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1594: Gene Jock

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John C Dvorak: Now we know I just said now don't worry about
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it. Adam curry,
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Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak. Thursday, September 28 2023.
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This is your award winning combination media assassination
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episode 1594. This
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Unknown: is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: dodging the large language models and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Meridian
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number six in the morning, everybody.
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John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry, from Northern Silicon Valley
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where we've noticed they've gotten nuts in Canada. I'm John
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C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: This was this is the best the best thing that could
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have happened.
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John C Dvorak: Hey, you know, candidate wants to get more
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coverage on our show.
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Adam Curry: They'll do anything. There's it's absolutely the
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best. And we saw this happen. I keep I kept getting on notes
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from people. I'm like, well, we don't really have any reports.
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After that, because we deconstruct media. I'll just
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kick this. This off with two short ones from ABC. So here's
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here's earlier in the week, also in
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Unknown: Canada, an uproar after a former Nazi got a standing
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ovation in the Canadian Parliament. It all started when
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Ukraine's president spoke to lawmakers then the Speaker of
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the House praised a 98 year old Ukrainian man who once served in
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a Nazi unit accused of genocide. The man's past had apparently
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not been vetted the speaker apologize but is facing calls to
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resign. And then the next report there's new fallout after a
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former Nazi was invited to the Canadian Parliament and got a
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standing ovation. It happened while Ukraine's president was
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visiting the Speaker of the House who invited the 98 year
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old former Nazi from Ukraine has now resigned for not properly
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vetting that guest.
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John C Dvorak: Though I have I have the poignant clips,
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including three kind of chronological clips because
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Trudeau said one thing and it came out and said another thing
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and then he came into the front of the house. But what was wrong
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with that report? And it was that classic example of
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mishandled. He got to standing ovations, not one
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Adam Curry: who will get it Can I just say one thing? That whole
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parliament, everybody there should just be wiped away.
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They're all dumb. How dumb are these people? Don't you first of
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all, it's not the Russians. It was the Soviets. They're dumb.
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They're completely brainwashed and stupid.
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John C Dvorak: As I pointed out in the newsletter, and one of
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the photos, yes, these people giving the standing ovation,
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including a members of the military, high ranking members
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of the military that were sitting next to this guy
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clapping away like like, like train seals.
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Adam Curry: I mean, but literally, pans above their
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head, you know, like, oh, yeah, yeah, F Russia, F. Putin. Hello,
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dummies? Are they dumb? And I think you saw the speaker
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hesitate for a second he had like this. This little. I think
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he realized when he when he was reading us, fought against the
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Russians. That you could just see something in his brain
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John C Dvorak: I have that I have. All right. I'll let you I
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don't I didn't notice that. I thought he was just robotically
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reading the rules. And by the way, before we play any of these
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clips, I've got four of them. Oh, I think he was set up.
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There's no doubt in my mind that this whole thing was a setup to
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humiliate a Liberal Party.
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Adam Curry: Well, that worked. And they did some humiliation of
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their own later.
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John C Dvorak: Well, they're all parties that when they stood up
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and clapped the loudest, the guy who is the the Speaker of the
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House, not the speaker, but the head of the opposition is just
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all in on this war. You can tell when you hear him I've got I got
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a clip of him.
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Adam Curry: That's not a bad theory that you have there that
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this was set up not not to get rid of the speaker per se but to
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embarrass the the liberals in
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John C Dvorak: embarrassed both parties but embarrassed,
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embarrassed the Government of Canada. Yes. Yes. And how did it
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come to be? We've never got a full explanation supposedly. So
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speakers had a friend and somebody suggested it. This
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sounds like
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Adam Curry: it started with no, I noticed him in the gallery.
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Oh, boy. Look, there's my guy. Nine years old Nazi hunter. I
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mean, oops.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so we start with this is the truth as to how
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a Trudeau House Speaker is the trigger. This is the speech that
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highlighted him and got him. Two rounds of standing ovations. We
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have
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Unknown: here in the chamber today, Ukrainian Canadians,
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Ukrainian Canadian world veteran from the Second World War who
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fought the Ukrainian independence against the
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Russians and continues to support Troops today, even at
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his age of 98.
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Yeah, for 18 year old Canadian hero, and we thank him for all
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his service. Thank you
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Adam Curry: so that was true doe.
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John C Dvorak: No, no, no, that was the Speaker of the House.
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Okay.
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Adam Curry: I was confused. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: sound I know he sounds like him. Yeah, it could
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have been. I mean, the voice is almost identical. But no, that
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was not Trudeau. So here's Trudeau right after this happens
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is the first thing Trudeau does when he freaks out. And this is
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this is Trudeau. Nazi apology.
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Unknown: Obviously, it's extremely upsetting that this
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happened. The speaker speaker has acknowledged this mistake,
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and as apologized that this is something that is deeply
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embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada and by extension to
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all Canadians. I think particularly of Jewish MPs, and
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all members of the Jewish community across the country are
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celebrating or commemorating Yom Kippur today. I think it's going
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to be really important that all of us push back against Russian
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propaganda, Russian disinformation and continue our
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steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine, as we did
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last week, with announcing further measures to stand with
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Ukraine in Russia's illegal war against it.
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Adam Curry: Hey, happy Yom Kippur everybody and Russia bad.
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John C Dvorak: Had that with the devil in the end with the Russia
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disinformation?
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Adam Curry: That's how it ended? Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: You Yeah. Right. Well, so then he has to
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backtrack on that. Because he got a bunch of flack from before
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he goes in front of Parliament. We have producer Nicholas sent
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me this note with a timeline.
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Adam Curry: Wait, Nick sends you stuff to
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John C Dvorak: the Dizzy oh, these guys do this. They say
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they're all bipolar.
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Adam Curry: No, they send stuff to me. They send stuff to you. I
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mean, we do have some of the same clips which people you
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gotta be careful. If you send it to both of us, then send it
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often doesn't get played at all right? But that's only if we're
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both on the email. But they send it to you and send it to me
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separately, then we actually both wind up with the same
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clips. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. People did choose
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one. All right. So
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John C Dvorak: he goes on. He mentioned that a Polish
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Ambassador made a plea for an apology from the government that
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recognizes Polish grievances. And then I guess the rotor
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resigned rotor resigned after this clip we just heard you
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know, he says while he's still there, but then then he resigned
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afterwards and after resigned. We got the second version of the
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same apology by Trudeau. And this is Troodos Nazi revised
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apology. In this case, what he did was he took in everybody who
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felt aggrieved and even people who didn't feel aggrieved he put
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them on this list I'm I'm sorry to you and you when you're when
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you're when you
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Unknown: in a few moments, I will address the house in front
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of all Canadians in front of Jewish people here and around
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the world, and Ukrainians to offer Parliament's unreserved
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apologies for what happened on Friday. The speaker was solely
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responsible for the invitation and recognition of this man, and
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his wholly accepted that responsibility and stepped down.
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This was a mistake that has deeply embarrassed Parliament,
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and Canada. All of us who were in this House on Friday, regret
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deeply having stood and clapped. Even though we did so unaware of
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the context, it was a horrendous violation of the memory of the
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millions of people who died in the Holocaust. And it was
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deeply, deeply painful for Jewish people. It also hurt
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Polish people, Roma people next to us LGBTQI plus people,
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disabled people racialized people know many
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Adam Curry: No, no, stop. No, no, this is edited. This is
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edited. He did not say to spirit people, disabled people, did he?
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John C Dvorak: Yes. No, not edited. Believe me.
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Adam Curry: This is This is crazy. Let me hear this again.
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Unknown: And it was deeply, deeply painful for Jewish
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people. It also hurt Polish people, Roma people, to s LGBTQI
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plus people, disabled people racialized people, and the many
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millions who were targeted by the Nazi genocide.
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Adam Curry: Nicolas, you're off my list. I can't believe you
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gave that clip to John.
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John C Dvorak: No, he didn't give me any clips.
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Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I'm sorry. All right. He's back on the
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list. This is dynamite. In fact, I gotta give this to you right
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away. I mean, if you told me that was Aya To believe the two
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John C Dvorak: that's crazy. Even no nonsense
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Adam Curry: going after two spirited people really? We had
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two spirits back in the day.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, everything in between. Wow. So So then he
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goes to Parliament.
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Adam Curry: How about dwarfs? We should have had the dwarfs
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John C Dvorak: you right because divorce would have been on the
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list it gypsies gotta go back and redo this. You said Roma
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Adam Curry: so well, you just said gypsies anyway, I'm sorry.
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I'll be quiet now. That's crazy. What an idiot.
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John C Dvorak: So then he goes to so the guy that headed the
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opposition to who's Pierre Irish last name is. I had it written
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down I put it it's on the other desk. But it's a it's an
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interesting name. Poly poly poly a or something. Yeah. But the
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poly. I think that Paul and so he condemns Trudeau and then
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Trudeau comes in in doubt, you hear the apology, the official
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apology in front of Parliament, and it's lame.
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Unknown: It was the personal responsibility of the Prime
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Minister to invite President Solinsky to the floor of this
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House of Commons. It was his personal responsibility to make
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sure it was a diplomatic success. It was his personal
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responsibility to continue to lead the government that has the
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security, intelligence and diplomatic agencies that could
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have and should have vetted all individuals who were present and
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recognized. Yet this Prime Minister allowed for a
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monumental, unprecedented and global shame to unfold in this
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chamber. Will he take personal responsibility for this shame
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and personally apologize on behalf of himself.
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Right Honorable Prime Minister.
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On behalf of all of us in this house, I would like to present
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apologies, place on Friday, and to President Solinsky and the
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Ukrainian delegation for the position they were put in for
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all of us who were present to have unknowingly recognized this
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individual was a terrible mistake and a violation of the
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memory of those who suffered grievously at the hands of the
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Nazi regime.
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Adam Curry: Oh, Canada,
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John C Dvorak: I love you. So. So that was that and so we have
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one more go around. This is obviously question time they do
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this in England, they do it in Canada. And here he comes back
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up and to say to ask, receiving clarified a little bit nothing,
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he gets nothing. And I could have gone on longer with this.
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But this will be the final clip because it's just the ends
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pretty much ends here with Trudeau apologizing on behalf of
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everybody not himself
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Unknown: out of the leader of the official opposition.
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Did the Prime Minister's national security, intelligence
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or diplomatic officials that the names of the people that the
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Prime Minister allowed within mere feet of President Solinsky?
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Right Honorable Prime Minister.
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Mr. Speaker, the privilege and responsibilities and rights of
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parliamentarians are sacrosanct, and that the leader of the
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opposition would be suggesting that any visitor to this house
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should be vetted by the government of the day is
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actually a grievous attack on the rights and privileges of
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parliamentarians. The leader of the opposition or the speaker
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anyone wants our intelligence agencies to vet any of their
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guests. We would be more more than happy to do that in respect
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of parliamentary rights.
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Adam Curry: The Honorable leader the Official Opposition. Well,
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there's one thing for sure, is this distracted from the former
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Indian diplomat who claimed that true dose playing at the recent
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G 20 meeting was full of cocaine. You hear
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John C Dvorak: about this? No, I missed that way. So it obviously
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did distract good work.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, it totally distract from that there was one
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thing that was fun. One of the Canadian liberals from the from
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the Liberal Party, jumped up and suggested the following.
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Unknown: I would like to ask for unanimous consent to adopt the
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following motion, that notwithstanding any standing
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orders, special order or usual practice of the house, the
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recognition made by the Speaker of the House of an individual
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present in the galleries. During the joint address to Parliament
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by His Excellency, bloody Mirza Lenski struck from the appendix
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of the House of Commons debates of Thursday, September 21 2023.
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And from any house multimedia recording,
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Adam Curry: they want it they want
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John C Dvorak: erased by the way, this was semi scandalous
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that she did this course it is.
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Adam Curry: That's insane. Oh, we got to delete it, get rid of
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it. Now what isn't happening? What should happen from this and
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you know, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, of course they were all
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over Twitter X. You know, like, Oh, this is criticism, say and
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this is no good. I mean, I think that's where your setup was. But
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they need to go a step further. Where's the AES off brigade?
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This is the moment to bring it in. Hey, there's still a lot of
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Nazi sentiment over there. There's there's people fighting
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on behalf of the Ukrainian army who have swastikas tattooed on
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their body and are very much in line with World War Two Nazis.
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Yeah, that horse but who? Why isn't anyone picking that up?
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John C Dvorak: Oh, slow down to the money. Well, my speaking of
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you trying to do you on
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Adam Curry: let's go to 60 minutes and talk about the
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money.
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Unknown: The US has spent just over $43 billion on military aid
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to Ukraine since Russia invaded.
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Adam Curry: I think it's more than that, isn't it? Was it was
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that maybe just the military aid? And this
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John C Dvorak: is yeah, this is a number that the real number is
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over a trillion?
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Adam Curry: A trillion? Yeah, really?
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John C Dvorak: I believe it's I believe this.
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Adam Curry: That's new to me. I've heard 150 billion I've
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heard. But a trillion Nah, no, I
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John C Dvorak: think is what I think. Yeah. With a T. Tank. I'm
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pretty sure I could be I mean, it's not. It's not 1.3 billion.
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It just got to be? No, if it's 1.3. Anything. It's
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Adam Curry: not what point it's 100. And I understand to be 143
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billion. She's saying 40 something billion. A trillion is
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this 1000 billion? That's a lot. That's a lot
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John C Dvorak: with the nutmeg. Point is, I think the point is,
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it's a fluctuating number that nobody seems to have a handle
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on. The point is, if somebody wants a handle on the number of
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Rand Paul, yeah, they say now we know I just said now don't worry
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about it.
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Adam Curry: We got it. Well, hey, AI, check it out. Don't
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worry, we're gonna figure it all out.
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Unknown: That's equivalent to about 5% of the American defense
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budget. European countries combined have contributed around
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30 billion American rocket launchers are now reaching deep
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into Russian occupied Ukraine. And the Patriot air defense
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system is shielding millions of Ukrainian civilians from air
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strikes. American taxpayers are financing more than just
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weapons. Oh, we discovered the US government's buying seeds and
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fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of
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Ukraine's first responders, all 57,000 of them. Russia's
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invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third. We
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were surprised to find that to keep it afloat. The US
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government is subsidizing small businesses. In total, America
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has pumped nearly $25 billion of non military aid into Ukraine's
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economy since the invasion began.
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Adam Curry: So I consider this to be a hit piece on the on this
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whole phony baloney setup that we're paying for it is 60
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minutes. So that's the CIA broadcasting systems if we
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believe Seymour Hersh and I have no reason not to, there is an
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internal conflict or a conflict between CIA and the DIA Defense
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Intelligence Agency. We talked about in the last show, CIA is
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saying everyone's dead. There's no one fighting back. There's no
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war. Just it's over. It's effectively over at DIA, you go
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into far. You got your money, you got your 143 whatever it is
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billion stop. And of course, they're not stopping. So I think
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this is a hit piece. That may be that may become more clear in
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the third clip, here's two.
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Unknown: And you can see it working at the bustling Farmers
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Market on John McCain Street.
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Adam Curry: Natural keys. Are you starting to get you're
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starting to get the idea? John McCain streets of Ukraine.
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Unknown: This is your moment. The late senator is revered in
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Ukraine, because he pushed the US government to start sending
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arms to the country after Russia first invaded back in 2014.
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While in Kyiv, we learned that three of McCain's former
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colleagues were also in town, Democratic senators Elizabeth
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Warren and Richard Blumenthal, and Republican Senator Lindsey
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Graham.
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Adam Curry: It's a cool takedown because it's taking down the
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Republicans, which is also correct, because these people
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are evil.
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Unknown: They don't normally agree on much together though.
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They're some of the staunchest supporters of us funding for
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Ukraine's resistance.
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They're on track To break the Russian army, and the only way
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they could possibly lose is if we pulled the plug on.
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The wreckage of Russia's war machine was on display for
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Ukraine's independence day celebrations, even as almost a
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fifth of the country remains under occupation.
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People ask me, is it worth it? Here's what we've gotten for our
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investment. We haven't lost one soldier. We've reduced the
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combat power of the Russian army by 50%. And not one of us has
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died in that endeavor. This is a great deal for America when
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Adam Curry: he says not one of us that he's talking about not
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one of the senators, obviously, you've previously
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Unknown: said that it's the best money we've ever spent. That's
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still true.
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Since we help Churchill stand up to the Nazis do.
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We have to have confidence.
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John C Dvorak: By the way, the logic of all this is just
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fascinating.
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Adam Curry: People have no knowledge of history. You see,
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Canadian Parliament,
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John C Dvorak: was it was it besides that? I mean, this the
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illogic of Well, we were running a war, but we haven't lost any
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soldiers. So that's great. As as people are dying by the hundreds
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by the 1000s.
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Adam Curry: But the Ukrainians, they don't count. See, it's a
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real
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John C Dvorak: it's a very patronizing, kind of, it's sick.
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It's basically sick.
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Adam Curry: Yes, I agree.
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Unknown: We have to have confidence that the dollars
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we're spending are actually being spent in defense of the
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nation. All of that is important. But that's
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Adam Curry: what we just heard that they're not they're not
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being spent in defense of the nation. They're being spent to
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keep small businesses afloat. All kinds of other stuff,
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Unknown: but that's why we're here. Senators and other US
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officials told us there have been no substantiated cases of
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American weapons being diverted. Okay,
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Adam Curry: but then CBS 60 minutes throws this out.
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Unknown: But Ukraine is a young democracy with a history of
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corruption. According to the monitoring group Transparency
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International, it's ranked the second most corrupt country in
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Europe, only Russia scores lower. An American hotline for
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Ukrainians to report misuse of assistance from USAID saw a
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tenfold increase when these posters went up across the
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country earlier this year. American officials are now
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investigating for criminal cases involving non military aid. And
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170. Ukrainian government officials, including high
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ranking military officers have been charged in corruption cases
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so far this year, for crimes like embezzlement and accepting
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bribes. Ukraine is losing us weapons on the battlefield. But
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Lieutenant shoshan told us that's the only way they're
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losing them. Has anything gone missing?
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In my situation in my company in our battalion, I don't know the
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case like this.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I think this is the setup. This
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is a bit of a hit piece. It's like no, no, you guys are over
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there. The unit party this corruption. You know, this is
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what the you know, we're also funding their whole economy.
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Apparently, we can't fund our own economy. Now this is what
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gets people riled up and people get mad about this stuff. So it
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feels to me like CBS CIA broadcast
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John C Dvorak: does have a funny feeling because that's where he
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is. And that's why the Lindsey Graham thing triggered me
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because it's like, why would you put that in there in the first
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place? You you make your you bring it this is a common way of
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doing it. You bring in a person who acts despicable, which is
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exactly what he did. Yeah. And and present him out. Hey, look
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at this. And then so it gets everybody to despise him.
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Because it's like a despicable thing to say what he did what he
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said
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Adam Curry: and he's, he's already so disposable.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, very despised, disposable,
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disposable.
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Adam Curry: So then more CBS
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John C Dvorak: you do that. Anyway, the point is, you do
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that on purpose. Yes.
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Adam Curry: Oh, completely. Towards the kids would say 100%.
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So now we go to CBS Face the Nation. And let's rile people up
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a little more
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Unknown: Ukrainian president Zelensky and his wife Elena
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visited Washington last week to press the case for more US
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assistance in Ukraine's fight against the Russian invasion. We
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spoke with the First Lady during their visit with the aid of
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Ukrainian government interpreter. We began by asking
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her about what life is like for Ukrainian children.
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Adam Curry: By the way, I don't think Margaret Brennan, who's
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you know, the news model in this case, I don't think she's really
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aware that she's helping the demise of the narrative here.
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Unknown: greenskin today, unfortunately, only 1/3 of
24:54
Ukrainian children can now attend schools Mr. bhootish call
24:57
on this because our schools have to decide It's safe to be
25:00
located in safe areas. She does eat and falls with bomb
25:05
shelters, and my foundation continuous fundraising
25:10
John C Dvorak: staff again, another little tidbit here in
25:14
terms of the very I'm going to go along with your whole thesis.
25:19
So if you're going to use these mechanisms to do a hit piece and
25:22
then compound it with the with the Margaret Brennan show. There
25:27
are a lot of different people that you can have do the
25:29
translation. Yes, but they have some sad sack. Come on with this
25:34
pathetic voice. You don't need that you can have an uptempo
25:39
lifting, you know, a kind of a positive spirited person doing
25:43
the translations as someone who sounds like she's gonna start to
25:47
cry in a second. That's done for another that's also done
25:51
purposefully. Can we find a translator hay bale? Can we find
25:55
a translator? Sounds so sad.
25:59
Adam Curry: Yeah. And it's so I think when you air these these
26:06
answers, but I think people at home just Joe Oh, let me say at
26:10
six pack, sent home going through our school suck. What?
26:15
She's not wearing, you know, fatigues. Like, like Volodymyr.
26:21
You know, she's she's, she's she's dressed nicely. She's you
26:24
know, she's she was in vogue. This is him. This is shades of
26:28
dip like the Assad woman. Yeah, yeah. The Assad fee which they
26:34
also took down so empty, like, and then it's her foundation.
26:37
What? What, what, what not giving money to your foundation.
26:41
It's one thing to give money to the country, to the military. I
26:45
can even kind of see the emergency services. But now we
26:48
got to give to your foundation. What is this? Why it makes no
26:52
sense.
26:53
John C Dvorak: Clinton Foundation, thank you.
26:54
Unknown: Our schools have to be safe, safe to be located in safe
26:58
areas. And we need schools with bomb shelters, and my foundation
27:04
continuous fundraising resources of less to ensure that we have
27:09
comfortable bomb shelters in all Ukrainian schools are
27:13
Adam Curry: comfortable bomb shelters. When it comfortable
27:16
bomb shelters, you know, our kids need to be comfortable.
27:19
Well, the
27:19
Unknown: rest of Ukrainian children two thirds continue. Go
27:24
into school online. Because they live in the frontline areas.
27:30
Many children left Ukraine they live abroad, and they call it
27:35
when children were leaving Ukraine.
27:38
Adam Curry: By the way this is that there's a mistake here that
27:41
they're making or it's purposeful. Well, we kept
27:44
hearing was the Russians kidnapped 10s of 1000s of
27:46
children. The Russians kidnapped him now we're hearing something
27:51
else.
27:52
John C Dvorak: Well, there was wait. Let's take the side the
27:56
side of the narrative, if you must. There was a lot of
28:02
complaining about the Russians kidnapping the kids out of the
28:04
Donbass in that area. But the other kids, there's still a
28:07
shitload and probably more kids that like fled to in the early
28:11
days fled to Germany.
28:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, all those places. Yeah.
28:16
John C Dvorak: So I don't think it's inaccurate. Most
28:19
something's
28:19
Adam Curry: off about this whole interview.
28:21
Unknown: Frontline areas. Many children left Ukraine they live
28:26
abroad.
28:27
Adam Curry: That's your frontline, the frontline areas
28:29
that's the Donbass region, many of them live abroad. What
28:32
happened to the kidnapped by Russia narrative it should be in
28:35
here if it wasn't anti Russia, if
28:37
John C Dvorak: they're gonna talk about if she's gonna drop
28:39
the front line. There's no kids around any of that area
28:43
Unknown: and they collude. When children were leaving Ukraine.
28:47
Sometimes they could undertake the documents with them and left
28:51
everything behind the wall that is white, both children and
28:56
teachers require laptops, iPads to continue iPads education and
29:05
we receive a lot of support including from our American
29:09
partners. What
29:10
Adam Curry: they need iPads,
29:12
John C Dvorak: nobody needs an iPad,
29:14
Adam Curry: they need iPads. Send your money to my
29:18
foundation, the kids need iPads. Say and what anyway, Face the
29:24
Nation then put this in because the last bit we're sending is
29:30
the tactical missiles. The ones that have some reach
29:34
Unknown: we go now to Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly he
29:37
is in Austin, Texas double whammy this morning. CBS has
29:41
confirmed that President Biden in his meeting with President
29:44
Zelensky said he would provide Ukraine with attack homes these
29:48
are these longer range surface to surface missile systems that
29:51
would allow them to hit behind Russian lines. The Ukrainians
29:54
have been asking for months for these systems. Whether it was
29:59
the F six As the attack comes now Are you frustrated at how
30:04
long leading the witness it takes for approval to happen for
30:08
these systems?
30:10
Yeah, this conflict been going on for a year and a half now.
30:13
And in the beginning we provided artillery ammunition eventually
30:18
high Mars F six teams are not like other weapons systems
30:22
they're complicated you have to train pilots you have to train
30:24
maintainers I worked with the administration on that we've
30:29
gotten them cluster weapons now Yeah, attack comes is an
30:31
additional capability. There were some issues we had to work
30:35
through. They've been you know stressing the need for this over
30:41
over a period of time now and we're at the point that we're
30:44
going to provide them this capability and I think it's
30:45
going to be helpful
30:46
what restriction should there be you know, why the apprehension
30:50
for so long
30:52
well I'm an artillery shell goes about 80 miles so to attack them
30:55
missile goes about 190 miles so there was concern where and
31:01
against what targets would they use them we don't want this to
31:05
escalate but we're at the spot right now where they needed to
31:08
do it capability to maintain some more progress the progress
31:13
on this counter offensive it's been good you know, I talked to
31:16
Ukrainian commanders there are things that are you know,
31:20
starting to provide some you know, problems but we're making
31:23
progress there.
31:24
Adam Curry: What does that mean? I think they set him up all
31:28
right, you're you're in charge of that so whatever happens with
31:30
those attack comes with a cool name. acronym but attackers
31:35
whatever happens yeah, some problems but it's okay now,
31:40
meanwhile, reports that 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers have
31:44
surrendered to the Russians using the special Volga
31:47
frequency which is 149.2 megahertz, which you can you can
31:53
basically get on your, on your hands but what are the what are
31:58
those $25 radios we still be used to start we started off
32:01
with you have one in your desk drawer.
32:05
John C Dvorak: I have one I have a couple of laying around.
32:07
Adam Curry: What's the cheapo called again? named my fan I
32:12
think her bio bio Feng Bao
32:15
John C Dvorak: Bao for Chinese, Chinese. And they then they're
32:18
good. Yeah. Bao Fang. Yeah, follow Fang. They the batteries
32:23
last forever. I don't know how that works.
32:25
Adam Curry: So now they have a frequency 149.2 megahertz you
32:29
just call and say Hey, want to surrender? It's over,
32:35
John C Dvorak: probably using that particular gear. And of
32:38
course,
32:39
Adam Curry: of course. Now I'm with Hersh. I really think that
32:46
it's so it may go on forever. But only as a demilitarized zone
32:52
and just a bunch of posturing and you know no real fighting. I
32:56
just don't think there's fighting going on. Doesn't I
32:59
mean have you seen any recent footage of fighting and and wins
33:04
or losses or anything? No, you don't we're not seeing that
33:07
anymore.
33:10
John C Dvorak: It didn't see much fighting to begin with. No.
33:14
Adam Curry: Well, no, we never like well, I mean, on my
33:18
military contact, I have the I must have 50 videos of Abrams
33:23
tanks all these tanks getting blown up. Just it's just sitting
33:28
ducks drone footage of Abrams tanks getting droned. I mean,
33:32
none of this seems to have worked very well at all. So and
33:39
of course this report which we didn't we I had it but I have a
33:44
semi clip from the American Journal. It's a poor read, but
33:48
at least we can laugh about it.
33:49
Unknown: Zelinsky asks Marina Abramovich to be ambassador for
33:54
Ukraine. Now apparently this story was removed from the
33:58
telegraph but that's where it was originally posted. They've
34:01
since scrubbed the internet of it we've had to go to Wayback
34:05
Machine version, the archive to get it here. Volodymyr Zelensky,
34:10
has asked Marina Abramovich the, quote performance artists to be
34:14
an ambassador for Ukraine. Miss Abramovich, a fierce critic of
34:18
Vladimir Putin's illegal invasion, said the Ukrainian
34:21
president had asked her for help in rebuilding schools or
34:25
rebuilding schools.
34:27
Adam Curry: So Marina Abramovich and who herself has claimed that
34:33
Zelinsky wants her to be an ambassador to the children not
34:37
like an official ambassador to think this guy gets wrong. And
34:42
most people immediately associate her with the spirit
34:45
cooking and the
34:46
John C Dvorak: lie Yes,
34:47
Adam Curry: the blood stuff.
34:48
John C Dvorak: No, I have not straightened out this store. I
34:50
mean, I've seen references to it but I'm glad you picked up on it
34:53
and you could just Yes, that's where I that's who that is the
34:56
spirit cooking woman where you throw bunch of did guts on your
35:03
wall or something? Well well when you eat it was it was
35:06
Adam Curry: interesting about her and I want to remind
35:09
everybody she ties back directly to the Podesta clan.
35:15
John C Dvorak: No she did that she goes to it yes that's where
35:18
it clean esta and
35:19
Adam Curry: the Clintons. Yeah, so this cannot be coincidental
35:24
or you know she it seems totally like her huge ego like yeah I'm
35:29
a part of this I'm paying the guys let me in on the scam
35:35
John C Dvorak: do some sketchy about her even be mentioned
35:37
whether this is any of this is even true. It could all be a
35:40
setup. Like I'm you know that transgender guy dude
35:46
Adam Curry: look wired who got fired?
35:48
John C Dvorak: I didn't never. I had never believed that you've
35:51
ever worked there?
35:52
Adam Curry: He ever know whoever whatever, whatever. Yeah, no, I
35:55
don't either. Now that
35:57
John C Dvorak: this, this whole thing seems like a like bull
36:00
crap from the get go. Yeah.
36:03
Adam Curry: So I can take us from there. Unless you have
36:05
anything else on Ukraine. I think I think now I'm got it for
36:08
today. I can take us to what's going on with migration around
36:12
the world. But
36:13
John C Dvorak: I do have one little thing I wanted to get out
36:15
of the way and Ukraine. Sure. And this was the this mostly
36:19
about the Russians. And you have to do a search because it's from
36:22
two or three shows ago on on the Cubans, supposedly, that the
36:28
Russians are kidnapping and forcing him to soldier down to
36:33
fight in the war. Have you heard this one?
36:36
Adam Curry: No, and I'm trying to find it will be under Cuban.
36:40
It'd be oh my goodness. Do you have like a whole bunch of clips
36:44
here? Oh, no. I see. Here we go. Here we go.
36:47
Unknown: Cuban authorities have uncovered an international human
36:50
trafficking ring. The victims are being sent overseas to fight
36:54
for Russia in the war against Ukraine. That's according to a
36:57
statement by Cuban authorities released on Monday. Cuba's
37:01
Foreign Ministry said Cuba is not part of the war in Ukraine
37:05
and Cuba will act against human trafficking aimed at recruiting
37:08
Cubans as mercenaries Cuban state run media at this at the
37:13
ministerial Deli. The
37:13
Interior Ministry detected and is working on the neutralization
37:17
and dismantling of a human trafficking network.
37:19
Cuba said it had already begun prosecuting cases in which its
37:23
citizens had been coerced into fighting in Ukraine. A Cuban
37:27
resident gave his take on the matter.
37:29
Cuba is against all illegal human trafficking. People said
37:33
it was to send them to war in Ukraine. The Cuban revolution is
37:36
against that.
37:37
And if true, this could mean Russia is having trouble
37:40
recruiting people from its own citizens. But why Cuba, Russia
37:44
has longstanding political ties with communist Cuba and Cuban
37:48
citizens often migrate to Russia for economic opportunities.
37:52
Russia is also looking elsewhere for help in its war against
37:55
Ukraine. On Monday, US National Security Council spokesperson
38:00
Adrienne Watson said North Korea leader Kim Jong Hoon and Russian
38:04
President Vladimir Putin could be planning to
38:06
clearly Russia running short of ammunition right now and having
38:12
to go to North Korea. Patricia Lewis,
38:14
the head of the International Security Program at the think
38:17
tank Chatham House explained that North Korea more than just
38:22
currency.
38:23
Obviously, it would like real high tech, missile technology,
38:28
etc. It may also want a show of strength with Russia such as
38:34
military exercises, naval exercises and so on that may be
38:38
part of the discussions.
38:40
Adam Curry: All of these people all of these think tanks, these
38:42
NGOs they're all in on the game. They're all getting paid for
38:47
participating in this in this play. What do you think the
38:51
significance of this was that you
38:53
John C Dvorak: did something very phony about it? Yeah. To
38:56
incorporate the the North Korea, Putin Kim meeting, that sort of
39:02
thing that always seemed like bull crap. And the fact that
39:06
they Oh, we have to go to North Korea for high tech weaponry why
39:09
right? This is like does this make sense? Now anyone with a
39:12
normal brain it's
39:14
Adam Curry: the same Well, it's the same type of misinformation
39:17
disinformation that the CIA brought in with MI six I'm sure
39:22
there is Chatham House Yeah, that Putin was suffering from
39:26
cancer Parkinson's He's almost dead.
39:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a big list. Yeah.
39:31
Adam Curry: What happened to that? American news media what
39:34
happened to that he's Oh, look at his head it's all puffy
39:36
because he's taken cancer meds he's gonna die. No.
39:39
John C Dvorak: So this seemed to be part of the narrative that
39:42
Oh, Russia is hard up forgetting people. They're all leaving the
39:45
country and nobody wants to fight for Putin. And so he's got
39:48
to involve himself with the word human trafficking.
39:53
Adam Curry: This is key
39:55
John C Dvorak: it's it's a make it look bad, obviously. And
39:59
Cubans Did you know these dumb Cubans I guess, John and how
40:02
they got wrapped up into there was a bunch of women living in
40:05
Russia that shows you if you move to Russia, you're gonna
40:07
get, you know, grabbed and thrown in
40:12
Adam Curry: rousted yeah Ross Ross did.
40:15
John C Dvorak: I mean this this is unbelievable how how extreme
40:19
this this storyline you
40:20
Adam Curry: have a kicker here 14 Second kicker Yes, but it is
40:23
Unknown: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Tuesday
40:27
said that it says a lot that Russia is trying to obtain
40:30
weapons from North Korea and September 2023, especially for a
40:34
war that Russia said would be over in a week
40:37
Adam Curry: now as this propaganda.
40:39
John C Dvorak: It's just a problem. But as such dubious
40:42
probably does anybody believe that Russia who you know who
40:48
just came shore to go into the moon and still is running the
40:54
Soyuz spacecraft the only way we can get to our own space station
40:58
is using this Russian devices that once in a while SpaceX can
41:01
send somebody up that they have to go to North Korea the crazy
41:07
North Korea to bite to get weapon and come mine is crazy to
41:12
even think that but they're pushing it.
41:15
Adam Curry: That means they're desperate.
41:18
John C Dvorak: Desperation is and Jake Sullivan side of the
41:21
equation. Oh
41:22
Adam Curry: man. I didn't clip it. But Anthony Blinken was at
41:26
some White House function. And he plays blues guitar on stage
41:31
does a blues song. Oh my god. Yeah, he's like it and it's not
41:38
bad after I'll give him that
41:39
John C Dvorak: but I'm sure he will be a lot of people can play
41:42
blues guitar. Yeah.
41:46
Adam Curry: Got the load. Amir's more bullets down, down, down,
41:49
down. Boy, he shooting them all down. That Putin ain't looking
41:53
so good. No more. Yeah. So the human trafficking angle is being
42:01
used over us around the world and a paper surfaced a paper
42:08
from 2000 from the United Nations. And it even the, what
42:15
is the big the big conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson,
42:22
everybody in Europe? You know, Jews will not replace us? Do you
42:27
know that this is called right? The replacement theory?
42:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the one we're Mirko got an award for
42:34
being
42:35
Adam Curry: that's the colleague colleague award. But the
42:38
replacement theory has been called anti semitic, You're
42:42
horrible. You know, this is not true. It's it's all conspiracy
42:47
theory. Well, this paper is titled, replacement migration.
42:54
Is it a solution to declining and ageing populations. And it's
42:59
a very extensive paper from the United Nations from 2001. And
43:04
I'll just give you the executive summary, I'll just read this.
43:06
Yeah, because they go through all of this. The new challenges
43:10
being brought about by declining and aging populations will
43:13
require objective, thorough and comprehensive reassessments of
43:18
many established economic, social and political policies
43:21
and programs. Such reassessments will need to incorporate a long
43:26
term perspective, critical issues to be addressed in those
43:29
reassessments will include a the appropriate ages for retirement.
43:33
Remember, this is from 2001. What have we seen in Europe,
43:37
retirement age is being moved. Be the levels types and nature
43:42
of retirement and health care benefits for the elderly?
43:45
France? Hello. What were they complaining about? health care
43:50
benefits UK health care benefits national health care system. See
43:56
the labor force participation, which is low right now labor
44:01
participation is low. That's why there's low unemployment. But it
44:05
doesn't mean that there's not people who are out of work, they
44:08
just given up and be the assessed amount of contributions
44:12
from workers and employers to support retirement and health
44:15
care benefits for the increasingly elder population.
44:18
Always a big discussion in our own country and II policies and
44:23
programs relating to the international migration, in
44:26
particular replacement migration and the integration of large
44:30
numbers of recent migrants and their descendants. They are
44:34
executing a plan globally. It's global. It's here, it's all over
44:41
Europe. And they're and they have no intention of stopping it
44:45
whatsoever. This is way be of way above Biden above McCrone.
44:51
This is your this is your great reset from the United Nations.
44:55
This is why you have the una the United Nations Migration Agency
45:00
We're busing people from South America giving him cell phones
45:03
down there giving him credit debit cards. Yeah, what we see
45:08
is oh, it's the beast train bull crap. This is, this is
45:13
purposeful. And it goes right back to the former New York
45:16
banker. America wins because our population is growing. But it's
45:20
not growing because we're making children is growing because we
45:23
have open borders.
45:24
John C Dvorak: Yep. Well, that brings us to Greg Abbott in
45:27
Texas.
45:28
Adam Curry: Okay, I knew this is one of those shows where we
45:31
integrate, I will hit he
45:33
John C Dvorak: goes to New York of all places. What is Greg
45:36
Abbott doing in New York, and let's find out.
45:38
Unknown: I'm here in New York City right outside of Roosevelt
45:40
Hotel. It's been the city's Intake Center for immigrants.
45:44
And while I was standing here, a man from Senegal approached me
45:47
and asked me where he needed to go. So we talked to some workers
45:51
at this entrance, and they pointed the man in this
45:54
direction to an entrance over here. New York City continues to
45:57
deal with this immigration crisis. And Governor Abbott says
46:01
that's just a fraction of what Texas sees on a daily basis.
46:05
We have in any one particular location 1000s of people
46:10
crossing the border in a mad
46:13
rush type of way. Texas Governor Greg Abbott was in New York City
46:17
on Wednesday, he spoke at the Manhattan Institute about the
46:20
nation's border crisis. And he shared some surprising numbers
46:24
regarding the illegal immigrants currently in New York City.
46:27
How many migrants do you have here? 120,000, something like
46:30
that. Texas, has bussed 15,800 to New York. Are these other
46:38
people come from the Biden administration?
46:40
Adam Curry: Yes. And Abbott's in on it. They're all in it knows
46:46
that this is a global movement. This is not just a Biden
46:49
administration goes way above that. But okay, it's his job
46:53
he's playing. He's going to New York. Get on Broadway. Come on,
46:56
Greg.
46:57
John C Dvorak: You do what you do or Republican? Yeah, you
47:00
blame the Democrats course. Of course,
47:02
Adam Curry: just what you do. Yeah.
47:04
Unknown: Fabin explain that Texas has deployed the National
47:07
Guard and the Texas Department of Public Safety to help deal
47:10
with the crisis. And the National Guard has been setting
47:13
up miles of razor wire
47:14
along the US Mexico border. The Biden administration, had their
47:19
border patrol, go in and cut that razor wire that we put up,
47:25
pull it open. And there was an onrush of 1000s of illegal
47:31
immigrants pouring into the country.
47:34
And also said Texas is now building border barriers between
47:38
Texas and New Mexico to stop illegal immigrants from crossing
47:42
into El Paso never forget,
47:44
it was just three years ago, we had the lowest number of border
47:49
crossings in 40 years. It's kind of hard for people to understand
47:54
or remember, but it proves this and that is the President of the
47:58
United States can have an outsized impact on illegal
48:02
immigration across the border.
48:03
And last week, over 8600 people crossed the US Mexico border in
48:08
a 24 hour period, according to an official from the Department
48:11
of Homeland Security. That's up from about 3500 per day after
48:15
title 42 ended in May. And Abbott said the solution is for
48:19
the Biden team to just follow the laws already in place not
48:23
have to pass new
48:24
laws in force, the current laws on the books until that time
48:30
comes. Texas is going to continue to use every tool that
48:36
we can to secure the border. The best that we can.
48:40
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's bull crap. They're not securing
48:42
anything. They're not. They're just not there. They're there in
48:46
Fredericksburg. It's all as rampant now. It's rampant.
48:51
There's no stopping anybody. They're doing exactly what
48:54
they're told to do. Although there's all kinds of cell phone
48:58
video now of agents, speaking up speaking out against their,
49:03
their commanding officers. It's unintelligible it's really not
49:07
usable for the show, even with the Adobe product, but they're
49:11
starting to go, Hey, hold on a second. This is this is not
49:15
we're we're not abiding to our our laws, our constitutional
49:20
John C Dvorak: duty and point that made about the laws brings
49:24
up to two things. I didn't I don't have any clips from the
49:27
debates because it's a waste of time. But anybody who brings up
49:33
the idea of immigration reform is part of the of the scam. Yes.
49:40
Adam Curry: Exactly.
49:41
John C Dvorak: Because the fact is, we would put Abbot said it
49:45
whether you meant to say it or not. He's right. If you enforce
49:48
the laws we already have, and this applies to everything from
49:53
shoplifting to immigration and everything in between. You don't
49:59
have a problem. No, it's just law enforcement that the issue
50:03
is is law enforcement itself. But if you start talking about
50:06
oh, we need immigration reform. No, we don't. That's a lie. And
50:11
anyone who says that Nikki Haley being the top on that list,
50:14
Adam Curry: oh my goodness. I'm so disappointed in her. She is
50:17
just
50:18
John C Dvorak: the worst. She is the worst
50:21
Adam Curry: horrible. Let's go to CBS Face the Nation. Margaret
50:24
Brennan talking to a Texas representative.
50:27
Unknown: We turn now to Texas Republican Congressman Tony
50:29
Gonzales, who joins us from San Antonio this morning. I San
50:33
Adam Curry: Antonio, by the way Riverwalk you've ever been to
50:35
San Antonio ever been to the Riverwalk? Oh yeah. Well, you
50:38
can't go there anymore. Why not? It's just filled with people
50:42
sleeping migrants. They literally jump
50:45
John C Dvorak: cozy next to the river and the fireflies. No, no,
50:49
they lighting songs in the sombreros?
50:53
Adam Curry: No, it's not. It's not sombreros. It's not
50:56
Mexicans. It's, it's from all over the world. They're just
51:01
being dumped on the buses. Boom, dump them right there. And then
51:04
off you go
51:05
Unknown: this morning, Congressman, a lot to get to
51:08
with you. Well, if there is a shutdown, are the Border Patrol
51:11
agents in your district prepared to show up to work?
51:14
Adam Curry: See, this isn't the next talking point, oh, more
51:16
scripts at a
51:17
Unknown: time of migrant? Spike and not get paid spike? You
51:21
know, that's, that's the ugly part of a shutdown is you're
51:24
gonna have you're gonna have real people get hurt. But right
51:27
now, border patrol agents are showing up to operate in
51:30
processing centers. They're not out in the field. So they're not
51:33
really doing their jobs, and they haven't been doing their
51:36
jobs. And many, many agents have told me you know what, Tony?
51:39
Right now, I mean, give you example, in El Paso, the
51:42
facility 200 Border Patrol agents are in that soft sided
51:45
facility, taking care of migrants, meaning they're not
51:49
out in the field, protecting America from bad actors. So in
51:52
many cases, they might as well already be shut down.
51:56
Adam Curry: Yes, you could hear even go What do you mean, that's
51:57
their job. We mean, they're not doing their job. That is their
52:00
job. Who is
52:01
Unknown: preventing that?
52:02
The problem is, is Joe Biden's failed
52:04
Adam Curry: their failed immigration policies,
52:07
Unknown: we see the images, we hear the stories, but we never
52:10
hear solutions. So let's, let's talk some solutions. One of
52:13
those is I've been pushing very hard and many of my colleagues
52:16
to end catch and release I have an amendment in that homeland
52:20
bill that ends catch and release. Another one is, once
52:22
again, the Border Patrol agents, they're they're out of the game.
52:25
The the folks that are doing the real work are the sheriffs and
52:28
the deputies. And there's a program called stone stone
52:31
garden. And and there's a $10 million upgrade for that this
52:35
helps with manpower and equipment to help fight the
52:38
border crisis. But the third piece, which I'd argue is the
52:40
most important is repatriation flights. And when I met with
52:44
Secretary Mayorkas earlier this week, that's what I asked him
52:47
for repatriation flights, meaning if somebody does not
52:50
qualify for asylum, you don't bus them to New York, you don't
52:53
send them to LA, you don't let them go other places, you send
52:56
them back to their country of origin.
52:58
Adam Curry: The thing that's wrong with this guy is you don't
53:00
need this. It's not an issue of law. That's the thing. It's
53:04
like, you're you're you're just flailing in the wind. It's an
53:09
it's a matter of will the agencies do their job and has
53:14
nothing to do with what's in the law. This is all and it's all
53:18
just political. Oh, it's the Biden administration. Of course.
53:20
CNN take Well,
53:21
Unknown: this morning. There's a new agreement between Mexico and
53:24
the US to deport migrants at border cities back home to their
53:27
countries. It's part of an effort to fight the massive
53:29
surge in illegal crossings in recent weeks. Mexican officials
53:32
have also agreed to prevent migrants from using railways to
53:35
reach the border. This agreement comes as Texas border towns are
53:38
feeling the weight of the crisis with the mayor of El Paso saying
53:42
the city is at its breaking point soon. It's Rosa Flores
53:45
joins us live from Houston. Rosa, I was reading your
53:48
reporting throughout the course of the weekend. There's a ton to
53:50
unpack here. But what's the significance of this agreement?
53:53
You know, so this is really significant because it could be
53:56
the difference between the US seeing another surge on the
53:59
southern border. Not you would Mexican officials here that they
54:03
are going to quote depressurize their northern Mexican border
54:07
cities by deporting migrants back to their home countries,
54:11
which in essence means Mexico would be rerouting the flow of
54:14
migration before migrants actually get to the US southern
54:17
border. US Representative Henry Clare over the weekend,
54:20
applauded this move saying that this is a strategy that has
54:24
worked in the past under President Obama and President
54:27
Trump. But it's notable to add that advocacy organizations,
54:32
immigration advocates and human rights organizations have in the
54:35
past condemned this type of strategy.
54:37
Adam Curry: This is where they bring in the human trafficking
54:40
and there's all kinds of horrific stories, oh, human
54:43
trafficking, human trafficking. And of course, it's horrible.
54:46
These people are being told and being given a license to travel
54:51
to the United States and they've been told don't worry about it
54:53
when you get that yeah, maybe you have to wait for them to cut
54:55
the razor wire but you come in, it'd be all fine. You could stay
54:57
in the Roosevelt Hotel. This is The it's a it's the it is the
55:02
replacement migration. It is underway. There's big money
55:07
behind it. And yeah, yes,
55:09
John C Dvorak: it has to be somewhere it has to the whole
55:12
thing has to be globalist. Because if you remember, and
55:16
we're going back 15 years, we started doing the show almost 16
55:21
years now. Yeah. Wow, there was discussions. I think it was
55:26
during the, during our show era. It may have been before but I
55:30
very distinctly remember it about how we were lax at the
55:34
Mexican border but the Mexicans on the Guatemala border if you
55:39
tried to cross into Mexico, they they shoot you they beat you
55:45
couldn't get into Mexico, it was impossible because the Mexicans
55:50
were so mean about anyone trying to enter their country now all
55:55
of a sudden has singhalese and and Venezuelans and everyone
55:59
else just plowing through Mexico like there's like there's no
56:02
barrier to Mexico at all when
56:04
Unknown: the barrier North
56:05
Adam Curry: Africans Africans.
56:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah. How does that work
56:10
Adam Curry: because the United Nations migration migrant agency
56:13
is is shipping them they're shipping them all over the
56:16
world. They're facilitating it. And anybody who is we're just
56:22
being distracted with Petia he said she said Biden whatever be
56:28
Oh, stop shipping your people to New York. Build the wall. Well,
56:33
it's a little late for that now but it's the money it's big
56:36
money. And it is and they're not shy about it the this white
56:41
paper which is in the show notes have a read there and it's in
56:44
multiple languages in good un fashion, and its course ended
56:49
for the entire world to see and and to act upon. And it's it's
56:55
too late. Although Chicago is starting to wake up a little bit
57:01
Unknown: could Chicago reverse course on his pledge to be a
57:04
sanctuary city, some aldermen
57:05
are ready to leave it up to the voters after another weekend of
57:08
bus arrivals from the border.
57:10
Anthony Ponce is live with more Anthony.
57:14
On it, Scott. The migrant crisis shows no signs of slowing down
57:18
as of this morning. Roughly 9000 migrants are being housed in
57:22
shelters across the city with another 2000 camped out in
57:26
places like this where outside of district 19 police
57:29
headquarters are also camped out at airports. And now with no end
57:33
in sight. There's a new effort underway to let voters taxpayers
57:37
themselves decide whether whether Chicago should remain a
57:40
sanctuary city.
57:43
Adam Curry: Nobody has ever asked the voters, the people who
57:46
actually pay taxes and vote here in the city of Chicago. If they
57:50
want to remain a sanctuary city
57:52
Unknown: Ninth Ward Alderman Anthony veal wants to change
57:55
that migrants continuing to arrive to Chicago by the bus
57:59
load.
57:59
Adam Curry: Let's let the people decide. Let's not be afraid of
58:02
putting something on the ballot. He's talking about the march
58:05
primary ballot. Which March primary ballot that's after half
58:09
of these people will frozen to death in the winter.
58:13
John C Dvorak: When Chicago some winter
58:15
Adam Curry: that'll cure people
58:16
Unknown: he wants to include the question, should Chicago keep
58:19
its sanctuary city designation, the influx of migrants is
58:23
expected to cost Chicago taxpayers $255 million, by the
58:28
end of this year,
58:29
Adam Curry: they're always thrown out the money, it's going
58:31
to cost us so much going to know it's going to cost you your job,
58:35
your life, everything you all have to remember, only a certain
58:39
fraction of the country are dealing with this. These are
58:41
democratic cities and democratic states are the only ones. We are
58:45
not sharing the wealth across the country. Other cities and
58:48
other states are not dealing with these problems in order for
58:51
the referendum to hear on the march ballot. It would Oh no.
58:54
This is the beauty of like, Hey, I think he says they're not
58:57
sharing the wealth, which is even funnier listening entities
58:59
and democratic states are the only ones. We are not sharing
59:03
the wealth across the country, the wealth. Why is he saying the
59:06
wealth, the wealth of illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, job
59:11
seekers the wealth, you want to share that wealth gray catch?
59:15
That's it. He also says only Democrat city billion dollars by
59:19
the end of this year do you all have to remember, only a certain
59:23
fraction of the country are dealing with this. The
59:25
Democratic cities and democratic states are the only ones. We are
59:29
not sharing the wealth across the country. Other cities and
59:32
other states are not dealing with these problems. They need
59:35
some wealth, send them some wealth in order for the
59:37
referendum to appear on the march ballot.
59:39
Unknown: It would need a majority vote from the Chicago
59:41
City Council.
59:42
John C Dvorak: I definitely think that's something that
59:44
should be up for discussion regardless of whether you're pro
59:46
or against it.
59:47
Unknown: I don't think it's that important compared to a lot of
59:50
the other issues that we are facing in Chicago.
59:53
Adam Curry: No really.
59:57
Unknown: San right now Chicago is under what is called a
1:00:00
welcoming city ordinance, which means don't inquire as to any
1:00:05
immigrants status and also police officers do not cooperate
1:00:10
with ICE agents.
1:00:11
Adam Curry: Now that's interesting because they're
1:00:14
saying police officers are not cooperating with ICE agents
1:00:18
making it look like ice was trying to do something but the
1:00:20
cops man, they're in the welcoming city of Chicago.
1:00:23
They're not helping out. Well, boots on the ground. Adam and
1:00:27
John thought you might find my recent experience trying to get
1:00:29
help from ice Homeland Security. Interesting. Here's some
1:00:32
background. I've been a police officer in a small Northwest
1:00:35
Ohio town for 25 years. We are rural and are surrounded by a
1:00:38
lot of farmland we see a lot of migrant workers. But recently,
1:00:41
we've seen a large uptick in illegal immigrants so much so
1:00:45
that I got a call from a trailer park owner. The trailer park is
1:00:49
owned by a management company out of Florida, the Florida
1:00:52
manager reported that they believe there may be possible
1:00:54
human trafficking of illegal immigrants at two of their lots.
1:00:58
So and then he goes on and you know what he observed? You know,
1:01:01
people being shuttled, being fed in one trailer and more people
1:01:04
coming in those people going never seen them again. And he
1:01:07
says what is interesting is that the registered tenant for one of
1:01:11
those trailers doesn't actually live there. That person is
1:01:14
running a check cashing business out of another residence. So
1:01:16
it's a whole the scam is on all different levels. Oh, yeah. This
1:01:21
type of investigation is not something we're equipped to deal
1:01:24
with. So I called for help. I call the national hotline of ice
1:01:27
era Enforcement and Removal Operations and received a
1:01:30
message that all lines were busy. All lines are busy, please
1:01:35
call back later, I tried two more times on different dates
1:01:39
received the same message. In addition, I also called the
1:01:41
local office out of Detroit three times and was sent to
1:01:44
voicemail. I have yet to receive a call back getting work visas
1:01:49
for all the immigrants in New York City must be a bigger
1:01:51
priority. So ice is not cooperating. Don't blame the
1:01:55
cops. Don't blame the cops. Ice is not cooperating. That's
1:01:59
what's happening here.
1:02:01
John C Dvorak: The whole thing is just to complete. Well, I
1:02:04
want to play this clip. And I have a point to make.
1:02:06
Adam Curry: Okay, but I do have some of your Europe stuff to do.
1:02:08
So make sure
1:02:10
John C Dvorak: migrants National Park and New Tang Dynasty clip
1:02:15
this migrants. They want to move into the national parks now.
1:02:19
Yeah.
1:02:19
Unknown: And the Biden administration's plan to house
1:02:21
illegal immigrants on federal lands and a national parks is
1:02:26
under scrutiny.
1:02:27
Adam Curry: I got to stop this for a second. So, you know, a
1:02:30
big story is which I think was picked up by the daily wire.
1:02:34
Some guy flew his plane over this land in Texas. And it's a
1:02:41
development and the development is pretty big. And they expect
1:02:45
to have I don't know, 20,000 people living in this
1:02:47
development. And the story goes like this. Illegal Immigrants
1:02:51
are getting loans without checking where they are.
1:02:53
There's, they're putting flags in different countries. They're
1:02:56
raising them up over all this development. It's all horrible.
1:02:59
It's all in Texas, it's no good. And all you said all anyone has
1:03:04
is this aerial footage of some trailers. You know, it's like,
1:03:10
and so everyone's up in arms about this, this development
1:03:14
with this guy apparently is giving out, you know, loans that
1:03:18
are not you know, you get a loan without any collateral. The
1:03:22
human trafficking but there's no no pictures from on the ground.
1:03:26
Even those Supposedly there's flags of foreign nations being
1:03:30
hoisted over these trailers. That's what everyone's mad
1:03:34
about. But we have to go to New Tang Dynasty to find out that
1:03:39
the Biden administration wants to put them in our national
1:03:42
parks. Where's the outrage? know everybody gets outraged
1:03:47
John C Dvorak: by New Tang Dynasty.
1:03:49
Unknown: A house committee held a hearing today examining the
1:03:52
proposal.
1:03:53
The Housing Committee on natural resources held a hearing
1:03:56
Wednesday on the Biden administration's use of National
1:03:59
Park Service lands to house illegal immigrants. Earlier this
1:04:03
month, the Biden administration agreed to lease Floyd Bennett
1:04:06
field to New York City. The site is part of the Gateway National
1:04:09
Recreation Area and temporarily housed 2500 of the immigrants.
1:04:14
The endless flow of illegal immigrants over our southern
1:04:17
border is not only destroying individual cities and states is
1:04:21
destroying our country. Now the Biden administration is looking
1:04:25
to spread this chaos to one of America's greatest ideas. Our
1:04:30
national parks.
1:04:31
Adam Curry: I didn't I didn't either. I didn't watch the
1:04:33
debate last night either. But I'm sure that it was all about
1:04:38
the Biden administration as the borders open the Biden
1:04:41
administration, this the Biden administration that it's all
1:04:44
theater, they don't care. They don't they have no solutions.
1:04:48
They know it's a plan that it's both way above their pay. Well,
1:04:52
John C Dvorak: if you find a dead doc, a major document for
1:04:55
2002 Everyone's seen it.
1:04:57
Adam Curry: Oh definitely. Yeah. When
1:05:00
Unknown: announcing the Biden administration's decision, New
1:05:03
York City Mayor Eric Adams said his own administration has
1:05:06
quotes been forced to unsustainably open new site
1:05:09
after new site as asylum seekers continue to arrive by the 1000s.
1:05:14
Democratic New York State Assembly Member Jamie Williams,
1:05:17
whose district includes Floyd Bennett field, said she has
1:05:20
grave concerns over the proposal. She emphasized that
1:05:23
the site has no infrastructure, no plumbing, no electricity and
1:05:26
no sewage system.
1:05:28
Floyd Bennett field in National Park is a treasure of natural
1:05:31
beauty and biodiversity. Housing individuals here is equivalent
1:05:36
to tarnishing the sanctity of Yellowstone National Park. The
1:05:40
irreversible damage of flora and fauna and the destruction of our
1:05:43
natural beauty are contrary to the ethos of conservation and
1:05:48
preservation. That National Park symbolizes
1:05:51
Kenneth Spencer, chairman of the US Park Police fraternal force
1:05:55
of police expressed concerns over the agency's readiness to
1:05:58
protect the public and the immigrants themselves.
1:06:01
Let me be perfectly clear, even without the migrant shelter on
1:06:04
Floyd Bennett field, we are at least 300 officers short of our
1:06:08
required minimum level. Our capacity to serve and protect
1:06:13
the public today is literally bursting at the seams.
1:06:18
Adam Curry: So this document has all these different scenarios in
1:06:21
it with different projections and they go all the way through
1:06:26
2050 in this document and be what will we need, you know,
1:06:31
what are we going to need we're gonna need for Europe and Italy
1:06:35
and Europe and the European Union from 2001. The European
1:06:38
Union just started as the EU had to happen didn't didn't even
1:06:42
have the Euro at that point. I don't think scenario now that
1:06:47
the monetary unit I don't think the Euro happened till 2003.
1:06:50
John C Dvorak: Maybe let's take a look we can we can check our
1:06:53
old facts. Yes, you check that and
1:06:54
Adam Curry: I'll read this the medium variant so sarin,
1:06:57
scenario one the medium variant of projections from the United
1:06:59
Nations World Population Prospects 1998 Revision scenario
1:07:03
to the medium variant of the 1988 1998 Revision amended by
1:07:07
assuming zero migration after 1995 This and in Scenario three,
1:07:12
this scenario computes and assumes the migration required
1:07:14
to maintain the size of the total population at the highest
1:07:17
level that would reach in the absence of migration after 1995.
1:07:20
So that they they have figured out exactly how much needs to
1:07:23
go. Where am they have by millions Germany needs 10 point
1:07:30
2 million the United States 38 million all of Europe 18 million
1:07:40
European Union 13 point 4 million. That's the total number
1:07:44
than they have. They've plotted this whole thing out the whole
1:07:50
thing, although fertility May May rebound in the coming
1:07:53
decades, few believe that for titles, yes, it's few evidence
1:07:57
of that a few believed that fertility in most developed
1:08:00
countries will recover sufficiently to reach
1:08:02
replacement level in the foreseeable future. Thus, making
1:08:05
population decline in edible inevitable in the absence of
1:08:08
replacement migration is a foregone conclusion. For France,
1:08:12
United Kingdom the United States and European Union the numbers
1:08:15
of migrants needed to offset population decline are less than
1:08:18
or comparable to recent past experience. While this is also
1:08:21
the case for Germany and the Russian Federation The migration
1:08:24
flows in 1990s relatively large due to reunification disillusion
1:08:27
respectively. They have it all figured out.
1:08:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just like good socialists do.
1:08:33
Adam Curry: Thank you. So Germany is also starting to you
1:08:37
know, like what, what's what's going on?
1:08:39
Unknown: Dozens of asylum hopefuls queue up outside of
1:08:42
registration center in Berlin
1:08:43
Adam Curry: asylum hopefuls. Now this is Berlin. Berlin. This is
1:08:48
not is Berlin on the border.
1:08:51
John C Dvorak: No, no his anywhere but the border.
1:08:54
Adam Curry: Tickets on the border dozens
1:08:56
Unknown: of zactly queue up outside of registration center
1:09:00
in Berlin. Many have made long arduous journeys to get here.
1:09:05
But with most asylum centers already at maximum capacity,
1:09:08
they're facing more hurdles.
1:09:10
The capacities within more than 100 buildings for refugees are
1:09:15
coming to an end. We at the moment we have about 200 places
1:09:20
that could be offered to asylum seekers
1:09:24
Adam Curry: work full Germany's full Berlin's full.
1:09:28
Unknown: In Germany asylum applications are up nearly 80%
1:09:31
Compared to 2020 to 10,000 people have applied this year in
1:09:35
Berlin alone, forcing authorities to open former
1:09:38
airports, hardware stores and churches.
1:09:40
Adam Curry: Well yeah, throw me in the churches in the hard way.
1:09:43
Ace Ace Hardware aces, the place aces the friendly face, Aces the
1:09:47
place with a helpful immigrant folks
1:09:50
Unknown: accommodate the growing number of requests for 90
1:09:53
billigt. Well
1:09:54
now we have the dilemma that too little capacity is available and
1:09:57
until the new ones are created Of course cruel and terrible
1:10:01
pictures rise of gyms being occupied and full
1:10:04
accommodations. The flood of refugees will not go away
1:10:07
especially called the word is not getting more peaceful.
1:10:10
It's a fact the German government is well aware of. On
1:10:13
Wednesday, the Interior Ministry announced increased border
1:10:16
policing in an attempt to discourage smugglers chef
1:10:19
destroys them. We must stop the cruel business of the
1:10:23
traffickers because they put human lives at risk for maximum
1:10:26
profits that federal police are now carrying out additional
1:10:31
checks on the smuggling routes. That's the board is handling and
1:10:34
the Czech Republic. But as strife continues to rage in many
1:10:38
parts of the world, more proactive policies will be
1:10:41
needed to ensure refugees a dignified life once they
1:10:45
inevitably do arrive.
1:10:46
Adam Curry: You know what you never hear? You never hear Hey,
1:10:49
we arrested a human trafficking ring. You don't hear that these
1:10:54
guys smartly. The ones going to Europe on the boats pick those
1:10:58
guys up the guy steering the boat now never hear that Greece
1:11:03
has has decided they're going to tap into the in undocumented
1:11:08
migrants to curb the labor squeeze. Hoo hoo hoo knew there
1:11:14
was no one left in Greece. No one in Greece can work. Al is
1:11:17
Greeks are creative. And you know what? They're gonna build
1:11:20
the metro and the airport. Nice. Yes, you and the German interior
1:11:25
minister. She wants voting rights for refugees. Oh, this is
1:11:29
the next one. Yeah, they should be able to vote, of course makes
1:11:33
nothing but since Italy. Yes.
1:11:37
John C Dvorak: I just want to tell you the euro. January
1:11:40
119 99. Very easy to remember. That's the first year that came
1:11:45
into existence.
1:11:46
Adam Curry: I don't think the Netherlands switch then though.
1:11:48
I thought the Netherlands switch much later.
1:11:50
John C Dvorak: They didn't know switch he wants but January
1:11:52
1 1999. The Euro came into existence? Well, yeah,
1:11:56
Adam Curry: it was it was a European monetary unit. No, no,
1:11:59
John C Dvorak: that was years earlier. This is when an actual
1:12:01
Euro showed up.
1:12:03
Adam Curry: Right. But What country did it show up in?
1:12:05
John C Dvorak: Were you asking me more questions because
1:12:07
Adam Curry: I remember the Netherlands. I was there at the
1:12:09
time. And it was after 2000. But thing was after 2001 and the
1:12:13
Gilder became the euro and everyone was like, hey, my
1:12:17
coffee just doubled in price. Oh, that happened?
1:12:20
John C Dvorak: really screwed. The Italians got to the biggest
1:12:22
screw job from it.
1:12:23
Adam Curry: Well, speaking of the Italians, they're mad notes.
1:12:27
And
1:12:27
John C Dvorak: you okay, the currency was formerly virtual in
1:12:30
1999 notes and coins began to circulate in 2002.
1:12:35
Adam Curry: There you go. So they were already planning this
1:12:38
for the European Union before the Euro was in circulation.
1:12:41
Italy is mad now. Because the Germans supposedly are German
1:12:47
NGOs. This is the big one the NGOs everywhere doing this. All
1:12:51
this is how the money flows. The human traffickers, I'm gonna say
1:12:56
they're just NGOs. That's why no one ever gets arrested. an NGO
1:13:00
man there's evidence
1:13:01
John C Dvorak: for that. That just was if you recall, in Texas
1:13:03
during the Trump administration, they were finding these NGOs
1:13:08
that Catholics a lot of them, yes. Oh, in Austin. Yeah. They
1:13:12
were moving migrants all
1:13:14
Adam Curry: over the place. million dollars a year they were
1:13:16
making. Yeah. And they were making Yes, they were making a
1:13:20
billion dollars. So Italy. Now Oh, Lampedusa. It's full.
1:13:25
There's more migrants now than live on the island of Lampedusa.
1:13:28
But that's okay. We've got a plan.
1:13:30
Unknown: Italy has set up its first center for asylum seekers
1:13:34
deemed to have come from so called safe countries.
1:13:37
Adam Curry: Oh, they're from safe countries. Don't worry.
1:13:39
These aren't the raping kind. Don't worry about Italian
1:13:42
Unknown: government hopes the facility in the Sicilian port of
1:13:45
Pizarro will accelerate the process of asylum claims. It
1:13:49
will house people who can't claim refugee status as they've
1:13:53
arrived from countries not considered to be dangerous. It
1:13:57
comes as Italy's trying to cope with severe overcrowding at its
1:14:01
migrant center on Lampedusa Island. Authorities have begun
1:14:05
moving some other locations after a recent surge in
1:14:09
arrivals. The extent of the problem was highlighted earlier
1:14:12
this month, when some migrants broke out of the center because
1:14:16
of a lack of space and essential provisions. In an effort to
1:14:20
reduce numbers arriving, Prime Minister Georgia Maloney's
1:14:23
cabinet is implementing measures against young adults posing as
1:14:27
unaccompanied minors in order to claim state protection minutes
1:14:30
Okay,
1:14:31
Adam Curry: so these are their safe safe asylum seekers. Don't
1:14:34
worry about it. These are the safe kind, not the kind that are
1:14:37
raping and pillaging and blowing up cars in Sweden. Not the kind
1:14:42
that are beating up gay lesbian to spirit whatever trans in the
1:14:47
Netherlands now, it's not that kind. It's not that kind. None.
1:14:50
No, it's it's all safe. Don't worry about it. And the only cup
1:14:54
Well, there's two, but the only country that is standing up and
1:14:57
saying hey, you leftists you morons. It's all your own fault
1:15:05
is Poland.
1:15:07
John C Dvorak: Hungary out of the picture I
1:15:09
Adam Curry: said there's two. I said, I don't have a clip of a
1:15:12
of a Hungarian member of European Parliament. I only have
1:15:16
a clip of the Polish member of European Parliament. Dominique
1:15:19
tarzi. insky Thank you,
1:15:21
Unknown: Mr. President. You're leftists.
1:15:27
Adam Curry: I love that. Hey, dear leftists Hello, hello
1:15:29
leftists How you doing? Thank
1:15:30
Unknown: you, Mr. President, Your leftists I'm very happy to
1:15:35
take part in this debate about democracy in Europe. So let me
1:15:39
give you some example of a very major democracy in Poland over
1:15:43
1000 years of, of tradition of Polish nation. Polish nation
1:15:50
rejected you, dear leftists A times A times in the role you
1:15:55
have lost elections in Poland. So get used to it, because
1:16:01
you're going to lose again. That's number one. Let me give
1:16:05
you some data about Poland and Polish democracy. The lowest
1:16:09
unemployment in European Union is Poland. The highest GDP after
1:16:15
COVID in European Union is Poland. One of the lowest depths
1:16:21
in European Union is Poland. So don't give us this rubbish about
1:16:29
the need of educated immigration as we heard yesterday, we don't
1:16:35
need your doctors. We don't need your engineers. Take them. Take
1:16:39
them all and pay for them. We don't need them. You know why?
1:16:44
Because there's zero terrorist attacks in Poland. Why? Because
1:16:49
because there is no illegal migration in Poland. So don't
1:16:52
give me this. Look, don't give me this arguments about the
1:16:55
populism. Because this is a fact. This is your data from
1:16:58
Eurostar. So we don't need your engineers. We don't need your
1:17:03
doctors. Take them. Do not do that. Do not teach us do not do
1:17:08
that teach us about democracy, because we know what the
1:17:11
democracy is. So learn from Poland be like Poland. Thank you
1:17:17
very much.
1:17:19
Adam Curry: Like Poland? Exactly. We don't have any of
1:17:23
those problems, why we're not letting them in? Which will be a
1:17:27
very big problem for Poland.
1:17:29
John C Dvorak: Well, they also have they maintain their
1:17:32
population they have a high fertility the don't go laxed and
1:17:41
slack off. No. Which brings me to the point of what you're
1:17:45
going to do with all these people. Because obvious I think
1:17:47
you're right there's nothing to stop this because it's a scam.
1:17:52
shanty towns, I'm telling you, people are gonna have to get
1:17:56
used to this idea, instead of putting them up here and there
1:17:59
is to give them a huge area and let them there's people coming
1:18:04
in from all over the place that are very skilled workers in
1:18:08
terms of carpentry. Yeah, the shanty towns are gonna we
1:18:12
Adam Curry: don't have any more blacksmith plumbers, people who
1:18:17
have skills that we don't want any more.
1:18:22
John C Dvorak: Whether we have or not, is the point that I'm
1:18:25
making is that to deal with all this influxes, you're going to
1:18:29
have to let them take care of themselves. And shanty towns,
1:18:34
favelas as you would have it in Brazil, to do work.
1:18:42
Adam Curry: You know where this is going to happen. First the
1:18:44
shanty towns. Alberta, Alberta. Listen to the Alberta migrants
1:18:53
are driving a population surge and Alberta is the fastest
1:18:57
growing province 98% of Canada's population growth over the last
1:19:02
year came from international migration. Let that sink in. I
1:19:05
love saying that. Let that sink in, soak it think and think
1:19:08
about it. Think about it soak in that for a moment match that 98%
1:19:13
of Canada's burst your bubble in Canada's population growth came
1:19:18
from international migration. Because Canadians I mean,
1:19:21
Americans are nice, we're nice guys, Canadians, you're so much
1:19:25
nicer and you're being taken advantage of the surge in
1:19:29
international migration is driving Canada's population
1:19:32
growth rate to its heights not seen in almost 70 years. And
1:19:37
Alberta is now growing faster than any province has seen since
1:19:41
records began like climate change.
1:19:46
John C Dvorak: The the growth rate news to me this is a good
1:19:49
one. The growth
1:19:49
Adam Curry: rate is the highest recorded in Canada since a 12
1:19:52
month period in 1957. Went hit 3.3% annually during the height
1:19:56
of the baby boom and the Hungarian refugee crowd ISIS,
1:20:01
close to 98% of that population growth can be attributed to net
1:20:04
migration, the number of non permanent residents has jumped
1:20:07
46% Mostly due to an increase in work and study permits. So
1:20:13
you're letting them in.
1:20:15
John C Dvorak: legislate them in a different way. Yeah.
1:20:18
Adam Curry: Yeah. So this, I mean, I, you know, people either
1:20:26
have to stand up and say, no,
1:20:28
John C Dvorak: they wish they're not doing. No one's doing it,
1:20:31
because
1:20:31
Adam Curry: we're all so nice. And we've been told all the
1:20:33
human traffic that there was some Republican lady went down
1:20:36
to the border plague a horrible story about women getting raped.
1:20:39
Yes, of course. It's horrible. But that's not the problem. We
1:20:43
need to stop it all. Stop. Everyone needs to stop it.
1:20:48
John C Dvorak: But you can't. You can't. Because if it's an
1:20:50
international, international controlled by everybody, this
1:20:56
Adam Curry: banks, banks, the famous New York banker, we win,
1:21:00
and lawmakers have no incentive to stop it because they get to
1:21:04
spend money. When there's more people, they love it. They're
1:21:08
writing laws, we're doing more laws, you got some more stuff.
1:21:11
When we got home, we have to set up camps, favelas. Where should
1:21:18
we have the favelas in America? I mean, they work? I'm with you
1:21:22
on that? Where do we set them up? Do we do that? And the
1:21:24
national parks?
1:21:26
John C Dvorak: No, you can't do that. That's the that's the
1:21:28
reason that National Parks story showed up is to is to that will
1:21:32
continue to show up as they Oh my god, they're gonna wreck our
1:21:36
parks. And you know, we have all these tree huggers that are part
1:21:39
of this culture that won't put up with it. So you're going to
1:21:42
have to find in Brazil, the irony of Brazil, I've
1:21:46
Adam Curry: first time I went there. You've been there. So you
1:21:49
can a lot talk about it. Yeah. But the irony
1:21:51
John C Dvorak: of Brazil was pointed out to me almost
1:21:53
immediately, because the Brazilians like to point it out
1:21:56
is that the best views and the best property that would be
1:22:01
worth a fortune is where the favelas are, especially in Rio.
1:22:07
There's one hill in Rio, that is all for velas. It's just a slum.
1:22:12
It's a slum. And it is, as somebody would point out, this
1:22:16
is where you want to see a view view to knock your socks off for
1:22:19
them. You go live in the favelas, because they gave them
1:22:22
all the view land and the best prime property.
1:22:25
Adam Curry: I have an idea. I have an idea for the United
1:22:28
States where we can build the favelas. Aspen,
1:22:33
John C Dvorak: Aspen would be good. Yeah, a little cold.
1:22:37
Adam Curry: used to it. After Chicago, they'll know. They'll
1:22:41
know what they're in for. It's disturbing. But everybody go to
1:22:46
the show notes under you'll see it replacement migration and get
1:22:50
that white paper, take a look at it, read through it. And you'll
1:22:52
see that this has been planned all the way through 2050. And
1:22:56
they're doing it instead of instead of the fact we've done
1:23:01
the exact opposite of stimulating population growth to
1:23:06
keep up with the aging population.
1:23:08
John C Dvorak: No, we're actually we're and sterilizing
1:23:12
kids sterilizing
1:23:14
Adam Curry: kids telling him you're scaring everybody with
1:23:16
climate change. Oh, you don't want any kids for climate
1:23:19
change. And why? Because in the in the infamous words of George
1:23:22
Carlin, they want obedient workers. That's what they want.
1:23:27
People who will shut up and do what they're told because
1:23:30
they're under TPS, temporary, permanent something. They're
1:23:37
allowed to stay for a while. But hey, stay in line. Do what we
1:23:40
tell you to do. That's what we're all we you're too mouthy.
1:23:44
We're too complicated. We have ideas of like running for
1:23:47
office. No, no, no. And let them vote. Let them vote. Let them
1:23:52
vote for us. Who keeps them in offices?
1:23:54
John C Dvorak: Thanks. What's it gonna change?
1:23:58
Adam Curry: What the vote no, it'll change nothing. They'll
1:24:01
shut down.
1:24:01
John C Dvorak: They'll change nothing. They'll
1:24:03
Adam Curry: vote though. No, but it gives everyone the illusion
1:24:05
on how's it they're good citizens. And there'll be
1:24:09
washing your car, shining your shoes, cooking your meals. And I
1:24:16
guess we just all want it. A lot of refers. Meanwhile, in
1:24:21
America, we don't really care about that. We're obsessed about
1:24:25
stuff like this.
1:24:25
Unknown: Taylor Swift has entered her football era.
1:24:28
If we play like this every time Taylor's inability and then she
1:24:31
needs to be here every week.
1:24:33
Swift made her fearless return to Kansas City's Arrowhead
1:24:37
Stadium which she sold out twice last summer to cheer on NFL
1:24:40
tight end. Travis Kelce.
1:24:42
I told her I've seen you rock the stage and arrowhead. You
1:24:44
might have to come see me rocket stage and erlaubt
1:24:46
wearing red of course next to Kelsey is mom Donna. The
1:24:49
reaction beyond the NFL wildest dreams.
1:24:53
Adam Curry: Travis Kelce has had a lot of big catches in his
1:24:55
career. This would be
1:24:57
John C Dvorak: the biggest
1:24:58
Unknown: the women's editions of it As Jersey are selling fast
1:25:01
online, the company behind Kelsey is outfit, capitalizing
1:25:05
calling it the 1989 and stores touting the New Balance shoes
1:25:09
she wore to the game. A hot commodity Swifties know all too
1:25:13
well, she's a mastermind of her business reputation. Her tour
1:25:17
alone expected to add an estimated $5 billion to the
1:25:20
global economy more than the GDP of at least 50 countries gotten
1:25:24
to the errors. And now her fans suddenly paying attention to the
1:25:28
NFL, and the players are ready for it.
1:25:31
Adam Curry: So troll war POTUS just rage quit out of the troll
1:25:36
room. Adam, now you lost a listener by but that's too bad
1:25:41
because the reason I played this was only a setup for a classic
1:25:46
no agenda clip. Which was a source from being at.io. As we
1:25:54
know, we you specifically identified the Taylor Swift
1:25:58
phenomenon very early on.
1:26:00
John C Dvorak: No, you're a decade ago.
1:26:02
Adam Curry: March 1 2009 14 years ago. No agenda episode 76.
1:26:12
Let's go back everybody and listen to what John discovered.
1:26:16
John C Dvorak: Was Taylor Swift.
1:26:18
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift.
1:26:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the new I don't know who was the one
1:26:23
that picks says okay, we're gonna make her a star. And they
1:26:27
find some growth. This is kind of a discovery cute looking,
1:26:30
puffy faced blonde, who is now a she's a singer. And she's been
1:26:36
on everything. She's on this show and that show and that she
1:26:38
was hot, you know, highlighted on Saturday Night Live, which is
1:26:41
rerun, but it was she was like, you know, first ran a couple of
1:26:43
weeks. Maybe a
1:26:44
Adam Curry: couple months on tree Country Girl country
1:26:46
singer.
1:26:47
John C Dvorak: I don't know. She seems kind of that kind of
1:26:50
middle of the road. Quasi yodeling lesbian sounding kind
1:26:54
of. But the problem is she doesn't have any range. She's
1:26:58
got no range at all. So she said she has just got to kind of a
1:27:01
flat voice with a very small, really narrow range and, and the
1:27:07
material is weak. So I'm watching her. And so so.
1:27:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know who she is. Yeah. Andrew Gromit.
1:27:24
John C Dvorak: Andrew grommet says, oh, you know, my wife and
1:27:26
my daughter are really into this girl named Taylor Swift. And I
1:27:31
mean, I don't know what he was going to tell me because then I
1:27:32
went off on him. Something about Taylor Swift, I guess but, but I
1:27:37
just it's just like, overnight, this just just just happens.
1:27:41
I've never seen anything like does she have a background? Has
1:27:43
she paid her dues? Has she been around forever singing the blues
1:27:47
and Memphis? I mean, what, you know, the next thing you know
1:27:49
she's there and she stinks. I should add to that, because I
1:27:56
remember this whole thing. I her dad was a superstar lawyer
1:28:01
Lynch. He was investment banker, right banker. That's
1:28:04
Adam Curry: what he was investment bank. He
1:28:05
John C Dvorak: moved the family to Memphis Yes. Where he picked
1:28:10
up a bunch of clients that were you know, looking to do
1:28:13
something with a lot of their money. And he had this daughter
1:28:15
named Taylor and he's gonna push her into the scene. And he did
1:28:18
and she B being in a family of smart money. She was a genius at
1:28:24
marketing and marketing herself in this whole thing with Travis
1:28:27
Kelce. I listened to a guide, listen to Sports Talk. These
1:28:31
people actually think this is a boyfriend girlfriend thing.
1:28:34
Nope. They are so stupid. This is such a setup for publicity.
1:28:41
And the giveaway to me was what after that game that she would
1:28:44
attended they will they walked together to some limos and as a
1:28:51
new boyfriend, girlfriend, two things that very observable, not
1:28:56
holding hands. And the second one is events you don't hold
1:29:00
hands with, with a promotional woman like her chair who's a
1:29:04
genius at this, she would have at least locked arms and gone
1:29:08
arm and arm to the limits because that's what you would do
1:29:13
if you're a boyfriend, girlfriend. That's what you
1:29:15
would do in the early stages. You're gonna lock arms, or hold
1:29:18
hands or, or even, you know, put his arm around the shoulder or
1:29:24
something. No, none of that. It was to business people walking
1:29:28
down together thinking about how much money they're gonna make.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: And here's the business end of it.
1:29:33
Unknown: Travis did you know you can get this season's COVID-19
1:29:36
shot when you get your flu shot? Oh,
1:29:38
two things at once. One, I'll have two things at once, please.
1:29:49
Now back to two things at once. Two things at once. No two
1:29:55
things at once. Travis asked about Getting this season's
1:30:00
COVID-19 shot when getting your flu shot.
1:30:03
Adam Curry: There it is. It's all transactional. And I think
1:30:06
the Kardashians actually saw what Taylor Swift and her family
1:30:09
did. And the machine because she she she has writers. She doesn't
1:30:14
just you know yodel herself you know she's she has writers who
1:30:18
have very skilled you know, and the whole industry look if you
1:30:21
have a decent song, you repeat it in the algo on Spotify five
1:30:25
times everybody it's a hit. That's how it works is very
1:30:27
simple. It's all transactional, the Kardashians went and that's
1:30:31
too bad my girl you know, what's your name? The mom the momager
1:30:35
just too bad. My girls have no talent. We'll just put them on
1:30:40
top of some basketball players. That's what she did. So now it's
1:30:44
worse. Yeah, it works
1:31:01
Unknown: we see more posts.
1:31:04
Adam Curry: That's right time for you. COVID Boost. CNN
1:31:07
leading the pack.
1:31:08
Unknown: New federal data is revealing a disturbing trend in
1:31:10
the recent increase in COVID 19 cases hospitalizations are
1:31:13
rising faster than average among children. SENIOR MEDICAL
1:31:16
CORRESPONDENT Meg Terrell is here with the details.
1:31:19
Are these hospitalizations in vaccinated and unvaccinated
1:31:22
children? Do we know?
1:31:23
Well, the vaccination rates among kids are extremely low,
1:31:26
particularly for kids under five, only 13% of those kids
1:31:30
have actually gotten any dose of COVID vaccine. So there's not a
1:31:33
lot of unity out there.
1:31:34
Adam Curry: This doesn't ring true at all. She's not answering
1:31:36
the question. She'll come around to it at the end. But the
1:31:39
question is, are these kids vaccinated or not? Well, you
1:31:42
know, it's very low. And this and you're bad parents from
1:31:45
Unknown: vaccination or from prior infection in that age
1:31:47
group. For teenagers, it's higher. And so you would expect
1:31:50
we haven't seen this specific data breaking it out, but that
1:31:52
most of the hospitalizations are an unvaccinated kids.
1:31:55
We have a sense. You talked about the vaccinations, how the
1:31:57
administration has handled kind of this latest wanna say wave
1:32:00
this spike, what's the terminology I should even use
1:32:03
here? But how the administration is operating in this moment?
1:32:05
Yeah, we are starting to hear that the White House, of course,
1:32:07
is watching this. And today, actually, they relaunched the
1:32:10
home COVID test program. So you can order for free tests per
1:32:13
household COVID test.gov. And experts say this is really
1:32:17
important, not just that you can prevent spread of COVID If you
1:32:20
think you might have it yourself to people who might be
1:32:22
vulnerable. But also because if you're in a high risk group,
1:32:24
treatment is actually available if you test positive for COVID.
1:32:27
And knowing sooner rather than later helps you actually get
1:32:30
those extra COVID
1:32:30
For example, you have to take pretty soon, right? Yeah, within
1:32:33
five days,
1:32:33
Adam Curry: within five days. Okay. So this is a study that
1:32:37
came out from Martin Luther University Hala Viton bear. This
1:32:42
is a very well known University. 500 year old research university
1:32:45
in Germany, found that people with the highest risk of long
1:32:49
COVID or post COVID condition were unvaccinated people
1:32:55
infected with the Wuhan variant. They also just as a sideline
1:33:00
tested to see if vaccinated people were better protected
1:33:05
against long COVID. And results say no, there's absolutely zero
1:33:10
chance that you will have, the less chance that you will have
1:33:14
long COVID Whatever that is, we still don't really know what it
1:33:18
is. If you're vaccinated, so it's it's the whole this is the
1:33:24
member of the CDC director, our new one Mandy Cohen said this.
1:33:28
Unknown: So what the vaccine can do is protect you from the worst
1:33:31
of what COVID is. But remember, the vaccine early data is
1:33:34
showing us it can also prevent you from getting long COVID It
1:33:39
decreases your risk of getting long COVID which is extended
1:33:42
symptoms from that COVID virus. So yes, protecting from the
1:33:46
worst but also protecting you from potential long term
1:33:49
symptoms from this virus even if you have a mild case.
1:33:51
Adam Curry: Okay, so it does not protect you from long COVID That
1:33:55
is the peer reviewed research a liar. Well, she's poorly
1:34:00
informed, which is bad for the CDC director or she's a liar.
1:34:04
But don't worry NBC to the rescue act
1:34:06
Unknown: now with rising concerns about COVID as we move
1:34:09
into the COVID was ASINs are up nearly 8% And beginning today,
1:34:14
free tests are once again available at COVID test.gov. And
1:34:18
for those suffering from long COVID A study just out is giving
1:34:22
new clues to identifying and possibly treating the mystery
1:34:25
condition. Here's Anne Thompson.
1:34:30
Cello is Joshua Romans pleasure in profession. Long COVID made
1:34:36
it tough for the virtuoso soloists to play lengthy pieces.
1:34:40
What kind of difference has long COVID Made in your career?
1:34:43
Adam Curry: Hey, go out and get me a human interest story on
1:34:46
long COVID Let's do something about long code. Make it
1:34:49
something everyone can feel kind of really bad. I mean, this is a
1:34:52
virtue. Oh, so
1:34:54
Unknown: long COVID has forced me to only do the most important
1:34:57
things
1:34:58
long COVID impacts X percent of adults according to the CDC,
1:35:02
symptoms include fatigue, brain fog and memory difficulties. Now
1:35:06
a new study offers clues about potential blood biomarkers.
1:35:11
We're seeing patterns. David Petrino is the lead researcher
1:35:14
on our study showed that
1:35:16
individuals with long COVID had significant and measurable
1:35:20
differences in their blood. And what were those differences?
1:35:23
These differences were a mixture of hormone dysfunction, immune
1:35:27
dysfunction, and reactivation of past viruses,
1:35:32
specifically, 50% lower levels of cortisol, the hormone that
1:35:37
makes you feel alert and awake T cell exhaustion in immune
1:35:41
systems, and dormant viruses like Epstein Barr and herpes
1:35:45
reemerging this isn't a simple illness. This is a complex
1:35:48
illness. The study examined the blood of 268 people, some who
1:35:52
recovered from COVID Some never infected, some with long COVID
1:35:56
like Roman who wants to not need reminders like this and have
1:36:00
total recall of the music he loves.
1:36:03
Adam Curry: All right, so I'm gonna set you up here, John,
1:36:05
because this is one of those instances where we both clipped
1:36:09
the same astounding discovery. Of course, none of this could be
1:36:14
from the vaccination itself, none of it whatsoever because
1:36:18
you crazy the vaccine protects you from the worst of COVID. Now
1:36:23
the reason I'm going to set you up is I actually clipped a lot
1:36:25
more shorter bits than you did you clipped three pieces or
1:36:29
three or four pieces. You have a you have a titled as COVID
1:36:32
virologist, which is incorrect. So I'm going to set you up with
1:36:37
my intro clip of professor. His name is Professor Buck halt. He
1:36:44
is from University of South Carolina. And he is not a
1:36:50
virologist, he he's gonna explain what he is in this. And
1:36:54
having watched this video, it's just the name of the clip. I
1:36:58
know him too. But I played your thank you One Hour Photo, okay,
1:37:02
oh, no
1:37:03
John C Dvorak: cleaners, or cleaners.
1:37:08
Adam Curry: I like this guy a lot. Because he has this very,
1:37:13
this this air of I know exactly what I'm talking about. But the
1:37:17
system is so lame and screwed up that I'm just going to tell you
1:37:21
guys and do with it what you want. And I like his demeanor.
1:37:24
I'll play the intro clip. And then you can play your clips. My
1:37:26
Unknown: name is Philip buckholts. I'm I have a PhD in
1:37:30
biochemistry and molecular biology. I'm a cancer gene jock.
1:37:34
Basically, I do cancer genomics research at the University of
1:37:37
South Carolina. And what that means is that I'm kind of an
1:37:41
expert on all the ways that the human genome can get flooded
1:37:44
with during your lifetime. And which of those things cause
1:37:47
cancer and which ones don't?
1:37:49
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll stop it there. And if if I feel there's
1:37:51
anything missing from your clips, we can play it later.
1:37:54
John C Dvorak: Well, basically, the guy did a little research
1:37:58
just on a screwball notion. And I think it's playing pretty
1:38:01
well. And clip number one
1:38:02
Unknown: in in my professional evaluation of the literature,
1:38:05
the Pfizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people out
1:38:08
of the cemetery. But it sucked at stopping the pandemic. And it
1:38:13
was the best of sucky options that we had
1:38:15
Adam Curry: the guy remind me a little bit of a young meatloaf
1:38:17
by the way, did you catch any of that? Did you? Did you get that
1:38:20
vibe from him?
1:38:21
Unknown: No, none at all. Okay, and I still believe that it was
1:38:26
deployed, mostly in good faith. But there were a lot of
1:38:30
shortcuts taken because the house was on fire. And we could
1:38:34
do a better job next time. From the lessons that we're going to
1:38:37
learn here. That's my own personal view of this. But I'm
1:38:41
also my philosophical bent here is, I'm sure many of you have
1:38:45
heard of oxen awesomes razor, right, choose the simplest of
1:38:47
explanations. Well, there's another one called handlines
1:38:50
razor, which has never attribute malice to that which can be
1:38:53
better explained by incompetence. And so I'm trying
1:38:55
to be gracious here in many circumstances, there could be
1:38:59
malice underneath, but I'm trying to see just incompetence
1:39:02
to be gracious. And so the Pfizer vaccine is contaminated
1:39:07
with plasmid DNA. It's not just mRNA. It's got bits of DNA in
1:39:12
it. This DNA is the DNA vector that was used as the template
1:39:18
for the in vitro transcription reaction when they made the
1:39:21
mRNA. I know this is true because I sequenced it in my own
1:39:25
lab, the vials of Pfizer vaccine that were given out here in
1:39:28
Colombia. One of my colleagues was in charge of that
1:39:31
vaccination program in the College of Pharmacy. And for
1:39:35
reasons that I still don't understand. He kept every single
1:39:37
vial. So he had a whole freezer full of the empty vials. Well,
1:39:41
the empty vials have a little tiny bit. And in the bottom of
1:39:44
them, he gave them all to me. And I looked at him that we had
1:39:46
two batches that were given out here in Colombia. And I checked
1:39:50
these two batches, and I checked them by sequencing. And I
1:39:55
sequenced all the DNA that was in the vaccine and I can see
1:39:58
what's in there, and it's surprised Isn't that there's any
1:40:00
DNA in there. And you can kind of work out what it is and how
1:40:05
it got there. And I'm kind of alarmed about the possible
1:40:08
consequences of this.
1:40:10
Adam Curry: No, I don't know what your other clips are. So
1:40:12
I'll just let you continue.
1:40:13
John C Dvorak: So I would mention, if you remember our
1:40:18
show, during the swine flu era, of one of the swine flu
1:40:23
manufacturing companies actually had live swine flu viruses in
1:40:30
the vaccine, they were so careless with their
1:40:32
manufacturing, you remember this guy? Sure do. And it went out
1:40:35
and all kinds of people ended up with swine flu because of the
1:40:38
vaccine. And it was like, the problem is, and I think it's
1:40:42
kind of elucidated in this guy's presentation, even though he
1:40:46
never says this, the fact that they're, they're held harmless,
1:40:51
because they've been giving a leet, they've been giving the
1:40:54
green light, whatever you put in there, whatever, you're shooting
1:40:57
the people, you're you're not liable. Don't worry about it.
1:41:00
This is the problem. And that's why the what he claims is this
1:41:04
careless amount of DNA, which is the beginning part of this
1:41:11
system that made the RNA is still there, because the what's
1:41:15
the point, we can't get sued, it's just we just slop this
1:41:18
stuff out. Who cares? Crank it out, and wait, if it does damage
1:41:22
too bad.
1:41:23
Unknown: Here we go part two, both in terms of human health
1:41:26
and biology, but you should be alarmed about the regulatory
1:41:29
process that allowed it to get there. So this DNA in my view,
1:41:34
it could be causing some of the rare but serious side effects
1:41:37
like death from cardiac arrest, or there's a lot of cases now,
1:41:41
of people having suspicious death after a vaccine, it's hard
1:41:46
to prove what caused it is just, you know, temporarily
1:41:49
associated. And this DNA is a plausible mechanism, this DNA
1:41:57
can and likely will integrate into the genomic DNA of cells
1:42:02
that got transfected. With the vaccine mix. This is just the
1:42:05
way it works. We do this in the lab all the time, we take pieces
1:42:08
of DNA, we mix them up with a lipid complex, like the Pfizer
1:42:12
vaccine is and we pour it onto cells and, and a lot of it gets
1:42:16
into the cells. And a lot of it gets into the DNA of those
1:42:18
cells, and it becomes a permanent fixture of the cell.
1:42:21
It's not just a temporary, a temporary thing it is in that
1:42:25
cell and all of its progeny from now on forevermore. Amen. So
1:42:30
that's why I'm kind of alarmed about this DNA being in the
1:42:32
vaccine, it's, it's, it's different from RNA because it
1:42:36
can be permanent. This is a real hazard for genome modification
1:42:40
of Long live somatic cells like stem cells. And it could cause
1:42:45
theoretically, this is all a theoretical concern, but it's
1:42:48
pretty reasonable based on solid molecular biology, that it could
1:42:52
cause a sustained autoimmune attack toward that tissue. It's
1:42:55
also a very real theoretical risk of future cancer in some
1:43:00
people, depending on where in the genome, this foreign piece
1:43:03
of DNA lands, it can interrupt a tumor suppressor or activate an
1:43:07
oncogene. I think it'll be rare, but I think the risk is not
1:43:10
zero. And it may be high enough that we are to figure out if
1:43:13
this is happening or not.
1:43:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, the idea being if you're getting foreign DNA
1:43:19
mixed into your body, it's with you forever, including your kids
1:43:22
and your grandkids and could be going on for generations.
1:43:27
John C Dvorak: So this is a this Chris, he's speaking to I think
1:43:30
the state legislature as in they're like, well, we can't
1:43:33
wait we supposed to do about it. i There's other stuff, there's
1:43:36
more detail that he goes into, but I just wanted to wrap it
1:43:39
with the third clip, which is his kind of a summary of what we
1:43:44
have to do. And the main thing is the obvious, which is clean
1:43:48
these, these vaccines up and he then talks about how he thinks
1:43:52
this platform platform is great. Which means which makes me think
1:43:58
he's pretty objective about this, get the DNA
1:44:01
Unknown: out of the booster, and all future versions of this
1:44:04
vaccine. I'm a real fan of this platform. Okay. I think it has
1:44:09
the potential to treat cancers. I really believe that this
1:44:14
platform is revolutionary. And in your lifetime, there will be
1:44:19
the mRNA vaccines against antigens in your unique cancer.
1:44:24
Okay, and but they gotta get this problem fixed. Okay. And I
1:44:28
right now, I think the financial incentives are too great to just
1:44:32
keep on rolling with it.
1:44:33
Adam Curry: I wanted to add two things to this because he went
1:44:37
into a lot of different things. The first one is when this first
1:44:43
came out, we were told over and over and over again, no you
1:44:49
conspiracy theorists No, there's no does not DNA. It's mRNA. It's
1:44:55
not DNA. It's mRNA. A little
1:44:57
Unknown: nerdy science here the central dogma of molecular
1:45:00
Biology is that DNA gets transcribed into RNA, okay. And
1:45:04
then RNA gets translated into protein. This is just how life
1:45:09
runs. Why does this matter? Well, DNA for the purposes of
1:45:14
this discussion, DNA is a long lived information storage
1:45:19
device. Okay, what you were born with, you're gonna die with and
1:45:22
pass on to your kids. DNA lasts for hundreds of 1000s of years.
1:45:27
And it can last for generations if you pass it on to your kids.
1:45:30
Right? So alterations to the DNA, they stick around. RNA by
1:45:36
its nature is temporary. It doesn't last. And that feature
1:45:41
of RNA was part of the sales pitch for the vaccine.
1:45:44
Adam Curry: There it is, it was part of the sales pitch wasn't
1:45:47
DNA was mRNA.
1:45:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but there were right. The mRNA is what is
1:45:53
supposed to be in this shot, the D, the D, the DNA in there is
1:45:58
just a because it's careless, sloppy,
1:46:01
Adam Curry: well, not entirely, it's a little a little
1:46:03
different. And this is, I think, the killer clip,
1:46:07
Unknown: the way you do RNA transcription in vitro
1:46:10
transcription reactions, you have to give it a DNA template,
1:46:13
okay. And you can give it a DNA template that is just a
1:46:17
synthetic piece of DNA, that is only the instructions to make
1:46:21
the RNA. And that's what was done for getting the emergency
1:46:26
use authorization and the clinical trial. That's called
1:46:29
process one, if you look up that kind of stuff. They made a PCR
1:46:33
product of just the bits that they wanted. And then they did
1:46:36
the in vitro transcription and made a bunch of RNA that there
1:46:38
was no plasmid DNA to contaminate the stuff that was
1:46:42
used for the trial. But that, that making that PCR product
1:46:46
doesn't scale, the way that was necessary to vaccinate the whole
1:46:50
world. So a cheaper way to scale up the production of this
1:46:54
template is to clone that PCR product into this plasmid vector
1:46:58
that the plasmid vector into bacteria, and then grow up big
1:47:00
vats of bacteria. They make a lot of the plasmid DNA for you
1:47:03
then use that plasmid DNA as the template to drive this
1:47:07
transcription reaction to make your RNA. And that's where how
1:47:11
the contamination ended up in the production batches, even
1:47:14
though it was not in the stuff that was used for the
1:47:18
authorization trials.
1:47:19
John C Dvorak: That's that's, again, again, it was
1:47:23
contamination. Yeah, no, of
1:47:24
Adam Curry: course it was. But the reason why is the vaccine
1:47:28
might have been safer or completely safe for the
1:47:31
emergency youth or use authorization. But then when
1:47:35
they went into production, they did it a different way. And that
1:47:38
code goes back to what you just
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: said to lab versus field stuff. And then why
1:47:45
blew up out here,
1:47:46
Adam Curry: don't worry about it's all good. Not a problem.
1:47:49
And the end I don't have I'm not gonna play clip at the end. The
1:47:52
only other thing was interesting that he said, is that he tested
1:47:56
multiple batches of Pfizer, and he says Maderna had much less
1:48:00
DNA and what they had done is they tried to get rid of the DNA
1:48:04
by slicing it slicing it slicing and just left a lot of bits in
1:48:07
there but by his by his own testimony, it doesn't matter how
1:48:11
much is in there as long as it's in there it through the lipo
1:48:14
lipo lipid, lipid nanoparticles, it will fuse with your own DNA
1:48:20
even if it's just a little bit he talked about buckshot doesn't
1:48:22
really matter. But he said some doses had much lower DNA amounts
1:48:29
in it with so technically less chance that you'd get it and
1:48:32
some had much more very high. And that might explain the
1:48:37
stories we've seen about certain people who got certain batches
1:48:41
having more adverse events. That was my takeaway from what he was
1:48:46
saying. So this to me, this is this is a very big deal. Yeah, I
1:48:54
thought so. And they and heads should roll. Death is gonna
1:48:59
happen
1:49:05
nothing's gonna happen. Oh, no.
1:49:09
John C Dvorak: He says he says we're on the topic. Since
1:49:11
nothing's gonna happen. You might as well play Fauci in the
1:49:14
CIA. Oh, yeah. And about this
1:49:16
Unknown: is gonna happen. Dr. Anthony Fauci is now accused of
1:49:20
secretly visiting the CIA's headquarters during the
1:49:23
pandemic, where he allegedly tried to influence the agency's
1:49:27
official findings in their investigation into the origins
1:49:30
of the pandemic. That's according to US Representative
1:49:34
from Ohio Brad wenstrup, the chairman of the House Select
1:49:38
Subcommittee on the Coronavirus pandemic, who described the
1:49:41
concerning information in a letter he sent to the inspector
1:49:44
general of the Department of Health and Human Services.
1:49:47
Earlier I spoke with physician and former US ambassador Dr.
1:49:51
Jeff Gunter. He's also currently running for the US Senate in
1:49:55
Nevada, Dr. Gunther, great to have you on our show. Thanks so
1:49:58
much for coming on as a doc Sir and an experienced diplomat. How
1:50:02
do you view the allegations that Dr. Anthony Fauci attempted to
1:50:05
influence the CIA's investigation into the origins
1:50:08
of COVID-19?
1:50:09
I don't give a solution or an answer, just like Yogi Berra did
1:50:13
the famous baseball coach. It's deja vu all over again. None of
1:50:18
this is particularly surprising to me. During my medical school
1:50:21
years, I was cutting my teeth during HIV from 83 to 87. I
1:50:26
remember Dr. Fauci then, when I was heading up the US Embassy.
1:50:32
Thanks to our great President Donald Trump, I let the team
1:50:36
know that I believed that this virus came from a bat to a
1:50:39
bottle and somehow got out of the lab back then. Then when I
1:50:43
read the emails of various scientists going and talking to
1:50:48
Fauci before he published that Article of the proximal origins
1:50:52
of COVID. In nature, one of the premier journals, which clearly
1:50:56
now was a misdirection of the American public, it's not
1:50:59
surprising, it's Fauci, deja vu all over again, it's sad, it's
1:51:04
disheartening. The American public deserves a need to know
1:51:07
the truth about the worst pandemic the world has ever
1:51:10
seen.
1:51:13
Adam Curry: So also, it's like, and nothing will happen. Yes.
1:51:18
Nothing will happen. Yeah. It's just another story to be
1:51:21
subjugated. Or another story for this show averted by Taylor
1:51:25
Swift news.
1:51:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, there's
1:51:28
Adam Curry: a second clip gotta get worse.
1:51:31
Unknown: View. Are there any indications of political or
1:51:34
national security motives behind the alleged suppression of the
1:51:37
lab leak theory by public health authorities?
1:51:41
It's a fantastic question that we all know that when you mix
1:51:44
medicine, with politics, what do you get? You get politics. It
1:51:49
was so obvious when it happened. When COVID came out to me that
1:51:53
it was a lab leaked and turns out that it was being funded by
1:51:56
Fauci So absolutely, absolutely. They're trying to craft the
1:52:00
narrative. More people died with COVID with Joe Biden than they
1:52:05
did with President Trump.
1:52:06
Adam Curry: I love the died with COVID Doesn't mean you died of
1:52:09
COVID. But you had COVID.
1:52:11
Unknown: The jury's still out on the effectiveness of vaccines.
1:52:14
They say that it limits hospitalizations, and severe
1:52:17
illness. There's no evidence to show that it makes you less
1:52:20
infectious to the other people. I just checked the CDC
1:52:23
hospitalizations for COVID right now in Nevada, they're not
1:52:27
significantly high. deaths are down. So what does that tell
1:52:31
you? It tells you that there's an election coming up, it tells
1:52:34
you that when you mix politics with medicine, especially with
1:52:37
this administration, you get politics.
1:52:42
Adam Curry: All right. I'll try and top it before we take a
1:52:45
break. Well, I
1:52:46
John C Dvorak: have two more clips. About this about COVID.
1:52:51
Three more COVID clips actually, I loaded up on COVID Today your
1:52:55
Adam Curry: it dude you're you're seething with COVID.
1:53:00
John C Dvorak: But these are historical clips. Okay, these
1:53:04
are from 2021.
1:53:07
Adam Curry: We love that
1:53:09
John C Dvorak: when the Delta was just coming out, and they
1:53:12
were arguing about what to do about the shot and delta and
1:53:17
Adam Curry: the delta delta variant. Yes, the Delta verta
1:53:20
Delta
1:53:21
John C Dvorak: variant and it was they were besides themselves
1:53:23
and all kinds of different ways. They were tying themselves into
1:53:26
knots over the Delta because it was creating something if you
1:53:30
remember, this word is a term that we forgot. Breakthrough.
1:53:36
Adam Curry: Oh, breakthrough infection. Yes, yes. It broke
1:53:39
through the vaccination. You got
1:53:41
John C Dvorak: a vaccine, you got your booster, you got your
1:53:43
second shot, you got your booster, and then you got COVID,
1:53:46
which everybody seems to have got done. And that at the time,
1:53:50
the first time he started to show up these were called
1:53:53
breakthroughs. Yeah, and it was disconcerning Oh, my God have
1:53:57
another breakthrough. And then eventually, they stopped using
1:54:01
the word because it was meaningless because everybody
1:54:03
got the shot, they got COVID. So let's play a couple of these
1:54:07
historic clips from 2021.
1:54:10
Unknown: More of the modified mRNA technology behind Maderna
1:54:14
and Pfizer's COVID vaccines is how easy it is to update. All
1:54:19
you have to do is reprogram a string of genetic
1:54:22
Adam Curry: code and voila. Update just like Windows 11
1:54:26
could make
1:54:27
Unknown: a new vaccine tailored to fight dangerous new strains
1:54:30
of the virus. But the booster shots that the White House wants
1:54:33
to roll out next month likely will not be re engineered
1:54:37
against the ultra contagious Delta very ultra contemplatively
1:54:41
urs Angus Chen joined Bob oaks to talk about why and he started
1:54:45
by explaining how the technology works.
1:54:48
The mRNA base vaccines from Pfizer and Madonna and also the
1:54:51
Johnson Johnson DNA base vaccine all contain a string of genetic
1:54:54
code based on the original coronaviruses mycoprotein. Our
1:54:58
cells use that code To make this by protein, and then they build
1:55:02
immune molecules that can neutralize it. The thing is,
1:55:04
this string of code is easily reprogrammed. So vaccine makers
1:55:08
can rewrite it and make it based on the Delta genetics or any
1:55:12
other variant you might want to counter. It's also not a big
1:55:15
deal for the manufacturing side, because you don't really have to
1:55:17
change what you're doing to make that updated vaccine.
1:55:20
So if it's that straightforward, Angus, how come the booster
1:55:23
shots are unlikely to be updated?
1:55:26
Well, I spoke with the Harvard I mean, I'll just Dr. Dan Baruch,
1:55:29
about this. And he said, updating the vaccine should
1:55:32
theoretically provide better protection against Delta. But in
1:55:35
reality, it probably wouldn't make a big difference. And
1:55:38
that's because delta isn't that different from the ancestral
1:55:41
Coronavirus and its physical shape and form. So the
1:55:44
antibodies from the original vaccine should still work
1:55:47
against it. Dr. Brooke thinks there's another reason why delta
1:55:51
is causing cases among vaccinated people.
1:55:54
Adam Curry: Wow, they've been so good. You're doing this because
1:55:57
it's good to remember how they've been lying for years
1:56:00
years on end
1:56:02
John C Dvorak: and coming out licking themselves.
1:56:04
Adam Curry: No, I think me I'm throwing some Taylor Swift news.
1:56:07
People forget. And they want to forget we've been so traumatized
1:56:11
by this. I think people are twitching, just listening to
1:56:14
these clips.
1:56:16
John C Dvorak: I like again, I'll go back to I don't think
1:56:18
they're lying. I think they're dead, sincere and stupid.
1:56:22
Adam Curry: Well, yes, dummies abound. Dr. Brown
1:56:25
John C Dvorak: means no money. No continue Part Two long clips.
1:56:30
Unknown: long one.
1:56:31
Dr. Baruch thinks there's another reason why delta is
1:56:34
causing cases among vaccinated people.
1:56:36
The increased breakthroughs with the Delta variant is probably
1:56:41
more related to its hyper infectiousness rather than its
1:56:45
intrinsic ability to evade
1:56:47
Adam Curry: antibodies. The breakthrough
1:56:49
Unknown: basically, when you're infected with a Delta variant,
1:56:52
you end up breathing out a lot more virus than you would have
1:56:55
the old virus, it's a lot more transported in the mass stop
1:56:59
that dismissible as well and guess people are both more
1:57:02
likely to be exposed to it and be exposed to more of it.
1:57:08
There's even a small benefit from using an updated vaccine as
1:57:11
a booster than why shouldn't it be developed? And why shouldn't
1:57:15
we take it?
1:57:17
Part of the issue is right now there are millions of vaccine
1:57:20
doses in storage across Yeah, they are effective against the
1:57:24
Delta variance while stocks last especially when it comes to
1:57:27
preventing severe illness or death in general right now, and
1:57:31
might drop public faith in those doses, which concerns Dr.
1:57:34
Benjamin Linus, he's an epidemiologist at Boston
1:57:37
University stop
1:57:37
John C Dvorak: a second, you gotta hit what he just said was,
1:57:41
well, there was a lot of inventory left. And then if we
1:57:44
don't give that as the cure for delta two, it will make people
1:57:48
lose confidence in that early shot. Because because it's not
1:57:55
good enough, and then the inventory, our shoes will go the
1:57:58
inventory and people are going to lose confidence. And that's
1:58:01
going to make it even slower to get their first shot. And yeah,
1:58:05
we can like this. Like, it's like they're running a game on
1:58:07
the public, you
1:58:08
Adam Curry: don't want to sell the new Yeezys until the old
1:58:10
ones are off the shelf.
1:58:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you gotta get this marketing 101.
1:58:14
Unknown: I don't know what message it would give if they
1:58:16
said, Oh, we have a new highly specially engineered vaccine for
1:58:19
Delta. Does that generate concern that the original
1:58:22
vaccine didn't work against delta, which is absolutely not
1:58:25
true.
1:58:25
Adam Curry: And I want to remind people, I think we were pretty
1:58:28
much doing this deconstruction when it was taking place. That's
1:58:30
why we still get notes from people saying, Man, I'm glad I
1:58:33
was listening to you guys. Because we were breaking this
1:58:36
marketing story down continuously.
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these are our old clips.
1:58:42
Unknown: Linus and other health experts I spoke with said the
1:58:44
goal right now is really to vaccinate as many people as we
1:58:47
can, in the United States and in the rest of the world, using a
1:58:51
vaccine that still works is a better way to do that than
1:58:53
waiting for an incremental gain and efficacy that we might get
1:58:57
from an updated vaccine. When Angus,
1:58:59
don't you think that any COVID booster shot updated or not, is
1:59:03
going to be greeted with skepticism from some members of
1:59:06
the public reluctant to take it
1:59:08
Adam Curry: perhaps those pesky podcasters might be all over
1:59:12
this marketing scam?
1:59:14
Unknown: Yeah, it's definitely possible. I mean, vaccine
1:59:16
skepticism has been something that is what's grown has been
1:59:20
going on for quite some time. Oh, yeah. podcasters. I don't
1:59:23
think a booster shot is going to change that or do anything to
1:59:28
really fix that. I think what a booster shot does do is it helps
1:59:33
people who might really need that extra protection to stay
1:59:36
safe against a Delta variant. I think what's a more important
1:59:39
question when it comes to booster shots is whether or not
1:59:42
the shots would be better put to use by sending them, you know,
1:59:46
around the world or around the country to people who are
1:59:49
unvaccinated and want to be vaccinated but haven't had the
1:59:52
access or the ability to do that yet. And I think that's
1:59:55
something that public health experts and officials are going
1:59:58
to continue to grapple with in Think about for some time.
2:00:01
That's WBUR is Angus Chen speaking with Bobux
2:00:06
Adam Curry: Oost. All right. Can I Are you done?
2:00:12
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna be done. Yeah, I have one more
2:00:15
thing that did. Similar but it's about the ivermectin bowl crap
2:00:19
and I'm going to leave that. Save that for another show.
2:00:23
Adam Curry: Good before we take this break. I think I figured
2:00:25
out the F 35. Ejection up. I'm calling an OP now to be so what
2:00:34
we know is the pilot was very experienced. He was one of the
2:00:40
top top pilots.
2:00:42
John C Dvorak: I know this if you're gonna do an OP, you want
2:00:45
your top men?
2:00:46
Adam Curry: Of course you do.
2:00:48
John C Dvorak: You know what some slouches is going to screw
2:00:50
it up.
2:00:51
Adam Curry: Right? So he injects the plane continues to fly until
2:00:58
it crashes back and we heard all the things I was on autopilot.
2:01:01
We had that cool guy. I mean, I at this point, I'm pretty sure
2:01:06
that the the witness the eyewitness who saw this guy this
2:01:18
that he may not have been paid for but he was in on it. He
2:01:23
would maybe not knowingly shill the ship was he was the shill.
2:01:28
So the thing that bothered me the most on the last episode was
2:01:31
the 911 call. It's like why are you why are you not calling HQ.
2:01:38
Now some of the jet jocks who I talked to said, Well, he was
2:01:42
kind of the top guy, so maybe he would have had to call himself
2:01:45
I'm not quite buying that. But we did get confirmation from a
2:01:50
9911 call taker dispatcher says having listened to the reported
2:01:54
911 Call from F 35 pod who objected? I believe it to be a
2:01:58
legitimate recording of the incident and I put the this
2:02:01
anonymous 911 dispatchers.
2:02:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I raised that. Yeah, it's okay. I legit
2:02:09
so sounds legit.
2:02:10
Adam Curry: Sounds legit. But this reminded another one of our
2:02:14
F jet jocks have a scene from Top Gun two. And the scene in
2:02:25
Top Gun two is Tom Cruise has now rejected from this
2:02:29
experimental aircraft. Sound familiar? And he doesn't call
2:02:34
911. But to make it a little funnier. He walks into this HC
2:02:38
diner. Here he is. He's walking in. The bell was ringing. He
2:02:44
points and he's looking all haggard. And all blowed up. And
2:02:47
he's asking for a glass of water. And you know, it's just a
2:02:51
dine all the people are looking at him like where did this guy
2:02:53
come from in his spacesuit? days drinking his water. Where am I?
2:03:04
And the little kid says you're on Earth thinking he's a
2:03:07
spaceman. So that would be the equivalent of the 911 call.
2:03:12
totally unbelievable that you walk into a diner and with your
2:03:17
spacesuit on and you're all dirty from ejection and you know
2:03:21
from explosion, and you're there give me some water and where am
2:03:25
I Earth? The next scene. The very next scene. He is in with I
2:03:31
think was paid, played by was named Edie. Whatever he's he's
2:03:35
the commander. And he's berating Tom Cruise. He's saying what is
2:03:39
going on with you? You have all these commendations. You should
2:03:43
have been a senator or an admiral bribe right now. Why are
2:03:46
you still doing this? Why are you a captain?
2:03:48
Unknown: You should be at least a two star Admiral by now. If
2:03:51
not a senator.
2:03:53
Yeah, here you our
2:03:56
captain Blaze. It's one of life's mysteries, sir. This
2:04:02
isn't a joke. I asked you a question. Sir. Well, the Navy
2:04:09
doesn't see it that way. Not anymore.
2:04:14
These planes you've been testing captain. One day sooner than
2:04:19
later. They won't need pilots at all. pilots need to sleep. He
2:04:24
take a purse. Pilots that disobey orders. All you did was
2:04:30
buy some time for those men out there. The future is coming. And
2:04:36
you're not in it.
2:04:37
Adam Curry: I believe this to be a script. To let people know
2:04:41
that the biggest problem the plane wasn't the problem. It was
2:04:44
the loser pilot. And the military industrial complex is
2:04:48
going to come out with something sooner or later to let us know
2:04:52
that you know, we really don't need pilots anymore. We have the
2:04:55
new F 35. No, it doesn't need a pilot. I think This was life
2:05:01
imitates art.
2:05:04
John C Dvorak: It's an interesting theory. I know,
2:05:06
You've been bitching and moaning for probably 10 years about the
2:05:09
pilotless airplane this plane.
2:05:12
Adam Curry: Yeah. Hey, if the F 35 pilot can't even keep it
2:05:15
going, I mean, we shouldn't have those guys. We should not you
2:05:18
are not in the future of aviation. So I don't know. I
2:05:24
just ran it by the F guys and they all like, you know, they've
2:05:28
been they've been trying to get to this for a long time.
2:05:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
2:05:34
Adam Curry: it is a goal. So we'll see. There's no
2:05:38
John C Dvorak: other member the one time I was sad, I was sad. I
2:05:40
think it was Nellis in Vegas. I was getting a tour. And they
2:05:45
were proud of they had these drones they're just on display
2:05:49
and they went on and on about how great this drones were
2:05:52
because yeah, I took took the red flag course whatever it was
2:05:59
called, I got the sit in. And it the drones are better because
2:06:03
there's no you're not going to kill these. Do these pilots. You
2:06:06
put a lot of money into one of these guys and he gets killed it
2:06:10
that's money down the drain.
2:06:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's annoying.
2:06:15
John C Dvorak: It's annoying, very pious, not too happy.
2:06:20
Adam Curry: With that, I want to thank you for your currency in
2:06:22
the morning to you the man who put the seeds in Fauci in the
2:06:24
CIA ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other
2:06:27
end the one and only name on the ball Mr. Johnson
2:06:34
John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam curry.
2:06:37
Also in the morning airship see boots to the ground feed near
2:06:39
subs in the water and over Dames and nights out there. And in the
2:06:42
Adam Curry: morning patrols in the troll room, sir bemrose
2:06:44
stopped doing that. People are trying to count the trolls
2:06:48
before it's time to count the trolls. I already counted the
2:06:50
trolls. We had 1925 before we would have taken our break.
2:06:55
Don't do that. Let me count them.
2:07:02
So we have what is the count at this moment is 1862. But it was
2:07:07
1925 10 minutes ago.
2:07:10
John C Dvorak: That is 62 is the average.
2:07:13
Adam Curry: But it was above it was above that average,
2:07:16
John C Dvorak: but it probably was always above it.
2:07:18
Adam Curry: But you know, it has to sit there like oh, I can
2:07:20
count the drawers. I've got the power. And he ruins the whole
2:07:24
count. It's like telling offline. Yeah, don't do that
2:07:28
Heisenberg
2:07:29
John C Dvorak: Principle.
2:07:33
Adam Curry: Okay, now he's repenting. I'm sorry, I scared a
2:07:36
bunch of them off. Yeah, you did. Hey, those trolls are in
2:07:39
the troll room troll. room.io This is where you can listen to
2:07:41
the show live on Thursdays and Sundays. But it's 24 hours a
2:07:44
day. And there's always a good podcast on no agenda. stream.com
2:07:49
It's all talk no commercials. Actually, it's not all talk
2:07:52
because we have Darren Oh, who does the rock'n'roll priests pre
2:07:55
show before every no agenda for two hours. It's where everybody
2:07:59
hangs out. And you go to the troll room. There's always
2:08:01
people sitting around hanging out. Sometimes they're listening
2:08:05
to the show. Sometimes they're not. But during this show they
2:08:09
are and they're they're trolling around doing all kinds of
2:08:12
trollee stuff. Some of them even rage quitting. That's what
2:08:15
trolls do. Now, you
2:08:17
John C Dvorak: could also follow the Taylor Swift Yeah,
2:08:20
Adam Curry: you just lost a listener, man. So let's make
2:08:24
sure we're Polonius. Never.
2:08:26
John C Dvorak: I was actually surprised we did the store. I
2:08:28
mean, I was prepared for it because I because of that. My
2:08:32
mention of them not walking out holding hands was they were
2:08:35
really,
2:08:36
Adam Curry: it was a genius segway I took us from from a
2:08:39
classic clip right into COVID. Come on. That was programming.
2:08:45
John C Dvorak: He would love to be complimented.
2:08:47
Adam Curry: No, I don't. I'm complimenting myself. I don't
2:08:49
need any help from you.
2:08:51
John C Dvorak: But that's true. You don't need any help. You
2:08:53
don't need to be complimented. But if you feel like
2:08:55
Adam Curry: it, I mean, do whatever you want. It's all good
2:08:57
by me. You can also follow us on our Mastodon instance, which is
2:09:05
quite private, since we've been blocked by everybody else and
2:09:09
John C Dvorak: everybody. Every other Mastodon instance thinks
2:09:11
we suck.
2:09:13
Adam Curry: Do whatever you want. We're bad. It's all good.
2:09:16
You can follow Jhansi DeVore I could no agenda social.com Adam
2:09:19
at no agenda social.com. And we're always there kind of
2:09:23
hanging out seeing what's going on and posting stuff and getting
2:09:27
stories. Sometimes you guys have good stories. And the memes are
2:09:30
down. It's good. No more No more memes. I'm happy about this.
2:09:34
John C Dvorak: I'm not happy.
2:09:36
Adam Curry: This is a value for value. Podcast. We came up with
2:09:40
the name we invented the concept. We discovered quite by
2:09:43
accident almost 16 years ago that asking asking people to
2:09:51
subscribe for premium content or just some low number which does
2:09:56
not represent the amount of work that goes into it the value It's
2:10:00
only going to be a few people anyway, it's only three 4%. So
2:10:03
you might as well say, Hey, what is it worth to you? And we were
2:10:06
surprised when we saw that thing, certainly during COVID
2:10:09
When people like, well, you know, my life was worth quite a
2:10:11
lot. Thanks. Appreciate that. I'm gonna give you more than
2:10:15
five bucks. And that's how we've been running it. And we'll be
2:10:19
celebrating 16 years coming up in October, around October, I
2:10:24
think the end of October the 20th or something?
2:10:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, at the very beginning, we were suckered by
2:10:31
the notion that if Joey didn't blame you didn't last long.
2:10:36
Which was the idea that well, if you're going to, you know, I
2:10:39
think we had, I don't know how many 1000 people probably 50.
2:10:43
Maybe at the most Yeah. But if you had 50,000 people, and they
2:10:49
all gave two bucks,
2:10:50
Adam Curry: we were not we were driving Lambos $1,000 a month,
2:10:55
in our mind, we had Lambos.
2:10:57
John C Dvorak: That's a lot of money if you know, and two bucks
2:11:00
is cheap. So the 50,000 people would say, oh, it's only two
2:11:04
bucks. So I'm going to as if 50,000 People are going to pay
2:11:09
two bucks, 10 bucks, no buy depth, no bucks, that they'll do
2:11:13
that. No, no, it's not even close to possible. And then we
2:11:17
started noticing that people would giving their favorite
2:11:20
numbers, they were just making up numbers numerology was some
2:11:24
stories involved on this number, you know this, and that means to
2:11:27
this to that to my wife, or whatever. And we realized that
2:11:30
open ended is the way to do it. Yeah. And forget these little,
2:11:35
you know, the idea that everyone's going to chip in
2:11:38
because they don't know never will.
2:11:40
Adam Curry: You know what's interesting, I've been I've
2:11:42
course follow the the slow collapse of the podcast,
2:11:45
industrial complex kit, your favorite thing to do? Yes. And
2:11:50
so potremmo is a Swedish company. And they raised a lot
2:11:54
of venture capital, like 160 million euros, and they've gone
2:11:58
all around Europe, and they're buying up all the podcasts,
2:12:01
buying up all the podcasts, and putting them behind the paywall.
2:12:05
And so now there's a problem. And the problem so they get see
2:12:10
the problem already? Well, well, problem one is, so they had to
2:12:13
convert a number of people from the free podcast, they're not
2:12:18
free, but open and available with ads or whatever they were
2:12:21
doing, or No, I don't know what they're doing to pay money. So I
2:12:25
think that they literally are doing five euros a month for
2:12:27
their entire offering. But now they can't get any new people
2:12:32
in. Because they have no product that is open.
2:12:36
John C Dvorak: It's not discoverable Exactly. Ever
2:12:38
ability is the top thing you need, especially in new media.
2:12:42
Adam Curry: Exactly. And so they have to do like in person
2:12:45
appearances and set up a tent and do the show from a from a
2:12:49
market, a market square. And then to get people interested in
2:12:55
the show, you can't you can't get in, of course, they only got
2:12:58
maybe 5% of the people went from, from you know, hey, this
2:13:02
is a cool product or listen to an ad or I don't think anyone
2:13:04
was doing value for value to five euros a month, which by the
2:13:07
way is the first thing to go. When things get tight. You with
2:13:12
us? It's like people come and go, like I'm in it and then I
2:13:16
don't listen for a while man overboard. And then oh man, I
2:13:19
really feel nervous. I don't I feel jittery. I gotta listen to
2:13:22
no agenda and get get a fix. And then people come back, you know,
2:13:26
give give back the value when you feel like it when you're
2:13:29
ready for it.
2:13:29
John C Dvorak: However, a lot of people that haven't come back
2:13:31
from what I can tell.
2:13:33
Adam Curry: Now they come back. A lot of people come back. They
2:13:37
do.
2:13:38
John C Dvorak: Or anonymous lesbian.
2:13:40
Adam Curry: Ghost that was that was your handler? I don't know.
2:13:43
She was your contact.
2:13:46
John C Dvorak: She moved to New York. Now there. Well. Now
2:13:48
there's your answer, isn't it? That is the answer. Surrounded
2:13:52
by the milieu. Yeah, the milieu is more powerful than the show.
2:13:58
Adam Curry: So we only ask for value to be returned. Whenever
2:14:02
you feel that you've received enough value and how you do it
2:14:05
is up to you. We do have three categories time, talent, and
2:14:08
treasure. And we have a lot of people putting in a lot of time,
2:14:12
you know, writing us reports and corresponding with us, going out
2:14:16
hitting people in the mouth, or organizing meetups. There's lots
2:14:20
of things you can do with your time talent is fantastic when
2:14:23
you see what the artists are doing, especially since i i was
2:14:26
moaning about the use of AI. But the artists have finally come
2:14:31
back and started to do stuff by hand and it with it with their
2:14:34
tools not relying on the crutch of a copying machine to do stuff
2:14:40
that makes it all look very pretty, but makes everything
2:14:44
subsequently boringly pretty and they're like drones like
2:14:48
non-playing characters in a row. And Paul couture artists number
2:14:54
one number one on the on the no agenda Art Generator. He nailed
2:15:00
it. He had such a great piece. Now we did it. We did have some
2:15:06
discussion about things. We looked at a number of pieces.
2:15:09
But this cautiousness episode may cause sudden death. I think
2:15:15
we I think was good at warned people can make a lot of people
2:15:17
who said, Hey, man, I'm not dead, but it really freaked my
2:15:21
dog out. Or hey, man, I have a headache now because of that
2:15:25
tone that you played. Apparently, no, no one died. No
2:15:29
one died.
2:15:30
John C Dvorak: And no one got a headache from it. No one said he
2:15:33
got a headache. They said
2:15:35
Adam Curry: he said he got a headache. And it was it was a
2:15:37
cool looking piece of high frequencies. It had the little
2:15:42
antenna there was it was a fun little warning sticker. Yeah.
2:15:47
And
2:15:47
John C Dvorak: it was different. It was totally alien to what
2:15:49
we'd normally been doing. Yeah. Which is why we want some
2:15:52
variety in this. This is extreme variety. is a sign that kind of
2:15:56
sign that you go to a sign maker. Do highway signs.
2:16:01
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah.
2:16:03
John C Dvorak: And then this is very different.
2:16:05
Adam Curry: That you'd like the melon girl which I'm sure you
2:16:07
use in the newsletter. Use the the melon grow, which I
2:16:11
understand why you'd like that piece.
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: That's a good piece. It's a girl holding a
2:16:15
melon. Yes. What more did you want from a piece? This is
2:16:19
really Oh, eight on the melon.
2:16:22
Adam Curry: We looked at the human mulch from damage that can
2:16:27
happen. Yeah, but you know what? It wasn't an AI piece. That's
2:16:30
what I liked. Like Oh, thanks. You did some work. It just
2:16:32
wasn't what we wanted didn't quite work. Damn Kenny Ben also
2:16:38
did the Chicago tent. I think the the clown part is what
2:16:43
didn't make that one work. Because you know, we know who he
2:16:45
is. Remember because this was based on the base camp tents in
2:16:49
Chicago with with the asylum seekers. And she made a circus
2:16:55
tent like a
2:16:57
John C Dvorak: Chicago on it. Yeah, it does say Chicago on it.
2:16:59
Tent City. Doesn't say you said what doesn't work to clown
2:17:03
there's no clown.
2:17:04
Adam Curry: It was a circus tent like clown world type type deal.
2:17:07
To me. It was confusing. It didn't quite show.
2:17:11
John C Dvorak: Oh no, it didn't work at all.
2:17:14
Adam Curry: Thanks. That's what I'm trying to say it didn't
2:17:15
work. You lie. You
2:17:19
John C Dvorak: have a new guy that obviously showed up. pet
2:17:22
rocks or pet racks who did put our pictures on the save you?
2:17:26
That's an automatic? No. So forget it. Yeah, we don't we
2:17:31
stopped doing that and show 200 I think yeah, the first year of
2:17:36
have no agenda art. Yeah, it became Nasher when Randy Asher
2:17:41
and Paul couture were doing it pretty much by themselves. It
2:17:44
was nothing but pictures of us
2:17:46
Adam Curry: in general. We don't like pictures of people. I mean,
2:17:50
really, generally some and certainly not politicians. I can
2:17:53
already see. You know, someone's done. Justin Trudeau is Hitler.
2:17:56
It's just not Not gonna happen.
2:17:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it's and it's that's a cliche. Yeah.
2:18:01
Adam Curry: You'd like the Burma Shave, which was from Parker
2:18:04
Polly.
2:18:05
John C Dvorak: It would have been better if it had some punch
2:18:07
line. At the end, it didn't have a punch line. Exactly. It would
2:18:10
have said something something something no agenda be the way
2:18:13
that model should be. I also like to train No, but that's
2:18:16
just a pure evergreen piece in probably does have some AI in
2:18:20
it.
2:18:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty piece that is
2:18:24
definitely an evergreen networks, of course,
2:18:26
professionals. But just looking at the overview. You can see
2:18:32
John C Dvorak: it was a good selection. Yeah. And I thought
2:18:34
there were at least three or four pieces we could have used
2:18:36
now scroll,
2:18:37
Adam Curry: scroll down, like to the almost to the bottom of that
2:18:41
page and go look at the submissions for 1591. And that's
2:18:45
and you see the difference. Everything AI on that page. And
2:18:50
it's been becomes boring. You know, and when people use their,
2:18:56
their, their God given
2:18:58
John C Dvorak: 5091 Is the selection sucks.
2:19:01
Adam Curry: Yeah. If although everything's pretty and
2:19:03
everything's you know, I
2:19:04
John C Dvorak: don't even think that's true. Looking back at it.
2:19:06
Yeah.
2:19:07
Adam Curry: But and this is this is this is the danger. Well, I
2:19:11
have some I have some fun AI stuff we can talk about later.
2:19:16
We can fight over it. But thank you very much, Sir Paul couture,
2:19:21
who of course also runs and has set up and run for my goodness,
2:19:26
how many years now? The the Art Generator. And how many years
2:19:29
I've been running this but well over 12 years, I would say no
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