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Adam Curry: China because China
China China, Adam curry, John C.
Devora. December 14 2023. This
is your award winning your
nation media assassination
episode 1616. This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: monitoring the
informed memories and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
John C Dvorak: curry in from
Northern Silicon Valley where
I've come to the conclusion that
Drew Barrymore is an annoying
phony. I'm John C. Dvorak,
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Of all the
people, I would think you talk
about Drew Barrymore would be
low, close to the bottom of the
list. What happened? How did you
how did you even come on? I
mean, her show was on during the
day. It's
John C Dvorak: also on locally,
it's, it's on during the day,
but it's also on 1130 at night.
Oh, really? Yeah. They should
late night for some reason.
Adam Curry: That's, I mean, does
anyone watch regular broadcast
TV anymore?
John C Dvorak: I do. Where do
you think I get these clips? I
mean,
Adam Curry: I mean, normal
people. I mean, the normal
people still watch this. And
everyone like just Netflix in
streaming of numbers. There's
numbers. There's numbers. Yeah,
they got numbers, but it's not
like old numbers, not like
number go
John C Dvorak: old numbers.
Those were numbers, numbers.
That's when we were working in
television. 100 million people
would watch one show. We got
Limo
Adam Curry: Service and our
money in a brown paper bag. And
we're those days. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Those days are
over.
Adam Curry: And that was cable.
Those days are long gone. Long
gone. Oh, man. There's so much
going on. There's a lot of fun
things to talk about. There is
really Yes. I'm excited. Yes,
yes, it is. This what? Well,
there's there's the obvious
marketing that happens every it
happens once a year. Once a
year, we got to go and we've got
to go promote the military
industrial complex. Once a year.
What not the militant? No, for
the for the NDA. You know, this
is the $800
John C Dvorak: American public?
Yeah. $808
Adam Curry: million. Yeah. So of
course, you're not gonna hear
what's really in the bill. I
have started to read it. It's
it's another doozy. Matt gates,
though, I'll give it to him. At
least he stood up. And he said,
No, no, no. There's a lot of
good in here. But there's a lot
of there's some things we have
to take out.
Unknown: I regret that I rise in
opposition to this NDA, because
there is a great deal of good in
it. But only in Washington, must
we bring a bill to the floor so
that we are able to militarily
confront China, while at the
same time embracing the policies
that make the United States more
like China. There is no desire
on the part of our great armed
services chairman and even the
Democrats we worked with to have
an extension of spying
authorities put in this bill,
when we have already seen those
authorities just totally abused
278,000 violations of the
existing law, as the FBI has
queried information regarding
Americans. When the Obama
appointed Inspector General was
reviewing whether or not the
administration was complying
with existing law. They found
out we were breaking the law 38
times an hour to extend to the
authorities for good word being
violated so that people, the FBI
could do queries on their
neighbors, their co workers,
their ex lovers that's not
belong in the National Defense
Authorization Act.
Adam Curry: Oh, Mr. Gates,
you're on the naughty list? No,
no, no, no.
John C Dvorak: Just stop for a
second and ask yourself, if you
have access to these, these
systems, and you knew there was
no repercussions for abusing
them, but in other words, going
and looking up your neighbors or
looking after your ex
girlfriends? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Now, if there's no consequences,
no, there, there, it appears
there's none whatsoever. Yeah,
that's what you're going to do.
You're going to look up your
pals and everybody in between.
Sure. So
Adam Curry: the way this works,
and we've done this for a number
of years, whenever so Matt Gaetz
is on the wrong side of history
here, obviously. I mean, he shut
up Matt gates, I didn't get that
off C span. You didn't see that
one anywhere. Of course, we've
been tracking the section 702
FISA Bri renewal which is just
barely talked about now. It
shouldn't be renewed, but it
will be there will be and what
we need to do, the way we run it
in America is we have to ratchet
up the fear. Now he had the
right start. He said You know,
well of course we want to be
Good China because China China,
China, you know, we all you need
to do is you need to have oh,
have the alien guy go on Tucker
Carlson because oh, we need more
space stuff for the military.
It's all in there growing
Unknown: tensions between the US
and China now extending to
hundreds of miles above the
Earth.
John C Dvorak: We know when
we're threatened, we need to be
able to counter the threat
Unknown: to get an inside look
at some of the latest American
technology to counter the
Chinese threat. We went to
United Launch alliances factory
in Alabama, working on defenses
against things like Chinese
satellites that can use robotic
arms to drag other satellites.
Meanings China could disable
critical American communication
knights
were actually
able to grapple grab a hold of
one of their defunct GPS or beta
satellites. What
is the concern about them having
that kind of capability in
space,
anything that can interact with
the spacecraft for servicing is
inherently capable of
interacting with a spacecraft to
harm it, or to gather
intelligence from it.
And fears tonight that China is
moving faster than the US in
this new space race. But the
skies just above us just not
only using satellites, but spies
and hypersonic missiles. And
multiple US military officials
tell us perhaps most concerning
multiple officials China
launched a hypersonic missile
capable of orbiting the globe
over and over then suddenly
dropping to Earth before most
missile defenses are spawned by
Russia
had that we continue to look at
that very closely. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: let's go back we
have to look at a lot of this
stuff logically. Yes. So it's
gonna go into orbit and and
orbit over and
Adam Curry: over and over. Yeah,
it's nuclear. Of course. It just
goes forever. We have a big
solar panel on
John C Dvorak: it. So it goes
around and around and then it
drops down. We can't see it. We
don't know that.
Adam Curry: No, not without $886
billion of Boeing all we need we
need modeling box most
Unknown: concerning. China
launched a hypersonic missile
capable of orbiting the globe
over and over, then suddenly
dropping to Earth before most
missile defense systems can
respond most.
We continue to look at that very
closely. But that's a capability
they just recently demonstrated
just
recently examples of fence
lasers, lasers outmaneuver the
speed of light laser, no lasers.
Adam Curry: Now, I'm going to
play play one wow.
John C Dvorak: Got it cost a big
dough.
Adam Curry: I want to play one
more here. Because we have to
remember, we all got to be your
fearful fearful of China.
Unknown: I'm staying on the
topic of China. A scary new
report from The Washington Post
was
Adam Curry: scary. Ha ha scary
new report from the WaPo.
Reading how
Unknown: China's military is
likely behind a number of
hackers who have gained computer
access to the systems of about
two dozen key American
infrastructure facilities around
the nation. Some of the
apparently hacked sites include
a water utility in Hawaii on the
West Coast oh no oil and gas
pipeline report notes that
hackers also tried to gain
access to the Texas power grid
Now thankfully, power grid X is
raising an alarm pack to China
could use hackers to bring down
key services in America from
power plants pipelines and at
the safety of your watering
broken a dying is now is former
director of the cybersecurity
and infrastructure security
traps. Chris Krebs. Welcome
back. am I overstating this? No,
I
read the story.
It seems pretty scary. Scary.
Adam Curry: Pretty scary. This
guy is what kind of push you are
you. So pretty scary. It
Unknown: seemed pretty scary.
Every
Brian you're not alone, is I
talked to national security
officials. They're extremely
concerned about the access that
Chinese cyber actors were able
to get in not just strategic
targets, but more broadly, and
seemingly random or ad hoc
infrastructures across the
country. And they've come to the
simple conclusion that this is
not just about disruption and
destruction for military
purposes, but for also just
broader societal panic and chaos
and escalation of hostility. And
that's
John C Dvorak: isn't that what
these guys are doing now? This
Adam Curry: is what sold it for
me.
John C Dvorak: This panic and
can't cry now. This news worked
for the Chinese. No,
Adam Curry: no. This is where we
bring in now. We couldn't say
Chinese because Hollywood's not
allowed to do that anymore. We
had to say Korea was unclear if
was North Korea or South Korea,
South Korea and Iran right on
time right on target. Enter the
Obama has
Unknown: something wrong with a
TV that's all messed up. It
mean, it
could be over in a couple of
hours.
I'm sure this will turn out to
be a big nothing. We'll look
back on this one day and laugh I
guarantee you
think that ship is heading
towards us. And
what would it what does that
mean? We shouldn't speculate.
You can pick up on what's going
on. And not panic over nothing.
I don't think this is nothing.
We're in this together and
things get back.
There is no going back to
Adam Curry: the finish we're
gonna be okay. Right? Yeah. And
that's my take on the entire
reason for connecting the Obamas
name to leaving the world behind
and otherwise, okay, movie
mediocre at best. What made it
creepy was the whole the Obamas
produced it. And the whole point
because they literally talk
about chaos and fear. That is
that's part of the strategy at
the end of the movie. Spoiler
alert. Sorry. This is all to get
the to get people focused on Oh,
yes, we need oh, we need more
military. It's okay. We need
that $900 billion dollars to go
to Raytheon and Boeing. And what
are they like four companies
now?
John C Dvorak: Lockheed,
Adam Curry: Lockheed. That's
that's what this is all about
Obama, this movie was already
purchased. By the time they got
cut. They were added on to the
bill. They didn't produce
anything. And all they you know,
okay, so a little bit of racism
stuff. And then whatever they
added
John C Dvorak: to racism, and
they didn't add shit,
Adam Curry: John? No, I have the
whole rundown here. They were
brought in after the movie was
cast after it was written. It
was good to go. They're only
attached because they have a $65
million deal. And they have to
put gotta put their name on
something and this legitimizes
the whole fear and chaos. Did
you see the movie by any chance?
Did you see the whole thing?
John C Dvorak: I did you read
the newsletter? Well, I, you
know,
Adam Curry: from the newsletter
didn't seem to me like you would
read the whole thing, because
you put enps in there, which
were explicitly not a part of
this movie. So did you watch it?
John C Dvorak: I watched
probably about a quarter of it.
It's very hard to watch. I
Adam Curry: watched the whole
thing.
John C Dvorak: It's slow move.
Why you must have been bored
stiff? No,
Adam Curry: I reserved for the
show.
John C Dvorak: It's slow moving.
It's slow moving. The only thing
I thought was funny was the
Tesla have seen I think that was
kind of funny. But
Adam Curry: could it be any more
coincidental, we get the Tesla
seen. And today, let's start
Unknown: with the bad news. This
recall affects almost all Tesla
vehicles sold in the United
States. This comes after a two
year investigation by the
National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration. They found that
the company's autopilot mode can
provide inadequate driver
engagement that can lead to
misuse of the system. The
investigation also found that
using autopilot mode incorrectly
or failing to recognize that it
is on can lead to a higher risk
of accident now now. Okay, we
Adam Curry: don't have to hear
the whole report. But the
coincidence of this happening
right now. That was that was
probably the highlight of the
movie. I thought that was
hilarious.
John C Dvorak: I well would. But
it was a plot hole because I
just wanted any one of many.
Because I immediately asked the
question is where are these
Tesla's coming from? And why are
they all on the same road? And
they're smashing into each
other? I mean, who set them on
this path? There was never this
a question. It was never
answered, or ash actually cyber
Adam Curry: hack. It was cyber
and if you watch the movie, what
you saw was a close up that
showed the tags on all these
cars, they had been driven right
off that auto.
John C Dvorak: She looks at the
tag and that's when she realizes
that Tesla's are coming Yes. The
Tesla saw that she she yells at
her husband to get out of the
way because it's going to ram it
into their SUV that sitting
there and so then they dodge a
bunch of Tesla's coming down the
road but that doesn't tell me
that it was anyone who's give me
the Tesla factories are not in
where they are which is in the
East Coast. And it couldn't
there's no dealership with 1000s
of Tesla's and I know they're
all white we
Adam Curry: can both agree that
it's full of holes airplanes
don't come crashing out of the
sky because because of because
of an airplanes are crashing out
of the sky. But the drone
dropping leaflets has no
problem. You know so what was
it? You what you hacked the
system on the plane, every
single one. I mean, all of it
was ridiculous. They have power
for days. Here they have power.
They have power for days. Now
this whole the whole thing was
full of technical holes. I will
say the end. So the little girl
finds a safe room in the
neighbor's, like a bunker in the
neighbors house and they pop on
a ham radio kit. And it's
actually pretty accurate tune to
a frequency that is our TTY. It
has, you know, our TTY coming in
that. Someone who was a ham
operator did that part I was
that was one like, Okay, that
was good. It would have been in
the book that might have been
everything else was just Yeah,
maybe. Okay. And there's a
little bit of racial stuff in
there which gets highlighted.
But the main thing is they
didn't call out China because
they can't because Netflix can't
and Hollywood can't call out
China in their movies. So they
call it curry.
John C Dvorak: You can if you
don't want to get distribution
whatsoever,
Adam Curry: yes, if you don't
want to go anywhere, but I
thought the timing of the
release with all these other
stories, literally with the plot
of the movie, or the payoff is
oh, this is the big strategy of
our adversaries is first you cut
off communications then you
confuse us then you've got chaos
and fear and then we all turn on
each other except at the end of
course, the white Karen mom
holds hands with the with the
black teenage girl. And then
it's all great. We're all going
to survive I guess we'll make it
together. And please pass that
bill. That was the whole point
of it in my mind. Jack people up
John C Dvorak: everything's did
Jack people up.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but this was
special.
John C Dvorak: This was
especially hard to watch. Well,
I
Adam Curry: had no problem
watching the whole thing. Well,
I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry. I don't
know. Maybe when you get my age.
Here you will have you look at
things like this and go I don't
have time for this.
Adam Curry: I woke up this
morning at 330 and realized oh
crap, I'm 59 Where did it go?
Are
John C Dvorak: you going to be
69? No.
Adam Curry: Where did it go? I'm
like What am I doing? What am I
doing my life? I'm watching
these movies.
John C Dvorak: Watching it
through. I can see he's got I
can't get to sleep. Maybe this
will help.
Adam Curry: People like Thanks,
man. You spoil the movie for me.
No, please watch.
John C Dvorak: No, there's no
way you can there's no set this
point there is no such thing as
a spoiler in this movie. No,
there's not. Because there's no
plot twist. There's nothing
you're looking at at all though.
He's an actually an alien. There
was none of that. There was no
plot twist whatsoever. You can't
spoil this
Adam Curry: movie. Oh, you just
go. Now you spoil it that
there's no there's no plot this
plot is actually
John C Dvorak: that is the
spoiler. The spoiler is there's
no spoiler. Yeah. It's like
Fight Club.
Adam Curry: But it was the I
mean, the whole you know, cyber
attack radiation in cities. The
one thing I learned from this is
don't live in a city. That's
what I learned from the movie.
bad place to be. You
John C Dvorak: learn that before
the movie. What do you think I'm
here in Fredericksburg.
Unknown: Now it's time both
free? Yes. Experiment by JC
comparing stories from ABC, CBS.
Adam Curry: That's right,
everybody in the headlines.
Johnson diboride has pulled him
for us. And where
John C Dvorak: do I do?
Actually,
Adam Curry: I know you do. I
have
John C Dvorak: a couple of
choices this week or this show.
And I picked this group this is
a because it's got Richard
angle. Beautiful, beautiful. So
this is about this is the same
exact story if you listened to
the the two we're gonna play
first, which is NBC and ABC in
either order to start with ABC
but these are the stories of of
what's going on in Gaza.
Regarding the tunnels, they're
gonna flood them and it's got
this exact same script quote
from Biden cut exactly the same.
It's as though ABC and NBC are
actually the same newsroom is
pathetic, to be honest about it.
Then we go to CBS at the end,
where they actually introduced
new information, which I thought
was cool, but let's start with
ABC. Tonight,
Unknown: Israel flooding the
vast labyrinth of tunnels under
Gaza where Hamas leaders are
believed to be hiding according
to US officials. This image
circulating online shows what
appear to be recently laid pipes
running from the sea to the
shore. The IDF isn't commenting,
but Israel's fighting to cripple
Hamas is underground tunnel
network of concerns tonight
about the safety of the 135
remaining hostages, including
Americans who may remain in
those tunnels.
There's assertions being made
that there's quite sure there
are no hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know that
for a fact
and President Biden today
without warning to Israel saying
they're starting to lose the
world support because of their
quote, indiscriminate bombing of
Gaza, speaking off camera to
fundraiser, Biden with some of
his harshest criticism yet for
Prime Minister Netanyahu Calling
is government, the most
conservative in Israel's
history. Biden also suggesting
the most right wing Israeli
leaders want, quote retribution,
not only against Hamas, but
against all Palestinians saying
they don't want a two state
solution. Biden's comments
exposing a growing divide
between the two leaders. I mean,
we're all Benjamin Netanyahu
saying today he and the
President disagree about who
will govern Gaza after the war.
But Israel's first offensive
rages on in Gaza. More than
18,000 Palestinians have been
killed according to the Hamas
run health ministry
Adam Curry: now there's our
there's our health ministry
again Yeah,
John C Dvorak: and verify but
they won't say that. Everything
else he says unverified but
there's no verification and by
the way, the most conservative
ever that's that included when
they had that guy with the
eyepatch.
Adam Curry: Moshe Moshe Moshe
Dayan.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, that
Adam Curry: that now that was a
guy. Yeah, it
John C Dvorak: was conservative.
Adam Curry: That was a look.
John C Dvorak: That was a look.
Adam Curry: I was a Look man,
that iPad to do that. I was a
governor.
John C Dvorak: He was a tough
son of a bitch. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he was he was okay.
So
John C Dvorak: we're gonna go to
Richard Engel, who's going to
basically give almost an
identical report is kind of
scrambled a little bit I think
there's also some sound effects.
And as dough Engel is anywhere
but in some hotel
Adam Curry: ops as we know not
to pops, pop tops Yes.
John C Dvorak: And so we're
gonna get a little bit of that
and angles always more
breathless. He's He's very good
at this. Here we go.
Unknown: He's realist, pushing
ahead with its devastating
ground offensive in Gaza,
fighting door to door to
overthrow Hamas. By send tonight
a US official tells NBC News
Israel is pumping seawater to
flood Hamas tunnels in limited
areas of Gaza, saying it's
unclear if it will work. There
is
assertions being made that
there's quite sure there are no
hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know. But I
don't know that for a fact.
Israel's military campaign is
now sparking tensions with the
White House. President Biden
speaking earlier at a fundraiser
today saying Israel is right to
take on Hamas, and has most of
the world supporting them. But
they're starting to lose support
by indiscriminate bombing in
Gaza. And that Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is
government has to change. You
can't say there's no Palestinian
state in the future. The
administration wants the more
moderate Palestinian authority
to take over postwar Gaza. But
does it Yeah, who is rejecting
that? Saying overnight, I will
not allow the entry into Gaza of
those who educate for terrorism
and support terrorism and
finance terrorism stung today,
six a group said the
humanitarian situation in Gaza
is in an apocalyptic freefall,
writing the war has killed more
than 7500 children more than all
global conflicts last year
combined.
Adam Curry: Oh, you forgot to
say according to the Hamas run
health ministry,
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, he said
it as though it was fact. Yeah.
Okay. I find that to be more
Adam Curry: than all children
combined. Does that include
Africa somehow? I don't think
so.
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's a good it's a good bit.
Unknown: A good bit.
John C Dvorak: It's a good bit
Adam Curry: it's a bit Sure.
John C Dvorak: So now we have it
is and so in that vein by the
way I do have some AMY GOODMAN
clips on the same thing and she
takes a different perspective
believe me. But so now we go to
CBS and so CBS really has some
new information is same report
exact same report except there's
new information. They add some
dimension to it. They pass off
the the flooding the tunnel is
is kind of okay. They don't
bring in that Joe Biden exact
same Joe Biden clip is I would
say CBS, if we're going to
analyze the three networks has
is doing the best of the three
doing the best job of the three.
Unknown: The Israeli military is
consolidating control in the
north, demolishing a UN school
allegedly used by Hamas in Beit
Hanoun Israeli soldiers cheered
Israel's defense minister says
fighting may still last for
months
Adam Curry: but you want what
were the Israeli soldiers
cheering about? Like yeah, we
got to school was that what was
that the point of that? is
pretty sick.
John C Dvorak: I have another
clip coming up later in the show
where somebody said a dog
barking or something in the
background makes no sense
whatsoever phone ring i Okay.
We'll play it later. In Beit
Hanoun
Unknown: Israeli soldiers cheer.
Defense Minister says fighting
may still last for months. But
us pressure is rising for Israel
to end its offensive sooner. I'm
looking at new pressure is also
rising against Israel's Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with
anger growing over an alleged
decade long agreement in which
Qatar sent up to $30 million in
cash to from us every month, a
strategy known as buying quiet
then
knew that the money was going
directly into purchasing of
rockets and building of tunnels.
Why didn't they stop the money?
Obviously, this concept blew up
in everybody's face on October
7. And tonight
in Jerusalem protesters braved
the rain to march on the Knesset
demanding Netanyahu bring all
hostages still in Gaza home and
calling for his resignation.
He knew what Hamas is doing with
this money. So he created some
monster. Some days a monster
came out. And
Israel's military has reportedly
started to pump seawater into
Hamas tunnel complexes in order
to destroy them. One concern
though, is that there may be
hostages in some of them. But
President Biden's tonight says
quote, There are assertions
being made. There are no
hostages inside.
Adam Curry: This has been an
interesting narrative. The the
idea that Bibi Netanyahu
himself, created this monster,
and then unleashed it and let it
happen because he loves killing
children. That's basically I
mean, yeah, that's kind of the
assertion. Now, when it comes to
John C Dvorak: a couple of weeks
clip, there's a couple of things
to note. One is the idea of
buying quiet. I like that term
buying quiet. I like it. I like
it, too. I like and if so, Qatar
who everyone thinks is kind of
behind Hamas. From this report,
which which I believe since it
comes from the network that
might have access to
information, the other was
don't. Qatar was actually
sending the 30 million a month
to the Hamas to tell him to just
calm down. So it was buying
quiet. The idea was they were
they were bribing them. So they
weren't the bad guys, Qatar.
They were the guys trying to
hey, here's some more money just
that's in quiet, calm. Congress,
I
Adam Curry: got a report reports
called outsource to Qatar and
the Qatar diaries. I'll just as
if that's, you know, they're all
like all the Hamas guys are in
one apartment, you know, hanging
out, eating kavika and drinking
whatever they have sent in, in
the last 20 years, according to
this report, $4.7 billion to US
universities, which would kind
of possibly explain the stance
that some of the presidents had
of these universities? That's a
lot of money. Yeah, like
hundreds of millions per
University. Yeah. And some of
them not the ones that were on
trial, by the way, but some of
them have, you know, campuses in
Qatar, the Qatar, these don't
seem like, like good guys. You
know, and they're buying
everything they're buying. They
bought soccer, and then just
basically buy it with the World
Cup and then go buy anything we
want.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
free spenders.
Adam Curry: I think everyone who
was there, including Elon Musk
during the the World Cup does
should be condemned for it.
Hanging out with Qataris?
John C Dvorak: Well, nothing in
hindsight, yeah, no, it's not
Adam Curry: good. And Biden is
not doing himself any favors.
Did you see this? I mean, there
was more to that little speech
he did. Now, famously, when he
was a senator many years ago,
there's and we'd haven't played
this clip. Biden is out there
saying, You don't have to be a
Jew to be a Zionist. I'm a
Zionist. You've seen that clip.
Probably.
John C Dvorak: Remember it, he
doubled
Adam Curry: down on it. Just
during this speech,
Unknown: I got in trouble get
criticized very badly about the
southern part of my state and
some of the southern parts of
the country. When 35 years ago,
I said, you don't have to be due
to be a Zionist and I'm a
Zionist.
Adam Curry: This is not at
Harvard, by the way. You don't
Unknown: have to be a Zionist
folks. Were there no Israel,
there wouldn't be a June world
that was safe.
Adam Curry: Now he goes into
some now he goes into a famous
Biden I think is a lie. But
let's listen to the type
John C Dvorak: of document is a
lie.
Unknown: Make no bones about
I've had my difference with some
Israeli leadership. I've known
baby for now. 51 years. He has a
picture on his desk of he and I
when he was a young member of 51
Adam Curry: years he's known him
when Bibi was what at MIT or
where he was. I mean, Bibi
Netanyahu doesn't
John C Dvorak: make any sense.
He just makes this stuff. I
think he's making Israeli
Unknown: service here.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, he was in
foreign service here. Oh, As a
spy at MIT,
Unknown: and I was a 32 year old
senator, payment
Adam Curry: 32 year olds, so
he's now 83 Is that how old he
is? So 51 years ago he was a 32
year old senator. He's not 83 No
of course not lie are nine
Unknown: don't agree the damn
thing had to say about the same
today
Adam Curry: he's not I mean, I
can just imagine if someone's
cringing like oh man, can we
keep where's
John C Dvorak: the 30,000 lies
list for this guy? Can
Adam Curry: somebody please call
YouTube and get that one deeply
pulled off? Oh, it's a short
already Oh no. Oh no, it's on
tick tock for last
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
like to play some my AMY GOODMAN
Unknown: morning. AMY GOODMAN
flippin
Adam Curry: bound All right, Amy
Goodman
John C Dvorak: All right. So we
were gonna play that this is
kind of those three by three
only this is the AMY GOODMAN
version, brother and it's called
the Gaza massacre. Is
Adam Curry: this is this equity
This is equity.
John C Dvorak: This is my
version of equity
Adam Curry: equity. Okay, very
good. All right, guys I've Gaza
massacre.
Unknown: In Gaza. Witnesses say
Israeli soldier shot displaced
people at point blank range
after they raided Chaga Abu
Salah school and the northern
Alfa Luigia area. According to
Al Jazeera newborn babies were
reportedly among the victims
heavy bombardment continues
throughout the Gaza Strip
including in Rafah and crime
Eunice where homes businesses
and schools were leveled and
Israeli attacks.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. It
makes it doesn't but since
sounds credibly blank range Hey,
come here. Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: they Hey, they blew
up the school and then they were
dancing. Yeah, we're happy about
that. They were happy about it.
We heard by them. I want to
point out war sucks. You know,
and war is horrible. But I was
what was I watching? Oh, man,
there was who was it? It was
someone was talking about I
should probably should have
clipped this. Oh, I know. It was
Norman Lear. I was listening to
Norman Lear. Interview from five
years ago. So he was well in his
90s. Then he was talking about
when he when that he recently
had gone to Berlin. He said it
was so weird, because when the
last time I was in Berlin,
wasn't World War Two. But I was
bombing. I do two bombing runs
of Berlin. And I knew that there
would be civilians there and I
was like, screw. The war does
weird things, too. He said,
Yeah. He said that he says
scrubs because they deserve it.
So war does weird things to
people. It's it's not. It's not
a good product. It's not a great
product. It's horrible. Now
John C Dvorak: I wanted to do
there was something in those
really reports Biden saying or
just discussing that you know,
that maybe the international
support is slipping a little bit
and blah, blah, blah. Yeah,
well, let's listen to this UN
votes US ally saying yet yes,
the UN
Unknown: General Assembly
Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to
call for an immediate
humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza.
153 un members approved the
resolution 23 Abstain just 10
including the United States
voted no. Though non binding the
UN vote is another indication of
the mounting isolation of the US
as it continues to support
Israel's assault, which has
killed at least 18,000
Palestinians in a little over
two months. Australia which
abstained from voting for the
General Assembly ceasefire
resolution in October is one of
the latest US allies to split
with Biden Administration's
position. This is Australia's
Foreign Minister Penny Hwang,
Australia,
alongside 152 Other countries
was among the countries which
voted in favor. In doing so. We
joined Canada, New Zealand,
Japan, France, and India and
many other countries. And in
doing so we have said Israel
must respect international
humanitarian law.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is the
general assembly it's not the
Security Council. So it's
irrelevant.
John C Dvorak: The Security
Council's irrelevant to yes
Adam Curry: of course it is. I
have an angle report which I'm
surprised you you missed that
one because I thought this was a
real this tugged at your
heartstrings this was perfect.
In
Unknown: Gaza now, conditions
are beyond miserable, heavy
rains and shattered
infrastructure today led to
floods 50 miles away in the
Palestinian city of Bethlehem.
The mood is sour in the town
where Christians believe Jesus
was born, there are no tourists
or pilgrims, no tree and manger
square Christmas celebrations
have been canceled canceled
solidarity with Gaza inside the
Church of the Nativity. We met
Reverend Dmitry Rahim when
you bring your gifts, think of
the people in Gaza who are
starving today, starving not
only for food but starving for
justice.
In the grotto under the altar,
where the faithful believed the
manger ones lay, we were the
only ones to witness the rituals
that have continued here for
centuries. where it began, no
one is in the mood to celebrate
Christmas. Oh
Adam Curry: wow, that guy needs
to work on his away in the
manger. He was way off key.
John C Dvorak: So that this one
Christmas. That's
Adam Curry: right, Warren
Christmas, Christmas is
canceled. And I think we'll see
that here. We will see people
canceling their Christmas out of
solidarity. I think that will be
a thing that's that would be
there's gonna
John C Dvorak: be solidary tea
with the Ukrainian people in
Miramar? Possibly Sudan is in
solidarity with them. We have
anything Does anyone care about
these other people
Adam Curry: because they're not
starving. As
Unknown: Israel continues to
attack Hamas food is
increasingly scarce in Gaza. A
desperate crowd today rushed to
take whatever food aid they
could and refer. The UN says
half of the population is
starving and diseases are
spreading in southern Gaza. 15
year old roja Bucher today tried
to count the number of times
she's been displaced. We are
tired, so tired. We are begging
for one bite, she says 90% of
Gazans have been driven from
their homes, according to the
UN. Many are now living in the
open desert. That wall is the
Egyptian border. The end of the
line. Nowhere is left that safe
for Gazans for the hostages.
Adam Curry: So Egypt won't let
him give a Hey angle,
John C Dvorak: give them some
food if you're there. Ain't
gonna give him some food.
Adam Curry: No, no, no. It's a
heart wrenching report. He's
really He's talking about the
strings. Now I want to come back
to
John C Dvorak: there or is he is
that was he in some some hotel
sweet?
Adam Curry: Green Screen, of
course, is what these guys do.
John C Dvorak: Far as I know,
they're not letting any American
journalist in the area. So how
was he there?
Adam Curry: He was you. It's I
don't know. He's hanging out
with what's his face was the
Brit who's there now? Yeah, the
intellectual guy. We had a clip
of him, what's his name? The guy
who's a smarty pants. He was
reporting there anyway. It's
horrible. The whole thing's a
mess. source it is. It's a mess,
then it's creating a mess
everywhere. Then at the
universities, ah, mess times
mess. Harvard, Harvard
Unknown: is arguably the world's
best known and most prestigious
university. This institution
which shapes the American elite,
has become a flashpoint in the
US reaction to the Israel Hamas
conflict deprives Palestinians
dignity of burying. This is a
member of the Palestine support
committee, the first student
groups to issue a statement
after October 7, it was
contentious notably because it
accused Israel of being entirely
responsible for the Hamas
attack. Without a word for the
Israeli victims.
It was just intended to
contextualize the situation
within 75 years of occupation
within decades of seeds within
apartheid within settler
colonialism within ethnic
cleansing. And I think it was
supposed to warn of the coming
violence that we would surely
see in weeks to follow.
So why not condemn Hamas?
Harvard refuses to call a
genocide a genocide?
We put that question to the
students who refuse to answer
like, you know,
I'm sorry, I can't answer that
question. There has absolutely
been a double standard in how
mainstream media approaches this
need to recognize the Zionist
regime for what it is. And that
is a settler colonial regime
that seeks to wipe the historic
land of Palestine clean of any
Palestinians in order to create
their own land that excludes and
eliminates other people. Okay,
Adam Curry: so this this kind of
triggered me because in
following on the clips that you
had on last show, were why
somebody really yelled at me
about that. You know, where what
well about the the kid who was
there, you know, well, once we,
John C Dvorak: once we get rid
of Israel.
Adam Curry: Yeah, somebody
asked, because like usually just
laughing at dead people. No, no.
John C Dvorak: Laughing a
Adam Curry: dead people. People
don't listen very well. It
doesn't matter. This is not a
typical universe. Many students
have been brainwashed, there's
an entire. And when I say it's
not about Israel, Hamas is about
colonialism. The West is bad,
white is bad men are bad,
straight white old men very,
very bad, very bad, especially
in the West. And this and this
is an ongoing program. And it's
it's very understandable when
you look at the history, history
listening and coming. When you
look at the history, you know,
what was the last thing they
were protesting for? I mean,
besides the ongoing LGBTQ plus
which usurped lives matter,
black lives matter. And there
has been a long standing, long
standing operation going on
between black Americans and the
Palestinian region. I'm saying
that purposely Palestine. This
has been going on since almost
before I was born. In
Unknown: 1964, Malcolm X
published an article in the
Egyptian Gazette called Zionist
logic, in which he drew
parallels between the oppression
of Palestinians and Africans.
Instead of seeing it as a
religious conflict, Malcolm saw
Israel as a colonial project
serving a wider imperialist
agenda. Seeing European
imperialists wisely placed
Israel where she could
geographically divided the Arab
world. In the same year, Malcolm
was one of the first African
leaders to publicly meet with
the Palestine Liberation
Organization as anti colonial
struggles gain traction through
the world. Freedom for
Palestinians became a touchstone
for the international fight
against imperialism. As black
freedom movements expanded their
worldview to situate their
struggle as part of a global
anti colonial movement.
Palestine also became an
important focal point of their
solidarity. On August 15 1967,
the Student Nonviolent
Coordinating Committee released
a position paper entitled The
Middle East crisis, expressing
support for Palestine and
criticizing us support for
Israel. Organizations such as
the Black Panthers argued that
freedom would never come for
black people in America unless
all oppressed people were free.
The Panthers frequently spoke of
black communities and their
relationship with police as
living under occupation as
internally colonized people.
They were vocal in their support
for Palestine, and met with the
PLO in Algiers in 1969. So
Adam Curry: that's black
panthers and Malcolm.
John C Dvorak: Second, whoever
got you that clip, I'm gonna
give you a clip of the day.
That's a beauty.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you, I got
that myself from TRT.
John C Dvorak: Give yourself a
pat on the back. Well, so
Adam Curry: I've another one.
I've a second but follow up. But
go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Israel's
John C Dvorak: not in A is not
put in. It's not in the spot
that's dividing the Arab
nations. It's in between the
Egyptians and Arabs, there's no
other it's not like in the
middle between Saudi Arabia and
the UAE or anything like that.
That's nonsense. But yeah, I
understand. I remembered some of
this from my days at Cal
Berkeley, these the same thing,
Adam Curry: it's the same thing.
And black Americans from early
on, were infiltrated by Marxist,
the true Marxist came in and
right away when Hey, the Marxist
were in the south in America,
trying to get people to get on
board. And the only people who
showed up were black people.
Like, hey, these guys care about
us. They're listening to us. And
there's long standing friction
between blacks and Jews in
America. So this wedge has been
played for a long time. And it
always comes down to America
Bad, bad, bad colonialism. I'm
not saying that. It's there's
not no colonialism going on
here. But this is not a new
thing. In fact, let's go back a
little less far.
Unknown: Muhammad Ali also
declared his support for the
Palestinian struggle, marching
for Palestinian rights and
visiting a Palestinian refugee
camp in southern Lebanon. In
1979, Reverend Jesse Jackson met
with the PLO and pushed for the
US to deal directly with the
organization in pursuit of a
peace deal
just and lasting peace is
inextricably bound for a state
of the Palestinian people, and
the recognition of the PLO as
the government in exile with
which our nation must negotiate.
This was a significant shift in
support for Palestine moving
from radical groups to more
mainstream figures who were able
to lobby for shifts in US
policy. 10 years later, Jackson
would find himself in an
audience in Harlem as Nelson
Mandela addressed a packed town
home
as far as Yasser Arafat is
concerned. I explained to Mr.
City that we identify with a
piano it causes just like
ourselves. They are fighting for
the right of self determination.
Adam Curry: So Actually IBM now
I think about I want to make
sure there was there might have
been a producer who sent me this
I may be wrong it may or may not
have been my discovery alone. I
don't want to I don't want don't
want to take no Stolen Valor.
Stolen
John C Dvorak: Valor Oh my god.
So I should mention a couple of
things one when I went and
visited Israel some time ago but
before I did I was given a
briefing on some of the stuff
going on and I was told that it
was never going to be any such
two state solution once they're
there they're never going to
schism had to exist because of
basic corruption and he this guy
Israeli course so as the
information could be slanted but
he pointed me to a Time magazine
article that one of them though
he says by this writer who's has
gotten jobs jobs since
discussing the kind of
corruption that goes on in the
in the way it would be, become
Gaza, which would which included
Coca Cola concessions, yeah,
yes, that only went to a certain
group of people that were and it
was all everything was bought
and paid for by bribery. And it
was so much money being made off
of through the via the PLO, and
that's the reason that we always
forget the fact that when after
he died, it was discovered that
Yasser Arafat had billions of
dollars stored away in a in a
Swiss bank, which had you get
built not to a couple of bucks,
but a billions. Yeah. And it was
full
Adam Curry: of crap. Everyone's
full of crap.
John C Dvorak: Everyone's fully
crap. And
Adam Curry: people they don't
care about their people, just
like our so called leaders don't
actually care about us. The
faster people realize that the
better. You know, this, this
just no care in the world and
you don't have to choose a side.
You can be choosing sides all
day long as we keep pointing out
this sides everywhere. How about
looking at your own city or your
own neighborhood? How's it going
there have potholes? I do have
some black lives matter. Trans
Maoist, racist stuff. Two fun
clips.
John C Dvorak: That's always
always fun, always fun.
Adam Curry: And the first one is
James O'Keefe. The man he
doesn't need his donors. He's
doing just fine. He got a zoom
call from the CEO of IBM. Who is
John C Dvorak: he the Indian, I
think is Indian. I thought the
CEO was Gina Rometty.
Adam Curry: This is from 2021.
John C Dvorak: I thought the CEO
then was was her. Ah,
Adam Curry: who was this guy
then CEO, IBM. Let me see.
Ma'am. Now Arvid Krishna.
John C Dvorak: Arvind Krishna.
Yeah. Is he the CEO? Yeah.
Adam Curry: I guess I would
maybe choose chairman and CEO
since April 2020. took on the
role of chairman in 2021.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
behind to what I know. No
kidding. What
Adam Curry: do we know?
John C Dvorak: It was during
COVID. You know, anything that
happened during COVID.
Adam Curry: Also, on this zoom
call, was the CEO of Red Hat,
which has since been acquired,
which was an acquisition by
John C Dvorak: the algo.
Adam Curry: Looks like a white
dude. Then there's this. She
doesn't talk much. There's some
like a PR lady who's just
smiling like a doofus on camera
the whole time. He has a whole
report. I'm gonna play one
minute of it, you'll get the
idea pretty quick.
Unknown: We take
underrepresented and gender you
got to move both forward by a
percentage that leads to a plus
on a bonus. By the way, if you
lose, you lose part of your
bonus. I'm not trying to finesse
this. So for blacks, we should
try to get to a 13 point
something percent on Hispanics.
You gotta get into the mid
teens. Alleppey say, Asians in
the US. I'm not an
underrepresented minority in a
tech company. James
O'Keefe here outside of IBM's
corporate headquarters in
Armonk, New York. And IBM
insider has provided us with an
internal video showing the CEO
of IBM Arban Krishna using
coercion to fire people and take
away their bonuses unless they
discriminate in the hiring
process. Let me go
deeper into Red Hat multiple
leaders over the last year plus
that were held accountable to
the point that they're no longer
here at Red Hat because they
weren't willing to live up to
the standards that we set in
this space. This conversation
takes place every single day.
And a lot of it's behind the
scenes,
the terminated executives that
didn't discriminate yet another
violation of Title Seven, one of
the biggest companies in the
world, one of the most valuable
and recognizable brands on
Earth.
Adam Curry: So they had quotas,
you know, oh, you need to hire
2% more black people. 2% more
trans people that quotas and if
you didn't, if you didn't do it,
then you'd either your bonus
will get docked or you Couldn't
get fired outright. How about
that? Wow. Yeah. Wow was right,
IBM. I mean, I wish I wish there
was a product that could ban but
I don't use any I mean, who uses
IBM products? I'm sure we all
use it indirectly.
John C Dvorak: Because there's,
there's they have things here in
there.
Adam Curry: When's the last time
you bought an IBM PC? ThinkPad?
Do they still exist that did
they are they still they
John C Dvorak: sold the whole
business on Lenovo. Lenovo.
Right, right. So they don't even
make those anymore. And I don't
know what they you know, they
think they still make some sort
of chips.
Adam Curry: But this goes on
everywhere in boardrooms and
executive suites across the
United States. I know candle
have many examples
John C Dvorak: of the
meritocracy that this country
was founded on No
Adam Curry: man, it's about your
gender and your skin color began
and that is a direct result of
Larry Fink's invention, which is
backpedaling on ESG, which are a
big part of your ESG your
environmental social governance
score is your diversity and
equity inside your corporation
along with your green washing.
Oh, it's horrible. And it makes
these companies suck. And there
you go. IBM. I think you suck.
Where's your AI? Where's your
Watson? No. But that's okay.
Because racism is
John C Dvorak: they end up
Adam Curry: failing in the
market. Oh, yeah. Eventually
eventually. Yeah. And okie for
not doing well help them.
John C Dvorak: Right. Keith is
helping them helping them. Yes,
helping them fail,
Adam Curry: but they will fail
in the market because if you
bring in mediocre people
eventually just get mediocre
product and and it's very hard
to swing that boat around once
you've once it's ingrained in
the organization. Boss Boston
though the mayor of Boston oh
man a little email boo boo
Boston Mayor
Unknown: Michelle Wu showing up
to her Beacon Hill holiday party
and all smiles after an email
error sparked controversy
surrounding the festive affair.
It was a one of those emails
that we've all sent at one point
or another no
and it was obtained by a member
of the mayor's staff to the
entire city council Tuesday. I
cordially invite you and a guest
to the electeds of color holiday
party. But 15 minutes later
another email went out
rescinding that invite to the
white councillors clarifying I
did send that to everyone by
accident. I apologize if my
email may have offended mistake
or not. City Councilor Frank
Baker says this is just one
example of the racial divisions
inside City Hall.
Well, yeah, I do find it
divisive but you know what do
you what are you going to do
about it? You don't want me at a
party I'm uncomfortable body. So
you know,
the event has been happening for
years and the mayor is defending
the party. I can
understand someone would be
confused or worried if certain
people weren't being invited. Or
were being left out of any type
of celebration, but they're I
assure you, everyone on the
Boston City Council has gotten
an invitation to multiple types
of events and holiday parties
that the mayor says that there
will be another party at the
same location on another date
where all city officials are
invited to attend
Adam Curry: scandalous there was
a Christmas party the for the
elected people of color which as
mo would say is another way of
saying elected color people so
that's all he can hear such
John C Dvorak: it yeah I'm I'm
so I can be honest about that's
what I always hear to bull
Adam Curry: crap term is racist.
It's just racist.
John C Dvorak: And then they do
a segregated party. Yes. Yes.
Adam Curry: Segregated party. It
is. I mean, why you should go
throw a party at IBM. You fit
right in with their with their
culture. Okay. Now, this is this
has got to be my favorite topic
for for today. You're on a roll.
Yeah, no, there's this. There's
John C Dvorak: a show at the
mall or something.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, Moe and
I are due for a show that we're
due for a show you know,
something really beautiful
happen. So I was listening to my
favorite show the hate listen.
Oh, your pivot? Yes. pivot here
we go with Professor Prof. G and
your protege.
John C Dvorak: Stop and tell you
something. I was reluctant to
tell you but I'm going to tell
you all right. So I'm talking to
Mia Mia. She's doing the good
news stuff. And just like she's
white, she overdoing it issues.
She's
Adam Curry: picking the good
news currently,
John C Dvorak: because she's got
she'd give me 20 of them. And I
thought, Oh my God.
Adam Curry: Maybe it's like good
news.
John C Dvorak: So she says that,
you know, Adam is better on the
show than ever before. He's not
so testy. He's not so uptight
about everything you say. He's
not like Like, he's not like an
old lesbian that's agreeing with
her when she says this, and she
says she says he's funnier. He's
doesn't get offended by
everything like he used to. Wow.
And this she said, It's because
he stopped smoking dope.
Adam Curry: I think that's a
part of it. Possibly. Yeah. was
part of it. I mean,
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, I
mean, I said that until he does
smoke dope or tobacco products
anymore. Changes. A little bit.
My dnn is religious. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a little bit of accepting.
But Jesus,
Adam Curry: I have saved me.
John C Dvorak: She's not a fan
of you being saved. But no, he
says, even I said religion will.
Should if it works, keep him
from going back to smoking pot
all the time. I'm not gonna
smoke anymore. Because you were
and people don't realize this.
You were basically 24/7 on a
heater. You were a 24/7 smoker
waken big baby.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And ever. I never
thought it really affected your
personality, but she says is
noticeable. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, that's not
according to one of our
donations that we'll have later
on.
John C Dvorak: You're a hater.
Adam Curry: I don't know what I
am. Anyway. I'm not a hater. So
now that what's interesting is
this, uh, the Heritage
Foundation came out with a
document. And this is the
genesis of what's going on here.
If this document is called
Project 2025. And, well, maybe
we can talk about that in a
moment. But this is basically
the conservative slash
Republican manual for all the
things they want to do. And it's
very Heritage Foundation. It's,
it's 1000 pages is a big
document. And as you can
imagine, it's you know, stuff
like, hey, racism against white
people is racism. Hey, let's,
let's let's try and reduce this
abortion epidemic. We've got,
you know, it's all the Heritage
Foundation stuff you'd expect.
But this is not the Heritage
Fund. Oh, no, this is Trump.
John C Dvorak: This is all about
Trump. So Trump Yeah. Oh, yeah.
What's up? We'll get to this
came out of the heritage. Yeah,
but Trump is trumping the
heritage or are not even close.
I know I know.
Adam Curry: But, but before we
get to that part, I first want
to go to the hate Listen, which
I adore them. I just want you to
know that if they were value for
value, I'd send them value. I
disagree
John C Dvorak: with this with
what you don't do. You don't
endure them. You don't like I
missed the show door.
Adam Curry: I said a door you
said indoor and outdoor. I said
I adore them. You endure them
now. You heard it wrong. I said
I adore them. I do I adore them.
John C Dvorak: I hold back the
chain.
Adam Curry: I love Kara's paw. I
love it when she's when she goes
on shows as Elon Musk has
dropped the effort. This is a 52
year old man. What
John C Dvorak: did you know she
used to love you pointed this
out. She used to be a big huge
fan of Ilan Yeah, what happened
between those two? Well,
Adam Curry: you know she is a
she's a pushover. She takes
she's accessed journalist.
John C Dvorak: You know if Ilan
said something good about her. I
bet she she turned the corner on
this. Oh, in
Adam Curry: a heartbeat. She was
all Apple the stupid visor. It's
no good. This vision pro what is
like Google Glass. They invite
her for a demo. Wow. This is the
future. Please, please. Now
Elon. Elon shined her on and
said now be whatever, I'm the
meal. And, you know, I gave Elon
all the breaks. I created Elon
Musk. It doesn't matter. They
had they had Dan Pfeiffer on Dan
Pfeiffer where he's from pod
save America. He's from that
whole that whole group. And he's
actually I was in my money. He's
the smartest of the group and he
was an Obama advisor.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these guys
are the pod save America as are
all the oh by the right bottom
left wingers of podcasting. Yes,
it's not Chapo. traphouse. Knows
close.
Adam Curry: Pfeiffer is a smart
guy. And he goes on the end. He
has a podcast, which is kind of
why I was listening because he
has a podcast called the polar
coaster. I know right, get off
the polar coaster because it's
all about polls. Anyway, he goes
on and he gives a
recommendation, what the
Democrats should not do what
they explained what they should
not be doing. With Trump right
now. We have focused
Unknown: and I think rightfully
on Donald Trump's thing on day
one. But what keeps getting left
out is what he said right after
that, which he's going to, he
basically said, I am going to
abuse power to secure the border
and quote drill, drill drill.
Right? So what he is trying to
do is to say, I am going to be
an authoritarian but I'm going
to be authoritarian for you.
Here's all I'm going to help
your wife right. These we know
that these things people care a
lot about cost of energy. And
border is at the top of it's
right below inflation on a lot
of the polls in terms of
concerns for voters. What
Democrats should do is not it we
is we should avoid some traps.
First is we shouldn't run around
talking about how strong Donald
Trump is because strength is
part of his appeal. We have to
talk about his knee the fact
that he is weak, right that he
that Donald Trump has ever stood
up to anyone in his life. He
bails on the CEOs he bows down
to dictators. He's running for
president not to help you but
because afraid to face the
consequences for his actions in
office last time and make it
about his weakness, right,
Donald Trump what that is a trap
to make us talk about how strong
and fearful he is. Next, and
this is really important as we
have to talk about how what
Donald Trump would do how him
being a dictator or seizing
power abusing her would affect
you. Right, I think one great
way to do this talk about
abortion. Right, the Heritage
Foundation and others have
talked about how even if Donald
Trump is unable to pass a
federal abortion ban, they can
weaponize the federal government
to put in fact a de facto
federal abortion ban.
Adam Curry: So he's read the
Heritage Foundation document and
he makes a really smart point
here. He says, Don't be talking
about him being the dictator.
Don't do that, because that only
solidifies He's a powerful,
powerful man. He specifically
and I think smartly says no, we
should not be doing this. Super
cut time.
Unknown: What would a second
Donald Trump term look like?
Well, he cannot be the next
president. It because if he is
you can't imagine the things
that he's going to do. Mexico,
Canada, we can go to Canada
because eventually Canada will
become an ex to America and
shoot visitors to the White
House. That means he can shut
the First Lady.
We're gonna see violence, the
likes of which we didn't even
see on January 6.
Make it illegal to run against
him to throw his opponents in
jail to shut down the media, he
will make
himself into the furor. And he
will make everybody raise their
hand
and salute him using martial law
against American germinate
the Constitution, we write the
constitution. Camps throw
everyone into Gitmo might be
sent to jail
or their rights might be
suppressed. Especially minority
groups in society
you might have any number of
things happen to you and your
family, every one of
us our freedom or liberty. None
of us is safe. It's going to
have people around him executing
against an enemies list,
assassinate
generals ordering troops
to attack American citizens,
very well
armed extremist base, we will
try to kill people
John C Dvorak: when he's going
to basically burn the house
Unknown: down, he will unravel
the institutions of our
democracy, draw similarities
between Mussolini and Hitler,
Hitler and Benito Mussolini,
Donald Trump even more dangerous
wants
to take away your vote Senate in
the house are immediately going
to be paralyzed. People will
begin in their minds to censor
themselves. They might say,
well, maybe I shouldn't say this
is the end of democracy.
I think that could be the end of
our democracy. But democracy is
dead if Trump is reelected.
Democracy will be at risk. The
absolute destruction of the
Justice Department as
we know it, the Justice
Department could be entirely
transformed.
I really concerned about that
person who was associated with
the attempted coup elevated in
the
administration. he's reelected
he will curb transgender rights
and the rule of law, arrest
political opponents to
persecute, not prosecute or
persecute his enemies
take a wrecking ball to the rule
of law, he's
going to make the law everyone
else will have to follow the
vote for Donald Trump may mean
the last election that you ever
get to vote in
go after the independent and
free parts of American civic
life
with tear down our institutions.
Birds, the government of
employees department by
department effort to weaponize
the powers of the government to
use the military to quash
protests, reading the government
of all democratic safeguards,
junking American democracy, as
we have always known it, that he
would try to stay in office
beyond a second term. He would
never leave office, there's no
question Trump is reelected. He
won't leave. Trump will never
leave office voluntarily. And
what that means
is that everybody who wants us
to remain a republic
has to put every other thing
aside and work together urgently
right now to stop that from
happening. So
Adam Curry: props to gray Bian
for putting that together. So do
they heed any advice? No. Well,
John C Dvorak: the Republicans
are the same way. I was
listening to of all people I
don't like him, which is Sean
Hannity. And he's giving advice
to the party about you know, how
to ride this abortion thing
correctly. And of course, no
one's gonna pay any attention to
him they're gonna lose a lot of
votes because they're gonna get
whiplash rip whip. whipsaw
whipsawed by the Democrats on
abortion issues if
Adam Curry: if the Democrats can
drag themselves away from the
Hitler, Mussolini dictator
thing, which I think is exactly
why Trump did that. Well,
John C Dvorak: not as you
mentioned that I because I think
that analysis by your podcasting
friend was right on the money. I
think so too. And we've noticed
this on this show. He doesn't
know how to pick people for his
cabinet. He just basically Are
you a backstabber You're hired.
brings in people like the
walrus,
Adam Curry: Bolton, Bolton,
John C Dvorak: what would you
hire that guy?
Adam Curry: He's a fart sniffer.
John C Dvorak: We never got a
whole slew of Council on Foreign
Relations, people that are set
up to go against him and the
drop of a hat. Yeah. And it's
just, you know, but on the other
hand, you got Biden.
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to
hear it? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I agree with
everything that you played
there.
Adam Curry: So here's a video
from this other project. 2025
project 2020 five.org. I mean,
this is a video from it, just to
give you an idea of
Unknown: conservatives exist, to
conserve the ideals of the
American founding, these ideas
are actually the
Adam Curry: source of our
recovery. Notice the difference
in in music ta January
Unknown: 20. When the President
puts his hand on the Bible,
everything changes.
Our goal is to ensure that the
conservative administration that
takes office in January 25 is
ready on day one, the next
conservative president will only
be able to do so with your help.
And the President of the
conservative partnership
Institute, Vice President of
Hillsdale College, the head of
the Office of Justice Programs,
Assistant Secretary
for Public Affairs, senior
adviser to the president,
Assistant press secretary.
You're here to cut government
and you're here to do something
that's not in
their interest. The deep state
is real. You want to be someone
who knows answers. As
a public servant, you're working
on behalf of the American
people, the greatest country on
the planet.
Adam Curry: Johnson sure that
that power is executed
responsibly. So they have a
whole training project. You
know, they've got materials,
they've got their whole policy
directive. I mean, it's not a
Trump thing. They have the
mandate for leadership. You
know, our goal is to assemble an
army of aligned, vetted, trained
and prepared conservatives to go
to work on day one, to
deconstruct the administrative
state. I don't think there's
American that doesn't agree with
that. That there's an
administrative state has gone
too far. So fine, you know, but
it's not a Trump thing. It's
just not I don't think Trump is
all that tight with the Heritage
Foundation
John C Dvorak: of these that
tight with conservatives in
general. Yeah. Well, so
Adam Curry: you can stop this
next one, whenever you want
this, this was a Tiktok. guy.
And he read the document, which
was dug a big document Project
2025, which in his mind is
Trump. This is not the Heritage
Foundation. In his mind. This is
the Trump document. And you can
deconstruct just by listening to
what he's saying, but how He's
twisting the words of what's
actually in there, I think
you'll like it. You haven't
heard her
Unknown: project 2025 Stop what
you're doing. And watch this
project. 2025 is a plan for
Trump's second term that would
transform America into a far
right Christian nationalist
militarized state. You can read
the nearly 1000 Page plan for
yourself at Project
2020 five.org. So you can know I
am not exaggerating three key
facts. Number one, a mass firing
purge that Trump authorized
before the 2020 election but
never got the act on is at the
center of Project 2025. Now,
more than 2 million Americans
across the country are part of
the Federal civilian workforce
scientists and scientific
agencies, doctors at the FDA
accountants at the IRS, we want
experts doing jobs that require
expertise. So
Adam Curry: the document says,
Hey, we gotta get we got to pair
these agencies down there.
They're badgering the American
public that turns into, we want
our doctors we want our tax
experts, but more
Unknown: than 50,000 of them
would be fired under this plan
and replaced with mega
loyalists. Oh, will you lose the
power of these agencies to
fundamentally change the nature
of America? Yes out needing to
involve Congress without
Congress to Project 2025 is a
far right Christian nationalist
agenda. Oh, there must be Nazis
like page five they're already
proclaiming pornography should
be outlawed, but people who not
Adam Curry: okay, so I know a
lot of people are what hold on a
second man Don't touch my porn.
But that's not what they're
talking about this this is a
great twist of, of what's
actually in there because of
course it talking about the
material that is in books in
schools in grade schools to
John C Dvorak: grade schools
with all the basically
pornography that has been kind
of slipped into the grade
schools made in California, they
made it illegal to take those
books out of the schools because
Adam Curry: because porn is
great and push that
John C Dvorak: through, but he
doesn't really know what he's
doing.
Adam Curry: But But it's
interesting that he phrases this
as they're going to outlaw
pornography. I mean, everyone's
like, what, what?
John C Dvorak: What are you
gonna do? interesting twist.
Adam Curry: Listen to the whole
thing. 25
Unknown: is a far right
Christian nationalist agenda. By
page five, they're already
proclaiming pornography should
be outlawed. But people who
produce and distribute it should
be imprisoned educators and
public librarians who purvey it
should be classed as registered
sex offenders. This would be
alarming enough if they were
talking about actual
pornography, but their
definition spans anything that
acknowledges the existence of
LGBTQ people claim on page 451
that families comprised of a
married mother, father and their
children are the foundation of a
well ordered nation and healthy
society, thereby designating
queer people, single parents,
unmarried co parents, and people
who get abortions as inherently
inferior and a threat to the
states. Notice the people who
get abortions on page 584, they
call for the Department of Labor
to explicitly give companies
permission to discriminate
against LGBTQ Americans on page
four,
Adam Curry: this is your thing.
This is your thing. You know,
you always say you don't want
people with with the tattoos and
the piercings and the hair. You
don't want them in your company.
That is your horrible LGBTQ plus
hater.
John C Dvorak: I'm not an LGBTQ
hater. My take is, and I don't
think it's got anything to do
with any of these issues. Or you
don't want certain kinds of
mentalities in your company that
will just bring in others of the
same ilk. And then they'll turn
on you. Yes, Your company has to
be configured has to have one
corporate culture of people that
are all in agreement lockstep so
the company can survive can
survive and do well. So I say
make sure to do testing to make
sure that the woke aren't hired.
Adam Curry: So you don't need to
hear more of this. Do you have
this particular one? I think
you've heard enough. Are you are
you pining for more? Do you want
more? I can play a little
John C Dvorak: you know, you can
stop because I think you're
probably Yeah, I but yeah, yeah,
this is what you do. So you just
read interpret, you can do that
with anything. And you just did
it by turning on me.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right.
I turned on. Yeah. Because, you
know, no longer smoking dope
turned on you. That's
John C Dvorak: exactly the
reason. If you were smoking
dope, or whatever.
Adam Curry: Cool, man. So now,
the veck Vivec. All of a sudden,
it dawned on me. He's working
for Trump. His job is the same
job. No, but I mean, I hadn't
dawned on me until I saw parts
of his of his town hall, which
was quite funny. A couple of,
John C Dvorak: he's hilarious.
In fact, he's, he's, he's
outdoing Trump in a lot of ways.
No, I
Adam Curry: think his whole
that's the whole Trump was like,
here's what you do. And he's may
even be writing some stick for
him. Stick a stick because Vivec
is doing stick and he's he's in
his good, and he's snappy. And
he is he is, I mean, he
obviously has fu money so he
doesn't care.
John C Dvorak: And I think you
know, he couldn't have a
comedian coach. It feels
Adam Curry: like it. He's he
even his hair. His hair wasn't
all crazy up in the air like
that all like Bozo before. I
mean, he's Have you noticed
this? I'm a hair guy. Yeah. His
hairs kind of his hairs a little
wacky,
John C Dvorak: little more
manic.
Adam Curry: A little more manic.
Exactly. And just as Chris
Christie's entire raison d'etre,
which is friends for reason for
being is to protect Nimrod.
John C Dvorak: What's your name?
Nimrod,
Adam Curry: Nimrod, Haley,
Nikki,
John C Dvorak: Nikki, Haley,
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick,
Nikki.
Adam Curry: The his whole job is
to protect her is to encircle
her. And to you know, to the
ward I'm the beside during That
debate for what we could watch
of it. So Overbeck is of avec is
doing the same thing for Trump,
but he's go, he's going out
there, and he's delivering the
Trump message. If you had
Unknown: told me it's close to
three years ago that January
6 2021 happened if you'd told me
three years ago, back when I was
a biotech CEO, not steeped in
this world. I was just consuming
passive media, but was focused
on my world of developing
medicines. If you had told me
that January 6 was in any way an
inside job the subject of
government entrapment. I would
have told you that was crazy
talk. Fringe, this is
Adam Curry: good. By the way,
this this is a good way to put
it. Hey, you know, I mean, I was
making medicines that my mom
somehow was involved with, okay,
it doesn't matter. I was making
medicines. I was. I was a
biotech guy.
John C Dvorak: I have a red book
prediction. Go because if this
guy is, is doing a cover for
Trump, what is he going to end
up as he's gonna get a
government job? Yes.
Adam Curry: He's getting a gig.
Sure. I
John C Dvorak: have had the
prediction, okay. ambassadorship
good. What his own choosing?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: but what would he
choose? Well, he
John C Dvorak: could choose
India. He could really have fun
down there. No, he
Adam Curry: bought the ones you
want. You want London you want
Paris? Paris? Yeah. You
John C Dvorak: don't want India
John Doerr over here at Kleiner
Perkins was always supportive.
He wanted London he always
various that he went to Paris.
Oh, either way. And he couldn't
get on the wrong horse. It was
too funny. Yeah. Did
Adam Curry: you? Did you grow?
You're right. His he's like has
Kramer from Seinfeld hair.
That's what he's got. It's
Kramer hair. There's something
about it. It's anyway. So he's
styled. He's doing as I was
reading People magazine, I will.
I'm reading USA Today. I watch
Entertainment Tonight. I thought
this would have been crazy. But
no, I would
Unknown: have told you that was
crazy talk. Fringe conspiracy
theory nonsense. I can tell you
now having gone somewhat deep in
this. It's not. I mean, the
reality is this.
Adam Curry: Now, listen to the
back and forth with him. The
news model from CNN, we
Unknown: do have a government.
First of all, we have to
acknowledge that has lied to us
systematically over the last
several years about the origin
of COVID-19. About the Hunter
Biden laptop that we were told
was false. Yes, my 51 CIA
experts and otherwise, before we
now know that it was true, you
could go straight down the list
of Trump Russia, disinformation,
collusion, hoax, all of it. Now
we've come to January 6. The
reality is we know that there
were federal law enforcement
agents in that field. We don't
know how many. I think it's
shameful. Let me finish this
answer. But
let me just I'm gonna go ahead
and interrupt you here. Because
Because that the stablishment
has improved.
Adam Curry: Federal Did you
catch when he says, I know I
missed it. He says, Yeah, I
understand. You have to
interrupt me because the
establishment does not approve
this message. I get he's, he's,
he's doing stick.
Unknown: I'm gonna go ahead and
interrupt you here. Because
Because that establishment has
approved this message. I know
there were federal you're saying
that there were a federal
system. This is important.
Adam Curry: I think they're
clapping for him and not for her
probably.
Unknown: On January. There is no
evidence that there were federal
agents in the crowd on January.
So
why before Congress when pressed
on what the number was they
didn't say they were not they
just couldn't
see them. You're saying that
there's no that you have not
seen any evidence? We've seen
more and so you've
seen multiple informants
suggesting that there were we
know people we know people were
FBI informants. So we're asking
is there any major
comeback question but let me
clarify it was very
uncomfortable for I
Adam Curry: know it's
uncomfortable for you. He's like
I feel bad for you. I know I
understand. You have to do this.
I know the control rooms yelling
in you. I'm so sorry
Unknown: to give you hard facts.
And if I may I be I know this
can be a little uncomfortable.
We're gonna we're gonna go just
so you can you can even put
Adam Curry: I'm waiting for the
evidence. She was like, This is
gonna be great. This is my
launch into a primetime show on
CNN where girl What is this guy
doing uncomfortable,
Unknown: but we're gonna we're
gonna go through it and you can
you can, you can push the
evidence and you can push back
on that and let's do this
fairly. Why did they suppress
footage of now what's been
released 200 hours of footage of
shooting rubber bullets into
that crowd shooting tear gas
into that crowd. You didn't see
that before you saw what the
response was to that. Now you'll
see footage coming out of
actually rolling out the red
carpet for Capitol Police
allowing
Ramaswamy in again right through
the front back to maturity that
Adam Curry: she's trying to live
No, no that the vast majority of
that footage. Or at
Unknown: least the footage shows
my DPS officers being over
talking about one more really
important writers that I'm going
to write
very, I'm not sure if I can
finish it. I'm not sure if
the samples to the country to
the country sample
John C Dvorak: and stop it. So
what you've got here Er, which
is the interesting part. This is
supposed to be a debate between
the candidates.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is
not a debate. This is the town
hall.
John C Dvorak: This is the town
hall.
Adam Curry: Poor lady Abby.
John C Dvorak: She's is she
supposed to be arguing with the
guy?
Adam Curry: Yes. Because cherry
pick and tell them the vast
majority. Tell them tell them
tell them you tell them. That's
what's going on. That's
John C Dvorak: what they all
want. But that's what's going
on. But it's that's the format?
No, of
Adam Curry: course not. He's
supposed to ask a question with
the guy answer. But the job now
of the interviewer is to fact
check in real time. I know this
because that's what Prof. G and
Kara are always talking about.
They want fact checking in real
time. But her facts don't add
up.
Unknown: What here's what? I'm
not cherry picking. I finish it.
I'm not sure if the samples
to the country to the contract.
For example. Government is what
government
was afforded. When there was 200
hours of cherry picking was the
government not made
Adam Curry: good. That's it.
That's that's someone who knows
what he's doing. He's been
trained. He
John C Dvorak: is quick on the
draw. There's no doubt about it.
We've noticed that from the get
go. Yeah. So he's fast on his
feet. Yeah. He's also been
coached, obviously. I think
obviously. And he's been and his
timing is good. Yes.
Adam Curry: And he's just any
any, like a board physical with
a big plate and you know, big
plank in front of his head is
like, just ran right through
just talking right over her.
This.
John C Dvorak: This explains
from the beginning when we both
were suspicious of the guy. Why
is he here? Yeah. What is he
doing it? And you had heard the
talk, right wing talk show guy
say the same thing. What is this
guy? Does he thinks he's good.
They all say the same thing.
He's really good. But why is he
does he expect to win anything?
What's going on? I think you
nailed it. Ambassador guy is
there as a foil. And he's great.
And he is really good.
Adam Curry: And he and he sticks
it all the way in and rotates,
and right up through the throat
with this one.
Unknown: And let me let me just
finish one thing, because this
is super important as well. When
you think there's a civil
libertarian issue of our time
when Richard was kidnapping. I
want to keep it going to be
really clear on this because
it's the same issue the same FBI
same even part of the FBI. Three
people who are an alleged plot
to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, were
acquitted at the end of trial,
because it was entrapment. That
is government agents put them up
to do something they otherwise
wouldn't have done. They given
credit cards with spending
limits of up to $5,000 Encourage
them to buy munitions. Notice
Adam Curry: the control room
hasn't. They're like they're
like, look this up, look this
up. We got it. What is he doing?
It's a curveball. You're not
talking about Trump and looking
at that we need something quick
Unknown: plan something they
weren't otherwise willing to
plan. So much. So and I want
people at home to know this,
especially CNN viewers to know
this is that one of the jurors
went to those defendants and
apologized afterwards, gave him
a hug. Apologize, seeing what
the government had put a poor
guy up to who had to go to some
Mexican restaurant across the
street to get hot water. These
people were exploited with
credit cards up to $5,000 FBI
agents, putting them up to a
kidnapping plot that we were
told was true but wasn't
traveling for dancing with the
Capitol police people letting
Ramaswamy many of those people
look at government put you I did
something and then charge
Ramaswamy
Adam Curry: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to spank you.
Unknown: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to interrupt
you. I really don't. But I don't
want you to mislead the audience
here.
They've been misled by
mainstream media.
Guys good. Guys. Good.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, we do
we start to watch him with this
in mind. I think we'll
appreciate him more. Yeah.
Adam Curry: i And it dawned on
me too. I'm like, Oh, okay. That
makes that makes sense. That's
what he's there for. Totally.
John C Dvorak: Totally. And
that's why Trump doesn't go to
the database. Why? What's the
point? What's the point?
Adam Curry: And it's, but it's,
it's so interesting. From a
media perspective, which is what
we do here we deconstruct media,
how the media is, I mean, he
doesn't even have Twitter.
Before he would do it on
Twitter. And then oh, Trump
tweeted somebody and they talk
about him incessantly all day
long and then not and he does
want the on Hannity on his home
turf network. They can't ah, and
the ol boy is going to be a
dictator over starting on day
one they're gonna do like genius
genius move and then he I don't
think anybody watches much of
the the evening talk shows. I
mean, we know the only talk show
that people watch these days is
the one I don't like you like
it, which is God felt.
John C Dvorak: I just, I just
don't like me a long time.
Adam Curry: I don't like I don't
like Tim. I don't like Brutus.
John C Dvorak: Whatever lame. A
big rush. I
Adam Curry: don't know. I don't
like it. It's just it watching
John C Dvorak: just for the
occasional appearance of Emily
compagno.
Adam Curry: Yes, she's good.
They write for her. Yes, we
discussed this. So here's Jimmy
Kimmel Live, giving a full
minute and a half to Trump. I
mean, how dumb if they're if
they really are operatives,
they're doing a bad job. And if
John C Dvorak: I think your
podcasting buddy nailed it, yes.
Adam Curry: But this is, I mean,
this Trump's writing material
for them, and they like, Oh,
this is funny. Let's use this
material. I mean, how can you do
you really hate Trump Kimmel?
Seems like you want him to win
while Biden
Unknown: and Zelinsky were busy
trying to sell Congress on
funding for Ukraine. Our foreign
president is looking for some
funding to
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that keeps the mug shot edition.
Brilliant.
Adam Curry: Come on. This is
brilliant. He had the stupid
playing cards. Now he's got the
mug shot edition. But wait,
there's more
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and we'll mail you a beautiful
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And it was a great suit, believe
me a really good suit.
Adam Curry: This is genius. They
cut up the suit. And he's giving
people pieces of the suit when
they buy all 47 I mean, this is
classic direct marketing,
classic comedy. And these idiots
are just Paul, let's play this.
Let's make fun of him. This is
beautiful. It's all cut out.
Unknown: You're gonna get a
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Deal. Wow, that's these cards.
So the cards cost $99 each. If
you buy them all 47 of them for
the low low price of $4,653 plus
tax you will get a postage stamp
sized piece of the suit he wore
on the day he was arrested for
the fourth time. And he's
calling it the most historically
significant artifact in United
States is today's isn't that
said that. There are only 13
original copies of the
Constitution. And only who knows
how many fabric swatches from a
triple XL fat guy suit.
These cards pop art or modern
art. I wish I looked as good as
I do on those cards and I can
tell you they give me muscles
where? Believe me I don't have
them.
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on? I mean our former presidents
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Adam Curry: I missed him in that
regard. I really missed it. Oh
man, that's genius. Stupid
morons.
John C Dvorak: It's too crazy to
be AI.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, it's not
it's it's not AI. It's the real
deal. That's him. That is him.
It's so good. Ah, makes
John C Dvorak: view seeing the
changes changing the topic. Have
you seen the channel one AI?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I saw like
horrible.
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it
was horrible at all. I have the
first minute of it. Click here
just to play. What's
Adam Curry: it what's an under
our channel one? Well, it
doesn't really work. Just audio
you have to see the wooden
movements of the news models.
Hello.
Unknown: Welcome to channel one.
Oh, a new way of consuming
reporting and thinking about the
news powered by artificial
intelligence. Today you'll
witness AI generated stories and
headlines, captivating visuals
and data driven insights. From
global news to finance to
entertainment. We'll show you
how technology enables us to
bring you a global perspective.
24/7 right from the heart of our
AI native newsroom, all
presented by our team of AI
generated reporters.
Maybe you hear the words
artificial intelligence, and
you're immediately skeptical or
concerned about technology gone
crazy. But everything you'll see
on Channel One relies on trust.
John C Dvorak: Back it up a
little bit and now answer me
this. Why are their phones
ringing in the background?
Adam Curry: Well, because AI
determined that's what you need
to make it sound authentic. I'm
missing that. I'm missing the
teletype
John C Dvorak: yeah teletype
would probably be better you
know.
Adam Curry: Hello, welcome to AI
news brought to you by no agenda
show this is great boy look at
my arms. No not robotic at all.
John C Dvorak: You can you can
mark this like that. But in fact
is, is its people should go I
just tell it, you can listen to
Adam or you can listen to me.
Channel one.ai is the website
and watch this. I don't think
it's half bad. I think it's as
good as the actual network news.
Then they actually have a sample
news show and in fact on that
show, which they has real news
on it even though some of its
dated, there's a dated piece of
news which I was even unaware of
that you know, when they went to
the asteroid and grabbed some
asteroid rocks with that 10 year
mission or however long it took
to get there that the thing
never closed the grabber never
closed completely and it rocks
are being left all over the
space on the way back.
Adam Curry: I am very happy this
exists because when you get
tired of me I can continue the
show with my AI Dvorak. You
probably could no one will know
the difference
John C Dvorak: MQL they'll know
the difference because there's
no way that it can be funny. I
was just
Adam Curry: you can sit at home
and collect checks. What are you
waiting for? Seriously? Comic
Strip blogger Can you please
create a JCB AI you know what,
let's just start with one show a
week evening and do a whole show
you take one show a week off and
then it'd be fine it's gonna be
so good because AI is obviously
it's not that
John C Dvorak: bad I'm telling
you this Do people don't listen
to him listen to go to channel A
or channel one.ai which is the
website and I'm telling you this
is as good as CBS or any of
these local news is still got
charm noses in sloppier
Adam Curry: no no naked news
that still has chocolate
John C Dvorak: you know naked
news is probably still is the
best.
Adam Curry: This is pay well
cares this worth it. That fine.
Everybody can go listen to me by
John C Dvorak: the way. Channel
one could be channel one naked
they could do a naked news with
it because they can't seem to
fight they can't do people that
don't have a huge kids. So they
DO NAKED news but it'd be giant
breasts version. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'd watch that.
Sure. Sure.
John C Dvorak: So I'm talking to
JC who's in involved in AI. He
says that. I don't know if I
mentioned this on the show
before but because there's so
many large breasted women in the
porn field where they're getting
a lot of their samples from the
AI guys can't really make women
with normal sized breasts. Yet,
Adam Curry: this whole I mean,
this is this is the business
model of AI. This is it.
Congratulations. We've got big
boobs, newsreaders, Herky jerky,
non throwing, not funny.
John C Dvorak: It's not Herky
jerky. I think you're wrong.
Adam Curry: I just watched it. I
watched the whole like, was it
11 minutes is boring, is boring.
The guy who comes in second is
he keeps doing the same hand
gestures, or
John C Dvorak: the hand
gestures. I'm not gonna argue
the hand gestures. It's bad,
because the guy's doing
meaningless hand gestures that
don't make any sense at all. But
this is just the beginning. It's
fine tuning this thing will
result in people that are
terrific looking and better than
the real deal. Hey, I agree AI
is great. It's good to rock
everybody.
Adam Curry: I need to mocking
mocking it. I'm mocking it. I am
mocking it. Because you're
because there will be a a
section of the public. That is
all in on this. And it won't be
any cheaper. It won't be any
cheaper for news organizations
to they've already.
John C Dvorak: Norris 12 to $14
million a year. Then
Adam Curry: I will start my own
news channel and I'll hire Nora,
then it'll be better people want
human beings. That's just the
fact except for the NPCs I mean,
there's a sec but those people
are not worth anything. The
people who are enamored by this
type of entertainment are not
worth anything to advertisers.
They're just worthless people.
John C Dvorak: You're harsh I'm
because you you I earlier in the
show. I said you were a hater.
Adam Curry: I'm an AI hater.
Yes, because I think this is
bullcrap. I think it's there's
no business model. There. This
is little sparkly bits that
dangling in front of us. Where's
the channel? All right. Where's
the channel? There's no actual
channel one that is going to do
this. Where is it that where is
it going? Okay, it's not
admitted.
John C Dvorak: Now already have
the cast and crew
Adam Curry: VEC will be in
London or Paris before we before
we have a full new channel of AI
news models that people actually
what they can eat
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying
that's not a pod that's only six
months or a year away. God it
may take a couple of years Oh
God, people just go you go
yourself and make your own
determination channel one.ai and
check it out all right,
Adam Curry: well the minute that
launches on AI in you and then
that's it and then you can take
off I doubt that won't be
working with you will be working
with your AI agent. Okay.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna make
sure that I don't make you have
to be nice. I'll
Adam Curry: send you checks. No
problem. No. Going like, Man,
I'd be funnier than that stupid
computer. Man, he missed a great
opportunity.
John C Dvorak: Just soft
balling, just willing to miss
that. Speaking
Unknown: of AI, the European
Union passed the most
comprehensive and they listen
Adam Curry: to this guy. No, no
programmer would ever make this
guy in AI because they make him
to professional. I want to hear
like a wispy, lispy quasi gay
guy from time to time, because
it makes me happy to listen to a
human who is different.
Unknown: The European Union
passed the most comprehensive
and ambitious regulations on
artificial intelligence. They
are the first major government
to ever pass set legislations
and the different ways they're
looking at how to monitor
artificial intelligence all the
way from hiring practices, from
the court system to self driving
autonomous cars. There's so much
things that comprehensive and
what's interesting about that is
that they're so far ahead of the
United States government.
Adam Curry: This is by the way
is Good Morning America.
Unknown: You think about the
dangers but let's talk about the
good things when it comes to AI.
Yeah, people look at AI for so
many different reasons. Either
glass is half full, the glass is
half empty. There's no glass,
the glass is half full. I don't
even we love football as well to
as DeMarco but even look at this
weekend's of our football and
weigh the article intelligence
being used is called NFL next
gen stats and it's powered by
neither of us was the Amazon
Web. Pressure probability, what
does that even mean? That
basically means now coaches and
general managers, they can
assess how quickly a quarterback
may be sacked based upon the
data on the defensive lineman,
but they can also to assess
based on the offensive lineman,
how well do they do in
protecting the quarterback over
historical period of data that
is presented. So even the things
that we love Eva and DeMarco,
when it comes to football,
artists intelligence is helping
us call the game play by play is
make it more interactive, but
also to even has to be critiqued
right, and we have to make sure
guardrails are in place. But we
have the power as Americans get
into the driver's seat God
challenging our elected
officials to look at the
holistic point of view,
artificial intelligence. And I
think that is
one thing that's good. And
Adam Curry: my, you know, my
algorithms could replace this
guy's intelligence, but yeah,
perfect. So okay, that's
algorithm. Everything is AI
these days, everything we got an
email from, I'm not going to
read it. But we got an email
from a guy who works at a big
trading firm. He says, Hey, man,
you said there's no business
model. We got a business model
and we have a hub pay $150,000 a
year for AI in our company. I'm
like, Oh, this is interesting.
So are you making $150 billion a
year with your AI trading? Well,
no, we have an HR database.
Because you can look up HR stuff
we filled it all up and we can
query the database so the AI
give those answers where the
chat bot Polly's AI winter
coming, AI winter coming. Peak
AI now AI peak AI to AI winter
that you know what it's going to
be? They're going to pivot to
coin a phrase they're going to
pivot to quantum computing. No,
they're not Yeah, they are they
new work. They need a new thing
that sucks up cycles, so Nvidia
can be even more powerful. This
the only thing that's changed
from the from the late 80s is
more faster computers. It's the
same dumb stuff. Symbols tokens.
It's all the same stuff as lisp.
I'd really like
John C Dvorak: to get dead gag
in there. Nobody gets it. By the
way. A
Adam Curry: lot of Emacs guys
are going Yeah. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Both of them that
listen to the show. Yeah,
Adam Curry: man. Yeah, Emacs,
Emacs. Man. Screw VI. Emacs, you
can do Lisp programming.
Alright, let's switch to some
more mainstream nonsense. We are
desperately trying. We are using
everything we can. We're using
every single advertising and
native ad dollar we have. We
need to make sure that we get
GLP one drugs into Medicare. I
don't care how we do it. We've
got to get added in there, Oprah
came out. And you know, Oprah is
co owner now of WW, which is the
new name for Weight Watchers.
And we had the CEO of
weightwatchers. On the last show
of the show before that, saying,
We're sorry, we were wrong. Oh,
no, it's not about food is not
about portion control. You have
a disease. You have a sickness,
how now but you still need to
use us because we bought a
company that will telemedicine
subscribe you all of these
wonderful drugs, and we'll help
you manage it. We'll help you
manage it. So the end of them so
Oprah did a big a big article,
big interview exclusive.
John C Dvorak: Have you seen a
lie? Have you she needs more
money?
Adam Curry: Have you seen her? I
mean, she looks phenomenal.
Oprah defends her use of weight
loss medication. Obesity is a
disease because she's a doctor.
And this all the doctors are in
on this. I don't really know one
that has said it outright like
that. But they're a little too.
Chicken, I think to say it. But
Oprah says Obesity is a disease.
It's not about willpower. It's
about the brain. Yes, yes. And
now we've got to get it into
kids. And we need it on
Medicare. Let's go to America's
most trusted doctor.
Unknown: That was America's
favorite doctor. And there's a
new study out here that
suggested popular weight loss
drugs may be safe during
pregnancy. But for now, a
warning labels caution against
the use during pregnancy and
consumption. So what so Another
week, another day another
headline with these GLP one
agonists like we go V ozempic
Manjaro. This latest study
published in JAMA Internal
Medicine, really looking
retrospectively at pregnant
women who were on diabetes
medication and how their
pregnancies when whether there
were any risks to the fetus and
the offspring. We're still in
the infancy pardon the pun in
terms of this, because right
now, these drugs like ozempic
are not recommended for women to
take during pregnancy. But we
always have to err on the side
of caution when you're talking
about what can and can not be
taken during pregnancy. But big
picture here, we know that
hyperglycemia, which is elevated
blood glucose levels during
pregnancy, really not good for
the fetus. In addition to the
pregnant woman, we know that
certain medications given to
people with
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Dr. Jen
is pregnant people eat us,
Unknown: in addition to the
pregnant woman, we know that
certain medications given to
people with diabetes are okay
during pregnancy, insulin, the
sulfonylureas. We have good data
and track record on that. But
again, when you talk about risk
benefit, which you guys have
heard, many, many times, we know
that there are real risks to a
woman who's overweight or obese,
diabetic during pregnancy, to
her risk to the fetus. So I
think we're gonna see a lot more
research with this class of
medication that's just
stimulated and triggered by the
popularity and use of them. So
this data that you're looking at
now, this is just because people
were taking it and then they
discovered the good side. I'm
just so fascinated by it. People
are using it. That's actually
how we back into a lot of data
when people are on the
medication. And then you know,
we follow them for another
reason. Really interesting. Very
Adam Curry: interesting. Okay.
But you know, we really need to
get it into the children. I
mean, we're trying to get into
the fetus. It was so successful
with COVID. The COVID vaccines
were great for feet. Hi, let's
go to Dr. Celine
Unknown: doctors and parents to
in the US are now being urged to
take an aggressive new approach
against childhood obesity. It's
a problem that affects nearly
one in five children and teens
in this country. And the US
Preventive Task Force clash is
now saying that doctors need to
intervene, starting with kids as
young as the age of six. Dr.
Celine gounder, is here to tell
us what parents need to know.
Dr. gounder. Thank you very much
for being here. I understand
intensive counseling is the idea
here. What is it? How soon
should it start?
Adam Curry: Now this is weird,
because they start with this
whole counseling counts. I was
trying to figure this out. But
what are you talking about? It's
a disease. Oprah said so what
know what, what is this
counseling bit about?
Unknown: So we're talking about
a minimum of 26 hours per year.
So if you break that down, that
comes down to say half an hour
per week or an hour per week of
meeting with specialists on a
consistent basis. So that could
be everyone from a dietician to
a physical therapist or trainer
to a mental health specialists
to really address what are the
issues that are driving the
obesity?
Adam Curry: Wait a minute,
obesity is an illness I do not
understand. And it started to
dawn as this went a little
further as they brought out the
racial profiling.
Unknown: I don't want to be
negative. I'm sure any number of
hours would help. But if you're
living all of your hours in a
world where you became obese,
what are 26 hours going to do to
change the equation?
Well, this is a really important
point because a lot of what is
driving this is one the culture
of the community, the culture of
the family, how they Eat. So
it's not just about addressing
Adam Curry: when they say
culture, that's code for black
the child,
Unknown: you also need to have
an environment where you have
access to healthy food and many
communities that might come to
the store where they have to
shop, particularly in parts of
the South. And then are there
safe places where kids can
actually play an exercise in
many communities that may not be
the case, communities
Adam Curry: culture, they're
going after poor people, and
particularly poor black people,
because they want it on Medicare
Unknown: together. The American
Academy of Pediatrics also
released guidelines saying that
12 years old or older as a
suggested age, for weight loss,
drugs and even surgery. I mean,
on the surface, that sounds kind
of shocking, but But what is the
rationale is it because of the
long term health effects that,
you know, curbing obesity could
create? Well, this is an
important
important point, the US
Preventive Services Task Force,
they are not recommending
surgery and weight loss
medications, they're just
recommended that recommending
the behavioral interventions.
And I think the discrepancy in
some of the debate in the
medical community is that we are
seeing people getting more and
more obese adults and children,
we're seeing obesity start at a
younger and younger age, and
there's this desperation to do
something. Now whether it can
help and giving weight loss
drugs to kids, you know, that
really remains to be seen. And
they're only approved for people
12 And up right now. Oh,
Adam Curry: because Oh, drove it
up.
Unknown: This is a good start,
if people are curious about that
is insurance covering weight
loss drugs for children
start covering starting at the
age of 12. But many of the
private insurance companies are
being very restrictive about
coverage. So it's not enough to
be obese very often to get
expensive, right? They're very
expensive drugs. And then if
you're on Medicaid, and most
people don't realize this, the
majority of kids in this country
are on Medicaid, nevermind
lawyer communities and state
Medicaid programs really cannot
afford to be covering these for
all kids.
Adam Curry: I can almost read
the material she was given. It
was just like the movies. Were
here comes the representative.
Okay, you know, but we're really
this is very important because
you know, kids need access to
this. Do you know how many
children most children in
America on Medicaid because
they're poor? They're poor? And
you know, black kids they know
they have they're more prone to
diabetes, because you know, they
live in the only God is Dollar
General now down at McDonald's,
I mean, come on
Unknown: low income families and
communities are hardest hit by
this obesity epidemic. How do
these interventions work in
those words? Well,
it's really hard you can say to
somebody portion control, and
here's how to read food labels.
And this is what you should
stick to fresh foods, not
packaged foods. But if you can't
even buy that, or if it's not
affordable access to time,
right? You don't. These are not
realistic education.
Because all of these habits are
passed down generational
generational
Adam Curry: culture,
Unknown: the family and culture
community and that's hard to
change. Dr. Brower, thank
you so much. It's really
fascinating. You
Adam Curry: can fasten that you
can just wait for it that's
coming is coming is coming. This
is the entire push. By the way.
You guys are on DH and plug you
were talking about the new
McDonald's concept. MC cosmic I
think is what it's called. I
think that MC cosmic is genius.
I think they've launched it at
exactly the right time. Because
it is like a crack house for
crack addicts and as drive thru,
because you it's It's Sugar
Bombs, it's got. It's got
colors, it's got crazy names.
It's highly TIG talkable. And we
don't have to worry about it
because just go get a shot. He
just go get a shot. Just go get
a shot. Now. I think
John C Dvorak: we indicated this
to our Well, I don't think we
really thought it was genius by
any means. But
Adam Curry: I think McDonald's
for the win. If I was an
investing man, I'd invest in
McDonald's, not advice. Now we
do have a little problem. We
have a little bit of a problem
because this is just GLP one
stuff. As you know, this is a
generic PE you don't necessarily
need the ozempic will go P
brands. You can get it at your
pharmacy you can have a compound
and this is this is a problem.
So Sanjay Sanjay Yeah, we want
you to do a report. We're gonna
have it we're gonna give you the
exclusive. But we're gonna have
we're gonna Dr. Jen's gonna roll
it out too. So you might as well
roll it out
Unknown: first. Sanjay was in
control centers across the
country, so they're seeing a
15 100% increase in people
accidentally overdosing
uninjected Weight Loss drugs.
15 100% CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay
Gupta joins us wait wait, are
there
John C Dvorak: real numbers here
because 15 100% means you can go
from one to two is like 1,000%
or 100%. Well, we went I went to
15 I mean, you know it's never
been reported before that just a
percentage numbers useless. We
need numbers do they get they
give them nevermind. I'm sure
they give them yes,
Adam Curry: they do. Actually 2%
of the American public is taking
these drugs 2% of them American
public is taking these drugs,
people and they're laid off
injecting. Listen to the report.
Sanjay is rolling it out. He's
got the exclusive poisoned
people
Unknown: accidentally overdosing
on injected weight loss drugs.
15 100%. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta
joins us now, Sanjay, are these
all connected? Why is this
happening with this, this is
kind of amazing. If you look at
just the number of prescriptions
that have gone out there, it's
skyrocketed. Most of these drugs
have only been around a few
years now. But just take a look
at sort of what's happened over
the past few years, close to 2%
of the population of this
country has been prescribed this
medication at some point. That's
that's, that's shocking. I mean,
these are huge. And obviously,
even around the world, this is
prescribed a lot. As you
prescribe more and more, you're
not surprised to get more and
more sort of accidental
poisonings, overdoses, things
like that. But I want to show
you something else that I think
is important here, you started
to see the numbers go up in
March of 2022. All the shortages
started happening. And what
happened as a result, pharmacies
came in and they started making
their own, they started making
their own compounded sort of
versions of this that were not
tested for safety and efficacy.
And you started to see the
poisoning rates go up at that
point as well. So that may be
part of this.
Adam Curry: Don't take that
stuff. You might die. Don't take
the stuff from your pharmacy is
poison. It's unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
been a war against compounding
pharmacies for as long as we've
been doing the show. Yes. But
Adam Curry: this is clearly and
squarely targeting, you know,
any alternative to
John C Dvorak: $1,000 Compared
to 20? Yes.
Adam Curry: Something like that.
Yeah. People turn off what
John C Dvorak: is by the way, do
they describe in his crappy
report, the symptoms of
overdosing on these things? Yes.
Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't
cut that. But yeah,
John C Dvorak: I would just say
what it was, oh,
Adam Curry: literally puking
diarrhea, painting your gut
this. To me, that's all the
features of this stuff. Is the
poisoning is the same as the
actual results of taking it. In
general. Yeah, it was it was
stupid. And then it's like,
well, you know, the half life of
this stuff is two weeks. So you
know, if you if you OD on it,
you can't just stop not like
getting your stop up. Be cute.
Puking for weeks. Yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna change
topics.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.
John C Dvorak: Let's start
there. So I'm watching the
interview with the industry.
This is one of those like mini
deconstructions with Tucker
Carlson and Alex Jones.
Adam Curry: Oh, I actually
texted with him about this. So
John C Dvorak: you texted who?
Alex? What did he say?
Adam Curry: No, I texted him. I
said, he does a great job on
Tucker. And he said, I can tell
you what he said. He said, What
is it? He said something like I
can I just got to look at my
text. Alex. Yes, here it is. He
said, The tide is turning across
the spectrum.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting. So it did get him
back on Twitter. I'm pretty sure
that triggered it because he
made a big fuss about that. But
I just caught a couple of things
that I thought were interesting.
And the first one is in clip one
is very short. And I want to
ask, I'll ask you about it
because I was confused by it.
Here we go.
Unknown: When you got D
platformed. it to this day, no
one has ever been more
aggressively censored. I don't
think then you have I have
apologized in person before I
was in Labrador on a fishing
trip and missed the entire thing
was literally out of cell range.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: He says I
apologize to you. Yeah. What it
Why is he apologizing? Did he do
it? I mean, I can say I was I
had condolences. Maybe or I felt
bad about it, because this
happened could have been
anybody. But why is he
apologizing specifically?
Adam Curry: I believe having
seen this interview, which I
have heard a lot of people say
wow, you know, I he was a lot
more sane than I expected him.
Oh, he's
John C Dvorak: always good.
Jones has always been good on
these interviews.
Adam Curry: I think it's because
Tucker says somewhere in this
like no one came to your
defense. No, that's
John C Dvorak: the next clip.
I've
Adam Curry: got that too. That
comes right after it. Well, that
doesn't. That's what it was
about that. He apologize not
that he was going to do it per
se but he he felt like it. He
was out of the loop. He was
literally Out of cell range in
Labrador fishing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but but at
that point he needed to what's
the apology for? I don't know
coming to your defense is one
thing hide by you know what are
you apologizing for not coming
to your defense he would have
said hold
Adam Curry: on let me text
Tucker the hell you text hugger.
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go
with the second part is got
another little ditty in here,
which is at the very end, which
is like I didn't know this was
going on. I
Unknown: didn't know what
happened. But I got back and I
was and I read about it. I felt
like it was a major moment in
the history of American media. I
don't think anybody defended
you. When that happened. Anybody
with any kind of audience
for me when Tim Cook admitted
that he met on the weekend in
August 2017, with the other big
tech heads, and they made the
decision to curate like, it's a
museum and take me off. It was
hundreds of platforms. I mean,
it wasn't just all the big ones
that was everything from
LinkedIn, to our bank accounts
being taken away to everything
and suing that week and over the
next month. And I knew that I
was a test case and I wasn't
taken off those platforms for
any demonstrable reason. It was
the questioning the school
shooting thing that came later,
they went and kind of dredge
that up from my past just
questioning and a few times,
blew that up after I've been D
platformed. And said I was the
platform for that. But we
checked the record. I wasn't.
And so once they D platforming
it made the show in ways only
get bigger, but people actually
going to infowars.com and find
me on local radio stations and
things. So then they panic and
said, Okay, let's look at his
record and create more of a
reason. These big taken off. So
they took things out of context
from five, six years before blew
them up as a current thing out
of context. And deceptively
reported on what I've said, to
create a straw man argument to
them facilitate the reason
what's so crazy is if you asked
just a cross section of
Americans, who's responsible for
the Sandy Hook massacre of kids
at the school, no one remembers
the name of the murderer, Adam
Lanza. Okay, thank you. I didn't
remember Alex Jones, you they
effectively blamed you for a
school shooting that you were
not President, I have people
coming up to me in the parking
lot. You can ask my security
guy. He's been there when people
walk up and get Waje kill those
kids. And you know, I didn't
kill those kids. And they go,
Yeah, you did. And so that is
what this has turned into. Okay.
John C Dvorak: I find it very
peculiar that the public at
large. Is that dumb to think
that Alex Jones killed the kids
at Sandy Hook? And I believe
he's probably telling the truth.
Security Guard is in the studio.
True
Adam Curry: as well. I think
it's true as well. Yes, people
are very, you know, remember,
just like Vivec they're sitting
at home reading People Magazine
reading Oprah. Now Oprah is on
this on this shot. I should get
on it with my fat ass. This is
good. The Alex Jones? Well, I'll
give you an example of why
people believe this kind of why,
why they believe that stuff. And
I have some some thoughts about
all this. This is Piers Morgan
on the Alex Jones being back on
x. Oh,
Unknown: passionate defender of
free speech. There's a massive
clue in the name of the show
uncensored, and I believe in it.
I believe that all honestly held
opinions. However offensive they
are belong in the open, where
they can be challenged, debated
and exposed. But there are
limits on free speech. There are
laws and there is a line.
Adam Curry: I love that. I
believe in free speech. But
there's a line.
Unknown: I've always said that
Alex Jones is a perfect example
of where that line got crossed.
He's a conspiracy theorist and
shock jock in America made
hundreds of millions of dollars
by peddling outrageous lies at
the Sandy Hook School massacre
shooting was a hoax. For the
uninitiated. This is him
shouting at me. A week after
that massacre on CNN.
The tyrants did it. Hitler took
the guns. Stalin took the guns
mounted the guns. Fidel Castro
took the guns, though. Chavez
took the guns, and I'm here to
tell you 1776. Again, if you try
to take our firearms doesn't
matter how many lemmings you get
out there on the street begging
for him to have their guns
taken? We will not relinquish
them. Do you understand?
He kind of won that debate,
actually, because the only
response in America to the Sandy
Hook massacre was to do nothing.
In fact, they continue to sell a
lot more guns. A million new
guns get sold in America every
month. And they're already over
400 million in circulation. So
if you're wondering if you're
curious why there are so many
more mass shootings in America
than they used to be. That's why
and if you're wondering what's
going to happen in the next few
years as a million new guns into
circulation, and nothing gets
done to stop mass shootings. My
guess is there'll be a lot more
mass shootings.
Adam Curry: So there you go. So
Piers Morgan makes it about Alex
Jones equals mass shootings in
America. This is because of this
by the way, Peter Here's Morgan
I believe the guy who was
partially if not fully
responsible for spying on dead
people's phones and getting
their voicemails and publishing
them. Today a horrible man. But
there's something else going on
here. And you know, I don't like
Elon Musk. I don't trust him. I
think he's full of crap. He's
not an inventor. He's a
marketing guy, a very good one.
He's part of a cabal with Roelof
Botha, who is now the CEO of
Sequoia Capital. I've seen these
guys in action. I was at the
launch of the very first Tesla
Roadster when he bought it. I
went there with Ray lane. The
whole thing is creepy AF. And he
now he single handedly launched
the bull crap, electrified
revolution. And I don't care how
cool the cybertruck is
engineered this not a good thing
for the world. He has
effectively Skynet. Now we all
joke about oh, Skynet. He has
Skynet. He has a company that
will bore tunnels for the elites
to escape through. He has the
next generation of jacking into
your brain with neural net none
of that in any other world where
he was free speech. This guy
would be no good. But we're all
enamored with him Tony Stark,
the whole thing. It's beautiful
marketing is perfect. So then he
does this thing. It's set up by
of all people. Laura Loomer
actually was a part of this.
They set up the spaces. And
that's where Alex Jones was
reintroduced to x and Elon Musk
that I don't include any of
this, believe me, he comes out
with this whole thing. Well, I
went back into Twitter records.
And the reason you were banned
was not for anything you said
about Sandy Hook. The reason you
were banned is because you
assaulted Oliver Darcy, you
assaulted a journalist and
that's why you were banned. And
then he goes into this whole
thing at Musk is I mean, the
whole thing is full of crap. And
all these people start to jump
in on what I call the info
Mavericks. Or maybe we should
call them the truth warriors.
Laura Loomer upfront who kept
trying to jump in. Yeah, Alex,
when you and I were there, we
said we got right and Jack
Dorsey's face. And so they start
cutting Laura Loomer off because
she's annoying. Laura Loomer is
annoying. And she just keeps
jumping in and they were cutting
her off and then she's all
leaves in a huff. And they bring
in all these other people but
there's, there's the there's the
guy who was in hungry, whatever,
wherever you live, what's his
name Tate that he comes in, and
then Vivec jumps in, and all
these people are all jumping in.
This is the new mainstream media
and Elon Musk is in charge of
this. He is the hero beware of
false idols. Beware of false
idols. Here's a Jake Tapper on
the on what happened here? Let
me see. Do I want this one? No,
I don't want that long. I get
this one
Unknown: says Alex Jones account
has been restored. Now it's not
just up there. It's actively
being promoted across the
platform.
That's right, Jake. Yeah, I'm
Alex Jones. It looks like he's
he's actually grown his audience
by about 100,000 followers just
being since put back on the
platform, our colleague Claire
Duffy, reporting that people
have opened up x the Twitter app
today. Even if they haven't
followed Jones, a lot of people
have been saying that in the
algorithmic feed that promotes
accounts suggesting to people
that they should follow Jones's
account. That is, of course,
five years after he was
initially kicked off the
platform. And really, you know,
I think this is just so
illustrative of what we're
seeing happen with x, but also
with Elon Musk, because he kind
of journeys very publicly down
this rabbit hole of conspiracy
theories, Jake. So
Adam Curry: this is a launch by
Elon Musk. It's a launch and
He's launching something really
big. And I think we have to be
very careful. I mean, Alex is
Alex and he's a sweetheart. He
was dropped on his head, his
baby, that's actually true. So
he does have some brain day he'd
be the first to tell you that.
But he's basically a sweetheart
and he's more right than he's
wrong. In many things. I don't
think he's part of any
gatekeeping community but Elon
Musk is and he's building up a
whole bunch of people around him
and they're willing participants
they're all I mean, it's Megyn
Kelly it's bond Gino, it's all
these people and they're
distracting everybody into this
audio visual Twitter world of
like Tim Poole stuff it's it's
creepy
Unknown: Yeah, he's he's not
even just bring this the account
back. He's playing a role in
elevating Alex Jones account
last night he hosted this x live
stream interview with with him
and a whole bunch of other
questionable folks were were
joining him Andrew Tate, this
misogynistic internet
personality who was indicted on
human trafficking and rape
charges in remote Romania
earlier this year. And to be
completely frank Dhoni, Tate
wasn't even the worst dude in
that conversation. What? Why is
Musk even engaging with these
people? Yeah. And
look, I mean, I think you showed
there that tweet, as you pointed
out, very human tweet from Musk
last year, where he said, Look,
what, what Alex Jones said,
there was so false and
disgusting about Sandy Hook,
that he would never get back on
the platform. Because of that.
You've now seen that over the
past year, Musk, you know, kind
of going further and further and
further to the fringe even up to
a few weeks ago, agreeing with a
anti semitic posts, which he
later tried to clarify and did a
trip to Israel and things like
that. But you know, I've spent a
lot of the past few years
speaking to people who have gone
down rabbit holes of
radicalization theories and
speak to families of Oh, who
have loved ones. And it is quite
reminiscent of that when you see
that, of course, but in this
case, it is one of the most
powerful and one of the
wealthiest men in the world. And
he's promoting these people. And
I will just say that that audio
stream you mentioned, on last
check, it had 11 million people
11 million listeners. Now, of
course, numbers online can be a
little deceiving, but needless
to say, millions of people now
have access to this junk.
Adam Curry: Yes, people love the
junk. Go I have a very bad
feeling about this. I really do.
This is this is this is a
distraction is being set up.
It's like follow the plan, trust
the plan. Now a storm is coming,
which is what the Bolsheviks
said all the time.
John C Dvorak: It was what was
that message? Jones said back to
you again.
Adam Curry: He said I want to
get it verbatim. He said the tie
again here is he said The tide
is turning across the spectrum.
And now there is a tide is
turning because things are
starting to eat themselves the
wokeness in companies I mean
stuff is coming out things are
definitely changing. But I don't
trust this group. I just I and
musk at the helm. And then like
and he's like, Oh, I shall I
shall reinstate you ping. I will
wave my made magic fairy wand
and you're back and good to go.
I don't and I'll and Tucker is
also probably a part of this.
And it's not like a secret
society. But you know, what is
Tucker doing? He's back with
that. Whistleblower on the UFOs.
Oh, boy. Yeah, I'm very good. He
went on redacted which please
don't send me clips from
redacted. I'm not interested in
redacted. And Tucker did an
interview on redacted because we
know Clayton and Natalie Morris.
I personally Yeah, personally,
I'm not impressed. What are they
doing in Portugal? Roche.
They're pro television people.
You train Natalie. So yeah,
they're pros. And I don't know
about that guy do I do. But
Tucker goes on there. And it's
like, let me tell you the thing
I'm most worried about is UFO.
So it's really you know, the
government's holding stuff back
and dude, no, no. So I I'm this
is this is a weird
John C Dvorak: issue too.
Adam Curry: Yes. What's your
issue? What's your issue?
John C Dvorak: I think Tucker's,
you know, well, we always have
to remember anyone who says they
wanted to be a spy for the CIA
probably is one. It's like a
friend of mine, Gina Smith, who
has been on television she has
been around. She told me about
the whole thing where the CIA
approached her while she was in
college because she was in
journalism. And she did laid out
the whole thing about can you
work for us? You don't really
you're not really working for us
but we'll send you a check every
so often we're going to have to
call you because sometimes we
need to make some this was
recently Yeah, we have to get a
certain kind of a message out we
needed to be consolidated it
really they really said
Adam Curry: it like that. Pretty
much Wow.
John C Dvorak: And she wasn't
going to be working for the
agency but she was going to be
in touch.
Adam Curry: How come I don't get
that call? If I never got the
call. I got family in the CIA
and I didn't get that call.
John C Dvorak: But you yourself
said that they don't
Adam Curry: you know, what is
it? They didn't they never liked
the drugs. I think it was the
day don't like
John C Dvorak: drugs and like
draws like a key thing in your
day when drinkers, they like
drinkers. drinkers is good.
Yeah. So she went on and on
about this and and I always
thought, Okay, I'll remember
that. And I was there. Of
course, I don't know what the
criteria is. There's probably
one specific. And I think talker
is one of these guys. And I
think the other one wants to be
in the CIA or wanted to be made
a big fuss about it is Kara
Swisher Kara. And there's
others. There's a bunch of them.
It's usually the funny thing
about this is always on the wiki
page, which is to Me a tell
that's designed for people in
the know to spot and say, oh,
okay, that's, we know which side
you're on. Yeah, I think it's
put there on purpose.
Adam Curry: You know, we may not
we may get things wrong a lot.
We may be full of crap. But I
think we're more trustworthy
than what's going on here. This
is not good. This is not what
Elon is doing. At the idolatry
that is taking place around
everything he does. And Eli's
neck deep and government
contract. That's all that he
doesn't. And why so Okay, so Ha,
boy, we'll we'll make your cars
look bad for a moment here.
Yeah, you know, we'll, we'll
we'll make a dei problem out of
out of your hiring practices at
SpaceX, but not a single
contract is cancelled. In fact,
he's, he he's only sold more
Starlink. To military. And he
doesn't really cop to it either.
That's why he was in in Israel.
He was selling Starlink.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why
he was there was doing it wasn't
an Apollo no sales sales
Adam Curry: call. It was a sales
call. So then when you know,
when you get this question here,
last clip?
Unknown: Yeah, it's we should
also know, Jones offenses are
there more than just the Sandy
Hook campaign, which was vile
enough in and of itself. But,
you know, he had a lot of files
that the insurrection on January
6, who are charged with serious
crimes, and one wonders, is Elon
Musk trying to chase normal
people off x, is he trying to
chase advertisers away even more
than he already has?
I mean, I think the conventional
wisdom here would say, you know,
this is going to push
advertisers away, it certainly
is going to be very interesting
what major brands, like
including the NFL are going to
do as this platform continues to
seemingly descend. But let's not
forget, there is a lot of money
in bullshit as well, right? I
mean, we saw this through the
Jones trial, how he made a lot
of money. And if you really tap
into this world, along with
Tucker Carlson and General
Michael Flynn and others, people
who who are taking kind of park
now in this new X community,
that can potentially be quite
lucrative, and potentially,
that's the direction Musk wants
to go a lot
of money and a lot of votes, a
Adam Curry: lot of votes. Hey,
okay.
John C Dvorak: A lot of vote.
Yep. Oh, by the way, code word,
left wing code, word assignment.
A certain side of things is
vile. Oh, is
Adam Curry: that a code word?
Vile?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've
noticed that for it. Because I
told people that and they use it
all the time. They file vile
about me. Thank you. It's like a
secret handshake,
Adam Curry: where you say via
what you guys said bullshit on
the air that's new that used to
be like that. I used to be a no,
no. See, I had one other thing
that I was meaning to play from.
Oh, yes. So anyway, it stinks.
The whole thing stinks. I'm sure
that you know, the the whole
idea is get as many people on X
believing and all in all Elans
get Flynn was also on that call.
I mean, I hate to say it, but my
neighbor, you know, she's
another one of them. I'm just
like, you know, let's all go
crazy about this one particular
thing, this one particular
topic. Let's all focus on that
today. That's we're supposed to
be looking at it meanwhile, who
is your neighbor, Laura Logan.
And meanwhile, Pfizer just gets
thrown into the NDA and we're
all talking about Obama being
racist. Do you see you see the
pattern? That's that's what I'm
seeing. I'm seeing like everyone
talks about Obama's a racist,
but meanwhile, it's like oh,
China, China, Korea, Iran, Iran,
Iran Hall got back home and you
Oh, space. Oh, space. We need
more money for space for
defense. And then oh, by the
way, no one's talking about the
FISA being extended. Renewed
right there in the bill, except
for Matt gates on C span.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and
everyone thinks he's nuts. Yeah,
he's a child molester.
Adam Curry: That's and who's out
there calling him a horrible
person. Laura Loomer. She's on
Twitter going mad gay. It's it's
common. Yeah, we're gonna you're
gonna learn about him. She's
this what she's doing all day
long and she's she's kind of
like the ugly step step sister
of this of this group, like, Oh,
I'm gonna let her in, because
she has Alex's number, but she's
annoying. cut her off. cut her
off. Cut all of them off.
John C Dvorak: Okay, all right.
Hey, H topics again.
Adam Curry: Yep. Do you want to
hear the OP want to hear the OP,
John C Dvorak: there's an OP,
Adam Curry: there's an OP, the
OP is moving to Harvard. If
Unknown: you're a Swifty, you'll
probably like this course. If
you're a fan of Taylor Swift and
literature, you'll probably love
it. You can learn a lot from
Taylor Swift and earn credits
for it this spring at Harvard.
It's a literature
John C Dvorak: course. And it
has a lot of songs and
songwriting.
Unknown: The course is the
brainchild of Harvard English
professor Stephanie Byrd. It's
called Taylor Swift in her world
and will focus on the
songwriters, lyrics and creative
composition and how they're
connected to other page based
poets and authors,
John C Dvorak: you know, William
Wordsworth and Samuel Taylor
Coleridge, who wrote some of
their poems in the Lake
District, which Taylor has
visited and has song about the
class
Unknown: is also a chance to
study how swift employs video,
her social media and stage
presence and even couture as
vehicles for her art. News of
the course is already blowing up
social media, an estimated 300
students have already enrolled,
I think
it's really important to include
music or culture into normal
pedagogies to get students
engaged.
Adam Curry: I think it would be
really cool and to connect like
different subjects to her music
at the end of the day, I
Unknown: mean, there's a reason
people want to have a course on
it. So after discussion,
John C Dvorak: I love that I'm
able to do this in a way that
both gives people the chance to
study and write about things
they already love. All right,
and not
Adam Curry: just flip at
Harvard, John at Harvard.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
where it belongs. Wow. Actually,
you're better songs which are
few and far between. She didn't
even write but okay. I have a
while fraud story from NTD. That
is worth playing. Okay, let's
Adam Curry: do it. A new poll
Unknown: shows one in five male
and voters committed some kind
of election fraud in 2020.
Former President Trump is now
commenting suggesting this backs
up his years old claim of
widespread fraud and today's
area and past our spoke with the
pollster. A
new Heartland Rasmussen poll
found that 21% of male in voters
admitted to filling out a ballot
for somebody else in the 2020
presidential election. 10% of
all respondents said they know
somebody who admitted to casting
a mail in ballot fraudulently,
and 8% of likely voters said
they've been offered the pay or
something else for voting. Now
almost half of all 2020 votes
were cast by mail the most ever
in US history. Consider
how close the 2020 election was.
This is extremely troubling. Jim
Lakely
is the vice president of the
Heartland Institute, which
conducted the poll. He said they
expected that maybe 5% of Malin
voters would admit to some kind
of voter fraud, and that they
were shocked when they saw the
number was over 20% Former
President Trump took to social
media commenting on the poll,
writing this is the biggest
story of the year, and
Republicans must do something
about it. Now lately told me
that some states did actually
have reasonable safety measures
in place when it comes to mail
in voting, but that those were
abandoned during the COVID
pandemic. He also says that
people are now being discouraged
from talking about potential
voter fraud in the 2020
election, but that Americans,
including Democrats have
routinely questioned the
election results in the past,
for example, when George Bush
won against John Kerry, or
Trump's 2016 win,
yet suddenly in 2020, when
everybody can see with their own
eyes, that our election system
has been thrown into complete
chaos. That is the only election
in which it is not proper to
question whether the regional
results are legitimate. There
was no suppressing of those
sorts of ideas and thoughts for
every other presidential
election
since the year 2000.
Adam Curry: Yeah, isn't it
interesting that all we can talk
about is Alex Jones back on x.
John C Dvorak: When Nobody's
talking about this story? No, of
Adam Curry: course not. That's
no, that's my point. Where's
Megyn? Kelly on the story?
Where's Tucker on this story?
Where are these people on the
story? No.
John C Dvorak: Where do I get it
from?
Unknown: In TNT if
John C Dvorak: nobody listens to
them?
Adam Curry: Indeed, yes.
John C Dvorak: I just found this
to be like a wow story. And it
was like what this is the most
impressed story, because it does
bring into question. I mean,
this whole mail in balloting, we
know and has been reports has
been studies and Advancers I
think goes way back into the 70s
that it was always considered a
very bad idea because it was so
easily corruptible. Here. They
come up with some some survey
shows it was corrupted. Nobody
wants to hear about it. Well
forget it. And Trump, by the
way, saying, Oh, the Republicans
should do something about it is
a real laugh for
Adam Curry: him. But no, but the
point is, both Republicans and
Democrats employ these tactics.
They both they both they have to
this is going this coming
election is going to be who's
going to cheat the best. It's
obvious. That's why there's
there's no torque wash. We've
been doing this in Florida for a
long time. We don't want anyone
to learn how we do it. Like
John C Dvorak: California is
worse than Florida. There's no
question in my mind about that.
Adam Curry: By the way, this,
this product is special
prosecutor Jack Smith. Who's the
guy who's going after Trump?
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: it'd be his love
looking gun. Yeah. Well, his
background is starting to come
up a little bit. And the
allegation is that while he was
at the International Criminal
Court, he was part of like big
campaigns with 10s if not
hundreds of millions of euros
slash dollars. With bribery
money, Hey, you want me to not
prosecute, prosecute you better?
You better send me $10 million
in Bitcoin. I love the Bitcoin
part. There's a whistleblower
John Moynihan. He filed a
complaint with the Department of
Justice inspector general's
office on November 28, alleging
Jack Smith, special prosecutor
pursuing Donald Trump was
engaged in extortion. That's the
word extortion scheme while he
was working at the International
Court of Justice
John C Dvorak: was another story
I haven't seen on CBS. That's a
good story. I'd like to get
destroyed. This was floating
around even though I got it from
him. Yeah, I think this is it.
This is the Trump twist on the
Trump case. Turning
Unknown: now to some court
actions former President Trump
catches a break US District
Judge Tanya Chutkan. Today
halted all proceedings in his
federal election case. Trump is
appealing to have the case
dismissed on grounds of
presidential immunity, that
decision could potentially lead
to a significant delay in all
future proceedings. But Judge
Chutkan said that it doesn't
necessarily cancel the pre trial
deadlines. As of now,
prosecutors are urging Chutkan
to stay on track and keep the
march 4 trial date in place to
speed things up. Special Counsel
Jack Smith is hoping to skip the
appeals court and instead let
the Supreme Court hear the case.
Despite the temporary pause
Chutkan noted that the gag order
is still in effect. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is this is in
the news. This? I have seen
this.
John C Dvorak: So yeah, it's
hard to understand what's
actually going on? Well,
Adam Curry: it seems like the
Supreme Court will have some say
over this. And I think the point
is that the dates that Jack
Smith wants in March, you know,
to start all this to make sure
they put them behind bars before
the election. That seems like
those dates are in parallel now.
And and so I guess the Supreme
Court can just delay and delay
and delay. Well, the
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court
from their recent track record
isn't going to even take this
thing. There's no evidence that
they will. I mean, if did way
I've been watching the Supreme
Court, they would go it would go
like this. Why didn't this go to
an appeals court before it got
to us?
Adam Curry: I'm not the expert,
but we have an expert. And he
can rob can probably tell us our
Supreme Court attorney.
John C Dvorak: Yes, he will.
Maybe he will. Maybe we'll get a
note from him.
Adam Curry: I hope so. Before we
take a break, I think because
we're we're running we're
running long here. I think we
should talk about Ukraine and
Zelinsky coming in and and
trying to try to get some money.
He was he was literally hanging
out with defense contractors.
There's pictures of for the
Boeing guys the Raytheon guys,
he's he's just doing sales for
them. They're like, Hey, Blood,
good work. Come on, man. Get
some credit, get some credit.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with this Ukraine hang up
Democracy Now. Clip as you have
this takes us anywhere.
Unknown: Ukrainian president
Volodymyr Zelensky ended his
high stakes day in Washington,
DC Tuesday, with little progress
and securing additional war
funding. President Biden vowed
the US would support Ukraine
quote as long as we can,
unquote, and urged Congress to
pass a spending request of over
$100 billion, which also
includes funding for Israel,
Taiwan, and further
militarization of the US border.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just
gonna keep going, though.
John C Dvorak: This is Amy. What
is she talking about further
further militarization of our
border. That's what does that
mean? She's borders wide open.
There's no militarization of the
border.
Adam Curry: Amy, come on, this
is what she does. We love Amy
for that we love we love her
little quips she's beautiful.
She she should be a professor at
Harvard. She be perfect.
Actually, she'd be she shouldn't
be an honorary John.
John C Dvorak: Actually, I'm
surprised she's not.
Adam Curry: I have a little
different take on it. I've only
two clips. Because Vladimir
Putin, President of Russia,
running for his fifth term. He
did his big show the big show
again. It was He cancelled it
last year. This is the TV show
where he goes live for hours and
hours and hours. And just any
he's joking around. He's
answering questions. He's got a
whole panel there. Yeah. Does
Trump owe many times over this?
It's a great show. I mean, I
don't understand Russian of
course, but luckily, we have
douchebag Doug from France 24.
And he's going to give us a
little quick overview, and then
we'll get the Dortch Avella
version. But But I love
douchebag dog because he tries
to do sarcasm at this very
dangerous when you do sarcasm
because people take that
seriously. If you're I don't
know not funny.
Unknown: Yeah, his position
hasn't changed at all. If
anything after being canceled
last year. This has been his
first annual marathon press
conference since the Russian
invasion of Ukraine. If
anything, he has a lot of stress
in his steps this year. Why?
Because it comes at a crucial
moment. It comes at a moment
where Western support Western
military aid for Ukraine appears
to be dwindling as Republicans,
especially in the United States
Congress block a new aid
package. This impotence do
validates what he's been saying
all along that the West is
basically doesn't have the
staying power, that it's weak
and DEC decadent and ultimately
that Putin and his forces his
army will outlast the Western so
called resolve the as long as it
takes resolved, standing
shoulder to shoulder with
Ukraine. He's reiterated that
and his objectives when I say
nothing's changed in his
position, yes, it was canceled
last year. This press
conference, right. This was the
first time after one year
hiatus. It was being held again.
But what he said is our
objectives there won't be peace
until we achieve our objectives.
What are those objectives? They
were very he was very clear. In
regards to Ukraine, its
detoxification going back to
what has become the staple of
the false Kremlin narrative that
somehow they're neo Nazi Hunter
running Ukraine. So d not
suffocation, a word that we
hadn't heard as much lately, but
he's rehashed it this year, in
full in full force at this press
conference, de militarization of
Ukraine. Remember, it's not
Russia that's been the aggressor
here and attacked Ukraine and
invaded Ukraine. No, no, no.
It's the EU. It's Ukraine in the
West. We at the US and NATO's
behest, that invaded that
basically attacked Russia and
also returning Ukraine to
neutral status. He is unbending
unbowed. He says he's always
open for talks, but he's only
going to talk if when the with
the West is also willing to play
ball and talk.
Adam Curry: I mean, he makes it
sound like you like Ukraine
attack Russia. This guy is no
good. Doug needs a new gig. So
he pontificates about what Putin
saying Deutsche Avella. They
took it a lot more straight and
is a little more nuanced.
Vladimir
Unknown: Putin has said Russia
has goals in Ukraine remain
unchanged as he holds his end of
your press conference. In
Moscow, the Russian president is
taking questions from the public
and journalists in an event that
has been broadcast live on
Russian state television, and is
expected to last for hours and
they should put in who is
running for re election in March
canceled at last year's show.
And Russia's full scale invasion
of Ukraine. What is even worse,
we'll be analyzing what the
Russian president has said so
far in just a moment. But first,
let's have a listen to some of
what he's had to say.
Adam Curry: So this isn't so now
they're going live and they're
translating in live in real
time, the true translation of
what Putin said and you just
heard Doug pontificate on, he
could have been with this,
Unknown: there will be peace
when we achieve our goals. Now,
let's get back to these goals.
Well, they don't change. Remind
you of what we talked about
today about the suffocation,
about MIDI militarization,
neutral status and Windigo ideas
and with it, we will agree on
demilitarization agree on
certain parameters. During the
negotiations in Istanbul, we
agreed on it and they simply
through these agreements into
the oven. Other possibilities to
reach an agreement or to resolve
it by force is what we strive
for.
Adam Curry: Sounds a lot more
nuanced. Yeah. Yeah. And
demilitarized. You know what
that means? A demilitarized
zone?
John C Dvorak: It will French 24
doesn't like Putin at all and
we're getting Deutsche Avella
which we think is agent of the
CIA is probably part of the
system to try to stop this
thing.
Adam Curry: It has to stop again
bad product war is not a good
product.
John C Dvorak: And then there
are defense guys got their
Adam Curry: money. Now they want
more More than yeah well they
can always want more like always
getting there $886 billion worth
what a scam how your potholes
John C Dvorak: still there a lot
of them well they patch them
once in a while but I can still
find places where there's just
tons of them. With
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage in
the morning to you the man who
put the seeds in the Chinese
cyber actors ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end there John Cena
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. Adam curry in the
morning chips to see boots on
the ground feet near subs in the
water. games nights out there
man
Adam Curry: nope, nope, not we
have. What did? Oh, goodness.
1658.
John C Dvorak: Down.
Adam Curry: We're down. We're
dying here. We're dying on the
vine.
John C Dvorak: That should be
1800 on Thursday. Well, it's
Adam Curry: not 200 drove we
drove away. It was the Taylor
Swift clip. I'm sure of it.
John C Dvorak: I would have done
it.
Adam Curry: I apologize. I
didn't mean to do it. They
trolls Good to have you here you
can become one as well. Go to
troll room.io You can listen
live no agenda streams was
playing there. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Hey, I didn't
hear it today. I didn't hear the
pre show. But I understand that.
Darren went nuts over Taylor
Swift. He just did a whole show.
He
Adam Curry: did a he did a
Taylor Swift Def Leppard mix.
Yeah, he's right. He's right. I
know. I don't know what I don't
know what's wrong with him?
Well, I do but I don't know
what's gotten into. We all know
what's wrong with there. And
that is what you can listen to
before we start live. We do the
show live on Thursdays and
Sundays. You can listen to the
Rock and Roll pre show before
that. That is the illustrious
Darren O'Neill, who by the way
was talking about all that stuff
on Tuesday. He was talking about
the about the mailing ballots he
broke that news. He has a show
with Sir Jean and they must
John C Dvorak: say hell biggest
50 listeners are all the way up
on now. More than don't kidding
I kid
Adam Curry: you know he's he
plays all this stuff. And he
makes fun of you throughout the
whole show. Now, you've become
the show layman.
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't if I
was him. I do the same thing. To
defensive major.
Adam Curry: We also recommend
that you get a modern podcast
app. Man, this if you're looking
for something that's great on on
your iPhone, I'm sorry to hear
that you have an iPhone cast
thematic. If you're looking for
a great the experience on the
web pod fans. There's I'm liking
podcast guru, right and right
now, fountain is completely
refactored, they finally
released version one. I mean,
there's a lot of activity going
on the best thing about these
apps, besides the fact that you
get notified when we go live,
you get notified within 90
seconds of us updating the show,
you can't get that with any
other old legacy app, you want
to have the new stuff. And if
anyone ever gets the platform
thrown off of Apple or any other
of those big platforms, you'll
still will be uninterrupted
entertainment for you. Thanks to
the modern podcast apps. Yeah,
that's good stuff.
John C Dvorak: It is. I want to
make a can I make an
announcement before we get too
far into this and people started
hanging up?
Adam Curry: Well, is it about
eggs?
John C Dvorak: No, it's about
process. I want to remind people
if they if they ordered their
PhD, they should go to the no
agenda rings.com site and send
us an address to mail them to
which apparently a lot of people
have figured well, didn't you
get it from PayPal? Or? I don't
know. I didn't know that. Oh,
really? Do we have that issue?
Adam Curry: Do you know it's I'm
pretty sure every single
knighting and naming ceremony I
specifically say enter the
address where you want us to
send the ring and your wax and
your certificate? I'm pretty
sure I say that.
John C Dvorak: You do and every
single show we always tell that
people that know something but
we are a little lacs on telling
people to send their notes to
notes. At no agenda show.net
Instead of Gu
Adam Curry: that'll, that'll
never get fixed. That'll never
get fixed
John C Dvorak: to they send one
to you and send one to me and
they send it you know, so I send
it to Jay and use DJ and has to
sort these out.
Adam Curry: I know. Oh, she is
finally starting. There you go.
She's starting to complain. She
John C Dvorak: didn't. She
mentioned it wasn't complaining.
She's got
Adam Curry: the COVID we're
breaking her we're breaking J
Well, we
John C Dvorak: can keep going.
We'll get her as she's sick as
sucks. As she gets it flu. I
Adam Curry: think we're almost
over we took the ivermectin we
took quesiton D three. Yeah. And
it Tina got
John C Dvorak: Lindsay Do you
ever figure out what you have?
It wasn't
Adam Curry: I don't know I'm not
gonna test I'm not a moron. You
John C Dvorak: know to test you
can tell these things are all
slightly different. You sure you
should know your body enough to
say, Oh, I'm getting catching
the flu? Well,
Adam Curry: I know exactly what
I had. But if you want to know,
dude, I had the wave this
Unknown: morning hearing from
several
health experts about a potential
COVID 19 surge at the end of
this month.
That's right. The latest model
show a wave is coming. But ABC
Action wave
Adam Curry: is coming. It's j n
dot one baby. Don't you know the
wave is coming? The wave the
wave j n one the wave the best
hot his rock station?
John C Dvorak: That's what I'm
saying one way. One on your
dial.
Adam Curry: Dan one. Yeah,
exactly. Exactly. Yeah, people
helped Jay out. And by the way,
you know, it'll never be linked
from divorce.org/na. But no
agenda donations.com It has all
that information there. And I
say this, I say I give this
address as well. All right,
yeah, you can't change people's
behavior. We can try. But if you
want your rings, then you get it
much faster
John C Dvorak: diplomas, too, we
gotta get we gotta get the rest
of them out Ross ship. If the
6075 Oh,
Adam Curry: through process
people. Process closing process,
I
John C Dvorak: wanted to make a
complaint about process. And so
there you have it.
Adam Curry: And you should sign
it the management. All caps, all
caps. Value for value is the
entire system here, which is now
being used everywhere around the
internet, people are catching on
to the idea. Of course, we knew
this 16 years ago, this is the
only model for the future.
John C Dvorak: They will it's a
it's a safe model, because you
can't get D platformed. Right.
You can't get somebody put some
one lunatic. pressuring your
advertisers is all it takes to
get them all care where we
shouldn't advertise with them.
Now, it only takes one lunatic.
Yep,
Adam Curry: that's right. And
one loud lunatic and I think we
have a few.
John C Dvorak: We have more than
a few loud lunatics. Again, some
nasty notes recently. We'd have
when you were going to read
Adam Curry: this coming up
what's coming up in a minute.
It's a doozy. It's a real it's a
real doozy. So the concept is
time, talent or treasure. We
give you all the value we have.
And we've been we really try
hard. I mean, we work all week
at this stuff. We do during
holidays. Vacations, we take
probably about two shows a year
off. And total was was I think
it was one more this year
because of some surgical stuff I
was going through. I really
really couldn't talk. Otherwise,
chop an arm off and I'll still
show up that's a shutout but
there's a lot of things that
people can do and you can
contribute because we don't
consider your listeners or fans
or the audience. No, you are
producers of the no agenda show.
We do it all together. You are
no agenda nation. There's a lot
of things you do on your own
motivation. See the meetups, but
you know, meetup site,
everything. Everything has been
done by you guys. I mean, even
the concept like douchebag de
douching karma, none of that.
We're not that creative. We
didn't dream that we're not
creative. We don't have any
meeting like hey, let's go over
some creative No, you guys do
it. We Oh, that's creative.
Yeah, a lot of the clips, a lot
of the great finds a lot of
fantastic things. It is all you
and it is really appreciated.
Now, some people have more
talent than others. Some have
more time than others. Some have
more treasure. The artists have
talent. And we want to thank the
clip custodian, Neil Jones for
the artwork for Episode 1615,
titled day one dictator. And of
course, we believe this was
complete AI but it was it was a
nice depiction of the Milgram
experiment. I love it when we
put these things on x. And we
you know, we send them out into
the ether and people go that
should be on a t shirt. I love
that that's how good this stuff
is. It is it is it. This was a
great piece. We love that a lot
the clip custodian. There's
another perfect example the clip
custodian. He sends me clips
every single show and his
brother, the clip collector. I
think he sends you clips. Steve,
John C Dvorak: does he not? Yes.
Steve says me a three by
Adam Curry: three by three.
Exactly. I mean, and you know,
and you know what's cool?
Sometimes then I'll send it
like, Hey, I got something else
to do. That's cool, too. That's
what makes it so beautiful. We
don't have contracts. There was
like, Hey, man, you're supposed
to deliver clips every single
show. Oh yeah. You're fired,
you're fired. You're no good.
John C Dvorak: That's actually
the only thing we miss, like
the, like
Adam Curry: the Art Generator,
you know. So sir Polka toured.
But the thing has been running
for over 12 years. 13 years. And
he actually now on no agenda art
generated.com. He has a preview
down at the bottom of what the
new generator will look like.
And he has a note for us at the
top. I see that. Yeah, he says
the legacy chapter artworks. Now
this is important because we
were using those, you know, this
would Dred Scott does another
great guy with time on his
hands, who does all the chapter
art that work in the modern
podcast apps? And I think also
on no agenda. show.net, he said
was almost able to deploy before
the start of the show and may
still be able to get deployed
before the end of show dealing
with some config issues in
production. I hate JavaScript
developers. Wow. So it'll be he
says,
John C Dvorak: everybody does
Dante.
Adam Curry: I die. I have no
opinion on that. And down at the
bottom, it looks like it's gonna
be beautiful. And so we're
patient. We're cool. And he's in
everyone's chipped in,
everyone's figured it out.
They're posting a no agenda
social. He's linking it in. It's
a beautiful thing, man, we
appreciate it. Take your time,
brother. That's part of how it
works here. And don't pressure
him. No pressure him. So this is
where it's Oh, of course, we
don't have the same level of, of
supply. Just because it's, you
know, it's it's a more
complicated process. I'm sure a
couple artists like well, you
know, I wait, you know, they'll
wait until it's back up. But
still people are doing it and
we're so thankful for that. So
thankful. So thank you to the
clip custodian. There were a
couple other pieces we
discussed. I liked the CIA
manual from Francisco
Scaramanga. And you can play
along at home if you want to
know genart. generator.com Yeah,
you didn't like that one. I
thought it was funny. To
John C Dvorak: strictly use you
couldn't see that he was can't
read that little thing in there
and little
Adam Curry: read. Can't read it.
And you can read that just fine.
But
John C Dvorak: I'm going to use
that as the example of future
example when you bitch and moan
about it. You can't read it.
That is my new. I kind of like
to train Yeah, we did talk about
the train. Right. It was like it
was so AI that it was to AI.
Side. particularly funny. No,
no.
Adam Curry: Train comb your
hair, man. No, I mean, this was
it. This was the one I
John C Dvorak: think the robot
was also AI and then the globe
thing was AI. And then there was
a it was all I said, all these
pieces, except maybe one or two
of them. Which were the lamer
ones
Adam Curry: speaking, speaking
of AI, they want to hear this is
a fun thing. If someone taught
me this today, so if you go into
chat GPT and you say, I have I'm
typing this now three towels on
a clothes line, and it takes
three hours for them to dry. How
long will it take nine towels to
dry? I asked you what would the
answer be?
John C Dvorak: The real answer
should take about the same
amount of time.
Adam Curry: The drying time for
towel I'm reading this live the
drying time for towels depends
on various factors including the
material of the towels dishes,
neither
John C Dvorak: typical of these
answers the air
Adam Curry: the air circulation.
However, if we assume that the
conditions remain constant, you
can make a simple assumption
that the drying time is directly
proportional to the number of
tiles in this case, if it takes
three hours for three towels to
dry, you can estimate that it
would take nine towels three
times as long, assuming all
other factors remain constant.
Therefore it might take
approximately nine hours for
nine towels to dry under the
same conditions. Yeah, wrong.
Yeah. Keep in mind, this is a
rough estimation. And the actual
dries could vary based on
factors mentioned earlier. How
stupid is this? It can't do
math. I love I listen as well.
John C Dvorak: Is that really
math or logic? It's pretty
Adam Curry: basic. I mean,
you're saying you're excusing
this behavior?
John C Dvorak: This is this I
think AI is the best is from
Adam Curry: an $89 billion
company.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
that minor
Adam Curry: thing. minor thing.
So yeah, people Yeah, yeah, at
least we get funky art. Yay.
Good. Good for you. Because
John C Dvorak: these guys if you
if you know how to use these art
generators, the AI ones and you
can fine tune it. You can
correct it. You know how to do
it. Yeah, you can produce some
because we've been picking
really good stuff. Yeah, that's
great. Totally. I mean, I yeah,
I we don't worry so much about
plagiarism.
Adam Curry: No, exact that's a
thing of the past. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Why bother? Why
bother your plagiarize anymore?
Are why bother to the US?
clipart?
Adam Curry: Exactly. Give up
those licenses. This
John C Dvorak: is really this is
a I think it's a on the on the
other clip side of the AI.
Praise is the fact that is this
is I guess in the hands of real
good artists is maybe a benefit.
But I think overall it's a it's
a it's costing jobs. It's gonna
cost jobs,
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, and
jobs. Some jobs. But you know,
we lost the buggy drivers to
replace them with cabbies, but
turbans in New York.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they've got
to be replaced by self driving
vehicles except in San Francisco
with
Adam Curry: fire 900 People from
cruise. Cruise cruisers shutting
down.
John C Dvorak: They have to
Adam Curry: one guy they drag
one guy. Yeah. How fair is that?
One guy they drag along the
streets of San Francisco. Gotta
fire 900 people. Where's the
equity in that? I asked you.
Yeah. Well, speaking of New
York, Rick Schell duar. He's in
Brooklyn comes in with what I
call the striper donation.
Seven, seven. And he says, I saw
sir spoon makers ring at the
Brooklyn meetup. Oh, there was a
Brooklyn meeting. I didn't get
the meetup report. Oh, there we
have producers in Brooklyn who
met is I want one. This donation
should bring me up to 1000 I'm
thankful my brother. My brother
Mel car and Tucson and my smokin
hot wife winter snark of 17
years, which is why I had to
leave the meet up. And oh my
case, what?
John C Dvorak: BOMA casi Alma
Cassie,
Adam Curry: what does that mean?
Like, Hey, is that fast? Like I
did meet lead the meet up? And
I'm a kossei
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't under I
don't know. I don't know what
you what we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna night you no matter
what. Thank you. And he doesn't
ask for anything else. So that's
easy one. Oh, my kossei.
John C Dvorak: So we have a note
from the indie in. In a meet F
in Greenwood, Indiana. Is this
this separate third week of the
same? No.
Adam Curry: Do we have? No, no,
no, this is the new media. This
is from the raffle. So they
finally figured out the raffle
they figured out because they
wanted to do it on the last
show. And like we could sneak it
in 10 minutes before you start
splitting.
John C Dvorak: But that show
before that, why didn't you do
it, then that's when you came
back. Because
Adam Curry: as I explained, they
have a very complicated process.
And it's very well organized,
just a little slow,
John C Dvorak: organized and may
switcheroo donation day.
Adam Curry: You can be grateful.
I'm grateful
John C Dvorak: for it. But I
would like it to be a little
more consolidated. I think there
this is
Adam Curry: the consolidation.
This is from the raffle. Those
other ones were people who were
just there and donated because
they were there. This is from
the raffle. And it's all
consolidated. It
John C Dvorak: is Yes. Which
rule donation from indie media
for Vikon of Hamilton and the
two pennies and no jingles. No
karma. Well, that's a plus. I
just want to thank Adam and Tina
for visiting. Okay. God bless.
Okay, so I guess that'll be the
end of it.
Adam Curry: No, because the next
one is also these are all the
you know how it works, they do a
raffle, and they consolidate it
all. And then they gave away
like four executive producer
ships and one associate and this
is and they sent it in one
email. What's your gripe?
John C Dvorak: Okay, just
saying, You
Adam Curry: know what I know,
I'm asking you a question.
What's your gripe? What's wrong?
What did they do wrong? So we
can make you a happier man?
Well, I don't
John C Dvorak: care one way or
the other. But I thought this
would all be resolved. And you
went there. And then there was a
big meet up report and you had
all the donations together and
everything you'd like normally
you do a meet up. And then if
there's a report on the meetup,
and then all the donations are
submitted, and they all goes
through at once. This is the
been the third week that we've
been doing the same plugs for
the India in a meet up
Adam Curry: now you don't
understand?
John C Dvorak: I guess not know.
They just say it's never
happened before.
Adam Curry: It's never they've
never had this many donations
before. Which is why I'm just
grateful. switcharoo donation
from the indie meetup for John
Jones 333. And he says just want
to thank Adam and the keeper for
coming to the Indianapolis
meetup. I was one of the lucky
winners of the raffle for an
executive producer level
donation. For the first oddly
enough 33 years of my life, I
had only been surrounded by
people of a particular mindset,
which I didn't share. It wasn't
until I started listening to the
show that I found that others
were similar free thinkers.
Thank you for the no agenda show
as I have not had to feel like I
was such an anomaly for the past
11 years. Yikes.
John C Dvorak: Beautiful.
Baronet to salty in Manchester,
New Hampshire 333 early Merry
Christmas to you and the
producers and listeners the best
podcast in the universe may the
Lord's face face face shine upon
you all love Baronet to salty of
Manchester. I was I had trouble
pronouncing the word borrowers.
Adam Curry: I heard that you
went Baba Wawa vers Raza
John C Dvorak: was weird funny
to get into a loop where I
couldn't say it and it was like
I'm concerned now that I
couldn't say borrow words. I
kept trying to put it as to one
borrower. I couldn't do it. And
it was just like, very annoying.
I'm wondering if that's a bad
thing. Well, I
Adam Curry: was thinking, Trojan
John C Dvorak: that's what
triggered my beat. 12 Thomas
Adam Curry: Perez is in
Minnetonka, Minnesota 333 This
is a switcheroo birthday
donation from my little bro
Henry. Happy Birthday buddy.
Couldn't let you stay a
douchebag for another year. D
Duchenne biscuit please.
Unknown: You've been de Deus.
They always give me my birthday.
John C Dvorak: All right.
Indeed. No agenda meet up once
again from Greenwood Indiana.
Switch another switcheroo raffle
them a big raffle. This is for
Sir Brian with an eye as opposed
to what grew up in India. It was
nice to see familiar faces and
make new friends but when I
returned to Texas, the doctors
could not determine how I
contracted RSV but thankfully I
listen to no agenda show so the
mystery is the mystery has been
solved. And thanks Emily. It's
been a fun two weeks on the germ
barge. This calls for an Obama
you might die in the morning.
Adam Curry: You might die in the
morning you might die don't have
the in the morning handy. But
yeah, you might die Sir Brian
with an eye versus her Brian
with a why. Another switcheroo
from the indie and a meet up.
This is the from the raffle
donation. This is for Sir Nick
dragon of the four domains. And
he asked actually this was a
good one. He said could you
please play the jingle John's
gonna hum the Sunday Times and
throw in a chef's on whoo I had
to look for it. But yes. John's
gonna Hama Sunday Yeah, classic
have not heard that. So
John C Dvorak: long ago, long,
long time. They had a
subscription to The New York
Times. And you use the helmet.
And white ever hummed it by
plays. I talked about some of
the headlines. It was just
turned out to be a dog of a
segment. Lavender blossoms are
buddies in Northfield,
Northville Michigan, I think is
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Special Thanks and happy
birthday to all. Oh,
Adam Curry: thank you much. I'm
just getting the next couple of
notes already here for some
reason that PDF wasn't sent but
a picture. Oh, then we get 285
from the Brooklyn drinking club
club meet up. And it's their
donation credit to individual
donors by their own accounting.
Okay, well, I love that they're
from Brooklyn, New York. And so
they will. They will they will
keep their own accounting for
that good work.
John C Dvorak: Chris kharsia in
San Jose California. tu tu tu tu
tu it's my Keeper's birthday on
December 14 And I want to give
her an executive title. No.
exact title for her please.
Okay, that's a switcheroo. It
should be noted. Yeah, we don't
have her name. Well,
Adam Curry: she'll become Dame
ie of the Treasure Valley. Let's
John C Dvorak: put her there for
the switcheroo. Okay, well so I
want to have her okay Dame
nights credit so she can become
debt Okay. Dame of the Treasure
Valley. With all my love to you
my Viking beauty.
Adam Curry: Eli the coffee guys
in Bensenville Illinois.
Palindrome 21212 attached note
Merry Christmas gentlemen. First
of all, I want to give a shout
out to Trevor in Colorado for
hitting me in the mouth and call
him out as a douchebag. I'm
thankful for both of you and
appreciate the hard work and
dedication which goes into
delivering a quality product
twice a week. I've been
listening to this since 2018.
I'm happy to say I'm no longer
douchebag is my wife and
business partner sometimes
points out She just calls you a
douchebag just in general. I'm
finally in a position to start
returning value after taking a
vow of poverty start my own
business. In 2021. My wife Jen
and I launched gigawatt Coffee
Roasters two weeks before the
world shut down a timing is
everything in business. Needless
to say, it's been a wild ride.
No agenda has kept me company
during the long hours, early
mornings and late nights that go
along with the startup. I'm
thankful for the whole na
community and would like to
offer a 20% discount to all
producers go to gigawatt coffee.
roasters.com use code ITM 20 For
your first order to pick up a
great bag of fresh air roasted
coffee for under 10 bucks. Stay
safe. No jingles no karma, just
good vibes blessings, and warm
holiday wishes for the whole na
family. Stay caffeinated. All
right. He
John C Dvorak: sent me a bunch
of the coffee.
Adam Curry: How was it? I was
gonna ask? Well, I
John C Dvorak: just got it. So
like yesterday, so I like to try
some. He's got he's got a couple
of things you should know. He's
got a lot of variety of coffees
especially as single source
stuff. He's got some weird
coffees that he's developed and
also some cans of coffee drinks
that he's developed him in CES
who's his wife, Jen, Jen was his
partner. And I would say in
terms of the packaging of the of
the cans and the beans
themselves. Top drawer I don't
know who he hired to do the
packaging and the style of
marketing for the packaging
themselves. He's got to he's got
barrel aged coffees, artists and
he's got every small batch
millennial and Gen Z Zinger on
their beautiful small batch.
Small batch everything small
batch. It's just it's absolutely
top drawer and I the coffee I've
had so far which is the disagree
barrel aged coffee from Sumatra.
I like it, but I want to try
some of the other ones and see
what he's got going on. I'll
have a report in about a month
after I go through some of these
coffees. Okay. Anyway, thanks
for the coffee. Groovy.
Adam Curry: Thank you, Eli the
coffee guy. ITM 20 code at
checkout.
John C Dvorak: Sir Salah Hauser
in Melbourne, Florida is up on
the list. And he says and he
came up with 200 even. And he
says all i want for Christmas is
no exit strategy. Sorry gents.
Love you guys mean it's or Salah
hunter of the 321 I think you
should do the next one. It's
your ad. Linda Lubetkin. In
fact, in Lakewood, Colorado jobs
karma for a remarkable resume
that hits people in the mouth.
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for John.
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Here it is. Sir Berzerker. We
have not heard from since
January of 2021. But he comes in
with an Associate Executive
Producer ship at $200. His note
is as follows. Ditch the jeering
tone Adam, get back to analysis
Adam show has been weak since
you got sucked into the
Fredericksburg ladies chap no
one cares about I can't
recommend this show to anyone
due to the amount of whining and
lack of insight, sir Berzerker.
John C Dvorak: But he told you
Adam Curry: this, this actually
hurt my feelings. It did. Good.
Because I
John C Dvorak: don't understand
why a $200 donation could have
been higher. No,
Adam Curry: I was like ditch the
jeering tone. What is that? What
is jeering tone? I don't
understand. He wants me to
correct something but he's not
helping me with any instrumental
you
John C Dvorak: have to actually
have a specific if you're gonna
do that, because I don't know
what he's talking about.
Adam Curry: No. And he's like,
since you got sucked into the
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about the ladies club or your DS
talking about you're talking
about the models or these moms
for liberties
Adam Curry: for liberty, which I
think is boots on the ground. I
don't understand now that he
can't recommend the show to
anyone due to the amount of
whining what whining and lack of
insight. I mean, that's just
what I don't know but it hurt my
feelings.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well, I
mean, I I feel that I like I
condemned this note
Adam Curry: we've we've been
kind of the same for 16 years.
Yeah, yes we fluctuate we
there's ups and downs with
everything but I just I just
don't understand it. Understand
it.
John C Dvorak: And here we go
again, Indy, no agenda motive in
Greenwood, Indiana. $200. No
jingles, no karma. Luckily,
switcheroo raffle. How many
raffles do they do donation from
the river for my call. Mike
Paul. You know there's a note
missing There's something
something we're doing with one
of our old donors. Producers. My
crotch is the I guess he's do
some PhD but he sent some notes
and it was confusing to Jay. And
she said, there's this guy who
keeps sending notes and about I
don't I have no record of his
notes is because it comes into
some other name. I'm guessing
she says Michael, I guess a
Michael crotch a crotch. I said,
You mean my cry my crotch? Yeah,
we didn't get it. And then she
cracks up. And she can't talk to
me for about an hour. Really?
Wow. Because it's so funny. It's
one of those jokes. You know, my
crotch? Yeah, my mic. You gotta
you got one.
Adam Curry: You got you got a
good job. Seymour
John C Dvorak: butts you can
you'll get the same approach
work on Mandroid work. All
right, that would be our last
Associate Executive
Adam Curry: now. And other
trolls are really hurting my
feelings. Like you were more
funny when you were stoned.
John C Dvorak: That's not true.
I'm a Mimi, who what used to
produce comedy knows that I
Adam Curry: thank you. Yes,
she's
John C Dvorak: an actual expert
Adam Curry: that Wow. Now Now I
feel much better all of a
sudden. Wow, that's great. He's
John C Dvorak: the expert. Not
some blame. Oh, that's in the
chat room. Troll. Troll. Troll.
Lame o troll.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to our executive and Associate
Executive producers we really
appreciate especially the indie,
raffle winners, who also all got
to take home a prize in addition
to the to their executive or
Associate Executive Producer
ship and he had like a no agenda
license plate. There was a
signed copy of too many eggs,
the book too many eggs.com. I'm
just saying I mean this this was
a great way to do it. And all
consolidated we thank you so
much, Mark and Maria for sending
that all through. And of course,
we always want to thank people
come in under $50 For reasons of
anonymity. And if you're on a
sustaining donation, thank you.
If not, please consider one at
DeVore act.org/na or no agenda.
donations.com. John is going to
take us through the 50s right
now. We'd like to thank them as
well. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Starting with
Monica, assignee for Gursky,
Sandy for Gursky in Rego Park,
New York 155 33 jobs karma for
her after the we get to the end,
sir Fetta. Net have a cheesy
name and Thomas Berg, Ontario
140 98 Jeffrey bents in Denver,
Pennsylvania 123 21 Second of
nine to knighthood, Mark
Adam Curry: Baylor Veldt
John C Dvorak: Baylor Velda K by
Livia by live out in Haddam,
Connecticut 100. And he's got
something to say. He says dunk,
Connecticut. He must be a
Dutchman. And Chris kharsia
wants to get in Boise Idaho, a
100. And this is a note you
probably should read because I
think as you becoming a night
well note he says Jenny
Adam Curry: Jensen is my keepers
name and her birthday is
December 14 Our ie of the
Treasure Valley not enough room
to complete common via Pay Pal.
We've been donating 3333 per
month since September 20. Border
for the roundtable. April
skivers April skivers with
powdered sugar and lingonberry
jam, I know the lingonberry jam.
So that was who we had earlier.
And so I guess they completed
everything. So she's going to be
a dame now. So this is good
news. I'm going to end I have
the lingonberry for you,
John C Dvorak: Eric, in Casper,
Wyoming. Oh, that's the other
thing I wanted to mention. When
I did the thing about process.
Somebody sent a note that went
to Jay's spam box saying they
didn't want to be mentioned. I
don't know if it's on this list
or not. I don't think so. Maybe
the last show. I didn't want to
be mentioned on the on the I was
a donor I didn't want to be
mentioned I want to be
anonymous. So I did went to the
spam box. And then the kicker is
they donated $50 If they had
donated 4999 They would
automatically automatically be
anonymized us right. Okay,
anyway, just just mentioned that
Eric in Casper, Wyoming came
with 100 bucks. He needs a D
douching. D deuced. Patricia
Lewis and Merced California, got
a birthday call out for her
grandson, and he needs a de
douche. Van De deuced. There we
get to Kevin McLaughlin in
Concord, North Carolina. He's
the Archduke Aluna lover of
American moves. 808 And he says
boobs they see all they know all
right. The Windy Brannon in
Saginaw, Michigan 75. TJ of the
side I 75 And there's a birthday
call out coming up. Kevin
McLaughlin is back with 606 with
the comment. Boobs are like a
fine wine they get better with
age. Serve as bash that's
interesting, sir BNA in
Nashville, Tennessee 5993
Christopher Dexter and 5678
Scott mingle mingle in Exton,
Pennsylvania. 55 Michael Jarrett
in mutt Ville, Connecticut, to
do 52 And he's a de douching. De
deuced. If Joe Biden which we
don't do, Eric Hof in Edmonton,
Alberta 51 Edward Bolla in
Dublin, Ireland 5049 And as a
birthday call out, sir tech
wizard in Blacksburg, Virginia.
5033 is another birthday coming
up. And now we go to the 50s
name and location John spade and
Edmond Oklahoma, Cory Cunningham
in Warrenton, Virginia. Tim
Delvecchio and blend in
Pennsylvania, Andrew Grasso and
Mineola New York Gary Mau in
Woodland Hills California
Stephen in in Bucks elder South
Dakota, Paul best in Horsham
West Sussex, UK use karma for
douchebags Brennan's of y in
Port orchard, Washington, Jared
Jared, you're in Nashville
Tennessee. Real deals now in San
Antonio, Texas. Dame Patricia
Worthington in Miami, Florida. I
think Miami Beach even Sarah
whip in Atlanta, Georgia, and
she has
Adam Curry: a mega douche for
Brian Lee who introduced her to
no agenda but has not been
donating so douchebag
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin deals
in $100 Ville, North Carolina
Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
Texas. Diane Shawanda Beck in
johnsburg, Illinois, Sara Landis
in drum right, Oklahoma and last
on least last on the list. Is
Baron Allen been in Beaverton
Oregon want to thank these folks
for making this show? By the
way, Sarah's got a birthday
caller we got you covered. Yes,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it's
it's a birthday call out for her
Oh, and a D douching. Yeah, for
husband Judd and a D douching.
And she wanted to go
John C Dvorak: so these are the
folks who helped make show 1616
Even though I don't see any 1616
donations, a possibility and a
reality. Thank you all. Yes. And
Adam Curry: again, we appreciate
everyone who came in under that.
And the sustaining donations are
definitely something you want to
check out please do that
for.org/and A reminder that
these credits for executive and
Associate Executive Producer are
completely valid legal and
anywhere credits are recognized
you can use it LinkedIn on your
resume or go to imdb.com If you
don't already have one because
you're already a top produced
like some of the Hollywood
people who are on there. Now if
not, you could open one up and
you can say to everybody I'm a
proud executive or Associate
Executive Producer of the best
podcast in the universe. Episode
1616
Unknown: Bar formula is this. We
go out for yet people in the
mouth
shut us
Adam Curry: we love celebrating
birthdays with our producers out
there and get mo nation gris
Garcia Garcia wishes his
keyboard Jenny Jensen, a very
happy one celebrating today
Edward Faber also celebrating
today sir tech wizard turns 33
Tomorrow, Patricia Lewis wishes
her grandson Jackson. A very
happy one he'll be turning 15 on
the 18th Sarah Landis wishing
her amazing husband just
Atlanta's Happy Birthday. He's
turning 48 Today I guess TJ of
the side I says Happy Birthday
Sir off gar and Thomas pears
wishes his little bro Henry a
happy birthday. We say happy
birthday from everybody here the
best podcast in the universe.
Man it's short today. We only
have one Damon one night. So
here is the short blade but you
can do you have your blade?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, got it
right here. Ready?
Adam Curry: That's a pretty one.
Up on the podium Jenny Jensen
and Rick Shuguang Both of us for
the best podcast and universe
$1,000 Or more and some of you
took a long time but we are very
proud to pronounce the Kate the
as Dame ie of the Treasure
Valley and Sir Rick shut duar
hope I pronounced that right for
you. We've got hookers and blow
rent boys and Chardonnay, able
skivers with powdered sugar and
lingonberry jam. We got diet
soda and video games. We got
harlots and hell pepperoni rolls
and pale ales, Master Jolie and
margaritas, Romanesque and Rosae
Vaca, Manila bong hits and
Bremond sparkling side
wrestlers, ginger ale and
Jerboas and of course, mutton
and Mead Now you heard the
process go now to no agenda
rings.com That's where you can
see these anybody can go there
by the way, take a look at these
beautiful rings for knights and
for dame's you can size your
finger there's a little guide
there that shows you how to do
it. And then you will send us
the address and the name that it
has to go to. It's all on the
form that you can fill out at no
agenda rings.com that comes with
some wax to seal your important
correspondence with because they
are Signet rings. When you hit
someone in the mouth, you know
it leaves a lasting impression
and of course, a certificate of
authenticity and thank you again
and welcome to the roundtable
our brand new night and day no
one
yes, the no agenda meetups are
the companion to the show. If
you've never been to one you're
really missing out. I have a
quick meet up report from beach
girl who had not no audio
reports today. It was at the
Higginbotham Connecticut truck
bar ugly sweater party meet up
report. Send us a great picture.
Everyone had an ugly Christmas
sweater on. And she says it was
fantastic. We had 17 attendees
including some new faces. It was
a beautiful December day. 50 or
so degrees in Connecticut felt
more like fall. Most of us were
festive or an ugly Christmas
sweater. The pizza provided by
sea. CT Ken thank you so much he
can drinks and conversation
we're all great. No agenda
producers are the best. It was
great to be around 17 like
minded people and we could all
be ourselves with ugly sweaters.
Can't wait for the next meetup.
Adam and John Merry Christmas.
Thank you for your courage. Hope
you enjoy the picture from the
meetup enjoyed it very much
beach girl thank you so much.
Today there is a meetup taking
place at the Mile High meetup
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado we'll be kicking off at
630 and on Saturday it's
important you hear this if
you're in Texas, it's the first
northwest Houston meat shoot.
That's always fun man. Go shoot
some guns with a whole bunch of
people. When you when you get no
agenda people no agenda
producers at a at a meat shoot.
They bring crazy guns and
they'll let you shoot them to
black powder guns, machine guns,
all kinds of nutty firearms. So
if you're into that or if you've
never, never shot a gun in your
life, they will safely help you
do that. And this is the Saddle
River Range at noon and Conroe
Texas and Sir Economic Hitman is
organizing that in New
Hampshire. You can meet at 1230
on Saturday at the community
oven in Epping, New Hampshire
for the meetup on Saturday, the
ITM Richmond meetup at 1230 at
glass Chester Brewing Company in
Gloucester, Virginia. Fort Worth
has the freeze peach meet up at
one o'clock at Flipz Patio Grill
that's in Fort Worth, Texas. The
shrunken Amiga support group
Cincinnati meets at two o'clock
a task group corium on Saturday
in Cincinnati, Ohio. Man there's
a lot here, the overturning
tables and chasing out the money
changes Christmas party. It
won't be at the local tap and
Lansdale, Pennsylvania on
Saturday 233 the flight of the
no agenda is that's in Los
Angeles number 47 Leo brava
hosts out at the proud bird 333
Pacific Time, Central Ohio
meeting at 333 A Dempsey's in
Columbus on Saturday the THC
meetup at Camden beer hall
London London Hello London four
o'clock GMT time Camden beer
hall London UK make sure you go
check out Greg is organizing
that on Saturday and finally the
next show day is Sunday we have
two meetups taking place them
the SX M salt and soda water
meet up 330 at Fat Tony
Smokehouse in St. St. Maarten
St. Martin Sint Maarten St.
Martin? The island I guess. And
also on Sunday, the final one
long views lively laugh loaded
mid month monthly meet up 333 At
rotos pizzeria Longview, Texas
go Texas. Three meetups coming
up in the next couple of days.
There's a lot more to see and a
lot more to experience at no
agenda. meetups.com you can find
meetups anywhere in the world
almost. They're taking place all
the time. If you miss one, don't
worry. There's always another
one coming up. You heard it like
minded people. You can wear your
ugly sweater you can hang out
with people, no condemnation.
You will be surprised at the
cool people you meet and you're
not the only crazy one. No
agenda enough.com If you can't
find one near you start one
yourself. It's very easy and
always a party
Unknown: With the Dyson days,
you won't be triggered. You will
be buddy feels the same
Adam Curry: is like a pot. Like
a party, like a party like a
party, you got to meet ISOs you
got ISOs?
John C Dvorak: I do, but I want
to read something first. Okay.
So, Patricia Lewis wrote in card
and she says, I just want to
mention this, I think we deduced
her grandson, J. Jackson, she
says sent you comment on my
lovely handwriting each time I
send a donation. You can
attribute to find penmanship to
the tutelage of the Sisters of
Mercy. Of to Lemoore Ireland.
Oh, they
Adam Curry: wrapped her knuckles
with a ruler. That's
John C Dvorak: what I'm thinking
she has the almost exact same
handwriting as Tina, but I think
that I don't want to insult
Patricia. But I think Tina is is
actually even more fine. And now
we need to know how Tina learned
to write like that. Was she in a
Catholic school where they beat
her?
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
But she is a perfectionist. And
she always wants to be very good
at school for a whole bunch of
reasons. Oh, well, she's one of
those she would do her homework
and but that that handwriting, I
know. I'm like, Hey, babe, can
you write out that check for the
for the pool guy. It's like, why
can't you write us if Come on?
Are you kidding me? Like you're
given the guy a piece of art.
And he's like, Oh, I don't even
want to cash this check. It's so
beautiful. That's how beautiful
it is. I will ask her though. I
think
John C Dvorak: she just I will
put a I will ask for both
ladies. Yes. Right. I'm gonna
give him something to write out.
I'm gonna write out my put in a
newsletter and we can do a test.
Oh, it's a write off. Right off
the shoulder.
Adam Curry: Andrew writing
showdown. Okay, yeah, she'll be
happy to send that to you. I
will. I will remind the whatever
she needs to do you let me know.
We'll send it off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
will happen tomorrow, but it
will help out please.
Adam Curry: You got me all
excited. All right. What are
your ISOs I have to Okay.
John C Dvorak: Let's see. What
are they? Let's start with
congrats. Congratulations. Oh,
Adam Curry: nice. I like it. I
like it. I like it. It's,
John C Dvorak: it's to the
point. It's crisp, crisp and
think about that.
Adam Curry: And I want you to
think about that. Yeah, yes.
Okay. Let me see what I have.
Check your barn door that one I
have you need to get out more.
John C Dvorak: You send that one
to me.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. diddly doo.
model and then this has been a
lot of fun that we should stay
in touch.
Unknown: Kind of like that one.
Adam Curry: Only like Well,
John C Dvorak: to be honest
about it. The last one I do like
it too but it's a little long.
Especially when you have it
sitting just because congrats
but think about that. He might
tour short and sweet.
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an
executive decision.
Congratulations. Yeah, that's
cute. I like congratulation we
just keep it a congratulate
that's very for Google.
Unknown: It's time
Adam Curry: JC once again I'm
Mimi works very hard all week
when she's not working at the
candle. When she's not working
with J at the publishing
company. She is out there. Just
digging around for good news.
She has so much that John has
Dell used under good news what
is your this
John C Dvorak: one I cut down
because they're all local from
local stations from Utah too
long and they run too long. They
run two and a half three minutes
sometimes for two I cut this one
down it was a tube something
this guy could have done if some
58 seconds but this is about and
I believe local news channels
all have these stories. This is
a 16 year old. Fit 16 Amazing of
fit 16 year old who's pumping
iron and has a heart just stops
Unknown: a cash counting team is
recovering at Primary Children's
Hospital after his heart stopped
while lifting weights at
school. Witnesses say a trainer
at that school jumped into
action there saved his life new
special Shara Park joins us live
from the hospital tonight.
Shara. How's Dean Phillips doing
this evening.
Mike and dini. As you can
imagine, it has been a very
difficult and emotional 24 hours
for 16 year old Dean Phillips,
with permission from the family
close family friend tells us
that he was in and out of
sedation and intubation while he
was in ICU and every try every
time they tried to bring him out
of that He was agitated and
incoherent. But then today, a
major step in his recovery, they
were able to bring him out of
sedation, and he was able to
talk with his parents and start
asking them questions about what
happened. Now Dean's heart
stopped yesterday afternoon
while lifting weights with his
friends at Skyview High School
in Smithfield, grateful
to have quick access to the
right people and the right
resources. Sure, thanks.
Adam Curry: That's not good
news. That kid has an evacs
injury or something. This is not
good news to
John C Dvorak: x injury to
houses that happened to make an
assumption like that.
Unknown: A good news story from
JC de had the vibes for you and
me and we all feel better now
he's done his bit. To the back
to reality. That's turning to
shit.
Adam Curry: That's good news. At
the end of every single no
agenda show. We are long today,
everybody, but we gave you a lot
of deconstruction. I hope you
enjoyed it. Because one day,
it's all going to end and you'll
have you'll be stuck with one
news AI.
John C Dvorak: Channel one,
Adam Curry: that's Channel One
News, AI. That's all you're
gonna have. So get ready for
those days just says come in.
That's Oh, it's definitely
coming. But you know, we could
just sit at home collect checks,
and the AI just looks at every
story and goes, Oh, I know how
to do this. They would be very
funny. But we'll start with you.
Coming up next on no agenda
stream.com We have mere mortals
which is our buddy Kyron from
Down Under. It's a book review.
How would aliens wage war chyron
I love you chyron. In your show
makes his Fletcher Steve Jones
and Matty J. And I am coming to
you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country and I say in the
morning to you. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're
going to have some rain this
weekend. Yay for us. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We've gotten rain
and it's cold yay for us here.
Remember us the divorce
act.org/na Looking forward to
seeing you all on Sunday till
then adios Mufasa Hui noise Hey
John C Dvorak: once it was
reluctantly around it was hard
to get it aroused and it is hard
to get an arrest but we got
everywhere else around the
country is doing this together
dress just keep it up get it
wrapped together it's going to
be engendered now is to get into
a house I'll give you the gist
of it quick get some white stuff
somebody helped me out here all
cash baby stay calm the guys
because they wouldn't even say
going even
Unknown: bigger apps scorpion is
made in total. They were asked
to change it and he wouldn't do
that.
John C Dvorak: This is a crisis.
This is all amateur hour. This
is all stuff done in the
controller or done by somebody
who's not a good guy and done on
purpose. As
Unknown: stupid have we been?
Of course people got all kinds
of fun clips. How stupid have we
been people making songs from
that
if you have social media that is
dominated by algorithms that
pull people down these rabbit
holes rabbit holes, rabbit
holes, rabbit holes, these
algorithms they are the digital
equivalent of AR fifteens they
ought to be banned but when
these when people are pulled
down these rabbit holes, rabbit
holes, you know what's at the
bottom of the rabbit hole rabbit
quiet to ask what's up
John C Dvorak: artificial
insanity
Unknown: I just signed another
$200 million drawdown to the
Department of Defense for
Ukraine. Thank you. Thank you
We're gonna bring in Isabella
surgical to Melbourne where
researchers they may have found
a possible cure for COVID 19.
Using a treatment that is cheap
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so what is it? Well, it's a
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Know what this is. This is
ivermectin for humans to win a
Nobel Prizes anti feral. See
this Fauci see this Bill Gates.
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bastard murderers in him with a
bio weapons monster. You want to
suppress me want to kill the son
of a bitch, you goddamn demon.
He's like, I'm easy to kill. And
I sure wish you'd wake up
in a petri dish. This can kill
two cells and cause 19 Joe
Rogan kicks your murder and as
to you'd love to bury him to
your little monster magnet. He's
in this National Geographic
piece about oh, I don't usually
deal with my enemies right away.
I get them later. You creep up
on with a poison injections,
dressed up in a lab coat little
Josef Mengele, Nuremberg Code
violating monster get damn
monster
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