0:00
John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a
month.
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Unknown: Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: October 12 2023 This
Year Award winning give a nation
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media assassination episode
1598.
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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: penetrating the fog
of war and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the country
near FEMA Region number six in
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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where today's
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theme is babies. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Kill. My goodness,
we're just going back in time.
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Everything to read rerun. It's a
total rerun. I might as well I
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got the clips, I might as well
run them. They're all pretty
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short. Let's just go right for
it.
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John C Dvorak: Well, before you
do that, I have a three clip set
0:49
disparate disparate clips that
I'd like to run first. Oh, no,
0:55
no, dog. No,
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Adam Curry: Phoebe says. Daddy
slipped these clips. Phoebe. All
1:02
right.
1:03
John C Dvorak: Dose got a great
bark.
1:06
Adam Curry: I should run it
through the through the next
1:08
time she does that. I'll run it
through the sound effects. Well,
1:11
you should be recording
1:12
John C Dvorak: it up. There's
nothing a dog finds more
1:15
annoying than playing dog barks
back to them.
1:18
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. I'm sure
this will drive the dog crazy.
1:21
All right. Well, well, you I
mean, this is what we call
1:24
John C Dvorak: this is just
theory. This reason is because
1:26
this is involving Chris Cuomo.
It's what we call an audible.
1:30
And here we go. This is
distarch. With this clip, which
1:33
is a Hannity show. He brings it
some Trumps to John, and it
1:38
begins with this. Joining us
now. former national security
1:42
adviser Robert O'Brien is with
us. When Bibi Netanyahu says
1:47
that they will strike with a
force that will be remembered
1:51
for generations. I've known
Prime Minister Netanyahu now for
1:55
almost three decades. I'm pretty
much 100% certain he means what
2:01
he says. He says the Middle East
will be reconfigured as a result
2:05
of this, you know, evil attack
on on their homeland. I believe
2:10
he means it.
2:11
Unknown: What are your thoughts?
Well, I know Bibi will also shot
2:14
and I think he means what he
says here and like he's got no
2:17
choice. I mean, if anyone who
wants to know that whether evil
2:20
exists in the world, just need
to look at the top of your
2:22
monologue and hear about the
babies being killed. I mean,
2:26
what kind of person goes house
to house and beheads babies and
2:30
these aren't civilians who were
killed collaterally in a in a
2:34
military attack. These were
civilians who are wanted they
2:37
slaughtered? This isn't war This
is barbarism?
2:40
Adam Curry: I think that's the
new thing to be able to say now
2:42
if you're on television, it's
like I know BB well.
2:46
John C Dvorak: I know BP Well. I
2:47
Adam Curry: know BB. I know.
Yeah, baby. You met baby.
2:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, baby new
horse with the actress. Okay.
2:55
All right. Next up and you're
desperate Clint. Now we go to
2:58
Cuomo calling out Hamas.
3:00
Unknown: Nobody wants to see
pictures of mutilated children.
3:03
I promise you that
3:04
Adam Curry: well, that we
actually would like to see it
3:06
just to know that it's real.
Yeah, because it's only the news
3:11
guys
3:11
John C Dvorak: real pictures, of
course, not photoshopped ones.
3:14
But
3:15
Unknown: however, the reality
should not be shied away,
3:18
because it's what's driving the
understanding of this situation.
3:22
People in America especially
have a misguided connection
3:26
between the plight of
Palestinians, which is real, the
3:30
suffering there, which is real
and going on right now. People
3:33
are dying in Gaza because of
Israel's necessary retaliation.
3:38
I'm sure kids are involved there
too. In essence, you're involved
3:41
there too. You should be seeing
the pictures to drive the
3:46
intensity of the purpose here.
And we have to remember that our
3:51
urgency is on those who were
captured, not hostages, not
3:56
hostages. hostages are people
who are taken for security. And
4:01
they are negotiated. These
people were captured. They're
4:04
being mutilated. They're being
brutalized in ways that very few
4:08
people have seen in this region
in a long, long time. And
4:13
remember, it is on Hamas, to
counteract what I just said, it
4:18
is on Hamas to come forward and
say, No, we're holding them
4:22
humanely, because we want
protection against what Israel
4:25
is doing because we want to
negotiate because we want to be
4:28
taken seriously. This is on
Hamas, Hamas loves to talk
4:32
they're putting out videos all
over the internet of complete
4:35
barbarism and savagery. They
have said Not one word about
4:40
treating these people as human
beings. And they have given us
4:44
all the evidence and
understanding that they are
4:47
treating them worse than dogs.
4:50
Adam Curry: Okay, yes, let's
spin people up to school.
4:53
John C Dvorak: You know, it took
me all of five minutes to find
4:56
out that Hamas had said plenty I
guess He didn't have the time to
5:01
do it because he's flying over
there wants to hang out.
5:04
Adam Curry: He's played this
year in the region cromoz in the
5:06
region. Yes, he
5:07
John C Dvorak: went there
because it's in the region
5:09
thing.
5:09
Adam Curry: It's called in the
region. Yeah, he's
5:11
John C Dvorak: in the region. He
is in Israel, but it's Northern
5:15
Israel, it
5:15
Adam Curry: seems to be in the
region.
5:17
John C Dvorak: So region is the
region. So here's Hamas
5:20
Palestinian denials,
5:21
Unknown: because I'm brigades
has broadcast a video that shows
5:25
the release of three captives
that the video shows an Israeli
5:28
woman and two children near the
holiday kibbutz near Gaza. They
5:32
were said to have been released
shortly after being captured by
5:34
Hamas on Saturday. Hamas sources
say that video refutes what they
5:39
called false Israeli allegations
that Hamas fighters killed women
5:43
and children are the video
follows an earlier statements by
5:47
the group that said, Some
Western media outlets continue
5:51
to spread Zionist slander and
lies about our Palestinian
5:54
people and their resistance,
which falsely and slanderously
5:58
promoted allegations that
members of the Palestinian
6:01
resistance, beheaded children
and assaulted women without any
6:05
evidence to support their lives
and claims Hamas strongly
6:09
condemns the baseless
allegations
6:12
Adam Curry: and that's on Al
Jazeera so that's that's more
6:15
more official than it would be
on on x which is probably all
6:19
Cuomo is looking at. We want
everybody to
6:22
John C Dvorak: know what Cohen
was looking at took me five
6:23
minutes to find that clip. And
this is an Hamas had made these
6:27
statements earlier way before he
came off and you act in the act.
6:31
But this is the problem you have
is that our media is just not
6:37
good. No, and if you're right,
yes, you're right. And if you
6:41
listen to the I mean, I didn't
clip it because I got too many
6:44
clips already and this is cut
you can
6:48
Adam Curry: well let me let me
jump into into some beheaded
6:51
baby clips.
6:54
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
one thing to listen to judge
7:00
Jeanine and these others on the
five judge Jeanine is back to
7:04
her bomb them bomb them bomb
them again, don't really it's
7:07
it's fascinating. I didn't clip
it. I maybe I'll clip it for
7:10
Sunday, but she's just off the
rails.
7:14
Adam Curry: And but but is she
about bombing? Because back in
7:17
the day, that was
7:19
John C Dvorak: the Qaeda. Yes,
7:21
Unknown: bomb them, bomb them
and bomb them again.
7:26
John C Dvorak: Now, she made the
statement. And again, like I
7:30
said, I got too many clips
already. But I'll tell you what
7:33
she said. She said they're
coming here.
7:36
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Okay. Let
me that's you're moving too
7:39
fast. First, we got to know that
the bait the beheaded baby
7:45
story. Which has apparently
already been debunked by the
7:53
journalist who wrote about it
who said I didn't really write
7:56
about I want to clarify, I did
not tweet, which is by the way,
8:00
what journalism are we
performing here?
8:03
Unknown: Look at a journalism is
this I did not
8:05
Adam Curry: tweet 40 babies had
been beheaded. I tweeted that
8:07
form media had been told women
and children had been
8:09
decapitated. But we had not been
shown bodies, which was my
8:12
response to reports which had
gone viral about the 40 babies.
8:15
Also this number 40 is
interesting. I realized the way
8:18
my talk was, I don't know. 40
days. 40 Nights. It's all Oh,
8:24
John C Dvorak: Arabian Nights.
Yeah.
8:25
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Which is,
I realized, I realized the way
8:29
my tweet was written was too
short to explain the full
8:31
context. So I deleted it. All
right now, but this this went
8:35
quite viral. Of course. I mean,
we've seen this end of show make
8:39
sure even here. Some historical
examples we
8:42
John C Dvorak: have one of the
Indus show mixes is dynamite. We
8:45
had the
8:45
Adam Curry: babies on Bay Bay
and nets we had the babies and
8:48
incubators that they threw on
the floor. And this is just a
8:50
new twist. This is This is
Nicole Zedeck. From by the way,
8:56
John C Dvorak: the babies I'm
paying this I should go we
8:58
should mention this because I've
never mentioned the show before
9:00
but when you study world
history, there's this was the
9:05
same baby stories that were told
during the during the Vikings
9:09
invasions of northern Europe. It
was the day we're told that the
9:15
Vikings came in and grabbed the
babies and then threw them in
9:18
the air and then caught them
with their
9:20
Adam Curry: horns their horns,
their horns on their on their
9:23
John C Dvorak: doors, but the
spears they spear them. The
9:26
babies the babies flying through
the air. So this is not a new
9:29
No,
9:30
Adam Curry: it's late. It's a
true and tried tactic which
9:33
works incredibly well. So here's
the same Nicole Zedek who's who
9:37
tweeted X she slashed. Soldiers
told me they believe 40 Babies
9:42
slashed children were killed.
The exact death toll is still
9:44
unknown as the military
continues to go house to house
9:47
and find more Israeli
casualties. I 24 News. So Here's
9:51
her report,
9:52
Unknown: David, it's hard to
even explain exactly just the
9:55
mass casualties that happened
right here. In fact, the Israeli
9:59
Miller Jury says they still
don't have a clear number. But
10:01
I'm talking to some of the
soldiers and they say what
10:03
they've witnessed as they've
been walking through these
10:07
different houses, these
different communities, babies,
10:11
their heads caught off. That's
what they said, done down,
10:15
families completely gunned down
in their beds. You can see some
10:20
of these soldiers right now
comforting each other. Many of
10:23
them reserves who jumped into
action, leaving their own
10:26
families behind as well. Not
knowing the sheer horror that
10:31
they were about to come to. They
say they've never experienced
10:35
anything like this. This is
nothing that anyone could have
10:37
even imagined. When you're
walking through here, baby cribs
10:41
thrown to the side.
10:44
Adam Curry: There you go. So she
actually didn't say that she had
10:47
seen it herself. It's what
soldiers told her. But that was
10:50
enough. That was enough. And it
doesn't matter what Nicole's ex
10:54
says. Because our President saw
evidence proof he saw it with
10:57
his own eyes
10:58
Unknown: just came to basically
I really mean it from the bottom
11:00
of my heart. I give him my word
as a Biden. Thank you. There you
11:03
go.
11:03
Thank you for the intensity of
your support. It matters. It
11:08
matters in Americans see what's
happening. I have been doing
11:14
this a long time. I never really
thought that I would see
11:20
confirmed pictures of terrorist
behavior
11:25
Adam Curry: children. So we saw
it with his own eyes confirmed.
11:29
It's confirmed people. And then
he he goes into his tip when he
11:32
lies. He always goes into this.
11:34
Unknown: I never saw it ever.
Anyway.
11:38
Adam Curry: Anyway, anyway,
anyway, not to get the actual
11:43
report that you will probably,
uh, maybe maybe the five we'll
11:48
talk about it. But the White
House jumped into into immediate
11:54
crisis mode, because Oh, no, no,
no, he didn't quite mean that.
11:57
Unknown: Now. We have some
latest updates coming in from
12:00
the US a White House
spokesperson has given an
12:03
official clarification, as
reported by US media, that
12:06
neither President Joe Biden nor
the White House Administration
12:09
has seen any pictures or
verified any reports of children
12:12
beheaded by Hamas. Earlier
during a roundtable with leaders
12:16
from the Jewish community. Biden
had mentioned seeing the
12:19
confirmed pictures of militants
beheading children. The official
12:23
clarified though, that the
President's remarks were quote,
12:26
unquote, referring to public
comments from media outlets and
12:29
Israeli officials.
12:31
Adam Curry: Okay. All right,
please. He's an old, old man, he
12:36
senile, so don't you get it? And
at this point, I think the
12:38
international press is like,
yeah, we get it. Okay. Oh, you
12:41
made a mistake. Very, very,
very, very bad.
12:45
John C Dvorak: Mistake. I saw it
with my own eyes firmed
12:51
confirmed, confirmed.
12:53
Adam Curry: So this now. And let
me just as predicted, we got
12:59
some emails, and I just want to
reiterate that we're not I mean,
13:04
we don't really care one way or
the other, you know, about this
13:09
particular stuff. You know, it's
it's fun to fun to debunk it and
13:14
take a you know, a helicopter
view. But this is not about who
13:18
did what to whom, what we're
trained to do is to look at how
13:22
everybody is being spun up and
programmed against each other.
13:25
In fact, arguing against each
other is part of the point.
13:29
Distraction, which is beautiful,
because we don't hear about
13:33
Hunter don't hear about him
anymore. No hunters out of the
13:36
news. Look at the Gaza border,
not your border. We got a war
13:39
president now as good for
elections. You never want to
13:42
change a winning team. You know,
we've been spun up to believe
13:47
that tomorrow October the 13th
attacks in America attacks in
13:51
America. It's gonna happen
everywhere. This is where Judge
13:53
Jeanine gets it. She's probably
on the same hill country, Lady
13:55
text, text tree that I've been
seeing. But really it's all
14:00
recall. Then even just saying
911 That it doesn't matter who
14:06
you are even. Even the crackpot
in the buzzkill have oh, we get
14:11
you know, you get images, you
know where you were at that
14:13
moment? 911 911 911 This is the
Israel's 911 And so that means a
14:20
plan. What what?
14:22
John C Dvorak: Why is it January
6 Worse than 911
14:26
Adam Curry: It was funny the
last time and not
14:29
John C Dvorak: just my material
once in a while. You just
14:32
Adam Curry: spiking the ball
because it was genius. So it's
14:38
so the plan unfolds and in there
and reminder. After 911 on 911
14:46
Osama bin Laden Osama bin Laden
Osama bin Laden is Osama bin
14:49
Laden. Afghanistan Of course. I
mean no Iraq Iraq aluminum
14:52
tubes, yellowcake The New York
Times lied. The government lie
14:57
to get everyone agrees, I think
Now that we were lied to, to get
15:01
us into, of into Iraq, which is
not where Osama came from, but
15:07
of course, it was a genius
liquidity event of some $20
15:10
trillion, I think,
15:12
John C Dvorak: over 20 plus
years lot. Yeah, 20 trillion.
15:15
But
15:16
Adam Curry: I think if you look
it up, it may even be more than
15:18
20 trillion. I know. Okay, I'll
consult the book of knowledge
15:22
while we listen to the Israeli
ambassador to the UK, because
15:27
it's not just 911 Oh, no,
15:29
Unknown: this is our obligation,
our first obligation to fight
15:33
back and to make sure Hamas will
never have the ability to act
15:37
against Israelis,
15:38
Ambassador to totally How are
you at responding to the fact
15:41
that this is really creating a
whole host of tensions around
15:45
the world that have become sort
of ethnically focused on both
15:49
sides? It really has erupted
debates and protests and anger
15:53
on both sides. How would you
like to angle the conversation
15:56
to be able to foster something
more productive?
15:59
I think that this is time to
fight and to descend the people
16:03
of Israel. And I think whoever
saw the fact that 1000 Israelis
16:09
were killed in cold blood cannot
speak now about both sides.
16:13
There is one side here, who's
the side that wants freedom,
16:17
democracy, cares about human
rights, cares about people's
16:21
life, which is the Israeli side,
and there is the other side,
16:24
this is good versus evil, we
need to fight it. It's a terror
16:28
organization recognized in the
US and in the UK. And you know,
16:32
many people are comparing to
911. And I heard many people
16:36
that are making the equivalent
numbers with the proportion when
16:39
you think about Israel as a tiny
country, just 9 million people
16:43
to actually 10 times of 911.
This is the time to support
16:48
Israel, the international
community should understand.
16:50
Adam Curry: It's 10 times 911.
And then this comparison of
16:54
capita no but that came out
right away Sir Brian of London,
16:58
he immediately it was put into
his head and I'm not disputing
17:02
that this isn't you know that
this is the same vibe because
17:05
yeah, in in Israel, everybody
knows everybody. They're all
17:08
related. They as by their own
admission, but the 911 meme,
17:14
that's a good one. We got to
play that up. Let's bring in
17:17
James Stavridis. Admiral Joining
17:20
John C Dvorak: us now with more
is former Supreme Allied
17:22
Commander of NATO
17:23
Adam Curry: Supreme Allied
Commander, I'm sorry, Admiral,
17:26
James got his honorifics, right?
17:28
John C Dvorak: Staff Rita's know
where to start here. Admiral. It
17:33
take hostages, it's the
17:35
Adam Curry: same. It's exactly
the same tone as 911. They have
17:41
the the news media, which flips
right into it, no problem. And
17:45
it's it's normal, because
they've been told 10 times worse
17:48
than 911. Oh,
17:50
John C Dvorak: you bring them
back to Gaza. And you put them
17:52
in civilian areas, and you
surround yourself with
17:55
civilians, and then you threaten
Israelis. If there's any, any
18:00
bombing where civilians are
injured, you start executing
18:02
hostages, it's what is that you
know who's supposed to do when
18:07
you hear something like that?
18:09
Unknown: Well, you start by
calling all of this what it is,
18:12
which is terrorism. These are
acts of terror. This is akin to
18:16
the 911 attack. And just a lot
of people hear some of these
18:21
numbers. You know, there have
been hundreds of Israelis killed
18:24
and there are 150 hostages. To
put that in context. Joe, for an
18:29
American, you have to do the
math of the population adjust.
18:34
Here we go. If you have the
math, for example, 1000 Israelis
18:39
killed, I think it would be well
north of that. Ultimately,
18:42
that's like 35,000 Americans
killed on an equivalent 911 day.
18:47
And by the way on 911. There
weren't hostages. So let's say
18:51
there are 100 hostages that
would be 911 in the United
18:55
States with 3500 hostages. So
you're right.
18:59
John C Dvorak: That someone
yesterday said it was like
19:01
Nagasaki, I think it was
Jonathan Greenblatt on another
19:03
network. It wasn't like 911 It
was almost like if you do the
19:07
math,
19:07
Adam Curry: yeah. Do the math.
Okay. So the you know,
19:10
John C Dvorak: okay, I want to
say a couple of things. First of
19:14
all the 911 analogies bad. That
was four guys, they took this
19:19
store some planes and blew up
pretty much took out a building
19:23
one shot do they want people
industries, they weren't rating
19:26
a dance party and shooting up
the day did I mean, there was
19:31
that was a massacre where the
260 kids were killed. It's it
19:35
seems more like a extended
version of you know, that
19:38
shooter in Las Vegas where they
just started picking off poor
19:42
innocents that were at a dance,
country and western dance. The
19:46
911 thing just eludes me right
now is really
19:51
Adam Curry: an illusion
seriously,
19:53
John C Dvorak: there's
absolutely so little to do with
19:55
911 It's just the use of the
term and it the whole thing by
20:00
bothers me it's not as though a
number of people weren't killed.
20:03
And that's bad enough, John, why
are we going through the massive
20:08
trouble of equating it to this
and that and making stuff up and
20:13
making it worse than it already
is?
20:15
Adam Curry: Because it is. It's
beyond me what's not beyond me
20:18
and all it's clear as day. By
the way, Brown University says
20:23
the cost of the 20 year war was
$8 trillion. Okay, 8 trillion.
20:28
Now, the whole point is
playbook. That's the whole
20:32
point. We got to do it all over
again, we know where it leads.
20:36
We know it leads to Iran. That's
that's it's obvious that's
20:39
that's always been in play.
It'll probably go first to
20:42
Hezbollah. And we have which
would be Lebanon, and we have to
20:47
get everyone into that mode.
911 911 We need money. We need
20:51
money, money, money, money,
money, and we have a bad guy. We
20:54
have an Osama bin Laden. It is
so unbelievably close to the
20:59
original 911 story. It's crazy.
21:01
Unknown: This is one of the only
known photos of Muhammad if it
21:06
dates from 1989 when he was 24
years old years before he became
21:11
a massive military mastermind.
He lives in hiding in Gaza. His
21:16
face hasn't been seen publicly
in years. But according to
21:20
Israeli reports, he's been heard
speaking about the weekend
21:25
attacks on Israel in this video
21:26
Adam Curry: remember when we had
we only had cave audio from
21:30
Osama bin Laden? Remember that?
Oh, yes, we have audio from him
21:33
in the cave, giving the
instructions which had no idea
21:37
what he was saying, Oh, we only
have audio of Muhammad if he'd
21:40
seen publicly
21:41
Unknown: in years. But according
to Israeli reports he's been
21:45
heard and heard speaking about
the weekend attacks on Israel in
21:50
this video released by Hamas has
led her masters military wing
21:55
the Alka some brigades for two
decades, as seen in this 2003
22:00
report by French TV network
false television he was already
22:04
in hiding.
22:07
Why? We the fighters of the Alka
Sombra gates confirmed there
22:11
will be no negotiations with
Israel or the US whether
22:15
even before he commanded the
brigades de F led a wave of
22:18
suicide bombings that killed
dozens of Israelis than under
22:22
his leadership, Mr. switched its
primary tactic to cross border
22:26
raucous attacks from Gaza. ATF
has escalated these
22:31
indiscriminate attacks into a
multi pronged assault, directly
22:35
targeting Israeli civilians in
their own homes.
22:39
Easy to remember those
rhinoplasty were at an impasse.
22:42
They saw that the old methods
weren't working. And they also
22:45
realized that by doing this,
they succeeded in creating
22:48
terror, creating huge
psychological effects.
22:51
Over the years staff has
survived multiple attempts on
22:54
his life,
22:55
wait for the wounded in previous
Israeli assassination attempts
23:01
from 2001 onwards. There are
reports that he has lost an eye
23:06
there are reports that he has
lost at least one limb.
23:10
Earlier this week, Israeli
airstrikes hit Muhammad day of
23:12
his family home reportedly
killing several of his immediate
23:16
relatives. DFC exact location is
unknown.
23:21
Adam Curry: I'm gonna bet you he
shows up in Iran. I'm just I'm
23:24
just gonna guess that that might
be a good place for the this guy
23:27
is profile hasn't been spun up
enough yet. This is France 24.
23:31
But a one eyed one legged
bandit, like Osama bin Laden is
23:35
a step above. I mean, this is
this is really taking it all the
23:39
way you watch this guy be played
UPS exactly the same script as
23:45
911. And now we have to continue
to create strife inside our own
23:51
countries. We have to make sure
that we're all yelling, you
23:54
know, if you're not for this
group, You're horrible. If
23:56
you're not for that group,
You're horrible. Bring on the ad
24:00
L on MSNBC What a match made in
heaven.
24:04
Unknown: The thing that's so
challenging vexing about this is
24:06
people are saying well, could
this escalate into a wider war?
24:10
It is a water war. This is Al
Qaeda from from al Qaeda to ISIS
24:16
to Hamas. He says what Islamic
radicalism, jihadism looks like,
24:21
again, it doesn't seek a
peaceful resolution of a
24:23
conflict. This was not some
inevitable outcome. This was a
24:27
pre planned massacre, and how
did they send 1000s of missiles
24:31
into Israel? Because they were
supplied by Iran. And we'll ask
24:35
those questions. We will wonder
about
24:37
Adam Curry: houses Jonathan
Greenblatt, the CEO of the anti
24:40
Defamation League.
24:41
Unknown: Oh, that failure
happened that I saw David
24:43
Ignatius, who's journalism I so
deeply respect, and it was
24:46
reporting I appreciate and he
said, you know, they will look
24:49
at was this an intelligence
failure, a military failure.
24:52
Jonathan, same playbook. This
was the West's failure. This was
24:57
our failure for decades to allow
out Iran and its proxies to
25:02
dehumanize Zionists and Jews to
allow people to think on college
25:07
campuses at Harvard. To allow
anti Zionism to flourish.
25:12
Adam Curry: We say I'm sure you
saw the, the reports that that
25:17
all these billionaires and
business owners have said, Oh,
25:21
if you signed that note, at
Harvard, we're not we're never
25:25
gonna hire you. You're not
hireable you're a horrible
25:28
person saw this
25:29
Unknown: in the 30s legitimate
professors, students who came to
25:34
believe the poison of the Third
Reich, who came to think that in
25:38
the wake of World War One, the
Jews had literally abandoned
25:42
Germany. And remember what
history would Hitler said it's
25:46
the Jews who caused their own
misfortune. Now we have
25:49
Palestinian Hamas apologists and
their acolytes here in the West
25:53
are accomplices. Jonathan
saying, Israel broth is on
25:56
blaming the victim, while we're
still collecting the bodies is
26:01
as disgraceful and as
dishonorable thing as I could
26:05
ever imagine. The last thing
I'll say, and I'm so sorry, but
26:08
I don't ever remember feeling
like this before. Is that the
26:12
idea? The notion that somehow
this piece this rapprochement
26:18
with Saudi Arabia, they were
trying to disrupt it I think
26:21
there's some truth to that. But
let's be clear, that was a path
26:25
to peace working out a deal that
could have given the
26:28
Palestinians the end the
Israelis the confidence to make
26:32
a deal with the Palestinians.
Terror, reinforces terror
26:36
reinforces the conflict, because
that's what these these
26:40
barbarians want. We've got to
stand up against them every time
26:44
Adam Curry: so you know, it
doesn't matter what you say
26:46
you're gonna have someone yell
at you no matter who you are, we
26:50
might as well just not say
anything and even our very even
26:52
though I predicted these emails
would come in just two quick
26:56
ones that I'll just read your
take on Israel and the massacre
27:00
at the Music Festival being an
OP is disgusting longtime
27:04
listener I think I'm done now.
Here's my here's my favorite
27:10
what
27:11
John C Dvorak: was the first
line he said what he said was an
27:13
OP says
27:14
Adam Curry: Your take on Israel
and the massacre at the Music
27:17
Festival being an OP is
disgusting.
27:19
John C Dvorak: We never said it
was an OP No in fact that we
27:23
said it No. I never said was an
OS.
27:27
Adam Curry: It might have been
an inside job but not an OP.
27:29
John C Dvorak: Well, we fit we
fit well. In my the way I see it
27:34
is that this was allowed to take
place for some alternatives for
27:38
some for some reason, or other
because they there's no way that
27:42
this could have been a surprise.
That's all as far as I took it.
27:46
Yeah, those people were
genuinely killed. It wasn't an
27:49
OP.
27:50
Adam Curry: Well, you you.
You're like this next one?
27:54
John C Dvorak: I bet I will. And
by the way, we don't need people
27:57
like that in this audience.
27:59
Adam Curry: Now but it's
important to I think it's
28:03
important to just show this that
the strife is even within no
28:06
agenda nation.
28:08
John C Dvorak: And because we're
going to have new we had the
28:10
same thing with Ukraine. We lost
a lot of list.
28:12
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Would you
framework Oh, and guess what
28:14
turns out to be pretty spot on
about that one. But doesn't of
28:17
course, you sound like a neocon.
That's a subject from it's not a
28:23
real country to the nice Jews.
We're just going to pray in the
28:27
temple. You are Neo cons. Let's
just let me read it. Your Neo
28:32
cons. I'm gonna start I'm gonna
start over
28:35
John C Dvorak: it's over but I'm
just today. This is like is he
28:38
listening to our show
28:40
Adam Curry: yet? But this is
this is what happens when people
28:42
get infected by by the media
virus. It's a truth when when
28:46
people throw at you 911 The
first thing I think is dancing
28:51
Israelis or whatever. From it's
not a real country to the nice
28:56
Jews. We're just going to pray
in the temple. Your neocon
28:59
Zionist biases are becoming
obvious, and you sound like Dan
29:03
Vaughn Gino or your buddy Glenn
Beck, playing Wesley Clark's
29:07
clip and not connecting it to
the Zionist project and the
29:10
ancillary projects like mass
immigration, pornography, trans
29:14
attacks on free speech that they
do to us which they did to
29:18
Germany until they rose up
against jewelry and butthurt
29:20
bankers thus rallied the world
to destroy them. It is one
29:24
tribal group doing all these
things and you know it no matter
29:28
how hard your Jewish wife John
handpicks view it's going to do
29:33
your sole good to tell the truth
and connect the dots or are you
29:36
going to convert to take part in
the blood rituals the sick and
29:40
the interviews want to return to
and desecrate whole Muslim holy
29:44
sites? You are already halfway
there halfway there as a Christ
29:48
cook it said. So this is how
this this is Christ
29:53
John C Dvorak: cook him a
Christ. Wow,
29:55
Adam Curry: great show title.
Great.
29:57
John C Dvorak: Yes, a great
phrase Christ cook Okay.
30:02
Adam Curry: So a little a little
historical background. I like
30:08
doing this. Because this comes
for because we don't get any of
30:12
this in the United States. And
this, of course, is TRT Turkish
30:16
radio and television. And so
they come at it from a
30:22
perspective that they start off
by, I think, Miss misnomer of
30:27
Palestine, it used to be Syria
Palestina, but okay, they're
30:32
going to give us the history of
Britain's role. And
30:35
subsequently, the League of
Nations and the United Nations
30:40
in this entire thing, and you
just don't get any of these
30:43
perspectives. Forget about the
obvious slant, they're they're
30:48
putting on it, because you can,
you can refute a lot of what
30:53
they're saying. But I think some
of some of this is good to hear
30:57
for people who just have no
perspective, because as long as
31:00
I've been alive, and as long as
you've been alive, this crap has
31:04
been going on. I mean, ever
since you were a boy. I'm sure
31:10
you remember always
31:11
John C Dvorak: been going on. I
remember, just two quick
31:14
stories. One when I was at
Berkeley, it was every day there
31:18
was some Jewish guy and a
Palestinian guy yelling at each
31:22
other in the on the sprawl
Plaza, there was every day. And
31:27
then I went, I told him the
story about this before, which
31:32
is a three hour lecture I heard
at Wheeler auditorium with Phil
31:36
Spector. And this was very long
ago, and Phil Spector mentioned
31:41
in his speech, that when he was
a kid, this has been going on it
31:47
this is never ending,
31:48
Adam Curry: and, and just for a
biblical history, this goes back
31:53
to Isaac and Ishmael, briefly.
Abraham and Sarah were told they
31:59
were going to have a son, the
son would, you know, all the
32:03
tribes of Israel would come out
of this. And Sarah, and they
32:08
were like, 70, or something
like, okay, yeah, sure, God, and
32:11
Sarah's, like, this has taken
too long. So she brought her
32:14
handmade and Hagar and said,
Hey, Bran wants you to lay with
32:18
her, as they say, in biblical
terms. And out of that came
32:21
Ishmael. But that but you know,
she, she used to hope to God.
32:25
And so then eventually she had
Isaac miracle. And this
32:30
literally was the Jew and the
Arab who hate each other. This
32:33
is literally where it comes
from. This is why when I was in
32:37
Bangkok, with my friend Benco,
when Israeli who was an grew up
32:41
and and or lived in Amsterdam,
there were just two Arab guys
32:44
who came into this rest, I
think, was a McDonald's in
32:46
Bangkok of all things. And they
were just dressed in blue jeans,
32:49
he was anything. And he said,
Look at him, look them, they
32:51
hate me. They look at how they
hate me. And then meanwhile, I
32:53
could feel his hate. I'm like,
what what is your problem? It
32:57
goes back this far. So now we go
down go into the history of
33:03
Israel. This is that of course.
I mean, this goes back to the
33:07
Ottoman Empire. Do kids even
learn about the Ottoman Empire
33:10
in school anymore? Only 100
years ago, not that long ago.
33:16
John C Dvorak: taught any of
this? No,
33:17
Adam Curry: it's important.
33:18
Unknown: When you think
Palestine you may think
33:20
violence, land seizures, and a
decade's long Israeli
33:23
occupation. But what you might
not know is that another country
33:26
plays a driving role in causing
the region's conflict, Imperial
33:29
Britain. From 1516 to at least
1917, Palestine was under the
33:37
control of the Ottoman Empire, a
religiously diverse land where
33:41
Christians, Muslims and Jews
lived alongside one another at
33:44
peace for the most part. Then in
the early 1900s, a small number
33:47
of European Jews were trying to
drum up support for Zionism and
33:50
establishment of a Jewish
homeland just 20 years before in
33:53
1897, the movements led by
Theodore Hutsul, was initiated
33:57
at a conference in Switzerland,
they decided that they would
34:00
advocate for a Jewish homeland
in Palestine. But the movement
34:02
at the time didn't have much
support. And at the time, only
34:06
around 8% of the population of
Palestine was Jewish. At the
34:10
same time, Arab nationalism was
on the rise, and many
34:12
Palestinians wanted an
independent state, Imperial
34:16
Britain you have both ambitions
of Zionist and Palestinians and
34:19
use the situation to bolster
their own interests. In 1914,
34:23
amid World War One, Britain went
to war with the Ottoman Empire.
34:26
And in 1915, Henry McMahon,
Britain's representative in
34:29
Cairo that pushed Arab leaders
with a proposal, Britain was
34:32
agreed to Arab independence if
they helped fight against the
34:35
Ottomans. Then in 1917,
Britain's Foreign Secretary
34:38
wrote a one paragraph letter to
Walter Rothschild a leading
34:41
figure in the British Jewish
community. It's read His
34:44
Majesty's government's views
with favor the establishment in
34:46
Palestine have a national home
for the Jewish people, and will
34:49
use their best endeavours to
facilitate the achievement of
34:52
this object. This letter became
known as the Balfour
34:54
Declaration.
34:55
Adam Curry: This is important
because I think even today's
34:58
kids should at least learn about
the All for declaration. I mean,
35:02
it gives you a little more
context than this drivel. This
35:07
this, the absolute drivel that
is being seeped out of
35:12
television and people in watch
television. But all these clips
35:15
get onto social media and it's
in some ways, even taken up
35:19
context is just horrible how
over socialized and under
35:23
educated people are.
35:25
Unknown: And it was in stark
contrast to a declaration of the
35:27
British and French armies in
1918, which showed the people of
35:30
Syria Palestine and Mesopotamia
of autonomy. So what was going
35:34
on? Britain had promised
independence to the Arabs that
35:37
lived in Palestine, but then
also promised a homeland for
35:40
Jews on land that was already
inhabited was Britain just
35:43
transferring land that did not
belong to them to whoever they
35:45
liked. When the Ottoman Empire
collapsed in 1918, the League of
35:49
Nations gave Britain a mandate
or administrative control of
35:51
Palestine in 1920. It was a dual
mandate. On one hand, they were
35:55
to act on behalf of
Palestinians. But on the other
35:58
hand, they were to act on behalf
of the international community
36:00
of Jews who wanted to establish
a homeland, Britain and drew up
36:03
arbitrary borders, transferring
the eastern bank of the Jordan
36:06
River to the Hashemites. It was
under the British mandate that
36:09
Jews from Europe began to
emigrate to Palestine and buy up
36:12
land. The Jewish population in
Palestine grew tenfold, from
36:15
60,000 to more than 600,000.
Between 1918 and 1947. Many
36:21
Palestinians saw the mass influx
of Jews as a European colonial
36:24
movement.
36:24
Adam Curry: What's interesting
is the video that goes along
36:26
with this, you literally see
checkpoints with people on
36:30
horses. Yeah, it's the same
thing. It's been going on since
36:35
for a long time, the checkpoints
there were no cars, people on
36:39
horses,
36:40
Unknown: so as one might expect
it led to conflict. In 1929,
36:44
riots broke out at the Wailing
Wall in Jerusalem, with
36:47
Palestinians and Jews lost
lives. In 1936. After Jewish
36:51
emigration increased even more,
more riots broke out. This time
36:55
the British were heavy handed
and killed between 2005 1000
36:58
Palestinians. The Royal British
Commission concluded that
37:01
because Britain had allowed mass
emigration, Palestine had two
37:04
distinct societies that couldn't
be reconciled.
37:06
Adam Curry: I love how Britain
kind of no one really talks
37:10
about Britain being the the
actor behind the
37:12
John C Dvorak: whole thing.
That's the reason they're so
37:15
guilt ridden. And they're they
jumping in oh, we're gonna do
37:20
whatever we have to
37:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's 40
seconds left,
37:23
Unknown: they recommended a
partition of the land. The Arab
37:26
hire committee rejected this,
saying it was all their lands.
37:29
Britain then banned the Arab
higher commission. They
37:31
introduced the white paper of
1939 white paper stated that
37:34
Palestine should be a binational
states inhabited by Jews and
37:37
Palestinians, but that Jewish
immigration would be limited for
37:40
five years. But illegal
immigration still went on and
37:43
violates all immigration. And
when Britain couldn't handle the
37:46
mess, they had a part in
creating, they handed the
37:49
country back to the UN in 1948.
The UN then decided to partition
37:53
Palestine. The story gets a lot
more complicated after this, but
37:56
the British promising land which
already belongs to Palestinians,
37:59
to other people has played a
part in decades of conflict and
38:02
bloodshed.
38:03
Adam Curry: Alright, so the UN,
the UN is like, oh, we should
38:06
have a two state solution.
Another thing I've been hearing
38:09
all my life and here is our
current United Nations. What is
38:16
the Director General? Is it,
President, Chief, whatever the
38:20
group that has
38:21
Unknown: this most recent
violence does not come in a
38:22
vacuum back home. The reality is
that it grows out of a long
38:26
standing conflict with a 56 year
long occupation and no political
38:31
end in sight. I am deeply
distressed by today's
38:35
announcement that Israel will
initiate a complete seizure of
38:38
the Gaza Strip, nothing allowed
in no electricity, food or fuel.
38:44
Israel must see its legitimate
needs for security materialized,
38:49
and Palestinians must see a
clear perspective for the
38:52
establishment of their own state
realized only a negotiated peace
38:58
that fulfills the legitimate
national aspirations of
39:01
Palestinians and Israelis,
together with their security,
39:05
like the long held vision of a
two state solution in line with
39:09
the United Nations resolutions,
international law and previous
39:12
agreements can bring long term
stability to the people of these
39:16
lands and why the Middle East
region. Thank you.
39:20
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you very
much. Whatever same old sank you
39:26
saying that quick, biblical
reference. Matthew 24. This is
39:32
Jesus on the mound he says you
will hear of wars and rumors of
39:35
wars, but see to it that you are
not alarmed. Such things must
39:39
happen but the end is still to
come. Nation will rise against
39:43
nation and kingdom against
kingdom. So you know, as a as a
39:47
Christian, I'm like, Yeah, okay,
I guess maybe we're there. But
39:50
then comes this. There'll be
famines and earthquakes in
39:53
various places.
39:55
Unknown: There is another major
story developing overseas, at
39:58
least 2000 people have died. aid
after twin earthquakes in
40:01
Afghanistan near the border with
Iran, hundreds of people are
40:05
believed to be trapped in the
rubble. A lack of modern
40:08
equipment is hampering the
rescue efforts. No
40:10
Adam Curry: worries, all these
are the beginning of the birth
40:12
pains. Actually, it's
40:14
John C Dvorak: 3000
40:15
Adam Curry: years old report it
is at least two hours old. But
40:20
John C Dvorak: there's another
issue here that's not being
40:21
discussed in the West. And that
is war crimes which are apparent
40:28
by both sides.
40:30
Adam Curry: For me, it's just I
just want to say, war crimes to
40:35
me is the same as hate speech. I
mean, well, it's like, okay,
40:40
John C Dvorak: there are certain
specific things and I want to
40:42
play these three clips you got
it? Is War Crimes lead in Al
40:46
Jazeera.
40:47
Unknown: Petit Calhoun joins me
now from Washington, DC for more
40:51
on this and blinking on his way.
Now, what does the issue having
40:54
to achieve by going himself?
40:57
Well, first and foremost, it
sends the message, it backs up
40:59
with the President's words that
the US is fully behind Israel.
41:03
But there's going to be
discussions and one thing we've
41:05
noticed in the last 24 hours is
the US has really started to
41:09
shift focus to try and to get a
humanitarian corridor out of
41:13
Gaza. We he said on the tarmac,
that he's been speaking to
41:17
officials in Egypt. And in
Israel. He said it was
41:19
complicated. He didn't explain
exactly where the negotiations
41:24
were being held up. He wouldn't
answer that. But it is very
41:27
clear. And we're hearing this
from the White House from the
41:29
secretary of state that they are
pushing to have some way to get
41:33
civilians out of Gaza, get
Americans out, get civilians
41:37
out, they are working that and
they undoubtedly that is going
41:41
to be a huge part of the
conversation.
41:44
John C Dvorak: And that leads us
to the problem that that no one
41:47
wants to talk about in our
media. This is a clip to
41:51
Unknown: the end, Joe Biden has
just been holding a meeting with
41:54
Jewish leaders at the White
House. What did they have to
41:57
talk about? And did he make any
announcements off the back of
42:00
that?
42:01
Well, he actually moved the
needle a little bit. I watched
42:05
his speech just the other day.
And it was the full throated
42:08
angry, really emotional speech
from US President Joe Biden
42:12
about this. And some were
critical of him because he
42:15
didn't call for any sort of
restraint from Israel, it was a
42:18
full throated endorsement. We
were speaking to this group, he
42:21
told them he had spoken to
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
42:24
Netanyahu, and that he told them
that he had even though people
42:28
are very angry that they have to
follow the rules of war. And so
42:34
that's seems to me to be putting
a baseline on what they expect
42:38
from these really operation. One
critical thing is, that would be
42:43
the civilian quarter because it
is against the laws of war two,
42:48
that blood civilians escaped and
also might call into question
42:52
that total blockade blockade of
Gaza. That is a war crime
42:56
according to all rules of law,
the Geneva Convention, so he's
42:59
17, possibly a subtle message to
Israel, that there is a there
43:04
are things that the US will not
condone.
43:08
John C Dvorak: This is going to
be a problem. You can't cordon
43:11
off an entire area and just
pummel them, and not allowing
43:16
them to escape that is a war
crime by any standards. As far
43:19
as I'm concerned. I don't think
it's like hate speech is really,
43:22
you just can't put someone in a
cage and then just bomb the shit
43:25
out of them. Because it's fun. I
have a I have a fact there's a
43:29
third,
43:30
Adam Curry: I want to give you
24 seconds. Because this this is
43:34
of course the problem. This is
from last year. This is fun to
43:38
lie in talking about Russia.
43:39
Unknown: Yesterday, we saw
again, Russia's targeted attacks
43:43
against civilian infrastructure,
targeted attacks on civilian
43:48
infrastructure with a clear aim
to cut off men, women, children
43:54
of water, electricity and
heating with winter coming.
43:58
These are acts of pure terror.
And we have to call it as such.
44:04
Okay,
44:05
John C Dvorak: excellent.
44:06
Adam Curry: To pull out of a hat
you get to call it that
44:09
sometimes I guess not always.
44:10
John C Dvorak: That was a good
one. Yeah. Okay. Well, here's
44:12
the final for these this war
crime stuff,
44:15
Unknown: and petty, can you just
give us a bit more of an idea
44:17
about what sort of military aid
the US is actually sending
44:20
Israel?
44:21
They are being incredibly vague.
As you know, I'm the defense
44:24
correspondents, I've been
speaking to people at the
44:26
Pentagon. And there was concern
even before this happened in
44:30
Israel, that they were going to
run out of ammunition. They've
44:33
been giving incredible amounts
of ammunition to Ukraine.
44:36
They've been trying to ramp up
production, but it obviously
44:38
takes time. This officials told
me on background that basically
44:42
yes, we believe we can give
Israel some of what it needs
44:47
because we've got stockpiles all
over the globe.
44:49
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
All that we had left was cluster
44:54
munitions. Is that what we're
sending over now?
44:58
John C Dvorak: Dado No, in fact,
you Only LG zeros mentioned this
45:01
because we talk about on the
army is oh, we're, you're giving
45:04
him a we're sending some, you
know, some chips down there to
45:07
block to block the
Mediterranean, we're there. But
45:10
they don't say what you're
saying when we're sending them
45:13
delta zero tried to dig into it.
And they can't find out that we
45:17
don't know if it's cluster
munitions or if it's, you know,
45:20
bubblegum we have, there's no
idea. That said
45:23
Unknown: they've been very
vague. They said, We want to
45:25
give them Munitions for the Iron
Dome defense system, obviously.
45:30
And then other than that, they
really haven't given very many
45:33
details. Now, if Israel is were
to launch a ground invasion, it
45:38
is by far the most challenging
type of war for warfare in
45:42
existence, it is exceptionally
dangerous and deadly. So if the
45:47
Israel has decided what they
would do, likely with Secretary
45:50
Blinken, they're going over some
of those plans, some of the
45:52
finding out where some of those
shortfalls are. If they are
45:55
going to do a ground incursion,
in an incredibly densely
45:58
populated area with very narrow
streets, they'll need things
46:01
like night vision goggles,
they'll need ammunition perhaps
46:05
better, but body armor. So
really, they're I think, part of
46:08
trying to get a sense of where
Israel is going to take this and
46:11
what the US can do to help them.
46:13
Okay, thank you so much. That is
Petit Kelheim for us. In
46:16
Washington DC
46:17
Adam Curry: TRT had a report
about what's being sent and the
46:20
and what the US is doing to
support Israel. Here it is
46:24
Unknown: US President Joe Biden
called Hamas his attack on
46:27
Israel and atrocity on an
appalling scale, promised that
46:31
the US has Israel's back and
then issued a warning.
46:36
Let me say again, any country,
any organization, anyone
46:41
thinking of taking advantage of
situation? I have one word,
46:45
don't. Don't
46:48
Adam Curry: that's actually a
contraction. It's actually two
46:49
words.
46:54
John C Dvorak: But even so, even
so he said it twice. I have one
46:57
word, don't don't.
47:01
Unknown: March may be broken.
But our resolve is clear. Biden
47:05
tried to separate the
Palestinian people from Hamas.
47:09
Hamas does not stand for the
Palestinian people, by
47:11
Adam Curry: the way. I'm sorry.
This is our president now.
47:17
Unknown: I have one word don't.
47:20
Adam Curry: And our president
then I have two words for you.
47:25
Predator drones. I mean, come
on. That was cool. Predator
47:28
drones. Two words
47:30
Unknown: don't. Our hearts may
be broken. But our resolve is
47:36
clear.
47:36
Biden tried to separate the
Palestinian people from Hamas.
47:41
Hamas does not stand for the
Palestinian people's right to
47:44
dignity and self determination.
Its stated purpose is
47:48
annihilation of the State of
Israel
47:49
on the murder of Jewish people.
47:51
National Security Adviser Jake
Sullivan says the death toll of
47:54
Americans killed in the Hamas
attack has grown to more than a
47:58
dozen with nearly two dozen
unaccounted for. But it's not
48:02
clear how many of those are
being held hostage by Hamas.
48:06
Sullivan said there are still no
plans to put US forces into the
48:09
conflicts and that for now, the
US is only helping Israel beef
48:14
up its Iron Dome defense shield
and providing expertise and
48:18
intelligence and sending a
flotilla of warships toward
48:22
Israel as a deterrent
48:23
Adam Curry: slay Flotilla. Isn't
a flotilla a certain amount.
48:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no.
Chicken. Nobody uses the term
48:32
flotilla they there's a term for
what they sent.
48:36
Adam Curry: Well, um, see
flotilla is like a bunch of
48:38
rafts. A small fleet of vessels
commercial or otherwise, he was
48:46
asked this
48:47
John C Dvorak: fleet, it's a big
fleet, aircraft carrier and a
48:51
bunch of destroyers small
48:53
Adam Curry: No, that's not a
flotilla. That's a fleet,
48:55
Unknown: but he was asked how
much of Israel's retaliation,
48:58
its destruction in Gaza is the
US willing to tolerate?
49:03
I don't think of this in terms
of retaliation. This is about
49:06
providing support to Israel as
it seeks to defend its territory
49:11
and deal with an ongoing
imminent threat from Hamas
49:14
terrorists.
49:15
Still, the Biden administration
is talking to officials in
49:18
Israel and Egypt, about
providing a safe passage to
49:21
Palestinians, perhaps through
Egypt, even though Egypt has
49:25
been reluctant in the past to
open up its Gaza border to them.
49:29
And that is sure to be one of
the topics when US Secretary of
49:33
State Antony Blinken arrives in
Israel later this week. Oh,
49:37
that's
49:37
Adam Curry: all you need. You
need Blinken that's just sent
49:39
Newland. That'll make it even
when they didn't
49:41
John C Dvorak: send that report.
What you you you falsely
49:44
promoted Oh, I had the floods.
They didn't say what they said
49:47
some some parts for that. No,
no, no. I
49:50
Adam Curry: said that. They
tried to get the answer to this.
49:53
So they also
49:55
John C Dvorak: can't get the
answer except the parts I
49:57
Raytheon. Apparently scutts
should send Some stuff. So that
50:01
part's at the further end,
because nobody else is using
50:04
this, you know, these patriots
50:07
Adam Curry: this is. So this is
how I'm going to view this
50:10
conflict and what happens for
the next period of time. I mean,
50:15
I, I do not think this is going
to end swiftly, it's going to
50:20
expand, just like COVID. Just
like 911. Really, this is a
50:26
liquid liquidity event. And
we're in more need of it than
50:30
ever, I would say, I don't know
much about the public markets.
50:34
But I see the issue with
everyone going into bonds. All
50:39
of a sudden, by on Friday,
everything reversed the dollar
50:42
started. This is before this
attack happened. The dollar
50:45
reversed, the bond yields
started to go down stocks were
50:48
looking more attractive. All the
Fed presidents were coming out
50:51
egg economy's great,
everything's good, then this
50:54
happens. And for that we had a
little blip there where Oh,
50:58
everyone's all our stocks are
gonna go up. And I think today
51:00
it's down again. So we need
money. The military industrial
51:04
complex needs money. Right now
we're in a shutdown situation.
51:10
So they couldn't get the 24
billion they want it for
51:13
Ukraine, then I'm I'm I mean,
it's so obvious. So so obvious
51:19
that that how much money is
going to be created for this? I
51:23
don't think we have a war chest
per se. I don't think we have
51:26
anything. I mean, what we have
stuff for everybody.
51:30
John C Dvorak: Like that one
report said they got stockpiles
51:32
all over the world. Yeah. Well,
51:34
Adam Curry: we didn't have it
for Ukraine. But I think I
51:37
think, you know, we're gonna go
into money printing mode. And
51:40
the markets needed the banks
need it. It's hard. I'm so
51:43
happy. We don't have a cap on on
our honored on our national
51:47
debt. With that, that's
convenient that there's no
51:51
statutory debt at the moment, as
you know, no ceiling. And then
51:56
of course, even though I truly
believe this, truly, here's some
52:02
here's some disinformation that
came out. But actually falls
52:07
right, it leads it folds into
this topic of money for the
52:11
military industrial complex. So
going on whenever you see a clip
52:14
that is 12 or 15 seconds long.
That is an oh my god, I can't
52:19
believe it. You shouldn't show
that. Oh, my God, I can't
52:22
believe it clip that's been
going around is a Rear Admiral
52:25
Kirby of the the National
Security Council. Say, here's,
52:32
here's the headline on the
tweet, we're leaving you we're
52:36
gonna we're gonna step away from
Ukraine. No more funding for
52:40
Ukraine. Look here. He said
anything
52:42
Unknown: funny. We're, we're
coming near to the end of the
52:44
rope. I mean, today we announced
$200 million. And we'll keep
52:48
that aid going as long as we
can. But it's it's not going to
52:51
be indefinite. So
52:53
Adam Curry: it's not going to be
indefinite. Oh, no, that's it.
52:55
We're ending? We're ending
support for Ukraine? No, no, it
53:00
is quite the opposite. He is
pleading for more money for
53:03
everything. Here's the full
minute,
53:05
Unknown: can you provide us
anything on a timeline or give
53:08
us a sense of how quickly the US
would exhaust what it can
53:11
provide to Israel before
53:13
congressional actions and
existing authorities and
53:15
appropriations to support Israel
in the near term? And I got
53:20
asked last time, you know, what
is near term? Or what's a bit
53:23
mean? I, I can't give you a date
calendar, because a lot of it's
53:27
going to depend on their
expenditure rate, and what the
53:29
replenishment ability is, what
the need is and what our ability
53:32
to do it is. But in the near
term, we've we've got
53:36
appropriations and authorities
for both Ukraine and for Israel.
53:41
For both, you don't want to be
trying to bake in long term
53:45
support. When you're at the end
of the rope and the in Ukraine,
53:50
on the Ukraine funding. We're,
we're coming near to the end of
53:52
the rope. I mean, today we
announced $200 million. And
53:57
we'll keep that aid going as
long as we can. But it's it's
54:00
not going to be indefinite. So
are we moving with a sense of
54:02
alacrity? Absolutely. I couldn't
give you a date certain on the
54:05
calendar.
54:05
Adam Curry: So no, no, what he's
saying is not worth stepping
54:08
away from Ukraine. No, we're
doubling down. We need more for
54:11
Ukraine. We Yes.
54:13
John C Dvorak: Actually, the
point you made about if you see
54:16
a 15 second clip going around, I
see these all the time, and I'm
54:19
always trying to find the
original. Yeah. Which is what we
54:23
both do. But when you see
something like that going
54:25
around, yeah, it's taken out of
context to fool you. Yes. And
54:30
all you have to do is do a
little digging, and I don't know
54:33
why nobody, nobody but this show
seems to do that. So now let's
54:37
head it's really remarkable to
me since we only had 41 people
54:41
out of the almost million people
that listen to the show that
54:43
even bothered to contribute over
$50 for this particular show,
54:47
Adam Curry: you know, we could
we could turn the cameras on,
54:49
boasted here with headphones,
and then talk about the outrage
54:52
of the babies. And we're going
to bomb them though. Yeah, we'd
54:56
make twice we make twice as much
money if not more. So, two
55:01
theaters we're going to add to
this. We don't have to go too
55:05
deep into it. But you probably
heard about the pipeline, the
55:09
Finland gas pipeline. Well, it
looks like that was some
55:16
terrorism. Someone blew up that
pipeline. Of course, Finland is
55:20
a brand new NATO member, what
are the chances? So outcomes?
55:25
Jens Stoltenberg, the head
honcho of NATO was the Lensky
55:29
literally standing next to him
like a little boy. And here's
55:34
what yen says
55:35
Unknown: we will also address
the incident in the Baltic Sea,
55:40
with the damage caused to
critical undersea
55:45
infrastructure. I spoke with
Preston Salvini minister and
55:48
Prime Minister Carlos yesterday,
and we are in close contact
55:52
important thing now is to
establish what happened and how
55:56
this could happen. If it is
proven to be a deliberate attack
56:01
on a NATO critical
infrastructure, then this will
56:04
be of course serious, but it
will also be met by a united and
56:10
determined response from NATO
56:13
Adam Curry: Article Five because
was Finland is now a NATO
56:16
country. So if someone did
anything to that pipeline, Putin
56:20
if anyone did some of that
pipeline Oh, Article Five
56:24
response so we have
56:25
John C Dvorak: all a different
idea. What if it was Lewinsky's
56:29
boys the Ukrainians who did
something to that pipeline just
56:32
to stir things up? And we find
out that it was them do it? Does
56:36
NATO attack them now?
56:37
Adam Curry: Dream on Dream?
Dream on? No, we want more wars.
56:42
War is good for business. It's
good for business. And now the
56:47
final frontier besides sadly, I
think Lebanon is there's not
56:52
much to realize in Lebanon
anymore. But you know, I it's on
56:57
the west Clarke seven lists so
we'll just we'll just add it
57:00
there. That wouldn't take much.
57:01
John C Dvorak: I do have
actually a couple of clips
57:03
regarding the Hezbollah attack
from Lebanon. Let's do that.
57:07
Let's do that. This is habitable
attack at this is not what you
57:11
hear from any of our media.
Again, I have to go to Al
57:14
Jazeera English for this. This
is Hezbollah attack one
57:18
Unknown: of the Israeli army is
trying to calm fears after a
57:21
false alarms and people
nationwide scrambling for
57:24
shelter.
57:30
warning sirens rang out across
northern Israel and flares were
57:34
fired at the border. As people
across the country were told to
57:37
seek shelter over a possible
aerial infiltration from
57:41
Lebanon. The army now says the
Panic was caused by human error.
57:45
Only Hashem is in the town of
Nakota human error and Lebanon
57:49
near the border with Israel.
57:50
Today was a very hectic day. It
started with Hezbollah attack on
57:56
Israeli troops on the borders,
mainly in the HERA village on
58:02
the border line. According to
the pictures we saw from
58:06
Hezbollah, it seems that there
was a direct hit with guided
58:11
missiles. Now following that
Israeli assaulted shelling, the
58:16
villages surrounding the
borders, and there were two
58:20
people injured. Now, later on,
this alarm came and there were
58:25
these reports about planes,
paragliders crossing towards the
58:31
border. However, there was no
genuine reason to understand why
58:38
this alarm is coming out because
none of these product gliders
58:42
were seen with eyes. Also, at
the same time, these product
58:47
gliders, the alleged panic
gliders did not engage in a
58:52
battle or in the fight on the
ground. So later on, it was
58:56
clarified that this is not
right.
58:59
Adam Curry: This is interesting.
This paraglider thing paramotor
59:03
ultralight everyone's using
different words for it. It's
59:07
it's also a 911 throwback to
these guys couldn't even fly a
59:10
Cessna. And they flew these
planes into buildings. Oh, look,
59:14
they're coming over a little
paragliders and they're causing
59:17
havoc. It's all a just a
different verse. It's like a
59:21
reboot of cheers.
59:23
John C Dvorak: Whatever the case
is, the non existent paragliders
59:28
that part clipped to indicate
that the Israelis are actually
59:32
pounding the southern border of
Lebanon as we speak.
59:36
Unknown: However, the Israeli
army continued to launch fleurs
59:41
in the skies of South Lebanon,
also burning the bushes around
59:47
the borders in order to deny any
fighters. Kind of a cover just
59:53
in case they're trying to
infiltrate the border. So it was
59:57
a it was a hectic day for
Israel. The troops on the
1:00:00
Lebanese side and this clarified
the situation whereas the
1:00:05
tension is mounting day after
day. So, in comparison with
1:00:11
yesterday when rockets were
launched and hummus, Al Qassam
1:00:15
brigades claimed responsibility
or the day before where a group
1:00:19
from Islamic Jihad infiltrated
the borders and engage in a
1:00:22
battle with Israelis. Today was
the bigger day. And it seems
1:00:26
that this tension is going to
continue. It's not going to
1:00:29
stop. And at least from what I
understand this is going to
1:00:33
continue as far as the campaign
on Gaza is going to continue to
1:00:38
continue.
1:00:39
Adam Curry: Oh, man, peanuts.
This is the peanuts part in the
1:00:44
background. We need to slowly
ramp up Iran. This is the prize.
1:00:49
This is the big one. This is
what and it would be would it be
1:00:52
any better to have Israel attack
Iran with our weapons? We wish
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: that that would
have to be what that would have
1:01:02
to be it
1:01:02
Adam Curry: and the Washington
Post Robo WaPo has Iran on their
1:01:09
mind. So we had Chuck Schumer,
Senator Schumer went to talk to
1:01:13
President GE, as the
representative of the United
1:01:17
States, our president can't get
a meeting with him. So send the
1:01:21
next best thing. And so here's a
question from WaPo. Journal. He
1:01:25
asked a question about GE. But
he also asked he slips into
1:01:28
question about Iran, the answer
is somewhat surprising.
1:01:31
Unknown: Thank you very much.
Just following up on what you
1:01:32
just said. How did they respond
specifically on the point of
1:01:35
Iran? How did President Xi
respond on that? And more
1:01:38
broadly, if I could just ask a
broader question? Many analysts
1:01:43
cite a lack of trust between the
US and China as one of the
1:01:46
biggest stumbling blocks to
better ties between the
1:01:48
countries after meeting with
President Xi today, do you trust
1:01:52
him more or less than
1:01:53
let me just say this, both
sides, the Chinese and us said,
1:01:58
unless we have sincere
conversations about our
1:02:01
differences, and not pull any
punches, that we would never
1:02:06
solve these problems. And the
thing that I think we respected
1:02:09
is the Chinese leadership from
President Xi on down understood
1:02:13
that we were going to be strong
understood that we're going to
1:02:16
be tough, but also understood
that's a necessity if we're ever
1:02:19
going to improve the
relationship. On the first
1:02:22
question he listened.
1:02:24
Adam Curry: Now listen to to
Schumer not having the answer,
1:02:27
but his handlers giving him the
answer.
1:02:30
Unknown: I don't recall him
saying anything specific on it,
1:02:33
but he listened several times
deliver the message. Go ahead.
1:02:36
They said they would deliver the
message to the Iranians. Yes.
1:02:40
Adam Curry: Okay. Okay. They
said they would deliver the
1:02:43
message to the Iranians. So WaPo
has Iran in their sights WaPo, I
1:02:50
would say is compromised. They
just fire they just fired 10% of
1:02:54
their workforce. They fired 200
people for whatever reason.
1:02:58
There is a scandal brewing. The
Special Envoy to Iran from the
1:03:03
US State Department, Robert
Malley has kind of disappeared.
1:03:07
He was supposed to show up in
some hearings, and you know, he
1:03:11
couldn't make it and now he's
gone away, and we don't know
1:03:15
where he is. And oh, WaPo has
intercepted some emails and
1:03:21
communications between him one
of his fellow State Department
1:03:26
or former State Department
workers now at the Pentagon with
1:03:29
Iran. It turns out, we had an
Iranian spy in the State
1:03:35
Department. Remember, now
there's all this noise about
1:03:40
Donald Trump leaking the plans
to attack Iran? No, that's then
1:03:45
he had it and then someone else
had it and who knows who had it,
1:03:48
but WaPo and this has been going
on for a few weeks. No one's
1:03:51
really talking about it. This is
Michael Christianson. He's he
1:03:56
he's on bitchute. So you're no,
you're no, it's good. And he
1:04:01
gives us a brief overview of
what's happening with the
1:04:05
special envoy. And the spies.
The Iranian spies in the State
1:04:10
Department. Iran is bad
1:04:11
Unknown: right about the same
time Malley was under suspicion.
1:04:14
Wow. Sensitive US government
documents started showing up in
1:04:19
Iran state media, so our top
Iran guide disappears for
1:04:23
mishandling classified
information and classified
1:04:26
information starts showing up in
Iranian government hands. It's
1:04:30
not hard to deduce what happened
here. But this new report adds
1:04:34
detail Robert Malley wasn't
really our top Iran guy. He was
1:04:39
actually a Ron's top America
guy. According to the report in
1:04:42
the emails It cites Robert
Malley was funding supporting
1:04:46
and directing an Iranian
intelligence operation designed
1:04:49
to influence the United States.
This project was called the
1:04:53
Iranian experts initiative. So
the experts strike again through
1:04:57
it. The Iranian government was
recruiting Western academics,
1:05:01
meeting them abroad to receive
their loyalty and issue
1:05:05
directions for how to influence
the US government. Though of
1:05:08
course eventually it wasn't just
influence that Robert Malley
1:05:11
achieved at the State
Department. It was a job at the
1:05:15
highest level crafting Iran
policy and Robert Malley brought
1:05:19
his Iranian experts initiative
friends to the administration to
1:05:23
so while Malley is now
officially out on leave, there's
1:05:26
still at least one more in a
high level position. Who isn't
1:05:30
the emails in the report show a
woman named Aryan Tabata by is
1:05:34
also a part of this Iranian
influence network who is Tabata
1:05:37
by Well, she's a person Robert
Malley, personally brought into
1:05:41
Biden's administration. She was
first at the State Department.
1:05:45
She was a diplomat on Melis iran
nuclear negotiation team under
1:05:48
Biden, and now she works at the
Pentagon, where she's currently
1:05:52
the Chief of Staff for the
Assistant Secretary of Defense
1:05:56
for special operations. So not
only did she negotiate with
1:05:59
hostels while being part of a
propaganda network for those
1:06:03
hostels, she's now working with
our SpecOps who of course,
1:06:07
handle our most risky and
difficult military operations
1:06:10
should any heightened conflict
arise, emails were covered by
1:06:14
the Wall Street Journal
reporters showed Tabata by
1:06:16
consulting with and seeking
advice from Iran's foreign
1:06:20
ministry before attending policy
events. Before she gave
1:06:23
congressional testimony in 2014.
She asked an Iranian official
1:06:27
for advice on how to deal with
other witnesses, who are Iran
1:06:31
critics, she sent in a run
sympathetic article she
1:06:34
published in The Boston Globe to
this Iranian official for praise
1:06:38
and recognition. And also in
these emails. The Iranian
1:06:41
government was very pleased with
the results of their project.
1:06:46
Adam Curry: So if you want
something to crack open view,
1:06:48
call your friends at WaPo it's
coming to the it's coming up.
1:06:52
It's gonna bubble up. We've got
Mohamed de F. I guarantee you
1:06:56
he'll show up in Iran. Oh, yeah.
We found him we are smoke them
1:07:00
out.
1:07:02
John C Dvorak: The whole thing
of these people go back to the
1:07:05
to the very middle east centric
Obama administration. And yeah,
1:07:14
this spy network is quite funny.
It's it was written up in a
1:07:18
couple of different places.
Nobody knows quite what to make
1:07:22
of it.
1:07:25
Adam Curry: Don't worry, it'll
it'll be twisted into something.
1:07:29
But it's Iran is bad. Iran,
Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, let
1:07:32
Israel do it. It all has to
leave everyone saying it. Every
1:07:36
report. The anti Defamation
League, obviously Iran,
1:07:40
Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas. Iran is
all around. We've got to go out
1:07:44
we got to go with the route
swung out. The one eyed one
1:07:49
legged guy who planned it all
he's in Iran, you can just wait
1:07:52
for it.
1:07:52
John C Dvorak: Wait, if that
happens, I'm gonna give you 10
1:07:54
points because that would be
ideal. We should also meet the
1:08:00
whole thing's a scam.
1:08:01
Adam Curry: Well, this is what I
believe is it's a scam the
1:08:04
military industrial complex.
It's for politics. It's being
1:08:09
used for is getting all of the
bad news off of the front line.
1:08:13
Even the bad news about you the
Ukraine conflict. Everything is
1:08:19
just off the table. Don't worry
about it. I was
1:08:21
John C Dvorak: hooked by this by
the way. As you can tell by my
1:08:24
clips. There was no way of
getting any other news except
1:08:30
this story clip custodian
1:08:33
Adam Curry: sent me his normal
batch is like it's all Israel.
1:08:38
John C Dvorak: I did get some of
the stories. I mean, a few of
1:08:41
them here and there, but they're
all They're all minor. Well,
1:08:44
there's one. There's one other
thing about the hunter Biden's
1:08:47
This is the real kicker to me is
the hunter Biden's all of a
1:08:50
sudden completely opted out. Of
course,
1:08:53
Adam Curry: of course, you're
he's back to smoking crack and
1:08:55
hookers is all it was, Oh, good.
Good for him. So now this is
1:09:00
also a perfect opportunity to
enact and try out some of the
1:09:06
new regulation in the European
Union DSA, the digital services
1:09:11
agreement. Which Well, it's
actually in this report. But
1:09:17
spoiler alert, if if you find if
you're a platform and you find
1:09:22
hate speech, or disinformation,
you have to remove it
1:09:27
immediately. letters went out
letters went out to Elon Musk
1:09:30
letters went out to Mark
Zuckerberg there's bad things on
1:09:33
your platform that will not
stand in the European Union. As
1:09:36
violence
1:09:37
Unknown: rages in Israel and
Gaza sued as fake news on social
1:09:40
media. The US making urgent
appeal to big tech, in a letter
1:09:45
addressed and met a CEO Mark
Zuckerberg on Wednesday. Anyway,
1:09:49
it's on the blocks industry
chief urged the platform to do
1:09:51
more to curb disinformation or
face penalties curb it comes a
1:09:56
day after Viton made a similar
call to ex owner Elon Musk As
1:10:00
the source of the war social
media networks have been awash
1:10:03
with graphic images and
misinformation linked to the
1:10:05
violence, the fact checkers at
Frost 24 They've been debunking
1:10:09
some of the forces under the
aegis Digital Services Act, and
1:10:13
our social media platforms like
x are obliged to stop the spread
1:10:17
of harmful content, or face
fines of up to 6% of their
1:10:20
annual global revenue. Instead,
experts say that x is algorithm
1:10:24
is actively promoting
disinformation on the Israel
1:10:27
Hamas war. Favoring posts by
accounts that pay for its blue
1:10:31
check subscription service,
regardless of who runs them.
1:10:34
Users can receive payments under
the scheme, giving them more
1:10:38
incentive to publish posts that
are unlikely to elicit strong
1:10:41
reactions and go viral.
1:10:42
On a request for a comment made
by CNBC a meta spokesperson,
1:10:46
spokesperson said we quickly
established a special operations
1:10:50
center staffed with experts
including fluent Hebrew and
1:10:52
Arabic speakers to monitor and
respond to this rapidly evolving
1:10:56
situation. Our teams are working
around the clock to keep our
1:11:00
platforms safe, take action on
content that violates our
1:11:03
policies or local law and
coordinate with third party fact
1:11:07
checkers in the region factual
information. And there was also
1:11:11
a statement by ex CEO Linda
Yakko. Reno shortly just a few
1:11:17
minutes ago, saying that shortly
after the news broke about Hamas
1:11:20
attack X assembled leadership, a
leadership group to assess the
1:11:24
situation. Since the terrorist
attack on Israel, we've taken
1:11:28
action to remove or label 10s of
1000s of pieces of content. So
1:11:33
far since the start of the
conflicts ex says it has
1:11:36
identified and removed hundreds
of Hamas affiliated accounts
1:11:39
from their platform.
1:11:40
Adam Curry: Oh, of course, only
Hamas has disinformation, we go
1:11:44
to our DSA dashboard. Last time
we checked in with the DSA, the
1:11:49
Digital Services Act. We had
about 67,000 takedowns an hour.
1:11:57
Do you care to wager what it's
up to now? Joe? Quarter of a
1:12:03
million now not quite 137,630.
Now 137,630? Yes, there we go.
1:12:13
per hour, over five hour per
hour? Over 5 million takedowns a
1:12:20
day.
1:12:22
John C Dvorak: Others taking
everything down?
1:12:25
Adam Curry: My point? Exactly.
So what you are seeing is only
1:12:29
approved. It's only approved
narrative. I think we can we can
1:12:36
easily presume that. So you're
not getting anything from social
1:12:41
media.
1:12:42
John C Dvorak: You're getting
nothing from the sounds of it.
1:12:43
If you're taking down 100 A
quarter well, not a quarter of a
1:12:48
million to a million per hour.
That's a lot of posts. That
1:12:54
means every eight hours a
million posts are taken down.
1:12:57
It's a million posts a lot. It's
an it's an eight hours and yet
1:13:02
24 hours is three. That's you
know, it's 3 million a day. It's
1:13:07
ridiculous. Yeah. I know. So
there too, so it has to be willy
1:13:15
nilly. Your way? Well, no,
1:13:18
Adam Curry: it's it's it's
complaint from the government
1:13:21
take it down. Okay. Nothing has
changed. Nothing has changed.
1:13:27
The I just I'd say the the
agents are still inside of x.
1:13:32
And everywhere else. Platforms
are no good. Although I do like
1:13:37
kind of the insinuation that,
that x is the worst because they
1:13:41
pay people with blue checkmarks
for for posts. If you know
1:13:46
that's the Yeah, the Twitter X
1:13:50
John C Dvorak: payments, pave
eight bucks and you get a blue
1:13:53
checkmark.
1:13:53
Adam Curry: Yeah, but no, but
then you can join their
1:13:56
monetization program. And yeah,
if you get people commenting on
1:14:00
your post, and they're able to
sell ads, boom, you get some
1:14:04
money.
1:14:05
John C Dvorak: I'm doing it
1:14:12
Adam Curry: that tell me this
isn't an old story, just talking
1:14:15
about big tech for a second.
Somehow I feel like this story
1:14:19
we've heard I couldn't find a
clip but we've heard it before
1:14:21
Unknown: Amazon's Alexa has
apparently been claiming the
1:14:24
2020 presidential election was
stolen. The voice assistants
1:14:29
cites various sources when
answering questions about the
1:14:32
election, including from a video
streaming service popular with
1:14:35
conservatives called rumble.
multiple investigations
1:14:39
uncovered no evidence of
election fraud and Amazon says
1:14:42
for their part responses were
errors delivered a small number
1:14:46
of times and quickly
1:14:47
fixed.
1:14:49
Adam Curry: Why do I think I've
heard this
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: story before I
never heard this story before.
1:14:54
Adam Curry: I'm used to it must
be must be.
1:14:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you really
have a memory for this and so
1:14:59
you should Have it maybe it
floated arrive I was
1:15:02
Adam Curry: looking for a clip I
could not find a clip. I do have
1:15:05
a couple quick big tech things
unless you want to stay in in
1:15:08
the region.
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: We'll get to
Hizbollah tap run down
1:15:13
Adam Curry: the region are we
still stuck in the real region
1:15:15
the region in the region?
1:15:17
John C Dvorak: West Bank killing
so this is kind of interesting
1:15:20
here. There's a shooting people
in the West Bank, which got
1:15:22
nothing to do with Gaza. But
okay. Where is it? It's just
1:15:29
war. West Bank.
1:15:33
Unknown: More Israeli settlers
have killed at least four
1:15:35
Palestinians and attacks on the
village south of Nablus in the
1:15:39
occupied West Bank. The
Palestinian health ministry says
1:15:42
Israeli forces have also killed
a 16 year old boy near Hebron.
1:15:46
29 Palestinians have been killed
in the occupied West Bank since
1:15:50
the war began on Saturday.
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was gonna
body. The other one as I want to
1:15:58
play this. This is a protest for
Palestinians in the EU and how
1:16:01
it kind of contrast with what
we're doing here in the United
1:16:04
States.
1:16:05
Unknown: But French police in
the city of Leon used force to
1:16:08
break up a demonstration in
support of Palestinians on
1:16:11
Wednesday. It comes after a
decision by city officials to
1:16:14
ban gatherings local activists
had planned for later in the
1:16:17
week. Authorities in Paris have
also imposed prohibitions on pro
1:16:21
Palestinian marches. French
President Emmanuel Macron has
1:16:25
condemned Hamas as attack on
Israel, but opposes stopping the
1:16:29
European Union's humanitarian
assistance to Palestinians. Pro
1:16:34
Palestinian demonstrations have
also been taking place in the
1:16:37
German capital Berlin with a
large police presence. Melissa
1:16:42
Chan has more.
1:16:43
Police have just told everyone
in the area to disperse they
1:16:46
have banned all Palestinian
solidarity protests over the
1:16:50
next few days. Particularly in
Germany, this is a touchy
1:16:55
subject because of the history
of the country, the history of
1:16:58
World War Two and the Nazis the
Holocaust, which means that the
1:17:01
German government and the German
people, many of them consider
1:17:04
something as simple as waving
the Palestinian flag as anti
1:17:08
semitic.
1:17:09
Just you know, this is always
the flag and all German
1:17:15
arguments to denounce and
actually persecute Palestinian
1:17:19
voices for the rights in
Palestine
1:17:22
also have the right to do
whatever they want. They have
1:17:25
been paying for 75 years and
that's not okay.
1:17:28
Now over the next few days,
emotions are going to run high.
1:17:30
There's also a big Israeli
community here. And police say
1:17:34
one reason why they're banning
protests is to prevent the two
1:17:36
sides from clashing. Melissa
Chan, Al Jazeera
1:17:39
Adam Curry: Berlin. It's all
it's all meant to Trump to
1:17:42
trigger trauma. And when
1:17:44
John C Dvorak: you're done that
was your basic thesis and I
1:17:46
think you're ready. One last
clip for this kind of thing.
1:17:49
There's the Democrats no support
for Israel. Just from New Tang
1:17:52
Dynasty,
1:17:53
Unknown: some Democrats for your
support for Israel among their
1:17:56
party might be waning. This
comes as some lawmakers voiced
1:17:59
support for Palestine while
others are distancing
1:18:02
themselves.
1:18:06
Some Democrats reportedly fear
that members of their party
1:18:09
might stop supporting Israel
sentiments in the US in the past
1:18:13
few days since the attacks were
mostly pro Israel, however, that
1:18:17
might change. One unnamed
Democratic lawmaker told
1:18:21
Politico for the last couple of
days, we've seen all the
1:18:24
pictures of girls who were
killed at this festival and the
1:18:27
children. The lawmaker says this
will change now as the counter
1:18:30
offensive begins.
1:18:32
Adam Curry: Have you actually
I've been honest, it is part of
1:18:35
research. I have looked Have you
seen a lot of people killed at
1:18:38
the festival? I'm not disputing
it. But have we actually seen
1:18:42
that I've seen
1:18:43
John C Dvorak: there's once
there's one telegraph telegram
1:18:47
site that has all these
pictures, it's it's pretty
1:18:50
elaborate, and it does hundreds
and hundreds of pictures. But
1:18:53
specifically from that festival
No, no, I've not seen anything
1:18:57
either.
1:18:57
Adam Curry: Because they just
reported that they've that
1:19:00
they've seen that. And it's you
know, it's like the base. Yeah,
1:19:04
I'm not disputing it, but but I
have not seen the pictures. And
1:19:07
you and the newsletter you sent
out was, but it was on point. It
1:19:12
will might
1:19:12
John C Dvorak: lie. I played up
to the bullshit pictures and
1:19:17
somebody sent me I did get a
note for somebody regarding that
1:19:20
girl that they kept showing over
and over and over again to being
1:19:23
taken out of the back of a jeep
and then being put in the front
1:19:26
of the Jeep
1:19:27
Adam Curry: which which which I
saw MSNBC claiming she was raped
1:19:32
and she was bleeding like you
have no evidence of that I when
1:19:35
I saw that first and I'm sorry
that you know to bring up this
1:19:38
is traumatic to see it. It to me
it looked like someone who
1:19:41
crapped their pants because they
were so terrified. That's what
1:19:44
it looked like to me or any
other many reasons but it was
1:19:49
presented as so
1:19:50
John C Dvorak: she could have
been sitting in blood to foil
1:19:52
you know, it was presented as
fact. No, and then they had this
1:19:56
guy who seemed to be in
blackface for some reason. He
1:20:01
shoots a gun in the air, pulls
her out of the back yells. Akbar
1:20:06
shoots a gun and then puts her
in the in the seat in the comfy
1:20:10
seat. I mean, what was the point
of this? And somebody sent a
1:20:14
note and saying this was a great
news. This is low budget
1:20:17
filmmaking. He says it only cost
them one bullet, you know, and a
1:20:21
day's pay for that a borrowed
jeep. I mean, it's just it was
1:20:25
really kind of crummy.
1:20:28
Adam Curry: I can hear keyboards
clicking don't send that email
1:20:31
to us. We're just we're just
we're just looking at media and
1:20:35
trying to understand what the
messaging is. Not we're not here
1:20:39
to bring you the truth of what
actually happened. We don't have
1:20:43
it. Nobody does. Exactly. That's
the point. But it's being
1:20:47
presented as fact. We'll
continue with your clip here.
1:20:50
Unknown: The only images we're
going to see for the next couple
1:20:53
of weeks are dead Palestinians.
Earlier this year, a Gallup poll
1:20:57
found that Democrats opinions on
Israel have changed
1:20:59
significantly. 49% of Democrats
now say they sympathize more
1:21:03
with Palestine, while only 38%
say they sympathize more with
1:21:07
Israel. That's the first time
more Democrats have said their
1:21:10
sympathies are more with
Palestine than with Israel. In
1:21:13
the 20 years the poll has been
conducted. Another Democratic
1:21:16
lawmaker told Politico the key
is making sure that the
1:21:19
sentiment doesn't grow and
metastasize. Meanwhile,
1:21:23
Democratic Representative
Rashida to leave is still flying
1:21:26
the Palestinian flag in front of
her office, Republican
1:21:29
Congressman Max Miller commented
on that saying the Palestinian
1:21:33
flag should not have a place
here. That's why I sponsored an
1:21:36
appropriations amendment to end
this silliness under the
1:21:40
amendment foreign flags couldn't
be displayed on Capitol Hill
1:21:44
Adam Curry: no only pride flags,
no problem with it the
1:21:48
John C Dvorak: same thing when I
heard that, but they you know,
1:21:50
there's a little element here
that was kind of not noticed by
1:21:55
anybody else, which is this this
idea that they've been pulling
1:21:58
Democrats, and now the sympathy
for the Israelis is down to 39%
1:22:03
and a sympathy for the
Palestinians up to 49% This is a
1:22:07
switcheroo. And this may be part
of the of the reason to do we're
1:22:13
going to bomb Iran. We got to do
it now. Because this is not
1:22:17
going to go the it's not going
to reverse direction. Yes, it's
1:22:23
clear trend.
1:22:24
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's, that's
a good. You know, what also is
1:22:30
interesting with all these
takedowns of misinformation. How
1:22:34
is it that I'm sure you've seen
her? I didn't clip her. There's
1:22:37
the Israeli blonde Israeli
woman, about 3540. Now must she
1:22:42
must be over 40 Who says 25
years ago, she was you know, in
1:22:48
service, she was specifically of
course, all young people go into
1:22:52
service in Israel. Then she was
in the intelligence division.
1:22:56
And she's just she's she's doing
video after video. After a video
1:23:00
about how this couldn't happen.
There's no way this was a setup.
1:23:04
This could never happen when she
brought in the cat thing again.
1:23:07
Like you can you can sense a
cat. You've got Brett Weinstein
1:23:13
interviewing her but yet she's
allowed to continue explain
1:23:19
that. If she knows this
information, why why is she
1:23:24
still on the air?
1:23:26
John C Dvorak: Just someone you
would take off just because
1:23:30
Adam Curry: so yeah, and so that
she just continues so you cannot
1:23:35
trust your social media.
1:23:36
John C Dvorak: Now the media
social media. Tell it that all
1:23:42
media Yeah,
1:23:42
Adam Curry: but but people often
are still like, oh, I can still
1:23:46
get all this on social media.
Look, I got the proof. Telegram.
1:23:49
Wow, it's proof do you remember
Yanis Varoufakis Oh, yeah,
1:23:58
whatever
1:23:58
John C Dvorak: happened to him?
Well, he has a really good to
1:24:02
tell you about bringing up an
old name yes. Yeah, it was one
1:24:05
of the first guys who was pushed
to the curb kicked to the curb.
1:24:08
So this is
1:24:09
Adam Curry: when Greece was
taken down by the US banks was a
1:24:13
Goldman and a couple others
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they the
guy in the motorcycle Yes.
1:24:21
Remember it's not to get it's
not the gay social media guy.
1:24:24
Another guy disappeared.
1:24:27
Unknown: You're thinking of the
case.
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: Was that guy's
name? It wasn't conservative
1:24:34
with the blonde Yeah, but social
media guy got kicked to the curb
1:24:37
that guy No, this is he was
rough and tumble leather wearing
1:24:42
bike riding American I think you
1:24:46
Adam Curry: know history. He's
Greek mile. You're thinking of
1:24:48
Yo yo,
1:24:50
John C Dvorak: Milo now that did
this. This great guy ended up at
1:24:53
the University of Texas I think
tape teaching economics, Disney
1:24:56
Adam Curry: while he's an
economics. He's an economist
1:24:59
economics. Feser and when Greek
Greece was being thrust into
1:25:05
austerity, and we covered all
this 2010, I want to say, so
1:25:08
it's quite a while ago. And the
Greeks, they, what happened is,
1:25:14
the bank said, Hey, we're
calling in our loan, how you can
1:25:17
pay for it, austerity for you.
And all of the Northern Europe
1:25:21
hated
1:25:22
John C Dvorak: this. This was
right after the Greeks decided
1:25:25
to join the Euros, which is
their biggest mistake.
1:25:29
Adam Curry: And people even go
into Greek restaurants in like
1:25:33
Holland and say, I'm not paying,
because you screwed us. You
1:25:36
stole our money. It was
horrible. So then this guy who
1:25:40
and he's a, he's a Marxist, he
admits his I'm a socialist, I'm
1:25:43
a Marxist. But he called he
says, in the traditional sense
1:25:46
of the word, whatever that
means, whatever that means. And
1:25:49
he became the minister of
finance for six months. And all
1:25:54
he did is he just said, no, no
more loans. We're not taking any
1:25:57
more loans, which was probably a
good thing for Greece. And then
1:26:01
his party got kicked out and he
got kicked out and get kicked
1:26:04
out. And, and now, you know, all
the wealth is in the north in
1:26:08
the south of Greece. They're
driving around and Lamborghinis.
1:26:11
And the rest of Greece is just
crap. What you get, that's how
1:26:15
it works. They are the ugly
stepchild. So Yiannis resurfaces
1:26:21
with a very interesting book
I've been reading called techno
1:26:24
feudalism. And it kind of folds
into, you know, these platforms.
1:26:29
And he says that capitalism is
in essence, over, because
1:26:36
capitalism is now slave to cloud
capitalism. And that is all
1:26:42
Silicon Valley based, that does
not exist anywhere else except
1:26:46
China. China does have WeChat,
that is the big, the big
1:26:51
competitor to the cloud
capitalists here in the US. And
1:26:55
he has a one minute. He's doing
interviews all over YouTube. And
1:26:59
I've been fascinated by a lot of
what he's saying, I don't agree
1:27:02
with all of it, of course. But
this idea, this concept was
1:27:06
something I think we should, we
should think about as we see the
1:27:10
world unfold, certainly with
secret meetings about AI and all
1:27:14
that crap.
1:27:15
Unknown: But what does happen
is, if you're Jeff Bezos, if you
1:27:18
are the owner of Google, of
Apple, of if you're Elon Musk,
1:27:23
then you own this new form of
cloud capital, which allows you
1:27:29
to extract from the rest of
society from proletarians. But
1:27:34
from everyone else, as well,
huge quantities of rents and
1:27:38
surpluses in a manner that
reconsidered is a form of
1:27:43
feudalism. The difference is
that instead of the original
1:27:47
feudalism, which is a system
based on private ownership of
1:27:51
land, which produces rent, now,
it's private ownership of the
1:27:55
clouds of cloud capital, because
the cloud is capital, right?
1:27:58
It's not some clouds up in the
sky in the sky, which yields
1:28:01
again, a form of rent every time
you buy something from
1:28:03
amazon.com 40% of what you pay,
doesn't go to the capitalist, we
1:28:09
selling you that stuff. It goes
to Jeff Bezos, that's a cloud
1:28:11
rent and he is a new form of
feudal lord.
1:28:15
I kind of agree with that. Yeah,
1:28:18
John C Dvorak: well, I sure
don't, you don't know. It all
1:28:22
goes to Jeff Bezos off.
1:28:24
Adam Curry: I mean, to me, of
course, is not the Bezos but he
1:28:26
said it's a public company. But
But Amazon, you know that people
1:28:31
have a very hard time really
making profit on Amazon. The
1:28:35
same thing for Apple, if you
want to sell an app 30% You want
1:28:38
a subscription of something? 30%
This is why you can't buy a
1:28:41
Kindle through the app. on
Apple, they are charging rents
1:28:46
for their platforms. It's true.
1:28:50
John C Dvorak: It's not saying
that that's not true.
1:28:52
Adam Curry: Forget about the
beat down. That's just it's like
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: minor. I mean,
it's like it's like one element
1:28:59
of the DIS stamp. So this whole
idea of what does he call it
1:29:02
kind of capitalism, techno
feudalism, techno feudalism that
1:29:08
this harkens back to the book
called surveillance capitalism
1:29:13
was different little different.
I don't think it's that much
1:29:16
different. It was it's the same
kind of condemnation of tech,
1:29:20
from a perspective of like,
well, these guys have made the
1:29:23
money that I didn't get to make.
It's just kind of a jealous
1:29:26
mode. Dang, I'm not buying any
of it.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: I think Spotify
tried to do this with
1:29:34
podcasting.
1:29:35
John C Dvorak: And that's where
they got so far they got, but
1:29:38
that's because of
1:29:39
Adam Curry: one special thing.
The ragtag band of developers at
1:29:43
podcast index. We wanted their
plan single.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: How much effort
did it take to thwart their
1:29:52
plan? Not much.
1:29:55
Adam Curry: Work. Google
inherited
1:29:57
John C Dvorak: the billions that
those guys dropped. Google was
1:30:00
Not much. And
1:30:01
Adam Curry: that's only well,
because of RSS. Google is still
1:30:03
trying. They're trying to try
and keep trying to talk
1:30:06
everybody into into YouTube.
1:30:09
John C Dvorak: This is another
anti capitalist screed
1:30:12
definitely heard it before, from
a different angle.
1:30:19
Adam Curry: Anyway, just one
quick. So my feeling in general
1:30:24
is that this is what somebody
wants to try and do with AI. And
1:30:29
I've listened to the whole
interview with Sam Altman and
1:30:33
Joe Rogan. Sam Altman is full of
crap. All he says is just AGI it
1:30:40
will probably be about, you
know, three decades. Oh, okay.
1:30:44
Well, we're once Yeah, it's just
they'd be a 30 years we might
1:30:47
have autonomous generative AI,
you know, we'll have
1:30:54
John C Dvorak: getting closer to
the truth,
1:30:55
Adam Curry: but even then, I
mean, it's like, no, none of
1:31:00
this is happening now. It's all
bull.
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: Well, let me
bring us to real bullshit
1:31:05
artists. Please. You have to go
into the last week's archives to
1:31:10
get three clips.
1:31:11
Adam Curry: Is it under
bullshit? No,
1:31:14
John C Dvorak: this should be no
This is Maria. ReSSA
1:31:17
Adam Curry: okay. Oh, yes. on
PBS. Oh, you got a three parter.
1:31:22
I'm excited.
1:31:24
John C Dvorak: If you want to
hear somebody who doesn't know
1:31:26
what they're talking about,
1:31:28
Adam Curry: this is PBS. This is
great. I love the going on with
1:31:31
that
1:31:31
John C Dvorak: black the new
black anchor that's there who's
1:31:34
just seems like a dummy is this
seems I was gay or the guy.
1:31:40
Yeah, that guy seems like a dumb
gay guy to me.
1:31:43
Adam Curry: And I couldn't be
there the worst John said.
1:31:47
John C Dvorak: They're the
worst. It's a smart gay guys. So
1:31:53
this guy's lapping it up. And as
you can see it in his eyes. He's
1:31:57
got this look of Oh my God. Oh,
we're all gonna die.
1:32:00
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on. Let's
let's make sure we have America.
1:32:05
This is NPR or PBS
1:32:08
Unknown: veteran journalist and
past Nobel Peace Prize winner
1:32:11
Maria ReSSA has a dire warning
about the defense of truth in
1:32:15
the digital age. She says we
risk losing the information war
1:32:19
to adversarial artificial
intelligence and to
1:32:22
authoritarian governments who
can weaponize that technology.
1:32:25
And she's experienced it
firsthand. In 2021, she won the
1:32:29
Nobel Prize for fighting to
protect freedom of expression in
1:32:32
the Philippines under attack by
the regime of then President
1:32:35
Rodrigo de terre Tae Jeff
Bennett spoke with rest of this
1:32:38
week at the inaugural summit of
the newly launched Institute of
1:32:41
global politics at Columbia
University.
1:32:44
Reesa. Thank you so much for
speaking with us. I appreciate
1:32:47
it. Thanks for having you have
said the world faces a tech
1:32:49
enabled Armageddon turbocharged
by generative artificial
1:32:53
intelligence. Invoking
Armageddon sort of the final
1:32:56
battle between good and evil
might strike some people as a,
1:33:00
as an overreach, it might strike
some people as being hyperbolic.
1:33:04
But why in your view, is that an
accurate characterization?
1:33:07
I've lived through this. You
know, I never thought I would
1:33:10
get 10 Arrest warrants in a
little over a year, right? I
1:33:13
never thought I would have to go
to jail. I never thought that we
1:33:16
would tear apart our shared
reality and doubt facts, and the
1:33:21
lies could spread faster than
facts. MIT's 2018 Study shows
1:33:26
lie spread six times faster. And
that has turned everything
1:33:30
upside down. Tech enabled
Armageddon, and Rappler the
1:33:33
organization I read in the
Philippines we've been fighting
1:33:35
for our survival since 2016.
1:33:38
Adam Curry: Now Wayman, did she
get arrested by an AI that he
1:33:43
John C Dvorak: liked that make
you believe that no, she got
1:33:45
arrested because she was a
dissident in in the turkey under
1:33:49
the turret day when he was
running things and he was like,
1:33:51
putting everyone in jail and so
she got arrested and fought the
1:33:54
government or something and he
gets ended up here he's gone. So
1:33:58
she said okay, well Nobel Peace
Prize for being a do gooder. And
1:34:02
now she's an expert on AI with
no tech background whatsoever.
1:34:06
So what
1:34:07
Adam Curry: she's doing is she's
equating AI with a with a
1:34:11
dictator. Yeah, who makes
unintelligent decisions?
1:34:17
John C Dvorak: I guess.
1:34:18
Unknown: The fact that we were
still
1:34:21
John C Dvorak: not you brought
that up. Why is she on this
1:34:24
show? being interviewed by PBS
breathlessly that's what I'd
1:34:28
like to know. Oh, come on. An
expert.
1:34:31
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter. Who
isn't. Who is the expert on AI?
1:34:36
Elon, well, she's not they can't
get Elon Musk. Sam Altman. He's
1:34:40
boring. He's boring. Well, this
1:34:43
John C Dvorak: girl is kind of
boring.
1:34:44
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah,
yeah, here we go.
1:34:46
Unknown: The fact that we were
still here shows you that doing
1:34:50
the right thing is the right
thing. But it's going to get
1:34:55
worse. So the first time that
you had,
1:34:58
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, the
revenue ation of doing the right
1:35:01
thing is the right thing. It is
the right
1:35:03
John C Dvorak: thing, and it's
gonna get worse. You bet
1:35:05
Unknown: it's going to get
worse. So the
1:35:09
John C Dvorak: not You bet.
1:35:10
Adam Curry: Oh, I cannot believe
it. The jury will disregard my
1:35:17
bet it's Yep. Yep, had
1:35:18
Unknown: humanity con. First
contact with AI is really
1:35:22
machine learning when everything
that you post on social media.
1:35:25
So this is social media, right?
Everything you post is pulled
1:35:28
together by machine learning.
And then that's used to build a
1:35:31
model of you that knows you
better than you know yourself.
1:35:34
Replace the word model with
clone. So we're cloned, then AI
1:35:38
comes in and takes all of our
clones, puts it together in a
1:35:42
mother lode database. That's
what's used to my does Oracle
1:35:45
Adam Curry: make that the mother
lode database is that I think
1:35:49
mother lode database
1:35:50
John C Dvorak: is a great name
for a product.
1:35:54
Adam Curry: You've heard of Ms.
SQL, this is the mother lode
1:35:57
database, puts it together
1:35:59
Unknown: in a mother lode
database, that's what's used to
1:36:02
micro target. micro targeting is
not the same as media
1:36:06
advertising,
1:36:07
Adam Curry: that she's literally
describing data brokers, it
1:36:10
already exists, lady, it's not
AI,
1:36:12
Unknown: media advertising, you
see the same things, right? But
1:36:15
micro targeting sells your
weakest moment to a message to
1:36:19
someone who will pay for it. And
that could be a company or that
1:36:23
could be a government. Right?
Right? That right? Not just you.
1:36:26
And when it becomes relentless,
it becomes Information
1:36:31
Operations. Those
vulnerabilities in the tech
1:36:35
platforms have been exploited by
geopolitical power your America
1:36:40
in 20 1600 26 million Americans
were impacted were touch by
1:36:46
Russia, Russia and information
works.
1:36:51
Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, my
goodness, this is all these
1:36:57
platforms are gonna suck.
Everything's gonna suck.
1:37:02
mastered
1:37:03
John C Dvorak: the idea of micro
targeting, which is you know,
1:37:06
targeted advertising. Hello, 98
Hello, right Hello 1970 For that
1:37:12
matter way I first
1:37:13
Adam Curry: I'm gonna get my
milk is going to be ordered the
1:37:15
minutes out in my fridge, it's
going to be so smart the world
1:37:18
would be groovy micro targeting.
1:37:22
John C Dvorak: So she's bringing
this back to the 2022 era. And
1:37:27
it's just unbelievable to me
that this is being played on.
1:37:31
PBS should be ashamed of itself.
For letting this woman ramble
1:37:35
like this. She's not saying
anything that means anything.
1:37:38
This is all bullshit.
1:37:40
Unknown: You know, there are US
officials, there are tech
1:37:42
leaders who have said that the
future of this country looks
1:37:46
fairly bleak if China finds a
way to develop AI technology
1:37:50
faster than we do. So how do we
on the one hand, continue to
1:37:54
innovate, but on the other hand,
implement solutions that don't
1:37:59
strangle the innovation that
we're trying to unleash.
1:38:02
Ironically, China, which is far
from Democratic, has put
1:38:07
guardrails in place around that.
Yes. And they're large language
1:38:11
models, right? Right. While
America says that
1:38:14
Adam Curry: just just to say, on
their large language models,
1:38:18
right, it's like telling me, we
all agree, China has large
1:38:22
language models, they put it
1:38:24
John C Dvorak: down and they put
guard rails around it in the
1:38:26
mother lode. Now, a journalist
would be sitting there would
1:38:31
say, Well, what specifically are
those guardrails and how do they
1:38:34
work?
1:38:36
Adam Curry: What are you You
don't think that that's going to
1:38:38
come out of PBS as a question to
you.
1:38:41
John C Dvorak: I think at some
in some future world maybe
1:38:46
Adam Curry: this we need to
write we asked world breed need
1:38:49
a list of all these AI bullcrap
words that Sam Alban,
1:38:53
guardrails, guardrails? Yeah,
like the guard rails guard
1:38:56
rails? Yeah, guard rails, they
really were. Yeah, that's a good
1:38:59
point. What are the guard rails?
1:39:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are
they and how do they work?
1:39:04
Because it doesn't make sense to
even say that.
1:39:09
Unknown: has put guard rails in
place around that, right? Yes,
1:39:12
yeah. On their large language
models, right, right.
1:39:15
Adam Curry: No, no, no evidence,
no stories on or anything about
1:39:19
this guardrails around their
large language models right in
1:39:22
the mother lode database.
1:39:23
Unknown: While America says that
remember, these companies are
1:39:27
driven by profit, surveillance
capitalism. Large language
1:39:33
models will have the ability to
mimic you, it mimics humanity.
1:39:38
And when that happens, it also
doesn't tell you it lies. It
1:39:43
looks for patterns. It doesn't
necessarily find meaning. That's
1:39:48
what we've lost here. And if you
look at the two ways aI have
1:39:52
touched us, the first time it
exploited our fear, anger and
1:39:57
hate.
1:39:59
Adam Curry: I'm going to agree
It mimics humanity. It lies.
1:40:02
Yeah, cuz we're all liars. Of
course. This is no this is not
1:40:06
great, man.
1:40:08
John C Dvorak: Okay did lie
without having AI. Yeah.
1:40:13
Adam Curry: I was looking at
photos. Where's it here? I put
1:40:18
it in the show
1:40:18
John C Dvorak: notes at the end
of that clip.
1:40:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the
other clip.
1:40:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah it went on
there was there was telling
1:40:24
people you want to go look it up
here.
1:40:25
Adam Curry: Let me see there's
this Associated Press Photo. Man
1:40:30
it was of a black lives matter.
protest. And it's completely AI
1:40:38
there's people with six fingers.
There's there's a guy in the
1:40:41
background whose eyes like
bulging and all blurred into his
1:40:45
Hey,
1:40:45
John C Dvorak: love the bulging
eyes, it's
1:40:47
Adam Curry: been, it's the six
finger thing. It's just it's not
1:40:50
going away. AI is just not
great. Show me a picture with
1:40:54
well, it should be four fingers
on the thumb. But you know what
1:40:57
I'm saying? It's not it's just
not great. It's people are
1:41:05
people fall for it. I'm telling
you that I am going to I'm going
1:41:09
to save the world for 3% of the
people will be saved by our
1:41:12
systems that we create with RSS.
Just 3% and everyone else is
1:41:17
going to be a bloody good number
that's about and that's about
1:41:21
what I think I can save. Is that
good enough for a Nobel Peace
1:41:24
Prize?
1:41:27
John C Dvorak: Well, we had to
exaggerate the lie. AI does have
1:41:32
to lie, to lie, but we can
manage it.
1:41:35
Adam Curry: Here's an example of
a human being lying. This is a
1:41:38
great example. This is again
Rear Admiral Kirby. And he is
1:41:45
asked a question about the
President's thinking. But he's
1:41:50
very clear in his obvious lie.
1:41:53
Unknown: I want to play this
soundbite for you that is just
1:41:55
last month and Vietnam and ask
you if this still holds for the
1:42:00
President watch. The only
existential
1:42:04
threat humanity faces even more
frightening than nuclear war. is
1:42:11
global warming going above 1.5
degrees in the next 2010 years.
1:42:16
Given all the nuclear players in
these two areas where we are now
1:42:20
engaged on does the President
stand by that comment?
1:42:22
Absolutely does climate change
is an existential threat, it
1:42:26
actually threatens and is
capable wiping out all human
1:42:30
life on Earth. Time. I mean,
that's
1:42:34
Adam Curry: global warming
climate change is in competition
1:42:37
with AI who's going to kill us
faster
1:42:39
Unknown: human life on earth
over time. I mean, that's I
1:42:42
don't know how more existential,
you get to that. But that
1:42:45
doesn't mean that we walk away
from our obligations, or our
1:42:47
national security interests in
very dangerous parts of the
1:42:50
time.
1:42:51
He said it was more frightening
than a nuclear war, is that it's
1:42:56
more frightening than a nuclear
war in this moment.
1:43:00
The President believes
wholeheartedly that climate
1:43:03
change is an existential threat
to the all human life on the
1:43:06
planet. That's just science.
That's a fact, Martha Beck on
1:43:10
the other challenges facing this
country and our allies and
1:43:13
partners around the world,
1:43:14
Adam Curry: that's just science
and focus,
1:43:16
John C Dvorak: tip of the day
for that peace.
1:43:19
Adam Curry: Just science, in
fact, Martha, that's all but it
1:43:22
is. I don't like that you
disparage my clip that way, but
1:43:26
I'll take the award. Thank you.
And the fact that her name is
1:43:31
Martha makes it better. That's
just science. In fact, Martha
1:43:35
John C Dvorak: teaches science
in fact, wrong. It's just
1:43:39
science, in fact that we're all
gonna die from global warming.
1:43:42
Adam Curry: We're not because
we're going to save the world.
1:43:45
No, we're gonna save the world
with carbon credits and right on
1:43:48
cue as predicted on the wait,
wait,
1:43:52
John C Dvorak: carbon credits,
does that change the mnemonic
1:43:54
carbon is released?
1:43:56
Adam Curry: Why are you trying
to be difficult? Just sit back
1:43:59
and relax and take the
propaganda. Do you remember I
1:44:04
had the clips from the big
climate change conference in in
1:44:08
Africa. And they were talking
about land being carbon sink. So
1:44:14
you know, if you own a piece of
land in Africa, you can turn
1:44:19
that into a carbon credit.
1:44:21
John C Dvorak: Yum. Well, what
is
1:44:23
Adam Curry: the United Arab
Emirates has inked a deal to buy
1:44:27
a fifth? That's 20% of
Zimbabwe's land, four carbon
1:44:32
credits. This is great. 7.5
million hectares
1:44:39
John C Dvorak: is one born every
minute.
1:44:42
Adam Curry: What is 7.5 million
hectares is a hectare. It's
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: about 14 acres.
14 acres and LinkedIn I think is
1:44:51
up to date tickets. It's like
for two acres proximately two a
1:44:54
hectare.
1:44:57
Adam Curry: So there it is. I'll
look it up. The flurry so it's
1:45:01
Oh, it's okay. The global $2
billion Voluntary Carbon Offset
1:45:06
market allows carbon emitters to
offset emissions by purchasing
1:45:11
credits from emission reducing
projects primarily in forest
1:45:15
conservation. So
1:45:18
John C Dvorak: I'm okay hectares
2.47 acres.
1:45:21
Adam Curry: So if I have three
acres here could I turn that
1:45:24
into a carbon credit? Yeah, how
much? Not much but I could Chem
1:45:29
bucks it's like a Bitcoin
1:45:32
John C Dvorak: I don't think
it's worth a Bitcoin No, but
1:45:34
Adam Curry: it's like a Bitcoin
you just you just say well, I do
1:45:37
I got this I got this stuff. Oh,
1:45:39
John C Dvorak: yeah, you make it
Yeah. But everyone get for it.
1:45:42
And if
1:45:42
Adam Curry: I plant a tree,
another carbon credit and your
1:45:45
gold we should have been doing
this a long time ago. We really
1:45:50
should have
1:45:54
John C Dvorak: the bank money in
the bank.
1:45:56
Adam Curry: So very sad isn't we
should take a break but very sad
1:45:59
for this next person. This
although, boy timing is
1:46:06
everything. This this 911 10
times worse than 911, which is
1:46:14
almost as bad as January 6 could
not have come at a worst time
1:46:17
for this announcement, a new
curveball
1:46:19
Unknown: in the race for
president to declare myself an
1:46:23
independent ganda. Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. Leaving the
1:46:28
Democratic Party to run as an
independent
1:46:32
Adam Curry: What are you
drinking?
1:46:34
John C Dvorak: It's the polar
just a plain polar seltzer get a
1:46:37
few more cans of this left
1:46:39
Adam Curry: because I opened one
earlier you didn't you didn't
1:46:42
mention here it oh, I'm drinking
a source Perrier lime. From the
1:46:47
camp
1:46:48
John C Dvorak: lime ladies and
gentlemen, very you know if
1:46:51
anyone can find a blue bottles
of Perrier lightly carbonated
1:46:56
tastes just like low bad to wipe
my favorite sparkling beverage?
1:47:00
Oh
1:47:00
Adam Curry: no Budweiser like
boudoir. Like big bad dua. No,
1:47:04
no be de Lobi day.
1:47:06
John C Dvorak: I don't want to
drink low bid day.
1:47:10
Adam Curry: The Democrats are
frightened that I'm gonna spoil
1:47:12
the election for President Biden
and the Republicans are
1:47:15
frightened that I'm gonna spoil
it for President Trump. The
1:47:21
truth is, they're both right.
1:47:24
Unknown: Back in April, he
1:47:25
launched a longshot bid for the
Democratic nomination. But his
1:47:28
position on vaccines and
abortion were out of the party's
1:47:31
mainstream his own siblings
denouncing his run as an
1:47:35
independent saying Bobby might
share the same name as our
1:47:38
father but he does not share the
same values vision or judgment.
1:47:42
We denounce his candidacy and
believe it to be perilous for
1:47:45
our country.
1:47:46
denounce him.
1:47:48
John C Dvorak: denounce your own
you know, what are your own
1:47:51
members of your own family? It's
disgusting
1:47:53
Adam Curry: was pretty bad. But
this is not good for it. I mean,
1:47:57
John C Dvorak: the timing sodomy
is horrible, but this is also
1:48:00
done this like a week ago or
maybe a month from now? It
1:48:04
wouldn't it wouldn't have
mattered by the way. I was gonna
1:48:06
say that report indicates that
he was thwarted. They did
1:48:10
without going into any details.
There hasn't even doesn't been
1:48:14
the Democratic Convention yet.
There hasn't been any primaries.
1:48:17
Adam Curry: Well, he he can't
get in. He can't he can't even
1:48:20
get in the primary lock
1:48:22
John C Dvorak: him out is what
she should what she should have
1:48:24
said yes, I locked him
1:48:25
Adam Curry: out. Eyes. I mean,
there's still a lot of time a
1:48:30
lot of things can happen. But I
see no reason why the military
1:48:35
industrial complex, the
financial, which is same as the
1:48:39
financial complex. Maybe this is
why Steve Steve Scalise Vegas
1:48:44
possibly can become the new
Speaker of the House.
1:48:47
John C Dvorak: We that was my
assertion to him was your
1:48:49
assertion. It was yours. But you
know, hey, you
1:48:51
Adam Curry: know he's got
cancer. Wow, we can't have that
1:48:53
guy with cancer. Well get rid of
Raskin then to come on. This is
1:48:59
what kind of acts we kind of
that's that's probably the one
1:49:01
of the most demoralizing things
you can say. Hey, ma'am. I'm
1:49:06
sorry. You can't run because you
got cancer. I mean, people
1:49:11
survive. People live with him.
Just an Marjorie Taylor Greene.
1:49:19
Notice my voice going up when I
say your name, Marjorie Taylor.
1:49:22
But you do that all the time
with Marjorie Taylor Greene why
1:49:24
she do it up? Oh, no, no, no,
he's got cancer. Oh, no, we
1:49:29
can't have him do he might die
before he can sign more money
1:49:32
for Ukraine and Israel?
1:49:34
John C Dvorak: Well, they have
to put him in my thesis because
1:49:37
he's all pro giving more money
to Ukraine. Yet while he was
1:49:40
marginally, Marjorie, Democrats
should put him in. I mean, it
1:49:44
just takes like 50 of them to
say yeah, and the whole thing
1:49:48
goes through
1:49:49
Adam Curry: how much do you
think? So I I think that 24
1:49:52
billion for Ukraine. I mean, the
public money, right? This is
1:49:56
just the stuff that they'll tell
us. I think that will now have
1:49:59
to move to 50 And I think
Israel, I think we go to 400
1:50:04
billion, just for starters.
1:50:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's too
much. They don't need that much
1:50:09
money down there for Iran. Well,
no, Ron's different. If that
1:50:14
happens, then they have to start
putting money down there.
1:50:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
it's for. That'd be great. And
1:50:20
who do we actually need to take
out? What do we need to do in
1:50:22
Iran to
1:50:23
John C Dvorak: Toy need to low
flying jets and Hello, flying
1:50:28
jets and bombs and there's a
neighborhood where all the
1:50:30
mullahs live is known fact they
live in these mansions in some
1:50:34
kind of walled garden
neighborhood. And you just go in
1:50:37
there and bomb all their houses
and then fly back and say, I
1:50:40
don't know what happened. You
just
1:50:41
Adam Curry: hired you just got
us fired as the courier Devorah
1:50:44
Consulting Group. This is not
the right answer. How do we get
1:50:47
real money out of it? Some real
1:50:49
John C Dvorak: Whoa, yeah,
there's not real money to do
1:50:51
well. Yeah, good question. Good
point.
1:50:56
Adam Curry: It's not cheap to
send a aircraft carrier down
1:51:00
there.
1:51:01
John C Dvorak: No, that's
expensive. It's very expensive,
1:51:03
and they're gonna send another
group. I don't have the clip.
1:51:06
But somebody else came on one of
the shows another action arm. Of
1:51:11
course, he says, yeah, and they
got to another group going in
1:51:14
and reported jumped on him and
go, what this is news jet. Tell
1:51:18
me more. And they gave him no
bah bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
1:51:23
That's good. That's good. It was
pretty funny.
1:51:27
Adam Curry: So the other scandal
what was the other scandal wiped
1:51:30
from the front pages? So many
people benefit from this? Never
1:51:33
let a crisis go to waste.
Menendez. Menendez don't even
1:51:41
Don't talk about him anymore.
Bob Menendez and his corruption
1:51:44
scandal,
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: though he's a
total criminal.
1:51:47
Adam Curry: Well, do you
remember what I said?
1:51:51
John C Dvorak: No, I do not.
1:51:52
Adam Curry: I said his wife is
the problem. Yes, you
1:51:55
John C Dvorak: did say that. I
remember that.
1:51:57
Unknown: This is the second time
he's been indicted in the last
1:51:59
eight years and report suggests
that Menendez his wife played a
1:52:03
major role in his murky deals.
Menendez med he's Armenian
1:52:09
American while studying
ARSLANIAN at a restaurant in
1:52:12
2018 and got married in 2020.
Prosecutors claim she played a
1:52:16
key role in collecting hundreds
of 1000s of dollars worth of
1:52:19
bribes from three New Jersey
businessmen seeking help from
1:52:23
the powerful lawmaker. Her role
was so vital that she was the
1:52:26
one who introduced Menendez to
parties connected to the
1:52:29
Egyptian government. According
to the indictment document. The
1:52:32
filing also states that Nadine
was unemployed before they met
1:52:35
but the following year, she
incorporated a new consulting
1:52:38
company strategic international
business consultants LLC. After
1:52:42
their marriage in 2020. She came
into possession of a large
1:52:45
amount of gold. She later sold
some of the bars for between
1:52:48
200,000 to $400,000, according
to the senators financial
1:52:52
disclosure reports. Now here's a
bit of context, Menendez was the
1:52:59
chairman of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee until the
1:53:02
investigation became public.
That post gave him a lot of
1:53:05
influence in US foreign policy.
This is where wire Hannah comes
1:53:09
in. Nadine and Hannah were
friends for years before her
1:53:12
marriage to Menendez. According
to the indictment, Hannah helped
1:53:15
arrange meetings and dinners
between Menendez, Nadine and
1:53:18
Egyptian military and
intelligence officials. This was
1:53:21
part of a covert initiative
aimed at using the Senator's
1:53:24
influence to boost US aid to
Egypt. After one of these
1:53:28
meetings in 2018, Menendez
texted his wife telling her to
1:53:32
inform her that he would sign
off and a multimillion dollar
1:53:35
weapons sale to Egypt.
1:53:37
Adam Curry: Menendez should not
be impeached for corruption but
1:53:40
for being an idiot this woman
snookered him in
1:53:46
John C Dvorak: you know, I don't
know that this is really what
1:53:48
this sounds to me like you're
putting out a story that
1:53:52
parallels the Biden story with
his son you it's his fault. And
1:53:59
I think that's a judgment puts
in my mind I have a clip. New
1:54:03
bad stuff about Biden,
1:54:05
Adam Curry: Biden, hey, screw
the war in Israel. We've got the
1:54:08
Biden and Menendez stuff for you
right here.
1:54:11
Unknown: You record show that
President Biden was involved in
1:54:14
his son and brother's businesses
as vice president, America first
1:54:17
Lego published the records from
the National Archives following
1:54:21
a Freedom of Information Act
lawsuit. National Archives
1:54:25
Records show that then Vice
President Biden's office
1:54:28
exchanged over 19,000 emails
with Hunter Biden's is missed
1:54:32
confirm Rosemont Seneca over
4000 emails with Hunter Biden
1:54:36
himself over 1700 emails with
his brother James Biden, and
1:54:40
over 3700 emails was James
Biden's lie in whole group.
1:54:44
Biden has previously claimed he
was not involved in his son and
1:54:48
brothers business dealings.
America first legal said on X
1:54:51
today, quote, There was
extensive commingling between
1:54:55
them. The House Oversight
Committee which has been
1:54:57
investigating the Biden's family
business dealings is also
1:55:00
commented saying Biden's
statement quote doesn't match
1:55:04
his track record
1:55:10
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. You know, I
don't think anyone can say that
1:55:15
they don't feel much better
after just listening to this to
1:55:18
this hour and 50 minutes of the
no agenda show. I mean, you're
1:55:23
not I hope so you're not all
spun up you're not all worried
1:55:26
about tomorrow. Tomorrow all
it's gonna be attacks everywhere
1:55:29
in America tomorrow. Yeah,
1:55:31
John C Dvorak: we're going to be
attacked any minute today. These
1:55:33
guys are going to come in with
you know, somehow they're going
1:55:35
to swim over.
1:55:37
Adam Curry: Now they're coming
across the border. Coming right
1:55:39
up to
1:55:40
John C Dvorak: the Bahamas. How
do you get to Mexico without
1:55:42
swimming by
1:55:43
Adam Curry: coming right up
through Fredericksburg. No.
1:55:46
Stopping when you
1:55:47
John C Dvorak: see him? Yeah,
well, you mentioned that you
1:55:51
were we're talking about some
buddy wanted to send us some
1:55:54
clips from somebody we won't
even mentioned his name. A guy
1:55:58
who is a well respected or not
well respected but a well
1:56:04
followed. Guy as on the on the
YouTube and everyplace else and,
1:56:10
and I said that we don't play
this guy's clip. Charlie Kirk.
1:56:14
Oh, that's who it was Charlie
Kirk. And you said well, he just
1:56:18
came into Canterbury gave us
beach and they got all the local
1:56:23
women all jacked up.
1:56:26
Adam Curry: We were supposed to
go. But I don't it's something
1:56:29
that somehow that didn't happen.
And it was a I think it was to
1:56:33
raise money for the Tea Party,
which I guess still exist. And
1:56:40
brother, so I don't know. And I
have nothing against Charlie
1:56:43
Kirk. Personally, he's probably
1:56:45
John C Dvorak: he's he's a very
easy, very sharp, very sharp
1:56:48
guy.
1:56:48
Adam Curry: But everybody
everybody came back so riled up.
1:56:52
There's Oh, ha ha.
1:56:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard
some of his stuff he gets it
1:56:58
says like he does it on purpose.
He gets people's like you said
1:57:01
spun up. Yeah. And this is not
this is not good. We're like
1:57:06
Xanax.
1:57:11
Unknown: Amen.
1:57:13
Adam Curry: With that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage in
1:57:15
the morning to you the man who
put the season in the Christ
1:57:17
caulk ladies and gentlemen say
hello to my friend on the other
1:57:19
end one only Mr. John Cena
1:57:26
John C Dvorak: Morning Mr.
Schiff see boots on the ground
1:57:29
feet in the air subs in the
water. And all the games and
1:57:31
nights out there in the morning
to
1:57:33
Unknown: the trolls and the
troll Joe can be counted around
1:57:39
Adam Curry: 2074 2000 Write that
down to 1000s I have a notebook
1:57:44
I
1:57:44
John C Dvorak: 2074. Yeah,
1:57:46
Adam Curry: 2074 Trolls. That's
up. And N and we're almost two
1:57:51
hours in. We know what it is.
This is what happens people like
1:57:55
man, I'm all spun up. Maybe the
boys will
1:57:58
John C Dvorak: spit me down this
slow you down a slow you down.
1:58:02
Adam Curry: I mean, there's
nothing like John saying that he
1:58:04
prefers the smart gay guys. I
mean, come on. That's common
1:58:06
people. That's the kind of
comedy The no agenda show
1:58:09
delivers to you.
1:58:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, everybody
prefers the smart guys.
1:58:14
Adam Curry: Now, don't rely on
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no agenda. social.com Oh, man,
people are mad at me. I'm afraid
1:58:46
to even mention anybody. Well,
the last show I said, this guy,
1:58:52
I'm not going to mention his
name because again, we all get
1:58:54
angry. Let's admit you
progressive nights sloughed and
1:58:59
sad, you know, he posted this
screenshot. And I said, Hey,
1:59:03
man, how about a link? This is
not helpful. And then Oh, yeah.
1:59:06
You
1:59:06
John C Dvorak: said you do that
which is common. You do that
1:59:08
constantly.
1:59:09
Adam Curry: And he's like, Well,
this is also the guy that claims
1:59:12
that we never talk about Julian
Assange and it's there's reasons
1:59:17
I find it interesting. You don't
talk about Julian Assange. Mm
1:59:20
Hmm Hmm. Hmm. It's one of these
guys. Then he and I will not
1:59:30
stop posting until you
apologize. I don't know what the
1:59:33
heck he was talking about. And I
didn't realize that we were here
1:59:38
to work for you. Said the man
with a free account. We don't
1:59:44
even run the thing. But you
know, it's like signaled noise
1:59:50
people see this, you know, even
this even Macedon is bumming me
1:59:53
out.
1:59:55
John C Dvorak: Really. bumming
you out. It's bumming me out. I
1:59:59
haven't heard that term for
While mountains go wow. Oh, wow.
2:00:02
Yep, yep.
2:00:06
Adam Curry: And then it was like
he's a great
2:00:08
John C Dvorak: guy. Oh, okay,
great guy this Assange
2:00:12
Adam Curry: partisan night slot.
2:00:14
John C Dvorak: Who says he's a
great guy,
2:00:15
Adam Curry: everybody. Oh,
you're wrong. He's a great guy.
2:00:18
I didn't say he wasn't a great
guy said he wasted my time with
2:00:21
a screenshot.
2:00:22
John C Dvorak: How does anybody
know where there's a great guy
2:00:24
or not? Nobody be intermingled
because the thing because
2:00:27
Adam Curry: he's onboarded so
many people. He's a great guy.
2:00:30
John C Dvorak: He's
unbelievable. Okay, well,
2:00:33
Adam Curry: I can't I can't how
I was going to bring my sister
2:00:35
in. But I can't now because you
said something about me. So I
2:00:39
can't ever let her hear that
because you'd be so
2:00:41
disappointed. No agenda is no
good with you.
2:00:45
John C Dvorak: On parents
getting kick him off, Master.
2:00:47
No,
2:00:48
Adam Curry: no, I'm kicking
myself off. It's annoying. I
2:00:54
just want to follow some blogs.
2:00:57
John C Dvorak: Well, there's no
such thing anymore. Yes, there
2:00:59
is.
2:01:00
Adam Curry: Bringing it back
baby. books, movies,
2:01:02
documentaries. It's all going to
be RSS and I'm gonna I'm gonna
2:01:07
the the army. The army will
create it. You watch. We start
2:01:11
with podcasts. No one has taken
down the podcast. No one has
2:01:14
taken on the podcast. They
tried. They couldn't they tried
2:01:17
to capture it. Couldn't
2:01:18
John C Dvorak: you couldn't make
it Adams RSS. No. Yeah, you
2:01:23
could be an arse okay.
2:01:30
Adam Curry: You can follow Adam
and origin the social.com I
2:01:32
won't post you follow Jhansi
Dvorak at norgine. The
2:01:35
social.com post something to him
and he'll say something grumpy
2:01:38
back. Everyone knows it.
2:01:41
Unknown: Everyone knows it.
We're no good. too rare.
2:01:45
Adam Curry: It's rare that you
say something grumpy? Yeah.
2:01:51
Where's the evidence? And stuff
like that? All right, then
2:01:54
that's just the voice I hear my
head. Value for value is the
2:02:00
reason why you have not heard
any advertisements you've not
2:02:03
heard anything about gold or
gold? Buy gold buy gold. Yeah.
2:02:08
And this is the reason what's
happening now is the reason you
2:02:12
want to secure your future. You
want to buy some gold? I have
2:02:16
gold bars. John, have you bought
any gold recently? Did you get
2:02:19
in?
2:02:20
John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a
month.
2:02:23
Adam Curry: Bar a month. Wow.
What that DHL plug must be doing
2:02:27
pretty well for you. Bar a
month. No, there's no no and no.
2:02:33
The only advertisements are the
things that we as products we'd
2:02:36
like or if someone slipped
something in a donation. We're
2:02:39
fine with that one moment you
will Finchy your your company
2:02:42
name I'm sure the door is being
burnt down with new clients
2:02:45
everywhere. Lena Lubetkin Yeah.
And so all we ask for is that
2:02:51
you return some value time,
talent or treasure. It saves us
2:02:55
enormous resources. It really
makes no agenda show and you
2:02:59
know agenda nation what it is by
the work that everyone else does
2:03:03
for each other. Like the
meetups. Oh man, the new being
2:03:06
at.io Sir sir de nonnamous. Is
he the upgrade is going to be
2:03:11
phenomenal. I this being a.io.
Man, I can I just give you an
2:03:15
example of how cool since we're
in the donation segment. How
2:03:19
cool bing.io is okay, I want a
second. Yeah. So I was looking
2:03:23
for something about a new story.
And this goes back to September
2:03:30
14. So we're almost one month
ago. And it only took me I want
2:03:37
to say 37 seconds to get exactly
what I wanted. And then and that
2:03:41
includes the editing of the harp
at the beginning of the listen
2:03:44
to this report from the show
1597 boots on the ground report
2:03:49
that is troubling from
Massachusetts. In the morning
2:03:52
boys quick update from the
horrible state of tax that UCITS
2:03:56
My cousin is set to get married
over Columbus Day weekend. The
2:04:00
groom's family is from out of
town and they rented two floors
2:04:03
of a hotel so they could all be
together for the weekend.
2:04:06
Governor Healy just seized the
hotel to house migrants so they
2:04:11
have lost their reservations.
There's nowhere else to say on
2:04:14
top of it. All the hotels that
are housing migrants are having
2:04:17
fires, assaults, etc. It's a
nightmare. So that is one month
2:04:23
ago. One month ago on your no
agenda show and what pops up
2:04:27
today.
2:04:28
Unknown: Early this year Travel
Agent Mark man's back booked 400
2:04:32
rooms for clients to stay near
Foxborough for the big Army Navy
2:04:36
game. Most of his clients are
veterans and plan to stay in
2:04:39
hotels like Comfort Inn and Best
Western only recently being told
2:04:43
up to 70 of those rooms were
canceled to make room for
2:04:47
migrants now staying there was a
done deal. I mean, they'd
2:04:50
already started taking in
migrants.
2:04:52
I was very concerned and
troubled to hear that any
2:04:55
veteran may have had their rooms
canceled.
2:04:58
Go to Bora Healy has directed
her Secretary of Veterans
2:05:01
Affairs to help those veterans
but for many the damage is
2:05:04
already done
2:05:05
as I understand it, those were
decisions made by area hotels.
2:05:09
Oh yeah, so management confirms
they are providing shelter and
2:05:13
support to refugees, saying we
consider it a privilege to offer
2:05:17
a safe haven to those who have
been forced to flee their homes
2:05:21
due to challenging
circumstances.
2:05:23
Adam Curry: We know that's code
for man the government gave us a
2:05:25
lot more money than those two
2:05:27
John C Dvorak: new vets are
gonna give us for these
2:05:29
veterans. That's
2:05:30
Adam Curry: no good. We don't
care about them. twice as
2:05:33
John C Dvorak: much money from
my for housing and migrant we
2:05:36
get straight from the government
checks cash and the
2:05:39
Adam Curry: governor's like, oh,
no, what I can't believe that.
2:05:42
That's crazy. I had no idea this
was happening. So that's what
2:05:46
being a doctor that's just one
of the many beautiful things
2:05:48
that we receive as gifts and
value from our producers all
2:05:52
around the world all around no
agenda nation. We also have
2:05:56
artists and the artists ever
since we started ragging on
2:06:00
their AI have been doing a lot
better. The artwork for episode
2:06:03
1597 Was I mean, we had some
choices to make. But this was so
2:06:08
perfect because it was the
Fibonacci episode than our last
2:06:12
probably the last one. Well,
considering it'll be another
2:06:15
1000 episodes before we get to
one. Yeah, I think I think
2:06:20
John C Dvorak: we're gonna do
2500 And
2:06:23
Adam Curry: fo Diddley, also
known as Sir Schouwburg did a
2:06:26
just a wonderful piece of
Fibonacci art with no agenda on
2:06:30
top of it. If you haven't seen
it, then that mean, you missed
2:06:33
out? Because man, this is good.
2:06:36
John C Dvorak: Yes, it was. It
was. It wasn't we looked and
2:06:40
looked and looked. And I mean,
we both kind of liked the war
2:06:44
calendar. We liked it a lot. by
Sir shooting. Yeah, it's
2:06:49
dynamite.
2:06:50
Adam Curry: We figured we could
use it any time because
2:06:53
John C Dvorak: we never do that.
By the way. We always talk a big
2:06:56
game about it.
2:06:57
Adam Curry: I use it for the for
the bad signal today. Oh, good.
2:07:00
Yeah.
2:07:00
John C Dvorak: Well, well, then.
That's something Yeah. We talk a
2:07:03
big game about that. I also
liked comic strip, strip
2:07:08
bloggers Air Force, the
parachute. It was la I
2:07:13
obviously. But the no agenda
thing. We looked and looked at
2:07:17
it. And it's just like it was it
just a good looking piece.
2:07:21
Adam Curry: It actually probably
wasn't a Fibonacci, golden ratio
2:07:24
because of the square size of
the of the art.
2:07:28
Unknown: So it felt it felt a
little off. I don't know.
2:07:31
John C Dvorak: I think it looks
pretty legit to me. But whatever
2:07:33
the case, it was dynamite. And
it just worked out. Yeah. As a
2:07:38
pretty piece. And then it's a
little different. It was great.
2:07:42
So
2:07:43
Adam Curry: what else did we
2:07:45
John C Dvorak: look at? There
wasn't really much. I mean,
2:07:49
there's a lot of stuff that
could be used
2:07:52
Adam Curry: Biden kicking the
dog, but the Biden wasn't good.
2:07:54
Yeah, we
2:07:55
John C Dvorak: didn't talk
enough about Biden kicking the
2:07:57
dog anyway.
2:07:58
Adam Curry: Now. What else was
there?
2:08:01
John C Dvorak: Biden kicks dogs.
Okay, well, good to know.
2:08:06
Adam Curry: Yes, not really
wasn't that much. I mean, in
2:08:11
hindsight, I think that lather
rinse repeat by the spook was
2:08:15
kind of nice. to two different
versions. But still, it just
2:08:23
didn't compare to the
2:08:24
John C Dvorak: Fibonacci was an
artistic enough. Yeah, it did.
2:08:27
Adam Curry: The calendar of
ripping off the Ukrainian flag,
2:08:30
revealing the Israeli flag
underneath. It was just a great
2:08:33
concert. It was the same guy. He
was competing against himself.
2:08:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get
that a lot with somebody who's
2:08:38
on a roll. They got some good
ideas in their head and they do
2:08:40
a couple art pieces or three
sometimes and they're all in the
2:08:43
same guy that it was we look at
2:08:47
Adam Curry: and looking at
what's coming in so far. We'll
2:08:50
have to see. I don't know. Step
it up people. It looks like some
2:08:55
more AI stuff has slipped in.
2:08:58
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah,
definitely. Yeah, definitely.
2:09:00
Definitely.
2:09:02
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
To fo Diddley, fo diddley for
2:09:08
the artwork for 1598 Oh man. No.
1597 I'm sorry, what? 15 man
2:09:15
we're also almost at 1600 Yeah.
And the 16th anniversary is on
2:09:22
the 26th I believe
2:09:24
John C Dvorak: it's right the
next week we go to 1600 then we
2:09:26
hit the anniversary show and
we're not doing a two for one
2:09:31
kind of thing because that was
for 15 and Tana do was he's just
2:09:35
not going to keep doing that
now. But I do have a special
2:09:37
offer which I will roll Oh,
2:09:40
Adam Curry: yes special offer.
2:09:41
John C Dvorak: I've been working
on how to do it. Workout. It'll
2:09:45
be a start out I'll it'll be
revealed in the next newsletter.
2:09:50
Because it is going to start
it's gonna go it's only going to
2:09:52
be a three week there's a
special promotion. Yes, a
2:09:55
special promotion is only a
three week deal is ends. It's
2:09:59
not going to be going on
forever, because it takes work.
2:10:04
It takes J doing a lot of work.
2:10:07
Adam Curry: I was gonna say you
read really you're gonna do some
2:10:09
work
2:10:10
John C Dvorak: out for jobs
gonna be doing good work. And
2:10:14
it'll be a roll it out. It'll
roll out this Sunday. Oh, man,
2:10:18
I'm excited. And then it'll be
continued right through the 1600
2:10:22
and the anniversary show and to
the end of the month, and
2:10:24
probably one extra week.
2:10:27
Adam Curry: But we have to use
that promo code.
2:10:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and then
you get a mattress in a box.
2:10:36
Adam Curry: Then, of course, we
have the producers, really only
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two executives and a handful of
associate executives for today.
2:10:45
This is all the way value for
value works. Whatever you get
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out of the show, send it back to
us. It doesn't matter if it's $1
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if it's $1,000 I mean it
obviously it matters to us but
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the whole point is you valuated
what is valuable to you. We
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can't look into your into your
finances. We all we ask is that
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you send something back time
talent treasure, and about 3%
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does. That's the those are the
people are gonna get saved by
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the way. No one else is gonna
get saved. With my RSS
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extravagance degree. We kick it
off with our top executive
2:11:18
producer Dame shell who's in
Millington, Tennessee Shelly
2:11:21
John C Dvorak: I think it's
pronounced Shelly
2:11:22
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Usually I
probably met her. Dame Shelly
2:11:26
I'm thinking in Tennessee 333 33
Hey fellas been seeing lots of
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30 threes lately and realize
it's been too long karma for all
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and a little yay much love from
Dame Shelley.
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Unknown: You've got karma
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Adam Curry: your name Shelly
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John C Dvorak: Vandenberg is
next season Provan Sol Louisiana
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or they pronounce it 30 threes
kept showing up you're right
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that's the signal it's time to
donate yeah Carmen health karma
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for all please love you both.
And all you do to keep critical
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thinking and humor alive. Semper
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Unknown: you've got Harma
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Adam Curry: simplified interview
right. And then we hit our first
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Associate Executive Producer
with a row of ducks Benjamin
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greasy from Overland Park Kansas
222 dot 22 When he says Zippy
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rules Thank you
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John C Dvorak: Eric Levin Berg
in Los Angeles, California. And
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he is in for $201 and he says I
do believe 100% that you are the
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best podcast in the universe.
I'd like to request jobs karma
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health karma and relationship
karma shout out to my brother
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sir Turkey, who I hope to follow
as Knight of the Round Table
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.
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Adam Curry: Then here's your
health karma. Karma. We just
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take it all in. Oh, John. You've
got to do this one.
2:13:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Linda Lou
Potkins up is she's in Lakewood,
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Colorado. Jobs karma for a
resume that gets the results go
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to Image makers inc.com For all
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makers Inc with a k.com but just
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find Linda Potkin under the show
producers list. This is a
2:13:39
showdown between the show and
Linda Lou Pak and who keeps
2:13:42
donating $200 a show to see how
long she can hold out. It
2:13:48
shouldn't be staring. Shouldn't
she be a dame? Tell she's a dame
2:13:54
maybe even a VI Countess. She
doesn't want to she don't want
2:13:57
to interrupt the flow job who at
the end when she gives up any
2:14:02
minute. Then she'll be a witness
which you have the totals and
2:14:05
we'll give her what she needs.
It'll
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Unknown: be queen jobs, jobs,
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jobs and jobs for jobs. Pharma.
2:14:15
Adam Curry: Sean Macross. In is
in tager kit take a que South
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Carolina to want to dollars. He
says appreciate what you guys
2:14:21
do. Well, thank you. Thank you
very much.
2:14:24
John C Dvorak: You can get the
next one because you have the
2:14:25
notes open.
2:14:26
Adam Curry: I don't actually but
it won't take me long to open.
2:14:30
Sorry. That's okay. This is from
surfer, surfer, surfer, surfer.
2:14:36
And the services which Rudy
sends in a note which you will
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read $200 In the morning, ITM
John Adams switcheroo. Please
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credit this Associate Executive
Producer ship to His Excellency
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Mr. Dana Brunetti governor of
Eldorado. That's his honorifics.
2:14:51
It's
2:14:52
John C Dvorak: very suspicious.
2:14:54
Adam Curry: These donations will
continue until John gets a big
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part yet karma for all producers
please love is lit, sir for
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black Baron of the i Four
corridor. All right.
2:15:07
Unknown: You've got
2:15:11
Adam Curry: karma, by the way, I
fully expect Brunetti to come
2:15:16
through one day.
2:15:18
John C Dvorak: He's out of the
business. Now he's not.
2:15:22
Adam Curry: He's not Hey,
2:15:23
John C Dvorak: thank you
bringing me back in.
2:15:25
Adam Curry: I just like to be
killed in something of a
2:15:30
gruesome death. I
2:15:30
John C Dvorak: think a lot of
people feel that.
2:15:33
Adam Curry: Go ahead, you get to
read this long one. Oh,
2:15:35
actually, that's it. Those that
were done those of the executive
2:15:39
and Associate Executive
producers for episode 1598 Thank
2:15:44
you all so very much. We highly
appreciate what you do for us.
2:15:47
These credits are Real you
2:15:48
John C Dvorak: can actually stop
stop. This next one is 159 and
2:15:53
Australian dollars which bumps
I'll read it. Yeah, this is Dean
2:15:58
from Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia. 159 70 or 200.
2:16:02
Something in American dollars is
dollar Rhett's? Which we made a
2:16:06
deal. It's kind of an agreement
bad,
2:16:09
Adam Curry: bad deal in
2:16:10
John C Dvorak: a bad deal for
us. First of all, you need to de
2:16:13
douchey
2:16:15
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:16:19
John C Dvorak: and it's 159 70
is also the golden is the
2:16:22
Fibonacci number is a numbers
guy was pleasantly stirred by
2:16:26
the call for the golden mean
show. Unfortunately, my donation
2:16:30
might have arrived and the
cutoff time after the cutoff
2:16:32
time was at last when I missed
the donor segment and it'd be
2:16:35
who's both John and you given
the rare nature of the episode
2:16:38
indeed, that would be possible
for a golden mean credit award
2:16:43
in post. I would definitely make
my day okay,
2:16:45
Adam Curry: you gotta you got it
man. My
2:16:47
John C Dvorak: initial note was
to highlight I got hit in the
2:16:50
mouth off a sweet treat in early
2018 from Uncle Hotep. co host
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of the Hotep Ben told you with
Hotep Jesus when his followers
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does the only Hotep donation
ever have as far as anyone
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listen to the show, and you got
to do somebody wants to do
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Unknown: bad deed deuced
2:17:14
John C Dvorak: Big shout out to
the low tech community and all
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the no agenda producers thank
you both for the invaluable
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That's our pleasure. In the
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standby 3333 33 out you've got
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2:17:41
Adam Curry: definitely concludes
our executive and Associate
2:17:43
Executive Producers credits are
Real you can use them anywhere
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credits are recognized. Be like
Dana Brunetti and put it on
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imdb.com Then you can say hey,
look at my credits. Look at this
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guy. You heard this guy house of
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GranTurismo do it to people,
it's good for your resume. It's
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good for conversation. And you
might even pick up another
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listener along the way. Thank
you again for supporting the no
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agenda show if you'd like to
become a producer. Here's where
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Adam Curry: or no agenda show
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through to the 50s won't take
very long and then Bruce
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John C Dvorak: Schwalm starts us
off from Harrisburg,
2:18:24
Pennsylvania. $133. And it says
David poeple poeple and
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curiously, Australia 12863. And
this is a switcheroo for his
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lovely wife Liz's birthday. It
needs a de douching
2:18:41
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:18:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Australians
can get a biscuit for their
2:18:47
birthday if you can hit that
button.
2:18:51
Adam Curry: Sorry. I should that
shouldn't be a button. Hold on.
2:18:55
You asked for it.
2:18:56
John C Dvorak: They always give
me a biscuit on my birthday God
2:18:59
and His Pull, pull. Pull pull is
how you pronounce it. I speak of
2:19:03
the devil. There's Dana Brunetti
from Golden cloud ranch in
2:19:07
California. That's his ranch. I
will read some of this because
2:19:11
of the nature of possibly
getting a big part. Monday is a
2:19:16
Stella's 11th birthday. She's on
the list. The only show episode
2:19:20
she ever wants to hear while I'm
driving her to school is the
2:19:22
episode last year where she got
a birthday shout out. Yeah,
2:19:26
mentioned her every show and I
can listen with her in the car.
2:19:30
Also, there's a good Fibonacci
reference in my movie 21 about
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the MIT car card counters. He
comes in with a with a 112 30
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fives like I discerned two
things from this to 112 a Senate
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becoming an executive producer.
He comes in with just a low
2:19:45
level. He's running out of
money. He's and he's talks about
2:19:49
one of his old movies. He's
going back into the business of
2:19:52
being a producer.
2:19:53
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
It's gonna be 500 Shades of
2:19:57
Grey. It's got a big part
2:20:04
John C Dvorak: about that. Be
the guy handing out the whips in
2:20:07
the office. That's Andrew Kelly
in Los Angeles, California
2:20:10
$100.33. We give you some grad
school admissions karma at the
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end anonymity and lien,
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Adam Curry: Lena Lena Lena Lena
Lena lane, Lane, that lane.
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John C Dvorak: Lane that lane
that $100. Katie in Bozeman,
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Montana $100 Nisa de douching.
2:20:34
Unknown: De deuced.
2:20:37
John C Dvorak: Sir Ty Joker that
he is in Queen Creek, Arizona.
2:20:42
Eight, the 888 lot of eights
happy 10 by 10 by 10 day 1010
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day which was just the other day
it was Tuesday.
2:20:49
Adam Curry: It was last week as
well. Yeah, it was two weeks in
2:20:53
a row
2:20:54
John C Dvorak: is the best
China. We'll get a note from the
2:20:58
Chinese Embassy because of that.
Kevin McLaughlin the Duke Aluna
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Save the JUGS getting getting to
the end of this. Josh urban
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David German and North Tura Mora
New South Wales $77. This is
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under 2556 and dollar ruse.
Kevin McLaughlin is back with
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month save the Sugar Plum. Okay,
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Sir Don in Chandler, Arizona.
606 Dave gainer in Melrose
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Florida 606 small boobs in
regards to recent news from the
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curry house. We don't know about
on this show.
2:21:56
Adam Curry: Now you got to
listen to Korean the keeper if
2:21:58
you want to know about that and
less
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John C Dvorak: Tara kowski in
Kingman Arizona 57 Oliver Reich
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I should have called him by his
current name. But I won't and I
2:22:11
want to I just want to say where
he's from he goes with an
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anonymous name now 5150 Thank
you. Christine Heinz and
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Manchester New Hampshire 5123
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5050. And now we got the $50
donors with few there are
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there's actually more of these
than anything else as a matter
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of fact that the natty a Borg
and San Marcos California oh my
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god he said ended hood in orange
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in Grand Forks, North Dakota,
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Pennsylvania. John spade in
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Mineola, New York Cory
Cunningham in Warrenton,
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Jersey Gary Mao in Woodland
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from Miami Beach we have Jason
to luzio want to thank all these
2:23:31
people for making a show 1598 to
two away a reality
2:23:37
Adam Curry: and thank you
everyone who came in under 50
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For real reasons of anonymity
that's the best way to stay
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anonymous 4999 People do that a
lot also thank you for being on
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those sustaining donations they
they come back monthly you can
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make your own What do you got a
cool numbers 30 threes elevens
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12 Even threes if you want all
of its there, and as always we
2:23:58
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers
2:24:00
for being here producing episode
1598
2:24:06
Unknown: this we go out but yet
people in the mouth
2:24:29
Adam Curry: and we kick it off
with the governor of El Dorado
2:24:31
Dana Brunetti, wishing Estella
Happy birthday she turned to
2:24:34
Lebanon October 9 Happy Birthday
Estella in the car. From uncle
2:24:40
Adam and Uncle John. Sir
protector. Sir Bob protector of
2:24:43
Western foco wishes his sister
Pam and son Andrew a happy
2:24:47
birthday. Born on the 11th So
that was all yesterday Tim de
2:24:51
vecchio celebrates today and
David poeple wishes his wife Liz
2:24:55
a very happy birthday as we say
happy birthday from everybody
2:24:58
here in the best podcast in the
unit. ours. Now before we we
2:25:03
have won one podium, one podium
person today for a Daming. This
2:25:08
is the dame note from Kara
parallel. And on last Thursday's
2:25:15
episode My smokin hot husband
Walker Phillips made a generous
2:25:18
switcheroo donation to make me a
dame or at least Dame adjacent
2:25:22
for my birthday. That's right.
We waited for you at the
2:25:25
roundtable. I would like a
bottle of 2017 cost of brown
2:25:29
Cerise, Pinot Noir and a vegan
gluten free pizza with
2:25:32
mushrooms, olives and onions.
But well, you know, how about
2:25:41
this wine? What's that? The 2017
COSTA brown Cerise Pinot Noir.
2:25:45
Is that any good? Yeah, I don't
I've never had it. My day name
2:25:48
shall be deemed windchimes
portraits of the Partridge
2:25:51
Family temple. Oh man, they must
be fun to hang out with thanks
2:25:55
so much for everything. And we
will bring you right in fact,
2:25:58
let's get our blades out. Here
we go.
2:26:00
John C Dvorak: Got it right here
ready to go.
2:26:01
Adam Curry: All right, here we
go. Kara power about up on the
2:26:06
podium you go. Thanks for your
hobby. He loves you very, very
2:26:11
much. I'm very proud to
pronounce the K the same wind
2:26:14
chimes Partridge of the
Partridge Family temple for you
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we have well Brent boys and
Chardonnay. I don't think you
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need any hookers and blow. We
also have that 27 custom brown
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Cerise, Pinot Noir and a vegan
gluten free pizza with
2:26:28
mushrooms, olives and onions
delectable. I tell you, along
2:26:32
with that just in case you don't
have enough of that pizza. We
2:26:35
got some vodka but Ellis and
buckets and bourbon, some ginger
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ale and Jerboas we got some
breast milk and pablum. And, of
2:26:41
course, the always effervescent
mutton and meat. Enjoy that
2:26:45
while you surf over to no agenda
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rings that are available for
Knights and Dames. There's
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a signet ring. You can use it
with the wax that we will
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provide to seal your important
correspondence. And as always,
2:27:00
they come with a certificate of
authenticity signed by yours
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truly. crackpot and buzzkill
Thank you very much to your
2:27:06
husband, thank you for being a
day. We'd love having you here.
2:27:09
And again, thank you to everyone
who supported no agenda on this
2:27:13
episode.
2:27:14
Unknown: No one said
2:27:22
Adam Curry: well, not only do we
have no meetup reports. There's
2:27:25
also no meetups on Friday the
13th Interestingly enough, there
2:27:30
is one today
2:27:30
John C Dvorak: me found that
quite peculiar.
2:27:33
Adam Curry: You'd think I was
afraid, you know.
2:27:35
John C Dvorak: There's also no
meetups on Halloween.
2:27:39
Adam Curry: Well, now is
Halloween. You gotta do
2:27:41
something else with your time
you
2:27:42
John C Dvorak: got to take the
kids. Take the kids know
2:27:44
meetups, the Mile
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Adam Curry: High meetup kicks
off today at 630 at Lincoln's
2:27:48
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado
then on Saturday, the North
2:27:51
Carolina triad two o'clock at
Kernersville Brewing Company in
2:27:54
North Carolina in Kernersville.
Obviously, the mutton and Mead
2:27:58
meet up Alaska and it'll be a
two o'clock at Parker Ranch.
2:28:03
That's in Palmer Alaska. So you
have to RSVP it's a private home
2:28:07
now that sounds like a lot of
fun. Lake chapel a muster that
2:28:11
chapel and next time will be 330
for you. That's Mexico. American
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Legion choppa la Shapleigh Is
that how you pronounce it? Chapa
2:28:18
la central Mexico. Damn kicking
and screaming organizing that
2:28:22
for you can't wait to hear a
meet up report from there. The
2:28:26
spot the spook casual pint is
where you will meet up in
2:28:30
Huntsville, Alabama on Saturday.
The second Saturday slave soiree
2:28:34
at Dick's primal burger in
Portland, Oregon. Also on
2:28:36
Saturday five o'clock we have
the Northeast Houston meetup
2:28:40
3040 Farm to Market bogeys
billiard that'll be at five
2:28:44
o'clock on Sunday next showed a
505 ITM that's in sawmill.
2:28:49
Albuquerque, New Mexico. This is
Jeff tobique. Sir, sir Jeff,
2:28:53
please people go visit him. He's
been kind of low on the on the
2:28:58
attendance like couple people
only so and he's a cool Do you
2:29:02
really is asking Him to show you
his scars. Cast casting for
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Gaston. That'll be at two
o'clock on Sunday at Gaston
2:29:09
manor in Charleston South
Carolina Dame Jennifer's
2:29:13
organizing all that sounds like
something good. Gaston Manor,
2:29:17
private residence like a Bruce
Wayne type of thing like Wayne
2:29:21
Manor Naik, EB Dame Jennifer
I'll be looking for a report
2:29:25
from you. And finally also on
Sunday the spooky October meet
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up three o'clock at prodigy
Burger Bar in Indianapolis,
2:29:32
Indiana and Indy we're coming
December 4 to keep an eye coming
2:29:36
for for a meet up so everybody
get ready for that. It's gonna
2:29:39
be a lot of fun. I'm very
excited about it. Since we'll
2:29:43
have direct flights. Teams like
we can fly through Atlanta But
2:29:48
nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. So
we'll be arriving right around
2:29:51
seven o'clock to get everything
going and we're leaving that
2:29:54
we're staying at the airport
hotel people just say no, we're
2:29:56
in and out in and out but we're
coming for you because we love
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you These are the no agenda
meetups, they're very important
2:30:02
for your psyche. You know,
whereas we act as the Xanax. You
2:30:06
really want, you know, the full
on ludes that's what you get
2:30:10
from the meetup you hang out
with people who you probably
2:30:12
wouldn't expect to hang out
with. But it turns out we're all
2:30:16
members of Gitmo nation and have
like a companion to the show.
2:30:20
You'll have great conversations
it's always fun. There's always
2:30:24
a little of alcohol involved and
you get connection which is
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ultimate protection no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find
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will tell everybody all about
2:30:48
Unknown: everybody feels the
same
2:30:58
Okay,
2:30:58
Adam Curry: I'm back. I'm back.
I have two to two ISOs to I
2:31:05
think one of them's the winner.
Do you want to do yours first?
2:31:08
Are you always how you
2:31:09
John C Dvorak: did mine first
lesson?
2:31:10
Adam Curry: You love it? You're
wanted for Christmas? That's one
2:31:16
second I got a boost this next
one this is the winner Houma
2:31:19
This is the winner. Me just
looks at the volume sometimes
2:31:21
these aren't good. Okay, here we
go. This is the winner there is
2:31:24
just not enough of Taylor Swift
Come on. Come on. That's the
2:31:28
winner right there.
2:31:29
John C Dvorak: I like it. I like
it. I may have beat her when it
2:31:32
means now I have a couple here
that I thought I could fit that
2:31:36
I only I actually have one and
that one the other ones I have
2:31:40
are just an example of using the
Adobe thing and having it come
2:31:43
out cleaner but using but
changing some word now listen to
2:31:50
I get to I so big win and then I
so big win fix the play. I saw
2:31:55
big win and this is the clip I
wanted to fix.
2:31:57
Unknown: So a big way. Okay, so
a
2:32:01
John C Dvorak: big win. Yeah. So
a big win. big wig almost it was
2:32:06
so nice. But that's the problem
I have Adobe couldn't understand
2:32:09
it either. But he's but it was
big win.
2:32:12
Adam Curry: Okay, so here's the
Adobe product. Fixed Here we go.
2:32:17
Unknown: So I may weigh between
2:32:21
John C Dvorak: the big one a big
win big wing, the big wing
2:32:26
thanks to Adobe change when to
Wing Wing for nothing that's AI
2:32:31
for you. So now let's go to my
other one which is fact check
2:32:37
true
2:32:38
Unknown: fact check true
2:32:41
Adam Curry: na na na na nah,
this beats it. I mean, this is
2:32:46
just not enough of Taylor Swift
Come on. That's just that's the
2:32:49
that wins.
2:32:53
John C Dvorak: So I did a little
digging in this Taylor Swift
2:32:55
story.
2:32:57
Adam Curry: Why?
2:32:59
John C Dvorak: Because I'm
because this seems to me to be a
2:33:02
play by one public relations
firm to get NFL as one of their
2:33:06
clients because they have a
bunch of players and Taylor
2:33:09
Swift for some unknown reason is
probably write this up in the
2:33:13
newsletter. She is managed
publicity wise by us sports
2:33:18
management company that manages
athletes. Yeah. And she's there
2:33:24
among the athletes and this
makes nothing but sense that
2:33:27
they set her up with his a phony
boyfriend story, which is
2:33:30
Hollywood does all the time, of
course, but let's do it for the
2:33:33
NFL and get the numbers up. She
didn't show up in the last game.
2:33:36
We will never hear from her
again in the football era. And
2:33:40
she never was boyfriend
girlfriend bowl crap. But people
2:33:44
lapped it up.
2:33:46
Adam Curry: Do you have a clip
to go along with this or?
2:33:49
John C Dvorak: No, I use his
brother because you brought that
2:33:50
clip and I had to say something,
2:33:52
Adam Curry: just all your
assertions.
2:33:55
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I got
some I have some offbeat clips.
2:34:00
Adam Curry: Before we do
offbeat. Let's end with that. So
2:34:02
I can just depress everybody.
Well,
2:34:03
John C Dvorak: they're not
offbeat in that way. They're
2:34:05
their news clips that include
this one, which is Holland
2:34:09
climate change. Oh, here we go.
2:34:12
Unknown: And the Netherlands.
climate activists are
2:34:14
celebrating after lawmakers
Tuesday approved a motion
2:34:18
requiring the Dutch cabinet to
come up with a plan to phase out
2:34:21
fossil fuel subsidies. This
comes after a sustained campaign
2:34:25
by activists including a nearly
month long blockade of a major
2:34:28
highway this Lucas phenotypes of
extinction rebellion
2:34:33
Netherlands,
2:34:34
after a month long of daily
protests and more than 9000
2:34:38
arrests. The Dutch parliament
asked the Cabinet to come up
2:34:41
with scenarios for phase out of
fossil fuel subsidies during
2:34:45
this campaign we achieved
transformation I think of Dutch
2:34:49
society, with three quarters of
the people now wanting a phase
2:34:54
out of fossil fuel subsidies.
And even a third of the people
2:34:58
want immediate stuff out All
fossil fuel subsidies that is
2:35:02
the extinction rebellion demand.
So a big way. Yes.
2:35:07
Adam Curry: Let me tell you this
is some bull crap from the from
2:35:10
this ditch guy and I tell you
why. Okay, you ready for this?
2:35:14
This cabinet this cabinet fell a
while ago, so they cannot make
2:35:19
any laws or anything Intel
there's a new cabinet after
2:35:22
elections in November. So he is
full of vasavi coward. We call
2:35:27
it cow crap in Holland.
2:35:31
John C Dvorak: Well, the other
thing about that clip is that
2:35:34
they want to end fossil fuel
subsidies. What what is that?
2:35:40
It's not about ending fossil
fuel.
2:35:42
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter.
We got those idiots off of the
2:35:44
aid valve. It was annoying. We
couldn't shoot them with water
2:35:48
cannons because they were crying
all the time about it. So we
2:35:52
just say okay, you get something
from us go value children's cast
2:35:57
was actually pretty good. I
think I think I nailed that guy.
2:36:00
John C Dvorak: Nailed it. You
nailed it. You nailed it. You
2:36:03
will get nasty notes from some
of your Dutch. Oh,
2:36:06
Adam Curry: no, they agree. They
think they think it's all
2:36:09
annoying. Let's do something
depressing for a moment. And
2:36:14
then we'll do something funny.
You recall the well, actually,
2:36:18
you had the clips of the DNA
gene jock from the South
2:36:24
Carolina. What was it it was a
special hearing about COVID
2:36:32
About the vaccines about DNA
being in the
2:36:35
John C Dvorak: DNA being in the
vaccines and going into your
2:36:39
system as you know, recombinant
and putting it into your your
2:36:46
genetic material?
2:36:47
Adam Curry: Yes, none of this
seems to be doing very well for
2:36:49
a lot of people. And this same
ad hoc committee on the health.
2:36:55
Department of
2:36:56
John C Dvorak: Health seems to
be making a lot of people sick.
2:36:59
Adam Curry: Well, here is Dr.
Karen DeVore. She's a
2:37:02
dermatologist. Nice lady. two
parter.
2:37:06
Unknown: In the last two and a
half years since a vaccine has
2:37:09
been widely promoted. And many
patients have taken it out of
2:37:12
fear and isolation. The patients
who took the vaccine still get
2:37:18
COVID. And now I see patients
and I could not believe the
2:37:23
attorney whose spokesman said he
had heard the same thing because
2:37:26
in 30 years of practicing
dermatology, I've never heard
2:37:30
people describe their symptoms
this way. I am itching from my
2:37:34
bones out. I am on fire from the
inside. I see the most unusual
2:37:41
rashes and they don't respond
well to treatment. And they last
2:37:45
for months or years. I see
previously well controlled
2:37:49
autoimmune diseases like
psoriasis and eczema and lupus
2:37:54
now totally out of control. I
see your see aggressive, severe
2:37:59
shingles, it is more painful, it
is lasting longer. And this is
2:38:03
even in those who've had the
shingles vaccine. I see rapidly
2:38:08
growing skin cancers, including
basal cells that are just
2:38:12
supposed to be traditionally
very slow growing. I see
2:38:15
squamous cells, cutaneous
squamous cells that are
2:38:18
metastasizing much more often
than they ever did before. And
2:38:22
melanomas have become so unusual
and much harder to diagnose.
2:38:26
They are much more advanced at
presentation, and I have to
2:38:30
biopsy more and more things. And
it's all in vaccinated patients.
2:38:35
Adam Curry: So that's her
professional in her profession
2:38:38
in her field in the medical
profession. And he or she's
2:38:41
talking about just some other
ancillary things she has
2:38:44
noticed.
2:38:45
Unknown: And then beyond my
field, patients that I have seen
2:38:48
regularly for six to 12 months,
every six to 12 months for 30
2:38:52
years. They're aging more
rapidly. They've got unhealthy
2:38:55
weight loss, they keep their
balances bad, they're falling,
2:38:58
they're black and blue. They
can't get on an exam table. And
2:39:00
you see their medical updates as
they were in and they've had
2:39:04
atrial fibrillation, pacemakers,
heart attack strokes, blood
2:39:07
clots, pulmonary embolism,
Parkinsonism, ALS, tremors,
2:39:11
nerve policies, miscarriages,
infertility, did I mention
2:39:15
aggressive new ones that
cancers, recurrent stage four
2:39:19
cancers after 20 years of
remission? I know for people in
2:39:24
one small zip code in
Spartanburg that have rare
2:39:27
leukemias, three or four of them
are dead now, in over 30 years
2:39:32
of medical practice. I've
probably only known one or two
2:39:34
people who had Lou Gehrig's, or
ALS disease, and they were
2:39:38
distant and not really you know,
third or fourth contacts I now
2:39:41
know three people in my
immediate range of contact
2:39:45
Adam Curry: you know what's to
blame
2:39:50
John C Dvorak: Putin okay with
that, you're right. That was a
2:39:56
depressing clip. But
2:39:57
Adam Curry: now Now I'm going to
take you out of it. I'm taking
2:39:59
this
2:39:59
John C Dvorak: lie I still have
another news clip before you
2:40:01
take us out I was something
2:40:02
Adam Curry: no no because I want
you to end with something like
2:40:06
I'm going I don't have
2:40:07
John C Dvorak: something like I
have I have a what what clip
2:40:10
Adam Curry: Okay, do we want it
shouldn't that be the last clip
2:40:14
the what what clip?
2:40:15
John C Dvorak: Okay it's it's
actually a good last clip
2:40:18
because you go what
2:40:19
Adam Curry: will go what what
yep, yep. Here is Dr. Osterholm
2:40:24
that you know he has he has long
COVID Yes long COVID Yeah
2:40:28
John C Dvorak: the guy would
they got sick? Yeah right sick
2:40:30
as
2:40:30
Adam Curry: a dog. He was he was
the OG we're all gonna die. We
2:40:34
need to get vaccinated. met him
at Joe Rogan first time I went
2:40:38
on 3 million people gonna die.
Oh gee, he has a podcast. And oh
2:40:43
man COVID is it's all COVID.
2:40:45
Unknown: The researchers found
the SARS cov to can infect and
2:40:49
replicate and white blood cells,
leading to an inflammatory
2:40:52
response that is known to
increase the risk of heart
2:40:55
attacks and stroke. And this
elevated risk can last up to a
2:40:58
year after infection. In
additional research that has
2:41:01
been done, it has been
demonstrated that individuals up
2:41:04
to one year after their COVID
case, have an increased risk for
2:41:08
cardiovascular events,
cardiovascular events, as
2:41:13
specifically that is at least
seven times higher for COVID
2:41:17
related infections and for
influenza. We have been
2:41:20
observing an increase in heart
attacks and stroke with COVID 19
2:41:23
infections throughout the
pandemic. But until now, there
2:41:26
was no concrete biologic
evidence linking COVID-19 to
2:41:30
this increase, as the authors of
the paper explain their findings
2:41:34
provide for the first time a
direct mechanistic link between
2:41:38
COVID 19 infection and the heart
complications that provokes
2:41:43
Adam Curry: vascular problems.
We knew this, we knew this a
2:41:46
year of more than a year ago.
And we got it from these two
2:41:50
women. Do you know anything
about COVID Dix shrinkage?
2:41:53
Unknown: Yeah, okay, so remember
that it's proof it's COVID COVID
2:42:00
David dish rendering
2:42:02
John C Dvorak: that was I think
that was his shows off the rails
2:42:04
at that mark
2:42:06
Adam Curry: that's why I stopped
it all right. What give me some
2:42:10
light yeah
2:42:10
John C Dvorak: over the over
that guy over hold whatever the
2:42:14
hell is poster home Oh, Mr.
White He's making himself sick
2:42:18
at this point. I think you're
right that's a very good you
2:42:21
know how you can just get
yourself again using that term
2:42:24
spun up yeah, he's just doing it
to himself the poor guy I feel
2:42:28
sorry for him okay, this is this
is the update on Niger this our
2:42:33
African story right at the end
of the show, so people can't
2:42:36
complain you know, you can't is
it Niger on the show and we got
2:42:40
the funny stuff coming up after
this is Nigeria or nice air.
2:42:44
Nice air. Okay. So this is the
nice air clip and it just the
2:42:49
update and it's interesting
because of the very ending the
2:42:53
little ending at the end make
sure go what, here we go
2:42:56
Unknown: share, the first set of
French soldiers have started to
2:42:59
withdraw from the country after
orders by nushares military
2:43:03
junta following their July
takeover in the capital in the
2:43:07
AMA. Residents welcomed the
French soldiers departure
2:43:11
event today this batch of French
soldiers who arrived in who will
2:43:15
God willing shortly be taking to
the role to return home and is
2:43:20
only the culmination of a
struggle that the people have
2:43:23
engaged in. People are on their
feet to demand the departure of
2:43:28
the French soldiers from Niger
soil, because one thing is
2:43:32
certain Niger remains for the
people love Niger.
2:43:37
This comes as the US formally
designated the ouster of
2:43:40
President Mohammed Bazoom and
military takeover as a coup
2:43:43
suspending a two new Share. But
US officials say they do not
2:43:47
plan to remove any of its 1000
military personnel from new
2:43:51
Share.
2:43:53
John C Dvorak: What what I said?
What are we doing? We have we're
2:43:58
just so the French are rousted
and we still have our troops
2:44:01
there. And we don't plan to move
anything. Yeah, screw you. We
2:44:05
got our place and then we're
still you know, we're a kick ass
2:44:08
country. It's unbelievable.
2:44:14
Adam Curry: You know, they say
that the Empire is in decline,
2:44:17
and sometimes it kind of feels
like see
2:44:19
John C Dvorak: no evidence of
this.
2:44:23
Adam Curry: Well, maybe for you
in California, everything's all
2:44:25
hunky dory. I don't know. It's
not it's not feeling so great.
2:44:30
Unknown: But okay,
2:44:31
Adam Curry: there's no real
empire that EU they're in
2:44:34
decline. They're They're up
shits Creek. The EU has
2:44:37
reopened. I know. That's the
funny thing about it. Thanks to
2:44:42
us. Was that it? Was that was
that your end? That's the final
2:44:46
one. We'll do it.
2:44:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's an
Africa clips. So there you go.
2:44:49
Adam Curry: Good work. Well, I
don't think we have anything
2:44:51
else that I think we've we've
kind of covered it all. For
2:44:56
today as best we can as best we
can. Well, that's good news
2:44:59
because We're going to end
everything with oh man some end
2:45:05
of show mixes and we got
2:45:07
John C Dvorak: these are
beauties by the way for people
2:45:09
out there don't hang up I'm
going to do
2:45:11
Adam Curry: the bomb them again
mix those throw that in there
2:45:14
since it was topical. We got
Maddie J miracle wolf it's a
2:45:18
brand new ones. Up next I know
AGENDA stream.com We have let me
2:45:23
see. ABS and a six pack with Sir
seat sitter and special guests
2:45:28
midnight Mike from OB Diem.
Whoa, you do not want to miss
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that. at all, no agenda
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deconstruction on Sunday coming
to you from the heart of the
2:45:45
Texas hill country here in FEMA
Region number six in the
2:45:48
morning, everybody. I am Adam
curry,
2:45:50
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I think
2:45:53
we'd kind of get our summer
Finally, I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:45:56
Adam Curry: We return on
2:45:59
Unknown: Sunday. Right here.
2:46:03
Adam Curry: Please remember us
at devora.org/na Until then,
2:46:07
adios mofos who we who he adds
2:46:21
Unknown: I'm gonna I'm gonna
bomb bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna
2:46:27
I'm gonna bomb bomb out of I'm
gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb
2:46:34
bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
gonna.
2:47:25
You 30 to 50% of the population
had relations back to Germany.
2:47:44
So there had to be this very
clever propaganda campaign. It's
2:47:48
known today as babies on
bayonets.
2:47:53
I can think of my nephew
gathered in the mud, the bodies
2:47:57
of lifeless children suspected
of being poisoned in a chemical
2:48:01
attack, allegedly orchestrated
by their own government. We have
2:48:05
all seen
2:48:06
the reports of the terrible
chemical weapons attack in
2:48:09
Syria. They took the babies out
of incubators, and let the
2:48:13
children to
2:48:15
the incubators. And they were
thrown out of the incubators so
2:48:19
that Kuwait could be
systematically dismantled 14
2:48:23
babies and young children babies
being bathed in kill to even
2:48:27
beheaded
2:48:28
babies and toddlers were found
2:48:30
babies and young children with
their heads copper children with
2:48:34
their head
2:48:35
deep headed. Babies found
2:48:37
dead next to that carts that has
been
2:48:39
through for civilized countries
of this world to do everything
2:48:43
within their power to remove
this scourge. From the face of
2:48:50
our Earth,
2:48:50
emotions drive wars, not facts.
2:48:54
It is sort of evil that it's
beyond comprehension. Beyond the
2:48:57
Leon the lake.
2:49:01
It took the babies and
incubators
2:49:03
is a bomb.
2:49:04
This is a fuse. This bomb has to
be filled.
2:49:07
Thomas is the original snack.
Pay attention please. It's a
2:49:17
classic tale of an authoritarian
and this little tale of
2:49:25
extremism. And sadly, so many of
those extremists are determined
2:49:38
to return to a place where you
know people could be in charge
2:49:43
of their lives feel empowered,
say what they want. So it is
2:49:49
like a tautology.
2:49:55
In order to try to end our
democracy, there needs to be
2:49:59
more multiprogramming of the
cult members gun control and
2:50:06
climate change in the economy
and taxes. What is it you want
2:50:14
to make America great again?
Tonight don't say that
2:50:37
oppo vora.org/in A
2:50:42
there is just not enough of
Taylor Swift