0:00
John C Dvorak: doughnuts are
tasty. Adam curry, John C.
0:03
Devorah
0:04
Adam Curry: 2620 23 This is your
award winning keep our nation
0:07
media assassination episode 1600
0:10
Unknown: This is no agenda
celebrating 16
0:14
Adam Curry: years of
broadcasting live from the heart
0:17
of the Texas no country FEMA
Region number six in the
0:20
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
0:22
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where we all
0:25
agree that dental flossers are
our worst plague then those
0:29
plastic grocery bags. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
0:37
Adam Curry: The hour really we
all agree on that. I don't know
0:39
if we agree.
0:40
John C Dvorak: He's still a
dental floss. There's these
0:41
little bitty things. Well, yeah,
0:42
Adam Curry: the little holders
little dental floss little
0:44
holder.
0:45
John C Dvorak: Yes. A little got
a little piece of floss and a
0:47
pink.
0:48
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah, I know
what that is.
0:50
John C Dvorak: All over the
place. Garbage. Yeah, they're
0:53
Adam Curry: nasty. They're not
good for you either. No, no, no,
0:58
no. Hey, I'm a I'm a tooth
professional. And as you can
1:02
tell us our 16th anniversary.
And for our 16th anniversary, I
1:07
have all my new teeth. They're
done. All I want for my 16th
1:13
anniversary is all my teeth.
They're done. They're done.
1:16
John C Dvorak: Okay, they're all
in this is go down real hard.
1:19
Adam Curry: You know, I can
strip three phase wire with
1:21
these puppies. Careful now.
Three phase. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:26
Lit, even connect coat collapse.
Maybe
1:29
John C Dvorak: collect a wax. I
1:30
Adam Curry: could do anything.
Oh, yeah. You want me to strip
1:33
some coax at the? Weirdly I'm
not allowed to open bottle tops.
1:36
But everything else is okay.
I've which I find disappointing.
1:41
John C Dvorak: I get open bottle
tops with your teeth. No, no
1:45
with a screw up. Or a bottle
opener. That does help. I can
1:50
open bottle
1:50
Adam Curry: tops. Happy 16th
anniversary, John
1:53
John C Dvorak: happy 16th
anniversary to you, the crew and
1:57
everybody that who listens to
the no agenda show and
1:59
especially the ones who have
been listening for a long time.
2:02
And there's just few left as
some laggards that had been
2:05
listening since episode one
still alive.
2:09
Adam Curry: Still alive. Thank
you to all the producers of
2:11
Gitmo nation who have allowed us
to do this for 16 years. And
2:14
there's nothing nicer really
than celebrating an anniversary
2:18
with war, death and destruction
is great.
2:22
John C Dvorak: They helped us
out with a little extra
2:25
dimensionality here by having a
an event
2:29
Adam Curry: in Maine. And I
2:31
John C Dvorak: have a I have an
interesting clip, which is
2:33
borderline ask Adam, about an
event in Maine and this was
2:38
taken from last night. They've
changed this they went on and on
2:43
last night about oh, you know
you can't but in fact, I didn't
2:46
clip any of this stuff this
morning. But they go on and on
2:49
about oh yeah, whatever they
tell you at the beginning of
2:51
this reports is bogus and the
numbers will be wrong and
2:55
they're gonna get they're gonna
change the numbers because
2:57
nothing's ever right at the
beginning of the year. What kind
3:00
of reporting is this? Why are
you making excuses in advance of
3:04
everything? But, but there's
something else that was more
3:07
interesting to me and this is
the T G. This is trace Gallagher
3:13
and it's not about the shooter
so much. This isn't
3:16
Adam Curry: tracing Los Angeles.
It doesn't need to entertainment
3:19
Hollywood stuff these days or is
he
3:21
John C Dvorak: No, no, he's
brilliant. He's in Jerusalem.
3:24
But listen to Jerusalem. I want
you to listen to this TG shooter
3:29
foxes is trace Gallagher last
night
3:32
Unknown: we are still covering
breaking news. I'm Trace
3:33
Gallagher we are live in
Jerusalem covering the war in
3:37
Israel. We will continue to
cover the war on Israel. But if
3:40
you're just joining us for our
regular time here on Fox News at
3:43
night, you're looking at a live
picture of Lewiston, Maine,
3:47
there is significant breaking
news. In the United States night
3:51
there has been a mass shooting
in Lewiston, Maine, which is a
3:55
city about 26 Take that 36 miles
from Portland, Maine in the
4:01
Northeast. Somebody earlier this
evening about an hour and 40
4:05
minutes ago walked into either a
bowling alley first or a
4:09
restaurant pool hall first and
open fire. They walked into
4:13
these two locations one after
the other. And now police are
4:16
telling us police are telling us
that 22 People are confirmed to
4:21
have been shot and killed.
Another 30 are wounded. Many
4:25
have been taken to a level two
Trauma Center Central Maine
4:30
Hospital in Lewiston, Maine, the
hospital is overrun. And there
4:34
are people at the hospital who
sent who put put public social
4:39
media notes on Twitter saying
that the security guards of the
4:43
hospital were telling people
inside the hospital to squat
4:46
down because there was some
thought that the shooter might
4:49
be coming back to get those who
were wounded because he didn't
4:52
kill them the first time around.
We have nothing else from the
4:56
hospital so maybe that threat is
gone. Good. We want to get to
5:04
David spen for an update on the
scanner traffic that he's
5:08
hearing. Dave, of course, also
has connections with the federal
5:10
government law enforcement
connections there. David, what
5:13
do you know? Well,
5:14
John C Dvorak: I'm talking to
several sources tonight. And we
5:16
know that they are certain of
this person's name. However,
5:21
they're not announcing the
person's name, at least not yet.
5:27
Adam Curry: All right, I'm
ready. I'm bored.
5:29
John C Dvorak: What was really
peculiar about that report?
5:33
Well, it's
5:33
Adam Curry: sped up in the
middle. That was very odd. Well,
5:36
understand. Well knew was the
guy would come back
5:41
John C Dvorak: and No, no, no,
not about the report itself. But
5:43
about the presentation. I'm not
going to labor. Please don't.
5:48
Where is the latency?
5:52
Adam Curry: There's latency.
What do you
5:55
John C Dvorak: mean guys in
Jerusalem? The other ones in the
5:58
studio in New York? How
5:59
Adam Curry: are you know,
there's a good that's a good
6:01
point. They all have latency
these days. You're right. And
6:04
that you got to see him nodding
and holding their finger in the
6:07
air. Yes, indeed. You know, five
seconds later. Yeah, there was
6:10
no latency there. That's
interesting.
6:12
John C Dvorak: here's the here's
I have to throw back, which is
6:15
the throw back to what Gallagher
which follows up listen to the
6:18
latency to the local police
officers on the scene that are
6:22
going through this nightmare
right now. Trace?
6:24
Unknown: Yeah. And it's very
good advice, David, because the
6:26
numbers always do.
6:29
John C Dvorak: Well, okay.
Latency is very ridiculous is I
6:34
think defying the rules of
physics. They're not running
6:37
there have to be running this
over satellite. I don't think
6:40
trace Gallagher is in Jerusalem.
6:43
Adam Curry: You think he's green
screening it in?
6:46
John C Dvorak: And I'll tell you
why. Within 15 minutes, his
6:49
background goes from pitch black
daylight. On the same report,
6:56
two minutes later, he didn't get
they go their pitch black as
7:00
he's talking to this guy. And
then they go to a bunch of
7:02
reporting. And then I checked
the time codes 15 minutes later
7:07
traces back and his and his
daylight. Now, it was around the
7:12
time of the sunrise. I did the
time checks. Believe me. I got I
7:17
was so worried about. Yes, I can
tell. And so I checked a time
7:20
because it is a possibility that
that the sun came up during the
7:25
report. But it was pretty bright
out. I think. And CNN has been
7:30
caught doing this in the past.
It's
7:33
Adam Curry: what they do.
They're the kings of it. They've
7:35
been doing it since green screen
was blue screen. Yes.
7:40
John C Dvorak: If I can remember
that few of us remember this? I
7:45
think he I think he's green
screening this and I think I
7:48
don't think he's in Jerusalem at
all. And that's a good point.
7:50
Because first of all, he goes to
other people. He's got people in
7:53
podcast and everything and
they're all the tightness
7:56
between there is no latency
whatsoever.
7:59
Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
most of the journalists are in
8:02
Tel Aviv. I don't think I
haven't seen that many in
8:05
Jerusalem. Maybe I'm mistaken on
that. I mean, it's it's just
8:08
been such an onslaught. But he's
usually in Los Angeles and he is
8:12
not the kind of guy that they
would I mean, Erin Burnett,
8:15
okay. They sent her to Tel Aviv,
I believe. Yeah, and they forgot
8:19
he forgot to send her hair and
makeup person
8:24
John C Dvorak: as you would
notice, yeah,
8:25
Adam Curry: I wouldn't notice or
wardrobe for that matter. Yeah.
8:30
Oh, that's very possible. I
mean, why not? It's a good war.
8:33
You know, it's it's, um,
flooded, flooded with clips. But
8:39
let's just stick with this. This
main shooter for a moment. Okay.
8:43
John C Dvorak: First of all, let
me do the update of the numbers
8:46
he gave which Wait,
8:47
Adam Curry: before we do that.
Let me do the first report
8:49
breaking news from last night
Chris Hayes because it's also a
8:53
little different.
8:54
Unknown: Okay. We have some
breaking news to report we are
8:56
following reports of multiple
active shootings in Lewiston,
9:00
Maine, multiple lines of
shooting. We have not yet have
9:03
any verified reports of the
numbers of casualties. It is our
9:06
understanding the situation is
very serious. The Maine State
9:09
Police is publicly warning
residents in Lewiston, Maine to
9:13
shelter in place, following what
appears to be shootings in at
9:16
least two locations, a
recreation center and a bar and
9:21
grill. A local sheriff's office
released these images of a
9:25
person they say is a suspect.
And they've encouraged local
9:28
businesses to lock down.
9:31
Adam Curry: So they've got this
one picture they show over and
9:33
over again. It's multiple active
shootings and it's a recreation
9:36
center. I don't know if a
bowling alley qualifies. I
9:40
John C Dvorak: think the name of
it was a recreation center Okay.
9:44
Adam Curry: A couple things
right off the bat one perfect to
9:49
jolt everybody you know we are
just getting a little bit tired
9:52
of of all the Hamas Israel war
stuff. I think that's taken too
9:57
long and taken we need more If
there wasn't enough action, oh,
10:01
yeah, please fire up your
emails. I know we're horrible
10:04
people for laughing about it.
But imagine the coincidence that
10:09
our vice president Kamala
Harris, on the 24th. So that's
10:13
the day before yesterday, the
day before the shooting, posted
10:17
a big sign here on on x.
Congress must pass an assault
10:22
weapons ban, President Joe Biden
will sign it.
10:27
John C Dvorak: You know what
she's given the go ahead to make
10:30
this post. And she did it two
days early. She meant she forgot
10:34
to note. She didn't look at the
date.
10:38
Adam Curry: Do they have any
boots on the ground at this
10:40
point? They have anyone in my
suit that both my parents are
10:44
dead? Because they went to Bates
College, which is right there.
10:48
They could have given me some
color.
10:50
John C Dvorak: Do we have any
boots on the ground? You're
10:52
asking? No. I
10:52
Adam Curry: mean, our do we have
real reports coming in? Do we
10:56
have reports? Yeah, hospital? I
mean, yeah, we do. Okay,
11:00
John C Dvorak: they got tons. I
was watching a lot of the
11:02
coverage today that the current
numbers by the way, they've
11:05
changed the dead. I don't know
how this happens. But the was
11:08
20. But now there's 18 dead
11:11
Adam Curry: weight, we went from
16 to 20 to 18. It went from
11:15
John C Dvorak: it was 22 as the
maximum is down to 18, dead
11:18
confirmed and 13 injured down
from 30 or something like that.
11:23
So that changed all the numbers
that 3013 Sounds kind of the
11:27
same. Somebody could have just
misheard. But they've got and
11:32
the guide now has seemingly has
ditched his car somewhere there
11:36
they found a car and some other
town and he's gone for in the
11:41
wind.
11:42
Adam Curry: So what I've heard
is firearms expert military was
11:49
hearing voices. That's always
very annoying.
11:54
John C Dvorak: Keep going up for
two weeks. I got most of the if
11:59
Adam Curry: they knew all about
it right is once again law
12:01
enforcement in two weeks just
12:03
John C Dvorak: came out this
morning, I think this morning
12:05
last night. They didn't know
quite as much because they were
12:09
starting to go through the
12:10
Adam Curry: hearing voices thing
that's like the Naval Yard
12:12
shooter this that this, that's
always a bad one. And I love
12:16
people like I can't wait for
your deconstruction of this
12:18
tomorrow morning. It's like
well, we don't we really don't
12:22
have much going on other than
it's all these telltale signs
12:26
always but before well, before
you go into it. This is this was
12:31
odd to me. They have a mom and a
daughter. I think the daughter
12:36
is 10 or 11. And they were in
the bowling alley. But man, they
12:41
are calm on this report. And I
12:43
Unknown: turned around I saw the
shooter right like behind me and
12:48
just come in the door. I don't
know if that was just a warning
12:51
shot or if he actually shot
somebody with that one. But we
12:57
between the lanes, there's some
swinging doors like where they
13:03
keep all the mechanical stuff
out back. So we kind of all just
13:07
ran that way we barricaded in
there and another parent was in
13:12
the room with me she had a phone
she called 911.
13:16
So his leg grazed by a bullet.
The young girl now unable to
13:20
comprehend the horrific crime
scene she witnessed.
13:23
She's like shocked and I get
something that you think would
13:27
never happen. I never thought
I'd grow up and get a bullet in
13:32
my leg. Why Why would people do
this? I was more worried about
13:37
like, am I gonna live and I
gotta make it out of here.
13:43
Knowing
13:44
John C Dvorak: annoying,
annoying, go to rehearsals.
13:47
Adam Curry: I will maybe they
maybe they weren't. Yeah, that's
13:50
a good show title though.
Rehearsal
13:52
John C Dvorak: rehearsal. Well,
I was listening to FDA in two
13:58
different groups of Fox people
this morning and their their
14:02
discussion tended to move toward
the discussion of mental health.
14:08
And specifically, and not just
buy one or two people buy
14:13
everybody red flag laws and why
they're important. Okay, let me
14:18
see. I think that this is what
we're looking at here.
14:22
Adam Curry: Mental Health. Yes.
Well, we have we had we had
14:25
another red
14:26
John C Dvorak: flag in this
particular which is the law that
14:29
says if they don't
14:30
Adam Curry: have red flag laws
in Maine, though, right?
14:32
John C Dvorak: They have what's
called this they have what's
14:37
called a yellow flag.
14:38
Adam Curry: Oh, no, get out of
here.
14:41
John C Dvorak: This was done by
the black woman on Fox. She had
14:44
a whole rundown of it. And she's
I can't remember her name. She's
14:48
the she's kind of she's the one
who looks kind of Caribbean very
14:54
attractive, and stately that
one? She said no, they had The
15:00
Yellow Flag laws in Maine and
the Yellow Flag laws means that
15:04
you can only go so far with
you're turning people into the
15:08
cops and vague to me. I have to.
I can bring that clip for the
15:13
Sunday but it was about I think
there's going to be a major push
15:19
because they can't get gun
control and they took the kind
15:22
of off the table in the
discussion. It's really about
15:25
these red flag laws and I think
just a step toward gun control.
15:30
Adam Curry: While there was
another mental health event
15:32
could have been I would say that
this for whatever we know this,
15:37
this shooter had a mental health
issue. I mean, if you're hearing
15:41
voices burn, it's either some
technology or it's mental
15:46
health. Or both, then I don't
know much about the shooter, but
15:50
I do know a thing or two about
aviation. I've got some buddies
15:53
in the business and this was the
story that caught my attention.
15:56
Of course.
15:57
Unknown: Tonight the FBI is
investigating after an off duty
16:00
pilot allegedly tried to crash a
passenger plane, Alaska Airlines
16:04
flight 2059 left Everett
Washington, bound for San
16:07
Francisco at 5:23pm. Sunday,
packed full with 80 passengers,
16:13
including multiple infants on
laps and 44 year old Joseph
16:17
Emerson, an off duty pilot with
Alaska Airlines, who was
16:20
hitching a ride seated in a jump
seat inside the cockpit. Soon
16:24
after takeoff, he allegedly
tried to cut the plane's engines
16:28
by pulling the fire extinguisher
handles on the engines called a
16:32
T handle
16:33
the T handle which is what this
individual tried to pull on each
16:36
engine actually turns the engine
off and prepares it for a fire
16:39
extinguisher. The problem is at
high altitude you can get the
16:42
engines restarted at low
altitude. That could be a fatal
16:45
result.
16:46
The crew able to overpower
Emerson and get him out of that
16:49
cockpit handcuffing him to a
seat in the rear of the cabin.
16:53
We've got the guy that tried to
step into the cockpit.
17:02
I was panicked. I was alone in
the back. And, you know everyone
17:07
was shifting around trying to
figure out what was happening.
17:11
The pilots diverting to Portland
where Emerson was taken into
17:14
custody
17:15
after we did land and the
gentleman was escorted off the
17:18
flight attendant got back on the
speaker and said plain and
17:22
simple. He had a mental
breakdown. So
17:25
the airline and the FAA say the
incident is not related to
17:29
current events.
17:32
Adam Curry: Okay, not related to
current events.
17:33
John C Dvorak: Well, I have to
play my two clips because they
17:38
left out the mushrooms.
17:39
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
going to talk about. That's if
17:42
you have the mushroom clip
because I have some information
17:44
on the mushroom so give me your
mushroom clip.
17:47
John C Dvorak: Okay, this
mushroom drugged pilot story
17:50
Adam Curry: seems obvious.
17:51
Unknown: An airline pilot is now
in court He's accused of trying
17:55
to cut a plane's engines midair
while off duty new court
17:59
document show he told police he
had recently taken psychedelic
18:02
mushrooms. As his mental health
worsened. Here's entities Eileen
18:06
ng with more.
18:08
State prosecutors in Oregon
filed 83 counts of attempted
18:11
murder against 44 year old
Alaska Airlines pilot Joseph
18:16
David Emerson on Tuesday. His
attorney has entered not guilty
18:19
pleas on his behalf federal
prosecutors charged Emerson with
18:23
interfering with the flight
crew.
18:25
Adam Curry: This is an AI voice
Don't you think? Is this a real
18:28
person doing this read
18:31
John C Dvorak: I think is a real
person. They have stiff readers
18:34
there. NTD
18:36
Unknown: charge can carry up to
20 years in prison Court
18:39
documents show Emerson told
police he had been struggling
18:43
with depression after a friend
recently died. He said he took
18:46
psychedelic mushrooms about 48
hours before he attempted to cut
18:50
the engines. He also said he had
not slept in more than 40 hours.
18:55
Neither the gate agents nor
flight crew noticed any signs of
18:59
impairment that may have barred
him from the flight and FBI
19:02
agent wrote in a probable cause
affidavit in support of the
19:06
federal charge that Emerson said
it was his first time taking
19:09
mushrooms. One of his neighbors
in Pleasant Hill California
19:13
finds it hard to believe that a
family oriented gentleman would
19:17
do such a thing. Well now my
question is did he do it? Okay,
19:22
Adam Curry: let me just
interject here. Mental health is
19:26
a huge stigma in aviation then
mainly because you can't fly
19:31
jacked on any kind of SSRI
that's you know, this is why
19:34
certainly ATP airline transport
pilot's are tested regularly.
19:40
You can even take an anti
histamine and this crew was this
19:47
Alaska Airlines crew is from
Seattle. I'm thinking this guy
19:51
was probably from Seattle as
well. Seattle, Washington and
19:54
Oregon. Are leaders leaders in
Micro dosing psilocybin for
20:02
mental health doctors are
prescribing this. There's a huge
20:06
push towards making this and
some other psychedelics. Legal,
20:11
but they're already practice.
And I think that's so yeah. When
20:15
they say oh, he was on mushrooms
not like he was hanging out on
20:18
me some shrooms, Mazda good
idea. No, I think I think this
20:21
pilot was was, was prescribed
this by a mental health
20:25
professional. And that's what
I'm hearing from from the
20:29
industry is Oh, yeah, you can't
take this. So why don't I take
20:33
that? Not a good thing.
20:39
John C Dvorak: Well, there's a
couple of thoughts on that. But
20:41
let's play part two, and then I
have another comment.
20:46
Unknown: My question is, did he
do it? Or was it a joke? And if
20:52
they took it the wrong way? I
don't know. But it's, it's one
20:56
of those questions. I don't see
him with his beautiful family
21:00
risking. How can we do that when
he knows he has a beautiful
21:05
family around.
21:06
Emerson was arrested Sunday
night after the flight crew
21:09
reported that he attempted to
shut down the engines on a
21:12
horizon Air flight from Everett,
Washington to San Francisco
21:16
while writing in the extra seat
in the cockpit. The plane was
21:19
diverted to Portland, where it
landed safely with more than 80
21:23
people on board. The FBI
affidavit said Emerson tried to
21:27
grab two red handles that would
have activated the plains fire
21:31
suppression system and cut off
fuel to its engines. Flight
21:34
Attendants placed Emerson in
risk restraints and seizure him
21:37
in the rear of the aircraft.
Alaska Airlines said Tuesday
21:41
that Emerson had been relieved
of all duties, Emerson will
21:44
remain in state custody pending
an initial appearance in US
21:48
District Court and Portland.
21:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, missing from
all three of our reports is that
21:51
he also tried to open the door
after that
21:54
John C Dvorak: yet, actually
this report at some point, so I
21:58
don't have it. Okay. Now, first
of all, the guy wasn't from
22:02
Seattle, it was clear in this
report, he lives in Pleasant
22:05
Hill, which is right here,
22:06
Adam Curry: right, but he could
have he was on a personal trip
22:09
to Seattle, which would have
been to see him to see a
22:12
psychiatrist.
22:13
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
deny the possibility that he was
22:16
micro dosed. I think this is
more of a story about because
22:22
they kept talking about
mushrooms. Not about what I
22:26
mean, I agree with your thesis
completely, except for the fact
22:29
that they keep talking about
mushrooms and in California,
22:32
unbeknownst to you, they've been
trying to legalize mushrooms for
22:37
a while and I think they don't
want to do it. And this this
22:40
whole thing is blowed up for the
reasons to just, you know, put a
22:45
bat put mushrooms in a bad
light.
22:48
Adam Curry: Ooh, because they
don't they want to. They want to
22:52
keep their farmer stuff. Like we
can't be doing natural stuff,
22:55
people. Yeah,
22:57
John C Dvorak: I think that's
exactly right. And if you'd
22:59
listen to report carefully, he
took the mushrooms 48 hours
23:02
before this incident. I
23:03
Adam Curry: don't know how much
I shoot for last. I don't allow
23:05
that long. No, I can talk to my
professional Joe Rogan and ask
23:09
him if
23:10
John C Dvorak: they last about
12 hours. Okay, Max.
23:13
Adam Curry: Well, that would
make sense. I I'm all in on that
23:16
I'm this or they're playing up
that angle. I'm all in. It
23:19
really does sound I mean, I I
really think that this micro
23:23
dosing is much more ramping, she
had all of Silicon Valley is
23:26
micro dosing, ketamine and
23:29
John C Dvorak: micro dosing
constantly. I think they're
23:30
trying to put a stop to it. And
I think they're trying to get
23:34
the legalization stopped. They
want to stop to micro dosing,
23:37
they want to stop all of it so
it's a good let's take a
23:39
combined Look at this. They do
not want this to continue in
23:44
this path it's on
23:46
Adam Curry: and honestly I don't
want my pilots on micro dosing
23:49
either to be honest
23:52
John C Dvorak: secretaria micro
dose,
23:55
Adam Curry: but the Big Pharma
is on the move just to stick
23:58
with something really odd. All
of a sudden, this pops up an
24:05
infomercial which is one of
those phony talk shows where
24:09
they get me some hosts to it was
probably on the each talk show
24:16
and so we've got all brown so
bad, all brown and black people
24:21
and they're in the studio and
has a whole intro to it and you
24:25
know positioning piece and is
brought to you by Advil, Advil,
24:28
big, big logo right there. But
listen to this, and then we'll
24:32
dissect what's going on here.
24:34
Unknown: Welcome to believe my
pain discussion about systemic
24:38
pain bias in healthcare. I want
to thank all of you and all of
24:42
you for joining me today as we
talk about this very important
24:45
issue. I also want to thank the
pain equity project developed by
24:48
Advil in partnership with the
Morehouse School of Medicine and
24:52
black health for inviting us to
be a part of their commitment to
24:55
addressing pain bias in black
communities. Pain equity is my
24:59
favorite. Okay, So Dr. Gucci,
you have written this book
25:02
legacy of black physician
records with racism in medicine,
25:06
you are a legacy black.
25:09
Adam Curry: This is this is just
filled with good stuff. I've
25:11
heard lots of
25:13
John C Dvorak: already
disgusting legacy black.
25:17
Adam Curry: This is great. Not a
DOS, not American descendants of
25:20
slavery no a legacy, your legacy
black doctor and reckons
25:24
Unknown: with racism in
medicine, you are a legacy black
25:28
female physician, and you are
armed with expertise that frames
25:34
this issue around black pain in
such a clearer way. And so I'm
25:37
so glad that you're here today.
25:40
John C Dvorak: You have to stop.
Where did this come from?
25:43
Adam Curry: This is from this is
from an Advil infomercial.
25:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, but
what channel what was it V? You
25:52
Adam Curry: know, YouTube, not
on television that I know what's
25:56
being promoted. It's being
promoted
25:58
Unknown: today. Thank you for
being here.
26:00
Thank you. Thank you for having
me. I'm so excited to be here to
26:02
talk to you about this issue.
That means so much to me, and it
26:06
impacts so many members of our
community. And we heard those
26:09
stories today.
26:10
All right. So Dr. J, could you
just outline what are some of
26:14
the myths about black people in
pain?
26:16
Adam Curry: Now this is stuff
I've been I've, I have my
26:19
thoughts about it. Speaking,
talking to Mo, but I've never
26:24
heard of this. This is really
was an eye opener about some of
26:26
the myths of black people and
pain. Remember, this is the
26:29
Advil pain equity project.
26:31
Unknown: So I think like the
main thing is that health
26:34
professionals think that black
people are biologically
26:38
different than other people,
that our skin is thicker,
26:41
doctors are racist, that we have
less sensitive skin and higher
26:45
pain tolerance. And that is all
absolutely false. There is no
26:49
difference between black
patients and patients of other
26:52
races. Wow.
26:54
So what do you think is
perpetuated these myths,
26:57
the legacy of slavery in this
country, whatever, interpersonal
27:00
and systemic racism that still
exists in this country, and that
27:03
is embedded into the institution
of medicine and how embedded
27:07
Adam Curry: this this was
really. And when I heard
27:09
embedded as like, that's where
my hackles went up. And I'll
27:12
tell you why in 15 seconds,
27:14
Unknown: embedded into the
institution of medicine and
27:16
health care, you know, our
health professionals most want
27:19
to do a good job and care for
their patients. But
27:22
unfortunately, we're seeing
implicit bias, that they are not
27:26
listening to their patients,
they're not responding to their
27:29
patients concerns and sometimes
even ignoring their patients.
27:33
Adam Curry: So this went on for
20 minutes, but obviously, as a
27:37
no agenda, media
deconstructionist? You know, I'm
27:41
like, Well, what is Advil? So, I
mean, doctors aren't prescribing
27:45
Advil, seriously. You can just
go and buy Advil. But you have
27:49
to see who is the manufacturer
of Advil. I'll give you one
27:55
guess. Pfizer, yes. Pfizer and
what is their they have one
27:59
opioid, it's called embedder. So
when I'm hearing embedd, and I'm
28:05
hearing this is all subliminal,
28:07
John C Dvorak: OSHA, they're
using the words to get you.
28:12
Adam Curry: And they do have an
28:14
John C Dvorak: oxy code using
embedded in a very odd way.
28:18
Adam Curry: Very, very weird
way. And I know that
28:21
particularly black men, I'm
sorry, Legacy black men, Legacy
28:25
black, black men, no legacy
black men, they don't like going
28:29
to the doctor at all because
they know the two choices are a
28:33
pill or a knife. They don't like
either one. That's it. I am
28:37
parroting mo facts right now.
It's either the pill or the
28:41
knife and they don't like either
one of those. So I think this is
28:45
this is to get more black people
on opioids. It's killing a lot
28:49
of white people. We have a whole
market of blacks though. That's
28:53
right legacy blacks
28:55
John C Dvorak: lay Yeah,
28:57
Adam Curry: it was really it was
really disturbing.
29:01
John C Dvorak: I'm giving you a
clip of the day for for I don't
29:04
know who say this
29:07
Adam Curry: probably but oh no
one sent this to me this I was
29:10
just stumbled upon now someone
else sent me a YouTube clip and
29:14
I was watching it and I saw what
is this Advil black?
29:16
John C Dvorak: Oh you Oh you
didn't want yeah doing that too.
29:20
Adam Curry: And I Oh, and I just
clicked on it I forgot all about
29:22
the
29:23
John C Dvorak: gold mine you
clicked on it you've just
29:25
stopped you stripped and
stumbled and hit your head on a
29:28
rock and said what's this rock?
Oh my god it's a gold nugget.
29:32
Adam Curry: It was a 16th
anniversary present is what it
29:34
was. It was fantastic. So now
now you know of course of course
29:39
then all this stuff starts to
pop up because we have we have
29:42
trouble in fantasy land you know
ozempic would go V the weight
29:47
loss shots we've gone from
Hollywood getting everybody all
29:50
excited about him to maybe the
not good but let's all do it.
29:54
It's great. Just more and more
more babies. Kids they can you
29:58
can put your kids on this stuff
right? It's great for
30:00
everything. I mean, we have
medical device manufacturers of
30:04
fake Bo of artificial hips and
joints all freaking out because
30:10
you know their stock price is
going down because we don't have
30:12
any more fat people. Walmart's
gonna go out of business. But
30:16
oh, Dr. Jenn has some trouble on
the horizon dark clouds.
30:20
Unknown: Let's talk to you Dr.
Jian right now and talking
30:23
medical news here in LA the
companies that make the drugs
30:25
ozempic. And we go we are
warning consumers to be on the
30:28
lookout for counterfeit drugs.
How can people make sure that
30:31
you're getting the real drug
30:33
Adam Curry: and not the fake
version? Now this is really they
30:37
dance around this here. But the
this Megillat tide I think is
30:42
what it is. That's a generic
product. So you can get some
30:49
Megillah is it semaglutide? I
30:51
John C Dvorak: think that's
similar glue tide?
30:53
Adam Curry: Yeah. Is that
similar glue tight? Well, you
30:55
can it's generic, you can get it
from other places. They just
30:59
can't call it the ozempic
obviously. And there's some
31:03
other marketing things they
can't do. So now they're they're
31:06
trying to steer people away, I
believe from generics.
31:10
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting. But but making it
31:13
sound like you get the brand
name.
31:16
Adam Curry: Exactly. And not the
fake version. Fake version. So
31:20
well. Fake. Not saying
counterfeit, fake and
31:24
John C Dvorak: counterfeit,
whatever. The fake version
31:27
counterfeit. Yeah. Yeah, you got
a problem. Somebody's losing
31:33
money. And they see it and they
go, Oh, my God, this is no good.
31:36
Adam Curry: The GDP of Norway is
going down fake version. Yeah,
31:41
you
31:41
Unknown: guys, this is a problem
worldwide. And there are law
31:45
enforcement agencies around the
world. And here in the US that
31:49
are tracking it, there are some
tips that the drug makers of
31:52
these legitimate medications
want people to know about. In
31:56
terms of labeling. If the label
looks like it's poor quality, or
32:01
doesn't stick properly to the
pen or the side of the box, that
32:05
can be a sign of a counterfeit
spelling errors on the carton or
32:09
the pen.
32:10
Adam Curry: It's like Gucci
bags. If your Gucci bag has one
32:14
see that, you know, it's not the
real deal, even though it
32:17
probably comes out of the back
end of the factory,
32:19
Unknown: including spacing where
the numbers and the words are
32:22
too close together. The
counterfeit carton may not be
32:26
tamper resistant, so that can be
a sign and then batch numbers,
32:31
they may not sync up so the
batch number on the pen may not
32:34
match the batch number on the
box. Now notice
32:36
Adam Curry: she's not telling
you that you can die from this
32:39
or that, you know, this is a
horrible product, it's fake this
32:43
that's not the real deal inside
she's only telling you about the
32:45
packaging.
32:46
Unknown: But this is a scary and
unfortunately growing issue
32:50
because these drugs are so in
demand here in the country and
32:54
worldwide.
32:55
So Dr. Jenn Why should someone
do if they think they have a
32:58
counterfeit version?
33:00
Well, first of all, you should
ask your pharmacist or your
33:03
health care provider if you
think you have one that's
33:07
counterfeit, discontinue the use
if the pharmacist or
33:11
Adam Curry: discontinue the use
She's not saying stop
33:13
immediately. You might die from
some horrible product that's in
33:16
there discontinue the use Yes.
Because you know, that's not the
33:20
official brand name product.
It's a generic Yes.
33:24
John C Dvorak: But there's a
there's kind of a logic here,
33:27
which is we'll get the product
to begin with.
33:30
Adam Curry: I know I know. Well
It's coming It's coming at the
33:33
end should ask
33:33
Unknown: your pharmacist or your
health care provider if you
33:37
think you have one that's
counterfeit, discontinue the use
33:41
if the pharmacist or the FDA has
told you that that batch number
33:46
is implicated and again you know
this bears repeating you want to
33:50
get all prescription medication
from a reputable source. This is
33:54
where you want to cut corners
for price even though the cost
33:57
is such a big factor.
33:59
Adam Curry: So it's all about
the price. Yes, because you can
34:01
get the generic much cheaper
than these very expensive death
34:08
shots who knows what they're
going to do i i would not
34:11
recommend any I'm not a doctor
but I would not recommend that
34:13
from what I've seen. Sharon
Osbourne looks like she's on
34:17
death's door so well that you
know so we got a price control
34:22
over there we've got you know
the RSV shots is just it's not
34:26
happening. It's not happening.
What can we do we had a meeting
34:29
new
34:30
Unknown: drug to protect infants
against RSV is in short supply,
34:34
prompting the CDC short to
update its recommendations.
34:37
Doctors are now being told to
prioritize giving the shot to
34:40
infants who were at the highest
risk of severe disease those
34:43
under six months old with
underlying conditions.
34:47
Adam Curry: Oh no. Oh, honey, we
better go it's in short supply.
34:51
We better go get him now please.
Then no and no one's taken the
34:57
COVID shot to the new image
proved this
35:02
John C Dvorak: uptake is 3%
Correct editor
35:04
Unknown: on your book, we find
out now that only 3% of the
35:08
American people want to buy into
this latest booster, this latest
35:12
COVID Booster. Finally we see
people saying the light about
35:16
what's been going on here.
35:17
Yeah, we talk about that in the
book deception because what
35:20
happened is the CDC scientist
and the FDA scientist, all
35:24
agreed that the booster should
only be for those at risk of
35:26
risk. 65 A Biden political
appointee, Rochelle walensky,
35:31
came forward and said, Oh, no,
let's give it to baby starting
35:33
at six months. Nobody in the
rest of the world does that. And
35:37
if you look at the risk versus
benefits, there are risks from
35:40
the vaccine for children. And
there are virtually no benefits
35:43
because healthy kids we now have
seen the statistics, virtually
35:47
no healthy kids. And it may be
the numbers zero, no healthy
35:52
kids died from COVID. So your
kid doesn't need to be
35:55
vaccinated for this.
35:56
Yeah. Well, fleece Pfizer got
rich Senator, thank you.
35:59
Adam Curry: Okay. And they it
appears that lawsuits are now
36:03
cropping up against particularly
Pfizer, but I'm sure Maderna
36:08
will happen as well. Because as
we talked about, a couple of
36:13
weeks ago, from that, from the
DNA, Gene cancer gene jockey, as
36:18
he calls himself in the South
Carolina House. Yeah, he said,
36:24
Hey, you know, what they did is
they got an approval from the
36:27
FDA, on the on the way they
sequenced everything and the way
36:32
they made the vaccine at that
point, but when they had to make
36:35
it at scale, they did it just to
shorten the explanation. They
36:38
did it in a different way which
led which basically adulterated
36:43
lApi product, and it Yes, with
DNA fragments in it. And so,
36:49
perhaps that I think lawyers are
getting ready now that that's a
36:52
way around the immunity. That
pharmaceutical? Yeah, I mean, if
37:00
if you if you have a product
that's approved, and then the
37:04
product you make is, is is
manufactured differently. I
37:08
think you are liable and we're
going to see big lawsuits,
37:11
John C Dvorak: this loss of
surprise, surprise goods. This
37:15
could be a Johns Manville level
of
37:19
Adam Curry: lawsuit Johns
Manville so many of you must
37:22
explain,
37:23
John C Dvorak: you don't hear of
him much because it had been out
37:26
of business for years. That's
the company they got nailed with
37:28
asbestos lawsuits. And all the
billions of dollars put aside
37:33
for mezzo theme theme
37:36
Adam Curry: was to mess with the
theme. The messy feely OMA
37:40
mesothelioma, me OMA
mesothelioma,
37:44
John C Dvorak: mesothelioma,
something like that, okay? So
37:49
they were bankrupted and
completely and not with a boy,
37:55
I'm bankrupt. That's refinances
go through chapter 11. Or no,
37:59
you're done. You've just done
this could happen to Pfizer less
38:04
possible with Maderna I believe
because I think Madura Maderna
38:08
is connected to government
agencies in such a way that
38:13
there'll be protected. One in
particular, and yeah, the did
38:21
Pfizer could be wiped out.
38:24
Adam Curry: Well, good. That's
what I think. There goes the
38:28
Advil. But I got two more
stories here. Mo new persevere.
38:35
Is an antiviral given to people
after they show signs of having
38:38
COVID-19 interferes with COVID
19 is virus ability to make
38:43
copies of itself thus stopping
the spread of the virus. This is
38:46
a study in Medline it keeps the
virus level low. The study found
38:52
that virus can sometimes survive
more Neupert severe, resulting
38:56
in Mute mutations that have
spread to other people. Okay,
39:01
beautiful. So with all these
problems going on, we gotta we
39:05
got to kind of do something.
We've got to start injecting
39:08
people with something we need
salespeople, where can we go?
39:12
Africa,
39:13
Unknown: Nigeria has commenced a
large scale vaccination campaign
39:16
against human papilloma virus
HPV in a beach to substantially
39:21
reduce cervical cancer rates.
The initiative aims to vaccinate
39:25
16 point 6 million girls aged
nine to 14 by the end of 2025
39:31
Adam Curry: words let's go in
check 16 million black girls in
39:35
Nigeria with with Gardasil. Come
on people Oh, they couldn't sell
39:43
it to the mothers here. I wonder
who is yeah, this is Africa
39:47
today. So the reports not easy
to follow, but I mean, come on.
39:54
Stop. Just stop. It's bad.
40:00
John C Dvorak: So my only COVID
clip if you're going to talk
40:02
about COVID for
40:03
Adam Curry: a minute longer
might as well go ahead
40:06
John C Dvorak: is this crazy
clip initially part of it, but
40:10
they're, they've got some new
research and I'm kind of kind of
40:14
amused by the fact that one
research paper comes out about
40:18
something and they're all over
it. I think this is NPR and then
40:22
they go into yak, yak, yak and
Yak about it. We're meanwhile
40:25
you have hundreds of papers on
the efficiency of our efficacy.
40:30
Let's use that word of
ivermectin and all the rest of
40:33
these things. And nobody talks
about any of that, because
40:36
heaven forbid, but let's listen
to this. Kind of weird. Let's
40:40
see if we can come up with
something going on here that
40:42
might be useful. And I won't I
don't have the whole clip. But
40:45
I'll tell you the punchline
after you play this COVID
40:48
Unfortunately, I spelled it
wrong. COVID got, it gets about
40:55
Lon COVID.
40:56
Unknown: Vice Chair, and I'd
also know he's only 51
40:59
brain fog, memory loss fatigue.
These are hallmarks of long
41:04
COVID. What causes long COVID In
PRs will stone reports that
41:09
scientists are now eyeing an
intriguing explanation.
41:14
The first clue emerged when
researchers scoured the blood of
41:17
long COVID patients. They saw
having low levels of the
41:20
chemical serotonin help predict
whether someone had persistent
41:24
symptoms. Next, they had to
figure out why my Alevi, one of
41:28
the study's authors at the
University of Pennsylvania says
41:30
this brought them to the gut.
41:32
What is interesting is that 90%
of the serotonin in the body is
41:37
actually made in the gut.
41:39
There hunch was this lack of
serotonin could be a consequence
41:42
of what's known as viral
persistence. It's a major line
41:45
of research in long COVID.
Multiple studies have found
41:48
evidence of an ongoing viral
infection. So levy says they
41:52
checked for genetic material. In
their own study participants,
41:55
about 30% of the patients we
could find viral RNA in their
41:59
gastrointestinal tract. We took
this and tried to model it in
42:02
mice.
42:03
There they focused on
inflammation that was driven by
42:05
type one interferon. Christof
Tice, also on the Penn team says
42:10
this inflammatory response
messed with the body's ability
42:13
to absorb the amino acid
tryptophan,
42:16
and it's actually the direct
precursor to the production of
42:19
serotonin in the gut. So if
there's less tryptophan, there's
42:21
less serotonin production.
42:22
This immune response also led to
clotting. Ty says that ends up
42:26
reducing the amount of serotonin
available in the bloodstream.
42:29
And here, the story moves to the
vagus nerve, which connects to
42:32
the gut and other organs.
42:34
The vagus nerve is, is really
interesting, because it's
42:36
essentially the brain's
monitoring system of the body.
42:40
They found this depletion of
serotonin affected the
42:42
communication between the vagus
nerve and the brain leading to
42:46
neurocognitive symptoms.
42:48
Adam Curry: Yes, but I've seen
this big, big news release about
42:52
it earlier this month on the
16th. And you know what the
42:55
solution is to long COVID
42:57
John C Dvorak: deaths. What's
the punchline I was gonna
42:59
deliver? Yes, they go on and on
and on and on about this.
43:03
Adam Curry: Prozac? SSRIs?
Serotonin
43:07
John C Dvorak: photoessay, right
in the report, Prozac?
43:10
Adam Curry: Hey, we gotta fix
everybody. It's all good. Don't
43:13
worry about it. We happen to
have a whole bunch of them.
43:17
Prozac. We know we go. We got
all kinds of groovy SSRIs Yeah,
43:22
that'll solve it. That's it.
43:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this
particular report, they only
43:25
mentioned Prozac just makes it
seem like a very long native ad,
43:30
and goes on for five minutes
with this more and more and more
43:35
of this chat. And
43:38
Adam Curry: it's perfect. I
roll. Why should the military
43:41
industrial complex get all the
goodies right now, in this time
43:44
of our life? They're getting all
the money, we gotta get up
43:47
salespeople. What can we do? I
have an idea. Hey,
43:51
John C Dvorak: I can imagine the
meeting is say because it would
43:53
have a guy right up right up
front saying what you just said,
43:57
Jeff, of course, what can we do?
Can we do? Pat All Hands?
44:03
Adam Curry: Stand up all hands.
Zoom call, right? He got it got
44:09
any ideas? Hey, go look at any
of those. Any of those oxycontin
44:15
documentaries or movies? It's
not that far fetched. And that's
44:20
just the people that they strung
up for it. It's not that Johnson
44:24
and Johnson who you know, are
five times more responsible
44:28
looking at the fines they paid.
I mean, Johnson and Johnson paid
44:31
like $22 billion in fines.
payment on the stock.
44:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, laid money.
44:36
Adam Curry: Blame it on the
Sacklers Sheesh. So then, just
44:41
while we're in our first hour
here, I've been extremely irked
44:44
by this Westminster declaration,
as you know. Wow. Yeah, I've
44:49
been very
44:50
John C Dvorak: expected to hear
I thought we were done with
44:52
that.
44:52
Adam Curry: Well, I thought so
too. And recall what was the
44:56
main point of this Westminster
declaration by the So I've been
45:01
corrected, I should say liberal
statists not leftist. These guys
45:06
are liberal. So yeah,
45:07
John C Dvorak: well, one guy
sent me out. You think Hitchens
45:09
is a liberal?
45:12
Adam Curry: You know, what is
he?
45:13
John C Dvorak: Peter Hitchens is
a conservative guys in the
45:16
Conservative Party in England.
He's the other Hitchens dead
45:20
brothers. They're very
conservative right wing almost.
45:24
So what?
45:26
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
bring up the Westminster
45:28
blotter,
45:29
John C Dvorak: right wingers are
into net neutrality, right.
45:32
Adam Curry: This is about which,
by the way, a mistake right up
45:36
front. If you want to reap,
reap, reap, bring net neutrality
45:42
back to life, it needs a
rebranding and I would suggest
45:45
net equity, just saying that
that's probably something they
45:49
should
45:50
John C Dvorak: net equity. Does
that does that your invention?
45:54
Adam Curry: No, that is from
Brian Tucker.
45:57
John C Dvorak: I Ryan Tucker
should get a 10 Gold star for
46:00
that net equity. Beautiful.
46:03
Adam Curry: Let me write it down
just in case.
46:05
John C Dvorak: In fact, I think
it's a show title
46:06
Adam Curry: that could be so
again from the Westminster
46:10
declaration signed by luminaries
such as Matt Taibbi, Michael
46:13
Shellenberger, Jonathan burger,
Jonathan Haidt, Steven Pinker,
46:19
Tim Robbins, John, John Cleese,
et cetera, et cetera. Their main
46:26
points are after some preamble,
we call on governments and
46:30
international organization
organizations to fulfill their
46:32
responsibilities to the people
and uphold article 19 of the
46:37
Universal Declaration of Human
Rights, the UDHR we call on tech
46:42
corporations to undertake to
protect the Digital Public
46:45
Square, as defined in article 19
of UDHR refrained from
46:48
politically motivated
censorship, the censorship of
46:51
dissenting voices and censorship
of political opinion. Notice
46:54
they're very particular about
political, political, political
47:00
and dissenting voices, not about
being a medical medical issues,
47:07
vaccines now only politics.
47:10
John C Dvorak: And that's
interesting. That's interesting.
47:11
They would isolate that.
47:13
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
reason and this is what what
47:15
happened. What are the chances
that in this very same week, the
47:22
Secretary General of the United
Nations, Gonzo guitarras, comes
47:31
out, comes out with this little
announcement.
47:35
Unknown: These platforms are
being misused to subvert science
47:38
and spread disinformation and
hate to billions of people.
47:43
These clear and present global
threats demands clear and
47:46
coordinated global action. Our
policy brief on information
47:53
integrity on digital digital
platforms, puts forward the
47:57
framework for concerns
international response,
48:01
Adam Curry: payment is meant
conservative. So then he holds
48:04
up this little brochure, and I
go and download his little
48:08
brochure, the policy brief on
information integrity on digital
48:12
platforms. Well, let's just take
a quick glance at this, shall
48:15
we? They have a relevant
international international
48:19
legal framework.
48:20
John C Dvorak: Again, I hate to
stop you. Because you're on a
48:23
roll, I'm gonna get you back
going. Christine is still in her
48:27
vacation.
48:28
Adam Curry: She's back. She's
not but she loves me. She lets
48:32
me roll man just she actually
gets it, she gets it. The
48:35
promotion of information
integrity must be fully grounded
48:38
in the pertinent international
norms and standards, including
48:42
human rights law and the
principles of sovereignty and
48:45
non intervention in domestic
affairs. Article 19 of the
48:50
Universal Declaration of Human
Rights, and article 19 of the
48:54
Covenant, protect the right to
freedom of expression, including
48:58
the freedom to seek, receive and
impart information and ideas of
49:02
all kinds, regardless of
frontiers and through any media.
49:05
That is, that's literally what
article 19 is. The so this is
49:11
how they're going to take
article 19 As introduced to us
49:15
by the Westminster declaration,
and how we're going to get
49:19
around it. The human rights to
freedom of expression is not
49:22
limited to favorably received
information, no freedom of
49:26
expression, and access to
information may be subject to
49:30
certain restrictions that meet
specific criteria laid out in
49:35
article 19 of the covenant.
49:37
John C Dvorak: This is the what
they cite in your reading it
49:40
verbatim. I'm reading
49:41
Adam Curry: it verbatim. This,
this is from this is from the
49:43
United Nations regarding their
very own united, you know,
49:47
article 19 The ones that these
guys launch, but it's all about
49:54
John C Dvorak: basically
promoting Yes,
49:56
Adam Curry: the robot plan of
action on the prohibition of ad
49:59
Because the advocacy of national
racial or religious hatred that
50:04
constitutes incitement to
hostility, discrimination or
50:10
violence, adopted in 2012
provides legal and policy
50:15
guidance to states that's
everyone who's member of the
50:17
United Nations on how to best
implement the Article of the
50:21
Covenant in Article four of the
International Convention of the
50:24
Elimination of All Forms of
Racial Discrimination, which
50:27
prohibits certain forms of hate
speech. Oh, that's interesting.
50:34
In resolution 76, two to seven
adopted in 2021, when we were
50:38
all locked down, not paying
attention. The General Assembly
50:42
emphasized that all forms of
disinformation can negatively
50:47
impact the enjoyment of human
rights and fundamental freedoms,
50:52
as well as the attainment of the
Sustainable Development Goals.
50:56
Well, this will not stand. You
can't say anything you want, if
51:00
it interrupts with the enjoyment
of human rights, and the
51:05
Sustainable Development Goals.
No. Similarly, in its
51:08
Resolution, adopted in 2022, the
Human Rights Council, the same
51:14
people who drafted article 19
affirm that this information can
51:18
negatively affect the enjoyment
and realization of all human
51:22
rights. You see what they're
doing here. Unless it's
51:27
political dissent, which is
legal under Article 19, if it
51:32
for any reason, interferes with
your enjoyment of human rights,
51:37
and you know, like happiness. Or
if it could incite, this is the
51:43
old you can't yell fire in a
crowded theater. If it is, if it
51:48
is incitement to hostility,
discrimination or violence, then
51:53
it doesn't count. But this is
where we're going towards this
51:57
is this is this is the
workaround. Oh, yeah, sure.
52:01
Westminster declaration, you you
approve journalists and believe
52:05
me there's going to be a cut out
in a carve out for journalists,
52:09
because they're all journalists
except for Tim Robbins. But
52:13
Hitchens and with those guys, if
it's not about politics, or
52:18
dissenting voices if about
anything else if you're against
52:22
the medical pharmaceutical
industry if you don't like war,
52:27
then it will be seen as unlawful
speech and therefore you will be
52:34
blocked and that's what these
guys want. Maybe they don't want
52:38
it but they're still
52:39
John C Dvorak: there being
there. You we said it before
52:42
they're useful idiots. Yes,
they're stupid. Which is funny
52:46
ironic because MathType AB had a
podcast with Katie whatever her
52:51
name was called use clans useful
idiots. Yeah, so that makes it a
52:56
bit ironic and at the same time
is it is sad.
53:02
Adam Curry: So they have a blog
post that goes along with this.
53:05
It's in the show notes but you
kind of get the idea just by
53:08
reading the first few paragraphs
our information ecosystem is now
53:11
so polluted with lies and hate
that voices for positive change
53:15
are seriously struggling to make
themselves heard. In all in all
53:19
my so
53:20
John C Dvorak: hard to get a
podcast going
53:23
Adam Curry: Don't worry that
come on for podcast to where yet
53:27
don't worry. And all my years
and communications I can't say I
53:30
ever worked in such a troubled
environments. This is Melissa
53:34
Fleming who is some student at
the United Nations and the
53:40
environment the stakes are
growing higher. By the day as
53:43
breakneck developments and
generative AI threatened to take
53:47
online hate speech myths and
disinformation to new levels.
53:55
Wildly popular new tools can
generate disordered histories
53:58
and fake profiles and present
them convincingly, persuasively,
54:02
as fact.
54:05
John C Dvorak: Oh, and that's
new to the world. No one's ever
54:08
done anything like that before?
54:10
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
if you got the clip. Of I
54:17
seriously got at least three
emails from people saying, Hey,
54:22
man, Greta is going off the off
the rail. Yeah, no,
54:26
John C Dvorak: I saw the I
posted the the.
54:29
Adam Curry: I mean, it says
satire right there on the
54:32
screen.
54:34
John C Dvorak: I know the thing
is, and it's not it's not even a
54:37
good. It's so ludicrous. But I
picked it up some guy one of the
54:42
you know, right wing Hollywood
type Sorbo actually posted. This
54:47
can't be real.
54:48
Adam Curry: He says here let me
let me play it for a second so
54:51
people can hear this. Okay,
well, a little more
54:53
John C Dvorak: background.
Background. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
54:56
This is a clip of Greta
supposedly at some seminars
55:01
Adam Curry: No no no no that's
not it. She's on a talk show you
55:03
don't talk show Okay, okay, so
tell her she's an established it
55:06
says BBC in the left hand
corner. It's it looks like a
55:10
real interview, but it's edited
so that most of her answers are
55:13
in a lot in a wide shot.
55:16
John C Dvorak: And then the
close lights funny, the close
55:18
ups
55:18
Adam Curry: are really poorly
done. But I mean within three
55:21
seconds, you already know and it
says satire right there on the
55:26
screen but people like hey man,
I don't know if this is the
55:29
John C Dvorak: right stop. I saw
a version that did not have that
55:32
on the screen both
55:33
Adam Curry: sent me versions
with satire right there on the
55:35
screen was That's ludicrous. But
55:37
John C Dvorak: I saw the
original version I saw did not
55:40
say that it was just became
apparent when you watched it.
55:43
Adam Curry: Let's listen to this
it only a minute. So this is and
55:45
it's a good one, it was pretty
good
55:47
Unknown: was always bad
specifically for the planet. If
55:50
we want to continue fighting
battles like environmentally
55:54
conscious humans, we must make
the change to sustainable tanks
55:58
and weaponry. There are so many
new concepts for battery powered
56:02
fighter jets that can carry many
more missiles, biodegradable
56:07
missiles, of course, something
literally everybody can do to
56:11
stop this nonsense is, for
example, block the roads to
56:16
gardens and farms, to the plants
don't get overrun by these heavy
56:20
heavy tanks, hand grenades. Very
important. If you use hand
56:24
grenades. Please use vegan
grenades. No animal should have
56:28
to give their life for all this
mayhem and chaos. They have a
56:31
special sticker on them. You
really can't miss them in the
56:35
grenade market or wherever you
buy them. Yeah, I cover all of
56:38
this and more in my newest book,
vegan wars.
56:43
Adam Curry: So, I mean, there is
a real danger that people just
56:48
get duped by stupid stuff. But
man Come on.
56:56
John C Dvorak: Well, the I like
the vague and grenades. I like.
57:02
Clearly mark, clearly mark and
you Biomet the grenade market,
57:07
which I thought was great. Book
vegan wars, which was such a
57:14
book is
57:15
Adam Curry: very good. I did get
some serious replies from dudes
57:19
named Ben. And they're talking
about Border Gateway Protocol,
57:22
which is one of the things that
that our FCC Chairwoman
57:27
discussed. And or not, she
didn't even discuss it. It's in
57:31
the it's in the net neutrality
proposal for rulemaking which is
57:36
now underway. And he says, well,
there is a bit of a real problem
57:42
with Border Gateway Protocol.
And, you know, people do set up
57:46
sometimes phony routers that
we've seen this happen where a
57:49
route will get sent to China or
sometimes as route flapping it
57:54
turns off entire parts of the of
the net become unavailable. But
57:57
to me, it's like yeah, I like
commercial companies getting
58:02
crap for that. This is how the
Internet was built. This is how
58:05
peering works back in the day,
you know, be the you didn't peer
58:09
with someone if they didn't peer
back on equal footing of
58:12
traffic. So they had to buy
transit, the commercial market
58:15
really built the internet out.
And if you want the government
58:20
if the government builds a big
red button, they're gonna find
58:24
reasons to push it and this is
just the fact government
58:28
John C Dvorak: started the
internet actually the the arm of
58:32
the government the research arm
of the government ARPA started
58:37
the internet and they got it so
far. You know what it was like
58:39
it kind of an interesting is
when the commercial interest
58:43
looking to make money got
involved asked and there is
58:48
nothing doesn't even look the
same. And is faster than the
58:53
government would have ever
gotten us?
58:55
Adam Curry: Well, so the point
is that that border gateway
58:58
protocol is not secure. There's
a there's a newer version, which
59:01
does have some authentication.
I'm just giving you the very hot
59:07
top level. But he was a dude
damn been advocating for Why
59:11
think there should be
regulations about that. Well,
59:13
no, if you don't want the
government involved in having
59:17
any power, they're trying this
again, this now it's coming from
59:20
France and
59:21
Unknown: with French news, the
interior minister Cheryl Domina
59:25
is asking for the implementation
of a so called backdoor to
59:29
access the messages on phones of
people who are suspected of
59:33
posing a threat to France's
national security. For services
59:37
like WhatsApp, Telegram and
signal that means creating an
59:40
exception to the end to end
encryption system. To tell us a
59:44
bit more Julius eager from our
science and technology desk is
59:48
with me and Julia. We have heard
this demand before haven't we to
59:52
create a so called backdoor for
encrypted messages from
59:56
politicians in Europe but also
from politicians in the US.
59:59
Adam Curry: So That's cropping
up again and I got a note from a
1:00:04
violent crime inspector, one of
our producers he says, you know,
1:00:07
telegram is really horrible
because it's based in the UK
1:00:11
they don't care. They won't
unencrypt stuff for us. So we
1:00:14
can track drug pushers and all
this stuff. So yeah, I feel bad
1:00:18
about it. But no, I mean, it
does. So okay, so telegram gives
1:00:22
you backdoors they're just gonna
go to something else encryption
1:00:25
is encryption. We're gonna have
to find other ways.
1:00:30
John C Dvorak: I called the
legwork. Maybe actual old
1:00:34
fashioned police work. I
1:00:36
Adam Curry: don't want to
diminish it. But yeah, I mean,
1:00:38
yes, you would think that that's
a way Yeah,
1:00:40
John C Dvorak: I remember back
in the early 80s When they tried
1:00:44
to push make encryption illegal
and they actually what's his
1:00:48
name to PGP guy? Yeah, but put
on T shirts, remember? I think
1:00:52
he got arrested. In fact, they
were they're pushing so hard on
1:00:55
this. And they kept doing
everything they could they had
1:00:59
the sort of a box that we're
gonna put on the television so
1:01:02
they can monitor everything.
It's and I don't blame law
1:01:06
enforcement for this. If they
can make their job easier. Sure,
1:01:12
gonna desk what they're going to
push for. There's not like
1:01:15
they're evil. They just want to
make their lives easier. They
1:01:18
just assumed eat donuts. Coffee
Shop. Oh,
1:01:23
Unknown: God.
1:01:24
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you,
1:01:25
Adam Curry: John at the
vorak.org
1:01:29
John C Dvorak: Donut says do any
real work because it's, it's
1:01:32
better as far as you can. Donuts
are tasty. And so you'd rather
1:01:35
have donuts and didn't actually
go out and pound the pavement
1:01:39
and do real foot work. It's a
pain in the ass. I love real
1:01:42
police work as hard.
1:01:44
Adam Curry: I love it. There was
some guy and nobody in the
1:01:45
social media, like, you know,
value for value was very big
1:01:50
corruptible, because you guys
will just do stuff that your
1:01:52
biggest donors want to hear. I
think I think we've proven the
1:01:56
opposite. Every single time. We
say very unpopular things with
1:02:00
our base, please. No, no, no,
no, no. So now I want to pivot
1:02:08
into this Supreme Court case you
asked for some follow up
1:02:12
information. We have our pro
bono lawyer who was following
1:02:16
this for us. This is about the
Missouri versus Biden, how they
1:02:21
were coercing social media
companies. And there's examples.
1:02:27
There's emails, everything is in
this case of the government,
1:02:30
particularly Department of
Homeland Security, Department of
1:02:34
Health and Human Services Sissa,
the security information of the
1:02:39
cyber information security
agency, FBI, and the White House
1:02:44
itself also during Trump, but
more during the Biden having
1:02:49
people removing content about
vaccinations and saying to these
1:02:54
companies, well, you're killing
people. You know, we got section
1:02:58
230, and I might not be good,
which is a gross violation of
1:03:06
First Amendment rights.
1:03:09
John C Dvorak: And remember,
putting a gun to their heads
1:03:11
Adam Curry: and the the
amendments and the Constitution
1:03:14
in general is not rights you're
given we have the right to
1:03:18
fright free speech from God, our
creator in the United States.
1:03:22
These are specific rules that
say this is what the government
1:03:25
cannot do. So this, the the
court case from the Fifth
1:03:31
Circuit gotta stay. And the
conservative judges all wrote
1:03:37
dissenting opinions. And you
asked why? And the answer to
1:03:40
that is because that means
temporarily until this case
1:03:44
comes before the Supreme Court.
The government can go on doing
1:03:48
what they were doing, telling
this selling the social media
1:03:51
companies, what they can what
they should be taking off. And
1:03:55
the reason for that is not for
your protection, not for your
1:04:00
for your health. No, it is 100%
political, and who better to go
1:04:06
to to get a full explanation.
Then the liberal intellectual
1:04:11
elites Kara Swisher and Scott
Galloway of the pivot podcast
1:04:15
Supreme Court
1:04:15
Unknown: is temporarily allowing
the Biden administration to
1:04:17
continue efforts to get social
media companies to remove
1:04:20
misleading posts. Late last
week, the Supreme Court
1:04:23
announced he was pausing an
appeals court ruling that
1:04:26
limited the government's ability
to communicate with these
1:04:28
companies. The court has agreed
to hear the case this term in
1:04:31
addition to several other social
media First Amendment cases
1:04:34
already on the docket. It's a
win for the Biden
1:04:37
administration. But I don't know
in combating misinformation, at
1:04:40
least for now. The original
lawsuit claims that government
1:04:43
officials censored protected
speech by urging tech companies
1:04:46
to modify posts involving COVID
and the election to cases
1:04:50
already seen lots of back and
forth with various appeals and
1:04:54
injunction. Missouri's Attorney
General one of the parties who
1:04:57
brought the suit called the
government's actions, the worst
1:04:59
first time Amid violation in our
nation's history. I don't know I
1:05:03
it's interesting. What's the
best argument for the government
1:05:05
to make
1:05:06
Adam Curry: now what do you
think Scott Galloway, Professor,
1:05:09
Professor in media studies or
marketing or whatever it is?
1:05:12
What do you think he's going to
say? What do you think he feels
1:05:15
about this?
1:05:17
John C Dvorak: Well, I could
barely understand her. What's
1:05:19
wrong with her voice? Nah,
1:05:20
Adam Curry: she's She says that
she has young kids and she keeps
1:05:23
picking up fluids. But I think
she's been six toppled, jabbed,
1:05:29
he's probably picking up COVID
Every every two weeks.
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: He's going to I
have no idea. I mean, he's gonna
1:05:37
say, as good as we should have
censorship.
1:05:40
Adam Curry: Well, gee, just a
guess out of this plucked out of
1:05:44
the air.
1:05:45
Unknown: Well, the best argument
is that we have first amendment
1:05:48
rights. And if we pass a law
that says that social media
1:05:53
firms I mean, it's so ironic,
because Congress passed a law
1:05:57
that said that they're not
subject to the same scrutiny of
1:05:59
the content they put out as
every other media company called
1:06:01
T 30. But I would imagine the
defense for the White House, or
1:06:06
the legal claim of the White
House says, If we pass a law
1:06:09
saying you can't say this stuff,
then yeah, that's a violation of
1:06:12
the First Amendment, which is
government shall pass and
1:06:14
allotted him it's, you know,
it's free speech. But I think
1:06:18
that they have some rights to
free speech and can say to these
1:06:21
companies, when you are saying
these things, and they get
1:06:24
algorithmically elevated, and
both of us, including the
1:06:27
executives of your firm,
acknowledge that there's no
1:06:30
evidence that mRNA vaccines
alter your DNA. Can we work
1:06:36
together to stop the spread of
this obviously false information
1:06:40
that is creating greater levels
of death, disease and disability
1:06:44
when, when there is a deep fake
of Nancy of stuffy Speaker
1:06:48
Pelosi makes her appear a new
breed? And can we all agree that
1:06:52
this is fake? This is bad for
voters? This is bad for America.
1:06:56
And we'd appreciate we'd like to
know what you're doing to stop
1:06:59
this. Isn't that their First
Amendment? Right?
1:07:03
John C Dvorak: Well, wow,
1:07:06
Adam Curry: I was writing. And I
will say your protege comes in
1:07:10
and counters that, but then goes
off the rails.
1:07:13
Unknown: It is not Scott, that
you are a terrible lawyer. No
1:07:16
government, it's the government.
They're speaking as the
1:07:18
government not as themselves.
The government's not supposed to
1:07:21
do it looks like it's quashing
free speech. I think that's
1:07:23
their argument. I think we're
the argument. And even if
1:07:27
it's not a law, you're violating
First Amendment.
1:07:30
I think I think this report is
exactly who has to weigh in
1:07:33
here. But you know, the
Conservatives are also attacking
1:07:36
besides trying to silence
academics, as we've talked about
1:07:39
before,
1:07:39
Adam Curry: okay, here we go. So
they have not read any of the
1:07:42
court documents. They have no
idea that the government had
1:07:45
backend portals to Flagstaff and
we're mo coercing with threats
1:07:51
were threatened with threat
real, real threats, like we're
1:07:55
going to take away your
business. If you don't take
1:07:57
these posts down.
1:07:59
Unknown: The agency site says
cybersecurity and infrastructure
1:08:02
security agency. Thereafter, I
interviewed Jen easterly, who's
1:08:05
running it. This is the group
that's, you know, trying to
1:08:08
protect elections, the guy that
Trump fired for saying the
1:08:12
election wasn't stolen, if you
remember that. They're trying to
1:08:16
attack it, and it's funding the
hard right, Republicans. They
1:08:20
think they're gone too far and
are looking for ways to rein it
1:08:22
in. This is very typical Rand
Paul. But this is what he says,
1:08:27
says blatantly violated the
First Amendment and colluded
1:08:29
with big tech to censor the
speech of ordinary Americans.
1:08:33
You know, they're gonna do some
damage here. But Justice Alito,
1:08:37
Thomas and Gorsuch publicly
dissented on the court's
1:08:40
decision with Alito calling out
government censorship of private
1:08:43
speech, they are on this case,
they're gonna they're not given
1:08:46
up. It's it has the same vibe as
when they went after abortion
1:08:50
and everything else. I think
1:08:53
the same group of people
constantly bitching and moaning
1:08:56
that their speech is being
censored.
1:08:57
Yes, it's but I think it's Oh,
no, by a lot of these groups, to
1:09:02
hit academics, to hit government
to anybody who questions
1:09:07
anything, and because they're
not want a government agency
1:09:10
declaring an election, free and
clear, even though that's the
1:09:14
job of the government and things
like that. So this is what
1:09:17
Adam Curry: it's about, like
that's about the election. They
1:09:20
want to take down speech that
would be seen as myths or
1:09:24
disinformation, about their
their candidates, their faves,
1:09:29
whatever it is, and this rolls
right into, I don't blame you
1:09:33
and Horowitz because you had
part of it right about this meta
1:09:37
lawsuit. But this is exactly the
same thing. Listen, this
1:09:41
Unknown: morning, more than
three dozen states are taking
1:09:43
legal action demanding changes
on social media.
1:09:47
The focus is really on how Mehta
has designed its products to be
1:09:53
as addicting as possible. A
federal
1:09:55
lawsuit and parallels brought by
attorneys general in 42 states
1:10:00
claim Mehta, owner of Facebook
and Instagram is addicting
1:10:03
children and teenagers and
contributing to the youth mental
1:10:06
health crisis. The suits also
claim medical x data on kids
1:10:10
under 13. without their consent,
Dr. Delaney Ruston examined
1:10:15
teens social media and mental
health for her documentary
1:10:18
screenagers trilogy.
1:10:20
Many teens go to social media to
get support with their friends.
1:10:26
And yet, they end up staying on
it so long, they feel worse. The
1:10:30
state's
1:10:31
claim met unknowingly uses
algorithms to keep young users
1:10:34
on the platform and prey on the
vulnerabilities claiming the
1:10:38
company has ignored the sweeping
damage these platforms have
1:10:41
caused to the mental and
physical health of our nation's
1:10:44
youth.
1:10:44
It's things like infinite
scroll, the Like buttons, all
1:10:49
sorts of things that really
promote ongoing use and makes it
1:10:54
really hard for young people to
self regulate their use.
1:10:57
In response medicines. It has
developed more than 30 tools for
1:11:01
privacy and parental
supervision, adding we're
1:11:04
disappointed that instead of
working productively, with
1:11:06
companies across the industry to
create clear age appropriate
1:11:10
standards for the many apps
teens use. The attorneys general
1:11:13
have chosen this path. So this
is
1:11:15
Adam Curry: bull crap. And you
and Andrew had that right but
1:11:19
the reason for this
1:11:21
John C Dvorak: is what do we
have wrong? You said were a half
1:11:23
right? Yeah, you said that
1:11:25
Adam Curry: they wanted money.
They wanted money.
1:11:27
John C Dvorak: Everyone wants
money. No. Yes. A Shakedown for
1:11:30
more money listen to
1:11:31
Adam Curry: the states involved
Arizona California Colorado,
1:11:36
Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia.
Oh guess what's not there Texas?
1:11:41
This is blue states threatening
meta Facebook, Instagram etc. If
1:11:47
you don't play ball with us
during this election season like
1:11:50
you did the last time remember
Mark remember all that money you
1:11:53
put in remember how you got all
those $200 million
1:11:59
John C Dvorak: into 400 million
to Wisconsin?
1:12:01
Adam Curry: Thank you. This is a
threat they're threatened
1:12:05
directly because they can keep
this going forever it's 33
1:12:09
States I'm sure there'll be more
and it's all blue states John
1:12:14
they are this is all about the
elections they are so freaked
1:12:17
out that they are going to any
lengths any to coaching roles.
1:12:24
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna I'm
going to back off we didn't get
1:12:29
that that part No, but I'm not
blaming you can show me if you
1:12:32
can show me that. It's all blue
states which I believe you're
1:12:35
probably right. Yeah, it is in
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly what
1:12:39
it is. It is yeah, the putting
the screws to him.
1:12:43
Adam Curry: Of course they're
doing that with this with this.
1:12:47
With the Supreme Court. Stay I
mean, all of this.
1:12:50
John C Dvorak: They always had
the right for us to say almost
1:12:53
as addictive as cocaine. Oreos
are almost as addictive as
1:12:58
cocaine. Hold on
1:13:00
Unknown: a second now.
1:13:01
Adam Curry: I gotta get it. It's
this one.
1:13:03
Unknown: Oreos are just as
addictive as cocaine.
1:13:07
John C Dvorak: Just as
addictive. And let's
1:13:09
Adam Curry: not forget Elon, we
have to remember to discredit
1:13:12
his crap as a
1:13:13
Unknown: conflict between Israel
and Hamas escalates, the need
1:13:15
for factual information is
critical. But unfortunately,
1:13:19
many around the world are
turning to social media and
1:13:22
forums for information.
1:13:24
Adam Curry: You need to stick
with a trusted sources like
1:13:27
MSNBC.
1:13:29
Unknown: Some viral videos and
pictures purportedly showing the
1:13:31
violence in Israel in the
aftermath in Gaza are being
1:13:34
unmasked as fakes are from
totally different conflicts
1:13:37
around the world. It was already
difficult for users to separate
1:13:40
fact from fiction but it has
only gotten worse. In fact
1:13:43
nearly three quarters of the
most viral posts on X formerly
1:13:47
known as Twitter advancing
misinformation about the Israel
1:13:50
Hamas war are being pushed by so
called verified ex accounts you
1:13:55
know the ones with a little blue
Tex according to a recent
1:13:58
analysis by news good doesn't
mean
1:13:59
John C Dvorak: no company that x
doesn't mean anything Yeah, the
1:14:04
blue check doesn't mean anything
anymore that's just bought and
1:14:07
paid for
1:14:08
Adam Curry: right but that's
that's if you listen to what
1:14:10
she's saying. That's that's what
she like these are from Blue
1:14:13
checks elicit
1:14:14
Unknown: advancing
misinformation about the Israel
1:14:16
Hamas war are being pushed by so
called verified X accounts. You
1:14:21
know, the ones are the little
blue checks, according to a
1:14:23
recent analysis by news guard, a
nonpartisan company that tracks
1:14:27
false narratives online.
1:14:29
Adam Curry: Now, news guard
isn't this interesting. News
1:14:32
guard is being sued by news
guard is one of these companies
1:14:39
that gives you a nutrition label
on your content. And nutrition
1:14:45
label is Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
They're being sued by consortium
1:14:49
news for being targeted. As you
know, they they have no
1:14:54
reliability, they're not
trustworthy, which of course
1:14:56
immediately hurt this outfits
advertising, which is why I
1:15:00
legalizing is not a good idea.
But they also happen to have now
1:15:04
a little side gig from the
Pentagon Cyber Command who hired
1:15:09
them for about $80 million.
Whoo. So here we have a and
1:15:14
money is fungible. Here we have
a unit that is in charge of
1:15:20
labeling what content is
disinformation paid by the US
1:15:26
government? So this is rampant
what's going on here? But then
1:15:32
the obvious one and I am
surprised and I'm I'm ready for
1:15:36
the hate mail. Sandra ICU
clutching your pearls already.
1:15:41
Got some, some do's, he's not
going to read them. What the
1:15:45
Israeli Defense Forces did, I
think is despicable. I think is
1:15:52
outrageous when it ended the
world's media, the world's media
1:15:57
played into this and don't
understand that what the IDF
1:16:03
basically did here, and this has
nothing to do with blame Hamas,
1:16:07
Israel has nothing to do with
it. But when you put the world's
1:16:11
media into a theater, and show
them 45 minutes of horrific
1:16:17
killing, you don't think that
that's some kind of MK Ultra
1:16:21
that you're doing to the media.
1:16:23
Unknown: Yeah, very, very
difficult to watch. As you can
1:16:26
imagine, the Israeli army
invited journalists to a
1:16:28
screening of raw footage of
Paul's massacres carried out on
1:16:33
October the seventh third they
put together a 45 minute video
1:16:36
compiled from hundreds of hours
they said of footage from dash
1:16:41
cams, body cams worn by members
of her mass body cams from first
1:16:45
responders, mobile phone
footage, and very very
1:16:49
distressing indeed, I think
1:16:53
John C Dvorak: wearable things
body cams from Hamas.
1:16:57
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's all
this they basically Karate Kid
1:16:59
John C Dvorak: we went to
Holland Ross guys are rocking
1:17:01
around with body cam. Yes. The
police.
1:17:05
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Oh, yeah.
That's what are you talking
1:17:08
about? That's all that first
person shooter footage is all
1:17:11
on. It's all over telegram. All
over telegram. All of this
1:17:16
footage. It's it's what we've
all seen. Except of course, for
1:17:21
the baby being ripped out of a
mother's womb which was so
1:17:24
horrific they would not show the
video. They just told people
1:17:27
about it.
1:17:28
Unknown: One piece of footage
that really marked people
1:17:31
sitting in books sitting and
watching
1:17:33
John C Dvorak: again Stop stop.
So the by so Hamas Where's body
1:17:39
cams in case of a lawsuit? I
mean, there's got to be some
1:17:42
reason to do it. So in case they
get taken to court, this is some
1:17:46
actions that were atrocities and
1:17:48
Adam Curry: information
propaganda war at this point who
1:17:51
killed babies worse? That's what
this is about. It's this is why
1:17:56
I mean, it's disgusting. What is
happening here?
1:17:59
Unknown: Indeed, I think one
piece of footage that really
1:18:02
marked people.
1:18:03
Adam Curry: This is the big one
this is this is the the money
1:18:05
shot was sitting and sitting and
watching
1:18:08
Unknown: in the auditorium
showed a father running and
1:18:11
carrying his two sons in a
kibbutz to a shelter. And then
1:18:18
the father was killed. The two
sons run back to the kitchen.
1:18:24
And you can hear them screaming
in the kitchen on the footage.
1:18:29
Asking why they're alive. Where
where's their Mom, where's their
1:18:33
dad, and in the meantime, their
father's killer is stood next to
1:18:37
them helping himself to drink
from the fridge. So very, very
1:18:40
surreal, very awful. scenes. We
will also shown an audio, an
1:18:47
audio recording of a member of
Hamas using a phone the phone of
1:18:52
it of a dead Jewish woman to
call his parents in the Gaza
1:18:57
Strip to boast about how many
people he'd killed so a lot of
1:19:02
loud gasps in the auditorium
crying and a lot of people is
1:19:06
just simply unable to watch to
1:19:07
Adam Curry: the media was unable
to watch but they all saw it.
1:19:11
And the IDF shed light on a
horrifying account of the brutal
1:19:15
attack carried out by Hamas
militants on pregnant is under
1:19:18
pregnant Israeli woman and her
unborn child. IDF claimed in a
1:19:22
recent post on X that Hamas
militants ripped open the belly
1:19:26
of a pregnant woman beheaded her
unborn baby they further added
1:19:29
cannot share the photo of the
incident due to the guidelines
1:19:32
of X and they didn't show it in
the theater. This is this is how
1:19:37
terrorism works. And they just
use if true Hamas body cams and
1:19:43
their terrorism videos like the
beheading videos we will one
1:19:46
John C Dvorak: more one more
question. So Hamas goes in with
1:19:52
body cams so they can document
their atrocities and end up as
1:19:56
war criminals and be found
guilty so and Somehow they
1:20:00
dropped the body cams
1:20:02
Adam Curry: they got off dead
guys they got them off the dead
1:20:04
Hamas that's that's the claim,
1:20:06
John C Dvorak: oh the dead how
much they can but
1:20:09
Adam Curry: they also put the
it's all over telegram all of
1:20:12
these videos from Hamas are this
is this is what it is this is
1:20:16
why people are all spun up
because it's hard to avoid it
1:20:20
everyone will if you say
everyone will send you a tick
1:20:24
tock or YouTube or straight to a
telegram of these atrocities and
1:20:30
they look pretty real. So I'm
not going to doubt that. But
1:20:32
that's the whole point. That's
what the beheadings were back in
1:20:37
the 2012. I want to say, with
ISIS and all of this, this is
1:20:44
the entire point. And then we
even had, what was this was
1:20:50
another good one. A good one is
one way of looking at but before
1:20:55
I get to that, what Israel then
does, and again, it's it's all
1:20:59
trauma based manipulation. You
know, oh, they're worse than we
1:21:05
are. Come on. Are you kidding
me? Everyone sucks in this.
1:21:09
Everybody sucks. It's all
horrible.
1:21:11
John C Dvorak: No, the trauma
based thing, which was funny
1:21:15
thing, I was just watching the
movie recently because they,
1:21:17
they came up with a series about
it, kind of a british series,
1:21:20
which was six parter that was
quite good, called The Ipcress
1:21:23
File. And The Ipcress File is
based on the notion that you
1:21:28
traumatize somebody to get them
into a semi hypnotic state, and
1:21:33
then you go, you haven't do what
you want.
1:21:35
Adam Curry: That's exactly what
they did with the media. That's
1:21:38
what it sounds like exactly what
they did.
1:21:40
John C Dvorak: Like it Chris
file, you know, 2023.
1:21:45
Adam Curry: And then then they
move right into this is I looked
1:21:50
it up. This is against the
Geneva Convention
1:21:53
Unknown: October 7, a few
minutes before the assault on
1:21:56
southern Israel began about 1000
Hamas militants get ready. Most
1:22:01
would be killed during the
operation, but about chain would
1:22:04
be taken prisoner by Israeli
security forces. On Tuesday,
1:22:09
Israeli police issued several
videos of what they say are
1:22:12
interrogations of the men to
yield a number of vital details,
1:22:16
particularly on the orders given
1:22:18
Adam Curry: not that anybody
cares, but it's against the
1:22:20
Geneva Convention to film and
identify prisoners of war. Okay,
1:22:28
is I mean, fine. No one sticking
to anything. And then what do we
1:22:33
do? Okay, you've seen the
videos, you've seen it all
1:22:36
happening. It's all over then in
the Middle East. This horrible
1:22:39
things. We've got Hamas
terrorists, ripping babies out
1:22:43
and then beheading the baby.
Guess what, everybody, US
1:22:46
intelligence
1:22:47
Unknown: officials are warning
that Hamas and Hezbollah
1:22:49
militants may be trying to enter
the United States through the
1:22:53
southern border. border agents
have been warned that people may
1:22:56
travel from the Middle East, to
look out for men who are
1:23:00
traveling alone wearing military
gear.
1:23:03
Adam Curry: So they're coming
across the border, they're hit
1:23:06
with the military gear. That's
right. They're walking around in
1:23:09
fatigues, and they're good to go
and no one's gonna notice. And
1:23:12
here, here is the latest psyop
of my thing this is I'm just
1:23:16
going to make a slight
prediction about what may happen
1:23:19
next in the Middle East based
upon this story.
1:23:21
Unknown: This is material which
was found on the body of one of
1:23:26
those sadistic villains it's al
Qaeda material, official al
1:23:31
Qaeda material
1:23:32
Adam Curry: it's if look it has
a seal of approval. It's
1:23:34
official. It's official Shulk al
Qaeda material to stamp it does
1:23:38
it has a logo it has a stamp
it's in plastic, it's Oh, yeah,
1:23:42
it's official.
1:23:43
Unknown: With any with ISIS, Al
Qaeda and Hamas, this is what
1:23:47
we're dealing with. And in the
in this material. There were
1:23:51
instructions, how to produce
chemical weapons. This is this
1:23:57
speaks about ASAN and it speaks
about various chemicals that
1:24:06
come out and produce chemical
weapons. Simple as that.
1:24:09
Adam Curry: Okay, we've already
had the oops, it was it was the
1:24:13
Hamas rocket that exploded upon
the hospital. Book, why is there
1:24:17
no ground invasion? Because this
is a complicated enemy. They're
1:24:21
in tunnels, there's all kinds of
complications for a ground war.
1:24:26
What would the chances be if
this official al Qaeda material
1:24:31
turns out that oh man that gas
themselves?
1:24:35
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
there's there's a Middle Eastern
1:24:38
newsletter that came out sketchy
and I was reading about how
1:24:44
they're the Israelis are
planning to use poison gas with
1:24:49
the help of the Army Corps of
Engineers or some one of our
1:24:53
boys there you go. Take gas out
the the all the time was that,
1:25:00
you know, 5500 miles of tunnels
I don't know how they're gonna
1:25:03
manage to do that but okay. And
they're going to use poison gas
1:25:06
or nerve gases. It was
specifically said official
1:25:09
alkine I think I think there was
pushback on that. So now the way
1:25:13
to do it
1:25:14
Adam Curry: I wonder why.
1:25:16
John C Dvorak: So I think the
way to go and I think you may
1:25:18
have stumbled on it is day hacks
had been storing
1:25:22
Adam Curry: Yes. Camera gas.
Yeah, it was an accident.
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: It was an blew up
the gas blows up in the tunnels
1:25:30
and then the toxic nerve gas
kills them all, by accident of
1:25:34
their own, because they're a
bunch of incompetent Boneheads.
1:25:37
Adam Curry: So we're involved
we're in this and ABC This Week,
1:25:41
Jonathan, Carl had our our
Secretary of Defense Lloyd
1:25:46
Austin on on only two clips, but
they're important. We heard
1:25:49
Unknown: some pretty stark words
from King Abdullah of Jordan,
1:25:52
again, an American ally, no
friend of Hamas, obviously, but
1:25:57
very critical of what the
Israelis have done so far. Let
1:26:00
me bring up what he said. He
said the relentless bombing
1:26:03
campaign underway in Gaza as we
speak is cruel and
1:26:06
unconscionable on every level it
is collective punishment on a
1:26:09
besieged and helpless people it
is a flagrant violation of
1:26:13
international humanitarian law
and a war crime is Israel doing
1:26:17
enough to protect or to ensure
that innocent civilians aren't
1:26:22
getting getting killed in this
1:26:25
good we encourage them at every
every opportunity John to make
1:26:30
sure that we're accounting for
those civilians that are in the
1:26:33
in the battle space battle we're
providing corridors for them to
1:26:38
leave the battle space if
necessary to space that they're
1:26:41
allowing humanitarian assistance
to get into that that space as
1:26:44
well.
1:26:45
Adam Curry: Oh, so the space get
into space? How do we listen to
1:26:48
this? You will not believe what
this Yahoo says next.
1:26:51
Unknown: Lieutenant Colonel
Peter Lerner one of the Israeli
1:26:54
military spokesman told ABC This
Week that if Hamas places a
1:27:00
rocket in the courtyards of
schools we're going to strike
1:27:04
that what I mean how what's your
sense of these are obviously
1:27:07
incredibly difficult decisions
but is a school a legitimate
1:27:12
target? If Hamas is using it
effectively? For cover? How do
1:27:16
you How would you handle that
you dealt with things like this
1:27:20
with in mozal?
1:27:22
Certainly, you have to evaluate
the target the value of the
1:27:25
target who's on who's on that
was at that location? And we
1:27:30
always have we always get legal
advice from our lawyers who are
1:27:36
with us on the battlefield
1:27:41
Adam Curry: Hold on a second
I'll pull the trigger. Hey, Joe.
1:27:44
Joe, check the books is this
legal? Can we do this we shoot
1:27:48
these people is okay on these
people. We can kill or we can
1:27:51
kill these people. Is it good?
We got the lawyers here.
1:27:53
Everybody's good sign off.
TripIt we're good. Good to go.
1:27:56
Unknown: But to your point each
target John needs to be assessed
1:28:01
a carefully assessed and we need
to do everything we can to make
1:28:04
sure that civilians are not, are
not injured
1:28:07
Adam Curry: ghouls, all of them
ghouls. We're gonna the funny
1:28:11
thing lawyers on the
battlefield. Well, they
1:28:13
John C Dvorak: had this
situation cropped up before the
1:28:16
show before our 16 years ago,
during the Bush administration,
1:28:21
I think I remember this. This is
when they had Mullah Omar, the
1:28:25
guy who was the creep that was
running Afghanistan's Taliban at
1:28:29
the time. He was a horrible
person. And they had I think it
1:28:33
was Clinton. They had him in
there. Now it was after Clinton.
1:28:36
It had to be bush. They had him
in their sights to do they found
1:28:41
his his jeep. He's driving
around. They had him in his
1:28:44
sights. They could have blown
him to smithereens. And the
1:28:47
lawyer said no, the lawyer said
no. Hey,
1:28:51
Unknown: Joe. Joe, can you take
a look at the scope? Well, yeah,
1:28:54
can we can we ask this guy is
okay.
1:28:58
Come on.
1:28:59
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I'm
looking back on it. I'm thinking
1:29:02
this bullcrap. Because if you
recall, the Snowden was a
1:29:06
Snowden or Assange, who was
Assange, I guess, that released
1:29:11
those videos of the guys in the
helicopters randomly. Just
1:29:14
shooting him just killing him.
They there's a journalist says
1:29:18
she, we can get him. Yeah. And
they just blow these guys up
1:29:21
walking around the street.
There's no lawyer and all this
1:29:23
nonsense, exactly. Thank you.
And I'm convinced that that now
1:29:27
I'm thinking back on the days of
Bush, with the lawyers and No,
1:29:31
he can't kill Omar. Now because
nobody they said somebody else
1:29:35
made a decision for some other
reason had nothing to do with
1:29:38
lawyers. Blaming the lawyers is
unbelievable is about as low as
1:29:42
you can go.
1:29:45
Adam Curry: So then you heard
him talk about the corridors and
1:29:48
the battle space. So they're all
at the United Nations. They're
1:29:51
on the Security Council, and
they can't decide on how we're
1:29:55
going to do what are we going to
do? Do we should we just try and
1:29:58
call for peace? How about how
about an I haven't idea, crazy
1:30:00
idea. My idea is, can we just
all love each other and get
1:30:05
along? Let's stop this. And
let's have a little reset. We
1:30:09
all know there's a two state
solution thing, but there's a
1:30:11
lot of issues. Can we stop this?
No, no, no says America
1:30:16
Unknown: now rival US and
Russian resolutions addressing
1:30:19
Israeli actions in Gaza both
failed at the UN Security
1:30:22
Council. One of the texts call
for ceasefire, the other oppose.
1:30:26
For more on the story, we can
bring in our international
1:30:29
affairs editor caravan.
gorgeous, sunny Catherine. Great
1:30:31
to see you. So it's all come
down to semantics, hasn't it?
1:30:34
Yes, it's really a battle
between those humanitarian
1:30:37
pauses and a full blown
ceasefire. And you've seen the
1:30:41
UN Secretary General, many Arab
leaders call for an outright a
1:30:45
ceasefire. And as you said,
those two resolutions The reason
1:30:49
partly the reason why they
failed is that one was vetoed,
1:30:52
because it called for a
humanitarian pause. The other
1:30:55
one was vetoed because it called
for a ceasefire and those
1:30:57
countries cannot agree and
you're seeing that also play out
1:31:01
in the European Union with the
debate of how to call what
1:31:06
they're calling for those stops
or halts in the conflict. It
1:31:11
seems according to a potential a
final draft statement by the EU
1:31:16
that they've possibly agreed on
calling it a humanitarian
1:31:20
corridors and pauses. Really, I
stopped
1:31:25
Adam Curry: for a second hold on
a second. The lawyers say these
1:31:28
people okay. All right,
everybody.
1:31:31
Unknown: You're seeing this
debate and the United States
1:31:34
were really the first ones to
publicly spell out why they were
1:31:38
so opposed to a ceasefire, John
Kirby of the National Security
1:31:43
Council saying that the only
actor that benefits from a
1:31:47
ceasefire right now would be
Hamas. And that is why they're
1:31:51
opposed to it.
1:31:52
Adam Curry: We can't have a
ceasefire. No, I'm Kirby Rear
1:31:56
Admiral Kirby. I want war, war.
war with Iran. So it was a US
1:32:03
war against Iran. Possible.
1:32:07
Unknown: I think what we want to
see more than anything, Wolf is
1:32:10
no widening, conflict, no
deepening of it. And we continue
1:32:15
to send a strong message to
actors in the region, including
1:32:18
yours. But if you're thinking
about jumping in here, you're
1:32:21
thinking about deepening and
widening and escalating, don't
1:32:24
do it, we will take our national
security interests very, very
1:32:27
seriously in the region. And
we've added to the military
1:32:30
capabilities to make sure that
we can do that
1:32:32
Adam Curry: this guy is creaming
his shorts, hey, don't do it.
1:32:35
Don't do it. Don't do it. You
who don't do it, don't do it.
1:32:38
Iran. Well, we're ready for it.
Don't do it. CNN has
1:32:40
Unknown: learned that the US has
intelligence right now that
1:32:43
Iranian backed militia groups
are planning right on cue wolf
1:32:46
to further ramp up attacks
against American forces in the
1:32:50
Middle East. What is the Biden
administration prepared to do to
1:32:54
combat this?
1:32:55
Well, without speaking to a
specific intelligence, this is
1:32:58
watching very, very closely. In
fact, today, we were very clear
1:33:02
publicly that we know Ron's back
in these groups, that they're
1:33:06
given him the resources
training, the encouragement, in
1:33:10
direct contact with the IRGC,
the Coots, forces at World
1:33:13
Revolutionary Guard, to conduct
these attacks on our troops. We
1:33:18
will Purdue what we have to do
to protect our forces and our
1:33:21
facilities in the region that
will continue. And we've sent a
1:33:24
strong signal to Iran through
the additional military
1:33:27
capabilities that we're putting
in the region that we have
1:33:30
national security interests writ
large across Georgia, and we're
1:33:34
going to protect and defend them
as well.
1:33:35
Adam Curry: That's right. Thank
you very much. We need to switch
1:33:39
over to Fox for a moment just to
get the message. In
1:33:41
Unknown: fact, I would say bom
bom, bom, Miguel.
1:33:44
Adam Curry: Just want to make
sure his message is clear. Yes.
1:33:47
John C Dvorak: So why do we have
bases in Syria? What? What gets
1:33:53
flabbergasted when they say
this?
1:33:55
Adam Curry: It's on the list.
1:33:57
John C Dvorak: We have Syria
bases in Syria. Country. We're
1:34:00
not welcome in. And wait, wait,
I thought we left Iraq?
1:34:04
Adam Curry: No, we're still
under attack. Some of our bases
1:34:07
are under attack, but that's
irrelevant. We're going we got
1:34:11
Antony Blinken at the United
Nations. Let me just wag my
1:34:15
finger. Well, if it wasn't
enough on CNN, I know you all
1:34:18
watch CNN, you sand bunnies
watching CNN over there and
1:34:21
around? Let me just say it.
1:34:22
Unknown: Let me say this before
this council. And let me say
1:34:25
what we've consistently said to
Iranian officials, through other
1:34:30
channels. The United States does
not see conflict with Iran. We
1:34:35
do not want this war to widen
but by its mind or its proxies,
1:34:41
attack us personnel anywhere and
make no mistake. We will defend
1:34:46
our people. We will defend our
security swiftly and decisively.
1:34:52
Adam Curry: Do these people are
war mongers get them all out?
1:34:56
Ah, it's just what are you
doing? Are you starting a war
1:34:59
yourself? Oh, your own.
1:35:01
John C Dvorak: Sorry. I have a
funny clip. Good. Good. I need
1:35:06
one. But this is McConnell. He
was on Face The Nation. And he
1:35:13
says something I was like,
1:35:15
Adam Curry: Yes, I have
McConnell. I have a good
1:35:17
McConnell Clip to play this
1:35:19
John C Dvorak: thing. This is
like what?
1:35:20
Unknown: Yeah. For any military
aid that's going to Israel right
1:35:24
now. Do you think there needs to
be need to be strings attached?
1:35:28
Israel's our strongest ally on
the world? We crossed and we
1:35:34
have a very tight relationship
with them both on the
1:35:37
intelligence side and the
military side. So like to kind
1:35:42
of oversight we're talking about
For Ukraine, for example, would
1:35:47
be necessary for Israel.
1:35:50
Adam Curry: Hold on oversight
1:35:52
John C Dvorak: over the
oversight part. Since when is
1:35:56
Israel our number one strongest
ally in the world more than
1:36:02
Canada, more than five eyes, any
of them? Great Britain more than
1:36:07
the EU?
1:36:08
Adam Curry: Ever since he
started stroking out he's been
1:36:10
taught he's been talking weird.
So from the same face, the
1:36:14
nation interview now this is
about Ukraine. He says the quiet
1:36:18
part out loud about these
hundreds of billions of dollars
1:36:22
that we're spending on Ukraine,
1:36:24
Unknown: you've said that you
believe there is enough
1:36:27
oversight of aid to Ukraine, why
hasn't that persuaded some
1:36:30
members of the of the Republican
caucus
1:36:32
if you look at the Ukraine
assistance, let's let's talk
1:36:36
about where the money is really
going, Oh, someone grabbed match
1:36:41
a significant portion of its
being spent in the United States
1:36:44
and 38 different states oh,
we're replacing the weapons that
1:36:49
we sent to Ukraine with more
modern that crap that doesn't
1:36:52
work weapons, so we're
rebuilding our industrial base.
1:36:56
That's what President Biden is
seeking to do, which is correct
1:36:59
no Americans are getting killed
in Ukraine.
1:37:02
John C Dvorak: We are yet
another one rebuilding our
1:37:05
Unknown: industrial base
1:37:07
Adam Curry: where we rebuilding
our industrial base on what I'm
1:37:11
John C Dvorak: doing is instead
of doing what we would normally
1:37:15
do, which is take the old crap
and and destroy it, you know,
1:37:19
blow it out, put it in a burn
pit. We're giving it to Ukraine
1:37:23
to us. Is what he's trying to
say yes. But he also said that
1:37:28
the EU has given Ukraine 90
billion and I don't see find any
1:37:34
evidence of that.
1:37:35
Adam Curry: No, I see much more.
1:37:38
John C Dvorak: No, I I think
we're given all the money. I
1:37:40
think the EU is like more doing
shifting you
1:37:46
Adam Curry: know, that's that's
that's their number. They're
1:37:49
liars. They're liars. They're
all liars. But they're all
1:37:55
liars. They're all all of them
are like it's it's it's it's
1:37:59
unbelievable. And And meanwhile,
we're all just arguing about
1:38:04
whose baby was killed worse. Get
Oh, I
1:38:11
John C Dvorak: got a Hamas
report. This is a kind of a cute
1:38:14
humorous one. This is a moss
report was an earlier one quote.
1:38:18
Adam Curry: Oh goodness.
1:38:19
Unknown: This video shows Hamas
terrorists trying to infiltrate
1:38:23
Israel by sea, but Israeli
forces quickly neutralize the
1:38:27
threat. The video released by
Israeli forces on Tuesday also
1:38:31
shows them striking other Hamas
targets including a weapons
1:38:34
storage facility. The IDF
spokesperson on Wednesday said
1:38:38
Hamas terrorists are taking
advantage of the Gazan people
1:38:41
minutes limited.
1:38:42
They're using your homes,
schools, hospitals underground
1:38:46
underneath your homes, next to
hospitals in schools. They are
1:38:50
hiding there for your safety.
Don't let them use you go south
1:38:55
south of Wadi Gaza.
1:38:57
Also on Wednesday, Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said
1:39:01
Israel has already killed 1000s
of terrorists and Israeli forces
1:39:05
are currently preparing for
ground offensive. According to
1:39:08
the Hamas run health ministry,
more than 6500 Palestinians have
1:39:13
been killed and over 16,000
wounded. More than 1400 people
1:39:17
in Israel have been killed, most
of whom were killed when Hamas
1:39:21
terrorists conducted a surprise
attack on people attending a
1:39:24
Music Festival on October 7. The
war is now in its 19th day since
1:39:28
that terrorist attack and
Israeli forces are determined to
1:39:32
defeat Hamas and ensure that
another Hamas terrorist attack
1:39:35
can never happen again. But some
world leaders are critical of
1:39:39
Israel's operations, including
Turkish president Tayyip
1:39:42
Erdogan,
1:39:43
Israel's attacks on Gaza both in
terms of those who carry them
1:39:46
out and in terms of those who
support them, or a situation
1:39:50
that signify both murderousness
and mental illness.
1:39:54
Adam Curry: Oh, mental. Send
some Prozac. Yeah. Then I love
1:40:02
these Turkish reports TR t
because they give you they give
1:40:05
you a pretty straight up the way
they're thinking. This is a TRT
1:40:09
reporter and this looked like it
was in the, in the Rose Garden,
1:40:14
asking President Biden a
question about the numbers
1:40:16
Unknown: in the 18 days since
Hamas Hamas killed 1400
1:40:20
Israelis, the Hamas controlled
Gaza health ministry says
1:40:23
Israeli forces have killed over
6000 Palestinians, including
1:40:27
2700 killed children. You've
previously asked Netanyahu to
1:40:30
minimize civilian casualties. Do
these numbers say to you that
1:40:34
he's ignoring that message?
1:40:36
What did I say to me is I have
no notion that the Palestinians
1:40:39
are telling you the truth about
how many people are killed. I'm
1:40:41
sure innocence had been killed.
And as the price of waging a
1:40:45
war, I think we should be
incredibly careful. I think
1:40:48
we're not we Israeli should be
incredibly careful. Oops,
1:40:52
Adam Curry: oops, not we were
not we're Israeli should be
1:40:56
incredibly careful not to kill
children.
1:41:00
Unknown: I think we should be
incredibly careful. I think
1:41:03
we're not we Israel should be
incredibly careful to be sure
1:41:07
that they're focusing on going
after the folks that are the
1:41:10
propagating this war against
Israel. And it's against their
1:41:16
interest when that doesn't
happen. But I have no confidence
1:41:20
in the number that the
Palestinians are using.
1:41:22
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, there's
liars, liars, we've dead we've
1:41:26
killed less babies, and they
have been no be real. It's all a
1:41:30
numbers game,
1:41:31
Unknown: turning the page to
what has happened during the
1:41:33
following two weeks. UNICEF says
1524 children have been killed
1:41:41
in the Gaza Strip during these
bombings. Why isn't the US
1:41:45
calling for at least a temporary
ceasefire? Because we
1:41:49
Adam Curry: like killing people.
We like war. We like money,
1:41:51
money money.
1:41:52
Unknown: First. Margaret?
1:41:54
Adam Curry: Margaret, I'm so
exasperated by this question,
1:41:57
Margaret,
1:41:58
Unknown: when I hear the stories
when I see the pictures of young
1:42:03
children who have lost the lies
in this conflict of a Masters
1:42:08
making, whoever they are,
wherever they are, whether
1:42:10
they're Palestinians, whether
they're Israelis, whether
1:42:13
they're they're Jews, or
Muslims. It hits me and I know
1:42:17
it hits virtually everyone right
in the heart,
1:42:22
Adam Curry: having them think
and actually grab some
1:42:24
Adrenochrome from him.
1:42:25
Unknown: And that's why it's so
important to do everything
1:42:28
possible to protect them. And
why it's so important to do
1:42:33
everything possible to get
assistance to those who needed
1:42:36
Adam Curry: but we won't blink
and yeah, blink it but we won't
1:42:39
do a ceasefire. Now we can't
call for a ceasefire. No, no, we
1:42:43
can do a Yeah.
1:42:45
John C Dvorak: what he just said
and then veto any notion of his
1:42:48
Adam Curry: vetoing fire. Yes,
1:42:49
John C Dvorak: that's horrible,
halting,
1:42:51
Adam Curry: embarrassing.
1:42:52
John C Dvorak: It's
embarrassing, embarrassing.
1:42:54
Unknown: Yeah. One of my
colleagues, who is on the ground
1:42:58
in Israel and has traveled to
the West Bank conducted an
1:43:00
interview with Mr. Mustafa
Barghouti appalled Palestinian
1:43:04
politician, I'm sure, you know,
he said he didn't understand why
1:43:08
President Biden when he was in
Israel did not say enough is
1:43:12
enough. You wanted to respond
and you responded, you killed
1:43:15
4000 Palestinians stop. Instead,
you're encouraging a ground
1:43:20
invasion.
1:43:21
Adam Curry: This is CBS. Um,
these are these are good
1:43:23
questions.
1:43:24
Unknown: How do you respond to
Enough is enough?
1:43:28
Adam Curry: Well, Margaret,
really marked
1:43:31
Unknown: Enough is enough.
Should have been the case.
1:43:35
Adam Curry: Wow. Enough, was
enough.
1:43:41
Unknown: Enough is enough.
1:43:43
Adam Curry: should have been.
It's never enough. Margaret, the
1:43:46
case with
1:43:47
Unknown: with Hamas two weeks
ago, it would be good to hear
1:43:52
the entire world, speaking
clearly. And with one voice
1:43:57
about the actions that Hamas
took about the slaughter of
1:44:00
people about the fact that that
should be absolutely
1:44:04
intolerable, unacceptable to
anyone, anywhere, any country,
1:44:09
any people.
1:44:13
Adam Curry: Yet veto all
ceasefire. And I understand I
1:44:16
understand Israel's position, I
understand that I bring
1:44:19
John C Dvorak: up the vetoes at
the ceasefires that we've done.
1:44:23
Adam Curry: No, here's the last
the last clip of this series in
1:44:26
Unknown: terms of US interests
in the region, one of America's
1:44:29
closest allies, the King of
Jordan, gave an impassioned
1:44:33
speech saying Palestinian lives
seem to matter less than Israeli
1:44:37
ones. Our lives matter less than
other lives. The application of
1:44:41
international laws optional and
human rights appear to have
1:44:44
boundaries based on races and
religions. That's a warning from
1:44:48
one of America's closest friends
in the region.
1:44:52
Adam Curry: That white man who
is our friend in the region
1:44:54
everybody's our best friend, our
strongest friend, our closest
1:44:58
friend by
1:44:59
Unknown: this is is a dangerous
message to be sending and it
1:45:02
could have blowback. Are you
concerned?
1:45:05
Margaret? Every life,
1:45:08
Adam Curry: every life matters.
Some sort of a tale. The
1:45:12
Margaret thing? Yeah. Adam. Yes.
John. Paul. Yes, John. Listen,
1:45:17
John, I'm telling you, John,
1:45:19
Unknown: Israeli, Jewish,
Muslim, Arab, every life has
1:45:24
equal worth. When I see the
reports when I see the
1:45:28
photographs, when I hear the
stories of young children,
1:45:34
Palestinian children who've been
killed or injured, it hits me
1:45:38
right in the gut to Sure does.
This is on Hamas. And the fact
1:45:44
is, Hamas doesn't represent the
Palestinian people. It doesn't
1:45:47
represent their just cause it
doesn't represent their
1:45:51
aspiration and legitimate
aspiration for a state of their
1:45:56
own. On the contrary, it does
everything to make life worse,
1:46:02
and more miserable.
1:46:03
Adam Curry: You know, that's
interesting. I'm just realizing
1:46:05
sounds
1:46:05
John C Dvorak: like, like a
character in a Nazi movie Up.
1:46:10
You avail big loose tent, Villa
jazz. Each of your digressions
1:46:16
Adam Curry: I just realized that
Biden in that answer said
1:46:19
Palestinians and not Hamas.
Everyone's Oh, no, the Hamas is
1:46:25
different from the Palestinians,
but not not the Biden. Let me
1:46:28
listen to that.
1:46:28
Unknown: In the 18 days since
Hamas, Hamas killed 1400
1:46:32
Israelis, the Hamas controlled
Gaza health ministry says
1:46:35
Israeli forces have killed over
6000 Palestinians, including
1:46:39
2700 killed children. You've
previously asked Netanyahu to
1:46:43
minimize civilian casualties. Do
these numbers say to you that he
1:46:46
is ignoring that message?
1:46:48
What do they say to me is I have
no notion that Palestinians are
1:46:51
telling the truth about how many
people are killed.
1:46:53
Adam Curry: He didn't say Hamas
he said Palestinians man
1:46:56
Palestinians, you can't trust
them.
1:46:59
John C Dvorak: Well, I know but
I'll make pushback on that. The
1:47:03
debt and those numbers came from
the palace specifically from the
1:47:07
Palestinian health No,
1:47:09
Adam Curry: no, no, that's not
what you said. Listen to what
1:47:12
she says
1:47:12
John C Dvorak: what she said but
know what she said is one thing
1:47:15
he knows numbers game.
1:47:16
Adam Curry: Oh, now Biden knows
what he's doing.
1:47:22
John C Dvorak: Well, you always
got to bring back Rubin break
1:47:25
up.
1:47:26
Unknown: All across the Middle
East and around the world. We've
1:47:28
seen massive demonstrations in
solidarity with Palestinians. In
1:47:33
London, over 100,000 people took
to the streets of the British
1:47:37
capital demanding an end to
Israel's war in Gaza. There's
1:47:41
also been similar scenes in Arab
capitals from sunnah in war torn
1:47:45
Yemen, to Cairo where the
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah
1:47:48
Al Sisi called for a quote, Day
of Rage just hours after his
1:47:52
phone call with President Biden
earlier this week, was a phone
1:47:56
call in which a deal was reached
between Egypt the US and Israel
1:48:01
to allow 20 trucks of
desperately needed humanitarian
1:48:04
aid into the Gaza strip which
started arriving only yesterday
1:48:09
on the Israeli occupied West
Bank the violence there
1:48:12
Adam Curry: isn't this is this
is what blows my mind just as a
1:48:14
human being just not being jaded
by being submerged and stuff
1:48:19
like this for 16 years. Somehow
we all agree oh, let's just stop
1:48:24
for a second we got okay. We got
10 hours everybody. No bombing
1:48:28
no shelling go in. Okay, we got
some aid in there. All right,
1:48:32
back to fighting. It's just as
blows my mind how we just
1:48:36
couldn't step over that. Just
some evil stuff, man is
1:48:40
Unknown: only getting worse. We
were at one protests where we
1:48:45
witnessed Israeli snipers shoot
at least three Palestinians. Now
1:48:49
efforts to create a Palestinian
state have been at a standstill
1:48:53
for years now, largely because
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
1:48:56
Netanyahu successive hard right
governments have been firmly
1:49:00
opposed to it. And while the
Biden administration continues
1:49:03
to back calls for a peace
process that would lead to a two
1:49:06
state solution. It's done very
little practically and
1:49:10
diplomatically to advance that
goal. And after Hamas is brutal
1:49:14
attack and a looming Israeli
ground war in Gaza. It's a goal
1:49:18
that seems even further away
than ever
1:49:21
Adam Curry: now. Right? Well,
that's dramatic. Here's the Al
1:49:23
Jazeera version of that. And
then um, I think we're done.
1:49:27
John C Dvorak: But I gotta
cover.
1:49:28
Unknown: The Israel Gaza war has
sent shockwaves rippling across
1:49:31
the Middle East and far beyond.
This is Yemen, itself scarred by
1:49:37
a decade of conflict. The
strength of feeling here is
1:49:40
immense. In Jordan, vast crowds
master the capital among the
1:49:50
country's home to 3 million
Palestinians. And these were the
1:49:55
scenes in Algeria.
1:50:02
For the first time since the
Arab Spring, demonstrators in
1:50:06
the Egyptian capital, Cairo
returned in large numbers to
1:50:09
Tahrir Square, while others
crowded the cities as our
1:50:13
mosques. And this protest is
just a microcosm of Egypt, a
1:50:18
show of unity with the
Palestinians. Country after
1:50:22
country, fury, Crieff
indignation, what many across
1:50:27
the Muslim world regard as the
collective punishment of 2
1:50:30
million civilians by Israel in
the Indonesian capital Jakarta,
1:50:35
like so many other protests. It
is the United States Embassy
1:50:39
where demonstrators gather,
President Biden and his Western
1:50:43
allies have been fiercely
criticized for that unequivocal
1:50:46
support of the Israeli
government.
1:50:49
Indonesia back the offer of
Tuesday's solution for both
1:50:53
Palestinians and Israel, sharing
the land together for peace. But
1:50:57
that's not a solution because
Israel is an invader
1:51:01
in Germany and France, home to
the European Union's largest
1:51:04
Jewish and Muslim communities.
Demonstrators defied ongoing
1:51:08
bans on Palestinian protests,
leading to violent clashes with
1:51:12
police in Berlin. Many blame the
EU than Europe's former colonial
1:51:17
powers who shaped the Middle
East for choosing sides in a
1:51:21
conflict that's far from black
and white. As the crisis
1:51:25
deepens, Qatar is playing a
pivotal diplomatic role. This is
1:51:30
the capital Doha of Palestinian
sympathies are strong. And while
1:51:34
the cycle of violence and
repression continues, millions
1:51:38
are now demanding Enough is
enough.
1:51:41
Adam Curry: This is just not
going to end well, for Western
1:51:44
Europe for the United States is
going to be a horrible, horrible
1:51:49
period of time,
1:51:51
John C Dvorak: usually to when
they keep Doha, Qatar out of you
1:51:55
know, they minimize their part
in this sure they're big
1:52:00
supporters of Hamas. They'll
give them money for what they
1:52:04
have there. Guy, the head of
Hamas is there right as we
1:52:07
speak,
1:52:07
Adam Curry: from what I
understand boots on the ground
1:52:09
is that Lebanon is being
attacked from the south
1:52:13
relentlessly right now. By I
guess our lawyers, lawyers, and
1:52:20
we have to come up with them.
You know, like we have Keef as
1:52:22
the official pronunciation, is
it Hezbollah or Hezbollah? I
1:52:26
mean, we've got to come up with
the official
1:52:28
John C Dvorak: should point I
have to do a couple of last
1:52:31
clips. This is the Gaza Biden
China, Australia, they bring it
1:52:37
all together report it from NTD.
1:52:39
Unknown: as tensions rise in the
Middle East President Biden
1:52:42
today stressing the strategic
importance of the Indo Pacific,
1:52:46
he tells Australian Prime
Minister Anthony Albanese that
1:52:49
their alliance is
1:52:50
an anchor to peace and
prosperity the unit Pacific and
1:52:54
Biden
1:52:55
directly warning Beijing that
his latest aggressive actions in
1:52:58
the South China Sea could
trigger the involvement of US
1:53:01
troops.
1:53:02
Just this past week, the PRC
vessels act as dangerously and
1:53:06
unlawfully any attack on the
Filipino aircraft vessels or
1:53:10
armed forces will invoke a mute
our mutual defense treaty with
1:53:14
the Philippines
1:53:15
but it says is not looking for
conflicts but both leaders
1:53:18
emphasize the need to compete
with Beijing. Biden also vowed
1:53:22
to get more funding for the
orcas deal to get Australia
1:53:25
nuclear power submarines viewed
to counter China's military
1:53:31
ambitions in the Pacific.
Meanwhile, as Israel prepares
1:53:34
for a ground offensive into Gaza
President Biden today lays out
1:53:38
this as his vision about what
future he seeks.
1:53:42
Israelis and Palestinians
deserve to live side by sides,
1:53:45
ensuring Hamas can no longer
terrorize Israel.
1:53:49
And while Biden urges Israel to
be incredibly careful to focus
1:53:53
on going after her loss and
avoid hurting civilians, he says
1:53:56
he has quote, no confidence and
the casualty numbers being
1:54:00
reported by the Hamas run Gaza
health ministry.
1:54:04
Adam Curry: Again, Hamas health
ministry
1:54:07
John C Dvorak: Yes, I was I was
ill informed the Hamas. So he
1:54:12
should have said him. You should
have so your earlier point is
1:54:16
valid right on the money now
call them by law. I think the
1:54:19
last tip I want to play is this
because just to show go back to
1:54:22
the thesis which we elucidated
in previous shows
1:54:26
Adam Curry: about elucidate.
It's a good word.
1:54:29
John C Dvorak: Iran, yeah, this
is Marco Rubio, our Republican
1:54:33
one of the old line Republicans,
and he's telling it like it is
1:54:36
and the most
1:54:37
Unknown: important things
President Biden needs to make
1:54:38
clear tonight is that if US
troops, US diplomats, US
1:54:43
personnel in the Middle East
come under attack by these
1:54:45
Iranian backed and controlled
Shia militia groups in the
1:54:49
region, they attack our people.
We are going to consider that to
1:54:53
be an attack by the government
of Iran against the United
1:54:56
States that will require an
extensive risk Ponce, an
1:55:00
extensive retaliatory response,
just in the last 24 hours, we've
1:55:04
seen an uptick and attacks by
these groups, military forces.
1:55:08
And there are troubling
indicators that that's going to
1:55:10
turn into a full scale campaign
and we can't allow it. It is
1:55:13
important the President make it
abundantly clear by laying out
1:55:16
clear and credible red lines
that if Iran crosses will
1:55:21
require us to engage them. I
don't want there to be a Middle
1:55:23
East war. I don't want the US
involved in another Middle East
1:55:25
war. But if we're onto its
proxies decide to attack us,
1:55:28
we're going to have to retaliate
and it's important in order to
1:55:31
prevent this for the President
to make that clear tonight, same
1:55:34
Adam Curry: words as Blinken in
the United Nations back to Fox.
1:55:37
In fact,
1:55:38
Unknown: I would say bomb Bomb,
bomb, bomb them, bomb them and
1:55:44
bomb them again. Yeah, Janine
1:55:48
Adam Curry: she's the one yeah
let's let's let's throw her down
1:55:51
there Let's bomb with her. Throw
judge Jeanine out of the plane
1:55:55
bomb with her horrible horrible
me know what this is going to
1:56:00
do. This is going to be
terrorism is coming to the west
1:56:03
terrorism in Western Europe
1:56:05
John C Dvorak: was racist to my
clip. Because you must bring
1:56:09
terrorism in but we have to have
a target Iranian terrorism in
1:56:13
the United States.
1:56:15
Unknown: Iran isn't just finding
Hamas in the Middle East it's
1:56:19
also threatening Americans
within our own borders. House
1:56:23
hearing today in Iranian
American activists discuss the
1:56:26
multiple assassination attempts
she has to revive. Here's more
1:56:31
as an American citizen, I don't
feel safe here at home anymore.
1:56:35
My family doesn't feel safe
anymore.
1:56:38
My see elimite jawed is an
Iranian American activist. She
1:56:41
was forced to leave Iran for
being critical of the regime.
1:56:44
And she now lives in the US
where she fears for her life
1:56:47
Iranian regime, were plotting to
kidnap me and take me from
1:56:51
Brooklyn by a speed boat to a
cargo ship bond for Venezuela,
1:56:57
and then to Iran. To you maybe
it's a scary movie, but to us
1:57:01
this is the reality. They did
that to my colleague in France,
1:57:04
and they executed him in Iran.
1:57:07
Elena Dodd said she's had to
move over a dozen times under
1:57:10
FBI supervision and she believes
the Iranian regime is
1:57:13
responsible. Alena jawed says
the Biden administration's
1:57:16
response has been inadequate
because it isn't holding Iran
1:57:20
accountable. She says these
threats are national security
1:57:22
threats.
1:57:23
Adam Curry: The Iranian regime's
threats to the homeland are real
1:57:26
and are growing. They've sought
to conduct cyber attacks on our
1:57:28
state and local governments and
private industry. They plotted
1:57:31
to target and assassinate
individuals inside the United
1:57:34
States, including former Trump
officials.
1:57:37
Unknown: Congressman Mark Green
says that a record number of
1:57:39
illegal immigrants are entering
the US through the southern
1:57:42
border. He's concerned about how
Iran could take advantage of
1:57:45
that infiltrate the country to
commit acts of terrorism. Former
1:57:49
State Department official Nathan
sales believes Iran may have
1:57:52
already done so Iranian
1:57:54
terrorists found in the United
States I mentioned Hezbollah 128
1:58:00
Hezbollah operatives are crusted
over the years by the FBI within
1:58:03
that population of however many
millions or hundreds of 1000s of
1:58:07
known God aways we should not
assume that they are all
1:58:11
perfectly clean
1:58:12
sales says the Iranian regime
hides behind proxies instead of
1:58:16
doing things themselves job
1:58:18
Adam Curry: their their their
car cowards the cowards so
1:58:22
Hezbollah Hezbollah is here it
has blown
1:58:25
John C Dvorak: I'd like to term
God aways gotta gotta
1:58:29
Adam Curry: well let's go to the
main lady who's in charge of the
1:58:32
God always write that down. Got
aways?
1:58:35
John C Dvorak: I like it too.
Yeah, good.
1:58:36
Adam Curry: Let's go to the main
lady who was responsible for
1:58:39
bringing Hezbollah over the
border and ISIS and what else is
1:58:43
always here this all here and
there in fatigues. You can spot
1:58:47
them there their military age
men and they are wearing camos
1:58:52
we go to Geneva the most recent
international dialogue for
1:58:56
migration day 2023 with the
former State Department, Clinton
1:59:03
Easter, Amy Pope with her
keynote on international
1:59:08
dialogue for migration day.
Listen to this douche eg me
1:59:14
please could you take to the
lectern and give us your keynote
1:59:17
Unknown: speak Thank you very
much.
1:59:21
Adam Curry: Oh, you know what
she reminds me of? What does she
1:59:23
remind you? Come on.
1:59:25
John C Dvorak: Come on the
advertising girl. No, she's
1:59:27
Adam Curry: reminds me of this
1:59:29
Unknown: thing now y'all about
our fans come on Mary McCormack,
1:59:35
everybody said another way, the
guy gotta hear the hook. socials
1:59:40
about to pee pee burns Come on
people. Do we really need
1:59:44
another life painters share? We
need another post to show up
1:59:47
everywhere. Yeah, hoop is risky
scattered that we never forget
1:59:51
that I post live forever even
when we go to bearing
1:59:59
the
2:00:07
Adam Curry: Okay, back to Amy
Pope, Gigi, Amy Pope, please
2:00:11
could you take to the lectern
and give us your keynote speech?
2:00:13
Thank you very much. Welcome.
2:00:20
Unknown: So first of all, I have
to correct something it's not
2:00:24
Amy Pope of the United States of
America. It is Amy Pope of the
2:00:29
International Organization for
Migration. It is so wonderful to
2:00:38
have all of you here today,
which I am telling everybody and
2:00:41
I want you to make it true. This
is the hottest event in Geneva.
2:00:45
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. The
hottest event and it's a hot
2:00:48
ticket. John, did you get in on
that deal? Did you get that hot?
2:00:53
John C Dvorak: I didn't know was
gonna be the founder of go where
2:00:57
to get it? Oh, it
2:00:58
Unknown: was hot.
2:01:00
I know some of you are thinking
well, the bar is kind of low.
2:01:05
Adam Curry: But guess what I'm
thinking all of you
2:01:07
Unknown: here with the voices
with your engagement with the
2:01:10
music with the art and this is
2:01:13
Adam Curry: what they always do.
I had to wade through they have
2:01:16
to people that have African
dances, you know, they got like
2:01:20
stupid Art Fair stuff. It's
always like, Oh, it's such it's
2:01:24
the hottest ticket come on to
Geneva wanna get together you
2:01:26
consultants we can all thing is
it gonna have a great it's gonna
2:01:29
be great. What a junket. It's so
much fun. Can we get Yo Yo Ma.
2:01:32
Unknown: And with the
extraordinarily thoughtful
2:01:34
conversation, we can make this
the hottest conversation in
2:01:38
Geneva. Speaking of hot. So
we're here today because we know
2:01:43
the issue of climate change and
human mobility in ways that we
2:01:48
could not have predicted.
2:01:49
Adam Curry: So this is her. So
this is what they're going for.
2:01:52
We need to allow open borders
migration, because of climate
2:01:57
change. Listen to her examples.
10 years
2:01:59
Unknown: ago, 20 years ago, just
last year, there are over 60
2:02:04
million people 60 million were
displaced because of disasters
2:02:10
relating to climate. That Oh
2:02:13
Adam Curry: crap, no, wait,
wait, listen to our examples.
2:02:16
And then say bullcrap,
2:02:17
Unknown: because of disasters
relating to climate. That is 60
2:02:22
million people, including across
North America, people displaced
2:02:26
by wildfires,
2:02:27
Adam Curry: wildfires from
climate change, John wildfires
2:02:30
or climate change, please don't
argue
2:02:33
Unknown: across Libya, people
displaced by storm.
2:02:38
Adam Curry: Well, it wasn't it
wasn't dikes and dams. And a dam
2:02:44
that was known for years to be
critically weak there was warned
2:02:48
about that the government had to
resign over No, it was climate
2:02:53
change. Ami
2:02:54
Unknown: for 1000s have died
across the Pacific Islands,
2:02:59
people who are displaced because
of a range of storms of sea
2:03:04
level rise, and other disasters,
sea
2:03:07
Adam Curry: level rise who
drowned from sea level rise, no
2:03:11
lies.
2:03:13
Unknown: And we're seeing this
play out over and over and over
2:03:17
Adam Curry: again on television.
2:03:19
Unknown: And ladies and
gentlemen, excellencies.
2:03:22
colleagues and friends, it is
time that we act, we need to act
2:03:26
because if we don't act,
countless lives will be lost. I
2:03:31
thought
2:03:31
Adam Curry: you there's too many
people. I thought the population
2:03:34
of the earth.
2:03:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're
right. There's a disconnect
2:03:38
here. With the logic. Too many
people am dying. No, no, no, we
2:03:43
can't have them die by the let's
have a war. And this don't stop.
2:03:46
They don't have a ceasefire. But
none of it makes sense.
2:03:50
Unknown: Countless people will
become homeless, countless jobs.
2:03:56
Adam Curry: And we're not just
talking about California
2:03:58
Unknown: economic opportunities
will be gone.
2:04:02
Adam Curry: Oh, we got to hurry
for the economic opportunities
2:04:04
in Chicago.
2:04:06
Unknown: Now the purpose of
having you all here today is to
2:04:09
drive that conversation drive.
And it's to do something a
2:04:12
little bit different from the
regular Geneva scene. It's to
2:04:16
bring in the voices of people we
don't always hear from to bring
2:04:21
in voices of young people to
bring in voices of the Pacific
2:04:26
Islands in the voice or dance in
this communities. To make sure
2:04:30
that together, we are hearing we
understand, we can empathize and
2:04:37
we will be called to action.
2:04:41
Adam Curry: So it's all a lie.
It's all just big, big crap.
2:04:47
fest. Oh, we brought in Pacific
Islanders do a dance for us.
2:04:51
Pacific Islanders,
2:04:53
John C Dvorak: dance monkey.
They're
2:04:55
Adam Curry: so cute, aren't
they? That's so wonderful. So
2:04:58
how's it going with all those
climates Changes to sustainable
2:05:01
development goals. Well, Houston
we have a small problem. Here's
2:05:05
the UK.
2:05:06
Unknown: New figures released
last month have revealed that
2:05:09
sales of electric cars have
fallen by 15% Because drivers
2:05:13
continue to opt for vehicle
powered by petrol or diesel. So
2:05:18
the news comes shortly after the
Prime Minister's announcement
2:05:22
that he was delaying the ban on
new petrol and diesel cars until
2:05:26
2035. A decision that was
largely welcomed by motorists
2:05:29
but criticized by the motoring
industry.
2:05:31
Adam Curry: No one wants these
things Mercedes Benz the CFO
2:05:35
yesterday warns of brutal
electric vehicle space, and I
2:05:42
didn't even know this they are
targeting to be 50% hybrid and
2:05:46
Evie sales by 2025. And from
2025 they will only only launch
2:05:52
electric models, so they're not
even gonna make gasoline powered
2:05:56
vehicles in two years time. And
no one wants it
2:06:01
John C Dvorak: makes no sense
for it. Let's just ask this
2:06:05
question. Where are you going to
charge this thing? Forget you're
2:06:09
gonna charge it in the garage
that you're not supposed to put
2:06:12
these in because they catch your
house on fire.
2:06:15
Adam Curry: No, how about this?
I have a better question for you
2:06:17
something I want you to bring up
with Horowitz copper mines are
2:06:21
closing. There's not enough
copper. Forbes quarterly warning
2:06:27
on copper before it derails the
energy transition copper supply
2:06:31
is not responding to the ever
accelerating energy transition.
2:06:35
At best. This means a future
price level that slows the
2:06:38
transition. And at worst, that
means the required copper simply
2:06:42
won't be there when it's needed.
New mines are not being built.
2:06:46
Goldman Sachs research says the
regulatory approval for copper
2:06:49
mines has fallen to the lowest
level in a decade. Someone knows
2:06:54
that this is not happening. And
it's not the consumer world
2:07:00
there's something weird out
2:07:02
John C Dvorak: and we played the
we also the other issue of
2:07:04
course, we played the graphite
clip in the last show, but I
2:07:07
want to play I want to play this
one which is from about a little
2:07:10
earlier. This came in a month
earlier. This is the rare earths
2:07:15
problem. China again involved
and I had there's a there's a
2:07:19
gaffe in here that I got a kick
out of
2:07:21
Unknown: challenges are facing
an already tenuous market for
2:07:24
semiconductors, as China is
making some changes in the name
2:07:27
of national security as a key
exporter of certain rare earth
2:07:31
minerals that are critical to
the production of some computer
2:07:34
chips and solar panels. China
holds the cards to a burgeoning
2:07:38
market where semiconductors
serve as the base of many
2:07:41
electrical and electronic
products. But instead of selling
2:07:44
them on the global market, China
has pulled back the country is
2:07:47
reportedly responsible for the
production of 80% of the world's
2:07:51
gallium and about 60% of
geranium. So CNN who cites the
2:07:56
critical raw materials Alliance,
but recent curbs in the name of
2:08:00
national security meant trying
to export it, none of it in the
2:08:04
month of August.
2:08:06
John C Dvorak: Good is she says
Geranium is not a flower. She
2:08:14
said Geranium is germanium. I'd
like geranium better. But it's a
2:08:22
rare earth. And the Chinese got
60% of the world's production of
2:08:28
germanium uranium. This post has
been up forever with this gaff
2:08:34
in it I just don't understand
that but well, it's okay because
2:08:37
Adam Curry: climate change is
bringing all kinds of problems
2:08:40
strange
2:08:40
Unknown: weather event caused a
massive accident near New
2:08:42
Orleans where at least seven
people died. It's being called a
2:08:46
super far. Interstate 55
Yesterday turning visibility to
2:08:50
near zero.
2:08:51
Adam Curry: It's a super fog.
It's not fog.
2:08:54
John C Dvorak: No it can't be
there's no such thing as fog
2:08:56
now.
2:08:57
Adam Curry: It's a super fog
everybody before climate change
2:09:00
super fog more
2:09:01
Unknown: than 150 vehicles ran
into each other. At least 25
2:09:05
people were hurt
2:09:07
with our partners at the Weather
Channel joins us right now.
2:09:09
Stephanie. So what is this super
fog? All
2:09:11
Adam Curry: of these tell us
stuff.
2:09:13
Unknown: Now let's have a look
at what was happening in the
2:09:15
atmosphere to understand it. We
had a moist air mass and cooler
2:09:18
temperatures next to a warm Lake
Pontchartrain all helping to
2:09:21
create the fog then light winds
push smoke from this marsh fire
2:09:26
West. Oh causing creating the
super fog and low visibility. We
2:09:32
have dense fog advisories in
place again this morning from
2:09:34
north of Baton Rouge over to New
Orleans. Visibility could be a
2:09:37
quarter of a mile or less making
for dangerous conditions. So
2:09:41
give yourself plenty of time and
use a low beams the fog will mix
2:09:45
out later in the morning and
night on average. There's over
2:09:47
25,000 vehicle crashes a year
due to fog,
2:09:51
Adam Curry: but not super fog. I
grew up
2:09:54
John C Dvorak: first of all
smoke and you know what the word
2:09:57
the derivation of the word small
Get which we don't hear much
2:10:01
because it's been cleaned up is
smoke plus fog. Yes. Now it's
2:10:06
super fog, but instead to have a
super fog.
2:10:09
Adam Curry: I grew up in the
Netherlands, and it has perfect
2:10:13
conditions for fog or what they
call mist. And you know what
2:10:18
they did? Everyone had, I think
they may still have to have a
2:10:21
you had to have a third, rear
light, a third red light
2:10:27
John C Dvorak: will, until
recently, all the cars in France
2:10:31
and then when I first went down
the hill halogens, they had
2:10:34
yellow headlamps. Because it was
so foggy all the time. We had a
2:10:39
lot of fog in the San Francisco
Bay area for years and has come
2:10:42
and gone. And they used to be
these huge pile ups of 100 cars,
2:10:46
it was an unknown because of the
day, more or less the terrain
2:10:51
mixed with the weather and other
conditions. Things change.
2:10:57
Adam Curry: So just going to
sticking with sticking with the
2:11:03
climate change here. This is
Faith B roll Executive Director
2:11:07
of the International Oil
analysis International. I don't
2:11:14
have the name of the outfit.
This is on Bloomberg. So it's a
2:11:16
financial person.
2:11:18
Unknown: The reason that we see
for a fact if not faith fatty
2:11:20
example, oils. We talked about
oil demand to peach in the next
2:11:27
five or six years is the
following. There is a big move
2:11:32
on the transportation sector
which is a big chunk of the
2:11:36
global oil consumption. Electric
cars. This is when you look at
2:11:42
electric cars two years ago, one
out of 25 cars sold in divert
2:11:47
was electric one out of 25 two
years ago this year. One out of
2:11:53
five cars sold this electric and
in 2013 with the current
2:11:58
investment plans current
policies. Every second car sold
2:12:03
will be an electric car in 2030.
This is one undisclosed offshore
2:12:07
site to be vehicle.
2:12:08
Adam Curry: I just don't believe
it. I think there's SIOP ng us
2:12:11
it's not true. This is
2:12:12
John C Dvorak: bullcrap. There's
no way. One, two, what he said
2:12:14
one out of five cars, sold
2:12:16
Adam Curry: one out every two in
seven years. That's coming. He
2:12:19
says yeah, I don't believe it.
There's no Kidal either. There's
2:12:22
no geranium. Got no geraniums.
However, there is good news,
2:12:30
then it's from the Bay Area.
2:12:32
Unknown: Epic one water brew has
a secret ingredient you likely
2:12:35
wouldn't expect. The water going
into these cans is recycled from
2:12:40
showers, sinks and washing
machines from inside this luxury
2:12:44
San Francisco high rise
apartment building. The brew is
2:12:48
the brainchild of epic clean
tech, a local water technology
2:12:52
company.
2:12:52
We kind of live in this flush
and forget society where we
2:12:54
don't think about what happens
after we flush our toilets and
2:12:56
water just magically appears. So
we wanted to sort of showcase
2:13:01
the potential of water reuse.
And we decided to highlight the
2:13:05
unbelievable potential of
recycled water by putting it
2:13:08
into a beer.
2:13:08
Adam Curry: I think you need to
do a meet up and have some of
2:13:11
this what do you drink it now
you drink?
2:13:13
John C Dvorak: Some of the
recycled do toilet beer? Totally
2:13:18
by the way, the number is 14% of
all new cars sold and 2022 is
2:13:23
are electric up from 9% in 2021.
So it went up. I don't see it
2:13:28
going much higher. But it can
we're buying but you can't Where
2:13:31
do you post the charge them? You
can't put the car in the house.
2:13:36
Because they they're taught
you're told not to garage these
2:13:39
cars anymore.
2:13:40
Adam Curry: I don't think
they're insurable almost.
2:13:43
John C Dvorak: We'll see what
happens but
2:13:47
Adam Curry: okay, just one more
thing. And then we should take a
2:13:49
break because food is also under
attack. You're familiar with
2:13:53
Tyson. I'm familiar with Tyson
because of the beef initiative.
2:13:57
They're one of the big three
meat processors. Yep. And so
2:14:04
they they finish they finish the
the beef. Like they'll take them
2:14:08
into their stockyards and
they'll feed them some. Usually
2:14:12
it's Cheerios and Captain Crunch
and stuff to make them nice and
2:14:15
fat after they've been eaten. I
don't know other goop and now
2:14:20
they've done a deal with a Dutch
company called Pro ticks
2:14:22
Unknown: I sent has reached an
agreement for a two fold
2:14:25
investment with pro ticks. It's
a leading global insect
2:14:28
ingredients company that
investment will support the
2:14:31
growth of the emerging insect
ingredient industry. Expand the
2:14:35
use of insect ingredients
solutions, and protein it's also
2:14:39
joining together for the
operation and construction of an
2:14:42
insect ingredient facility. Once
that is complete, it'll be the
2:14:46
first at scale facility of its
kind to upcycle food
2:14:50
manufacturing byproducts into
high quality insect proteins and
2:14:54
lipids, primarily to be used in
the pet food and aquaculture
2:15:00
Your and livestock industry.
Yeah,
2:15:02
Adam Curry: livestock bugs.
2:15:04
John C Dvorak: I mentioned
something. Yes. So the world's
2:15:09
oldest dog died.
2:15:10
Adam Curry: I have the clip I
was gonna I was saving it. Oh,
2:15:14
well you want the clip is sure
we played a clip because I have
2:15:17
a comment because she actually
mess it up. But here's the clip
2:15:20
Unknown: the world's oldest dog
ever has died in Portugal. Bobby
2:15:25
The guard dog passed away over
the weekend. He lived all his
2:15:28
life on the same farm and
claimed the Guinness record for
2:15:31
longevity when he turned 30 At
his death Bobby was 31 that is
2:15:37
217 in dog ears rescue easy
Bobby.
2:15:41
Adam Curry: She should have said
in human years but she said in
2:15:44
dog years
2:15:49
John C Dvorak: know that dog ate
only human food. Which brought
2:15:55
me to the issue. Yes, I had a
dog that lived 25 years and it
2:16:00
was an American Eskimos Spitz.
He lived to be 25 and he only
2:16:06
ate scraps he never had to hard
dog food. He never had good
2:16:11
kibble. He never had anything
but scraps. And this dog
2:16:15
apparently this 31 year old dog
ate nothing but scraps dogs were
2:16:20
came out of the out of the
environment as garbage eaters
2:16:25
and the they ate the garbage on
the outskirts of human
2:16:28
development. They've befriended
mankind, and they were meant to
2:16:33
eat scraps and they'll live
longer if they eat scraps.
2:16:38
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
2:16:40
courage and that wisdom and say
in the morning to you the man
2:16:44
who has been putting the sea in
scraps for over 16 years say
2:16:48
hello there my friend on the
other end the one and only Mr.
2:16:56
John C Dvorak: Lewis I'm
creating morning Oh chips and
2:16:58
sci fi their son's in the water
and all the names are nights out
2:17:01
there. And the morning to the
trolls.
2:17:03
Adam Curry: The trolls. Not good
today. It's not good. 1818 98 No
2:17:12
one cares.
2:17:13
John C Dvorak: They hate us.
Yes, exactly. Average.
2:17:17
Adam Curry: Someone actually
gave me a troll count. Indeed.
2:17:22
Now it is. Here between Sunday's
is 2198 to 2336. And it's 1922
2:17:32
to 1992 for Thursday's?
2:17:35
John C Dvorak: No, no, I think
that the second was high and it
2:17:37
gets a little knock on
2:17:38
Adam Curry: the low side. Well,
it doesn't matter. We love
2:17:41
having the trolls here who are
here. Thank you for joining us.
2:17:44
And of course you can become a
troll just by just by osmosis
2:17:48
really. But if you go to troll
room.io, it'll really rub off on
2:17:52
you trust me on that one. You
can also join us through a
2:17:55
modern podcast app at podcast
apps.com They will give you an
2:17:59
alert. I think we finally got
that work in this morning when
2:18:02
when it's time for the live
show. That even starts a little
2:18:05
bit earlier. So you can hear the
priest remixes, which is always
2:18:08
fun. And you can join the trolls
and be a part of our live studio
2:18:15
audience which has been courtesy
of void zeros chat room is IRC
2:18:20
chat room for I'm gonna say 14
years, made a long time. And
2:18:26
it's the same same chat room and
he has kept that running. And we
2:18:31
appreciate him for that and
much, much more of course and no
2:18:34
agenda stream.com Thank you, sir
bemrose for organizing that. But
2:18:38
there's no way we can thank
everybody who has been a part of
2:18:41
the show. But man, we love all
of you. And we wouldn't be here
2:18:44
without you. You know that
because it's I actually I
2:18:47
thought your newsletter was
really appropriate. And what I
2:18:51
liked about it is, you know,
people, you're soso you're such
2:18:55
a good writer. I got an email
saying that's not true.
2:19:04
John C Dvorak: You know, you're
good writers, you get that kind
2:19:06
of email.
2:19:07
Adam Curry: That's not true.
Here's a podcast that's been
2:19:11
been living on donations since
2006. Before you I said, Well,
2:19:15
did you read what the newsletter
said? Because you you're so
2:19:20
smart. There are only a handful
of podcasts that are as old as
2:19:25
your no with no agenda show. And
none of them have relied 100% on
2:19:29
the support of the audience of
producers for content and
2:19:34
finance none. That's something
in itself and that is that's
2:19:39
that's that's why you're such a
great writer. Because it is not
2:19:43
just the donations. It is the
time talent and treasure of the
2:19:47
producers a very substantial
difference.
2:19:50
John C Dvorak: Oh yes, monster
different. So people who are
2:19:53
nitpicking there, they just
don't like us.
2:19:56
Adam Curry: No, no, of course
not.
2:19:59
John C Dvorak: They hater that
you read you heard from? Yeah,
2:20:02
well, and I think most of these
haters are jealous haters at
2:20:06
this point, we've been doing
this so long.
2:20:08
Adam Curry: Speaking of haters,
no agenda social.com, which I
2:20:11
find, I love going to the Live
tab. And just seeing what
2:20:17
everyone posts and just looking
at all different stories. I love
2:20:20
that. I don't even want to go to
my notifications anymore. It's
2:20:24
always someone looking for a
reaction. And sometimes,
2:20:28
sometimes they get it. Well, I
don't know if they're haters,
2:20:31
but a lot of them are. It's
just, I mean, it's like, you
2:20:33
know, it's like they tag people
tag me in their own arguments.
2:20:38
Yeah, just let me just take a
look. No agenda social.com which
2:20:43
you can follow Jhansi Dvorak
another way into social.com.
2:20:46
Yes,
2:20:47
John C Dvorak: I do blog. I
mean, there's, there's somebody
2:20:50
somebody's made a mockery of
something I said on the show
2:20:52
once where I said don't block
him. I just say hashtag blog. I
2:20:55
stopped doing that light years
ago. This is an old clip. Yeah.
2:20:59
Oh, yes. Tag blog.
2:21:01
Adam Curry: It is very old, from
Episode 900 or something. So
2:21:06
I'll just go into my timeline.
And here, check this out. No.
2:21:09
Baray. Adam just blamed the idea
for what showing what Hamas did.
2:21:14
And it's all Israel's fault. No,
douche. I didn't say anything of
2:21:19
the kind.
2:21:20
John C Dvorak: He said nothing
of the kind. No, but this is
2:21:22
just a hater. And a person who
is some this is a sick person.
2:21:27
So all I can say sick.
2:21:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, I was the one
who pointed out the Peter
2:21:34
Hitchens is a status right wing.
Good on, you know, this, like,
2:21:40
you know, everyone's posting the
art now to my top tagging me.
2:21:44
It's just
2:21:45
John C Dvorak: for what, what
was just how can we everything.
2:21:50
Everything is entropy. If you
start off the no agenda, social
2:21:53
as a good product, it gets very
popular. You have to cut off
2:21:56
people getting and then you open
it up again for more people. And
2:21:59
the second group that comes in
are a bunch of douchebags.
2:22:03
Adam Curry: Quite a few. I think
a lot of people have left
2:22:07
because of
2:22:07
John C Dvorak: because of the
douchebags they come in and they
2:22:09
ruin it for everybody. This is I
think common and it's been a
2:22:13
common occurrence in all social
medias. And news groups go back
2:22:18
to use NET. It's the same thing.
Yeah, there's a bunch of shut
2:22:24
ins. Usually they can't get a
date. They don't have any women
2:22:28
in their lives. There we go. For
men in the case of women and
2:22:33
women generally, or at least
they're not the problem here.
2:22:39
Yeah, it's it's men with who
can't get a date. Are they here?
2:22:44
They can't have a day when you
have a woman there. I've talked
2:22:47
about this.
2:22:47
Adam Curry: Got a lot of memes,
though.
2:22:52
John C Dvorak: Yay for the
memes. A
2:22:53
Adam Curry: lot of memes. Got a
lot of memes. Yeah. Anyway, so I
2:22:58
love going to that live feeds
tab and just seeing what people
2:23:00
are saying. But the stuff people
tagged me and it's just, it's
2:23:03
mainly just, they're trying to
antagonize me. So I'm just not
2:23:07
gonna go there anymore. I'm not
going there anymore.
2:23:11
John C Dvorak: I'm sick of it.
2:23:12
Adam Curry: I'm so sick of it.
Follow Jhansi DeVore. I could no
2:23:15
agenda social.com tagging
William. He loves it. He loves
2:23:19
being tagged in all kinds of
posts. This is a value for value
2:23:23
show. We decided somewhere
around Episode What was his
2:23:28
junk? 25 Maybe maybe even
earlier than last the
2:23:33
John C Dvorak: history as far as
I'm concerned. Yeah, someone
2:23:35
Adam Curry: knows. Somewhere
along those lines, we decided
2:23:40
that it was real work. And if
people wanted us to continue
2:23:44
doing this real work, they had
to send us money to pay for it
2:23:48
real money. And we said
apparently was $2 first and
2:23:54
stupidly and we got a very
predictable result. But then
2:23:57
when we said hey, just give us
whatever it's worth. That's when
2:24:00
people turned out
2:24:02
John C Dvorak: dead to we
discovered that numerology Oh,
2:24:05
yeah, everybody was giving us
odd screwball numbers that had
2:24:09
related to something that number
they liked. It was their
2:24:11
birthday. As luck lucky now we
realize that numerology is a big
2:24:16
deal and $2 doesn't work. No,
it's a bad number. And you see
2:24:19
amateurs to this day starting a
podcast and they say, Oh, we've
2:24:23
got 10,000 people that listen to
the podcast. Golly, if every one
2:24:29
of them if I do the podcast
weekly, yeah. And every one of
2:24:32
them just gave me $1
2:24:35
Adam Curry: I'd be with the set.
2:24:37
John C Dvorak: That's that is a
lot. That would be 10,000 Tiny.
2:24:40
That's like $4,000 or Darby
$10,000 a week for four weeks.
2:24:47
That's four I get $40,000 a
month on what how almost a half
2:24:52
a million would be a half a
million a year with 52 weeks.
2:24:55
And I'd be set that's all I need
is $1. So all I need is one
2:25:00
dollar from each and every one
of you who listen to the podcast
2:25:04
and the reality is you get your
normal three direct marketing
2:25:09
reply, which is you get 1%. So
instead of $10,000 You'll get
2:25:14
like 100. Yeah, yeah. It's 40
bucks a month.
2:25:19
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's um,
people try advertising that. I
2:25:22
mean, you heard it. There's
these companies who are paid for
2:25:25
by the US government gives them
contracts or you better better
2:25:28
label those guys is no good.
That just look at no agenda
2:25:32
social there it is. Proof is in
the pudding, blocked by every
2:25:36
other instance on on the
fediverse. Macedon universe.
2:25:41
Just for opinions. Yeah. And not
just blocked. We're called et
2:25:46
que que que Nazi quadrupeds
2:25:49
John C Dvorak: live and freeze
speech free speech.
2:25:52
Adam Curry: And that would
that's what would be that's
2:25:54
exactly quad ruins. Yeah. One.
So I got tagged in this thread.
2:25:58
Some someone said some other guy
somewhere that hadn't blocked us
2:26:02
yet. Why don't you go kill
yourself? Oh, oh, Pearl
2:26:07
clutching a bound. You told me
to kill myself. That's no,
2:26:11
that's horrible. Bla bla bla.
People are so sensitive. They
2:26:19
really are. They know. Just go
look at the responses from our
2:26:23
own people. The advertising will
not work on a product like this.
2:26:27
Only people will get value out
of it. And usually people get
2:26:30
value out of it. Because we calm
you down. We let you know what's
2:26:33
going on. We tell you what's
really happening in the world.
2:26:36
And we lose people in the
process, which is always really
2:26:40
sad, but it's fun to see them
come back to people do come
2:26:42
back. Like you know, I was
really pissed off at you guys
2:26:46
for what you were saying during
COVID. For you said about
2:26:48
Ukraine. Everyone had the flags.
Everyone had the flag profile.
2:26:51
Oh, Ukraine's bad horrible
people. I mean, good. Russia,
2:26:54
bad Russia bad. And then they
come back. So you know, I wasn't
2:26:59
really getting any other value
anywhere else. Everyone just
2:27:01
sounded like Twitter in my ear.
Exactly. And we do this twice a
2:27:05
week, for 16 years. And we'll
probably do it for another at
2:27:09
least 10 episodes we can get
guarantee you that if we're
2:27:12
lucky.
2:27:15
John C Dvorak: Well, as long as
the Ph D program keeps us going,
2:27:18
Adam Curry: yes. Well, we do
have the treasure part of our
2:27:21
time, talent or treasure. But
first, we need to talk about
2:27:25
artwork. This is something has
been going on for a long time.
2:27:28
Thanks to Sir Paul couture. Who
set up no agenda art
2:27:32
generator.com as we discovered
way before Apple actually
2:27:36
started supporting it. As part
of the spec, you could have
2:27:40
different artwork every single
episode and it's a real eye
2:27:43
catcher. You know, people like
Hey, what is that? Oh, that's
2:27:46
something different. Oh, well,
mate, maybe I should go list.
2:27:48
Oh, it's no agenda, guys. Yeah,
okay. And lots of times is a
2:27:52
very provocative sometimes it's
just celebratory, like our last
2:27:56
one, which is for episode 1601.
It wasn't celebratory, but it
2:28:03
was part of the be like JCD
Monday. Which I did not go on no
2:28:07
agenda social. All Monday. Did
you go on no agenda social
2:28:10
Monday?
2:28:12
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
don't pay attention that day
2:28:14
when I'm on so
2:28:15
Adam Curry: it was be like JCD
Monday.
2:28:18
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
mean put your phone away.
2:28:22
Adam Curry: And we weren't gonna
go on no agenda social. No, I
2:28:24
never heard that part of it.
Okay, well, Taunton, Neil got
2:28:27
it. And she put together a nice
day it was just a colorful piece
2:28:31
of art was there were there
other things that we looked at?
2:28:35
I mean, I liked a
2:28:36
John C Dvorak: lot of stuff that
we liked. Let me see what
2:28:39
Adam Curry: we had. Though looks
okay, we we liked that one when
2:28:44
loser drone which is also
taunting you I thought it was
2:28:46
what you like the the the dame
Kenny been? No signal screen.
2:28:52
Free phone bill. Little D I did
2:28:55
John C Dvorak: but it was a
little too like every other
2:28:57
piece of art she's been doing
recently. And you want I really
2:29:01
like the Gaza strips. I liked
the Gaza strips but I like to
2:29:05
watch dog activated by Francisco
Scaramanga and you hated it.
2:29:11
Adam Curry: Nice. I don't know
if
2:29:13
John C Dvorak: I yes, no,
2:29:14
Adam Curry: I didn't hate it's
just like it's too green. Go
2:29:18
you're colorblind? No, I see the
green. And it's just it was like
2:29:22
me. It wasn't all that great.
Very small letters. ITM 808 on
2:29:27
the monitor if you really zoomed
in close. No, I think we made a
2:29:31
good choice. It was just you
know, something colorful. A
2:29:34
worked like it. But sure we'll
have a celebratory piece today.
2:29:38
No doubt of LSC. So thank you
Taunton meal for the album art.
2:29:44
Be like JCD Monday. We will
bring this promotion back again.
2:29:49
I'm sure we will need it because
people just going off the rails.
2:29:52
They're going all crazy. Now to
the Treasurer part and yes,
2:29:56
you're right. We have a special
promotion running where you can
2:29:59
receive in addition to an
instant knighthood, which people
2:30:02
always love to show that off at
the meetups, you can get a PhD
2:30:06
in media deconstruction. Did I
say that correctly now?
2:30:10
John C Dvorak: PhD, PhD and
media deconstruction. Yep. And
2:30:14
this is
2:30:14
Adam Curry: just as valid as a
knighthood or as a juicer crowd
2:30:18
John C Dvorak: is half of your
degrees out there. Exactly. I
2:30:21
could think of a couple of
universities that have worthless
2:30:24
degrees
2:30:25
Adam Curry: and some earthling
in Houston who lives in
2:30:28
Woodlands Texas, came in with a
cool two grand says John and
2:30:32
Adam, I've truly appreciate what
you have built for a while now.
2:30:35
However, an overwhelming sense
of gratitude for the show has
2:30:38
been on my heart and mind for
the last few weeks. I even just
2:30:42
saying that was enough for me. I
really appreciate you all
2:30:46
grandfathering me in on the PhD
but I would like to ensure I
2:30:49
earn one as it is also Oh,
that's right. We we
2:30:53
grandfathered him in as it is
also an honor to be an executive
2:30:56
producer on the true 16 year
mark. Oh, please. Oh please. You
2:31:01
says de douche.
2:31:04
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:31:07
Adam Curry: and he says I would
also greatly appreciate some
2:31:09
jobs karma and nothing else. Oh,
and this is some earthling in
2:31:13
Houston. Y'all can use my real
name Cody bass. And please have
2:31:17
that on the PhD. I think I am
now a vie count I think you are
2:31:21
right I still don't know what he
is right? Yes, I still
2:31:24
John C Dvorak: have no no Cody
bass is he'd be run into him
2:31:27
he's in Texas. The name is
familiar
2:31:30
Adam Curry: for sure. I'm not
sure I've had we know so many
2:31:35
people. Sounds sounds like
someone I would run into in
2:31:39
Texas I still have no idea what
names or lands or anything so no
2:31:43
need for now maybe one day I
will and please remind me if you
2:31:47
ever need it. Yes we will. I
will think of better by Count
2:31:50
name eventually but for now VC
sea bass will suffice y'all rock
2:31:54
here's to 16 more jobs, jobs.
2:32:00
John C Dvorak: Jobs shenana Man
in Cape Coral Florida 1602 is a
2:32:09
show the member number show club
man happy 16th anniversary boys
2:32:17
only my PhD my very first show
number donation jingles mac and
2:32:21
cheese hearing Adam giggled
during the clip makes me smile
2:32:24
every time and little girl yay F
35 Karma please sir Dan Amanda
2:32:31
Baron of Southwest Florida you
slaves can get used to makin
2:32:38
macaroni and cheese shattered
melted together
2:32:41
Unknown: mac and cheese mac and
cheese mac and cheese. Mac and
2:32:45
cheese you've got karma
2:32:58
Adam Curry: and now ladies
gentlemen.
2:33:01
John C Dvorak: Answering the
mind. Yeah, Nussbaum.
2:33:10
Does Mom
2:33:13
Unknown: Oh
2:33:16
Adam Curry: workboat.
Appropriate. Sir Nussbaum from
2:33:20
Virginia Beach, Virginia 108 O
dot O eight. The first Grand
2:33:24
Duke PhD. Not sure how we'll
address this but that will make
2:33:28
perfect wall decoration. PS also
melon sweet melons are the
2:33:33
sweetest. Thank you very much
sir Nussbaum. He's always been
2:33:36
there to support us for a long,
long long time.
2:33:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, good guy.
Very good Marie's mill. I'm just
2:33:43
thinking of the mellow sweet so
hear me if I had those. Maurice
2:33:47
Miller 1000 Hey guys, I've been
listening to the show since I
2:33:51
started trucking or around 12
years ago. He's listening in its
2:33:55
truck. Good you guys have helped
me keep my sanity during the
2:34:00
chaos so donating 1000 to grab a
PhD executive producer night
2:34:05
title was a no brainer. I take
the title sir. Dr. mammalian of
2:34:10
the low country long table can I
have a round table classic but
2:34:14
and meet for the ceremony that's
always available. Also play the
2:34:17
jingles drunk again. Man. I'm
high you might die little girl.
2:34:20
Yay. Thanks again for everything
you've done.
2:34:26
Adam Curry: On dial drunk again.
Wow, I am really high. You might
2:34:32
die. rather nice. Nice little.
That was nice. I like that. Chad
2:34:40
Lawrence, West Valley City, Utah
1000. How dare you dissect a
2:34:47
news cycle was such a reckless
abandon your insights into the
2:34:51
mainstream media, government and
political campaigns are nothing
2:34:53
short of scandalous. I demand
you immediately cease and desist
2:34:57
from providing clarity and
context it is positively
2:35:00
indecent Furthermore, your lack
of advertisers is an affront to
2:35:03
capitalism itself. How can you
survive without bombarding us
2:35:07
with irrelevant products? My
sensibilities are bruised
2:35:10
gentlemen. In conclusion, I
should be writing a sternly
2:35:13
worded letter to the Queen about
this travesty expect a strongly
2:35:16
worded telegram from her
majesty's office forthwith.
2:35:19
She's dead. Yours in righteous
indignation Chad Lawrence PS I
2:35:24
should be listening to your next
episode with a monocle firmly
2:35:27
affixed and a cup of Earl Grey
tea at the ready Good day. PS
2:35:32
please Knight me sir Chad GPT
you got it brother. Thank you.
2:35:37
John C Dvorak: Sir Who dat
today? No. Must be from New
2:35:41
Orleans. I don't know though. Is
from the Hall of Fame city.
2:35:44
Jeff, please accept my tuition
payment of 1k for the doctorate
2:35:49
this is as brilliant an idea as
the show itself. you for your
2:35:57
courage, Sir Who dad of the Hall
of Fame city.
2:36:01
Adam Curry: We're still at our
executive producer level and
2:36:04
PhDs. Halle Porter says I need
to do.
2:36:09
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:36:13
Adam Curry: and I'd like to
thank my friend Christine
2:36:15
cortisol who punched me in the
mouth two years ago. I'm sad
2:36:18
it's taken me this long to
donate but a PhD at age 33 I had
2:36:22
to act quickly. I have a job in
marketing and I gotta say John,
2:36:26
you've done it he was so excited
to hear the donation segment to
2:36:30
see who all got a PhD way to
gamify it brah please dub me
2:36:34
Dane faith first done you guys
are the best jobs karma for all
2:36:39
and oh she wants some answers
well ha second let me let me let
2:36:43
me grab some ants for you. Just
a tad of ants and we can't do
2:36:47
too much
2:36:55
Unknown: I got jobs jobs jobs
and jobs for job
2:37:13
John C Dvorak: sir Cass events
Parts Unknown 1000 Just play the
2:37:16
shape shifting Jews and I'll be
happy sir Cass event night of
2:37:21
the big Oregon
2:37:33
Unknown: shape shifting.
2:37:36
Adam Curry: I mean, considering
we have an Allah Akbar for
2:37:39
Nussbaum and the shape shift,
and I think we're I think we're
2:37:43
hitting on all cylinders. This
is a show, man. Oh, man. You go.
2:37:50
Scott Peterson is in Seabrook,
Victoria Australia $1,000 He
2:37:54
says no jingles no karma. Just a
D do.
2:37:58
Unknown: You spend D deuced.
2:38:02
John C Dvorak: Game Elizabeth
Gardner, Kansas 1000. It Emma,
2:38:06
John and Adam. Congratulations
on your sweet 16 I'm just so
2:38:10
excited to be part of the
celebration with a PhD from my
2:38:13
favorite addiction. No agenda. I
haven't missed an Episodes
2:38:18
Episode. Since being hit in the
mouth years ago by my husband no
2:38:22
joke. I'll hang the certificate
proudly in my office where I can
2:38:26
where I help companies define
and conquer with branding that
2:38:30
compels their customers to act.
I help companies in all stages
2:38:34
of growth from startup to
stagnant. Just mentioned get mo
2:38:39
nation at V brand us v brand u
s.com. For best price. Branding.
2:38:48
Cheers to another 16 years
please. Dame Elizabeth keeper of
2:38:52
the hobby farm in Gardner.
Kansas nice
2:38:56
Adam Curry: place Canary Cry
radio $1,000 with a switcheroo
2:39:01
this media deconstruction PhD
Scholarship is here by award oh
2:39:05
the so the scholarship is
changing interesting to serve
2:39:08
basil Knight of the warmer corn.
All right, well okay Switcheroos
2:39:14
let me just put all that in
here. God do these things on the
2:39:17
fly you know, so we get them
right. My computer if it would
2:39:22
just be par for the course today
from my computer to crash it
2:39:25
feels like feels like things
happen. It's one of those days.
2:39:29
This is presented as a birthday
gift to our best buddy basil
2:39:33
basil. For his continued
education credits immediate
2:39:36
deconstruction this scholarship
was presented by the producers
2:39:39
of Canary Cry News Talk With
special thanks to Sir Darren
2:39:42
Stouffer Unani mouse Sir Alex
protocol Carol F Felicia de dame
2:39:47
grace and King W. A big thank
you to Adam and John for their
2:39:50
good influence and for
pioneering the V four V model.
2:39:53
Without it we wouldn't be able
to enjoy Canary Cry talk news is
2:39:56
hilarious deconstruction of the
media and current events
2:39:59
supercharged with a Biblical,
prophetic and supernatural
2:40:01
worldview. Also to anyone who is
interested in learning the truth
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called Burning Man. Check out
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Burning Man you'll become the
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Sorry for the long note no not
but this is a special moment for
2:40:27
producers of Canary cried talk
news news talk our best buddy
2:40:31
Basil is becoming a big boy
shout out to all CCN tea
2:40:34
producers listening ITM and
think outside the cage. PS
2:40:38
commence operation get Adam on
Canary cried to tell his
2:40:41
testimony. You've been in our
prayers for a long time. So I
2:40:44
mean email. I'll do that. Of
course. I don't think you've
2:40:47
ever asked me. Maybe you have
maybe just missed it. Thank you
2:40:50
very much. Good switcheroo.
2:40:53
John C Dvorak: All right, now
we've got Lukas Saunders who
2:40:55
wants me to read this note which
blows up my my spreadsheet
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345 12 But I'll read the
beginning because I think he
2:41:01
only wants me to do is read that
and then you can take it from
2:41:04
that. I'd very much appreciate
for Jhansi Dvorak to do his
2:41:08
wonderful read of my note. This
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2:41:31
Adam Curry: This treasure is
actually in the amount of check
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Karuna because checks are still
on their own currency and not
2:41:38
the Euro the check amount is
eight oh 8.5 or a check goob
2:41:43
check boop check boobs donation.
Adam I'm in need of a vigorous
2:41:48
Do
2:41:50
Unknown: you spend deep deuced
2:41:55
Adam Curry: This is my first
donation from freeloading after
2:41:57
a full year however my parents
other male human resource needs
2:42:00
to be shamed for still being a
douchebag even though he is one
2:42:03
he's the one who hit me in the
mouth more than a year. Born and
2:42:08
raised Indiana boy but writing
to you from Praha Czech Republic
2:42:12
ah
2:42:13
John C Dvorak: leavers, Prague.
Yeah,
2:42:15
Adam Curry: well, he says Praha
It's all the rage to pronounce
2:42:20
countries and cities by their
mother tongue pronunciation ie
2:42:23
key Turkey a gotcha. Yeah. After
the French after living in the
2:42:28
in the Czech for more than five
years. I have plenty of boots on
2:42:31
the ground reporting to give you
but to short and a long note.
2:42:33
Sorry, Adam. I will leave the
reporting below. And you can
2:42:35
read on air what you'd like. Now
he wants them lewdness. He wants
2:42:40
you to say nice tits and then in
smoking hot wife Trump gonna
2:42:44
come and then you say yes, yes.
Yes. So do you have your lines
2:42:47
you know what to do?
2:42:48
John C Dvorak: Nice. It's
2:43:00
nice tea. It's nice
2:43:02
Adam Curry: to say yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah.
2:43:06
All right. Thanks, Lucas. Check.
Check.
2:43:09
John C Dvorak: We're pros here.
Really? Allison Jade. All
2:43:14
Osofsky in Paulsboro, Washington
when the if anyone's in the area
2:43:19
of Paul's bow. I would recommend
driving through. It's like
2:43:25
Norwegian, little miniature
Norwegian town. Oh, this
2:43:28
Adam Curry: is our Jade. Oh,
this is Ali Javed Ali. Did you
2:43:30
get a note card?
2:43:32
John C Dvorak: I own don't have
it. But she's pausable three,
2:43:37
three 3.33. I sent a note card
to John I wanted something more.
2:43:40
Personally from I wanted
something more personally. For
2:43:43
more Perez was she says for my
first donation. This is my this
2:43:47
for my 33rd birthday. Hans
amazing number of people turn 33
2:43:50
Listen to this show. Yes. 1027
hoping it gets there by the show
2:43:54
day. Yes. You got to be all the
other note to be read. I know. I
2:43:59
haven't got anything. All right.
It's a no card. That's le J I'll
2:44:03
look for it and read it later.
Good
2:44:04
Adam Curry: to hear from you.
Ali J. Jeff Orton is in
2:44:07
Greensboro, North Carolina
333 33 Rogan donation and
2:44:10
congrats on 1600 No jingles but
shamefully requested D douching.
2:44:16
Unknown: You've been de Deus
follow John's
2:44:19
Adam Curry: columns for years
but COVID and Adams first Rogan
2:44:22
appearance hit me in the mouth
for good stuff V for me, Jeff
2:44:25
Alton. Greensborough Nancy.
2:44:28
John C Dvorak: Chris Fosgate in
Kansas City Missoura 33333
2:44:34
Congrats on 16 years you're
indeed the best podcast in
2:44:37
universe please de douche me. No
jingles just karma. Chris
2:44:41
Fosgate Kansas City.
2:44:45
Adam Curry: Van De deuced you've
got karma. You're him England in
2:44:53
Balanga Sweden. 251st Associate
Executive producer says thanks
2:44:58
for all the deconstruction
gentlemen and We're happy to
2:45:00
bring it to you. Thank you for
supporting us
2:45:02
John C Dvorak: sir pursuit of
peace and tranquility in Midland
2:45:06
Georgia. To to to rove ducks to
to please accept this shorter
2:45:11
row of ducks have tu tu tu tu tu
tu for the month of October to
2:45:15
keep myself current no I looked
at I was looking at the digital
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clock and it said 555 I'm taking
five is it would be a row swans
2:45:26
So for somebody who was to up
the ante on this Oh Swan I'm now
2:45:29
declaring that five five 5.55 is
a row of Swan one donation good
2:45:35
one. Yeah, he goes on with this
sincerely. No jingles no karma
2:45:39
as her pursuit of peace and
tranquility in the lands of the
2:45:42
red clay and the cherry trees
and Dame
2:45:44
Adam Curry: Sheila is in. A
really serious how studious
2:45:51
Espanya she's in Spain. To one
2.12 Adam and John. Love you
2:45:56
guys so much. ignore the haters.
We need you both. Please plug my
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holiday home in northern Spain.
Casa de la rosa.com Ca se l o
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agenda producers and free if you
ever want to go. Hey, I was
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going I was just there.
2:46:17
Unknown: Well, you blew it, man.
2:46:18
Adam Curry: Where's this
promotion then? Oh, I'm gonna
2:46:20
take a look at where's this
freebie at the time? Casilla.
2:46:24
Rose. I
2:46:25
John C Dvorak: don't want to see
it. You'll want it. You'll be
2:46:27
lucky. Am
2:46:28
Adam Curry: I gonna be irked? Oh
my god. I was beautiful. Ah. Ah.
2:46:36
This is it right near the water.
No. And there's a car it comes
2:46:40
with a car. No, there's a car. I
see a car. I'm betcha it comes
2:46:45
with a car. Wow. It's got the Wi
Fi as your sound system. It's
2:46:50
Pet Friendly. Phoebe can go it's
got riverfront garden under
2:46:55
floor heating. Oh, fire bowl and
fireplace.
2:47:00
John C Dvorak: And fireball.
2:47:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, Fireball.
Good. Well, thank you very much,
2:47:05
Dave. Sheila
2:47:06
John C Dvorak: Casia rose looks
cool. See you there. Linda
2:47:08
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just find Linda Lubetkin under
the show's producer list. I
2:47:23
wonder how she's doing with this
promotion?
2:47:25
Adam Curry: Well, clearly she
she likes you reading it. That
2:47:28
was a kind of a sloppy read, but
it is what it is. No,
2:47:33
John C Dvorak: it is what it is.
I'm gonna give her the I'll give
2:47:36
her the Phil Hartman read next
time,
2:47:38
Unknown: okay, jobs, jobs,
2:47:40
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
jog. Karma.
2:47:48
Adam Curry: And we want to thank
all of these executive and
2:47:51
Associate Executive Producers
profusely along with the new
2:47:56
PhDs. We'll do a little ceremony
for in a few minutes. And
2:47:59
remember that these titles are
just like the PhD these these
2:48:03
titles are official show
business credits. You can use
2:48:06
them anywhere credits are
recognized which is in show
2:48:08
business. You can even put them
on IMDb if you don't have an
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IMDB account, you can open one
put it right there. There are
2:48:15
hundreds almost probably close
to 1000 people who have no
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agenda credits on imdb.com
internationally recognized as a
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credit database. And thank you
all for your support for this
2:48:25
episode. And for those you who
have throughout 16 years have
2:48:29
supported us faithfully, thank
you for allowing us to do this
2:48:33
job. And John's gonna take us
through the 50s and then we got
2:48:36
lots of celebrations.
2:48:38
John C Dvorak: Chris wrink
starts us off in Austin, Texas
2:48:40
right down the street from where
you used to live. 160 16 And
2:48:45
these are all thanking us for 16
years Sir John's including from
2:48:48
London, UK 160s or Horatio in
Wadsworth, UK. We got two Brits
2:48:54
also 160 baulk over Bosch in
blue Vardan the Netherlands
2:49:01
Blair Vardan lair more than 160
JANET all good and Watkins
2:49:08
Ville, Georgia 116 Timothy
Brashears in Cookeville,
2:49:13
Tennessee 160 in $10 bills he
says, Okay, well came through
2:49:18
Pay Pal, Sir Robert in Franklin,
North Carolina 160 Martin Walla
2:49:23
in Zwickau Deutschland 150 15.
So the 160s are over
2:49:30
Dragonslayer St. George 138
Alina stru in Calgary, Alberta
2:49:38
100. Kevin McLaughlin is in at
808 As usual, Breast Cancer
2:49:43
Awareness Month, big or small,
let's save them all. Craig
2:49:50
Conant in any field, Connecticut
808 and
2:49:53
Adam Curry: he becomes a night
so he doesn't want jingles or
2:49:56
Karma. He also wants to be on
the birthday list which I
2:49:58
believe he's on dystonia. nation
puts me over the level for
2:50:01
knighthood. couldn't think of a
better birthday present. I would
2:50:03
like to be served on taco. Can I
please have an old fashioned and
2:50:06
some tacos at the roundtable?
You bet and we'll see you in a
2:50:09
few minutes Craig,
2:50:11
John C Dvorak: and followed by
Sir Eric in Punta Gorda, Florida
2:50:13
at 808 is also going to be
upgraded you'll be abandoned
2:50:16
eidetic Yeah, he'll
2:50:17
Adam Curry: be first set of
boobs makes me though this set
2:50:20
of boobs makes me a Baronet
would like to be known as Sir
2:50:22
Eric the Baronet and protector
of the fat point. Pizzi is a D
2:50:26
bag. Got a man see in a minute,
2:50:30
John C Dvorak: Eric in in
Southampton New York 808 Nisa, D
2:50:33
douching.
2:50:35
Unknown: Ben de deuced.
2:50:38
John C Dvorak: Ray's or in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 808
2:50:42
needs a de Deus
2:50:45
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:50:47
John C Dvorak: David German in
North Tora Mora in New South
2:50:50
Wales, Australia. 808 love those
fun bags. David Cohen was in the
2:50:56
getting into the David Cohen in
Berkeley California. At g douche
2:51:03
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
2:51:05
John C Dvorak: Not only meet JD
Yes, go to a meet up I'll be
2:51:08
there once in a while. Chad
Farrow and champers Burg
2:51:12
Pennsylvania at Brian Kaufman in
Scottsdale, Arizona 7575 Quarry
2:51:17
rule in Marion Iowa 7146 is
actually called Marion ruli and
2:51:25
he needs a douchebag call out
for Sergeant no whack. Parker
2:51:31
foals in Roswell, New Mexico
needs a D douching and the six
2:51:38
Unknown: D deuced
2:51:40
John C Dvorak: 66 for him and
there we go to 606 Sir Kevin
2:51:44
McLaughlin are Archduke of Luna
lover of American boobs 606
2:51:49
Breast Cancer Awareness Month
saved the love melons Dame
2:51:54
Rebecca Pinehurst North Carolina
606 South Jersey's better men's
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tumor meet up that's where the
tumor came to meet in Parlin New
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Jersey 60 kosher donation for
the South Jersey doing okay when
2:52:12
you guys got 60 in sir Sir Brian
Tobias in in Gardner, Kansas
2:52:18
5888 got a birthday shout out,
sir Glen of Raleigh, Raleigh,
2:52:22
North Carolina 5510 Sir Mark a
mega Peyo in Cerritos,
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California 51 tan he's one of
the guys who claims to have been
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with us since the beginning. And
I'll take his word for it.
2:52:33
Surprise, surprise night of
astonishment Yukon, Oklahoma.
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5444. Roger church in
Greensboro, North Carolina 5333
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surgeon in Westford,
Massachusetts. I got this D 77.
2:52:51
And
2:52:52
Adam Curry: he sent me the note
in the morning as happy 16th
2:52:55
anniversary I've been a producer
since 2015, mostly on monthly
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donations and enjoy the twice a
week media deconstruction shows
2:53:02
up later fantastic. A small
donation was sent via PayPal to
2:53:05
celebrate the sweet 16. I'd like
to get her birthday shout out
2:53:08
from my daughter Mary who's 33
on the 26th of October. She also
2:53:12
needs some prayers and a healthy
dose of karma to help her
2:53:14
recover from dark times in a
recent life. And I'd like to
2:53:17
request the title upgrade to
Baronet. So he will indeed be
2:53:22
surgeon watcher of Stargate
protector of fish and that will
2:53:26
be a Baronet status and I've got
the karma for her coming up in a
2:53:31
moment.
2:53:32
John C Dvorak: Scott, Scott
Cooper in Milford Senator Ohio
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5001. And now we have the $50.
I'm sorry, Scott. That was 5016.
2:53:44
And then we have Scott Nelson at
5001. And he's in Council
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Bluffs. According to this, he's
in Iceland. But no, I think
2:53:53
that's must be replacement. And
I 's David Perdue, Snow Hill,
2:53:59
North Carolina starts off the
$50 donors and we're just gone
2:54:02
with name and location. And
Gaucho woodworking in Redondo
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Beach, California. Check by the
way, check them out. They do
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some fabulous products. I went
to the website, Michael Romano
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in Sebastopol, California, Alex
Delgado and Aptos Greg Huff in
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Austin, Kate Haskell and Sandra
fell. Daniel George and Danbury
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Brian Hummel, in Wimberley,
Texas, Diego Lopez creen in
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Ithaca, New York. Samuel Kennedy
in North Riverside, Illinois.
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Charles Boyd in San Marcos,
Texas Daniel Danielle Virsh in
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Kona, Wisconsin foul line farm
in Columbus, Georgia. John
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Walter in Wenatchee, Washington.
Amy roll in Buren, Washington.
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David's Like Cora in Casin,
Minnesota nuts for a Scott
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Virginia Douglas Ellis in New
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York City, Scott McCarty in
Lodi, Jack Schofield in
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yankeetown, Florida, Brian, Emin
Heiser in Lancaster, California,
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Wrath camp drums LLC in Ripon,
Wisconsin last on our list is
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can't call off in Dana Point
California these people made
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show 1602 success. And
2:55:36
Adam Curry: thank you all so
much everyone who has been here
2:55:39
as I said before, for a long
time that you miss something.
2:55:42
John C Dvorak: But yeah, David
Sikora needs a D dushi.
2:55:47
Unknown: D Do
2:55:49
Adam Curry: you get that karma
that we promised a couple of
2:55:51
people need that I
2:55:51
Unknown: think you've got karma.
2:55:53
Adam Curry: Thank you all and
thanks to everybody who came in
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typically is 4999 is one of
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those donations people like to
give us lots of times and of
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course, everybody was on the
smaller donations every single
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penny counts. It's all value.
It's all appreciated just as
2:56:11
much as any other amount. And as
you know many of you become
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knights in the long run if you
stick with it. Thank you all so
2:56:17
much. Thank you for your time
your talent and treasure and for
2:56:20
supporting the best podcast in
the universe for 16 years. Our
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formula is this. We go out we
get people in the mouth
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we kick it off with Ally J
turning 33 Tomorrow Happy
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Birthday ally Jason Bryan Tobias
in wishes his youngest Mateo a
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happy birthday turning seven
tomorrow. Greg conics turns 33
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on the 28th searchin wishing his
daughter a marry and 100 Marry a
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happy birthday she's turning 33
magic numbers gonna be a great
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year for your Mary sir basil
night of the warmer Karnes
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have oh we already got though
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Happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best podcast in the
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2:57:29
Unknown: don't want to be
induced
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Adam Curry: we have a number of
title changes sir Eric become
2:57:33
sir Eric, the Baronet and
protector of the fact point.
2:57:36
surgeon becomes Baronet, surgeon
watcher of the Stargate
2:57:40
protector of fish. And oh,
there's only those two. I keep
2:57:44
adding stuff in there, but we
want to cover all the bases. So
2:57:47
thank the both of you for
supporting the no agenda show in
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an additional amount of $1,000
bringing you up in the title
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status in our peerage And now
I'd like to invite Cody bass sir
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Dan the man Sir Nussbaum,
Maurice Miller, Chad Lawrence,
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Sir Who? Haley Porter, sir
Casavant and Scott Peterson,
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limited time promotion. Now we
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have a couple of oh, I have a
make good from Ron Vargo from
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Hoffman estates. Illinois. He
says yes, he gave us 160 For
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1600 episodes, and we want to
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on the last show. We have Dane
we got a couple of nights so I
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gonna get mine. Now. Nice.
Together. They're good. Cody
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Lawrence Craig Conant and Hayley
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one Dame today I'm proud to
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show would have been over by now
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Thank you know what?
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Well, no meetup reports today,
but I can report for you that we
3:00:44
have a couple taking place
today. The Mile High meetup at
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Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
call over a Colorado 630 We have
3:00:51
tomorrow I must be high number
14 At seven o'clock McSorley's
3:00:54
wonderful saloon and grill
that's in Toronto, Ontario can
3:00:58
kind of die as it's written
here. Also on Friday a spooky
3:01:02
Moveable Feast at Chinese after
dark six o'clock. shinies
3:01:06
biscuit Cafe Victoria, British
Columbia, Canada, two in a row
3:01:09
there on Saturday the ITM
Richmond at 130 Licking hole
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Creek craft brewery good
Goochland Gooch lands Virginia
3:01:18
Dame trail chicken hosting for
you also on Saturday the third
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fourth Saturday shrunken
amygdala support group make good
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meet up whoo two o'clock a task
group Orem Cincinnati, Ohio the
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Star Chamber of Idaho at three
o'clock in El Mariachi at Starr
3:01:33
Idaho. So we have Ohio and
Idaho. We go. Then we have TMI
3:01:39
evac zone Halloween costume
bash. Of course. That's why
3:01:42
there's so many meetups 330 at
Evergreen brewing in Camp Hill,
3:01:45
Pennsylvania. Flight of the no
agenda meetup that's in Los
3:01:48
Angeles. That's Leo Bravo, the
proud bird it's the 45th meet up
3:01:52
333 on Saturday. Also on
Saturday, the new government
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discussion six o'clock Amsterdam
Zurich time and bar Lifta stuff
3:02:00
in Zurich, Switzerland. Swiss
versus Swiss. Sir Swiss Sena is
3:02:04
organizing looking forward to a
meet up report from user Swiss
3:02:07
Anna on Sunday next show day
that'll be the that'll be
3:02:11
episode 16 103 Post marathon
Dublin meetup out Dublin Ireland
3:02:16
at the Waterloo bar I'll bet you
there's some cool Dubliners out
3:02:19
there. And finally on Sunday,
sir spooky is Halloween
3:02:22
spooktacular three o'clock
Brandon Johnson grocery time
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that Salerno is pizzeria and our
bar, Western Springs Illinois
3:02:31
and there's a lot more where
that came from all the way
3:02:33
through December. The keeper and
I will be attending on the 18th
3:02:37
in Austin Sunset Valley. Also on
the fourth of December in
3:02:41
Indianapolis, Indiana these are
the no agenda meetups it is
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essential essential in this day
and age of social media where
3:02:48
y'all get spun up you need to
look people in the eye see their
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facial expressions love each
other and above all get
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connection which breeds
protection no agenda meetups go
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to no agenda meetup.com If you
can't find one near you start
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one yourself it's easy and
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Unknown: you want to go hang out
with Dyson days. You'd be
3:03:12
triggered you'd be buddy feels
the same. Is like a party. Okay,
3:03:28
Adam Curry: let me see. Let me
see. I only have a couple couple
3:03:37
ISOs I'll go first I don't know
if any of them are any good.
3:03:39
Ready? Um, yeah, it's
unbelievable. These these guys
3:03:43
who politicians for a living
maybe a little long. While this
3:03:48
wasn't so bad.
3:03:50
John C Dvorak: I liked that one.
3:03:50
Adam Curry: That's Darren. I
like that one too.
3:03:52
Unknown: There's no agenda. I
3:03:54
John C Dvorak: only have one I
dropped
3:03:56
Adam Curry: a couple more. Or
two.
3:03:59
John C Dvorak: I said a couple.
Yeah, do a two.
3:04:02
Adam Curry: I have four. There's
no agenda at all. Okay, and
3:04:06
Unknown: trust your ability to
not drop a baby. No, no,
3:04:09
Adam Curry: no, I think I think
this is this wasn't so bad.
3:04:13
Unknown: Okay, you.
3:04:14
John C Dvorak: You're about to
get stay sane.
3:04:17
Adam Curry: Well, that's it you
just how do you? How do you stay
3:04:20
sane? We're going with Darren
Mize. We'll go with Darren well
3:04:23
this wasn't so bad. It makes so
much sense.
3:04:26
John C Dvorak: It's a good clip.
I
3:04:28
Adam Curry: like it good one's a
good one. You want to play us
3:04:31
out? I was gonna do the dead dog
story. But you kind of you
3:04:36
served me there
3:04:37
John C Dvorak: with the dead dog
sir has been done. Yeah, so
3:04:41
Well, I guess I do have to build
the Newsome clips I can play on
3:04:45
Sunday but I this play this this
will take this a good end of
3:04:48
show clip. Okay. Oh, sex,
please. We're millennials.
3:04:51
Unknown: A new study about young
Americans entertainment
3:04:54
consumption habit shows Gen Z is
much more interested in seeing
3:04:57
stories of platonic
relationships on screen Those
3:05:00
featuring sex and romance.
Embarrass clay Veltman says
3:05:03
University of California Los
Angeles researchers behind the
3:05:06
study are living the trend No
Man's
3:05:08
more than half of the 1500
adolescents who participated in
3:05:12
UCLA study say they want to see
more content focused on
3:05:17
friendships. A video
accompanying the research
3:05:19
captures some of their feelings
including Anna age 16 and Joseph
3:05:24
age 20.
3:05:25
From those media that has too
much sex me and my friends often
3:05:29
feel uncomfortable my friends
and I maybe awkwardly bear
3:05:33
through it. I think that sex
should the
3:05:35
researchers say Gen Z is chaste
entertainment preferences stem
3:05:39
for a craving for feel good
character relationships
3:05:41
following the isolation of the
pandemic years.
3:05:45
Adam Curry: We didn't fight
Nazis for you guys not to have
3:05:48
sex.
3:05:49
John C Dvorak: I've decided that
is the boomers that came in
3:05:52
because you watch movies classic
movies from the 30s and 40s. And
3:05:56
even the lot of the 50s there
were no sex scenes until I think
3:06:02
a couple of movies that started
to be produced by boomers who
3:06:06
are sex crazed are the ones who
had the orgies and the pre aids
3:06:11
group there was free sex
everywhere in the 60s and 70s
3:06:14
Good times. And so they brought
it into the movies and then they
3:06:19
and nowadays younger kids are
looking at going this is that's
3:06:22
not moving the story around.
This is never anything to do
3:06:25
with the plot. It's gratuitous
sex on the screen and they don't
3:06:30
want to see it I don't blame
them. I think this is righteous.
3:06:35
Adam Curry: Kind of do I get to
say it okay Boomer
3:06:39
John C Dvorak: okay renter
3:06:42
Adam Curry: no renter bro. I'm a
no agenda or thank you all for
3:06:46
being us with us for this show.
1602 We'll be back on Sunday
3:06:50
with another episode. Not sure
if Dantonio will be here. He
3:06:53
said he's coming back Thursday
but I'll just have to trust him.
3:06:57
Up next I know agenda stream Oh
new show. Mere Mortals book
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reviews chyron down from down
under my good friend chyron down
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you'll enjoy that kind of show
mixes sound guy Steve we got the
3:07:10
classic Conan salata and Matty J
to round it up 16 years, and we
3:07:18
never had a fight. And we'll do
at least another 10 episodes to
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guarantee you that God willing,
coming to you from the heart of
3:07:28
the Texas hill country here in
FEMA Region number six in the
3:07:31
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry in from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where I remain there
3:07:37
Jhansi Devorah
3:07:38
Adam Curry: will be back on
Sunday with another media
3:07:41
deconstruction just for you
remember us at the
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vortech.org/at a no agenda
donations.com. Until then, adios
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mofos Hui Hui, and such.
3:07:54
Unknown: It was the first time
in modern history a very
3:07:57
significant moment on the world
stage that an American president
3:08:00
went into a war zone not
controlled by the United States
3:08:04
sick and
3:08:05
tired or smart guys, President
3:08:07
Biden met with Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky.
3:08:09
During this unannounced trip I
got hairy leg
3:08:12
this moment is highly
significant.
3:08:15
He entered Ukraine under the
cover of night. In the morning,
3:08:19
Joe Biden walks shoulder to
shoulder with our allies on the
3:08:22
war torn streets.
3:08:24
Why does this matter to
Americans
3:08:25
standing up for democracy in a
place where a tyrant is waging
3:08:29
war to take it away?
3:08:31
Nobody likes through national
meetings
3:08:35
in the middle of a war zone. Joe
Biden showed the world what
3:08:38
America is made
3:08:40
of. But I tell you what, I don't
know about you, but I'm going to
3:08:42
go to bed.
3:08:43
That's the quiet strength of a
true leader who won't back down
3:08:47
to a
3:08:47
dictator. Look what I said go
back and read what I said by
3:08:53
President. That's what it is.
And by the way,
3:08:56
I got hairy leg. I'm Joe Biden.
and I approve this message.
3:09:01
John C Dvorak: And doing this
thing on some of these guys. Now
3:09:03
it's pretty funny. I say
bullcrap. When I put hashtag
3:09:07
blocked, frequently,
3:09:09
Unknown: ah.
3:09:16
John C Dvorak: Hashtag
3:09:18
Unknown: frequent, frequent,
frequent, frequent, frequent,
3:09:24
frequent, frequent, frequent.
3:09:29
John C Dvorak: What I do is go
and look and see what their
3:09:31
stuff looks like. is interesting
enough, I don't walk. I rarely
3:09:35
block him nowadays. I just put
blocks just to freak out. Just a
3:09:39
frequent nowadays, blocked
blocked cash take.
3:09:51
Unknown: Frequent, frequent,
frequent, frequent, frequent,
3:09:58
frequent frequent frequent in
the morning in the morning
3:10:08
morning
3:10:17
in the morning, morning in the
morning
3:10:41
MoPhO boruch.org/in a while this
wasn't so bad