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John C Dvorak: comb your hair.
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Adam Curry: outdoors rhythms and
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of the Texas hill country here
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Morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and
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John C Dvorak: familiar Silicon
Valley where everybody's happy
0:25
about Hunter Biden paying his
taxes. I'm John C. Double X.
0:30
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Yeah,
yeah, everybody wishes he could
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get hookers and blow and cool
stuff and then pay the taxes.
0:40
The guy's got so much money
0:43
John C Dvorak: as me leave those
taxes or not.
0:45
Adam Curry: I don't know if he
paid his taxes or not.
0:47
John C Dvorak: That's Yes. No.
Did you think you'd know what
0:49
yeah, that's all of Fuster
making
0:52
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Is
this a lead up to a three by
0:55
three.
0:56
John C Dvorak: But we do have a
three by three regarding Hunter
0:58
Biden's taxes. That's true.
Well,
1:00
Adam Curry: shall we do it?
1:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, might as
well.
1:02
Adam Curry: That was done for
the three by three. Experiment
1:06
by Jesse. Sam. Once again,
parents don't read from ABC, CBS
1:10
and NBC. Jcv brings the
headlines from this morning
1:17
three by three from the big
three networks. And today the
1:21
headlines are are Hunter Biden,
I guess? What do we have?
1:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Hunter
Biden. They did this apology
1:30
tour by the network's have to
cover up for HUD and Hunter
1:33
Biden as best they can. Oh, no,
but they never give us any real
1:37
facts. It just kind of. It's
weird, but listen to it. And by
1:41
the way, these all seem like
they're produced by the same
1:44
White House. Same Hill and
Knowlton White House is almost
1:48
identical in the way that in the
order of presentation and the
1:52
way it ends except for the NBC
was slightly different at the
1:56
end, but the rest of them are
almost identical. It's called
1:58
the NBC NBC
2:00
Adam Curry: first in the three
by three. Tonight,
2:02
Unknown: President Biden
ignoring questions about the new
2:05
round of legal woes for his son.
Well, a nine count federal
2:08
indictment on tax charges from
Special Counsel David Weiss,
2:12
Hunter Biden facing the
possibility of 17 years in
2:16
prison. The 56 page indictment
saying he failed to pay at least
2:20
$1.4 million dollars in taxes
from 2016 to 2019. spending
2:26
millions of dollars on an
extravagant lifestyle rather
2:29
than paying his tax bills,
including on drugs, escorts and
2:33
girlfriends, such as $683,000 on
payments to various women, close
2:39
to $400,000 on clothes, and
$188,000 on adult entertainment.
2:45
Adam Curry: Papa Joe please
adopt me.
2:47
Unknown: Hunter Biden said he
was battling addiction. His
2:50
attorney saying he paid back the
taxes and the charges should not
2:53
have been brought wasn't Hunter
Biden? This would not have
2:57
happened. It comes after Weiss's
original plea deal for Hunter
3:00
Biden, which would have allowed
him to avoid prison time fell
3:03
apart under a judge's scrutiny.
The growing accusations against
3:07
Hunter Biden come as the GOP is
investigating the finances of
3:10
the Biden family, including the
President, with more Republicans
3:15
favoring the Impeachment Inquiry
already underway.
3:18
John C Dvorak: I will support it
when it comes to the floor
3:20
likely next week.
3:21
Unknown: President Biden has
repeatedly denied that he spoke
3:23
to Hunter about his foreign
business dealings
3:26
I have never discussed with my
son or my brother or anyone
3:30
else. Anything having to do with
our businesses.
3:33
A former Hunter Biden partner
told Congress President Biden
3:36
spoke to their business
associates at least 20 times the
3:40
President was pressed about it
this week.
3:42
I did not and especially a bunch
of lies, no
3:45
Adam Curry: lies, lies there
lying about it says lies. I did
3:51
not
3:51
John C Dvorak: always. All the
reports mentioned girlfriends on
3:54
top of the hookers. It's
3:56
Adam Curry: interesting. This is
this is an interesting approach.
4:01
I mean, this one yeah, he didn't
pay his taxes and then he did
4:04
pay his taxes. So that's
4:06
John C Dvorak: the beginning of
clear that up way if he No, no,
4:09
he said that
4:10
Adam Curry: he said he did pay
his taxes and that I heard your
4:12
pace diminished axis.
4:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's what
he said. What then if he paid
4:15
his taxes, what's the fuss?
Well, because it's
4:17
Adam Curry: fun to say hookers
and girlfriends, I guess and and
4:20
hookers is fun. It's
entertainment. What's there not
4:25
to like about a report like
that?
4:29
John C Dvorak: Well, for one
thing, it's not giving us the
4:30
story. Well, if he paid his
taxes, why is he what's the
4:35
point of all this?
4:37
Adam Curry: Well, okay, how
about this?
4:39
John C Dvorak: Did he pay it?
Did he pay the full amount of
4:41
taxes the payment? Did he pay
the penalties? What is it? This
4:45
is not a good story? It's not
telling us anything, but what
4:48
Adam Curry: it's doing is it's
distracting from the Impeachment
4:50
Inquiry, because all we hear is
hookers, girlfriends, drugs.
4:55
Airbnbs. Whoo. Well,
4:57
John C Dvorak: when we go to
ABC, we're here pretty much
5:00
almost an identical report,
except for the little ditty at
5:03
the end, heading out
5:04
Unknown: of the White House
today, President Biden ignoring
5:07
a barrage of questions about the
new federal indictment.
5:12
John C Dvorak: Both these all
these reports start the same
5:14
way. Biden's ignoring the
questions. Why did these guys
5:19
get together in advance of
putting these reports together?
5:22
They're structured.
5:24
Adam Curry: How about this? How
about this for thought? This is
5:26
a California issue. Am I
correct? I believe this is this
5:32
is this comes out of California
this Yeah, yeah. Well, how about
5:36
that one, it's time to get rid
of Joe time to bring in Gavin
5:38
Newsom.
5:39
John C Dvorak: Well, that's I'm
not saying that's not the case.
5:41
What I'm talking about is the
story itself. They're
5:45
identically structured, all
three networks. Do their
5:48
reporters talk with each other?
How does this happen? Oh,
5:51
please,
5:53
Adam Curry: please.
5:53
John C Dvorak: Let's go with you
started over, over. Gee,
5:58
Adam Curry: I wonder. Do you
think there's collusion? Do you
6:01
think they have the same effect?
I
6:03
John C Dvorak: don't think
there's collusion I think they
6:05
were presented with the with the
structure by the White House and
6:07
they just follow the
instructions heading
6:09
Unknown: out of the White House
today. President Biden ignoring
6:12
a barrage of questions about the
new federal indictment against
6:16
this son Hunter.
6:22
Nine count indictment.
6:25
Adam Curry: There's nothing like
that. We need to do that more
6:28
often.
6:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I love it.
6:34
Adam Curry: That's great. I love
it
6:35
Unknown: six misdemeanors and
three felony charges accusing
6:39
Hunter Biden of failing to pay
$1.4 million in taxes. From 2016
6:44
to 2019. Special Counsel David
Weiss insisting that during that
6:49
time, Biden was living an
extravagant lifestyle spending
6:53
on drugs, escorts and
girlfriends, luxury hotels,
6:57
rental properties, exotic cars,
clothing, in short, everything
7:02
but his taxes. Biden allegedly
shelling out more than $600,000
7:07
on various women, another
$397,000 on clothes, and more
7:12
than $180,000 on adult
entertainment. Why is the Trump
7:16
appointee kept on by Attorney
General Merrick Garland to
7:20
continue the probe has been
investigating 100 Biden for more
7:23
than five years. Through it all.
The President standing squarely
7:27
behind his Son
7:28
or Son has done nothing wrong.
I'm facing
7:33
Hunter Biden has since paid all
this back taxes. Today his
7:37
attorney saying if hunters last
name was anything other than
7:40
Biden, the charges would not
have been brought, adding that
7:44
the Special Counsel bow to
Republican pressure in a
7:47
recently recorded podcast heard
Biden accusing Republicans of
7:51
attack,
7:52
Adam Curry: a podcast podcast,
where's your tea man,
7:56
Unknown: but not have been
brought adding that the Special
7:58
Counsel bow to Republican
pressure in a recently recorded
8:02
podcast, Hunter Biden,
Republicans have attacking him
8:07
to undermine his father's
confidence and ability to
8:10
continue the campaign.
8:11
They're trying to destroy a
presidency. And so it's not
8:16
about me and their most bass
way. What they're trying to do
8:21
is they're trying to kill me
knowing that it will be a pain
8:26
greater than my father could be
able to handle.
8:30
Adam Curry: Wow, that was an old
clip. That's from an old
8:33
interview that that Hunter thing
at the end there.
8:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, they
brought it back. Curious how
8:40
that was dropped in the end of
this report.
8:45
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. Right.
This whatever happens next.
8:51
Okay. Yes, I think I can back
you up here. How about this?
8:56
Whatever happens next to hunter?
He will kill Joe Biden. Yes,
9:03
this is a setup. This is a setup
to a View to a Kill.
9:08
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to
CBS. Now CBS which is the WoW
9:13
got a little bit have a little
more on they. They didn't change
9:16
much structures basically the
same. The exact same clip you
9:21
just heard from Hunter will be
played again on CBS. The exact
9:25
same clip will be played on CBS.
And in the CBS report. There's a
9:30
couple of elements that you
might find missing, leaving the
9:34
Unknown: White House for
campaign stops in California.
9:41
Adam Curry: There's my favorite
again, President
9:43
Unknown: Biden ignored questions
about his son's felony and
9:46
misdemeanor tax charges. That 56
page indictment details and
9:50
alleged a four year scheme to
avoid paying at least 1.4
9:54
million in federal taxes. Hunter
Biden is charged with nine
9:58
counts including tax evasion.
and Special Counsel David Weiss
10:01
included I popping details about
Biden's alleged spending 1.6
10:06
million in cash from ATM
withdrawals 683,000 in payments
10:10
to various women, and 39,000 for
home health cleaning and child
10:15
care. This is a serious
indictment and Tom Dupree
10:18
Adam Curry: is a follow on
second. What was all that? Okay,
10:22
John C Dvorak: there's the
there's two differences right
10:24
there. One. Yeah. That besides
the fact that he took out over a
10:28
million dollars in ATM, what
does that have to do with
10:31
anything Wayman?
10:32
Adam Curry: How many? If you can
only get $300 Max for eight
10:36
notes? It's 300. Most unless
it's your own ATM, it's going to
10:40
be 300. Some even 200.
10:43
John C Dvorak: Well, you can do
the calculation. You can't get
10:44
1,000,005 or whatever. She said
10:46
Adam Curry: the machine. Okay,
how many machines Did he go to?
10:49
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
another issue. That's great.
10:51
What was the point? So they get
the ATM thing in there. And then
10:56
they also put in as though it's
a bad thing. Child care. This
11:02
CVS report is totally different.
I mean, the structure is
11:05
identical. They have the woman
screaming at the beginning. At
11:08
the end time is exactly the
same, except they add a couple
11:11
of there's a couple of twists
one name day at this ATM
11:15
nonsense. And then this
childcare thing what's that
11:20
supposed to be bad? May
11:21
Adam Curry: I add that this is
the pixie girl This is Catherine
11:24
herridge This is the CIA CBS
spokes hole. Why is she doing
11:30
this report?
11:34
Unknown: itself is a good ATM
withdrawals 683,000 in payments
11:39
to various women and 39,000 for
home health cleaning and Child
11:44
Care
11:44
Adam Curry: Home Health Home
Health What is she saying Home
11:47
Health cleaning?
11:49
John C Dvorak: She said Home
Health cleaning, home health
11:52
cleaning whatever that is.
11:55
Unknown: I'm gonna look it up
and 39,000 for home health
11:58
cleaning and child care home
health. Serious indictment Tom
12:01
Dupree is a former senior
Justice Department official.
12:04
This indictment reads like an
accounting ledger of fights and
12:07
the prosecutors spell out in
gory painful detail exactly how
12:12
Hunter Biden was spending his
money and it doesn't look good.
12:15
The indictment calls Hunter
Biden a lobbyist consultant and
12:19
business person and alleges he
earned millions for work with
12:22
the Ukrainian energy firm
Burisma Okay,
12:24
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Could this all be to show that
12:29
whatever he did, he didn't send
money. There was no 10% for the
12:33
big guy is that maybe the point
of this? Like, oh, I took money
12:37
out of the ATM a million dollars
but no 10% for the big guy. Look
12:41
at all the money he spent but no
10% for the big guy. Possibly
12:45
John C Dvorak: that's a stretch
but it is it does get triggered
12:49
it in you so it must trigger in
somebody on
12:51
Unknown: a Chinese energy firm
CFC and other foreign
12:54
businesses. More charges could
be possible. In a statement,
12:58
Hunter Biden's lawyer said based
on the facts in the law. If
13:02
hunters last name was anything
other than Biden, the charges
13:05
would not have been brought in a
podcast recorded before the
13:09
indictment. Hunter Biden blamed
Republicans for much of his
13:12
legal trouble. They're
13:14
trying to kill me and knowing
that it will be a pain greater
13:18
than my father could be able to
handle. And so therefore destroy
13:23
your presidency in that way.
13:25
Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right,
this three by three. Do you mind
13:28
if I turn it into a four by
four? By adding CNN at CNN, I
13:33
think this is the one Dana Bash,
13:35
Unknown: I want to bring in our
team of political experts to
13:38
discuss and Danna bash, I'll
13:39
start with you. You just heard
Hunter Biden before these
13:43
charges actually came out speak
about the toll on him
13:46
and his dad, not just
politically but personally. What
13:49
impact will this have on
President Biden as he campaigns
13:53
for reelection?
13:55
Well, it's already having an
impact, because it's very, very
13:59
difficult for the president for
the President's reelection
14:03
campaign to try to navigate what
is very, very, obviously
14:08
understandably personal for the
President. And it's not just
14:13
about the the indictment and the
allegations of criminal
14:18
allegations, both the new ones
in California and also in
14:23
Delaware. It is about his
addiction. And that was me, Wolf
14:27
listening to Hunter Biden say
they're trying to kill me. He
14:31
doesn't mean that
metaphorically. He means that
14:33
literally here we go because
he's an addict. And he in his
14:38
argument has been that the
reason he didn't pay his taxes
14:41
the reason he spent so much
money over a million, maybe
14:44
almost a million and a half
dollars on all of these untoward
14:50
things and more is because he
was addicted to very horrible
14:57
drugs to crack. And so what he
is saying There is they're
15:00
trying to get me to get me off
the wagon, which would destroy
15:05
my father. And you know, there,
of course, are political reasons
15:10
for this. And he did do things
that were wrong, but from the
15:16
perspective of Hunter Biden from
the perspective of his lawyers,
15:19
not so much that it deserves
this kind of attention, and
15:24
that's why they say that if his
name was anything other than
15:27
Biden, that he wouldn't be
prosecuted to the degree that he
15:31
is right now after that plea
deal fell apart in July,
15:34
Adam Curry: same script with a
little addition. I have to
15:36
remind you, Danna bash, married
to CIA guy, or a divorce from
15:42
CIA guy. This is your OP, this
is Biden's going to need to
15:46
leave. All his son has to do
doesn't actually have to die.
15:50
But But I think he's in on it.
He has to get addicted again.
15:54
All that takes is another, you
know, another treasure trove of
15:58
fresh pictures. And Biden will
lose it and we've all been
16:02
forewarned about it. And incomes
Big Mike 2024. For Gavin Newsom.
16:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't see
anything else going on here
16:17
because this is too scripted.
All three networks and then you
16:20
put CNN which was kind of a
completely different approach
16:23
but the exact same thing re it
was mashed up a little
16:28
differently. Exact same product
given to the public, and it
16:34
would go something like he gets
addicted again. The Republicans
16:37
get blamed because they're
pricks
16:40
Adam Curry: and and they want
him to fall off the wagon. Biden
16:43
John C Dvorak: has to quit
because his of his family, you
16:47
know, because of his son. He's
got his, you know, got
16:50
Adam Curry: to work out with his
son. It's more important.
16:52
Family's more important. America
important.
16:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because we
know family's more important
16:57
than this. And that and so he
looks like the good guy. Yeah.
17:00
Republicans look like the
aihole. Yes, they did this. And
17:05
Gavin Newsom,
17:06
Adam Curry: incomes Gavin or
whoever this
17:10
John C Dvorak: habit is? Well
doing it the now a couple of
17:14
things. The CBS report never
mentioned that he had paid his
17:17
taxes. That's the one thing they
left out of the script. And I'm
17:21
not sure why it was in the
script, because it doesn't help
17:26
things. It makes it muddy or
whatever the case this
17:31
something's going on with this.
And I have straight reporting on
17:34
this or seemingly so. I think
it's from NTD. And
17:38
Adam Curry: you want to hit you
want here NPR first.
17:42
John C Dvorak: And the MPAA. NPR
might Yeah, because they'll
17:44
still be in the script. And the
NTD guys aren't aren't. As far
17:49
as I know. They're not read into
anything. They're not even taken
17:55
seriously by you know, of
course.
17:58
Adam Curry: All right, let's do
NPR.
18:01
Unknown: What specific charges
is Hunter Biden facing with this
18:03
indictment?
18:04
Well, this is a nine count
indictment. It was handed up by
18:07
a federal grand jury in the
Central District of California.
18:10
The charges are related to tax
years 2016 through 2019. Three
18:14
of the counts that Hunter Biden
is facing here are felony tax
18:17
counts, one for tax evasion. Two
for filing a false return. The
18:21
other six counts are
misdemeanors, and those are for
18:24
failing to pay his taxes and
failing to file his taxes. Okay,
18:26
so
18:27
this all relates to the 2016
through the 2019 time period.
18:30
What does the Special Counsel
say that Hunter Biden was doing?
18:34
Well, prosecutors say that over
four years, Hunter engaged in
18:38
its scheme to not pay at least
$1.4 million in taxes that he
18:42
owed. It also says that he
evaded paying taxes for 2018.
18:46
Now, the indictment says that
between 2016 and 2020, hunter
18:50
made more than $7 million in
total gross and oil indictment
18:54
references business dealings in
Ukraine. business dealings
18:57
related to Connections Romania
and China really it says that
19:00
Hunter got another $1.2 million
in financial support. But
19:04
prosecutors say that Hunter
spent his money on drugs on
19:08
escorts and girlfriends on
luxury hotels, exotic cars,
19:11
among other things. Prosecutors
say In short, that 100 Biden
19:15
spent his money on his
extravagant lifestyle not on his
19:18
taxes
19:19
Adam Curry: and so I guess
they're saying that he willfully
19:21
didn't pay his taxes that's
although he had the money to
19:23
okay okay. All right now from
this NPR report, different
19:26
takeaway, not read in not part
they have they have the script
19:30
but they took a different tack.
They actually read the
19:32
indictment. The indictment says
he earned $7 million which you
19:40
know, and he spent a mitt over a
million on hookers and blow and
19:44
stuff. Okay, that still leaves a
good five and a half million
19:49
dollars. So the it's ludicrous
to say he spent his money on
19:55
hookers. He had another five and
a half million. This it's
19:58
ridiculous knowing that seems
unimportant. So the three by
20:02
three, including CNN, they are
focusing they're focusing your
20:07
attention on the hookers don't
look at the money from Ukraine
20:11
and China. That's not in their
script. And they add in Jochen
20:18
died any moment or Tikkun, he
has to retire because evil
20:22
Republicans will get Hunter back
off the off the wagon. So this
20:27
is the truth. They buried the
lede. $7 million from from China
20:33
and Ukraine. Hmm. What could be
wrong with that? Yeah, that I
20:41
think is what's really going on.
This is in di D. This is Hunter
20:46
Biden charges. Yeah,
20:50
Unknown: the president's son
Hunter Biden is facing a nine
20:53
count indictment that includes
three felony charges and six
20:57
misdemeanors. The indictment
filed by Special Counsel David
21:01
Weiss on Thursday accuses the
younger Biden of engaging in a
21:04
four year scheme to not pay at
least $1.4 million in federal
21:09
taxes from 2016 to 2019, while
spending millions of dollars on
21:14
an extravagant lifestyle,
according to the indictment, he
21:17
spent his money on drugs,
escorts and girlfriends, luxury
21:21
hotels and rental properties,
exotic cars, clothing and other
21:25
items of a personal nature. It
says in short, everything but
21:29
his taxes. Hunters lavish
spending was at its highest in
21:33
2018, reaching $1.8 million. His
four year spending spree
21:38
included over $600,000 in
payments to various women
21:42
$397,000 on clothes and
accessories and more than
21:46
$180,000 and adult
entertainment. Hunter Biden
21:51
admitted to a crack cocaine
addiction in his recent memoir.
21:54
The indictment says he described
his drug use in 2018 as 24 hours
21:59
a day smoking every 15 minutes
seven days a week in 2021. He
22:04
spoke to CBS News about that
experience. I
22:07
spent more time on my hands and
knees, picking through rugs,
22:14
smoking anything that even
remotely resembled crack
22:18
cocaine.
22:19
Special Counsel why says Hunter
Biden made millions of dollars
22:23
from foreign entities including
business dealings in Ukraine,
22:26
Romania and China and that in
2018, he continued to earn
22:30
handsomely and to quote spend
wildly Oh,
22:33
Adam Curry: thank goodness I was
about about to be very
22:35
disappointed in MTD. They put it
in there. Thank you. NTD. For
22:40
again, bearing the lead but it's
in there.
22:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the lead
you're right about during the
22:46
lead scored the second half.
Hunter
22:48
Unknown: Biden's attorney Abbe
Lowell said Thursday that if
22:51
hunters last name was anything
other than Biden, the charges
22:55
would not have been brought low
accuses Weiss of bowing to
22:58
Republican pressure hunters
business dealings are at the
23:01
center of a house.
23:03
Adam Curry: I got. So part of
the script is if his name was
23:06
anything, anything other than
Biden, no charges would have
23:11
been brought. What if his last
name was Trump? Sorry, sorry,
23:19
Abby Lowell
23:20
Unknown: accused of bowing to
Republicans pressure hunters
23:23
business dealings are at the
center of a house probe into
23:26
President Biden's involvement in
his son's foreign business
23:29
ventures. Republicans on
Thursday released a resolution
23:33
to further their impeachment
investigation of the elder
23:36
Biden. On Friday, some House
members argued for fast tracking
23:40
the floor vote on the
resolution. In light of the
23:43
recent indictment.
Representative Jason Smith told
23:46
roll call these charges further
confirmed the need for Congress
23:49
to move forward with an
impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden
23:53
in order to uncover all the
facts for the American people to
23:56
judge. House Oversight Committee
Chairman James Comer attributed
24:00
the new charges to the bravery
of two IRS whistleblowers
24:04
bravery. Two agents, Gary
Shapley and Joseph Ziegler
24:08
testified that the Department of
Justice made decisions that
24:11
benefited the president's son.
Comer said the agents put their
24:15
careers on the line to reveal
misconduct and politicization
24:19
during the probe and that the
DOJ got caught in its attempt to
24:23
shield the younger Biden. That's
another lead
24:25
Adam Curry: that was buried
everywhere else, of course.
24:28
John C Dvorak: And there's
another thing that the right
24:29
wingers, the more vert
newscasters have been bringing
24:34
up over and over, which is that
this whole thing is, and I think
24:38
it's maybe suggested by the fact
that if if he already paid his
24:41
taxes, which only two of the
three by three reporters said
24:44
they already pay these taxes,
this could go to court, just
24:48
linger, linger and prevent Biden
from testifying against his
24:54
father and the Colmar committee.
Because he's under this
24:59
indictment he can Do that he
can't do this. He can't go. He
25:02
can't test away.
25:03
Adam Curry: But what Biden can't
testify why? Because
25:07
John C Dvorak: he had to have to
plead the fifth on everything
25:09
because it would have because
he's under, because he's right
25:11
now in the middle of a case
against him. Well, can
25:14
Adam Curry: he just lie? Doesn't
seem to be beyond him at
25:20
John C Dvorak: all. Well, I
think he rather not be grilled.
25:24
Seems like a weak personalities.
Yeah. The idea is to keep him
25:28
out of the out of the comer
committee, investigate or then
25:33
the whole impeachment thing.
Keep him away? As far away as
25:36
you can get him to California.
Yeah. Take a long time on this
25:41
case. Until passed the election.
And then
25:44
Adam Curry: so California is
friendly fire in this case in
25:47
this Yeah. And then
25:48
John C Dvorak: you end up with
the and then at the end of the
25:50
day, they say, Oh, well, you
already paid your taxes. This
25:53
shouldn't have been forgotten in
the first place. Dismiss go
25:58
home, and have a nice day and
26:01
Adam Curry: then get hooked. And
we'll remove your dad later.
26:03
Yeah. I have one. Maybe this
26:06
John C Dvorak: is too this is
just as good as this is
26:08
obviously a scheme.
26:10
Adam Curry: You mean. Are you
telling me that I mean, three
26:12
networks are no good. I'm
shocked that David Axelrod on
26:19
CNN, let me see if this is a
political angle. We'll see if
26:21
there's anything in this. David
26:22
Unknown: Axelrod did the
indictment as Danna just
26:25
pointed, pointed out, a really
does paint a very damning
26:28
indictment of charges against
Hunter Biden damning. How does
26:32
this reflect on the President of
the United States? Just
26:35
Adam Curry: great look,
26:37
Unknown: it does paint a
portrait and a lot of it look
26:40
known already, Wolf, both
through other legal filings and
26:45
what Hunter Biden has said
himself, the story of his
26:49
addiction and some of the
activities that flowed from it
26:54
are very well known. But it's
important to note that it is
26:57
about Hunter Biden, it's not
about Joe Biden. There are a lot
27:01
of people in this country who
have children who have fallen to
27:04
addiction and, and despite years
of effort, there's been no
27:10
success. Why the life
27:11
Adam Curry: why the laughs He
laughs He laughs Oh, I missed
27:14
that. Yeah,
27:15
Unknown: in this country who
have children who have fallen to
27:19
addiction and, and despite two
years of effort,
27:24
Adam Curry: despite years of
effort, well, that was a subtle
27:27
John C Dvorak: one, I wouldn't
call
27:28
Unknown: it there's been no
successful in linking Biden to
27:32
any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.
So I think this is, as Hunter
27:38
described, as Danna described,
this is an emotional burden for
27:42
the President. And we'll be
going forward. I don't think I
27:46
think people can separate out,
Joe from Hunter. I don't think
27:49
this issue is, is the political
burden that perhaps some hope it
27:54
were for the president it's a
very personal burn. Absolutely.
27:56
And I think that's serious.
28:00
Adam Curry: There it is. Hey, if
I'm sorry. I mean, if you're
28:03
President of the United States,
it sucks when your son, you
28:06
know, is back on drugs and, and
back, you know, it's horrible,
28:09
because, you know, he's driving
cool cars. He's got hookers. I
28:12
mean, it's horrible. If you
can't handle that what came then
28:16
you can't be president. You
can't handle a lot of stuff. The
28:22
I'm sick as a dog, I might want
to point out
28:25
John C Dvorak: Oh, you sound
fine. Until you just mentioned
28:27
it. Now. You can hear your
congest Oh my
28:29
Adam Curry: god. And, and I have
tracked a source. This is from
28:33
the indie meetup. I've gotten
several emails. People are sick.
28:39
Remember, we had that one human
resource? you puked.
28:43
John C Dvorak: All right, right.
You had a puker we had a pure
28:46
Adam Curry: she'll never live
that down. Now a couple of guys,
28:52
and I wanted a couple guys. I
bet Well, I tested I got the Cuf
28:56
like don't test. Don't test. I
didn't test it. It's Emily.
29:01
Emily from the meetup. I blame
Emily. She was Typhoid Mary. Was
29:06
Emily the puker. No app. No one
should know Emily. No, the puke
29:09
was little kid. No, Emily. She
was in Nashville. She shows up
29:14
there cheap cheap. She even said
so. Because people email me. I
29:19
got the cough to you. You're the
germ barge. You are the germ
29:23
barge. You have to know Emily to
know that this is funny.
29:30
John C Dvorak: She's probably
loving it.
29:31
Adam Curry: I'm sure hope she
is. Speaking of Nashville.
29:36
Everyone that we know in
Nashville is safe. That was a
29:39
weird thing last night. You
heard about the tornado that
29:44
just ripped through Nashville.
Yeah. Oh man. I mean it in some
29:49
John C Dvorak: weird weather
back there.
29:50
Adam Curry: Very weird. Well,
that my my buddy Dave Jones.
29:53
He's an Alabama and he got a
part of the storm. The hail was
29:57
so fierce in Alabama. It
stripped paint off his house
30:02
John C Dvorak: that's hailed
that's
30:05
Adam Curry: that's a real hail
there, man. Oh man
30:08
John C Dvorak: he has car in the
garage.
30:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, he has an old
Ford 1930s Ford I don't think ah
30:14
John C Dvorak: you want it out
it looks cool. How'd you do that
30:18
man it's looks nice looks good.
30:23
Adam Curry: Here's ABC on the
latest just since we're talking
30:25
about oh by the way, Tina is
sick now to the course. So no
30:30
Sunday school for us. This is
the latest from ABC on on the
30:33
coop
30:34
Unknown: We turn now to the
rising COVID 19 hospitalizations
30:37
with RSV and flu cases also
taking up it comes as holiday
30:40
gatherings get into full swing
ABCs Reena Roy
30:43
is here now with more good
morning Reena
30:45
Ariel Good morning to you. Yeah,
it is that time of year again,
30:48
right a season when we're all
celebrating but also dealing
30:50
with all kinds of illnesses. We
usually hear the numbers go up
30:54
in the fall and winter because
of travel and holiday
30:56
gatherings. And this year, it is
no different. The CDC says 15
31:00
states plus New York City are
experiencing high or very high
31:04
levels of respiratory illness
activity and that
31:07
Adam Curry: respiratory illness
activity. What is that
31:11
Unknown: like a ping pong game
of respiratory illness activity.
31:15
And that means doctors are
seeing more and more people
31:18
coming in with things like
fevers and a cough or sore
31:21
throat usually from COVID. The
common cold or the flu RSV is
31:25
also on the rise and about half
an increase in flu and COVID
31:30
cases. COVID hospitalizations
have reached levels not seen
31:34
since February, particularly
among babies, young children and
31:38
older adults. However, they are
lower than rates seen at the
31:41
same time last year. Meanwhile,
health officials are also
31:44
tracking a rising coachees
breathless it's a variant called
31:48
che and why she's
31:50
John C Dvorak: hyperventilating
her report she's so jacked about
31:54
Unknown: whoever they are lower
than rates seen at the same time
31:56
last year. Meanwhile, health
officials are also tracking a
31:59
rising COVID sub variant called
J and one that's estimated to
32:03
make up more than 20% of cases
around the country. At this
32:07
time. There is no evidence that
Jn one is more severe than
32:10
previous variant no evidence,
vaccines and treatments are no
32:14
that
32:14
Adam Curry: means when there's
no evidence that means is it
32:16
there's going to be evidence.
Yes, plenty of it just not now
32:20
Unknown: more severe than
previous variants, tests,
32:22
vaccines and treatments are
still expected to be effective.
32:26
And health officials getting
your shots is the best thing you
32:29
can do. Now is actually a great
time, because it often takes up
32:34
to two weeks. Oh
32:35
John C Dvorak: my god, again.
32:37
Adam Curry: Like this is only a
one minute 30 shot. I gotta get
32:41
the vaccine promo in their
32:42
Unknown: a great time, because
it often takes up to two weeks
32:46
to reach full protection after a
dose. That is just Christmas.
32:49
Joe.
32:50
That's an important reminder.
32:51
Adam Curry: That's an important
reminder. Yes. Oh man.
32:54
John C Dvorak: I have some
important reminders from PBS on
32:57
COVID. And they did a little
better job of selling the the
33:02
vaccine.
33:03
Unknown: Okay. Just over 15% of
American adults have gotten the
33:08
latest COVID Booster Oh, demand
for the vaccine has dropped
33:12
sharply since it was first
introduced at the height of the
33:14
pandemic. That's partly because
the government's response to
33:17
COVID 19 has been so politically
charged. Woodruff spoke to
33:21
public health experts about that
government response. It's part
33:24
of her ongoing series America at
a crossroads.
33:28
In March of 2020 many Americans
were united in their fear of the
33:33
new unknown virus as people
grapple with the images of
33:37
overwhelmed hospitals and death
abroad and in the US, hopefully
33:42
it won't be much longer
33:47
but public opinion quickly
splintered as governors issued
33:51
stay at home orders to slow the
spread of the virus
33:55
has to be a choice not a mandate
33:58
Adam Curry: it's a choice not a
mandate. Oh, so they're bringing
34:01
this back. This is interesting
PBS decides now to say that this
34:05
is a political thing.
34:08
John C Dvorak: They go in this
is a whole 15 minutes I gave you
34:13
the beginning and again I'm
going to tell you what happens.
34:15
So they go on and on and on and
they break they actually redo
34:19
the entire pandemic. Fred the
historic the history of edge
34:23
what happened here and there and
everywhere in between and and
34:27
their concern is of course that
people aren't taking things
34:30
seriously enough and a lot of it
has to do the Republicans those
34:33
lousy Republican horrible and so
red state bring it back around
34:38
so we make sure that they get
the right promotions in to make
34:41
sure we get back on track. Well
how we think about the vaccines.
34:45
It she goes from person to
person to person and then and
34:49
then tops it off. And I I know
you'll get it probably.
34:53
Adam Curry: And I guess Can I
guess Trump doesn't end with
34:56
Trump. But no, no,
34:57
John C Dvorak: no, no, don't
bring me here. Here's what the
35:00
question is. She's gonna bring
on one expert after another who
35:04
knows the ropes. And then
finally get to the one guy who's
35:08
going to tell it like it is and
give us the fear mongering we
35:12
need
35:12
Adam Curry: Osterholm Of course.
Nope. Oh, that's
35:15
John C Dvorak: good. That's a
good guess. But it's not the
35:18
great guests and it's Hotep.
Yep. And
35:21
Unknown: that had deadly
consequences. According to Dr.
35:24
Peter Hotez of Baylor College of
Medicine, he researched the
35:29
human cost of the resistance to
masks and vaccines. In his new
35:33
book, The deadly rise of anti
science. The
35:37
John C Dvorak: big differential
in deaths was very much on
35:42
states where people widely
accepted vaccines and states
35:47
where people did not widely
accept vaccine. My estimate is
35:51
that 200,000 Americans
needlessly perished. Wow. He's
35:57
got no documentation for
anything other than his his his
36:02
work, his his his book. And then
he's got his book. Now. My
36:07
advice from the curry console, a
dork consulting company, is Hey,
36:12
dude, comb your hair. It doesn't
take a genius to comb your hair.
36:18
Are you married? To dates where
people did not widely accept
36:25
vaccines. Once my estimate is
that 200,000 Americans
36:29
needlessly perished because they
refused COVID vaccines after
36:33
vaccines were widely available.
A poll
36:35
Unknown: out this September
showed 91% of Democratic voters
36:40
had received at least one dose
of the COVID 19 vaccine,
36:44
compared with 66% of Republican
voters and Democrats were far
36:49
more likely to get the latest
booster. And multiple studies
36:53
show more Republican strongholds
that resisted public health
36:57
measures. And vaccinations fared
worse in terms of infection and
37:02
mortality rates.
37:04
John C Dvorak: All sets that's a
lie, total lie.
37:06
Adam Curry: There's no evidence
to that. It's a total
37:10
John C Dvorak: lie. So they're
basically lying. But they're but
37:12
they're you have to consider
their audience. They're not
37:15
lying to Republicans trying to
get get Republicans off their
37:18
ass, go get a shot. They're not
doing that. They're lying to the
37:22
Democrats to assuage them. Don't
worry, you did the right thing.
37:27
Get another shot. Oh,
37:28
Adam Curry: I mean, there's a
lot of this going on. I mean,
37:31
there's, there's Friends of the
show in California, who were
37:36
banned from all social circles.
I'm talking upper upper upper
37:40
class social circles, because
they were not jabbed. And now
37:45
and now. Like, of course, you
know, they're all back again.
37:48
Like, Oh, we didn't know silly
us mopped. I mean, in the drop
37:55
and dead, a lot of them.
37:58
John C Dvorak: That's kind of
the irony, I guess. So
38:01
Adam Curry: no, I was I was
gonna do this later in the show.
38:03
But since we're on the Cuf train
here, Bobby the opp have this
38:08
speech. It was like 40 minutes.
And it was the he was the
38:12
clearest in his speech, which is
why I even considered chopping
38:16
it up. And he blames everything
on the CIA, which of course,
38:22
knowing his background is risky
business. Everything he began he
38:29
blatantly he blames the origin
of COVID on the CIA, the Met the
38:36
the creation of COVID on the
CIA. I mean, it's it's mind
38:41
boggling what he had, and a lot
of this is from his book, and
38:44
I'm sure most people haven't
read it. The Fauci book, Fauci
38:48
book. But this is very succinct.
And then he goes into the
38:52
lockdown strategy, and I just, I
needed I need to get this out,
38:56
because it's so good. And I pick
it up, because, you know, he
39:00
goes way back to, you know, the
bio weapons treaties and how
39:05
that was halted under Nixon. And
but and it was basically was
39:10
picked up by the CIA. They went,
Oh, yeah, you put these over at
39:13
the Pentagon. We can we can
manage the bio weapons. So we
39:17
picked it up when? In September
of 2001.
39:23
Unknown: In 2001. In June, the
CIA's sponsors the first of its
39:31
pandemic simulations. It
simulates a biological attack on
39:36
Washington DC by Saddam Hussein.
This is in June 2001. That
39:42
simulation got International.
And a lot of the CIA people like
39:49
Judith Miller from the New York
Times was promoting it going
39:52
around doing all the talk shows.
It triggered two Senate
39:57
hearings, one by Joe Biden's
committee And that hearing was
40:02
in September 2001. What happened
in September 2001 911. So that
40:09
hearing was going on during 911.
As soon as 911 happened, the
40:15
neo-cons which we're working on
all this stuff that CIA, pulled
40:19
out the Patriot Act a 350 page
statute from a shelf or had been
40:24
waiting for a while. And in one
week said, we want to pass this
40:28
in a week, there's only one
member of Congress who read it,
40:31
which was done a senator. And he
went crazy. And said, You have
40:36
no idea that the end of American
democracy if you do this, it
40:40
allows the CIA to spy on
Americans. One of the things the
40:45
Patriot Act did is it did not
get rid of the Geneva
40:49
Convention, or the bio weapons
treaty, but it said no federal
40:53
official can be prosecuted for
violating those two statutes. So
40:59
it reopened the bio weapons arms
race globally.
41:02
Adam Curry: So a couple things
we learn here now we understand
41:04
why Dennis Kucinich was with him
in the beginning, and probably
41:09
the up ended, or RFK, Jr.
starts, you know, targeting the
41:15
CIA and Cassina. Just like,
dude, I'm out. I like life.
41:20
Yeah,
41:21
John C Dvorak: I'm taking a
different angle on it. Okay. I
41:24
think consensus was there to
brief him and make sure that he
41:27
was getting his message on track
on behalf of the sea. On behalf
41:31
of aspects of the CIA. I'm with
checks. Yeah. Is probably in a
41:36
schism of newbies, jerk Goffs,
old timers.
41:44
Adam Curry: Binary roles, what
do you call them? binaries non
41:48
binary. He's done.
41:50
John C Dvorak: Non binaries that
got those guys feminine. Nobody
41:52
likes. Nobody, like nobody
likes. Like, nobody likes them.
41:57
And so there's so so right now
they're trying to do something
42:00
about it. They can't Kennedy's
part of the scheme to do
42:03
something about it by drawing
attention. And he says he's
42:06
going to reorg the CIS if he
does, that means he's going to
42:09
reorg back back to the way it
was in the 50s or 60s. Although
42:13
he had good old, good old
42:15
Adam Curry: days, old days, when
they anyway, so now, so
42:20
John C Dvorak: yeah, because
he's not an idiot. So he's not
42:22
really taking a risk. I love
42:24
Adam Curry: what he's doing
here. And now he's going to take
42:26
it to Fort Dietrich.
42:27
Unknown: When the week after,
when the Patriot Act was being
42:32
debated. And it was being held
up by two senators. It was an
42:38
anthrax attack on the US
Capitol. It was blamed on Saddam
42:42
Hussein, and I don't need
consoles at sea. We were right
42:46
in the pandemic simulation,
Saddam Hussein attacked us. And
42:50
we use that as a justification
to go to war against Saddam
42:53
Hussein. And within two days, we
passed the Patriot Act who got
42:58
the anthrax to Senate offices.
Tom Dashiell and Patrick Lee,
43:04
the two senators who are
blocking the Patriot Act. The
43:09
FBI did a one year
investigation. They said this,
43:14
Anthrax was unique. It was Ames
anthrax, and there's only one
43:18
place in the world to come from
for Diedrich, the CIA lab.
43:25
Adam Curry: I love this. I mean,
it's it's all the stuff we've
43:27
been saying. But he put it
together in this one beautiful
43:30
speech. And now,
43:32
John C Dvorak: yes. And he's
more likely to know more than we
43:35
do. We go on deep on theories.
And by doing a lot of reading
43:40
and research, we have no inside
information on any of this. We
43:44
have to make sure people realize
that we're just we're just
43:46
reading. Yeah, doing what you
know, nobody has time to do when
43:50
it's time for it. And he's got
he's got people briefing him
43:55
he's a part of the system.
43:57
Adam Curry: Oh, have a system
for sure. Asa
44:01
John C Dvorak: stasis. Yeah,
he's got inside stuff that is we
44:05
can deduce. But he can no. So
44:08
Adam Curry: now 2001 This is
where we bring in Fauci. So
44:14
Unknown: we went to war, we pass
the Patriot Act, and immediately
44:18
started giving $2 billion a year
to bio weapons development. The
44:22
Pentagon didn't want to do it
because it was nervous about the
44:26
legality because it was a death
penalty to violate the Geneva
44:30
Convention. Oh, you would have
been committing a you know, a
44:35
war crime even if somebody told
you it was okay. It wasn't. And
44:40
so they funneled it through
Teatre and DARPA, They funneled
44:45
all of that money to NIH to Nia
ID which became the primary
44:53
spear tip of bio weapons
development. So Tony Fauci
44:57
became the bio weapons are in
2001. his budget went up by $2.2
45:02
billion. He was personally given
a 68% raise from the military.
45:09
That's why he was the highest
paid individual in the federal
45:11
government. So
45:13
Adam Curry: now now he goes
through a whole bunch of stuff,
45:15
which I didn't clip about, you
know how Fauci did that he the
45:18
money went through the CIA front
company, which was that that
45:22
weird organization that funny
enough, Malone came out of?
45:28
Yeah, it's like, he was involved
in that. I forget what is it
45:33
called. But anyway, doesn't
really matter because you
45:36
understand the premise. But
here's where things went wrong,
45:39
because they didn't have this
part of the plan set up. And bio
45:42
Unknown: weapons development
always includes vaccine
45:44
development. Because unlike
chemicals
45:47
Adam Curry: or eco health, that
was the place eco health that
45:50
was the the front company and
45:51
Unknown: bio weapons development
always includes vaccine
45:54
development. Because unlike
chemical weapons, with bio
45:58
weapons, there's always blowback
is called the boomerang effect.
46:02
If you give your enemy bubonic
plague, your guy's gonna get it
46:06
first, too. They're gonna get it
quickly. So the only way you can
46:11
deploy a bio weapons if you have
already developed a vaccine, so
46:16
the race is to develop a vaccine
simultaneously, weapons and then
46:20
you can deploy the bio weapons
and your enemy will take a
46:24
couple of years to develop the
vaccine. And you can inoculate
46:29
all of your team.
46:31
Adam Curry: So clearly, we
didn't have those ready because
46:34
you know, the, the virus escaped
I don't think it was a really a
46:38
truly weaponized virus, the more
people died of fear of being,
46:43
you know, put on a ventilator.
And old people die from flu. So
46:47
many of the numbers show was not
it was about the same as as a
46:50
regular flu year. So it was just
fun for him to connect that but
46:54
then, and this is the one that
blew me away, because I had just
46:58
mentioned maybe two three weeks
ago, but I felt that social
47:01
media was like when a big
Milgram experiment. And then all
47:06
of a sudden, Bobby the opp
continues with his CIA breeding
47:14
of the CIA takes it straight
into MK Ultra, Operation
47:19
Paperclip, you know, all the
things that are that were
47:21
conspiracy theories when we were
talking about him 10 years ago.
47:26
And part of the reason Alex
Jones has been thrown off the
47:29
media planet, although he seems
to be coming back since this
47:31
Tucker interview, which is
interesting. And I'm happy for
47:34
him. So then he brings in the
Milgram experiments, you know,
47:38
Unknown: I have I know a lot
about the CIA, I've gotten their
47:41
manuals, I paid over $1,000 Just
get these manuals because you
47:46
know, their training manuals
from MK Ultra, and they'll
47:50
Adam Curry: pay a grand where
are these? eBay? Where can I get
47:54
these? That's worth it. Yeah,
47:56
Unknown: we'll publish them. H
stands for mind control. MK
47:59
Niomi. On MK Dietrich, that all
came out of 40s. We're going to
48:03
NIH, and 150 colleges around our
country where they were funding
48:09
these studies. And if you look
at what they do in these
48:12
simulations, they're using all
of these techniques that they
48:16
developed in colleges, college
laboratories, social scientists
48:21
and other scientists, medical
scientists for years who were
48:23
studying, how do you control
individual behavior, but also
48:26
mass behavior? How do you how do
you induce mass psychosis? How
48:31
do you create Manchurian
candidates? You know, how do you
48:34
do all these? All these colleges
setting these and and how do
48:39
you? How do you impose
centralized foreign control on
48:45
indigenous populations? I coming
into a country by using
48:49
propaganda by using fear of
bias, sowing chaos by destroying
48:55
relationships, destroying faith
in institutions, driving people
48:59
apart and creating chaos. So
they will invite in on authority
49:04
who will give them peace and
safety? And all of them. All of
49:08
these Mind Control techniques
are designed to accelerate that
49:13
process.
49:15
Adam Curry: Does that sound
familiar to anybody? Perhaps?
49:19
Does that sound familiar? That's
this propaganda and so fear, and
49:25
does that sound a bit like 2020?
And then he explains the Milgram
49:30
experiment, but
49:30
Unknown: one of the most
interesting experiments was
49:33
called the Milgram Milgram, and
it was assigned to associate
49:41
scientists at Yale sociologists
called Stanley Milgram, who was
49:46
a who was part of the MK Ultra
program. And he was he conducted
49:52
this experiment where he where
he recruited subjects from every
49:58
walk of American life If it were
students or professors or
50:02
business people or blacks,
whites, everybody from the New
50:05
Haven area, and he would put the
subject in a chair at a table,
50:10
whether it was a dial in front
of them, that they could
50:12
administer an electric shock to
a person who is tied in the
50:16
chair, and the next room, who
they told was tied in the chair,
50:20
but he was actually a
confederate of Milgram, he was
50:22
an actor. And when they turn
this dial up and administer this
50:26
oppose electric shock, they
could hear the man in the other
50:29
room screaming, shouting,
begging, struggling, pleading
50:33
with them crying, and most of
the people who are participating
50:38
in this experiment, they had to
stop a lot of work crying, and
50:43
telling the doctor the doctor
was standing behind them saying,
50:46
Turn it up, turn it down, turn
it higher, turn it down, turn it
50:49
even higher, turn it down, and
67% of them turned it up to 250
50:56
volts, where it was marked,
potentially fatal.
51:00
Adam Curry: So this would be let
me see Jimmy Kimmel let him die.
51:05
Don't let him come in. Die,
Republicans die anti vaxxers
51:09
Die, die, but they needed one
thing. They needed the man in
51:15
the lab coat, because that's how
the Milgram experiment literally
51:19
worked. It's on YouTube, you can
take a look at it. I put the
51:22
link in the show notes. You can
see the guy has a lab coat and
51:25
when there's someone with a lab
coat, think Anthony Fauci
51:29
John C Dvorak: who says, Why is
Anthony Fauci ever wearing a lab
51:33
coat or anybody is on TV? By the
way that they when I played
51:39
those clips of Judy Woodruff are
doing the report with the Hotez?
51:42
What did you think he's wearing
51:43
Adam Curry: lab coat? Yep. So
67% was willing to fry their
51:50
fellow Americans, which my dear
friends, producers and trolls,
51:55
leaves an exact beautiful 33%.
That's you 33%
52:02
Unknown: of the people got up
and walked out. And what Milgram
52:06
said, The if you for 67% of
people, if you have an authority
52:11
figure, and has I'm an amateur
of legitimacy, like a doctor's
52:16
title, that 67% of people will
take his orders, even if it
52:21
means violating their most
sacred values. They'll go
52:25
against everything they believe
in. And to me, it occurred to me
52:29
many times during that 2020, we
were all involved in this huge
52:34
Milgram experiment. And that
Anthony Fauci was, you know, Dr.
52:38
Milgram telling us you can
violate the Constitution, you
52:42
can censor speech, you can close
churches, you can shut
52:45
businesses, you can bend jury
trials, and you can, you know,
52:49
tell people what they can and
can't do and you can gaslight
52:54
them and marginalize them and
vilify them and, and you know,
52:58
that no cruelty is too great.
53:00
Adam Curry: Hope everyone feels
good. And and we also finally
53:02
understand the magic number. We
are the magic number 33. That's
53:07
the magic. The magic number
three, sadly, we still have to
53:15
pay our taxes. But otherwise,
that's it. That's why we exist.
53:20
That is our fate in life. 3%
53:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Key key
code and code, My Friend Code
53:34
big code for we don't know what?
Well, that brings me to this
53:38
continuation of what's going on
in that regard. And that has to
53:43
do with the one day dictator
Donald
53:46
Adam Curry: Trump. Oh, yes. Just
for one day.
53:50
John C Dvorak: And by the way, I
was watching some news coverage
53:53
this morning. And then Juan
Williams was on Fox where he
53:58
said and Donald Trump said he's
going to be the dictator from
54:03
day one, though.
54:04
Adam Curry: That's wrong. Juan
Juan Williams, I thought he was
54:06
kicked off of Fox back.
54:08
John C Dvorak: I guess it
brought him on, he said and he
54:10
said that it was corrected by
one of the other panelists said
54:14
only for one day, so yeah, okay.
54:17
Adam Curry: He's a propagandist.
He's great. This is this is
54:20
John C Dvorak: the this is the
way this is going to be played.
54:23
Because it's actually incredible
to me, but Jim Acosta has a show
54:27
on CNN.
54:29
Adam Curry: You're kidding.
Really. We've never seen this
54:31
show. It is a goldmine.
54:35
John C Dvorak: It's probably the
worst thing that you've ever
54:37
seen, because Jim Acosta has no
personality whatsoever. He sits
54:43
there stone faced, and he just
kind of reads from the prompter.
54:48
He's he's really an reporter who
shouldn't be in the field. He is
54:51
not a host. He's no good, but
they have him on there and which
54:55
really makes me wonder what
discovery who owns CNN now at
55:00
which is major shareholders,
John Malone is one right winger.
55:04
Adam Curry: This this guy, Jim
Acosta. He's one of the last few
55:07
brand names they have.
55:10
John C Dvorak: What the brand
name and he's sure no good as a
55:13
host of saying, you
55:14
Adam Curry: know, from a media
perspective, that's all the he's
55:18
recognizable. Let's put it that
way. You can
55:22
John C Dvorak: find people. So,
55:25
Adam Curry: hey, they kicked out
Don Lemon, they kicked out the
55:28
Cuomo kid. They kicked everybody
out.
55:32
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
understand how they didn't kick
55:34
this guy out. So this but this,
this is the beginning of his
55:37
show. It's called CNN news hour
or something. And this is the
55:40
very beginning. And let's see, I
got these are four short clips.
55:44
And they're just their jaw
droppers.
55:46
Unknown: You're live in the CNN
Newsroom. I'm Jim Acosta in
55:49
Washington. We begin this hour
with perhaps the harshest
55:51
warning yet. From President
Biden about his likely
55:54
Republican rival for the White
House. The President told a
55:56
fundraiser in California late
last night that Donald Trump
56:00
would destroy American democracy
if he somehow wins back the Oval
56:04
Office. Biden said to the crowd
quote, The greatest threat Trump
56:07
poses is to our democracy. The
President went on to slam
56:11
Trump's role in the January's
six attack on US Capitol saying,
56:15
quote, it's despicable. Simply
despicable Biden also referred
56:19
to Trump's comments on Fox
earlier this week, when the
56:22
former President was asked
whether he wants to become an
56:24
American dictator. Here's what
Trump told Fox.
56:29
John C Dvorak: Under no
circumstances, you are promising
56:32
America tonight. You would never
abuse power as retribution
56:37
against anybody except for day
one. Except
56:40
Unknown: he's going crazy.
Except for day one, meaning I
56:43
want to close the border. And I
want to drill
56:46
John C Dvorak: that's not
that's, that's not.
56:48
Unknown: Now if there was any
doubt about what Trump meant the
56:51
host Sean Hannity gave him a few
chances to step back from those
56:54
extreme words, but Trump did not
love this
56:57
guy. He says you're not going to
be a dictator. Yeah.
56:59
I said, No, no, no. Other than
day one.
57:02
We're closing the border. And
we're drilling drilling drilling
57:05
after that I'm not. As we've
noted on this program for weeks,
57:09
Trump has repeatedly promised to
seek vengeance against his
57:12
political enemies, praising the
leaders of China and North Korea
57:15
and also promising to vastly
expand presidential powers
57:18
leading to headlines like these
the Atlantic writing that Trump
57:21
isn't bluffing and will follow
through on his threats,
57:24
including investigating the
price for treason, mass roundups
57:27
and detention centers for
undocumented immigrants.
57:30
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, he
didn't say any of that. He
57:34
didn't say any of that. Was
there more to the Hannity show
57:36
that we missed? No, no, he
didn't say any of that he
57:41
John C Dvorak: did in the past
Sunday time in the past and said
57:43
this is putting it all together.
Horrible package now. Now. The
57:50
second clip here is a discussion
of one of the big meetups that
57:54
Biden had in LA where he made
these comments. And it's funny,
58:00
again, I'll bring it up all the
time. They keep telling us that
58:03
Trump's full of it he says one
thing he does another he's a
58:07
liar. He's a liar, liar, but yet
we take him very seriously when
58:10
he says he's going to be a
dictator for one day.
58:13
Adam Curry: This is your thing.
I like it a lot. This is
58:15
perfect. He's a liar. He's
58:17
John C Dvorak: make up your mind
except
58:18
Adam Curry: when he says stuff
that we want you to believe he's
58:21
not a liar. So
58:23
John C Dvorak: this is kind of
interesting that this clip is
58:25
too long, I'm sorry for that is
not over the time limit, which
58:28
is two minutes. So if anyone out
there wants to know the time
58:31
limit, yes. But it's long
because it takes forever to get
58:34
to the point that I want to I
wanted to make which is that
58:37
Hollywood's a bunch of douche
bags led by famous douchebags in
58:42
Unknown: Athens Kevin Liptak is
live in Los Angeles for us as
58:45
the President is in the midst of
a weekend fundraising trip in
58:47
California. Kevin, I imagine the
President's words must have
58:51
gotten folks by surprise at that
fundraiser. What more is he
58:54
saying? Yeah,
58:55
he is really ramping up these
warnings about what President
58:58
Trump might do if he returns to
office and certainly the very
59:01
start nothing less than the
future of American democracy is
59:04
at stake, according to President
Biden. Now when it comes to that
59:08
remark that Trump made about
being a dictator, President
59:11
Biden deployed some rueful humor
saying thank God only one day
59:15
but certainly later on really
underscoring the potential for
59:19
another Trump presidency is no
laughing matter telling these
59:22
democratic donors literally, I
believe the future of American
59:26
democracy is at stake the
greatest threat Trump poses to
59:30
our democracy because if we lost
that, we lose everything. And
59:35
you really are starting to see
President Biden really honing
59:38
his attacks on Trump fine tuning
his arguments at these
59:42
fundraisers, these off camera
fundraisers, giving him a chance
59:46
to sort of test some material
will be a central argument of
59:51
his reelection campaign next
year. And certainly there are
59:54
some Democrats who want
President Biden to be more
59:57
forceful about President Trump
to make this our Clement
1:00:00
publicly and when you talk to
campaign aides, they do say that
1:00:03
that moment is coming that
President Biden will begin to
1:00:06
sharpen his rhetoric, but they
want to wait until they're sure
1:00:09
that Americans are paying
attention. They don't want this
1:00:12
falling on deaf ears. And you
can imagine that these arguments
1:00:16
will make their way into
television ads, digital ads, of
1:00:19
course, that will cost a lot of
money. And that is why President
1:00:21
Biden is out here in Los
Angeles, raising money at two
1:00:25
important fundraisers one last
night with some Hollywood
1:00:28
heavyweights. You know, I was
talking to Jeffrey Katzenberg,
1:00:30
he's the co chair of the Biden
campaign, a movie mogul, he said
1:00:34
this 36 hours will be the most
successful when it comes to
1:00:37
campaign fundraising for
President Biden since he
1:00:39
launched his campaign in the
spring Jim
1:00:42
Adam Curry: goodness,
Katzenberg, Katzenberg Berg
1:00:49
John C Dvorak: and you can be
sure Rob Reiner was there. Oh,
1:00:51
yeah. Hey, Katzenberg.
1:00:53
Adam Curry: How's that? What was
that short form video thing that
1:00:55
he poured $2 billion into and
failed out of the gate? What was
1:00:58
that thing called?
1:01:00
John C Dvorak: I can't remember.
Remember that. I remember it. It
1:01:02
was
1:01:03
Adam Curry: trolls. What was
that? It was a turd. It was a
1:01:05
big turd. Because he's so smart.
You know,
1:01:09
John C Dvorak: the Jim Acosta
show and CNN, we have to balance
1:01:12
you know what you want to do.
When you do these kinds of
1:01:14
reports. You're the host. You
bring somebody in and gives you
1:01:17
a report is on one side. So
normally what you do is you
1:01:20
bring somebody in with maybe a
different perspective.
1:01:26
Adam Curry: Now, why did we do
that? Oh, by the way the trolls
1:01:29
want us to mention Yes, we know
Norman Lear died. be asked. We
1:01:34
were the ones that told you
about the Hollywood foundation.
1:01:36
Yes, we know. We didn't mention
it. Last show was big over so
1:01:40
no,
1:01:40
John C Dvorak: we didn't miss
it. Norman Lear die. What? Okay.
1:01:42
We mentioned it. He was I looked
at my when I talked to me about
1:01:48
it. I said, you know, they've
obviously run out of
1:01:50
Adrenochrome down in LA quibi.
Queen. I mean, that's what
1:01:54
Biden's down there for he's
trying to get some and they
1:01:57
can't find any quibi
1:01:58
Adam Curry: I think quibi quibus
quibi. That's short form. Tube
1:02:02
tarde. tarde to quibi quibus I
don't know Yeah. Anyway, yes.
1:02:08
Audrina Chrome. Yes, that's why
Biden's there. Well, it hasn't.
1:02:11
It hasn't helped. Well, so we
got
1:02:15
John C Dvorak: so we got the
opportunity now to bring
1:02:18
somebody in to give us some
perspective. Okay, here we go.
1:02:21
All right.
1:02:22
Unknown: Kevin Liptak reporting
from LA forest. Kevin, thank you
1:02:25
very much. Let's continue the
conversation right now. Joining
1:02:28
me now is the niece of former
President Trump, Mary Trump.
1:02:31
Mary, great to have you back on
the program. Really appreciate
1:02:34
your time. You heard what
1:02:36
Adam Curry: I know you're so
busy doing. Appreciate your
1:02:40
time.
1:02:41
Unknown: The President was
saying last night at this
1:02:42
fundraiser in California seizing
on what Donald Trump has been
1:02:46
talking about recently, and I
just wanted to get your reaction
1:02:49
to what Trump was saying on Fox
the other night, a dictator but
1:02:52
only on day one. What was your
reaction when you heard that
1:02:55
we need to take Donald at His
Word? To a certain point. We can
1:03:01
ignore the second half of that
statement. Dictor taters last I
1:03:05
checked, don't stop being
dictators. And he has every
1:03:09
intention of destroying American
democracy. And we need to be
1:03:14
clear why it's entirely for his
own benefit. Nothing about this
1:03:19
is ideological. So in that
context, it was it was really
1:03:24
heartening to hear President
Biden be so direct about what's
1:03:29
facing this country, I agree
that it is too early to assume
1:03:33
that people are paying
attention. And we don't want
1:03:37
that argument to get normalized,
which is been part of the
1:03:41
problem the last seven years,
almost everything Donald does
1:03:44
seems to be normalized. But
we've seen what he's done in the
1:03:48
past. And I think what he's
starting to do now is push the
1:03:52
envelope and get people familiar
with the concept of his
1:03:57
dictatorial tendencies, so that
they just write it off the way
1:04:01
they've written off all of his
other egregious anti democratic
1:04:04
behavior. Oh,
1:04:05
Adam Curry: she forgot to
mention five d chess. I mean,
1:04:08
yes, this is so smart. He's, he
said, Build the wall and drill
1:04:12
drill drill. But this is really
about him being a dictator for
1:04:16
himself. Because when you
destroy America, it's great for
1:04:19
business.
1:04:20
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is, is that, do any
1:04:23
of these people have any sense
of how the American system
1:04:26
works? It's gotten three, it's
balanced. It does not work where
1:04:33
some guy can just waltz in and
but we are describing it and
1:04:38
just decide to be the dictator.
We
1:04:40
Adam Curry: saw this because
Trump certainly didn't deliver
1:04:43
on all the things he said he
would. And what these people are
1:04:47
doing is projecting because they
know that they are the ones who
1:04:51
will hang. That's what's going
on. Oh, is this guy comes in,
1:04:54
we're in trouble. I mean, not
marry Trump. I mean, they'll
1:04:59
marry
1:04:59
John C Dvorak: Trump says Stage,
but the fact that she's even Who
1:05:02
is she? I mean, she's just some
Brando. But let's, when
1:05:06
Adam Curry: you have a podcast,
a cable podcast, you might as
1:05:09
well bring in the randos.
1:05:11
John C Dvorak: So you have a so
let's let her finish up with her
1:05:15
doubling down on this whole
thing. So we can see the real
1:05:18
logic at play here. And the
insanity of these Democrats in
1:05:25
general,
1:05:26
Unknown: that leads me to this
question, Marian, that is, I
1:05:28
mean, do you think Trump would
stop on day one? I mean, to say
1:05:30
he would only be a dictator on
the first day, I suppose if
1:05:33
you're the dictator on the first
day, you could say, well,
1:05:35
tomorrow I'll be dictator to
because you're the dictator at
1:05:37
that point.
1:05:38
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great
logic, Jim. I
1:05:39
Unknown: mean, what do you think
does you stop on day one,
1:05:42
every day, from then on, we'll
be day one. Let's put it that
1:05:46
way. He has no intention of
stopping. He knows why he needs
1:05:50
to get back into the White
House. Those reasons won't
1:05:53
disappear on a day two or day
100. So we have to take this
1:06:00
threat incredibly seriously. And
part of the threat isn't just
1:06:05
Donald's rhetoric. It's the
reception that rhetoric
1:06:08
receives, we heard the laughing
and the cheering. In that
1:06:12
audience. We hear what his
sycophants and enablers like
1:06:17
Sean Hannity and like
practically every single elected
1:06:20
member in Congress, who is
Republican is willing to put up
1:06:25
with is willing to allow and is
willing to support
1:06:29
Adam Curry: sycophants. That's
interesting. That's a talking
1:06:31
point. I'll get to it in a
minute. Okay, Why is Trump
1:06:37
saying drill drill drill the ran
on the wall in 2016. I think
1:06:42
it's weak. Honestly, I think
it's weak. I think by now people
1:06:45
have just figured out that it
doesn't have as much to do with
1:06:48
a wall as it does with parole.
And I'll give that to Lindy Hop,
1:06:55
parole, catch and release etc. I
mean, it's the policy, it's not
1:07:00
the wall. It's the policy, the
policy and and that the agency
1:07:03
that's in charge of it just
follows up. The oil oil thing is
1:07:08
a direct drill drill drill
thing, sorry, is a direct
1:07:11
counter to Nikki Haley. I had
dinner with the oil baron. As
1:07:14
promised. Ah, here we go. The
Texas oil baron who has actually
1:07:20
met with Nikki Haley, and has
shown her around the oil fields.
1:07:25
She had good questions. And she
according to him, she is big oil
1:07:31
all the way. Why are you doing
this? I said, he said I need a
1:07:37
backup plan. Understandable.
1:07:42
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
way, I got confused with the way
1:07:45
you put that. Oh, if Claudia she
asked him he asked her what? No.
1:07:49
Why are you doing that you
1:07:51
Adam Curry: asked him was? That
was me asking him why are you
1:07:54
asking him? Yes. Why is he doing
what? Why are you pandering to
1:07:58
Nikki Haley? Why are you getting
her? I don't want to be fair. I
1:08:02
don't know. I don't know if he
supported financially, but
1:08:05
certainly his other billionaire
buddy did.
1:08:08
John C Dvorak: A lot of
billionaires are in on Nikki
1:08:10
Haley. And he's also
1:08:11
Adam Curry: an oil guy, the
Hatter out he had a big
1:08:14
fundraiser out at the ranch. His
friend. So my friend the oil
1:08:19
baron says we need a backup plan
in case something happens to
1:08:22
Trump. Because he knows that
Trump is is all in on Big Oil in
1:08:27
drilling etc. And I think that's
why Trump is doubling down drill
1:08:31
drill drill drill drill oil,
guys, don't worry, I got you
1:08:34
covered yet.
1:08:35
John C Dvorak: Don't give her
any more money. Yes,
1:08:37
Adam Curry: exactly. I got you
covered. It's all going to be
1:08:39
good. Now. He didn't mention
something else. He is very
1:08:44
confused and very mad at
something you brought up. The
1:08:48
methane leaks. He says the
methane leaks are bull crap.
1:08:55
They send you a report. And it's
just an algo. He said they run
1:08:59
an algorithm. We have no methane
leaks. And if we hadn't, we'd
1:09:02
love to know exactly where they
are. Because we'd like to plug
1:09:05
those up. He says they just send
them a report that has
1:09:09
algorithms and says Well,
according to our algorithm, you
1:09:12
have methane leaks, and here's
what you have to pay in fines.
1:09:16
Oh, interesting. And then he
said, Where does the money go?
1:09:21
This is this is the face you're
saying? Well, this is also
1:09:24
Andrew Horowitz this thing where
does the money Oh is always
1:09:27
wondering where the where does
the money go? And I said, Well,
1:09:29
here's what I know how it works
in the finance industry. What
1:09:33
happens? And I said this is a
tip is a tip for you. What you
1:09:37
do is you say oh, okay, well,
how because the bank guys, they
1:09:42
do these deals with the
Department of the Treasury. So I
1:09:44
don't know how this works for
the Department of Energy. They
1:09:46
do a deal. I say, Well, what
we'll do is we'll give all this
1:09:50
money this, you know, so it's
let's say it's $25 million in
1:09:53
fines. We'll give that to these
nonprofits. They see and then
1:09:59
the Treasury for banks by in
this case do II I guess would
1:10:02
say, Okay, give that to those
guys and what happens you just
1:10:06
gave $25 million to nonprofits
you get the write that off of
1:10:10
your taxes. Nice. That's how it
typically works. So anyway, the
1:10:16
the oil guy, oil baron, my
friend will keep me updated on
1:10:22
progress and he had one other
thing for me. Which I want to
1:10:25
let you know. He goes hunting on
King Ranch once a year. And he
1:10:33
comes home with I got to look it
up with Neil guy. And I L G AI
1:10:41
nilgai. Have you heard of this
animal?
1:10:45
John C Dvorak: No, it's like it.
I
1:10:46
Adam Curry: have heard of auric
it's not orange and you're in
1:10:49
Texas, not Oryx, but it is it is
one of those antelope like
1:10:53
animals. He's he's gonna give us
a whole bunch of nilgai meat
1:10:58
products now. Okay, good. So and
I'll send some to you too, cuz I
1:11:02
know you're gonna love. It's
just It's sad. He said, it's
1:11:04
beautiful. It's just like He
says very similar to Oryx and,
1:11:08
and an antelope. So excited. And
1:11:11
John C Dvorak: it looks
delicious. I've had that. So
1:11:14
what did he have any dispute
with my analysis of the oil
1:11:18
loss, or the methane loss or
anything, which I said, why, you
1:11:22
know, the refineries don't like
this because if this happening,
1:11:25
then they're losing product.
They're losing money.
1:11:28
Adam Curry: Not Well, no, he,
not only does he agree with you,
1:11:30
he says it's not true. He says
they're just sending him a
1:11:33
report that hasn't been renewed
that okay, no, it's not true
1:11:38
bullcrap you please show me
where the leak is. We'll go and
1:11:41
plug it. We'd love to know where
that is.
1:11:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, doesn't
make sense. Yeah. I mean, you
1:11:47
run a refinery there's not I
mean, there's a lot of horrible
1:11:50
product has gone here and there
every which way. And you can
1:11:54
walk through a refinery right
now and you won't smell
1:11:56
anything. There's no no smell of
anything. And if you do smell
1:12:00
something, there's an issue that
has to be taken care of
1:12:03
immediately.
1:12:04
Adam Curry: Of definitely that
this oil baron. He's a
1:12:07
sweetheart i love this guy. This
is he's going to be one for the
1:12:10
show for a long time.
1:12:11
John C Dvorak: No good. He
straighten this out.
1:12:14
Adam Curry: He will definitely
straighten this out. Especially
1:12:16
I got a I got a note from atomic
rod Adams. And he's back and I
1:12:21
don't know what's happened, man.
He's like, I love you guys. You
1:12:25
know, I know. I've been away for
a while. He's been away for a
1:12:27
long time. He sent me a whole
explainer. But he says I just
1:12:31
have one disagreement with you.
Climate change is real. I'm
1:12:33
like, oh my god, they got to
him. I think they got to atomic
1:12:36
rod. Something happened there.
And he's all in on on manmade
1:12:43
climate change. Now he sent me I
struck back I said dude, don't
1:12:49
do this to me. We'd love it. We
love nuclear we're on your we're
1:12:52
on board with you. You don't
have to spy on me with this
1:12:55
stuff. I want us to know that's
very very rare very very real.
1:12:59
So I'm going to read through his
his argumentation because we owe
1:13:02
him that because he's atomic
rather than
1:13:04
John C Dvorak: getting your
senator some counter material.
1:13:06
He's obviously not getting it.
Now he
1:13:08
Adam Curry: has material but he
said he answered me this
1:13:10
morning. So I haven't read
through it because it's long
1:13:12
anyway. That was just surprised
like, oh, man, it's like, you
1:13:16
know, well, maybe one door
closes atomic rod oil baron. One
1:13:21
door opens up.
1:13:22
John C Dvorak: I will I want to
do a quick Mia culpa ended
1:13:25
discuss just for one second. The
testimony of the three college
1:13:30
presidents. Yes, the MIA culpa,
is I said Penn State at least
1:13:36
once
1:13:37
Adam Curry: Gosh, people were
like, tell John is UPenn I'm
1:13:41
like, I'm not as assistant.
1:13:45
John C Dvorak: Why do people I
got a couple notes. How but
1:13:47
Adam Curry: most people think
that I am your intern. And
1:13:53
John C Dvorak: you bitched about
this constantly. We don't need
1:13:55
to hear it again.
1:13:56
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, I do
stop is John at the Vortech dot.
1:13:59
You know what the answer when I
say email him, he never answers.
1:14:01
Yeah, well, there you go.
1:14:06
John C Dvorak: I answer mostly I
mostly answered but they didn't
1:14:08
answer to the dame that word
poet Baronet test of the rhyming
1:14:13
line sent an email she happens
to be a an executive at the
1:14:21
professional staff at Berkeley.
Oh, and she's she called me out
1:14:28
on my whole analysis about the
three presidents and nobody else
1:14:33
has brought any of what I'm
going to read from her up at
1:14:36
all. And I realized this is
exactly right. She says that you
1:14:42
should go with our comms razor.
There was no conspiracy. The
1:14:45
presidents of Harvard, Penn
UPenn and MIT were stymied by
1:14:49
their own wokeness how one title
nine laws as a professional
1:14:56
staff in higher education, the
presidents of Harvard and the
1:14:59
rest of Have you all received
hours long training you've read,
1:15:02
you don't take these trainings I
have for various things,
1:15:06
harassment, whatever. But I
guess these people will take
1:15:09
training on Title Nine. And what
constitutes harassment and
1:15:13
bullying according to Title
Nine, these trainings make it
1:15:17
very clear that it would be
considered harassment behavior
1:15:20
must be quote, pervasive, severe
and persistent. Not a single
1:15:26
instance, a single instance may
not be enough to constitute
1:15:30
harassment. It has to be a one
single event or two pervasive
1:15:36
and persistent. So if a stupid
freshman yells genocide to Jews
1:15:41
in an auditorium class and runs
out the door that will be
1:15:43
written off as a young kid being
stupid. They wish he goes on and
1:15:47
on with this, just describing
Title Nine as being there were
1:15:51
caught up in it, and they were
trying to beat around the bush
1:15:54
about context. And I retorted
with her, I said, what about
1:15:59
this, if these women were so
handcuffed? That's what it seems
1:16:04
like they were handcuffed by
Title Nine because they could
1:16:07
get sued for not following Title
Nine, which was presented and
1:16:12
produced by our government, they
should have said I on this
1:16:16
onstage, I can answer a yes or
no question like that, because
1:16:21
I'm, I'm handcuffed by Title
Nine, something you Congress has
1:16:27
approved and made me abide by?
Well, first of all it right back
1:16:31
at him. Okay.
1:16:32
Adam Curry: Couple things. It is
now known that the UPenn Lady
1:16:39
and the Harvard lady not the MIT
lady had $1,500 An hour lawyers
1:16:45
prepping them for two days. So
that's so yeah, that comes back
1:16:49
to Title Nine. But that's where
all that went wrong. They were
1:16:52
loitered up, and they were
reading their scripts. And
1:16:54
that's why those two were, were
their answers were similar. I
1:16:59
think the MIT lady went, Oh,
that's good.
1:17:01
John C Dvorak: I'll jump in on
it. Lady was said nothing. But
1:17:04
Adam Curry: here's so I wanted
to get an alternative opinion
1:17:08
from liberal intellectual
elites. Because it's much more
1:17:12
fun to figure out what the other
side of thinking is thinking.
1:17:17
And blow and behold, my hatless
and twice a week did not
1:17:21
disappoint. Of course, I'm
talking about pivot with the
1:17:26
illustrious Kara Swisher, who
has a mouth on her Oh, my God,
1:17:31
she drops more F bombs than I
ever have. But that's not who
1:17:35
we're talking about today.
Today, it is Prof. G. You know
1:17:39
him as the professor from New
York University professor in
1:17:42
marketing. who is a Jew, I'm
sorry, who happens to be Jewish.
1:17:49
And he had a very fun, no
agenda, like take on these
1:17:56
presidents. In particular. Now
he's talking about gay president
1:18:00
gay of Harvard.
1:18:01
Unknown: Oh, I thought it was
embarrassing for them. They came
1:18:03
across as weak and overlawyered.
They were clearly coached to try
1:18:08
and seem empathetic but say
nothing. New SmartKey. And, and
1:18:13
I just want to read a statement
that President gay put out. She
1:18:19
said, like many of you I've
watched in pain and horror, the
1:18:23
events unfolding triggered by
callous and depraved actions. We
1:18:27
have been here before too many
times. And that familiarity is
1:18:30
part of the heartbreak and
outrage of this moment, even as
1:18:34
a global fight against pandemic
has forged new bonds and
1:18:36
inspired new acts of profound
generosity. We are confronted
1:18:38
again by old hatreds, and the
enduring legacies of racism and
1:18:43
inequality. So she put it that's
a powerful statement. It's
1:18:47
accurate. But she was writing
about George Floyd or the murder
1:18:52
of George Floyd. And that is
these presidents have in
1:18:55
unequip? He
1:18:55
Adam Curry: did. He didn't know
agenda switcheroo. This was a
1:18:58
good one. Yes, Lloyd.
1:19:00
Unknown: And that is, these
presidents have an unequivocal
1:19:03
and strong and resolute about
other outrageous things that
1:19:09
have happened and and here's
here's the problem. It's not the
1:19:14
issue of whether it's not around
whether this is hate speech or
1:19:17
free speech. That's not the
issue here in my view, or what's
1:19:19
causing the controversy? Because
I would argue that, you know,
1:19:24
that if you're a group of
students are walking in a march
1:19:27
and they start saying from the
river to the sea, I'm not sure.
1:19:31
That doesn't qualify as free
speech. Now, we can have an
1:19:33
argument over that. But the
problem here is the
1:19:36
inconsistency.
1:19:40
Adam Curry: There you go. I
thought that was quite good. I
1:19:42
wanted to give him his props on
that. That was that was a good
1:19:44
switcheroo.
1:19:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but every
clock is right twice a day, but
1:19:48
that's exactly
1:19:49
Adam Curry: what people are
seeing. We're seeing they're
1:19:51
seeing the inconsistency.
Saying, and it's, it's it's
1:19:58
beautiful because This is
drawing light. This is not being
1:20:03
we expected. Well, we hoped, I
guess academia higher education
1:20:08
would eventually crumble under,
you know, maybe the student
1:20:12
loans or something had to
happen. But now, they screwed
1:20:15
themselves. It's beautiful to
watch and donors are pulling out
1:20:21
and people are waking up to
like, what do you do punchy as
1:20:24
index.
1:20:26
John C Dvorak: And this also
takes forever for the public to
1:20:28
figure out what's yours
1:20:30
Adam Curry: sometimes years. And
To wit, this is a report from
1:20:36
Turkish radio and television if
you if you want to get the
1:20:39
Palestinian slant on everything,
this is where you go. They did.
1:20:44
This is a quickie report of the
Pope Palace Pro, the pro
1:20:50
Palestine demonstrators marching
on Wall Street. The signs were
1:20:55
professional, they were all
socialist party, world Workers
1:20:57
Party, anarchy flags, etc.
1:21:00
Unknown: Over the last couple of
weeks, I've attended many pro
1:21:03
Palestine demonstrations
throughout the United States.
1:21:06
But I can tell you this one in
downtown Manhattan today is the
1:21:10
largest crowd I've seen. And
they're marching right now
1:21:13
towards Wall Street. And their
goal is to shut it down. Their
1:21:17
goal is to send a message from
New York, all the way to Gaza,
1:21:22
where downtown Manhattan today
and we're marching towards Wall
1:21:25
Street, what's the significance
of that
1:21:28
1000s People here marching
towards last year, because we
1:21:31
know that it's the center of
financial capital, the center of
1:21:35
us capitalism, which is the
engine of this horrendous
1:21:38
genocide machine that has killed
20,000 Palestinians in just two
1:21:43
months. So
1:21:44
we have a large coalition of
people here from all kinds of
1:21:47
different backgrounds and we
also have Jewish people here
1:21:50
demonstrating for Palestine.
1:21:51
Adam Curry: So the whole thing
is against capitalism. It's
1:21:56
these are socialists and
Marxists. They don't actually
1:21:59
care about Gaza. They see an
opportunity and they're seizing
1:22:04
it. And of course it's not going
to work but
1:22:07
John C Dvorak: well, it goes
where it's worse than that.
1:22:10
Adam Curry: Oh, no.
1:22:14
John C Dvorak: Gambling so so.
So we had one of our producers
1:22:19
who happens to be
1:22:20
Adam Curry: a happens to be what
John a gorgeous Broadway
1:22:24
actress. Wow, you do get the
good producers. Now. I get Emily
1:22:31
the germ barge.
1:22:33
John C Dvorak: She Well, she
knows me I sent a clip from one
1:22:41
of these. Pre December December
8 was supposed to be this huge
1:22:45
protests around the country one
day, walkouts left and right and
1:22:49
only place it happened was Wall
Street and I guess the
1:22:51
Washington Post, but except for
those two guys, there's nothing
1:22:56
going on but this guy gives a
speech now it's very unfortunate
1:22:58
is very difficult. I ran it
through Adobe made it 10 times
1:23:05
worse. Yeah. Now this guy's
giving us kind of just give you
1:23:09
a tip a tip.
1:23:11
Adam Curry: That TRT report I
tried it through Adobe sucked. I
1:23:14
ran it through the ones that I
gave you the link to that it's
1:23:19
the open source love that guy.
The vocal remover and isolation
1:23:25
which you would typically think
is just to remove music or
1:23:27
background stuff. I'll have to
try the next very good for
1:23:31
removing crowd noise and stuff.
Well, this
1:23:34
John C Dvorak: is a deep problem
is a dual problem echo and crowd
1:23:37
noise man is this. If it sucks,
I mean I'm live. If you can't
1:23:41
hear you can't hear but this is
a unbelievably interesting.
1:23:45
Couple of eclipses to destroy
Israel clip.
1:23:48
Adam Curry: destroy Israel. Here
we go. Israel
1:23:53
Unknown: is losing ground
politically, diplomatically,
1:23:57
financially, is losing ground in
every possible sphere of life,
1:24:02
we have become Biden's worst
nightmare. Because now
1:24:12
that they have any every time
they hold a press conference
1:24:15
every time they have to make one
decision or another or anything
1:24:19
else is essential. Now, the
question is, are those
1:24:23
protesters going to show up?
What streets are they going to
1:24:27
disrupt? What chaos are they
going to have these we finally
1:24:33
deal that final blow to finally
destroy a race.
1:24:43
Adam Curry: Oh man, you so
should have run that through the
1:24:45
vocal remover either way, the
1:24:48
John C Dvorak: idea is to just
destroy Israel. And this is a
1:24:52
millennial thing. All the
millennials including my they're
1:24:56
all us but the older millennials
in particular, they're all in on
1:25:00
This idea of destroying Israel.
Yes. Well, what what is the
1:25:05
point? I mean, what does that
accomplish? Well, the second
1:25:09
part of this kind of explains
what it accomplishes, if you
1:25:12
can, try to make it out, I'll
explain what he said, If you
1:25:15
can't hear it, here we go.
1:25:17
Adam Curry: Here's what I did.
While you were talking while the
1:25:19
clip was running. I pulled
number two through my AI
1:25:21
machine. Hopefully this will be
better. Oops, I need to open the
1:25:26
fader, of course, that hill.
This is going this is going to
1:25:30
be Jim, there's going to be
genius to
1:25:32
Unknown: the Palestinian people.
Well, no army, no air force with
1:25:37
no navy was able to defeat
Israel as a US. What is it
1:25:44
possible? What can we do? I know
for a fact, I know for sure. I
1:25:49
feel that in my
1:25:51
goodness of our material
conditions now.
1:25:53
That's when we defeat Israel in
the US Empire, we will actually
1:25:57
have been able to know how to
dismantle capitalism here in the
1:26:00
United States.
1:26:03
John C Dvorak: was better,
right? It was Yeah. And so the
1:26:05
idea is this whole process is to
get is to dismantle Americanism.
1:26:11
And Americans is just a straight
up Marxist play. Yeah. And
1:26:14
everyone's buying into Oh, yeah,
those poor Palestinians. It's
1:26:17
got nothing to do with the
Palestinian. Oh, that's
1:26:20
Adam Curry: that is, that is the
most racist genocidal thing you
1:26:24
can be is abuse those people for
your own socialist Marxist
1:26:30
needs. That's that's what makes
them worse.
1:26:36
John C Dvorak: So everybody
supporting Palestine is really
1:26:39
supporting the death of the of
America dollars. It was missing
1:26:42
from the guy speech was death to
America, which I mentioned in
1:26:46
the newsletter. Yes. That's true
to America where, you know,
1:26:51
that's what when you see the
Palestinian protests, that's
1:26:54
what you're dealing with, but I
got a kick out of the fact that
1:26:56
at the very beginning, he says
we're Biden's worst nightmare.
1:27:00
Oh, yeah.
1:27:01
Adam Curry: Yeah. Genocide, Joe?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was
1:27:07
something I learned amidst all
of this, about the boycott,
1:27:13
divest and sanction. The BDS
movement thing is Boycott
1:27:16
Divestment Sanction. Thanks to
this what it is. I was not aware
1:27:21
of certainly not in the state of
Texas, that this goes beyond
1:27:26
just, you know, Roger Waters
and, you know, some people yapan
1:27:31
there's actual laws that have
been created for state
1:27:36
contracts. In
1:27:37
Unknown: much of the United
States, there may be penalties
1:27:40
if you decide to boycott the
State of Israel. 37 US states
1:27:43
have enacted some form of anti
boycott divestment, sanctions or
1:27:48
BDS legislation. It typically
requires parties signing
1:27:51
contracts with the state
government not to engage in a
1:27:54
boycott of Israel. Even
1:27:56
to apply for such a contract. I
had to sign first sign a pledge,
1:28:01
saying that I would not boycott
Israel or not only Israel, get
1:28:06
this Israel or any territory it
controls
1:28:09
it. There have been several
ports across the United States
1:28:12
that have reached the most
important question here does the
1:28:16
Constitution as a First
Amendment forbids States federal
1:28:22
government from passing laws
that target the anti BDS
1:28:27
movement? I want to thank all
Texas for the support in Texas,
1:28:33
a federal court struck down
rights the entirety of Texas law
1:28:38
after our client but here on
Maui, I was asked to sign a
1:28:41
contract that asked her to
promise Israel to promise Israel
1:28:46
that she wouldn't boycott the
1:28:47
state simply passed a new law
that applies to companies
1:28:50
instead of individuals,
1:28:52
even when the laws allow for
free speech and there needs to
1:28:56
be a social climate that allows
folks to freely express their
1:29:02
views
1:29:02
the two months into heightened
tensions and rhetoric
1:29:05
surrounding the Israel Hamas war
and climate may not be now.
1:29:10
Adam Curry: I'm not sure about
this is TR t so I don't know
1:29:13
about a law but that's
interesting. The invalid
1:29:18
Realizer when that far anyway.
Genocide Joe's representative at
1:29:26
the United Nations on the
Security Council did not do
1:29:29
themselves any favor with a veto
vote.
1:29:32
Unknown: The US veto in the UN
Security Council was not
1:29:35
unexpected. Even the cries of
outrage are now growing louder.
1:29:39
China's Permanent Representative
to the UN Zanjan called the
1:29:43
decision hypocritical and self
deceiving the Iranian foreign
1:29:47
minister warned there could be
an uncontrollable explosion of
1:29:51
the situation in the Middle
East. If America continues its
1:29:54
support the UEs deputy UN
Ambassador Muhammad Abu Shahab
1:29:59
said the decision sends the
wrong message to Palestinian
1:30:02
civilians for Amnesty
International Secretary General
1:30:05
Agnes Callamard describes the US
as action as a callous disregard
1:30:10
for civilian suffering. Doctors
Without Borders said the US now
1:30:14
stands alone in costing against
humanity
1:30:19
has the US is the one sending
weapons and warships have been
1:30:23
surrounding Gaza for 20 years.
The arms and rockets have been
1:30:26
manufactured in America, in
Western countries, as they
1:30:29
support Israel to kill the
youth, children, women and the
1:30:32
elderly. God is our Savior. When
America vetoed the ceasefire,
1:30:36
the United Nations and
everywhere else. This veto is
1:30:39
against the people who are dying
in selling all day and all night
1:30:43
with American weapons.
1:30:45
The US veto has prevented a halt
to Israel's brutal attack. The
1:30:50
cry for a ceasefire and now
growing stronger as evidence of
1:30:53
genocide mounts against Israel.
Yeah,
1:30:57
Adam Curry: there you go.
Everybody hates America. Now.
1:31:00
Well done. Joe. Well done. I'm
sure your base will love that.
1:31:03
Now we need to counter this
myth, this message. This is no
1:31:07
good. So let's call Joe and Mika
over there at MSNBC. And let's
1:31:13
launch the new campaign. We need
to blame somebody. We need to
1:31:17
blame this on somebody. And
these these people. They're
1:31:20
taking it. I mean, they're,
they're going with false flag
1:31:23
now. They're not saying it. But
whatever it is.
1:31:27
John C Dvorak: Well, just as a
reminder, we had the head of the
1:31:31
Council on Foreign Relations on
that show, telling them to kick
1:31:35
off a new campaign.
1:31:37
Adam Curry: Well, that no that
but that was a campaign that was
1:31:39
to end
1:31:40
John C Dvorak: Ukraine. This is
the different war. Well, I know
1:31:43
but it's are
1:31:44
Adam Curry: they get the
messages? Yeah. They get the
1:31:45
messages. That's that's your
point. Yeah. Well, it's Richard
1:31:50
angle. So this time they brought
in Richard angle.
1:31:54
John C Dvorak: Richard. Richard
angle. Okay. So yeah,
1:31:58
Adam Curry: the message is, it's
Bibi Netanyahu, whose fault
1:32:02
people were hurting
1:32:03
Unknown: your peace, the
frustration with the Israeli
1:32:05
military response, the time that
it took on October 7, to reach
1:32:09
those kibbutz, as we were
talking about that a bit
1:32:11
yesterday on this show. What do
officials say about that long
1:32:15
span of time before they can get
there?
1:32:18
They are saying absolutely
nothing. They are postponing
1:32:21
that question until after the
war is over. And it's many
1:32:27
Israelis initially were
accepting that and they said
1:32:30
fine. This is a national time of
national crisis, National
1:32:33
Emergency investigations will be
held later. But as time passes,
1:32:38
they are they are demanding
answers. How could it possibly
1:32:41
have taken in just that was
eight hours in other places it
1:32:44
was longer. We spoke to people
who are hiding by the side of
1:32:48
the road for 10 1214 hours, some
cases 24 hours. This is a
1:32:54
country with a military active
police force that has lots of
1:33:00
planes, lots of helicopters, how
could it possibly and it's a
1:33:03
small country, how could they
have missed what looked like an
1:33:07
army crossing the border, the
Hamas militants crossed in
1:33:11
Israel, most of them in a
militarized uniform in green,
1:33:15
many of them in vehicles on
motorcycles. They vending we're
1:33:21
setting fires rampaging the
Israelis throughout, we're
1:33:24
calling each other
communicating. I've spoken to
1:33:27
families of survivors who manage
themselves to send friends and
1:33:32
relatives to go rescue people
before there was any kind of
1:33:36
military or police response. So
there was a not just an
1:33:39
intelligence failure to do not
anticipate this attack, but then
1:33:43
a complete failure in responding
to it. And the official line is,
1:33:47
yes, there was a failure. We
will deal with that at a later
1:33:51
time and there will be a full
and thorough investigation.
1:33:54
Adam Curry: Ah, so the message
is clear. Thank you very much
1:33:57
CIA guys. So mica, Mica. Come on
baby. Do your business, Richard.
1:34:01
Unknown: So Israel also now
saying it has detained hundreds
1:34:04
of people suspected of
terrorism? What more can you
1:34:07
tell us about that?
1:34:11
So there is a considerable
amount of confusion about these,
1:34:16
these these images that many
people are finding disturbing.
1:34:20
They show they were broadcast on
Israeli television extensively
1:34:24
yesterday, and they show at
least 100 Palestinians on the
1:34:29
ground, stripped down to their
underwear holding their their
1:34:33
head in their hands with is
regarded by Israeli troops and
1:34:37
the Israeli military spokesman
said that they were not
1:34:40
officially released by the
military. He didn't deny them
1:34:45
but he said he didn't know if or
when Israeli soldiers may have
1:34:49
taken them. But he said that the
the main mission is to confront
1:34:54
Hamas and go after Hamas
suspects wherever they are.
1:34:58
Israeli media said that they
were men who were arrested in
1:35:03
Gaza, and that some of them
included Hamas suspects who turn
1:35:06
themselves in. very differently.
They say that this was an
1:35:12
attempt by Israeli forces to to
humiliate Palestinians and break
1:35:16
the will of the people. Response
Time question is not just a
1:35:20
little follow up, we'll leave
for later. This is a disturbing
1:35:24
reality eight hours is rule is
the size of what Massachusetts
1:35:30
maybe Benjamin Netanyahu was
very quick to declare war, he
1:35:37
could assess the situation and
realize that Israel was at war,
1:35:41
but eight hours to get to women
who are being raped, by the way
1:35:46
for a year for months.
Disregarding a female analyst
1:35:52
who said this is coming, there's
a 40 page document, spelling it
1:35:56
out. And I want to spell this
out even more. For you. Think
1:36:00
about it. This is a small
country, these gave crossings
1:36:04
are militarized. You're gonna
tell me they don't have cameras,
1:36:09
you're gonna tell me. They don't
have panic buttons, you're going
1:36:13
to tell me they have absolutely
no communication with the
1:36:17
outside world. But they could
there was no warning of this
1:36:21
sign of this, there was no way
to know that we immediately need
1:36:24
to respond and get there within
minutes. This is a problematic
1:36:29
question. And it's it's fair to
ask, it should be asked now. And
1:36:36
quite frankly, how does the
administration go forward?
1:36:39
Without knowing the answer?
We're suffering the
1:36:42
repercussions here in the United
States. We're learning a lot
1:36:45
about attitudes and the response
to this complex situation. But
1:36:50
that question needs to be
answered.
1:36:52
Adam Curry: That wasn't my bell
by the way. For some reason.
1:36:54
They're using a bell now. I
think that was her Your time's
1:36:56
up from the control room. So
that's there it is. There's your
1:37:00
answer. It's Bibi Netanyahu
whose fault Yeah,
1:37:03
John C Dvorak: but here's what's
that stage one of the I don't
1:37:07
want to say of the up,
1:37:09
Adam Curry: I'll say it. No
1:37:10
John C Dvorak: problem is the
stage one, stage two, which is
1:37:14
already starting to float around
and surface is Netanyahu knew
1:37:19
this was coming. He wanted it to
happen so he could make his move
1:37:23
against the Palestinians.
1:37:28
Adam Curry: Makes nothing but
sense because
1:37:30
John C Dvorak: he did this on
purpose. Yeah, it wasn't a
1:37:32
failure of intelligence. So
1:37:34
Adam Curry: of course that's
that is the that's why I said
1:37:36
they're moving towards false now
he's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
1:37:41
that and then the woke when?
1:37:44
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and
Israel goes all queer approach
1:37:53
to queer
1:37:54
Adam Curry: approaches to
Israel, queers for Palestine.
1:37:56
Oh, yeah.
1:37:57
John C Dvorak: And queer history
Israel queer should yeah, it's
1:37:59
just it's, it's this is the
untold part of the story. These
1:38:05
the I guess somebody even came
in I said, Israel is probably
1:38:11
the most gay country in the
world. This whole thing is
1:38:14
simmering underneath this
1:38:16
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that
that was part of the whole the
1:38:19
whole protest against him that
this is what we know all those
1:38:22
protests were as I was told from
boots on the ground, very
1:38:25
similar to Black Lives Matter
matters. During Trump Yeah. Now
1:38:33
they do have an out they've
created an out yah, yah sin wha
1:38:37
that's the guy we're now after.
Yeah, yes. In WA. If we can,
1:38:40
yeah, well, yeah, we can get
Yaya, then I think we can end
1:38:42
this what is the very latest in
terms of the fighting?
1:38:49
Unknown: Almost impossible to
judge on the accuracy of what's
1:38:53
the reports coming from the
Israeli military. But they do
1:38:57
say that they're making
progress. They say that Hamas is
1:39:01
military structures are
beginning to break down that
1:39:04
brigade structures are beginning
to collapse. As more and more
1:39:08
fighters are killed. The
Australia has claimed round
1:39:11
about 7000. Hamas fighters have
been killed since the war
1:39:14
started after October the
seventh, as I said, impossible
1:39:18
to verify that but if it's true,
that's about 25% of Hamas is arm
1:39:24
strength and it would indicate
that it is beginning to fall
1:39:27
apart. And there are signs to
the morale is beginning to
1:39:32
collapse a bit. Hamas fighters
surrendering in the northern
1:39:36
part of Gaza in the Jabalia
refugee camp in the South yokkao
1:39:41
Sin Well, that's the commander
of Hamas in Gaza as house has
1:39:45
been surrounded. Israel's
describing that as a symbolic
1:39:50
victory for them nothing more
than that, but say they will get
1:39:53
Yahya sinwar under they will
kill him eventually, that he's
1:39:56
got no perhaps moments, the
fighting is going on very, very
1:40:03
intensely house to house from
top to bottom of Gaza. The
1:40:08
Israelis have a high newness to
main city in the south of Gaza
1:40:13
surrounded now with armor and
that pressing forward into the
1:40:17
city on the grounds that the
same time they're calling people
1:40:21
to evacuate. As you said, the
introduction to this report.
1:40:24
Yeah, I
1:40:25
Adam Curry: think that's the guy
Yeah.
1:40:28
John C Dvorak: Kind of name that
we were always looking for like
1:40:30
that cigarette guy Six Sigma,
whoever it was in Africa.
1:40:34
There's been a bunch of these
characters. They're always have
1:40:36
stupid names. Yeah,
1:40:37
Adam Curry: yeah. And yeah, it's
easy to remember we can remember
1:40:40
is easy.
1:40:41
John C Dvorak: And, you know,
it's rhymes and certain songs
1:40:43
have to Yeah,
1:40:44
Adam Curry: sit in my yard. From
a Yeah, yeah. Sin walks. So
1:40:49
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. So
they're gonna get him even
1:40:51
though they have his house
around it. I don't know why they
1:40:53
just don't walk in and get him.
But right now it's around. And I
1:40:56
guess they said eventually,
they'll get in there somehow.
1:40:58
And so just bomb in place. And
1:41:00
Adam Curry: you know, so. And
this will only last as long as
1:41:03
Netanyahu can come up with
something to save his own hide,
1:41:05
because he's got to come up with
a counter to the counter. Now
1:41:09
he'll do something he's in
trouble. He's in trouble. Well,
1:41:11
no, he's, and he's, I mean,
really, the only thing he needs
1:41:14
to do here is just keep going.
But eventually, you know,
1:41:18
because the good terrace. he
invoked Article, I think 99 or
1:41:24
something of
1:41:25
John C Dvorak: Oh, good
terrorists is just a Israel
1:41:27
hater.
1:41:28
Adam Curry: So when you invoke
Well, at this point we need to
1:41:35
stop the war. We the killing can
stop anytime now. You know, it's
1:41:40
I think everyone's made their
point was somebody's got
1:41:42
John C Dvorak: to come up with a
way to do it. That's the
1:41:44
problem. Seems that all these
western countries can get into
1:41:47
these quagmires and they can't
get out. Because, you know,
1:41:51
here's another interesting
irony. We always bitch and moan
1:41:54
about the Asians. And they're
the way they deal with things
1:41:58
they have to come out. They have
to save face, it's so important
1:42:02
for them. Because they're there,
they've got their egos are all
1:42:05
tied up and saving face. I have
never seen anything worse than
1:42:10
the Americans, the Europeans and
everybody outside of Asia,
1:42:14
having to save face. We're the
ones we have to save face. We
1:42:19
just can't walk away from
anything. Oh, because we're
1:42:21
losing. We're embarrassing.
That's
1:42:23
Adam Curry: true. That's true.
And when I I'm going to move
1:42:29
away from this for a second go,
but since it's still genocide,
1:42:32
Joe back to Biden, because just
when we're getting ready to, you
1:42:36
know, the message has gone out,
Hey, we got to stop this, we got
1:42:40
to stop the Ukraine thing. And
that's now being used for some
1:42:44
border stuff, which is all bull
crap. They're going to stick it
1:42:48
all in there. They're going to
give Ukraine more money for a
1:42:50
little bit longer. But we needed
to ratchet it up one more step,
1:42:54
just one more. And this is a
setup by Kirby and then I'll
1:42:59
play the actual Biden clip.
1:43:01
Unknown: So we can't support
Ukraine. Their chief adviser
1:43:04
yesterday said they're likely to
lose this war, if they lose us
1:43:08
support. And Putin gets all of
Ukraine, then what? Then?
1:43:11
Where's he go? Because right,
then he's up against the Eastern
1:43:14
Flank of NATO. And if you think
the cost of supporting Ukraine
1:43:17
is high now, just imagine how
much higher it's going to be not
1:43:21
just in national treasure, but
in American blood, if he starts
1:43:25
going after one of our NATO
allies, because as the President
1:43:27
also said, we take our Article
Five commitments very seriously.
1:43:31
So the
1:43:31
Adam Curry: so what he's saying
here now, this is this is I
1:43:34
mean, this is not even to be
taken seriously, is the if we
1:43:39
don't keep using Ukrainian men,
as cannon fodder to be blown up
1:43:45
every single day. There's
another Abrams tank, there's
1:43:48
another Bradley vehicle, these
things are getting blown up one
1:43:51
after another. It's
1:43:52
John C Dvorak: yeah, once they
show up, they get blown up, get
1:43:54
blown up
1:43:55
Adam Curry: continuously. It's
all bull crap. It's all lies.
1:43:57
It's not true. So now we're
saying, you know, if we don't go
1:44:02
for the original truce, which I
would like to point out,
1:44:07
according that I will use the
language of our producers who
1:44:11
are very mad, very mad, that
we're really mad about why we
1:44:15
didn't call Henry Kissinger, a
war criminal. You see,
1:44:20
John C Dvorak: so I will I
hadn't I don't want to interrupt
1:44:23
the train. But I had a good guy.
Yeah, but I'm going to some guy
1:44:28
writes for you, you know, he's a
war criminal. Why don't you say
1:44:32
it you know, when you said, and
so you know, you know who this
1:44:35
guy is some Dutch guy. And so
I'm, I'm I think, and so I still
1:44:41
want somebody to give me an
example. How was he a war
1:44:43
criminal? Cambodia? Oh, really?
He went over to Cambodia. I
1:44:48
didn't know that. I thought it
was over here all the time. You
1:44:51
mean he advised Nixon perhaps to
bomb Cambodia and then Nixon
1:44:56
bombed Cambodia, or he advised
you Lyndon Johnson tend to go
1:45:00
deeper into North Vietnam and
bomb. I mean, he advised one
1:45:04
president after the other. It's
the president who's the war
1:45:08
criminal. He doesn't have to
take Henry Kissinger's advice.
1:45:12
But yet when when Lyndon Johnson
died, nobody said he was a war
1:45:16
criminal. When Nixon died,
nobody called him a war
1:45:20
criminal. But poor Henry
Kissinger, he dies. Somehow he's
1:45:24
the war criminal because all he
did was sit on his ass at a
1:45:27
desk. He didn't pull a gun out.
He didn't carry a gun. He didn't
1:45:31
shoot anybody, but he's a war
criminal. For what?
1:45:34
Adam Curry: For being a Jew.
Come on, you know, this. Sounds
1:45:37
obvious. So by the same logic,
by the same logic, Boris Johnson
1:45:42
is a war criminal, because he
thwarted the peace he prolong
1:45:46
the war between Russia and
Ukraine. This is fact unknown,
1:45:50
and there's no disagreement over
this. Nobody has denied it. And
1:45:55
all Putin wanted was the buffer,
which he's going to get
1:45:58
eventually 700,000 men have died
I'll guess just No, look, I'm no
1:46:06
Hamas health authority. But when
it comes to Ukraine, those
1:46:09
numbers are probably pretty
accurate. A lot of Russians a
1:46:12
lot of Ukrainians died over this
silliness, the stupidity,
1:46:17
probably just to cover up the
crimes of our political elites,
1:46:22
including the Biden's including
the Pelosi that doesn't carry
1:46:26
kid labs,
1:46:28
John C Dvorak: the lab Bio Labs
all over Ukraine, nobody's
1:46:30
talking about that anymore.
Bring up all all
1:46:33
Adam Curry: of these crimes, the
money laundering, the the
1:46:37
cybercrime, the hookers, all of
it. There's always hookers
1:46:41
involved to cover all of that to
create an even better crime
1:46:45
state. No, we had to delay all
that and just kill some people
1:46:49
who cares. Ursula is invalid.
They're all involved in this is
1:46:53
no secret to us. We tried to
just deconstruct media anyway,
1:46:57
to bring it back. This is now
the new Gambit is no no. If If
1:47:05
Ukraine falls then they're going
to attack what?
1:47:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah. domino
theory over again from the
1:47:14
1960s. Poland. Is
1:47:16
Adam Curry: that who they're
gonna attack really Poland?
1:47:19
That'll
1:47:19
John C Dvorak: be the day and
but you've got well,
1:47:22
Adam Curry: let's listen to the
to the current president. Good
1:47:25
Unknown: afternoon, everyone. I
would like to speak to you today
1:47:28
about an urgent responsibility.
The Congress has to uphold the
1:47:33
national security needs of the
United States. And quite
1:47:36
frankly, of our partners as
well. This cannot wait. Congress
1:47:41
needs to pass supplemental
funding for Ukraine before they
1:47:46
break for the holiday resources
as simple as that. Frankly, I
1:47:49
think it's stunning that we've
gotten to this point in the
1:47:52
first place of Congressman
Publix and Congress's are
1:47:55
willing to give Putin the
greatest gift he could hope for
1:47:59
and abandon our global
leadership, not just Ukraine.
1:48:03
But beyond it Putin takes
Ukraine, he won't stop there.
1:48:08
It's important to see the long
run here. He's gonna keep going.
1:48:12
He's made that pretty clear
Putin attacks and NATO ally,
1:48:15
then we'll have something that
we don't seek, and that we don't
1:48:20
have today, American troops
fighting Russian troops,
1:48:24
American troops fighting Russian
troops if he moves into other
1:48:27
parts of NATO. Extreme
Republicans are playing chicken
1:48:30
with our national security,
holding Ukraine's funding
1:48:34
hostage to their extreme
partisan border policies. And
1:48:37
now they're willing to literally
kneecap Ukraine on the
1:48:41
battlefield and damage our
national security the process.
1:48:45
Well
1:48:45
Adam Curry: buckle up everybody
because I do not put it beyond
1:48:48
these people at all to create
some kind of false flag. I'm
1:48:52
gonna say it, I'll just say it.
And they want war so bad. No, I
1:48:59
know everyone's gonna say no,
what's the Zinus now is Joe
1:49:02
Biden, his Blinken, bomber, all
the all these people, they're
1:49:06
all horrible. They love war.
They don't care. They don't
1:49:10
care. We should be happy that
Putin is reserved. And by the
1:49:15
way, he's of course running for
reelection. BBC time President
1:49:19
Putin
1:49:19
Unknown: wasn't even looking at
the camera. When he announced
1:49:21
today he was seeking another six
years in office is muffled words
1:49:25
were picked up by nearby
microphone at a ceremony to
1:49:29
award medals to soldiers
fighting in Ukraine. He was told
1:49:33
by one of them Russia needs you.
To which he replied,
1:49:38
I will not hide that I have had
different thoughts at different
1:49:41
times. But it's now time to make
a decision. But now is the right
1:49:45
time, the time when the decision
needs to be made. I will run for
1:49:49
the position of president of the
Russian Federation,
1:49:53
where it will be Mr. Putin's
fifth term and we're leading
1:49:56
opposition figures either
imprisoned or in exile voting
1:50:00
and is expected to be a
formality and his reelection
1:50:03
assured.
1:50:04
Adam Curry: Now, analysis of
this is even more interesting
1:50:08
from the BBC. Because, as we
know, election rigging doesn't
1:50:13
happen anywhere. No, Trump is an
idiot. It was the it was the
1:50:17
fairest election ever. But when
it comes to Putin,
1:50:22
Unknown: there's clearly no
doubt in his mind and the minds
1:50:26
of those that surround him that
he will be reelected. There's
1:50:31
no question about that. And we
even have already a sense of
1:50:35
what it's likely to be. In terms
of the results. Apparently,
1:50:39
Putin's spin doctors and
political technicians are
1:50:43
working on a 75 to 80% share of
the vote on a 70% turnout,
1:50:49
because they want to make some
kind of grand gesture about how
1:50:52
the Russian people are behind
them. But that said, although
1:50:56
the outcome of the election is
not in doubt, the interesting
1:51:00
thing about Russian elections is
how much work the Kremlin's will
1:51:04
have to do to get that result.
In theory, it can just rig the
1:51:08
whole thing. Now, because it's
introducing voting over three
1:51:12
days and a lot of electronic
voting, which makes rigging even
1:51:16
simpler than before. However, if
you rigged it to, obviously to
1:51:21
offensively show say, not only
does it mean that you're going
1:51:24
to win the kind of public
legitimacy that you hope for,
1:51:27
but also there's a risk that it
sparks public protests it has in
1:51:30
the past 2011 2012 We saw the
largest protests in Russia since
1:51:34
1991. Because of that reason, so
instead, a lot of how do you pre
1:51:39
read, buying off constituencies?
And in particular, making sure
1:51:44
that you stack the campaign so
that none of the other
1:51:48
candidates look at all appealing
or credible tell
1:51:52
Adam Curry: there it is. Don't
worry, besides the fact that
1:51:55
Putin is clearly has cancer and
his dead will be dead any minute
1:52:00
now. He looks so sick. Now. Now
he's going to rig his own
1:52:03
election. This is exactly how
insane we become. Now we have
1:52:07
two new puppets on the playing
field. This is important to pay
1:52:10
attention to because the Lensky
has done that once you went with
1:52:15
the Hey man, give us some
credit. Give us some credit. Now
1:52:17
he was done. He doesn't have the
juice. Juice, ju ice troll room.
1:52:23
Okay, the juice. You gotta you
gotta clarify that everything's
1:52:28
these trolls. You know, his
recent appearance in front of
1:52:34
Congress was canceled. So we
have two puppets on the scene
1:52:38
now for the Republicans. We have
rousse llansteffan shook head of
1:52:46
Ukrainian parliament. He is this
huge. I mean, the guy is gotta
1:52:51
be six, six foot seven teeth.
You know, he was here he is with
1:52:57
shaking Mike Johnson's hand, the
Speaker of the House, within
1:53:03
your black all black military
style fatigues. And he is in
1:53:07
fact number he is. Number two in
line should anything happen to
1:53:12
Zelinsky. But then all of a
sudden, I'm going to think
1:53:17
Military Industrial Complex
puppet pops up. Welcome back.
1:53:21
Poroshenko Hello, and
1:53:22
Unknown: welcome to Tetteh Ted
France. 24th flagship interview
1:53:25
show. Our guest today is Petro
Poroshenko. He is the former
1:53:29
President of Ukraine and the
leader of the opposition. He
1:53:32
joins us from Kyiv, the capital
of Ukraine. Thank you very much,
1:53:35
Mr. Poroshenko. It's a pleasure.
Thank you for the invitation.
1:53:39
Mr. Poroshenko, the US Senate
has decided for now to withhold
1:53:44
a major package of financial and
military aid for Ukraine. There
1:53:50
is a forthcoming European Union
summit next week also to decide
1:53:55
whether there should be
financial and military aid to
1:53:58
Ukraine, no guarantee that there
will be agreement on this. Are
1:54:02
you worried that the West is
losing faith in Ukraine and is
1:54:07
not going to provide Ukraine
with the financial and military
1:54:11
assistance it needs. For us to
understand that this next week,
1:54:18
or next seven days, is one of
the most important day in
1:54:23
Ukrainian history. And
undoubtedly, very important
1:54:28
for Europe. And for the rest
situation. This is not just a
1:54:33
package for assistance Ukraine,
we discussed with the United
1:54:37
States. This is the investment
in the American security in the
1:54:43
American defense capability. And
with that situation, I hate the
1:54:48
idea that Ukraine can appear the
hostage of different Arbic
1:54:55
questions included in the
question for the internal policy
1:54:59
for the Let's hear election. Now
1:55:01
Adam Curry: if I had to bet on
it I'd say Poroshenko is the guy
1:55:06
he's the guy that is going to be
brought in to create the truce
1:55:10
that we will get American
weapons defense this is all been
1:55:14
flushed out I think already
Poroshenko who was brought back
1:55:18
to Ukraine to face treason and
you know whatever be of treason
1:55:23
charges literally three treason
charges. So now he's they're
1:55:26
just hanging out doing a little
interviews with Deutsche Avella.
1:55:31
I think he's the guy. He's the
guy that will they'll be brought
1:55:34
in. The truce will be signed.
This guy's a CIA guy to be fired
1:55:39
as as Deutsche Avella has asked
him. Thank you. Did you hear
1:55:42
them leading the witness, by the
way with that question?
1:55:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
amateur.
1:55:48
Adam Curry: So I think that's
that's where we're at. I think
1:55:51
that's, that is the that's the
basic Yeah,
1:55:57
John C Dvorak: but there's
something going on. I think the
1:55:59
reason for all this money right
now just before if they keep
1:56:01
talking about before the
holidays is because this is when
1:56:04
their fiscal year is going to
end for a couple of these these
1:56:07
giant defense contractors and
they need to get their bonuses
1:56:12
figured out and it's always a
piece of the action and so
1:56:15
they're gonna get their
Christmas bonuses this year.
1:56:18
They're gonna get it next year.
And so they gotta get that put
1:56:21
put aside, and that's what the
reason for the panic is yes.
1:56:26
Adam Curry: Yes. There's Let me
see. I'm going to bring in AI
1:56:37
into this conversation because
there is some AI news. As you
1:56:41
know, AI it's the future
1:56:43
John C Dvorak: of bullcrap
future humor, if you watch
1:56:46
enough of these clips of
Hillary, well,
1:56:48
Adam Curry: well, here's here's
a good one. I like this AI,
1:56:51
which, of course, we have
regulation everywhere. This is
1:56:54
AI is the most dangerous thing
in the world, if you ever want
1:56:56
to prove that AI was bad. Al
Jazeera has the latest on the AI
1:57:02
that is killing Palestinians,
more than two months of Israeli
1:57:05
bombing have turned the Gaza
strip into a hellscape entire
1:57:09
neighborhoods had been wiped out
made uninhabitable with more
1:57:13
than 16,000 Palestinians killed.
It is a population on the run
1:57:18
and unfolding genocide. And we
now know that the unprecedented
1:57:22
killing of Gazans is being
powered, at least in part by AI,
1:57:26
and Israeli artificial
intelligence system that
1:57:29
generates new targets at a rate
we have never seen before. We
1:57:33
have
1:57:33
Unknown: three AI systems, which
operate in concert, we have the
1:57:37
alchemists system, which
collects information with the
1:57:42
second layer of this AI system,
which is called the Fire
1:57:45
factory, which analyzes the data
and the gospel system which
1:57:50
produces possible military
targets.
1:57:52
Adam Curry: Thanks, bro. The
killing of AI is called the
1:57:56
gospel,
1:57:56
Unknown: it must be stressed
that every military target which
1:58:00
is attacked from the air by the
IDF goes through an analysis of
1:58:05
both intelligence officers and
legal advisors. So while AI
1:58:11
systems produce potential
targets, at the end of the day,
1:58:15
these are human beings which are
authorizing them,
1:58:18
the Gaza Strip and the occupied
Palestinian territories have
1:58:22
become a testing laboratory in
every sense of the word there is
1:58:27
just simply no limitations to
the extent that Israel can test
1:58:32
these technologies against
Palestinians. I think the
1:58:35
objective is clear. And that is
the annihilation of Palestinians
1:58:43
in the Gaza Strip and making
Gaza uninhabitable these
1:58:47
technologies that are used now
in Gaza we should probably
1:58:52
upgrade the term from automated
apartheid to automated genocide.
1:58:56
Adam Curry: There you go
automated genocide beautiful.
1:58:59
The screw you guys calling it
the gospel. Bring out the book.
1:59:03
Stop that nonsense nonsense. The
EU however, has I think I'm
1:59:10
thank you for the left.
1:59:11
John C Dvorak: The A What is
funny if you think about it is
1:59:14
it's it's so gospel. Gent. Yeah.
Okay. Say it. Go
1:59:19
Adam Curry: ahead, say it.
1:59:20
John C Dvorak: Well, it
basically infers Christian
1:59:24
Christian. Yes. And so you have
the like a Christian, you know,
1:59:30
behind the killing done by the
Jews against the Palestinians,
1:59:35
just the layers of irony and as
far as screwing this is just way
1:59:40
over the top. So
1:59:42
Adam Curry: the EU completed as
the first ever in the world, Pa
1:59:46
they're so good. They're the
EU's they can they've just got
1:59:50
their AI regulation done. Now
this is only the political part
1:59:54
because the actual technical
part will need to come later.
1:59:57
But listen to this,
1:59:58
Unknown: do you if you and the
union has agreed on on
2:00:00
legislation to govern the use of
artificial intelligence, the
2:00:03
deal includes limits on facial
recognition technology, and
2:00:07
restrictions on using AI to
manipulate human behavior that
2:00:11
you use as the future legal
framework for AI will include
2:00:15
tough penalties for companies
breaking the rules, but will not
2:00:18
stifle development of the
industry in Euros for those
2:00:22
years of discussions among
Member States and lawmakers in
2:00:26
the European Parliament.
2:00:28
We had one objective to deliver
a legislation that would ensure
2:00:33
that the ecosystem of AI in
Europe would develop with a
2:00:37
human centric approach
respecting fundamental rights
2:00:40
and the European values.
2:00:42
Adam Curry: Because this is
really something that is much
2:00:45
more I believe that book is a
launchpad for the European
2:00:49
startups, and also researchers
to to lead the global race for
2:00:54
what our fellow citizens for
trustworthy. Alright, so blah,
2:00:59
blah, blah. We did a great job,
everybody. Let's get to the
2:01:02
details with our Deutsche Abello
tech, Deutsche Bella techno
2:01:05
douche,
2:01:06
Unknown: you will divide AI
applications into four risk
2:01:10
classes, some of them will be
completely forbidden, like
2:01:13
facial recognition in on a
massive scale. There are some
2:01:17
exemptions for military and law
enforcement.
2:01:21
Adam Curry: Ah, don't worry,
everybody, facial recognition
2:01:24
not going to happen with a
couple of exemptions for police,
2:01:28
the police need to do it. And
2:01:29
Unknown: also the behavioral
control and control of your
2:01:33
thoughts that will be also
banned. Except
2:01:37
Adam Curry: when we need to
control your thoughts at this a
2:01:40
few exemptions in the
controlling your thoughts area.
2:01:43
But
2:01:43
Unknown: high risk applications
for example, in self driving
2:01:46
cars will be allowed in the EU
to be certified. The technique
2:01:52
has to be open so that everybody
can see how that works. And
2:01:56
normally I would call it like
Chet GBT on a medium risk level
2:02:01
that can be in the EU without
any restrictions. But it has to
2:02:05
be documented how this thing
works. And everybody has to know
2:02:10
that he's dealing with AI that
is not talking to a human. Wait,
2:02:14
wait, wait, there's a fourth
category. This is one of the
2:02:17
essential measures in the whole
legislations. You as a consumer
2:02:21
should always decide do I want
to talk to a machine, I have to
2:02:26
know that it's not human. This
is the basic principle and but
2:02:30
there are also some AI
applications that could be not
2:02:33
regulated, for example, audio
and video altering programs that
2:02:40
make these well known deep
fakes. These are not regulated,
2:02:44
they don't pose a high risk in
the view of the EU.
2:02:49
Adam Curry: I love it. So we
could do any kind of deep fakes.
2:02:52
We want an audio and video no
problem. And by the way, I love
2:02:56
the name that he came up with
chat GP GPT. I think we should
2:02:59
have a chat bot called chit,
2:03:01
John C Dvorak: chit chit chat is
2:03:02
Adam Curry: a great name for it
for a chat bot. And of course,
2:03:06
right?
2:03:07
John C Dvorak: Yes, I just stood
in that conversation. He
2:03:09
discussed the openness necessary
for the self driving cars. Yes.
2:03:14
Which is the last thing I want.
Because I don't want any every
2:03:19
hacker in the world going
through the code of a self
2:03:22
driving car and looking for ways
to defeat the mechanism and for
2:03:28
fool it or have a drive into
over the cliff or across the you
2:03:32
know, across the bridge and then
over the bridge into the drink.
2:03:35
I mean, the you don't want that.
No.
2:03:39
Adam Curry: Well, the EU, the UK
is lucky because they're no
2:03:44
longer a part of EU regulation.
And it's, that's great, because
2:03:49
Brits may now be forced to take
a selfie before they can watch
2:03:52
porn. You know, because the fate
the the AI will make sure you're
2:03:56
old enough. That's how they're
going to check that. They have
2:04:00
one more clip here before Wow,
good one that it's great idea.
2:04:05
Don't worry. It's just making
sure you're old enough. Don't
2:04:07
worry about the selfie or to
worry
2:04:09
John C Dvorak: about the fact
that we're going to post these
2:04:10
selfies of the people watching
porn.
2:04:14
Adam Curry: The funniest news
this week was that that fabulous
2:04:18
demo of Google's Gemini that
everybody was drooling over
2:04:23
turns out was completely phony
it up.
2:04:26
John C Dvorak: Gee, wait a
minute, Silicon Valley demo was
2:04:30
following up. What a genius
idea.
2:04:33
Adam Curry: If you saw it, they
had you know they were talking
2:04:36
to it and it was answering and
they were showing little like
2:04:39
oh, this drawing a duck. Oh,
that's a Duck QUACK. Except they
2:04:43
cut out all the response times
that could have been three
2:04:47
seconds. 30 seconds. Who knows?
The voice prompts were not
2:04:51
voiced. They had pre entered
those with text. The whole thing
2:04:54
was phony. Phony from Google.
That's okay. because we have Al
2:05:02
Gore to bring the humor back
into AI. And he did it does, he
2:05:10
had a great interview, half an
hour at COP 28. No cop is
2:05:14
complete without Al Gore
2:05:17
Unknown: to one based on
broadcasting and then moving on
2:05:22
to the internet and to social
media has disrupted the balances
2:05:28
that used to exist, that made
representative democracy work
2:05:33
much better. Because a free self
governing people rely on a
2:05:39
shared base of knowledge that
serves as a basis for reasoning
2:05:45
together collectively. But if
you have social media that is
2:05:52
dominated by algorithms that
pull people down these rabbit
2:05:58
holes that are a bit like
pitcher plants, these
2:06:02
algorithms, they are the digital
equivalent of AR fifteens. They
2:06:06
ought to be banned, they really
ought to be banned. It's an
2:06:09
abuse of the public forum. But
when these when people are
2:06:14
pulled down these rabbit holes,
you know what's at the bottom of
2:06:17
the rabbit hole. That's where
the echo chamber is. And if you
2:06:22
spend too much time in the echo
chamber, what's weaponized is
2:06:27
another form of AI, not
artificial intelligence,
2:06:29
artificial insanity. I'm
serious. I'm serious.
2:06:34
Adam Curry: I'm at the bottom,
I'll help me.
2:06:39
John C Dvorak: Artificial
insanity,
2:06:40
Adam Curry: which is dumb,
because artificial insanity
2:06:43
would mean that people aren't
really insane. It's artificial.
2:06:47
But that's just an outdoor man.
And yeah, he comes out. He comes
2:06:53
out on stage. He puts his hand
together praying like Thank you.
2:06:56
Thank you. I'm so thank you know
2:06:58
John C Dvorak: mosty Namaste.
2:07:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, Namaste style.
2:07:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Very good
to the Buddha.
2:07:06
Adam Curry: I gotta reiterate
right now. I see even comic
2:07:09
strip blogger loved the man.
I've known him longer than my
2:07:12
wife. And he and he posts from
from what is it? Barf. grok.
2:07:19
This is Elon Musk's fantastic AI
grok. It's it's word salad. It's
2:07:26
crap. None of this is good. It's
entirely recognizable
2:07:30
immediately.
2:07:32
John C Dvorak: It's just they
gotta fix that
2:07:34
Adam Curry: they can't because
it's no good. These things can't
2:07:37
even do math. They really can't
if you ask them to do some some
2:07:41
basic math. It's hard for AI.
It's people argue with me all
2:07:45
day long. But AI is not going to
kill us. This is list
2:07:50
John C Dvorak: all over and kill
us with laughter
2:07:53
Adam Curry: It's list all over
again. The AI winter is coming.
2:07:57
This Yeah. That was the largest
used Yeah, right. The list guys
2:08:02
are all over this like, hey, we
did this with list midweek at
2:08:05
least create this large list
model. That's what it is. It's
2:08:10
not impressive. It's going to
fail. And the only people
2:08:15
winning are is Nvidia because
everyone wants compute cycles.
2:08:19
And I think I would say that
they're they're good for a
2:08:22
short. I mean, that's just me. I
don't I'm not the DH on plug
2:08:25
guy. I'm just saying that. Some
things. This Gemini demo was the
2:08:30
second fail for Google. The
first one was barf. And he got
2:08:33
all the answers wrong. And then
this Gemini demo was faked.
2:08:37
Where's the business?
2:08:40
John C Dvorak: where's the
where's the data? You did? Now?
2:08:42
You You nailed it. Where does
the business where's the
2:08:45
business? The business is meet
compute side like that old
2:08:49
commercial? Yeah, where's the
business?
2:08:50
Adam Curry: where's the where's
the beef? Where's the business?
2:08:52
John C Dvorak: I mean, that the
way I see it, I still liked the
2:08:55
AI stuff because I love the
Hillary AI woman I liked the
2:08:59
Biden AI. Like all the AIS that
are being used for great for
2:09:04
humor by goofballs that are
online creating this stuff to
2:09:07
not make it there's no business
in that either. And it's like
2:09:11
the guys who do memes there's no
business model. You can't do
2:09:13
memes for a living though. And
but that's where it's going it's
2:09:18
where it's headed and some of
its pretty getting better.
2:09:21
Adam Curry: With that stuff is
fantastic. And that's as you saw
2:09:24
is the is the bottom of the
totem pole. I mean that will be
2:09:27
used for now it will be used in
reverse as we discussed. I
2:09:32
didn't say that said politician
a. That must have been AI that's
2:09:37
not true. When there's
2:09:38
John C Dvorak: a bias there's a
product for sale. I think it's
2:09:40
actually legit. It's a product
debt. It is a snap on finger.
2:09:47
Yes. The extra finger, you put
you put this finger on it so
2:09:51
anyone takes a picture of you
and says that it's a picture of
2:09:54
you doing something rather you
point out that you have six
2:09:57
fingers on one hand so it must
be a I That's great. I just
2:10:01
thought it was a great idea.
2:10:04
Adam Curry: I mean, seriously
that. I just don't see that.
2:10:07
Now. Okay. So pretty soon, just
like everybody had homogenized
2:10:12
flower points will have
homogenized Word docs, it all be
2:10:16
the same at all be the, in the
ever expanding world of filling
2:10:21
your business name. That's what
it does. It creates predictable
2:10:27
crap. It's not impressive.
2:10:29
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. It
means not impressive. No, thank
2:10:33
you. So it is funny.
2:10:35
Adam Curry: Well, it'll be great
for the show. But when when then
2:10:38
John C Dvorak: is great for the
show because you can bellyache
2:10:40
constantly, which you do. Yes, I
do. Which is my job. But you do
2:10:45
a better job of it with AI with
AI with AI and it's material.
2:10:51
It's dynamite. As you mentioned,
I should have clipped up the
2:10:54
Hillary thing. Yes. Where she
blames everything on global
2:10:57
warming, which is very funny
because like
2:11:00
Adam Curry: the Greta thing that
was great. You know, the Greta
2:11:02
with the vegan hand grenades. I
mean, it's yeah, it's great.
2:11:05
It's just it's not a business
model. Comedy is hard. It's hard
2:11:08
to make money at comedy.
2:11:09
John C Dvorak: Especially when
you're just giving it away. Yes.
2:11:13
So
2:11:14
Adam Curry: no, it's I'm sorry.
And I love all the podcasts
2:11:18
companies. Oh, we've got AI for
this. Yeah, we'll do your show
2:11:21
notes. Ai everyone wants to make
it so easy. Like oh, you don't
2:11:29
have you hardly have to show up
and your podcast will be created
2:11:33
is great. No, no, it's not.
2:11:37
John C Dvorak: So we were I
wanted to talk about TV and
2:11:40
movies for a minute.
2:11:41
Adam Curry: Okay, we do have to
take a break. So we're, we got
2:11:45
John C Dvorak: to heart out
that's come out of the break.
2:11:47
And I want to bitch about a
couple of things out there.
2:11:50
Adam Curry: Let's go into the
break with pitching that's
2:11:51
always fun. Come on, do it.
Well, let's start
2:11:54
John C Dvorak: with this that
there's a movie The Dave hell
2:11:56
raising the Flower Hill or
whatever it is, is a it's a
2:12:00
score Ceci movie that was
produced by Apple. Oh, god, it's
2:12:04
three and a half hours long. I
have a screen here. I tried to
2:12:08
why it's unwatchable is too
long. It's about some murders
2:12:12
that took place in the south
during the of Indians. And I'm
2:12:17
going to play a clip from it.
This is the whole movie by the
2:12:21
way. Oh, it's as if it's like
Southern accents killers
2:12:25
Adam Curry: of the flower moon.
Yeah, killers of the flower
2:12:28
moon.
2:12:29
John C Dvorak: It's it's a money
is obviously Scorsese got to
2:12:34
show up who knows how much money
to do this film. Took it to
2:12:38
three and a half hours to make
sure nobody actually got to want
2:12:41
to see it. Because they you'd be
embarrassed. And the whole movie
2:12:46
is like DiCaprio and a bunch of
other guys including De Niro.
2:12:50
You know, the usual suspects
2:12:51
Adam Curry: is one of those and
man we're all on the Scorsese
2:12:54
movies. Gonna be like The
Godfather.
2:12:56
John C Dvorak: We're gonna have
nothing but fun. They all have
2:12:59
the worst Southern accents a
match mine is bad. No, DiCaprio
2:13:05
is is worse. And he's doing a
Texas accent and even though
2:13:09
he's from Saudi it's just
terrible. And the whole movie I
2:13:13
have a clip from the movie I'm
telling you the whole three and
2:13:15
a half hours is basically this
2:13:19
Unknown: yes me mess for you for
Kingham don't see the foundation
2:13:23
curly until we take care of one
read all right it's time now guy
2:13:27
came to write man my wife said
my wife sick to my wife said to
2:13:32
go Why don't you Why are you
always trying to get somebody
2:13:35
like me? Do you work for you
walk because I don't know. I
2:13:38
don't really see Kirby looks
locking right I mean I wouldn't
2:13:43
do it but I can't do it because
I don't know. I'm sorry. Hi,
2:13:48
I'll do it. But I can't do it
right now. I can't get to a
2:13:51
right now just so you know that
something needs to be done
2:13:53
straight away. Not to wait on
for Hale has to be done straight
2:13:56
away right now. Me and mighty
pushing earnest. I gotta get
2:14:00
back. Let me tell you, John,
John. This is it. One more
2:14:04
change. I will talk to King
Hale. I'm gonna tell him you're
2:14:07
gonna do right now. I don't want
to lose this job John. Dang it.
2:14:13
Adam Curry: Oh man, that's bad.
2:14:16
John C Dvorak: I mean a whole
movie is basically that
2:14:19
Adam Curry: I live in the South.
They don't nobody
2:14:22
John C Dvorak: talks like that.
I know. man put his like clip
2:14:26
custodian
2:14:26
Adam Curry: says he watched it
took him two days to watch it.
2:14:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, he couldn't
watch it in one setting now I
2:14:32
don't think anybody can. But why
get even why even watch it?
2:14:37
Adam Curry: Well, as his kid is
going through chemo, this was
2:14:39
probably less fun. Watching this
movie. Oh my god. We're
2:14:46
John C Dvorak: talking about
some of the other crap that's on
2:14:48
television. The Kelsey Grammer
reboot. Yes, unwatchable. I
2:14:54
anything is on network TV. If I
watched something,
2:14:57
Adam Curry: I watched something
that I liked. Okay. ready for
2:15:01
it. We watched it last night. It
had a very different type of
2:15:05
plot. It had good cameos I would
say out and not just can't but
2:15:11
big, good actors, well known
actors. He kept the producer the
2:15:18
guy who produced it and stars in
it kept true to his, his legacy.
2:15:24
And it's a Christmas movie,
Candy Cane Lane, by Eddie
2:15:28
Murphy. very watchable, very
watchable. Very fun.
2:15:36
John C Dvorak: Bill Murphy is no
slouch when it comes to
2:15:38
producing a movie or being in a
movie that's watchable. Yeah.
2:15:41
And
2:15:42
Adam Curry: it was a different
take on a on a Christmas movie.
2:15:46
It was a lot of black actors,
but it wasn't like look, we're
2:15:51
all black actors. I mean, it was
just it was good. It was a good
2:15:54
movie.
2:15:55
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
probably a contrast to Sean
2:15:58
Hannity's producing movie.
2:16:00
Adam Curry: Oh no.
2:16:03
John C Dvorak: Which is only on
rumble and he's so proud of it.
2:16:07
And the title alone tells you
where this movie is headed. It's
2:16:10
called jingle smells now
2:16:12
Adam Curry: just stop stop I'm
kidding. Yes, that can't be
2:16:16
true. Jingle smells Do you have
a clip? No, I
2:16:23
John C Dvorak: don't have a clip
I didn't think God bringing a
2:16:25
clip of that but thank you so so
proud of this is a good movie
2:16:29
that all the family is a good
Christian values movie
2:16:33
Adam Curry: brother and it's on
rumble
2:16:35
John C Dvorak: rumble or bitch
shoot one of the two is that guy
2:16:38
get these mixed up these
platforms and God
2:16:41
Adam Curry: well there you go
everybody that's your holiday
2:16:44
watching tips from your no
agenda show. And with that I'd
2:16:47
like to thank you for your
currency in the morning to you
2:16:49
the man who put the commies who
want hate our capitalism you put
2:16:53
the season that's a lot of my
friend on the other end one one
2:16:55
only missed our jobs
2:17:00
John C Dvorak: in the morning
the industry and McCurry look in
2:17:02
the morning, boots on the ground
feet in the air subs in the
2:17:05
water and all the names and all
2:17:07
Adam Curry: their trolls the
trolls are good. I'm really
2:17:09
digging the joke I you know,
I've really I've I've really
2:17:17
changed my stance a lot. I love
the trolls and the troll room
2:17:21
I'm feeling very good. I like it
when they say horrible things to
2:17:25
me. Because I forgive them
immediately obviously, it's it's
2:17:30
it's good and it just scrolls
off and then the trolls do other
2:17:33
things and they focus our
attention on someone else we
2:17:35
have 2031 Trolls today
2:17:41
John C Dvorak: that's 400 lower
this but seems to be our new
2:17:44
Sunday number it's our new low
2:17:45
Adam Curry: this is our new low
Exactly. But what it but it's
2:17:50
it's you know we are a bit two
minutes and 18 Two hours and 18
2:17:54
minutes into the show. I wanted
to break earlier but we are on
2:17:57
such a roll. Because the this
will be a very short donation
2:18:01
segment are getting shorter as
the days get longer. The longer
2:18:06
the donation segments get
shorter to amazing how that
2:18:09
works. Now you can join those
trolls in the troll room. That's
2:18:15
it troll room.io And remember to
tune in early. At least two
2:18:20
hours on Thursdays for Darren
O'Neal's rock and roll pre show.
2:18:25
And on Sunday we also have the
Bluegrass show which comes on
2:18:28
four hours earlier. Which is I
mean, it's it's really good if
2:18:33
you want to listen live and now
Fountain has up their game. This
2:18:38
is all the new podcast apps you
want to try out by the way.
2:18:41
Fountain has come up with a new
version which is banger. They do
2:18:45
the live stuff to give you
alerts a podcast Guru is
2:18:48
upgraded there's pod verse is
doing fantastic curio caster
2:18:52
cast thematic all of this. This
is the format of the future.
2:18:55
We've been doing it for 16
years. But it's listening live.
2:18:59
You've got the troll room right
there. And if you're if you're
2:19:02
one of the 4% of podcast
listeners, who is using Google
2:19:06
podcasts, I know sounds crazy.
Export your subscriptions to a
2:19:12
modern podcast app today.
Because that can that can help a
2:19:16
an independent podcast app at
modern podcast. apps.com. Yeah,
2:19:21
yeah,
2:19:22
John C Dvorak: it's true. And
people should go to modern
2:19:23
podcast apps.com Every so often.
That's
2:19:27
Adam Curry: right, just check up
and see what's going on. Thank
2:19:30
you, John. And you should also
go to too many eggs.com Because
2:19:33
it's a great combo.
2:19:34
John C Dvorak: You never know if
you need a big fat giant
2:19:36
cookbook, too many eggs. It's
these are all good tip little
2:19:40
ball rolling on the no agenda
show. That's what you're
2:19:43
supposed to do. If you're doing
a podcast is log roll, which Joe
2:19:48
Rogan doesn't do.
2:19:49
Adam Curry: It's interesting.
You bring that up because these
2:19:51
apps have a new feature which is
called the pod roll. I didn't
2:19:55
make the name up. And now that
we have in our pod enroll for
2:20:00
the show which shows up in the
apps. We have DHA unplugged. And
2:20:06
I think I put Korean zookeeper
in there. If you have another
2:20:08
one, you put that one in there,
let me know. And I'll add it.
2:20:13
It's exactly that same thing.
It's log rolling only for
2:20:15
podcasts, which is a great
discovery mechanism. You can
2:20:19
also follow us on what is that
thing called? No agenda?
2:20:24
social.com which I no longer pay
for it? No, it's not. It's it's
2:20:30
very disappointing.
2:20:31
John C Dvorak: I am now doing
the three the three main posts
2:20:35
every so often.
2:20:36
Adam Curry: Is that what you're
doing
2:20:37
John C Dvorak: it dedicated to
you?
2:20:39
Adam Curry: Thank you. So you
just post three main things is
2:20:42
that once a day memes movie, no
meme memes to you as a mean
2:20:47
thing, but
2:20:47
John C Dvorak: it means memes.
Yes. Yeah. Boys three.
2:20:51
Adam Curry: Honestly, I've been
looking at the no agenda.
2:20:53
Telegram channels. Now. I mean,
that's better. As to me. It's
2:20:56
better. It's what happens is
2:20:58
John C Dvorak: you I don't even
know you had a channel. Oh, I
2:21:00
Adam Curry: didn't create it.
This is Oh, by the
2:21:04
John C Dvorak: way, you gotta
send me an invite.
2:21:05
Adam Curry: Oh, no, you can just
join. There must be 50. No
2:21:08
agenda channels and groups on
telegram. And I hate telegram.
2:21:11
But it's the signal to noise
ratio. I can't post I can't do a
2:21:16
reply. or anything. Everyone's
like, it's negative. It's all
2:21:21
negative. No one's nice to me.
And you know, if you're not
2:21:25
nice, then then I'm
2:21:26
John C Dvorak: just not going to
be nice to my wife told me Yeah,
2:21:30
but
2:21:30
Adam Curry: they're not. And you
know, I get all triggered. And
2:21:33
then there's all these memes.
And there's a lot of you know,
2:21:37
polarizing things. We're the
most blocked and hated group on
2:21:40
the fediverse.
2:21:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it
shows. Yeah, we are the block
2:21:45
group they hated. The fediverse
does not like is the whole fair
2:21:49
versus a joke.
2:21:50
Adam Curry: Well, there's that.
But it's, it's something about
2:21:56
hate the game, not the players.
It's something about social
2:22:00
media. That just it's it's
broken. It's evil. It's the
2:22:04
devil. I think
2:22:05
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. And I brought up
2:22:06
the Marshall McLuhan concepts.
And I think you nailed it. It's
2:22:10
the medium is the message. Yes.
2:22:12
Adam Curry: And I'm, I'm happy
to I mean, I love our community.
2:22:15
I love no agenda. In fact, we
have, we did this meet up the
2:22:21
super spreader, seething,
infected human resources, meet
2:22:26
up
2:22:26
John C Dvorak: Indiana of the
affected Indiana meetup.
2:22:30
Adam Curry: And I asked, this
will be our end of show because
2:22:33
we didn't really get any new
mixes. So I asked, you know,
2:22:38
instead of just saying, because,
you know, there's a lot of
2:22:40
people there. And you do just
the two minutes of people thank,
2:22:44
you know, like, Hey, it's me.
It's me. It's
2:22:47
John C Dvorak: me. It's saying
lotta handshaking letter.
2:22:49
Adam Curry: I'm talking, talking
about them out of control,
2:22:51
talking about the meetup report.
2:22:53
John C Dvorak: That's what I
meant, right? So
2:22:54
Adam Curry: instead of that, I
said, Why don't you do a meter
2:22:57
report and tell us what you're
thankful for. And that shows the
2:23:02
real no agenda community. And
I'm going to play that as our
2:23:05
end of show that's we did is I
know, I knew you'd love it. It's
2:23:09
about sad. It'd be right after
the good news, too, which is,
2:23:12
man, there's so much good stuff
coming. If you leave now you are
2:23:16
bad and stupid.
2:23:18
John C Dvorak: But that's I
know, see that you condemning
2:23:20
them already know. But
2:23:21
Adam Curry: the trolls don't
leave. Because the troll room is
2:23:24
the place where you can do this
stuff. I love it troll me all
2:23:27
you want on the troll room is
perfect for that. It's
2:23:30
ephemeral, it goes away. And you
can do that in a modern podcast
2:23:34
app too. So value for value is
what we've been running on. I
2:23:38
think by now you realize that if
you got this far, and you're a
2:23:40
first time listener, maybe
second time, you're like, how do
2:23:43
these guys do all this stuff
without getting the platform?
2:23:46
Well, we don't. We don't have a
platform, first of all, but
2:23:51
we're gonna say we
2:23:54
John C Dvorak: create our own
platform. That's what everyone
2:23:57
should do is not an impossible.
Yes. And we instead of relying
2:24:01
on a third party, we spend the
money to create our own
2:24:06
platform, so nobody can kick us
off of it. Because we we own it.
2:24:10
Adam Curry: Yes. And we do this
with, with our producers who
2:24:13
help us in, in many ways, a lot
of the technology stuff that has
2:24:18
been done, we haven't done,
we've never built a website for
2:24:21
ourselves that I can remember or
maybe one of the first ones all
2:24:26
of that has been done by
producers as part of our time,
2:24:28
talent and treasure and the the
way it worked with value for
2:24:30
value, which is a concept which
is catchy catching on in all
2:24:33
kinds of areas. Music now,
people are seeing it as truly
2:24:37
the, the way out. Because
Silicon Valley's model is give
2:24:41
us all your content and we'll
give you nothing. That's their
2:24:45
basic, that's what Spotify does.
That's what they've done to
2:24:48
musicians. That's what they do.
That's what social media is, is
2:24:52
Mark Zuckerberg, like hey, give
me all your Instagram posts.
2:24:54
Give me real tick tock, give it
to me. Give it to me, give him
2:24:57
give it to me, and you get
nothing. So you're working your
2:24:59
slave If you're working for
them, so instead we just say,
2:25:02
Hey, if you got any value out of
the show, if you learned
2:25:05
anything if you if you laughed,
even if you cried if there was
2:25:08
something you didn't know of,
you know what, even if you got
2:25:11
mad at us, that's valuable. And
eventually you'll say, I need
2:25:15
more of that.
2:25:17
John C Dvorak: If I didn't do
that you're a listener with Yes.
2:25:20
Couple of shows. Yeah. And
2:25:21
Adam Curry: what I do is I force
myself to listen to the, to the
2:25:25
pivot ads, I do that to, you
know, to help them. I wish I
2:25:29
could just give them money, I'd
gladly give them money with a
2:25:32
message. I hate you. Here's 50
bucks, I'd give him 500. From
2:25:36
time to time, if I had the
money. Bet I hate you. Here's
2:25:40
here's some value back. Now, one
way, speaking of websites. Let's
2:25:46
see, Sir Paul couture has been
running for for many years, and
2:25:51
I just opened it. Yeah. Is it
running? Is it up? Nope. He's
2:25:55
been running no agenda, art
generator.com, which has been a
2:26:01
just a fabulous resource with
almost 30,000 pieces of art.
2:26:06
Since since he started that, and
we had something before then and
2:26:10
any there was some horrible
incident. He's
2:26:13
John C Dvorak: actually changed
this a couple of times. Yes, he
2:26:15
has changed infrastructure. We
went to headless Drupal and I
2:26:20
went to just headless Ruby on
Rails,
2:26:23
Adam Curry: whatever. So he is
taking advantage of the
2:26:28
explosion in the data center to
bring everything back up, we
2:26:32
hope with the with a new system,
which he was planning anyway.
2:26:37
Whatever we love you, Sir Paul,
good tour. If you can get it
2:26:41
back up. You can if not, we have
a backup, we can always import
2:26:44
that into a new system. We'll
work it out. That's that's part
2:26:47
of the value for value system as
well. So since we didn't
2:26:50
contract someone for 1000s of
dollars
2:26:52
John C Dvorak: a month to
complain about time we know he's
2:26:55
a coder. Its content is
continous the way it is yeah,
2:26:58
it's content
2:26:59
Adam Curry: content. But we
don't have to get all mad
2:27:02
because we're paying you for
this. What are you doing? This
2:27:04
is horrible. Your service is no
good. I knew we should have gone
2:27:07
was as your the WS No, no,
there's none of that. We just
2:27:14
like okay, all right, man. We
know you're working on whatever.
2:27:17
Yeah, we love.
2:27:19
John C Dvorak: Whatever, man. So
yeah, I said part
2:27:23
Adam Curry: of that Kumar,
wonderful artists. And they and
2:27:27
so they've jerry rigged some
system now no agenda. social.com
2:27:30
has been very handy for this.
They've been posting their
2:27:33
artwork. They're tagging Sir
Paul couture. And so we have
2:27:37
been able to at least get some
submissions.
2:27:40
John C Dvorak: It's probably
more work now than ever. Oh, it
2:27:43
Adam Curry: tons of work, tons
of work. And so we Yeah, and we
2:27:48
always select something from
from the offering that we have
2:27:52
there from the value that is
returned to us by ours. And we
2:27:55
love all the value. We can only
choose one of course, and we
2:27:59
will review it will give you
value right back reviewing your
2:28:01
work if we thought it will tell
you why we didn't choose it. And
2:28:04
we want to thank Darren O'Neill,
who likes crappy music as you
2:28:10
can by stand by he knows Stan
nailed it. He could do art every
2:28:16
show. He nailed it with the no
agenda threat level indicator.
2:28:21
Yeah, if you haven't, I mean
this. This was just great when
2:28:24
the and the levels were low,
raised high. Trump and swift.
2:28:30
For Taylor Swift nailed it. So
we're at Taylor Swift threat
2:28:34
level. It was great. Darren,
thank you. It was just
2:28:36
fantastic. There were a couple
others that we discussed. There.
2:28:41
John C Dvorak: A lot of them
were good Dame Kenny Ben's MC
2:28:44
partner was I liked that piece a
lot. You liked the blinking
2:28:47
lights? Yes. Well, they'd like
why didn't Altair computer?
2:28:52
Yeah. Why
2:28:52
Adam Curry: didn't we choose
Dame Kenny Ben's that was the
2:28:55
big mac works with ozempic. Why
did we not choose that? Just
2:28:58
because Sharon was better? Is
2:29:00
John C Dvorak: it because we
liked Darren is better period?
2:29:02
Yeah. And I think it was because
of that swift joke. There
2:29:07
Adam Curry: was the network
spent a lot of time on on the
2:29:11
crocs discussion. Which was
interesting. Yeah, you know why
2:29:17
that was interesting. Let me let
me just go back and remind
2:29:20
everybody of what where that
came from. Go back to Episode
2:29:24
1614. That's very inexpensive. I
wouldn't know you don't get you
2:29:32
wear crocs.
2:29:34
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
crocs at all things.
2:29:35
Adam Curry: You wear Speedos
that look like crocs.
2:29:38
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
Speedos. I don't even know they
2:29:40
made shoes. What is the shoes
you
2:29:41
Adam Curry: had that look like
crocs. Alright, so that was the
2:29:44
conversation. And as part of
that tremendous value, one of
2:29:49
our producers said oh, let me
take you back to Episode 910.
2:29:55
What could be in that episode?
First.
2:29:58
John C Dvorak: The keyboard was
it was The floor probably
2:30:02
happening on the horror would
show what you're losing the
2:30:06
keyboard keyboards on the floor
and I kick it with my This
2:30:09
happened on our last year you
didn't notice
2:30:11
Adam Curry: we just crossed a
picket with a crock.
2:30:14
John C Dvorak: I don't wear
crocs, I wear Speedos.
2:30:16
Adam Curry: Oh no. happened
there.
2:30:23
John C Dvorak: Okay, there was a
brand issues that they had at
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Costco ones that were made by
speedos and they had a slight
2:30:29
resemblance to a crock shoe. Now
I to speedos in play other garb,
2:30:36
never
2:30:37
Adam Curry: we knew it was about
the the shoes.
2:30:41
John C Dvorak: I had have put in
the in the in the safe and the
2:30:48
zipped up that information. And
I have now in denial as to the
2:30:52
fact that those were Speedo
shoes that I had five years ago.
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Adam Curry: The kids call this
receipt, I'm really happy
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John C Dvorak: that the
producers out there have nothing
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better to do dig up a slight
gash.
2:31:18
Adam Curry: That's value for
value right there. That's how it
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works. Do you get it now? Do you
understand? That's value for
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value. Thank you to our artists,
for submitting your artwork. We
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really appreciate it all of you.
I mean, we have now there's a
2:31:35
little extra side issue to the
Art Generator being down all of
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those beautiful chapter images
that Dred Scott does so
2:31:42
diligently for every single
show, which he's been doing it
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for hundreds of shows, and I
think probably about 100 and
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over 100 shows. They were all
linked to the Art Generator
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images. So those of course are
temporarily down as well. So
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he's been working with some
other systems because what we
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does he take a lot it takes a
lot of this artwork that we did
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not choose and puts it into the
chapter images for for each
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individual show. Thank you for
that Drebin Thank you artists.
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We appreciate you so much. And
we also want to thank of course
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the treasurer delivers value and
that means our executive and
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Associate Executive producers
and then a very short list which
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gets us to the 50s Before we get
into our meet up reports and we
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kick it off with Baron not sure
from monument Colorado comes in
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with a satchel of Richard's that
is 111111 and it's a switcheroo
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Hey Adam and John he writes
Baron not sure here I would like
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to call up my sister Mary
Rochelle as a douchebag I can't
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let her be the last one in our
family so I would also like to
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credit this donation to her so
she can get a dee doo dee doo
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she's a nice brother right
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didn't have this one and Obama
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with that? To do the head Oh
goodness gracious. I'm really
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fell down on this one.
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John C Dvorak: Today a little
girl yay.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm looking
for two to the head here.
2:33:21
Where's to the head? Got it. But
2:33:24
John C Dvorak: you're doing that
I'll read the rest hang out a
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little girl. Yeah, please name
her Dame Marie. And she's on the
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list until she finds something
else more fitting be up to her
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for the roundtable. She needs
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Kiante that way we got a nice
Kenzie, thank you guys for your
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courage and F for everything you
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That's
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I left there are green now. Jim
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we're not we except from Russia.
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John C Dvorak: I don't know
about Russia. Not on the Yeah,
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because they gotta cut out cut
them out. Drat. Indy, no agenda
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John C Dvorak: I'm gonna you're
gonna read the next one but
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first I'll read this one's Linda
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Adam Curry: Very nice donation
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Fritz de lunga hit me in the
mouth with some stories about
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COVID. He also mentioned his
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for my teenage years. Adam
curry. That's how I found out
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about the no agenda show. Since
then. I've been hooked and a
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steady listener of your podcast.
Keep up the great work you do
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you guys do? Good. you deduce
me. You've been de deuced and
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call out my douchebag friend
Fritz. Who I have here on board
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with me on my KlM 667 flight to
Austin today. Adam, if you
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happen to have time for a cup of
coffee tomorrow or Saturday, I
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will be honored to meet you. But
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interesting, because if it's too
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long, not only Well, we didn't
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Nomsa was even before I lived in
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Amsterdam, And he's a 747
Captain as his audience, and he
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reached out to me, he texted me.
And he said, Hey, I'm going to
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be in Austin. And you want to
hook up and have some coffee. I
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said, Well, I live in Hill
Country. Can you guys come out
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here? I texted him back. I
didn't text me back. So somehow
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we missed the communications.
And I'm really sorry. Yeah.
2:40:20
Because, well, they'll
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John C Dvorak: fly back out
there again.
2:40:23
Adam Curry: There's nothing more
fun than hanging out with with
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747 captains because we could
have learned a few things I'm
2:40:29
sure. So tailwinds guys, thank
you very much. Sorry, we missed
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each other. And that is it for
executive and Associate
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Executive producers for episode
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1615. John's going to take us
through the 50s and I'll get our
2:41:10
meetups
2:41:12
John C Dvorak: began by saying
the total number of donations
2:41:14
over 50 Today is 29. Yeah,
2:41:17
Adam Curry: it's not a lot. We
have a million people who
2:41:20
listen,
2:41:21
John C Dvorak: we have a million
well, almost a million people
2:41:25
missing nine or 1000. And we
have 29,000 on the mailing list,
2:41:30
which means and the mailing list
alone, one out of 10,000 people
2:41:36
contributed to the show and you
know well done
2:41:38
Adam Curry: everybody. Thanks
for that. Of 10,000 Well, how
2:41:43
you doing all that value from I
guess good one out of 10,000
2:41:45
sends us something thanks. love
my job and I love my truck.
2:41:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. I
will redo the math is one out of
2:41:57
1000 but it's still low. Mary
Rochelle in bauxite. What a
2:42:01
great name for a ton they must
have. I'm guessing there's
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aluminum. Bauxite, Arizona,
Arkansas. 121 13 And there's a
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birthday there's a switcheroo
birthday call for Alex or
2:42:14
Rochelle Rochelle. And he needs
a biscuit for
2:42:19
Adam Curry: his birthday. Well,
not just the biscuit for the
2:42:21
birthday. Isn't there a deducing
in there as well? I thought is
2:42:24
there I think so.
2:42:26
Unknown: You've been d do they
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always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.
2:42:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, Elizabeth
Gunther or Gunther? Probably
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Gunther in Texas. Round Rock,
Texas. 100. Michael Butler's San
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Francisco guest Michael buck.
Rock'n'roll geek
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Adam Curry: show, baby.
2:42:45
John C Dvorak: That's right. And
he says he's no longer a
2:42:47
douchebag you have to do Sheesh.
2:42:51
Unknown: De douche to
2:42:53
Adam Curry: me. I note that this
January he will be inducted into
2:42:57
the podcast Hall of Fame. He
will chess and rightly so. He is
2:43:04
one of the Oh geez. Way back.
He's definitely been doing it
2:43:07
forever. Rock'n'roll geek show.
Michael Butler. Thank you very
2:43:10
much brother.
2:43:11
John C Dvorak: Sir Bryce said I
should go visit you know he's
2:43:14
I've been to his house. He's
it's a very interesting part of
2:43:17
town.
2:43:18
Adam Curry: You use herbicides.
You used to get beef together.
2:43:21
Yeah,
2:43:22
John C Dvorak: we used to
actually, we were well we bought
2:43:25
also bought a pig together. And
I think it was a pig that were
2:43:29
the story. He tells the story
because I couldn't I was doing I
2:43:32
think I was working on this
show. He went out to the to the
2:43:35
auction. And it was either a cow
or a pig. But whatever it was,
2:43:38
the story is, is he went to the
auction. And he he bought a pig.
2:43:45
He bought the animal but he was
a low bid. And not only was it a
2:43:49
low bid, he got the thing.
Cheap. We had it butchered and
2:43:53
three legs. No, no, it was a
fine animal. But the thing was
2:43:57
that he had to mention that the
little girl who sold the animals
2:44:01
and in tears and and he kind of
thought that was kind of fun.
2:44:09
Adam Curry: And then when did
you drop him as a friend? You
2:44:11
just just said that we've
dropped him as a friendly I'm
2:44:15
not calling you
2:44:15
John C Dvorak: in now. Now we
somehow he got into butchering,
2:44:21
and I haven't really talked to
him since
2:44:23
Adam Curry: he was actually he
was doing meats for dogs. Oh
2:44:27
John C Dvorak: yeah. And
actually says we now own a
2:44:29
kennel.
2:44:31
Adam Curry: Like they should get
in touch with them.
2:44:33
John C Dvorak: I think but I
think Butler should provide the
2:44:35
treats. I agree. Okay, I'll get
a hold of them because Brian
2:44:39
Tobias and and Gardner, Kansas
eight D 808. And Kevin
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McLaughlin in Concord, North
Carolina 808 And he says boobs
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are the original stress balls.
Curiously, he's with this
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donation saying was so short,
that he's right up against it
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was so 606 And he doesn't have a
comment on that. 606 donation.
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Daniel Mudge, Fairborn, Ohio
606, Baron of BNA in Nashville,
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Tennessee. 5993 submode paths in
memory Louisiana to D 510.
2:45:20
Adam Curry: A nice note, let me
just read this, because this
2:45:22
just shows you how this has
value. And we got value back.
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Thank you. I've been dealing
with serious medical emergencies
2:45:29
with my elderly parents in
September 30. I was listening to
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the global donut episode in the
hospital today and laughed for
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the first time all month
listening to you and Adam break
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down NPR. Thank you. Thank you.
2:45:43
John C Dvorak: Global donut.
Paul have Rev. Re. Paul growth
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rigged. And for Greg den Hill,
frozen Hill. Yeah, I'm sure he
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doesn't pronounce it that way in
Madison, Wisconsin, but he did
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contribute 55 Garis or jerris
Corporation. I think it's Garis.
2:46:05
I don't know. Arlington,
Virginia. 53. He's a job karma
2:46:09
for the circus of the pike and
we'll put that at the end.
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Cameron. Cameron Linga in North
Branch Minnesota nuts 5161 Bad
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idea supply. And for some
reason, we don't know where they
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are anymore. $50.50 And now we
have a loved idea, by the way a
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bad idea supply. William Kidwell
in Dover, Delaware. 50. These
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are all 50s Just the name and
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Michelle petty in Grand Forks,
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ended hood in orange Vale,
California. And that wraps our
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donation segment up for show
1615 next show 1616 That should
2:47:22
give you some ideas.
2:47:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, will it give
us some ideas?
2:47:27
John C Dvorak: I can't think of
any.
2:47:29
Adam Curry: Now I have a this is
a second winner of the indie na
2:47:32
meet up email. No, ma'am. I'm
just gonna read this because I'm
2:47:36
not sure what the back office
wants me to do. But there's a
2:47:39
whole bunch of raffle winners
and their donations are coming.
2:47:42
So oh, this is from John Jones.
I'll read it. Oh, hey, Adam. And
2:47:44
John. Just want to thank Adam
and the keeper for coming to the
2:47:47
Indianapolis meetup. I was one
of the lucky winners of the
2:47:50
raffle for an executive producer
level donation. So he wasn't
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unlisted. I was he.
2:47:56
John C Dvorak: But there was
somebody on the list from there.
2:47:59
We have to make these. This has
to be consolidated. We can't
2:48:04
stretch out one meet up over 10
shows.
2:48:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, well,
especially because I don't see
2:48:09
it here. So well. It'll be in
for Thursday. So John, yeah,
2:48:13
it'll be in for Thursday, I
guess. Yeah. Because all those
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are Executive Associate
Executive Producer levels. So
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that will work that out. John
Jones will work it out. Don't
2:48:25
worry about it. Thank you very
much to our execs, our Associate
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Executive producers and of
course, everybody who came in
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they really help during donation
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know, the total is 29 above 50.
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You can do any type of number
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something periodic once every
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make it something recurring.
We're very appreciative. You can
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Adam Curry: And thank you again
for everybody who supported us
2:49:12
here for the no agenda Show
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Adam Curry: and now I understand
why that was on the list. Why
2:49:44
that? John Jones donation was
there because he has a birthday
2:49:47
and he wishes his human resource
Desmond a happy birthday who
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turned one year old on December
6. Baron or BNA wishes his
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smokin hot wife Jessica a good
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place or takes place tomorrow.
are on the 11th and Marie
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Rochelle wishes her brother Alex
Rachele, a happy birthday we say
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happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best podcast in the
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deal I'm on the offensive life
is a scam in the morning is
2:52:03
robbed from Richmond.
2:52:04
This is their from Richmond.
I've
2:52:05
got ants in the morning another
Chris from King George. This is
2:52:08
Roger rowdy. Stop the hammering
round Dave Starkweather. Happy
2:52:13
to be here. We're protecting?
2:52:19
Adam Curry: Yes, Tom
Starkweather. And his much
2:52:21
better half Alex and the whole
crew there and spoke Central.
2:52:24
Thank you all very much. Here's
the five fort first Thursday
2:52:27
meet up report. All right. This
is Sir Matt with the five forks
2:52:30
first Thursday. No agenda meet
up in the morning to you. Hey,
2:52:34
this
2:52:34
Unknown: is Gary. My wife didn't
want to come but she's curious
2:52:36
what this is about. So when I
get home, I'm going to give her
2:52:39
the whole load
2:52:40
in the morning and thank you for
your courage and we're not
2:52:43
drinking seltzer.
2:52:44
Hey, this is Joe. I'm just
trying not to get roasted.
2:52:46
Hey, this is Drew it's my first
meetup and everybody has a tiny
2:52:50
amygdala and I love it.
2:52:51
Don't eat me Joe Biden, you
scary so scary day.
2:52:55
Adam Curry: And of course we'll
have that six minute what you're
2:52:58
thankful for meetup report from
Indianapolis. Of course. Besides
2:53:02
that, we got the Cuf or RSV or
Zika or Ebola whatever it is
2:53:08
pick your choice. We had a great
time and we really love all you
2:53:11
guys out there it was it was a
lot of fun. We have one meet up
2:53:14
happening to know on Thursday
nothing today on the 14th the
2:53:18
Mile High meet up 630 Mountain
Time Lincoln's Roadhouse in
2:53:22
Denver, Colorado, and up until
Christmas let's see Gloucester,
2:53:26
Virginia, Epping, New Hampshire,
Fort Worth Texas, Cincinnati,
2:53:29
Lansdale, Pennsylvania, Los
Angeles, Columbus, Longview,
2:53:33
Texas, Alpharetta, Georgia,
North Carolina Sofia, Sofia,
2:53:38
Bulgaria Hello, Sofia, I do want
a report from you. After
2:53:41
Christmas, Indonesia Lombok,
which is next to Bali on the
2:53:45
28th Hayward, Wisconsin, the
Virgin Islands towards Tortola
2:53:49
Tortola Virgin Islands. I'll be
on Jordan Cola, Tortola on on
2:53:54
the first nice, Denver, Colorado
Fort Wayne, Indiana
2:53:58
Indianapolis, Indiana Oh, to
spread it out by a week luckily.
2:54:02
And Albany, California that's
the get John out of the house
2:54:05
meet up and Anna, Texas on the
eighth which will be for the big
2:54:11
solar eclipse. Those are just
the meetups that I have listed.
2:54:16
There's many more no agenda
meetups.com one of those great,
2:54:19
no agenda producer actually
night Daniel, manage and set up
2:54:24
that whole website, which is
much better than meet ups.com
2:54:28
which we were using back in the
day. So it's no agenda ups.com
2:54:32
Wait until you hear the
wonderful human resources or end
2:54:35
of show MCS and what they were
thankful for. I think that when
2:54:38
you hear that you will say yes,
this is a group so diverse. If
2:54:41
every Meetup is like that I need
to be at one and you know what
2:54:44
you do? It's the perfect
companion to your no agenda
2:54:47
podcast. Go to no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find a
2:54:50
meet up near you start one
yourself. It's easy and always a
2:54:53
party to go hang out with Dyson
day. You won't be triggered
2:55:07
everybody feels the same and I
love what I do. That's the one.
2:55:19
That's the one.
2:55:21
John C Dvorak: I only have one
eye so oh
2:55:23
Adam Curry: goodness. Okay
2:55:30
shall I play it? No.
2:55:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I might as
well. What's a holiday?
2:55:35
Adam Curry: Nice fry. What's a
holiday? That's pretty good. Let
2:55:38
me see what I have. That's a
wow. Mm hmm. And if you love
2:55:44
America, you throw money in its
hole.
2:55:49
John C Dvorak: You throw money
what in this hole? Disgusted is
2:55:53
I don't wear crocs wear Speedos.
2:55:55
Adam Curry: That's an ISO.
That's a nice oh, if I ever
2:55:57
heard one.
2:55:59
John C Dvorak: I would say,
Well, I think there's a toss up
2:56:03
there we have between ankle fry.
2:56:05
Adam Curry: Yes. On vocal fry.
What the hell is that? Yeah. And
2:56:10
then that's a wow, I
2:56:12
John C Dvorak: think the WoW is
better. Really? I
2:56:14
Adam Curry: was gonna say the
vocal fry actually,
2:56:15
John C Dvorak: well used the
vocal fry.
2:56:17
Adam Curry: I think I think
that's a little bit better. Let
2:56:19
me let me just listen to it
again. What's the whole is that
2:56:23
is put is this gray fry is a
decent fry. To good fry. Let me
2:56:29
see what time is it? It's almost
that time? I would say it is
2:56:33
that time. So it's time What
time is it? You know, it's the
2:56:37
time it's, you know, it's the
thing, man, it's the time what
2:56:40
time is everyone saying? Well,
it's the time and now it's time
2:56:44
for Google. GCD good news, the
JCD This is how we end every
2:56:51
single show these days. To get
you in a good mood and feeling
2:56:54
great for the few days in
between shows. Because we know
2:56:57
the world can be tough. If you
don't have your media
2:57:00
deconstructors right next to you
all the time to hold your hand.
2:57:03
So good news will put you in the
right mood. What do you have for
2:57:06
good news, John?
2:57:09
John C Dvorak: One of the
another animal story.
2:57:14
Adam Curry: Oh, this good news.
Here we
2:57:15
Unknown: go. Our feel good.
Friday starts with a
2:57:17
heartwarming story out of
October hung county a Courageous
2:57:20
Cat is reunited with his family
after he was missing for two
2:57:25
years. Three years this sticks
the ActiveHybrid County Humane
2:57:28
Society shared how this
incredible feline found his way
2:57:32
home. It's all thanks to a
microchip. This is a small
2:57:35
device implanted under a pet's
skin carrying vital information
2:57:39
like contact details. It became
fish sticks ticket back to his
2:57:43
family after a long separation.
The Animal Shelter says this
2:57:47
story highlights the importance
of microchipping your Furbabies
2:57:51
a simple act can make miracles
like this one happen.
2:57:55
A good news story from JCD happy
vibes for me and we all feel
2:58:03
better now he's done his bit. To
back to reality that's turning
2:58:09
to shit. Beautiful.
2:58:11
Adam Curry: Beautiful, John,
that was beautiful, man. I
2:58:13
really loved it. Nothing like a
cat story of furbaby
2:58:19
John C Dvorak: disappear for two
years and they're talking about
2:58:22
great These chips are when they
get the cat back home like you
2:58:25
know within a month.
2:58:27
Adam Curry: Cat didn't want to
go home. Cats like no, you name
2:58:30
this dicks.
2:58:32
John C Dvorak: fish sticks.
2:58:35
Adam Curry: That's the problem.
Don't name your name and give me
2:58:39
a K give me an animal a good
name. People don't do anything
2:58:42
like that. All right, time for
me to hit the anvil. But here's
2:58:50
your real good news. We'll be
back on Thursday with another
2:58:54
JAM PACKED episode full of media
deconstruction to help you get a
2:58:58
better view of your world which
is distorted by those douchebags
2:59:02
and mainstream media. And many
alternative media turns out
2:59:05
these days can't trust your
podcast anymore. It's getting
2:59:08
crazy. Coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country
2:59:11
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
2:59:14
Adam curry,
2:59:15
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain
2:59:19
I'm Jhansi Dvorak coming
2:59:20
Adam Curry: up next, I know
agenda stream.com Troll room.io
2:59:23
And on the modern podcast apps,
our buddy nick the rat with
2:59:27
episode 415 from the sewer. And
remember we got our nd thank
2:59:32
yous coming up right now until
next time, remember us at the
2:59:34
borak.org/na in the morning
everybody a hui Hui and adios
2:59:39
mofos
2:59:42
Unknown: Hello, this is de Maria
and this is Sir Mark at a super
2:59:46
amazing meetup. We are so
thankful for the wonderful tribe
2:59:49
we have here and especially from
Adam and Tina joining us today.
2:59:53
Merry Christmas everyone
2:59:55
Gary from Greenwood and I'm
thankful for obviously my health
2:59:58
my family, my friends. and no
agenda podcast and friends
3:00:02
Shannon
3:00:02
visiting from Fort Wayne is that
climate change in your pocket?
3:00:04
Are you happy to see us we are
thankful for too many eggs.com
3:00:07
This Mike from Fort Wayne I'm
thankful for Tito and and have
3:00:10
him and doing the no agenda
podcast and all the producers
3:00:13
that make it happen may very
well be the secret to saving
3:00:17
this nation.
3:00:18
This is Damon baseball from
Indianapolis and I'm thankful
3:00:20
for amazeballs This
3:00:22
is Mike the POLYMATH from
Westfield, Indiana and I'm
3:00:24
grateful for podcasts check mine
out easy peasy podcast.
3:00:28
Hi this is Sir Robert and I'm so
grateful for the podcasting 2.0
3:00:32
project. Thank you Adam has
served PBR streaking thank you
3:00:36
in the morning John and Adam and
I'm most thankful for the Advent
3:00:39
season in
3:00:40
the morning Dame Trinity having
a great time so thankful for all
3:00:44
the people that showed up and
for served PBR street gang for
3:00:48
36 years. It was Guzman
3:00:49
in the Midwest from Branzburg.
Indiana I'm most thankful for no
3:00:52
agenda nation
3:00:54
Dame Cindy of the Tito's from
Carmel, Indiana. Thank you for
3:00:56
your courage.
3:00:57
Hi Tim John and Adam daughter
from Indianapolis and I am
3:01:00
thankful for my mother
3:01:02
five syrup of the maple that's
syrup of the Bible with a K and
3:01:06
I'm thankful for in the morning,
sir Ted
3:01:11
from Indianapolis and I am
forever grateful for my partner
3:01:14
of 40 years my wife named Marina
del of the snickerdoodles who
3:01:17
wishes she could be here rather
than being at home or recovering
3:01:20
from knee replacement surgery. I
love you though to be Ryan
3:01:23
de Blasio from Fishers Indiana.
I am most thankful for my
3:01:27
laughing wife and two human
resources
3:01:29
sir Larry here from Columbus,
Ohio and I am thankful for
3:01:33
Central Ohio meetups going on a
year and a half
3:01:35
Michelle from Broad Ripple
thankful for my family. We are
3:01:39
five generation strong
3:01:40
sir scoops coming up from
Cincinnati on mountain dead I'm
3:01:44
most thankful for the banter
between two dudes keeping us
3:01:47
sane for 16 years please pirate
This is douchebag Nate from
3:01:51
Cincinnati, Ohio on the top of
mountain dead I'm most grateful
3:01:54
for my partner in crime Baron
scoops and our construction of
3:01:58
the dead verse
3:01:59
April Kyle Carmel, Indiana and I
am thankful that we are not
3:02:03
locked down and we are here
gathered together
3:02:05
in the morning. This is Dave The
broke air traffic controller.
3:02:08
I'm most thankful for my job
that I can not only drink party
3:02:10
and smoke on the weekends but
also while on duty in
3:02:13
the morning. This is the
anonymous controller from
3:02:16
Franklin, Indiana and I am also
thankful for my job as an air
3:02:19
traffic controller. Now let's
get these drinks going. I gotta
3:02:21
be at work by 10 This is John
John Smith cordial Indiana I am
3:02:24
thankful for my human resource
Desmond who's 21 year old and
3:02:27
two days this is Jared from
Greenwood and this Wednesday I
3:02:31
have dinner with a foam finger
executive. This is Sir Brian
3:02:34
with an AI from Austin, Texas
and I am thankful for my AI and
3:02:38
generated girlfriend. Hi I'm
Jane Karen and I'm so Bradley
3:02:41
from the Lagrange Kentucky we're
thankful for each other and for
3:02:44
the best Destiny universe. This
3:02:46
was Raymond H from hold
Michigan.
3:02:48
Glad to be down here.
3:02:49
And indeed I am thankful that I
have not had to eat the bugs
3:02:52
yet.
3:02:53
John from Vincennes, Indiana and
I'm grateful for no agenda.
3:02:56
Hello I'm Joshua kromm from
Carmel, Indiana and I'm most
3:02:59
thankful for my sobriety
3:03:01
anarcho Daniel from
Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm most
3:03:03
grateful for my smokin hot wife,
Riley
3:03:05
stone, Indianapolis, Indiana and
I'm most grateful for my
3:03:09
parents.
3:03:09
I'm Reagan I'm from Indianapolis
and I'm most grateful for my
3:03:12
siblings and my parents.
3:03:14
My name is Keith stone from
Indianapolis and I'm thankful
3:03:17
for my family. My name is Macy
I'm from Indianapolis and I'm
3:03:20
thankful for Christmas school
curd bottler or single scholar
3:03:23
from South Bend Indiana grateful
my parents are still alive. Hi,
3:03:27
I'm Chris Keller and from
Streamwood, Illinois, and I'm
3:03:30
most grateful for my health my
family and having the
3:03:33
opportunity to be retired and
enjoy
3:03:36
it in the morning. My name is
Leisha. I'm from Carmel,
3:03:38
Indiana, and I am most thankful
for my job my boyfriend and just
3:03:42
being a good place in life
3:03:43
sir Ohio blood from now Ohio and
I'm thankful for Adam and Tina
3:03:47
and
3:03:48
I'm the blog Sheila Rebecca man
so playdough from Ohio also and
3:03:52
I'm thankful for my faith and
3:03:53
my family. Hello, this
3:03:55
is Sir Mikey boss,
3:03:56
the Irish Catholic center in
town from Evansville. I am most
3:03:59
grateful for my reversion to the
faith and 2017 and for being
3:04:04
here among the no agenda tribe.
3:04:06
I'm Sean. I'm Carrie.
3:04:07
We're from Avon, Indiana, and
we're thankful for being here.
3:04:10
Hi,
3:04:10
I'm Karen and I'm from the
region aka St. John Indiana and
3:04:14
I'm thankful for the hobby the
family and the smarts to know
3:04:17
when to resist
3:04:18
or Jake Madison Indiana most
thankful for SPECO sir Trent
3:04:22
from Zionsville Indiana and I'm
most thankful for six fingered
3:04:25
AI women John from Bloomington
thankful that Bitcoin isn't
3:04:29
quite to 200,000 because Adam is
still podcasting. Paul O'Connor
3:04:33
from Bloomington Indiana
thankful to have all you guys
3:04:36
with me. Hey, this
3:04:37
is Kristen from Bloomington and
I am thankful for carbon credits
3:04:41
my family and the best podcast
in the universe. This
3:04:44
is Joe driver says student the
quarter from Zionsville and I'm
3:04:47
thankful for my smokin hot wife
Nicole
3:04:49
Brittany Shavers Zionsville,
Indiana
3:04:51
I am also thankful for Joe's
smokin hot wife Nicole. Hey,
3:04:54
this is Connor slush neroca from
Arcadia, Indiana. I'd say what
3:04:58
I'm most grateful for would be
my family. both the natural and
3:05:01
the no agenda family. This is
Kyle
3:05:03
from Zionsville, Indiana. I'm
grateful for my amazing parents
3:05:06
who follow me and my wife all
the way to Zionsville from
3:05:08
Florida.
3:05:09
I'm Steve shaver. I'm from
Zionsville, Indiana and I'm
3:05:11
thankful for two friends that
have opened up and independent
3:05:15
health surgery center that are
breaking the mold. I'm Nicole
3:05:18
Molinero from Zionsville,
Indiana and I'm thankful for God
3:05:22
and critical thinkers
3:05:23
in the morning. I'm Sam from
Paris, France, and I'm most
3:05:26
grateful for all my friends here
in Indianapolis. This is Sir
3:05:29
becoming heroic from shareable
Indiana and I'm thankful that I
3:05:33
never had to partake in the jab.
Hi,
3:05:35
I'm Brett from Carmel and I'm
most thankful for my
3:05:38
relationship with Jesus Christ.
This is Sir spooky from Chicago,
3:05:41
Illinois.
3:05:42
I am most thankful for
3:05:43
all of the caretakers out there.
My name is Rory from Detroit and
3:05:47
this Christmas season I'm most
thankful for long live family
3:05:51
members and long friendships.
Andrea
3:05:53
diazo from Fishers Indiana here
with my smoking hot husband and
3:05:57
I am thankful for him and my two
human resources.
3:05:59
This is Anthony seven vike out
of Hamilton from Westfield,
3:06:03
Indiana and I am most grateful
for our Lord and Savior Jesus
3:06:06
Christ sir Craig of the dark
Boone from Westfield, Indiana.
3:06:10
I am most thankful for my smokin
hot wife. Hi, this
3:06:12
is Dame Amy of the shining sun
from Westfield, Indiana and I'm
3:06:16
most grateful for my smokin hot
3:06:18
husband. Hello, this is Walter
Olinsky and this year I'm
3:06:21
thankful for the birth of my
Lord and Savior Victoria Nuland.
3:06:35
MOPO boruch.org/in What the hell
is that?