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Unknown: Take her up.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
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media assassination episode
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Unknown: is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: anarchy on the
airwaves and we're broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here. FEMA reached
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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I've
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noticed Megyn Kelly has ozempic
face. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
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Hill.
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Adam Curry: You You notice that
after I told you she had that?
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Come on? Yeah, man.
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John C Dvorak: After you told me
I didn't get I was lucky. I
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wasn't. What can I say? Took me
a wild. One view is oh my god,
0:52
this is not good. Yeah,
0:53
Adam Curry: I told you. I told
you.
0:56
John C Dvorak: I am indebted to
your accuracy.
1:00
Adam Curry: Well, since you
since you brought it up right
1:03
away. I think we need to look at
the script. Because they're
1:07
unhinged and out of control. The
house people, the United States
1:14
media apparatus is controlled by
big pharma, and they do not have
1:20
your best interests at heart.
Please believe me when I say
1:25
this, ah, they Okay, so remember
Sanjay Gupta from CNN, what I
1:34
had on the last show where he
was reading the script, and it
1:37
was like, the
1:38
John C Dvorak: guy that that
Rogen chewed out on his show on
1:41
a horse paste.
1:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So,
you know, ivermectin. Oh, that's
1:46
horse pace. What are you doing
now, if you're using the generic
1:51
because that's what geo
semaglutide is. It's generic
1:55
GLP. One.
1:56
John C Dvorak: This is just a
cheap peptide anyone can get if
1:59
you're
1:59
Adam Curry: using this and
you're getting it from a
2:02
pharmacy that does compounding
which Big Pharma has hated
2:05
forever. You are now poisoning
yourself this. Sanjay Gupta said
2:11
on the last show, we had his
script he rolled it out. There's
2:15
a 15 100% increase in people
overdosing on GLP one drugs, but
2:23
it's not ozempic. And we'll go V
No, they have dials that show
2:28
you so you can't overdose. No.
It's people using not just
2:33
compounded versions, not just
generic versions. Oh, no. We're
2:39
improving the script. We're
calling them knock offs. Yes,
2:43
Abc New York
2:44
Unknown: fact that was a totally
new reporting on all these
2:46
weight loss drugs that we've
been hearing about. It's hard to
2:49
keep tabs on what's going on
with which ones everyday but
2:52
this new reporting talks about
the poison control centers
2:54
across the United States.
They're now reporting an uptick
2:57
in calls related to accidental
overdoses of some magnitude.
3:01
That's the injection medication
used for diabetes and weight
3:04
loss. They've become so popular
with these names like ozempic
3:07
and Wigo. V. Yeah,
3:08
so from January through
November, poison centers
3:11
reported nearly 3000 calls
involving semaglutide. And that
3:15
is more than a 15 fold increase
since 2019. Poison Control
3:19
Centers say that they believe
that dosing issues involve
3:23
knockoff or compounded versions
of the drug and that is behind
3:27
many of the calls
3:29
Adam Curry: knock offs knock
offs. This is outrageous
3:33
language.
3:35
John C Dvorak: Well let's let's
stop there.
3:36
Adam Curry: I have a couple more
so I guess we're pausing guys
3:39
John C Dvorak: want to go to the
term knockoff, which stems from
3:41
the fashion industry? Oh, yes.
And in the fashion industry,
3:46
because there's no copyright on
on dress designs. A couture guy,
3:52
some guy making fancy dresses
are gonna go out and showed off
3:55
the current styles and then the
cheap guys will not do knock
3:59
offs. She implies a cheap copy,
copy. That's not the same.
4:08
Adam Curry: Ah, you know, the
only thing that is patented for
4:12
these drugs certainly for
ozempic is the dial is the
4:15
dosage dial. That's their
patent. Did the semaglutide is
4:20
out of patent. It's a bit I
don't know if it's, if you can,
4:23
if you they can read patented.
It's been around, but they've
4:26
repackaged it I'm sure they put
some other magic potions in
4:29
there. Let's have a listen here
to Good Morning America since
4:35
2019.
4:35
Unknown: The percentage of
patients receiving a semaglutide
4:38
prescription has increased well
over 900%. A surge led largely
4:43
by their patients lose weight,
but more patients means more
4:48
accidents and Miss applications,
particularly with injecting
4:51
improper doses. Charles
McPherson has been taking those
4:55
epics since April to manage his
diabetes but says he initially
4:59
took the wrong
5:00
Adam Curry: dosage? Oh, no,
5:01
Unknown: I didn't feel well had
the flu or I didn't feel well,
5:07
you'll well for a couple of
days. So I want to
5:10
John C Dvorak: stop for a
second. How to heat it up? Are
5:13
you injecting yourself with this
stuff? Yeah, there's no
5:17
instructions were how do you
take the wrong dosage of
5:21
something like this was an
injectable and only get once a
5:24
week
5:25
Adam Curry: they're going to
insinuate that people are
5:27
morons, people are idiots, and
certainly the idiots who get you
5:32
know, just plain old GLP one
drugs from a compounding
5:36
pharmacy. You're idiots. You're
morons, you don't know what
5:39
you're doing? Don't worry, we're
getting to it all. It's
5:41
important that you take note of
the horrible side effects of
5:45
overdosing and
5:45
Unknown: feel well, it's like I
had the flu or something. I
5:49
still didn't feel well for a
couple of days. So I went into
5:52
the emergency room.
5:54
And with those major brand
names, so highly sought after
5:57
many people are turning to
imitation or compounded
6:00
imitation. That's where he saw
those errors. manufactured
6:07
product comes in a pen that has
prefilled doses, it's less
6:12
likely for patients to give the
wrong dose. Whereas a lot of the
6:15
compounded formulations. They're
dispensed in vials with needles
6:19
and syringes, and it's up to the
patients to draw out the correct
6:22
amount of medication to
administer to themselves.
6:25
Adam Curry: Yes, oh, we can't
leave that up to those people.
6:28
People have been injecting
themselves with drugs for
6:30
centuries, probably. Well, not
centuries for decades. CBS
6:35
though has a different slant on
it. They're gonna take it
6:38
somewhere that we couldn't even
even take it with COVID
6:41
vaccines.
6:42
Unknown: The FDA has issued a
new warning about some of the
6:45
popular Diabetes drugs being
used for weight loss. The agency
6:49
says it has quote received
adverse event reports. Patients
6:53
use Oh compound.
6:55
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, did
they check the various database
6:58
now all of a sudden because they
have adverse event reports? Oh,
7:02
goodness, I thought you never
looked at that. I thought it
7:04
wasn't reliable.
7:06
Unknown: semaglutide. That's the
generic name for medications
7:10
like ozempic and Wigo V. People
tend to purchase compounded or
7:15
off brand versions online or
when freshers run out. The FDA
7:19
says this often happens when
certain medications like those
7:21
weight loss drugs are in high
demand.
7:26
Adam Curry: Thanks for the
commentary. So this, this last
7:30
news clip, I'm going to include
the whole script because these
7:34
two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies
did a great I mean, bonus for
7:39
you ladies bonus bonus bonus.
Because there's two parts of the
7:43
script one is that we have a 15
fold increase in people
7:49
overdosing. And that is of
course because of the knockoffs
7:52
imitation the compounded Lemo
non special cartridge dial
7:58
versions. The second part of the
script is and they all had the
8:04
same script is what you feel
like when you've overdosed on
8:09
your fake knockoff version. The
symptoms of overdosing are
8:18
exactly the same as the side
effects that you can possibly
8:23
have. Nausea, vomiting,
vomiting, diarrhea, slow colon
8:31
action. from Mattel. They are
the exact they are exactly the
8:37
same. So part of the script is
to say, and I think they're
8:42
doing this to move people's
focus away from the side effects
8:48
which suck ask Sharon Osbourne
you know, I wish we could ask
8:51
Megan Kelly, she'll never ask me
back on again. When she did I'd
8:54
say hey, well, you pooping your
guts out during this thing?
8:56
Yeah.
8:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, geez, you
wouldn't do that. Yeah, I would
9:00
be a talker.
9:01
Adam Curry: So that's, that's
part of the expected and
9:04
possible side effects. I think
what they're now doing is that
9:09
if you have the side effects,
then they then they will call
9:12
your doctor of course you say
hey, I you know, am I overdose
9:16
we should probably lower your
dose or whatever. They're trying
9:18
to minimize the actual side
effects by calling them effects
9:24
of overdosing or taking too
much. Listen to these two ladies
9:29
from NBC Arizona. They did a
great job.
9:32
Unknown: It's believed knockoff
versions of the drugs behind
9:35
many of the calls. So let's talk
about it. Joining me now is Dr.
9:39
Soto harder with Dignity Health
Medical Group? This is
9:42
astonishing. So no, I cannot
believe the huge spike. Why are
9:46
we seeing so many overdoses? So
9:47
first of all the prescriptions
percent Prescriptions have gone
9:50
up about 900% since 2019. So we
all have some other titles very
9:56
widely used now for diabetes as
well as obesity. But here's the
9:59
other two It is actually dosing
errors is what we are noticing
10:03
in all these poisoning calls.
And number one, so the
10:06
prescription FDA approved
medication comes in a prefilled
10:10
syringe would
10:11
Adam Curry: be approved notice
this the approved medication.
10:16
approved medication
10:18
Unknown: comes in a prefilled
syringe, which is easier to use.
10:22
However, patients still have to
dial in a number, okay for the
10:26
dose. Now, if you're not
properly educated on how to do
10:29
this, you could dial in a wrong
number. For example, there was a
10:33
patient who was supposed to take
about point one milliliters of
10:37
the dose and she injected one
milliliter, which is Whoa.
10:45
Adam Curry: Like she knows,
10:47
Unknown: liters of the dose and
she
10:49
John C Dvorak: injected one
actually, the better line would
10:51
be Oh, that must be twice as
much.
10:54
Unknown: milliliters of the dose
injected one milliliter, which
10:57
is Whoa, so and these
medications hang around for one
11:02
week, when you inject them,
there is no way to these
11:05
medications, meaning you really
have to take care of the
11:08
symptoms, while the body clears
the medications. Okay.
11:12
And when you're talking about
the symptoms and the
11:13
complications, I mean, what are
we talking about here? Nausea,
11:16
vomiting GI symptoms, like
diarrhea, constipation, also
11:19
paralysis of your colon at times
in extreme cases, but very low
11:23
sugar seizures, those are some
fatigue and shaking powers.
11:29
These are some common symptoms
that patients can have a dose of
11:32
these medications
11:33
that is frightening, okay,
there's a few I mean, you just
11:36
got to wait it out and go
through all the symptoms for a
11:38
week.
11:38
So communicate with your health
provider at all times, even if
11:41
they're mild symptoms, because
you might get some guidance on
11:44
how to combat that. If you
severe symptoms, emergency room
11:48
IV fluids, something for
vomiting, something too,
11:50
obviously, and obviously
discontinuing these medications
11:53
at that point. Yeah. So pay
attention to the dosage.
11:55
Absolutely. And learn from the
providers how to actually dose
11:59
and how to take these
medications. Very important.
12:01
Okay. Excellent advice. Sonal.
Thank you. I know we're going to
12:03
talk to you in a couple of
minutes. That's
12:05
Adam Curry: right. We're gonna
do it all over again. And they
12:06
did it again. They did another
report. So everybody's on the
12:09
take. This is every one is on
the take. And I have some some
12:13
evidence to back that up. But
let's not forget America's
12:16
favorite conservative doctor
from Fox News, Doc Siegel. Oh,
12:21
he was all in on the COVID
shots. Remember him on Tucker
12:24
Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker, and
he hates marijuana. Oh, target
12:27
marijuana, no good. But this
stuff. This is the tests.
12:31
Unknown: We've been talking all
about people using ozempic for
12:35
weight loss. But many of the
users report a decrease in
12:40
anxiety and depression since
they started using batteries. He
12:44
feel better. Anxiety. That's
what they say. Doc Siegel is
12:48
going to straighten it all out
for us. He is with us right now.
12:50
Weight Loss drugs like ZMP, the
treating binge eating disorders
12:54
as well. Is this a new all
purpose class of drugs? Nothing,
12:59
you
12:59
know, stored it maybe I'll tell
you I say maybe because what we
13:02
can't prove yet is whether these
effects are the benefits of
13:06
looking down and saying Hey,
where'd my gut go, right? So you
13:10
feel better? You look better.
And maybe that decreases your
13:14
depression. But increasing
studies are showing a very
13:17
positive effect of ozempic. And
with govi and majoro on the
13:21
brain, what are they doing?
They're stabilizing neurons in
13:24
the brain. They're decreasing
that surge of dopamine that you
13:28
get right after you eat that
causes more reading. It's
13:31
addictive eating. When it when
it tastes good. You get the
13:34
hormone and this is actually
blocking it. What is ozempic do
13:37
by the way, it stops sugar
released from the liver. It
13:40
causes delayed emptying of the
gut. And and this is the key and
13:44
a big study in South Korea is
showing this it works on the
13:48
hormones in the brain. It causes
the brain hormones to change so
13:51
you don't feel hungry. And you
also don't feel anxious. This
13:55
all I'm buying this. I think
that this is this is a real
13:58
find.
13:58
Adam Curry: It's a real finding.
Yeah, Doc. It's a real finding
14:03
from a breakthrough study in
Korea. Yeah, sure. So Reuters
14:07
did a huge article on doctors
getting paid as consultants, by
14:13
the way, anyone remember the
Sacklers? I don't remember how
14:17
that went with the opioid
opioids. Everyone getting paid?
14:20
Yeah, just double the dose. So
one of the doctors according to
14:24
this report from Reuters, which
we'll just have to say, we're
14:26
gonna have to take that as fact,
who's expected who's been
14:31
accepting money from Novo
Nordisk, and by the way, you'll
14:33
hear that the script is only for
Wigo V and ozempic. But they're
14:36
not talking about as any of the
other brands, certainly not
14:39
Manjaro or deskbound. So one of
the doctors accepting the money
14:45
is Dr. Anya Juster, broth of
Yale University Center for
14:49
Weight Management. And she has
received $130,000 For as a
14:55
consultant to this company in in
Denmark. ARCU I guess needs her
15:01
services. But there's a list
this, this must be a 3000 word
15:05
article. Oh, and once you know
it, here she is on her own
15:08
little, little YouTube channel
semaglutide.
15:11
Unknown: Like other medications
that are used for obesity
15:13
treatment have to be taken long
term. Just as for any other
15:17
chronic disease, if a medication
is stopped for any reason, the
15:21
disease is no longer being
treated. So for example, if
15:26
somebody is taking a medication
for hypertension, if you stop
15:29
that antihypertensive
medication, the blood pressure
15:32
goes up and we're not surprised.
In the same way if someone is
15:36
taking medication for obesity
treatment when it is stopped,
15:39
weight gain occurs or weight
regain occurs more accurately.
15:44
Why is this? So obesity is a
chronic disease. It's a neuro
15:49
metabolic disease. What?
15:52
Adam Curry: It's a neuro
metabolic disease. This is part
15:54
of the changing of
15:56
John C Dvorak: the truth. Yeah,
no, they've been working on this
15:59
one for a while. And
16:00
Adam Curry: she's paid to to
confuse you with language. And
16:04
I'm telling you, you have a
disease, meaning
16:07
Unknown: that our body and our
brain talk to each other. What
16:10
happens is our body is very,
very smart. It wants to carry a
16:15
certain amount of fuel. And the
way that our body does this is
16:19
by carrying shaft, and our body
does not want to carry too
16:23
little fat because then we would
starve and our body also doesn't
16:27
want to carry too much fat
because then we would not be
16:30
able to do the things that we
need to do and have our body
16:33
functions well. And so there's a
sweet spot. Oh, and we call that
16:37
sweet spot that defended fat
mass setpoint
16:41
Adam Curry: the defended fat
mass setpoint.
16:49
John C Dvorak: I like the idea
of a fat man. And
16:51
Unknown: so it's basically the
amount of fuel or the amount of
16:54
fat that your body wants to
carry. Now within the context of
16:59
our current obesogenic
environment, obesogenic
17:02
Adam Curry: environment
17:04
John C Dvorak: like that one too
obesogenic.
17:07
Adam Curry: How do they come up
with this stuff,
17:09
Unknown: obesogenic environment
with all of these highly
17:13
palatable?
17:16
John C Dvorak: For Chautala
obesogenic Yeah, obesity, well,
17:19
I'll go fat mass, I want to fat
mess anything like a fat blah.
17:23
Unknown: We'll get into that
later. You want us to carry now
17:26
within the context of our
current obesogenic environment.
17:30
So an environment with all of
these highly palatable, highly
17:34
processed foods. The lack of
sleep, the lack of
17:38
Adam Curry: an obesogenic
environment is basically when
17:41
you live in McDonald's.
17:43
Unknown: In physical activity,
lack of sleep,
17:46
Adam Curry: yeah, lack of sleep.
That's part of your obesogenic
17:48
environment.
17:49
Unknown: highly palatable,
highly processed, highly
17:52
palatable.
17:53
Adam Curry: What is what does
that mean in this context?
17:55
John C Dvorak: is tasty. They
put a bunch of salt and fat
17:59
sugar
18:00
Unknown: on all of these highly
palatable, highly processed
18:03
foods. The lack of sleep, the
lack of movement and physical
18:07
activity.
18:08
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, that makes
sense.
18:12
Unknown: Yes, life podcast.
18:15
Adam Curry: I tried to stand
sometimes during the podcast,
18:18
movement
18:18
Unknown: and physical activity,
stress all these different
18:22
things in our obesogenic
environment that has pushed up
18:26
the defended fat mass setpoint
on a population level
18:29
Adam Curry: ball beautifully.
Well said, Here's your check.
18:33
John C Dvorak: Here's your I'll
tell you I pay her to straight
18:36
to hell.
18:36
Adam Curry: She's going I'm
telling you. This came up in the
18:41
Senate. And I mean, Bernie
Sanders. Everyone's all in and
18:45
it's, of course, our obesogenic
environment. It's really the
18:49
It's the food guys. The food
guys, it's their fault, because
18:54
they're creating an obesogenic
environment
18:57
John C Dvorak: to put a Senate
committee together with Nadler
18:59
running.
19:02
Adam Curry: Luckily, at the end,
there's there's one little
19:05
kicker of sanity from the
doctor. Senators
19:08
Unknown: say last year, the US
spent nearly 413 billion should
19:12
Adam Curry: probably say this,
again, is about trying to get
19:14
this stuff onto Medicare. They
desperately want it to be paid
19:19
for by the rest of America.
Senator
19:21
Unknown: say last year, the US
spent nearly $413 billion
19:26
treating the millions in the US
with diabetes.
19:29
That's up 27%. Over the past six
years,
19:33
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders
says it's only expected to get
19:36
worse the
19:37
number of children in America
with type two diabetes is
19:41
estimated to skyrocket by nearly
700% Over the next 40 years.
19:48
Number one Thursday, Dr. Keisha
told senators on the Senate
19:52
Health Education Labor and
Pensions Committee that rising
19:55
insulin prices put some of her
patients health in jeopardy
19:59
what happened insist that
patients cannot afford those
20:02
medications. And so they go
without Senator
20:04
say with many Americans turning
to drugs like ozempic to improve
20:08
other conditions like obesity.
It's harder for their
20:11
constituents to even access the
diabetes drug.
20:14
How can Congress ensure that all
populations that can benefit
20:18
from this medication have access
to it, the supply
20:21
issue is important. But there's
also really important shortages
20:24
because of the price
20:25
and Sanders says Congress also
needs to address how to prevent
20:29
obesity in the first place.
20:30
A good place to start would be
to ban junk food ads targeted to
20:36
children's
20:38
Adam Curry: keep the farmer ads
banned the junk food ads after
20:42
Unknown: this. Congress needs to
do more to hold both the food
20:46
and drug industries accountable.
We
20:48
have a food industry that
profits from making people sick,
20:52
and a drug industry that profits
from treating them. Thank
20:56
Adam Curry: you, doctor. There
you go. Give that lady a check.
20:59
That is exactly what's going on.
The food companies keep you
21:03
sick. And the pharmaceutical
industry gives you drugs to keep
21:09
you just healthy enough to
21:11
John C Dvorak: live enough to go
buy more crappy food. Yes
21:13
Adam Curry: to push the button
fill out the form. buy more
21:17
food. Eat some meats people eat
some meat. It's unbelievable.
21:24
This is this is an all out
assault. And assault on people.
21:30
Oh, don't worry about it. You
can just you know where do you
21:33
live? Oh, oh, you're in an
obesogenic environment. No
21:36
problem. We got this special.
Don't take don't take the cheap
21:38
one. Ah, because that'll make
you poop. No. You want this one
21:43
with the dial on it. Ah. Protect
your children please. As
21:49
unbelievable these people go.
Anyway, that was my big pharma
21:54
report. Congratulations,
everybody.
21:59
John C Dvorak: Yes, he scraped
two or three more of these.
22:02
Well, this
22:03
Adam Curry: was the script. I
mean, I don't know if they're
22:05
going to come up with another
angle. I couldn't have they
22:08
would have clips. Of course they
will. I could have clipped five
22:10
more locals and learning shows.
You know what? The country know
22:15
what to expect next I expect
22:17
John C Dvorak: ever forbids
giving us any news world news
22:20
report.
22:20
Adam Curry: Here's what I
expect. I expect before the year
22:24
is out. We will see a morning
news person self injecting on
22:30
camera just to show how easy it
is with the dial.
22:36
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
going to condemn you for
22:38
predicting the obvious.
22:41
Adam Curry: I just want to see
it.
22:43
John C Dvorak: But I agree.
You're probably right. Some
22:46
idiot one of these people are
going to Who will it be?
22:49
Adam Curry: Who's fat? Who's
faking? It
22:51
John C Dvorak: should be Al
Roker.
22:52
Adam Curry: No Al Roker. He lost
all the weight. No,
22:55
John C Dvorak: but he still kind
of how about Whoopi, Whoopi? No,
23:00
she won't do it. Now. She get
too much pride. Who else do we I
23:05
would do it. It has to be one of
the women that it would be
23:08
something like Savannah who's
kind of like she's not
23:11
Adam Curry: How about Gail Gail
still has a little punch punch
23:14
to her. Gail won't do it now.
Well, Oprah did it. Oprah
23:18
admitted that she did it.
23:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
fine, but she was gonna do it.
23:22
Do it once it'll do it on camera
have to be the most shameless of
23:25
the morning people. Yeah. That's
why I think Savannah would do
23:30
it. But you're right you
probably shouldn't condemn her
23:33
for your a thing why you're
doing it?
23:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need
someone who's you know clearly
23:38
obesogenic.
23:41
John C Dvorak: Okay, how about
this, okay, they bring it they
23:44
do a cattle call and they bring
in a an anchor from one of the
23:48
Adam Curry: nation's local
station local anchor, and they
23:51
bring
23:51
John C Dvorak: her onto the
network. Yeah, because this
23:53
might be her big chance.
Convince her Asia that she
23:57
should come to New York. Hey,
24:00
Adam Curry: hey, I gotta listen.
I got some great news for you.
24:03
You're gonna go national baby.
You're gonna be on the network.
24:07
Oh, really? Yeah, all you got to
do is inject yourself
24:14
John C Dvorak: have to be
somebody already taking it so
24:16
they won't even be shy about
24:17
Adam Curry: well that could be
any morning disc jockey. That
24:21
would also the morning disc
jockeys they you know, they
24:23
always used to Hey, Hey John,
how you doing on the Nutrisystem
24:28
diet. I'm still retaining water,
but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've
24:37
been on so many mornings.
Morning Show guys live in
24:40
obesogenic life. They really do
they eat.
24:44
John C Dvorak: They're jolly.
24:47
Adam Curry: Jolly Yes. It just
it is so disturbing that the
24:52
calling for oh, we should outlaw
advertising of fast food. To
24:57
keep the drugs going though.
keep them going.
25:01
John C Dvorak: That was a good
one. That's actually the best
25:02
part of that whole series.
25:04
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's
why I played it last month. I've
25:06
been doing this for 45 years. 45
years have been doing this
25:09
stuff. Sorry, I was I was I was
rolling into the next bit. Roll
25:19
by three, experiment. JC
comparing story from ABC, CBS.
25:30
He has three network reports,
all scripts, all the same stuff.
25:33
Who knows it's always
interesting to hear what is
25:36
going on and JCVD is three by
three. Well, this
25:39
John C Dvorak: is an interesting
this leads into my more
25:42
extensive Hamas report, which
will be revealing what I
25:48
consider to be the scam of this
entire conflict conflagration in
25:56
the Middle East. But this is a
I'm not sure where this goes
26:02
except for some clip I have that
follows us of Jake Tapper.
26:07
discussing things but let's go
into the three by three
26:09
discussing the conflagration in
the Middle East with ABC.
26:16
Unknown: ABC just started off
tonight that high stakes meeting
26:19
in Israel. Thank you for your
support national security
26:22
adviser Jake Sullivan urging
Prime Minister Benjamin
26:24
Netanyahu to scale back the most
intense fighting amid the
26:28
soaring civilian death toll in
Gaza.
26:30
He did talk about possible
transitioning from what we would
26:33
call high intensity operations
which is what we're seeing them
26:36
do now to lower intensity
operate Oh lower intensive
26:39
sometime, you know in the near
26:41
future US official confirming a
report in The New York Times
26:44
that a lower intensity operation
may involve the use of smaller
26:47
groups of elite Israeli forces
that would carry out more
26:50
precise missions to find and
kill Hamas leaders rescue
26:54
hostages and destroy tunnels.
President Biden weighing in
26:57
I want them to be focused on how
to save civilian lives. Not stop
27:03
going after a mosque but be more
careful.
27:06
A US official confirming that
nearly half the air to ground
27:09
munitions that Israel has used
in Gaza. unguided so called dumb
27:15
bombs. Experts say dropping
bombs which a Pentagon official
27:19
claims Israel is doing can boost
their precision and Yahoo
27:23
defined saying Israel is more
determined than ever to continue
27:26
fighting until Hamas is
eliminated. The Israeli military
27:31
is releasing this video showing
dozens of men with their hands
27:33
up surrendering, claiming their
Hamas militants who were
27:36
operating inside a hospital for
the gardens living under
27:40
Israel's relentless bombardment,
desperation and fear. Nowhere is
27:45
safe. And after 69 days of
fighting concern for the more
27:49
than 100 hostages who are still
in the hands of Hamas. The Biden
27:53
administration wants Israel to
move to a more tactical targeted
27:57
operation as soon as possible
but they also want a plan for
28:01
the future of Gaza not just the
end of Hamas.
28:04
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me see
if I if I understood correctly.
28:07
We're calling for some bull crap
measure going from high
28:11
intensity to low intensity
stopped with the dumb bombs and
28:16
be more focused be more precise
I'm missing the word I'm missing
28:19
the word surgical and and we're
missing a Tim what's your
28:24
strategy? Is that what I'm
hearing? Yeah,
28:26
John C Dvorak: pretty much and
then my favorite thing about
28:29
these bomb things when all of a
sudden we smart bombs dumb
28:33
bombs. Remember the barrel bomb
28:36
Adam Curry: barrel bomb from the
helicopters those were the best
28:39
Yes, yeah. Well, it turns out
all of that was phony and fake.
28:42
John C Dvorak: You think? So
let's go that was what that was
28:46
ABC. NBC same same report only
this time we got to Richard
28:49
angle. The spook NBC spook
28:55
Unknown: as Israel's war on
Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip.
28:58
President Biden was asked if
Israel needs to tone down its
29:02
military operation often do
29:04
focused on how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a
29:09
mosque but be more careful.
29:11
National Sheikh Salim exactly
29:13
Adam Curry: clip Yep, same clip.
Be more careful. Hey, kill
29:18
carefully.
29:19
Unknown: Not stop going after a
minute but be more careful.
29:22
National Security Adviser Jake
Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime
29:26
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
today. To US officials familiar
29:30
with the discussion. Tell NBC
News Sullivan told the Israeli
29:33
government the administration
wants Israel to end its large
29:37
scale ground campaign in Gaza
and transition to a more
29:40
targeted phase of its war
against Hamas bought that
29:43
Sullivan did not specify a
timetable to do this. Israeli
29:48
military officials tell NBC News
What
29:50
Adam Curry: was that someone
29:52
John C Dvorak: who has the woman
in the back room has stepped
29:56
over some chords and like the
mic there was
29:58
Adam Curry: supposed to be a
bomb explosion there But instead
30:00
they did this that was that's
wrong. Hey, the editor NAT pops.
30:04
Okay,
30:04
Unknown: US bought that Sullivan
did not specify a timetable to
30:08
do this. Israeli military
officials tell NBC News tonight.
30:12
We
30:13
Adam Curry: should fix that for
them. I mean, they just didn't
30:15
do that. Right. So let me see.
30:17
John C Dvorak: I agree. Okay. I
think machine gun fire that's
30:21
what I want machine
30:21
Adam Curry: gun machine gun.
Okay. Yeah, I
30:23
John C Dvorak: got some good
machine gun stuff.
30:25
Adam Curry: I got something
here. So we do an AK 47. So,
30:31
hey, why don't have ak 47. Oh,
there we go. Okay, there we go.
30:35
Fix it for him. We'll fix it of
its
30:37
Unknown: war against Hamas
bought that Sullivan did not
30:39
specify a timetable to do this.
Israeli military officials tell
30:44
NBC News so much they anticipate
a long military campaign, but
30:49
recognize they are under
pressure because of Palestinian
30:52
casualties and the humanitarian
collapse in Gaza. Our crew
30:57
filmed the aftermath of Israeli
strikes today and followed the
31:00
victims to a hospital. This was
in southern Gaza, where
31:03
Palestinians have been ordered
to go. Israel says its war is
31:07
more than justified after Hamas
massacred at least 1200 Israelis
31:12
and took 240 hostages on October
7. Richard,
31:15
I want to go back to this new US
intelligence assessment about
31:19
the bombs Israel has been using
in Gaza. What's the significance
31:22
of that report?
31:23
Well, the assessment says that
about 40 to 45% of the air to
31:29
ground munitions 29,000 air to
ground munitions that Israel has
31:33
dropped on Gaza since October 7
are unguided. Which are far less
31:37
precise.
31:38
Adam Curry: Dustin Oh unguided.
A different word for dumb. Okay.
31:43
unguided, unguided.
31:46
John C Dvorak: Alright, so they
were being set up for something
31:48
here not sure. What Yeah, I have
some ideas which will follow
31:54
let's start with the this
finishes up with our the one
31:57
that always is the best at the
end. CBS always
32:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, the CIA
broadcasting systems. Here we
32:02
go. Only Saturday. Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice. Good start boys.
32:07
Good start. Very good.
32:10
Unknown: In a shattered school,
Israel's military said it killed
32:13
many militants in intense
fighting in the past day,
32:16
hailing the surrender of about
70 alleged Hamas fighters in the
32:20
south Israeli strikes and
leveled homes and killed dozens
32:23
in Rafah and con Eunice. One
survivor said their children,
32:27
today's deaths adding to the
more than 18,000 killed
32:30
according to Gaza's health
ministry run by Hamas. President
32:34
Biden weighed in,
32:35
worked into how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a
32:41
monster be more careful with
32:43
national security adviser Jake
Sullivan in Israel today. Pres
32:46
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu on a timeline to US
32:50
officials tell CBS News Israel's
current phase of its offensive
32:54
should be completed in two to
three weeks followed by lower
32:57
levels of bombing for several
months lower levels. On Israeli
33:02
TV, Mr. Netanyahu said I told
our American friends were more
33:05
determined than ever until Hamas
is eliminated
33:09
the he's playing a game a
political game on look at me.
33:12
I'm standing up to American
pressure
33:15
alone. Pincus is Israel's former
consul general in New York as
33:20
what future pressure will the
33:22
US supply. Refrain from a veto
vote at the UN Security Council
33:26
there are several courses of
pressure that the US can apply.
33:31
One of those are these frequent
visits.
33:35
As Israel's president in Tel
Aviv marked the last night of
33:38
this year's festival of lights,
the country still hopes for a
33:41
miracle, the return of more than
100 hostages still held in
33:45
captivity. And while the US and
Israel are working together
33:49
towards another phase of hostage
releases, the two do not agree
33:53
on who will govern Gaza after
this war is over.
33:57
Adam Curry: Well at least they
give a better timeline they had
34:00
same clip of Biden of course
killed carefully
34:02
John C Dvorak: exactly the same
clip which is usually all three
34:05
networks don't have the exact
same clip cut exactly the same.
34:10
So how does that happen? They
call each other up no
34:14
Adam Curry: they got their money
34:14
John C Dvorak: get one clip from
the White House and say use this
34:18
if they
34:18
Adam Curry: send out a vinyl
like we used to get back in the
34:21
day. That big big special vinyl
you could only play 516
34:25
John C Dvorak: is transcription
disk is what it's called. Thank
34:27
Adam Curry: you. Yes, look that
up people transcription disk.
34:31
And you take the clip from
there. That's all they got.
34:33
Yeah, of course. People are busy
in the newsrooms. They don't
34:37
have time to be looking for
clips busy. They don't have no
34:40
agenda producers looking for
clips for everybody. No. Oh,
34:44
they got they are busy. They're
busy especially around the
34:47
holidays is the B team.
Everybody's out. Oh, we got a
34:51
war. Yeah, but you promised me
two weeks of vacation at
34:54
Christmas time. But we got two
wars. I don't care bring in Bob.
34:59
Bob works at in Idaho, he can do
it bring in the affiliate boys.
35:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there is an
element of that for sure. So I
35:12
want to continue this because I
have a thesis that is of course
35:18
the thesis is not new to the
show and is not new to our
35:22
analysis of the Middle East
there
35:24
Adam Curry: why even bother?
Let's just go straight to Taylor
35:27
Swift news
35:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, by the way,
you know, the Incognito grow,
35:35
who writes on every so really
still around,
35:38
Adam Curry: he doesn't write by
he
35:39
John C Dvorak: sends me clips.
And he sent me a clip of I
35:43
should I should send it to you
and you should put it in the
35:46
show notes. It's a clip of an IT
guy doing an analysis of Taylor
35:50
Swift's lame music. And it's she
uses the same four chords in the
35:55
same progression on almost every
song she does. It's MK Ultra
36:01
Yeah, well I think you've got
your think you might be onto
36:03
something with that.
36:04
Adam Curry: Hey, what does INCOG
Negro not like me? Do I recall
36:08
something that he hated me for
some reason? You're
36:11
John C Dvorak: racist. Oh, that
was it. You're making up for it
36:14
by being buddies with Mo. Mo my
36:18
Adam Curry: friend is happens to
be black. I get to say that
36:22
friend,
36:22
John C Dvorak: I have a friend
who's black
36:24
Adam Curry: who happens to be
black. You gotta say.
36:28
John C Dvorak: Right, I gotta
get the wording.
36:29
Adam Curry: I gotta get it
right. Gotta get it right. So
36:31
John C Dvorak: let's go to NTD I
want to play this. This is the
36:33
Israeli Israeli Jake Sullivan
NTD.
36:38
Unknown: This is in di D
National Security Adviser Jake
36:42
Sullivan is in Israel to
reaffirm us support.
36:45
He's meeting with top officials
pushing to move to war into its
36:49
next phase. The US wants more
intelligence based raids and
36:53
precise targeting of Hamas
leadership.
36:56
We are now in the middle of a
high intensity phase with
36:58
ongoing ground operations
military operations. Hold on a
37:03
second. Is this our war?
37:07
John C Dvorak: Gig Exactly?
37:08
Adam Curry: What's going on
here? Oh, send Jaken Hey, man,
37:12
we want we want it done
differently. You're not killing
37:14
right.
37:16
John C Dvorak: So so if you
listen to that carefully, and it
37:18
reiterates in the next half of
this clip, he says we Yes, we as
37:24
if it's our USA, our war. It's
not a weak situation. But he
37:30
says we as though it's we was
the second half of this.
37:34
Unknown: We are now in the
middle of a high intensity phase
37:37
with ongoing ground operations
military operations in both the
37:41
northern half and the southern
half of Gaza. But there will be
37:45
a transition to another phase of
this war one that is focused in
37:50
more precise ways on targeting
the leadership and
37:53
Sullivan today also met with
Israeli President Isaac Hertzog
37:56
and Tel Aviv. The two discussed
efforts to secure the release of
38:00
the hostages held in Gaza.
38:02
Adam Curry: Now I don't like any
of this. What uh, what are we
38:06
doing?
38:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are we
doing? Meanwhile, just as a
38:11
little man, interesting kind of
in the side, which got me off
38:15
the track into what I'm
thinking, which is this clip.
38:19
Hamas operatives in the EU?
Yeah.
38:22
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah.
38:23
Unknown: I know. Also today, two
suspected Hamas members arrived
38:27
at a federal court in Germany.
German authorities transported
38:31
them using a helicopter. They're
accused of planning attacks on
38:35
Jewish institutions in Europe.
38:38
authorities arrested three men
in Germany yesterday.
38:41
Prosecutors allege they were
tasked with finding a previously
38:44
set up underground Hamas weapons
cache in Europe,
38:47
the weapons were allegedly due
to be taken to Berlin. There
38:51
they be kept in a state of
readiness for potential
38:54
terrorist attacks.
38:55
Another suspected to mass
operative was arrested in the
38:58
Dutch city of Rotterdam. And
also yesterday, three alleged
39:01
terrorists were arrested in
Denmark in a separate case.
39:05
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Well, this
is this is come do. Yeah. Yes. I
39:11
mean, this this is Oh, boy. This
is unexpected.
39:15
John C Dvorak: This is a as
phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
39:21
it's actually brought together
of all places. My clever N has a
39:26
show on the weekends. And he
brings in Alan Dershowitz. Two
39:32
of them outline kind of what I
think is I don't know what
39:37
agency who's doing this. It's
obvious to me now that Dersch
39:40
Dersch isn't she's an asset is
an asset he's in a you can tell
39:45
because he's at. I can discuss
this, if, maybe later on how
39:52
much you can write as you get
older. He's 85. And he's just
39:56
finished his second book. I was
39:57
Adam Curry: writing too much,
but it's a giveaway And it's a
40:01
giveaway it
40:01
John C Dvorak: says like the guy
who did the Steve Jobs biography
40:04
the head of the Aspen Institute
at the time Eisenberg Isaacson
40:10
Isaacson that guy. Yeah. Are my
favorite example is
40:15
Adam Curry: he just did the Elon
Musk book too. Yeah, he's
40:18
John C Dvorak: cranking these
books out who's doing these
40:20
books? Well, somebody's doing
the books I've done big books. I
40:24
know what it takes to do big
books is nothing you can just
40:26
crank out like that with
40:28
Adam Curry: the books and I
cannot lie yes to books
40:31
John C Dvorak: and I cannot lie.
Let's go with this, too. Let's
40:34
start with the Hamas Levin and
Dersch part one
40:40
Unknown: to protect Jewish
students on college campuses to
40:43
daily treat that a beat the
drums about what's taking place
40:47
in this country. Every time they
mentioned when they do mention
40:51
anti semitism they feel the need
to mention
40:53
Adam Curry: I gotta mention
something. Levin's voice the
40:56
older he gets, his voice is less
powerful. It's frail. In my
41:03
agree, you know what I mean?
It's he doesn't he? He's missing
41:06
worry about that for myself. Oh,
powerful voice now you're
41:09
sounding good. Yeah,
41:11
John C Dvorak: he's becoming
frail. Don't worry. I can't say
41:14
borrower.
41:15
Adam Curry: Don't worry. I'll
put the balls on you on my end,
41:17
John C Dvorak: put the balls on
41:18
Unknown: me. Islamophobia. There
is no Islamophobia in America,
41:22
as I've said before,
Islamophobia is in the Middle
41:24
East Salama for Muslims are
slaughtering Muslims that's not
41:27
going on in this country. And
Muslims are not running to their
41:30
dorms rooms and locking
themselves in, or the lunch
41:34
rooms or the attics. They're not
afraid to go to class, and so
41:37
forth and so on. And I could go
on and on and on. But why should
41:42
I want to have a guest like Alan
Dershowitz here? What do you
41:44
make of all this? Well, you're
100%. Right. This is an attack
41:50
against the world. We just
learned that now. Hamas is
41:55
expanding its scope and and
wants to attack Jewish entities
42:00
in Europe. It's coming to a
theater near you. If Hamas has
42:04
not stopped in the Middle East,
it will spread all over the
42:09
world. It will start with Jewish
institutions as it often does.
42:13
But it will spread to Christian
institutions, it will spread to
42:17
other institutions. And we'll be
in a global war with Hamas as we
42:22
were with ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
we must do to Hamas with the
42:27
American troops under Roosevelt
and under Churchill did to Japan
42:32
and Germany bombed total
unconditional surrender. Total
42:36
War total defeat. We must wipe
out Hamas and people say you
42:41
can't wipe out an ideology.
Nonsense. We wiped out Nazism.
42:49
Adam Curry: Oh, what a gem. This
is good. Oh, yeah. So what
42:54
they're gonna be shooting up
churches? Is that what I'm
42:56
understanding from dirt? Yeah.
42:57
John C Dvorak: All right, any
minute
42:59
Adam Curry: I have Bring it on.
43:00
John C Dvorak: Now we know that
Hezbollah is a huge, highly
43:05
funded operation. Hamas are a
bunch of to bid jerk offs in
43:09
Palestine.
43:10
Adam Curry: They say Javed
Sheikh JV team, they'll be
43:13
funny.
43:15
John C Dvorak: And so we have
but now all of a sudden they're
43:18
the same in the same league as
Al Qaeda, a creation of our CIA.
43:25
Yes, our or ISIS, the creation
of the Obama administration and
43:31
Israel possibly and but they're
not going to take on and
43:37
Pakistan and pica so there's so
these these operate this now
43:41
Hamas is going to become this
somehow. And we heard from that
43:44
other clip that they're already
being arrested left and right in
43:48
in Europe, in Europe. Yeah.
Okay. So here we go. Now we're
43:52
gonna hear the, it gets better.
43:56
Adam Curry: Sorry. Wait,
43:57
John C Dvorak: I just got to, I
have to give a disclaimer. I
43:59
think this next clip is, is over
time. And I'm sorry about that.
44:05
But it's too good.
44:06
Adam Curry: I forgive you say
so. Okay, Professor
44:09
Unknown: Dershowitz. I'd like
your opinion. We keep hearing
44:12
about the Palestinian civilians
that they don't want any of
44:15
this. There's two surveys done
in the last three and a half
44:18
weeks. One is by the Arab world
for research and development.
44:22
That doesn't sound like a an
American Jewish front group to
44:25
me, and it's not and what did
they write? Taken as a whole the
44:29
results indicate that an
overwhelming percent of
44:31
Palestinians support the October
7 massacre 75% Reject
44:36
coexistence with Israel 86% are
committed to the restoration of
44:41
historical Palestine which means
the elimination of Israel as a
44:45
final solution. 71% they support
the creation of a Palestinian
44:49
state from the river to the sea,
the annihilation of Israel 75%
44:54
as the end of the Israeli
Palestinian conflict, these are
44:57
Palestinians who were surveyed
in Gaza. in Judea and Samaria,
45:01
they said the Palestinian
positive perception of terror
45:04
organizations remains high.
Despite the role in carrying out
45:08
the massacre and disastrous
results. 76 believed that Hamas
45:12
plays a somewhat the very
positive role. 84% believe that
45:16
the Palestinian Islamic Jihad
plays a summit a very positive
45:20
role. 80% believe that Fatah's
terror when they are Aqsa
45:24
martyrs, brigades plays a
somewhat a very positive role.
45:28
And 88.6% believe that Hamas is
armed wing, the Al Hassan
45:33
brigades plays a somewhat a very
positive function. So why did
45:37
the media keep telling us
there's this tremendous
45:39
distinction, this great distance
between Hamas and other
45:44
terrorist groups? And the people
who elect them and support them?
45:47
Why did they keep telling us
that you were allowed to lie, we
45:50
know that not only do the vast
majority of people in Gaza, and
45:55
on the Westbank support the
Hamas atrocities in Gaza, many
45:59
of them helped it. Remember when
Hamas broke through the fence
46:03
and start killing Israelis.
Gazan civilians followed them.
46:08
They participated in the rapes,
the beheadings, the murders,
46:11
Gaza, balls, help them by having
tunnels under their homes, by
46:17
having command centers by having
rockets being fired from schools
46:23
and from mosques. So look, we
all have to be sympathetic to
46:27
the babies and the children who
are used as human shields, by
46:30
the way by Hamas, and every
single one of these babies who
46:33
were killed is the
responsibility of Hamas. But I'm
46:36
far less sympathetic to the
adults who aggressively support
46:41
Hamas. You know, if they were in
America, they'd be tried for
46:43
crimes because you can't, under
American law, provide material
46:47
support for a terrorist group.
And these Gazans are providing
46:51
material support for Hamas,
which is a terrorist group.
46:55
Adam Curry: Alright, so I'm, I'm
obviously on board with your
46:58
with your thesis, it's a long
standing no agenda thesis. Do
47:02
you think that this is intended
just to create a state of fear a
47:07
is a tension strategy amongst
the United States and and
47:11
Western Europe?
47:14
John C Dvorak: Well, I think, as
well, as this continues, I have
47:18
maybe history more clips. Add to
this. So it's a known fact, at
47:24
least has been a known fact. And
as discussed in some forums here
47:28
and there, that there's 1.4
trillion cubic feet of gas,
47:34
right under Gaza. There's one
point or it's over 3 billion
47:39
barrels of oil right off the
coast at Gaza. They are they
47:43
have I think that this was a
deal where they decided some
47:46
time ago, they're going to let
them develop this the they cut
47:51
Gaza loose, there's not an
occupied territory, the Israelis
47:54
left it and left it to the to
the Palestinians to develop and
48:00
do their own thing, and then
maybe do some split deals, maybe
48:03
who knows what, but that was
going to be a developed oil
48:05
field and gas field. And they
bet they dropped the ball, they
48:10
didn't do their job, and now
they're going to be rousted out
48:14
of Gaza, they're just going to
get rid of all the Palestinians,
48:17
let's put shit like this in
disgust, the fact that the
48:21
Palestinians are bad people,
which is what you just heard in
48:24
that clip, and who cares what
happens to them, and we're going
48:28
to hear more and more of this
kind of thing. It's going to be
48:30
slanted that way. So we can get
to those gas and oil wells, when
48:35
in fact, we have to always
remember a couple of things that
48:38
in the background is that Biden
and the Democrats are phonies.
48:42
And the Democrats in particular
is like the string people along
48:46
like they've done with the black
population in this country and
48:49
promising him stuff and they're
doing with the
48:51
environmentalists, as the Biden
administration has more has done
48:56
more for the oil business than
Trump ever would do. It just
49:00
look at the price of Exxon stock
from the day that Biden got in
49:04
we are pumping more oil than
ever before the whole Burisma
49:08
things and oil thing everything
Why is when people say why the
49:12
crude oil prices they haven't
done anything with this Middle
49:15
East action they usually go up
no they have gone down because
49:19
we are going to pump more oil
out of this area. This is about
49:23
oil we're going to rouse these
Palestinians their hell with
49:27
them. Get them out of there if
you they won't pump the oil
49:30
because you're too stupid. We'll
do it John cedars bore access
49:35
Eva today.
49:37
Adam Curry: It's been a while
been a while. Well, this
49:40
explains why they can't bomb
them. We can't really bomb it.
49:43
That wouldn't be no good. And
that may also explain why these
49:47
Hamas guys are in Qatar. They
know a bit about gas and oil.
49:53
Yep.
49:54
John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay. Yep,
perfect. Qatar probably has
49:57
dropped the ball in his deal to
somebody dropped the ball
49:59
somewhere. Because this, these
oil fields are known, especially
50:02
the gas, the gas field
underneath the Gaza itself,
50:06
let's go to clip three. And
50:07
Unknown: as I say, it's coming
to America, it's coming to
50:10
Europe, Hamas is not going to
stop. If it prevails in the
50:14
Middle East, it's going to
continue just the way al Qaeda
50:17
and other groups have continuous
we have to stop it in the
50:21
interests of America. And
50:23
Adam Curry: when I say bomber I
mean like big bombs, like mother
50:25
of all bombs, like bombs to
exterminate. No,
50:29
John C Dvorak: you can't do
that. You can't do that. You
50:30
just got to rouse them, you got
to clear them. And here's the
50:34
clip for and
50:35
Unknown: Israel should be a
bipartisan issue. All sides
50:38
should support Israel without
regard to what parties they
50:42
belong to. And there's been a
rise in popularity of Hamas in
50:45
the United States as well. On
October 8, the day after these
50:50
horrors that occurred on
September 7, students at Harvard
50:54
supported Hamas, the National
Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I
50:58
document all of this. I wrote a
book right after the events that
51:01
question I started writing it on
October 7, World War against the
51:05
Jews. And in it, I document how
increased support for Hamas
51:10
occurred among the hard left,
the hard left has become the
51:14
enemy of justice, of decency of
academia. And we have to
51:19
continue our fight not only
against Hamas, but against Hamas
51:23
supporters in the United States
that can become easily a fifth
51:27
column. Remember, in the 1970s,
the weatherman started blowing
51:32
up universities trying to blow
up Fort Dix, that's going to
51:37
happen here. We have a fifth
column of hard left Hamas
51:41
supporters, many of them Muslim,
many of them not Muslim, many of
51:45
them hard left, kids are
friends, children are marching
51:49
with Hamas. And that's why it's
so dangerous to Americans and to
51:53
the world and why we have to
fight back idiotically, we have
51:57
a combination on our college
campuses and beyond of an
52:00
Islamist and a Marxist ideology,
because they both support the
52:04
same thing the destruction of
the Enlightenment, the
52:07
destruction of Western culture,
and that and they are genocidal
52:11
your book the war against the
Jews how to end Hamas barbarism.
52:15
Let me tell you what's
fascinating about your book,
52:16
among other things, how you
wrote it as quickly as it did
52:20
how you got to publish as
quickly as you did. And it's not
52:23
only question it's up to date on
everything that's going on in
52:26
this country, which is why I
wanted to have you on you can
52:28
get this on amazon.com Any major
bookstore
52:32
Adam Curry: Wow. So he bang that
out in two months and
52:37
John C Dvorak: published and
anyone who's ever been in the
52:39
publishing business knows now
No, no, that's that's not even
52:44
close to being possible. Okay,
saying that out and has edited
52:50
copy edited design types of
everything published in in 60
52:56
days. Now the other thing which
is just a little sidelight here,
52:59
which I'm starting to notice and
you start thinking about this is
53:03
just an oil play. And you start
looking back at all the
53:06
complaining all the this fear
mongering about all this
53:09
southern border, Hamas is coming
up the southern border, no
53:12
Hamas? No, they, you know,
they've gone from this to bid
53:15
operation in Gaza, to this world
threat overnight, and we just
53:21
lap it up. And both sides,
especially the right the right
53:24
wingers lack this stuff. Yep.
But here's the thing that's been
53:28
going on because I caught two of
these and I have one of them. I
53:32
clipped one of them. And this is
the Kubo version I the first one
53:38
I heard which I didn't clip
which was on the Piers Morgan
53:41
show. And one of his
correspondents was pretty much
53:44
saying what Cuomo is saying here
about they're starting to show
53:49
sin tapes of the atrocities.
53:53
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah. No, I'm,
53:55
John C Dvorak: I'm very
concerned about this. Because of
53:58
the, of the Wag the Dog idea.
Show is day one. It's
54:05
Adam Curry: not an idea. It's a
plan. Two
54:07
John C Dvorak: and a half months
after the event. Two and a half
54:11
months is a lot of time to do
whatever you want to do. You can
54:15
you can fake a moon landing.
54:18
Adam Curry: Two and a half
months now you're talking.
54:21
Welcome to the dark
54:22
John C Dvorak: side. I live in
New York. So you put up with
54:24
these clips. So let's let's
listen to Hamas Cuomo,
54:30
Revelation. Today
54:32
Unknown: has been a heavy day
around here. Why? Well, many of
54:36
us have seen portions of video
of the October 7 massacre. What
54:41
Hamas terrorists did, mostly to
innocent Israel,
54:44
Adam Curry: is he going to
mention that that this was what
54:46
the IDF compiled and they showed
it to the international news
54:51
media in a theater for 45
minutes they showed that and
54:55
this is an you know, I'm really
starting to think you're onto
54:58
something here because The thing
that I noticed immediately it's
55:02
all body cam. It's all first
person shooter like stuff. It's
55:08
all it's all, you know, which is
easy to intermingle with, with,
55:11
with game footage.
55:13
Unknown: But there are things
that you have not seen because
55:16
they were never posted or made
public. And the reality of them
55:22
hits hard.
55:23
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me, he saw
the chopping off baby's heads
55:27
Unknown: very hard. I know,
because I was shown a good
55:32
amount of it today. 47 minutes.
That's worth it. That's a lot of
55:37
one type of terror footage. And
I now understand something that
55:41
Hamas was doing and that Israel
is responding to, that I did not
55:46
fully appreciate before. Now, I
still think you should see what
55:53
I saw. But to be honest, the
shock of today is a little
55:57
fresh. And I'm not as adamant
about that, as I was before I
56:02
went to the viewing. So I'll try
to convey what hit me about it.
56:07
And at some point, it's always
better if you get to see and
56:11
decide for yourself. All right.
But what I'm going to talk to
56:14
you about is going to inform why
Israel is not anxious to agree
56:20
to what seems obvious to many,
including the United States, its
56:23
most powerful, influential ally,
the bombing has to stop and
56:29
before the end of the year,
that's what President Biden is
56:32
saying suggesting deadlines and
clearly criticizing Israel's
56:37
tactics. And it is raising a
question Could the United States
56:42
withdraw support from its main
ally in the Middle East?
56:48
Adam Curry: I'm always surprised
how we as humans can put
56:53
different levels of of death
into like this is worst death
56:59
and that death Yes, I know. We
know where the with the bomb
57:02
someone to death or chop their
head off to death or burn them
57:06
to death. It's death. Now it's
just it's it's death. It's it's,
57:12
it's not cool, no matter what.
But this is where we work on the
57:17
psyche of people. And the 47
minutes, I believe is the entire
57:21
idea of Compendium,
57:23
John C Dvorak: I think it is.
But you don't even know if it's
57:25
the same one because they're
showing it again to certain
57:29
certain select journalists.
57:31
Adam Curry: I mean, is this any
different from anything we've
57:33
already seen on telegram? Is it
all of that stuff? I
57:37
John C Dvorak: don't know. I
haven't I have no idea. All I
57:39
know is that we're that this
whole thing looks like we're
57:43
being played and we're being
paid by both sides. And the oil
57:47
companies are somehow involved
and the middle that's all I can
57:51
conclude Yeah. And and they're
good at it and these protests
57:56
you have to wonder what's really
triggering those whose is it
58:00
environmental groups is is
58:03
Adam Curry: now you're into my
territory? Well, I
58:05
John C Dvorak: have some some
protests. There's protest. I
58:08
have protests clips from South
Africa. They're protesting in
58:11
Pakistan. They're they're
protesting everywhere for no
58:16
reason. Allow me to why are they
protesting this? This fellas
58:20
Danian situation in South
Africa. Allow
58:24
Adam Curry: me to start with
some political protests. As we
58:28
saw the trade unions in America
come together the UAE w the
58:33
United Auto Workers who had a
very successful strike I would
58:38
say against the car
manufacturers.
58:41
John C Dvorak: And yeah, if you
want to lose your job, and the
58:45
Adam Curry: UAE w the United
electrical workers, and they had
58:50
their statement,
58:51
Unknown: the world seen enough
slaughter and devastation.
58:55
John C Dvorak: Wait a second. I
just want to stop you there. The
58:59
white workers did at that day
you electrical workers are the
59:01
IBEW Who are these guys?
59:04
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
said. I see you ew. Let me say
59:07
you w maybe let's make sure I'm
right. You ew. You told me was
59:16
the UW W. University of
Education when a Toba no maybe I
59:29
should add union I'm just doing
book of knowledge here. Let's
59:33
see you Aw. Oh, it's
interesting. doesn't even exist
59:40
at the video literally had you
ew. And said United electrical
59:46
workers.
59:47
John C Dvorak: Your I don't know
such. Yeah, it was actually a
59:50
short met for a very short time
was a member of the IBEW and
59:53
that's a very famous huge union
for electrical workers.
59:58
Adam Curry: United electrical
radio machine Workers that's
1:00:00
what that's what you're talking
about right?
1:00:03
John C Dvorak: With the IBEW
International Brotherhood of
1:00:06
Electrical organise electricians
out here
1:00:08
Adam Curry: I have united
electrical. That's the UAE? I
1:00:14
don't know, I'll have to go. But
it was it was this clip is from
1:00:17
Turkish Radio Television. So
take it with that grain of salt.
1:00:21
But these are union people who
are in America. I'm pretty sure
1:00:24
that's correct. The world
1:00:26
Unknown: seen enough slaughter
and devastation. These is the
1:00:31
only path forward. This
1:00:33
is the time for workers to
leverage our labor power and
1:00:35
electoral power sustained an
uncompromising solidarity with
1:00:38
the cost of Palestinian freedom.
While we
1:00:41
call for a ceasefire. We also
condemn anti semitism,
1:00:47
Islamophobia, anti Arab racism,
all of which are growing in our
1:00:54
nation at this moment and must
be stopped. Right?
1:00:57
The right wing government is
taking the lasting trauma of
1:01:02
Israeli Jews from the Holocaust
as great as using it to
1:01:06
traumatize generations of
Palestinians. Trauma will
1:01:10
inevitably result in the new
generation of resistance sack
1:01:15
the patient. We can't accept
that. Now. That
1:01:17
Adam Curry: guy sounds like a
union worker. I like that guy.
1:01:19
John C Dvorak: That guy was
good. Yeah, he does. So
1:01:23
Adam Curry: that but union
workers, we know that we know
1:01:26
who backs them. This is all
political. This one though, was
1:01:29
kind of surprising. This is the
Google employees.
1:01:32
Unknown: I am here in opposition
to Israel's system of apartheid
1:01:36
that curtails Palestinian rights
and ends Palestinian lives, a
1:01:40
system that my employer
materially supports through its
1:01:44
involvement with Project Nimbus,
drop the project.
1:01:59
Adam Curry: So that was big, it
was a very big protest at
1:02:02
Google. And they're protesting
project Nimbus, which I looked
1:02:07
up, which is a cloud computing
project of the Israeli
1:02:11
government. This is what Google
does. They do cloud computing.
1:02:17
Yet. That's the basic thing.
Yeah, they're basically saying,
1:02:21
don't do business for Israel,
which I found to be quite
1:02:25
surprising, then we have and
then you know, after these two,
1:02:29
which is
1:02:29
John C Dvorak: weird, because
Israel is also we should always
1:02:31
remember that Israel is a tech
hub for the United States. It's
1:02:36
one of our development areas,
especially in Haifa. Oh, yeah.
1:02:39
It's I mean, Intel, I'd say most
of their processors or every
1:02:44
other processors designed from
Israel In Israel. Good point
1:02:48
Adam Curry: have we're gonna ban
Intel machines due to Intel
1:02:52
outside watch. Now, hey,
Netanyahu, he's this is this is
1:03:00
very political. He's got all the
protests happening in his front
1:03:03
yard.
1:03:04
Unknown: Israel's military says
that has accidentally killed
1:03:07
three of the hostages kidnapped
by Hamas during its October 7
1:03:11
terror attacks. The three
Israelis were reportedly shot
1:03:14
after being mistaking as the
threat by soldiers pursuing
1:03:18
Palestinian militants in Gaza
City. the loved ones of those
1:03:22
kidnapped are demanding
immediate return of the
1:03:24
remaining hostages, and say
their safety must be prioritized
1:03:29
over the fighting.
1:03:32
News of the hostage killings
galvanized demonstrators in Tel
1:03:37
Aviv. roads were blocked as
hundreds demanded the safe
1:03:41
return of those still in Gaza.
10 weeks after they were
1:03:45
kidnapped. Much of the anger
directed at Israel's Prime
1:03:50
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu
1:03:55
will say that he went he's
responsible for everything that
1:03:58
is happening, that happened and
anything happening. He has
1:04:02
blocked a lot of blood on an
issue to resign. Now, there
1:04:07
Adam Curry: you go. They're
calling for his head. He must
1:04:09
resign. It's all his fault, and
he has a response. His response
1:04:14
is a giant clock. Israeli
1:04:16
Unknown: Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu said that the
1:04:18
relentless bombing campaign
could help push them off back to
1:04:22
the negotiating table, a
possibility he revealed as the
1:04:26
head of the Israeli spy agency
has been in talks with the Prime
1:04:30
Minister of Qatar.
1:04:33
Adam Curry: Without the military
pressure, we would not have been
1:04:35
able to create a deal to release
more than 100 hostages and only
1:04:39
further military pressure will
lead to the return of all of our
1:04:43
hostages.
1:04:44
Unknown: Netanyahu said the
accidental killings of three
1:04:47
Israeli hostages by the
military, even as they had been
1:04:51
waving a white flag broke his
heart and the nation's hearts.
1:04:55
But he committed to the military
campaign in Gaza until he said
1:04:59
Hamas Ross was dismantled in Tel
Aviv as the large clock
1:05:03
continues to count the seconds.
Since the hostages were taken by
1:05:07
Hamas on October 7, families
turned up the heat on the
1:05:11
government to get hostage talks
back on track. And a senior
1:05:15
member of Hamas weighed in
saying the three hostage deaths
1:05:19
at the hands of the Israeli
military proved Israel's
1:05:22
campaign was a strategic and
technical failure. I
1:05:27
tell those Israeli prisoners
relatives who set a clock in Tel
1:05:30
Aviv counting the time until
their loved ones come back. This
1:05:34
clock of yours could go forever.
If the Israeli one want the
1:05:38
hostages and the prisoners to
come back alive, this won't
1:05:41
happen unless there is a
complete cessation of Israeli
1:05:44
aggression.
1:05:45
Adam Curry: There you go. Big
clock. Big clock that'll
1:05:49
John C Dvorak: show you. She
brought up the hostages that
1:05:51
were shot. I have this funny
clip from our tea. Only a few of
1:05:57
these outlets, I would say
democracy now RT and the others
1:06:00
discussed the details of these
guys getting a shot. This clip
1:06:06
as hostages shot
1:06:09
Adam Curry: seems clear enough
reported
1:06:11
Unknown: details from the ideas
investigation have sparked a
1:06:14
wave of discontent in Tel Aviv
with new intensity. They say
1:06:18
that the hostages who were
killed were actually waving a
1:06:21
makeshift white flag. In the
later comments. The IDF was
1:06:25
quoted as saying that Hamas
militants have previously used
1:06:29
white flags to the Israeli
soldiers into ambushes. But one
1:06:33
of the killed hostages was
reportedly shouting for help in
1:06:36
Hebrew, right before he was shot
dead. The IDF spokesman or
1:06:41
spokesperson says that the army
identified them as a threat.
1:06:44
While Israel's Army Chief of
General Staff stated that the
1:06:47
troops are responsible.
1:06:50
Now, firing at the hostages was
against the Army's instructions
1:06:54
for opening fire. It is
prohibited to shoot at people
1:06:57
holding a white flag and
attempting to surrender. But the
1:07:00
shooting was done during
fighting and under pressure.
1:07:03
The patience of the relatives of
the families of the hostages are
1:07:08
ending they demand the Israeli
government now to do more. And
1:07:13
they are saying that Israeli
prime minister and his war
1:07:16
cabinet are not committed
enough. And it is not their
1:07:20
first priority to bring back the
hostages about 130 Israeli field
1:07:26
the captivity of the terrorists
have cameras, and some of them
1:07:30
are elderly, women, children and
their relatives of those sons,
1:07:35
the Jets. You know,
1:07:38
Adam Curry: cut that off. Let me
just say one thing, your
1:07:42
assertion here about the oil and
gas I would have said yeah,
1:07:47
maybe because you know there's a
lot offshore Lebanon, we know
1:07:50
about the Leviathan field we
know that Israel had a beer but
1:07:53
that's north now. I know. Bear
with me. I'm with the I'm
1:07:56
agreeing with you. The reason
why I think you're really onto
1:07:59
something is because you and and
Horowitz you track these prices
1:08:04
and everything we've seen in the
past when there was a Middle
1:08:07
East skirmish, oil prices go up?
And it's just not the case.
1:08:13
John C Dvorak: That's going
down. Yes. So actually going way
1:08:16
down,
1:08:17
Adam Curry: that means that
there is knowledge, there is
1:08:20
knowledge that this is all for
good. And how much longer do
1:08:23
they have to bomb before this?
Just nobody left? I don't think
1:08:26
it can be that much longer. No,
1:08:28
John C Dvorak: this is the tough
part. But I'm gonna go back to
1:08:30
that clip I just played. So in
other reports that these guys
1:08:34
came out shirtless, waving a
white flag. And now and then the
1:08:40
report in that article was
interesting, because they said,
1:08:42
well, that white flight doesn't
mean that much because they've
1:08:44
been they've been ambushed
numerous times by Hamas guys
1:08:48
waving a white flag and then
they get ambushed. Isn't that a
1:08:52
war crime? Isn't that a war
crime? And the other thing is
1:08:56
that walking around in civilian
without even having uniforms
1:09:00
just as a military group amongst
civilians pretending to be
1:09:04
civilians, isn't that a war
crime? I
1:09:06
Adam Curry: love rules of war
that
1:09:09
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
they always bring it up that
1:09:11
this this is a war crime. That's
a war crime. This is a war but
1:09:15
they never bring this stuff up
when it comes to Hamas. They
1:09:18
never said that committing war
crimes. Who was that? They
1:09:21
talked about? massacres a
massacre who's they who's they?
1:09:26
The mainstream media? Oh, okay.
And in fact, I would say there
1:09:30
are T rushing media which is
part of the mainstream media
1:09:33
Adam Curry: my opinion this
makes no sense. So the media
1:09:37
which we know is run by Jews,
they're not bringing that up.
1:09:41
Just the
1:09:41
John C Dvorak: media's yeah the
joke is is what what kind of
1:09:44
Jews are running the media
1:09:45
Adam Curry: if they're not
bringing it up?
1:09:47
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch
of this is there's too many
1:09:50
anomalies it's it's rife. And so
I'm more every time and it these
1:09:55
these contradictory issues, like
not saying you know, we can't
1:09:59
get confirm it. But we can't we
will confirm this, we won't
1:10:02
confirm that the everything is
stinks to high heaven. We're
1:10:07
Adam Curry: also missing a lot
of key elements of, of
1:10:11
traditional war crimes. We're
missing the Captagon. What is
1:10:16
it? What is the what is the
cheap meth drug? We haven't had,
1:10:21
we haven't had Hamas taken that
we haven't had them taking
1:10:25
Viagra to rape. We're missing
some key elements that are
1:10:29
typical for this type of
operation. So this is different.
1:10:34
John C Dvorak: Now that we're
going to talk about gas fields,
1:10:39
who are the people that will be
vying for control of these gas
1:10:42
fields? And that's I think, is
boo who's behind who's who's
1:10:47
behind the protests. He's left
wing protests. I think Russia
1:10:50
has got something to do with
this. Because Putin just did
1:10:54
his. And I'm gonna say that for
this reason, this is just a this
1:10:58
is a stretch, and I can't prove
a word of it of a supposition
1:11:01
like this. But Putin just did
his 10 and 10 hour long is
1:11:05
classic press Show, none of this
came up. That I know of. And it
1:11:15
it just seems that this is
something he could Scheid people
1:11:17
will all you know, they're just
after the oil and gas. I think
1:11:20
they've got a lot to do with
this. And all these Palestinian
1:11:23
protests in United States here
and everybody falling in line,
1:11:27
and all these flags who's making
these flags? I mean, the whole
1:11:30
thing is, is if just if that's
true, it stinks. If
1:11:34
Adam Curry: that's true, if
that's true, me as part of the
1:11:38
end times and revelation, if
Russia is literally involved in
1:11:42
this, that's bad. That's really
bad. That's the one thing you
1:11:47
don't want to see. Is Russia
being involved in this one?
1:11:51
John C Dvorak: This biblical is
the gas of 1.4 trillion cubic
1:11:59
feet of natural gas under Gaza,
not in the ocean, the Royals in
1:12:05
the ocean, the gases right
there. Can
1:12:08
Adam Curry: you side drill? Do
you need to have do you need to
1:12:11
go straight down? Can't you just
sit on the sidelines and drill
1:12:14
from the side?
1:12:16
John C Dvorak: There's, there's,
there's a bunch of international
1:12:19
law about that.
1:12:20
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back to
law. By the way.
1:12:25
John C Dvorak: These these, this
1.4 trillion cubic feet. This is
1:12:28
why this thing has been dragging
on so long. It was in 2000 that
1:12:32
two wells drilled by British Gas
discovered the there's a reserve
1:12:38
of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of
natural gas under there.
1:12:43
Adam Curry: All right, well, so
this would be the reason why we
1:12:47
need to kill carefully,
carefully, let's slow down is
1:12:53
John C Dvorak: to rush them.
They started at the north. And
1:12:55
so you gotta get out of here and
they moved because there's
1:12:57
tunnels. You gotta go gotta get
it out of there. Because the
1:13:00
tunnels there's all this all
these command centers under the
1:13:04
hospitals get out. So they moved
him south and they start bombing
1:13:07
they're trying to get them out.
And they're trying to get Egypt
1:13:10
to accept them each it's got to
be part of this deal.
1:13:13
Adam Curry: Well, but they're
not Egypt has it has the border
1:13:15
closed and deload Egypt has
1:13:17
John C Dvorak: said no, we got
nothing to do with this right.
1:13:19
But that the public at large
doesn't know what the hell's
1:13:22
going on. This whole thing
stinks. Wow.
1:13:29
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think you've covered it.
1:13:33
John C Dvorak: No, maybe I think
you have I think I think I do
1:13:36
want to play one more this these
clips from South Africa. I just
1:13:39
think that too funny. Okay. Is
Israeli South Africa protests.
1:13:46
Unknown: And in South Africa
reconciliation day has taken on
1:13:49
a new form as hundreds they're
also gathered for a pro
1:13:53
Palestine March, knowing
firsthand what genocide and
1:13:57
forced displacement looks like.
local journalists. katlego Sami
1:14:02
told us more on this in this
report.
1:14:04
Adam Curry: Well, this doesn't
make much sense in if Russia is
1:14:07
in on it.
1:14:10
John C Dvorak: I believe me none
of it makes sense. But I'm just
1:14:13
That's why I can't prove
anything about the Russians. But
1:14:16
this this idea that this is this
is part of the fine I'm not
1:14:19
mistaken. This wasn't South
Africa pop up first populated by
1:14:23
the Afrikaners out of Holland
and there was nothing there
1:14:27
except a few band twos there was
really no force there was no
1:14:31
genocide or forced evacuations
back in the whenever that year
1:14:36
Adam Curry: was irrelevant
colonialism. That's what it is
1:14:39
colonialism and so
1:14:40
John C Dvorak: they just got it
so we were lying a new history
1:14:43
is we're managing to do with
these with these protests and,
1:14:46
and South Africa. protesting
about Palestine is ludicrous,
1:14:51
but okay, if I don't really want
to play anymore the clip Oh
1:14:55
goodness. You're done mad,
1:14:57
Adam Curry: you're mad. All
right. Well, then let's You
1:15:00
bring it stateside for a moment.
Because we are ratcheting up
1:15:04
tension. We are and it's all
political. Obviously. We just
1:15:10
had the Obama connected movie
about the cyber attack. The
1:15:16
hackers were all going to die
throwing some racial stuff. But
1:15:21
now the M five M is coming out
with a new one. Because we of
1:15:26
course now need to talk about
civil war. And I can I can tell
1:15:31
you that there's not going to be
a civil war in America just
1:15:37
isn't. Do you have any feeling
there's going to be an all out
1:15:40
Civil War I've ever ever
consider that that there's even
1:15:44
an inkling of that happening.
1:15:46
John C Dvorak: No, that's it's
obvious talking point from the
1:15:50
from the mainstream and Fox
talking heads that have to talk
1:15:54
about something and this is
pretty exciting. And I'm
1:15:57
Adam Curry: going to add to
that. One of the info Mavericks,
1:16:01
the new M five M I'm calling Tim
Poole out is that so there's a
1:16:06
new movie, you might have seen
the trailer it's called
1:16:08
John C Dvorak: Civil War he has
called Civil War. I've seen the
1:16:11
trailer Yes. 15
1:16:12
Adam Curry: states secede from
the Union and create an army and
1:16:15
they go to And funny enough,
it's Texas and California.
1:16:18
Because now of course,
1:16:19
John C Dvorak: yeah, we love it.
In fact, I think I think that's
1:16:24
the code that is not even within
the realm of possibilities now,
1:16:30
but do you do that as as a wink
wink, nudge nudge to the people
1:16:34
that are laughing up their
sleeves about this movie? Yes.
1:16:37
Adam Curry: But Tim Poole is all
in on it. And he's a part of it.
1:16:40
It's
1:16:40
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news.
1:16:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They're
playing it Tim Poole clip I
1:16:47
Adam Curry: am because he's part
of this new info Maverick
1:16:51
elites. He's a part of it. And
he's proud of it hates
1:16:55
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news dropped,
1:16:58
the new film is coming out in
2024. Called civil war. And what
1:17:03
is it about? Oh, man, you better
believe I'm excited. It is a
1:17:07
film about a civil war in the
United States. And I gotta say,
1:17:11
based on the trailer, I'm gonna
go man, it is funny that this
1:17:15
trailer drops and I get all
these people tweeting at me
1:17:17
being like Tim Poole, what do
you think? Yo, let me start by
1:17:21
saying this. The reason the
movie exists has nothing to do
1:17:25
with me. The reason I talk about
Civil War is the same reason
1:17:29
someone made a movie about it.
It's the same reason Stephen
1:17:32
Marsh wrote a book about it.
It's the same reason why
1:17:36
numerous news outlets have
written the same thing. We're
1:17:40
all looking at an ever expanding
culture war, division among
1:17:45
states, and many people
advocating for national divorce,
1:17:48
including elected members of
Congress. So you may watch my
1:17:53
show. And think Tim Poole talks
about this a lot. But I gotta be
1:17:57
honest, I probably talk about it
less than many in the corporate
1:18:01
press. As a large brand. Several
of these new news outlets have
1:18:04
way more articles about civil
war than videos I produce. I'm a
1:18:07
single, I'm a single person. But
if you only watch my show, or
1:18:11
you mostly watch it, you'll see
stories about Civil War pop up
1:18:14
or the conversation happen.
Somebody invested a lot of money
1:18:18
into making a movie about Civil
War, why it's on the American
1:18:22
mind. It's in the media, no
books, it's coming from the
1:18:25
mouths of Princeton professors.
And that resulted in me saying
1:18:30
Hey, guys, I think this might be
right. Bullshit. Get
1:18:35
Adam Curry: out of town. Can
1:18:36
John C Dvorak: I mention
something he did it Cuomo does
1:18:39
to bromo did it he just did it?
Where you ask a question and
1:18:43
throw the word why Yeah.
1:18:46
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, they
all do that. They all do
1:18:49
John C Dvorak: your you say
well, do you what do you think
1:18:52
this is a why? You know, you
should make a statement as to
1:18:54
why and you say why? And then
you answer the question you ask
1:18:58
yourself. You may lame.
1:19:03
Adam Curry: I like you may only
watch my show. Come on. That was
1:19:09
good.
1:19:10
John C Dvorak: I like that.
Well, he's he knows how to
1:19:12
promote Well, yeah. Sound Do
1:19:16
Adam Curry: you like his sound?
1:19:18
John C Dvorak: I do. I think it
has a certain clarity. It's not
1:19:20
like your sound. But I think
he's got it. I think his sound
1:19:24
is heathen. I really like his
sound. I think he's got a nice
1:19:29
sound for his voice. I think it
I should say
1:19:34
Adam Curry: I Yeah, you didn't
have to say it at all. Really?
1:19:37
John C Dvorak: I didn't. You're
right. completely
1:19:39
Adam Curry: unnecessary. Reflect
up
1:19:40
John C Dvorak: on that play the
clip. Do you deserve it?
1:19:45
Adam Curry: But this is this is
what's not good for anybody.
1:19:48
This is the new the new
mainstream is starting to show
1:19:53
itself. And it's like Twitter
talking. It's led you know where
1:19:59
the the The old mainstream has
New York Times and The New
1:20:03
mainstream the has Elon Musk
basically and whatever he wants
1:20:10
to have happen on x and n it
there's a lot it's dumb there's
1:20:15
a lot of Dominus flooding
through and people are thinking
1:20:17
this is great freedom of speech
these people they know what
1:20:20
they're talking about yes of a
war no no no no you're being
1:20:26
played here at Temple may not be
not not a conscious participant
1:20:30
probably. But it's just this
it's wrong
1:20:37
John C Dvorak: lot of these guys
are getting a memo and you know
1:20:40
okay do this do that. Oh no, no
like the script. Get a script
1:20:43
kiddies are the kiddies but I
think the script readers on the
1:20:48
mainstream it's
1:20:49
Adam Curry: you know, I'm gonna
go back and say it again with
1:20:51
the New York Times was doing and
still does four mainstream M
1:20:55
five M That's what x and Musk is
doing for this new these info
1:21:02
mavericks and it's not healthy.
And I'm and we have to we have
1:21:09
to go against we got to call
them out, man. Call them out.
1:21:13
Gotta call them out. We got to
do a meanwhile, I will say that
1:21:19
the best news that came off of x
which of course we've got all
1:21:23
the videos on x for this one.
This is just mind boggling.
1:21:27
Unknown: You attend the United
States Senate is being rocked by
1:21:30
a sec scandal. US Capitol Police
are investigating after a sex
1:21:34
tape surfaced online. It showed
two men engaged in sex acts
1:21:38
inside room 216 of the hair
Senate office building that's a
1:21:43
famous hearing room where US
senators have grilled high
1:21:47
profile presidential nominees.
By the way.
1:21:49
Adam Curry: I like your script
very funny. Grilled very funny
1:21:52
with senators have grilled high
1:21:54
Unknown: profile presidential
nominees, including Supreme
1:21:57
Court justices. It's unclear if
the tape will be considered
1:22:01
criminal conduct but it may have
violated Senate ethics rules.
1:22:07
Adam Curry: I mean, this was
disgusting. And they just posted
1:22:11
everywhere. What is what is
going on? Does this happen?
1:22:18
John C Dvorak: It's just the
funniest thing I've seen for a
1:22:21
while. And it is disgusting. And
the one guy looks identifiable.
1:22:29
Adam Curry: Oh no, we everyone
knows who he is. He's he's known
1:22:32
now.
1:22:33
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, who
is he? Oh, I
1:22:34
Adam Curry: haven't even I
didn't even write it down. Are
1:22:37
you kidding me? Kidding me? I'm
not gonna write that down. He's
1:22:40
and they know who's is from a
Democrat senators office. He's a
1:22:44
staffer. There's another picture
of him on whatever gay sex
1:22:49
website and he's naked in what
he calls the work showers with
1:22:54
his butt in the air and he says
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham
1:23:02
so I don't know if this is some
this is some very deep op that
1:23:07
something
1:23:07
John C Dvorak: going on? We
don't know what it is. We'll
1:23:09
figure it out if it continues
because these things are not not
1:23:14
that complicated.
1:23:15
Adam Curry: So me what you were
talking about Taylor Swift. I
1:23:17
hate to say it but now back to
real. Taylor Swift the OP
1:23:23
continues
1:23:24
Unknown: a resolution
recognizing the year 2023 as the
1:23:27
Taylor Swift era in
Pennsylvania. Will the
1:23:30
House agree to the resolution?
House resolutions are not
1:23:34
legislation and their
consideration should not be a
1:23:39
function of our government. I
urge a no vote on this
1:23:43
resolution and suggest we get
back to actually governing Thank
1:23:47
you Madam Speaker.
1:23:51
Members information. House
resolutions are legislation and
1:23:57
apparently the haters gonna hate
hate hate hate hate.
1:24:01
So I rise to wish Taylor Swift
and all my birthday twins a very
1:24:06
happy birthday, especially
representatives mad and in
1:24:09
major. I know I have had the
best day with you. And I don't
1:24:13
know how it gets better than
this. Everyone's standing around
1:24:16
us singing Happy Birthday to
you. This resolution is a love
1:24:19
story. So baby, let's just say
Yes.
1:24:24
Clerk over core the vote on the
resolution. The yeas are 103,
1:24:28
the nays are 100.
1:24:30
Adam Curry: The resolution is
adaptive. Fantastic. fantasise
1:24:35
Pennsylvania we
1:24:36
John C Dvorak: should mention
that we spotted the Taylor Swift
1:24:39
up
1:24:40
Adam Curry: in 2009
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: or before today,
I do have clips came out of
1:24:48
this. She was being highlighted
as a superstar back in 2008,
1:24:54
maybe
1:24:54
Adam Curry: 2008 When we had
1:24:56
John C Dvorak: some clips of her
you know they they're talking
1:24:59
about her she's just a He had I
think he's just 17 at the time
1:25:01
noodle and she's the next big
thing. And she was she was
1:25:05
talking to the band about
doodling doodling midday to doo
1:25:08
doo doo. And she was showing
them how to put together songs
1:25:11
we have the clip somewhere, I
don't know where they where they
1:25:13
are. And
1:25:15
Adam Curry: these are music
works. Okay, so I know a little
1:25:18
bit about how music and the
business works. And her music
1:25:22
is, but you can't sing but five
of her songs, I'm not talking
1:25:25
about the Swifties who are all
in and completely mind
1:25:28
controlled. Because that's what
it is. But these work at a at a
1:25:33
psychological level. As you
mentioned earlier, four chords
1:25:36
it's I mean, you could these are
all riffs and songs that have
1:25:41
been done before it's hits. As
long as you repeat a song over
1:25:45
and over again, it becomes a
hit. That's just how it works.
1:25:48
As long as as long as it's not
off key and junk. You can make
1:25:52
anything a hit as long as you
repeat it. And Spotify is algos
1:25:57
being everything, it's all and
she'll be unleashed. The Op has
1:26:00
not yet been unleashed. But it
will be and it will be for the
1:26:04
2024 election. I
1:26:07
John C Dvorak: was kind of
skeptical that thesis at the at
1:26:10
the start. But after listening
to this guy, discuss your music
1:26:15
and some other things that are
going on, including your being
1:26:18
Man of the Year for Time
magazine, I use that term
1:26:21
because that's what it was
originally.
1:26:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a lot
of people out there saying that
1:26:25
Taylor Swift is a man, which is
a funny meme. Yeah,
1:26:28
John C Dvorak: I don't buy
1:26:30
Adam Curry: into it either. And
please don't email me, don't
1:26:34
email me with your proof finish.
1:26:38
John C Dvorak: And, but the but
this has been going on for a
1:26:41
long time. And she has been. And
he has concerts and the vendor
1:26:48
and then meet up with Jason
Kelsey, or Travis Kelsey. Sorry.
1:26:55
Adam Curry: From now on, known
as Jason Kelsey.
1:26:57
John C Dvorak: But he could be
Jason. I think Jason's his
1:26:59
brother, so that might not work
out.
1:27:02
Adam Curry: But this is nothing
new artists have been abused for
1:27:06
political reasons forever.
Forever. And Hillary the last
1:27:11
kind of attempt was Hillary with
Beyonce and didn't really work.
1:27:15
John C Dvorak: You know, but and
I don't think this will work
1:27:17
either. To be honest about it. I
don't think there's many there's
1:27:21
memes out there that are already
contradicting the possibility
1:27:26
Adam Curry: the fact that Kara
Swisher was all in on Taylor
1:27:29
Swift tells me it's an OP she's
all jacked about Taylor Swift
1:27:34
she predicted
1:27:34
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift
swift to be jacked about she's
1:27:37
she's a she predicted that
1:27:39
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift will be
person Time Magazine's Person of
1:27:41
the Year, which means she was in
on it because
1:27:44
John C Dvorak: you knew that's
not a prediction you can make
1:27:46
unless you know that let's face
it because
1:27:48
Adam Curry: Reed Hoffman of
LinkedIn is it LinkedIn or is it
1:27:54
to force? Salesforce?
1:27:58
John C Dvorak: No, Reid Hoffman,
I think is LinkedIn. Which I
1:28:01
thought was sold to Microsoft
1:28:03
Adam Curry: anyway. It's he's
he's a very rich, incredibly
1:28:06
liberal dude. He owns Time
Magazine. We know how these
1:28:09
things go. You have a quick
meeting. Here we're gonna make a
1:28:13
Time Magazine Person of the
Year. Well, let's call into DC.
1:28:17
John C Dvorak: This whole you'd
also want to put some feeler you
1:28:20
want to put some test feelers
out there. You have somebody a
1:28:24
stooge, useful idiot come out
and say, Yeah, I can I predict
1:28:28
that Taylor Swift will be the
first of the year. There's just
1:28:32
people don't throw stuff at you
and call you an idiot. Oh,
1:28:35
that's not a bad idea. Then
okay, we'll go ahead with it. It
1:28:40
could have been just a test test
marketing.
1:28:43
Adam Curry: Alright, let's go to
some more sigh up because
1:28:45
there's there's a really fun
seems to be all we talk about.
1:28:48
Yes, there's a fun one. And this
is and because we just talked
1:28:53
about him. He's he had time to
leave the shower and go to meet
1:28:57
the press. Lindsey Graham,
Senator Lindsey Graham of South
1:29:00
Carolina. And, you know, Trump
had Oh, man. Trump had a
1:29:04
horrible, horrible speech. He
said some horrible, horrible
1:29:07
things. Actually, before I go to
him, I'll play. Well, mate,
1:29:13
yeah. Let me play the same. It's
the same topic as CBS Face the
1:29:19
Nation. Margaret Brennan, with
Chris Coons,
1:29:21
Unknown: some of your fellow
Democrats, like Bob Menendez
1:29:23
have said it's shameful and
selling out migrants and asylum
1:29:27
seekers. Why is he wrong?
1:29:30
John C Dvorak: I understand
Senator Menendez passion on the
1:29:33
part of making sure that our
immigration system is safe,
1:29:36
legal and humane. But as I've
often said, in talking about the
1:29:41
campaign for 24, President Biden
needs to be compared not to the
1:29:46
Almighty, not to a perfect
alternative, but to the actual
1:29:49
alternative and you just played
for Congressman Gonzalez, the
1:29:53
stunning, hateful, fascist
rhetoric of former President
1:29:57
Trump when he's talking about
poisoning the Blood of our
1:30:00
nation, the former president
would bring in place, not these
1:30:04
modest changes to asylum policy,
but radical and dramatic changes
1:30:09
to immigration policy. We need
to take seriously that there is
1:30:12
a border security crisis. And we
need to take responsible steps
1:30:16
that reflect our values. Okay,
so
1:30:18
Adam Curry: this is the OP, the
OP is poisoning the blood of
1:30:21
Americans. Let's go back with
the previous guests.
1:30:25
Unknown: I want to bring up
something that we discussed with
1:30:28
our last guest, which was a
remark from Donald Trump
1:30:32
yesterday, and I want to play it
here because I know you have
1:30:35
endorsed Mr. Trump for
president.
1:30:37
They're poisoning the blood of
our country. That's what they've
1:30:40
done. They poison mental
institutions and prisons all
1:30:44
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the
1:30:47
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the
1:30:50
world that coming into our
country, from Africa, from Asia
1:30:55
all over the world.
1:30:56
Do you endorse the sentiment
that immigrants are poisoning
1:30:59
the blood of our country?
1:31:02
I think immigrants are the
lifeblood of our country. And
1:31:05
it's important that we have it
the Republican from Texas
1:31:08
immigrants, I've been a
proponent of legal immigration.
1:31:11
And what this open border crisis
is don't
1:31:14
John C Dvorak: stop. There is a
we have a process called legal
1:31:18
immigration. We'll get to that.
So now all of a sudden, he's a
1:31:21
proponent. Like it's something
new now.
1:31:24
Adam Curry: Screw these guys.
The point we're still on the
1:31:27
poisoning the blood
1:31:28
John C Dvorak: gather. I
Valley's bad boys. Yeah, little
1:31:32
Adam Curry: boys. And
1:31:33
Unknown: what this open border
crisis is done. It's put legal
1:31:36
immigrants to the back of the
line. And it's it's encouraged
1:31:40
illegal immigration, and it's
created this rhetoric, and it's
1:31:43
created this anger. And it's not
just former President Trump. I
1:31:46
mean, in my district, people are
angry, Margaret, all throughout
1:31:49
the country. People are angry
and seeing all this chaos. It's
1:31:53
why it's so important that the
House, the Senate and the
1:31:56
president come together and find
a real solution, a national
1:31:59
security, a national security
package that takes care of our
1:32:02
allies also protects us at home,
not only from foreign threats,
1:32:06
but also internal threats,
because the anger is very real.
1:32:10
I realized that we need to
acknowledge it. But that
1:32:14
phrasing poisoning the blood is
reminiscent of language. The
1:32:19
White House says Hitler used
which is why I wanted to get you
1:32:22
to specifically respond to this.
1:32:25
Adam Curry: So
1:32:26
John C Dvorak: yes, so she only
she was she has a script from
1:32:29
the White House. Is that what
she just told us? Yes.
1:32:31
Adam Curry: And this is the
headline. The headline
1:32:34
everywhere is Trump takes Trump
Donald Trump paraphrases Adolf
1:32:40
Hitler by telling rally that
migrants are poisoning the blood
1:32:44
of our country phrase first
appeared in fewer book mine
1:32:48
calm. So I got my copy out.
1:32:53
John C Dvorak: Good of mine.
I'll have copies of mine calm.
1:32:57
Adam Curry: Everybody should
read. It's like you got to read
1:33:00
the Unabomber manifesto.
1:33:02
John C Dvorak: You should read
the Bible. You should read mine
1:33:04
comp. You should read a lot of
books.
1:33:06
Adam Curry: And there is no
phrase poisoning the blood of
1:33:13
America or Germans. The word
poisoning the
1:33:16
John C Dvorak: blood is what
your poison PDF search. That's
1:33:20
what I would do.
1:33:20
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
doing. I'm doing a search I'm
1:33:21
having right now. Wholesale
poisoning of the public mind
1:33:25
poisoning of the public mind
poisoning of our sexual blood
1:33:28
poisoning. I'm sorry, not sexual
blood. What do you say here? Let
1:33:32
me go back. sexual life
poisoning of the sound instinct
1:33:38
wasting
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: of our sexual
life. The hell's he talking
1:33:41
about?
1:33:42
Adam Curry: Well, let me go
back. Let me see what he was
1:33:43
talking about. These are the
dolphin tragic witnesses to the
1:33:48
steadily increasing scourge that
is poisoning our sexual Well, in
1:33:51
Hitler's days. There was a lot
of transgenderism. You know, a
1:33:56
lot of you know, there are a lot
of gay stuff going that's what
1:34:02
the what the Cabaret is about.
Yeah, the movie cabaret. Yes. So
1:34:08
their sufferings are the visible
results of parental vise. So
1:34:12
he's not saying that they're
poisoning the blood poisoning of
1:34:15
the sound instincts of our
people poisoning the popular
1:34:19
mind use
1:34:20
John C Dvorak: the word
poisoning as though poison is a
1:34:23
synonymous okay, I get it. So
this so there's really shit is
1:34:27
what you're telling. This is
1:34:28
Adam Curry: a lie. It's a lie.
It's a lie. And they can look
1:34:32
how it wasn't that hard for me
to bring up the PDF and do a
1:34:36
little search wasn't hard.
Here's a Good Morning America
1:34:41
Unknown: overnight, FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP facing
1:34:43
swift backlash for his attacks
on immigrants. Former President
1:34:47
Donald Trump campaigning in New
Hampshire sounding as confident
1:34:51
as ever
1:34:51
what happened to the bounce? You
know with Nicki, they talked
1:34:54
about the surge mocking his
1:34:56
GOP primary opponents who he
called backstabbing, established
1:35:00
Schmidt losers for trailing in
the polls. His speech peppered
1:35:03
with personal insults at one
point calling New Hampshire's
1:35:06
popular Republican governor a
quote spoiled brat Governor
1:35:11
Chris Sununu this week endorsing
Nikki Haley, saying she can not
1:35:15
only win his state, but deliver
a Republican landslide. Beyond
1:35:19
his rivals. Trump also upped his
attacks on immigrants with
1:35:23
highly offensive white
nationalist rhetoric, evoking
1:35:26
similar language to Nazi
propaganda about the purity of
1:35:31
this country's, quote, blood.
Everybody first except America,
1:35:35
Trump's crowd full of fervent
fans. Doesn't Trump have your
1:35:40
vote? Yes. Did you consider any
of the other candidates? Also in
1:35:45
the state this weekend, Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis, who
1:35:48
brushed off any idea of joining
a Trump ticket?
1:35:51
You know, I'd rather be governor
than vice president.
1:35:53
No question I didn't he thinks
Trump will try to delegitimize
1:35:56
any results in early still wrong
does not win. If Trump loses
1:36:01
he will say it's stolen no
1:36:03
Adam Curry: matter what. Okay.
All right. So there it is. It's
1:36:05
Nazism. And now everyone who's a
Trump fan can't You can't be a
1:36:10
supporter. You're a fan. You're
a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll
1:36:15
play the bit with the Lindy hat.
Lindy Hop, grey hat. We've got a
1:36:18
reasonably appropriate response
before
1:36:20
Unknown: I let you go. I do want
to get your reaction to that
1:36:23
former President Trump said
overnight, he was in New
1:36:26
Hampshire, he was talking about
the need to keep immigrants out
1:36:30
of this country. Here's what he
said, I'll get your response.
1:36:32
They're
1:36:32
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've
1:36:35
done. They poison mental
institutions.
1:36:37
Adam Curry: Now. What do you
think he means? Let's just stop
1:36:39
for a second. Because he says
this all you have to have to
1:36:42
listen to the whole Trump thing
says the poisoning the blood of
1:36:44
our country. They're poisoning
mental institutions. What
1:36:48
exactly is he really talking
about immigrants here? What does
1:36:53
he mean? Well,
1:36:54
John C Dvorak: I think and I
think for one thing, he's
1:36:59
rambling. Yes. And because he
delays the wedding, random till
1:37:04
institutions, what's he talking
about? I think he's talking
1:37:08
about immigrants coming in and
kind of upsetting the mechanism
1:37:17
of state.
1:37:18
Adam Curry: I think he's just
overloading is what I think he
1:37:20
means. Oh, yeah. Overloading? I
1:37:21
John C Dvorak: think that would
be yes, we're loading
1:37:23
overloading.
1:37:24
Adam Curry: But no, because the
word is poisoning the blood and
1:37:28
all they're not know your
airways race
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: and the word
blood, obviously, Nazi
1:37:35
Adam Curry: Aryan race, white
nationalists to keep
1:37:38
Unknown: immigrants out of this
country. Here's what he said,
1:37:40
I'll get your response. They're
1:37:41
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've
1:37:44
done. They poisoned mental
institutions and prisons all
1:37:48
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the
1:37:50
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the
1:37:54
world that coming into our
country from Africa, from Asia
1:37:58
all over the world.
1:38:00
The Biden campaign has accused
former President Trump of quote,
1:38:04
parroting Adolf Hitler
1:38:06
Adam Curry: and interesting
she's said the White House she
1:38:08
says the Biden campaign, so at
least he's a little more honest
1:38:11
about it, but it's coming from
the White House.
1:38:14
Unknown: What is your reaction
are the President's comments,
1:38:16
representative? Have you and
other Republicans feel 76%
1:38:21
of the American people, not
Donald Trump bleed the borders
1:38:24
broken? They're worried about
that. No coming over killing
1:38:27
them.
1:38:27
But what about his language?
Just that language that
1:38:30
poisoning the blind? Yeah,
1:38:32
no. I'm worried about an
outcome. He is right to what he
1:38:36
had the border secured the
lowest in 40 years in December
1:38:40
of 2020. To the Biden
administration. You're talking
1:38:43
about Donald Trump's language as
you sit on the sidelines and
1:38:46
allowed the country to be
invaded. 172 people on the
1:38:50
terrorist watch list have come
on your watch fentanyl is
1:38:53
killing Americans, Senator
anytime it
1:38:55
goes from language just on the
language.
1:38:57
Adam Curry: Let's get to the
Nazi party.
1:38:59
Unknown: I want to get your
response you have endorsed
1:39:00
former President Trump are you
comfortable on
1:39:03
John C Dvorak: top? What show is
this? And who is that woman?
1:39:06
Adam Curry: This is Kristen
Welker. This is the Welker she's
1:39:09
terrible. The new face to face
depress nation, but
1:39:12
John C Dvorak: he doesn't
listen. I never thought she she
1:39:15
had her own little show on NBC.
They all have this these test
1:39:18
shows that Dave people don't
know at NBC as like, Can new
1:39:21
shows. They're all exactly the
same with the same stories, but
1:39:25
they're all done by different
people. Tom Yamas has one Yeah,
1:39:27
but Kristen, welcome. Well,
welcome
1:39:30
Adam Curry: to the black. She's
more brown.
1:39:34
John C Dvorak: She's a multi
CultI looking, but she was okay
1:39:40
reading you know, teleprompter.
She was fine. But this is an
1:39:43
example of someone who doesn't
listen.
1:39:45
Adam Curry: Now her job is to
press this sentence. That's what
1:39:49
you hear God says says no good.
1:39:54
John C Dvorak: I did not think
she was going to be good when
1:39:56
she took this job. She just
1:39:57
Adam Curry: wanted specifically
poisoning the blood sure is that
1:40:01
not in mind calm? Is that not
Nazi talk right there? Is he not
1:40:06
the reincarnation of Adolf
Hitler himself sir. This is a
1:40:09
senator invaded
1:40:10
Unknown: 172 people on the
terrorist watch list of come on
1:40:14
your watch fentanyl is
1:40:15
Adam Curry: killing. Here's this
she's like a cicada since
1:40:18
allowed the country
1:40:19
Unknown: to be invaded 172
people on the terrorist watch
1:40:23
lists have come on your watch
fentanyl is killing Americans
1:40:26
Senator any German
1:40:28
language just on the language
though I want to get your
1:40:30
respect you have endorsed former
President Trump. Are you
1:40:33
comfortable? Do
1:40:33
Adam Curry: you endorse a Nazi?
With him using
1:40:37
Unknown: words like that?
1:40:39
Adam Curry: Man, this is so old.
This is Hello 2015. We're
1:40:43
Unknown: talking about language.
I could care less what language
1:40:48
people use as long as we get it
right. Live in legal
1:40:52
immigration. I have no animosity
toward people trying to come to
1:40:56
our country. I have animosity
against terrorists and against
1:40:59
drug dealers. But I understand
why people want to come to
1:41:02
America, but we have chaos. And
we need to create order if you
1:41:06
think you're going to win the
debate on illegal immigration.
1:41:09
But picking a line out of the
Trump speech. Most Americans
1:41:12
understand the game has to
change that we're under threat
1:41:16
that we're gonna get attacked,
that our borders completely been
1:41:19
obliterated. So if you're
talking about the language Trump
1:41:23
uses rather than trying to fix
it, that's a losing strategy for
1:41:26
the Biden administration. Now
1:41:27
Adam Curry: I have the Wow, he's
good.
1:41:31
John C Dvorak: Let's face it.
Like he did? He's an old pro.
1:41:35
That is not going to be no he's
not really now the worst and
1:41:39
Welker, who's an idiot,
1:41:40
Adam Curry: now it's time for a
shower. Now, I have a minute of
1:41:47
the Trump speech and I have an
issue with his language because
1:41:50
we know what the problem is. The
problem is, this administration
1:41:54
has told the Department of
Homeland Security, catch and
1:41:57
release let them go. It's
policy. It is not, I repeat, it
1:42:01
is not the wall. It is you
doesn't matter how big the wall
1:42:07
is or how high the fence is. If
people can come in and they have
1:42:12
either an app that says you're
good to go, which is how they're
1:42:15
coming in through airports. Yep.
Or you can get a ride. You just
1:42:20
wait. There's no way to put an
entire big beautiful wall that
1:42:23
keeps everybody out. Once you
get in. If if there's no
1:42:27
repercussion, people will keep
coming. I got a shot. And then
1:42:32
and of course, our own. Our own
people who now run the
1:42:36
international office of of
immigration at the United
1:42:40
Nations are giving the prepaid
debit cards, you got the buses,
1:42:44
the only you just gotta cross
the Rio Grande that last bit
1:42:47
you'll get wet. Don't worry
about it. And you can see it
1:42:49
people are showing up. They've
got clean clothes, everything's
1:42:52
good to go. Nice. Backpack
backpack, you just gotta get in.
1:42:56
And once you're in, it's a
policy you're in. You're in is
1:43:00
it's about parole. It's like the
disco. But Trump, this is I had
1:43:06
this is my issue with Trump. I
don't understand why he doesn't
1:43:10
call out what it is. This
actually this this speech,
1:43:14
because that's, that's the gross
offense here. He's treating
1:43:17
people like they're morons and
1:43:19
Unknown: a lot of work to do.
You know, when they let, I think
1:43:22
the real number is 15 16 million
people into our country. When
1:43:25
they do that we got a lot of
work to do. They're poisoning
1:43:29
the blood of our country. That's
what they've done. They poisoned
1:43:32
mental institutions and prisons
all over the world, not just in
1:43:36
South America, not just the
three or four countries that we
1:43:39
think about. But all over the
world that coming into our
1:43:43
country from Africa from Asia
all over the world they're
1:43:46
pouring into our country
nobody's even looking at him
1:43:49
they just come in the crime is
going to be tremendous. The
1:43:52
terrorism is going to be
terrorism is going to be no we
1:43:56
built a tremendous piece of the
wall and then we're going to
1:43:58
build more and the election was
rigged and we didn't do it but I
1:44:03
figured that just throw it up
would have taken three weeks it
1:44:05
was all built there was already
to be just hoisted up the exact
1:44:09
wall that the Border Patrol who
are incredible Brandon Judd and
1:44:13
all people Border Patrol. That's
exactly what they designed. They
1:44:17
had the anti climb bars and
everything. And you know what
1:44:21
they did? They didn't want it to
go up. They sold it for five
1:44:24
cents on the dollar. Can you
believe it? All of that stuff?
1:44:27
Is
1:44:27
very sad.
1:44:30
Adam Curry: It's just
irrelevant. That's not the
1:44:32
problem. People know they can
come because it's you're good to
1:44:36
go. You're not going to get in
trouble. It's not the wall. No,
1:44:39
I'm a little sick of that. He
used to change that message.
1:44:42
Because just as this you know,
come on. They're smarter people.
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: He dropped a
Mexico's gonna pay for it. Yeah,
1:44:49
that was
1:44:49
Adam Curry: also dumb. That was
a loser. Meanwhile, something we
1:44:53
missed in the National Defense
Authorization Act.
1:44:57
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's
more than all
1:44:59
Adam Curry: coming Now we missed
the big one
1:45:01
Unknown: Congress approving a
bill preventing any US president
1:45:04
from withdrawing from NATO,
without approval from the Senate
1:45:07
or an act of Congress. measures
included in the recently passed
1:45:11
National Defense Authorization
Act. Democratic Senator Tim
1:45:14
Kaine and Republican Senator
Marco Rubio spearheaded that
1:45:18
bill, which marks Congress's
commitment to the NATO alliance.
1:45:21
Adam Curry: Big miss. Okay,
thanks, Rubio.
1:45:24
John C Dvorak: Wow, you know
what that tells me? Trump's
1:45:27
gonna be our next president.
Pretty sure part of the overall
1:45:32
the they're lining stuff up.
Yep. They're just sort hit
1:45:36
thwart word. The word I want
1:45:38
Adam Curry: to warn was his, his
motive.
1:45:41
John C Dvorak: Okay, he's going
to be president. We're going to,
1:45:44
you know, we're going to see oh,
by the way, I got a note from
1:45:47
one of our producers who sent $1
bill with it. Oh, yeah. Taking
1:45:53
part in my game, which is who's
pick the Vice President? And I
1:45:57
thought he had a good one. Ben
Carson. No, no, no, I liked the
1:46:02
idea of Ben Carson.
1:46:04
Adam Curry: I'm staying with he
was loyal to Trump.
1:46:07
John C Dvorak: He never quit. He
didn't backstab me didn't write
1:46:10
a book. He's smart. And he's was
once a presidential candidate
1:46:14
himself. I like Ben Carson is a
vice VP. He's
1:46:18
Adam Curry: not even on the
list. yet. I'm sticking with
1:46:21
Elise. I think she I think
she's, she's nice. Yeah. The
1:46:26
daughter. Know, though. The only
way I can remember her name from
1:46:31
New York. No, the one who, who
jealous. Panic. Yeah, the one
1:46:34
who jacked up the university
president. Yeah, she's
1:46:37
John C Dvorak: still she's at,
she's doing good. work,
1:46:41
Adam Curry: and play. She's in
play. There's another thing is
1:46:44
kind of a now C span we have one
of our producers, he loyally
1:46:51
sends in every single between
shows, he sends in C span
1:46:55
callers. And,
1:46:58
John C Dvorak: but just to be my
beat, I might add, well,
1:47:01
Adam Curry: you know, you don't
treat people with kindness. And
1:47:03
you know, you block them. And,
and they go away. So they come
1:47:07
to me. Of course, they also
think I'm your assistant, your
1:47:11
intern. Tell John, this. This is
a new conspiracy launched from
1:47:18
the Democrat line. I love this
conspiracy. Next up,
1:47:22
Unknown: let's hear from Kathy
and Satellite Beach, Florida. On
1:47:25
our democratic line. Yes, I have
a question about the binder of
1:47:31
raw Russian data that's been
missing since Trump left office.
1:47:37
It's about 10 inches thick, full
of all the raw data that America
1:47:42
has collected on sources and
methods and everything. And the
1:47:49
reason I bring it up is because
I've always wondered why Ivana
1:47:54
Trump's casket had pin
pallbearers When Princess
1:47:58
Diana's lead line casket only
had six, I mean, that casket had
1:48:05
to have been hugely heavy. And
with all the missing boxes of
1:48:10
secret documents that everybody
keeps talking about, I think
1:48:14
that they need to go to the golf
course where Trump had her
1:48:18
buried and just take a look say
just out of curiosity, I want to
1:48:22
know where that binder of raw
Russian excuse me information
1:48:29
went.
1:48:31
Adam Curry: Okay, Alton, is I
love it, dig her up. Dig her up.
1:48:37
This is the best Trump buried do
it to eventually you watch. Oh,
1:48:42
it's coming Trump. This is it
Trump buried the Russian
1:48:46
documents that show all the
collusion buried it with Ivanka,
1:48:51
dig her up. Meanwhile, the real
news is this former top
1:48:58
Unknown: FBI counterintelligence
official faces five years in
1:49:01
prison after pleading guilty to
working with a Russian oligarch
1:49:04
he wants investigated. Charles
McGonigal admitted he accepted
1:49:08
more than $17,000 from Oleg
Deripaska mechanical lead the
1:49:12
FBI is Counterintelligence
division between 2016 and
1:49:16
2018 $17,000.
1:49:20
John C Dvorak: Are you kidding
me? That's nothing. I know. But
1:49:24
he from an oligarch I know. But
you know,
1:49:27
Adam Curry: he this guy was a
part of Operation crossfire.
1:49:31
This guy was a part of it. The
guys who were accusing Trump of
1:49:37
being in collusion. Yeah.
1:49:39
John C Dvorak: And he was in
collusion.
1:49:43
Adam Curry: This guy was
completely in collusion come
1:49:45
Yeah,
1:49:45
John C Dvorak: even though he's
a bid some people think is
1:49:47
basically just a Russian spy and
it was 70,000 is a bullshit
1:49:51
number anyway. I
1:49:52
Adam Curry: mean, that's they
all that's in there, so that we
1:49:57
don't talk about it. Go away. Go
away News. Hey, dig up, dig her
1:50:01
up that you watch dig her up.
It's gonna be a chant. Dig her
1:50:06
pick her
1:50:07
John C Dvorak: up. Dig her up.
1:50:10
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. NPR
is very upset that I love this
1:50:13
lady. I love this lady. She's
very upset about how the media
1:50:18
is covering Trump. They're not
doing it right. You're doing it
1:50:21
all wrong. This has been a a
theme amongst journalists that
1:50:26
we're not doing it. We're doing
it all wrong. We're going to
1:50:28
help them win again.
1:50:30
Unknown: I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and
this is a Sunday story. And the
1:50:35
fourth and final Republican
debate on December 6, Governor
1:50:39
Chris Christie addressed the
elephant in the room. Him He
1:50:43
warned Americans of what may
come if Donald Trump gets
1:50:46
reelected president.
1:50:49
Let me make it clear. His
conduct is unacceptable. He's
1:50:52
unfit and be careful what you're
gonna get. If you ever got
1:50:56
another Donald Trump term, he's
letting you know, I am your
1:51:00
retribution. You will only be
Elizabeth. He will only be his
1:51:03
own retribution. He doesn't care
for the American people. It's
1:51:06
Donald Trump.
1:51:07
First. How to cover Trump is I
think you're right. I
1:51:10
Adam Curry: think that was a dig
by saying the elephant in the
1:51:12
room for Chris Christie. I think
that was one of those intimate
1:51:16
John C Dvorak: journalistic
puns.
1:51:20
Adam Curry: That shame
attribution.
1:51:22
Unknown: He doesn't care for the
American people. It's Donald
1:51:24
Trump. By
1:51:25
John C Dvorak: the way, hold on.
What was the that was the what
1:51:28
was there? No elephant in the
room.
1:51:30
Adam Curry: The Trump wasn't
there. That was the elephant in
1:51:33
the room. Well, that's
1:51:34
John C Dvorak: an elephant not
in the room by
1:51:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. How to
1:51:37
Unknown: cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the
1:51:40
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 haunted
1:51:43
Adam Curry: the media, oh, the
media is haunted. We're
1:51:46
journalists were trained to Jay
school were haunted. We don't
1:51:50
know how to do it. A
1:51:51
Unknown: 2018 study
1:51:52
John C Dvorak: show a lot of
second this stuff. I need to do
1:51:55
this. So no, I love it. I love
it when you do but it just seems
1:51:58
to me that this is like a rebuke
of journalism. Why should it be
1:52:04
haunted about anything that
reporters are supposed to report
1:52:08
the news not not be in the news
and the news and that's you
1:52:13
shouldn't be haunted by the
results of their reporting.
1:52:17
Adam Curry: Perhaps you should
take another J school course and
1:52:19
see what they're teaching these
journalists should
1:52:21
John C Dvorak: they're teaching
something I'm unfamiliar with
1:52:23
how
1:52:24
Unknown: to cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the
1:52:26
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 surprise when a
1:52:31
2018 study showed that Trump
received around $2 billion in
1:52:35
free media we got substantially
more coverage than his opponents
1:52:40
aiming his campaign. Now Trump
is dominating headlines again as
1:52:44
he faces federal indictments and
civil lawsuits while campaigning
1:52:48
at the same time,
1:52:50
Adam Curry: making every This
isn't by the way, this is a
1:52:52
great edit. I did not do this,
but they pan left and right with
1:52:57
all of his crazy talk. I'm
making
1:53:00
Unknown: every executive branch
employee fireable by the
1:53:04
President, as I said, I will
keep men out of women's sports
1:53:08
and I will sign a law
prohibiting child sexual
1:53:12
mutilation we will root out the
communist Marxist fascist and
1:53:18
the radical left thugs that
lives like vermin within the
1:53:21
confines of our country will
carry out the largest domestic
1:53:25
deportation operation in
American history.
1:53:30
My other job is host of Weekend
Edition Sunday, I did an
1:53:34
interview recently, that really
made me think about Trump and
1:53:39
how we cover him as journalist.
1:53:43
Adam Curry: I want to share as
journalist, this, you're missing
1:53:46
it as darling journalist.
1:53:49
Unknown: I wanted to share it
with you, I spoke with two
1:53:51
people who believe the media is
failing in the way it's
1:53:56
reporting on Trump and Warren,
these failures put our democracy
1:54:00
at risk
1:54:01
Adam Curry: a mockery of
democracy, our democracy got
1:54:05
destroyed with the Patriot Act,
lady, here we go associate. This
1:54:09
was a 25 minute program. I just
pulled two other clips. Here's a
1:54:13
douche who writes for The
Atlantic. And this is his view
1:54:16
of what we should do. I
1:54:19
Unknown: I've got a pretty
pessimistic outlook on this
1:54:22
because I think that what's
happening with Trump is that a
1:54:24
lot of the things that he's
doing, both in terms of what
1:54:27
he's posting on truth, social is
social media network. And what
1:54:30
he's saying at rallies, is not
cutting through to the ordinary
1:54:33
voter. And that's important
because some of the stuff he's
1:54:35
saying is the most extreme
rhetoric of any presidential
1:54:38
candidate in the last four or
five, six decades. So I'll give
1:54:42
you an example of this. There
was a rally in October where
1:54:45
Trump floated the idea of
shooting shoplifters on site, so
1:54:50
anyone who commits a petty crime
as killed it's an extrajudicial
1:54:53
killing that the leading
contender for the Republican
1:54:55
nomination floated, and right
after that he floated the idea
1:54:58
of joking about it I'm Paul
Pelosi being nearly beaten to
1:55:02
death of a hammer. And there was
no coverage of this for three
1:55:05
days in the New York Times, at
which point it appeared on page
1:55:08
14.
1:55:09
Adam Curry: So here he is
complaining about the broken
1:55:11
elite messaging system, the New
York Times and New York Times is
1:55:15
doing it wrong.
1:55:16
Unknown: And I think what the
press is doing is it's thinking,
1:55:19
people know, Trump says crazy
stuff lots of the time. And
1:55:22
that's fine. But it's still very
important that they see it,
1:55:25
because, you know, there's
another bit of rhetoric he
1:55:27
recently posted on tweet social,
where he effectively implied
1:55:31
that the former top general of
United States Mark Milley
1:55:34
deserve to be executed. And, you
know, that is one of the most
1:55:37
unbelievable things that a
president could say one of the
1:55:40
most extreme things. It was not
covered in most of the press.
1:55:43
And I think that is a real
failing, where we're not
1:55:46
understanding the scale of the
threat that Trump poses because
1:55:49
it's been baked in as sort of
what I call the banality and
1:55:52
crazy that it's so routine that
is not generating headlines,
1:55:55
Adam Curry: this guy is giving
them the exact wrong advice.
1:55:59
Yeah, I
1:55:59
John C Dvorak: agree. He's
saying the opposite of what
1:56:02
should be done. So now let's go
back to just given Trump
1:56:06
whatever crazy thing Trump says,
push it. Is this
1:56:09
Adam Curry: is so dumb, okay,
then we have to do shit from The
1:56:12
Guardian. So I think that
1:56:14
Unknown: newsroom leaders need
to be and maybe they're doing
1:56:17
this, you know, maybe some
newsroom
1:56:19
Adam Curry: leaders, leaders
leader I call the editor isn't
1:56:22
called the editor or you
1:56:23
John C Dvorak: I guess, yeah.
1:56:25
Adam Curry: But must be right.
1:56:27
Unknown: So I think that
newsroom leaders need to be and
1:56:31
maybe they're doing this, you
know, maybe some of them are
1:56:33
doing it. And maybe they're
doing it a little. But I think
1:56:36
they need to get our staffs and
their staffs in general, and
1:56:41
talk about what I wrote my
column about we we, the public
1:56:47
is not getting the importance of
this election. They're not
1:56:51
getting what the stakes and the
consequences are.
1:56:54
Adam Curry: They don't get it.
You're stupid. You don't get it
1:56:56
people you don't understand you
don't get it. You're not
1:56:58
listening to us. We've got to
ratchet it up. You don't get it,
1:57:01
you don't get it.
1:57:02
Unknown: How can we go about?
How can we go about changing
1:57:06
that? How can we get across the
extreme nature of this by just
1:57:12
reporting and you know, it has
to do with emphasis it has to do
1:57:16
with where you put stories, what
kind of articles you do what the
1:57:20
headlines are, but we're still
sort of stuck in an old way of
1:57:25
covering both sides, trying very
hard to make sure that no one
1:57:29
ever says that we're partisan
and trying to be partisan. It
1:57:33
calls for a rethinking in
newsrooms of how to communicate
1:57:38
to our readers and viewers.
1:57:40
John C Dvorak: I like to comment
on this. Yes, please. Now,
1:57:44
historically, reporting was
always partisan. Yes. That's why
1:57:50
you had like a newspaper in
Santa Rosa, the press Democrat.
1:57:55
There we at the Oakland Tribune
used to be a Republican
1:57:58
newspaper. There's one up in New
Hampshire that's notoriously a
1:58:02
Republican or was a notoriously
Republican newsletter, or
1:58:05
newspaper, I'm sorry,
newsletter, newspaper. And these
1:58:08
newspapers were very partisan.
And they took a perspective and
1:58:11
a point of view. And that's why
journalism schools appeared
1:58:15
because it was getting to the
point where they somebody
1:58:18
decided that it's not a good
thing. So they went to, you
1:58:22
know, teaching people how to do
that. I say, have three people
1:58:25
quoted, you got to have both
sides of the story. You got to
1:58:28
do this, scatter that. And it
just naturally gravitates
1:58:32
because I can find Mastodon
tweets, or tweets, whatever
1:58:38
they're called, have all kinds
of journalists that have all
1:58:40
scampered away from Twitter. And
they've gone to their own little
1:58:43
hole hovels, and they're all
talking about you, we can't let
1:58:47
Trump win we have to do this. We
have to do that. And if you
1:58:51
remember that journos, journos
little room or banner used group
1:58:57
whatever the hell it was, it was
a meeting me up space we talked
1:59:01
about on the show back in the
day, where they were the
1:59:04
Democrat, a journalist would all
get together and grouse. That
1:59:08
was supposed to be eliminated.
It's it gravitates right back
1:59:12
toward it. And there is nobody
that's on the Republican side
1:59:15
except for Fox News. Then there
were not even good Republicans
1:59:19
Adam Curry: voted on by
Democrats. Yeah, yeah. But it's
1:59:26
the whole system's broken
doesn't work anymore. People
1:59:29
like this. They want tick tock.
They want you know, quick hits,
1:59:32
they want to see this boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
1:59:34
boom, boom. Now we're all we're
all highly malleable. Give me
1:59:37
some dopamine. Give me something
and I want to own the libs. I
1:59:42
want to post the memes. I know I
see it. This is what's
1:59:45
happening. This is what's
happening. People are out of
1:59:47
control. By the way, there's so
much talk about Trump. You know,
1:59:53
if he is reelected, oh, my
goodness. I mean, that will be
1:59:57
the end of democracy, the end of
the world. World is no, no, it's
2:00:00
no democracy, where democracy is
done. Of course, we have a
2:00:04
republic. And we have a very
interesting system. Yes, we, as
2:00:08
a republic, let's get that
straight. You have a very
2:00:10
interesting system when it comes
to the presidential election,
2:00:15
which is the electoral college.
And we've discussed this many
2:00:20
times on the show, I think it's,
but I'll play this clip of Bill
2:00:24
and Hillary Clinton. And then we
should probably just run through
2:00:28
one more time, what the
electoral college is for why it
2:00:32
was put in place, and why it is
important. But first, let's
2:00:36
listen to those bastions of
democracy. Bill and Hillary
2:00:41
Clinton, you know, it's funny, I
saw them on stage together. This
2:00:44
is at a Bloomberg conference
about a month and a half ago.
2:00:49
And it took me it took me like
20 minutes before I remembered,
2:00:54
oh, yeah, they're married. It
was just like two separate
2:00:56
people. I don't even connect
them as a couple anymore. It's
2:01:00
very weird. It starts off with
Bill, do you
2:01:03
Unknown: think direct election
of the President, popular vote
2:01:06
would be preferable to the
Electoral College method, we
2:01:09
adopted the Electoral College,
when we were 13 states. But it
2:01:14
also helped to load up the
electoral votes of the southern
2:01:21
states that had slaves. Now we
know that the effect of the
2:01:26
electoral college is to give
about 36 extra votes to the most
2:01:33
culturally conservative and for
this dried American states. And
2:01:41
I have no objection to them
voting, I want them all to vote,
2:01:44
I would not unlike some of them.
I've never tried to make it
2:01:46
harder for him to vote, I'd make
it easier for him to vote, a lot
2:01:50
the votes counted, and a
waterfall account, but I just
2:01:53
don't think you can justify that
today.
2:01:57
I assume you prefer direct
election as well.
2:02:00
Adam Curry: Oh, I definitely
prefer. So they're anti
2:02:06
constitutionalists. Yeah. And I
think we should because they did
2:02:10
a very poor job. They said, Oh,
is because you know, the
2:02:13
Republicans or, you know, the
conservative states. Of course,
2:02:17
you know, that's switched. But
no, it's the states in the South
2:02:21
was racist. They had slaves and
they were going to win because
2:02:23
they counted the slaves. That's
why it was the Electoral
2:02:25
College. Is that the truth, our
constitutional experts work, I
2:02:30
John C Dvorak: mean, that you
can make that I think that
2:02:32
argument can be made. But I
don't think that's the real
2:02:35
argument that recent Electoral
College was put together, it was
2:02:38
to prevent a big states that
overpopulated states, The New
2:02:43
York's and counties nobody liked
at the time. And the Phillies
2:02:46
note that New Yorkers were hated
because they were Dutch, I think
2:02:50
is the reason you gotta hate
those guys. And it was the so
2:02:53
they didn't run roughshod over
the little states like Rhode
2:02:57
Island and Delaware and Vermont,
and the rest of America. So they
2:03:01
tried to give him create an even
footing, because it was so eat
2:03:05
because the big states were
corrupt. They had the corrupt
2:03:09
policies that corrupt
politicians. And the idea was,
2:03:12
you know, once in a while,
you're gonna get a situation
2:03:14
where the majority of people are
going to vote for the corrupt
2:03:18
guy, and this will keep that
from from that person from
2:03:21
getting in office. I Hillary
being the best example that
2:03:24
recently. Yes,
2:03:25
Adam Curry: and exactly. It was
a an escape hatch in case some
2:03:30
nut job was about to come to
power.
2:03:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
that I think that rationale is
2:03:37
more accurate now than the other
one. And then the other thing
2:03:41
is, I've written this opinion,
good Divorce Act, that substack
2:03:44
that come and read my article
about this. I've said that over
2:03:49
time, the Electoral College has
to go, because it advertised
2:03:55
does not fairly distribute
advertising dollars throughout
2:03:59
the country. During presidential
elections, the only states to
2:04:03
get the advertising dollars are
those swing states that are
2:04:06
going to determine who wins in
the Electoral College. And this
2:04:10
is unfair to the media outlets
in California and New York,
2:04:16
don't get any money because
they're gonna vote Democrat. So
2:04:20
why are we going to give them
any money to do advertising? So
2:04:23
we, in fact, when you're out
here, you see during the
2:04:26
presidential campaigning, you
see nothing no ads, there's like
2:04:30
breasts like there's not even an
event. And so they so because of
2:04:34
that, I think that the media
will continue to promote the
2:04:38
idea of abolishing it. Yes. But
that's a completely that's a
2:04:45
outlier position that I taken,
and I still believe it. No, I'm
2:04:49
Adam Curry: with you. I like
that explanation. That's why the
2:04:52
media keeps promoting it.
2:04:55
John C Dvorak: There otherwise
why would they care? You had a
2:04:57
Adam Curry: clip this past
veterans They actually was a
2:05:01
twofer clip. I mean, it was
President Biden speaking on
2:05:06
Veterans Day. Do you remember
these clips? If I hear him I
2:05:12
probably would. You'll remember
this one this 44 second clip,
2:05:16
you'll remember it hit
2:05:17
Unknown: Biden administration on
Friday announcing three steps to
2:05:20
improve the life of America's
veterans ahead of Saturday's
2:05:24
Veterans Day. First is expanding
no cost health care to all
2:05:28
living World War Two veterans,
eligible vets will be able to
2:05:31
claim those benefits starting
this month. This includes
2:05:34
nursing home care, some veterans
who suffer from Parkinson's
2:05:38
disease will also be eligible
for free health care.
2:05:41
Adam Curry: So this report, and
the President did say that he
2:05:45
said, we will have free care for
World War Two veterans, there's
2:05:50
only about 250,000 of them left.
Amazing. It's that many. And we
2:05:55
got a boots on the ground report
from one of our producers, who
2:05:58
says a few weeks ago, my family
was excited to hear on your
2:06:01
show, the President Biden had
announced free nursing home care
2:06:05
for all World War Two veterans.
My wife's 96 year old
2:06:10
grandfather is a world war two
veteran who landed in Nagasaki
2:06:13
about two weeks after the bomb
dropped. He is currently in a
2:06:16
facility that's not so great.
And we were excited the prospect
2:06:19
of him moving into better care
despite his limited funds. After
2:06:24
was put on a waitlist for the
local five star VA facility, I
2:06:28
decided to do more research.
That's when I found out it's all
2:06:31
a lie. The VA secretly updated
the announcement to say that
2:06:36
only certain World War Two
veterans were eligible. My
2:06:41
wife's grandfather is not one of
them. So they indeed they
2:06:45
updated this to say, update to
the release. nursing home care
2:06:50
is free for nearly all World War
Two veterans who are eligible
2:06:55
for nursing home services at VA
including one anyone in need of
2:06:59
such care for a service
connected disability. And to
2:07:04
anyone in need of such care who
also has a service connected
2:07:07
disability rated at 70% or more.
That is such I mean, that's low
2:07:16
even for Biden. That's low. I
mean, come on. It's a quarter of
2:07:21
a million dudes. And you're
going to do that. I thought that
2:07:26
was just that.
2:07:28
John C Dvorak: This discussion
broke my heart. It broke my
2:07:30
heart. Well, yeah.
2:07:33
Adam Curry: And how long? How
long is it gonna be a year? Two
2:07:36
years. Really? How long is it
gonna last? So I, I just bought
2:07:43
John C Dvorak: this sort of
thing that we're getting from
2:07:45
these guys. And that's why I
brought it bitched and moaned
2:07:48
earlier about the fact that
we're pumping more oil than ever
2:07:51
before and making it seem that
Oh, no, no, we're very
2:07:54
environmentally conscious. Oh,
yeah. Cop 28 Blah, blah, blah.
2:07:59
And then Trump laws right,
justice, blah, blah, blah. And
2:08:03
so Trump, you know, is wrong.
I'm gonna drill drill drill
2:08:06
word, that's what we're doing.
But nobody. Democrats are just
2:08:12
terrible people.
2:08:15
Adam Curry: It's a terrible
team. I'm not. They may be okay,
2:08:18
people. They're just in a bad
environment. You gotta You gotta
2:08:22
love them. You can't just dig
her up. That's all I got.
2:08:27
John C Dvorak: That's what I
mean. That's a good example.
2:08:30
Adam Curry: For take the break.
A fun little moment happened on
2:08:33
the view. It's always funny when
these things take place. Of
2:08:36
course they are running, running
interference for President
2:08:39
Biden. You know, he's just a
good dad. He just has a crappy
2:08:43
son. Come on. Stop already. And
Anand Aveiro. Well, she drops a
2:08:48
canard of epic proportions.
2:08:50
Unknown: Hunter Biden. Yes. I
think he's engaged in
2:08:52
corruption. I do think that the
charges against him by the
2:08:54
Department of Justice are very
serious. I have not seen one
2:08:57
shred of evidence that it's tied
to Joe Biden. Yeah, that's what
2:08:59
it comes down to to me. And by
the way, someone who's No, no
2:09:02
Joe Biden fan. Steve Doocy. On
Fox News has been hammering
2:09:07
James Comey. Give me one thing,
one piece of evidence otherwise
2:09:10
it's a waste of taxpayer
dollars.
2:09:11
Joe Biden's crime is being
Hunter Biden's father and being
2:09:15
hunted by this very loving
father. Very good father very
2:09:19
supportive. Father, father. Did
Hunter Biden influence peddle on
2:09:23
his last name? Yes, he did. So
did half of Washington. People
2:09:27
sitting at this table did it?
Did Joe did Hunter Biden. Biden.
2:09:36
Did Hunter Biden cheat on his
taxes? Yes, he did. At this
2:09:41
table peddled. Oh no, I did not
talking about currently. Oh, we
2:09:46
just tried to clear our name.
2:09:49
Do I have a claim to fame?
Sorry. Back to my point, please.
2:09:54
Yes. Yeah. We've cleared it up.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Did he
2:10:00
Use his last name to make money
to Mark did he monetize on Joe
2:10:03
Biden's last name? Yes he did.
That's not a crime. Did your
2:10:06
Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes?
Yes, he did say he has admitted
2:10:10
it. He paid it back. He paid it
back with $600,000 penalty.
2:10:14
Adam Curry: I just love it when
the truth comes out. It always
2:10:16
wants to come out. Influence
paddlers. Those ladies
2:10:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used
to the the I loved over time
2:10:26
horn or whatever that is the
Google came over to a hockey
2:10:30
game.
2:10:31
Adam Curry: I love it. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for
2:10:33
your courage in the morning to
you the man who put two C's in
2:10:36
the obesogenic environment
ladies and gentlemen say hello
2:10:40
to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. John
2:10:47
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr.
and Karina morning O'Shaughnessy
2:10:49
boots on the ground feeding the
air subs into one of the games
2:10:51
nights up there and in
2:10:53
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls. Trolls hands go look at
2:11:00
you go. They're so tiny. It's
hard to count them all. I count
2:11:04
2037 Trolls today in the troll
room? How was that? Is that
2:11:10
That's 400
2:11:11
John C Dvorak: low and
2:11:12
Adam Curry: you say that but
this just get ready to the it's
2:11:14
the new normal. Just just I
mean, how
2:11:18
John C Dvorak: is the time that
we do the count? I think people
2:11:21
do slowly move away.
2:11:25
Adam Curry: They move away on to
what bigger and better things
2:11:28
John C Dvorak: to what he
breakfast,
2:11:32
Adam Curry: please. Oh like a
drive. Go
2:11:34
John C Dvorak: to the store. do
some shopping. It's Christmas
2:11:36
shopping season. Everyone's out
shopping. It is traffic is
2:11:39
jammed up. People are driving
around like maniacs.
2:11:41
Adam Curry: You'd think there
was shopping there shopping.
2:11:44
Economy is great. There's
nothing wrong. There's nothing
2:11:46
going on. But people must be
must be loading up their credit
2:11:49
cards. How can it be anything
else who has money, the prices
2:11:52
are too high. The rents too
high. It's impossible. It's
2:11:56
impossible. Anyway, we do love
our trolls. This is a great
2:12:01
opportunity for you to let it
all hang out. Just join us live
2:12:06
as you can. On show days
Thursdays and Sundays. We do it
2:12:10
live we start at 1pm Central
time that's to Eastern and you
2:12:17
can go to troll room.io this,
it's really it's just a simple
2:12:20
old chat room. It's me. It's an
IRC based chat room. You can
2:12:24
stay logged in all the time. A
lot of people do that. Because
2:12:27
of course no agenda stream rolls
out and people are responding to
2:12:31
that. So we have lots of live
shows. Darren O'Neil does the
2:12:36
show. Did you listen to Darren
show this morning? No, I
2:12:38
John C Dvorak: missed it today.
How was it that it was a
2:12:41
terrible as usual? Yeah,
2:12:42
Adam Curry: it was just so bad.
He didn't play any Taylor Swift.
2:12:48
So yeah, he's got all these
drops of you saying Darren
2:12:52
O'Neal sucks. He's got he's got
all those
2:12:54
John C Dvorak: using those.
Yeah, once you drop, Jared.
2:13:00
Jared Oh, Neil is the best. Oh,
he
2:13:03
Adam Curry: did play Taylor
Swift. Apparently,
2:13:06
John C Dvorak: he stinks.
2:13:09
Adam Curry: So yeah, go to troll
room.io or no agenda stream.com.
2:13:13
Or if you're using one of those
swanky modern podcast apps,
2:13:16
it'll let you know when we go
live. The new podcast apps are
2:13:21
great. First of all, if you know
if you get thrown off, if any of
2:13:24
your favorite podcast gets
thrown off of one of the legacy
2:13:26
apps, I'm talking to Apple,
which will happen. You know that
2:13:30
Spotify kicks three, four or
five shows a day off of Spotify.
2:13:36
John C Dvorak: But people don't
really why what was their what's
2:13:38
their rationale for this
dangerous
2:13:40
Adam Curry: speech? I don't know
them. They don't really give
2:13:43
reasons they. But there's, you
know, there's a whole system.
2:13:47
Because if you have most podcast
hosting companies, you can
2:13:50
automatically when you post it
or you know, even when you start
2:13:53
your account, it'll set you up
on Spotify. They have an
2:13:57
agreement. And excuse me, when
Spotify kick someone off, then
2:14:03
they pay automatically ping the
podcast hosting company and say
2:14:06
we kick these guys off, but they
don't give a reason. They just
2:14:09
tell them so that when people
call up the hosting company and
2:14:12
say, Hey, I'm not on Spotify,
that they can say yeah, they
2:14:17
kicked you off and you have to
take it up with them. It's
2:14:19
horrible. Really. That's
horrible. So that
2:14:22
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
Sunday is not horrible. The new
2:14:26
no agenda art works. Site is
unbelievable.
2:14:31
Adam Curry: Is it up? Yep. And
what? You're a little early. I'm
2:14:34
not quite done with the
promotion yet.
2:14:35
John C Dvorak: No, sorry. Okay.
I'm just
2:14:38
Adam Curry: you're excited. I
understand.
2:14:39
John C Dvorak: I'm jacked up.
2:14:41
Adam Curry: I understand. Me
too. So besides the fact that
2:14:46
when we post the show any show
you'll be notified within 90
2:14:52
seconds. The show is good to go.
You know on some of these legacy
2:14:55
app, it takes an hour's hours
before you find out before
2:14:58
they're updated. Now Another
thing I want to mention value
2:15:02
for value, which we'll talk
about in a minute, has this
2:15:05
concept that we've been running
for 16 years. Has what? Huh?
2:15:11
What? What? You went, huh? Oh,
2:15:14
John C Dvorak: I Yeah, no, I was
looking at a piece and it looked
2:15:16
at the artist. Oh, yeah. You're
not even listening to me. Okay.
2:15:18
I'm sorry. No, I'm listening.
You don't have I'm sorry that
2:15:21
I'm so close to the mic that I I
actually went and got your
2:15:25
attention.
2:15:28
Adam Curry: Oh, wake up. Value
for value has taken off so big
2:15:33
that now people are running away
from Spotify. And they're put
2:15:38
they are and they're putting
their music up on the podcast
2:15:43
apps that are value for value,
the modern podcast idea? Yes.
2:15:46
Yes. Because it's no different
from a podcast and album, you've
2:15:50
got a feed you put any instead
of episodes, its tracks. And
2:15:54
because we have this live system
that we've been pioneering,
2:15:57
we've been pining for a long
time, but now it works and all
2:15:59
the modern apps. December 20,
December 21. Live from
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Minneapolis from First Avenue
that's Prince's Old, old venue.
2:16:09
Ainsley Costello and just loud
are going to do a live concert
2:16:13
value for value video and audio
modern podcast apps.com Or I
2:16:18
think Ainsley costello.com You
can learn more about it. It's I
2:16:22
mean, it's gonna be fantastic
because it's completely
2:16:24
independent of all these stupid
legacy systems. And I'm very
2:16:28
well that's a plus. Yeah, well,
that it's it's it is the totally
2:16:32
the feature. So now we're
talking about value for value.
2:16:35
Yes, indeed time talent treasure
you can contribute to the show
2:16:39
in many ways. You heard a boots
on the ground report. That is a
2:16:41
great way to support us. The
three by three many clips are
2:16:45
sent to us by the clip custodian
the clip collector Dave Ackerman
2:16:49
sends me a daily news briefing
almost. We've got Sarah in the
2:16:54
UK who sends me compendiums.
This is all very helpful. And
2:16:58
please, whenever you think they
probably already know this. No,
2:17:02
no, we probably don't I'd rather
I'd rather delete 15 emails that
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are doubles instead of missing
something. So you know, please
2:17:11
continue to reach out to us.
People do websites, people.
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Let's talk about it right now.
Our artists or artists have been
2:17:20
creating artwork, a new one for
every single show. For 1213
2:17:26
years. I can't remember how long
it's been going on. It's been
2:17:28
going on for a long time. And we
love using fresh artwork. It
2:17:34
gives people something to talk
about. It looks great in on
2:17:37
social media, it looks great
just everywhere. It you know,
2:17:41
your podcast app like oh, what
is that? Oh, this is different.
2:17:44
Oh, it's no agenda, of course.
So we want to thank networks for
2:17:47
the artwork for episode 1616. We
titled that one buying quiet.
2:17:52
And this was really the best one
that there was, I think we
2:17:56
looked at a couple of pieces.
This is the AI winter is coming.
2:18:01
As he proclaimed the AI Winter
is on the way. We had other
2:18:06
pieces. I'm going now to no
agenda art generator.com This is
2:18:10
it's taken a long time to load,
John. This is the brand new,
2:18:15
revamped after it was down
crashed and destroyed for
2:18:19
several weeks. It's still not
loading for me
2:18:23
John C Dvorak: was because I
probably might want you to get
2:18:26
out one other users
2:18:27
Adam Curry: me one person at a
time.
2:18:30
John C Dvorak: One person at a
time? Well, he says no, it's
2:18:33
still working out some bugs. And
then he's got some of the it's
2:18:36
not finished. But it's just the
new service.
2:18:40
Adam Curry: Yes, Sir Paul
couture, who has been
2:18:42
maintaining this thing for over
a decade? You know, we've had
2:18:45
some horrible hardware crash.
What I'm thinking right now is
2:18:48
that probably everyone went to
our agenda are generated. As I
2:18:51
said
2:18:52
John C Dvorak: it Yeah.
mentioned it like I got flooded.
2:18:54
Yeah. So Yeah, makes sense. So
it's
2:18:57
Adam Curry: still not loading
for me. So I can't really talk
2:19:00
about any of the art recamft You
have to walk me through it was
2:19:02
there until it loads for me. But
2:19:05
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
those pieces. Shoot,
2:19:08
Adam Curry: is I got a gateway
timeout.
2:19:12
John C Dvorak: Oh, crap. Well,
he doesn't have those pieces up
2:19:16
from last show. Well,
2:19:17
Adam Curry: then we could just
say everything sucked. But this
2:19:19
one from networks? No, they
2:19:21
John C Dvorak: were all there
were some good pieces. I thought
2:19:23
all the pieces were usable. But
networks I thought was the best
2:19:26
because it just had everything
we wanted. And it was aI
2:19:29
obviously, no, it was totally AI
everything. You know, we were
2:19:33
kind of resigned, even though I
know you were going to reject
2:19:38
all AI forever.
2:19:40
Adam Curry: It's not possible.
It's not possible. And no,
2:19:42
John C Dvorak: that's the point.
It's not possible. It's become a
2:19:46
pretty good utility. It's
futile.
2:19:48
Adam Curry: It's become a pretty
good tool for artists who know
2:19:50
how to use and that's really
agree at the end of the day, and
2:19:54
I set it on purpose. AI will
only benefit the no agenda show
2:19:59
it will do Nothing for humanity.
It'll do nothing for business.
2:20:03
It'll do nothing for your spam.
It'll only benefit the no agenda
2:20:07
artists. That's the whole point.
And I'm happy that there's $100
2:20:11
billion industry just working
for us. Good to know.
2:20:16
John C Dvorak: So I'm still
trying I ended up with a gateway
2:20:18
timeout while looking at these
artworks. She was just you were
2:20:22
just saying can we crashed it?
2:20:24
Adam Curry: Well, the trolls are
saying, Oh, whoops. Yeah, I'm
2:20:27
guilty of that. Yeah, we crashed
it. I'm
2:20:29
John C Dvorak: okay. We crashed
it was my fault for saying
2:20:31
anything. I wasn't thinking
clearly. Yeah,
2:20:33
Adam Curry: I know what probably
happened because he's still
2:20:36
copying over, like 300 gigabytes
of artwork. And that's probably
2:20:41
taxing the system. So while we
keep reloading that trolls
2:20:45
please stop. Why don't we go to
the final T of the trifecta
2:20:50
which is treasure and thank our
executive and Associate
2:20:53
Executive Producers shortlist
today, but we are very happy to
2:20:58
to acknowledge our first
executive producer Mike rotch my
2:21:04
crotch I sat down my
2:21:05
John C Dvorak: garage by the way
we were dos the same fast guy
2:21:09
getting a PhD is late because he
this was blogging coming.
2:21:14
Adam Curry: I just loved it. His
name is Mike rotch I mean
2:21:17
really?
2:21:17
John C Dvorak: Do it is on the
bank check. It's in my garage is
2:21:22
Mike right Wow. So we're looking
at Jay and I are looking at Holy
2:21:28
mackerel. I said his parents
must have been a couple of
2:21:31
characters Ronnie Hey, I
2:21:35
Adam Curry: know my last name is
Rod let's call him Mike Dr sir
2:21:42
my crotch you can
2:21:43
John C Dvorak: just imagine what
the hunt family
2:21:47
Adam Curry: powder springs
Georgia and he comes in with two
2:21:50
checks one boobs eight oh dot
eight five and then a 211 and he
2:21:56
says hey and a folder here which
means he goes back to daily
2:22:00
source code days. Thank you.
Thank you brother. Don't
2:22:03
castigate me for operating
within the outlined late rules
2:22:08
211 goes towards double Richards
on the big boobs of eight oh dot
2:22:12
eight five now to be known as
double Doctor sir my crotch
2:22:17
Baron bowl of the lifestyle MD
medical doctor at MD media
2:22:21
deconstruction haha he might
actually be a doctor. Could be
2:22:26
that's even funnier. My crotch
OBGYN why nice requesting Eiffel
2:22:31
Towers with high fives and
twerking Russians for backroom
2:22:35
festivities of the Round Table
you're guessing
2:22:38
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing is a
urologist with that name.
2:22:42
Adam Curry: If we love guys like
that, Mike you got it you shall
2:22:45
be you shouldn't be the Baron
bowl of the lifestyle and
2:22:48
John C Dvorak: you know a lot of
guys and I would do this. You
2:22:52
take the no agenda diploma which
looks exactly like a classic
2:22:56
diploma because it's because it
is and is modeled after some
2:23:01
dynamite ones that would you
know, based on took a while to
2:23:04
fine tune it. And you'd put it
up there on the wall with the
2:23:09
other diplomas and let people
see what what happens. That's
2:23:15
what I do.
2:23:16
Adam Curry: I think lots of good
things will come your way. Yeah,
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: people Oh, in the
morning. Yes, indeed. Sir.
2:23:23
Spooky is up next. Unless up
December. That's all we had to
2:23:26
do. That's all we had to do
nothing. Yes, sir. Spooky is in
2:23:29
Western Springs, Illinois.
33333. Here, Adam and John. I
2:23:35
want to celebrate my 33rd
birthday on Tuesdays at
2:23:37
executive producer for the best
podcast in the universe plus the
2:23:40
16th and 17 of this episode
number equals 33. Oh no. I
2:23:47
cannot ignore such a cosmic
calling. Please give us your
2:23:51
strongest goat karma for peace
and harmony and 2024 year media
2:23:55
deconstructs you will be needed
more than ever. I'm deeply
2:23:59
grateful for all you do. Thank
you and Merry Christmas love and
2:24:02
fright, sir spooky of the Elm
streets.
2:24:07
Adam Curry: You've got Arma 333
dot 33 Trenton Scoville,
2:24:15
Charlotte, North Carolina short
and sweet Merry Christmas,
2:24:17
gents. Thank you for the value
and thank you for the value sent
2:24:21
back. By the way, the reminder
you can send any amount you want
2:24:25
a lot of people liked the
numerology stuff, but as long as
2:24:29
it represents the value you got
from the show, that's all we ask
2:24:32
for. Thank you, Trenton.
2:24:34
John C Dvorak: Rita Harrington
sparks Nevada also 33333 Merry
2:24:37
Christmas, John and Adam. David
the best podcast in the
2:24:40
universe. Your sense of humor is
just right. Please give me a
2:24:45
shout out as it's my 66th trip
around the sun on 1220 Thanks.
2:24:52
Reminded
2:24:52
Adam Curry: from Logan five that
the next episode is the golden
2:24:55
ratio number 1618 Oh, Oh, yes.
Can
2:25:00
John C Dvorak: you get right?
Can
2:25:01
Adam Curry: you write that down?
You write that down. And I'll
2:25:05
continue with chap. Williams,
who, from what I can see your
2:25:09
came in with two checks possibly
of 333 dot 33. He's here he's
2:25:15
listed double. Looks like these
are checks. Can you verify
2:25:18
John C Dvorak: objects they
don't even say two of them came
2:25:21
in
2:25:21
Adam Curry: and he did not have
a note which means he gets a
2:25:23
double up karmic. Thank you chap
you've got? Yes, of course the
2:25:30
golden ratio was 1.618. Of
course, that's the golden ratio.
2:25:35
1618 1.618.
2:25:38
John C Dvorak: So everyone
should give $1.61 and we'll be
2:25:43
good to go.
2:25:44
Adam Curry: If everyone did,
yes.
2:25:46
John C Dvorak: David Mertens, in
Edmond, Oklahoma. That'll be the
2:25:50
day if
2:25:50
Adam Curry: everyone, everyone,
every single person gives $1.68.
2:25:55
We're done for the rest of the
year.
2:25:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. David
Mertens, in Edmond, Oklahoma.
2:26:01
333. This is for the best
podcast in the universe. In
2:26:07
celebration of the best Papa in
the universe. Ah D DJ and
2:26:15
Thatcher are so lucky.
2:26:17
Adam Curry: Now. That sounds
like sounds like a good Papa.
2:26:23
There you go. And I'll
2:26:24
John C Dvorak: continue to the
end here because there's only
2:26:26
one Associate Executive
Producer. And it just so happens
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2:27:06
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you,
Linda. Thank you all executive
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I told you it's going to be
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appreciate that. And not only
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put it on your LinkedIn or
Google What are you drinking
2:27:41
today?
2:27:43
John C Dvorak: Yes, you can't
when you get this microphone is
2:27:45
did I have to turn out it's ever
seen actually drinking? Your
2:27:49
favorite a Topo Chico? Mineral
water?
2:27:51
Adam Curry: Yes. Topo Chico?
That is the drink of Texas.
2:27:55
Everybody loves the toe. Is it a
bottle or a can must be a
2:27:59
bottle. It's
2:27:59
John C Dvorak: a bottle and I
and they haven't had Costco at a
2:28:01
really good price. I
2:28:03
Adam Curry: heard that the
Costco Bordeaux is back.
2:28:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, somebody
sent some pictures of it. And I
2:28:08
will say this, that 2021 is not
a good vintage and I'm really
2:28:12
doubtful that this wine is going
to be that great. But when I see
2:28:16
it, I'll try it
2:28:17
Adam Curry: Topo Chico with a
yellow cap. You can look at the
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yellow cap recognized anywhere.
So you can as I said these
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credits can also put them on
your LinkedIn or on your resume.
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It's great. It's good. It's
valid forever. And unlike the
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phonies in Hollywood, we'll
gladly vouch for you. And John's
2:28:36
gonna take us through to the 50s
and we'll get into our meetups
2:28:38
and our nice things. Carrie
2:28:40
John C Dvorak: Wiley starts us
off from Arvada, Colorado, and
2:28:44
she is going to ask for jobs
Commerford daughter Kate. She
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came in with 150 bucks we'll
give her the jobs calm at the
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end. Bruce Schwalm in
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 12345.
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Lucas Williams in Roswell, New
Mexico. Yes. 100 Tony pace in
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Houston, Texas. 100 Dane
Patricia Worthington from Miami
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is here with 100 James Watson in
mentor Ohio 100. BINGO Kevin
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McLaughlin in in Concord, North
Carolina. 808. boobs don't
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judge. They just love
unconditionally. Sir g k in
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Rick in Arlington, Washington.
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6996. Always good to hear from
him. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke
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of Luna is back. 606 small boobs
and he says boobs. They're not
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just for men anymore.
2:29:48
Adam Curry: You know, I have to
say, besides the fact that he's
2:29:51
been donating for months,
2:29:54
John C Dvorak: I think over a
year he
2:29:56
Adam Curry: his his his his
writing is Creative I love it
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John C Dvorak: he's the best
speaking of writing Schreiber,
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Madrid and Meryl speaking
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Adam Curry: of writing we were
expecting to have some kind of
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write off in the newsletter Tina
was all excited about it and
2:30:14
then you bugged out it was a
handwriting Comparison Test yeah
2:30:20
John C Dvorak: I have to get
back to the other woman you're
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gonna have a show to here's
where it's gonna go because I've
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got grandiose plans is going to
be those to show down into the
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winner takes on the next person
who thinks they've got good
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handwriting and we go we go into
we get a winner at the end will
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be crown handwriting champion of
the no agenda show and where the
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judges right.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, you and me.
Yeah, cool. Okay. All right.
2:30:43
Carry on.
2:30:45
John C Dvorak: As opposed to
who?
2:30:47
Adam Curry: I just want to make
sure we're doing it the way
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these things are always on the
wait table
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John C Dvorak: in Africa. We get
this done they will be that will
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give us the kind of that is
stretching our delta gives you
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the stretching exercises
necessary to do the podcasting
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Espanol. Which is nice. A Baron
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let's do a name and location.
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John C Dvorak: Congratulations
to work in Russians.
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Adam Curry: That's a good one.
Have we seen have we ever seen
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twerking Russians? I bet you
they know. Look out Russian
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also a great way to pick up some
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caring and connection is
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join your community. I'm not
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to be a part of the in person,
no agenda community. Lots of
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great meetups happening all
around the world. We have two
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reports. This one's from Epping,
New Hampshire
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Unknown: in the morning. This is
the
2:38:00
Epping New Hampshire center of
the universe.
2:38:02
No agenda meto here we are. I am
not a douchebag My name is Dave
2:38:08
and I just recently got my
official podcasting license
2:38:12
in the morning. This is Sir
pokey first night of the 42 I
2:38:16
love both you guys and John. I'm
still so sorry. You probably
2:38:18
didn't get my email that I
apologize because you blocked me
2:38:21
but I'm so sorry. Forgive me. I
love you both
2:38:23
in the morning. This is Daniel.
Sir Daniel. I don't know. I'm
2:38:27
not sure yet. It's all I got.
2:38:30
Thank you for your courage.
2:38:31
This is Damon Lydia in the
morning. This is Angelica
2:38:35
Adam Curry: I think there's
there should be some kind of a
2:38:37
special group of people who
you've blocked. Now there should
2:38:41
be a block club. Yes. The JCD no
agenda block club. I think if
2:38:46
someone should start that now
and you have to prove
2:38:49
John C Dvorak: let me say this.
Let me say this. Let me say
2:38:51
this.
2:38:52
Adam Curry: Why don't you say
something?
2:38:54
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say
this. This is bullcrap. Most of
2:38:56
the people that think they've
been blocked or not blocked,
2:38:59
it's the
2:39:00
Adam Curry: block ease There you
go. This your award show
2:39:05
blocking the no agenda block
ease award show. Come on down,
2:39:10
block ease. What do you mean
they're blocked? The blog
2:39:14
they're
2:39:14
John C Dvorak: not there. The
number of people that are
2:39:15
blocked are very, you know, half
of these people they claim
2:39:19
they're blocked they're not
blocked,
2:39:21
Adam Curry: then what are they
talking about?
2:39:23
John C Dvorak: I have no idea I
know I know your spam if you
2:39:26
Adam Curry: say if you put the
word ass even douchebag may get
2:39:31
kicked back here's your filters
there are really tight. This
2:39:36
tighten and Mike Rochus your
filters are so sure that you're
2:39:40
so tight. Anyway, I would like
to know I think y'all should
2:39:43
start a club hashtag the block
ease on no agenda social hashtag
2:39:48
the block E's and post a
screenshot with the error
2:39:52
message that shows that you are
blocked it doesn't count if you
2:39:55
use it lewd or lascivious
language. And now for the meetup
2:39:59
report from Brooklyn. I expected
no less but a full on dynamite
2:40:04
in your face report. Now we're
getting people from all over the
2:40:10
globe coming to New York City.
This issue will destroy New York
2:40:15
City. This is Gitmo nation's
favorite shape systems. You
2:40:19
correct the record passing the
phone around sir spoon maker
2:40:22
here. Trains good. Cleans bad.
2:40:26
Unknown: This is so boring for
the web five in the morning.
2:40:29
Mica rock and roll from the
Brooklyn meetups great time.
2:40:33
Everyone's super chill. In New
York. We need more weirdos
2:40:36
destroy New York City's 17 year
anniversary cut the beat up
2:40:39
shortly. We never had a fight.
It was
2:40:43
David from Brooklyn in the
morning. Fergus 33 here. Pretty
2:40:49
cool maker. Says Dan from New
Jersey in the morning. Hi this
2:40:54
experiment they weren't the only
dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya
2:40:57
I'm trapped in a 10 to the 13
strange men. I now know how it
2:41:01
feels to get banned from the
city we knew
2:41:06
without to lose.
2:41:09
Adam Curry: Thank you, Brooklyn.
Brooklyn does not disappoint.
2:41:12
Love that. Meetup is taking
place today. The X s the SXM
2:41:16
salt and soda water meetup that
is underway now. Oh yes. St.
2:41:20
Martin is probably underway now
a tonne of Fat Tony Smokehouse
2:41:24
Sen report. People want to know
how that went. We have long
2:41:27
views. Lively laugh loaded mid
mouth, mid month monthly meet
2:41:31
up. Thanks. That'll be in
Longview, Texas. Just started 20
2:41:35
minutes ago Rotolo is pizzeria
you can still make it on
2:41:38
Wednesday, the London Christmas
party, five o'clock at Norfolk
2:41:43
arms and London. We Gigi is
hosting that send a report I
2:41:47
want to hear how our London
producers are doing and the next
2:41:50
show day Thursday calling on
North Georgia slave six o'clock
2:41:53
at Cherry Street brewing in
Alpharetta, Georgia. And also on
2:41:57
Thursday, Lee Charlotte thirsty
Third Thursday seven o'clock at
2:42:00
edge Tavern in Charlotte, North
Carolina. There's many more on
2:42:04
the list including Sofia,
Bulgaria, Lombok, which is next
2:42:08
to Bali in Indonesia. Tortola
Tortola Virgin Islands the
2:42:13
British Virgin Islands. Disease
some Texas Albany California
2:42:18
February 3 That's the good JC do
the house meet up there's plenty
2:42:21
more all you need to do is go to
no agenda meetups.com Thank you
2:42:25
sir Daniel, for your time and
talent on keeping that website
2:42:28
up and running. It's so good.
It's so efficient for people to
2:42:32
organize meetups and everybody
is welcome everybody is welcome
2:42:37
at a no agenda meet up go ahead
say hi to some people you'll be
2:42:41
surprised you'll love it is like
eating potato chips you can't
2:42:44
stop once you do a no agenda
meetup.com If you can't find one
2:42:47
near you start one yourself it's
easy sometimes
2:42:50
Unknown: you go hang out with
Tyson day you won't be triggered
2:43:03
everybody feels the same it's
like a body
2:43:09
Adam Curry: like a pot. I'm
gonna have to do my ISOs first
2:43:12
I'm over I sewed over it Yeah
Have I got too many too many got
2:43:19
I'm over I so I'm over it hit it
alright cute Yes. Cute is
2:43:28
exactly the right term.
2:43:29
John C Dvorak: Amaze estar ass
2:43:31
Adam Curry: okay right right yes
loved it. Hmm we'll sell so deja
2:43:38
vu I kind of like that one. And
I hate this I have that I think
2:43:47
the best is a feel show deja vu.
We like that one. Deja vu. Deja
2:43:53
vu?
2:43:54
John C Dvorak: Because it is
kind of different. Mine are more
2:43:57
direct. Okay. I mean they're
designed to actually be used.
2:44:01
Adam Curry: Oh please.
2:44:03
John C Dvorak: I saw the start
with good podcast
2:44:05
Unknown: is so good. As
2:44:07
Adam Curry: you say podcast is
so good. Yeah. That again,
2:44:11
little muddy is too bad with his
little money podcast is so good.
2:44:19
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's good
laughs and giggles and everyone
2:44:21
laughs and everyone giggles
2:44:23
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a good
one. I like that one. Yes, I
2:44:26
like it
2:44:26
John C Dvorak: and then the one
that's the obvious one is the is
2:44:29
the good job. Wow, good job.
2:44:35
Adam Curry: We have a winner. We
have a winner we have a winner.
2:44:39
I hope you don't mind but I
think I have the story today
2:44:47
John C Dvorak: we're going to
have a good eat have a good
2:44:49
story yeah
2:44:49
Adam Curry: good news. So I
think I have one I think I have
2:44:52
a good well we can do a
2:44:53
John C Dvorak: good news stories
showdown. I don't know if you're
2:44:55
gonna beat mine because mine is
a tear jerker.
2:44:59
Adam Curry: News everyone all
right, we'll start with mine. We
2:45:02
go to Nashville.
2:45:03
Unknown: This is what's left of
the room where Sydney Moore was
2:45:05
laying on top of her one year
old shielding him from the
2:45:08
tornado. As her four month old
baby got sucked away, and her
2:45:12
mobile home, demolished,
towering over the rubble of her
2:45:16
mobile home and shadowing her
crushed car. Sydney's kids play
2:45:19
pin is wrapped around a tree, a
jarring reminder of how easily
2:45:23
the tornado tossed their four
month old baby to the wind. The
2:45:27
roof came
2:45:28
off first, the tip of the
tornado came down and picked up
2:45:30
the bassinet with my baby Lord
in it. And he was the first
2:45:33
thing to go up
2:45:34
in his attempt to keep the
bassinet inside her boyfriend
2:45:37
and father of her children was
sucked up with it. Mom same time
2:45:40
in the back bedroom, needs to
move her body on top of their
2:45:44
one year old son shielding him.
Literally
2:45:46
the moment I jumped on him. The
walls collapsed. I was being
2:45:49
really crushed. Like I couldn't
breathe.
2:45:52
The couple frantically searched
through the rubble in the
2:45:54
pouring rain for the infant. I
2:45:56
thought he was dead. Pretty sure
he was dead and we weren't gonna
2:45:59
be able find him. Then
2:46:00
a miracle they found baby Lord
alive with just a cut on his
2:46:05
face.
2:46:06
And it looks like a little tree
cradle. It was just laying
2:46:10
there.
2:46:11
The entire family survived. Now
as she walks back down to where
2:46:15
her home used to be pulling it
off Sydney's recalling how she
2:46:19
thought this would never happen
to her family. Everything could
2:46:23
be taken like that. The kids
that she risked her life to save
2:46:26
sleeping peacefully tonight.
Like
2:46:29
those those kids are what saved
me. They saved me from
2:46:33
everything. And I don't know
what I would have done without
2:46:35
them. Okay,
2:46:36
Adam Curry: I think when you
have a story of a baby getting
2:46:40
sucked up by a tornado. Yeah,
the dad getting sucked up by the
2:46:44
tornado. What
2:46:45
John C Dvorak: happened to him
by the way he end up in a tree
2:46:47
we didn't have hurt we knew know
the baby did.
2:46:50
Adam Curry: The kid's name is
Lord. I mean, this has good news
2:46:55
written all over and it was one
minute and 30 seconds.
2:46:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
like to time mines too long. But
2:47:01
mine is more of a tree. It also
it not only has good news
2:47:06
written all over it, it has
books written all over it. It
2:47:11
wouldn't have said that baby
with the Lord in there. That was
2:47:16
the that was the me checkmark,
folks.
2:47:21
Unknown: When do we want it? Now
please get in in the crevices of
2:47:25
a canyon county Ridge, a missing
woman's life was left up to
2:47:29
Eddie. Now we're doing this and
chase. It's crazy. We're
2:47:33
partners and hunters.
2:47:35
We don't come out here in the
winter. There's no reason for us
2:47:38
to asides to look. And they
couldn't believe what there's a
2:47:41
car down here or who right down
in the little crevice aid found
2:47:44
in the corner in the tumbleweeds
and we climbed down a little
2:47:48
investigation in the car and
that's when we found pennies
2:47:50
information. I put pennies named
Penny say Clark in on Facebook,
2:47:54
and that's when it popped up. A
2:47:56
72 year old woman having no
recent contact with her family
2:48:00
Canyon County Sheriff Karen
Donohue had already been looking
2:48:04
for pen
2:48:04
no one would have looked here.
Really there's just there's been
2:48:07
no reason to
2:48:07
look here. No reason to be there
at all. So we
2:48:10
were I mean out under those
clouds. And we decided to just
2:48:15
make a random turn and get out
come back out this way. And this
2:48:18
is where we ended up
2:48:19
Eddie and chase called 911
explaining the car, the crash
2:48:24
the scene
2:48:25
and then one of the officers
looks past the car with a
2:48:27
binoculars and sees part of her
and sees her moving her
2:48:32
extremities you know me and
chase her in the truck filling
2:48:35
out reports and one of the cops
yelled Penny Good
2:48:39
Lord, not only have we found
her, she's still alive. With
2:48:42
help
2:48:42
from Idaho mountain search and
rescue. They tracked penny off
2:48:46
the ridge and flew her to a
nearby hospital.
2:48:51
No broken bones. You know, she
was just cold, hungry and tired.
2:48:55
And I can't I can't say enough
what a miracle that is. You
2:48:59
know,
2:49:00
in my experience, this is a less
than 1% chance of surviving this
2:49:05
God had a different plan.
2:49:06
Multiple agencies coordinated
the rescue. But the highest
2:49:10
ranking law enforcement officer
in the county knows where to
2:49:13
direct praise. They're the true
heroes here. They really are.
2:49:17
They're the ones that saved this
woman's life but Eddie and chase
2:49:20
and just they don't need the
credit. I don't know kind of
2:49:23
lost for words.
2:49:24
They already got the payment of
a lifetime
2:49:27
and pennies daughter arrived on
scene when Penny got down to the
2:49:32
ambulance. She said I never
thought listening to my mom
2:49:35
snore in a hospital bed would be
the best Christmas present you
2:49:40
know to receive and I hope your
Christmas is just as as
2:49:44
specialists this it really hit
home.
2:49:46
Adam Curry: Alright you get a
point for the Christmas message.
2:49:49
The length is too long is
disqualified. I disqualified
2:49:54
disqualifies. I have to like
2:49:57
John C Dvorak: I it was 240 I
couldn't Cut in a I tried to get
2:50:01
under two it was it was long but
it had it flowed so well. With
2:50:07
this last penny the doofus is
yes,
2:50:10
Adam Curry: this is a hoax that
just happen to be out there. Oh,
2:50:13
Unknown: they're high horses.
Oh,
2:50:15
Adam Curry: they're hiking with
a helicopter. Sure. Yeah, that's
2:50:18
what I do. Oh, let's hop on the
chopper. It's a just 72 What
2:50:21
you're not dead at 72 Like, oh,
2:50:26
John C Dvorak: you can we will
just call it a draw. Oh, no. The
2:50:31
wind from
2:50:34
Unknown: from JCD happy vibes
for you and me and we all feel
2:50:40
better. Now he's done his bit.
To back to reality. That's
2:50:45
turning to shit. Alright,
2:50:48
Adam Curry: we'll call it no
winner. No winner, although I
2:50:51
think getting sucked up by a
tornado, your kids name and if
2:50:55
they had thrown a Christmas vibe
in there, like just in time for
2:50:58
Christmas, baby Lord is safe.
That would have been a winner. I
2:51:03
mean, there's just there's no
two ways about it.
2:51:08
John C Dvorak: I reserve
judgment on the sucked up by a
2:51:11
tornado story. Do you? Do you
have a husband too? I guess.
2:51:16
There you go. We didn't
2:51:17
Adam Curry: we never heard from
him again.
2:51:18
John C Dvorak: He's still in a
visit. If you guys if
2:51:22
Adam Curry: he would happen
there. Let's see. We probably
2:51:26
should.
2:51:26
John C Dvorak: By the way, you
know people who've ever been
2:51:28
used in a tornado where they've
been actually outside. Basic.
2:51:32
They've all reported kind of the
same thing. You are head to toe
2:51:37
covered with splinters. Yeah,
2:51:40
Adam Curry: it could be Yeah.
Well, baby Lord only had a
2:51:43
scratch some
2:51:44
John C Dvorak: alias scratches.
Another thing that bothers me.
2:51:48
Adam Curry: I have two AI clips
if you want we could end with or
2:51:52
do you have something that you'd
like to end with? No,
2:51:55
John C Dvorak: I guess this
stuff can be moved. I don't have
2:51:57
anything that's critical. If AI
is great. We haven't talked
2:52:00
about AI for weeks.
2:52:03
Adam Curry: Chow was missing my
AI stories. Well, this was on
2:52:09
CNN, it was rather peculiar.
Because they're anti AI.
2:52:18
John C Dvorak: I don't really
well, they should be with
2:52:21
channel one.ai. coming down the
pike. Maybe
2:52:24
Adam Curry: that's why they did
this particular story. AI
2:52:27
Unknown: is the life work of
Georgia Tech professor and
2:52:30
researcher, Matthew Gambale.
2:52:31
It's not ready for deployment.
It's not a product yet.
2:52:35
So do you think it should be
used by police departments?
2:52:38
Certainly not. A report by
Georgetown Law estimates that as
2:52:41
of 2016, one in two American
adults is in a law enforcement
2:52:44
face recognition network. And it
can happen without your consent
2:52:48
or knowledge. This
2:52:49
technology is not accurate for
the way it's being used. When
2:52:52
you ask a question. Like, is
this person's face match up with
2:52:58
a fugitive? You can have a 99.7%
accuracy rate. It's really good.
2:53:03
Sounds really good. But what if
you ask that same question 300
2:53:08
million times you deploy these
things at scale at a population
2:53:11
level, you're going to get a
tremendous number of false
2:53:14
positives.
2:53:15
Depending on your race that
accuracy drops even more at
2:53:18
2019. US government study of 200
facial recognition algorithms
2:53:22
found some of them up to 100
times more likely to miss
2:53:25
identify people of color
compared to white people
2:53:28
gambling. To the test, we will
see what happens. Wait using
2:53:33
pictures of CNN journalists,
these Georgia Tech researchers
2:53:36
he created a virtual lineup and
told the AI to identify my face
2:53:40
get
2:53:40
works about some of the time
though it says no face. Like
2:53:45
here, just thought that you were
Victor Blackwell.
2:53:47
I thought that I was Victor
Blackwell. Yes. Victor Blackwell
2:53:50
is a black man. Yes.
2:53:51
What does that say that says
that these algorithms are not
2:53:54
ready for primetime.
2:53:56
And building the algorithm. You
can teach the AI to be
2:53:59
racist. Yes, you can absolutely
teach the algorithms to be
2:54:02
racist, the algorithm doesn't
care. The algorithm just wants
2:54:05
to do a good job at the task
you've given it. And in this
2:54:09
case, you're telling it that if
you're black, you're more likely
2:54:12
to have committed the crimes.
2:54:14
That's the data that you
2:54:15
Adam Curry: fit in. That's the
part that I liked about the
2:54:18
store. What bull crap versus
bull crap. There's like, you can
2:54:22
teach the AI to be racist. Oh,
yeah. So it showed a black man
2:54:26
because he's more likely to have
committed the crime. I mean, I'm
2:54:30
anti AI, but even I'm not buying
that bullcrap.
2:54:34
John C Dvorak: No, this is bad.
That was a bad report.
2:54:36
Adam Curry: It was a great
report. You're talking about
2:54:40
shows that this is all book.
Okay. All right. All right. Do
2:54:45
you have anything better?
2:54:46
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
this. I mean, I went through
2:54:48
these facial recognition systems
years ago. 12 years ago. It's
2:54:54
not even AI. They weren't great
and had nothing to do with AI.
2:54:58
No, they don't
2:55:00
Adam Curry: I got someone
telling me AI can't do math
2:55:04
because it's a large language
model. Well, dude, someone needs
2:55:07
to work on the marketing because
these things are being sold as
2:55:10
the next best thing since sliced
bread. And they're not AI
2:55:14
winters come in. It's come in,
just
2:55:18
John C Dvorak: stick to your
thesis as good AI
2:55:20
Adam Curry: Winter is Coming
billions of dollars. It's next
2:55:23
up. We all know what it's going
to be. Quantum Computing.
2:55:28
John C Dvorak: It happened
before quantum computing is a
2:55:30
dead end. Yeah, well,
2:55:32
Adam Curry: they need something
to prop up the stock market.
2:55:35
Coming up next. I know AGENDA
stream.com We have oh, the
2:55:39
airline pilot guide. They
haven't heard from him in a
2:55:42
while.
2:55:43
John C Dvorak: That's good.
That's a good show.
2:55:44
Adam Curry: That was a very good
show. It's one of the better
2:55:46
aviation podcasts out there and
you get your troll room.io You
2:55:50
can listen in use the monitor
podcast app as well. I have a
2:55:53
Christmas end of show mix for
you. You'll love it. We have
2:55:59
John C Dvorak: Leon the indie
show mix, which you played
2:56:01
earlier is dynamite.
2:56:02
Adam Curry: We have Sir Chris
Wilson and Maddie j and this
2:56:06
will get you in the mood for
Christmas. I guarantee you.
2:56:11
Coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country in FEMA
2:56:14
Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
2:56:18
curry. And
2:56:19
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's
2:56:20
raining. It's about time I'm
John C. Dvorak.
2:56:24
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday, which will be the 21st
2:56:28
countdown to Christmas. We'll be
working on Christmas Eve as
2:56:31
well. We love it. It's what we
do time talent treasure remember
2:56:34
us at the vortech.org/na until
Thursday, everybody adios mofos
2:56:39
who we who we end such
2:56:42
Unknown: a debate about the
gender of Santa Claus has now
2:56:45
broke out on Facebook after and
mother in England because she
2:56:48
had been shamed for not using a
gender neutral name for Santa
2:56:51
Claus. And the mother claimed in
the viral post that she had been
2:56:55
attacked for using the name
Father Christmas to describe the
2:56:59
bearded character.
2:57:01
This caused everybody in the
Facebook group to completely
2:57:04
erupt and explode on her. How
dare you refer to Santa Claus as
2:57:09
Father Christmas? Because they
think a big fat man with a long
2:57:14
white curly beard might be a
chick. They might want to date
2:57:19
that chick
2:57:21
stole my childhood Christmas
Christmas Christmas person
2:57:34
Christmas I thought they're
suggesting but he's a bloke and
2:57:37
what are we gonna do with Mother
Nature? Father
2:57:40
Adam Curry: Time it needs work I
have to go
2:57:50
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Comes now the big hand.
Christmas 1941. The weeks after
2:58:46
Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt hosted at Churchill in
2:58:50
this White House. Together they
plan the most travel year of
2:58:54
yours. Near the assassination
and ride of war and chaos. Still
2:58:59
today in our own time, our own
life. So this Christmas, let's
2:59:04
spread low poison. The pandemic
has taken so much from us. Loss
2:59:09
hope, love, peace and joy. No
face at all. I hope this
2:59:14
Christmas season marks a fresh
start our nation affected our
2:59:18
politics has set us against one
another. We see each other as
2:59:22
enemies not as neighbors as
Democrats or Republicans not as
2:59:26
fellow Americans. So angry. So
mean so partisan, great pain,
2:59:32
federal owners all across the
country for a million lives lost
2:59:37
in America alone. Whether
Christian, Jewish, Hindu,
2:59:41
Muslim, Buddhist, that's a
million empty chair. You know, I
2:59:45
believe Christmas is a season of
breaking hearts and homes all
2:59:49
across the country. Mr. Stone
Mr. Stone Mr. Stone
3:00:05
Anything that remotely resembles
crack cocaine 30 days without
3:00:11
sleeping
3:00:12
Adam Curry: too much.
3:00:18
Unknown: Chance dodge Hannah is
as low trust China. China is as
3:00:23
home. China, Walker Christmas,
the United States, the United
3:00:29
States, Chinese as Oh, China was
the United States,
3:00:36
the United States, the United
States, the United States, the
3:00:39
United States.
3:00:41
Why would I be talking about
Winnie the Pooh so much Winnie
3:00:43
the Pooh is constantly being
banned in China. And that's
3:00:46
because the leader Xi Jinping is
very sensitive and he doesn't
3:00:51
like the fact that people
compare him to Winnie the Pooh,
3:00:54
China is
3:00:57
China versus the United States.
The United States. Chinese as
3:01:03
Oh, China, why is the United
States
3:01:09
The United States, the United
States, the United States, the
3:01:11
United States.
3:01:14
China is as Oh China us as home.
3:01:38
Adam Curry: Adios MoPhO
3:01:39
Unknown: boruch.org/in A Wow,
3:01:46
good job.