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Adam Curry: partying like it's
1599 and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the country here in
FEMA Region number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all
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wondering where How and why did
Pete Davidson become a sex
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symbol? Jhansi Dvorak?
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Adam Curry: Wow, man, you guys
in California preoccupied with
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the wrong things? Nobody cares
about Pete Davidson anymore.
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John C Dvorak: Taco Bell does.
0:49
Adam Curry: Really? Is his air
commercial.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, a.
0:54
Adam Curry: How do you How are
you? What are you watching that?
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You get Taco Bell commercial? I
haven't seen Washington
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television
0:59
John C Dvorak: to look for
Eclipse. Mm hmm.
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Adam Curry: So we had to
speaking of Eclipse we had the
1:04
Eclipse yesterday. Yeah, we had
1:07
John C Dvorak: it too, though.
You had it too. Oh, yeah. We had
1:10
the was the 95% It wasn't full
like yours down there. But, boy,
1:14
I know your show isn't quite
100% full but you got one coming
1:17
in April. That's 100% And it's
gonna be in Texas. Yes.
1:20
Adam Curry: Yes. The 1% 100%
Well, the one yesterday was a
1:24
was judgeship was a total Jip
1:30
John C Dvorak: wasn't cool. No,
no, it wasn't cool. You know
1:32
what Chip is?
1:33
Adam Curry: Now we gotta we
gotta Ring of Fire. Okay, now,
1:36
that arc was what what, what,
what? What are you What are you
1:40
hiding from, but we had
1:41
John C Dvorak: cloud cover
through a bunch of fog. You got
1:46
to read it not only didn't get
dark, you wouldn't know it
1:49
didn't even happened.
1:51
Adam Curry: So Fredericksburg
was full. It wasn't like what we
1:54
expect for the full eclipse in
April. But it was full. And I
1:58
know it was full because we had
dinner with some new friends.
2:05
Remember, I told you I had my
birthday dinner? And this guy
2:08
bought us bought our dinner?
2:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the guy
from across the room. It won't
2:14
get Yeah.
2:15
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Anyway, so
they had they he has a ranch
2:22
like in Midland or something.
And he lives in Austin, but they
2:25
always come to Fredericksburg on
their way to the ranch. And, and
2:29
that's how we how we met them.
And they could they had to stay
2:32
at the Comfort Inn and we're
lucky to get a comfort in room,
2:35
which is almost a step below
LaQuinta everything was full,
2:39
but it wasn't over full crazy.
And you know, but people all I
2:42
ever do
2:42
Unknown: all. Ah ha. Ah,
2:49
Adam Curry: I just don't get it.
Why are people so fascinated by
2:54
it? By the Eclipse? What is it
that
2:56
John C Dvorak: the knives I've
seen a couple of them? I've seen
2:59
a lot of debate boys, and moon
and sun. And I did fun. It's
3:05
interesting. It was always
interesting. When you have a
3:08
full Eclipse, it actually
literally gets about 10 degrees
3:11
colder. Right on the spot. Yeah,
that didn't happen yesterday,
3:14
either. No, it didn't happen
here either. But normally, you
3:18
get this and as you can feel
it's like Oh, and by the way,
3:21
when that happens when everyone
out there gets to experience
3:24
this, like 10 degree drop in
temperature when the sun gets
3:26
fullest Eclipse for just a few
seconds. Thank yourself. Ah, the
3:30
sun has nothing to do with
global warming.
3:33
Adam Curry: Sure. Okay, well
speaking of that. So this new
3:38
friend, we're gonna call him
Paul, the tycoon oil tycoon.
3:44
John C Dvorak: So we had this
new friend of yours, it has to
3:46
be named in code.
3:48
Adam Curry: B, I haven't
discussed with him yet. And I
3:53
don't want to ruin my new
friendship just yet. So he had a
3:58
very successful Oil Company,
which he took public, and then
4:02
they sold it. And then he had a
year that he couldn't do
4:04
anything. They started a new
one. So it was no new oil
4:07
companies worth one and a half
billion dollars. You wouldn't
4:09
know looking at the guy. So this
is like, Oh, how interesting.
4:12
John C Dvorak: Texas
billionaires. They're all like
4:14
that. Yeah, exactly.
4:15
Adam Curry: And it's real. Like
he's a guy that has, you know,
4:17
like drills on the ground and
oil comes out. Yes. He's not a
4:24
wildcatter.
4:26
John C Dvorak: So wildcatters
wildcatter.
4:29
Adam Curry: And he says, and so
we're, you know, we're yapping
4:32
away and ESG comes up, he says,
ah, oh, gotta tell you about ESG
4:38
All right, says Guess who the
and this company is not yet
4:41
public. Guess what the number
one investor is in my in my my
4:46
company my oil spurting out of
the ground company. You get one
4:50
guest jump
4:57
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't have a
clue of what who to guess. I
4:59
mean, yeah. Microsoft I mean, I
don't know
5:01
Adam Curry: No, no. Did you talk
by in the troll room got it
5:03
right right off the bat,
BlackRock, BlackRock,
5:07
John C Dvorak: 50, blank row.
They're interested in everything
5:09
and it will count down, but
5:10
Adam Curry: they're the guys who
started the ESG program. This is
5:15
This is Larry Fink's baby. And
it's like all we owe, you know,
5:18
if you're, if you don't have a
high ESG score, then you're on
5:21
investable. And so he explained
the mechanics, he said, he
5:25
backed off on it, by the way
recently, yeah, a little bit,
5:28
but the ESG score hasn't gone
away. And if you have a low and
5:32
environmental, social government
governance, if you don't have
5:35
oh,
5:35
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's an oil
company. You should be low
5:38
score, you should
5:39
Adam Curry: be zero negative
score. So 50 million already in
5:43
another 50 million coming from
BlackRock. And my new friend
5:47
Paul, the oil tycoon says, the
ESG is phenomenal. It's great.
5:54
Because whenever they tell us
all bow climate change,
5:58
whatever, you got to close it,
well, boom, price goes up, we
6:02
make out like bandits. He says
it's a whole the whole thing.
6:08
It's a scam. He says when we had
the public company, it was
6:12
phenomenal. Oh, boy, we have to
close it well, oh, it's a
6:15
problem. Boom, stock price
rockets. To this whole thing is
6:21
a scapegoat. When
6:22
John C Dvorak: I look at the
evidence of this, take a look at
6:26
the chart for Exxon. And first
look at where Joe Biden was
6:34
elected and look at the stock
price then and look at it. He
6:36
also said
6:37
Adam Curry: specifically, he
says look, I don't like it for
6:40
our country in the world. But
Democrats are good for business
6:44
use. Whenever a Democrat in the
White House is good for us.
6:49
John C Dvorak: Tell it tell it
to the 90s that's when Clinton
6:52
was in Iraq and
6:53
Adam Curry: yeah, why don't you
soak in that for a bit? I love
6:58
saying that marinate in that
once you put that in your pipe
7:03
and smoke it I don't know about
you but there's nothing but
7:07
disinformation everywhere. The
whole world is full of
7:09
disinformation so all
disinformation everywhere.
7:11
disinformation. Now we have
reports about disinformation.
7:14
Just disinformation. It's crazy.
It's happening everywhere.
7:18
Hallie Jackson has to
7:20
John C Dvorak: report this
information. Miss Sally jelly
7:23
Adam Curry: who has all kinds of
weird sound effects on her show.
7:26
New into
7:26
Unknown: NBC tonight research.
And by the way at work
7:29
John C Dvorak: she mugs she has
a weird mugging face she's
7:33
mugging cow it constantly. She's
getting she's I don't know. I
7:38
find her annoying. Uh, well,
7:40
Adam Curry: hello is joined the
Halle annoying club. Yeah. And
7:44
this one her eyes roll. She's
all bug eyed. Because Whoa,
7:47
misinformation is a huge
problem.
7:50
Unknown: This new into NBC
tonight a research group
7:53
uncovering a network of dozens
of accounts, formerly known as
7:57
spread.
7:58
Adam Curry: Did you know that x
is formerly known as Twitter?
8:01
This, you know be outlawed this?
Why do they keep saying this?
8:06
When is it just going to be x?
8:08
John C Dvorak: But you can do
what I do. I don't use x I say
8:11
twitter.com. No,
8:13
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
saying x still twitter.com
8:17
Unknown: and dozens of accounts
on apps formerly known as
8:19
Twitter. spreading, spreading,
8:22
Adam Curry: spreading dating.
Oh, this is cool. What how did
8:24
she do that? How do you come up
with spreading?
8:27
John C Dvorak: Spreading dating?
8:29
Adam Curry: She said spread
dating. What is that all of us
8:31
spread what disseminating and
spreading? That's okay.
8:35
Spreading dating. I think it
should be it should be entered
8:37
into the dictionary. I like it.
It's
8:39
Unknown: of accounts on apps
formerly known as Twitter spread
8:41
knitting was spreading rather
which believed to be coordinated
8:44
posts with distinct,
8:46
Adam Curry: coordinated. Oh,
it's believed to be coordinated
8:49
posts and videos
8:50
Unknown: that have been viewed
millions of times. X started
8:53
suspending some of the accounts
after they were contacted by NBC
8:56
News but didn't otherwise have
any comment. It's something
8:58
we've seen a lot of over the
past few days. Oh, yeah.
9:02
Militants started a new
airstrike on Israel. You see
9:06
that? That's that video that is
actually from a video game. No,
9:09
no, that's not even really to
the exact same video posted to
9:12
YouTube hear you
9:13
Adam Curry: there's an obvious
conclusion to what they're doing
9:15
here. You and you know what's
coming.
9:17
Unknown: And there was this post
claiming Israel bombed and
9:19
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox
Church in Gaza. It has something
9:22
like 3 million views.
9:24
Adam Curry: It has something
like 3 million. What kind of
9:25
news report is that? And how
many views that it have not
9:28
something like that's something
like
9:30
John C Dvorak: $3 million. The
number is right there. You can
9:32
read it.
9:33
Adam Curry: Now she sounded like
a high school girl. It's
9:34
something that had something
like 3000 3 Million Likes now.
9:37
Unknown: And there was this post
claiming Israel bombed and
9:39
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox
Church in Gaza. It has something
9:42
like 3 million views, but the
church itself said it hasn't
9:46
been touched that any other news
is false. Now have disclaimers
9:50
on the bottom if you go to F and
look at the posts, but they're
9:52
not taken down and some of them
are posted from verified users,
9:56
making it harder for people to
know what's real. NBC News tech
9:58
correspondent Jake Ward Joining
us now and Jake these are just a
10:01
couple of examples of this these
posts containing misinformation
10:04
disinformation very difficult
especially in a moment like this
10:08
when people are frankly
desperate for information
10:11
turning to social media
platforms just there's not a
10:13
clear cut picture that
desperately is
10:15
not a clear cut picture Holly
the past few days, this vivid
10:19
lesson in the fact that you
literally cannot trust what
10:22
social media is. Even more
difficult is the surprise turn
10:28
of events which means that
legitimate sources of
10:31
information are slow to react
because they were taking just as
10:33
surprised as so many people were
across Israel. So a very, very
10:38
difficult moment but as you look
for raishin of of misleading
10:42
content, and when it's not just
made up as in the case of the
10:45
video game clip you're showing
there a middle it's out of
10:48
context or out of time Oh, it
trust us legitimate sources.
10:53
It's even hard for us people
trust legitimate sources.
10:57
John C Dvorak: And when you're
going on this route, because I
11:02
have a series of misleading
clips from provided by PBS I
11:10
love that which is beyond like
misinformation. It's a it's a
11:15
it's a lie.
11:16
Adam Curry: Well, let me set it
up. Let
11:17
John C Dvorak: me set it up with
keep no I want to hear more of
11:19
this.
11:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, another
misinformation clip. This is
11:22
from CBS a term fake
11:24
Unknown: news is a controversial
one controversial. It's often
11:28
used to falsely claim that the
facts someone doesn't like or
11:31
just made up. But actual fake
news takes on a new tone when
11:35
it's used as a weapon of war
when misinformation has already
11:39
cropped up in abundance in the
current conflict in the Middle
11:41
East. Jolene Kent has the story
11:44
Adam Curry: you see a similarity
here the M five and what they're
11:47
saying.
11:48
Unknown: Oh, as the wound was
real in Gaza
11:51
good start
11:54
John C Dvorak: there trying to
use misinformation and a random
11:56
explosion Yeah, how
11:57
Adam Curry: should we start this
report about misinformation? I
12:00
don't know blow something up.
Good one
12:02
Unknown: as the war in Israel in
Gaza plays out in real time on
12:05
social media. Experts say bad
information and propaganda are
12:09
spreading on X formally, Twitter
Oh,
12:12
Adam Curry: it's x again.
Formerly known as Twitter I
12:15
there's a pattern here it's
group
12:17
Unknown: aleafia detected a
network of at least 67 accounts
12:20
that posted false content about
the war faulty Russians millions
12:24
of views by now. excluding these
mistranslated videos of Russian
12:30
President Vladimir Putin and
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov,
12:34
you manipulated to falsely say
that Russia will support
12:37
Palestine if the US supports
Israel. Why are 67 accounts so
12:43
powerful in their influence? And
why do they not
12:46
Adam Curry: know they are? No
they are they're very powerful.
12:48
This is Elon his home business
model is now being attacked.
12:51
This is this is the point of
this
12:53
Unknown: and why do they matter?
It matters whether or not people
12:56
believe that and the more times
that people are able to view
12:59
content of a similarly, the more
opportunities an actor has to
13:04
convince somebody of something
that may or may not be for
13:07
Adam Curry: an actor George
Clooney was doing this. What
13:10
actor actor Brad Pitt This
13:12
Unknown: comes after Elon Musk,
the owner of X laid off much of
13:15
the team responsible for
monitoring. The European Union
13:22
sent this letter to the
billionaire asking Musk to
13:24
immediately remove illegal
content and disinformation.
13:28
Adam Curry: My name is God but
at all I have a habit bug it in
13:30
my book.
13:31
Unknown: Otherwise, penalties
can be imposed. How does this
13:34
disinformation impact the war?
And what we know about it
13:38
when we flood people with this
sea of unvetted information,
13:43
much of it deceptive, is we're
throwing away the goodwill of
13:47
our citizens. And we're opening
the door to a variety of people
13:51
that want to manipulate their
goodwill.
13:53
Do you anticipate seeing more of
this kind of activity as the war
13:57
continues? Oh, yes,
13:58
Adam Curry: of course. Yes.
13:59
Unknown: We do anticipate that
in the coming days that this
14:02
information sphere is going to
get updated and that more actors
14:06
will be weaponizing information.
14:10
Adam Curry: More and more
actors.
14:13
Unknown: What our history as
14:14
Adam Curry: she did it again,
did she just do again x formerly
14:17
known Twitter
14:18
Unknown: X. Formerly Twitter has
said as of Monday, they've
14:21
already removed several 100
accounts, including those that
14:24
are Hamas affiliated. Meantime,
we've been pressing the other
14:27
social media companies about
this. And Snapchat, Tik Tok and
14:30
Facebook all say they've
increased their resources to
14:33
fight disinformation.
14:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, please.
14:36
Adam Curry: So before, before we
get to your clips, I'm very
14:38
interested in those two things.
One, this is confirmed all right
14:42
now I don't have I don't have to
have the TIC tock app. People
14:45
send me tic TOCs all the time
and I open them in the browser.
14:48
And so what I do then every
single time after that tick tock
14:52
is done that one video, the
same. Horrific, violent clip
14:58
pops up from some Israeli kid
being killed at the at the at
15:04
the at the rave and my my buddy
Dave
15:07
John C Dvorak: he says it must
be your cookies
15:08
Adam Curry: no he didn't get it
well okay but I'm two people in
15:13
two different states are seeing
the same thing so I there's
15:18
those misinformation different
from from different from
15:20
Michigan now before we get
before we get into it before we
15:23
go any further with this talking
about this conflict what's
15:26
happening in the Middle East
15:27
John C Dvorak: Adams gonna read
his email by area fine there's
15:32
the old clip
15:34
Adam Curry: it's called a
cigales from the gym
15:36
Unknown: who's gonna read his
email
15:39
Adam Curry: on the no agenda.
That's not tedious. I want to
15:47
remind everybody that when we
deconstruct these things, same
15:52
with COVID lockdowns you,
Ukraine. It is it is masks, it
15:59
is bad for business. It is not a
great business model that we
16:05
have. It's not like people go
oh, yeah, this is great. No,
16:10
people walk away from the show.
They go,
16:13
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've been I
bought in hook line and sinker
16:16
and they're telling me I'm
wrong. You guys suck.
16:19
Adam Curry: I has been listening
to your show no agenda for two
16:24
to four years. That's Wait, wait
16:27
John C Dvorak: two to four
years.
16:28
Adam Curry: That's an interest.
Very interesting range. Never
16:31
heard to two to four years and
I've always enjoyed it. However,
16:37
your coverage of the atrocities
by the monstrous Hamas,
16:42
including the beheading of
innocent babies, babies torn
16:46
from their mother's bellies is
so appalling. So I, I don't
16:53
recall babies torn from their
mother's bellies to new one.
16:58
There is indeed ample footage
pictures to prove what happened.
17:02
And your glib laughter was one
your glib laughter with John,
17:07
well, there are no words, you're
excused that you're just
17:12
evaluating the media coverage is
cheap, and not even believable.
17:17
To say I'm disappointed and
disgusted would be an
17:19
understatement.
17:22
John C Dvorak: I want to remind
people out there who have these
17:24
kinds of complaints, send them
to Adam because he'll read him
17:27
on the air.
17:31
Adam Curry: You know, it's it's
taken on a whole new level, you
17:33
know, the mid curry.com. You
know, the, you know, that dude
17:37
who was so mad about when we
started talking about trans
17:41
Maoism.
17:42
John C Dvorak: Tim Poole now?
No,
17:45
Adam Curry: I iron iron hide.
1970 Mike Ironhide 1972 He was
17:51
it was he was putting pictures
up on Norwegian art generator
17:54
that we suck. It was your post?
Oh,
17:56
John C Dvorak: yeah, we I think
we bounced him that way.
17:58
Adam Curry: I died. I mean,
Paul, pocket two are bouncing
18:02
from that. But they showed up in
the troll room last show. So now
18:06
I get an email from one of our
producers who happens to also
18:12
own the venue where he's
organizing the a meet up. It's a
18:17
burger joint. And the email he
received which I'm sure many
18:22
John C Dvorak: the hater, you're
talking about organizing a
18:23
meeting? No, no, no, no.
18:25
Adam Curry: One of our producers
who's organizing a meetup who
18:28
organizes one regularly who has
a venue he owns the venue in
18:32
this case, as the venue owner,
he received an email from the
18:36
hater. Okay, letting you know
that a group from the no agenda
18:40
podcast will be at your
establishment on October 14 at
18:44
5pm this group follows a very
homophobic and transphobic
18:49
podcast. I would use all caution
when serving these people.
18:56
John C Dvorak: Wow.
18:59
Adam Curry: That was a good wow.
That was a very good wow,
19:02
John C Dvorak: that's a very
good while because that's a wow
19:04
moment. Yeah, so this prick
that's calm where he is.
19:09
Besides, he doesn't like to show
for whatever reason. Oh, noes
19:14
are after the venue for the
meetup. But coincidentally, the
19:18
venue is owned by the guy
organizing the meetup. So he
19:21
sends the mail right on to us,
which you just read. That is
19:25
unbelievable. That guy is a true
a whole I wish these people
19:30
wouldn't even listen to the
show. They get better things to
19:32
do. There's other shows that can
go to well, this I harass us,
19:37
because they're white trying to
ruin a good meet up. I mean,
19:40
come on. That's sick. I actually
19:41
Adam Curry: tried to talk him
off the ledge when this first
19:43
started and I was emailing him
personally and then he decided
19:46
that the prick Yeah, then he
then he published all my emails.
19:51
I'm like, Dude, I pray for him.
I go, I forgive him. I forgive
19:56
him. He has issues I forgive
him. I hope it works out for
19:59
him. All right now won't now on
to your your disinfo clips from
20:05
NPR which I'm very excited for
PBS it was our I'm sorry I mean
20:09
NPR PBS I mean
20:11
John C Dvorak: yeah what diverse
is a second let's
20:13
Adam Curry: do it let's do it
right
20:15
Unknown: elitist voices of
America this is NPR or PBS
20:22
Adam Curry: doesn't matter
20:24
John C Dvorak: so a couple of
these I got some intro ones that
20:27
we can go into which is the
Brooks and K part.
20:31
Adam Curry: Oh Mike you know,
I'm gonna have to start banning
20:34
these these these clips because
I'll blame me Oh, but nobody
20:37
watches this anymore. They have
zero traction. They don't they
20:42
still think it's Brooks and Dunn
20:47
Unknown: never was Brooks.
20:49
Adam Curry: That's a country
duo. What's what's Brooks
20:53
John C Dvorak: Garth Brooks?
What's the other guy? A key part
20:58
before before
20:59
Adam Curry: before K part who
was at the shields? Oh, Brooks
21:02
and shields see we don't even
remember the old guys
21:04
John C Dvorak: I remember.
21:05
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Okay some
point all right, let's go but
21:09
what are we
21:09
John C Dvorak: examples I'm
gonna lead into the into the to
21:13
the egregious re edited clip.
I'm sorry. They used to become a
21:19
gassed and pissed off. And it's
ridiculous. But let's firstly
21:23
get us in the mood by listening
to these two boneheads in the
21:26
mood in the mood. This is start
I'm gonna start with Brooks
21:30
Putin Hamas.
21:32
Unknown: For I thought this was
one of Joe Biden's best weeks as
21:34
president. You know, he was a
was a moral clarity.
21:38
Adam Curry: That's great. Right
there. He's better. He said,
21:42
Hey, I've seen proof of the
babies decapitated. It's true.
21:45
It's right. It's certified
verify? Oh, I'm sorry. No, the
21:48
President was confused.
21:49
Unknown: He was one of the early
voices to remind everybody that
21:52
what Hamas has become looks like
ISIS sort of a death cult. He
21:55
did in the face of divisions on
the left. There are a lot of
21:58
mainstream liberals who are
appalled by what happened there
22:00
more progressive voices, many
who think this is a legitimate
22:04
part of decolonization. And
yeah, Joe Biden has knows
22:07
Israeli history. He knows the
Palestinians. He's been doing
22:10
this for a long time. And he
knows that this is a case of
22:14
someone who wants to have a
group that wants to destroy
22:16
Israel and push the Jews into
the sea. And so he said that it
22:21
is also making the case which I
think Solinsky is a little ahead
22:23
of him on Ukraine and Israel,
the Morgans Tomas and against
22:28
Putin are joined their wars
against barbarism.
22:31
Adam Curry: What? Yeah. What did
he say
22:36
John C Dvorak: that Putin in
Hamas are the same? Ukraine and
22:42
Israel is the same. Wow. Wow.
Okay. Yeah.
22:46
Adam Curry: It's the same. It's
the same except the reverse, but
22:49
John C Dvorak: we can't actually
say it's the same. It's the same
22:52
Hello. So
22:53
Adam Curry: you have a big
country like Russia is just like
22:55
Hamas? The big country and the
big country, the big the big
23:00
elephant in the fight? Okay. All
right. Okay, good.
23:03
John C Dvorak: Let's go Brooks
to K part two.
23:06
Unknown: And I think he sees
that clearly. And so I just
23:09
think it was it was just a
marvelous display, moral
23:11
clarity, and real storytelling.
For a guy who stories grand
23:15
narrative storytelling, and
rhetoric is not always the great
23:18
gift, but I just thought
magnificent
23:20
moral clarity and grand
storytelling. What's your
23:22
assessment of the
administration's response?
23:24
I agree with with David 100%.
President, it's the Secretary of
23:29
State who spoke from the heart
next to Prime Minister Netanyahu
23:35
and Secretary of Defense Lloyd
Austin being there earlier in
23:40
the day today also showing
solidarity but i What happened a
23:46
week ago, tonight or tomorrow is
really it's beyond disturbing.
23:52
And I I just feel compelled. You
know, as an African American, I
23:57
understand the ancestral pain
and terror felt by my Jewish
24:05
friends and Jews around the
world by what happened this was
24:09
not what Hamas did was not the
usual Middle East back and
24:14
forth. This was barbaric.
24:17
Adam Curry: This is literally
what you get called out for. If
24:20
you say I have a black friend.
You know, that's, that's a raw
24:25
take. No, but you can see I have
a Jewish friend but oh, that's
24:28
Dr. Jewish friend. Okay.
24:30
John C Dvorak: Another Jewish
friend.
24:30
Adam Curry: I got Jewish friend.
Oh, man. That's not so
24:35
John C Dvorak: they're pushing
this barbaric thing. So, of
24:37
course, so they are building up
to this and now I'm going to
24:40
take us into the to the
egregious editing of a Trump
24:44
clip to make him say stuff he
didn't say and I have the
24:47
original clips. I dug them up.
Okay, the way we do Yes, and I
24:51
want to compare one to the other
but let's start but it's also
24:54
the reaction first they edit it
clip, and then they react to it
24:58
even though the clips of fake If
they react to it and they go
25:02
out, they go off the rails with
how bad Trump is as a person.
25:05
This is the the intro to this
clip and this is Brooks Trump
25:09
edit intro as we
25:10
Unknown: talk about the Biden
administration's response and
25:13
response his predecessor Donald
Trump drew why criticism and
25:16
condemnation this past week for
faulting Netanyahu for calling
25:20
Hezbollah very smart in his
remarks.
25:23
Adam Curry: Oh, it's another
it's a new very fine people is
25:25
the very smart people. Now this
is good. This is good. Okay,
25:30
where do we go now?
25:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, so first of
all, he makes a mention he that
25:35
that's the host guy, the black
guy, postgame he mentions the
25:41
Netanyahu and then he mentioned
that, that Trump says Hezbollah
25:47
is very smart. And now we go to
they take the clip of a butcher
25:52
a clip, and they don't even have
it from the same feed. So it's a
25:55
mess. And I tried to even clean
it up with Adobe. But to hell
25:59
with it. Let's leave the mess
with the way it is because Adobe
26:02
actually doesn't work on Trump.
No interest. Very, I've noticed
26:06
this before. Adobe does not work
on Trump. They hate Trump. He
26:12
must. So they probably do.
Silicon Valley. So let's go to
26:16
this is the Brooks Trump and
this got the edited clip this is
26:19
to Okay,
26:21
Unknown: I'll never forget that
Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
26:25
was a very terrible thing. I
will say that it is a GI Oh, PES
26:29
Villa desert attacks on the
north, because that's the most
26:33
vulnerable status.
26:40
And we can contrast that to what
Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley had
26:43
to say,
26:44
Israel has a right to defend
itself. And that means do that
26:48
to the hilt. You have to uproot
the terrorist infrastructure,
26:51
these networks, and Hamas needs
to be no more this is sick, and
26:56
we
26:56
have to treat sick people the
way they deserve to be treated
26:58
and eliminate them.
26:59
Your response to what Donald
Trump had to say.
27:02
The clip you showed is exhibit
number, whatever it is, of why
27:09
he should never ever again be
entrusted with the power and
27:13
responsibility that comes with
sitting in the Oval Office. I am
27:17
happy to be wrong about the
reaction from the Republican
27:21
presidential field. I thought
they would follow form and not
27:26
criticize Trump at all for fear
of engendering rage of their
27:31
base. But Governor Haley,
Governor DeSantis, Governor
27:37
Christie, former Vice President
Mike Pence, most of them
27:42
criticize Trump, and I applaud
them for that. But there's no
27:45
way that guy should be President
of the United States, again, by
27:49
back clip alone.
27:50
Adam Curry: So you know, when we
deconstruct clips, and we're
27:53
looking at the media and we get
another kind of feedback I read
27:57
earlier, these a holes are just
politicizing it for their own
28:00
for their own ego, whatever it
is, oh, whatever it is, let's
28:04
keep Trump out. That's That's
disgusting.
28:10
John C Dvorak: waiting to hear
their original Trump clips. I
28:12
can't wait. We can also play I
think Brookes reaction to this
28:16
same edited little clip where he
says Netanyahu, first Trump
28:20
brings in Netanyahu then he says
Hezbollah smart. And this says
28:25
they're gonna attack from the
north or something. It's a very
28:27
confused, it's a really screwed
up edit. And then they bring in,
28:34
as you heard DeSantis talking
about a Hamas, which is not what
28:37
Trump was talking about. And
then Nikki Haley saying it's
28:40
these people are sick, kind of
indicating that Trump
28:43
Adam Curry: is sick, which is
not what that was about at
28:45
John C Dvorak: all. That was not
what that was about. So this is
28:48
a real real hack job hack job.
Exactly. And here's the follow
28:54
up by Brooks.
28:55
Unknown: It's also a reminder of
how Donald Trump's isolationist
28:59
views have really realigned the
Republicans approach to foreign
29:02
policy.
29:03
It's stunning. I mean, it well,
first that Donald Trump clip,
29:06
everything is about Donald
Trump, like 1000 People get
29:10
murdered, and it's all about
Donald Trump. And the party has
29:13
you know, it was the party of,
of anti communism. It was the
29:17
party of American led world
order. It was the party of
29:21
containment against Russia
against the Soviet Union. And
29:24
now it's very much the opposite.
And as I look at the Republican
29:26
Party, I just want to make sure
they're gonna fund Ukraine
29:34
John C Dvorak: so now, these are
two guys that are supposed to be
29:36
arguing with each other to give
people perspective when they
29:40
watch the PBS NewsHour, right.
And but no, there are two guys
29:42
that are in total agreement.
Neither one of them are
29:45
representative of anything other
than one lone pro Ukraine view,
29:50
but just go back to that clip
that they butchered and listen
29:53
to Trump's actually this is a
long clip, but you need to hear
29:57
the whole thing in context. The
six This is actually a good
30:01
sorry, this isn't good. This is
good quality. This is the Trump
30:03
unedited comments regarding
Hezbollah being smart
30:07
Unknown: for $6 billion was a
tremendous amount of money, but
30:10
nothing compared to the hundreds
of billions of dollars that
30:14
Biden allowed them to make and
oil and other things, hundreds
30:17
of billions that became a rich
nation in three years. That's
30:21
why they're doing this f so much
money. They don't know what to
30:23
do with it. They had no money,
they were broke. And then there
30:27
was the inevitable attack four
days later, which I predicted.
30:31
And then two nights ago, I read
all of Biden security people,
30:35
can you imagine National Defense
people? And they said, Gee, I
30:39
hope Hezbollah doesn't attack
from the north. Because that's
30:43
the most vulnerable spot. I
said, Wait a minute. You know,
30:46
Hezbollah is very smart. They're
all very smart depressant, like
30:49
when they say, you know, I said
that President Xi of China, 1.4
30:53
billion people, he controls it
with an iron fist. He said he's
30:56
a very smart man. They killed me
the next day. I said he was
31:00
smart whenever I get a say. But
his was diverse. And they have a
31:05
national defense minister or
somebody saying I hope Hezbollah
31:10
doesn't attack us from the
north. So the following morning,
31:13
they attacked, they might not
have been doing it. But if you
31:15
listen to this jerk, you would
attack from the north because he
31:20
said that's our weak spot.
Whoever heard of official saying
31:24
on television that they hope the
enemy doesn't attack in a
31:27
certain area. Now unless it's a
con job. But you know what a con
31:32
job is you're waiting. They're
ready. You want them if you want
31:35
to, but they weren't ready. They
weren't ready. You know, say
31:38
what you want. Israel was not
ready. This was a big surprise.
31:41
This was a terrible thing that
happened. They weren't ready.
31:44
But if you wanted them to attack
because you've got a million
31:47
people there with guns and
you're gonna blast to hell, then
31:50
you do exactly, but they didn't
have that. They didn't have that
31:54
Biden's National Security
Adviser Jake Sullivan, even
31:57
bragged just days before the
attack that the Middle East
32:01
seems to be quite quiet. That
was good. They really, they
32:04
really, honestly what they've
done. It's a shame.
32:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, now,
what couple of things about
32:13
that, oh, this is all in
context. It's fine. What he
32:16
said, Whoa, he's not
complimenting Hezbollah, like
32:20
they also like to imagine, but
what did you notice? There was
32:23
no mention of Netanyahu in that
entire
32:25
Adam Curry: letter. They edited
that together. So that and it
32:27
was in the intro piece. It was
two different pieces of audio.
32:31
That's the first thing I
noticed. Yeah,
32:33
John C Dvorak: it was they did a
botch job. I mean, they could
32:36
have had good quality because it
was all from the same speech. In
32:38
fact, I have the Netanyahu
piece, and the Netanyahu piece,
32:42
which they just pulled out of
context and dropped it in as a
32:45
cheat as a as a sleazy lowest
form of journalism thing you
32:50
could possibly do, which they
did on PBS. I have the Netanyahu
32:55
piece, which actually stand
alone is very interesting and
33:00
could have been used as a
jumping off point for a big
33:03
discussion. And I'm surprised
that they didn't do that because
33:06
it's more interesting than what
they did, which was just Trump
33:09
batch. But listen to this. This
is Trump on on Netanyahu. It's a
33:14
backgrounder. That's kind of
interesting.
33:16
Unknown: The savage attacks on
Israel happened for three
33:19
reasons Biden loosen might
33:21
Adam Curry: not the grudge clip.
This is the regular live show. I
33:24
John C Dvorak: used to grudge
clip.
33:27
Unknown: I did have a bad
experience with Israel, though.
33:29
When we took out Soleimani. It
was us at Israel working as a
33:33
group. And we knew where he was.
We knew how he was coming in. We
33:38
knew the plane. We knew
everything. We worked on it for
33:41
weeks for months, actually. But
we worked on it for weeks. The
33:45
night before? Nope, I didn't I
don't think this has ever been
33:48
told. They'll say oh, it's
classified information. Well,
33:51
maybe it is. But I don't think
so. Israel was going to do this
33:55
with us. And it was being
planned and working on it for
33:58
months. And now we had
everything all set to go. And
34:02
the night before it happened. I
got a call that Israel will not
34:07
be participating in this attack.
Let's do it. And he came on the
34:12
plane and we follow them right
from the Situation Room. We
34:15
followed the whole thing and
about 15 seconds later it was
34:20
all over. And we did it but I'll
never forget. I'll never forget
34:26
that Bibi Netanyahu let us down
that was a very terrible thing.
34:30
I will say that we were
disappointed by that very
34:33
disappointed but we did the job
ourselves and it was absolute
34:36
precision. magnificent,
beautiful. And then maybe tried
34:41
to take credit for it. That
didn't make me feel too good but
34:45
that's all right. So they gotta
strengthen themselves up.
34:49
Adam Curry: Wow, that's that is
a little piece of info we didn't
34:52
know about.
34:53
John C Dvorak: We had no idea
but he noticed a little part in
34:56
that clip versus BB let us down
is the little piece they took
34:59
out They chopped it from that
and put it on the front end of
35:03
the other.
35:04
Adam Curry: Let's play that
intro again,
35:06
Unknown: as we talk about the
Biden administration's response
35:08
response, his predecessor Donald
Trump drew wide criticism and
35:12
condemnation this past week for
actually the beginning because
35:14
it's too hard to
35:15
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah,
35:16
Unknown: I'll never forget that
Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
35:20
was a very terrible thing. I
will say that and they said gee,
35:24
I hope Hezbollah doesn't attack
from the north.
35:26
Adam Curry: Wow, that I mean,
you should you should be fired
35:31
from journalism for doing that.
35:33
John C Dvorak: They should all
be fired from PBS should PBS
35:37
should take a knee for for this
is the one of the most egregious
35:41
examples of editing. And false
it's this is misinformation,
35:47
misinformation.
35:48
Adam Curry: Yes. Blatant,
blatant on your national
35:52
treasure PBS or NPR. So I'm one
of those two, same thing.
35:56
John C Dvorak: So those are the
original clips and you can see
35:58
that they they totally, this is
a lie. And Brooks and K part
36:03
should be ashamed of themselves
for going along with it. And
36:06
then making a big fuss about
what a jerk Trump is.
36:09
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. It's
not unbelievable. It's
36:11
believable. It's totally booked.
No, it's
36:12
John C Dvorak: not unbelievable,
because it's happened
36:14
believable. Yeah. So that's
good. Good presentation.
36:19
Adam Curry: I like it. I like
it. Well, of course, we were
36:23
told
36:23
John C Dvorak: and I want to say
it again. Do not send your money
36:26
to these people send it to us.
Yes,
36:29
Adam Curry: we don't have tote
bags, but we can use the money,
36:31
that's for sure. So of course
everybody was all riled up about
36:35
the Day of Rage this
36:36
Unknown: morning law enforcement
officers across the country on
36:39
heightened alert after Hamas has
called for a Global Day of Rage.
36:44
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's
Office is pulling personnel from
36:47
specialized units to increase
visibility. In New York
36:54
congregates from dozens of
synagogues prayed for peace as
36:58
helicopters watch for suspicious
vehicles from above
37:01
and boats with radiation
detectors patrolled the waters.
37:04
The NYPD telling its officers to
prepare for 12 hour shifts.
37:09
We have directed the NYPD to
surge additional resources to
37:13
schools houses of worship to
assure that they are safe.
37:20
John C Dvorak: So as far as I
know, they got some day I got a
37:22
Day of Rage clip. Okay. What's
his? Well,
37:28
Adam Curry: there's always
something going on in the world.
37:30
Yeah, there's something
37:30
John C Dvorak: that's why I
think this is a good example.
37:32
This is the various 13th which
is the de river Okay, right.
37:36
stabbings.
37:37
Unknown: A Jewish teacher in
France is reportedly dead after
37:41
a knife attack to others have
been injured and asylum seeker
37:45
reportedly went on a stabbing
spree attacking various people
37:49
screaming
37:49
Adam Curry: alone notice notice
we've gone to asylum seekers now
37:53
which is the it's the word they
use in Europe. We're going to
37:55
use it everywhere. It does be
using this for years asylum
37:58
seeker. Asylum Seeker
38:00
Unknown: reportedly went on a
stabbing spree attacking various
38:03
people screaming Allahu Akbar,
France's President Emmanuel
38:07
Macron visited the school on
Friday afternoon. Also a staffer
38:12
at the Israeli embassy in China
was stabbed on the sidewalk in
38:16
Beijing for the chose the
diplomat being stabbed multiple
38:19
times by a man and white
38:23
Adam Curry: so that was your Day
of Rage not very successful, but
38:25
they got us all riled up I think
kind of everybody
38:28
John C Dvorak: get me riled up.
Somebody riled up didn't get
38:31
riled Oh, would you must have a
clip
38:32
Adam Curry: no agenda, people
don't know no agenda. People
38:34
don't get riled up. We just
don't get riled up. We don't
38:37
because we know we know what
they're doing to us. Now, I want
38:41
to talk about the military
industrial complex. A lot of
38:43
people benefit from this, this
crisis in the Middle East. I
38:46
just got an A message, I should
say, from Sir Brian of London,
38:51
boots on the ground. Who, you
know, there's this funerals this
38:56
guy's attending. He is right in
the middle of it, though, and
39:00
I've been back and forth with
him for days and he's having a
39:03
rough go of what's happening.
And, and he sent a video and he
39:09
has on his and I take his
credibility quite high. He's
39:12
He's a night that Israel is now
using the laser iron beam. Not
39:20
Iron Dome, but the iron beam.
And it's cool that they have a
39:25
laser now shooting things out of
the sky. Yep, yep.
39:28
John C Dvorak: Okay, there's a
couple of things before you go
39:30
into these clips. Did you see
the Richard angle clip that's
39:34
going around showing how the
Iron Dome supposedly works? You
39:39
see these missiles flying into
the air and then they're taking
39:41
a right turn and going in the
opposite direction. Have you
39:46
seen those clips? Well, I've
39:47
Adam Curry: seen it I don't know
if it's the one you're talking
39:48
about. I've seen
39:49
John C Dvorak: similar probably.
I just don't understand what's
39:52
going on with these clips
because there was always the
39:54
iron Iron Dome at work. Missile
going up and then turning around
40:00
Ronnie going the other way I
thought the Iron Dome was was
40:03
Patriot missiles that were
shooting these things out of the
40:05
sky.
40:06
Adam Curry: That's what I
thought, well not but now they
40:08
have, you can see laser beams.
In fact, Jewish laser beams. I
40:13
mean, it's a little crazy. But
I'm sure they're ours. But these
40:17
have directed energy weapons now
they're using which is it's
40:21
quite like whoa, okay, I didn't
expect to see that. Anyway, we
40:25
need to go to the military
industrial complex, which the
40:29
both of these people are part of
it in some way. Catherine
40:31
herridge, of course, the pixie
girl who was read in on all
40:35
things, military and
intelligence and John Bolton who
40:38
is just a huge moustache aihole.
And just a quick couple of clips
40:42
here because you know, you don't
hear from this guy for years,
40:45
and he's off the stage. But he's
back
40:47
Unknown: earlier today I spoke
with former national security
40:50
adviser to President Trump
Ambassador John Bolton about the
40:53
situation in the Middle East. As
we head into the weekend as a
40:57
former national security
adviser, what indicators are you
41:00
going to be watching?
41:01
Well, I think the big unknown
question at this point is what
41:04
happens with Hezbollah in the
north? I think the evidence is
41:08
clear beyond real dispute here
that the signal caller in this
41:12
operation is Iran. They armed
and prepared Hamas. I think they
41:17
unleashed him at a time they
thought it would be beneficial
41:19
to Iran in the Iran issue is Rod
part of the strategy that
41:24
they're following is to get the
Israelis sucked into Gaza in a
41:28
very heavy way, militarily, and
then to unleash Hezbollah from
41:32
the North. I think there are
some signs along the northern
41:36
border. Nothing conclusive, but
I think that's the main point of
41:39
danger at this point. Yes. Okay.
41:41
Adam Curry: Um, thanks. I mean,
my my sister in Italy could have
41:44
gone on on your show and said
that. Let's go a little deeper
41:49
into that.
41:50
John C Dvorak: Bring her on next
time. She's,
41:52
Adam Curry: yeah, get on
Catherine herridge. Let's get
41:54
this. Let's get John Bolton,
you're so interesting.
41:56
Unknown: Let's take that a step
further. Given the scope and the
41:59
sophistication of the Hamas
attack. Do you believe that
42:04
another shoe is going to drop
42:06
Adam Curry: Oh, another shoe is
gonna drop?
42:08
Unknown: I think it's very
likely. And I think Hezbollah is
42:10
the most likely implementer of
that. But there may be terrorist
42:14
attacks around the region.
Friday has been declared a day
42:17
of jihad in the region and
around the world. And so this
42:20
this really could be the
beginning of a much longer
42:23
process here. What that will
entail, but I think anybody who
42:28
thinks hold on to the over in a
few days, unfortunately,
42:31
mistaken nothing happened.
Bolton
42:33
Adam Curry: Yeah, nothing. He's
such a prognosticator
42:36
John C Dvorak: genius. Oh, as a
jihad day. Yeah.
42:41
Adam Curry: Take a long time.
We're gonna need some money and
42:43
start printing some money. We
need money. We mean money.
42:46
Unknown: What does it mean here
at home, law enforcement
42:49
officials have been telling CBS
News and other media outlets
42:52
that they're seeing no signs of
a specific or credible threat.
42:55
Adam Curry: This is so much fun
to play that after the global
42:57
day at rage.
42:58
Unknown: I think at the moment
the main threat area is in the
43:02
Middle East. I think it's
Israel. It's the target, but I
43:05
think it's almost certain that
having wow wow,
43:11
John C Dvorak: wow, what a
genius.
43:13
Unknown: Look at my moustache. I
think it's almost certain that
43:17
having missed this attack to
begin with, not just Israeli
43:20
intelligence. But but our own
intelligence community, whatever
43:26
evidence there was, they didn't
draw the right conclusions. You
43:29
know, the next question you
should ask is What else have we
43:32
missed? What
43:32
Adam Curry: else have we missed?
Oh, we need more spy gear was
43:36
not good. You know, I just as a
as a little side note here. This
43:43
is fantastic story which checks
out and I'm not gonna say it's
43:46
related to it per se. But you've
heard of Pegasus. The spyware
43:52
Pegasus, the company Pegasus? I
think so. So Pegasus was, you
43:56
know, that's the Israeli spyware
that's on everybody's phone and
44:00
they've sold it all around the
world. Our our US agencies were
44:03
using a Pegasus is great. You
can be track everybody. You got
44:07
to phone Pegasus is on it. So
when, when Trump came in, and
44:13
the Obama Biden administration
left the Blinken and who is the
44:21
assistant deputy director of CIA
Avril Haines, I think is her
44:27
name Haidee something could be
they all started a lobbying firm
44:33
called West executive. And they
started lobbying for a competing
44:38
firm. And that firm was also
with a P. O a second
44:47
John C Dvorak: that Palantir
44:48
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
no, this is all follow up
44:50
topology Palantir now they
started lobbying of course it's
44:54
great when when you lobby you
know, as a former
44:58
administration, prepare Gone
Paragon was was call and they
45:03
started loving all Paragon we
gotta get you got to have
45:05
Paragon and and you know this is
no good this this Pegasus
45:10
software. And coincidentally, if
you recall the big stink about
45:16
Khashoggi was that it was
Pegasus software that the
45:21
Israeli Pegasus company had sold
to Saudi Arabia that got him
45:26
killed. You remember that?
Remember that?
45:28
John C Dvorak: Vaguely remembers
it?
45:31
Adam Curry: Yeah. So that was
probably planted by these guys
45:33
because they get back in with
Biden. And in March of this
45:37
year, Biden writes up this huge
executive order on prohibition
45:41
on use by the United States
government of certain commercial
45:44
spyware that poses risks to
national security. And when you
45:48
know, that was written precisely
to outlaw Pegasus, and have this
45:53
other software be the software
and they haven't sold it to
45:56
Saudi Arabia. So it's just a
little side note. But when you
46:00
have the Israeli government
highly relying on one software,
46:06
for spying on anybody with a
phone, and that's Pegasus, and
46:12
all of a sudden, it's no good
and everyone has to have Paragon
46:15
and that company starts to bleed
employees bloat bleed clients,
46:19
that may have contributed in
some way to some lapses in
46:24
security. I have no proof for
that. But I just thought that
46:27
was interesting that Sullivan
and all these eight holes,
46:30
including Ehud Barak, they were
all involved in in this lobbying
46:34
firm, and then they get in and
boom, there you go. They get rid
46:37
of that company. And this new
company is supposed to be it and
46:40
I don't even know if the
Israelis are using it. Now, just
46:43
a little side note. So when
Bolton says, oh, yeah, baby
46:49
lapse and security, maybe our
lap, maybe it was a shitty
46:51
software you brought in
46:52
Unknown: why are the
46:54
John C Dvorak: US or no lapse in
security? That also possible?
46:57
Unknown: What are the US
government's best options to
47:01
secure the release of the
hostages bomb Iran?
47:04
Well, I think at this point,
unfortunately, given how caught
47:09
by surprise we were, that it's
going to take rescue efforts
47:12
under extraordinary
extraordinarily difficult
47:15
circumstances. I mean, I think
the administration is correct to
47:18
seek a diplomatic approach
they're in gutter today. I just
47:22
don't think Hamas is in a mood
to bargain I think they've got
47:25
a gutter he said gutter he
didn't say cutter
47:30
which they're in gutter today.
Yeah, gutter is in a mood to
47:34
bargain. I think they've got
very valuable bargaining chips
47:38
that they're going to get a much
higher price for at least that's
47:41
what they think. I think the
hostages are in grave danger and
47:44
I think therefore any further
time that goes by before rescue
47:49
efforts begin puts their lives
in even greater danger than it
47:52
is already All
47:53
Adam Curry: right. So Bolton is
that just asking anybody to come
47:56
on who's connected to anything
Think Tank anything money
48:01
anything hateful, these are all
just horrible people who would
48:04
just talk him out of there but
but the best by far the best
48:08
person the best representative
of the military industrial
48:11
complex on mainstream M five M.
Television is definitely Lindsey
48:17
Graham. Lindsey Graham is
rocking it. And he is making
48:22
very sure we understand that
Iran is in our sights, boss
48:28
Unknown: in the last hour
announcing it's going to begin
48:30
to execute hostages and post
video evidence online for every
48:35
Israeli airstrike. your sights
on this moment, Senator?
48:41
Well, for every Israeli or
American hostage executed by
48:46
Hamas, we should take down and
Iranian oil refinery. All the
48:51
way you got to keep this for
from escalating is to hold Iran
48:55
accountable.
48:55
Adam Curry: The only way you
keep the war from escalating is
48:57
by bombing another country? Yes.
How
48:59
Unknown: much more death and
destruction do we have to take
49:03
Adam Curry: by creating more
Lindsey
49:05
Unknown: from the Iranian
regime? I am confident this was
49:08
planned and funded by the
Iranians. Hamas is a bunch of
49:11
animals who deserve to be
treated like animals. So if I
49:16
was Israel, I would go in on the
ground. There is no truce to be
49:19
had here. I would dismantle
Hamas. This is the best
49:23
opportunity Israel has to
destroy Hamas. Take it to the
49:27
Iranians. If you harm one
American in Syria by using your
49:31
Iranian militia against us in
Syria, to escalate an area
49:35
urging Hezbollah to attack
Israel in the north, if Hamas
49:39
kills one American Israeli
hostage, we're going to blow up
49:43
your oil refineries and put you
out of business. It is now time
49:46
to take the war to the
ayatollahs backyard.
49:49
Adam Curry: I mean, he's
channeling Bush now.
49:51
John C Dvorak: They know he made
handling McCain.
49:54
Adam Curry: Well, but yeah, of
49:55
John C Dvorak: course if and if
you remember, I wish we could
49:57
find a clip where we can. Of
course, of course We have
50:00
Barbara and sewing as bom bom
bom bom bom Irfan
50:05
Adam Curry: I'm sure we have it
50:07
John C Dvorak: we do have it is
this God knows what it's called.
50:10
Yeah no this is all
50:12
Unknown: bomb bomb Iran bom bom
bom bom bom I
50:19
Adam Curry: think it's our own
version. I like it.
50:28
Unknown: Bom bom bom bom bom
Moran. Yeah.
50:35
John C Dvorak: So the ghost of
John McCain.
50:38
Adam Curry: He's still with us.
He's
50:38
John C Dvorak: still with us.
And he's being channeled through
50:41
Lindsey Graham now if you
50:43
Adam Curry: think that was good
and who is his buddy and just as
50:46
an aside, this is exactly what
we talked about this has always
50:49
been on the radar. This is pure
evil that exists in the West,
50:54
not even one group of people is
just evil that is taken over.
50:58
And they these people don't
actually care about dead
51:01
Israelis or dead Palestinians.
They don't care about any of
51:04
that. They don't care about you.
They don't care about me. They
51:06
just care about the programming
they have in their brain to just
51:11
bomb stuff more money getting
into the markets, we need stuff
51:15
to happen. This is what we live
for.
51:17
Unknown: What I would do is I
would bomb a Ron's all
51:20
infrastructure, the money
financing terrorism. This is on
51:24
CNN now comes from Iran. It's
time for this terrorist state to
51:28
pay a price for financing and
supporting all this chaos. Yes,
51:33
if you're the Iranians, if we're
up to me, this war escalates.
51:37
I'm coming after you.
51:38
I think this is what I'm trying
to clarify here. Because I'm
51:41
wondering, listen,
51:43
Israel, US and Israel, is
51:44
the United States. Crystal clear
The United States. Let me just
51:50
let me just understand you.
51:53
John C Dvorak: What was the
point of that he
51:55
Adam Curry: has no he he's
telegraphing that we aren't
52:00
going to do it. It's US and
Israel, Israel, Israel, but
52:03
okay. And the telegraphing is
we're going to give them all the
52:08
stuff, Bibi is going to pull the
trigger, someone's going to pull
52:11
there's not going to be us. Now
we want Israel
52:17
John C Dvorak: to throw that in
because he forgot to do that
52:19
earlier. Yes. You
52:20
Unknown: forgot, drill us in
Israel, the United States.
52:24
Crystal clear in the United.
52:25
Adam Curry: Let me just let me
join operations. That was
52:28
exactly what Trump was talking
about when when Bibi pulled out
52:32
of the joint operation. Isn't
that interesting. But he's
52:35
clear. It's clear. Now I
52:36
Unknown: understand you. Just to
be clear, you're saying that you
52:39
would want the United States and
Israel to bomb Iran, even in the
52:43
absence of direct evidence of
their involvement in this
52:47
attack? Hey, yeah, so
52:53
Adam Curry: what evidence,
evidence Come on? Everybody
52:58
knows this. Yeah.
53:02
Unknown: If there's an
escalation, Abby, there's
53:05
people's throats being cut on
television, as Israel goes into
53:10
Gaza.
53:11
Adam Curry: She's already
telling us what the what the
53:13
nightly programming is going to
be. It's as if he knows Oh, if
53:18
we start seeing people's throats
getting slit on television, wow,
53:22
tick tock, maybe television
really, really, they haven't
53:25
shown much on television, or
shown anything. Please don't
53:29
email us. We've seen that we've
seen
53:31
John C Dvorak: Okay, now we got
to telegraph account. Don't
53:33
worry about we have a telegraph
but
53:36
Adam Curry: he is telegraphing.
He is telegraphing what we're
53:40
going to see.
53:40
Unknown: Yeah. So if there's an
escalation, Abby, if there's
53:45
pappy throats being cut until
How is
53:47
Adam Curry: people's throat
being cut on television
53:49
escalation of anything, but the
mainstream media is not an
53:53
escalation of the atrocities?
No, I mean,
53:58
John C Dvorak: no, I know
exactly what you mean. He's
54:00
just, he's gotta be he's got a
script. He's going by I don't
54:03
know where it came from who's
delivered it? But it's always
54:07
well, of course, again, I like
I'll say it again, it came.
54:11
We're behind. we're way behind
on that. On that on the west
54:16
Clarke seven. Yep. And things
are time is running out on this
54:21
Iran deal. So they're either
going to have to do they got to
54:23
take action now because this is
the last bit and if Trump comes
54:26
back in office, which is
possible, not gonna happen,
54:28
won't happen. Not gonna happen.
So they mean something will
54:31
happen. But we will be that
which
54:33
Adam Curry: is exactly why
Brooks and Dawn are over there
54:35
saying, oh, it'd be horrible if
Trump came back in Oh, no,
54:39
because then we won't be able to
bomb Iran. So I know Iranians,
54:44
by Iranian friends.
54:47
Unknown: If there's an
escalation Abby, if there's Pam
54:51
throats being cut on television,
as Israel goes in Gaza, and
54:56
they're threatening to kill the
hostages of Hezbollah, As
55:00
unleashed on Israel in the
north, it will be because Iran
55:04
is supporting that. If you don't
get the connection between Iran
55:09
and this terrorist activity by
Hamas and Hezbollah, you're
55:12
missing a lot. This is a
terrorist state that has
55:15
American blood on its hands. It
is now time to dismantle the
55:19
financing system of terrorism.
If this war escalates, yes, I
55:24
would do to joint military
operation joint I tell the
55:27
Iranians today, if the war
escalates, you will pay a price
55:30
you will be out of that all
business want to be crystal
55:33
clear? And if we don't,
55:34
Adam Curry: that's interesting.
You'll be out of the oil
55:36
business, the oil before
business, are they still in the
55:40
oil business?
55:41
John C Dvorak: Or did they trip
up, though tripped the clip by
55:44
played from Trump starts off
with him talking about the fact
55:49
that they went from nothing to
let allowing him to produce oil
55:53
to the tune of 80 to $100
billion in profits war in Iran.
55:59
All day, I would like you to
play the just the beginning of
56:03
this again, because this is the
56:06
Adam Curry: which one is that
which is the clip.
56:12
John C Dvorak: I think it's the
BB background. But no, it's the
56:16
unedited comments just right.
The very beginning. He's talking
56:19
about Iran
56:20
Unknown: for $6 billion was a
tremendous amount of money, but
56:23
nothing compared to the hundreds
of billions of dollars that
56:26
Biden allowed them to make and
oil and other things hundreds
56:30
and 1000s it became a rich
nation.
56:32
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yes, yes.
Yes. Yes. Good catch. Trump's
56:37
John C Dvorak: blaming it on
Biden. Yeah. More because they
56:40
loosened up some restrictions,
of course, sanctions.
56:44
Unknown: If the war escalation
will pay a price, you will be
56:47
either all of this.
56:48
Adam Curry: Do we? Did we ever
get those hostages back, by the
56:51
way, which was the ones that we
paid $6 billion for? Have they
56:57
been interviewed? Or have they
been on 60 minutes have been
57:00
this would be a big deal? I
mean, these are each person's
57:03
about a billion bucks. Should we
be talking to them
57:06
John C Dvorak: to remember there
was hostages involved in this
57:09
deal? Yeah, that's
57:10
Adam Curry: guess the $6 billion
was to get hostages back from
57:14
Iran.
57:16
John C Dvorak: Iran? Oh, that's
right. There was a few
57:18
prisoners. Yeah,
57:19
Adam Curry: prisoners. Alright.
Do we do we? Do we know even who
57:21
that what their names are? If
they'd been on television? I
57:24
mean,
57:25
John C Dvorak: their names or
their CIA names? Thank you.
57:27
Unknown: If the war escalates,
you will pay a price you will be
57:30
either or business. Want to be
crystal clear on that? And if we
57:33
don't do that, what do you
expect to happen in the future?
57:36
Do you expect Israel to forgive
and forget? Biden did mention
57:41
one word about Iran today and I
want to support the president.
57:44
I'm supporting the Saudi Israel
peace deal. Israel made peaceful
57:48
several Arab countries through
their Abraham Rickroll course. I
57:52
want to help the Palestinians we
can do business with as part of
57:55
a Saudi Israel peace deal, but
I'm tired of letting Iran I
58:00
think they did this to stop the
Saudi Arab peace negotiations.
58:04
The Iranians, I don't want to
reward them I want to punish
58:07
them.
58:08
Adam Curry: Now that he says
that I think that's bull crap,
58:11
too. But this month Oh, they did
this to stop the peace
58:14
negotiations really? Really
think that Iran just I mean, is
58:19
it true Iran just wants death
and destruction?
58:24
John C Dvorak: Bring back a
tweet I mentioned in the
58:25
newsletter somebody posted which
was about it seems a little
58:31
weird. That on the 50th
anniversary of the famous Yamba
58:37
Kapoor award, the 50th
anniversary debt the debt Israel
58:42
let down their guard.
58:44
Adam Curry: Yes, see? Seems like
we you know, did you remember
58:47
odd? Did you read Seymour Hersh
his
58:50
John C Dvorak: piece? No, no, I
didn't know what he did. What'd
58:53
he say this time so
58:54
Adam Curry: it was also the
Sukkot celebration. But yeah, so
58:58
I'm gonna reading verbatim from
his just reading a paragraph or
59:01
two. The so called celebration
near Palestinian village, known
59:04
in Hebrew is how it should need
would need extra ordinary
59:08
protection given the tension
over the latest violence and the
59:11
local Israeli military
authorities with the approval of
59:13
Netanyahu ordered two of the
three army battalions each with
59:17
about 800 soldiers that
protected the border with Gaza
59:20
to shift their focus to the so
called festival that left only
59:24
800 soldiers the insider told me
to be responsible for guarding
59:28
the 51 kilometer border between
the Gaza Strip and southern
59:31
Israel. That meant the Israeli
citizens in the South were left
59:35
without an Israeli military
military presence for 10 to 12
59:39
hours. They were left to fend
for themselves. And that is why
59:42
Bibi is finished. It may take a
few months but he's over. Now.
59:45
I'm jumping ahead because I want
to get to that because I have
59:47
some other things that play into
that. But first we need to
59:51
listen to Lindsey Graham. He's
just I mean, you could do a
59:56
super In fact, I'll probably get
a super cut. So now he got I was
1:00:00
done with crystal meth and he
lays out this plan.
1:00:02
Unknown: Listen to me now and
listen to me good. We should,
1:00:06
without lubricant, go into Gaza
from behind. I know it sounds
1:00:10
brutal, but we need to penetrate
them blow our loads. And then
1:00:14
subsequently Plowshares ai i
love it. Actually, if we stay
1:00:21
inside for an extended period of
time because we need to make
1:00:24
sure that the deed is done. I
have been an expert on this
1:00:29
subject for many years. And I
think now is the time to act.
1:00:33
Adam Curry: That's AI obviously,
but I thought it was fun fun to
1:00:36
play.
1:00:36
John C Dvorak: It is was the AI
is getting funnier. Yeah. The
1:00:39
problem, of course, is that if
you don't listen to our show,
1:00:42
and you don't know or super
skeptical about everything, you
1:00:47
will be susceptible to some AI
shenanigans. But
1:00:51
Adam Curry: the whole point of
good AI is that you catch on and
1:00:55
it's funny. I mean, otherwise it
just no good.
1:00:57
John C Dvorak: Most people can't
do that and lizard kind of
1:01:00
training. You have trained ears.
I don't believe that 90% of the
1:01:05
people that would hear that 90
wouldn't buy into it.
1:01:10
Adam Curry: No, come on. It's
like yeah, we gotta
1:01:12
John C Dvorak: say that, but
1:01:16
Adam Curry: that's fine. That's
fine. Now before I get to the
1:01:19
Netanyahu bid, just one more
just as its global, the whole
1:01:22
Iran focus, as we suspected, yea
perhaps predicted is everywhere
1:01:28
as let's go to the European arm
of the CIA propaganda machine
1:01:33
toyed chavalla with some think
tank aihole
1:01:36
Unknown: for its incursion,
Hamas has used 1000s of drones
1:01:39
and rockets and carried out
cyber attacks. The conflict has
1:01:42
raised questions as to how the
group is able to finance these
1:01:46
complex attacks.
1:01:48
Adam Curry: They've done cyber
attacks. This is news to me.
1:01:52
Every cyber attack is always
Russia. Now Hamas has done North
1:01:57
Korea. Now Hamas has done cyber
attacks, very complex seems
1:02:01
unlikely. Well, it's the CIA
come on these or whatever
1:02:06
Unknown: questions as to how the
group is able to finance these
1:02:09
complex attacks. Israeli
retaliation also has enormous
1:02:13
costs for the economy of the
Gaza Strip, which is under Hamas
1:02:16
rule. Joining me for this
conversation is Matthew Levitt.
1:02:20
He's the director of the program
on counterterrorism and
1:02:22
intelligence at the Washington
Institute for Near East Policy.
1:02:27
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, I
mean, you know exactly what this
1:02:30
is. We need a gig like that. I
want to be at the National
1:02:33
Institute for terror Near East
Institute,
1:02:37
John C Dvorak: something up like
that, and probably do as well as
1:02:39
we're doing for the show, or
better
1:02:40
Unknown: East policy, has been
using drones, cyber attacks and
1:02:45
rockets against Israel. Where is
it getting the funding for these
1:02:50
weapons from
1:02:51
Adam Curry: a where's it
getting? Hello, hello, Think
1:02:53
Tank guy, Hamas and Hezbollah
things in the background? Why
1:02:57
what I'm just out of curiosity,
do you have any idea where
1:03:03
they're getting the funding for
these cyber attacks? Could you
1:03:07
Could I'm at a loss, what could
it be
1:03:10
Unknown: moss is funding streams
have changed over the years in
1:03:13
particular, in 2007, when Hamas
took over the Gaza Strip by
1:03:18
force of arms, pointing its guns
not at Israel In that instance,
1:03:22
Israel had already withdrawn but
against Palestinians, once it
1:03:25
controlled territory, it was
able to tax some might say
1:03:28
extort the local population. And
that is its primary source of
1:03:34
income right now. The second
most important source of income
1:03:39
and this is something that has
been consistent over decades
1:03:42
since the founding of Hamas in
the late 1980s. US government
1:03:45
estimates that Iran provides
some us somewhere between 70 and
1:03:49
$100 million a year, probably
additional funds and moments of
1:03:54
crisis like this. And that has
been constant. That is money
1:03:58
that is in kind that is weapons
there is on top of that
1:04:01
training, intelligence support,
etc.
1:04:04
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's clear
who we need to go after because
1:04:06
Iran is the problem. It's not a
bunch of nut jobs known as
1:04:10
Hamas, who are just blood
thirsty. We don't even have to
1:04:13
talk about the genesis of that.
We've done that. But it's all
1:04:17
her right. It's all about Iran.
It's all about Iran. Now. We get
1:04:20
to Bibi Netanyahu and another
player that we haven't really we
1:04:23
haven't played paid any
attention to this woman. So my
1:04:28
initial and I think yours will
be one of the initial who
1:04:31
benefits from this. Well, you
know, Biden benefits as a war
1:04:34
president Hunter Biden benefits
the NGOs who are flowing asylum
1:04:41
seekers into every Western
country in the world. They
1:04:45
benefit don't look at our
border. Look at that one. Look
1:04:48
at that. 51 kilometer. Now, look
at that board. That board over
1:04:50
there that board, don't look at
Ukraine. Don't look at any of
1:04:53
this stuff. So a whole bunch of
people the end machinery
1:04:58
benefits and the military
industrial comp everyone
1:05:00
benefits benefits benefits Wall
Street's gonna benefit everybody
1:05:04
the oil guys are gonna benefit
are benefiting my friend paid
1:05:07
for dinner so I know he's
benefiting but but Netanyahu had
1:05:13
this huge problem and I think we
need to revisit this it's
1:05:16
controversial because we have
understood this from many people
1:05:20
boots on the ground no agenda
producers that the Supreme Court
1:05:25
I'm just I'm just gonna use the
simple version Supreme Court of
1:05:28
Israel, Israel Israel they have
precedence over the parliament
1:05:34
but over the government they can
say, you know, we don't like
1:05:38
this law or this run of the
blue, they can do it whenever
1:05:41
they
1:05:41
John C Dvorak: will slightly
different than our Supreme Court
1:05:43
which has to have it presented
to them through the court
1:05:45
system.
1:05:46
Adam Curry: Yes. And then here,
it's just um, yeah, we don't
1:05:48
like what you did.
1:05:49
John C Dvorak: Key Exactly.
Yeah, it's pretty. And it's
1:05:52
really
1:05:52
Adam Curry: also filled with an
app going on a limb because I'm
1:05:56
not really schooled in it. But
in Israel, you have Ashkenazi
1:05:59
Jews and Sarfati I think is
Sephardi Jews, which would be
1:06:02
like my 40 Sephardic, like my
buddy Benco Han, who wouldn't go
1:06:07
dark all have dark skin, then
and in the Supreme Court is
1:06:10
pretty much all the white Jews,
the Ashkenazi Jews and their
1:06:14
leaders and their woke stirs.
And they're just like, the
1:06:17
liberal, the nut jobs here in
the United States.
1:06:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And,
1:06:22
Adam Curry: you know, they're
like, Yeah, you know, everything
1:06:24
LGBTQ, you know, everything's
all good. It's all beautiful.
1:06:27
You know, we could you know, you
know, don't just the whole
1:06:29
thing, everything is It's
identical. And Bibi Netanyahu,
1:06:33
who I've always considered to be
very sketchy guy, I said, sketch
1:06:38
them very sketch says, I'm gonna
retract that. I'm both. I've
1:06:42
always been skeptical about the
guy. He's like, Yeah, go it. But
1:06:45
we've been programmed to think
he's a criminal. He's a
1:06:48
gangster, he's no good. He's a
war monger. He was voted in by
1:06:52
Democratic vote, if you trust
elections, to change with one
1:06:56
mandate to change the judicial
system, so that the people of
1:07:01
Israel would feel like they
actually have a say, and not
1:07:04
just this star pushed around by
the judiciary. Yes, this
1:07:08
Starfleet Command. And so what
happened was, and this is Sir
1:07:12
Brian of London has said these
riots that were ongoing that had
1:07:17
been going on since his
election, and all of these, all
1:07:21
of the accusations and their,
they hate gays, and they're
1:07:26
corrupt, and they're horrible
people, he says is pretty much
1:07:30
identical to Trump and Black
Lives Matter. And that these
1:07:34
protests are, you know, and so
all professional signs and
1:07:37
people are getting riled up and
the military is getting
1:07:40
involved. But it was it's been
led by a very interesting woman
1:07:45
named Sheikh my Bressler thinks
she's 4142. Good looking. She
1:07:52
actually started the Black Flag
protest earlier, which is much
1:07:56
more black lives matter related,
but she led this protest. She's
1:07:59
a physical that a particle
physicist from CERN. But somehow
1:08:04
she got drafted into the to
being the leader of this
1:08:08
protest. And I could not find
it. But she apparently somewhere
1:08:14
along the line said, you know,
this Netanyahu, you better give
1:08:17
it up. Something bad's gonna
happen. end of September, I've
1:08:20
been looking for that quote.
Because that would kind of that
1:08:22
would close the loop. But she
was interviewed by The Times of
1:08:27
Israel. And I just pulled a
couple of clips because I have a
1:08:31
feeling that this protest cannot
be isolated from what happened
1:08:38
by the lapse in security, as
certainly maybe the lack of
1:08:42
response from the military. And
the fact that Seymour Hersh, who
1:08:46
we I hold him pretty in high
regard. Seymour Hersh says this
1:08:50
guy's finished, he's done. This
might have been a plan to get
1:08:56
rid of Netanyahu that perhaps
they misjudged, and it went too
1:09:00
far. Here's a little bit of this
interview with Schick, my
1:09:04
Bressler so she come
1:09:06
Unknown: I asked you What
matters now. Maybe it will sound
1:09:10
a bit dramatic. But what matters
now is really to
1:09:14
Adam Curry: say I'm sorry, I
should say this interview is
1:09:16
from March of this year. Just
coincidentally, the same time
1:09:20
Biden did that executive order
with the security change, but
1:09:23
I'm not necessarily connecting
those two, it'd be actually
1:09:27
Unknown: sound a bit dramatic.
But what matters now is really
1:09:31
to save the Israeli democracy to
save the state and nation of
1:09:34
Israel. I as part of my duties
and job in Weitzman and being
1:09:39
part of a huge international
collaboration. I do talk to many
1:09:43
people from abroad. And what is
clear to me is that people do
1:09:48
not aware of the dramatic things
that are happening these days in
1:09:53
Israel. And the fact that if we
will discuss it in a month from
1:09:56
now we could be already beyond
the point of no return for What
1:10:00
people need to take away out of
this conversation and not wait
1:10:04
to the end of it is to
understand that we are now these
1:10:06
days facing a yield curve in the
sense that if we are not able to
1:10:13
stop what is going on at the
moment, in a couple of weeks,
1:10:17
days, maybe Israeli will no
longer be a democracy. And then
1:10:22
once the point of no return has
passed, it will take decades to
1:10:27
get back from this point. And
maybe it will not even be
1:10:30
possible. And I know it sounds
dramatic, but it is dramatic.
1:10:34
But this is the circumstances,
this is what matters now. I
1:10:39
think that people are not really
digesting, fully digesting what
1:10:42
is going on. And it is dramatic.
And it's happening now.
1:10:46
Adam Curry: The only thing she
didn't say was existential
1:10:48
crisis. That's the only thing
that was missing from that. And
1:10:51
by the way, it's
1:10:51
John C Dvorak: very similar to
the Trump is a threat to
1:10:55
democracy somehow.
1:10:56
Adam Curry: Yes. And I realized
that my sources are limited. But
1:10:59
I'm just giving you this. My
view may be different. On
1:11:03
Thursday, it'll
1:11:03
John C Dvorak: develop Don't
1:11:05
Adam Curry: worry, yeah. But
people like
1:11:10
John C Dvorak: that kind of same
guy.
1:11:11
Adam Curry: So. So then, in this
next bit from the interview, she
1:11:16
says something that catches my
ear, and my ears perk up,
1:11:19
because I've heard this
somewhere else, listen to this.
1:11:22
Unknown: How could you just to
play devil's advocate? How could
1:11:25
you possibly when the government
coalition will pass the overhaul
1:11:30
builds? Because it can, it's in
power, it will do that? So what
1:11:35
is a win for you? So first of
all, some extent we are already
1:11:39
a winning maybe we are winning a
battle, but not the entire
1:11:43
world. But you have to
understand it's a try. If you
1:11:45
look at the the changes that
opened in Hungary in the last
1:11:50
decade, and you when you make
the new when you compare it to
1:11:54
what is being done here, they
try to do what Obama did in a
1:11:57
decade in Hungary to do here in
two months. As I said, it's not
1:12:01
just one law that they are
trying to pass, but it's more
1:12:05
than 120 loads that are being
really ambushed on on us. And
1:12:12
this will probably not happen
the way that they want they
1:12:15
start to tell going to you know,
to do this legislation and they
1:12:19
will be done with it in no time.
No no defense. And then now they
1:12:25
need to change that. So they're
calling back a lot of they're
1:12:30
seeing and only focusing on this
committee for the election of
1:12:34
judges, which is the core thing
if you go back again to hunger
1:12:37
you will see is that this is how
all been started by taking
1:12:41
control over the judicial the
courts and the judges so they
1:12:46
are focusing on that. So when
1:12:48
Adam Curry: I heard this I'm
like what Orban committed a coup
1:12:53
in Hungary and overthrew the
judiciary and the country's calm
1:13:00
and orderly and people seem to
be happy there. Did I miss
1:13:06
something that he's a dictator
1:13:10
John C Dvorak: may have been
pushing the Orban being a
1:13:13
dictator the left has for at
least the entire
1:13:18
Adam Curry: or ban the guy who
would not mandate vaccines who
1:13:21
would not eat
1:13:23
John C Dvorak: or Bond started
the problem by blocking the
1:13:27
didn't do initial wave of
refugees from the Middle East.
1:13:30
Yeah, back 10 years ago yes. Or
Bond threw up defenses and said
1:13:35
no.
1:13:36
Adam Curry: And the people of
Hungary have seem to be happy
1:13:39
with him. I have seen protests.
1:13:42
John C Dvorak: I don't want to
say you know, bring this guy
1:13:45
into the picture but it's as you
recall, Tucker went there and
1:13:50
hung out with him and Jed tried
to look around for some sort of
1:13:53
problem and could find nothing
Orban did take on the judiciary
1:13:58
which did have an issue that
with the I don't know this is
1:14:02
like nuts. Okay,
1:14:04
Adam Curry: so when this
triggered me I went whoa, hold
1:14:06
on a second hold on
1:14:07
John C Dvorak: or bonds anti
globalist Yeah, obviously this
1:14:10
woman is globalist and this is
the word this what we're dealing
1:14:14
with now somehow.
1:14:15
Adam Curry: So now three weeks
ago, 60 minutes does an
1:14:19
interview with three Israeli IDF
soldiers they're in uniform. One
1:14:26
is a helicopter pilot one is and
that's the she was always sexy.
1:14:32
female combat chopper pilot
lesbian. Does it get any better
1:14:36
than that? The other one is
special forces. And I forget
1:14:40
what the third was. And they're
just talking about how horrible
1:14:44
Netanyahu is. It's the same
topic three weeks ago. Listen to
1:14:48
this
1:14:48
Unknown: head of national
security has had multiple
1:14:51
convictions, including
supporting terrorism against
1:14:55
Arabs. The finance minister is a
self described fascist.
1:15:00
homophobe. As for Netanyahu, he
is in the midst of three
1:15:04
separate trials on charges of
corruption. The protesters say
1:15:09
that laws his government has
introduced over 200 of them
1:15:14
would not only weaken the
courts, but control the press
1:15:17
and diminish individual rights.
And that this is how democracies
1:15:21
like Hungary became autocratic.
1:15:24
What's happened in Hungary and
Poland will not happen here.
1:15:28
There is a trend and it's going
against you. Around the World.
1:15:33
We'll be the first to stop it.
You're all determined.
1:15:37
We are not joking. We are really
trying to stop it and we will
1:15:42
succeed.
1:15:43
One of the big worries is that
without a strong Supreme Court,
1:15:48
the ultra orthodox block and the
government could turn Israel
1:15:52
into a theocracy where biblical
laws prevail.
1:15:57
Our Supreme Court is our last
line of defense. And this is our
1:16:00
last safeguard. We need them
empowered. We need them
1:16:04
independent, that what we fight
for
1:16:07
what is at stake for women,
Shira,
1:16:09
that will be sitting in the back
of the bus. Literally,
1:16:12
literally. Are you married? I'm
married to a woman, a doctor. We
1:16:19
have a daughter, she's one year
and eight months.
1:16:22
Her fear of an assault on
women's and gay rights is well
1:16:26
founded. A government member
said the gay community is more
1:16:31
dangerous than ISIS and
Hezbollah.
1:16:33
Adam Curry: Oh crap. For some
reason. I must have cut out the
1:16:36
bit worse. They talk about
Poland Hungary. No, I heard it.
1:16:41
Oh, it was in there. I
completely missed it. Hello.
1:16:44
Sorry. I just thought it came.
You know,
1:16:45
John C Dvorak: they mentioned
both countries as as autocratic
1:16:48
countries. Yes. Polar. I'm
giving you a clip of the day for
1:16:51
digging that baby out of the
woods.
1:16:57
Unknown: ever done? Oh, no,
1:16:58
Adam Curry: no, no. This is by
this is truly mine. It's not
1:17:02
coincidence. I know who gave it
to me. I know who does this.
1:17:06
It's It's Supernatural. So I get
this clip. And I'm like, Whoa,
1:17:12
this is the same talking point.
Poland Poland. same
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: talking points. I
exactly. And it's interesting,
1:17:18
because it kind of parallels the
queers for Palestine movement.
1:17:22
Yep. Which I, which I
highlighted in the newsletter,
1:17:25
and people should go read the
newsletter and click on the
1:17:28
link, or just go to Google or
duck duck go, which is what I
1:17:33
use at queers for Palestine and
start reading what's going on in
1:17:37
Israel with the game movement
there. And the symbiosis with
1:17:42
Palace Steen and the fact that
they're all you know, they, it's
1:17:46
just very strange. And I think
it's part of that I think with a
1:17:50
clip you just played is part of
queers for Palestine.
1:17:54
Adam Curry: So the problem is
that they said, We're not going
1:17:57
to let it happen, we will do
what it takes. And then here go,
1:18:03
but going back to schema, the
leader of this movement,
1:18:06
Unknown: so I think that if, as
I said, if this laws will pass,
1:18:11
by definition, the Israeli court
system will be underneath the
1:18:18
political system, the
government, by definition, it's
1:18:21
not a Democratic democracy
anymore. And then we'll have to
1:18:26
you know, we will wake up one
day for something completely
1:18:29
different than what we were used
to, I think that then then what
1:18:33
we will see here is that the
country conditions fall, you
1:18:36
know, goes down quickly, you you
we heard yesterday, large groups
1:18:42
from the reserve army unit
saying that if this happens,
1:18:46
they will not they will not they
will not serve a dictatorship,
1:18:50
they will only that we are here
we all took our oath to protect
1:18:54
the democratic a Jewish
democratic country and not a
1:18:57
dictator. I think that we see it
already we will be affected
1:19:02
economically, very dramatically
will be affected basically, in
1:19:05
every aspect, it may not be
happening in one day, but But
1:19:10
again, if you look at countries
that went down the throats or
1:19:13
condition, and then it will be a
huge and a long battle, which
1:19:17
will which you know, we will all
be losing, but but it will be it
1:19:24
will be awful, to be awful.
1:19:26
Adam Curry: So she says right
there, that reservists army will
1:19:30
not defend a dictator. They will
not defend, I presume Israel.
1:19:37
And I'm just putting a couple
things together here. It was
1:19:41
like, Do you think it's possible
that that they thought, well,
1:19:45
you know, we'll let some we'll
let some terrorists come in and
1:19:48
do a little
1:19:48
John C Dvorak: one. They tore
down that fence with bulldozers
1:19:52
and nobody did anything or even
took a shot at them. That was
1:19:56
extremely suspicious if you
asked me They bring bulldozers
1:20:01
up to the fence, and just night
the fence over when nobody does
1:20:05
it. And when you have
1:20:06
Adam Curry: when you have the
crowd, just like Black Lives
1:20:09
Matter when you have the crowd
program, this is an existential
1:20:12
crisis. You don't know what
people are capable of doing or
1:20:17
not doing. So if everyone's been
this, I mean, you don't see it
1:20:21
much on M five M here. But in
this research, I've been looking
1:20:25
at some of the video these
protests, you know, getting
1:20:28
pretty rowdy.
1:20:29
John C Dvorak: So there are and
monstrous or monstrous protests.
1:20:33
Adam Curry: And so if if there's
like, Okay, this is existential
1:20:37
to the democracy and the
survival of us here in Israel,
1:20:42
Israel L, then it's, it's not
unthinkable that this could have
1:20:48
been, at, at minimum, just let
go. And then they underestimated
1:20:56
how ready or how bad it would be
Hamas was or how bad it would
1:21:01
be. I mean,
1:21:02
John C Dvorak: they could have
estimated how they
1:21:05
underestimated how bad would be,
which but if we take this line
1:21:09
of thinking, which nobody wants
to do, no, because it's very
1:21:12
unpopular and very busy gonna
get more letters to Adam, that
1:21:15
he has to read on the next show.
Horrible letters. But if you
1:21:20
take that line of thinking and
take it to its logical extreme,
1:21:24
Iran is not involved.
1:21:26
Adam Curry: Very possible, very
possible, and Hezbollah
1:21:29
John C Dvorak: won't come down.
I mean, we already played the
1:21:32
clips from the last show on that
on the Hezbollah's as presented
1:21:35
by LG zero, which is a
representative cutter. So you're
1:21:39
gonna get something that's, you
know, cutter, and these other
1:21:42
Arab niches don't want to make
this into a big deal because
1:21:45
they're gonna get killed. And so
the Israelis have shot into
1:21:52
Lebanon from that area where
Hezbollah would come in, and
1:21:56
there's no evidence that they're
going to come in and they
1:21:58
probably won't.
1:22:00
Adam Curry: They don't have to,
for us to go bomb them.
1:22:03
John C Dvorak: Don't have to not
if you got Lindsey Graham,
1:22:06
Adam Curry: that's you got him
on your side. So I my my eyes
1:22:10
are on schema Bresler. She's,
it's baffling, baffling, that
1:22:15
they pull this physical partisan
particle physicist from CERN
1:22:21
into this and she becomes this
hero. I mean, I'm almost
1:22:24
thinking, Is she going to be the
next prime minister? Do we have
1:22:28
a new goldmine? Err on our
hands?
1:22:31
John C Dvorak: Who is this
woman? I'm looking at her wiki
1:22:33
page. I've looked at looked her
up. Who is she? Who is behind
1:22:37
her? You don't she didn't do
this on her own. I don't care
1:22:41
what anybody would like to
think.
1:22:43
Adam Curry: Well, she's at the
Weitzman Institute of Science.
1:22:48
And I've been searching to find
out I mean, she was married to
1:22:53
the guide died. Eight ton vert
Heimer, which I haven't, it's
1:22:58
very hard to find information on
her. She's in that regard. It
1:23:03
was a little like, huh, let me
see. You billionaire
1:23:06
businessman. Okay. He was one of
Israel's wealthiest men. Okay,
1:23:11
here we go. He died in 2022. Did
he? Seven years old. One of
1:23:20
Israel's wealthiest men after us
tycoon Warren Buffett bought a
1:23:24
controlling share in his
company. Oh, now this makes for
1:23:28
a little more interesting.
1:23:32
John C Dvorak: Read on
1:23:33
Adam Curry: as a philanthropist
Wertheimer was an ardent
1:23:35
supporter of Israeli Palestinian
businesses and peace
1:23:38
initiatives. He founded Erez
college in the northern town of
1:23:42
Shlomi and the experimental
school of toughen industrial
1:23:46
park that's all I have on this
particular article. So she is a
1:23:53
probably loaded and she comes
from the fear in urine you're on
1:24:00
that level. Then you know you've
got you're connected. She just
1:24:05
connected she's connected. Me
see this car metalworking sold
1:24:12
it to Buffett for 6 billion.
Hmm, I don't know. What is this?
1:24:19
Oh, he was an IDF. I know that.
I mean, this is where I got
1:24:22
stuck. This is this is what you
look at Chick Ma. M she's got
1:24:26
leader written all over her. Neo
lib tard leader but she's got
1:24:30
leader
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: reminding me
because of the nature of the
1:24:35
jobs woman.
1:24:37
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:24:39
John C Dvorak: You know, he's
got a wife and Lauren. Lauren.
1:24:42
Adam Curry: Lauren. What's
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: your jobs?
1:24:45
Adam Curry: Lawrence? Their
middle name. That's important.
1:24:47
We
1:24:48
John C Dvorak: forgot anyway,
she ends up inheriting Disney.
1:24:52
She basically runs she owns the
Disney Corporation for all
1:24:56
practical purposes, the major
shareholder, and all this other
1:24:59
end Just nothing but money and
and stock. And she's I don't
1:25:05
know what her background is but
she was she Powell Jobs Lauren
1:25:08
Powell Yeah. Lauren Lauren
Powell Jobs. She was she's super
1:25:14
ultra super, I would say naive
liberal. And she puts all her
1:25:18
money toward liberal causes and
pushes things in that direction,
1:25:21
which is nothing jobs would have
done this is interesting.
1:25:25
Adam Curry: March 23 2020, stays
around the same time this
1:25:28
interview the same month of the
change of the technology
1:25:31
Bressler was detained by police
during one of the many Dave
1:25:34
disruption protests held across
Israel, Israel. She was later
1:25:37
released former minute Prime
Minister and protest leader Ehud
1:25:40
Barak, part of the West exec
lobbying firm that brought in
1:25:46
the new software tweeted the
Breathless arrest was
1:25:49
dictatorship and action. There's
too many connections here. I
1:25:54
mean, I'm just I need some red
yarn, people. I need to connect
1:25:59
this on my wall.
1:26:01
John C Dvorak: So we've got
plenty of Arabs that listen to
1:26:05
the show. There are plenty of
spooks that listen to the show.
1:26:10
I'm sure plenty of military guys
to listen to the show. Can
1:26:13
someone share? Share besides
Seymour Hersh, who probably is
1:26:20
digging into his into this as we
speak? Yeah, I think there's
1:26:25
something going on. As
1:26:30
Adam Curry: as usual. As usual,
yes. Then, of course, here in
1:26:35
the United States, everyone
loses their crap. And it's very
1:26:40
similar. What happened here,
particularly amongst the
1:26:43
universities was interesting.
There is such a I mean, everyone
1:26:49
jumping on the end, it's all
around the world actually.
1:26:52
Jumping on the pro Palestine
where is Roger Waters I keep
1:26:55
waiting for him to leave. He's
the guy that's always been anti
1:26:59
Israel Pro. You know, boycott
divest and been another be Meo.
1:27:06
Why Why don't the interview him?
It's the guy I want to hear from
1:27:09
right now. I want to hear what
he thinks.
1:27:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it'd
be nice. I have two clips I want
1:27:15
to play. This is about US
citizens stuck in Gaza. And the
1:27:19
reason I want to play these two
clips because there's a kicker
1:27:21
at the end a clip to
1:27:23
Unknown: the State Department
says the number of US citizens
1:27:25
killed in the Hamas attack on
Israel has risen to at least 29
1:27:30
with 15 people listed as
missing. This is Israel prepares
1:27:33
for unexpected ground incursion
into Gaza, as dozens of
1:27:36
Americans there are trying to
get out. They had hoped to
1:27:40
evacuate today, but they along
with more than 2 million Gazans
1:27:43
without us passports remain
trapped. Israel has imposed a
1:27:47
complete siege on Gaza, meaning
no people, supplies or food are
1:27:51
allowed to come in or out. And
here's Nina krupinski, has more.
1:27:55
Massachusetts resident of Budo
Cole and his family waited at
1:27:59
the Rafah border crossing for
hours Saturday hoping Egyptian
1:28:02
authorities would open the gate
to let them out. He and other US
1:28:06
citizens trapped in Gaza were
told by the US State Department
1:28:09
that the gate may open between
noon and 5pm local time that
1:28:13
window has passed and the
crossing remains closed. It's
1:28:16
just extremely frustrating. Oh
call his wife and their one year
1:28:19
old baby will spend another
night in Gaza
1:28:23
Adam Curry: was interesting
little
1:28:24
John C Dvorak: sound. This is
not about Americans in Israel.
1:28:28
This is about him. This whole
piece was about his buck from
1:28:31
NPR by the way. This whole piece
is about Americans in Gaza. Yes.
1:28:37
It was. I guess there's a ton of
them there. And there's a kicker
1:28:41
at the end of this one which had
me somewhat baffled
1:28:44
Unknown: US officials had been
negotiating with Israel and
1:28:46
Egypt to open the border for
Americans.
1:28:51
John C Dvorak: For Americans
1:28:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, screw the
screw the power to everybody
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: else, which which
is a sign of our as a nation of
1:29:00
our empire. And our empathy. The
well they empathy screw that we
1:29:05
have empire and it's like you
got that border down there. Open
1:29:10
it up for Americans Yeah. You
can be sure that we're putting
1:29:16
pressure on the Egyptian
Government to open that Southern
1:29:19
crossing that southern accent
from Gaza for Americans let them
1:29:28
get let our Americans get out
and then you get bombed you
1:29:30
humbled Hold on.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: That will in fact
well as we heard from Lindsey
1:29:33
Graham is going to be slitting
throats. Americans throats will
1:29:36
be slit an escalation of the
violence and escalation anyway
1:29:42
so back back at home man you
probably people in America
1:29:45
probably heard about the
university signing statements
1:29:49
and me oh we hate Israel. We're
all pro pro Palestinian cuz it's
1:29:56
crazy. Here's something from ABC
Mrs. from Boston
1:29:59
Unknown: digital billboard
parked right outside Harvard
1:30:01
University is attracting a lot
of attention. The names and
1:30:04
faces of Harvard students, which
we have blurred are displayed
1:30:09
under the title Harvard's
leading anti Semites. The
1:30:12
students are allegedly those who
signed on to a statement by the
1:30:15
student group Palestine
Solidarity Committee, which read
1:30:18
in part, we hold the Israeli
regime entirely responsible for
1:30:22
all unfolding violence, we're
merely amplifying their message.
1:30:25
The man claiming responsibility
for the truck says the Harvard
1:30:28
community should know who the
students are, if
1:30:31
they're ashamed of what they did
and want to apologize, we'll
1:30:33
remove them. If they're proud of
what they did. They should thank
1:30:36
us don't
1:30:36
put these people on this screen
because it puts them in danger.
1:30:39
But students like Jeremy
Ornstein believe the trucks
1:30:42
message is only Adding to the
tension on campus, Harvard Hillo
1:30:45
has already condemned this, the
Jews of Harvard have already
1:30:48
condemned this and make clear it
doesn't bring anything to the
1:30:50
discussion. And it actually
brings greater harm and danger
1:30:53
to a lot of human beings who
1:30:54
are here at Harvard University
increasing patrols in light of
1:30:58
the divide in an email to
students, the school says we do
1:31:01
not condone or ignore
intimidation, we do not condone
1:31:04
or ignore threats or acts of
harassment or violence.
1:31:07
I know some of the fellow
students on this camp on this
1:31:09
campus. And it just hurts my
heart. Just see my fellow
1:31:12
friends going through this when
they're just standing up for
1:31:14
what they believe that
1:31:15
this issue is very sensitive.
And this is a very insensitive
1:31:19
way to portray these Harvard
students.
1:31:21
Adam Curry: I don't believe I
don't believe this for a second
1:31:23
that these people these anybody
certainly in the United States,
1:31:27
certainly not at University has
any context any knowledge, any
1:31:31
historical background in in what
is happening.
1:31:34
John C Dvorak: Yes, particularly
that particular group was
1:31:36
exposed by a couple of
documentaries that there's two
1:31:40
groups and they're in they're
paid directly from that 100
1:31:43
million dollar slush fund from
Iran. And they are I think
1:31:48
there's 300 of them in the
country at different
1:31:51
universities including Cal
Berkeley, and it they I don't
1:31:57
know whether they know anything
or not but they are paid to do
1:32:00
this and that's what they're
doing
1:32:01
Adam Curry: and what happens is
just like Black Lives Matter
1:32:04
without thought without
investigation without any
1:32:07
critical analysis. Oh, I better
do it. I better do what everyone
1:32:12
else is doing. You know, I bet
this is the problem. Oh Rob, you
1:32:18
know it looks like everyone is
off I bet I don't want to be the
1:32:21
guy on the on the wrong side of
this argument then everyone's Oh
1:32:25
yeah. No classes let's go No,
but that's that's really what's
1:32:33
happened these are sadly our our
higher education institutions
1:32:38
have become a
1:32:39
John C Dvorak: well it's a
higher educate the higher
1:32:41
educated you get the more
boosters you get to so I don't
1:32:43
know if that tells you anything.
Yeah, I do have one more
1:32:46
Palestine clip. I want to play
more boosters, more boosters
1:32:51
more as you get a PhD, you get
all of them. Okay. Speaking of
1:32:56
PhDs, but first let's play
Palestine update. Okay.
1:33:01
Unknown: The day old truce
between Israel and Hamas
1:33:03
militants appears to be holding
after 11 days of fighting. Egypt
1:33:07
has provided a delegation to
Israel in an effort to shore up
1:33:11
the truce. Martin Indyk is a
former US Special Envoy for
1:33:15
Israeli Palestinian
negotiations. Now with the
1:33:18
Council on Foreign Relations.
He's not sure either
1:33:23
Adam Curry: party really wants
Oh, did you edit that in?
1:33:29
Unknown: Now with the Council on
Foreign Relations, he's not sure
1:33:34
either party really wants a
peace deal.
1:33:37
on the Palestinian side. It's
very hard to see how we could
1:33:40
work towards a final status
agreement and on the Israeli
1:33:44
side. There looks like they're
going into a fifth election.
1:33:48
They have a caretaker
government. Netanyahu was trying
1:33:51
to
1:33:52
John C Dvorak: stop the clip.
Oh, I'm sorry. This is a two
1:33:55
year old. I accidentally got put
into my pile.
1:34:00
Adam Curry: An old classic no
agenda gag. You got me. You got
1:34:04
me. You got me. You got me.
1:34:07
John C Dvorak: All right. Yes,
this is from May 2020. Yeah, I'm
1:34:12
sorry. I apologize.
1:34:14
Adam Curry: In an odd way. I
just want to play two more clips
1:34:16
and then we need to talk about
higher education and PhDs.
1:34:20
There's this woman Esther
Perell. And she is she has an
1:34:26
actual title here homeless
seconds. She is here we go. Also
1:34:34
younger than she sounds that
she's Belgian American
1:34:37
psychotherapist known for her
work on human relationships. And
1:34:44
she sounds kind of like a woowoo
person you have to Oprah. Oprah
1:34:48
loves her. But she attended the
Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
1:34:54
And she's another cutie she
could also have she could be in
1:34:58
that in that girl.
1:35:00
John C Dvorak: Amen. You're on
to the Jewish cuties today,
1:35:02
Adam Curry: well she's not who
she Jewish. Yes. Oh, she's the
1:35:06
daughter of two Polish Jewish
Holocaust survivors. I must have
1:35:11
been. Okay. All right. So she
shows up on my favorite hate
1:35:15
lists and pivot,
1:35:16
John C Dvorak: which she lists
her name again.
1:35:18
Adam Curry: Esther Perell, p e r
e, l, okay. And she shows up on
1:35:23
Pivot, my favorite hate listen.
And she has a concept which I
1:35:28
kind of like, which is AI is
artificial intimacy. Which I
1:35:33
liked, I liked I thought it was
it was a good guy. And so I want
1:35:37
to first a minute on the
artificial intimacy. And then
1:35:39
the clip that I think is
pertinent to what's happening in
1:35:42
the universities and
1:35:43
Unknown: modern loneliness. The
masks itself has hyper
1:35:47
connectivity. And so people have
easily 1000 virtual friends that
1:35:53
no one can ask to feed their
cat. And that loneliness that is
1:35:57
really a kind of depletion of
the social capital is extremely
1:36:03
powerful. It's more to men than
to women, but it's quite
1:36:06
generous. It's very important.
I've been very interested in
1:36:10
talking about modern loneliness
as it connects to the rise of
1:36:13
the other AI, artificial
intimacy. How often do you find
1:36:17
yourself working the whole day
on your laptop, then you can't
1:36:20
wait to close the screen, then
you go home, but you're too
1:36:23
tired. And all you do is watch
TV. Then while you watch TV,
1:36:26
you're also scrolling on your
phone. Then while you're
1:36:28
scrolling on your phone, you
lift your head and you see that
1:36:30
two people in the room are doing
the exact same thing. This is
1:36:34
modern loneliness. This is
artificial intimacy. I am there
1:36:37
but I am not present. And then I
talk to you about something that
1:36:41
really matters to me. And your
answer goes.
1:36:43
Adam Curry: Uh huh. Uh huh. All
right. So again, you don't
1:36:48
criticize don't criticize yet
because it's
1:36:51
John C Dvorak: your lead me and
you're leading me into two
1:36:53
clips.
1:36:54
Adam Curry: Good. We'll get to
that in a moment. So this is the
1:36:58
second and only other clip. So
as it pertains to what by
1:37:02
John C Dvorak: the way, stop.
She's You said she sounds
1:37:05
younger. Yo, sounds good. She's
65 She's not a young woman.
1:37:10
Adam Curry: Really? And the
unreal wiki page she she doesn't
1:37:13
I didn't look at her age really?
Now, let me say she is it right.
1:37:20
Now. She looks good. Then for 60
Oh, I just zoomed in okay to now
1:37:24
she looks like Victoria knew she
looks
1:37:25
John C Dvorak: like she's 65 It
looks like
1:37:28
Adam Curry: I really need to
click on those pictures. You
1:37:31
gotta
1:37:32
John C Dvorak: yet get
1:37:36
Adam Curry: busted. Okay.
Anyway. So this next clip, this
1:37:41
whole the whole thing was
because Kara and Scott, you
1:37:44
know, it's so difficult to talk
about the conflict and and she
1:37:52
brings in a little bit here
about you know, because of
1:37:57
course, you know, no one can
sleep you're scrolling all these
1:37:59
pictures is very bad for you
artificial and intimacy. And
1:38:03
then she drops this little
nugget, which to me explains
1:38:07
exactly why you're seeing
protests, which I think are
1:38:10
completely disingenuous. It's
just, let's just be for
1:38:15
something that everybody else is
for the new new things
1:38:19
Unknown: is changing something
in the world, not just in the
1:38:22
Middle East, the 10, it's not
sure that the image is really
1:38:25
the right image. And it really
tells the story that it pretends
1:38:27
to tell it's a total mindfuck.
There is, it's a little bit like
1:38:33
911, with 10 people titrate,
don't just watch it over and
1:38:37
over again, you will not sleep,
you literally will not sleep, I
1:38:41
am not sleeping. And I didn't
watch much. I just talked to
1:38:45
people. And that's enough. So
what you do after that, when you
1:38:49
feel like the tide is rising
inside of you. And you just feel
1:38:53
like you don't know what to do
with all of this is the most
1:38:57
important thing is to come
together with others to
1:38:59
experience collective trauma
collectively, to understand that
1:39:04
this is changing something in
the world, not just in the
1:39:07
Middle East, and to read poetry,
to talk about what's happened to
1:39:13
ask people where they are. I
think ally ship is extremely
1:39:16
important in a moment like this.
And all of those who missed the
1:39:20
ally ship of Black Lives Matter
will understand it even more. So
1:39:23
now that when somebody writes to
you just to say, I know you have
1:39:27
an attachment to that place, or
I know you know people there or
1:39:30
I know you know if you were
there recently or something that
1:39:34
says I know I see you there's
nothing else for me to say and
1:39:39
you answer this means a lot you
thought of me I exist in your
1:39:43
collective awareness and that is
a lot
1:39:47
Adam Curry: over socialized
under under educated ally ship
1:39:52
needing nut jobs.
1:39:55
John C Dvorak: That's what I
think you've been on that for a
1:39:58
while. I think you're right but
where did you get This
1:40:01
Adam Curry: Pro I told you from
pivot when? Friday
1:40:07
John C Dvorak: this is an up so
why do I say that?
1:40:13
Adam Curry: Why do Why do you
say that? What do you say? It's
1:40:15
not because
1:40:15
John C Dvorak: they just ran it
lowliness bit. Yeah, you know a
1:40:19
complete feature on NPR.
Loneliness. Yeah, I just picked
1:40:25
it up on Friday.
1:40:27
Adam Curry: Ah another up
uncovered. Wow. Okay, is I
1:40:37
played these clips.
1:40:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's go
loneliness one NPR, the United
1:40:41
States is experiencing an
epidemic of loneliness WoW
1:40:44
Report from the US Surgeon
General says about half of
1:40:47
adults claim they have
experienced loneliness.
1:40:49
Unknown: So for some advice on
how to make friends, we turn to
1:40:52
some young experts.
1:40:54
I make friends by sitting next
to them at lunch or in a class.
1:40:59
Adam Curry: Where is this person
12.
1:41:02
John C Dvorak: More like eight,
1:41:04
Unknown: it's a little hard in a
little easy. You could play with
1:41:08
them or they can play with you
1:41:10
John C Dvorak: stop right there.
You know, now, as you mentioned
1:41:12
that they use these kids as
foils for this for this feature
1:41:15
that they're doing on
loneliness. And I'm thinking
1:41:18
that they're kind of put in the
position where they have to do
1:41:22
this because there's some op
going on about loneliness, John,
1:41:25
we get
1:41:26
Adam Curry: our producers to
have their children say the most
1:41:28
horrible things I know. I mean,
you can get the kids to say
1:41:33
anything.
1:41:34
John C Dvorak: Right. But so
they put these kids because I
1:41:36
think they're trying to push
back against the app. But oh,
1:41:39
let's continue
1:41:40
Unknown: friends by sitting next
to them at lunch or in a class.
1:41:45
It's a little hard and a little
easy. You could play with them
1:41:49
or they can play with you.
1:41:51
Adam Curry: According to the
troll room. Bill Maher also
1:41:54
talked about loneliness epidemic
on his show on Friday on Friday.
1:42:00
Hey, everybody, we dropped the
OP on Friday.
1:42:03
John C Dvorak: And Friday was
the day of the of the 13th the
1:42:07
raid global day every day. Ah,
1:42:11
Unknown: so you should ask them
nicely. Try to be nice, because
1:42:15
usually people don't want to be
your friends. If you're mean to
1:42:19
them. Oh, that's
1:42:21
Liliana Beckwith Collins a dusky
and Liliana is brother, Owen
1:42:24
Beckwith. The fear of rejection
sometimes holds people back from
1:42:28
making friends.
1:42:30
When you assume people like you,
you are friendlier, you are
1:42:32
warmer, you're more open, you
take more initiative,
1:42:35
that is University of Maryland
psychologist Marisa Franco.
1:42:38
She's the author of Platonic how
the science of attachment can
1:42:42
help you make and keep friends.
And she says, paying attention
1:42:46
to people can help you connect
with them.
1:42:48
Adam Curry: Wow, do they at any
point say if an older person
1:42:52
comes to you, you can trust them
to be your friend.
1:42:56
John C Dvorak: No idea what the
point of this op is. But the
1:42:59
fact that we have three things
going on simultaneously on the
1:43:02
same day, which you'd think
they'd spread it out a little
1:43:04
bit. I know, it's very
suspicious. Now that they kind
1:43:08
of demeaned the whole thing here
on this NPR report. But in the
1:43:10
second half, it's kind of the
second clip. It's kind of funny
1:43:16
because the woman who's doing
the Who's, who's the presenter
1:43:20
has to demean herself I think at
the very end and the whole thing
1:43:25
I believe falls apart, but you
know, it continues.
1:43:28
Unknown: If you're just like,
present, and you're just like
1:43:32
interested in people like That's
enough, you don't have to charm
1:43:37
people.
1:43:38
Having someone to confide in can
also affect the way your body
1:43:42
deals with stressful situations.
Research shows strong social
1:43:45
connections can reduce the risk
of heart disease dementia and
1:43:48
improve your overall well being.
Yeah, just as four year old
1:43:51
Edith wintech when I'm with my
friend and makes me feel happy.
1:43:57
Okay, so a you don't have any
trouble making friends. Am I
1:44:01
right?
1:44:02
No, I do because I don't want
any new friends. I describe
1:44:06
myself as friendly not social.
So in order to make new friends
1:44:10
you kind of have to be social
and I don't want to do that.
1:44:14
So can I be your friend?
1:44:16
I thought we were what do you do
audition now is
1:44:20
just checking I was just making
sure because you know we're all
1:44:24
we're both nice
1:44:25
Adam Curry: this is this has got
to be binary is this something
1:44:28
else coming to this
1:44:30
John C Dvorak: I believe I
believe you're right something's
1:44:32
up there How about a new dr.
strange and by the way I was
1:44:36
gonna be a good lead into the no
agenda meetup section because
1:44:40
into this a you have you have
you start making new friends you
1:44:42
you're happier. This
1:44:43
Adam Curry: is correct. And I
was planning on doing that
1:44:46
because well I will do it again.
But before we even get to the
1:44:49
meet up section, we need to talk
about the PhD.
1:44:56
John C Dvorak: Yes, here's my
here's what we're doing for the
1:44:58
CIT show. 16 103 Through the
16th anniversary, and probably
1:45:02
and I
1:45:03
Adam Curry: don't even know the
entire deal here. So this is new
1:45:06
for me is we're gonna you
1:45:07
John C Dvorak: know, most you
know, 99% of it,
1:45:09
Adam Curry: I'd say 80%
1:45:12
John C Dvorak: We're going to do
a no agenda is going to be
1:45:15
certificated and recorded, put
on a website, and we're not
1:45:20
going to do it forever, we're
going to do it for a month, at
1:45:22
most, because this work that Jay
is going to have to do.
1:45:27
Adam Curry: Talking about
getting your kids to do
1:45:29
something nice, and
1:45:30
John C Dvorak: she's going to
charge us for it. So it's gonna
1:45:32
be Oh, it's not frozen. So not
so funny is so we're going to
1:45:39
grant the show itself is going
to grant a PhD in media
1:45:45
deconstruction. And we're going
to do it in a in a in a, in a
1:45:49
way it's done it. Everyone does
it the same way by charging you
1:45:53
money.
1:45:55
Adam Curry: Just like a reel of
institutions, just like a real
1:45:58
college, will it be $500,000 for
a four year education, which
1:46:03
John C Dvorak: is by is a
bargain by comparison is going
1:46:06
to be $1,000. It's not a
cumulative bull thing. It's
1:46:11
$1,000. Straight up, you will
get a knighthood and an
1:46:14
executive producer, but it's not
that you can say well, I've
1:46:18
already contributed 500 to my
knighthood, here's 500 Give
1:46:21
Adam Curry: me let me let me ask
you a question. Can you name
1:46:23
your doc Can you say I'm now a
doctor of deconstruction? Or can
1:46:27
you say I'm a Doctor of
something else? Do you get to
1:46:29
name your your PhD or your
field?
1:46:31
John C Dvorak: You You can do
whatever you want. Now, on the
1:46:33
PhD it says Doctor philosophy
for Media Studies. Exactly. You
1:46:39
would if you put it on the wall,
it would pass by and say
1:46:42
Adam Curry: you have oh, you
have a you have a p at European
1:46:44
HD? Yeah. Is it just as valid as
any other PhD?
1:46:50
John C Dvorak: depends on your
perspective?
1:46:52
Adam Curry: Okay, like, like a
knighthood or an executive
1:46:55
producer ship?
1:46:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, was
definitely as valuable as a
1:46:58
knighthood. Is it as $1,000
Straight up, that's it. It's not
1:47:02
$1,000 plus or minus anything?
$1,000 or more, you get a
1:47:08
knighthood, a PhD and an
executive producer ship all in
1:47:11
one.
1:47:11
Adam Curry: Let's put this just
as valid as Joe Biden's PhD. Am
1:47:17
I right?
1:47:18
John C Dvorak: As far as I'm
concerned.
1:47:20
Adam Curry: All right. And when
we kick this off on the next
1:47:23
show on 1600 are on Yeah, we
kick
1:47:26
John C Dvorak: it off, or you
can kick it off. Now actually,
1:47:27
today, we have a high donation
of 3000. And this person will
1:47:31
retroactively if he wants the,
if he wants to PhD, we'll give
1:47:36
it to him because it would be
unfair to not give it to
1:47:39
somebody who donated that much
the day before we announced the
1:47:42
donations. So that's a
retroactive when we can do that.
1:47:46
But from from now on, it's
$1,000 that's what it's gonna
1:47:49
cost we figure I figure we'll
get 10 or 20 people to do
1:47:52
Adam Curry: i mean i i spent
three months in college I have
1:47:55
nothing to show for it. It's you
will have a PhD and a hoodie and
1:47:58
I will not have a PhD you know
what I'm gonna
1:48:00
John C Dvorak: wait wait if you
give $1,000
1:48:04
Adam Curry: DON I want
1:48:06
John C Dvorak: you get a PhD as
because you're signing the beard
1:48:09
your signatures on
1:48:12
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage in
1:48:14
the morning to the man who put
the seeds in the Doctor of
1:48:17
deconstruction by this gentleman
Hello my friend Mr. Johnson
1:48:26
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
do you miss random cranium
1:48:27
O'Neill's chips and see boots on
the ground feed yourselves in
1:48:30
the water names and nights out
there
1:48:32
Adam Curry: hello trolls in the
room if you don't mind would you
1:48:35
please put your hands up I want
to I want to catch that
1:48:42
people are interested in us 2381
Trolls listening live right now.
1:48:47
That's not That's okay. It's low
no it's not
1:48:51
John C Dvorak: low would be 2400
Sunday.
1:48:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that was
Sunday. Sunday and I just Sunday
1:48:57
night your low some of you
leaked out some of you some you
1:49:01
crept out what are you doing?
Anyway we need more trolls
1:49:05
trolls if you want to join us I
you know who you are. You know
1:49:07
you're a trophy or troll you
know who you are. Join us a
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troll room.io Or get a modern
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gonna want one of these. When
when the fake news is
1:49:18
everything's coming down.
Everything's gonna
1:49:21
John C Dvorak: stay good. Yeah.
Yeah, that guy has sent a note
1:49:24
to the hamburger place owners
gonna have to meet up Yeah. Do
1:49:28
you have his email? Should we
Doc's him?
1:49:30
Adam Curry: No, no, in fact, I
emailed him you want to know
1:49:36
what to email me? Yeah. Second.
Yeah. Because I he's because it
1:49:40
came through an email to him.
Where is it here? I think I have
1:49:45
it here. Not going to Doc's.
Anybody you kidding me? Susan
1:49:53
idea. No, you are you're a
troll. Get in the troll room
1:49:57
right away. Here it is. I said.
So I forwarded the email that I
1:50:04
got from the burger joint guy.
And I said to this, Troy said, I
1:50:08
forgive you for doing this. AC
and he replied, Go fuck
1:50:12
yourself. Okay? That was
basically it. I'm like, No, man,
1:50:18
I forgive me. You
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: don't want to
Daxing me or use email. No, I've
1:50:21
Adam Curry: when I forgive. I
forgive. It's done. It's um, I'm
1:50:25
not keeping that on me. It's
fine. I'm okay. It's all right.
1:50:28
We know that our bad guy
1:50:30
John C Dvorak: is a real creep
is really amazing that they find
1:50:33
our show.
1:50:33
Adam Curry: Well, he's, he's got
something stuck in his craw
1:50:37
about that. What can I tell you?
Anyway? Because I'm sure he'll
1:50:42
be emailing apple and in every
other place like oh, what get
1:50:46
these guys off there homophobes
at transphobes. So that's why
1:50:51
you want a modern app from
podcast apps.com. And these apps
1:50:55
also alert us
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: in the guy had
his nuts cut off.
1:51:00
Adam Curry: When we go live, you
get an alert, you can listen to
1:51:03
the stream live. It's really
It's quite amazing what we're
1:51:06
doing over there to podcasting.
2.0 So do that, or just follow
1:51:10
us? By no agenda. social.com
John C. Dvorak. No agenda
1:51:14
social.com. Adam at no agenda
social icon. Well, no, I'm not
1:51:16
posting anymore. I'm kind of
done. I'm reading I am reading
1:51:20
but I'm not posting I'll repost
something. Now it's too
1:51:23
polarized. Everyone's got an
opinion. Everyone's I got no
1:51:26
time for it. It's just as bad as
any other social network that
1:51:30
you started it. I did. And now
it's like, it's our home curry.
1:51:36
What do you think you are? It's
our home. Anything it's becoming
1:51:42
it's becoming like no agenda
forums?
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: No, nothing. When
they start starting their own?
1:51:49
No idea. What's it no agenda
social podcast, then? Yeah.
1:51:54
Okay, then you got some.
1:51:55
Adam Curry: Now see, that never
works. Because people quickly we
1:51:59
saw that we saw that when it was
like the kind of the anti no
1:52:03
agenda podcast and they couldn't
keep up because it takes a lot
1:52:06
of work and dedication to do a
show twice a week. And they
1:52:10
couldn't even deconstruct our
deconstruction, they got tired
1:52:12
of it. Like
1:52:15
Unknown: it's too much work too
much
1:52:16
Adam Curry: work to keep up with
these guys. Now. One of the main
1:52:21
reasons we're still here 16
years you heard it right there.
1:52:25
Almost 1600 episodes a very
interesting confluence of, of
1:52:30
numbers that cross this month is
because we haven't relied on
1:52:34
advertising. If we relied on
advertising, sponsorship,
1:52:37
underwriting, whatever you want
to call it, we would have been
1:52:40
long gone, because it wouldn't
have wouldn't have been able to
1:52:43
sustain ourselves with it, which
we need, then we can't do this
1:52:47
work as everything full. It's a
full time job. You're always all
1:52:51
everything we do is prep. Yeah,
go out to dinner with a friend
1:52:54
show prep. Yeah. There's a
there's a, I'm here in
1:52:58
Fredericksburg, there's an
eclipse show prep. Everything is
1:53:01
show prep. And then just the
incoming I've been busy, at
1:53:05
least after filtering the 115
emails in the morning. And then
1:53:10
throughout the day, another 100.
And I read it all I read it all
1:53:13
I have to, because there's
always going to be that one gem
1:53:16
that you miss if you don't feel
like hey, man, can your
1:53:20
assistant reply to me? No,
there's no assistant. Donations
1:53:25
are not that good. I wish. I
wish. So we all we asked for his
1:53:30
time, talent, treasure, and we
so appreciate the talent and the
1:53:35
time that people put into making
the show great, such as our
1:53:39
night Daniel, who does no agenda
meet ups.com now more important
1:53:42
than ever, as we just heard,
because you need to get rid of
1:53:46
the artificial intimacy and get
some real intimacy. Look in
1:53:49
people's eyes when you talk to
them and not have to be worried.
1:53:52
Because even if you have a
completely different opinion
1:53:54
from another no agenda producer,
no one's going to vilify you say
1:53:57
well, I don't agree with you.
Because we're normal amygdalas
1:54:01
here, normal size. One of the
great talents that we receive,
1:54:07
every single show is from our no
agenda artists, we appreciate
1:54:10
them so much. They do such great
work. And the artwork we had for
1:54:15
episode 1598 titled that one
guardrails was an anomaly and
1:54:20
people notice it right away.
They said, Oh my God is like an
1:54:23
upside down stamp. Curry Dvorak
is not on the artwork, which is
1:54:28
a pretty much a prerequisite.
But we laughed so hard when we
1:54:32
saw this from Matt Boisvert. We
just had to chuckle when, when
1:54:38
we saw the terror leader one leg
one I missing right here living
1:54:44
in a cave answer to the name of
Lucky foundries.
1:54:48
John C Dvorak: It's an old guy,
right? Have an old joke.
1:54:50
Adam Curry: It was great. And it
was. I mean, there was one other
1:54:54
stuff that we Well, I kind of
1:54:56
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
somebody. We noticed that was
1:55:00
No, I did that there was no
curry Devorah icon there. So it
1:55:03
wasn't like it slipped by us. It
was one of those artworks that
1:55:07
we made an exception.
1:55:09
Adam Curry: Yeah, it happens.
Yeah, we make it we make
1:55:13
exceptions. We do the I like the
The Spy Who Loved Iran and which
1:55:21
I thought was a pretty piece and
you correctly said and by the
1:55:24
way you can follow along no
agenda art generator.com Dred
1:55:27
Scott also puts these pieces of
artwork into the show notes so
1:55:31
you can see what we're talking
about. If you look at your
1:55:33
modern app right now you can see
it in the chapters. And you said
1:55:37
correctly Well, if you don't
really know what's going on just
1:55:39
looks like a James Bond on LSD.
I'm like, Yeah, okay. It was
1:55:44
pretty though. But it wasn't as
funny as the terror leader. You
1:55:48
know, we're not going to do
Stars of David you know, what
1:55:53
else the you use it for the
newsletter the peanuts
1:56:00
John C Dvorak: that I did? I
thought you did. Yeah. Yeah, I
1:56:03
didn't use that penis. Ah, why
do I have the newsletter? I
1:56:06
think I can tell you what I use.
No, I use the the
1:56:10
Adam Curry: the yes, the P of
war calendar. You laugh? Yes.
1:56:13
Yeah. But I look at that and
like that's it was commerce or
1:56:16
blog or AI generated so not
stolen? Totally stolen. That
1:56:20
I've seen that from that's
1:56:21
John C Dvorak: totally stolen. I
don't care if it's aaj if you
1:56:23
can generate Peanuts characters.
That's a copyright viral
1:56:28
violation. I don't care if it's
done by AI. But it's that stolen
1:56:32
art that is never going to get
used You thief.
1:56:37
Adam Curry: Oh, the so the the
faux diddly had a do the math.
1:56:43
And I actually sat with a
calculator and we're trying to
1:56:46
figure out
1:56:47
John C Dvorak: like oh no, we
gave up after two rounds.
1:56:50
Attempts. It's like
1:56:51
Adam Curry: I can't this what is
this artwork about what? I'm
1:56:54
hoping 33 pops out somewhere but
no.
1:56:57
John C Dvorak: So that was my if
you do do whatever he wants to
1:57:00
do, I'm
1:57:00
Adam Curry: not sure I don't
know how to do
1:57:02
John C Dvorak: it. Right
numerological tricks
1:57:04
Adam Curry: every odd it didn't
work at all for us the math yeah
1:57:09
so and there were other good
looking pieces for sure. Good
1:57:12
looking pieces. But nothing
quite like the terror leader who
1:57:17
we have who has not emerged as a
meme yet so maybe
1:57:19
John C Dvorak: we it's possible
that you're all you're going to
1:57:21
be wrong on this one I might be
1:57:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, Muhammad de F
it's the right kind of guy but
1:57:28
now
1:57:28
John C Dvorak: he's got all the
he's got the all the elements
1:57:32
Adam Curry: He's got everything
we need he's we don't know where
1:57:34
he lives. Got one I missing a
leg. I am this perfect. But no.
1:57:40
So far no good.
1:57:43
John C Dvorak: Again, we're so
far ahead of the game on this
1:57:46
deconstruction stuff that we can
do
1:57:48
Adam Curry: months from now does
happen it does happen so thank
1:57:50
you very much. Matt for Matt
boys word for boys. Ver I wonder
1:57:55
how you pronounce it. We really
appreciate the work of all of
1:57:58
the nogen artists we get such a
kick out of it every single time
1:58:01
and we just love that we're
arguing over real work real
1:58:06
input from people and remember
you're not doing it for us
1:58:08
you're doing it for no agenda
nation you do it for your
1:58:10
brothers and sisters. That's
what's going on here. I mean in
1:58:14
that regard, yes. No agenda
socialists also that's you're
1:58:16
doing all that for each other.
That's That's all fine. So
1:58:20
that's your time and talent. The
treasure portion is of course
1:58:24
critical to keeping the show
going. Then the good showing
1:58:28
today in no small part thanks to
our top executive producer I
1:58:33
didn't even see this I mean, I'm
really look at the I have no
1:58:37
time in the morning to read the
whole the whole spreadsheet but
1:58:40
this is from some earthling in
Houston in Woodlands Texas
1:58:45
$3,000 Now I'm blown away I'm
blown away by this Adam leaves
1:58:50
the note Adam and John thank you
for not only wading through the
1:58:53
much each week to the I think it
means the muck each week to
1:58:57
provide us with much NO I may be
much might be too much to
1:59:01
provide us with the treasure you
find but for truly doing it with
1:59:04
your independent approach the NA
ecosystem and culture rocks and
1:59:08
we cannot thank you enough for
creating it. Thank you again for
1:59:12
truly helping us scour so many
sources searching for the truth
1:59:15
Yes you do. You do. Clips, boots
on the ground all kinds of great
1:59:19
your own personal experiences
all part of the system. That's
1:59:22
why you're all producers, not
listeners or fans. Most of all,
1:59:26
thank you for being such an
inspirational example of
1:59:29
independence, the V four v and
other things y'all do, to remain
1:59:33
free of influence etc is
incredible. Honestly, I want to
1:59:37
write a novel to you both just
exploring these two principles
1:59:40
but I will refrain for now thank
you. Simply put, what you do and
1:59:44
have done is appreciated more
than you can know your prayers
1:59:47
karma in Sudha insert how you
view it will be appreciated as
1:59:50
well. You got it. I'll give that
to you. I would love to pick
1:59:53
your brains with either if you'd
be open to a short interview I
1:59:56
may be in I may even be in order
to come to Fredericksburg. If
1:59:59
that's In the cards, I'll meet
you, brother, or sister, or
2:00:03
sling, some Earthlink, or sling
or sling. You can't use the
2:00:07
actual alien, you come to
Fredericksburg. Of course, Dad,
2:00:10
I'll take you out to lunch.
2:00:13
John C Dvorak: He's the
woodlands. So it's
2:00:14
Adam Curry: not. It's not just a
drive. It's a couple of drive to
2:00:19
a couple of thank you so much.
And, and congratulations on now.
2:00:23
Are these PhDs numbered?
2:00:26
John C Dvorak: No, but they're
listed they're going to be
2:00:28
listed in a an archive.
2:00:29
Adam Curry: Okay, they will be
an online Well, you were the
2:00:32
first one to receive
2:00:33
John C Dvorak: like, an official
like, well, you actually think
2:00:35
about it, you know, that would
be the number and number them
2:00:40
one slash 100 It would be more
of an artwork you're getting but
2:00:46
no, we're not doing that.
2:00:48
Adam Curry: You could have just
said no, but thanks for the long
2:00:50
day.
2:00:52
John C Dvorak: Thinking about
it. The problem is you got to be
2:00:54
thinking about it.
2:00:55
Adam Curry: Some earthling Thank
you very much. Here's the karma
2:00:58
your requests I shall pray for
you. You've got karma.
2:01:04
John C Dvorak: He well. Was good
news from the no agenda shop in
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Fayetteville, Georgia. They have
our cut of the action $14.18
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Since ITM guys the shop is still
alive as the shop you should go
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visit because they got cool
stuff to do. And here although I
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think is I think the website it
could be easier to find some of
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the cool stuff. Here's your cut
artists have been paid as well.
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If anyone is looking for
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tequila review podcast at still
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podcasts are heard, take you for
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2:01:42
Adam Curry: And again this is a
perfect example of time talent
2:01:45
and treasure no agenda shop they
can do whatever they want to do
2:01:50
we have no agreements no
contracts, run with it. And we
2:01:53
have we have one restriction
don't put our heads on anything.
2:01:56
They work out a deal with the
artists who are all nodes in our
2:01:59
generator and then whenever
there's something leftover
2:02:01
whenever they feel this right
that send a donation. And there
2:02:05
you go. And we've we've we've
never even met them in person.
2:02:10
John C Dvorak: And what's cool
is that we don't do shirts they
2:02:12
do. We don't do hats they do and
people that do shirts and hats
2:02:16
and all the rest that's a
business separate from
2:02:19
podcasting to an extreme. We'd
be losing $814.18 Euro
2:02:27
Adam Curry: Yes, we would
exactly what happened and we'd
2:02:30
have to have meetings. Oh god no
great lusty is in Tomahawk
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Wisconsin. 477 dot 77
Interesting. Oh, I see driving
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1077 miles from Tomahawk,
Wisconsin. For the thirsty Third
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Thursday meet up in Charlotte,
North Carolina. See what well
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with three douchebags in Tao in
tow. Wow, that's some
2:02:54
dedication. And yeah, and it
will pay off. You will love it.
2:02:58
Great, lusty? Send us a report.
Send this report.
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John C Dvorak: Anonymous in
Biloxi, Mississippi. Four.
2:03:08
Three. Biloxi is a really nice
place. By the way. I've been
2:03:11
guys first time donating well
forgiving me pod father, but I
2:03:15
just wanted to express my
appreciation for the show,
2:03:18
especially during COVID. I was
an avid Joe Rogan listener when
2:03:21
COVID first started, and I
listened to the episode with
2:03:25
that lunatic Michael Osterholm
and him saying a million people
2:03:29
are gonna die
2:03:31
Adam Curry: 1,000,003 million.
2:03:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says a
million in the note. Yeah, he
2:03:35
said 3 million. And it's going
to get really bad. Really bad it
2:03:42
actually had. Oh, it actually
had me freaking out a little
2:03:45
bit. And I consider myself a
very rational person. But I went
2:03:48
back and listened to Adams
episode. And luckily he plugged
2:03:52
the show that plugging the show
helps works, even though when
2:03:59
Adam was talking about people
getting rings and nice things so
2:04:02
it was a little weird at the
time, but I'll check it out. And
2:04:07
ever since I haven't missed an
episode. Yeah, I can see how by
2:04:12
not listening to the show and
only watching the M five M I
2:04:16
could have easily been one of
those people double masked up
2:04:19
driving around in my car by
myself and with my fifth jab by
2:04:24
now. But I just wanted to
express my sincere appreciation
2:04:28
for both you during that time
and today for keeping us sane
2:04:31
for two to three $3.33 I'm
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Adam Curry: gonna give him a
deducing because didn't ask for
2:04:35
it. But it's the first donation
so
2:04:38
Unknown: you've been de Deus.
I'll do the next
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Adam Curry: to him. Because Earl
Christopher in Marshfield,
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Wisconsin out of Wisconsin today
for some reason. I've always
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Wisconsin clip coming up later.
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offer me each week. I appreciate
your perspective and enjoy your
2:05:29
back and forth but my favorite
part is still Adams delivery of
2:05:33
your award winning Gitmo nation
media assassination. If I might
2:05:37
ask my ask for three things one
detachment if
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
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Adam Curry: was really easy to I
want to jobs karma for my
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fledgling business. Bronze,
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agenda for 15% off. I might try.
What are you drinking?
2:06:13
John C Dvorak: My last can of
polar? Eileen seltzer since you
2:06:17
Adam Curry: never asked. I'm
drinking a Waterloo watermelon.
2:06:20
Huh? How is it? I don't taste
any watermelon at all. Could you
2:06:27
please give me my favorite
jingle rub Eliza thank you for
2:06:29
your courage. Josh Konings zikr
in piglet South Carolina
2:06:35
Unknown: in the standby 333 33
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2:06:44
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:06:52
John C Dvorak: De Fuca zotoh Our
buddy in Gladstone, Missouri,
2:06:55
Dave and oh, they do go
everywhere.
2:06:58
Adam Curry: Duke of America's
heartland and the Arabian
2:07:01
Peninsula.
2:07:02
John C Dvorak: Happy 16 116
years getting in before the mad
2:07:05
rush. Here's hoping is a good
donation spree to keep you all
2:07:09
in the chatter. Please give my
pop a birthday shout out he's on
2:07:14
the list and a healthy healthy
dose of South Carolina scream
2:07:19
karma. Keep on keeping in.
2:07:22
Adam Curry: Dave scre Oh, South
Oh, hold on a second. I didn't
2:07:25
have that one lined up five.
Yes, we have it here. You've got
2:07:37
now this next one, I recognize
the name and I don't see a note
2:07:41
but I know that the note was
posted to my timeline. On no
2:07:46
agenda social. I do want to pull
this up for a second because
2:07:50
it's from Jason rich. And he's a
member of the beef initiative on
2:07:56
a second let me see if I could
find Yeah, and it was his first
2:08:00
time donating so I don't know
how we maybe thought by posting
2:08:03
it on the on the origin the
social that it Well, some
2:08:07
John C Dvorak: people I've seen
people do that. I have no idea
2:08:10
why they're doing that. Well,
2:08:11
Adam Curry: he's you know, it's
his first time so now I guess.
2:08:14
Oh, we go. Jason rich just
donate for the first time. It
2:08:18
was great to sit on the porch.
And by the way, what did he
2:08:20
donate? What was his amount
here? 33333. It was great to sit
2:08:24
on the porch with you and slim
at White Oak pastures. That was
2:08:27
Georgia when we actually did the
show from there. Thanks for
2:08:30
everything you've done for the
beef initiative for anyone in
2:08:32
Colorado looking for grass fed
and finished beef. We are the
2:08:36
hookup they can find us on
Twitter at Jason rich WR ich
2:08:40
this Monday the 16th will will
be my 45th trip around the sun.
2:08:45
My wife and I just purchased the
neighboring ranch and are fixing
2:08:48
it up for Airbnb and wedding or
conference venue. Yeah, all
2:08:52
right. So I gotta put Jason rich
on the on the Birthday Calendar
2:08:57
cause he's not there. Well,
thank you very much brother. It
2:08:59
was Believe me it was a lot of
fun hanging out with you there
2:09:03
as well. And I'll give you a DD
2:09:08
Unknown: D deuced.
2:09:11
John C Dvorak: Give me the put
some flank stakes aside, though
2:09:14
game Cheryl Wetzel in Pineville
Wyoming 33333 She sent an actual
2:09:20
physical note and check in and
you can tell because
2:09:26
Adam Curry: Yep, makes no no.
2:09:28
John C Dvorak: Oh Jensen
pintail, Wyoming happy 16 years
2:09:31
loving to show thank you for
highlighting the absurdity of
2:09:33
the world that we now live in.
So many discussions are so sad
2:09:37
but your voice has helped to
lighten the burden of the
2:09:39
insanity. I happen to have some
knowledge of rapid test kits and
2:09:43
it is beyond shocking. Beyond
Shocking. Shocking, that it is
2:09:49
now okay to willy nilly extended
an expiration date without going
2:09:54
back to the FDA to prove that it
gets still works absurd. Since I
2:09:59
do not believe that Cove to even
exist These kits are most
2:10:03
certainly crap. Even before
expert exploration. I would dare
2:10:09
say they are designed to be
designed to be an accurate Yes,
2:10:13
I suppose as long as the
internal control is working, the
2:10:16
test must be right. Right. The
promotion is that these kits
2:10:19
work best on the fourth day is
genius. Because of the dingbats
2:10:24
that I know, most of which are
no better good. We'll test all
2:10:28
four days because the primary
symptoms for COVID is now I
2:10:31
don't feel right.
2:10:34
Adam Curry: My nose is running.
2:10:39
John C Dvorak: The kiss must be
flying off the shelves. Final
2:10:42
note that recently a colleague
announced that she was COVID
2:10:46
positive at just after her
recent flu shot. Isn't that
2:10:49
interesting? She didn't have any
symptoms other than fatigue, you
2:10:53
know? She just didn't feel
right. She is waiting for PCR
2:10:57
confirmation can't do good work.
Good. Thank you for your courage
2:11:00
Dame Cheryl cowgirl of the Wind
River Range wa oming does she
2:11:04
want any? She wants the F 35
Scream? Oh, she also
2:11:07
Adam Curry: wants the F 35
scream Oh, one second. Sounds
2:11:12
like you got COVID
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
feel right.
2:11:23
Unknown: Karma.
2:11:24
Adam Curry: Nothing is a winner.
That's a winner. Jennifer Davies
2:11:28
is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
And she also has a note which he
2:11:31
sent in and I have that note
here. And Hi, John and Adam.
2:11:35
This executive producer donation
is in honor of my smokin hot
2:11:37
husband Oh switcheroo Jonathan's
50th birthday on October 16.
2:11:42
He's been listening to your show
for a long time. caps. And I
2:11:46
figured it was time to make an
honest podcast listeners out of
2:11:49
him. I can't think of a better
birthday gift for his 50th time
2:11:52
around the sun than an executive
producer credit for the best
2:11:55
podcast in the universe. Please
dee doo
2:12:00
Unknown: dee doo sched
2:12:03
Adam Curry: That is very cool.
It's a great birthday cake. You
2:12:05
should also probably just give
them a flame thrower or
2:12:07
something like that. It's also
cool 50 year old guys like that.
2:12:10
Jonathan is a hard working man,
faithful husband and amazing dad
2:12:14
to our for human resources. He
hit me in the mouth a few years
2:12:17
ago, and I have to be honest, at
first, I thought it was getting
2:12:20
corrupted by the show. Wow, was
the marriage on the rocks. But
2:12:29
when I actually started
listening, my eyes were opened
2:12:32
and my amygdala expanded. I'll
always be grateful. Thanks for
2:12:37
all you do. Please play China's
as Whoa, it's true. Oh, I didn't
2:12:40
get the it's true part. I missed
that. I just thought it's true.
2:12:43
That's true. Whereas it's
worthy. It's true ladies. And we
2:12:49
had no been asked for that one
in a while.
2:12:53
John C Dvorak: Because it's gone
out of favor.
2:12:55
Adam Curry: It's true. I got
Donald Trump it's true. What is
2:12:59
John C Dvorak: run into a number
of people who said that they
2:13:01
couldn't listen to the show
because they felt it was
2:13:03
corrupting them.
2:13:05
Adam Curry: Really? Really now?
Yeah. corrupting them in what
2:13:10
way? I don't know.
2:13:17
I can't find this anymore. What
is this? It's true. That's not
2:13:21
the right one. Where's the
ladies? It's true. Oh, it's not
2:13:25
it's true. It's That's true.
That's true. See? They messed me
2:13:29
up there you go. There you go.
Yes, I got you ladies right
2:13:33
here. Okay. Don't trust China.
China is as Hoh.
2:13:41
John C Dvorak: ESP ICT All
right, there you go. And I'm
2:13:45
gonna go to our Associate
Executive Producer Ryan de
2:13:48
Blasio in Fishers Indiana. To
2222 A row of ducks. From the
2:13:55
artwork to the end of the show
mixes and everything in between.
2:13:59
Show 1598 was superb. Thank you,
Ryan de Aza, Zo.
2:14:06
Adam Curry: Anna, you're
welcome. Anonymous is an
2:14:08
Amsterdam with a row of ducks.
two to two. Hi, John Adams has
2:14:11
been a while since I donated so
here take my money. I'm a
2:14:14
painter from Amsterdam who likes
to sneak his politics into his
2:14:17
paintings. Whoa. Ooh, I got Oh,
he was gonna
2:14:21
John C Dvorak: look him up. I
didn't. He has been he's
2:14:23
anonymous in he can't read the
name of his website because he's
2:14:27
not anonymous anymore. So we
can't plug his stuff.
2:14:29
Adam Curry: Well, really,
because it's just an Instagram.
2:14:32
It doesn't doesn't have his name
on there.
2:14:35
John C Dvorak: Well, it's up to
you if you want to violate his
2:14:37
desires to be anonymous. And he
says sometimes I know use it
2:14:41
into notes. So
2:14:43
Adam Curry: now I'm conflicted.
Some Well you tell me tell me if
2:14:47
it's worth showing first.
Sometimes the show inspires me
2:14:50
for a painting title like the
green leap forward. Thanks for
2:14:54
that one. Adam. Federal
listeners who like art from
2:14:57
outside of the lefty plantation
can find my He wants it can find
2:15:01
my work on my Instagram account
on the Insta pet Rex art p e t r
2:15:07
e x AR T pet Rex art. PS I made
that Grumpy Old Men artwork a
2:15:12
few shows ago of course. I know
you don't like your faces on
2:15:15
there the artwork was titled
Just for fun surprise. You
2:15:18
didn't catch that. Love the
show. No jingles no karma you
2:15:21
check it out.
2:15:23
John C Dvorak: It tried. I think
it's cut way back. What we do I
2:15:29
didn't know. I said I didn't
check it
2:15:31
Adam Curry: out. Oh, I'm
checking. Oh,
2:15:33
John C Dvorak: this is cool. See
you on his website.
2:15:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. On the on his
Insta. On his gram. Yeah, I can
2:15:40
see what he's doing here. Oh,
it's very, very, very different.
2:15:46
It's kind of cool. Kind of cool.
All right.
2:15:50
John C Dvorak: You got to say
good.
2:15:51
Adam Curry: I think so. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, I'd hang it on my
2:15:55
wall. Not the one with the
devil's horns. But the other
2:15:59
ones. Yeah, some good stuff. Oh,
2:16:01
John C Dvorak: yeah. James
Shea's up. Definitely. He's in
2:16:05
Brewster Mills, West Virginia,
to 1001 donation note email and
2:16:12
I do have it. Oh, good because I
forwarded I don't know why you
2:16:16
had to. Somehow so why didn't
didn't show up. I decided to
2:16:24
send a bank check this time
because John says that's the way
2:16:27
to go. So hopefully you can
match this note up with a check
2:16:31
when it comes in. And you find
out I saw this note too. I you
2:16:35
know, I didn't forward it to to
Jay though. I had to stop being
2:16:40
a freeloader. I hadn't donate in
a long time because the fuzzy
2:16:44
cows in the 10 for newsletter
got to me it was good. A lot of
2:16:49
people love those fuzzy cows I
love the cows. Your show
2:16:53
deserves more support. And we
know we need to recognize that
2:16:58
and step up Please play the
Emperor Hillary clip that I sent
2:17:04
you years ago that never gets
played No There you go. Oh I
2:17:10
have because I am holding on to
this dream that she will run
2:17:15
again solely for the value it
bring to the show. I would like
2:17:20
some goat karma please. Lastly,
I would like to change my night
2:17:24
name to sir. tip, tip theology
and certificate. Search Oh
2:17:31
certifiably insane, certifiably
got it is you can you put him on
2:17:36
the upgrade list is not on
there, I'm sure. Clear thanks,
2:17:39
fellas for the hard work you do
every week to bring us the best
2:17:42
podcast in the universe. Denise
goat Carmen and upbraiding name
2:17:47
Adam Curry: and this Hillary
Emperor clip from 2017 which I
2:17:50
found immediately
2:17:51
Unknown: by bidding my masters
this year on my birthday every
2:17:55
American gets a cupcake. Yes, my
master
2:18:00
you've got
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Adam Curry: Sir Go T Fisher.
Winter Springs, Florida. 201 dot
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33 Switcheroo okay. Hey John,
Adam, Adam and John. Actually, I
2:18:14
wore my no agenda University t
shirt out on the town Friday
2:18:18
13th And ended up at Ellen's
wine room in Sanford, Florida
2:18:22
and organically created a
fantastic impromptu meet up. We
2:18:26
had many people in the wine room
discussing no agenda after
2:18:28
sirloin and I hit people in the
mouth. The T shirt was an
2:18:31
amazing conversation piece.
Everyone should go to the no
2:18:35
agenda shop and buy their own T
shirts and enjoy the great
2:18:38
responses they create. Please de
Deus longtime listener Eric
2:18:44
Unknown: de Deus,
2:18:46
Adam Curry: owner of the wine
room Her name is Ellen
2:18:51
Unknown: de deuced
2:18:54
Adam Curry: please contribute
this donation to my keeper of 36
2:18:57
years and they never had a fight
Trish Holland do you do church
2:19:02
you've been de deuced and give
her and you know producer
2:19:07
credits that's the switcheroo
way I just did it to you got it.
2:19:11
I am also sending in a meet up
report as well. Yes received
2:19:14
gold scream love is lit karma.
Well, I'm not quite sure exactly
2:19:18
what that got goats Reman karma.
You got it man. Thank you very
2:19:20
much. You've got karma.
2:19:28
John C Dvorak: Mark Bognor, our
buddy in Los Angeles,
2:19:30
California. hudl Mark Bognor
$200.33. I humbly request to
2:19:36
John's my chair gently squeaks
jingle
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Unknown: t shirt The
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World Wide
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Adam Curry: squeeze. It is a
classic from Darren O'Neal.
2:20:21
Beautiful. Glad we could play a
little bit of that. Earl Pennell
2:20:25
p&l is in Ohio Youngstown, Ohio
200 ollars Associate Executive
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producer credits are real
people. ITM John Adam, new
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listener spot on evaluation of
the war in Israel. Hopefully
2:20:37
this donation makes up for any
listener that was lost. Can I
2:20:40
get some good karma? Thank you,
you've got karma.
2:20:48
John C Dvorak: And finally, we
got Linda Lou patcon, who's in
2:20:51
Lakewood, Colorado, I'm gonna
give her a jet UniSA jobs Garma
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I'm gonna give her a different
read this time for a resume that
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gets results. I say go to Image
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executive resume and job search
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with a k.com. Or just find Queen
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for jobs.
2:21:22
Adam Curry: Thank you all very
much. All of you, our exec or
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Associate Executive producers,
all of you receive a title one
2:21:28
that is completely real. It can
be used anywhere where the where
2:21:32
any type of title is recognized.
And we suggest you put on your
2:21:37
LinkedIn, your resume or go to
imdb.com. If you don't have an
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account that you probably don't,
but you do now, you'll see lots
2:21:43
of heavy hitters in Hollywood
even who have credits. And I
2:21:47
would send you to our donation
page for other people to learn
2:21:50
how you can become an Executive
Associate Executive Producer, I
2:21:54
believe you you didn't demoed a
beta version of the new donation
2:21:58
page.
2:21:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no agenda
donations.com with a plural
2:22:04
plural.
2:22:04
Adam Curry: How are we going to
we ended up going to stop or
2:22:06
divorce act.org/and? A?
2:22:08
John C Dvorak: No, I'm keeping
the other one alive for a year.
2:22:11
Adam Curry: You don't have the
credentials to even do anything
2:22:13
with it. That's the problem.
Just do it.
2:22:16
John C Dvorak: Why don't you.org
I can take do anything I want. I
2:22:20
got a Why don't you? Why don't
you for ft. I will but I there's
2:22:23
a couple of things that need to
be done to it first. Yeah.
2:22:25
Adam Curry: Like like find the
password. I know what's going
2:22:28
on. You can't fool me. Keep it
alive for a year. You know, I'm
2:22:34
going to remember this.
2:22:36
John C Dvorak: I still have I
still have people using the the
2:22:40
legacy account, which is a
decade or maybe longer, too old.
2:22:46
And I've talked to pay pal about
this because we now have an
2:22:49
account executive because you
know, that calls once in a
2:22:52
while.
2:22:53
Adam Curry: Or they say like,
Hey, what's this weird donation?
2:22:56
Are you guys terrorists?
2:22:58
John C Dvorak: Now they never do
they have done that. Oh, and so
2:23:00
the guy calls and I said, you
know, and he says, Well, I don't
2:23:02
know what we need, because he
would they have programs, you
2:23:05
know what get you on this great
deal. It works. Yeah. So I said,
2:23:09
Well, you know, we don't need
that. Okay, well, I explained
2:23:11
the business model and
everything to the guy and I
2:23:13
said, but the one thing you guys
could help with? And he
2:23:16
certainly, you know, it's not
really my job to do this. But he
2:23:19
says I'll give it a shot and see
if I can get it done. Which is
2:23:22
to move the the legacy account
all the people over to the
2:23:28
regular account and then get rid
of that thing.
2:23:30
Adam Curry: No, they can't do
that. They're gonna try, they
2:23:34
can see, you know, a friend of
mine lost the email that he had
2:23:41
his ex account registered to
when it was still Twitter. That
2:23:45
email address went away and they
cannot reset your password. If
2:23:51
you don't if you don't believe
what they can't do. It's just
2:23:54
not possible. He was lucky
enough to buy the domain back
2:23:58
and set up an email address to
get it back. But it's it's
2:24:02
impossible. It's crazy. It's
unbelievable what they can't do
2:24:06
what they can't do. Thank you
all execs and Associate
2:24:10
Executive producers. We have
some meetups we've got I think
2:24:13
we have a 92 nice things coming
up. We got some birthdays and
2:24:17
John will take us through the
50s with people who came in and
2:24:19
just this week.
2:24:22
John C Dvorak: Phil Barnett
starts us off in Brentwood,
2:24:24
Tennessee 15999 Sir Gregory in
Cincinnati, Ohio 12121. Sir
2:24:31
Jonathan in St. Louis, Missouri
1010 170 threes que es zero IHT
2:24:38
70 threes, Julia Saavedra in
Madison Heights Virginia. 100.
2:24:46
Lucas Williams and Roswell guy
in Roswell. I think we have a
2:24:50
couple of people we
2:24:50
Adam Curry: got we got goodies
from Roswell. I got a flying
2:24:52
saucer. Do
2:24:53
John C Dvorak: you ever get the
driver's license from the alien
2:24:56
driver's license, dude? Sure.
Did. I use it? I use it all Last
2:25:00
time I gave it I was at the bank
and to do a no me No.
2:25:06
Adam Curry: Yeah. And they
accepted it. No.
2:25:12
John C Dvorak: But they get the
biggest kick out image. First
2:25:16
day look at it like it's real.
That's hilarious. They look at
2:25:20
it and they go and they look and
they have a big funnel look for
2:25:24
what and then they figure out
it's a big joke. So
2:25:27
Adam Curry: so and so when you
go to the bank, which is a small
2:25:29
little bank, and you know,
they're all sitting there. Tears
2:25:33
that old queued again. Borax
coming in with checks.
2:25:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty
much. But just so I throw this
2:25:42
I've used it a couple of times
and he's always gets a chuckle.
2:25:45
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New
Mexico comes with 100 Clara,
2:25:50
Sierra Clara, Sierra, Sierra,
and Charlotte, North Carolina
2:25:53
this year Morris 100 Happy
birthday to her talented, smokin
2:25:58
hot boyfriend. There we go. Got
him on the list? Yes
2:26:01
Adam Curry: Are SCOBY sure he's
been around. So Scott and
2:26:03
John C Dvorak: Clayton,
California 100 Nisa de douching.
2:26:08
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:26:10
John C Dvorak: Stephen Shevlin.
And Southampton Massachusetts.
2:26:14
Nein. Nein, nein, nein. Kevin
McLaughlin. There he is.
2:26:17
Concord, North Carolina. Lover
American boobs. Duke of Luna 808
2:26:23
Breast Cancer Awareness save the
twins save the trends. Gary
2:26:28
blatten Wayne Pennsylvania 777.
David Jarman in North Turramurra
2:26:35
New South Wales Australia 75
Katyn Clifford. Bridge Ontario,
2:26:43
Canada 69 and 69 I got hairy
legs because what he says sure
2:26:48
did. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord
North Carolina 606 Again, Breast
2:26:54
Cancer Awareness Month save the
coconuts. Christopher dektor in
2:27:00
it 5678. Varun it and Dane and
the dame of Puget Sound and some
2:27:06
Manish buy for five forget a
birthday call out it's on the
2:27:10
list. Sir subterranean Shizen in
Saskatoon at the Paris of Canada
2:27:17
30 to 69. We put a birthday
biscuit because the birthday
2:27:22
here at the end. He also
2:27:26
Adam Curry: also wanted a
posthumous mothership boarding
2:27:28
pass for his friend Tanya's next
journey. All right, that's
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2:38:16
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ISOs first last time so now you
2:38:19
have to start
2:38:20
John C Dvorak: you know I think
you're right about this binary
2:38:22
nature this loneliness up.
2:38:24
Adam Curry: Oh, there's
something come and maybe it's a
2:38:25
drug you think it's a drug?
Maybe? Or?
2:38:28
John C Dvorak: I don't know they
can do something that will be
2:38:31
Adam Curry: a new survey. How
about a government run social
2:38:35
network? That's better for your
health.
2:38:38
John C Dvorak: When it happens,
we'll be the first one we'll
2:38:40
Adam Curry: know. We'll know.
We'll know. Yeah,
2:38:42
John C Dvorak: I have to. To one
of his kind of funny I don't
2:38:47
know if it's a good enough
showcase but it's funny is ISO
2:38:49
8010 80%
2:38:51
Unknown: of structures have been
decimated.
2:38:56
John C Dvorak: So long, long 80%
of structures have been
2:38:59
decimated just Yeah.
Interesting. All right. Well, I
2:39:03
try this one dystopian
nightmare. Guess Tolkien
2:39:07
Adam Curry: nightmare. I like it
nothing like a good Amy I so let
2:39:10
me see what
2:39:11
John C Dvorak: I've got. She's
got vocal fry in it too. I get
2:39:13
bonus vocal fry. It is bonus
2:39:16
Adam Curry: Tolkien nightmare.
Yeah, yeah, it's a bonus. It's a
2:39:19
bonus. Let's see what I got. The
things I do for this show. is
2:39:26
too long is too long.
2:39:27
Unknown: It's funny though.
2:39:28
It feels wrong but it's actually
right.
2:39:33
Adam Curry: And then my favorite
here's the ringer. I swallowed a
2:39:36
bug Come on.
2:39:41
John C Dvorak: You know it's
really good. dystopian
2:39:46
nightmare, like reflects the
show. Yeah. But I would go with
2:39:51
that. But if you want to use
it's up to you, you just use
2:39:54
your choice are you because I
know you love I swallowed a bug.
2:39:59
Adam Curry: I'm gonna I'm gonna
look at the troll room. Alright
2:40:01
troll room. Here we go first one
I swallowed up. And the second
2:40:07
Unknown: limit trolls. Tolkien
nightmare.
2:40:10
John C Dvorak: They're going to
pick the bug because the troll
2:40:13
room now
2:40:13
Adam Curry: I get bug bug bug.
Bug bug bug Amy bug. Yes AMI AMI
2:40:20
AMI bug bug bug. Bug bug bug bug
bug bug bug bug bug? Nightmare
2:40:25
bug? Wow, no toss it. Let's do
that. I'm gonna do dystopian
2:40:31
nightmare. I'm with you. It's
it. It's reflects the show that
2:40:35
can always play the bug.
2:40:37
John C Dvorak: How about this?
2:40:38
Adam Curry: No, don't make me
combo it.
2:40:41
John C Dvorak: I swallowed a bug
followed by Nestopia. Now
2:40:44
Adam Curry: it has to be three
seconds or less. That is the
2:40:47
rule. That's the rule. That's
the rule. But because I give you
2:40:50
that I will get the next clip.
Did you know In the world of
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podcasting that Rob Lowe has a
podcast
2:41:01
John C Dvorak: course why would
I know? I don't know that.
2:41:03
There's no way I would know
that. I didn't know it
2:41:05
Adam Curry: either. Rob Lowe has
a podcast. It's pretty
2:41:09
interesting. He had Arnold
Schwarzenegger on his podcast.
2:41:13
And this is a clip that's been
doing the rounds because it's
2:41:16
quite entertaining.
2:41:17
Unknown: Okay, let me ask you
this. And I asked people this
2:41:19
all the time. David Dreier, good
friend of ours. Yes. And good
2:41:23
man. served for many, many, many
years. He used to have the
2:41:27
greatest what makes me a
Republican and he had I think
2:41:30
four or five things I think was
in no particular strong
2:41:34
military, low taxes, less
government, more personal
2:41:39
freedoms. There might have been
one a COVID but it makes sense
2:41:44
to know strong law enforcement
strong law on the person and
2:41:47
then I'd like to know what the I
was asked Democrats what it
2:41:51
means to be a Democrat in that
way and I think whatever anybody
2:41:54
would say is boy that what this
what would they say
2:41:59
to this? What's that room you
sit on your city? Sob about
2:42:04
ruining the cities? You know,
the fuck up every city in
2:42:07
America? That's what seems to be
the theme right now. Why is
2:42:12
that? I have no idea. I
2:42:17
Adam Curry: thought that was
dynamite. is funny. You don't
2:42:21
hear Arnold dropped the F bomb.
Of course. He said screw your
2:42:24
freedom. We haven't forgotten
that you don't get a pass. You
2:42:27
don't get a pass because you're
funny here Arnold. But that was
2:42:31
funny. I thought that was pretty
good.
2:42:33
John C Dvorak: I want to give
ourselves some kudos for picking
2:42:38
up on something somebody
accidentally said. And here's
2:42:41
the kudos clip. Second carrier
group is on its way and
2:42:44
Secretary
2:42:45
Unknown: of Defense Lloyd Austin
says the US will send a second
2:42:47
carrier group will west as
Dwight D. Eisenhower to the
2:42:51
eastern Mediterranean to help to
tour the widening of the war
2:42:54
between Israel and Hamas. This
carrier joins the Gerald R Ford
2:42:58
Carrier Strike Group which
arrived earlier this week.
2:43:02
Adam Curry: You know, all the
vets are all worried about was
2:43:04
it the Phoenix that Israel
attacked?
2:43:10
John C Dvorak: Liberty back in
the day? No, it was at Liberty
2:43:12
at Liberty, the USS Liberty that
the Israelis killed a bunch of
2:43:16
American soldiers. They're
covered guys. Yeah.
2:43:19
Adam Curry: The Libya. Yeah.
They're all worried about it.
2:43:22
Like this is not good. This is
very dangerous.
2:43:26
John C Dvorak: Well, they still
don't trust anybody after that
2:43:28
Liberty experience. And that
thing is still been covered up.
2:43:30
It's it's been suppressed to
this day.
2:43:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Well, it's on the wiki but still
2:43:38
kind of not know. Alright, since
we're doing kudos, bow just give
2:43:43
kudos to myself for calling this
one a long time ago.
2:43:46
Unknown: The president is
expected to arrive later this
2:43:48
afternoon. We know among the
topics we'll be discussing is
2:43:52
the Mid Atlantic hydrogen hub,
which the White House expects
2:43:55
we'll bring about 40,000 jobs to
our region. Take a look at this.
2:43:59
Here's what we are expecting.
You know, the President will be
2:44:01
here with the energy secretary.
They're announcing seven
2:44:05
regional clean hydrogen hubs
that were selected to receive $7
2:44:09
billion in funding to accelerate
the domestic market for low cost
2:44:12
clean hydrogen. According to the
White House hydrogen, which is a
2:44:16
clean fuel helps the US reduce
emissions while creating jobs
2:44:20
and building healthier
communities. Now we know that
2:44:23
mid atlantic hub will be in
Pennsylvania, New Jersey and
2:44:26
Delaware again, creating 1000s
of jobs. We will have the latest
2:44:30
on that announcement when it
happens.
2:44:32
Adam Curry: Clean Energy clean
hydrogen. This scam is here now.
2:44:38
Clean hydrogen $7 billion
2:44:44
John C Dvorak: for good news
story. I didn't know this was
2:44:45
happening. You know they're
throwing money at this 7
2:44:48
Adam Curry: billion. Yeah,
that's a lot. $7 billion for
2:44:52
clean hydrogen. Crazy. All
right. I promised the story
2:44:56
about Wisconsin.
2:44:57
Unknown: Now is time for our
friends now. was initiated.
2:45:02
Adam Curry: Yes, trans Maoism
continues just because there's
2:45:05
that we do have a war and it's
covering up a lot and but we
2:45:09
still will stay on the stories
that matter. This is a video
2:45:14
that is from Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation kids
2:45:17
news, CBC kids news. Kids do
kid's news and it is being used
2:45:23
in Wisconsin schools for fourth
graders. It is animated kind of
2:45:27
like, no agenda animated, no
agenda, that style a little,
2:45:32
little more purposeful. Both
kids are brown. The mom looks
2:45:37
Asian, the dad looks Mexican or
Latin X. The baby in the story
2:45:44
is white. So it's a very, it's a
very polarizing visuals. And we
2:45:49
can stop it anytime you want.
But I think it's worth listening
2:45:52
to the entire thing again, this
is for children's CBC kids news.
2:45:56
You can find it right there on
YouTube. They broadcast it on
2:45:58
television, and now in Wisconsin
schools for fourth graders.
2:46:05
Unknown: Oh,
2:46:07
Hi, baby. Are you a boy or girl?
Funny you should ask Syd. One of
2:46:12
the first things they check when
a new baby is born is what kind
2:46:16
of body parts they have. They do
that to determine a baby sex.
2:46:20
Most of the time, it's easy to
determine. And sometimes it's
2:46:24
more complicated. This one has a
penis. Boy, this one has a
2:46:29
vulva. It's girls.
2:46:31
Adam Curry: I gotta stop it
right there. Why do they use
2:46:34
vulva instead of vagina? What is
the reasoning behind that?
2:46:39
John C Dvorak: Well that now
that you stopped it because I
2:46:41
would have said well I'm gonna
dumb thing to say. I have to.
2:46:46
I'm glad you stopped it because
now we have to discuss this.
2:46:49
Yes. Here's the reason there's
these things are not done
2:46:52
without
2:46:53
Adam Curry: cola troll room. Not
Volvo, Volvo Volvo I love being
2:47:03
childish. 15 forever, right? But
why? Why? Why? Why?
2:47:09
John C Dvorak: The vulva is the
global term that describes all
2:47:13
of the structures that make the
female external genitalia. The
2:47:17
components of the vulva, or the
mons pubis, labia majora, labia,
2:47:23
minerale, clitoris, okay, this
bigger vulva, Deborah, blah,
2:47:28
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, whole bunch of
2:47:30
stuff and the and the vaginal
opening. So this is a new one
2:47:35
that they're trying to push.
2:47:36
Adam Curry: It's only the
external stuff. It's only the
2:47:39
stuff you can see on the outside
what it
2:47:41
John C Dvorak: says.
Interesting. Yeah, just the
2:47:43
external.
2:47:44
Unknown: It's more complicated.
This one has a penis. Boy, this
2:47:49
one has a MOBA girl.
Congratulations. Oh, let's hit
2:47:55
the brakes. People. The way your
body looks on the outside is
2:47:59
only part of the story. One,
stay with me gang. This is
2:48:05
important. I live. Your six
refers to your physical body
2:48:10
parts, remember, but there is
also something called Gender,
2:48:13
which is how you feel inside
your body and who you know
2:48:16
yourself to be and your gender.
How you feel on the inside.
2:48:21
doesn't always match the sex you
recalled when you were born.
2:48:25
Okay, let's say you were born
with a penis and you feel like a
2:48:28
boy inside. In that case, your
sex and your gender match? Well,
2:48:32
what if you were born with a
penis? And you know your girl
2:48:35
inside? It's not a boy, then
your sex and your gender don't
2:48:38
match? Wait, what's those know
your girl inside mean anyway?
2:48:42
Does that mean you have to love
pink things and princesses?
2:48:45
Nope. Sometimes people refer to
things as girl things and boy
2:48:49
things but this is just how
people sometimes classify
2:48:52
things, usually to make it
easier to sell stuff to kids and
2:48:55
their parents.
2:48:56
Adam Curry: So so the reason why
we call boys boys and girls
2:49:02
Girls is for people to ease make
it easier to sell stuff. That's
2:49:09
an interesting take.
2:49:12
John C Dvorak: It's just how
does that work in a communist
2:49:15
country? Or, or tribal
organization where this was
2:49:18
capitalism doesn't apply if
there's no capital. So are they
2:49:21
saying that? I'm just guessing
here? Are they saying that? It
2:49:27
this is the problem? Capitalism
is causing this issue? Because
2:49:30
if there was no capitalism, you
wouldn't have this? Yeah. Then
2:49:32
then we wouldn't have confusion
if there's no capitalism.
2:49:35
Correct. I don't see where
that's going.
2:49:39
Unknown: Close toys and games
are for everyone. You don't have
2:49:42
to be a boy or a girl to like a
certain thing. Said, has anyone
2:49:47
ever told you that you shouldn't
say with something or wear
2:49:49
something because you're a boy
will? Yes. The body parts you
2:49:54
were born with don't always
dictate who you are, how you
2:49:58
feel or what you like to play
with. That's such a relief
2:50:03
gender, how you feel? tells you
who you are. And there are a
2:50:09
whole bunch of possibilities.
Figuring out what feels right
2:50:13
for you is just part of growing
up. Fine little cutie. You might
2:50:20
want to change that diaper
sooner than later.
2:50:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go.
Hello, Canada. Good work. Good
2:50:29
work up there. And of course
that that results and leads to
2:50:34
new stories like this to Italy
2:50:36
Unknown: now where a whole bunch
of transgender men are entering
2:50:40
the miss Italy pageant after a
pageant rep said transgender
2:50:44
women can't compete. Alright,
let me lay this out for you.
2:50:47
Here. It's a little complicated.
The organizer of the miss Italy
2:50:50
pageant said the pageant only
allows people who were assigned
2:50:54
a female gender at birth to be
in the competition, meaning
2:50:58
transgender women, men who
became women would be excluded.
2:51:02
One transgender man named
Frederico saw this and thought,
2:51:06
Well, hey, I was born female. So
he decided to enter the pageant
2:51:11
under his birth name Frederica,
even though he identifies as a
2:51:14
man now, that moment, then
turned into a movement. One
2:51:17
LGBTQ group shared his entry on
Facebook, encouraging other
2:51:21
transgender men to apply. And
now more than 100 trans men have
2:51:26
entered the pageant, with some
even being called to the next
2:51:29
stage of the competition.
2:51:32
Adam Curry: Jesus come quickly,
this world what I find
2:51:39
fascinating is that no point
does anyone state the obvious
2:51:43
that the whole idea of beauty
contests is is crazy. No, no,
2:51:50
they don't see they don't see
that.
2:51:52
John C Dvorak: Well, that used
to be the thing. Yeah, they use
2:51:54
all your beauty competitions.
And I mean, I'm sure you
2:51:57
remember, like 25 years ago? I
sure do. Let's say everyone's
2:52:02
bitching and moaning about
beauty contest. And we used to
2:52:04
do a review of all of them on
this show me you know, recently.
2:52:07
Oh, yes. Yeah. Real. Yeah, we
stopped doing it. Yeah. And the
2:52:11
main complaints, objectified
women and a lot of out of out of
2:52:16
a bag. And then that died down
for some unknown reason. Now we
2:52:21
got this. Yeah.
2:52:23
Adam Curry: It's, the whole
thing is sad. Alright, I have a
2:52:28
John C Dvorak: two parter. It
says you're on the transgender
2:52:30
thing that's played by visiting
me dragging along this tick tock
2:52:34
clip is called tock tock tick,
tock. transphobia, you have to
2:52:42
look it up from the last couple
of shows. Oh, hold
2:52:44
Adam Curry: on. Talk, yes, I got
it.
2:52:49
Unknown: If you are told that
something you're doing is
2:52:51
transphobic. It is not your job
to try to prove that it's not,
2:52:55
you are going to mess up. It is
guaranteed. If you are told
2:52:59
information and you immediately
reject and go, nope, that
2:53:01
doesn't fit my view of what
transmits means you're not going
2:53:05
to be able to show up as an
ally, because all you're worried
2:53:07
about is what you think and you
feel abundant experience that's
2:53:11
not yours, it's going to be
uncomfortable, it's going to be
2:53:13
confusing. And it's going to
mean that you are going to have
2:53:16
to evaluate how gender is seeped
into society, how it has
2:53:20
affected and shaped your life,
how sis heteronormativity has
2:53:23
affected your life. And just
because we're existing in front
2:53:26
of you does not mean that you
get to ask or say whatever you
2:53:28
want. And that's supposed to be
taken as a compliment. Questions
2:53:31
can be transphobic, compliments
can be transphobic. And so
2:53:35
that's where it comes in, where
a lot of the work with being an
2:53:39
ally, actually has to do with
our own individual reflections
2:53:43
on how transphobic society has
shaped the way that we think and
2:53:47
live and treat people. We don't
need allies who are trying to
2:53:50
prove how good they are or who
were asking for a pat on the
2:53:53
back or who are trying to seem
nice, or who are worried about
2:53:56
what they look like. We need
allies who are willing to stand
2:54:00
up for trans people and learn
how to do that the
2:54:03
best that they can.
2:54:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, by shutting
up.
2:54:07
Adam Curry: You know, I gotta
mention this. Do you remember
2:54:11
the podcast conference that I
went to Podcast Movement? And I
2:54:15
do and they wanted? They wanted
me on a panel. I said Who else?
2:54:17
Oh, it's this one, this one. And
but you know, we can't have just
2:54:22
all white guys on the panel. So
we invited this woman who knows
2:54:25
nothing about the topic because
she's bipoc and that woman
2:54:29
because she's American
descendants, but they didn't
2:54:32
know anything about the topic.
And if they're not appropriate
2:54:36
for this topic here, we can't
have four white guys on the
2:54:38
panel. I said, Well, you know
what, you can have three because
2:54:40
I'm out. I'm not a part of this.
So those very same guys, one of
2:54:45
them had, like a a, like a mini
podcast conference, sold tickets
2:54:55
to it. It was in in Europe and
Um, they got canceled. I mean,
2:55:02
they the events still went on
but some black lesbians, who, as
2:55:07
it was described to me started
calling up speakers they had
2:55:10
contracted and saying, there's
no there's not enough black
2:55:13
people on this stage, not enough
LGBTQ, you shouldn't go there.
2:55:18
And these were people who work
for companies guess what, about
2:55:21
10% had to cancel. So the very
people who are trying to protect
2:55:27
the, you know, the, the
sensitivities of LGBTQ bipod
2:55:34
people were now being cancelled
by those very same people.
2:55:37
They're great. What this what
they never understand. It's like
2:55:41
it's going to be used against
you. So you might as well take a
2:55:45
stand now, because it's going to
come back to bite you in the ass
2:55:49
eventually. My final two Mom, I
have a funny one. But on my
2:55:54
final two clips are COVID.
Related, specifically,
2:56:00
vaccination, adverse events. Dr.
Drew, who I we've played Dr.
2:56:07
Drew throughout the COVID
period, the COVID years. I think
2:56:11
we both trust him. He's not
always been in line with our
2:56:14
thinking we still have always
played his his opinions because
2:56:17
he is a doctor. Well, boy, he
had there's a new study out that
2:56:20
he read and he's kind of upset
about it
2:56:22
Unknown: because the article
came out this week in
2:56:24
circulation, which is a very
fine high end. A cardiology
2:56:28
journal is called circulation.
I've been throwing I've been
2:56:30
sending it around to people. And
it showed it took my breath
2:56:34
away. I was I was shocked at how
how what an indictment it was.
2:56:38
It showed that myocarditis was
not that common and not that
2:56:41
uncommon in young males.
Certainly more common than
2:56:45
severe COVID in that group,
okay? So myocarditis more common
2:56:50
than severe COVID. So you're
putting people at risk and
2:56:53
taking away little problems,
okay? All right, the and then
2:56:58
you've heard all this it just
myocarditis, as you might use it
2:57:01
for itself limited somebody
myocarditis throughout my career
2:57:04
as a medical emergency. And now
this article showed for the
2:57:09
first time that about half of
the kids, these are adolescent
2:57:12
males who got myocarditis are
going to have lifelong cardiac
2:57:18
dysfunction, which means a
significant percentage are going
2:57:22
to end up in heart failure,
hopefully at an advanced age,
2:57:25
but if not, on the transplant
list.
2:57:28
Adam Curry: So this comes the
very same week that the Nobel
2:57:32
Prize for let me see what the
actual title is. Physiology and
2:57:38
Medicine is given to the
inventors of mRNA. Yeah. And so
2:57:45
there's a Chinese journalist at
this, this little event, asks a
2:57:49
question about long term effects
of mRNA. I'm going to tell you
2:57:51
what she said, because she's a
little difficult to hear, then
2:57:54
we will hear the answer from the
first scientists receiving this
2:57:58
Nobel Prize. And then the second
one
2:58:01
Unknown: was AC sizing media
from China, and waste the mRNA.
2:58:06
We don't know the long term
effect yet. So do we have any
2:58:10
concern over that?
2:58:14
Record? Would you like to
respond to that question?
2:58:21
Yes, of course, you know, mRNA
vaccines have only been given
2:58:25
for a certain amount of time,
which begs the question, having
2:58:28
said that, of course, the mRNA
vaccine that is given is very
2:58:32
transient, and the fact that 13
billion people have gotten the
2:58:36
virus, vaccine virus. And oops,
I mean, the the amount of side
2:58:42
effects noted today, it is
extremely limited. So I don't
2:58:47
think it's a it's a major
concern.
2:58:49
Adam Curry: So first, this guy
gaffes, it says, Oh, 13 billion
2:58:52
people have been known. What do
you say he's having with him
2:58:55
crazy amounts have been given. I
mean, given the virus, I mean,
2:58:58
virus, I mean, the vaccine,
let's ask the other guy. And
2:59:02
when asked to that, or that's
fine. Oh, yes. I think that's
2:59:07
yeah, say so.
2:59:08
Unknown: Well, it can't be
integrated into the nucleus into
2:59:12
the net. And that's, you know, a
safety precaution. The adverse
2:59:17
effects, that's been noted is
mostly mild. My court it is
2:59:24
apparent myocarditis, mainly
affecting young males. But that
2:59:31
normally resolves without any
short term effects.
2:59:36
Adam Curry: Oh. So these guys
are getting a Nobel Peace Prize
2:59:40
while the tonale a Nobel Prize.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
2:59:47
Thank you for correcting me. The
outrage is still there. They're
2:59:50
getting a Nobel Prize for this
technology and they sit there
2:59:54
stone cold face and as just
limited. It resolves itself well
3:00:00
The top publication says this is
horrible. And Dr. Drew says this
3:00:05
is you're going to be in the
transplant list. What is wrong
3:00:10
with the world?
3:00:13
John C Dvorak: But there seems
to be a disconnect between
3:00:17
something and something. And I
think one of those symptoms is
3:00:20
money.
3:00:22
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah.
Unfortunately for the love of
3:00:25
money is the root of all evil
does seem to hold true. Unless
3:00:31
you've got something,
3:00:32
John C Dvorak: let me take one
quick look and see if there's
3:00:34
anything that's is I got one
kind of an odd ball clip, which
3:00:38
maybe is worth playing. Gotta
military gotta synced Biden,
3:00:43
succinct comments on NPR is
always a good way to go out. And
3:00:49
then I have a weird Mexican
education deal, which is like
3:00:51
what
3:00:52
Adam Curry: what? Well, you tell
me which one you want.
3:00:56
John C Dvorak: I would say this
play the weird Mexican
3:00:59
educational deal. And you tell
me what's going on here.
3:01:02
Unknown: under a new law low
income mesco Mexican residents
3:01:05
living near the California
border can now go to some state
3:01:08
community colleges at in state
tuition levels. The law creates
3:01:13
a pilot program for some
Mexicans who want to attend
3:01:15
certain community colleges in
Southern California and we'll
3:01:18
run through 2029. The law is
designed to help low income
3:01:21
Mexicans who live within 45
miles of the California border
3:01:25
to get an education and prepare
for jobs. Under the new program
3:01:29
students would pay $46 A unit in
state as opposed to $307 a unit
3:01:34
out of state. That's according
to a legislative analysis.
3:01:37
Similar tuition programs are
available at least 24 states
3:01:40
including Texas, Arizona, and
New Mexico.
3:01:44
John C Dvorak: Due to literally
Mexicans, New Mexico.
3:01:50
Adam Curry: I don't know what's
going on. And meanwhile, do you
3:01:54
know what the most emailed clip
is that I've received this week?
3:01:57
Can you even it's 12 I don't
want to get 12 seconds of it.
3:02:00
It's a little longer but can you
just imagine what people are
3:02:03
asking me as an audio expert?
3:02:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, they're
asking you this AI are asking if
3:02:09
it's to be edited. Yep.
3:02:11
Adam Curry: And it's the same
clip. Do dude, listen to this?
3:02:16
Did AOC fart on camera
3:02:19
Unknown: and to ensure that
horrors do not happen in the
3:02:23
names of victims who do not want
their tragedy used to justify
3:02:29
further violence and injustice?
3:02:32
Adam Curry: Wow, she farted on
camera. This is the number one
3:02:36
email clip
3:02:37
John C Dvorak: guess what
everyone cares about
3:02:40
Adam Curry: them this is why
we're never going to be rich.
3:02:45
Ever, ever, ever ever. All
right. We got a little bit of
3:02:50
Iran stuffs ended up with we got
Billy Bones Billy Bones with a
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we got here we got some C is
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Donald Winkler as the other one.
And the classic classic that you
3:03:09
heard earlier in the show. If
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then everybody adios mofos such
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Unknown: we need to kill them we
need to kill them bomb them bomb
3:04:13
them bomb them and bomb them
again
3:04:36
we need to kill them we need to
kill them bomb then bomb them
3:04:47
and bomb them again a bomb them
again a bomb the bomb them and
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bomb them again a bomb them
again. plomin
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them bomb them again. on them
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again we need to kill them off
them again on them again we need
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to kill them and bomb them
again.
3:05:36
Thank you so much for being here
and please be safe
3:05:38
John C Dvorak: this is the stay
safe medley one of the I think
3:05:41
MSNBC host and this is what she
does.
3:05:44
Unknown: Thank you so much for
being here tonight. And please
3:05:46
stay safe
3:05:47
John C Dvorak: because it was
just a matter of course and
3:05:49
again I'm reminded of people's
reminding people to
3:05:51
Unknown: Colorado Secretary of
State Jennifer as well thank you
3:05:54
so much for being here tonight.
Please
3:05:56
John C Dvorak: think of miles
Gibbler
3:06:01
Unknown: NBC News correspondent
Thompson thank you so much for
3:06:04
being here tonight. And please
stay safe. Stay safe and
3:06:09
journalists out there. Thank you
so much for your time tonight.
3:06:12
Please stay safe. HMS was
Timothy O'Brien thank you so
3:06:16
much for being here tonight.
Please to save
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John C Dvorak: life secret.
Representative Jeremy Gray. I
3:06:23
want to thank you for your time
tonight. And please stay safe
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file handler Hitler enough John,
stay safe. Child Hitler. Hitler
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and please
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Adam Curry: stay safe.
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John C Dvorak: Kyle Hitler
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Unknown: bomb bomb bomb bom bom
bom Iran. Bom bom, bom
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bom Mofo vorak.org/in. a
dystopian nightmare.