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Adam Curry: China because China
China China, Adam curry, John C.
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Devora. December 14 2023. This
is your award winning your
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nation media assassination
episode 1616. This
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Unknown: is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: monitoring the
informed memories and
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broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
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in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: curry in from
Northern Silicon Valley where
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I've come to the conclusion that
Drew Barrymore is an annoying
0:29
phony. I'm John C. Dvorak,
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Of all the
people, I would think you talk
0:38
about Drew Barrymore would be
low, close to the bottom of the
0:41
list. What happened? How did you
how did you even come on? I
0:46
mean, her show was on during the
day. It's
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John C Dvorak: also on locally,
it's, it's on during the day,
0:51
but it's also on 1130 at night.
Oh, really? Yeah. They should
0:56
late night for some reason.
0:58
Adam Curry: That's, I mean, does
anyone watch regular broadcast
1:00
TV anymore?
1:02
John C Dvorak: I do. Where do
you think I get these clips? I
1:05
mean,
1:07
Adam Curry: I mean, normal
people. I mean, the normal
1:09
people still watch this. And
everyone like just Netflix in
1:13
streaming of numbers. There's
numbers. There's numbers. Yeah,
1:16
they got numbers, but it's not
like old numbers, not like
1:18
number go
1:18
John C Dvorak: old numbers.
Those were numbers, numbers.
1:21
That's when we were working in
television. 100 million people
1:24
would watch one show. We got
Limo
1:26
Adam Curry: Service and our
money in a brown paper bag. And
1:29
we're those days. Yeah.
1:30
John C Dvorak: Those days are
over.
1:33
Adam Curry: And that was cable.
Those days are long gone. Long
1:38
gone. Oh, man. There's so much
going on. There's a lot of fun
1:42
things to talk about. There is
really Yes. I'm excited. Yes,
1:47
yes, it is. This what? Well,
there's there's the obvious
1:55
marketing that happens every it
happens once a year. Once a
1:59
year, we got to go and we've got
to go promote the military
2:04
industrial complex. Once a year.
What not the militant? No, for
2:08
the for the NDA. You know, this
is the $800
2:14
John C Dvorak: American public?
Yeah. $808
2:18
Adam Curry: million. Yeah. So of
course, you're not gonna hear
2:22
what's really in the bill. I
have started to read it. It's
2:25
it's another doozy. Matt gates,
though, I'll give it to him. At
2:29
least he stood up. And he said,
No, no, no. There's a lot of
2:33
good in here. But there's a lot
of there's some things we have
2:35
to take out.
2:36
Unknown: I regret that I rise in
opposition to this NDA, because
2:40
there is a great deal of good in
it. But only in Washington, must
2:44
we bring a bill to the floor so
that we are able to militarily
2:48
confront China, while at the
same time embracing the policies
2:53
that make the United States more
like China. There is no desire
3:00
on the part of our great armed
services chairman and even the
3:02
Democrats we worked with to have
an extension of spying
3:06
authorities put in this bill,
when we have already seen those
3:10
authorities just totally abused
278,000 violations of the
3:16
existing law, as the FBI has
queried information regarding
3:21
Americans. When the Obama
appointed Inspector General was
3:26
reviewing whether or not the
administration was complying
3:29
with existing law. They found
out we were breaking the law 38
3:33
times an hour to extend to the
authorities for good word being
3:38
violated so that people, the FBI
could do queries on their
3:42
neighbors, their co workers,
their ex lovers that's not
3:46
belong in the National Defense
Authorization Act.
3:49
Adam Curry: Oh, Mr. Gates,
you're on the naughty list? No,
3:51
no, no, no.
3:52
John C Dvorak: Just stop for a
second and ask yourself, if you
3:56
have access to these, these
systems, and you knew there was
4:01
no repercussions for abusing
them, but in other words, going
4:04
and looking up your neighbors or
looking after your ex
4:07
girlfriends? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Now, if there's no consequences,
4:15
no, there, there, it appears
there's none whatsoever. Yeah,
4:21
that's what you're going to do.
You're going to look up your
4:23
pals and everybody in between.
Sure. So
4:26
Adam Curry: the way this works,
and we've done this for a number
4:29
of years, whenever so Matt Gaetz
is on the wrong side of history
4:33
here, obviously. I mean, he shut
up Matt gates, I didn't get that
4:37
off C span. You didn't see that
one anywhere. Of course, we've
4:40
been tracking the section 702
FISA Bri renewal which is just
4:46
barely talked about now. It
shouldn't be renewed, but it
4:49
will be there will be and what
we need to do, the way we run it
4:52
in America is we have to ratchet
up the fear. Now he had the
4:57
right start. He said You know,
well of course we want to be
5:00
Good China because China China,
China, you know, we all you need
5:03
to do is you need to have oh,
have the alien guy go on Tucker
5:08
Carlson because oh, we need more
space stuff for the military.
5:11
It's all in there growing
5:12
Unknown: tensions between the US
and China now extending to
5:15
hundreds of miles above the
Earth.
5:18
John C Dvorak: We know when
we're threatened, we need to be
5:20
able to counter the threat
5:21
Unknown: to get an inside look
at some of the latest American
5:24
technology to counter the
Chinese threat. We went to
5:27
United Launch alliances factory
in Alabama, working on defenses
5:31
against things like Chinese
satellites that can use robotic
5:34
arms to drag other satellites.
Meanings China could disable
5:39
critical American communication
knights
5:42
were actually
5:43
able to grapple grab a hold of
one of their defunct GPS or beta
5:47
satellites. What
5:48
is the concern about them having
that kind of capability in
5:51
space,
5:51
anything that can interact with
the spacecraft for servicing is
5:57
inherently capable of
interacting with a spacecraft to
6:00
harm it, or to gather
intelligence from it.
6:02
And fears tonight that China is
moving faster than the US in
6:06
this new space race. But the
skies just above us just not
6:11
only using satellites, but spies
and hypersonic missiles. And
6:16
multiple US military officials
tell us perhaps most concerning
6:20
multiple officials China
launched a hypersonic missile
6:23
capable of orbiting the globe
over and over then suddenly
6:27
dropping to Earth before most
missile defenses are spawned by
6:31
Russia
6:31
had that we continue to look at
that very closely. Yeah,
6:35
John C Dvorak: let's go back we
have to look at a lot of this
6:37
stuff logically. Yes. So it's
gonna go into orbit and and
6:43
orbit over and
6:44
Adam Curry: over and over. Yeah,
it's nuclear. Of course. It just
6:46
goes forever. We have a big
solar panel on
6:49
John C Dvorak: it. So it goes
around and around and then it
6:52
drops down. We can't see it. We
don't know that.
6:56
Adam Curry: No, not without $886
billion of Boeing all we need we
7:00
need modeling box most
7:02
Unknown: concerning. China
launched a hypersonic missile
7:05
capable of orbiting the globe
over and over, then suddenly
7:09
dropping to Earth before most
missile defense systems can
7:12
respond most.
7:13
We continue to look at that very
closely. But that's a capability
7:15
they just recently demonstrated
just
7:17
recently examples of fence
lasers, lasers outmaneuver the
7:22
speed of light laser, no lasers.
7:25
Adam Curry: Now, I'm going to
play play one wow.
7:30
John C Dvorak: Got it cost a big
dough.
7:32
Adam Curry: I want to play one
more here. Because we have to
7:36
remember, we all got to be your
fearful fearful of China.
7:40
Unknown: I'm staying on the
topic of China. A scary new
7:42
report from The Washington Post
was
7:44
Adam Curry: scary. Ha ha scary
new report from the WaPo.
7:48
Reading how
7:48
Unknown: China's military is
likely behind a number of
7:51
hackers who have gained computer
access to the systems of about
7:55
two dozen key American
infrastructure facilities around
7:57
the nation. Some of the
apparently hacked sites include
8:01
a water utility in Hawaii on the
West Coast oh no oil and gas
8:06
pipeline report notes that
hackers also tried to gain
8:09
access to the Texas power grid
Now thankfully, power grid X is
8:16
raising an alarm pack to China
could use hackers to bring down
8:19
key services in America from
power plants pipelines and at
8:22
the safety of your watering
broken a dying is now is former
8:25
director of the cybersecurity
and infrastructure security
8:27
traps. Chris Krebs. Welcome
back. am I overstating this? No,
8:33
I
8:33
read the story.
8:35
It seems pretty scary. Scary.
8:37
Adam Curry: Pretty scary. This
guy is what kind of push you are
8:39
you. So pretty scary. It
8:41
Unknown: seemed pretty scary.
Every
8:43
Brian you're not alone, is I
talked to national security
8:46
officials. They're extremely
concerned about the access that
8:50
Chinese cyber actors were able
to get in not just strategic
8:53
targets, but more broadly, and
seemingly random or ad hoc
8:58
infrastructures across the
country. And they've come to the
9:02
simple conclusion that this is
not just about disruption and
9:05
destruction for military
purposes, but for also just
9:09
broader societal panic and chaos
and escalation of hostility. And
9:14
that's
9:14
John C Dvorak: isn't that what
these guys are doing now? This
9:16
Adam Curry: is what sold it for
me.
9:18
John C Dvorak: This panic and
can't cry now. This news worked
9:21
for the Chinese. No,
9:22
Adam Curry: no. This is where we
bring in now. We couldn't say
9:26
Chinese because Hollywood's not
allowed to do that anymore. We
9:29
had to say Korea was unclear if
was North Korea or South Korea,
9:33
South Korea and Iran right on
time right on target. Enter the
9:37
Obama has
9:39
Unknown: something wrong with a
TV that's all messed up. It
9:43
mean, it
9:45
could be over in a couple of
hours.
9:49
I'm sure this will turn out to
be a big nothing. We'll look
9:54
back on this one day and laugh I
guarantee you
9:57
think that ship is heading
towards us. And
10:01
what would it what does that
mean? We shouldn't speculate.
10:05
You can pick up on what's going
on. And not panic over nothing.
10:11
I don't think this is nothing.
We're in this together and
10:17
things get back.
10:19
There is no going back to
10:26
Adam Curry: the finish we're
gonna be okay. Right? Yeah. And
10:37
that's my take on the entire
reason for connecting the Obamas
10:42
name to leaving the world behind
and otherwise, okay, movie
10:47
mediocre at best. What made it
creepy was the whole the Obamas
10:51
produced it. And the whole point
because they literally talk
10:54
about chaos and fear. That is
that's part of the strategy at
10:59
the end of the movie. Spoiler
alert. Sorry. This is all to get
11:04
the to get people focused on Oh,
yes, we need oh, we need more
11:07
military. It's okay. We need
that $900 billion dollars to go
11:12
to Raytheon and Boeing. And what
are they like four companies
11:15
now?
11:16
John C Dvorak: Lockheed,
11:17
Adam Curry: Lockheed. That's
that's what this is all about
11:20
Obama, this movie was already
purchased. By the time they got
11:24
cut. They were added on to the
bill. They didn't produce
11:28
anything. And all they you know,
okay, so a little bit of racism
11:32
stuff. And then whatever they
added
11:33
John C Dvorak: to racism, and
they didn't add shit,
11:36
Adam Curry: John? No, I have the
whole rundown here. They were
11:40
brought in after the movie was
cast after it was written. It
11:44
was good to go. They're only
attached because they have a $65
11:48
million deal. And they have to
put gotta put their name on
11:52
something and this legitimizes
the whole fear and chaos. Did
11:56
you see the movie by any chance?
Did you see the whole thing?
11:58
John C Dvorak: I did you read
the newsletter? Well, I, you
12:01
know,
12:01
Adam Curry: from the newsletter
didn't seem to me like you would
12:03
read the whole thing, because
you put enps in there, which
12:06
were explicitly not a part of
this movie. So did you watch it?
12:11
John C Dvorak: I watched
probably about a quarter of it.
12:14
It's very hard to watch. I
12:15
Adam Curry: watched the whole
thing.
12:17
John C Dvorak: It's slow move.
Why you must have been bored
12:19
stiff? No,
12:21
Adam Curry: I reserved for the
show.
12:23
John C Dvorak: It's slow moving.
It's slow moving. The only thing
12:29
I thought was funny was the
Tesla have seen I think that was
12:32
kind of funny. But
12:34
Adam Curry: could it be any more
coincidental, we get the Tesla
12:38
seen. And today, let's start
12:41
Unknown: with the bad news. This
recall affects almost all Tesla
12:44
vehicles sold in the United
States. This comes after a two
12:47
year investigation by the
National Highway Traffic Safety
12:50
Administration. They found that
the company's autopilot mode can
12:54
provide inadequate driver
engagement that can lead to
12:56
misuse of the system. The
investigation also found that
12:59
using autopilot mode incorrectly
or failing to recognize that it
13:03
is on can lead to a higher risk
of accident now now. Okay, we
13:06
Adam Curry: don't have to hear
the whole report. But the
13:08
coincidence of this happening
right now. That was that was
13:13
probably the highlight of the
movie. I thought that was
13:15
hilarious.
13:16
John C Dvorak: I well would. But
it was a plot hole because I
13:20
just wanted any one of many.
Because I immediately asked the
13:24
question is where are these
Tesla's coming from? And why are
13:28
they all on the same road? And
they're smashing into each
13:30
other? I mean, who set them on
this path? There was never this
13:34
a question. It was never
answered, or ash actually cyber
13:37
Adam Curry: hack. It was cyber
and if you watch the movie, what
13:41
you saw was a close up that
showed the tags on all these
13:45
cars, they had been driven right
off that auto.
13:49
John C Dvorak: She looks at the
tag and that's when she realizes
13:52
that Tesla's are coming Yes. The
Tesla saw that she she yells at
13:57
her husband to get out of the
way because it's going to ram it
14:00
into their SUV that sitting
there and so then they dodge a
14:03
bunch of Tesla's coming down the
road but that doesn't tell me
14:07
that it was anyone who's give me
the Tesla factories are not in
14:11
where they are which is in the
East Coast. And it couldn't
14:14
there's no dealership with 1000s
of Tesla's and I know they're
14:18
all white we
14:19
Adam Curry: can both agree that
it's full of holes airplanes
14:23
don't come crashing out of the
sky because because of because
14:28
of an airplanes are crashing out
of the sky. But the drone
14:33
dropping leaflets has no
problem. You know so what was
14:36
it? You what you hacked the
system on the plane, every
14:39
single one. I mean, all of it
was ridiculous. They have power
14:42
for days. Here they have power.
They have power for days. Now
14:47
this whole the whole thing was
full of technical holes. I will
14:51
say the end. So the little girl
finds a safe room in the
14:56
neighbor's, like a bunker in the
neighbors house and they pop on
15:01
a ham radio kit. And it's
actually pretty accurate tune to
15:05
a frequency that is our TTY. It
has, you know, our TTY coming in
15:11
that. Someone who was a ham
operator did that part I was
15:14
that was one like, Okay, that
was good. It would have been in
15:17
the book that might have been
everything else was just Yeah,
15:22
maybe. Okay. And there's a
little bit of racial stuff in
15:26
there which gets highlighted.
But the main thing is they
15:29
didn't call out China because
they can't because Netflix can't
15:33
and Hollywood can't call out
China in their movies. So they
15:37
call it curry.
15:39
John C Dvorak: You can if you
don't want to get distribution
15:42
whatsoever,
15:42
Adam Curry: yes, if you don't
want to go anywhere, but I
15:45
thought the timing of the
release with all these other
15:47
stories, literally with the plot
of the movie, or the payoff is
15:53
oh, this is the big strategy of
our adversaries is first you cut
15:58
off communications then you
confuse us then you've got chaos
16:01
and fear and then we all turn on
each other except at the end of
16:05
course, the white Karen mom
holds hands with the with the
16:09
black teenage girl. And then
it's all great. We're all going
16:13
to survive I guess we'll make it
together. And please pass that
16:18
bill. That was the whole point
of it in my mind. Jack people up
16:26
John C Dvorak: everything's did
Jack people up.
16:28
Adam Curry: Yeah, but this was
special.
16:32
John C Dvorak: This was
especially hard to watch. Well,
16:36
I
16:36
Adam Curry: had no problem
watching the whole thing. Well,
16:38
I'm
16:38
John C Dvorak: sorry. I don't
know. Maybe when you get my age.
16:41
Here you will have you look at
things like this and go I don't
16:45
have time for this.
16:48
Adam Curry: I woke up this
morning at 330 and realized oh
16:52
crap, I'm 59 Where did it go?
Are
16:55
John C Dvorak: you going to be
69? No.
16:57
Adam Curry: Where did it go? I'm
like What am I doing? What am I
17:00
doing my life? I'm watching
these movies.
17:06
John C Dvorak: Watching it
through. I can see he's got I
17:10
can't get to sleep. Maybe this
will help.
17:13
Adam Curry: People like Thanks,
man. You spoil the movie for me.
17:16
No, please watch.
17:17
John C Dvorak: No, there's no
way you can there's no set this
17:20
point there is no such thing as
a spoiler in this movie. No,
17:24
there's not. Because there's no
plot twist. There's nothing
17:27
you're looking at at all though.
He's an actually an alien. There
17:31
was none of that. There was no
plot twist whatsoever. You can't
17:36
spoil this
17:36
Adam Curry: movie. Oh, you just
go. Now you spoil it that
17:39
there's no there's no plot this
plot is actually
17:41
John C Dvorak: that is the
spoiler. The spoiler is there's
17:44
no spoiler. Yeah. It's like
Fight Club.
17:47
Adam Curry: But it was the I
mean, the whole you know, cyber
17:50
attack radiation in cities. The
one thing I learned from this is
17:54
don't live in a city. That's
what I learned from the movie.
17:58
bad place to be. You
18:00
John C Dvorak: learn that before
the movie. What do you think I'm
18:02
here in Fredericksburg.
18:03
Unknown: Now it's time both
free? Yes. Experiment by JC
18:09
comparing stories from ABC, CBS.
18:13
Adam Curry: That's right,
everybody in the headlines.
18:16
Johnson diboride has pulled him
for us. And where
18:19
John C Dvorak: do I do?
Actually,
18:20
Adam Curry: I know you do. I
have
18:22
John C Dvorak: a couple of
choices this week or this show.
18:25
And I picked this group this is
a because it's got Richard
18:29
angle. Beautiful, beautiful. So
this is about this is the same
18:37
exact story if you listened to
the the two we're gonna play
18:40
first, which is NBC and ABC in
either order to start with ABC
18:44
but these are the stories of of
what's going on in Gaza.
18:48
Regarding the tunnels, they're
gonna flood them and it's got
18:51
this exact same script quote
from Biden cut exactly the same.
18:56
It's as though ABC and NBC are
actually the same newsroom is
19:00
pathetic, to be honest about it.
Then we go to CBS at the end,
19:04
where they actually introduced
new information, which I thought
19:07
was cool, but let's start with
ABC. Tonight,
19:09
Unknown: Israel flooding the
vast labyrinth of tunnels under
19:12
Gaza where Hamas leaders are
believed to be hiding according
19:15
to US officials. This image
circulating online shows what
19:18
appear to be recently laid pipes
running from the sea to the
19:22
shore. The IDF isn't commenting,
but Israel's fighting to cripple
19:25
Hamas is underground tunnel
network of concerns tonight
19:28
about the safety of the 135
remaining hostages, including
19:32
Americans who may remain in
those tunnels.
19:35
There's assertions being made
that there's quite sure there
19:40
are no hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know that
19:44
for a fact
19:45
and President Biden today
without warning to Israel saying
19:48
they're starting to lose the
world support because of their
19:51
quote, indiscriminate bombing of
Gaza, speaking off camera to
19:55
fundraiser, Biden with some of
his harshest criticism yet for
19:58
Prime Minister Netanyahu Calling
is government, the most
20:01
conservative in Israel's
history. Biden also suggesting
20:04
the most right wing Israeli
leaders want, quote retribution,
20:08
not only against Hamas, but
against all Palestinians saying
20:11
they don't want a two state
solution. Biden's comments
20:14
exposing a growing divide
between the two leaders. I mean,
20:17
we're all Benjamin Netanyahu
saying today he and the
20:19
President disagree about who
will govern Gaza after the war.
20:23
But Israel's first offensive
rages on in Gaza. More than
20:26
18,000 Palestinians have been
killed according to the Hamas
20:30
run health ministry
20:31
Adam Curry: now there's our
there's our health ministry
20:33
again Yeah,
20:33
John C Dvorak: and verify but
they won't say that. Everything
20:36
else he says unverified but
there's no verification and by
20:40
the way, the most conservative
ever that's that included when
20:43
they had that guy with the
eyepatch.
20:47
Adam Curry: Moshe Moshe Moshe
Dayan.
20:50
John C Dvorak: And yeah, that
20:51
Adam Curry: that now that was a
guy. Yeah, it
20:52
John C Dvorak: was conservative.
20:54
Adam Curry: That was a look.
20:56
John C Dvorak: That was a look.
20:57
Adam Curry: I was a Look man,
that iPad to do that. I was a
21:00
governor.
21:00
John C Dvorak: He was a tough
son of a bitch. Yeah,
21:03
Adam Curry: he was he was okay.
So
21:04
John C Dvorak: we're gonna go to
Richard Engel, who's going to
21:06
basically give almost an
identical report is kind of
21:09
scrambled a little bit I think
there's also some sound effects.
21:12
And as dough Engel is anywhere
but in some hotel
21:16
Adam Curry: ops as we know not
to pops, pop tops Yes.
21:20
John C Dvorak: And so we're
gonna get a little bit of that
21:22
and angles always more
breathless. He's He's very good
21:25
at this. Here we go.
21:27
Unknown: He's realist, pushing
ahead with its devastating
21:29
ground offensive in Gaza,
fighting door to door to
21:32
overthrow Hamas. By send tonight
a US official tells NBC News
21:37
Israel is pumping seawater to
flood Hamas tunnels in limited
21:41
areas of Gaza, saying it's
unclear if it will work. There
21:44
is
21:45
assertions being made that
there's quite sure there are no
21:49
hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know. But I
21:52
don't know that for a fact.
21:54
Israel's military campaign is
now sparking tensions with the
21:57
White House. President Biden
speaking earlier at a fundraiser
22:00
today saying Israel is right to
take on Hamas, and has most of
22:04
the world supporting them. But
they're starting to lose support
22:07
by indiscriminate bombing in
Gaza. And that Israeli Prime
22:11
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is
government has to change. You
22:14
can't say there's no Palestinian
state in the future. The
22:18
administration wants the more
moderate Palestinian authority
22:21
to take over postwar Gaza. But
does it Yeah, who is rejecting
22:24
that? Saying overnight, I will
not allow the entry into Gaza of
22:28
those who educate for terrorism
and support terrorism and
22:31
finance terrorism stung today,
six a group said the
22:35
humanitarian situation in Gaza
is in an apocalyptic freefall,
22:40
writing the war has killed more
than 7500 children more than all
22:45
global conflicts last year
combined.
22:48
Adam Curry: Oh, you forgot to
say according to the Hamas run
22:52
health ministry,
22:53
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, he said
it as though it was fact. Yeah.
22:56
Okay. I find that to be more
22:58
Adam Curry: than all children
combined. Does that include
23:00
Africa somehow? I don't think
so.
23:03
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's a good it's a good bit.
23:06
Unknown: A good bit.
23:08
John C Dvorak: It's a good bit
23:09
Adam Curry: it's a bit Sure.
23:10
John C Dvorak: So now we have it
is and so in that vein by the
23:13
way I do have some AMY GOODMAN
clips on the same thing and she
23:15
takes a different perspective
believe me. But so now we go to
23:21
CBS and so CBS really has some
new information is same report
23:28
exact same report except there's
new information. They add some
23:31
dimension to it. They pass off
the the flooding the tunnel is
23:36
is kind of okay. They don't
bring in that Joe Biden exact
23:40
same Joe Biden clip is I would
say CBS, if we're going to
23:45
analyze the three networks has
is doing the best of the three
23:48
doing the best job of the three.
23:54
Unknown: The Israeli military is
consolidating control in the
23:57
north, demolishing a UN school
allegedly used by Hamas in Beit
24:01
Hanoun Israeli soldiers cheered
Israel's defense minister says
24:05
fighting may still last for
months
24:08
Adam Curry: but you want what
were the Israeli soldiers
24:10
cheering about? Like yeah, we
got to school was that what was
24:13
that the point of that? is
pretty sick.
24:20
John C Dvorak: I have another
clip coming up later in the show
24:23
where somebody said a dog
barking or something in the
24:26
background makes no sense
whatsoever phone ring i Okay.
24:30
We'll play it later. In Beit
Hanoun
24:32
Unknown: Israeli soldiers cheer.
Defense Minister says fighting
24:37
may still last for months. But
us pressure is rising for Israel
24:41
to end its offensive sooner. I'm
looking at new pressure is also
24:45
rising against Israel's Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with
24:48
anger growing over an alleged
decade long agreement in which
24:52
Qatar sent up to $30 million in
cash to from us every month, a
24:57
strategy known as buying quiet
then
25:00
knew that the money was going
directly into purchasing of
25:03
rockets and building of tunnels.
Why didn't they stop the money?
25:07
Obviously, this concept blew up
in everybody's face on October
25:11
7. And tonight
25:12
in Jerusalem protesters braved
the rain to march on the Knesset
25:17
demanding Netanyahu bring all
hostages still in Gaza home and
25:21
calling for his resignation.
25:23
He knew what Hamas is doing with
this money. So he created some
25:29
monster. Some days a monster
came out. And
25:36
Israel's military has reportedly
started to pump seawater into
25:40
Hamas tunnel complexes in order
to destroy them. One concern
25:44
though, is that there may be
hostages in some of them. But
25:47
President Biden's tonight says
quote, There are assertions
25:49
being made. There are no
hostages inside.
25:52
Adam Curry: This has been an
interesting narrative. The the
25:55
idea that Bibi Netanyahu
himself, created this monster,
26:00
and then unleashed it and let it
happen because he loves killing
26:03
children. That's basically I
mean, yeah, that's kind of the
26:08
assertion. Now, when it comes to
26:10
John C Dvorak: a couple of weeks
clip, there's a couple of things
26:12
to note. One is the idea of
buying quiet. I like that term
26:17
buying quiet. I like it. I like
it, too. I like and if so, Qatar
26:22
who everyone thinks is kind of
behind Hamas. From this report,
26:28
which which I believe since it
comes from the network that
26:31
might have access to
information, the other was
26:33
don't. Qatar was actually
sending the 30 million a month
26:41
to the Hamas to tell him to just
calm down. So it was buying
26:46
quiet. The idea was they were
they were bribing them. So they
26:49
weren't the bad guys, Qatar.
They were the guys trying to
26:52
hey, here's some more money just
that's in quiet, calm. Congress,
26:57
I
26:57
Adam Curry: got a report reports
called outsource to Qatar and
27:03
the Qatar diaries. I'll just as
if that's, you know, they're all
27:07
like all the Hamas guys are in
one apartment, you know, hanging
27:11
out, eating kavika and drinking
whatever they have sent in, in
27:16
the last 20 years, according to
this report, $4.7 billion to US
27:24
universities, which would kind
of possibly explain the stance
27:29
that some of the presidents had
of these universities? That's a
27:33
lot of money. Yeah, like
hundreds of millions per
27:37
University. Yeah. And some of
them not the ones that were on
27:42
trial, by the way, but some of
them have, you know, campuses in
27:46
Qatar, the Qatar, these don't
seem like, like good guys. You
27:52
know, and they're buying
everything they're buying. They
27:54
bought soccer, and then just
basically buy it with the World
27:57
Cup and then go buy anything we
want.
28:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
free spenders.
28:03
Adam Curry: I think everyone who
was there, including Elon Musk
28:07
during the the World Cup does
should be condemned for it.
28:12
Hanging out with Qataris?
28:15
John C Dvorak: Well, nothing in
hindsight, yeah, no, it's not
28:17
Adam Curry: good. And Biden is
not doing himself any favors.
28:22
Did you see this? I mean, there
was more to that little speech
28:24
he did. Now, famously, when he
was a senator many years ago,
28:32
there's and we'd haven't played
this clip. Biden is out there
28:36
saying, You don't have to be a
Jew to be a Zionist. I'm a
28:38
Zionist. You've seen that clip.
Probably.
28:42
John C Dvorak: Remember it, he
doubled
28:43
Adam Curry: down on it. Just
during this speech,
28:46
Unknown: I got in trouble get
criticized very badly about the
28:49
southern part of my state and
some of the southern parts of
28:51
the country. When 35 years ago,
I said, you don't have to be due
28:56
to be a Zionist and I'm a
Zionist.
29:03
Adam Curry: This is not at
Harvard, by the way. You don't
29:05
Unknown: have to be a Zionist
folks. Were there no Israel,
29:10
there wouldn't be a June world
that was safe.
29:13
Adam Curry: Now he goes into
some now he goes into a famous
29:16
Biden I think is a lie. But
let's listen to the type
29:21
John C Dvorak: of document is a
lie.
29:30
Unknown: Make no bones about
I've had my difference with some
29:32
Israeli leadership. I've known
baby for now. 51 years. He has a
29:37
picture on his desk of he and I
when he was a young member of 51
29:42
Adam Curry: years he's known him
when Bibi was what at MIT or
29:46
where he was. I mean, Bibi
Netanyahu doesn't
29:48
John C Dvorak: make any sense.
He just makes this stuff. I
29:50
think he's making Israeli
29:54
Unknown: service here.
29:57
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, he was in
foreign service here. Oh, As a
30:00
spy at MIT,
30:01
Unknown: and I was a 32 year old
senator, payment
30:05
Adam Curry: 32 year olds, so
he's now 83 Is that how old he
30:09
is? So 51 years ago he was a 32
year old senator. He's not 83 No
30:17
of course not lie are nine
30:20
Unknown: don't agree the damn
thing had to say about the same
30:24
today
30:28
Adam Curry: he's not I mean, I
can just imagine if someone's
30:30
cringing like oh man, can we
keep where's
30:33
John C Dvorak: the 30,000 lies
list for this guy? Can
30:36
Adam Curry: somebody please call
YouTube and get that one deeply
30:39
pulled off? Oh, it's a short
already Oh no. Oh no, it's on
30:44
tick tock for last
30:49
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
like to play some my AMY GOODMAN
30:52
Unknown: morning. AMY GOODMAN
flippin
30:55
Adam Curry: bound All right, Amy
Goodman
30:58
John C Dvorak: All right. So we
were gonna play that this is
31:01
kind of those three by three
only this is the AMY GOODMAN
31:04
version, brother and it's called
the Gaza massacre. Is
31:08
Adam Curry: this is this equity
This is equity.
31:11
John C Dvorak: This is my
version of equity
31:13
Adam Curry: equity. Okay, very
good. All right, guys I've Gaza
31:16
massacre.
31:18
Unknown: In Gaza. Witnesses say
Israeli soldier shot displaced
31:22
people at point blank range
after they raided Chaga Abu
31:26
Salah school and the northern
Alfa Luigia area. According to
31:31
Al Jazeera newborn babies were
reportedly among the victims
31:34
heavy bombardment continues
throughout the Gaza Strip
31:37
including in Rafah and crime
Eunice where homes businesses
31:41
and schools were leveled and
Israeli attacks.
31:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. It
makes it doesn't but since
31:48
sounds credibly blank range Hey,
come here. Yeah. Well,
31:53
Adam Curry: they Hey, they blew
up the school and then they were
31:55
dancing. Yeah, we're happy about
that. They were happy about it.
31:59
We heard by them. I want to
point out war sucks. You know,
32:03
and war is horrible. But I was
what was I watching? Oh, man,
32:09
there was who was it? It was
someone was talking about I
32:15
should probably should have
clipped this. Oh, I know. It was
32:18
Norman Lear. I was listening to
Norman Lear. Interview from five
32:23
years ago. So he was well in his
90s. Then he was talking about
32:27
when he when that he recently
had gone to Berlin. He said it
32:31
was so weird, because when the
last time I was in Berlin,
32:36
wasn't World War Two. But I was
bombing. I do two bombing runs
32:39
of Berlin. And I knew that there
would be civilians there and I
32:43
was like, screw. The war does
weird things, too. He said,
32:47
Yeah. He said that he says
scrubs because they deserve it.
32:52
So war does weird things to
people. It's it's not. It's not
32:56
a good product. It's not a great
product. It's horrible. Now
32:59
John C Dvorak: I wanted to do
there was something in those
33:01
really reports Biden saying or
just discussing that you know,
33:06
that maybe the international
support is slipping a little bit
33:11
and blah, blah, blah. Yeah,
well, let's listen to this UN
33:14
votes US ally saying yet yes,
the UN
33:17
Unknown: General Assembly
Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to
33:19
call for an immediate
humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza.
33:22
153 un members approved the
resolution 23 Abstain just 10
33:28
including the United States
voted no. Though non binding the
33:33
UN vote is another indication of
the mounting isolation of the US
33:37
as it continues to support
Israel's assault, which has
33:40
killed at least 18,000
Palestinians in a little over
33:44
two months. Australia which
abstained from voting for the
33:49
General Assembly ceasefire
resolution in October is one of
33:52
the latest US allies to split
with Biden Administration's
33:56
position. This is Australia's
Foreign Minister Penny Hwang,
34:00
Australia,
34:01
alongside 152 Other countries
was among the countries which
34:06
voted in favor. In doing so. We
joined Canada, New Zealand,
34:11
Japan, France, and India and
many other countries. And in
34:17
doing so we have said Israel
must respect international
34:20
humanitarian law.
34:22
Adam Curry: I mean, this is the
general assembly it's not the
34:25
Security Council. So it's
irrelevant.
34:29
John C Dvorak: The Security
Council's irrelevant to yes
34:32
Adam Curry: of course it is. I
have an angle report which I'm
34:35
surprised you you missed that
one because I thought this was a
34:39
real this tugged at your
heartstrings this was perfect.
34:43
In
34:44
Unknown: Gaza now, conditions
are beyond miserable, heavy
34:47
rains and shattered
infrastructure today led to
34:50
floods 50 miles away in the
Palestinian city of Bethlehem.
34:57
The mood is sour in the town
where Christians believe Jesus
35:00
was born, there are no tourists
or pilgrims, no tree and manger
35:04
square Christmas celebrations
have been canceled canceled
35:08
solidarity with Gaza inside the
Church of the Nativity. We met
35:12
Reverend Dmitry Rahim when
35:14
you bring your gifts, think of
the people in Gaza who are
35:19
starving today, starving not
only for food but starving for
35:22
justice.
35:26
In the grotto under the altar,
where the faithful believed the
35:29
manger ones lay, we were the
only ones to witness the rituals
35:33
that have continued here for
centuries. where it began, no
35:39
one is in the mood to celebrate
Christmas. Oh
35:43
Adam Curry: wow, that guy needs
to work on his away in the
35:46
manger. He was way off key.
35:49
John C Dvorak: So that this one
Christmas. That's
35:51
Adam Curry: right, Warren
Christmas, Christmas is
35:53
canceled. And I think we'll see
that here. We will see people
35:57
canceling their Christmas out of
solidarity. I think that will be
36:00
a thing that's that would be
there's gonna
36:03
John C Dvorak: be solidary tea
with the Ukrainian people in
36:06
Miramar? Possibly Sudan is in
solidarity with them. We have
36:12
anything Does anyone care about
these other people
36:14
Adam Curry: because they're not
starving. As
36:16
Unknown: Israel continues to
attack Hamas food is
36:19
increasingly scarce in Gaza. A
desperate crowd today rushed to
36:23
take whatever food aid they
could and refer. The UN says
36:27
half of the population is
starving and diseases are
36:31
spreading in southern Gaza. 15
year old roja Bucher today tried
36:36
to count the number of times
she's been displaced. We are
36:42
tired, so tired. We are begging
for one bite, she says 90% of
36:48
Gazans have been driven from
their homes, according to the
36:51
UN. Many are now living in the
open desert. That wall is the
36:55
Egyptian border. The end of the
line. Nowhere is left that safe
37:00
for Gazans for the hostages.
37:03
Adam Curry: So Egypt won't let
him give a Hey angle,
37:05
John C Dvorak: give them some
food if you're there. Ain't
37:09
gonna give him some food.
37:10
Adam Curry: No, no, no. It's a
heart wrenching report. He's
37:14
really He's talking about the
strings. Now I want to come back
37:18
to
37:19
John C Dvorak: there or is he is
that was he in some some hotel
37:23
sweet?
37:25
Adam Curry: Green Screen, of
course, is what these guys do.
37:28
John C Dvorak: Far as I know,
they're not letting any American
37:30
journalist in the area. So how
was he there?
37:32
Adam Curry: He was you. It's I
don't know. He's hanging out
37:36
with what's his face was the
Brit who's there now? Yeah, the
37:40
intellectual guy. We had a clip
of him, what's his name? The guy
37:46
who's a smarty pants. He was
reporting there anyway. It's
37:50
horrible. The whole thing's a
mess. source it is. It's a mess,
37:54
then it's creating a mess
everywhere. Then at the
37:57
universities, ah, mess times
mess. Harvard, Harvard
38:02
Unknown: is arguably the world's
best known and most prestigious
38:05
university. This institution
which shapes the American elite,
38:09
has become a flashpoint in the
US reaction to the Israel Hamas
38:13
conflict deprives Palestinians
dignity of burying. This is a
38:22
member of the Palestine support
committee, the first student
38:25
groups to issue a statement
after October 7, it was
38:29
contentious notably because it
accused Israel of being entirely
38:32
responsible for the Hamas
attack. Without a word for the
38:35
Israeli victims.
38:36
It was just intended to
contextualize the situation
38:39
within 75 years of occupation
within decades of seeds within
38:44
apartheid within settler
colonialism within ethnic
38:46
cleansing. And I think it was
supposed to warn of the coming
38:49
violence that we would surely
see in weeks to follow.
38:51
So why not condemn Hamas?
38:54
Harvard refuses to call a
genocide a genocide?
39:00
We put that question to the
students who refuse to answer
39:03
like, you know,
39:04
I'm sorry, I can't answer that
question. There has absolutely
39:07
been a double standard in how
mainstream media approaches this
39:11
need to recognize the Zionist
regime for what it is. And that
39:15
is a settler colonial regime
that seeks to wipe the historic
39:19
land of Palestine clean of any
Palestinians in order to create
39:23
their own land that excludes and
eliminates other people. Okay,
39:27
Adam Curry: so this this kind of
triggered me because in
39:29
following on the clips that you
had on last show, were why
39:34
somebody really yelled at me
about that. You know, where what
39:38
well about the the kid who was
there, you know, well, once we,
39:41
John C Dvorak: once we get rid
of Israel.
39:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, somebody
asked, because like usually just
39:46
laughing at dead people. No, no.
39:50
John C Dvorak: Laughing a
39:50
Adam Curry: dead people. People
don't listen very well. It
39:53
doesn't matter. This is not a
typical universe. Many students
40:00
have been brainwashed, there's
an entire. And when I say it's
40:04
not about Israel, Hamas is about
colonialism. The West is bad,
40:08
white is bad men are bad,
straight white old men very,
40:13
very bad, very bad, especially
in the West. And this and this
40:17
is an ongoing program. And it's
it's very understandable when
40:22
you look at the history, history
listening and coming. When you
40:25
look at the history, you know,
what was the last thing they
40:28
were protesting for? I mean,
besides the ongoing LGBTQ plus
40:33
which usurped lives matter,
black lives matter. And there
40:37
has been a long standing, long
standing operation going on
40:44
between black Americans and the
Palestinian region. I'm saying
40:50
that purposely Palestine. This
has been going on since almost
40:55
before I was born. In
40:56
Unknown: 1964, Malcolm X
published an article in the
40:59
Egyptian Gazette called Zionist
logic, in which he drew
41:02
parallels between the oppression
of Palestinians and Africans.
41:06
Instead of seeing it as a
religious conflict, Malcolm saw
41:09
Israel as a colonial project
serving a wider imperialist
41:12
agenda. Seeing European
imperialists wisely placed
41:16
Israel where she could
geographically divided the Arab
41:19
world. In the same year, Malcolm
was one of the first African
41:22
leaders to publicly meet with
the Palestine Liberation
41:24
Organization as anti colonial
struggles gain traction through
41:27
the world. Freedom for
Palestinians became a touchstone
41:31
for the international fight
against imperialism. As black
41:34
freedom movements expanded their
worldview to situate their
41:37
struggle as part of a global
anti colonial movement.
41:40
Palestine also became an
important focal point of their
41:43
solidarity. On August 15 1967,
the Student Nonviolent
41:47
Coordinating Committee released
a position paper entitled The
41:50
Middle East crisis, expressing
support for Palestine and
41:53
criticizing us support for
Israel. Organizations such as
41:57
the Black Panthers argued that
freedom would never come for
42:00
black people in America unless
all oppressed people were free.
42:04
The Panthers frequently spoke of
black communities and their
42:06
relationship with police as
living under occupation as
42:10
internally colonized people.
They were vocal in their support
42:13
for Palestine, and met with the
PLO in Algiers in 1969. So
42:17
Adam Curry: that's black
panthers and Malcolm.
42:20
John C Dvorak: Second, whoever
got you that clip, I'm gonna
42:21
give you a clip of the day.
That's a beauty.
42:24
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you, I got
that myself from TRT.
42:29
John C Dvorak: Give yourself a
pat on the back. Well, so
42:33
Adam Curry: I've another one.
I've a second but follow up. But
42:35
go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Israel's
42:37
John C Dvorak: not in A is not
put in. It's not in the spot
42:41
that's dividing the Arab
nations. It's in between the
42:44
Egyptians and Arabs, there's no
other it's not like in the
42:49
middle between Saudi Arabia and
the UAE or anything like that.
42:54
That's nonsense. But yeah, I
understand. I remembered some of
42:58
this from my days at Cal
Berkeley, these the same thing,
43:02
Adam Curry: it's the same thing.
And black Americans from early
43:07
on, were infiltrated by Marxist,
the true Marxist came in and
43:12
right away when Hey, the Marxist
were in the south in America,
43:16
trying to get people to get on
board. And the only people who
43:20
showed up were black people.
Like, hey, these guys care about
43:23
us. They're listening to us. And
there's long standing friction
43:28
between blacks and Jews in
America. So this wedge has been
43:31
played for a long time. And it
always comes down to America
43:35
Bad, bad, bad colonialism. I'm
not saying that. It's there's
43:40
not no colonialism going on
here. But this is not a new
43:44
thing. In fact, let's go back a
little less far.
43:47
Unknown: Muhammad Ali also
declared his support for the
43:49
Palestinian struggle, marching
for Palestinian rights and
43:52
visiting a Palestinian refugee
camp in southern Lebanon. In
43:56
1979, Reverend Jesse Jackson met
with the PLO and pushed for the
44:00
US to deal directly with the
organization in pursuit of a
44:03
peace deal
44:04
just and lasting peace is
inextricably bound for a state
44:11
of the Palestinian people, and
the recognition of the PLO as
44:15
the government in exile with
which our nation must negotiate.
44:19
This was a significant shift in
support for Palestine moving
44:22
from radical groups to more
mainstream figures who were able
44:25
to lobby for shifts in US
policy. 10 years later, Jackson
44:29
would find himself in an
audience in Harlem as Nelson
44:31
Mandela addressed a packed town
home
44:34
as far as Yasser Arafat is
concerned. I explained to Mr.
44:39
City that we identify with a
piano it causes just like
44:48
ourselves. They are fighting for
the right of self determination.
44:59
Adam Curry: So Actually IBM now
I think about I want to make
45:03
sure there was there might have
been a producer who sent me this
45:06
I may be wrong it may or may not
have been my discovery alone. I
45:09
don't want to I don't want don't
want to take no Stolen Valor.
45:12
Stolen
45:13
John C Dvorak: Valor Oh my god.
So I should mention a couple of
45:16
things one when I went and
visited Israel some time ago but
45:20
before I did I was given a
briefing on some of the stuff
45:23
going on and I was told that it
was never going to be any such
45:26
two state solution once they're
there they're never going to
45:29
schism had to exist because of
basic corruption and he this guy
45:35
Israeli course so as the
information could be slanted but
45:38
he pointed me to a Time magazine
article that one of them though
45:41
he says by this writer who's has
gotten jobs jobs since
45:46
discussing the kind of
corruption that goes on in the
45:48
in the way it would be, become
Gaza, which would which included
45:53
Coca Cola concessions, yeah,
yes, that only went to a certain
45:57
group of people that were and it
was all everything was bought
46:00
and paid for by bribery. And it
was so much money being made off
46:05
of through the via the PLO, and
that's the reason that we always
46:09
forget the fact that when after
he died, it was discovered that
46:13
Yasser Arafat had billions of
dollars stored away in a in a
46:19
Swiss bank, which had you get
built not to a couple of bucks,
46:23
but a billions. Yeah. And it was
full
46:27
Adam Curry: of crap. Everyone's
full of crap.
46:28
John C Dvorak: Everyone's fully
crap. And
46:31
Adam Curry: people they don't
care about their people, just
46:35
like our so called leaders don't
actually care about us. The
46:39
faster people realize that the
better. You know, this, this
46:45
just no care in the world and
you don't have to choose a side.
46:49
You can be choosing sides all
day long as we keep pointing out
46:52
this sides everywhere. How about
looking at your own city or your
46:56
own neighborhood? How's it going
there have potholes? I do have
47:02
some black lives matter. Trans
Maoist, racist stuff. Two fun
47:07
clips.
47:08
John C Dvorak: That's always
always fun, always fun.
47:10
Adam Curry: And the first one is
James O'Keefe. The man he
47:15
doesn't need his donors. He's
doing just fine. He got a zoom
47:21
call from the CEO of IBM. Who is
47:27
John C Dvorak: he the Indian, I
think is Indian. I thought the
47:30
CEO was Gina Rometty.
47:31
Adam Curry: This is from 2021.
47:34
John C Dvorak: I thought the CEO
then was was her. Ah,
47:39
Adam Curry: who was this guy
then CEO, IBM. Let me see.
47:44
Ma'am. Now Arvid Krishna.
47:49
John C Dvorak: Arvind Krishna.
Yeah. Is he the CEO? Yeah.
47:54
Adam Curry: I guess I would
maybe choose chairman and CEO
47:57
since April 2020. took on the
role of chairman in 2021.
48:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
behind to what I know. No
48:06
kidding. What
48:07
Adam Curry: do we know?
48:09
John C Dvorak: It was during
COVID. You know, anything that
48:11
happened during COVID.
48:12
Adam Curry: Also, on this zoom
call, was the CEO of Red Hat,
48:18
which has since been acquired,
which was an acquisition by
48:23
John C Dvorak: the algo.
48:25
Adam Curry: Looks like a white
dude. Then there's this. She
48:28
doesn't talk much. There's some
like a PR lady who's just
48:32
smiling like a doofus on camera
the whole time. He has a whole
48:36
report. I'm gonna play one
minute of it, you'll get the
48:38
idea pretty quick.
48:39
Unknown: We take
underrepresented and gender you
48:42
got to move both forward by a
percentage that leads to a plus
48:45
on a bonus. By the way, if you
lose, you lose part of your
48:49
bonus. I'm not trying to finesse
this. So for blacks, we should
48:52
try to get to a 13 point
something percent on Hispanics.
48:55
You gotta get into the mid
teens. Alleppey say, Asians in
48:58
the US. I'm not an
underrepresented minority in a
49:01
tech company. James
49:02
O'Keefe here outside of IBM's
corporate headquarters in
49:05
Armonk, New York. And IBM
insider has provided us with an
49:09
internal video showing the CEO
of IBM Arban Krishna using
49:13
coercion to fire people and take
away their bonuses unless they
49:17
discriminate in the hiring
process. Let me go
49:20
deeper into Red Hat multiple
leaders over the last year plus
49:23
that were held accountable to
the point that they're no longer
49:26
here at Red Hat because they
weren't willing to live up to
49:28
the standards that we set in
this space. This conversation
49:31
takes place every single day.
And a lot of it's behind the
49:35
scenes,
49:36
the terminated executives that
didn't discriminate yet another
49:39
violation of Title Seven, one of
the biggest companies in the
49:42
world, one of the most valuable
and recognizable brands on
49:45
Earth.
49:47
Adam Curry: So they had quotas,
you know, oh, you need to hire
49:50
2% more black people. 2% more
trans people that quotas and if
49:55
you didn't, if you didn't do it,
then you'd either your bonus
49:58
will get docked or you Couldn't
get fired outright. How about
50:03
that? Wow. Yeah. Wow was right,
IBM. I mean, I wish I wish there
50:09
was a product that could ban but
I don't use any I mean, who uses
50:13
IBM products? I'm sure we all
use it indirectly.
50:17
John C Dvorak: Because there's,
there's they have things here in
50:19
there.
50:20
Adam Curry: When's the last time
you bought an IBM PC? ThinkPad?
50:23
Do they still exist that did
they are they still they
50:25
John C Dvorak: sold the whole
business on Lenovo. Lenovo.
50:27
Right, right. So they don't even
make those anymore. And I don't
50:31
know what they you know, they
think they still make some sort
50:34
of chips.
50:35
Adam Curry: But this goes on
everywhere in boardrooms and
50:38
executive suites across the
United States. I know candle
50:43
have many examples
50:44
John C Dvorak: of the
meritocracy that this country
50:46
was founded on No
50:47
Adam Curry: man, it's about your
gender and your skin color began
50:52
and that is a direct result of
Larry Fink's invention, which is
50:55
backpedaling on ESG, which are a
big part of your ESG your
51:00
environmental social governance
score is your diversity and
51:04
equity inside your corporation
along with your green washing.
51:09
Oh, it's horrible. And it makes
these companies suck. And there
51:13
you go. IBM. I think you suck.
Where's your AI? Where's your
51:17
Watson? No. But that's okay.
Because racism is
51:23
John C Dvorak: they end up
51:24
Adam Curry: failing in the
market. Oh, yeah. Eventually
51:26
eventually. Yeah. And okie for
not doing well help them.
51:31
John C Dvorak: Right. Keith is
helping them helping them. Yes,
51:36
helping them fail,
51:37
Adam Curry: but they will fail
in the market because if you
51:39
bring in mediocre people
eventually just get mediocre
51:42
product and and it's very hard
to swing that boat around once
51:45
you've once it's ingrained in
the organization. Boss Boston
51:50
though the mayor of Boston oh
man a little email boo boo
51:54
Boston Mayor
51:54
Unknown: Michelle Wu showing up
to her Beacon Hill holiday party
51:57
and all smiles after an email
error sparked controversy
52:01
surrounding the festive affair.
52:03
It was a one of those emails
that we've all sent at one point
52:07
or another no
52:08
and it was obtained by a member
of the mayor's staff to the
52:11
entire city council Tuesday. I
cordially invite you and a guest
52:15
to the electeds of color holiday
party. But 15 minutes later
52:19
another email went out
rescinding that invite to the
52:22
white councillors clarifying I
did send that to everyone by
52:26
accident. I apologize if my
email may have offended mistake
52:30
or not. City Councilor Frank
Baker says this is just one
52:33
example of the racial divisions
inside City Hall.
52:36
Well, yeah, I do find it
divisive but you know what do
52:39
you what are you going to do
about it? You don't want me at a
52:41
party I'm uncomfortable body. So
you know,
52:44
the event has been happening for
years and the mayor is defending
52:47
the party. I can
52:49
understand someone would be
confused or worried if certain
52:54
people weren't being invited. Or
were being left out of any type
52:59
of celebration, but they're I
assure you, everyone on the
53:03
Boston City Council has gotten
an invitation to multiple types
53:08
of events and holiday parties
53:10
that the mayor says that there
will be another party at the
53:13
same location on another date
where all city officials are
53:17
invited to attend
53:18
Adam Curry: scandalous there was
a Christmas party the for the
53:22
elected people of color which as
mo would say is another way of
53:26
saying elected color people so
that's all he can hear such
53:30
John C Dvorak: it yeah I'm I'm
so I can be honest about that's
53:33
what I always hear to bull
53:34
Adam Curry: crap term is racist.
It's just racist.
53:38
John C Dvorak: And then they do
a segregated party. Yes. Yes.
53:41
Adam Curry: Segregated party. It
is. I mean, why you should go
53:47
throw a party at IBM. You fit
right in with their with their
53:51
culture. Okay. Now, this is this
has got to be my favorite topic
53:59
for for today. You're on a roll.
Yeah, no, there's this. There's
54:05
John C Dvorak: a show at the
mall or something.
54:06
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, Moe and
I are due for a show that we're
54:09
due for a show you know,
something really beautiful
54:13
happen. So I was listening to my
favorite show the hate listen.
54:17
Oh, your pivot? Yes. pivot here
we go with Professor Prof. G and
54:22
your protege.
54:24
John C Dvorak: Stop and tell you
something. I was reluctant to
54:27
tell you but I'm going to tell
you all right. So I'm talking to
54:30
Mia Mia. She's doing the good
news stuff. And just like she's
54:34
white, she overdoing it issues.
She's
54:36
Adam Curry: picking the good
news currently,
54:38
John C Dvorak: because she's got
she'd give me 20 of them. And I
54:41
thought, Oh my God.
54:42
Adam Curry: Maybe it's like good
news.
54:46
John C Dvorak: So she says that,
you know, Adam is better on the
54:52
show than ever before. He's not
so testy. He's not so uptight
54:58
about everything you say. He's
not like Like, he's not like an
55:00
old lesbian that's agreeing with
her when she says this, and she
55:07
says she says he's funnier. He's
doesn't get offended by
55:12
everything like he used to. Wow.
And this she said, It's because
55:16
he stopped smoking dope.
55:22
Adam Curry: I think that's a
part of it. Possibly. Yeah. was
55:25
part of it. I mean,
55:27
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, I
mean, I said that until he does
55:30
smoke dope or tobacco products
anymore. Changes. A little bit.
55:34
My dnn is religious. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a little bit of accepting.
55:38
But Jesus,
55:39
Adam Curry: I have saved me.
55:42
John C Dvorak: She's not a fan
of you being saved. But no, he
55:45
says, even I said religion will.
Should if it works, keep him
55:50
from going back to smoking pot
all the time. I'm not gonna
55:53
smoke anymore. Because you were
and people don't realize this.
55:58
You were basically 24/7 on a
heater. You were a 24/7 smoker
56:06
waken big baby.
56:09
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah.
56:11
John C Dvorak: And ever. I never
thought it really affected your
56:13
personality, but she says is
noticeable. Oh,
56:16
Adam Curry: well, that's not
according to one of our
56:18
donations that we'll have later
on.
56:21
John C Dvorak: You're a hater.
56:23
Adam Curry: I don't know what I
am. Anyway. I'm not a hater. So
56:28
now that what's interesting is
this, uh, the Heritage
56:32
Foundation came out with a
document. And this is the
56:35
genesis of what's going on here.
If this document is called
56:39
Project 2025. And, well, maybe
we can talk about that in a
56:45
moment. But this is basically
the conservative slash
56:51
Republican manual for all the
things they want to do. And it's
56:55
very Heritage Foundation. It's,
it's 1000 pages is a big
56:59
document. And as you can
imagine, it's you know, stuff
57:02
like, hey, racism against white
people is racism. Hey, let's,
57:08
let's let's try and reduce this
abortion epidemic. We've got,
57:12
you know, it's all the Heritage
Foundation stuff you'd expect.
57:16
But this is not the Heritage
Fund. Oh, no, this is Trump.
57:21
John C Dvorak: This is all about
Trump. So Trump Yeah. Oh, yeah.
57:25
What's up? We'll get to this
came out of the heritage. Yeah,
57:27
but Trump is trumping the
heritage or are not even close.
57:31
I know I know.
57:32
Adam Curry: But, but before we
get to that part, I first want
57:35
to go to the hate Listen, which
I adore them. I just want you to
57:39
know that if they were value for
value, I'd send them value. I
57:43
disagree
57:44
John C Dvorak: with this with
what you don't do. You don't
57:47
endure them. You don't like I
missed the show door.
57:51
Adam Curry: I said a door you
said indoor and outdoor. I said
57:55
I adore them. You endure them
now. You heard it wrong. I said
58:00
I adore them. I do I adore them.
58:04
John C Dvorak: I hold back the
chain.
58:05
Adam Curry: I love Kara's paw. I
love it when she's when she goes
58:08
on shows as Elon Musk has
dropped the effort. This is a 52
58:13
year old man. What
58:14
John C Dvorak: did you know she
used to love you pointed this
58:16
out. She used to be a big huge
fan of Ilan Yeah, what happened
58:20
between those two? Well,
58:22
Adam Curry: you know she is a
she's a pushover. She takes
58:29
she's accessed journalist.
58:31
John C Dvorak: You know if Ilan
said something good about her. I
58:34
bet she she turned the corner on
this. Oh, in
58:36
Adam Curry: a heartbeat. She was
all Apple the stupid visor. It's
58:41
no good. This vision pro what is
like Google Glass. They invite
58:45
her for a demo. Wow. This is the
future. Please, please. Now
58:51
Elon. Elon shined her on and
said now be whatever, I'm the
58:55
meal. And, you know, I gave Elon
all the breaks. I created Elon
58:59
Musk. It doesn't matter. They
had they had Dan Pfeiffer on Dan
59:03
Pfeiffer where he's from pod
save America. He's from that
59:07
whole that whole group. And he's
actually I was in my money. He's
59:12
the smartest of the group and he
was an Obama advisor.
59:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these guys
are the pod save America as are
59:19
all the oh by the right bottom
left wingers of podcasting. Yes,
59:24
it's not Chapo. traphouse. Knows
close.
59:27
Adam Curry: Pfeiffer is a smart
guy. And he goes on the end. He
59:33
has a podcast, which is kind of
why I was listening because he
59:35
has a podcast called the polar
coaster. I know right, get off
59:43
the polar coaster because it's
all about polls. Anyway, he goes
59:48
on and he gives a
recommendation, what the
59:51
Democrats should not do what
they explained what they should
59:54
not be doing. With Trump right
now. We have focused
59:58
Unknown: and I think rightfully
on Donald Trump's thing on day
1:00:00
one. But what keeps getting left
out is what he said right after
1:00:04
that, which he's going to, he
basically said, I am going to
1:00:06
abuse power to secure the border
and quote drill, drill drill.
1:00:12
Right? So what he is trying to
do is to say, I am going to be
1:00:15
an authoritarian but I'm going
to be authoritarian for you.
1:00:17
Here's all I'm going to help
your wife right. These we know
1:00:20
that these things people care a
lot about cost of energy. And
1:00:23
border is at the top of it's
right below inflation on a lot
1:00:26
of the polls in terms of
concerns for voters. What
1:00:30
Democrats should do is not it we
is we should avoid some traps.
1:00:33
First is we shouldn't run around
talking about how strong Donald
1:00:35
Trump is because strength is
part of his appeal. We have to
1:00:38
talk about his knee the fact
that he is weak, right that he
1:00:42
that Donald Trump has ever stood
up to anyone in his life. He
1:00:44
bails on the CEOs he bows down
to dictators. He's running for
1:00:48
president not to help you but
because afraid to face the
1:00:50
consequences for his actions in
office last time and make it
1:00:53
about his weakness, right,
Donald Trump what that is a trap
1:00:57
to make us talk about how strong
and fearful he is. Next, and
1:01:00
this is really important as we
have to talk about how what
1:01:04
Donald Trump would do how him
being a dictator or seizing
1:01:07
power abusing her would affect
you. Right, I think one great
1:01:10
way to do this talk about
abortion. Right, the Heritage
1:01:13
Foundation and others have
talked about how even if Donald
1:01:16
Trump is unable to pass a
federal abortion ban, they can
1:01:19
weaponize the federal government
to put in fact a de facto
1:01:22
federal abortion ban.
1:01:23
Adam Curry: So he's read the
Heritage Foundation document and
1:01:26
he makes a really smart point
here. He says, Don't be talking
1:01:31
about him being the dictator.
Don't do that, because that only
1:01:35
solidifies He's a powerful,
powerful man. He specifically
1:01:39
and I think smartly says no, we
should not be doing this. Super
1:01:44
cut time.
1:01:45
Unknown: What would a second
Donald Trump term look like?
1:01:49
Well, he cannot be the next
president. It because if he is
1:01:54
you can't imagine the things
that he's going to do. Mexico,
1:01:58
Canada, we can go to Canada
because eventually Canada will
1:02:02
become an ex to America and
shoot visitors to the White
1:02:05
House. That means he can shut
the First Lady.
1:02:08
We're gonna see violence, the
likes of which we didn't even
1:02:11
see on January 6.
1:02:15
Make it illegal to run against
him to throw his opponents in
1:02:17
jail to shut down the media, he
will make
1:02:19
himself into the furor. And he
will make everybody raise their
1:02:23
hand
1:02:23
and salute him using martial law
against American germinate
1:02:27
the Constitution, we write the
constitution. Camps throw
1:02:33
everyone into Gitmo might be
sent to jail
1:02:36
or their rights might be
suppressed. Especially minority
1:02:39
groups in society
1:02:41
you might have any number of
things happen to you and your
1:02:43
family, every one of
1:02:45
us our freedom or liberty. None
of us is safe. It's going to
1:02:48
have people around him executing
against an enemies list,
1:02:51
assassinate
1:02:52
generals ordering troops
1:02:55
to attack American citizens,
very well
1:02:58
armed extremist base, we will
try to kill people
1:03:01
John C Dvorak: when he's going
to basically burn the house
1:03:03
Unknown: down, he will unravel
the institutions of our
1:03:06
democracy, draw similarities
between Mussolini and Hitler,
1:03:11
Hitler and Benito Mussolini,
1:03:13
Donald Trump even more dangerous
wants
1:03:15
to take away your vote Senate in
the house are immediately going
1:03:17
to be paralyzed. People will
begin in their minds to censor
1:03:20
themselves. They might say,
well, maybe I shouldn't say this
1:03:24
is the end of democracy.
1:03:25
I think that could be the end of
our democracy. But democracy is
1:03:29
dead if Trump is reelected.
1:03:31
Democracy will be at risk. The
absolute destruction of the
1:03:35
Justice Department as
1:03:36
we know it, the Justice
Department could be entirely
1:03:40
transformed.
1:03:40
I really concerned about that
1:03:42
person who was associated with
the attempted coup elevated in
1:03:45
the
1:03:45
administration. he's reelected
he will curb transgender rights
1:03:49
and the rule of law, arrest
political opponents to
1:03:53
persecute, not prosecute or
persecute his enemies
1:03:56
take a wrecking ball to the rule
of law, he's
1:03:58
going to make the law everyone
else will have to follow the
1:04:01
vote for Donald Trump may mean
the last election that you ever
1:04:05
get to vote in
1:04:05
go after the independent and
free parts of American civic
1:04:10
life
1:04:10
with tear down our institutions.
Birds, the government of
1:04:13
employees department by
department effort to weaponize
1:04:17
the powers of the government to
use the military to quash
1:04:20
protests, reading the government
of all democratic safeguards,
1:04:24
junking American democracy, as
we have always known it, that he
1:04:29
would try to stay in office
beyond a second term. He would
1:04:32
never leave office, there's no
question Trump is reelected. He
1:04:35
won't leave. Trump will never
leave office voluntarily. And
1:04:39
what that means
1:04:39
is that everybody who wants us
to remain a republic
1:04:43
has to put every other thing
aside and work together urgently
1:04:48
right now to stop that from
happening. So
1:04:51
Adam Curry: props to gray Bian
for putting that together. So do
1:04:55
they heed any advice? No. Well,
1:04:58
John C Dvorak: the Republicans
are the same way. I was
1:05:00
listening to of all people I
don't like him, which is Sean
1:05:03
Hannity. And he's giving advice
to the party about you know, how
1:05:09
to ride this abortion thing
correctly. And of course, no
1:05:12
one's gonna pay any attention to
him they're gonna lose a lot of
1:05:15
votes because they're gonna get
whiplash rip whip. whipsaw
1:05:19
whipsawed by the Democrats on
abortion issues if
1:05:22
Adam Curry: if the Democrats can
drag themselves away from the
1:05:26
Hitler, Mussolini dictator
thing, which I think is exactly
1:05:28
why Trump did that. Well,
1:05:31
John C Dvorak: not as you
mentioned that I because I think
1:05:33
that analysis by your podcasting
friend was right on the money. I
1:05:39
think so too. And we've noticed
this on this show. He doesn't
1:05:42
know how to pick people for his
cabinet. He just basically Are
1:05:46
you a backstabber You're hired.
brings in people like the
1:05:51
walrus,
1:05:54
Adam Curry: Bolton, Bolton,
1:05:56
John C Dvorak: what would you
hire that guy?
1:05:58
Adam Curry: He's a fart sniffer.
1:05:59
John C Dvorak: We never got a
whole slew of Council on Foreign
1:06:03
Relations, people that are set
up to go against him and the
1:06:07
drop of a hat. Yeah. And it's
just, you know, but on the other
1:06:13
hand, you got Biden.
1:06:15
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to
hear it? Yeah,
1:06:16
John C Dvorak: I agree with
everything that you played
1:06:18
there.
1:06:19
Adam Curry: So here's a video
from this other project. 2025
1:06:23
project 2020 five.org. I mean,
this is a video from it, just to
1:06:27
give you an idea of
1:06:28
Unknown: conservatives exist, to
conserve the ideals of the
1:06:32
American founding, these ideas
are actually the
1:06:35
Adam Curry: source of our
recovery. Notice the difference
1:06:41
in in music ta January
1:06:43
Unknown: 20. When the President
puts his hand on the Bible,
1:06:46
everything changes.
1:06:49
Our goal is to ensure that the
conservative administration that
1:06:52
takes office in January 25 is
ready on day one, the next
1:06:57
conservative president will only
be able to do so with your help.
1:07:06
And the President of the
conservative partnership
1:07:07
Institute, Vice President of
Hillsdale College, the head of
1:07:10
the Office of Justice Programs,
Assistant Secretary
1:07:13
for Public Affairs, senior
adviser to the president,
1:07:15
Assistant press secretary.
1:07:20
You're here to cut government
and you're here to do something
1:07:23
that's not in
1:07:23
their interest. The deep state
is real. You want to be someone
1:07:27
who knows answers. As
1:07:29
a public servant, you're working
on behalf of the American
1:07:31
people, the greatest country on
the planet.
1:07:38
Adam Curry: Johnson sure that
that power is executed
1:07:41
responsibly. So they have a
whole training project. You
1:07:44
know, they've got materials,
they've got their whole policy
1:07:47
directive. I mean, it's not a
Trump thing. They have the
1:07:51
mandate for leadership. You
know, our goal is to assemble an
1:07:54
army of aligned, vetted, trained
and prepared conservatives to go
1:07:57
to work on day one, to
deconstruct the administrative
1:08:00
state. I don't think there's
American that doesn't agree with
1:08:04
that. That there's an
administrative state has gone
1:08:07
too far. So fine, you know, but
it's not a Trump thing. It's
1:08:11
just not I don't think Trump is
all that tight with the Heritage
1:08:14
Foundation
1:08:15
John C Dvorak: of these that
tight with conservatives in
1:08:17
general. Yeah. Well, so
1:08:20
Adam Curry: you can stop this
next one, whenever you want
1:08:22
this, this was a Tiktok. guy.
And he read the document, which
1:08:28
was dug a big document Project
2025, which in his mind is
1:08:33
Trump. This is not the Heritage
Foundation. In his mind. This is
1:08:37
the Trump document. And you can
deconstruct just by listening to
1:08:42
what he's saying, but how He's
twisting the words of what's
1:08:45
actually in there, I think
you'll like it. You haven't
1:08:47
heard her
1:08:47
Unknown: project 2025 Stop what
you're doing. And watch this
1:08:51
project. 2025 is a plan for
Trump's second term that would
1:08:54
transform America into a far
right Christian nationalist
1:08:59
militarized state. You can read
the nearly 1000 Page plan for
1:09:03
yourself at Project
2020 five.org. So you can know I
1:09:07
am not exaggerating three key
facts. Number one, a mass firing
1:09:11
purge that Trump authorized
before the 2020 election but
1:09:15
never got the act on is at the
center of Project 2025. Now,
1:09:19
more than 2 million Americans
across the country are part of
1:09:23
the Federal civilian workforce
scientists and scientific
1:09:26
agencies, doctors at the FDA
accountants at the IRS, we want
1:09:30
experts doing jobs that require
expertise. So
1:09:35
Adam Curry: the document says,
Hey, we gotta get we got to pair
1:09:37
these agencies down there.
They're badgering the American
1:09:41
public that turns into, we want
our doctors we want our tax
1:09:45
experts, but more
1:09:47
Unknown: than 50,000 of them
would be fired under this plan
1:09:50
and replaced with mega
loyalists. Oh, will you lose the
1:09:53
power of these agencies to
fundamentally change the nature
1:09:57
of America? Yes out needing to
involve Congress without
1:10:01
Congress to Project 2025 is a
far right Christian nationalist
1:10:06
agenda. Oh, there must be Nazis
like page five they're already
1:10:10
proclaiming pornography should
be outlawed, but people who not
1:10:16
Adam Curry: okay, so I know a
lot of people are what hold on a
1:10:18
second man Don't touch my porn.
But that's not what they're
1:10:21
talking about this this is a
great twist of, of what's
1:10:26
actually in there because of
course it talking about the
1:10:29
material that is in books in
schools in grade schools to
1:10:34
John C Dvorak: grade schools
with all the basically
1:10:38
pornography that has been kind
of slipped into the grade
1:10:42
schools made in California, they
made it illegal to take those
1:10:45
books out of the schools because
1:10:47
Adam Curry: because porn is
great and push that
1:10:49
John C Dvorak: through, but he
doesn't really know what he's
1:10:50
doing.
1:10:51
Adam Curry: But But it's
interesting that he phrases this
1:10:53
as they're going to outlaw
pornography. I mean, everyone's
1:10:57
like, what, what?
1:10:58
John C Dvorak: What are you
gonna do? interesting twist.
1:11:01
Adam Curry: Listen to the whole
thing. 25
1:11:03
Unknown: is a far right
Christian nationalist agenda. By
1:11:06
page five, they're already
proclaiming pornography should
1:11:10
be outlawed. But people who
produce and distribute it should
1:11:14
be imprisoned educators and
public librarians who purvey it
1:11:18
should be classed as registered
sex offenders. This would be
1:11:22
alarming enough if they were
talking about actual
1:11:26
pornography, but their
definition spans anything that
1:11:29
acknowledges the existence of
LGBTQ people claim on page 451
1:11:35
that families comprised of a
married mother, father and their
1:11:39
children are the foundation of a
well ordered nation and healthy
1:11:43
society, thereby designating
queer people, single parents,
1:11:47
unmarried co parents, and people
who get abortions as inherently
1:11:50
inferior and a threat to the
states. Notice the people who
1:11:54
get abortions on page 584, they
call for the Department of Labor
1:11:58
to explicitly give companies
permission to discriminate
1:12:02
against LGBTQ Americans on page
four,
1:12:05
Adam Curry: this is your thing.
This is your thing. You know,
1:12:07
you always say you don't want
people with with the tattoos and
1:12:11
the piercings and the hair. You
don't want them in your company.
1:12:14
That is your horrible LGBTQ plus
hater.
1:12:18
John C Dvorak: I'm not an LGBTQ
hater. My take is, and I don't
1:12:24
think it's got anything to do
with any of these issues. Or you
1:12:27
don't want certain kinds of
mentalities in your company that
1:12:32
will just bring in others of the
same ilk. And then they'll turn
1:12:35
on you. Yes, Your company has to
be configured has to have one
1:12:39
corporate culture of people that
are all in agreement lockstep so
1:12:43
the company can survive can
survive and do well. So I say
1:12:48
make sure to do testing to make
sure that the woke aren't hired.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: So you don't need to
hear more of this. Do you have
1:12:54
this particular one? I think
you've heard enough. Are you are
1:12:57
you pining for more? Do you want
more? I can play a little
1:12:59
John C Dvorak: you know, you can
stop because I think you're
1:13:02
probably Yeah, I but yeah, yeah,
this is what you do. So you just
1:13:08
read interpret, you can do that
with anything. And you just did
1:13:12
it by turning on me.
1:13:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right.
I turned on. Yeah. Because, you
1:13:18
know, no longer smoking dope
turned on you. That's
1:13:21
John C Dvorak: exactly the
reason. If you were smoking
1:13:23
dope, or whatever.
1:13:25
Adam Curry: Cool, man. So now,
the veck Vivec. All of a sudden,
1:13:31
it dawned on me. He's working
for Trump. His job is the same
1:13:36
job. No, but I mean, I hadn't
dawned on me until I saw parts
1:13:42
of his of his town hall, which
was quite funny. A couple of,
1:13:47
John C Dvorak: he's hilarious.
In fact, he's, he's, he's
1:13:50
outdoing Trump in a lot of ways.
No, I
1:13:52
Adam Curry: think his whole
that's the whole Trump was like,
1:13:54
here's what you do. And he's may
even be writing some stick for
1:14:00
him. Stick a stick because Vivec
is doing stick and he's he's in
1:14:05
his good, and he's snappy. And
he is he is, I mean, he
1:14:10
obviously has fu money so he
doesn't care.
1:14:12
John C Dvorak: And I think you
know, he couldn't have a
1:14:14
comedian coach. It feels
1:14:17
Adam Curry: like it. He's he
even his hair. His hair wasn't
1:14:21
all crazy up in the air like
that all like Bozo before. I
1:14:24
mean, he's Have you noticed
this? I'm a hair guy. Yeah. His
1:14:28
hairs kind of his hairs a little
wacky,
1:14:30
John C Dvorak: little more
manic.
1:14:32
Adam Curry: A little more manic.
Exactly. And just as Chris
1:14:35
Christie's entire raison d'etre,
which is friends for reason for
1:14:40
being is to protect Nimrod.
1:14:45
John C Dvorak: What's your name?
Nimrod,
1:14:48
Adam Curry: Nimrod, Haley,
Nikki,
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: Nikki, Haley,
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick,
1:14:52
Nikki.
1:14:53
Adam Curry: The his whole job is
to protect her is to encircle
1:14:56
her. And to you know, to the
ward I'm the beside during That
1:15:00
debate for what we could watch
of it. So Overbeck is of avec is
1:15:04
doing the same thing for Trump,
but he's go, he's going out
1:15:07
there, and he's delivering the
Trump message. If you had
1:15:10
Unknown: told me it's close to
three years ago that January
1:15:13
6 2021 happened if you'd told me
three years ago, back when I was
1:15:16
a biotech CEO, not steeped in
this world. I was just consuming
1:15:20
passive media, but was focused
on my world of developing
1:15:22
medicines. If you had told me
that January 6 was in any way an
1:15:25
inside job the subject of
government entrapment. I would
1:15:29
have told you that was crazy
talk. Fringe, this is
1:15:31
Adam Curry: good. By the way,
this this is a good way to put
1:15:33
it. Hey, you know, I mean, I was
making medicines that my mom
1:15:39
somehow was involved with, okay,
it doesn't matter. I was making
1:15:41
medicines. I was. I was a
biotech guy.
1:15:46
John C Dvorak: I have a red book
prediction. Go because if this
1:15:50
guy is, is doing a cover for
Trump, what is he going to end
1:15:55
up as he's gonna get a
government job? Yes.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: He's getting a gig.
Sure. I
1:15:59
John C Dvorak: have had the
prediction, okay. ambassadorship
1:16:03
good. What his own choosing?
Yeah,
1:16:05
Adam Curry: but what would he
choose? Well, he
1:16:08
John C Dvorak: could choose
India. He could really have fun
1:16:11
down there. No, he
1:16:12
Adam Curry: bought the ones you
want. You want London you want
1:16:16
Paris? Paris? Yeah. You
1:16:17
John C Dvorak: don't want India
John Doerr over here at Kleiner
1:16:20
Perkins was always supportive.
He wanted London he always
1:16:23
various that he went to Paris.
Oh, either way. And he couldn't
1:16:28
get on the wrong horse. It was
too funny. Yeah. Did
1:16:31
Adam Curry: you? Did you grow?
You're right. His he's like has
1:16:34
Kramer from Seinfeld hair.
That's what he's got. It's
1:16:37
Kramer hair. There's something
about it. It's anyway. So he's
1:16:41
styled. He's doing as I was
reading People magazine, I will.
1:16:45
I'm reading USA Today. I watch
Entertainment Tonight. I thought
1:16:49
this would have been crazy. But
no, I would
1:16:52
Unknown: have told you that was
crazy talk. Fringe conspiracy
1:16:55
theory nonsense. I can tell you
now having gone somewhat deep in
1:16:59
this. It's not. I mean, the
reality is this.
1:17:04
Adam Curry: Now, listen to the
back and forth with him. The
1:17:08
news model from CNN, we
1:17:10
Unknown: do have a government.
First of all, we have to
1:17:11
acknowledge that has lied to us
systematically over the last
1:17:14
several years about the origin
of COVID-19. About the Hunter
1:17:17
Biden laptop that we were told
was false. Yes, my 51 CIA
1:17:21
experts and otherwise, before we
now know that it was true, you
1:17:24
could go straight down the list
of Trump Russia, disinformation,
1:17:27
collusion, hoax, all of it. Now
we've come to January 6. The
1:17:31
reality is we know that there
were federal law enforcement
1:17:34
agents in that field. We don't
know how many. I think it's
1:17:36
shameful. Let me finish this
answer. But
1:17:38
let me just I'm gonna go ahead
and interrupt you here. Because
1:17:41
Because that the stablishment
has improved.
1:17:44
Adam Curry: Federal Did you
catch when he says, I know I
1:17:47
missed it. He says, Yeah, I
understand. You have to
1:17:48
interrupt me because the
establishment does not approve
1:17:50
this message. I get he's, he's,
he's doing stick.
1:17:54
Unknown: I'm gonna go ahead and
interrupt you here. Because
1:17:56
Because that establishment has
approved this message. I know
1:17:58
there were federal you're saying
that there were a federal
1:18:01
system. This is important.
1:18:04
Adam Curry: I think they're
clapping for him and not for her
1:18:07
probably.
1:18:09
Unknown: On January. There is no
evidence that there were federal
1:18:12
agents in the crowd on January.
So
1:18:14
why before Congress when pressed
on what the number was they
1:18:17
didn't say they were not they
just couldn't
1:18:18
see them. You're saying that
there's no that you have not
1:18:21
seen any evidence? We've seen
more and so you've
1:18:24
seen multiple informants
suggesting that there were we
1:18:26
know people we know people were
FBI informants. So we're asking
1:18:28
is there any major
1:18:31
comeback question but let me
clarify it was very
1:18:32
uncomfortable for I
1:18:34
Adam Curry: know it's
uncomfortable for you. He's like
1:18:36
I feel bad for you. I know I
understand. You have to do this.
1:18:39
I know the control rooms yelling
in you. I'm so sorry
1:18:42
Unknown: to give you hard facts.
And if I may I be I know this
1:18:44
can be a little uncomfortable.
We're gonna we're gonna go just
1:18:46
so you can you can even put
1:18:50
Adam Curry: I'm waiting for the
evidence. She was like, This is
1:18:55
gonna be great. This is my
launch into a primetime show on
1:18:58
CNN where girl What is this guy
doing uncomfortable,
1:19:01
Unknown: but we're gonna we're
gonna go through it and you can
1:19:03
you can, you can push the
evidence and you can push back
1:19:05
on that and let's do this
fairly. Why did they suppress
1:19:09
footage of now what's been
released 200 hours of footage of
1:19:12
shooting rubber bullets into
that crowd shooting tear gas
1:19:16
into that crowd. You didn't see
that before you saw what the
1:19:18
response was to that. Now you'll
see footage coming out of
1:19:21
actually rolling out the red
carpet for Capitol Police
1:19:24
allowing
1:19:25
Ramaswamy in again right through
the front back to maturity that
1:19:30
Adam Curry: she's trying to live
No, no that the vast majority of
1:19:33
that footage. Or at
1:19:37
Unknown: least the footage shows
my DPS officers being over
1:19:41
talking about one more really
important writers that I'm going
1:19:43
to write
1:19:47
very, I'm not sure if I can
finish it. I'm not sure if
1:19:51
the samples to the country to
the country sample
1:19:56
John C Dvorak: and stop it. So
what you've got here Er, which
1:20:00
is the interesting part. This is
supposed to be a debate between
1:20:03
the candidates.
1:20:04
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is
not a debate. This is the town
1:20:06
hall.
1:20:07
John C Dvorak: This is the town
hall.
1:20:09
Adam Curry: Poor lady Abby.
1:20:11
John C Dvorak: She's is she
supposed to be arguing with the
1:20:14
guy?
1:20:14
Adam Curry: Yes. Because cherry
pick and tell them the vast
1:20:20
majority. Tell them tell them
tell them you tell them. That's
1:20:26
what's going on. That's
1:20:27
John C Dvorak: what they all
want. But that's what's going
1:20:29
on. But it's that's the format?
No, of
1:20:31
Adam Curry: course not. He's
supposed to ask a question with
1:20:32
the guy answer. But the job now
of the interviewer is to fact
1:20:37
check in real time. I know this
because that's what Prof. G and
1:20:40
Kara are always talking about.
They want fact checking in real
1:20:44
time. But her facts don't add
up.
1:20:47
Unknown: What here's what? I'm
not cherry picking. I finish it.
1:20:52
I'm not sure if the samples
1:20:53
to the country to the contract.
For example. Government is what
1:20:58
government
1:20:59
was afforded. When there was 200
hours of cherry picking was the
1:21:03
government not made
1:21:04
Adam Curry: good. That's it.
That's that's someone who knows
1:21:06
what he's doing. He's been
trained. He
1:21:08
John C Dvorak: is quick on the
draw. There's no doubt about it.
1:21:11
We've noticed that from the get
go. Yeah. So he's fast on his
1:21:14
feet. Yeah. He's also been
coached, obviously. I think
1:21:18
obviously. And he's been and his
timing is good. Yes.
1:21:22
Adam Curry: And he's just any
any, like a board physical with
1:21:25
a big plate and you know, big
plank in front of his head is
1:21:29
like, just ran right through
just talking right over her.
1:21:34
This.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: This explains
from the beginning when we both
1:21:39
were suspicious of the guy. Why
is he here? Yeah. What is he
1:21:43
doing it? And you had heard the
talk, right wing talk show guy
1:21:46
say the same thing. What is this
guy? Does he thinks he's good.
1:21:49
They all say the same thing.
He's really good. But why is he
1:21:53
does he expect to win anything?
What's going on? I think you
1:21:57
nailed it. Ambassador guy is
there as a foil. And he's great.
1:22:02
And he is really good.
1:22:04
Adam Curry: And he and he sticks
it all the way in and rotates,
1:22:08
and right up through the throat
with this one.
1:22:11
Unknown: And let me let me just
finish one thing, because this
1:22:12
is super important as well. When
you think there's a civil
1:22:15
libertarian issue of our time
when Richard was kidnapping. I
1:22:17
want to keep it going to be
really clear on this because
1:22:19
it's the same issue the same FBI
same even part of the FBI. Three
1:22:23
people who are an alleged plot
to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, were
1:22:28
acquitted at the end of trial,
because it was entrapment. That
1:22:32
is government agents put them up
to do something they otherwise
1:22:35
wouldn't have done. They given
credit cards with spending
1:22:38
limits of up to $5,000 Encourage
them to buy munitions. Notice
1:22:41
Adam Curry: the control room
hasn't. They're like they're
1:22:43
like, look this up, look this
up. We got it. What is he doing?
1:22:46
It's a curveball. You're not
talking about Trump and looking
1:22:48
at that we need something quick
1:22:49
Unknown: plan something they
weren't otherwise willing to
1:22:51
plan. So much. So and I want
people at home to know this,
1:22:54
especially CNN viewers to know
this is that one of the jurors
1:22:58
went to those defendants and
apologized afterwards, gave him
1:23:02
a hug. Apologize, seeing what
the government had put a poor
1:23:05
guy up to who had to go to some
Mexican restaurant across the
1:23:08
street to get hot water. These
people were exploited with
1:23:11
credit cards up to $5,000 FBI
agents, putting them up to a
1:23:15
kidnapping plot that we were
told was true but wasn't
1:23:17
traveling for dancing with the
Capitol police people letting
1:23:20
Ramaswamy many of those people
look at government put you I did
1:23:24
something and then charge
Ramaswamy
1:23:27
Adam Curry: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to spank you.
1:23:31
Unknown: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to interrupt
1:23:33
you. I really don't. But I don't
want you to mislead the audience
1:23:37
here.
1:23:39
They've been misled by
mainstream media.
1:23:42
Guys good. Guys. Good.
1:23:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, we do
we start to watch him with this
1:23:47
in mind. I think we'll
appreciate him more. Yeah.
1:23:51
Adam Curry: i And it dawned on
me too. I'm like, Oh, okay. That
1:23:55
makes that makes sense. That's
what he's there for. Totally.
1:23:58
John C Dvorak: Totally. And
that's why Trump doesn't go to
1:24:00
the database. Why? What's the
point? What's the point?
1:24:03
Adam Curry: And it's, but it's,
it's so interesting. From a
1:24:07
media perspective, which is what
we do here we deconstruct media,
1:24:11
how the media is, I mean, he
doesn't even have Twitter.
1:24:15
Before he would do it on
Twitter. And then oh, Trump
1:24:18
tweeted somebody and they talk
about him incessantly all day
1:24:23
long and then not and he does
want the on Hannity on his home
1:24:26
turf network. They can't ah, and
the ol boy is going to be a
1:24:32
dictator over starting on day
one they're gonna do like genius
1:24:37
genius move and then he I don't
think anybody watches much of
1:24:44
the the evening talk shows. I
mean, we know the only talk show
1:24:48
that people watch these days is
the one I don't like you like
1:24:51
it, which is God felt.
1:24:53
John C Dvorak: I just, I just
don't like me a long time.
1:24:55
Adam Curry: I don't like I don't
like Tim. I don't like Brutus.
1:24:59
John C Dvorak: Whatever lame. A
big rush. I
1:25:00
Adam Curry: don't know. I don't
like it. It's just it watching
1:25:05
John C Dvorak: just for the
occasional appearance of Emily
1:25:07
compagno.
1:25:10
Adam Curry: Yes, she's good.
They write for her. Yes, we
1:25:12
discussed this. So here's Jimmy
Kimmel Live, giving a full
1:25:17
minute and a half to Trump. I
mean, how dumb if they're if
1:25:21
they really are operatives,
they're doing a bad job. And if
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: I think your
podcasting buddy nailed it, yes.
1:25:30
Adam Curry: But this is, I mean,
this Trump's writing material
1:25:34
for them, and they like, Oh,
this is funny. Let's use this
1:25:37
material. I mean, how can you do
you really hate Trump Kimmel?
1:25:41
Seems like you want him to win
while Biden
1:25:44
Unknown: and Zelinsky were busy
trying to sell Congress on
1:25:47
funding for Ukraine. Our foreign
president is looking for some
1:25:51
funding to
1:25:52
Hi everyone. This is your
favorite president Donald J.
1:25:55
Trump with some very exciting
news. My last two Trump digital
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Trading Card Collection sold out
in just hours. And now I'm back
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with my latest series called the
mug shot edition. I wonder where
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that keeps the mug shot edition.
Brilliant.
1:26:10
Adam Curry: Come on. This is
brilliant. He had the stupid
1:26:13
playing cards. Now he's got the
mug shot edition. But wait,
1:26:17
there's more
1:26:17
Unknown: seven all new, stunning
cards. And here's the best part.
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For the first time we're
creating a real physical trump
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card. Purchase 47 digital cards
and we'll mail you a beautiful
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trading card. It is an authentic
piece of the suit I wore when I
1:26:33
took that now famous mug shot.
And it was a great suit, believe
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me a really good suit.
1:26:39
Adam Curry: This is genius. They
cut up the suit. And he's giving
1:26:44
people pieces of the suit when
they buy all 47 I mean, this is
1:26:49
classic direct marketing,
classic comedy. And these idiots
1:26:54
are just Paul, let's play this.
Let's make fun of him. This is
1:26:57
beautiful. It's all cut out.
1:27:00
Unknown: You're gonna get a
peace.
1:27:02
Deal. Wow, that's these cards.
So the cards cost $99 each. If
1:27:08
you buy them all 47 of them for
the low low price of $4,653 plus
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tax you will get a postage stamp
sized piece of the suit he wore
1:27:19
on the day he was arrested for
the fourth time. And he's
1:27:23
calling it the most historically
significant artifact in United
1:27:27
States is today's isn't that
said that. There are only 13
1:27:33
original copies of the
Constitution. And only who knows
1:27:36
how many fabric swatches from a
triple XL fat guy suit.
1:27:41
These cards pop art or modern
art. I wish I looked as good as
1:27:46
I do on those cards and I can
tell you they give me muscles
1:27:49
where? Believe me I don't have
them.
1:27:52
We believe you. What is going
on? I mean our former presidents
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genius just reinvented Garbage
Pail Kids.
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So don't miss out go to collect
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1:28:18
Adam Curry: I missed him in that
regard. I really missed it. Oh
1:28:22
man, that's genius. Stupid
morons.
1:28:26
John C Dvorak: It's too crazy to
be AI.
1:28:29
Adam Curry: Oh, no, it's not
it's it's not AI. It's the real
1:28:31
deal. That's him. That is him.
It's so good. Ah, makes
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: view seeing the
changes changing the topic. Have
1:28:42
you seen the channel one AI?
1:28:45
Adam Curry: Yeah, I saw like
horrible.
1:28:48
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it
was horrible at all. I have the
1:28:50
first minute of it. Click here
just to play. What's
1:28:53
Adam Curry: it what's an under
our channel one? Well, it
1:28:57
doesn't really work. Just audio
you have to see the wooden
1:29:01
movements of the news models.
Hello.
1:29:04
Unknown: Welcome to channel one.
Oh, a new way of consuming
1:29:07
reporting and thinking about the
news powered by artificial
1:29:11
intelligence. Today you'll
witness AI generated stories and
1:29:15
headlines, captivating visuals
and data driven insights. From
1:29:20
global news to finance to
entertainment. We'll show you
1:29:24
how technology enables us to
bring you a global perspective.
1:29:28
24/7 right from the heart of our
AI native newsroom, all
1:29:33
presented by our team of AI
generated reporters.
1:29:37
Maybe you hear the words
artificial intelligence, and
1:29:40
you're immediately skeptical or
concerned about technology gone
1:29:43
crazy. But everything you'll see
on Channel One relies on trust.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: Back it up a
little bit and now answer me
1:29:52
this. Why are their phones
ringing in the background?
1:29:55
Adam Curry: Well, because AI
determined that's what you need
1:29:57
to make it sound authentic. I'm
missing that. I'm missing the
1:30:00
teletype
1:30:03
John C Dvorak: yeah teletype
would probably be better you
1:30:06
know.
1:30:07
Adam Curry: Hello, welcome to AI
news brought to you by no agenda
1:30:12
show this is great boy look at
my arms. No not robotic at all.
1:30:17
John C Dvorak: You can you can
mark this like that. But in fact
1:30:19
is, is its people should go I
just tell it, you can listen to
1:30:23
Adam or you can listen to me.
Channel one.ai is the website
1:30:28
and watch this. I don't think
it's half bad. I think it's as
1:30:32
good as the actual network news.
Then they actually have a sample
1:30:36
news show and in fact on that
show, which they has real news
1:30:39
on it even though some of its
dated, there's a dated piece of
1:30:42
news which I was even unaware of
that you know, when they went to
1:30:45
the asteroid and grabbed some
asteroid rocks with that 10 year
1:30:51
mission or however long it took
to get there that the thing
1:30:54
never closed the grabber never
closed completely and it rocks
1:30:59
are being left all over the
space on the way back.
1:31:04
Adam Curry: I am very happy this
exists because when you get
1:31:07
tired of me I can continue the
show with my AI Dvorak. You
1:31:11
probably could no one will know
the difference
1:31:13
John C Dvorak: MQL they'll know
the difference because there's
1:31:15
no way that it can be funny. I
was just
1:31:17
Adam Curry: you can sit at home
and collect checks. What are you
1:31:19
waiting for? Seriously? Comic
Strip blogger Can you please
1:31:23
create a JCB AI you know what,
let's just start with one show a
1:31:27
week evening and do a whole show
you take one show a week off and
1:31:31
then it'd be fine it's gonna be
so good because AI is obviously
1:31:35
it's not that
1:31:35
John C Dvorak: bad I'm telling
you this Do people don't listen
1:31:38
to him listen to go to channel A
or channel one.ai which is the
1:31:43
website and I'm telling you this
is as good as CBS or any of
1:31:48
these local news is still got
charm noses in sloppier
1:31:52
Adam Curry: no no naked news
that still has chocolate
1:31:56
John C Dvorak: you know naked
news is probably still is the
1:31:58
best.
1:31:59
Adam Curry: This is pay well
cares this worth it. That fine.
1:32:06
Everybody can go listen to me by
1:32:08
John C Dvorak: the way. Channel
one could be channel one naked
1:32:11
they could do a naked news with
it because they can't seem to
1:32:15
fight they can't do people that
don't have a huge kids. So they
1:32:20
DO NAKED news but it'd be giant
breasts version. Yeah,
1:32:23
Adam Curry: I'd watch that.
Sure. Sure.
1:32:25
John C Dvorak: So I'm talking to
JC who's in involved in AI. He
1:32:29
says that. I don't know if I
mentioned this on the show
1:32:32
before but because there's so
many large breasted women in the
1:32:36
porn field where they're getting
a lot of their samples from the
1:32:41
AI guys can't really make women
with normal sized breasts. Yet,
1:32:47
Adam Curry: this whole I mean,
this is this is the business
1:32:49
model of AI. This is it.
Congratulations. We've got big
1:32:52
boobs, newsreaders, Herky jerky,
non throwing, not funny.
1:32:58
John C Dvorak: It's not Herky
jerky. I think you're wrong.
1:33:01
Adam Curry: I just watched it. I
watched the whole like, was it
1:33:04
11 minutes is boring, is boring.
The guy who comes in second is
1:33:10
he keeps doing the same hand
gestures, or
1:33:12
John C Dvorak: the hand
gestures. I'm not gonna argue
1:33:14
the hand gestures. It's bad,
because the guy's doing
1:33:18
meaningless hand gestures that
don't make any sense at all. But
1:33:21
this is just the beginning. It's
fine tuning this thing will
1:33:25
result in people that are
terrific looking and better than
1:33:30
the real deal. Hey, I agree AI
is great. It's good to rock
1:33:35
everybody.
1:33:35
Adam Curry: I need to mocking
mocking it. I'm mocking it. I am
1:33:42
mocking it. Because you're
because there will be a a
1:33:47
section of the public. That is
all in on this. And it won't be
1:33:52
any cheaper. It won't be any
cheaper for news organizations
1:33:55
to they've already.
1:33:58
John C Dvorak: Norris 12 to $14
million a year. Then
1:34:03
Adam Curry: I will start my own
news channel and I'll hire Nora,
1:34:06
then it'll be better people want
human beings. That's just the
1:34:10
fact except for the NPCs I mean,
there's a sec but those people
1:34:14
are not worth anything. The
people who are enamored by this
1:34:17
type of entertainment are not
worth anything to advertisers.
1:34:21
They're just worthless people.
1:34:23
John C Dvorak: You're harsh I'm
because you you I earlier in the
1:34:27
show. I said you were a hater.
1:34:29
Adam Curry: I'm an AI hater.
Yes, because I think this is
1:34:32
bullcrap. I think it's there's
no business model. There. This
1:34:36
is little sparkly bits that
dangling in front of us. Where's
1:34:40
the channel? All right. Where's
the channel? There's no actual
1:34:43
channel one that is going to do
this. Where is it that where is
1:34:47
it going? Okay, it's not
admitted.
1:34:52
John C Dvorak: Now already have
the cast and crew
1:34:54
Adam Curry: VEC will be in
London or Paris before we before
1:34:58
we have a full new channel of AI
news models that people actually
1:35:03
what they can eat
1:35:04
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying
that's not a pod that's only six
1:35:06
months or a year away. God it
may take a couple of years Oh
1:35:10
God, people just go you go
yourself and make your own
1:35:12
determination channel one.ai and
check it out all right,
1:35:16
Adam Curry: well the minute that
launches on AI in you and then
1:35:19
that's it and then you can take
off I doubt that won't be
1:35:21
working with you will be working
with your AI agent. Okay.
1:35:26
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna make
sure that I don't make you have
1:35:30
to be nice. I'll
1:35:31
Adam Curry: send you checks. No
problem. No. Going like, Man,
1:35:37
I'd be funnier than that stupid
computer. Man, he missed a great
1:35:41
opportunity.
1:35:44
John C Dvorak: Just soft
balling, just willing to miss
1:35:46
that. Speaking
1:35:47
Unknown: of AI, the European
Union passed the most
1:35:51
comprehensive and they listen
1:35:54
Adam Curry: to this guy. No, no
programmer would ever make this
1:35:58
guy in AI because they make him
to professional. I want to hear
1:36:02
like a wispy, lispy quasi gay
guy from time to time, because
1:36:08
it makes me happy to listen to a
human who is different.
1:36:12
Unknown: The European Union
passed the most comprehensive
1:36:16
and ambitious regulations on
artificial intelligence. They
1:36:20
are the first major government
to ever pass set legislations
1:36:24
and the different ways they're
looking at how to monitor
1:36:26
artificial intelligence all the
way from hiring practices, from
1:36:30
the court system to self driving
autonomous cars. There's so much
1:36:34
things that comprehensive and
what's interesting about that is
1:36:37
that they're so far ahead of the
United States government.
1:36:40
Adam Curry: This is by the way
is Good Morning America.
1:36:42
Unknown: You think about the
dangers but let's talk about the
1:36:44
good things when it comes to AI.
1:36:46
Yeah, people look at AI for so
many different reasons. Either
1:36:49
glass is half full, the glass is
half empty. There's no glass,
1:36:52
the glass is half full. I don't
even we love football as well to
1:36:56
as DeMarco but even look at this
weekend's of our football and
1:37:00
weigh the article intelligence
being used is called NFL next
1:37:03
gen stats and it's powered by
neither of us was the Amazon
1:37:06
Web. Pressure probability, what
does that even mean? That
1:37:13
basically means now coaches and
general managers, they can
1:37:16
assess how quickly a quarterback
may be sacked based upon the
1:37:21
data on the defensive lineman,
but they can also to assess
1:37:25
based on the offensive lineman,
how well do they do in
1:37:28
protecting the quarterback over
historical period of data that
1:37:31
is presented. So even the things
that we love Eva and DeMarco,
1:37:35
when it comes to football,
artists intelligence is helping
1:37:38
us call the game play by play is
make it more interactive, but
1:37:41
also to even has to be critiqued
right, and we have to make sure
1:37:45
guardrails are in place. But we
have the power as Americans get
1:37:48
into the driver's seat God
challenging our elected
1:37:51
officials to look at the
holistic point of view,
1:37:54
artificial intelligence. And I
think that is
1:37:57
one thing that's good. And
1:38:00
Adam Curry: my, you know, my
algorithms could replace this
1:38:04
guy's intelligence, but yeah,
perfect. So okay, that's
1:38:07
algorithm. Everything is AI
these days, everything we got an
1:38:10
email from, I'm not going to
read it. But we got an email
1:38:12
from a guy who works at a big
trading firm. He says, Hey, man,
1:38:16
you said there's no business
model. We got a business model
1:38:19
and we have a hub pay $150,000 a
year for AI in our company. I'm
1:38:23
like, Oh, this is interesting.
So are you making $150 billion a
1:38:27
year with your AI trading? Well,
no, we have an HR database.
1:38:31
Because you can look up HR stuff
we filled it all up and we can
1:38:34
query the database so the AI
give those answers where the
1:38:37
chat bot Polly's AI winter
coming, AI winter coming. Peak
1:38:44
AI now AI peak AI to AI winter
that you know what it's going to
1:38:49
be? They're going to pivot to
coin a phrase they're going to
1:38:52
pivot to quantum computing. No,
they're not Yeah, they are they
1:38:58
new work. They need a new thing
that sucks up cycles, so Nvidia
1:39:02
can be even more powerful. This
the only thing that's changed
1:39:07
from the from the late 80s is
more faster computers. It's the
1:39:12
same dumb stuff. Symbols tokens.
It's all the same stuff as lisp.
1:39:17
I'd really like
1:39:19
John C Dvorak: to get dead gag
in there. Nobody gets it. By the
1:39:23
way. A
1:39:23
Adam Curry: lot of Emacs guys
are going Yeah. Yeah.
1:39:27
John C Dvorak: Both of them that
listen to the show. Yeah,
1:39:29
Adam Curry: man. Yeah, Emacs,
Emacs. Man. Screw VI. Emacs, you
1:39:33
can do Lisp programming.
Alright, let's switch to some
1:39:37
more mainstream nonsense. We are
desperately trying. We are using
1:39:42
everything we can. We're using
every single advertising and
1:39:45
native ad dollar we have. We
need to make sure that we get
1:39:52
GLP one drugs into Medicare. I
don't care how we do it. We've
1:39:59
got to get added in there, Oprah
came out. And you know, Oprah is
1:40:02
co owner now of WW, which is the
new name for Weight Watchers.
1:40:08
And we had the CEO of
weightwatchers. On the last show
1:40:12
of the show before that, saying,
We're sorry, we were wrong. Oh,
1:40:16
no, it's not about food is not
about portion control. You have
1:40:21
a disease. You have a sickness,
how now but you still need to
1:40:25
use us because we bought a
company that will telemedicine
1:40:29
subscribe you all of these
wonderful drugs, and we'll help
1:40:32
you manage it. We'll help you
manage it. So the end of them so
1:40:36
Oprah did a big a big article,
big interview exclusive.
1:40:42
John C Dvorak: Have you seen a
lie? Have you she needs more
1:40:44
money?
1:40:44
Adam Curry: Have you seen her? I
mean, she looks phenomenal.
1:40:49
Oprah defends her use of weight
loss medication. Obesity is a
1:40:52
disease because she's a doctor.
And this all the doctors are in
1:40:57
on this. I don't really know one
that has said it outright like
1:41:00
that. But they're a little too.
Chicken, I think to say it. But
1:41:05
Oprah says Obesity is a disease.
It's not about willpower. It's
1:41:10
about the brain. Yes, yes. And
now we've got to get it into
1:41:16
kids. And we need it on
Medicare. Let's go to America's
1:41:19
most trusted doctor.
1:41:20
Unknown: That was America's
favorite doctor. And there's a
1:41:22
new study out here that
suggested popular weight loss
1:41:24
drugs may be safe during
pregnancy. But for now, a
1:41:27
warning labels caution against
the use during pregnancy and
1:41:30
consumption. So what so Another
1:41:31
week, another day another
headline with these GLP one
1:41:35
agonists like we go V ozempic
Manjaro. This latest study
1:41:39
published in JAMA Internal
Medicine, really looking
1:41:42
retrospectively at pregnant
women who were on diabetes
1:41:47
medication and how their
pregnancies when whether there
1:41:50
were any risks to the fetus and
the offspring. We're still in
1:41:54
the infancy pardon the pun in
terms of this, because right
1:41:57
now, these drugs like ozempic
are not recommended for women to
1:42:02
take during pregnancy. But we
always have to err on the side
1:42:05
of caution when you're talking
about what can and can not be
1:42:08
taken during pregnancy. But big
picture here, we know that
1:42:12
hyperglycemia, which is elevated
blood glucose levels during
1:42:16
pregnancy, really not good for
the fetus. In addition to the
1:42:19
pregnant woman, we know that
certain medications given to
1:42:23
people with
1:42:23
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Dr. Jen
is pregnant people eat us,
1:42:27
Unknown: in addition to the
pregnant woman, we know that
1:42:30
certain medications given to
people with diabetes are okay
1:42:34
during pregnancy, insulin, the
sulfonylureas. We have good data
1:42:38
and track record on that. But
again, when you talk about risk
1:42:42
benefit, which you guys have
heard, many, many times, we know
1:42:45
that there are real risks to a
woman who's overweight or obese,
1:42:50
diabetic during pregnancy, to
her risk to the fetus. So I
1:42:53
think we're gonna see a lot more
research with this class of
1:42:56
medication that's just
stimulated and triggered by the
1:43:00
popularity and use of them. So
this data that you're looking at
1:43:04
now, this is just because people
were taking it and then they
1:43:06
discovered the good side. I'm
just so fascinated by it. People
1:43:12
are using it. That's actually
how we back into a lot of data
1:43:15
when people are on the
medication. And then you know,
1:43:17
we follow them for another
reason. Really interesting. Very
1:43:20
Adam Curry: interesting. Okay.
But you know, we really need to
1:43:22
get it into the children. I
mean, we're trying to get into
1:43:24
the fetus. It was so successful
with COVID. The COVID vaccines
1:43:28
were great for feet. Hi, let's
go to Dr. Celine
1:43:31
Unknown: doctors and parents to
in the US are now being urged to
1:43:34
take an aggressive new approach
against childhood obesity. It's
1:43:38
a problem that affects nearly
one in five children and teens
1:43:41
in this country. And the US
Preventive Task Force clash is
1:43:44
now saying that doctors need to
intervene, starting with kids as
1:43:48
young as the age of six. Dr.
Celine gounder, is here to tell
1:43:52
us what parents need to know.
Dr. gounder. Thank you very much
1:43:54
for being here. I understand
intensive counseling is the idea
1:43:58
here. What is it? How soon
should it start?
1:44:00
Adam Curry: Now this is weird,
because they start with this
1:44:03
whole counseling counts. I was
trying to figure this out. But
1:44:07
what are you talking about? It's
a disease. Oprah said so what
1:44:12
know what, what is this
counseling bit about?
1:44:14
Unknown: So we're talking about
a minimum of 26 hours per year.
1:44:18
So if you break that down, that
comes down to say half an hour
1:44:20
per week or an hour per week of
meeting with specialists on a
1:44:24
consistent basis. So that could
be everyone from a dietician to
1:44:27
a physical therapist or trainer
to a mental health specialists
1:44:31
to really address what are the
issues that are driving the
1:44:34
obesity?
1:44:35
Adam Curry: Wait a minute,
obesity is an illness I do not
1:44:37
understand. And it started to
dawn as this went a little
1:44:40
further as they brought out the
racial profiling.
1:44:43
Unknown: I don't want to be
negative. I'm sure any number of
1:44:46
hours would help. But if you're
living all of your hours in a
1:44:49
world where you became obese,
what are 26 hours going to do to
1:44:52
change the equation?
1:44:53
Well, this is a really important
point because a lot of what is
1:44:55
driving this is one the culture
of the community, the culture of
1:44:58
the family, how they Eat. So
it's not just about addressing
1:45:01
Adam Curry: when they say
culture, that's code for black
1:45:04
the child,
1:45:05
Unknown: you also need to have
an environment where you have
1:45:07
access to healthy food and many
communities that might come to
1:45:10
the store where they have to
shop, particularly in parts of
1:45:12
the South. And then are there
safe places where kids can
1:45:16
actually play an exercise in
many communities that may not be
1:45:19
the case, communities
1:45:21
Adam Curry: culture, they're
going after poor people, and
1:45:23
particularly poor black people,
because they want it on Medicare
1:45:26
Unknown: together. The American
Academy of Pediatrics also
1:45:29
released guidelines saying that
12 years old or older as a
1:45:32
suggested age, for weight loss,
drugs and even surgery. I mean,
1:45:37
on the surface, that sounds kind
of shocking, but But what is the
1:45:40
rationale is it because of the
long term health effects that,
1:45:43
you know, curbing obesity could
create? Well, this is an
1:45:45
important
1:45:46
important point, the US
Preventive Services Task Force,
1:45:48
they are not recommending
surgery and weight loss
1:45:51
medications, they're just
recommended that recommending
1:45:54
the behavioral interventions.
And I think the discrepancy in
1:45:58
some of the debate in the
medical community is that we are
1:46:00
seeing people getting more and
more obese adults and children,
1:46:04
we're seeing obesity start at a
younger and younger age, and
1:46:06
there's this desperation to do
something. Now whether it can
1:46:10
help and giving weight loss
drugs to kids, you know, that
1:46:13
really remains to be seen. And
they're only approved for people
1:46:17
12 And up right now. Oh,
1:46:18
Adam Curry: because Oh, drove it
up.
1:46:20
Unknown: This is a good start,
if people are curious about that
1:46:23
is insurance covering weight
loss drugs for children
1:46:28
start covering starting at the
age of 12. But many of the
1:46:31
private insurance companies are
being very restrictive about
1:46:34
coverage. So it's not enough to
be obese very often to get
1:46:38
expensive, right? They're very
expensive drugs. And then if
1:46:41
you're on Medicaid, and most
people don't realize this, the
1:46:44
majority of kids in this country
are on Medicaid, nevermind
1:46:47
lawyer communities and state
Medicaid programs really cannot
1:46:50
afford to be covering these for
all kids.
1:46:52
Adam Curry: I can almost read
the material she was given. It
1:46:55
was just like the movies. Were
here comes the representative.
1:46:59
Okay, you know, but we're really
this is very important because
1:47:02
you know, kids need access to
this. Do you know how many
1:47:05
children most children in
America on Medicaid because
1:47:07
they're poor? They're poor? And
you know, black kids they know
1:47:11
they have they're more prone to
diabetes, because you know, they
1:47:14
live in the only God is Dollar
General now down at McDonald's,
1:47:17
I mean, come on
1:47:18
Unknown: low income families and
communities are hardest hit by
1:47:20
this obesity epidemic. How do
these interventions work in
1:47:23
those words? Well,
1:47:25
it's really hard you can say to
somebody portion control, and
1:47:28
here's how to read food labels.
And this is what you should
1:47:31
stick to fresh foods, not
packaged foods. But if you can't
1:47:35
even buy that, or if it's not
affordable access to time,
1:47:39
right? You don't. These are not
realistic education.
1:47:42
Because all of these habits are
passed down generational
1:47:44
generational
1:47:46
Adam Curry: culture,
1:47:46
Unknown: the family and culture
community and that's hard to
1:47:48
change. Dr. Brower, thank
1:47:50
you so much. It's really
fascinating. You
1:47:52
Adam Curry: can fasten that you
can just wait for it that's
1:47:54
coming is coming is coming. This
is the entire push. By the way.
1:47:58
You guys are on DH and plug you
were talking about the new
1:48:01
McDonald's concept. MC cosmic I
think is what it's called. I
1:48:06
think that MC cosmic is genius.
I think they've launched it at
1:48:11
exactly the right time. Because
it is like a crack house for
1:48:16
crack addicts and as drive thru,
because you it's It's Sugar
1:48:21
Bombs, it's got. It's got
colors, it's got crazy names.
1:48:26
It's highly TIG talkable. And we
don't have to worry about it
1:48:30
because just go get a shot. He
just go get a shot. Just go get
1:48:33
a shot. Now. I think
1:48:35
John C Dvorak: we indicated this
to our Well, I don't think we
1:48:38
really thought it was genius by
any means. But
1:48:41
Adam Curry: I think McDonald's
for the win. If I was an
1:48:44
investing man, I'd invest in
McDonald's, not advice. Now we
1:48:48
do have a little problem. We
have a little bit of a problem
1:48:52
because this is just GLP one
stuff. As you know, this is a
1:48:57
generic PE you don't necessarily
need the ozempic will go P
1:49:02
brands. You can get it at your
pharmacy you can have a compound
1:49:05
and this is this is a problem.
So Sanjay Sanjay Yeah, we want
1:49:12
you to do a report. We're gonna
have it we're gonna give you the
1:49:15
exclusive. But we're gonna have
we're gonna Dr. Jen's gonna roll
1:49:18
it out too. So you might as well
roll it out
1:49:20
Unknown: first. Sanjay was in
control centers across the
1:49:23
country, so they're seeing a
15 100% increase in people
1:49:26
accidentally overdosing
uninjected Weight Loss drugs.
1:49:29
15 100% CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay
1:49:33
Gupta joins us wait wait, are
there
1:49:36
John C Dvorak: real numbers here
because 15 100% means you can go
1:49:39
from one to two is like 1,000%
or 100%. Well, we went I went to
1:49:44
15 I mean, you know it's never
been reported before that just a
1:49:48
percentage numbers useless. We
need numbers do they get they
1:49:51
give them nevermind. I'm sure
they give them yes,
1:49:53
Adam Curry: they do. Actually 2%
of the American public is taking
1:49:56
these drugs 2% of them American
public is taking these drugs,
1:50:01
people and they're laid off
injecting. Listen to the report.
1:50:05
Sanjay is rolling it out. He's
got the exclusive poisoned
1:50:08
people
1:50:08
Unknown: accidentally overdosing
on injected weight loss drugs.
1:50:11
15 100%. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta
1:50:15
joins us now, Sanjay, are these
all connected? Why is this
1:50:19
happening with this, this is
kind of amazing. If you look at
1:50:21
just the number of prescriptions
that have gone out there, it's
1:50:25
skyrocketed. Most of these drugs
have only been around a few
1:50:27
years now. But just take a look
at sort of what's happened over
1:50:30
the past few years, close to 2%
of the population of this
1:50:33
country has been prescribed this
medication at some point. That's
1:50:37
that's, that's shocking. I mean,
these are huge. And obviously,
1:50:40
even around the world, this is
prescribed a lot. As you
1:50:43
prescribe more and more, you're
not surprised to get more and
1:50:45
more sort of accidental
poisonings, overdoses, things
1:50:49
like that. But I want to show
you something else that I think
1:50:51
is important here, you started
to see the numbers go up in
1:50:54
March of 2022. All the shortages
started happening. And what
1:50:57
happened as a result, pharmacies
came in and they started making
1:51:00
their own, they started making
their own compounded sort of
1:51:03
versions of this that were not
tested for safety and efficacy.
1:51:06
And you started to see the
poisoning rates go up at that
1:51:08
point as well. So that may be
part of this.
1:51:13
Adam Curry: Don't take that
stuff. You might die. Don't take
1:51:17
the stuff from your pharmacy is
poison. It's unbelievable.
1:51:25
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
been a war against compounding
1:51:27
pharmacies for as long as we've
been doing the show. Yes. But
1:51:31
Adam Curry: this is clearly and
squarely targeting, you know,
1:51:37
any alternative to
1:51:41
John C Dvorak: $1,000 Compared
to 20? Yes.
1:51:44
Adam Curry: Something like that.
Yeah. People turn off what
1:51:50
John C Dvorak: is by the way, do
they describe in his crappy
1:51:52
report, the symptoms of
overdosing on these things? Yes.
1:51:56
Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't
cut that. But yeah,
1:51:58
John C Dvorak: I would just say
what it was, oh,
1:52:01
Adam Curry: literally puking
diarrhea, painting your gut
1:52:05
this. To me, that's all the
features of this stuff. Is the
1:52:09
poisoning is the same as the
actual results of taking it. In
1:52:16
general. Yeah, it was it was
stupid. And then it's like,
1:52:21
well, you know, the half life of
this stuff is two weeks. So you
1:52:24
know, if you if you OD on it,
you can't just stop not like
1:52:27
getting your stop up. Be cute.
Puking for weeks. Yeah, yeah.
1:52:35
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna change
topics.
1:52:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.
1:52:38
John C Dvorak: Let's start
there. So I'm watching the
1:52:40
interview with the industry.
This is one of those like mini
1:52:45
deconstructions with Tucker
Carlson and Alex Jones.
1:52:50
Adam Curry: Oh, I actually
texted with him about this. So
1:52:55
John C Dvorak: you texted who?
Alex? What did he say?
1:52:58
Adam Curry: No, I texted him. I
said, he does a great job on
1:53:01
Tucker. And he said, I can tell
you what he said. He said, What
1:53:07
is it? He said something like I
can I just got to look at my
1:53:16
text. Alex. Yes, here it is. He
said, The tide is turning across
1:53:24
the spectrum.
1:53:28
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting. So it did get him
1:53:30
back on Twitter. I'm pretty sure
that triggered it because he
1:53:33
made a big fuss about that. But
I just caught a couple of things
1:53:37
that I thought were interesting.
And the first one is in clip one
1:53:42
is very short. And I want to
ask, I'll ask you about it
1:53:46
because I was confused by it.
Here we go.
1:53:49
Unknown: When you got D
platformed. it to this day, no
1:53:52
one has ever been more
aggressively censored. I don't
1:53:54
think then you have I have
apologized in person before I
1:53:58
was in Labrador on a fishing
trip and missed the entire thing
1:54:01
was literally out of cell range.
Yes.
1:54:06
John C Dvorak: He says I
apologize to you. Yeah. What it
1:54:12
Why is he apologizing? Did he do
it? I mean, I can say I was I
1:54:19
had condolences. Maybe or I felt
bad about it, because this
1:54:23
happened could have been
anybody. But why is he
1:54:25
apologizing specifically?
1:54:28
Adam Curry: I believe having
seen this interview, which I
1:54:33
have heard a lot of people say
wow, you know, I he was a lot
1:54:36
more sane than I expected him.
Oh, he's
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: always good.
Jones has always been good on
1:54:40
these interviews.
1:54:41
Adam Curry: I think it's because
Tucker says somewhere in this
1:54:46
like no one came to your
defense. No, that's
1:54:48
John C Dvorak: the next clip.
I've
1:54:49
Adam Curry: got that too. That
comes right after it. Well, that
1:54:51
doesn't. That's what it was
about that. He apologize not
1:54:54
that he was going to do it per
se but he he felt like it. He
1:54:58
was out of the loop. He was
literally Out of cell range in
1:55:01
Labrador fishing.
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but but at
that point he needed to what's
1:55:07
the apology for? I don't know
coming to your defense is one
1:55:11
thing hide by you know what are
you apologizing for not coming
1:55:15
to your defense he would have
said hold
1:55:17
Adam Curry: on let me text
Tucker the hell you text hugger.
1:55:22
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go
with the second part is got
1:55:24
another little ditty in here,
which is at the very end, which
1:55:27
is like I didn't know this was
going on. I
1:55:29
Unknown: didn't know what
happened. But I got back and I
1:55:31
was and I read about it. I felt
like it was a major moment in
1:55:34
the history of American media. I
don't think anybody defended
1:55:37
you. When that happened. Anybody
with any kind of audience
1:55:40
for me when Tim Cook admitted
that he met on the weekend in
1:55:44
August 2017, with the other big
tech heads, and they made the
1:55:47
decision to curate like, it's a
museum and take me off. It was
1:55:51
hundreds of platforms. I mean,
it wasn't just all the big ones
1:55:54
that was everything from
LinkedIn, to our bank accounts
1:55:56
being taken away to everything
and suing that week and over the
1:56:00
next month. And I knew that I
was a test case and I wasn't
1:56:04
taken off those platforms for
any demonstrable reason. It was
1:56:09
the questioning the school
shooting thing that came later,
1:56:13
they went and kind of dredge
that up from my past just
1:56:15
questioning and a few times,
blew that up after I've been D
1:56:18
platformed. And said I was the
platform for that. But we
1:56:21
checked the record. I wasn't.
And so once they D platforming
1:56:25
it made the show in ways only
get bigger, but people actually
1:56:28
going to infowars.com and find
me on local radio stations and
1:56:31
things. So then they panic and
said, Okay, let's look at his
1:56:34
record and create more of a
reason. These big taken off. So
1:56:37
they took things out of context
from five, six years before blew
1:56:40
them up as a current thing out
of context. And deceptively
1:56:44
reported on what I've said, to
create a straw man argument to
1:56:47
them facilitate the reason
1:56:48
what's so crazy is if you asked
just a cross section of
1:56:51
Americans, who's responsible for
the Sandy Hook massacre of kids
1:56:56
at the school, no one remembers
the name of the murderer, Adam
1:56:59
Lanza. Okay, thank you. I didn't
remember Alex Jones, you they
1:57:04
effectively blamed you for a
school shooting that you were
1:57:06
not President, I have people
1:57:07
coming up to me in the parking
lot. You can ask my security
1:57:10
guy. He's been there when people
walk up and get Waje kill those
1:57:12
kids. And you know, I didn't
kill those kids. And they go,
1:57:15
Yeah, you did. And so that is
what this has turned into. Okay.
1:57:21
John C Dvorak: I find it very
peculiar that the public at
1:57:24
large. Is that dumb to think
that Alex Jones killed the kids
1:57:28
at Sandy Hook? And I believe
he's probably telling the truth.
1:57:34
Security Guard is in the studio.
True
1:57:36
Adam Curry: as well. I think
it's true as well. Yes, people
1:57:40
are very, you know, remember,
just like Vivec they're sitting
1:57:44
at home reading People Magazine
reading Oprah. Now Oprah is on
1:57:48
this on this shot. I should get
on it with my fat ass. This is
1:57:51
good. The Alex Jones? Well, I'll
give you an example of why
1:57:57
people believe this kind of why,
why they believe that stuff. And
1:58:02
I have some some thoughts about
all this. This is Piers Morgan
1:58:06
on the Alex Jones being back on
x. Oh,
1:58:10
Unknown: passionate defender of
free speech. There's a massive
1:58:13
clue in the name of the show
uncensored, and I believe in it.
1:58:16
I believe that all honestly held
opinions. However offensive they
1:58:19
are belong in the open, where
they can be challenged, debated
1:58:23
and exposed. But there are
limits on free speech. There are
1:58:26
laws and there is a line.
1:58:29
Adam Curry: I love that. I
believe in free speech. But
1:58:31
there's a line.
1:58:33
Unknown: I've always said that
Alex Jones is a perfect example
1:58:35
of where that line got crossed.
He's a conspiracy theorist and
1:58:39
shock jock in America made
hundreds of millions of dollars
1:58:43
by peddling outrageous lies at
the Sandy Hook School massacre
1:58:48
shooting was a hoax. For the
uninitiated. This is him
1:58:52
shouting at me. A week after
that massacre on CNN.
1:58:55
The tyrants did it. Hitler took
the guns. Stalin took the guns
1:58:59
mounted the guns. Fidel Castro
took the guns, though. Chavez
1:59:02
took the guns, and I'm here to
tell you 1776. Again, if you try
1:59:07
to take our firearms doesn't
matter how many lemmings you get
1:59:10
out there on the street begging
for him to have their guns
1:59:12
taken? We will not relinquish
them. Do you understand?
1:59:17
He kind of won that debate,
actually, because the only
1:59:20
response in America to the Sandy
Hook massacre was to do nothing.
1:59:24
In fact, they continue to sell a
lot more guns. A million new
1:59:27
guns get sold in America every
month. And they're already over
1:59:31
400 million in circulation. So
if you're wondering if you're
1:59:34
curious why there are so many
more mass shootings in America
1:59:37
than they used to be. That's why
and if you're wondering what's
1:59:40
going to happen in the next few
years as a million new guns into
1:59:44
circulation, and nothing gets
done to stop mass shootings. My
1:59:49
guess is there'll be a lot more
mass shootings.
1:59:50
Adam Curry: So there you go. So
Piers Morgan makes it about Alex
1:59:54
Jones equals mass shootings in
America. This is because of this
1:59:58
by the way, Peter Here's Morgan
I believe the guy who was
2:00:02
partially if not fully
responsible for spying on dead
2:00:05
people's phones and getting
their voicemails and publishing
2:00:09
them. Today a horrible man. But
there's something else going on
2:00:15
here. And you know, I don't like
Elon Musk. I don't trust him. I
2:00:19
think he's full of crap. He's
not an inventor. He's a
2:00:23
marketing guy, a very good one.
He's part of a cabal with Roelof
2:00:27
Botha, who is now the CEO of
Sequoia Capital. I've seen these
2:00:32
guys in action. I was at the
launch of the very first Tesla
2:00:35
Roadster when he bought it. I
went there with Ray lane. The
2:00:38
whole thing is creepy AF. And he
now he single handedly launched
2:00:47
the bull crap, electrified
revolution. And I don't care how
2:00:53
cool the cybertruck is
engineered this not a good thing
2:00:58
for the world. He has
effectively Skynet. Now we all
2:01:06
joke about oh, Skynet. He has
Skynet. He has a company that
2:01:11
will bore tunnels for the elites
to escape through. He has the
2:01:16
next generation of jacking into
your brain with neural net none
2:01:20
of that in any other world where
he was free speech. This guy
2:01:25
would be no good. But we're all
enamored with him Tony Stark,
2:01:29
the whole thing. It's beautiful
marketing is perfect. So then he
2:01:33
does this thing. It's set up by
of all people. Laura Loomer
2:01:38
actually was a part of this.
They set up the spaces. And
2:01:42
that's where Alex Jones was
reintroduced to x and Elon Musk
2:01:48
that I don't include any of
this, believe me, he comes out
2:01:51
with this whole thing. Well, I
went back into Twitter records.
2:01:54
And the reason you were banned
was not for anything you said
2:01:57
about Sandy Hook. The reason you
were banned is because you
2:01:59
assaulted Oliver Darcy, you
assaulted a journalist and
2:02:03
that's why you were banned. And
then he goes into this whole
2:02:06
thing at Musk is I mean, the
whole thing is full of crap. And
2:02:11
all these people start to jump
in on what I call the info
2:02:15
Mavericks. Or maybe we should
call them the truth warriors.
2:02:20
Laura Loomer upfront who kept
trying to jump in. Yeah, Alex,
2:02:24
when you and I were there, we
said we got right and Jack
2:02:26
Dorsey's face. And so they start
cutting Laura Loomer off because
2:02:30
she's annoying. Laura Loomer is
annoying. And she just keeps
2:02:34
jumping in and they were cutting
her off and then she's all
2:02:36
leaves in a huff. And they bring
in all these other people but
2:02:39
there's, there's the there's the
guy who was in hungry, whatever,
2:02:42
wherever you live, what's his
name Tate that he comes in, and
2:02:46
then Vivec jumps in, and all
these people are all jumping in.
2:02:50
This is the new mainstream media
and Elon Musk is in charge of
2:02:55
this. He is the hero beware of
false idols. Beware of false
2:02:59
idols. Here's a Jake Tapper on
the on what happened here? Let
2:03:04
me see. Do I want this one? No,
I don't want that long. I get
2:03:06
this one
2:03:07
Unknown: says Alex Jones account
has been restored. Now it's not
2:03:12
just up there. It's actively
being promoted across the
2:03:15
platform.
2:03:16
That's right, Jake. Yeah, I'm
Alex Jones. It looks like he's
2:03:19
he's actually grown his audience
by about 100,000 followers just
2:03:23
being since put back on the
platform, our colleague Claire
2:03:26
Duffy, reporting that people
have opened up x the Twitter app
2:03:31
today. Even if they haven't
followed Jones, a lot of people
2:03:34
have been saying that in the
algorithmic feed that promotes
2:03:37
accounts suggesting to people
that they should follow Jones's
2:03:42
account. That is, of course,
five years after he was
2:03:45
initially kicked off the
platform. And really, you know,
2:03:48
I think this is just so
illustrative of what we're
2:03:51
seeing happen with x, but also
with Elon Musk, because he kind
2:03:55
of journeys very publicly down
this rabbit hole of conspiracy
2:04:00
theories, Jake. So
2:04:02
Adam Curry: this is a launch by
Elon Musk. It's a launch and
2:04:07
He's launching something really
big. And I think we have to be
2:04:10
very careful. I mean, Alex is
Alex and he's a sweetheart. He
2:04:14
was dropped on his head, his
baby, that's actually true. So
2:04:17
he does have some brain day he'd
be the first to tell you that.
2:04:20
But he's basically a sweetheart
and he's more right than he's
2:04:23
wrong. In many things. I don't
think he's part of any
2:04:27
gatekeeping community but Elon
Musk is and he's building up a
2:04:31
whole bunch of people around him
and they're willing participants
2:04:34
they're all I mean, it's Megyn
Kelly it's bond Gino, it's all
2:04:38
these people and they're
distracting everybody into this
2:04:41
audio visual Twitter world of
like Tim Poole stuff it's it's
2:04:47
creepy
2:04:47
Unknown: Yeah, he's he's not
even just bring this the account
2:04:51
back. He's playing a role in
elevating Alex Jones account
2:04:54
last night he hosted this x live
stream interview with with him
2:05:00
and a whole bunch of other
questionable folks were were
2:05:04
joining him Andrew Tate, this
misogynistic internet
2:05:07
personality who was indicted on
human trafficking and rape
2:05:10
charges in remote Romania
earlier this year. And to be
2:05:13
completely frank Dhoni, Tate
wasn't even the worst dude in
2:05:17
that conversation. What? Why is
Musk even engaging with these
2:05:20
people? Yeah. And
2:05:22
look, I mean, I think you showed
there that tweet, as you pointed
2:05:26
out, very human tweet from Musk
last year, where he said, Look,
2:05:29
what, what Alex Jones said,
there was so false and
2:05:33
disgusting about Sandy Hook,
that he would never get back on
2:05:37
the platform. Because of that.
You've now seen that over the
2:05:40
past year, Musk, you know, kind
of going further and further and
2:05:45
further to the fringe even up to
a few weeks ago, agreeing with a
2:05:50
anti semitic posts, which he
later tried to clarify and did a
2:05:53
trip to Israel and things like
that. But you know, I've spent a
2:05:57
lot of the past few years
speaking to people who have gone
2:06:01
down rabbit holes of
radicalization theories and
2:06:04
speak to families of Oh, who
have loved ones. And it is quite
2:06:09
reminiscent of that when you see
that, of course, but in this
2:06:12
case, it is one of the most
powerful and one of the
2:06:16
wealthiest men in the world. And
he's promoting these people. And
2:06:19
I will just say that that audio
stream you mentioned, on last
2:06:22
check, it had 11 million people
11 million listeners. Now, of
2:06:25
course, numbers online can be a
little deceiving, but needless
2:06:29
to say, millions of people now
have access to this junk.
2:06:36
Adam Curry: Yes, people love the
junk. Go I have a very bad
2:06:39
feeling about this. I really do.
This is this is this is a
2:06:45
distraction is being set up.
It's like follow the plan, trust
2:06:49
the plan. Now a storm is coming,
which is what the Bolsheviks
2:06:54
said all the time.
2:06:59
John C Dvorak: It was what was
that message? Jones said back to
2:07:01
you again.
2:07:03
Adam Curry: He said I want to
get it verbatim. He said the tie
2:07:13
again here is he said The tide
is turning across the spectrum.
2:07:23
And now there is a tide is
turning because things are
2:07:28
starting to eat themselves the
wokeness in companies I mean
2:07:32
stuff is coming out things are
definitely changing. But I don't
2:07:36
trust this group. I just I and
musk at the helm. And then like
2:07:40
and he's like, Oh, I shall I
shall reinstate you ping. I will
2:07:44
wave my made magic fairy wand
and you're back and good to go.
2:07:48
I don't and I'll and Tucker is
also probably a part of this.
2:07:52
And it's not like a secret
society. But you know, what is
2:07:55
Tucker doing? He's back with
that. Whistleblower on the UFOs.
2:08:00
Oh, boy. Yeah, I'm very good. He
went on redacted which please
2:08:05
don't send me clips from
redacted. I'm not interested in
2:08:08
redacted. And Tucker did an
interview on redacted because we
2:08:12
know Clayton and Natalie Morris.
I personally Yeah, personally,
2:08:16
I'm not impressed. What are they
doing in Portugal? Roche.
2:08:21
They're pro television people.
You train Natalie. So yeah,
2:08:24
they're pros. And I don't know
about that guy do I do. But
2:08:29
Tucker goes on there. And it's
like, let me tell you the thing
2:08:31
I'm most worried about is UFO.
So it's really you know, the
2:08:34
government's holding stuff back
and dude, no, no. So I I'm this
2:08:44
is this is a weird
2:08:46
John C Dvorak: issue too.
2:08:47
Adam Curry: Yes. What's your
issue? What's your issue?
2:08:51
John C Dvorak: I think Tucker's,
you know, well, we always have
2:08:54
to remember anyone who says they
wanted to be a spy for the CIA
2:08:59
probably is one. It's like a
friend of mine, Gina Smith, who
2:09:06
has been on television she has
been around. She told me about
2:09:10
the whole thing where the CIA
approached her while she was in
2:09:13
college because she was in
journalism. And she did laid out
2:09:16
the whole thing about can you
work for us? You don't really
2:09:19
you're not really working for us
but we'll send you a check every
2:09:21
so often we're going to have to
call you because sometimes we
2:09:24
need to make some this was
recently Yeah, we have to get a
2:09:30
certain kind of a message out we
needed to be consolidated it
2:09:33
really they really said
2:09:35
Adam Curry: it like that. Pretty
much Wow.
2:09:38
John C Dvorak: And she wasn't
going to be working for the
2:09:40
agency but she was going to be
in touch.
2:09:45
Adam Curry: How come I don't get
that call? If I never got the
2:09:47
call. I got family in the CIA
and I didn't get that call.
2:09:52
John C Dvorak: But you yourself
said that they don't
2:09:55
Adam Curry: you know, what is
it? They didn't they never liked
2:09:57
the drugs. I think it was the
day don't like
2:09:59
John C Dvorak: drugs and like
draws like a key thing in your
2:10:02
day when drinkers, they like
drinkers. drinkers is good.
2:10:05
Yeah. So she went on and on
about this and and I always
2:10:11
thought, Okay, I'll remember
that. And I was there. Of
2:10:15
course, I don't know what the
criteria is. There's probably
2:10:18
one specific. And I think talker
is one of these guys. And I
2:10:23
think the other one wants to be
in the CIA or wanted to be made
2:10:28
a big fuss about it is Kara
Swisher Kara. And there's
2:10:32
others. There's a bunch of them.
It's usually the funny thing
2:10:35
about this is always on the wiki
page, which is to Me a tell
2:10:40
that's designed for people in
the know to spot and say, oh,
2:10:43
okay, that's, we know which side
you're on. Yeah, I think it's
2:10:47
put there on purpose.
2:10:48
Adam Curry: You know, we may not
we may get things wrong a lot.
2:10:51
We may be full of crap. But I
think we're more trustworthy
2:10:57
than what's going on here. This
is not good. This is not what
2:11:01
Elon is doing. At the idolatry
that is taking place around
2:11:06
everything he does. And Eli's
neck deep and government
2:11:09
contract. That's all that he
doesn't. And why so Okay, so Ha,
2:11:13
boy, we'll we'll make your cars
look bad for a moment here.
2:11:16
Yeah, you know, we'll, we'll
we'll make a dei problem out of
2:11:22
out of your hiring practices at
SpaceX, but not a single
2:11:25
contract is cancelled. In fact,
he's, he he's only sold more
2:11:29
Starlink. To military. And he
doesn't really cop to it either.
2:11:35
That's why he was in in Israel.
He was selling Starlink.
2:11:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why
he was there was doing it wasn't
2:11:41
an Apollo no sales sales
2:11:43
Adam Curry: call. It was a sales
call. So then when you know,
2:11:46
when you get this question here,
last clip?
2:11:48
Unknown: Yeah, it's we should
also know, Jones offenses are
2:11:51
there more than just the Sandy
Hook campaign, which was vile
2:11:55
enough in and of itself. But,
you know, he had a lot of files
2:11:58
that the insurrection on January
6, who are charged with serious
2:12:00
crimes, and one wonders, is Elon
Musk trying to chase normal
2:12:06
people off x, is he trying to
chase advertisers away even more
2:12:11
than he already has?
2:12:13
I mean, I think the conventional
wisdom here would say, you know,
2:12:15
this is going to push
advertisers away, it certainly
2:12:18
is going to be very interesting
what major brands, like
2:12:21
including the NFL are going to
do as this platform continues to
2:12:24
seemingly descend. But let's not
forget, there is a lot of money
2:12:28
in bullshit as well, right? I
mean, we saw this through the
2:12:32
Jones trial, how he made a lot
of money. And if you really tap
2:12:36
into this world, along with
Tucker Carlson and General
2:12:40
Michael Flynn and others, people
who who are taking kind of park
2:12:43
now in this new X community,
that can potentially be quite
2:12:47
lucrative, and potentially,
that's the direction Musk wants
2:12:51
to go a lot
2:12:52
of money and a lot of votes, a
2:12:55
Adam Curry: lot of votes. Hey,
okay.
2:12:58
John C Dvorak: A lot of vote.
Yep. Oh, by the way, code word,
2:13:03
left wing code, word assignment.
A certain side of things is
2:13:06
vile. Oh, is
2:13:07
Adam Curry: that a code word?
Vile?
2:13:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've
noticed that for it. Because I
2:13:11
told people that and they use it
all the time. They file vile
2:13:14
about me. Thank you. It's like a
secret handshake,
2:13:18
Adam Curry: where you say via
what you guys said bullshit on
2:13:20
the air that's new that used to
be like that. I used to be a no,
2:13:24
no. See, I had one other thing
that I was meaning to play from.
2:13:29
Oh, yes. So anyway, it stinks.
The whole thing stinks. I'm sure
2:13:38
that you know, the the whole
idea is get as many people on X
2:13:43
believing and all in all Elans
get Flynn was also on that call.
2:13:48
I mean, I hate to say it, but my
neighbor, you know, she's
2:13:51
another one of them. I'm just
like, you know, let's all go
2:13:54
crazy about this one particular
thing, this one particular
2:13:57
topic. Let's all focus on that
today. That's we're supposed to
2:14:01
be looking at it meanwhile, who
is your neighbor, Laura Logan.
2:14:06
And meanwhile, Pfizer just gets
thrown into the NDA and we're
2:14:10
all talking about Obama being
racist. Do you see you see the
2:14:13
pattern? That's that's what I'm
seeing. I'm seeing like everyone
2:14:16
talks about Obama's a racist,
but meanwhile, it's like oh,
2:14:20
China, China, Korea, Iran, Iran,
Iran Hall got back home and you
2:14:24
Oh, space. Oh, space. We need
more money for space for
2:14:28
defense. And then oh, by the
way, no one's talking about the
2:14:32
FISA being extended. Renewed
right there in the bill, except
2:14:37
for Matt gates on C span.
2:14:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and
everyone thinks he's nuts. Yeah,
2:14:43
he's a child molester.
2:14:44
Adam Curry: That's and who's out
there calling him a horrible
2:14:47
person. Laura Loomer. She's on
Twitter going mad gay. It's it's
2:14:51
common. Yeah, we're gonna you're
gonna learn about him. She's
2:14:56
this what she's doing all day
long and she's she's kind of
2:14:59
like the ugly step step sister
of this of this group, like, Oh,
2:15:04
I'm gonna let her in, because
she has Alex's number, but she's
2:15:08
annoying. cut her off. cut her
off. Cut all of them off.
2:15:15
John C Dvorak: Okay, all right.
Hey, H topics again.
2:15:18
Adam Curry: Yep. Do you want to
hear the OP want to hear the OP,
2:15:21
John C Dvorak: there's an OP,
2:15:21
Adam Curry: there's an OP, the
OP is moving to Harvard. If
2:15:24
Unknown: you're a Swifty, you'll
probably like this course. If
2:15:26
you're a fan of Taylor Swift and
literature, you'll probably love
2:15:29
it. You can learn a lot from
Taylor Swift and earn credits
2:15:35
for it this spring at Harvard.
It's a literature
2:15:37
John C Dvorak: course. And it
has a lot of songs and
2:15:40
songwriting.
2:15:41
Unknown: The course is the
brainchild of Harvard English
2:15:43
professor Stephanie Byrd. It's
called Taylor Swift in her world
2:15:46
and will focus on the
songwriters, lyrics and creative
2:15:49
composition and how they're
connected to other page based
2:15:52
poets and authors,
2:15:53
John C Dvorak: you know, William
Wordsworth and Samuel Taylor
2:15:55
Coleridge, who wrote some of
their poems in the Lake
2:15:58
District, which Taylor has
visited and has song about the
2:16:03
class
2:16:04
Unknown: is also a chance to
study how swift employs video,
2:16:07
her social media and stage
presence and even couture as
2:16:10
vehicles for her art. News of
the course is already blowing up
2:16:14
social media, an estimated 300
students have already enrolled,
2:16:18
I think
2:16:18
it's really important to include
music or culture into normal
2:16:23
pedagogies to get students
engaged.
2:16:26
Adam Curry: I think it would be
really cool and to connect like
2:16:28
different subjects to her music
at the end of the day, I
2:16:31
Unknown: mean, there's a reason
people want to have a course on
2:16:33
it. So after discussion,
2:16:35
John C Dvorak: I love that I'm
able to do this in a way that
2:16:40
both gives people the chance to
study and write about things
2:16:45
they already love. All right,
and not
2:16:47
Adam Curry: just flip at
Harvard, John at Harvard.
2:16:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
where it belongs. Wow. Actually,
2:16:58
you're better songs which are
few and far between. She didn't
2:17:01
even write but okay. I have a
while fraud story from NTD. That
2:17:08
is worth playing. Okay, let's
2:17:10
Adam Curry: do it. A new poll
2:17:11
Unknown: shows one in five male
and voters committed some kind
2:17:14
of election fraud in 2020.
Former President Trump is now
2:17:18
commenting suggesting this backs
up his years old claim of
2:17:21
widespread fraud and today's
area and past our spoke with the
2:17:25
pollster. A
2:17:26
new Heartland Rasmussen poll
found that 21% of male in voters
2:17:30
admitted to filling out a ballot
for somebody else in the 2020
2:17:34
presidential election. 10% of
all respondents said they know
2:17:38
somebody who admitted to casting
a mail in ballot fraudulently,
2:17:42
and 8% of likely voters said
they've been offered the pay or
2:17:45
something else for voting. Now
almost half of all 2020 votes
2:17:49
were cast by mail the most ever
in US history. Consider
2:17:53
how close the 2020 election was.
2:17:55
This is extremely troubling. Jim
Lakely
2:17:58
is the vice president of the
Heartland Institute, which
2:18:01
conducted the poll. He said they
expected that maybe 5% of Malin
2:18:05
voters would admit to some kind
of voter fraud, and that they
2:18:08
were shocked when they saw the
number was over 20% Former
2:18:12
President Trump took to social
media commenting on the poll,
2:18:16
writing this is the biggest
story of the year, and
2:18:18
Republicans must do something
about it. Now lately told me
2:18:22
that some states did actually
have reasonable safety measures
2:18:25
in place when it comes to mail
in voting, but that those were
2:18:29
abandoned during the COVID
pandemic. He also says that
2:18:32
people are now being discouraged
from talking about potential
2:18:35
voter fraud in the 2020
election, but that Americans,
2:18:39
including Democrats have
routinely questioned the
2:18:41
election results in the past,
for example, when George Bush
2:18:44
won against John Kerry, or
Trump's 2016 win,
2:18:48
yet suddenly in 2020, when
everybody can see with their own
2:18:52
eyes, that our election system
has been thrown into complete
2:18:55
chaos. That is the only election
in which it is not proper to
2:18:59
question whether the regional
results are legitimate. There
2:19:02
was no suppressing of those
sorts of ideas and thoughts for
2:19:06
every other presidential
election
2:19:08
since the year 2000.
2:19:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, isn't it
interesting that all we can talk
2:19:12
about is Alex Jones back on x.
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: When Nobody's
talking about this story? No, of
2:19:17
Adam Curry: course not. That's
no, that's my point. Where's
2:19:20
Megyn? Kelly on the story?
Where's Tucker on this story?
2:19:24
Where are these people on the
story? No.
2:19:26
John C Dvorak: Where do I get it
from?
2:19:28
Unknown: In TNT if
2:19:30
John C Dvorak: nobody listens to
them?
2:19:32
Adam Curry: Indeed, yes.
2:19:35
John C Dvorak: I just found this
to be like a wow story. And it
2:19:38
was like what this is the most
impressed story, because it does
2:19:42
bring into question. I mean,
this whole mail in balloting, we
2:19:45
know and has been reports has
been studies and Advancers I
2:19:48
think goes way back into the 70s
that it was always considered a
2:19:51
very bad idea because it was so
easily corruptible. Here. They
2:19:54
come up with some some survey
shows it was corrupted. Nobody
2:19:59
wants to hear about it. Well
forget it. And Trump, by the
2:20:02
way, saying, Oh, the Republicans
should do something about it is
2:20:05
a real laugh for
2:20:08
Adam Curry: him. But no, but the
point is, both Republicans and
2:20:12
Democrats employ these tactics.
They both they both they have to
2:20:17
this is going this coming
election is going to be who's
2:20:20
going to cheat the best. It's
obvious. That's why there's
2:20:24
there's no torque wash. We've
been doing this in Florida for a
2:20:28
long time. We don't want anyone
to learn how we do it. Like
2:20:33
John C Dvorak: California is
worse than Florida. There's no
2:20:34
question in my mind about that.
2:20:36
Adam Curry: By the way, this,
this product is special
2:20:39
prosecutor Jack Smith. Who's the
guy who's going after Trump?
2:20:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:20:46
Adam Curry: it'd be his love
looking gun. Yeah. Well, his
2:20:49
background is starting to come
up a little bit. And the
2:20:52
allegation is that while he was
at the International Criminal
2:20:56
Court, he was part of like big
campaigns with 10s if not
2:21:03
hundreds of millions of euros
slash dollars. With bribery
2:21:09
money, Hey, you want me to not
prosecute, prosecute you better?
2:21:12
You better send me $10 million
in Bitcoin. I love the Bitcoin
2:21:16
part. There's a whistleblower
John Moynihan. He filed a
2:21:22
complaint with the Department of
Justice inspector general's
2:21:24
office on November 28, alleging
Jack Smith, special prosecutor
2:21:28
pursuing Donald Trump was
engaged in extortion. That's the
2:21:31
word extortion scheme while he
was working at the International
2:21:34
Court of Justice
2:21:38
John C Dvorak: was another story
I haven't seen on CBS. That's a
2:21:42
good story. I'd like to get
destroyed. This was floating
2:21:45
around even though I got it from
him. Yeah, I think this is it.
2:21:48
This is the Trump twist on the
Trump case. Turning
2:21:53
Unknown: now to some court
actions former President Trump
2:21:55
catches a break US District
Judge Tanya Chutkan. Today
2:21:59
halted all proceedings in his
federal election case. Trump is
2:22:03
appealing to have the case
dismissed on grounds of
2:22:05
presidential immunity, that
decision could potentially lead
2:22:09
to a significant delay in all
future proceedings. But Judge
2:22:13
Chutkan said that it doesn't
necessarily cancel the pre trial
2:22:16
deadlines. As of now,
prosecutors are urging Chutkan
2:22:20
to stay on track and keep the
march 4 trial date in place to
2:22:25
speed things up. Special Counsel
Jack Smith is hoping to skip the
2:22:28
appeals court and instead let
the Supreme Court hear the case.
2:22:32
Despite the temporary pause
Chutkan noted that the gag order
2:22:36
is still in effect. Yeah,
2:22:38
Adam Curry: this is this is in
the news. This? I have seen
2:22:41
this.
2:22:43
John C Dvorak: So yeah, it's
hard to understand what's
2:22:46
actually going on? Well,
2:22:48
Adam Curry: it seems like the
Supreme Court will have some say
2:22:51
over this. And I think the point
is that the dates that Jack
2:22:55
Smith wants in March, you know,
to start all this to make sure
2:22:59
they put them behind bars before
the election. That seems like
2:23:03
those dates are in parallel now.
And and so I guess the Supreme
2:23:08
Court can just delay and delay
and delay. Well, the
2:23:11
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court
from their recent track record
2:23:14
isn't going to even take this
thing. There's no evidence that
2:23:16
they will. I mean, if did way
I've been watching the Supreme
2:23:20
Court, they would go it would go
like this. Why didn't this go to
2:23:23
an appeals court before it got
to us?
2:23:26
Adam Curry: I'm not the expert,
but we have an expert. And he
2:23:29
can rob can probably tell us our
Supreme Court attorney.
2:23:35
John C Dvorak: Yes, he will.
Maybe he will. Maybe we'll get a
2:23:37
note from him.
2:23:38
Adam Curry: I hope so. Before we
take a break, I think because
2:23:42
we're we're running we're
running long here. I think we
2:23:44
should talk about Ukraine and
Zelinsky coming in and and
2:23:48
trying to try to get some money.
He was he was literally hanging
2:23:54
out with defense contractors.
There's pictures of for the
2:23:58
Boeing guys the Raytheon guys,
he's he's just doing sales for
2:24:03
them. They're like, Hey, Blood,
good work. Come on, man. Get
2:24:08
some credit, get some credit.
2:24:10
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with this Ukraine hang up
2:24:12
Democracy Now. Clip as you have
this takes us anywhere.
2:24:15
Unknown: Ukrainian president
Volodymyr Zelensky ended his
2:24:18
high stakes day in Washington,
DC Tuesday, with little progress
2:24:22
and securing additional war
funding. President Biden vowed
2:24:26
the US would support Ukraine
quote as long as we can,
2:24:29
unquote, and urged Congress to
pass a spending request of over
2:24:33
$100 billion, which also
includes funding for Israel,
2:24:36
Taiwan, and further
militarization of the US border.
2:24:41
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just
gonna keep going, though.
2:24:44
John C Dvorak: This is Amy. What
is she talking about further
2:24:47
further militarization of our
border. That's what does that
2:24:52
mean? She's borders wide open.
There's no militarization of the
2:24:57
border.
2:24:58
Adam Curry: Amy, come on, this
is what she does. We love Amy
2:25:00
for that we love we love her
little quips she's beautiful.
2:25:03
She she should be a professor at
Harvard. She be perfect.
2:25:07
Actually, she'd be she shouldn't
be an honorary John.
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: Actually, I'm
surprised she's not.
2:25:12
Adam Curry: I have a little
different take on it. I've only
2:25:14
two clips. Because Vladimir
Putin, President of Russia,
2:25:19
running for his fifth term. He
did his big show the big show
2:25:23
again. It was He cancelled it
last year. This is the TV show
2:25:28
where he goes live for hours and
hours and hours. And just any
2:25:33
he's joking around. He's
answering questions. He's got a
2:25:36
whole panel there. Yeah. Does
Trump owe many times over this?
2:25:42
It's a great show. I mean, I
don't understand Russian of
2:25:45
course, but luckily, we have
douchebag Doug from France 24.
2:25:51
And he's going to give us a
little quick overview, and then
2:25:54
we'll get the Dortch Avella
version. But But I love
2:25:57
douchebag dog because he tries
to do sarcasm at this very
2:26:01
dangerous when you do sarcasm
because people take that
2:26:05
seriously. If you're I don't
know not funny.
2:26:07
Unknown: Yeah, his position
hasn't changed at all. If
2:26:09
anything after being canceled
last year. This has been his
2:26:12
first annual marathon press
conference since the Russian
2:26:15
invasion of Ukraine. If
anything, he has a lot of stress
2:26:18
in his steps this year. Why?
Because it comes at a crucial
2:26:20
moment. It comes at a moment
where Western support Western
2:26:24
military aid for Ukraine appears
to be dwindling as Republicans,
2:26:28
especially in the United States
Congress block a new aid
2:26:31
package. This impotence do
validates what he's been saying
2:26:35
all along that the West is
basically doesn't have the
2:26:38
staying power, that it's weak
and DEC decadent and ultimately
2:26:41
that Putin and his forces his
army will outlast the Western so
2:26:45
called resolve the as long as it
takes resolved, standing
2:26:48
shoulder to shoulder with
Ukraine. He's reiterated that
2:26:51
and his objectives when I say
nothing's changed in his
2:26:53
position, yes, it was canceled
last year. This press
2:26:55
conference, right. This was the
first time after one year
2:26:58
hiatus. It was being held again.
But what he said is our
2:27:01
objectives there won't be peace
until we achieve our objectives.
2:27:04
What are those objectives? They
were very he was very clear. In
2:27:07
regards to Ukraine, its
detoxification going back to
2:27:10
what has become the staple of
the false Kremlin narrative that
2:27:13
somehow they're neo Nazi Hunter
running Ukraine. So d not
2:27:17
suffocation, a word that we
hadn't heard as much lately, but
2:27:19
he's rehashed it this year, in
full in full force at this press
2:27:23
conference, de militarization of
Ukraine. Remember, it's not
2:27:26
Russia that's been the aggressor
here and attacked Ukraine and
2:27:29
invaded Ukraine. No, no, no.
It's the EU. It's Ukraine in the
2:27:32
West. We at the US and NATO's
behest, that invaded that
2:27:36
basically attacked Russia and
also returning Ukraine to
2:27:40
neutral status. He is unbending
unbowed. He says he's always
2:27:43
open for talks, but he's only
going to talk if when the with
2:27:47
the West is also willing to play
ball and talk.
2:27:49
Adam Curry: I mean, he makes it
sound like you like Ukraine
2:27:53
attack Russia. This guy is no
good. Doug needs a new gig. So
2:27:59
he pontificates about what Putin
saying Deutsche Avella. They
2:28:03
took it a lot more straight and
is a little more nuanced.
2:28:05
Vladimir
2:28:06
Unknown: Putin has said Russia
has goals in Ukraine remain
2:28:08
unchanged as he holds his end of
your press conference. In
2:28:13
Moscow, the Russian president is
taking questions from the public
2:28:16
and journalists in an event that
has been broadcast live on
2:28:20
Russian state television, and is
expected to last for hours and
2:28:24
they should put in who is
running for re election in March
2:28:27
canceled at last year's show.
And Russia's full scale invasion
2:28:31
of Ukraine. What is even worse,
we'll be analyzing what the
2:28:37
Russian president has said so
far in just a moment. But first,
2:28:40
let's have a listen to some of
what he's had to say.
2:28:43
Adam Curry: So this isn't so now
they're going live and they're
2:28:46
translating in live in real
time, the true translation of
2:28:50
what Putin said and you just
heard Doug pontificate on, he
2:28:55
could have been with this,
2:28:56
Unknown: there will be peace
when we achieve our goals. Now,
2:28:59
let's get back to these goals.
Well, they don't change. Remind
2:29:04
you of what we talked about
today about the suffocation,
2:29:08
about MIDI militarization,
neutral status and Windigo ideas
2:29:12
and with it, we will agree on
demilitarization agree on
2:29:15
certain parameters. During the
negotiations in Istanbul, we
2:29:19
agreed on it and they simply
through these agreements into
2:29:22
the oven. Other possibilities to
reach an agreement or to resolve
2:29:27
it by force is what we strive
for.
2:29:30
Adam Curry: Sounds a lot more
nuanced. Yeah. Yeah. And
2:29:35
demilitarized. You know what
that means? A demilitarized
2:29:38
zone?
2:29:39
John C Dvorak: It will French 24
doesn't like Putin at all and
2:29:42
we're getting Deutsche Avella
which we think is agent of the
2:29:45
CIA is probably part of the
system to try to stop this
2:29:49
thing.
2:29:49
Adam Curry: It has to stop again
bad product war is not a good
2:29:53
product.
2:29:56
John C Dvorak: And then there
are defense guys got their
2:29:58
Adam Curry: money. Now they want
more More than yeah well they
2:30:01
can always want more like always
getting there $886 billion worth
2:30:06
what a scam how your potholes
2:30:12
John C Dvorak: still there a lot
of them well they patch them
2:30:14
once in a while but I can still
find places where there's just
2:30:16
tons of them. With
2:30:18
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage in
2:30:20
the morning to you the man who
put the seeds in the Chinese
2:30:22
cyber actors ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:30:25
on the other end there John Cena
2:30:30
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. Adam curry in the
2:30:32
morning chips to see boots on
the ground feet near subs in the
2:30:35
water. games nights out there
man
2:30:44
Adam Curry: nope, nope, not we
have. What did? Oh, goodness.
2:30:48
1658.
2:30:50
John C Dvorak: Down.
2:30:51
Adam Curry: We're down. We're
dying here. We're dying on the
2:30:53
vine.
2:30:53
John C Dvorak: That should be
1800 on Thursday. Well, it's
2:30:56
Adam Curry: not 200 drove we
drove away. It was the Taylor
2:31:00
Swift clip. I'm sure of it.
2:31:02
John C Dvorak: I would have done
it.
2:31:03
Adam Curry: I apologize. I
didn't mean to do it. They
2:31:06
trolls Good to have you here you
can become one as well. Go to
2:31:09
troll room.io You can listen
live no agenda streams was
2:31:13
playing there. Yes.
2:31:14
John C Dvorak: Hey, I didn't
hear it today. I didn't hear the
2:31:17
pre show. But I understand that.
Darren went nuts over Taylor
2:31:22
Swift. He just did a whole show.
He
2:31:25
Adam Curry: did a he did a
Taylor Swift Def Leppard mix.
2:31:30
Yeah, he's right. He's right. I
know. I don't know what I don't
2:31:36
know what's wrong with him?
Well, I do but I don't know
2:31:38
what's gotten into. We all know
what's wrong with there. And
2:31:44
that is what you can listen to
before we start live. We do the
2:31:47
show live on Thursdays and
Sundays. You can listen to the
2:31:49
Rock and Roll pre show before
that. That is the illustrious
2:31:53
Darren O'Neill, who by the way
was talking about all that stuff
2:31:56
on Tuesday. He was talking about
the about the mailing ballots he
2:32:01
broke that news. He has a show
with Sir Jean and they must
2:32:05
John C Dvorak: say hell biggest
50 listeners are all the way up
2:32:08
on now. More than don't kidding
I kid
2:32:14
Adam Curry: you know he's he
plays all this stuff. And he
2:32:17
makes fun of you throughout the
whole show. Now, you've become
2:32:19
the show layman.
2:32:20
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't if I
was him. I do the same thing. To
2:32:23
defensive major.
2:32:25
Adam Curry: We also recommend
that you get a modern podcast
2:32:28
app. Man, this if you're looking
for something that's great on on
2:32:33
your iPhone, I'm sorry to hear
that you have an iPhone cast
2:32:37
thematic. If you're looking for
a great the experience on the
2:32:41
web pod fans. There's I'm liking
podcast guru, right and right
2:32:46
now, fountain is completely
refactored, they finally
2:32:49
released version one. I mean,
there's a lot of activity going
2:32:52
on the best thing about these
apps, besides the fact that you
2:32:55
get notified when we go live,
you get notified within 90
2:32:59
seconds of us updating the show,
you can't get that with any
2:33:03
other old legacy app, you want
to have the new stuff. And if
2:33:08
anyone ever gets the platform
thrown off of Apple or any other
2:33:12
of those big platforms, you'll
still will be uninterrupted
2:33:15
entertainment for you. Thanks to
the modern podcast apps. Yeah,
2:33:20
that's good stuff.
2:33:22
John C Dvorak: It is. I want to
make a can I make an
2:33:24
announcement before we get too
far into this and people started
2:33:26
hanging up?
2:33:27
Adam Curry: Well, is it about
eggs?
2:33:29
John C Dvorak: No, it's about
process. I want to remind people
2:33:36
if they if they ordered their
PhD, they should go to the no
2:33:39
agenda rings.com site and send
us an address to mail them to
2:33:46
which apparently a lot of people
have figured well, didn't you
2:33:48
get it from PayPal? Or? I don't
know. I didn't know that. Oh,
2:33:51
really? Do we have that issue?
2:33:53
Adam Curry: Do you know it's I'm
pretty sure every single
2:33:56
knighting and naming ceremony I
specifically say enter the
2:34:02
address where you want us to
send the ring and your wax and
2:34:04
your certificate? I'm pretty
sure I say that.
2:34:08
John C Dvorak: You do and every
single show we always tell that
2:34:10
people that know something but
we are a little lacs on telling
2:34:13
people to send their notes to
notes. At no agenda show.net
2:34:18
Instead of Gu
2:34:20
Adam Curry: that'll, that'll
never get fixed. That'll never
2:34:23
get fixed
2:34:24
John C Dvorak: to they send one
to you and send one to me and
2:34:26
they send it you know, so I send
it to Jay and use DJ and has to
2:34:30
sort these out.
2:34:31
Adam Curry: I know. Oh, she is
finally starting. There you go.
2:34:35
She's starting to complain. She
2:34:37
John C Dvorak: didn't. She
mentioned it wasn't complaining.
2:34:40
She's got
2:34:40
Adam Curry: the COVID we're
breaking her we're breaking J
2:34:43
Well, we
2:34:43
John C Dvorak: can keep going.
We'll get her as she's sick as
2:34:46
sucks. As she gets it flu. I
2:34:49
Adam Curry: think we're almost
over we took the ivermectin we
2:34:52
took quesiton D three. Yeah. And
it Tina got
2:34:58
John C Dvorak: Lindsay Do you
ever figure out what you have?
2:35:00
It wasn't
2:35:01
Adam Curry: I don't know I'm not
gonna test I'm not a moron. You
2:35:04
John C Dvorak: know to test you
can tell these things are all
2:35:05
slightly different. You sure you
should know your body enough to
2:35:08
say, Oh, I'm getting catching
the flu? Well,
2:35:10
Adam Curry: I know exactly what
I had. But if you want to know,
2:35:14
dude, I had the wave this
2:35:16
Unknown: morning hearing from
several
2:35:18
health experts about a potential
COVID 19 surge at the end of
2:35:21
this month.
2:35:21
That's right. The latest model
show a wave is coming. But ABC
2:35:24
Action wave
2:35:25
Adam Curry: is coming. It's j n
dot one baby. Don't you know the
2:35:30
wave is coming? The wave the
wave j n one the wave the best
2:35:35
hot his rock station?
2:35:38
John C Dvorak: That's what I'm
saying one way. One on your
2:35:44
dial.
2:35:45
Adam Curry: Dan one. Yeah,
exactly. Exactly. Yeah, people
2:35:51
helped Jay out. And by the way,
you know, it'll never be linked
2:35:56
from divorce.org/na. But no
agenda donations.com It has all
2:36:01
that information there. And I
say this, I say I give this
2:36:04
address as well. All right,
yeah, you can't change people's
2:36:06
behavior. We can try. But if you
want your rings, then you get it
2:36:12
much faster
2:36:13
John C Dvorak: diplomas, too, we
gotta get we gotta get the rest
2:36:15
of them out Ross ship. If the
6075 Oh,
2:36:20
Adam Curry: through process
people. Process closing process,
2:36:23
I
2:36:23
John C Dvorak: wanted to make a
complaint about process. And so
2:36:26
there you have it.
2:36:27
Adam Curry: And you should sign
it the management. All caps, all
2:36:32
caps. Value for value is the
entire system here, which is now
2:36:40
being used everywhere around the
internet, people are catching on
2:36:42
to the idea. Of course, we knew
this 16 years ago, this is the
2:36:46
only model for the future.
2:36:48
John C Dvorak: They will it's a
it's a safe model, because you
2:36:51
can't get D platformed. Right.
You can't get somebody put some
2:36:57
one lunatic. pressuring your
advertisers is all it takes to
2:37:01
get them all care where we
shouldn't advertise with them.
2:37:03
Now, it only takes one lunatic.
Yep,
2:37:07
Adam Curry: that's right. And
one loud lunatic and I think we
2:37:10
have a few.
2:37:12
John C Dvorak: We have more than
a few loud lunatics. Again, some
2:37:16
nasty notes recently. We'd have
when you were going to read
2:37:20
Adam Curry: this coming up
what's coming up in a minute.
2:37:22
It's a doozy. It's a real it's a
real doozy. So the concept is
2:37:28
time, talent or treasure. We
give you all the value we have.
2:37:32
And we've been we really try
hard. I mean, we work all week
2:37:35
at this stuff. We do during
holidays. Vacations, we take
2:37:40
probably about two shows a year
off. And total was was I think
2:37:45
it was one more this year
because of some surgical stuff I
2:37:48
was going through. I really
really couldn't talk. Otherwise,
2:37:54
chop an arm off and I'll still
show up that's a shutout but
2:38:02
there's a lot of things that
people can do and you can
2:38:04
contribute because we don't
consider your listeners or fans
2:38:07
or the audience. No, you are
producers of the no agenda show.
2:38:11
We do it all together. You are
no agenda nation. There's a lot
2:38:15
of things you do on your own
motivation. See the meetups, but
2:38:19
you know, meetup site,
everything. Everything has been
2:38:22
done by you guys. I mean, even
the concept like douchebag de
2:38:26
douching karma, none of that.
We're not that creative. We
2:38:30
didn't dream that we're not
creative. We don't have any
2:38:32
meeting like hey, let's go over
some creative No, you guys do
2:38:35
it. We Oh, that's creative.
Yeah, a lot of the clips, a lot
2:38:39
of the great finds a lot of
fantastic things. It is all you
2:38:42
and it is really appreciated.
Now, some people have more
2:38:47
talent than others. Some have
more time than others. Some have
2:38:50
more treasure. The artists have
talent. And we want to thank the
2:38:54
clip custodian, Neil Jones for
the artwork for Episode 1615,
2:39:00
titled day one dictator. And of
course, we believe this was
2:39:05
complete AI but it was it was a
nice depiction of the Milgram
2:39:09
experiment. I love it when we
put these things on x. And we
2:39:13
you know, we send them out into
the ether and people go that
2:39:16
should be on a t shirt. I love
that that's how good this stuff
2:39:19
is. It is it is it. This was a
great piece. We love that a lot
2:39:25
the clip custodian. There's
another perfect example the clip
2:39:28
custodian. He sends me clips
every single show and his
2:39:32
brother, the clip collector. I
think he sends you clips. Steve,
2:39:37
John C Dvorak: does he not? Yes.
Steve says me a three by
2:39:40
Adam Curry: three by three.
Exactly. I mean, and you know,
2:39:42
and you know what's cool?
Sometimes then I'll send it
2:39:46
like, Hey, I got something else
to do. That's cool, too. That's
2:39:49
what makes it so beautiful. We
don't have contracts. There was
2:39:53
like, Hey, man, you're supposed
to deliver clips every single
2:39:55
show. Oh yeah. You're fired,
you're fired. You're no good.
2:40:03
John C Dvorak: That's actually
the only thing we miss, like
2:40:05
the, like
2:40:06
Adam Curry: the Art Generator,
you know. So sir Polka toured.
2:40:09
But the thing has been running
for over 12 years. 13 years. And
2:40:15
he actually now on no agenda art
generated.com. He has a preview
2:40:18
down at the bottom of what the
new generator will look like.
2:40:21
And he has a note for us at the
top. I see that. Yeah, he says
2:40:23
the legacy chapter artworks. Now
this is important because we
2:40:28
were using those, you know, this
would Dred Scott does another
2:40:30
great guy with time on his
hands, who does all the chapter
2:40:35
art that work in the modern
podcast apps? And I think also
2:40:37
on no agenda. show.net, he said
was almost able to deploy before
2:40:41
the start of the show and may
still be able to get deployed
2:40:43
before the end of show dealing
with some config issues in
2:40:46
production. I hate JavaScript
developers. Wow. So it'll be he
2:40:54
says,
2:40:54
John C Dvorak: everybody does
Dante.
2:40:58
Adam Curry: I die. I have no
opinion on that. And down at the
2:41:02
bottom, it looks like it's gonna
be beautiful. And so we're
2:41:04
patient. We're cool. And he's in
everyone's chipped in,
2:41:06
everyone's figured it out.
They're posting a no agenda
2:41:09
social. He's linking it in. It's
a beautiful thing, man, we
2:41:12
appreciate it. Take your time,
brother. That's part of how it
2:41:15
works here. And don't pressure
him. No pressure him. So this is
2:41:20
where it's Oh, of course, we
don't have the same level of, of
2:41:25
supply. Just because it's, you
know, it's it's a more
2:41:28
complicated process. I'm sure a
couple artists like well, you
2:41:31
know, I wait, you know, they'll
wait until it's back up. But
2:41:34
still people are doing it and
we're so thankful for that. So
2:41:39
thankful. So thank you to the
clip custodian. There were a
2:41:42
couple other pieces we
discussed. I liked the CIA
2:41:44
manual from Francisco
Scaramanga. And you can play
2:41:49
along at home if you want to
know genart. generator.com Yeah,
2:41:52
you didn't like that one. I
thought it was funny. To
2:41:55
John C Dvorak: strictly use you
couldn't see that he was can't
2:41:58
read that little thing in there
and little
2:42:00
Adam Curry: read. Can't read it.
And you can read that just fine.
2:42:03
But
2:42:03
John C Dvorak: I'm going to use
that as the example of future
2:42:05
example when you bitch and moan
about it. You can't read it.
2:42:08
That is my new. I kind of like
to train Yeah, we did talk about
2:42:13
the train. Right. It was like it
was so AI that it was to AI.
2:42:18
Side. particularly funny. No,
no.
2:42:23
Adam Curry: Train comb your
hair, man. No, I mean, this was
2:42:27
it. This was the one I
2:42:29
John C Dvorak: think the robot
was also AI and then the globe
2:42:31
thing was AI. And then there was
a it was all I said, all these
2:42:35
pieces, except maybe one or two
of them. Which were the lamer
2:42:39
ones
2:42:40
Adam Curry: speaking, speaking
of AI, they want to hear this is
2:42:42
a fun thing. If someone taught
me this today, so if you go into
2:42:47
chat GPT and you say, I have I'm
typing this now three towels on
2:42:55
a clothes line, and it takes
three hours for them to dry. How
2:43:05
long will it take nine towels to
dry? I asked you what would the
2:43:12
answer be?
2:43:14
John C Dvorak: The real answer
should take about the same
2:43:16
amount of time.
2:43:18
Adam Curry: The drying time for
towel I'm reading this live the
2:43:21
drying time for towels depends
on various factors including the
2:43:23
material of the towels dishes,
neither
2:43:25
John C Dvorak: typical of these
answers the air
2:43:29
Adam Curry: the air circulation.
However, if we assume that the
2:43:31
conditions remain constant, you
can make a simple assumption
2:43:34
that the drying time is directly
proportional to the number of
2:43:37
tiles in this case, if it takes
three hours for three towels to
2:43:40
dry, you can estimate that it
would take nine towels three
2:43:43
times as long, assuming all
other factors remain constant.
2:43:46
Therefore it might take
approximately nine hours for
2:43:48
nine towels to dry under the
same conditions. Yeah, wrong.
2:43:52
Yeah. Keep in mind, this is a
rough estimation. And the actual
2:43:55
dries could vary based on
factors mentioned earlier. How
2:43:59
stupid is this? It can't do
math. I love I listen as well.
2:44:06
John C Dvorak: Is that really
math or logic? It's pretty
2:44:10
Adam Curry: basic. I mean,
you're saying you're excusing
2:44:14
this behavior?
2:44:16
John C Dvorak: This is this I
think AI is the best is from
2:44:18
Adam Curry: an $89 billion
company.
2:44:23
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
that minor
2:44:25
Adam Curry: thing. minor thing.
So yeah, people Yeah, yeah, at
2:44:29
least we get funky art. Yay.
Good. Good for you. Because
2:44:33
John C Dvorak: these guys if you
if you know how to use these art
2:44:36
generators, the AI ones and you
can fine tune it. You can
2:44:40
correct it. You know how to do
it. Yeah, you can produce some
2:44:43
because we've been picking
really good stuff. Yeah, that's
2:44:46
great. Totally. I mean, I yeah,
I we don't worry so much about
2:44:51
plagiarism.
2:44:53
Adam Curry: No, exact that's a
thing of the past. Yeah.
2:44:57
John C Dvorak: Why bother? Why
bother your plagiarize anymore?
2:45:00
Are why bother to the US?
clipart?
2:45:02
Adam Curry: Exactly. Give up
those licenses. This
2:45:05
John C Dvorak: is really this is
a I think it's a on the on the
2:45:10
other clip side of the AI.
Praise is the fact that is this
2:45:15
is I guess in the hands of real
good artists is maybe a benefit.
2:45:21
But I think overall it's a it's
a it's costing jobs. It's gonna
2:45:27
cost jobs,
2:45:28
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, and
jobs. Some jobs. But you know,
2:45:35
we lost the buggy drivers to
replace them with cabbies, but
2:45:40
turbans in New York.
2:45:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they've got
to be replaced by self driving
2:45:44
vehicles except in San Francisco
with
2:45:48
Adam Curry: fire 900 People from
cruise. Cruise cruisers shutting
2:45:52
down.
2:45:54
John C Dvorak: They have to
2:45:54
Adam Curry: one guy they drag
one guy. Yeah. How fair is that?
2:45:59
One guy they drag along the
streets of San Francisco. Gotta
2:46:03
fire 900 people. Where's the
equity in that? I asked you.
2:46:08
Yeah. Well, speaking of New
York, Rick Schell duar. He's in
2:46:14
Brooklyn comes in with what I
call the striper donation.
2:46:19
Seven, seven. And he says, I saw
sir spoon makers ring at the
2:46:25
Brooklyn meetup. Oh, there was a
Brooklyn meeting. I didn't get
2:46:27
the meetup report. Oh, there we
have producers in Brooklyn who
2:46:31
met is I want one. This donation
should bring me up to 1000 I'm
2:46:36
thankful my brother. My brother
Mel car and Tucson and my smokin
2:46:41
hot wife winter snark of 17
years, which is why I had to
2:46:45
leave the meet up. And oh my
case, what?
2:46:52
John C Dvorak: BOMA casi Alma
Cassie,
2:46:54
Adam Curry: what does that mean?
Like, Hey, is that fast? Like I
2:46:57
did meet lead the meet up? And
I'm a kossei
2:47:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:47:02
Adam Curry: I don't under I
don't know. I don't know what
2:47:03
you what we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna night you no matter
2:47:07
what. Thank you. And he doesn't
ask for anything else. So that's
2:47:10
easy one. Oh, my kossei.
2:47:14
John C Dvorak: So we have a note
from the indie in. In a meet F
2:47:18
in Greenwood, Indiana. Is this
this separate third week of the
2:47:21
same? No.
2:47:23
Adam Curry: Do we have? No, no,
no, this is the new media. This
2:47:26
is from the raffle. So they
finally figured out the raffle
2:47:30
they figured out because they
wanted to do it on the last
2:47:32
show. And like we could sneak it
in 10 minutes before you start
2:47:35
splitting.
2:47:36
John C Dvorak: But that show
before that, why didn't you do
2:47:38
it, then that's when you came
back. Because
2:47:41
Adam Curry: as I explained, they
have a very complicated process.
2:47:44
And it's very well organized,
just a little slow,
2:47:47
John C Dvorak: organized and may
switcheroo donation day.
2:47:50
Adam Curry: You can be grateful.
I'm grateful
2:47:53
John C Dvorak: for it. But I
would like it to be a little
2:47:55
more consolidated. I think there
this is
2:47:57
Adam Curry: the consolidation.
This is from the raffle. Those
2:48:00
other ones were people who were
just there and donated because
2:48:03
they were there. This is from
the raffle. And it's all
2:48:05
consolidated. It
2:48:07
John C Dvorak: is Yes. Which
rule donation from indie media
2:48:09
for Vikon of Hamilton and the
two pennies and no jingles. No
2:48:12
karma. Well, that's a plus. I
just want to thank Adam and Tina
2:48:16
for visiting. Okay. God bless.
Okay, so I guess that'll be the
2:48:21
end of it.
2:48:21
Adam Curry: No, because the next
one is also these are all the
2:48:25
you know how it works, they do a
raffle, and they consolidate it
2:48:28
all. And then they gave away
like four executive producer
2:48:32
ships and one associate and this
is and they sent it in one
2:48:34
email. What's your gripe?
2:48:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, just
saying, You
2:48:38
Adam Curry: know what I know,
I'm asking you a question.
2:48:40
What's your gripe? What's wrong?
What did they do wrong? So we
2:48:42
can make you a happier man?
Well, I don't
2:48:45
John C Dvorak: care one way or
the other. But I thought this
2:48:47
would all be resolved. And you
went there. And then there was a
2:48:51
big meet up report and you had
all the donations together and
2:48:54
everything you'd like normally
you do a meet up. And then if
2:48:57
there's a report on the meetup,
and then all the donations are
2:49:00
submitted, and they all goes
through at once. This is the
2:49:03
been the third week that we've
been doing the same plugs for
2:49:06
the India in a meet up
2:49:08
Adam Curry: now you don't
understand?
2:49:10
John C Dvorak: I guess not know.
They just say it's never
2:49:15
happened before.
2:49:17
Adam Curry: It's never they've
never had this many donations
2:49:19
before. Which is why I'm just
grateful. switcharoo donation
2:49:23
from the indie meetup for John
Jones 333. And he says just want
2:49:28
to thank Adam and the keeper for
coming to the Indianapolis
2:49:31
meetup. I was one of the lucky
winners of the raffle for an
2:49:33
executive producer level
donation. For the first oddly
2:49:37
enough 33 years of my life, I
had only been surrounded by
2:49:41
people of a particular mindset,
which I didn't share. It wasn't
2:49:45
until I started listening to the
show that I found that others
2:49:48
were similar free thinkers.
Thank you for the no agenda show
2:49:52
as I have not had to feel like I
was such an anomaly for the past
2:49:56
11 years. Yikes.
2:49:59
John C Dvorak: Beautiful.
Baronet to salty in Manchester,
2:50:04
New Hampshire 333 early Merry
Christmas to you and the
2:50:10
producers and listeners the best
podcast in the universe may the
2:50:12
Lord's face face face shine upon
you all love Baronet to salty of
2:50:21
Manchester. I was I had trouble
pronouncing the word borrowers.
2:50:29
Adam Curry: I heard that you
went Baba Wawa vers Raza
2:50:33
John C Dvorak: was weird funny
to get into a loop where I
2:50:37
couldn't say it and it was like
I'm concerned now that I
2:50:40
couldn't say borrow words. I
kept trying to put it as to one
2:50:45
borrower. I couldn't do it. And
it was just like, very annoying.
2:50:49
I'm wondering if that's a bad
thing. Well, I
2:50:51
Adam Curry: was thinking, Trojan
2:50:56
John C Dvorak: that's what
triggered my beat. 12 Thomas
2:50:59
Adam Curry: Perez is in
Minnetonka, Minnesota 333 This
2:51:03
is a switcheroo birthday
donation from my little bro
2:51:06
Henry. Happy Birthday buddy.
Couldn't let you stay a
2:51:09
douchebag for another year. D
Duchenne biscuit please.
2:51:13
Unknown: You've been de Deus.
They always give me my birthday.
2:51:19
John C Dvorak: All right.
Indeed. No agenda meet up once
2:51:21
again from Greenwood Indiana.
Switch another switcheroo raffle
2:51:25
them a big raffle. This is for
Sir Brian with an eye as opposed
2:51:32
to what grew up in India. It was
nice to see familiar faces and
2:51:36
make new friends but when I
returned to Texas, the doctors
2:51:39
could not determine how I
contracted RSV but thankfully I
2:51:44
listen to no agenda show so the
mystery is the mystery has been
2:51:48
solved. And thanks Emily. It's
been a fun two weeks on the germ
2:51:53
barge. This calls for an Obama
you might die in the morning.
2:52:01
Adam Curry: You might die in the
morning you might die don't have
2:52:05
the in the morning handy. But
yeah, you might die Sir Brian
2:52:09
with an eye versus her Brian
with a why. Another switcheroo
2:52:13
from the indie and a meet up.
This is the from the raffle
2:52:17
donation. This is for Sir Nick
dragon of the four domains. And
2:52:22
he asked actually this was a
good one. He said could you
2:52:25
please play the jingle John's
gonna hum the Sunday Times and
2:52:30
throw in a chef's on whoo I had
to look for it. But yes. John's
2:52:35
gonna Hama Sunday Yeah, classic
have not heard that. So
2:52:44
John C Dvorak: long ago, long,
long time. They had a
2:52:47
subscription to The New York
Times. And you use the helmet.
2:52:51
And white ever hummed it by
plays. I talked about some of
2:52:54
the headlines. It was just
turned out to be a dog of a
2:52:56
segment. Lavender blossoms are
buddies in Northfield,
2:52:59
Northville Michigan, I think is
lavender blossoms.com.org.org.
2:53:05
Okay, pick up a gift for that
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2:53:20
No, it doesn't get you high.
Special Thanks and happy
2:53:24
birthday to all. Oh,
2:53:26
Adam Curry: thank you much. I'm
just getting the next couple of
2:53:30
notes already here for some
reason that PDF wasn't sent but
2:53:33
a picture. Oh, then we get 285
from the Brooklyn drinking club
2:53:38
club meet up. And it's their
donation credit to individual
2:53:42
donors by their own accounting.
Okay, well, I love that they're
2:53:45
from Brooklyn, New York. And so
they will. They will they will
2:53:49
keep their own accounting for
that good work.
2:53:52
John C Dvorak: Chris kharsia in
San Jose California. tu tu tu tu
2:53:58
tu it's my Keeper's birthday on
December 14 And I want to give
2:54:03
her an executive title. No.
exact title for her please.
2:54:07
Okay, that's a switcheroo. It
should be noted. Yeah, we don't
2:54:10
have her name. Well,
2:54:12
Adam Curry: she'll become Dame
ie of the Treasure Valley. Let's
2:54:16
John C Dvorak: put her there for
the switcheroo. Okay, well so I
2:54:19
want to have her okay Dame
nights credit so she can become
2:54:23
debt Okay. Dame of the Treasure
Valley. With all my love to you
2:54:28
my Viking beauty.
2:54:31
Adam Curry: Eli the coffee guys
in Bensenville Illinois.
2:54:36
Palindrome 21212 attached note
Merry Christmas gentlemen. First
2:54:41
of all, I want to give a shout
out to Trevor in Colorado for
2:54:43
hitting me in the mouth and call
him out as a douchebag. I'm
2:54:46
thankful for both of you and
appreciate the hard work and
2:54:49
dedication which goes into
delivering a quality product
2:54:51
twice a week. I've been
listening to this since 2018.
2:54:54
I'm happy to say I'm no longer
douchebag is my wife and
2:54:57
business partner sometimes
points out She just calls you a
2:55:02
douchebag just in general. I'm
finally in a position to start
2:55:05
returning value after taking a
vow of poverty start my own
2:55:08
business. In 2021. My wife Jen
and I launched gigawatt Coffee
2:55:12
Roasters two weeks before the
world shut down a timing is
2:55:15
everything in business. Needless
to say, it's been a wild ride.
2:55:19
No agenda has kept me company
during the long hours, early
2:55:22
mornings and late nights that go
along with the startup. I'm
2:55:25
thankful for the whole na
community and would like to
2:55:27
offer a 20% discount to all
producers go to gigawatt coffee.
2:55:31
roasters.com use code ITM 20 For
your first order to pick up a
2:55:36
great bag of fresh air roasted
coffee for under 10 bucks. Stay
2:55:40
safe. No jingles no karma, just
good vibes blessings, and warm
2:55:44
holiday wishes for the whole na
family. Stay caffeinated. All
2:55:48
right. He
2:55:49
John C Dvorak: sent me a bunch
of the coffee.
2:55:51
Adam Curry: How was it? I was
gonna ask? Well, I
2:55:53
John C Dvorak: just got it. So
like yesterday, so I like to try
2:55:56
some. He's got he's got a couple
of things you should know. He's
2:56:01
got a lot of variety of coffees
especially as single source
2:56:04
stuff. He's got some weird
coffees that he's developed and
2:56:06
also some cans of coffee drinks
that he's developed him in CES
2:56:12
who's his wife, Jen, Jen was his
partner. And I would say in
2:56:18
terms of the packaging of the of
the cans and the beans
2:56:22
themselves. Top drawer I don't
know who he hired to do the
2:56:26
packaging and the style of
marketing for the packaging
2:56:29
themselves. He's got to he's got
barrel aged coffees, artists and
2:56:33
he's got every small batch
millennial and Gen Z Zinger on
2:56:37
their beautiful small batch.
Small batch everything small
2:56:42
batch. It's just it's absolutely
top drawer and I the coffee I've
2:56:47
had so far which is the disagree
barrel aged coffee from Sumatra.
2:56:52
I like it, but I want to try
some of the other ones and see
2:56:55
what he's got going on. I'll
have a report in about a month
2:56:58
after I go through some of these
coffees. Okay. Anyway, thanks
2:57:02
for the coffee. Groovy.
2:57:03
Adam Curry: Thank you, Eli the
coffee guy. ITM 20 code at
2:57:06
checkout.
2:57:08
John C Dvorak: Sir Salah Hauser
in Melbourne, Florida is up on
2:57:11
the list. And he says and he
came up with 200 even. And he
2:57:16
says all i want for Christmas is
no exit strategy. Sorry gents.
2:57:21
Love you guys mean it's or Salah
hunter of the 321 I think you
2:57:25
should do the next one. It's
your ad. Linda Lubetkin. In
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Let's vote for John.
2:57:55
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Here it is. Sir Berzerker. We
2:58:01
have not heard from since
January of 2021. But he comes in
2:58:04
with an Associate Executive
Producer ship at $200. His note
2:58:07
is as follows. Ditch the jeering
tone Adam, get back to analysis
2:58:13
Adam show has been weak since
you got sucked into the
2:58:17
Fredericksburg ladies chap no
one cares about I can't
2:58:20
recommend this show to anyone
due to the amount of whining and
2:58:24
lack of insight, sir Berzerker.
2:58:28
John C Dvorak: But he told you
2:58:30
Adam Curry: this, this actually
hurt my feelings. It did. Good.
2:58:35
Because I
2:58:36
John C Dvorak: don't understand
why a $200 donation could have
2:58:39
been higher. No,
2:58:41
Adam Curry: I was like ditch the
jeering tone. What is that? What
2:58:43
is jeering tone? I don't
understand. He wants me to
2:58:46
correct something but he's not
helping me with any instrumental
2:58:49
you
2:58:49
John C Dvorak: have to actually
have a specific if you're gonna
2:58:52
do that, because I don't know
what he's talking about.
2:58:54
Adam Curry: No. And he's like,
since you got sucked into the
2:58:58
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about the ladies club or your DS
2:59:00
talking about you're talking
about the models or these moms
2:59:03
for liberties
2:59:03
Adam Curry: for liberty, which I
think is boots on the ground. I
2:59:07
don't understand now that he
can't recommend the show to
2:59:10
anyone due to the amount of
whining what whining and lack of
2:59:13
insight. I mean, that's just
what I don't know but it hurt my
2:59:18
feelings.
2:59:19
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well, I
mean, I I feel that I like I
2:59:25
condemned this note
2:59:29
Adam Curry: we've we've been
kind of the same for 16 years.
2:59:33
Yeah, yes we fluctuate we
there's ups and downs with
2:59:36
everything but I just I just
don't understand it. Understand
2:59:40
it.
2:59:42
John C Dvorak: And here we go
again, Indy, no agenda motive in
2:59:44
Greenwood, Indiana. $200. No
jingles, no karma. Luckily,
2:59:48
switcheroo raffle. How many
raffles do they do donation from
2:59:51
the river for my call. Mike
Paul. You know there's a note
2:59:57
missing There's something
something we're doing with one
3:00:02
of our old donors. Producers. My
crotch is the I guess he's do
3:00:10
some PhD but he sent some notes
and it was confusing to Jay. And
3:00:13
she said, there's this guy who
keeps sending notes and about I
3:00:16
don't I have no record of his
notes is because it comes into
3:00:20
some other name. I'm guessing
she says Michael, I guess a
3:00:22
Michael crotch a crotch. I said,
You mean my cry my crotch? Yeah,
3:00:27
we didn't get it. And then she
cracks up. And she can't talk to
3:00:32
me for about an hour. Really?
Wow. Because it's so funny. It's
3:00:38
one of those jokes. You know, my
crotch? Yeah, my mic. You gotta
3:00:43
you got one.
3:00:45
Adam Curry: You got you got a
good job. Seymour
3:00:47
John C Dvorak: butts you can
you'll get the same approach
3:00:49
work on Mandroid work. All
right, that would be our last
3:00:54
Associate Executive
3:00:55
Adam Curry: now. And other
trolls are really hurting my
3:00:57
feelings. Like you were more
funny when you were stoned.
3:01:02
John C Dvorak: That's not true.
I'm a Mimi, who what used to
3:01:04
produce comedy knows that I
3:01:07
Adam Curry: thank you. Yes,
she's
3:01:09
John C Dvorak: an actual expert
3:01:10
Adam Curry: that Wow. Now Now I
feel much better all of a
3:01:13
sudden. Wow, that's great. He's
3:01:14
John C Dvorak: the expert. Not
some blame. Oh, that's in the
3:01:17
chat room. Troll. Troll. Troll.
Lame o troll.
3:01:23
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to our executive and Associate
3:01:25
Executive producers we really
appreciate especially the indie,
3:01:30
raffle winners, who also all got
to take home a prize in addition
3:01:33
to the to their executive or
Associate Executive Producer
3:01:38
ship and he had like a no agenda
license plate. There was a
3:01:42
signed copy of too many eggs,
the book too many eggs.com. I'm
3:01:45
just saying I mean this this was
a great way to do it. And all
3:01:48
consolidated we thank you so
much, Mark and Maria for sending
3:01:51
that all through. And of course,
we always want to thank people
3:01:54
come in under $50 For reasons of
anonymity. And if you're on a
3:01:58
sustaining donation, thank you.
If not, please consider one at
3:02:02
DeVore act.org/na or no agenda.
donations.com. John is going to
3:02:06
take us through the 50s right
now. We'd like to thank them as
3:02:08
well. Yeah.
3:02:10
John C Dvorak: Starting with
Monica, assignee for Gursky,
3:02:15
Sandy for Gursky in Rego Park,
New York 155 33 jobs karma for
3:02:21
her after the we get to the end,
sir Fetta. Net have a cheesy
3:02:27
name and Thomas Berg, Ontario
140 98 Jeffrey bents in Denver,
3:02:36
Pennsylvania 123 21 Second of
nine to knighthood, Mark
3:02:46
Adam Curry: Baylor Veldt
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John C Dvorak: Baylor Velda K by
Livia by live out in Haddam,
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Connecticut 100. And he's got
something to say. He says dunk,
3:02:58
Connecticut. He must be a
Dutchman. And Chris kharsia
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wants to get in Boise Idaho, a
100. And this is a note you
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probably should read because I
think as you becoming a night
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well note he says Jenny
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Adam Curry: Jensen is my keepers
name and her birthday is
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December 14 Our ie of the
Treasure Valley not enough room
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to complete common via Pay Pal.
We've been donating 3333 per
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month since September 20. Border
for the roundtable. April
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skivers April skivers with
powdered sugar and lingonberry
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jam, I know the lingonberry jam.
So that was who we had earlier.
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And so I guess they completed
everything. So she's going to be
3:03:43
a dame now. So this is good
news. I'm going to end I have
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the lingonberry for you,
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John C Dvorak: Eric, in Casper,
Wyoming. Oh, that's the other
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thing I wanted to mention. When
I did the thing about process.
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Somebody sent a note that went
to Jay's spam box saying they
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didn't want to be mentioned. I
don't know if it's on this list
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or not. I don't think so. Maybe
the last show. I didn't want to
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be mentioned on the on the I was
a donor I didn't want to be
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mentioned I want to be
anonymous. So I did went to the
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spam box. And then the kicker is
they donated $50 If they had
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donated 4999 They would
automatically automatically be
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anonymized us right. Okay,
anyway, just just mentioned that
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Eric in Casper, Wyoming came
with 100 bucks. He needs a D
3:04:33
douching. D deuced. Patricia
Lewis and Merced California, got
3:04:41
a birthday call out for her
grandson, and he needs a de
3:04:44
douche. Van De deuced. There we
get to Kevin McLaughlin in
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Concord, North Carolina. He's
the Archduke Aluna lover of
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American moves. 808 And he says
boobs they see all they know all
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right. The Windy Brannon in
Saginaw, Michigan 75. TJ of the
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side I 75 And there's a birthday
call out coming up. Kevin
3:05:10
McLaughlin is back with 606 with
the comment. Boobs are like a
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fine wine they get better with
age. Serve as bash that's
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interesting, sir BNA in
Nashville, Tennessee 5993
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Christopher Dexter and 5678
Scott mingle mingle in Exton,
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Pennsylvania. 55 Michael Jarrett
in mutt Ville, Connecticut, to
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do 52 And he's a de douching. De
deuced. If Joe Biden which we
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don't do, Eric Hof in Edmonton,
Alberta 51 Edward Bolla in
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Dublin, Ireland 5049 And as a
birthday call out, sir tech
3:06:04
wizard in Blacksburg, Virginia.
5033 is another birthday coming
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up. And now we go to the 50s
name and location John spade and
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Edmond Oklahoma, Cory Cunningham
in Warrenton, Virginia. Tim
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Delvecchio and blend in
Pennsylvania, Andrew Grasso and
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Mineola New York Gary Mau in
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Stephen in in Bucks elder South
Dakota, Paul best in Horsham
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West Sussex, UK use karma for
douchebags Brennan's of y in
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Port orchard, Washington, Jared
Jared, you're in Nashville
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Tennessee. Real deals now in San
Antonio, Texas. Dame Patricia
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Worthington in Miami, Florida. I
think Miami Beach even Sarah
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whip in Atlanta, Georgia, and
she has
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Adam Curry: a mega douche for
Brian Lee who introduced her to
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no agenda but has not been
donating so douchebag
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John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin deals
in $100 Ville, North Carolina
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Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
Texas. Diane Shawanda Beck in
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johnsburg, Illinois, Sara Landis
in drum right, Oklahoma and last
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on least last on the list. Is
Baron Allen been in Beaverton
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Oregon want to thank these folks
for making this show? By the
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way, Sarah's got a birthday
caller we got you covered. Yes,
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Adam Curry: yeah, well, it's
it's a birthday call out for her
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Oh, and a D douching. Yeah, for
husband Judd and a D douching.
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And she wanted to go
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John C Dvorak: so these are the
folks who helped make show 1616
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Even though I don't see any 1616
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Adam Curry: again, we appreciate
everyone who came in under that.
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And the sustaining donations are
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go out for yet people in the
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Adam Curry: we love celebrating
birthdays with our producers out
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there and get mo nation gris
Garcia Garcia wishes his
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keyboard Jenny Jensen, a very
happy one celebrating today
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Edward Faber also celebrating
today sir tech wizard turns 33
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Tomorrow, Patricia Lewis wishes
her grandson Jackson. A very
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happy one he'll be turning 15 on
the 18th Sarah Landis wishing
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her amazing husband just
Atlanta's Happy Birthday. He's
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turning 48 Today I guess TJ of
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happy birthday. We say happy
birthday from everybody here the
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best podcast in the universe.
Man it's short today. We only
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have one Damon one night. So
here is the short blade but you
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can do you have your blade?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, got it
right here. Ready?
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Adam Curry: That's a pretty one.
Up on the podium Jenny Jensen
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and Rick Shuguang Both of us for
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you've never been to one you're
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quick meet up report from beach
girl who had not no audio
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reports today. It was at the
Higginbotham Connecticut truck
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bar ugly sweater party meet up
report. Send us a great picture.
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Everyone had an ugly Christmas
sweater on. And she says it was
3:11:39
fantastic. We had 17 attendees
including some new faces. It was
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a beautiful December day. 50 or
so degrees in Connecticut felt
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more like fall. Most of us were
festive or an ugly Christmas
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sweater. The pizza provided by
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can drinks and conversation
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minded people and we could all
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Can't wait for the next meetup.
Adam and John Merry Christmas.
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Thank you for your courage. Hope
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meetup enjoyed it very much
beach girl thank you so much.
3:12:13
Today there is a meetup taking
place at the Mile High meetup
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Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado we'll be kicking off at
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630 and on Saturday it's
important you hear this if
3:12:24
you're in Texas, it's the first
northwest Houston meat shoot.
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That's always fun man. Go shoot
some guns with a whole bunch of
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people. When you when you get no
agenda people no agenda
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producers at a at a meat shoot.
They bring crazy guns and
3:12:39
they'll let you shoot them to
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all kinds of nutty firearms. So
if you're into that or if you've
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never, never shot a gun in your
life, they will safely help you
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do that. And this is the Saddle
River Range at noon and Conroe
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Texas and Sir Economic Hitman is
organizing that in New
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Hampshire. You can meet at 1230
on Saturday at the community
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oven in Epping, New Hampshire
for the meetup on Saturday, the
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ITM Richmond meetup at 1230 at
glass Chester Brewing Company in
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Gloucester, Virginia. Fort Worth
has the freeze peach meet up at
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one o'clock at Flipz Patio Grill
that's in Fort Worth, Texas. The
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shrunken Amiga support group
Cincinnati meets at two o'clock
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a task group corium on Saturday
in Cincinnati, Ohio. Man there's
3:13:25
a lot here, the overturning
tables and chasing out the money
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changes Christmas party. It
won't be at the local tap and
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Lansdale, Pennsylvania on
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hosts out at the proud bird 333
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meeting at 333 A Dempsey's in
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London London Hello London four
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o'clock GMT time Camden beer
hall London UK make sure you go
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check out Greg is organizing
that on Saturday and finally the
3:13:59
next show day is Sunday we have
two meetups taking place them
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the SX M salt and soda water
meet up 330 at Fat Tony
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Smokehouse in St. St. Maarten
St. Martin Sint Maarten St.
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Martin? The island I guess. And
also on Sunday, the final one
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long views lively laugh loaded
mid month monthly meet up 333 At
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rotos pizzeria Longview, Texas
go Texas. Three meetups coming
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up in the next couple of days.
There's a lot more to see and a
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lot more to experience at no
agenda. meetups.com you can find
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meetups anywhere in the world
almost. They're taking place all
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the time. If you miss one, don't
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minded people. You can wear your
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ugly sweater you can hang out
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You will be surprised at the
cool people you meet and you're
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find one near you start one
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3:15:00
Unknown: With the Dyson days,
you won't be triggered. You will
3:15:11
be buddy feels the same
3:15:15
Adam Curry: is like a pot. Like
a party, like a party like a
3:15:19
party, you got to meet ISOs you
got ISOs?
3:15:23
John C Dvorak: I do, but I want
to read something first. Okay.
3:15:26
So, Patricia Lewis wrote in card
and she says, I just want to
3:15:33
mention this, I think we deduced
her grandson, J. Jackson, she
3:15:39
says sent you comment on my
lovely handwriting each time I
3:15:42
send a donation. You can
attribute to find penmanship to
3:15:48
the tutelage of the Sisters of
Mercy. Of to Lemoore Ireland.
3:15:53
Oh, they
3:15:53
Adam Curry: wrapped her knuckles
with a ruler. That's
3:15:56
John C Dvorak: what I'm thinking
she has the almost exact same
3:15:58
handwriting as Tina, but I think
that I don't want to insult
3:16:03
Patricia. But I think Tina is is
actually even more fine. And now
3:16:09
we need to know how Tina learned
to write like that. Was she in a
3:16:16
Catholic school where they beat
her?
3:16:19
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
But she is a perfectionist. And
3:16:24
she always wants to be very good
at school for a whole bunch of
3:16:28
reasons. Oh, well, she's one of
those she would do her homework
3:16:31
and but that that handwriting, I
know. I'm like, Hey, babe, can
3:16:35
you write out that check for the
for the pool guy. It's like, why
3:16:38
can't you write us if Come on?
Are you kidding me? Like you're
3:16:41
given the guy a piece of art.
And he's like, Oh, I don't even
3:16:44
want to cash this check. It's so
beautiful. That's how beautiful
3:16:48
it is. I will ask her though. I
think
3:16:51
John C Dvorak: she just I will
put a I will ask for both
3:16:55
ladies. Yes. Right. I'm gonna
give him something to write out.
3:16:59
I'm gonna write out my put in a
newsletter and we can do a test.
3:17:02
Oh, it's a write off. Right off
the shoulder.
3:17:07
Adam Curry: Andrew writing
showdown. Okay, yeah, she'll be
3:17:10
happy to send that to you. I
will. I will remind the whatever
3:17:13
she needs to do you let me know.
We'll send it off.
3:17:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
will happen tomorrow, but it
3:17:17
will help out please.
3:17:18
Adam Curry: You got me all
excited. All right. What are
3:17:21
your ISOs I have to Okay.
3:17:25
John C Dvorak: Let's see. What
are they? Let's start with
3:17:30
congrats. Congratulations. Oh,
3:17:33
Adam Curry: nice. I like it. I
like it. I like it. It's,
3:17:36
John C Dvorak: it's to the
point. It's crisp, crisp and
3:17:39
think about that.
3:17:40
Adam Curry: And I want you to
think about that. Yeah, yes.
3:17:44
Okay. Let me see what I have.
Check your barn door that one I
3:17:52
have you need to get out more.
3:17:55
John C Dvorak: You send that one
to me.
3:17:57
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. diddly doo.
model and then this has been a
3:18:02
lot of fun that we should stay
in touch.
3:18:05
Unknown: Kind of like that one.
3:18:09
Adam Curry: Only like Well,
3:18:12
John C Dvorak: to be honest
about it. The last one I do like
3:18:15
it too but it's a little long.
Especially when you have it
3:18:17
sitting just because congrats
but think about that. He might
3:18:20
tour short and sweet.
3:18:26
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an
executive decision.
3:18:28
Congratulations. Yeah, that's
cute. I like congratulation we
3:18:31
just keep it a congratulate
that's very for Google.
3:18:36
Unknown: It's time
3:18:37
Adam Curry: JC once again I'm
Mimi works very hard all week
3:18:41
when she's not working at the
candle. When she's not working
3:18:44
with J at the publishing
company. She is out there. Just
3:18:47
digging around for good news.
She has so much that John has
3:18:51
Dell used under good news what
is your this
3:18:53
John C Dvorak: one I cut down
because they're all local from
3:18:56
local stations from Utah too
long and they run too long. They
3:18:59
run two and a half three minutes
sometimes for two I cut this one
3:19:03
down it was a tube something
this guy could have done if some
3:19:06
58 seconds but this is about and
I believe local news channels
3:19:10
all have these stories. This is
a 16 year old. Fit 16 Amazing of
3:19:18
fit 16 year old who's pumping
iron and has a heart just stops
3:19:24
Unknown: a cash counting team is
recovering at Primary Children's
3:19:27
Hospital after his heart stopped
while lifting weights at
3:19:30
school. Witnesses say a trainer
at that school jumped into
3:19:34
action there saved his life new
special Shara Park joins us live
3:19:37
from the hospital tonight.
Shara. How's Dean Phillips doing
3:19:40
this evening.
3:19:42
Mike and dini. As you can
imagine, it has been a very
3:19:44
difficult and emotional 24 hours
for 16 year old Dean Phillips,
3:19:48
with permission from the family
close family friend tells us
3:19:52
that he was in and out of
sedation and intubation while he
3:19:56
was in ICU and every try every
time they tried to bring him out
3:19:59
of that He was agitated and
incoherent. But then today, a
3:20:03
major step in his recovery, they
were able to bring him out of
3:20:06
sedation, and he was able to
talk with his parents and start
3:20:09
asking them questions about what
happened. Now Dean's heart
3:20:13
stopped yesterday afternoon
while lifting weights with his
3:20:16
friends at Skyview High School
in Smithfield, grateful
3:20:19
to have quick access to the
right people and the right
3:20:21
resources. Sure, thanks.
3:20:23
Adam Curry: That's not good
news. That kid has an evacs
3:20:25
injury or something. This is not
good news to
3:20:28
John C Dvorak: x injury to
houses that happened to make an
3:20:31
assumption like that.
3:20:34
Unknown: A good news story from
JC de had the vibes for you and
3:20:40
me and we all feel better now
he's done his bit. To the back
3:20:46
to reality. That's turning to
shit.
3:20:48
Adam Curry: That's good news. At
the end of every single no
3:20:51
agenda show. We are long today,
everybody, but we gave you a lot
3:20:54
of deconstruction. I hope you
enjoyed it. Because one day,
3:20:59
it's all going to end and you'll
have you'll be stuck with one
3:21:03
news AI.
3:21:06
John C Dvorak: Channel one,
3:21:07
Adam Curry: that's Channel One
News, AI. That's all you're
3:21:09
gonna have. So get ready for
those days just says come in.
3:21:14
That's Oh, it's definitely
coming. But you know, we could
3:21:18
just sit at home collect checks,
and the AI just looks at every
3:21:21
story and goes, Oh, I know how
to do this. They would be very
3:21:25
funny. But we'll start with you.
Coming up next on no agenda
3:21:32
stream.com We have mere mortals
which is our buddy Kyron from
3:21:36
Down Under. It's a book review.
How would aliens wage war chyron
3:21:42
I love you chyron. In your show
makes his Fletcher Steve Jones
3:21:47
and Matty J. And I am coming to
you from the heart of the Texas
3:21:50
Hill Country and I say in the
morning to you. I'm Adam curry,
3:21:55
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're
3:21:58
going to have some rain this
weekend. Yay for us. I'm John C.
3:22:01
Dvorak.
3:22:02
Adam Curry: We've gotten rain
and it's cold yay for us here.
3:22:06
Remember us the divorce
act.org/na Looking forward to
3:22:09
seeing you all on Sunday till
then adios Mufasa Hui noise Hey
3:22:18
John C Dvorak: once it was
reluctantly around it was hard
3:22:21
to get it aroused and it is hard
to get an arrest but we got
3:22:28
everywhere else around the
country is doing this together
3:22:31
dress just keep it up get it
wrapped together it's going to
3:22:41
be engendered now is to get into
a house I'll give you the gist
3:22:48
of it quick get some white stuff
somebody helped me out here all
3:22:52
cash baby stay calm the guys
because they wouldn't even say
3:23:05
going even
3:23:15
Unknown: bigger apps scorpion is
made in total. They were asked
3:23:23
to change it and he wouldn't do
that.
3:23:27
John C Dvorak: This is a crisis.
This is all amateur hour. This
3:23:31
is all stuff done in the
controller or done by somebody
3:23:34
who's not a good guy and done on
purpose. As
3:23:37
Unknown: stupid have we been?
3:23:39
Of course people got all kinds
of fun clips. How stupid have we
3:23:43
been people making songs from
that
3:23:46
if you have social media that is
dominated by algorithms that
3:23:54
pull people down these rabbit
holes rabbit holes, rabbit
3:23:59
holes, rabbit holes, these
algorithms they are the digital
3:24:04
equivalent of AR fifteens they
ought to be banned but when
3:24:11
these when people are pulled
down these rabbit holes, rabbit
3:24:15
holes, you know what's at the
bottom of the rabbit hole rabbit
3:24:27
quiet to ask what's up
3:24:37
John C Dvorak: artificial
insanity
3:24:44
Unknown: I just signed another
$200 million drawdown to the
3:24:49
Department of Defense for
Ukraine. Thank you. Thank you
3:25:09
We're gonna bring in Isabella
surgical to Melbourne where
3:25:12
researchers they may have found
a possible cure for COVID 19.
3:25:16
Using a treatment that is cheap
and available to everyone is a
3:25:19
so what is it? Well, it's a
headless treatment. It's called
3:25:23
ivermectin and attendees.
3:25:27
Know what this is. This is
ivermectin for humans to win a
3:25:30
Nobel Prizes anti feral. See
this Fauci see this Bill Gates.
3:25:33
I'm gonna kill those prions You
bastard murderers in him with a
3:25:36
bio weapons monster. You want to
suppress me want to kill the son
3:25:40
of a bitch, you goddamn demon.
He's like, I'm easy to kill. And
3:25:44
I sure wish you'd wake up
3:25:46
in a petri dish. This can kill
two cells and cause 19 Joe
3:25:52
Rogan kicks your murder and as
to you'd love to bury him to
3:25:54
your little monster magnet. He's
in this National Geographic
3:25:57
piece about oh, I don't usually
deal with my enemies right away.
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I get them later. You creep up
on with a poison injections,
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dressed up in a lab coat little
Josef Mengele, Nuremberg Code
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violating monster get damn
monster
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