November 16th, 2023 • 3h 18m
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Unknown: Oh no. Change it. Adam
curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak.
November 16 2023. This is your
award winning nation media
assassination episode 1608. This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: tracking militants
Swifties in broadcasting live
from the heart of the country
here in region number six. Good
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry, and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where the
protesters have shut down the
San Francisco Bay Bridge and
Jesse.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you got a
front seat view then over the
protests are shutting down the
bridge.
John C Dvorak: Oh, and all the
networks are covering in channel
I have to say KTVU. He goes to
them. They have the best covers.
They got to a woman on the
bridge with where they're
arresting all the protesters and
she's there with their camera
crew. And she keeps you then
they have this cordoned off. And
she keeps breaking through the
cordon das
Adam Curry: think and what did I
think? What are they protesting?
Oh, they're protesting
John C Dvorak: is our supportive
Israel.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, beautiful
beauty.
John C Dvorak: I have to
describe these people. Yes,
please.
Adam Curry: Let me guess. Go
ahead. I can already guess that
they're pretty much the same as
the Black Lives Matter, people,
LGBTQ queers for Palestine,
except they have Kippy as arm
they have the scarfs.
John C Dvorak: A few of them do
have the scarves, but half of
them are masked up. Oh, what
makes it even funnier? I'm
sorry. Windy bridge, and it's
probably the most ventilated
place in the world. And there
they are masked up. And I would
say it's about at least half of
the trans queers for Palestine
people there. Yes. And then
there's about a third black. And
there's some other ethics in
there, but it didn't stop.
Alright.
Adam Curry: Now here's the
question because I've been
tracking this at this at this
moment. As of this past week.
Every single protest, every
single one is organized by a
political party. Every single
one and really only one
political party, but that
that'll be obvious. Are there
any professional signs in the
group?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're all
the signs are professional, but
mostly, it's just a big banner
that they were using. And they
they busted him up pretty
quickly. But unfortunately, what
they've done is they they drove
a bunch of I don't know, maybe
50 cars under the bridge blocked
all the lanes. And then in their
wise, futuristic vision of the
world. They threw their car keys
into the water.
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness
gracious, no way their own way
their own car keys. Yeah. So
their cars are now stuck on the
bridge and they can't move?
John C Dvorak: Well, they're no
they're pulling them off one by
one and they've got most of them
off now. And I get this started
I think at eight in the morning
still block is the bridge is
still closed. And it's it's
actually quite humorous. If
you're not on the bridge, if you
Adam Curry: don't have to get
into the into work. Well, then
then let me jump into this for a
second. I've been doing a bit of
research, looking at the pollute
at the signs, there was a lot
going on in DC. And when you're
protesting in Washington, DC,
it's always politically
motivated. But it was I mean, it
was there was just so much
bizarre stuff it kind of like
makes your your brain just fries
over and over again with which
people are saying what I mean,
we had two groups of Jews, the
Pro and anti Zionist yelling at
each other. And it was so it was
Jews versus Jews but you had the
Hasidic Jews You know the ones
with the curly Q's and the and
the strings and the hats and
they're all anti Israel which
like well I didn't expect that
I'm just just just listen a
little bit to the language that
they're using against each other
literally with the cops in the
middle
these are these are the these
are the cynic dudes with you
know with their with their
megaphone, like over my little
lesson in protesting.
John C Dvorak: You know, in this
city Jews who are welcomed into
Israel being Jewish anymore have
settled there. Nobody's ever
liked him but they they've
settled there and refused to do
IDF service and refused to do
this or refused to do that. And
they've always been outliers in
the country itself. I really are
a fringe group that It is, I
don't know how they I'm sure
that Israeli Jews normal ones
are beside themselves with these
people.
Adam Curry: Well, let's let's go
back to the to the this was in
front of the Capitol there was
the Jews for ceasefire, also
known as rabbis for ceasefire.
Interestingly, now, every single
one of these videos always has a
shot of a professional sign,
which also has the URL of who
has organized this particular
this particular demonstration.
This was a peaceful one. This is
rabbis for ceasefire, and all
the rabbis are female rabbis.
Unknown: Our demands are a
ceasefire. Now, de escalation is
now in full negotiated release
of all hostages. Now, Prime
Minister Netanyahu only looks to
Torah, it feels like to justify
violence and to justify his own
racist and legally sadistic
intention. So as a rabbi, it's
very upsetting to me.
If they're watching, I want them
to know that I and many other
people care about you. You are
important. Your lives matter.
And we have not forgotten you.
Every life is precious, and
every death is a tragedy,
Israeli and Palestinian. So
Adam Curry: that must be a
controversial group, I would say
to have female rabbis and they
all have those cute little mini
hats on. You know what I mean?
Like it's like with an elastic
band. It's a very teeny little
mini hat. I know it's probably
not hat but it looks like it so
they hold up a sign and that
comes by on this report and it's
the answer colada yarmulke
John C Dvorak: is a no no no,
it's
Adam Curry: like a little little
top hat.
John C Dvorak: A hat a little
toe. I know what you mean. Box
egg a little bitty mini I'm sure
the me hat I'm
Adam Curry: sure I will be
corrected about the mini hat
assertion. So the sign says that
this is rabbis for ceasefire
Jews for ceasefire by the answer
coalition. Answer. World's
Workers Party well so I go in
answer coalition founded just
three days after September
11 2001 attacks answer which is
an acronym for act now to stop
war and end racism initiated the
massive us anti war movement
opposing US invasion of Iraq in
the months prior to March
19 2003. But But answer
coalition is not its own 501 C
three, if you donate to them, in
fact, you are donating to the
progress unity Fund, which you
should know because the progress
unity fund is its headquarters
is in San Francisco. And it is
the goal of the Progress unity
fund to promote unity through
diversity of people's respect
for their histories, cultures
and experiences. With this
respect, a sense of solidarity
and community can be fostered
between peoples and this is run
by Susan mizen Berg am you why
Sen. Be ERG, who writes many
articles for liberation news A
so just a couple of headlines.
Santa Clara Hyatt Regency
workers fight to unionize
janitor take on high tech firms.
ACLU charges San Jose company
with aiding and abetting
torture. So she's pretty
politically involved. In fact,
she is the head honcho of the
Peace and Freedom Party. And if
you go to peace and freedom.us
right there on the homepage, a
picture of Karl Karl Marx. And
the Peace and Freedom Party is
committed to socialism,
democracy, ecology, feminism and
racial equality. We represent
the working class those without
capital in a capitalist society.
This is a political
organization. And all they want
just like every other socialist
organization, name, Marxist
organization, all they want is
for you to vote out anyone who's
not a socialist. And I think
most people who are jumping into
this don't even realize how
they're being abused for
political means by the
socialists and Marxists of the
world in the United Kingdom.
Here's socialist workers.org
Unknown: They've given the green
light to these an extremist
Israeli Government to commit
genocide in Gaza and extend
their cool policies in the West
Bank
Well, we humans are all the same
but the fact that some people
are considered you know, not on
the same level as other people
what kind of world are we go in
towards man I don't want to be
known for that's why I'm here
today.
Every single MBA in this country
Who doesn't vote for a ceasefire
needs to be regarded as
completely unacceptable from now
on. They these are people that
we need to organize against, to
make sure that they don't hold
these kinds of offices again.
They are going to be on the
wrong side of history. And we
will make sure that their
children or grandchildren that
they have in the future will
know what their grandparents
did, that they were part of
something that was horrendous.
We haven't been doing anything.
So only sound the heat of the
man is ceasefires least that we
can do and hopefully they can
hear our voices and do something
about it. I can't wait to see
what MPs say then about what
they did for Palestine if they
protested for Palestine and what
they did when Palestine was
under apartheid.
Adam Curry: people's emotions
are being played upon it is
being done by political party
and the European Parliament is
of course not immune to this. We
have our favorite Irish
socialists, Claire Daly and that
Wallace fellow with the with the
wild gray hair. They they took a
page out of the best play book,
let's throw some children in
there
Unknown: are some Palestinians
living in Belgium who have lost
incredible numbers of their
families back home and
Palestine. And we're going to
listen to their words. Today
is a question for the EU. How
many policies need to die for
the EU to call for a ceasefire
until a few days ago, I had lost
52 Cyber Grievers every day that
our gross adult is already at
least 55 Yesterday, the Israeli
occupation forces committed
massacre and Jabalia camp near
my my family's house and I can't
know anything about them I came
today and I don't know anything
about them. I fall asleep
thinking about those images
there is no food there's no
water my mom said to me We wish
to die because she can't see my
my brother's angry and she can't
make anything for them. You must
stop the war against Gaza it's
enough with killing children
enough with killing innocent
children freely
is such a difficult moment as we
have people here who have to
expose their personal grief to
share the memories of their
loved ones who are no more you
all know what it's like to lose
one family member maybe in a
natural death but to have your
entire family wiped out in the
genocide list assault for the
civilized world stands by in
silence There
Adam Curry: you go way to use
some children get some nine year
olds on that stage. You know
what, let's go back to the UK
let's let's have the son who
apparently now do video reports.
Let's have them up it up a
little bit. But let's let's make
this against the Hamas guys. We
got to counterbalance this.
Bring in the incubators.
Unknown: Good morning from
Jerusalem. This is day 38 of
Israel's war with Hamas on a
morning where there are serious
concerns for 36 newborn babies
born inside the Al Shifa
Hospital in Gaza City. The Al
Shifa is galss largest hospital,
but at the moment it is not
functioning because it has no
power. And without power, it
cannot operate the generators.
The generators therefore cannot
operate the incubators, which
are providing life saving oxygen
to these very, very small
babies. The Israeli Defense
Force have described the
situation as Jaya, they agreed
having spoken to the hospital
that they would leave 300 liters
of fuel at an agreed drop off
point. But in a devastating
twist, mas have blocked doctors
from the hospital from
collecting fuel, so that they
can then start providing the
electricity, the energy that
they so desperately need to keep
these babies alive. For the time
being they are being swaddled in
a cardiac room, but time is of
the essence. And it is certainly
running out an
Adam Curry: excellent twist on
an original, very nice way to
move to switch a roo they're
like good rewrite. It's a great
rewrite. Now. Of course we have
to do something in France
because we got way too many
Muslims there. We have the
French we know that they hate
the Jews. So Israel needs to go
in and we need to show them our
new faces of death video. Yes.
The 43 minutes that was shown to
the world press in Israel has
now being shown to politicians.
Unknown: Some MPs left the
screening in shock in tears
struggling to cope with the 43
minutes of footage showing
killings of children and women
by Hamas terrorists on October
7. The screening was organized
by France Israel friendship
group. In one of the rooms on
the National Assembly. They say
they wanted to show the truth
and that they also wanted to
prevent the spread of conspiracy
theories. The president of this
France Israel friendship group
is Matula, fellow member of
President maximas Renaissance
movement. Let's take a listen to
him after the screening.
It was extremely difficult. I'm
sorry, our hearts are heavy.
After the screening of the
other, it's an attack on our
humanity, all of humanity that
we witnessed in that screening
room. I think it was very
difficult for the very necessary
in the face of those who would
try to relativize what happened
with us as well as the risk of
forgetting what happened.
MPs are shocked by what they
saw, but they don't all agree on
how France should act and deal
with this ongoing war in the
Middle East. Far right and right
wing MPs we said that Hamas
terrorists was simply barbarians
who needed to be exterminated
barbarian means they fully
support the way Israel is
currently conducting its
military operations. On the
other hand, we spoke to a far
left MP who condemned the Hamas
attack was shocked by the
brutality of what they saw. But
who said that at the same time
Israel cannot continue acting
the way is killing civilians in
the Gaza Strip where it's
bombardments so
Adam Curry: before I take a
breath one more clip here
because the problem now is for
the mainstream media, they all
have to pick a side you've got
to pick your side you've got to
pick it very very carefully. And
by the way notice how the New
York Times will say this many
Israelis died but this many
Palestinians were killed me as
all these very subtle things
that are taking place how do we
choose our words because it's
about to get ugly. This is
another group in DC I believe
this to be a true grassroots
organization the lady with the
megaphone was speaking Arabic
there's a lot of auto Akbar's
going on and listen to what they
say about politicians and in
particular the mainstream media
Unknown: The truth is a lie to
the members of Congress will be
prosecuted
St Joseph trial
media outlets
Adam Curry: so, yes, M five M
those those kids who you
encouraged they're going to turn
on you what
John C Dvorak: makes you think
that was grassroots that woman
sound like a pro?
Adam Curry: What I mean is I
don't think that was a that was
in my mind. Not necessarily.
There were no professional
signs. This was the handmade
genocide job crowd, which is
still the same people. But this
let me put it this way. It's not
a Socialist Party who was
running this one. It's a
different party and I think
that's the scariest one was I
don't know I don't know who this
lady was an absolute Pro. But
there's this was a this was a
vicious group out for blood out
for blood. I'm telling you.
Genocide, Joe signs handmade.
John C Dvorak: I like to
genocide justice. I would love
to get a hold of it. There's
Adam Curry: no There's no
official printed ones. That's
the thing. There's no official
agenda, couple
John C Dvorak: of protests and
there'll be a sign maker nearby
a guy or a girl doing these
signs. They have the same hand.
They're not they're not a
printed sign. I agree. But that
doesn't mean it's not organized.
Adam Curry: I looked all over. I
could not find any political
party that was connected to this
particular group. This group is
a little freaky. Have you Have
you followed the Tiktok sigh up,
though.
John C Dvorak: Know the chicken.
Everyone's complaining about it.
Have
Adam Curry: you heard about it
the letter from the letter to
America?
John C Dvorak: Which one? Ah,
Adam Curry: so the story goes
like this. Osama bin Laden?
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, that
died. No, I'm very familiar with
this. Now it's all been taken
down. Osama bin
Adam Curry: Laden wrote a letter
to the American people which was
published. And
John C Dvorak: we're supposed to
believe in 2009.
Adam Curry: Which, as far as
we're concerned, Osama bin Laden
died way before them. It's a
handwritten scribbled note. And
this is being you and The
Guardian had published it. And
they took it down.
John C Dvorak: Oh, everybody
took it down. It was also here
and it was here and it was
there. And it was there. And it
was here and it was here. And
here's my favorite. I'm looking
at this one, one tweet about
this. And it's hit zero and
that's taken down and taken
down, taken out taken down. But
luckily, I saved a copy here and
you click on that it's gone.
Bull crap.
Adam Curry: But the the SIOP on
tick tock is, is super viral.
And it all comes I mean, and if
even if you read it, it's just
like, okay, whatever it does end
with, continue the war, if you
will, justice is the strongest
army security is the best way of
life, but it slipped out of your
grasp the day you made the Jews
victorious, and occupying our
land and killing our brothers in
Palestine, the path to security
is for you to lift your
oppression from us. So well,
let's just say right off the
bat, you and I do not believe
this is anything remotely real.
without
John C Dvorak: even asking me
you're making assumptions you
assume my pronouns?
Adam Curry: I sure do. Zamzar.
But the this is a professionally
orchestrated viral campaign. And
it's pretty much all BLM LGBTQ
women, and they have a script.
And stop me when you've heard
enough this morning. Wait,
John C Dvorak: wait, I want to
say this. There's always two
sides to this. There's the
people who put this together,
and the suckers who fell for it.
Oh, so I'm just I'm just
pointing the finger at
Adam Curry: people I'm going to
I'm going to tell you that. I'm
going to tell you that. They're
all falling for it. I mean, this
is so well done. And listen to
the script. When you when you
hear the script, you'll be like,
Okay, this is working. This is
class act top foreign
propaganda. This morning,
Unknown: I read a letter to
America, which is Osama bin
Laden's letter to America,
explaining why he attacked
Americans. And I am ashamed to
say that I not only have never
read this letter, but I didn't
even know this letter existed.
It's wild, and everyone should
read it. If you haven't read it
yet read it. However, be
forewarned that this has left me
very disillusioned. And I feel
the same exact way I felt when I
was deconstructing Christianity.
I feel a little bit just
confused. Like I have entered
into another timeline. What is
this? And yeah, so go read this.
These
Adam Curry: are these are these
are filtered good looking young
women. But you know, we've seen
them. These are the ones who are
John C Dvorak: there. No, but
this is just a nobody of some
sort. Yeah, right. I mean, it's
not a brand name. No,
Adam Curry: no, no, none of
these are brand name. No, these
are these have been cast. These
these actors have been cast and
and listen to the script over
and over again. And
Unknown: yeah, so
go read it. So I just read a
letter to America. And I will
never look at life the same I
will never look at.
Adam Curry: Wow, very ready.
John C Dvorak: Within two of
these, it's so obvious that this
trip did. And so you asked me
when I wanted to cut it off.
Under some circumstances, I
shouldn't say now because it's
obvious what's going on. But I
want to hear for these this
Unknown: country the same, I
will never please read it. And
if you have read it, let me know
if you are also going through an
existential crisis in this very
moment. Because in the last 20
minutes, my entire viewpoint on
the entire life I have believed
and I have lived has changed.
Please read that entire letter.
I need everyone to stop what
they're doing right now and go
read. It's literally two pages.
Go read a letter to America. And
please come back here and just
let me know what you think
Adam Curry: this is consistent.
Come back and tell me what you
think that's what they all say.
Come back and tell me what you
think. Go read it now. Stop what
you're doing. Come back and tell
me what you think. It's
Unknown: like, I'm going through
like an existential crisis right
now, of course, and a lot of
people are. So I just need
someone else to be feeling this
too. I
need you to stop what you're
doing and go read a letter to
America. It is literally the
craziest thing I've read in a
while. And while I can't say
that, I'm that surprised? I am
pretty shocked. So go read it
and tell me what you think.
Because I really also need to
talk to other people about this.
So this is fucking
insane. I just read Osama bin
Laden letter to America, which I
will be going through right
here. But it's actually so mind
fucking to me that terrorism has
been sold as this idea to the
American people. And honestly,
just so many Western inhabitants
within certain nations, that
this group of people, this
random group of people just
suddenly wakes up one day and
just fucking hates you just
wants you dead wants you gone.
And this is all because they
believe that they're better than
like, that is the root of
terrorism. It doesn't make
sense. They just hate your
fucking nation. But reading this
letter, it becomes apparent to
me that the actions of 911 and
those acts committed against the
USA and its people. Were all
just the build up of our
government failing other nations
and majority of these
situations, and this letter was
insanely eye opening. I really
urge everybody to Google and
read it because I
John C Dvorak: started out every
single bug by the way, a couple
of things is overnight sensation
of the letter itself is of
course a joke, of course. But is
there any membranes of these
terrorists going back in time a
little bit? It makes it sound
like it just started yesterday.
Does anyone remember from the
60s the jackal, or the Lockerbie
shot shoot down of the PEN
American Airlines who put the
company out of business? Things
that took place in this in the
50s 60s 70s are the series of
airline hijacks had made him
drive the planes to Cuba. Does
anybody remember any of that?
No, no, no. This all started
last night? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes, it's insane.
I'm living through an
existential crisis right now.
This is very IKEA, like, this is
very slick. This is well done.
And they're all going to fall
for it. The end and good luck,
politicians. Good luck to you.
John C Dvorak: Well, here's this
couple of things come to mind.
First of all, I want to go back
to the earlier clips you play
before you got to this tangent,
which was about the ceasefire
complaints and protests. Where's
they asking for the ceasefire in
the Ukraine war? What's wrong?
Where's the protests about the
Ukraine war? Nothing? How about
involved? That's the deal.
Adam Curry: Well, it because it
is jus hate because the Lansky
has literally gotten rid of the
Jews.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he's
supposedly Jewish. With a no
ever gay
Adam Curry: with a soft brigade.
Yeah, of course. Yeah. Of
course. It's good. So, so just
so how insane this has gotten
and this is the word of the day.
It's insane. Man. You know,
John C Dvorak: this was somebody
wrote in Yes. LA's to look for I
haven't heard it while you just
heard it from me.
Adam Curry: So you know, that
somehow I got on the San
Francisco grassroots campaign
mailing list for Robert Kennedy
Jr. Oh, good. And, you know, so
I'm getting stuff all the time.
And it's like, yeah, we're gonna
have
John C Dvorak: a frequency too
high.
Adam Curry: No, it's about one a
week. One A Well, that's not
bad. No, no, not bad at all. And
you know, I've never responded.
But at one point, they're even
saying, hey, curry, and this
other person calling out a
couple people on the list. Join
us. And we haven't heard from
me. I'm like, I'm being quiet
over here. So now I get an email
from from the local grassroots
Kennedy campaign. And that's a
locals. The one the same one San
Francisco.
John C Dvorak: San Francisco.
No, no, no, no, the same one.
Adam Curry: I am not absurd. He
is calling us absurd. If we know
the other story, after spending
$1,000 of my own money, and
countless hours on this
campaign. The truth I heard
about six months ago has come
out in an ugly way. I have known
for 30 years about the
conditions of Palestine. It's a
created state that made us and
Britain that first vaccinated
their population for Big Pharma.
I will actively work against Mr.
Kennedy and no longer support
had. And it has a link. I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry. Well, let
me die. And I misinterpreted
what you just said. I thought
this letter came from the
Kennedy campaign this woman has
turned but she also the Kennedy
okay. She has the Kennedy
campaign woman that was running.
What was the Kennedy campaign?
There was a person in charge and
the book maybe or maybe not
affiliated with Kennedy, and out
of the blue. She, after she's
got her mailing list built up?
Yes, she turned on Kennedy.
Adam Curry: And it's because of
his appearance on the Cuomo kid
show. And she links to the video
which I shall play a clip of. So
you can hear what outraged her
so much. I mean, I think that
there's there's just a tsunami
of misinformation and kind of
moral bankruptcy that we're
seeing on the college campuses
about this issue. And you know,
the idea that Israel is a is an
apartheid state because of the
Jewish state. Israel is the only
nation in the region that does
not have an official religion.
All the other surrounding
nations are Muslim, there's 40
nations in the world 42 that
have official religions. There
is not in Israel, Israel is a
free nation, it's a democracy.
Palestinians in Israel can vote
they can hold political office,
even the Prime Minister and the
President of Israel, if they if
they if they win that vote, they
hold positions on the judiciary,
every court, including the
Supreme Court, they serve in the
Knesset. A couple of years ago,
a Palestinian judge and Arab
judge convicted the Prime
Minister of Israel for
corruption. Israel has freedom
for in Gaza. It is you get the
death penalty for selling land
to which you there are no Jews
and in Gaza. Oh, you you look at
this, this double standard that
is being now applied to Israel's
behavior compared to the
behavior of all the countries
around it. There's no other
country that is a democracy in
the region. There's no other if
you're a Palestinian, and you
want to criticize your
government, you better do it in
Israel. Because if you do it in
the West Bank, if you do it in
Gaza, if you do it in Jordan, if
you do it in Syria, if you do it
in Lebanon, you're gonna either
have your throat slit, or you're
gonna go to jail and be
tortured. Oh, and you know, the
freedom that people have. So
calling Israel an apartheid
state is such a, an absurd twist
and perverted twist. And
ultimately, you know, if you're
applying a double standard, it
is it reflects a bias and you'd
have call that bias anti
semitism. It's faint. This is
such an upheaval for the
political landscape. It's
phenomenal. What's happening,
people there. Go ahead, up up.
But people
John C Dvorak: say that what
you're witnessing with that, I'm
glad you got that emailing list.
Yes, that is part of the op. The
part of the app is being
outraged that is Kennedy being
so damn reasonable. As part of
an OP.
Adam Curry: You know what I love
on Twitter right now at this
funny because we were just
talking about Candace Owens
about her being really too smart
for this dumb organization.
Well, now she and Ben Shapiro
have successfully made the
Middle East conflict about
themselves. This is this is
fantastic. Oh, I better go on
Tucker and talk about me me me
me me me. quoting Bible
scripture at each other on x.
John C Dvorak: I was very dead.
That I watched that. Of course,
course. And I didn't get any
clips here. We cannot for one
thing Candace is huge. I don't
know how much coffee she's
drinking for a pregnant woman
but she person be talking is
there with Shapiro's
Adam Curry: now, yeah, well,
that's it's a million.
John C Dvorak: million. So yeah.
And so she's going on about one
thing or another he Tucker he
can get a word in edgewise. But,
but Roger Roundy, one of our
great artists of the United
States, who's in the social he's
going on about how what a great
interview this is. It's not even
an interview. No, it's just
letting someone go off. How
about how great and I think that
this feud is bull crap. If Dave
is not one of those phony
baloney fuses show business
feud, you know, where people get
into a fake Leah's
Adam Curry: show business feud.
And she's been picking fights
with Megyn Kelly, and it's this
about them. This is narcissism,
narcissism. Um,
John C Dvorak: you know, I'm a
little sick of the usual
suspects, and that includes
Tucker. It includes her. It now
includes Jordan Peterson Hold
on. Mr. Crowder, and includes
Tim Poole, it and I would have
to Rogan is I don't think he's
an unwitting member of this of
this clique. But they're all in
so they all promote each other.
It's like a little blow job log
rolling thing.
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard about
a log role in a long time, but a
blow job log roll that is a new
one. We should make that will
make
John C Dvorak: generally
referred to as a blow job. This
is just a term. It's nothing to
do with the app. The sexual act
but it's of course the Jefferson
when you write up somebody in a
very you know this guy's the
best yeah well
Adam Curry: there's one more we
can add to the to the mix of
choosing sides to save his hides
Jimmy Dore Jimmy Dore now he
he's in a, is he Jewish I think
is probably Jewish, isn't he?
Maybe I look him up. Well, he
has the to live Jew crew because
he's Jewish. He's always
probably has his Jewish friends.
So he does a very interesting
thing. And it caught my
attention because I really
didn't know much about the Grand
Mufti during the Second World
War. Who was the grand mufti of
Palestine
John C Dvorak: years ago? Who's
calling the shots at the time?
Well, the hat. So
Adam Curry: he pulls out a clip
from Netanyahu from eight years
ago, doesn't really say it was
really, really old. And in fact,
Netanyahu sounds the same. And
here's how he rolled it out on
his show and discuss it with his
two life Jew crew.
Unknown: Here's the video I was
talking about. Listen, to listen
to what Benjamin Netanyahu had
to say about Hitler. And the
Arabs and the Jews.
Want to exterminate the Jews at
the time you want to be said
Hitler didn't want to
exterminate the Jews at the
time. So yeah, blaming. blamed
it on that. Oh, wow. Wow, wow.
What can I play? I wouldn't play
it again. Because that's that's
just as somebody
who wants to exterminate the
Jews at the time, he wanted to
expel the Jews. Who said he went
to if you expel them the wall
come here. So what should I do
with them?
Burn them. So let me bring in my
two live ducru that I have on
today. What do you have to say
that is that that's kind of a
head snapper, right?
It takes a lot to shock me at
this point, I actually stopped.
Because yes, that in Yahoo is a
fascist. But if there was a
third rail or a presumed third
rail, in Jewish politics, it
would be in any way to soften
the rough edges of aid off
frickin Hitler.
Adam Curry: So I go first of
all, I've never really learned
much about the the grandmas.
John C Dvorak: Yes, first of
all, Jimmy Dore is a Catholic.
Yes, yes. Yeah. The
Adam Curry: whole room told me
that yes. And the Grand Mufti
was the grand mufti of Jerusalem
Palestine now so I go back I
right away find a report from
eight years ago. i i 24 is the
station and here's a little
deeper analysis of what not yet
and Yahoo said and what he then
retracted and more about this
harsh I mean, I'll Hussaini
Unknown: Israel's Prime Minister
likely set created a firestorm
yesterday by suggesting that
former Jerusalem move to Hajj
Amin al Husseini, and not Hitler
was responsible for the murder
of 6 million Jews during the
Holocaust and our houses
backtracked, saying that he did
not absolve the Nazi regime of
its crimes. I've been for years
correspondent Amon six UK has a
story. Bibi
absolves Hitler for the
Holocaust. So reads the title of
the lead story on The Daily
Beast today. Following the
Israeli Prime Minister's
controversial comment. Hitler
didn't
want to exterminate the Jews at
the time he wanted to expel the
Jews.
Netanyahu said it was the former
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem has a
menial Hosseini who encouraged
Nazi dictator to kill Europe's
Jews
Kajima Hussaini went on and
said, If you expel them, they'll
all come here. So what should I
do with them? Yes, you said
reactions were quick to come in
from all parties involved.
Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas said that Netanyahu was
comments exonerate Hitler, while
blaming the Mufti for genocide,
and accuse the Israeli leader of
fabricating history. And the
German government also denounced
Netanyahu statement assuming
full responsibility for the
Jewish Holocaust. But did the
Israeli Prime Minister get his
facts wrong? Not quite. In
November 1941, at the Mufti met
with Adolf Hitler in Germany.
Adler told us they need that the
Nazi regime supported the
Palestinian cause, and rejected
the idea of a Jewish national
home. Whether al Husseini
directly asked for the
extermination of Europe's Jews
is unknown. But just four years
later, in 1945, Yugoslavia
sought to indict the Mufti as a
war criminal for his role in
recruiting 20,000 Muslim
volunteers for the SS who
participated in the killing of
Jews in Croatia and Hungary. But
the Mufti fled to Cairo and
later to be root and passed away
in 1974.
Adam Curry: So this grand mufti
wasn't without fault. He I think
he did. Batum say the part that
he added support for the final
solution. But this was all
fleshed out eight years ago and
this was a this was a world
renowned event that took place
and it's kind of crappy that
Jimmy Dore feels he has to be
has to do this. Based upon I
guess his audience. Look, our
audience is running away.
Because we won't take aside
we're not we don't like war.
here's the here's the latest,
the latest email,
John C Dvorak: we do the newest
deconstruction. Here's
Adam Curry: Dr. John Allen. I'm
glad I never contributed to your
podcast after you.
John C Dvorak: Douche bag from
the get go, self admitted. And
now he quits.
Adam Curry: I'm glad I never
contributed to your podcast
after your lack of outrage over
XyO terrorism. Keep begging from
those producer morons for your
donations. I know that you think
people are taking sides. But in
his time, it has always been
Zionists versus humans. Dr.
John, watch
John C Dvorak: his versus human,
Adam Curry: right. Yes, that's
John C Dvorak: right. That's
right, that we put Yes, I
indecisive
Adam Curry: shyness versus
humans. It's always been Zinus
versus humans, even during the
Ottoman Empire. It's always been
zydus versus humans. It's
politics. It's evil. That's
John C Dvorak: very corrupting.
Adam Curry: And it's yes and and
and everybody
John C Dvorak: has shame
somebody has to get get
themselves as you like to put in
I think is a great term all spun
on up. overselling is pretty
much on the other side of the
globe. It's a big globe. And
meanwhile,
Adam Curry: you know, we have we
have people sleeping on our
streets who have been told it'd
be great here. And then they get
to the cities that said, Yeah,
we welcome you and they're like,
I'm sleeping the call Get out of
my Get out of my Get off my
lawn.
John C Dvorak: It's we don't
even know what happened to the
homeless in San Francisco. Yeah,
that
Adam Curry: would be cool to
know, because it's just I mean,
it was so fascinating to hear.
What's his face? Your Mayor,
your governor, mayor, governor,
John C Dvorak: Governor Newsom,
the mayor. Yeah, Governor,
London,
Adam Curry: the governor to say,
Yeah, we just cleaned him up.
Unknown: I know, folks say, Oh,
they're just cleaning up this
place, because all those fancy
leaders are coming into town.
That's true. Because it's true.
It's true. But it's also true.
For months and months and months
prior to APEC. We've been having
different conversations.
Adam Curry: It's true.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we've had
different conversations. And
it's true. So we talked about
whether we should just
exterminate them, or we hope
maybe they'll just die of
fentanyl overdoses on their
road. And then they had that's
one of the conversations the
other one was how well this is
washed them out of town. I think
they bussed them to LA. It,
wouldn't we How about this?
You're homeless? Yeah. And
somebody comes up, he says, you
know, we're we have to clean up
the city. We have to clean up
the city because we just have to
clean up the city. We're
offering you a bus ticket. And
let me show you the weather.
It's gonna be stormy grey, or
it's gonna be terrible, by the
way it hasn't rained at all, is
washed off the whole weeks going
to rain, rain, rain, global
climate change will send you
down where it's warmer in Los
Angeles. It's beautiful programs
for you. There's all kinds of
things you can stream.
bumfights, the whole thing in
LA, and LA is much more
hospitable than we are. And we
right now you get to go
someplace. So you want the bus
ticket or not.
Adam Curry: I they probably gave
him first class airfare. I'm not
even sure it was a bus ticket. i
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe. But
they somehow got him out of
town.
Adam Curry: The bottom line is
from the public intellectuals,
to the alternative media, to
political parties. This whole
thing is being abused. And with
it abusing Israelis,
Palestinians, white people,
brown people, children,
incubator babies, abusing all of
it for their own selfish mean
John C Dvorak: commuters.
Commuters poor, hapless commuter
Adam Curry: that they just want
to. It's a beautiful thing. It's
this is the thing that's being
used. It was what happened to
LGBTQ genocide, that genocides
gone. What happened to the Black
Lives Matter genocide, but that
genocides gone What happened to
the genocide of Ukraine? That
one's gone. It's so damning.
It's so bad with with Ukraine
that listen to this. As the
Lensky is begging for more ammo,
he's begging for ammo, and then
listen to what the European The
European Union is now
responsible for the ammo. But
it's very telling what they say
in the short report.
Unknown: But I see that Russia
is already losing soldiers and
equipment and of leave faster
and on the larger scale than
withstanding their pressure is
extremely difficult not to beat.
More Russian forces are
destroyed and you're ready for
the worst the overall situation
will be for the enemy. For the
rest of the war,
Ukrainian officials continue to
press their Western allies for
aid and weapons to counter
Russia's aggression. The EU's
defense ministers reaffirmed
their support for Kyiv at a
meeting in Brussels that warned
that the block could miss its
goal of supplying Ukraine with a
million artillery shells by next
March
mean that we already have 1
million shots ready by March. So
maybe we will not have 1 million
by March, by the way will depend
on how quickly the oldest comes
to the industry and how quickly
the industry reacts.
Adam Curry: So that's the EU
defense minister literally
saying, Hey, man, we don't have
any orders yet. The defense
industry needs orders. You know,
like invoices, signed payments
made. You don't pay us. We don't
care about you. Zelinsky because
no one wants to fund it anymore.
They're tired of it. No one
wants to pony up
John C Dvorak: the evidence
still we still have this this
need to get rid of spent
uranium.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, there's
always something but he's he's
just saying hey, we need to
orders orders. We need orders
now orders now. Orders.
John C Dvorak: I have one
Ukraine report most will play.
Sure. This is interesting
because the Ukrainians now claim
that they're making inroads on
retaking This is just like
highroller they're not doing any
What about the dumb bass or any
of these? No, no, no, you're
going after Crimea, which is
really far as I can really,
which is off limits? Yeah, I
suppose. But let's hear
Unknown: it. And Ukraine
officials and Kyiv now say
Ukrainian forces have
established a critical beachhead
in a bid to retake Russian held
Crimea. They report troops had
crossed the nipro River near
Harrison and gained a foothold.
From there they could outflank
Russian forces to the east
Alenia from
the frontline is fairly fluid as
of today, and we cannot discuss
every single measure our defense
forces are undertaking, but the
fact is obvious that these
measures push the enemy back.
For now. We will not give more
details so that our plan can
start working, which would allow
us to report later on great
successes.
Russian officials acknowledged
Ukrainians have crossed the
river but insisted they're
taking heavy casualties. You
know,
Adam Curry: the it's getting so
bad with this the lies that are
just falling apart before our
very eyes. That is fire gas that
the the international what is
their name? The international
coalition of investigative
journalists do you remember this
outfit? Probably not.
John C Dvorak: I probably not.
Well,
Adam Curry: they're they're
supported by a deciem
foundation, Arnold ventures bae
and Paul foundations Bertha
foundation CJF American donor
fund Creative Europe, the Fred
Foundation, the Golden Globe
Foundation, the John and
Florence Doman Foundation, the
Open Society Foundations,
national democracy or National
Endowment for Democracy. They
now are funding or they have
always been funding this group,
and they're going after
journalists. And there's the
German Seymour Hersh and he's
just one and they're going after
him now and they're gonna go
after a lot more journalists
because you know, they're not
funded by National Endowment for
Democracy or open society,
Unknown: a leading German
journalist is facing allegations
of being in the pay of the
Kremlin, according to new
revelations by the International
Consortium of Investigative
Journalists disciple has long
been regarded in Germany as an
Independent Expert on Russia.
Nina, what more can you tell us
about Hoover disciple and the
allegations he's facing?
Luba disciple is very well known
here in Germany is an
influential voice has won awards
for his reporting has been
introduced to talk shows as the
German journalist with the best
access to Vladimir Putin has had
to sit down interviews with him,
etc. But there is an
investigative group of
journalists called Cyprus
confidential who are currently
looking into a big batch of
documents that they've got,
where there are where there is
evidence that Russian oligarchs
are trying to take influence on
influential European voices here
and they have found documents
that prove that for a book Sid
zipper wrote about Putin he
received two payments from a
company linked to Alexei
mordashov. Now, of course, an
oligarch who is very close to
Putin. And since Russia's
invasion of Ukraine, he's on the
EU sanctions list. So as I build
got 200,000 euros, and then
another 400,000 euros as part of
his sponsorship deal for the
book. And what's very, very
tricky here is that the
publisher of the book says that
they had not been aware of such
a deal. And they have now sold
disciples book argues there was
no influence by third parties
regarding the content of his
book. But he's also produced
films for public broadcaster
ARD, and ARD also say that they
were not aware of any such
sponsorship deals. So they will
have seriously undermined his
own journalistic credibility.
And this is probably not the
last case that we're going to be
seeing, because these
investigative journalists are
continuing digging. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I have a
couple of comments here. First
of all, these pre sale deals
with publishers is not uncommon.
But in fact, it's how you sell a
lot of books
Adam Curry: is how you get on
the list is that you get
John C Dvorak: this book, well,
we don't feel like publishing
your book, or we don't see any
market for it, is what the
publisher will say, and then you
come back with what we've
already pre sold. And you can
even name or not name doesn't
usually you tell it who it is,
this guy has already contributed
$200,000, whatever the amount is
to buy this many copies of the
book. So you have pre sales,
immediate pre sales, that means
the publisher go ahead and
publish the book because they
can, it'll be it'll pay out.
Very common practice I, I've
seen it happened in America
everywhere, but it happens all
the time. In fact, my favorite
is to go into a small stale
Adam Curry: Oh, we love small
tails, but it might be the man
Damn it
John C Dvorak: with with Hearst.
Adam Curry: You gotta get on.
When I was at MIT, you got to do
it. Right. I
John C Dvorak: was at MIT with
the Hearst Corporation and going
through the Media Lab, and I
didn't have to because I was
with them as a fly on the wall.
I didn't have to sign any NDAs
which everyone else all
journalists have to sign all
these NDAs you can't talk about
anything by so your
Adam Curry: people you're going
fast viewer with her
John C Dvorak: the Hearst does
it will her as well. He brought
me along at
Adam Curry: MIT and you're just
hanging out and you're you're
witnessing what's going on? Yes.
John C Dvorak: Okay. I'm
watching and going through the
Media Lab. I got a good tour.
And so we go up there. And at
the end, Negroponte II is
talking about how they have done
a deal with Stuart Brand to do a
media lab book. And you can look
it up on Amazon, you'll see it
Media Lab where the future's
invented or someplace. And yes,
so we've already bought 50,000
copies as an advantage. That was
how the book was sold. It was
the MIT had purchased 50,000
copies of the book before the
book was even in print. Russians
are bragging about how they're
you know, they got a handle on
this and a handle on that. It's
going to be great publicity. And
of course, the purpose of the
meetings were trying to gouge
the Chi purse Corporation, out
of some money for the Media Lab.
And the guy who was the CEO at
the time, Frank Beneke. He
wasn't going he was resisting
hard, but he wasn't going for
any of it. And but they were
they were, they were pitching as
hard as they could. And it was
quite interesting to be there.
And I was there for most of the
meeting until one moment where
Marvin Minsky, I believe I've
told his brother's story before.
Marvin Minsky walks in and sees
me and he knows who I am. And he
gets upset. And they rouse both
Hearst and myself, we got kicked
out. It was too late.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so but it's so
interesting to see that these
journalists who know how these
deals work, because they're
journalists, they're probably
just jealous that they don't
have a book deal where someone
pre buys it. But that, you know,
it's like, well, he's funded by
someone links to that guy. And
they're linked to everybody. You
know, journalists, goodbye.
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
if you have a problem with
somebody as a journalist, out,
write them, find out what their
what they're saying is wrong and
write about it. That's that's
the way you normally do it. You
don't out the guy with a bunch
of innuendo and smears kind of
an operation is that?
Adam Curry: Well, when you're
funded by those big groups, and
you're at the cocktail parties,
you know, it's very, it's very
enticing. Oh,
John C Dvorak: sure that you did
you get to try to do this to
Hirsch.
Adam Curry: They're going to do
it to everybody. Anybody who's
not on board with the message is
going to get it. That's just
that's, that's just the new way.
If you're a politician, you're
not on board, then you're gonna
get it. If you're a journalist,
you're not on board you're gonna
get it. The only thing that's
left standing is podcasts.
John C Dvorak: If you want to
call it scanning personally, I'm
sitting I'm sitting to that I
know you're still all that's
left all this left. Yeah, that's
gonna be there eventually you're
gonna find a way to get the
podcast to but no, I'm gonna get
back to San Francisco and do a
couple of clips. They have Biden
China clip. Yes.
Adam Curry: This was an
interesting meeting. I'm glad
I've expected you to come
through because it is your, your
front yard almost. You're
looking out the window as we
speak. And you can see and
John C Dvorak: I will mention
this last night is they decided
to show off and they did a
fireworks display specifically
for these, this Asian group. And
knowing that the Asians have
fireworks displays. I've been in
Asia and they've I've seen him
dynamite
Adam Curry: dynamite literally,
literally dynamite. I
John C Dvorak: would say that
this is the best fireworks
display I've seen on the bay for
ever. It has shells I've never
seen before. And it was like it
was only 15 minutes long, but it
was like 15 minutes of pure
finale. It was yells going off
every for every second of the 15
minutes Nice. Meanwhile, when
they do our Fourth of July
fireworks, it's poof, there's
one poof there's another it's
pathetic by comparison, but no,
but we have some Asians in the
audience. Let's get let's get in
Chinese communists. And the
streets are by the way lined
with Chinese communist flags.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I saw that one
American fat is one little
American flag. And what is Janet
Yellen doing meeting meaning?
Gee, she's on the little twerp
little nerd little elf
John C Dvorak: to the health.
Adam Curry: I think she isn't
taller. She knows she might be a
troll.
John C Dvorak: She looks kind of
like one. Yeah, she
Adam Curry: does. I mean, I hate
to rag on someone's appearance.
But
John C Dvorak: either way after
the whole meeting was over, he
got this. I'm gonna play the end
first, which is Biden yakking
away with the this is Biden
literate. And he says this in
his speech, which I think is a
great idea for a show title.
Literally woke up dead,
Unknown: by the way. And I'm Oh,
I guess I shouldn't identify
where it occurred. But, John, I
know two people near where I
live. Are kids literally
strangers where they woke up
dead. Someone inserted in
whether the young man did or not
inserted in. Turkey was taken
fentanyl.
Adam Curry: Literally woke up
dead. That's that. Ladies and
gentlemen. foam finger number
one. Murca. That's your guy
right there. That's your go.
Here
John C Dvorak: we go with the
report. This is Biden China's SF
one today
Unknown: in San Francisco
President Biden met face to face
with Chinese President Xi
Jinping for the first time in a
year. The two leaders are
announcing agreements on
military communication and a
crackdown on the Chinese
chemicals used to make the
lethal drug fentanyl. But as
Nick Schifrin reports from the
summit site, the goal was less
about breakthroughs and more
about stabilizing a troubled
relationship. President Biden
went today in a handshake in
great honor. And a four hour
summit. The leaders of the
world's largest economies, most
advanced militaries and most
consequential competition said
they wanted their relationship
to be stable. It is paramount
that you and I understand each
other clearly leader to leader
with no misconceptions or
miscommunication. We have to
ensure their competition does
not veer into conflict.
I'm still of the view that major
country competition is not the
prevailing trend of current
times and cannot solve the
problems facing China and the
United States or the world at
large. The two sides are
agreeing to what a senior US
official called a comprehensive
set of military communications,
Secretary of Defense Lloyd
Austin with his Chinese
counterpart, a job currently
empty the top US Indo Pacific
military commander with his
counterpart.
John C Dvorak: Do you hear what
he said?
Adam Curry: Yes. pointed out.
John C Dvorak: He said Lloyd
Austin was his counterpart. Yes.
Which is currently empty.
Adam Curry: Yes, he does not
have account what
John C Dvorak: does that mean?
I'm going to be meeting with my
counterpart although there's
nobody there. It's just an empty
room. There's, I guess the desk
I'll be talking to myself. I got
a hand puppet. What is he
taught? What is this mean? He's
taught he's with his counterpart
and there is no counterpart
Adam Curry: so they're talking
to a deputy The I guess nobody
John C Dvorak: says anything
about No, no, he was talking to
nobody. Well, that
Adam Curry: that sounds about
right for his position. I guess
the point is that they agree
that we'll call each other
before we send up a balloon.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was a
big deal.
Adam Curry: And balloons, that's
what they discussed. That was
all that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're
right. That's you summarize the
whole balloons. Here's part two,
but
Unknown: US China divisions
remain most notably over Taiwan.
Taipei confirmed for the first
time this week the US was
helping Taiwan train to defend
the island. Beijing considers
Taipei a breakaway province and
is increased its military
intimidation. Today President
Biden is warning China not to
interfere with Taiwan's January
presidential election. Beijing
labels the front runner William
Lai a separatist. But senior US
officials hope Beijing's
aggression toward Taiwan could
be quote inhibited by internal
problems. We are protests in
2021 in the offices of the real
estate developer Evergrande
revealed deep dissatisfaction
with the Chinese economy. Today,
more foreign direct investment
is flowing out of the country
than coming in. It's a sign
international investors are
concerned by Beijing's economic
management targeting of Western
firms and their employees and
rising labor costs, says lawyer
John Raimi, who specializes in
international business a few
years
ago, everyone believed that to
be competitive, you had to have
a presence in China. Today. I
haven't had anyone come to me
honestly for three years asking
to Could you help me make an
investment in China? That's
Adam Curry: actually a
completely valid point. I mean,
here is the scary G the dictator
as our president called him
later. Basically coming here
saying, Hey, man, hey, man,
don't pull away bro. Let's
pretend was y'all that Taiwan GQ
GQ, jaggy. I bought okay. But
this he's coming hat in hand.
John C Dvorak: And yesterday,
there was a lot of people that
interpreted this as had in hand
there's absolutely no reason you
should have come at all know
Adam Curry: why Woody and he's
met with every Jamocha already.
You already met Gavin Newsom
John C Dvorak: yet Oh, come on,
Gavin.
Adam Curry: You had a Gavin
date? I mean, come on. This is
like this is this is the big
scary guy. Why don't we Why
didn't Biden why you dictator
and punch him right in the face.
Because it's bull crap. It's
bull crap. We need China to sell
us stuff and they need our
dollars. That's it's it's a
system. Everybody knows this.
Whoa. At least it cleaned up San
Francisco. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: It's alarming.
Actually supplies go to part
three is a shorty. US
Unknown: officials believe that
trend has helped lead to a
Chinese charm offensive ahead of
the summit, including a recent
English language article in
state run. Shinhwa featuring
Shenzhen pings decade old
interest in quote, friendship
with America. She is expected to
take that message to American
CEOs tonight. He will tell them
China is still a good
investment.
Adam Curry: Bank. It's really
amazing to me all the narrative
about China just falls apart.
What is what is GE really afraid
of? Is he afraid of Putin?
John C Dvorak: I mean, no, he's
not afraid, afraid of his own
people. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes, that's exactly
like people.
John C Dvorak: This is a
management nightmare. Now the
Chinese have been adept at it
just homeless historically,
they're really talented at
managing hordes of people, which
makes them somewhat dangerous,
but it makes them very dangerous
in industrial settings, because
they like Foxconn, they can
manage, you know, 100,000 people
on an assembly line kind of or
not, I'll make an Apple phones.
So here's the last clip in this
group.
Unknown: Finally, like we know
that Xi Jinping arrival was met
with a number of protests in and
around San Francisco. Do we know
if the Chinese leader saw any of
those?
It's a good question. I'm not I
don't know if he saw them
personally. But Chinese
diplomats took pains, according
to US officials before the
arrival to make sure that they
asked you official US officials
exactly what Xi Jinping would
see looking out of his windows
going to each of these events.
And as an aside, our bus
actually had to go around
protests outside this summit
site, which is completely locked
down. There is of course
inordinate focus in the Chinese
system on the leader on Xi
Jinping. But she especially has
consolidated control US
officials believe that he really
is making his own judgment. And
that makes this kind of high
level diplomacy today, this kind
of Summit, all the more
important and all the more
reminiscent, frankly, of early
Cold War diplomacy between the
United States and the Soviet
Union.
John C Dvorak: He changed the
subject right. And ended
question about this. She she
sees anything and he goes on
about Oh, he's a dictator.
Adam Curry: All right, I've a
report here from CBS, which is
always fun because a CBS Morning
you know, when we get Gale, you
know, it's going to be high
level. And they brought in Mark
Esper. Wasn't he our defense
secretary at one point? Yes. He
John C Dvorak: was one of the
Yeah, I think you
Unknown: just spoke yesterday,
just outside San Francisco,
President Biden sat down with
China's Zhi Jing ping for their
first face to face meeting. In a
year's time the two leaders
pledged to ease tensions between
the two countries and President
Biden says they made important
progress with agreements to
combat the Fentanyl crisis and
also reestablish communication
between the two countries armed
forces. That's a biggie Joining
us now is former Secretary of
Defense Mark Esper who served in
the Trump administration. Mr.
Secretary, thank you very much
for being here. Former
paratrooper for West Point grad.
Oh, given his Hunter iFIX.
There, in addition to being
Secretary of Defense, you know,
this stuff I was say so he knows
his stuff. He knows.
Adam Curry: He knows. He knows.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: This is CBS
having to give the guy some Bona
feeties because they mentioned
Trump.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he knows his
stuff. Yeah, he was with Trump.
But he knows Trump. And
John C Dvorak: besides that, he
was also this, this, this and
this and this and this. He knows
his stuff. Good. Don't get
should ignore it. Yes. Yeah,
we'll rewind it
Unknown: so we can hear that
forces. That's a biggie. Joining
us now is former Secretary of
Defense Mark Esper who served in
the Trump administration. Mr.
Secretary, thank you very much
for being here. Former
paratrooper for West Point grad,
in addition to being Secretary
of Defense, you know this. So he
knows his stuff.
Adam Curry: You know, you're
even though you're Trump, you
know, your stuff.
Unknown: What takeaways from
this meeting? And how damaging
if you can put it in context?
Was this dictator comment that
President Biden said off the
cuff near the end of things?
Well, look, I think overall,
it's good that they're meeting
the rules to look to biggest
most powerful countries meeting
is a good thing that we talk,
right. one
Adam Curry: guy's worse than the
other guy's brain dead. Wow,
what a top meeting that was. And
Unknown: the two agreements that
they're touting coming out of it
is an agreement to have the
military's talk frequently,
which is important that when I
was secretary defense, I tried
to meet with my counterpart, at
least every three months to
talk, keep communication open,
build a rapport, if you will, so
that when times got tough, you
could open up that line and talk
Hey, man,
Adam Curry: we got to balloon
your balloon. Hey, man, I'm just
calling to check on the balloon
things.
Unknown: The other one is the
fentanyl agreement, which, right
because fentanyl is killing
100,000 Americans a year the
shipping made that same
agreement to President Obama and
he sent me that same agreement
to President Trump. Yeah, right.
So I think right, right,
President made two things. Two
statements are important one he
did, truthfully, candidly say
that Xi Jinping is a dictator,
which he is right, controls. The
secondly, he says we're
basically not going to trust
them. We got to verify what they
do, because China rarely keeps a
promise. Keeps a commitment. You
think that
they're hot on the progress?
Adam Curry: slanty eyed liars?
Unknown: No, because China needs
us right now more than we need
them. Why? Because their economy
is in the pits right now. US
investment we
Adam Curry: don't know is that
he's no. He said, This is what
are you drinking?
John C Dvorak: I heard you we
had some people send us some new
stuff. But just I'm finishing
off the polar another finishing
up the polar. Okay. All right.
We
Unknown: are in Chinese sorry.
Because their economy is in the
pits, right? They need us
investment. They need us
consumer sales, they would
purchase. Yeah, they do forth
and so on. They have a crisis.
And that represents 25% of their
GDP. They got some social unrest
going on. China is not in a good
state of affairs. And Jason ping
is rightfully concerned, I think
they
Adam Curry: all got together
just to say how are we going to
manage this crash that is coming
when the entire system collapses
upon itself? We're going to
blame you a little bit and you
can blame us a little bit. And
you know, I'll call you a
dictator. You call me a douche,
or whatever. I don't think there
was anything else I did discuss.
And he said, and by the way, I'm
gonna get going now I'm gonna
call you a dictator.
Unknown: But we are a Chinese
officials reacting to the
dictator comments saying it's
extremely wrong. And you're
responsible for sort of, I don't
want to say negate the goodwill
that we made yesterday,
but doesn't that put a little
bit of tainted shirts a little
bit? Sure. He does. That's
right. But we'll Clean up on
aisle six today from the White
House. President Biden has been
more candid that I think most
people would would prefer and
his administration, right, he
said a couple years ago on four
separate occasions that the
United States would come to
Taiwan's defense, and that's
important as well, I think that
is an issue that we haven't
heard much about, right is
Taiwan, right? Why is that
significant? That is clearly a
flashpoint where we can see the
United States and China get in
some type of conflict. And
importantly, Taiwan has
important elections coming up in
two months in January, and
they're just going to be a
change in power. And China's
very is watching this very
closely.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. It's a
script. It's a script and they
all had hookers and blow and
blow off some fireworks. This
was staged bull crowd.
John C Dvorak: Oh, We had a lot
of
Adam Curry: this stage bullcrap.
They did bring up Trump with the
Esper briefly. Mr. Secretary,
you seem to have survived the
Trump administration. There are
no most.
John C Dvorak: Wow, did you get
a God out alive? He
Unknown: does for Secretary, you
seem to have survived the Trump
administration. There are no mug
shots of us that I've seen on
you. For Christmas, coming for
Christmas. Are you concerned
about him possibly getting back
into the White House?
Absolutely. I've said on several
occasions, he's a threat to
democracy know what we've seen
come out.
Adam Curry: He's a threat to
democracy. He's a threat to
democracy from
Unknown: him the last few
months, and certainly the last
couple of weeks is it's going to
be about retribution. It's going
about using about weaponizing.
The institutions of government.
This
John C Dvorak: is a script
Adam Curry: and of course it is
Why else do you think he's on?
Wait a minute, this is this is
yet another example of Trump's
poor judgment in hiring. This
guy's a douchebag. Well, he's an
insider. He's a spook. Remember,
he's on CIA broadcast systems in
the morning. It's casual. It's
Cavalier. They miss really. Big
news was a Trump guy was a man
who was Trump guy, but he's,
he's the real deal. He's bad at
him. I'm a good guy. But you
know, Trump is danger to
democracy from him
Unknown: the last few months and
certainly the last couple of
weeks is it's going to be about
retribution. It's going about
using about weaponizing the
institutions of our government
to to go after his political
enemies and I
Adam Curry: really unlike what's
happening to him, okay. troubles
me. It
Unknown: concerns me. What this
mean troubles me
Adam Curry: concerns me that,
you know, the President might go
after his his, his political
opponents, it concerns me but
no, let's let's go after it
Unknown: troubles me. It
concerns me what this may mean
for our great Republic, great
Republic and our country. Mark,
we appreciate you joining us.
Thank you for
John C Dvorak: joining me for a
great Republic.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, you
know who else is back on the
scene with the Trump hate with
their rerunning scripts all over
the place? Called bear? Had
Barbra Streisand on the show?
Oh, is
John C Dvorak: she going to
leave the country again? I liked
by I liked Biden. I think he's
done a good job. I think he's
compassionate.
Unknown: He's smart.
He supports the right things.
How do you feel about the
specter of a second Trump
administration?
I will move. I can't live in
this country. If that's his he
became president.
Where would you go? Where would
you go? To England? Yeah,
Adam Curry: go. I like England.
England will welcome you with
open arms.
John C Dvorak: How many times
has she said this over the
years? She was gonna do it with
George Bush. If George W. Bush
had gotten reelected, she was
gonna leave the country.
Adam Curry: Yeah, now it's just
all what
John C Dvorak: is what is it?
Well, I mean, you don't bring a
guest on to do this. But you
could say, Well, you said this
before.
Adam Curry: No, he's not going
to do that. Now. He went
straight into how about anti
semitism? connect that to Trump?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you want to make
a push? Even though Trump's
daughter is uh, yeah,
Adam Curry: that you know,
what's, what's interesting. I've
received a lot of different
emails and correctly so about
fentanyl since that was on the
on the docket with GE to talk
about fentanyl. And the main
thing that people are pointing
out to me is that it is a farce
that you can overdose from
touching fentanyl from handling
fentanyl. From casually inhaling
some fentanyl that's dusted
around you, um, that this is
this is a you know, so kind of
following on with the you know
how dangerous it is and it's
going to you know,
John C Dvorak: that was almost
that car that got confiscated,
and then sold on auction.
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
couple of things going on. There
was a case in this. I have a
clip here as a Florida cop,
female cop. They stopped
somebody who I guess had
fentanyl or was on fentanyl. And
then all of a sudden she ODS on
fentanyl. But it wasn't an OD on
fentanyl. And they brought into
doctors to say no, no, this this
is she just had a panic attack.
They revived her with Narcan
from the panic attack. But they
are very specific to point out
that this whole idea of just a
one whiff or one touch I'm not
trying to say fentanyl is great,
obviously. But we have to be
realistic because we need the
truth. This is
Unknown: really a sensitive
topic that no one including the
medical community is trying to
discount the danger our law
enforcement officers face every
day. I took this situation to
two of the world's most renowned
experts on fentanyl. These
doctors literally wrote the
studies about this drug and its
effects. They insist even after
watching this video. It was In
overdose,
there's just no practical way in
an outdoor environment. That
could happen. Dr.
Lewis Nelson of Rutgers medical
school co published a prominent
study saying passive fentanyl
exposure is nearly impossible,
meaning you simply can't
overdose by coming in contact
with it. He says a small dose
away from his sleeve or inhaled
wouldn't cause an overdose.
You've seen TV where they put
out a line with a huge, you
gotta have a good amount to get
in your body. It's not the not
going to get a little powder on
your hand and put in your nose.
You're not going to get sick
from that. Toxicology
experts use the body camera
video released by the various
police department to support
their analysis. While medical
emergency is indeed happening.
They say it's not consistent
with that of an overdose officer
benek spoke with Fox 35
Believing the Narcan is was
saved her life
Narcan only works to reverse
Adam Curry: opiate overdoses.
Unknown: It does not work to get
you out of an anxiety attack.
While both doctors say it was a
good idea to use Narcan while
assessing the situation they
don't believe is what brought
her back. Most doctors believe
officer Banik was having a
reaction to what happened. I
just don't think it was an
overdose. Because it
seems so real. And I think these
are all legitimate concerns. I
don't think anybody's trying to
pull a fast one here. I think
these people really believe
they're exposed because this
what they've been told, happens,
doctors, hopefully
this can be a teaching moment
for many including law
enforcement about fentanyl. They
want people to know it's safe to
passively come in contact with
fentanyl and jump in to help
someone who is overdosing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now I
should bring this up. Although I
haven't done my research on it.
It makes nothing but sense it
this is the power of suggestion.
Yes. Yes. And as these people
have been hypnotized. Well, it's
important
Adam Curry: because we're being
psyops at this very moment that
terrorists are going to drop
fentanyl in America was going to
kill hundreds of 1000s of people
in cities, you know, it's not
necessarily true. So it's, it's
a fear tactic that may have just
doesn't have a basis in science,
science.
John C Dvorak: Speeches, I don't
want to change topics because I
want to go back to what you're
doing. But I want to play two
clips which are which are kind
of related to this idea of this,
of this power of suggestion.
Okay. And once as well as the
second clip is the one that
said, really gets my attention.
But this is about the loneliness
we talked about. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. The loneliness
I have. I have thoughts about
this. And we're at limit what's
the what's the name of your
report here.
John C Dvorak: These are Yale is
judiciary has to do with this.
This suicide in Yale. And
Adam Curry: groovy, it's, I see
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR where PBS
higher education is facing a
student mental health crisis.
That's the focus tonight of our
series rethinking college and
are reporting on early warnings
America's youth mental health
crisis. We start with Yale
University, which earlier this
year settled a lawsuit following
the death of a student by
suicide in 2021. According to
the agreement, the university
will now allow students more
flexibility to take lighter
course loads and to keep their
health care while on medical
leave. Yale agreed to the policy
after a group of alumni and
students sued the school,
arguing the policies
discriminated against students
with mental health issues.
Willow Sylvester is a Yale
graduate who was part of that
lawsuit, she explained what
things were like before the
settlement. When I
started at Yale, I just stopped
seeing my therapist and I felt
super isolated. Fast forward to
my senior year I was a first
year counselor, I was working
directly with first year
students and almost every single
one reported the same feelings
of feeling isolated on campus.
Mental Health Justice at Yale
was founded in the immediate
aftermath of Rachel
Scarborough's and bombs passing
by suicide. She was a first year
student, the resources that she
lacked and the policies that
made her feel like she didn't
have the help that she needed
were very, very clear, she had
spoken publicly about feeling
this need to move down to a part
time course load. And if she
could just move down to part
time courses, she would be able
to get on top of her mental
health, but that that was not an
option to you. Another thing
which was also related to why
Rachel wanted to go part time is
maintaining access to health
insurance when you're on leave
or withdrawal. If she had gone
home and taken a leave for her
mental health, she would lose
access to her your health
resources and also her your
mental health resources while
she was home that she needed
those. Both of those as a result
of the settlement are now
something that students can do
so students on leave maintain
access to their health
insurance, and students can go
down to a part time Courseload
we absolutely should not have
had to lose a life To get these
changes, rolling mental
Adam Curry: health resources is
the best name for
antidepressants I've ever heard.
Mental health resources, she
would lose her access to mental
health resources. And therefore
she passed by suicide. Oh my
god. We don't we're not. We're
not. We're not speaking that
depart. The
John C Dvorak: second clip here
is the one that kind of reminds
me of the
Adam Curry: Yale gives students
health insurance. How does this
work?
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
when I at the University of
California, when you're a
student, you have a free you
have free. It's like socialized
medicine. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So that's
right. So you can get your
Adderall for your test. You
John C Dvorak: go to, to call it
hospital and you'd make an
appointment, you go see doctors,
and they, you know, if you have
whatever, you need to have a
dentist there, too. I had a
tooth filled there once. Anyway,
so let's so I don't know what
what the deal is. So part two is
the part that interests me and
so far is what we talked about.
So
Unknown: what more can
universities and colleges do to
address the academic pressure?
The loneliness that students are
feeling? Is this a structural
thing that colleges have to
address? There's definitely
struck referral points to it. So
we talk about how has mental
health included in everything
that we're working on in college
campuses, right. So right things
like leave policies, if
someone's really struggling? How
do we make sure that when they
leave, they feel comfortable
asking for help, that they feel
comfortable coming back on
campus, that they're able to do
that? That's really important.
There's mental health and
everything that we're doing, but
it's also how do students feel
comfortable talking to faculty
to begin with, to know that
those faculty feel comfortable
even talking to those students,
because I see faculty when they
don't, they haven't had training
in mental health. They're not
psychiatrist. And they're often
the first people that come to
students, and they're supposed
to support them through their
mental health experiences as
coaches as faculty members, as
administrators, and they need
the support to be able to do
that, too. So how do we make it
easier for faculty to talk to
students, for students to feel
comfortable talking to faculty,
for them to notice stuff, so
they get seen earlier, so then
they come to me, and they can
talk to each other? Earlier,
too.
We've heard how students say
they want more transparency,
school administrators, obviously
have to abide by health, privacy
and confidentiality laws, there
might be concerns about
reputational damage to the
colleges and universities. Some
administrators have a concern
that the more they talk about
suicide, that that might, in
some ways encourage or might
lead to more deaths by suicide.
How should university and
college leaders, how often
should they talk about this? And
how should they talk about it?
So there's no evidence that the
more we talk about things, and
the more we ask about things,
the worse it is. So as a
psychiatrist, we're encouraged
to always ask our patients about
suicide, it doesn't mean that
we're going to make patients
then think about it. We don't
implant those ideas. In fact, we
support people by asking about
those things.
Adam Curry: Well, she pulled the
divorce rack right there with
the no evidence that was fishy.
So it
John C Dvorak: goes like this.
So have you ever thought about
suicide? No, but not as you
mentioned. It's bull crap. This
is the power of suggestion. It's
Adam Curry: a mental health
experience. It's just what she
said, Well, this fold, okay,
this is very important. And we
do have a mental health crisis
in the United States is because
of the advertisement and of
SSRIs of antidepressants. I know
a lot of you are on them. I'm
not condemning you in any way.
But I got an interesting note
from one of our producers, and
that's in regards to ozempic
will go V death bound and and
all the others and it relates to
this. We have heard many times
that people who are on
antidepressants I'm just gonna
say SSRIs but I think it's all
under the same basic family that
these make you gain weight. And
I always thought that it that
these anti because you know the
antidepressants supposedly also
make your you lose libido, which
is great because then we can
prescribe Ed drugs, even for
women though, and for women, I
think it's especially they lose
their libido but the weight
gain, I never really realized
what it was and one of our
producers wrote in and said,
yeah, yes, we have a an obesity
epidemic, but it's not just
sugar addiction. And listen to
this. Because this comes back to
our topic foods noise. I thought
food noise was just people who
are addicted to sugar. No, no,
this comes from the psychiatric
medication or producer writes.
For the last five years I've
been taking psychiatric
medication. Unfortunately, he
didn't mention which one that
causes weight gain as a side
effect. main point is, for me
the hunger is not related to
sugar as Adam suggested, I don't
want a chocolate bar any more
than I wanted chicken or a bowl
of rice, the best way I can
describe the sensation is a sort
of anxiety relating to hunger.
This is the food noise. If I'm
even even a little hungry, I get
very tense and panicky and feel
a need to kill that sensation as
quickly as possible. In term
that causes some fear that I
don't even want to get a little
bit hungry. So I want to eat
even more. So I'm not hungry in
between eating. okay with me on
this, this is this is really
messed up. As another
consequence, when I do eat, I
tend to overeat of that st for
that same fear, I strongly want
to kill the hunger sensation. So
I better eat two pieces of toast
rather than one and maybe a
small bowl of cereal as well
just to be safe. And at
mealtime, the drive to kill the
hunger sensation and avoid
having it pop up in the future
causes me to eat larger portions
as well. As I said, it doesn't
need to be anything sugary
whatsoever. This particular
medications worked beautifully
for my severe depression, and
has really changed my life for
the better. I don't want to stop
taking but I also don't want to
add another medication to offset
the food noise. So I had this
wrong. This food noise is caused
by the antidepressant, which to
me is a defective product. You
can call that say you can call
that a side effect. I call it a
defective product. But now
luckily, and now I'm
understanding the marketing of
the food noise. Their marketing
will go V and ozempic to people
who are already on
antidepressants. That's what's
going on here. That's a big
market. And the problem is and
the problem they're having is
the insurance companies don't
want to jump on board yet. So
that's $1,000 a pop another
producer writes in and he he's
in the field. It's he says it's
about the rebates. Currently
employers are mostly not
covering weight loss GLP one
drugs that's ozempic will go via
etc. But they are forced to
cover the same drug for diabetes
ozempic by creating the separate
branding, remember we have
Monjack Manjaro, rebranding as a
zip bound, that we should have
rebranded at Kilimanjaro, but
that's whatever, they will start
to leverage rebates to force the
coverage. For the diabetes
version of the drugs ozempic
Manjaro is at bound they will
offer a nominal nominal rebate
to the insurance company say
just $200. For example, because
the insurers are resistant to
cover the weight loss version of
the drugs, they will start to
leverage portfolio requirements
to say if you cover we'll go
visit bound in addition to
ozempic Manjaro will increase
your rebate to $400 for both
products. So this is this is a
money game that they're playing.
And now and now they've added
another dimension. And luckily
we have the study to show the
study comes from the very
pharmaceutical company that
makes the drug that this does
more than just help you with
your weight gain thanks to SSRIs
and antidepressants. So let's
Unknown: get to this first one
cardiovascular disease. What is
the studies showing? So two big
headed medical headlines we're
following Robin the first one
using the drugs semaglutide. In
a study funded by the drugmaker,
we've known for some time that
that drug is cardioprotective
reduces the risk of
cardiovascular events in people
with diabetes. Take a look at
what this study did. They
studied people without diabetes,
who have were known to have a
diagnosis of cardiovascular
disease and who were already
also diagnosed with overweight
or obesity, and found an
associated 20% reduced risk of
fatal heart attack, non fatal
heart attack and non fatal
stroke. So those are significant
findings
about weight loss. Are there
other theories involved?
And there are other theories?
And that's what's really
interesting about this.
Adam Curry: Not just because
you're fat and you're dying from
obesity No, there's it's
interesting little things little
bit we've learned from the study
from the people who make the
drug
Unknown: bread study, the more
we're finding possible other
theories and data has shown in
lab animals that semaglutide can
reduce inflammation, some mini
med school here it can promote
what's called plaque stability
in those arteries making the
plaque less likely to break off
and close off that artery and
then it almost works like a
blood thinner in some in lab
animals in terms of reducing
platelet clumping so that when
you combine that with weight
loss, significant cardio
protective effects can really
have an impact.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's great
and everybody had this story.
Everybody's on the
John C Dvorak: story everybody
beggar here's
Adam Curry: the NBC they
Unknown: are the blockbuster
drugs helping millions lose
weight. Now a new study finds
evidence that drugs like govi
and ozempic may not just help
people lose weight but could
also help their heart health.
This house has the details. As
the weight loss drug revolution
explodes nationwide. New
research shows the medications
may not only help patients shed
pounds but also improve heart
health. parto recent clinical
trial shows semaglutide The
active ingredient in popular
weight loss drugs will go V and
ozempic could reduce the risk of
heart attacks or strokes by 20%.
So highly significant. Dr.
Michael Lind cough is the lead
Adam Curry: these these drops
that NBC did is great, so highly
significant
Unknown: strokes by 20%. So
highly significant. Dr. Michael
link off is the lead author of
the trial which followed 17,000
obese adults 45 and older who
had pre existing cardiovascular
disease but were not diabetic of
the participants. 8% who
received a placebo had a heart
attack or stroke compared to
6.5%. Who took will go V
Adam Curry: shown in in any so
that's their 20%
John C Dvorak: the different
Yeah, 20% is from eight to six,
and all
Adam Curry: the rest died from
the COVID shot.
John C Dvorak: Oh, cool. Go V
Yeah. Wait, wait, there's
Adam Curry: more. There's more,
but I gotta stop it. Okay.
John C Dvorak: How does a survey
like this even come into being?
This is a diabetic drug and then
it became a weight loss drug,
but they've given it to just
randos who have a heart attack.
I have an idea Bill, what can we
do? That's given these random
this random crowd of people that
have heart condition Rando
fatties?
Adam Curry: No, it was Rando
fatty.
John C Dvorak: Give him this and
see what happens. I mean, what
who's who's behind this idea?
Why, what was the thesis behind
it? Because there's no evidence
that that this drug had anything
to do at heart. This is mercury
rigged.
Adam Curry: This is marketing.
It was Norval notice Novo
Nordisk themselves who did the
study? It's this is this is
marketing,
John C Dvorak: taking the same
drug and trying it against
people that have a Zima or
whatever it's called, are the
people with flatulence I mean,
are they what are they testing
this stuff on?
Adam Curry: Or or COVID
vaccination? I mean, by the way,
this sounds like the binary you
know, solution like I you know,
you got blood clots, but maybe
if you take this thing, you
know, you'll live a little
longer, you know, the clot shot
won't get you. This is also
cynical, it's drug upon drug
upon drug upon drug, and if it
isn't the food noise. Yep. Then,
then it's, it's to stop you from
dying. Well, let's continue up
until
Unknown: now, no one has shown
in in any group of patients with
overweight and obesity that the
risk of cardiovascular events
could be reduced.
The findings of the study funded
by Novo Nordisk the maker of
will go V come as the FDA
approves a new version of
diabetes drug Manjaro for weight
loss called zet bound. New
research shows the active
ingredient in that drug ters
appetite may help type two
diabetes patients reduce
inflammation which may lower the
risk of heart disease.
mundra changed my life. 30 year
old listen to that,
Adam Curry: listen to that. They
just dropped this as a
psychological operation and that
just dropping non sequitur
Manjaro saved my life. Beatty's
patients
Unknown: reduce inflammation,
which may lower the risk of
heart disease, mundra changed my
life. Wow. 30 year old Alexis
Mitchell has been taking Manjaro
for just over a year now and
says she's lost 125 pounds,
I don't want to wait until I
have a heart attack. I don't
want to wait until I have a
stroke.
But despite the promise of these
drugs, all the side effects are
not fully known. This is
not meant for the person who
sort of wants to casually lose
510 pounds, you know, before a
big event. We don't necessarily
think it's worth taking some of
the risks, some of which are
known, some of which are
unknown.
And these drugs aren't cheap as
much as $1,300 a month most
healthcare plans don't cover
them. But experts say these
findings could push insurance
companies to do so.
Adam Curry: Okay. So this is
really the point of, of this
marketing campaign. And the
agency said Listen, guys, I
think our best shot of really
getting a change here and the
insurance companies is probably
to go to CBS. You know, because
CBS has Gail Gail knows Oprah
OPRAH You know Wait watch Oprah
so we should probably have them
do the story and that will
probably got some some earned
earned marketing earned
advertising space that will show
you know that will really move
the needle on the insurance
company's covering this once you
get the rebates set up. So let's
get Dr. Le pook from CBS to dot
okay. Okay, good. We got the by
I'll call this I'll call the
station.
Unknown: New research on the
popular weight loss drug we go V
could change the way doctors
treat patients with heart
related problems. The study from
Novo Nordisk the drug maker
behind what go V found it can
reduce the risk of heart attack
stroke or heart related death by
20%. CBS News CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. John Liu joins
us now you'll duck What's your
job? What's your job?
It's more than 17,000 people 41
countries I want emphasize that
these are people who were
overweight or obese, a BMI of 27
or above, and they had some
underlying heart related issue
almost 70% that had a heart
attack. Now 20% decrease in
heart related issues like heart
attack, stroke or death from
some heart related issue. It's
interesting
Adam Curry: how they can measure
20% didn't have a heart attack,
all the rest had a heart attack.
Seriously, maybe I'm hearing
that wrong. But it sounds like
you know, we had all these
people had heart issues. And
these people didn't have a heart
attack
Unknown: had some underlying
heart related issue almost 70%
that had a heart attack. Now 20%
decrease in heart related issues
like heart attack, stroke, or
death from some heart related
issue. That's really important.
So this is an important study, I
want to parse to point out that
I didn't like the amount and I
think other people talked about
that there wasn't enough
representation, who was mostly
white males.
Adam Curry: Oh, it wasn't
diverse. It wasn't diverse.
Okay, that's a disclaimer. Now
let's get into it. Come on, Doc.
Okay, so
Unknown: there's a lot of people
that hear
about these weight loss drugs,
and they want to lose five,
seven, maybe 10 pounds? Do you
recommend that they go in this
direction? No.
And I'm really glad that you
mentioned that, okay, I have a
lot of pain because the agency
wanted me to bring this up, do
internal medicine and gi I have
a lot of patients who come to me
and say I want to lose that, you
know, six or seven, eight
pounds. That's not the group of
people who've been studied. We
don't know the long term side
effects in those people or even
the effects of in those people.
So I think we have to, you know,
if to say there is a shortage of
this drug, and these kinds of
drugs, because I think a lot of
you who are not, you know, in
the group that that have been
recommended for that. I think
it's important to just fall.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Okay,
well, good. Please, there's a
shortage. So getting getting
early. Now. I mean, it works for
you if you want to lose six or
seven pounds, but don't don't do
that. Don't Don't, don't do
that.
Unknown: So these weight loss
drugs are getting really
popular, and they're so
effective. But are they too good
to be true? And then what
happens when someone stops
taking the medicine, they might
gain the weight back? And then
what happens to now their heart
health if
they were part of that? Yeah.
So I love these questions,
right? Because it's big picture
stuff. And
Adam Curry: because the agency,
again, asked me to talk about
it, we have
Unknown: to look at the big
picture if there really hasn't
been a good intervention for
people to lose weight. And we
know that that it's important
for people to lose weight for
all sorts of reasons. So this is
a tool in our toolbox. But it's
not the only tool. I do have a
diet. And we do have exercise.
And I don't know, important, but
you know, it is something that
for the first time we have
something that's effective, but
again, you have to use it
judiciously.
Adam Curry: So what did he
didn't answer the question? He
said, you could you could use
diet or exercise, but it's a
tool. I mean, why use a
screwdriver if you've got this
hammer, here's the hammer,
here's the hammer and then
finally the
Unknown: money shot. So this is
not only a study of will go V
but by will go V in the sense of
the drug maker conducted the
research it should that make us
extra skeptical? And do you
think insurance? You're gonna
look at this and think, okay,
Adam Curry: ah, no, this is the
insurance company question. Here
we go. This is
Unknown: not only a study of
will go V, but by will go V in
the sense of the drug maker
conducted the research, should
that make us extra skeptical,
and you think insurance
companies are going to look at
this and think, Okay, we'll
cover it now. That's a good
question.
I think, Oh, I always looked at
who funded this study, or who
ran the study. And I think
you're right, it was the drug
company who funded it. And I
think that is something that you
want to always look at. And so
you want to look down and say,
Okay, let me look, I've got the
study here. I've read it about
10 times. Anything that doesn't
quite make no, yes.
Adam Curry: No, I did my own
research. But
Unknown: what was the insurance
get involved in covers this,
right? So right, right now I
have diamond battles all the
time, with insurance companies
not paying for this medication.
And this group of medications
and people who absolutely should
be on it. Peter had a BMI over
30. They have diabetes, they
have heart disease, and they
won't pay it. So I think this is
a big battle going on. What's
interesting here is now they
can't say well, it's just
cosmetic guys showing that it
actually decreases the risk of
heart attack. There it is, or
there's optimism, the people who
write
insurance companies, your move
Dr. gentlefolk. Thank you very
much. Appreciate it.
Adam Curry: Literally the script
said now tell them it's their
move. Is there a move? It's not
John C Dvorak: just cosmetic?
That's pretty that's that is a
three pronged attack? Yes. Yes.
Aimed at the insurance companies
on behalf of a drug company just
got lots of money. And this is
the reason why drug money should
not be mixing with media. And
with these, with these purchases
of time, which is what that that
was a native ad as the others
were Yes. And this should be
illegal is this we're the only
country that allows this besides
the idiots in New Zealand and
Adam Curry: a no agenda
producers. If you're on
antidepressants, and you're
gaining weight. I love you. I
love you. I don't care how fat
you are. I love you. Seriously,
don't don't it just doesn't
sound like a good idea to add
this to the mix. It doesn't.
John C Dvorak: It doesn't change
topics here. I Want to try the
new intelligence agency?
Adam Curry: I'd love you. I love
you just the size you are. Okay,
that's important for me to say
because I love I love our
producers. I don't care how big
they are.
John C Dvorak: Were you gone
big? So we have a new I didn't
know this, but we have an
intelligence agency that is not
really listed in the big
winners, 16 of them that was
supposed to have 17 Not sure I
thought it was 23. Well,
whatever it is, this is another
one. And it's kind of slipped by
everybody. And I want to see if
you can pick it up in this
conversation with Mark Warner on
Face The Nation last Sunday. And
he's talking about all the crap
that's going on he now he's the
head of the Senate Intelligence
Committee. So he's knows about
everything that's got anything
Oh, he
Adam Curry: knows that. He knows
everything. Yes, he knows
everything. You know, you know.
So I
John C Dvorak: want to get to
just the beginning of this here.
This is kind of the first clip
that just kind of introduced
what they're chatting about is
this kind of meaningless. But
here we go.
Unknown: I also think the
President needs to push
President Xi on the continuing
intellectual property theft,
that some years accounts for
close to five Erich Gamma
dollars of intellectual property
being stolen. And I firmly
believe, when we've seen no
retreat from China in terms of
its level of technology
investment, I absolutely believe
that national security in the
21st century is more than tanks
and guns. It is who wins the
battle for artificial
intelligence and quantum
computing and advanced energy,
that level of Chinese investment
for example, on rare earth
minerals coming out of Africa is
huge. And we need to be able to
counter that with America and
with our friends.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he
doesn't know what he's doing.
Okay, so here we go a clip to an
end an intelligence agency has
casually dropped in here, the
new one and he never says
anything one way or the other
about I have a third clip just
to back that up to show that
after this, but they would
listen to see if you can figure
out which and what who this is.
Unknown: So you want guardrails
I imagined set up with China on
artificial intelligence and the
like but
Adam Curry: guard rails you
know, there's three things we
got to look at one is insane.
Two is guardrails. And the third
is optic optic is everywhere now
as well. Optic
Unknown: legislating around a
lot of this is really hard. It's
not moving very quickly.
The market. I did the bill that
was terribly bipartisan, 13 and
13, Democrats, Republicans about
saying we need an approach
that's not simply focused on
tick tock been on all foreign
technology that might pose a
national security risk, right,
from right, China or Russia or
Iran. Right. And suddenly, we
had the extremes on both the
left and the right come out
against that legislation. It
needs to move. Because
particularly now, as you see,
literally 40% of young people
get all their news from tick
tock. So I hope those kinds of
issues will be we can get some
energy behind them now coming
after this summit. But this
technology competition, we've
had military competitors like
Russia, we've never had an
economy, it's making the
investments the way China is in
these new technology domains.
So Microsoft this week came out
with a report that said Russia,
Iran and China will interfere in
the 2024 presidential race, not
not they were certainly about
this and other close
presidential races worldwide.
Oh,
Adam Curry: you mean the the
guys who read everybody's
outlook and have access to what
word documents you open and any
application you open mean, those
guys?
John C Dvorak: Since when didn't
Microsoft, oh, plan only become
an intelligence agency often,
but do these reports about who's
going to interfere with the
election?
Adam Curry: They've been doing
that for a while. I mean, they
they know all of these all of
these zero day exploits? It's
all windows. Windows is the
spyware of for everybody.
John C Dvorak: I will I would
think that Mark Warner would say
hey, wait a minute. They're not
an intelligence agency that can
make these determinations. Yeah,
they are. They're Microsoft, he
should say, Well, you you're
saying that but that. So you're
saying it's official paper? They
have government agency.
Adam Curry: If Bill Gates can be
the doctor of vaccines, why
couldn't Microsoft be in charge
of intelligence?
John C Dvorak: Well, I guess
they are because here's what he
says after this. Right
immediately after she makes his
accusation and Microsoft is
telling us about the upcoming
elections. He's just been
sloughs it off. Yeah, that
Microsoft is obviously one of
our boys.
Unknown: Is your legislation and
a stop something like that?
I think our legislation will
take on an issue like a tick
tock, which is I am afraid could
be used as a propaganda channel.
John C Dvorak: tick tock. He
wasn't even talking about tick
tock
Adam Curry: now just just shut
up about Microsoft ma'am. He's
got
John C Dvorak: the and by the
way, he made the assertion that
40% of America's youths use
huge, huge, huge have get their
news from tick tock. I, I go on
tic tac as much as anybody for
certain to get my clips. I've
never seen a news report on tick
tock have you?
Adam Curry: Well, now now you're
just being a fuddy duddy because
No, of course, there's no news
reports. What they get is that
the all those chicks talking
about talking about the letter
from Osama, that's news to them.
That's news. News is a fight
between Ben Shapiro and Candace
Owens. That's news. There's no
news reports. That's old school.
They also, if I told you about
the restaurant in Amsterdam,
they don't go to Yelp anymore to
get restaurant reviews. Now they
go on Tik Tok, and they say
Where can I get great, great
stroke voxels in Amsterdam, and
then they'll just look at videos
and then they'll go make a video
because they were there were all
the videos were made. It's a
plague. And and and the reason
Warner was the guy who wrote the
legislation, because Google at
all are flipping out, they know
they're losing market share.
That's the only reason I
remained my stance remains firm.
That No,
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
identify the stance I can argue
against. I can argue against a
few things you do. But it's not
that. It's obviously Google and
Google properties. big supporter
of Mark Warner big
Adam Curry: time all those guys
are they hate it. Well, they all
of them. And
John C Dvorak: that's why the
whole mention of Microsoft in
this report, as an intelligence
agency telling us about the
upcoming elections. It just went
right off his back like like
water off a duck. Because it was
like, Yeah, this was Yeah, yeah,
Microsoft knows this is a setup.
This is bad. By the way.
Microsoft should not no, no.
Adam Curry: Have you ever
installed Windows and read what
it says? Hey, we're gonna track
this. We're going to track that
we're gonna check this don't
worry about it's all going to
just nonnamous Don't worry about
it's all good. But Apple, you
start up an app on Apple poop up
that little ping the apple HQ.
All of that is compromised. And
this is all a setup to some AI
bullcrap stories and AI Oh, oh
AI is so dangerous. And
obviously the algos which is AI
used by tick tock need to be we
need to get in there right away
because it's not doing the right
thing. We don't have control
over it. Or maybe someone has
control over it that we don't
like. And so we need to regulate
everything. And Nikki Haley is
right on point. I'm sure you've
seen the clip, she's and this is
going to happen. Because the big
AI guy in America here is Elon
Musk, and he's already on this
path. This is literally his
talking points. Nikki Haley is
in the bag.
Unknown: When I get into office.
The first thing we have to do
social media accounts, social
media companies, they have to
show America their algorithms.
Let us see why they're pushing
what they're pushing. The second
thing is every person on social
media should be verified by
their name. That's first of all,
it's a national security threat.
When you do that, all of a
sudden, people have to stand by
what they say. And it gets rid
of the Russian bots, the Iranian
bots and the Chinese bots. And
then you're gonna get some
civility when people know their
name is next to what they say
countable and they know their
pastor and their family members
going to see it. It's going to
help our kids and it's going to
help our country.
Adam Curry: Oh no, not my
waster.
John C Dvorak: What do you mean
the names are going to have to
be verified so nama Raja Raha
WA, which is Nikki Haley's real
named is going to have to switch
her name to something realistic
instead? The phony baloney Nikki
Haley?
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, of course.
It'd
John C Dvorak: be not. Or
Nimrod, Nimrod Murata, Rand
Hawa.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. And,
John C Dvorak: but everyone else
gonna maybe it's okay for her to
go with Nikki Haley. Okay. I'm,
Adam Curry: first of all, I'm a
proponent of this. I agree
wholeheartedly. Let's destroy it
all. Everybody has to register
and be verified for all
platforms. I'm all in. That's
great. And I'll just sit there
with my little blog, and my
little RSS feed, and I can be
anonymous. And I can call myself
Nikki Haley if I want to. I'm
all in all platforms should be
registered and you should be
part of the system and the
Gulag. Totally. She's on the
right path. Go Nikki. What's
your name? Nimrod. Nimrod,
Nimrod? Yes, Elon is going to do
this because it'll be connected
to your bank account. This is
what they this is what they
want. And I'm I'm all for it. Go
please. This is how we destroy
the internet. The open free
internet if registered for you
to go to register for Google, if
you want to use that stuff, then
you deserve to be tracked and
punished when you go when you go
astray. Meanwhile, I'll sit here
with my little Linux at my
little, my little start nine
server, and I'll just be happy
as a clam. My podcasts on that's
where IPFS and yo yo like it.
John C Dvorak: Hi, I'm Adam
curry. I have a podcast.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's the only
thing left that that still is
has not been compromised. They
even got Spotify to try it and
they couldn't do it. Couldn't do
it. Couldn't do it. So always
John C Dvorak: doable it's not
the network's licensing the FCC
is going to take care of it Good
luck. Good luck good luck in
predicting this for years
Adam Curry: it's not its own the
only people that golden age
John C Dvorak: right now people
who can a golden age the only
port no agenda is the Golden Age
The
Adam Curry: only people who can
issue podcast licenses is your
no agenda show no one else has
the right but us well
John C Dvorak: I think the no
agenda Show podcast license
would be which is one way of
going and we should also have an
award show
Adam Curry: the award shows are
great because everyone has to
pay to enter that's my favorite
part of the
John C Dvorak: award shows
you're gonna say the first two
years is going to be free
Adam Curry: though with all of
them are now for pay. I'm gonna
say oh it's really
John C Dvorak: that's how you do
it house you spec to do these
things.
Adam Curry: I mean, do people
pay to enter the Oscars? Is
there an entrance fee?
John C Dvorak: No that that but
that's picked up by the by the
you have to be immense duty.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, man. Oh,
membership. Well, there you go.
It's
John C Dvorak: the same with the
Emmys. You have to be a member.
All right.
Adam Curry: Let's switch gears
for a second because there's
more propaganda. And the reason
is obvious. The propaganda is
cop 29. I
John C Dvorak: have a couple of
climate Blips. Because I knew
you were going to do this. I'll
kick
Adam Curry: it off with the new
study from the Lancet. This is
important.
John C Dvorak: Because whenever
you wait, wait, stop. The Lancet
is a medical journal. Yes, sir.
Adam Curry: The Lancet is a
medical journal and is very
concerned about your climate
health. According
Unknown: to a report by over 100
Researchers from international
institutions, heat related
deaths could increase 4.7 fold
by the middle of this century.
John C Dvorak: Right? Did she
say 100? Racist? Yes 100 racist
related deaths 100
Adam Curry: racist with hate
related deaths.
Unknown: According to a report
by over 100 Researchers from
international institutions, heat
related deaths could increase
4.7 fold by the middle of this
century without global action on
climate change, heat
related mortality of adults over
65 years of age, a very
vulnerable age groups have
increased by 85% Since the 90s
alone, and we now know that more
than half of that increase
wouldn't have occurred if
temperatures hadn't increased.
So we know that it's climate
change coffee with the 2023
report of the lancet countdown
on health and climate change was
published on Wednesday and
outlines the imperative need for
a health centered response in a
world facing irreversible harms.
That in 2023, the world saw its
highest global temperatures in
over 100,000 years, and extreme
droughts are growing,
jeopardizing water security,
sanitation and food production.
One of the solutions posed by
this researcher is to consider
how infrastructure and economies
plan for rising temperatures.
For example, the existence of
terraces, green roofs, these
work for Blue Zones, parks with
fountains and climatic shelters
work, therefore, things that are
known to work at the local level
should be applied. First,
he says the goal is to
drastically reduce greenhouse
gas emissions. According to the
report, 1337 tonnes of carbon
dioxide is still emitted every
second the consequences of which
could be dire on our health
systems. Now
Adam Curry: before you hit us
with your clips, by the way,
that 100,000 years, there's even
more coming up later. In
America. We have to you know,
this doesn't work for us. Like
really? I'm gonna die from the
heat. I live in Texas, you know,
what are you trying to do to me
like, I'm not going to die from
heat related death. Here's how
we do it in America and ABC some
Unknown: Christmas tree farms
are being forced to close in
multiple states due to a
shortage this year. A Christmas
tree farm outside New Orleans
says it suffered extensive
damage due to the drought and
heat this year. And in New York
one farm says a major shipment
of Fraser trees was cancelled
due to the shortage forcing the
farm to close for the season.
Oh,
we didn't want to open just
partial, and have people come in
and be disappointed. We felt the
right decision was to close the
form this year. But the field
gets a little bit bigger. Give
us time to source some trees for
next year.
Another factor in the tree
shortage the historic wildfires
in Canada this year.
Adam Curry: Climate change baby
it's always Oh, your Christmas
tree. Oh, oh no honey to emit
less co2. I'm a horrible person.
My favorite is what they're
doing with Iceland. Iceland.
Iceland is great. Iceland is I
mean, it is one hotbed of
volcanic and seismic activity
always has been, always has been
always has been. So it's a
little worse this year. So we
have a perpetual drone shot of a
highway that's cracking up. I
wonder what this could be from
what could this be from
Unknown: Iceland hits once again
by a series of earthquakes. The
tremors have sparked fears of a
volcanic eruption in the
Reykjanes Peninsula in the
southwest of the island.
Authorities have declared a
state of emergency. According to
the Icelandic Met Office, the
IMO, an eruption could take
place in several days. According
to the IMO, some 24,000. tremors
have been registered on the
peninsula since late October, as
well as three eruptions since
2021. Eruptions which experts
say could become larger and
increasingly common as climate
change melts place. The current
deglaciation that's occurring
and
Adam Curry: it's because of the
D glaciation. Listen up Climate
Change
Unknown: melt glaciers with the
current deglaciation.
Adam Curry: Everybody knows
volcanoes are caused by melting
glaciers climate change, melt
glaciers,
Unknown: with the current
deglaciation that's occurring in
Iceland is affecting our ELL
volcanoes and magma bodies that
are residing these volcanoes,
the future would mean even
frequent or large eruptions.
Iceland has around size, the
highest number in Europe, and
unpredictable environments for
its residence into a 2010 an
eruption in the south of the
island led to the cancellation
of 10s of 1000s of flights,
leaving some 10 million people
stranded.
John C Dvorak: All climate yet
debt.
Adam Curry: That was a second. I
think that was France 24
John C Dvorak: Does it sound
like France? 24 I
Adam Curry: hadn't written down
France 24 That's on the clip.
But that's
John C Dvorak: gross, but PBS
why PBS basically lying to scare
people? This is disgusting.
There's that real debt clip just
irks me. I know. Here's PBS a
Unknown: UN's weather agency
warned today that greenhouse
gases in the atmosphere reached
a record high in 2022. With no
end in sight. New data showed
average concentrations of carbon
dioxide were 50% above pre
industrial levels for the first
time. methane and nitrous oxide
were also higher, raising the
odds of more extreme weather
events
practically seen an increase of
heat waves waves about half of
the planet has been facing an
increased flooding events and
flooding 1/3 of the planet has
been facing an increase of
drought events and this negative
trend will continue until
2002 60s. Yes,
John C Dvorak: it's all scaled
up to the big can't wait wait
wait play this clip climate
worse co2. Is this the same
clip?
Unknown: Let me say the UN's
weather agency warned today that
John C Dvorak: you got it from
PBS. Yes, that's PBS you
shouldn't be there.
Adam Curry: There shouldn't be
there. You shouldn't be there. I
can be at PBS all I want. I
don't go to NTD believe me.
That's you're
John C Dvorak: at the kind of
the adjunct to that clip is the
methane report, which is I don't
know why they have to do this.
Yes. You can't do anything about
methane. I mean, it's not like
you know, it's his cow farts.
Meanwhile,
Unknown: European Union
negotiators agreed today on a
deal to lower methane emissions.
The bloc's energy sector would
have to monitor report and take
action on cutting emissions. The
deal still needs approval by the
European Parliament and
executive council.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that means
getting rid of more cows. Come
on. CBS CBS is in on the game.
Unknown: A new report released
by the White House today shows
that every corner of the country
is being impacted by climate
change. Recording
Adam Curry: every corner of
record.
John C Dvorak: Are you finding
the Fredericksburg, Texas to be
impacted by climate change? No,
Adam Curry: because we're not a
corner. We're in
John C Dvorak: kind of a corner.
San Francisco Bay area but I'm
not seeing it. Yeah, all I'm
saying is lousy weather reports
that are inaccurate. You
Adam Curry: know if those if
those if the IPCC and the cop 29
people, if they only if they
were smart, they'd be inviting
us on the junket. There's
John C Dvorak: a problem when
you're when you're not
corruptible. You get on a list
I'm corruptible, give me, you
say you're corruptible. But the
problem is you're on the list.
And nobody checks like, you
know, these black lists we have
for the website and other things
you can't get you got to go find
what the list is where you're on
that list, and they're not going
to give you the free money.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's lame. I
see. You too bad. So bad for
you. CBS got on the Guardian on
this deal. By
Unknown: the White House today
shows that every corner of the
country is being impacted by
climate change. That's just one
of the findings in a new
national climate assessment. The
first one in five years. CBS has
been Tracy reports on the dire
warnings in our continuing
series on the planet.
stronger storms, devastating
drought, heat waves and
wildfires. Yeah, the new
National Climate Assessment says
the effects of climate change in
the US are now far reaching and
worsening.
It's affecting Americans right
now no matter where they live.
Climate scientists
Kate Marvell worked on the
assessment. Are we running out
of time to avoid the worst
impacts of climate change?
We are the last generation that
is really going to be able to
make a meaningful difference in
the in the
US there is now a billion dollar
weather disaster on average
every three weeks every year to
three per year in the 1980's,
costing $150 billion dollars.
The report says us greenhouse
gas emissions mainly from the
burning of fossil fuels are
falling, but not quickly enough.
Yet wind and solar power are
John C Dvorak: yes, if they're
falling, they're not going to
co2 numbers all of a sudden to
highest in history, and going up
and not seeming to stop at all
just not enough. So in other
words, fossil fuels got nothing
to do with the co2. Is that what
he's saying? Because that's
contradicting what we just
heard. It's not enough.
Adam Curry: All you need to hear
is it's not enough you're not
doing enough. You need carbon
credits to offset your being
Unknown: burned says us
greenhouse gas emissions mainly
from the burning of fossil fuels
are falling, but not quickly
enough. Yet wind and solar power
are rapidly expanding now
cheaper than burning coal.
Very much in human hands. And
our choices are really going to
determine how hot it's gonna get
in the future.
Now scientists say we just live
through the hottest 12 months
and at least 125,000 years. That
should give us a sense of
urgency about cutting our planet
warming emissions,
John C Dvorak: and we want to
get the extra 25,000 years it's
the White House
Adam Curry: and the White House
is better is better than the
IPCC and they
John C Dvorak: said she she said
100,000 25,000 eyes are better.
We have any documentation for
the temperatures 50,000 years
ago.
Adam Curry: Look at this chart.
Look at this graph. It's to the
right and up what's a hockey
stick? What is wrong with you?
What is you know, it's lucky on
a podcast because we D platform
you if you were posting any of
this nonsense on x the funniest
thing that happened this is
really the funniest. So Greta
Thun Bay, relative Mary who,
amazingly still looks 15 Even
though she's I think she's legal
to drink. I
John C Dvorak: think she's like
23 She's up there.
Adam Curry: Look it up. Now
she's probably 20 She's an
Amsterdam. And and so this is a
climate rally. And she starts
talking about Palestine. Which
is odd. No cheese, because you
know, she's a for hire money.
John C Dvorak: She's 20
Adam Curry: She's a protester
for hire.
John C Dvorak: So she, by the
way, is going to be forever a
kid because she's 411
Adam Curry: Really? Yep. Troll.
So she's at this climate rally.
John C Dvorak: And we'll tell
her then Yellin
Adam Curry: You never see him in
the same picture. Do you see
that the climate rally in
Amsterdam, um, she's spouting
off about Palestine. And then
some dude comes up and says,
Hey, I'm here for climate
protest, not for your political
crap. And then and then a whole
bunch of kids and kids he is bum
rush the guy you know he grabs
the mic. He grabs the mic from
Greta. She grabs it back she's
like calm down. And then she
goes into the slogan which is
just baffling. I will narrate
your listening the people in
power have not been listening
for demonstration of political
grabs the mic
wait for the new slogan. The
crowd starts the slogan and
Greta joins.
No climate justice on occupied
land. Explain to me what that
means.
John C Dvorak: No climate
justice on occupied lands. I
have Debt Debt is a battler and
their chances, but they're all
chanting so it must have some
meaning to them. Well,
Adam Curry: so you can't have
climate justice and it's the
plural, singular on occupied
lands. So they're talking about
Palestine. No climate. No.
John C Dvorak: We hate all Jews
is what they could have been
chanting. We hate all Jews.
That's what they should have
said. The same cadence.
Adam Curry: No, you need more
though. It's not the same
cadence. It's not incredible
what's going on in the world? It
is outrageous. I really have no
idea what they're talking about.
They're just throwing these I
John C Dvorak: know, no climate
Adam Curry: justice on occupied
lands. It's fantastic. By the
John C Dvorak: way, God does not
occupy I mean, it's it's self
sufficient to operationalize so
Adam Curry: good. Then the last
thing I'll have in the climate
just because it's it's kind of
it's related to climate change
in multiple ways, is this
protest has been going on down
in Panama. And you know, Sir
Mark, has a has a place there
and he's peaceful as half B's
half Panamanian voids zero. No,
no, no. Mark Hall, the art film
director Omar are the film or
film guy. So he's been cluing me
into this. He said these
protests are pretty wild. What's
going on to the whole country is
protesting. And it's about a
copper mine, which is
interesting, because we know
that something's up with copper
in insofar as that copper mines
are not opening, some of them
are closing, there are estimates
that we will have nowhere near
enough copper to satisfy the
needs of the incredible electric
vehicles that will be mandated
across rejected price up works
well. Well, it's going to be
jacked to high heaven and so I
found a report which is a local
report but at least it gives us
some insight this is it the same
and that kind of relates to
climate because here in America,
we saw the this guy shoot to
protesters and Cold Blood killed
them. And and they were deemed
climate protesters but they're
not climate protesters. These
are Panamanians who are sick and
tired of their governments
selling them out like the Panama
Canal. And they don't want to
repeat of you know what happened
with that and with Noriega, and
they don't want that they don't
they want their country to be
controlled and the money to go
to them, and there's all kinds
of shenanigans going on. Listen
to that horn. Panama
Unknown: is on fire. Massive
protests are rippling across the
country. roadblocks, unions on
strike, school and university
classes canceled. workers,
teachers, indigenous groups are
in the streets. They're
protesting the government's
approval of a renegotiated
contract with the Canadian
mining firm for the operation of
central America's largest open
pit copper mine. It's a massive
land concession almost the size
of the city of Miami. They say
it's a handout to a foreign
company and attack on Panama
sovereignty and a threat to the
environment. The people in the
streets say they will not back
down. They have just one demand,
revoke the new contract. The
copper mine is run by Canada's
first quantum minerals with
investors including the Chinese
state, the US Capital Group,
fidelity Vanguard, and BlackRock
among others. It has been in
production since 2019 and
extracting 300,000 tons of
copper a year. But two years
ago, Panama Supreme Court ruled
that the state contract with the
mind was unconstitutional
because it did not serve the
public good. The contract was
renegotiated. This one
government officials said was a
huge improvement, offering
windfall profits for the state.
Last week, it was fast tracked
through Congress and signed into
law by the President. But not
without resistance. The
government has celebrated the
new mining contract he guessed
they say it's a huge win for the
country that will save 40,000
direct and indirect jobs and
provide sizeable profits from
mining royalties to the state.
In an effort to appease the
growing unrest President
Florentino cortizo spoke to the
country on Tuesday and announced
that by next month his
government would be using these
funds to lift pensions for
retirees to a minimum of $350 a
month. 75% rise over the current
minimum, but it only fueled the
fire in the streets. Most
Panamanian saw the proposed
measure as an attempt to buy off
retirees, while ignoring the
central demand of the protest,
roads and major portions of the
Pan American highway remain
blocked across the country. This
sentiment that the contract is
an attack on Panamanian
sovereignty runs deep and it's
an important reason why the
protests have gained so much
traction. Political analysts say
that in order to truly
understand why so much of the
population is against this
mining contract, you have to
look to the past
Adam Curry: good we've covered
it I don't know if we can do
anything else about it. Well, I
John C Dvorak: like to look to
the past well
Adam Curry: the past is that
then they go into the Panama
Canal and and how that was you
know, I don't think Panama owns
the Panama Canal
John C Dvorak: pretty sure they
don't know it's called the Canal
Zone is is a separate entity
exact amount of ownership as a
matter of sovereignty they don't
have any sovereignty over
Adam Curry: the whole country is
pretty pissed.
John C Dvorak: This thing was a
little late for that. They shut
the whole country pissed earlier
now sudden they're pissed that
means those agitators that are
making this happen. Oh, and I
would say Marxists. Oh probably
will
Adam Curry: probably probably
Yeah. Anymore
John C Dvorak: can kind of go
step by the I'm still befuddled.
In fact, by the Reddit Thun berg
Adam Curry: is horrible, isn't
it? No climate justice
unoccupied land. nuke the polar
bear. I mean, what are you going
to say we got we got to do
something here.
John C Dvorak: I haven't asked
Adam before we get to our break.
Adam Curry: Oh well good. I'm
excited about that. That
John C Dvorak: did questions
answered right at the beginning.
But let
Adam Curry: me play the new and
updated ask Adam jingle their
answer the question go. I like
it.
John C Dvorak: I like it. Yeah,
doing my answer the question go
right. Mark Levin. All right. So
Adam Curry: what is the
question? Who
John C Dvorak: controls 70% of
the diamond trade industry that
do trade in diamonds is
controlled by one country? Yes.
But to the tune of 70%? If you
don't know the answer to this
question just offhand, which I
I'd be surprised you'll never
get it.
Adam Curry: I am going to think
about this who controls the
diamonds Oh
John C Dvorak: look it up
Adam Curry: I'm not I'm not
doing I'm in fact I have my eyes
closed. I promise you. I am
going to say answer the question
go. I'm going to say the
Netherlands with DeBeers mining
do I get to play the clip now?
Unknown: Go Russian diamonds
account for 70% of global
diamond jewelry demand. She's a
Russian. Yep. Major Western
jewelers from Tiffany's to
Cartier has been keen to
distance themselves from
Russia's lucrative diamond
trade. But a big hurdle is how
to trace the origin of the
stones. Some companies will
struggle this is to gun Taft. We
can do it because we have we've
been working on traceability for
the last two years. You should
know that people we've been
working with with big brands.
Traceability is not something
that's that comes out of the sky
as of now. All the new player
the players in in the industry
who have not yet started
restricts ability are going to
lag behind for sure.
He said that not only would a
full Western ban on Russian gems
be costly for the industry. It
could also take another year to
fully implement.
Adam Curry: Oh man,
John C Dvorak: I didn't rush to
take over the business under
right beneath our noses. Nobody
knows about I was stunned by
this. I would have guessed
Belgium. Holland. Yeah. Right.
Belgium would have been good.
Yeah. If they said China, I
would not have been surprised.
Adam Curry: No, no. Wow, the
more you know, I just got a text
message I'd like to share with
you.
John C Dvorak: Friend You guys
suck. Get off the air.
Adam Curry: Quite friend. It's
Kamala. How do you take your
coffee cream and sugar black?
I'm asking because we're
offering an all expenses paid
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John C Dvorak: How does they
this is the same group that did
Hillary stuff back in 2016.
Yeah, I know this particular
promotion yes chip in and it's
always to chip in and you'll get
on this and then they pick
somebody out of a hat and
supposedly have dinner or lunch
or something with them. It's
somewhere in there it has to be
a disclaimer because this is an
illegal lottery unless they
allow you to put your name into
the hat without chipping in a
nickel.
Adam Curry: Let me click on the
link let me see it is act blue
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rules bah bah bah I'm not a
federal contract I have my own
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November five Yep. Well why
don't we do this as a promotion?
Hey friend, would you like to
have coffee with Ben with Adam
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perfect. And with that I'd like
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John C Dvorak: nail in the
morning you Mr. Adam curry also
in the morning your ships and
sea boots on the ground sitting
in the air subsidy watering
nights out there and
Adam Curry: in the morning. The
trolls and the troll room.
Trolls Good to see the
whatever's left
if I subtract Janet Yellen and
Greta tune Barry, we got what do
we have? 1721. Down Down. Trolls
are deserted
John C Dvorak: by a good 100
people.
Adam Curry: Yeah, trolls that
people trolls? Yeah. You know
why is because of my hate of
memes. And?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
it's you.
Adam Curry: It's just me. Is
that where you go ahead?
John C Dvorak: Yes, you hated
me. Nobody cares.
Adam Curry: It has nothing to do
with the fact that we won't take
a side won't pick a side. You
got to pick a side. You've got
to denounce genocide because
John C Dvorak: I'll pick I'm
gonna pick a side right now. All
right. I think I think spinach
with the cream sauce would be
good. That's a good site I've
always liked it is as good as
steak Steakhouse. And
Adam Curry: what's so sad is
that even our people are spun
up. And they think they have to
pick a side. And if you end they
don't understand that they're
being abused by political
parties who want you to vote
against the people who pick the
wrong side. They don't care
about anything else. They don't
care. They don't care about you.
We barely care about you. We a
little bit.
John C Dvorak: We care a lot
about them. As you mentioned
you'd like even the rotunda?
Yes, of people in the
especially.
Adam Curry: Yes, of course, we
love our producers. That's why
we call them producers, not
fans, or listeners, or listeners
or data or numbers to sell to an
advertiser. The advertiser none
of that, in fact, we only call
these people trolls because we
allow you to go crazy and troll
in an ephemeral place to a point
with nobody, you can't even get
in trouble. Like it goes away
you troll and you're done. It's
like, and it makes you it's
actually it is good for mine.
Look at some of my terms here.
This is a good mental health
experience. To be in the troll
room. And to just go I mean,
that's it's a good mental health
experience because you won't get
in trouble. You don't have to
use your registered Nikki Haley
name. You know, you can just
call whatever you want. You
know, and it's not going to bug
me because it scrolls off. You
do it on no agenda, socially a
different story. You can follow
Adam and no agenda social.com
Jhansi Dvorak on your case there
Oh yeah. be doing the troll room
you golden troll room.io is
where you can join or get a
modern podcast app at podcast
apps.com where you can listen to
the live stream and many of them
depending on your platform will
alert you when we go live with
the with a live stream you can
troll along you can listen to no
agenda stream.com I mean we
offer the full size full
spectrum of troll ability and we
encourage it is good is good for
you. Then everything else where
you post something and respond
to something and start a new
thread is not good for your it's
not a good mental health
experience. And don't do that.
Do it here come to the troll
room patrol to your heart's
content to troll others yellow
people call them names. It's
perfectly okay. It's only a
couple of things. You can't be
can't like flood post. You can't
do anything else. But you know,
just do it. It's good. You'll
love it and we We've been doing
this now for 16 years. We're
very happy I did an interview
the other day an interview with
Forbes. We'll see if it makes it
in.
John C Dvorak: What did you do?
Let's explain. No, they
Adam Curry: asked me to talk
about value for value. I said,
Well, let me tell you how it
works. Let me tell you what we
did when we tell you our story.
No agenda. Adam, Adam curry,
Jhansi, Dvorak, 16 years value
for value. We said you liked
this value, send us some value
back. Wow, really? That's
awesome. Yes. Awesome.
John C Dvorak: You got called by
Forbes writer is obviously
thinking of doing a podcast.
Adam Curry: Aren't they all?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they
call you they gotta get some
tips. He's looking for help.
Actually,
Adam Curry: this guy was nice.
He's just getting out of the
military. He has three kids. He
wants to move back to Texas. And
Forbes picked him up as a
writer. So now, I hope that he
that he makes it through the
John C Dvorak: desert. What was
the point of the article?
Adam Curry: Open Source and
value for value? Open Source?
Yeah, like Mastodon, that kind
of value
John C Dvorak: for value. Yeah.
It's a pretty solid boring. As
far as hope you'd live ended up.
Adam Curry: I said where I was
with a guy like Jhansi. Dvorak
have a gig in media. Come on.
This is good stuff. Both of us
actually, to be fair about it. I
did also did an interview with
The Canary Cry talk news, guys.
I'm on the interview path. I'm
promoting our show again. I'm
back out
John C Dvorak: on the road. And
I'm good with it. Yeah, but
you're good at it. And you're a
handsome man. That's what makes
it work.
Adam Curry: And I love showing
my new teeth. That's the best.
That's rich. Oh, man. I just
love him. I love him. Because
John C Dvorak: you're on video.
Is that what you're telling me?
Yeah. A canary in a coal mine?
Yes. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they do. A lot of a
lot of everyone does video was
like, why are you doing video
man is a pain in the butt. It's
John C Dvorak: a total pain in
the butt cost money. Yep. And it
does get and you obviously are
going to have your own
infrastructure. So in this shot,
well, maybe I mean, you could
probably hold on their pitch
shoot, or oh,
Adam Curry: oh, oh, this is the
most exciting one. On Wednesday,
I will be interviewed by the
founder and CEO. I already have
Bridey on
John C Dvorak: the founder and
CEO of Bridey. On Yes. I know.
Adam Curry: Right.
John C Dvorak: Is he What is he
as a podcaster?
Adam Curry: Well, let me see him
in look at the email here for a
second.
John C Dvorak: I mean, it seems
that a CEO should be a CEO.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but he does a
podcast also about I can't I'm
looking for it now. I thought I
had it in my Yeah. Well, he does
interviews with the with people
who are you know, like a free
speech? Free speech. Free
speech? I can hear you're
baffled.
John C Dvorak: I'm kind of Yeah.
Is he Pete Santilli? No,
Adam Curry: no, no, let me look.
Let me see Bridey on let me let
me find this email. Mike Adams
is on Bridey on Yeah. Yeah,
that's right. And he's he's
about as free speech as you can
get. He's been interviewed by
him. Gosh. Well, that's
interesting. I thought I had
saved this in my bookings
folder. I hope they email me
with details. But yeah, it's
here is Oh, it is actually it is
Mike Adams. You're
John C Dvorak: going to be
interviewed by Mike Adams. Yes.
Adam Curry: I think he's the
founder and CEO here. That's the
natural
John C Dvorak: news guy right
there. My
Adam Curry: name is saili. I'm
thrilled to connect with you on
behalf of Mike Adams, founder of
bright young.com A free speech
platform. Mike has just launched
a show called decentralized TV,
where he delves into the realms
of defy daps and the tangible
impact of technology on
humanity, championing privacy
and decentralization. And at
first, I thought this was one of
those things we have to pay. But
they actually say, our show to
him. What's even more enticing
is that we're not seeking
anything from you other than
your valuable time.
John C Dvorak: So it is that's
interesting, you know, no one
ever puts that in there unless
they normally charge. So
Adam Curry: maybe he's going to
do the interview. And then he
says, now do you want me to post
this? You got to pay me would
that what he's doing? That would
be funny. Oh, that would be
funny. I'm gonna run a recording
next to this just in
John C Dvorak: case. Yeah, you
should definitely record it.
Adam Curry: I like white like in
the chat room. Curry. That's
great. You'll get at least
another 15 More people listening
to the show,
John C Dvorak: I guess in 10
years.
Adam Curry: Hey man, I'm taking
it all I'm just trying to help
out the show.
John C Dvorak: We know I think
you shouldn't do it but we're
losing P O er because we're we
always lose people we lost
people during the Codex Vax
COVID thing and you know in
their current curiously most of
them are dead and then you're
horrible and then we lose the
last people and no Ukraine war
we lost
Adam Curry: a lot lost a lot
Ukraine war
John C Dvorak: because remember
sights on that Do you remember
how
Adam Curry: furious people were?
I can't believe this is this is
genocide of the Ukrainian people
you're carrying water for Putin
You're horrible you're running
water but I can't believe you I
can't believe that you you're
just laughing about children and
babies being killed we do
John C Dvorak: is deconstruct
news. I mean, what is what's
what's what's to complain about?
Adam Curry: I think it's the
laughing that people don't like.
John C Dvorak: I you know,
people need to get it. Loosen
up.
Adam Curry: I'm with you.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we do laugh
probably at things, you know,
but we're not laughing at the
day. We're not laughing at Dead
Ukrainians. No, no, we're
laughing at the stupidity of the
news media and the people who
lap it up. And then people will
lap it up like like an parrot it
Yeah. lap, lap lap and then they
you know, off they go
Adam Curry: lap lap lap and off
they go okay. It's it is your
slogan lap lap lap and off you
go. So as a part of the value
for value proposition, which I
guess we'll be talking to Mike
Adams about
John C Dvorak: hey, man, what is
the same Mike Adams? I
Adam Curry: think it is.
John C Dvorak: I think I don't
know if that it is there's the
problem with the name Mike Adams
is there are a lot of Mike Adams
in the in the foam. There's like
it's like, you know, Adam curry.
There's too many of them.
Adam Curry: You know, all the
other atom curries are black.
John C Dvorak: Yet? Well, that's
the funny thing of it, isn't it?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a
lot of them. How
Adam Curry: do you know? Is
there an Adam curry convention I
missed?
John C Dvorak: They probably
should be.
Adam Curry: Artists are part of
our time, talent and treasure
value for value mechanism, which
we appreciate because these
pieces of artwork do very well
for the show. People like to
comment on them people like to
fight over them. People like to
put it on T shirts, hats, mugs,
cozies and other paraphernalia,
which is all run and organized
by a non affiliated group called
no agenda shop. No agenda
shop.com They make a donation
from time to time we love the
whole idea of y'all y'all. Just
owning it all and doing it all.
All we want to do is just do the
show. We just want to do the
show deconstruct the media and
we don't even talk to each other
outside of the show. We have
nothing to say to each other.
Nothing. Although Tina is always
a little irked just after the
show you guys are always
laughing it up. You're giggling
your God and giggling after the
show. But that's usually because
we're
John C Dvorak: looking at this
is women jealousy they don't
like they don't like approach.
Mimi says Mimi what was Mimi's
comment? She says, you know you
were too happy on the last show.
What are you talking about?
She's you are just like, Yo,
you're all Jedi on the show.
Like, you know, I sent my med
two cups of coffee is I don't
know and she's good grouse about
it.
Adam Curry: She was unhappy
because of we were talking
laughing but we were happy about
death. Is that what it is?
Again? No,
John C Dvorak: I just have no
idea. We're not happy about
death. By the way.
Adam Curry: I think you nailed
her voice. That was so close to
exactly. I'm
John C Dvorak: not supposed to
use that voice for her. I chose
to use you change it. Boy, you
were too happy. She agreed that
I could do that voice for her.
Adam Curry: I'd like the other
one. I have my opening clip. So
let us thank the artists who
brought us the artwork for
episode 1607 incorrectly listed
as 1707 in our intro and
incorrectly posted a 1606 but we
fix it all most of it. Sorry
about that. I'm getting older
mistakes creeping up could have
guessed if you're an artist that
we would like to do something
for our veterans on Veterans Day
many of you nailed it. correct
the record completely got it and
brought us a nice piece of
artwork with no agenda with a
salute there with the flag. And
thank you vets was really what
what took it over the top for
us.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that was
that little cut little thing and
there was other good art about
vets. There was a thank you very
little ditty Yeah, cuz this was
kind of a one dimensional piece.
It wasn't like anything that was
outrageously artsy.
Adam Curry: No, by no stretch of
the imagination, actually.
Right.
John C Dvorak: It was click
Clean and it had the thank you
on there and it was did the
trick.
Adam Curry: We we For an
interesting week, the comics or
Blogger had a complete AI piece
which I think I actually found
myself voting for a little bit.
For my life or two, I
John C Dvorak: thought it was
quite nice. And then we just
Adam Curry: Nix it under the AI
rule.
John C Dvorak: Can I think half
the stuff on here is AI Yeah,
Adam Curry: but we're in AI hell
John C Dvorak: we knew about it.
Let me see wow, like Cape
themselves are using it. A lot
came
Adam Curry: in after the fact.
Which is really a shame. Why was
gaming
John C Dvorak: after the film?
Look at the list, man. I'm
looking at it now.
Adam Curry: I mean, I don't
remember meme and a can. I do
you do.
John C Dvorak: I like to me
minicam that came through the
only one that that showed up
late and far as I can remember
is the dog which I use for the
newsletter, which is the good
news. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah, you don't
Okay. Yeah, maybe it's just my
my memory shot yet
John C Dvorak: when definitely
came in after the fact. There
Adam Curry: were lots of good
pieces here. But we just wanted
to do a veteran's and you know,
and I can tell you right now,
Christmas, New Christmas. All
right. Get with it. Right. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: Christmas is
gonna have a Thanksgiving Day
show which we'd work we always
work on Thanksgiving even though
we get no donations or any even
kudos from anyone for working on
a holiday like Thanksgiving.
I'll be working on working on
Christmas Eve. We will be
working on Thanksgiving. And New
Year's we're going to post that
Thanksgiving piece of art
Adam Curry: now. Yes. Yes.
Because we're we're Trad
podcast, trod Trad casters.
John C Dvorak: Now the other
ones I liked. And here I liked a
little kid in the cockpit.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah, I know you'd liked it. But
it wasn't all that great. I just
John C Dvorak: thought it was
cute, stupid Council like the
kissing the capitalist agenda.
gaslit hearts. The two people
with gas masks on trying to
kiss. I have nothing to do with
the show. No, whatsoever.
Adam Curry: I did. It was good,
though.
John C Dvorak: And I thought
that was but I thought it was
cute. Anything else on your
people
Adam Curry: tried to do not
graphs I didn't I didn't work.
That really worked.
John C Dvorak: He has a net
thing. It was a net graph. Who
cares?
Adam Curry: Anyway, thank you
very much to correct the record.
We appreciate it. Good to see
you back on the on the board. I
mean, you're on the board. Isn't
he? Number one. Is he one of the
number No, necessarily.
John C Dvorak: No one may work
his way ahead of everybody. And
I'm
Adam Curry: just looking
already, we've got a lot of
submissions, although possibly
not anything we'll use yet. So
there's plenty of opportunity
for you artists to get in on
this great opportunity to chip
in with your art at no agenda,
art generator.com. You can
always just follow along. If
you're listening to the show
right now take a look at what
we're talking about. Or my buddy
Dred Scott, he uses many of
these pieces as Chapter artwork
in a modern podcast app, which
let's face it, you should be
using because they also update
within 90 seconds of us posting
the show. If you don't use a
modern podcast app, you can be
waiting 90 minutes. And that
includes overcast and Pocket
Casts and Apple more
John C Dvorak: than 90 minutes
some instant so
Adam Curry: yeah, and people are
like, Hey, man, you didn't
upload to Apple. No, it's not
how it works. It's not how it
works. There's no uploading to
Apple. We upload and all the
apps get it but we use pod ping
a very sophisticated system
developed by the geniuses at
podcasting. 2.0 So get them on a
podcast. Now let us thank the
people who sent us some
treasure. It's it's going to be
a busy donation segment. Not not
super amount of donations, I
think what is it? Maybe 15? I
think 16 Yeah. But we do have
some PhDs and of course people
come in with notes that are way
too long. And the unbelievable
amount of jingles they request
but we love you. And we love you
anonymous from Charlotte, North
Carolina with 133 3.33. Nice,
nice value. We appreciate that.
Thank you both for the ongoing
lessons in media deconstruction.
The value is real. For jingles,
let's point out the shameful
giddiness of the warmongers who
disregard human life for profit
and power. All right, let me I
haven't pre pre selected here.
So let me get him ready. Judge
Jeanine bomb them. And we have a
new judge judge Jeanine for that
gratuitous missile launches.
last second. Yes, missile
launchers. machine gun fire.
Okay, we have machine gunfire.
Explosions in the M five M
reporting style. Howard Dean's
creepy scream. Yeah, we have the
Howard Dean scream. And these
follows up anonymous here she
says let don't get spun up by
the war mongers and keep those
amygdala small people love is
lit. In
Unknown: fact, I would say bomb
bomb
Adam Curry: genie and again
Unknown: I would say Buck bomb
Adam Curry: All right. All
right. Let's try not to do radio
plays everybody.
John C Dvorak: Scott Lonnegan
1000 I don't know where he's
from doesn't say jingle seaspan
What we do eat what we do so you
don't have to don't be a denier.
And you see something say
something. Gentlemen, it's been
too long since my last donation,
and I may need a D douching.
You've been D deuced been
listening says show number one.
All right. Favorite part of this
show has come to be when people
were right into tell you they
don't agree with everything you
say. This revelation never fails
to stun me. Congratulations on
the anniversary boys. It also
makes me a Baronet. And I can't
wait to claim my protector at
some time next year with my next
donation. Shout out to Sir Daigo
j and the other governorates in
our small crypto group. Thank
you for your courage your guard
scat to one we do don't have to
disease the sciences in
Adam Curry: a nice little little
combo of us have some jingles.
Thank you. That was cool.
Vasanth ah, de mirage. I'm going
to say parts unknown but he
sounds
John C Dvorak: Indian, probably
Dharma Dharma
Adam Curry: dharma. But it's his
Dharma Raj Dharma Raj Vasanth.
Besides Dharma Raj, my past
donation was so long ago I
forgot how much I left. I have
left to get a knighthood. The
Insta night PhD combo seems like
the best solution for this case.
I would like to be Doctor serve
a South darn Mirage Lord of
Kotlin. All I need is an F
cancer karma. Got it?
Unknown: You've got karma.
Patrick
John C Dvorak: Mick Gergen in
Ness. Copic, Pennsylvania. Hey,
John and Adam. A few months ago,
I requested jobs karma and I
like to report that it works.
This was confirmed when I rented
a new house and the house number
was none other than 33. Please
note me Sir Patrick is the
keeper of Adams. Thank you,
Patrick make Gergen
Adam Curry: nice. And we have a
second anonymous with 1000. And
this is an anonymous secret
Christmas gift. Well, thank you
very much. We appreciate that.
This is we will be put to good
use. We appreciate it. You
John C Dvorak: have the next one
which is I suppose no I don't
lose out my spreadsheet. I can't
read it. Oh
Adam Curry: man. Okay, this is
from Paul a second. Joe long.
Joe Clemens in Anna Texas. 1000.
We'll see. These Texas would
keep it short. The 16 Year
Celebration promotion is great.
The PhD certificate will look
great in my office it's better
than a master's degree in
science. Please note me sir Joe,
protector of the data packets
and all who transport them or if
not available, sir Joe Clements
protector of the data packets
and auto transport that well,
it's the same thing. You're
good. You're good in the past
month have risen from douchebag
to Associate Executive Producer
now with this episode, I'm
elevated to executive producer a
night of the no agenda
roundtable and no agenda scholar
with a PhD. These are
achievements that seems so out
of reach to me before but having
listened since episode one. The
education has been invaluable.
It is now great to have a
tangible representation of
Advanced Studies in media
deconstruction provided over the
years about that. The boss my
boss at my day job shared that
if he wants to know anything
about any conspiracy theories,
I'm the go to guy. I used to
call yourself a conspiracy
therapist that will make
everyone at the office laugh and
I put it on your card. Yeah, I
credit the no agenda show with
educating me and all sides of
each conspiracy theory and
unlike the M five M confirmation
that many of the theories are
actually in practice, so not a
theory anymore. At the
roundtable. I'd like to have
baked beans and rice along with
black rum to drink a chair for
jingle challenge. Oh goodness.
Oh my goodness. I didn't see any
of these. He's asking for a lot
of things here. You can only
have so much with your you can
have the magic number. And it's
no it was so long. I didn't see
it. I'll give you a rebel iser
Okay. Hey rumble iser out where
I'm at number station. Goodness
gracious man. I want to this is
too much. He wants maximum for
he was. He's four. How about
two? He wants a judge Jeanine.
Well, I happen to have that with
a bomb them. And little girl.
Yay. Okay, well, I can do a
little girl. Yeah. All right.
And what does he say here to
wrap it up, he says. Here's a
plug for Natalie's Thanksgiving
run a 5k run on Thanksgiving an
honor of our dear daughter
Natalie, who brighten the lives
of all she touched during her
short 21 years here. It is
organized by her best friends,
best friends and takes place we
used to live in St. Clair,
Michigan. It's a fundraising
event for cystic fibrosis
research, not cyber fibrosis.
Did I say cyber fibrosis in the
past? No, you
John C Dvorak: did not know.
Okay.
Adam Curry: And
link@runsignup.com I'll put the
link in the show notes. I
appreciate all that you've done
provided and inspired over the
16 years it took and look
forward to seeing you at the
roundtable. Oh you bet okay 33
Unknown: Magic the magic number
in the standby 3333 33 or
otherwise are out. In fact I
would say bom bom bom again.
John C Dvorak: chancy Chauncey
Chauncey Parts Unknown. $1,000
take for your courage genser
chance to see that always in the
nether world. Oh, I offered a
formalized education as a no
agenda scholar you provided was
just too good to pass up. I
believe this donation also
brings me up to Baronet status.
No jingles no karma. Keep up the
great work.
Adam Curry: Thank you and the
mayor of Cypress, the mayor of
Cypress Cypress, Texas 1000.
I've been listening since COVID
on a recommendation I don't
remember who you're my only
don't miss show across all media
first donation. You You've been
de Deus. I'm looking forward to
getting my diploma. Thanks the
mayor of Cypress Texas yo he
just might be the actual mayor
of Cypress Texas. Wouldn't
surprise you it might be
John C Dvorak: Mike Dockery or
DHCR II in BC Canada 1000 ITM no
jingles? No karma, but you can
de douche me if it's on Adams
finger.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: it's always on
his finger and it's stinks. I
will catch up along long ago.
It's long associations with both
as our paths have passed as our
pasts should say have passed. So
anyway, my new night name should
be sir. burka dim or or Qaidam
or Qaidam the RCA DM from BC
Mike Dhaka the last name is
spelled is a CRO with a D like
Mike De Carrera is not dacron
eau de thinking about Dacre
Dacre is Mike Dacre. I got it,
Mike Dacre anyway sorry, Mike
Dacre for mispronouncing your
name, but you're up on you'll be
up on the podium in no time.
Adam Curry: Sir. LQT m is in
Niles, Illinois. 634. He says in
the morning, sir el que tem
here. This donation gets me to a
Baronet and a PhD immediate
didn't deconstruction. No, I
don't think it does. No,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't. I
don't know how much I can make
it clear. The meeting the degree
is $1,000 you get bonuses off
the you know, you can get other
things with the $1,000. But it's
not a cumulative thing.
Otherwise it'd be burner up to
our ears and diplomas. It's not
cumulative, you can have $995
sitting around and yet donate
five bucks and get a PhD. No,
it's not how it works. And this
promotion is a simple promotion
is very easy to understand
$1,000 or more and it ends
Adam Curry: on the 330/3 day of
the year, which is next week.
Okay. Thank you meet up
producers for making this
possible. Oh, from the meetup
well, you should have told us a
little bit about which meetup
for the for the worst memes on
the internet. Follow LQTM on no
agenda social wishing the
fattest karma to all you got it.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C Dvorak: and I will put
you on the list and he'll follow
you because actually add him
after the show. He continues he
says I don't know why it was
says I hate memes I was getting
on my nerves you're gonna have
to cover for me. That's what he
says to me. And I said, Oh, I'm
not covering for you. It's
obvious you hate me.
Adam Curry: I don't hate memes
and you can add to Brutus
John C Dvorak: Cindy shakes is
up and she's in Carmel, Indiana.
To the best podcast in the
universe. Thank you for your
courage and keeping me sane. See
you in Indy. Cindy SHEEX
Adam Curry: okay, you missed a
whole bunch there. This is the
the in the NA tribe raffle.
Which was a switcheroo.
John C Dvorak: I'm not reading
the sheet.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. You're
correct. It's too tight Shin
Cindy sheets twice. So that was
the 367. You're right, I'm
wrong. And below that is the no
agenda indie tribe with a
switcheroo for Cindy sheiks.
Look at that. Yeah. This is the
raffle switcheroo thank you for
the continued wisdom and
unparalleled media
deconstruction shout out to Sir
Andrew of karma lat for hitting
me in the mouth in January 2020.
Without him and no agenda. I
hate to think where I'd be
today. Your tireless pursuit of
the truth and breakdown of the M
five M narratives has helped so
many people wake up to the BS
being pumped out 24/7 When I say
thank you for keeping me sane I
mean it from the bottom of my
heart. With this donation I will
reach Dame hood and would like
to be deemed Cindy of the Tito's
you guys are the best. I pray
you never find an exit strategy.
Well, it won't be making memes
that's for sure. That's
John C Dvorak: for sure. Isaac
Contreras in Chula Vista
California greetings bows in
reverence no need to bow this
donation makes me a knight and
earns me a PhD again no you
don't do 60 is not night is not
the PhD level it's $1,000
period. I like to be known as
cert doctor why you can be known
as this anyway sir doctor. I
have the beautiful view and I
like Philippe B's cheese pizza
and some beer. But he's specific
Bear NO, make it some Texas
beer. Much love and respect to
you both and Hari Krishna.
Adam Curry: Hari Krishna to you.
Then we have Sorry Sorry, Sir
Jeff of the five seasons from
Weed California. Associate
Executive Producer with a row of
ducks. Two two 2.2 to switch a
roo birthday donation for Peter
Karnowski. To go on and do this
right now. Peter Karnowski
switcheroo has been entered to
go towards your knighthood from
Sir Jeff for the five seasons
and is deemed to be what a
beautiful birthday gift How
nice. It
John C Dvorak: is nice. Suni
rose to 1230 and she's in
Maricopa of all places Arizona
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should know how to pronounce it
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Adam Curry: I'm going to skip
the next one and do the last
one. Was that a note that we had
from no that's not the note that
we had. No
John C Dvorak: he got no note. I
just read the next one. Okay,
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people have written me asking me
is this is this woman for real?
I said Is she any good? And I
say I don't know. I don't know.
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Adam Curry: code bonci No. Job
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Daniel King, our final Associate
Executive producer from Santa
Rosa, California. $200. No note
that gives you a double of
karma. Thank you very much. We
appreciate it.
Unknown: You Scott.
Adam Curry: I'm looking and
we're at John Doe is going to
take us through to the 50s and
of course we appreciate our
executive and Associate
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Also, your LinkedIn profile your
resume, but I see here business
cards business cards. Yes. I see
Forrest Tucker coming in with
two donation. He gets bumped up
to their producer. I think he
does you want to read his note
there? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: Missouri
disability came in at $172.30
and $160.70, which rounds out to
340. So and 10 cents or
something, working to pay back
some of the value I've received
from the show over the years to
he says to Jamestown donations
in Honor show 1607 Who's got
172 30 and one six is 1607.
Okay, and the town's 400 and
16th year, plus 11. Six equals
3331. Okay, he's one of the he's
a numerologist. I think, Wow. He
wants to Reverend Allen and
climate gate. And eventually he
wants us to play that knee more
climate clip that's too long to
play right now. But we will play
it again shortly. I have some
claim but not today's show. But
keep an eye out because I got to
some terrific stuff from the 80s
that backs up the DSD global
cooling nonsense. And
Adam Curry: he says Dr. Spock
was right. ESP ICT to the to the
to the climate.
Yes, we've been at this game for
a long
John C Dvorak: time. And it was
Mr. Spock, for your information.
That's correct.
Adam Curry: It was Dr. McCoy and
Mr. Spock. This is that's a good
point. John. You make a good
point. Lydia
John C Dvorak: Terry McNally in
Rochester New Hampshire. 158 Jim
Carlson in Denver, Colorado 135.
And he does have a long note.
You might want to see if there's
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read Lucas Williams in Roswell.
I are buddies in Roswell, New
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think he's the one who sent it
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because it was loose 20s in a
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that box had spaces where the
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money $1,000 in there for all I
know. No. It was very poorly
done. It could have put it in an
envelope. There's a lot of
things that could have and then
taped it to the inside. So that
was I consider that to be
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Adam Curry: This is his son
Joseph 13th. Birthday. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Steve Steeler
Grom all in steubenville ohio.
We got my Ohio stupid they did a
special on stupid Ville on the
on PBS. It was quite
interesting. Except for one part
I didn't get the clip of the guy
could do it back to find it I
just gave up. They're doing this
clip as Judy's visiting stuben
Ville and they got all these
poor people in Steubenville.
They can't get work in the steel
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say, well, let's go have a beer.
So, Judy goes has a beer says
what are you having? I've never
seen this on this PBS NewsHour.
What are you having? I'm having
a Bud Light. No. Okay, I'll have
a Bud Light to
Adam Curry: wow. Wow, that's
crazy. And
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
how much they got paid to do
that. As I know Anheuser Busch
is on the brand page about
reversing their fortunes.
Adam Curry: He says he needs to
deduce.
Unknown: You've been de deuced.
John C Dvorak: His name is
Stiegler and like that. We wrap
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Congratulations on the brand new
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we do have quite a list here
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Unknown: don't want to be
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Adam Curry: and we have several
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Congratulations from everybody
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Welcome to the roundtable you
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what
yeah, baby. We got lots of
meetups to talk about and lots
of meetup reports kicking it off
with the Indianapolis indie
group.
Unknown: This is Mark This is
lonely. Yeah.
Brittany Shavers Zionsville.
Indiana Bryan's bill. Okay sir
Benny in the morning Dame Swanee
Emily the Fed down fed Bruce
blessing file from Zionsville
just scary. Cindy from Carmel.
So Craig is the Darkmoon Amy
from Westfield judge Nick here.
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Chloe. Alicia in the morning
from
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favorite bar with my favorite
people there is the torah
following on finger number one
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community
Adam Curry: that's right, the
keeper and I will be there
December 4 Looking forward to it
here is Fredericksburg,
Virginia. This was Tom and Alex
and man they put together a
great group hello
Unknown: its friends giving in
Fredericksburg and we're here
with melodious sounds the
bartender
we're here in Fredericksburg,
Virginia where we don't need a
doctrine. crisper
from King George.
This is Roseland part of blonde
squad plus Trisha in the morning
in the morning this is Dame
trail chicken living on the
offensive and life is a scam.
This is Rob from Richmond in the
morning. This is Stephanie from
Chesterfield in the morning,
this JC from cole pepper but
most people call me douchebag
asylum, Afghan boys ITM. This is
Dana the triangle ITM. This is
Sarah ITM. This is Kelly from
Culpepper, Virginia.
Oh in the morning, Dustin spooky
douchebag had a great time here.
A lot of good people recommended
going to one
in the morning. This is Matt
also a douchebag had a great
time. Thanks for everything guys
in
the morning. It's the Baron of
masa ponics here with the Best
Bartender in the world Tom
circle at Red Dragon brewery,
thank you for your courage.
Hey, Joe, where's Hunter? Does
you still have your checkbook
Adam Curry: man, I mean we are
we are changing the economics of
places. I mean that was a huge
group and I bet you they were
drinking. It was kind of
apparent in the Netherlands a
bear handle so over here like
from the meetup in back and
those people are a bit shy today
but we're having fun in the
morning escaped slave MPC throne
room here. Nice time in the
morning. This was a very nice
evening again, thanks for all
Unknown: in the morning please
tune into Cafe belts Metz.
Hello, this is Sarah while you
come now from the UK and I have
gone now My name is Stephanie
and I like it here
in the morning. A farmer from
the south of the Netherlands.
Hello Adam. He has a very nice
meeting in the morning with my
human research no human resource
video deconstruction the morning
or maybe 20 x.com 20x Two
Adam Curry: Oh, I love it
abusing human resources from
coast to coast and all over the
world. Good job. Fantastic.
Final Report from a Broomfield
kilo
Unknown: echo zero India
November X ray. Is a 10 meter
ready going crazy or is it just
me? That's gone crazy.
Do you know agenda busca Buke
Yo,
this is Jim from Denver in the
morning. Tea dome from Elizabeth
happy to be here to surprise
Colorado Carebear on her
birthday, Sydney so
if you're from Colorado,
Canberra celebrating my 50th
This is sir are and in the
future we will be in a warmer
setting for our meetups.
This is Jill and I am Colorado
Carebears. personal chauffeur
and surprise planner. This is
Josh the Simpson from Aurora,
Colorado in the morning.
Colorado
Adam Curry: meetup out. All
right, Colorado meetup. So what
you can tell here is that the no
agenda show is not just a
podcast, it's a community. It's
a big community. It's a
worldwide community. And these
people, I mean, I wish I could
show you the pictures but we're
never going to do video. They
are as diverse as you can
imagine. They probably might not
just you start talking to each
other in a Rando bar. But when
they get together and as they
you give each other a little in
the morning in the morning, in
the morning. Yeah, that's when
that's when friendships formed.
That's when connection takes
place. And as you know,
connection is protection and you
can witness it for yourself
today. The pre Thanksgiving
tailgate in Nashville,
Nashville, Tennessee, a tailgate
brewery, the North Georgia
monthly meet up at six today
cherish the brewing Alpharetta,
Georgia Charlotte's thirsty
Third Thursday monthly meet up
meet up seven o'clock tonight
edge tavern Charlotte, North
Carolina this is all today.
Tomorrow the central Ohio meet
up at five o'clock at Dempsey's
in Columbus. Also on Friday, the
New Haven nicotine addicts meet
up eight o'clock at the owl shop
and New Haven Connecticut. The
Fort Wayne this is for Saturday,
the Fort Wayne Bluffton Auburn.
Bosco red club 33 meetup Xenos
Italian eatery, Fort Wayne,
Indiana in the morning Richmond
one o'clock on Saturday, the
center of universe Brewing
Company Ashland, Virginia, and
of course the big extravaganza
the no agenda local 512 Kicking
off one o'clock at duck's back
yard Austin Sunset Valley Texas,
Mr. Barron Scott of The no
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will be there along with the
keeper. Also on Saturday snack
at chat. World War Three refuge
can't meet up in Oklahoma at
chicken and pickle Oklahoma City
and the sunset till you drop it
two o'clock in San Francisco at
the sunset reservoir Brewing
Company. The Red 33 Red 33
Boston Scorpio season at Boston
Maza two shits. Okay, certainly
Nathan Lee Miller is organizing
I think you have to contact for
the location. Arlington Virginia
getting together lion Hall at
five o'clock on Saturday. The
spot the spook five o'clock meet
up in dreamland barbecue
Huntsville, Alabama, and the
sevens northwest Houston meetup
kicks off at 530 at week
Wakefield crowbar in Houston,
Texas. That's just a few of the
meetups that are coming up
between now and the next show.
Go to no agenda meetups.com If
you can't find one near you
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Unknown: you want to go hang out
with Dyson days. You'd be
triggered you'd have to be buddy
feels the same. It's like
Adam Curry: a lot of blood of
housekeeping there but I was a
big one but I love it. I love
that we have I mean we You
haven't the producers have no
agenda have just created this.
This this this thing that is
it's bigger than the podcast
it's it's really lovely
sometimes it's just how could
How is it possible that this
happened it's the value for
value model soon to be talked
about on Bridey on with Mike
Adams. Tune in ISOs I have a
number of how are you on ISOs
today I
John C Dvorak: got three do my
abdomen to do my I'm gonna
voluntarily do mind first wow
Adam Curry: okay you must not
have much faith in them
John C Dvorak: no I got these
are dynamite okay. Okay first I
got to Creighton so nasty
Adam Curry: and personal and
brutal and unfair and mean you
know that's too long
John C Dvorak: then I have a
clip from the protests in San
Francisco. I saw it this is
called the yay die
Adam Curry: Okay, not bad not
bad.
John C Dvorak: I know what it
means but there it isn't I have
Wow didn't have last I got wow
good one wow that's a good one.
Adam Curry: Okay, well these are
these are not all that bad. Let
me see what I have. I have a
similar ones like okay,
Unknown: I have a really nice
combination.
Adam Curry: I have this ministry
met like this one that is some
kind of crazy and this I think
is the winner. What's a load of
crap come on that's good. What's
a load of crap there's nothing
like a crap like that. Yeah,
crap crap load of crap Come on.
That's crap. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: have to go along
with that one too is
Adam Curry: the winner so winner
man is just a winner. Let me see
where we at you if you want to
play us out with one fun clip we
did not receive a good news of
the of the week. Jingle from
anybody.
John C Dvorak: So no, not yet. I
actually there was one that
somebody suggested but it was a
song somebody else did. That was
illegal to use. So good rejected
it out of hand. But I do have
one good news clip. You guys.
I'm been assigned my assignment.
Yes, yes. Yes. Good news is a
pretty good one. This again
comes from Colorado. Colorado
Springs, Colorado. The
Adam Curry: local channel 11.
John C Dvorak: Channel 11 is a
stunner. I'm looking for
Adam Curry: it. And I'm not sure
what I'm supposed to play here.
Oh, good news. Good news.
percent
Unknown: of women give birth on
the exact day their do. Most
babies arrive within a week or
so of their expected due date
either a little early or a
little late. A limited family is
pretty happy. Their little
bundle of joy decided to come a
week early. Because there's
something about the day Tegan
Webber was born that makes her
birthday a little extra special.
To me. Kurzman has the story. A
good story. Tegan gene whever is
full of surprises. She was seven
pounds three ounces when she was
born. Surprise number one. Her
mom was pretty confident Tegan
was a boy. I was so sure she's
super positive surprise number
two. Miss Tegan decided to make
her grand entrance. On a pretty
special day. She shares a
birthday with me and my mom.
Tegan was born on October 23.
Just like her mom and her mom's
mom. I
was very surprised. Yes,
blessed. Very blessed. I thought
it was a possibility. But never
in a million years. I thought
that would be really cool if she
would be born on my birthday.
And my daughter Valerie's
birthday. God blessed us. Wanda
and Valerie have always
celebrated their birthday
together. Now the party has
grown. Three generations of
birthday girls person
can't ask for anything better
now share
this same special day. It's very
special. But no matter how many
birthdays they celebrate,
Valerie says this birthday might
just be her best ever. It's
gonna be hard to top this one
near Linton. I'm Jody Kurzman
reporting for your news leader.
Oh, how
Adam Curry: beautiful Yes, yes,
that's just perfect. Well, you
I'm glad you're keeping up with
your with your gig. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I feel mine the
guy that lightens the load?
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes, you do.
And have show mixes coming up.
We have we got a nice little mix
here for we got it Isaac
Contreras, Matty J. Ben
Thompson. With short it's short,
but it's good. Some good stuff
is funny. Coming up next with no
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I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country here
and FEMA Region number 650
degrees and getting colder in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we were
promised rain for the next
couple last couple of days and
we got nothing. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll
Adam Curry: see you again on
Sunday. Remember us at
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adios mofos Hui Hui, and
John C Dvorak: I told this guy
who's doing the note taking to
put it up on a blog.
Adam Curry: Record is your
volunteer you're bound to lose
it if you're doing it the way
John C Dvorak: there's some
idiot on this train will console
out or
Adam Curry: is it the Zephyr?
John C Dvorak: What is the deal
with these guys?
Adam Curry: If you had
headphones it wouldn't be such a
problem. Hello, if you if you
had heard
John C Dvorak: this thing on
Adam Curry: your the
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