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Unknown: Hey Jesse Hey there.
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John C Dvorak: Hey Jesse. Hey
there. Adam curry, John C
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Devorah.
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Adam Curry: Number 720 23 This
is your award winning
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combination media assassination
episode 1614 This
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Unknown: is no agenda
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Adam Curry: harnes We're
broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country and
fever rings number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we're witnessing
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the worst pandering in the
history of media since Gutenberg
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Taylor Swift Person of the Year
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. I thought
I'd have you with my sports ball
0:43
reference, but no, no, you go
straight for the for the Taylor
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Swift. This is not pandering.
This is calculated this is
0:51
Taylor Swift is an OP. pandering
op, op op op. Oh, yeah, well,
1:03
John C Dvorak: where's the OP
part of it? Oh, listen, another
1:06
Unknown: story just breaking
within the last hour Time
1:08
Magazine's 2023 Person of the
Year has been announced. It is
1:13
Taylor Swift. Yeah. Finally,
it's been an interview with the
1:23
let's make sure the first woman
to appear twice on a Person of
1:27
the Year covers since this
franchise began in 1972, also
1:32
chosen in 2017. That designation
began nearly a century ago to
1:37
honor in an individual group or
concept that have the most
1:40
influence on the world in the
previous 12 months for good or
1:45
ill. She was also the first
person to be selected because of
1:48
her shipment in the arts is only
the chairman person was born
1:53
within the last 50 years to be
named first woman to be
1:57
recognized more than once.
Breaking news, a small group of
2:01
repeat designees, including
several US presidents and world
2:07
leaders. You
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Adam Curry: don't realize this.
She is an OP. You just wait.
2:12
John C Dvorak: What's the OP?
Oh,
2:14
Adam Curry: wait until she
activates the Swifties against
2:16
Trump. Just wait, but she
already did that. Oh, no, no,
2:20
that she hasn't done anything
yet. She has not unleashed the
2:23
full power that is Taytay. You
wait. Well,
2:28
John C Dvorak: the way I see it.
They saw what she did for the
2:30
NFL. And they said well, yeah,
let's do it. But wait a minute,
2:33
Bill. We can't We can't give her
we already gave it to her in
2:36
2017. We haven't even give it
the golden era twice. We didn't
2:39
give it to Roosevelt, the old
lady. We haven't gives me an
2:44
even Hillary didn't get it to
nobody got it twice. While we're
2:47
giving it to her. She's a
singer.
2:49
Adam Curry: She's an OP.
2:52
John C Dvorak: Now we're gonna
give it to her because we'll get
2:53
more readers to our fine
magazine.
2:56
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, Forbes
could have taken a page out of
2:59
that playbook. They named the
most powerful woman. Did you
3:05
see? Yeah, Queen Ursula. most
powerful woman in the world. The
3:11
John C Dvorak: word Equiline is
she's
3:13
Adam Curry: the most powerful
woman in the world. Actually,
3:17
the it's literally the world's
most powerful woman. second year
3:21
in a row. I didn't even know
that she beat off competition.
3:24
From Fifi.
3:25
John C Dvorak: We did beat off a
few guys. Oh, John.
3:29
Adam Curry: What goodness. Yeah,
happy Hanukkah, everybody. And
3:37
this is also Pearl Harbor
Remembrance Day. flags at half
3:41
staff. I don't know if people
remember it anymore.
3:43
John C Dvorak: Nobody remembers
today to remember though, but
3:46
nobody remembers it is
3:48
Adam Curry: if you're ever in
Fredericksburg, Texas. Go see
3:50
our beautiful museum. The
Pacific War Museum, which will
3:57
help you there was a lot going
on that we don't know that we
4:00
have long forgotten. We were
buddies with the Chinese back in
4:03
the day. Who knew? Oh, yeah, the
Flying Tigers. Yeah, we were
4:07
friends with the Chinese and we
were we were beaten off the Japs
4:12
as it were. And we're right back
to to Queen Ursula. There you
4:17
go. So I went to nd
4:22
John C Dvorak: went through the
bill. Yes, yes. You might as
4:24
well give us a quick report.
Well,
4:26
Adam Curry: someone gave me RSV
or something. Thanks.
4:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, you got sick.
4:30
Adam Curry: Oh my god. I've been
coughing all night. Oh, yeah,
4:35
it's really infected. I'm
telling it's RSV. Someone gave
4:39
John C Dvorak: me RSV. Why would
it be anything else can't be it.
4:44
Could be tuberculosis? No, no,
no. RSV,
4:47
Adam Curry: this no all this
that's all it can be. Anyway,
4:50
John C Dvorak: they're spraying
it around I'm sure of it.
4:52
Adam Curry: We had about 100
crop dusters. 130 people was
4:55
fantastic. What a great event
but that's nice. We we flew out
4:59
from Austin have
5:01
John C Dvorak: everything that
you drove the whole way,
5:03
according to Tina, while
5:05
Adam Curry: driving to Austin is
already an hour and 45. So it's
5:08
quite a ways. Now you haven't
flown in a while I hadn't flown
5:13
in, in a bit, or at least not
since the new TSA machines
5:20
John C Dvorak: among the new
machines now. Yes, yes. This is
5:23
the X ray.
5:24
Adam Curry: Well, that's not for
you. It's for your bag. So you
5:27
no longer do you have to take
your laptop out of your bag.
5:30
Your electronics
5:31
John C Dvorak: giant bullet
looking? Yes, the Aino they had
5:35
an A they had a prototype of one
of those in Oakland. Yeah, well,
5:39
now they're everywhere. Good
looking machine. Yeah,
5:41
Adam Curry: they got the blue
and the red Halo lights on it.
5:44
For all I know, it's just a tube
with nothing in it. I mean, it
5:47
looks like
5:47
John C Dvorak: nothing going on
at all. But there's actually a
5:50
small midget in there opening
your bags,
5:53
Adam Curry: but the name of it
is just it's laugh inducing. A
5:57
no logic. I mean, come on, guys.
I mean, I'm sure it's Anna
6:02
logic, but you can't I mean, as
a 15 year old that I am you
6:06
can't not look at and go ain't a
logic. Anyway, it does does
6:12
speed up the process. They don't
look at your boarding pass
6:14
anymore. I think we've kind of
been through this. You just show
6:17
your driver's license. Oh,
you're good to go. Come on
6:19
through. They got everything
ready. They know they know what
6:21
you're doing. They know where
you going. So this is organized.
6:26
So we flew in and were picked up
by Dame Christina Pearl and her
6:31
husband Charles, they drove us
straight to the venue from the
6:35
airport was perfect. We got a
130 people, Mark and Maria, who
6:40
organized this. They are this is
John, you have no idea how well
6:45
organized this is. This whole
place was ours. They had a
6:49
stage. The stage if you had a
stage, the stage was dressed.
6:54
You know they had Christmas
poinsettias everywhere. They
6:58
have a band that if we wanted it
that could have been a band
7:01
great sound system had a mic you
know they do they do a raffle.
7:05
So the way they do it is
everybody pitches in into the
7:08
pot. And I think we have a
couple of
7:10
John C Dvorak: this is that
Indiana has been going on for a
7:13
while. Yeah. Well, one of our
other Indiana producers couldn't
7:17
get anyone to come to his thing.
Yes.
7:19
Adam Curry: And but that's
probably because everybody was
7:22
into this thing. This is the
place so they do this raffle.
7:27
And everybody pitches in
whatever they want. I think
7:30
there's three Switcheroos maybe
four executive producers today
7:33
from so the money that's put
into the raffle pot goes to a
7:39
donation and people get an
executive producer from for on
7:42
the show. But then they but you
also get a prize. And they had
7:46
like a no agenda license plate.
The first thing to go to many
7:50
eggs book.
7:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the
7:53
Adam Curry: book autographed
autographed by Mimi,
7:55
John C Dvorak: there was an
autographed version there. Yes,
7:57
Adam Curry: there. Yes. Yeah, I
mean, this this thing is tight,
7:59
man. It's organized. There were
people who drove in from Ohio
8:05
and from Michigan. That's that's
not super far, you know, hour
8:08
and a half or so. But it still
was nice to have them there.
8:11
There's a Rolls Royce aircraft
engine plants very nearby. And I
8:17
met at least two engineers
8:19
John C Dvorak: that died the
Rolls Royce was an English
8:21
company. Now
8:22
Adam Curry: this is they they
purchased this they purchased
8:25
some some aircraft engine
manufacturer and it's in
8:30
Indianapolis. Indianapolis is
very famous as Indy center which
8:34
is the big ATC did
8:37
John C Dvorak: you go up on that
delta tall thing in the middle
8:39
of town?
8:39
Adam Curry: They do you mean the
tower? Yeah, no. But we had
8:44
several air traffic controllers,
at least three.
8:48
John C Dvorak: And I want to
hear the stories.
8:51
Adam Curry: Well, I I was given
some interesting documentation
8:55
of UFOs which I'm still parsing
through because these are
8:58
reported to the to the air
traffic controllers at
9:02
Indianapolis. So there's some
some videos that I'm checking
9:06
out these guys are crazy. But
also I got a full rundown you
9:12
know about this, this so called
shortage of the of the air
9:17
traffic controllers. This bowl I
mean yeah, of course there's you
9:22
know, there's a shortage but
it's really it's it's mainly the
9:25
the union that wants to keep the
shortage because everyone's
9:28
getting overtime and making
bank. So that's the way to go.
9:33
Yeah, now of course everyone is
getting divorced because they're
9:35
working so much they can barely
keep their families got all this
9:39
all this money. Exactly. Let me
see what else that I have on my
9:45
list that we had the seminary
crew was there a lot of kids, a
9:48
lot of kids very diverse crowd
in age and background and it was
9:53
just it was it was quite quite
phenomenal. Ryan diazo gave us
9:59
two Silver COVID shield coins
ounce of silver each, so I'll be
10:04
sending yours off to you. I'm
gonna see was there anything
10:09
else that that I had a lot of
amazing how many people said,
10:16
You guys changed my life? Or you
guys save my life? Which, which
10:22
is weird, you know, I was like,
Well, you know why? Well during
10:25
COVID But talk him well, I guess
our talk him during COVID gave
10:29
people at least the courage to
know that they weren't the only
10:32
crazy ones. I
10:33
John C Dvorak: think that's it.
Yeah, we didn't save anybody's
10:35
life we informed them that
there's a subset of people out
10:39
there that have common sense.
Yes. And they're probably
10:42
they're part of it,
10:43
Adam Curry: and they're part of
it. And the final thing I would
10:46
say if you ever go into
Indianapolis do as we did, I
10:49
like staying at airport hotels.
I'm a big fan of that, that we
10:53
stayed at the Embassy Suites.
This place is dynamite. Yeah,
10:58
it's brand new. If you would put
this place in an airport and
11:03
Miss Yeah. Airport Embassy
Suites. Yeah, with a shuttle
11:06
with the shuttle shuttle to the
airport. This, if you had put
11:10
this in downtown Indy, you
probably would have paid $700 A
11:14
night and we wound up paying
under 200. There was an end just
11:18
beautiful, free made to order
breakfast the next morning. It
11:24
makes no sense to stay in a
hotel anywhere else. But at the
11:26
airport. It's just the way to
go. And then you know, you roll
11:31
out of bed and it's like I don't
have to worry about can I get a
11:34
cab or an Uber or traffic or any
of this now it's going to be
11:38
great. So anyway, it was thanks
you thank you again, Mark and
11:42
Maria for for taking good care
of us. It was a lot of fun. It
11:46
was good to do one of those
meetups again, and thanks for
11:49
the RSV. Appreciate it. It's
great.
11:52
John C Dvorak: But you do sound
a little congested.
11:54
Adam Curry: Oh, it's I was
coughing all night. I won't
11:59
complain. I won't complain
because that's the least of our
12:02
worries, because we've got red
blinking lights.
12:05
Unknown: Today the FBI director
was asked point blank if the
12:08
terror threat in the US is as
bad as it was before 911. deeply
12:14
disturbing. All the
12:15
lights were blinking red before
911 Apparently, obviously all of
12:20
us missed it. Would you say that
there's multiple blinking red
12:24
lights out there multiple.
12:25
I see blinking lights everywhere
I turn Oh, no, it's the Israel
12:28
Hamas war started. Get your eyes
checked right says the terror
12:32
threat is at a whole nother
level with a number of terror
12:36
groups including ISIS and al
Qaeda, using social media to
12:39
call for attacks, including
right here in the US. The DOJ
12:43
also seeing a spike in threats
against the Muslim community yet
12:47
stunning increase in threats
aimed at Jewish Americans
12:50
starting October 7, what's never
12:52
Adam Curry: seen a time where
all the threats, or so many of
12:56
the threats are all elevated all
at exactly the same time. Though
13:00
there must be a reason for this.
What could the reason be
13:02
Unknown: gray is calling on
Congress to renew a law that
13:05
allows the FBI to conduct
surveillance on suspected
13:08
terrorists overseas. That last
interview here, Ray says given
13:12
the threats now is not the time
to let that happen. You
13:16
Adam Curry: shouldn't even be
thinking about it. Now is not
13:18
the time. It's the worst more
red blinking lights than ever.
13:22
And I loved how Abc New York
discuss this topic.
13:25
Unknown: And now this sobering
warning from the FBI director
13:28
who says this agencies the
morning show, the morning show
13:31
on ABC is working around the
clock to prevent potential
13:34
domestic attacks by Hamas or its
sympathizers joined now by ABC
13:38
reporter Erica Turski. Erin,
thanks for being here. All of
13:41
this came out during the Senate
hearing yesterday, Director Ray
13:44
really highlighting the concern
to lawmakers. Let's play a
13:47
portion of that, and then we'll
get our
13:49
John C Dvorak: portion. What I
would say that is
13:51
Adam Curry: unique about the
environment that we're in right
13:54
now in my career is that well,
there may have been times over
13:56
the years where individual
threats could have been higher
14:00
here or there than where they
might be right now. I've never
14:03
seen a time where all the
threats are so many of the
14:07
threats are all elevated, all
elevated exactly the same time.
14:11
That's what makes this
environment that we're in now.
14:13
So fraud, they need to bring
back the color codes, man, we
14:17
need to show it on the screen
just
14:19
John C Dvorak: Nashi we're gonna
do this every Republican thing
14:22
Adam Curry: by funding our men
and women who are working
14:25
shoulder to shoulder with state
local law enforcement and other
14:28
partners every day. makes it
even more important, not less.
14:32
Unknown: So blinking red lights
analogy about 911 All the lights
14:37
were blinking red before 911.
Apparently, this is obviously
14:41
all of us missed it. Would you
say that there's multiple
14:44
blinking red lights out there
14:47
eating everywhere in turn. So
certainly chilling comments,
14:51
especially here in New York,
Aaron and some of the threats
14:54
that he talked about the
elevator chatter online from al
14:57
Qaeda and ISIS. Did you learn
from
14:59
this Oh, It is chilling because
it's coming at a time when the
15:02
Israel Hamas war has elevated
the threat level for Muslim
15:06
Americans, there's been a
skyrocketing number of anti
15:09
semitic threats against the
Jewish community. And that's
15:12
been a consistent theme since
October 7.
15:15
Adam Curry: Now Now listen to
the news models jump in and make
15:19
sure that you understand that it
would be crazy not to reinstate
15:23
the ability for the FBI to spy
on everybody. That would just be
15:27
nuts.
15:28
Unknown: And in his comments
came as they're looking whether
15:30
or not to authorize this this
section 702 of the FISA right,
15:34
this is an Intelligence
Surveillance Act. This has been
15:37
highly debated before. What does
that mean, and what do we expect
15:40
to happen?
15:40
One of the reasons why the FBI
director is so concerned about
15:43
the threat level is because this
is about to expire. It's a tool
15:47
that the FBI can use effectively
against Trump. Yeah, on foreign
15:52
terror groups, and Trump Trump's
concern of overreach and it
15:57
isn't necessarily a popular
measure when it comes to debate
16:00
on Capitol Hill. But the FBI
director is imploring Congress
16:04
to reauthorize coming up, yeah,
Trump otherwise he says some of
16:10
the chatter that Shane or
noticed or potentially preempt a
16:13
plot that would go unnoticed but
Erin, there is a flip side to
16:17
this right. And some people
would say this is politically
16:19
motivated. The Trump it seems
like both sides of the aisle
16:22
feel that this could infringe on
Fourth Amendment rights, right.
16:27
There's always a go of FBI
overreach, hear that the tool is
16:31
being used in ways that maybe it
shouldn't be used to to spy on
16:36
Americans or to do other
surreptitious things. And
16:39
there's a real suspicion these
days, especially in Republican
16:43
politics, about a deep state and
that complicates the job of the
16:48
FBI and law enforcement. Ray
would say that the FBI follows
16:52
the law and is looking to
reauthorize a program that is
16:56
used successfully in the past
they're
16:58
also this thing. Yeah. Okay. But
just get a warrant first, they
17:01
would like a warrant first, and
they have to get a judge to sign
17:04
off. This isn't like they can
just go willy nilly tapping
17:06
everybody's phone.
17:07
John C Dvorak: They did it
before exactly what they do.
17:10
willy nilly.
17:11
Adam Curry: They don't care
whether they have 702
17:13
reauthorized or not come on Kim.
Yeah, I
17:15
John C Dvorak: agree with that.
They just do it anyway.
17:17
Adam Curry: You want to hear the
pixie girl the spook her her
17:21
report on CBS Catherine
herridge.
17:24
John C Dvorak: What does she
have to say? Oh, good
17:25
Unknown: evening, Nora. The
shadow is almost always elevated
17:28
during the holidays. Our
analysts expect heightened
17:31
rhetoric with heightened
17:32
Adam Curry: rhetoric. Yes, we're
hearing it right now. The
17:35
heightened rhetoric. We're
17:36
John C Dvorak: listening to it
as we
17:40
Unknown: expect heightened
rhetoric with terrorist groups
17:42
and their media outlets
17:43
latching on to the conflict with
the Israeli military during
17:48
download southern Gaza and
Hanukkah only days away.
17:52
Intelligence Report reviewed by
CBS News warns of increased
17:56
threats from foreign terrorist
groups and mirrors FBI director
17:59
Christopher Ray's testimony
today on Capitol Hill,
18:03
blinking red lights analogy
about non
18:07
Adam Curry: blinking rib of
every everyone had to have it.
18:10
You know, this is the heightened
rhetoric 911
18:13
Unknown: Would you say that
there's multiple blinking red
18:15
lights out there?
18:16
Adam Curry: And how weak is this
blinking red light nonsense. You
18:21
know, this just I see blinking
lights everywhere I turn
18:24
Unknown: in stark language, the
intelligence takes ISIS and Al
18:28
Qaeda will likely use the Middle
East conflict to increase calls
18:32
for violence in the US.
18:33
John C Dvorak: Just for one
second, we have to note that
18:37
they keep mentioning ISIS and Al
Qaeda to operations oppose
18:42
they've been shut down or
shuttered at least in the Middle
18:44
East. We have the Houthis now
and Iran that's supposed to be
18:49
who's doing all the damage not
ISIS. Why? Well as ISIS Where's
18:53
ISIS?
18:54
Adam Curry: There's no ISIS.
They're just doing this to get
18:56
702 reauthorized. They're full
of crap. The full of it, full of
19:02
it. The blinking lights are his
own Feds like Can we go now both
19:05
Can we do something both? Can we
we got a nut job both can we get
19:08
and can we get into dude don't
bother to be called but to stick
19:10
to the path to it.
19:11
Unknown: It's ISIS and Al Qaeda
will likely use the Middle East
19:15
conflict or
19:15
John C Dvorak: where you will
get carried away with that Viet.
19:17
Thank you. You could have ended
it very early. But no, no, no,
19:20
you kept going and going. That
was good.
19:22
Adam Curry: I couldn't help
myself. Sounds for
19:24
Unknown: violence in the US.
19:26
Adam Curry: What RSV Yes.
19:28
Unknown: Compared to prior
years, as new details emerge
19:31
about an alleged plot to attack
Vegas
19:33
Adam Curry: we had Oh, we had an
alleged plot we
19:35
Unknown: charged the suspect
with multiple felonies to
19:37
include terroristic threats.
Both
19:39
Adam Curry: we got him we got we
got a cool kid here but we got
19:42
we got we got to keep to do this
for both. We can flag
19:45
Unknown: we charged the suspect
with multiple felonies to
19:47
include terroristic threats.
authorities
19:49
arrested a 16 year old suspect
who allegedly wrote on social
19:53
media about launching a lone
wolf attack in support of ISIS.
19:56
A homemade flag and other
articles allegedly recovered.
20:00
Along came the flag off hearts
on Capitol Hill, a stark warning
20:04
from the FBI chief.
20:06
Adam Curry: I've never seen a
time where all the threats were
20:10
flagged from 15 year old or so
many of the threats are all
20:13
elevated elevated, at exactly
the same
20:17
Unknown: time with a spike in
threats since the war began. The
20:20
intelligence report warns
civilian casualties in Gaza,
20:24
whether real perceived or
falsified, or the increased
20:27
presence of US military forces
in direct support of Israel will
20:30
likely be exploited by terrorist
groups terrorist groups, we said
20:34
there's nothing to indicate
Hamas has the intent or
20:36
capability to conduct operations
inside the US. The bureau has
20:40
not discounted the possibility
Nora
20:42
worry about these lone wolves.
20:44
Adam Curry: Oh yeah.
20:44
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. We
20:46
Adam Curry: got seven year old
kid with a with a Twitter and a
20:48
flag. lone wolves. Yes.
20:51
John C Dvorak: Show they had a
shooting in Vegas. Yeah, they
20:53
did. UNLV by a guy who is a
professor
20:56
Adam Curry: I know who he
probably has gone nuts with
21:00
these kids that he has to teach.
21:03
John C Dvorak: And then we had
to the other one, too. First of
21:05
all, there was the guy in
Virginia who blew himself up in
21:08
his house. Yeah, and he was like
a left wing nut ball hated Trump
21:12
to you so we had to get that off
the front page. We did that
21:14
pretty easily.
21:15
Adam Curry: Did you see that
couch go fly him. No,
21:18
John C Dvorak: I but I saw the
explosion. It was unbelievable.
21:20
Adam Curry: If you if you if you
freeze frame the explosion
21:23
catches houses fly up fly. I
mean, that wasn't that. I think
21:28
he had explosives in the
basement or something. Certainly
21:31
went
21:31
John C Dvorak: off and you know,
man, a shooting a flare gun out
21:35
the window. That guy was off his
rocker
21:37
Adam Curry: and this is
Arlington, Virginia, this is
21:39
spooks and of all
21:40
John C Dvorak: places. All
planned. Then we saw we have the
21:43
Vegas thing but that's no good
because that guy was a
21:45
professor.
21:47
Adam Curry: So let's go there.
We
21:48
John C Dvorak: have the Austin
shootings.
21:51
Adam Curry: The Austin
shootings. Yes.
21:53
John C Dvorak: When I said
that's what I said when I was
21:56
just
21:56
Adam Curry: shooting every day
in Austin is nothing new. Well,
21:59
this is is
22:00
John C Dvorak: the NBC report on
the I have a clip. Oh, okay.
22:03
Okay. It's in clay show.
22:04
Unknown: We have information
coming from two different police
22:06
agencies that are involved the
bear County Sheriff's Department
22:09
and also the Austin Police. So
we have a timeline of what
22:13
happened. According to police.
It's all started yesterday
22:15
morning just before 11am When
they say the suspect shot and
22:20
Austin Independent School
District Police officer and then
22:24
about an hour after that police
say they received 911 calls at
22:27
an address in Austin. The
officers arrived at that address
22:31
and found a double homicide it
just sees male and female. Then
22:34
about five hours after that a
cyclist in a different part of
22:38
Austin reported being shot and
injured. Now two hours after
22:42
that officers received or a
police department received a
22:45
call from a different address to
which officers responded. That
22:49
was a burglary in place being
reported. The first officer that
22:53
responded at that second address
said he found a suspect in the
22:57
backyard and the suspect then
opened fire against that police
23:00
officer. The officer returned
fire but the suspect was able to
23:04
flee, get in a vehicle and drive
off. At that point. Officers
23:08
were able to chase him down. He
was in a car accident and then
23:12
they were able to apprehend that
suspect. The officer that was
23:14
shot was then taken to a
hospital while other officers
23:18
entered that home and found two
other people disease so a lot of
23:21
events taking place. Now after
this happened, the Austin Police
23:25
Department contacted the bear
sheriff's department saying they
23:28
had an address they wanted them
to check on that was linked to
23:30
the suspect deputies that went
to that address now that was
23:34
south of Austin in the San
Antonio area. That's why they
23:36
contacted the bear County
Sheriff's Department. And those
23:39
deputies then found two more
people to cease to be part of
23:42
that third address. So in total
it is six people dead all
23:46
connected to this suspect Kate,
23:48
Adam Curry: that sounds like a
gang thing.
23:51
John C Dvorak: Or yeah, it's
definitely something like that.
23:54
I know more details that I know
have not
23:56
Adam Curry: heard about that.
But you know, when when I first
24:00
moved to Austin, you'd hear
about one shooting maybe every
24:03
six months. Yeah, by the time we
left it was every day.
24:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Every local
government Yeah, defund the
24:11
Adam Curry: police good god
24:12
John C Dvorak: find the police
put in some DA is not going to
24:15
do anything. And
24:19
Adam Curry: you get so lady G
Lind Lindy Hop, Lindsey Graham
24:23
are in the news because of that
Christopher rea thing with the
24:26
red blinking lights but also,
just before that from the same,
24:31
the Senate session with with the
FBI director. This short clip
24:38
showed up which everyone went
Oh, no. Oh, what do you
24:42
Unknown: think their votes for
Israel apart from the package?
24:46
Republicans overwhelmingly
support Israel certain most
24:48
Democrats. Republicans are
divided on Ukraine. Republicans
24:52
are 100% behind strong border
security. If you want aid to
24:56
Ukraine, we need to control our
southern border. I will will not
25:00
vote for any aid until we secure
on border reform asylum reform.
25:05
Reform parole is possible to do.
Democrats don't want to do it
25:09
all Republicans want to do it.
I'm not helping you drain into
25:12
we have ourselves.
25:13
Adam Curry: That's literally the
only clip everybody had
25:15
everywhere on Twitter and every
black the hill. Oh, no, what's
25:19
happened? He's flip flopped. No.
No, he has not. This is a scam.
25:25
This is a scam to get $106
billion for the military
25:29
industrial complex. Here's what
went down. Here's two clips what
25:35
Lindsey Graham actually said.
And it's quite simple to see how
25:38
this is a a unit party scam to
get more money to the military
25:43
industrial complex. Thank
25:45
Unknown: you, Mr. Chairman.
Welcome, Inspector, Inspector,
25:48
Director,
25:49
Adam Curry: I had to leave that
he called Ray the inspector. So
25:53
Unknown: Mr. Chairman, one thing
that I will be talking about.
25:57
Among the list of threats is a
broken board. Mr. Chairman,
26:01
since President Biden has taken
office, we've had 6.6 main
26:06
encounters with illegal aliens
at the southern border. that's
26:12
larger than 33 states. And we're
on pace. The last seven days,
26:19
we've been averaging about 9500
a day, play that out, weigh that
26:25
out looking at 3.4 million this
year, at that rate, that poses
26:31
at 10 million, and that doesn't
count the getaways. So we're
26:35
negotiating how to help Ukraine,
count me in for helping Ukraine
26:40
a robust path to help our allies
in Ukraine. Ukraine makes sense
26:45
to me. Upping the ability of
Taiwan to defend itself.
26:50
Adam Curry: Makes sense to me or
mining Israel.
26:53
Unknown: All the sense in the
world, all good. Border Security
26:56
is the fourth plank of this
supplemental. We're wildly
27:01
apart.
27:02
Adam Curry: So they have a
negotiation. And they're going
27:05
to dress this up. They say you
heard what what he wants Taiwan
27:09
money, good. Ukraine money,
good. Pay for all money. Good.
27:14
But we have 610. I don't know
how many millions coming into
27:18
the border. So let's shut down a
tiny portion
27:21
Unknown: of that the
negotiations by Senator Lankford
27:24
and Murphy, I appreciate their
efforts. We made great progress,
27:28
I think on asylum. But the
Democratic party seems to be
27:32
unwilling to address that
27:34
Adam Curry: notice, we made
great progress on asylum. So
27:38
don't talk about asylum. That's
all done. That's all good. Let's
27:41
talk about what we're really
going to do to show the American
27:44
people we're fixing the border.
27:45
Unknown: The key problem for all
parole. This statute is pretty
27:50
clear. The Secretary of DHS has
the ability to parole an
27:54
individual is supposed to be an
individual based on a case by
27:59
case basis for urgent
humanitarian reasons, or
28:03
significant public benefit. My
orcas and people at DHS abused
28:10
that provision to give parole to
over 240,000 people from poor
28:16
countries alone, Cuba, Haiti,
Nicaragua, and Venezuela. It is
28:21
not meant to be used in that
fashion. Why are we at an
28:26
impasse? The Biden
administration refuses to follow
28:31
the law as written, refuses to
give up this concept of
28:35
humanitarian parole, because it
is their way of managing the
28:39
border.
28:41
Adam Curry: There you go. So
what he's really talking about
28:43
is 249,000 people out of 10
million. Don't worry, so he's
28:50
making it look like he's big
man. We know that Lindsey Graham
28:53
is bought and paid for by the
military industrial complex.
28:58
Look at his state. look at why
he always wins. It's so obvious.
29:05
Don't worry, we're gonna fight
for this parole thing. Yeah,
29:08
we'll cut it down. We'll cut it
down. I'm
29:10
John C Dvorak: Lindsey Graham.
50 To 50 10,250,000 attend any
29:15
literature
29:15
Adam Curry: we already got the
asylum thing worked out police
29:18
nothing's going to change this
way. Nothing except we're gonna
29:23
get the money for Israel on
Taiwan. Crane. Sounds good. 106
29:29
billion. Another 106 billion. I
wonder how the how the people in
29:34
Chicago are feeling about that
right now. Loving it. Did you
29:38
Did you follow? I had clip after
clip and then Chicago
29:42
John C Dvorak: thing is, is
great. Yeah, yeah.
29:45
Adam Curry: So so. So they the
Member It was the same company
29:49
that had the contracts. The
mayor already had the contracts
29:52
went around his city council. So
we got a contract with the
29:55
busing company. They'll be they
will build tents. So they start
29:59
building tents. So, in this for
2000 people, but that's what
30:02
they said would probably be more
in these fenced off Chicago
30:06
areas and then they do a ground
sample. Oh, there's cancer in
30:10
there. Keep building, keep keep
building. Just keep building
30:16
it's fine. Don't worry about it.
Yeah, well, that all came to a
30:19
head
30:19
Unknown: three Chicago aldermen,
frustrated with Mayor Brandon
30:22
Johnson's handling of the
migrant crisis with several of
30:25
his top officials gone. In this
letter, Alderman Anthony Bill
30:29
Anthony and Apollo Tonto and
Raymond Lopez asked the mayor to
30:32
demand the immediate resignation
of seven senior leaders,
30:36
including the Deputy Mayor for
migrant rights, and Johnson's
30:39
Deputy Chief of Staff. Alderman
Lopez says the tipping point was
30:43
Brighton Park big point, the
very notion that we have a team
30:47
of individuals who saw no
problem using a cancerous
30:50
brownfield to house 2000
Venezuelan migrants is
30:54
astonishing to me. It's
astounding and it's really
30:57
setting up not only this policy
directed by the mayor for
31:00
failure, but also setting up the
city for failure and future
31:03
litigation. Yesterday, Governor
Pritzker pulled the plug on the
31:06
Johnson administration's plan to
build a winterize migrant base
31:10
camp and right in park after
traces of toxic chemicals were
31:13
discovered at the site. Lopez
and his colleagues say they're
31:16
worried to other temporary
housing locations might also be
31:19
contaminated the
31:20
John C Dvorak: whole area of
chemicals Yeah, it's
31:23
Adam Curry: all it's I wonder if
the people
31:25
John C Dvorak: are these toxic
chemicals come from and why are
31:27
they worried that they're in the
first place? Well, we
31:31
Adam Curry: don't know but Pino,
31:32
John C Dvorak: they don't
discuss any Oh, no
31:34
Unknown: isn't locations. You
know, they're
31:36
John C Dvorak: trying to do the
right thing. They're putting up
31:37
a shanty town.
31:39
Adam Curry: They had the right
idea. Yeah. But it's now they're
31:42
all going to go into Hotel.
Well, they Yeah, there'll be
31:44
going to police station now.
They're going to go into hotels,
31:47
and other do airport. Yeah,
maybe
31:50
Unknown: it'll be contaminated.
How many more sites is the mayor
31:53
going to use? Is his team going
to use that are contaminated?
31:56
What do we know about 115 Can
Halston. What do we know about
31:59
the CVS and little village?
Nothing. A spokesperson for
32:03
Mayor Johnson dismissed the
letter saying this is not
32:06
serious correspondence. Yet the
individuals that attacks are
32:09
doing very serious work in
addressing the urgency of a
32:12
humanitarian crisis that has
brought nearly 25,000 new
32:16
arrivals to our city. This week
administration defended itself
32:20
noting that at the height of the
challenge 5000 migrants flooded
32:23
police stations and airports.
Today that number is roughly
32:26
600. As for Brighton Park, the
state is supposed to foot the
32:30
bill for construction work, but
the contractor might have to eat
32:33
the cost now that the site has
been found uninhabitable
32:37
meanwhile,
32:37
Adam Curry: it's 14 degrees in
Chicago. It's so obvious to see
32:42
this was coming. Close the
border for real people. Come on,
32:47
stop using the word
32:48
John C Dvorak: keep shipping
everyone to Chicago. Well 10
32:51
million people are
32:52
Adam Curry: going they're
choosing to go to Chicago it's
32:54
not just that 10 million. It's
not just Texas busing them off
32:58
there's a lot of people that
come in where do you want to go
33:00
Chicago? Because they got people
there?
33:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well the
more people are there it's like
33:06
it's like it kind of it builds
momentum again, but everyone got
33:10
wanting to go to Chicago because
that's where their friends are.
33:12
Yeah,
33:12
Adam Curry: I was talking to the
shoeshine guy at the
33:15
Indianapolis Airport. We were
having your shoe shine my boots
33:18
Yes. Oh, I love that. I love to
wearing your Texas
33:22
John C Dvorak: boots you not
wearing sneakers like every
33:24
other person in the world? No,
33:26
Adam Curry: I wear my boots
pretty much all the time.
33:30
John C Dvorak: Well, okay, so
what did the guy tell you?
33:33
Adam Curry: Well, he he wouldn't
he could come in from Liberia.
33:37
And he Liberian shoeshine guy
and he he owned beyond two
33:43
shoeshine stands in the airport.
His son was working the the
33:47
other terminal. He was in BS on
his MA. And he was telling me
33:51
same things, you know, how did
you wind up here said while like
33:54
everybody, you know, I had some
I had someone who was from
33:58
Liberia. I knew who was here and
they said hey, man, I got a good
34:01
gig for you come on over. It was
19 years ago, but still he says
34:05
you know that's how it works.
Where do you got a friend Where
34:07
do you have some some family
then? And if they got a thing
34:12
going on those go it's all for
work. It's all for work. He was
34:17
he was real happy to be here.
He's an American. Now of course.
34:20
He was very happy to be here.
And a great shot. I hope so. 15
34:24
box waking get a shoeshine for
15 bucks. That's very
34:30
inexpensive. I wouldn't know you
don't get you wear crocs.
34:37
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
crocs at all things.
34:38
Adam Curry: You wear Speedos
that look like crocs.
34:41
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
Speedos. I don't even know they
34:43
make shoes. What is the shoes?
You had that look like crocs? I
34:47
never had shoes that look like
Kroc. What were the shoes you
34:50
had that were like plastic. I've
never had a plastic shoe. Okay,
34:55
you're dreaming. I don't know
what kind of nightmares you have
34:59
at night. But that Guess you
want to see me walking around in
35:03
a plastic shoe? That has to be
something that
35:07
Adam Curry: made me it's because
I was listening to DH unplugged.
35:09
And you guys are always talking
about it. Oh, he's a crocs nut.
35:12
It's in my subconscious now.
35:16
John C Dvorak: The big crux
fanatic, the chroming he talks
35:20
crocs he invests in crocs. He
wears crocs as maybe he was
35:24
about crocs all the time. He
says he has a pair of crocs that
35:26
he's had for 30 years and
they've, they've never failed
35:29
them. And,
35:30
Adam Curry: you know, the story
behind crocs the success story,
35:34
no, no, when the movie,
Idiocracy was being shot, so
35:39
this is now what, 25 years ago,
maybe longer. They were looking
35:45
the production or the art
director or the production
35:47
manager was almost looking for
futuristic shoes. And the woman
35:52
came to the director, whatever,
you're famous guy, director, and
35:56
he said, I've got these
phenomenal shoes, they're going
35:59
to be great because no one will
ever wear these things. They're
36:02
so ugly, it'll look like it's
from that crazy future. And that
36:05
was crocs, and that was their
big. I've never heard that
36:09
story. Yeah, yeah, that was
their big break. Now, crocs,
36:14
crocs for the win. And now
Justin Bieber has crocs he has
36:17
crocs boots. Yeah, I
36:20
John C Dvorak: think he's
wearing crocodile boots.
36:21
Adam Curry: Now. He's got Croc
crocs. Sure. Yeah. Like Gucci
36:26
Croc has all kinds of stocks.
Crocs, crocs.
36:29
John C Dvorak: I want to play
the hearing with Stefanik.
36:34
Grilling the presidents of the
three universities.
36:37
Adam Curry: This was fantastic.
36:40
John C Dvorak: And Liz McGill's
Penn State apology tour later 24
36:46
hours? No, I
36:48
Adam Curry: didn't hear that. I
36:49
John C Dvorak: have that too.
Well, but go you go. So here we
36:52
go. This is the next hearing and
I set it up, set it up. I'm
36:56
gonna get them doing that as as
you're telling me to set it up.
37:00
I'm actually setting it up to
the house, which shouldn't be
37:04
the house on American Activities
Committee. DeVore
37:08
x.substack.com. Read about it.
It shouldn't be that but no, it
37:14
was a committee on on, on anti
semitism in the universities.
37:19
And they, and they've got the
president. It's all females.
37:23
Interestingly enough, the
president of Harvard, the
37:27
president of MIT and the
president of Penn State, and
37:30
they go through them one by one.
And Stefanik, who is a very
37:33
interesting new kind of a fiery
congresswoman from District 21
37:39
of New York, Republican. She's
going after him. And then she
37:44
catches a kind of a, an
interesting little theme where
37:49
they can't and they all kind of
answer the same way. Yeah, they
37:53
all say in context is that is
the key words. But she catches
37:56
the fact that none of them can
say yes, to a very simple
38:00
question that if any one of them
just said yeah, yes. And they'd
38:04
be passed over, I'd be fine. But
now all three of them are likely
38:07
to get fired. Especially the
Penn State woman who blew it the
38:11
most, or let's start. She's just
crazy. But let's you hear it
38:17
when you when you go through.
It's unfortunate. I feel I
38:19
apologize for the phonics,
popping her piece into the mic
38:23
constantly. But here we go,
38:25
Unknown: does em at MIT, does
calling for the genocide of Jews
38:29
violate MIT's code of conduct or
rules regarding bullying and
38:33
harassment? Yes, or no way
before?
38:35
Adam Curry: Before we get to
that? When it comes to the First
38:39
Amendment? I would say calling
for the genocide of anybody. Is
38:47
is that permissible? Or is that
not permissible?
38:51
John C Dvorak: is permissible by
the government, by Constitution
38:55
by the constant if you're
running a university University,
38:58
you can have your own rules or
regulations regarding what was
39:01
speech can be, you know about
stuff like that? I mean, you
39:06
there has to be a limit at some
point you can't say, and like
39:09
the right wing talk show, guys.
Also, what if it was about the
39:12
genocide of all black people?
Would they've reacted the same
39:16
TQ or allergy all gays? Yeah, it
would have been, but no, it was
39:21
Adam Curry: not. Second
question. If you said I call for
39:24
the killing of John C. Dvorak.
Is that permissible under the
39:27
First Amendment?
39:28
John C Dvorak: I think it's a
threat. Right? Okay. But a
39:31
jealousy guy could sue you or
something
39:33
Adam Curry: or you can be
arrested. But a genocide is not
39:36
the same threat.
39:38
John C Dvorak: genocides. It is
very It seems to me to be the
39:41
same genocide Do you want to
kill all people of this group?
39:44
So
39:45
Adam Curry: you should not be
able to say it by the First
39:47
Amendment?
39:49
John C Dvorak: You Yeah, I think
she This is where these guys got
39:52
into trouble. Yeah. They kept
thinking first amendment as
39:56
well. You could you should be
able to say anything you want
39:58
including it Think there's a
fire in the theater. And that's
40:03
the one thing you can't say I
this is not in the Constitution
40:06
that you can't. That's just a
kind of a generally accepted
40:10
rule. Yeah, there's a lot of
things that are just generally
40:13
accepted as you can't say these
things. And this is one of them.
40:16
And all you have to do is say
can you do as she asked the same
40:20
question you just say yes, you
just no good yeah, you're even
40:24
get carry with her. I think it's
deplorable, that anyone would
40:28
even think such a thing, let
alone say it. Done. Now, you
40:32
Adam Curry: could have said yes,
you can say it, but it's
40:33
horrible and deplorable. That's
what
40:35
John C Dvorak: that's what you
can do anything. You could do
40:37
anything. But what they did,
what they did was, well, I don't
40:41
know. Let's listen
40:43
Unknown: does em at MIT. Does
calling for the genocide of Jews
40:46
violate MIT's code of conduct or
own rules regarding bullying,
40:51
harassment, yes or no? If
targeted at individuals not
40:55
making public statements? Yes or
no? Calling for the genocide of
40:59
Jews does not constitute
bullying and harassment. I have
41:02
not heard calling for the
genocide for Jews on our campus.
41:05
But you've heard chants for
Intifada, I've heard chants,
41:08
which can be anti semitic
depending on the context when
41:11
calling for the elimination of
the Jewish people. So those
41:14
would not be according to the
MIT's code of conduct or rules
41:18
that would be investigated of as
harassment if pervasive and
41:22
severe.
41:23
Ms. McGill at Penn. Does calling
for the genocide of Jews violate
41:29
Penn's rules or code of conduct?
Yes or No.
41:32
If the speech turns into
conduct, it can be harassment.
41:36
Adam Curry: If the speech turns
into conduct. Why Why could they
41:41
not just answer the question?
What is going on? What were they
41:45
afraid?
41:45
John C Dvorak: Here's what I
have a theory. Okay. Because
41:48
they all say context, especially
the Harvard Woman Yeah, the
41:52
Harvard one was one of the worst
but this woman here just blew it
41:55
every which way. And I she has a
rebuttal. But I think the three
42:00
of them because they're all you
know, either. were the top
42:03
three. Ivy League's with Ivy
where they were the cat's meow.
42:10
So they got together. Oh,
42:12
Adam Curry: yeah, we're all
answering it the same way
42:14
because you know, screw these.
Screw this Republican. Yeah,
42:18
yeah.
42:19
John C Dvorak: They I'm sure
they agreed on because they
42:20
think this idea of what depends
on the context keeps cropping
42:25
up. And this one and this one,
though, is the worst of the
42:28
three in terms of her saying,
Well, unless they start genocide
42:32
thing is no big deal,
42:33
Adam Curry: unless they start
actually genocide. And it's
42:35
okay. Yes,
42:36
Unknown: I am asking,
specifically calling for the
42:39
genocide of Jews. does that
constitute bullying or
42:43
harassment? If
42:44
it is directed and severe or
pervasive? It is harassment. So
42:48
the answer is yes. It is a
context dependent decision.
42:52
Congresswoman,
42:52
it's a context dependent
decision. That's your testimony
42:55
today, calling for the genocide
of Jews is depending upon the
42:59
context, that is not bullying or
harassment. This is the easiest
43:03
question to answer. Yes, Miss
McGill. So is your testimony
43:07
that you will not answer yes. If
it
43:11
is if the if the speech becomes
conduct. It can be harassment,
43:16
yes, conduct meaning committing
the act of genocide. The speech
43:21
is not harassment. This is
unacceptable. Miss Miguel, I'm
43:24
gonna give you one more
opportunity for the world to see
43:28
your answer. No. And podcasts
calling for the genocide of Jews
43:32
violate pens, Code of Conduct
when it comes to bullying and
43:36
harassment? Yes or no?
43:38
It can be harassment?
43:40
The answer is yes.
43:42
Adam Curry: So clearly, they're
so afraid. Here's what I think.
43:47
They're so afraid to piss off
the protesting students that
43:50
they'll get lynched and lose
everything I that's what's going
43:54
on here, where
43:56
John C Dvorak: that element does
exist. But the thing that I know
44:00
they had to get together because
each of the three uses context,
44:04
it's all
44:05
Adam Curry: the same, of course,
but that's because over because
44:08
they have to have a front
because all of the children at
44:11
the schools are out there
protesting against genocide,
44:14
Joe,
44:16
John C Dvorak: both they have, I
don't think this to be I don't
44:19
know where they're coming from
in terms of their reality
44:22
checks. But it seems to me that
if they just said yes, they can
44:27
be done with it. No, and the
students would care. I don't
44:30
think his students even know
this was going on, let alone go
44:33
after him. No,
44:34
Adam Curry: of course not. But
these students don't know
44:36
anything, either. It's the
political factions that are
44:40
activating them. It's the
socialist groups that are
44:43
activating them. And that have
been that they've been taught
44:47
for decades, about colonialism.
This is this is this is the the
44:54
epitome of colonialism in their
minds. This is what's going on
44:59
that Deep before we continue,
the White House interns have
45:05
written a letter to the
president demanding a Middle
45:08
East ceasefire. The interns?
Yeah,
45:13
John C Dvorak: that's really
bad.
45:14
Adam Curry: I mean, to be to be
an intern in the White House is
45:18
a big deal. And they wrote, We
the undersigned fall 2023 White
45:26
House and executive office of
the president interns will no
45:29
longer remain silent on the
ongoing genocide of the
45:32
Palestinian people. We are
Palestinians Jewish, Arab,
45:37
Muslim, Christian, Black, Asian,
Latina, Latina, white and queer.
45:45
We need the voices of the
American people and call on the
45:48
administration to demand a
permanent ceasefire. We are not
45:50
the decision makers of today but
we aspire to be the leaders of
45:53
tomorrow. We will never forget
how the pleas of the American
45:58
people have been not have been
heard and thus far ignored. So
46:04
that's bad when your own interns
the unpaid help who are there to
46:11
get a good mark for now this was
a you were a good intern. Dude,
46:18
this is this is this. It's
beautiful to watch because the
46:21
whole thing is backfiring.
Everything.
46:25
John C Dvorak: It's hilarious, I
think
46:27
Adam Curry: is quite okay.
What's the third one? Is that
46:29
the
46:29
John C Dvorak: third one we go
into the NBA, we finally finish
46:32
it off with the Harvard woman
46:34
Unknown: and Dr. Gay at Harvard.
is calling for the genocide of
46:39
Jews violate Harvard's rules of
bullying and harassment? Yes or
46:43
no?
46:43
It can be depending on the
context. What's the context
46:47
targeted as an individual
targeted as at an individual?
46:51
It's targeted
46:52
at Jewish students, Jewish
individuals? Do you understand
46:56
your testimony is dehumanizing
them? No. Do you understand that
47:00
dehumanization is part of anti
semitism? I will ask you one
47:04
more time. Does calling for the
genocide of Jews violate
47:09
Harvard's rules of bullying and
harassment? Yes or no?
47:13
anti semitic rhetoric? When is
it anti semitic rhetoric, anti
47:17
semitic rhetoric when it crosses
into conduct conduct amounts to
47:20
bullying, harassment,
intimidation, just
47:25
Adam Curry: for for our
deconstruction when it crosses
47:28
into conduct that means that you
actually start genocide in Jews?
47:31
Is that what she means by that?
Yes, what
47:33
John C Dvorak: the Penn State
woman said and
47:35
Adam Curry: then when you when
you start genocide in Jews, then
47:38
it's harassment and bullying.
Got it? Got it. I gotta hear
47:42
that again. So when it crosses
into conduct ie making good on
47:47
your threats, then is bullying
pay you got to stop genocide in
47:51
the Jews bro.
47:52
Unknown: anti semitic rhetoric.
When is it anti semitic
47:55
rhetoric, anti semitic rhetoric
when it crosses into conduct
47:59
that amounts to bullying,
harassment, intimidation, that
48:04
is actionable conduct, and we do
take action.
48:07
So the answer is yes. That
calling for the genocide of Jews
48:12
violates Harvard code of
conduct, correct.
48:15
Again,
48:16
it depends on the context. It
does not depend on the context.
48:19
The answer is yes. And this is
why you should resign. These are
48:23
unacceptable answers across the
board.
48:27
Adam Curry: Oh, that was almost
as good as John Kerry's fart
48:30
video, whichever
48:30
John C Dvorak: one was. That's
going around.
48:35
Adam Curry: Carry far too. Good
goodness. So
48:38
John C Dvorak: let's go. The
last clip in this series is Liz
48:40
McGill. Yes. And she the other
two women didn't do this. They
48:44
sent out press releases saying
well I think was misunderstood.
48:49
But Liz McGill goes on, on on
social media and apologizes like
48:56
an idiot. And I it's just like
it makes no sense. You had your
49:00
chance to say yes, but no, you
do this instead. There
49:05
Unknown: was a moment during
yesterday's congressional
49:07
hearing on anti semitism. When I
was shooting
49:09
Adam Curry: her office on a
webcam like thing. Is that what
49:12
she's doing here? Yep. Just
49:13
Unknown: asked if a call for the
genocide of Jews che wastop.
49:18
John C Dvorak: I think what they
should do if you get to do this
49:20
be in your car.
49:25
Adam Curry: We just keep it with
a seatbelt on a driving as even
49:28
funnier. Even
49:29
Unknown: better the drive during
yesterday's congressional
49:32
hearing on anti semitism when I
was asked if a call for the
49:36
genocide of Jewish people on our
campus would violate our
49:41
policies. In that moment, I was
focused on our university's long
49:46
standing policies aligned with
the US Constitution, which say
49:50
that speech alone is not
punishable. I was not focused on
49:55
but I should have been the
irrefutable fact that a call for
49:59
genocide have Jewish people is a
call for some of the most
50:02
terrible violence, human beings
can perpetrate? It's evil, plain
50:09
and simple. I want to be clear,
a call for genocide of Jewish
50:15
people is threatening deeply. So
it is intentionally meant to
50:20
terrify people who have been
subjected to pogroms and hatred
50:25
for centuries. And were the
victims of mass genocide in the
50:30
Holocaust. In my view, it would
be harassment or intimidation
50:36
for decades under multiple pen
presidents and consistent with
50:40
most universities, and readings
50:42
John C Dvorak: by the way, guys,
yeah, she's
50:43
Adam Curry: totally reading it.
Yeah, he's reading this. Hill
50:46
and Knowlton had to get called
in for this one. Like writes up
50:49
mop man, I'm in trouble.
50:52
Unknown: For decades under
multiple pen presidents and
50:54
consistent with most
universities, Penn's policies
50:58
have been guided by the
Constitution and the law. In
51:01
today's world, where we are
seeing signs of hate
51:04
proliferating across our campus
and our world, in a way not seen
51:07
in years, these policies need to
be clarified and evaluated on
51:13
their use. Penn must initiate a
serious and careful look at our
51:16
policies. Okay. Plus Jackson and
I will immediately convene a
51:20
process to do so. As President
I'm committed to a safe, secure
51:26
and supportive environment. So
all members of our community can
51:31
thrive. We can and we will get
this right. Thank you. Alright,
51:36
Adam Curry: so here's how it
went down. Liz, this is
51:41
Rosenberg. I got a problem with
my donation this year. Come on.
51:48
It's so phony. All phonies, the
whole thing. Yeah, I love it. I
51:54
love it. It's so cool to see all
of this backfiring every single
51:58
bit is just backfiring. I do
have an NBC report. Let's see
52:03
how NBC reported on the so you
had the actual clips. This is
52:07
the report
52:08
Unknown: on Capitol Hill, the
presidents of three top schools
52:10
MIT UPenn and Harvard grilled
over a spike in anti semitism on
52:15
their campuses. Your university
is a hotbed of it hot at the
52:19
center of the hearing tension
over how to protect both student
52:22
safety and free speech while
combating anti semitism and
52:27
Islamophobia. disagreements
52:28
about the conflict in the Middle
East should never escalate to
52:32
threats of violence
52:33
coverage President was asked
about pro Palestinian
52:36
demonstrators calling for
Intifada on her campus
52:40
can you not see a code of
conduct at Harvard,
52:43
we embrace a commitment to free
expression even a views that are
52:48
objectionable, offensive,
hateful. It's when that speech
52:54
crosses into conduct that
violates our policies.
52:57
In recent weeks, a number of
Jewish students had told NBC
53:00
News they worry for their safety
53:02
why today a Jewish student is
afraid to walk to the library at
53:06
night. Congressman, let me start
by saying I'm I'm devastated to
53:09
hear that and the safety and
security of our campus and our
53:14
students in particular as my top
concern or three
53:17
presidents are facing criticism
for their response to hate
53:20
rhetoric on campus. Each walked
through new plans to combat anti
53:24
semitism. staff here at UPenn
say they've received anti
53:27
semitic emails and hateful
slogans were projected on
53:31
buildings now there's additional
security at religious centers
53:34
and a new anti semitism task
force.
53:36
Adam Curry: Now notice what word
was the what word was not used
53:40
in that report? The word
genocide they didn't put any of
53:44
the actual hearing into that
report. They really carefully
53:48
left it out they put all that
there was a big meeting about
53:51
that piece. Oh, no, we can't
have that hard when you
53:55
John C Dvorak: can't Okay. This
this is NBC big supporters of
53:59
Biden you can use the word
genocide because people will
54:02
make it because you were still
in good trying to get rid of
54:05
this genocide Joe meme. Yep,
yep. So it was not your this is
54:09
your media at work covering for
the president phony phony
54:13
baloney, it's unbelievably bad.
So
54:16
Adam Curry: while we're on these
children at schools, let's bring
54:20
in some transgenderism, some
trans Maoist movement that's
54:24
going on because things are
starting to become clearer and I
54:28
am so happy for Cheryl Atkinson.
She still has got the I think
54:34
she has the career that Lauren
Logan should have the oh she's
54:38
doing her own thing. She's agree
54:41
John C Dvorak: with that. I
actually agree with that. Cheryl
54:44
has done a fabulous job of she
went over to Sinclair and gotta
54:48
look. It's not the gig that she
had by any means. Not even
54:51
close. But she still gets to put
out what you're good material.
54:55
Adam Curry: She puts out good
material. I think she's making a
54:58
little bit of money supplies
like pod Cash level, you know,
55:01
but that's okay. I think her
husband works. It's all fine.
55:05
And she's,
55:06
John C Dvorak: you know, she
might even be making as much as
55:08
she was a correspondent at CBS.
That's not the big bucks. She
55:12
wasn't like an anchor or anybody
who makes a lot of money. No,
55:16
Adam Curry: but but she kept her
integrity, integrity. She kept
55:19
her integrity. She still has the
same kind of look. You know,
55:24
she's got that news. You know,
like investigative reporter
55:27
look, with the hair tied back
all good stuff. The Look, she's
55:31
got the look. And even though
the editing is not superduper, I
55:36
thought that this was an it's
when you hear it will go out?
55:40
Well, of course, this is no
surprise. But she had the right
55:43
people. She had the right
information went to the exactly
55:48
the right depth. And this was
about the transgender lobby, and
55:53
it explains exactly where
everything is coming from.
55:57
Unknown: We began with an
investigation into the forces
55:59
working to shape our information
landscape when it comes to
56:03
transgender policies. When an
issue goes from zero to 60,
56:07
practically overnight, grabbing
headlines, political real estate
56:10
and funding priorities. You can
bet there's an invisible hand in
56:14
play. Today, some of the
surprising interests we found
56:17
behind the well funded
transgender lobby.
56:21
Adam Curry: All right, so she
had my attention from the get
56:24
go. And surprise, surprise, this
is not a grassroots movement as
56:29
everyone have you believe it's
top down people
56:32
Unknown: who think that this is
a grassroots movement that is
56:36
giving rise to the transgender
culture in the United States,
56:40
this transgender moment that
people say that we're having, do
56:44
you not understand that this is
more of a top down? dynamic that
56:48
is at play where you have really
just a handful of organizations
56:52
and LGBT advocacy organizations
that are driving the agenda, but
56:56
because they have such sway and
such money, they're influencing
56:59
everything from schools, to
politicians to corporate
57:02
America.
57:03
Adam Curry: All right. So
there's three groups that that
57:08
this and this guy wrote a whole
bunch that a lot of research on
57:11
this. What do you think is the
number one money influencer as
57:14
to this top down movement?
57:16
John C Dvorak: Well, I know one
of them is Pritzker. That's
57:19
Adam Curry: that comes into
number two position. Who Soros
57:23
No no, no. Think much bigger.
Who controls the media?
57:30
John C Dvorak: Disney.
57:32
Adam Curry: Who controls the
media? Who controls
57:36
John C Dvorak: the media Pharma?
Oh, Pharma.
57:40
Unknown: The name of the report
that I wrote about this for the
57:42
American principles project is
called the transgender
57:44
Leviathan. I chose that name on
purpose for life and this
57:47
biblical monster that's just
enormous. You can only ever
57:50
catch glimpses of the full size
of it. Right.
57:52
So tell me what you've learned
about the big forces behind the
57:56
funding? Yeah.
57:58
So I think you can you can
broadly, name three, which is
58:05
pharmaceutical companies,
liberal billionaires. And
58:09
ultimately, I think, to a
growing extent the taxpayer.
58:13
When it comes to taxpayers,
Gonzales points to studies the
58:16
government funds, like one
promoting breast removal or
58:20
mastectomy is for young girls as
part of a process to transition.
58:25
But
58:25
I think the for larger and more
pernicious problem is the
58:30
problem of the pharmaceutical
companies are behind this stuff.
58:33
And there's so much.
58:36
One example is Lupron the drug
most commonly used for
58:39
suppressing puberty. It's a
first step under one model of
58:43
treating children who wished to
be the opposite sex.
58:47
It's not FDA approved for use in
transition therapy, right. It's
58:50
used to castrate the basically
the most dangerous kinds of sex
58:54
offenders who just can't help
themselves and are most likely
58:57
to reoffending. So they give
them Lupron to basically,
59:00
chemically castrate them. And
now we're giving it to kids to
59:03
suppress the process of them
going into puberty.
59:08
To injections reportedly costing
as much as $73,000 Lutron Drew
59:13
$2 billion worth of business
last year for drugmaker advi.
59:18
The
59:19
Biden administration cited a
study produced by a group called
59:22
The Trevor Project. And Trevor
Project is an LGBT advocacy
59:26
nonprofit. And basically, the
Biden administration said like
59:30
this, this study from this
nonpartisan nonprofit says that
59:34
it's important for children to
be able to have access to gender
59:37
affirming care, right. When you
look at the funding of the
59:41
Trevor Project, what you'll see
is that they actually received
59:46
$50,000 from Abby Foundation,
the company that manufactures
59:49
Blue
59:50
Adam Curry: Cross, the I love
it. The Trevor Project is Elton
59:54
John's in that and this is
that's huge. So we know how the
59:59
farm Mystikal companies at least
control what the media does or
1:00:04
does not say. So that will be
kept away from the news or the
1:00:08
media at all times. But now that
was not so surprising to me. As
1:00:13
this next part, which explains
so much,
1:00:17
Unknown: we found an even bigger
medical money interests
1:00:20
surrounding the trans movement.
It involves a little publicized
1:00:24
but sad reality, the transgender
HIV epidemic in seven major US
1:00:30
cities, more than 40% of
transgenders are infected with
1:00:34
HIV, the virus that causes AIDS,
the rate is even higher among
1:00:38
transgender blacks, most of them
62% are HIV positive, according
1:00:44
to the CDC survey. That adds up
to a lucrative market for
1:00:49
businesses like Gilead Sciences,
a pharmaceutical company that
1:00:53
developed 11 HIV medications now
on the market, earning over $1.5
1:00:59
billion a month month. And
Gilead happens to be the single
1:01:05
biggest known funder of the
trans agenda within $6 million
1:01:09
in 2017, and 2018. Gilead says
its goal is to support
1:01:14
communities that are
disproportionately impacted by
1:01:17
diseases aligned with our
therapeutic areas of focus. But
1:01:20
wait, there's more. The number
two funder of trans causes at
1:01:25
4.8 million over two years is
Arcus foundation. Argus is a
1:01:30
nonprofit associated with
billionaire John Stryker, heir
1:01:34
to the Stryker Corporation,
medical technology company
1:01:37
fortune and a driver of gender
identity, ideology and
1:01:41
transgenderism across the globe.
Third, $4.6 million is to Wani
1:01:48
Foundation, associated with a
billionaire Pritzker Family, and
1:01:52
James Now Jennifer Pritzker of
the Hyatt Hotels fortune to one
1:01:57
he has large medical investments
and funds causes that normalized
1:02:02
transgenderism and a broad
spectrum of identities. And
1:02:06
number four among top donors to
trans interest is Gill
1:02:10
foundation at $3.1 million
associated with American
1:02:14
software magnate and gay
activist Tim Gill, is the single
1:02:18
largest known donor to gay
causes and a half billion
1:02:22
dollars total. So
1:02:23
Adam Curry: the way I read this
report or hear this report, is
1:02:26
we need more transgender folk to
get HIV to sell our medications
1:02:31
to if they're all in it, and
they all have these these
1:02:36
companies that sell crap.
1:02:40
John C Dvorak: The marketing
taken to the extreme Oh, and
1:02:44
then just marketing without
conscience,
1:02:46
Adam Curry: who I mean, so pay
I'll become a check. My name is
1:02:50
Pritzker. I'm Jen. Good to go.
People are disturbed, and Cheryl
1:02:59
Durbin and rich. Well, that goes
hand in hand sometimes, Cheryl
1:03:03
Atkinson will now wrap it up
because of course this money
1:03:06
buys you everything you want,
including education and
1:03:10
Unknown: money from a handful of
sources, seeds 1000s of groups
1:03:14
reaching into policies and
practices in government and
1:03:17
education, and corporations,
universities, doctors,
1:03:21
associations, hospitals,
insurance companies, media
1:03:24
outlets, journalism groups, and
more. Top recipients of the
1:03:29
trans targeted money include the
University of Minnesota, home to
1:03:33
Gender and Sexuality Center for
queer and trans life. Another
1:03:37
top beneficiary is Annenberg
Center for Health Sciences at
1:03:41
Eisenhower. It sponsors programs
like this one for health care
1:03:45
professionals.
1:03:46
Hello, and welcome to
1:03:48
the Elevate webinars series on
creating a gender affirming
1:03:51
healthcare environment for
optimal HIV care. Funding for
1:03:55
transgender causes continues to
hit new highs each year, by one
1:04:00
analysis, the top 10 foundations
that give the most made up 55%
1:04:05
of the funding. In the end, the
explosion and transgender
1:04:09
influence of society and
politics can largely be traced
1:04:13
to a handful of powerful
interests.
1:04:15
Adam Curry: There you go. And of
course, stopping advertising of
1:04:20
pharmaceutical products directly
to consumers on television would
1:04:23
help a lot of this.
1:04:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, help
prevent it. And by the way, this
1:04:27
is the kind of report that you
would have seen on the show 60
1:04:30
minutes about 15 or 20 years ago
1:04:32
Adam Curry: longer. I don't even
think to do that now.
1:04:35
John C Dvorak: 60 No, they
1:04:36
Adam Curry: don't do it. Now.
You know what 60 minutes is
1:04:38
doing now they're doing native
ads for IBM for their quads.
1:04:42
Computer shows.
1:04:43
John C Dvorak: The show is
unwatchable. Yeah.
1:04:46
Adam Curry: Yeah, the quantum
computer or IBM is that we don't
1:04:50
have we don't have an AI play.
So we got to do quantum. But
1:04:55
this is their watch, but this is
right. This is a horrible,
1:05:01
horrible they don't care about
the children. They've completely
1:05:04
captured parents who are dumb
now it's called Trans housing by
1:05:12
proxy. Who are narcissistic
Cluster B personality disorder?
1:05:19
Who were who and I say that with
love and understanding because
1:05:23
they were traumatized Munchausen
this is now an accepted term
1:05:29
trans housing by bipolar trans
housing. Yes, it went from
1:05:34
Munchausen by proxy to trans
housing by proxy. It is
1:05:37
apparently an accepted term in
the hate is the epic times the
1:05:43
epoch, Epoch Times. Parents
personality disorders driving
1:05:47
surge in trans kids. The it's
true, it's I mean, of course,
1:05:54
there are people with gender
dysphoria there have always been
1:05:56
people with gender dysphoria.
But this move to 30% of kids
1:06:00
saying, Oh yeah, I'm non binary
I'm in February Jamie Reid,
1:06:06
former case manager at the
Washington University for
1:06:08
transgender Center at St. Louis
Children's Hospital, exposed
1:06:11
practice at the clinic and
describe parents who were
1:06:13
adamant about transitioning
their children. Her revelations
1:06:16
became the catalyst for Missouri
lawmakers to draft a law barring
1:06:19
hormone therapy. And this is
where they coined the phrase
1:06:23
trans hate. Yes, Trent, trans
housing by proxy. But it's
1:06:28
narcissism by many of these.
It's the same thing as was, you
1:06:33
know, you get some Hollywood
celebrities to start to kick off
1:06:36
the GPL. One mania, the ozempic
You know, and then everyone
1:06:49
follows it's, it's the
advertising is the problem.
1:06:53
That's the biggest problem. We
could stop so much by just
1:06:58
stopping that. And while we're
on it,
1:07:03
John C Dvorak: well, that was
depressing. Well,
1:07:07
Adam Curry: I'll lift your
spirits with some crazy stuff
1:07:09
here. They there is such a push
to get these semaglutide drugs
1:07:17
into the Medicare package and
forced forced insurance that
1:07:26
they are just dead just rolling
out everything they can. It
1:07:30
helps you lose weight. But wait,
let's bring on George
1:07:33
Stephanopoulos. This is Good
Morning America. And these are
1:07:40
people who take themselves very
seriously. Listen to the crap
1:07:43
they are doing
1:07:44
Unknown: that a new research on
ozempic and alcohol. It finds
1:07:47
that the weight loss drug may
also help prevent alcohol
1:07:49
overuse and abuse Dr. Jenn
Ashman is standing by first to
1:07:52
Russia has the details.
1:07:54
Adam Curry: No, I'm alcoholic
abuse. It helps what
1:07:58
Unknown: I have noticed
everything drink wine anymore.
1:08:00
And it's it's That's crazy to
me, because I couldn't stop
1:08:04
before
1:08:05
this morning the wildly popular
drug use for weight loss
1:08:08
semaglutide is now showing very
early signs of potentially
1:08:12
curbing alcohol use for those
who drink excessively a new case
1:08:16
study composed of
1:08:18
Adam Curry: the we used to call
those drunks or alcoholics now
1:08:20
it is alcohol use disorder.
1:08:24
Unknown: For those who drink
excessively, a new case study
1:08:27
composed of six people's Whoa,
six gay people, people reading
1:08:32
positive for alcohol use
disorder or AUD found that they
1:08:36
all saw a clinically significant
decrease in symptoms while they
1:08:40
were using semaglutide for
weight loss. Christy Martin who
1:08:44
was not part of the study says
whilst he used to drink wine
1:08:47
every night, her urge to drink
has disappeared. Drinking
1:08:51
for me was becoming a bit of an
issue. I
1:08:55
Adam Curry: can't believe this
is on television. I was I was a
1:08:58
drunk I was a wash. But then I
took the ozempic
1:09:02
Unknown: and the fact that I
just have no desire for it is
1:09:06
something I didn't expect and is
just an amazing side benefit. I
1:09:10
can't even tell you how amazing
1:09:11
this small case study now
setting the stage for larger
1:09:14
clinical trials. Looking at
semaglutide as a treatment for
1:09:17
AUD as researchers explored
whether the drug has the
1:09:21
potential to treat other
excessive use conditions. And
1:09:26
again, this initial study only
included six patients but as you
1:09:29
heard more thorough studies are
already underway. It could be
1:09:33
years before we know the true
results. Does it matter? No.
1:09:36
Okay, well, thanks for Oh,
thanks.
1:09:38
Adam Curry: I'm gonna tell you
let's put this bet that report
1:09:42
was discussed and it's not over.
It's not over. I'm going to put
1:09:46
in the red book right now. That
there will be a study that was
1:09:51
six people is the norm these
days there will be a study that
1:09:54
shows that ozempic is great for
erectile dysfunction, I
1:09:59
guarantee it this is the only
thing they're missing. Is this
1:10:03
the only thing? You know I was
kind of you know flaccid but now
1:10:06
man, I'm not only my trim but
look at look at it. Dr. Janice
1:10:10
Unknown: here. You know a lot
about these drugs you're board
1:10:12
certified in obesity medicine
What is this study board
1:10:14
Adam Curry: certified in obesity
medicine? Okay,
1:10:17
John C Dvorak: tell us. What's
1:10:18
Unknown: interesting about this
is astute doctors for years who
1:10:21
have been managing patients on
the GLP. One agonists. That's
1:10:25
the semaglutide class for weight
loss and treating obesity, have
1:10:29
started to hear anecdotal
reports of this, this small case
1:10:32
study of these six patients was
really one of the first times
1:10:36
that reported in the literature,
their their experience with
1:10:41
their cravings for alcohol use
their subjective experience with
1:10:45
that really powerfully
documented theories, our
1:10:48
Adam Curry: subjective
experience with that this is
1:10:51
this is a native ad of the most
lowest form, the lowest form,
1:10:56
and it's minutes and minutes of
this stuff,
1:11:00
Unknown: their subjective
experience with that really
1:11:02
powerfully documented theories
are that works in the brain in
1:11:06
the reward center. But this can
be a major indication, I have to
1:11:10
say, you know, we
1:11:11
know a lot of people who are
taking drugs, and they report
1:11:14
the same thing. You know, a
1:11:15
Adam Curry: lot of people who
are drunks here at ABC is
1:11:17
reporting the same thing. So
1:11:19
Unknown: literally, they do.
Yeah, but what are
1:11:20
their treatment options are
available for substance abuse
1:11:23
disorders, well, this is
1:11:24
one of those bright spots is
that it sheds light on what
1:11:27
treatments are already existing
and how they're not being used.
1:11:31
Three FDA
1:11:32
Adam Curry: approved event, an
extra bonus, they're promoting
1:11:34
some other drugs,
1:11:35
Unknown: medications. For people
with alcohol use disorder, they
1:11:39
are vastly under prescribed
behavioral interventions. And
1:11:42
then tech based or app based
therapies,
1:11:45
Adam Curry: tech based or app
based therapies,
1:11:49
Unknown: based, obviously,
increasing in popularity and
1:11:53
research, but they have a role
as well. But all of these
1:11:56
things, this isn't about just,
you know, potentially choosing
1:11:59
one, it's about if you have an
alcohol use disorder or
1:12:01
substance use disorder, filling
the boat and getting as much
1:12:05
treatment it
1:12:05
Adam Curry: was, it was
substance abuse. But now that
1:12:09
they have this new term, I don't
know, saying this substance use
1:12:13
disorder, alcohol use disorder,
not abuse, use. So you're not
1:12:18
quite a drunk, but you're kind
of on the way.
1:12:21
Unknown: And as you can make a
big change in your life, as we
1:12:24
were just discussing. I mean, it
really seems like a miracle
1:12:27
drug. Why do you think that
there seems to be a stigma
1:12:29
against the use of social
backgrounds, lash Lindsey is
1:12:32
huge, whether it's for weight
management or mental illness,
1:12:35
and that really can't that it's
just wrong, you know, if you had
1:12:38
high blood pressure, you would
treat it. There's a role for
1:12:41
these. For every one, it's not
one size fits all, but you have
1:12:44
to factor in the risk of not
taking a medication like this,
1:12:48
versus the benefits of treating
your risk of not taking it
1:12:51
Adam Curry: isn't this great?
Wow, you can't afford the risk
1:12:55
of not taking this this
medication, it could it's so
1:12:57
benefit. It is a Hamas support
disorder, it will, it will cure
1:13:02
everything
1:13:02
Unknown: Crusher, you would
treat it. There's a role for
1:13:05
these. It's not for everyone.
It's not one size fits all, but
1:13:08
you have to factor in the risk
of not taking a medication like
1:13:11
this, versus the benefits of
treating it when you weigh those
1:13:14
options. Seems like so helpful.
risks
1:13:17
John C Dvorak: of not taking it
versus the benefits are
1:13:20
unbelievable way of putting it
and by the way, I think you get
1:13:23
paid. It's almost like I'm
reminded of the old was that
1:13:27
show where they would get into
fights on the stage all the
1:13:29
time, Springer show Jerry
Springer show where they have a
1:13:33
this was revealed by someone
who's on the show that you got a
1:13:36
sheet that if you did this, you
got paid so much you did that
1:13:40
you got paid so much bonus. And
so you picked through a shoe,
1:13:45
you get 500 bucks, something
like that. Yeah. There is
1:13:49
obviously a bonus clause in here
for saying for somebody say if
1:13:53
somebody says it's a miracle
miracle
1:13:55
Adam Curry: drug,
1:13:56
John C Dvorak: there's 500
bucks.
1:13:57
Adam Curry: I think this is more
than that. I mean, the doctor
1:14:02
Jen,
1:14:05
John C Dvorak: to the obesity
expert, board
1:14:07
Adam Curry: certified, Dr.
Janice saying you really I mean,
1:14:11
you'd have to, you'd have to
weigh the risk of not taking
1:14:14
this
1:14:16
John C Dvorak: versus she should
be just barred for at this
1:14:19
point. You can't disappoint
anybody. But she should be
1:14:22
something should be done about
someone who's who puts it in
1:14:25
that way. In other words, it's
risky not to take it. It's
1:14:29
beneficial to take it but what
1:14:31
Adam Curry: you're saying here
is that this obesity, and this
1:14:33
is the bottom line, John,
everybody knows obesity. It's a
1:14:36
disease. It's not because you
eat. It's a use disorder, a food
1:14:41
use disorder. You see this is
where this is going treated.
1:14:44
Unknown: There's a role for
these. It's not for everyone,
1:14:46
it's not one size fits all but
you have to factor in the risk
1:14:49
of not taking a medication like
this, versus the benefits of
1:14:53
treating it when you weigh those
options. Seems like so helpful.
1:14:56
Diabetes, weight loss, alcohol,
you
1:14:58
name it origin. Thank you. So
much. That's
1:15:01
Adam Curry: awesome everything.
Now, there is of course, you
1:15:05
know, a closing to this eight
minute story. We
1:15:09
Unknown: are back now with a
question from our viewers and
1:15:11
Dr. Jenn is here to answer it.
Of course, the question is, I'm
1:15:14
using off of ozempic. And I'm
worried about the weight coming
1:15:17
back. Any suggestions for this?
So first
1:15:19
of all, it depends on each
individual, of course. But yes,
1:15:23
people should expect that some
amount of weight loss on these
1:15:27
GLP one agonists will come back.
Oh, because that is the chronic
1:15:32
condition of overweight and
obesity. It's not like treating
1:15:35
strep throat where once you're
done, you're done away, how much
1:15:39
we'll come back is an unknown.
But what is happening in the
1:15:43
real world is that a lot of
doctors who have patients on
1:15:47
these kinds of medications like
ozempic, we go the Manjaro are
1:15:51
are kind of putting them on a
maintenance plan as
1:15:54
Adam Curry: a maintenance plan.
This is a great drug, we need
1:15:59
this in Medicare a maintenance
plan. You're on it for ever,
1:16:03
Unknown: in terms of long term.
So what could that look like
1:16:06
potentially, and again, it will
be different for every person,
1:16:08
it might mean instead of taking
a shot or an injection every
1:16:12
week, maybe you're taking it
every two weeks or every 10
1:16:15
days, it might be going down on
a dose it might be alternating
1:16:19
weeks, one week on one week off.
1:16:21
Adam Curry: This sounds a lot
like the Sacklers with the with
1:16:24
the opioids or just change your
dose, don't worry point
1:16:27
Unknown: is that you have to
remember the condition of
1:16:30
overweight and obesity are
chronic conditions.
1:16:34
Adam Curry: It's chronic
condition, you can't help it
1:16:36
it's chronic, it's a disease,
that's that's all that there's
1:16:40
there for you need a maintenance
program, you need to keep taking
1:16:43
it because otherwise that weight
is going to come back or
1:16:44
Unknown: not as simple as
treating an infection for a
1:16:47
short period of time, and then
you're done with it. So long
1:16:50
term management is going to be a
big part of it. And we still
1:16:53
don't know what that will look
like there is
1:16:54
a weight management component to
this where the donor can kind of
1:16:57
decide to lower the dosage to
make sure you're consistent and
1:17:00
you're not losing more weight
than you want.
1:17:02
Absolutely, just like we do
managing patients on other types
1:17:05
of medications. It's not always
the official way that the drug
1:17:09
is designed. But this is what
doctors and health care
1:17:12
providers do to help their
patients manage a chronic
1:17:15
condition. So we should be
hearing more about that because
1:17:18
they're going to be a lot of
people who are going to be
1:17:20
managed on these medications. Oh
1:17:22
Adam Curry: my god, this is so
horrible. But you know, this is
1:17:30
this is who we are, this is who
we are as Americans. I'm almost
1:17:39
speechless of hearing. Hearing
this. And then okay, then last
1:17:43
one, I'll stop. This is not
about to ozempic this is well,
1:17:50
actually, I should I should do
this one. This is this is the
1:17:53
Wall Street Journal, Wall Street
Journal report, which has a
1:17:56
podcast in the morning. And they
they now so I'm gonna play this,
1:18:03
this clear native ad about
ozempic and new term will be
1:18:08
introduced to and then listen
for the story that comes right
1:18:12
after this one
1:18:13
Unknown: as demand for weight
loss drugs like ozempic and
1:18:15
we'll go V continues to surge
food companies are looking for
1:18:18
ways to cash in like by pitching
companion products or even
1:18:22
natural alternative companion
1:18:24
Adam Curry: products. We should
do a podcast that companion
1:18:27
product for for your ozempic
weight loss will be motivated
1:18:32
just
1:18:32
John C Dvorak: be food.
1:18:34
Unknown: Joining me to discuss
is reporter Jesse Newman pay
1:18:37
Jessie pay their HSA there, of
course, food companies are
1:18:40
looking to see whether and how
these drugs will reshape
1:18:43
American diets, how are they
responding?
1:18:46
big food companies
1:18:47
like everyone else have
certainly noticed how popular
1:18:50
these drugs that were designed
to treat diabetes and obesity
1:18:53
have become. And they've really
been watching us these drugs
1:18:58
just have gotten incredibly
popular spread to millions of
1:19:01
consumers throughout the US. And
there's some concern that that
1:19:06
could sort of take a bite out of
demand for the products that
1:19:09
these companies make, oh, we
better get some food. And so
1:19:14
what we're seeing is it's very
early days, but we are seeing
1:19:17
some companies that are trying
to step in and develop some
1:19:21
companion products to proffer to
patients on these drugs.
1:19:25
So what are some of their
solutions?
1:19:27
We're seeing companies like
Nestle and Abbott and they are
1:19:31
coming up with what they're
calling companion products. And
1:19:33
these are products that the
patients who are taking diabetes
1:19:37
and weight loss drugs could also
consume if for example, they're
1:19:43
losing muscle mass. There's a
startup out in California. If
1:19:48
Adam Curry: you're losing muscle
mass, which is the main thing
1:19:50
these products remove, okay, if
you find that you're that you
1:19:54
have ozempic Ask because you
lose it because of muscle mass
1:19:57
loss. We got some chocolate for
you and the startup is doing
1:20:00
Unknown: super gut and there
were like mixes and shakes and
1:20:04
bars out of ours Hi Terry
prebiotic fiber blend that they
1:20:08
call nature's event. Actually,
same thing that these drugs can
1:20:13
do. Okay, so
1:20:14
Adam Curry: this is the bullcrap
report but wait for the next
1:20:17
story in this pod using
1:20:18
Unknown: all natural foods.
1:20:19
That was WSJ is Jesse Newman.
1:20:23
Adam Curry: And now on to the
next story, what should it be?
1:20:26
Unknown: And finally, after
seven years of research,
1:20:29
McDonald's is taking its burgers
making more than 50 tweaks to
1:20:33
its signature offerings is not
1:20:34
Adam Curry: by mistake people.
This is how your American media
1:20:38
works. It's not a mistake. Like
you can lose the weight now go
1:20:43
eat a burger. And right on cue
right on to right on cue. Did we
1:20:52
not say that McDonald's was
going to have all the morning
1:20:55
shows doing their new thing now?
1:20:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, we're
they're munching down on burgers
1:20:59
and going yum.
1:21:00
Unknown: Let us turn now to our
headline making mystery from the
1:21:03
world of fast food.
1:21:05
Adam Curry: The world of fast
food. Are you excited? Yeah.
1:21:07
Unknown: Look at this. It's a
building in suburban Chicago and
1:21:10
it's been getting a lot of
attention on social media. Now
1:21:12
look closely or write their
cosmetics comic.
1:21:17
John C Dvorak: What's that? What
1:21:20
Unknown: is asking what is this
all about? And this is Maggie
1:21:22
vest. Vash is a head of the
Maggie Good morning. What's it
1:21:26
all about?
1:21:29
Hey Savannah, guys. Good
morning. Yeah, we wish we knew I
1:21:31
mean, well, you can see they're
clearly keeping it under wraps.
1:21:34
There's literally a tarp over
this way if that's not fluid
1:21:38
enough, the major chain backing
dispenser, which if you haven't
1:21:40
figured it out by now is
McDonald's, confirming much at
1:21:44
all tied to cosmic that being
said fast food fans and industry
1:21:49
experts agree this mounting MC
mystery marks a very American
1:21:54
tribe.
1:21:54
Adam Curry: MC mystery was
Maggie Vesper. Did she co host
1:22:00
that debate last night?
1:22:03
John C Dvorak: I don't know who
didn't watch the debate. Because
1:22:06
may wait was a MC mystery? I
think we're
1:22:10
Adam Curry: MC mystery. Lets you
want to hear that the MC mystery
1:22:15
John C Dvorak: they solve the MC
MC solve the big mystery
1:22:18
Unknown: breaking McDonald's
dudes. I've got the scoop on
1:22:21
cosmic this morning
1:22:23
in a nation long obsessed with.
1:22:27
Adam Curry: So insulting, fast
food, and even super secret
1:22:30
about it.
1:22:31
Unknown: fans on social media
are loving this mystery. Right
1:22:36
here it is cosmics and
Bolingbrook Illinois. It looks
1:22:40
like there are going to be four
drive thru lanes online slot
1:22:44
zero.
1:22:46
Adam Curry: Used to be a phone
No, this is going viral as food
1:22:49
joint in
1:22:49
Unknown: the main urban Chicago.
1:22:51
Its name cosmics Oh, no new
venture McDonald's See,
1:22:56
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna leave
all that just goes to the
1:22:58
payoff. The payoff is the best
part.
1:23:01
Unknown: That's an interesting
thing to end on. And by the way,
1:23:03
guys, we've talked a lot about
online sleuths, right? Well
1:23:05
basically before these signs
were tarps and it was kind of
1:23:08
being kept under wraps to this
degree. It's worth noting people
1:23:11
online were doing everything
they could to find out anything
1:23:15
about cosmics Case in point one
guy who posted these photos on X
1:23:19
have what he says is cosmics
menu you can see if this is the
1:23:23
menu it goes all in on drinks,
different iced teas and
1:23:26
lemonades there's something
called a galactic boost they
1:23:29
have frappe A's and the food
section we see like a spicy
1:23:32
queso sandwich and pretzel bites
now reiterate MC
1:23:36
Adam Curry: mystery is solved
but let's thank the company
1:23:39
let's thank the guy who's paying
us to do this horrible native
1:23:44
app again
1:23:44
Unknown: that is one person on
Twitter who posted those photos.
1:23:47
McDonald's has yet to confirm
anything official that being
1:23:51
said another one of those
earnings calls is slated for
1:23:55
tomorrow so it's very possible
guys that our knowledge on this
1:23:58
topic could get supersize very
soon marketing guys gonna get a
1:24:03
salary supersize for this up.
You press posted Maggie,
1:24:07
thank you Maggie,
1:24:08
I hope they have egg McMuffins
the marketing
1:24:10
Adam Curry: guy salary is going
to get supersize for this
1:24:16
John C Dvorak: that these people
are
1:24:18
Adam Curry: should be arrested.
Should this is
1:24:21
John C Dvorak: this is our news
media. This is what it comes
1:24:23
down to Yes. These are your news
there and who gives a shit this
1:24:28
is not across the street from me
what there's as a make serious,
1:24:31
Adam Curry: believable. He's a
serious journalists.
1:24:35
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
they liked. Well, yeah, I like
1:24:38
to think that and they all hate
Trump. So let's make sure they
1:24:40
get that even. These are the
same people that Trump did you
1:24:45
know when they did the debate
they asked Trump was on with
1:24:48
Hannity at the same time oh
really programmed that's funny.
1:24:50
I didn't so he did an ECT made
some deals doing stick doing
1:24:55
material. Yes, joking around.
Good. Good answer. So one of the
1:25:00
things he said was, yeah, they
want me to be a keep saying I'm
1:25:03
gonna be a dictator. I am not
going to be a dictator. Wait,
1:25:06
wait, I'm going to be a
dictator. I'm going to be a
1:25:08
dictator for one day, one day
and he's going to close the
1:25:13
border and start drill drill
drill, and then that's this is
1:25:15
the end of his dictatorship. So
NBC, so I got this thing, this
1:25:21
that clip. It says true moto.
1:25:23
Unknown: Yes. Okay.
1:25:25
John C Dvorak: So, instead of
seeing this as a joke, you know,
1:25:29
because Trump was kidding around
doing anything he could to keep
1:25:32
people's attention off the
debate.
1:25:34
Adam Curry: Yes, they took it so
seriously. They went all
1:25:36
bananas. They
1:25:37
John C Dvorak: went nuts. This
is NBC. Former
1:25:42
Unknown: President Donald Trump
is taking heat for comments he
1:25:44
made last night in an interview
with Fox News host Sean Hannity,
1:25:48
Trump was asked if he would ever
abuse power if he won the
1:25:51
presidency. Take a listen to his
response.
1:25:55
He says you're not going to be a
dictator. Yeah. I said no, no,
1:25:57
no other than day one, with
closing the border with drilling
1:26:01
drilling drilling after that I'm
not
1:26:03
NPCs Ali Vitaly joins us now
from Tuscaloosa, Alabama ahead
1:26:07
of tonight's Republican debate
there. Ally. What is the
1:26:10
backlash? Ben to those comments?
What are we hearing from
1:26:12
supporters of President Trump
and from the Biden campaign?
1:26:16
You're hearing very little from
the Republican side. And I
1:26:18
wonder if that will change once
candidates who are vying to
1:26:21
actually be the nominee over
Trump take the stage though they
1:26:25
have been pretty slow in the
past to condemn or even critique
1:26:28
his remarks in this space. From
President Biden though we're
1:26:32
hearing his campaign arm say
believe Trump when he says this,
1:26:35
believe him when he says that he
will be a dictator, even if it's
1:26:39
only for one day. But these
comments really can't be taken
1:26:42
outside of a vacuum for Trump.
He has made comments akin to
1:26:46
this over the course of the last
several years, praising
1:26:49
dictators and authoritarians
from North Korea to China. Even
1:26:52
joking when Xi Jinping several
years ago was able to fully
1:26:56
establish himself in control of
the executive power there in
1:26:59
China joking that that was
something that he wished he
1:27:02
could do. So this is certainly a
new comment from the former
1:27:05
president, but one that tracks
in a vein of comments that we've
1:27:08
seen from him over the course of
the last few years.
1:27:12
Adam Curry: Oh, man,
1:27:13
John C Dvorak: can you believe
1:27:14
Adam Curry: these people? Well,
so I did watch Tina and I
1:27:17
watched about two commercial
breaks worth of news nation,
1:27:23
because that's what this debate
aired on, which was nation. So a
1:27:27
couple of comments, one, Cuomo
I'm glad Chris Cuomo has a gig.
1:27:33
He he fits in very well there.
1:27:37
John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah.
I
1:27:37
Adam Curry: think it's good for
him. I'm happy. I am kind of
1:27:39
happy for him. To Tina actually
forbid me from doing this, but I
1:27:45
cannot help myself. Megyn Kelly,
her face is so thin. It looks
1:27:51
like the screen mask. There's
something up the it is too thin.
1:27:57
John C Dvorak: I mean, Kimmy she
looks gaunt.
1:28:01
Adam Curry: Gets gone gaunt.
Yes. It was too thin. It's like
1:28:05
It's like she's half a half half
of her face is you already
1:28:08
John C Dvorak: answered the
question. Gone early. The
1:28:10
earlier clips. Well, I
1:28:12
Adam Curry: don't want to go V I
don't want to body shame. That
1:28:16
was I was expressly for Bolton.
That's why I just the face look
1:28:19
like the screen mask. It was
weird. Weird. Go
1:28:24
John C Dvorak: back and look at
I haven't untain Yeah, Chris
1:28:26
Adam Curry: Christie. His he's
only there to protect Nimrod.
1:28:32
That's his only job. The all he
did. All I saw him do was hey,
1:28:37
lay off her. I like I like her.
I like Nikki Haley.
1:28:41
John C Dvorak: Oh, so he's a
foil false total foil.
1:28:45
Adam Curry: Vivek, that's the
way apparently you pronounce his
1:28:47
name. Vivek. doesn't care. He
had it. He had a great line
1:28:50
though. And I really enjoyed it.
He said me the Christie or Haley
1:28:57
can't who want to send your kids
to go fight against Russia and
1:29:00
Ukraine. Or Joe Biden. And he
said can answer can give me the
1:29:04
name of three provinces in
eastern Ukraine. Which of course
1:29:09
they couldn't. That was a
genius. Genius move. Beautiful
1:29:14
now yeah, it was really good.
And who cares? Everything else
1:29:17
he had, you know, it'd be Vegas
just doing stuff. That's funny.
1:29:20
It's good. It's good.
1:29:22
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
is in the as long game is while
1:29:25
he's not going
1:29:25
Adam Curry: to be vice
president.
1:29:26
John C Dvorak: I know. Of
course.
1:29:27
Adam Curry: I did get way I do
get the boots on the ground
1:29:30
about Christie. No member I was
saying that people in South
1:29:32
Dakota don't like her. Yeah, I
want to hear the stories. Okay,
1:29:35
so this is from Craig Weinberg.
This is his sir Craig. One of
1:29:41
the main issues with Christie is
that she's a liar. She seemed to
1:29:44
have more interest in national
politics and South Dakota during
1:29:48
the early days of COVID. She
claimed to never have shut
1:29:51
anything down and let the people
make their own decisions, except
1:29:54
it was the Speaker of the House
at the time who had a very
1:29:56
different story. He has receipts
to show that she actually wanted
1:30:01
to give her health secretary
full control to shut down
1:30:04
whatever they wanted. But the
legislator in the middle of the
1:30:07
night put a stop to it. She also
says things like my budget, my
1:30:11
plan, when she's not writing
anything, there's also the
1:30:14
alleged affair with Corey
Lewandowski that broke pretty
1:30:17
big over the summer that she has
avoided talking about. For
1:30:20
years, there was speculation
that it was happening, but the
1:30:22
proof seems a lot more real now.
She'll say whatever she needs to
1:30:25
align with Trump all the
thinking if she wants his VP
1:30:27
spot, she will get killed in a
general election. Maybe, maybe.
1:30:33
So that was the main thing. Also
farmers lobbied the Public
1:30:36
Utilities Commission. Oh, this
was she wanted. She wanted
1:30:44
carbon pipelines and was going
against the farmers. So they
1:30:49
don't really like her. She's not
all that loved as people make
1:30:53
her out to be, at least not in
South Dakota. But she's got a
1:30:56
look. She's got the look. She's
got a good look. And
1:30:59
John C Dvorak: she's got a good
pattern. She's got a good spiel.
1:31:01
She's She wouldn't get killed in
a general election. She's not
1:31:04
running for president. Nobody
votes for the vice president
1:31:07
anymore. We're not an 1800s
bosses, but it's just a name on
1:31:11
the ballot. Take
1:31:12
Adam Curry: it up with Craig,
man. Don't tell me. I didn't.
1:31:16
John C Dvorak: You know, she
doesn't look at the right to me.
1:31:19
Although, you know, Trump has
shown that he can't pick
1:31:21
Adam Curry: any candidate the
right people now.
1:31:23
John C Dvorak: So how is that
going to change?
1:31:27
Adam Curry: So I have an NPR
clip one minute long, which I
1:31:31
think is about the debate.
1:31:32
Unknown: The fourth Republican
presidential primary debate is
1:31:36
in the books Florida Governor
Ron De Santis or South notice
1:31:39
Adam Curry: how they always say,
I think they're doing it to piss
1:31:41
him off. DeSantis isn't that is
DeSantis but now he knows
1:31:48
DeSantis MPR. Santas Lux
believes on
1:31:54
Unknown: a Ron DeSantis former
South Carolina Governor Nikki
1:31:57
Haley, entrepreneur Vivek
Ramaswamy, and ex New Jersey
1:32:00
Governor Chris Christie squared
off last night at the University
1:32:04
of Alabama. Haley was the target
for much of the night more so
1:32:08
than former President Donald
Trump who skipped the event.
1:32:11
Haley has been climbing in the
polls of late Pat Dawkins with
1:32:15
Alabama public radio spoke with
some students in the audience
1:32:18
afterwards. Nikki
1:32:20
Haley got the warmest applause
as the four candidates took the
1:32:23
stage in Tuscaloosa and the
sharpest attacks that included
1:32:27
Vivec Ramaswamy. You held up a
handwritten sign reading Nikki
1:32:30
equals corruption. That was just
one thing that didn't impress
1:32:33
University of Alabama freshman
Charlie Berry.
1:32:36
That was embarrassing seeing
them talk over each other argue
1:32:39
over each other. I don't want to
see that out of my camp. My
1:32:43
presidential candidate I don't
want to see another Trump. Trump
1:32:46
are like
1:32:46
that. The UAE economics major
was one of only 50 students
1:32:49
allowed in to watch the debate.
The audience for the Tuscaloosa
1:32:52
campus venue was close to 1000
donor NPR News. I'm Pat Duggins.
1:32:56
in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
1:32:58
Adam Curry: it was donors,
special interests and donors.
1:33:03
John C Dvorak: That a few
students into 5050 students so
1:33:06
we can get a bitch about it. I
don't want to see that from my I
1:33:10
don't want another Trump.
Whatever we get. It has to
1:33:13
definitely be a negative. Do you
get the right guy? Hey, find
1:33:16
somebody. It's one of the kids
who hates Trump. Well, that's
1:33:18
all of them hate Trump. Alright,
we'll just get make sure you get
1:33:20
that in there. Just
1:33:21
Adam Curry: hate the Trump.
Yeah, that's that's what you do.
1:33:23
That's all you do. So I do
1:33:28
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's got
some thing about this. Nikki
1:33:30
Haley. They're all the all the
left is promoting Nikki Haley.
1:33:33
They will let the 00 even
1:33:36
Adam Curry: prof G and Kara
Swisher like why could live with
1:33:39
Nikki Haley? Really? So there
weren't she's a warmonger man.
1:33:45
Totally they all are. I'm having
dinner with the oil baron
1:33:50
tonight. Ah, okay, so oh and I
think that he I don't know if he
1:33:55
supports Nikki Haley but the
industry share does so he'll
1:34:00
I'll get she's
1:34:01
John C Dvorak: not going to he's
no good
1:34:05
Adam Curry: but no, she's no
good.
1:34:07
John C Dvorak: She's no good
1:34:07
Adam Curry: she's no good.
There's also she has no chance
1:34:12
this is like
1:34:12
John C Dvorak: well that's why
they that's why the left wants
1:34:15
to run and they keep boosting
her yeah, this is what the
1:34:17
Republicans were really good at
years ago that's when they had
1:34:21
that guy Eagleton. They would
find people they'd promote to
1:34:25
get him into the you know, the
Republicans are very happy that
1:34:28
George McGovern ran as the as
the Democrat because after
1:34:34
Kennedy was assassinated because
he would have been a problem but
1:34:38
the govern goes down he is not
going to beat anybody. So you
1:34:42
put them in Yeah, okay. run
against Nixon. Good luck.
1:34:45
Adam Curry: All right. That's
too funny.
1:34:50
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
odd balls. I do have a three by
1:34:52
three.
1:34:53
Adam Curry: Oh, I was not
prepared. Hold on a second. Is
1:34:56
John C Dvorak: not one of the
best that doesn't exist is there
1:34:58
little long just Same billing
are by three producer well
1:35:04
Adam Curry: we have a three by
three jingle yeah I think we
1:35:06
have we do yes we do. Some my
computer's going slow today for
1:35:11
some reason now it's time for a
three by three by Jessie
1:35:17
comparing story from ABC is
normally at the top of the show
1:35:25
it's a different moment here.
This is something new it must be
1:35:28
it's either really good or just
mediocre was kind
1:35:32
John C Dvorak: of in between but
it's has a it's about this weird
1:35:38
little bull crap. And these
reports may all be bogus, in
1:35:42
fact, about the attacks on the
chips and the Rams. Yeah, man.
1:35:47
Yeah. Back and forth and back
forth and we don't want to play
1:35:50
them. I want to play the ABC NBC
person. The CBS report is the
1:35:54
only one that all of a sudden
out of the blue as opposed to
1:35:58
the other two reports introduces
a whole new factor. Okay, which
1:36:03
we'll start with ABC. The
1:36:05
Unknown: Pentagon now says that
the US has taken new defensive
1:36:08
action in the Middle East. A
deadly US drone strike tonight
1:36:12
this time in Iraq targeting
militants who The Pentagon says
1:36:15
we're about to target American
forces. Here's Martha Raddatz.
1:36:20
Tonight, the Pentagon revealing
a conducted a deadly drone
1:36:24
strike on militants in Iraq, who
the US says we're planning to
1:36:28
launch a drone attack on
American forces. Five of the
1:36:32
Iranian backed militants were
killed. It came as a US
1:36:36
destroyer in the Red Sea spent
more than seven hours on Sunday
1:36:41
responding to multiple attacks.
It began at 9:15am. local time,
1:36:47
the Pentagon said the US has
corny tracked a ballistic
1:36:51
missile fired from Iranian
backed Houthis in Yemen landing
1:36:55
in the waters near the cargo
ship unity explorer at 12pm. The
1:37:00
Kearney detects and drone from
Yemen heading in its direction.
1:37:04
The Navy crew shooting it down
35 minutes later, the Unity
1:37:09
explorer under fire again, this
time the missile hits the ship
1:37:14
the carny response as another
inbound drone is detected and
1:37:19
shot down at 3:30pm. A third
ballistic missile hits another
1:37:25
cargo ship. There is damage
reported but no casualties. One
1:37:30
hour later, a fourth ballistic
missile hits a third cargo
1:37:34
vessel again the carny racing to
this ship to render aid as yet
1:37:39
another drone is launched in the
carnies direction and shot down
1:37:46
the Pentagon blaming Iran for
enabling these attacks using
1:37:49
some of the strongest language
we've heard about Iran, but it
1:37:53
is unlikely the US will
retaliate against Iran directly
1:37:57
for these attacks. Given that
the Pentagon says they do not
1:38:00
believe the USS Carney was an
intended target. Although Jake
1:38:04
Sullivan the National Security
Adviser made clear that any
1:38:08
response by the US will be at a
time and place of his choosing.
1:38:14
Adam Curry: I have a couple
questions before we get to the
1:38:15
next one one this drone was that
like a foreign like Reaper sized
1:38:20
drone was it one of
1:38:21
John C Dvorak: those who said
unlikely did they didn't know
1:38:23
real damage didn't kill anybody
no data we're shooting them down
1:38:27
left and right this is a story
is a hoax. You know what I also
1:38:31
here's why isn't aren't the
aren't the Houthis fighting the
1:38:35
battles they're supposed to be
fighting against the Saudis but
1:38:39
they shouldn't ask for in the
middle of nowhere
1:38:41
Adam Curry: when it comes no
sense when it comes to the big
1:38:43
money organizations in the
United States. I mean, the
1:38:47
military industrial complex
could take a page out of the out
1:38:50
of the farmer playbook man is
much more entertaining their
1:38:53
stuff. They're not making this
fun and entertaining. No one
1:38:58
wants to hear this. They got to
spruce it up. You know what I
1:39:01
liked? I liked the the body cams
like when those the Houthis No,
1:39:09
no the Houthis they hijacked
that ship. Okay, like two weeks
1:39:13
ago, and they had you know they
had the helicopter and they
1:39:16
jumped out of the helicopter and
then they got into the crew. But
1:39:20
it was all it was all body cam
footage to even have footage
1:39:25
done. Yeah, but that's like a
video game. It's like first
1:39:28
person shooter video game it's
exactly the same thing now. It
1:39:33
could have been a video game for
all I know it's getting pretty
1:39:36
good.
1:39:37
John C Dvorak: Well there have
been people that have sent video
1:39:40
game footage into town lots of
news media and they've picked it
1:39:43
up as live reporting I've fallen
forward
1:39:46
Adam Curry: of course. I mean,
have you seen the new Grand
1:39:48
Theft Auto that was starting to
look pretty good
1:39:52
John C Dvorak: duty the rest of
their all dynamite? Yeah, it's
1:39:54
all
1:39:55
Adam Curry: good. Yeah. So I bet
you we could we could say that
1:39:59
we have Footage from a war and
just have our producer send us
1:40:02
the right bits from Call of Duty
and we could just make a report
1:40:05
and it would go viral.
1:40:09
John C Dvorak: So Lester Holt
comes on with his report, which
1:40:14
is a little long and it's same
basic thing these missiles going
1:40:19
back and forth. We don't know
they don't tell us any details
1:40:22
about these drones, any of them.
Are they made out of paper
1:40:26
mache? Are they the ones that
Iranians build that they give to
1:40:31
the Russians and motorcycle
engines? We have no idea they
1:40:35
don't tell us anything. And it's
just it's like a lot. These are
1:40:38
lousy reports.
1:40:40
Unknown: Nearby in the Red Sea
and other dangerous situation
1:40:43
appears to be escalating. In the
latest chapter a US Navy
1:40:47
destroyer rushed to the aid of
commercial ships at the Pentagon
1:40:51
says came under ballistic
missile fire from Iranian backed
1:40:55
militias
1:40:55
Adam Curry: ballistic missile
fire now oh, that's serious. We
1:40:58
get late details now
1:40:59
Unknown: from Courtney QB at the
Pentagon.
1:41:02
Tonight the White House pointing
the blame squarely at Iran after
1:41:06
an hour's long drama at sea
Sunday that saw a US military
1:41:10
warship rush to aid three
commercial vessels under fire
1:41:14
that gun. The weapons here are
being supplied by Iran and Iran,
1:41:19
we believe is the ultimate party
responsible for
1:41:21
this. It began around 9:15am
Sunday when a ballistic missile
1:41:25
landed near a commercial ship in
the Red Sea. Then at noon, the
1:41:29
USS Kearney a Navy destroyer
intercepted the first of three
1:41:33
drones fired towards commercial
ships and the carny itself.
1:41:37
ballistic missiles later hitting
all three of the cargo ships one
1:41:42
after another. None of the ships
suffered major damage or
1:41:45
casualties. Responding to each
distress call the carnie found
1:41:49
itself directly in the path of
Houthi attack drones. The
1:41:53
Pentagon says there are no
indications that drones were
1:41:55
targeting the carny but still
shot them down. The Iranian
1:41:59
backed Houthi rebels in Yemen
have targeted Israeli own ships
1:42:02
in the Red Sea before
1:42:03
we do not believe that all three
of the ships had ties to Israel.
1:42:06
And it goes to show you the
level of recklessness that the
1:42:09
Houthis are operating on. In
1:42:11
October the carny shot down
1:42:13
John C Dvorak: cruise notice
that hold on. Yeah. Did you
1:42:17
notice little parsing that you
can get away with? It's like, we
1:42:20
have no evidence that all three
of the ships are tied to Israel.
1:42:24
Now of course, it's always means
that two of them could have been
1:42:29
you chickenshit stuff. These
people do this
1:42:32
Adam Curry: and get away with
ballistic missile where was that
1:42:35
and of ballistic missiles.
1:42:37
John C Dvorak: But when they
I've seen the missiles they did
1:42:40
recovered from the some of the
stuff they recovered from Gaza
1:42:44
or like they look like hobbyist
missiles or like ballistic but
1:42:48
five feet long.
1:42:49
Adam Curry: No. What's
interesting in all of this, have
1:42:51
you heard or seen a single story
this week about Hamas shooting
1:42:54
rockets into Israel?
1:42:58
John C Dvorak: By her not this
week, but right after this
1:43:01
ceasefire, I heard about oh,
yeah, no,
1:43:03
Adam Curry: but it's been all
this week. Right up until this
1:43:05
morning. Brian of London is
there you sending me videos? Oh,
1:43:08
there they go. They said you'd
never hear about that. No, I
1:43:13
don't know why
1:43:14
Unknown: I'm calling the carny
found itself directly in the
1:43:17
path of Houthi attack drones.
The Pentagon says there are no
1:43:21
indications that drones were
targeting the carny but still
1:43:23
shot them down. The Iranian
backed Houthi rebels in Yemen
1:43:26
have targeted Israeli own ships
in the Red Sea before. We do
1:43:30
not believe that all three of
the ships had ties to Israel,
1:43:33
and it goes to show you the
level of recklessness that the
1:43:36
Houthis are operating on.
1:43:38
In October the carny shot down
cruise missiles and drones The
1:43:41
Pentagon says we're fired by
Houthis towards Israel last cut.
1:43:45
Since the Houthis have
repeatedly targeted ships in the
1:43:49
Red Sea, the US Navy shooting
them down. And all of this comes
1:43:53
as Iranian backed militias
continue to attack us military
1:43:57
bases in the Mideast despite us
retaliatory strikes. But your we
1:44:01
spoke to the Vice Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff today
1:44:04
is this evidence that the war in
Israel and Gaza has really
1:44:07
boiled over into a larger
regional conflict it could
1:44:09
be and so that's one of the
things that we want to track
1:44:11
closely.
1:44:12
To coordinate we've seen the US
strikes have not deterred other
1:44:16
Iranian backed militias from
attacking us bases. So is the US
1:44:20
now considering any actions
specifically against the Houthi
1:44:23
rebels?
1:44:24
Well, let's there so far the US
has not launched any strikes
1:44:27
against Houthi rebels recently,
but officials here tell us after
1:44:30
this weekend's attack they are
not ruling anything out.
1:44:34
Adam Curry: They just can't get
these are these are the wrong
1:44:36
reports. If they want to get a
reason to bomb Iran, they've got
1:44:40
to do something different this
is not working stinks in their
1:44:44
long to the stink long,
1:44:47
John C Dvorak: way too long. But
the next with the next one is
1:44:49
interesting because I think has
a piece of info besides the fact
1:44:53
that you've seen these maps they
keep showing. It looks like we
1:44:55
have about 20 bases in this
area. These
1:44:58
Adam Curry: areas. Yeah,
parallel Oh, Monica. Yes,
1:45:01
John C Dvorak: geez. Well
anyway, let's get the CBS report
1:45:03
out of the way. Yeah.
Additionally, this is the one I
1:45:06
think that's the most
interesting. The escalating
1:45:08
Unknown: violence in Gaza is
raising tensions across the
1:45:11
entire region today.
1:45:12
Today the White House pointed
the finger directly at Iran,
1:45:16
after an American warship was
forced to shoot down multiple
1:45:19
drones that were targeting
various commercial ships in the
1:45:22
Red Sea stop
1:45:23
John C Dvorak: every second.
Have we been pointing the finger
1:45:26
at Iran since the first episode
since this whole thing began in
1:45:31
October 7. Yes, and I just why
is this like she make it out to
1:45:35
be sounded like it's new. I
1:45:37
Adam Curry: realized what
they're doing wrong. Ellison hit
1:45:40
me. They need to intersperse
these reports with those shots
1:45:45
of Iranians going Death to
America Death to America. That's
1:45:50
what they need to put in there.
This is not working. That
1:45:53
John C Dvorak: would work. Yeah,
I liked that idea. If I was
1:45:55
producing I was there's no
reasoning deputy everything else
1:45:58
they do is out of context. Yeah,
you might as well do you
1:46:01
Adam Curry: know when you get
some moolah as they're going out
1:46:04
of death to America, Death to
America, then they can say the
1:46:08
chanting Death to America, Death
to America and the ship and the
1:46:12
shoot and chips whatever.
1:46:13
John C Dvorak: You got a good
thing or not produces you gotta
1:46:15
bring it home. You got to
personalize this. We have the
1:46:18
whole country in flames.
1:46:19
Unknown: We're targeting various
commercial ships in the Red Sea.
1:46:23
Mr. David Martin is at the
Pentagon with new details.
1:46:26
Martin Rooney and backed Houthi
rebels in Yemen had already
1:46:32
hijacked one commercial vessel
in the Red Sea. And now they
1:46:36
have attacked three more,
hitting them with anti ship
1:46:39
missiles. National Security
Adviser Jake Salvini.
1:46:42
And attacks on commercial
shipping and international
1:46:44
waters are totally unacceptable
and have to stop.
1:46:47
The Houthi said vowed publicly
to attack Israeli shipping. But
1:46:51
none of the vessels hit on
Sunday had a current Israeli
1:46:54
connection.
1:46:55
It goes to show you the level of
recklessness that the Houthis
1:46:59
are operating on.
1:47:00
Solomon blamed Iran as much as
the Houthis. We
1:47:03
are talking about the Houthis
here they're the ones with their
1:47:06
finger on the trigger. Oh, that
gun, the weapons by Iran
1:47:10
supplied by Iran. Three
1:47:11
Houthi drones flew toward an
American destroyer in the Red
1:47:14
Sea, which had answered the
distress calls from the ships
1:47:18
under attack. The USS Kearney
shot the drones down even though
1:47:21
it was not the intended target.
1:47:24
If left unchecked, this could
get more serious and more
1:47:31
prevalent.
1:47:32
retired admiral Jamie fogo says,
with one carrier task force in
1:47:36
the Mediterranean and another in
the Persian Gulf, the US has
1:47:40
more than enough firepower with
which to retaliate,
1:47:43
taking out the missile prior to
hitting the target and taking
1:47:47
out the launcher. We're
perfectly capable of doing that.
1:47:50
Now. A US
1:47:51
official tells CBS News The
Pentagon is considering striking
1:47:56
targets in Yemen, but warns that
would only give the Houthis
1:48:00
exactly what they want, which is
to provoke a wider Middle East
1:48:03
war. There was one retaliatory
strike in the region this
1:48:07
weekend, when a US drone killed
five Iraqi militants as they
1:48:12
were preparing to attack
American troops.
1:48:17
Adam Curry: As they were
preparing.
1:48:19
John C Dvorak: First they read
their minds. Yeah. And they're
1:48:22
Iraqis. This was not Iranians
Iraqis. What was that all about?
1:48:28
And we said that we played a
clip about three show two, three
1:48:31
shows ago from Al Jazeera, where
the Iraqi government told us to
1:48:36
get the hell out of there
because you're killing our
1:48:38
people for no good reason.
Remember that? Yes. Yes. And so
1:48:42
this seems to be something going
on in Iraq. That's not kosher.
1:48:48
Yeah, it's using the word
kosher. Probably the wrong
1:48:51
context choice
1:48:52
Adam Curry: of words. I don't
take everybody by JC grand
1:49:00
experiment who parents don't
read from ABC. I do have two
1:49:08
quick observations with
observatory clips that I thought
1:49:12
I'd like to share. This is from
NBC. This is the possibility of
1:49:18
although I've already seen video
of it on telegram so it must be
1:49:21
real as a possibility the
following Mayhap
1:49:25
Unknown: Israel says it's
destroying Hamas in Gaza above
1:49:28
ground and below, targeting what
it says are 300 miles of Hamas
1:49:33
tunnels. Military officials
showed NBC news videos they say
1:49:37
were taken in the northern Gaza
City of Beit Hanoun. A soldier
1:49:41
points to a Hamas tunnel outside
of a classroom. Israel has blown
1:49:45
up some now a US official tells
NBC News The Israeli military is
1:49:50
exploring a new tactic flooding
the tunnels with seawater.
1:49:54
Adam Curry: Now it's it's
interesting they always say sea
1:49:57
water and They always add that
in there. And this triggered.
1:50:03
This is biblical. Now this is
this is what's interesting about
1:50:06
it, judges 945, New
International Version. All that
1:50:12
day I've been Melek pressed his
attack against the city until he
1:50:15
had captured it and killed its
people. Then he destroyed the
1:50:18
city and scattered salt over it.
I'm telling you, these people,
1:50:22
this whole region is is
biblically nuts. Yeah, totally
1:50:27
going in saying
1:50:29
John C Dvorak: that that report
from Richard angle, which is
1:50:33
questionable, I have a very
short 24 Second Gaza report from
1:50:38
NBC, which is I think it was
connected to that what you just
1:50:41
played. There's an anomaly in
here and I want to just mention
1:50:45
it for a minute because it's
gotten on my nerves. I mentioned
1:50:48
last show now I'm gonna mention
it again, intensifying
1:50:51
Unknown: up and down the
Besiege. Strip. Israeli forces
1:50:53
say they're battling three Hamas
strongholds, two in the north,
1:50:56
and one in the south. The
Israeli military says it's
1:50:59
launched around 250 airstrikes
across Gaza. In just the past
1:51:02
day alone.
1:51:03
The Israeli military also
releasing this video saying
1:51:06
troops uncovered the largest
stockpile of weapons so far in
1:51:10
the Gaza Strip. NBC News cannot
verify that claim or when
1:51:13
exactly this footage was
recorded. Oh,
1:51:15
Adam Curry: because they got it
from telegram? Well,
1:51:18
John C Dvorak: I don't care
about that. How come they make
1:51:20
that they do the disclaimer on
that, but they never do to the
1:51:24
disclaimer on the number of dead
know that the Ministry of Truth
1:51:29
up in Gaza says was said we got
15,000 dead. And they never
1:51:33
watched a disclaimer for that.
There's no we don't have any
1:51:36
verification of that. But yet,
when the Israelis put out some
1:51:40
information like that, the cache
of weapons, they put on a
1:51:44
disclaimer. And I would say this
is related to the mention of the
1:51:47
fact that all these missiles are
flying in there and nobody's
1:51:51
covering it. They NBC in
particular is anti Israel. And
1:51:57
not just gonna put that out
there. Yeah, not
1:51:59
Adam Curry: just that, but I
think that it we we only tracked
1:52:02
it a little bit when the whole
Supreme Court thing was coming
1:52:04
down in Israel, which preceded
all of this mess. Israel has
1:52:09
really had really gone woke
you'll recall that Sir Brian
1:52:12
London, was explaining to us
what these protests were about.
1:52:17
Then it was really it was like
he said, it's comparable to
1:52:21
black lives matter in the United
States. Which means which which
1:52:24
to me means it'll have a similar
outcome where a few there's
1:52:29
millions, hundreds of millions
of dollars goes in and then it
1:52:32
goes away cities are destroyed
and the people make off with the
1:52:37
with the loot and you don't hear
from again, and that's the end
1:52:40
of it. And now, Turkish radio
and television TRT I love
1:52:44
getting their slant on things
because of course they hate
1:52:46
Israel. They're bringing up
something that has changed in
1:52:51
Israeli politics. And here comes
1:52:55
Unknown: another crisis seems to
be brewing for Israeli Prime
1:52:58
Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. And
this time, it's with his defense
1:53:02
minister, you have Galland. The
two were to host the joint
1:53:06
conference on Saturday. But
gallant was on our show.
1:53:09
I suggested to the defense
minister tonight to hold a joint
1:53:13
press conference and he decided
what he decided the
1:53:16
two aren't strangers to
disputes. Netanyahu had fire
1:53:20
gallons in March for objecting
to his controversial judicial
1:53:23
reform proposal. Gallons
dismissal was reversed weeks
1:53:27
later, and the proposed
legislation passed but being
1:53:31
challenged in the Supreme Court
my last one October turbine,
1:53:35
Antonia Well, unfortunately,
1:53:37
there is a tension between
Netanyahu and gallant and this
1:53:40
is not new. Several months ago,
Netanyahu decided to dismiss
1:53:43
Scarlet from his position as
defense minister. But frankly,
1:53:47
this is what distinguishes
Netanyahu cannot see anyone in
1:53:51
the minister taking independent
steps that might be considered a
1:53:54
threat to Netanyahu. And
1:53:56
yet the rift between Netanyahu
and gallant has deepened because
1:53:59
of the ongoing war, and the
Prime Minister is facing
1:54:02
mounting pressure domestically
for the security and
1:54:05
intelligence lapses that
happened on October 7, and
1:54:09
internationally to accept the
ceasefire. The latest polls show
1:54:13
his popularity has plummeted to
an all time low, and it's
1:54:18
believed that veteran politician
has sought to prevent other
1:54:21
members of a security cabinet
including Galland from receiving
1:54:26
credit for securing the release
of Israelis under the hostage
1:54:29
deal.
1:54:30
Adam Curry: Sounds to me like
they're going to end this the
1:54:32
same way they're going to end
Ukraine. Bibi gets the BB takes
1:54:37
the blame for everything. That's
what seems like
1:54:42
John C Dvorak: that's what Bill
that's that's a good plan. They
1:54:45
Adam Curry: should hurry up.
Because it's messy.
1:54:50
John C Dvorak: That means do as
much damage as you can before
1:54:52
that happens. Yes.
1:54:53
Adam Curry: In biblical fashion.
Sambal and even people who hate
1:54:57
Bibi are all like yeah, we still
got to do this
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: That's difficult.
1:55:05
Adam Curry: And, you know, as in
the West, we can't really
1:55:08
imagine what that's like, we
can't imagine this, this or
1:55:12
this, you know, centuries old
dispute that just keeps on
1:55:15
going. It's hard for people to
imagine and looking at it from a
1:55:19
Western lens is wrong. We just
We just can't imagine what this
1:55:24
is like. There's no way we're
going to what Europe is going to
1:55:27
learn.
1:55:29
John C Dvorak: Well, Europe's
always close to it. Yeah,
1:55:31
Europe's gonna learn. We always
slide somehow we get out of the
1:55:35
deal at some point. Yeah, we're
isolated.
1:55:40
Adam Curry: We are we're
landlocked. We're ocean locked.
1:55:43
John C Dvorak: We're ocean
locked ocean logs. I have a
1:55:47
couple of other things here that
I wanted to play this for you.
1:55:55
Adam Curry: The troll was like
we're assholes. Well, yeah,
1:55:57
there's that.
1:56:01
John C Dvorak: Yes, you want to
provide a mental health crisis
1:56:03
of pilots?
1:56:06
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, there is a
large mental health. That's why
1:56:09
pilots are doing shrooms.
1:56:13
John C Dvorak: You here's the
mental health of pilots. I want
1:56:15
to get your feedback on I got
this clips for you. Okay, the
1:56:18
Unknown: mental health of
America's commercial airline
1:56:20
pilots is taking center stage
today at the nation's capitol.
1:56:24
The National Transportation
Safety Board or NTSB is holding
1:56:27
a summit on that issue in
Washington on Monday, the
1:56:29
Federal Aviation Administration
announced a new committee to
1:56:32
look at the pilot mental health
and identify barriers that
1:56:35
discourage pilots from reporting
mental health issues. NBC News
1:56:38
aviation correspondent Tom
Costello has more. When
1:56:42
you board a flight, you assume
the pilot is mentally fit to
1:56:45
fly. But aviation and mental
health experts say current
1:56:49
regulations cause too many
pilots to keep their struggles a
1:56:53
secret, leading to mental health
breakdowns some in flight. Today
1:56:58
the NTSB is holding a summit
with experts to develop
1:57:01
solutions.
1:57:02
What's unsafe is not getting
people the help they deserve.
1:57:06
Take the
1:57:06
case of veteran pilot Joseph
Emerson, the guy that tried to
1:57:10
step into the cockpit in October
Emerson tried to shut down the
1:57:15
engines of an Alaska Air flight
while hitching a ride in the
1:57:18
cockpit. A grand jury is now
indicted him on 83 misdemeanor
1:57:23
counts of reckless endangerment
and one count of endangering an
1:57:26
aircraft. Emerson has pleaded
not guilty in court filings, he
1:57:30
claimed he was having a mental
health emergency. He told police
1:57:34
he'd been depressed for six
years had recently lost a friend
1:57:38
and had taken psychedelic
mushrooms 48 hours prior to the
1:57:42
flight. Experts say contributing
to the bigger problem. The FAA
1:57:46
relies on pilots to self report
mental health issues, while
1:57:51
periodic medical exams require
pilots to disclose if they're in
1:57:55
mental health treatment. The
exams do not include in depth
1:57:58
psychological evaluations, or
recent inspector general report
1:58:02
found this limits the FAA is
ability to mitigate safety risks
1:58:06
because pilots are reluctant to
disclose mental health
1:58:09
conditions due to the stigma and
the fear, it will hurt their
1:58:13
careers. This
1:58:15
Adam Curry: is absolutely true.
And I've heard I've heard a lot
1:58:19
about this. There's a huge
stigma you have to self report.
1:58:22
And pilots, of course are not
going to self report. But that's
1:58:25
no different from train
conductors, audit people on the
1:58:29
road. You're your neighbors,
everybody's bus driver,
1:58:33
everybody's in a mental health
crisis. Because we went through
1:58:36
a very traumatic time.
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and they
were and there was traumatized.
1:58:42
Adam Curry: That's the
definition of government. Yes.
1:58:46
And a lot of pilots may have
they, they they were forced to
1:58:51
take medicine, they didn't want
to under severe duress. Some of
1:58:55
them have other health problems
they don't want to disclose. And
1:58:59
the same goes for air traffic
control. Yeah, but you know,
1:59:04
this is all just a prelude to
getting the pilots out of the
1:59:07
cockpit. You know, I'm waiting
for Elon Musk to pop up and go
1:59:11
you go I have a solution. AI can
fly them really.
1:59:17
John C Dvorak: Like part two of
this.
1:59:18
Unknown: We need to have a
system that allows people to be
1:59:21
more forthcoming and to have
treatment for issues that
1:59:24
shouldn't keep you out of the
cockpit. On Monday, the FAA
1:59:27
announced it is creating a
special committee now to
1:59:29
identify barriers that
discourage pilots from reporting
1:59:33
mental health issues getting
fired. He says most conditions
1:59:37
if treated will not disqualify a
pilot from flying. We have
1:59:41
to normalize mental health care
we have to make sure the choice
1:59:48
isn't received treatment or fly.
1:59:53
The Airline Pilots Association
says it supports these
1:59:56
initiatives and also wants the
FAA to fund a peer support
2:00:00
training program for pilots that
would encourage them to confide
2:00:04
in each other and help connect
them with mental health
2:00:07
resources to keep them in the
cockpit back to you.
2:00:12
Adam Curry: So do you have any
other questions because this is
2:00:14
not new pilots are known
drinkers.
2:00:19
John C Dvorak: They why is it
why they make a news out of it?
2:00:23
Well, I have a prelude to the
pilot list plane now no one's
2:00:28
gonna fly in for at least a
decade
2:00:30
Adam Curry: they really don't
want you flying at all they
2:00:32
don't want they don't want you
to leave your home. They want
2:00:34
you to stay in your 15 Minute
city you want you to shut up
2:00:37
John C Dvorak: city that's to
get the 15 Minute cities to give
2:00:41
away now
2:00:41
Adam Curry: she want you to shut
up stay at home work by remote
2:00:45
vote democrat vote Democrat
don't go anywhere and get be
2:00:48
trans. I don't know. It's they
don't want you flying. That is
2:00:53
so obvious. No. Then they're
going to make it very expensive.
2:00:58
With carbon credits. We'll we'll
still be doing the show when
2:01:01
that happens. And they want to
bring in more bullcrap AI
2:01:05
stories, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I'm
just waiting. And where's Elon?
2:01:09
Come on, tell me, you know?
Well, again, it's even easier
2:01:13
and easier to have the AI pilot.
Rockets.
2:01:18
John C Dvorak: Have you seen? I
guess Calacanis has a new
2:01:21
podcast called The all in
podcast and he's bringing some
2:01:25
that for years the all in No, I
didn't know it was that long.
2:01:28
Adam Curry: Well, why are you
watching?
2:01:29
John C Dvorak: It looks
different on this thing. He
2:01:31
because he had Tucker on he went
on and on about stuff. And, and
2:01:35
there was a very couple very
funny moments in there where he
2:01:38
was acting as though him and
Tucker are on the same league as
2:01:43
interviewers. But I don't know
if you've seen this, but but
2:01:47
he's got a different look.
Calacanis Canis looks like the
2:01:51
tenor in a Canadian barbershop
quartet.
2:01:55
Adam Curry: That's not
different. That's his look.
2:01:57
John C Dvorak: I don't I don't
remember him looking that. That
2:02:01
square?
2:02:04
Adam Curry: No. Do you have a
clip for this?
2:02:06
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't I
decide not to get a clip for it.
2:02:10
It's probably a publicity,
2:02:11
Adam Curry: it's probably
better. Probably better. What is
2:02:14
Tucker doing? What is Tucker
doing? He just he's just doing
2:02:19
interviews everywhere. And then
he puts the thing on x and what
2:02:23
is he doing? What does anybody
doing? You know, the podcast
2:02:25
industrial complex finally,
finally crumbled this past week.
2:02:31
glorious moment. One
2:02:32
Unknown: out of every six
employees of Spotify won't be
2:02:35
around next year. The company's
making those deep cuts to its
2:02:38
payroll as it looks to cut
expenses. top executives blame
2:02:41
higher interest rates during the
day make borrowing for capital
2:02:44
expenditures more expensive. The
affected employees will receive
2:02:47
several months severance the cut
follows two previous layoffs
2:02:51
this year a total of 800
employees were let go
2:02:55
Adam Curry: there you go. Right
that $1 billion dollar
2:02:59
investment worked out great.
2:03:01
John C Dvorak: Well I did for
the guys who got the billion.
2:03:04
Adam Curry: Well, what are we
drinking? Oh, it's
2:03:06
John C Dvorak: a Lagunitas
fresher.
2:03:10
Adam Curry: Oh, and poppy or
hoppy? Hoppy so there's your
2:03:14
drinking beer basically? No,
2:03:16
John C Dvorak: it's just a hop
flavor is actually mildly hot
2:03:20
flavored sparkling water and who
makes like it's everybody's
2:03:26
everybody's talking about it
2:03:30
Adam Curry: everyone there are
now it's beer basically it's
2:03:35
like a
2:03:36
John C Dvorak: Chandi beers
water that has hops in it
2:03:39
Adam Curry: you're drinking no
candy
2:03:40
John C Dvorak: no no malt
there's no there's no alcohol is
2:03:45
no
2:03:46
Adam Curry: Do they still make
that on the can anywhere shandy
2:03:49
I haven't seen it for years. Oh
man this beer was seven up I
2:03:53
think and this is the member
2:03:55
John C Dvorak: the beam and coke
in a can have
2:03:59
Adam Curry: never had it. That
was That was during the show? I
2:04:02
think I recall that. It was a
brief, a brief thing. No, I like
2:04:08
this Shandy. It's like 2%
Alcohol Whoo. Yeah, you could
2:04:12
buy it in the can beautiful wood
that I'd like to thank you for
2:04:16
your courage since you're
drinking shandy on the on the
2:04:19
job and say hello to my friend
on the other end Ladies
2:04:23
Gentlemen please welcome the one
and only way with That's the man
2:04:26
who put the sea in the companion
products the one and only Mr.
2:04:28
Johnson
2:04:33
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning you must round curry in
2:04:36
the morning to all ships see
boots on the ground feed near
2:04:38
subs in the water. And all the
damos nights out there in the
2:04:41
mornings
2:04:42
Adam Curry: for the trolls Hello
trolls hold I know I'm coming to
2:04:44
you early So hands up. 1846 on
the troll count 1846 is right on
2:04:55
the money. We are slowly moving
our executive producer segment
2:04:59
more towards the begin thing of
the show as our PhDs have
2:05:01
tapered off, of course, the
promotion ended. So we're going
2:05:05
towards the end of I think we
only really have eight, eight,
2:05:09
executive and associate
executives today. So this is
2:05:13
where it just it's just the end
of the it's the end of the end
2:05:15
of the university is how it
works. Although the 31st of
2:05:20
December, or the 33rd December,
I think, what is it three to
2:05:24
one? It's no 31st The 31st is a
show day, isn't it? It's like,
2:05:30
it's like the super. It's like
the super
2:05:33
John C Dvorak: one palindrome.
332123
2:05:36
Adam Curry: once it's Oh, 123123
There you go. Yeah, it's gonna
2:05:40
be great. And we'll be doing the
show then. And
2:05:43
John C Dvorak: yeah, 123123
what, I don't know what you can
2:05:46
do with that. $123 Maybe
123,123 $23,000 would be
2:05:52
Adam Curry: dynamite. John and
Adam will fly in and have dinner
2:05:54
with you. Oh, yes.
2:05:56
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
what. $123,000 we will both fly
2:05:59
in and clean your house. What
else? Well, I'm down about the
2:06:02
house cleaning but we will have
dinner. We'll bring a house
2:06:06
somebody to clean the house.
2:06:08
Adam Curry: We do love our
trolls are trolls are here to
2:06:10
listen live and to troll. Now. I
still have not replied to any
2:06:14
posts on no agenda social as it
just devolves into the
2:06:18
environment.
2:06:20
John C Dvorak: Any evidence that
you have? I have not I haven't I
2:06:23
Adam Curry: have not. Well, now
you sound like mainstream news.
2:06:26
I have not. I have not posted
anything. Because every single
2:06:29
time you're sick of it, I'm so
sick of it. It's no good. And
2:06:34
it's not. It's not the you're
the one who set it up. But it's
2:06:37
not the people. You have to
understand. It's the system, the
2:06:42
system,
2:06:43
John C Dvorak: the message, the
media is the message, which is
2:06:46
the old Marshall McLuhan idea.
2:06:48
Adam Curry: I would say that's
true. Yes. Yeah. He
2:06:50
John C Dvorak: his theory was
that it's not any it's not the
2:06:53
kind of is nothing but the media
itself, whatever mediated books,
2:06:57
TV, radio, in this case, social
media. It has its own. It does
2:07:03
say it does something to your
brain that's very specific to
2:07:07
the media itself. Correct. Yeah,
and it hasn't been it hasn't
2:07:11
been extrapolated to social
media, but McLuhan's idea, but
2:07:17
that's your basic thought. And,
2:07:19
Adam Curry: and what's
surprising is that it happens
2:07:23
without algorithms. I thought
algorithms made this happen. But
2:07:27
that's not what it is. People
are so narcissistic, they need
2:07:31
to, you know, post their 1000
memes, then they need to tag me
2:07:35
and say, I don't care what you
say, we're just gonna be like
2:07:39
this forever, bitch, you know,
stuff like that.
2:07:42
John C Dvorak: And see now? I
think this the just yeah, that's
2:07:46
basically
2:07:47
Adam Curry: what it is. And then
people say, Adam wanted a
2:07:49
utopia. No, I didn't. It was it
was a mastodon, it was cool. I
2:07:52
just set up a server. And then
when it became too much time
2:07:56
management for me, I just gave
up and then, you know, luckily,
2:08:00
Aaron or took over, but he's not
posting much, either. I think
2:08:03
he's sick of it too. Because
that's all that it's that and
2:08:07
it's not our people. And you
know, and a lot of people try to
2:08:11
manage it. But then when they
see someone going off the rails,
2:08:14
the worst thing you can do is
say, Hey, man, calm down. I
2:08:17
mean, it doesn't work. That'll
do it, it doesn't work. And I
2:08:21
think it's because it's, it's
when you can reply to someone
2:08:25
and create your own thread, and
it has the same equal weight
2:08:28
equal size as the original.
There's something fundamentally
2:08:32
wrong, that doesn't work for
human beings. That's just what
2:08:35
it is. And in that regard, I
think Twitter and Facebook and
2:08:39
Instagram, I agree with Nimrod,
Haley, I think you should have
2:08:43
to register with your real name.
Because then it will all go away
2:08:47
because then no one will do
anything anymore. No,
2:08:50
John C Dvorak: well, what will
happen is that people will find
2:08:53
find workarounds. Well, I work
around people are not going to
2:08:58
do that. They're going to find
workarounds and my real name all
2:09:00
of a sudden is going to be
something you know some other
2:09:03
phony name well we know no way
you can't there's no way you can
2:09:07
police that you can phony up
driver's licenses you can
2:09:10
there's it just gets worked
around. Why the meta net invites
2:09:17
again, the media is the message
the internet invites anonymity
2:09:21
and if you try to squash
anonymity, workarounds, like all
2:09:26
tech, work around comes around,
and boom, you got no end and you
2:09:30
got anonymity again, in a
different form. I'm
2:09:32
Adam Curry: all for anonymity,
but you know, on your own blog,
2:09:36
I'm all for anonymity post away
do whatever you want on your on
2:09:40
your substack not on social
media. There I think just just
2:09:44
to get rid of it. It's not
doable.
2:09:47
John C Dvorak: Now well, you
don't get rid of it is that it's
2:09:49
here to stay?
2:09:50
Adam Curry: I'm voting for Nikki
Haley.
2:09:52
John C Dvorak: She's gonna
2:09:53
Adam Curry: she's gonna she's
gonna force us on no agenda. No
2:09:56
John C Dvorak: bigs, nothing
she's another blow hard politic.
2:10:00
Question. I've anyway, I've just
given up. I've seen by the way
2:10:03
you play a clip of Trump saying
I'm going to be a dictator for
2:10:07
one day, and then they've made a
big fuss about it. Can I use it
2:10:11
just kind of a rhetorical
question because Trump
2:10:14
supposedly is it you know, he's
the liars liar. And he's 30,000
2:10:20
lies. How come everything he
says is a lie? Except this.
2:10:25
Former
2:10:25
Unknown: president? Oh, you guys
2:10:26
John C Dvorak: take him at his
word. Oh, I'm
2:10:29
Adam Curry: sorry that you want
me to play the clip again? Oh,
2:10:30
yeah. No, I
2:10:31
John C Dvorak: don't want to
play the clip. And I'm just
2:10:32
gonna say, they say, oh, no, if
he says you're gonna be you
2:10:35
gotta take him at his word. You
gonna take him at his word? He's
2:10:37
been a bullshitter since the get
go. And they call him out on
2:10:41
being one and he's a liar. Liar.
But yet in this situation, you
2:10:45
got to take him at his word.
make up their minds.
2:10:49
Adam Curry: I see. Well, you
know, the the line I think is
2:10:52
when someone tells you what they
are, believe them. That's my
2:10:56
favorite. When someone tells you
who they are, you should believe
2:10:59
them believe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
you're right. But he's
2:11:06
John C Dvorak: full of crap.
2:11:07
Adam Curry: I love all the
dislike now. The Bronx, you
2:11:11
know, all the man on the streets
off the job shows up on YouTube
2:11:14
and on the reels and shorts.
Well for Trump. The hood is for
2:11:18
Trump. They never put that on
television. Yeah,
2:11:24
John C Dvorak: that's the best.
They don't put anything
2:11:26
Adam Curry: on anyway. So I am a
big fan of the an anonymous
2:11:30
trolls in the troll room. I
think this is a great outlet. I
2:11:34
think it's therapeutic. It's
very good. If you are not
2:11:37
already trolling along on show
day, which now you have to do it
2:11:42
live. It does not for everybody.
It's not easy for everybody to
2:11:46
be doing this. But if you can,
this is therapeutic. You go on
2:11:50
there you go nuts. You're gonna
have a crap name. You can name
2:11:53
yourself whatever you want. You
can you can insult me. The only
2:11:58
thing that gets you cut off or
kicked off is if you post you
2:12:02
know, flood post, like post a
whole bunch of things in a row.
2:12:05
Otherwise, here there's white
mics as we your white mic. Just
2:12:08
the fact that he's white. Mike,
we hate you, Adam. Yeah,
2:12:11
exactly.
2:12:12
John C Dvorak: This is great.
Like,
2:12:15
Adam Curry: we got racist in
there. But it's good because
2:12:18
he's really the big like, I
2:12:19
John C Dvorak: wonder. It's
like,
2:12:20
Adam Curry: it's like, everybody
has this Tourette's when they
2:12:23
get up. They just go crazy. It's
beautiful. And but it's there's
2:12:29
no permanent record. So you
know, it's not gonna hurt you on
2:12:32
a job interview. You don't have
to say who you are. No one's
2:12:36
tracking your IP address. Nobody
cares. Do whatever you want. And
2:12:41
it's funny. I mean, I'm logged
in all the time. I've just
2:12:45
walked by my computer and
they're really going crazy now.
2:12:49
That's right, let it out trolls
let it all out. You can become a
2:12:54
troll and it you know do what
pilots pilot commercial pilot
2:12:57
should get in the troll room and
just go nuts and say whatever
2:13:00
they want and feel about their
company the FAA you know during
2:13:05
a pilot podcast because we of
course there's no agenda
2:13:08
stream.com is 24/7 We have all
kinds of podcasts on there and a
2:13:12
lot of them are live and you can
just mad just go nuts I'm all
2:13:16
for that. That is good. Data is
held
2:13:19
John C Dvorak: no way say one's
good and the other isn't because
2:13:22
this is
2:13:22
Adam Curry: this isn't no
record. This goes this scrolls
2:13:24
off. It's done. Then you can't
comment
2:13:28
John C Dvorak: everything on no
agenda social scrolls off the
2:13:31
eBay, you
2:13:31
Adam Curry: know what I mean?
It's different. It's different.
2:13:34
And then you sit there
refreshing Oh, just reply to my
2:13:37
post my smite my awesome meme.
Did someone do anything yet now?
2:13:43
You can also go to troll room.io
This is where you can listen to
2:13:47
the stream. There's now all the
apps are starting to do the live
2:13:51
stuff is great at podcast
apps.com The modern podcasts
2:13:55
fountain is doing the live stuff
now. Pod verse podcast guru
2:14:01
curio caster cast thematic
everyone's on board now we're
2:14:05
getting even better. We can do a
live concert on December 28 and
2:14:08
the 21st in video. I mean, we
are kicking Spotify ass.
2:14:14
Pathetic, pathetic over there.
And what are we doing with with
2:14:18
chewing gum with chewing gum and
gaffer tape. That's how we do it
2:14:24
at podcasting. 2.0 We are value
for value as you heard earlier.
2:14:30
You cannot monetize the network.
None of it worked. Everyone went
2:14:34
out of business. It's very sad.
I mean, I'm sad for the people
2:14:37
at Spotify. They already
couldn't make money because the
2:14:40
record companies own everything
and the minute the record you
2:14:42
minute you raise your prices the
record companies go okay, we're
2:14:45
gonna ask more for a license.
Which they did. And then you
2:14:49
know, the whole idea was hey,
look at all these millions of
2:14:52
podcasts for free. Let's make
money off of those guys. Yeah,
2:14:56
how that workout Spotify? No. So
I hope those 1000s of people
2:15:02
will get jobs elsewhere. Or if
you're really into podcasting,
2:15:05
I'm sure you can do if you're
willing to stick to take a step
2:15:08
back and build something over
time. I'm not going hide hire
2:15:12
celebrities and no one cares
about. I feel so much better now
2:15:16
with 10. Producers. There's this
great article that runs through
2:15:22
all the the economics of it. And
there were some they were
2:15:25
getting $100 CPM in 2018. Which
is unheard of.
2:15:33
John C Dvorak: Well, Leo was
getting $100 per CPM. Really?
2:15:38
Adam Curry: Yeah.
2:15:40
Unknown: Thoroughly
2:15:40
Adam Curry: on 2015 Maybe or
even earlier than that. Well,
2:15:44
when are we for what was our
first year, our first year was
2:15:46
2008 2007. Okay, where he was
1007,
2:15:50
John C Dvorak: he started. So it
was in the 2008 2009 2010 era,
2:15:56
he was getting 100 CPE. So that
2:15:58
Adam Curry: just everyone knows
what that means. That means
2:16:00
1000 $100 per 1000 people that
are listening, but here's the
2:16:03
funny thing. It's not based on
people who are listening, it's
2:16:07
based on downloads, and Apple
just released iOS 17, which you
2:16:15
can't refuse the upgrade. It
updates us like you don't own
2:16:18
your phone. Apple owns your
phone. So they update you. And
2:16:22
now literally, the CEOs of these
podcast networks are saying,
2:16:26
well, you know, our downloads
are down because of Apple
2:16:29
changing the way they do it
because Apple now doesn't
2:16:32
download stuff you're not
listening to. So they're
2:16:35
admitting that they've had at
least 15% fraudulent numbers.
2:16:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the whole
thing are admitting to saying
2:16:42
your downloads aren't down. They
were exaggerated.
2:16:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So we
never had to deal with that.
2:16:51
Now. What did that mean? We
never got no Joe Rogan offers.
2:16:56
That was great English. We also
don't have videos. No
2:16:59
John C Dvorak: Joe Rogan. And
Texas and my mom just gonna talk
2:17:04
like this. From now on. I don't
care what you think I love
2:17:07
Adam Curry: my truck. Is that
guy? Where's that guy? I love my
2:17:11
truck. Where's that guy? I love
my truck. And I love what I do.
2:17:16
And I love what I do exactly.
And, incredibly, when we went to
2:17:24
what we coined as the value for
value model, which means hey,
2:17:28
here's everything. It's all
premium. It's all top notch.
2:17:31
We're not putting anything
behind a paywall. There's no
2:17:33
levels, there's no tobacco
secret room, secret room, this
2:17:38
is us. Take us how you want take
whatever you want, do whatever
2:17:42
you want to do with us. Start
your own thing on the side, the
2:17:46
key point to us do it all. All
we ask us for time, talent,
2:17:49
treasure, whatever its value,
whatever the value is, you get
2:17:52
out of it, you send it back.
Whenever it's handy for you.
2:17:57
That's why we're still here. 16
years later, can't say that
2:18:01
about the top award winning put
there were shows that weren't P
2:18:05
buddies, a Peabody Award at
Spotify that are getting x now.
2:18:11
Yeah, yeah. And we also don't
have a video of us sitting with
2:18:15
our headphones on Ooh, look at
us. Cool. I gotta use that. You
2:18:18
know what? Cans cans you should
I just do it like a pool. Boy
2:18:22
beanie would look good on you.
That'd be hilarious. It would be
2:18:25
good. We should do one with
video where you were one of
2:18:27
those beanies? Yeah, that would
look great, man. Yeah. Okay,
2:18:33
well, we can do live video. We
can do it on the modern podcast
2:18:36
apps. So instead it just value
for value. Now. We have
2:18:40
phenomenal time, talent and
treasure contributions. One that
2:18:44
has taken up a lot of time and a
lot of talent and and has worked
2:18:48
successfully for over a decade
is no agenda Art Generator,
2:18:53
which unfortunately, had some
kind of critical error. And sort
2:19:04
of all or something deaths or
Paul couture. I hope it comes
2:19:09
back because you know what's
really rough about this? All we
2:19:12
do in the modern podcast apps,
we have chapters and we have art
2:19:16
that goes with the chapters.
They were all linked from the no
2:19:20
agenda, Art Generator. They're
all broken. All of those images
2:19:25
are broken, except, you know,
moving forward, we're going to
2:19:28
do it a different way.
2:19:30
John C Dvorak: Just use the main
image. You can do that. No, but
2:19:35
I know what you mean. Yeah, it
was. It was cool. Yeah. Well,
2:19:38
Adam Curry: it'll come back and
and I have faith in Sir Paul
2:19:41
couture. I really do. And we
have backups of the whole site.
2:19:45
So we can always bring back the
images and the links are a new,
2:19:51
a new domain, but he still
hasn't been able to fix it yet.
2:19:55
Expect the next generation
launch sometime Saturday
2:19:58
afternoon, December 9 2020. 83
And he says you will have to
2:20:02
reset passwords as I am using a
more modern salt and hash for
2:20:06
them. Whoo. He's going to salt
and hash. Salt
2:20:10
John C Dvorak: and hash. Yeah,
this guy's going out there.
2:20:15
That's why it's taking so long
to do using salt and hashes.
2:20:17
Complicated
2:20:18
Adam Curry: isn't really know, I
never heard of it. The next
2:20:21
generation or generator will be
up, though Sunday.
2:20:25
Unfortunately, I do not have
much time during the week. Okay,
2:20:27
sorry. You know what? I love his
job. He's got a job. If it's not
2:20:32
up Sunday, we can wait Brother,
don't worry about it. But that's
2:20:35
an excellent example. Got no
agenda meetups.com. We have Mark
2:20:38
and Maria, who organized the
meetup. I mean, all of these are
2:20:41
ways that you feed back into the
system boots on the ground like
2:20:44
Craig, this is what makes the no
agenda show unique. It is a
2:20:48
postmodern media model that that
I don't think anybody has been
2:20:53
able to rival it. I wish more
people did it. Of course, we
2:20:57
have many people within the no
agenda nation who do it, it is
2:21:01
the only way forward. The only
way for everything. I just you
2:21:07
can't monetize once once the
network was open, and anybody
2:21:11
can you know, you don't you
can't create artificial scarcity
2:21:16
of airtime. How many? How many
ads do you want to run, you can
2:21:19
run them indefinitely. CPMs are
a race to the bottom. Take it
2:21:24
from John and you'd like that.
That's a sub stack for you right
2:21:29
there. So we'd like to thank the
artists who helped us out for
2:21:34
episode 1613. And we titled that
one fossil fools I was informed.
2:21:40
We have used that title
previously. Somewhere in the
2:21:44
1100s Oh, I know. I
2:21:48
John C Dvorak: remember it.
That's always just not supposed
2:21:51
to remember you're the one who
is assigned them. Forever
2:21:57
memory. Well,
2:21:59
Adam Curry: and typically my
memory does,
2:22:01
John C Dvorak: yes. Okay, so why
Yeah, well, I see it.
2:22:06
Adam Curry: It's just, I'm
disappointed in my in my own
2:22:11
failure in my hand on my own and
let me see what it was agenda.
2:22:15
Let me see which one it was
which episode 16 Oh, 1197 1197
2:22:22
which was 29 year was 2019. Ah,
2:22:27
John C Dvorak: it was only four
years ago. I should have
2:22:29
Adam Curry: known I should have
known now. The art which was
2:22:33
done by a sir dirty Jersey
whore. We both liked it. It
2:22:37
didn't take long to choose this.
A lot of people commented that
2:22:41
it looked very much like a 1980s
album art from Germany. And I
2:22:49
think there's something to that
actually. Okay. And, and well,
2:22:54
the
2:22:54
John C Dvorak: piece I liked the
best was the one he did
2:22:59
Adam Curry: do it was that also
him? Yeah, he did those two
2:23:01
pieces. Yeah, but that was it
was too much. And wait,
2:23:04
John C Dvorak: I used it on the
newsletter because I just know
2:23:07
what actually is too small for
them.
2:23:10
Adam Curry: But what I was like
the game of life, was that what
2:23:12
that was or whatever it is. You
just liked it. I just liked it.
2:23:17
You just liked it. But also we'd
look at
2:23:20
John C Dvorak: you like the one
with a cold but no,
2:23:23
Adam Curry: no, no. Oh, yeah.
The Yes. The clown with the
2:23:25
cold. Yeah, kinda. Yeah.
Networks. Yeah, that was fossil
2:23:28
fuels. But we both agreed that
no one knows what coal looks
2:23:31
like
2:23:32
John C Dvorak: anymore. So
Exactly. No, but he
2:23:35
Adam Curry: wouldn't fly at all.
We did not understand methane,
2:23:40
you Jame from Francisco.
Scaramanga? We didn't get that
2:23:43
one.
2:23:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah. What's
Thane? I don't know. I don't
2:23:46
know. I
2:23:47
Adam Curry: didn't know either
stain. The Yeah, no great
2:23:50
question. From networks, but it
didn't say great questions, that
2:23:56
great question mark. So there
was just problems. And it's
2:24:00
tough. It's tough. It's this
2:24:02
John C Dvorak: really is we have
to pick from those system. 10
2:24:05
loan pieces that
2:24:09
Adam Curry: yeah, that are not
our regular 30 debts pulled
2:24:13
John C Dvorak: from the social
Nanogen the social media, so not
2:24:17
going to be?
2:24:18
Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate
your work so dirty Jersey hora,
2:24:20
thank you for the thank you for
the value that you create the
2:24:23
time and the talent was very
much appreciated on that. Thank
2:24:27
you. Thank you. Thank you now to
our executive and Associate
2:24:30
Executive producers for episode
1614. We kick it off with
2:24:35
Derrick Barone who comes in with
a coveted show number donation
2:24:39
1614 from San Antonio, Texas.
And he says show number
2:24:46
donation. I picked you guys up
while searching the truth after
2:24:50
Limbaugh died. Wow. I wonder did
he did you search on Google? I'm
2:24:57
curious about that.
2:24:59
John C Dvorak: Where are you at?
I have no idea.
2:25:01
Adam Curry: You knuckleheads are
now my only source de douche me
2:25:04
please. You've been de deuced
please Knight me sir de bon
2:25:12
stealth conductor of truth and
lover of boobs Keep up the great
2:25:15
work. You too Derek. Thank you
very much we
2:25:18
John C Dvorak: appreciate that
everything is moving around. Sir
2:25:20
Baron not sure keeper. Tricky.
Oh, not your keeper. Okay, so
2:25:27
bear and natural keeper. Oh
monument Colorado 111 1.11 Sir
2:25:34
Baron natural keeper of the
trice lakes after calling out my
2:25:38
brother as a douchebag the guilt
has weighed on me since he was
2:25:42
the one that brought me to your
show and I wouldn't have found
2:25:44
you guys without him. Oh, no,
please credit this donation to
2:25:47
him and give him the D douchey.
Greatly needs for now please
2:25:50
Knight him sir owl. Live
available all the servers can be
2:25:54
duplicated by the Wishing you
don't have to ask about that.
2:25:57
And give him a helping of mutton
hookers. And blow it you get
2:26:00
that anyway. So that's to get us
to fall back.
2:26:03
Adam Curry: Oh, give us a given.
2:26:04
John C Dvorak: Please add him to
the birthday list. 1211 and give
2:26:08
him a biscuit for his birthday.
They always give me a biscuit on
2:26:11
my birthday.
2:26:14
Unknown: You fan de Deus.
2:26:18
John C Dvorak: And a dose of
karma as always, thank you for
2:26:20
everything you guys do. Mark
Rushall
2:26:25
Unknown: you've got karma.
2:26:29
Adam Curry: Okay, I gotta expand
my myself formatting here.
2:26:34
Moments. People right outside
the box. Okay, so that's a but
2:26:41
that is a switcheroo for Sir
owl, right? Yeah, yeah, I
2:26:47
presume that went wrong, sir.
Get that right, sir. Okay, boom,
2:26:54
boom. Next up, sir. stacker.
Menomonee. Falls, Wisconsin.
2:26:59
1000. Thank you for accepting my
treasure and for your service.
2:27:02
All my best to you, Adam. Neil
Smith, sir. stacker. Baron, bird
2:27:06
seed. PhD graduate. Did this
come in? Must have come in with
2:27:12
a check. I guess that is a PhD
graduate.
2:27:15
John C Dvorak: Is this a check?
Noted?
2:27:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think so.
Okay. Daniel Smith. Yep. He's on
2:27:23
the list as a graduate Yes.
Correct.
2:27:27
John C Dvorak: He, yeah. Wait,
now we have Kyle who came in
2:27:31
with another $1,000. And it was
sent as a tribute to Michael
2:27:35
Daigle in a senti. A he had it
was a very cryptic series of
2:27:43
notes that Kyle sent in. And
he's without contributions. And
2:27:47
then he sent this thing in as a
tribute to this guy with a photo
2:27:52
on his note and the whole thing
and we're just, there was no
2:27:55
evidence that he wanted us to
say anything more than that.
2:27:58
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, it's a
tribute to Michael Degli
2:28:01
Innocenti. Do we want to put his
name as the as the producer in
2:28:04
that case?
2:28:05
John C Dvorak: No, Kyle gets it.
2:28:07
Adam Curry: Okay. Excuse me.
Anonymous controller. Franklin,
2:28:12
Indiana. I think I met him
34567. That's 34567 sends us
2:28:17
into knighthood. And we'd like
to do a switcheroo and give it
2:28:19
to Dave The broke controller. I
think this is this is from the
2:28:24
meetup. While Dave is tiny and
broke. He hit us in the mouth
2:28:29
and it's always attempting to
hit others in the mouth. Without
2:28:32
him. We'd never know this show
existed yesterday. This is from
2:28:34
the controllers. He will be
known as the unknown Knight
2:28:38
until he writes in and chooses a
name JCD. You are the father
2:28:41
Dave never had. So can you
please in your most fatherly
2:28:44
tone say I'm proud of you, kid.
2:28:47
John C Dvorak: I'm proud of you
kid.
2:28:49
Adam Curry: It will give it will
give it if I felt that even.
2:28:54
It'll give him the motivation.
He needs to keep evangelizing
2:28:56
for the no agenda show and make
disciples who he become who
2:29:00
become donors. Adam, pleasure
meeting you and the keeper.
2:29:03
She's lovely. By the way. It was
one of our human resources who
2:29:06
vomited all over the floor at
the meetup. Oh, I didn't see
2:29:09
that. I missed it. I missed it
good vomit. Bringing kids into a
2:29:13
bar wasn't already a
questionable parenting decision.
2:29:16
One of them had to go puke and
ruin it for everybody else.
2:29:19
Luckily, the no agenda unit was
full of loving and kind people
2:29:22
who were understanding and
sympathetic. The only jingle
2:29:24
we'd like to hear is JC DS Hot
Pocket love from anonymous
2:29:29
controller and his wife
2:29:30
Unknown: had pockets.
2:29:33
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is for
Dave The broke controller Dave,
2:29:37
the broke. I didn't hear about
that at all. That's fine.
2:29:42
John C Dvorak: I didn't hear
about it. Well, next on the list
2:29:44
is coincidently Linda Lubetkin
in Lakewood, Colorado, jobs calm
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resume that gets results go to
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Image makers inc.com For all
your executive resume and job
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search needs. Yeah, that's image
makers. equals k.com or just
2:30:02
find Linda Lu patcon under the
show's producer list with love
2:30:06
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs,
2:30:09
John C Dvorak: let's vote for
job. Karma.
2:30:16
Adam Curry: And finally, Yes,
last one, sir Jeff from Mount
2:30:20
Shasta, California. 200
Switcheroo for Dame Danny from
2:30:25
Sir Jeff. Okay, so please also
add Dame Danny to the birthday
2:30:30
list her birthday December 7.
That's the show today. Thank you
2:30:32
for all you do. Here's the final
donation amount for my smokin
2:30:35
hot wife to officially become
the dame that she's always been.
2:30:38
Let us bestow the title of Dame
Danny of the screaming goat
2:30:41
society, love and light, sir
Jeff Knight of the five seasons.
2:30:47
So I will put Dame Danny of the
screaming goat society in the
2:30:52
switcheroo note beautiful. And I
think that does it right.
2:30:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they'll
read the rest of these. There's
2:30:59
only a few. Just
2:31:01
Adam Curry: let me thank
everybody who of course is an
2:31:03
executive or Associate Executive
Producer. These are credits that
2:31:06
are completely valid. They're
real. You can use them anywhere
2:31:10
that credits are recognized.
That's Hollywood, by the way
2:31:13
that sag AFTRA you can use that
it's it's the real deal. You can
2:31:17
put it on your LinkedIn on your
resume in your bio if you have
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one, or go to imdb.com If you
don't have an IMDB you can open
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one up. It's all legit. And
thank you for supporting the no
2:31:28
agenda show.
2:31:30
John C Dvorak: Jeffrey Benson is
up with $123.21 and he's from
2:31:34
Denver, Pennsylvania. I think he
needs a D douching. You've been
2:31:43
D deuced. Harrington sparks
Nevada $100 Anonymous from a
2:31:48
post office in California. $100.
You know who you are. Baroness
2:31:53
night in Edmonds, Washington 90.
Daniel Mudge in Fairborn. Ohio.
2:32:01
808. He wanted to be at the meet
up meet you. Kevin McLaughlin
2:32:07
from Concord, North Carolina who
wanted to be at the meet up for
2:32:10
sure. Because he says give those
boobs the respect they deserve.
2:32:14
808 Alex Reichman in Peck
Michigan 808 the Ryan White n y
2:32:24
n Kartini in Torrington,
Connecticut 7421 Jose Prius
2:32:30
Prius paratus in Wichita, Kansas
6933, Sir becoming heroic in
2:32:36
shear Ville, Indiana 6886 which
he claims as jiggly boobs, I'm
2:32:45
sure Andrew Pana Bianco in
Peoria, Arizona. 6154. Kevin
2:32:53
McLaughlin is back at 606. Don't
be shy. Just give those boobs a
2:32:57
try. He says Grayson insurance
in Aurora, Colorado 606. Also
2:33:04
small boobs, tre cougars and
Amelia, Ohio 5555. It's quite
2:33:13
sure what the note says David
Weicker in Jacksonville, Florida
2:33:18
5510 And he wants a promotion
for southeastern turfgrass
2:33:23
supply. Miko should be the in
the name of his name instead of
2:33:27
the Dave. David Weikert. Okay,
did 510 Michael gates 50 to 80
2:33:33
Heather Goodwin in kowhai e. Y
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2:33:42
Thomas and N Kenny, Iowa 51
jacquelene Keeley in Downers
2:33:50
Grove, Illinois with a birthday
actually it's a birthday to his
2:33:55
her douchebag husband $51 can be
is on the list. Miles
2:34:01
Charlotte's we'll give him a
douching then miles in
2:34:08
Charlottesville, Virginia 5033
Lynn Melanau ski in Stafford,
2:34:14
Virginia 50 and these are all
50s. From now on, I will finish
2:34:17
with this name location Douglas
Moog and Cochran cochranton.
2:34:25
Pennsylvania. Alex Zavala in
Kyle Texas or Kylie
2:34:29
Adam Curry: Oh surroundings, Sir
Alex,
2:34:31
John C Dvorak: Sir Alex, Miko
Lebar are lead bar A in
2:34:36
Williamston, Michigan Pay Pal,
Inc. 50 $50. Thanks, PayPal.
2:34:44
When he came his PayPal, a Ryan
tear maybe it's just a refund.
2:34:49
Brian Tiernan in North
Providence, Rhode Island.
2:34:53
Matthew Smith in Colchester,
Suffolk, UK, Jonathan Faris in
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Liberal Kansas, Philip Those
Makowski in Austin, Texas,
2:35:03
Edward Mazurek in Memphis,
Tennessee Steven ray in Spokane,
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Washington, Jonathan Meyer in
Xenia, Ohio. Justin Cruz attach
2:35:11
up California. Robertson home in
Flint, Michigan and last on our
2:35:16
list is Carrie Jackson in
Watertown tend to tend tend to
2:35:20
see tend to thank us people for
helping us out here on this show
2:35:24
of 1614. And
2:35:26
Adam Curry: thank you to
everyone who came in under 50 We
2:35:28
don't mention anything under 50
A lot of people like that for
2:35:31
complete anonymity. I see you
4999 But also, if everybody
2:35:35
would consider going on one of
the sustaining donations which
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you can make up yourself, you
can make up the frequency you
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can make up the amount you know
how much just something that is
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recurring, that really does help
when things get slow. You can
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learn more about it here.
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2:35:53
donations.com And thank you for
supporting us here. Our formula
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is this. We go out we hit people
in the mouth
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it's actually no agenda
donations.com That's what it is.
2:36:22
Here are your birthday Shawn
wishes wife Miranda Happy
2:36:26
birthday is today. And Sir Jeff
wishes a smokin hot wife Danny
2:36:31
also Happy Birthday also today.
Then we have David winker,
2:36:35
wishing his amazing daughter
Aspen joy, wicker a happy
2:36:38
birthday she turns 11 tomorrow
on the eighth Did you enjoy the
2:36:42
limo ride he wants to know sir
Baron nuts your keeper wishes
2:36:46
his brother owl happy birthday
for the elevens Jacqueline
2:36:49
Keeley Happy birthday to you are
lovable husband Mike Healy. And
2:36:52
Derek by the way as a brand new
human resource she was born
2:36:57
yesterday on December 6, her
name is Ellie, we say welcome to
2:37:01
no agenda nation and give our
nation Ellie happy birthday from
2:37:04
everybody he had the best
podcast in the universe. Then we
2:37:08
congratulate Neil Smith with his
PhD of course say he will be
2:37:12
able to he's so eligible for
that so we'll get that in the
2:37:15
mail and we have a day when a
couple of nights if you've if
2:37:18
you've got to go gotta
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John C Dvorak: read here
beautiful.
2:37:23
Adam Curry: Derek Marone out and
gave the broke controller come
2:37:27
on over here step on up on the
podium all of you have support
2:37:30
the no agenda show or have been
supported to the no agenda show
2:37:33
in the amount of $1,000 or more
and I am therefore very very
2:37:37
happy to pronounce Kate these
named Danny of the screaming
2:37:40
goat society. Sir deep bone
stealth conductor of truth and
2:37:44
lover of boobs are out and the
unknown night for you. We've got
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hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay extra helping of that
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we've got Polish potato vodka
harlots and howl doll beer and
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blondes Brazilian hotties and
Kashia. We got back in vanilla
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bong hits and bourbon sparkling
cider escorts, ginger ale and
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dribbles, breast milk and
pablum. And, of course, Madani
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Mead extras for those who need
it, go to no agenda
2:38:07
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rings.com Sorry. And take a look
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at the handsome night and Dame
rings we have there. That's also
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where new Neil Smith can still
get his PhD. Now that means
2:38:22
you'd love to give us your
address and the exact name you
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want it for the night rings. We
need your ring size, there's a
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handy sizing guide there. And
please also tell us where to
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send it because with that not
it's a signet ring. So you get
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your beautiful Notre Dame ring
along with wax to seal your
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important correspondence and a
certificate of authenticity.
2:38:40
Thank you so much for joining
that exclusive club but the no
2:38:43
agenda Knights and Dames.
2:38:54
Well, you heard my meet up
report at the top. It was a
2:38:56
great time. We really appreciate
once again, Mark and Maria,
2:38:59
thank you so much. I'm sure
we'll have the full meetup
2:39:01
report for Sunday's report.
Takes a little bit to get all of
2:39:04
those edited together. In the
meantime, we do have the Webster
2:39:07
County whet your whistle meetup
report. Well,
2:39:10
Unknown: in the morning this is
Charles Shelton from the Webster
2:39:14
County whet your whistle monthly
Wednesday meet up. It was a real
2:39:20
turnout tonight. It was a party
of one me and that's okay. But
2:39:25
connection is protection for
everybody who showed up last
2:39:28
week and for the weeks before
and the weeks into the future.
2:39:31
May y'all have a good time and I
will be here next month first
2:39:36
Wednesday of January respect we
make much we mix we much and
2:39:41
that which means be committed.
2:39:43
Adam Curry: Alright close. could
try. There is a meetup taking
2:39:47
place today. The five forks is
the first Thursday at six
2:39:50
o'clock at Bullwinkle tavern
that's in Simpsonville, South
2:39:53
Carolina, the northern wake of
Thanksgiving recovery circle of
2:39:57
trust six o'clock at Compass
Rose brewing in Raleigh, North
2:40:01
Carolina, there's the Carolinas
for y'all taken care of. On
2:40:04
Friday the Deep State University
alumni meeting from Munich and
2:40:07
upper Bavaria this it is it's
your site Taylor Brauhaus. In
2:40:12
our set is our tall Bavaria,
Germany. I'm expecting a meet up
2:40:17
report from that. Also the brow
house right yes. brow and Bright
2:40:22
House. The Brandon's in Florida
to meet up two o'clock at Big
2:40:27
Top brewing Lakewood Ranch,
Florida. That's on Saturday.
2:40:29
Also on Saturday, the local 406
Yuletide. This is the Montana
2:40:33
standard state standard time 333
At Bridger Brewer brewing Three
2:40:38
Forks, Three Forks, Montana. The
New York City no agenda drinking
2:40:42
club meets at 333 in Wing bar
and Brooklyn New York's are
2:40:46
spoon makers there. I would like
a meet up report from Brooklyn
2:40:49
as well. I can't believe the no
agenda listeners in Brooklyn yet
2:40:52
run out of town. The
northeastern Houston meetup five
2:40:57
o'clock in Houston on Saturday
at 3040 Farm to Market The
2:41:01
Northeast Ohio holiday winter
fest. Not totally not a
2:41:04
Christmas get together at six
o'clock. That's 56 kitchen in
2:41:09
Mayfield Heights, Ohio. And
finally before our next show day
2:41:12
on Saturday, the second annual
cheesy spot see holiday meet up
2:41:16
630 And Gore melts. That's in
Fredericksburg, Virginia. I did
2:41:20
want to make one mitten
mentioned because I saw popping
2:41:23
up on the schedule April 8 a
meet up in Fredericksburg,
2:41:27
Texas. I recommend you not do
this meetup. I recommend you do
2:41:32
not come this unless you have
already unless you have lodging
2:41:37
and know where you're going to
stay. It is going to be a
2:41:39
nightmare. I will not even be
able to get to this location.
2:41:43
There's going to be over 100,000
people in Fredericksburg. It's a
2:41:48
bad idea is that there is
2:41:50
John C Dvorak: some background
here. This is just condemned
2:41:52
condemnation.
2:41:53
Adam Curry: This is the big
solar eclipse. Well, yes. Now
2:42:01
Ana, Texas, you
2:42:02
John C Dvorak: might want to go
the solar eclipse last year. But
2:42:05
this
2:42:05
Adam Curry: is this is going to
be the big one. This
2:42:07
Fredericksburg is right in the
middle of the path. This is
2:42:09
where it's going to go dark.
Dark for a total of 15 minutes,
2:42:14
who and the whole the world is
coming to Fredericksburg. It's
2:42:18
going to be a horrible
nightmare. So I'm not going to
2:42:23
be at this meetup. I won't even
be able to get there from where
2:42:27
I live. So stop doing these
smart ass things. People it's
2:42:32
not good for you. Do not do
this. You know how many people's
2:42:36
Hey, man, what are you doing for
the clips? I want to come stay
2:42:38
with you? No, no, I'm gonna have
to stand outside with my with my
2:42:42
rifle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because
we know there's an empty plot
2:42:47
next to us. Do you get people
camping on their lightened
2:42:49
fires?
2:42:50
John C Dvorak: I just have your
duck the dog loose? Yeah.
2:42:55
Adam Curry: That could turn out
perfectly. You know the trolls
2:42:57
like you just take your electric
bike Nope. You have no idea that
2:42:59
will be the street will be one
year electric bikes will be one
2:43:04
just may
2:43:05
John C Dvorak: Whatever happened
to that that one wheeled piece
2:43:08
of crap that little scooter
thing used to drive up and down
2:43:11
and in the apartment building
and whatever happened to that?
2:43:14
Adam Curry: Oh, or the
hoverboard? Yeah, I got rid of
2:43:17
it before it blew up. I thought
it would be smarter. Those
2:43:19
things blow up. Now the
batteries ignite in your house.
2:43:24
I guess you don't see those much
anymore. It was two wheels by
2:43:27
the ways two wheels hoverboard
wasn't one wheel. That's our no
2:43:31
agenda meetups go to no agenda
meetups.com And just like Mark
2:43:34
and Maria who were very smart
they never want to go through
2:43:37
the lockdown without a community
ever again. That's why they
2:43:41
started it because they know
connection is protection no
2:43:43
agenda meetup.com start when
yourself go hang out with
2:43:55
Unknown: me triggered you will
be buddy feels the same. It's
2:44:04
like
2:44:07
Adam Curry: just like a party. I
I have two ISOs I wouldn't mind
2:44:13
trying to I suppose when I go my
first you've been more winning
2:44:19
lately than I have so I feel
like I should be subjugated here
2:44:22
we go
2:44:23
Unknown: trash takes itself out
every single time.
2:44:27
Adam Curry: A little too long. I
think a little too long. How
2:44:29
about this one? Democracy
forever Dude, we get it kinda
2:44:36
like that one. I don't know what
he said but democracy forever
2:44:40
Dude, we get it. He couldn't
hear that really couldn't hear
2:44:43
okay,
2:44:43
Unknown: here we go. Democracy
forever, dude. We did it.
2:44:46
Adam Curry: I could hear pretty
well.
2:44:49
John C Dvorak: Okay, got two
short ones. All right. One so
2:44:52
short has got a zero seconds
maybe not even be on here.
2:44:56
Anyway, is easy.
2:44:58
Adam Curry: It's just that easy.
That's just unintelligible was
2:45:02
mine.
2:45:03
John C Dvorak: There you go.
There you go.
2:45:08
Adam Curry: I think there you go
is probably the best of all of
2:45:10
them was the clearest. Yeah,
that's, that usually is what
2:45:13
wins?
2:45:15
John C Dvorak: Yes. I love how
people always able to send us
2:45:17
these things should note that
2:45:19
Adam Curry: if you can't hear it
or it can't be more than two
2:45:21
seconds for two seconds is
2:45:23
John C Dvorak: the max to you?
And also if it's just got music
2:45:27
behind it or it's muddy or it
hasn't funny, and we're not
2:45:31
Adam Curry: we're not looking.
We're not looking for people
2:45:33
saying in the morning. No. Hey,
this guy said in the morning.
2:45:37
No, no, no, no, that's sad
enough on that's not it. That's
2:45:42
not it.
2:45:43
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of clips that I've been sitting
2:45:45
on I want to play. Okay. Because
nobody knows about this is not
2:45:50
being played by the mainstream
media. No. Somehow I think this
2:45:54
is an OP. Ed, I think and I say
one of our intelligence agencies
2:45:58
is doing it. It's called the
White Paper movement in China.
2:46:03
Oh, what is
2:46:03
Unknown: this in an event right
outside of the US Capitol this
2:46:06
evening, a group of Chinese
dissidents and human rights
2:46:09
activists are trying to remind
the world that the Chinese
2:46:12
Communist Party's grip on its
people may not be as strong as
2:46:16
it seems. And that's clear not
only from the people who are
2:46:19
commemorating the white paper
movement today, but also with
2:46:22
the white paper movement itself.
So just to take you back to
2:46:25
exactly how this all started.
While around this time last
2:46:28
year, there were 10s of 1000s of
Chinese people who took to the
2:46:31
streets holding up pieces of
blank white paper in protest of
2:46:35
China's zero COVID policy, but
not only in protest of that
2:46:38
policy, also calling for an end
to the Chinese Communist Party
2:46:42
in the dictatorship,
2:46:44
what that would take to rest
your life, in a regime like
2:46:47
that, to speak on behalf of
truth and protest tyranny. I
2:46:51
think that should give us all
who are lucky enough to live in
2:46:53
the free world, some courage to
do whatever we can to protect
2:46:57
the freedoms we have.
2:46:58
Year after year, more and more
Chinese people are standing up
2:47:01
to demand their basic human
rights. Year after year, the
2:47:05
change is happening,
2:47:07
took it upon himself to read off
a list of names of people who
2:47:10
were actually involved in the
white paper protest movement who
2:47:14
are still being detained in
China today, I also got a chance
2:47:18
to catch up with lawmakers about
the commemoration of this white
2:47:21
paper Freedom Movement. And they
said this is something that
2:47:24
should be encouraged because it
is a beacon of hope. So
2:47:28
it's actually a little glimmer
of hope that that's still the
2:47:31
China's stronghold on his people
is not as strong as they think
2:47:34
it is. And
2:47:35
Adam Curry: encourage them to
continue with that for the cause
2:47:37
of freedom around the world is
to acknowledge their sacrifice,
2:47:42
and and applaud their sacrifice.
And think it's important to
2:47:46
continue to do that. And this
has to happen organically within
2:47:50
the country. Where I'm at so the
Charlie's only vaguely my ass so
2:47:55
they're holding up white pieces
of paper. Yeah. Isn't that just
2:47:59
shouldn't people be making memes
out of that? Writing?
2:48:03
John C Dvorak: This whole thing
has been repressed in terms of
2:48:05
our mainstream coverage.
Interesting. So but I mean, I
2:48:10
wish I think it makes it not
work. Or somebody told I don't
2:48:13
know I have. I think there's an
OP involved here. But I don't
2:48:16
understand why this hasn't been
picked up is already a year old
2:48:19
is movement. And it's discussed
as such the white paper
2:48:24
movement. You never heard of it.
I never heard of it. No, I
2:48:26
haven't. I think this is a part
two to this.
2:48:30
Unknown: Yes, there is. And this
comes at a time when there's a
2:48:32
new undiagnosed pneumonia
breaking out in China and sprite
2:48:36
is in hospitalizations to spike.
Now this is raising concern
2:48:40
among lawmakers here in
Washington DC many of those whom
2:48:43
I spoke to said that they're
very concerned about the issue
2:48:45
of transparency in the data
coming out from China saying
2:48:49
that they don't even know how
serious this pneumonia is
2:48:51
because China recently covered
up the COVID 19 pandemic which
2:48:56
caused millions of deaths around
the world. Okay,
2:48:59
Adam Curry: well, interesting.
This may coincide with I have
2:49:02
two clips. What's going on in
the UK as everything now all
2:49:08
deaths, everything is being
blamed on Boris Johnson. You'll
2:49:12
recall that they had parties
they had parties.
2:49:16
John C Dvorak: We had a clip the
other what was the clip do Yeah,
2:49:18
he's the one who screwed up to
Ukraine thing he went
2:49:22
Adam Curry: he'd been blamed for
everything. Yeah. And it fall
2:49:25
guy and so now they have these
inquiries because they had the
2:49:28
WhatsApp messages. And you know,
supposedly Boris Johnson said,
2:49:33
you know, we're not locking down
the economy Let The Bodies pile
2:49:37
up. Hi, let 80 year olds die. So
this is what's now in the in the
2:49:41
British press mid
2:49:43
Unknown: March 2020 When most
European countries were under
2:49:46
lockdown to stop the spread of
COVID. In the UK, it was almost
2:49:51
business as usual. It's only on
March 23 that former Prime
2:49:56
Minister Boris Johnson announced
the first lockdown Oh,
2:50:00
you must stay at home. former
2:50:03
officials told the inquiry into
the handling of COVID that
2:50:07
taking the decision so late
likely cost lives.
2:50:11
I want to take this opportunity,
if I may, my lady to apologize
2:50:16
to the victims who endured so
much pain the families who
2:50:22
endured so much loss as a result
of the mistakes that were made
2:50:27
by government.
2:50:28
Boris Johnson allegedly put the
economy first sacrificing
2:50:33
vulnerable people he's accused
of saying this to his advisers.
2:50:38
Did
2:50:38
you see them say like the bodies
piled high in their 1000s or
2:50:41
it's only killing 80 year olds.
2:50:45
There's been a few different
versions of this, these stories
2:50:48
knocking around. And you hear
that? I heard that in Prime
2:50:52
Minister study.
2:50:54
former officials have told the
inquiry that Johnson often
2:50:58
changed his mind and struggled
to understand the science behind
2:51:02
the pandemic,
2:51:05
in saying that the Prime
Minister at the time gave up
2:51:07
science when he was 15. And I
think he'd be the first to admit
2:51:11
it wasn't his forte, and that he
did struggle with some of the
2:51:15
concepts and we didn't need to
repeat them often.
2:51:19
Adam Curry: Here's what's
interesting.
2:51:21
John C Dvorak: Well hold on a
second. This is sounds like bull
2:51:25
crap to me. Well, they
2:51:27
Adam Curry: have they have the
WhatsApp messages. That's the
2:51:30
problem. Yeah.
2:51:33
John C Dvorak: I guess those
can't be phony it up.
2:51:36
Adam Curry: No, no, I think it's
the I think it's the real decay.
2:51:39
Well,
2:51:39
John C Dvorak: he hasn't denied
it.
2:51:40
Adam Curry: But here you go.
Well, he is kind of, you know
2:51:43
what? Anybody could have said
that it doesn't matter. He's
2:51:47
He's the fall guy. But what's
interesting is the hoity toity
2:51:51
Brit, the journalist, the news
agents, UK, these are famous
2:51:57
journalist, they do the podcast
and news agents. It is a very
2:52:00
successful podcast is
financially successful. So
2:52:03
that's amazing by itself. So
they're talking about this, and
2:52:07
then they reluctantly give Trump
a compliment.
2:52:11
Unknown: He missed quite a lot
of the detail
2:52:13
of how serious it was okay to do
something I've very rarely done
2:52:15
before, which is to talk about
the smooth good governance of
2:52:19
Donald Trump's administration at
the same time, but it was the
2:52:21
31st of January, that they
banned flights from China into
2:52:26
the US because they were so
alarmed. COVID coming in, we
2:52:29
just racist at the time. Oh,
another one of them. Exactly.
2:52:35
You thought that Trump was
trying to kind of re litigate
2:52:37
the trade battle with China in
different ways. And this was
2:52:41
John C Dvorak: China banned.
2:52:43
Unknown: Exactly. But there you
were, at the end of January in
2:52:46
Washington, DC, with Trump
announcing no more flights in
2:52:50
from China. And Boris Johnson is
say, way into February Oh, we
2:52:54
didn't really realize how in
Washington, I think they did
2:52:57
realize that it was pretty
serious early on.
2:53:00
Adam Curry: And what's so
unbelievable, is how Cavalier
2:53:04
they are now about their own
reporting at the time, because
2:53:08
that's all you heard. The ACLU
came out and said Trump was
2:53:13
racist against Asians. Yep. And
the and I don't even know if
2:53:18
they had this. I don't think
they had this podcast out. But
2:53:20
the certainly the companies they
worked for at the time, they
2:53:23
were all like Trump's a racist,
horrible, and now they can't,
2:53:27
oh, I'm gonna do something I
don't do. I'm gonna say Trump
2:53:30
had a good handle on it. Because
at the time, we just thought,
2:53:32
Oh, he's being racist. That
means as a journalist, you suck.
2:53:36
You suck. It's unreal. Anyway,
what time is it? Oh, it's time.
2:53:45
When do we want it? Now? We want
some good news before we leave
2:53:49
the show. All right, I
2:53:51
John C Dvorak: gotta say this is
a this is the Idaho clip. And
2:53:54
this is one of those local clips
that goes on five, six minutes
2:54:00
of good news. They give me some
woman some some love. And all I
2:54:06
need is just I just all I have
here is the setup. I cut the
2:54:09
rest out where they actually go
knock on her door, and they give
2:54:11
her those these awards, because
the setup itself is good enough.
2:54:16
And it's good news II enough and
it's one of those local things
2:54:19
that could have been cut if it
was national news to be a minute
2:54:22
and a half instead as five, six
minutes. So here we go. Merry
2:54:25
Unknown: Christmas, everybody.
We are in the sweetest city in
2:54:28
Idaho. So they say sugar city.
I'm Nate Eaton with Robert Peggy
2:54:32
and Jordan. We're about to
surprise one of the sweetest
2:54:35
ladies who lives here. Her name
is Martha. She has been widowed
2:54:38
for two decades she worked hard
labor jobs like potato
2:54:42
warehouses, and she's not afraid
to get her hands dirty when it
2:54:45
comes to working. She makes
tortillas and other food
2:54:47
offerings for her neighbors.
She's constantly making new
2:54:50
friends last year without any
prompting or recognition. She
2:54:54
needed many cute owl beanies and
donated several large boxes to
2:54:58
Primary Children's Hospital in
New Utah. She lives alone, but
2:55:02
she never loses her spirit of
friendship, compassion or
2:55:05
getting? Well, Martha has had a
broken toilet for quite some
2:55:09
time. She hasn't been able to
afford to get it fixed and
2:55:12
Secret Santa asked if we could
come and make sure that toilet
2:55:15
gets fixed. He's paying for a
plumber to fix the problem and
2:55:19
get her a new toilet if she
needs it. He's also giving her
2:55:21
groceries for quite a bit $2,000
to the grocery store. And we
2:55:25
have $5,000 from Secret Santa
just to let her know that she's
2:55:29
loved. I think we should go
surprise her. Ah,
2:55:33
Adam Curry: no, that was
beautiful. News. Everyone knows.
2:55:39
Yes. Thank you. You know what
people are loving this segment,
2:55:42
John.
2:55:43
John C Dvorak: It's true. So you
know where I'm getting. I'm
2:55:45
starting to get these now from
Mimi.
2:55:48
Adam Curry: Oh, she is she's a
good news, lady, isn't she?
2:55:51
She's
2:55:51
John C Dvorak: a good news lady.
And she went and she's digging
2:55:53
up these good news stories. Oh,
2:55:56
Adam Curry: people like this
stuff.
2:56:00
John C Dvorak: Got plenty backed
up already. I got the dog in the
2:56:04
tree story coming up.
2:56:06
Adam Curry: That'll have to wait
until Sunday. I know. Everyone's
2:56:09
you're pining for it. Please.
Hold off. It'll be it'll be here
2:56:12
on Sunday the dog in the tree
story. That is it. We will
2:56:16
return on Sunday with more media
deconstruction just for you. I
2:56:19
think we gave you your money's
worth, which for many of you is
2:56:23
nothing. So Thanks for Thanks
for that. Coming to you from the
2:56:28
heart of the Texas Hill Country.
In the morning, everybody. I'm
2:56:31
Adam curry and
2:56:32
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain
2:56:35
I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:56:36
Adam Curry: Next. I know agenda
stream troll room.io. The modern
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look at that. DHH unplugged.
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It's the most recent episode
from Tuesday titled too many
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Remember us at the vorak.org/na
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Sunday, adios mofos are who we
2:56:57
are, and such.
2:57:02
John C Dvorak: To get Henry
Kissinger that Henry Kissinger
2:57:05
was he's the worst miss. He's
the worst famous guy but he's
2:57:08
the worst. He killed millions.
And he's a war criminal. Yes. He
2:57:17
was this.
2:57:20
Unknown: He has been involved in
some of the most reprehensible
2:57:23
policies on the part of the
United States, the assassination
2:57:28
of the President of Chile, a
Lendy. And the support for a
2:57:32
brutal, murderous dictatorial
regime the extending needlessly
2:57:38
of the Vietnam War, falsely
claiming in 1972, that piece was
2:57:43
at hand supporting a murderous
dictatorship in Pakistan, as
2:57:48
well as other dictators around
the world. Few
2:57:51
people have had a hand in so
much death and destruction in
2:57:55
different parts of the world
than Henry Kissinger three in
2:57:58
particular suggests that Henry
Kissinger could have been
2:58:02
accused of war crimes one is
Cambodia the other is Pakistan
2:58:06
and the other is East Timor.
2:58:08
John C Dvorak: A war criminal
what he would do it wouldn't do
2:58:12
it. It he's specifically do Do
you know, because I tried to
2:58:14
look inside do
2:58:15
Adam Curry: I do he died while
being Jewish?
2:58:29
We need we need another Jew to
blame. I don't think so. This is
2:58:35
Hillary Clinton even know where
she's walking. And there's
2:58:38
protesters. They are the
Palestinian flags
2:58:41
Unknown: bloody Hillary do
exist. It
2:58:44
Adam Curry: just existed
existed.
2:58:47
John C Dvorak: Even Jewish.
2:58:50
Unknown: As we came, we saw he
died.
2:58:56
Adam Curry: Doesn't really
matter what
2:58:57
Unknown: difference at this
point does it make?
2:59:09
Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish,
Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish,
2:59:15
Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish,
Jewish, Jewish,
2:59:20
all failed life's again. Yes,
sometimes win or lose and don't
2:59:26
want maybe down right now. At
least I don't work for Jews.
2:59:32
But the fact of the matter is
the truth needs to be told
2:59:35
10 years ago when the bathroom
situation came up.
2:59:37
The Al Qaeda wasn't wearing a
uniform. You'd see anyone
2:59:41
walking down the street they all
had man dresses on you didn't
2:59:43
know if someone had a bomb an ID
attached or not. Maybe
2:59:46
you smoke a terrorist on your
southern border. You go ahead
2:59:49
and we're rooting for you. We're
gonna smoke the terrorists on
2:59:51
our own southern border
2:59:59
to hear you can't hear you You
finish and then you get a
3:00:01
balance. That's why we have to
focus on things like cyber on
3:00:05
space on artificial
intelligence, and not just the
3:00:08
regular things that we've always
focused on. Are
3:00:10
you saying that it's time to
bomb Iran? No, I was not saying
3:00:13
it's time to bomb Iran, you
know.
3:00:18
Here's the bottom line, you
could go about it all you like
3:00:21
and continue to deny reality.
3:00:23
Buckle your seatbelts, there's
going to be a new sheriff in
3:00:25
town. Do everybody a favor, just
walk yourself off that stage
3:00:28
enjoy a nice meal and get the
hell out of this. When it comes
3:00:32
to Nikki
3:00:33
as the most obnoxious blowhard
in America and
3:00:35
the baby dive
3:00:37
to where you're just gonna put
your iPod on shuffle No, but you
3:00:43
want to know why.
3:00:45
Because every single song you
own is it is.
3:00:55
It is bang bang bang it
3:01:05
is bang bang, bang bang, bang.
Bang bang
3:01:23
John C Dvorak: bang bang. Bang
in.
3:01:26
Adam Curry: What is what is
that? It is bang, bang. Bang,
3:01:34
bang. Bang
3:01:39
Unknown: acoustic instruments
used is so, not a banger. Once
3:01:43
accidentally downloaded Lumineer
Saab had to throw away my whole
3:01:47
computer to be safe.
3:02:01
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