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John C Dvorak: Well now turns
out to be a complete hoax. Adam
curry Jhansi Dvorak
Adam Curry: 21st 2023 This Year
Award Winning Combination media
assassination episode 1592. This
is no agenda, hitting the magic
number on the nose and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in fingerings. Number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's
rooting for a time of Fuji. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Let me guess a time
of Fuji is a sumo wrestler.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. He's
leading this September
tournament. Oh, oh, 1233 matches
to go. I think
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so excited
for you. For you to be
John C Dvorak: more excited for
him. He's like it. This is an up
and comer. He's like 21 young
kid, as far as like a second big
match ever. He's like six to 400
pounds. Good. Good. He's really
good at it sounds like a winner.
This kid. I think he's going to
be a yakka Zuna
Adam Curry: Yokozuna? Well,
while we await his yuccas unis,
it finally happened. We finally
hit the magic number.
Unknown: While the clock is
ticking on House Speaker Kevin
McCarthy, the Republican leader
is in a race against the clock
to find a deal to avoid another
government shutdown all of this
as a new report claims.
America's national debt has
topped $33 trillion.
Adam Curry: Didn't we just hit
31 trillion like two months ago?
Or am I am I mistaken? 33
John C Dvorak: was the number
two months ago they because I
remember bringing this up once
before.
Adam Curry: I thought it was 32
because it went from 31. And
they
John C Dvorak: like Do you tend
to go from it tends to move
around lower numbers to higher
numbers. There's never gone the
other way? Well, no, they're
gonna go to 34. Then back to 33.
Here it is.
Adam Curry: New York Times New
York Times says it September 18.
US national debt tops 33
trillion for the first time. So
if it's the New York Times, it
must be true. Yeah, has to be
trust to be true. Man. There's
so many people acting today. Or
this past week, everyone acting
out on the stage everyone great
actors, from our Ukrainian
friend to oh man, we had so
many, so many congress people
doing I mean, it was like it was
beautiful show C span was the
place to be who cares about a
writer's strike. There was so
much beautiful acting going on.
I loved it. All kinds of
distractions. Phenomenal stuff.
John C Dvorak: Solinsky ever
show up in Ukraine anymore. As
Adam Curry: I lay you know,
we've got to talk about his
outfit had
John C Dvorak: in hand floating
around. Now he's with the two I
guess today or yesterday with
the US Senate all the whole
Senate. And he's, you know, no
today. It's today. And then you
know, feta means out there.
They've made an exception so he
could go and run the Senate with
in shorts. You know, and he said
that he will wear a suit if the
Republicans get on board with
the war in Ukraine. So you know,
that must be very serious.
Fetterman
Adam Curry: is what I mean this
all this acting going on. But
let's talk about this Alinsky
outfit, because I watched him at
the United Nations, man. What a
bunch of Jamocha that is over
there. Oh man, warmongers.
Climate change where boy when
John C Dvorak: we get there what
whoever they are, they're all
excellency. Yes. And how does
that word, His Excellency Joe
Biden. What is His Excellency
bullcrap. He called everybody
who comes up to speak His
Excellency,
Adam Curry: I'm gonna call you
we should call each other said
your excellence. I was worried
about
John C Dvorak: it calling you.
His Excellency Adam curry.
Adam Curry: Yes, His Excellency,
His Excellency, the Honorable
John Charles Dvorak. The floor
is yours, Your Excellency. Now I
think it's today. Today he comes
by CBS had a report.
Unknown: Ukraine's president is
said to visit Washington today
asking for more help in the
fight against Russia with a
government shutdown looming. It
could be a tough sell. Tufts
gang has the latest from the
White House. We check Good
morning.
Adam Curry: I love that at least
they're admitting it's a sales
job and he just for a second.
Everybody is in suit and tie and
everyone's you know, got their
got their guard Bond got their
flowing gowns and the whole
thing to African delegation.
They've got their their hats,
people got the turbans everyone
is decked out and Solinsky comes
in this olive drab, short sleeve
shirt. With with military dudes
all around him, Can we stop with
with this with? Can we get some
new wardrobe in here to costume?
It is a total costume. He's an
actor. It's a costume.
Unknown: Good morning to you and
Marie and good morning to
everybody, President Biden, and
Solinsky. As you know, we're
just at the United Nations
making their plea to more than
140. World leaders but
Adam Curry: your absolute
excellencies Say It Right Lady,
the right
Unknown: today could be even
tougher because some Republicans
have already come out to say
that they are not prepared to
support Ukraine further that
they believe it is time for the
US to stop shelling out cash.
President Biden has asked for
another $24 billion. Yeah, 24
John C Dvorak: billion, 4
billion. But fiction, some
potholes,
Adam Curry: but this is part
this is all part of the script
to get everybody all
concentrated on this. Oh, you'd
like you. How about fixing some
potholes or in
Unknown: military aid that's on
top of the $113 billion that the
EU has has already spent now.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has
said that he thinks this should
be a standalone debate because
as of right now it is weaved
into that government shutdown
money that you are referring to,
which is called a CR continuing
resolution to keep the
government funded after the end
of this month because the money
is running out. And so right
now, you know whether there are
enough votes in the House is the
big question. We do know that
Democrats and even Senate
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell
have been very vocal about
continuing the aid for Ukraine
as well as most other Senate
Republicans. But if you don't
have the numbers, you don't have
the numbers. Of course, it will
be very different to have
Zielinski making that plea in
person.
Adam Curry: You mean His
Excellency Zelinsky making? Why
will that be any different other
than Oh, look, the actors come
to our theater. It's all so lame
and and social media is just
pumped full with everybody's got
an opinion of Rand Paul,
although I agree with him. We
can have this we can our
American cities are falling
apart. And then Lindsey Graham's
out there like, well, if we stop
there, we don't find Ukraine,
then there'll be more wars
everywhere.
John C Dvorak: We're almost
broken to Lindsey Graham sound
Adam Curry: getting close. I
think he might be again, there
might be in this.
Unknown: Ukraine to be carved
up. Carved. Carved.
Adam Curry: This is a new one.
What would it mean carved up?
Hold on a second. Who's ever
talked about being carved up?
Does that mean?
John C Dvorak: Well, is it
around as in a newsletter has
been floating around that Poland
once the the western part? Yes.
Adam Curry: And Poland is like,
Hey, we're not gonna we're not
gonna give any more weapons to
Ukraine. We're not accepting any
grain. Why did you go pound
sand? Ukraine. That's what Yep,
you know, Poland, carving up the
West Russia carving up the east
and Biden saying it onstage
Unknown: is the independence of
any nation. The United States,
together with our allies and
partners around the world,
continue to stand with the brave
people Ukraine, as they defend
our sovereignty and territorial
integrity, their freedom,
John C Dvorak: territorial
Tegrity integrity, territorial
Adam Curry: integrity.
Unknown: So one of the things I
found interesting about that
speech, Regis
Adam Curry: was that he was
completely incoherent and
stumbling and bumbling that was
they gonna say that there's
Unknown: one of the things I
found interesting about that
speech. Weijia is I felt like he
was echoing the mess, the most
recent messaging that we've been
hearing from Vladimir Zelensky,
which is essentially it Ukraine
falls?
Adam Curry: Well, gee, what a
coincidence. Our president is
essentially echoing what the
actor from Ukraine says, I
wonder why
Unknown: Russia is not going to
stop there. If you don't want to
get involved in this conflict.
Trust me, if Ukraine goes away.
It'll be World War Three, you
will be involved. There are a
lot of lawmakers that are a
little concerned about the
amount of spending whether or
not this is good money thrown
after bad whether this war can
be won by Ukraine. What do
Zelinsky and President Biden
need to do to convince
Philippine lawmakers to vote in
favor of more aid?
Adam Curry: Good question, what
do they have to do? Put on a
little play?
Unknown: And Ray, I think it is
going to be tough. So perhaps
Congress won't approve that big
$24 billion dollar figure. It's
also hard to imagine that
proving anything, right? Because
there are some Republicans who
are saying, Look, if we turn our
backs on Ukraine now, why would
any country trust us in the
future? So it's not only about
the ongoing war, but it's about
America's standing standing with
the rest of the world
John C Dvorak: is going to trust
us what that will be suckers to
be soaked for billions.
Adam Curry: Like we're so
trustworthy to start with
Unknown: going war, but it's
about America's Standing with
the rainbow world.
Americans report overwhelmingly
American voters still support
Ukraine and that's something I'm
sure all the politics as well
really
Adam Curry: isn't just thank you
is that overwhelmingly so I
don't think so. Miss CBS lady,
but CBS, it's all set up because
just now support is waning. They
have somehow believe that they
can use that actor in this
director's movie, because Sean
Penn appears on CBS to talk
about, you know, he just
happened to be doing a
documentary on this incredibly
interesting actor. And then all
of a sudden Russia invaded, what
are the chances? He's like, like
that just drops right in your
lap and Sean Penn? Well, there's
no one better to bring the
message of hope for Slava,
Ukraine, then Sean Penn and
Unknown: one of the clips, Andre
Yermak, one of the top advisors
to President Solinsky says to
you, the US position should be
stronger if the United States
and Joe Biden doesn't do
something now, essentially, he
says America is over. That
follows
Adam Curry: pretty well. Oh,
yeah. No, if you say it's, yeah,
if America doesn't help, America
is over. We're over. We're over.
That's what that's what's
happening. We're no good. We're
just we're at home,
Unknown: the United States and
Joe Biden doesn't do something
now. Essentially, he says
America's over.
John C Dvorak: That's what was
it that said, that was one of
the clips,
Unknown: Andre Yermak, one of
the top advisors to presidents
and
Adam Curry: one of the top
advisors to Zelensky, you know,
one of the one of the shares
what he thinks, well, he has a
speaking role. Hello, he gets a
SAG card
John C Dvorak: does this show
Yes, it gets the minimum he gets
a SAG card minimum
Adam Curry: wage, he
Unknown: says to you, you know,
the US position should be
stronger if the United States
and Joe Biden doesn't do
something now, essentially, he
says America's over that
followed with a pretty robust,
John C Dvorak: we're never gonna
get sick of these guys berating
us. After all the money we've
given them, this is getting
ridiculous,
Adam Curry: hey, you're paying
for this play, you might as well
sit back and enjoy it
Unknown: by the United States
more than $50 billion purchase
of weapons. But by what I've
heard you say you think the
United States isn't doing
enough? Sean Penn
is my absolute feeling that
John C Dvorak: these opposed to
his feeling his spirit goal, a
caution with which
Unknown: the United States has
pledged support, which seemed,
in my reading of of the February
2020 22, was a lien on in the
fear of nuclear conflict.
Something I think all of us
should look very carefully at
and understand that, of course,
is possible. And that's to be
concerning.
Adam Curry: I have to be just
stop this for a second 59 years
on this planet. The amount of
times I've heard is what some if
you don't do x, then nuclear
war, why will happen? I've heard
this so many times. Never, never
has anything been bitten. The
only people who have dropped
bomb nukes has been us. But
since then nothing and this
weight and it's getting tiring.
It's the thing. It's like,
really, it's just it's just like
it's you find something new,
Shawn?
Unknown: The likelihood is
extremely low. Okay. Wow, our
witnesses in the film says, you
know, are we going to let a
gangster with nuclear weapons
dictate? The way we live?
Adam Curry: is talking about
Biden,
John C Dvorak: wait a minute,
isn't talking about Biden? Is he
talking about dictating the way
we live?
Adam Curry: Apparently, Putin
Unknown: so no, and that the
Ukrainians won't let him do
that.
John C Dvorak: So we have to
look at Ukrainians are
protecting us from Putin, and
Adam Curry: I'm so happy there.
That yes, they are the front
line, the front lines
John C Dvorak: stopping because
Putin would be dictating what we
do. Yes, yes. Don't
Adam Curry: you understand? Shut
up, yo.
John C Dvorak: So now hold on a
second. I wanted to harken back
to the Trump here I went, I was
at an event in the Berkeley
hills. And I was actually told
that Putin is running Trump.
Everybody in Berkeley felt this
way.
Adam Curry: Everyone knows
still. I would say if you ask
Nicole Wallace on MSNBC, she
would still say that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So and so
this is not an unexpected
thought. But it's ludicrous.
It's ludicrous. I call out this
one person at this event. I
said, What are you telling me
that Putin is actually running
the country? And she said,
nobody's calling the shots.
Adam Curry: It's his playbook.
He's calling the shots. That's
right. That's right. And that's
why apparently, Biden is no he's
just to I don't know, I don't I
let's listen to the rest of Sean
Penn here live.
Unknown: So I think that and
that the Ukrainians won't
Adam Curry: let him do that.
Thank you, Ukraine, Slava. So we
Unknown: have to look at the
aligned aspiration of what we
are as people and as countries
and as governments, and see that
they are the embodiment of what
we aspire to. And we should have
had F sixteens. Air Defense long
range weapons, robustly in
position, long since by now,
Adam Curry: da, we have done
such a poor job of getting long
range weapons, it's just we have
not helped them at all. This is
horrible. And then the truth
comes out Sean Penn, there's
still an
Unknown: opportunity for us to
do the right thing and whether
it's Republican or Democrat,
whether it's President Biden's
administration or not.
Personally, I think that there's
not only a principal when in two
escalating this escalating our
help of that my name. Oh,
Adam Curry: I missed. Okay, I'm
listening again. Here.
John C Dvorak: I should have
stumbled Yeah,
Unknown: for us to do the right
thing. And whether it's
Republican or Democrat, whether
it's President Biden's
administration or not.
Personally, I think that there's
not only a principal when in in
to escalating this escalating
our help of that might
Adam Curry: escalate it, we got
to escalate this. That's what he
said. I think it's a principle
we got to escalate this best,
right? We've got a bomb Moscow
bhamashah. Yes. This is the
watch that one
Unknown: of the people you
interviewed this last clip
central bank had said to you,
World War Three has begun and
Ukraine is the frontline. So
people will look at that and say
that that's just hyperbole. You
seem to really believe that. I
don't know more at
Adam Curry: what I don't know is
which central bank had said
that. So in this film, which I
have not seen, a central bank
head said World War Three has
already begun. But I don't know
who it was.
Unknown: You seem to really
believe that that there is more
at stake in this conflict than
just the territory in eastern
Europe.
Yeah, I don't know that I would
use the same words. He by the
way is one of the more
impressive people I've ever met
and I you know, don't just
Adam Curry: do you think it was
Powell could have been Powell
John C Dvorak: I would have said
fed you know, would definitely
never be proud to be
Adam Curry: the European Central
Bank. Because that's that's no
that's Fifi Lagarde so couldn't
be in the European Central Bank
because it was a he was it the
Ukrainian central bank that ever
central bank
Unknown: probably depends on
what it means.
Adam Curry: Very impressive guy.
Now I'm jumping out of this. I
want to screw this guy. He's
tiring. But let's go to NBC and
listen to Andrea Mitchell
because she really had a great
rapport. I think this includes
our friend, Lindy Hop,
Unknown: we have to stand up to
this naked aggression today. And
deter other would be aggressors
tomorrow.
In an impassioned speech,
President Biden
Adam Curry: are impassioned
speech. Why can't they can't
even tell the truth about that?
I mean, I saw the speech you saw
the speech, there was fumbling
bumbling blank was a
disappointment.
John C Dvorak: I was hoping for
it to go off the rails. They
didn't know me. Yeah, they
Adam Curry: didn't check him off
the
John C Dvorak: tour other would
be not enough.
Adam Curry: She shows an
impassioned instead of
incoherent Is that what you
meant?
Unknown: Tomorrow? In an
impassioned speech, President
Biden urged world leaders to
stay united behind Ukraine.
Warning of dire consequences if
Russia's aggression goes
unchecked.
We abandon the core principles
of United States to appease an
aggressor. Can any member state
in this body feel confident that
they're protected
with growing calls in the US and
abroad to withhold
Adam Curry: that's the best
soundbite they could get. Hey,
man, this body,
John C Dvorak: I got no sound
bites.
Unknown: Can any member state in
this body feel confident that
they're protected?
With growing calls in the US and
abroad to withhold additional
aid to Ukraine, Ukraine's
President Volodymyr Zelensky,
appearing in person this year to
warn other leaders Russia can
target them next.
The goal of the present war
against Ukraine is to tour our
lands, our people our lives, our
resources into a weapon against
you. Again the international
rules based order
today at the UN Security Council
Solinsky will present his peace
plan calling for a full Russian
withdrawal and payment of
reparations to rebuild his
devastated country. Tomorrow
Zelinsky will travel to
Washington to meet with
President Biden at the White
House and plead with Congress to
continue his military support.
But Republicans are deeply
divided over the Biden
administration's request for an
additional $24 billion for
Ukraine. Where's the
accountability on the money
we've already spent? What is the
plan for victory
but that consequences of pulling
the plug on Ukraine are
enormous. It will lead to more
war not less
Adam Curry: where it is. We can
pull the plug now. It'll lead to
more war not less. That logic is
interesting as your logic that's
your logic. And now it turns
out, you know, the Khan Khan
from Pakistan. We didn't really
cover much of it, because but
conga kicked
John C Dvorak: out well, it
wasn't because
Adam Curry: I know we had
something else to do. But Khan
got kicked out. And now it turns
out the reason it now was the
Prime Minister Khan was that his
title, excuse me was His
Excellency Khan got kicked out
because he wasn't on board was
making cheap ammo for Ukraine,
in Pakistan at our at our
behest. At least that is,
according to these clips, we're
joined
Unknown: now by Ryan.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, he was
gonna make. Okay. So we were we
can't seem to make our own ammo
anymore. Is that Is that what
we're finally concluding here?
The real takeaway from this, all
these reports?
Adam Curry: Well, so here's the
worst part. So we're seeing when
we spend billions of dollars for
the war in Ukraine, Slava
Ukraine. It's supposed to go to
our guys. That's supposed to go
to Pakistan. So I don't know
what happened there.
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN flippin
bound. We're joined now by Ryan
Grim the intercepts Washington
bureau chief, his latest piece
co written with Murtaza Hussein
is headlined us
John C Dvorak: second. This has
stopped for a second and realize
that the intercept which is an
online has a Washington bureau
chief, of course, as if they
have like, you know, a ton of
people and why do they use a
bureau and is the chief of the
Bureau and he's assigning this
and that to different, please.
Adam Curry: And supposedly they
got gobs and gobs of money which
I'm sure
John C Dvorak: comes where they
might have gobs of money, but
they don't have a Washington
bureau chief. That's whatever.
Okay,
Adam Curry: well, we have a
Washington bureau chief, His
Excellency John C. Dvorak, the
Washington bureau chief for the
no agenda show might as well be
Unknown: is headlined us help
Pakistan get IMF bailout with
secret arms deal for Ukraine
leaked documents show so
elaborate on this Ryan Grim talk
about the significance of the
arms deal, and Pakistan's
changing position on the Ukraine
war. In fact, it happened to be
that Imran Khan was visiting
with Russia, President Putin the
day Russia invaded Ukraine.
Absolutely, absolutely. If you
Adam Curry: want a name like
Ryan Grim, he's a spook come.
invaded Ukraine.
Unknown: Absolutely. Fury ated.
Washington. Several weeks later,
is when you had that critical
meeting where Assistant
Secretary Lew conveyed
Washington's impression, which
was that Khan stays in power,
Pakistan will be isolated from
the EU and from the United
States. But if Khan is pushed
out of power, then all will be
forgiven. Because as Lou put it,
Washington understood that Imran
Khan's policy was his own policy
and no policy. In other words,
that if somebody knew were put
in place, the hope was that
Pakistan would then become a key
ally again, of the United States
in in its geopolitical struggle,
generally, but very specifically
with with Ukraine, and Russia.
Adam Curry: Aha, now wait a
minute, isn't isn't Pakistan all
in with China, just to just to
make it even more complicated or
that war
John C Dvorak: is traditionally
traditionally ignoring China?
Pakistan was our buddy. Yeah.
And India was Russia's buddy,
Adam Curry: right. We used to
have a tennis racket made in
Pakistan
John C Dvorak: and Pakistan
would buy our jets and India
would buy the Russian
Adam Curry: jets Yeah. And
they'd fight over Kashmir
John C Dvorak: over one thing or
another Kashmir being just
Kashmir just fight they would
fight fight amongst themselves.
And in the irony, of course, is
that there's just irony
everywhere with this
arrangement. And now we're
trying to buddy up to India and
Modi doesn't like this and that.
And now there's some some
craziness going on. There are
some clips I get later. This is
continue with this. The second
part of this,
Unknown: since Khan was has was
removed from power what has been
Pakistan's position on the war
in Ukraine?
We're all interestingly, the
foreign office yesterday in
response to our story, flat out
denied that they're providing
any weapons for the for the war
in Ukraine. Nope. Nobody
believes that. We're not we're
not the first to kind of report
on this. We're the first to
confirm it with documents but
there has been There have been
there's been plenty of video and
photographic evidence of
munitions made in in Pakistan
that are being used who video in
in the Ukraine war and the fact
that they're operating this, you
know, multi 100 million dollar.
It's over a billion by now
because our our data stopped
last summer. The production of
the munitions war effort makes
it makes it clear that after
Kahn was removed, Pakistan
became a reliable ally of the
United States in this war. All
right.
Adam Curry: So here's the spook
reporting on how a whole bunch
of other spooks kick Cohn out.
Yeah, you're not you're not
John C Dvorak: that's a Yeah,
railroaded out.
Adam Curry: This is what we call
democracy.
Unknown: Pakistani democracy may
ultimately be a casualty of
Ukraine's counter offensive. So
why would the US and its allies
go to such lengths for
Pakistan's allegiance to on
Ukraine? Oh,
Adam Curry: what do you think,
John? What could it be? Why
would Pakistan go through all
those links? Because they're
supposed to be our buddy, right?
You just said it, then you do
you want our jets Pakistan? Then
you gotta make some bullets? I
think,
Unknown: yep. When the United
States has a primary foreign
policy objective, and in
particular, when it's a war,
everything else falls away. And
that's what you're seeing in
Pakistan now. And for Pakistan
is the irony is clearly not lost
that the United States and is
bringing together and of the the
the world to stand up for the
defense of democracy and
sovereignty in Ukraine, while
you know, quite deliberately and
openly sacrificing democracy in
a country of 230 million people
in in Pakistan,
Adam Curry: man, Mr. Grim, no
one buys it anymore. No one buys
it. No one cares. People want
their potholes fixed. I do.
Yeah. Yeah. You got anything
else on Ukraine?
John C Dvorak: I just have the
NTD report on Zelinsky. It's
just kind of a wrap. No, that's
worth.
Unknown: This is in D. D.
Turning now to the war in
Ukraine. Speaking before the UN
Security Council today Ukrainian
president flooded the lottery
Solinsky urged the organization
this trip rod
Adam Curry: would just say is
the Lansky you don't have to go
all out and say Kyiv and
Volodymyr Iranian
Unknown: President flooded man
with a lot of means linski the
organization or
Adam Curry: she's the homegrown
honey, I screwed up I feel bad
and say right. Now when I see
him, I'm going to shake his hand
he'll be like, Oh, you had a
lady mispronounce my name. Oh,
it's so cute.
Unknown: Um, so today, Ukrainian
president flooded man with a lot
of news. He urged the
organization to strip Russia of
its veto power.
Therefore, the UN General
Assembly should be given a real
power to overcome the veto. This
will be the first necessary
step. It is impossible to stop
the war because all efforts are
vetoed by the aggressor.
Solinsky added that he won't
accept any peace deal unless it
requires Russia's complete
withdrawal from Ukrainian
territory. He went on to accuse
the UN of a willingness to quote
compromise with killers. Russian
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
was not present for Zelinsky
speech and Solinsky left the
meeting before Lavrov spoke
later. The Ukrainian president
is slated to be on Capitol Hill
tomorrow morning, he will be
meeting with the entire Senate.
Adam Curry: I hope someone
stands up and just says hey, you
second rate actor go away. I
mean, it's just all gonna be
this pandering. Thank you. Your
Excellency, thank you for making
the dangerous trip here. From
from the UN building. Now, it's
where you wish and meanwhile, I
don't know about the rest of the
world but the United States of
America was caught in the
biggest distraction.
Pay no attention anything but
this people.
Unknown: It took nearly 28 hours
to find it. But crews finally
started picking up the pieces
from the crash of one of his
country's most sophisticated jet
fighters. Boom. I mean, it's
scary to think that something
landed that close our house, the
pilot of the marine F 35.
injected Sunday afternoon, just
a mile from the Charleston
airport. But the plane went
missing, forcing the military to
tweet out an appeal for any
information on its whereabouts.
How does it just disappear? And
how does the Pentagon ask for
the public's help in finding it?
It's just a huge embarrassment.
The plane was one of two f 35
flying at 1000 feet as they came
into land when something went
wrong. The pilot who objected
had already been discharged from
the hospital. By the time the
$100 million plane was found 60
miles away yourself. David Burke
is a former F 35 pilot who once
commanded the same unit, it
doesn't surprise you that a
plane could have an emergency
serious enough for the pilot to
eject and still be able to fly
another 60 miles. It's a
pretty rare event. But as
uncommon as it might be, it's a
plausible thing. Even at 1000
feet, that's the nose was
pitched up or moving up, the jet
will fly for many miles.
The F 35 is a stealth jet. Hard
to track, especially because
it's transponder was on to
standard procedure in a two
plane formation.
So it's very common in any way
for the wingman to secure
meaning to turn off their
transponder.
Adam Curry: All right, so let's
just first of all we have we
have our own F Navy pilots. Then
they all they all emailed me
saying oh my god, first of all,
they email me all the funniest
memes the F 35 on the milk
carton. knows all of that. Here
it is the pilot gonna
John C Dvorak: use that one.
What's that? So they could use
that water for the newsletter?
It
Adam Curry: was actually it
wasn't that good. There were a
couple of them and there were
some very funny ones. I liked
the one where it's for sale on
eBay. You know, some of that is
good. And obviously the
communications within our armed
forces are just no good so the
fact that they put this out on
social media if you're just
looking for but it was a good
distraction so most people that
I saw it was hacked it was a
hack China hack to China hack
trying to hack the God just
because you're trying to have
the jet and then the funniest
that's a good one that was
another good one on telegrams
like they found the pilots
wallet, which means he didn't
really eject you landed it there
and then the Chinese took it.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, I did
see the wallet while I was a
high roller.
Adam Curry: Here's the general
take pilot had an emergency when
he slashy as possible step
through the emergency procedures
that led the pilot to ejection
as the only solution in the
emergency procedures matrix.
Maybe we should not have bought
an expensive single engine
fighter jet. If the autopilot
was on at the time of ejection
is very feasible. The aircraft
continued on until out of gas or
upset by something else perhaps
flying into a thunderstorm. Our
F pilots say it's more likely
that the single engine flamed
out could have been out of gas
could have just flipped
flameouts happen and the pilot
was too low couldn't restart it
punched out and these things
happen you know these things
happen but it became such a Oh
such a conspiracy and now
accentuated by I think the best
Central Casting did a great job.
Did you see the F 35 crash
witness
John C Dvorak: oh the black guy
Adam Curry: oh this guy is the
best
Unknown: and bad don't take it
taking a shave. And I heard a
speech and saw that between a
speech and a whistle
this house your bike says he
didn't realize it was a plane at
the time so we didn't call
anybody
enemy as much what's in the
meter right come out of space or
something. And as they well
they're playing it needs to be
reported but the thing flying is
too low.
Adam Curry: is too low.
Unknown: Helicopters walk jobs
keep flying around so it was
something somebody must have
robbed the bank or killed some
people. I walked up there. It
told me was
the plan. Do you have 35 B
airplane wreckage created an
extensive debris field the
wreckage is located off Old
Georgetown Road military
security is very tight with
numerous red and white signs on
the side of the road that read
No Trespassing this area has
been designated a national
defense area
to the grace of God nobody get
hurt because the church right up
there about a half mile
about a mile of Old Georgetown
Road will be closed for an
unknown period of time
anything man making malfunction
again the benefit of doubt but
it needs to be investigated and
the public need to know what
really happened
Adam Curry: to us right public
needs to know what really
happened by the way that scream
he did I mean that was that's
just it's so good scream that's
what let's let's compare
man goes good night guys. Good.
John C Dvorak: Country. South
Carolina backwoods.
Adam Curry: I love this guy. I
love him. He needs to he needs
people Drogon Rogan needs to get
that guy on the Rogen. I'm gonna
tell Joe you need that guy on
the show. For sure. You know the
F 35 has had problems and yes
single engine flame out at a
1000 feet, you got a problem?
And then the question is, how
far did it go? I mean, we don't
know anything.
John C Dvorak: But boy oh, no
anything. Oh, I
Adam Curry: did it was everybody
obsessed with it? Not quite as
obsessed with the National
alert, which should be taking
place on October 4, I think
another on October 11. And we
had this during President
Obama's time when he was going
to fire off the alert. Remember
that? No. Oh, come on. It was
gonna be the everyone's cell
phone. All the television
station
John C Dvorak: only vaguely
remembered because of my
nothing. My house went off.
Adam Curry: Well, no, in fact, I
recall that we were laughing
that half of it didn't work at
all. But it was oh, hold Obama.
Yeah. Oh, and this is Ed, he's
in there taken over our phones.
Well, there's a new one. And
this, this was blanketing X.
There were there were entire
text groups going around saying
make sure whatever you do, keep
your phone off that you should
unplug your computer, unplug
your television because that's
going to be bad thing
Unknown: a warning going around
that on October 4, and if it
doesn't happen on October 4,
it's going to be on October 11.
At 222. Eastern the emergency
broadcasting system under FEMA
is going to be activated and the
you know this is like the high
pitch be saying this is only a
test it's not a test. It's going
to be sending these high
frequency signals into cell
phones, radios TVs, the
intention of activating
nanoparticles including graphene
oxide, what does graphene oxide
and do to the human body? Well
it induces cell toxicity through
plasma membrane damage
generation of reactive oxygen
species and DNA damage. Damage
any concentration above 20
micrograms per millimeter for 24
hours is considered toxic. Hold
up because this sounds like the
movie the cell Israel is not
happy about this and supposedly
they're doing some things to
stop it and maybe it will stop
there but it's going to happen
in the United States.
Adam Curry: Calm down ladies.
Calm down. People were seriously
freaking out about this. Oh no,
it's going to activate the
nanoparticles. If you had the
Vax, you're gonna die because
the graphene oxide will
immediately create toxicity in
your body and you'll fall over
dead this is what they're doing
this is it I just feel
John C Dvorak: comes up with
this stuff that you have to
assume this is not who'd come up
with that it just doesn't make
any sense.
Adam Curry: Well, I think you
know what it is we've got a dog
bar yeah this Yeah, she there's
someone at the door. We've
gotten to the point where
through media and M five M and
alternative media Phoebe. People
just don't trust their
government. And when when people
lose trust in the government
then everything kind of goes out
the door. But I mean like real
real loss of trust. And and
what's the blahs anus about it
like Phoebe? Phoebe Come, come
here. Just nanoparticles.
John C Dvorak: Maybe Phoebe's
got a clue could be
Adam Curry: she's like, Daddy
Daddy nanoparticles are
activated. So this just there is
a loss of trust in government,
which was actually now man I'm
gonna have to play a clip so I
can go deal with her.
John C Dvorak: It's just
triggered by lies. Well, yes, of
government Lies don't help.
Adam Curry: But when but that
Yeah, right. That's one thing
but then when we get to the
complete loss of trust, then
people don't. I went to the city
council meeting here. And yeah,
we actually we actually got
something done no tax increase.
Good move, but the the the
distrust and the disdain to our
mayor's a musician, you know,
just a dude. And you know, but
okay, he's the mayor. And you
can just see the hatred. People
hate like, This is bad. This is
no good. I can see what they're
doing. They're putting onto the
play, which of course most of
the time is true. In nowhere was
this more evident than the
grilling of garland. This is
another TV miniseries that
played out in in this was
Congress. And I have three clips
that are just dynamite. But all
by actors I have never really
seen. These are as far as I'm
concerned. These are the
newcomers. Again, we don't do
sag AFTRA writers we don't need
you. This is the play right
here. We start off with
Representative van Drew, who is
a Republican from the New
Jersey. He used to be a Democrat
which I did not know. And he
brings up the Catholic
traditional Catholic extremists
memo
John C Dvorak: is a decent clip.
And garland freaks out
Adam Curry: so that so this is a
memo from January 23. From the
FBI field office in Richmond,
Virginia titled interest of
racially or ethnically motivated
violent extremists in radical
traditionalist Catholic
ideology, almost certainly
present new mitigation
opportunities. FBI enrichment
assesses the increasingly
observed interest of racially
and ethnically motivated violent
extremists RMDs in racial
traditionalist Catholic
ideology, for a wave of
opportunities for threat
mitigation to the exploration of
new avenues for tripwire, and
source development. In other
words, the FBI was sending
undercover agents into churches
to root out these violent
extremists.
Unknown: The actions of the DOJ
are on you the decline of
Americans trust in our federal
law enforcement is on you or the
pilot, political weaponization
of the DOJ is on you, the
Attorney General I need a simple
yes or no to the following just
yes or no, because we don't have
much time. Do you agree that
traditional Catholics are
violent extremists? Yes or no?
Let me answer what you've said
in that long list. I'll be happy
to answer all of those
attorneys. I control the time
I'm going to ask you to answer a
controlled time by asking me a
substantial number of things. I
didn't ask you those things.
Attorney General
John C Dvorak: hold on so this
has got to end why these idiots
both Democrats and Republicans
do this job yes and no yes and
no, they make a big point of it.
And the guy never answers yes
and no and he's and the time
he's trying to save is wasted.
But the back and forth that's
now begins with sunlight you can
answer yes or no? What you have
to answer yes or no. And it goes
this is the most ludicrous it's
worse than like it's not even
good writing. I have to say
Adam Curry: writers writers
writer room
John C Dvorak: because this is
you know, answer yes or no. I'm
trying to make time my I only
have tried so much time and the
time is wasted. bitching about
your time and the yes and no and
the rest of it? I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: Were you confused
with this being something that
is that is a real question and
answer session. No, this is a
script this is a script to
communicate something to the
American people and this I don't
know
John C Dvorak: what to try to
communicate with this I have yes
go they continue with this. This
is what actually one of the
better exchanges because garland
gets all bent out of shape about
it. If I'm not mistaken if
Adam Curry: there's there's a
number of well
Unknown: Stansell a number of
things and when I didn't ask you
those things. Attorney General
through the chair I asked you do
you agree that traditional
Catholics or violent extremists
have no idea what you're what
the traditional means here?
Adam Curry: I love that. He's
like got to think about
something that no one gave me
this grip How come I wasn't
where's my sides
Unknown: had no idea what you're
what the traditional means here.
Let me just go to church. Man. I
answered your question just idea
that someone with my family
background. Eric clarity
discriminate against any
religion is so outrageous, just
so absurd. As your attorney
general it was your FBI that did
this. It was your FBI that was
sending and we have the memos we
have the emails, we're sending
undercover agents into Catholic
churches. I am the director of
said have said that we were
appalled by that memo then you
agree that they're not extremely
we're appalled by that memo or
they are not Attorney General. I
think are they extremists or not
Attorney General in that memo is
with a extremist or not I'm
asking a simple question say no
if you think that was wrong
likes are not extremists. No.
Was anyone fired for drafting
circulate circulating the anti
Catholic memo you have in front
of you the inspection?
Divisions? Investigate tell me
yes or no please. I don't have
no time. I don't know the
answer.
Adam Curry: I don't know. Okay,
not to be outdone. We have the
new Best New Actress. Where has
she been all my life Victoria
spots from Indiana. And she
hooks right into the Attorney
General being you know, from
immigrant parents from Wesley
from Belarus or something.
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Thanks. So
Adam Curry: now this This
Congresswoman represents a
district in Indiana. And she is
she was born in Ukraine. And she
is a Ukrainian American. And she
has a dynamite look. I mean,
kudos on hair and makeup for for
what they did with her here. She
has the perfect accent. And and
of course, because of her
accent, she can take it all the
way to you know, we're living
under a Stasi regime.
Unknown: Are you aware that a
lot of Americans are now afraid
or be prosecuted by your
department? Are you aware about
that? Are you aware of that? I'm
just saying, are you aware or
not? By the way, she
Adam Curry: has the same script?
Don't let him answer. Just Just
keep buffalo going all the way
through.
Unknown: I think fed constant
attacks on the department and
saying it's not
as high. So let me let me give
you an exam. I don't know what
about January 6 People are here.
Some people came on January 6,
there probably are some people
that came in January 6 Here, you
know, that had bad intent. But a
lot of good Americans from my
district came here because there
are sick and tired of this
government not serving them.
They came with strollers and the
kids come with strollers and the
kids. And there was chaotic
situation because of this.
Adam Curry: This is good
writing. There was chaotic
situation. This is perfect.
Because you've already
forgotten. She's Ukrainian.
You're already like she's
Russian. I mean, it's good.
Unknown: Not serving them. They
came with strollers and the
kids. And there was chaotic
situation because the proper
security wasn't provided. That's
a question that was answered
really why? Why we debated for
45 minutes on the floor. And the
debate after the people broken
into the Capitol. But these
people came they were throwing
their smoke bombs into the crowd
withdrawal is good. People were
showed up, you know, FBI agent
to people's houses. Do you have
in my district in my town? FBI,
phone numbers all over the
district police school call that
people are truly afraid. I just
want to make sure if you're not
there, where is it? You are? And
this is a big problem. And
people are afraid of their own
government. And I'll show you
some other things. We're talking
about justice system. I don't
question you probably not a bad
person. I don't know you. But
Well, I'll tell you, you're in
charge of the department. And
people right now feel you I look
at Durham report and that cold
on the face of violations of
clearance of millions of
Americans, right. It's like KGB,
but then I read reports.
Adam Curry: You It's like KGB
does come on. She's good. She's
doing her job. This is this. And
what she's doing here is exactly
what Magga country wants to
hear. But it's making people
more afraid of their government.
But she is highlighting this
Justice Department, which seems
to be quite a mess. Quite a
mess. I like when she brings in
the KGB. But then the final one.
John C Dvorak: Well, I've got a
couple two.
Adam Curry: You want to play
some now? And then we can do?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's play.
I want to get where they're
more. My favorite one is this
one. This is garland stone
walls. And it's because of his
usages I find fascinating.
Unknown: Now in that video, that
was your answer to a question to
me two years ago, when I said
how many agents or assets of the
government were present on
January 5 and January 6, and
agitating in the crowd to go
into the Capitol? And how many
went into the Capitol? Can you
answer that? Now? I don't know
the answer to that question. It
was last time. You don't know
how many there were or there
were none.
I don't know the answer to
either of those questions. If
there were any. I don't know how
many. You know whether there are
any.
I think you've made it just
perjured yourself that you don't
know that there were any. You
want to say that again. Did you
don't know that
there were no personal
knowledge of this matter. I
think what I said the last time
you've had two
years to find out. And today, by
the way that was in reference to
Ray Epps and yesterday you
indicted him. Isn't that a
wonderful coincidence on a
misdemeanor? Meanwhile, you're
seeing the grandmas to prison.
Adam Curry: Grandmas in prison?
Yeah, yes.
John C Dvorak: I have a sub clip
of a of a garland piece but I
can't fish see where the garland
pieces. I have cash. Cash.
Patel, Kash Patel was on NTD and
he's one of the best spokes
persons for I don't know who he
represents actually. He's a x.
Adam Curry: William Marguerite
William Morris Agency, I think.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, he's really
good. I've always enjoyed he is
playing these clips. This is a
couple of his cash Patel and
going over garlin and all, the
fact that he's Getting his tip
in the ringer. And he has some
nice nice points to make
Unknown: before we get a clip.
Garland is firing back at
congressional Republicans saying
in his opening statements today,
quote, I am not the president's
lawyer adding I am not
Congress's prosecutor. What's
your reaction to his statement
here?
No, he's just President Biden's
bagman. I mean, he can say that
he's not Hunter Biden's lawyer
Joe Biden's lawyer and he can
say he's not Congress's lawyer.
Those are fake news headlines
that CNN and the Washington Post
will grab and say look at this,
a political administer of
justice. But what you have to do
is look at his testimony coming
out today, where he continues to
lie and Stonewall Congress, he
has six congressional subpoenas
for documents that he still has
not provided to Congress. He's
in violation of those which is a
felony contempt of Congress.
He's never going to prosecute
himself for that. And how about
the disinformation he continues
to give Congress on whether or
not people interfered with the
investigation into Hunter Biden,
and whether he participated in
it? He just refuses to answer
these questions as if he if he,
the Attorney General himself is
above the law. He's been charged
to administer
Adam Curry: from an intellectual
standpoint. Yes, Kash Patel was
good, but people to people in
America, it takes him so long to
catch on to stuff it takes years
and years and years for people
to finally go, Hey, wait a
minute. Something's up here.
Something's not right. Like that
guy who saw the F 35. He's like,
we deserve to know what's going
on. It takes a long time. And
Kashmir takes
John C Dvorak: forever isn't
I've been doing the show for 15
years. And we move maybe five
people.
Adam Curry: That many
John C Dvorak: years, Kash Patel
finishing up, I don't have the
more clips he went on for a
while. And I will say that he
really made a good point that if
the Congress cared, they would
they would throw the book at
garland for not producing the
documents or even answering
questions and they could they
have their own ability to do
contempt of Congress, and
actually jail people. And they
can also take their money away,
which apparently they've done in
the past, which is to say you
can't you were taking so much
money away from your agency if
you don't do this. And and
they're not doing any of it,
which says to me that this whole
thing is what you said at the
beginning. This is scripted on
both sides of bull crap
Unknown: and cash. On that note
when it comes to Hunter Biden
garland is saying he doesn't
recollect if he spoke to the FBI
during that time.
Adam Curry: Have you had
personal contact with anyone at
FBI Headquarters about the
Hunter Biden investigation?
Unknown: Know, I don't know. I
don't recollect the answer to
that question. But
is it possible that he wouldn't
be involved given? That's the
president's son? Look,
look, I get that there's a lot
of things the Attorney General
has going on and that come
across his desk. But when you
speak about the ongoing
investigation of the current
president united states, you can
have Joe Biden's memory and
you're going to remember that
one. And so I don't believe for
a second. He's not involved,
just like we found out that the
White House and Joe Biden lied
when they said they weren't
involved in the Trump
prosecution, the White House
Counsel's Office pursuant to the
direction of President Biden
relinquished executive
privilege. So the DOJ could
prosecute Donald Trump, only one
man in America can relinquish
that privilege, Joe Biden. And
so this theme of lying and
covering up whether you want to
call it unlawful activity or
corruption, the fact that the
Attorney General the United
States is totally weaponized to
me is the most dangerous thing
we can see in our system of
justice. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's too
intellectual.
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. But
But I want to play this sub clip
from that's where garland made
this very interesting little
remark. Garland sub clip from
that quote that was in that
little piece, listen to this.
Unknown: No real I don't know. I
don't recollect the answer to
that question, but
Adam Curry: I forgot my lines. I
don't recollect the answer to
that question.
John C Dvorak: So he's asked a
question. That's good. And he
says, I don't recollect the
answer.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, you
nailed it. That's exactly right.
Unknown: No, really? I don't
know. I don't recollect the
answer to that question.
Adam Curry: Because we had the
meeting. We had the table read.
I don't recollect I'm sorry. You
got me. I don't have the answer
to that. I don't recollect the
answer to that question. Yeah.
Now, they did bring out yet
another actor. I don't know.
He's from Texas. Troy. nehls.
Have you heard of this guy? And
eh, LS Troy nehls? Nope. How
many congressmen do we have?
John C Dvorak: Lots four, or
400.
Adam Curry: And, and they gave
him the monologue. They said
Troy. Troy. We like that little
little tuft of hair you got on
top your head is bald but he's
got this cool like little swirl
and when he looks down his pay
pretty light. Oh, it looks
John C Dvorak: terrible.
Adam Curry: And I said, Troy, we
want you to explain the whole
Burisma Joe Biden and bribery,
quid pro quo. Here's your
script. Whatever you do, don't
let garland say anything. Just
buffalo all the way through.
You'll be great. Thank you,
Unknown: Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Garland? What is a confidential
human source?
Well, that's an FBI term. I
don't know all that
technicality. But
let me define it for you. It's
in your own policy here. An
individual who is believed to be
providing useful and credible
information to the FBI from any
authorized information
collection activity, and from
Who What the FBI expects or
intends to obtain additional
useful and credible information
in the future.
Adam Curry: And by the way, pay
attention to Representative Nels
voices, his intonation, he used
his voice very effectively, a
very, very skilled actor. All
right,
Unknown: and whose identity
information or relationship with
the FBI warrants confidential
handling. So these guys are
individuals you pay him $42
million a year. Did you know
that that the the IG said you're
paying these sources 42 million
a year? Did you know that
I know, informants 42 million a
year. So
do you believe that you're
credible? They're valuable. The
FBI is using these guys. We're
paying them a lot of money.
Would you agree with that?
I agree. Some are more very
good. So there's
a lot of money. You got a lot of
them out there.
Adam Curry: So good. I mean,
this is a skit that is so well.
And kudos to garland by the way.
He totally got it. And all those
lawyers behind them. They're all
kind of snickering there the the
studio audience it was
beautiful.
Unknown: So let me paint the
picture for America, Hunter
Biden Jordans. Burisma in 2014.
Bernie paint the picture as my
very, very corrupt Ukrainian
energy company. He has no
experience in oil and gas. He
admits it, sir. I don't have any
experience. I know why I'm
there. I
Adam Curry: don't voices have a
John C Dvorak: dad doing it.
He's doing a show.
Adam Curry: Yes. He's doing a
whole bit.
Unknown: He has no experience in
oil and gas. He admits it, sir.
I
don't have any experience. I
know why I'm there. I have a
dad. I have with me a document
called the ft 1023. Have you
seen this? You're familiar with
it? Used by the FBI, everybody
in America teams by the FBI. It
is a confidential human source
reporting document dated June
2020. You're familiar with it.
In this document, the FBI is
confidential human source says
Burisma. Now the corrupt company
needed to keep Hunter on the
board. So everything would be
okay. And according to the human
source, they hired Hunter Biden
to quote protect us through his
dad for all kinds of problems.
Mr. Gardaland does that concern
you? Okay, it should I got
limited time. Remember, your
sources are credible.
Adam Curry: He even waits he
even leaves the pause for
garland to open his mouth to
Buffalo over him. It's great
clip coming clip coming
Unknown: at you and I got
limited time. Remember, your
sources are credible,
trustworthy, honest, and
valuable. Are you familiar with
Victor Shokin? The document that
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I
got three minutes left. You want
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor
Shokin. Who is?
Adam Curry: I don't know to hit
doesn't know who Victor Shokin.
Is? This is the best part. I
don't know Victor Shokin. I've
never heard this name. I don't
read newspapers. I never
listened to podcasts. I've never
heard. There was TV Shokin. TV
was TV,
Unknown: the document that
it was Mr. Victor Shokin. So I
got three minutes left. You want
me to answer that? Yeah. Victor
Shokin. Who is I don't know to
prosecute. Oh, folks, he's the
prosecutor. That was he oversees
all the corruption in Ukraine.
We know there's corruption over
there. For the American people
watch and after a few months, a
few months after Hunter Biden
joined the Prisma board. Victor
Shokin, was named Prosecutor
General for Ukraine to target
corruption, and one of his
investigations was into Burisma.
In this ft 1023 document, the
human source clarified that
Burisma CEO, the man in charge
of prisoner said he has many
text messages and recordings
that show he was coerced to make
such payment to ensure Victor
Shokin was fired. Matter of
fact, there were 17 of them. Mr.
Garland, it's clear Joe Biden
wanted Shokin fired so he would
stop looking into Burisma where
Hunter was on the board. Would
you agree? All right, let's let
the American people decide play
the clip, play the clip and it
goes to
our clip. Remember going over
Adam Curry: he goes to the CFR
clip which you might have why
this is we might as well play it
because he's making his point
and it's beautifully done seen
Unknown: our team or others to
convince you know that we should
be providing for loan
guarantees. And I went over, I
guess 1213 Time to keep and and
I was going supposed to announce
that there was another billion
dollar loan guarantee. And I had
gotten a commitment from
Poroshenko and from to take
action against the prosecutor,
and they did. So they said the
head of the walkouts press kind
of said nice and I'm not gonna
we're not gonna give you the
billion dollars. They said you
have no authority. You're not
the president. The president
said, I said call him. I said,
I'm telling you not getting the
billion dollars. I said, you're
not getting the billion I'm
gonna be leaving here. I think
it was, what six hours I look. I
said, well, even six hours. If
the prosecutor is not fired,
you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired.
They put in place someone.
Adam Curry: So clearly, I just
want to point out, someone in
the writers room is listening to
no agenda because you called for
this very clip not but two shows
ago.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the
clip. This is the clip. And so
there's clips been around for
like years. Years and years and
the right wing is always pushing
this clip. And for some reason,
the mainstream media has ignored
it to this day, they still
ignore it. It's a minute
Adam Curry: left here. Mr.
Attorney
Unknown: General, what you just
saw there was Joe Biden, in his
arrogance and role as the vice
president in this country saying
if you don't fire Shokan, the
United States isn't given the $1
billion loan. Why would Joe
Biden say that as the Vice
Premier, why would he say such a
thing? Was it policy? Was it our
policy at the time? Yes or No?
It wasn't. I have documents
here. Interagency Policy
Committee data. Quantum
Information is The gentleman's
time on my time pipe down. So
Shokin had made some he's made
significant reforms. Shokin did.
Matter of fact, John Kerry says
Adam Curry: he was about John
Kerry, another guy whose kid was
involved in corruption in
Ukraine had made
Unknown: the last Texas he's
made significant reforms. Shokin
did. Matter of fact, John Kerry
says he was impressive. And you
know, within a few months after
shocking was fired, they appoint
a prosecutor that said, we're
not going to look in the Burisma
anymore, cancel it and forget
it. We're not looking into
Prisma boom, here comes the
million dollars. Bill Biden
threatened to Ukrainian
president the Prime Minister,
everybody can see it the fire
Shokan or the United States
won't give the billion dollars.
If that is not quid pro quo,
sir. What is I will tell you
what it is in America agrees
with me. It's bribery, and it's
impeachable. Are you going to do
something about it? I bet you're
not. And that's why you, sir.
Also need to be impeached. I
yield back.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that was a
Oscar goes to whirlwind
performance. This new guy, he's
a new guy. Well, he's he's
trying to bring you know, Texas
has always got one guy.
Adam Curry: This is the guy.
Yeah, this is the guy, I need to
meet him. Hey, we got some more
ideas for
John C Dvorak: you, you will get
a word in edgewise.
Adam Curry: Now, all of this
said, there is some danger on
the horizon to a degree for
alternative media, you know,
like podcasts, although I think
we're pretty safe. I figured out
the Russell Brand thing it took
me it was bugging me. You know,
good. I was like, why, after
16 1516 years, you know, why is
this happening? Why did they pop
this, you know, this something
is going on? And the the and
this is mainly a British story,
although it concerns the United
States as well, because Russell
Brand is, is very popular. And
people have come to like popular
as a podcaster. Yes, people have
come to like him. Now, the
backdrop of this is that the
online safety bill is it was
going to be law in the UK, which
allows the British government to
essentially just spy on
everybody all the time. And, and
you know, it's the it's over
free speech is done in Britain.
So that, I believe what is
happening here? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
The whole thing. Just the naming
of the bill is fantastic. I
know. They're always named,
like, what is happening is there
is an awareness now that there
is that they're losing out,
they're losing out to these
other platforms. When I say
losing out, I mean, losing apps,
they mainstream media is losing
out to other platforms. So
they're losing advertising
revenue. And when I see when I
say mainstream, it is YouTube
specifically. Just as a quick
aside, Google is in the middle
of a antitrust lawsuit and all
kinds of discovery is coming up.
And things like that additional
or who was who runs the ad
business, said Monday he
believes most advertised removed
to rivals like meta, or bite
dances tick tock if Google tried
to increase prices by 15% While
they were rigging the ad
auctions to raise them by five
or 10%. It's Here's how you do
it. And they and they said, you
know, hey, you know, we have
real competition. But they
didn't mention the true
competition, which also involves
the, you know, like the
backdoors, the censorship, the
do what we say, which involves
politics. And the main one that
they're going after right now is
rumble. And they're doing it in
multiple ways. And rumble,
though, we have to understand
that when used they,
John C Dvorak: they use they
going after politicians,
Adam Curry: the politicians are
going after rumble. And the
politicians and the news media
is going after rumble. That's
they that's they and when I say
they, it is the politicians and
the news media lackeys. So we
have the correspondents from the
Culture, Media and Sport
committee, writing to the CEO of
rumble, saying I am writing
concerning the serious
allegations regarding Russell
Brand in the context of his
being a content provider on
rumble with more than 1.4
million followers. The culture
Media and Sport committee is
raising questions with the
broadcasters and production
companies who previously
employed Mr. Brand to examine
both the culture of the industry
in the past and whether that
that culture still prevails
today. However, we are also
looking at his use of social
media, including on rumble,
where he issued his pre emptive
response to the accusations made
against him by the Sunday Times
and channel fours dispatches,
and they're on and on and on. So
that would you, we would be
grateful if you would confirm
whether Mr. Brand is able to
monetize his content, including
his videos relating to the
serious accusations against him.
So they are trying to be the CEO
of rumble wrote back a letter,
I'm appalled, we'll never do
that. But the gauntlet has been
thrown down. If you don't remove
brand, we're going to de
monetize you. We're going to go
after your advertisers. And it
all came into view for me
listening to the news agents
podcast, I've talked about this
before the news agents is a
very, very successful podcast.
It's for top journalists from
the BBC, you know, the ones who
have interviewed statesman and
they kind of get together like
they're like they're in the news
room discussing stuff, right.
And they have a USA version now
as well. And it's owned by
global property. So it's it is a
mainstream media podcast. They
are all in on this, because they
do their Russell Brand. segment.
This is right after this all
breaks. Do they talk about rape
allegations? No, no, no, that's
not interesting. This is a
global player, original podcast.
Unknown: Hello there your
awakening wonders. Now this
isn't the usual type of video we
make on this channel where we
critique, attack and undermine
the news in all its corruption
because in this story, I am the
news.
That was Russell Brand on Friday
night on YouTube. And I think
it's important to remind our
listeners that for many people,
the first they ever heard about
this investigation about the
sexual assault allegations was
his pre denial on a platform.
That wasn't the Sunday Times
that wasn't Channel Four. That
wasn't the BBC. It was him
speaking directly to his
followers, his six and a half
million followers. He says
that I am the news. That is true
in more ways than one. Today. He
has been demonetized by YouTube
content and old shows of his
have been taken down by the BBC
by Channel Four. On today's
show. We're going to ask the
question about whether any of
that for brand for his reach to
the millions of people who
follow Him, online platforms,
whether any of that really
matters. Can you really cancel
Russell Brand?
Welcome to the news agents.
Adam Curry: So nuts to who cares
about rape? No, no, no, we
John C Dvorak: don't care about
that. I don't think he's been
charged either.
Adam Curry: No, as far as I
know, he hasn't. But it's not
about rape. No, no, it's about
his opinion, and monetizing his
opinion.
Unknown: I mean, when you've got
a situation when you know
Russell Brand, I mean just to
take some of his digital
followings. He's got 4 million
on Instagram 2.2 million on tick
tock six and a half million on
YouTube. And you know, when you
look at some of the things that
some of his followers have been
saying over the weekend, in
response to him, and you know,
the internet isn't necessarily
real life, but it's always to
some extent, a reflection of a
bit of real life and it is also
financial, financially lucrative
and real life. You know, some of
the things were with you,
Russell, I've been wondering how
long it would be until they they
tried to pull this card with
lock crying emoji. I'm with you
all the way Russell, they did it
to Assange. They tried it with
Bernie Sanders. They did it to
Corbin they'll try and find
anyone they find a threat. And
as we were talking about
yesterday, this is where there
is the intersection between
media and this new media
ecosystem and politics and the
fact that our politics on both A
side of the Atlantic has taken
this conspiratorial turn, where
players political players try
and pretend they're a kind of
shadowy figures everywhere
trying to undermine them. That
is exactly the same that Russell
Brand is tapping into, to try
and exploit this moment and to
try and survive this moment.
Adam Curry: This is the crux as
far as I'm concerned, they
realize that a lot of people
right and left are going to
alternative platforms, the new
media platforms, as they say,
this other ecosystem, and
they're getting a voice, they're
getting traction, and even D
monetizing on the with our
friendly guys, because it's easy
to D monetize someone on YouTube
and meta, which they won't talk
about No, no tick tock, that
seems to be a problem. But this
rumble thing is alternative
ecosystem.
Unknown: I think there are
places that are a few like the
safety net, more than that the
new ecosystem to this whole idea
of cancellations. So I was told
yesterday that actually one of
the platforms in which Russell
Brand is heavily monetizing is
rumble. And it was a site that I
wasn't that familiar with never
heard
Adam Curry: of it. I'm a
journalist, why would I ever
look at rumble I look at YouTube
and x,
Unknown: it kind of tends to
serve the right it tends to be
like Alex Jones, Steve Bannon,
and this sort of Info Wars kind
of people. And Aha, I was told
that Russell Brand is actually
getting millions from what he
does there, whether it's
monetized or whether they're
actually just paying for him,
because they find people who
have exactly been shut out, if
you like, of the mainstream
media, or shut out of the BBC or
channel four, or places that no
longer want to work with him and
say, oh, right, let us be your
home. And we will provide the
following for people who don't
really want to be part of that
mainstream media landscape
anyway,
Adam Curry: which is not that
big a problem other than and
this is the this is the whole
theme of same from the from the
Member of Parliament. Well, you
can't he's monetizing he's, it's
okay to be an idiot somewhere on
the internet, but you're
monetizing. This will not stand,
Rumble has to go down.
Unknown: And so actually, half
the stuff is going on that a lot
of people won't see they won't
recognize they'll totally
forgotten about him. Right. I
said, you know, the last few
nights I went on rumble last
night. Oh, no, it was really
interesting.
Adam Curry: I went on rumble
never never caught a rumble
video was really interesting,
because
Unknown: I didn't know that he'd
done the first interview with
Tucker Carlson, the fired Fox
news presenter, he's interviewed
Ron DeSantis. He's, you never
know that Russell Brand was so
tied in to what we think of as
the sort of, I don't know, the
Magga voice or the American
voice. And this suggests that,
you know, we will happily admit,
we are probably missing parts of
these conversations where
Russell Brand is flourishing,
and will continue to flourish.
Whether or not the BBC removes
an episode of Qi.
Exactly. And that's what is I
think that's what's so
fascinating about this, which is
that yeah, I mean, I was trying
to wrap my brain this morning, I
had some vague sense, I think
that he had gone down this kind
of anti Vax kind of route and
had become kind of more
eccentric, more kooky. But I had
no idea really, that he was this
is someone I like to think,
right? That pretty plugged into
the media, pretty close observer
of the media, but not that type
of media. And this is the kind
of challenge to us in a way,
right, is that we can all make
ourselves feel better by, you
know, thinking, Oh, right. He's
been dropped by this, that and
the other. And maybe it's not
applicable to loads of people.
But for someone like brand, it
doesn't matter. And in fact, not
only does it not matter,
arguably, it's helping it.
Adam Curry: They are beside
themselves. They can't stand it.
They can't do it. The whole idea
that there's traction and money
somewhere else that they don't
control. And that's completely
in line with what the Washington
Post did to Dave Portnoy.
They're going after advertisers,
which is why I've always said
you can't monetize the network,
Rumble will be in trouble. All
these centralized systems, but
oh is rumble Oh, they when
rumble loses their advertisers.
They will kick Russell Brand
off, or they will fold this
John C Dvorak: another keep in
mind he just won't be he won't
be paid.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but but the ad
what advertiser wants to be a
part of members of parliament
writing letters. Advertisers are
skittish. I mean, okay, totally
John C Dvorak: skittish, and
they're very sheepish Pearl,
clutching Gander bringing the
worst.
Adam Curry: I mean, you have one
Michael in Dell and in his
company, they really, I will say
decimated in the sense of the
word as in baby 10 20%. They
have they have hurt his
business. And he was like the go
to guy Squarespace is not going
to step up for anybody know any
Mattress Company is not going to
step up for anybody thinking
okay, it's a little too hot
here. I've got politicians
yelling at me and the wall
Washington Post. This is true. I
mean, this is when you hear this
Have you seen what happened that
you know Dave Portnoy from bars?
I listened
John C Dvorak: to Portnoy
talking to the reporter Yes.
condemning her this woman Heil.
And she was just like weenie of
the decade going on about well,
how you deal well, and important
important noise a target because
he's, he's a huge moneymaker.
Adam Curry: But the problem is,
and I have a little bit of that
conversation because what the
Washington Post reporter did,
because he's doing something
called the pizza fest, whatever.
So and the pizza fests are
sponsored by a number of
sponsors, and the Washington
Post to mess with him, writes
emails, and this is this is
tabloid journalism. I've been
through this exact thing. They
don't interview Portnoy, they go
to his sponsors and say, Well,
how do you feel about sponsoring
an event with a known
misogynist? What what is
John C Dvorak: the word Miss
Miss genic? Which is which is
slightly different than a
misogynist. What is Miss genic?
Because he means you have a
general distrust of women. Oh,
is there an actual I've not a
hatred, but an actual word Miss
Jana hatred but a mistrust.
Adam Curry: Because I was
looking because I thought he was
just mispronouncing the word.
No,
John C Dvorak: no, that's a real
word.
Adam Curry: mesogenic. Ca? Me,
Miss genic. Okay. Well just
listen to a little bit because
he calls her out on it. She
lies. And this is very typical,
very typical of how today's
journalism is run, which is
complete gutter. tabloid
journalism. This is how they do
it.
Unknown: This is Emily. Hey,
Emily. This is Dave Portnoy
calling. I'm recording you right
now. But I've noticed a bunch of
people your it seems like you're
sending. We have this pizza fest
happening on Saturday, and
you're reaching out to our
advertisers. And you're
basically sending an email that
says to the effect, Dave's
mesogenic racist. Do you want to
defend yourselves advertising at
this event? Right. I'm sorry.
What's your name? Dave. I'm
sorry. Who are you? I'm the guy
you're writing the article about
Dave Portnoy.
Oh, you're Dave Portnoy. Oh,
hey, how are you? Good. Hey,
good. No, I'm not. I'm not. I
haven't said anything like that.
I'm well,
I can read. If you want. If you
want. I can read what you
actually sent. I have
Adam Curry: you actually find
Miss genic in the dictionary? I
can't find it.
John C Dvorak: I found it. I'll
get you to spell funny. Okay.
But by the way, he right. There
is an important point because he
harps on this. She says no, I
didn't write anything like that
lie. A lie. A lie? Because then
he reads from hurts. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That was just one Listen,
one knows
Adam Curry: her reasoning is
even better. She's great.
Anything like that?
Unknown: Um, well, I can read.
If you want. If you want, I can
read what you actually sent. I
have it.
Yeah. Because I sent a bunch of
notes. So I want to make sure I
know
Adam Curry: what's in a bunch of
notes. Because you know, I'm a
journalist from the WaPo. I'm
above everything and everybody.
Unknown: Okay, we are planning
to write about the festival and
how and how some of the sponsors
and participants have drawn
criticism by seemingly to
associate themselves with Dave
Portnoy, who has a history of
mesogenic comments and other
problematic behavior. I want to
make sure that blank had a
chance to respond to this as a
company is the most prominent in
their partners of his festival.
Oh, that's the one I said, which
was definitely the most pointed
of them, because I really did
want them to respond. And I was
hoping to get something from
them do.
Adam Curry: That's what that's
what tabloid journalists. Do. I
want to I want to get them all
riled up. Yeah, I wanted to
respond. It was that's why it
was pointed. Okay. Because
Unknown: I really did want them
to respond. And I was hoping to
get something from them.
Do you think that's fair? Like,
I totally disagree with the
assertions of what you said that
mesogenic and all that stuff. So
like, it kind of backs people
into a corner. So I'm happy go
over anything. I mean, you have
that is pretty pointed. You said
you didn't do it, then I have
the exact evidence of you doing
it. So
I didn't say I didn't do that. I
said I did. That was the one
that was the most
John C Dvorak: heard her say she
didn't do it. Yeah. What
Unknown: before I before I
provided proof, you said you
didn't really remember doing
that. And then I read it to you
and you're like, oh, yeah, I did
that one time. So you did do it.
I'm happy to talk about the
comments because to me, it's
kind of like torturous
interference. Like we're doing
an event. Everyone's happy about
the event. You know, I've raised
50 million for small business.
I've helped pizzas none of that.
It's Dave's mesogenic and
problematic and I'm happy to
talk about it because to me,
nobody would like if someone's
going around sending that email
to their sponsors. And again,
you're in Like questioning you,
you're it's almost like a
statement of fact, this is what
I am.
Yeah. So I do want to talk to
you about this
one, we're gonna reach out.
We are planning on doing it
tomorrow morning.
Adam Curry: And what they will
do tomorrow morning is. So a
whole, we've talked a whole
bunch of sponsors, they say
your, your mesogenic, whatever
that means. We need you to
respond, we have a 1pm deadline.
That's how it works.
Unknown: So you're gonna write
the article, and then give me
like, I've had that a bunch
people write a full article, and
then give me the points after
now we're
doing a bunch of reporting, and
we wanted to make sure that when
we finally did talk to you, we
could really kind of present
what you know, or talk about
things more fully,
Adam Curry: more fully. Like,
what? What interests me is, she
really thinks she's doing her
job. She thinks she is doing
journalism, she truly believes
this is right. This is
righteous. You're a dick. We
God's true. She she really
sincere is
John C Dvorak: the word you're
looking for. Thank
Unknown: you sincere Is that
what you know, or talk about
things,
John C Dvorak: guys like this,
this guy's like this, you know
that? Okay, she comes in, and
then she's starting to, you
know, these trying to bully her
and but she's righteous, she's
righteous,
Adam Curry: righteous, like, why
Unknown: like, it sounds like
you have your opinion made me
based on that email.
So look, I just want you to know
that this is, I want to talk to
you a little laugh in there.
Adam Curry: God, this guy, mail.
Oh, so look,
Unknown: I just want you to know
that this is not. I want to talk
to you about this. But I
think you should talk to me
before sending that email.
What I wanted to do is I wanted
to talk to you when we had some
specific questions for you. So I
wanted to kind of have the full
idea of what we've asked on a
full idea.
Adam Curry: That's how you do
journalism these days. They're
going after advertisers. That's
my that's the bottom line.
They're gonna go after
everybody's advertisers. Google
is backing them. Google wants
tick tock out Google wants
RUMBLE, RUMBLE is apparently
something some force that
they're worried about. And in
today's extreme downmarket, they
will help I have no doubt that
meta platforms will help. What
can we do? Well, first just
pulled the plug, okay, we've the
platform, but we don't really
want to, you know, take them
off, because that'll start a
ground. So no, don't worry about
just no money for you brand.
Okay, now we have to go to the
other platforms, they're gonna
go after all of them, and they
will succeed. Advertisers will
walk away from this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Most of
them will.
Adam Curry: Well, not enough
will stay to make it
John C Dvorak: will make the net
that wants to stay or be
stretched too thin, because
everybody will want to want
their help.
Adam Curry: You know, in a funny
way you do. It works in a funny
way. The only way, the only way
is the RSS. Everybody needs
their own feed creator and
aggregator. We have to go back
to technology from 20 years ago.
It's all going to come tumbling
down. Like it is and this is why
we're who we are. Sure we are.
Now value for Vallisneria. Legs.
Hairy legs. It's Oh, man.
John C Dvorak: Well, before we
get in the whole thing about
broadcasting in these in the old
media, I dug up a a clip from
1961. Who will just ruin the
early days of our show. And
Adam Curry: I remember them
well. My dad's a telescope. Yes.
John C Dvorak: This is a famous,
there's a archive of all these
great speeches. And I found this
guy, Norman Minow, who was the
head of the FCC in 1961. And
this was his vast wasteland
speech. And he was giving a talk
to the NAB, which was
Adam Curry: a nation of
broadcasters.
John C Dvorak: And so this is
1961 him complaining about the
broadcast about TV. Mainly, he
was just bitching about TV. And
this is, what 62 years ago. And
I would like to play this in and
ask people if anything's really
changed,
Unknown: but when television is
bad, nothing is worse. I invite
each of you to sit down in front
of your own television set when
your station goes on there. And
stay there for a day without a
book, without a magazine without
a newspaper, without a profit
and loss sheet or a rating book
to distract you. Keep your eyes
glued to that set until the
station Chuck signs off. I can
assure you that what you will
observe is a vast wasteland. You
will see a procession of game
shows formula comedies about
totally unbelievable families.
Blood and thunder, man violence,
sadism, murder Western bad
Midwestern good men, Private
Eyes, gangsters, more violence
and cartoons and endlessly
commercials, many screaming,
cajoling and offending, and most
of all boredom, truly, you'll
see a few things you will enjoy.
But they will be very, very few.
And if you think I exaggerate, I
only asked him to try it. Is
there one person in this room
who claims that broadcasting
can't do better?
Adam Curry: That's a good clip
to bring back and evergreen for
sure. Yeah, and the same as the
Doom scrolling on social media.
It's exactly the same. Well, we
have one one thing wasn't in
that clip. men dressed as women
when women dressed as men. They
didn't have that as much back
then. In 19,
John C Dvorak: yeah, they had
quite a bit of it. Actually.
Milton Berle was always coming
out as a woman.
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
Nothing. The only thing
John C Dvorak: that even during
the 60s when you had the guy in
the mash TV sitcom, who's always
dressed as a woman, clinger
calling a ringer,
Adam Curry: yes, you're right.
John C Dvorak: It's your rights
as it never really knew.
Adam Curry: Well, the only thing
that's new is the collapse of M
five M CNN. Their total viewers
for the weekend slate of shows
including state of the union
with Jake Tapper, Danna bash,
and Fareed Zakaria each show how
many viewers do you think each
show polled this weekend on CNN.
So
John C Dvorak: they got more
than the asterisk.
Adam Curry: I don't have a
rating number I have a total
view number for them.
John C Dvorak: Okay, whether
they have number Musa was is
beyond the I would say 50,000
each. Ooh, 55,000.
Adam Curry: Very close. Very
close. 55,000 Yeah. Now MTV
Video Music Awards. Its highest
rated in three years. Among the
18 to 49 demographic, what
rating point do you think they
scored
John C Dvorak: highest to three
years to get it to
Adam Curry: 1.03 Cheese 800,000
people in total tuned in to
watch the award show on MTV.
That's failure. That's failure.
Now of course they they they're
big numbers we have 1.8 billion
minutes consumed.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the
latest I love this by the way.
Adam Curry: What advertise you
know who's eating everybody's
lunch? There's only one company
that is really winning with
advertising. And that's Amazon.
Because Amazon has an
advertising network that they
can tie back to direct purchases
of the product. Amazon is you
can't go wrong with that
technique. Everybody's ass and
they're beside themselves. They
don't know what to do and it's
collapsing so more reason to
support your value for value
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to thank you for your courage
they in the morning to you the
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say hello to my friend on the
other end. His Excellency the
honourable Joe
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you excellency in the morning
all ships see boots on the
ground feed near subs in the
water. All the names and nights
out there in the
Adam Curry: morning to
excellency in the morning for
the trolls and the troll room.
Let's have a count there. Hanjo
cows 1095 2095 We are down. We
are down. But we're not out. Is
that mean? We're
John C Dvorak: down is Thursday.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
confused. It's up. We're up.
We're winning. We're winning 200
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That's not going to happen
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John C Dvorak: and you won't be
able to find him. And for and I
hate
Adam Curry: to say it, but
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pop up. They cannot stop you.
They cannot stop you when you're
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You can follow Adam and no
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and troll around to your heart's
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good things there. I noticed the
memes have slowed down. I think
my my campaign worked.
John C Dvorak: No, I think the
memes have slowed down what
Adam Curry: the memes are just
no good. So there's no
advertisers to go after, which
of course means the news agents
will never talk about us, which
means we don't get Daniel that
mass market appeal. But that is
so 2010 to be number one of
something to be on the paid the
homepage of iTunes, we need we
need discovery mechanisms. Now.
No trolls, you are the discovery
mechanism. You go out you hit
people in the mouth, you tell
them about the show. And we give
this value to you completely
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levels, no premium content,
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advertisements, all we ask for
is that you send some value back
actually, the the value I
appreciate the most, although it
doesn't pay the bills. But what
I appreciate is when people say,
Hey, you guys really saved my
butt. Now, don't you love that
when
John C Dvorak: people say that?
So it's pretty funny.
Adam Curry: I was like, it's
like, hey, you know, without you
guys die, be dead. Some people
simply I'd be dead. Some people
have said that, you know, or, or
I would I would be in a worse
situation or I wouldn't have
kept my eyes out for this.
That's the kind of value in the
time, talent and treasure that
we like so much. We also
appreciate people doing things,
creating jingles, boots on the
ground reports, clips, we have
so many people who do so much
for us. That's the only way that
it works because we don't have
rumble money. If we just don't
have brand money, though,
instead, you bring it to us. You
you help us do that as
producers. No one here is a
listener you are only a producer
of the best podcast in the
universe. That typically we get
a lot of value from our artists.
And I would say it's only once
in a blue moon. Unfortunately, I
jinxed it by talking about it.
We had to resort to an evergreen
for the artwork for episode 1591
titled half jacked. That's
hyphenated.
John C Dvorak: I think it's
interesting that Paul couture
took the evergreen and put it on
the on the right page in the
section for the art
Adam Curry: but because he's
providing tremendous value with
the no agenda rt generator.com
service. me there's no denying
that space cat had done this a
while back. I'm going to say
that might have been during
Valentine Day.
John C Dvorak: Via but maybe two
years ago, that long ago. I kind
of is an old piece.
Adam Curry: Let me see. It's
possible now. Because space CAD
hasn't started submitting since
May 1 2022. So no, I don't think
it was
John C Dvorak: less less last
February then but we
Adam Curry: could not okay,
here's the main thing. I go to
the no agenda art generator.com
webpage. Now when you go to no
agenda Art Generator calm. The
first thing you see is the
standing the ranking, which is
fun. There's important updates
all kinds of information, then
you go into submitted art the
past couple of months. The
minute I see this page, all I
see is AI now it's not all AI,
but the majority is just people
sitting at home doing AI stuff.
Mostly AI mostly. And it's
boring. I mean, we looked at
John C Dvorak: well, you have a
theory that you do. Or we both
have the theory, which is that?
No, I think this is yours. The
AI is keeping real artists from
submitting anything right
Adam Curry: because people see
some beautiful piece and they
all kind of
John C Dvorak: I mean they're
well done, but they're not.
They're not.
Adam Curry: They don't have the
X factor by far. I mean, it was
so bad. You went like Yeah, how
about that? No agenda target
logo from dirty jersey.
John C Dvorak: The one I picked
for the newsletter.
Adam Curry: That was the best
one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
I thought.
Adam Curry: I just thought it
was so plain. I mean, can we
have something?
John C Dvorak: No, it's riddle.
It was like a classic evergreen
type piece of art. That just
doesn't say anything doesn't
have any thing that is the
giveaway like about archery, it
would make more sense, but it
was pretty.
Adam Curry: The giveaway is when
people take a picture of a
person. And then you know, like,
do this with Russell Brand. Now
they're telling AI What to do
now. Gus, not Safia, ski FOSS
ski FIFA. He is not doing AI but
he's doing a style that we
already did once and we even
told them like, this is one
Surfer Magazine art Yeah, it's
like once in a blue moon we'll
do that but we think we just did
a piece like this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's also
good kind of Surfer Magazine are
cross dressing with kind of a
kidnapping do
Adam Curry: Yeah, and it's not
bad. But it's
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
nice, but it's not we're not
going to pick this for another
for a year. Exactly. It's exist
stylized. Exactly.
Adam Curry: It'd be like picking
a cheesecake every single show
right now and also,
John C Dvorak: we don't do that
almost don't talk a big game but
we don't do all the
Adam Curry: stuff that has
hippie dippie colors like we
know what you're doing. But it's
crowding out the true artists.
And I think it's been a severe
degradation. And I Yes, I'm just
looking at the names. Where are
our classic artists while
certain that Ned gave it a try?
But just didn't quite hit it
with a no agenda lifesavers
although I understand what he's
trying to do the day Yeah, like
we're lifesavers but it's just
like it was a three flavors you
know it's kind of been kind of
done and then Dame Kenny been
outstanding artists get shows us
a but Does she really think
we're going to show it we're
going to put a but as artwork.
John C Dvorak: I didn't even
look at who did that I had
James. She's good. It's assumed
it was comic strip blogger
WooCommerce or Blogger should
Adam Curry: be banned. Look at
what he's all it's all common
should blogger all the Russell
Brand stuff and I think that
pollutes it. People go in and
whatever. Oh, they'll never see
the subtleties
John C Dvorak: are saying comic
strip blogger is a polluter.
Adam Curry: He's a he's an art
polluter? Yes, he's an art
polluter. Content. No,
John C Dvorak: this was a bad
selection. It was it was
Adam Curry: I do have wasn't any
good. Do you have a follow up
for our donation segment? You
know, correct the record. And
also the, the something
something topic for Dummies
books. We've also done that so
many times. So he said
contacting the IRS for dummies.
John C Dvorak: It was it was a
chuckle. Yes, we've done way too
many dummies books. And that
wasn't one of the best
presentations of it.
Adam Curry: I had a follow up
from our producers who were had
been targeted by the the IRS AI
system. And they just wanted to
say of course, if you can get a
hold of the IRS, of course you
get a hold of someone. But this
is a part of their automated
under reporter system, which is
a real thing. I have certainly
talked to people at the IRS,
they literally cannot help you.
First they don't even appear to
understand basic accounting.
They cannot and will not put me
in touch with the department
that runs a system. All they are
authorized to do is put a note
in the account and hope that
someone in the office in Philly
reads the note. Even if I went
down to the nearest IRS office
they are powerless to do
anything about the case because
it resides within the AU our
department where you can only
interface through the mail,
mailing them documents which
I've sent them to boxes seems to
result in them not reading the
documents sending me another
letter saying I owe 10 times my
annual revenue in taxes. So
there is frustration and I got a
lot of people with similar
similar problems.
John C Dvorak: Time to talk to
your Congressman. Yeah, that guy
from Texas. That guy from
Adam Curry: Texas is the go to
guy that's the guy you want.
Yes. And you and your
congressman should be doing
something about it. For sure. So
while it was a a best of
evergreen, we do want to thank
space cat can we look forward to
let me see what we have now. Let
me just take a um looks like
people are doing some cretin
more creative stuff here for
today but comics are blogger
polluting again. polluting
polluting is polluter. Love him,
but what a polluter. So we'll
see. We'll see what we liked the
concepts. We like when people do
smart things. You know, when
people look at the art and go
oh, man, that makes so much
sense. Oh, that's funny. I can't
wait to hear that episode.
That's what we're looking for.
When you To say
John C Dvorak: yep that was say
that's probably as a summary as
good as summaries go
Adam Curry: all right so we'll
see how they do for today's
episode but thank you everyone
who tried Thank you comments
your blogger for trying but try
and limit it limit it to
something your best piece yeah
one good one and one good one No
don't when you do three Russell
brands that tells me you're just
like hitting the regenerate you
know I have this stuff I got it
running at home now I find I got
a I got I got 11 large language
models they all they all suck
John C Dvorak: to what you using
it to write or what are you
using it for? I
Adam Curry: can use it for art I
have one for a model for
creating art so I did like what
is it what
John C Dvorak: brand
Adam Curry: yet? Well the name
of the model I would have to
give you that it's not a brand
so I have all the last
somebody's
John C Dvorak: got to do the
software it has to have a
company name and no it doesn't
no that's not just have a big
database. It's just sitting
there random No, you have
Adam Curry: the the large
language model you had the large
model. And these are all open
source I told you this is the
open source all of this which is
why it's a joke. No, there's I
have to tell you which ones we
have we have the Misao Max l
213. B That one seems to be
reasonable but it's all horrible
here the news hair mess llama
two, we've got the Hairmax llama
two seven B the dolphin llama
two seven B Samantha one one
llama seven B code llama seven B
instruct mark three BV to
Griffin three B John it all is
lame. It sucks it's no better
than Lisp and C Plus Plus this
it's not this not outstanding.
It's it's a big scam. It doesn't
work well. They don't you want
to does it actually if you say
find something in Scripture
about this topic, it does a
pretty decent job.
John C Dvorak: Other biblical?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, there's so
many there's so much written so
many Bibles that are available
open source is kind of an open
source products that were out of
a mind. You know what I mean? It
works. That works pretty well.
But everything else? It it lies
it hallucinate. It's just wrong.
It's wrong and if you have it
right something Oh my god. Any
professional writer rolls their
eyes at this flowery language.
John C Dvorak: Like to have it
right wine reviews, it probably
do the job of these wine
reviewers like to go on and on
and on about weird so
Adam Curry: that's a good idea.
I'll do a wine review with with
with with my AI and I'll read it
to you on the next show.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Yeah,
it'll be it'll be a winner.
Adam Curry: I'm sure you'll
laugh your ass off. And we have
some AI stuff coming up later.
But first let's thank the people
who brought us the treasure and
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We kick it off with our top
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John C Dvorak: I don't know she
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Adam Curry: So we have nothing
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Well if this if that technique
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John C Dvorak: jingles and
stuff. Thanks David from
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Adam Curry: Oh Texas favorite
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John C Dvorak: It's over
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Adam Curry: You know, like
people will come into our house
and say you want something to
drink? And you see you want some
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Totally. We call it a topo.
Yeah, I bet you do. Don't call
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You guys are spot on in terms of
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Yep, it's all over. There you
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large corporation and I feel bad
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I forgot
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Let me do that. You've got
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John C Dvorak: I think by light
at the end of the tunnel he it
meant he's going to quit.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Yeah, he's
he's quitting his job.
John C Dvorak: Yes, my guest
Matthew Grisham is up next and
he's in Zephyrhills Florida.
Yes. Interesting.
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Yes, I did get deaths very
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story from a few years back? I
should read this email. I had to
dig it up. Maybe read it later.
That you know, they found that
Catholic bunch of Catholic
schools had a bunch of dead
native native Canadians, you
know, indigenous Canadians had
found them they dug them up the
Pope came over and everyone's
apologizing left and right. Well
now turns out to be a complete
hoax. Including the the pope got
hoax. Everybody got hoaxed a
pope hoax and so they then no
one's covering this part of it
of the hoax because it's like
oh, geez, we got embarrassed
because there was all over this
gets burned the Catholics
because they kill these kids.
Bullcrap
Adam Curry: who did who came up
with
John C Dvorak: it, there were
never bones there in the first
place. He says it was all a
phony determination by ground
penetrating radar.
Adam Curry: Oh, even better.
Send me a copy of that. I want
to read that.
John C Dvorak: I will send it to
you. Now. I'll try to dig it up.
I'll read it on the show later.
Adam Curry: By the way, this is
great for the donation segment.
This really spices up the whole
program. Appreciate that Mr. Bob
double Lena Lee is in Green Bay,
Wisconsin to 23 dot 23. He's our
first Associate Executive
Producer, and this donation
qualifies him for knighthood. He
says I wish to be dubbed the
cervix have the long position. I
guess he invest in the VIX. Then
ETF the VIX is that what that's
called?
John C Dvorak: No No but yeah,
well it's kind of the VIX is
really just just a creation it
is a creation that reflects the
volatility in the market doesn't
even exist it's like a bitcoin
is kind of just like
Adam Curry: Bitcoin it's just
like Bitcoin thank you for
John C Dvorak: very similar
Adam Curry: How was Bitcoin How
was the VIX different from
money? Isn't doesn't money not
exist either? I mean, isn't that
just
John C Dvorak: I can Yeah, get a
hold a bill. I don't want to put
it my mouth.
Adam Curry: She said, Okay. Hey,
Annie wants venison and verm
Vermox what's Vermox?
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
Vermox is. I have no idea
Adam Curry: vermouth. I know.
But Vermox venison. It's well,
well, we'll taste it later.
That'll be at the roundtable for
you. Hope to see everybody at
the Green Bay meet up this
Saturday, Jill's bar 3pm Note
forthcoming. We look forward to
it. Lee. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Carl Nagle in
Hempstead, North Carolina to a
164 about my magic number. It's
the cash back from my credit
card that I never use. How does
that work? For everyone out
there with a credit card that's
just sitting out there with
money on it? I bet there's tons
of listeners with balances who
could elevate themselves to the
level of not a douchebag like
me. I'm in North Carolina not
commie Fornia love the show.
Adam Curry: Does Carl need to
dilution for this?
John C Dvorak: I think he does.
You've been de deuced
Adam Curry: and Nathan the ra ta
ro TA and Eureka River, Alberta,
Canada Navia 200 In the morning
from the lamb that doesn't burn
books. Adam here's something you
can refill your biscuit tin.
John, the Obama clip was yuck.
Thank you both for making the
news digestible and forgive me
for pod stealing. That means
that d douching is no longer a
pod. See, thank you for your
courage.
John C Dvorak: You've been D
deuced. And last on our list is
Linda Lou Pak and in Lakewood,
Colorado, she was jobs Carmen
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Adam Curry: These are the
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is going to take us through to
the 50s and we'll get into our
meetups and more second half on
the way too.
John C Dvorak: And before I do
that, I want to thank you, sir
1010 Jelenia and Renegade for
sending me the the uttama tau
whatever it's called. Oh, before
noisemaker that will be his
batteries.
Adam Curry: And I need to thank
our our night from the wood from
the wooden watches once he said
hold on a second. Let me get it.
He sent it to me, John. I have
axehead watches you know, he's
sir Mike. Sir, my writer of MIT
and he sent me the Karmapa Lee
game. Oh, I
John C Dvorak: want a copy of
this.
Adam Curry: This is the only one
in existence. though. He
John C Dvorak: sent us a
prototype. He sent
Adam Curry: me the prototype.
It's hilarious. I think he
should restart the crowd for
now. Why? crowdfund people would
pay money for this. Give a piece
of it to the show. It is a
Hulett he went he tried to raise
$20,000 That's the you know,
that's a that's a that's a hard
one for crowdfunding. It is. I
mean, he's got everything in
there. Tina, you're gonna play
it with some friends. It is it
is. I mean, it's just it's
monopoly only no agenda style.
It is a dynamite piece of work.
He put a lot of work into this.
And not only that, but the the
demo version. This this first
print up he got has a typo. So
it's a complete collector's item
was a typo. I couldn't find it.
But he says it's out there. So
he says it's a typo. I haven't
been able to find it. It's just
a beautiful piece of work. I
mean, please, sir Mike,
John C Dvorak: I start doing it.
What is the Monopoly game
normally sell for?
Adam Curry: I don't know.
Actually. Let's
John C Dvorak: look it up we can
consult the book and knowledge
or consult the book of Amazon
Adam Curry: yeah well why don't
you consult the book of also
someone else and me will read
John C Dvorak: these things and
then you look at the price for
the game because it would be
interesting if he could shoot if
he could bootstrap it. Okay all
right, we're just gonna start
with thing is and people started
with Alan bows and Langley BC on
an seven $8.08 per give you some
karma at the end Jason Bible, or
bibble in Austin, Texas. 120 12,
dan melee and Fremont,
California 113 Aaron Lundqvist
in Sebring, Florida Sebring.
101. A one Melissa Reeve in
Winchester Virginia 100 Then I
got some notes got these people
need dee doo Shanks Priscilla,
let me make sure we got this
right. These are checks that
came in with cute little notes.
Adam Curry: He's from a meet up
or something? Must be
John C Dvorak: No, these are
just checks that came in the
mail. Oh, okay. And Priscilla
wrote a long note on a card and
I love the show. We've enjoyed
it for years. Please. Do a quick
check. Blah, blah, blah. Check
on this. She doesn't Okay, she
doesn't need that the douching
but and she came in with $100
Edsel Baker came in with $100
and he needs a D douching.
Adam Curry: You've been D deuced
by the way a monopoly game.
Cheap Jack like just something
you know, like, Okay, I'm
playing the game but it's just
cheap. is about $34 for a nice
old school Monopoly game up to
luxury edition board 279 And the
bikes Well, I mean, it's a
luxury it's beautiful. But what
does
John C Dvorak: luxury mean? You
get a blow job when you buy it
Adam Curry: correct. How did you
know right from Amazon. It's a
it's like a wooden a beautiful
wooden piece and Scott. You put
the it's has a sunken middle.
You know so so you can see the
dice the dice when you roll on
this and the cards are all in
the middle please but the
monopoly the classic edition $34
And then you've got the cheap
the cheapo modern edition, which
may not even have the hat and
everything. I don't know what to
have him
John C Dvorak: run off in China
and get him printed up for next
to nothing John Jason Guile is
also in for 100 bucks and he
needs a D douching. You've been
de Deus assume he's on the
birthday list. Just shout out to
Jason gal. I'm so this from
Rachel. Rachel. Now I'm going to
put on I just probably a
switcheroo. So we'll give it
credit. Right.
Adam Curry: From Rachel. From
Rachel to
John C Dvorak: Jason.
Adam Curry: That it's a
birthday.
John C Dvorak: Birthday shadow
didn't have a date. Okay, from
Adam Curry: Rachel to Jason.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: All right. Onward
with Aaron Lewis in Ashburn,
Virginia 9024
Adam Curry: Brian one happy one
year anniversary to my smokin
hot hubby Kyle you go want to do
him shoot or maybe
John C Dvorak: you've been deed
deuced this 9024 Brian Lillard
and prosper Texas. 8888. Carson
Brown and state in Oregon. 81
needs a D douchey. You've been D
deuced. Doing it done it Kevin
McLaughlin is in Concord, North
Carolina with his classic boob
donation of 808 promoting the
kiss melon, the kiss melon. It's
got a big tongue that comes out
of it. Richard White in
Middleton, Connecticut 7105. And
as a switcheroo for his awesome
wife Joey in the woods from
corporate Hampshire and a de
Deus she's needed. You've been
de deuced good. Oh sir Rick in
Arlington, Washington. 6996 Rita
Harrington in Sparks Nevada
6633. Stephen Nehring in
Houston, Texas 6333. Sir Kevin
O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois 606
small boobs and Kevin McLaughlin
is back. I don't know how long
this is gonna continue 606 But
this time he's promoting the
papaya melon.
Adam Curry: How long will he be
able to come up with melon
names?
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
many more melons there are in
the world. David Jarman in
North, in north south, where is
that New South news is in
Australia. It's 57. I'm getting
confused in 2017 broker a 5510.
Jake Mark Are mountain ma l OTT
mallet in Bellevue, Illinois a
lot
Adam Curry: melotti even had
John C Dvorak: a lot of times
with a lot.
Adam Curry: made lots Melot
John C Dvorak: Melot Alton poop
I'm sorry Alan pop in Trenton,
Michigan 53 Tima Z wit even even
in Pasco Washington 53 Just say
you're on the list buddy.
Adam Curry: You know if if
there's no agenda Karmapa Lee
came with a blow job and people
might have crowdfunded for 20
Grant. I'm just saying.
John C Dvorak: Is that a joke
you just got now or
Adam Curry: I just added it just
came build up for the Yeah,
okay, sorry. I'm sorry. You're
the one here the font around
here. Yes, timing is everything.
John C Dvorak: Bear in Henry in
Rancho Palos Verdes days. 5242
Andrew Benz and Imperial
Missouri 5005. And here we go.
We have a lot of $50 donors
today. Starting with Marcel
mill, okay. Let me admit Mr.
Mather might might might or Vika
you
Adam Curry: go medivac Very
good. In Gouda.
John C Dvorak: Gouda, Gouda.
Gouda well good is it's a cheese
does one of the cheese cities
series Holland cheese and
candles? So I didn't know the
candles part.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, big
candles.
John C Dvorak: Luke Olson
Alexandria Virginia. Gadget
freak 10 in Western Springs,
Illinois. Alexandria, river de
hoe and Gig Harbor, Washington.
Corey Bennett in Denver,
Colorado, Scott lavender in
Montgomery, Texas. Ryan Sant 10
gel, Santangelo San tangelos
Selita, California. Thanks for
inventing podcasts he writes.
You're welcome to send money
you're watching me getting
credit for something finally.
Adam Curry: Where's my Nobel
Peace Prize?
John C Dvorak: It's coming. No,
it's not dead some Peabody. Oh,
Oswald and Lindsey date where
I'm getting confused. Lithia
Florida Jo Fletcher Scaife in
Wilston, North Dakota, Chris
Cowan in Austin, Texas man
Andrew Guzik, Sir Andrew in
Greensboro, North Carolina,
Fabian bebber In Winnington.
Deutschland All right. Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New
Jersey.
Adam Curry: Montclair. Robert.
My old town. Really? Yeah, my
clay Roger
John C Dvorak: Robert case and
mill spring North Carolina
Julian Robinson Aptos.
California Matt Dyess mills.
Schinsky. in Hawthorne,
California. Nicholas Rooij in
Harpers Ferry, West Virginia,
Daniel DuBois in Bath, Michigan,
Melissa Reeve in Winchester,
another Winchester and in
Virginia to get together, Robert
Britton and forced in Georgia.
You need to de douching
Adam Curry: you've been de
deuced
John C Dvorak: Paul Terra Nova
Terra Nova in Webster,
Massachusetts. Leanne Shipley
and Covington, Washington sir
spied the mighty in Marietta,
Georgia and last but not least
is surgery wing and Roth in
Saugus, California want to thank
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Thank you. We really appreciate
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Deck just for you. We've got
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Unknown: don't want to be
Adam Curry: alright so if I
understand correctly, Sir David
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Heel also becomes a Baronet
today thanks for their
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no agenda meetups.com is the
website that is completely
producer run our night, sir
Daniel. He organizes that Mimi
does the back office stuff with
Jay and we really have a
beautiful beautiful collection
of groups people getting
together all over the world to
complete your no agenda
experience. You don't just
listen to the podcast. You don't
just go out and hit people in
the mouth you don't just troll
around on no agenda social no
you have to go to a meet up for
full connection which brings you
complete protection. Let's check
out the Richmond meetup report
Unknown: in the morning. This is
Dame trail chicken at the ITM
Richmond meetup.
Hi this is Catherine at the
legend beer brewing company
having a beautiful day with
beautiful breezes beautiful
autumn weather
ITM This is Marshall from Lucas
Hill, Virginia. Let's go Brandon
ITM. This is Marshall Bennett
Jr. God bless the Queen man. I'm
going to bed
happy in Virginia. Trains good
planes bad
and this is Tom Starkweather.
Torquay in the morning. This is
a OTG and on and I'm wondering
why was traffic email sent? Hi,
this is Sarah and
life is a scam. This is Rob from
Richmond in the morning. Sorry
Steve Domenico. John. I got a
chance to hey it's Roseland in
King George and I'll see you
next month Tina bear shrunk and
Megillah shrunk I can Boyce
says Christopher in King George
were your newest executive
producers thanks a lot guys.
Adam Curry: I love those big
meet up but you can't get much
bigger than the indie people.
Unknown: Hello this is Dave
Maria and Sir Mark so very happy
to have all these no agenda
aficionados in this beautiful
day with liquid sun sign and
lots of other libations ITM
in the Morning John Nana Miss
zemli need to work on your
Italian accent in the morning
John.
This is Bruce here.
I'm syrup of the maple. Skip to
rugby game watching the World
Cup to come to this meetup and
identify who it is.
Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel in
the morning.
Thank you for your courage and
who cares
about rugby in the morning. This
is Dame Trinity
and Sir PVR streaking and there
is no evidence that there's a
preference between Adams and
Jones. Sink.
Nailed it sir
Betty
in the morning Dame Swanee and
I'm married to the guy next door
and we never had a fight by John
and Adam is high up in
Zionsville. It's a first
meet up thank you for your
courage
in the mornings out anatomists
sort of afraid of the dark moon
in the morning, this is Amy from
Westfield
and morning Adam drama Susannah
fortwayne There are no Iron Man
level orky tents but hey, in the
morning, have a great day. Good
morning. This is for them
Arizona in ski this party is
garbage. There's no cocaine.
There's no male brother.
I'm out of there.
Adam Curry: Yo man, I want to go
to these indie meetups. We have
to go I have to continue on I
have to get this together. Those
people are insane. Don't you
want to be a part of a group
like that diverse, different
languages, different
backgrounds, different ages and
all hanging out together and
they do it all the time in
India. Wow, beautiful. Coming up
meetup wise. We've got a quite a
list for today actually. The two
hot Tucson Meetup is four
o'clock in Tucson, Arizona. The
Sandy brigade Third Thursday
five o'clock in Post Falls Idaho
at Selkirk Abby, the thirsty
Third Thursday that is edge
tavern Charlotte, North
Carolina. Totally not a drug
cartel or spook meetup takes
place at seven o'clock at
Rosarito Beach Hotel. That's in
Rosarito, Mexico Sir Brian in
London is there hope people show
up he's very pumped about
meeting people. We have Friday
the suds and sanity meet up UK
ochrony Brewing Company in
Greensboro, Georgia, we have the
got the goat karma producers
local 33 The return of serve
Vicksburg and Cornerstone pub
and prime Wyoming Minnesota on
Saturday Motorworks meet up at
Motorworks brewery Bradenton,
Florida, the Connecticut meet up
to 30 at the truck bar in Hagen
in Connecticut. boots on the
ground to 33 the garden as San
Diego California Star Chamber of
Idaho El Mariachi in Star Idaho
that'll be at three o'clock at
the Green Bay meet up Jill's bar
Green Bay, Wisconsin heard about
that earlier in the donation
segment. And the Sonoma Wine Oh
country country meetup 2.03 33
at iron and Vine and Santa Rosa
California and also on Saturday
the flight of the no agenda
Denver 44 trains good plains bad
333 Santa Fe cafe in Fulton
California Leo Bravo of course
organizing and finally on the
list here we have the off cycle
meet up for special guests are
Sean of Slovakia. Five o'clock
at Lyon Hall Arlington Virginia
sounds like a spook neat up to
me, Sir William of West
Pennsyltucky we'll be organizing
those are just some of the many
no agenda meetups go to no
agenda meetup.com to find all of
them if you can't find one near
you. You must live in a very
desolate place but you can
always start one it's easy to go
hang out with Jason days you
won't be triggered you want to
be
Unknown: everybody feels the
same.
Adam Curry: It's like okay, I
have actually have four I have
four I have four Oh, you want to
go first or one of mine just go
first you got your four lined up
one of them failed for some
reason why did that one fail one
of them failed I don't have
three of this that's I could not
resist not clipping that for an
ISO we have this one okay. Wow.
Always a seed man.
John C Dvorak: We used that
Adam Curry: before No that's
it's new as far as what's his
name? This is a seed man i So
seed man Well, maybe this one
Unknown: it's almost mind
blowing.
John C Dvorak: Who has a good
one. Okay, I've got starting
with unfortunately I didn't have
it so I got you show us show
Texas things.
Adam Curry: Things in Texas
stock No, no I veto that. That's
just not going to happen. No,
no.
John C Dvorak: That's go with I
get the vast wasteland. vast
wasteland.
Adam Curry: Yeah, decent.
John C Dvorak: Decent is not as
good as Amy Scott outrageous. Is
so outrageous. And last is
Destroy. Destroy New York City.
Adam Curry: Although funny, no.
I think we go with Amy. Amy was
good. Yeah, you don't get Amy
saying that kind of stuff. Let
me hear her again. Let me hear
just to make sure. It's almost
Unknown: mind blowing mind.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
definitely a good that we got.
So I went and took your advice
and watch the morning show.
Adam Curry: Oh my god. How bad
was it?
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't
think was as bad as you thought
it was.
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?
The writing was horrible.
Jennifer Aniston has ruined her
face with whatever she's done.
And then they bring in Jon Hamm.
It's atrocious.
John C Dvorak: It's well, it's
desperation. But I did get three
clips. Oh, no.
Adam Curry: Wait, this was not
the If I had known you were
gonna get a clip I would have.
Here's my problem. To do a
television show about a news
program that's doing news about
what is currently news ie
Ukraine. COVID, et cetera, is
very difficult and they fail as
far as I'm concerned. They fail.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would say
you it's hard to do that sort of
thing because it's not
Evergreen. And what and these
things get old fast and don't go
into distribution. Nobody wants
to watch them after you know,
Adam Curry: Apple should be
ashamed of themselves and I'm
and I'm no longer Team Jen.
John C Dvorak: So I didn't know
you ever were well, did you
either team or team Taylor?
Adam Curry: No. Yeah, of course,
of course was Tata team Tata.
John C Dvorak: So there's a
couple so I got some clips
knowing what you were you were
complaining about the woke
writing and I got three clips
that kind of epitomize it and
let's start with this m s are
these three clips.
Adam Curry: Ah, this is this is
what you all you see, you don't
want me peeking on your clips.
So you just had this call it M
S, so he doesn't like listen to
John C Dvorak: a morning show
him so it makes sense now, sure.
Here's jab, jab six.
Unknown: On January 6 2021, our
democracy hung in the balance,
watched on television screens,
as violence broke out at our
most revered institution.
Bradley Jackson didn't watch.
Bradley was there. Oh, yeah. She
was there.
Adam Curry: She was reporting on
her cell phone from inside the
Capitol.
John C Dvorak: She's not in
jail, then. I can't believe
you're doing this. So here's
another one. This is abortion
talk.
Unknown: You should try to get
some sleep out of 120 abortion
clinics in Texas. How many do
you think are fake?
I don't know, like 30.
According to this article
100 100 clinics routinely lie to
pregnant women about how far
along they are so that they
think they're too late to
terminate the pregnancy. I mean,
there'll be three weeks along
and they'll tell them that
they're eight weeks because the
cut off is six weeks. Wow.
seconds fucked up.
That's I mean, it's really
horrifying. Yeah, but where's
this coming from? Right now?
Your Are you spending three
timbers like this? It's insane.
just pisses me off. You go to
your doctor, you don't want to
be lied to I agree. We all agree
things in Texas stock lots of
things, but maybe we just like,
I don't know, look forward to
the barbecue.
Adam Curry: So they're on a
private jet. While this dialogue
is taking place, and I have
never heard this do you think
they completely made this up?
John C Dvorak: Good. B is a
fictional show. Yeah, but I
mean, they definitely did.
Aniston I think used to live in
Austin, but this anti Texas
stuff. I thought the anti Texas
stuff finished off with this
particular my last clip. I'm not
going to bore people stiff with
this. But this is just too much
for me. This is the one that
it's an eye roller. This is the
Texas heat clip
Unknown: to the meaning hotter
March.
Adam Curry: I couldn't hear it.
I remember
John C Dvorak: Okay, when she
comes out of the plane in March,
she says Oh, could it be any
hotter? It's not that hot in
Texas in March but Okay. Could
it be any hotter? And the guy
says was it Corsica? Do you
write the music's too loud? The
Adam Curry: future? Yeah,
climate change. It is the show
is atrocious. They shouldn't
have even done a second series.
I liked it. I know the second
was iffy. Oh, the second one I
couldn't watch. So this was
after the show talk. This is how
this is how John and I have
nothing to discuss. Where I say
hey, I have watched the morning
show. It's crap. And John says
oh, yeah, watch the Barbie
movie. Hey, guess what? I didn't
watch John. I did not watch the
Barbie movie.
John C Dvorak: I'll bring you a
clip for the Barbie movie on the
Sunday show. I because I'm
Barbie movie. Okay, the Barbie
movie and I couldn't get past
nine minutes of it.
Adam Curry: That's what you
said. So that that is automatic
disqualification. We're not
going to watch it here in Texas
John C Dvorak: is but I will say
this and I've said it to you
before. Art Director and set
designers. Oscars. Yeah, sure.
Of course. They really went out
of their way. But the whole
thing starts off it pretty much
tells you at the beginning.
That's a commercial for Mattel.
And it just plugs every Mattel
product they have and it's just,
it's lame. It's a lame movie.
Who
Adam Curry: was it? They said
Ryan? What's his name?
John C Dvorak: Brian. I know
Ryan's Yes. One of these guys.
Gosling is
Adam Curry: it? No, it's Ryan
Reynolds. What's his name?
John C Dvorak: I think my No,
no, it's one of the it's one of
the Ryan's a Ryan
Adam Curry: you know what would
have made it a winner should
have gone was the Lenski. Lenski
as Ken would have been good. I
would have Gosling I think it
John C Dvorak: was short list
because only five were five two.
Ah,
Adam Curry: all right. I have
something of more interest
because it's time it's time.
Here we go.
Unknown: Oh in preparedness for
potential cyber pandemic. Clorox
says a cyber attack has left the
company facing supply shortages.
According to a government
filing. The company detected a
breach last month. The source
remains unclear. Clorox Clorox
has not said which of its brands
are being affected, and the
recent cyber attack against MGM
Resorts is reported. costing the
company up to $8 million per
day. Reports say some
operations, including the
payment of gambling winnings are
still being affected yesterday.
Adam Curry: What do you think
it'd be next? What what next?
Now we're affecting people's
lives have always said, You've
got to infect Facebook, or x or
something like that. You've got
to infect something that people
will tick tock.
John C Dvorak: We're assuming
that these are criminals, and
they're doing it to make money.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to top
doing it to the casinos.
Adam Curry: How about Clorox
though? And what is what does
that even mean?
John C Dvorak: If it affects the
Clorox thing sounds less like a
ransomware thing. Then there's
just some sort of screw up
Adam Curry: now some broke down
John C Dvorak: something but
they've always been pretty savvy
technology wise. So I don't know
what happened at Clorox. And
it's not like, I don't know. I
don't get the Clorox thing
either.
Adam Curry: Here's a weird
report. Very weird report.
John C Dvorak: I have the
weirdest story that I don't know
if you know about it about the
Canada versus India thing.
Adam Curry: Yes, I've read about
it. I have read about it. I
don't know much about it. So I'm
glad. I'm glad you have here's a
clip. Okay, Canada versus India.
odd story.
Unknown: The situation between
India and Canada is becoming
more tense. India is now telling
its citizens to practice utmost
caution. When traveling to
America's neighbor to the north.
New Delhi is telling Indians to
be cautious because of growing
anti India activities and
politically condoned hate crimes
in Canada. The Canadian public
safety Minister responded saying
Canada is just conducting
inappropriate criminal
investigation. That country is
investigating if India was
involved in an assassination in
June, a leading Sikh activist
and Canadian citizen was gunned
down in British Columbia. He was
working on an unofficial
referendum vote and dia has long
accused him of links to
terrorism, just as we both India
and Canada expelled diplomats
from their respective countries.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's
weird.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And they
got all they're all bent out of
shape. And the diplomats have
been kicked out of both
countries. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but
you know, I don't think you can
have I mean, we don't like it
when some foreign agent comes
over and shoes whether they're
allowed.
Adam Curry: No, it's not done in
diplomatic circles. It's it
shouldn't be done. It's
considered improper.
John C Dvorak: Now the Russians
poisoning people in England, you
know, these these expats?
Adam Curry: I do like what, what
what Trudeau was on now,
because, you know, of course, in
the socialist country of Conoco
Stan. Tab, they have all kinds
of problems. They have the same
inflation issues we have and
then we have to blame somebody.
So Trudeau decided to blame the
supermarket's. It's not okay,
it's not okay. He's our
Unknown: biggest grocery stores
are making record profits, while
Canadians are struggling to put
food on the table. So Minister
champagne will be calling on the
heads of large grocers to come
to Ottawa with a plan to address
the rising cost of food. And we
expect to hear from them by
Thanksgiving, on what their plan
is to stabilize prices. Yeah.
stabilize prices.
And let
me be very clear,
if their plan doesn't provide
real relief for the middle class
and people working hard to join
it, then we will take further
action and we are not ruling
anything out including tax
measures.
Adam Curry: So won't that just
jack the prices up even further?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it makes it
worse. This is price control is
this typical? Price controls
never work and especially in
this in a capitalist system. It
makes it screws things up
royally and discusses the big
screw up. Did you notice? Notice
this thing he's introduced a new
term he was complaining about
some protests going on about you
know, especially about the
people purchasing them in the
schools
Adam Curry: yes the million
million person March Yes.
John C Dvorak: And so he says
this these people are just
transphobic yeah, oh yeah.
homophobic and homophobic and a
new term? Which I think is just
giving it away for what he is by
phobic. No. Yes by Bly phobic by
phobic by phobic EBRT you buy
you buy by phobic battle maybe
you know he's he's a bisexual.
Yeah leader. I
Adam Curry: know what he is.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: it were if we if
that and he so he's decided to
make by phobia some sort of a
thing. Was not back to
Adam Curry: the grocery store.
Chicago has taken it one step
further though, since you know
everyone's leaves there's like
San Francisco all stores are
leaving Chicago no one wants to
operate there. It's a mess is to
get robbed. So now Chicago Mayor
Brandon Johnson will explore the
possibility of a city owned
grocery store.
John C Dvorak: So pull up to
talk about socialist yes,
Adam Curry: if we're better than
Canada now. A better stronger
safer future is one where our
youth in our communities have
access to the tools and
resources they need to thrive.
My administration,
John C Dvorak: people know how
hard it is to run. Grocery
stores is one of the hardest
it's like, not as bad as the
restaurant business but pretty
close. Have you run us razor
thin margins?
Adam Curry: You know what food
lines? That's what you're gonna
get food lines. People standing
in line for toilet paper in
John C Dvorak: Chicago? Yeah.
Right.
Adam Curry: This is not right.
It's not right.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, man. Vermox
Vermox. Yes. It was at the round
table. Yes. Vermox. It's an it's
an anti worm medication prevents
newly hatched insect larva,
worms from growing or
multiplying in your body, your
fault.
Adam Curry: I don't know if you
saw this. But now, Sam Backman.
Fried's parents are being sued
for millions in misappropriated
funds. Have you seen his mom
coming out of the courthouse?
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God didn't
see anything recently. But she's
she's
Adam Curry: just just do fried
courthouse and look at her. So
as it turns out, they coerce
this, this kid and I'll just
call him a kid and an autist
into sending them 10s of
millions of dollars, putting
them on salary as advisors. His
dad even sent in the old all
it's all coming out in Discovery
now his and these are the to
Stanford economic professors.
Yeah, you know it just to show
you how corrupt this whole thing
is. And she then funneled
millions of dollars to the Mind
the Gap. Super PAC, which she's
created.
John C Dvorak: And it looks like
Keith Richards
Adam Curry: Yes, she does look
like Keith Richards. You're
right. That's being that's being
unkind to Keith. They funneled
over $20 million to Democrats.
So direct connection for Direct
Connection from FTX through the
parents down to the Silicon
Valley, super PAC, which
includes all the typical
douchebags. I mean, these people
should all go to jail for this.
I mean, I agree that they
should. It really is it really
is egregious what they've done.
See, Oh, yes. Well, I do have a
couple of things that I'd like
to mention. Actually, I have a
couple clips. First, let's do
some political stuff. Bobby, the
app back in the news, had a
fundraiser $2.2 million in one
night. Not bad. Who was the
superstar performer on deck?
Eric Clapton.
Unknown: Hi, Robert. Hi,
everybody. I just want to say
I'm looking forward to seeing
you soon. At this gig. full
truth, unity, peace and
posterity with the candidate. I
see you soon. Bye.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Go Kennedy
team.
John C Dvorak: He was virus
vaccine injured? Yes. We know,
almost lost his ability to play
the guitar. Did he actually last
a while but he got it back.
Adam Curry: And Ted Cruz.
Normally, I wouldn't play
anything from the Ted Cruz
podcast. But he laid out a
couple of possibilities. Should
Joe not be available? And here's
the first is these are short
clips, but they're worth
listening to.
John C Dvorak: So there are two
scenarios in which Joe Biden is
not the nominee, I believe,
number one, the powers that be
in the Democrat Party convinced
Joe Biden to pull out if that
happens, I think it's a free for
all. I think a bunch of people
get in. I think the top four
Democrats who get in are Kamala
Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin
Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.
And I think all four of them get
in I think Gretchen Whitmer
probably gets in as well. I
think there are some others that
get it and I think you probably
get five to 10 candidates who
jump in the instant Biden is out
now in my view, the top tier or
the first four I listed. And I
think in that primary, I believe
Elizabeth Warren wins that
primary.
Adam Curry: interesting take.
Let's listen to the Elizabeth
Warren Gambit. According to
Senator Cruz,
John C Dvorak: that's scenario
one. Elizabeth Warren comes out
of a wide open real Democrat
primary now thing about it is
you're running out of time. So
I'll give you some some
deadlines. October 16, is the
filing deadline for major party
candidates in Nevada. November
10, is the filing deadline for
major party candidates out
Alabama. November 14, is the
filing deadline for major party
candidates in Arkansas. So we're
starting to get to filing
deadlines where it becomes
exceedingly difficult to get on
the ballot. And so if this
scenario happens, it has to
happen fast.
Adam Curry: Well, even Ted
doesn't think that's going to
happen. There's a
John C Dvorak: second scenario.
Here it comes in this scenario,
I think is more likely and a
heck of a lot more dangerous,
which is fast forward to next
year. Fast forward to the
Democrat National Convention.
It's going to be in Chicago,
Illinois, and it is August 19.
Through 22nd, we get to August
of next year. And number one,
Biden's mental diminishment has
gotten even worse, and it
becomes obvious to anyone that
he can't find his shoes and
Democrats decide okay, all of
this downside is really worrying
us, then the convention is the
opportunity to parachute someone
in, you parachute someone in by
having some some story that for
health reasons, Biden's not able
to continue. What did they do,
then? Well, the natural thing to
say would be okay, it'll be one
of those top four. And here's
the problem. Whoever they pick
is a problem. They pick Kamala
Harris. She's the Vice
President, in some ways, the
natural choice. All of the
downsides of Kamala Harris make
that a really dangerous choice.
Yes. If they pick Gavin Newsom,
that makes some California
Democrats happy. The problem is
you're replacing an African
American woman to the Democrat
party with a very rich white
guy. You want to talk about a
recipe for discontent. That's a
big problem. They could go with
Pete Buttigieg, another white
guy, rich liberals would really
like Pete Buttigieg. And a lot
of the Democrat donors are gay
and lesbian. That's a major
chunk of the funding stream for
a Democrat candidate. But you
have the same problem. If you
jettison an African American
woman as Vice President, for a
white guy in the Democratic
primary, you're really asking
for trouble and option for us is
Elizabeth Warren. But you have
the same everyone else who
doesn't get it. I think anyone
they go with as a coronation.
It's different than an open
primary, where Warren wins
because primary voters vote for
that gives an element of
legitimacy that the people who
don't win can live with, if it's
just the kingmakers, saying, No,
we pick you. Whoever doesn't get
picked. Everyone else is pissed.
So here's the scenario that I
think is perhaps most likely and
most dangerous in August of
2020. For the Democrat
kingmakers jettison Joe Biden
and parachute in Michelle Obama.
Yeah, brother, you take a shaggy
dog story you pulled off.
Michelle Obama. Number one, you
don't infuriate African American
women, which is a critical part
of the constituency that
Democrats are relying on to win.
But number two, you avoid the
problem for you pick from any of
the four the other three are
pissed because they're all to
some extent, peers, their
rivals, they're all jab and
knives at each other. Michelle
Obama because she was first lady
has the ability to kind of
parachute in above all four and
say, Hey, we're not picking
among any of you. You guys can
all fight it out next time.
You're all going to be on the
same level. We're coming. This
is the Obama's saving the day.
And I think in terms of a
solution that unifies Democrats,
there ain't nothing like that.
Adam Curry: He's not a dummy. So
I'm just
John C Dvorak: gonna do a Texas
water.
Adam Curry: It would be fun if
you said Big Mike 2024 But he
won't do that. Is that may
explain why they're just letting
good old Joe hobble along.
John C Dvorak: Keep moving.
Definitely. Joe did put a poison
pill in place with Kamla.
Harris.
Adam Curry: Yes, very smart.
Very astute.
John C Dvorak: Very well done.
Adam Curry: Very astute. Just
astute. We have a little bit of
insight into the AI meeting. You
know, the the smartest people on
the planet. all got together in
a secret meeting with the Senate
with Schumer Warner. And we had
a we had a chat and we're going
to save the world. Thank you,
Elon. Thank you. Sundar. Thank
you. Who else do we have?
John C Dvorak: Gates was there.
Adam Curry: Bill? Thank you.
Thank you. I
John C Dvorak: think I think
Cook was there. Tom Collins
Adam Curry: I think I don't
think he was there. I don't
think he has an AI play. He
probably feels above those guys.
Anyway, Mark Warner, that's
John C Dvorak: probably true no
matter what.
Adam Curry: Mark Warner is a
Democrat Senator from Virginia,
at worst, and it's kind of what
we expected. We
Unknown: turn now to Virginia
Democrat Mark Warner. He is the
chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee. Great to
have you here. You have been
very active on artificial
intelligence. And we talked
about that I'm so
Adam Curry: active. This
morning, I was active on
artificial intelligence, I was
running around in circles like
AIs.
Unknown: Back in January,
Microsoft just announced a few
days ago that China has a new
capability to automatically
generate images for use and
influence operations to mimic
American voters across the
political spectrum and create
controversy along racial,
economic and ideological lines.
How much of a risk is this rush
to our upcoming election?
It's an enormous risk,
Adam Curry: no enormous risk.
Oh, my God, China's go ape is
not Russia. It's China.
Unknown: And artificial
intelligence. I've spent as much
time on this, I think is any
member of the Senate. No, which
means
Adam Curry: you don't know crap.
That
John C Dvorak: means you can't
figure out how to make this
thing work.
Adam Curry: It doesn't work.
It's no good.
Unknown: And I never spent
something where the more time I
spend in certain ways, the more
confused I get got well, that
Adam Curry: that we believe the
whole
Unknown: economics around these
large language models, which
used to be who had the most data
who had the most compute power
would when that fundamentally
changed after Facebook released
its so called llama model into
the wild.
Adam Curry: So he's saying he's
the truth is here. Facebook
released the llama models into
the wild. And I actually don't
know why they did it. But I'm
appreciative because now even I
can sit at home and can see that
it doesn't work. It's no good.
It's completely bogus. Yeah,
maybe you can have a bigger
computer get the answer faster.
But it's still the same models.
It's not impressive. That
fundamentally
Unknown: changed after Facebook
released its so called llama
model into the wild. In the
spring. We just had a major
session leader Schumer put
together had the kind of the
who's who in the room. And what
what I'm concerned about is even
the the AI leaders who say they
want rules guardrails. I'm
concerned that when you actually
put words on paper, will those
major tech companies support
that because you've seen we in
social media have done zero? Now
in terms of China, China is a
major player in AI. And where I
think we ought to start is by
getting rid of tick tock where
AI tools whether it comes from
China or domestically could have
the most immediate effect would
be the public space in our
elections right which Microsoft
has decided to legislate Hear me
out on this but the other area
beyond elections is Faith in Our
public markets. These same tools
could completely disrupt the
confidence in our public markets
by using the same deep fake tool
so I believe we ought to start
alliances What's that?
John C Dvorak: A change from
simple AI to deep fake
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, this
this is why it's there all over
the map. So it's, they'll lose
trust in our elections because
of deep fakes. Okay, that'll
really work. I mean, oh my god,
we'll be we'll be fooled for
eight seconds. It's like Yes,
like that. I mean, it really
eight seconds. Oh, but then our
public markets. What are we
talking about now? What is AI?
The public markets are already a
they're all algos all trading is
algorithmic, there's almost the
poor saps who are on stock
twits. They're fighting against
algorithms. This already like
this. I don't know what he's
talking about.
Unknown: Between the capitalist
and the small d Democrats. We
might at least get guardrails
coming in next year with the
elections and with the concern
about our markets, when I hear
Adam Curry: guardrails of the
markets thing that must just be
a red herring when I hear
guardrails, that means we want
to control what is being said.
John C Dvorak: We want to run it
during this censorship. thing.
Yes, we want
Adam Curry: to control what
Google results are. We want to
control but social media shows
Unknown: you're concerned not
just about spooking, you know,
the stock market, we're talking
about misleading people going
into an election spooking the
Adam Curry: stock. This is so
weird. In the same breath,
spooking the stock market. Wait
a minute. Is this is this a
signal
John C Dvorak: is that the stock
market's gonna get spooked
Adam Curry: that there's a crash
coming for some reason, and then
they can blame it on China AI.
John C Dvorak: It's gonna be
hard to pull off.
Unknown: We're talking about
misleading people going into an
election. Congress isn't going
to legislate ahead of the
election or that person is the
most difficult thing we've ever
this is why the notion of trying
to solve at all the bias
question To the whole question
around deep fakes the questions
around
Adam Curry: what questions are
there around deep fakes? At what
point has a deep fake actually
caused market disruption or an
election? Issue? Can you name
one? I have, I can't No, of
course not what's called
Unknown: hallucination where you
get answers that have no
relationship to what the
question was asked.
Adam Curry: It means what the
hallucination you can call who's
nation we just call it suck.
Unknown: But we ought to at
least start with some
guardrails, around trust in our
public elections and trust in
our public markets trust, there
are things we can move before
elections. I think it'll be
bipartisan. Let's start on that
framing point. I think we can
all agree that could be huge
disruption, and both of those
areas. And that's where I'm
focused my time.
Adam Curry: So so then the
interest of CBS, then the
interview goes in a slightly
different direction, which I
think may show some of the
concern from this Democrat.
Senator,
Unknown: you may have heard our
CVs polling there at the top of
the program. And one of the data
points I want to show you here
says when people compare their
finances now to how they were
before the pandemic, by two to
one, they say they're worse, not
better. And when they feel
worse, they tell us they're
voting for Donald Trump. Whoa.
Adam Curry: So let's just say I
don't know, like the markets are
going down and China use the
deep fakes and then that would
get Trump to be elected or
something. What are we doing
here, lady?
Unknown: How can President Biden
win over those voters?
Well, I think we've seen from
President Biden's actual record,
record amounts of job growth
coming again, after COVID. We've
seen major legislation there now
law in infrastructure and the so
called chip spill and transition
in our energy economy. And most
of that has only been about 10
cents on every dollar spent out.
So I think the positive effects
of that will really continue to
penetrate. I feel that that you
talk to I listen, I think there
is a general feeling. Oh my
gosh, everybody seems to be at
each other's throats here in
Washington. We, you know, the
notion that we're going to
potentially go into a government
shutdown, Mike Turner and I
worked very closely together.
But I do think I wish the House
leadership would be spending a
little more time on what would
happen with a government
shutdown which makes us look bad
around the world. And frankly,
in a state like mine in
Virginia, where we have so many
government workers government
contractors, it will be a
disaster net blah, blah, blah,
blah,
Adam Curry: blah. I just I just
thought it was interesting to go
from the AI into when when the
mark when when people's when the
economy is bad people vote for
Trump.
John C Dvorak: That was very
strange.
Adam Curry: And then weird.
That's
John C Dvorak: CBSs telling you
maybe that's a code for Okay, we
got Trump's been read and he's
one of us now we can we can
safely put him in office.
Adam Curry: He's good to go.
John C Dvorak: Good as possible.
Oh, man,
Adam Curry: I have an important
update. No, call it a comeback.
That's right. COVID is back. But
is it COVID? What is it? Can we
tell what it is? Oh, NBC help us
when it
Unknown: comes to COVID. Doctors
say it's becoming harder to
determine whether someone
actually has it.
John C Dvorak: 1000s of these
packs.
Unknown: When it comes to COVID
Doctors say it's becoming harder
to determine whether someone
actually has it that's because
the virus symptoms often overlap
with allergies or cold or other
respiratory illnesses.
Adam Curry: What happened to the
test? What happened to the test
with doctors can't tell if you
have COVID anymore?
Unknown: Yes. Now is NBC News
health reporter ARIA Bendix
Aria, I do recall earlier in the
pandemic, when people got COVID
It was you're losing your sense
of smell, right and taste. What
are the symptoms like now?
Yeah, so the most common
symptoms are the ones that we
commonly associate with other
respiratory illnesses. So that
might be sore throat,
congestion, sneezing, some
people are reporting a very
faint.
John C Dvorak: You remember the
early early days? The early
days, right? Right at the
beginning when we were on this
dose symptoms were never COVID
Oh, no, it's not you're not
gonna get the sniffles? It's not
gonna be like that.
Adam Curry: No, you'll
immediately have to go on a
ventilator is you must be
gasping for air.
John C Dvorak: No sneezing if
it's if you sneeze that's not
COVID it's definitely a sign of
not COVID I wish to get some of
those old clips I had them and
it especially put together some
fluid some of those kind of
fascinating how this is changed
now it's Bucha has reverted to
what it is common cold.
Adam Curry: Excuse me. Sorry.
Let's continue with this clip.
Because this is fascinating.
Doctors can't figure out what
this is. It's not COVID
Unknown: Oh, it's congestion.
Sneezing some people are
reporting a very faint sore
throat others say they feel some
scratching or burning akin to a
strep throat. And then a smaller
number of people reporting you
know your headaches, chills,
muscle aches, maybe a post nasal
drip, that can lead to a bit of
Adam Curry: Cough isn't that
cold or flu or a cold.
Unknown: But as you mentioned,
that dry cough we were seeing at
the beginning of the pandemic,
that loss of taste and smell,
even some of the
gastrointestinal issues we saw
early on, those have largely
gone away.
Yeah. BME beyond those things.
Is there
anything else that's different
about the virus now than it was
in the early days? Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: cold.
Unknown: Yeah, I know, we hear
about all these different
strains and mutations. And it's
really important for scientists
to pay attention to those split
from the public health
perspective, we are dealing with
the same variant that we have
since late 2021. That's the
Omicron variant that hasn't
gotten milder over time. But our
response to that variant has
changed, our immunity has
changed. Most people now have
what's called hybrid immunity,
which is immunity from
vaccination and a natural
infection. So when they're
exposed to that virus, their
bodies know how to fight it off,
and it results in a milder
illness. I should mention,
though, that that immunity does
wane so for older adults in
particular, it's important to
get these updated booster shots
as false so they can top off
that protects
point especially for the
immunocompromised, any
vulnerable communities to really
take the protections you need to
stay safe. Yeah, absolutely. All
right. Bendix. Thanks so much.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
Adam Curry: So you know, it's,
this is not COVID This is no
vid. They're lying. That just
lying. Isn't this No. COVID This
is a cold. Get a shot. Oh, and
by the way, people are going to
CVS and all the you know,
getting their shot, and all of a
sudden they go oh, here's a
$200. Bill what it was going to
be free. Yeah, surprise,
surprise. The insurance
companies like Nah, we're not.
We're not going to reimburse you
for that. Now. What a scam.
Absolute scam.
John C Dvorak: Well, I can go
out with to homeless clips. Oh,
that's good. Or let's skip that.
I'm gonna move those to Sunday.
I want to play this. This is
interesting. This is one of the
things Biden's managed to pull
off. No Democrats done it
before. They're not. Republicans
don't dare even try. And this is
the climate core thing. He's
come up with
Adam Curry: 20 20,000 kids now,
isn't it? What is this being
compared to?
John C Dvorak: This is Civilian
Conservation Corps during the
Depression? This is a depression
idea. The Works project
administration during the
depression like the New Deal, is
this the new dive? Yes, totally
new deal stuff. Now. I have
talked about why don't they do
this. I've said this for not on
the show so much because it
doesn't come up in the
conversation until now. But it's
always been the following
because I brought this up in in
discussions. No, no, no, no, we
can't do this. You This is not
something you can do. You can't
do these government programs
anymore, like Civilian
Conservation Corps, because it
takes union jobs away. That's
always the argument. No, no, no,
you can't do this taking real
paying union jobs away from real
pay union members. This is no
good. You can't do it. And it's
always been verboten. And now
all of a sudden we got this.
Unknown: The Biden
administration is announcing a
major climate initiative. It
will be the first of its kind in
the nation to train young
Americans for jobs in the
renewable energy industry.
The White House on Wednesday
announced the creation of
American Climate Corp. It's a
workforce initiative that will
pay 20,000 Young Americans to
get training for jobs in the
climate sector. The new core
will support a wide range of
jobs, including restoring
coastal wetlands, forest
management to help fight
wildfires and building out
renewable energy projects. no
prior experience is required to
apply for most programs. The
White House said in a statement
that the aims include quotes,
conserving our land and waters
bolstering community resilience,
advancing environmental justice,
deploying clean energy,
implementing energy efficient
technologies and tackling
climate change. initially
proposed as part of President
Biden's build back better
agenda, the program was stripped
out of the inflation Reduction
Act. Five states have already
launched their own climate core
programs. And additional five
also announced new programs on
Wednesday. The Secretary General
of the United Nations on the
same day called for more action
on fossil fuels. During the
speech at the UN climate
ambition summit in New York, he
asked nation said subsidies for
fossil fuels. Yeah,
Adam Curry: so the climate
justice part of that is mildly
concerning, because that means
you could have an army of 20,000
brown shirts. snooping around
yeah, what are you doing with
that? DOD? No,
John C Dvorak: it was they were
they keep a tab on everybody's
garbage
Adam Curry: bins on your lapins
the it's kind of sad that we do
this the very end of the show
because without a doubt in my
mind, the number one problem we
face is the theft. That is
climate change and Sustainable
Development Goals, which the
United Nations now says We need
more than 5 trillion a year.
California suing five the five
major oil companies like big
tobacco. All the states are
going to do this now. It's all
theft. They're thieving. Yeah,
they're
John C Dvorak: stealing money.
Adam Curry: They're stealing you
had two clips Was this the only
one of the two that's the
John C Dvorak: only one I had to
to cluster the homeless problem
in Sacramento.
Adam Curry: Right right. I was
just thinking if I could add to
your climate change maybe we
just do the we're
John C Dvorak: good. The scope
we're good. Okay.
Adam Curry: We're good. Anyone
can call it you called it we're
good. We're totally good. And
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