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John C Dvorak: They are freaked
out. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
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Adam Curry: 2023 This is your
award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1613. This
is no agenda, watching.
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broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
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in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's
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saying the same thing. Go
Niners. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Unknown: Buzzkill.
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Adam Curry: Nobody's saying
that. Oh, yeah. Nobody cares
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about us all they say nobody's
watching football anymore. Have?
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No.
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John C Dvorak: So here's the
question for you. Oh, and ask
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Adam or just a regular old guy
just had Miss asking a random
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question. So I'm listening to
all these different shows. And I
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heard this on the rising and I
heard on different networks. And
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it goes on and on about the
death of Sandra Day O'Connor and
1:01
Henry Kissinger, the two of them
and she's all she's the best.
1:04
Yeah, Henry Kissinger was he's
the worry miss. He's the worst
1:07
famous guy but he's the worst.
He killed millions. And he's a
1:11
war criminal. Yes, sir. When was
this? When did he kill millet?
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When did he kill anybody?
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Adam Curry: though? Yeah. Well,
1:21
John C Dvorak: why is he a war
criminal? What did he do it? Did
1:24
he specifically do? Do you know?
Because I tried looking at it. I
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Adam Curry: do I do. He died
while being Jewish. at the wrong
1:30
moment. This is the wrong
moment. This is what happened.
1:33
That could be we need you know,
Ilan is kind of getting away
1:36
with it. You know, he's like,
he's making problems for
1:39
everybody. It's like, we need
another Jew to blame. There's no
1:43
better Jew to blame that the
dead Jew who can't defend
1:46
himself. Come on. It's obvious
anything to keep the genocide Jo
1:51
stuff out of the way. Anything.
And they're going after
1:55
everybody. This was this was
hilarious. This is Hillary
1:59
Clinton. I even know where she's
walking. And there's protesters
2:04
be up there they are the
Palestinian flags.
2:29
Hillary, Hillary You can't hide
your supporting genocide.
2:34
John C Dvorak: What did Hillary
do exist?
2:36
Adam Curry: It just existed
existed?
2:38
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's not
even Jewish that I know. No,
2:41
Adam Curry: but but she's super
listen. This is so off the hook.
2:45
This is exactly the
counterbalance we needed in the
2:49
world to have any of the people
who have been abused by the
2:53
elites, namely children for the
longest time to turn on them and
2:58
they don't know what to do. And
now this is so beautiful.
3:03
Turkish radio and television
Yeah, they get on to Tik Tok and
3:06
they got these cute young women
who are you know, even on even
3:12
on their the Turkish Radio
Television homepage, these
3:15
videos are filmed in portrait
mode, because they're intended
3:19
for tick tock but they don't
even go on television, but they
3:22
try and get them to go viral.
And this is the kind of what you
3:26
thought Elon Musk was, was had a
problem No, no, no, no.
3:30
Unknown: Oh are famous global
brands involved in Israel's war
3:33
on Palestine Gaza, these brands
directly helps the Israeli
3:36
economy and Israel economy is
the fuel that feeds its military
3:40
and allows it to bomb Gaza and
carry out the genocide against
3:44
the Palestinian people.
3:45
Adam Curry: So the idea is these
brands. Because they do business
3:49
in or with Israel, they are
fueling the genocide. The
3:52
Unknown: world's leading brands
reach nearly every household
3:56
around the globe. It is
difficult to find a home in
3:59
which at least one of these
brands is not present. In 2022.
4:03
Alone, these three companies
earn more than $200 billion
4:07
Procter and Gamble has been part
of the Israel market since 2001.
4:12
Procter
4:12
Adam Curry: and Gamble has
almost all they've been part of
4:15
the Procter and Gamble is a what
we call an F M. C. G, fast
4:19
moving consumer goods company.
Yeah, paper towels soap. Bah,
4:24
no, they're fueling they're
fueling the genocide. Now.
4:27
Unknown: They have gained
attention with a significant
4:30
multi million dollar investments
in Israeli medical companies and
4:33
research centers. This brand is
so popular in Israel that it is
4:38
found in 98% of Israeli
households, famous luxury brand
4:43
we return. They invested
millions of dollars in Israeli
4:46
diamond production companies,
which are the cornerstone of the
4:50
Israeli economy.
4:51
Adam Curry: I didn't know that
diamond production was the
4:53
cornerstone of the Israeli
economy. Did you know that?
4:57
Well, I
4:57
John C Dvorak: think he did a
thing that was recently done as
5:00
Russia yeah Russia,
5:01
Unknown: they are linked to the
sale of Israeli ahava products
5:04
that are produced in the
occupied Palestinian
5:07
territories. The owner of Louis
Vuitton is known for having made
5:11
significant investments in
Israel's security companies
5:14
amounting to hundreds of
millions
5:16
Adam Curry: of dollars. We
futon, Louie, you're a problem.
5:20
Unknown: Next up is hp.
According to the BDS movement,
5:23
in addition to supplying
technology to the Israeli army
5:26
and police, HP,
5:28
Adam Curry: Microsoft is next.
I'm telling you, anything if you
5:32
do business with Israel, you're
going to be boycotted.
5:37
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna give a
slightly different angle on
5:39
this, okay? Because there's
something suspicious about the
5:44
way this is being done. And the
end result is what I saw today,
5:49
I was watching little previews
of some new football and they
5:51
brought cut to a Bud Light
commercial. In the Bud Light
5:55
commercials a bar full of dudes
headed with Peyton Manning, the
6:01
old time spokesperson for ex
football players, Emmitt Smith
6:05
and some other hot shots. They
have to pay these guys a
6:08
fortune, he goes to the bar
orders Bud Light. And he says,
6:11
I'll tell you what, let's have
Bud Light for the whole bar. So
6:13
you buy the bar and Peyton
Manning is throwing passes of
6:16
the Kate with the cam, which
cans you can do with. And so
6:20
he's going to end this but they
had to pay this guy a boatload
6:24
of money to do this. And this,
all of this is going to result
6:28
in heavy advertising to make up
for the bad press. This seems
6:33
almost like it's orchestrated by
the media itself to extract more
6:36
money from these poor companies
in advertising. Interesting.
6:42
Adam Curry: Interesting. Yeah,
yeah. It's the what's the the
6:49
opposite of UFC, the Dana
White's outfit? Yeah, they also
6:55
have a huge, like 100 million
dollar deal or something with
6:58
Bud Light.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
costing nothing but money,
7:03
certainly get back on track. And
that's going to be the same
7:06
proctor going after Procter and
Gamble. I mean, who's really
7:09
behind this? This means they're
going to have to advertise more
7:12
than before bonanza.
7:18
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll take your
point. I mean, there's there's
7:21
certainly jumping on it. But
Hillary Clinton can't
7:25
John C Dvorak: do something if
your brand has been be
7:27
submerged. Here you go. What can
you do about you can go to the
7:30
editors and say, Hey, you guys
are hurt our feelings. You know,
7:33
we didn't do anything wrong. We
just do the stories the way they
7:36
go here. Once you talk to this
guy.
7:40
Adam Curry: This guy is brown
shoes. Talk to him for a moment.
7:42
He'll take care of you. I take
that as a good point. I'll take
7:45
that as a fair point. Fair
point. Well, I would like to
7:50
start today because it dawned on
me after hearing Prince Charles
7:55
speak at COP 28. And I know you
got a couple of clips as well.
7:59
I'm going to lead you into them
that all this the World Economic
8:05
Forum, they're gonna do the
great reset. That is bull crap.
8:11
These guys there, get it. I
don't know if they'll do it was
8:16
cop 28 Or if it's going to be
cop 29. But they are coming for
8:20
you. They are coming for your
money. They're coming with a
8:24
global carbon tax. They're
changing the quote unquote,
8:27
global financial system. Their
pricing carbon. They're all in
8:33
there getting closer and it kind
of hit me when I heard. This is
8:37
something you won't hear at the
at the World Economic Forum.
8:41
Klaus Schwab. Give me a break.
Now when when you address this
8:46
audience like this, Your
8:47
Unknown: Highness, Secretary
General, Your Majesty is your
8:52
royal highnesses, presidents,
prime ministers, Ministers,
8:57
Ladies and Gentlemen.
8:59
Adam Curry: ratul your jewels
please.
9:01
Unknown: I would like to extend
our that's a great
9:03
Adam Curry: clip. Because I mean
this these are the people who
9:06
make stuff happen. They make
things happen. Not
9:11
John C Dvorak: call you and your
royal highness. Yes, yes, your
9:15
Adam Curry: Excellency
9:16
Unknown: ministers ladies and
gentlemen. I would like to
9:19
extend my heartfelt gratitude to
His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin
9:23
Zayed. I'm not sure
9:26
Adam Curry: this is not you
know, the Saudis weren't royal
9:28
until until the 70s. You know,
they were better when sheep
9:33
farmers have now Oh, Your
Highness Your royalty. Thank you
9:37
Unknown: so much for his warm
invitation to speak to you at
9:40
the opening of cop 28. Eight
years ago, I was most touched to
9:47
be asked to speak at the opening
of cop 21 in Paris. I was so
9:51
touched, which of course
culminated in the Paris
9:55
Agreement. A landmark moment of
hope and optimism. When nations
10:01
put differences to one side for
the common good, I pray with all
10:06
my hearts that cop 28 will be
another critical turning point
10:13
towards genuine transformational
action. That's a time when
10:19
already, as scientists have been
warning for so long. Oh, we are
10:24
seeing alarming tipping points
being reached. Tipping
10:28
John C Dvorak: points. Yes,
alarm by the way isn't. He says
10:33
eight years ago, but isn't it
seven years ago when it's cop
10:36
21. You have kept 21 and 22 to a
three to a four to five to six
10:40
by 727 years ago. It's not eight
years ago.
10:43
Adam Curry: Well, that's muted.
Okay. Who cares? Who can I do?
10:48
Let's get to the music. They
10:49
John C Dvorak: can't do the math
of just going back eight years
10:52
or seven years? How can they
tell us what's gonna happen with
10:55
the climate 100 years from now?
Well,
10:57
Adam Curry: he does. You're
right. You're correct. 4
11:00
trillion 5 trillion. small
difference public finance
11:04
Unknown: alone will never be
sufficient. No. With the private
11:08
sector firmly on the table.
11:10
John C Dvorak: So companies in
the public?
11:12
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This is coming. This is coming
11:16
firmly at the table. What?
11:20
John C Dvorak: I say yeah, it
might be coming. But it hasn't
11:22
come yet. You can still fight
it.
11:24
Unknown: The international
financial system, combined with
11:29
the innovative use of risk
reduction tools like first loss
11:33
risk guarantees
11:35
Adam Curry: stop. What
11:37
John C Dvorak: is he talking
about?
11:38
Adam Curry: I looked it up with
that you did with tools, tools
11:43
tools, like who's
11:44
Unknown: like first loss risk
guarantees first loss
11:49
Adam Curry: risk guarantees.
This is a type of insurance.
11:54
First loss policy is a type of
property insurance policy that
11:59
provides only partial insurance
in the event of a claim the
12:03
policyholder agrees to accept an
amount less than the full value
12:08
of a damaged, destroyed or
stolen
12:10
John C Dvorak: property. And
what's the benefit in that
12:13
Adam Curry: in return, the
insurer agrees not to penalize
12:16
the policyholder for under
insuring their goods or
12:19
property. So I'm not exactly
sure Wait a minute. I'm not
12:25
exactly sure. But there's
something and we have enough
12:29
boots on the ground people who
can explain to me how they're
12:33
using this insurance clear
insurance scam. By just don't
12:38
know how it works yet, but
they're gonna use this somehow
12:41
to soak everybody. They for him
to say this sums up.
12:48
John C Dvorak: I agree. You
don't bring something like this
12:50
in out of the blue to a
conference like this? And stated
12:54
as some sort of tool?
12:55
Unknown: Oh, yeah. We
12:57
could mobilize the trillions of
dollars, we need how many in the
13:02
order of four and a half to 5
trillion a year to drive the
13:06
transformation a year?
13:08
A year?
13:10
Adam Curry: A year? A year? Four
and a half to 5 trillion. Isn't
13:16
that? Isn't that the GDP of the
United States? I think that's
13:19
where it's, I mean, it's is that
a coincidence? The
13:22
John C Dvorak: entire GDP a
year, our entire economy per
13:27
year? Watch?
13:29
Adam Curry: Well, it's let's get
you to listen. Second,
13:33
Unknown: how could we ensure
that finance flows to those
13:36
developments are most essential
to a sustainable future? But
13:40
Adam Curry: first of all, we set
up businesses in Africa, and we
13:44
just wait for the money boat to
come in. And we then we pretend
13:47
we're helping the black people
in Africa da
13:50
Unknown: and away from practices
that make our world more
13:53
dangerous.
13:54
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Dangerous
to me, because they will want to
13:56
cue me if I'm still in the West,
across
13:58
Unknown: every industry in every
part of the world. Yeah, I have,
14:03
for instance, been heartened by
some of the steps taken by parts
14:07
of the insurance sector, which
plays such a vital role in
14:12
incentivizing more sustainable
approaches, and providing an
14:17
invaluable source of investment
to reduce the risks we face
14:22
Adam Curry: okay, I think that
they're gonna run the money
14:25
through insurance companies,
insurance companies are just
14:27
banks based not not anything
special. Right is just the bank
14:31
and that they get a claim that
what insurance companies
14:34
typically do is no, you don't
you know, I'm not gonna pay you.
14:38
That's the first thing they say.
Um, so I think that that somehow
14:42
they are going to run the money
through the insurance companies.
14:45
I'm not quite sure how yet, but
the first thing that has to
14:49
happen was addressed by Queen
Ursula, who is not the queen of
14:53
the dancing scene in this one.
She only got a short little bit
14:57
on the big stage and then manchi
she had a She had her own little
15:01
side session which I mean the
audience even said i The audio
15:05
is no good. And I couldn't even
clip it. It was so bad. So she
15:09
was completely marginalized in
this but she came and she said
15:12
what she supposedly
15:13
John C Dvorak: what she did
wrong that would this would have
15:15
she she
15:15
Adam Curry: is a failed
politician from Germany. Her job
15:18
is to do what they tell her to
do. And they said you Ursula,
15:22
make sure you focus on the one
point and drive it home. The
15:25
future
15:25
Unknown: of energy will be
clean, it will be affordable,
15:29
and it will be homegrown,
homegrown fuel, and finally on
15:34
finance, we must meet the 100
billion target this year, Europe
15:39
consistently delivered last year
the European Union contributed
15:44
close to $30 billion in public
climate finance and of course
15:48
the European Union will
contribute to the new loss and
15:51
damage fund
15:53
Adam Curry: loss and damage for
I'm telling you, John, there's
15:55
doing something here. It's about
insurance. It's this loss and
15:59
damage. It's first loss
policies. Something going on
16:02
today.
16:03
Unknown: Team Europe, this
16:04
Adam Curry: country team Europe.
Wait a minute, what's his team
16:08
Europe all of a sudden, I did a
16:10
Unknown: soccer game loss and
damaged font. As of today. Team
16:15
Europe is contributing more than
$270 million so far. We must get
16:22
the fund up
16:24
Adam Curry: 4 trillion No, no,
this is just this year this year
16:27
team Europe is behind they must
work harder team Europe million
16:32
70 million is nothing oh there's
nothing that's that's horrible
16:35
so
16:35
Unknown: far. We must get the
fund up and running. And we were
16:40
asked to do it,
16:41
Adam Curry: too. They're doing a
green of fun. This is the first
16:45
loss policy firm they're going
to do greened bonds. But
16:48
Unknown: we all know more is
needed. We need to reform the
16:52
international financial system
16:55
Adam Curry: because we need a
carbon tax
16:58
Unknown: we need a strong green
bond market green bond market
17:02
and we need more carbon pricing
ladies and gentlemen thank you
17:07
dear friends I wish for a
successful cop 28 Many things
17:14
Adam Curry: There you go. We
need more carbon pricing carbon
17:18
pricing so we can know exactly
how much to tax you if you
17:22
pollute then you will pay a tax
and that somehow goat we wash
17:27
that through the insurance
companies and we sit in Africa
17:30
and we steal it from you I
cannot see any other way these
17:34
are the evil people of the world
they have been captured and and
17:37
we're so we've been so hammered
by this incessant climate change
17:43
that even the people with
reasonable thought patterns like
17:48
well you know when was climate
change and that just it's just a
17:52
thing it's hard for anyone to
say no this is not true in
17:56
Germany the as they're getting
ready to fly their privates no
17:59
evidence that it was really
flying their private jets but
18:02
regardless, cop 28 starts the
world is boiling and Munich sees
18:09
sees 44 inches of snow which
they haven't seen ever it's
18:14
record snowfall the planes can
take a day have a clip. Oh good
18:18
let's play did you get to the UK
also is is completely snowed
18:23
under no weather. Yeah,
18:25
John C Dvorak: weather Bavarian
blizzard. It's
18:26
Unknown: called and a Bavarian
Blizzard has dropped record snow
18:30
amounts on much of Germany,
Austria, the Czech Republic and
18:33
Switzerland. The storm knocked
out power to 1000s installed
18:37
travel across the region,
grounding flights, varying
18:40
highways and forcing mass
transit to close
18:44
Adam Curry: to more clips, and
I'm gonna lead right into your
18:46
clips because I seen the title.
So I know more or less what
18:48
you're going to do. The first
thing is we have to play
18:51
something by the United Nations
Secretary General who is a
18:54
troll. He was a troll. He might
even be wearing a wig this guy.
18:58
He's a little troll. And he
always cracks me up with his
19:03
pronunciation of things. On
purpose. I don't know that well,
19:08
maybe maybe it's day
19:09
Unknown: two at COP 28 in Dubai
and the Coolster urgent action
19:13
continue.
19:14
We cannot save a burning planet.
Here fire hose planet. You're
19:21
missing the beauty action
continue. We cannot save a
19:24
burning planet here firehose of
fossil fuels.
19:31
Adam Curry: We cannot save a
burning planet with a firehose
19:33
of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels is
what it is your fossil fuels
19:38
your firehose
19:39
Unknown: of fossil fuels. We
must accelerate a just equitable
19:43
transition to renewables.
renewables. The science is
19:46
clear. The
19:47
Adam Curry: science is clear.
It's clear, it's clear
19:51
Unknown: the science is clear.
The 1.5 degree limits is only
19:56
possible if we ultimately
stopped burning fossil fuels
20:01
stop
20:01
Adam Curry: burning the fossil
fuels. Stop it. But it's not
20:05
going to stop with fossil fuels.
No, it's going to go to fossil
20:07
food.
20:08
Unknown: Fossil fuels normally
get the most attention at the
20:11
annual climate summit. But on
Friday, there was a breakthrough
20:14
on another crucial part of
tackling climate change what we
20:18
eat we're hating 30 countries,
including the US EU because you
20:23
Adam Curry: can even hear the
bug sound effect in the report.
20:25
You hear the crickets in the
report. It's this is subliminal,
20:29
they're giving you cricket
sounds because that's what
20:31
you'll be given to eat what
20:32
Unknown: we eat more than 130
countries including the US, EU,
20:37
Brazil and China have signed an
agreement aiming to make food
20:40
production more sustainable.
First agreements of its kind and
20:45
could be a very important one
food system is responsible for
20:49
1/3 of greenhouse gas emissions
and 15% of fossil fuel with huge
20:55
amounts of food wasted in some
countries, weightless,
20:58
overconsumption of industrially
produced meat and processed, no
21:02
meat. For many campaigners,
small scale farmers and local
21:05
communities are a key part of
the solution.
21:09
Adam Curry: key part of the
solution so they've signed some
21:11
deal. We don't know what it is,
but I'm gonna guess bitsbox And
21:16
then we have our vice president
because if you're going to have
21:19
queen, Ursula, you might as well
bring in Queen Cavalia.
21:22
Unknown: Around the world there
are those who seek to slow or
21:25
stop our progress, like
podcasters leaders who deny
21:31
climate science, delay climate
action, and spread
21:35
misinformation podcasters
corporations that greenwash
21:40
climate inaction and lobby for
billions of dollars in fossil
21:44
fuel subsidies in the face of
their resistance. And in the
21:50
context of this moment, we must
do more. Yeah,
21:56
here's also announced the US is
pledging $3 billion to the Green
21:59
Climate Fund. The International
Fund is dedicated to supporting
22:03
climate action in developing
countries. And the Biden
22:06
administration outline plans
today to reduce us methane
22:09
emissions. The CBC, Susan
Ormiston is in Dubai with more
22:12
on the progress being made.
22:14
Adam Curry: I'm gonna stop it
here because I saw that you had
22:16
methane clips. So when that
popped up, and of course, you
22:21
understand these things, you
know, a lot about few fuels,
22:24
fossil fuels, fools fools, from
your time in the government as
22:28
a, as a horrible
22:31
John C Dvorak: in the
administrative state. deep state
22:34
you are in a deep state, you're
gonna do nothing. So first,
22:39
let's go back to this nonsense
about and I maybe maybe there's
22:44
something I don't know. But this
idea of they always keep using
22:49
this this. Paris said in there
about oil subsidies, yes.
22:58
Governments that what what
subsidies what, what what are
23:01
they? What are these subsidies
for the oil industry?
23:04
Adam Curry: If I recall, there
is and it's not just for oil
23:08
companies, there is a US
production tax benefit.
23:12
John C Dvorak: There's an oil
depletion allowance. What's the
23:17
big tax break? What is that? I
haven't asked I buy an oil well,
23:21
it's worth a million dollars
because it's a million dollars.
23:24
But as I pump the oil out, it
becomes slowly worthless. I get
23:28
an oil depletion allowance a tax
benefit for that because now
23:33
that now my asset has become
worth nothing. After I pumped
23:37
all the unsold all the oil,
23:38
Adam Curry: you get to
depreciate your million dollar
23:40
initial investment.
23:42
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
what the exact how the math
23:45
works, but it's but that's I
think what they're always
23:47
talking about. And of course, if
you eliminate that, it's not
23:51
going to stop anything. It's
just going to jack up the price
23:54
of gasoline, which
23:55
Adam Curry: now is 275 for
regular here in Texas so we can
23:59
handle survive 50
24:04
John C Dvorak: By the way, the
curious thing about our being
24:06
550. It's also an oil production
state, we produce oil in this
24:10
state. The good news is we have
most of the refineries in this
24:14
state
24:14
Adam Curry: Wednesday, I'm
having dinner with oil baron, so
24:17
I'll get a full breakdown of
exactly this topic. Good because
24:22
he has oil well. So that'll be
easy, dude, what's your tax
24:25
benefit? He'll tell me. Yeah,
24:28
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you.
And it's probably a pretty good
24:30
deal. I mean, that's one of the
reasons it was done to encourage
24:34
people to get this oil audit.
May I remind
24:37
Adam Curry: you, oil baron,
okay. Yeah, I bet it's a pretty
24:41
good deal.
24:44
John C Dvorak: So let's go to
cop 28. I think we'll go with
24:49
the first we'll start with the
Harris stuff. I have this top 21
24:53
Harris PBS at
24:55
Unknown: the United Nations cop
28 climate conference in Dubai.
24:59
Vice President head HARRIS
pledged $3 billion toward a
25:02
global fund to help poor nations
adapt to climate change. The
25:06
United States also committed to
doubling energy efficiency and
25:09
tripling the use of renewable
energy by 2030. Harris said the
25:13
time for action is now
25:15
the urgency of this moment is
clear. The clock is no longer
25:21
just ticking, it is banging, its
binding and we must make up for
25:26
lost time. And we must treat the
climate crisis as the
25:32
existential threat that is truly
25:37
Adam Curry: who says banging,
banging. The clock is banging,
25:42
banging She's no she was very
explicit on the banking is yes,
25:46
she said banking. I wanted to
say banking. What is what is
25:50
that banking? Banking banking is
what
25:53
John C Dvorak: she's got that
she's had some she has some
25:55
South Asian. Buried in there.
That's okay. All right. banking,
26:01
banking, banking. Okay, we wrap
that that's wrapped. Yes, she
26:06
wrap up. Okay. Was she going
away, guys? So let's go to cop
26:11
22 methane coming in. I have
kept 28 to methane because I
26:18
gotcha. I gotcha.
26:19
Unknown: Officials also
announced a major new initiative
26:21
aimed at getting methane
emission to near zero by 2030.
26:26
Adam Curry: Okay, now methane
emission. What I know one part
26:30
of methane is burning off your
your gas wells is that he's
26:34
talking about that in this case
or something else? It's
26:37
John C Dvorak: hard to say what
they're talking mostly about
26:40
refineries leaking. And
California's methane. No,
26:45
they're not talking about the
about the cow. It's mostly
26:47
belches. It turns out Oh, okay.
Because they're ruminants and a
26:51
belch the methane out of their
mouth. The problem with this
26:56
whole thing, and I'll put this
right up front, is that natural
27:00
gas is methane. They won't say
natural gas. They just keeps
27:06
saying methane, methane. So you
can't I mean, if you turn your
27:10
stove on, you're mad leaking
methane all over the place. It's
27:14
methane. Got it. That's natural
gases. 97% methane. So when this
27:21
is a, this is a roundabout way,
this whole methane thing is a
27:24
roundabout way. And I would say
a chickenshit way of getting rid
27:29
of gas stoves, gas furnaces and
gas heaters. You know, it's a
27:33
shame that Boone Pickens isn't
still alive because he was the
27:38
big promoter of natural gas as
an alternative to to liquid
27:43
petroleum products. And he would
throw a bunch of money at this
27:47
nonsense and end it right now
because you can't do what they
27:51
want to do without getting rid
of your gas stoves. So they
27:55
don't want to talk about it.
Well, no. Gas No, Donna. No,
27:59
this just trying to stop. This
is very nice. I guess this is
28:02
not about gas.
28:03
Adam Curry: This is very
interesting. This is a scam.
28:07
Because the total scam anything
people are very aware of the war
28:11
on gas stoves. You know, then
28:14
John C Dvorak: everyone denies
it. No, no, no, we're not doing
28:17
that. That's not true.
28:18
Adam Curry: Yeah, but but now
they've just done a little
28:20
switcheroo and they just call it
methane or dare I say methane in
28:25
the UK. He has me say anything.
And but they're lying. They're
28:28
lying. They're really saying No
more No more cheap energy
28:31
because methane gas natural gas
is quite affordable. I think
28:37
it's quite sick or am I not?
It's quite safe.
28:40
John C Dvorak: Well in this it
accumulates in a house completed
28:43
and in some of the lights a
match. It's a Yeah, it's safe.
28:46
It's safe compared to around
been around for longer than
28:51
hydrogen lessons.
28:54
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. All
right. So we have to get rid of
28:57
it. Got it. So
28:58
John C Dvorak: that but this is
this is exactly what you said
29:00
it's a scam. And here we go. And
I just most this is the methane
29:05
series. Now this is cop 28
methane one
29:08
Unknown: at the cop 28 summit in
Dubai today. 50. Oil and gas
29:12
companies representing about 40%
of global production pledged to
29:16
reduce methane emissions to near
zero by 2030. Methane is a
29:20
byproduct of oil and gas
production that can trap 80
29:23
times as much heat as carbon
dioxide in the short term. The
29:27
companies including industry
giants, like Exxon Mobil, shell
29:30
and BP say they'll achieve this
by plugging leaks at their
29:34
facilities and ending the
practice of burning off excess
29:37
gas with flares. The same time
the Biden administration
29:40
announced new rules to enforce
major elements of that agreement
29:43
in this country.
29:45
Adam Curry: Ah, there it is.
There's your war on gas stoves.
29:49
John C Dvorak: Now a couple of
things in this clip. He says
29:54
that ADT Muluzi at methane's at
x In terms of greenhouse gas
30:02
emissions at x co2, yeah, but
how come this hasn't been
30:05
addressed before? While it was
You were always talking about
30:08
carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon
and referring to co2, co2 co2,
30:13
which is a parts per million
thing in the atmosphere. It's
30:15
hardly anything right. But they
keep talking about it. But
30:18
meanwhile, methane, why now?
Doesn't
30:21
Adam Curry: have very low carbon
dioxide emission? What I'm
30:26
sorry, does burn, does burning
natural gas have a low as
30:31
John C Dvorak: lower than
burning? Coal? Yeah, that's what
30:34
T. Boone Pickens was always
doing. Always thought, yeah,
30:36
Lauren Cole or a lot of
30:38
Adam Curry: stuff. So it's not a
good narrative. And also, well,
30:41
John C Dvorak: this ADX is a raw
This is raw methane going into
30:44
the atmosphere, right. And then
then the East says that and they
30:47
refineries are getting down to
refineries. One thing that's
30:50
never mentioned is methane is a
product they sell as natural
30:56
gas. They don't want it leaking
all over the place. They're
30:59
giving away product. It's like,
it's like letting the wine
31:03
barrel overfill and go into down
the sewer. Right? This is not
31:06
what they want. So this is in
the best interests of the of the
31:09
oil refineries to plug any leaks
there are so that so they're all
31:13
always for that. So this is not
a concession by any means.
31:17
Because they want to do this
because they're big lose money,
31:21
otherwise, maybe so this is
bullcrap this narrative, well,
31:25
how
31:25
Adam Curry: about this? Or maybe
they're like, Yeah, that's good.
31:27
Give us some more subsidies so
we can plug up.
31:30
John C Dvorak: I believe that's
in the back.
31:33
Adam Curry: Is there is there
also not an element of F Russia
31:36
in all of this? Since Russia has
a lot of restaurant? Yes.
31:40
John C Dvorak: I didn't think of
that. But that's obviously the
31:42
case. Yeah. And so you have that
aspect. And the other thing is,
31:46
is in in, the refiners are going
to try to stop flaring so much.
31:51
Natural gas when it gets into
the system, and they had to get
31:54
rid of it. They sent it to the
flare. But when it gets burned
31:58
in the flare, it gets burned.
There's no natural gas coming
32:01
off that flame. So that's bull
crap. And that's just bullcrap.
32:08
I was just
32:09
Adam Curry: just okay. laughter
Okay, Okay, gotcha. Okay. He's
32:13
both practical.
32:14
John C Dvorak: But again, I
think the whole thing is about
32:16
the stoves but let's go with
methane too. Earlier,
32:18
Unknown: I spoke with Fred
Krupp, the president of the
32:20
Environmental Defense Fund, who
was at COP 28. I asked about
32:24
what makes this deal so
important. John,
32:27
I've been at this for a long
time. And in my 30 plus years of
32:30
doing this work, I don't think
we've ever had as good a day for
32:34
the climate as we had today. We
had the US EPA announcing the
32:38
strongest methane rules for the
oil and gas sector on the
32:42
planet. Second, we had 50
companies representing 40% of
32:47
global oil production, pledging
to virtually eliminate their
32:51
methane pollution. And then
third, we saw an announcement
32:54
from the US and China that
they've agreed to incorporate
32:57
methane in the future into their
pledges internationally. And
33:03
methane, John is 80 times more
powerful as a greenhouse gas
33:08
than carbon dioxide pound for
pound in those first 20 years.
33:12
And so reductions now that will
happen as a result of these
33:16
three actions mean that storms
will be less ferocious, will be
33:22
lower than they would otherwise
be over the next 10 years.
33:26
Thanks to the actions that were
pledged today. Storms
33:29
Adam Curry: will be less
ferocious at the weatherman
33:32
John C Dvorak: over the next 10
years because it is one action
33:36
which is meaningless as
meaningless action which isn't
33:38
going to do jack until they get
rid of this stoves and heaters.
33:43
But now, here's the problem.
They had like the hurricane
33:46
season just ended. What was the
big massive hurricane on the
33:49
East Coast that took out like
half of a state and killed
33:52
millions. was the big storm this
year. Yeah, carry
33:56
Adam Curry: on. Well, there was
a bad storm on the little piece
34:00
of Florida on the Gulf side,
interestingly. But it didn't
34:04
take out millions. It
34:05
John C Dvorak: wasn't like the
big stores. We'd like Katrina.
34:08
No, no, which was, if you
recall, when Katrina happened,
34:12
this was going to be the
standard of excellence every
34:15
year and it's gonna get worse
and worse. What was this year's
34:19
big storm was that little storm
you're talking about? But this
34:21
was
34:21
Adam Curry: this is the problem.
The problem is people don't look
34:25
at history. They're not taught
history. They're told to just
34:28
oh, just listen, listen to me.
Listen to me, this is the worst
34:31
and it's coming from our so
called leaders so people go
34:34
okay, because people have other
things to do like figure out how
34:37
to pay the rent. Now
34:39
John C Dvorak: let's go back to
this guy and he has commentary.
34:42
This is right here. What he said
is meaningless methane bull
34:47
crap. In which isn't going to do
jack is going to be used as
34:52
well. We says we passed this
this is the big deal. We passed
34:55
it a cup 28 and looked at we
didn't have so many hurricanes
34:58
is already starting to clear up
a little bit they need because
35:01
the cycle that the weather
cycles based on sunspots is, is
35:05
switching on to the other one's
going down the other way. And
35:07
they've got to come up with some
reason quick, a quick, real
35:11
quick fix. And this guy just
told you what it was.
35:16
Adam Curry: They need the quick
fix so they can then take credit
35:19
for it. Yeah, see, storms are
less temperatures coming down
35:24
days to us. We foam finger
number one, everybody. That's
35:28
right. So we can predict in 10
years, that everything will be
35:33
much calmer. It'll be cold, it'd
be cold, it's gonna be cold.
35:36
It's gonna get cold, right?
We're gonna get very cold,
35:38
everybody. Maybe, maybe, maybe
that's what King Charles meant
35:44
by tipping point where the
tipping point people, tipping
35:46
points, your tipping point and a
tipping point is that
35:49
temperatures are going down?
Everything's going down? Because
35:52
with the sun cycle, what is it?
What cycle is I forget that they
35:56
they number them? Every 11
years? It goes to the to the Sun
36:00
cycle. I know what is a ham
operator, you know these things?
36:03
So that we're going down to the
bottom of the cycle? I think we
36:05
have two more years left and
then it's over. And then well,
36:09
we did it. We did it everybody.
We're in Africa now send us our
36:13
trillions in he was in
36:15
John C Dvorak: his or trillion
so we can make sure we don't do
36:18
we don't backtrack. Exactly.
Okay, methane, three. And
36:22
Unknown: is this a long term
solution to the problem? Is this
36:25
a sort of short term quick fix?
36:27
Well, we have to both do methane
to reduce temperatures in the
36:31
short term, and we cannot stop
working. In fact, we have to
36:36
accelerate our work on
eliminating carbon dioxide. The
36:40
oil and gas industry took this
one step. But they have to do a
36:45
lot more than this, we have to
move away from laughing Reliance
36:49
or dependency on fossil. Let's
listen again, the oil and gas
36:54
industry took this one step. But
they have to do a lot more than
36:59
this. We have to move away from
reliance or dependency on fossil
37:04
fuels as quickly as we can. But
while we're still using them, we
37:08
have to eliminate this very
powerful greenhouse gas method.
37:13
Adam Curry: Okay, so from the
National Weather Surface,
37:16
Surface service surface
37:18
Unknown: surface mirror surface
surface, we
37:21
Adam Curry: are two years away
from the top of Sun solar cycle
37:25
25. The peak will be expected
solar maximum July 2025. So
37:33
there's that's the peak of solar
cycle 25. So that's, that's why
37:39
the hurry up.
37:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, buy some
panicky thing we can do. Yeah.
37:46
All right, here we go. Is the
last of these clips, this
37:49
Unknown: agreement is voluntary.
The oil companies have to do
37:53
what they what they promised to
do. And a lot of environmental
37:57
groups don't like that. They
said there's no accountability
38:00
mechanism or guarantee the
companies will follow through.
38:04
What do you say to that.
38:05
But I think it's good to be
skeptical of pledges at the COP.
38:08
A lot of pledges that have been
made at this Conference of the
38:11
Parties year after year aren't
delivered on in this particular
38:15
pledge. We structured it to have
accountability built in. So the
38:19
oil and gas companies are
agreeing to report their
38:23
emissions by monitoring,
monitoring them and then sending
38:27
them to an international
independent third party. In
38:30
addition to that, the Bloomberg
Philanthropies today announced a
38:35
major $25 million gift to not
only the Environmental Defense
38:39
Fund, but it will stand up and
accountability partnership that
38:43
will make data transparent. And
so we'll be able to see exactly
38:48
who is meeting this pledge and
who's not.
38:51
Adam Curry: So oh, I've heard it
four times. Now the
38:54
Environmental Defense Fund.
38:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's this
guy. He's the head of it.
38:59
Adam Curry: But is this well? Is
that a global thing?
39:04
John C Dvorak: I think to
American seems like 9013 C,
39:08
whatever it
39:08
Adam Curry: is, seems like it's
New York based. Might be founded
39:12
in 1967. So yeah, that's good.
Yeah, it
39:16
John C Dvorak: was founded
during the it was that was
39:19
founded at if I'm not mistaken.
The Environmental Defense Fund
39:22
was founded during the heyday of
anti pollution, real pollution,
39:27
Ed evety
39:30
Adam Curry: 1967, a group of
scientists formed the
39:32
organization sets out to ban
DDT.
39:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, is the DDT?
That's right, it was a DDT that
39:38
came out of Rachel Carson's best
seller, Silent Spring, which had
39:43
which is really about DDT,
39:45
Adam Curry: that and then in
1970, it was efforts to ban
39:49
whale hunting. Remember that
one? Which was an attack on
39:53
Japan as far as I can remember?
Yeah, horrible Japanese Japanese
39:57
killing whales. Um, I got this
one minute 22 second clip. I got
40:05
this from, and it's a brief
history. Like, before
40:09
John C Dvorak: you go, I wanted
to comment on the less. Yeah. So
40:13
this I just wanted this as a
refinery story having worked at
40:17
a refinery in the lab and I this
is I don't think they're evil by
40:23
any means. I like refiners. I
think they're all great, but I'm
40:27
just this is the way reporting
goes, we have to do a monthly
40:32
coliform test of the effluent
that comes off of the refinery,
40:36
water supply, and it goes and
you get a sample and you do this
40:40
blood test. And it's for it's
called coliform. And it's a type
40:44
of bacteria. It's a bacterial
test. And if it shows up, that
40:47
means you got contamination in
the water that's going into the
40:50
San Francisco Bay. And it would
go like this. And it which means
40:55
there's sewage, and there's I
don't know how it even gets in
40:57
there, but it will get in there.
And it's a little elaborate test
41:02
is kind of a pain in the ass.
It's got nothing to do with the
41:04
refinery at all, but you have to
do this test. So you do the
41:07
test. And you do this test once
a month, I think as I recall,
41:10
and you do the test once a month
and you do the test and it goes
41:13
oh shit, we got coliform. And
then you go, well, or somebody
41:18
somebody says, Okay, we'll do
the test tomorrow. Yeah,
41:25
yesterday came out, okay. Okay,
send that one in.
41:28
Adam Curry: Oh, you see, just
take whatever's handy.
41:31
John C Dvorak: This is you take
the test that passes. Nice. And
41:36
that's how you do it. And I'm
not, no one's going to convince
41:39
me that that's not the way it's
done everywhere by everybody.
41:43
Because it's like bull crap test
to begin with. Because in fact,
41:47
you take the test every day of
the month, and it would be 90 or
41:50
90 by the 25 days of no problem.
And then maybe it's a day in
41:54
there. So it's kind of like
doesn't happen.
41:55
Adam Curry: It's kind of like a
COVID test. So the Environmental
42:01
Defense Fund, indeed, a 501. C
three. Yeah. How much do you
42:06
think they were given in 2022?
According to their form,
42:12
990 $100 million? How about 385
million? I have 452 million in
42:19
assets. You know, because they
play the stock market, of
42:23
course. And their mission is to
build a vital Earth for
42:27
everyone. By leveraging
environment, oceans health,
42:33
environment, health, public
health, children, leveraging
42:37
children. Fine. Here's a brief
history of this cop outfit
42:43
because it started a long time
ago. And we're still not dead.
42:48
Unknown: General Boutros Ghali,
42:50
the Earth Summit in Rio was the
first time that more than 100
42:53
heads of states and governments
gathered together in one room to
42:57
talk climate, establishing
sustainable development as a
43:00
basis for international
cooperation. At least in theory,
43:04
the world is our garden, and
together, we must cultivate it.
43:08
Five
43:09
years later, the Kyoto Protocol
was signed, develop countries
43:13
pledged to reduce their
greenhouse gas emissions by at
43:15
least 5% Compared to 1990
levels. One big problem the
43:20
world's biggest emitters, the US
China and India were not bound
43:24
by the text. In 2009, the aim of
cop 15 in Copenhagen was an
43:31
international agreement to fight
climate change. The US and China
43:36
helped draft a last minute joint
statement, it was not widely
43:39
adopted. The 2015 edition in
France was considered a
43:44
resounding success. The Paris
Agreement was the first treaty
43:48
to commit the entire
international community to the
43:51
fight against climate change,
pledging to maintain the rise in
43:54
the global average temperature
to quote well below two degrees
43:58
compared to pre industrial
levels. signatories also agreed
44:02
to assess their efforts every
five years. Eight years on the
44:06
UN says much more must be done
to meet the goals set in Paris.
44:11
Adam Curry: So to just wrap this
part up, these are the real
44:14
people who are doing a an actual
slow, global reset. It is really
44:21
happening. They're going to
price carbon. Every action you
44:25
take as a human being it'll
start with businesses, the
44:28
businesses, they get some deal
I'm sure this insurance scam
44:31
somehow work. Someone's going to
tell us how that works.
44:34
Business, we'll get some
insurance. Now pay off, but
44:39
ultimately, it's going to come
from the individual humans that
44:43
you travel, you're gonna be
charged for your poop. Yes. How
44:47
much do you poop? That's right.
You're gonna be if you're a big
44:49
pooper, then sorry, Anderson
Cooper is going to be poor in
44:52
the future. As I was just going
to everything you do, there will
44:56
be a climate tax. That's why
they're pricing carbon and We
45:00
only have to look from Texas a
little bit up to the north to
45:03
see that this is in play in
Canada. And it was a and they're
45:07
joking about it. Do you ever
Trudeau and Paul Revere the two
45:11
sides of the political spectrum,
laughing about it now the what?
45:15
What happened here is they were
jamming a carbon tax into aid
45:22
for Ukraine, I believe, have the
45:25
John C Dvorak: right and the
classic and the conservatism
45:28
Adam Curry: of now. No, we're
not. We're not going to. We're
45:30
not going to pass this without
thinking that but it's all just
45:32
a big joke to them, denialism
45:34
Unknown: of the Conservative
Party of Canada is putting
45:37
future white Christmases at
risk. And that's why
45:42
Adam Curry: this is my favorite.
Dude. They've been writing since
45:46
2000. We weren't supposed to
have white Christmas and
45:49
certainly not in the UK. But
okay. You are threatening White
45:52
Christmas.
45:53
Unknown: Future White Christmas
is at risk. And that's why on
45:57
this side of the house
46:06
John C Dvorak: clown show to
clown show.
46:15
Unknown: Leader the opposition,
Mr. Speaker that has to be the
46:20
angriest and most cost to
Christmas message.
46:27
This is a guy he hasn't faced
though. Cool. Despite his
46:30
theatrics over there, Mr.
Speaker, what he's doing is
46:33
phasing out food because
Canadians can't afford it. Now
46:37
as he raises carbon taxes on the
wonderful farmers that bring us
46:42
bring it to our table. Why won't
he axe the tax on farmers so
46:46
that Canadians can eat heat and
houses themselves? And why
46:50
doesn't he be a little less like
Scrooge and a little more like
46:52
Santa Claus.
46:54
Adam Curry: So if we make it
another 10 years, I would say
46:59
sketchy likelihood at best. We
will be talking about bug
47:04
recipes on this very podcast,
because they're doing it. This
47:09
is the while we're all arguing
about Klaus Schwab. And I'll go
47:14
I like it's funny. The Klaus
Schwab songs and everything is
47:18
funny.
47:18
John C Dvorak: I love the Klaus
Schwab material. It's
47:21
Adam Curry: funny, but it's very
funny, but it's really the wrong
47:24
thing. These are the people and
this is huge. The amount of
47:29
people who are in these cop
meetings, and they're living it
47:32
up. I mean, they're flying
around the land
47:36
John C Dvorak: around in their
private hair came in there. Of
47:38
all places do buy which is a
long haul for anyone to go to
47:43
Adam Curry: a it's a great trip.
Pierre flew in special special
47:48
now to do everybody's hair.
Look, I know women and hair,
47:54
Queen Ursula his hair was done.
So be there. She had her
47:57
personal hairdresser fly with
her. Or Pierre was there waiting
48:02
for about a week she's actually
no no, no, this is no wig. This
48:06
is no wig. The you know, she I
believe may be responsible for a
48:10
huge, huge loss theft may be of
money with the Pfizer deals
48:16
which she did on her on her own
phone. Of course, you know, we
48:19
can't show those tax records. I
mean, there's no Yeah, exactly.
48:23
There's no record. These people
are stealing from our children's
48:28
future.
48:29
John C Dvorak: That's stealing
from our future. Our
48:33
Adam Curry: immediate future. We
don't have much future left and
48:35
they're stealing from it. That's
been me. Meanwhile, let's all
48:39
feel good by stories like
48:42
Unknown: this, and finally
tonight, the new technology that
48:45
could redefine what it means to
go electric. Here's Maggie
48:48
Vesper.
48:50
Adam Curry: By the way, nothing
funnier than having a reporter
48:54
work on climate change and
electrified cars whose name is
48:57
Vesper?
48:58
John C Dvorak: Are you getting
out the scooter? Yes, but really
49:01
Unknown: electric here's Maggie
Vesper.
49:04
on its list of claims to
automotive fame, okay, there we
49:08
go. Detroit can add America's
first electric Ave. The battery
49:14
was at 66% We've been driving a
few minutes and now it's at 68.
49:19
Exactly. A public road able to
wirelessly charge Evie batteries
49:23
as they drive over asphalt. The
technology is under our feet.
49:28
Like the surface of the road
literally. The secret rubber
49:32
coated copper coils embedded in
the road that correspond with a
49:35
special receiver under the
vehicle. The technology
49:38
developed by Israel based
electric Yan who touts similar
49:41
projects in several countries,
including Sweden, where NBCs
49:45
Kelly cobia got a look last
year. So we're being charged
49:49
right now we are being charged.
Tell me why this is safe. This
49:54
is safe. This system is only
active when you have a validated
49:59
rule. vehicle with the receiver
validated
50:02
the price tag for the projects
to ultimately cover one mile of
50:06
road just under $6 million,
according to state officials,
50:09
who say the costs will plummet
as they expand, and in the next
50:12
few years, licensed receivers to
the public. Could you see this
50:16
actually being used broadly?
50:17
I can, yes, we want to get rid
of this myth of range of
50:20
guidance. You want to know that
when you get to a location,
50:23
you're able to charge your
vehicle
50:25
Motor City once again, hoping to
lead the charge into America's
50:30
future.
50:31
Adam Curry: lead the charge.
Brilliant, brilliantly written I
50:35
tell you, let's go have a beer.
No.
50:38
John C Dvorak: 6 million. My
host problem in this country.
50:43
Here we can eliminate the even
the closest concept that that
50:47
concept is not doable. The
potholes will eat into the
50:52
charging grid that's under there
doesn't electrocute someone.
50:57
It's ludicrous.
50:59
Adam Curry: And the price is
obviously I mean, that's, it's
51:03
crazy, of course $6 million for
one mile. But and by that, and
51:10
that's you know, I'm sure. I'm
just going to guess you'd
51:12
John C Dvorak: have to have a
meter on your car, because
51:14
you're not going to give you the
electricity for free. And
51:17
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
guess that. I don't know, maybe
51:21
some venture capital company had
something to do with this. You
51:24
know, this is where this is
where your green where your
51:27
green money is going to. And you
know, right on cue with all of
51:32
this, and I have to give it to
him. Elon Musk is a dynamite
51:36
marketer. He's, he knows what
he's doing. I'm gonna go cause a
51:40
ruckus and go cause a ruckus.
And then the next day I'm going
51:44
to launch my cyber truck.
51:46
Unknown: After two years of
delays in production shrinks.
51:49
Tesla has finally handed the
first cyber trucks over to
51:52
customers. Tesla CEO Elon Musk
says it has an extra safety
51:56
feature. Why do you make it
bulletproof? I'm like, why? Do
52:03
you want to how tough is your
truck? Bulletproof he says Elon
52:06
Musk says the cheapest version
of cybertruck will cost just
52:09
under $61,000. That's more than
50% over the price Musk floated
52:14
when he announced the vehicle in
2019. Dude,
52:17
Adam Curry: we were supposed to
be able to have our Tesla's do
52:22
taxi service three years ago. If
I recall correctly,
52:27
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's a
great bullshit artist. Yes.
52:29
Adam Curry: But me he uses the
momentum and he comes out with
52:32
the cybertruck and ah, the
amount of just drooling over
52:37
this thing. Drooling I mean,
anything I knew we've
52:41
John C Dvorak: seen this truck
before and he bashed it with a
52:43
hammer and he made a dent and
52:44
Adam Curry: it wasn't a hammer.
It was a was a steel ball. And
52:48
it broke the window. The window
breakable window. Yeah.
52:53
John C Dvorak: So we know about
this truck is uglier than sin.
52:56
And there's a few floating
around. People have seen him on
53:01
the road. They're here in their
their prototypes, I guess. No.
53:05
But you know, this trucks going
nowhere. But yeah, he gets all
53:10
the publicity and ease and then
they keep following up because
53:12
they're looking for more stuff
about Elon, Elon, Elon, and
53:14
boom, you get this beautiful
Yeah, he's a genius.
53:17
Adam Curry: I have to give him
that. Now, there are some
53:19
transportation things that are
very much under attack. And the
53:26
first one is air travel. Now we
know that there's a shortage of
53:29
pilots we understand the issues
with unions keep striking. They
53:34
want more money, particularly
the cabin cabin crew and I'm not
53:37
talking about cockpit but cabin
crew. They really don't want you
53:42
as a human to have a nice time
flying around on vacation doing
53:46
business. They don't want it's
ugly. It's nasty. You know,
53:50
you're polluting the world. I
mean, they come up with stuff
53:53
like this.
53:54
Unknown: Sir Richard Branson was
in the mood to brag after making
53:57
history is 787 flew from London
to New York using 100%
54:02
Sustainable aviation. It's a
blend of process cooking oil,
54:05
animal fat and corn based
kerosene using 70% less carbon
54:09
than normal flights. But Branson
admits the fuel is in short
54:11
supply and it's expensive. So
there's a long way to go before
54:14
this is streamlined.
54:16
Adam Curry: It's never more
never going to happen. It's
54:18
never gonna
54:18
John C Dvorak: Of course I've
had caught it cost more. And by
54:21
the way, they have more
significant signal it cost a
54:24
fortune and it has been reversed
blind so it's like a pain in the
54:28
ass and is stinks when you burn
it.
54:30
Adam Curry: And it dirties the
engines is all kinds of stuff
54:32
that does not make this a great
deal at all, but Richard
54:35
Branson, another great marketer,
because that's really what he
54:39
is. He's a great marketer. Gotta
give him that he doesn't run
54:43
virgin. He sold that a decade
ago. And then the final one,
54:47
this has me somewhat concerned
although it runs right into our
54:51
trans Maoist agenda, where for
years, the Federal Aviation
54:57
Administration has only been
hiring a has only been has
55:00
actually forced airlines to hire
minorities qualified or not. And
55:09
now we're down to, I think an
actual crisis. I've been hearing
55:13
a lot about this and that's the
following story.
55:17
Unknown: Tonight disturbing new
allegations and questions about
55:20
the safety of American air
travel. That was shocking.
55:24
According to The New York Times
over the past two years,
55:26
multiple air traffic controllers
have been reported for falling
55:30
asleep on the job, others
allegedly directing traffic
55:33
under the influence of alcohol
and illegal drugs. The Times
55:37
reports one air traffic
controller showed up to work
55:40
drunk joking about making big
money bust, adding another
55:44
controller routinely smoked
marijuana during breaks dozens
55:47
of interviews and government
documents not reviewed by the
55:51
newspaper described overworked
at time struggling with mental
55:56
and physical health as 1000s of
controllers retire 77% of
56:01
critical ATC facilities are
understaffed. According to a
56:04
recent government report.
shortage is coming with serious
56:08
close calls at US airports also
under scrutiny. 23 This year
56:13
alone, the air traffic
controllers union writing the
56:16
article does not portray the
professionalism and skill with
56:19
which air traffic controllers
perform their complex and
56:22
stressful duties every day. But
both the union and FAA
56:26
acknowledged there are staffing
issues. Something the FAA says
56:30
it is working to fix with so
many lives at stake. Okay,
56:35
Adam Curry: so I don't know the
truth of it. But I hear from a
56:38
lot of ATC personnel and they
say we're pretty stressed. And I
56:43
would like to say I would like
to offer I don't know if being a
56:47
pilot gives me any advantage.
But if I can go train and pitch
56:51
in on the weekend I will I don't
smoke weed anymore. But I think
56:55
there's if you had a call out
said hey, we have a shortage.
56:59
But we'll accept everybody not
just gays, blacks and women
57:02
regardless of their of their
capability and ability. This
57:11
would not be a problem.
Americans like air travel. We
57:14
are an air travel country. So
I'm up for it. Then I'm I'm sure
57:21
many other pilots who have
private pilot's Yeah, we'll
57:24
pitch in. That's the American
way. Not this bullcrap. It's
57:29
It's so tiring the story so
tiring.
57:32
Unknown: It's good story.
57:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right now
there's been a debunking of a
57:36
debunking of something that was
debunked of a debunk
57:39
John C Dvorak: of a debunking of
a debunking of something we
57:41
didn't even cover because you in
particular, thought it was
57:45
bullshit to begin with.
57:46
Adam Curry: Yeah. So when I saw
this video, which is now many of
57:49
you probably seen this, the New
Zealand database admin
57:52
whistleblower? Yeah.
57:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
already a stretch already. Yes,
57:57
I
57:58
Adam Curry: looked at the video.
And I was like, you know, and I.
58:03
Now of course, I clipped a
minute of it, just so we can
58:05
talk about it. But initially, I
was like, this is not this is
58:09
not the whole thing had Bridey
on written all over it. Sorry. I
58:14
was thinking bit shoot,
58:15
Unknown: right? Well, I was
involved with building a project
58:19
helped with implementing a
vaccine payment system for our
58:24
providers. It's called Pay per
dose system. So that means that
58:30
every time someone gets
vaccinated, they get a payment
58:34
for it as a provider. I helped
build it, I implemented it. And
58:42
when I was looking at the data,
which is part of my job, I
58:46
noticed some discrepancies with
the dates of death people can
58:52
people dying within a week have
been vaccinated? So
58:55
what did you notice when you
first started to look at this
58:59
data as you were building it?
Well,
59:02
as soon as the system went live,
we noticed that people wouldn't
59:05
die almost straightaway after
being injected. So that sort of
59:10
prompted my curiosity. And so I
dug a little. I am a scientist
59:16
by nature. I love science.
That's my all time favorite.
59:20
I've got a I've got a master's
degree in science. So
59:24
John C Dvorak: I have a master's
degree in science. Wouldn't that
59:27
be bad? Would it be a Master of
Science? Would you have a
59:31
Master's of Science degree?
Yeah. What would you say? I've
59:33
got a Master's of Science
degree, you wouldn't get a
59:36
master's degree in science.
There was no such thing. It was
59:39
just no degree that you said,
masters that have just science.
59:43
It
59:44
Adam Curry: was stuff like this
that made me go and whatever
59:47
we'll see. We'll see what comes
of it. So I don't want to waste
59:49
anybody's time. We're not the
Tim Poole show, like well,
59:54
because first of all, I think we
already believe this. We already
59:57
believe that the vaccine has
caught was much despair. I don't
1:00:02
need to see any data per se, but
now it's a story. And then so
1:00:06
you send me a substack e Gore's
newsletter.
1:00:12
John C Dvorak: It's pretty good.
By the way, generally,
1:00:13
Adam Curry: it generally is
pretty good. And he says, I
1:00:15
analyze the leak New Zealand
whistleblower data and suggest
1:00:19
to be wary of it. And he says,
bad data inconsistent story. I
1:00:24
don't know this, Igor. I mean,
he's, honestly, I did some
1:00:28
research on this guy. I'm like,
well, now he says he runs his
1:00:31
own data. So it appears the data
looks legit, but there's big
1:00:36
pieces missing from it. So you
and I are kind of like, well, I
1:00:40
think this may be was just a
bullcrap story. But then Jimmy
1:00:45
Dore has Steve Kirsch come on
his show. Now, Steve Kirsch
1:00:50
actual Masters of Science, I
believe. Yeah, they're from MIT.
1:00:55
He even has, like a an
auditorium at MIT named after
1:00:59
him. He's done quite well, these
is he, what did he do? Did he
1:01:03
make his money with the optical
mouse? Was that his main claim
1:01:06
to fame? You know, I
1:01:07
John C Dvorak: don't think I
don't remember he lives around
1:01:09
here somewhere. And talk to him
a couple of times. Over
1:01:15
directly, I've got his phone
number. And he was a he's one of
1:01:19
these guilt ridden guys because
he was a big promoter of the
1:01:22
vaccine.
1:01:23
Adam Curry: Infoseek, this
search and that InfoSec. info
1:01:28
see, now info secret was
InfoSec. Now the search engine
1:01:32
and then he had Oh, okay frame
technology, which Adobe bought.
1:01:35
So he's been around.
1:01:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's a he's
a really sharp guy. Okay,
1:01:41
though, he seems to be a guy
who's living a life of guilt,
1:01:47
because it seems that he
promoted the vaccine. And then
1:01:49
he discovered it was bold
creditors that it was bad. And
1:01:53
he turned, it became a major,
major anti COVID vaccine guy.
1:01:59
Yes. Major.
1:02:01
Adam Curry: He did. All right,
way beyond.
1:02:03
John C Dvorak: Well, we, we just
deconstruct news stories. We
1:02:06
don't take sides. So this
1:02:07
Adam Curry: is not. Jimmy Dore
got him on right away. I thought
1:02:11
that was pretty good. My point,
my point being that Steve cursed
1:02:15
us. He's a sharp guy. There's no
doubt about it. He's a sharp
1:02:19
guy. So for him to go out on
this limb. He clearly believes
1:02:23
in what he's saying. And I
pulled a couple of clips from
1:02:25
well,
1:02:25
Unknown: I got the data. And I
think I was the first person in
1:02:28
the world outside of the
whistleblower dude to get the
1:02:31
data. So it got uploaded to my,
my, I have a wasabi server,
1:02:36
Adam Curry: we need one of
those, John, we need a wasabi
1:02:38
server, whatever it is, I want
one.
1:02:40
Unknown: And the data was
uploaded in November. And though
1:02:47
the whistle blower asked me to
keep it quiet until November 30.
1:02:52
And on November 30, I had a
speech in the MIT auditorium,
1:02:57
the Kirsch auditorium, it's
named after me. And they
1:03:00
actually let me speak there
because the student group was
1:03:03
willing to sponsor my speaking
there. But they couldn't find an
1:03:07
MIT faculty member who was
willing to sponsor me to speak
1:03:11
about the truth about the COVID
vaccines, but fortunately, a
1:03:13
student group invited me and so
I spoke about this, this huge
1:03:20
data dump from New Zealand, and
they've confirmed that it is
1:03:24
legitimate data from a
legitimate source. And that data
1:03:29
shows there's no way you can
analyze this and come to any
1:03:33
other conclusion other than the
vaccines have killed massive
1:03:37
numbers of people about one in
1000 which means the vaccines
1:03:40
have killed 675,000 People in
America and 13 about 13 million
1:03:47
people worldwide.
1:03:50
Adam Curry: All right, he has my
attention. And he's going to go
1:03:52
into some
1:03:53
John C Dvorak: by the end by the
way on this show, months and
1:03:56
months and months ago, we had to
one in 1000 number oh yeah, this
1:04:00
is not necessarily Mrs. None of
this is new.
1:04:03
Adam Curry: So this kind of
leads me to believe that this
1:04:06
data has been so this data has
been out for at least a month
1:04:09
people have had it I'm sure
Kirsch wasn't the only guy
1:04:12
perhaps we have this this
controversy Dare I say thrown
1:04:17
into the ether so that it can be
similar some summarily dismissed
1:04:22
by mainstream to say Nah, you
know, these guys, nut job,
1:04:26
Master of Science, whatever
Steve Kershel anti Vax maybe
1:04:31
it's just been thrown into this,
this tumbler so that now it can
1:04:36
be dismissed as a bunch of
nutjob high up thank you.
1:04:39
Unknown: It's all the records in
a particular database in the New
1:04:42
Zealand Ministry of Health. So
this is 1/3 of all the
1:04:46
vaccination records for the New
Zealand for New Zealand. And so
1:04:52
with this data, which includes
the death data and the date of
1:04:57
birth, we can calculate To
everything we want to calculate
1:05:02
in order to show whether the
vaccines are safe and effective,
1:05:05
there's only one way to do this
calculation. And there's only
1:05:10
one result of the calculation.
And there's only one way to
1:05:13
interpret the results of the
calculation. And it shows
1:05:17
massive numbers of people
killed, effective 13 million
1:05:23
people were killed by their
governments worldwide. And this
1:05:26
data proves now there are people
who are skilled at gaslighting
1:05:32
people and trying to convince
them that this data shows
1:05:35
something other than what it
does.
1:05:37
Adam Curry: So there he's saying
looks like there could be some
1:05:40
psyop going on. That's how the
creative or I Consulting Group
1:05:44
analyze everything is yeah, we
do. So then he's going to go
1:05:48
into the analysis of the data.
Because this is not a new
1:05:51
analysis that's been done, as
you just said, we had this
1:05:55
information, the correct
1:05:56
Unknown: way to analyze this
data is to do a time series
1:05:59
cohort analysis, which is the
most sophisticated analysis
1:06:03
that's available for data like
this. This is what the
1:06:06
epidemiologists use. This is
what the UK Office of National
1:06:11
Statistics used to prove the
vaccines are safe and effective.
1:06:15
So it's a known technique is
generally accepted in the
1:06:19
community. And it's the most
sophisticated technique. And it
1:06:24
was only the UK ons which use
the sophisticated technique. And
1:06:28
of course, their data was very
flawed. But even then, it's
1:06:31
still showed the same signal, as
in the New Zealand data. And we
1:06:35
see the same signal in the US
Medicare data, which is all gold
1:06:39
standard data. So you have the
UK, New Zealand, and the United
1:06:44
States of America, all showing
the same result, which is you
1:06:49
take these vaccines, and your
risk of dying, the next day is
1:06:54
higher than it was the day
before. And it keeps going up
1:06:58
and up and up. So
1:06:59
Adam Curry: this to me is a very
level headed dissection or
1:07:03
analysis of the data. Because we
were promised safe and effective
1:07:07
we know effective fell by the
wayside. Right away. The safe
1:07:12
side is what's in question. So,
you know, the entire, the entire
1:07:18
reason I believe, for this to be
so controversial, is to make it
1:07:22
dismissible by government
agencies because they are hiding
1:07:26
it as witness in his third and
final clip. So
1:07:30
Unknown: for dose two, for
example, in the United States of
1:07:33
America, we have the Medicare
data that proves this. In the
1:07:36
United States of America, you
take those two, your risk goes
1:07:40
up every single day, for 365
days in a row. And it goes up at
1:07:47
the end of 365 days. It's
climbed by 26% over baseline 26%
1:07:54
over baseline it should be
falling by 4%. Because this is
1:08:00
Medicare data, and then the
Medicare mortality is about 4%
1:08:03
per year. So this data, when you
look at these people who have
1:08:07
been vaccinated with with those
two, and you take them and you
1:08:11
look at how they die over time,
there should be like 4% of them
1:08:15
should die over a period of 12
months. And what we're finding
1:08:22
is an accelerated death rate
that is about it's it's 30%.
1:08:27
Differential from the 4% It's
supposed to go down. So there's
1:08:33
no doubt about it. There. You
can have have the death curve
1:08:39
march up in a straight line for
12 months without any
1:08:44
fluctuations whatsoever. It is
like clockwork it is the most
1:08:49
beautiful graph I have ever
seen. And I just got it recently
1:08:54
from a whistleblower inside of
health and human services
1:08:57
because the CDC doesn't disclose
this data. They have the data
1:09:01
the CDC has access to this
Medicare data with vaccines and
1:09:05
deaths they refuse to analyze
it.
1:09:10
Adam Curry: So Long live the
dudes named Ben they're not all
1:09:15
as articulate like our boy
they're New Zealand's because it
1:09:18
didn't come out right and he
didn't find the right partner to
1:09:21
blow the whistle with. But I
liked Steve Kirsch his the way
1:09:25
he talks about this analysis I
think sounds good particularly.
1:09:29
If you add to it this one minute
clip from the gold standard
1:09:33
Peter McCullough. The man cannot
be taken down because of his
1:09:37
credentials. Who said this just
this last week
1:09:40
Unknown: now I mentioned the
vaccines since 2021. The
1:09:44
vaccines has ravaged the
population in the world.
1:09:50
Worldwide. Two thirds of people
took a vaccine the United States
1:09:53
COVID Community states study
shows 75% of Americans took a
1:09:57
vaccine thankfully 25% Didn't I
was the only public health and
1:10:04
public figure in the United
States in writing to question
1:10:06
the vaccines before they came
up. And I did it as loudly as I
1:10:10
could. To COVID-19 vaccines, the
United States, 94% of Americans
1:10:16
took a messenger RNA vaccine. It
is the genetic code for the
1:10:21
potentially lethal spike protein
part of the virus. It was the
1:10:25
worst idea ever to install the
genetic code by injection, and
1:10:31
allow unbridled production of a
potentially lethal protein in
1:10:36
the human body for an
uncontrolled duration of time.
1:10:41
Everything we've learned about
the vaccine, since they come out
1:10:43
is horrifying.
1:10:46
Adam Curry: So to be clear, I
certainly don't think everybody
1:10:50
who was Vax is going to die.
There's no evidence of that. But
1:10:54
anecdotally, and you and I just
talked about this the other day,
1:10:57
and I'm going to go into all of
our I'm going to do that. After
1:11:01
I get back from Indian life.
Indianapolis. So it'll be next
1:11:05
maybe Thursday show, I am going
to take a look at the increase
1:11:10
in producers who have in their
notes mentioned, friends or
1:11:16
spouses dying, and the amount of
karma F current cancer karma
1:11:21
requests. You and I anecdotally
have seen these go up? Yeah,
1:11:25
tripled? Yes. While you're
saying trip, I'm gonna get the
1:11:28
actual number. So there's that.
But will this ever really be
1:11:37
discussed? At the level it
should be? No
1:11:40
John C Dvorak: doubtful.
Doubtful. Why would it be an
1:11:43
embarrassment? Steve
1:11:45
Adam Curry: Kirsch added in a in
a slash today? That's what you
1:11:48
do on extra slash? You lash
Yeah, I call this lash just
1:11:52
formerly known as tweet. You
slash on x. You can now sue the
1:11:57
mRNA COVID vaccine manufacturers
for damages and the FDA is
1:12:01
required to take the COVID
vaccines off the market why?
1:12:04
adulteration which we talked
about the plasmid by act active
1:12:08
contaminant sequences were not
pointed out to the regulatory
1:12:11
authorities it is considered
adulteration. He says he got off
1:12:14
the phone with his lawyers. And
he says that you can sue. And
1:12:18
I'm sure that they're already
lawsuits in the making. Yeah,
1:12:21
there's plenty for what good
it'll do. What good? No, no,
1:12:25
probably not. It's
1:12:26
John C Dvorak: a concerted
effort by the media. Right at
1:12:29
the very top of the pyramid. And
the government. Yes. Yeah. And
1:12:34
the media is still there. You
can I can turn on the TV right
1:12:37
now and hear somebody tell Oh,
get a shot. Get a COVID get a
1:12:39
COVID shot and other COVID shots
good for you. And never ends.
1:12:46
Adam Curry: In fact, what did I
read? I read the other day, Mia,
1:12:48
we had the triple Demick last
year. This year they're talking
1:12:53
about I don't have a clip of it
yet. We're waiting for the first
1:12:55
one to pop up. Sin Demick sy n
sin Demick What's that mean?
1:13:01
Well, I guess that's more than
three cups endemic? I'm gonna
1:13:06
see if it's popped up anywhere
yet.
1:13:08
John C Dvorak: By the way, I
wanted to get back to this we
1:13:10
talked about the cop thing. Do
you know what cops stands for?
1:13:14
Adam Curry: So go look it up
citizens on patrol? Exactly. I
1:13:19
knew that sin Demick sin Demick.
Sin Demings model of health
1:13:29
focuses on the biosocial complex
which consists of interacting co
1:13:33
present or sequential sequential
diseases. And the social
1:13:37
environmental factors is climate
change. There's not going to
1:13:40
catch a climate change is
killing us now. I know what it
1:13:44
John C Dvorak: stands for
Conference of the Parties. Oh,
1:13:48
Adam Curry: interesting.
1:13:49
John C Dvorak: What does that
even mean? Well, that's the
1:13:53
parties
1:13:53
Adam Curry: are having a party.
1:13:56
John C Dvorak: You're in Dubai
believe that. You're gonna be
1:13:58
partying as if
1:13:59
Adam Curry: your conference of
partying? Yeah, well, that makes
1:14:01
sense. And meanwhile, we have we
have a new term finally for this
1:14:07
China thing.
1:14:08
Unknown: Well, there's a health
warning out of Ohio this week
1:14:10
after a rise in childhood
pneumonia cases. Some are
1:14:14
calling it white lung syndrome.
We're gonna we're gonna get to
1:14:16
that in just a second what
exactly that is I want to talk
1:14:19
to Dr. Florin with Lurie
Children's Hospital about this.
1:14:22
He is in charge of a
pediatrician at he's a
1:14:25
pediatrician at Lurie Children's
Hospital so it seems like at
1:14:28
least around here in our
newsroom and all my friends I
1:14:31
feel like everybody has been
sick not just for like a week or
1:14:33
two but they have this sort of
lingering cough that seems to
1:14:37
last for
1:14:38
Adam Curry: a show. Listen,
there's something coming up that
1:14:41
a clip just for you. The whole
reason for this clip, they just
1:14:43
gonna talk over it and cough. I
1:14:47
Unknown: only I only band Mum,
1:14:49
Adam Curry: I play these clips
for you. I'm not planning for
1:14:51
anybody. All my clips are for
you. They have this
1:14:54
Unknown: sort of lingering cough
that seems to last for weeks. Is
1:14:58
it something out of the ordinary
or is Something that happens
1:15:00
sort of every year, and we're
just sort of overreacting to it
1:15:04
this time around. Yeah,
1:15:05
no, it's a great question, I
1:15:06
think. Yeah, no.
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, it's a
great question doesn't
1:15:12
Adam Curry: get any better than
that. Yeah, no, it's a great
1:15:15
Unknown: question. And we're
1:15:16
John C Dvorak: missing was yeah,
no, it's a great question. Look,
1:15:19
Unknown: I can do it this time
around. Yeah. No, it's a great
1:15:22
question. I think we're all
hyper sensitized. Yeah, for what
1:15:24
we experienced.
1:15:25
Adam Curry: Anyway, this white.
So it is interesting that it's
1:15:27
Ohio. As we know, Ohio has
direct flights from China. So
1:15:32
maybe they brought over some
white lung syndrome. And that,
1:15:35
of course, has led some
Republicans to take a well known
1:15:39
step in these types of
operations.
1:15:41
Unknown: Hoefler. Tonight, both
of Florida's US Senators urging
1:15:44
the White House to stop travel
to and from China, Senators
1:15:47
Marco Rubio and Rick Scott are
among several Republican
1:15:50
lawmakers warning about a
mysterious respiratory illness,
1:15:53
they say is spreading in the
Asian country. They sent a
1:15:56
letter to President Joe Biden
today saying in part that travel
1:15:59
should immediately be restricted
quote, until we know more about
1:16:03
the dangers posed by this new
illness.
1:16:06
Adam Curry: Yeah, lock him down,
lock him down lock downs come in
1:16:09
lock downs. And now a clip that
is paused specifically because
1:16:14
you know a lot about this. Dr.
1:16:16
Unknown: Mani Cohen assure
lawmakers yesterday that a new
1:16:18
virus is not causing the surge.
Listen to this view of COVID. We
1:16:24
do not believe this is a new or
novel pathogen that we believe
1:16:28
this is all existing meaning
COVID Flu RSV. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
1:16:33
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta
joins us now Sanjay, good
1:16:35
morning, always good to have you
on what can be behind this. And
1:16:38
how concerned should people be?
1:16:41
One thing that appears to be
complicating things, especially
1:16:43
in China is also bacterial
infections, they seem to be a
1:16:49
large part of what's driving
this as well. And they have a
1:16:52
lot of antibiotic resistance in
China. So this is something that
1:16:56
we're really keeping an eye on.
If you look at deaths associated
1:16:59
with antibiotic resistance
around the world, it's close to
1:17:02
5 million a year. I mean, people
may not realize that big in
1:17:05
China alone 600,000. So this is
also I think, further
1:17:09
complicating things that with
regard to this uptick, they're
1:17:12
likely to get it under control.
But they gotta keep an eye on
1:17:14
this problem. I mean, you know,
in China, for example, many
1:17:17
antibiotics are sold over the
counter. So that just sort of
1:17:20
fuels the problem. There's also
a lot of antibiotic use in
1:17:23
livestock. So there's all these
different places, we have to
1:17:27
sort of curb the use of
antibiotics. And I will tell you
1:17:30
this, it takes a long time to
develop new antibiotics that can
1:17:34
take you know, 10 to 15 years,
which is why there are people
1:17:37
around the world right now who
are trying to find alternative
1:17:41
sources of antibiotics. They're
scouring the bottoms of the
1:17:44
ocean with chips, and they're
looking even within nature to
1:17:47
see if something can serve as an
antibiotic. Now,
1:17:51
Adam Curry: we've discussed this
in the in the history of the
1:17:53
show many times, and you know a
lot about it.
1:17:56
John C Dvorak: I do. Yeah, I do
know, one thing is that the drug
1:18:00
companies, these hot shots that
are making billions of dollars
1:18:03
with vaccines, and the fact that
they make more money with that,
1:18:06
and they're not liable for
anything, have given up on
1:18:09
researching Babett antibiotics,
they've stopped, their
1:18:13
antibiotics labs have all been
closed down. They don't care
1:18:16
anymore, because they're just
after the money. And the
1:18:20
government said nothing to
counter this. That's the big
1:18:23
thing. I told you, you know a
lot about it. I'm just great
1:18:27
dosing.
1:18:29
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, sad news
for Pfizer, they've had to halt
1:18:33
the development of their twice
daily weight loss drug. They
1:18:37
were trying to hop on the
sediment semaglutide train the
1:18:42
GLP one drugs. Sad day, they
halted it because up to 73% of
1:18:48
people in the test experienced
nausea, up to 47% reported
1:18:53
vomiting, and 25% experienced
diarrhea. I thought that was the
1:18:57
feature of these drugs. And it
does so to
1:19:00
John C Dvorak: lose weight that
way. I mean, you can do it
1:19:03
yourself. It's called bulimia.
But nobody wants to do that
1:19:07
anymore.
1:19:07
Adam Curry: I mean, we did hear
from our, our psychiatrist. I
1:19:11
remember the one who talked, who
told us about how the how
1:19:16
control the psychiatrists are
when it comes to telling
1:19:18
children after one visit. Yep,
Bureau boy, you gotta get on
1:19:21
some drugs. Remember this? Yeah.
All right. So turns out, she
1:19:26
just wanted to say that she
wrote a very long piece in here.
1:19:31
She comes from a background her
mom was 400 pounds her entire
1:19:35
life she had she said this is
interesting. Watching her over
1:19:39
the years I learned how to hoard
and sneak food eat it very
1:19:43
quickly, because otherwise she
would eat it first, which I
1:19:46
thought was funny. Like, I
adopted and created many food
1:19:49
games I would play to try and
control my cravings and intake
1:19:53
nothing worked. I was overweight
most of my life. She says that
1:19:56
she had the food noise in her
head and Um, her. Her obesity
1:20:02
came from childhood trauma. You
know, basically she wanted to
1:20:07
not be attractive because of
some abuse that she had as a
1:20:11
young child. This is very well
known. This happens a lot,
1:20:14
especially to young girls. But
she ends by saying 34 years old
1:20:21
now, at 34 years old, I'm now 43
Everything changed. I sought out
1:20:25
Overeaters Anonymous, they
sister program to Alcoholics
1:20:28
Anonymous. Now, they of course
have a religious part to this.
1:20:34
So she's embraced God and
spirituality but along with
1:20:37
that, Kim a very strong
influence to not eat foods that
1:20:40
contain sugar, and over
processed foods, then she has
1:20:46
lost 115 pounds she actually
sent two pictures before and
1:20:49
after them. So she is just
saying that the food noise is
1:20:53
real, but it's coming from sugar
addiction and unprocessed foods,
1:21:00
which is the real problem, which
is which is the issue that we
1:21:03
have and I saw this in the
Netherlands where we used to go
1:21:08
to the butcher get your beef, we
went to the actual Baker and we
1:21:11
got our bread the milkman
dropped the milk off in the in
1:21:14
the bottles and everyone biked
to school, no matter what,
1:21:18
whether now, and now you go
look, they're getting fat.
1:21:23
They're getting obese because
they've got processed food,
1:21:25
they've got fast foods, we got
all kinds of stuff. All all bad
1:21:31
intake, and it's about to get
worse now for business news tick
1:21:35
tock is one of the world's
that's not what I wanted. I'm
1:21:37
sorry, I forgot to cut it stay
1:21:38
Unknown: competitive with higher
end.
1:21:41
John C Dvorak: Girls, after
sorry, late when you do the big
1:21:46
grandiose. I
1:21:47
Unknown: screw it up. The Wall
Street Journal reports that the
1:21:50
chain has been working for the
past McDonald's seven years on
1:21:54
improving its signature
hamburgers. After a test run in
1:21:57
Australia. These 50 tweaks which
include a brioche bun, fresher
1:22:02
patties and more sauce. Well,
they'll be unveiled in the
1:22:05
United States that why is
McDonald's doing this well to
1:22:08
stay competitive with higher end
chains that have taken a $2.4
1:22:13
billion chunk out of the United
States $72 billion burger
1:22:18
market. Needless to say the
rollout is massive with 10s of
1:22:22
1000s of McDonald's workers
across the globe. No news yet
1:22:27
though. We'll about when these
changes will come to the
1:22:29
European McDonald's. So
1:22:31
Adam Curry: McDonald's is going
to make 55 Zero improvements to
1:22:35
its hamburger. How about better
meat?
1:22:39
John C Dvorak: Well, how about
they've been they've been
1:22:42
devolving their burgers I
haven't had when I do like to do
1:22:46
a quarterly report for
Horowitz's show and and I'm here
1:22:50
to try to have one of these I
can't last time I couldn't even
1:22:54
eat it but so I but I do get the
ice cream cone once in a while
1:22:58
when it's hot out. But when I do
that I go through the normal
1:23:02
line and the drive thru and I
look at the menu yes and I gotta
1:23:07
get bring the camera and go get
another ice cream cone because
1:23:09
this you know what? A quarter
pounders like $11.10 bucks for a
1:23:17
Big Mac. These used to be when I
was a kid. This used to be the
1:23:21
15 cent hamburger place 15 cents
that 15 cent burger now is
1:23:27
almost three bucks. I mean what
did inflation does it no no I
1:23:31
know how dad got the inflation
tables this is way beyond
1:23:35
inflation and in the same during
that same period Dave to quality
1:23:39
has gone nothing but downhill.
Well,
1:23:42
Adam Curry: there's a couple of
things one minimum wage
1:23:45
requirements mainly in
California for fast food workers
1:23:48
unionization this is this is
it's all been predicted. Well
1:23:52
you know if you if you want if
you want to do that, then you
1:23:54
know pressure your burger is
gonna go up. But I'm very
1:23:57
curious to see a what they did
to improve their burger 50
1:24:02
steps. That's got to be taste
and texture products they're
1:24:06
mixing in to get ready for every
morning show in America. Boy,
1:24:12
oh, let's try the new burgers
we're on all the native ads are
1:24:15
going to start coming in.
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: It'd be great.
It'd
1:24:18
Adam Curry: be dropping that
will be fun. And But meanwhile,
1:24:21
if that's too expensive for you,
1:24:22
John C Dvorak: this is the best
burger I think I've ever had.
1:24:25
There's gonna be there's the
line. Yeah, I would write this
1:24:27
line and put it into the script
that they have to somebody has
1:24:30
to say this. You know, it'd be
elrow could be good at this. I
1:24:33
think this is the best burger
I've ever eaten. This
1:24:35
Adam Curry: reminds me of the
burgers I had with a kid when I
1:24:38
was a kid. That's the line I'd
write this. gone back to the
1:24:41
base of this. Whatever
McDonald's has done. Its magic.
1:24:45
They got better cows. And it's
this is this goes back to the
1:24:49
burger I tasted when I was a
kid. I'm selling his burger
1:24:52
classic. If you can't afford
that we have a solution for you
1:24:57
Unknown: for macaroni and cheese
that has no dairy newly released
1:25:00
today by Chicago based Kraft
Foods
1:25:02
it's called not mac and cheese
and it was developed with
1:25:05
Chicago startup not called.
Kraft is offering two versions
1:25:09
original and white cheddar. The
fake cheese will be made out of
1:25:12
fava beans and coconut oil
powder. It follows other plant
1:25:16
based products cheese slices and
mayonnaise released earlier this
1:25:19
year. Looks like mac and cheese
tastes like mac and cheese, not
1:25:23
mac and cheese.
1:25:25
John C Dvorak: You slaves can
get used the Mac the mac and
1:25:28
cheese macaroni and cheese
shatter melted together mac and
1:25:32
cheese
1:25:33
Adam Curry: mac and cheese mac
and cheese so it doesn't even
1:25:36
have cheap cheddar in it
anymore. And we've been on the
1:25:39
mac and cheese thing for 14
years. Maybe even longer. We
1:25:44
have said this would be the
future of food and here we are
1:25:47
right again. The future of food
we were wrong on the fact that
1:25:53
it would be cheese
1:25:56
John C Dvorak: is not even
cheese's fava beans or some damn
1:25:59
thing it's processed by a
refinery is disgusting.
1:26:05
Adam Curry: It's unbelievable.
Now I believe it's believable.
1:26:08
This is where we are this is
where we're at.
1:26:10
John C Dvorak: This is it. So
I'm going to play three clips
1:26:12
that are a different topic.
Okay. Because this is coming
1:26:16
this is coming to a head and the
clips are the it says f e i
1:26:21
think is GA but this f e o RG vs
vs. Oh
1:26:24
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, this is a
great case. And this case
1:26:27
John C Dvorak: is interesting
because it's it's it may or may
1:26:30
not did. But I'll tell you what
the issue is as we play a few
1:26:34
these glimpses PLAY CLIP one.
The
1:26:36
Unknown: Supreme Court is
considering how much authority
1:26:39
federal government agencies
have. The Biden administration
1:26:42
has appealed a lower court
decision in favor of hedge fund
1:26:45
manager and conservative radio
jockey George dark hazy, the SEC
1:26:50
find dark hazy and barred him
from the industry after finding
1:26:53
he committed securities fraud.
The lower court then rolled a
1:26:56
drug case he should have been
allowed a jury trial, we turn
1:27:00
out to our Legal Correspondent,
Arlene Richards to sort out the
1:27:03
arguments. Arlene in layman's
terms. What happened here?
1:27:07
Well, to state it simply the SEC
is a government agency. And for
1:27:11
years, it has been initiating
claims against individuals
1:27:14
through its in house tribunal
system rather than going to an
1:27:18
outside court. Now Congress gave
them that power under the
1:27:21
Securities and Exchange Act.
They use the same system in this
1:27:25
case, which find in BB George
dark hazy for securities fraud.
1:27:29
Now he appealed to the Fifth
Circuit Court of Appeals, sir
1:27:32
Casey's attorney argued that the
SEC is powers should be
1:27:36
restricted by the Seventh
Amendment of the Constitution,
1:27:40
which gives individuals the
right to a jury trial. At oral
1:27:43
argument today, he said that
basic securities fraud is a
1:27:47
typically common law claim, and
therefore this client should
1:27:51
have gotten a jury trial in a
federal court. So this case is
1:27:55
about what is the extent of
those Seventh Amendment
1:27:57
restrictions in securities fraud
cases where the SEC is seeking
1:28:02
penalties. In this case, the
Fifth Circuit also ruled that
1:28:06
the SEC has actions violated
articles one and two of the
1:28:10
constitution. So the court
effectively invalidated three
1:28:14
aspects of the SEC is
operations. Yeah,
1:28:18
Adam Curry: this could change
the entire administrative slash
1:28:21
Deep State.
1:28:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but the
problem is this case is stepping
1:28:27
on the upcoming case about
Chevron deference. Yes, yes.
1:28:32
Which is better. That's, that's
the case, which is a killer,
1:28:35
because it's about some guy in a
fishing boat where he had to
1:28:38
hire inspectors and he had to
pay the for the inspector or
1:28:42
government inspectors would be
on his boat. And it was just a
1:28:46
complete. The problem was
administrative law. It was
1:28:49
always accepted, accepted by the
insofar as
1:28:54
Adam Curry: I have, after your
clips, I have a 45 second clip
1:28:57
that explains Chevron deference.
1:29:00
John C Dvorak: Okay, so the
point is, is that the Chevron
1:29:03
deference case will be the one
that can screw over
1:29:06
administrative law, because of
abuse of power, which is what's
1:29:11
happened with that upcoming
Case. This case is a bad case
1:29:16
because it could step in and
under some circumstance, create
1:29:21
a precedent that would set rule
over
1:29:25
Adam Curry: Oh, so this guy is a
see a shield?
1:29:29
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
so. I think there's just an
1:29:30
accident, but they've everyone's
glommed onto it, knowing the
1:29:34
potential for it being
destructive. Insofar as the
1:29:38
Chevron deference cases concern
which everybody's freaked out
1:29:42
about, they are freaked out,
because what that case would do
1:29:46
was take away this, these, these
kangaroo courts and all the rest
1:29:50
of it has to be all rethought is
a major major case. This case
1:29:54
here may screw it up. Let's Play
Part Two,
1:29:56
Unknown: presumably the SEC
followed the same proceedings
1:29:59
that it usually does to handle
suspected fraud. How is this
1:30:03
case? Are the proceedings
different from other cases?
1:30:06
Well, the proceeding itself was
not different. But I think the
1:30:09
issues raised on appeal were
different. And of course, the
1:30:13
Fifth Circuit's decision was
unexpected. Now the court
1:30:16
decided that Congress violated
the Seventh Amendment when it
1:30:20
gave the SEC the power to
initiate administrative
1:30:24
proceedings and seek penalties,
and that by giving them this
1:30:27
power, the SEC has unrestricted
authority to choose cases and
1:30:32
seek remedies without going to a
federal court. And the Fifth
1:30:36
Circuit said fraud actions like
this case should be handled
1:30:40
under federal common law and not
by independent agency action.
1:30:44
It seems like the Fifth Circuit
unilaterally changed a law or
1:30:48
proceeding that has always been
used by the SEC. What was the
1:30:52
Biden administration's response
to the ruling?
1:30:54
Well, the Biden administration
is, of course very concerned
1:30:57
about this ruling. Notably, the
SEC is five member commission is
1:31:01
appointed by the president with
the consent of the Senate. So
1:31:04
this ruling undercuts the
administration's authority.
1:31:08
Their response to this decision
is that the SEC has a long
1:31:12
standing practice of filing
cases under the Securities and
1:31:15
Exchange Act. It uses an
administrative proceeding that
1:31:19
sends these cases to an
administrative law judge, and
1:31:22
that Judge reviews evidence,
holds hearings and hears
1:31:25
arguments. If the defendant
doesn't agree with the decision,
1:31:29
he has the right to appeal to a
court of appeals, which is what
1:31:33
happened here. So in other
words, he got due process. They
1:31:37
argued that the Fifth Circuit
made significant errors in its
1:31:40
ruling, because Congress does in
fact, have the power to appoint
1:31:44
individual matters to agencies,
even if they involve common law
1:31:48
issues.
1:31:49
Adam Curry: This is kind of the
same thing with the IRS, where
1:31:52
the IRS who have guns by the
way, they've showed up in my
1:31:55
office with guns. They, you
know, if you want to appeal a
1:32:00
ruling by the IRS, you can but
you got to have like $100,000 to
1:32:04
mount a case, which is why most
people don't do it. But this
1:32:08
guy's a Wall Street guy. So he
said, Screw it, I'm going for
1:32:11
it.
1:32:14
John C Dvorak: Okay, part three.
1:32:15
Unknown: They also argued that
Congress's power to delegate
1:32:18
matters to agencies doesn't
depend on whether or not the
1:32:22
case is uniquely suited for
agency review.
1:32:25
Now, what are some of the
concerns expressed by the
1:32:27
Supreme Court justices today
during oral argument?
1:32:31
Well, I think the biggest
concern here is what effect this
1:32:34
change would ultimately have.
And one of the justices noted
1:32:38
that this involves asking the
court to change the law, and she
1:32:43
expressed concern that it would
require changing the powers of
1:32:47
all federal agencies, Dr.
Casey's attorney said this could
1:32:51
be fixed by giving the people a
choice of which Tribunal can
1:32:55
review the case. But I think
many of the justices were
1:32:58
concerned that the federal
courts would now be burdened
1:33:01
with an increase of cases. And
actually, some experts have said
1:33:05
this decision is particularly
troublesome for federal banking
1:33:09
regulators who solely rely upon
in house tribunals. Those
1:33:14
regulators don't have the option
to file claims in federal
1:33:17
courts. But the court today,
Tiffany seems to be considering
1:33:21
the suggestion that individuals
should have an option to choose
1:33:25
the tribunal.
1:33:27
Adam Curry: So here is a 40. I
think it's a 45. Second
1:33:31
explainer from last year,
November last year about the
1:33:36
Chevron deference case,
1:33:38
Unknown: Tony asks off topic,
but can you explain Chevron
1:33:40
deference and the rule of
lenity, the Chevron is not a use
1:33:43
of force doctrine. So it's not
my area of expertise, but just
1:33:46
you know, general legal
knowledge. Chevron was the
1:33:48
Supreme Court case in which the
Supreme Court essentially said
1:33:52
that if there's an
administrative decision by part
1:33:55
of the executive branch, the EPA
makes some kind of
1:33:58
administrative decision. It's
not a statute passed by the
1:34:01
legislature by Congress signed
by the President. It's not a law
1:34:05
in that sense. It's not case
law. It's not an appellate court
1:34:07
ruling.
1:34:08
Adam Curry: It's just the EPA
makes an administrative decision
1:34:10
that that is treated much as if
it were a statute or was case
1:34:14
law and is equally binding. The
effect is to give the
1:34:17
administrative state the
bureaucracy, incredible power
1:34:20
and authority that many argue I
would argue they should not have
1:34:23
been so that could go back and
then the administrative state
1:34:26
would have to adhere to the
rules as passed by Congress. And
1:34:30
Congress has to be more
specific, because they Congress
1:34:33
has to do some work. Yeah,
because they just go Yeah,
1:34:35
that's good. But we'll let the
EPA figure it out. Well, at the
1:34:38
IRS figured out but the SEC
figured out
1:34:40
John C Dvorak: the irony of the
whole Chevron deference case,
1:34:44
which I think is
underappreciated, especially in
1:34:47
its ironic for him is that it
came out of the Reagan
1:34:50
administration. Oh really? And
it came out because because they
1:34:55
loosened that a Reagan told the
EPA No, no, no, you guys are too
1:35:00
strict, you've got to pull back
these various, you know, these
1:35:04
these these requirements of
loosen regulations because it
1:35:07
was, you know, and so they did
so they loosened regulations and
1:35:11
got sued for loosening
regulations by dropping the
1:35:16
standards. They got sued by a
bunch of environmental groups
1:35:20
that went to the
1:35:21
Adam Curry: probably Kennedy. It
went betcha
1:35:27
John C Dvorak: I don't know. But
it went back to the Supreme
1:35:30
Court. They said, Look, did they
say, look, they said, look,
1:35:37
here's what we're gonna do,
because they ended up I think
1:35:39
Chevron got involved by being
sued, because they took
1:35:41
advantage of the new, looser
regulations. And then they got
1:35:44
sued by the local law,
environmentalists. And they did
1:35:48
the whole thing went to court
and the Supreme Court said,
1:35:50
look, look, look. They said,
what, what we have here is a
1:35:55
situation where we have to, we
have all these administrative
1:35:59
laws it whatever they say goes.
And so if they want to loosen
1:36:05
the law, fine, if they want to
tighten it fine, and that's the
1:36:08
way it is. And then that was,
became the Chevron deference.
1:36:11
And they've sort of they've
environmentalists kind of lost
1:36:13
the case. But that's where it
started. So nobody thought about
1:36:17
well, instead of going getting
looser and making less
1:36:21
regulations, because you just do
it on demand. I'm a regulator i
1:36:24
these regulations, I'm going to
change your mold and nothing.
1:36:27
You get a bunch of assholes in
there doing crazy stuff, like
1:36:30
making requirements that are
unobtainable, which is where we
1:36:33
are now. So now this case is you
know, it's abuse of power. It's
1:36:37
very interesting, kind of a
switcheroo there, which happens
1:36:40
is what, what happens when the
or they overdo things
1:36:44
Adam Curry: since you bring up
Reagan? I watched the Arnold
1:36:48
Schwarzenegger documentary on
Netflix. Yeah, it's a three
1:36:53
parter. And for the it's so it's
three hours, basically, the
1:36:58
first two and a half hours.
You're like, wow, America is
1:37:02
great. What a great country.
Look at this guy. Look at what
1:37:06
he did look at how America
worked for him. It's just
1:37:11
everything is beautiful. It's
like apple pie almost is so
1:37:14
good. It's so beautiful. And
then it gets to the part where
1:37:18
Arnold Schwarzenegger runs for
reelection as governor of
1:37:22
California. And he goes, he got
he put the this the state in
1:37:27
debt for $222 billion for solar
crap before climate change,
1:37:34
because he decided to work. Oh,
I got two hands across the
1:37:37
aisle. And then he left. I mean,
it was the other states were
1:37:41
worse by the time 2008 came
around. But it's it's really
1:37:46
disappointing to see how this
kind of a good guy got
1:37:51
completely captured because he
tried to be nice, co opted, yes.
1:37:55
He tried to be nice. And those
exact same climate change rules
1:38:01
and regulations that he put into
California is what Obama
1:38:04
nationalized. This even this,
it's all in there. Obama won.
1:38:08
Hey, Arnold was great. Let's do
this for all 50 states. And this
1:38:12
was it was
1:38:13
John C Dvorak: yeah, thanks to
his wife.
1:38:17
Adam Curry: Well, he was Maria
and I think they were divorced
1:38:20
by then.
1:38:20
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
so. I think when he first
1:38:22
started with the climate stuff,
he was already Yeah. Could be
1:38:26
could be that was really near
the end when he was Yeah, is
1:38:30
stupid is made by No,
1:38:32
Adam Curry: that was that was 96
is when Joseph was born. I mean,
1:38:37
it wasn't no, no,
1:38:39
John C Dvorak: when he got
caught. Well, it was pretty old.
1:38:42
But
1:38:44
Adam Curry: he was 14 You know
how that went. So, of course, he
1:38:47
was, you know, he was the
governor and he was in
1:38:50
Sacramento. So you know, it's
very difficult on a family, and
1:38:54
they were going to they were in
therapy together. And one day,
1:38:59
he's in therapy, and the
therapist says, okay, Maria
1:39:02
wants to ask you a question. And
she says, yeah, it's Joseph your
1:39:05
son. And he said, Well, at that
point, I just told the truth.
1:39:08
And then boom was all over. And
he's it's kind of sad because
1:39:11
he's alone now. You know, he's,
he's 70.
1:39:16
John C Dvorak: Donkey that he
lives with the donkeys.
1:39:19
Adam Curry: They're the donkeys
in the house. Talk he's walking
1:39:23
around this, it's kind of sad.
The NHS didn't, it was not a
1:39:28
good ending. But it just shows
that, you know, everything was
1:39:32
great. And then he got co opted
and then just went down the
1:39:36
tubes. And I can see you know, I
can see his thinking. We got
1:39:39
soon in California, we should
turn that into energy. Didn't
1:39:43
work out that way. I'm going to
replay one of the two clips we
1:39:48
had from Richard Haass with
Morning Joe, which we played a
1:39:52
week and a half ago because
there is news on the Ukraine
1:39:55
Russia front that is important
to discuss and there's no clips,
1:39:58
so I'm going to replay This how
1:40:00
Unknown: long to our allies in
Europe who've all done? I think,
1:40:04
together, NATO has done an
extraordinary job. How much
1:40:07
longer? Do we continue pushing?
I think, what what many people
1:40:16
in Pentagon would think see
unrealistic goal of Ukraine
1:40:20
driving every last Russian out
of out of their country? It's
1:40:25
exactly the right. Question,
Joe. And what concerns me is
1:40:29
when people get this solution
and increasingly come to the way
1:40:32
you were, you and I are, that as
desirable as it is, it's simply
1:40:36
not feasible. They're going to
increasingly say, and we're
1:40:38
hearing it in the house, we're
hearing in parts of Europe, why
1:40:41
should we keep doing this, we're
already stretched, we're trying
1:40:43
to support Israel, we're worried
about Taiwan. And even if we
1:40:48
give everything we need to give
or want to give to Ukraine, it
1:40:51
still won't lead to success.
What I argued, therefore, is the
1:40:55
United States needs to have some
very direct conversations with
1:40:58
Ukraine with President Solinsky.
Talking about reducing their
1:41:02
emphasis on liberating land
increasingly put all their
1:41:05
emphasis on holding on to what
they've got, in the long run
1:41:09
diplomatically through
sanctions, yes, we can try to
1:41:11
see the rest of their territory
return. But for right now, let's
1:41:14
have 80% of this country save
80% of this country, rebuilt, I
1:41:19
would actually propose the
ceasefire as an interim
1:41:22
arrangement to expose the
Russians for what they are, so
1:41:25
we can rebuild support for
Ukraine and in this country. But
1:41:30
we've had two fighting seasons,
the idea that one or two or
1:41:33
three more years of this is
going to result in success. I
1:41:36
simply don't see it, Russia is
on a war footing. They have
1:41:39
access all sorts of arms from
North Korea and Iran. So I just
1:41:42
think, anytime in foreign policy
anytime in life, there's a big
1:41:46
gap between what you're trying
to do and your ability to do it.
1:41:49
You've either got to increase
your means or lower your goals.
1:41:53
And I think here the only
realistic option as a tactical
1:41:56
measure is to lower our goals.
So
1:41:58
Adam Curry: we took that as an
obvious signal to morning, Joe.
1:42:02
Well,
1:42:02
John C Dvorak: let's make sure
that we mentioned the fact that
1:42:05
this guy he was talking to
Morning Joe is the head of the
1:42:07
Council on Foreign Relations.
1:42:09
Adam Curry: Big Big Cheese and
he goes on Morning, Joe really?
1:42:12
So yeah, he makes no sense. He
may even be just be friends.
1:42:16
With Scarborough say Hey, bro,
like. So now we know that there
1:42:21
was an article in The Economist
which we missed. And for it to
1:42:26
be any economist at all, which
is very left leaning with the
1:42:29
new editor who has been there a
couple of years that both the
1:42:34
nanny most both the military
generals are the leaders of the
1:42:38
Russian military and the
Ukrainian military, both named
1:42:41
Valerie interesting Valera
Bhaduri. Have been talking and
1:42:46
they have decided they're going
to end this thing. Seymour Hersh
1:42:51
wrote about it and pretty good
substack everyone in Europe is
1:42:54
talking about this the peace
talks. An American businessman
1:42:57
who spent years dealing with
high level Ukrainian diplomatic
1:43:00
and military issues and
government told me earlier this
1:43:02
week, but there are lots of
questions between the ceasefire
1:43:04
and the settlement, the veteran
journalist on an Anatol Lieven
1:43:09
wrote this week that the
battlefield situation Ukraine,
1:43:12
and the ceasefire negotiations
for peace settlement are
1:43:15
becoming more and more necessary
for Ukraine. He said that it was
1:43:18
exceptionally difficult for the
Ukrainian government headed by
1:43:21
Volodymyr Zelensky. To agree to
talks given his repeated refusal
1:43:24
to negotiate with Russian
President Vladimir Putin. The
1:43:27
driving force behind of those
talks has not been Washington or
1:43:31
Moscow, or Biden or Putin. But
instead the two high ranking
1:43:34
generals who run the war.
Valerie garish come off of
1:43:37
Russia and Valerie Zelazny of
Ukraine. And on the table is
1:43:43
everything that we heard here
from Haas 80%, they'll keep
1:43:46
their 80% of the 20% that they
have recaptured, which was what
1:43:50
it was about in the first place.
Interestingly, on the table
1:43:54
appears to be the allowance for
Ukraine to become a NATO
1:43:58
country, as long as they do not
have any weaponry on the new
1:44:04
border, as it is now. And it can
be defensive only and that would
1:44:09
be the concession that Putin
makes they keep Crimea, they
1:44:13
keep the Donbass region and a
NATO can then or Ukraine can
1:44:18
then become a NATO country,
which is like wow, has has Putin
1:44:22
learned nothing, but okay. But
it seems like this is is is
1:44:27
happening and even in The
Economist, First Lady, Alina
1:44:32
Zelenka told the economists she
does not want President
1:44:35
Volodymyr Zelensky to lead and
to lead another term and he
1:44:38
needs to find something new in
life. She doesn't want him to be
1:44:43
president anymore. So I think
this is feels like this is
1:44:48
John C Dvorak: a handful at
home. She looks like it
1:44:53
Adam Curry: a handful at home.
So it looks like this is really
1:44:57
happening. It's coming to an
end. Now of course they have to
1:45:00
Hit I loved the end of Hersha
substack. The two generals may
1:45:06
continue to talk and Putin may
indeed be interested in a
1:45:09
settlement that gives him
permanent control of Crimea and
1:45:12
the four provinces he has
claimed. But the Lenski remains
1:45:15
the wildcard, the American
official said that Zelinsky has
1:45:18
been told that this is a
military to military problem to
1:45:21
solve and the talks will go on
with or without you, if
1:45:24
necessary. The American official
told me we can finance his
1:45:28
voyage to the Caribbean, which
kind of goes in line with those
1:45:31
two yachts he supposedly just
bought it.
1:45:34
John C Dvorak: He's got Yes,
he's also got houses all over
1:45:36
the world. That was a
documentary on YouTube done by
1:45:39
Scott Ritter Ritter. That was
very detailed, and all the
1:45:43
houses that Zelinsky has managed
to accumulate all over the
1:45:46
world. So yeah, he can they can
get them out of there if they
1:45:49
want to. There's I got a weird
Ukraine clip that I wanted to
1:45:53
play, which is this just off the
wall. I was collecting good news
1:45:58
clips. And this is from the
Shreveport Louisiana local
1:46:03
station. And I guess there's a
bunch of and I think, I don't
1:46:08
know how this isn't a violation
of the Logan Act. I play this
1:46:11
clip,
1:46:12
Unknown: the war in Ukraine
rages on and today a delegation
1:46:15
from the Ukrainian parliament
met in downtown Shreveport to
1:46:19
inform the public about the
state of the war, and how
1:46:21
crucial economic investments
from American businesses are
1:46:25
needed to help rebuild that
country are Madison Edwards
1:46:28
spoke with members of the
Ukrainian parliament, and he has
1:46:31
more on what they discuss. So
what was it Madison?
1:46:34
Well, Jeff Louisiana in the
Ukraine share similar port
1:46:37
exports. That's why the members
of the parliament are asking the
1:46:40
local tree port citizen to help
their cause and for business
1:46:43
leaders in the area to invest in
the rebuilding of the nation.
1:46:47
Louisiana is a major trading
partner of Ukraine, and the
1:46:50
Ukrainian delegation met in
downtown Shreveport to discuss
1:46:54
strengthening ties between the
state and Ukraine through
1:46:57
business, Energy, Agriculture
and humanitarian efforts amid
1:47:01
the ongoing conflict, Member of
Parliament, David, Eric AMITA
1:47:05
says tree port and Ukraine share
similar business exploits.
1:47:09
Adam Curry: So the thinking here
is that this is Mike Johnson,
1:47:12
Speaker of the House is home
state. He's their congressman.
1:47:15
Mike, definitely aware of
getting to him influence
1:47:18
operation. I mean, they so what
it sounds like is, well, of
1:47:23
course the Biden administration
wants no end. Because let's
1:47:28
because then the focus will come
back to him and Hunter, which,
1:47:31
of course, is what we're going
to be wasting our time with for
1:47:33
the next year. Thanks,
Republicans in Congress. That,
1:47:42
so neither the Biden
administration or the Lensky
1:47:45
wants to give this up. Give me
credit, man. So we need a
1:47:50
solution. So everybody can bow
out. And I mean, maybe this is
1:47:54
something for the curry Devorah
Consulting Group, we need a
1:47:57
solution to everybody can save
face.
1:48:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of
space saving needed here. This
1:48:04
report went on for a long time.
I didn't clip the whole thing it
1:48:06
was I saw it, I saw the whole
thing. Well, the one point that
1:48:10
they kind of made in there as
these guys is group of
1:48:13
Parliamentarians from, or
parliament members from Ukraine
1:48:18
are gonna hit like 10 states
along the
1:48:22
Adam Curry: well. That's part of
the this is part of the
1:48:23
rebuilding. This is the
rebuilding part.
1:48:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
trying to set set the stage but
1:48:29
Well, I think that when it seems
pretty screwy, if he asked me
1:48:32
the when would be
1:48:35
Adam Curry: Ukraine becoming a
NATO country? That would be that
1:48:39
that's an obvious win for for
the US. White House. All right.
1:48:46
We got them, but they're nowhere
near being prepared for that.
1:48:52
Right? Yes. Has Sweden even been
approved yet?
1:48:55
John C Dvorak: Sweden still, I
think still in in limbo, Finn,
1:49:00
Finland
1:49:00
Adam Curry: has near Finland got
their approval. So I mean, they
1:49:07
need something now.
1:49:10
John C Dvorak: What's possible
also the following. Let's say
1:49:13
that deal is done where? Yeah,
you can join NATO. But then but
1:49:17
joining NATO, NATO does have to
have a majority or not a
1:49:22
majority but a unanimous consent
but all the NATO members,
1:49:26
including Russia,
1:49:28
Adam Curry: no, I'm just
kidding.
1:49:30
John C Dvorak: People actually
would would believe this. You
1:49:33
know, I know. We've seen clips
or oh, I don't know why. We've
1:49:37
seen clips. But so you do a
behind the scenes deal with
1:49:41
Turkey, Turkey a turkey a and
tell them hey, Nix this, okay.
1:49:49
And then you Nix it or even even
Putin could do that deal. I
1:49:54
mean, somebody could do it
because Turkey doesn't care at
1:49:56
this point, don't they? They're
the ones screwing up though.
1:49:58
Sweden. Yeah, yes, yeah. Yeah.
So it's possible that they won't
1:50:05
I mean, they Yeah, okay. We let
him in but we won't let him in.
1:50:07
Adam Curry: Well, no, we'll let
him in. We're all for good to go
1:50:10
US Europe. They all say okay,
it's gonna be great. They're
1:50:14
going to be NATO that is the
stepping stone towards full
1:50:18
European membership, which they
also won't get.
1:50:22
John C Dvorak: That would be the
worst thing that Europe, Europe.
1:50:25
They don't
1:50:25
Adam Curry: want another grease
on their hands. So and then
1:50:28
you're right, then then we were
then we have turkey aid just be
1:50:31
the the foil the foil continuous
foil, like nope, nope, nope,
1:50:37
nope. But But I mean, it's, it's
a beautiful, it's a beautiful
1:50:42
thing that is coming to an end.
I'm so happy. We need less war.
1:50:47
In our lives,
1:50:48
John C Dvorak: we can deal with
less mess that is just a
1:50:50
regularization of parts of the
country. Well, they have
1:50:53
Adam Curry: the rebuilding
projects all good to go. I mean,
1:50:55
that everybody's ready. And I'm
sure there's money to be made.
1:50:58
There's tons. Well, there's
money in the in the How about
1:51:02
that? How about we we give you
rush as money with 300 billion
1:51:09
that's been on the table for a
long time. I'm sure the Rush has
1:51:12
written it off. You know,
they're trying to screw Russia
1:51:15
with the methane bullcrap. So
they could still kind of kind of
1:51:20
have their anti Russian stance.
I mean, there is something new.
1:51:24
And this was so funny. We've
been through this so many times
1:51:28
with Russia, but Okay, here it
is one more time
1:51:31
Unknown: gay clubs across Russia
have been raided just days after
1:51:34
the country ruled the LGBT plus
community was extremist. The
1:51:38
reports from Moscow followed the
highest court in Russia banning
1:51:41
what it called the Global LGBTQ
movement. Human rights groups
1:51:45
have slammed the actions. So
this
1:51:46
Adam Curry: hasn't quite hit in
the US yet. I'm expecting it
1:51:49
because what happened is 48
hours after the Russian
1:51:54
government, and really what
they're after is one LGBTQ
1:51:58
organization, which is a
nonprofit, an NGO, who of
1:52:04
course, are weaponizing LGBTQ,
just as it's done here in the
1:52:08
US, they say, Hey, you guys are
an extremist organization.
1:52:13
You're not allowed anymore. If
this is not new, Russia has
1:52:16
gotten written rid of all kinds
of NGOs, because they usually
1:52:20
are, you know, agencies,
particularly for the United
1:52:24
States M CIA mi five, mi six, mi
five, mi six. So but this is
1:52:30
being twisted to say 48 hours
after the after they outlawed
1:52:34
LGBTQ they they invaded all the
bars, they raided the bars,
1:52:40
which which was for I guess they
were looking for some they would
1:52:43
try and do some big drug bust.
So that might catch a storm,
1:52:46
they might use that. I mean,
that could be a way to refocus
1:52:51
the Palestine energy. Now,
because something has to happen
1:52:56
with that the Palestine energy
is a problem as a real problem,
1:53:04
because they're just losing
losing grip over that. So you
1:53:09
know, we need to remind
everybody that Trump is a
1:53:12
dictator, and the worst scenario
imaginable in your life is if
1:53:17
Trump is reelected president,
again, you say Donald Trump, if
1:53:21
he is, I'm sorry, this is Liz
Cheney on CBS.
1:53:24
John C Dvorak: You don't waste
anyone even give her a mic.
1:53:27
Adam Curry: For this reason. And
this reason only, you say Donald
1:53:30
Unknown: Trump, if he is
reelected, it will be the end of
1:53:33
the Republic.
1:53:33
What do you mean, he's done all
this what he will do? It's very
1:53:37
easy to see the steps that he
will take people who say, Well,
1:53:42
if he's elected, it's not that
dangerous, because we have all
1:53:45
of these checks and balances,
don't fully understand the
1:53:50
extent to which the Republicans
in Congress today have been co
1:53:54
opted. One of the things that we
see happening today is a sort of
1:53:59
a sleepwalking into dictatorship
in the United States
1:54:05
dictatorship.
1:54:06
Adam Curry: It's a replay. It's
whenever you play Rocket
1:54:09
John C Dvorak: crap, when
everyone was lapping it up like
1:54:11
there's no tomorrow
1:54:14
Adam Curry: is Liz Cheney. Liz
Cheney
1:54:16
John C Dvorak: has got to be the
lowest form of human. Well,
1:54:21
there was a Gavin Newsom is
DeSantis the bay which was a
1:54:26
complete waste of an hour and a
half 5
1:54:28
Adam Curry: million viewers,
apparently. Yeah, well, that's
1:54:33
more than I expected.
1:54:34
John C Dvorak: And it is not a
slouch. Drew, so I didn't clip
1:54:39
any of it and I wasn't about
you. And it was a lot of talking
1:54:43
over each other. But I did get a
15 second clip of Capehart who
1:54:51
saw the clip who saw the whole
thing and he had all these
1:54:54
things to say about it and, and
he did this little ditty
1:54:59
Unknown: he Think that Governor
Newsom appearance though, helps
1:55:03
the campaign of President Biden
in any way?
1:55:05
I do, because when you and I
watched the debate, every almost
1:55:09
every, in every sentence, it was
Biden, Harris Biden, Harris
1:55:13
Biden, Harris, President Harris.
1:55:16
Adam Curry: It was promotion was
a promotion. That was great.
1:55:24
Well, here's the here's boots on
the ground. What's happening?
1:55:28
Chicago, which now is finally
building migrant camps in the
1:55:33
city, with the huge tents, which
should have been up a long time
1:55:38
ago, because it's 16 degrees in
Chicago, and all the migrants
1:55:43
who have been partially bussed
in from Texas, but others have
1:55:46
been flown in. And others choose
willingly to go
1:55:49
John C Dvorak: to Chicago. Yes.
1:55:53
Adam Curry: But these tents,
which will house I think, a
1:55:57
couple of 1000 migrants are in
black neighborhoods. We've been
1:56:04
following this for a while.
Yeah. And and this is not very,
1:56:08
this has now come to a head
where the black Chicagoans are
1:56:11
saying we're voting Republican,
1:56:14
Unknown: and any Republican
candidate, inner city of
1:56:16
Chicago, now is your time,
because we are done with the
1:56:21
democratic.
1:56:29
Black community. So we're here
today to say, Okay, if that's
1:56:35
what we were, we don't have to
support the Democratic Party.
1:56:39
Right, right. We don't have to
continue to support people who
1:56:43
are not going to support us. And
the Democratic Party, here in
1:56:47
this city, in this state, and in
this country is not supported.
1:56:52
You got Republicans and
Democrats on the other side,
1:56:56
guess what, they are part of the
same birthright. It doesn't
1:57:02
matter anymore which party we go
with. But I tell you this, I
1:57:07
read the deal with the snake
that outfit himself of the
1:57:10
Republican Party, then the snake
that's coming up in the
1:57:13
Democrat. We continue to stay up
with this. We're gonna continue
1:57:18
to allow our state
representatives, our congressmen
1:57:23
and our mayor you got to show us
the way that we got to show you
1:57:32
a great day in the city of
Chicago when a Democratic
1:57:36
Convention comes here that a lot
of black voters took Republicans
1:57:42
deal with that. We deal
1:57:44
Adam Curry: with that. Yeah,
that's right. The convention
1:57:48
coming in March in Chicago.
Every
1:57:51
John C Dvorak: time you went to
Chicago, it becomes a riot. Riot
1:57:53
is situation. Marketing back to
the 68 convention.
1:57:57
Adam Curry: It's a cycle. It
must be how many years is
1:58:02
John C Dvorak: 60 years it'd be
40 years, 60 years? 60 years
1:58:07
cycle? Just like the certain
stock market moves? Yeah. So you
1:58:12
have 60 years later, you get a
you know about 60
1:58:16
Adam Curry: It'll be ready to be
a real bad look. If the cops are
1:58:18
beaten blackheads. I'll tell you
that. Well, they will. They'll
1:58:20
be beaten up. Yeah, but it'd be
a bad look.
1:58:23
John C Dvorak: That was a bad
look. When they're beaten the
1:58:24
students and six good Democrats,
hey,
1:58:27
Adam Curry: we need to bring
that back. Beat students. We
1:58:31
need to bring that back that
crazy. This beat the beat them
1:58:35
students meet them students. One
of our producers, was intrigued
1:58:40
by our discussion of potential
vice presidential picks
1:58:44
John C Dvorak: for President
Trump. We have a we have pics
1:58:47
coming in. Well, we have.
1:58:49
Adam Curry: He has the odds. He
has the oddsmakers from the
1:58:51
sports bet in Australia, which I
thought was interesting, but
1:58:55
this is interesting. Okay. So I
guess the lowest number is the
1:58:59
most likely right. So it's one
in six. That's that that is more
1:59:03
likely than one in 40. Correct?
Yeah. Okay. All right. So in
1:59:09
order of appearance, one in six,
Kristi, noem from she's South
1:59:14
Dakota. Yep.
1:59:15
John C Dvorak: South Dakota
governor. One
1:59:18
Adam Curry: in 6.5. Elise
Stefanik, which was unknown to
1:59:24
me. But
1:59:27
John C Dvorak: I've heard her
name but I can't think of what
1:59:28
she is. She didn't know where
the Aussies came up with this.
1:59:31
Well, they'll
1:59:32
Adam Curry: better look.
1:59:33
John C Dvorak: I know
1:59:34
Adam Curry: they'll bet on
anything because they got
1:59:35
nothing better to do in
Australia than bet on gun
1:59:38
countries dead countries. Sorry
Aussies, but you got screwed.
1:59:42
She is a Republican
congresswoman from New York.
1:59:48
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I know
who she is. She's the she hasn't
1:59:51
got a prayer. Okay.
1:59:54
Adam Curry: 1721 Vivec Ramaswamy
then it goes to 10 In 110, Nikki
2:00:01
Haley, then we go one and 12 Tim
Scott tied with Tucker Carlson.
2:00:08
John C Dvorak: No brother.
2:00:10
Adam Curry: I know this is why
Australia goes off the rails.
2:00:12
Then it one in 14 Kerry Lake.
Sarah her
2:00:16
John C Dvorak: legacy has been a
lot of people are pushing Carrie
2:00:19
lake.
2:00:21
Adam Curry: I don't think
President Trump wants her to
2:00:25
possibly upstage him and certain
guests
2:00:27
John C Dvorak: she's enough
stager. No doubt about that
2:00:30
she's
2:00:30
Adam Curry: upstage or yeah,
that that could be a problem.
2:00:33
Then my my potential pick one
and 21 so those odds are not
2:00:38
good Sarah Huckabee Sanders. And
then we get into just you know,
2:00:41
like Marsha Blackburn, Marjorie
Taylor Greene, Ben Carson.
2:00:45
Gregory Abbott know that Marco
Rubio I mean, it just I mean it
2:00:50
let's see odds it. One in 41 is
Tulsi Gabbard. Bobby, the
2:00:57
opposite 41 JD Vance at 41. So
the odds have it a Kristi, Noem,
2:01:04
at least a phonic that says she
couldn't be. She's definitely
2:01:08
had made the writing Kristi,
noem being a good candidate.
2:01:12
Man. The South Dakotans are not
happy with her. They're loud.
2:01:16
What? No, they just haven't been
a. Craig who's one of our
2:01:20
producers. She braised
2:01:21
John C Dvorak: a lot about being
the greatest governor in South
2:01:23
Dakota in the history of the
state.
2:01:25
Adam Curry: Now they have all
kinds of issues where there's
2:01:26
lots of stuff she's done that
the South Dakotans don't like
2:01:30
particularly the conservatives
that I'll have Craig Wright
2:01:34
credited Weinberg to have him
write write it up the write it
2:01:36
up for me the he'll tell me
succinctly what it is but I know
2:01:39
because that's when Megan Kelly
last last time I was on emphasis
2:01:44
on last time I was on
2:01:47
John C Dvorak: the last time
you're on yeah she's like
2:01:49
Adam Curry: Christie Christie no
my sadness out the colons don't
2:01:52
like it that's not true. Okay
Megan
2:01:56
John C Dvorak: your your
invitation of Kelly is almost
2:02:00
spot on. I mean, I can't tell if
you're if if she's actually in
2:02:04
the studio with you I know
2:02:05
Adam Curry: it's like we
switched over to New York. She's
2:02:09
now going into acting to make it
no no Megan Kelly Yeah,
2:02:16
everyone's okay so daily wire up
doing movie projects now that's
2:02:21
what that CEO guy is roaring
always want to do. So I guess
2:02:25
they're doing a district
2:02:26
John C Dvorak: who I'm reminded
of, of remembering Yahoo was run
2:02:30
by that guy from Hollywood. What
was his name? Start with a bee I
2:02:35
think I can't remember somebody
that did a troll room might
2:02:38
remember it was but he was such
a Hollywood he was going to turn
2:02:41
everything into like he was
gonna start using Yahoo money to
2:02:44
produce movies.
2:02:46
Adam Curry: Yeah, and then and
then they finally spent all this
2:02:48
time in LA and never was up
here. Yeah, and then they threw
2:02:51
the whole thing to Marissa Meyer
and just let it go to crap.
2:02:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:02:56
Adam Curry: what was the name of
what was that guy and he was a
2:02:58
real Hollywood guy. troll him
doesn't know anyway, so daily
2:03:02
wire doesn't know that stuns me
of trolls not paying attention
2:03:07
the trolling that's what they
do. They're too young they're
2:03:11
too young to know this stuff. I
mean, we could look it up I
2:03:15
mean, let's see your hair. Yeah,
now I gotta know Yahoo. Let's
2:03:19
do. Terry, wasn't it Terry
something Terry
2:03:26
John C Dvorak: son Terry. Terry.
2:03:29
Adam Curry: Terry. Terry Semel,
Terry Semel. I did that from
2:03:32
memory. Well, good for you very
much. Anyway, so the boring
2:03:38
company a boring if the boring
company boring the CEO of daily
2:03:42
wire. So he's all on the movie
tip. And so they're doing an
2:03:47
animated short or as series
which I think that's what Megan
2:03:51
is going to be acting in. And of
course, what everyone's talking
2:03:54
about is Lady ballers. The
movie. You heard about Lady
2:03:58
ballers have me? Yeah, yeah. And
I and I think this is a mistake
2:04:03
to be honest about I think it's
counterproductive. Now I like
2:04:09
humor. What
2:04:10
John C Dvorak: What's What's the
mistake?
2:04:14
Adam Curry: If they're what is
their mission? Is that missing?
2:04:17
Just have
2:04:17
John C Dvorak: no I met you what
you're saying you're like the
2:04:19
guy who owns a little store in
the corner and the guy across
2:04:22
the street selling junk jewelry.
So you sell junk junk jewelry,
2:04:26
and then another guy down the
street does knife sharpening. So
2:04:29
you do knife sharpening and
pretty soon, the store that you
2:04:33
started to sell something or
other is now just a store full
2:04:37
of different junk processes.
2:04:40
Adam Curry: Wow, I hadn't
thought of explaining it that
2:04:42
way. Well, that's what
2:04:44
John C Dvorak: it is. Know what
your do and do it. Well. So this
2:04:49
is all of a sudden, well, you
know, while we're at it, why
2:04:51
don't we do this in that now?
2:04:53
Adam Curry: Well, so they have
some big names that they have in
2:04:57
this in this movie. Then it's an
anti woke move. v. And, you
2:05:01
know, it's like it just seems
like why do you you're doing
2:05:08
John C Dvorak: an anti woke
movies as bad as doing a woke
2:05:11
movie?
2:05:13
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
That's it was just as bad as
2:05:16
doing getting
2:05:16
John C Dvorak: politics out of
it. I mean, that's what you're
2:05:19
talking about. Yeah,
2:05:20
Adam Curry: I think you're I
think that's that's what I'm
2:05:22
saying. Yeah. Is that Yeah,
let's do a good movie. There he
2:05:26
goes,
2:05:26
John C Dvorak: right making
good, good, entertaining.
2:05:30
Adam Curry: Joy. That's the
movie. We'll all enjoy watching
2:05:32
that everybody can go and watch.
But I guess that's what Barbie
2:05:37
was.
2:05:39
John C Dvorak: Maybe a lot of
everybody went and watched it.
2:05:41
Yeah, it was.
2:05:42
Adam Curry: I still have. I
still haven't seen it. I can't
2:05:45
bring myself to watch. You
2:05:46
John C Dvorak: won't get past
that. You will not get it over
2:05:48
1020 minutes into his No way.
No, I'm because it's silly. It's
2:05:52
a silly promotional film. Yes.
Yes. It's very pink though. And
2:05:58
I will say this when the Oscars
come out if they don't give set
2:06:02
decoration or art director to
the person who did that movie
2:06:08
screwing up because it is
Stunning. Stunning.
2:06:13
Adam Curry: So before we take a
break, I think we should
2:06:16
probably discuss Israel and
Hamas lips. Yeah, let me let me
2:06:23
kick this off with the Morning
Joe clip just to get us into the
2:06:26
mood a little
2:06:27
Unknown: deeper into the New
York Times report that Israel
2:06:29
new Hamas was planning a wide
scale assault a year before the
2:06:35
October 7 terrorist attack one
year, according to the Israeli
2:06:40
officials obtained an
approximately 40 page document,
2:06:45
which they codenamed as Ed said
Jericho wall. It outlined point
2:06:50
by point exactly the kind of
devastating invasion that led to
2:06:55
the deaths of about 1200 people
probably many more. The Times
2:07:00
writes Israeli military and
intelligence officials dismissed
2:07:04
the plan as aspirational,
considering it too difficult for
2:07:08
Hamas to carry out. Well.
2:07:11
The problem with that is and
we're going to talk to Jackie
2:07:14
about this very soon water
behind this right. The problem
2:07:17
with that is that Israel needs
us funding. We need to know what
2:07:24
were are we funding Benjamin
Netanyahu? are we funding his
2:07:29
designs to stay in power? are we
funding an operation where we
2:07:34
have to look and guess Okay,
well, is this for the in the
2:07:37
best interest of Israeli people?
Or is it this in the best
2:07:41
interest of a Prime Minister who
deliberately focused on the West
2:07:45
Bank deliberately turned a blind
eye to this plan for a year, a
2:07:53
year where it's specifically
laid out? So I'm not so sure
2:07:58
that Congress and the President
want to approve even more money
2:08:03
for Israel? Until we know that
there's actually somebody
2:08:07
wanting Israel there it is that
even the Israeli support the
2:08:11
Israelis don't trust Benjamin
Netanyahu.
2:08:14
Adam Curry: I think this is the
way they want to manage this
2:08:17
crisis. Because you can't gene
change us You can't hate the
2:08:23
Jews but everybody can hate Bibi
that's an easy one being even
2:08:28
our own lives like screw Bibi
Netanyahu he's no good and now
2:08:33
it's like all we don't want to
be funding him. Yes, regime
2:08:35
change, which would make the
woke Israeli population very
2:08:40
happy.
2:08:45
John C Dvorak: This Yeah, this
is interesting, because we
2:08:48
already had Richard Haass, no,
this is a we know there's a
2:08:51
conduit between the Council on
Foreign Relations and this
2:08:55
stupid show. So this is just
this is the talking points from
2:09:01
the CFR Yep. We have to assume
that I think so. The talking
2:09:05
points are the souls of the CFR
wants to get rid of maybe for
2:09:09
whatever reason and this bull
crap with this report like oh,
2:09:13
and he kept ignoring it day
after day as like as though they
2:09:15
were shoving in his face every
single day and his knack get
2:09:18
that out of there. He looked at
it like a million other reports
2:09:21
you get when you're in a job
like that, and they come pass
2:09:24
your desk and Oh, that's
interesting. Oh, that's
2:09:26
interesting isn't different one
every day and they're all doing
2:09:28
different things. You choose one
or the other. And your guys are
2:09:31
supposed to tell you what's
important and what's not. And if
2:09:34
the head of the chief of
intelligence tells you this is
2:09:37
going to happen, you take it
seriously, but it's just some
2:09:39
random thing to go through. i
This is bullcrap. I
2:09:42
Adam Curry: think they can make
him the new Putin. He's he has
2:09:48
the face for it. Let's be
honest.
2:09:51
John C Dvorak: By the way, he's
looking like he's getting
2:09:54
getting time as you were
2:09:56
Adam Curry: getting tired.
You're tired. Like I didn't talk
2:09:58
like this.
2:10:00
John C Dvorak: So they're gonna
oust him in some way shape or
2:10:02
form and but
2:10:03
Adam Curry: also focus the
energy not on Israel but on Bibi
2:10:08
Netanyahu that is that's a way
out of this they need a way out
2:10:14
they be
2:10:16
John C Dvorak: phony baloney
report is a ruse is a great idea
2:10:20
yes
2:10:20
Adam Curry: that's there you go
that's our CIA sometimes the
2:10:24
whole report
2:10:24
John C Dvorak: could be both for
all we know could be bogus
2:10:27
everything he said we don't know
any of it to be true that he
2:10:30
kept ignoring the report lab lab
law we don't know that one thing
2:10:34
he says Scarborough borough said
we don't know that one. Any one
2:10:39
item is actually true.
2:10:41
Adam Curry: Oh, it's
unnecessary. We know that Russia
2:10:44
Russia Russia very perfect phone
call very fine people come on we
2:10:48
don't need that. It
2:10:50
Unknown: just repeats very fine
for my favorite
2:10:53
Adam Curry: that's repeated over
Dave Rubin tried to correct that
2:10:56
on he was on with Bill a Bill
Maher where
2:10:59
John C Dvorak: there's always
somebody trying to correct it to
2:11:01
no avail. Yeah, and he was on
with
2:11:05
Adam Curry: what's the old the
old coot the USMC, hoodie pink
2:11:09
hoodie wearing guy used to be
married to Mary matalin. Guy
2:11:15
Yeah, the bald guy. The old
Cucamonga ball old
2:11:17
John C Dvorak: fart. Yeah.
2:11:18
Adam Curry: Yeah. And he was
like, very fine people. And Dave
2:11:21
Rubin is like, well, you know,
he's and just everyone laughed
2:11:24
over him. Dave Rubin could not
could not could not get the
2:11:27
correction in. No, we're not
going to happen. James Carville.
2:11:30
Thank you.
2:11:31
John C Dvorak: Carville. Yeah
Harville Yeah, yeah, no,
2:11:35
Adam Curry: no no you can't even
under I couldn't clip it because
2:11:37
you can't understand you say
pretty much like that. Yeah, you
2:11:42
can't understand them anymore.
Can't Alright, so what clip Do
2:11:46
you have what clips do you have
about this? Well, I
2:11:48
John C Dvorak: got the update
the as of yesterday, update on
2:11:51
the on the whole thing. Of
course it's from PBS and so it
2:11:54
will have a certain anti Jew a
Jew hate slant, but it's okay.
2:12:01
This is the guys update. elitist
voices of America. This is NPR
2:12:09
where PBS
2:12:10
Unknown: tonight hopes for
another pause in the fighting in
2:12:13
Gaza anytime soon have dimmed
considerably. Israeli Prime
2:12:17
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
ordered his negotiators home
2:12:20
from Qatar, saying the talks
there had hit a dead end since
2:12:24
fighting resumed at least 200
Palestinians have been killed
2:12:27
bringing the death toll since
October 7. That's more than
2:12:30
15,200 Those numbers from the
Hamas run Gaza health ministry.
2:12:35
Meanwhile, the focus of Israel's
renewed aerial bombardment of
2:12:38
Gaza has shifted from the North.
Yeah, in the snap pops,
2:12:45
Adam Curry: we gotta remind
everybody NAT pops that's what
2:12:48
you do as a video editor. Good
work, Israel's
2:12:50
Unknown: renewed aerial
bombardment of Gaza has shifted
2:12:53
from the north. In the southern
Gaza City of Khan Yunis, the
2:13:00
streets are engulfed in smoke.
The Israeli military has dropped
2:13:04
leaflets urging residents of the
city and the surrounding area to
2:13:07
evacuate further south but
beleaguered Gaza and say there
2:13:11
is nowhere to go. They seek
refuge wherever they can find it
2:13:17
like this makeshift camp outside
all Nasr hospital, settled them
2:13:21
in nearly flat
2:13:22
the North before coming here. We
went to various places. There's
2:13:25
no safe place in Gaza.
2:13:28
Our houses are gone. Our
property is gone. Our money is
2:13:33
gone. Some died some handicapped
in the hospital. What is left to
2:13:38
cry for? And then they tell us
we will get aid. Where is it? As
2:13:43
the wounded fill Oh, Nasr
hospital today that aid 50
2:13:46
trucks will according to the
Palestine Red Crescent Society
2:13:50
enter through the Rafah crossing
along the Egyptian border. The
2:13:53
first relief since the ceasefire
ended Friday. Yesterday, Israel
2:13:57
had blocked me from getting into
Gaza.
2:14:00
Adam Curry: It's interesting
that Sir Brian of London is in
2:14:04
Israel. He's been giving me his
boots on the ground. Yes. On
2:14:09
Friday, he sends me a text
message. He says well ceasefires
2:14:13
over rockets are incoming. But I
didn't hear anybody report on
2:14:16
that.
2:14:18
John C Dvorak: I heard one
report of rockets. But they
2:14:21
cease before the season was
over. Before it was over. They
2:14:24
started launching rockets. Yeah,
Israel. Yeah. Now the thing
2:14:28
about these reports and all of
them have the same thing. It's
2:14:30
the it's the Palestinian health
authorities that has the the
2:14:36
head counter the dead. What is
that all about? But they're the
2:14:41
Adam Curry: they're the
authority. The
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: Health Authority,
they're not the death authority.
2:14:45
They're not the government.
Well, the health they find it
2:14:48
peculiar that this one done
agency or who knows who they
2:14:52
are. This is got the death
counts, but they got probably
2:14:55
Adam Curry: some guy in an
apartment in London,
2:14:58
John C Dvorak: you know, to say
Same thing, like the Syrian
2:15:02
Adam Curry: guy, forget who that
was. Right? That was a girl. No,
2:15:05
no, no, it's the Syrian guy who
was the authority. And he was in
2:15:08
London and he's, he's making
2:15:11
John C Dvorak: it up as he goes
along. So okay, that's good.
2:15:13
Part two of
2:15:14
Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu said the
2:15:16
fighting would not stop until
Israel meets its objectives. No,
2:15:20
she's blaming him.
2:15:21
We will continue the war until
we achieve all its goals, and
2:15:25
it's impossible to achieve those
goals without the ground
2:15:28
operation. The ground operation
was necessary to bring the
2:15:32
results until now, and it is
necessary to bring the results
2:15:35
moving
2:15:35
forward.
2:15:36
with hopes of a renewed
ceasefire dissipating. Vice
2:15:39
President Kamala Harris spoke
with reporters in Dubai group
2:15:42
laying out the Biden
administration's vision for
2:15:45
peace.
2:15:46
five principles guide our
approach for post conflict,
2:15:49
God's Gaza. No forcible
displacement, no reoccupation no
2:15:56
siege or blockade, no reduction
in territory, and no use of Gaza
2:16:03
as a platform for terrorism. We
want to see a unified Gaza and
2:16:08
West Bank under the Palestinian
Authority, and Palestinian
2:16:13
voices and aspirations must be
at the center of this work.
2:16:18
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow, waffling
much Wofully.
2:16:22
John C Dvorak: She has
absolutely no emotion
2:16:25
whatsoever. When she discusses
anything she just reads like a
2:16:29
Adam Curry: robot. Yeah, sounds
like it sounds about right.
2:16:32
She's an idiot. Unlike unlike
the emotion and the sportscaster
2:16:37
ish vibe of this CNN report,
2:16:39
Unknown: both Israel and Hamas
had indicated they were ready to
2:16:41
restart fighting if the
negotiations fell apart and if
2:16:44
the truce expired, and that's
exactly what happened right
2:16:46
around seven o'clock this
morning. We have seen the
2:16:48
skyline of Gaza. We have heard
the strikes the IDF is carrying
2:16:52
out in Gaza. So this war is very
much back on as both Hamas had
2:16:57
promised Israel carrying out
strikes and southern Gaza
2:17:01
according to authorities there
that is where they said they
2:17:03
would focus the second phase of
their operation. Meanwhile,
2:17:07
Israel has dropped leaflets in
parts of southern Gaza.
2:17:10
Interestingly, those leaflets
have a QR code that brings you
2:17:13
to a map with Gaza broken up
into very tiny partial teams as
2:17:17
if Israel tried to evacuate
these parcels of civilians along
2:17:20
established evacuation routes.
In an attempt to avoid civilian
2:17:24
casualties as the fighting
resumes at peace worth noting
2:17:27
the Secretary of State Antony
Blinken was just here. He said
2:17:30
Israel had to have a concrete
plan to protect civilians before
2:17:33
they launch the second phase of
their operation. Well, that is
2:17:37
now here. He also said Israel
needed a plan for more
2:17:39
humanitarian assistance, and yet
aid trucks outside of Gaza that
2:17:43
have already been inspected by
Israel. According to an
2:17:45
eyewitness on the ground there
have not gotten in since this
2:17:48
morning. So Phil, it is very
much a question of whether that
2:17:51
humanitarian aid has now been
cut off with the fighting
2:17:54
resumed.
2:17:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we know
that's not true because to
2:17:57
yesterday's report showed that
came through
2:18:00
Adam Curry: Poppy Harlow broke
it down for us.
2:18:03
Unknown: This hospital simply
cannot take more children with
2:18:07
the wounds of war. There are
children everywhere these
2:18:09
children are sleeping there was
a farm literally 50 meters from
2:18:13
here. This is a war on children
2:18:16
and war on children's stock
warrants from a UNICEF spokesman
2:18:20
as the truce between Israel and
Hamas has ended. He was speaking
2:18:24
from one of the last remaining
hospitals that is operating in
2:18:27
Gaza the Hamas controlled
Palestinian health ministry says
2:18:30
6000 children have been killed
in Gaza since the October 7
2:18:34
terror attack that's
2:18:36
Adam Curry: all you need to know
to war on children. That's it.
2:18:39
That's when it's a war on
children. And with that, I'd
2:18:43
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you
2:18:44
the man who put the sea and the
war on children ladies and
2:18:47
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end the one and
2:18:49
only Mr. John
2:18:55
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you Mr. Curry in the
2:18:57
morning it was chips to see
boots on the ground feet in the
2:18:59
air subs in the water and all
the games and all the nights
2:19:09
Adam Curry: we got 2073 trolls
in the troll room
2:19:15
Unknown: 400 low.
2:19:18
Adam Curry: They are eventually
just going to have to take this
2:19:20
as the as the new normal. No,
no, no. Okay. All right. That
2:19:25
mean, I would say by Christmas
we'll be back to doing the
2:19:29
executive producers in after the
first hour because it'd be very
2:19:33
short. I know. I know. Look,
I've been around this gig. I
2:19:36
know. Hey, I've been around gig
man. But for now, we're still
2:19:41
very happy to report we have
2073 Trolls hanging out with us
2:19:44
in the troll room which you can
join them when there's room for
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And of course first before our
show is the the fabulous Darren
2:20:03
O'Neill, who celebrated to Ozzy
Osborne.
2:20:06
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, he
played his songs. They're
2:20:09
terrible.
2:20:10
Adam Curry: They're not terrible
as you saw,
2:20:12
John C Dvorak: Lee.
2:20:14
Adam Curry: Yo, bah bah humbug
Come on man. What do you want
2:20:17
Lawrence Welk Darren plays some
Lauren's well for John on
2:20:21
Thursday.
2:20:23
John C Dvorak: That's right.
That's the way to go counter
2:20:25
argument is lower as well.
2:20:27
Adam Curry: Yeah, both Ozzy is
classic man, this is sucks. Oh,
2:20:32
wow. All right, John dvorak.org.
You can't, you can't mess with
2:20:37
us. That's just not that's
that's unAmerican
2:20:40
John C Dvorak: stinks.
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Adam Curry: You can also be
alerted when we go live. When
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any of the shows go live.
Actually, if you subscribe to
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the podcast and a modern podcast
app, go to modern podcast
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right now. I like it a lot. It's
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got a lot of cool features in
there. Or you can just join us
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at no agenda social.com where I
have not posted a single post
2:21:06
since the last show and I will
continue my boycott because it's
2:21:10
horrible.
2:21:11
John C Dvorak: Gary all over you
about your Musk hater.
2:21:16
Adam Curry: You even told the
guy that he should be kicked
2:21:18
off. I
2:21:19
John C Dvorak: did i Well, you
are at least paying attention. I
2:21:22
read a course knock it off your
gig. You're you're making a fool
2:21:25
of yourself or quit quit the
platform. Yeah. And
2:21:29
Adam Curry: did you see his
reply? No.
2:21:31
Unknown: They told me I'm sorry.
I didn't
2:21:33
Adam Curry: know that you
couldn't deconstruct the media
2:21:36
deconstructors or have an
opinion or make
2:21:40
John C Dvorak: this guy get rid
of and take him off. I'm
2:21:42
Adam Curry: not doing anything
of the kind. I'm okay. I'm
2:21:45
watching
2:21:46
John C Dvorak: he thinks he
thinks you're a big aihole Chris
2:21:49
he thinks I am now two because I
defended you.
2:21:51
Adam Curry: Thank you. I
appreciate that. No, I'm just
2:21:54
this is now a social experiment.
I'm just watching it devolve
2:21:57
into into mush it says who
chaos? Yes, people I used to try
2:22:02
and you know, manage it a little
bit tell people you know try and
2:22:05
calm stuff down. I'm not I'm
left to their own devices. Even
2:22:09
people who believe they're on
the same team of love goes just
2:22:14
there. Everyone is traumatized
and we're and everyone's yelling
2:22:18
and
2:22:18
John C Dvorak: one mining of
John Conway's The Game of Life.
2:22:23
A very early computer program
that came out in the probably
2:22:25
the late 70s. That was this
little it started these little
2:22:30
the game. It was a great it was
just regular old fashioned
2:22:33
screens before graphics came
along. And then these little
2:22:37
communities would crop up and
they would show you how they
2:22:39
grew and shrunk and grew and
shrunk and they never
2:22:41
stabilized. And they all went
extinct. And I'm reminded of
2:22:46
that when I see what's going on
there. Well, that's what it's
2:22:49
always going to be it reminds me
of the no agenda forums that was
2:22:54
lively and a great just went
extinct because it was they went
2:22:58
nuts. Now
2:22:59
Adam Curry: what happened with
no agenda forums, as they kept
2:23:01
saying, You need to post over
here, you need to participate.
2:23:06
And I was like, I got no time
for that. Well, you don't love
2:23:08
us. And I said Well there
2:23:10
John C Dvorak: was that what the
real killer for them was they
2:23:12
started their own podcast. The
rounds counter program was
2:23:16
Adam Curry: the rounds and it
was called the roundtable wasn't
2:23:18
it? I think
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: something like
that. Yeah. Yeah. And so they
2:23:21
were just as if this podcast
that nobody paid attention to
2:23:24
because just these No,
2:23:26
Adam Curry: that's not the they
tried to do a podcast about our
2:23:29
podcast every day or twice a
week and it turns out Oh, it's
2:23:33
really hard. Well,
2:23:34
John C Dvorak: actually that
that's more than another one yo
2:23:37
agenda was more along those
comic strip blogger. Yeah, yeah.
2:23:42
And his buddy had there's two
guys and they was yelling rouse
2:23:45
about our show. Yeah, and then
when the show that's when the
2:23:49
show first started and then when
it got like two hours long and
2:23:53
then it got harder. Yeah, they
2:23:56
Unknown: couldn't they couldn't
bailed out.
2:24:00
Adam Curry: We got which we
smothered them with love. No, no
2:24:04
What you should do this and I'm
a proponent of the troll room. I
2:24:08
think it's good for people to go
to troll room.io During the
2:24:13
show, go in there and go I hate
you. You suck because it's just
2:24:17
disposed off. And it goes away
and then yeah, I've been nothing
2:24:21
really happens. It's just this
good. You get it out of your
2:24:23
system. I think it's a really
that's that is the place to go.
2:24:27
Then and you also can't post
memes that's another good thing
2:24:31
about it. You know, it's just
text. So you have to be crafty
2:24:34
with words you know, you have to
have some talent talent. Not
2:24:38
really.
2:24:39
John C Dvorak: Anyway use NET.
2:24:43
Adam Curry: Now, what was the
what was the email system that
2:24:46
you went to the bulletin boards?
Remember, you would write an
2:24:50
email and then it would it would
upload and it would would that
2:24:55
was MCI Mail was no no, no, no,
no, no, no. It was through the
2:24:58
bulletin boards. It
2:24:59
John C Dvorak: was Isn't
CompuServe email oh
2:25:02
Adam Curry: no no before that it
wasn't the source no before that
2:25:06
it was It wasn't Fido next was
they don't add Yes, that's it.
2:25:10
Nailed it fight on it. Yes. And
you'd have to wait a day and
2:25:14
have to wait wait for the phone
lines to open up with a guy
2:25:18
would have a bulletin board with
five phone lines. You have a
2:25:21
demon Island to have a
2:25:22
John C Dvorak: bulletin board
back in the day you had to have
2:25:25
Multics number of phone lines
coming in. So you'd have to be
2:25:28
with hand 20 phone lines. This
is a good thing for the phone
2:25:31
companies
2:25:32
Adam Curry: what was all local
calls? You had to find a
2:25:35
bulletin board with a local
local numbers so you could be
2:25:38
because you know long distance
no one could afford it.
2:25:41
Especially not at 300 baud or
whatever we had. It was
2:25:44
John C Dvorak: 300 baud.
Remember those quickly went to
2:25:47
1200. So there you go. And then
2:25:49
Adam Curry: we got the Hayes
compression protocol.
2:25:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, maybe and
his Hayes. Remember that?
2:25:56
Adam Curry: Good time. Yeah,
2:25:57
John C Dvorak: I do. Remember
all that stuff. Now I had all
2:25:59
that gear. Now
2:26:00
Adam Curry: I have five gigabits
per second fiber in my lifetime,
2:26:06
okay, meaning just because you
have two networks that don't
2:26:09
even get one in total. Apply. I
have two networks that both get
2:26:13
or not get you're getting one to
the local head end to the ping
2:26:16
you're not getting any any was
that's true with everything
2:26:19
right? So once you don't give me
this getting food, it's not that
2:26:24
it's not about the speed. It's
about the amount of things I can
2:26:28
have simultaneously. I can have
my tours and I can have my
2:26:32
Umbral at my start nine and we
can bring Yes, yeah, I see. Why
2:26:40
is that funny to
2:26:41
John C Dvorak: you? is funny.
2:26:44
Adam Curry: All right. We are a
value for value show. We
2:26:48
pioneered the concept. You know,
even you know even the noster
2:26:52
guys are now calling themselves
value for value. Yeah,
2:26:56
eventually will be forgotten.
Well, I think it's already
2:26:59
happened. I have a feeling well
wait way past that point. Yeah,
2:27:05
man, Jack Dorsey invented value
for value. That's how that went
2:27:09
bad. I started that company a
long time. Thanks, Jack at Jack.
2:27:14
Yeah, so we decided long ago
that the only way to be able to
2:27:19
speak freely is to not have
advertising or any corporate
2:27:22
interests or any anything that
that is other than than just us
2:27:27
and the audience which we never
called listeners. We decided to
2:27:30
call you producers because
that's what you do. You send us
2:27:33
clips you send us articles boots
on the ground your insights,
2:27:36
your knowledge. Sometimes even
your
2:27:39
John C Dvorak: by that we had
talking about that. We had like
2:27:42
I didn't I may or may not read
these today probably in the show
2:27:45
it coming up. We have at least
three people that I got email
2:27:49
from who work in the facilities
at these various water
2:27:54
facilities. Yes, I know all the
insight about designers is bold
2:27:58
crap. And they using you know
passwords, the default password,
2:28:02
the full passwords, and anyone
can hack in and there's no
2:28:05
reason is on the net. We have
people that do. That's why when
2:28:09
you ask for somebody who knew
about this insurance scam, it'll
2:28:13
show it will get it it'll show
up because we it's astonishing.
2:28:16
I have to say at some point is
astonishing. The people that we
2:28:21
have that work in every single
industry, I was talking to
2:28:23
somebody about the show recently
and they asked me well what are
2:28:26
we talking about? What's your
demo? He asked me
2:28:29
Adam Curry: what's our demo? Did
you Did Why did you kick him in
2:28:32
the shins and poke him right in
the balls?
2:28:36
John C Dvorak: So I said the
great thing about our show is we
2:28:40
have no demo yes little kids
stole men old women and
2:28:45
everything in between an
engineers and and everything
2:28:50
pilots I mean his preachers
everybody is astonishing the
2:28:55
demo
2:28:56
Adam Curry: Yeah. Every race
creed religion background
2:29:00
everything that yes, we have we
have a world demo telling
2:29:06
John C Dvorak: our world that's
probably easier on him than
2:29:09
kicking him in the balls
2:29:10
Adam Curry: well it's too late
now than me the guy never talked
2:29:13
to you ago and pissed off about
it. So the way that works is if
2:29:17
you get any value out of the
show and if you don't you got to
2:29:20
question your life because why
well you could be hate listening
2:29:24
could be hate listening. Yeah,
2:29:25
John C Dvorak: so are we do have
hate listeners. Oh, you know,
2:29:28
but a lot but we do have those
shows that I hate to listen to
2:29:32
by listen to regularly. Yeah,
you're a hate list or you got a
2:29:35
find shows you ate
2:29:37
Adam Curry: I know there's only
one show I hate. Then I listened
2:29:39
to by the way she's on TV now
she's on. She's on a Sunday CNN
2:29:45
panel show. I can't wait for the
clips. Oh brother is right. Led
2:29:50
by that x Fox guy. What's it
what's his face
2:29:54
John C Dvorak: with X for lunch?
Sanchez?
2:29:57
Adam Curry: No, no, the guy who
left Fox the fake If you're
2:30:00
famous dad what's his name?
2:30:02
John C Dvorak: Tucker Carlson.
2:30:04
Adam Curry: Other famous? No the
news guy. We went I'm leaving
2:30:09
this fox you Republicans? I'm a
liberal. Oh Shepard Smith. No,
2:30:13
no, no, no, no, no.
2:30:16
John C Dvorak: burn as many
names as I can. Chris Wallace.
2:30:19
Oh, Chris Wallace. That guy.
Yeah.
2:30:22
Adam Curry: He moderated and
carried his way is just
2:30:26
John C Dvorak: a well, it's dud
meets Duck.
2:30:29
Adam Curry: Duck meets dud. Oh,
gotta write that one down. Dud
2:30:33
meets duck anyway back to value
for value. So here's an example
2:30:39
of though it's a sad example
because Sir Paul couture created
2:30:42
the no agenda art generator for
us no agenda, art generator.com.
2:30:46
And he's maintained that thing
for well over a decade, we had
2:30:49
one before that, but it's it
really that is true value
2:30:52
because he
2:30:53
John C Dvorak: changed the
structure of it led midway
2:30:55
through me way. And you know,
there's overspend just smooth as
2:30:59
silk, over 24 25,000,
2:31:02
Adam Curry: always smoother. So
24 25,000 pieces of artwork,
2:31:06
this is where the artists
compete. This thing went, went
2:31:11
belly up, hardware failure, and
he has just been pulling his
2:31:15
hair out trying to get it back
online. So he has a temporary
2:31:18
page up, we got all kinds of
solutions. But the point is, we
2:31:22
never would have started that we
never, we would never been able
2:31:25
to afford to pay someone to do
that. You know, we would look at
2:31:29
the monthly bill and go and I
can hear you go and why are you
2:31:33
paying for this. And it goes for
all kinds of things. We have
2:31:37
never had to do any of that. All
we have to do is deconstruct
2:31:40
media and assemble a show twice
a week and we're so grateful
2:31:45
everyone that's value for value.
Yeah,
2:31:48
John C Dvorak: volunteerism is a
big part of it. That's not
2:31:51
something you can just do if
you're a commercial entity, no
2:31:53
selling ads, try invites. I
mean, our show invites
2:31:58
volunteerism we get we get
reports that are voluntarily
2:32:02
submitted, we get the artists
voluntarily done your we have
2:32:05
somebody doing the Art Generator
did it voluntarily. And so
2:32:09
that's what it's a big deal when
you can get a system together
2:32:13
that has a lot of volunteerism,
because you end up getting a
2:32:18
astonishing product until it
craps out. But obviously,
2:32:24
Adam Curry: it has its ups and
downs. This
2:32:26
John C Dvorak: downside? Yeah,
there's a downside. It's kind of
2:32:28
it's kind of quaint. No, it's
2:32:30
Adam Curry: like I like it
because we can't yell at
2:32:32
anybody. You know, if
2:32:34
John C Dvorak: you can't do what
you're gonna do. Working for
2:32:37
free. Yeah. Break
2:32:38
Adam Curry: if we dislike if
we've been paying for this, we
2:32:41
will like get that thing back
up. I can't believe it knows
2:32:43
now. Like, I'm not spun up over
it. I'm not mad or fired. I'm
2:32:47
not. I'm not mad, like, Oh, I
feel bad. I feel bad for Paul.
2:32:51
But he's trying to fix that. And
it's a pain.
2:32:54
John C Dvorak: I'm sure. It's,
it's a miserable situation,
2:32:58
taking him this long, no
2:32:59
Adam Curry: doubt. So with that,
that's the time and talent
2:33:02
portion. We also have the
treasure the three T's of value
2:33:05
for value, time, talent,
treasure, and we love to thank
2:33:09
our executive and Associate
Executive Producers right at the
2:33:12
top of our list. We always read
out the amounts we give the
2:33:15
notes that people have sent him.
And we are very inept.
2:33:19
John C Dvorak: We we call we got
to thank the artists for the
2:33:21
last artwork.
2:33:21
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
who it was because I remember
2:33:24
you sent it to me. He said, I
don't know who did it.
2:33:28
John C Dvorak: But the artists
who did it, just send us a
2:33:30
notice. Hey, so we couldn't be
some credit here. So I
2:33:33
Adam Curry: can put your name
into the credits, which are just
2:33:36
empty because I didn't know who
had done that because it was
2:33:38
something you just collected. I
2:33:41
John C Dvorak: collected what I
Yeah, normally before I do a
2:33:44
newsletter, I go onto the Art
Generator and I find two or
2:33:47
three pieces of art that I might
want to use for the newsletter
2:33:50
and then I'll place it into the
newsletter and see if it works.
2:33:53
And that piece was rejected. And
or I'd used it I'm not I don't
2:33:59
remember. But whatever the case
is that so I always have a bunch
2:34:02
of pieces sitting in my files
that I
2:34:06
Adam Curry: just looked at your
email. You mean you email
2:34:09
yourself?
2:34:09
John C Dvorak: No, it's no I
don't know. I do it directly. I
2:34:12
do just save save images.
2:34:14
Adam Curry: Oh, right. Right
click Save image as nice. Yeah,
2:34:16
I
2:34:17
John C Dvorak: don't do any
emails like stuff
2:34:18
Adam Curry: slick. All right. So
yes, we'd like to thank our
2:34:24
Executive Associate Executive
producers and we start off with
2:34:27
a guy who has always been there
for us, usually about once a
2:34:31
month sir animus of Dogpatch and
Lois LeBeau via and T sends now
2:34:36
this is not an atypical number
for him because he likes to
2:34:39
dollar bills. He sent us a row
of ducks 2222 which I'm going to
2:34:46
presume was in cash and included
$2 bills at least one one cue
2:34:50
dollar bill. Yes. And he says
thank you to any always has a
2:34:55
typewritten note we have very
little idea about about this
2:34:59
pretty Mr. Schreiner must have
Dogpatch in Los Lobos,
2:35:02
John C Dvorak: other than
Bikkies anonymous, he keeps
2:35:04
himself Anonymous is
2:35:05
Adam Curry: anonymous and he is
a patron saint for us. Thank you
2:35:09
to all the producers, and
congratulations to the many that
2:35:12
now use the pronoun doctor.
That's a pronoun we stand
2:35:17
behind. And thank you to John
and Adam, for being effective
2:35:20
altruists, working on holidays,
finding the best use of your
2:35:23
remaining lives is to
deconstruct news and entertain.
2:35:27
Wait a minute, is he predicting
our doom here? Working on
2:35:32
holidays and finding the best
use of your remaining lives.
2:35:35
That's you and I, John, is to
deconstruct news and entertain
2:35:38
the dedicated producers. It is
good to see Americans fight the
2:35:42
effort to impose theological
beliefs into law by so called
2:35:46
conservatives, having a little
experience with countries
2:35:49
committed to conservative
theological law of laws of my
2:35:52
faith, implementing some of
these laws can cause even those
2:35:56
with strong morals to question
their interpretation. No, that's
2:35:59
deep. It's deeper than normal. I
think for Serrano, he's
2:36:03
John C Dvorak: must have been
given a parking ticket or
2:36:05
something I'm guessing in Saudi
Arabia, which comes with a
2:36:10
beating.
2:36:12
Adam Curry: John has often
referenced shanty towns as an
2:36:15
alternative to 10 cities. And I
would say you've promoted the
2:36:19
idea. Yes, I have the political
term at the time was Hoover
2:36:23
villes. Yes, under President so
2:36:25
John C Dvorak: that was in the
30s. But there's been a we've
2:36:28
hit, but worldwide is what I'm
talking. I'm talking about the
2:36:31
shanty towns that are that are
everywhere, but the United
2:36:34
States, not the hood hills.
Well, and he
2:36:37
Adam Curry: continues, but go on
Kara, with elections in the
2:36:40
offing. Perhaps they can be
named Biden towns or Trump towns
2:36:45
could work well, but the
incumbent usually gets naming
2:36:48
rights. No jingles, no karma.
But thank you so much on Mr.
2:36:52
Dogpatch. And Lois LeBeau. Via
you always have the best mute
2:36:55
cut right through it. Even if it
if it's cutting through us. We'd
2:36:59
love you for it. Thank you.
2:37:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, who reveals
we're because they had this
2:37:04
homeless situation back in the
30s. And it was like, resulted
2:37:08
in these little is nothing like
today, as far as I can tell it,
2:37:12
looked into it to what we have
going on today in certain
2:37:15
cities, New York would be one of
them. Chicago, San Francisco of
2:37:20
old, they're not there. I know
what happened to them. And
2:37:23
Berkeley had a big town of
homeless under what happened to
2:37:27
them.
2:37:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, same
2:37:32
John C Dvorak: acreage and them
do their own thing. plumas up,
2:37:37
and she is Bluma I think it's
caught Hi, Kai. Kai. Hi. Hi. Hi,
2:37:42
Hawaii, Kauai in Hawaii. I asked
the guy once do you pronounce in
2:37:50
Hawaii or Hawaii? And he says
you pronounce it Hawaii? How
2:37:54
about simple thing. I said well,
thanks. And he said You're
2:37:57
welcome, though.
2:37:59
Adam Curry: Oh boy. Did that
joke writer write that one for
2:38:02
you?
2:38:04
John C Dvorak: Was from my
vaudeville days. Yes, of course.
2:38:07
She came in with 111111 Nice
satchel Richards. She says param
2:38:14
Manyana gents Oopsie doopsie
Dame pluma protector the
2:38:17
feathered whales from here to
Hawaii with a correction and a
2:38:20
make good for show 1612 And a
few dollars for your troubles
2:38:24
I'll say she donated $1,000 And
she wanted to make good so she
2:38:28
donated No 11 Do it wow that's
what I call a producer producer
2:38:33
please note soul sister Kelly or
egos birthday is December 4 Not
2:38:38
January 4. Oh no. My mistakes or
credit her with those 5111 Bonus
2:38:45
Bucks and give her another
birthday biscuit.
2:38:49
Unknown: If time allows I have a
birthday biscuit for they always
2:38:51
give me a biscuit on my
birthday.
2:38:54
John C Dvorak: also received my
PhD was somewhat skipped over
2:38:57
during the massive pronunciation
ceremony and I can't
2:38:59
legitimately claim my dame hood.
It's I feel that sort of
2:39:03
touchdown on my shoulder and
upon my we amygdala PS Maori
2:39:10
boots on the ground coming soon.
Spoiler alert, no real solutions
2:39:13
for the survivors on the table.
Yet surprised mahalo nui loa for
2:39:19
your courage and the supportive
community you've co created
2:39:23
Bluma
2:39:24
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Yeah, we
got everything all set up for
2:39:27
you. Vert fuller is in Batavia,
New York, although with a name
2:39:32
like vert and a place like
batavi you think it would be
2:39:35
Deutschland? But no New York
$1,000 with a handwritten note
2:39:40
on Native American Rights Fund
paper, which I thought was
2:39:44
interesting. And says John, I
guess I don't exist. I've no
2:39:50
this is possibly late but I will
never get a chance again for a
2:39:53
doctor near my name. So here's
my check for $1,000 I will give
2:39:58
this before Cathy Hoko takes
everything from New Yorker and
2:40:04
Joby takes the rest I need karma
for my sister and will who will
2:40:09
be leaving soon I will miss her
apple pies it's like it's so
2:40:15
cool to retro
2:40:16
John C Dvorak: that just drove a
random name of pi physical
2:40:20
Adam Curry: Tourettes advice.
I'm sure I've given enough for
2:40:23
knighthood and would like to be
served dirt karma to all from
2:40:28
vert sir dirt now. So does he
Are you going to send him a
2:40:32
doctorate? Yeah,
2:40:33
John C Dvorak: when he says the
details of the address. He came
2:40:38
in he came in on time. Yeah.
Okay.
2:40:40
Adam Curry: Well, here's a Karma
as requested. You got you've
2:40:42
Unknown: got karma. I'm gonna
put apple pies
2:40:46
Adam Curry: for the roundtable
just in case I
2:40:48
Unknown: add that for a second.
Maybe
2:40:50
John C Dvorak: that's what he
meant. I'd like it though. apple
2:40:52
pies. Josh Brownlee in the
Korra. Iowa to be Decker. I
2:41:00
think the Cora may be I don't
know. Four Four. 4.66. Gets me
2:41:04
to do 1000 I guess I get a
knighthood plus PhD. No, you get
2:41:08
a knighthood. What I really want
however, is jobs karma from my
2:41:12
wife who just got laid off last
week. You can now call me sir
2:41:17
protector of the Driftless
areas. Grandma's hummus for the
2:41:21
roundtable. Please. You
2:41:22
Unknown: got jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs.
2:41:26
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for
jobs. Karma.
2:41:32
Adam Curry: And then we have
Carl post from riegelsville
2:41:36
Pennsylvania. 336. Merry
Christmas. Happy birthday to my
2:41:40
smokin hot wife Donna post. What
are you drinking?
2:41:44
John C Dvorak: It's the same old
signature seltzer original. Do
2:41:49
Adam Curry: you think you'd do
something of a show and get
2:41:51
something new to drink? Yes,
2:41:53
John C Dvorak: I will. The next
time you hear a can opening is
2:41:55
going to be something wild. Oh,
I
2:41:57
Adam Curry: can't wait. Merry
Christmas. Happy birthday to my
2:42:00
smokin hot wife Donna post.
Here's an executive producer for
2:42:03
your suffix to keep up with your
Dr. Your doctor. And it says oh
2:42:09
no, I'm sorry. There's a little
I'll reread that. So this is for
2:42:13
Donna. Here's an executive
producer for yourself. It's to
2:42:15
keep up with the doctors and
CPAs at work. Yes. Well done.
2:42:21
Good idea.
2:42:24
John C Dvorak: Alright, Rick,
Rick Rick Parkins hearkens.
2:42:30
Parkins intervener. Noise shot.
2:42:34
Adam Curry: It's like new wiener
Ville. Really?
2:42:36
John C Dvorak: New Hot Dog. New
Hot Dog. Austria. Yes. Yeah.
2:42:41
Well, they have a good posture
has got great food. Yeah, I
2:42:45
started listening to you Gu
after Adam's appearance on Peter
2:42:49
McCormick's podcast. What
Bitcoin did I'm hooked. Yeah. So
2:42:54
what podcast was this? I never
heard of it's
2:42:56
Adam Curry: called what Bitcoin
did is very popular, very
2:42:58
popular. More popular podcast
well, you couldn't do some to
2:43:03
you know.
2:43:06
John C Dvorak: You're the pretty
boy. The donation is also in the
2:43:10
donation is also in celebration
by 61st trip around the sun,
2:43:14
which finishes on the second of
December, please add me to the
2:43:17
birthday list. You're on it.
Thanks for everything and keep
2:43:20
up the exceptional work. Jingles
busy like Boom shaka laka little
2:43:24
girl yay and some jobs karma
from my smokin hot girlfriend.
2:43:28
Eva greetings from Vayner
nauseous dot Austria, new
2:43:33
wieners town or Irish Vlerick
Perkins, bingo boom
2:43:42
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Jobs.
2:43:52
Adam Curry: Shawn Boyce, Buford,
Georgia 333 One of our favorite
2:43:55
numbers ITM with the addition of
our new human resource. I
2:43:58
haven't had as much time to
listen but please deduce me with
2:44:02
my 333 donation
2:44:05
Unknown: deed deuced
2:44:08
Adam Curry: and thank you for
all you guys do please share
2:44:10
some just share share some jobs,
jobs karma we are all self
2:44:15
employed. So it's namely so is
it named differently? No, it's
2:44:19
It's jobs Carmen for our online
shop. We've created the Atlanta
2:44:23
tennis monsters characters and
made really cool shirts by Mark
2:44:27
sunder Meyer, aka mark the
artist who needs to be called
2:44:31
out as a douche bag. did hit him
in the mouth last year special
2:44:35
no agenda code for 20% off marks
Atlanta tennis monsters T shirts
2:44:40
is no agenda 23 If anyone wants
to help a brother out Oh Ken
2:44:45
gianduia sales voice for Atlanta
tennis monsters.com
2:44:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can. I
had to put that up. Hold on.
2:44:55
Yeah. Okay, Sean boy. This book
is which where is it where it
2:45:02
would have been this was
hilarious. Hey, go to Atlanta
2:45:08
tennis monsters.com and get
yourself some great great T
2:45:14
shirts. Voice Yeah, that's
2:45:18
Adam Curry: the voice I think
that's the one. I was thinking
2:45:20
of creating a shirt that says
everything I learned about
2:45:22
podcasting I learned from Adam
curry not just don't just don't
2:45:25
Please don't. Lastly, can we
request podcast calm before
2:45:28
Atlanta tennis podcast? Is that
a thing? If not, can it be?
2:45:33
Well, of course it can if I give
it to you. Absolutely. Thanks.
2:45:35
And if you ever need a tennis
expert send me a note Sean Boyce
2:45:39
and my smokin hot wife and
business partner Giovanni
2:45:42
Buford, Georgia jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs for jobs.
2:45:52
John C Dvorak: Now we have a
$333 donation from Switzerland
2:45:57
from Moran a bear in heart. Bear
in hearts good router.
2:46:04
Adam Curry: Which means that
which means St. Bernard's
2:46:07
greeter oh, maybe it sounded
funny
2:46:12
John C Dvorak: but sounds like
it 333 And I will give him a
2:46:17
double up.
2:46:18
Adam Curry: No no, there you go.
You've got karma takes us to our
2:46:26
first Associate Executive
Producer millennial Fred 250.
2:46:30
See attached note. Let me see
millennial Fred says donation.
2:46:36
Dear John and Adam, Adam and
John, here are some options for
2:46:38
your retirement plans. work
until you drop preferred by most
2:46:43
if not all shows your value or
potential final episodes 3333 or
2:46:49
2133 or 2121 or 2112. Adam check
your Pio box. Sincerely
2:46:57
millennial Fred, I will do that.
That will do millennial Fred,
2:47:00
thank you.
2:47:01
John C Dvorak: Do you still have
the old Pio box to
2:47:03
Adam Curry: know I have my Pio
box 1849 in Fredericksburg,
2:47:06
Texas
2:47:07
John C Dvorak: fair. What about
the old one that no no,
2:47:08
Adam Curry: no, that's long
gone.
2:47:10
John C Dvorak: Did you make sure
it was forwarded?
2:47:12
Adam Curry: Am I an idiot? Of
course.
2:47:15
John C Dvorak: But that's a
question that needs full show.
2:47:18
Go for it. Okay, Ryan do SEO in
Fishers Indiana. Rove ducks.
2:47:27
Two, two. Dang. And a great
note. Best note. Thank you for
2:47:30
your courage. See you in Indy.
2:47:33
Adam Curry: Stephen Rebus City
of Industry California row of
2:47:36
ducks. 222 dot 22 Greetings.
2:47:39
Unknown: Oh,
2:47:39
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I didn't
have these lined up. Of course.
2:47:43
Ah, another Trump. I'm gonna
come because it's so funny. So
2:47:46
funny. I'm going to start I'm
gonna have to start outlawing
2:47:49
this one. Trump comm All right,
Trump calm. And then, Orange.
2:47:57
Sorry, I didn't have these
prepped for some reason. I got
2:48:01
the orange. Where's the orange?
Orange Yellow is like an orange
2:48:05
orange is a big orange to have
the orange Yes, I've orange
2:48:09
yellow. And go karma from my
bros. Mick Tao Ben G Thank you.
2:48:16
PS bad MailChimp spank that
monkey. Haha.
2:48:19
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna come
you've got you've got sir FOD
2:48:32
father in Indianapolis, Indiana.
tu tu tu tu tu tu and he's also
2:48:36
known as Ted cattle in the
morning, thank you. Savor
2:48:41
saviors of sanity for all you
do. May you never find an exit
2:48:45
strategy as proof that I do
occasionally give a duck. I
2:48:48
present the enclosed row of
ducks the value of which shall
2:48:54
hoist me over the bar from
Baronet to the exalted title of
2:48:58
Baron. To the peerage committee
find no objection to title sir
2:49:02
FOD. Father shall be retired and
I shall henceforth be known as
2:49:08
Sir Edward of tattenhall. Baron
of flyover country, jingle
2:49:14
little girl. Yay. And he says I
just made just in time for a
2:49:18
visit from Adam and Tina to the
Circle City. Whoo hoo. See you
2:49:22
in December, Adam and John, You
are cordially invited as well.
2:49:27
Come on down. Love is lit.
2:49:32
Adam Curry: Yes, tomorrow. Tina,
the keeper and I will be flying
2:49:36
to Indianapolis for a meetup
tomorrow evening. And we're very
2:49:40
much looking forward to it. We
spoke to mark and Maria, who
2:49:44
organized all of these meetups
and so apparently they have a
2:49:47
stage there and they had a great
idea which I agreed to. They
2:49:51
want to do ask Adam so everybody
will be writing down their last.
2:49:58
Funny you had the same reaction
I had except I was quiet about
2:50:01
it when I'm gone. Okay. Yeah,
great idea. So we'll do that.
2:50:04
But I have a condition. The
meetup report, which is always
2:50:08
very professionally produced
from the indie crowd, I want you
2:50:12
first thing that comes to your
mind, I want you to instead of
2:50:15
your typical, no, no. No, I want
you to tell me the thing you are
2:50:23
most grateful for this year.
That is what I want everybody to
2:50:26
do for the meetup report. That
is, so we need to shake these
2:50:30
things up a little bit. See? Oh,
please. Dane Beth is in Tucson.
2:50:35
Arizona to 22 Hi. Oh, boys.
Here's my annual birthday gift
2:50:39
to myself. Boy I'm sorry, I
forgot the yay. Here's my annual
2:50:44
birthday gift to myself
supporting the beat podcast in
2:50:47
the universe. I hope she meant
best. Born on 12 Two at 2222
2:50:53
hence the dollar amount. Tucson
slaves watch for a meet up in
2:50:56
the new year. No jiggles no
karma Dame Beth bareness of Baja
2:50:59
Arizona
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
name on line 15
2:51:04
Adam Curry: No, I don't have his
name either. Funny enough. The
2:51:08
the amount is typical or at
least we're gonna
2:51:11
John C Dvorak: get a make good
from whoever sent us $207.49
2:51:15
Let's give him a double up karma
whom ever they are.
2:51:18
Unknown: You've got
2:51:24
Adam Curry: then we have Joe
death in new Baltimore, Michigan
2:51:28
200 In The Morning John Adam
today December 30 is my birthday
2:51:31
happy birthday. And what better
birthday present to myself to
2:51:34
becoming a producer of the best
podcast in the universe. This is
2:51:37
also my first donation please do
doo dee doo sched was hitting
2:51:46
was hitting the mouth. I was hit
in the mouth by Buddy last year
2:51:49
and I've been faithfully
listening since please also call
2:51:52
this buddy out as a giant douche
bag. He knows who he is for
2:51:58
jingles. Can I get a biscuit for
my birthday? Yes, of course you
2:52:01
can. A little Reverend owl and a
goat karma. Well we can
2:52:05
definitely give you a little
Reverend Al we love doing it
2:52:07
goat karma as well.
2:52:09
John C Dvorak: They always give
me a biscuit on my birthday. ESP
2:52:16
I see? You've got karma. And I
think he got on the birthday
2:52:25
list is marked as such. Debbie
and Lake Mary Florida. $200. No
2:52:31
note whatsoever. Give them a
double up karma. Or a she?
2:52:35
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
All right. Then we have John
2:52:41
Cooper, who was in China,
Michigan. Is there really a
2:52:46
place called China Michigan?
2:52:48
John C Dvorak: Probably Wow,
that's
2:52:50
Adam Curry: rough.
2:52:51
John C Dvorak: I can get it.
Where are you from? I'm from
2:52:53
China. What you don't look at
2:52:57
Adam Curry: those kinds of suck
from China. I can't go to India
2:53:01
as a peasant. So I tallied my
donations to learn my 2053 makes
2:53:07
me an instant Baronet. pleased
to announce to Kate me as
2:53:11
Baronet John of the St. Clair
low lands with Ryan rye whiskey
2:53:15
and grilled beef at the
roundtable. No jingles no karma.
2:53:18
Many thanks, John Cooper from
China, Michigan.
2:53:22
John C Dvorak: And then last on
our list. I believe it's last is
2:53:25
yes. Linda Lou packin ha. She's
in Lakewood, Colorado and she
2:53:31
wants jobs coming by the way.
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:53:52
Adam Curry: Congratulations and
salutations to these executive
2:53:56
and Associate Executive
producers. Why congratulations
2:53:59
because not only have you
supported the best podcast in
2:54:01
the universe with your producer
ship. These are titles that are
2:54:04
real and usable anywhere credits
of this nature are recognized
2:54:09
which is show business. So you
can use it in your LinkedIn
2:54:12
profile, use it on your resume.
And of course you can if you
2:54:14
don't have one, you can open up
an IMDB account, they are
2:54:17
universally recognized there.
Almost 1000 Executive Associate
2:54:21
Executive producers in IMDb
including some real heavy
2:54:24
hitters from Hollywood itself.
And thank you all so much for
2:54:28
supporting us. We really
appreciate it. And we also want
2:54:31
to thank everyone who came in
under $50 For reasons of
2:54:34
anonymity. We never mentioned
any names under that amount, but
2:54:38
we have a lot of people who just
give us $5 From time to time
2:54:41
when they can we love you just
the same. Thank you so much the
2:54:45
value is in the amount that is
valued to you and what you can
2:54:48
afford. So thank you for anyone
who support us in any amount.
2:54:52
And John will take us through
the 50s and then we'll get into
2:54:54
our meetups and a couple other
things.
2:54:56
John C Dvorak: Sir am Andrew
Jones starts us off and $11 Is
2:55:00
11 cents and he also actually
did send in a nice car.
2:55:04
Adam Curry: Isn't he the book
guy? am Andrew Jones I remember
2:55:07
him he's we He sends us books.
We've read his books. I think
2:55:10
we've read his books.
2:55:12
John C Dvorak: Well, he does
also draws. He drew a little
2:55:14
mountain on his card is very
cute. He says, Thanks, sir Ted
2:55:18
in mendon New York. $111.11 just
$111 Baron lategan in Houston,
2:55:24
Texas. $100 right John
neurobion. A $100. Kevin
2:55:28
McLaughlin is up there already
Concord North Carolina. Boobs.
2:55:33
808 The ultimate pick me up he
writes William Alston in El
2:55:39
Paso, Texas 808. He says thanks
for the infotainment, Sam Deaton
2:55:46
in signal mountain Tennessee
7258. Jose already parrot per
2:55:55
bred A's Paret A's parodies
Paradesi in Wichita, Kansas,
2:56:01
that 6993 He's got a wife call
out for his his wife, a wife
2:56:07
called call her birthday wife
call her wife call out Shayla
2:56:12
Jim breath in north Wales
Pennsylvania. 6666 Parentis was
2:56:18
6933 If I didn't say Kevin
McLaughlin is backwards 606 with
2:56:22
the comment. Boobs are perfect.
Boobs are the perfect gift for
2:56:27
it's what it says boobs are the
perfect gift for any occasion.
2:56:33
Except the grim Marion's
occasions. Peter Chung and that
2:56:37
was 606 Peter Chung in Lakewood,
Washington. 5510 Brian Furley
2:56:43
5510 Jordan Polino in Salem,
Oregon 50 Opps these are all $50
2:56:50
donors were there already as a
shortlist the starting with
2:56:55
gays, Justin as Justin Heiner
and he's just in time. Tony Lang
2:57:01
Castle Pines Colorado, dotted
mind Lincoln, UK. James
2:57:07
sheremeta in Napa anak New York.
Kirkpatrick in nine Nanaimo,
2:57:13
British Columbia and for some
reason starting to pronounce
2:57:16
that wrong. Is that the dog
girls,
2:57:18
Adam Curry: but I did hear the
dog.
2:57:21
John C Dvorak: I didn't play a
dog. No, I
2:57:22
Adam Curry: thought I heard the
basset hound.
2:57:24
John C Dvorak: And now there's
no dog here. Oh, that dog. Oh,
2:57:27
hey, this this guy. I love my
truck and I love what I do. I
2:57:32
was hurt Patrick and I Nymo
Let's go 50 Charles Peterson
2:57:37
with a D in Albuquerque. Jacob
Martinez in El montay,
2:57:41
California, Brett Farrell, who I
believe is in New York City. And
2:57:45
last on his short list of very
short donation lists today as we
2:57:48
expected after the promotion was
over Baroness night in Edmond
2:57:54
Washington. That's our group. We
have
2:57:58
Adam Curry: a we have a couple
of make goods and things that
2:58:02
need correcting. Three in total.
Sir Gary, who came in under 50
2:58:07
and did want us to read his
note. Sir Gary of Kasko point on
2:58:11
Lake Minnetonka here fantastic
show. This week I'm writing and
2:58:14
attaching a spreadsheet showing
these exceeded the level needed
2:58:17
as of December to become a
Baronet. If I may put in a
2:58:20
shameless plug for a noble
organization. I am State
2:58:23
Director for bugles across
America, at bugles across
2:58:26
america.org. Our sole purpose is
providing live taps free of
2:58:31
charge for any US veteran
funeral honor services. Oh,
2:58:35
beautiful.
2:58:35
John C Dvorak: By the way, this
I got this note. And I said,
2:58:39
Wow, this is a very famous
organization. And they did some
2:58:43
local stories about him. Yes,
that's exactly what they do.
2:58:46
They bring out the bugler and
they can give taps to the some
2:58:50
of these funeral systems. And
this guy is the head of it, I
2:58:53
guess. Wow. And I'm a stunt.
This is an example of the kind
2:58:57
of astonishing producers we
have. I mean, this is like as I
2:59:01
was taken aback.
2:59:04
Adam Curry: Well, I wouldn't
mind a little no agenda bugle
2:59:07
recording, honestly, something
we could play on the show,
2:59:12
John C Dvorak: especially after
a short donation segment. I
2:59:14
think taps would be appropriate.
I
2:59:15
Adam Curry: don't want taps I
just want some do like I want to
2:59:18
charge thing or whatever.
Anyway, our sole purpose is and
2:59:21
you're right. This is a very
famous organization providing
2:59:24
live taps free of charge for any
US veterans funeral honor
2:59:27
services. The military authorize
the use of a recording of tabs
2:59:30
for these events in the year
2000. Since then, our founder
2:59:33
Tom day and some 4000 volunteers
he has assembled take care of
2:59:37
this last tribute to our
veterans Oh, I sees the military
2:59:40
but we'll just do it we'll just
use a recording and they said
2:59:44
John C Dvorak: no, they gave one
here on my phone. Yeah. God
2:59:47
Adam Curry: bless you guys.
We're doing that. If you could
2:59:49
just give the website ask people
to remember when their veteran
2:59:52
passes on that there's good
chance that they will have a
2:59:54
recorded taps performance rather
than having a heartbeat behind
2:59:58
those sacred 26 Notes. Just go
to the website put in the date
3:00:01
and details and someone will
contact you and be there for
3:00:04
your veteran. That's not too big
of an ask. We we love that you
3:00:08
do that. Sir another website.
Well, I'd mentioned it three
3:00:12
times bugles across america.com
bugle a.org. Bugles across
3:00:17
america.org bugles across
america.org? That's bugles
3:00:21
across america.org Sir Not sure
it says Dear John Adams, donated
3:00:27
for show 1611 I want to express
the value I receive is
3:00:30
priceless. When every news
source tries to cover up the
3:00:34
truth you guys kept me sane to
the so called pandemic at a time
3:00:37
when fear was shoved down our
throats. I would like to claim
3:00:41
this he did the 333333 donation.
I would like yeah, then he had
3:00:46
no no big one. Note, I would
like to claim the title Baron
3:00:51
keeper of the tri lakes If
approved by the peerage
3:00:53
committee. I'd also like to call
out Alex, Russia as a douchebag
3:01:00
thanks for bringing me to your
show, though. Love is lit. Thank
3:01:02
you guys for Mark brushroll. And
finally, sir Julian says I was
3:01:07
originally United back in
episode 1184 titled objects it
3:01:11
with a night name that I found
to be funny at the time, but
3:01:14
it's not family friendly. My
last donation on November 20,
3:01:18
put me well over the necessary
level in donations, which I do
3:01:22
believe makes me a baron. For my
title change. I would like to be
3:01:26
known as Sir Julian Baron of the
Santa Cruz Mountains of this
3:01:29
territory is available, John
available. Yeah, it's good. But
3:01:32
John C Dvorak: what was his old
name that he didn't like? Oh,
3:01:34
it's
3:01:34
Adam Curry: apparently not good.
But the note gets more
3:01:38
interesting. This is truly the
best podcast in the universe.
3:01:41
And I don't know where I'd be
without it. I'm grateful that
3:01:43
you to do what you do. You guys
always say that. Couples that
3:01:47
listen together, stay together.
Well, that idea is being tested
3:01:51
right now. Because of me, I
would really appreciate all the
3:01:55
relationship karma I can get
right now. And he doesn't know
3:02:01
like, wow, this
3:02:02
John C Dvorak: is a bad thing.
3:02:03
Adam Curry: He has a note to the
love of my life. Babe. I love
3:02:08
you from the bottom of my heart.
And I don't know what to do
3:02:11
without you. I hope you can find
it in your heart to forgive me.
3:02:17
Julian forgiving Harmar I would
say he messed it up. Big time.
3:02:28
Big time big time.
3:02:30
John C Dvorak: Not getting
bashed.
3:02:32
Adam Curry: You just making
things worse. The guy's trying
3:02:34
to you know trying to patch
things up man. Like have a heart
3:02:39
of a heart of a heart. Thank you
everybody for supporting the
3:02:42
best podcast in the universe,
especially our execs and
3:02:45
Associate Executive producers.
Thank you for supporting us here
3:02:47
for episode 1103 formula. One,
3:02:52
Unknown: we go out 60 People in
the mouth
3:02:57
Adam Curry: out of control
3:03:02
Unknown: 1613.
3:03:15
Adam Curry: We do have a couple
of birthdays to celebrate we
3:03:17
have four Kirkenes who turned 62
Yesterday. Dane also celebrated
3:03:22
yesterday. Joe Duffin turns 27
Today Jose bananas by Autodesk
3:03:27
wishes his wife Shayla Happy
Birthday she's celebrating
3:03:30
today. Zack Taylor turns 54
pluma Happy Birthday to Keeley
3:03:35
Rico for tomorrow and on the
fifth. My uncle Donald Greg will
3:03:41
be turning 96 years old Happy
Birthday uncle Don and Carl
3:03:45
posed wishes his smokin hot wife
Donna posted a very happy
3:03:49
birthday happy birthday from
everybody in the best podcast in
3:03:52
the universe
3:04:02
don't want to be induced. You
heard a couple of those tidal
3:04:05
changes here they are listed in
appropriate order. We have
3:04:09
served area of Casco point and
on Lake Manitoba becomes a
3:04:13
Baronet Sir Not sure become
certain on shore barren keep up
3:04:17
the tri lakes are Julian's or
Julian Baron of the Santa Cruz
3:04:19
Mountains and certified father
becomes a Baronet Sir Edward
3:04:23
Hall, Baron of flyover country
Thank you all very much for
3:04:27
supporting us here at the no
agenda show. It is highly
3:04:30
appreciated. We do have a dame
which is of course there was the
3:04:33
pluma that we messed up and we
have a couple of nights so let's
3:04:37
get a nice one to rest on. pluma
shoulder there, John.
3:04:40
John C Dvorak: Here you go.
3:04:41
Adam Curry: Oh, that isn't nice.
Come on up. Sorry. Sorry. We
3:04:45
messed it up. Works for John
Brownlee. John Cooper. Hop on
3:04:50
over here if you don't mind
please. I'm very proud to
3:04:53
pronounce the cane vs. Bluma
dame of the feathered whales,
3:04:59
sir dirt Sir protector of the
driftless area and Baronet John
3:05:04
of the St. Clair lowlands for
you we have hookers and blow
3:05:06
rent boys and Chardonnay along
with that apple pies, grandma's
3:05:10
hummus, rye whiskey and grilled
beef and of course, DEC red hide
3:05:15
redheads and rise we got
Rubenesque women and Rosae gay
3:05:18
son and sock a bong hits and
bourbon, ginger ale and Jerboas
3:05:21
breast milk and pablum sparkling
cider and escorts and mutton and
3:05:27
meat everybody loves the mutton
and meat and I would also like
3:05:29
to welcome the word fuller as a
doctor and he can also go to no
3:05:35
agenda rings.com no agenda
rings.com where you will see
3:05:38
pictures of your beautiful
knight or Dame rings. Also it
3:05:41
comes with wax to seal your
important correspondence with in
3:05:45
addition to that a certificate
of authenticity. All you have to
3:05:49
do is make sure that you give us
an address to send it to and a
3:05:54
ring size. All of that will be
making it a lot easier to get
3:05:57
that to you thank you so much
for being here for us the best
3:06:01
podcast in the universe. No one
said
3:06:11
like a party we had a meetup
taking place in the Netherlands,
3:06:15
no audible report but this was
Tilburg Cafe Kandinsky and let's
3:06:22
see on our producer there so do
John out on the meetup in
3:06:25
Tilburg went well Baron Robbins
or Detective Do terace We're
3:06:29
joined by for first timers who
had traveled from afar Roland, a
3:06:33
recent recent Associate
Executive Producer, Umbro
3:06:36
Katrina and Ralph and dog turbo.
We had great conversations
3:06:40
through quality time well spent,
thanks to all and thank you for
3:06:43
your courage and we go over to
the report from Denver
3:06:46
Unknown: Denver meetup checking
the shift hand up notes from the
3:06:48
Netherlands meetup we drank a
lot of beer a bunch of people
3:06:52
were smoking weed but they're
trying to hide it from us and
3:06:55
mirror nook in a lot of mirror
and looking in the conversations
3:06:58
I guess will keep the meetup
going on our global round the
3:07:02
world no agenda meetups thanks
everybody. Yeah,
3:07:06
great meet up this is Sir our I
have Georgia on my Mind.
3:07:10
Colorado Carebear at the Denver
meetup. Tito ITM
3:07:15
Josh the Samsung checking in
from North Aurora. This is him
3:07:19
Andrew Jones still napping for
human quarry in
3:07:22
the morning, sir soothsayer
3:07:23
here. Thank you John for
actually spelling My name or
3:07:26
saying my name correctly. Brand
fairly. That's the way you say
3:07:29
it in the morning.
3:07:33
Adam Curry: meet ups. Today. A
meet up in Cheyenne is underway.
3:07:38
I believe it chronicles
distillery in Cheyenne, Wyoming
3:07:41
on tomorrow. We have the
December nd no agenda meetup.
3:07:45
That's right the flying to
flyover country event at the
3:07:48
dugout bar and I will be there
with my keeper kicking off at
3:07:52
seven o'clock. Looking forward
to it's gonna be a blast. On
3:07:56
Wednesday, the fourth monthly
Webster County whet your whistle
3:07:59
meet up five o'clock at
Community tap and pizza Fort
3:08:02
Dodge Iowa. And the next show
day Thursday five forks first
3:08:07
Thursday six o'clock at
Bullwinkle Tavern in
3:08:10
Simpsonville, South Carolina and
the North wake Thanksgiving
3:08:14
recovery circle of trust. Excuse
me. tepid water. Yep. And water.
3:08:23
Compass Rose brewery, Raleigh,
North Carolina and on the way
3:08:26
man we got a lot of meetups all
the way through Christmas and
3:08:29
beyond including December 22.
Sofia, Bulgaria looking forward
3:08:34
to a meet up report from that.
We have Houston Texas, Brooklyn,
3:08:38
New York, Brooklyn on the ninth
very interesting and February 3,
3:08:42
Albany, California to get John
out of the house. 2.0 meet up
3:08:46
you going.
3:08:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, looks like
it. Yeah, I guess so.
3:08:49
Adam Curry: I'm excited. That'll
be good. So finally you get out
3:08:52
of the house. Again,
3:08:54
John C Dvorak: once it
3:08:55
Adam Curry: happens twice a
year. It's amazing how that
3:08:58
works. Those are your no agenda
meet ups. Make sure you go to at
3:09:01
least one of these in your
lifetime. And once you do, it's
3:09:04
like Pringles you can't you
gotta eat them all. You can't
3:09:06
stop because just like we said
earlier, our demo is the world
3:09:11
you will be thrilled to meet
people that you might not have
3:09:15
had a conversation with
otherwise, it is the companion
3:09:19
to the podcast, go out meet some
of your producers. No agenda
3:09:22
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself
3:09:26
and remember, connection is
protection.
3:09:31
Unknown: Hang out with Tyson
days. You'd be triggered. You
3:09:42
want to be everybody feels the
same.
3:09:48
Adam Curry: Like it's always
like a party. We truly are
3:09:51
parties. It's a great party. To
me. It's just like a party
3:09:55
that's on fire. Not like a like
a collection another party's
3:10:01
cup.
3:10:02
Unknown: I like that. I
3:10:02
Adam Curry: only have one. Ice
so I feel bad. I'm falling down.
3:10:06
I
3:10:06
John C Dvorak: should feel about
what is it getting tea bag?
3:10:08
Unknown: There's no doubt about
it. What? We're getting tea bag,
3:10:12
John C Dvorak: there's no doubt
about it. We're getting tea
3:10:14
bagged.
3:10:15
Unknown: We're getting tea bag.
3:10:16
John C Dvorak: There's no doubt
about this Tucker, for whatever
3:10:19
reason. I don't know what the
hell that's about. It's not
3:10:22
good. It's no good. I have three
that are all usable. But let's
3:10:26
see which one you like. All the
requisite one second law. Okay.
3:10:33
So at the top I have that means
something. And that
3:10:35
Unknown: means something. Do I'd
like to up talk on that? Yeah.
3:10:38
Okay. Yeah, I
3:10:39
John C Dvorak: do, too. I like
that. devastated.
3:10:42
Adam Curry: I was devastated.
Not I still like the first one
3:10:46
better. Okay.
3:10:48
John C Dvorak: And then. Not
right. Something wasn't right.
3:10:52
Adam Curry: I think all of them
3:10:54
John C Dvorak: Yes. Interesting.
I didn't notice that when I
3:10:56
flipped them. But they all have
an uptick. And they're all Yeah,
3:10:59
Unknown: but this this is and
that means something. I liked
3:11:02
that one the best. Yeah, I think
that worked out really is good.
3:11:05
Oh, hold on. Now it's time for
3:11:09
Adam Curry: God see God. People
love this segment. They listened
3:11:13
to die. Don't believe that for a
minute. People love the good
3:11:17
news segment. It puts them in a
good mood. They're happy like,
3:11:20
Oh, now I can leave this program
and just feel good about myself.
3:11:24
Yes. Yes. People are telling me.
I love the good news. Nobody's
3:11:29
John C Dvorak: done this. But
okay. It's true. Good news. This
3:11:34
is the good news clip for today.
It's about the dog named mage.
3:11:40
Unknown: Firefighters leaped
into action saving 100 pound
3:11:43
Great Dane trapped in a deep
hole. This happened off an old
3:11:47
south a road and Lake Wheeler
road. Tonight we talked to Majus
3:11:51
owner about the rescue mission.
This is mage in happier times.
3:11:59
And this was mage on Saturday
afternoon. The 100 pound great
3:12:03
game fell into an old well 50
feet.
3:12:06
Oh no call 911 right away. And
you know they come out but they
3:12:11
they don't have the they have to
call the right department that
3:12:13
has the right equipment. You
know, they had to bring that
3:12:16
tripod situation with all the
climbing harnesses and
3:12:19
everything to get down there.
3:12:21
Crews from carry fire fear view
rural fire and Swift Creek Fire
3:12:25
Departments responded. They used
a rope rescue technique. It took
3:12:30
hours and plenty of patience for
crews were able to lift the mage
3:12:34
out.
3:12:35
I don't know. But unscathed. I
just can't even believe it. It's
3:12:39
quite a drop and it is covered
up now, by the way completely
3:12:42
covered up. So yeah. You know,
part of me kind of wanders.
3:12:47
Yeah, part of me kind of
wonders, you know, did she fall
3:12:51
to save someone else?
3:12:52
So how did mage get down in that
old Well, we found out mage is
3:12:56
owners now Dean's recently
purchased a property and the
3:13:00
wells it's quite a distance from
the family home. They didn't
3:13:04
think it would be a problem. But
now they know differently. Mudge
3:13:08
is now home safely. And her
family couldn't be more thankful
3:13:12
for first responder.
3:13:13
They did all of this for my dog.
I mean, and she is part of our
3:13:16
family truly. So God bless them.
I mean, they were very, very
3:13:20
organized. When they showed up.
They had a plan. They knew
3:13:23
exactly what to do. Oh, I
3:13:25
was so happy for months now that
well was covered before with
3:13:28
barbed wire. The family has now
covered it with some rebar. So
3:13:32
it doesn't happen to anyone
else.
3:13:36
Good news story from JCD happy
vibes for you and me and we all
3:13:44
feel better. Now he's done his
bit. To back to reality. That's
3:13:49
turning to shit.
3:13:52
Adam Curry: Good news. Good
news. Good news. Well done,
3:13:55
John. There's nothing like a
good good news story that's
3:13:58
about a dog. Dog. It's always
good. It's always good. There's
3:14:02
nothing wrong with it. Nothing
wrong at all. And we come to the
3:14:06
end of our media deconstruction
for this day. Thank you so much
3:14:10
for supporting us, dragging us
through. We hope you enjoyed it.
3:14:15
Hope you learned something. Hope
you got some value from it.
3:14:18
We've got that Larry show coming
up next on the on the tube on
3:14:23
the wires. It's episode 442
titled Mary Griffis Oh, that's
3:14:29
gonna be good lad Larry show and
the show mixes Neal Jones,
3:14:33
Stephen Jenkinson, and Jesse
Coyne Nelson who never
3:14:38
disappoints. Looking forward to
meeting everybody and indeed
3:14:42
tomorrow evening coming to you
from the parts of the Texas hill
3:14:47
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
3:14:50
everybody. I'm Adam curry and
3:14:52
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain.
3:14:55
I'm John C. Dvorak.
3:14:56
Adam Curry: And with that, we
bid you adieu We look forward to
3:15:00
seeing you again on Thursday.
I'll have my meetup reports and
3:15:05
all kinds of groovy stuff, no
doubt because the news never
3:15:09
stops. Nor does the
deconstruction. Remember us at
3:15:12
the borax.org/na until Thursday
on iOS mobile phones or who we
3:15:16
who eat and such.
3:15:23
Unknown: This was straight
3:15:25
out of Putin's playbook.
playbook, this playbook was
3:15:31
playbooks, playbooks, playbooks
playbook. We
3:15:35
know this is definitely part of
the Russian playbook. Russian
3:15:41
playbook playbook played in the
Russian, the Russian philosophy,
3:15:45
the Russian playbook will not
change. So I think that is the
3:15:47
Russian playbook. It is part
3:15:49
of the Russian playbook. The
tactics look familiar like a
3:15:53
page from Russia's playbook
because of what he called Rush's
3:15:56
playbook on murdering people.
Clearly
3:15:58
Russia benefits the most from
this and it does fit the Russian
3:16:02
playbook.
3:16:11
playbook and
3:16:13
Russia Russia's playbook. But
what Putin is doing in Ukraine
3:16:18
is actually straight out of the
Russian military planners
3:16:20
playbook.
3:16:23
Putin's playbook. playbook, a
playbook to win. The Republican
3:16:29
Party adopts Russia's
authoritarian playbook. So
3:16:33
Ukraine is a country Russia is a
major country, Russia in the
3:16:38
past century, Russia decided to
invade militarily unprovoked,
3:16:43
basically, that's wrong. We
respect the sovereignty and
3:16:47
territorial integrity. Right.
Right. Right. Right. Right.
3:16:56
Right. Right, right. Right.
Right. are saying that's wrong.
3:17:07
And we will stand with Ukraine
in saying that that is wrong. We
3:17:11
know that what Russia is doing
is wrong. There needs to be
3:17:15
severe consequences. You'll hear
on the news, their bad behavior.
3:17:20
You'll hear on the news, their
bad behavior. That's what the
3:17:24
issue is engineer bad behavior.
You'll hear on the news, their
3:17:29
bad behavior. That's what the
issue is essentially. Right.
3:17:34
Right, right. Right. Right.
Right. Right. Right. Right.
3:17:54
Where if you take out Saddam,
Saddam's regime, I guarantee
3:18:02
that it will have enormous
positive reverberations under
3:18:08
Judas. You lie in DC
3:18:17
if you take away the Soviet
Union, and its chief proxy, the
3:18:20
PLO, international terrorism
would collapse.
3:18:37
Any other nations that you would
recommend that the United States
3:18:40
launch pre emptive attacks upon
at this point?
3:18:44
The answer is categorically Yes.
Is Iraq and Iran but third
3:18:48
nation by the way is Libya as
well Libya is trying very
3:18:52
rapidly to build an atomic bomb
capability all stand together to
3:18:57
stop Iran's March of conquest,
subjugation and terror no matter
3:19:03
on which side of the island set
you stand with Israel.
3:19:23
mopho.org/n A and that means
something