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November 12th, 2023 • 3h 17m

1607: Lazinsky

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Unknown: Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
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Adam Curry: remember 1220 23 This your award winning
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combination media assassination episode 1707
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Unknown: This is no agenda.
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Adam Curry: Papi is in place and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country. Number six in the morning,
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everybody, I'm Adam curry from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where we all say Happy
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Veterans Day to the veterans. I'm Jhansi Dvorak. Greg
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Adam Curry: Hill indeed we do. There's a lot of veterans in our
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no agenda nation producing audience. Yes. A lot. And I want
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to thank every single one of them. Young men and women many
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scarred from crazy ass crap they've witnessed so
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John C Dvorak: yes, we will likely they report some of it
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in. Yes.
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Adam Curry: But having been just to Iraq for 10 days and 2003
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seeing the scarring, it's not pretty. Are you wearing your
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puppy?
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John C Dvorak: You know, those days are over in California, it
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seems even though it's the puppy state.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, the Chinese got all the puppies now. That's
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what's happening there. Man. Oh, man. Oh, man. There's some
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interesting things happening. I think we should start with the
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new bull crap of the week. Which I'm not quite sure why they
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released this on Saturday.
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John C Dvorak: There's new bull crap.
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Adam Curry: This is new bull crap of the week. Yes. Yes. This
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was an L
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John C Dvorak: by the way. I want to mention, Oh, speaking
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Adam Curry: of bull crap in advance. Yes.
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John C Dvorak: I'm going to do a three by three today. But more
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importantly, I'm beginning and we need a jingle for this. Oh,
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the good news of the week that you specifically requested. I
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requested
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Adam Curry: it. Yes, I did show it shall we start with the three
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by threes since we typically I mean,
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John C Dvorak: we can do the three by three because a three
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by three is is quite funny. There's
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Unknown: three by three. Experiment by Jesse.
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Comparing sto reefer ABCs
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Adam Curry: everybody assigned three JC D checks out three days
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from the end of the week, but I'm doing the intro. Jason.
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John C Dvorak: We're done. Jason.
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Adam Curry: I'm done. I'm done. All right, I'm done. Yes, three
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stories from the mainstream media from the same
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John C Dvorak: three stories presented three slightly
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different ways. And these are all about the war. So they're
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all designed to traumatize the audience. Yes. Using bringing in
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some professional sound effects guys to add different sound
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effects and I'm starting with the lesser the award. I'm going
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to give it away the award for the best presentation goes to
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CBS. We're going to start with the third place finisher.
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Adam Curry: Wait Wait do we start with CBS and we start with
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John C Dvorak: no we start with ABC which is the third place
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finisher and ABC presents they got the sound they got some
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crazy fun house slide sound effect at the beginning. A lot
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of explosions. Nice. The stories are the same. It's about
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Israelis bombing the hospitals. And they say there's there's
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Hamas there that everyone over there says no, there's none. And
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then Blinken always says stop the bombing. Here we go.
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Unknown: Tonight the explosions rental in Gaza is main
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hospitals. THE MIDST those fireballs buildings shut the
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cries from the wounded. By night the sky lit up by flares and
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missiles. By Date Israeli troops in close combat going building
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to building room to room closing their news on Northern Gaza news
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the hospital's main parking lots now housing tents filled with
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people. The hallways crammed with refugees gurneys bearing
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the wounded lining the quarters. Today in exclusion of Gaza, its
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main hospital of Chifa. This girl screaming why God why?
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Israel saying the explosion was caused by a failed Palestinian
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rocket launch. Military spokesman Peter Lerner says
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Hamas has turned the hospitals into their base of operations.
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They have positioned all of their capabilities in around and
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beneath hospitals. But
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there are 1000s of patients who are wounded, some of them very
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severely, who cannot be moved.
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They can be moved. There are ambulance services that are up
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and running. It's a matter of deciding to move them
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but one of our chief was top doctors telling me it can't be
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done. What would happen if you did have to evacuate all the
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people who still remain evacuate. It means you want me
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to kill at least 100 patients at home tonight with the
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Palestinian saying the death toll is over 11,000 The
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strongest criticism yet by the US of Israel's handling of the
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war against Hamas. Far too many Palestinians have been killed.
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Far too many have suffered. But Secretary of State Blinken
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acknowledges Israel has opens humanitarian corridors 1000s.
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Today fleeing south on this highway evacuation route
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designed by the Israeli military over 150,000, fleeing in just
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the past two days, Lindsey Israel has said that over the
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past 24 hours its forces have operated not just in the Gaza
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Strip, but also in the West Bank along the Red Sea in Syria and
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in Lebanon, fighting this
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Adam Curry: you know, I would say that what does Bruno say
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Bruno says this is a five I think they blew it they blew
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their effects wad right at the beginning and then just slapped
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it off. I
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John C Dvorak: agree on your percent but the thing that was
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the kicker was Blinken. Strongest words ever? preface it
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with the strongest words ever by the Secretary of State and they
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cut into blink and saying to me people killed
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Adam Curry: me people die. Oh, strong, so strong. strongest
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ever. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: that sucked. And that was ABC, you know, which
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comes out of Disney should have some shows.
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Adam Curry: going down the tubes. They gotta get some new
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people in there. It's
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John C Dvorak: not good. So let's go to the second place
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finisher who will take the place of the word winner if the other
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one goes down in flames. But NBC decides to let's add some better
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explosions. As if they're there during these explosions. And
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let's up the ante with the guy doing the reporting and bring in
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a British voice. Yes,
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Unknown: this was the sky of a Gaza tonight in Israel's war
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with Hamas. And overnight near the Indonesian Hospital in Gaza
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City of fiable. Five hours after the White House says Israel
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agreed to humanitarian pauses in the fighting, but no ceasefire
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close by above Al Shifa Hospital. A projectile then
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screams later, a second explosion at the outpatient
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clinic. My mother, my father, my brother she cries. Tonight
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Israel says radar evidence shows one strike on the Al Shifa
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Hospital was from a misfired rocket from a Palestinian
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terrorist organization. Israel says Hamas has operated a
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command center under El Sheikh
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Adam Curry: Mohammed he did he say the Palestinian or a
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Palestinian terrorist organization? That was
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interesting. Let's listen against radar evidence
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Unknown: shows one strike on the Al Shifa Hospital was from a
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misfired rocket from a Palestinian terrorist
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organization. What
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Adam Curry: does that even mean? I mean there is the Palestinian
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the Palestinian terrorists Well
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John C Dvorak: I think that refers to this other Islam I'll
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Machado whoever the third group is that crops up when it's
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convenient.
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Adam Curry: They mentioned and then why don't why just a bit
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like why so yeah, can
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John C Dvorak: make it a good point. They could bring it in
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and we've been told not to. I want
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Adam Curry: to go back to the Brit
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Unknown: Israel says Hamas has operated a command center under
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Al Shifa Hospital, using civilians as human shields.
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Hamas has turned hospitals into fortified positions. This is the
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challenge that we are facing. This is precisely why we're
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encouraging people to go south in a war zone with
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Adam Curry: extra points extra points for the for the nasally
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voices sound effect is the challenge that we are facing.
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This
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Unknown: is precisely why we're encouraging people to go south.
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You're in a war zone. Oh, yes. You
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were in a war zone.
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We spoke to a doctor at Al Shifa hospital tonight. Have you seen
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any Hamas fighters, Islamic Jihad, any group like that
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they're
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No, no, no, no, no, he
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wants people won't allow them. To us today with blunt criticism
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of the civilian death toll. Far too many Palestinians have
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been killed. And we want to do everything possible to prevent
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harm drawn today,
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pointing to these two humanitarian corridors. It's
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created under a continuing exodus of foul palace. Bring it
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back inside Gaza. Hamas still hasn't released more hostages.
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Israel says any ceasefire now after the murder of 1200
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Israelis would be a surrender to Hamas. There
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won't be a ceasefire without the release of Israeli hostages. All
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right here. Let's pick up right there. You have new reporting on
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the negotiations to free these hostages, including Americans.
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Tom an official with knowledge of the tools tells me they've
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stalled in the past over how many hostages will be released.
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And that is still a sticking point tonight Tom despite
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progress. It's
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Adam Curry: interesting that they are putting the Brits in
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Yeah, who else is in there speaking of Brits, you know
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who's eight reporting from from Gaza, just outside the Gaza
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border is Douglas Murray. He was he was did a whole half hour
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with Piers Morgan. And weird didn't know that he that he was
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a an on the on the scene reporter I thought he was a
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public intellectual.
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John C Dvorak: That's what I thought. Anyway, let's So the
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number one number let me let me set it up. Okay. First of all,
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they've decided to up the ante because this is about trying to
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traumatize the audience to get him kind of glued to the set.
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Yeah, of course, because when they're traumatized, they're
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more susceptible to advertising. It's how it works. Then your
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mind is open your property, your shell shock, your shell shock,
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and you can be propagandized during that moment. Yes. And so
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you want to traumatize so so CBS has decided or they have better
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people that are in the backgrounds. Yeah, in the
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background, they're doing a sociology. So they said, screw
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this. Screw the male voice altogether. We like the British
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voice. Let's bring in a female British voice
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Adam Curry: go and do they have a sound effects? Are they good
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on the
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John C Dvorak: voice? And then they said, here's the here's the
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kicker. Instead of just bombing, I think people are kind of
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immune to phony baloney bombing. Gunfire Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Bye. Bye. Bye, Bob. How about just a lot of screaming and make
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sure that we get a you have to listen for this one. Make sure
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you get a lot of screaming women and men and get a baby crying
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and put all that in there. That'll traumatize the audience
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and they do a beautiful job.
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Unknown: A massive strike at the Al Shifa hospital grounds gauzes
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largest medical facility. Israel insists Hamas is using hospitals
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to coordinate attacks and hide its commanders but sheltering
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adults shifa. 1000s of civilians. They're one place of
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refuge of bloodsoaked battlegrounds.
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Adam Curry: Extra points for the script,
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Unknown: reeling in disbelief. This man shouts they bombed the
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hospitals. Nearby, a young girl Breakstone trying hysterically.
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My mom, my father, my
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Adam Curry: brother. Oh, wow. So they're not even subtitling
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anymore. They're just giving you they're just translating it on
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the fly. When she's acting, she's acting it out. This is
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this is very good. At best it is.
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Unknown: Nearby, a young girl Breakstone trying hysterically.
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My mom, my father, my brother. Inside, doctors and nurses fight
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another wall.
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Adam Curry: Many guests are they operating by cell phone lights
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the battle to
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Unknown: keep the injured alive with virtually every critical
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medical supply running out. Today. At least five hospitals
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have been caught up in the fighting, including one for
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children. Here this video appears to show a pediatric
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hospital surrounded by Israeli military vehicles. worn down by
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wall hunger and exhaustion civilians flee Al Shifa to, only
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to run headlong into more danger. Even the evacuation
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corridor is not spared the spiraling civilian death toll so
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Secretary of State Antony Blinken issue one of his most
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direct condemnations to date, wow.
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Adam Curry: So they've changed it from strongest words ever to
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most direct condemnation to date far too many Palestinians have
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been killed. Far too many have suffered.
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Unknown: Israel has to do more to minimize harm. We just can't
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ferret any more try echoed by the Red Cross, which says Gaza's
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health system has reached the point of no return. Outro and
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questioned by the media, the Israeli military said we don't
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fire on hospitals, Nora, but if we see her mouth firing from
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them, we will do what we need to do,
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Adam Curry: man, so she is on location. And she's you know,
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presumably in either a hotel room or some kind of facility
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they have. And she's like, you know, I'm I really got to spice
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this up. Let me act out what the people are saying. Yeah, that's
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great. That's
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John C Dvorak: great. This is and this is probably, although
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we kind of scoff at it and laugh at it. And in fact, praise it
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for its professionalism, ingenuity. It's disgusting. Of
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course it is. It's horrible. totally disgusting, of course,
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and it's exact same report to get the hospitals under attack.
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You got the doctors in the hospital you got the screaming
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women. You've got the throat a blink and stupid comment. That
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is not one thing or another he just kind of bland and say the
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least I mean,
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Adam Curry: it's really it's his most. I mean his most what was
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the term they used? some harsh words to date. Really. Too many
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people have been killed you can say that about every war. How
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about the Hutus and the Tutsis
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John C Dvorak: never there this is your example of the media
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trying to traumatize the on his kids to get them to buy stuff.
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It's bad by far as I'm concerned. That's the only
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reason they're they're going to such an extreme here. This is
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not reporting now this is preamble they're not there.
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There's not people behind them running around with their hair
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on fire like it sounds.
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Adam Curry: This is Mind conditioning to prepare you for
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pharma advertising, which is probably most probably an
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antidepressant.
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John C Dvorak: So a lot of those
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Adam Curry: three, three he didn't once again stay Roman by
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JC de nom experiment anymore.
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Unknown: fairings don't read from ABC
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Adam Curry: it is your three by three I guess it's back. I
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understand the clip custodian helps you out though the clip
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collector helped you out with that. The clip collector
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collector Very good. Well, unfortunately, he
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John C Dvorak: does a good job of getting the he's good at
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understanding this the idea that
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Adam Curry: all of our clip dudes are they get Fortunately,
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I have to kind of go over your head and say that there was
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someone who said much harsher words than Antony Blinken.
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Unknown: Yo yo Oh,
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Adam Curry: much harsher words only not the word you would
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expect any appeared on State of the Union was dynamite. Or Shawn
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CNN here is the one and only lady G Lindy upgrades.
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Unknown: You've said there should be no limit to what
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Israel can do to take out Hamas. But is the administration right
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that Israel needs to do more to protect civilians in Gaza
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Adam Curry: jam on Lindy Hop don't disappoint us now. Well, I
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Unknown: think Israel is committed to following the
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conflict. One thing I want to say for sure, is Israel's not
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engaged in genocide. And then another thing we need to deal
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with is the whitewashing of the status of people who
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Adam Curry: watch that whitewashing.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, why does he want to say it for sure? One
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thing I want to say for sure, well, that's just like
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highlighting I mean, other words, he's got something here
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that he's been told to say. Yes,
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Adam Curry: and in the kicker, which is coming after this,
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you'll hear what he really wanted to say. I'm
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Unknown: sure there are plenty of people would love to be free
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from Hamas, but the most radicalized people on the planet
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live in the Gaza Strip. They've been taught since birth to kill
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and hate the Jews. How do you teach math in Gaza? Get 10 Jews
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and you kill six How many would be left?
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Adam Curry: Whoa he's doing bits he's
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John C Dvorak: doing dick.
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Adam Curry: I mean, does he really does he realize how this
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guy does realize how he sounds? Let me let me see let's hear
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that joke again.
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Unknown: To kill in hate the Jews. How do you teach math in
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Gaza? Get 10 Jews and you kill six? How many would be left?
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Adam Curry: Nice delivery. Well done. Lindsey. Well done that's
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Unknown: been in their school system after World War Two. Did
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Adam Curry: you hear that? Edit they just edited right there
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boom
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Unknown: and Jews and you kill six? How many would be left?
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That's been in their school system after World War Two. Did
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anybody ask these questions? You got to realize the United States
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dropped two atomic bombs on cities in Japan to end the war i
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Adam Curry: and that was great. But what a great thing we did
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there. I mean, I still love that picture of the young girl with
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her flesh burned off. Lindsay that was great. Who
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Unknown: did anybody ask us these questions? You got to
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realize the United States dropped two atomic bombs on
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cities in Japan to end the war. I think this is total war
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between Israel and Hamas. I want to protect innocent people as
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much as possible. But I want the world to realize that the
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radicalized population in Gaza has been going on for over a
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decade. This will not be easy when you've been taught to hate
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the Jews and kill them all and drive him into the sea. And
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here's what I think 80% of the people in Gaza support the idea
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from the river to the sea. That's this guy that has to
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change.
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Adam Curry: Thank you trolling for correcting me the burnt off
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flesh was Vietnam. Another fine fine action that was that was
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our Agent Orange. I'm sorry.
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John C Dvorak: No, not Agent Orange. That was a napalm
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herbicide is napalm but
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Adam Curry: was at Maple
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John C Dvorak: product at Dow Chemical. Yes. Which I think
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Adam Curry: is now round up. I'm not sure No. So but he was not
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done there. No, no, but after we've had a little bit of stick
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and a little bit of hey, you know, it's like we propped it we
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had we ended the war by dropping two nukes hand hand hand maybe.
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But let's bring back in our own military industrial complex who
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has a firm grip on his tiny teeny testicles introducing
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Unknown: a bipartisan sense of the Senate Resolution tomorrow
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about Iran. Senator Graham, what will it say?
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Adam Curry: Oh, that resolution this is important resolutions is
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where we all agree on saying the same thing and we vote on it,
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then we say it. Well, it basically
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Unknown: says if the war expands if Hezbollah opens up a second
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front in the north against Israel in a substantial way to
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overwhelm Iron Dome, then we should hit the Islamic Republic
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of Iran. In fact, I would say bomb a bomb and then bomb again.
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There is no Hamas without the Ayatollah support there's no
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Hezbollah without without the Ayatollah support the great
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Satan in the regions, not Israel, the or the United States
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is Iran. Whoa,
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Adam Curry: did he did he just did he just flopped there? Where
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do you say without
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Unknown: the Ayatollah support the great Satan in the regions
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and not Israel? The or the United States? Is Iran.
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Adam Curry: Truth wants to come out. Thanks, Lindsey. The Great
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Satan speaks what a war monger that man is that we need to hit
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around but said it's hit Iran. Let's just hit Iran.
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John C Dvorak: He's just a cut does he is he is the epitome of
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a chicken hog.
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Adam Curry: Chicken hawk. How about chicken crap? That guy's
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no good. is no good? He's no, no, no, good. All right. Let's
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step away from this for a moment.
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John C Dvorak: Because we're going to step too far away,
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because I do have a couple of brackets
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Adam Curry: I despise starting with this. Now we're like in
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five that will come due to it. No, it's not too late. No,
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John C Dvorak: we already started with it. We can't You
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can't start to show over.
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Adam Curry: Well, then I shall play another clip. The let me
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see what is the one we want to do here? Yes, I think we should
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go to Europe. And play Macron Lopez, el presidente a loop
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president on the phones. And he was interviewed by the baba say,
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I think was BBC. And he wanted to be very careful. You know, I
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was like, I gotta kind of but you know, I was like, I gotta be
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careful what I say here, because, you know, we don't want
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a Muslim uprising in France. And but yet again, we don't want the
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Jews to be angry. So we got no, I'm just gonna dance around it.
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Unknown: You think Israel is respecting those rules? The
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international rules that you're referring to?
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Adam Curry: Yes. The international rules. The rules.
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Rules proportionality? Yes. Yes. Look, look, look, I've had my
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trade
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John C Dvorak: with a French accent. Look, look.
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Unknown: Look, look in the very first.
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Adam Curry: Look, come over here. Look, these,
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Unknown: it's clear that the motion to completion created a
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situation where everybody was just close to his role and
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backing as and sharing the pain. And we do share the pain. And we
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do share the willingness to get rid of tourism. We we know what
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tourism means in France. But I think there is no justification
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precisely to attack civilians.
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What I would like to just to clarify with you. Are you saying
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that Israel is guilty of breaking international
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humanitarian law? leading the
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Adam Curry: witness? Potential? No, I'm here. No, no, no. Luke,
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Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke,
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Unknown: international humanitarian law, potential
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here? Look, I think it's not the proper way to approach a
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question.
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Adam Curry: It's not a proper way to approach a question. I
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agree, John, Luke,
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Unknown: we do recognize their right to protect themselves. And
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one month after this to always attack I think it would be not
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the right way to deal with a partner and friend just to see
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you will be condemned and your whole Cote de facto, today's
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opinions are bombed. The fact effectors babies ladies is old
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people,
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Adam Curry: babies, ladies and old people look at
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Unknown: bombed and killed bombed service. No reason for
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that. And marriage is messy. So we do urge Israel to stop. I'm
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not here to I'm not a judge. I'm head of state. I just remind
24:14
everybody international law. I call for a ceasefire. And I will
24:18
urge him for a ceasefire for him anytime ceasefire.
24:21
Adam Curry: Everybody wants this proportionality, which would
24:24
only prolong the the glee of the military industrial complex.
24:30
Question, please do look.
24:34
John C Dvorak: How come nobody at all that I can recall, as
24:40
asked for a ceasefire in Ukraine? Luke.
24:45
Adam Curry: This is not a proper way to approach a question. Of
24:50
course, we haven't called for that but we'll get to that in a
24:52
moment. Because you got clips I got what I have one more clip
24:55
because you know who's back on the scene? Who has been on the
25:00
Justice for Palestine for blind
25:02
John C Dvorak: thought it was a look at me Look, I mean, Lindsey
25:06
Adam Curry: Look, no, Abby Martin is back.
25:09
John C Dvorak: Abby Martin is back.
25:11
Unknown: The term human shield is nothing more than a racist
25:15
veil that makes the dehumanizing assertion. Oh, it's no church is
25:19
back
25:19
John C Dvorak: and more communist than ever.
25:22
Unknown: Indeed, that's children. The more rational
25:26
explanation is that there's no I have
25:28
Adam Curry: to say she does have an iconic voice. You recognize
25:31
because I was on the way back from church, I was listening to
25:34
the clips in the car, and I didn't even have to see the
25:38
clips. I didn't have to see the titles of the clips. It
25:41
John C Dvorak: does have a very distinctive voice very
25:43
distinctive, encourages
25:44
Unknown: the death of its children. The more rational
25:47
explanation is that there's nowhere to flee, and one of us
25:50
most densely populated places on earth, and that every single
25:54
civilian location is considered fair game to be bombed. However,
25:58
because of this,
26:00
John C Dvorak: I want to stop this right here is one of the
26:03
most densest places on earth. She says. I should point out
26:07
since I did I actually did some research Don't tell me you
26:10
actually did some work. I sometimes do
26:13
Adam Curry: I mean, wasn't a slam on you. It was more slam on
26:15
the M five in
26:18
John C Dvorak: San Francisco is four times the density. Let's
26:21
bomb it. New York City is I think eight times as dense
26:27
Manhattan is eight times as dense as as Gaza San Francisco's
26:31
four times as dense as Gaza
26:33
Adam Curry: and what size How about the size? Is it the same
26:35
size?
26:37
John C Dvorak: No, it we were talking about per kilometer,
26:40
kilometer BB I'm sorry, per hectare per acre per mile per
26:46
square mile. Let's go with that. I know you get to the right the
26:50
right measurement here shortly I like I like square mile I like
26:54
history exact per square mile. Manhattan and San Francisco are
27:00
respectively eight times and four times more dense than Gaza
27:04
per square mile. Yeah, sorry.
27:05
Adam Curry: You know what the most densely populated places
27:09
the troll the troll room.
27:13
John C Dvorak: You know, we should do I don't even want to
27:15
get into Macau or some of these other places that are extremely
27:19
dense. But just for easy comparison, San Francisco and
27:24
Adam Curry: New York. All right, well, this is for the troll
27:26
room. nonstick
27:28
John C Dvorak: Nope. And you don't hear it anymore because
27:30
it's a nonsense claim has been debunked. However,
27:33
Unknown: because of this propaganda tactic. The constant
27:36
and indiscriminate bloodshed in Gaza isn't seen as criminal or
27:40
deliberate. It's not seen as criminal or deliberate by the
27:43
jority of people. But this is a learn tactic. Attorney human
27:47
shield has been the Empires favorite excuse to just the
27:51
Empire,
27:52
Adam Curry: the Empire empire. What else Darth
27:57
John C Dvorak: Vader involved in this,
27:59
Unknown: the term human shield has been the Empire's favorite
28:01
excuse to justify mass slaughter and its wars of conquest in
28:06
Libya, the year prior to the US NATO bombing campaign. The human
28:10
shield talking point was used ad nauseam in the lead up to the
28:14
Iraq War. The Bush administration included the
28:16
human shield talking point as a main tenant of his campaign
28:21
John C Dvorak: second do you remember this I don't remember I
28:26
don't talk about in the Lippia talking point that we both
28:30
picked up on was the was the Viagra yes talking point
28:34
Adam Curry: and the cap that was it what's the name of that other
28:36
drug the the cheap cocaine
28:41
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, that's that seems to be cropping up
28:44
again. And I don't remember the humans shield talking point
28:47
under any of these events except this particular one. Worship
28:54
getting her writers
28:56
Adam Curry: heard. I've heard she writes it herself. I've
28:58
heard human shields before. That Bush might have said it. No, it
29:03
was just well beyond was just check. What you will find it see
29:07
if we have any human shields. Oh, hold on a second. I have a
29:11
human shield clip. I have a human shield clip. 31 seconds.
29:14
This is from 2022. The
29:17
Unknown: other major story overseas the days long siege at
29:20
a prison where 1000s of suspected ISIS members are being
29:23
held ISIS fighters attacking the facility in Syria last Thursday
29:27
in an attempt to free the ISIS detainees. A coalition said the
29:31
attack has been contained after the US called in airstrikes to
29:34
help an American backed militia regain control. But some
29:37
militants are still holed up in the section of the prison and
29:40
they're reportedly using hundreds of detain children as
29:44
human shields. It's not clear how many prisoners were able to
29:47
escape.
29:49
John C Dvorak: ISIS bastards. Yes, it
29:50
Adam Curry: was also during the Biden administration just
29:53
pointing it
29:53
Unknown: out talking point was used ad nauseam in the lead up
29:56
to the Iraq War. The Bush administration included the
29:59
humans sheild talking point as a main tenant of his campaign, I
30:03
John C Dvorak: don't remember it as a main tenant for show she's
30:06
a liar lies the woman is I hate to say it. As much as you know
30:10
she's amusing. She's a liar. Yes, that's what she got fired
30:14
from our tea. She
30:15
Adam Curry: couldn't even keep a job there. Let's be honest about
30:18
it.
30:19
Unknown: Journalist robbing Martin uncovered entire CIA
30:22
reports dedicated to Saddam's devaluation of life through the
30:27
use of human shields. Bush even preemptively tried to justify
30:31
the enormous civilian death toll he knew was to come with the
30:34
invasion by declaring the former Iraqi dictator plans to quote
30:38
shield his military and blamed coalition forces for civilian
30:42
casualties that he has caused. I guess there were a million human
30:48
shields in Iraq
30:50
Adam Curry: Mushies Okay, all right. Well, that's a stretch a
30:54
little stretch there, no stretch. Stretch, why don't you
30:58
just come out and say it in fact, I
30:59
Unknown: would say bom bom, bom again. At least judging
31:03
Adam Curry: means honest. She's unhinged, but she's honest. All
31:07
right, what you got
31:08
John C Dvorak: on the last show, you discuss some of the the kind
31:12
of the front, the front organizations that are involved
31:16
in the protests and use that money. And in that report, I do
31:20
not remember you mentioning my all time favorite, which is the
31:23
world's Workers Party. Socialist, some other socialist
31:27
services Socialist Workers Party
31:29
Adam Curry: and the No, I don't remember
31:34
John C Dvorak: that. Well, the point is, is that I find I've
31:37
got I got the clips could isolate them. They're the guys
31:40
who used to do remember think T dot h dot i n k. They did all
31:45
these they've been doing protests as the should the
31:48
entire length of our show 60s What they do is what they do
31:51
what they do, and they're a bunch of communists. What's your
31:53
question? Yes, because
31:55
Adam Curry: I've seen some signs of some of these. Some of the
31:58
protesters which by the way are the same LGBTQ BLM millennials?
32:04
The new slogan is stopped genocide Joe
32:10
John C Dvorak: Wow, I like it. By the way, anybody out there if
32:13
you're going past I would like to collect two or three of these
32:17
signs.
32:18
Adam Curry: Stop genocide Joe.
32:20
John C Dvorak: I would love to have a copy of stop genocide Joe
32:24
if anybody can get get and help pay for the shipping and just
32:27
get a hold
32:28
Adam Curry: and you have to be wearing a cafe Cafe so he
32:31
pronounced the cafe
32:32
John C Dvorak: I don't know what to pronounce pronounce it. The
32:35
cafe where wherever one of those pushy hats the
32:40
Adam Curry: I just have one of those. I mean they must be
32:43
flipping out in Washington DC about this genocide Joe? And by
32:48
the way, this is like a thing I mean, I can just walk up to you
32:52
in a bar and say hey bro don't genocide me bro. Now this is the
32:56
thing people just saying is genocide a man you don't need
32:59
genocide me this is
33:01
John C Dvorak: probably the I think the genocide Joe thing was
33:03
slipped in by the by the intelligence agencies that want
33:06
to get rid of Joe Biden and this is part of their scheme right
33:12
now genocide Joe is an OP it's
33:14
Adam Curry: and it's sticking it sticking it's a good one
33:17
John C Dvorak: it's a good one Yeah.
33:18
Adam Curry: Well done. It's not well
33:20
John C Dvorak: yeah, you have to say it when it happens Hey, go
33:23
with protesters are Marxist part one
33:25
Unknown: Oh, pro Palestinian rallies popping up on the
33:28
streets and on college campuses popping up as across the US
33:32
who's behind them. NTDs cine to cure spoke with an expert on
33:36
Islamic terrorism as Ron Omani to take a deep dive into the
33:41
investigative journalist and author Asra Nomani tells NTD
33:45
that behind the pro Palestinian protests in America is a
33:48
multimillion dollar orchestrated campaign. Muslim organizations
33:53
that have now embedded themselves in the West, and they
33:57
are the ones unleashing these protesters against Israel and
34:02
Jews onto the streets and it's at the campuses. What we have is
34:06
a multimillion dollar orchestrated campaign. And I'm
34:11
speaking to you from the trenches of that. Those efforts
34:15
in the street.
34:17
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. NTD on the beat, all right.
34:20
John C Dvorak: She's done that'd be nice guy cut it. They're not
34:23
for any particular reason. But the fact that she is on legible
34:29
illegible Well, I've seen on I'm legible because illegible I
34:33
think refers to writings unintelligible that's the word I
34:36
was looking for. Thank you, sir. Yes. Anything. unintelligible
34:41
unintelligible to to the nth degree and so I this was I just
34:45
ran this one through Adobe to see if it could be fixed and it
34:47
was kinda she's still hard to hear but is that oh, you ran it
34:51
through Adobe Good, good. And I that but I ran through Adobe
34:54
with the front end. So in other words, I ran this entire clip
34:57
through Adobe including the clear part it to begin And
35:00
because I've not done that before, just see if like it can
35:03
jack it up it can work at work I wanted to see what it did to the
35:07
part that's already good. And it does a pretty good job of
35:10
ignoring I
35:11
Adam Curry: have Adobe enhanced clip myself today. So yeah,
35:15
John C Dvorak: let's so this is Adobe enhance and it came out
35:17
pretty good. Alright, so here we go into with the with the gist
35:20
of it.
35:21
Unknown: No money shows NTD posters she picked up following
35:24
a pro Palestinian rally last Saturday. And you get the signs
35:28
from the river to the sea. Palestine will be brief. But
35:31
what was the chant that they said in Arabic? Philistine Al
35:35
Arabiya, which leads Palestine is Arab, from the river to the
35:40
seat so they have code and who organized this one? The Islamist
35:45
group us Palestinian community network, one of the many
35:49
Islamist groups that believe in political Islam. And who had
35:53
they aligned with that this is what's so critical. You have to
35:56
be the fine print, as you know, as a journalist, then with
36:00
Palestine and the occupation, right, they use these the word
36:03
who is it that sponsored that the Party for Socialism and
36:08
Liberation, Socialism and Liberation? That's the far not
36:12
and who are they? multimillion dollar global networks that are
36:18
trying to use the socialist our left agenda into our nation?
36:23
They are alone, it's bad. Look at this one. We're going to
36:26
break the fourth wall get workers World Heart farm out on
36:32
units organization.
36:36
Adam Curry: You know, when I hear this, and I'm thinking,
36:38
Boy, AI is a long way from taking over the world. It did it
36:43
did a good job for us for sure. Yeah. The workers world party
36:47
man. They've been and they've got websites. We've been reading
36:50
their material. You're right. Oh, yeah. Getting programs. It's
36:53
the beginning of
36:54
John C Dvorak: as they're the ones who use the there's an old
36:58
term from the web two, or whatever it was a long tail. Oh,
37:03
the
37:05
Adam Curry: the long tail. We are on tail tail.
37:07
John C Dvorak: They use it to an extreme. They have so many phony
37:11
baloney with they have probably 1000 websites that all look
37:15
strange. And they do a good enough job of making sure they
37:17
don't look exactly the same. They're pretty varied. And
37:21
they're but they're all their their websites. And they all do
37:24
one thing after another. And they
37:25
Adam Curry: probably they probably fund Abby Martin's work
37:28
as well. I'm sure I wouldn't
37:32
John C Dvorak: be a bit, you know, if it was if if they did,
37:35
it wouldn't surprise me.
37:36
Adam Curry: So as an example of this, and as you know, we need
37:43
what we've seen, I was just thinking about this. The trauma
37:48
we all had through COVID, which was and we all had, we know you
37:52
didn't but everyone else has has some residual trauma from family
37:57
members who shunned you from friends who are no longer
38:00
friends from being called, you know, a leper a leech a horrible
38:05
person to not being able to breathe. And then we had in the
38:09
middle of that George Floyd and we're like, No justice, no
38:12
peace. That chance, which really started Occupy Wall Street if
38:16
you remember that, you know, it's like Mic check, mic, check.
38:21
Mic check, mic check. And all of that crap. But it has a Mic
38:26
check. But it's very effective. And the chanting has become an
38:33
easy simple way to grab a younger age demographic.
38:39
Particularly jingles it thank you. Someone sent me. I don't
38:45
have a clip of it. Because it doesn't really work without the
38:47
visuals. But someone sent me sent me a campaign video for
38:51
Biden, Harris. I said, How Why? Why is it that this is just so
38:56
compelling? And I said, Dude, it's a whole rap jingle. That's
39:00
why it's always the jingle. Always the jingle. And even
39:05
professional marketers don't understand. Well, that's kind of
39:08
hokey. We had a jingle you know, that's me.
39:13
John C Dvorak: You know, that's funny. You say that? Because I
39:15
think there's some there's some arrogant goes out. There's let
39:21
me go. Tell this is a story. I can tell kind of about these
39:26
marketing guys. I went to when I was taking, I took a lot of
39:31
courses in direct marketing that first I took the seminars in New
39:34
York, but I've taken them over time. And I took some major ones
39:40
in the San Francisco Bay are there one or two day seminars?
39:44
And there was a message they all of these guys always had. Don't
39:48
try to be funny. Don't be funny. Don't do anything funny. Don't
39:52
do any humor, whatever you do. And I on the show we had on Tech
39:57
TV called Big thinkers. I got to it interviewed Jay ChIAT.
40:02
Adam Curry: From Shai day, very famous, very bad guy, very, very
40:06
John C Dvorak: famous. So we had drinks with him afterwards. And
40:11
I asked him about this specifically. And he says it
40:15
stems from an old book, he says is bullshit. For one thing.
40:19
Didn't you know how to be funny? You?
40:23
Adam Curry: Didn't take didn't shy a day. They certainly did
40:25
Apple. Yeah, they did apples. They also did Coca Cola, I
40:29
think.
40:31
John C Dvorak: I don't know if they did. I think so. Did they
40:32
did they did the best Apple stuff. Yeah. And he said that,
40:39
if you know how to be funny, this is a great way to do it.
40:41
And Stan Freeburg, for example, had a whole agency doing nothing
40:47
but humorous ads, you have to be to be careful not to funny, so
40:50
nobody remembers the product. He says just you just have to know
40:53
how to do it. He says it all stems from one book that one of
40:57
the old timers wrote some years ago where he put that in there
41:00
as an edict and everybody just mows it. And this is the kind of
41:04
thing these guys generally speaking, don't understand
41:08
anything. Now they're the marketing guys now, so they
41:13
wouldn't get it. Yeah. How White would jingles I don't know is,
41:15
you know, it's I don't know, how, why is that we're just make
41:18
sense. This
41:19
Adam Curry: year, it doesn't make sense at all. Whereas we
41:23
understand how well it works. And example if you see that is
41:29
not an official government dzingel But it shouldn't be.
41:32
John C Dvorak: It should have been years ago. Anyway. It's
41:35
more
41:35
Adam Curry: tribal than that. It's more simplistic, you know,
41:37
as the Hey, hey, ho ho. Mele. Donald Trump has got to go. But
41:42
Georgetown, they took up the the river to the sea.
42:15
I mean, this is good stuff. And that's I mean, that's as good as
42:18
any Hitler chant. It even sounds like one is good. I mean, that
42:24
is correct. If that's effective, and all the kids have the
42:27
kyphosis they're all clad in that Kifah clad, if I'm saying
42:31
it right, even,
42:32
John C Dvorak: I don't know what it is. I don't know what you're
42:34
talking about.
42:35
Adam Curry: That's the scarfs. The
42:36
John C Dvorak: Palestinian, though that Palestinian Scarfie
42:39
I have one of those. So of course you do it in Israel. And
42:46
Adam Curry: CNN this morning, we're back to Danna bash. She
42:48
must be listening to the show because she's taking a page from
42:52
the John C. Dvorak script.
42:54
Unknown: The fact that anti semitism and by the way, a lot
42:57
of experts say we should just call it and do hate.
42:59
Adam Curry: There it is. Let's just call it what it is. Just
43:04
call it a Jew hate
43:07
Unknown: anti semitism. And by the way, a lot of experts say we
43:09
should just call it and do hate on anti semitism because
43:13
Adam Curry: a lot of experts say we just call it Jew hate. Oh my
43:16
god. Okay. What is going on here? Because, you know, it
43:20
sounds like though is it only the world Workers Party? No. Is
43:24
it only the CIA in the military industrial complex now, that's
43:30
not really people and human entities. It's the evil rulers
43:33
and authorities of the unseen world. dark powers, pure evil in
43:38
the universe. That's what this is. And by forcing people to
43:43
pick sides, you're just playing into it. And that only benefits
43:47
another dark force in the human world, which is the political
43:51
parties who wants you to do anything? Anything but look
43:56
around at your own your own environment, your own city?
44:02
Which I have to say by the way, San Francisco is cleaned up
44:05
nicely cleaned up I mean, I even got a report yes on the ground
44:09
reports from people about how nicely it's done. Oh, the
44:12
John C Dvorak: city is beautiful. This city this is
44:13
what the city should be like all the time. But why can't it be?
44:16
They don't want it this way. They want it to be poop lot
44:20
pooped, it would poop all over. Yes.
44:22
Adam Curry: Well, that's not going to happen. But anyway, I
44:25
think I have to say, this is we're not going to Iran is not
44:31
going to take the bait. And Lindsey Graham, he's when has he
44:35
been right on anything? So you know, he's
44:40
John C Dvorak: he's just he is a stooge. It has to do with this.
44:44
It was his campaign financing is due to the military industrial
44:48
complex, and I don't know specifically who I don't look at
44:52
his numbers. I don't care who cares. He can get voted out
44:55
anyway. But he takes a lot of money from these guys and he He
45:00
says what they want him to say. Or what he thinks they want him
45:04
to say.
45:06
Adam Curry: Exactly. For sure when he says to be sure, for
45:10
sure. When I want to say for sure. That's when he's parroting
45:15
the talking points. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this is really divide
45:25
and conquer. Divide people divide again it this is no
45:30
different from Mas no mas Vax Novak's red, blue, Trump, no
45:36
trump, it's all the same thing. And many of our own no agenda
45:41
nation get my nation people are falling for it.
45:44
John C Dvorak: Oh, boy, how can you not you're in a data we
45:46
played that three by three? Yeah, you no matter where you
45:49
go, I mean, I'm sure Fox has very similar reports. We don't
45:52
have that it's not a four by four. And it's fine. If you
45:56
unless you live in a hole and you don't take in any media,
46:01
you're gonna fall for it. Because that's what they want
46:03
you to do. So you buy stuff?
46:06
Adam Curry: Yes. Buy stuff. All right now, can I get to the new
46:09
bullcrap of the day?
46:12
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's about time. Yes, the new bull crap of
46:15
Adam Curry: the day, we have an Emmy, I should have you how many
46:20
times in your life as a journalist, a member of the
46:26
press? Have you worked on a story and agreed to release your
46:31
own reporting together at the same time on the same day? So
46:37
there's a big international story. You're an American
46:40
publication, there's a European publication, and you're working
46:44
on it together. So you can break the story on the same day? How
46:48
many times have we actually seen this happen? Have you ever
46:52
witnessed and
46:53
John C Dvorak: been involved in that level of reporting, but I
46:55
can say this, I think it happens. The only thing is is
46:59
done by agreement. here's the here's here's how it would
47:01
happen. You there's exclusive sources that you have and this
47:06
exclusive sources the other publication has, and you agree
47:11
to exchange sources and background information if
47:15
neither one of you throws it out there first. It's not an unusual
47:20
situation.
47:22
Adam Curry: So but it could be a massive op.
47:27
John C Dvorak: It could be but this happens. This happens used
47:29
to happen in tech a lot where everybody was they had a Do you
47:33
see is like the embargo until 2pm, blah, blah, blah.
47:39
Adam Curry: But that's more like there's an embargo was more that
47:41
there's a press release. That's like the new iPhone. Day.
47:45
John C Dvorak: It could be you could be it could be a live
47:47
event, and then you still behind bars.
47:49
Adam Curry: But not breaking breaking news, something? I
47:52
think
47:53
John C Dvorak: I think there was a deal. Yeah, it does happen. I
47:55
don't think it's not shocking to me as it seems to be to you.
47:59
Adam Curry: What kind of story sources would the Washington
48:03
Post and their Spiegel have in common?
48:07
John C Dvorak: They wouldn't have any many in common. And
48:10
that's why this deal would have been done in the first place so
48:12
they can swap sources.
48:14
Adam Curry: Well, here it is. Because now we're done. There's
48:17
no more question. The riddle has been solved.
48:21
Unknown: The man in this picture is Colonel Roman chevensky. It
48:25
shows him in a classroom in Kyiv, where he is being held on
48:29
charges of abusing his power during a plot to Lua a Russian
48:33
pilot to defect to Ukraine. Now here's the subject of another
48:38
investigation. According to an exclusive from the Washington
48:42
Post and Spiegel he was central to the controversial bombing of
48:46
the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines. No sources have
48:50
painted a picture of him managing logistics for a six
48:54
person team that rented a sailboat under false identities
48:58
and dove deep into the Baltic Sea to plant explosive charges
49:02
on the gas pipelines. They say he didn't act alone and that his
49:07
orders ultimately came from senior military officials. The
49:11
act of sabotage was condemned by the West after it left only one
49:15
of four gas links in the network intact. Ahead of a looming
49:19
European winter. Nord Stream one and two pipelines run from
49:23
Russia to Germany and provide energy to millions of people in
49:27
Europe. Critically, the Nord Stream bypasses Ukraine.
49:31
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has previously denied
49:35
Ukrainian involvement in the explosion. Walker. Bush the
49:40
Ukrainians definitely didn't do it definitely didn't like and
49:43
that is the most important thing. Yeah. Someone said there
49:47
was some signs or even a certain Ukrainian flag. It's funny to be
49:51
honest. What we're interested in is arms deliveries and or
49:57
victory.
49:58
Adam Curry: So I think that This was put together. Before
50:02
John C Dvorak: you start, I'm going to backup off and what I
50:05
said, because I didn't know this story. The story is obviously
50:08
what you're going to say see is an OP. It's an office bowl crap.
50:12
By
50:12
Adam Curry: the way, did she say Lozinski? Or Zelinsky?
50:16
John C Dvorak: I thought she said Zelinsky. Back in
50:18
Unknown: Europe. Critically, the Nord Stream button Ukrainian
50:21
president Volodymyr Zelensky has no she says
50:27
Adam Curry: What an idiot. I think that this signals a
50:32
change. And the change here is let's start slowly ending this
50:37
war by getting the EU
50:39
John C Dvorak: pissed. You've been saying this for a year. Now
50:42
we're getting there by
50:44
Adam Curry: by getting the European Union angry that this
50:48
was Ukraine. This is Ukraine. Ukraine blew up the pipeline.
50:54
Volodymyr Lozinski, clearly does not have the military under his
51:00
grasp. Things have to change. There's no other reason for
51:05
this. This is this is a done story.
51:11
John C Dvorak: Why all of us? I'm 100%. Yeah, I'm 100% with
51:17
you on this. This is a dumb story. There's no it is a
51:21
signaling story. And you have two groups of journalistic
51:27
institutions that are controlled by intelligence agencies do just
51:31
do to institute villages. You got two groups do stooges Der
51:36
Spiegel and Washington Post controlled by outside influences
51:41
and they're doing this to get to send a message a worldwide
51:44
message.
51:46
Adam Curry: There's some other things going on not really
51:49
widely discussed, of course, Ukraine run by President
51:53
Vladimir Allah Zelensky. I can't. I can't stop saying
52:01
they're not part of the European Union and Poland is sick and
52:04
tired of it Ukrainian
52:05
Unknown: truck drivers and gridlock on the Polish border.
52:09
Traditionally close allies competition in the transport
52:12
sector has caused tensions between the two countries,
52:15
leading Polish truckers to block crossings for a fourth
52:17
consecutive day. One driver on route to Estonia labeled Poland
52:22
a transit country and called for the roads to be reopened.
52:27
Know that people go who are not going to Poland. Going further.
52:31
afield. We're going further. We don't need Poland.
52:36
Others forwarded the blame towards politicians. Limulus
52:40
Chappelle said obviously it's not the drivers and businessmen
52:42
who are doing anything wrong, not me. Yes, the political
52:45
ambitions of the polls.
52:48
The EU weight payments for Ukrainian transport companies
52:51
entering the block after Russia's invasion last year. But
52:55
the Polish protesters want those permits reinstated. Claiming the
52:59
competition is unfair. Getting
53:01
myself across on those tiny chips. Those companies are much
53:04
cheaper because they don't have permits. And they pay their
53:07
employees much less than we pay our employees. Meanwhile,
53:11
Ukrainian truckers left at a standstill.
53:15
You see there is a ditch in a field and no toilets nothing as
53:19
round of conditions can you expect?
53:22
cubes is around 20,000 trucks are blocked on both sides of the
53:26
border with estimated wait times ranging up to six days. Wow.
53:31
Adam Curry: So that's a problem there? Well, this
53:33
John C Dvorak: is it this? Shouldn't we need to discuss
53:36
this a little bit. Because at the beginning the polls were all
53:40
gung ho on this war because they hate the Russians. But I think
53:44
at some level they hate the Ukrainians as much. The
53:47
Ukrainians are troublemakers are basically Russians, if for all
53:51
practical purposes, in terms of their their culture, Poland
53:56
Adam Curry: live next to this has been next to this country
53:59
forever. They know exactly what's for sale there. They've
54:03
know this is not some mystery to the Polish, like right
54:07
corruption, drugs, cookers, money laundering, all of that
54:12
Ukraine. I love it. They know this they know what's going on.
54:17
John C Dvorak: And now the Ukrainians are in their face and
54:20
it's like we don't want him here and we're now we're getting sick
54:23
of this stupid war various issue for us and let's do something
54:27
about it and nobody wants to do anything about it. Now
54:29
Adam Curry: now we have these dichotomies these these these
54:33
weird, and this is what this is what's messing up politics right
54:38
now. I mean, I was like, Well, you know, we're supporting
54:41
Israel, but our base that we have mind control with chants
54:45
are calling our leader genocide Joe, you know, this, like, save
54:50
the Gaza babies but abortion and I was like, my brain is freaking
54:55
out. And now Amnesty International comes in. Amnesty
54:58
Unknown: International has accused the West The governments
55:00
that support Israel's invasion of Gaza have double standards
55:04
when compared with its condemnation of Russia's
55:06
invasion of Ukraine. And the group Secretary General told the
55:10
Paris Peace Forum that the West ants posed a threat to human
55:14
rights. It
55:15
is reflected right now in the double standard that we are
55:20
witnessing the Western bloc demanding that we all rush to
55:26
the Defense of Ukraine as we should, because Ukraine has been
55:31
aggressed by Russia, and they are unbelievable suffering in
55:37
Ukraine. And at the same times, telling us not to act on the
55:44
multipole bombing for the absolute suffering of the people
55:48
of Giza. The double standard of those governments, you know, to
55:55
me are the biggest threat to human rights right now. Your
55:59
work is
56:00
a forum is an annual event that involves governments,
56:03
nongovernmental organizations and others who discuss global
56:06
crises. I'm
56:08
Adam Curry: not really sure what side they're on now, but they
56:10
make a point. We didn't get any propaganda about dead babies in
56:15
Ukraine.
56:17
John C Dvorak: Did we know at worst, the ceasefire, as I
56:20
mentioned earlier? Did you see nobody's calling for a
56:26
ceasefire?
56:27
Adam Curry: No. Did you see the there was a story that kind of
56:30
came and went for a specific reason. The story that that flew
56:35
by, I think was maybe Friday was Hamas was threatening to shoot
56:40
fentanyl tipped rockets into Israel.
56:46
John C Dvorak: So that story came and went it came and went
56:48
Unknown: because of this story. The letter in Georgia is among
56:52
more than a dozen sent to election offices in at least
56:55
five states. One letter says End elections now. Another warns of
57:01
white powder and reference communists both featured symbols
57:05
of left wing groups law enforcement sources say the
57:08
letters sent across the country appear to be threats to scare
57:12
rather than seriously harm.
57:15
They're intentionally trying to break us break us enough to stop
57:18
elections and that's not going to happen. It quite frankly that
57:21
the opposite. It lit a fire underneath us
57:23
investigators are working to track down the sender using the
57:27
message is symbols and paper itself along with examining the
57:31
stamps for fingerprints to pinpoint the location where the
57:35
envelopes are dropped in the mail. Now
57:37
Adam Curry: this is CBS my friend Jeff gays.
57:41
John C Dvorak: I have a thought he was on NBC
57:51
Adam Curry: ABC, CBS, this is from CBS. I don't know why. I
57:58
thought Jeff Briggs was always CBS. Thank you. You're confusing
58:02
me now.
58:03
John C Dvorak: I don't hear enough from him. So it's, you
58:08
know, it's easy to forget where you are, you know, CBS
58:13
Adam Curry: died. I look according to the wiki pedia.
58:15
He's a CBS News correspondent but thank you for CBS. So what
58:20
does he say here? Or what what did the official say hello I'm
58:23
gonna go back
58:24
Unknown: here stop elections. And that's not going to happen.
58:26
It quite frankly that the opposite. It lit a fire
58:29
underneath us
58:30
investigators are working to track down the sender using the
58:33
message is symbols and paper itself.
58:37
Adam Curry: Trying to track down the messages using the symbols
58:41
the paper itself and not a single one of the M five M
58:46
networks and I have I could play more stories. In fact, I
58:49
probably will play CNN after this. If you freeze frame and
58:54
look at the letter, the letter that was sent it says stop
59:01
giving power to the right. And it has three symbols on the
59:09
paper, a trans flag, an Antifa symbol and a satanic pentagram
59:17
who would that be coming from but none of them mention it?
59:23
This is this is your chicken crap reporting right here. This
59:26
is really really bad. You this showing the letters.
59:31
John C Dvorak: You can see it Yeah, they are and they're
59:32
showing the three symbols, but
59:34
Adam Curry: not a single one mentioned it. That's that's
59:38
really egregious. If it's really wrong with
59:42
Unknown: examining the stamps for fingerprints to pinpoint the
59:45
location.
59:47
John C Dvorak: Would you specifically think of sending it
59:50
Adam Curry: someone who's trans on Tifa and a Satanist. Hello,
59:55
how hard is this?
59:56
Unknown: Or dropped in the mail right now the focus of appears
1:00:00
to be on the Pacific Northwest. Heartland,
1:00:04
Adam Curry: the scene of less activity,
1:00:08
Unknown: someone is trying to make people fearful as they
1:00:12
opened ballots as they respond to routine correspondence. And
1:00:16
this this is the exact definition of domestic
1:00:18
terrorism,
1:00:19
Adam Curry: which kind of makes you want to think oh, that must
1:00:22
be a white supremacist.
1:00:24
Unknown: All right. Like these are having an impact on them
1:00:27
volunteers working at the polls, nor according to recent survey
1:00:31
by the Brennan Center, one in five election workers is left
1:00:35
their job in part because they're concerned about their
1:00:38
safety. It's a
1:00:39
Adam Curry: threat to democracy, to threats. You know, what,
1:00:42
honestly, if you want a profile of the person, I'd say the the
1:00:45
Nashville shooter, there's your profile right there. I
1:00:48
John C Dvorak: think so too. Now. It's interesting, she say
1:00:51
threat to democracy, because that is that's code. Yeah. So
1:00:55
Adam Curry: Trump for Trump. Yes.
1:00:57
John C Dvorak: So she's saying that. Okay, so what you're
1:01:00
saying I didn't think about this, and he sense that you are
1:01:04
thinking about it, is that this person is, or the group is
1:01:08
easily identifiable by those three symbols. That's those
1:01:11
three symbols represent them, and you probably do, especially
1:01:14
that one Antifa sem symbol, which is not a common one, you
1:01:18
don't see it that much. But which is the arrows pointing
1:01:21
down? And you have so you have you have the modern gave that
1:01:26
whatever, the progressive gay flag, you have the Antifa. And
1:01:30
you have the Satanist. Yeah. And no, and you're right, not one
1:01:34
report has mentioned any of that. They just kind of point as
1:01:38
the three symbols. They never say what they mean. And they
1:01:41
never equate it to the to the letter in any way. And then they
1:01:45
follow up with this with the antiTrump comment, as if he's
1:01:50
got anything to do with those three groups,
1:01:53
Adam Curry: whereas they never called the Nashville shooter. A
1:01:57
domestic terrorist. No, but it's, this is exactly the
1:02:03
profile of person I would be looking for. In fact, if I was
1:02:07
at the news desk, I'd say write this in there. This could be
1:02:11
someone like the Nashville shooter. And of course, we can't
1:02:16
even acknowledge I acknowledge did speak
1:02:18
John C Dvorak: to a story. I had to bring this story. I love your
1:02:21
stories. I
1:02:21
Adam Curry: mean, I cut this for the deconstruction my father,
1:02:24
John C Dvorak: this is a story. I've got three clips, two clips.
1:02:27
Oh, wow. All right. Actually, maybe there's only one clip.
1:02:33
This is disappointing to see what you just said is, I think
1:02:37
confirmed by this story, which you never heard of. It's another
1:02:41
trans kid. And this trans kid is a fat dude who who's not, I
1:02:47
think in junior high, and he's a fat dude, who would have
1:02:51
obviously in my looking at him, would it become probably a
1:02:55
premier programmer of the fat style?
1:02:59
Adam Curry: Black black nail polish fingernail polish.
1:03:02
John C Dvorak: Well, I never saw his fingers. Okay, but they be
1:03:06
turned into a girl supposedly. And he's still looks like a fat
1:03:10
kid. And he's, and this is one of those stories that the
1:03:14
national media could have picked up on if you're on the on the
1:03:17
national desk you could have picked up on any of the local
1:03:19
papers could be picked up by but no, it's an isolated story. And
1:03:23
I think these stories are all over the country. I was turned
1:03:26
on to by somebody sent me some clips from Colorado Springs
1:03:29
channel 11. And this is the channel 11 story on the trans
1:03:33
kid found guilty a person
1:03:35
Unknown: who authorities say threatened several mass
1:03:37
shootings in Colorado Springs has taken a plea deal. Lily
1:03:41
Whitworth is from Elbert County. We told you earlier this year
1:03:44
that Whitworth was arrested after her sister told deputies
1:03:47
she was threatening to shoot people at a school in district
1:03:50
20 And also at a future 11. A supporter Erin Vento is
1:03:53
following this case today. Aaron Whitworth is pleading guilty to
1:03:56
an entirely new charge Adam Lily who was initially identified by
1:04:00
her birth name William and these arrest papers pleaded guilty to
1:04:03
second degree assault. That's a class four felony deputies with
1:04:07
Elbert County Sheriff's Office. They this all came from not only
1:04:10
a threat to shoot people at those locations you mentioned
1:04:12
but also a manifesto detailing her plans. The rest papers they
1:04:17
were specifically named timberview middle school saying
1:04:20
she went there now Tony told us she never spent more than a few
1:04:23
months at their schools saying what worth only spent a full
1:04:26
semester at one of their middle schools. They were across with
1:04:29
the 18th judicial districts as with this plea with faces a
1:04:32
maximum of 16 years in prison. I am just grateful that nothing
1:04:38
happened. No one was injured. We got a conviction and law
1:04:41
enforcement in this particular case was able to be proactive
1:04:45
and stop a potential threat before something happened
1:04:49
earlier this year at D 20. Credit with SR with saving many
1:04:53
lives by reporting those threats.
1:04:55
Adam Curry: Well good I'm Colorado Springs channel 11 for
1:04:57
reporting this because I can all already predict what's going to
1:05:01
happen. These news organizations, and as you know,
1:05:07
journalists are being killed left and right in, in Gaza?
1:05:11
Well, I would say there's a chance because of the reporting
1:05:19
that's being done from some of the some of the networks and
1:05:23
that kind of wishy washy in a way, you know, you they should
1:05:26
watch out, they could have one of these crazy trans kids show
1:05:30
up and start shooting up a station or dropping fentanyl at
1:05:35
a at a television station or network. Have there's this is
1:05:39
this is really dangerous, not for not the people you would
1:05:43
think it's dangerous for.
1:05:46
John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? Interesting point, I think
1:05:48
you're right. I
1:05:49
Adam Curry: mean, these days, if you are anti LGBTQ and, and
1:05:53
that's just a conglomerate, but I would say this guy from Tyler,
1:05:58
Texas, who happens to be a bishop. Like he happens to be
1:06:03
gay happens to be a bishop, I would say that his main issue
1:06:07
was probably trans in the church, or the sparkle services
1:06:14
on if you've heard any of Have you seen those videos of the
1:06:17
sparkle services?
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. So no, like a horse.
1:06:26
Adam Curry: So, Pope Francis, kick this guy out of the church.
1:06:30
Unknown: Well, it is a fairly rare move. I mean, for a bishop
1:06:34
to be effectively fired in this way. I mean, normally, as you
1:06:38
mentioned, perhaps there's some issues and investigation is
1:06:42
carried out and the bishop usually is asked to resign for
1:06:46
the good of the Diocese, and for the church at large. But Joseph
1:06:50
Strickland, the 65 year old Bishop of Tyler in Texas, in the
1:06:54
United States said he made it clear that he was not going to
1:06:58
resign that he had been given the mandate by the former Pope
1:07:02
Benedict, the 16th. And his flock needed him. And so as a
1:07:06
result, a one line statement effectively came out of the
1:07:09
Vatican, saying that Francis had relieved him from his position.
1:07:14
Now he had been a leading voice, a traditionalist, a
1:07:18
conservative, a vocal critic of Pope Francis, he had said that
1:07:23
the Pope had in the past that had undermined the Catholic
1:07:27
faith, and that yet threatened its basic truths. And in fact,
1:07:32
he had criticized this recent month long meeting that happened
1:07:35
at the Vatican, the Synod, in which bishops from all around
1:07:38
the world were gathered together, as well as some lay
1:07:42
people to discuss about some hot button topics such as the role
1:07:46
of women in the church, as well as the role of LGBTQ Catholics,
1:07:50
and he had question this very meeting. So an investigation had
1:07:56
been held earlier this year into his governance of his diocese,
1:08:00
lay people as well as priests had been interviewed. And so,
1:08:04
the recommendation had been made to Francis that he be removed.
1:08:09
So clearly, right now, this fairly rare move has been taken,
1:08:12
and he has been removed from his position.
1:08:17
Adam Curry: relieved of duty by like that, from this bishop is
1:08:21
relieved of duty. I tell you, so this is a dangerous situation.
1:08:27
And and that's not going to be dangerous for the people you
1:08:31
think it is, you know, the left under the these three symbols
1:08:37
trans because it's not just it wasn't just an LGBTQ flag, John
1:08:41
was the trail is a big is to translate trans flag and Tifa
1:08:45
known problems throughout the world, not just in America. And
1:08:50
the satanists, not always the good guys, as far as I'm
1:08:54
concerned. The journalists need to be very careful, very
1:08:58
careful, because this is unhinge behavior. And fentanyl. They're
1:09:06
going to rue the day that they that they didn't really focus on
1:09:12
the fentanyl story other than Oh, the Sacklers Oh, the
1:09:15
Sacklers did it the Sacklers did it. You will ruin it. I gotta
1:09:19
tell you, I'm thinking like, I just want a little bit of
1:09:21
personal Narcan. Now.
1:09:25
John C Dvorak: You can get it you probably get it free if you
1:09:28
play your cards right.
1:09:30
Adam Curry: Let's see if we have any information on it. Let's see
1:09:32
if we can get an Arcand ad out of CNN. Do
1:09:35
Unknown: you have more insight into these letters who they were
1:09:37
addressed to and what they said
1:09:39
for Georgia? Not yet. This
1:09:41
Adam Curry: is Brad. He's the governor of Georgia. What's his
1:09:46
name? Brad.
1:09:48
John C Dvorak: That guy, that guy. What we
1:09:49
Unknown: haven't been informed by by the postal officials is
1:09:53
that there's a letter in transit. So it's a three to five
1:09:55
day transit through their system. And so obviously they'll
1:09:59
try it interest fact that when it comes to the Atlanta
1:10:01
processing facility, but it hasn't arrived to Georgia yet,
1:10:06
so we don't know that will be intercepted. And that's why we
1:10:09
prepared staff at the Fulton County election office.
1:10:11
Adam Curry: So that reference burger and apparently there's a
1:10:14
there's a letter in transit, if
1:10:16
Unknown: it does actually make it through our system, and it
1:10:19
arrives, this is what you do and how you'd handle it.
1:10:22
How do you know that it's in trick? Like, what's the
1:10:24
information that lets you know it's in transit? How do
1:10:26
officials know that
1:10:28
postal official has some capabilities? I guess that they
1:10:32
don't talk about much?
1:10:34
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
1:10:36
John C Dvorak: This is low slope barcode along the bottom of your
1:10:39
envelope, you see that long code? Yeah, very long. Yeah.
1:10:42
That's what they're talking about
1:10:43
Unknown: tracking. And based on what they saw in other
1:10:46
locations, they were identify that there was another letter
1:10:49
that was obviously another letter postmark for GA.
1:10:51
And you haven't heard of any suspects? Or who may have sent
1:10:54
these at this point, right?
1:10:57
Not at this time? No, no, I understand from just readings
1:11:00
that they do have identified the potential suspect, but they're
1:11:05
gonna keep that very close to, you know, close to their chest.
1:11:08
Adam Curry: Mm hmm. So I think this is this is a bigger problem
1:11:15
than this. The fact that we had no because now we also have was
1:11:20
a story from Bloomberg here. Let me
1:11:22
John C Dvorak: we have to mention just in passing, the
1:11:26
number of times that DEA officers and others who are
1:11:30
picking up or grabbing a big shipment of fentanyl, some guy
1:11:34
just touches a pack package. Yeah, can and drops. From you
1:11:41
know, just from just casual contact. In fact, there's
1:11:44
another store in Colorado Springs I can play before you
1:11:47
play your clip here, which is this, which incorporates both
1:11:51
fentanyl in the story, but also some sort of I think some sort
1:11:55
of reverse insurance fraud within insurance companies. You
1:11:59
as a is maybe defrauding its customers in some really screwy
1:12:05
way play this reverse insurance fraud one clip from from channel
1:12:09
11.
1:12:10
Unknown: Now first story that you're only going to see here on
1:12:12
11 News. A family is speaking out after they say their son's
1:12:17
Jeep was stolen from their garage after a break in. They
1:12:21
tell us that the Jeep was recovered, but was deemed a
1:12:25
total loss rather totaled by insurance after we tested
1:12:29
positive for fentanyl that will love a news reporter Jared Dean
1:12:33
is live with us right now. Now Jared, this family says that
1:12:36
this Jeep was their son's dream car. Yeah, Aaron, the roads tell
1:12:40
me that their son's Jeep was labeled as a biohazard by
1:12:44
insurance. But they later found it on an auction website, taking
1:12:48
bids. Now they tell me that they've been on and off the
1:12:51
phone with insurance to figure out why that jeep was on that
1:12:54
website. wasn't
1:12:56
aware of how big this kind of problem is, especially with
1:13:00
everything you hear that I offend all is a it's a big deal.
1:13:03
So when it tested positive, the insurance company immediately
1:13:08
considered it a total loss.
1:13:10
In September, the Rhodes family tells me their house was broken
1:13:13
into and their son's Jeep was stolen. It was recovered in
1:13:17
Pueblo. But when their insurance company did their inspection, it
1:13:21
tested positive for fentanyl. They later found the Jeep on the
1:13:25
auction site seal part with the label, biohazard
1:13:28
and even had fentanyl written across the windshield. That's
1:13:31
when the two contacted their insurance asking why the Jeep
1:13:34
was available for auction. Despite the Jeep being labeled
1:13:37
as totaled.
1:13:38
I started monitoring their site and come to find out they put it
1:13:41
up for auction. So which that that's what really disturbed
1:13:46
us USAA sent them a message back saying in part quote, for any
1:13:51
vehicles being deemed a total loss for the presence of drugs
1:13:54
such as fentanyl, these vehicles are not supposed to be listed as
1:13:58
available for auction. The jeep was then taken off the site
1:14:01
after road said he had several calls with insurance road says
1:14:06
that he is still has questions about how his son's Jeep ended
1:14:09
up on the site in the first place.
1:14:11
But my big thing is how many times this happened before and
1:14:13
how many times it's going to continue to happen if it's not
1:14:17
addressed.
1:14:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, well here we are. Here we are. Fentanyl it's
1:14:23
just for rednecks. Now now it's a bigger problem than you think.
1:14:30
John C Dvorak: It was a guy that ever doing so I don't have a
1:14:32
clip but there was an interesting interview with
1:14:34
somebody about this saying oh the fentanyl it's in there it's
1:14:37
moved to heroin out just keep forming heroin. So they he was
1:14:41
doing some research he's one of these guys on the street he says
1:14:45
these these these guys looking for a high heroin high when they
1:14:50
heard of fentanyl and the effect it is more powerful. They all
1:14:53
flocked to it. They wanted fentanyl yes yes one heroin
1:14:57
anymore. It's no good groovy
1:15:00
Adam Curry: Now we know this. We know this and now the fentanyl
1:15:03
users want tranq because it's even better. We heard that from
1:15:09
our own drug dealer insufferable was that's what drug users do.
1:15:13
You When You're addicted, it's like oh man, I can get even I
1:15:17
mean, I know it's risky, but it can be even a bigger high. Our
1:15:20
own drug former drug addicts and current drug addicts have told
1:15:23
us this. Meanwhile, Indivior PLC just got $111 million contract
1:15:31
for Narcan whoop B as the US readies for airborne
1:15:36
bioterrorism with fentanyl and fentanyl like drugs. According
1:15:41
to Bloomberg. And reminder, opioid gas was used in the 2002
1:15:46
Russian hostage situation. So the Russians could probably be
1:15:49
doing it. Those are Russian those Russians? Yeah, this is
1:15:55
this is the this is an actual problem that I that that gives
1:16:01
me it's not
1:16:02
John C Dvorak: being addressed is what you're trying to say.
1:16:04
Yeah. And it hasn't been addressed as Ben ignored,
1:16:07
correct. It's been ignored by the government. Because they're
1:16:11
Adam Curry: probably a part of the problem. Well, they are part
1:16:14
of the problem, but who knows how deep it goes. Who knows?
1:16:19
Now, you sent out a newsletter, which is always always fun,
1:16:24
always fun to read the newsletter. And in the
1:16:29
newsletter you wrote about this. This article in The Philadelphia
1:16:35
Inquirer, I believe, yes, Philadelphia, you want to give
1:16:38
us the background because I have some clips to discuss this. Yes,
1:16:42
this
1:16:42
John C Dvorak: article is a being extolled. I'd like to keep
1:16:46
up with the with everybody. In other words, they don't just
1:16:51
listen to no agenda socialists, other people that but they all
1:16:54
tend to be left wing, if not Marxist, but they lean. They
1:16:58
lean left and they're all a lot of them are journalists. And in
1:17:01
fact, there's even once a professor of journalism, and
1:17:04
they everybody went nuts when this article came out. And this
1:17:08
article we should have a link in the show notes I'm sure you'll
1:17:12
put it in it's in there of course. This article is in the
1:17:16
Philadelphia Inquirer by this guy. I think his name is bunch
1:17:19
and or let me
1:17:21
Adam Curry: read the headline. With the world on fire. A
1:17:26
cowardly timid news media is a threat to us democracy, subhead,
1:17:33
news organizations are using cowardly words to describe the
1:17:37
killing abroad and fascism at home downplaying the danger to
1:17:41
democracy. And there's a picture of Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson
1:17:46
the threat to the democracy himself. Mike Johnson, the new
1:17:53
speaker of the house.
1:17:54
John C Dvorak: No, I you you've made it. I heard a boop sound
1:17:57
like you're just disconnected. Nope. Mike Johnson, where whose
1:18:01
view is a fine, man. Very fine. But the whole piece goes on a
1:18:07
very fine man on both sides. As the piece goes on, and on and on
1:18:11
about mostly Republicans and Trump and Trump being the real
1:18:15
he's a genuine threat. By the way, our country's over, as we
1:18:20
know it. And all these guys are all in on this threat to
1:18:23
democracy threat and Trump threat to democracy. All you
1:18:26
would have, he would have already wiped us out. There
1:18:28
would be no more democracy if he had his way the first time
1:18:31
around. And Joy Bay hearts actually literally said that.
1:18:34
Yes. And so so everybody went gaga googoo over this article,
1:18:38
and what the article actually says is that reporters should
1:18:42
not be reporting they should be advocating they should be
1:18:46
activists. Yes. And everybody thinks this is a great idea for
1:18:50
today's news media to be more activist than they already are.
1:18:55
Who are we kidding?
1:18:57
Adam Curry: So this, as you said, it stems from a New York
1:19:01
Times article, which is just it was just so weak, because
1:19:04
everything all news, all newspapers, all news outlets,
1:19:08
everything in the United States, for sure, takes their cues from
1:19:12
what the New York Times writes. And then, and the activist news
1:19:16
media are very disappointed that the New York Times is not doing
1:19:20
what the you know, where's the database, bring back the
1:19:23
database of his lies. So here's CBS and this and this comes from
1:19:28
a couple of different places that Trump was on Univision.
1:19:31
Univision is now a problem. Univision? Yeah, I
1:19:34
John C Dvorak: saw by the way, they
1:19:36
Adam Curry: threw him softball, softball. It was
1:19:39
John C Dvorak: it was it was boring. But it turns out that
1:19:43
throwing Trump's off balls makes them boring needs to be get
1:19:48
asked hard questions so he can go off for
1:19:50
Adam Curry: this is, in fact, this is the funny part about it.
1:19:55
If only the media would give him softballs, he doesn't have good
1:20:00
sound bites for that. The minute you are like you give him the
1:20:03
throw Trump softballs. He goes, you know, okay, I'm just all
1:20:06
comfortable talking about this. He doesn't go nuts. No, it's
1:20:10
boring is boring. It's commercially not viable to do
1:20:14
this with Trump anyway, here's CBS This Morning. This is part
1:20:17
of what Trump was saying that that is this got everyone's, as
1:20:22
you would say tit and a ringer. Former
1:20:23
Unknown: President Donald Trump addressed the Spanish speaking
1:20:26
voters yesterday in an interview with the Univision is aired last
1:20:29
night it was with Univision correspondent and CBS News
1:20:32
contributor Enrique Acevedo, who asked the former president if
1:20:36
you plan to use the FBI and the Justice Department to target his
1:20:39
opponents, if he got a second
1:20:41
John C Dvorak: term, these could certainly happen in reverse. It
1:20:46
could certainly happen everywhere. What they've done is
1:20:48
they've released the genie out of the box, you understand that
1:20:52
they've done something that nobody thought would happen.
1:20:55
They've done indictments in order to win an election, they
1:20:58
call it weaponization. And the people aren't going to stand for
1:21:02
it. But yeah, they have done something that allows the next
1:21:05
party I mean, if somebody if I happen to be president, and I
1:21:08
see somebody who's doing well and beating me very badly, I
1:21:11
say, go down and indict them. Mostly what that would be, you
1:21:16
know, they would be out of business. They'd be out they'd
1:21:19
be out of the election, with
1:21:20
Unknown: Trump is charged with dozens of federal crimes. And he
1:21:23
is wrongdoing dozens of times, in fact, for every case, every
1:21:27
case.
1:21:28
Adam Curry: So if you really want to know what's going on
1:21:30
with the media, you need to go to NPR to the show on the media,
1:21:37
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR
1:21:42
Adam Curry: or PBS and on the media, which was a particularly
1:21:47
annoying episode as they completely rewrote the history
1:21:51
of podcasting. But that's an aside, it's not all
1:21:54
John C Dvorak: that. Well, by the way, their shows are all
1:21:57
annoying. And the fact that they rewrite the history of
1:22:00
podcasting, it does not surprise me in the least they
1:22:03
Adam Curry: had me on on the media to talk about it when this
1:22:06
when it was when podcasting was first breaking. I mean, they
1:22:09
could have they could go yes.
1:22:12
John C Dvorak: Or they could have pulled up an old clip.
1:22:15
Adam Curry: No, because they had to cry about all their canceled
1:22:19
programming that that's what the the piece was really about how
1:22:22
sad it was for their colleagues. It was a swansong
1:22:25
John C Dvorak: to me because they threw out instead of
1:22:27
putting together one or two really cherry podcasts that
1:22:31
would really get some attention and probably get some some legs.
1:22:35
They rolled out 30 or 40 Crappy podcast, which is people
1:22:39
yakking? Well, no,
1:22:43
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, you're wrong. They threw out 30 or 40
1:22:45
podcasts, which we're, you know, we're executive producers and
1:22:49
we're making $150,000 a year on the shows each show had its own
1:22:55
executive producer and they paid the talent top dollar, and it
1:22:59
was scripted and that you know, they were treating it like radio
1:23:01
plays of the past. And what they're pissed about is well, it
1:23:06
seems like just people who just get on you know, personalities
1:23:10
who talk about stuff that they're getting all the money
1:23:15
like Joe Rogan maybes Joe Rogan and Dan bond Gino. Anyway,
1:23:21
John C Dvorak: so Codan Leoncino bond
1:23:24
Adam Curry: decode bond, Gino, Dan froomkin, you know, do damn
1:23:27
from canoes? Dan froomkin?
1:23:31
John C Dvorak: No,
1:23:31
Adam Curry: he's a douchebag. And he works for he he? What is
1:23:37
the thing that he's on? Hold on a second. He's, I see if I did
1:23:42
it, write it down. He's a part of some, you know, like media
1:23:46
watchdogs site. Anyway, so damn, from Ken. He's a prime example
1:23:53
of being all upset about the media not not getting into
1:24:01
Trump's face and not telling people what he's really saying
1:24:05
that isn't the same
1:24:06
John C Dvorak: group. This is what these guys do. And I would
1:24:10
refer back to an old show he did probably seven years ago or so
1:24:16
when that news group showed up to secret news group about
1:24:19
journos, which
1:24:21
Adam Curry: was in the email list
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: or whatever it Yeah, it was a list. And so
1:24:27
somebody outed him and they had to close it down. But they've
1:24:31
rolled out a bunch of their emails, and they're all
1:24:34
conspiring against Trump. And all these writers that should
1:24:38
be, you know, objective, but they're not. And so this same
1:24:42
group of people that I talked about a minute ago that were all
1:24:45
giddy over this article and saying, yeah, yeah, this guy's
1:24:49
one of them.
1:24:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's a part of press watch. Press watch.
1:24:56
Independent website previously known as White House watch,
1:24:59
which really was Probably Trump watch. Anyway, so here he is on
1:25:02
the media's multi clips but entertaining unpressed.
1:25:05
Unknown: Watch your site you wrote about some recent
1:25:07
reporting from the New York Times in the Washington Post,
1:25:10
looking into Trump's intention to select political appointees,
1:25:15
who will unquestioningly follow his orders and turn the
1:25:19
prosecutorial power of the Justice Department against his
1:25:23
political opponents. This was the central reporting of what he
1:25:27
plans to do on day one if he's reelected, but at the same time,
1:25:31
you felt that something was lacking from this coverage.
1:25:35
There's two articles were fantastic in some ways in that
1:25:38
they really looked at how would trump govern how would trump be
1:25:41
the president, which is something that is too often
1:25:43
overlooked in the data and doubt incremental horsepox
1:25:47
John C Dvorak: toes what but he hadn't read through his nose.
1:25:50
He's talking like this well, but what is wrong with us though, is
1:25:53
that he can't breathe through. The deviated septum is
1:25:55
Unknown: too often overlooked in the data in doubt, incremental
1:25:58
horsemen's coverage, but what you're seeing is that elite
1:26:01
journalists in our top institutions lack the vocabulary
1:26:05
and the mechanics that are really necessary to accurately
1:26:08
cover Trump right now that they can't bring themselves to say
1:26:12
that he is delusional. They can't bring themselves to say
1:26:15
that he's a would be dictator. These articles, if you read
1:26:17
them, discerning reader, describe Trump's plans. Pretty
1:26:21
alarmingly, they're getting rid of any obstacle to the abuse of
1:26:25
power and gearing up to throw political opponents in prison,
1:26:29
preparing to unleash the military on peaceful domestic
1:26:32
protests. Okay.
1:26:36
Adam Curry: So now he's going to deconstruct the actual reporting
1:26:39
by the New York Times, and I learned a word
1:26:42
Unknown: in journalism, we often look for what's called that
1:26:44
graph, which sort of like the summary paragraph, the
1:26:47
Adam Curry: nut graph.
1:26:49
John C Dvorak: Is this something that you've learned history for?
1:26:50
I've talked about the net graph like years ago, but
1:26:54
Adam Curry: you've no I? Well, I just think it's a nice term. I
1:26:57
think it's a show title, not graph. It just said, credit just
1:27:01
sounds. It sounds dirty, not graph. In journalism, we have a
1:27:05
thing called the nut graph. Let's listen to the nut.
1:27:08
John C Dvorak: I want to say something but the nutbrown
1:27:10
please do. Not graph which is supposed to be one paragraph
1:27:15
somewhere in the article Hi, usually high up meaning toward
1:27:19
the beginning, that kind of summarizes the entire story in
1:27:22
one graph. And it's the nut of the whole story. This has law as
1:27:28
far as I can tell, I see when so rarely, this is died. This is
1:27:34
not happening anymore. I don't know anyone. Because of the
1:27:38
nature of of layouts and computerized layouts and and
1:27:43
endless stories at GM are on forever. There's a lot of
1:27:46
reasons. But I don't believe the nut graph is in play anymore.
1:27:51
And I don't think anyone looks for it. And I think very few
1:27:53
people write one, I think is bold crap.
1:27:56
Unknown: In journalism, we often look for what's called that
1:27:58
graph, which sort of like the summary paragraph. And this
1:28:01
case, the end of the graph was that I have right here, quote,
1:28:04
critics have called such ideas dangerous and unconstitutional.
1:28:08
That's the construction of a story that has two sides that
1:28:11
are equally valid. And one is Person A says this. And critics
1:28:16
say he's wrong. That's no longer adequate construction for what's
1:28:20
going on in this political claim. It's
1:28:23
Adam Curry: no longer adequate. And that's not adequate anymore.
1:28:25
It's not no,
1:28:26
John C Dvorak: because there's not two sides of any story.
1:28:28
There's only one side our side.
1:28:31
Adam Curry: So as a little intermezzo, no, I have one more
1:28:34
clip after this.
1:28:35
John C Dvorak: And by the way, since you mentioned the
1:28:37
newsletter, I did point out in there, that the worst example of
1:28:42
this and it probably exemplifies all these clips, too, is the
1:28:46
Brooks and K part. Yes. segment where these two guys are
1:28:52
fighting each other to agree who's in more agreement with the
1:28:56
other guy. There's no longer and it used to be a point
1:28:59
counterpoint. They had a guy from the New Republic or not the
1:29:03
New Republic, but the National Review, some some Indian guy who
1:29:07
they brought him on once and he was really good at defending all
1:29:10
this the Republican side of all these arguments, and it brought
1:29:14
insight into the into the debate, but no, they can't have
1:29:18
that as one side, one side, one side only. And that's what this
1:29:21
guy is expressing one side. No, the other side is wrong. Not
1:29:26
graph.
1:29:28
Adam Curry: I just love it's a good turn. It's like a trans
1:29:31
term, nut graph. Anyway, so right now we're going to get a
1:29:37
quick example. They don't even realize they're doing this,
1:29:39
because in a minute, you know, he'll tell you what editors must
1:29:42
be doing. This is an example of the type of reporting he feels
1:29:46
would be appropriate. As these two nut graphs, the OT and the
1:29:51
on the media guy and this Frumkin Jumoke are going to get
1:29:55
all giddy over how they would report what happened with Trump
1:29:58
in the court
1:29:59
Unknown: and on Monday. He took the stand under oath. This was a
1:30:02
historic event
1:30:04
coverage, if you were following it and like the live blogs on
1:30:08
social media, what you heard was an astonishing story of somebody
1:30:11
who is completely unhinged, who was completely delusional, who
1:30:15
was smirking, who was making faces who was being provocative,
1:30:18
who was taunting the judge. But then the articles all came out.
1:30:21
They said things like, Trump defends himself and attacks
1:30:25
judge. What's essentially happening is these articles
1:30:28
cover up for Trump's unhinged pneus. They basically unhinged
1:30:34
eyes.
1:30:35
Adam Curry: Is that a word? unhinged? pneus? Is this a
1:30:37
journalist now a journalistic term? What's
1:30:40
Unknown: essentially happening is these articles cover up for
1:30:43
Trump's unhinged pneus. They basically summarize a lot of
1:30:48
things that were crazy into a few sentences that aren't crazy.
1:30:52
And so I think it's very deceptive. I think that people
1:30:55
who read the main story the next morning had no idea what really
1:30:58
happened that day. What
1:30:59
Adam Curry: are you drinking?
1:31:00
John C Dvorak: Oh, I heard you I heard you can't pull or just the
1:31:04
plain old polar I when I if I bring it closer to the mic and
1:31:07
open and make some serious sound, then you know, I that's
1:31:10
the cue disempowered. I'm doing this under my shirt away from
1:31:14
the mic a mile away, and you're picking it up.
1:31:19
Adam Curry: You know, ever since that operation, my ears are just
1:31:21
good. I can't help but my ears are just sharp. Alright, let's
1:31:25
get back to an accurate description of what Trump was
1:31:27
doing in court.
1:31:29
Unknown: On one hand, he gets to put on his show make it seem
1:31:31
like it's a witch hunt, rile up consumers of the right wing
1:31:35
media, who would be happy to see that he was barking like a mad
1:31:41
dog at the judge in general. But for the now,
1:31:47
Adam Curry: is that an accurate description of what he was
1:31:49
doing? He was barking like a mad dog at the judge?
1:31:53
John C Dvorak: No, but that's the way they want, right?
1:31:56
Reporting to be from now on out
1:31:58
Unknown: exactly barking like a mad dog at the judge and the
1:32:02
attorney general. But for the legitimate press, it kind of
1:32:07
just seems like Well, yeah, if you're a defendant, then you're
1:32:10
angry. And you make a case for yourself. Right? Right.
1:32:13
I mean, I remember watching the coverage of the COVID pandemic
1:32:18
under Trump and he'd get up and he'd say something completely
1:32:20
nonsensical. Reporters would fall all over themselves trying
1:32:23
to sort of make sense of it. And it's this is this
1:32:25
Adam Curry: is a lie. By the way. This is just not true. They
1:32:28
excoriated President Trump for everything he said, during
1:32:32
COVID. Everything
1:32:38
John C Dvorak: hydroxychloroquine is nonsensical, it's
1:32:41
Adam Curry: it's horsey warmer, he's telling you to drink
1:32:43
bleach.
1:32:44
Unknown: I mean, I remember watching the coverage of the
1:32:47
COVID pandemic under Trump and he'd get up and he'd say
1:32:50
something completely nonsensical. The reporters would
1:32:53
fall all over themselves trying to sort of make sense of it and
1:32:55
explain what he just said. As opposed to reporting. Donald
1:32:59
Trump just said a bunch of stuff that made no sense.
1:33:02
Adam Curry: I think they said that they said, they said that a
1:33:05
lot. He's unhinged your bowl.
1:33:07
John C Dvorak: They said that most of the time. That's why I
1:33:09
have that Trump list. Yes,
1:33:11
Adam Curry: we're gonna play that the end of show. Final,
1:33:14
final final clip. Now, Dan, from Kim, the bastion of journalism
1:33:18
is going to explain, explain what has to be done here. Dan,
1:33:22
this feels
1:33:22
Unknown: like deja vu all over again. Well, I mean, we've been
1:33:26
hearing warnings from press critics for years now. But what
1:33:29
Adam Curry: is with NPR is chuckling the whole time. We've
1:33:33
been here
1:33:35
Unknown: again, I mean, we've been hearing warnings from press
1:33:38
critics for years now about how to cover Donald Trump in the
1:33:42
right way. Just this week, Margaret Sullivan published a
1:33:45
piece in The Guardian titled The public doesn't understand the
1:33:49
risks of a Trump victory. That's the media's fault.
1:33:52
Great base.
1:33:53
Right. I agree that we have culpability here and that we
1:33:56
could do it better. But it's also the case that facts don't
1:34:00
seem to change minds like they used to. There have been
1:34:04
warnings of his dangerous to our democracy. And
1:34:08
Adam Curry: it has or have if it's if it's plural, if it's had
1:34:12
if this warnings isn't it have been have been warnings.
1:34:18
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to stop on this but they're being
1:34:21
possibly he's using your own.
1:34:23
Adam Curry: He said there has been warnings come on. That's
1:34:27
not Kruk proper English, is it? There have been warning and we
1:34:31
said there has been warnings.
1:34:33
John C Dvorak: There has been warning.
1:34:36
Adam Curry: I don't care. Well, since the topic is reporting
1:34:40
properly. Well,
1:34:41
John C Dvorak: you guys are obviously off the rails already.
1:34:44
Unknown: It's also the case that facts don't seem to change minds
1:34:48
like they used to. There have been warnings of his dangerous
1:34:52
to our democracy. And you could argue there aren't enough but
1:34:57
perhaps they're just not sticking to
1:34:59
the press. critics have been saying stuff like this for years
1:35:02
now, that's absolutely correct. And they've not been heard. But
1:35:05
I think that at some point, it may sink in, we may have to wait
1:35:09
until next generation of editors, the leaders of our
1:35:12
newsrooms have just gotten used to still covering what is
1:35:15
basically an asymmetrical political climate, as if there
1:35:18
are two equal parties involved in the discussion. My feeling is
1:35:22
at some point, oh, one of them is going to wake up look in the
1:35:26
mirror and say, Wait a minute, we're not doing this, right. We
1:35:29
need to reset because we are we are not successfully informing
1:35:33
the American electronic information organizations. At
1:35:35
some point, you just say, whoa, whoa, doing isn't working.
1:35:39
That's what I think people like Margot. So
1:35:40
Adam Curry: because journalism, journalism has to work. It's
1:35:44
it's not so
1:35:44
John C Dvorak: it's already left leaning. He wants to just go all
1:35:48
the way and he says there's no two. There's no two sides. It's
1:35:51
all Democrats. There's no such thing as Republicans are evil.
1:35:54
No, that's what he basically is saying.
1:35:57
Adam Curry: He says, this is not working. What is the point? What
1:36:00
is what is the outcome of journalism? Is this supposed to
1:36:02
work for something? Is journalism. So it's not
1:36:06
Unknown: changing the world? Because we are, we are not
1:36:09
successfully informing the American electorate. news
1:36:12
organizations at some point need to say, Whoa, what we're doing
1:36:15
isn't working. That's Margaret Sullivan. And Jay rose, and I
1:36:21
and a whole bunch of rows
1:36:23
John C Dvorak: and Jay.
1:36:25
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen, the professor. The NYU professor of
1:36:30
journalism, didn't get didn't get fired.
1:36:34
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. Yeah, I
1:36:35
Adam Curry: think he did. Almost second. No,
1:36:38
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. Jay wrote, yes,
1:36:40
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen got fired. I think maybe I'm wrong. He'd
1:36:47
John C Dvorak: land someplace in a minute. Working.
1:36:50
Unknown: That's what I think people like Margot Sullivan and
1:36:52
Jay Rose and I and a whole bunch of other people who are you are
1:36:58
saying, Stop what you're doing. Realize that it's not actually
1:37:03
getting the job done up and forming the American people and
1:37:06
figure out how else to do it.
1:37:09
Adam Curry: In his mind, informing the American people is
1:37:13
propaganda propaganda using the American people. Yes. Yeah.
1:37:17
Well, here Leslie says she brought it up. Well, I wanted to
1:37:20
play my example first. Well,
1:37:23
John C Dvorak: first of all, the beer example of what the New
1:37:25
York court case no that he mentioned. No,
1:37:27
Adam Curry: no. My example of a journalist doing what he wants.
1:37:33
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'll play that. But I wanted to get get
1:37:36
him on the record straight what he said about just going on,
1:37:39
he's barking at the judge. And what really,
1:37:44
Adam Curry: is it one clip or multiple clips? Just one clip,
1:37:47
New York
1:37:47
John C Dvorak: case judicial complaint?
1:37:49
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. allegations
1:37:51
Unknown: of misconduct against New York judge Arthur and Goron.
1:37:54
A Congresswoman says the judge is biased against former
1:37:57
President Trump in the financial fraud trial. Why she says he's
1:38:01
showing clear judicial bias. Here's our Legal Correspondent
1:38:05
Arlene Richards tonight. Tonight,
1:38:07
Judge Arthur and Goran is on notice that his behavior is not
1:38:11
acceptable and the financial fraud case that accuses former
1:38:15
President Trump and two of his sons of inflating his net worth
1:38:18
by as much as $2 billion. Representative Elise Stefanik
1:38:23
says in a letter to a judicial Ethics Commission, that the
1:38:26
judge has been displaying bizarre behavior and bad
1:38:29
judgment. For example, She says when Trump was on the stand, the
1:38:33
judge told him we are not here to listen to what you have to
1:38:36
say. And he issued a gag order against Trump that's to phonic
1:38:40
believes infringes on his political speech rights. She
1:38:44
says it's unAmerican, and that the order restraints Trump's
1:38:47
first amendment rights, the judge ruled that the Trumps were
1:38:50
fraudulent before the trial began. Stefanik says he made the
1:38:54
decision without witnesses other evidence and cross examination,
1:38:58
and that the ruling was ridiculous because he valued
1:39:01
Trump's Mar a Lago property at $18 million when he had sworn
1:39:06
testimony from a real estate agent, that it was worth
1:39:08
substantially more. Trump's attorneys have accused the
1:39:12
judges law clerk of influencing his decisions, and for that the
1:39:15
judge issued a gag order against them. Stefanik says the judge
1:39:19
and his law clerk are donating way too much to Democrats and
1:39:23
that it's against judicial rules. She wants the commission
1:39:27
to take corrective action and concludes that judge on Goren
1:39:30
must recuse himself from this case
1:39:36
John C Dvorak: this funny kind of a different report that we
1:39:38
got there from our NPR on the media dude well let's
1:39:42
Adam Curry: go to MSNBC just to get an idea of how it's supposed
1:39:45
not that they matter to this the point the MSNBC it doesn't
1:39:50
matter that they don't matter for the on the media dude. And
1:39:53
Frumkin Froome. Can that has to be the new york times we have to
1:39:58
corrupt the source of where it has to come from? Here's Velshi,
1:40:02
Unknown: good people who like things like respecting election
1:40:04
results and rule of law not attempting goos now have to
1:40:08
assume that Republicans cannot or more likely will not stamp
1:40:12
out the threat of Trumpism in their party. They've never
1:40:16
materialized for Republicans, which was good news to democracy
1:40:19
in the 2022. midterms. My Republicans really did get
1:40:22
trounced this week, which is even wrong. Good news for
1:40:25
democracy. The leader of the Republican Party has recently
1:40:29
been posting memes of the US Capitol. Oh no on fire fire with
1:40:35
the words. I'm coming back to clean up this mess. That
1:40:39
actually happened as the FBI was in the midst of a manhunt to why
1:40:44
John C Dvorak: it actually happened. It actually happened
1:40:46
This
1:40:46
Adam Curry: is breaking news. Breaking news. It actually
1:40:48
happened. Hold on I
1:40:50
John C Dvorak: posted a meme.
1:40:54
Unknown: posted a meme of the Republican Party has recently
1:40:57
been posting memes of the US Capitol on fire not on fire with
1:41:04
the words. I'm coming back to defacto clean up this mess. That
1:41:09
actually happened as the FBI was in the midst of a manhunt today
1:41:13
for a capital rioter, a former New Jersey National Guard police
1:41:17
sergeant, who was accused of pepper spraying officers at the
1:41:20
Capitol on January 6, How
1:41:22
Adam Curry: insensitive he posted a meme of the Capitol on
1:41:25
fire as they were arresting someone who was at the Capitol.
1:41:29
Unknown: NBC reports that Gregory Yetman was identified in
1:41:32
early 2022 by online sleuths who go by the name sedition hunters,
1:41:38
a group that has aided in the arrests of hundreds of capital
1:41:41
rioters sedition
1:41:42
Adam Curry: hunters. I've heard a lot of hunters thing usually
1:41:44
in the porn category, but okay, so edition hunters, the
1:41:48
Unknown: online sleuth said that Yetman was seen unloading a
1:41:51
canister of chemical weapons from behind the police line as
1:41:55
officers came under attack on January 6 to a nice use of
1:41:58
chemical weapon nice ni 21. That image of Yetman was featured in
1:42:03
a wanted poster released by the FBI on Thursday, before he
1:42:08
finally surrendered. Do
1:42:09
Adam Curry: you remember Kathy Griffin with the with the cut
1:42:11
off head of Trump remember that? Remember how cool that was?
1:42:14
Those days? It was fabulous. back those days.
1:42:18
Unknown: Now Trump hyping memes of a burning capitol building
1:42:21
names while one of His followers was literally put in handcuffs
1:42:25
today for allegedly attacking it. That whole thing was met
1:42:30
with crickets from Republicans. They can't or more likely where
1:42:34
they won't stand up to it.
1:42:36
John C Dvorak: And I'd like to say so to stand up to it's just
1:42:39
an occurrence.
1:42:40
Adam Curry: I'd like to say once again. There's a meme that I
1:42:44
hate memes
1:42:46
John C Dvorak: This is not what is not a meme. It's a fact.
1:42:49
Adam Curry: I don't I hate bad memes. I would like you're the
1:42:55
same liar who told people I hate dogs. I had to go get a dog to
1:42:59
prove you're lying. To you
1:43:01
John C Dvorak: used to hate dogs.
1:43:03
Adam Curry: I never hated took a
1:43:04
John C Dvorak: dog to bring the love out of you.
1:43:08
Adam Curry: I think I have to become the biggest shitposting
1:43:11
meme er of all time. Yes, I
1:43:13
John C Dvorak: think that would convince me otherwise. I
1:43:15
Adam Curry: think that's gonna have to have you would get the
1:43:17
shakes. I already have the shakes. It can't get much worse
1:43:24
than it already is. I wish that one of our no agenda memes was
1:43:30
being renamed by President meme. But no, because most memes suck.
1:43:36
And if it's a good meme, I always boost it. Like boost
1:43:39
memes
1:43:40
John C Dvorak: you boosted recently you've begun to boost
1:43:44
memes I
1:43:44
Adam Curry: know. Boosted memes
1:43:46
John C Dvorak: recently you've begun to boost memes to try to
1:43:50
change your reputation as a meme. Okay,
1:43:53
Adam Curry: all right, you you lie the you This is really I
1:43:58
can't believe you're doing this to me 60 doing anything
1:44:02
John C Dvorak: to USD I have never held show forces with a no
1:44:05
agenda social what you set up that are doing this to you not
1:44:10
me I'm just agreeing with them.
1:44:12
Adam Curry: This is what I mean to Brutus on believable,
1:44:17
believable No, I only hate bad memes and people who send out
1:44:22
1000 Memes that's all they do. Go to twitter to do your memes
1:44:27
If all you've got is Me me me me me me me. Go somewhere else go
1:44:31
to Mastodon dot social and send out your Oh, I'm sorry. That
1:44:35
won't let you have an account.
1:44:36
John C Dvorak: Get a quick clip of time clip for the anime
1:44:40
thing. It was really funny.
1:44:42
Unknown: Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: So, just to change the topic for a minute,
1:44:50
let's
1:44:50
Adam Curry: please,
1:44:52
John C Dvorak: let's talk about Jordan Peterson you talked about
1:44:54
in the last year. Oh yeah. Well,
1:44:56
Adam Curry: I by thought I deconstructed the Ark and
1:44:59
John C Dvorak: he did a great job. Yeah, but I have to say,
1:45:01
amazing PA. There's a Polly Foley came out with a fairy. You
1:45:08
told me about it. Yep. No, I
1:45:10
Adam Curry: sent you the link. I said, Look at this gory
1:45:13
John C Dvorak: ating. She's good. But then there was an
1:45:15
earlier one wishes, which was kind of the beginning of the
1:45:18
second one, but and it was worth listening to because there's a
1:45:20
couple of bits in there that were funny. I have two Jordan
1:45:24
Peterson clips to play. The first one. I'm trying to think
1:45:27
which one I should play first. But let me play this one first,
1:45:30
which is the Jordan Peterson edit clip. And this is like, how
1:45:34
can John resist doing this edit on this comment by Jordan
1:45:39
Peterson,
1:45:40
Unknown: January 27. I announced on Joe Rogan's show that I had
1:45:45
been working with a group of people in the UK and Europe and
1:45:48
Australia and New Zealand and Canada, and the US, South
1:45:52
Carolina,
1:45:54
Arizona, and North Dakota and New Mexico. We're going to
1:45:57
California and Texas and New York. We're going to South
1:46:01
Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we go to
1:46:05
Washington DC to take back the White House.
1:46:10
Adam Curry: Chapeau Shep Oh Shep Oh, author off editor. So
1:46:17
John C Dvorak: I got that out of my system. So which I like to do
1:46:23
about once a year with that
1:46:25
Adam Curry: was a good one. The famous Dean scream never never
1:46:28
disappoints, it always. It always deals a winner. It's a
1:46:31
winner.
1:46:32
John C Dvorak: So here is Jordan Peterson talking about the
1:46:35
future. But this is from the poly thing is basically Jordan
1:46:39
Peterson describing what they think should be the future of
1:46:43
mankind, you know, some futuristic vision. And then then
1:46:47
poly comes in with a comment at the end, which is right on the
1:46:50
money. And I have something to say about it to a
1:46:53
Unknown: group that I'm describing is based on this
1:46:55
principle of subsidiarity. And the idea that we want to
1:46:58
encourage everyone to take as much responsibility as possible
1:47:01
at the most local level possible, right? So take
1:47:04
responsibility for yourself until you're good enough at
1:47:07
that. So you can take responsibility, maybe for a
1:47:09
wife. And then if you're good enough at that, maybe you can
1:47:12
extend that to some kids. And then maybe you can serve your
1:47:15
local community. And then maybe you can serve your state and
1:47:18
maybe if you really get good at it, you could serve your nation,
1:47:22
as you see that still a hierarchy right. And it sounds
1:47:25
actually kinda like what we live with right now.
1:47:28
John C Dvorak: Okay, exactly what we live with right now. He
1:47:32
brought up nothing. This is like telling somebody, oh, here's how
1:47:34
you do it. This is how you get a glass of water. You see the
1:47:37
steps that up to the house, you take the step take you put your
1:47:40
left foot on the front, then put his step up, up, step, step,
1:47:44
step two to get to the top of the steps, then open the door to
1:47:47
the house, then close the door behind you. And then go into the
1:47:50
kitchen, step into the kitchen, and then turn on the faucet and
1:47:53
get yourself a drink of water and then drink the water. This
1:47:56
is idiotic what he said. It's so Ovid this is this is not
1:48:02
anything new. It's were brought out something in her
1:48:05
discussions, which was that he lost his memory for a whole
1:48:10
month while he was in Russia. No, I didn't know this. But
1:48:15
during his treatment for his drug addiction, which was cured,
1:48:20
and it was traumatic in his in Russia, there's a month of his
1:48:23
life. He doesn't remember something is wrong with Jordan
1:48:26
Peterson.
1:48:31
Adam Curry: What's wrong as he's no longer entertaining? I mean,
1:48:35
I'll sit there and I'll watch it from that
1:48:37
John C Dvorak: perspective. Yes, but I think there's something
1:48:39
wrong wrong. But yes, yes. You're right about
1:48:41
Adam Curry: that. Well, this is this is a distinct difference
1:48:44
now was it after? I don't think it was after the the drug
1:48:47
addiction because and it was barbituates you know, when she
1:48:51
started taking because his wife Ali and basically yeah, there's
1:48:54
a lot of issues and barbiturates a hard man, it's hard to get off
1:48:58
of those. So and props to his daughter for saving his life and
1:49:02
becoming a carnivore, which also seems to have saved his life,
1:49:06
all kinds of things. And so I'm not discrediting or discounting
1:49:09
any of that. But I would say the minute he became part of the
1:49:15
daily wire, which in my mind, this is now am 5am CANDACE
1:49:20
Owens, the Jordan Peterson at the blaze as well, you know,
1:49:26
what's his name? The Rubin Rubin. The other guy. Had the
1:49:33
black
1:49:34
John C Dvorak: guy, the black and black guy, that big black
1:49:36
guy who can't remember his name because nobody listens to his
1:49:39
stuff anymore.
1:49:40
Adam Curry: Yeah. Megyn Kelly, Dan bond Geno code Bungie No.
1:49:47
John C Dvorak: Code Bungie No.
1:49:50
Adam Curry: What's his name? But j is Jason Whitlock?
1:49:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with like, that's
1:49:54
Adam Curry: the black guy or something. Something is wrong
1:49:57
with all of this. He really Is there something off and I think,
1:50:03
you know,
1:50:03
John C Dvorak: to contact and argue better than what you're
1:50:05
saying because I felt this way and the one that when I first
1:50:11
got triggered by it was Rubin because I always thought Dave
1:50:14
Rubin was great when he when he was was great when he was doing
1:50:18
his thing in that little room where the two people sat across
1:50:20
the table. And then all of a sudden he became lame. Yep, yes,
1:50:26
Adam Curry: capital L is very odd and I think he's competent.
1:50:31
Not Rubin, but Jordan Peterson is compensating with a
1:50:35
symmetrical Joker light jackets. What is up with that?
1:50:42
John C Dvorak: That means the asymmetrical jacket is some sort
1:50:44
of giveaway.
1:50:44
Adam Curry: I'm wacky. Look at me. I'm wacky. I mean, what
1:50:47
John C Dvorak: mounish Did you
1:50:49
Adam Curry: I sent you a picture.
1:50:50
John C Dvorak: I'm a clown. Look at me. Does Oh, he's missing his
1:50:54
big feet. And you know, red nose? No, he actually looks like
1:50:57
a meet up with Koseki P looks
1:50:59
Adam Curry: like the Joker. It does look like the Joker. If you
1:51:02
look at that most recent interview, I sent you a picture
1:51:06
you
1:51:06
John C Dvorak: did and it was a picture of the Joker and it just
1:51:08
exactly it just positioned the same way. It just look like the
1:51:14
Joker. He looks like the Joker.
1:51:15
Adam Curry: He's faced everything and he's wearing
1:51:18
those wacky asymmetrical jackets. But what is the mess
1:51:21
look when I go on a show like Rogen or Glenn Beck and Glenn
1:51:26
Beck you know he also has a part of this problem this something
1:51:33
although it's not I think it's business for him but these other
1:51:37
people it's mental and but I think about what I wear you know
1:51:42
I discuss it with my wife what she what I wear last time which
1:51:45
they wear what looks good in the set that that jacket the
1:51:49
Petersons wearing it doesn't look good in any set.
1:51:52
John C Dvorak: No, it looks crazy it one that's not the only
1:51:55
one he's got another one's got leather on one side. Yes, he's
1:51:59
got three or four of these things. It's not like he's got
1:52:01
that one crazy jacket. Why?
1:52:03
Adam Curry: Why why? I don't know but and I it will be easy
1:52:07
to say Oh, once you get paid then it's easy. In fact, I think
1:52:11
the only person I was talking with Mo about this yesterday,
1:52:14
the one person who may be able but she has to she has to man up
1:52:20
is Candace Owens. She's sucked into this she's smarter than
1:52:25
she's lost. She needs to get out she needs to get out she used to
1:52:28
get away from Yeah, I think you're right.
1:52:30
John C Dvorak: No she's she's lost there are other women who
1:52:35
have kind of avoided it in some fashion. I see Dana what's her
1:52:40
name the brunette she's kind of like you know stayed away and
1:52:44
and then Tammy Lara and whatever her name is. Oh, yeah, it
1:52:48
evolved.
1:52:48
Adam Curry: Oh no, but nah. Tamp not Tammy. Tammy Lauren she's
1:52:53
now she's lost that she's no good I don't know ma'am this
1:52:59
there's something going on with the coop
1:53:01
John C Dvorak: This is a classic coops co opted co option to get
1:53:05
co opted Yep, you pulled in now all of a sudden you got suits
1:53:09
telling you what to do or you get too much money and you
1:53:12
you're caring you're worried about losing the stream of money
1:53:16
because it's so much or I don't know I mean, we could have known
1:53:21
by you just saying I saying yes to Glenn Beck when he asked you
1:53:24
to become one of these guys, which I said you could have
1:53:27
reported back but I get the feeling you wouldn't have
1:53:29
reported back. I would have been lost. Gibbon lost just like the
1:53:33
rest have gone sucked into the whole sucked into something
1:53:37
maybe they don't know maybe they're being drugged.
1:53:40
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's a bug. And you get into a meal to
1:53:46
meal you. So you you lose objectivity
1:53:50
John C Dvorak: and get a meal you to adapt to a meal you is
1:53:52
not instantaneous.
1:53:54
Adam Curry: Now, but it didn't happen overnight. This is what
1:53:58
John C Dvorak: seems to have not took
1:54:00
Adam Curry: a while. It took a while for him. I took a while. I
1:54:06
think anything that's on locals that Trump that's probably a
1:54:09
slower burn but the locals crowd
1:54:12
John C Dvorak: you know, I have yet to go into I refuse to get
1:54:15
involved with that. This is like a paywall. You want to go to
1:54:19
locals and go do your own thing? Go ahead. That's not gonna pay
1:54:22
any attention to it. But that's
1:54:23
Adam Curry: Glenn Greenwald is on locals. Yep. Ty EB I think is
1:54:28
in some form of it. Yeah. Well, these are the guys they admit
1:54:31
initially they were with substack substack lost their
1:54:34
funding they actually tried to do of crowdfunding round because
1:54:38
whatever they're doing wasn't working.
1:54:40
John C Dvorak: I think they were paying those guys too much way
1:54:42
too much. And then
1:54:44
Adam Curry: and Greenwald, anti EB took their subscribers to
1:54:49
locals, which was I don't know if that was part of a deal. I
1:54:52
remember
1:54:52
John C Dvorak: Tina, maybe you can take your subscribers off of
1:54:55
substack. Well, Tina
1:54:57
Adam Curry: got an email and it said you're subscription to Mata
1:55:02
Eb, on locals is about to renew. And she said they just took my
1:55:06
credit card over to
1:55:09
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know you can do that hard to do
1:55:12
because those credit cards were should have been. I don't know
1:55:15
how you. I don't know. I don't know. I've never
1:55:18
Adam Curry: anyway, but my point is there's something when you
1:55:22
join these clubs, which is the antithesis of podcasting and
1:55:27
believe me, we learned didn't we John, we learned with POD pod
1:55:30
show me via we learned because what happens is you wind up a
1:55:34
slave to somebody whether it's
1:55:37
John C Dvorak: advertised and you get to complain a lot.
1:55:43
Adam Curry: Why do you even say that?
1:55:46
John C Dvorak: That's what they do. Everybody all the podcasters
1:55:48
I worked at by show, they complained. I complained
1:55:52
constantly. And I'm reminded again, if I would bring this
1:55:55
story up, I told you before we're Neil Rubin King did this
1:55:59
book for McGraw Hill. It was called the Dawson. They can I
1:56:02
think was the name of that told us
1:56:04
Adam Curry: Austin I can remember I do remember Dawson
1:56:09
the cam. Were you a part of that?
1:56:10
John C Dvorak: That Dawson cancer was a book about how to
1:56:13
use dos? It was It may have been windows but I think it was DOS
1:56:16
was this awesome.
1:56:17
Adam Curry: Product? Did
1:56:18
John C Dvorak: you package this? No. I was not involved with the
1:56:20
DOS in the can. All right. But I do it. But I was involved in
1:56:23
McGraw Hill at the time. I had an imprint there. And so Dawson
1:56:27
Ken came out and it was a it was a can that had a book in it. And
1:56:32
you had to open the can with a can opener to get the book out.
1:56:35
And it was Dawson akan Hello, very funny. But of course, we'll
1:56:39
put why this crazy product with floppies no floppies now he
1:56:44
couldn't get a floppy in the can. So so so. So the book was a
1:56:49
flop. And all you heard from Neil Rubin King was complaints
1:56:54
then I putting enough marketing money behind Mike Dawson at
1:56:57
Kent. And it was just one thing after another and so and so you
1:57:01
work in a publishing company you hear nothing but complaining,
1:57:04
complaining, complaining and I give him my book enough
1:57:06
attention. And then I go to MI VO and the same thing every
1:57:10
podcasters are bitching and moaning about how they're not
1:57:13
getting enough credit and nobody cares. It was horrible.
1:57:17
Adam Curry: It's so true. It's this is that's why podcast
1:57:23
networks don't work. Because any kind of just you cannot monetize
1:57:28
the network. Spotify spent a billion dollars trying to prove
1:57:33
it. And they did. But they proved that it doesn't work. Oh
1:57:38
my goodness. I am John. I'm so happy with what we're doing. I
1:57:41
love my job. I love doing Yeah,
1:57:43
John C Dvorak: all we have to do is complain to each other. We
1:57:46
don't even do that. We can do it on the show. It's content.
1:57:52
Valuable. It's
1:57:54
Adam Curry: time for an update. There we go. Everybody did
1:57:56
something special. Here she is.
1:58:00
Unknown: Hi, everyone. Dr. Mandy Cohen from CDC. We are only two
1:58:04
weeks away from Thanksgiving. And I want to remind you to take
1:58:08
steps right now to protect you and your family from COVID. Flu
1:58:12
and RSV because I know many folks are thinking well, I had
1:58:16
COVID. I've already been vaccinated. But this new COVID
1:58:21
vaccine is to match the changes in the virus. It's updated and
1:58:25
restore protection that does decrease over time. It's similar
1:58:30
to the flu shot you get every year. Can you imagine
1:58:32
Adam Curry: if Windows said it's time to update your Windows to
1:58:36
Windows 12. It will reduce F activity over time, but over
1:58:41
time your windows won't work as well. Which by the way is the
1:58:44
truth.
1:58:46
John C Dvorak: model it after. Yes.
1:58:47
Adam Curry: This is exactly what an iPhone
1:58:49
John C Dvorak: is a good example. Yeah.
1:58:51
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, your battery life will go stuff will
1:58:53
get slow. That's when it's time for updated. It's updated for
1:58:57
this world of yours today.
1:58:59
Unknown: The updated COVID-19 vaccine is recommended for
1:59:02
everyone six months and older and it's free for everyone,
1:59:06
either through through your insurance or through a CDC
1:59:10
vaccine program are available in pharmacies and health centers
1:59:14
around the country. These vaccines are safe safe, they've
1:59:18
been through extensive notice
1:59:19
Adam Curry: they've dropped the effective part of the slogan why
1:59:22
bother? It's just
1:59:24
Unknown: scenes are safe. So we've been through extensive
1:59:27
safety review through both CDC and FDA independent committees,
1:59:31
academic groups and more family have concerns please talk to
1:59:35
your doctor or nurse practitioner provider. Let's all
1:59:38
make sure to have a happy and healthy Thanksgiving. Now's the
1:59:42
time to get your shots to better protect you from serious illness
1:59:45
from these viruses. Make your plan to get your COVID and flu
1:59:48
shot today. Be well all right
1:59:50
Adam Curry: be well everybody stay safe and well.
1:59:53
John C Dvorak: I have the alternate approach to selling
1:59:56
vaccines. Well the loop The lunatic Keith Olbermann
2:00:02
Adam Curry: oh god what it does he have a home is he is there I
2:00:09
think okay, I've seen this clip I think it's old I don't think
2:00:12
it's a recent clip but I believe this to be years old
2:00:16
John C Dvorak: I don't know if it's years old Yeah, I
2:00:18
Adam Curry: think it is let me see
2:00:19
John C Dvorak: well I don't want to play at the end of his years
2:00:21
old I thought it was fairly recent because his hair is so
2:00:24
gray
2:00:25
Adam Curry: let me let me just let me just check Olbermann
2:00:27
check because I'm when I watched him like this unhinged
2:00:34
Olbermann. That's
2:00:36
John C Dvorak: That's all now you're being redundant.
2:00:40
Adam Curry: Let's play it just in case people it may be old,
2:00:42
but it's worth it. It
2:00:43
John C Dvorak: may be also an oldie but a goodie. I've never
2:00:45
seen it before.
2:00:47
Unknown: I understand cobbling booster shot mission
2:00:51
accomplished. And it is it is time to stop coddling them. The
2:00:56
ones who won't get the damn shot already.
2:00:59
Adam Curry: This is why I thought it was old because
2:01:01
that's no longer the mean the damn shot already that that's
2:01:05
that's that's I agree with you has
2:01:07
John C Dvorak: an old sound to it not in play. And
2:01:09
Unknown: our first step you and I is symbols. The language we
2:01:14
use. We call these people vaccine hesitant vaccine
2:01:17
skeptics anti Vax, we say they're protesting mandates and
2:01:21
passports. They're making a personal choice. They're waiting
2:01:24
for more information. They're making a medical decision.
2:01:27
Bullshit. They're afraid. They're afraid to get
2:01:32
vaccinated. Stop feeding their egos about what they're doing,
2:01:37
stop legitimizing it. Vaccine hesitant. They're afraid.
2:01:42
Vaccine skeptics. They're afraid. Anti backs. They're
2:01:46
afraid. They're protesting mandates and passports they are
2:01:50
afraid old. There may be a personal trainer afraid alright.
2:01:54
Oh,
2:01:54
Adam Curry: I can't listen to it. It's old. I'm I want to talk
2:01:58
about modern. This is not a modern way to sell vaccines. No.
2:02:03
The, by the way. That was Dr. Mandy. She is the Director of
2:02:07
CDC. She's the new director. Yes.
2:02:09
John C Dvorak: She's also a sorority sister and Kappa and
2:02:14
probably and she's and she's going to be shopping this
2:02:17
afternoon.
2:02:19
Adam Curry: This is the way you sell vaccines. Everybody knows
2:02:22
the way to get the market jacked is to create scarcity,
2:02:26
Unknown: the turnout of the nationwide rise in cases of the
2:02:28
respiratory illness RSV, a children's hospital in Fort
2:02:32
Worth, Texas says it's in 500 patients a day as cases climb.
2:02:37
Adam Curry: Okay, I just wanted to stop here because I believe
2:02:40
this to be a cleverly written script. She did not say that
2:02:46
this hospital in Texas wherever it was, is seeing 500 cases of
2:02:51
RSV a day. She just says they're seeing 500 patients a day. And
2:02:57
then she goes into RSV I think this is a commercial. And I
2:03:01
think they put as a data ad it's well it's a native ad and they
2:03:05
put this in at the beginning because this doesn't ring true.
2:03:08
Unknown: I want to turn now to the nationwide rise in cases of
2:03:10
the respiratory illness RSV. At Children's Hospital in Fort
2:03:14
Worth, Texas says it's in 500 patients a day
2:03:17
Adam Curry: away. I'm at the Children's Hospital in Fort
2:03:20
Worth, Texas. Is that is that our boy Hotep Oh, it might be
2:03:25
that might be our boy Hotep now think about so they're seeing
2:03:28
500 patients a day. Well, of course they see 500 budges
2:03:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just for broken arms for all kinds of
2:03:34
turnout
2:03:34
Unknown: of the nationwide rise in cases of the respiratory
2:03:37
illness RSV. A Children's Hospital in Fort Worth, Texas
2:03:40
says it seems 500 patients a day as cases climb best case size of
2:03:45
a new antibody shot designed to protect infants from the virus
2:03:48
are not keeping up with demand. CBS has Mark Strassman reports
2:03:52
and tonight's Healthwatch parents and hard hit areas like
2:03:55
Georgia are scrambling to find the life saving shots. Little
2:03:59
Lucas sir and
2:04:00
his mother was lucky.
2:04:02
Adam Curry: Why? Why didn't they do the story about that
2:04:05
Children's Hospital in Fort Worth? Now they have to go to
2:04:09
your
2:04:09
John C Dvorak: jumping to Georgia. Yeah, can I windy? Like
2:04:13
I said until a couple of years ago I've never heard of Rs in
2:04:17
fact not even that I think for the last two years maybe? Yeah,
2:04:21
I've heard it never heard of RSV. It's now a life saving shot
2:04:25
when did the shot never existed? And nobody talked about people
2:04:28
dropping dead in the streets from RSV RSV has bullcrap
2:04:33
Adam Curry: RSV has been around for a long time you don't know
2:04:36
because you don't have little children. Tina also says John's
2:04:41
full of crap. It's been around for a long time but you're
2:04:43
correct that this hype about it has never been around that I had
2:04:49
little
2:04:49
John C Dvorak: children in my day and I never heard of RSV
2:04:53
parents and hard hit areas like Georgia wait. Tina is obviously
2:04:57
been brainwashed somewhere along the line. Hey in RSV was made
2:05:01
she was made it, it was good. She got it was we've had many
2:05:05
parents told about it No. But before her if you go predate
2:05:11
Tina, in terms of like women, they've nobody heard about it.
2:05:16
Okay, she is RSV generation one. Case zero. Okay.
2:05:22
Adam Curry: Well, I'll take that. But we have had parents
2:05:26
play with boots on the ground reports that yes, it is a thing,
2:05:30
but it's not the thing that they're making it out to be.
2:05:34
What can we accept that? It's just a no. Okay. John
2:05:40
dvorak.org. Don't email me about your RSVP
2:05:44
John C Dvorak: for snow. I'm saying no to is not a thing. It
2:05:48
never was a thing. This is just hype to sell vaccine. Well, yes.
2:05:52
Adam Curry: And they're doing it now by saying there's not enough
2:05:54
vaccines. Where have we seen that done before
2:05:57
Unknown: reports and tonight conflict parents and hard hit
2:05:59
areas like Georgia are scrambling to find the life
2:06:02
saving shots. Little Lucas
2:06:05
siRNAs mother was lucky to get him an RSV shot while his
2:06:08
pediatrician still had it in stock. A lot of like in the news
2:06:13
and babies get real sick. So I was like, might as well just do
2:06:17
it. Demand for the antibody shot has been unprecedented. So
2:06:21
popular. The CDC is now recommending pediatricians like
2:06:24
Dr. Jennifer, it's so
2:06:25
Adam Curry: popular John. It's so popular at $1,000 a pop which
2:06:30
insurance doesn't cover it's so popular shoe
2:06:34
Unknown: give it only to their most vulnerable patients,
2:06:37
infants younger than six months and those with underlying
2:06:40
conditions that put them at risk. We're hoping
2:06:43
it's going to really cut down and hospitalizations as well as
2:06:46
complications like pneumonia or even death. Why are they
2:06:49
particularly susceptible? Their immune systems aren't developed
2:06:52
yet. So the second thing is that their airways are a little bit
2:06:55
smaller.
2:06:56
RSV symptoms include a high fever, worsening cough and
2:07:00
trouble breathing symptoms that can lead to hospitalization, and
2:07:04
even death. Chris Comstock 20 month old daughter Adeline got
2:07:07
RSV. In September, she spent nine days fighting for her life
2:07:12
in the hospital.
2:07:14
I remember my wife and I were standing in the hospital room
2:07:18
crying going, what do you do? I have zero control sitting in
2:07:21
that hospital room knowing I can do nothing to help my child and
2:07:26
then watching her walk and run and get back to health again.
2:07:30
You can't put a price tag on the thankfulness that we have. Dr.
2:07:34
Xu
2:07:34
says with cases still rising in Georgia, she's almost out of
2:07:39
shots. Mark Strassman, CBS News, Atlanta.
2:07:43
John C Dvorak: Here I want to I gotta read this to you. This
2:07:46
from the CDC. RSV surveillance and research six to 10,000
2:07:52
deaths among adults 65 years and older. So that's where the real
2:07:56
problem is. 300 To 300 deaths in children younger than five.
2:08:01
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I'm agreeing with you. Yeah,
2:08:05
John C Dvorak: well listen to this. RSV, responsible for one
2:08:08
in 50 child deaths between 100,200 1000 babies die from the
2:08:14
virus every year. According to CNN, Bill and Melinda Gates
2:08:20
Foundation, RSV causes more than 100,000 deaths in children under
2:08:25
five each year. Now how does that sound when the CDC says
2:08:29
it's like 100? They have 100,000? Yeah, what what's wrong
2:08:33
with this picture?
2:08:35
Adam Curry: No, it's not wrong. You're You're correct. I'm just
2:08:37
saying you can't say it doesn't exist or it's a hoax. But people
2:08:41
have been and their children go to the especially prematurely
2:08:45
born children. We have a lot of children with immune disorders
2:08:50
because of I don't know, previous vaccines possibly is
2:08:53
all kinds of stuff going on. But yes, it's it is a hoax. Okay,
2:08:58
I'll give you that. But now I'm gonna give you the real hoax.
2:09:03
John C Dvorak: But I'm now I'm just kind of curious why one
2:09:06
group, the CDC says it's like 100 to 300 total. And you have
2:09:11
Bill and Melinda Gates and CNN saying is 100,000 to 300,000.
2:09:16
Why,
2:09:17
Adam Curry: seriously, you're asking me Why do you think that
2:09:19
there's an investment somewhere in an RSV vaccination company,
2:09:23
we know why this
2:09:25
John C Dvorak: can't be this sort of corruption,
2:09:28
Adam Curry: test gambling going on there. Okay. So I got to read
2:09:35
this article to you.
2:09:38
John C Dvorak: I'm appalled. By the way by these days, grepping
2:09:41
numbers,
2:09:42
Adam Curry: you should be you should be. So we have a big
2:09:47
issue with excess deaths amongst newborns. And everyone's
2:09:56
baffled, take care. They can't figure out what this could be.
2:10:03
And you'll look at story after story after story. And they'll
2:10:07
come up with well, you know, RSV, the flu, you know, what is
2:10:13
the obvious thing that they omit from all of their guesswork?
2:10:19
COVID vaccinations? And what? Yes, that is not in any of the
2:10:26
stories, not a single story will list COVID vaccinations or any
2:10:32
vaccination as a possibility for although the remember,
2:10:39
correlation is not causation. It lines up perfectly. But
2:10:42
correlation is not causation. We have children being born who are
2:10:47
weak, we have children being born who prematurely who are
2:10:50
weak, we have a huge crisis amongst women, who I mean, we
2:10:58
don't have to go. It was it was funny when I, when I said, Hey,
2:11:03
there's all these studies showing that women are getting,
2:11:06
you know, postmenopausal bleeding, there's all kinds of
2:11:09
stuff that's happening post COVID vaccination. And you know,
2:11:12
people say that's not true. You're not reading it, right.
2:11:15
And now, of course, Oh, all right. You are right, it's true.
2:11:19
So something has happened, there has been an attack willingly or
2:11:23
not, on women's reproductive system, God given women's
2:11:28
reproductive system. And so amongst all of this guessing,
2:11:33
USA Today, link to a video, which I think this is the clean,
2:11:37
I hope this is the cleaned up version of Planned Parenthood.
2:11:43
And they actually understand why this excess death is taking
2:11:46
place among
2:11:51
Unknown: among newborns, but black women and babies in
2:11:54
Wisconsin already have higher mortality rates than white
2:11:57
babies. Are we concerned about those racial disparities and the
2:12:02
growth of those disparities as a result of this decision?
2:12:05
Adam Curry: So firstly, comes the this is not the cleaned up
2:12:09
version. I'm now just noticing. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Almost
2:12:13
second. Half the cleaned up version, I think said that for
2:12:18
some reason. Yes. I have. Yes. I think I have it here. Hold on.
2:12:26
Work. Yes. Sorry, because that was bad. I think this is the
2:12:31
this is cleaned up. Yeah. Here we go. The
2:12:34
Unknown: black women and babies in Wisconsin already have higher
2:12:37
mortality rates than white babies. Are we concerned about
2:12:40
those racial disparities and the growth of those disparities as a
2:12:44
result of this decision?
2:12:46
Adam Curry: So here comes the Tonya Atkinson, the current and
2:12:49
new CEO of Planned Parenthood, she'll, she'll take this first.
2:12:53
Unknown: And I'm gonna open it up to whoever feels comfortable
2:12:57
to call
2:12:57
Adam Curry: obviously, that yeah, I'm comfortable. I'll
2:13:00
start
2:13:01
Unknown: and would encourage anyone else to join we are we
2:13:04
are very concerned about that. We see the inequities in the
2:13:09
health care system. And we certainly see the inequities in
2:13:14
as the as the person who has the question, and we certainly see
2:13:17
the inequities in maternal health. And so so we understand
2:13:24
in our heads,
2:13:24
Adam Curry: well, they're all desperately trying to make a
2:13:28
point and that's why they're hemming and hawing and oming.
2:13:30
And moving
2:13:31
Unknown: does system have a disproportionate impact on
2:13:34
people who are already marginalized in our health care
2:13:37
system for already experiencing inequities in our healthcare
2:13:39
system. And, and a very unfortunately, you know, black
2:13:47
pregnancy bowl, experience some of the starkest inequities here
2:13:54
in Wisconsin and incomparably across the country. So we're
2:13:59
incredibly concerned about this.
2:14:01
Adam Curry: So she can't bring herself to say it. But Kathy
2:14:04
King, who I believe is a doctor, she speaks next
2:14:07
Unknown: I will just echo about Wisconsin, like many states
2:14:14
chocolates, the country has at least a three fold higher rate
2:14:18
of return on mortality, or black women compared to non black
2:14:23
women. And Milwaukee has the highest rate of infant mortality
2:14:29
in in, of any collocation in the state. So it's already a huge
2:14:36
problem. And because there is such a narrow exception to the
2:14:43
law, about for individuals who already have health challenges
2:14:50
that would make their pregnancy higher risks, fall. You know,
2:14:56
there are just going to be so many barriers for them. On to
2:15:00
access abortion, if that's what they choose to do, because they
2:15:06
feel that that is the best option for themselves and the
2:15:09
family that they already have. By them. You know, there is an
2:15:14
estimate with abortion, US lack of abortion access. If roe is
2:15:21
overturned, that it nationwide, we could see a 20% increase in
2:15:27
maternal mortality. These
2:15:30
Adam Curry: evil women are saying that because Roe vs. Wade
2:15:35
was overturned, because less babies will be killed in the
2:15:40
womb. That's why newborn babies are dying at excessive rates.
2:15:49
That's their answer. The Republicans did it. That
2:15:54
pathetic, that's literally what they're saying. Here's the tag
2:15:59
on this. So
2:16:01
Unknown: the risk to people's lives this this varietal and
2:16:08
list the lack of access will inflict harm. It
2:16:13
Adam Curry: will inflict harm with lack of access. It's
2:16:17
unbelievable. That's why the the CEO she couldn't bring herself
2:16:21
to say it to say, well, this is what we've now determined that
2:16:26
evil, Supreme Court evil Republicans evil red states,
2:16:32
because you overturn the right to access to or made it hard for
2:16:37
women to abort their babies abort whatever to me, I don't
2:16:41
want to get to you. No, I don't, not for me to determine. That's
2:16:46
why we have higher infant mortality rate. But let's not
2:16:51
look at COVID vaccinations at all at all at all, or what it's
2:16:55
done to the uterus, uterine SAC and all this stuff. It's
2:16:59
amazing. This is just glossed over. And that's what we're
2:17:04
getting. That's your answer. I'm blown away by these people.
2:17:12
John C Dvorak: Not in a good way. You're shocked. Gambling
2:17:14
going on. I'm
2:17:15
Adam Curry: telling you. I'm shocked. Yes. Just a funny
2:17:19
story. No sooner was the executive order written by Joe
2:17:26
Biden. Genocide Joe, then both the Elon Musk and Sam Altman
2:17:33
release brand new Oh, big new reason, new announcements, this
2:17:36
AI that's going to kill everybody. We have new ones. Do
2:17:40
you see what's what outwood Altman's doing with open AI is
2:17:43
good. We're gonna have an app store. So you can build your own
2:17:48
ai ai that is going to these guys got an executive order
2:17:53
written and we know what's in it. But the way it was sold to
2:17:56
the public was we have we have to have the government involved
2:17:59
with this. We got to put guardrails around it because you
2:18:03
know if you just put this the power of AI into anybody's hand,
2:18:07
not skilled, smartest people on the earth like Elon and Sam, the
2:18:12
it could take over it could eat us. So here's an app store for
2:18:16
your store. You can sell your own AI app. Are you kidding me
2:18:21
now? That's that's unbelievably shallow. And here's a fine
2:18:27
example of the idiots who are using AI and trusting it. A
2:18:32
group of Australian academics has had to unreservedly
2:18:36
apologize for including factually incorrect allegations
2:18:41
about big consulting firms. Professor Emeritus James
2:18:46
Guthrie, Professor in the Department of Accounting and
2:18:49
corporate governance at Macquarie Macquarie University,
2:18:54
admitted to having used Google's Bard to research information for
2:18:59
submission to a parliamentary inquiry into the conduct of the
2:19:02
Big Four consulting firms with numerous false claims being
2:19:06
generated. The AI literally made up fake cases about these
2:19:11
consulting firms and the way I think about consulting firms
2:19:13
scamming the government and and Google barred just created some
2:19:20
some magical cases that never existed. Love it. And this guy
2:19:24
is a Google Scholar, which is even funnier, whatever that
2:19:28
whatever that means. So, no, no, this is not important. It's not
2:19:34
going to eat the world. It'll it'll make some nice Drake
2:19:37
songs. No, it'll, it'll create art that we don't choose.
2:19:44
John C Dvorak: But we've chosen plenty of AI.
2:19:47
Adam Curry: You know what I mean? We tend we tend to if we
2:19:50
can identify it, we tend to move on. It's usually usually the
2:19:54
stuff that's not good as AI generated. There are people who
2:19:56
know what to do. Yeah, you
2:19:57
John C Dvorak: pick the lash. Yeah.
2:20:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're
2:20:01
gonna sit here and argue with me.
2:20:03
John C Dvorak: I just don't want us to be lying to her.
2:20:05
Adam Curry: I'm not lying. I'm not lying. But normally, I would
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say most of the bad stuff is AI generated. A lot of it is,
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John C Dvorak: I think I'm not gonna disagree with that. But
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I'm gonna just say that most of the art is AI generated. Oh,
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really? I think I think the stuff that we're tending to pick
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now is probably this hybrid art this hybrid
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Adam Curry: and would you say that this is a power that is
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going to eat the world
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John C Dvorak: not going to eat the world is going to eat the
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lunch of a lot of artists that are dependent on doing schlock
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art. were unsure or they're going to become the guys who who
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can control the AI? No, it's I think it's a positive thing in
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every way. And I love the idea is generating phony baloney
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reports, I think that's great. If people were gonna rely on
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that destroyed in their faces, phonies. Well,
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Adam Curry: those who are not going to be affected by it is
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the actors.
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Unknown: Hollywood is back and open for business.
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On Friday, the sag AFTRA Board approved the monumental three
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year contract deal with Hollywood studios,
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we began this journey, the largest entertainment union in
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