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This your award winning
combination media assassination
episode 1707
Unknown: This is no agenda.
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Number six in the morning,
everybody, I'm Adam curry from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we all say Happy
Veterans Day to the veterans.
I'm Jhansi Dvorak. Greg
Adam Curry: Hill indeed we do.
There's a lot of veterans in our
no agenda nation producing
audience. Yes. A lot. And I want
to thank every single one of
them. Young men and women many
scarred from crazy ass crap
they've witnessed so
John C Dvorak: yes, we will
likely they report some of it
in. Yes.
Adam Curry: But having been just
to Iraq for 10 days and 2003
seeing the scarring, it's not
pretty. Are you wearing your
puppy?
John C Dvorak: You know, those
days are over in California, it
seems even though it's the puppy
state.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the Chinese
got all the puppies now. That's
what's happening there. Man. Oh,
man. Oh, man. There's some
interesting things happening. I
think we should start with the
new bull crap of the week. Which
I'm not quite sure why they
released this on Saturday.
John C Dvorak: There's new bull
crap.
Adam Curry: This is new bull
crap of the week. Yes. Yes. This
was an L
John C Dvorak: by the way. I
want to mention, Oh, speaking
Adam Curry: of bull crap in
advance. Yes.
John C Dvorak: I'm going to do a
three by three today. But more
importantly, I'm beginning and
we need a jingle for this. Oh,
the good news of the week that
you specifically requested. I
requested
Adam Curry: it. Yes, I did show
it shall we start with the three
by threes since we typically I
mean,
John C Dvorak: we can do the
three by three because a three
by three is is quite funny.
There's
Unknown: three by three.
Experiment by Jesse.
Comparing sto reefer ABCs
Adam Curry: everybody assigned
three JC D checks out three days
from the end of the week, but
I'm doing the intro. Jason.
John C Dvorak: We're done.
Jason.
Adam Curry: I'm done. I'm done.
All right, I'm done. Yes, three
stories from the mainstream
media from the same
John C Dvorak: three stories
presented three slightly
different ways. And these are
all about the war. So they're
all designed to traumatize the
audience. Yes. Using bringing in
some professional sound effects
guys to add different sound
effects and I'm starting with
the lesser the award. I'm going
to give it away the award for
the best presentation goes to
CBS. We're going to start with
the third place finisher.
Adam Curry: Wait Wait do we
start with CBS and we start with
John C Dvorak: no we start with
ABC which is the third place
finisher and ABC presents they
got the sound they got some
crazy fun house slide sound
effect at the beginning. A lot
of explosions. Nice. The stories
are the same. It's about
Israelis bombing the hospitals.
And they say there's there's
Hamas there that everyone over
there says no, there's none. And
then Blinken always says stop
the bombing. Here we go.
Unknown: Tonight the explosions
rental in Gaza is main
hospitals. THE MIDST those
fireballs buildings shut the
cries from the wounded. By night
the sky lit up by flares and
missiles. By Date Israeli troops
in close combat going building
to building room to room closing
their news on Northern Gaza news
the hospital's main parking lots
now housing tents filled with
people. The hallways crammed
with refugees gurneys bearing
the wounded lining the quarters.
Today in exclusion of Gaza, its
main hospital of Chifa. This
girl screaming why God why?
Israel saying the explosion was
caused by a failed Palestinian
rocket launch. Military
spokesman Peter Lerner says
Hamas has turned the hospitals
into their base of operations.
They have positioned all of
their capabilities in around and
beneath hospitals. But
there are 1000s of patients who
are wounded, some of them very
severely, who cannot be moved.
They can be moved. There are
ambulance services that are up
and running. It's a matter of
deciding to move them
but one of our chief was top
doctors telling me it can't be
done. What would happen if you
did have to evacuate all the
people who still remain
evacuate. It means you want me
to kill at least 100 patients at
home tonight with the
Palestinian saying the death
toll is over 11,000 The
strongest criticism yet by the
US of Israel's handling of the
war against Hamas. Far too many
Palestinians have been killed.
Far too many have suffered. But
Secretary of State Blinken
acknowledges Israel has opens
humanitarian corridors 1000s.
Today fleeing south on this
highway evacuation route
designed by the Israeli military
over 150,000, fleeing in just
the past two days, Lindsey
Israel has said that over the
past 24 hours its forces have
operated not just in the Gaza
Strip, but also in the West Bank
along the Red Sea in Syria and
in Lebanon, fighting this
Adam Curry: you know, I would
say that what does Bruno say
Bruno says this is a five I
think they blew it they blew
their effects wad right at the
beginning and then just slapped
it off. I
John C Dvorak: agree on your
percent but the thing that was
the kicker was Blinken.
Strongest words ever? preface it
with the strongest words ever by
the Secretary of State and they
cut into blink and saying to me
people killed
Adam Curry: me people die. Oh,
strong, so strong. strongest
ever. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that sucked. And
that was ABC, you know, which
comes out of Disney should have
some shows.
Adam Curry: going down the
tubes. They gotta get some new
people in there. It's
John C Dvorak: not good. So
let's go to the second place
finisher who will take the place
of the word winner if the other
one goes down in flames. But NBC
decides to let's add some better
explosions. As if they're there
during these explosions. And
let's up the ante with the guy
doing the reporting and bring in
a British voice. Yes,
Unknown: this was the sky of a
Gaza tonight in Israel's war
with Hamas. And overnight near
the Indonesian Hospital in Gaza
City of fiable. Five hours after
the White House says Israel
agreed to humanitarian pauses in
the fighting, but no ceasefire
close by above Al Shifa
Hospital. A projectile then
screams later, a second
explosion at the outpatient
clinic. My mother, my father, my
brother she cries. Tonight
Israel says radar evidence shows
one strike on the Al Shifa
Hospital was from a misfired
rocket from a Palestinian
terrorist organization. Israel
says Hamas has operated a
command center under El Sheikh
Adam Curry: Mohammed he did he
say the Palestinian or a
Palestinian terrorist
organization? That was
interesting. Let's listen
against radar evidence
Unknown: shows one strike on the
Al Shifa Hospital was from a
misfired rocket from a
Palestinian terrorist
organization. What
Adam Curry: does that even mean?
I mean there is the Palestinian
the Palestinian terrorists Well
John C Dvorak: I think that
refers to this other Islam I'll
Machado whoever the third group
is that crops up when it's
convenient.
Adam Curry: They mentioned and
then why don't why just a bit
like why so yeah, can
John C Dvorak: make it a good
point. They could bring it in
and we've been told not to. I
want
Adam Curry: to go back to the
Brit
Unknown: Israel says Hamas has
operated a command center under
Al Shifa Hospital, using
civilians as human shields.
Hamas has turned hospitals into
fortified positions. This is the
challenge that we are facing.
This is precisely why we're
encouraging people to go south
in a war zone with
Adam Curry: extra points extra
points for the for the nasally
voices sound effect is the
challenge that we are facing.
This
Unknown: is precisely why we're
encouraging people to go south.
You're in a war zone. Oh, yes.
You
were in a war zone.
We spoke to a doctor at Al Shifa
hospital tonight. Have you seen
any Hamas fighters, Islamic
Jihad, any group like that
they're
No, no, no, no, no, he
wants people won't allow them.
To us today with blunt criticism
of the civilian death toll. Far
too many Palestinians have
been killed. And we want to do
everything possible to prevent
harm drawn today,
pointing to these two
humanitarian corridors. It's
created under a continuing
exodus of foul palace. Bring it
back inside Gaza. Hamas still
hasn't released more hostages.
Israel says any ceasefire now
after the murder of 1200
Israelis would be a surrender to
Hamas. There
won't be a ceasefire without the
release of Israeli hostages. All
right here. Let's pick up right
there. You have new reporting on
the negotiations to free these
hostages, including Americans.
Tom an official with knowledge
of the tools tells me they've
stalled in the past over how
many hostages will be released.
And that is still a sticking
point tonight Tom despite
progress. It's
Adam Curry: interesting that
they are putting the Brits in
Yeah, who else is in there
speaking of Brits, you know
who's eight reporting from from
Gaza, just outside the Gaza
border is Douglas Murray. He was
he was did a whole half hour
with Piers Morgan. And weird
didn't know that he that he was
a an on the on the scene
reporter I thought he was a
public intellectual.
John C Dvorak: That's what I
thought. Anyway, let's So the
number one number let me let me
set it up. Okay. First of all,
they've decided to up the ante
because this is about trying to
traumatize the audience to get
him kind of glued to the set.
Yeah, of course, because when
they're traumatized, they're
more susceptible to advertising.
It's how it works. Then your
mind is open your property, your
shell shock, your shell shock,
and you can be propagandized
during that moment. Yes. And so
you want to traumatize so so CBS
has decided or they have better
people that are in the
backgrounds. Yeah, in the
background, they're doing a
sociology. So they said, screw
this. Screw the male voice
altogether. We like the British
voice. Let's bring in a female
British voice
Adam Curry: go and do they have
a sound effects? Are they good
on the
John C Dvorak: voice? And then
they said, here's the here's the
kicker. Instead of just bombing,
I think people are kind of
immune to phony baloney bombing.
Gunfire Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Bye. Bye. Bye, Bob. How about
just a lot of screaming and make
sure that we get a you have to
listen for this one. Make sure
you get a lot of screaming women
and men and get a baby crying
and put all that in there.
That'll traumatize the audience
and they do a beautiful job.
Unknown: A massive strike at the
Al Shifa hospital grounds gauzes
largest medical facility. Israel
insists Hamas is using hospitals
to coordinate attacks and hide
its commanders but sheltering
adults shifa. 1000s of
civilians. They're one place of
refuge of bloodsoaked
battlegrounds.
Adam Curry: Extra points for the
script,
Unknown: reeling in disbelief.
This man shouts they bombed the
hospitals. Nearby, a young girl
Breakstone trying hysterically.
My mom, my father, my
Adam Curry: brother. Oh, wow. So
they're not even subtitling
anymore. They're just giving you
they're just translating it on
the fly. When she's acting,
she's acting it out. This is
this is very good. At best it
is.
Unknown: Nearby, a young girl
Breakstone trying hysterically.
My mom, my father, my brother.
Inside, doctors and nurses fight
another wall.
Adam Curry: Many guests are they
operating by cell phone lights
the battle to
Unknown: keep the injured alive
with virtually every critical
medical supply running out.
Today. At least five hospitals
have been caught up in the
fighting, including one for
children. Here this video
appears to show a pediatric
hospital surrounded by Israeli
military vehicles. worn down by
wall hunger and exhaustion
civilians flee Al Shifa to, only
to run headlong into more
danger. Even the evacuation
corridor is not spared the
spiraling civilian death toll so
Secretary of State Antony
Blinken issue one of his most
direct condemnations to date,
wow.
Adam Curry: So they've changed
it from strongest words ever to
most direct condemnation to date
far too many Palestinians have
been killed. Far too many have
suffered.
Unknown: Israel has to do more
to minimize harm. We just can't
ferret any more try echoed by
the Red Cross, which says Gaza's
health system has reached the
point of no return. Outro and
questioned by the media, the
Israeli military said we don't
fire on hospitals, Nora, but if
we see her mouth firing from
them, we will do what we need to
do,
Adam Curry: man, so she is on
location. And she's you know,
presumably in either a hotel
room or some kind of facility
they have. And she's like, you
know, I'm I really got to spice
this up. Let me act out what the
people are saying. Yeah, that's
great. That's
John C Dvorak: great. This is
and this is probably, although
we kind of scoff at it and laugh
at it. And in fact, praise it
for its professionalism,
ingenuity. It's disgusting. Of
course it is. It's horrible.
totally disgusting, of course,
and it's exact same report to
get the hospitals under attack.
You got the doctors in the
hospital you got the screaming
women. You've got the throat a
blink and stupid comment. That
is not one thing or another he
just kind of bland and say the
least I mean,
Adam Curry: it's really it's his
most. I mean his most what was
the term they used? some harsh
words to date. Really. Too many
people have been killed you can
say that about every war. How
about the Hutus and the Tutsis
John C Dvorak: never there this
is your example of the media
trying to traumatize the on his
kids to get them to buy stuff.
It's bad by far as I'm
concerned. That's the only
reason they're they're going to
such an extreme here. This is
not reporting now this is
preamble they're not there.
There's not people behind them
running around with their hair
on fire like it sounds.
Adam Curry: This is Mind
conditioning to prepare you for
pharma advertising, which is
probably most probably an
antidepressant.
John C Dvorak: So a lot of those
Adam Curry: three, three he
didn't once again stay Roman by
JC de nom experiment anymore.
Unknown: fairings don't read
from ABC
Adam Curry: it is your three by
three I guess it's back. I
understand the clip custodian
helps you out though the clip
collector helped you out with
that. The clip collector
collector Very good. Well,
unfortunately, he
John C Dvorak: does a good job
of getting the he's good at
understanding this the idea that
Adam Curry: all of our clip
dudes are they get Fortunately,
I have to kind of go over your
head and say that there was
someone who said much harsher
words than Antony Blinken.
Unknown: Yo yo Oh,
Adam Curry: much harsher words
only not the word you would
expect any appeared on State of
the Union was dynamite. Or Shawn
CNN here is the one and only
lady G Lindy upgrades.
Unknown: You've said there
should be no limit to what
Israel can do to take out Hamas.
But is the administration right
that Israel needs to do more to
protect civilians in Gaza
Adam Curry: jam on Lindy Hop
don't disappoint us now. Well, I
Unknown: think Israel is
committed to following the
conflict. One thing I want to
say for sure, is Israel's not
engaged in genocide. And then
another thing we need to deal
with is the whitewashing of the
status of people who
Adam Curry: watch that
whitewashing.
John C Dvorak: Yes, why does he
want to say it for sure? One
thing I want to say for sure,
well, that's just like
highlighting I mean, other
words, he's got something here
that he's been told to say. Yes,
Adam Curry: and in the kicker,
which is coming after this,
you'll hear what he really
wanted to say. I'm
Unknown: sure there are plenty
of people would love to be free
from Hamas, but the most
radicalized people on the planet
live in the Gaza Strip. They've
been taught since birth to kill
and hate the Jews. How do you
teach math in Gaza? Get 10 Jews
and you kill six How many would
be left?
Adam Curry: Whoa he's doing bits
he's
John C Dvorak: doing dick.
Adam Curry: I mean, does he
really does he realize how this
guy does realize how he sounds?
Let me let me see let's hear
that joke again.
Unknown: To kill in hate the
Jews. How do you teach math in
Gaza? Get 10 Jews and you kill
six? How many would be left?
Adam Curry: Nice delivery. Well
done. Lindsey. Well done that's
Unknown: been in their school
system after World War Two. Did
Adam Curry: you hear that? Edit
they just edited right there
boom
Unknown: and Jews and you kill
six? How many would be left?
That's been in their school
system after World War Two. Did
anybody ask these questions? You
got to realize the United States
dropped two atomic bombs on
cities in Japan to end the war i
Adam Curry: and that was great.
But what a great thing we did
there. I mean, I still love that
picture of the young girl with
her flesh burned off. Lindsay
that was great. Who
Unknown: did anybody ask us
these questions? You got to
realize the United States
dropped two atomic bombs on
cities in Japan to end the war.
I think this is total war
between Israel and Hamas. I want
to protect innocent people as
much as possible. But I want the
world to realize that the
radicalized population in Gaza
has been going on for over a
decade. This will not be easy
when you've been taught to hate
the Jews and kill them all and
drive him into the sea. And
here's what I think 80% of the
people in Gaza support the idea
from the river to the sea.
That's this guy that has to
change.
Adam Curry: Thank you trolling
for correcting me the burnt off
flesh was Vietnam. Another fine
fine action that was that was
our Agent Orange. I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: No, not Agent
Orange. That was a napalm
herbicide is napalm but
Adam Curry: was at Maple
John C Dvorak: product at Dow
Chemical. Yes. Which I think
Adam Curry: is now round up. I'm
not sure No. So but he was not
done there. No, no, but after
we've had a little bit of stick
and a little bit of hey, you
know, it's like we propped it we
had we ended the war by dropping
two nukes hand hand hand maybe.
But let's bring back in our own
military industrial complex who
has a firm grip on his tiny
teeny testicles introducing
Unknown: a bipartisan sense of
the Senate Resolution tomorrow
about Iran. Senator Graham, what
will it say?
Adam Curry: Oh, that resolution
this is important resolutions is
where we all agree on saying the
same thing and we vote on it,
then we say it. Well, it
basically
Unknown: says if the war expands
if Hezbollah opens up a second
front in the north against
Israel in a substantial way to
overwhelm Iron Dome, then we
should hit the Islamic Republic
of Iran. In fact, I would say
bomb a bomb and then bomb again.
There is no Hamas without the
Ayatollah support there's no
Hezbollah without without the
Ayatollah support the great
Satan in the regions, not
Israel, the or the United States
is Iran. Whoa,
Adam Curry: did he did he just
did he just flopped there? Where
do you say without
Unknown: the Ayatollah support
the great Satan in the regions
and not Israel? The or the
United States? Is Iran.
Adam Curry: Truth wants to come
out. Thanks, Lindsey. The Great
Satan speaks what a war monger
that man is that we need to hit
around but said it's hit Iran.
Let's just hit Iran.
John C Dvorak: He's just a cut
does he is he is the epitome of
a chicken hog.
Adam Curry: Chicken hawk. How
about chicken crap? That guy's
no good. is no good? He's no,
no, no, good. All right. Let's
step away from this for a
moment.
John C Dvorak: Because we're
going to step too far away,
because I do have a couple of
brackets
Adam Curry: I despise starting
with this. Now we're like in
five that will come due to it.
No, it's not too late. No,
John C Dvorak: we already
started with it. We can't You
can't start to show over.
Adam Curry: Well, then I shall
play another clip. The let me
see what is the one we want to
do here? Yes, I think we should
go to Europe. And play Macron
Lopez, el presidente a loop
president on the phones. And he
was interviewed by the baba say,
I think was BBC. And he wanted
to be very careful. You know, I
was like, I gotta kind of but
you know, I was like, I gotta be
careful what I say here,
because, you know, we don't want
a Muslim uprising in France. And
but yet again, we don't want the
Jews to be angry. So we got no,
I'm just gonna dance around it.
Unknown: You think Israel is
respecting those rules? The
international rules that you're
referring to?
Adam Curry: Yes. The
international rules. The rules.
Rules proportionality? Yes. Yes.
Look, look, look, I've had my
trade
John C Dvorak: with a French
accent. Look, look.
Unknown: Look, look in the very
first.
Adam Curry: Look, come over
here. Look, these,
Unknown: it's clear that the
motion to completion created a
situation where everybody was
just close to his role and
backing as and sharing the pain.
And we do share the pain. And we
do share the willingness to get
rid of tourism. We we know what
tourism means in France. But I
think there is no justification
precisely to attack civilians.
What I would like to just to
clarify with you. Are you saying
that Israel is guilty of
breaking international
humanitarian law? leading the
Adam Curry: witness? Potential?
No, I'm here. No, no, no. Luke,
Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke,
Unknown: international
humanitarian law, potential
here? Look, I think it's not the
proper way to approach a
question.
Adam Curry: It's not a proper
way to approach a question. I
agree, John, Luke,
Unknown: we do recognize their
right to protect themselves. And
one month after this to always
attack I think it would be not
the right way to deal with a
partner and friend just to see
you will be condemned and your
whole Cote de facto, today's
opinions are bombed. The fact
effectors babies ladies is old
people,
Adam Curry: babies, ladies and
old people look at
Unknown: bombed and killed
bombed service. No reason for
that. And marriage is messy. So
we do urge Israel to stop. I'm
not here to I'm not a judge. I'm
head of state. I just remind
everybody international law. I
call for a ceasefire. And I will
urge him for a ceasefire for him
anytime ceasefire.
Adam Curry: Everybody wants this
proportionality, which would
only prolong the the glee of the
military industrial complex.
Question, please do look.
John C Dvorak: How come nobody
at all that I can recall, as
asked for a ceasefire in
Ukraine? Luke.
Adam Curry: This is not a proper
way to approach a question. Of
course, we haven't called for
that but we'll get to that in a
moment. Because you got clips I
got what I have one more clip
because you know who's back on
the scene? Who has been on the
Justice for Palestine for blind
John C Dvorak: thought it was a
look at me Look, I mean, Lindsey
Adam Curry: Look, no, Abby
Martin is back.
John C Dvorak: Abby Martin is
back.
Unknown: The term human shield
is nothing more than a racist
veil that makes the dehumanizing
assertion. Oh, it's no church is
back
John C Dvorak: and more
communist than ever.
Unknown: Indeed, that's
children. The more rational
explanation is that there's no I
have
Adam Curry: to say she does have
an iconic voice. You recognize
because I was on the way back
from church, I was listening to
the clips in the car, and I
didn't even have to see the
clips. I didn't have to see the
titles of the clips. It
John C Dvorak: does have a very
distinctive voice very
distinctive, encourages
Unknown: the death of its
children. The more rational
explanation is that there's
nowhere to flee, and one of us
most densely populated places on
earth, and that every single
civilian location is considered
fair game to be bombed. However,
because of this,
John C Dvorak: I want to stop
this right here is one of the
most densest places on earth.
She says. I should point out
since I did I actually did some
research Don't tell me you
actually did some work. I
sometimes do
Adam Curry: I mean, wasn't a
slam on you. It was more slam on
the M five in
John C Dvorak: San Francisco is
four times the density. Let's
bomb it. New York City is I
think eight times as dense
Manhattan is eight times as
dense as as Gaza San Francisco's
four times as dense as Gaza
Adam Curry: and what size How
about the size? Is it the same
size?
John C Dvorak: No, it we were
talking about per kilometer,
kilometer BB I'm sorry, per
hectare per acre per mile per
square mile. Let's go with that.
I know you get to the right the
right measurement here shortly I
like I like square mile I like
history exact per square mile.
Manhattan and San Francisco are
respectively eight times and
four times more dense than Gaza
per square mile. Yeah, sorry.
Adam Curry: You know what the
most densely populated places
the troll the troll room.
John C Dvorak: You know, we
should do I don't even want to
get into Macau or some of these
other places that are extremely
dense. But just for easy
comparison, San Francisco and
Adam Curry: New York. All right,
well, this is for the troll
room. nonstick
John C Dvorak: Nope. And you
don't hear it anymore because
it's a nonsense claim has been
debunked. However,
Unknown: because of this
propaganda tactic. The constant
and indiscriminate bloodshed in
Gaza isn't seen as criminal or
deliberate. It's not seen as
criminal or deliberate by the
jority of people. But this is a
learn tactic. Attorney human
shield has been the Empires
favorite excuse to just the
Empire,
Adam Curry: the Empire empire.
What else Darth
John C Dvorak: Vader involved in
this,
Unknown: the term human shield
has been the Empire's favorite
excuse to justify mass slaughter
and its wars of conquest in
Libya, the year prior to the US
NATO bombing campaign. The human
shield talking point was used ad
nauseam in the lead up to the
Iraq War. The Bush
administration included the
human shield talking point as a
main tenant of his campaign
John C Dvorak: second do you
remember this I don't remember I
don't talk about in the Lippia
talking point that we both
picked up on was the was the
Viagra yes talking point
Adam Curry: and the cap that was
it what's the name of that other
drug the the cheap cocaine
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, that's
that seems to be cropping up
again. And I don't remember the
humans shield talking point
under any of these events except
this particular one. Worship
getting her writers
Adam Curry: heard. I've heard
she writes it herself. I've
heard human shields before. That
Bush might have said it. No, it
was just well beyond was just
check. What you will find it see
if we have any human shields.
Oh, hold on a second. I have a
human shield clip. I have a
human shield clip. 31 seconds.
This is from 2022. The
Unknown: other major story
overseas the days long siege at
a prison where 1000s of
suspected ISIS members are being
held ISIS fighters attacking the
facility in Syria last Thursday
in an attempt to free the ISIS
detainees. A coalition said the
attack has been contained after
the US called in airstrikes to
help an American backed militia
regain control. But some
militants are still holed up in
the section of the prison and
they're reportedly using
hundreds of detain children as
human shields. It's not clear
how many prisoners were able to
escape.
John C Dvorak: ISIS bastards.
Yes, it
Adam Curry: was also during the
Biden administration just
pointing it
Unknown: out talking point was
used ad nauseam in the lead up
to the Iraq War. The Bush
administration included the
humans sheild talking point as a
main tenant of his campaign, I
John C Dvorak: don't remember it
as a main tenant for show she's
a liar lies the woman is I hate
to say it. As much as you know
she's amusing. She's a liar.
Yes, that's what she got fired
from our tea. She
Adam Curry: couldn't even keep a
job there. Let's be honest about
it.
Unknown: Journalist robbing
Martin uncovered entire CIA
reports dedicated to Saddam's
devaluation of life through the
use of human shields. Bush even
preemptively tried to justify
the enormous civilian death toll
he knew was to come with the
invasion by declaring the former
Iraqi dictator plans to quote
shield his military and blamed
coalition forces for civilian
casualties that he has caused. I
guess there were a million human
shields in Iraq
Adam Curry: Mushies Okay, all
right. Well, that's a stretch a
little stretch there, no
stretch. Stretch, why don't you
just come out and say it in
fact, I
Unknown: would say bom bom, bom
again. At least judging
Adam Curry: means honest. She's
unhinged, but she's honest. All
right, what you got
John C Dvorak: on the last show,
you discuss some of the the kind
of the front, the front
organizations that are involved
in the protests and use that
money. And in that report, I do
not remember you mentioning my
all time favorite, which is the
world's Workers Party.
Socialist, some other socialist
services Socialist Workers Party
Adam Curry: and the No, I don't
remember
John C Dvorak: that. Well, the
point is, is that I find I've
got I got the clips could
isolate them. They're the guys
who used to do remember think T
dot h dot i n k. They did all
these they've been doing
protests as the should the
entire length of our show 60s
What they do is what they do
what they do, and they're a
bunch of communists. What's your
question? Yes, because
Adam Curry: I've seen some signs
of some of these. Some of the
protesters which by the way are
the same LGBTQ BLM millennials?
The new slogan is stopped
genocide Joe
John C Dvorak: Wow, I like it.
By the way, anybody out there if
you're going past I would like
to collect two or three of these
signs.
Adam Curry: Stop genocide Joe.
John C Dvorak: I would love to
have a copy of stop genocide Joe
if anybody can get get and help
pay for the shipping and just
get a hold
Adam Curry: and you have to be
wearing a cafe Cafe so he
pronounced the cafe
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to pronounce pronounce it. The
cafe where wherever one of those
pushy hats the
Adam Curry: I just have one of
those. I mean they must be
flipping out in Washington DC
about this genocide Joe? And by
the way, this is like a thing I
mean, I can just walk up to you
in a bar and say hey bro don't
genocide me bro. Now this is the
thing people just saying is
genocide a man you don't need
genocide me this is
John C Dvorak: probably the I
think the genocide Joe thing was
slipped in by the by the
intelligence agencies that want
to get rid of Joe Biden and this
is part of their scheme right
now genocide Joe is an OP it's
Adam Curry: and it's sticking it
sticking it's a good one
John C Dvorak: it's a good one
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well done. It's not
well
John C Dvorak: yeah, you have to
say it when it happens Hey, go
with protesters are Marxist part
one
Unknown: Oh, pro Palestinian
rallies popping up on the
streets and on college campuses
popping up as across the US
who's behind them. NTDs cine to
cure spoke with an expert on
Islamic terrorism as Ron Omani
to take a deep dive into the
investigative journalist and
author Asra Nomani tells NTD
that behind the pro Palestinian
protests in America is a
multimillion dollar orchestrated
campaign. Muslim organizations
that have now embedded
themselves in the West, and they
are the ones unleashing these
protesters against Israel and
Jews onto the streets and it's
at the campuses. What we have is
a multimillion dollar
orchestrated campaign. And I'm
speaking to you from the
trenches of that. Those efforts
in the street.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. NTD
on the beat, all right.
John C Dvorak: She's done that'd
be nice guy cut it. They're not
for any particular reason. But
the fact that she is on legible
illegible Well, I've seen on I'm
legible because illegible I
think refers to writings
unintelligible that's the word I
was looking for. Thank you, sir.
Yes. Anything. unintelligible
unintelligible to to the nth
degree and so I this was I just
ran this one through Adobe to
see if it could be fixed and it
was kinda she's still hard to
hear but is that oh, you ran it
through Adobe Good, good. And I
that but I ran through Adobe
with the front end. So in other
words, I ran this entire clip
through Adobe including the
clear part it to begin And
because I've not done that
before, just see if like it can
jack it up it can work at work I
wanted to see what it did to the
part that's already good. And it
does a pretty good job of
ignoring I
Adam Curry: have Adobe enhanced
clip myself today. So yeah,
John C Dvorak: let's so this is
Adobe enhance and it came out
pretty good. Alright, so here we
go into with the with the gist
of it.
Unknown: No money shows NTD
posters she picked up following
a pro Palestinian rally last
Saturday. And you get the signs
from the river to the sea.
Palestine will be brief. But
what was the chant that they
said in Arabic? Philistine Al
Arabiya, which leads Palestine
is Arab, from the river to the
seat so they have code and who
organized this one? The Islamist
group us Palestinian community
network, one of the many
Islamist groups that believe in
political Islam. And who had
they aligned with that this is
what's so critical. You have to
be the fine print, as you know,
as a journalist, then with
Palestine and the occupation,
right, they use these the word
who is it that sponsored that
the Party for Socialism and
Liberation, Socialism and
Liberation? That's the far not
and who are they? multimillion
dollar global networks that are
trying to use the socialist our
left agenda into our nation?
They are alone, it's bad. Look
at this one. We're going to
break the fourth wall get
workers World Heart farm out on
units organization.
Adam Curry: You know, when I
hear this, and I'm thinking,
Boy, AI is a long way from
taking over the world. It did it
did a good job for us for sure.
Yeah. The workers world party
man. They've been and they've
got websites. We've been reading
their material. You're right.
Oh, yeah. Getting programs. It's
the beginning of
John C Dvorak: as they're the
ones who use the there's an old
term from the web two, or
whatever it was a long tail. Oh,
the
Adam Curry: the long tail. We
are on tail tail.
John C Dvorak: They use it to an
extreme. They have so many phony
baloney with they have probably
1000 websites that all look
strange. And they do a good
enough job of making sure they
don't look exactly the same.
They're pretty varied. And
they're but they're all their
their websites. And they all do
one thing after another. And
they
Adam Curry: probably they
probably fund Abby Martin's work
as well. I'm sure I wouldn't
John C Dvorak: be a bit, you
know, if it was if if they did,
it wouldn't surprise me.
Adam Curry: So as an example of
this, and as you know, we need
what we've seen, I was just
thinking about this. The trauma
we all had through COVID, which
was and we all had, we know you
didn't but everyone else has has
some residual trauma from family
members who shunned you from
friends who are no longer
friends from being called, you
know, a leper a leech a horrible
person to not being able to
breathe. And then we had in the
middle of that George Floyd and
we're like, No justice, no
peace. That chance, which really
started Occupy Wall Street if
you remember that, you know,
it's like Mic check, mic, check.
Mic check, mic check. And all of
that crap. But it has a Mic
check. But it's very effective.
And the chanting has become an
easy simple way to grab a
younger age demographic.
Particularly jingles it thank
you. Someone sent me. I don't
have a clip of it. Because it
doesn't really work without the
visuals. But someone sent me
sent me a campaign video for
Biden, Harris. I said, How Why?
Why is it that this is just so
compelling? And I said, Dude,
it's a whole rap jingle. That's
why it's always the jingle.
Always the jingle. And even
professional marketers don't
understand. Well, that's kind of
hokey. We had a jingle you know,
that's me.
John C Dvorak: You know, that's
funny. You say that? Because I
think there's some there's some
arrogant goes out. There's let
me go. Tell this is a story. I
can tell kind of about these
marketing guys. I went to when I
was taking, I took a lot of
courses in direct marketing that
first I took the seminars in New
York, but I've taken them over
time. And I took some major ones
in the San Francisco Bay are
there one or two day seminars?
And there was a message they all
of these guys always had. Don't
try to be funny. Don't be funny.
Don't do anything funny. Don't
do any humor, whatever you do.
And I on the show we had on Tech
TV called Big thinkers. I got to
it interviewed Jay ChIAT.
Adam Curry: From Shai day, very
famous, very bad guy, very, very
John C Dvorak: famous. So we had
drinks with him afterwards. And
I asked him about this
specifically. And he says it
stems from an old book, he says
is bullshit. For one thing.
Didn't you know how to be funny?
You?
Adam Curry: Didn't take didn't
shy a day. They certainly did
Apple. Yeah, they did apples.
They also did Coca Cola, I
think.
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
they did. I think so. Did they
did they did the best Apple
stuff. Yeah. And he said that,
if you know how to be funny,
this is a great way to do it.
And Stan Freeburg, for example,
had a whole agency doing nothing
but humorous ads, you have to be
to be careful not to funny, so
nobody remembers the product. He
says just you just have to know
how to do it. He says it all
stems from one book that one of
the old timers wrote some years
ago where he put that in there
as an edict and everybody just
mows it. And this is the kind of
thing these guys generally
speaking, don't understand
anything. Now they're the
marketing guys now, so they
wouldn't get it. Yeah. How White
would jingles I don't know is,
you know, it's I don't know,
how, why is that we're just make
sense. This
Adam Curry: year, it doesn't
make sense at all. Whereas we
understand how well it works.
And example if you see that is
not an official government
dzingel But it shouldn't be.
John C Dvorak: It should have
been years ago. Anyway. It's
more
Adam Curry: tribal than that.
It's more simplistic, you know,
as the Hey, hey, ho ho. Mele.
Donald Trump has got to go. But
Georgetown, they took up the the
river to the sea.
I mean, this is good stuff. And
that's I mean, that's as good as
any Hitler chant. It even sounds
like one is good. I mean, that
is correct. If that's effective,
and all the kids have the
kyphosis they're all clad in
that Kifah clad, if I'm saying
it right, even,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
it is. I don't know what you're
talking about.
Adam Curry: That's the scarfs.
The
John C Dvorak: Palestinian,
though that Palestinian Scarfie
I have one of those. So of
course you do it in Israel. And
Adam Curry: CNN this morning,
we're back to Danna bash. She
must be listening to the show
because she's taking a page from
the John C. Dvorak script.
Unknown: The fact that anti
semitism and by the way, a lot
of experts say we should just
call it and do hate.
Adam Curry: There it is. Let's
just call it what it is. Just
call it a Jew hate
Unknown: anti semitism. And by
the way, a lot of experts say we
should just call it and do hate
on anti semitism because
Adam Curry: a lot of experts say
we just call it Jew hate. Oh my
god. Okay. What is going on
here? Because, you know, it
sounds like though is it only
the world Workers Party? No. Is
it only the CIA in the military
industrial complex now, that's
not really people and human
entities. It's the evil rulers
and authorities of the unseen
world. dark powers, pure evil in
the universe. That's what this
is. And by forcing people to
pick sides, you're just playing
into it. And that only benefits
another dark force in the human
world, which is the political
parties who wants you to do
anything? Anything but look
around at your own your own
environment, your own city?
Which I have to say by the way,
San Francisco is cleaned up
nicely cleaned up I mean, I even
got a report yes on the ground
reports from people about how
nicely it's done. Oh, the
John C Dvorak: city is
beautiful. This city this is
what the city should be like all
the time. But why can't it be?
They don't want it this way.
They want it to be poop lot
pooped, it would poop all over.
Yes.
Adam Curry: Well, that's not
going to happen. But anyway, I
think I have to say, this is
we're not going to Iran is not
going to take the bait. And
Lindsey Graham, he's when has he
been right on anything? So you
know, he's
John C Dvorak: he's just he is a
stooge. It has to do with this.
It was his campaign financing is
due to the military industrial
complex, and I don't know
specifically who I don't look at
his numbers. I don't care who
cares. He can get voted out
anyway. But he takes a lot of
money from these guys and he He
says what they want him to say.
Or what he thinks they want him
to say.
Adam Curry: Exactly. For sure
when he says to be sure, for
sure. When I want to say for
sure. That's when he's parroting
the talking points. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So this is really divide
and conquer. Divide people
divide again it this is no
different from Mas no mas Vax
Novak's red, blue, Trump, no
trump, it's all the same thing.
And many of our own no agenda
nation get my nation people are
falling for it.
John C Dvorak: Oh, boy, how can
you not you're in a data we
played that three by three?
Yeah, you no matter where you
go, I mean, I'm sure Fox has
very similar reports. We don't
have that it's not a four by
four. And it's fine. If you
unless you live in a hole and
you don't take in any media,
you're gonna fall for it.
Because that's what they want
you to do. So you buy stuff?
Adam Curry: Yes. Buy stuff. All
right now, can I get to the new
bullcrap of the day?
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's about
time. Yes, the new bull crap of
Adam Curry: the day, we have an
Emmy, I should have you how many
times in your life as a
journalist, a member of the
press? Have you worked on a
story and agreed to release your
own reporting together at the
same time on the same day? So
there's a big international
story. You're an American
publication, there's a European
publication, and you're working
on it together. So you can break
the story on the same day? How
many times have we actually seen
this happen? Have you ever
witnessed and
John C Dvorak: been involved in
that level of reporting, but I
can say this, I think it
happens. The only thing is is
done by agreement. here's the
here's here's how it would
happen. You there's exclusive
sources that you have and this
exclusive sources the other
publication has, and you agree
to exchange sources and
background information if
neither one of you throws it out
there first. It's not an unusual
situation.
Adam Curry: So but it could be a
massive op.
John C Dvorak: It could be but
this happens. This happens used
to happen in tech a lot where
everybody was they had a Do you
see is like the embargo until
2pm, blah, blah, blah.
Adam Curry: But that's more like
there's an embargo was more that
there's a press release. That's
like the new iPhone. Day.
John C Dvorak: It could be you
could be it could be a live
event, and then you still behind
bars.
Adam Curry: But not breaking
breaking news, something? I
think
John C Dvorak: I think there was
a deal. Yeah, it does happen. I
don't think it's not shocking to
me as it seems to be to you.
Adam Curry: What kind of story
sources would the Washington
Post and their Spiegel have in
common?
John C Dvorak: They wouldn't
have any many in common. And
that's why this deal would have
been done in the first place so
they can swap sources.
Adam Curry: Well, here it is.
Because now we're done. There's
no more question. The riddle has
been solved.
Unknown: The man in this picture
is Colonel Roman chevensky. It
shows him in a classroom in
Kyiv, where he is being held on
charges of abusing his power
during a plot to Lua a Russian
pilot to defect to Ukraine. Now
here's the subject of another
investigation. According to an
exclusive from the Washington
Post and Spiegel he was central
to the controversial bombing of
the Nord Stream natural gas
pipelines. No sources have
painted a picture of him
managing logistics for a six
person team that rented a
sailboat under false identities
and dove deep into the Baltic
Sea to plant explosive charges
on the gas pipelines. They say
he didn't act alone and that his
orders ultimately came from
senior military officials. The
act of sabotage was condemned by
the West after it left only one
of four gas links in the network
intact. Ahead of a looming
European winter. Nord Stream one
and two pipelines run from
Russia to Germany and provide
energy to millions of people in
Europe. Critically, the Nord
Stream bypasses Ukraine.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
Zelensky has previously denied
Ukrainian involvement in the
explosion. Walker. Bush the
Ukrainians definitely didn't do
it definitely didn't like and
that is the most important
thing. Yeah. Someone said there
was some signs or even a certain
Ukrainian flag. It's funny to be
honest. What we're interested in
is arms deliveries and or
victory.
Adam Curry: So I think that This
was put together. Before
John C Dvorak: you start, I'm
going to backup off and what I
said, because I didn't know this
story. The story is obviously
what you're going to say see is
an OP. It's an office bowl crap.
By
Adam Curry: the way, did she say
Lozinski? Or Zelinsky?
John C Dvorak: I thought she
said Zelinsky. Back in
Unknown: Europe. Critically, the
Nord Stream button Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky has
no she says
Adam Curry: What an idiot. I
think that this signals a
change. And the change here is
let's start slowly ending this
war by getting the EU
John C Dvorak: pissed. You've
been saying this for a year. Now
we're getting there by
Adam Curry: by getting the
European Union angry that this
was Ukraine. This is Ukraine.
Ukraine blew up the pipeline.
Volodymyr Lozinski, clearly does
not have the military under his
grasp. Things have to change.
There's no other reason for
this. This is this is a done
story.
John C Dvorak: Why all of us?
I'm 100%. Yeah, I'm 100% with
you on this. This is a dumb
story. There's no it is a
signaling story. And you have
two groups of journalistic
institutions that are controlled
by intelligence agencies do just
do to institute villages. You
got two groups do stooges Der
Spiegel and Washington Post
controlled by outside influences
and they're doing this to get to
send a message a worldwide
message.
Adam Curry: There's some other
things going on not really
widely discussed, of course,
Ukraine run by President
Vladimir Allah Zelensky. I
can't. I can't stop saying
they're not part of the European
Union and Poland is sick and
tired of it Ukrainian
Unknown: truck drivers and
gridlock on the Polish border.
Traditionally close allies
competition in the transport
sector has caused tensions
between the two countries,
leading Polish truckers to block
crossings for a fourth
consecutive day. One driver on
route to Estonia labeled Poland
a transit country and called for
the roads to be reopened.
Know that people go who are not
going to Poland. Going further.
afield. We're going further. We
don't need Poland.
Others forwarded the blame
towards politicians. Limulus
Chappelle said obviously it's
not the drivers and businessmen
who are doing anything wrong,
not me. Yes, the political
ambitions of the polls.
The EU weight payments for
Ukrainian transport companies
entering the block after
Russia's invasion last year. But
the Polish protesters want those
permits reinstated. Claiming the
competition is unfair. Getting
myself across on those tiny
chips. Those companies are much
cheaper because they don't have
permits. And they pay their
employees much less than we pay
our employees. Meanwhile,
Ukrainian truckers left at a
standstill.
You see there is a ditch in a
field and no toilets nothing as
round of conditions can you
expect?
cubes is around 20,000 trucks
are blocked on both sides of the
border with estimated wait times
ranging up to six days. Wow.
Adam Curry: So that's a problem
there? Well, this
John C Dvorak: is it this?
Shouldn't we need to discuss
this a little bit. Because at
the beginning the polls were all
gung ho on this war because they
hate the Russians. But I think
at some level they hate the
Ukrainians as much. The
Ukrainians are troublemakers are
basically Russians, if for all
practical purposes, in terms of
their their culture, Poland
Adam Curry: live next to this
has been next to this country
forever. They know exactly
what's for sale there. They've
know this is not some mystery to
the Polish, like right
corruption, drugs, cookers,
money laundering, all of that
Ukraine. I love it. They know
this they know what's going on.
John C Dvorak: And now the
Ukrainians are in their face and
it's like we don't want him here
and we're now we're getting sick
of this stupid war various issue
for us and let's do something
about it and nobody wants to do
anything about it. Now
Adam Curry: now we have these
dichotomies these these these
weird, and this is what this is
what's messing up politics right
now. I mean, I was like, Well,
you know, we're supporting
Israel, but our base that we
have mind control with chants
are calling our leader genocide
Joe, you know, this, like, save
the Gaza babies but abortion and
I was like, my brain is freaking
out. And now Amnesty
International comes in. Amnesty
Unknown: International has
accused the West The governments
that support Israel's invasion
of Gaza have double standards
when compared with its
condemnation of Russia's
invasion of Ukraine. And the
group Secretary General told the
Paris Peace Forum that the West
ants posed a threat to human
rights. It
is reflected right now in the
double standard that we are
witnessing the Western bloc
demanding that we all rush to
the Defense of Ukraine as we
should, because Ukraine has been
aggressed by Russia, and they
are unbelievable suffering in
Ukraine. And at the same times,
telling us not to act on the
multipole bombing for the
absolute suffering of the people
of Giza. The double standard of
those governments, you know, to
me are the biggest threat to
human rights right now. Your
work is
a forum is an annual event that
involves governments,
nongovernmental organizations
and others who discuss global
crises. I'm
Adam Curry: not really sure what
side they're on now, but they
make a point. We didn't get any
propaganda about dead babies in
Ukraine.
John C Dvorak: Did we know at
worst, the ceasefire, as I
mentioned earlier? Did you see
nobody's calling for a
ceasefire?
Adam Curry: No. Did you see the
there was a story that kind of
came and went for a specific
reason. The story that that flew
by, I think was maybe Friday was
Hamas was threatening to shoot
fentanyl tipped rockets into
Israel.
John C Dvorak: So that story
came and went it came and went
Unknown: because of this story.
The letter in Georgia is among
more than a dozen sent to
election offices in at least
five states. One letter says End
elections now. Another warns of
white powder and reference
communists both featured symbols
of left wing groups law
enforcement sources say the
letters sent across the country
appear to be threats to scare
rather than seriously harm.
They're intentionally trying to
break us break us enough to stop
elections and that's not going
to happen. It quite frankly that
the opposite. It lit a fire
underneath us
investigators are working to
track down the sender using the
message is symbols and paper
itself along with examining the
stamps for fingerprints to
pinpoint the location where the
envelopes are dropped in the
mail. Now
Adam Curry: this is CBS my
friend Jeff gays.
John C Dvorak: I have a thought
he was on NBC
Adam Curry: ABC, CBS, this is
from CBS. I don't know why. I
thought Jeff Briggs was always
CBS. Thank you. You're confusing
me now.
John C Dvorak: I don't hear
enough from him. So it's, you
know, it's easy to forget where
you are, you know, CBS
Adam Curry: died. I look
according to the wiki pedia.
He's a CBS News correspondent
but thank you for CBS. So what
does he say here? Or what what
did the official say hello I'm
gonna go back
Unknown: here stop elections.
And that's not going to happen.
It quite frankly that the
opposite. It lit a fire
underneath us
investigators are working to
track down the sender using the
message is symbols and paper
itself.
Adam Curry: Trying to track down
the messages using the symbols
the paper itself and not a
single one of the M five M
networks and I have I could play
more stories. In fact, I
probably will play CNN after
this. If you freeze frame and
look at the letter, the letter
that was sent it says stop
giving power to the right. And
it has three symbols on the
paper, a trans flag, an Antifa
symbol and a satanic pentagram
who would that be coming from
but none of them mention it?
This is this is your chicken
crap reporting right here. This
is really really bad. You this
showing the letters.
John C Dvorak: You can see it
Yeah, they are and they're
showing the three symbols, but
Adam Curry: not a single one
mentioned it. That's that's
really egregious. If it's really
wrong with
Unknown: examining the stamps
for fingerprints to pinpoint the
location.
John C Dvorak: Would you
specifically think of sending it
Adam Curry: someone who's trans
on Tifa and a Satanist. Hello,
how hard is this?
Unknown: Or dropped in the mail
right now the focus of appears
to be on the Pacific Northwest.
Heartland,
Adam Curry: the scene of less
activity,
Unknown: someone is trying to
make people fearful as they
opened ballots as they respond
to routine correspondence. And
this this is the exact
definition of domestic
terrorism,
Adam Curry: which kind of makes
you want to think oh, that must
be a white supremacist.
Unknown: All right. Like these
are having an impact on them
volunteers working at the polls,
nor according to recent survey
by the Brennan Center, one in
five election workers is left
their job in part because
they're concerned about their
safety. It's a
Adam Curry: threat to democracy,
to threats. You know, what,
honestly, if you want a profile
of the person, I'd say the the
Nashville shooter, there's your
profile right there. I
John C Dvorak: think so too.
Now. It's interesting, she say
threat to democracy, because
that is that's code. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: Trump for Trump.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: So she's saying
that. Okay, so what you're
saying I didn't think about
this, and he sense that you are
thinking about it, is that this
person is, or the group is
easily identifiable by those
three symbols. That's those
three symbols represent them,
and you probably do, especially
that one Antifa sem symbol,
which is not a common one, you
don't see it that much. But
which is the arrows pointing
down? And you have so you have
you have the modern gave that
whatever, the progressive gay
flag, you have the Antifa. And
you have the Satanist. Yeah. And
no, and you're right, not one
report has mentioned any of
that. They just kind of point as
the three symbols. They never
say what they mean. And they
never equate it to the to the
letter in any way. And then they
follow up with this with the
antiTrump comment, as if he's
got anything to do with those
three groups,
Adam Curry: whereas they never
called the Nashville shooter. A
domestic terrorist. No, but
it's, this is exactly the
profile of person I would be
looking for. In fact, if I was
at the news desk, I'd say write
this in there. This could be
someone like the Nashville
shooter. And of course, we can't
even acknowledge I acknowledge
did speak
John C Dvorak: to a story. I had
to bring this story. I love your
stories. I
Adam Curry: mean, I cut this for
the deconstruction my father,
John C Dvorak: this is a story.
I've got three clips, two clips.
Oh, wow. All right. Actually,
maybe there's only one clip.
This is disappointing to see
what you just said is, I think
confirmed by this story, which
you never heard of. It's another
trans kid. And this trans kid is
a fat dude who who's not, I
think in junior high, and he's a
fat dude, who would have
obviously in my looking at him,
would it become probably a
premier programmer of the fat
style?
Adam Curry: Black black nail
polish fingernail polish.
John C Dvorak: Well, I never saw
his fingers. Okay, but they be
turned into a girl supposedly.
And he's still looks like a fat
kid. And he's, and this is one
of those stories that the
national media could have picked
up on if you're on the on the
national desk you could have
picked up on any of the local
papers could be picked up by but
no, it's an isolated story. And
I think these stories are all
over the country. I was turned
on to by somebody sent me some
clips from Colorado Springs
channel 11. And this is the
channel 11 story on the trans
kid found guilty a person
Unknown: who authorities say
threatened several mass
shootings in Colorado Springs
has taken a plea deal. Lily
Whitworth is from Elbert County.
We told you earlier this year
that Whitworth was arrested
after her sister told deputies
she was threatening to shoot
people at a school in district
20 And also at a future 11. A
supporter Erin Vento is
following this case today. Aaron
Whitworth is pleading guilty to
an entirely new charge Adam Lily
who was initially identified by
her birth name William and these
arrest papers pleaded guilty to
second degree assault. That's a
class four felony deputies with
Elbert County Sheriff's Office.
They this all came from not only
a threat to shoot people at
those locations you mentioned
but also a manifesto detailing
her plans. The rest papers they
were specifically named
timberview middle school saying
she went there now Tony told us
she never spent more than a few
months at their schools saying
what worth only spent a full
semester at one of their middle
schools. They were across with
the 18th judicial districts as
with this plea with faces a
maximum of 16 years in prison. I
am just grateful that nothing
happened. No one was injured. We
got a conviction and law
enforcement in this particular
case was able to be proactive
and stop a potential threat
before something happened
earlier this year at D 20.
Credit with SR with saving many
lives by reporting those
threats.
Adam Curry: Well good I'm
Colorado Springs channel 11 for
reporting this because I can all
already predict what's going to
happen. These news
organizations, and as you know,
journalists are being killed
left and right in, in Gaza?
Well, I would say there's a
chance because of the reporting
that's being done from some of
the some of the networks and
that kind of wishy washy in a
way, you know, you they should
watch out, they could have one
of these crazy trans kids show
up and start shooting up a
station or dropping fentanyl at
a at a television station or
network. Have there's this is
this is really dangerous, not
for not the people you would
think it's dangerous for.
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? Interesting point, I think
you're right. I
Adam Curry: mean, these days, if
you are anti LGBTQ and, and
that's just a conglomerate, but
I would say this guy from Tyler,
Texas, who happens to be a
bishop. Like he happens to be
gay happens to be a bishop, I
would say that his main issue
was probably trans in the
church, or the sparkle services
on if you've heard any of Have
you seen those videos of the
sparkle services?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
So no, like a horse.
Adam Curry: So, Pope Francis,
kick this guy out of the church.
Unknown: Well, it is a fairly
rare move. I mean, for a bishop
to be effectively fired in this
way. I mean, normally, as you
mentioned, perhaps there's some
issues and investigation is
carried out and the bishop
usually is asked to resign for
the good of the Diocese, and for
the church at large. But Joseph
Strickland, the 65 year old
Bishop of Tyler in Texas, in the
United States said he made it
clear that he was not going to
resign that he had been given
the mandate by the former Pope
Benedict, the 16th. And his
flock needed him. And so as a
result, a one line statement
effectively came out of the
Vatican, saying that Francis had
relieved him from his position.
Now he had been a leading voice,
a traditionalist, a
conservative, a vocal critic of
Pope Francis, he had said that
the Pope had in the past that
had undermined the Catholic
faith, and that yet threatened
its basic truths. And in fact,
he had criticized this recent
month long meeting that happened
at the Vatican, the Synod, in
which bishops from all around
the world were gathered
together, as well as some lay
people to discuss about some hot
button topics such as the role
of women in the church, as well
as the role of LGBTQ Catholics,
and he had question this very
meeting. So an investigation had
been held earlier this year into
his governance of his diocese,
lay people as well as priests
had been interviewed. And so,
the recommendation had been made
to Francis that he be removed.
So clearly, right now, this
fairly rare move has been taken,
and he has been removed from his
position.
Adam Curry: relieved of duty by
like that, from this bishop is
relieved of duty. I tell you, so
this is a dangerous situation.
And and that's not going to be
dangerous for the people you
think it is, you know, the left
under the these three symbols
trans because it's not just it
wasn't just an LGBTQ flag, John
was the trail is a big is to
translate trans flag and Tifa
known problems throughout the
world, not just in America. And
the satanists, not always the
good guys, as far as I'm
concerned. The journalists need
to be very careful, very
careful, because this is unhinge
behavior. And fentanyl. They're
going to rue the day that they
that they didn't really focus on
the fentanyl story other than
Oh, the Sacklers Oh, the
Sacklers did it the Sacklers did
it. You will ruin it. I gotta
tell you, I'm thinking like, I
just want a little bit of
personal Narcan. Now.
John C Dvorak: You can get it
you probably get it free if you
play your cards right.
Adam Curry: Let's see if we have
any information on it. Let's see
if we can get an Arcand ad out
of CNN. Do
Unknown: you have more insight
into these letters who they were
addressed to and what they said
for Georgia? Not yet. This
Adam Curry: is Brad. He's the
governor of Georgia. What's his
name? Brad.
John C Dvorak: That guy, that
guy. What we
Unknown: haven't been informed
by by the postal officials is
that there's a letter in
transit. So it's a three to five
day transit through their
system. And so obviously they'll
try it interest fact that when
it comes to the Atlanta
processing facility, but it
hasn't arrived to Georgia yet,
so we don't know that will be
intercepted. And that's why we
prepared staff at the Fulton
County election office.
Adam Curry: So that reference
burger and apparently there's a
there's a letter in transit, if
Unknown: it does actually make
it through our system, and it
arrives, this is what you do and
how you'd handle it.
How do you know that it's in
trick? Like, what's the
information that lets you know
it's in transit? How do
officials know that
postal official has some
capabilities? I guess that they
don't talk about much?
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
John C Dvorak: This is low slope
barcode along the bottom of your
envelope, you see that long
code? Yeah, very long. Yeah.
That's what they're talking
about
Unknown: tracking. And based on
what they saw in other
locations, they were identify
that there was another letter
that was obviously another
letter postmark for GA.
And you haven't heard of any
suspects? Or who may have sent
these at this point, right?
Not at this time? No, no, I
understand from just readings
that they do have identified the
potential suspect, but they're
gonna keep that very close to,
you know, close to their chest.
Adam Curry: Mm hmm. So I think
this is this is a bigger problem
than this. The fact that we had
no because now we also have was
a story from Bloomberg here. Let
me
John C Dvorak: we have to
mention just in passing, the
number of times that DEA
officers and others who are
picking up or grabbing a big
shipment of fentanyl, some guy
just touches a pack package.
Yeah, can and drops. From you
know, just from just casual
contact. In fact, there's
another store in Colorado
Springs I can play before you
play your clip here, which is
this, which incorporates both
fentanyl in the story, but also
some sort of I think some sort
of reverse insurance fraud
within insurance companies. You
as a is maybe defrauding its
customers in some really screwy
way play this reverse insurance
fraud one clip from from channel
11.
Unknown: Now first story that
you're only going to see here on
11 News. A family is speaking
out after they say their son's
Jeep was stolen from their
garage after a break in. They
tell us that the Jeep was
recovered, but was deemed a
total loss rather totaled by
insurance after we tested
positive for fentanyl that will
love a news reporter Jared Dean
is live with us right now. Now
Jared, this family says that
this Jeep was their son's dream
car. Yeah, Aaron, the roads tell
me that their son's Jeep was
labeled as a biohazard by
insurance. But they later found
it on an auction website, taking
bids. Now they tell me that
they've been on and off the
phone with insurance to figure
out why that jeep was on that
website. wasn't
aware of how big this kind of
problem is, especially with
everything you hear that I
offend all is a it's a big deal.
So when it tested positive, the
insurance company immediately
considered it a total loss.
In September, the Rhodes family
tells me their house was broken
into and their son's Jeep was
stolen. It was recovered in
Pueblo. But when their insurance
company did their inspection, it
tested positive for fentanyl.
They later found the Jeep on the
auction site seal part with the
label, biohazard
and even had fentanyl written
across the windshield. That's
when the two contacted their
insurance asking why the Jeep
was available for auction.
Despite the Jeep being labeled
as totaled.
I started monitoring their site
and come to find out they put it
up for auction. So which that
that's what really disturbed
us USAA sent them a message back
saying in part quote, for any
vehicles being deemed a total
loss for the presence of drugs
such as fentanyl, these vehicles
are not supposed to be listed as
available for auction. The jeep
was then taken off the site
after road said he had several
calls with insurance road says
that he is still has questions
about how his son's Jeep ended
up on the site in the first
place.
But my big thing is how many
times this happened before and
how many times it's going to
continue to happen if it's not
addressed.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well here we
are. Here we are. Fentanyl it's
just for rednecks. Now now it's
a bigger problem than you think.
John C Dvorak: It was a guy that
ever doing so I don't have a
clip but there was an
interesting interview with
somebody about this saying oh
the fentanyl it's in there it's
moved to heroin out just keep
forming heroin. So they he was
doing some research he's one of
these guys on the street he says
these these these guys looking
for a high heroin high when they
heard of fentanyl and the effect
it is more powerful. They all
flocked to it. They wanted
fentanyl yes yes one heroin
anymore. It's no good groovy
Adam Curry: Now we know this. We
know this and now the fentanyl
users want tranq because it's
even better. We heard that from
our own drug dealer insufferable
was that's what drug users do.
You When You're addicted, it's
like oh man, I can get even I
mean, I know it's risky, but it
can be even a bigger high. Our
own drug former drug addicts and
current drug addicts have told
us this. Meanwhile, Indivior PLC
just got $111 million contract
for Narcan whoop B as the US
readies for airborne
bioterrorism with fentanyl and
fentanyl like drugs. According
to Bloomberg. And reminder,
opioid gas was used in the 2002
Russian hostage situation. So
the Russians could probably be
doing it. Those are Russian
those Russians? Yeah, this is
this is the this is an actual
problem that I that that gives
me it's not
John C Dvorak: being addressed
is what you're trying to say.
Yeah. And it hasn't been
addressed as Ben ignored,
correct. It's been ignored by
the government. Because they're
Adam Curry: probably a part of
the problem. Well, they are part
of the problem, but who knows
how deep it goes. Who knows?
Now, you sent out a newsletter,
which is always always fun,
always fun to read the
newsletter. And in the
newsletter you wrote about this.
This article in The Philadelphia
Inquirer, I believe, yes,
Philadelphia, you want to give
us the background because I have
some clips to discuss this. Yes,
this
John C Dvorak: article is a
being extolled. I'd like to keep
up with the with everybody. In
other words, they don't just
listen to no agenda socialists,
other people that but they all
tend to be left wing, if not
Marxist, but they lean. They
lean left and they're all a lot
of them are journalists. And in
fact, there's even once a
professor of journalism, and
they everybody went nuts when
this article came out. And this
article we should have a link in
the show notes I'm sure you'll
put it in it's in there of
course. This article is in the
Philadelphia Inquirer by this
guy. I think his name is bunch
and or let me
Adam Curry: read the headline.
With the world on fire. A
cowardly timid news media is a
threat to us democracy, subhead,
news organizations are using
cowardly words to describe the
killing abroad and fascism at
home downplaying the danger to
democracy. And there's a picture
of Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson
the threat to the democracy
himself. Mike Johnson, the new
speaker of the house.
John C Dvorak: No, I you you've
made it. I heard a boop sound
like you're just disconnected.
Nope. Mike Johnson, where whose
view is a fine, man. Very fine.
But the whole piece goes on a
very fine man on both sides. As
the piece goes on, and on and on
about mostly Republicans and
Trump and Trump being the real
he's a genuine threat. By the
way, our country's over, as we
know it. And all these guys are
all in on this threat to
democracy threat and Trump
threat to democracy. All you
would have, he would have
already wiped us out. There
would be no more democracy if he
had his way the first time
around. And Joy Bay hearts
actually literally said that.
Yes. And so so everybody went
gaga googoo over this article,
and what the article actually
says is that reporters should
not be reporting they should be
advocating they should be
activists. Yes. And everybody
thinks this is a great idea for
today's news media to be more
activist than they already are.
Who are we kidding?
Adam Curry: So this, as you
said, it stems from a New York
Times article, which is just it
was just so weak, because
everything all news, all
newspapers, all news outlets,
everything in the United States,
for sure, takes their cues from
what the New York Times writes.
And then, and the activist news
media are very disappointed that
the New York Times is not doing
what the you know, where's the
database, bring back the
database of his lies. So here's
CBS and this and this comes from
a couple of different places
that Trump was on Univision.
Univision is now a problem.
Univision? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: saw by the way,
they
Adam Curry: threw him softball,
softball. It was
John C Dvorak: it was it was
boring. But it turns out that
throwing Trump's off balls makes
them boring needs to be get
asked hard questions so he can
go off for
Adam Curry: this is, in fact,
this is the funny part about it.
If only the media would give him
softballs, he doesn't have good
sound bites for that. The minute
you are like you give him the
throw Trump softballs. He goes,
you know, okay, I'm just all
comfortable talking about this.
He doesn't go nuts. No, it's
boring is boring. It's
commercially not viable to do
this with Trump anyway, here's
CBS This Morning. This is part
of what Trump was saying that
that is this got everyone's, as
you would say tit and a ringer.
Former
Unknown: President Donald Trump
addressed the Spanish speaking
voters yesterday in an interview
with the Univision is aired last
night it was with Univision
correspondent and CBS News
contributor Enrique Acevedo, who
asked the former president if
you plan to use the FBI and the
Justice Department to target his
opponents, if he got a second
John C Dvorak: term, these could
certainly happen in reverse. It
could certainly happen
everywhere. What they've done is
they've released the genie out
of the box, you understand that
they've done something that
nobody thought would happen.
They've done indictments in
order to win an election, they
call it weaponization. And the
people aren't going to stand for
it. But yeah, they have done
something that allows the next
party I mean, if somebody if I
happen to be president, and I
see somebody who's doing well
and beating me very badly, I
say, go down and indict them.
Mostly what that would be, you
know, they would be out of
business. They'd be out they'd
be out of the election, with
Unknown: Trump is charged with
dozens of federal crimes. And he
is wrongdoing dozens of times,
in fact, for every case, every
case.
Adam Curry: So if you really
want to know what's going on
with the media, you need to go
to NPR to the show on the media,
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR
Adam Curry: or PBS and on the
media, which was a particularly
annoying episode as they
completely rewrote the history
of podcasting. But that's an
aside, it's not all
John C Dvorak: that. Well, by
the way, their shows are all
annoying. And the fact that they
rewrite the history of
podcasting, it does not surprise
me in the least they
Adam Curry: had me on on the
media to talk about it when this
when it was when podcasting was
first breaking. I mean, they
could have they could go yes.
John C Dvorak: Or they could
have pulled up an old clip.
Adam Curry: No, because they had
to cry about all their canceled
programming that that's what the
the piece was really about how
sad it was for their colleagues.
It was a swansong
John C Dvorak: to me because
they threw out instead of
putting together one or two
really cherry podcasts that
would really get some attention
and probably get some some legs.
They rolled out 30 or 40 Crappy
podcast, which is people
yakking? Well, no,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, you're
wrong. They threw out 30 or 40
podcasts, which we're, you know,
we're executive producers and
we're making $150,000 a year on
the shows each show had its own
executive producer and they paid
the talent top dollar, and it
was scripted and that you know,
they were treating it like radio
plays of the past. And what
they're pissed about is well, it
seems like just people who just
get on you know, personalities
who talk about stuff that
they're getting all the money
like Joe Rogan maybes Joe Rogan
and Dan bond Gino. Anyway,
John C Dvorak: so Codan Leoncino
bond
Adam Curry: decode bond, Gino,
Dan froomkin, you know, do damn
from canoes? Dan froomkin?
John C Dvorak: No,
Adam Curry: he's a douchebag.
And he works for he he? What is
the thing that he's on? Hold on
a second. He's, I see if I did
it, write it down. He's a part
of some, you know, like media
watchdogs site. Anyway, so damn,
from Ken. He's a prime example
of being all upset about the
media not not getting into
Trump's face and not telling
people what he's really saying
that isn't the same
John C Dvorak: group. This is
what these guys do. And I would
refer back to an old show he did
probably seven years ago or so
when that news group showed up
to secret news group about
journos, which
Adam Curry: was in the email
list
John C Dvorak: or whatever it
Yeah, it was a list. And so
somebody outed him and they had
to close it down. But they've
rolled out a bunch of their
emails, and they're all
conspiring against Trump. And
all these writers that should
be, you know, objective, but
they're not. And so this same
group of people that I talked
about a minute ago that were all
giddy over this article and
saying, yeah, yeah, this guy's
one of them.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's a part of
press watch. Press watch.
Independent website previously
known as White House watch,
which really was Probably Trump
watch. Anyway, so here he is on
the media's multi clips but
entertaining unpressed.
Unknown: Watch your site you
wrote about some recent
reporting from the New York
Times in the Washington Post,
looking into Trump's intention
to select political appointees,
who will unquestioningly follow
his orders and turn the
prosecutorial power of the
Justice Department against his
political opponents. This was
the central reporting of what he
plans to do on day one if he's
reelected, but at the same time,
you felt that something was
lacking from this coverage.
There's two articles were
fantastic in some ways in that
they really looked at how would
trump govern how would trump be
the president, which is
something that is too often
overlooked in the data and doubt
incremental horsepox
John C Dvorak: toes what but he
hadn't read through his nose.
He's talking like this well, but
what is wrong with us though, is
that he can't breathe through.
The deviated septum is
Unknown: too often overlooked in
the data in doubt, incremental
horsemen's coverage, but what
you're seeing is that elite
journalists in our top
institutions lack the vocabulary
and the mechanics that are
really necessary to accurately
cover Trump right now that they
can't bring themselves to say
that he is delusional. They
can't bring themselves to say
that he's a would be dictator.
These articles, if you read
them, discerning reader,
describe Trump's plans. Pretty
alarmingly, they're getting rid
of any obstacle to the abuse of
power and gearing up to throw
political opponents in prison,
preparing to unleash the
military on peaceful domestic
protests. Okay.
Adam Curry: So now he's going to
deconstruct the actual reporting
by the New York Times, and I
learned a word
Unknown: in journalism, we often
look for what's called that
graph, which sort of like the
summary paragraph, the
Adam Curry: nut graph.
John C Dvorak: Is this something
that you've learned history for?
I've talked about the net graph
like years ago, but
Adam Curry: you've no I? Well, I
just think it's a nice term. I
think it's a show title, not
graph. It just said, credit just
sounds. It sounds dirty, not
graph. In journalism, we have a
thing called the nut graph.
Let's listen to the nut.
John C Dvorak: I want to say
something but the nutbrown
please do. Not graph which is
supposed to be one paragraph
somewhere in the article Hi,
usually high up meaning toward
the beginning, that kind of
summarizes the entire story in
one graph. And it's the nut of
the whole story. This has law as
far as I can tell, I see when so
rarely, this is died. This is
not happening anymore. I don't
know anyone. Because of the
nature of of layouts and
computerized layouts and and
endless stories at GM are on
forever. There's a lot of
reasons. But I don't believe the
nut graph is in play anymore.
And I don't think anyone looks
for it. And I think very few
people write one, I think is
bold crap.
Unknown: In journalism, we often
look for what's called that
graph, which sort of like the
summary paragraph. And this
case, the end of the graph was
that I have right here, quote,
critics have called such ideas
dangerous and unconstitutional.
That's the construction of a
story that has two sides that
are equally valid. And one is
Person A says this. And critics
say he's wrong. That's no longer
adequate construction for what's
going on in this political
claim. It's
Adam Curry: no longer adequate.
And that's not adequate anymore.
It's not no,
John C Dvorak: because there's
not two sides of any story.
There's only one side our side.
Adam Curry: So as a little
intermezzo, no, I have one more
clip after this.
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
since you mentioned the
newsletter, I did point out in
there, that the worst example of
this and it probably exemplifies
all these clips, too, is the
Brooks and K part. Yes. segment
where these two guys are
fighting each other to agree
who's in more agreement with the
other guy. There's no longer and
it used to be a point
counterpoint. They had a guy
from the New Republic or not the
New Republic, but the National
Review, some some Indian guy who
they brought him on once and he
was really good at defending all
this the Republican side of all
these arguments, and it brought
insight into the into the
debate, but no, they can't have
that as one side, one side, one
side only. And that's what this
guy is expressing one side. No,
the other side is wrong. Not
graph.
Adam Curry: I just love it's a
good turn. It's like a trans
term, nut graph. Anyway, so
right now we're going to get a
quick example. They don't even
realize they're doing this,
because in a minute, you know,
he'll tell you what editors must
be doing. This is an example of
the type of reporting he feels
would be appropriate. As these
two nut graphs, the OT and the
on the media guy and this
Frumkin Jumoke are going to get
all giddy over how they would
report what happened with Trump
in the court
Unknown: and on Monday. He took
the stand under oath. This was a
historic event
coverage, if you were following
it and like the live blogs on
social media, what you heard was
an astonishing story of somebody
who is completely unhinged, who
was completely delusional, who
was smirking, who was making
faces who was being provocative,
who was taunting the judge. But
then the articles all came out.
They said things like, Trump
defends himself and attacks
judge. What's essentially
happening is these articles
cover up for Trump's unhinged
pneus. They basically unhinged
eyes.
Adam Curry: Is that a word?
unhinged? pneus? Is this a
journalist now a journalistic
term? What's
Unknown: essentially happening
is these articles cover up for
Trump's unhinged pneus. They
basically summarize a lot of
things that were crazy into a
few sentences that aren't crazy.
And so I think it's very
deceptive. I think that people
who read the main story the next
morning had no idea what really
happened that day. What
Adam Curry: are you drinking?
John C Dvorak: Oh, I heard you I
heard you can't pull or just the
plain old polar I when I if I
bring it closer to the mic and
open and make some serious
sound, then you know, I that's
the cue disempowered. I'm doing
this under my shirt away from
the mic a mile away, and you're
picking it up.
Adam Curry: You know, ever since
that operation, my ears are just
good. I can't help but my ears
are just sharp. Alright, let's
get back to an accurate
description of what Trump was
doing in court.
Unknown: On one hand, he gets to
put on his show make it seem
like it's a witch hunt, rile up
consumers of the right wing
media, who would be happy to see
that he was barking like a mad
dog at the judge in general. But
for the now,
Adam Curry: is that an accurate
description of what he was
doing? He was barking like a mad
dog at the judge?
John C Dvorak: No, but that's
the way they want, right?
Reporting to be from now on out
Unknown: exactly barking like a
mad dog at the judge and the
attorney general. But for the
legitimate press, it kind of
just seems like Well, yeah, if
you're a defendant, then you're
angry. And you make a case for
yourself. Right? Right.
I mean, I remember watching the
coverage of the COVID pandemic
under Trump and he'd get up and
he'd say something completely
nonsensical. Reporters would
fall all over themselves trying
to sort of make sense of it. And
it's this is this
Adam Curry: is a lie. By the
way. This is just not true. They
excoriated President Trump for
everything he said, during
COVID. Everything
John C Dvorak: hydroxychloroquine
is nonsensical, it's
Adam Curry: it's horsey warmer,
he's telling you to drink
bleach.
Unknown: I mean, I remember
watching the coverage of the
COVID pandemic under Trump and
he'd get up and he'd say
something completely
nonsensical. The reporters would
fall all over themselves trying
to sort of make sense of it and
explain what he just said. As
opposed to reporting. Donald
Trump just said a bunch of stuff
that made no sense.
Adam Curry: I think they said
that they said, they said that a
lot. He's unhinged your bowl.
John C Dvorak: They said that
most of the time. That's why I
have that Trump list. Yes,
Adam Curry: we're gonna play
that the end of show. Final,
final final clip. Now, Dan, from
Kim, the bastion of journalism
is going to explain, explain
what has to be done here. Dan,
this feels
Unknown: like deja vu all over
again. Well, I mean, we've been
hearing warnings from press
critics for years now. But what
Adam Curry: is with NPR is
chuckling the whole time. We've
been here
Unknown: again, I mean, we've
been hearing warnings from press
critics for years now about how
to cover Donald Trump in the
right way. Just this week,
Margaret Sullivan published a
piece in The Guardian titled The
public doesn't understand the
risks of a Trump victory. That's
the media's fault.
Great base.
Right. I agree that we have
culpability here and that we
could do it better. But it's
also the case that facts don't
seem to change minds like they
used to. There have been
warnings of his dangerous to our
democracy. And
Adam Curry: it has or have if
it's if it's plural, if it's had
if this warnings isn't it have
been have been warnings.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to stop
on this but they're being
possibly he's using your own.
Adam Curry: He said there has
been warnings come on. That's
not Kruk proper English, is it?
There have been warning and we
said there has been warnings.
John C Dvorak: There has been
warning.
Adam Curry: I don't care. Well,
since the topic is reporting
properly. Well,
John C Dvorak: you guys are
obviously off the rails already.
Unknown: It's also the case that
facts don't seem to change minds
like they used to. There have
been warnings of his dangerous
to our democracy. And you could
argue there aren't enough but
perhaps they're just not
sticking to
the press. critics have been
saying stuff like this for years
now, that's absolutely correct.
And they've not been heard. But
I think that at some point, it
may sink in, we may have to wait
until next generation of
editors, the leaders of our
newsrooms have just gotten used
to still covering what is
basically an asymmetrical
political climate, as if there
are two equal parties involved
in the discussion. My feeling is
at some point, oh, one of them
is going to wake up look in the
mirror and say, Wait a minute,
we're not doing this, right. We
need to reset because we are we
are not successfully informing
the American electronic
information organizations. At
some point, you just say, whoa,
whoa, doing isn't working.
That's what I think people like
Margot. So
Adam Curry: because journalism,
journalism has to work. It's
it's not so
John C Dvorak: it's already left
leaning. He wants to just go all
the way and he says there's no
two. There's no two sides. It's
all Democrats. There's no such
thing as Republicans are evil.
No, that's what he basically is
saying.
Adam Curry: He says, this is not
working. What is the point? What
is what is the outcome of
journalism? Is this supposed to
work for something? Is
journalism. So it's not
Unknown: changing the world?
Because we are, we are not
successfully informing the
American electorate. news
organizations at some point need
to say, Whoa, what we're doing
isn't working. That's Margaret
Sullivan. And Jay rose, and I
and a whole bunch of rows
John C Dvorak: and Jay.
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen, the
professor. The NYU professor of
journalism, didn't get didn't
get fired.
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think he did. Almost
second. No,
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Jay wrote, yes,
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen got fired.
I think maybe I'm wrong. He'd
John C Dvorak: land someplace in
a minute. Working.
Unknown: That's what I think
people like Margot Sullivan and
Jay Rose and I and a whole bunch
of other people who are you are
saying, Stop what you're doing.
Realize that it's not actually
getting the job done up and
forming the American people and
figure out how else to do it.
Adam Curry: In his mind,
informing the American people is
propaganda propaganda using the
American people. Yes. Yeah.
Well, here Leslie says she
brought it up. Well, I wanted to
play my example first. Well,
John C Dvorak: first of all, the
beer example of what the New
York court case no that he
mentioned. No,
Adam Curry: no. My example of a
journalist doing what he wants.
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'll play
that. But I wanted to get get
him on the record straight what
he said about just going on,
he's barking at the judge. And
what really,
Adam Curry: is it one clip or
multiple clips? Just one clip,
New York
John C Dvorak: case judicial
complaint?
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go.
allegations
Unknown: of misconduct against
New York judge Arthur and Goron.
A Congresswoman says the judge
is biased against former
President Trump in the financial
fraud trial. Why she says he's
showing clear judicial bias.
Here's our Legal Correspondent
Arlene Richards tonight.
Tonight,
Judge Arthur and Goran is on
notice that his behavior is not
acceptable and the financial
fraud case that accuses former
President Trump and two of his
sons of inflating his net worth
by as much as $2 billion.
Representative Elise Stefanik
says in a letter to a judicial
Ethics Commission, that the
judge has been displaying
bizarre behavior and bad
judgment. For example, She says
when Trump was on the stand, the
judge told him we are not here
to listen to what you have to
say. And he issued a gag order
against Trump that's to phonic
believes infringes on his
political speech rights. She
says it's unAmerican, and that
the order restraints Trump's
first amendment rights, the
judge ruled that the Trumps were
fraudulent before the trial
began. Stefanik says he made the
decision without witnesses other
evidence and cross examination,
and that the ruling was
ridiculous because he valued
Trump's Mar a Lago property at
$18 million when he had sworn
testimony from a real estate
agent, that it was worth
substantially more. Trump's
attorneys have accused the
judges law clerk of influencing
his decisions, and for that the
judge issued a gag order against
them. Stefanik says the judge
and his law clerk are donating
way too much to Democrats and
that it's against judicial
rules. She wants the commission
to take corrective action and
concludes that judge on Goren
must recuse himself from this
case
John C Dvorak: this funny kind
of a different report that we
got there from our NPR on the
media dude well let's
Adam Curry: go to MSNBC just to
get an idea of how it's supposed
not that they matter to this the
point the MSNBC it doesn't
matter that they don't matter
for the on the media dude. And
Frumkin Froome. Can that has to
be the new york times we have to
corrupt the source of where it
has to come from? Here's Velshi,
Unknown: good people who like
things like respecting election
results and rule of law not
attempting goos now have to
assume that Republicans cannot
or more likely will not stamp
out the threat of Trumpism in
their party. They've never
materialized for Republicans,
which was good news to democracy
in the 2022. midterms. My
Republicans really did get
trounced this week, which is
even wrong. Good news for
democracy. The leader of the
Republican Party has recently
been posting memes of the US
Capitol. Oh no on fire fire with
the words. I'm coming back to
clean up this mess. That
actually happened as the FBI was
in the midst of a manhunt to why
John C Dvorak: it actually
happened. It actually happened
This
Adam Curry: is breaking news.
Breaking news. It actually
happened. Hold on I
John C Dvorak: posted a meme.
Unknown: posted a meme of the
Republican Party has recently
been posting memes of the US
Capitol on fire not on fire with
the words. I'm coming back to
defacto clean up this mess. That
actually happened as the FBI was
in the midst of a manhunt today
for a capital rioter, a former
New Jersey National Guard police
sergeant, who was accused of
pepper spraying officers at the
Capitol on January 6, How
Adam Curry: insensitive he
posted a meme of the Capitol on
fire as they were arresting
someone who was at the Capitol.
Unknown: NBC reports that
Gregory Yetman was identified in
early 2022 by online sleuths who
go by the name sedition hunters,
a group that has aided in the
arrests of hundreds of capital
rioters sedition
Adam Curry: hunters. I've heard
a lot of hunters thing usually
in the porn category, but okay,
so edition hunters, the
Unknown: online sleuth said that
Yetman was seen unloading a
canister of chemical weapons
from behind the police line as
officers came under attack on
January 6 to a nice use of
chemical weapon nice ni 21. That
image of Yetman was featured in
a wanted poster released by the
FBI on Thursday, before he
finally surrendered. Do
Adam Curry: you remember Kathy
Griffin with the with the cut
off head of Trump remember that?
Remember how cool that was?
Those days? It was fabulous.
back those days.
Unknown: Now Trump hyping memes
of a burning capitol building
names while one of His followers
was literally put in handcuffs
today for allegedly attacking
it. That whole thing was met
with crickets from Republicans.
They can't or more likely where
they won't stand up to it.
John C Dvorak: And I'd like to
say so to stand up to it's just
an occurrence.
Adam Curry: I'd like to say once
again. There's a meme that I
hate memes
John C Dvorak: This is not what
is not a meme. It's a fact.
Adam Curry: I don't I hate bad
memes. I would like you're the
same liar who told people I hate
dogs. I had to go get a dog to
prove you're lying. To you
John C Dvorak: used to hate
dogs.
Adam Curry: I never hated took a
John C Dvorak: dog to bring the
love out of you.
Adam Curry: I think I have to
become the biggest shitposting
meme er of all time. Yes, I
John C Dvorak: think that would
convince me otherwise. I
Adam Curry: think that's gonna
have to have you would get the
shakes. I already have the
shakes. It can't get much worse
than it already is. I wish that
one of our no agenda memes was
being renamed by President meme.
But no, because most memes suck.
And if it's a good meme, I
always boost it. Like boost
memes
John C Dvorak: you boosted
recently you've begun to boost
memes I
Adam Curry: know. Boosted memes
John C Dvorak: recently you've
begun to boost memes to try to
change your reputation as a
meme. Okay,
Adam Curry: all right, you you
lie the you This is really I
can't believe you're doing this
to me 60 doing anything
John C Dvorak: to USD I have
never held show forces with a no
agenda social what you set up
that are doing this to you not
me I'm just agreeing with them.
Adam Curry: This is what I mean
to Brutus on believable,
believable No, I only hate bad
memes and people who send out
1000 Memes that's all they do.
Go to twitter to do your memes
If all you've got is Me me me me
me me me. Go somewhere else go
to Mastodon dot social and send
out your Oh, I'm sorry. That
won't let you have an account.
John C Dvorak: Get a quick clip
of time clip for the anime
thing. It was really funny.
Unknown: Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee
Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee
John C Dvorak: So, just to
change the topic for a minute,
let's
Adam Curry: please,
John C Dvorak: let's talk about
Jordan Peterson you talked about
in the last year. Oh yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: I by thought I
deconstructed the Ark and
John C Dvorak: he did a great
job. Yeah, but I have to say,
amazing PA. There's a Polly
Foley came out with a fairy. You
told me about it. Yep. No, I
Adam Curry: sent you the link. I
said, Look at this gory
John C Dvorak: ating. She's
good. But then there was an
earlier one wishes, which was
kind of the beginning of the
second one, but and it was worth
listening to because there's a
couple of bits in there that
were funny. I have two Jordan
Peterson clips to play. The
first one. I'm trying to think
which one I should play first.
But let me play this one first,
which is the Jordan Peterson
edit clip. And this is like, how
can John resist doing this edit
on this comment by Jordan
Peterson,
Unknown: January 27. I announced
on Joe Rogan's show that I had
been working with a group of
people in the UK and Europe and
Australia and New Zealand and
Canada, and the US, South
Carolina,
Arizona, and North Dakota and
New Mexico. We're going to
California and Texas and New
York. We're going to South
Dakota and Oregon and Washington
and Michigan. And then we go to
Washington DC to take back the
White House.
Adam Curry: Chapeau Shep Oh Shep
Oh, author off editor. So
John C Dvorak: I got that out of
my system. So which I like to do
about once a year with that
Adam Curry: was a good one. The
famous Dean scream never never
disappoints, it always. It
always deals a winner. It's a
winner.
John C Dvorak: So here is Jordan
Peterson talking about the
future. But this is from the
poly thing is basically Jordan
Peterson describing what they
think should be the future of
mankind, you know, some
futuristic vision. And then then
poly comes in with a comment at
the end, which is right on the
money. And I have something to
say about it to a
Unknown: group that I'm
describing is based on this
principle of subsidiarity. And
the idea that we want to
encourage everyone to take as
much responsibility as possible
at the most local level
possible, right? So take
responsibility for yourself
until you're good enough at
that. So you can take
responsibility, maybe for a
wife. And then if you're good
enough at that, maybe you can
extend that to some kids. And
then maybe you can serve your
local community. And then maybe
you can serve your state and
maybe if you really get good at
it, you could serve your nation,
as you see that still a
hierarchy right. And it sounds
actually kinda like what we live
with right now.
John C Dvorak: Okay, exactly
what we live with right now. He
brought up nothing. This is like
telling somebody, oh, here's how
you do it. This is how you get a
glass of water. You see the
steps that up to the house, you
take the step take you put your
left foot on the front, then put
his step up, up, step, step,
step two to get to the top of
the steps, then open the door to
the house, then close the door
behind you. And then go into the
kitchen, step into the kitchen,
and then turn on the faucet and
get yourself a drink of water
and then drink the water. This
is idiotic what he said. It's so
Ovid this is this is not
anything new. It's were brought
out something in her
discussions, which was that he
lost his memory for a whole
month while he was in Russia.
No, I didn't know this. But
during his treatment for his
drug addiction, which was cured,
and it was traumatic in his in
Russia, there's a month of his
life. He doesn't remember
something is wrong with Jordan
Peterson.
Adam Curry: What's wrong as he's
no longer entertaining? I mean,
I'll sit there and I'll watch it
from that
John C Dvorak: perspective. Yes,
but I think there's something
wrong wrong. But yes, yes.
You're right about
Adam Curry: that. Well, this is
this is a distinct difference
now was it after? I don't think
it was after the the drug
addiction because and it was
barbituates you know, when she
started taking because his wife
Ali and basically yeah, there's
a lot of issues and barbiturates
a hard man, it's hard to get off
of those. So and props to his
daughter for saving his life and
becoming a carnivore, which also
seems to have saved his life,
all kinds of things. And so I'm
not discrediting or discounting
any of that. But I would say the
minute he became part of the
daily wire, which in my mind,
this is now am 5am CANDACE
Owens, the Jordan Peterson at
the blaze as well, you know,
what's his name? The Rubin
Rubin. The other guy. Had the
black
John C Dvorak: guy, the black
and black guy, that big black
guy who can't remember his name
because nobody listens to his
stuff anymore.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Megyn Kelly,
Dan bond Geno code Bungie No.
John C Dvorak: Code Bungie No.
Adam Curry: What's his name? But
j is Jason Whitlock?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with like,
that's
Adam Curry: the black guy or
something. Something is wrong
with all of this. He really Is
there something off and I think,
you know,
John C Dvorak: to contact and
argue better than what you're
saying because I felt this way
and the one that when I first
got triggered by it was Rubin
because I always thought Dave
Rubin was great when he when he
was was great when he was doing
his thing in that little room
where the two people sat across
the table. And then all of a
sudden he became lame. Yep, yes,
Adam Curry: capital L is very
odd and I think he's competent.
Not Rubin, but Jordan Peterson
is compensating with a
symmetrical Joker light jackets.
What is up with that?
John C Dvorak: That means the
asymmetrical jacket is some sort
of giveaway.
Adam Curry: I'm wacky. Look at
me. I'm wacky. I mean, what
John C Dvorak: mounish Did you
Adam Curry: I sent you a
picture.
John C Dvorak: I'm a clown. Look
at me. Does Oh, he's missing his
big feet. And you know, red
nose? No, he actually looks like
a meet up with Koseki P looks
Adam Curry: like the Joker. It
does look like the Joker. If you
look at that most recent
interview, I sent you a picture
you
John C Dvorak: did and it was a
picture of the Joker and it just
exactly it just positioned the
same way. It just look like the
Joker. He looks like the Joker.
Adam Curry: He's faced
everything and he's wearing
those wacky asymmetrical
jackets. But what is the mess
look when I go on a show like
Rogen or Glenn Beck and Glenn
Beck you know he also has a part
of this problem this something
although it's not I think it's
business for him but these other
people it's mental and but I
think about what I wear you know
I discuss it with my wife what
she what I wear last time which
they wear what looks good in the
set that that jacket the
Petersons wearing it doesn't
look good in any set.
John C Dvorak: No, it looks
crazy it one that's not the only
one he's got another one's got
leather on one side. Yes, he's
got three or four of these
things. It's not like he's got
that one crazy jacket. Why?
Adam Curry: Why why? I don't
know but and I it will be easy
to say Oh, once you get paid
then it's easy. In fact, I think
the only person I was talking
with Mo about this yesterday,
the one person who may be able
but she has to she has to man up
is Candace Owens. She's sucked
into this she's smarter than
she's lost. She needs to get out
she needs to get out she used to
get away from Yeah, I think
you're right.
John C Dvorak: No she's she's
lost there are other women who
have kind of avoided it in some
fashion. I see Dana what's her
name the brunette she's kind of
like you know stayed away and
and then Tammy Lara and whatever
her name is. Oh, yeah, it
evolved.
Adam Curry: Oh no, but nah. Tamp
not Tammy. Tammy Lauren she's
now she's lost that she's no
good I don't know ma'am this
there's something going on with
the coop
John C Dvorak: This is a classic
coops co opted co option to get
co opted Yep, you pulled in now
all of a sudden you got suits
telling you what to do or you
get too much money and you
you're caring you're worried
about losing the stream of money
because it's so much or I don't
know I mean, we could have known
by you just saying I saying yes
to Glenn Beck when he asked you
to become one of these guys,
which I said you could have
reported back but I get the
feeling you wouldn't have
reported back. I would have been
lost. Gibbon lost just like the
rest have gone sucked into the
whole sucked into something
maybe they don't know maybe
they're being drugged.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's a
bug. And you get into a meal to
meal you. So you you lose
objectivity
John C Dvorak: and get a meal
you to adapt to a meal you is
not instantaneous.
Adam Curry: Now, but it didn't
happen overnight. This is what
John C Dvorak: seems to have not
took
Adam Curry: a while. It took a
while for him. I took a while. I
think anything that's on locals
that Trump that's probably a
slower burn but the locals crowd
John C Dvorak: you know, I have
yet to go into I refuse to get
involved with that. This is like
a paywall. You want to go to
locals and go do your own thing?
Go ahead. That's not gonna pay
any attention to it. But that's
Adam Curry: Glenn Greenwald is
on locals. Yep. Ty EB I think is
in some form of it. Yeah. Well,
these are the guys they admit
initially they were with
substack substack lost their
funding they actually tried to
do of crowdfunding round because
whatever they're doing wasn't
working.
John C Dvorak: I think they were
paying those guys too much way
too much. And then
Adam Curry: and Greenwald, anti
EB took their subscribers to
locals, which was I don't know
if that was part of a deal. I
remember
John C Dvorak: Tina, maybe you
can take your subscribers off of
substack. Well, Tina
Adam Curry: got an email and it
said you're subscription to Mata
Eb, on locals is about to renew.
And she said they just took my
credit card over to
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know you can do that hard to do
because those credit cards were
should have been. I don't know
how you. I don't know. I don't
know. I've never
Adam Curry: anyway, but my point
is there's something when you
join these clubs, which is the
antithesis of podcasting and
believe me, we learned didn't we
John, we learned with POD pod
show me via we learned because
what happens is you wind up a
slave to somebody whether it's
John C Dvorak: advertised and
you get to complain a lot.
Adam Curry: Why do you even say
that?
John C Dvorak: That's what they
do. Everybody all the podcasters
I worked at by show, they
complained. I complained
constantly. And I'm reminded
again, if I would bring this
story up, I told you before
we're Neil Rubin King did this
book for McGraw Hill. It was
called the Dawson. They can I
think was the name of that told
us
Adam Curry: Austin I can
remember I do remember Dawson
the cam. Were you a part of
that?
John C Dvorak: That Dawson
cancer was a book about how to
use dos? It was It may have been
windows but I think it was DOS
was this awesome.
Adam Curry: Product? Did
John C Dvorak: you package this?
No. I was not involved with the
DOS in the can. All right. But I
do it. But I was involved in
McGraw Hill at the time. I had
an imprint there. And so Dawson
Ken came out and it was a it was
a can that had a book in it. And
you had to open the can with a
can opener to get the book out.
And it was Dawson akan Hello,
very funny. But of course, we'll
put why this crazy product with
floppies no floppies now he
couldn't get a floppy in the
can. So so so. So the book was a
flop. And all you heard from
Neil Rubin King was complaints
then I putting enough marketing
money behind Mike Dawson at
Kent. And it was just one thing
after another and so and so you
work in a publishing company you
hear nothing but complaining,
complaining, complaining and I
give him my book enough
attention. And then I go to MI
VO and the same thing every
podcasters are bitching and
moaning about how they're not
getting enough credit and nobody
cares. It was horrible.
Adam Curry: It's so true. It's
this is that's why podcast
networks don't work. Because any
kind of just you cannot monetize
the network. Spotify spent a
billion dollars trying to prove
it. And they did. But they
proved that it doesn't work. Oh
my goodness. I am John. I'm so
happy with what we're doing. I
love my job. I love doing Yeah,
John C Dvorak: all we have to do
is complain to each other. We
don't even do that. We can do it
on the show. It's content.
Valuable. It's
Adam Curry: time for an update.
There we go. Everybody did
something special. Here she is.
Unknown: Hi, everyone. Dr. Mandy
Cohen from CDC. We are only two
weeks away from Thanksgiving.
And I want to remind you to take
steps right now to protect you
and your family from COVID. Flu
and RSV because I know many
folks are thinking well, I had
COVID. I've already been
vaccinated. But this new COVID
vaccine is to match the changes
in the virus. It's updated and
restore protection that does
decrease over time. It's similar
to the flu shot you get every
year. Can you imagine
Adam Curry: if Windows said it's
time to update your Windows to
Windows 12. It will reduce F
activity over time, but over
time your windows won't work as
well. Which by the way is the
truth.
John C Dvorak: model it after.
Yes.
Adam Curry: This is exactly what
an iPhone
John C Dvorak: is a good
example. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, your
battery life will go stuff will
get slow. That's when it's time
for updated. It's updated for
this world of yours today.
Unknown: The updated COVID-19
vaccine is recommended for
everyone six months and older
and it's free for everyone,
either through through your
insurance or through a CDC
vaccine program are available in
pharmacies and health centers
around the country. These
vaccines are safe safe, they've
been through extensive notice
Adam Curry: they've dropped the
effective part of the slogan why
bother? It's just
Unknown: scenes are safe. So
we've been through extensive
safety review through both CDC
and FDA independent committees,
academic groups and more family
have concerns please talk to
your doctor or nurse
practitioner provider. Let's all
make sure to have a happy and
healthy Thanksgiving. Now's the
time to get your shots to better
protect you from serious illness
from these viruses. Make your
plan to get your COVID and flu
shot today. Be well all right
Adam Curry: be well everybody
stay safe and well.
John C Dvorak: I have the
alternate approach to selling
vaccines. Well the loop The
lunatic Keith Olbermann
Adam Curry: oh god what it does
he have a home is he is there I
think okay, I've seen this clip
I think it's old I don't think
it's a recent clip but I believe
this to be years old
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
it's years old Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think it is let me
see
John C Dvorak: well I don't want
to play at the end of his years
old I thought it was fairly
recent because his hair is so
gray
Adam Curry: let me let me just
let me just check Olbermann
check because I'm when I watched
him like this unhinged
Olbermann. That's
John C Dvorak: That's all now
you're being redundant.
Adam Curry: Let's play it just
in case people it may be old,
but it's worth it. It
John C Dvorak: may be also an
oldie but a goodie. I've never
seen it before.
Unknown: I understand cobbling
booster shot mission
accomplished. And it is it is
time to stop coddling them. The
ones who won't get the damn shot
already.
Adam Curry: This is why I
thought it was old because
that's no longer the mean the
damn shot already that that's
that's that's I agree with you
has
John C Dvorak: an old sound to
it not in play. And
Unknown: our first step you and
I is symbols. The language we
use. We call these people
vaccine hesitant vaccine
skeptics anti Vax, we say
they're protesting mandates and
passports. They're making a
personal choice. They're waiting
for more information. They're
making a medical decision.
Bullshit. They're afraid.
They're afraid to get
vaccinated. Stop feeding their
egos about what they're doing,
stop legitimizing it. Vaccine
hesitant. They're afraid.
Vaccine skeptics. They're
afraid. Anti backs. They're
afraid. They're protesting
mandates and passports they are
afraid old. There may be a
personal trainer afraid alright.
Oh,
Adam Curry: I can't listen to
it. It's old. I'm I want to talk
about modern. This is not a
modern way to sell vaccines. No.
The, by the way. That was Dr.
Mandy. She is the Director of
CDC. She's the new director.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: She's also a
sorority sister and Kappa and
probably and she's and she's
going to be shopping this
afternoon.
Adam Curry: This is the way you
sell vaccines. Everybody knows
the way to get the market jacked
is to create scarcity,
Unknown: the turnout of the
nationwide rise in cases of the
respiratory illness RSV, a
children's hospital in Fort
Worth, Texas says it's in 500
patients a day as cases climb.
Adam Curry: Okay, I just wanted
to stop here because I believe
this to be a cleverly written
script. She did not say that
this hospital in Texas wherever
it was, is seeing 500 cases of
RSV a day. She just says they're
seeing 500 patients a day. And
then she goes into RSV I think
this is a commercial. And I
think they put as a data ad it's
well it's a native ad and they
put this in at the beginning
because this doesn't ring true.
Unknown: I want to turn now to
the nationwide rise in cases of
the respiratory illness RSV. At
Children's Hospital in Fort
Worth, Texas says it's in 500
patients a day
Adam Curry: away. I'm at the
Children's Hospital in Fort
Worth, Texas. Is that is that
our boy Hotep Oh, it might be
that might be our boy Hotep now
think about so they're seeing
500 patients a day. Well, of
course they see 500 budges
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just for
broken arms for all kinds of
turnout
Unknown: of the nationwide rise
in cases of the respiratory
illness RSV. A Children's
Hospital in Fort Worth, Texas
says it seems 500 patients a day
as cases climb best case size of
a new antibody shot designed to
protect infants from the virus
are not keeping up with demand.
CBS has Mark Strassman reports
and tonight's Healthwatch
parents and hard hit areas like
Georgia are scrambling to find
the life saving shots. Little
Lucas sir and
his mother was lucky.
Adam Curry: Why? Why didn't they
do the story about that
Children's Hospital in Fort
Worth? Now they have to go to
your
John C Dvorak: jumping to
Georgia. Yeah, can I windy? Like
I said until a couple of years
ago I've never heard of Rs in
fact not even that I think for
the last two years maybe? Yeah,
I've heard it never heard of
RSV. It's now a life saving shot
when did the shot never existed?
And nobody talked about people
dropping dead in the streets
from RSV RSV has bullcrap
Adam Curry: RSV has been around
for a long time you don't know
because you don't have little
children. Tina also says John's
full of crap. It's been around
for a long time but you're
correct that this hype about it
has never been around that I had
little
John C Dvorak: children in my
day and I never heard of RSV
parents and hard hit areas like
Georgia wait. Tina is obviously
been brainwashed somewhere along
the line. Hey in RSV was made
she was made it, it was good.
She got it was we've had many
parents told about it No. But
before her if you go predate
Tina, in terms of like women,
they've nobody heard about it.
Okay, she is RSV generation one.
Case zero. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, I'll take
that. But we have had parents
play with boots on the ground
reports that yes, it is a thing,
but it's not the thing that
they're making it out to be.
What can we accept that? It's
just a no. Okay. John
dvorak.org. Don't email me about
your RSVP
John C Dvorak: for snow. I'm
saying no to is not a thing. It
never was a thing. This is just
hype to sell vaccine. Well, yes.
Adam Curry: And they're doing it
now by saying there's not enough
vaccines. Where have we seen
that done before
Unknown: reports and tonight
conflict parents and hard hit
areas like Georgia are
scrambling to find the life
saving shots. Little Lucas
siRNAs mother was lucky to get
him an RSV shot while his
pediatrician still had it in
stock. A lot of like in the news
and babies get real sick. So I
was like, might as well just do
it. Demand for the antibody shot
has been unprecedented. So
popular. The CDC is now
recommending pediatricians like
Dr. Jennifer, it's so
Adam Curry: popular John. It's
so popular at $1,000 a pop which
insurance doesn't cover it's so
popular shoe
Unknown: give it only to their
most vulnerable patients,
infants younger than six months
and those with underlying
conditions that put them at
risk. We're hoping
it's going to really cut down
and hospitalizations as well as
complications like pneumonia or
even death. Why are they
particularly susceptible? Their
immune systems aren't developed
yet. So the second thing is that
their airways are a little bit
smaller.
RSV symptoms include a high
fever, worsening cough and
trouble breathing symptoms that
can lead to hospitalization, and
even death. Chris Comstock 20
month old daughter Adeline got
RSV. In September, she spent
nine days fighting for her life
in the hospital.
I remember my wife and I were
standing in the hospital room
crying going, what do you do? I
have zero control sitting in
that hospital room knowing I can
do nothing to help my child and
then watching her walk and run
and get back to health again.
You can't put a price tag on the
thankfulness that we have. Dr.
Xu
says with cases still rising in
Georgia, she's almost out of
shots. Mark Strassman, CBS News,
Atlanta.
John C Dvorak: Here I want to I
gotta read this to you. This
from the CDC. RSV surveillance
and research six to 10,000
deaths among adults 65 years and
older. So that's where the real
problem is. 300 To 300 deaths in
children younger than five.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I'm
agreeing with you. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well listen to
this. RSV, responsible for one
in 50 child deaths between
100,200 1000 babies die from the
virus every year. According to
CNN, Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation, RSV causes more than
100,000 deaths in children under
five each year. Now how does
that sound when the CDC says
it's like 100? They have
100,000? Yeah, what what's wrong
with this picture?
Adam Curry: No, it's not wrong.
You're You're correct. I'm just
saying you can't say it doesn't
exist or it's a hoax. But people
have been and their children go
to the especially prematurely
born children. We have a lot of
children with immune disorders
because of I don't know,
previous vaccines possibly is
all kinds of stuff going on. But
yes, it's it is a hoax. Okay,
I'll give you that. But now I'm
gonna give you the real hoax.
John C Dvorak: But I'm now I'm
just kind of curious why one
group, the CDC says it's like
100 to 300 total. And you have
Bill and Melinda Gates and CNN
saying is 100,000 to 300,000.
Why,
Adam Curry: seriously, you're
asking me Why do you think that
there's an investment somewhere
in an RSV vaccination company,
we know why this
John C Dvorak: can't be this
sort of corruption,
Adam Curry: test gambling going
on there. Okay. So I got to read
this article to you.
John C Dvorak: I'm appalled. By
the way by these days, grepping
numbers,
Adam Curry: you should be you
should be. So we have a big
issue with excess deaths amongst
newborns. And everyone's
baffled, take care. They can't
figure out what this could be.
And you'll look at story after
story after story. And they'll
come up with well, you know,
RSV, the flu, you know, what is
the obvious thing that they omit
from all of their guesswork?
COVID vaccinations? And what?
Yes, that is not in any of the
stories, not a single story will
list COVID vaccinations or any
vaccination as a possibility for
although the remember,
correlation is not causation. It
lines up perfectly. But
correlation is not causation. We
have children being born who are
weak, we have children being
born who prematurely who are
weak, we have a huge crisis
amongst women, who I mean, we
don't have to go. It was it was
funny when I, when I said, Hey,
there's all these studies
showing that women are getting,
you know, postmenopausal
bleeding, there's all kinds of
stuff that's happening post
COVID vaccination. And you know,
people say that's not true.
You're not reading it, right.
And now, of course, Oh, all
right. You are right, it's true.
So something has happened, there
has been an attack willingly or
not, on women's reproductive
system, God given women's
reproductive system. And so
amongst all of this guessing,
USA Today, link to a video,
which I think this is the clean,
I hope this is the cleaned up
version of Planned Parenthood.
And they actually understand why
this excess death is taking
place among
Unknown: among newborns, but
black women and babies in
Wisconsin already have higher
mortality rates than white
babies. Are we concerned about
those racial disparities and the
growth of those disparities as a
result of this decision?
Adam Curry: So firstly, comes
the this is not the cleaned up
version. I'm now just noticing.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Almost
second. Half the cleaned up
version, I think said that for
some reason. Yes. I have. Yes. I
think I have it here. Hold on.
Work. Yes. Sorry, because that
was bad. I think this is the
this is cleaned up. Yeah. Here
we go. The
Unknown: black women and babies
in Wisconsin already have higher
mortality rates than white
babies. Are we concerned about
those racial disparities and the
growth of those disparities as a
result of this decision?
Adam Curry: So here comes the
Tonya Atkinson, the current and
new CEO of Planned Parenthood,
she'll, she'll take this first.
Unknown: And I'm gonna open it
up to whoever feels comfortable
to call
Adam Curry: obviously, that
yeah, I'm comfortable. I'll
start
Unknown: and would encourage
anyone else to join we are we
are very concerned about that.
We see the inequities in the
health care system. And we
certainly see the inequities in
as the as the person who has the
question, and we certainly see
the inequities in maternal
health. And so so we understand
in our heads,
Adam Curry: well, they're all
desperately trying to make a
point and that's why they're
hemming and hawing and oming.
And moving
Unknown: does system have a
disproportionate impact on
people who are already
marginalized in our health care
system for already experiencing
inequities in our healthcare
system. And, and a very
unfortunately, you know, black
pregnancy bowl, experience some
of the starkest inequities here
in Wisconsin and incomparably
across the country. So we're
incredibly concerned about this.
Adam Curry: So she can't bring
herself to say it. But Kathy
King, who I believe is a doctor,
she speaks next
Unknown: I will just echo about
Wisconsin, like many states
chocolates, the country has at
least a three fold higher rate
of return on mortality, or black
women compared to non black
women. And Milwaukee has the
highest rate of infant mortality
in in, of any collocation in the
state. So it's already a huge
problem. And because there is
such a narrow exception to the
law, about for individuals who
already have health challenges
that would make their pregnancy
higher risks, fall. You know,
there are just going to be so
many barriers for them. On to
access abortion, if that's what
they choose to do, because they
feel that that is the best
option for themselves and the
family that they already have.
By them. You know, there is an
estimate with abortion, US lack
of abortion access. If roe is
overturned, that it nationwide,
we could see a 20% increase in
maternal mortality. These
Adam Curry: evil women are
saying that because Roe vs. Wade
was overturned, because less
babies will be killed in the
womb. That's why newborn babies
are dying at excessive rates.
That's their answer. The
Republicans did it. That
pathetic, that's literally what
they're saying. Here's the tag
on this. So
Unknown: the risk to people's
lives this this varietal and
list the lack of access will
inflict harm. It
Adam Curry: will inflict harm
with lack of access. It's
unbelievable. That's why the the
CEO she couldn't bring herself
to say it to say, well, this is
what we've now determined that
evil, Supreme Court evil
Republicans evil red states,
because you overturn the right
to access to or made it hard for
women to abort their babies
abort whatever to me, I don't
want to get to you. No, I don't,
not for me to determine. That's
why we have higher infant
mortality rate. But let's not
look at COVID vaccinations at
all at all at all, or what it's
done to the uterus, uterine SAC
and all this stuff. It's
amazing. This is just glossed
over. And that's what we're
getting. That's your answer. I'm
blown away by these people.
John C Dvorak: Not in a good
way. You're shocked. Gambling
going on. I'm
Adam Curry: telling you. I'm
shocked. Yes. Just a funny
story. No sooner was the
executive order written by Joe
Biden. Genocide Joe, then both
the Elon Musk and Sam Altman
release brand new Oh, big new
reason, new announcements, this
AI that's going to kill
everybody. We have new ones. Do
you see what's what outwood
Altman's doing with open AI is
good. We're gonna have an app
store. So you can build your own
ai ai that is going to these
guys got an executive order
written and we know what's in
it. But the way it was sold to
the public was we have we have
to have the government involved
with this. We got to put
guardrails around it because you
know if you just put this the
power of AI into anybody's hand,
not skilled, smartest people on
the earth like Elon and Sam, the
it could take over it could eat
us. So here's an app store for
your store. You can sell your
own AI app. Are you kidding me
now? That's that's unbelievably
shallow. And here's a fine
example of the idiots who are
using AI and trusting it. A
group of Australian academics
has had to unreservedly
apologize for including
factually incorrect allegations
about big consulting firms.
Professor Emeritus James
Guthrie, Professor in the
Department of Accounting and
corporate governance at
Macquarie Macquarie University,
admitted to having used Google's
Bard to research information for
submission to a parliamentary
inquiry into the conduct of the
Big Four consulting firms with
numerous false claims being
generated. The AI literally made
up fake cases about these
consulting firms and the way I
think about consulting firms
scamming the government and and
Google barred just created some
some magical cases that never
existed. Love it. And this guy
is a Google Scholar, which is
even funnier, whatever that
whatever that means. So, no, no,
this is not important. It's not
going to eat the world. It'll
it'll make some nice Drake
songs. No, it'll, it'll create
art that we don't choose.
John C Dvorak: But we've chosen
plenty of AI.
Adam Curry: You know what I
mean? We tend we tend to if we
can identify it, we tend to move
on. It's usually usually the
stuff that's not good as AI
generated. There are people who
know what to do. Yeah, you
John C Dvorak: pick the lash.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, you're
gonna, you're gonna, you're
gonna sit here and argue with
me.
John C Dvorak: I just don't want
us to be lying to her.
Adam Curry: I'm not lying. I'm
not lying. But normally, I would
say most of the bad stuff is AI
generated. A lot of it is,
John C Dvorak: I think I'm not
gonna disagree with that. But
I'm gonna just say that most of
the art is AI generated. Oh,
really? I think I think the
stuff that we're tending to pick
now is probably this hybrid art
this hybrid
Adam Curry: and would you say
that this is a power that is
going to eat the world
John C Dvorak: not going to eat
the world is going to eat the
lunch of a lot of artists that
are dependent on doing schlock
art. were unsure or they're
going to become the guys who who
can control the AI? No, it's I
think it's a positive thing in
every way. And I love the idea
is generating phony baloney
reports, I think that's great.
If people were gonna rely on
that destroyed in their faces,
phonies. Well,
Adam Curry: those who are not
going to be affected by it is
the actors.
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