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John C Dvorak: Putting your mind
instead of saying you bet say
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Unknown: This is no agenda.
We're counting to
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Adam Curry: seven and
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where they're
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cheering something. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
0:29
Unknown: Buzzkill.
0:33
Adam Curry: What are they
cheering in northern Silicon
0:35
Valley?
0:36
John C Dvorak: It's 40. Niners
Oh, okay.
0:39
Adam Curry: in Rotterdam,
they're cheering to. To what?
0:43
Oh, it's Palestinians on the
street. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, no.
0:48
This is true. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. All over Europe. They do
0:52
this by a Palestinian flag. I
mean, off it's I wouldn't say
0:55
it's Palestinians. I mean, it's
not even a country but okay.
0:59
They're waving the Palestine
flag. And, and celebrating and
1:05
hooting and Hoot and hooting and
hollering Oh yeah. So this is
1:09
one of those days when it's like
I love doing the show but it's
1:14
all these types of events that
happen particularly when it
1:17
involves Israel become so
polarizing and and also amongst
1:24
the no agenda nation and people
go nuts
1:31
John C Dvorak: I'm well we have
these issues once in a while I
1:34
do have some clips from NBC. But
when it began, I thought that
1:38
NBC did I think a very good job
of covering the whole thing
1:42
because they had of course
Richard angle
1:44
Adam Curry: da so they had the
spook angle from angle
1:47
John C Dvorak: and find it and
the great thing is I've got
1:49
these four clips, and it was
really the whole show but they
1:54
they bring Engel in they
actually have this really good
1:57
foreign correspondent now this
guy I think is Rafa or Ralph
2:00
Garcia, I think is our Lopez.
He's good. He's on the scene.
2:09
He's giving actual reports. He's
not making stuff up. He's not
2:13
giving CIA talking. Please
2:15
Adam Curry: come on and be it's
NBC. Yeah, true. Okay, good. And
2:18
then
2:18
John C Dvorak: they cut to
Richard angle. And
2:20
Adam Curry: then the talking
points come in. Who's in
2:23
Istanbul,
2:24
which is where you are, which is
where you got to be if you have
2:27
important news from Israel.
2:30
John C Dvorak: So let's play
these clips and we'll get it
2:33
started.
2:34
Unknown: Good evening. We begin
tonight with one of America's
2:36
closest allies attacked and now
at war. The scenes this morning
2:40
across.
2:42
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
There is something is wrong with
2:45
this report right off the bat.
This makes no sense. I don't
2:49
understand. Because every single
report I have includes, you
2:53
know, you know, the important
sound effects
2:58
John C Dvorak: is coming. Oh,
it's coming. Okay. It's coming
3:00
on your horses,
3:02
Unknown: and unprecedented and
terrifying. Palestinian militant
3:06
group Hamas choosing a Jewish
holiday to launch an attack on
3:09
and into Israel. There was the
barrage of rockets into Israel,
3:14
but also incursions by
militants. These were the scenes
3:17
of commerce fighters storming
across and
3:20
Adam Curry: kudos kudos for the
Hamas pronunciation. I have to
3:23
say I'm very impressed Hamas is
spot on
3:26
Unknown: the border marauding
through the streets of Israel
3:29
come out confirming it has taken
an unconfirmed number of
3:33
hostages soldiers and civilians
dragged from the streets and
3:37
Israeli official calling today.
Their 911 Israel's response so
3:42
far has been swift but only just
beginning. They've already
3:46
leveled entire buildings in
Gaza. The territory this home to
3:50
Hamas, the death
3:53
Adam Curry: Hey, he messed it
up. He did a Hamas already
3:56
leveled
3:57
Unknown: entire buildings in
Gaza. The territory this home to
4:01
Hamas. Oh, he missed the Hamas.
The death toll is at least 200
4:05
people on each side and is
expected to rise. Our teams are
4:09
across the region and here in
the US. We begin with rough
4:13
patches on the ground in Israel.
4:15
Adam Curry: And I'd have to say
I have to point out as
4:16
John C Dvorak: well. This is
rough Sanchez, I get
4:20
Adam Curry: close. I point out
from the beginning. John and I
4:24
are evaluating this from a media
perspective. So please don't get
4:28
all bent out of shape saying
you're laughing at people dead
4:31
you're laughing at people being
tortured. No, we're not. No,
4:35
we're not. We are deconstructing
the media for you.
4:38
John C Dvorak: This morning the
head of the IDF came out and
4:41
gave new numbers which nobody
else has given no, he says the
4:46
Adam Curry: past we talk we just
have to have this underneath
4:48
says of 700
4:50
John C Dvorak: Dead Israeli so
far plus 2000 injured plus 100
4:53
hostages. And those are the base
numbers. I think those are the
4:56
more accurate ones. That's so we
bring sanch which is what was
5:00
the Sanchez fans? This guy's
good.
5:03
Adam Curry: All right more from
Sanchez. Here we go.
5:05
John C Dvorak: This guy's good.
Oh,
5:09
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Not only he's he's good, but
5:11
they've got the report setup.
Yeah, here we go. Here we go.
5:14
All right get ready for this
package
5:17
Unknown: it looks like a scene
from Israel's darkest nightmare.
5:21
John C Dvorak: A surprise by the
way, stop stop. So if you notice
5:24
there was saying, Oh, this is
their 911 This is their Pearl
5:27
Harbor. I can nobody says it's
there January sixth, which was
5:31
obviously worse,
5:32
Adam Curry: which was Oh, yeah.
Good point. Thank you.
5:43
Unknown: It looks like a scene
from Israel's darkest nightmare.
5:47
A surprise attack beginning with
1000s of rockets, followed by
5:51
waves of heavily armed
Palestinian gunmen pouring out
5:54
of Gaza. And onto the streets of
cities and towns across southern
5:59
Israel. The militants taking
whole families hostage, marching
6:04
them barefoot through their own
neighborhoods. And then Allah
6:09
cries of triumph as they spirit
their captives back to Gaza.
6:13
This woman, bloodied zip tied
and terrified, struggling as
6:17
she's forced into the back of a
captured Israeli military.
6:20
Adam Curry: Interesting. I don't
know if it was the same report,
6:24
but this this. This is a zip
tied and terrified. This is what
6:27
I'm hearing. I'm hearing this
everywhere zip ties and
6:30
terrified, very interesting
little meme they've created
6:33
here. zip tied and terrified,
has a nice ring to it. Well,
6:37
yeah, it's yes, of course it
does is this Media
6:40
Unknown: Woman bloody zip tied
and terrified, struggling as
6:44
she's forced into the back of a
captured Israeli military Jeep
6:48
and hear the body of an Israeli
soldier dragged from the turret
6:51
of a tank and beaten by the mob.
Israel's military tonight
6:56
confirming there are both
civilians and soldiers among the
6:59
captives. Their exact number is
unknown. But the army says all
7:05
options are on the table,
including a full scale ground
7:08
invasion of Gaza to bring them
home as Israel's Prime Minister
7:13
telling his people, citizens of
Israel, we are at war, not in an
7:18
operation. But at war. And every
hour the death toll rising,
7:23
these civilians killed at a bus
stop.
7:26
Adam Curry: Question. Because
this is interesting. He said
7:31
we're at we're at war not in an
operation. Yeah, that's
7:38
interesting.
7:39
John C Dvorak: That is
interesting to usage.
7:41
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, Russia
against Ukraine was special
7:46
operation, which I guess is not
a war. So there's a difference
7:50
between or maybe it's just, you
know, this is not an operation
7:54
short for up. It's almost as
long for block long for up. It's
7:59
almost like saying this is not
on our people. It's not up
8:02
John C Dvorak: like every time.
The other time, like most of the
8:06
times it's
8:07
Adam Curry: not an OP people.
This is war, full
8:09
Unknown: scale ground invasion
of Gaza to bring them home.
8:12
Because Israel's Prime Minister
telling his people, citizens of
8:17
Israel, we are at war, not in an
operation, but at war. And every
8:22
hour the death toll rising
8:24
Adam Curry: that's almost like
911 You know, they were in and
8:28
they were doing an OP a test up
and then it became live or
8:31
whatever. You know, there's
always interesting little little
8:33
parallels here.
8:34
Unknown: These civilians killed
at a bus stop. And in this
8:37
kibbutz victims packed into a
small room and executed at point
8:42
blank range. The surprise attack
led by highly trained fighters
8:46
from Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
blasting their way through the
8:52
security barrier separating
Israel from Gaza. In some places
8:56
using bulldozers to smash
through this unit fighting into
9:02
the areas border crossing the
main terminal between Israel and
9:06
Gaza, usually tightly controlled
by Israeli troops, the crossing
9:10
today, completely overrun by
Palestinian fighters. Israel's
9:14
military caught badly off guard
searching its forces into the
9:18
south fighting street by street
across more than 20 locations as
9:22
it tries to regain control.
9:25
Adam Curry: Now, there's
something I'm missing here in
9:26
this report, and I don't
understand because NPR had it
9:33
was NPR who had the the parent
the paragliders was that it was
9:40
that in this report?
9:41
John C Dvorak: It would this
report took the whole half hour
9:43
or so. There were some there
were shots of the parent at the
9:47
paraglider thing is still
somewhat I think, is somewhat
9:50
they've shown shots of it.
9:52
Adam Curry: Here's here's me. Do
you mind if I just play one
9:55
clip? Yeah, sure. Jump in.
Here's NPR.
9:57
Unknown: I mean for hours that
have just been shocking scenes
10:00
that have shocked Israelis and
Palestinians who've I've spoken
10:03
with, and this is still
unfolding. And it started this
10:06
morning early when heavily armed
Palestinian militants in Gaza
10:11
flew across the border on
paragliders. They swam through
10:15
the Mediterranean Sea, they
drove overland with pickup
10:18
trucks through Israel's
fortified border fence. And they
10:21
infiltrated several Israeli
military camps and at least five
10:26
Israeli communities near Gaza,
where there are gun battles. Now
10:29
with Israeli forces. That's
including the town of de wrote,
10:33
which we're hearing from Israeli
public broadcasting, there are
10:36
at least 10 bodies now covered
on the ground. And so at the
10:39
very same time, you have this
other kind of attack, which is
10:42
1000s of rockets fired from Gaza
toward southern and central,
10:46
I'll just stop it there.
10:48
Adam Curry: I saw the footage of
the these paragliders they have
10:51
footage of them getting ready of
them launching of them landing
10:57
and landing right into a base. I
mean, I was getting and by the
11:02
way, I think this has been
pulled. Well, every single one
11:06
of these shocking images that
the news is talking about comes
11:09
all from social media. I had
them all before they were
11:13
reporting on it, you know, from
the usual channels, and it's and
11:18
everyone's talking about the
same images. I mean, not saying
11:21
that bad stuff didn't happen,
but this is over and over again.
11:24
It's the same things. They don't
really
11:28
John C Dvorak: have any extra
paragliders stuff, which I found
11:31
to be weird.
11:32
Adam Curry: Well, there's
footage of it but it looks like
11:34
promo footage almost
11:35
John C Dvorak: was the footage
that I've seen footage of it
11:38
Yeah, and it's still stupid
11:39
Adam Curry: at home I'm sorry
we're not we're not doing our
11:41
report properly. Yeah. Still
stupid.
11:45
John C Dvorak: It's it's like
what's the point is the guy up
11:47
there shooting at 45 down at
people? What is this one guy
11:51
going to do a sneak he's going
to land in a base by in bed. No
11:54
one's going to notice and
they're not going to just gun
11:56
him down. It's this paraglider
thing
11:59
Adam Curry: this is exactly the
narrative this is exactly what
12:01
they're saying. The video shows
12:03
John C Dvorak: it's been pulled
I'm telling you you do your NPR
12:06
D you won't hear any more about
the paraglider I'm
12:08
Adam Curry: glad we got to be in
the swimming pool I know there's
12:15
some reports like that air air
air power you know this is a fan
12:20
strapped to your back by the way
I gotta get me one of these.
12:23
This is cool for the hill
country is flying around well,
12:26
it might be
12:26
John C Dvorak: if he got calm
weather it's no you don't want
12:30
to be used to be popular around
here. Those and some other
12:33
there's some other little super
lightweight thing that had a
12:36
little prop behind it. That's
12:38
Adam Curry: auto gyro. Yeah,
there's
12:39
John C Dvorak: still popular No,
no, I'm not sure I know what an
12:41
auto gyro is. I'm talking about
us. Super lightweight has a wing
12:46
right? Auto gyros used to also
be popular around here in the in
12:52
the Fremont area when it was all
agricultural and I was a kid
12:56
auto gyros are all over.
12:57
Adam Curry: I love auto gyros
these days are like little mini
13:00
cars.
13:01
John C Dvorak: They're blank.
Now these are called ultra light
13:03
weights. And they had a wing
13:07
Adam Curry: you know they had
the wing. Yeah, the fit the like
13:09
a delta delta wing. Big
13:11
John C Dvorak: giant thing.
Yeah. And they were I remember
13:14
about 20 years ago. There's a
whole slew of them flying around
13:17
the bay. But Bay this Bay Area's
not a place for any of these
13:22
things because we have these
gusts of wind and sometimes it
13:25
gets really windy and the all
these guys got killed.
13:28
Adam Curry: Oh, that's no good.
Well,
13:33
John C Dvorak: not much
different than a paraglider
13:34
which is another thing
13:36
Adam Curry: is a power power
guy. I don't think it's a
13:38
paraglider thing it's a they
13:39
John C Dvorak: kept calling him
Paragon Well, that's
13:41
Adam Curry: not that's not
correct.
13:42
John C Dvorak: What anyway, that
that I think you're not going to
13:45
hear anything about that
anymore. I think that was just
13:48
thrown in there. I don't know
why or why or what, but there's
13:52
an OP aspect to it. Let's go to
clip to power parachute.
13:55
Adam Curry: That's the actual
13:56
Unknown: Prime Minister
Netanyahu vowed to avenge the
13:59
attack by Hamas saying quote,
14:01
oh, sorry,
14:03
the enemy will pay a price like
they have never known before.
14:06
Chief foreign correspondent
Richard Engel joins us now
14:09
Richard, what likely happens
next?
14:11
Well, I think we're gonna see it
Israeli military response. The
14:14
only question is how big it will
be. And Israel in the past has
14:18
not been shy about using its
military superior superiority to
14:21
hit Hamas targets in Gaza when
Hamas has fired rockets. But the
14:26
real limiting factor here is
these hostages because Israel
14:30
launches a broad invasion of
Gaza right now it could
14:34
inadvertently kill some of its
own citizens. Gaza is densely
14:39
populated. There are many
tunnels. It is a place that
14:42
Hamas knows better than Israel,
and it is very likely that Hamas
14:46
will put some of these hostages
in key locations and use them as
14:51
human shields. So I think what
we're gonna see first is a
14:53
period of intelligence gathering
before any major Israeli
14:58
operations, the other limiting
factor public opinion,
15:01
particularly in the Arab world,
if Israel seen as carrying out
15:05
some blanket response against
the Palestinians in Gaza, and
15:09
incurring a huge death toll, it
could trigger a regional war.
15:14
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's not
even there. He's in Istanbul and
15:17
this isn't a report. This is an
analysis. Yeah. Yeah. So they
15:22
had to bring him in for some
reason. There he is. Well,
15:26
Adam Curry: I'm surprised he
didn't report on what happened
15:29
just two days ago, if he was in
Eastern, but maybe he was there
15:32
to report on. I'm just going to
interrupt you with another quick
15:35
report from France 24 because
this happened later, no, the
15:40
Friday so one day before Richard
Engel is in there, he's probably
15:44
ready to report on the other
part of what I think is the full
15:47
complete op in the early
15:49
Unknown: hours of Friday turkeys
all out barrage of Kurdish
15:52
militant hell, bases in
northeastern Syria continued,
15:56
missiles fired and bombs rained
down from fighter jets. footage
16:01
released by the Turkish home
office during the day even
16:04
appears to show clashes between
troops on the ground among their
16:07
targets for strategic
infrastructure facilities.
16:12
We are currently at the Bossy
station and we can say that the
16:15
damage is around 95% and it is
out of operation. The main tanks
16:20
and separators responsible for
pumping oil into the pipelines
16:23
are completely out of operation
and require long term
16:26
maintenance not.
16:30
After a PKK militant blew
himself up outside the Turkish
16:33
home office on Sunday, the
Turkish foreign ministry
16:36
announced that all Kurdish
workers party positions in Iraq
16:39
and Syria and those of their
Syrian allies are now legitimate
16:43
targets and launched a spate of
attacks on Thursday morning. The
16:47
Syrian Kurdish YPG militia fired
a rocket at a Turkish base on
16:51
Thursday evening, which Turkey
cited as justification for its
16:55
continued onslaught from Turkish
foreign minister. How can it be
16:58
done? The court is Washington
counterpart Antony Blinken on
17:02
Friday after US troops down to
Turkish drone, which they say
17:06
was less than 500 meters from
their troops. The Pentagon
17:09
called the incident regrettable
history but anchor used to call
17:12
to tell its NATO ally in no
uncertain terms that the US must
17:17
cease its support for the YPG
Kurdish militia, which Turkey
17:20
classes as a terrorist
organization to that news
17:23
Adam Curry: kind of went by the
wayside. Besides Syria has been
17:27
under attack for gone from for
months. And when they don't talk
17:30
about it. No, to done, but he
was there.
17:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was a
maybe that's what he was there
17:37
for us or somebody Miss was
misled months important. He
17:42
should well of course, we have
the thing that I mentioned in
17:45
the newsletter, which is the
Intel theme. And this is the
17:49
fourth clip, which includes it
and this is a point of the this
17:56
is a questioning the validity of
what they're going to say here.
18:00
Unknown: Israel has some of the
most advanced intelligence
18:03
agencies in the world. But
somehow they were caught totally
18:07
off guard, and so was the US
Mali hunters following that
18:11
force tonight.
18:14
Today will go down in history as
a massive state intelligence
18:18
failure, the Palestinian Hamas
militant group catching Israel
18:22
both completely by surprise, and
also deeply unprepared.
18:26
This is extensive planning that
would have to take place over
18:29
the course of many months. And
the fact that the Israelis seem
18:32
to have been blind to it is
something that is going to I
18:34
think lead to an overhaul of the
Israeli intelligence service
18:39
leadership.
18:41
Washington, apparently also in
the dark, one senior US military
18:45
official telling NBC News, we
were not tracking this. US
18:51
visuals telling NBC News that if
Israel knew and attack was
18:55
imminent, they didn't share it.
18:57
You're going to have to question
whether or not the sources they
18:59
have had been doubled back
against them and whether or not
19:02
Hamas was able to identify those
individuals and feed false
19:05
information back to Israel.
19:06
Adam Curry: But was that
Brennan? Is that Brennan?
19:09
Unknown: So I think they have to
19:10
Adam Curry: one kid is bringing
them all out. Oh, yeah. I saw
19:14
John C Dvorak: this particular
report from NBC this which came
19:17
out on Saturday. They had
everybody they brought everybody
19:23
out of the woodwork. It was one
person after another after
19:26
another after another. And it
was like everyone had to get
19:28
their fee. Of course, at this
event. Of course,
19:31
Adam Curry: Brennan hasn't been
out for over a year. So for him
19:35
to come out on Amazon
19:36
Unknown: and whether or not
Hamas was able to identify those
19:38
individuals and feed false
information back to Israel. But
19:41
also I think they have to wonder
about why their very exquisite,
19:45
sensitive technical collection
systems. Were not able to pick
19:48
up anything.
19:49
breaching the border fence was
unprecedented using
19:52
Adam Curry: Brennan and Muslim,
then we determine that. Yes,
19:56
okay. Just just reiterate her
19:57
Unknown: about why they're very
exquisite and Since the
20:00
technical collection systems
were not able to pick up
20:03
anything,
20:04
breaching the border fence was
unprecedented seen here in Hamas
20:08
video. But bursting into
southern Israel was a shock to
20:12
Tel Aviv. And the timing is no
accident. Exactly 50 years ago,
20:16
the 1973 October invasion by
Egypt and Syria also caught
20:21
Israel completely off guard.
Yeah.
20:28
John C Dvorak: All right. So the
question remains whether this
20:30
was they knew about this in
advance and they needed to use
20:34
it for some reason, because
there's been nothing but
20:36
political disarray in Israel
thing.
20:39
Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on. I
have a couple of boots on the
20:41
ground reports. Sir Brian of
London. And you know, so he and
20:47
he's been under rocket attack
for years. And he's always been
20:51
reporting back and his his first
thing is, this was so the I
20:55
think this is the messaging
that's happening there. And he's
20:58
receiving this I'm not saying
he's wrong or anything. But he
21:02
say no, this was clearly a lapse
in security. He feels that that
21:08
Israel relies too much on
electronic surveillance. And,
21:15
and that this just, you know,
this that they got, they were
21:17
lapse, they they were lacks
they, they lapse in their
21:20
security, because they were just
always got it all covered. We
21:23
have boots on the ground from
one of our trusted producers,
21:28
who says he has a friend who was
a former Mossad if that's
21:31
possible. And here's the quote
from him. Using the cover of
21:37
heavy rocket attack that forced
Israeli into shelters, a large
21:40
number of Hamas terrorists
overrun the era's checkpoint and
21:44
broke through some border fence
killing soldiers. They invaded
21:47
several Israeli border towns
attacking civilians in their
21:49
homes, a large gathering of
young Israelis at a music
21:52
festival in the area were
targeted indiscriminately sounds
21:54
like he's promoting something to
us. Families murdered inside
21:57
their homes, many casualties
injured. Multiple kidnappings,
22:00
regional manhunt operations,
ongoing large military
22:03
mobilization, undoubtedly
coordinated with Iran. And
22:08
preparations for possible
Hizballah attack in the north is
22:12
underway. southern Israel is on
curfew, homes are on lockdown
22:15
since yesterday. So the oh and
the Iranian and Russian axis aim
22:19
to undermine the potential deal
between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
22:23
So these are all talking points.
And I think this this whole
22:28
thing behooves a number of
people number one, above all,
22:31
and it behooves everyone except
for dead people. Of course, the
22:35
military industrial complex,
could not be better timing, no
22:39
24 billion for Ukraine, no
worries, Biden has already
22:44
rumored to be setting up 100
billion in military assistance
22:47
to Israel. So they got a four
bagger out of this, from 24
22:53
billion 200 billion.
22:55
John C Dvorak: And there's
nothing to say that there aren't
22:57
elements I in fact, I'd be
shocked. If there weren't, by
23:01
the way, just go back my
original premise you
23:03
interrupted, which was the fact
that they've had nothing but
23:05
riots in the streets in Israel
over this judiciary thing. And
23:09
this benefit beneficial chi
Bosch on that immediately.
23:13
Adam Curry: Netanyahu needed
cover. And then But, yes,
23:18
John C Dvorak: but there's
nothing that tells me that
23:22
there's not tons of elements
within the Israeli system within
23:27
the government and the politics,
that they don't want necessarily
23:30
want this deal with Saudi Arabia
23:32
Adam Curry: either. No, no, no,
but I think it's much bigger
23:36
than this. By the way, BBC did a
much better job than then our US
23:43
media at bringing some other
voices on, which I don't want to
23:47
skip. Which, you know, because
of course, you have a lot of,
23:51
you know, where's Roger Waters,
by the way, he should be saying,
23:53
Yeah, this is great. Yeah,
that's how you Banham. These are
23:57
all the people who were anti
Israel water. Where's Ilan, Omar
24:01
and AOC saying, Wow, that's
great. They really they did a
24:05
good job. No, you're not gonna
hear that right now. But the BBC
24:09
at least brings on some
alternative voices, which I want
24:12
to play.
24:12
Unknown: I mean, Egypt has
already warned of the dangers of
24:15
of escalation. I mean, where is
this going? Israel has has said
24:21
it is at war.
24:23
Yeah, Israel has said it is at
war. We have to also remember
24:27
that Israel under international
law is the occupying power. It
24:31
is a military superpower by
international standards. It is
24:36
accused and has been found
guilty of prolific human rights
24:39
violations against Palestinian
civilians. The fact that the
24:43
occupied is now attacking the
occupier. It is novel it is new,
24:49
but Gaza is not occupied. It is
it is according to the United
24:53
Nations it remains occupied
every aspect of Palestinian life
24:57
in Gaza remains under the
control All of the Israeli
25:01
military in the Israeli state,
25:03
but with this interested
endorsement of the Hamas assault
25:08
by the Palestinian president,
He's removing himself, isn't he
25:13
from any kind of role as
mediator?
25:16
I'm not sure that he has
endorsed anything. But again, I
25:18
think it's what's going to be
25:20
a Palestinian, the Palestinian
people have the right to defend
25:22
themselves against the terror of
settlers and occupation troops,
25:27
that the statement of legal fact
they the Palestinians have the
25:31
right to defend themselves. I'm
not sure that that if the
25:34
Palestinian leadership wanted to
endorse the Hamas actions, that
25:38
they wouldn't have been more
direct
25:40
New Order who's a Palestinian
living in Ramallah?
25:43
Adam Curry: Tell she's in
Ramallah. Okay, then,
25:46
John C Dvorak: well, of course,
the BBC is the big apologist for
25:49
the Palestinians. That's because
you only I don't have an
25:54
eclipse. But I could have gotten
some nicer. What's the point?
25:57
The only outlet here that we're
going to hear this, this angle
26:01
is going to be democracy. Now.
26:03
Adam Curry: I have another clip
from BBC. And this is, this is
26:08
what is being touted as the
reason.
26:10
Unknown: And during the current
Jewish holiday of Sukkot, this
26:14
just ending. There were quite
large scale events on the actual
26:21
compound of the Al Aqsa Mosque
in Jerusalem, which is the third
26:26
holiest site for Muslims in the
world. But it's also revered by
26:31
Jews as the site of the Jewish
temple, the ancient Jewish
26:33
temple. And they were praying
there. Now it doesn't sound
26:37
much, but that's something which
Israelis don't permit, and which
26:40
is considered to be a highly,
highly provocative act. And so,
26:47
Hamas have been saying that
they're acting to protect
26:50
Jerusalem and they've used the
word Jerusalem and the, what
26:53
they're calling this attack,
they're calling it Jerusalem
26:55
flood. So they're connecting it
very much with that, because
27:00
anything that happens that seems
to alter any kind of status quo
27:03
in Jerusalem does almost
inevitably lead to violence. And
27:07
I think that, I mean, I've been
expecting some kind of serious
27:12
explosion for months, and I
didn't think it would happen
27:14
like this.
27:16
Adam Curry: Right. So they're
saying, hey, you know, the, the
27:20
Hasidic Jews overran the temple,
and they were praying, it's not
27:25
allowed. So that was
retaliation. Sky News, actually
27:29
did something that you would
expect someone maybe democracy
27:33
now somewhere, someone would at
least give an abbreviated
27:36
history of the state of Israel.
And they did it in one minute
27:40
and three seconds.
27:41
Unknown: So let's talk about
first of all, why Israel has
27:43
been the center of so much
conflict.
27:47
Yeah, good afternoon. simer.
Before we go into the classic
27:50
disclaimers here is that this
enormous emotive subject, just
27:53
one word can be taken out of
context. And that's often why
27:56
it's not talked about widely,
but it is really important to
27:58
have some historical context for
our viewers. Where do you start
28:02
with history because this goes
back to Babylonian times. And
28:05
literally 1000s of years of
religious conflicts never the
28:08
lines on the map today and
largely formed around the Second
28:12
World War, when the victorious
Allies were looking for
28:15
somewhere to put 100,000
repatriated effectually Jews and
28:19
the UN special commission was
advised that the best way to do
28:23
this was to partition Palestine
into two states, our states and
28:27
Jewish states. And the
arrangements around juicer a
28:30
Jerusalem were international
control, but un administered the
28:33
trouble is with the lens of
history on it, that left a US
28:37
sponsored enclave of Israel in
the middle of a continent of
28:42
Arab states.
28:44
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's a
short explanation.
28:46
John C Dvorak: The irony, the
irony, is that the UN bitches
28:49
and moans about this now. Yes,
it is. They're the ones who did
28:54
it. Well, actually,
28:55
Adam Curry: there's a follow up
to this. And then I think I have
28:57
something that will set set up
straight on what's going on
29:00
here.
29:01
Unknown: And picking up on that
then Israel is a very much a
29:04
western style democracy. bang in
the middle of very different
29:08
societies, cultures and the way
politically, places are run had
29:12
What issues does that pose?
29:15
Yeah, well, literally the day
after that the Israel was
29:20
announced it was formed in
Independence state Arab States
29:22
attacked it because there's
almost before the strike, trying
29:24
to make sure that it didn't it
didn't survive that led to years
29:28
of conflict. 1967 was the big
one. But the borders that
29:32
emerged from that 1967 were
never actually acknowledged by
29:34
the international community
since then, the Egypt border
29:37
down near you. Back in 82 was
agreed the Jordan border was
29:41
agreed in 94. But apart from
that, it still remained largely
29:46
unresolved. the Gaza Strip is a
really good example. 2.3 million
29:50
people there. They were
isolated. They've got lousy
29:53
economy, they've got a real
problem with employment. And
29:56
that's been rife there for four,
five minutes and Groups largely
30:01
got Hezbollah, obviously
sponsored by Lebanon to the
30:03
north. But Hamas is the big one.
They're the de facto governing
30:06
authority in Gaza. And their own
their formation was to liberate
30:11
Palestine. That was their entire
aim of getting involved. And of
30:16
course, the trouble is they're
funded by Iran and Syria, who of
30:19
course, have their own agendas
here. So this is much wider than
30:22
simply just about Israel.
30:24
Okay, and let's talk about the
here. And now. Why has Hamas
30:28
chosen to carry out this attack
right now?
30:30
It's a fascinating question. And
what we can say is that Israel
30:35
is actually a very important
major power, it's got modern
30:38
army, modern air force, modern
life. And these are some of
30:42
their in southern Israel earlier
on in the last 24 hours. By
30:46
contrast, how mass is basically
we've got some footage of them
30:49
on the on the border of Gaza,
but that Hamas is actually
30:54
almost it's just a militia. It's
got much smaller arms, it's got
30:57
much smaller military
capability. So Hamas can't take
30:59
on Israel at war. And therefore
what they've done is they've
31:03
seen some hostages, take them
away, hide in the urban
31:06
environment, and then forced to
negotiate the problem is I
31:09
suspect, Israel, and it doesn't
look like it's on the verge of
31:12
negotiation. And this could end
up being a very long war. And
31:15
although the US has said well
for support Israel fully, if
31:19
Israel goes into Gaza, if the
civilian casualties start to
31:22
rise, that that support might
start to waver.
31:26
Adam Curry: So the timing of all
this is what I find interesting,
31:29
you know, the 50th anniversary
of the Yom Kippur War, it's on
31:33
the, it took place on Sabbath,
and a lot of Christians saying,
31:38
oh, Matthew 24, you know, this
is it. Jesus says, Pray that
31:42
your fight will not take place
in the winter on the Sabbath,
31:45
you know, all these all these
biblical things come to pass.
31:48
This reeks of the the elite
death cult, who are responsible
31:55
for well, really the West Clark
seven. And so I pulled the West
31:59
Clark seven clip, which I'm, of
course going to play, I have the
32:02
extended version, which we I
don't think we've played in a
32:04
long time, where he goes into
much more detail about the seven
32:10
countries we're going to take
over in five years, which of
32:12
course did not happen, because
that would have been done by
32:14
2000. So a long, long time ago.
But number six and seven on
32:19
those lists are Syria and Iran.
And the reasoning is the part of
32:24
the clip, which I think brings
us some clarity. And then I came
32:26
back to the Pentagon about This
is General Wesley Clark. And in
32:31
an interview that, that I don't
know if he regrets it, but he
32:34
basically gave out top secret
information right after 911 what
32:39
the plan was, and you can only
presume that 911 was put in
32:44
place to kick off that plan. So
when people are talking about
32:48
Israel's 911, you know, you
start to think West Clark,
32:52
seven,
32:53
Unknown: and then I came back to
the Pentagon about six weeks
32:55
later, I saw the same officer. I
said, Why? Why am we attacked
32:58
Iraq, we still gonna attack
Iraqi said, oh, sorry. He says
33:01
it's worse than that. He pulled
up a piece of paper off his desk
33:04
because I just got this memo
from the Secretary of Defense's
33:06
office, it says we're going to
attack and destroy the
33:08
government's in seven countries
in five years. We're going to
33:12
start with Iraq. And then we're
going to move to Syria, Lebanon,
33:15
Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.
I seven, seven countries in five
33:21
years. I said this in a
classified memo. He said, Yes,
33:25
sir. I said, Well, don't show it
to me. He was about to show it
33:28
to me. So because I want to talk
about it. And I couldn't believe
33:31
it would really be true. But
that's actually what happened.
33:35
These people took control of the
policy in the United States. And
33:39
I realized then it came back to
me a 1991 meeting I had with
33:44
Paul Wolfowitz. You know, in
2001, he was Deputy Secretary of
33:47
Defense, but in 1991, he was the
Undersecretary of Defense for
33:51
Policy to number three position
in the Pentagon. So I called and
33:54
up there he was available. And
he brought me in and I said to
33:59
Paul, I sit and this is 1991. I
said, Mr. Secretary, you must be
34:03
pretty happy with the
performance of the troops and
34:05
Desert Storm. And he said, Well,
yeah, he said, but but not
34:10
really. He said, Because the
truth is we should have gotten
34:13
rid of Saddam Hussein. And we
didn't. He said, but one thing
34:16
we did learn, he said, we
learned that we can use our
34:20
military in the region in the
Middle East, and the Soviets
34:23
won't stop us. He said, and
we've got about five or 10 years
34:27
to clean up those old Soviet
client regimes, Syria, Iran,
34:33
Iraq, before the next great
superpower comes on to
34:38
challenges. It was a pretty
stunning thing. You mean, the
34:41
purpose of the military is to
start wars and change
34:44
governments. It's not to sort of
deter conflict. We're going to
34:48
invade countries and I you know,
my mind was spinning. This
34:53
country was taken over by a
group of people with a policy
34:58
coup Wolfowitz and Cheney and
Rumsfeld. And you could name a
35:06
half dozen other collaborators
from the Project for a New
35:09
American Century. They wanted us
to destabilize the Middle East,
35:15
turn it upside down, make it
under our control.
35:21
Adam Curry: And that is exactly
you know, there's no
35:23
coincidences in the kingdom, Joe
Biden releasing $6 billion,
35:28
which is total bull crap. But
the the politic the politicians
35:32
are out right away. You can see
all of them. Well, this is Joe
35:36
Biden's failed because he he
gave $6 billion to Iran. And
35:39
then they they financed this
whole thing, bowl crap. These
35:43
weapons probably came from
Afghanistan, which no one has
35:45
said, because it's more likely
that the Taliban a billion
35:49
dollars worth of it. The Taliban
brought that down. Some of its
35:52
from Ukraine. No, this this,
35:55
John C Dvorak: just as an aside,
that $6 billion has yet to be
35:59
released. I know it's fully
release, you have to do we
36:02
haven't signed off on a nickel
of it that exam and use a nickel
36:05
of it. But
36:05
Adam Curry: that's what that was
the narrative, right? And what I
36:08
just said to teen I said, you
watch, here comes the narrative
36:12
is there. It doesn't matter. The
whole point is to implicate
36:15
Iran, and have Israel do the
business. And they're not going
36:19
to nuke of this is another Oh,
this isn't world war three. No,
36:23
no, that makes zero sense.
Nobody wants to rub allies with
36:28
nukes. The whole point is to rub
allies and build up again. You
36:32
can't do that in nuclear waste,
36:35
John C Dvorak: not mess. You
can't that's not normal.
36:38
realisation needs to take place,
as we've already shown how to do
36:42
it, right? Yes,
36:43
Adam Curry: we have the
technology of globalization. But
36:46
that's that's what's on deck
here. That's what and this is
36:49
above Biden. That's when I saw
all those Yahoo's come out
36:53
again. And thank you for, for
showing us that even Brennan
36:57
comes out. Well, that's the
opera right there. That's the op
37:01
and they don't give a crap about
a couple 100 people dying, they
37:04
don't care at all. They don't
care about Israel. They care
37:08
about destabilizing the Middle
East to to drive or to have the
37:14
upper hand over Russia,
particularly in Syria. And in
37:18
Iran and China there that's
that's their upper hand that's
37:23
John C Dvorak: based on this
thesis that means the real
37:26
target of this whole thing this
is is Iran. When some reason to
37:31
do something there so Israel,
which hot headed Yahoo, sent a
37:37
couple of fighters and blow up a
couple of news.
37:40
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah. They
probably have some dudes waiting
37:45
in the wings ready to ready to
emerge after they blow some blow
37:48
some molars up. Yeah. This is
going to be targeted strikes.
37:53
But this is not an OP. This is
NOT operation people. This is
37:57
war. It's not up. Whatever.
Don't look at it as an OP. It's
38:00
a total up and it's it's it's a
cult. These people are sick.
38:05
They're sick. They are and
goodbye, Ukraine. Oh, boy,
38:12
goodbye. You're over. You're
done. You're totally done. I'll
38:19
give you an idea. We can move
away from this because there's
38:22
nothing else we can do right
now. There's nothing much we can
38:25
say. But just to show you who
the sick people are, and it's
38:29
politicians, it's media people.
It's it's it's all the people in
38:34
Brussels is the United Nations
people, you know, is of course
38:38
all run ultimately by bankers.
That's just how it works.
38:43
Bankers, and I'm sure someone
will say, Oh, you're anti
38:45
Semite. No, no, not all bankers
are Jews.
38:49
John C Dvorak: The former New
York Bankers of banks are
38:52
Jewish. So they're all Jewish. I
don't think so.
38:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Now
they live on a whole different
38:57
plane. So Jens Stoltenberg, then
we didn't play this. But he came
39:02
out maybe a week and a half or
two weeks ago. And he made the
39:06
most bizarre statement, which
which was counter to the entire
39:10
Ukraine narrative. Here it is
39:15
Unknown: first and put in
39:16
extra sent a draft treat that
they wanted NATO to sign to
39:20
promise no more NATO
enlargement. That was what what
39:25
he sent us. And that was that
that was a pre condition for not
39:29
invade Ukraine. Of course, we
didn't sign up. So he went to
39:34
war to prevent NATO, more NATO
close its borders.
39:38
Adam Curry: So this youngster,
Jens Stoltenberg, the boss of
39:41
NATO, admitting that Putin went
to war because NATO was
39:46
expanding towards their borders,
specifically in Ukraine. Yeah.
39:52
John C Dvorak: Which we've known
all along, right. But now he
39:54
said it. Yeah. Which
39:56
Adam Curry: is weird. And thank
you internet for creating a
39:59
supercar.
40:00
Unknown: This is fundamentally
not about NATO expansion. It's
40:03
John C Dvorak: never about NATO
enlargement. It's not about
40:05
NATO. It's
40:06
Unknown: not about NATO
expanding toward Russia. This
40:08
was never
40:09
about NATO. Absolutely nothing
40:10
to do with NATO expansion as it
has nothing to do with NATO. Not
40:15
about NATO. So really about
NATO.
40:18
It's not about NATO seriously.
It's not about this was never
40:22
about
40:22
NATO. It was never about NATO.
Let's be honest, this doesn't
40:25
have anything to do with NATO.
Nothing to do with NATO at all.
40:27
Yeah, he's
40:28
claiming it's like security
purposes, but we can clearly the
40:31
clear reason come but NATO is
not the reason this is
40:33
not about NATO expansion. This
is about democratic expansion.
40:38
Ukraine, bans religious
organizations. We are protecting
40:42
democracy right now. Crane is
banning political parties.
40:45
Democracy, Ukraine restricts
books and music. It's about
40:49
democracy, Ukraine vote hold
40:52
elections is about democracy,
not about NATO expansion. This
40:55
war and reclaim is not about
NATO is not about NATO. But it's
40:59
not about needs. It has
41:00
John C Dvorak: nothing to do
with NATO, nothing to do with
41:02
NATO expansion. It's not about
NATO expansion to do with NATO.
41:06
It isn't really
41:07
Unknown: about NATO. It's not
about needles, not about
41:10
NATO enlargement fact, it has
nothing to do with NATO. It's
41:13
not about NATO and croto is not
41:14
about NATO. NATO is just as a
fictious imaginary adversary for
41:18
for for Mr. Putin and for
Russia, it was never about NATO.
41:21
But it's been about it's been
about him trying to expand his
41:24
sphere of influence.
41:25
I mean, the two are not mutually
exclusive. Obviously, Russia has
41:28
wished for a sphere of influence
over Ukraine. But if the West
41:32
had not challenged Russian
interests so directly, I think
41:36
that there was
41:37
a chance to avoid this
41:39
war. He wanted us to sign that
promise never to enlarge NATO.
41:44
We rejected that. The reason why
41:46
John C Dvorak: Putin invaded
Ukraine is because of his evil
41:49
Adam Curry: evil. It's about
that Putin wants to rebuild
41:52
Soviet empire of evil like
President Reagan wouldn't been
41:56
sick, negotiate peace with a
madman but nobody
41:59
Unknown: negotiated with him.
People are comparing him to
42:01
Hitler Hitler I remember
Hitler's use a Hitler we're back
42:05
when the Nazis invaded Poland.
This is exactly the same. What
42:09
Hitler was doing to choose. This
was the same Putin will not stop
42:13
by Putin is reminiscent of
Hitler. Hitler's
42:15
reminds me of Hitler. Hitler.
42:19
is about a butcher trying to
kill people everywhere in the
42:23
world. Just not Ukraine, Syria,
all over the place.
42:27
Adam Curry: Is it becoming clear
people, these people are sick.
42:32
Unknown: And you know that
42:33
Adam Curry: we've been watching
them for years, they've been in
42:36
our lives in our living rooms,
and they're all part of the same
42:38
cult.
42:41
John C Dvorak: You know, you
could play one of those things
42:43
that can go on for hours, and
it's still entertaining. The
42:47
that was a good long one. Yeah,
Stoltenberg. This whole thing,
42:52
this NATO thing was the obvious
point of it. And then to watch
42:56
the media, the media is pathetic
in this country and worldwide,
42:59
it's taken. It's been taken over
somehow, through the colleges
43:05
and universities and through the
journalism schools. It's just
43:08
it's really something it's, it's
frightening. That's me.
43:12
Adam Curry: That's why we need
to go to the podcast to get the
43:14
truth. This is the defense and
aerospace podcast. People always
43:19
talk too much on these podcasts.
Ooh, too much. This is Dr.
43:23
Kathleen McKinnis of the Center
for Strategic and International
43:26
Studies. Well, you
43:27
John C Dvorak: know what that
is?
43:30
Adam Curry: That's part of the
money making machine
43:32
Unknown: there's this huge
amount of reconstruction that
43:34
has to be done, but starting to
get in on the contracts and that
43:38
has to be done now. The
Ukrainians aren't waiting to the
43:41
wars ending they're starting
now. And if us want to have a
43:45
piece of that pie, they need to
stay on the ground
43:50
Adam Curry: on a piece of that
pie people get going let's go
43:54
you got to start now they're
starting the rebuilding now
43:56
because you know for some reason
we don't have the same cell cell
43:58
phone footage of people dying in
Ukraine, you know, Russians
44:02
being killed with this with the
wind from Zelinsky now we see
44:05
him speaking in front of
Parliament's everywhere raising
44:08
money you know why because that
money is for you. For you
44:11
consultant for you. In military
industrial complex for you
44:16
energy sector for you, is for
you. That's that's the people's
44:19
money. We printed it for you get
in on this Get on the ground
44:23
floor,
44:23
Unknown: that pie, they need to
start getting on the ground.
44:26
There's all sorts of accusations
of corruption. Okay, got it. But
44:30
there's American companies out
there have figured it out.
44:33
Adam Curry: I gotta hear that
again. It's that beautiful it's
44:35
a great great quote. Isn't that
beautiful? There's
44:38
John C Dvorak: been a
accusations of of, of
44:40
corruption. Okay, got it.
44:44
Unknown: Let's just play this.
There's all sorts of accusations
44:46
of corruption. Okay, got it. But
there's American companies that
44:50
are out there and have figured
it out and are and are raking in
44:54
the dough are going to be able
to be part of the post war
44:59
Ukraine UNIAN reconstruction
effort. And if we don't do that
45:02
if we don't have American
companies going in there and
45:05
doing that it's going to be
Chinese companies that are going
45:07
to be those contracts,
45:10
Adam Curry: the contracts, the
contracts for whatever the
45:12
Chinese are going to use our
money really lady. Well, where's
45:16
that money coming from Hello,
Lindy Hop
45:18
Unknown: when it comes to the
house. And the idea that we got
45:23
to move swiftly. Right, right.
The White House Right, right,
45:25
right Republican leadership that
they don't have enough funding
45:29
for Ukraine to make it through
45 days and the authorities they
45:32
have are insufficient. Well, so
how much time are you talking
45:35
about needing?
45:36
You know, I've been around a
while I'm worrying to pan Do you
45:38
think I would leave Ukraine, I
don't believe that when bit this
45:41
same White House says we don't
need to have sixteens. We don't
45:44
need high Mars, we don't need
tanks, I'm lost confidence in
45:47
their valuation for what's going
on in Ukraine. We've got a bunch
45:50
of allies, they can help for six
weeks, the Allies have spent
45:54
more money in Ukraine than we
have. And when you hear
45:56
otherwise, it's just not
45:58
Adam Curry: what's been burned.
When you hear when you hear
46:01
otherwise is just not true. It's
just not true. The Allies have
46:04
spent more. This is
46:07
John C Dvorak: sad work. When
he's lady G. Right.
46:10
Unknown: Gotcha allies, they can
help for six weeks, the Allies
46:13
have spent more money in Ukraine
than we have. And when you hear
46:16
otherwise, it's just not true.
46:18
Adam Curry: No. Oh, that may be
true. Because we have spent the
46:21
money here on our on our war
machine. We haven't actually
46:25
spent any money. Yeah, no,
there's
46:26
John C Dvorak: so just a way he
Yeah. He puts it out there as
46:30
though he does it in such a way
that is probably what he says is
46:33
probably true, because he's
using it to defend a point and
46:38
he's got a big mouth. Yeah. For
some reason, well, for us. It
46:46
is, but but he that is a huge.
That's a that's an error in
46:53
judgment to say that
46:55
Unknown: valuation for what's
going on in Ukraine, we've got a
46:57
bunch of allies, they can help
for six weeks, the Allies have
47:01
spent more money in Ukraine than
we have. And when you hear
47:04
otherwise, it's just not true.
It's been good burden sharing.
47:07
But I'm not worried about the
next six weeks, I'm worried
47:10
about next year, we will produce
in the United States Senate,
47:14
Ukraine funding 60 or 70 billion
not 24. To get them through next
47:18
year, we will have a border
security measure that is strong,
47:22
and we will have additional
disaster aid cost the nation
47:25
needs it. We're going to do
those three things. And I'm
47:28
hoping our House colleagues will
react positively to it. I think
47:32
Kevin is the right guy at the
right time. The only way he
47:35
loses his job is if a handful of
Republicans join up with the
47:39
Democratic Party to fire him.
That would be a disaster for the
47:43
future of the Republican Party.
That's not gonna happen. Yeah,
47:47
it has the
47:49
Adam Curry: lady G future teller
overwhelmingly
47:52
John C Dvorak: male that
47:53
Unknown: kind of worked out for
the shutdown. He will help
47:56
Ukraine but he's telling
everybody in the country
47:58
including me, you better send
something over for the border
48:02
for me to help Ukraine and he's
right to make that demand.
48:05
Adam Curry: 60 billion All
right, thanks. That's all right.
48:07
So hey, getting on the ground
floor everybody. It's starting
48:10
now. The money train is coming.
Whoo. Here we go. And I not sure
48:14
that today's modern CIA was in
on this up in Israel, because we
48:21
had Richard angle in Turkey,
Turkey a in eastern bull
48:25
reporting, but he was positioned
and he was he was like reporting
48:30
on Russia striking wrong
48:31
John C Dvorak: place at the
wrong time. Yes,
48:33
Unknown: this was a devastating
day in Ukraine where officials
48:35
say a Russian missile killed
more than 50 people Richard
48:39
angle with late details.
48:41
Adam Curry: So what's his beat
now? This is beat Ukraine is his
48:45
beat the Hamas.
48:47
Unknown: A huge Russian missile
effectively wiped this tiny
48:50
village off the map today,
flattening what was Main Street
48:54
in Prusa. in eastern Ukraine.
There's hardly a trace of the
48:58
grocery and coffee shops that
were here. Residents say there
49:01
were only 330 people living in
the village. In an instant, more
49:05
than 50 were killed. Relatives
from the surrounding areas
49:10
rushed over as soon as they
could search for loved ones.
49:13
Valeria Harrison anko looking
for her mother says the
49:16
villagers were holding a
memorial for a soldier when the
49:19
missile hit.
49:20
Adam Curry: We don't even have
to listen to the rest of this
49:22
report. Ukraine is over. It's
over. That war is over to this
49:26
John C Dvorak: thesis. Okay. Was
Was the CIA cut out of the
49:31
operation in Israel where they
were they? Were they were they
49:37
saying man? Hey, you know, maybe
this is such a good idea because
49:40
what we want to do is blah,
blah, blah. And they said, Okay,
49:42
well what you want to do is what
you want to do, by the way,
49:45
we're going to have a meeting.
You're not invited. I mean, what
49:49
possibly happened CIA dia. I
don't think the DIA knows
49:54
anything either. They were.
They're the ones like
49:58
international FBI. They seem to
be all over the place
50:01
Adam Curry: as I said it's above
everybody's paygrade
50:05
John C Dvorak: well it's
definitely above ours because we
50:07
don't have a handle on that.
50:09
Adam Curry: I mean all I have is
Richard angle was Miss
50:12
positioned in this wrong place.
So so that means the
50:16
intelligence services that he
talks to which is CIA, as far as
50:19
we know, was not informed or
they didn't inform him I mean,
50:24
that's also possible but for
this to happen under most Mossad
50:28
could detect a cat at this wall
I remember these
50:32
John C Dvorak: somebody actually
pointed out yeah, if there's a
50:34
cat walking alongside this this
fence, the Mossad has got a
50:40
sights on it.
50:41
Adam Curry: So when the when the
Para motors came in, I'm like,
50:45
no, no, no, yeah, and
50:46
John C Dvorak: the bulldozers
yeah like no way was this
50:49
government in other words a good
funniest site and no
50:52
Adam Curry: one and no one knew
this no one was going into this
50:55
by
50:56
John C Dvorak: motorcycle after
motorcycle filing into the
50:59
southern part of the Israel
Yeah, it just didn't make any
51:02
sense but I mean, they talked
they talked about it as a big
51:05
deal and what a screw up and
then even Brandon comes out says
51:09
really need some new new
leadership now what is
51:13
leadership got to do with this
sort of boots on the ground kind
51:15
of thing? Or maybe there is one
of those situations which you
51:19
run into and these intelligence
agencies are always bitching
51:22
about not having enough people
and they using too much
51:25
technology Yeah, you know
there's we need more people
51:30
spies we need the old fashioned
spies are in there digging
51:33
around wearing disguises you're
using too much you know there's
51:37
too much of this this this What
is it electronics Yeah.
51:43
Adam Curry: Yes. And well that
that's the that's the message
51:46
has gone out in Israel. That's
what I'm getting back because
51:48
Oh, it's too much. They did too
much of that. And then they took
51:51
their eye off the ball because
they relied on all the on all
51:54
the intelligence systems from
the electronics. I'm sorry, I'm
51:59
not buying any of it the the
pair motors and the way that was
52:03
filmed that was filmed they had
someone so someone landed, and
52:10
then they filmed the other guys.
52:12
John C Dvorak: Three cameras
shoot. Yes, it was it was almost
52:15
Adam Curry: like the the
beheading videos, it was pretty
52:18
good. I mean, it was a little
over produced. And so the
52:24
problem well, what's good about
that? I think it was pulled by
52:27
the way, what's good about this
is this is so polarizing,
52:30
because you get you know, the
you get the Israeli, we get Jew
52:36
Arab, then you get a lot of
people in the United States
52:40
saying, you know, the Zionist
Jews, they own Congress, they
52:42
run everything, you know, you
get this this so it, it creates
52:47
dissension everywhere, but it's
totally meant to blame Biden
52:52
whatever it is, it's the blame
goes squarely to Biden from the
52:57
political right. They came out
right away. All of them are
53:01
saying the same thing and
there's no evidence there's no
53:04
evidence that this 46 billion
which was in you know, oh, it's
53:10
taxpayer money. No big
53:11
John C Dvorak: toe Come on.
53:12
Adam Curry: It's a great bit,
but let's just call it what it
53:14
is bullcrap
53:16
John C Dvorak: total bull crap.
It's good bit and
53:18
Adam Curry: when it would have
been easier and more believable
53:21
to say, well, you know that we
left at $1 billion worth of
53:25
stuff. Okay. Forget the
helicopters and some other stuff
53:29
with just you know, we left we
sabotaged but a lot of the arms
53:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all the
arms the guns, the bullets and I
53:36
had I have a billion dollars
with armaments left in
53:40
Afghanistan was left for a
reason
53:43
Adam Curry: with Taliban. You
know, these these guys are
53:45
reliable. And, you know, so on
the on my military backchannels
53:52
I'm getting here. What is it
here? Multiple sources Middle
53:57
East, Lebanese and Palestinian
telegram channels report
54:00
significant number of RPGs and
other hand arms used by Hamas in
54:04
the operation against Israel
came from Ukraine, or as they're
54:07
saying, from the key of regime
of Jews Alinsky. So and that
54:13
could all be disinformation. I'm
sure it is. Yeah. But that's a
54:18
lot more likely, but it sounds
better. For you know, for the
54:22
show boaters in Washington going
Oh, yeah. Biden. Biden did that.
54:27
But he doesn't care about Jews.
I mean, it can go on and on.
54:31
hates Jews. And he hates dogs.
That
54:34
John C Dvorak: Jews Asians.
Yeah, he got rid of his dog, are
54:36
they? Well, that was
54:38
Adam Curry: that was gonna be
the up. They have video of him
54:41
kicking the dog. He's fantastic.
He's coming out of the
54:46
helicopter with the dog. And it
looked more like he was kind of
54:49
wrangling
54:50
John C Dvorak: was this dog too.
He's got a bunch of different
54:52
servers. This is the one that's
bitten. 12 people I have clipped
54:55
President
54:55
Unknown: Biden's dog commander
was spotted at the White House
54:59
on Saturday. But after biting
someone last Monday night he no
55:03
longer lives here. CBS CBS News
has learned there have been more
55:07
than 11 Biting incidents
involving the two year old
55:10
German Shepherd and Secret
Service officers. At least two
55:14
had to be taken to the hospital
for treatment. Following an
55:18
incident last November when
Secret Service Officer emailed a
55:21
colleague, my leg and arm still
hurts. He beat me twice and ran
55:26
at me twice. A fellow Secret
Service Officer replied What a
55:30
joke if it wasn't their dog, he
would already have been put
55:33
down. Sources tell CBS commander
all sources White House
55:38
residential staff and other
workers sources
55:41
Adam Curry: when it sources that
means Biden's in real trouble
55:44
sources are telling CBS certain
thing because of all people
55:48
Unknown: all I get from the
President's brother is the
55:50
second to be removed from the
White House. No, that's an
55:54
Adam Curry: interesting detail.
It's from his brother, let's
55:56
bring his brother in. His
brother his brother's trouble
55:59
Unknown: dog, a gift from the
President's brother is the
56:02
second to be removed from the
White House. Major bit two
56:06
people in one month back in
2021. So he's a
56:09
sweet dog. 85% of the people
there love him. He just only has
56:14
Adam Curry: 85% of the people He
doesn't bite wag his tail.
56:19
Unknown: Dog Trainer Robert bra
says canine behavior depends on
56:23
several factors like genetics,
socialization and training. When
56:28
you're
56:28
Adam Curry: dealing with the
President's dog, nobody's going
56:29
to want to correct the
President's dog. And sadly, when
56:32
you're in a position of power,
people are going to tell you
56:34
what you want to hear and not
tell you the truth. The truth is
56:37
this dog needs structure. Yeah,
didn't need structure. Yeah, you
56:41
can train any dog. But yeah, so
you know, but him kicking the
56:46
dog was on Zero Hedge. So
they're trying to roll that
56:49
because you know, I think you
you get the meme out there that
56:53
the President kicks his dog.
He'll be impeached faster than
56:57
you can say.
56:58
John C Dvorak: That's bad that
bad look.
57:01
Adam Curry: So it still could be
in play but right now it's like
57:04
he is responsible for possibly
starting World War Three. That's
57:09
that's what's this is what's
happening. These these sick,
57:13
sick people. They just love
doing this stuff. They love
57:17
special dates. Man, let's do it
on the anniversary of the
57:21
numerology. Yeah, let's do let's
do I'm sure 10 Seven is special.
57:26
I'm sure there's some reason 33
57:28
Is that a 33?
57:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
There must be.
57:32
Adam Curry: There's got to be a
love that 33 in there. So we'll
57:35
find it. We'll find it. Yeah. So
yeah, this is a very, very sad
57:45
what's going on, but it is just
a completion of something
57:48
they've been doing for a long
time. And they don't want any,
57:51
any deal between Saudi Arabia
and Israel. Nobody wants that.
57:57
They want it all. They want to
run it all. And yeah, Iran has
58:00
got their oil cranked up again.
That'd be cool. We can go get
58:04
some of that. Yeah, if I were a
Mullah, I'd be worried.
58:11
John C Dvorak: What's screwy
just as an aside is that this
58:16
began and the price of oil
didn't move straight and it's
58:19
already already moved down 82 As
far as I know, it hasn't moved
58:25
anywhere since and it's like if
that's right and you somebody
58:28
might have their eye on that
Iranian oil
58:31
Adam Curry: oh wait they want
the price down before it can go
58:36
up? Is this a buying moment?
Maybe
58:38
John C Dvorak: you don't Well
no, there's take it over I'm not
58:41
talking about buying Iranian oil
58:43
Adam Curry: No no no I buying
moment for the price of oil like
58:46
a stock play like a market for
the price
58:50
John C Dvorak: of oil. Really?
To me. This is still too high.
58:52
It should be in the 60s. But
58:54
Adam Curry: is it good oil? Is
that some split? What kind of
58:56
what kind of crude do they have?
They have the good sweet stuff.
58:58
What do they what do they have
stuff we go with that?
59:00
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
there's two prices that float
59:03
around one is super good, high
quality stuff is Brent. And that
59:09
is we as opposed to West Texas.
WT
59:12
Adam Curry: right. What is What
does Iran have? Do they have the
59:15
good stuff?
59:16
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's a good question. I have no
59:17
idea. I should know. Yeah, but I
don't will disappoint. Look it
59:22
up.
59:23
Adam Curry: So here in Texas. Of
course. We had the text some of
59:28
the ladies on the text like
Hamas is coming across the
59:31
border. No, no, no.
59:35
John C Dvorak: But Texas. Yes.
59:38
Adam Curry: People get spun up
like crazy. And this was wall to
59:41
wall. I mean, I was monitoring
all the channels. And it was
59:45
just like Kerr flip like boom
all you had and BBC didn't BBC
59:50
usually at night. They switched
to like Africa news. You know,
59:56
that these long form things of
me know something by Africa a
1:00:00
guy you get credibly boring very
boring or rice farmers somewhere
1:00:05
gets boring now they were there
wall to wall and you know when
1:00:09
you have a WOLF BLITZER on the
SAT working on a Saturday is
1:00:12
real that that then something's
going on and then you have
1:00:16
Brennan coming up, come on. So
but in Texas, the guys the guys
1:00:21
are like, hey, now I'm real
sorry what happened there but
1:00:25
170 miles from here I got stuff
that's coming across the border
1:00:28
that I don't want in my state.
So this is our transition.
1:00:33
Unknown: Tonight, President
Biden who rallied against Donald
1:00:35
Trump's border wall, clearing
the way for more wall to be
1:00:39
built, facing a surge of
migrants and a humanitarian
1:00:42
crisis, sending 10s of 1000s
across the US border, his own
1:00:47
homeland security director
saying today, there is presently
1:00:50
an acute and immediate need to
construct physical barriers and
1:00:54
roads in the vicinity of the
border in order to prevent
1:00:57
unlawful entries into the United
States. President Biden
1:01:01
defending the decision to use
millions of dollars of Trump era
1:01:04
funds to build more wall along
the US Mexico border, saying he
1:01:08
had no choice.
1:01:09
You pledged not to build another
border wall what changed?
1:01:15
The President himself today
admitting he does not believe a
1:01:18
wall is effective.
1:01:19
I tried to get them to
reappropriate three track that
1:01:22
money. They didn't they
wouldn't. In the meantime,
1:01:25
there's nothing under the law
other than they have to use the
1:01:28
money for what it is. Do you
believe the border wall works?
1:01:33
No. Are Selena
1:01:34
Wang pressing the White House.
1:01:36
But why now for instance, these
funds have been available since
1:01:39
Biden took office why we have to
comply by law to get this done.
1:01:44
And that's what you're seeing
happening right now.
1:01:46
But the reality this
administration faces is stark
1:01:49
10s of 1000s crossing the border
more than 2.2 million since last
1:01:54
October. And the political
pressure is mounting with
1:01:57
Congress unable to find a
solution. The president today
1:02:00
criticized by Democrats for
breaking his campaign promise
1:02:04
there will not be another foot
of wall destructive in my
1:02:08
administration. Now there will
be up to 20 miles of new wall
1:02:11
here in south Texas, some
sections over 18 feet high using
1:02:16
funds that were appropriated in
2019. During the Trump
1:02:20
administration, specifically for
the wall, Trump building just 52
1:02:25
miles of new border wall while
replacing already existing 450
1:02:30
miles of that wall
1:02:31
in 2016. You remember this? I
ran on the border wall that was
1:02:36
a big deal.
1:02:37
With the surge of migrants
showing no signs of slowing down
1:02:40
overwhelming cities coast to
coast. The administration today
1:02:44
announcing they will resume
direct deportations of
1:02:47
Venezuelan migrants just weeks
after expanding protected status
1:02:51
for 1000s. And plans to send up
to $10 million to Panama to help
1:02:56
them deport migrants back to
their home countries.
1:03:00
Adam Curry: And so we have
another act in the little play
1:03:02
of the border. Oh, yes. So the
alternative media that we that
1:03:10
like to tout themselves as so
good. They're so full of crap.
1:03:15
John C Dvorak: That I want to
mention something about Biden's
1:03:18
bullcrap excuse, so I had to do
it because of the law, they have
1:03:21
to now break something like 24
to 26 laws to build those walls,
1:03:25
because there's all these
environmental laws that were put
1:03:27
in place that have to be
violated or, you know, ignored
1:03:31
or looked the other way. So
that's nonsense. He didn't have
1:03:35
to build an anything if you
didn't want to these for some
1:03:39
reason. They're building the I
think they've lost control of
1:03:42
the well, they lost control the
br I know they wanted an open
1:03:44
border, they got their open
border now it's like a little
1:03:46
bit more than they can deal
with. I disagree.
1:03:49
Adam Curry: What's happened here
is they heard our deconstruction
1:03:54
of what's really going on with
the NGOs like crap. Karina
1:03:57
Racker. onto it. We have to we
have to distract everybody. We
1:04:01
have to come on everybody. Let's
put on a little show. What can
1:04:05
we do? How can we focus
everybody away from the NGOs
1:04:09
bring in to see as a candidate,
1:04:12
Unknown: President Biden say,
there will not be another foot
1:04:15
of wall constructed that except
for what was appropriated in
1:04:20
2019. He said, There will not be
another foot wall constructed in
1:04:24
my administration. So something
changed. What
1:04:27
do you want us to break the law?
Is that what you want? You want
1:04:30
us to not comply with the law?
I'm not. With the law, you want
1:04:36
us to not be in administrations
that follow
1:04:39
all the time, the student loans,
the student loan forgiveness
1:04:43
program, you went to court to
fight for that, if this is such
1:04:46
a problem building 20 miles of
wall, why not just go to court,
1:04:50
we went to Congress, the
Congress appropriates the
1:04:52
funding, why Congress, Congress
appropriates the funding. We
1:04:56
asked them to not use that
funding for that particular The
1:05:00
purpose, they denied it. And now
we're complying with the law
1:05:04
if you have to build a border
wall, but you don't think that
1:05:07
it's going to work, then once
it's done, are you just going to
1:05:09
tear it down?
1:05:10
I'm not getting into
hypotheticals. I'm just telling
1:05:13
you what I can tell you from
here. The facts are that DHS is
1:05:17
complying with the law. This is
from fiscal year this was under
1:05:20
fiscal year 2019. Under
Republican leadership, and DHS
1:05:24
is required to do this. The
President asked multiple times
1:05:27
of Congress to reappropriate
they did not and we're not
1:05:30
complying by the law. Thanks,
everybody. I'm
1:05:32
Adam Curry: telling you, this is
a little show to give
1:05:34
John C Dvorak: us a total show.
It's gotten. It's gotten to the
1:05:37
point where it's ludicrous
1:05:38
Adam Curry: and this little show
is for the alternative media. So
1:05:41
Dan bond, Gino and Tim Poole I
can't say that with certainty
1:05:49
would probably Megyn Kelly,
maybe went to Greek Glenn Beck,
1:05:54
you know, Ben Shapiro, and he
probably is. I mean, here's the
1:06:00
this are alternative media that
everyone touted as, oh, this is
1:06:04
great. It's independent. They're
stupid. They aren't they get
1:06:09
distracted by shiny little
things that is clickbait that
1:06:12
will get them more advertising
money.
1:06:15
John C Dvorak: It's clickbait.
It's advertising. It's not
1:06:18
stupidity.
1:06:19
Unknown: That's such a good
point, Dan, and we talk about
1:06:21
this idea of psychogeography is
right, the idea that anyone
1:06:24
alive today is entangled in this
complex web of semiotics based
1:06:28
on their geopolitical bioethical
socio economic ethno linguistic
1:06:32
positionality.
1:06:32
Adam Curry: This is this is the
kind of fanatic This is the kind
1:06:36
of alternative media that people
are all clickbaity about
1:06:39
Unknown: it. And so it becomes
necessary
1:06:41
John C Dvorak: as it goes on
your college essay, the
1:06:44
beginning of a junior college
essay by somebody trying to show
1:06:46
off to their teacher.
1:06:48
Adam Curry: It's kind of my
point. It's an example of what
1:06:50
people are actually listening
to,
1:06:52
Unknown: and encode our own meta
ontologies because at the end of
1:06:56
the day, meta on geology, even
perceptual paradigms, rather
1:07:02
paradigm, tension between a
space a heuristic bubble, if you
1:07:06
will, this is
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: a real estate
bubble. Where did you get this?
1:07:09
This is a fake. Of course, this
is somebody who put together a
1:07:13
bunch of gobbledygook Yes.
1:07:14
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. Yes, yes.
A fake the whole it's it's a
1:07:19
persiflage. It's to show people
what they're listening to
1:07:23
Unknown: resonant hermeneutics
can unfold in a post modern
1:07:26
Okay, now
1:07:27
John C Dvorak: I get it, I get
it. I should have picked it up
1:07:29
sooner. I picked up the
complaining sooner but now that
1:07:32
I'm hearing all
1:07:33
Adam Curry: of it. So let's talk
about what's really happening I
1:07:36
get
1:07:36
John C Dvorak: it right that
kind of stuff. Now of course you
1:07:38
can.
1:07:40
Adam Curry: Salvation Army is.
Let's see here is a boots on the
1:07:45
ground from one of our producers
while I was at the Roosevelt
1:07:47
Hotel migrant process. Now this
is not from us. But this is a
1:07:50
boots on the ground, not from
one of our people. Roosevelt
1:07:53
Hotel in New York migrant
processing center spoke to my
1:07:56
migrants who just arrived in New
York City by plane and they had
1:07:59
a piece of paper from the
Salvation Army. Because the
1:08:03
Salvation Army's putting people
on the planes at the end that's
1:08:06
a nice little Salvation Army and
it says Dear TSA employee, the
1:08:11
individual standing in front of
you have recently been
1:08:13
discharged from a US immigration
detention facility they don't
1:08:16
speak English please give them
passes. Then I've paperwork
1:08:19
please let them on Salvation
Army doing the most good. So the
1:08:24
Salvation Army is putting people
on a plane. Go ahead, but please
1:08:29
do your podcast about the while.
Peter Doocy so good man, he
1:08:32
really put that Korean jam
cameras point her career is
1:08:35
over. I mean, I saw it you sound
1:08:37
John C Dvorak: like been in
business. She's been there too
1:08:40
long already.
1:08:41
Adam Curry: And how are they
getting here? Oh, they're on the
1:08:44
beach train. It's really
horrible. Oh my goodness. They
1:08:48
have they traveled for weeks the
coyotes the rape tree, a grim
1:08:52
Unknown: scene in southern
Mexico as rescue teams and
1:08:55
forensic staff recover the
bodies of migrants killed after
1:08:59
their bus tipped over along the
curve on the road.
1:09:02
Adam Curry: Now this bus, luxury
touring bus from Oaxaca tours
1:09:09
Mexico America and it's like one
of those you know like a like a
1:09:13
band
1:09:13
John C Dvorak: bring luxury.
really fancy but vans or buses.
1:09:17
It wasn't two story but a film
but you're up on a second kind
1:09:20
of a second
1:09:21
Adam Curry: row. Yeah, and all
everything is in the in the
1:09:24
whole everything that you know
the later of course you have to
1:09:26
empty your suitcase putting the
plastic bag to cross the Rio
1:09:29
Grande for the little show.
1:09:30
Unknown: It happened along the
highway in the central state of
1:09:33
Puebla.
1:09:35
We are members of the medical
service. We were notified at
1:09:38
around 440 In the morning about
the accident. 10 minutes later
1:09:41
the first ambulance arrived.
There were many injured over 25.
1:09:44
State police say a total of 55
migrants were on board, most of
1:09:48
them from Venezuela and others
from Haiti. Among those killed
1:09:52
two women and three children
1:09:54
Adam Curry: does I like how they
positioned it two to three to
1:09:57
two women, three children and
we're 50 on board Are there 25
1:10:01
that were killed, so it's pretty
much all young workers
1:10:04
Unknown: were injured and are
being treated at nearby
1:10:06
hospitals. The crash is the
latest in a series of migrant
1:10:09
deaths in Mexico. Last week, 10
Cuban migrants died and 17 more
1:10:14
were injured when their freight
truck crashed in the neighboring
1:10:16
state of Chiapas. No Videoder
with Guatemala, the dangers of
1:10:20
the journey are not slowing the
growing number of migrants
1:10:23
traveling
1:10:23
Adam Curry: then they just go on
and of course, you know, they're
1:10:25
going to show the beasts train.
This is Southern Mexico. So
1:10:29
they're coming into southern
Mexico. They're not walking
1:10:31
across Mexico, they're going by
the Luxury Bus paid for by your
1:10:36
NGOs. People were looking stuff
let's get
1:10:41
John C Dvorak: back to the rich
paid for it. Who's really behind
1:10:43
this the State Department your
tax,
1:10:46
Adam Curry: tax money, people
were looking up? Like the what
1:10:49
was it was on no agenda social.
The N for it wasn't like one of
1:10:55
those big ones. And it was a
half a billion dollars last
1:10:59
year. State Department USA ID
money half
1:11:02
$1,000,000,000.04 190 $7
million. That's just one of
1:11:07
these outfits. And Oh, thank
goodness. There's good news.
1:11:12
Because Amy Pope, former State
Department official under
1:11:15
Hillary Clinton, by the way, she
is now really irking me she
1:11:19
talks out of the side of her
mouth. She actually I think she
1:11:23
has the same doctor that does
fillers that Hillary has. And
1:11:28
they had who
1:11:29
John C Dvorak: else talks to
this a mil you think is Yeah,
1:11:31
London breed the mayor of San
Francisco talks out of the side
1:11:35
of her mouth.
1:11:36
Adam Curry: right side or left
side? That wish I believe breed
1:11:40
talks out of the right side.
This is right side right side
1:11:43
mouth, you know, the lip goes up
a little bit.
1:11:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Are you
gonna talk like this? Yeah.
1:11:47
Adam Curry: Yeah. And eventually
has kind of that puffy, puffy
1:11:50
Hillary type face. You know,
clearly the same. She She
1:11:55
probably went to her hairdresser
and said, I want the same thing
1:11:57
paradise for Hillary. She got
kind of the second rate one.
1:12:01
It's not exactly good. So she is
the
1:12:04
John C Dvorak: Hillary we've
only seen Hillary with the hair
1:12:06
done right once.
1:12:08
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. And it
was really pretty dynamite. Then
1:12:11
it was dynamite. So Amy Pope,
former Clinton nista, former
1:12:16
State Department official, now
director, General Director
1:12:21
General of the International
Office of migration, a UN
1:12:26
organization with tons of money,
they had a big shindig, they had
1:12:31
this I'm still clipping from it.
I can't decide if I want to do
1:12:36
it a package or not, but they
had a full three day
1:12:41
John C Dvorak: but three day
shindig a three
1:12:43
Adam Curry: day shindig on a
second exactly what it was
1:12:47
called
1:12:47
John C Dvorak: the money coming
out of your ears.
1:12:50
Adam Curry: Oh, it was called
the international dialogue on
1:12:58
migration. Think about tomorrow
acts today the future of human
1:13:05
mobility. And then was great
because they had they had all
1:13:09
kinds of stuff going on. And
they and the part that's
1:13:13
interesting is because they put
up a the full live video when
1:13:17
they're testing and setting
everything up and you know,
1:13:20
getting the PowerPoint slides.
And then the moderator this
1:13:23
young woman she comes on and and
she says I'm doing now here what
1:13:27
we call filling time because
we're waiting for everybody to
1:13:30
come back from coffee. And you
know if you're a consultant you
1:13:34
really want to get in here now
because this and she literally
1:13:36
is saying this stuff like you
consultants that you know your
1:13:40
money, your money train is about
to leave all aboard woo woo. So
1:13:45
they haven't quite cut it all up
yet. And I'm waiting to see what
1:13:47
they put on their YouTube
channel. But Amy Pope, Director
1:13:50
General of IOM, the Honorable
Amy Pope, she did do a little
1:13:55
quick hit a quick hit for the
Instagram and Twitter. We just
1:13:59
finished
1:13:59
Unknown: an incredible day and a
half for the international
1:14:02
dialogue for migration. We had
singing, we had dancing, we had
1:14:05
artwork, and we had
extraordinarily thoughtful
1:14:08
conversation.
1:14:11
Adam Curry: We had singing and I
have some examples of that. Oh
1:14:14
my god
1:14:15
John C Dvorak: singing and
dance. Social guy
1:14:19
Adam Curry: singing and dancing
and artwork. And there were
1:14:23
black people doing creative
stuff. That's all that's missing
1:14:25
from what she's saying Here you
horrible racist piece of crap
1:14:28
and
1:14:29
Unknown: dancing. We had artwork
and we had extraordinarily
1:14:32
thoughtful conversation about
the impact of climate change on
1:14:35
human mobility. Now as we move
toward cop 28, it is critical
1:14:40
that we put all of these ideas
into action, action that enables
1:14:44
people who are impacted by
climate change, to find better
1:14:48
solutions, whether they're
already on the move, whether
1:14:51
they are looking for options to
stay at home, or whether they
1:14:55
need new opportunities because
climate change will cause their
1:14:59
own and options to disappear.
The time for action is now an
1:15:04
IOM can't wait to be part of it
1:15:06
Adam Curry: can't wait to be
part of it. So this is the plan.
1:15:11
Everything's climate, hey, we
can't not let these people in
1:15:16
this climate change their
climate migrants, and they need
1:15:20
climate justice. And we do that
with climate finance. He yesI
1:15:27
that's how it works. Climate and
this,
1:15:34
John C Dvorak: and this is,
again, too many balls in the air
1:15:36
these people,
1:15:36
Adam Curry: I think, but the
climate thing, I think they can
1:15:39
they can leverage that, you
know, and this is, this is a
1:15:42
good way to do it, because
there's billions it's billions
1:15:45
flowing from it. You know, we're
not, we're not we're anything,
1:15:48
we're heating up our own
countries by bringing in more
1:15:50
bodies. I mean, just think of
that logic,
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: or somebody
should put that together as a
1:15:56
formula.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: So Chicago is now
people in Chicago are flipping
1:16:01
out. They are bringing in 25
buses a day. 20
1:16:07
John C Dvorak: Because the
Chicago blacks that are really
1:16:10
Yes,
1:16:11
Adam Curry: they are. Here's
nothing new still
1:16:13
John C Dvorak: vote Democrat. I
don't know. baffling. ASBO facts
1:16:17
why that is?
1:16:19
Adam Curry: Well, it's because
they got promised they got
1:16:21
promised goodness. But you know,
if you look on Tik Tok, even the
1:16:26
Chicago blocks like, I don't
know, man, that's trumpet
1:16:28
looking good. Now, he gangsta.
So Chicago local television is
1:16:33
where it's at now. And here's so
here's a reporter saying, Well,
1:16:39
you know, let's just explain
this whole concept of sanctuary
1:16:42
city and how we got into this
mess.
1:16:43
Unknown: Broadly speaking, it
can be defined as cities,
1:16:46
counties, or states with laws
dictating how much local
1:16:50
jurisdictions can cooperate with
federal immigration officials.
1:16:54
So there are 11 states that have
made themselves a sanctuary
1:16:58
states and hundreds of cities
and counties that have their own
1:17:02
range of policies. For example,
Chicago, they have a so called
1:17:07
welcoming city ordinance, and
that means that they do not ask
1:17:12
about immigration status or use
that to deny city services.
1:17:16
Officials also are not allowed
to provide Immigrations and
1:17:19
Customs Enforcement support. And
then there is Clayton County.
1:17:24
That's in Georgia, it has a much
narrower, narrower definition.
1:17:28
Officers do not honor ice
requests to detain migrants for
1:17:32
deportation. So many sanctuary
city laws revolve around ice
1:17:36
detainment requests. Here's how
it works. Essentially, when
1:17:41
you're arrested and you're
booked for a crime, law
1:17:42
enforcement takes your
fingerprints. And then those
1:17:45
fingerprints are automatically
sent to federal databases,
1:17:48
including one ice maintains for
unauthorized immigrants. Now ice
1:17:53
can send a detainer request to
ask local police to hold a
1:17:58
person until the agency arrives.
At sanctuary cities However,
1:18:03
they do not enforce those
requests. There you go.
1:18:10
Adam Curry: sanctuary cities, it
sounded good. Yes, of course we
1:18:15
hate Trump. Of course we like
we'd like foreigners. We're our
1:18:20
country's built on migration.
1:18:23
John C Dvorak: That's my
favorite. Yes.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: We are an
immigration country. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:28
Legal. But I think, Oh, by the
way, Chicago, the solution now
1:18:34
that Pritzker, the governor who
has a new sister, the the
1:18:40
governor is his solution is we
need to approve these people to
1:18:47
work really quick. I mean, it's,
it's so it's so perfect. The
1:18:51
same thing they did in in New
York. Yeah. It's like, oh, we
1:18:55
bring them in, oh, we need
temporary protected status for
1:18:58
these people quickly. Because
otherwise, they're just gonna be
1:19:01
sitting around not being useful,
using up resources. So let's
1:19:06
give them jobs, which will give
it nonprofits, which in turn are
1:19:11
funded, which in turn are funded
by the city, the state and state
1:19:15
department. It's great. It's a
very, very good system. How
1:19:18
about Guatemala? I think the
next TPS, temporary protected
1:19:23
status should come for the
Guatemalans and I think
1:19:26
John C Dvorak: why Guatemala,
that was the reason for
1:19:28
Venezuela. There's no reason for
Guatemala. Here it is.
1:19:31
Unknown: Guatemala is in the
middle of a huge political
1:19:34
crisis.
1:19:35
Yeah. Okay. So here's what's
happening. A presidential
1:19:37
election was held in August. The
results were already certified.
1:19:41
But the Attorney General and
other officials have made it
1:19:43
clear that they want to
challenge those results. And
1:19:46
that's led protesters to take to
the streets all over the
1:19:49
country.
1:19:50
Guatemala is now entering a
fifth day of a national strike.
1:19:54
And Paris ADA Peralta is the in
the middle of it all in
1:19:56
Guatemala City and he joins us
now hi, either. Hey, Leila. So
1:20:00
We'll start with how we got here
and what's at stake.
1:20:03
So look, as you mentioned this
start. This starts in earlier
1:20:07
this summer when that not really
ever low wins the presidential
1:20:09
election. And this was a huge
surprise because that ever law
1:20:13
came from a small reformist
party and he was the anti
1:20:16
corruption candidate. No one
thought he could win an almost
1:20:20
as soon as he does when the
ruling elite here who have been
1:20:24
terrified of actually being held
responsible for their
1:20:27
corruption. Well, they have done
their best to undo this when the
1:20:32
Electoral Commission actually
certified the results but the
1:20:34
Attorney General has said she is
investigating the president
1:20:38
elects party and on Saturday,
her office raided the Electoral
1:20:41
Commission, the investigators
ripped into bags of elections
1:20:45
material, and then by force,
they left with a bunch of
1:20:48
electoral materials. And they
haven't said why. One
1:20:51
constitutional expert I spoke to
says that what the my left is
1:20:54
clearly in my law,
constitutional territory. We're
1:20:58
important branches of government
are fighting with each other for
1:21:01
supremacy. And that fight may
very well determined if better
1:21:05
not about Mr. Lowe, who was
elected in a landslide will
1:21:08
actually take power in January.
1:21:10
Adam Curry: I'm just saying I've
been who gives a crap about
1:21:13
Guatemala. Well, it's time to
bro
1:21:14
John C Dvorak: I think. I don't
have any clips from it. But I
1:21:17
Ecuador's even more in chaos.
Oh, the perfect bring them in.
1:21:21
They took the guy who was
running the opposition guy, they
1:21:24
put him in jail and shot him. I
think it's a little better. So
1:21:28
this is a deal more
straightforward. A
1:21:31
Adam Curry: record map of
Guatemala we have a lot of ties
1:21:34
with Guatemala.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: The total goes
back television back to the
1:21:39
Adam Curry: I was just looking
at this. I was on the website of
1:21:41
the IO IOM annual report 2022.
They have the exact they have a
1:21:49
an infographic
1:21:51
John C Dvorak: very pretty
infographic
1:21:55
Adam Curry: infographic that
they read. 31 million people
1:21:58
were reached in 2022. Across 170
countries with $2 billion. These
1:22:04
included IDPs internally
displaced persons, refugees and
1:22:08
migrants. And look they've done
stuff like the cccm. I don't
1:22:12
know what that means. But more
than 4 million people reach
1:22:14
through camp coordination and
camp management operations and
1:22:18
37 countries.
1:22:21
John C Dvorak: Fails camp
management.
1:22:23
Adam Curry: Well, that sounds
like an coordination. I think
1:22:26
this is how they coordinate
before they put them on the bus.
1:22:29
Hey, I'm gonna look at this. I'm
gonna dive into this report.
1:22:31
Because then they're proud of
what they're doing. That's the
1:22:34
thing. They're not bashful
1:22:36
John C Dvorak: or should they
be?
1:22:39
Adam Curry: Well done.
1:22:40
John C Dvorak: Nobody cares.
1:22:41
Adam Curry: Well, that you know,
once they hear the Karelian
1:22:43
devoir Consulting Group, oh,
yeah,
1:22:44
John C Dvorak: that's gonna do
it. They're gonna put a stop to
1:22:47
a lot of stuff.
1:22:51
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. But this,
this, this woman this. This Amy
1:22:57
Poehler,
1:22:57
John C Dvorak: let's talk about
what's going on at least get
1:22:59
this out of the way. I've got
some clips from the PBS Brooks
1:23:03
and they had this Ruth woman
who's the editor of one of the
1:23:07
editors of the Washington Post,
and they had him up there.
1:23:09
Again, this is the end of the on
the Friday show. They bring in
1:23:12
these two commentators, David
Brooks from the New York Times
1:23:16
and someone from the Washington
Post, and they both trash
1:23:19
Republicans and trashed there's
no balance. There's no, no
1:23:23
insight. There's not somebody
saying well wonder why he said,
1:23:26
Why did Trump say that? No, no,
he didn't did there's nothing
1:23:29
like that. They won one time
they had a guy from the some
1:23:34
South Asian from the National
Review who actually tried to
1:23:40
explain things to people. But
why why bother? Let's listen to
1:23:44
books on how Speaker
1:23:46
Unknown: I say the word
unprecedent hits so much. I feel
1:23:49
it's losing some of its power.
But this week was unprecedented
1:23:52
to see the ousting of the
sitting House Speaker Kevin
1:23:56
McCarthy David let's just start
with that and how you're
1:23:59
reflecting on what unfolded this
week. Yeah,
1:24:01
well, there was a precedent
which was Caligula in the
1:24:03
Clinton for the Roman person.
Obviously joking, but But
1:24:10
Adam Curry: when was he Are you
sure was joking? Obviously
1:24:12
joking. Obviously. What a
douche.
1:24:16
Unknown: Totally unfold the
room. Obviously joking, but, but
1:24:22
in some sense, Donald Trump
introduced a note of of
1:24:25
narcissistic hucksterism, into
the American body politic. And
1:24:29
it's been interesting to watch
it spread throughout his party.
1:24:32
So I would say Vivek Ramaswamy
falls into that camp and
1:24:35
certainly Matt Gates and his
crew. This was not about any
1:24:38
substantive thing. This was just
pure chauvinism. showbusiness,
1:24:41
pure nihilism drove Ben, so you
have a group of people for whom
1:24:44
this is all nihilistic fun, but
then you see how it spreads. And
1:24:48
so in the middle of all the
fight over the speaker, there
1:24:51
was a meeting with the moderate
problem solvers club caucus, and
1:24:53
they were trying to get the
Democrats to save McCarthy. And
1:24:56
in the past, there had been talk
that had been reported the Nancy
1:24:59
Pelosi had told John Boehner
when he was speaker, she would
1:25:01
she wouldn't destroy the
institution, she would stand
1:25:03
behind him. But there's so much
distrust even among the
1:25:06
moderates, they couldn't come
close to a deal that would have
1:25:09
saved McCarthy and would have
prevented the meltdown we've
1:25:12
seen. So the rod is here, but
it's just spread throughout the
1:25:15
institution. It's just
fascinating, morbidly, to
1:25:18
Washington institution be torn
apart by show business, distrust
1:25:22
and hucksterism.
1:25:23
Adam Curry: Wow, he's not wrong
on the show business part. I
1:25:26
mean,
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: well, the show
Yes. Well, we've already made
1:25:28
that claim. But the idea of
nihilism fun, which is
1:25:33
ludicrous, is a it's a non
sequitur of some sort. But it's
1:25:39
nihilism is a rejection of
everything in life is
1:25:42
meaningless. You're just a
depressive. There's you don't
1:25:44
have fun. There's no such thing
as nihilistic fun. It's
1:25:48
oxymoron. So that's kind of
weird that he said that. But the
1:25:51
other thing is that nobody wants
to point this out. It was 100%
1:25:56
of the Democrats that voted
McCarthy out. Yeah, he was only
1:25:59
a couple Republicans eight to be
exact. That said, No, we
1:26:03
wouldn't don't want McCarthy but
the Democrats are the ones that
1:26:06
are they denial lists. It's all
Democrats. It's all the
1:26:10
Democrats. It wasn't one
Democrat. This is all we keep
1:26:13
the guy. No, it was. But no, no,
no, it's always somehow this is
1:26:16
all of the Republicans fault. So
okay, whatever. Let's go to the
1:26:20
second part of this. And this is
the I think it's got a little
1:26:25
insight on why I think Scalise
might win. This is Brooks again,
1:26:29
Brooks yakking away and Ukraine
funding.
1:26:33
Unknown: David, this is not just
about politics and the party.
1:26:36
There were real world impacts.
As Ruth mentioned, the bills are
1:26:39
not passing through the house at
this moment. What does this mean
1:26:42
for Ukraine funding? Right? So
1:26:43
Steve Scalise support to Ukraine
funding and speedcraft farmers
1:26:47
for future speaker but Jordan
does not. And so to me, that's
1:26:50
the big issue here. If if
Scalise doesn't get it, it's
1:26:53
hard to see how Ukraine funding
goes through the big anomaly.
1:26:57
It's a remarkable thing to say,
by the way, compared to where we
1:26:59
were a year ago. And compared to
some of the atrocities that
1:27:01
happened this week and Ukraine
1:27:05
John C Dvorak: compared to where
we were a year ago, and compared
1:27:10
to the atrocities,
1:27:11
Adam Curry: let's listen again,
if
1:27:13
John C Dvorak: we what is what
sense, does that mean I want
1:27:16
Unknown: to hear it again,
doesn't get it. It's hard to see
1:27:17
how Ukraine funding goes through
the big anomaly. The remarkable
1:27:21
thing to say, by the way,
compared to where we were a year
1:27:23
ago compared to some of the
atrocities that happened this
1:27:25
week in Ukraine.
1:27:29
John C Dvorak: But does that
mean? Well, a year ago, you're
1:27:32
all in supporting Ukraine, but
compared to atrocities,
1:27:36
Adam Curry: some atrocities took
place this week.
1:27:40
John C Dvorak: But what is
support got to do with anything?
1:27:43
I mean, he's saying, comparing
the support of what it where we
1:27:47
are today and where we were. And
atrocities I mean, it's just as
1:27:52
an atrocity. It's got nothing to
do with it.
1:27:53
Adam Curry: How you are really
pissed off at this Brooks guy.
1:27:56
Oh, this
1:27:57
John C Dvorak: guy is so bad.
He's just yammering about stuff.
1:27:59
And he's nervous. I can't
understand why.
1:28:03
Adam Curry: I have to play our
disclaimer. elitist voices of
1:28:07
America. This is NPR or PBS.
1:28:13
John C Dvorak: Alright, now what
really is bad about the PBS
1:28:17
thing? And I want to play this
again, Ruth, the other one. This
1:28:22
is the Brooks Ruth, on Trump PBS
clip. And it's, again, it's the
1:28:30
lack of any sort of balance.
It's just like, Trump's in a all
1:28:35
Yeah, you're right. Trump's in a
hole. This is not what you're
1:28:39
supposed to do with these two
people. They're supposed to be
1:28:42
balanced one of them. The fact
they should be argumentative at
1:28:45
some level, but they don't even
get that far. They're just
1:28:48
arguing about how much in
agreement they are. Listen to
1:28:51
this, I need
1:28:52
Unknown: to ask you about as
well about something else we've
1:28:54
been reporting on. You may have
seen Laura Barron Lopez report
1:28:56
earlier this week that she has
been tracking some of the
1:28:58
ramping up of violent rhetoric
by former President Trump,
1:29:02
actually, in her report, just
recent remarks that she has been
1:29:06
reporting on earlier last month,
Mr. Trump suggested that General
1:29:10
Mark Milley should be executed.
He then went on to mock the
1:29:14
assault on Paul Pelosi, Nancy
Pelosi, his husband he called
1:29:17
for shoplifters to be shot on
site late last month
1:29:20
Adam Curry: house. Okay, How
stupid are these people? He's
1:29:23
doing exactly what he did the
first time around. He's getting
1:29:26
in your head and you're talking
about him just
1:29:28
Unknown: a few days ago, he said
that migrants are, quote,
1:29:30
poisoning the blood of our
country which is echoing the
1:29:34
language of white supremacists
and of Adolf Hitler. Yeah, and
1:29:38
invoke those words. It's
remarkable to me that I have
1:29:42
been repeating some of these
words right now. But are we at
1:29:45
risk of becoming numb to some of
this language?
1:29:48
I think we've been at risk of
that for the last seven years
1:29:51
and I think all of us around
this table have struggled with
1:29:55
the conflict between giving this
man and his odious comments
1:30:02
oxygen, which is what he wants,
which is what fuels him, and
1:30:06
failing to expose them failing
to if you are an opinion
1:30:11
columnist like we are failing to
denounce them, and therefore
1:30:16
allowing them to just percolate.
i This is
1:30:19
Adam Curry: so meta. This is
fantastic. It's like, we're
1:30:24
doing exactly what he wants us
to do. And we're not doing what
1:30:27
we shouldn't be doing. And we're
on PBS doing it. This is, this
1:30:32
is great. This is the true
demise of of mainstream, odious
1:30:36
Unknown: comments, oxygen, which
is what he wants, which is what
1:30:40
fuels him and failing to expose
them failing to if you have an
1:30:46
opinion columnists like we are
failing to denounce them, and
1:30:51
therefore allowing them to just
percolate. I think we see this
1:30:55
now, with his persistence in the
polls, and he is clearly ramped
1:31:02
up the rhetoric. I can't
remember whether you mentioned
1:31:04
the Mark Milley held the poison
the blood is the part that
1:31:10
really sickens me. And we see
right now, the justice system
1:31:15
trying to grapple with how to
keep him under control, as it
1:31:19
tries to hold him to account. I
think we need to be really
1:31:23
careful not to ignore him. But
we need to be really careful not
1:31:27
to feed what he wants, either by
overreacting or under reacting.
1:31:33
And I don't have the solution to
that.
1:31:35
Adam Curry: Geez, this is great
1:31:39
John C Dvorak: pearl clutching.
Now
1:31:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, of
1:31:44
John C Dvorak: course the other
person should now the other
1:31:46
counter argument would be
someone trying to explain what's
1:31:49
going on or even do what you
just did, which was say this is
1:31:53
a matter that you're dealing
with and this is what he needs
1:31:56
to stop. You know, you can you
you can pay attention or not pay
1:32:01
attention. Some of it you have
to look at as humorous. Mark
1:32:06
Milley should be executed.
shoplifters should be shot. This
1:32:11
is funny. So but nobody no, we
don't have that. Instead we get
1:32:16
this. Here's Brooks with his
counter.
1:32:19
Unknown: David, how do you view
it? Yeah, well,
1:32:20
there's the platform for a
second term. I mean, he's he's
1:32:23
talking the way authoritarians
talk like the real hardcore
1:32:25
authoritarians talk. And so he's
got to ramp up the rhetoric
1:32:28
continually to keep the crowd
pleased. And then he's got a he
1:32:32
I think he's growing
increasingly as he's threatened
1:32:34
increasingly, I don't know if
the range is too strong a word,
1:32:37
but also the word. Okay, I'll
stick with the range. You know,
1:32:43
I'm, I don't know how to stop.
Well, people like Dustin.
1:32:48
And there's one other element in
there which is
1:32:51
Adam Curry: he's like, how is
this our job? People like us
1:32:55
have to stop this. We're
powerless. But people like us
1:32:57
know the elites. We have to stop
this. This is no good.
1:33:00
Unknown: And so you know, the
I'm I don't know how to start.
1:33:06
How people like Dustin
1:33:08
Adam Curry: what is people like
us? What do you think that
1:33:10
people like us? Is that
1:33:12
John C Dvorak: all you said it
the elites the ones who know
1:33:15
better? People like us people
like us the the we're supposed
1:33:20
to stop it? I don't know why and
she had been Bruce has already
1:33:22
given up she's I don't know what
to do about it. I mean, people
1:33:25
like us. People like gosh, I
can't stop it. What are we gonna
1:33:29
do? Oh my god.
1:33:33
Unknown: I don't know how to how
people like us and
1:33:36
one other element in there,
which is he's he's doing his
1:33:40
punching. He's deranged. She
loves to do it. He is. But he is
1:33:45
also trying to force these
judges into overreacting and
1:33:48
making a mistake.
1:33:49
We expect to see more of that. I
think in the months ahead. RUTH
1:33:52
MARCUS, David Brooks, thank you
so much. Always good to see you.
1:33:54
Oh, it's
1:33:55
Adam Curry: good to see you.
Great job, everybody. All right,
1:33:57
everybody. Hey, let's go to the
bar. We had a great show was
1:34:00
good. Great show a great show.
Well, this is par for the course
1:34:05
because Hillary Clinton is out
swooping around. Oh, I should
1:34:08
have gotten little sweepsouth
Where's my your soup? Yeah, I
1:34:11
haven't. I haven't cackle. She's
out. She's out and about with
1:34:18
her friends. She's out with
Christiane Amanpour. That's
1:34:22
right. Oh, is here everybody.
1:34:27
Unknown: When you see a another
matchup between potentially
1:34:31
Trump and President Biden, what
goes through your mind and
1:34:34
particularly, how do you process
this person who's defeated you
1:34:39
back in 2016. Given all the
you've said 91 indictments, you
1:34:45
know, civil fraud, sexual
transgressions according to the
1:34:48
courts.
1:34:51
Adam Curry: Sexual
transgressions according to the
1:34:53
court, according to the code
into the court, according to the
1:34:56
court, I love it. It's something
about the British That's
1:35:00
Christiane uses that just makes
me feel so warm and fuzzy.
1:35:04
Unknown: How's this still
happening? Ha, ha, was
1:35:08
Adam Curry: it still happening?
We've got to join brookstown at
1:35:10
the pub.
1:35:11
Unknown: It's a classic tale of
an authoritarian, populist. Who
1:35:18
really has a good did
1:35:20
Adam Curry: Hitler have humor
like this? Did Mussolini have
1:35:23
humor? This is something we
should look up. Because it's so
1:35:29
classic. Did Mussolini say the
stuff that Trump says? Do you
1:35:32
have bits?
1:35:34
John C Dvorak: I bet you he did.
1:35:35
Adam Curry: I'm curious to find
out how is this still happening?
1:35:39
Unknown: It's a classic tale of
an authoritarian populist, who
1:35:47
really has a grip on the
emotional psychological needs
1:35:53
and desires of a portion of the
population.
1:35:58
Adam Curry: Okay, now, this is
good. Here. Let's go back into
1:36:01
the deplorables. He has a
psychological grip on a portion
1:36:06
of the population. At this
point. She's not even saying
1:36:08
Republicans or anything she is
saying a portion of the
1:36:11
population. If you feel that
she's talking about you, she's
1:36:15
probably talking about you.
1:36:17
Unknown: And the base of the
Republican Party, for whatever
1:36:21
combination of reasons and it is
emotional and psychological.
1:36:25
sees in him someone who speaks
for them. And they are
1:36:31
determined that they will
continue to vote for him attend
1:36:34
his rallies, where his
merchandise merch because for
1:36:39
whatever reason, he and his very
negative
1:36:45
Adam Curry: look for whatever
reason, so she hasn't even
1:36:47
really thought about the reason
why but for whatever reason, his
1:36:51
Unknown: merchandise, because
for whatever reason, good catch,
1:36:55
he and his very negative, nasty
form of politics resonates with
1:37:03
them. Maybe they don't like
migrants. Maybe they don't like
1:37:07
gay people, or black people, or
the woman who got the promotion
1:37:10
at work they didn't get.
1:37:12
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Well,
let's make sure let's make sure
1:37:14
we get this right. If you don't
like migrants, if you don't like
1:37:18
black people, if you don't like
that, what if you don't like
1:37:21
that woman who got the promotion
over you at work? Well vote for
1:37:24
Unknown: Trump is
1:37:26
John C Dvorak: nasty. We'll fix
it. We'll fix it right? Oh,
1:37:29
isn't
1:37:29
Unknown: eighths with them.
Maybe they don't like migrants.
1:37:32
Maybe they don't like gay people
or black people or the woman who
1:37:35
got the promotion at work. They
didn't get WIC whatever the
1:37:39
reason, you know, make America
great, again, was a bid for
1:37:43
nostalgia to return to a place
where where women did what we
1:37:48
told him, you know, people could
be in charge of their lives feel
1:37:53
empowered. Yes. See what they
want and screw that.
1:37:57
Adam Curry: But listen to his
where you could be in charge of
1:37:59
your life? Yes. Say we want Yes.
Yeah, we don't want
1:38:03
John C Dvorak: that. No, hold
on,
1:38:05
Unknown: be in charge of their
lives feel empowered, say what
1:38:09
they want and sold who ever came
in their way? And that was
1:38:13
really attractive to a
significant horse, you know?
1:38:18
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes.
1:38:19
John C Dvorak: This? I've heard
this clip. I was. I didn't clip
1:38:22
it.
1:38:23
Adam Curry: There's a part.
There's a part two, obviously.
1:38:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I didn't
hear that part. That is a
1:38:29
disgusting thing. She said,
1:38:30
Adam Curry: I know that. And
that's what I love about our
1:38:33
producers. Because everyone got
the part I'm about to play now.
1:38:38
And oh, listen to what she's
saying. But this part is really
1:38:40
the disgusting part.
1:38:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the
disgusting part is you you what
1:38:44
you wanted to be able to control
your own life and say what you
1:38:48
want.
1:38:50
Adam Curry: Oh, that's no good.
You can't be doing no
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: good. No good
because he wanted to make people
1:38:56
make their own decisions for
themselves.
1:38:58
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, that's
not how we do things around
1:39:01
here. And she and of course
1:39:02
John C Dvorak: I'm poor is an
idiot. She just sits there. Just
1:39:06
laps it up
1:39:08
Adam Curry: on port because they
have a wide shot to shot. She's
1:39:11
not even looking at Hillary.
She's looking. She's she's
1:39:14
looking at the wall. I think
she's stoned. She's looking at
1:39:16
the wall. She's looking. She's
not looking at Hillary while
1:39:19
she's talking. You know, if
someone's talking to
1:39:21
interviewing, you'd be kind of
intently looking at her. You
1:39:24
want
1:39:24
John C Dvorak: to kind of pay
attention to what they're
1:39:25
saying. So you might come up
with a question. She's
1:39:27
fidgeting.
1:39:29
Adam Curry: He's fidgeting and
it's weird. Very weird. Anyway,
1:39:33
here's the money shot. There
1:39:35
Unknown: wasn't this little tale
of extremism waving, you know,
1:39:39
wagging the dog of the
Republican Party, as it is
1:39:43
today. And sadly, so many of
those extremists those mega
1:39:47
extremists. Oh,
1:39:51
Adam Curry: the extremists.
That's the one that according to
1:39:53
Newsweek, the FBI is tracking
the mega extremists.
1:39:58
Unknown: Take their marching
orders from Donald Trump. Who
1:40:01
has no credibility left by any
measure? She's only in it for
1:40:06
himself. He's now defending
himself in civil actions and
1:40:09
criminal actions. And when do
they break with him? You know,
1:40:13
because at some point, you know,
maybe there needs to be a formal
1:40:18
deprogramming of the cult
members but something
1:40:23
Adam Curry: she finally said it,
but you're just being yourself
1:40:26
Hillary. You need to be
deprogrammed lady
1:40:31
John C Dvorak: you know that
earlier clip that part where she
1:40:34
said that people will what are
people think they want to? They
1:40:37
want to control their own lives
and speak freely? That's crazy.
1:40:41
You got his on believable? Yeah.
And of course, you're right.
1:40:46
Nobody picked up on that. No,
but they all picked up on the
1:40:49
deprogramming thing because it
kind of fits into some sort of,
1:40:52
I don't know, ranking 84 thing.
1:40:54
Adam Curry: So yeah. So here's
an example of someone who was
1:40:59
truly programmed, who truly is
part of a cult, a cult that and
1:41:05
you know, in the Netherlands now
the what's the what's that
1:41:08
climate Climate Change Group?
1:41:12
John C Dvorak: What's the
climate or die? Death?
1:41:16
Adam Curry: The Delta? No, no,
no, the climate is something x.
1:41:19
What is it gone? It's the I
can't remember the name. Well,
1:41:24
so they're out every convention
distinction. Yes. Extinction.
1:41:28
Something. Yeah. So they're out
every day on the 812 which is
1:41:34
the entryway extinction.
Rebellion. Thank you. Nation
1:41:37
rebellion. Yeah. Which is a
pretty important highway goes
1:41:41
through Thrift, which is in the
middle of the country of
1:41:43
freeway. Yeah. And they're out
there. And they stop traffic.
1:41:48
And they're doing it every
single day. And now they are
1:41:51
suing the government saying you
should not be allowed to spray
1:41:55
water cannons spray us with
water cannons, because we're
1:41:57
getting bruises. And poor baby.
Yeah, that's an actual debate.
1:42:02
It's crazy. So sky, Sky News.
HUBZone Zoey Cohen, now she's
1:42:09
from just stop oil. Which, you
know, I'll just go back to my
1:42:14
Well, I don't know whatever
happened to peak oil, but that
1:42:16
was going to stop all by itself.
But I guess it just keeps on
1:42:19
flowing. Zoe. It's unbelievable.
She is and she I would call her
1:42:23
a climate tard she is so upset,
even at the people on the news.
1:42:28
And these specific these news
people. What are you doing?
1:42:32
Unknown: How worse does it have
to get how many kids often die?
1:42:40
I don't know what else to say.
Why aren't you on the streets?
1:42:43
We're less that's all I can say.
How do you explain your
1:42:47
inaction? To explain it?
Everyone here are the presenters
1:42:51
that we talked to how do you
explain your inaction? How much
1:42:54
longer you're going to keep this
journalistic objectivity up
1:42:58
until the waters laughing at
your ankles until you Oh, no.
1:43:02
Adam Curry: The water is going
to be laughing at your ankles
1:43:05
Unknown: unfit just a foil
what's next? Will you continue
1:43:09
to destroy these events?
1:43:12
John C Dvorak: This is taking
place in a country that is
1:43:15
underwater. No. This is the
below sea level the entire
1:43:20
country.
1:43:22
Adam Curry: This is this is not
the Netherlands. It's the UK.
1:43:24
Okay, sorry. This is the UK I'm
sorry. That didn't mean to
1:43:27
confuse you. Now this is Sky
confused as the Sky News. They
1:43:30
John C Dvorak: don't speak. Sky
News is some girls crying on
1:43:32
camera.
1:43:33
Adam Curry: Some girls is a
grown woman, a grown
1:43:37
John C Dvorak: woman crying on
camera because the news people
1:43:40
aren't protesting with her.
Okay, that makes sense.
1:43:43
Unknown: And what's next? Will
you continue to disrupt events
1:43:48
or what's what's the what's?
1:43:51
What's the plan because it's
morally wrong to not take the
1:43:54
action that we know from history
has got some chance of having an
1:43:57
effect. People feel powerless.
We are the opposite. When we
1:44:00
come together, we have enormous
power. There are so many more of
1:44:03
us than there are of them.
1:44:05
Adam Curry: So and it doesn't
matter. It's morally wrong not
1:44:08
to disrupt things and you know,
these people are going to start
1:44:10
killing people. It's always
these people who wind up killing
1:44:13
politicians. It starts with a
pie in the face. Yeah. And then
1:44:16
it winds up the shooting people
these people are deranged.
1:44:19
They're very dangerous. Yeah,
they are. And they are egged on
1:44:22
you're right,
1:44:23
John C Dvorak: that's there,
there was really an uptick in
1:44:24
arms because they their life's
at stake the way they see it
1:44:27
because
1:44:28
Adam Curry: the water is lapping
at their ankles. So now we go to
1:44:31
Canada Navia Canada, where as
you know, of course, September
1:44:34
was the hottest month ever.
hottest month ever, in all of
1:44:39
existence of Canada. And and
let's just
1:44:43
John C Dvorak: start planting.
1:44:44
Adam Curry: I bring in this. I
bring in this clip because it
1:44:47
includes a quote from an actual
climate scientist, but they're
1:44:54
talking to the environment. The
Environment Canada's climate is
1:44:58
climatologist so this I think
this guy is actually a
1:45:00
government guy. But as a fun
quote in here and just you know,
1:45:05
all other climate stuff, it's
your daily no agenda dose of
1:45:10
climate nonsense, so
1:45:11
Unknown: let's cut straight to
it. Why is it so much hotter
1:45:15
this year? Not just here in
Canada but globally.
1:45:19
Well, you know, certainly the
the news is not surprising and
1:45:23
shocking at all. We have warmest
summer. Globally as ticket
1:45:27
thermometer in the planet. We
had the warmest June ever.
1:45:32
Adam Curry: You can do it
yourself, people. You can stick
1:45:34
a thermometer in the planet and
see what's going on. But make
1:45:37
sure you stick it in its butt.
Otherwise you might get a
1:45:39
misreading so stick it a stick a
thermometer in the planet. Well,
1:45:42
you know, what are you drinking?
1:45:44
John C Dvorak: Just plain old
polar unflavored natural
1:45:48
seltzer.
1:45:50
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. And
we're back to sticking a fork in
1:45:53
the fork sticking a monitor in
the planet.
1:45:56
Unknown: Well, you know
certainly the the news is not
1:45:59
surprising and shocking at all.
We had the warmest summer
1:46:03
globally a stick a thermometer
in the planet we had the warmest
1:46:06
June ever. July was the warmest
month of any month in in
1:46:11
history. And then August has
followed that and then finally
1:46:15
now and then September so this
recreates a course of pattern. I
1:46:19
think the there's a lot of sort
of residual heat in the in the
1:46:23
lakes and the land and the
oceans. The oceans are hot tubs
1:46:27
out there. And
1:46:28
Adam Curry: oceans are hot tubs.
Now this is a Jacuzzi hot tub or
1:46:34
is it that just have LED lights?
Is it cool? Or it means you can
1:46:37
just jump in the ocean and just
sit back and chill it's a hot
1:46:41
tub
1:46:41
Unknown: the oceans The oceans
are hot tubs out there Marcia
1:46:44
and and they retain that heat
longer. And so they find they
1:46:48
give it up and it just warms the
air and and so he see the
1:46:51
temperature rise because the
jacuzzi
1:46:53
Adam Curry: planet because of
it.
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: This Yeah, if
you're gonna stick a thermometer
1:46:58
in the planet Yeah, to get an
accurate temperature wouldn't
1:47:02
you stick it into into the
planet's butthole or Toronto as
1:47:07
it were, I already made sorry,
why toronto, toronto the
1:47:14
Canadian
1:47:15
Unknown: little Gianna
divorce.org And they just warms
1:47:18
the air and and so we see the
temperature rise because of it.
1:47:22
Hey, this this scorching
torrential or heat is is has
1:47:27
scorching torrential
1:47:28
Adam Curry: heat. This is this
is new language now isn't
1:47:32
torrential usually used for
rain? But he's not scorching. It
1:47:36
John C Dvorak: refers to a
torch. Yeah, have something's
1:47:39
scorching torrential heat. So we
see the
1:47:41
Unknown: temperature ratios
because of it. Hey, this
1:47:44
scorching heat is is happening
globally in Canada. And it's
1:47:49
unrelenting. Here we go to stop
that.
1:47:52
And one. Climate scientists at
Berkeley you may have read this.
1:47:56
We've said that this is
absolutely gobsmackingly
1:47:59
bananas. And that's coming from
a scientist.
1:48:02
Adam Curry: Oh no. A scientists
use the word Godsmack Well,
1:48:07
well, we're British. We're gonna
die now things in Berkeley
1:48:11
gobsmackingly bananas. Oh, no.
gloves are off.
1:48:16
Unknown: Climate scientists.
Yes.
1:48:18
John C Dvorak: Let it play
because if I may may have a
1:48:21
question about this.
1:48:23
Unknown: Berkeley you may have
read this Dave said that this is
1:48:26
absolutely Gob smackingly
bananas, and that's coming from
1:48:30
a scientist. So my question to
you then and you've already sort
1:48:34
of touched on this when people
start wondering are we in for a
1:48:37
mild or winter? Is there
anything to cool things down?
1:48:41
Well, I mean, as I say, you
could have something hit the
1:48:45
planet I suppose. But But no,
it's all this residual heat is
1:48:48
not going to give it away. So we
clearly are not canceling winter
1:48:52
in Canada. We've never done
that. But clearly it looks like
1:48:56
without particularly El Nino we
know from history tells us when
1:48:59
you have a an El Nino just an
ordinary running El Nino it
1:49:05
tends to be warmer in Canada.
1:49:06
Adam Curry: So he's
contradicting himself. What's El
1:49:09
Nino? Well, yes, it's El Nino.
So it's not climate change is El
1:49:13
Nino. But it's gobsmackingly
bananas. But
1:49:18
John C Dvorak: this is the
question I have. Okay. When the
1:49:20
scientist says this is
gobsmacking the man? Yes. Is he
1:49:26
referring to the climate
hysteria? Is that what is he
1:49:34
referring to this guy being
nuts?
1:49:36
Adam Curry: I hope so. I hope
so. Well, maybe he's referring
1:49:42
to my final story. Maybe he's
referring to this. As I said,
1:49:46
we've seen this before. The
climate people the earth people,
1:49:52
the animal people to be quite
honest. They pin for town was
1:49:58
assassinated two weeks Before
he's going to win this one
1:50:02
posthumously was, was going to
be the the Prime Minister of the
1:50:05
Netherlands. animal activist
shot him in the head coming out
1:50:09
of radio studio. It's always
these people who lose the plot.
1:50:14
They go crazy. And so now they
know. I mean, they go over the
1:50:20
edge at a certain point like
this lady, she's breaking down
1:50:22
in the studio. That lady needs
help. She needs help right away
1:50:26
because that's the kind of
person who is going to do
1:50:28
something very drastic. state of
fear people go read the book. So
1:50:36
no surprise to me that we get
stories like this from people
1:50:40
who've gone green crazy.
1:50:43
Unknown: Next tonight, a
disturbing discovery at a
1:50:45
funeral home in Fremont County,
Colorado. Police say 115 bodies
1:50:50
were found improperly stored at
the facility that returned to
1:50:53
nature Funeral Home performs so
called green burials without
1:50:57
using embalming chemicals or
metal caskets. Authorities say
1:51:01
the bodies will have to be
identified through DNA. So far,
1:51:05
no charges have been filed
against the funeral home to
1:51:08
Adam Curry: they're just
mulching these people. Oh, it's
1:51:10
green. Don't worry. You can't
just throw bodies in the and say
1:51:15
we're we're a green funeral
company.
1:51:18
John C Dvorak: It's a good
business model.
1:51:21
Adam Curry: It's cheap. Hey, I
got a great idea. And we can do
1:51:26
funeral home with it. But we can
still charge people for the
1:51:29
cast.
1:51:30
John C Dvorak: We just need a
big X we need a soft part of the
1:51:33
berth and Texas is filled with
this by the way, big excavator
1:51:38
and dig down a couple of stores
and just toss them in wood
1:51:41
chipper,
1:51:42
Adam Curry: the easy
1:51:44
John C Dvorak: ship them in
1:51:46
Adam Curry: curry Dvorak wood
chipper burials everybody come
1:51:49
on by we can do nice color do we
put food coloring in the
1:51:52
chipper? Do a rainbow LGBT chip.
Well that would cost extra we
1:51:58
can actually do a gender reveal
1:52:03
John C Dvorak: using the chip
1:52:07
Adam Curry: we have two
businesses. So and this is a
1:52:11
very climate friendly business
we have we do green burials. We
1:52:16
do it in a wood chipper which
spreads it out over of course
1:52:19
regenerative farming that's
right and but we don't have any
1:52:24
cows it's just for the land for
the for frogs we have here and
1:52:28
we can use that simultaneously
we we will color it either pink
1:52:32
or blue for your gender reveal
party and it's a nice arc I
1:52:39
think we're in business so small
1:52:41
John C Dvorak: a setup a small
stand low grandstand nearby Yes,
1:52:47
so people can watch
1:52:49
Adam Curry: and will stream it
we can stream it we have
1:52:51
John C Dvorak: a minister there
that can do last rites just in
1:52:55
front of the chipper
1:52:56
Adam Curry: you can do you can
have a wall and have the have
1:52:58
the gender reveal on one side
and you'd have the cheaper the
1:53:02
cheaper burial on the other just
coordination
1:53:06
John C Dvorak: you do to it to
say yeah, you could do two at
1:53:08
once to be interesting mixed
party.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: Well with that I'd
like to thank you for your
1:53:13
courage to in the morning to you
the man who put the sea and
1:53:15
clutch your pearls and hold your
crotch ladies and gentlemen say
1:53:18
hello to my friend on the other
end the One Only Mr. John Cena
1:53:26
John C Dvorak: Australian
recruiting the millennial ship
1:53:27
see boots on the ground feet
near subs in the water and all
1:53:30
the names and nights out there
and in
1:53:32
Adam Curry: the morning. Oh
trolls How you doing?
1:53:40
Again, were a buck 54 into a two
to six 320 263 Trolls so I think
1:53:45
we're doing okay, we're on par
for a Sunday.
1:53:47
John C Dvorak: No, we're too
under low here. But
1:53:49
Adam Curry: we're all we're more
than halfway through the show.
1:53:53
John C Dvorak: I believe 200
People would quit Oh
1:53:55
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, are you
kidding me? Well, I kicked one
1:53:59
off myself so at least at least
one of them was gone.
1:54:04
John C Dvorak: Then he's always
kicking people off on the sly
1:54:06
not
1:54:06
Adam Curry: really the only this
one guy. He was kicked out Iron
1:54:11
Hide or something. He's a guy
that you know he's the guy like
1:54:14
you don't know anything about
gay that guy? Yeah, you can't
1:54:21
talk about trans issues because
you're not gay. I'm gay. I know
1:54:24
everything you know one of those
you remember the guy he's the
1:54:29
guy yeah, guys
1:54:30
John C Dvorak: gotta go if he'd
be banned permanently get his IP
1:54:33
address.
1:54:34
Adam Curry: But it's someone
took care of it. And I don't
1:54:36
know. Now he'll be back he'll be
valued and we welcome him back
1:54:39
if you can just behave just a
little
1:54:41
John C Dvorak: guys like that
can never behave has. That's too
1:54:44
bad. Hillary knows that.
1:54:48
Adam Curry: Anyway, if you can
behave a little bit it doesn't
1:54:51
actually have to be much I mean,
the bar is very low on the troll
1:54:54
room, but you're welcome to
join. Go to troll room.io Right
1:54:59
there you can listen to the no
agenda stream is 24/7. So you
1:55:02
don't even have to log in if you
don't want. But you can if you
1:55:04
want to be in the troll room,
it's kind of fun. Because
1:55:07
there's always something going
on and no agenda stream. There's
1:55:10
always something always lots of
live shows. But we got a live
1:55:13
show coming up after today's
show. I don't know. I mean, this
1:55:16
is it's almost a 24 hour a day
live radio station. And if you
1:55:20
don't like what you hear you
just you just go in there and
1:55:22
bitch and moan at the house. You
suck. That's what the troll room
1:55:26
was for. I mean, imagine a place
where you can do that. I mean,
1:55:29
it's not Hillary won't let you
do that. Because imagine you
1:55:31
just want to say what you want
to say that would be no good.
1:55:35
That'd be no good. No can't have
that. Now, you can also use a
1:55:39
modern podcast app to be
alerted. We get the bad signal
1:55:42
when when we start this thing
up, podcast guru pod verse, you
1:55:47
can listen live on a lot of the
apps including fountain all
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these great new apps, which just
cannot be the platform no matter
1:55:53
what Canada thinks they're going
to do. You cannot get kicked off
1:55:56
with these apps. You just no
way. We've solidified that and
1:55:59
one day I shall receive a Nobel
Peace Prize for this for this
1:56:01
incredible work, which I did
none of it's a halt software
1:56:05
developers I didn't do any of it
you can of course follow us at
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no agenda social.com which I
don't use some of the signal to
1:56:17
noise quality has gone down a
bit on no agenda social people
1:56:21
seem to be now there was another
dude like posting some guy with
1:56:26
this called progressive night
slot or something very creative
1:56:30
like that. And all he does is
post screenshots from Twitter
1:56:36
now and it's like who orders
everyone to ban meat like Dude,
1:56:43
please this is a fault and in
this screenshot even had a
1:56:46
little fact checked icon next to
it said sent sent me the link to
1:56:51
the story. First of all, don't
just post screenshots. It's
1:56:55
useless. You're just doing it
for your ego it's useless to a
1:57:00
post the link and it's just
stupid story. Like, like some
1:57:05
guy who was reading Bill Gates
his book and Bill Gates in that
1:57:09
book says this and therefore who
might say this it was had
1:57:13
nothing to do with the headline.
And it wasted eight minutes of
1:57:18
value your time valuable
research time. This place is no
1:57:22
agenda socialist supposed to be
for producers. If you just want
1:57:26
to jack off go to threads, blue
sky do stuff over there.
1:57:32
John C Dvorak: Mastodon dot
social Yeah, there you go.
1:57:34
That's where you can't see
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Adam Curry: any of our stuff
because we're blocked
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everywhere. Follow Adam at no
agenda social.com Or John seed
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of where I can no agenda
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probably noticed, has no
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everything on value for value,
we are the OG of the value for
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which is great. We love that
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every one of us on the idea that
we love that every that the
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ideas caught on because it is a
model that works. I mean, it's
1:58:04
it's not it's not it's scary.
You know, you have to you have
1:58:08
to work at it. You can't just
like you got to work. Because if
1:58:13
you don't work out if you're not
consistent, if you're not
1:58:15
reminding people if you're not
telling them what you have, and
1:58:18
if you don't ask for people to
support you. They won't. People
1:58:22
are freeloaders. So that's why I
don't
1:58:24
John C Dvorak: like the idea.
Though people are lazy to be
1:58:28
guilt tripped into it. Yeah. So
yeah, up to a few people that
1:58:32
really enjoy supporting the
show. Yeah, and there's a few
1:58:36
Adam Curry: it's about 3% of the
960,000 I think that listen to
1:58:44
the show on a monthly but what
do you what noises are you
1:58:46
making? And making
1:58:47
John C Dvorak: that man I don't
know if it's 3% that enjoy
1:58:51
supporting the show? I think
maybe less than one. I mean 3%
1:58:54
support this show, but they
don't enjoy it.
1:58:58
Adam Curry: They don't enjoy
supporting us. This is
1:59:01
begrudging what they do
1:59:02
John C Dvorak: or is it Yeah,
there you go. That's the word
1:59:04
you're looking for
1:59:05
Adam Curry: grudgingly support
the show. Well, we do appreciate
1:59:08
that. The good news is you can
support us with time talent or
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treasurer and and really is the
time and talent portion that
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you're doing this for your
fellow no agenda, nation people.
1:59:20
I mean, you are you are
producing the show everybody,
1:59:22
all three of the T's are
producing the show that
1:59:25
otherwise you know, we'd have to
go and work and do do something
1:59:28
for a living. So we can you
know, thanks to the support we
1:59:32
get we can we can get by living
the American dream. But when it
1:59:36
comes to time and talent, we
have artists who really have
1:59:40
been stepping up to the plate
after I complained about the
1:59:44
excessive use of artificial
intelligence. Oh, man, that Sam
1:59:49
Sam guy from open AI, what's his
name? Sam Altman, Sam Altman
1:59:56
yelman He's on Rogan, I started
listening. Yes. Today, oh my
2:00:01
god, the first well the first
five minutes like AI is was
2:00:05
going to we're going to have a
need for UBI because of AI AI is
2:00:09
always going to take away some
jobs so
2:00:11
John C Dvorak: is an AI freak?
lol
2:00:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, but he's he
says because of AI we're gonna
2:00:16
have to have UBI universal basic
income he kept saying that well
2:00:19
we'll need some kind of UBI but
really I want everyone to have
2:00:23
one 8 billion of the UBI
proceeds of the AI proceeds for
2:00:27
their UBI it's like, what are
you waffling about man?
2:00:33
John C Dvorak: Just do your job
and shut up about the politics
2:00:35
really?
2:00:36
Adam Curry: Alright, so anyway,
I don't And he's, I never
2:00:40
expected creativity to be first
the first success for AI. Wow.
2:00:45
So successful. Come back when
you can't do when you mean your
2:00:48
AI can do five fingers instead
of good luck. Show the fix. Fix
2:00:55
that form or elongated. Fix that
and then tell me how creative it
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is. I can hear comments through
blogger pooping in his pants
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right now. He's always pooping
his pants. So no agenda, our
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generator.com is where the
artists upload, you can actually
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refresh it in real time during
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can go back after the fact you
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it or again those modern
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They use Dred Scott does our
album art puts a lot of the
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entrance in there that you
normally wouldn't see. And I
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think now it works on Apple
CarPlay and Android Auto. So
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while you're driving around,
you'll see the artwork change.
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That's something that most
podcasts don't do. They're
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boring, the same art with us,
like things are changing as the
2:01:42
topics change. And so you
probably saw Francisco
2:01:45
Scaramanga as artwork show up
for episode 15 9603 titled
2:01:50
flagger that's the European
Union new brown shirt word
2:01:54
flagger. I'm a content flagger
and get you arrested for being
2:01:58
illegal to not being kind for
hurting someone's feelings. And
2:02:05
it was a good piece. It was a
nice little chef with his
2:02:10
coffee. And he was had a kind of
he's kind of like a like a
2:02:14
worried look on his face and he
has a sign that says now
2:02:17
swapping staff for migrants and
it went perfectly well with the
2:02:22
with our talk about about the
migration replacement.
2:02:27
John C Dvorak: I like to cross
eyes. See that
2:02:29
Adam Curry: touch he does and
obviously, there were some I
2:02:32
kind of what we think we both
like Nico's Symes in the
2:02:34
morning. The cubist thing at
least I liked it. You like that
2:02:40
John C Dvorak: one? And kind of
go back here.
2:02:42
Adam Curry: Let me look like a
lot of pink. And I liked it. I
2:02:45
thought it was good. Yeah, it
was the yellow background. I
2:02:51
remember I liked it. So it's
like, second row right
2:02:56
underneath it right underneath
the great staff swap. Right
2:03:01
underneath it. Are you do you
even have a browser open?
2:03:03
John C Dvorak: And I'm gonna get
the browser up.
2:03:06
Adam Curry: Are you even on the
show?
2:03:07
John C Dvorak: Right. Oh, that
thing in the morning. I didn't
2:03:11
dislike it.
2:03:12
Adam Curry: I'd like I thought
it was clean. I
2:03:13
John C Dvorak: don't remember
you even mentioning it during
2:03:15
the discussion.
2:03:16
Adam Curry: So you don't even
listen to me anymore. I listened
2:03:18
to we both there was also an e
cosine. We both like the
2:03:23
approved flagger but it wasn't
that great. It was okay. Yeah,
2:03:27
we've
2:03:27
John C Dvorak: had similar
things. It also looks like one
2:03:29
of our mugs.
2:03:30
Adam Curry: You like the dame
Kenny been eaten alive with a
2:03:33
bedbug? munching on the toe? The
toe? That was close second. I
2:03:38
liked the one underneath it.
Correct to record? The Olympics.
2:03:43
Yeah, I liked that one. was a
nice piece. I like that because
2:03:46
I know it would pop with a white
background. And I like kind of
2:03:49
Yeah,
2:03:50
John C Dvorak: that would look
good on though. Yes. I would
2:03:53
like NGO air which you hated the
NGO air with it. Because you
2:03:57
didn't recognize the Corvette?
No, I
2:03:58
Adam Curry: said it was a court.
Yes, it why is the Corvette in
2:04:01
there? I recognize that as a
Corvette. I understand why it
2:04:04
was as why was a Corvette?
2:04:06
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it
was also Biden's Corvette. By
2:04:09
the way. I have
2:04:10
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
bedbugs report since this is the
2:04:12
donation segment. Let's do it
right now. All right, here's
2:04:15
what you're missing about
bedbugs in France. There's very
2:04:18
few people who knew more about
bedbugs than me. Is this a great
2:04:22
podcast or was our guy I have a
business that helps landlords
2:04:26
hotels, dorms, retirement
communities, etc. Monitor for
2:04:29
infesting pets pests such as
roaches and bedbugs. Early
2:04:34
detection is key and saving
hassle costs and rely and
2:04:37
liability regarding these pests.
So here's what you're missing.
2:04:41
Paris is not exclusive to this
problem. Yes, we know ASA in
2:04:44
Paris. It's one in eight
residences in New York City.
2:04:48
Almost one in 11 residences is
hit with bedbugs just this past
2:04:51
year. In the US we nearly
eradicated bedbugs back in the
2:04:56
50s with excessive use of DDT,
which was banned The 1972 And I
2:05:02
think you and I are both on the
same page that the DDT ban was
2:05:05
stupid. And people still to this
day believe that that cat causes
2:05:09
cancer. Would you say that we
are on the same page about that?
2:05:13
John C Dvorak: Kind of but they
did. I think there's the, at
2:05:17
least for me the jury's out on
whether it caused the a certain
2:05:22
birds to the pellet shells, the
Pelican or Pelican, yeah,
2:05:26
Adam Curry: that to get rid of
it because of the pelican. And
2:05:28
you know, Tina ran behind the
DDT truck when she was a kid
2:05:31
getting all all dusted up and
she's still fine.
2:05:36
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a
guy in San Jose, who is a
2:05:38
professor, I think, says he ate
it. drank it,
2:05:41
Adam Curry: drank it, he ate it.
Yeah, exactly. In the US, we
2:05:46
still have easy access to
pesticides that are effective in
2:05:48
fighting back bedbugs and no
agenda pro tip pro tip. Here we
2:05:52
go. The pesticide you want to
get rid of bedbugs is called
2:05:56
Crossfire and can be picked up
in nearly any hardware store
2:06:00
over the counter. Even walmart
or amazon. It's the same
2:06:04
pesticide the pros use. There's
a tip crossfire
2:06:08
John C Dvorak: that you heard of
this product. I've heard a
2:06:10
crossfire hurricane. Yeah,
2:06:12
Adam Curry: well now you know.
In France, EU rules banned such
2:06:16
pesticides. EU countries do not
have the same access to
2:06:20
effective pesticides we have
here. There's a very lucrative
2:06:23
black market smuggling past the
pesticides available off the
2:06:26
shelf from Home Depot into these
countries. Wow. Another curry
2:06:32
DEVAR Consulting Group business
exit strategy. EU rules live the
2:06:37
only effective solution for
bedbugs to be heat treatments.
2:06:41
Heating entire buildings up to
118 degrees Fahrenheit for 90
2:06:46
minutes kills bed bugs and their
eggs. This is very expensive and
2:06:51
sometimes impractical to do.
Especially with old buildings.
2:06:54
The high density living and
aggressive movement of bedbugs
2:06:57
just means it's a matter of time
before reinfestation occurs
2:07:00
after heat treatment. heat
treatments offer no residual
2:07:03
protection, and so they just
move right back in. bedbugs are
2:07:06
not new to Paris in 2020.
Benjamin Greevil ran for mayor
2:07:10
under the IDEA to rid Paris of
bedbugs in 100 days and then
2:07:14
resign. Well, that's not Melton,
a free pony. He likely would
2:07:19
have won if it wasn't for a
pesky sex tape scandal that
2:07:22
ruined his run. You go future
stories about people. Future
2:07:28
stories about EU countries will
involve will involve
2:07:31
cockroaches, mice and rats, as
poison baits for these pests
2:07:35
have also been banned in the EU.
Ha.
2:07:40
John C Dvorak: So here's the
scenario. The rats, the
2:07:43
cockroaches and the and the mice
all be because of climate
2:07:47
change.
2:07:47
Adam Curry: You bet. I said it
again tonight.
2:07:51
John C Dvorak: You said you
better you better believe in
2:07:52
saying you bet a lot better
believe it better believe it.
2:07:56
Yes. I'm gonna change you judge
you're putting your mind instead
2:07:59
of saying you bet say yep, yep.
Yep.
2:08:03
Adam Curry: That's not annoying.
Yep, yep. Yep. Yep, yep, yep,
2:08:08
givers. Okay, you got it. I'll
do that. We'll see how long it
2:08:11
is before you get on my butt
about that. So back to the
2:08:16
artwork. Thank you very much
producer good work. That's it.
2:08:19
That's mean Crossfire, we
learned something here. To us. I
2:08:24
don't think there was a
2:08:25
John C Dvorak: you know, if you
don't listen to the no agenda,
2:08:26
if you don't get something you
learn about something pragmatic
2:08:31
from every no agenda show.
You're not listening carefully.
2:08:35
Yeah,
2:08:36
Adam Curry: you probably should
just go away. Probably shouldn't
2:08:40
be listening.
2:08:42
John C Dvorak: Just donate and
go away.
2:08:45
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
Francisco. Scaramanga thank you
2:08:47
to all of the no agenda artists
who diligently supported us with
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their time and their talent. All
of it, of course, is
2:08:54
appreciated. We're happy to
provide critique when possible,
2:08:58
but we also use a lot of these
for different things. As I said,
2:09:01
you can find them in the chapter
art more often than not, thanks
2:09:04
to the work of Dred Scott and
these modern podcast apps. Now
2:09:07
we go to the treasure portion.
We'd love to thank our executive
2:09:10
and Associate Executive
producers who come in with above
2:09:13
200 or respectfully $300 for
each episode. This really is
2:09:17
what makes the show we had a
special special number today as
2:09:21
numerology matters and no agenda
nation. 1597 is a Fibonacci
2:09:26
number. It's the top of the
curve of the of the shell. I
2:09:30
guess what exactly? Maybe you
can explain it better than I can
2:09:33
since you I can't explain it.
You ran the promotion.
2:09:36
John C Dvorak: Well, yes, the
woman who is listed here Laura
2:09:40
moody, she's now a dame had to
drag you down because you put
2:09:46
the Fibonacci numbers into a
sheet you get the golden ratio
2:09:51
comes around because of this
Fibonacci numbers no matter
2:09:54
which numbers you use in the
sequence. And of course, the
2:09:58
Fibonacci numbers where you add
A lot of you is a series of
2:10:01
numbers starting with zero and
you add the next number to this
2:10:07
first numbers. Zero plus one is
one that so the next Fibonacci
2:10:11
numbers one and then the end you
add one one, you get two that's
2:10:15
22 and one you get three that's
the Fibonacci number. Two and
2:10:18
three and five, and five, and
three is eight and eight goes on
2:10:23
and on and on until you get to
these huge numbers which we have
2:10:27
today, which is Fibonacci number
1597. And that won't be another
2:10:32
one until I think then the 2000
Somethings will be dead. Well,
2:10:37
would the show be done the show
will be done by should be the
2:10:40
last Fibonacci
2:10:41
Adam Curry: the last Fibonacci
Fibonacci number show no sad to
2:10:44
see you go Fibonacci. So we
celebrate the Baron of
2:10:48
backwardation Winter Park,
Florida who I think should get a
2:10:51
special Fibonacci title because
the Baron of Fibonacci club Yep,
2:10:56
Fibonacci club came in with 1597
exactly the show number donation
2:11:04
and the Fibonacci number club in
the morning he says from barren
2:11:07
backwardation, backwardation,
backwardation of contango show
2:11:12
number donation this should also
trigger a title change Oh, it's
2:11:14
even better. I would like to be
known as the Duke of Central
2:11:17
Florida. Granted, thanks to you
guys and the great producers you
2:11:21
have supporting the show. We
thank you so much Baron, and
2:11:25
enjoy this special Fibonacci
will be a Fibonacci Duke. Very
2:11:29
special, never never happening
in double jeopardy. I have no
2:11:33
never be
2:11:34
John C Dvorak: back to the old
Fibonacci numbers. Laura Moody's
2:11:37
next and she's in Buckley,
Washington. She's the one who
2:11:39
drew the little drawing that was
in the newsletter that showed
2:11:42
the golden ratio. And she came
in with $1,123.58 is the note no
2:11:49
dig came in to show before but
she wanted to say no, no, no, I
2:11:51
want to be on that Fibonacci
show. Okay, so she has Thank
2:11:54
you. I love the show. Keep
covering Africa. Yeah, we'll do
2:11:58
that. No, no problem. We'll do
it. No problemo. When I heard
2:12:01
about the special numbers for
donations I thought about making
2:12:04
a Fibonacci donation using the
first number in the series. I'd
2:12:08
like to be an executive producer
and I get knighted the next time
2:12:11
the show number is a Fibonacci
number. That will never happen.
2:12:14
If I miss show 1597 I have to
wait to show 2584 That would be
2:12:19
the next 1000 shows from now. So
I try to get get this point in
2:12:25
time I'd like to my title be
damned Laura of the golden mean
2:12:29
you guys so de douching
2:12:32
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:12:34
John C Dvorak: regards Laura
moody.
2:12:36
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
for your great idea. Thanks for
2:12:38
alerting us that we appreciate
it.
2:12:41
John C Dvorak: As a matter of
fact, if she hadn't had done
2:12:43
that to Fibonacci number would
have come and gone without us
2:12:47
even knowing
2:12:48
Adam Curry: we would have been
very sad about that. Very sad
2:12:51
because you know people always
Hey, man, you missed a
2:12:53
compliment they know after
2:12:55
John C Dvorak: the fact I can't
believe you missed the
2:12:57
Fibonacci.
2:13:00
Adam Curry: That's the kind of
stuff we love hearing. Jan
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demand also known as young to
mum, Indigo faina bell here,
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another donation today and
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well, overnight hood, please
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will be 50 years old tomorrow,
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the ninth of October. Done.
We've been together for 15 years
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and we never had a fight. I'd
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amygdala is already so small she
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just dozes off most types.
Please Dame her Dame Gennaro
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she would love some Pinot Noir
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and Papademos poppadoms
poppadoms what a poppadoms I
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don't know poppadoms
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John C Dvorak: something
probably some Sri Lankan
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specialties may guess
2:13:58
Adam Curry: I just got to put
the order in homeless I can can
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we get it Guys can you get the
PAP at home see you poppadoms
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are on the way thanks for all
you do love your show no jingles
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John C Dvorak: as well as an F
35 Karma along with legal karma
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as we have found We had enough
about something. God bless you
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both for what you do cheers
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Adam Curry: now you got it.
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Unknown: You've got karma
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Adam Curry: Thank you, sir.
infinitas Todd Hedeman Esmond.
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He's a man hasn't been new hope
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disappoints, deduce me, please.
You've been de deuced and that's
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because this is my first
donation since my monthly
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donations inexplicably stopped
two and a half years ago. Yeah,
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PayPal does that from time to
time. So just don't just
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decouple you from us. Yeah, you
got to check Yeah, you do have
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to check regularly because that
PayPal does it I don't know if
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John C Dvorak: you if your
credit card changes or the date
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changes on your credit card or
you get a new one every couple
2:15:51
of years you will not be
donating to us anymore. You have
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to go read stablished
connections that
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Adam Curry: would take a trigger
set a new credit I think most of
2:15:59
is triggered by credit card
changes. Oh, that makes sense. I
2:16:01
guess Yeah. Too bad.
2:16:05
John C Dvorak: And we haven't
set up so they don't try it you
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know a lot of these guys who are
scammers. He wants you to
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subscribe to something and then
your credit card change they'll
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they'll find your new number and
they will lock you in so you can
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they just harmless impossible to
get off of it. No, we have
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automatic disconnect.
2:16:25
Adam Curry: Oh, that's kind of
good, I
2:16:26
John C Dvorak: guess. Well, it's
good for the people that are
2:16:30
donating not good for us. I
mean, it's good for us if they
2:16:34
go back and notice Yeah, Ed Code
is up next by the way he's in
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Summit New Jersey 33334 He's got
no note no nothing. So he gets a
2:16:42
double up karma. Sure does.
2:16:45
Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: Jodi Atkinson in
Park City Utah 333 to 33 ATM
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John I'm just donation is
honored my wonderful dog Callie
2:16:58
ah another dog donation. Now Oh,
Kelly would have been seven on
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October 9. I had to put Callie
to sleep on August 23. As my
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sister Jill price mentioned in a
previous donation. Oh, okay.
2:17:11
Callie was like my third child
and we went through a lot
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together. We were there for each
other during the COVID Insanity
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and the many health issues she
struggled with over the last
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three years including epilepsy
and three hip surgeries. By the
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way, I heard from our our vet
he's he's a real vet like does
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cows and stuff. He says there's
monoclonal antibodies now that
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can they can fix that on cats
and dogs that were the hips go
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on a week.
2:17:38
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's crazy.
I think they are.
2:17:41
Adam Curry: We listen to you.
Our friends in the car hiking
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cross country skiing during her
recoveries. Now she's gone. I'm
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an empty nester as my youngest
human resource is a freshman in
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college. Thankfully, I have you
both to help me through this
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difficult time. And a heart
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seat at the roundtable please
does meet dame of the skiing
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dogs. I would like a nice grass
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Opus One You bet. Got some can
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ribeye also some jobs karma for
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recently graduated from college
thank you for your courage
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friends, cheers to you and
cheers to you on a second
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where's my jobs? Here's the jobs
karma,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's karma.
2:18:34
John C Dvorak: Now we have a
couple of people that had no
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notes and Cloney starting with
via account sir crash EMT or
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buddy and Holly Springs, North
Carolina 33333. So give him a
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double up karma is gone and
right.
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Unknown: Karma right after him
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John C Dvorak: is Ruben a
Schwebel Schwebel in Jerusalem,
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Illinois at three three give him
a double sandwich so he has a
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reuben sandwich because Dame G
money in Dallas Texas really
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33333 and all she says is the
note of the day Viva no agenda.
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Viva no
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Adam Curry: agenda indeed. Thank
you James. David G money Jayco
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colors and Jefferson Iowa 333 in
the morning to Yeah, thank you
2:19:30
for what you do. I'd like to
call out jar Jared Barr who hit
2:19:34
me in the mouth and Levi Park as
douchebags. Oh, okay, here's
2:19:37
Jared. And here's Levi. Not sure
if they've ever donated before.
2:19:45
Well, I hope you're right
because you know, douche bagging
2:19:47
someone who's donated as a
severe fence. I have not heard
2:19:51
their names called since I
started listening short after
2:19:53
the January. He says January 8
insurrection. This is an
2:19:58
insurrection I'm not important.
It was it was worse than Pearl
2:20:03
Harbor. What I don't remember
the date. I do listen for the
2:20:06
bonus content during this time
as everyone should indeed, and
2:20:10
we had a good bedbugs tip that
most people who didn't love it
2:20:13
didn't listen. They didn't get
it. Let me check. Let me check.
2:20:18
Oh, about 400 people dropped off
well, bedbugs too. You
2:20:25
John C Dvorak: really missed
out.
2:20:26
Adam Curry: This will be a new
reading. Hey, bedbugs to you,
2:20:29
bro. You didn't You didn't hear
and don't tell him. Please don't
2:20:32
tell me when the secret how to
do it either. Kind of get rid of
2:20:35
him. Ah. I would appreciate some
small business commerce, my new
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business ventures and buying a
building for my jujitsu gym. No
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Coast Jefferson located in
Jefferson, Iowa. For jingles. I
2:20:47
would like respect, and I would
like some Shut up slave. You got
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ESPN IICT slave and he says
thank you for your courage and
2:20:59
thank you very much Jacob.
2:21:01
John C Dvorak: Johnny. Oh,
Johnny. Oh, and East Dubuque.
2:21:05
Illinois in the Morning guys
going to keep this note short.
2:21:09
Taylor Swift let me know who
storms out of the troll room
2:21:16
Adam Curry: no rage quit yet.
2:21:19
John C Dvorak: The priority
gone? Taylor's with a second.
2:21:27
Now good Sir Michael. He's in
Snohomish, Washington that
2:21:31
little town. Yeah, I'm looking
for shingles. He was buying a
2:21:34
whole load felt something hot on
my legs and yet karma that was
2:21:38
hurting shingles. In the last
show. Please send travel karma
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for clear mountain passes as my
family and I wrap up a six week
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tour of the Mountain West. Sir
Michael Black Knight of the
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dudes named Ben in Snohomish.
You got it. I'm gonna give you
2:21:54
the whole load did I just felt
something hot on my legs got
2:22:02
worse.
2:22:05
Adam Curry: I want to play that
again. I just felt something hot
2:22:09
on my legs a great ISO dynamite.
Darius Gandhi, Santa Monica,
2:22:16
California 333. And dairy says
in the morning to the amazing
2:22:20
women Tina and Mimi who support
alongside the great men, Adam
2:22:23
and John. Well, how about that?
Don't worry, they don't listen
2:22:27
to the donation segment for the
show.
2:22:31
John C Dvorak: I will say this
Mimi groused at me she says
2:22:34
you're gonna listen to the show.
I'm gonna listen to the show. So
2:22:37
you better plug the book.
2:22:39
Adam Curry: Oh, plug the book.
2:22:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no way I
did too many eggs.com and go get
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a free copies a PDF file and you
can also buy giant a big giant
2:22:48
book 800 pages. It's a great
gift.
2:22:52
Adam Curry: Then, of course Tina
does listen so I'm going to plug
2:22:55
her podcast which I am just the
producer Korean the keeper.com
2:22:59
There you go. We've done our
duties. I made a personal pact
2:23:03
to myself and JCD to keep my
donations quiet allowing us to
2:23:06
keep the show moving swiftly.
But sometimes I have to chime in
2:23:09
chime in. And our episode 1596
Adams NGO deep dive was nothing
2:23:14
short of spectacular. I got
chills. Killer. It was like
2:23:24
watching a master puzzle solver
at work. You got a corner. I can
2:23:32
fit this piece.
2:23:33
John C Dvorak: I actually looks
like a piece of the sky is
2:23:37
exactly
2:23:37
Adam Curry: like a piece of the
sky. I absolutely love when Adam
2:23:40
does deep dives like this. It's
like he's weaving together all
2:23:43
the pieces of a mystery and
solving it all right in front of
2:23:45
you in a succinct and eloquent
way. Truly a job well done. Well
2:23:49
that's very kind of you to say
thank
2:23:50
John C Dvorak: you very much. If
it's worth three or 33 bucks,
2:23:53
it's definitely that's quite the
puzzle. Laura Mullen Meanwhile,
2:23:57
in Glenwood city, Wisconsin
319 40. ITM 5097 times two
2:24:05
equals 3194. Thus my first
donation of 319 dot 40 is
2:24:10
complete. Just request and
prosper, requesting prosperous
2:24:16
life karma for all thank you for
your courage.
2:24:19
Adam Curry: Very good, great
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Laura. And coming you from send
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you are fabulous. And because
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Duchess of Japan and all the
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disputed islands in the Japan
Sea. And in case I hadn't
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mentioned it. The keeper Tina
and I we are planning on Tokyo
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for next year, which was our
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say not Tokyo. Our original plan
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course it's shut down for many
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the in the Japan's
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John C Dvorak: Corki is up and
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Corky here ITM I couldn't resist
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Save some jobs, jobs, jobs,
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John C Dvorak: Isaac Contreras
in Chula Vista, California
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$200.33 aka Dr. Ai aka devotes a
shameless plug for my very own
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to do a bluesy harmonica lick
for me to sample Ooh much oh let
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me get the
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end of show mixers for today. So
thank you, Isaac. Yeah, and here
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comes your lick
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John C Dvorak: sir mannequin
really
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could have been better?
2:27:19
Adam Curry: I think it's pretty
good. William doggy, doggy I
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think Bristol Ville, Ohio 200.
We're getting towards the end
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here. Associate Executive
Producer ship says Hi, John
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anonymous donation of 200 to
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time for my 45th birthday on
October 10. How could it get any
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better? If you could nightmare
Sir William of Northeast Ohio.
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And the regular fare at the
round table is fine to meet Of
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course. And could I get a
birthday for my biscuits for my
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birthday and an R two d two
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Do
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Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday? Of
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course we can do you've got
karma.
2:28:00
John C Dvorak: San Antonio,
Madrid, Madrid, Spain or sir
2:28:04
Antonio, San Antonio, San
Antonio from Madrid. A biscuit
2:28:08
for my 65th birthday on October
9, the most popular request is a
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biscuit for my birthday, and
happy retirement karma. For me,
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Unknown: they always give me
this good on my birthday. You've
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got karma.
2:28:22
Adam Curry: Sir Antonio, where
were you when we were in
2:28:25
Barcelona. We weren't here. But
by the way, Madrid is where all
2:28:27
the i All the elites go to
Madrid, all the elites of the
2:28:30
world. The Kings, the queens,
particularly the princess and
2:28:33
the princess. They all have cool
condos in Madrid. A little known
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fact, Madrid.
2:28:40
John C Dvorak: Madrid is where
the elites hang out. Have a
2:28:41
great museum.
2:28:43
Adam Curry: Sir Jimmy James
almost here at the end here from
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Oklahoma City. $200 says God
bless sir Jimmy James of the
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South Central flatlands. God
bless to you jurists are Jimmy
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James Thank you very much.
2:28:52
John C Dvorak: And finally Linda
LAPACK and was always at the
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Adam Curry: And today we'll give
her a TPP jobs, jobs, jobs,
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jobs. Karma and that wraps up
our Executive Associate
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John is gonna take us through
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the 50s We got some meetups we
got some Knights and Dames cool
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stuff on the way.
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John C Dvorak: Sir Suge starts
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Adam Curry: They'll be the
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like a 10 10% off on Fibonacci
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you. Brian Schmidt in Canton
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night went to deeds 970 And he
does say something here I want
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to read you miss something
that's in the show Dope Sick Big
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Pharma use the term breakthrough
pain to justify upping dosage.
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They brought it back with COVID
breakthrough.
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Adam Curry: Good point. Good
catch. Good catch. Breakthrough
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breakthrough infection. You're
right.
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meet up in Parlin. New Jersey
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for the New Jersey central New
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in boring Oregon 11235 needs
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the end Jeffrey proc in
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Adams and bold secure Alabama.
I'm not sure how you pronounce
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it but he's got a birthday
coming up and he donated $82
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Kevin McLaughlin is on the list
of course at 808. Save the
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snuggle puppies Breast Cancer
Awareness Month.
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Adam Curry: Snuggle puppies.
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John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin De
Archduke of Luna lover of
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he's going to be a night
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SIR lab rat of connet Kenosha,
my former hometown for the
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roundtable like brandy, old
fashions, Brandy old fashions
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and cringle with some jobs
coming to at the end, Darren
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Unknown: You've been D deuced
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insurance, Grayson insurance in
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McLaughlin is back from Concord,
North Carolina 606 This time,
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save the party pillows. So he's
now gone from lint naming melons
2:32:41
to naming pillows. Acronym are
not acronyms but there's a word
2:32:45
for that. One thing you call
something something else a
2:32:49
Adam Curry: synonym for boobs or
boobs synonyms.
2:32:53
John C Dvorak: It's not a
synonym. Exactly. There's a word
2:32:55
somebody in that in the troll
room knows what I was saying.
2:32:57
isms euphemisms, that's what
he's doing. Thank you. So Ryan
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Smith in Raleigh, North Carolina
606. He mentioned the tiger
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melon David Weicker in
Jacksonville, Florida. 5510
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$51 Brian Richardson in Aurora,
Illinois $50.69 which gives us
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right back to the $50 donors and
I just go name and location
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Philip Kusum offski in Austin
you miss you
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Adam Curry: miss you miss David
wicker. I just want you to
2:33:36
number 42 Deaf is weaker?
2:33:39
John C Dvorak: No I did rich a
David worker Jackson. I think
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Jacksonville Florida 5510. But
do you see his note? Yeah, but
2:33:45
he that that note doesn't get
read in under two hundreds.
2:33:50
Because then it's is is inviting
bargain basement reads. Okay. If
2:33:56
he put it at the beginning, I'd
have no choice. I see what
2:33:59
you're saying. Got it. Like
Grayson insurance in Aurora,
2:34:03
Colorado. What am I supposed to
do?
2:34:04
Adam Curry: I gotcha. I gotcha.
Gotcha.
2:34:07
John C Dvorak: So he's got to up
his game. Brian Richardson in
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Aurora, Illinois, Philip coos
Malinowski in Austin, Texas Ryan
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tear and then in North
Providence, Rhode Island,
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and to hatch a B to hatch a P
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that's up there on the
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Keaney in Lincoln, New
Hampshire. Robertson home in
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Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek
in Memphis, Tennessee. Zippered
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Adam Curry: Yep. Follow MA in
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John C Dvorak: Yep. Fulham off
road. Yvonne MA in vasana Steven
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Kidwell in Dover, Delaware, Sir
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George Wuxia to haven't heard
from him for a while. How's he
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doing in La vernia, Texas,
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much for supporting the no
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without any asking some jobs
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everybody. So here's the list
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Tomorrow Happy birthday in
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Turning 65 retiring tomorrow and
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Adam Curry: Oh, that is a big
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Couple of donations for the Toms
River meetup they had a good
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time they sent a report it was
very muffled I did some
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filtering.
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Unknown: This is Sir Daniels
coming at you from the Garden
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State distillery. We drink and
we know things. This is Sir
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nobody of the 3d printer
enjoying drinking and plastic a
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log the bugs Did you bark from
Toms River? I'm drinking a lot
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of bugs right now I had about
three or four bugs. This is
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producer Joseph, and we are here
in the bowels of the distillery
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having lots of fun. This is
karaoke from freehold and I'm
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figuring out how I'm preparing
for the zombie apocalypse after
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the abs. Who you John that I'm
following up on that glad to see
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that you to survive the natto 5g
activation Apocalypse Oh, hi TM
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John and Adam connection is
protection. I'm watching this
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moose in the corner passing
along piece outs there's not
2:40:41
much to say so I was saying hi.
In the morning.
2:40:45
Adam Curry: I hear some real
jerk I heard some real Jersey
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girls in there always that
obviously sounds great love
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that. Boston had their their
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Unknown: And this is Nathan Lee.
I
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think I'm a Baronet of the first
horrors of Armageddon.
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We're here at Castle Island at
the September 16. No agenda
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Boston Red 33 Red 33 meetup in
between some beautiful Celtic
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Irish music here.
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Celtic Irish being redundant.
2:41:17
It's not necessarily a no. Okay.
No, it's not because you could
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have Scottish Celtic music as
well. Alright. And that's our
2:41:23
meet up report. Thank you for
your courage.
2:41:25
Adam Curry: Yes. Thank you very
much for your courage. Look at
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that. Look at that. Oops. They
left everything on for me. I'm
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beautiful. So there's only one
meetup that happens we do now
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and the next show which is the
October 12 Mile High meetup 630.
2:41:40
That's at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, sir are
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organizing for you. And in the
rest of this month we got Palmer
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Alaska on deck we still have the
shopping center or at least go
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Jalisco and Mexico. What else we
got Houston on the list we got
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in Indy on the 15th to get
Albany California on the 21st
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John, John C. Dvorak will be
appearing will live and in
2:42:02
person signing autographs and
taking selfies on October 21 at
2:42:07
the Albany California meetup
find all of these meetups listed
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at no agenda meetups.com We've
got a lot of see them all the
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way through December because you
can put them on as long as you
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want as you want. And you know
people can go and start planning
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their lives around them which
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easy always like a party
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Unknown: with all day you be
triggered
2:42:53
Adam Curry: Bom Bom is like
alright, you start today with
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the ISOs because I'm always
starting.
2:42:59
John C Dvorak: I always start,
but okay, boom. Let's do this
2:43:03
one. I yay
2:43:11
Okay, let's try this one kick.
2:43:13
Unknown: Okay, got an extra
kick.
2:43:18
John C Dvorak: And then last one
is sexism.
2:43:20
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.
2:43:23
Adam Curry: That's pretty good.
I don't know if I can compete. I
2:43:25
do have a couple. Hi, climactic
moment. Is that this one
2:43:33
Unknown: wonderful stew.
2:43:38
John C Dvorak: funny, silly. You
need to leave
2:43:41
Adam Curry: like that one. I
couldn't hear it. Okay, and then
2:43:44
this you know, we always have
the classic glow the planet you
2:43:48
gotta have a nice seed man in
there. Like to sexism when
2:43:53
better when we say well, you did
laugh at the wonderful stew
2:43:57
Yeah, but
2:43:57
John C Dvorak: because it's so
stupid.
2:43:59
Adam Curry: Well that's that's
that's good. I couldn't there's
2:44:01
John C Dvorak: muffled is muddy.
2:44:02
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.
2:44:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you when
2:44:07
John C Dvorak: I think you is
that
2:44:10
Unknown: let me listen again.
This is blatant sexism. I don't
2:44:15
know. To MEGAN Oh, Megan Kelly.
Yeah
2:44:22
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
about all you need to hear about
2:44:24
the podcast
2:44:30
John C Dvorak: talking about
blatant sexism I want to play a
2:44:32
couple of these this is the you
know from the from the various
2:44:35
Senate hearings. Oh god okay.
They're always bringing up these
2:44:39
days they bring some divided
administration brings up to
2:44:42
crack most crackpot judges to
get approval. So you have every
2:44:49
you know showboating Republican
who's got any clue? Of course,
2:44:53
as you count as one does, yes,
as one does. And you got the two
2:44:57
main guys the best of the group
is Kennedy The
2:45:01
Adam Curry: Kennedys in a league
of his own. I mean, it's pretty
2:45:04
John C Dvorak: close to it. But
I think Ted Cruz also comes up
2:45:06
with some good stuff. But so I
have two, three clips from this
2:45:10
one guy, this characters named
Mustafa. They get their own
2:45:16
sheet. Kushi was stuff. Mighty
handbag, cash you buy
2:45:22
Adam Curry: stuff you buy? Yeah,
I gotcha. Yeah. So
2:45:25
John C Dvorak: let's go with
Kennedy versus cashew by mix
2:45:28
one.
2:45:32
Unknown: Chairman, Judge cashify
I'm looking at an order you've
2:45:38
issued as a magistrate judge
here requiring the use of
2:45:45
pronouns in your court. I'm
already laughing. Do you require
2:45:52
the use of pronouns the
declaration of one's pronouns in
2:45:55
your court?
2:45:57
Senator that may be referring to
perhaps a trial management order
2:46:00
or a scheduling order of of some
kind. Yeah.
2:46:04
It's a statement you've issued,
here it is.
2:46:11
It's an invitation for people to
to identify their pronouns and
2:46:17
or their honorifics.
2:46:19
honorifics, your requirement
that you issued to all people in
2:46:23
your court. You say, quote, when
you introduce yourself in a
2:46:27
meeting, you should say, My name
is Judge bIack. And my pronouns
2:46:32
are blank. And right,
2:46:35
Senator, those were not
requirements or rules. Those
2:46:37
were suggestions and suggestion
that those were suggestions and
2:46:41
invitations for people to use.
And
2:46:42
you also in your directive, you
say, quote, I'd like counsel to
2:46:47
introduce themselves giving your
full name and your honorific,
2:46:52
such as ms and ms. Period, MCs,
or Mr. Not Ms. And if your
2:46:57
client won't be making an
appearance, I asked you to
2:47:00
please introduce them to the
court by giving me their full
2:47:03
name and their honorifics such
as ms and ms. Period MCs are Mr.
2:47:09
And quo. Is that right?
2:47:12
Senator is not a directive.
Again. It's an invitation for
2:47:15
people to introduce themselves.
2:47:17
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Honor is
honorifics. A thing I've never
2:47:21
heard of honorific.
2:47:22
John C Dvorak: That's the
latest. That's you. We've
2:47:24
noticed this in the clips we get
from kick Tech where people call
2:47:26
themselves MCs.
2:47:28
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, but what
is an honorific?
2:47:31
John C Dvorak: That's it like
mister missus MCs.
2:47:33
Adam Curry: This is a show title
is what it is. honorific
2:47:36
honorifics. honorifics. Yeah,
2:47:38
John C Dvorak: I think so. And
he goes on part two, where he
2:47:41
goes off to the guy even harder.
2:47:43
Unknown: All right, I'm looking
at an article and from the
2:47:49
Oregon State Bar bulletin from
May of 2021. And I want to I
2:47:57
want to read one of your quotes.
Quote, we have to set aside
2:48:05
conventional ideas of proof that
may satisfy me say that again,
2:48:12
we have to set aside
conventional ideas of proof you
2:48:16
said, when we are dealing with
the personal and interpersonal
2:48:20
work of equity division and
inclusion,
2:48:24
Adam Curry: division, and
actually
2:48:26
John C Dvorak: division. I know
you said that. You gotta wonder
2:48:29
if he said it on purpose or not.
This guy's you never know what
2:48:32
that guy?
2:48:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I'm just
what is this? Why is he is he
2:48:36
hearing this judge? I mean, why
is he doing this? Why is this
2:48:38
judge being grilled by the
2:48:40
John C Dvorak: because the judge
is being set up to be one of the
2:48:43
federal judges, oh, big systems
class guy, that the Biden people
2:48:48
bring up how beautiful
2:48:50
Unknown: as a judge, I can
appreciate the challenge of
2:48:53
employing a different mode for
understanding truth than that
2:48:57
which most lawyers are
accustomed to in our work and
2:49:01
quote, did you write that?
2:49:04
That is a quote from that that
article.
2:49:09
So one more dealing with equity,
diversity and inclusion, we
2:49:15
should set aside conventional
ideas of proof. Is that right?
2:49:21
In the larger context of
interpersonal and personal
2:49:24
relationships, the idea of being
able to have a conversation with
2:49:29
somebody
2:49:30
Yeah, but she didn't talk about
conversation. He said proof
2:49:34
it's in the context of having a
conversation with somebody about
2:49:38
the issue of their background or
experience
2:49:40
when the issue is equity
diversity or inclusion, we
2:49:45
should have a different set of
proof is that right?
2:49:48
When it comes to the the, the
space in which people have
2:49:53
interpersonal relationships with
with one another, the idea of
2:49:56
respecting and dignifying each
other with their experiences is
2:50:00
An important part.
2:50:01
So all issues have one set of
proof, which has been handed
2:50:06
down by our state supreme
courts, or US Supreme Court,
2:50:10
except you think we ought to
have a different set of proof
2:50:12
when Equity Diversity and
Inclusion are at issue. Is that
2:50:16
right?
2:50:16
In all of my years on the bench?
Senator, I have applied the law,
2:50:22
the rules of evidence, the case
precedent,
2:50:24
I mean, move on.
2:50:26
Adam Curry: Wow. So with all
these people just virtue
2:50:28
signaling Cox?
2:50:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's a
bunch of them and they keep
2:50:32
bringing him up. And so Cruz
goes after they're
2:50:34
Adam Curry: not sincere is the
point. They're not sincere when
2:50:36
it comes down to it. Oh,
2:50:38
John C Dvorak: no, I don't think
they are. In fact, they this is
2:50:40
one of the few times I'd say
you're right on this because I'm
2:50:43
usually defending them for their
sincerity. Yes. But here Cruz
2:50:48
goes after the same guy. And
this one is really a shocker.
2:50:53
Unknown: Okay, well, let's turn
to something else you wrote in
2:50:56
the Wisconsin women Law Journal.
Again, this is your writing. The
2:51:00
name of the article is
destabilizing, power and rape.
2:51:03
Why consent theory and rape law
has turned on its head you cited
2:51:06
Professor Catherine MacKinnon
who argued, quote, sexuality
2:51:10
itself is a power web in which
heterosexual relations per se,
2:51:15
are infused with violence and
control and, quote, most
2:51:19
intercourse is rape. I know that
her views are extreme. And yet,
2:51:25
and when Senator Blackburn asked
you about them here at the
2:51:27
hearing, when you want to be
confirmed, you try to distance
2:51:30
yourself from them. But here's
what you wrote. In the article,
2:51:33
you embrace those views you
wrote, quote, I employ the view
2:51:37
that rape is sex in order to
focus on the significance of
2:51:40
consent and rape law, the sex
act is a violation per se
2:51:44
without consent in order to
properly align the consent
2:51:47
doctrine and write blah with
consent in other areas of law,
2:51:50
non consent must be presumed. Do
you believe that as a mainstream
2:51:57
view that that heterosexual sex
is rape?
2:52:02
Adam Curry: Let me just stop for
a second. So this guy says that
2:52:05
unless you have explicit consent
is always non consensual.
2:52:12
John C Dvorak: Now, he says all
sexes rape.
2:52:15
Unknown: Senator, in that
article, I was exploring
2:52:18
different ideas and theories and
I was employing the hypothetical
2:52:23
that you've just described, to
try to tease out a particular
2:52:27
issue with with respect to
consent. With respect to your
2:52:30
last point, you
2:52:31
also quoted Professor McKinnon,
who wrote, quote, sexuality is
2:52:35
to feminism, what work is to
Marxism? Let me ask you again.
2:52:39
What does that mean?
2:52:41
Senator, I was summarizing
different theories that people
2:52:45
were presenting. So that way I
could explain them and and then
2:52:50
employ an analysis with respect
to the issue of, of what consent
2:52:54
was in the context of sexual
assault back in 30 years ago,
2:52:58
I think your views are far far
out of the mainstream.
2:53:01
Adam Curry: Senator Welch. Wow,
Jesus come quickly. This world
2:53:07
John C Dvorak: guys this world
they keep putting these
2:53:09
characters up and these guys you
know, and they did the Democrats
2:53:12
run the Senate, so they passed
the guy through anyway.
2:53:15
Adam Curry: The really this guy
this guy gets gets gets the nod.
2:53:19
John C Dvorak: I'd be surprised
if he didn't.
2:53:22
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this is so
wrong. These people. These
2:53:26
people are weird
2:53:27
John C Dvorak: black guy, too. I
should mention. And, and a
2:53:31
Muslim?
2:53:33
Adam Curry: Well, neither of
those are disqualifying. But the
2:53:36
John C Dvorak: No, it's not. But
if you think that all sex is
2:53:38
rape, you should be just kicked
off to you should even be doing
2:53:43
anything. He's
2:53:44
Adam Curry: so odd, man. Okay,
well, that's thoroughly
2:53:47
depressing. What states what
states? Are they going to be
2:53:50
federal judges in?
2:53:53
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
have no idea where he's getting
2:53:55
assigned.
2:53:57
Adam Curry: All right. I would
like to end with some big
2:54:00
pharma. Because I'm confused.
Now. I'm not sure. First of all,
2:54:06
we will write ozempic And we'll
go v not necessarily good for
2:54:09
your health. No, but I'm trying
to figure out what I mean. I
2:54:13
think I know what's going on
here in the casino. Obviously,
2:54:16
they spent $500 million in the
last seven months on
2:54:19
advertising, marketing,
underwriting, native ads,
2:54:23
whatever you want to call it,
whatever you want to call it. So
2:54:26
CBS Evening News has the first,
I would say overly positive
2:54:31
ozempic story.
2:54:32
Unknown: It turns out popular
drugs used to suppress appetite
2:54:36
like ozempic and we go we may
have an economic side effect.
2:54:40
People who take them appear to
be buying less food at Walmart.
2:54:43
Yeah. Where today Elodie
Nicholas got her prescriptions
2:54:47
and her groceries?
2:54:48
Yeah, absolutely. I believe that
I buy unless she started
2:54:52
taking ozempic After having two
heart attacks, and she's lost 36
2:54:57
pounds since May has it changed
what you eat?
2:55:00
100% This stuff turns my
stomach. My topic heart used to
2:55:06
be all the fluid because I'd
have all the junk and the sodas
2:55:08
and all that now it's, it's half
or less than half of what it
2:55:12
used to be.
2:55:13
Walmart has one of the most
sophisticated systems for
2:55:16
collecting data on its shoppers
and US CEO John Ferner told
2:55:19
Bloomberg, they've seen smaller
checkouts from people taking
2:55:22
these medications. We do see a
slight pullback and overall
2:55:25
basket less units slightly less
calories. Does it surprise you
2:55:29
that Walmart's looking at this
sort of data? I think every you
2:55:33
know, large retailer is looking
at this sort of data they have
2:55:35
the data. Through their loyalty
programs. Leo feller is Chief
2:55:39
Economist at numerator, a
company that analyzes shopping
2:55:42
receipts for millions of people,
2:55:44
and then we use that data to
help inform retailers to help
2:55:48
inform food manufacturers health
care
2:55:50
providers wrote more than 9
million prescriptions for drugs
2:55:53
use for weight loss in the last
three months of 2022. And Morgan
2:55:58
Stanley estimates 7% of the US
population will be taking these
2:56:02
medications by 2035.
2:56:05
Over the course of the next 10
years. This will likely change
2:56:08
the way that consumers shop and
what consumers are buying
2:56:12
for Elodie Nicholas and her
husband. That's already
2:56:15
happened.
2:56:15
I buy the groceries so it's also
helping him to eat healthy.
2:56:20
Adam Curry: Go to eat healthy.
Oh, there you go. 7% of the
2:56:25
population will die from this
I'm sure this is so bad
2:56:28
John C Dvorak: to take trying to
kill us all here. Here's
2:56:31
Adam Curry: the here's the side
effects very concerning, but I
2:56:34
think this is a secret native ad
at the same time prescription
2:56:37
drugs used to suppress appetite
and we probably should state
2:56:41
that we know from scientific
fact and marketing research that
2:56:47
telling people a product will
kill them makes them buy it
2:56:51
more. See the cigarette cartons
with horrible diseased lungs and
2:56:56
hearts and this has only created
more demand for the products.
2:57:01
Unknown: Prescription drugs used
to suppress appetite have
2:57:04
exploded in popularity this past
year with social media
2:57:09
influencers and celebrities
sharing the success they've had
2:57:13
using the drugs and magnetite
marketed as Wigo V and ozempic
2:57:17
known technically as GLP. One
agonists
2:57:21
type two diabetes
2:57:22
discovered the Zabbix riser
2:57:24
developed to treat diabetes
Olympics off label use for
2:57:28
weight loss is driving its
demand. But now a new study from
2:57:32
the Journal of the American
Medical Association found that
2:57:35
for every 1000 patients who use
the drug, some suffered moderate
2:57:39
to severe stomach problems,
including pancreatitis and
2:57:44
stomach paralysis. Yeah, each
one
2:57:46
of these complications could be
serious stuff that could be life
2:57:49
threatening.
2:57:50
And while you Langone chief
gastroenterologist Dr. Marco
2:57:54
Chapin says patients outside of
the drugs target audience are at
2:57:58
a higher risk for exhibiting
rare side effects.
2:58:02
The American psyche is given me
a pill or medicine to fix a
2:58:06
problem.
2:58:07
The drugs manufacturer Novo
Nordisk responded to the
2:58:09
findings saying it stands behind
the safety and efficacy of all
2:58:13
our GLP one ra medicines when
used consistent with the product
2:58:18
labeling and approved
indications Oh,
2:58:20
Adam Curry: wow, this is really
tricky. So it's used off label
2:58:27
and they say no, we stand by our
products as long as you use them
2:58:30
for what they're intended for
which is type two diabetes,
2:58:33
right not for weight loss and
and also snuck in here a little
2:58:39
well you know, if you just do
the the old well if you just you
2:58:43
know just you want a pill to
lose some weight well, you could
2:58:45
probably die from that but not
if you're a fat so
2:58:47
Unknown: the American psyche is
giving me a pill or medicine to
2:58:51
fix a problem.
2:58:52
The drugs manufacturer Novo
Nordisk responded to the
2:58:55
findings saying it stands behind
the safety and efficacy of all
2:58:59
our GLP one ra medicines when
used consistent with the product
2:59:03
labeling and approved indication
here comes the study comes as
2:59:07
drug companies work toward
manufacturing a generic version
2:59:10
of the drug. Which if
successful, would give more
2:59:13
people access.
2:59:15
Adam Curry: rebrand. They're
just going to rebrand with a
2:59:19
generic which they own is
genius. Well, you know that
2:59:24
already changed the name
somehow. Well not they're gonna
2:59:26
rebrand it of course the
complete completely different
2:59:29
ozempic will go VI that might
kill you, but this new stuff,
2:59:33
John C Dvorak: which is exactly
the same stuff. It's
2:59:35
Adam Curry: exactly the same.
What kind of name could they
2:59:38
could we come up with for them?
If they were to ask us? Poop it
2:59:46
out.com Yeah, why? No, no, it
has to be a completely new name.
2:59:52
Yeah, it'd
2:59:52
John C Dvorak: be still my way.
I say, Wait, how definitely
2:59:56
would they be nice. They'd like
to put a bunch of words together
2:59:58
like weight loss. Yeah, loss.
Weight loss.
3:00:03
Adam Curry: Fat no more.
3:00:05
John C Dvorak: That's too
obvious.
3:00:07
Adam Curry: So obvious.
3:00:07
John C Dvorak: Yes the sound
like something chemical
3:00:10
Adam Curry: deflate. deflate a
fire.
3:00:14
John C Dvorak: We have to think
about how about die skinny
3:00:16
people get paid big bucks and
come up with these names I
3:00:19
Adam Curry: skinny. I'd like a
skinny like die skinny slim die
3:00:24
skinny is good. That's good.
Good name because you can just
3:00:26
call D skinny. Now if people
would wouldn't even notice it.
3:00:32
Yeah, nice skin. Die skin. Ooh,
die skin. Well, that sounds too
3:00:37
much like skin. Dice guy. Dice
guy dot dice guy. Yeah. Anal
3:00:44
leakage. Now guys know troll
Troll. Troll was gone crazy.
3:00:48
deflate. deflate would be pretty
good.
3:00:50
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, you
3:00:52
Adam Curry: don't like I like
dice skinny D scale.
3:00:53
John C Dvorak: One thing deflate
can't be trademarked.
3:00:56
Adam Curry: No, it can't. I
guess dice guy. DICE DICE guy
3:01:03
Unknown: will work on it. Work
on it.
3:01:06
Adam Curry: Alright, trip trim.
Maybe something was trim, trim,
3:01:10
trim, trim, lean, trim, trim
Alene. Boy, if they really want
3:01:16
to know they have to pay us.
3:01:18
John C Dvorak: We're done. You
have given away free names.
3:01:20
Yeah,
3:01:20
Adam Curry: really? You want to
do your AI we do that? Or we do
3:01:24
that to you the
3:01:24
John C Dvorak: next time? Yeah,
I'm excited about that. AI is
3:01:27
annoying to you. You get all
3:01:30
Adam Curry: we need time to get
worked up about that coming up
3:01:33
next the no agenda stream.com or
if you're in one of those modern
3:01:36
podcast apps, stay listening
because we will have oh, I think
3:01:42
we have the Lotus effect live
with Phoenix and foam boy
3:01:46
speaking of ozempic every single
week on the Lotus effect. They
3:01:51
give you an ozempic They give
you an update every week. So
3:01:55
stay tuned for that. End of show
mixes. Let me see we have on
3:01:59
deck we've got Dr. Ai. We've got
sir Jeff Smith, Jesse Coyne
3:02:03
Nelson. And Sir Michael Anthony
is a stellar All Star wide AI
3:02:08
the mayor, the mayor. The mayor
is in Latin X County. That's
3:02:13
right. Coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country
3:02:16
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
3:02:18
Adam curry.
3:02:20
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain
3:02:23
I'm John C Devorah.
3:02:24
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday right here on the no
3:02:26
agendas. Please join us for that
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3:02:30
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treasure. Go to your Meetup
people connection is protection
3:02:40
until next time adios mofos Oui,
oui. And such
3:02:49
Unknown: Nueva York this is your
nail deep in the jungles of
3:02:53
Latin X America. Oh, no
vacation. I am here to tell the
3:02:58
migrants I invited to NYC to
nevermind stay home. You heard
3:03:04
at school he people keep telling
you all that you could come to
3:03:07
New York City for free money.
Because I said so. We are now
3:03:12
out of room and we are out of
money. So to all of y'all hop in
3:03:17
the border like it's the subway
turnstile. I'm gonna tell you
3:03:21
once I go find new New York is
not a sanctuary city. I repeat
3:03:26
New York No. So no sanctuary
city is no muss, no fuss
3:03:34
Dolla dolla bills, y'all. I'm
confident the Senate will pass
3:03:38
further urgent assistance to
Ukraine later this year.
3:03:43
Israel receives more US aid each
year than any other country.
3:03:55
Faced with a surge in illegal
crossings the Biden
3:03:57
administration has announced it
is waving more than two dozen
3:04:01
federal laws to add on to the
border wall in southern Texas.
3:04:04
This is a major reversal for
President Biden food during the
3:04:07
2020 campaign vowed that not
another foot of wall would be
3:04:11
constructed under his
administration. Oh no, you're
3:04:14
just a nother break in no wall.
3:04:33
Be ready, be the one the best
beauty the friend and everyone
3:04:44
around us. Brave pushing the
side and open mind
3:04:58
down on me In the burdens like
broken one she was blinded
3:05:10
loyalty back to you for a better
life beyond your free
3:05:22
for someone else
3:05:38
like to try new Lions for life
3:06:11
story This has never happened
before in our lifetime
3:06:24
Adam Curry: many believe and
it's likely true it's the viral
3:06:27
video many believe and it's
likely true you just get viral
3:06:30
stuff made me believe and it's
likely true if you have
3:06:35
Unknown: many believe and it's
likely true
3:06:37
Adam Curry: these vaccines are
safe they're effective many
3:06:39
believe and it's likely true.
You're gonna die and this is
3:06:42
from a doctor
3:06:51
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in A
This is blatant sexism