Cover for No Agenda Show 1616: Buying Quiet
December 14th, 2023 • 3h 26m

1616: Buying Quiet

Transcript

The transcripts of No Agenda are automatically generated and therefore, not fully accurate. Discretion is advised.

Click the text to start playing from that position in the show. Click the timestamp to copy a direct link to that position to your clipboard in order to propagate the formula.

0:00
Adam Curry: China because China China China, Adam curry, John C.
0:04
Devora. December 14 2023. This is your award winning your
0:08
nation media assassination episode 1616. This
0:11
Unknown: is no agenda,
0:13
Adam Curry: monitoring the informed memories and
0:16
broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here
0:19
in FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
0:23
John C Dvorak: curry in from Northern Silicon Valley where
0:25
I've come to the conclusion that Drew Barrymore is an annoying
0:29
phony. I'm John C. Dvorak,
0:32
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Of all the people, I would think you talk
0:38
about Drew Barrymore would be low, close to the bottom of the
0:41
list. What happened? How did you how did you even come on? I
0:46
mean, her show was on during the day. It's
0:48
John C Dvorak: also on locally, it's, it's on during the day,
0:51
but it's also on 1130 at night. Oh, really? Yeah. They should
0:56
late night for some reason.
0:58
Adam Curry: That's, I mean, does anyone watch regular broadcast
1:00
TV anymore?
1:02
John C Dvorak: I do. Where do you think I get these clips? I
1:05
mean,
1:07
Adam Curry: I mean, normal people. I mean, the normal
1:09
people still watch this. And everyone like just Netflix in
1:13
streaming of numbers. There's numbers. There's numbers. Yeah,
1:16
they got numbers, but it's not like old numbers, not like
1:18
number go
1:18
John C Dvorak: old numbers. Those were numbers, numbers.
1:21
That's when we were working in television. 100 million people
1:24
would watch one show. We got Limo
1:26
Adam Curry: Service and our money in a brown paper bag. And
1:29
we're those days. Yeah.
1:30
John C Dvorak: Those days are over.
1:33
Adam Curry: And that was cable. Those days are long gone. Long
1:38
gone. Oh, man. There's so much going on. There's a lot of fun
1:42
things to talk about. There is really Yes. I'm excited. Yes,
1:47
yes, it is. This what? Well, there's there's the obvious
1:55
marketing that happens every it happens once a year. Once a
1:59
year, we got to go and we've got to go promote the military
2:04
industrial complex. Once a year. What not the militant? No, for
2:08
the for the NDA. You know, this is the $800
2:14
John C Dvorak: American public? Yeah. $808
2:18
Adam Curry: million. Yeah. So of course, you're not gonna hear
2:22
what's really in the bill. I have started to read it. It's
2:25
it's another doozy. Matt gates, though, I'll give it to him. At
2:29
least he stood up. And he said, No, no, no. There's a lot of
2:33
good in here. But there's a lot of there's some things we have
2:35
to take out.
2:36
Unknown: I regret that I rise in opposition to this NDA, because
2:40
there is a great deal of good in it. But only in Washington, must
2:44
we bring a bill to the floor so that we are able to militarily
2:48
confront China, while at the same time embracing the policies
2:53
that make the United States more like China. There is no desire
3:00
on the part of our great armed services chairman and even the
3:02
Democrats we worked with to have an extension of spying
3:06
authorities put in this bill, when we have already seen those
3:10
authorities just totally abused 278,000 violations of the
3:16
existing law, as the FBI has queried information regarding
3:21
Americans. When the Obama appointed Inspector General was
3:26
reviewing whether or not the administration was complying
3:29
with existing law. They found out we were breaking the law 38
3:33
times an hour to extend to the authorities for good word being
3:38
violated so that people, the FBI could do queries on their
3:42
neighbors, their co workers, their ex lovers that's not
3:46
belong in the National Defense Authorization Act.
3:49
Adam Curry: Oh, Mr. Gates, you're on the naughty list? No,
3:51
no, no, no.
3:52
John C Dvorak: Just stop for a second and ask yourself, if you
3:56
have access to these, these systems, and you knew there was
4:01
no repercussions for abusing them, but in other words, going
4:04
and looking up your neighbors or looking after your ex
4:07
girlfriends? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, if there's no consequences,
4:15
no, there, there, it appears there's none whatsoever. Yeah,
4:21
that's what you're going to do. You're going to look up your
4:23
pals and everybody in between. Sure. So
4:26
Adam Curry: the way this works, and we've done this for a number
4:29
of years, whenever so Matt Gaetz is on the wrong side of history
4:33
here, obviously. I mean, he shut up Matt gates, I didn't get that
4:37
off C span. You didn't see that one anywhere. Of course, we've
4:40
been tracking the section 702 FISA Bri renewal which is just
4:46
barely talked about now. It shouldn't be renewed, but it
4:49
will be there will be and what we need to do, the way we run it
4:52
in America is we have to ratchet up the fear. Now he had the
4:57
right start. He said You know, well of course we want to be
5:00
Good China because China China, China, you know, we all you need
5:03
to do is you need to have oh, have the alien guy go on Tucker
5:08
Carlson because oh, we need more space stuff for the military.
5:11
It's all in there growing
5:12
Unknown: tensions between the US and China now extending to
5:15
hundreds of miles above the Earth.
5:18
John C Dvorak: We know when we're threatened, we need to be
5:20
able to counter the threat
5:21
Unknown: to get an inside look at some of the latest American
5:24
technology to counter the Chinese threat. We went to
5:27
United Launch alliances factory in Alabama, working on defenses
5:31
against things like Chinese satellites that can use robotic
5:34
arms to drag other satellites. Meanings China could disable
5:39
critical American communication knights
5:42
were actually
5:43
able to grapple grab a hold of one of their defunct GPS or beta
5:47
satellites. What
5:48
is the concern about them having that kind of capability in
5:51
space,
5:51
anything that can interact with the spacecraft for servicing is
5:57
inherently capable of interacting with a spacecraft to
6:00
harm it, or to gather intelligence from it.
6:02
And fears tonight that China is moving faster than the US in
6:06
this new space race. But the skies just above us just not
6:11
only using satellites, but spies and hypersonic missiles. And
6:16
multiple US military officials tell us perhaps most concerning
6:20
multiple officials China launched a hypersonic missile
6:23
capable of orbiting the globe over and over then suddenly
6:27
dropping to Earth before most missile defenses are spawned by
6:31
Russia
6:31
had that we continue to look at that very closely. Yeah,
6:35
John C Dvorak: let's go back we have to look at a lot of this
6:37
stuff logically. Yes. So it's gonna go into orbit and and
6:43
orbit over and
6:44
Adam Curry: over and over. Yeah, it's nuclear. Of course. It just
6:46
goes forever. We have a big solar panel on
6:49
John C Dvorak: it. So it goes around and around and then it
6:52
drops down. We can't see it. We don't know that.
6:56
Adam Curry: No, not without $886 billion of Boeing all we need we
7:00
need modeling box most
7:02
Unknown: concerning. China launched a hypersonic missile
7:05
capable of orbiting the globe over and over, then suddenly
7:09
dropping to Earth before most missile defense systems can
7:12
respond most.
7:13
We continue to look at that very closely. But that's a capability
7:15
they just recently demonstrated just
7:17
recently examples of fence lasers, lasers outmaneuver the
7:22
speed of light laser, no lasers.
7:25
Adam Curry: Now, I'm going to play play one wow.
7:30
John C Dvorak: Got it cost a big dough.
7:32
Adam Curry: I want to play one more here. Because we have to
7:36
remember, we all got to be your fearful fearful of China.
7:40
Unknown: I'm staying on the topic of China. A scary new
7:42
report from The Washington Post was
7:44
Adam Curry: scary. Ha ha scary new report from the WaPo.
7:48
Reading how
7:48
Unknown: China's military is likely behind a number of
7:51
hackers who have gained computer access to the systems of about
7:55
two dozen key American infrastructure facilities around
7:57
the nation. Some of the apparently hacked sites include
8:01
a water utility in Hawaii on the West Coast oh no oil and gas
8:06
pipeline report notes that hackers also tried to gain
8:09
access to the Texas power grid Now thankfully, power grid X is
8:16
raising an alarm pack to China could use hackers to bring down
8:19
key services in America from power plants pipelines and at
8:22
the safety of your watering broken a dying is now is former
8:25
director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security
8:27
traps. Chris Krebs. Welcome back. am I overstating this? No,
8:33
I
8:33
read the story.
8:35
It seems pretty scary. Scary.
8:37
Adam Curry: Pretty scary. This guy is what kind of push you are
8:39
you. So pretty scary. It
8:41
Unknown: seemed pretty scary. Every
8:43
Brian you're not alone, is I talked to national security
8:46
officials. They're extremely concerned about the access that
8:50
Chinese cyber actors were able to get in not just strategic
8:53
targets, but more broadly, and seemingly random or ad hoc
8:58
infrastructures across the country. And they've come to the
9:02
simple conclusion that this is not just about disruption and
9:05
destruction for military purposes, but for also just
9:09
broader societal panic and chaos and escalation of hostility. And
9:14
that's
9:14
John C Dvorak: isn't that what these guys are doing now? This
9:16
Adam Curry: is what sold it for me.
9:18
John C Dvorak: This panic and can't cry now. This news worked
9:21
for the Chinese. No,
9:22
Adam Curry: no. This is where we bring in now. We couldn't say
9:26
Chinese because Hollywood's not allowed to do that anymore. We
9:29
had to say Korea was unclear if was North Korea or South Korea,
9:33
South Korea and Iran right on time right on target. Enter the
9:37
Obama has
9:39
Unknown: something wrong with a TV that's all messed up. It
9:43
mean, it
9:45
could be over in a couple of hours.
9:49
I'm sure this will turn out to be a big nothing. We'll look
9:54
back on this one day and laugh I guarantee you
9:57
think that ship is heading towards us. And
10:01
what would it what does that mean? We shouldn't speculate.
10:05
You can pick up on what's going on. And not panic over nothing.
10:11
I don't think this is nothing. We're in this together and
10:17
things get back.
10:19
There is no going back to
10:26
Adam Curry: the finish we're gonna be okay. Right? Yeah. And
10:37
that's my take on the entire reason for connecting the Obamas
10:42
name to leaving the world behind and otherwise, okay, movie
10:47
mediocre at best. What made it creepy was the whole the Obamas
10:51
produced it. And the whole point because they literally talk
10:54
about chaos and fear. That is that's part of the strategy at
10:59
the end of the movie. Spoiler alert. Sorry. This is all to get
11:04
the to get people focused on Oh, yes, we need oh, we need more
11:07
military. It's okay. We need that $900 billion dollars to go
11:12
to Raytheon and Boeing. And what are they like four companies
11:15
now?
11:16
John C Dvorak: Lockheed,
11:17
Adam Curry: Lockheed. That's that's what this is all about
11:20
Obama, this movie was already purchased. By the time they got
11:24
cut. They were added on to the bill. They didn't produce
11:28
anything. And all they you know, okay, so a little bit of racism
11:32
stuff. And then whatever they added
11:33
John C Dvorak: to racism, and they didn't add shit,
11:36
Adam Curry: John? No, I have the whole rundown here. They were
11:40
brought in after the movie was cast after it was written. It
11:44
was good to go. They're only attached because they have a $65
11:48
million deal. And they have to put gotta put their name on
11:52
something and this legitimizes the whole fear and chaos. Did
11:56
you see the movie by any chance? Did you see the whole thing?
11:58
John C Dvorak: I did you read the newsletter? Well, I, you
12:01
know,
12:01
Adam Curry: from the newsletter didn't seem to me like you would
12:03
read the whole thing, because you put enps in there, which
12:06
were explicitly not a part of this movie. So did you watch it?
12:11
John C Dvorak: I watched probably about a quarter of it.
12:14
It's very hard to watch. I
12:15
Adam Curry: watched the whole thing.
12:17
John C Dvorak: It's slow move. Why you must have been bored
12:19
stiff? No,
12:21
Adam Curry: I reserved for the show.
12:23
John C Dvorak: It's slow moving. It's slow moving. The only thing
12:29
I thought was funny was the Tesla have seen I think that was
12:32
kind of funny. But
12:34
Adam Curry: could it be any more coincidental, we get the Tesla
12:38
seen. And today, let's start
12:41
Unknown: with the bad news. This recall affects almost all Tesla
12:44
vehicles sold in the United States. This comes after a two
12:47
year investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety
12:50
Administration. They found that the company's autopilot mode can
12:54
provide inadequate driver engagement that can lead to
12:56
misuse of the system. The investigation also found that
12:59
using autopilot mode incorrectly or failing to recognize that it
13:03
is on can lead to a higher risk of accident now now. Okay, we
13:06
Adam Curry: don't have to hear the whole report. But the
13:08
coincidence of this happening right now. That was that was
13:13
probably the highlight of the movie. I thought that was
13:15
hilarious.
13:16
John C Dvorak: I well would. But it was a plot hole because I
13:20
just wanted any one of many. Because I immediately asked the
13:24
question is where are these Tesla's coming from? And why are
13:28
they all on the same road? And they're smashing into each
13:30
other? I mean, who set them on this path? There was never this
13:34
a question. It was never answered, or ash actually cyber
13:37
Adam Curry: hack. It was cyber and if you watch the movie, what
13:41
you saw was a close up that showed the tags on all these
13:45
cars, they had been driven right off that auto.
13:49
John C Dvorak: She looks at the tag and that's when she realizes
13:52
that Tesla's are coming Yes. The Tesla saw that she she yells at
13:57
her husband to get out of the way because it's going to ram it
14:00
into their SUV that sitting there and so then they dodge a
14:03
bunch of Tesla's coming down the road but that doesn't tell me
14:07
that it was anyone who's give me the Tesla factories are not in
14:11
where they are which is in the East Coast. And it couldn't
14:14
there's no dealership with 1000s of Tesla's and I know they're
14:18
all white we
14:19
Adam Curry: can both agree that it's full of holes airplanes
14:23
don't come crashing out of the sky because because of because
14:28
of an airplanes are crashing out of the sky. But the drone
14:33
dropping leaflets has no problem. You know so what was
14:36
it? You what you hacked the system on the plane, every
14:39
single one. I mean, all of it was ridiculous. They have power
14:42
for days. Here they have power. They have power for days. Now
14:47
this whole the whole thing was full of technical holes. I will
14:51
say the end. So the little girl finds a safe room in the
14:56
neighbor's, like a bunker in the neighbors house and they pop on
15:01
a ham radio kit. And it's actually pretty accurate tune to
15:05
a frequency that is our TTY. It has, you know, our TTY coming in
15:11
that. Someone who was a ham operator did that part I was
15:14
that was one like, Okay, that was good. It would have been in
15:17
the book that might have been everything else was just Yeah,
15:22
maybe. Okay. And there's a little bit of racial stuff in
15:26
there which gets highlighted. But the main thing is they
15:29
didn't call out China because they can't because Netflix can't
15:33
and Hollywood can't call out China in their movies. So they
15:37
call it curry.
15:39
John C Dvorak: You can if you don't want to get distribution
15:42
whatsoever,
15:42
Adam Curry: yes, if you don't want to go anywhere, but I
15:45
thought the timing of the release with all these other
15:47
stories, literally with the plot of the movie, or the payoff is
15:53
oh, this is the big strategy of our adversaries is first you cut
15:58
off communications then you confuse us then you've got chaos
16:01
and fear and then we all turn on each other except at the end of
16:05
course, the white Karen mom holds hands with the with the
16:09
black teenage girl. And then it's all great. We're all going
16:13
to survive I guess we'll make it together. And please pass that
16:18
bill. That was the whole point of it in my mind. Jack people up
16:26
John C Dvorak: everything's did Jack people up.
16:28
Adam Curry: Yeah, but this was special.
16:32
John C Dvorak: This was especially hard to watch. Well,
16:36
I
16:36
Adam Curry: had no problem watching the whole thing. Well,
16:38
I'm
16:38
John C Dvorak: sorry. I don't know. Maybe when you get my age.
16:41
Here you will have you look at things like this and go I don't
16:45
have time for this.
16:48
Adam Curry: I woke up this morning at 330 and realized oh
16:52
crap, I'm 59 Where did it go? Are
16:55
John C Dvorak: you going to be 69? No.
16:57
Adam Curry: Where did it go? I'm like What am I doing? What am I
17:00
doing my life? I'm watching these movies.
17:06
John C Dvorak: Watching it through. I can see he's got I
17:10
can't get to sleep. Maybe this will help.
17:13
Adam Curry: People like Thanks, man. You spoil the movie for me.
17:16
No, please watch.
17:17
John C Dvorak: No, there's no way you can there's no set this
17:20
point there is no such thing as a spoiler in this movie. No,
17:24
there's not. Because there's no plot twist. There's nothing
17:27
you're looking at at all though. He's an actually an alien. There
17:31
was none of that. There was no plot twist whatsoever. You can't
17:36
spoil this
17:36
Adam Curry: movie. Oh, you just go. Now you spoil it that
17:39
there's no there's no plot this plot is actually
17:41
John C Dvorak: that is the spoiler. The spoiler is there's
17:44
no spoiler. Yeah. It's like Fight Club.
17:47
Adam Curry: But it was the I mean, the whole you know, cyber
17:50
attack radiation in cities. The one thing I learned from this is
17:54
don't live in a city. That's what I learned from the movie.
17:58
bad place to be. You
18:00
John C Dvorak: learn that before the movie. What do you think I'm
18:02
here in Fredericksburg.
18:03
Unknown: Now it's time both free? Yes. Experiment by JC
18:09
comparing stories from ABC, CBS.
18:13
Adam Curry: That's right, everybody in the headlines.
18:16
Johnson diboride has pulled him for us. And where
18:19
John C Dvorak: do I do? Actually,
18:20
Adam Curry: I know you do. I have
18:22
John C Dvorak: a couple of choices this week or this show.
18:25
And I picked this group this is a because it's got Richard
18:29
angle. Beautiful, beautiful. So this is about this is the same
18:37
exact story if you listened to the the two we're gonna play
18:40
first, which is NBC and ABC in either order to start with ABC
18:44
but these are the stories of of what's going on in Gaza.
18:48
Regarding the tunnels, they're gonna flood them and it's got
18:51
this exact same script quote from Biden cut exactly the same.
18:56
It's as though ABC and NBC are actually the same newsroom is
19:00
pathetic, to be honest about it. Then we go to CBS at the end,
19:04
where they actually introduced new information, which I thought
19:07
was cool, but let's start with ABC. Tonight,
19:09
Unknown: Israel flooding the vast labyrinth of tunnels under
19:12
Gaza where Hamas leaders are believed to be hiding according
19:15
to US officials. This image circulating online shows what
19:18
appear to be recently laid pipes running from the sea to the
19:22
shore. The IDF isn't commenting, but Israel's fighting to cripple
19:25
Hamas is underground tunnel network of concerns tonight
19:28
about the safety of the 135 remaining hostages, including
19:32
Americans who may remain in those tunnels.
19:35
There's assertions being made that there's quite sure there
19:40
are no hostages in any of these tunnels. But I don't know that
19:44
for a fact
19:45
and President Biden today without warning to Israel saying
19:48
they're starting to lose the world support because of their
19:51
quote, indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, speaking off camera to
19:55
fundraiser, Biden with some of his harshest criticism yet for
19:58
Prime Minister Netanyahu Calling is government, the most
20:01
conservative in Israel's history. Biden also suggesting
20:04
the most right wing Israeli leaders want, quote retribution,
20:08
not only against Hamas, but against all Palestinians saying
20:11
they don't want a two state solution. Biden's comments
20:14
exposing a growing divide between the two leaders. I mean,
20:17
we're all Benjamin Netanyahu saying today he and the
20:19
President disagree about who will govern Gaza after the war.
20:23
But Israel's first offensive rages on in Gaza. More than
20:26
18,000 Palestinians have been killed according to the Hamas
20:30
run health ministry
20:31
Adam Curry: now there's our there's our health ministry
20:33
again Yeah,
20:33
John C Dvorak: and verify but they won't say that. Everything
20:36
else he says unverified but there's no verification and by
20:40
the way, the most conservative ever that's that included when
20:43
they had that guy with the eyepatch.
20:47
Adam Curry: Moshe Moshe Moshe Dayan.
20:50
John C Dvorak: And yeah, that
20:51
Adam Curry: that now that was a guy. Yeah, it
20:52
John C Dvorak: was conservative.
20:54
Adam Curry: That was a look.
20:56
John C Dvorak: That was a look.
20:57
Adam Curry: I was a Look man, that iPad to do that. I was a
21:00
governor.
21:00
John C Dvorak: He was a tough son of a bitch. Yeah,
21:03
Adam Curry: he was he was okay. So
21:04
John C Dvorak: we're gonna go to Richard Engel, who's going to
21:06
basically give almost an identical report is kind of
21:09
scrambled a little bit I think there's also some sound effects.
21:12
And as dough Engel is anywhere but in some hotel
21:16
Adam Curry: ops as we know not to pops, pop tops Yes.
21:20
John C Dvorak: And so we're gonna get a little bit of that
21:22
and angles always more breathless. He's He's very good
21:25
at this. Here we go.
21:27
Unknown: He's realist, pushing ahead with its devastating
21:29
ground offensive in Gaza, fighting door to door to
21:32
overthrow Hamas. By send tonight a US official tells NBC News
21:37
Israel is pumping seawater to flood Hamas tunnels in limited
21:41
areas of Gaza, saying it's unclear if it will work. There
21:44
is
21:45
assertions being made that there's quite sure there are no
21:49
hostages in any of these tunnels. But I don't know. But I
21:52
don't know that for a fact.
21:54
Israel's military campaign is now sparking tensions with the
21:57
White House. President Biden speaking earlier at a fundraiser
22:00
today saying Israel is right to take on Hamas, and has most of
22:04
the world supporting them. But they're starting to lose support
22:07
by indiscriminate bombing in Gaza. And that Israeli Prime
22:11
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is government has to change. You
22:14
can't say there's no Palestinian state in the future. The
22:18
administration wants the more moderate Palestinian authority
22:21
to take over postwar Gaza. But does it Yeah, who is rejecting
22:24
that? Saying overnight, I will not allow the entry into Gaza of
22:28
those who educate for terrorism and support terrorism and
22:31
finance terrorism stung today, six a group said the
22:35
humanitarian situation in Gaza is in an apocalyptic freefall,
22:40
writing the war has killed more than 7500 children more than all
22:45
global conflicts last year combined.
22:48
Adam Curry: Oh, you forgot to say according to the Hamas run
22:52
health ministry,
22:53
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, he said it as though it was fact. Yeah.
22:56
Okay. I find that to be more
22:58
Adam Curry: than all children combined. Does that include
23:00
Africa somehow? I don't think so.
23:03
John C Dvorak: I don't know. It's a good it's a good bit.
23:06
Unknown: A good bit.
23:08
John C Dvorak: It's a good bit
23:09
Adam Curry: it's a bit Sure.
23:10
John C Dvorak: So now we have it is and so in that vein by the
23:13
way I do have some AMY GOODMAN clips on the same thing and she
23:15
takes a different perspective believe me. But so now we go to
23:21
CBS and so CBS really has some new information is same report
23:28
exact same report except there's new information. They add some
23:31
dimension to it. They pass off the the flooding the tunnel is
23:36
is kind of okay. They don't bring in that Joe Biden exact
23:40
same Joe Biden clip is I would say CBS, if we're going to
23:45
analyze the three networks has is doing the best of the three
23:48
doing the best job of the three.
23:54
Unknown: The Israeli military is consolidating control in the
23:57
north, demolishing a UN school allegedly used by Hamas in Beit
24:01
Hanoun Israeli soldiers cheered Israel's defense minister says
24:05
fighting may still last for months
24:08
Adam Curry: but you want what were the Israeli soldiers
24:10
cheering about? Like yeah, we got to school was that what was
24:13
that the point of that? is pretty sick.
24:20
John C Dvorak: I have another clip coming up later in the show
24:23
where somebody said a dog barking or something in the
24:26
background makes no sense whatsoever phone ring i Okay.
24:30
We'll play it later. In Beit Hanoun
24:32
Unknown: Israeli soldiers cheer. Defense Minister says fighting
24:37
may still last for months. But us pressure is rising for Israel
24:41
to end its offensive sooner. I'm looking at new pressure is also
24:45
rising against Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with
24:48
anger growing over an alleged decade long agreement in which
24:52
Qatar sent up to $30 million in cash to from us every month, a
24:57
strategy known as buying quiet then
25:00
knew that the money was going directly into purchasing of
25:03
rockets and building of tunnels. Why didn't they stop the money?
25:07
Obviously, this concept blew up in everybody's face on October
25:11
7. And tonight
25:12
in Jerusalem protesters braved the rain to march on the Knesset
25:17
demanding Netanyahu bring all hostages still in Gaza home and
25:21
calling for his resignation.
25:23
He knew what Hamas is doing with this money. So he created some
25:29
monster. Some days a monster came out. And
25:36
Israel's military has reportedly started to pump seawater into
25:40
Hamas tunnel complexes in order to destroy them. One concern
25:44
though, is that there may be hostages in some of them. But
25:47
President Biden's tonight says quote, There are assertions
25:49
being made. There are no hostages inside.
25:52
Adam Curry: This has been an interesting narrative. The the
25:55
idea that Bibi Netanyahu himself, created this monster,
26:00
and then unleashed it and let it happen because he loves killing
26:03
children. That's basically I mean, yeah, that's kind of the
26:08
assertion. Now, when it comes to
26:10
John C Dvorak: a couple of weeks clip, there's a couple of things
26:12
to note. One is the idea of buying quiet. I like that term
26:17
buying quiet. I like it. I like it, too. I like and if so, Qatar
26:22
who everyone thinks is kind of behind Hamas. From this report,
26:28
which which I believe since it comes from the network that
26:31
might have access to information, the other was
26:33
don't. Qatar was actually sending the 30 million a month
26:41
to the Hamas to tell him to just calm down. So it was buying
26:46
quiet. The idea was they were they were bribing them. So they
26:49
weren't the bad guys, Qatar. They were the guys trying to
26:52
hey, here's some more money just that's in quiet, calm. Congress,
26:57
I
26:57
Adam Curry: got a report reports called outsource to Qatar and
27:03
the Qatar diaries. I'll just as if that's, you know, they're all
27:07
like all the Hamas guys are in one apartment, you know, hanging
27:11
out, eating kavika and drinking whatever they have sent in, in
27:16
the last 20 years, according to this report, $4.7 billion to US
27:24
universities, which would kind of possibly explain the stance
27:29
that some of the presidents had of these universities? That's a
27:33
lot of money. Yeah, like hundreds of millions per
27:37
University. Yeah. And some of them not the ones that were on
27:42
trial, by the way, but some of them have, you know, campuses in
27:46
Qatar, the Qatar, these don't seem like, like good guys. You
27:52
know, and they're buying everything they're buying. They
27:54
bought soccer, and then just basically buy it with the World
27:57
Cup and then go buy anything we want.
28:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're free spenders.
28:03
Adam Curry: I think everyone who was there, including Elon Musk
28:07
during the the World Cup does should be condemned for it.
28:12
Hanging out with Qataris?
28:15
John C Dvorak: Well, nothing in hindsight, yeah, no, it's not
28:17
Adam Curry: good. And Biden is not doing himself any favors.
28:22
Did you see this? I mean, there was more to that little speech
28:24
he did. Now, famously, when he was a senator many years ago,
28:32
there's and we'd haven't played this clip. Biden is out there
28:36
saying, You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist. I'm a
28:38
Zionist. You've seen that clip. Probably.
28:42
John C Dvorak: Remember it, he doubled
28:43
Adam Curry: down on it. Just during this speech,
28:46
Unknown: I got in trouble get criticized very badly about the
28:49
southern part of my state and some of the southern parts of
28:51
the country. When 35 years ago, I said, you don't have to be due
28:56
to be a Zionist and I'm a Zionist.
29:03
Adam Curry: This is not at Harvard, by the way. You don't
29:05
Unknown: have to be a Zionist folks. Were there no Israel,
29:10
there wouldn't be a June world that was safe.
29:13
Adam Curry: Now he goes into some now he goes into a famous
29:16
Biden I think is a lie. But let's listen to the type
29:21
John C Dvorak: of document is a lie.
29:30
Unknown: Make no bones about I've had my difference with some
29:32
Israeli leadership. I've known baby for now. 51 years. He has a
29:37
picture on his desk of he and I when he was a young member of 51
29:42
Adam Curry: years he's known him when Bibi was what at MIT or
29:46
where he was. I mean, Bibi Netanyahu doesn't
29:48
John C Dvorak: make any sense. He just makes this stuff. I
29:50
think he's making Israeli
29:54
Unknown: service here.
29:57
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, he was in foreign service here. Oh, As a
30:00
spy at MIT,
30:01
Unknown: and I was a 32 year old senator, payment
30:05
Adam Curry: 32 year olds, so he's now 83 Is that how old he
30:09
is? So 51 years ago he was a 32 year old senator. He's not 83 No
30:17
of course not lie are nine
30:20
Unknown: don't agree the damn thing had to say about the same
30:24
today
30:28
Adam Curry: he's not I mean, I can just imagine if someone's
30:30
cringing like oh man, can we keep where's
30:33
John C Dvorak: the 30,000 lies list for this guy? Can
30:36
Adam Curry: somebody please call YouTube and get that one deeply
30:39
pulled off? Oh, it's a short already Oh no. Oh no, it's on
30:44
tick tock for last
30:49
John C Dvorak: Well, I would like to play some my AMY GOODMAN
30:52
Unknown: morning. AMY GOODMAN flippin
30:55
Adam Curry: bound All right, Amy Goodman
30:58
John C Dvorak: All right. So we were gonna play that this is
31:01
kind of those three by three only this is the AMY GOODMAN
31:04
version, brother and it's called the Gaza massacre. Is
31:08
Adam Curry: this is this equity This is equity.
31:11
John C Dvorak: This is my version of equity
31:13
Adam Curry: equity. Okay, very good. All right, guys I've Gaza
31:16
massacre.
31:18
Unknown: In Gaza. Witnesses say Israeli soldier shot displaced
31:22
people at point blank range after they raided Chaga Abu
31:26
Salah school and the northern Alfa Luigia area. According to
31:31
Al Jazeera newborn babies were reportedly among the victims
31:34
heavy bombardment continues throughout the Gaza Strip
31:37
including in Rafah and crime Eunice where homes businesses
31:41
and schools were leveled and Israeli attacks.
31:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. It makes it doesn't but since
31:48
sounds credibly blank range Hey, come here. Yeah. Well,
31:53
Adam Curry: they Hey, they blew up the school and then they were
31:55
dancing. Yeah, we're happy about that. They were happy about it.
31:59
We heard by them. I want to point out war sucks. You know,
32:03
and war is horrible. But I was what was I watching? Oh, man,
32:09
there was who was it? It was someone was talking about I
32:15
should probably should have clipped this. Oh, I know. It was
32:18
Norman Lear. I was listening to Norman Lear. Interview from five
32:23
years ago. So he was well in his 90s. Then he was talking about
32:27
when he when that he recently had gone to Berlin. He said it
32:31
was so weird, because when the last time I was in Berlin,
32:36
wasn't World War Two. But I was bombing. I do two bombing runs
32:39
of Berlin. And I knew that there would be civilians there and I
32:43
was like, screw. The war does weird things, too. He said,
32:47
Yeah. He said that he says scrubs because they deserve it.
32:52
So war does weird things to people. It's it's not. It's not
32:56
a good product. It's not a great product. It's horrible. Now
32:59
John C Dvorak: I wanted to do there was something in those
33:01
really reports Biden saying or just discussing that you know,
33:06
that maybe the international support is slipping a little bit
33:11
and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, well, let's listen to this UN
33:14
votes US ally saying yet yes, the UN
33:17
Unknown: General Assembly Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to
33:19
call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza.
33:22
153 un members approved the resolution 23 Abstain just 10
33:28
including the United States voted no. Though non binding the
33:33
UN vote is another indication of the mounting isolation of the US
33:37
as it continues to support Israel's assault, which has
33:40
killed at least 18,000 Palestinians in a little over
33:44
two months. Australia which abstained from voting for the
33:49
General Assembly ceasefire resolution in October is one of
33:52
the latest US allies to split with Biden Administration's
33:56
position. This is Australia's Foreign Minister Penny Hwang,
34:00
Australia,
34:01
alongside 152 Other countries was among the countries which
34:06
voted in favor. In doing so. We joined Canada, New Zealand,
34:11
Japan, France, and India and many other countries. And in
34:17
doing so we have said Israel must respect international
34:20
humanitarian law.
34:22
Adam Curry: I mean, this is the general assembly it's not the
34:25
Security Council. So it's irrelevant.
34:29
John C Dvorak: The Security Council's irrelevant to yes
34:32
Adam Curry: of course it is. I have an angle report which I'm
34:35
surprised you you missed that one because I thought this was a
34:39
real this tugged at your heartstrings this was perfect.
34:43
In
34:44
Unknown: Gaza now, conditions are beyond miserable, heavy
34:47
rains and shattered infrastructure today led to
34:50
floods 50 miles away in the Palestinian city of Bethlehem.
34:57
The mood is sour in the town where Christians believe Jesus
35:00
was born, there are no tourists or pilgrims, no tree and manger
35:04
square Christmas celebrations have been canceled canceled
35:08
solidarity with Gaza inside the Church of the Nativity. We met
35:12
Reverend Dmitry Rahim when
35:14
you bring your gifts, think of the people in Gaza who are
35:19
starving today, starving not only for food but starving for
35:22
justice.
35:26
In the grotto under the altar, where the faithful believed the
35:29
manger ones lay, we were the only ones to witness the rituals
35:33
that have continued here for centuries. where it began, no
35:39
one is in the mood to celebrate Christmas. Oh
35:43
Adam Curry: wow, that guy needs to work on his away in the
35:46
manger. He was way off key.
35:49
John C Dvorak: So that this one Christmas. That's
35:51
Adam Curry: right, Warren Christmas, Christmas is
35:53
canceled. And I think we'll see that here. We will see people
35:57
canceling their Christmas out of solidarity. I think that will be
36:00
a thing that's that would be there's gonna
36:03
John C Dvorak: be solidary tea with the Ukrainian people in
36:06
Miramar? Possibly Sudan is in solidarity with them. We have
36:12
anything Does anyone care about these other people
36:14
Adam Curry: because they're not starving. As
36:16
Unknown: Israel continues to attack Hamas food is
36:19
increasingly scarce in Gaza. A desperate crowd today rushed to
36:23
take whatever food aid they could and refer. The UN says
36:27
half of the population is starving and diseases are
36:31
spreading in southern Gaza. 15 year old roja Bucher today tried
36:36
to count the number of times she's been displaced. We are
36:42
tired, so tired. We are begging for one bite, she says 90% of
36:48
Gazans have been driven from their homes, according to the
36:51
UN. Many are now living in the open desert. That wall is the
36:55
Egyptian border. The end of the line. Nowhere is left that safe
37:00
for Gazans for the hostages.
37:03
Adam Curry: So Egypt won't let him give a Hey angle,
37:05
John C Dvorak: give them some food if you're there. Ain't
37:09
gonna give him some food.
37:10
Adam Curry: No, no, no. It's a heart wrenching report. He's
37:14
really He's talking about the strings. Now I want to come back
37:18
to
37:19
John C Dvorak: there or is he is that was he in some some hotel
37:23
sweet?
37:25
Adam Curry: Green Screen, of course, is what these guys do.
37:28
John C Dvorak: Far as I know, they're not letting any American
37:30
journalist in the area. So how was he there?
37:32
Adam Curry: He was you. It's I don't know. He's hanging out
37:36
with what's his face was the Brit who's there now? Yeah, the
37:40
intellectual guy. We had a clip of him, what's his name? The guy
37:46
who's a smarty pants. He was reporting there anyway. It's
37:50
horrible. The whole thing's a mess. source it is. It's a mess,
37:54
then it's creating a mess everywhere. Then at the
37:57
universities, ah, mess times mess. Harvard, Harvard
38:02
Unknown: is arguably the world's best known and most prestigious
38:05
university. This institution which shapes the American elite,
38:09
has become a flashpoint in the US reaction to the Israel Hamas
38:13
conflict deprives Palestinians dignity of burying. This is a
38:22
member of the Palestine support committee, the first student
38:25
groups to issue a statement after October 7, it was
38:29
contentious notably because it accused Israel of being entirely
38:32
responsible for the Hamas attack. Without a word for the
38:35
Israeli victims.
38:36
It was just intended to contextualize the situation
38:39
within 75 years of occupation within decades of seeds within
38:44
apartheid within settler colonialism within ethnic
38:46
cleansing. And I think it was supposed to warn of the coming
38:49
violence that we would surely see in weeks to follow.
38:51
So why not condemn Hamas?
38:54
Harvard refuses to call a genocide a genocide?
39:00
We put that question to the students who refuse to answer
39:03
like, you know,
39:04
I'm sorry, I can't answer that question. There has absolutely
39:07
been a double standard in how mainstream media approaches this
39:11
need to recognize the Zionist regime for what it is. And that
39:15
is a settler colonial regime that seeks to wipe the historic
39:19
land of Palestine clean of any Palestinians in order to create
39:23
their own land that excludes and eliminates other people. Okay,
39:27
Adam Curry: so this this kind of triggered me because in
39:29
following on the clips that you had on last show, were why
39:34
somebody really yelled at me about that. You know, where what
39:38
well about the the kid who was there, you know, well, once we,
39:41
John C Dvorak: once we get rid of Israel.
39:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, somebody asked, because like usually just
39:46
laughing at dead people. No, no.
39:50
John C Dvorak: Laughing a
39:50
Adam Curry: dead people. People don't listen very well. It
39:53
doesn't matter. This is not a typical universe. Many students
40:00
have been brainwashed, there's an entire. And when I say it's
40:04
not about Israel, Hamas is about colonialism. The West is bad,
40:08
white is bad men are bad, straight white old men very,
40:13
very bad, very bad, especially in the West. And this and this
40:17
is an ongoing program. And it's it's very understandable when
40:22
you look at the history, history listening and coming. When you
40:25
look at the history, you know, what was the last thing they
40:28
were protesting for? I mean, besides the ongoing LGBTQ plus
40:33
which usurped lives matter, black lives matter. And there
40:37
has been a long standing, long standing operation going on
40:44
between black Americans and the Palestinian region. I'm saying
40:50
that purposely Palestine. This has been going on since almost
40:55
before I was born. In
40:56
Unknown: 1964, Malcolm X published an article in the
40:59
Egyptian Gazette called Zionist logic, in which he drew
41:02
parallels between the oppression of Palestinians and Africans.
41:06
Instead of seeing it as a religious conflict, Malcolm saw
41:09
Israel as a colonial project serving a wider imperialist
41:12
agenda. Seeing European imperialists wisely placed
41:16
Israel where she could geographically divided the Arab
41:19
world. In the same year, Malcolm was one of the first African
41:22
leaders to publicly meet with the Palestine Liberation
41:24
Organization as anti colonial struggles gain traction through
41:27
the world. Freedom for Palestinians became a touchstone
41:31
for the international fight against imperialism. As black
41:34
freedom movements expanded their worldview to situate their
41:37
struggle as part of a global anti colonial movement.
41:40
Palestine also became an important focal point of their
41:43
solidarity. On August 15 1967, the Student Nonviolent
41:47
Coordinating Committee released a position paper entitled The
41:50
Middle East crisis, expressing support for Palestine and
41:53
criticizing us support for Israel. Organizations such as
41:57
the Black Panthers argued that freedom would never come for
42:00
black people in America unless all oppressed people were free.
42:04
The Panthers frequently spoke of black communities and their
42:06
relationship with police as living under occupation as
42:10
internally colonized people. They were vocal in their support
42:13
for Palestine, and met with the PLO in Algiers in 1969. So
42:17
Adam Curry: that's black panthers and Malcolm.
42:20
John C Dvorak: Second, whoever got you that clip, I'm gonna
42:21
give you a clip of the day. That's a beauty.
42:24
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you, I got that myself from TRT.
42:29
John C Dvorak: Give yourself a pat on the back. Well, so
42:33
Adam Curry: I've another one. I've a second but follow up. But
42:35
go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Israel's
42:37
John C Dvorak: not in A is not put in. It's not in the spot
42:41
that's dividing the Arab nations. It's in between the
42:44
Egyptians and Arabs, there's no other it's not like in the
42:49
middle between Saudi Arabia and the UAE or anything like that.
42:54
That's nonsense. But yeah, I understand. I remembered some of
42:58
this from my days at Cal Berkeley, these the same thing,
43:02
Adam Curry: it's the same thing. And black Americans from early
43:07
on, were infiltrated by Marxist, the true Marxist came in and
43:12
right away when Hey, the Marxist were in the south in America,
43:16
trying to get people to get on board. And the only people who
43:20
showed up were black people. Like, hey, these guys care about
43:23
us. They're listening to us. And there's long standing friction
43:28
between blacks and Jews in America. So this wedge has been
43:31
played for a long time. And it always comes down to America
43:35
Bad, bad, bad colonialism. I'm not saying that. It's there's
43:40
not no colonialism going on here. But this is not a new
43:44
thing. In fact, let's go back a little less far.
43:47
Unknown: Muhammad Ali also declared his support for the
43:49
Palestinian struggle, marching for Palestinian rights and
43:52
visiting a Palestinian refugee camp in southern Lebanon. In
43:56
1979, Reverend Jesse Jackson met with the PLO and pushed for the
44:00
US to deal directly with the organization in pursuit of a
44:03
peace deal
44:04
just and lasting peace is inextricably bound for a state
44:11
of the Palestinian people, and the recognition of the PLO as
44:15
the government in exile with which our nation must negotiate.
44:19
This was a significant shift in support for Palestine moving
44:22
from radical groups to more mainstream figures who were able
44:25
to lobby for shifts in US policy. 10 years later, Jackson
44:29
would find himself in an audience in Harlem as Nelson
44:31
Mandela addressed a packed town home
44:34
as far as Yasser Arafat is concerned. I explained to Mr.
44:39
City that we identify with a piano it causes just like
44:48
ourselves. They are fighting for the right of self determination.
44:59
Adam Curry: So Actually IBM now I think about I want to make
45:03
sure there was there might have been a producer who sent me this
45:06
I may be wrong it may or may not have been my discovery alone. I
45:09
don't want to I don't want don't want to take no Stolen Valor.
45:12
Stolen
45:13
John C Dvorak: Valor Oh my god. So I should mention a couple of
45:16
things one when I went and visited Israel some time ago but
45:20
before I did I was given a briefing on some of the stuff
45:23
going on and I was told that it was never going to be any such
45:26
two state solution once they're there they're never going to
45:29
schism had to exist because of basic corruption and he this guy
45:35
Israeli course so as the information could be slanted but
45:38
he pointed me to a Time magazine article that one of them though
45:41
he says by this writer who's has gotten jobs jobs since
45:46
discussing the kind of corruption that goes on in the
45:48
in the way it would be, become Gaza, which would which included
45:53
Coca Cola concessions, yeah, yes, that only went to a certain
45:57
group of people that were and it was all everything was bought
46:00
and paid for by bribery. And it was so much money being made off
46:05
of through the via the PLO, and that's the reason that we always
46:09
forget the fact that when after he died, it was discovered that
46:13
Yasser Arafat had billions of dollars stored away in a in a
46:19
Swiss bank, which had you get built not to a couple of bucks,
46:23
but a billions. Yeah. And it was full
46:27
Adam Curry: of crap. Everyone's full of crap.
46:28
John C Dvorak: Everyone's fully crap. And
46:31
Adam Curry: people they don't care about their people, just
46:35
like our so called leaders don't actually care about us. The
46:39
faster people realize that the better. You know, this, this
46:45
just no care in the world and you don't have to choose a side.
46:49
You can be choosing sides all day long as we keep pointing out
46:52
this sides everywhere. How about looking at your own city or your
46:56
own neighborhood? How's it going there have potholes? I do have
47:02
some black lives matter. Trans Maoist, racist stuff. Two fun
47:07
clips.
47:08
John C Dvorak: That's always always fun, always fun.
47:10
Adam Curry: And the first one is James O'Keefe. The man he
47:15
doesn't need his donors. He's doing just fine. He got a zoom
47:21
call from the CEO of IBM. Who is
47:27
John C Dvorak: he the Indian, I think is Indian. I thought the
47:30
CEO was Gina Rometty.
47:31
Adam Curry: This is from 2021.
47:34
John C Dvorak: I thought the CEO then was was her. Ah,
47:39
Adam Curry: who was this guy then CEO, IBM. Let me see.
47:44
Ma'am. Now Arvid Krishna.
47:49
John C Dvorak: Arvind Krishna. Yeah. Is he the CEO? Yeah.
47:54
Adam Curry: I guess I would maybe choose chairman and CEO
47:57
since April 2020. took on the role of chairman in 2021.
48:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're behind to what I know. No
48:06
kidding. What
48:07
Adam Curry: do we know?
48:09
John C Dvorak: It was during COVID. You know, anything that
48:11
happened during COVID.
48:12
Adam Curry: Also, on this zoom call, was the CEO of Red Hat,
48:18
which has since been acquired, which was an acquisition by
48:23
John C Dvorak: the algo.
48:25
Adam Curry: Looks like a white dude. Then there's this. She
48:28
doesn't talk much. There's some like a PR lady who's just
48:32
smiling like a doofus on camera the whole time. He has a whole
48:36
report. I'm gonna play one minute of it, you'll get the
48:38
idea pretty quick.
48:39
Unknown: We take underrepresented and gender you
48:42
got to move both forward by a percentage that leads to a plus
48:45
on a bonus. By the way, if you lose, you lose part of your
48:49
bonus. I'm not trying to finesse this. So for blacks, we should
48:52
try to get to a 13 point something percent on Hispanics.
48:55
You gotta get into the mid teens. Alleppey say, Asians in
48:58
the US. I'm not an underrepresented minority in a
49:01
tech company. James
49:02
O'Keefe here outside of IBM's corporate headquarters in
49:05
Armonk, New York. And IBM insider has provided us with an
49:09
internal video showing the CEO of IBM Arban Krishna using
49:13
coercion to fire people and take away their bonuses unless they
49:17
discriminate in the hiring process. Let me go
49:20
deeper into Red Hat multiple leaders over the last year plus
49:23
that were held accountable to the point that they're no longer
49:26
here at Red Hat because they weren't willing to live up to
49:28
the standards that we set in this space. This conversation
49:31
takes place every single day. And a lot of it's behind the
49:35
scenes,
49:36
the terminated executives that didn't discriminate yet another
49:39
violation of Title Seven, one of the biggest companies in the
49:42
world, one of the most valuable and recognizable brands on
49:45
Earth.
49:47
Adam Curry: So they had quotas, you know, oh, you need to hire
49:50
2% more black people. 2% more trans people that quotas and if
49:55
you didn't, if you didn't do it, then you'd either your bonus
49:58
will get docked or you Couldn't get fired outright. How about
50:03
that? Wow. Yeah. Wow was right, IBM. I mean, I wish I wish there
50:09
was a product that could ban but I don't use any I mean, who uses
50:13
IBM products? I'm sure we all use it indirectly.
50:17
John C Dvorak: Because there's, there's they have things here in
50:19
there.
50:20
Adam Curry: When's the last time you bought an IBM PC? ThinkPad?
50:23
Do they still exist that did they are they still they
50:25
John C Dvorak: sold the whole business on Lenovo. Lenovo.
50:27
Right, right. So they don't even make those anymore. And I don't
50:31
know what they you know, they think they still make some sort
50:34
of chips.
50:35
Adam Curry: But this goes on everywhere in boardrooms and
50:38
executive suites across the United States. I know candle
50:43
have many examples
50:44
John C Dvorak: of the meritocracy that this country
50:46
was founded on No
50:47
Adam Curry: man, it's about your gender and your skin color began
50:52
and that is a direct result of Larry Fink's invention, which is
50:55
backpedaling on ESG, which are a big part of your ESG your
51:00
environmental social governance score is your diversity and
51:04
equity inside your corporation along with your green washing.
51:09
Oh, it's horrible. And it makes these companies suck. And there
51:13
you go. IBM. I think you suck. Where's your AI? Where's your
51:17
Watson? No. But that's okay. Because racism is
51:23
John C Dvorak: they end up
51:24
Adam Curry: failing in the market. Oh, yeah. Eventually
51:26
eventually. Yeah. And okie for not doing well help them.
51:31
John C Dvorak: Right. Keith is helping them helping them. Yes,
51:36
helping them fail,
51:37
Adam Curry: but they will fail in the market because if you
51:39
bring in mediocre people eventually just get mediocre
51:42
product and and it's very hard to swing that boat around once
51:45
you've once it's ingrained in the organization. Boss Boston
51:50
though the mayor of Boston oh man a little email boo boo
51:54
Boston Mayor
51:54
Unknown: Michelle Wu showing up to her Beacon Hill holiday party
51:57
and all smiles after an email error sparked controversy
52:01
surrounding the festive affair.
52:03
It was a one of those emails that we've all sent at one point
52:07
or another no
52:08
and it was obtained by a member of the mayor's staff to the
52:11
entire city council Tuesday. I cordially invite you and a guest
52:15
to the electeds of color holiday party. But 15 minutes later
52:19
another email went out rescinding that invite to the
52:22
white councillors clarifying I did send that to everyone by
52:26
accident. I apologize if my email may have offended mistake
52:30
or not. City Councilor Frank Baker says this is just one
52:33
example of the racial divisions inside City Hall.
52:36
Well, yeah, I do find it divisive but you know what do
52:39
you what are you going to do about it? You don't want me at a
52:41
party I'm uncomfortable body. So you know,
52:44
the event has been happening for years and the mayor is defending
52:47
the party. I can
52:49
understand someone would be confused or worried if certain
52:54
people weren't being invited. Or were being left out of any type
52:59
of celebration, but they're I assure you, everyone on the
53:03
Boston City Council has gotten an invitation to multiple types
53:08
of events and holiday parties
53:10
that the mayor says that there will be another party at the
53:13
same location on another date where all city officials are
53:17
invited to attend
53:18
Adam Curry: scandalous there was a Christmas party the for the
53:22
elected people of color which as mo would say is another way of
53:26
saying elected color people so that's all he can hear such
53:30
John C Dvorak: it yeah I'm I'm so I can be honest about that's
53:33
what I always hear to bull
53:34
Adam Curry: crap term is racist. It's just racist.
53:38
John C Dvorak: And then they do a segregated party. Yes. Yes.
53:41
Adam Curry: Segregated party. It is. I mean, why you should go
53:47
throw a party at IBM. You fit right in with their with their
53:51
culture. Okay. Now, this is this has got to be my favorite topic
53:59
for for today. You're on a roll. Yeah, no, there's this. There's
54:05
John C Dvorak: a show at the mall or something.
54:06
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, Moe and I are due for a show that we're
54:09
due for a show you know, something really beautiful
54:13
happen. So I was listening to my favorite show the hate listen.
54:17
Oh, your pivot? Yes. pivot here we go with Professor Prof. G and
54:22
your protege.
54:24
John C Dvorak: Stop and tell you something. I was reluctant to
54:27
tell you but I'm going to tell you all right. So I'm talking to
54:30
Mia Mia. She's doing the good news stuff. And just like she's
54:34
white, she overdoing it issues. She's
54:36
Adam Curry: picking the good news currently,
54:38
John C Dvorak: because she's got she'd give me 20 of them. And I
54:41
thought, Oh my God.
54:42
Adam Curry: Maybe it's like good news.
54:46
John C Dvorak: So she says that, you know, Adam is better on the
54:52
show than ever before. He's not so testy. He's not so uptight
54:58
about everything you say. He's not like Like, he's not like an
55:00
old lesbian that's agreeing with her when she says this, and she
55:07
says she says he's funnier. He's doesn't get offended by
55:12
everything like he used to. Wow. And this she said, It's because
55:16
he stopped smoking dope.
55:22
Adam Curry: I think that's a part of it. Possibly. Yeah. was
55:25
part of it. I mean,
55:27
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, I mean, I said that until he does
55:30
smoke dope or tobacco products anymore. Changes. A little bit.
55:34
My dnn is religious. Yeah. Yeah, he's a little bit of accepting.
55:38
But Jesus,
55:39
Adam Curry: I have saved me.
55:42
John C Dvorak: She's not a fan of you being saved. But no, he
55:45
says, even I said religion will. Should if it works, keep him
55:50
from going back to smoking pot all the time. I'm not gonna
55:53
smoke anymore. Because you were and people don't realize this.
55:58
You were basically 24/7 on a heater. You were a 24/7 smoker
56:06
waken big baby.
56:09
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah.
56:11
John C Dvorak: And ever. I never thought it really affected your
56:13
personality, but she says is noticeable. Oh,
56:16
Adam Curry: well, that's not according to one of our
56:18
donations that we'll have later on.
56:21
John C Dvorak: You're a hater.
56:23
Adam Curry: I don't know what I am. Anyway. I'm not a hater. So
56:28
now that what's interesting is this, uh, the Heritage
56:32
Foundation came out with a document. And this is the
56:35
genesis of what's going on here. If this document is called
56:39
Project 2025. And, well, maybe we can talk about that in a
56:45
moment. But this is basically the conservative slash
56:51
Republican manual for all the things they want to do. And it's
56:55
very Heritage Foundation. It's, it's 1000 pages is a big
56:59
document. And as you can imagine, it's you know, stuff
57:02
like, hey, racism against white people is racism. Hey, let's,
57:08
let's let's try and reduce this abortion epidemic. We've got,
57:12
you know, it's all the Heritage Foundation stuff you'd expect.
57:16
But this is not the Heritage Fund. Oh, no, this is Trump.
57:21
John C Dvorak: This is all about Trump. So Trump Yeah. Oh, yeah.
57:25
What's up? We'll get to this came out of the heritage. Yeah,
57:27
but Trump is trumping the heritage or are not even close.
57:31
I know I know.
57:32
Adam Curry: But, but before we get to that part, I first want
57:35
to go to the hate Listen, which I adore them. I just want you to
57:39
know that if they were value for value, I'd send them value. I
57:43
disagree
57:44
John C Dvorak: with this with what you don't do. You don't
57:47
endure them. You don't like I missed the show door.
57:51
Adam Curry: I said a door you said indoor and outdoor. I said
57:55
I adore them. You endure them now. You heard it wrong. I said
58:00
I adore them. I do I adore them.
58:04
John C Dvorak: I hold back the chain.
58:05
Adam Curry: I love Kara's paw. I love it when she's when she goes
58:08
on shows as Elon Musk has dropped the effort. This is a 52
58:13
year old man. What
58:14
John C Dvorak: did you know she used to love you pointed this
58:16
out. She used to be a big huge fan of Ilan Yeah, what happened
58:20
between those two? Well,
58:22
Adam Curry: you know she is a she's a pushover. She takes
58:29
she's accessed journalist.
58:31
John C Dvorak: You know if Ilan said something good about her. I
58:34
bet she she turned the corner on this. Oh, in
58:36
Adam Curry: a heartbeat. She was all Apple the stupid visor. It's
58:41
no good. This vision pro what is like Google Glass. They invite
58:45
her for a demo. Wow. This is the future. Please, please. Now
58:51
Elon. Elon shined her on and said now be whatever, I'm the
58:55
meal. And, you know, I gave Elon all the breaks. I created Elon
58:59
Musk. It doesn't matter. They had they had Dan Pfeiffer on Dan
59:03
Pfeiffer where he's from pod save America. He's from that
59:07
whole that whole group. And he's actually I was in my money. He's
59:12
the smartest of the group and he was an Obama advisor.
59:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these guys are the pod save America as are
59:19
all the oh by the right bottom left wingers of podcasting. Yes,
59:24
it's not Chapo. traphouse. Knows close.
59:27
Adam Curry: Pfeiffer is a smart guy. And he goes on the end. He
59:33
has a podcast, which is kind of why I was listening because he
59:35
has a podcast called the polar coaster. I know right, get off
59:43
the polar coaster because it's all about polls. Anyway, he goes
59:48
on and he gives a recommendation, what the
59:51
Democrats should not do what they explained what they should
59:54
not be doing. With Trump right now. We have focused
59:58
Unknown: and I think rightfully on Donald Trump's thing on day
1:00:00
one. But what keeps getting left out is what he said right after
1:00:04
that, which he's going to, he basically said, I am going to
1:00:06
abuse power to secure the border and quote drill, drill drill.
1:00:12
Right? So what he is trying to do is to say, I am going to be
1:00:15
an authoritarian but I'm going to be authoritarian for you.
1:00:17
Here's all I'm going to help your wife right. These we know
1:00:20
that these things people care a lot about cost of energy. And
1:00:23
border is at the top of it's right below inflation on a lot
1:00:26
of the polls in terms of concerns for voters. What
1:00:30
Democrats should do is not it we is we should avoid some traps.
1:00:33
First is we shouldn't run around talking about how strong Donald
1:00:35
Trump is because strength is part of his appeal. We have to
1:00:38
talk about his knee the fact that he is weak, right that he
1:00:42
that Donald Trump has ever stood up to anyone in his life. He
1:00:44
bails on the CEOs he bows down to dictators. He's running for
1:00:48
president not to help you but because afraid to face the
1:00:50
consequences for his actions in office last time and make it
1:00:53
about his weakness, right, Donald Trump what that is a trap
1:00:57
to make us talk about how strong and fearful he is. Next, and
1:01:00
this is really important as we have to talk about how what
1:01:04
Donald Trump would do how him being a dictator or seizing
1:01:07
power abusing her would affect you. Right, I think one great
1:01:10
way to do this talk about abortion. Right, the Heritage
1:01:13
Foundation and others have talked about how even if Donald
1:01:16
Trump is unable to pass a federal abortion ban, they can
1:01:19
weaponize the federal government to put in fact a de facto
1:01:22
federal abortion ban.
1:01:23
Adam Curry: So he's read the Heritage Foundation document and
1:01:26
he makes a really smart point here. He says, Don't be talking
1:01:31
about him being the dictator. Don't do that, because that only
1:01:35
solidifies He's a powerful, powerful man. He specifically
1:01:39
and I think smartly says no, we should not be doing this. Super
1:01:44
cut time.
1:01:45
Unknown: What would a second Donald Trump term look like?
1:01:49
Well, he cannot be the next president. It because if he is
1:01:54
you can't imagine the things that he's going to do. Mexico,
1:01:58
Canada, we can go to Canada because eventually Canada will
1:02:02
become an ex to America and shoot visitors to the White
1:02:05
House. That means he can shut the First Lady.
1:02:08
We're gonna see violence, the likes of which we didn't even
1:02:11
see on January 6.
1:02:15
Make it illegal to run against him to throw his opponents in
1:02:17
jail to shut down the media, he will make
1:02:19
himself into the furor. And he will make everybody raise their
1:02:23
hand
1:02:23
and salute him using martial law against American germinate
1:02:27
the Constitution, we write the constitution. Camps throw
1:02:33
everyone into Gitmo might be sent to jail
1:02:36
or their rights might be suppressed. Especially minority
1:02:39
groups in society
1:02:41
you might have any number of things happen to you and your
1:02:43
family, every one of
1:02:45
us our freedom or liberty. None of us is safe. It's going to
1:02:48
have people around him executing against an enemies list,
1:02:51
assassinate
1:02:52
generals ordering troops
1:02:55
to attack American citizens, very well
1:02:58
armed extremist base, we will try to kill people
1:03:01
John C Dvorak: when he's going to basically burn the house
1:03:03
Unknown: down, he will unravel the institutions of our
1:03:06
democracy, draw similarities between Mussolini and Hitler,
1:03:11
Hitler and Benito Mussolini,
1:03:13
Donald Trump even more dangerous wants
1:03:15
to take away your vote Senate in the house are immediately going
1:03:17
to be paralyzed. People will begin in their minds to censor
1:03:20
themselves. They might say, well, maybe I shouldn't say this
1:03:24
is the end of democracy.
1:03:25
I think that could be the end of our democracy. But democracy is
1:03:29
dead if Trump is reelected.
1:03:31
Democracy will be at risk. The absolute destruction of the
1:03:35
Justice Department as
1:03:36
we know it, the Justice Department could be entirely
1:03:40
transformed.
1:03:40
I really concerned about that
1:03:42
person who was associated with the attempted coup elevated in
1:03:45
the
1:03:45
administration. he's reelected he will curb transgender rights
1:03:49
and the rule of law, arrest political opponents to
1:03:53
persecute, not prosecute or persecute his enemies
1:03:56
take a wrecking ball to the rule of law, he's
1:03:58
going to make the law everyone else will have to follow the
1:04:01
vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you ever
1:04:05
get to vote in
1:04:05
go after the independent and free parts of American civic
1:04:10
life
1:04:10
with tear down our institutions. Birds, the government of
1:04:13
employees department by department effort to weaponize
1:04:17
the powers of the government to use the military to quash
1:04:20
protests, reading the government of all democratic safeguards,
1:04:24
junking American democracy, as we have always known it, that he
1:04:29
would try to stay in office beyond a second term. He would
1:04:32
never leave office, there's no question Trump is reelected. He
1:04:35
won't leave. Trump will never leave office voluntarily. And
1:04:39
what that means
1:04:39
is that everybody who wants us to remain a republic
1:04:43
has to put every other thing aside and work together urgently
1:04:48
right now to stop that from happening. So
1:04:51
Adam Curry: props to gray Bian for putting that together. So do
1:04:55
they heed any advice? No. Well,
1:04:58
John C Dvorak: the Republicans are the same way. I was
1:05:00
listening to of all people I don't like him, which is Sean
1:05:03
Hannity. And he's giving advice to the party about you know, how
1:05:09
to ride this abortion thing correctly. And of course, no
1:05:12
one's gonna pay any attention to him they're gonna lose a lot of
1:05:15
votes because they're gonna get whiplash rip whip. whipsaw
1:05:19
whipsawed by the Democrats on abortion issues if
1:05:22
Adam Curry: if the Democrats can drag themselves away from the
1:05:26
Hitler, Mussolini dictator thing, which I think is exactly
1:05:28
why Trump did that. Well,
1:05:31
John C Dvorak: not as you mentioned that I because I think
1:05:33
that analysis by your podcasting friend was right on the money. I
1:05:39
think so too. And we've noticed this on this show. He doesn't
1:05:42
know how to pick people for his cabinet. He just basically Are
1:05:46
you a backstabber You're hired. brings in people like the
1:05:51
walrus,
1:05:54
Adam Curry: Bolton, Bolton,
1:05:56
John C Dvorak: what would you hire that guy?
1:05:58
Adam Curry: He's a fart sniffer.
1:05:59
John C Dvorak: We never got a whole slew of Council on Foreign
1:06:03
Relations, people that are set up to go against him and the
1:06:07
drop of a hat. Yeah. And it's just, you know, but on the other
1:06:13
hand, you got Biden.
1:06:15
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to hear it? Yeah,
1:06:16
John C Dvorak: I agree with everything that you played
1:06:18
there.
1:06:19
Adam Curry: So here's a video from this other project. 2025
1:06:23
project 2020 five.org. I mean, this is a video from it, just to
1:06:27
give you an idea of
1:06:28
Unknown: conservatives exist, to conserve the ideals of the
1:06:32
American founding, these ideas are actually the
1:06:35
Adam Curry: source of our recovery. Notice the difference
1:06:41
in in music ta January
1:06:43
Unknown: 20. When the President puts his hand on the Bible,
1:06:46
everything changes.
1:06:49
Our goal is to ensure that the conservative administration that
1:06:52
takes office in January 25 is ready on day one, the next
1:06:57
conservative president will only be able to do so with your help.
1:07:06
And the President of the conservative partnership
1:07:07
Institute, Vice President of Hillsdale College, the head of
1:07:10
the Office of Justice Programs, Assistant Secretary
1:07:13
for Public Affairs, senior adviser to the president,
1:07:15
Assistant press secretary.
1:07:20
You're here to cut government and you're here to do something
1:07:23
that's not in
1:07:23
their interest. The deep state is real. You want to be someone
1:07:27
who knows answers. As
1:07:29
a public servant, you're working on behalf of the American
1:07:31
people, the greatest country on the planet.
1:07:38
Adam Curry: Johnson sure that that power is executed
1:07:41
responsibly. So they have a whole training project. You
1:07:44
know, they've got materials, they've got their whole policy
1:07:47
directive. I mean, it's not a Trump thing. They have the
1:07:51
mandate for leadership. You know, our goal is to assemble an
1:07:54
army of aligned, vetted, trained and prepared conservatives to go
1:07:57
to work on day one, to deconstruct the administrative
1:08:00
state. I don't think there's American that doesn't agree with
1:08:04
that. That there's an administrative state has gone
1:08:07
too far. So fine, you know, but it's not a Trump thing. It's
1:08:11
just not I don't think Trump is all that tight with the Heritage
1:08:14
Foundation
1:08:15
John C Dvorak: of these that tight with conservatives in
1:08:17
general. Yeah. Well, so
1:08:20
Adam Curry: you can stop this next one, whenever you want
1:08:22
this, this was a Tiktok. guy. And he read the document, which
1:08:28
was dug a big document Project 2025, which in his mind is
1:08:33
Trump. This is not the Heritage Foundation. In his mind. This is
1:08:37
the Trump document. And you can deconstruct just by listening to
1:08:42
what he's saying, but how He's twisting the words of what's
1:08:45
actually in there, I think you'll like it. You haven't
1:08:47
heard her
1:08:47
Unknown: project 2025 Stop what you're doing. And watch this
1:08:51
project. 2025 is a plan for Trump's second term that would
1:08:54
transform America into a far right Christian nationalist
1:08:59
militarized state. You can read the nearly 1000 Page plan for
1:09:03
yourself at Project 2020 five.org. So you can know I
1:09:07
am not exaggerating three key facts. Number one, a mass firing
1:09:11
purge that Trump authorized before the 2020 election but
1:09:15
never got the act on is at the center of Project 2025. Now,
1:09:19
more than 2 million Americans across the country are part of
1:09:23
the Federal civilian workforce scientists and scientific
1:09:26
agencies, doctors at the FDA accountants at the IRS, we want
1:09:30
experts doing jobs that require expertise. So
1:09:35
Adam Curry: the document says, Hey, we gotta get we got to pair
1:09:37
these agencies down there. They're badgering the American
1:09:41
public that turns into, we want our doctors we want our tax
1:09:45
experts, but more
1:09:47
Unknown: than 50,000 of them would be fired under this plan
1:09:50
and replaced with mega loyalists. Oh, will you lose the
1:09:53
power of these agencies to fundamentally change the nature
1:09:57
of America? Yes out needing to involve Congress without
1:10:01
Congress to Project 2025 is a far right Christian nationalist
1:10:06
agenda. Oh, there must be Nazis like page five they're already
1:10:10
proclaiming pornography should be outlawed, but people who not
1:10:16
Adam Curry: okay, so I know a lot of people are what hold on a
1:10:18
second man Don't touch my porn. But that's not what they're
1:10:21
talking about this this is a great twist of, of what's
1:10:26
actually in there because of course it talking about the
1:10:29
material that is in books in schools in grade schools to
1:10:34
John C Dvorak: grade schools with all the basically
1:10:38
pornography that has been kind of slipped into the grade
1:10:42
schools made in California, they made it illegal to take those
1:10:45
books out of the schools because
1:10:47
Adam Curry: because porn is great and push that
1:10:49
John C Dvorak: through, but he doesn't really know what he's
1:10:50
doing.
1:10:51
Adam Curry: But But it's interesting that he phrases this
1:10:53
as they're going to outlaw pornography. I mean, everyone's
1:10:57
like, what, what?
1:10:58
John C Dvorak: What are you gonna do? interesting twist.
1:11:01
Adam Curry: Listen to the whole thing. 25
1:11:03
Unknown: is a far right Christian nationalist agenda. By
1:11:06
page five, they're already proclaiming pornography should
1:11:10
be outlawed. But people who produce and distribute it should
1:11:14
be imprisoned educators and public librarians who purvey it
1:11:18
should be classed as registered sex offenders. This would be
1:11:22
alarming enough if they were talking about actual
1:11:26
pornography, but their definition spans anything that
1:11:29
acknowledges the existence of LGBTQ people claim on page 451
1:11:35
that families comprised of a married mother, father and their
1:11:39
children are the foundation of a well ordered nation and healthy
1:11:43
society, thereby designating queer people, single parents,
1:11:47
unmarried co parents, and people who get abortions as inherently
1:11:50
inferior and a threat to the states. Notice the people who
1:11:54
get abortions on page 584, they call for the Department of Labor
1:11:58
to explicitly give companies permission to discriminate
1:12:02
against LGBTQ Americans on page four,
1:12:05
Adam Curry: this is your thing. This is your thing. You know,
1:12:07
you always say you don't want people with with the tattoos and
1:12:11
the piercings and the hair. You don't want them in your company.
1:12:14
That is your horrible LGBTQ plus hater.
1:12:18
John C Dvorak: I'm not an LGBTQ hater. My take is, and I don't
1:12:24
think it's got anything to do with any of these issues. Or you
1:12:27
don't want certain kinds of mentalities in your company that
1:12:32
will just bring in others of the same ilk. And then they'll turn
1:12:35
on you. Yes, Your company has to be configured has to have one
1:12:39
corporate culture of people that are all in agreement lockstep so
1:12:43
the company can survive can survive and do well. So I say
1:12:48
make sure to do testing to make sure that the woke aren't hired.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: So you don't need to hear more of this. Do you have
1:12:54
this particular one? I think you've heard enough. Are you are
1:12:57
you pining for more? Do you want more? I can play a little
1:12:59
John C Dvorak: you know, you can stop because I think you're
1:13:02
probably Yeah, I but yeah, yeah, this is what you do. So you just
1:13:08
read interpret, you can do that with anything. And you just did
1:13:12
it by turning on me.
1:13:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right. I turned on. Yeah. Because, you
1:13:18
know, no longer smoking dope turned on you. That's
1:13:21
John C Dvorak: exactly the reason. If you were smoking
1:13:23
dope, or whatever.
1:13:25
Adam Curry: Cool, man. So now, the veck Vivec. All of a sudden,
1:13:31
it dawned on me. He's working for Trump. His job is the same
1:13:36
job. No, but I mean, I hadn't dawned on me until I saw parts
1:13:42
of his of his town hall, which was quite funny. A couple of,
1:13:47
John C Dvorak: he's hilarious. In fact, he's, he's, he's
1:13:50
outdoing Trump in a lot of ways. No, I
1:13:52
Adam Curry: think his whole that's the whole Trump was like,
1:13:54
here's what you do. And he's may even be writing some stick for
1:14:00
him. Stick a stick because Vivec is doing stick and he's he's in
1:14:05
his good, and he's snappy. And he is he is, I mean, he
1:14:10
obviously has fu money so he doesn't care.
1:14:12
John C Dvorak: And I think you know, he couldn't have a
1:14:14
comedian coach. It feels
1:14:17
Adam Curry: like it. He's he even his hair. His hair wasn't
1:14:21
all crazy up in the air like that all like Bozo before. I
1:14:24
mean, he's Have you noticed this? I'm a hair guy. Yeah. His
1:14:28
hairs kind of his hairs a little wacky,
1:14:30
John C Dvorak: little more manic.
1:14:32
Adam Curry: A little more manic. Exactly. And just as Chris
1:14:35
Christie's entire raison d'etre, which is friends for reason for
1:14:40
being is to protect Nimrod.
1:14:45
John C Dvorak: What's your name? Nimrod,
1:14:48
Adam Curry: Nimrod, Haley, Nikki,
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: Nikki, Haley, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick,
1:14:52
Nikki.
1:14:53
Adam Curry: The his whole job is to protect her is to encircle
1:14:56
her. And to you know, to the ward I'm the beside during That
1:15:00
debate for what we could watch of it. So Overbeck is of avec is
1:15:04
doing the same thing for Trump, but he's go, he's going out
1:15:07
there, and he's delivering the Trump message. If you had
1:15:10
Unknown: told me it's close to three years ago that January
1:15:13
6 2021 happened if you'd told me three years ago, back when I was
1:15:16
a biotech CEO, not steeped in this world. I was just consuming
1:15:20
passive media, but was focused on my world of developing
1:15:22
medicines. If you had told me that January 6 was in any way an
1:15:25
inside job the subject of government entrapment. I would
1:15:29
have told you that was crazy talk. Fringe, this is
1:15:31
Adam Curry: good. By the way, this this is a good way to put
1:15:33
it. Hey, you know, I mean, I was making medicines that my mom
1:15:39
somehow was involved with, okay, it doesn't matter. I was making
1:15:41
medicines. I was. I was a biotech guy.
1:15:46
John C Dvorak: I have a red book prediction. Go because if this
1:15:50
guy is, is doing a cover for Trump, what is he going to end
1:15:55
up as he's gonna get a government job? Yes.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: He's getting a gig. Sure. I
1:15:59
John C Dvorak: have had the prediction, okay. ambassadorship
1:16:03
good. What his own choosing? Yeah,
1:16:05
Adam Curry: but what would he choose? Well, he
1:16:08
John C Dvorak: could choose India. He could really have fun
1:16:11
down there. No, he
1:16:12
Adam Curry: bought the ones you want. You want London you want
1:16:16
Paris? Paris? Yeah. You
1:16:17
John C Dvorak: don't want India John Doerr over here at Kleiner
1:16:20
Perkins was always supportive. He wanted London he always
1:16:23
various that he went to Paris. Oh, either way. And he couldn't
1:16:28
get on the wrong horse. It was too funny. Yeah. Did
1:16:31
Adam Curry: you? Did you grow? You're right. His he's like has
1:16:34
Kramer from Seinfeld hair. That's what he's got. It's
1:16:37
Kramer hair. There's something about it. It's anyway. So he's
1:16:41
styled. He's doing as I was reading People magazine, I will.
1:16:45
I'm reading USA Today. I watch Entertainment Tonight. I thought
1:16:49
this would have been crazy. But no, I would
1:16:52
Unknown: have told you that was crazy talk. Fringe conspiracy
1:16:55
theory nonsense. I can tell you now having gone somewhat deep in
1:16:59
this. It's not. I mean, the reality is this.
1:17:04
Adam Curry: Now, listen to the back and forth with him. The
1:17:08
news model from CNN, we
1:17:10
Unknown: do have a government. First of all, we have to
1:17:11
acknowledge that has lied to us systematically over the last
1:17:14
several years about the origin of COVID-19. About the Hunter
1:17:17
Biden laptop that we were told was false. Yes, my 51 CIA
1:17:21
experts and otherwise, before we now know that it was true, you
1:17:24
could go straight down the list of Trump Russia, disinformation,
1:17:27
collusion, hoax, all of it. Now we've come to January 6. The
1:17:31
reality is we know that there were federal law enforcement
1:17:34
agents in that field. We don't know how many. I think it's
1:17:36
shameful. Let me finish this answer. But
1:17:38
let me just I'm gonna go ahead and interrupt you here. Because
1:17:41
Because that the stablishment has improved.
1:17:44
Adam Curry: Federal Did you catch when he says, I know I
1:17:47
missed it. He says, Yeah, I understand. You have to
1:17:48
interrupt me because the establishment does not approve
1:17:50
this message. I get he's, he's, he's doing stick.
1:17:54
Unknown: I'm gonna go ahead and interrupt you here. Because
1:17:56
Because that establishment has approved this message. I know
1:17:58
there were federal you're saying that there were a federal
1:18:01
system. This is important.
1:18:04
Adam Curry: I think they're clapping for him and not for her
1:18:07
probably.
1:18:09
Unknown: On January. There is no evidence that there were federal
1:18:12
agents in the crowd on January. So
1:18:14
why before Congress when pressed on what the number was they
1:18:17
didn't say they were not they just couldn't
1:18:18
see them. You're saying that there's no that you have not
1:18:21
seen any evidence? We've seen more and so you've
1:18:24
seen multiple informants suggesting that there were we
1:18:26
know people we know people were FBI informants. So we're asking
1:18:28
is there any major
1:18:31
comeback question but let me clarify it was very
1:18:32
uncomfortable for I
1:18:34
Adam Curry: know it's uncomfortable for you. He's like
1:18:36
I feel bad for you. I know I understand. You have to do this.
1:18:39
I know the control rooms yelling in you. I'm so sorry
1:18:42
Unknown: to give you hard facts. And if I may I be I know this
1:18:44
can be a little uncomfortable. We're gonna we're gonna go just
1:18:46
so you can you can even put
1:18:50
Adam Curry: I'm waiting for the evidence. She was like, This is
1:18:55
gonna be great. This is my launch into a primetime show on
1:18:58
CNN where girl What is this guy doing uncomfortable,
1:19:01
Unknown: but we're gonna we're gonna go through it and you can
1:19:03
you can, you can push the evidence and you can push back
1:19:05
on that and let's do this fairly. Why did they suppress
1:19:09
footage of now what's been released 200 hours of footage of
1:19:12
shooting rubber bullets into that crowd shooting tear gas
1:19:16
into that crowd. You didn't see that before you saw what the
1:19:18
response was to that. Now you'll see footage coming out of
1:19:21
actually rolling out the red carpet for Capitol Police
1:19:24
allowing
1:19:25
Ramaswamy in again right through the front back to maturity that
1:19:30
Adam Curry: she's trying to live No, no that the vast majority of
1:19:33
that footage. Or at
1:19:37
Unknown: least the footage shows my DPS officers being over
1:19:41
talking about one more really important writers that I'm going
1:19:43
to write
1:19:47
very, I'm not sure if I can finish it. I'm not sure if
1:19:51
the samples to the country to the country sample
1:19:56
John C Dvorak: and stop it. So what you've got here Er, which
1:20:00
is the interesting part. This is supposed to be a debate between
1:20:03
the candidates.
1:20:04
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is not a debate. This is the town
1:20:06
hall.
1:20:07
John C Dvorak: This is the town hall.
1:20:09
Adam Curry: Poor lady Abby.
1:20:11
John C Dvorak: She's is she supposed to be arguing with the
1:20:14
guy?
1:20:14
Adam Curry: Yes. Because cherry pick and tell them the vast
1:20:20
majority. Tell them tell them tell them you tell them. That's
1:20:26
what's going on. That's
1:20:27
John C Dvorak: what they all want. But that's what's going
1:20:29
on. But it's that's the format? No, of
1:20:31
Adam Curry: course not. He's supposed to ask a question with
1:20:32
the guy answer. But the job now of the interviewer is to fact
1:20:37
check in real time. I know this because that's what Prof. G and
1:20:40
Kara are always talking about. They want fact checking in real
1:20:44
time. But her facts don't add up.
1:20:47
Unknown: What here's what? I'm not cherry picking. I finish it.
1:20:52
I'm not sure if the samples
1:20:53
to the country to the contract. For example. Government is what
1:20:58
government
1:20:59
was afforded. When there was 200 hours of cherry picking was the
1:21:03
government not made
1:21:04
Adam Curry: good. That's it. That's that's someone who knows
1:21:06
what he's doing. He's been trained. He
1:21:08
John C Dvorak: is quick on the draw. There's no doubt about it.
1:21:11
We've noticed that from the get go. Yeah. So he's fast on his
1:21:14
feet. Yeah. He's also been coached, obviously. I think
1:21:18
obviously. And he's been and his timing is good. Yes.
1:21:22
Adam Curry: And he's just any any, like a board physical with
1:21:25
a big plate and you know, big plank in front of his head is
1:21:29
like, just ran right through just talking right over her.
1:21:34
This.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: This explains from the beginning when we both
1:21:39
were suspicious of the guy. Why is he here? Yeah. What is he
1:21:43
doing it? And you had heard the talk, right wing talk show guy
1:21:46
say the same thing. What is this guy? Does he thinks he's good.
1:21:49
They all say the same thing. He's really good. But why is he
1:21:53
does he expect to win anything? What's going on? I think you
1:21:57
nailed it. Ambassador guy is there as a foil. And he's great.
1:22:02
And he is really good.
1:22:04
Adam Curry: And he and he sticks it all the way in and rotates,
1:22:08
and right up through the throat with this one.
1:22:11
Unknown: And let me let me just finish one thing, because this
1:22:12
is super important as well. When you think there's a civil
1:22:15
libertarian issue of our time when Richard was kidnapping. I
1:22:17
want to keep it going to be really clear on this because
1:22:19
it's the same issue the same FBI same even part of the FBI. Three
1:22:23
people who are an alleged plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, were
1:22:28
acquitted at the end of trial, because it was entrapment. That
1:22:32
is government agents put them up to do something they otherwise
1:22:35
wouldn't have done. They given credit cards with spending
1:22:38
limits of up to $5,000 Encourage them to buy munitions. Notice
1:22:41
Adam Curry: the control room hasn't. They're like they're
1:22:43
like, look this up, look this up. We got it. What is he doing?
1:22:46
It's a curveball. You're not talking about Trump and looking
1:22:48
at that we need something quick
1:22:49
Unknown: plan something they weren't otherwise willing to
1:22:51
plan. So much. So and I want people at home to know this,
1:22:54
especially CNN viewers to know this is that one of the jurors
1:22:58
went to those defendants and apologized afterwards, gave him
1:23:02
a hug. Apologize, seeing what the government had put a poor
1:23:05
guy up to who had to go to some Mexican restaurant across the
1:23:08
street to get hot water. These people were exploited with
1:23:11
credit cards up to $5,000 FBI agents, putting them up to a
1:23:15
kidnapping plot that we were told was true but wasn't
1:23:17
traveling for dancing with the Capitol police people letting
1:23:20
Ramaswamy many of those people look at government put you I did
1:23:24
something and then charge Ramaswamy
1:23:27
Adam Curry: I don't want to. I don't want to have to spank you.
1:23:31
Unknown: I don't want to. I don't want to have to interrupt
1:23:33
you. I really don't. But I don't want you to mislead the audience
1:23:37
here.
1:23:39
They've been misled by mainstream media.
1:23:42
Guys good. Guys. Good.
1:23:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, we do we start to watch him with this
1:23:47
in mind. I think we'll appreciate him more. Yeah.
1:23:51
Adam Curry: i And it dawned on me too. I'm like, Oh, okay. That
1:23:55
makes that makes sense. That's what he's there for. Totally.
1:23:58
John C Dvorak: Totally. And that's why Trump doesn't go to
1:24:00
the database. Why? What's the point? What's the point?
1:24:03
Adam Curry: And it's, but it's, it's so interesting. From a
1:24:07
media perspective, which is what we do here we deconstruct media,
1:24:11
how the media is, I mean, he doesn't even have Twitter.
1:24:15
Before he would do it on Twitter. And then oh, Trump
1:24:18
tweeted somebody and they talk about him incessantly all day
1:24:23
long and then not and he does want the on Hannity on his home
1:24:26
turf network. They can't ah, and the ol boy is going to be a
1:24:32
dictator over starting on day one they're gonna do like genius
1:24:37
genius move and then he I don't think anybody watches much of
1:24:44
the the evening talk shows. I mean, we know the only talk show
1:24:48
that people watch these days is the one I don't like you like
1:24:51
it, which is God felt.
1:24:53
John C Dvorak: I just, I just don't like me a long time.
1:24:55
Adam Curry: I don't like I don't like Tim. I don't like Brutus.
1:24:59
John C Dvorak: Whatever lame. A big rush. I
1:25:00
Adam Curry: don't know. I don't like it. It's just it watching
1:25:05
John C Dvorak: just for the occasional appearance of Emily
1:25:07
compagno.
1:25:10
Adam Curry: Yes, she's good. They write for her. Yes, we
1:25:12
discussed this. So here's Jimmy Kimmel Live, giving a full
1:25:17
minute and a half to Trump. I mean, how dumb if they're if
1:25:21
they really are operatives, they're doing a bad job. And if
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: I think your podcasting buddy nailed it, yes.
1:25:30
Adam Curry: But this is, I mean, this Trump's writing material
1:25:34
for them, and they like, Oh, this is funny. Let's use this
1:25:37
material. I mean, how can you do you really hate Trump Kimmel?
1:25:41
Seems like you want him to win while Biden
1:25:44
Unknown: and Zelinsky were busy trying to sell Congress on
1:25:47
funding for Ukraine. Our foreign president is looking for some
1:25:51
funding to
1:25:52
Hi everyone. This is your favorite president Donald J.
1:25:55
Trump with some very exciting news. My last two Trump digital
1:25:59
Trading Card Collection sold out in just hours. And now I'm back
1:26:03
with my latest series called the mug shot edition. I wonder where
1:26:07
that keeps the mug shot edition. Brilliant.
1:26:10
Adam Curry: Come on. This is brilliant. He had the stupid
1:26:13
playing cards. Now he's got the mug shot edition. But wait,
1:26:17
there's more
1:26:17
Unknown: seven all new, stunning cards. And here's the best part.
1:26:20
For the first time we're creating a real physical trump
1:26:23
card. Purchase 47 digital cards and we'll mail you a beautiful
1:26:29
trading card. It is an authentic piece of the suit I wore when I
1:26:33
took that now famous mug shot. And it was a great suit, believe
1:26:37
me a really good suit.
1:26:39
Adam Curry: This is genius. They cut up the suit. And he's giving
1:26:44
people pieces of the suit when they buy all 47 I mean, this is
1:26:49
classic direct marketing, classic comedy. And these idiots
1:26:54
are just Paul, let's play this. Let's make fun of him. This is
1:26:57
beautiful. It's all cut out.
1:27:00
Unknown: You're gonna get a peace.
1:27:02
Deal. Wow, that's these cards. So the cards cost $99 each. If
1:27:08
you buy them all 47 of them for the low low price of $4,653 plus
1:27:15
tax you will get a postage stamp sized piece of the suit he wore
1:27:19
on the day he was arrested for the fourth time. And he's
1:27:23
calling it the most historically significant artifact in United
1:27:27
States is today's isn't that said that. There are only 13
1:27:33
original copies of the Constitution. And only who knows
1:27:36
how many fabric swatches from a triple XL fat guy suit.
1:27:41
These cards pop art or modern art. I wish I looked as good as
1:27:46
I do on those cards and I can tell you they give me muscles
1:27:49
where? Believe me I don't have them.
1:27:52
We believe you. What is going on? I mean our former presidents
1:27:56
genius just reinvented Garbage Pail Kids.
1:28:00
So don't miss out go to collect Trump cards.com Go right now and
1:28:06
collect your own exclusive piece of American history and we'll
1:28:10
all have fun together. Have a good life
1:28:18
Adam Curry: I missed him in that regard. I really missed it. Oh
1:28:22
man, that's genius. Stupid morons.
1:28:26
John C Dvorak: It's too crazy to be AI.
1:28:29
Adam Curry: Oh, no, it's not it's it's not AI. It's the real
1:28:31
deal. That's him. That is him. It's so good. Ah, makes
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: view seeing the changes changing the topic. Have
1:28:42
you seen the channel one AI?
1:28:45
Adam Curry: Yeah, I saw like horrible.
1:28:48
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it was horrible at all. I have the
1:28:50
first minute of it. Click here just to play. What's
1:28:53
Adam Curry: it what's an under our channel one? Well, it
1:28:57
doesn't really work. Just audio you have to see the wooden
1:29:01
movements of the news models. Hello.
1:29:04
Unknown: Welcome to channel one. Oh, a new way of consuming
1:29:07
reporting and thinking about the news powered by artificial
1:29:11
intelligence. Today you'll witness AI generated stories and
1:29:15
headlines, captivating visuals and data driven insights. From
1:29:20
global news to finance to entertainment. We'll show you
1:29:24
how technology enables us to bring you a global perspective.
1:29:28
24/7 right from the heart of our AI native newsroom, all
1:29:33
presented by our team of AI generated reporters.
1:29:37
Maybe you hear the words artificial intelligence, and
1:29:40
you're immediately skeptical or concerned about technology gone
1:29:43
crazy. But everything you'll see on Channel One relies on trust.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: Back it up a little bit and now answer me
1:29:52
this. Why are their phones ringing in the background?
1:29:55
Adam Curry: Well, because AI determined that's what you need
1:29:57
to make it sound authentic. I'm missing that. I'm missing the
1:30:00
teletype
1:30:03
John C Dvorak: yeah teletype would probably be better you
1:30:06
know.
1:30:07
Adam Curry: Hello, welcome to AI news brought to you by no agenda
1:30:12
show this is great boy look at my arms. No not robotic at all.
1:30:17
John C Dvorak: You can you can mark this like that. But in fact
1:30:19
is, is its people should go I just tell it, you can listen to
1:30:23
Adam or you can listen to me. Channel one.ai is the website
1:30:28
and watch this. I don't think it's half bad. I think it's as
1:30:32
good as the actual network news. Then they actually have a sample
1:30:36
news show and in fact on that show, which they has real news
1:30:39
on it even though some of its dated, there's a dated piece of
1:30:42
news which I was even unaware of that you know, when they went to
1:30:45
the asteroid and grabbed some asteroid rocks with that 10 year
1:30:51
mission or however long it took to get there that the thing
1:30:54
never closed the grabber never closed completely and it rocks
1:30:59
are being left all over the space on the way back.
1:31:04
Adam Curry: I am very happy this exists because when you get
1:31:07
tired of me I can continue the show with my AI Dvorak. You
1:31:11
probably could no one will know the difference
1:31:13
John C Dvorak: MQL they'll know the difference because there's
1:31:15
no way that it can be funny. I was just
1:31:17
Adam Curry: you can sit at home and collect checks. What are you
1:31:19
waiting for? Seriously? Comic Strip blogger Can you please
1:31:23
create a JCB AI you know what, let's just start with one show a
1:31:27
week evening and do a whole show you take one show a week off and
1:31:31
then it'd be fine it's gonna be so good because AI is obviously
1:31:35
it's not that
1:31:35
John C Dvorak: bad I'm telling you this Do people don't listen
1:31:38
to him listen to go to channel A or channel one.ai which is the
1:31:43
website and I'm telling you this is as good as CBS or any of
1:31:48
these local news is still got charm noses in sloppier
1:31:52
Adam Curry: no no naked news that still has chocolate
1:31:56
John C Dvorak: you know naked news is probably still is the
1:31:58
best.
1:31:59
Adam Curry: This is pay well cares this worth it. That fine.
1:32:06
Everybody can go listen to me by
1:32:08
John C Dvorak: the way. Channel one could be channel one naked
1:32:11
they could do a naked news with it because they can't seem to
1:32:15
fight they can't do people that don't have a huge kids. So they
1:32:20
DO NAKED news but it'd be giant breasts version. Yeah,
1:32:23
Adam Curry: I'd watch that. Sure. Sure.
1:32:25
John C Dvorak: So I'm talking to JC who's in involved in AI. He
1:32:29
says that. I don't know if I mentioned this on the show
1:32:32
before but because there's so many large breasted women in the
1:32:36
porn field where they're getting a lot of their samples from the
1:32:41
AI guys can't really make women with normal sized breasts. Yet,
1:32:47
Adam Curry: this whole I mean, this is this is the business
1:32:49
model of AI. This is it. Congratulations. We've got big
1:32:52
boobs, newsreaders, Herky jerky, non throwing, not funny.
1:32:58
John C Dvorak: It's not Herky jerky. I think you're wrong.
1:33:01
Adam Curry: I just watched it. I watched the whole like, was it
1:33:04
11 minutes is boring, is boring. The guy who comes in second is
1:33:10
he keeps doing the same hand gestures, or
1:33:12
John C Dvorak: the hand gestures. I'm not gonna argue
1:33:14
the hand gestures. It's bad, because the guy's doing
1:33:18
meaningless hand gestures that don't make any sense at all. But
1:33:21
this is just the beginning. It's fine tuning this thing will
1:33:25
result in people that are terrific looking and better than
1:33:30
the real deal. Hey, I agree AI is great. It's good to rock
1:33:35
everybody.
1:33:35
Adam Curry: I need to mocking mocking it. I'm mocking it. I am
1:33:42
mocking it. Because you're because there will be a a
1:33:47
section of the public. That is all in on this. And it won't be
1:33:52
any cheaper. It won't be any cheaper for news organizations
1:33:55
to they've already.
1:33:58
John C Dvorak: Norris 12 to $14 million a year. Then
1:34:03
Adam Curry: I will start my own news channel and I'll hire Nora,
1:34:06
then it'll be better people want human beings. That's just the
1:34:10
fact except for the NPCs I mean, there's a sec but those people
1:34:14
are not worth anything. The people who are enamored by this
1:34:17
type of entertainment are not worth anything to advertisers.
1:34:21
They're just worthless people.
1:34:23
John C Dvorak: You're harsh I'm because you you I earlier in the
1:34:27
show. I said you were a hater.
1:34:29
Adam Curry: I'm an AI hater. Yes, because I think this is
1:34:32
bullcrap. I think it's there's no business model. There. This
1:34:36
is little sparkly bits that dangling in front of us. Where's
1:34:40
the channel? All right. Where's the channel? There's no actual
1:34:43
channel one that is going to do this. Where is it that where is
1:34:47
it going? Okay, it's not admitted.
1:34:52
John C Dvorak: Now already have the cast and crew
1:34:54
Adam Curry: VEC will be in London or Paris before we before
1:34:58
we have a full new channel of AI news models that people actually
1:35:03
what they can eat
1:35:04
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying that's not a pod that's only six
1:35:06
months or a year away. God it may take a couple of years Oh
1:35:10
God, people just go you go yourself and make your own
1:35:12
determination channel one.ai and check it out all right,
1:35:16
Adam Curry: well the minute that launches on AI in you and then
1:35:19
that's it and then you can take off I doubt that won't be
1:35:21
working with you will be working with your AI agent. Okay.
1:35:26
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna make sure that I don't make you have
1:35:30
to be nice. I'll
1:35:31
Adam Curry: send you checks. No problem. No. Going like, Man,
1:35:37
I'd be funnier than that stupid computer. Man, he missed a great
1:35:41
opportunity.
1:35:44
John C Dvorak: Just soft balling, just willing to miss
1:35:46
that. Speaking
1:35:47
Unknown: of AI, the European Union passed the most
1:35:51
comprehensive and they listen
1:35:54
Adam Curry: to this guy. No, no programmer would ever make this
1:35:58
guy in AI because they make him to professional. I want to hear
1:36:02
like a wispy, lispy quasi gay guy from time to time, because
1:36:08
it makes me happy to listen to a human who is different.
1:36:12
Unknown: The European Union passed the most comprehensive
1:36:16
and ambitious regulations on artificial intelligence. They
1:36:20
are the first major government to ever pass set legislations
1:36:24
and the different ways they're looking at how to monitor
1:36:26
artificial intelligence all the way from hiring practices, from
1:36:30
the court system to self driving autonomous cars. There's so much
1:36:34
things that comprehensive and what's interesting about that is
1:36:37
that they're so far ahead of the United States government.
1:36:40
Adam Curry: This is by the way is Good Morning America.
1:36:42
Unknown: You think about the dangers but let's talk about the
1:36:44
good things when it comes to AI.
1:36:46
Yeah, people look at AI for so many different reasons. Either
1:36:49
glass is half full, the glass is half empty. There's no glass,
1:36:52
the glass is half full. I don't even we love football as well to
1:36:56
as DeMarco but even look at this weekend's of our football and
1:37:00
weigh the article intelligence being used is called NFL next
1:37:03
gen stats and it's powered by neither of us was the Amazon
1:37:06
Web. Pressure probability, what does that even mean? That
1:37:13
basically means now coaches and general managers, they can
1:37:16
assess how quickly a quarterback may be sacked based upon the
1:37:21
data on the defensive lineman, but they can also to assess
1:37:25
based on the offensive lineman, how well do they do in
1:37:28
protecting the quarterback over historical period of data that
1:37:31
is presented. So even the things that we love Eva and DeMarco,
1:37:35
when it comes to football, artists intelligence is helping
1:37:38
us call the game play by play is make it more interactive, but
1:37:41
also to even has to be critiqued right, and we have to make sure
1:37:45
guardrails are in place. But we have the power as Americans get
1:37:48
into the driver's seat God challenging our elected
1:37:51
officials to look at the holistic point of view,
1:37:54
artificial intelligence. And I think that is
1:37:57
one thing that's good. And
1:38:00
Adam Curry: my, you know, my algorithms could replace this
1:38:04
guy's intelligence, but yeah, perfect. So okay, that's
1:38:07
algorithm. Everything is AI these days, everything we got an
1:38:10
email from, I'm not going to read it. But we got an email
1:38:12
from a guy who works at a big trading firm. He says, Hey, man,
1:38:16
you said there's no business model. We got a business model
1:38:19
and we have a hub pay $150,000 a year for AI in our company. I'm
1:38:23
like, Oh, this is interesting. So are you making $150 billion a
1:38:27
year with your AI trading? Well, no, we have an HR database.
1:38:31
Because you can look up HR stuff we filled it all up and we can
1:38:34
query the database so the AI give those answers where the
1:38:37
chat bot Polly's AI winter coming, AI winter coming. Peak
1:38:44
AI now AI peak AI to AI winter that you know what it's going to
1:38:49
be? They're going to pivot to coin a phrase they're going to
1:38:52
pivot to quantum computing. No, they're not Yeah, they are they
1:38:58
new work. They need a new thing that sucks up cycles, so Nvidia
1:39:02
can be even more powerful. This the only thing that's changed
1:39:07
from the from the late 80s is more faster computers. It's the
1:39:12
same dumb stuff. Symbols tokens. It's all the same stuff as lisp.
1:39:17
I'd really like
1:39:19
John C Dvorak: to get dead gag in there. Nobody gets it. By the
1:39:23
way. A
1:39:23
Adam Curry: lot of Emacs guys are going Yeah. Yeah.
1:39:27
John C Dvorak: Both of them that listen to the show. Yeah,
1:39:29
Adam Curry: man. Yeah, Emacs, Emacs. Man. Screw VI. Emacs, you
1:39:33
can do Lisp programming. Alright, let's switch to some
1:39:37
more mainstream nonsense. We are desperately trying. We are using
1:39:42
everything we can. We're using every single advertising and
1:39:45
native ad dollar we have. We need to make sure that we get
1:39:52
GLP one drugs into Medicare. I don't care how we do it. We've
1:39:59
got to get added in there, Oprah came out. And you know, Oprah is
1:40:02
co owner now of WW, which is the new name for Weight Watchers.
1:40:08
And we had the CEO of weightwatchers. On the last show
1:40:12
of the show before that, saying, We're sorry, we were wrong. Oh,
1:40:16
no, it's not about food is not about portion control. You have
1:40:21
a disease. You have a sickness, how now but you still need to
1:40:25
use us because we bought a company that will telemedicine
1:40:29
subscribe you all of these wonderful drugs, and we'll help
1:40:32
you manage it. We'll help you manage it. So the end of them so
1:40:36
Oprah did a big a big article, big interview exclusive.
1:40:42
John C Dvorak: Have you seen a lie? Have you she needs more
1:40:44
money?
1:40:44
Adam Curry: Have you seen her? I mean, she looks phenomenal.
1:40:49
Oprah defends her use of weight loss medication. Obesity is a
1:40:52
disease because she's a doctor. And this all the doctors are in
1:40:57
on this. I don't really know one that has said it outright like
1:41:00
that. But they're a little too. Chicken, I think to say it. But
1:41:05
Oprah says Obesity is a disease. It's not about willpower. It's
1:41:10
about the brain. Yes, yes. And now we've got to get it into
1:41:16
kids. And we need it on Medicare. Let's go to America's
1:41:19
most trusted doctor.
1:41:20
Unknown: That was America's favorite doctor. And there's a
1:41:22
new study out here that suggested popular weight loss
1:41:24
drugs may be safe during pregnancy. But for now, a
1:41:27
warning labels caution against the use during pregnancy and
1:41:30
consumption. So what so Another
1:41:31
week, another day another headline with these GLP one
1:41:35
agonists like we go V ozempic Manjaro. This latest study
1:41:39
published in JAMA Internal Medicine, really looking
1:41:42
retrospectively at pregnant women who were on diabetes
1:41:47
medication and how their pregnancies when whether there
1:41:50
were any risks to the fetus and the offspring. We're still in
1:41:54
the infancy pardon the pun in terms of this, because right
1:41:57
now, these drugs like ozempic are not recommended for women to
1:42:02
take during pregnancy. But we always have to err on the side
1:42:05
of caution when you're talking about what can and can not be
1:42:08
taken during pregnancy. But big picture here, we know that
1:42:12
hyperglycemia, which is elevated blood glucose levels during
1:42:16
pregnancy, really not good for the fetus. In addition to the
1:42:19
pregnant woman, we know that certain medications given to
1:42:23
people with
1:42:23
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Dr. Jen is pregnant people eat us,
1:42:27
Unknown: in addition to the pregnant woman, we know that
1:42:30
certain medications given to people with diabetes are okay
1:42:34
during pregnancy, insulin, the sulfonylureas. We have good data
1:42:38
and track record on that. But again, when you talk about risk
1:42:42
benefit, which you guys have heard, many, many times, we know
1:42:45
that there are real risks to a woman who's overweight or obese,
1:42:50
diabetic during pregnancy, to her risk to the fetus. So I
1:42:53
think we're gonna see a lot more research with this class of
1:42:56
medication that's just stimulated and triggered by the
1:43:00
popularity and use of them. So this data that you're looking at
1:43:04
now, this is just because people were taking it and then they
1:43:06
discovered the good side. I'm just so fascinated by it. People
1:43:12
are using it. That's actually how we back into a lot of data
1:43:15
when people are on the medication. And then you know,
1:43:17
we follow them for another reason. Really interesting. Very
1:43:20
Adam Curry: interesting. Okay. But you know, we really need to
1:43:22
get it into the children. I mean, we're trying to get into
1:43:24
the fetus. It was so successful with COVID. The COVID vaccines
1:43:28
were great for feet. Hi, let's go to Dr. Celine
1:43:31
Unknown: doctors and parents to in the US are now being urged to
1:43:34
take an aggressive new approach against childhood obesity. It's
1:43:38
a problem that affects nearly one in five children and teens
1:43:41
in this country. And the US Preventive Task Force clash is
1:43:44
now saying that doctors need to intervene, starting with kids as
1:43:48
young as the age of six. Dr. Celine gounder, is here to tell
1:43:52
us what parents need to know. Dr. gounder. Thank you very much
1:43:54
for being here. I understand intensive counseling is the idea
1:43:58
here. What is it? How soon should it start?
1:44:00
Adam Curry: Now this is weird, because they start with this
1:44:03
whole counseling counts. I was trying to figure this out. But
1:44:07
what are you talking about? It's a disease. Oprah said so what
1:44:12
know what, what is this counseling bit about?
1:44:14
Unknown: So we're talking about a minimum of 26 hours per year.
1:44:18
So if you break that down, that comes down to say half an hour
1:44:20
per week or an hour per week of meeting with specialists on a
1:44:24
consistent basis. So that could be everyone from a dietician to
1:44:27
a physical therapist or trainer to a mental health specialists
1:44:31
to really address what are the issues that are driving the
1:44:34
obesity?
1:44:35
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, obesity is an illness I do not
1:44:37
understand. And it started to dawn as this went a little
1:44:40
further as they brought out the racial profiling.
1:44:43
Unknown: I don't want to be negative. I'm sure any number of
1:44:46
hours would help. But if you're living all of your hours in a
1:44:49
world where you became obese, what are 26 hours going to do to
1:44:52
change the equation?
1:44:53
Well, this is a really important point because a lot of what is
1:44:55
driving this is one the culture of the community, the culture of
1:44:58
the family, how they Eat. So it's not just about addressing
1:45:01
Adam Curry: when they say culture, that's code for black
1:45:04
the child,
1:45:05
Unknown: you also need to have an environment where you have
1:45:07
access to healthy food and many communities that might come to
1:45:10
the store where they have to shop, particularly in parts of
1:45:12
the South. And then are there safe places where kids can
1:45:16
actually play an exercise in many communities that may not be
1:45:19
the case, communities
1:45:21
Adam Curry: culture, they're going after poor people, and
1:45:23
particularly poor black people, because they want it on Medicare
1:45:26
Unknown: together. The American Academy of Pediatrics also
1:45:29
released guidelines saying that 12 years old or older as a
1:45:32
suggested age, for weight loss, drugs and even surgery. I mean,
1:45:37
on the surface, that sounds kind of shocking, but But what is the
1:45:40
rationale is it because of the long term health effects that,
1:45:43
you know, curbing obesity could create? Well, this is an
1:45:45
important
1:45:46
important point, the US Preventive Services Task Force,
1:45:48
they are not recommending surgery and weight loss
1:45:51
medications, they're just recommended that recommending
1:45:54
the behavioral interventions. And I think the discrepancy in
1:45:58
some of the debate in the medical community is that we are
1:46:00
seeing people getting more and more obese adults and children,
1:46:04
we're seeing obesity start at a younger and younger age, and
1:46:06
there's this desperation to do something. Now whether it can
1:46:10
help and giving weight loss drugs to kids, you know, that
1:46:13
really remains to be seen. And they're only approved for people
1:46:17
12 And up right now. Oh,
1:46:18
Adam Curry: because Oh, drove it up.
1:46:20
Unknown: This is a good start, if people are curious about that
1:46:23
is insurance covering weight loss drugs for children
1:46:28
start covering starting at the age of 12. But many of the
1:46:31
private insurance companies are being very restrictive about
1:46:34
coverage. So it's not enough to be obese very often to get
1:46:38
expensive, right? They're very expensive drugs. And then if
1:46:41
you're on Medicaid, and most people don't realize this, the
1:46:44
majority of kids in this country are on Medicaid, nevermind
1:46:47
lawyer communities and state Medicaid programs really cannot
1:46:50
afford to be covering these for all kids.
1:46:52
Adam Curry: I can almost read the material she was given. It
1:46:55
was just like the movies. Were here comes the representative.
1:46:59
Okay, you know, but we're really this is very important because
1:47:02
you know, kids need access to this. Do you know how many
1:47:05
children most children in America on Medicaid because
1:47:07
they're poor? They're poor? And you know, black kids they know
1:47:11
they have they're more prone to diabetes, because you know, they
1:47:14
live in the only God is Dollar General now down at McDonald's,
1:47:17
I mean, come on
1:47:18
Unknown: low income families and communities are hardest hit by
1:47:20
this obesity epidemic. How do these interventions work in
1:47:23
those words? Well,
1:47:25
it's really hard you can say to somebody portion control, and
1:47:28
here's how to read food labels. And this is what you should
1:47:31
stick to fresh foods, not packaged foods. But if you can't
1:47:35
even buy that, or if it's not affordable access to time,
1:47:39
right? You don't. These are not realistic education.
1:47:42
Because all of these habits are passed down generational
1:47:44
generational
1:47:46
Adam Curry: culture,
1:47:46
Unknown: the family and culture community and that's hard to
1:47:48
change. Dr. Brower, thank
1:47:50
you so much. It's really fascinating. You
1:47:52
Adam Curry: can fasten that you can just wait for it that's
1:47:54
coming is coming is coming. This is the entire push. By the way.
1:47:58
You guys are on DH and plug you were talking about the new
1:48:01
McDonald's concept. MC cosmic I think is what it's called. I
1:48:06
think that MC cosmic is genius. I think they've launched it at
1:48:11
exactly the right time. Because it is like a crack house for
1:48:16
crack addicts and as drive thru, because you it's It's Sugar
1:48:21
Bombs, it's got. It's got colors, it's got crazy names.
1:48:26
It's highly TIG talkable. And we don't have to worry about it
1:48:30
because just go get a shot. He just go get a shot. Just go get
1:48:33
a shot. Now. I think
1:48:35
John C Dvorak: we indicated this to our Well, I don't think we
1:48:38
really thought it was genius by any means. But
1:48:41
Adam Curry: I think McDonald's for the win. If I was an
1:48:44
investing man, I'd invest in McDonald's, not advice. Now we
1:48:48
do have a little problem. We have a little bit of a problem
1:48:52
because this is just GLP one stuff. As you know, this is a
1:48:57
generic PE you don't necessarily need the ozempic will go P
1:49:02
brands. You can get it at your pharmacy you can have a compound
1:49:05
and this is this is a problem. So Sanjay Sanjay Yeah, we want
1:49:12
you to do a report. We're gonna have it we're gonna give you the
1:49:15
exclusive. But we're gonna have we're gonna Dr. Jen's gonna roll
1:49:18
it out too. So you might as well roll it out
1:49:20
Unknown: first. Sanjay was in control centers across the
1:49:23
country, so they're seeing a 15 100% increase in people
1:49:26
accidentally overdosing uninjected Weight Loss drugs.
1:49:29
15 100% CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay
1:49:33
Gupta joins us wait wait, are there
1:49:36
John C Dvorak: real numbers here because 15 100% means you can go
1:49:39
from one to two is like 1,000% or 100%. Well, we went I went to
1:49:44
15 I mean, you know it's never been reported before that just a
1:49:48
percentage numbers useless. We need numbers do they get they
1:49:51
give them nevermind. I'm sure they give them yes,
1:49:53
Adam Curry: they do. Actually 2% of the American public is taking
1:49:56
these drugs 2% of them American public is taking these drugs,
1:50:01
people and they're laid off injecting. Listen to the report.
1:50:05
Sanjay is rolling it out. He's got the exclusive poisoned
1:50:08
people
1:50:08
Unknown: accidentally overdosing on injected weight loss drugs.
1:50:11
15 100%. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta
1:50:15
joins us now, Sanjay, are these all connected? Why is this
1:50:19
happening with this, this is kind of amazing. If you look at
1:50:21
just the number of prescriptions that have gone out there, it's
1:50:25
skyrocketed. Most of these drugs have only been around a few
1:50:27
years now. But just take a look at sort of what's happened over
1:50:30
the past few years, close to 2% of the population of this
1:50:33
country has been prescribed this medication at some point. That's
1:50:37
that's, that's shocking. I mean, these are huge. And obviously,
1:50:40
even around the world, this is prescribed a lot. As you
1:50:43
prescribe more and more, you're not surprised to get more and
1:50:45
more sort of accidental poisonings, overdoses, things
1:50:49
like that. But I want to show you something else that I think
1:50:51
is important here, you started to see the numbers go up in
1:50:54
March of 2022. All the shortages started happening. And what
1:50:57
happened as a result, pharmacies came in and they started making
1:51:00
their own, they started making their own compounded sort of
1:51:03
versions of this that were not tested for safety and efficacy.
1:51:06
And you started to see the poisoning rates go up at that
1:51:08
point as well. So that may be part of this.
1:51:13
Adam Curry: Don't take that stuff. You might die. Don't take
1:51:17
the stuff from your pharmacy is poison. It's unbelievable.
1:51:25
John C Dvorak: Well, there's been a war against compounding
1:51:27
pharmacies for as long as we've been doing the show. Yes. But
1:51:31
Adam Curry: this is clearly and squarely targeting, you know,
1:51:37
any alternative to
1:51:41
John C Dvorak: $1,000 Compared to 20? Yes.
1:51:44
Adam Curry: Something like that. Yeah. People turn off what
1:51:50
John C Dvorak: is by the way, do they describe in his crappy
1:51:52
report, the symptoms of overdosing on these things? Yes.
1:51:56
Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't cut that. But yeah,
1:51:58
John C Dvorak: I would just say what it was, oh,
1:52:01
Adam Curry: literally puking diarrhea, painting your gut
1:52:05
this. To me, that's all the features of this stuff. Is the
1:52:09
poisoning is the same as the actual results of taking it. In
1:52:16
general. Yeah, it was it was stupid. And then it's like,
1:52:21
well, you know, the half life of this stuff is two weeks. So you
1:52:24
know, if you if you OD on it, you can't just stop not like
1:52:27
getting your stop up. Be cute. Puking for weeks. Yeah, yeah.
1:52:35
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna change topics.
1:52:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.
1:52:38
John C Dvorak: Let's start there. So I'm watching the
1:52:40
interview with the industry. This is one of those like mini
1:52:45
deconstructions with Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones.
1:52:50
Adam Curry: Oh, I actually texted with him about this. So
1:52:55
John C Dvorak: you texted who? Alex? What did he say?
1:52:58
Adam Curry: No, I texted him. I said, he does a great job on
1:53:01
Tucker. And he said, I can tell you what he said. He said, What
1:53:07
is it? He said something like I can I just got to look at my
1:53:16
text. Alex. Yes, here it is. He said, The tide is turning across
1:53:24
the spectrum.
1:53:28
John C Dvorak: Well, that's interesting. So it did get him
1:53:30
back on Twitter. I'm pretty sure that triggered it because he
1:53:33
made a big fuss about that. But I just caught a couple of things
1:53:37
that I thought were interesting. And the first one is in clip one
1:53:42
is very short. And I want to ask, I'll ask you about it
1:53:46
because I was confused by it. Here we go.
1:53:49
Unknown: When you got D platformed. it to this day, no
1:53:52
one has ever been more aggressively censored. I don't
1:53:54
think then you have I have apologized in person before I
1:53:58
was in Labrador on a fishing trip and missed the entire thing
1:54:01
was literally out of cell range. Yes.
1:54:06
John C Dvorak: He says I apologize to you. Yeah. What it
1:54:12
Why is he apologizing? Did he do it? I mean, I can say I was I
1:54:19
had condolences. Maybe or I felt bad about it, because this
1:54:23
happened could have been anybody. But why is he
1:54:25
apologizing specifically?
1:54:28
Adam Curry: I believe having seen this interview, which I
1:54:33
have heard a lot of people say wow, you know, I he was a lot
1:54:36
more sane than I expected him. Oh, he's
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: always good. Jones has always been good on
1:54:40
these interviews.
1:54:41
Adam Curry: I think it's because Tucker says somewhere in this
1:54:46
like no one came to your defense. No, that's
1:54:48
John C Dvorak: the next clip. I've
1:54:49
Adam Curry: got that too. That comes right after it. Well, that
1:54:51
doesn't. That's what it was about that. He apologize not
1:54:54
that he was going to do it per se but he he felt like it. He
1:54:58
was out of the loop. He was literally Out of cell range in
1:55:01
Labrador fishing.
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but but at that point he needed to what's
1:55:07
the apology for? I don't know coming to your defense is one
1:55:11
thing hide by you know what are you apologizing for not coming
1:55:15
to your defense he would have said hold
1:55:17
Adam Curry: on let me text Tucker the hell you text hugger.
1:55:22
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go with the second part is got
1:55:24
another little ditty in here, which is at the very end, which
1:55:27
is like I didn't know this was going on. I
1:55:29
Unknown: didn't know what happened. But I got back and I
1:55:31
was and I read about it. I felt like it was a major moment in
1:55:34
the history of American media. I don't think anybody defended
1:55:37
you. When that happened. Anybody with any kind of audience
1:55:40
for me when Tim Cook admitted that he met on the weekend in
1:55:44
August 2017, with the other big tech heads, and they made the
1:55:47
decision to curate like, it's a museum and take me off. It was
1:55:51
hundreds of platforms. I mean, it wasn't just all the big ones
1:55:54
that was everything from LinkedIn, to our bank accounts
1:55:56
being taken away to everything and suing that week and over the
1:56:00
next month. And I knew that I was a test case and I wasn't
1:56:04
taken off those platforms for any demonstrable reason. It was
1:56:09
the questioning the school shooting thing that came later,
1:56:13
they went and kind of dredge that up from my past just
1:56:15
questioning and a few times, blew that up after I've been D
1:56:18
platformed. And said I was the platform for that. But we
1:56:21
checked the record. I wasn't. And so once they D platforming
1:56:25
it made the show in ways only get bigger, but people actually
1:56:28
going to infowars.com and find me on local radio stations and
1:56:31
things. So then they panic and said, Okay, let's look at his
1:56:34
record and create more of a reason. These big taken off. So
1:56:37
they took things out of context from five, six years before blew
1:56:40
them up as a current thing out of context. And deceptively
1:56:44
reported on what I've said, to create a straw man argument to
1:56:47
them facilitate the reason
1:56:48
what's so crazy is if you asked just a cross section of
1:56:51
Americans, who's responsible for the Sandy Hook massacre of kids
1:56:56
at the school, no one remembers the name of the murderer, Adam
1:56:59
Lanza. Okay, thank you. I didn't remember Alex Jones, you they
1:57:04
effectively blamed you for a school shooting that you were
1:57:06
not President, I have people
1:57:07
coming up to me in the parking lot. You can ask my security
1:57:10
guy. He's been there when people walk up and get Waje kill those
1:57:12
kids. And you know, I didn't kill those kids. And they go,
1:57:15
Yeah, you did. And so that is what this has turned into. Okay.
1:57:21
John C Dvorak: I find it very peculiar that the public at
1:57:24
large. Is that dumb to think that Alex Jones killed the kids
1:57:28
at Sandy Hook? And I believe he's probably telling the truth.
1:57:34
Security Guard is in the studio. True
1:57:36
Adam Curry: as well. I think it's true as well. Yes, people
1:57:40
are very, you know, remember, just like Vivec they're sitting
1:57:44
at home reading People Magazine reading Oprah. Now Oprah is on
1:57:48
this on this shot. I should get on it with my fat ass. This is
1:57:51
good. The Alex Jones? Well, I'll give you an example of why
1:57:57
people believe this kind of why, why they believe that stuff. And
1:58:02
I have some some thoughts about all this. This is Piers Morgan
1:58:06
on the Alex Jones being back on x. Oh,
1:58:10
Unknown: passionate defender of free speech. There's a massive
1:58:13
clue in the name of the show uncensored, and I believe in it.
1:58:16
I believe that all honestly held opinions. However offensive they
1:58:19
are belong in the open, where they can be challenged, debated
1:58:23
and exposed. But there are limits on free speech. There are
1:58:26
laws and there is a line.
1:58:29
Adam Curry: I love that. I believe in free speech. But
1:58:31
there's a line.
1:58:33
Unknown: I've always said that Alex Jones is a perfect example
1:58:35
of where that line got crossed. He's a conspiracy theorist and
1:58:39
shock jock in America made hundreds of millions of dollars
1:58:43
by peddling outrageous lies at the Sandy Hook School massacre
1:58:48
shooting was a hoax. For the uninitiated. This is him
1:58:52
shouting at me. A week after that massacre on CNN.
1:58:55
The tyrants did it. Hitler took the guns. Stalin took the guns
1:58:59
mounted the guns. Fidel Castro took the guns, though. Chavez
1:59:02
took the guns, and I'm here to tell you 1776. Again, if you try
1:59:07
to take our firearms doesn't matter how many lemmings you get
1:59:10
out there on the street begging for him to have their guns
1:59:12
taken? We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?
1:59:17
He kind of won that debate, actually, because the only
1:59:20
response in America to the Sandy Hook massacre was to do nothing.
1:59:24
In fact, they continue to sell a lot more guns. A million new
1:59:27
guns get sold in America every month. And they're already over
1:59:31
400 million in circulation. So if you're wondering if you're
1:59:34
curious why there are so many more mass shootings in America
1:59:37
than they used to be. That's why and if you're wondering what's
1:59:40
going to happen in the next few years as a million new guns into
1:59:44
circulation, and nothing gets done to stop mass shootings. My
1:59:49
guess is there'll be a lot more mass shootings.
1:59:50
Adam Curry: So there you go. So Piers Morgan makes it about Alex
1:59:54
Jones equals mass shootings in America. This is because of this
1:59:58
by the way, Peter Here's Morgan I believe the guy who was
2:00:02
partially if not fully responsible for spying on dead
2:00:05
people's phones and getting their voicemails and publishing
2:00:09
them. Today a horrible man. But there's something else going on
2:00:15
here. And you know, I don't like Elon Musk. I don't trust him. I
2:00:19
think he's full of crap. He's not an inventor. He's a
2:00:23
marketing guy, a very good one. He's part of a cabal with Roelof
2:00:27
Botha, who is now the CEO of Sequoia Capital. I've seen these
2:00:32
guys in action. I was at the launch of the very first Tesla
2:00:35
Roadster when he bought it. I went there with Ray lane. The
2:00:38
whole thing is creepy AF. And he now he single handedly launched
2:00:47
the bull crap, electrified revolution. And I don't care how
2:00:53
cool the cybertruck is engineered this not a good thing
2:00:58
for the world. He has effectively Skynet. Now we all
2:01:06
joke about oh, Skynet. He has Skynet. He has a company that
2:01:11
will bore tunnels for the elites to escape through. He has the
2:01:16
next generation of jacking into your brain with neural net none
2:01:20
of that in any other world where he was free speech. This guy
2:01:25
would be no good. But we're all enamored with him Tony Stark,
2:01:29
the whole thing. It's beautiful marketing is perfect. So then he
2:01:33
does this thing. It's set up by of all people. Laura Loomer
2:01:38
actually was a part of this. They set up the spaces. And
2:01:42
that's where Alex Jones was reintroduced to x and Elon Musk
2:01:48
that I don't include any of this, believe me, he comes out
2:01:51
with this whole thing. Well, I went back into Twitter records.
2:01:54
And the reason you were banned was not for anything you said
2:01:57
about Sandy Hook. The reason you were banned is because you
2:01:59
assaulted Oliver Darcy, you assaulted a journalist and
2:02:03
that's why you were banned. And then he goes into this whole
2:02:06
thing at Musk is I mean, the whole thing is full of crap. And
2:02:11
all these people start to jump in on what I call the info
2:02:15
Mavericks. Or maybe we should call them the truth warriors.
2:02:20
Laura Loomer upfront who kept trying to jump in. Yeah, Alex,
2:02:24
when you and I were there, we said we got right and Jack
2:02:26
Dorsey's face. And so they start cutting Laura Loomer off because
2:02:30
she's annoying. Laura Loomer is annoying. And she just keeps
2:02:34
jumping in and they were cutting her off and then she's all
2:02:36
leaves in a huff. And they bring in all these other people but
2:02:39
there's, there's the there's the guy who was in hungry, whatever,
2:02:42
wherever you live, what's his name Tate that he comes in, and
2:02:46
then Vivec jumps in, and all these people are all jumping in.
2:02:50
This is the new mainstream media and Elon Musk is in charge of
2:02:55
this. He is the hero beware of false idols. Beware of false
2:02:59
idols. Here's a Jake Tapper on the on what happened here? Let
2:03:04
me see. Do I want this one? No, I don't want that long. I get
2:03:06
this one
2:03:07
Unknown: says Alex Jones account has been restored. Now it's not
2:03:12
just up there. It's actively being promoted across the
2:03:15
platform.
2:03:16
That's right, Jake. Yeah, I'm Alex Jones. It looks like he's
2:03:19
he's actually grown his audience by about 100,000 followers just
2:03:23
being since put back on the platform, our colleague Claire
2:03:26
Duffy, reporting that people have opened up x the Twitter app
2:03:31
today. Even if they haven't followed Jones, a lot of people
2:03:34
have been saying that in the algorithmic feed that promotes
2:03:37
accounts suggesting to people that they should follow Jones's
2:03:42
account. That is, of course, five years after he was
2:03:45
initially kicked off the platform. And really, you know,
2:03:48
I think this is just so illustrative of what we're
2:03:51
seeing happen with x, but also with Elon Musk, because he kind
2:03:55
of journeys very publicly down this rabbit hole of conspiracy
2:04:00
theories, Jake. So
2:04:02
Adam Curry: this is a launch by Elon Musk. It's a launch and
2:04:07
He's launching something really big. And I think we have to be
2:04:10
very careful. I mean, Alex is Alex and he's a sweetheart. He
2:04:14
was dropped on his head, his baby, that's actually true. So
2:04:17
he does have some brain day he'd be the first to tell you that.
2:04:20
But he's basically a sweetheart and he's more right than he's
2:04:23
wrong. In many things. I don't think he's part of any
2:04:27
gatekeeping community but Elon Musk is and he's building up a
2:04:31
whole bunch of people around him and they're willing participants
2:04:34
they're all I mean, it's Megyn Kelly it's bond Gino, it's all
2:04:38
these people and they're distracting everybody into this
2:04:41
audio visual Twitter world of like Tim Poole stuff it's it's
2:04:47
creepy
2:04:47
Unknown: Yeah, he's he's not even just bring this the account
2:04:51
back. He's playing a role in elevating Alex Jones account
2:04:54
last night he hosted this x live stream interview with with him
2:05:00
and a whole bunch of other questionable folks were were
2:05:04
joining him Andrew Tate, this misogynistic internet
2:05:07
personality who was indicted on human trafficking and rape
2:05:10
charges in remote Romania earlier this year. And to be
2:05:13
completely frank Dhoni, Tate wasn't even the worst dude in
2:05:17
that conversation. What? Why is Musk even engaging with these
2:05:20
people? Yeah. And
2:05:22
look, I mean, I think you showed there that tweet, as you pointed
2:05:26
out, very human tweet from Musk last year, where he said, Look,
2:05:29
what, what Alex Jones said, there was so false and
2:05:33
disgusting about Sandy Hook, that he would never get back on
2:05:37
the platform. Because of that. You've now seen that over the
2:05:40
past year, Musk, you know, kind of going further and further and
2:05:45
further to the fringe even up to a few weeks ago, agreeing with a
2:05:50
anti semitic posts, which he later tried to clarify and did a
2:05:53
trip to Israel and things like that. But you know, I've spent a
2:05:57
lot of the past few years speaking to people who have gone
2:06:01
down rabbit holes of radicalization theories and
2:06:04
speak to families of Oh, who have loved ones. And it is quite
2:06:09
reminiscent of that when you see that, of course, but in this
2:06:12
case, it is one of the most powerful and one of the
2:06:16
wealthiest men in the world. And he's promoting these people. And
2:06:19
I will just say that that audio stream you mentioned, on last
2:06:22
check, it had 11 million people 11 million listeners. Now, of
2:06:25
course, numbers online can be a little deceiving, but needless
2:06:29
to say, millions of people now have access to this junk.
2:06:36
Adam Curry: Yes, people love the junk. Go I have a very bad
2:06:39
feeling about this. I really do. This is this is this is a
2:06:45
distraction is being set up. It's like follow the plan, trust
2:06:49
the plan. Now a storm is coming, which is what the Bolsheviks
2:06:54
said all the time.
2:06:59
John C Dvorak: It was what was that message? Jones said back to
2:07:01
you again.
2:07:03
Adam Curry: He said I want to get it verbatim. He said the tie
2:07:13
again here is he said The tide is turning across the spectrum.
2:07:23
And now there is a tide is turning because things are
2:07:28
starting to eat themselves the wokeness in companies I mean
2:07:32
stuff is coming out things are definitely changing. But I don't
2:07:36
trust this group. I just I and musk at the helm. And then like
2:07:40
and he's like, Oh, I shall I shall reinstate you ping. I will
2:07:44
wave my made magic fairy wand and you're back and good to go.
2:07:48
I don't and I'll and Tucker is also probably a part of this.
2:07:52
And it's not like a secret society. But you know, what is
2:07:55
Tucker doing? He's back with that. Whistleblower on the UFOs.
2:08:00
Oh, boy. Yeah, I'm very good. He went on redacted which please
2:08:05
don't send me clips from redacted. I'm not interested in
2:08:08
redacted. And Tucker did an interview on redacted because we
2:08:12
know Clayton and Natalie Morris. I personally Yeah, personally,
2:08:16
I'm not impressed. What are they doing in Portugal? Roche.
2:08:21
They're pro television people. You train Natalie. So yeah,
2:08:24
they're pros. And I don't know about that guy do I do. But
2:08:29
Tucker goes on there. And it's like, let me tell you the thing
2:08:31
I'm most worried about is UFO. So it's really you know, the
2:08:34
government's holding stuff back and dude, no, no. So I I'm this
2:08:44
is this is a weird
2:08:46
John C Dvorak: issue too.
2:08:47
Adam Curry: Yes. What's your issue? What's your issue?
2:08:51
John C Dvorak: I think Tucker's, you know, well, we always have
2:08:54
to remember anyone who says they wanted to be a spy for the CIA
2:08:59
probably is one. It's like a friend of mine, Gina Smith, who
2:09:06
has been on television she has been around. She told me about
2:09:10
the whole thing where the CIA approached her while she was in
2:09:13
college because she was in journalism. And she did laid out
2:09:16
the whole thing about can you work for us? You don't really
2:09:19
you're not really working for us but we'll send you a check every
2:09:21
so often we're going to have to call you because sometimes we
2:09:24
need to make some this was recently Yeah, we have to get a
2:09:30
certain kind of a message out we needed to be consolidated it
2:09:33
really they really said
2:09:35
Adam Curry: it like that. Pretty much Wow.
2:09:38
John C Dvorak: And she wasn't going to be working for the
2:09:40
agency but she was going to be in touch.
2:09:45
Adam Curry: How come I don't get that call? If I never got the
2:09:47
call. I got family in the CIA and I didn't get that call.
2:09:52
John C Dvorak: But you yourself said that they don't
2:09:55
Adam Curry: you know, what is it? They didn't they never liked
2:09:57
the drugs. I think it was the day don't like
2:09:59
John C Dvorak: drugs and like draws like a key thing in your
2:10:02
day when drinkers, they like drinkers. drinkers is good.
2:10:05
Yeah. So she went on and on about this and and I always
2:10:11
thought, Okay, I'll remember that. And I was there. Of
2:10:15
course, I don't know what the criteria is. There's probably
2:10:18
one specific. And I think talker is one of these guys. And I
2:10:23
think the other one wants to be in the CIA or wanted to be made
2:10:28
a big fuss about it is Kara Swisher Kara. And there's
2:10:32
others. There's a bunch of them. It's usually the funny thing
2:10:35
about this is always on the wiki page, which is to Me a tell
2:10:40
that's designed for people in the know to spot and say, oh,
2:10:43
okay, that's, we know which side you're on. Yeah, I think it's
2:10:47
put there on purpose.
2:10:48
Adam Curry: You know, we may not we may get things wrong a lot.
2:10:51
We may be full of crap. But I think we're more trustworthy
2:10:57
than what's going on here. This is not good. This is not what
2:11:01
Elon is doing. At the idolatry that is taking place around
2:11:06
everything he does. And Eli's neck deep and government
2:11:09
contract. That's all that he doesn't. And why so Okay, so Ha,
2:11:13
boy, we'll we'll make your cars look bad for a moment here.
2:11:16
Yeah, you know, we'll, we'll we'll make a dei problem out of
2:11:22
out of your hiring practices at SpaceX, but not a single
2:11:25
contract is cancelled. In fact, he's, he he's only sold more
2:11:29
Starlink. To military. And he doesn't really cop to it either.
2:11:35
That's why he was in in Israel. He was selling Starlink.
2:11:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why he was there was doing it wasn't
2:11:41
an Apollo no sales sales
2:11:43
Adam Curry: call. It was a sales call. So then when you know,
2:11:46
when you get this question here, last clip?
2:11:48
Unknown: Yeah, it's we should also know, Jones offenses are
2:11:51
there more than just the Sandy Hook campaign, which was vile
2:11:55
enough in and of itself. But, you know, he had a lot of files
2:11:58
that the insurrection on January 6, who are charged with serious
2:12:00
crimes, and one wonders, is Elon Musk trying to chase normal
2:12:06
people off x, is he trying to chase advertisers away even more
2:12:11
than he already has?
2:12:13
I mean, I think the conventional wisdom here would say, you know,
2:12:15
this is going to push advertisers away, it certainly
2:12:18
is going to be very interesting what major brands, like
2:12:21
including the NFL are going to do as this platform continues to
2:12:24
seemingly descend. But let's not forget, there is a lot of money
2:12:28
in bullshit as well, right? I mean, we saw this through the
2:12:32
Jones trial, how he made a lot of money. And if you really tap
2:12:36
into this world, along with Tucker Carlson and General
2:12:40
Michael Flynn and others, people who who are taking kind of park
2:12:43
now in this new X community, that can potentially be quite
2:12:47
lucrative, and potentially, that's the direction Musk wants
2:12:51
to go a lot
2:12:52
of money and a lot of votes, a
2:12:55
Adam Curry: lot of votes. Hey, okay.
2:12:58
John C Dvorak: A lot of vote. Yep. Oh, by the way, code word,
2:13:03
left wing code, word assignment. A certain side of things is
2:13:06
vile. Oh, is
2:13:07
Adam Curry: that a code word? Vile?
2:13:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've noticed that for it. Because I
2:13:11
told people that and they use it all the time. They file vile
2:13:14
about me. Thank you. It's like a secret handshake,
2:13:18
Adam Curry: where you say via what you guys said bullshit on
2:13:20
the air that's new that used to be like that. I used to be a no,
2:13:24
no. See, I had one other thing that I was meaning to play from.
2:13:29
Oh, yes. So anyway, it stinks. The whole thing stinks. I'm sure
2:13:38
that you know, the the whole idea is get as many people on X
2:13:43
believing and all in all Elans get Flynn was also on that call.
2:13:48
I mean, I hate to say it, but my neighbor, you know, she's
2:13:51
another one of them. I'm just like, you know, let's all go
2:13:54
crazy about this one particular thing, this one particular
2:13:57
topic. Let's all focus on that today. That's we're supposed to
2:14:01
be looking at it meanwhile, who is your neighbor, Laura Logan.
2:14:06
And meanwhile, Pfizer just gets thrown into the NDA and we're
2:14:10
all talking about Obama being racist. Do you see you see the
2:14:13
pattern? That's that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing like everyone
2:14:16
talks about Obama's a racist, but meanwhile, it's like oh,
2:14:20
China, China, Korea, Iran, Iran, Iran Hall got back home and you
2:14:24
Oh, space. Oh, space. We need more money for space for
2:14:28
defense. And then oh, by the way, no one's talking about the
2:14:32
FISA being extended. Renewed right there in the bill, except
2:14:37
for Matt gates on C span.
2:14:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and everyone thinks he's nuts. Yeah,
2:14:43
he's a child molester.
2:14:44
Adam Curry: That's and who's out there calling him a horrible
2:14:47
person. Laura Loomer. She's on Twitter going mad gay. It's it's
2:14:51
common. Yeah, we're gonna you're gonna learn about him. She's
2:14:56
this what she's doing all day long and she's she's kind of
2:14:59
like the ugly step step sister of this of this group, like, Oh,
2:15:04
I'm gonna let her in, because she has Alex's number, but she's
2:15:08
annoying. cut her off. cut her off. Cut all of them off.
2:15:15
John C Dvorak: Okay, all right. Hey, H topics again.
2:15:18
Adam Curry: Yep. Do you want to hear the OP want to hear the OP,
2:15:21
John C Dvorak: there's an OP,
2:15:21
Adam Curry: there's an OP, the OP is moving to Harvard. If
2:15:24
Unknown: you're a Swifty, you'll probably like this course. If
2:15:26
you're a fan of Taylor Swift and literature, you'll probably love
2:15:29
it. You can learn a lot from Taylor Swift and earn credits
2:15:35
for it this spring at Harvard. It's a literature
2:15:37
John C Dvorak: course. And it has a lot of songs and
2:15:40
songwriting.
2:15:41
Unknown: The course is the brainchild of Harvard English
2:15:43
professor Stephanie Byrd. It's called Taylor Swift in her world
2:15:46
and will focus on the songwriters, lyrics and creative
2:15:49
composition and how they're connected to other page based
2:15:52
poets and authors,
2:15:53
John C Dvorak: you know, William Wordsworth and Samuel Taylor
2:15:55
Coleridge, who wrote some of their poems in the Lake
2:15:58
District, which Taylor has visited and has song about the
2:16:03
class
2:16:04
Unknown: is also a chance to study how swift employs video,
2:16:07
her social media and stage presence and even couture as
2:16:10
vehicles for her art. News of the course is already blowing up
2:16:14
social media, an estimated 300 students have already enrolled,
2:16:18
I think
2:16:18
it's really important to include music or culture into normal
2:16:23
pedagogies to get students engaged.
2:16:26
Adam Curry: I think it would be really cool and to connect like
2:16:28
different subjects to her music at the end of the day, I
2:16:31
Unknown: mean, there's a reason people want to have a course on
2:16:33
it. So after discussion,
2:16:35
John C Dvorak: I love that I'm able to do this in a way that
2:16:40
both gives people the chance to study and write about things
2:16:45
they already love. All right, and not
2:16:47
Adam Curry: just flip at Harvard, John at Harvard.
2:16:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's where it belongs. Wow. Actually,
2:16:58
you're better songs which are few and far between. She didn't
2:17:01
even write but okay. I have a while fraud story from NTD. That
2:17:08
is worth playing. Okay, let's
2:17:10
Adam Curry: do it. A new poll
2:17:11
Unknown: shows one in five male and voters committed some kind
2:17:14
of election fraud in 2020. Former President Trump is now
2:17:18
commenting suggesting this backs up his years old claim of
2:17:21
widespread fraud and today's area and past our spoke with the
2:17:25
pollster. A
2:17:26
new Heartland Rasmussen poll found that 21% of male in voters
2:17:30
admitted to filling out a ballot for somebody else in the 2020
2:17:34
presidential election. 10% of all respondents said they know
2:17:38
somebody who admitted to casting a mail in ballot fraudulently,
2:17:42
and 8% of likely voters said they've been offered the pay or
2:17:45
something else for voting. Now almost half of all 2020 votes
2:17:49
were cast by mail the most ever in US history. Consider
2:17:53
how close the 2020 election was.
2:17:55
This is extremely troubling. Jim Lakely
2:17:58
is the vice president of the Heartland Institute, which
2:18:01
conducted the poll. He said they expected that maybe 5% of Malin
2:18:05
voters would admit to some kind of voter fraud, and that they
2:18:08
were shocked when they saw the number was over 20% Former
2:18:12
President Trump took to social media commenting on the poll,
2:18:16
writing this is the biggest story of the year, and
2:18:18
Republicans must do something about it. Now lately told me
2:18:22
that some states did actually have reasonable safety measures
2:18:25
in place when it comes to mail in voting, but that those were
2:18:29
abandoned during the COVID pandemic. He also says that
2:18:32
people are now being discouraged from talking about potential
2:18:35
voter fraud in the 2020 election, but that Americans,
2:18:39
including Democrats have routinely questioned the
2:18:41
election results in the past, for example, when George Bush
2:18:44
won against John Kerry, or Trump's 2016 win,
2:18:48
yet suddenly in 2020, when everybody can see with their own
2:18:52
eyes, that our election system has been thrown into complete
2:18:55
chaos. That is the only election in which it is not proper to
2:18:59
question whether the regional results are legitimate. There
2:19:02
was no suppressing of those sorts of ideas and thoughts for
2:19:06
every other presidential election
2:19:08
since the year 2000.
2:19:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, isn't it interesting that all we can talk
2:19:12
about is Alex Jones back on x.
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: When Nobody's talking about this story? No, of
2:19:17
Adam Curry: course not. That's no, that's my point. Where's
2:19:20
Megyn? Kelly on the story? Where's Tucker on this story?
2:19:24
Where are these people on the story? No.
2:19:26
John C Dvorak: Where do I get it from?
2:19:28
Unknown: In TNT if
2:19:30
John C Dvorak: nobody listens to them?
2:19:32
Adam Curry: Indeed, yes.
2:19:35
John C Dvorak: I just found this to be like a wow story. And it
2:19:38
was like what this is the most impressed story, because it does
2:19:42
bring into question. I mean, this whole mail in balloting, we
2:19:45
know and has been reports has been studies and Advancers I
2:19:48
think goes way back into the 70s that it was always considered a
2:19:51
very bad idea because it was so easily corruptible. Here. They
2:19:54
come up with some some survey shows it was corrupted. Nobody
2:19:59
wants to hear about it. Well forget it. And Trump, by the
2:20:02
way, saying, Oh, the Republicans should do something about it is
2:20:05
a real laugh for
2:20:08
Adam Curry: him. But no, but the point is, both Republicans and
2:20:12
Democrats employ these tactics. They both they both they have to
2:20:17
this is going this coming election is going to be who's
2:20:20
going to cheat the best. It's obvious. That's why there's
2:20:24
there's no torque wash. We've been doing this in Florida for a
2:20:28
long time. We don't want anyone to learn how we do it. Like
2:20:33
John C Dvorak: California is worse than Florida. There's no
2:20:34
question in my mind about that.
2:20:36
Adam Curry: By the way, this, this product is special
2:20:39
prosecutor Jack Smith. Who's the guy who's going after Trump?
2:20:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:20:46
Adam Curry: it'd be his love looking gun. Yeah. Well, his
2:20:49
background is starting to come up a little bit. And the
2:20:52
allegation is that while he was at the International Criminal
2:20:56
Court, he was part of like big campaigns with 10s if not
2:21:03
hundreds of millions of euros slash dollars. With bribery
2:21:09
money, Hey, you want me to not prosecute, prosecute you better?
2:21:12
You better send me $10 million in Bitcoin. I love the Bitcoin
2:21:16
part. There's a whistleblower John Moynihan. He filed a
2:21:22
complaint with the Department of Justice inspector general's
2:21:24
office on November 28, alleging Jack Smith, special prosecutor
2:21:28
pursuing Donald Trump was engaged in extortion. That's the
2:21:31
word extortion scheme while he was working at the International
2:21:34
Court of Justice
2:21:38
John C Dvorak: was another story I haven't seen on CBS. That's a
2:21:42
good story. I'd like to get destroyed. This was floating
2:21:45
around even though I got it from him. Yeah, I think this is it.
2:21:48
This is the Trump twist on the Trump case. Turning
2:21:53
Unknown: now to some court actions former President Trump
2:21:55
catches a break US District Judge Tanya Chutkan. Today
2:21:59
halted all proceedings in his federal election case. Trump is
2:22:03
appealing to have the case dismissed on grounds of
2:22:05
presidential immunity, that decision could potentially lead
2:22:09
to a significant delay in all future proceedings. But Judge
2:22:13
Chutkan said that it doesn't necessarily cancel the pre trial
2:22:16
deadlines. As of now, prosecutors are urging Chutkan
2:22:20
to stay on track and keep the march 4 trial date in place to
2:22:25
speed things up. Special Counsel Jack Smith is hoping to skip the
2:22:28
appeals court and instead let the Supreme Court hear the case.
2:22:32
Despite the temporary pause Chutkan noted that the gag order
2:22:36
is still in effect. Yeah,
2:22:38
Adam Curry: this is this is in the news. This? I have seen
2:22:41
this.
2:22:43
John C Dvorak: So yeah, it's hard to understand what's
2:22:46
actually going on? Well,
2:22:48
Adam Curry: it seems like the Supreme Court will have some say
2:22:51
over this. And I think the point is that the dates that Jack
2:22:55
Smith wants in March, you know, to start all this to make sure
2:22:59
they put them behind bars before the election. That seems like
2:23:03
those dates are in parallel now. And and so I guess the Supreme
2:23:08
Court can just delay and delay and delay. Well, the
2:23:11
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court from their recent track record
2:23:14
isn't going to even take this thing. There's no evidence that
2:23:16
they will. I mean, if did way I've been watching the Supreme
2:23:20
Court, they would go it would go like this. Why didn't this go to
2:23:23
an appeals court before it got to us?
2:23:26
Adam Curry: I'm not the expert, but we have an expert. And he
2:23:29
can rob can probably tell us our Supreme Court attorney.
2:23:35
John C Dvorak: Yes, he will. Maybe he will. Maybe we'll get a
2:23:37
note from him.
2:23:38
Adam Curry: I hope so. Before we take a break, I think because
2:23:42
we're we're running we're running long here. I think we
2:23:44
should talk about Ukraine and Zelinsky coming in and and
2:23:48
trying to try to get some money. He was he was literally hanging
2:23:54
out with defense contractors. There's pictures of for the
2:23:58
Boeing guys the Raytheon guys, he's he's just doing sales for
2:24:03
them. They're like, Hey, Blood, good work. Come on, man. Get
2:24:08
some credit, get some credit.
2:24:10
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start with this Ukraine hang up
2:24:12
Democracy Now. Clip as you have this takes us anywhere.
2:24:15
Unknown: Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky ended his
2:24:18
high stakes day in Washington, DC Tuesday, with little progress
2:24:22
and securing additional war funding. President Biden vowed
2:24:26
the US would support Ukraine quote as long as we can,
2:24:29
unquote, and urged Congress to pass a spending request of over
2:24:33
$100 billion, which also includes funding for Israel,
2:24:36
Taiwan, and further militarization of the US border.
2:24:41
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just gonna keep going, though.
2:24:44
John C Dvorak: This is Amy. What is she talking about further
2:24:47
further militarization of our border. That's what does that
2:24:52
mean? She's borders wide open. There's no militarization of the
2:24:57
border.
2:24:58
Adam Curry: Amy, come on, this is what she does. We love Amy
2:25:00
for that we love we love her little quips she's beautiful.
2:25:03
She she should be a professor at Harvard. She be perfect.
2:25:07
Actually, she'd be she shouldn't be an honorary John.
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: Actually, I'm surprised she's not.
2:25:12
Adam Curry: I have a little different take on it. I've only
2:25:14
two clips. Because Vladimir Putin, President of Russia,
2:25:19
running for his fifth term. He did his big show the big show
2:25:23
again. It was He cancelled it last year. This is the TV show
2:25:28
where he goes live for hours and hours and hours. And just any
2:25:33
he's joking around. He's answering questions. He's got a
2:25:36
whole panel there. Yeah. Does Trump owe many times over this?
2:25:42
It's a great show. I mean, I don't understand Russian of
2:25:45
course, but luckily, we have douchebag Doug from France 24.
2:25:51
And he's going to give us a little quick overview, and then
2:25:54
we'll get the Dortch Avella version. But But I love
2:25:57
douchebag dog because he tries to do sarcasm at this very
2:26:01
dangerous when you do sarcasm because people take that
2:26:05
seriously. If you're I don't know not funny.
2:26:07
Unknown: Yeah, his position hasn't changed at all. If
2:26:09
anything after being canceled last year. This has been his
2:26:12
first annual marathon press conference since the Russian
2:26:15
invasion of Ukraine. If anything, he has a lot of stress
2:26:18
in his steps this year. Why? Because it comes at a crucial
2:26:20
moment. It comes at a moment where Western support Western
2:26:24
military aid for Ukraine appears to be dwindling as Republicans,
2:26:28
especially in the United States Congress block a new aid
2:26:31
package. This impotence do validates what he's been saying
2:26:35
all along that the West is basically doesn't have the
2:26:38
staying power, that it's weak and DEC decadent and ultimately
2:26:41
that Putin and his forces his army will outlast the Western so
2:26:45
called resolve the as long as it takes resolved, standing
2:26:48
shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine. He's reiterated that
2:26:51
and his objectives when I say nothing's changed in his
2:26:53
position, yes, it was canceled last year. This press
2:26:55
conference, right. This was the first time after one year
2:26:58
hiatus. It was being held again. But what he said is our
2:27:01
objectives there won't be peace until we achieve our objectives.
2:27:04
What are those objectives? They were very he was very clear. In
2:27:07
regards to Ukraine, its detoxification going back to
2:27:10
what has become the staple of the false Kremlin narrative that
2:27:13
somehow they're neo Nazi Hunter running Ukraine. So d not
2:27:17
suffocation, a word that we hadn't heard as much lately, but
2:27:19
he's rehashed it this year, in full in full force at this press
2:27:23
conference, de militarization of Ukraine. Remember, it's not
2:27:26
Russia that's been the aggressor here and attacked Ukraine and
2:27:29
invaded Ukraine. No, no, no. It's the EU. It's Ukraine in the
2:27:32
West. We at the US and NATO's behest, that invaded that
2:27:36
basically attacked Russia and also returning Ukraine to
2:27:40
neutral status. He is unbending unbowed. He says he's always
2:27:43
open for talks, but he's only going to talk if when the with
2:27:47
the West is also willing to play ball and talk.
2:27:49
Adam Curry: I mean, he makes it sound like you like Ukraine
2:27:53
attack Russia. This guy is no good. Doug needs a new gig. So
2:27:59
he pontificates about what Putin saying Deutsche Avella. They
2:28:03
took it a lot more straight and is a little more nuanced.
2:28:05
Vladimir
2:28:06
Unknown: Putin has said Russia has goals in Ukraine remain
2:28:08
unchanged as he holds his end of your press conference. In
2:28:13
Moscow, the Russian president is taking questions from the public
2:28:16
and journalists in an event that has been broadcast live on
2:28:20
Russian state television, and is expected to last for hours and
2:28:24
they should put in who is running for re election in March
2:28:27
canceled at last year's show. And Russia's full scale invasion
2:28:31
of Ukraine. What is even worse, we'll be analyzing what the
2:28:37
Russian president has said so far in just a moment. But first,
2:28:40
let's have a listen to some of what he's had to say.
2:28:43
Adam Curry: So this isn't so now they're going live and they're
2:28:46
translating in live in real time, the true translation of
2:28:50
what Putin said and you just heard Doug pontificate on, he
2:28:55
could have been with this,
2:28:56
Unknown: there will be peace when we achieve our goals. Now,
2:28:59
let's get back to these goals. Well, they don't change. Remind
2:29:04
you of what we talked about today about the suffocation,
2:29:08
about MIDI militarization, neutral status and Windigo ideas
2:29:12
and with it, we will agree on demilitarization agree on
2:29:15
certain parameters. During the negotiations in Istanbul, we
2:29:19
agreed on it and they simply through these agreements into
2:29:22
the oven. Other possibilities to reach an agreement or to resolve
2:29:27
it by force is what we strive for.
2:29:30
Adam Curry: Sounds a lot more nuanced. Yeah. Yeah. And
2:29:35
demilitarized. You know what that means? A demilitarized
2:29:38
zone?
2:29:39
John C Dvorak: It will French 24 doesn't like Putin at all and
2:29:42
we're getting Deutsche Avella which we think is agent of the
2:29:45
CIA is probably part of the system to try to stop this
2:29:49
thing.
2:29:49
Adam Curry: It has to stop again bad product war is not a good
2:29:53
product.
2:29:56
John C Dvorak: And then there are defense guys got their
2:29:58
Adam Curry: money. Now they want more More than yeah well they
2:30:01
can always want more like always getting there $886 billion worth
2:30:06
what a scam how your potholes
2:30:12
John C Dvorak: still there a lot of them well they patch them
2:30:14
once in a while but I can still find places where there's just
2:30:16
tons of them. With
2:30:18
Adam Curry: that I'd like to thank you for your courage in
2:30:20
the morning to you the man who put the seeds in the Chinese
2:30:22
cyber actors ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:30:25
on the other end there John Cena
2:30:30
John C Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry in the
2:30:32
morning chips to see boots on the ground feet near subs in the
2:30:35
water. games nights out there man
2:30:44
Adam Curry: nope, nope, not we have. What did? Oh, goodness.
2:30:48
1658.
2:30:50
John C Dvorak: Down.
2:30:51
Adam Curry: We're down. We're dying here. We're dying on the
2:30:53
vine.
2:30:53
John C Dvorak: That should be 1800 on Thursday. Well, it's
2:30:56
Adam Curry: not 200 drove we drove away. It was the Taylor
2:31:00
Swift clip. I'm sure of it.
2:31:02
John C Dvorak: I would have done it.
2:31:03
Adam Curry: I apologize. I didn't mean to do it. They
2:31:06
trolls Good to have you here you can become one as well. Go to
2:31:09
troll room.io You can listen live no agenda streams was
2:31:13
playing there. Yes.
2:31:14
John C Dvorak: Hey, I didn't hear it today. I didn't hear the
2:31:17
pre show. But I understand that. Darren went nuts over Taylor
2:31:22
Swift. He just did a whole show. He
2:31:25
Adam Curry: did a he did a Taylor Swift Def Leppard mix.
2:31:30
Yeah, he's right. He's right. I know. I don't know what I don't
2:31:36
know what's wrong with him? Well, I do but I don't know
2:31:38
what's gotten into. We all know what's wrong with there. And
2:31:44
that is what you can listen to before we start live. We do the
2:31:47
show live on Thursdays and Sundays. You can listen to the
2:31:49
Rock and Roll pre show before that. That is the illustrious
2:31:53
Darren O'Neill, who by the way was talking about all that stuff
2:31:56
on Tuesday. He was talking about the about the mailing ballots he
2:32:01
broke that news. He has a show with Sir Jean and they must
2:32:05
John C Dvorak: say hell biggest 50 listeners are all the way up
2:32:08
on now. More than don't kidding I kid
2:32:14
Adam Curry: you know he's he plays all this stuff. And he
2:32:17
makes fun of you throughout the whole show. Now, you've become
2:32:19
the show layman.
2:32:20
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't if I was him. I do the same thing. To
2:32:23
defensive major.
2:32:25
Adam Curry: We also recommend that you get a modern podcast
2:32:28
app. Man, this if you're looking for something that's great on on
2:32:33
your iPhone, I'm sorry to hear that you have an iPhone cast
2:32:37
thematic. If you're looking for a great the experience on the
2:32:41
web pod fans. There's I'm liking podcast guru, right and right
2:32:46
now, fountain is completely refactored, they finally
2:32:49
released version one. I mean, there's a lot of activity going
2:32:52
on the best thing about these apps, besides the fact that you
2:32:55
get notified when we go live, you get notified within 90
2:32:59
seconds of us updating the show, you can't get that with any
2:33:03
other old legacy app, you want to have the new stuff. And if
2:33:08
anyone ever gets the platform thrown off of Apple or any other
2:33:12
of those big platforms, you'll still will be uninterrupted
2:33:15
entertainment for you. Thanks to the modern podcast apps. Yeah,
2:33:20
that's good stuff.
2:33:22
John C Dvorak: It is. I want to make a can I make an
2:33:24
announcement before we get too far into this and people started
2:33:26
hanging up?
2:33:27
Adam Curry: Well, is it about eggs?
2:33:29
John C Dvorak: No, it's about process. I want to remind people
2:33:36
if they if they ordered their PhD, they should go to the no
2:33:39
agenda rings.com site and send us an address to mail them to
2:33:46
which apparently a lot of people have figured well, didn't you
2:33:48
get it from PayPal? Or? I don't know. I didn't know that. Oh,
2:33:51
really? Do we have that issue?
2:33:53
Adam Curry: Do you know it's I'm pretty sure every single
2:33:56
knighting and naming ceremony I specifically say enter the
2:34:02
address where you want us to send the ring and your wax and
2:34:04
your certificate? I'm pretty sure I say that.
2:34:08
John C Dvorak: You do and every single show we always tell that
2:34:10
people that know something but we are a little lacs on telling
2:34:13
people to send their notes to notes. At no agenda show.net
2:34:18
Instead of Gu
2:34:20
Adam Curry: that'll, that'll never get fixed. That'll never
2:34:23
get fixed
2:34:24
John C Dvorak: to they send one to you and send one to me and
2:34:26
they send it you know, so I send it to Jay and use DJ and has to
2:34:30
sort these out.
2:34:31
Adam Curry: I know. Oh, she is finally starting. There you go.
2:34:35
She's starting to complain. She
2:34:37
John C Dvorak: didn't. She mentioned it wasn't complaining.
2:34:40
She's got
2:34:40
Adam Curry: the COVID we're breaking her we're breaking J
2:34:43
Well, we
2:34:43
John C Dvorak: can keep going. We'll get her as she's sick as
2:34:46
sucks. As she gets it flu. I
2:34:49
Adam Curry: think we're almost over we took the ivermectin we
2:34:52
took quesiton D three. Yeah. And it Tina got
2:34:58
John C Dvorak: Lindsay Do you ever figure out what you have?
2:35:00
It wasn't
2:35:01
Adam Curry: I don't know I'm not gonna test I'm not a moron. You
2:35:04
John C Dvorak: know to test you can tell these things are all
2:35:05
slightly different. You sure you should know your body enough to
2:35:08
say, Oh, I'm getting catching the flu? Well,
2:35:10
Adam Curry: I know exactly what I had. But if you want to know,
2:35:14
dude, I had the wave this
2:35:16
Unknown: morning hearing from several
2:35:18
health experts about a potential COVID 19 surge at the end of
2:35:21
this month.
2:35:21
That's right. The latest model show a wave is coming. But ABC
2:35:24
Action wave
2:35:25
Adam Curry: is coming. It's j n dot one baby. Don't you know the
2:35:30
wave is coming? The wave the wave j n one the wave the best
2:35:35
hot his rock station?
2:35:38
John C Dvorak: That's what I'm saying one way. One on your
2:35:44
dial.
2:35:45
Adam Curry: Dan one. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, people
2:35:51
helped Jay out. And by the way, you know, it'll never be linked
2:35:56
from divorce.org/na. But no agenda donations.com It has all
2:36:01
that information there. And I say this, I say I give this
2:36:04
address as well. All right, yeah, you can't change people's
2:36:06
behavior. We can try. But if you want your rings, then you get it
2:36:12
much faster
2:36:13
John C Dvorak: diplomas, too, we gotta get we gotta get the rest
2:36:15
of them out Ross ship. If the 6075 Oh,
2:36:20
Adam Curry: through process people. Process closing process,
2:36:23
I
2:36:23
John C Dvorak: wanted to make a complaint about process. And so
2:36:26
there you have it.
2:36:27
Adam Curry: And you should sign it the management. All caps, all
2:36:32
caps. Value for value is the entire system here, which is now
2:36:40
being used everywhere around the internet, people are catching on
2:36:42
to the idea. Of course, we knew this 16 years ago, this is the
2:36:46
only model for the future.
2:36:48
John C Dvorak: They will it's a it's a safe model, because you
2:36:51
can't get D platformed. Right. You can't get somebody put some
2:36:57
one lunatic. pressuring your advertisers is all it takes to
2:37:01
get them all care where we shouldn't advertise with them.
2:37:03
Now, it only takes one lunatic. Yep,
2:37:07
Adam Curry: that's right. And one loud lunatic and I think we
2:37:10
have a few.
2:37:12
John C Dvorak: We have more than a few loud lunatics. Again, some
2:37:16
nasty notes recently. We'd have when you were going to read
2:37:20
Adam Curry: this coming up what's coming up in a minute.
2:37:22
It's a doozy. It's a real it's a real doozy. So the concept is
2:37:28
time, talent or treasure. We give you all the value we have.
2:37:32
And we've been we really try hard. I mean, we work all week
2:37:35
at this stuff. We do during holidays. Vacations, we take
2:37:40
probably about two shows a year off. And total was was I think
2:37:45
it was one more this year because of some surgical stuff I
2:37:48
was going through. I really really couldn't talk. Otherwise,
2:37:54
chop an arm off and I'll still show up that's a shutout but
2:38:02
there's a lot of things that people can do and you can
2:38:04
contribute because we don't consider your listeners or fans
2:38:07
or the audience. No, you are producers of the no agenda show.
2:38:11
We do it all together. You are no agenda nation. There's a lot
2:38:15
of things you do on your own motivation. See the meetups, but
2:38:19
you know, meetup site, everything. Everything has been
2:38:22
done by you guys. I mean, even the concept like douchebag de
2:38:26
douching karma, none of that. We're not that creative. We
2:38:30
didn't dream that we're not creative. We don't have any
2:38:32
meeting like hey, let's go over some creative No, you guys do
2:38:35
it. We Oh, that's creative. Yeah, a lot of the clips, a lot
2:38:39
of the great finds a lot of fantastic things. It is all you
2:38:42
and it is really appreciated. Now, some people have more
2:38:47
talent than others. Some have more time than others. Some have
2:38:50
more treasure. The artists have talent. And we want to thank the
2:38:54
clip custodian, Neil Jones for the artwork for Episode 1615,
2:39:00
titled day one dictator. And of course, we believe this was
2:39:05
complete AI but it was it was a nice depiction of the Milgram
2:39:09
experiment. I love it when we put these things on x. And we
2:39:13
you know, we send them out into the ether and people go that
2:39:16
should be on a t shirt. I love that that's how good this stuff
2:39:19
is. It is it is it. This was a great piece. We love that a lot
2:39:25
the clip custodian. There's another perfect example the clip
2:39:28
custodian. He sends me clips every single show and his
2:39:32
brother, the clip collector. I think he sends you clips. Steve,
2:39:37
John C Dvorak: does he not? Yes. Steve says me a three by
2:39:40
Adam Curry: three by three. Exactly. I mean, and you know,
2:39:42
and you know what's cool? Sometimes then I'll send it
2:39:46
like, Hey, I got something else to do. That's cool, too. That's
2:39:49
what makes it so beautiful. We don't have contracts. There was
2:39:53
like, Hey, man, you're supposed to deliver clips every single
2:39:55
show. Oh yeah. You're fired, you're fired. You're no good.
2:40:03
John C Dvorak: That's actually the only thing we miss, like
2:40:05
the, like
2:40:06
Adam Curry: the Art Generator, you know. So sir Polka toured.
2:40:09
But the thing has been running for over 12 years. 13 years. And
2:40:15
he actually now on no agenda art generated.com. He has a preview
2:40:18
down at the bottom of what the new generator will look like.
2:40:21
And he has a note for us at the top. I see that. Yeah, he says
2:40:23
the legacy chapter artworks. Now this is important because we
2:40:28
were using those, you know, this would Dred Scott does another
2:40:30
great guy with time on his hands, who does all the chapter
2:40:35
art that work in the modern podcast apps? And I think also
2:40:37
on no agenda. show.net, he said was almost able to deploy before
2:40:41
the start of the show and may still be able to get deployed
2:40:43
before the end of show dealing with some config issues in
2:40:46
production. I hate JavaScript developers. Wow. So it'll be he
2:40:54
says,
2:40:54
John C Dvorak: everybody does Dante.
2:40:58
Adam Curry: I die. I have no opinion on that. And down at the
2:41:02
bottom, it looks like it's gonna be beautiful. And so we're
2:41:04
patient. We're cool. And he's in everyone's chipped in,
2:41:06
everyone's figured it out. They're posting a no agenda
2:41:09
social. He's linking it in. It's a beautiful thing, man, we
2:41:12
appreciate it. Take your time, brother. That's part of how it
2:41:15
works here. And don't pressure him. No pressure him. So this is
2:41:20
where it's Oh, of course, we don't have the same level of, of
2:41:25
supply. Just because it's, you know, it's it's a more
2:41:28
complicated process. I'm sure a couple artists like well, you
2:41:31
know, I wait, you know, they'll wait until it's back up. But
2:41:34
still people are doing it and we're so thankful for that. So
2:41:39
thankful. So thank you to the clip custodian. There were a
2:41:42
couple other pieces we discussed. I liked the CIA
2:41:44
manual from Francisco Scaramanga. And you can play
2:41:49
along at home if you want to know genart. generator.com Yeah,
2:41:52
you didn't like that one. I thought it was funny. To
2:41:55
John C Dvorak: strictly use you couldn't see that he was can't
2:41:58
read that little thing in there and little
2:42:00
Adam Curry: read. Can't read it. And you can read that just fine.
2:42:03
But
2:42:03
John C Dvorak: I'm going to use that as the example of future
2:42:05
example when you bitch and moan about it. You can't read it.
2:42:08
That is my new. I kind of like to train Yeah, we did talk about
2:42:13
the train. Right. It was like it was so AI that it was to AI.
2:42:18
Side. particularly funny. No, no.
2:42:23
Adam Curry: Train comb your hair, man. No, I mean, this was
2:42:27
it. This was the one I
2:42:29
John C Dvorak: think the robot was also AI and then the globe
2:42:31
thing was AI. And then there was a it was all I said, all these
2:42:35
pieces, except maybe one or two of them. Which were the lamer
2:42:39
ones
2:42:40
Adam Curry: speaking, speaking of AI, they want to hear this is
2:42:42
a fun thing. If someone taught me this today, so if you go into
2:42:47
chat GPT and you say, I have I'm typing this now three towels on
2:42:55
a clothes line, and it takes three hours for them to dry. How
2:43:05
long will it take nine towels to dry? I asked you what would the
2:43:12
answer be?
2:43:14
John C Dvorak: The real answer should take about the same
2:43:16
amount of time.
2:43:18
Adam Curry: The drying time for towel I'm reading this live the
2:43:21
drying time for towels depends on various factors including the
2:43:23
material of the towels dishes, neither
2:43:25
John C Dvorak: typical of these answers the air
2:43:29
Adam Curry: the air circulation. However, if we assume that the
2:43:31
conditions remain constant, you can make a simple assumption
2:43:34
that the drying time is directly proportional to the number of
2:43:37
tiles in this case, if it takes three hours for three towels to
2:43:40
dry, you can estimate that it would take nine towels three
2:43:43
times as long, assuming all other factors remain constant.
2:43:46
Therefore it might take approximately nine hours for
2:43:48
nine towels to dry under the same conditions. Yeah, wrong.
2:43:52
Yeah. Keep in mind, this is a rough estimation. And the actual
2:43:55
dries could vary based on factors mentioned earlier. How
2:43:59
stupid is this? It can't do math. I love I listen as well.
2:44:06
John C Dvorak: Is that really math or logic? It's pretty
2:44:10
Adam Curry: basic. I mean, you're saying you're excusing
2:44:14
this behavior?
2:44:16
John C Dvorak: This is this I think AI is the best is from
2:44:18
Adam Curry: an $89 billion company.
2:44:23
John C Dvorak: Well, there's that minor
2:44:25
Adam Curry: thing. minor thing. So yeah, people Yeah, yeah, at
2:44:29
least we get funky art. Yay. Good. Good for you. Because
2:44:33
John C Dvorak: these guys if you if you know how to use these art
2:44:36
generators, the AI ones and you can fine tune it. You can
2:44:40
correct it. You know how to do it. Yeah, you can produce some
2:44:43
because we've been picking really good stuff. Yeah, that's
2:44:46
great. Totally. I mean, I yeah, I we don't worry so much about
2:44:51
plagiarism.
2:44:53
Adam Curry: No, exact that's a thing of the past. Yeah.
2:44:57
John C Dvorak: Why bother? Why bother your plagiarize anymore?
2:45:00
Are why bother to the US? clipart?
2:45:02
Adam Curry: Exactly. Give up those licenses. This
2:45:05
John C Dvorak: is really this is a I think it's a on the on the
2:45:10
other clip side of the AI. Praise is the fact that is this
2:45:15
is I guess in the hands of real good artists is maybe a benefit.
2:45:21
But I think overall it's a it's a it's costing jobs. It's gonna
2:45:27
cost jobs,
2:45:28
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, and jobs. Some jobs. But you know,
2:45:35
we lost the buggy drivers to replace them with cabbies, but
2:45:40
turbans in New York.
2:45:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they've got to be replaced by self driving
2:45:44
vehicles except in San Francisco with
2:45:48
Adam Curry: fire 900 People from cruise. Cruise cruisers shutting
2:45:52
down.
2:45:54
John C Dvorak: They have to
2:45:54
Adam Curry: one guy they drag one guy. Yeah. How fair is that?
2:45:59
One guy they drag along the streets of San Francisco. Gotta
2:46:03
fire 900 people. Where's the equity in that? I asked you.
2:46:08
Yeah. Well, speaking of New York, Rick Schell duar. He's in
2:46:14
Brooklyn comes in with what I call the striper donation.
2:46:19
Seven, seven. And he says, I saw sir spoon makers ring at the
2:46:25
Brooklyn meetup. Oh, there was a Brooklyn meeting. I didn't get
2:46:27
the meetup report. Oh, there we have producers in Brooklyn who
2:46:31
met is I want one. This donation should bring me up to 1000 I'm
2:46:36
thankful my brother. My brother Mel car and Tucson and my smokin
2:46:41
hot wife winter snark of 17 years, which is why I had to
2:46:45
leave the meet up. And oh my case, what?
2:46:52
John C Dvorak: BOMA casi Alma Cassie,
2:46:54
Adam Curry: what does that mean? Like, Hey, is that fast? Like I
2:46:57
did meet lead the meet up? And I'm a kossei
2:47:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:47:02
Adam Curry: I don't under I don't know. I don't know what
2:47:03
you what we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna night you no matter
2:47:07
what. Thank you. And he doesn't ask for anything else. So that's
2:47:10
easy one. Oh, my kossei.
2:47:14
John C Dvorak: So we have a note from the indie in. In a meet F
2:47:18
in Greenwood, Indiana. Is this this separate third week of the
2:47:21
same? No.
2:47:23
Adam Curry: Do we have? No, no, no, this is the new media. This
2:47:26
is from the raffle. So they finally figured out the raffle
2:47:30
they figured out because they wanted to do it on the last
2:47:32
show. And like we could sneak it in 10 minutes before you start
2:47:35
splitting.
2:47:36
John C Dvorak: But that show before that, why didn't you do
2:47:38
it, then that's when you came back. Because
2:47:41
Adam Curry: as I explained, they have a very complicated process.
2:47:44
And it's very well organized, just a little slow,
2:47:47
John C Dvorak: organized and may switcheroo donation day.
2:47:50
Adam Curry: You can be grateful. I'm grateful
2:47:53
John C Dvorak: for it. But I would like it to be a little
2:47:55
more consolidated. I think there this is
2:47:57
Adam Curry: the consolidation. This is from the raffle. Those
2:48:00
other ones were people who were just there and donated because
2:48:03
they were there. This is from the raffle. And it's all
2:48:05
consolidated. It
2:48:07
John C Dvorak: is Yes. Which rule donation from indie media
2:48:09
for Vikon of Hamilton and the two pennies and no jingles. No
2:48:12
karma. Well, that's a plus. I just want to thank Adam and Tina
2:48:16
for visiting. Okay. God bless. Okay, so I guess that'll be the
2:48:21
end of it.
2:48:21
Adam Curry: No, because the next one is also these are all the
2:48:25
you know how it works, they do a raffle, and they consolidate it
2:48:28
all. And then they gave away like four executive producer
2:48:32
ships and one associate and this is and they sent it in one
2:48:34
email. What's your gripe?
2:48:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, just saying, You
2:48:38
Adam Curry: know what I know, I'm asking you a question.
2:48:40
What's your gripe? What's wrong? What did they do wrong? So we
2:48:42
can make you a happier man? Well, I don't
2:48:45
John C Dvorak: care one way or the other. But I thought this
2:48:47
would all be resolved. And you went there. And then there was a
2:48:51
big meet up report and you had all the donations together and
2:48:54
everything you'd like normally you do a meet up. And then if
2:48:57
there's a report on the meetup, and then all the donations are
2:49:00
submitted, and they all goes through at once. This is the
2:49:03
been the third week that we've been doing the same plugs for
2:49:06
the India in a meet up
2:49:08
Adam Curry: now you don't understand?
2:49:10
John C Dvorak: I guess not know. They just say it's never
2:49:15
happened before.
2:49:17
Adam Curry: It's never they've never had this many donations
2:49:19
before. Which is why I'm just grateful. switcharoo donation
2:49:23
from the indie meetup for John Jones 333. And he says just want
2:49:28
to thank Adam and the keeper for coming to the Indianapolis
2:49:31
meetup. I was one of the lucky winners of the raffle for an
2:49:33
executive producer level donation. For the first oddly
2:49:37
enough 33 years of my life, I had only been surrounded by
2:49:41
people of a particular mindset, which I didn't share. It wasn't
2:49:45
until I started listening to the show that I found that others
2:49:48
were similar free thinkers. Thank you for the no agenda show
2:49:52
as I have not had to feel like I was such an anomaly for the past
2:49:56
11 years. Yikes.
2:49:59
John C Dvorak: Beautiful. Baronet to salty in Manchester,
2:50:04
New Hampshire 333 early Merry Christmas to you and the
2:50:10
producers and listeners the best podcast in the universe may the
2:50:12
Lord's face face face shine upon you all love Baronet to salty of
2:50:21
Manchester. I was I had trouble pronouncing the word borrowers.
2:50:29
Adam Curry: I heard that you went Baba Wawa vers Raza
2:50:33
John C Dvorak: was weird funny to get into a loop where I
2:50:37
couldn't say it and it was like I'm concerned now that I
2:50:40
couldn't say borrow words. I kept trying to put it as to one
2:50:45
borrower. I couldn't do it. And it was just like, very annoying.
2:50:49
I'm wondering if that's a bad thing. Well, I
2:50:51
Adam Curry: was thinking, Trojan
2:50:56
John C Dvorak: that's what triggered my beat. 12 Thomas
2:50:59
Adam Curry: Perez is in Minnetonka, Minnesota 333 This
2:51:03
is a switcheroo birthday donation from my little bro
2:51:06
Henry. Happy Birthday buddy. Couldn't let you stay a
2:51:09
douchebag for another year. D Duchenne biscuit please.
2:51:13
Unknown: You've been de Deus. They always give me my birthday.
2:51:19
John C Dvorak: All right. Indeed. No agenda meet up once
2:51:21
again from Greenwood Indiana. Switch another switcheroo raffle
2:51:25
them a big raffle. This is for Sir Brian with an eye as opposed
2:51:32
to what grew up in India. It was nice to see familiar faces and
2:51:36
make new friends but when I returned to Texas, the doctors
2:51:39
could not determine how I contracted RSV but thankfully I
2:51:44
listen to no agenda show so the mystery is the mystery has been
2:51:48
solved. And thanks Emily. It's been a fun two weeks on the germ
2:51:53
barge. This calls for an Obama you might die in the morning.
2:52:01
Adam Curry: You might die in the morning you might die don't have
2:52:05
the in the morning handy. But yeah, you might die Sir Brian
2:52:09
with an eye versus her Brian with a why. Another switcheroo
2:52:13
from the indie and a meet up. This is the from the raffle
2:52:17
donation. This is for Sir Nick dragon of the four domains. And
2:52:22
he asked actually this was a good one. He said could you
2:52:25
please play the jingle John's gonna hum the Sunday Times and
2:52:30
throw in a chef's on whoo I had to look for it. But yes. John's
2:52:35
gonna Hama Sunday Yeah, classic have not heard that. So
2:52:44
John C Dvorak: long ago, long, long time. They had a
2:52:47
subscription to The New York Times. And you use the helmet.
2:52:51
And white ever hummed it by plays. I talked about some of
2:52:54
the headlines. It was just turned out to be a dog of a
2:52:56
segment. Lavender blossoms are buddies in Northfield,
2:52:59
Northville Michigan, I think is lavender blossoms.com.org.org.
2:53:05
Okay, pick up a gift for that special someone from our farm,
2:53:08
especially the new cows can Abies solve. It's infused with
2:53:14
my own organic cannabis and 2x more potent in our CBD solves.
2:53:20
No, it doesn't get you high. Special Thanks and happy
2:53:24
birthday to all. Oh,
2:53:26
Adam Curry: thank you much. I'm just getting the next couple of
2:53:30
notes already here for some reason that PDF wasn't sent but
2:53:33
a picture. Oh, then we get 285 from the Brooklyn drinking club
2:53:38
club meet up. And it's their donation credit to individual
2:53:42
donors by their own accounting. Okay, well, I love that they're
2:53:45
from Brooklyn, New York. And so they will. They will they will
2:53:49
keep their own accounting for that good work.
2:53:52
John C Dvorak: Chris kharsia in San Jose California. tu tu tu tu
2:53:58
tu it's my Keeper's birthday on December 14 And I want to give
2:54:03
her an executive title. No. exact title for her please.
2:54:07
Okay, that's a switcheroo. It should be noted. Yeah, we don't
2:54:10
have her name. Well,
2:54:12
Adam Curry: she'll become Dame ie of the Treasure Valley. Let's
2:54:16
John C Dvorak: put her there for the switcheroo. Okay, well so I
2:54:19
want to have her okay Dame nights credit so she can become
2:54:23
debt Okay. Dame of the Treasure Valley. With all my love to you
2:54:28
my Viking beauty.
2:54:31
Adam Curry: Eli the coffee guys in Bensenville Illinois.
2:54:36
Palindrome 21212 attached note Merry Christmas gentlemen. First
2:54:41
of all, I want to give a shout out to Trevor in Colorado for
2:54:43
hitting me in the mouth and call him out as a douchebag. I'm
2:54:46
thankful for both of you and appreciate the hard work and
2:54:49
dedication which goes into delivering a quality product
2:54:51
twice a week. I've been listening to this since 2018.
2:54:54
I'm happy to say I'm no longer douchebag is my wife and
2:54:57
business partner sometimes points out She just calls you a
2:55:02
douchebag just in general. I'm finally in a position to start
2:55:05
returning value after taking a vow of poverty start my own
2:55:08
business. In 2021. My wife Jen and I launched gigawatt Coffee
2:55:12
Roasters two weeks before the world shut down a timing is
2:55:15
everything in business. Needless to say, it's been a wild ride.
2:55:19
No agenda has kept me company during the long hours, early
2:55:22
mornings and late nights that go along with the startup. I'm
2:55:25
thankful for the whole na community and would like to
2:55:27
offer a 20% discount to all producers go to gigawatt coffee.
2:55:31
roasters.com use code ITM 20 For your first order to pick up a
2:55:36
great bag of fresh air roasted coffee for under 10 bucks. Stay
2:55:40
safe. No jingles no karma, just good vibes blessings, and warm
2:55:44
holiday wishes for the whole na family. Stay caffeinated. All
2:55:48
right. He
2:55:49
John C Dvorak: sent me a bunch of the coffee.
2:55:51
Adam Curry: How was it? I was gonna ask? Well, I
2:55:53
John C Dvorak: just got it. So like yesterday, so I like to try
2:55:56
some. He's got he's got a couple of things you should know. He's
2:56:01
got a lot of variety of coffees especially as single source
2:56:04
stuff. He's got some weird coffees that he's developed and
2:56:06
also some cans of coffee drinks that he's developed him in CES
2:56:12
who's his wife, Jen, Jen was his partner. And I would say in
2:56:18
terms of the packaging of the of the cans and the beans
2:56:22
themselves. Top drawer I don't know who he hired to do the
2:56:26
packaging and the style of marketing for the packaging
2:56:29
themselves. He's got to he's got barrel aged coffees, artists and
2:56:33
he's got every small batch millennial and Gen Z Zinger on
2:56:37
their beautiful small batch. Small batch everything small
2:56:42
batch. It's just it's absolutely top drawer and I the coffee I've
2:56:47
had so far which is the disagree barrel aged coffee from Sumatra.
2:56:52
I like it, but I want to try some of the other ones and see
2:56:55
what he's got going on. I'll have a report in about a month
2:56:58
after I go through some of these coffees. Okay. Anyway, thanks
2:57:02
for the coffee. Groovy.
2:57:03
Adam Curry: Thank you, Eli the coffee guy. ITM 20 code at
2:57:06
checkout.
2:57:08
John C Dvorak: Sir Salah Hauser in Melbourne, Florida is up on
2:57:11
the list. And he says and he came up with 200 even. And he
2:57:16
says all i want for Christmas is no exit strategy. Sorry gents.
2:57:21
Love you guys mean it's or Salah hunter of the 321 I think you
2:57:25
should do the next one. It's your ad. Linda Lubetkin. In
2:57:29
fact, in Lakewood, Colorado jobs karma for a remarkable resume
2:57:33
that hits people in the mouth. Image makers inc.com For all
2:57:38
your executive and resume job search needs. That's image
2:57:41
makers Inc with a gay.com. But just find Linda Lou Patrick and
2:57:46
under the show's producer lists jobs,
2:57:49
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for John.
2:57:55
Adam Curry: You've got karma. Here it is. Sir Berzerker. We
2:58:01
have not heard from since January of 2021. But he comes in
2:58:04
with an Associate Executive Producer ship at $200. His note
2:58:07
is as follows. Ditch the jeering tone Adam, get back to analysis
2:58:13
Adam show has been weak since you got sucked into the
2:58:17
Fredericksburg ladies chap no one cares about I can't
2:58:20
recommend this show to anyone due to the amount of whining and
2:58:24
lack of insight, sir Berzerker.
2:58:28
John C Dvorak: But he told you
2:58:30
Adam Curry: this, this actually hurt my feelings. It did. Good.
2:58:35
Because I
2:58:36
John C Dvorak: don't understand why a $200 donation could have
2:58:39
been higher. No,
2:58:41
Adam Curry: I was like ditch the jeering tone. What is that? What
2:58:43
is jeering tone? I don't understand. He wants me to
2:58:46
correct something but he's not helping me with any instrumental
2:58:49
you
2:58:49
John C Dvorak: have to actually have a specific if you're gonna
2:58:52
do that, because I don't know what he's talking about.
2:58:54
Adam Curry: No. And he's like, since you got sucked into the
2:58:58
John C Dvorak: I don't know about the ladies club or your DS
2:59:00
talking about you're talking about the models or these moms
2:59:03
for liberties
2:59:03
Adam Curry: for liberty, which I think is boots on the ground. I
2:59:07
don't understand now that he can't recommend the show to
2:59:10
anyone due to the amount of whining what whining and lack of
2:59:13
insight. I mean, that's just what I don't know but it hurt my
2:59:18
feelings.
2:59:19
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I I feel that I like I
2:59:25
condemned this note
2:59:29
Adam Curry: we've we've been kind of the same for 16 years.
2:59:33
Yeah, yes we fluctuate we there's ups and downs with
2:59:36
everything but I just I just don't understand it. Understand
2:59:40
it.
2:59:42
John C Dvorak: And here we go again, Indy, no agenda motive in
2:59:44
Greenwood, Indiana. $200. No jingles, no karma. Luckily,
2:59:48
switcheroo raffle. How many raffles do they do donation from
2:59:51
the river for my call. Mike Paul. You know there's a note
2:59:57
missing There's something something we're doing with one
3:00:02
of our old donors. Producers. My crotch is the I guess he's do
3:00:10
some PhD but he sent some notes and it was confusing to Jay. And
3:00:13
she said, there's this guy who keeps sending notes and about I
3:00:16
don't I have no record of his notes is because it comes into
3:00:20
some other name. I'm guessing she says Michael, I guess a
3:00:22
Michael crotch a crotch. I said, You mean my cry my crotch? Yeah,
3:00:27
we didn't get it. And then she cracks up. And she can't talk to
3:00:32
me for about an hour. Really? Wow. Because it's so funny. It's
3:00:38
one of those jokes. You know, my crotch? Yeah, my mic. You gotta
3:00:43
you got one.
3:00:45
Adam Curry: You got you got a good job. Seymour
3:00:47
John C Dvorak: butts you can you'll get the same approach
3:00:49
work on Mandroid work. All right, that would be our last
3:00:54
Associate Executive
3:00:55
Adam Curry: now. And other trolls are really hurting my
3:00:57
feelings. Like you were more funny when you were stoned.
3:01:02
John C Dvorak: That's not true. I'm a Mimi, who what used to
3:01:04
produce comedy knows that I
3:01:07
Adam Curry: thank you. Yes, she's
3:01:09
John C Dvorak: an actual expert
3:01:10
Adam Curry: that Wow. Now Now I feel much better all of a
3:01:13
sudden. Wow, that's great. He's
3:01:14
John C Dvorak: the expert. Not some blame. Oh, that's in the
3:01:17
chat room. Troll. Troll. Troll. Lame o troll.
3:01:23
Adam Curry: Thank you very much to our executive and Associate
3:01:25
Executive producers we really appreciate especially the indie,
3:01:30
raffle winners, who also all got to take home a prize in addition
3:01:33
to the to their executive or Associate Executive Producer
3:01:38
ship and he had like a no agenda license plate. There was a
3:01:42
signed copy of too many eggs, the book too many eggs.com. I'm
3:01:45
just saying I mean this this was a great way to do it. And all
3:01:48
consolidated we thank you so much, Mark and Maria for sending
3:01:51
that all through. And of course, we always want to thank people
3:01:54
come in under $50 For reasons of anonymity. And if you're on a
3:01:58
sustaining donation, thank you. If not, please consider one at
3:02:02
DeVore act.org/na or no agenda. donations.com. John is going to
3:02:06
take us through the 50s right now. We'd like to thank them as
3:02:08
well. Yeah.
3:02:10
John C Dvorak: Starting with Monica, assignee for Gursky,
3:02:15
Sandy for Gursky in Rego Park, New York 155 33 jobs karma for
3:02:21
her after the we get to the end, sir Fetta. Net have a cheesy
3:02:27
name and Thomas Berg, Ontario 140 98 Jeffrey bents in Denver,
3:02:36
Pennsylvania 123 21 Second of nine to knighthood, Mark
3:02:46
Adam Curry: Baylor Veldt
3:02:47
John C Dvorak: Baylor Velda K by Livia by live out in Haddam,
3:02:51
Connecticut 100. And he's got something to say. He says dunk,
3:02:58
Connecticut. He must be a Dutchman. And Chris kharsia
3:03:04
wants to get in Boise Idaho, a 100. And this is a note you
3:03:08
probably should read because I think as you becoming a night
3:03:10
well note he says Jenny
3:03:12
Adam Curry: Jensen is my keepers name and her birthday is
3:03:14
December 14 Our ie of the Treasure Valley not enough room
3:03:19
to complete common via Pay Pal. We've been donating 3333 per
3:03:23
month since September 20. Border for the roundtable. April
3:03:29
skivers April skivers with powdered sugar and lingonberry
3:03:35
jam, I know the lingonberry jam. So that was who we had earlier.
3:03:40
And so I guess they completed everything. So she's going to be
3:03:43
a dame now. So this is good news. I'm going to end I have
3:03:46
the lingonberry for you,
3:03:47
John C Dvorak: Eric, in Casper, Wyoming. Oh, that's the other
3:03:51
thing I wanted to mention. When I did the thing about process.
3:03:56
Somebody sent a note that went to Jay's spam box saying they
3:04:03
didn't want to be mentioned. I don't know if it's on this list
3:04:05
or not. I don't think so. Maybe the last show. I didn't want to
3:04:08
be mentioned on the on the I was a donor I didn't want to be
3:04:11
mentioned I want to be anonymous. So I did went to the
3:04:13
spam box. And then the kicker is they donated $50 If they had
3:04:20
donated 4999 They would automatically automatically be
3:04:25
anonymized us right. Okay, anyway, just just mentioned that
3:04:30
Eric in Casper, Wyoming came with 100 bucks. He needs a D
3:04:33
douching. D deuced. Patricia Lewis and Merced California, got
3:04:41
a birthday call out for her grandson, and he needs a de
3:04:44
douche. Van De deuced. There we get to Kevin McLaughlin in
3:04:50
Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke Aluna lover of
3:04:52
American moves. 808 And he says boobs they see all they know all
3:04:59
right. The Windy Brannon in Saginaw, Michigan 75. TJ of the
3:05:05
side I 75 And there's a birthday call out coming up. Kevin
3:05:10
McLaughlin is back with 606 with the comment. Boobs are like a
3:05:14
fine wine they get better with age. Serve as bash that's
3:05:20
interesting, sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee 5993
3:05:26
Christopher Dexter and 5678 Scott mingle mingle in Exton,
3:05:33
Pennsylvania. 55 Michael Jarrett in mutt Ville, Connecticut, to
3:05:40
do 52 And he's a de douching. De deuced. If Joe Biden which we
3:05:49
don't do, Eric Hof in Edmonton, Alberta 51 Edward Bolla in
3:05:58
Dublin, Ireland 5049 And as a birthday call out, sir tech
3:06:04
wizard in Blacksburg, Virginia. 5033 is another birthday coming
3:06:09
up. And now we go to the 50s name and location John spade and
3:06:13
Edmond Oklahoma, Cory Cunningham in Warrenton, Virginia. Tim
3:06:19
Delvecchio and blend in Pennsylvania, Andrew Grasso and
3:06:24
Mineola New York Gary Mau in Woodland Hills California
3:06:28
Stephen in in Bucks elder South Dakota, Paul best in Horsham
3:06:34
West Sussex, UK use karma for douchebags Brennan's of y in
3:06:42
Port orchard, Washington, Jared Jared, you're in Nashville
3:06:47
Tennessee. Real deals now in San Antonio, Texas. Dame Patricia
3:06:53
Worthington in Miami, Florida. I think Miami Beach even Sarah
3:06:59
whip in Atlanta, Georgia, and she has
3:07:03
Adam Curry: a mega douche for Brian Lee who introduced her to
3:07:08
no agenda but has not been donating so douchebag
3:07:13
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin deals in $100 Ville, North Carolina
3:07:17
Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas. Diane Shawanda Beck in
3:07:23
johnsburg, Illinois, Sara Landis in drum right, Oklahoma and last
3:07:28
on least last on the list. Is Baron Allen been in Beaverton
3:07:34
Oregon want to thank these folks for making this show? By the
3:07:38
way, Sarah's got a birthday caller we got you covered. Yes,
3:07:40
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it's it's a birthday call out for her
3:07:42
Oh, and a D douching. Yeah, for husband Judd and a D douching.
3:07:46
And she wanted to go
3:07:51
John C Dvorak: so these are the folks who helped make show 1616
3:07:55
Even though I don't see any 1616 donations, a possibility and a
3:07:59
reality. Thank you all. Yes. And
3:08:01
Adam Curry: again, we appreciate everyone who came in under that.
3:08:05
And the sustaining donations are definitely something you want to
3:08:07
check out please do that for.org/and A reminder that
3:08:12
these credits for executive and Associate Executive Producer are
3:08:15
completely valid legal and anywhere credits are recognized
3:08:19
you can use it LinkedIn on your resume or go to imdb.com If you
3:08:23
don't already have one because you're already a top produced
3:08:25
like some of the Hollywood people who are on there. Now if
3:08:28
not, you could open one up and you can say to everybody I'm a
3:08:31
proud executive or Associate Executive Producer of the best
3:08:33
podcast in the universe. Episode 1616
3:08:38
Unknown: Bar formula is this. We go out for yet people in the
3:08:42
mouth
3:08:53
shut us
3:09:02
Adam Curry: we love celebrating birthdays with our producers out
3:09:05
there and get mo nation gris Garcia Garcia wishes his
3:09:08
keyboard Jenny Jensen, a very happy one celebrating today
3:09:12
Edward Faber also celebrating today sir tech wizard turns 33
3:09:15
Tomorrow, Patricia Lewis wishes her grandson Jackson. A very
3:09:19
happy one he'll be turning 15 on the 18th Sarah Landis wishing
3:09:23
her amazing husband just Atlanta's Happy Birthday. He's
3:09:26
turning 48 Today I guess TJ of the side I says Happy Birthday
3:09:31
Sir off gar and Thomas pears wishes his little bro Henry a
3:09:35
happy birthday. We say happy birthday from everybody here the
3:09:38
best podcast in the universe. Man it's short today. We only
3:09:42
have one Damon one night. So here is the short blade but you
3:09:46
can do you have your blade?
3:09:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, got it right here. Ready?
3:09:51
Adam Curry: That's a pretty one. Up on the podium Jenny Jensen
3:09:57
and Rick Shuguang Both of us for the best podcast and universe
3:10:02
$1,000 Or more and some of you took a long time but we are very
3:10:06
proud to pronounce the Kate the as Dame ie of the Treasure
3:10:10
Valley and Sir Rick shut duar hope I pronounced that right for
3:10:14
you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, able
3:10:17
skivers with powdered sugar and lingonberry jam. We got diet
3:10:23
soda and video games. We got harlots and hell pepperoni rolls
3:10:26
and pale ales, Master Jolie and margaritas, Romanesque and Rosae
3:10:31
Vaca, Manila bong hits and Bremond sparkling side
3:10:33
wrestlers, ginger ale and Jerboas and of course, mutton
3:10:35
and Mead Now you heard the process go now to no agenda
3:10:39
rings.com That's where you can see these anybody can go there
3:10:43
by the way, take a look at these beautiful rings for knights and
3:10:46
for dame's you can size your finger there's a little guide
3:10:48
there that shows you how to do it. And then you will send us
3:10:52
the address and the name that it has to go to. It's all on the
3:10:54
form that you can fill out at no agenda rings.com that comes with
3:10:59
some wax to seal your important correspondence with because they
3:11:02
are Signet rings. When you hit someone in the mouth, you know
3:11:04
it leaves a lasting impression and of course, a certificate of
3:11:07
authenticity and thank you again and welcome to the roundtable
3:11:10
our brand new night and day no one
3:11:20
yes, the no agenda meetups are the companion to the show. If
3:11:23
you've never been to one you're really missing out. I have a
3:11:26
quick meet up report from beach girl who had not no audio
3:11:29
reports today. It was at the Higginbotham Connecticut truck
3:11:33
bar ugly sweater party meet up report. Send us a great picture.
3:11:36
Everyone had an ugly Christmas sweater on. And she says it was
3:11:39
fantastic. We had 17 attendees including some new faces. It was
3:11:43
a beautiful December day. 50 or so degrees in Connecticut felt
3:11:46
more like fall. Most of us were festive or an ugly Christmas
3:11:49
sweater. The pizza provided by sea. CT Ken thank you so much he
3:11:55
can drinks and conversation we're all great. No agenda
3:11:58
producers are the best. It was great to be around 17 like
3:12:01
minded people and we could all be ourselves with ugly sweaters.
3:12:05
Can't wait for the next meetup. Adam and John Merry Christmas.
3:12:08
Thank you for your courage. Hope you enjoy the picture from the
3:12:10
meetup enjoyed it very much beach girl thank you so much.
3:12:13
Today there is a meetup taking place at the Mile High meetup
3:12:16
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado we'll be kicking off at
3:12:19
630 and on Saturday it's important you hear this if
3:12:24
you're in Texas, it's the first northwest Houston meat shoot.
3:12:28
That's always fun man. Go shoot some guns with a whole bunch of
3:12:31
people. When you when you get no agenda people no agenda
3:12:35
producers at a at a meat shoot. They bring crazy guns and
3:12:39
they'll let you shoot them to black powder guns, machine guns,
3:12:43
all kinds of nutty firearms. So if you're into that or if you've
3:12:46
never, never shot a gun in your life, they will safely help you
3:12:49
do that. And this is the Saddle River Range at noon and Conroe
3:12:54
Texas and Sir Economic Hitman is organizing that in New
3:12:57
Hampshire. You can meet at 1230 on Saturday at the community
3:13:01
oven in Epping, New Hampshire for the meetup on Saturday, the
3:13:05
ITM Richmond meetup at 1230 at glass Chester Brewing Company in
3:13:09
Gloucester, Virginia. Fort Worth has the freeze peach meet up at
3:13:14
one o'clock at Flipz Patio Grill that's in Fort Worth, Texas. The
3:13:17
shrunken Amiga support group Cincinnati meets at two o'clock
3:13:20
a task group corium on Saturday in Cincinnati, Ohio. Man there's
3:13:25
a lot here, the overturning tables and chasing out the money
3:13:28
changes Christmas party. It won't be at the local tap and
3:13:31
Lansdale, Pennsylvania on Saturday 233 the flight of the
3:13:35
no agenda is that's in Los Angeles number 47 Leo brava
3:13:38
hosts out at the proud bird 333 Pacific Time, Central Ohio
3:13:43
meeting at 333 A Dempsey's in Columbus on Saturday the THC
3:13:47
meetup at Camden beer hall London London Hello London four
3:13:51
o'clock GMT time Camden beer hall London UK make sure you go
3:13:56
check out Greg is organizing that on Saturday and finally the
3:13:59
next show day is Sunday we have two meetups taking place them
3:14:03
the SX M salt and soda water meet up 330 at Fat Tony
3:14:07
Smokehouse in St. St. Maarten St. Martin Sint Maarten St.
3:14:13
Martin? The island I guess. And also on Sunday, the final one
3:14:18
long views lively laugh loaded mid month monthly meet up 333 At
3:14:23
rotos pizzeria Longview, Texas go Texas. Three meetups coming
3:14:27
up in the next couple of days. There's a lot more to see and a
3:14:29
lot more to experience at no agenda. meetups.com you can find
3:14:34
meetups anywhere in the world almost. They're taking place all
3:14:38
the time. If you miss one, don't worry. There's always another
3:14:41
one coming up. You heard it like minded people. You can wear your
3:14:44
ugly sweater you can hang out with people, no condemnation.
3:14:48
You will be surprised at the cool people you meet and you're
3:14:50
not the only crazy one. No agenda enough.com If you can't
3:14:53
find one near you start one yourself. It's very easy and
3:14:56
always a party
3:15:00
Unknown: With the Dyson days, you won't be triggered. You will
3:15:11
be buddy feels the same
3:15:15
Adam Curry: is like a pot. Like a party, like a party like a
3:15:19
party, you got to meet ISOs you got ISOs?
3:15:23
John C Dvorak: I do, but I want to read something first. Okay.
3:15:26
So, Patricia Lewis wrote in card and she says, I just want to
3:15:33
mention this, I think we deduced her grandson, J. Jackson, she
3:15:39
says sent you comment on my lovely handwriting each time I
3:15:42
send a donation. You can attribute to find penmanship to
3:15:48
the tutelage of the Sisters of Mercy. Of to Lemoore Ireland.
3:15:53
Oh, they
3:15:53
Adam Curry: wrapped her knuckles with a ruler. That's
3:15:56
John C Dvorak: what I'm thinking she has the almost exact same
3:15:58
handwriting as Tina, but I think that I don't want to insult
3:16:03
Patricia. But I think Tina is is actually even more fine. And now
3:16:09
we need to know how Tina learned to write like that. Was she in a
3:16:16
Catholic school where they beat her?
3:16:19
Adam Curry: I don't think so. But she is a perfectionist. And
3:16:24
she always wants to be very good at school for a whole bunch of
3:16:28
reasons. Oh, well, she's one of those she would do her homework
3:16:31
and but that that handwriting, I know. I'm like, Hey, babe, can
3:16:35
you write out that check for the for the pool guy. It's like, why
3:16:38
can't you write us if Come on? Are you kidding me? Like you're
3:16:41
given the guy a piece of art. And he's like, Oh, I don't even
3:16:44
want to cash this check. It's so beautiful. That's how beautiful
3:16:48
it is. I will ask her though. I think
3:16:51
John C Dvorak: she just I will put a I will ask for both
3:16:55
ladies. Yes. Right. I'm gonna give him something to write out.
3:16:59
I'm gonna write out my put in a newsletter and we can do a test.
3:17:02
Oh, it's a write off. Right off the shoulder.
3:17:07
Adam Curry: Andrew writing showdown. Okay, yeah, she'll be
3:17:10
happy to send that to you. I will. I will remind the whatever
3:17:13
she needs to do you let me know. We'll send it off.
3:17:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something will happen tomorrow, but it
3:17:17
will help out please.
3:17:18
Adam Curry: You got me all excited. All right. What are
3:17:21
your ISOs I have to Okay.
3:17:25
John C Dvorak: Let's see. What are they? Let's start with
3:17:30
congrats. Congratulations. Oh,
3:17:33
Adam Curry: nice. I like it. I like it. I like it. It's,
3:17:36
John C Dvorak: it's to the point. It's crisp, crisp and
3:17:39
think about that.
3:17:40
Adam Curry: And I want you to think about that. Yeah, yes.
3:17:44
Okay. Let me see what I have. Check your barn door that one I
3:17:52
have you need to get out more.
3:17:55
John C Dvorak: You send that one to me.
3:17:57
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. diddly doo. model and then this has been a
3:18:02
lot of fun that we should stay in touch.
3:18:05
Unknown: Kind of like that one.
3:18:09
Adam Curry: Only like Well,
3:18:12
John C Dvorak: to be honest about it. The last one I do like
3:18:15
it too but it's a little long. Especially when you have it
3:18:17
sitting just because congrats but think about that. He might
3:18:20
tour short and sweet.
3:18:26
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an executive decision.
3:18:28
Congratulations. Yeah, that's cute. I like congratulation we
3:18:31
just keep it a congratulate that's very for Google.
3:18:36
Unknown: It's time
3:18:37
Adam Curry: JC once again I'm Mimi works very hard all week
3:18:41
when she's not working at the candle. When she's not working
3:18:44
with J at the publishing company. She is out there. Just
3:18:47
digging around for good news. She has so much that John has
3:18:51
Dell used under good news what is your this
3:18:53
John C Dvorak: one I cut down because they're all local from
3:18:56
local stations from Utah too long and they run too long. They
3:18:59
run two and a half three minutes sometimes for two I cut this one
3:19:03
down it was a tube something this guy could have done if some
3:19:06
58 seconds but this is about and I believe local news channels
3:19:10
all have these stories. This is a 16 year old. Fit 16 Amazing of
3:19:18
fit 16 year old who's pumping iron and has a heart just stops
3:19:24
Unknown: a cash counting team is recovering at Primary Children's
3:19:27
Hospital after his heart stopped while lifting weights at
3:19:30
school. Witnesses say a trainer at that school jumped into
3:19:34
action there saved his life new special Shara Park joins us live
3:19:37
from the hospital tonight. Shara. How's Dean Phillips doing
3:19:40
this evening.
3:19:42
Mike and dini. As you can imagine, it has been a very
3:19:44
difficult and emotional 24 hours for 16 year old Dean Phillips,
3:19:48
with permission from the family close family friend tells us
3:19:52
that he was in and out of sedation and intubation while he
3:19:56
was in ICU and every try every time they tried to bring him out
3:19:59
of that He was agitated and incoherent. But then today, a
3:20:03
major step in his recovery, they were able to bring him out of
3:20:06
sedation, and he was able to talk with his parents and start
3:20:09
asking them questions about what happened. Now Dean's heart
3:20:13
stopped yesterday afternoon while lifting weights with his
3:20:16
friends at Skyview High School in Smithfield, grateful
3:20:19
to have quick access to the right people and the right
3:20:21
resources. Sure, thanks.
3:20:23
Adam Curry: That's not good news. That kid has an evacs
3:20:25
injury or something. This is not good news to
3:20:28
John C Dvorak: x injury to houses that happened to make an
3:20:31
assumption like that.
3:20:34
Unknown: A good news story from JC de had the vibes for you and
3:20:40
me and we all feel better now he's done his bit. To the back
3:20:46
to reality. That's turning to shit.
3:20:48
Adam Curry: That's good news. At the end of every single no
3:20:51
agenda show. We are long today, everybody, but we gave you a lot
3:20:54
of deconstruction. I hope you enjoyed it. Because one day,
3:20:59
it's all going to end and you'll have you'll be stuck with one
3:21:03
news AI.
3:21:06
John C Dvorak: Channel one,
3:21:07
Adam Curry: that's Channel One News, AI. That's all you're
3:21:09
gonna have. So get ready for those days just says come in.
3:21:14
That's Oh, it's definitely coming. But you know, we could
3:21:18
just sit at home collect checks, and the AI just looks at every
3:21:21
story and goes, Oh, I know how to do this. They would be very
3:21:25
funny. But we'll start with you. Coming up next on no agenda
3:21:32
stream.com We have mere mortals which is our buddy Kyron from
3:21:36
Down Under. It's a book review. How would aliens wage war chyron
3:21:42
I love you chyron. In your show makes his Fletcher Steve Jones
3:21:47
and Matty J. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas
3:21:50
Hill Country and I say in the morning to you. I'm Adam curry,
3:21:55
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're
3:21:58
going to have some rain this weekend. Yay for us. I'm John C.
3:22:01
Dvorak.
3:22:02
Adam Curry: We've gotten rain and it's cold yay for us here.
3:22:06
Remember us the divorce act.org/na Looking forward to
3:22:09
seeing you all on Sunday till then adios Mufasa Hui noise Hey
3:22:18
John C Dvorak: once it was reluctantly around it was hard
3:22:21
to get it aroused and it is hard to get an arrest but we got
3:22:28
everywhere else around the country is doing this together
3:22:31
dress just keep it up get it wrapped together it's going to
3:22:41
be engendered now is to get into a house I'll give you the gist
3:22:48
of it quick get some white stuff somebody helped me out here all
3:22:52
cash baby stay calm the guys because they wouldn't even say
3:23:05
going even
3:23:15
Unknown: bigger apps scorpion is made in total. They were asked
3:23:23
to change it and he wouldn't do that.
3:23:27
John C Dvorak: This is a crisis. This is all amateur hour. This
3:23:31
is all stuff done in the controller or done by somebody
3:23:34
who's not a good guy and done on purpose. As
3:23:37
Unknown: stupid have we been?
3:23:39
Of course people got all kinds of fun clips. How stupid have we
3:23:43
been people making songs from that
3:23:46
if you have social media that is dominated by algorithms that
3:23:54
pull people down these rabbit holes rabbit holes, rabbit
3:23:59
holes, rabbit holes, these algorithms they are the digital
3:24:04
equivalent of AR fifteens they ought to be banned but when
3:24:11
these when people are pulled down these rabbit holes, rabbit
3:24:15
holes, you know what's at the bottom of the rabbit hole rabbit
3:24:27
quiet to ask what's up
3:24:37
John C Dvorak: artificial insanity
3:24:44
Unknown: I just signed another $200 million drawdown to the
3:24:49
Department of Defense for Ukraine. Thank you. Thank you
3:25:09
We're gonna bring in Isabella surgical to Melbourne where
3:25:12
researchers they may have found a possible cure for COVID 19.
3:25:16
Using a treatment that is cheap and available to everyone is a
3:25:19
so what is it? Well, it's a headless treatment. It's called
3:25:23
ivermectin and attendees.
3:25:27
Know what this is. This is ivermectin for humans to win a
3:25:30
Nobel Prizes anti feral. See this Fauci see this Bill Gates.
3:25:33
I'm gonna kill those prions You bastard murderers in him with a
3:25:36
bio weapons monster. You want to suppress me want to kill the son
3:25:40
of a bitch, you goddamn demon. He's like, I'm easy to kill. And
3:25:44
I sure wish you'd wake up
3:25:46
in a petri dish. This can kill two cells and cause 19 Joe
3:25:52
Rogan kicks your murder and as to you'd love to bury him to
3:25:54
your little monster magnet. He's in this National Geographic
3:25:57
piece about oh, I don't usually deal with my enemies right away.
3:26:00
I get them later. You creep up on with a poison injections,
3:26:03
dressed up in a lab coat little Josef Mengele, Nuremberg Code
3:26:06
violating monster get damn monster
3:26:18
Lobo boruch.org/and Congratulations
0:00 0:00