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December 28th, 2023 • 3h 14m

1620: Yoko Swifto

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Unknown: Hong Kong, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: December 28 2023 This Year Award winning given
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each media assassination episode 1620. This is no agenda, rolling
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out the yellow flags and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas hill country here in the region number six in the
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morning, everybody. Adam curry and
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody
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agrees that perhaps the dumbest show on TV and perhaps the worst
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in the history of television is the masked singer. I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: You got to talk to Marty, because you already did
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that opening.
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John C Dvorak: I did it again.
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Adam Curry: Why did you do it again?
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John C Dvorak: That show is so bad. It needs to have been
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people need to be reminded. Well,
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Adam Curry: what are you doing watching it? Why you're even
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anyway? Why are you even on those channels?
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John C Dvorak: I'm looking for new stories. Wow, man.
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, just say no. Stay away from that stuff.
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It's not healthy for you. Now
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John C Dvorak: they have a whole slew of spin offs.
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Adam Curry: Hey, speaking of I had a vision. had a vision. I
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think I figured it out for something you've been asking for
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for a long time. Okay,
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John C Dvorak: but wait, let me ask a question in advance. Was
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this vision in a vivid dream? No.
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Adam Curry: No, it was not in a vivid dream. It was as I was
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going to sleep last night. It's it came over me like a warm
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blanket.
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John C Dvorak: You sure that was it was a liquid?
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Adam Curry: No. Come on, man. I figured it out. I know how to do
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it. The no agenda Podcast Awards. Ah, it's
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John C Dvorak: about time you've come around,
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Adam Curry: also known as the goats. Okay, yeah.
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John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is, uh huh. That's
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interesting. You'd say that because goats is commonly used
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in sports a lot. And it'd be great a popular phrase about
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greatest a decade ago, but I don't know that it's been used
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as an award base. No, no, I you may have stumbled onto something
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here that goats
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Adam Curry: I told you a vision the goats because of course, you
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know, you have to you have to have the award has to have a
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name. So no agenda Podcast Awards is one thing. And maybe I
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don't know if we want to call it the no agenda Podcast Awards, or
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just the the Podcast Awards. But our our award itself is called a
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goat. Yeah, not the go t no, no, not the goat cheese. No, the
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goats. It's just the goats. Now, here's how it works. Because
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this is the most important part. How do we differentiate
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ourselves.
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John C Dvorak: And I'm feel so good about planting a seed.
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Adam Curry: Well, like a little mustard seed, it grew into an
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enormous tree, John, you have done your business.
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John C Dvorak: Mustard doesn't grow into a tree and go on.
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Adam Curry: So we don't have traditional categories. We just
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have awards. And it is the producers of the no agenda show,
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which means you have to have at least donated once doesn't
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matter what amount. And we can work on this later. But that's
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just what in my in my vision, the producers send in the
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awards. And it's clips. So you have to be able to clip and I'm
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seeing awards such as Best vocal fry in a podcast. Most use No,
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no most words use of the word right in a podcast. Funniest
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handoff from Hey, hey, girl, hey, hi, hey, hey, best
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transition to an ad read gold, best native ad? Gold, this, this
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would be fantastic. This is why people would love our awards.
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What do you think?
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John C Dvorak: I mean, we still have no I have no immediate
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complaints. We still choose the award becomes it becomes. But I
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don't want to deteriorate into the raspberries. No,
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Adam Curry: no, no, no, no. Hey, the best vocal fry. That's not
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easy to do in a podcast that takes talent, especially
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John C Dvorak: if you're going to sustain it. Yes. So so and
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they probably deserve an award because they're going to be
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going to ruin their vocal cords. So
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Adam Curry: the so the producers send in their clips, their
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nominees, we of course, like all good awards, we do whatever we
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want. And the way awards work, we'll still we'll still have
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some consultant come out and say, Well, I've tallied all the
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votes, you know, with a little suitcase. You know, it's in
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here. No one knows the results. But of course, we know you know,
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how it works. Of course, we know the results. And then we do an
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award show. And I think we can we can do a pretty fun job with
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that. And maybe we get some I don't know. I mean, the
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production of the show itself. I'm not there yet, but Just the
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basic concept. Is all of these things that are that make
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podcasting so unique?
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John C Dvorak: Well, the thing is, is it would be a there's no
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categories. Be open ended. Yep. And you can get given a word for
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the longest podcast in the history of podcasting. Well,
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yeah, you I think we already won. We
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Adam Curry: were on deck for winning the goat for that. Then
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everyone gets a goat. You win the goat and you can already
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hear it'd be a goat head. Yeah, of course. You know how that's
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gonna work. It's obvious, you know, it's about plastic.
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John C Dvorak: It should be plastic, a
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Adam Curry: plastic goat. Yeah. And I think there's plenty of
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great nominations that people can consent in. And but all
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those things that, you know, the most profane.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, the guys who can't stop cussing and stuff
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Adam Curry: like that, you know? Best. Best NAT pops.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, there's very few podcasts.
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Right. And well, that's true, but it does.
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Adam Curry: We do a great job. We do a great job. Ah, okay,
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cool. Good. I'm glad you can like that. I'm excited. I'm
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excited. Hey, I'm
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John C Dvorak: glad you came up with it. That means you're on
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board.
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Adam Curry: I hope everybody had a merry Christmas. I know that I
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had a great Christmas. We had one of the human resources and
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our boyfriend here. That was great. And I made double dip
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depression slaves to for the day after Christmas, which everybody
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loved. If you've never heard of that. It's a no agenda staple.
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I've published the link to the, to the recipe in the show notes.
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Of course, the Dvorak family celebrates traditionally on the
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29th of December. No, actually,
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John C Dvorak: traditionally, we actually celebrate on the first
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first of January, which is which was done in the 14th and 15th,
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or the 15th and 16th century by the two doors, they would always
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do it on the first and we feel this is more traditional. We
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might we believe in a traditional Christmas. So we do
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our gifts on the first of January.
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Adam Curry: And are they doing it all at your place? Or where's
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it taken? Everyone's gonna be here. Oh, that's nice, Eric, as
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well as you come on up from SD
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John C Dvorak: now. Eric's got his he says he's snowed in. Oh,
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he won't be able to come down. Of course, of course, to South
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Dakota. Oh my god, we're starting to talk like South
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Dakota.
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Adam Curry: That's a really he's doing that now. No, not yet.
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John C Dvorak: But it's coming. Well, I
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Adam Curry: thought I mean, there's a lot of news,
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obviously, I thought the the funniest and the most
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interesting and entertaining. And I have some some clips is
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the story that just tickles me. We
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Unknown: had some news just coming in this morning, the New
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York Times suing open AI, the creator of chat GPT, and
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Microsoft for copyright infringement. The time says
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millions of its articles were used to train chat bots that now
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compete with the times as a source of information, the
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papers, the defendants should be liable for billions of dollars
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in damages. Microsoft is an investor in open AI and has
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incorporated the technology into its Bing search actual
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big story. I don't know how they thought they're gonna get away
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with it. But
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you've seen the New York Times is maybe the biggest name in
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journalism so far to come out with this. But we've seen the
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concern from the actors and the writers when they were making
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sure that eye protection was written
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out that her novel was one of 30,000 ingested into a loan.
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Does she get paid for that? Should she be paid for that? I
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don't know the answer. Well,
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the New York Times is it saying yes, we use very strong
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copyright laws in this country,
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Adam Curry: very strong copyright laws and well, that
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what are you hemming and hawing about saying bull crap? What are
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you talking about? You see the lawsuit?
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John C Dvorak: I don't care about this. If I didn't have to
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see the lawsuit. What's the damages? Tell me? Oh, no,
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there's definitely no there's no damn Oh damages? What are no,
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there's no daily damages. What's the damage? Name damage? Well,
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okay.
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Adam Curry: First of all, I've looked at the lawsuit, which is
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interesting, because you can see that not just a couple of lines,
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but like entire paragraphs are literally just from the New York
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Times reporting. What they're saying is that Silicon Valley
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companies are paying for news in many countries, most notably
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Canada. Navia. And I believe Australia. And there's your
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damages. So you're now taking it for free and giving away for
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free in the chat bots. I think there's a case there. And you're
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the one that said that this was going to be the biggest lawsuits
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of the of the all time would be around this
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John C Dvorak: kitchen. I can't mock it. I'm not saying I didn't
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say that. Because what Now, and I went on about this before,
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which is that you everybody wants everything digitized, it
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was going to be the great in the 70s and 80s. As all they talked
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about the Giants information at your fingers, tip information,
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your fingertips, kind of muck, the trend, and everything was
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going to be digitized. And once they Google in particular
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started digitizing assorted Microsoft than ever, we got all
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up in Oh, they digitize my old book from 20 years ago that I
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haven't gotten 10 cents in royalties from for the last
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decade, but now I'm getting ripped off. Bull crap. Right.
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Adam Curry: But I think the New York Times has a different angle
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here. I
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John C Dvorak: know what their angle, you know, their angle is.
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I'm not buying it still. I hate to say that I'm gonna I'm not
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gonna say it again.
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Adam Curry: No, you really shouldn't. Because it's just not
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it's not I'm not gonna.
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John C Dvorak: I'm not no, I'm reckoning because I don't like
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the phrase. But But what is
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Adam Curry: interesting is fair use, which is, you know, this is
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what the AI companies are claiming. And fair use is, you
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know, it's probably about time this is properly examined.
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John C Dvorak: I understand the fair use issue. And I think it's
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an important one. But this idea that they found a whole
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paragraphs that were ripped off. I'm not believing it.
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Adam Curry: Absolutely true. What are you talking about? It's
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absolutely true. I went,
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John C Dvorak: and here's the reason you train the AI
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yourself. You've done it, and you end up pulling some full
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graphs out. This is not the normal thing that's going to
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happen.
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Adam Curry: Hey, why don't you go sit with Microsoft, you
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heathen? What are you why are you on the side of these guys,
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all of a sudden?
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John C Dvorak: I'm on this side of what's right. They
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Adam Curry: that these large language models are literally
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taken they suck to hear stories than just spouting and back this
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and with no change.
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John C Dvorak: If that's the case, then yes, you have an
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issue, but that's what
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Adam Curry: I'm saying they have these examples. In the lawsuit,
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they're showing these example.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, I know. But I might believe in these samples
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or
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Adam Curry: look at grok. If you if you ask grog tell me about
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John C. Dvorak on Twitter, you will say tweets that you
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recognize word for word of people saying You're horrible.
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You will recognize the the exact language this is this is what's
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so interesting is that it is a direct copy this direct copy.
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John C Dvorak: Well, if what you say is absolutely true, without
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any fudging or grok for God's say what a dog rat thing is,
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then yeah, okay. Yes. Go knock yourself out, but it's not going
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to help things and what about art? How you going to deal with
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that?
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Adam Curry: Well, what listen, if you go on Twitter, you sign a
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perpetual license over to x.com x Inc. That they can do whatever
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they want with what you post there. So that's not a problem.
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That's that you have already given away a license for them to
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suck that into grok. But the New York Times has not given anyone
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a license to suck that into Google above copilot the
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Microsoft and have that spit back when you're writing a
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PowerPoint present. I
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John C Dvorak: wish you all luck in the world in this lawsuit
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Adam Curry: the the four points that are substantive
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John C Dvorak: you yeah okay. Whose side are you on in this
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lawsuit? I'm I'm
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Adam Curry: on the side of the New York Times. I think they're
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right. I really do. Why would I be on the side of stupid ai i
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think it's stupid it's not interesting. It's not
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intelligent it's
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John C Dvorak: stupid AI is not intelligent Fishel stupidity as
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is as
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Adam Curry: it's a scam to get you know to fill up compute
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cycles it's bad for the environment.
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John C Dvorak: It is here's let's see. So is Bitcoin mining
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Adam Curry: I might add oh don't get me started on things you
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John C Dvorak: know nothing about young man itch all I know
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is I really started doing coin it's gonna kill us all well,
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Adam Curry: it'll kill you first. A sack the two are
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actually related. Because the Bitcoin miners you know, there's
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ASICs very specific chips that they use for Bitcoin mining they
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are they're all now looking to creating AI chips which once
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this AI bubble burst and everyone figures out it's a
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humongous stupid scam. These AI chips will be turned right
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around and be super efficient for Bitcoin mining. It's gonna
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be great because there's just going to be all this compute
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laying around that no one wants to use more.
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John C Dvorak: The ducks. Yeah, there's animals that are going
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to be hurt by this climate change and my goodness caused by
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all this oh my god, mind you going to bed
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Adam Curry: and get up again. You're on the wrong side of
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history.
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John C Dvorak: You're on the right side of history. Let's
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Adam Curry: let's In the CBS they had they had an interesting
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conversation. Maybe we can mock them.
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Unknown: The New York Times has just filed a potentially
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important lawsuit against Microsoft and open AI claiming
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their artificial intelligence chat bots are taking web traffic
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away from the papers on website. Senior Business and tech
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correspondent Jolene Kent joins us now and Jolene. Good morning
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to you. Can
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you dive in and tell us with this out? Yeah, JB Good morning.
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This is a real pivotal moment for AI. The New York Times is
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the first major media company to sue Microsoft and open AI, the
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maker of chat GPT for copyright infringement, using millions of
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times articles to train its chat bots, which now compete and they
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can compete directly with the newspaper. Now, this complaint
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was filed in the Southern District of New York. And It
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alleges that both companies are taking a quote, free ride on the
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times that massive investment in its journalism by using it to
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build substitutive products without permission or payment.
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Now the lawsuit specifically names chat GPT and Microsoft's
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Bing chat and says that while they engaged in widescale
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copying from many sources, they gave times content particular
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emphasis now Microsoft declining to comment to CBS News, but open
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AI did send us this statement saying in part, we respect the
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rights of content creators and owners and are committed to
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working with them. Our ongoing conversations with the New York
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Times have been productive and moving forward constructively.
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So we are surprised and disappointed with this
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developers
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John C Dvorak: like that, always like this. I'm surprised and
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disappointed.
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Adam Curry: Well, you know, Apple is is now they've they've
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released news that they are exploring a ideals with news
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publishers you want apple is going to come out ahead on this
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after being the laggard, because they're just gonna go and
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license it. And this This, by the way, is not anything
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intelligent. This just oh, it's like a big database. Oh, give me
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the latest news on this topic. it'll spit it back. And we all
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go whoo, whoo. Hey, I Whoo, that's so impressive. They
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continue this conversation, CBS about the impact of the
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lawsuits, which is what you'd be interested in
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Unknown: joing. Help me understand what kind of impact
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could this lawsuit have? Yeah,
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depending on what the court finds it could force AI
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companies to change the way they train their artificial
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intelligence, which are called those large language models,
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that there are big legal questions whether the facts that
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make up the New York Times reporting are even eligible for
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copyright to begin with Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Lessig
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told me on the phone yesterday that AI is use of the New York
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Times reporting may actually fall under the doctrine of fair
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use, that's a legal defense that are used copyrighted material,
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maybe he's without permission under certain circumstances.
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Now, of course, this could undercut the times his argument
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against open AI and Microsoft, by the way, guys, this is not
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the first lawsuit we've seen from copyright holders. We've
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seen book authors, comedians, major music companies, they've
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all sued generative AI companies for similar types of concerns
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about how they're training our models. And meantime, we've seen
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other news media companies strike business partnerships
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with open AI to license news stories, but it could be
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billions of dollars of damages on the line here,
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Adam Curry: you guys, you guys. So that's where the problem
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comes in fair use, which is interest is interesting to us,
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too. I mean, this, us playing this, we consider that to be
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fair use, which I think we can defend. But
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John C Dvorak: but we're playing this as a more traditional, yes.
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Well established Fair Use principles. Yes. Yes. Let's just
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play the the thing that's going on now with the AI is not
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established as fair use principles. So it has the
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correct term and by a court. Yeah. And I think if I think if
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Lessig is, he's kind of go ahead. Well, he's the guy who
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started Creative Commons. I know the ID. I know. I know. Pretty
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much let everything be let the information must be freezed and
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grew
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Adam Curry: up. That's not true. I defend Creative Commons in
19:09
court and one. Yeah, Creative Commons is not about Let
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everything be free. It's no
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John C Dvorak: but that's his mentality. He would like it to
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be freed. No. Creative Commons does have some restrictions. And
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you did win a case the
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Adam Curry: case. First picture first case,
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John C Dvorak: there's a mate. Yeah, you're a groundbreaker.
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That's why everyone hates you
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Adam Curry: that's why I'm poor. You
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John C Dvorak: stole MTV and then you got this lawsuit and
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you know, you're never gonna get have friends. So so the design
19:43
is is that somebody stole a photo of you when you were I
19:46
think smoking pot in a plane or some I can't remember some
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screwy. Yeah. And close use use use. You totally took them to
19:55
court over there. I think with some European publication.
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They're just right. ag willy nilly stealing stuff took it
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off. You put a stop to it good for you. I'd ever wanted to
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congratulate you. Yeah. Well, thank
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Adam Curry: you for that. But Lawrence Lessig back me up in
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that. So he wasn't all I mean the whole time.
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John C Dvorak: I know Lord, Lord, Larry Larry. Yeah, right.
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Well,
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Adam Curry: okay. Well, I know him. I know him quite well.
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John C Dvorak: He had lunch with him.
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Adam Curry: He, he's had a sleepover at my house once Does
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that count? Okay.
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Unknown: It was really fascinating reporting, because
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the fair use doctrine of media is one that is employed across
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media industrialism, you know, where you say, hey, there's
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something that was reported by another news organization, we're
20:38
going to show it to you. We're going to credit that news
20:40
organization. It's a very legal. It's
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really, though about the investment that these companies
20:48
buy into. Well, I think we have to have a better understanding,
20:50
though, of how these all work.
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Adam Curry: All right. They don't even know themselves the
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dummies. Have no idea. No idea. There was just fun stuff out
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there. What can I do while away
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John C Dvorak: we just stopped for say, we have to mention
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we're working today. And we're working on New Year's Eve and
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all the show I was I would just flip it around and maybe get a
21:13
last minute clip this one I turn on the wood out number this show
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on Fox where they have
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Adam Curry: Wow, you went from the the masked singer to
21:23
outnumbered No wonder you're cranky.
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John C Dvorak: So I'm watching out number. There's not one
21:28
person on their sub Tammy Bruce, who kind of you know, couldn't
21:32
be on vacation, but she's kind of on vacation most of the time.
21:35
Does that note? Nobody? It's just all, you know, leftovers.
21:39
It's terrible. Beatbox. We'll put anybody on
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Adam Curry: that we don't have a beat Team. We don't have a beat
21:44
Team. That's That's why we need the Podcast Awards. So we could
21:47
get a beat. We could take take it, we could produce the show
21:51
and take the day off. That's what we what is the point of the
21:54
no agenda Podcast Awards. So we can take a day off and just roll
21:57
the tape and have a pre produce
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John C Dvorak: show. That's how we get into a separate and above
22:03
the Oh, wow.
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Adam Curry: So I just created more work for us.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you did get. I was getting surprised.
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Adam Curry: I just said it was a couple of weeks before we leave
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the AI thing that was something else that I was gonna say about
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this? Oh, yes. The Tony Blair Institute, which came out with
22:24
its 10 policy priorities for global leaders in 2024.
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John C Dvorak: What the hell's the Tony Blair Institute? Well,
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it's
22:33
Adam Curry: clearly before, but you know, they give advice to
22:36
leaders to Tony Blair's a player Tony Blair. Oh, yeah, he's a
22:41
player.
22:42
John C Dvorak: He's a player. Yeah.
22:43
Adam Curry: I mean, hey, look, he's a lot smarter than we are.
22:46
He's making money off. bullcrap. So number five policymakers
22:51
maintain momentum on AI, even if even if public interest dips.
22:58
And he says Big changes are Colet, the bottom here it is.
23:01
Big changes are coming, even if they are not evident right now.
23:04
So policymakers should keep working on the deployment and
23:08
regulation of AI. And in particular act fast to ensure
23:12
access to compute capacity, their country needs to compete.
23:17
So
23:17
John C Dvorak: what are these big changes he's talking about?
23:19
If he if he says Big changes are coming, he must have an inkling
23:23
of what these changes might be? What are they?
23:26
Adam Curry: You know that he doesn't need to say that he's
23:28
Tony Blair? But he's doing it?
23:30
John C Dvorak: Yes. No. So He's clueless. He's just throwing out
23:32
memes. I know what he does
23:34
Adam Curry: is he sells you a contract to Microsoft Azure.
23:37
That's what he's doing here. Hello, public services. He's,
23:41
John C Dvorak: he's become a middleman for Microsoft
23:43
services. Yes. Yes.
23:45
Adam Curry: And Google let us do public service, six public
23:49
services start to serve the people that I gotta read this
23:52
graph. Countries are experimenting in different ways
23:55
with applying technology to public services to make them
23:59
more user friendly, responsive and efficient. But stop.
24:06
John C Dvorak: Okay, so when I was a kid, and I was going to
24:10
University of California, Berkeley, we're already good.
24:12
We're a clued in everybody was the big deal was and this was
24:16
back in the day. And it continues. The United States is
24:20
going to very slowly evolved from being a manufacturing
24:23
company to a service company where everything's gonna be
24:26
service. Yeah, service service service, like right, so Well, no
24:31
deputy, almost any kind of service. I think the peak of
24:34
service end, I think peak service ended with a product
24:38
called WordPerfect, which was a word processor that came out out
24:43
of Utah and the they had a service department you could
24:47
call them get anything answered, read aloud.
24:49
Adam Curry: WordPerfect 4.2. That was the standard.
24:53
John C Dvorak: It was actually the probably the biggest word
24:55
das legal standard
24:56
Adam Curry: for my company, public and 96. It was The
25:00
John C Dvorak: big deal and of course they get bought out
25:02
fooled into something fooled into something else next thing
25:05
you know that Microsoft products run in everything but there is
25:08
no service so the garbage This is garbage week. I thought it's
25:13
if they're gonna move the garbage in they're starting to
25:16
pick up garbage this morning and I'm saying wait a minute this
25:18
was to move it up a week I call them I'm on hold forever to a
25:22
recording and don't forget then your put your bags and the bags
25:25
and the bags, and it goes on and on and on. Nobody ever picks up
25:28
I have to finally hang up. It's like you. You can't even get to
25:33
a receptionist anymore because there are no receptionist has
25:35
all these machines and press two if you wrote Have you speak
25:40
Spanish is unbelievable. Ours we suck at service. We're the
25:45
country's going down the tubes because of this.
25:48
Adam Curry: Well, I disagree respectfully. Because I love
25:52
saying because that means fu basically Fu Fu so we are live
26:00
in unincorporated Fredericksburg. We're right
26:02
outside city services, so we don't get any service from the
26:06
city. However, for $92 A quarter, which is $30 a month,
26:12
we have Gillespie Waste Services. And they they call me
26:17
they say hey, we're gonna come on Tuesday today after
26:19
Christmas. If I forgot to put up my trash one day I caught text
26:23
the guy he's like, no problem. We'll swing back on the way home
26:26
we'll pick it up then for you service. Perfect service.
26:32
John C Dvorak: One example out of 1000s genuinely
26:35
Adam Curry: transformative progress relies on connecting
26:37
the many silos of information to deliver proactive support to the
26:41
people who need it. reducing waste there you go, while
26:45
maximizing while maximizing service value. This requires a
26:51
common infrastructure and identity system. Yeah, Tony you
26:56
tell them that's what they want identity system. Yes, yes.
27:01
Hello, citizen. Devorah like what's your ID number? You want
27:06
Hey, remember Lotus jazz? Oh, yeah, that was Lotus jazz man
27:12
that that was that was the sweet that was the sweet you needed to
27:15
have mm hmm
27:19
John C Dvorak: was it Lotus jazz the incorporating there was one
27:22
version of their spreadsheet that was open ended they just
27:27
throw numbers on the screen and it would put it there was no
27:30
cells remember that that product? There were candles that
27:33
were falling in love with that thing and they couldn't sustain
27:35
it? I don't know what why it died but it died completely
27:38
Well,
27:38
Adam Curry: what I remember is you had to insert your original
27:42
disk every single time to run it and eventually those floppies
27:45
the three and a half inch floppies just didn't work
27:48
anymore and so you lose your access to the program that's
27:52
what I remember Lotus jazz being a problem yeah, because people
27:56
might copy it you know steal it Please steal Yeah,
28:01
John C Dvorak: that's no good was like the keys remember that
28:03
USB key how many
28:05
Adam Curry: keys yet is sticking a key for everything? Yeah,
28:08
John C Dvorak: a while
28:10
Adam Curry: was no good. None of those good. That was good.
28:14
Anyway, we have a new freakout happening online, which is of
28:19
course something that I love to research this was truly truly
28:24
amazing the text messages were flying people are posting about
28:28
this everywhere. I have two examples guys, this you know
28:32
whenever a cute blonde starts off with Oh guys, guys, guys,
28:37
something's going on. Guys,
28:38
Unknown: guys. This is truly insane. T Mobile has just
28:43
updated their terms of service and now if you post any content
28:48
they don't agree with they will find you and they have an
28:52
acronym called shaft. This stands for alcohol, firearms and
28:57
tobacco. This is going to be implemented on January 1, and
29:01
the finds that they will find you is in the 1000s I had no
29:05
idea that we lived in China. Since when does it company get
29:10
to determine what you are allowed to talk about in a
29:13
private text message to a friend. This should not only
29:17
disturb you but this should make you want to take action. If you
29:22
have TMobile switch now and if they are doing this How long do
29:27
you think it's going to be before they start fact checking
29:30
our text messages? Oh, this
29:32
Adam Curry: is an outrage. They're fact they're gonna fact
29:34
check our messages. They're reading our text messages. You
29:37
gotta drop T Mobile right now. And of course we all know this
29:41
is really Joe Biden
29:43
Unknown: breaking news.
29:49
Adam Curry: I love people who think that they're breaking news
29:52
when they're on tick tock breaking
29:55
Unknown: news, breaking news right here in Jo vi He's
30:00
America, he's allowed major cell phone provider T Mobile, to read
30:05
your private text messages and find you up to $3,500. If you
30:13
say mean things they don't like. It's called shaft is a system
30:17
they're using their human Shemitah. Shad is saying stands
30:20
for some acronym that stands for six hate alcohol, farms and
30:24
tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages,
30:27
specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is
30:30
monitored and enforced by the cellular telephone Industries
30:34
Association. This will all begin on January 1 2024. You know,
30:40
like, I know, they're going to target conservatives. They're
30:44
going to target anybody that was that went about getting that
30:47
forced medical procedure. They're gonna talk to anybody
30:49
that questions. Anytime that targeting, if you question
30:53
anything government, they're going to target you, they're
30:57
going to find you up to $3,500. Now they're saying that is to
31:02
prevent porn, guns, illegal drugs, all of that they snuck in
31:09
that one word, the Democrats love hate speech. And you know,
31:13
like, I know, hate speech is nothing more than pro Trump,
31:18
anti Joe Biden, there it is anti Democrat, pro conservative.
31:22
That's hate speech as far as these major corporations go.
31:26
Adam Curry: And this guy just goes on and on. So just just
31:29
hearing this, John, from your breaking news source on tick
31:31
tock, what is your takeaway that you think is happening here with
31:34
this shaft?
31:37
John C Dvorak: Well, obviously the I mean, this is unfamiliar
31:40
to me, but it's obvious by the name shaft that is done is
31:43
somebody did this as a joke, but I think it might have actually
31:46
been directed by Verizon or some dirty tricks operation one of
31:51
the other companies.
31:53
Adam Curry: Interestingly enough, this has already been in
31:55
place since 2022. And it is a part of the US telecom carriers
32:02
association agreement. So this is across the board. So it's not
32:06
new. It's just you know, someone saw T Mobile update their terms
32:11
of service. And they went into on freakout mode. Shaft isn't it
32:15
isn't real accurate is called shaft it is yes, sex, hate
32:19
alcohol, firearms, tobacco, but it's not between users. It is
32:24
for the A to P application. So if you pay T Mobile to text
32:30
people, you know, such as Governor Greg Abbott does to me.
32:35
That's what an A to P application is. So they've set
32:39
rules in place for what you can basically
32:42
John C Dvorak: Yes, yeah. For advertisers. Yes.
32:45
Adam Curry: Exactly. This is nothing, nothing new. Nothing. I
32:49
mean, I love the shaft acronym. That's funny. Yes, pretty
32:53
dubious in Canada. No, it's I have all the documents it'd be
32:57
John C Dvorak: just saying Why would you come up with a acronym
33:00
like that?
33:01
Adam Curry: Well, that's somebody having a drink at the
33:03
meeting and having some fun, obviously, but it has nothing to
33:08
do with your text messages to your friends or anything like
33:11
that. But everyone flies off.
33:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, it could happen
33:17
Adam Curry: though. But but here's the joke of it. Focus on
33:20
that you numbnuts the government has everything you send anyway.
33:25
Who are you kidding it's it's it's published it's known the
33:30
NSA has every single text message a recording ever
33:33
John C Dvorak: make a phone call? I'm down in Utah with
33:36
Denver Now all they have to
33:37
Adam Curry: do is just type in your number and up comes all
33:39
your information. People are so your texts stupid. And then just
33:45
everyone's free?
33:45
John C Dvorak: Nobody ever complains about this, of course.
33:49
Adam Curry: Isn't that beautiful? And of course I'm
33:51
sure AT and T and Verizon are loving it. Oh, yeah. Canceled T
33:55
Mobile were the good guys show. Don't tell anybody, if
33:59
hilarious. Hilarious how the just everyone freaks out over
34:03
this. And it propagate. No one took three seconds to read what
34:07
it was about. And this is from no agenda people to. Yeah, well
34:14
on that, in that vein, save the world in that vein. The Missouri
34:19
versus Biden lawsuit. This has gone to the Supreme Court. This
34:24
is about the government telling social media companies to censor
34:32
posts to take accounts down particularly during COVID and of
34:36
course during Trump, and we expected that there would be
34:40
some amicus briefs over this. While there were 19 amicus
34:44
briefs, EB two, actually, in support of the government.
34:49
John C Dvorak: Explain what that is to people who don't know.
34:52
Adam Curry: So an amicus brief in this case the Supreme Court
34:55
is eventually probably a couple of years down the road. It is
35:00
going to make a decision and say, You know what the
35:03
government read the Biden administration specifically, but
35:06
also parts of the Trump administration violated your
35:10
first amendment right as the government by sense by telling
35:13
commercial companies threatening them, you better take that down,
35:19
or we just might have to do something about section 203. And
35:22
that might ruin your business. So that, of course, is a blatant
35:25
violation of the First Amendment. So an amicus brief is
35:30
interested parties who, for whatever reason, have an
35:36
interest in this process, either never happening again or
35:40
continuing to happen. So they send in a friend of the court
35:44
letter, amicus brief. So we have two that are that are all for
35:49
it, they think is really good, including the Lawyers Committee
35:53
for Civil Rights Under Law, common cause and leadership, the
35:57
conference on civil and human rights. They said, they suggest
36:03
the First Amendment exists to allow the government to protect
36:06
its own people from harassment and to prevent private citizens
36:10
from making false statements. They actually put that into an
36:14
amicus brief and send it to the Supreme Court. Wow. Then no
36:19
surprise, this group, the American Academy of Pediatrics,
36:24
American Medical Association, American Academy of Family
36:27
Physicians, American College of Physicians and American
36:30
Geriatric Society. They say, well, they, according to our
36:36
constitutional lawyer, Rob, this brief takes no position on where
36:39
the government improperly coerce the platforms. It addresses only
36:42
whether that coercion actually violated the First Amendment.
36:45
That is whether Biden and CO had a compelling interest to squash
36:49
private citizen speech, it argues that a compelling
36:52
interest indeed existed, because approved vaccines are safe and
36:55
effective. Can you believe it? Yeah, I
37:01
John C Dvorak: can't believe me,
37:03
Adam Curry: the audacity.
37:04
John C Dvorak: They just never let up. They see the lawsuits
37:08
looming in this nun. And we're going to keep this going to I
37:11
just
37:11
Adam Curry: find it amazing, amazing that they that they that
37:15
they say these things.
37:19
John C Dvorak: Anyway, there are people I think the majority of
37:23
the public as a matter of fact, that will lead to the death,
37:27
which could be any minute for them. That the vaccines are safe
37:32
and effective.
37:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. That's SIOP worked very well. It
37:40
really, in fact, I have a I think I have a report here.
37:45
Yeah, this is a short one. That just to prove your point short
37:47
one
37:48
Unknown: from the flu to COVID. It's that time of year when more
37:51
people get sick. But a new study reveals the biggest risk for
37:54
children. RSV researchers found kids are far more likely to be
37:57
hospitalized for RSV than for the flu or COVID. The study
38:01
looked at nearly 2600 children and found kids with RSV were 11
38:05
times more likely to be hospitalized and kids with
38:07
COVID. The CDC says the study confirms the importance of
38:11
vaccines.
38:14
Adam Curry: So the study is not about vaccines. It just confirms
38:17
vaccines are important. Your CDC, the people are supposed to
38:22
protect you
38:24
John C Dvorak: know that I could have protected you had to be a
38:26
clip, put a smile on my face. I'm
38:28
Adam Curry: glad that it did. Hey, just just to wrap this up.
38:35
It's kind of back and forth here. But as of January 1,
38:39
Mickey Mouse, the original Steamboat Willie, Mickey Mouse,
38:42
I think will finally enter the public domain. Then people are
38:47
thinking this is great. We're going to do all kinds of stuff
38:50
with Mickey Mouse and I'm thinking you better not. You bet
38:54
don't send an art with Mickey Mouse we're not going to do
38:57
we're not so we're not gonna use it. That's for sure. No, because
39:00
Disney will come after you no matter. This is the way it works
39:04
isn't your Disney got a 20 year extension, which was 20 years
39:07
ago on Mickey Mouse and they did that through all kinds of
39:11
lobbyists. In fact, Boston had Sonny Bono who helped Disney
39:16
extend that copyright? It could be wouldn't surprise I think it
39:19
when they killed him.
39:20
John C Dvorak: That's probably the reason that just any bonus
39:23
not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. How does that work?
39:26
Adam Curry: That's a good point.
39:27
John C Dvorak: That's Waller I think is if there's all these
39:29
rappers that are in rock and roll quote unquote, Abba Abba.
39:35
was in the right. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding.
39:37
Sonny Bono is not and Cher is not. Are you sure about that?
39:41
Oh, yeah. Because the reason I say I'm sure about it, because
39:44
Cher was just on the Kelly Clarkson show and moaning and
39:48
groaning abandoned seat and now she says they've been give her a
39:51
million bucks. She won't. She won't accept it. Wow. She's
39:56
quite pissed off about it. I
39:57
Adam Curry: can't believe what you're watching. Yes, share slam
40:00
His Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for snub snub
40:04
John C Dvorak: trying to keep up with the culture unlike you. Oh,
40:07
Adam Curry: okay. Yeah, well, I'm glad you're doing that. Yes,
40:10
John C Dvorak: that's why I'm complaining about things. It's
40:14
safe and if I'm not happy, share snubbed. And then of course
40:19
there's the guitar player. What's his name? That right wing
40:22
guy who'd never got if for some unknown reason it Nugent. Ted
40:26
Nugent should have anybody so rock and roll guy. It's Ted
40:31
Nugent.
40:34
Adam Curry: It's correct. He won't even accept it
40:36
John C Dvorak: anymore. People wonder well, why? Why would you
40:39
already been snubbed? You know,
40:41
Adam Curry: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame back in the day
40:43
when I was a kid back in the MTV days late 80s. And the very
40:47
early 90s it was a it was a real thing. It was at the Waldorf
40:51
Astoria in New York, it was private. There were no
40:54
television cameras allowed inside. It was not videotaped.
40:58
We didn't have cell phone cameras. You could bring in your
41:01
your instamatic. You know, remember those with a little
41:04
flash cube on top. And it was great. Everybody was dressed
41:10
Lashon Q. Everybody was dressed up in in tuxedos you know, Phil
41:17
Spector before he was arrested and died. Mick Jagger would be
41:21
all be eating rubber chicken and pretending Oh, rubber chicken
41:24
has good beer and was it was really nice. And Paul Paul
41:28
Shaffer from Letterman's band, he would organize an actual jam
41:32
which was a jam was unrehearsed and the all these guys just
41:36
jumped on stage and played along and had a good time. And
41:39
nowadays are over that. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Now it's like
41:42
it's a show. It's on HBO. It's highly productive Republicans.
41:47
No, no, no agent. No. Sonny Bono. No, share. The end. It's
41:52
an it's an it has its shadow of what it used to be. You had to
41:56
pay $2,000 a seat. That was the old days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
42:03
guys would buy a table, you know? 20 grand for 10 people.
42:06
But I got invited though. I got invited.
42:08
John C Dvorak: I'm sure you did. You didn't have to test this for
42:10
Oh,
42:11
Adam Curry: nope. No, I got in a fight with regular you busy
42:15
suing everybody. No, that was before those times they sued me
42:18
first. Okay, so the first
42:22
John C Dvorak: thing they did was unfair. You hate I know.
42:27
Other people have done the same thing. What? What John Markoff,
42:30
for example, got ny t.com. Yeah. Before the New York Times knew
42:35
what the hell was going on. And then they let it slide forever.
42:40
And then they've all of a sudden knew what kind of wanted it
42:42
because he caved. It wasn't like, you
42:46
Adam Curry: know, they they didn't add if they'd asked me, I
42:49
would have said, Okay, can I just have adam@mtv.com could
42:53
just keep the email alias. But they didn't ask me. They serve
42:57
me papers on a Saturday morning. And I said, You know what? Screw
43:00
you. I'm gonna countersue you. Then I did. And then we then we
43:06
split day
43:06
John C Dvorak: did and I hate to use the word because I'm
43:08
condemned for cussing too much. That sounds like there are a
43:11
bunch of chicken shits. Yeah,
43:13
Adam Curry: no, that's how you can use that word. That's fine.
43:15
That's fine. They were and the whole thing was dumb. It was
43:20
just dumb. But there was this lawyers. Lawyers, we get too
43:24
many lawyers. Sorry, lawyers. But we got too many of you
43:29
John C Dvorak: know, nothing was listening to our show. Now we
43:31
have those are good lawyers. Obviously. They're all good
43:33
lawyers. You're dynamite lawyer. We have some tremendous haiku.
43:37
What else we have? We have a bunch of Navy guys. Yeah. And
43:42
including, and I have some we want to talk about fat leonard
43:45
for a sec. Oh,
43:45
Adam Curry: you got the note. Be careful to protect? No, I've got
43:49
three notes. Okay. Protect all their identities because I got
43:53
three
43:53
John C Dvorak: notes. Well, this one is. He's only so much
43:56
protection, because he's actually he's the Knight of the
43:58
deep blue sea. And I think that's all we need to say. Yeah.
44:03
He says, Hi, John. I'm a Navy Supply Corps officer, the fat
44:07
leonard scandal took down several high ranking Supply
44:10
Corps officers. About a decade ago, by the way, I started
44:13
looking into this and people should go look at the fat
44:16
leonard entry into Wikipedia. And you can see the whole
44:20
timeline. And it starts with Paul Wolfowitz. Oh, really? And
44:24
the band the Bush administration, and it goes
44:27
right into about halfway through the first Obama administration.
44:31
Interesting, disgusting. 60 admirals were involved were
44:37
somehow involved 60 admirals where are they? This is this is
44:42
an untold scandal.
44:44
Adam Curry: How can How come that didn't I don't remember any
44:46
news about that? Of
44:47
John C Dvorak: course not. It was suppressed. My favorite
44:50
story was a lieutenant who was the supply officer on a
44:53
submarine. When a ship pulls into a foreign port. The ship
44:57
sends a logistics request called the Law Grech too short to ask
45:02
for all the things it needs. Things like the browser to walk
45:06
across the shoreline power lines, mooring lines, etc. This
45:10
one particular supply officer would ask for certain flavors of
45:13
cheesecake. Which was good for hookers.
45:18
Adam Curry: Oh, cheese cake and pizza, lemon
45:21
John C Dvorak: cheesecake. Many Asian girls, chocolate men,
45:24
black girls, no idea. No
45:26
Adam Curry: way.
45:27
John C Dvorak: This guy would sign the invoices for trash
45:30
removal, water delivery sanitary. This was by the way,
45:33
this is one of three or four notes we've gotten from these
45:35
different Navy guys. Yeah. And they all say the same thing.
45:38
They all knew this was going on sewer remover, etc. For a month
45:42
that were in excess of what was actually removed or delivered to
45:45
pay for his hookers, hotel room, et cetera, et cetera, even had
45:49
fat leonard fly his family out to some ports as a vacation.
45:53
Nice. There was a ton of malfeasance going on back then.
45:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got I got a note here about women and booze,
46:00
fur coats, Rolex watches concert tickets. Like a media buyer.
46:07
John C Dvorak: What's weird about to me is these Navy guys,
46:10
officers, many of them a lot of officers. They can't get their
46:14
own damn hookers. I mean, there are sailors and they can't find
46:19
a whore. Give me a break.
46:22
Adam Curry: They didn't want to pay for him. Well, okay, well,
46:25
there's that. Okay, well, since we've gone lewd
46:34
John C Dvorak: I don't know what's lewd about I think this
46:36
is the scandal is so enormous. And it's been so covered up in
46:40
the media, although the Washington Post did a really
46:42
good job on it. And they just named names and they named some
46:46
of the admirals, they're still they're still looking at you're
46:48
probably bring him in. Most of the admirals have retired. But
46:51
how does this happen? This is like the biggest breach? Well,
46:56
and he read, we only read about it in that wiki page. It's
46:59
disgusting. The
47:00
Adam Curry: question is, how come this is the only one we've
47:03
uncovered? Well,
47:04
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's others. Yeah. And this and this
47:07
is why the Pentagon needs to be audited.
47:12
Adam Curry: Good luck with that. Yeah, they
47:14
John C Dvorak: can't audit the Pentagon. They can audit the
47:16
Navy. This is the taxpayers are getting ripped off on a daily
47:20
basis. In fact, I had a clip on a couple of shows ago, I didn't
47:24
play it. It's the the what's it called? Festivus report. Fancy
47:32
lookup Festivus singing and find it. This is the report that that
47:38
Rand Paul likes to bring out every year and it's about
47:41
government waste, and he cites a bunch of government waste
47:44
Adam Curry: this three clips from past Festivus I can't seem
47:47
to
47:47
John C Dvorak: figure out which one is about to report.
47:51
Adam Curry: This one I think first of all, I says back No,
47:53
not that one. No, no. Would it be it would be called Festivus
48:00
because I'm looking at Festivus and I don't
48:02
John C Dvorak: I thought it was called Festivus. Now it doesn't
48:05
seem bolitho Rand Paul maybe isn't that Yeah. Anyway, he did
48:12
not figure it out and bring it back to the next Sunday show.
48:15
Okay, if I can find it. But the this is this goes on forever and
48:21
nobody seems to care. No, and then you know, your taxes go
48:26
Unknown: up. Yeah.
48:29
John C Dvorak: And up for you're just throwing money at hookers.
48:35
Adam Curry: As I said as we're being lured, let's listen to a
48:38
caller from C span Democrat line. Ryan
48:41
Unknown: is also from California Democrats line. I Pedro Yeah,
48:47
this is Ryan from California. I want I want to be bipartisan.
48:53
And you guys did gave some grades a couple of weeks back.
48:58
And I never got in but I'd like to give an A to my brothers in
49:03
the Republican Party. And I think the Democratic Party has
49:09
gotten a little crazy. And I think in some ways they're
49:12
trying to destroy this country. So I'm glad for their checks and
49:16
balances and I'd like to give them an A for doing that even
49:20
though they haven't been very productive. It's checks and
49:23
balances that's how this country works. This constitution works.
49:28
But I also want to get my Democrats credit to and I want
49:33
to give them an A in the Senate for doing anal. you in the butt
49:39
viewers. They're in California.
49:42
Adam Curry: Shaggy Dog he hold on a long time. Just seeing the
49:49
guy's face on C
49:51
John C Dvorak: span guys had to put up with this.
49:55
Adam Curry: I thought that was a banger. That was great. You know
49:59
he wasn't a Democrat from California?
50:02
John C Dvorak: No, of course there's some joker.
50:05
Adam Curry: Now, now this this is something quite serious.
50:09
Because this may affect a lot of things. A question came up
50:14
during a town hall on CNN for Nikki Haley. And now this is the
50:20
CNN report about it. And it's, of course, it's edited to make
50:25
her look even worse than it was. But not only did she blow it on
50:30
this, I think this is a question that we will see coming back
50:33
time and time and time again, for every Republican candidate
50:38
for any office. This will be the question,
50:40
Unknown: Abby, an awkward moment at this rally here in Berlin
50:44
when Nikki Haley was asked about the cause the origins in the
50:47
Civil War, she seemed tripped up by the question and suggested
50:52
that it was about the government and personal freedoms. The
50:56
questioner then called her out for neglecting to raise the
51:00
issue of slavery. Take a listen to the exchange. What was the
51:04
cause of the United States Civil War?
51:13
Well, don't come with an easy question. Right. I mean, I think
51:15
the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was
51:18
going to run the freedoms and what people could and couldn't
51:21
do. What do you think the cause of the Civil War was? Oh, bad.
51:29
I'm sorry. Slavery. I mean, I think it always comes down to
51:39
the role of government.
51:43
Adam Curry: Dope, Ericom.
51:45
Unknown: What do you want me to say about slavery? Next
51:52
question. She's done. She's
51:56
Adam Curry: Toast. Toast.
51:59
John C Dvorak: Not Have you bring this up once in a while on
52:01
the show. I want to refer people to a book called The causes of
52:06
the Civil War, I think is yes, the title. Yes. I Kenneth stamp.
52:11
Sta M. P. P. Kenneth. Stan was professor at Cal. And he was an
52:17
expert on the topic. And he wrote a book which discusses
52:21
this in great detail, based on what was what people were
52:25
saying, at the time, and since then, and it's quite
52:28
enlightening, because there's more than one reason is
52:32
definitely in there. But it's not the key reason, at least in
52:35
this book, and I would, and it's, it'll educate you
52:38
somewhat, but you have to enter in today's world. If you're
52:42
running for president, you have to say slavery, yes, period,
52:48
whether true or not. And so go to the Canada stamp book, and
52:51
you'll get
52:52
Adam Curry: a well, I get education abbreviation of the
52:55
Canada stamp book, which might be helpful. The Civil War grew
52:59
out of longstanding tensions and disagreements about American
53:02
life and politics. By the way, we have to understand that at
53:05
the time slavery was normal, it's very difficult for people
53:10
to transport their head into that today. For more than 80
53:14
years, people in the northern and southern states had been
53:17
debating the issues that ultimately led to war, economic
53:20
policies and practices, cultural values, the extent and reach of
53:24
the federal government, government, and most
53:27
importantly, the role of slavery within American society. Against
53:30
the backdrop of these larger issues, individual soldiers had
53:33
their own reasons for fighting. Their motivations often included
53:37
a complex mix of personal social, economic, and political
53:40
values that didn't necessarily match the aims expressed by the
53:43
respective governments. And there was a succession. There's
53:48
a lot of stuff that went on, but if you don't, and I think we
53:52
should, as the creative or consulting group, I think we
53:54
should have an answer that Republicans can use because
53:58
they're going to fail on this every single time. They take
54:02
John C Dvorak: her approach. Of course they are Shouldn't they
54:04
just say,
54:05
Adam Curry: well, Democrats at the time, and that's how I would
54:07
start off with Democrats like slavery. That's how I would
54:10
start. Yeah,
54:11
John C Dvorak: that's beautiful. Going in consulting mode, that
54:15
is absolutely the way to start it. Yeah. Just you got to stay.
54:18
The Democrat dominated south which we're all in on slaves as
54:22
the Democrats are to this day. Well, maybe you can't go that
54:25
far. Easy. Boy. You can you can get close.
54:30
Adam Curry: Yes, they like
54:31
John C Dvorak: to keep the black population under the under foot.
54:35
Yes,
54:35
Adam Curry: this is the answer. I mean, any any version of that
54:38
as how you want to answer the question. And then you can say
54:42
and but you should just start off by saying, well, we all know
54:44
the time the Democrats love slavery, and they wanted to keep
54:47
it going. There were other things at play. And then years
54:51
go on and it doesn't matter what you say from that point on. It
54:53
would be perfect because there's no there's no refuting that.
54:57
You're and Lincoln was our President, our Republic. imprint
55:00
had to
55:01
John C Dvorak: bring in a Republican which was a new party
55:03
at the time to fake white
55:05
Adam Curry: to fight for the fix the racist Democrats are
55:09
John C Dvorak: races Democrats and to you know, yeah, there's
55:13
wait yeah, you could definitely create a dialogue that would be
55:18
dynamite. But no, I may lick what Ramaswamy would probably go
55:23
in that direction but he's flat footed. She's no good toast,
55:27
man.
55:27
Adam Curry: I think she's toast over that one.
55:29
John C Dvorak: I think so too.
55:30
Adam Curry: That's just uh, she can't get anything done now. She
55:32
just and then when she says What would you like me to say about
55:35
slave that's why don't you give me any bad oh my god who was
55:40
running her campaign?
55:42
John C Dvorak: Well as fired, Mr. Fired it's clip here. This
55:48
is off to dub off topic but it brings in to bring these two
55:51
clips. Okay. This is the sewage test around schools clip.
55:58
Unknown: New Mexico is one of the very first states in the US
56:01
to have started drug testing its public schools wastewater their
56:05
range of opioids and stimulants. A Wall Street Journal report
56:10
looks into some of the data released earlier this month. Out
56:13
of more than three dozen high schools. Cocaine was found in
56:17
nearly 82% of campus communities, and many schools
56:21
also detected opioids like fentanyl, oxycodone, and
56:25
codeine. The author of that article Sarah Randazzo joins us
56:29
now Great to have you here, Sarah, and this is pretty
56:32
shocking stuff. Talk to us about this wastewater testing
56:34
technique. And how does it work? How common is this?
56:38
In the US, we really started hearing about it most. Since the
56:41
pandemic it was used to detect upticks in COVID. I know if you
56:45
remember seeing, you know, wastewater showing, there could
56:47
be a search here. And so it was used for diseases like that. And
56:51
then now the US is starting to realize, oh, we can do the same
56:53
wastewater technique to look for drug use. And New Mexico was one
56:57
of the first places I've found doing this in public schools.
56:59
And so they literally are testing anything that's flushed
57:02
down the toilet, to be just frank about it. And so it could
57:06
be from students, it could be from adults in the building. But
57:09
over the course of an eight hour period, they take multiple
57:12
measures at each campus and then look for a whole range of drugs
57:15
from it. I
57:16
Adam Curry: have a feeling that we discussed this very thing
57:19
happening.
57:21
John C Dvorak: I think we might have it started with nothing but
57:23
since it started with oh, we're just testing
57:25
Adam Curry: the wastewater to see if you have COVID have now
57:28
the drug tests. And
57:30
John C Dvorak: then eventually it can go house by house.
57:34
Adam Curry: And interestingly, a report just came out in the EU
57:40
and EU report I should say it's a worldwide report about and
57:43
this is also from I believe it's from wastewater testing
57:48
actually. The worst cocaine habits in by country. So who do
57:56
you think is number one the number one country that uses the
57:59
most cocaine? According
58:01
John C Dvorak: to the report? It should be us and I'm
58:03
disappointed if it's not Oh, no, we're
58:05
Adam Curry: no bro. We're number five we're slipping. I've
58:09
John C Dvorak: fallen on everything you
58:10
Adam Curry: will not believe who by a wide margin by 40%. And
58:15
this is the last 12 months amongst people aged 15 to 64.
58:20
John C Dvorak: Give me the top five number
58:22
Adam Curry: I'll give you an OG doing reverse or actually I'll
58:24
give you to do it reverse.
58:27
John C Dvorak: I'll give you the top two account down. Let
58:29
Adam Curry: me give you at number 10 We have coming in
58:33
where they're frog pants friends, number nine, Croatia,
58:39
number eight, Canada sniffing it and snorting it up north and
58:45
then no surprise the drug capital of the of the European
58:49
Union, the Netherlands. And then of course where all our money
58:54
goes for instead of to taxes Ireland and then number one to
59:00
number five the United States followed very closely beaten by
59:05
just a hair a nose hair by Spain. Of now comes the
59:10
interesting top three. Can you give me one of the top three of
59:15
the most cocaine users in the world?
59:19
John C Dvorak: How about Denmark? No,
59:23
Adam Curry: man, Denmark's got the legal stuff. They're on
59:27
SSRIs they don't need coke. Okay,
59:30
John C Dvorak: I'm just gonna. UK UK number
59:34
Adam Curry: two UK number two. Number three is Austria. Number
59:41
one can you guess by a margin of 40% more drug users then the
59:46
United Kingdom water ministry. No one is guessing it in the
59:50
troll room. No one has it. I was blown away. Okay, hit it
59:55
Australia. Wow. A bunch of cool hoped
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't have guessed that either. coked out
1:00:04
Adam Curry: because just kangaroos man wow I 40% margin
1:00:13
the ever since they took away the guns
1:00:17
Unknown: oh man
1:00:18
Adam Curry: well we're screwed alright I just have another two
1:00:20
yeah
1:00:21
John C Dvorak: but I feel good so I have one more sewage source
1:00:26
has died obviously came from that and this one is something I
1:00:30
think we should be aware of was the fake meat story
1:00:34
Adam Curry: okay it just made meat
1:00:36
Unknown: from your number two Japanese scientists have
1:00:38
developed a method to create edible steaks from human feces.
1:00:42
Unbelievable well it's happening meat so UK Aikido a researcher
1:00:46
at the okuyama laboratory collaborated with Tokyo sewage
1:00:50
to address sewage mud excess, they discovered the content in
1:00:53
the mud contains high protein due to bacteria so the team
1:00:57
isolated and combined these proteins with a reaction
1:01:00
enhancer result synthetic state gel to me comprises of 63%
1:01:04
protein 25% carbs 3% lipids and 9% minerals and it's visually
1:01:10
enhanced with food coloring for a red hue and improved flavor
1:01:14
using soy protein.
1:01:19
Adam Curry: Where'd that come from? That's a ground for cake
1:01:21
John C Dvorak: Tiktok Okay,
1:01:24
Adam Curry: all right. Well, there is a lot of talk about
1:01:26
California now approving wastewater recycle. Yes,
1:01:30
John C Dvorak: it's a big story. I've had some clips I don't
1:01:32
think I haven't any today but the they're approving the use of
1:01:37
toilet one waste water another word sewage the liquid in the
1:01:42
sewage to refine it to make drinking water. Yeah, they're
1:01:47
gonna they've started already in some areas whether using it for
1:01:50
for lawns and outdoor use a lawyer you can't really tell me
1:01:54
how you separate the pipes
1:01:56
Adam Curry: as a as a resident of California. What is your
1:01:59
feeling about this development?
1:02:01
John C Dvorak: That drink bottled water?
1:02:03
Adam Curry: I'll bet you do. I was always under the impression
1:02:08
that they were already doing that.
1:02:10
John C Dvorak: That's what I thought too in some areas for
1:02:13
but mostly for agriculture use. I didn't know that they were
1:02:18
going to try to make people drink into your heart up man.
1:02:21
Wait, and I realize reading quite a bit around here. Yeah,
1:02:24
but I'd say this that they want us to drink our own pee and and
1:02:29
basically each. It's like to Hello. Hello, California.
1:02:37
Adam Curry: Uber all us. Uber all
1:02:40
John C Dvorak: Hey, and wait, California goes. Oh, oh, yeah.
1:02:43
The
1:02:43
Adam Curry: way the rest of the country goes. I don't think so.
1:02:46
Yeah. Although on that new civil war movie, it is Texas and
1:02:49
California Joining Forces oddly, which makes no sense. Somehow
1:02:54
somehow that happens. Let's just get the obligatory Orange Man
1:02:59
bad story out of the way. Oh, MSNBC, Lawrence O'Donnell
1:03:04
Unknown: on Christmas Day. A 77 year old criminal defendant
1:03:08
facing racketeering charges.
1:03:12
Adam Curry: That's that's it's gone from, was it the President
1:03:17
with twice impede or twice impeached 90 times a night
1:03:23
indicted, indicted. Now now it's just gone down to this on
1:03:26
Christmas Day. He just by the way,
1:03:29
Unknown: a 77 year old criminal defendant facing racketeering
1:03:32
charges and other felonies in four jurisdictions said that his
1:03:37
prosecutors should rot in hell. And unlike every other criminal
1:03:42
defendant, who has said that he didn't mumble it to himself
1:03:46
bitterly alone in his jail cell.
1:03:49
Adam Curry: This is Lawrence O'Donnell deserves a goat for
1:03:52
this
1:03:52
Unknown: awaiting trial. He didn't say it angrily to a
1:03:55
cellmate. He said it through the reach of social media to the
1:04:00
world and to the world that he said the president of the United
1:04:05
States should rot in hell. The 77 year old criminal defendant
1:04:10
is also the leading Republican candidate for President of the
1:04:12
United States, thanks to the inexplicable political
1:04:16
perversion of most Republican Party voters who have chosen to
1:04:21
support a man who has described himself as being perverse. That
1:04:26
was his word. Donald Trump is now the first former presidents
1:04:31
in history to say that any other American president, including
1:04:36
the slave owners, should rot in hell. There is no evidence doubt
1:04:41
Trump believes that there is a
1:04:43
Adam Curry: hell we did that there is no evidence bit. It's
1:04:46
kind of good he did noting the slave
1:04:48
Unknown: owners should rot in hell. There is no evidence that
1:04:52
Donald Trump believes that there is a hell or that there is a God
1:04:56
He obviously has not lived a single day of his life. Based on
1:05:01
a belief in hell or God, and there is no decision he ever
1:05:05
made in life that can be traced to a belief in hell, or God,
1:05:11
Adam Curry: that is blatantly false.
1:05:14
John C Dvorak: Not only that, but is scandalous. Yes. Why
1:05:16
Adam Curry: it's almost done. But that does
1:05:18
Unknown: not render Donald Trump's condemnation of
1:05:20
President Biden to hell. Harmless, because the only way
1:05:25
Donald Trump's most fervent Christian followers believe Joe
1:05:28
Biden can burn in hell is if he is dead.
1:05:35
John C Dvorak: Wow, that's, I think, consider that a threat.
1:05:38
Yeah, of
1:05:38
Adam Curry: course it is. That's what he's trying to make Trump
1:05:41
into. But he's the one that said it.
1:05:44
John C Dvorak: Well, that from that same operation, let's
1:05:46
listen to the supercut of what people think is going to happen
1:05:49
with Trump second term,
1:05:51
Adam Curry: who on second, here we go, what would a second
1:05:54
Donald Trump term look like?
1:05:56
Unknown: You can't imagine the things that he's going to do.
1:05:59
And you
1:06:00
Adam Curry: know, we played this like three episodes ago. I don't
1:06:03
care. I hate to be a douchebag. But I don't remember
1:06:05
John C Dvorak: the one part in this that if you if that's true,
1:06:08
what would a second Donald Trump term
1:06:10
Unknown: look like? You can't imagine the things that he's
1:06:13
going to do and shoot visitors to the White House. That means
1:06:18
he can shoot the First Lady. We're gonna
1:06:19
see violence the likes of which we didn't even see on January 6,
1:06:24
make it illegal to run against him to throw his opponents in
1:06:26
jail to shut down the media,
1:06:28
you will make himself into the furor using martial law against
1:06:31
the Americans
1:06:32
to create mass internment camps. Throw everyone into Gitmo
1:06:37
assassinate generals
1:06:40
ordering troops to attack American citizens Trump's
1:06:44
very well armed and extremists base will try to kill people
1:06:48
going in is going to basically burn the house down
1:06:50
the absolute destruction of the Justice Department as we know
1:06:54
it.
1:06:54
The vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you
1:06:57
ever get to vote in.
1:07:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't remember anyone saying he's
1:07:02
gonna shoot the First Lady. Yeah,
1:07:04
Adam Curry: yeah, that was that was in the original. It's
1:07:07
alright. Well,
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: yeah, maybe we didn't play it yet. We did
1:07:09
Adam Curry: play it.
1:07:11
John C Dvorak: Okay, if we played it I just for some reason
1:07:13
I can't remember. I can't imagine me not remembering that
1:07:16
he's going to shoot the First Lady. So we have the updates on
1:07:21
Trump here. This is Trump ballot, Smith, et cetera on MTD,
1:07:25
Unknown: Special Counsel Jack Smith is trying to limit
1:07:28
evidence and arguments that Trump can make before the jury.
1:07:31
In his federal trial related to the January 6 related case.
1:07:35
Prosecutors claimed that Trump has tried to spread irrelevant
1:07:38
disinformation and will try to politicize the trial.
1:07:42
Specifically Smith is concerned that Trump will distract the
1:07:45
jury by making claims of political prosecution, such as
1:07:49
raising the question as to whether or not this legal case
1:07:52
against Trump was launched in coordination with the Biden
1:07:55
administration, or the question of whether or not there were
1:07:58
undercover agents present at the Capitol on January 6, or
1:08:02
questions of alleged foreign interference in the 2020
1:08:06
presidential election. All of these topics Jack Smith wants to
1:08:09
be off limits at that trial, which is what he's asking of the
1:08:12
DC judge. Meanwhile, proceedings in this case are currently on
1:08:16
hold because of an appeal over the question of whether or not
1:08:19
presidential immunity applies in this case. Meanwhile, Michigan
1:08:23
Supreme Court today did rule that Trump can stay on the
1:08:26
ballot in that state rejecting an appeal to try to disqualify
1:08:30
him. Michigan's court stated that they would not review the
1:08:34
question as to whether or not Trump should be disqualified
1:08:37
based on accusations that he incited an insurrection. This is
1:08:41
the exact opposite from that Colorado rolling, which will
1:08:44
likely go to the Supreme Court, we can expect to see several
1:08:48
other rulings on this issue coming out over the coming weeks
1:08:51
and months as there are challenges to Trump's candidacy
1:08:55
and several other states. Now
1:08:57
Adam Curry: I'm glad everyone has something to argue about.
1:09:01
John C Dvorak: That's all that's all this is just all publicity
1:09:04
the way I see it. Yeah, of course, Trump Of course it is.
1:09:06
It's just different than the last time only this time it's
1:09:09
like it's it just makes everything look unfair. Part two
1:09:15
of this clip talks about what California is up to. California
1:09:19
Unknown: Governor Gavin Newsom reacted to efforts from a top
1:09:22
state official trying to bar former President Donald Trump
1:09:26
from the state's ballot. This comes after the Colorado Supreme
1:09:29
Court ruled that Trump should be dismissed from the Colorado
1:09:32
ballot for the 2024 election. They say he violated section
1:09:36
three of the US constitutions 14th amendment, a majority of
1:09:40
justices on the state court ruled that he engaged in an
1:09:43
insurrection or rebellion against the United States under
1:09:47
their reading of the provision. The decision has triggered more
1:09:50
efforts across the United States, including in California
1:09:53
to disqualify Trump from appearing on ballots in 2024.
1:09:57
But in a statement issued on December 20 Second, Newsom told
1:10:01
his fellow Democrats that he believes that in California we
1:10:04
defeat candidates at the polls referring to lawsuits against
1:10:07
President Trump and that everything else is a political
1:10:10
distraction. Lieutenant Governor Eleni Cunha. Lacus, who was
1:10:14
running for governor as a Democrat in 2026 sent a letter
1:10:17
to Secretary of State Shirley Weber urging her to find legal
1:10:21
ways to remove Trump's name from the state's ballot. The letter
1:10:24
reads based on the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling, I urge
1:10:28
you to explore every legal option to remove former
1:10:31
President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential
1:10:35
primary ballot. Meanwhile, Senator Dave min also a Democrat
1:10:39
announced that he would introduce a measure to allow
1:10:41
residents of the state to file lawsuits to block candidates who
1:10:45
are deemed ineligible. No,
1:10:47
Adam Curry: man, not the California matters. I mean, we
1:10:51
know what they're gonna vote.
1:10:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the elections are rigged here
1:10:55
anyway, which is the reason I think, because I heard that
1:10:59
Newsom was all in on the idea of knocking them off the ballot
1:11:03
now, all of a sudden, he's not because I think somebody went up
1:11:05
to him and said, Hey, what difference does it make? Right?
1:11:09
Adam Curry: Makes no, and he can play the high ground. But again,
1:11:13
it's like, you know, it's I don't care who's gonna be no
1:11:15
one's gonna come in and save the world. That's that's the that's
1:11:20
the bad part of this. Oh, if Trump gets elected, then we're
1:11:23
all saved. No,
1:11:25
John C Dvorak: definitely not gonna be saved on anything more
1:11:28
40 more years of agony and always like to say, Hey, if you
1:11:32
had let Trump win the second term, he'd be out for good.
1:11:38
Adam Curry: I mean, I'm thinking now, that the the How about this
1:11:43
for our scenario, we want Trump to win because we're the
1:11:48
economy, the financial system is going to blow up eventually. Why
1:11:52
not pull the plug, pull it? Pull it just before Trump is elected?
1:11:56
Let him deal with it. Well,
1:11:58
John C Dvorak: I think that may be exactly what's going on with
1:12:00
the migration crisis.
1:12:02
Adam Curry: Oh, you're so right. That's a good point. Because it
1:12:06
is it is just out of control. And everyone sees it. Everyone.
1:12:12
Yeah. Even
1:12:13
John C Dvorak: the Democrats are
1:12:14
Adam Curry: irked all the Democrats are here I have. This
1:12:17
is a I'm sure you have clips. This is a the the Democrat
1:12:21
mayors of the sanctuary cities had a zoom call. And they all
1:12:26
get that Zoom call. Yeah, they had a zoom call. Everybody got
1:12:28
on the call. And they're all bitching and moaning. We need
1:12:32
Unknown: the federal government to invest. But we also need to
1:12:34
make sure that the governor of Texas, there's no pick this
1:12:38
animosity. On the rest of the country. Mayor
1:12:41
Johnson joined New York Mayor Eric Adams and Denver Mayor Mike
1:12:45
Johnston on a joint call with members of the media this
1:12:48
afternoon. We at
1:12:49
this point now have had more migrant arrivals to our city
1:12:52
than any city in America per capita. And and that is not
1:12:55
because there is a thoughtful or coordinated strategy to entry it
1:12:58
is because we are the first big city north of El Paso and the
1:13:01
cheapest bus ticket in the shortest trip.
1:13:03
The mayor of Denver says the city has received 35,000
1:13:07
migrants since the crisis began in 2022 compared to more than
1:13:11
26,000 in Chicago, and more than 150,000 in New York. Just
1:13:16
a few weeks ago, Governor Abbott promised to send an additional
1:13:20
25,000 migrants to New York City alone.
1:13:25
We learned New York City is adopting a similar ordinance
1:13:28
Chicago passed last month requiring migrant buses give
1:13:31
advance notice before arriving and only do drop offs Monday
1:13:35
through Friday at a designated location in New York limiting
1:13:38
those hours between 8am to noon. Chicago's ordinance extends that
1:13:43
drop off time until 5pm. Buses that don't comply here are cited
1:13:48
and a couple of them have been impounded migrants from Texas
1:13:51
also arriving at Chicago's airports, sending
1:13:55
planes to Chicago or anywhere else that are funded by the
1:14:00
government. This government of Texas, these private planes
1:14:04
without a manifest without knowing who's on the plane
1:14:07
without knowing what's on the plane is not just reckless is
1:14:10
dangerous.
1:14:11
The mayor is all described shelter spaces at capacity and a
1:14:14
strain on city budgets pushing for a list of demands from the
1:14:18
feds including authorized work permits.
1:14:21
It will crush city budgets around the country as we know
1:14:24
we're looking at about $160 million of potential costs going
1:14:28
next year's budget that's almost 10% of our entire city budget
1:14:31
asking for federal financial help and better coordination to
1:14:35
manage the flow of migrants from the southern border.
1:14:38
We have spoken to FEMA and other federal officials who have
1:14:42
expressed concern about the border surge, but not offered
1:14:46
additional help. We need action and we need it now.
1:14:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. We're the baddies Of course were
1:14:53
the bad guys were the bad guys were sitting even though
1:14:57
John C Dvorak: supposedly, you're the bad guys or text is
1:15:00
referring to Yes. It still is only, like 10% of what's
1:15:05
happening in New York, the rest of the US government sending him
1:15:08
up. Yes. Yes. getting blamed for nothing really. But
1:15:12
Adam Curry: people are seeing it there at the airports. They're
1:15:14
seeing the chaperones, that's the I, what the what's the name
1:15:17
of that company? Again, I Edie, they're the they're contracted
1:15:22
to help these people through TSA, they got paperwork,
1:15:25
Everything's all set. It's all good to go. And that is, I mean,
1:15:32
it's crazy. And everyone sees it now and they just let keep
1:15:37
letting it go. They could stop it today. But why don't they I
1:15:42
think this is part of the reason.
1:15:44
Unknown: Two Pizza Hut franchises are laying off more
1:15:46
than 1200 in house delivery drivers in California and they
1:15:50
are actually eliminating the service that we're preparing for
1:15:53
the new law that will raise employee wages to $20 an hour
1:15:57
starting in April. The layoffs will affect hundreds of stores
1:16:00
in orange, Los Angeles, Riverside and San Bernardino,
1:16:03
and Ventura Counties. To get orders customers will need to
1:16:06
use third party delivery apps like DoorDash Uber Eats and
1:16:09
Grubhub
1:16:10
Adam Curry: we need cheap people to deliver our food. We need
1:16:14
cheap people to clean the homes. Toilets, we need slaves. That's
1:16:20
what it is. These people are cynical. Well
1:16:23
John C Dvorak: as they don't know how many cheap people we
1:16:25
need. Let's go to migration report. Well, I got two of them.
1:16:30
Here we go. Let's do the N TD one first. Okay.
1:16:34
Unknown: This is in di D Secretary of State and Tony
1:16:38
Blinken.
1:16:38
Adam Curry: Wow, same cadence. Did you hear that?
1:16:40
John C Dvorak: I love that guy. And
1:16:43
Unknown: this is in the
1:16:45
Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Homeland Security Chief
1:16:49
Alejandro my orcas are in Mexico City on Wednesday. They're
1:16:52
seeking the support of Mexico's president Andres Manuel Lopez
1:16:55
Obrador in tackling the immigration crisis, they too are
1:16:59
expected to bring up a number of requests, including moving
1:17:02
migrants South controlling the railways that are used by
1:17:06
migrants to move north and providing visas and other
1:17:09
incentives for migrants to stay in Mexico. This comes as new
1:17:13
footage this week shows migrants making fires and sleeping
1:17:16
between train cars in Mexico. They often travel on top of the
1:17:20
train to not get caught by Mexican authorities.
1:17:25
Mexican migration authorities get us off the buses if we're
1:17:28
about to reach the border. We're returned to southern Mexico for
1:17:32
no apparent reason. We're always supposed to move forwards I
1:17:35
mean, we have to get on the train.
1:17:38
However, sometimes Mexican authorities don't stop the
1:17:41
migrants an issue the American delegation might address at
1:17:45
Wednesday's meeting. Shortly before the meeting, President
1:17:48
Obrador said the US should be investing in poor people in
1:17:51
Latin America and the Caribbean, instead of putting up barriers,
1:17:55
barbed wire fences in the river or thinking about building
1:17:58
walls. Meanwhile, in the US, the Democratic mayor of Eagle Pass,
1:18:02
Texas says the US should start deporting people, adding that
1:18:06
the problem starts with President Biden and vice
1:18:08
president Kamala Harris not taking a stand on the issue.
1:18:12
It's
1:18:12
very disappointing that they haven't made that message
1:18:15
themselves that you can come into this country illegally. One
1:18:19
and second. Yes, of course, there has to be a consequence to
1:18:23
somebody breaking the law. People know that they're
1:18:26
processing them quick. That's why they keep coming. So until
1:18:30
we start deporting people in large amounts, this will
1:18:34
continue to keep going. He
1:18:36
adds that the influx of immigrants is causing crime in
1:18:39
his city to rise.
1:18:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, can I trust that report? And you can play
1:18:45
the Amy Goodman? Morning.
1:18:48
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN flippin bound. US Secretary of State
1:18:52
Tony Blinken, Homeland Security Chief Mohandro Marcus and White
1:18:56
House Homeland Security Adviser Liz Sherwood Randall are meeting
1:19:00
today with Mexican President on low that's Andres Manuel Lopez
1:19:04
Obrador and Mexico City. Blinken is preparing to discuss what his
1:19:09
office is described as border security challenges and quote,
1:19:12
unprecedented irregular migration in the Western
1:19:15
Hemisphere. Unquote. Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is expected
1:19:20
to call again for the Biden ministration to lift sanctions
1:19:23
against Cuba and Venezuela, which AMLO says has driven an
1:19:27
increase in migration. This comes as a caravan with over
1:19:30
6000 migrants are heading towards the US Mexico border.
1:19:35
Some participants in the caravan are holding banners that read
1:19:38
quote, exodus from poverty, unquote. Other caravan
1:19:43
participants said they're fleeing violence at home. This
1:19:46
is Jose Santos from Honduras. I
1:19:49
came here escaping from the Ms. 13 criminal gangs. I worked as a
1:19:53
security guard. Ms. 13 asked us for money but we didn't have
1:19:57
any. They wanted our ammunition. But as gone As we only received
1:20:01
a limited amount of ammunition, they threatened to kill me. Not
1:20:04
once, but three times. I was scared. So I decided to Mexico,
1:20:08
hoping I'll be allowed to go to the US. In
1:20:12
related news, CNN is reporting more than 11,000 people seeking
1:20:16
refuge in the United States are waiting in shelters and camps on
1:20:20
the Mexican side of the border.
1:20:23
Adam Curry: I had a conversation with Moe about this yesterday,
1:20:25
he had an interesting take on the large amount of what they
1:20:29
call men of military age. Yeah, which, you know, in here in
1:20:35
Texas, the meme is gonna be gonna kill us from inside they
1:20:40
got they're gonna have an old army here, and they're gonna
1:20:42
kill us here. A mosaic was interesting. He said, No, no,
1:20:46
no. He said, We want these men because that will be your path
1:20:49
to citizenship. We can't get anyone to find you
1:20:52
John C Dvorak: to put them in. We can't get people in our own
1:20:54
army will join. Exactly bring him in. You get citizenship.
1:20:58
This is a deal that was started some time back.
1:21:02
Adam Curry: I think wasn't it?
1:21:03
John C Dvorak: I think even maybe before that there was a
1:21:06
lot of these guys as you I think during the Iraq war, this may go
1:21:09
back further. And I think it was like you come over here. You're
1:21:13
here. You you're going to the army for two years and fight in
1:21:18
Iraq. Yeah. And you'll get a citizenship and there's a bunch
1:21:21
of people that did that. Oh, yeah.
1:21:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, this and
1:21:26
John C Dvorak: it's possible that we're loading up because
1:21:28
bring him in and then sue them up and send them off. This is
1:21:31
what Russia does. If you note the Ukraine they were always
1:21:35
talking about how they were bringing all these guys in from
1:21:37
all over the place to put on a Russian uniform and go into
1:21:41
Ukraine.
1:21:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the same same for Ukraine. Ukraine bottle
1:21:44
up there's a lot of American mercenaries getting killed over
1:21:47
there. That
1:21:49
John C Dvorak: fighting Fight, fight Smash.
1:21:52
Adam Curry: I have a couple of clips here. This is ABC.
1:21:56
Unknown: Tonight, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken arriving
1:21:59
in Mexico City pressing Mexico's president for help with the
1:22:03
migrant surge at the border joined by DHS Secretary
1:22:07
Alejandro Mayorkas, sources telling ABC News that the Biden
1:22:12
ministration plan to push Mexico to step up immigration
1:22:15
enforcement within their country help reopen key ports of entry
1:22:20
and encourage migrants to stay in Mexico. The urgent meeting
1:22:25
coming as border officials brace for this caravan of migrants an
1:22:29
estimated 6000 people pushing through southern Mexico towards
1:22:34
an overwhelmed us border December now on track to have
1:22:39
the highest number of border patrol apprehensions ever.
1:22:42
According to CBP data. Several days this month seen more than
1:22:46
10,000 apprehensions overnight, a plane carrying over 180
1:22:53
migrants from Texas diverted to Philadelphia due to weather
1:22:57
issues. The group later packed on buses and transported to New
1:23:02
York City tonight, Mayor Eric Adams now requiring those buses
1:23:07
to provide 32 hour notice before arriving in the city and urging
1:23:12
the federal government to step up.
1:23:14
This is a national problem. This has only been exacerbated by
1:23:18
Governor app is cruel, inhumane cruel politics, federal
1:23:22
government responsibility.
1:23:25
I think I think Biden
1:23:27
John C Dvorak: can do it. It's not cruel, like put people on
1:23:29
planes and ship wherever he wants. But if Abbott does, it is
1:23:32
cruel.
1:23:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's cruel because you know, we're red
1:23:34
state. We're horrible people. I think TRT had a good report.
1:23:38
Unknown: I think this is the one I mean, the latest surge of
1:23:41
1000s of Central and South American migrants is on the move
1:23:44
now heading toward the US border. They don't care about
1:23:48
the enormous humanitarian, political and logistical
1:23:52
nightmare they've touched off. They just want to get in
1:23:55
America's top diplomat Secretary of State Antony Blinken was
1:23:59
among US officials who met with Mexican President Andres Obrador
1:24:03
on Wednesday, there are some ideas the US is pressing Mexico
1:24:07
on keeping or moving migrants farther south in Mexico away
1:24:12
from the US border, providing migrants with visas to give them
1:24:16
an incentive to stay in Mexico. But Mexico doesn't have the
1:24:20
resources or the infrastructure that the US has to handle the
1:24:24
influx. This month alone, the number of migrants crossing the
1:24:28
border has sometimes exceeded 10,000 in one day. The US is
1:24:33
occasionally closing international bridges between
1:24:36
the two nations as a way to pressure Mexico to do more. But
1:24:40
both nations get hurt economically. When those bridges
1:24:43
close New York City where 1000s of migrants arrive each week is
1:24:48
so overwhelmed. The mayor is now putting limits on how long
1:24:51
migrants can stay in shelters, creating panic.
1:24:55
They told me that this country was different but no. I told my
1:24:59
son Enjoy the hotel. We have a roof right now. This is going to
1:25:04
send us away and we're going to be sleeping in the train on the
1:25:07
streets. And my son started to cry back and I said, Let's have
1:25:11
faith.
1:25:12
Mexican president Obrador says he wants to help. But he also
1:25:16
wants to see the US make diplomatic progress with Cuba
1:25:19
and Venezuela, where most migrants are now coming from,
1:25:22
along with more development aid for the region. proof that this
1:25:26
is no longer a border crisis, but a hemisphere one
1:25:31
Adam Curry: hemisphere crisis. Well, I don't know but all I see
1:25:35
is you got a problem with a war the America will pay for it be
1:25:40
an Israel lab will pay for Europe, Ukraine will pay for it.
1:25:44
You got you got crap going on your economy. Come on over here.
1:25:47
We'll take care of it. How did that happen? How did how did we?
1:25:50
And it's not just from South American countries. No, no,
1:25:55
there's entire we talked about this. There's tour. Travel
1:26:00
Agencies popping up online and foreseeing Africa for Somalians,
1:26:04
hey, we'll get you to the American we'll get you to the
1:26:06
border, no worries. And this was a perfect, perfect example of
1:26:09
it.
1:26:10
Unknown: Granted at the vettery Airport tarmac for 24 hours, an
1:26:14
Airbus A 340 was transporting over 300 Indian passengers. All
1:26:19
of them held in the airport suspected to be part of a human
1:26:22
trafficking network with investigations ongoing. Two men
1:26:27
possessing cash and several passports are currently in
1:26:30
custody. The plane left the UAE yesterday for technical stuff in
1:26:34
France. It was supposed to take off to the capital of Nicaragua.
1:26:38
So the
1:26:39
Adam Curry: goal in Nicaragua and then put bus get on the bus
1:26:42
go up to the up to the border, come on in. Everybody gets paid.
1:26:46
Everybody's great. And and it's the United Nations Office of
1:26:51
immigration of immigration. Was it International Office of
1:26:55
migration? Who are ours are just supporting this?
1:27:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with our money. Yes. This gives our money
1:27:04
to the UN to make these things happen. If we need some
1:27:08
auditing, we're getting ripped off.
1:27:10
Adam Curry: Yes. But this is this is coming to a head. I
1:27:14
mean, this just has to end this is people are not going to take
1:27:17
it anymore. Particularly New Yorkers are getting fed up.
1:27:20
Chicagoans are getting fed up. You can only say good Texas no
1:27:27
good for so long. With Lexus's fault, that's all the that's all
1:27:32
the mayor says, oh, it's Texas is inhumane, horrible, Greg
1:27:36
Abbott, who wasn't in a wheelchair to kick his ass. It's
1:27:40
just it's a meme. And so you think that this is part of the
1:27:44
let's do this and leave it all to Trump
1:27:47
John C Dvorak: along with the beginning to think so. Because
1:27:51
the Democrats seem to sense that there, they can't get Biden off
1:27:55
the ticket. Because he's just not going to go off the ticket.
1:27:59
And he has to, you know, they can have to defer, so they're
1:28:01
gonna have to leave on the ticket. So he's going to be on
1:28:03
there with Camela. And that means he's going to die in
1:28:06
office probably in two or three years, and then she's going to
1:28:09
be present is a nightmare. So they don't want that they're not
1:28:12
nuts. And so they're going to let Trump and the Republicans
1:28:16
kind of when they're probably take, keep the house. I don't
1:28:19
know how the Senate is gonna go. But whatever the case is, Trump
1:28:22
had the house and senate last time it didn't do him any good.
1:28:25
And because he's a bonehead. He's not a good president in
1:28:28
terms of his ability to run things. He hires the wrong
1:28:32
people that come to the Council on Foreign Relations folk are
1:28:36
running the place anyway. The media is all over him. He can't
1:28:41
do anything he's in. He's no good. Yeah. But they're gonna
1:28:46
but at least it'll put the Republicans in and they can take
1:28:48
take it up up the shorts for all now they got to deal with this.
1:28:52
And they got to deal with that. And they got to deal with like
1:28:54
you said that there will be an economic downturn.
1:28:57
Adam Curry: You call this a financial event is what I'm
1:29:00
calling it.
1:29:01
John C Dvorak: Well, you can call it whatever you want. But
1:29:03
that should take place in 2025. Not next year, but the year
1:29:06
after, there you go, according to the cycles.
1:29:10
Adam Curry: It could be triggered a little earlier, that
1:29:12
would be fun. Well,
1:29:13
John C Dvorak: whatever. Well for the show, maybe, as I said
1:29:16
for the donation segment. The whole thing is leading to let
1:29:21
them let the Republicans take it in the shorts for all this that
1:29:25
we're doing and let's just pour in more migrants don't do
1:29:28
anything about it. And you know, see what happens.
1:29:33
Adam Curry: Yeah, meanwhile, there's an entire generation of
1:29:40
young people certainly in the United States who are being
1:29:44
taught to hate America yeah hated for being colonialist.
1:29:49
can't know lonely elicit
1:29:51
John C Dvorak: no good one. No
1:29:52
Adam Curry: good. This is have you ever heard of Turtle Island?
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: For summer And I have I can't tell you what I
1:30:01
what I've heard but I have heard of Turtle Island Turtle Island.
1:30:05
Adam Curry: Let me see I have it here. Turtle Island is about
1:30:10
read it from the Wikipedia of Turtle Island is the name for
1:30:13
earth or North America used by some indigenous peoples? As well
1:30:18
as by Yes, indigenous right.
1:30:20
John C Dvorak: You're right. I had it. I have heard it, but
1:30:22
I've only heard it recently like in the last couple of weeks.
1:30:25
Adam Curry: Right. So I only heard it today. And I heard this
1:30:28
University of Minnesota professor. Right, the one that
1:30:31
went off the rails. Yeah, yes, exactly. So if there's
1:30:35
indigenous peoples on the stage, they're talking about Israel.
1:30:39
And of course, how horrible America is for funding them. And
1:30:42
genocide ng the, the Palestinians. And so we get a
1:30:48
couple of terms here. One is the Turtle Island. And the other one
1:30:52
is, I think an interesting land back lands back,
1:30:56
Unknown: but land back is going to happen. That's going to
1:31:00
happen the indigenous perspective and Turtle Island,
1:31:02
and how we understand what is also happening in Palestine. And
1:31:06
what we really want you to take away tonight is, as Anthony
1:31:10
said, we're in the belly of the beast, right? We're all
1:31:12
indigenous people who come from nations that are under
1:31:14
occupation by the United States government. And of course, the
1:31:17
US Bank rules on the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.
1:31:21
They're one in the same, really. And so it's our responsibility
1:31:25
as people who are within the United States to go as hard as
1:31:28
possible to decolonize this place, because that will
1:31:31
reverberate all across the world, because the US is the
1:31:34
greatest predator empire that has ever existed. Right? And so
1:31:39
they want us everywhere. We want us out of Palestine, they want
1:31:42
us out of Turtle Island. Right. And that the goal is to hold the
1:31:47
settler project that is the United States. Yeah.
1:31:50
Adam Curry: So just dismantle, dismantle the United States,
1:31:53
because that'll work out great.
1:31:56
John C Dvorak: that'll improve things. So that now this woman
1:31:59
is at the University of Minnesota, I believe. Yes,
1:32:02
correct, professor, and we'll see how long she lasts.
1:32:07
Adam Curry: Have a couple other of these? Well, there's actually
1:32:10
there's a new chant, which I wanted to share with the group.
1:32:14
John C Dvorak: As I've heard a couple of new chants, I
1:32:16
Adam Curry: have a new one. The new chant is for the Houthis.
1:32:19
Although in this case, it's for Yemen because they're doing a
1:32:22
great job of blocking the shipping through the Red Sea.
1:32:39
Couldn't hear it? Yemen, Yemen, make us proud. Turn another ship
1:32:42
around. Yes, it is, I think. See, I have, of course we have
1:32:50
protesters in Los Angeles at the airport.
1:32:53
Unknown: About 35 people were arrested for rioting amid a pro
1:32:57
Palestinian protest in Los Angeles. They blocked a street
1:33:00
leading into LA international airport this morning. Several
1:33:03
were seen scaling walls and running into neighborhoods
1:33:06
before being taken down by officers in riot gear. One
1:33:10
person was arrested for battery on a police officer. Traffic
1:33:13
slowed, but police said no flights were impacted. And
1:33:17
Adam Curry: here's what's crazy. This anti Israel, anti Zionist,
1:33:22
anti Jew hate really started over a year ago with Kanye he
1:33:32
was the first to say oh no, they're, they're debunking me.
1:33:36
They're taking my business away. I'm no longer rich. They took my
1:33:40
money away. You remember that? Oh, yeah, of course. Well, he
1:33:43
spun on a dime Kanye
1:33:45
Unknown: West is apologizing to the Jewish community posting a
1:33:48
statement on Instagram and Hebrew after a series of anti
1:33:51
semitic remarks. The rapper who calls himself yay is asking for
1:33:55
forgiveness. his apology comes just before the release of his
1:33:58
new album.
1:34:01
John C Dvorak: Timing I love
1:34:04
Adam Curry: I don't know exactly what yeah is trying to do. But
1:34:07
it is time to break out new flags. I think we can expect
1:34:10
this I'm just going to put it in the Red Book yellow flags are on
1:34:13
deck yellow flags are on
1:34:15
Unknown: deck. Hundreds of Hezbollah supporters turned out
1:34:17
Wednesday for the funeral of a fighter killed in an Israeli
1:34:20
airstrike. Since the outbreak of the Israel Hamas war on October
1:34:25
Hezbollah and Israeli forces have engaged in near daily
1:34:28
clashes. Israel bombarded southern Lebanon to force
1:34:32
Hezbollah to evacuate 30 kilometers north and create a
1:34:35
buffer zone. Instead, Bala fired about 30 rockets into northern
1:34:40
Israel. Israel warned that the situation in the region may
1:34:44
escalate further. I must
1:34:46
be good as a former situation on Israel's northern border demands
1:34:49
change. The timer for a diplomatic solution is running
1:34:53
out if the world and the Lebanese Government will not
1:34:56
stop the firing on Northern settlements and move Hezbollah
1:34:59
away from the Border Israeli army will.
1:35:03
Israel faces tensions with more than just Hezbollah and its
1:35:06
north, especially after the death of a high ranking Iranian
1:35:10
officer near Damascus on Monday. His funeral was attended by
1:35:14
1000s in Tehran Thursday, Iran accused Israel of being
1:35:18
responsible for the attack in Syria and promised prevent
1:35:23
certain that this acts of retaliation will continue at
1:35:27
different times and in different places. designed this too will
1:35:31
never be safe from vengeance on knock
1:35:33
on the door. Iran said these actions will be carried out by
1:35:37
the Axis of Resistance, a term for Iran allied groups in the
1:35:41
region. These include the Syrian Government, Bala and Lebanon,
1:35:46
Iraqi militant groups and Yemeni rebels.
1:35:50
Adam Curry: So Israel now basically claims they have I
1:35:53
think seven different people or countries attacking them
1:35:57
including Syria, Damascus, I mean, Syria, Lebanon might be in
1:36:04
this clip. Yeah, but our
1:36:05
Unknown: journey into Gaza at eras crossing. The border
1:36:08
checkpoint ransacked by Hamas on October 7, now in shambles,
1:36:13
entering northern Gaza on foot, the sounds of gunfire ricochet
1:36:16
across the desert as we pass the vast wasteland of mangled steel
1:36:21
and concrete blocks, tanks rolling by and the hum of
1:36:24
Israeli drones overhead.
1:36:26
Adam Curry: I don't think that's the one hold on a second what
1:36:28
was oh, this is it. This is the I think this is the clip here we
1:36:32
go. So
1:36:32
Unknown: task one Iranian state television this footage purports
1:36:36
to show the strike that killed sired Rozay Mousavi, the
1:36:39
esteemed senior adviser in Iran's Revolutionary Guard who
1:36:43
died on the outskirts of the Syrian Capitol on Monday, Tehran
1:36:47
has blamed an Israeli airstrikes. Our
1:36:49
reaction to the assassination will be smart, strong and with
1:36:53
the necessary effectiveness.
1:36:55
On Tuesday, the Israeli Defense Minister hinted the country had
1:36:58
retaliated in Syria, but stopped short of confirming the strike.
1:37:03
On the
1:37:03
normal GFI. We are having a multi front war. We are under
1:37:06
attack from seven different fronts, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria,
1:37:10
Judea and Samaria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran. We have already
1:37:15
responded on six of these fronts.
1:37:19
Adam Curry: So there you have it, seven, seven, and who's
1:37:22
paying for all this and it's not going to stop this is gonna go
1:37:25
on forever. This it's beautiful. The Military Industrial Complex
1:37:30
loves it. loves it, we'll figure something out with the border.
1:37:35
We'll do some some little bullcrap thing and then we'll
1:37:39
get money for more money for Ukraine. And more money for
1:37:43
Israel. They love this stuff. Yeah,
1:37:48
John C Dvorak: because it's soaking the American public. And
1:37:51
Adam Curry: you know, and and we're at peak now. It finally I
1:37:54
was waiting for the report. It came from PBS thank God
1:37:58
Unknown: UN's nuclear watchdog reports that Iran has increased
1:38:02
its production of near weapons grade ways. The International
1:38:05
Atomic Energy Agency said Tehran has been producing more highly
1:38:09
enriched uranium since late November, reversing a month long
1:38:13
slowdown. UN inspectors observed the increase at facilities in
1:38:17
Natanz and for though
1:38:19
Adam Curry: they're just weeks away from the bomb just weeks
1:38:24
it's coming it's
1:38:25
John C Dvorak: always been weeks just waiting forever be weeks
1:38:27
away. Why I have some guys are reporting let's go with Gaza
1:38:33
update.
1:38:35
Unknown: Update guys has health ministry says at least 241
1:38:39
Palestinians have been killed over the past 24 hours that's 10
1:38:43
an hour as Israel intensifies its assault on Gaza, where the
1:38:46
overall death toll has topped 21,000 including 8000 children.
1:38:51
Meanwhile, in the occupied West Bank and Israeli drone strike
1:38:54
has killed six Palestinians in the near shrimps refugee camp
1:38:57
near Tulkarm. During an Israeli raid. Al Jazeera reports Israeli
1:39:01
forces blocked ambulances from reaching the victims of the
1:39:03
strike. The youngest victim was 16 years old Israeli forces and
1:39:08
settlers have killed at least 300 Palestinians in the occupied
1:39:11
West Bank since Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.
1:39:16
John C Dvorak: Oh, she of course is supported in almost secretly
1:39:20
by Qatar. So in the reports you're going to go Why do you
1:39:25
say that? Because we discussed this some time ago. This show is
1:39:30
supported by Qatar
1:39:32
Adam Curry: it is yeah, Democracy Now. Yeah. They give
1:39:36
grants to Democracy Now.
1:39:38
John C Dvorak: I I forget this is so long ago when we first
1:39:41
unveiled our kind of released this information Yeah, they're
1:39:46
getting dare if you can tell by your by their reporting that
1:39:51
they're very pro Palestinian, anti Israel but it gets
1:39:55
ridiculous I got these is a democracy now. Ridiculous. It's
1:40:00
just the way it's done here. Listen to this. Egypt's
1:40:04
Unknown: proposed a plan for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. But
1:40:06
on Tuesday, Israel's army chief said Israel's military operation
1:40:11
in Gaza will continue for quote many more months. Hamas has also
1:40:16
rejected elements of the Egyptian proposal. On Tuesday,
1:40:20
the bodies of about 80 Unidentified Palestinians were
1:40:24
buried in a mass grave in Rafah in southern Gaza. Israel had
1:40:28
seized the bodies in northern Gaza in order to determine if
1:40:31
any of them were dead Israeli hostages Israel then return the
1:40:36
bodies to Gaza through the Kadam Shalom crossing. Meanwhile,
1:40:39
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reportedly
1:40:42
endorsed expelling all Palestinians from Gaza. Israeli
1:40:47
news outlets report, Netanyahu told a group of Israeli
1:40:49
lawmakers Monday quote regarding voluntary immigration. This is
1:40:55
the direction we're going in. He said Palestinian leaders
1:40:58
denounced Netanyahu for embracing what they described as
1:41:01
ethnic cleansing. The 11 week Israeli assault has already
1:41:05
forced more than 85% of Palestinians in Gaza to leave
1:41:08
their homes and many have no homes to return to displace
1:41:12
Palestinians say there are no safe places remaining in Gaza.
1:41:20
were displaced. We were bombed by aircraft. The school was not
1:41:24
safe. So we went out. And while we were leaving, we're snipers
1:41:28
and people were martyred. We have been out for two days and
1:41:31
the situation has not improved. The plane is bombing from above
1:41:35
has nothing to snipers as well.
1:41:39
John C Dvorak: So this is like a pennant or you can call it
1:41:42
slanted or whatever. But the way she emphasizes that the Israelis
1:41:47
refused the Egyptian idea. And then of course the Palestinians
1:41:52
did too. But there's no say that. No, and then there's the
1:41:57
story about the 80 corpses that were shipped to Israel
1:42:01
Adam Curry: and shown in a rave or something
1:42:03
John C Dvorak: and then they shipped them back I mean this
1:42:07
very strange Well,
1:42:08
Adam Curry: that's isn't that just all propaganda. I mean,
1:42:10
we've run out of babies and incubators, so we need to do
1:42:13
some
1:42:15
John C Dvorak: good. Let's go into
1:42:16
Adam Curry: shipping corpses around and mass graves always a
1:42:19
winner at the news desk.
1:42:21
John C Dvorak: Here's a part two of this report.
1:42:24
Unknown: Israel's bombardment of Gaza has also led to a growing
1:42:28
public health catastrophe as disease spreads due to
1:42:30
contaminated water supplies the buildup of untreated sewage and
1:42:33
the lack of medical care. Some Israeli officials have openly
1:42:37
praised the spread of diseases in Gaza. In November retired
1:42:41
Major General Shuara Island, who still advises Israel's defense
1:42:45
minister wrote, quote, severe epidemics in the south of the
1:42:48
Gaza Strip will bring victory closer, unquote. The public
1:42:52
health crisis in Gaza is also impacting Israeli soldiers. The
1:42:56
Times of Israel reports one soldier died after being
1:43:00
infected by a harmful fungus in Gaza. At least 10 other Israeli
1:43:04
troops are infected after being exposed to soil contaminated
1:43:08
with sewage waste. Meanwhile, three more Israeli soldiers have
1:43:12
died in Gaza. 154 Israeli soldiers have been killed in
1:43:16
Gaza since Israel launched its ground invasion.
1:43:18
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is a part of another meme about the
1:43:21
ill disease in Gaza. This is from NPR
1:43:24
Unknown: fighting continues in Gaza between the Israeli
1:43:26
military and Hamas militants. Israel is still bombing the
1:43:30
Enclave relief group saying there's no mercy for Palestinian
1:43:33
civilians to go. The World Health Organization says the
1:43:36
death toll is going to climb because of disease and bears
1:43:40
already Daniel says the who has assessed infectious disease
1:43:43
conditions in Gaza.
1:43:45
It's bad and it may well get worse. Okay, who says rates are
1:43:50
quote soaring? Here's one example a more than 100,000
1:43:54
cases of diarrhea with rates among children that are 25 times
1:43:59
higher than before the war, the WHO says There are also numerous
1:44:02
cases of meningitis, rashes, scabies, lice and chickenpox.
1:44:10
John C Dvorak: Well, cholera is next.
1:44:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. We haven't had that one yet. It's
1:44:16
kind of it's kind of depressing. I mean, nothing's going
1:44:19
nothing's going to change. Israel is not going to stop. I
1:44:22
mean, it Lebanon is next. That's why we're gonna have yellow
1:44:25
flags for Lebanon. Well, I have to change our profiles again.
1:44:30
They are not going to stop. I mean, people think that they're
1:44:33
this you know, standing in front of in front of lax is going to
1:44:36
stop this is not going to stop. The only is going to stop is if
1:44:39
we I guess stop funding it.
1:44:42
John C Dvorak: That's not going to happen.
1:44:44
Unknown: Today, the White House announced plans to provide up to
1:44:46
$250 million in additional military aid to Ukraine. It
1:44:51
includes air defense munitions and artillery and what will be
1:44:54
the last aid package unless of course, Congress approves
1:44:58
additional funding houseware Republicans have insisted a
1:45:01
compromise on immigration along with us security border. Border
1:45:06
Security rather is crucial to negotiate any foreign aid
1:45:09
package. Right.
1:45:13
John C Dvorak: Well, I have my Ukraine clip, which is a little
1:45:15
different is the short Ukraine short report. Ukrainian
1:45:19
Unknown: forces struck a large Russian warship and important
1:45:22
occupied Crimea on Tuesday, in what's been described as one of
1:45:26
the most significant attacks against Moscow's Black Sea Fleet
1:45:29
and months, but the attack commences Ukrainian officials
1:45:32
have acknowledged Russia has seized the frontline town of
1:45:34
Mary Inca in eastern Ukraine after a month long battle and
1:45:38
the latest setback to Ukraine's failed counter offensive. I'm
1:45:42
Adam Curry: reading here that was this UK papers Zelinsky
1:45:47
knows too much and will be killed off by his own men.
1:45:53
John C Dvorak: We've been hearing that for like a year
1:45:55
Adam Curry: I know a Poroshenko is supposedly in the wings
1:45:58
still, we know the portion and he's a military industrial
1:46:02
complex guy. So that would be going
1:46:05
John C Dvorak: back to Israel. I do want to play this contrasting
1:46:09
clip which shows the Democracy Now he's got kind of one you
1:46:13
know they're very, they've taken aside is you in bumped di N.
1:46:19
Israel's
1:46:20
Unknown: announced it will stop automatically granting visas to
1:46:24
employees of the United Nations after it accused the UN of being
1:46:27
quote complicit partners with Hamas. Top United Nations
1:46:31
officials have repeatedly called for a ceasefire in Gaza while
1:46:34
demanding more humanitarian aid into the Besiege territory.
1:46:38
John C Dvorak: That's the extent of her report on this which is
1:46:42
very lopsided because I want to play NTDs version. And this is
1:46:47
the AIDS aid un scandal in depth in TD
1:46:51
Unknown: really forces released a record a phone call that
1:46:54
alleges a Hamas controls United Nations relief efforts in Gaza.
1:46:59
Meanwhile, Hamas released a video that secretly recorded
1:47:02
Israeli troops before an unexpected turn of events and
1:47:06
disease. Jason Perry has the latest on Israel Hamas war
1:47:09
on Wednesday, Hamas terrorists released a video of what appears
1:47:13
to be Israeli troops recovering the body of a deceased soldier
1:47:17
while other troops were standing guard. A terrorist inside a
1:47:21
residence then throws a grenade at them and opens fire. Hamas
1:47:26
also released footage of another terrorist inside a residence
1:47:29
firing an explosive at an apparent Israeli tank. Hamas
1:47:33
terrorists not only control the Gaza Strip, but according to a
1:47:37
recorded phone call released by the IDF on Wednesday. Hamas also
1:47:41
controls the United Nations Relief and Works Agency or
1:47:45
UNWRA. In the phone call a Gazan resident explains that from the
1:47:49
day, Hamas rose to power they took control of everything.
1:47:57
And that's how I was looking at that we look at after
1:48:03
such a significant statement, the IDF officer asked him to
1:48:07
clarify what he meant
1:48:10
by Hamas, all he did was a female.
1:48:15
And when it comes to humanitarian aid, he said Hamas
1:48:19
provides it to their own people first. We reached out to own
1:48:23
room for comment, but we didn't get a response before airtime.
1:48:26
Meanwhile, Hamas security escorted this convoy of trucks
1:48:30
carrying humanitarian aid including fuel as it made its
1:48:34
entry into the Gaza strip from Egypt on Wednesday. Israel's
1:48:38
government spokesperson a lon Levy said this on Wednesday,
1:48:42
UN agencies are currently struggling to distribute aid at
1:48:46
the pace that Israel is inspecting it. Unfortunately, to
1:48:49
date, the UN aid mechanism in Gaza has been woefully
1:48:52
unsuccessful, because it goes through Onra aid simply isn't
1:48:55
reaching the people who need it, because Hamas hijacks it, and
1:48:59
Onra covers up for it.
1:49:00
Adam Curry: I just love this whole system. So we pay we
1:49:04
American taxpayers and we're taxed by inflation by money
1:49:09
printing so we pay for the bombs that create the mess. I'm not
1:49:15
saying that forget who side doesn't matter. But then we also
1:49:19
pay the United Nations for him to go in and give them aid. Why
1:49:25
are we so crazy? Why are we so crazy, bro? Why? We're paying
1:49:29
for everything you're paying for all of it, break it, verbalize
1:49:33
it, build it back up, verbalize it, take away the food and give
1:49:36
him some food. This is what we need to see. This is what we
1:49:40
need to understand back
1:49:41
John C Dvorak: to the UN scandal part two.
1:49:43
Unknown: He also gave this warning about Hezbollah's
1:49:46
continued attacks across Israel's northern border.
1:49:49
We are now at a fork in the road. Either Hezbollah backs off
1:49:53
from the Israeli border in line with UN resolution 1701 from
1:49:57
2006 or we will push it away now. ourselves,
1:50:00
Levy's comments come just a day after Hezbollah terrorist in
1:50:04
Lebanon fired an anti tank missile at a church in northern
1:50:08
Israel. The attack injured two Israeli Christians according to
1:50:12
the IDF. Then when Israeli troops responded to the injured
1:50:17
Hezbollah fired another missile at the church, injuring nine
1:50:21
Israeli soldiers. Just after the attack on Tuesday, the IDF
1:50:25
spokesperson accused Hezbollah of trying to drag Lebanon and
1:50:29
took the war Hamas had started. He said that if the attacks
1:50:33
continue, Hezbollah will bear the consequences and
1:50:36
responsibility of an unnecessary war. And it could bring unwanted
1:50:41
destruction to the people of Lebanon. Yeah,
1:50:44
Adam Curry: yeah, well, Lebanon doesn't need much more
1:50:47
verbalizing
1:50:50
John C Dvorak: Malaria is a mess and and
1:50:51
Adam Curry: of course now we have to always put it out there.
1:50:55
Fears of a widening war. In a
1:50:57
Unknown: video released by Israel's Air Force, a fighter
1:51:00
jet shoots down what Israeli officials say was a drone fired
1:51:04
from Yemen, your territory over the Red Sea, a sign of continued
1:51:09
escalation with Iranian backed Houthi rebels. It comes a day
1:51:13
after side Rosie Mousavi one of Europe's top advisors to its
1:51:17
Revolutionary Guard in Syria was reportedly killed and an Israeli
1:51:21
airstrike in the Syrian capital Damascus on Monday, killing tech
1:51:26
Ron vowed to avenge further and flaming fears that the Israel
1:51:31
Hamas war could engulf the region. But over the past 24
1:51:35
hours in Gaza, six Israeli soldiers have been pronounced
1:51:38
dead by the military. And over 240 Palestinians were killed and
1:51:43
multiple Israeli airstrikes. According to the Hamas run
1:51:46
Ministry of Health. Some victims so little, and so stop. They
1:51:53
don't cry out in pain. Sean Casey speaks for the World
1:51:57
Health Organization. We're seeing almost only trauma cases
1:52:01
come through the door and
1:52:03
it's quite difficult to believe it's it's a bloodbath as we as
1:52:10
we said before, it's carnage.
1:52:12
Across Gaza, there's no shortage of pain, as this little boy
1:52:16
cries out. Goodbye. In the southern city of Rafa tonight,
1:52:25
Palestinian medical workers buried roughly 80 bodies
1:52:28
released by Israel in a mass grave. The smell of decomposing
1:52:32
remains was so strong, they said they couldn't accurately count
1:52:36
how many
1:52:38
Adam Curry: good jobs CBS.
1:52:40
John C Dvorak: And by the way, that's that report and another
1:52:42
one where they had the guy saying it was a blood bath.
1:52:45
Yeah, he's standing in a fairly empty hall. In a hospital.
1:52:50
There's no blood anywhere. There are people going in and out, no
1:52:54
blood to be seen anywhere, including on him. And it looked
1:52:59
pretty calm to me. It reminded me of some of the early COVID
1:53:02
vids now that we saw where there was nothing going on. We're
1:53:07
getting bad information generally.
1:53:10
Adam Curry: Well remember what General Smedley Butler said, war
1:53:14
is a riser racket and it's that's what it is just war is
1:53:17
war is a racket, just making money. People be down why can't
1:53:22
we why can't we do get into the war business and Congo? There's
1:53:26
some good stuff. I mean, is there no money for these guys
1:53:29
Unknown: protests erupted in Congo today demanding a redo of
1:53:33
last week's presidential election. demonstrators took to
1:53:36
the streets of Kinshasa denouncing what they say was a
1:53:39
flawed vote. Police fire tear gas and threw rocks to break up
1:53:43
the crowds. One of the main opposition candidates also
1:53:46
accused police of firing live bullets. Protesters refuse to
1:53:50
give up.
1:53:53
That people are resisting marching is our constitutional
1:53:56
right. And it is not over because they need to take
1:53:59
responsibility for this chaotic elections. We won't back down
1:54:03
international
1:54:04
observers and rights groups have also questioned the elections
1:54:07
integrity. They cited polls that never opened or opened late and
1:54:11
many illegible voter cards. Final election results are
1:54:14
expected in the coming days.
1:54:16
Adam Curry: Oh, just wait for Congolese coming. We'll have
1:54:19
people from the Congo coming now.
1:54:22
John C Dvorak: Bring them in. Well, that could be that could
1:54:24
be Yeah. From the southern border. But why don't we? I
1:54:28
don't know that. It's like we don't want to get involved with
1:54:32
black African.
1:54:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, why not? Are they not human?
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: We just don't want to get involved. We got
1:54:40
involved with enough stuff
1:54:41
Adam Curry: now but you can never have too much stuff going
1:54:44
on. Now.
1:54:45
John C Dvorak: We can only do so much.
1:54:48
Adam Curry: Okay. But I think they could add a third war. I
1:54:52
think Janet Yellen would say we can easily have a third war we
1:54:56
can pay for that. No, and that's not a problem.
1:55:00
John C Dvorak: Is that your Yellin
1:55:02
Adam Curry: is pretty bad? It's not bad at all. So we do a three
1:55:06
by three
1:55:07
John C Dvorak: yes I do have a three by three that is about
1:55:12
let's start with ABC
1:55:13
Adam Curry: no b can't start at all until we roll out there now
1:55:16
it's time barred. Experiment by Jessie
1:55:21
Unknown: comparing ABC, CBS
1:55:24
and NBC
1:55:27
Adam Curry: you cannot kick off a three by
1:55:29
John C Dvorak: three without the D gore. Yes before we play the
1:55:31
first one I want to mention now it looks like when the show the
1:55:35
map of all the crap going on out there. We have five five bases
1:55:40
in Syria. Bases actual business. Let's take a look at this. ask
1:55:46
ourselves what? Right and I'm pro American. But what right do
1:55:51
we have to violate a sovereign state and just set up shop? Well
1:55:57
all over the place, because
1:56:01
Adam Curry: we're from Turtle Island back off.
1:56:03
John C Dvorak: Thanks. Weird.
1:56:04
Adam Curry: We're from Turtle Island. We're here to fix your
1:56:07
country. Tonight
1:56:09
Unknown: new images from us airstrikes on an Iran affiliated
1:56:12
militia after a Christmas Day attack on US forces in Iraq that
1:56:16
left three service members injured one of them critically,
1:56:20
those retaliatory strikes coming just hours after the US Erbil
1:56:24
airbase was hit with a self detonating drone in northern
1:56:28
Iraq. President Biden briefed on the attack immediately
1:56:31
afterward, ordering the reprisal. Tonight US officials
1:56:35
say those precision airstrikes likely killed a number of
1:56:38
militants affiliated with the group khateeb equally part of a
1:56:42
network of Iran backed groups in the region that have been
1:56:45
targeting US forces over Washington support for Israel.
1:56:49
This is very prevalent amongst the Iranians. It's how they
1:56:52
conduct business and it's very messy because they're using
1:56:55
forces that sometimes don't actually take direct orders. But
1:56:59
ultimately, it's to push back against the influence in the
1:57:01
United States. In a statement Secretary of Defense Lloyd
1:57:04
Austin, saying he and President Biden will not hesitate to take
1:57:08
necessary action to defend the United States, our troops and
1:57:12
our interests. There is no higher priority about 3500 US
1:57:17
troops remain in Iraq and Syria to prevent the resurgence of
1:57:21
ISIS. And since the start of Dawn estimates there have been
1:57:26
roughly 100 attacks against US personnel in the region. And in
1:57:32
Tehran protests this weekend after state media claimed an
1:57:36
Israeli airstrikes in Syria killed a top Iranian general
1:57:39
directly responsible for arming proxy groups in the region.
1:57:43
Tonight Iranian officials vowing revenge. Tonight, US officials
1:57:48
reporting what is at least the 16th attack in the Red Sea since
1:57:52
the start of the Israel Hamas war in the last 24 hours, a US
1:57:56
warship along with fighter jets shooting down a dozen attack
1:58:00
drones as well as several missiles launched by Iran backed
1:58:03
Houthi militants in Yemen. No ships were damaged. And there
1:58:07
are no reported injuries tonight.
1:58:08
Adam Curry: You know, I went back and looked at that footage
1:58:11
of the Houthis landing that helicopter on that ship, which
1:58:16
supposedly now is a tourist attraction.
1:58:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I love it. Man
1:58:21
Adam Curry: that some of that footage just is unreal. It looks
1:58:27
so much like video game footage. It's not even funny. I'm not a
1:58:31
helicopter pilot. The way he landed I didn't even land he
1:58:34
hovers image. I mean there's a lot of stuff on the deck.
1:58:38
There's not there's a winch only landing zone so not a landing
1:58:43
zone for the helicopter. And the way he takes off is like it
1:58:47
seemed almost unreal. And then you look at the the Houthi
1:58:53
rebels in Chris brand new uniforms not a spot on them all
1:58:58
identical boots completely clean something is that is
1:59:04
John C Dvorak: off. I mean um things amiss very um
1:59:07
Adam Curry: and then the footage inside it actually you see a guy
1:59:11
in front of you it actually looks like video game footage.
1:59:14
John C Dvorak: They should have yes this
1:59:17
Adam Curry: this red game the Red Sea stuff is a scam and
1:59:20
there's a reason why France pulled out no one wants to be a
1:59:23
part of it because this somebody somewhere people know this is a
1:59:27
John C Dvorak: scam spreads and everybody else pretty much Yeah,
1:59:31
Adam Curry: but why don't they just saying hey, it's a scam.
1:59:34
You can't do that because it is
1:59:37
John C Dvorak: and when we can but doesn't mean you can go off
1:59:40
and say Ed was shooting down
1:59:41
Adam Curry: drones. Really?
1:59:44
John C Dvorak: The fun right? What
1:59:45
Adam Curry: is this and it let's let's define drone, okay, it's
1:59:49
not a Reaper drone. These these little drones? Yeah, with a bomb
1:59:55
on them.
1:59:57
John C Dvorak: That is something that's very awesome. Ganesh is
2:00:00
very very off with this and these reports are probably part
2:00:03
of it. Let's go to NBC.
2:00:06
Unknown: Tensions flaring in Iraq as the US conducted
2:00:09
precision airstrikes against three facilities used by Iranian
2:00:13
backed militias, the US military saying they killed multiple
2:00:17
fighters, defense officials sending a clear message to
2:00:20
militia groups and to Iran. The US strikes in retaliation for an
2:00:24
attack on Erbil airbase in Iraq on Christmas Day. US officials
2:00:28
say militants launched an attack drone that struck the base,
2:00:31
injuring three US troops, one in critical but now stable
2:00:35
condition and being transferred to launch tool. In a statement
2:00:38
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said these precision
2:00:41
strikes are a response to a series of attacks against US
2:00:44
personnel in Iraq and Syria. There have been at least 105
2:00:48
attacks against bases with Americans in Iraq and Syria over
2:00:51
the past two months, causing minor injuries. These incidents
2:00:55
have dramatically increased since the October 7 Tomasi
2:00:58
attack against Israel rousing Iranian backed militia groups
2:01:02
throughout the region, including the Houthi rebels in Yemen who
2:01:05
have assaulted commercial ships. Just today US forces shut down a
2:01:09
dozen one way attack drones as well as ballistic this
2:01:12
Adam Curry: new this new new term, one way attack drones.
2:01:17
I've heard it before I haven't heard this before
2:01:19
Unknown: we've assaulted commercial ships. Just today US
2:01:22
forces shot down a dozen one way attack drones as well as
2:01:25
ballistic and land attack cruise missiles fired by the Houthis in
2:01:29
the Red Sea region. According to US Central Command, while
2:01:32
chortling in Israel last week, Secretary Austin warned of an
2:01:35
expanding regional conflict. Iran
2:01:38
is raising tensions by continuing to support terrorist
2:01:42
groups and malicious
2:01:45
attacks by these Iranian proxies threatened region citizens and
2:01:51
risk a broader conflict. Cordy joins us tonight live from the
2:01:55
Pentagon and there's a new warning from an international
2:01:58
watchdog group
2:01:59
about Iran's nuclear program. Yeah,
2:02:02
yeah, that's right. Tom. International Atomic Energy
2:02:04
Agency says Iran has sped up production of highly enriched
2:02:08
uranium material used to produce a nuclear bomb production slowed
2:02:12
earlier this year while the US and Iran negotiated the release
2:02:15
of hostage in fact, I would say bom bom, bom
2:02:20
Adam Curry: bom bom bom We can't risk it. Come on Lloyd Austin,
2:02:23
come on, come on man call for the bombs bomb.
2:02:26
John C Dvorak: So just to remind everybody's mind as to my
2:02:31
position on some of this. So they they're killing Iraqis,
2:02:36
basically. And the Iraqi Iraqi Government wants us out. And if
2:02:42
you listen to any Al Jazeera report, they're sick of it. And
2:02:45
they're, we're killing them. And they don't why why are we there?
2:02:48
We're supposed to be out of Iraq. But no, no, no, we have a
2:02:50
bunch of bases there. We have a bunch of bases in Syria. And the
2:02:53
Iraqis in particularly one Assad. I'm sure the Syrians do
2:02:56
too. And so we're bombing him doing what we have to fight
2:03:00
back. But we don't do jack about the drones in Yemen. We have We
2:03:05
know where they're coming from exactly what we pinpoint where
2:03:08
the rockets and drones recover? Why don't we bomb them? We
2:03:11
don't. Why don't we that adds to your adds credence to your
2:03:15
thesis that that whole Yemen thing is bullcrap. And
2:03:18
Adam Curry: don't we still have the base in Djibouti? Which is
2:03:21
right across the water? I
2:03:23
John C Dvorak: think we probably do. And whatever the case is the
2:03:26
Something's fishy about these reports. So let's go to CBS,
2:03:29
which is basically the same report with a variation or to
2:03:33
Unknown: the American bombs struck three locations in Iraq
2:03:36
in the predawn hours, leaving at least one dead and more than a
2:03:40
dozen injured. A US official told CBS News one target was a
2:03:44
warehouse believed to hold drones used by Iranian backed
2:03:48
militias to attack American troops. Drone fired at an
2:03:53
airbase in northern Iraq on Christmas Day, injured three
2:03:57
American service members, one of them critically, it's
2:04:00
a continuation though, Iran and Iranians supported groups or
2:04:06
Iranian aligned militias on on the ground in Iraq continuing to
2:04:11
push the boundaries and trying to identify where the red lines
2:04:14
are for the Americans. And in this particular case, I think
2:04:18
they found it do you
2:04:20
think the militias deliberately crossed that red line,
2:04:24
they're always pushing to try to see just how far they could go.
2:04:29
It was only
2:04:29
the fourth time the Biden administration has retaliated
2:04:33
for the more than 100 attacks conducted by Iranian backed
2:04:37
militias against American troop locations in Iraq and Syria.
2:04:41
Since Israel invaded Gaza. The Biden administration is treading
2:04:45
a thin line between retaliating and triggering a wider war with
2:04:49
Iran. The
2:04:50
US has been trying to avoid escalating the conflict, too
2:04:56
much damage and there's a risk of a massive and potentially
2:04:59
cast Traffic response that results in uncontrolled
2:05:02
escalation.
2:05:04
The war is also threatening to escalate in the Red Sea today in
2:05:08
110 hour period, an American destroyer and jet fighters from
2:05:12
the aircraft carrier eyes now, down to a total of 17 drones and
2:05:16
missiles fired a commercial vessels by the Iranian backroom.
2:05:22
Adam Curry: Camp Lemonnier a Illimani, a United States Naval
2:05:26
Base situated next to Djibouti International Airport. We've had
2:05:32
it since 2002.
2:05:35
John C Dvorak: centerpiece of Moines isn't a lot more Moin or
2:05:38
something like that
2:05:39
Adam Curry: limb on yay. The base supports Operation Enduring
2:05:46
Freedom Horn of Africa, as the centerpiece of a network of
2:05:49
around six US drone and surveillance bases stretching
2:05:52
across the continent. It is strategically located by the BB
2:05:56
l Mandeb. strait which we've heard that name, it's right
2:06:00
there. And yet, we can't figure it out. Though we can figure it
2:06:05
out. But we don't want to we don't want to
2:06:12
John C Dvorak: know I think it's worse than that is something
2:06:14
going on as Red Sea thing is, is good jacks up the price oil does
2:06:20
some benefit, though, is
2:06:22
Adam Curry: that what's the oil doing?
2:06:23
John C Dvorak: Well, it's going up, it's going up, you know,
2:06:26
like $8 but it's like it jacks up the price of oil is something
2:06:30
like you said scam ish about the whole thing. And that Yemenis
2:06:35
take over that ship, which is now a tourist attractions, which
2:06:39
people think we might have been joking about. But no, they're
2:06:41
actually shipping people out there and letting them float
2:06:44
around the ship as a tourist attraction, which is I can go to
2:06:48
it. And
2:06:52
Adam Curry: what is there to see it's just me and go
2:06:54
John C Dvorak: you could probably honk the horn and who
2:06:56
knows what you do
2:07:03
it's just there's a scam viciousness that just surrounds
2:07:08
all of this that is just besides soaking the taxpayer and
2:07:12
continuing the I have no idea what what the end game is.
2:07:19
Everybody denies that as created larger conflict because nobody
2:07:24
wants that supposedly
2:07:29
Adam Curry: I don't know it's it's no it's like disappointing.
2:07:33
It's like can't
2:07:34
John C Dvorak: quite put your finger on to something is up and
2:07:37
the Europeans did all bailed out with helping us they they know
2:07:41
something's up buddies don't they're not saying maybe
2:07:44
Adam Curry: they like the weird blowing our money on this
2:07:46
nonsense. And
2:07:49
John C Dvorak: that's always a possibility. But you know your
2:07:51
money being the reserve currency. It screws everybody.
2:07:55
So I don't know if that's true.
2:07:57
Adam Curry: Well, this is also good for for military style
2:08:01
stuff back here at home and in the hinterland in the homeland
2:08:04
because of course you need more security for New Year's Eve is
2:08:07
going to be dangerous red lights blinking this morning.
2:08:09
Unknown: New York City is getting ready for the biggest
2:08:11
party of the year.
2:08:17
More than a million people are expected to cram in a Time
2:08:20
Square to watch the ball drop on New Year's Eve. The mayor says
2:08:23
police will be prepared. There's
2:08:25
always a serious concern around safety in New Year's Eve because
2:08:32
there's a large number of people the police department is on top
2:08:35
of it. ABC
2:08:36
News has obtained a threat assessment by the FBI, NYPD and
2:08:40
other agencies that says the ball drop could draw interest
2:08:43
from malicious actors looking for targets of opportunity or
2:08:46
from Lone offenders inspired by or reacting to the ongoing
2:08:50
Israel Hamas conflict. The security plan includes 1000s of
2:08:53
officers miles of metal barricades plus drones, dogs and
2:08:57
hundreds of surveillance cameras all to keep the crowds safe. I
2:09:01
think it's a pretty safe bet that someone is going to try to
2:09:04
do something to distract or disrupt the events in Time
2:09:08
Square.
2:09:09
In recent years, though extremists have almost
2:09:11
exclusively targeted law enforcement or military
2:09:14
personnel. Just a year ago, at this very celebration, a young
2:09:17
man from Maine attacked police officers with a knife as they
2:09:20
worked a security checkpoint. It's real
2:09:22
Herculean task to manage that number of people without being
2:09:26
heavy handed, but being protective. Okay.
2:09:30
Adam Curry: All right. New York will be fine, I'm sure.
2:09:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes, sure. Will.
2:09:36
Adam Curry: You want to do a little bit of climate change for
2:09:39
a moment because there is some kind of hopeful news although
2:09:41
quite funny that PBS brought us
2:09:44
Unknown: and Beijing has recorded the most hours of below
2:09:47
freezing temperatures in December in more than seven
2:09:50
decades. A bitter cold wave and heavy 70 years I was in northern
2:09:54
and central parts of China.
2:09:56
Adam Curry: I was I've been watching these 70 years I've
2:10:00
watched the news reports and documentaries, about glaciation
2:10:04
and how that actually works. Yeah. And it's, it appears to be
2:10:09
inverse to the logic. When it's really cold. That's when the
2:10:15
glaciers actually recede in their normal cycle and when it
2:10:19
gets warm the glaciers grow. Have
2:10:22
John C Dvorak: you heard of this? No, not the way you're
2:10:25
describing
2:10:25
Adam Curry: I'm sure I'm not describing it correctly. But I
2:10:28
mean, an all we're seeing is the glaciers actually growing.
2:10:33
They're not melted that I know of. Yeah. That they're, they're
2:10:37
over, you know, like over like a 40 year period. They've grown
2:10:40
Yeah, they, of course, within the in the summer, they melt a
2:10:43
little bit, and that compacts and then they come back strong
2:10:46
as glacier just packed snow or whatever. Definitely
2:10:49
John C Dvorak: moving back and forth. No doubt about that. But
2:10:52
Adam Curry: anyway, with all of this
2:10:55
John C Dvorak: competent nail Gore clipped I don't have it on
2:10:57
here, but I don't get it.
2:10:59
Adam Curry: Oh, no. Oh, no, that's horrible. But what what
2:11:04
the what?
2:11:06
John C Dvorak: I don't know that remember? Clipping that clip? I
2:11:08
Adam Curry: don't know. Well, while you're looking for it, no,
2:11:10
I
2:11:10
John C Dvorak: don't sit on here. There's no way I can not
2:11:12
gonna find it.
2:11:13
Adam Curry: I would say Bill Gates knew it all along. We've
2:11:15
always said this is the way out and it looks like countries who
2:11:19
are afraid they're gonna get dinged for not being net
2:11:24
neutral. Carbon net neutral by 2030. They're wising up you
2:11:29
Unknown: can power is on a roll. In its latest success. Poland
2:11:33
has authorized the construction of 24 small nuclear reactors at
2:11:37
six sites across the country. And two, because electricity
2:11:40
production in Poland is one of the most carbon intensive in the
2:11:44
world, with still almost 70% of the electricity coming from
2:11:48
coal. Nuclear power is back in fashion in many countries,
2:11:53
because of its potential to decarbonize even energy
2:11:56
intensive industries quickly so Japanese who shut down the
2:12:00
nuclear power plants after the Fukushima accident in 2011, are
2:12:04
using them again, and are planning to build new ones to in
2:12:08
California environmentalists have stopped complaining about
2:12:12
nuclear power, and are now fighting to get the plants back
2:12:15
online. In Sweden, teenagers demand that Greenpeace drops the
2:12:20
resistance to nuclear power. And even the Germans are rethinking
2:12:23
their decision to phase out nuclear power.
2:12:28
John C Dvorak: Well, I think that's an optimistic report. I'm
2:12:30
not buying it because she's wrong about Fukushima played my
2:12:33
Fukushima clip.
2:12:34
Adam Curry: Oh, you have a Fukushima clip. But I don't know
2:12:37
if there's restarting Fukushima worse for you if you're trying
2:12:40
John C Dvorak: to but it's not restarted, she kind of implies
2:12:44
that it's been restarted. But here's the story.
2:12:48
Unknown: Moving closer to reopening the world's largest
2:12:51
nuclear power plant, which was shut down following the
2:12:53
Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011. Earlier today, Japan's
2:12:58
nuclear regulator lifted its safety ban on the plant, which
2:13:01
is run by TEPCO. That's Tokyo Electric Power. Local government
2:13:06
bodies still need to sign off on the plants reopening.
2:13:09
Adam Curry: Okay, I mean, but in general, it seems like nuclear
2:13:12
is back in fashion. That's that's kind of correct. People
2:13:15
are thinking about it. Let's hope
2:13:17
John C Dvorak: so. I'm not completely buying into it. But
2:13:20
yeah, I've got a how many they say Poland wants to open
2:13:23
Adam Curry: six? Six SMRs? Or? Yeah, the little one? Yeah. The
2:13:29
teeny ones. That makes so much sense. Yes, those? Yes. Well,
2:13:33
John C Dvorak: we haven't opened one of those in this country
2:13:35
that I know of. No, no.
2:13:38
Adam Curry: Do you remember when 15 minutes cities and everyone's
2:13:41
like, Oh, 15 minutes cities and it'll be back. Everyone is
2:13:44
saying, Oh, this is conspiracy theory.
2:13:48
John C Dvorak: Conspiracy therapy. We're doing this yet.
2:13:51
Okay. No, we had clips of it. Of that. No, I know about the 15
2:13:55
Minute cities but I wouldn't know we had clips
2:13:57
Adam Curry: of people saying that they're going here. This is
2:13:59
the BBC. This is from April, the
2:14:06
Unknown: 15 minutes city for years. It's been a buzzword in
2:14:08
urban planning. But now the concept has gone mainstream and
2:14:12
become a magnet for protests around the world, from Canada to
2:14:15
the UK, with conspiracy groups claiming they're designed to
2:14:18
imprison us in our neighborhoods.
2:14:23
Adam Curry: It's all conspiracy theory. But But this cop 28 Man,
2:14:26
they're all over the 15 Minute cities. 15 minutes? Yes, yes.
2:14:32
With rapid here. This is from there. Well, you're
2:14:35
John C Dvorak: in a 15 minute city. When do you go in the car
2:14:38
more than 50 miles? I
2:14:39
Adam Curry: don't even get in the car. With rapid population
2:14:42
growth and urbanization cities around the world are
2:14:44
battlegrounds for our fight against climate change. The
2:14:48
latest IPCC report highlights integrated urban planning can
2:14:51
reduce emissions by 23 to 26% by 2050. Sprawling congestion must
2:14:57
be transformed into density and conductivity. pollution must be
2:15:01
restored to clean air and car dominated roads and highways
2:15:04
must give way to people centric streets who people centric
2:15:06
streets, clean nature friendly neighborhoods. And yeah, mulch
2:15:13
granny. emerging models like the 15 Minute city focus on urban
2:15:17
proximity and quality of life and representing a turning
2:15:20
point. And so there's this C 40 Network. Have you heard of this?
2:15:25
Okay, a network of 100 mayors of the world's leading cities is
2:15:31
increasing actions to accelerate the adoption of the 15 Minute
2:15:34
city highly livable, walkable people oriented cities, the
2:15:39
brother the green and thriving neighborhood program created in
2:15:44
collaboration with urban partners, provides deep support
2:15:48
to more than 40 cities to help them turn the 15 Minute cities
2:15:51
into reality into real Oh, see 40 That's those mayors also
2:15:57
launched a tool to measure the impacts of 15 minutes city with
2:16:01
Novo Nordisk what are those guys doing in it? Money so I looked
2:16:11
for this in their on their website this what Nigel Farage
2:16:15
is about to tell us so take that with a grain of salt. I came in
2:16:18
late, so I'm not sure if he's full of crap but typically he
2:16:22
he's able to back up what he says. Here's his lament about 50
2:16:27
of us the C 40 project and the 15 Minute cities we all love
2:16:31
jetting off to
2:16:32
Unknown: the Mediterranean somewhere warm it could be a
2:16:34
golf weekend family holiday boys stag do to Ibiza who knows you
2:16:39
name it? We love doing it. You've never heard of C 40 So
2:16:42
there's no reason why you should 96 cities involved including
2:16:45
London International Organization chaired by one city
2:16:50
comm given government funding their latest report is in order
2:16:54
to save the world from climate change.
2:16:57
Adam Curry: You should only be allowed one return airfare every
2:17:01
three years. I suggest you join me in telling city comm where to
2:17:06
go or is he right one return airfare every three years Oh
2:17:14
hope we hope we get to witness that. We're still doing the show
2:17:18
it'll be a great day. And I convinced right
2:17:25
John C Dvorak: not convinced. Well, what else we got? I got
2:17:29
I'm pretty much running out of stuff here I do have the gas
2:17:33
stoves thing wow this is a super we've heard this before but I'm
2:17:37
gonna play the super cut. Good gas stove super cut you may have
2:17:42
heard it is classic.
2:17:44
Unknown: You might think that the US government is coming for
2:17:47
your gas stove. That is a new and absolutely ridiculous one
2:17:51
that comes on Fox News and Republicans are up in arms
2:17:54
because they say the government is coming to take your stoves
2:17:57
what Republicans are saying is dammit they're gonna take your
2:18:01
gas though GOP have been stoking ridiculous new freecom about gas
2:18:05
stoves
2:18:05
no one is taking your gas stove.
2:18:07
It's a right wing freakout over the use of gas stoves is maybe
2:18:10
the latest in a long series of made up culture war battles
2:18:14
designed to enrage and rile up their right wing and paranoid
2:18:18
base.
2:18:18
publicans are prone to conspiracy theories, whether
2:18:21
it's, you know, the Kooky like JFK juniors coming back from the
2:18:25
dead to run with Trump or the sort of duplicitous like this
2:18:30
administration is coming to take away your gas stoves or stop
2:18:34
Adam Curry: for a second Yeah, we did play this was okay well,
2:18:36
I'll play I'll play it again but it
2:18:39
John C Dvorak: goes on and you want to play more just played
2:18:41
that one the gas stove story
2:18:44
Adam Curry: I wanted to say something about that report. So
2:18:46
remind me to come back to that because there's something I was
2:18:49
a guest of what I'm I'm looking forward I can't Oh where's it
2:18:56
where's
2:18:56
John C Dvorak: the get is I guess let me look. You said
2:19:00
Adam Curry: guest Oh story of guests go. Oh,
2:19:04
John C Dvorak: shoot. I
2:19:05
Unknown: got it. I got New York City is moving to snuff out
2:19:07
gassed of New York becoming the first state to ban natural gas
2:19:11
and other fossil fuels and most new buildings including gas
2:19:14
stoves. The new law requires all electric heating and cooking in
2:19:18
new building shorter than seven storeys by 2027 or Cathy Hoko.
2:19:22
And the democratic control state legislature approved a bill on
2:19:25
Tuesday prohibiting the use of fossil fuels for heating and
2:19:29
cooking. The law is the first statewide ban in the nation and
2:19:33
goes into effect in 2026. Beautiful,
2:19:36
Adam Curry: beautiful excellent so
2:19:38
John C Dvorak: all these guys all of them on MSNBC in
2:19:42
particular and also CNN going on and on and on showing off about
2:19:46
gas stoves and we're in the Republicans are all net and then
2:19:50
this happens and this is just the beginning. I know California
2:19:54
is gonna go for this it started with fireplaces. They stopped
2:19:57
him in all new housing development. You couldn't put a
2:20:00
fireplace in and as you're going to be guessed those next in
2:20:03
Washington State's easy to do that because half the state's
2:20:06
already all electric you
2:20:07
Adam Curry: know what we need to invest in Bunsen burners sterno
2:20:12
was storing oh what's lunch? Bunsen? What are those? Were
2:20:15
those cans storing up dirt
2:20:16
John C Dvorak: Oh what are you talking about? Oh yeah propane
2:20:20
Adam Curry: yeah oh yeah. Oh propane that'd be not what I
2:20:23
wanted to say is there's there's there's something in that report
2:20:26
of that supercut about JFK Jr. Coming back to run with us
2:20:31
people keep talking about this. And I you know, serious they
2:20:36
John C Dvorak: keep their they brought it back up because the Q
2:20:38
anon one of the Q anon guys died within the last Jedi died in
2:20:43
June or something. And he was the guy who promoted this and
2:20:46
had the big the big meeting in Dallas to to say hello to JFK
2:20:53
Jr. When he showed up. Of course, he never showed up of
2:20:55
course.
2:20:55
Adam Curry: Oh, what a what a bummer. He didn't show up. Oh,
2:20:58
no. So you mute
2:20:59
John C Dvorak: but this guy just died recently. And I think that
2:21:02
and I think he may have been Q anon because q anon has just
2:21:05
fallen off the the map places leader. Yeah. Well, I think
2:21:09
that's that's what you heard
2:21:10
Adam Curry: is that and there's one more of that is somewhat
2:21:13
troubling that people really really are going for this. All
2:21:17
the Victoria's Secret models are men. Taylor. Taylor Swift is a
2:21:23
man. Jennifer Aniston is now Jennifer Aniston. It's really
2:21:28
odd. I don't and it's a wonder why I don't know it's catching
2:21:32
fire though. It was like oh this all men and there are people
2:21:36
very serious about this. There's entire telegram groups that you
2:21:40
know oh yeah. Oh no, they're all men. They're dudes. Well, this
2:21:44
John C Dvorak: is like the birds aren't real.
2:21:46
Adam Curry: Well that's true. We all know that. And with that,
2:21:49
I'd like to thank you for your warning to you the man who put
2:21:52
the CD in the penta con ladies gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:21:55
on the other end the One Only Mr. John Cena
2:22:01
John C Dvorak: well in money new Mr. Adam curry in the morning
2:22:04
your ships and seeing boots on the ground and feet in the air
2:22:07
and subs in the water games are nice out there in the morning.
2:22:11
Adam Curry: Hanging out in the room at troll room.io Or you
2:22:14
might be listening on a modern podcast app.
2:22:23
I got him 616 5816 100 down.
2:22:28
John C Dvorak: Oh no. 200 200 down it says it was last same as
2:22:31
last week. I checked
2:22:32
Adam Curry: him about 20 minutes ago was 1733. So it's kind of on
2:22:36
par. We're kind of equal. Thanks. By the way, I think the
2:22:41
Swift up is over.
2:22:43
John C Dvorak: Oh, what happened? headline, Yoko
2:22:47
Adam Curry: swift doe fans mock video of Taylor Swift comforting
2:22:53
Brittany mahomes amid chiefs downfall. So she is now being
2:23:00
seen as the reason the Chiefs failed.
2:23:07
John C Dvorak: So so it was not the fact that the receivers
2:23:10
can't catch the ball. Dropping dropping. Number one team for
2:23:14
drop passes did not have to do it that the name
2:23:16
Adam Curry: Yoko swift toe says I like to go
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: swift Oh, coast Swift.
2:23:22
Adam Curry: You broke up the band man, Yoko swift toe. Well,
2:23:28
these trolls are hanging out in the troll room and you can join
2:23:31
them by going to troll room.io which is, which is a good place
2:23:37
you can get the live stream. There's live that we've started
2:23:40
revolution, really this live podcasting where people just
2:23:44
record instead of being like Phil Spector with a wall of
2:23:48
sound and recording and going back and removing every and Ebb
2:23:53
and cutting out silences making completely inhumane which is
2:23:56
part of the reason podcasts for the podcast winter. blame it all
2:24:01
on that and all this NPR people try well, and we do it and do
2:24:05
podcasts like we do NPR? It's great. It's gonna be fantastic.
2:24:08
No, no, just one.
2:24:10
John C Dvorak: Good, do it.
2:24:11
Adam Curry: Do it live. Do it live. Oh, here's the Hollywood
2:24:15
Reporter. I have I have a go podcasting report. Ready for
2:24:19
this? Yeah, going into 2020 for podcasting executives. But not
2:24:26
that would be you know, it's not me. Podcasting. Executives
2:24:31
remain incredibly bullish on growth in the sector, with an
2:24:35
actor in the sector, with an eye towards creating multiple
2:24:40
revenue streams for creators and using artificial intelligence
2:24:44
and video to expand the audience.
2:24:49
John C Dvorak: To the audience is going to be aI Yeah.
2:24:52
Adam Curry: Exactly what will soak the advertisers with AI
2:24:55
audience Exactly. I think you're right. I think you nailed it. So
2:24:59
you You can go to troll room.io And that's where you can, of
2:25:02
course, Listen Live and you control along. It's very
2:25:05
healthy, it's a good place for you to do it. Don't do this on
2:25:08
social media that's very bad. You are literally not loving
2:25:11
your neighbors as yourself when you do that. The word you're
2:25:14
bitching and moaning and saying horrible things. And that's okay
2:25:17
in a troll room because that's just like Tourette's. Just get
2:25:20
it out there to femoral rolls away. No one can call you on it
2:25:23
later. And it's a good place to let it all hang out. It's like
2:25:25
a, like a wailing wall. You know, just a place to go yell,
2:25:29
go yell at the clouds. Do it in the troll room, please. That is
2:25:32
the appropriate people yelling at me all day and I feel good
2:25:34
about it. Because I know Yeah. Oh, in the troll room. Oh, they
2:25:38
said horrible things. Like what? Give me an example trolls can be
2:25:43
something horrible that you give them
2:25:44
John C Dvorak: something trolls let it let him have it. Yeah.
2:25:48
Adam Curry: Let's see. Rap sucks. Okay. raps I swear to
2:25:55
you. Them sucks. We hate you see, this?
2:25:58
John C Dvorak: sucks. Yeah,
2:25:59
Adam Curry: there was only created an X with an X with an
2:26:02
X. Yeah,
2:26:02
John C Dvorak: of course. It's always with an X.
2:26:04
Adam Curry: Yes. Adam is gay. There we go. Your mom is gay.
2:26:07
JCD is ugly. All the chiefs are bang and swift. I mean, this is
2:26:12
great. Even Jesus thinks Adams conversion is annoying.
2:26:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a good one. I like that one. Well,
2:26:23
boy, that's the rest of them are lame.
2:26:24
Adam Curry: Let's create let's go Brandon. Yes. Okay, who cut
2:26:27
your hair curry. All right. All right. See? So that's usually
2:26:30
it's a little worse than that. But you know, the put them on
2:26:33
the spot. They kind of fall down. They choke this chokers
2:26:35
their doubt towards whether they're choke controls are
2:26:38
chokers, this show control. Choke controls. No good, y'all.
2:26:45
Anyway, that's the place to go. And you can also do that in a
2:26:48
modern podcast app don't fall for what the podcasting
2:26:52
executives say. Beaune, whatever they are. Yeah, well, it's the
2:26:56
Spotify, people who throw your favorite podcast off. It's
2:27:00
Google podcasts, which are closing and now you have to
2:27:03
import your subscriptions into into YouTube music. Oh, yeah,
2:27:07
that's right. So we're now gonna get him out and podcast, avid
2:27:10
podcast apps.com. And when we update the show, and we publish
2:27:13
it 90 seconds, your app is telling you that none of this to
2:27:16
our weight from Apple. Although Apple could be part of our
2:27:20
system, they just like climate change. They'd like to ruin the
2:27:24
world by polling feeds all day long.
2:27:28
John C Dvorak: And is that somebody that's just like, yeah,
2:27:31
that's that is a an issue. climate issue.
2:27:35
Adam Curry: It is a huge climate issue. It's I hear it's worse
2:27:37
than Bitcoin, which is
2:27:40
John C Dvorak: the same thing.
2:27:40
Adam Curry: I'm sure you have a value for value. Since we don't
2:27:47
count on AI or video to grow the audience, whatever that means.
2:27:52
And so we can monetize you. We don't like doing that. All we
2:27:57
want to do is just do the show. We want you to like the show.
2:28:01
And if you do send us some value back we call it the value for
2:28:04
value model. We pioneered it. We're very proud of it. People
2:28:08
are now using it in many different arenas. And that's
2:28:12
that's a good thing. It's a very good thing, then you can do that
2:28:16
through time, talent or treasure. Now we love it when
2:28:19
people promote the show hit people in the mouth. There's all
2:28:24
kinds of nice things you can do that none of that is ever shows
2:28:27
up on no agenda social. There's rarely anything nice there. But
2:28:31
you could create websites for that. Without a doubt Sir Paul
2:28:35
couture has done such a beautiful job in bringing back
2:28:38
the no agenda Art Generator, really appreciate the work that
2:28:42
he's that he's done on that to make it not just work again. But
2:28:47
he upgraded the whole thing. Then it has some spiffy little
2:28:52
spiffy little new additions, we got the leaderboard there you
2:28:55
can see which artists have been picked the most and we always
2:28:59
get the scholar, an entire smorgasbord of art to choose
2:29:03
from which is beautiful. Even if we don't choose your art. We
2:29:06
really appreciate that you did that for the show because new
2:29:09
art is what makes the show great. It makes it noticeable.
2:29:15
It gets people interested, and we want to thank dirty Jersey
2:29:19
whore for bringing us the artwork for episode 1619 That
2:29:25
was titled flash to bang. Now I got an explanation of flash to
2:29:29
bang flash to bang from K OG phonebook. OGFO MK flash to bang
2:29:36
is an artillery term for visually seeing a flash and then
2:29:41
as the sound travels you can assess how far away the
2:29:43
explosion is by the speed of sound.
2:29:45
John C Dvorak: Yes like doing lightning you can figure out how
2:29:48
far away the lightning flash
2:29:51
Adam Curry: the bank count flash the bank, I guess it's probably
2:29:54
one second for every kilometer I think or every mile.
2:29:57
John C Dvorak: run everything mile per second.
2:30:00
Adam Curry: Oh, before I forget one of our you know, the the no
2:30:03
agenda logo, which is you know, classic with the with the, I
2:30:08
think what is our classic with is that with the microphone, the
2:30:11
M five
2:30:11
John C Dvorak: with the microphone the the cross through
2:30:13
it,
2:30:13
Adam Curry: and that is on on a race car. That race car is
2:30:18
driven by Ashlyn SPIE Ashlynn.
2:30:20
John C Dvorak: Speed, I put a link to the video that her dad
2:30:24
posted. Very good video of Ashlynn and and yeah, yeah, they
2:30:30
got our sticker on there. Yeah. And it is a killer driver. She's
2:30:34
gonna be very famous. She's
2:30:35
Adam Curry: gonna be incredibly famous. We are very proud to be
2:30:39
on her car. And she her dream is indie. And I think she can make
2:30:43
that. She's there looking for sponsors for 2020s. Or like 17
2:30:48
or something. Yes, yes. And she does lap records and everything.
2:30:52
Yeah. And she just, I think we can say badass. And you know,
2:30:56
that's the kind of if, anyway, I think people should if you're
2:30:59
into the you're into sponsoring cars, that's a driver, you want
2:31:04
to look out for him. We're very, very proud to have that free
2:31:08
publicity on her car. And it's prominently displayed displayed
2:31:11
in that documentary. I might add, like, Oh, look at that.
2:31:15
There's no agenda logo. So back to dirty Jersey whore. He
2:31:19
brought us the Santa Claus with the nice list and we were both
2:31:24
on it check marked. It was interesting because it it was
2:31:27
not the actual format that we typically like or typically the
2:31:32
the template was,
2:31:33
John C Dvorak: it was yes, it was different. Yes. No
2:31:36
Adam Curry: agenda at the top and then you have Craig vorak
2:31:39
down below. This was the No, it was the no agenda. Nice list. I
2:31:42
liked that Santa had the mic and he had the headphones. I was
2:31:45
kind of cute because there was a lot of Santa art. A lot of
2:31:49
Christmas art. We always do that when it comes Christmas time.
2:31:52
And let's see some of the things we've looked at other people I
2:31:55
John C Dvorak: got a kick out of like next to that too. Over. Is
2:31:59
the black swan inspired and instead of a black swan is a
2:32:02
black duck. Yes. Just thought that was written into next to
2:32:06
Santa here at this nice list. One is that picture of Taylor
2:32:10
Swift. Yeah, not done by AI generator here. Darren, this is
2:32:15
gonna be the future of a lot of this stuff. Yeah, well, so we're
2:32:18
just everything's AI I mean, number of original pieces on
2:32:21
here is minor. Yeah, this is
2:32:23
Adam Curry: true. It's going away. There was a merry
2:32:27
christmas goat. Just kind of cute, but we're more we're
2:32:31
traditionalists. So we did talk for a while about Martin J Jays
2:32:35
Santa with a big candy cane. If you recall that one. Yeah. But
2:32:43
why didn't we pick that?
2:32:45
Unknown: Where is it? It's
2:32:48
Adam Curry: it's down near the bottom there
2:32:51
John C Dvorak: on the ball Yeah, well, I thought we didn't Yeah,
2:32:55
you're right because Martin JJ decided to come back from the
2:32:58
dead and produce some art he was dominating the whole thing for a
2:33:02
long time. Yeah, I think it was because it was it didn't have
2:33:06
the kind of flair that the naughty nice list did it which
2:33:12
is something original. This was very I would say unoriginal it
2:33:16
was just
2:33:16
Adam Curry: a it was kind of a nice yeah, just a nice Santa's
2:33:19
pic Yeah,
2:33:20
John C Dvorak: yeah, it was a nice pic. It was dynamite. And
2:33:23
it couldn't be used, but it wasn't didn't have any any
2:33:27
oomph. I think I
2:33:28
Adam Curry: would say the the close second disgust for sure
2:33:31
was the Jewish Christmas with yes this what
2:33:35
John C Dvorak: if it wasn't for the fact that it was Christmas
2:33:37
Christmas Christmas we left for real Christmas sorry, the Jewish
2:33:41
Christmas one which was in done in Chinese style lettering. With
2:33:47
a Merry Christmas and a Jewish star on a Chinese takeout
2:33:51
container. Yeah. Absolutely funniest piece by correct a
2:33:56
record of all the pieces but it was a little more than we could
2:34:01
probably know wasn't going to happen but we appreciate it
2:34:05
humor. We
2:34:06
Adam Curry: did. I even sent it to Horowitz. He thought bless
2:34:10
you. He thought it was pretty funny. Because I said where are
2:34:14
you going to? Bless you. Oh, you got cool. Sorry. You got the
2:34:18
coop.
2:34:18
John C Dvorak: We got the sneeze you got the coop. I know
2:34:21
Horowitz woody I was gonna send him a copy of it. But I bet you
2:34:24
did. Yeah, so definitely funny.
2:34:26
Adam Curry: Thank you dirty Jersey whore. We appreciate what
2:34:29
you do there. We thank you so much for putting that together
2:34:32
for us. Thank you of course to all of the artists for all of
2:34:35
the artwork that you do and for all producers, anyone who's
2:34:38
delivering time talent treasure, we appreciate you so much that
2:34:41
is what kept that has kept us on the air and we continue to do so
2:34:45
as long as the value flow goes both ways is we're providing you
2:34:48
values in the back the show continues. It's that easy was
2:34:51
just like a whorehouse. I don't know. What did I say that? I'm
2:34:54
not sure why. Yeah.
2:34:56
John C Dvorak: Disgusting.
2:34:57
Adam Curry: Let's thank our executive producers and
2:35:00
associated executive producers kicking it off with Sir otaku
2:35:03
from Flower Mound, Texas, who comes in with a cool oh, this is
2:35:08
uh, this was for the 123123 promotion. Yeah. Tell us about
2:35:13
this promotion. What is it? Because he's early on this? No,
2:35:17
John C Dvorak: no going on me. Yeah, I
2:35:19
Adam Curry: typed the newsletter, you put it in the
2:35:21
newsletter, I
2:35:21
John C Dvorak: put it in the newsletter 123123 Because at the
2:35:24
end of the year, the as we wrap up the year, on Sunday, it's
2:35:28
going to be 123 That's 12 three, one, which is to throw 3123 And
2:35:37
you put it up and it's 123123 and everybody, according to I've
2:35:41
told you to meet me about this. She says that Vegas is loaded to
2:35:45
the gills with people getting married on 1231230 I can imagine
2:35:49
that and I didn't think about it but yeah, because you want to
2:35:52
get married I've my recommendation. So you never
2:35:55
miss an anniversary. You want to get married on something that's
2:35:59
memorable.
2:36:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, like 88888
2:36:03
John C Dvorak: yeah as me 88888 Can't can't go wrong. So
2:36:07
Adam Curry: sir otaku actually did not come in with the with
2:36:10
the precise amount and he has a reason for it. He says John and
2:36:13
Adam. Here's my donation of 123023 so I misread it there to
2:36:20
celebrate my upcoming 60th birthday on 1230 2023 Do you
2:36:25
have such a thing as the birthday Club? Well no we read
2:36:28
your your we we sell it we congratulate people on birthdays
2:36:32
and you're on the list. If not Oh Then here's to a great year
2:36:36
of media deconstruction from two of the best in the universe. Can
2:36:38
I get in a JCD mac and cheese karma with a little girl yeah,
2:36:46
sir otaku Duke of North Texas and the Red River Valley kilo
2:36:50
five Victor Zulu 70 threes
2:36:54
John C Dvorak: you slaves get used to mac and cheese macaroni
2:36:58
and cheese melted together mac and
2:37:01
Unknown: cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese
2:37:06
everybody
2:37:10
you've got karma
2:37:15
John C Dvorak: so we have this one of the few times we do this
2:37:18
Jay did this she said she could do it she's
2:37:21
Adam Curry: really going above and beyond with this stuff.
2:37:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah as you will and we do not want people doing
2:37:26
this because it's very risky. But yeah, because we forget or
2:37:30
it gets lost or whatever but we did get the certificate off and
2:37:34
everything and I'll read this from from a guest as Molly
2:37:37
rubbish. It has something to do with Casey Pakula please do not
2:37:44
read this information until after Christmas as it is a gift
2:37:49
to Ross rubbish from his son Tynan who has been hit in the
2:37:54
mouth and made his father proud by being a dedicated no agenda
2:37:59
listener. We would like Ross to receive the PhD certificate
2:38:03
immediate deconstruction to proudly display in his office.
2:38:06
But if this is no longer available, knighthood would be
2:38:08
very appropriate. No, we got you got your knighthood you got your
2:38:11
certificate. Night name is Ross, the boss of broken ladder ranch.
2:38:16
I assume he's on today's list. Yes. And it was a surprise. Ah,
2:38:20
so I think that they got the certificate and put it under the
2:38:24
tree. So I think it all worked out.
2:38:26
Adam Curry: And you know that for Christmas. One of my gifts
2:38:29
Tina framed my PhD. Oh, that's sweet is good. And then we
2:38:36
haven't done this ever either. But since they sent it, Jeff
2:38:40
Larson, who was deed donation came in from his wife. I think
2:38:46
it was on the last show. I mean, I think was the last show.
2:38:51
Here's here's his response when he found out I lifted you were
2:38:58
douchebags Oh my god. Did I miss it? They ran away on purpose. So
2:39:03
there wouldn't be like already happened. Oh my god. Did you
2:39:08
send that message?
2:39:17
This is the joy did the no agenda show Brian
2:39:20
John C Dvorak: I think he should be one of the judges on the
2:39:23
masked singer.
2:39:26
Adam Curry: did write it He'd be perfect. We have a switcheroo
2:39:30
from Luca Marissa as Beto from Switzerland. Is this
2:39:36
Switzerland? No. Yes. Switzerland so Vasa I must be T
2:39:40
roll. I guess I thought it was Austria. It
2:39:43
John C Dvorak: Tyrell was it I think is where it is got
2:39:47
Switzerland as the Yeah. And he says Switzerland. Three,
2:39:50
Adam Curry: three 3.33 switcharoo donation on behalf of
2:39:52
Marty from Alton, Switzerland, who was to OTG to do it himself.
2:39:58
His message related my Merry Christmas back from a filthy
2:40:01
pervert. No jingles, no karma. All right. All right, we got
2:40:05
you. We got your switch root out, ma'am. And
2:40:08
John C Dvorak: then we go right to Michael Kellner in Ripon,
2:40:11
California 33333. And he says, Thank you. No jingles, no karma
2:40:16
and we think that's a winner. That is
2:40:18
Adam Curry: a big winner compared to the next one
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warranties Essex Maryland 33333 also a switcheroo for James
2:40:27
Franklin of Midland, Texas. We'll do that. In the morning,
2:40:31
gentlemen and happy new year. I've been a listener for a
2:40:33
decade. Wow. And have a battered coffee mug with the missing
2:40:37
handles approve it. Thanks for keeping on maybe
2:40:39
John C Dvorak: can't be decades.
2:40:41
Adam Curry: Why not? Oh, it says a decade doesn't need a decade
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John C Dvorak: next we have Dennis Barnes of Sacramento,
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Adam Curry: we you know, but before we continue, I want to do
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a special a health karma for Dred Scott. He has got something
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Adam Curry: Yes. He think he got the Cuf Oh no. I got one for
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John C Dvorak: Jim, battled in Davenport, Iowa. Thank you for
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the sanity over the years I fully appreciate the work you to
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do. My mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and
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I'm requesting healing prayers for Katie bout sold from the
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November so please give her a belated biscuit. And my dad
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Adam Curry: Okay, so we have to have a biscuit. Katie Katie bats
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Adam Curry: Everything there. We have Christie J. from Huntington
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Adam Curry: Oh hold on another biscuit we're running out they
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always
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John C Dvorak: give me a biscuit on my birthday and a deed
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douching you've been de deuced I hit her in her mouth they wrote
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on a road trip two years ago and is the first thing we listened
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to in the morning after show day cheers to many more years love
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John C Dvorak: From Florida Lawn solutions in Panama City Beach,
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Adam Curry: I didn't get it. I
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John C Dvorak: think you got your plug. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I think I'll do the next one then. Sir shelf wood a
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might think this is row of ducks. But actually, it's two
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frown upon being Associate Executive Producer, I embrace
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that he's referring to Dana Brunetti da. I embrace my AEP
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wonderful and Merry Christmas in the hang out. Standby 333 33 or
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Adam Curry: all right then we have a donation here of 202 from
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EB in Carlsbad, California. I'm going to truncate it is way too
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it correctly? I would have had an executive producer credit. I
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spent the better part of weak priming my little bro for being
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called out as a douchebag I guess we'll do that for Jameis
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only to be called out myself for under donating he left his ass
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cop. 28 elite and I can't really afford this but whatever. I love
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when I heard JCD call out their donation before me on show 1619
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only to have Adam say no it's the next one. EB My heart sank
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Adam Curry: I had my earbuds in was dropping my shitzu off for
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grooming at PetSmart Petsmart because I didn't want to miss my
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call out and a little bro being called out. Wow, something went
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Brunetti will hate that. Okay, of course, there brunette
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Associate Executive Producer. No, he doesn't like that. And
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that is it for Executive Associate Executive producers
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John C Dvorak: Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. He's got it right.
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Yeah, in Bensenville Florida. Okay. I got mine by Tm 20 for
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noteworthy. Those are two you might want to look for I have
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not I haven't gone through all I have not
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Adam Curry: tried any of them. But our guests love them. They
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love this coffee. So I gave him ITM 20 for 20% off. No good.
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Yeah. And you're go by your own. So I said David
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and from his Rockstar sisters. How sweet is it? Zoe? Zoe? Zoe.
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Adam Curry: I think Zoe, I think it's so I'm saying Zoe.
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John C Dvorak: I think he's always got a Y on it. No,
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Adam Curry: it hasn't. Uhm, loud
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Antonio, Texas. Want to thank all these people who are making
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Adam Curry: we love doing these shows. And we'd love everybody
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Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out we had people in the
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mouth.
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Adam Curry: Shem that sold wishes his mom Katie and belated
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Happy Birthday celebrate on the November 29. While you are late
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Jim Ryan Powell wishes Carolyn Hafner, a very happy one. Her
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birthday was on her 50th birthday was on December 18th
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Jake Warburton turns 42 today and Cerro Taku turns 60 on the
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30th and John calibre wishes Anna EBA Happy Birthday her
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birthday is on the 30th of December happy birthday for
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everybody here the best podcast in the universe. So we
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congratulate Rosh rubbish. Is that how we pronounce his name
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rubbish rich?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, rubbish. I'm gonna make a comment about
2:58:23
the birthdays first. So I got a note during the show from Ryan,
2:58:28
who wanted to wish Carolyn Hafner birthday, but we call it
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in the last show he called her Mrs. Powell and he's not married
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even though he's thinks she's the greatest thing since sliced
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bread. He says so I'm saying marry her. Do yourself a favor.
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Adam Curry: Get it over with just do it. Just do it, bro. So
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Ross got that beautiful surprise the PhD along with a knighthood.
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So that doesn't just come with something in the mail brother.
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No, no, we bring out the swords for our knights.
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John C Dvorak: He's our knight for the day game. Here you go.
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's right here. So Ross Robins Get your butt up
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on stage right here on the podium. You're about to join all
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of the other no agenda knights and names here at the roundtable
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and I'm very proud to pronounce the cape v as Sir Ross the boss
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Knights and Dames no one
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well asked me did I hear you open up a can?
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John C Dvorak: Not really. Oh, but you didn't hear the phone
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room?
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Adam Curry: It was the phone ringing. I thought you were
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opening a show beer? I'm sorry.
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John C Dvorak: No Show.
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Adam Curry: Why don't you go answer the phone and
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John C Dvorak: I will answer the phone were
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Adam Curry: you about to tell us that so as part of the people
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are trying to make you feel lonely and trying to get you on
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its own. So you don't want to be dying of loneliness, which is,
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of course been propagated by the entire pharmaceutical industry.
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Everyone's trying to get you to feel lonely and feel bad. So you
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can do a couple of things. You can go to church, synagogue, the
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they're kind of different from the rest and believe me you are
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but you will meet fellow travelers at a no agenda meetup.
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They are held all over the world on almost every single day of
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the week. It is completely producer organized. No agenda
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you send a report to us even if you had a very small meetup
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Knoxville post Boxing Day Meetup is an example
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Unknown: below this is number array and prepare yourself for
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the big coast. Boxing Day beat up. Everybody is here in the
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morning is Billy Bones and Bravo boxing gloves to hit people in
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the mouth and no one showed up. Okie dokie.
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Adam Curry: All right. At least he got Billy Bones out there.
3:02:05
We're happy that happened. We have a meetup taking place
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today. The end of year started the trip that is in Indonesia so
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it's probably already over. That would have been an SV H spa in
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Lombok Indonesia Manish is right near Bali a sure hope we get a
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meet up report from those guys. We have Ireland Yes, I told you
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it's all over the place at the railway Social Club had a meet
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up at Rosslare Harbor, county, Wexford, Ireland hopefully get a
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meet up report from them. Tomorrow the frozen hellscape
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meet up 630 At anglers Bar and Grill in Hayward, Wisconsin. We
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have another Ireland's oh my gosh, the Kestrel tomorrow at
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doesn't have a time but it will be in Dublin, Ireland Muppet
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head is organizing that and on Saturday, the KC meet up the
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supple wrist edition 333 at 403 Club Kansas City Kansas just a
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few of the meetups taking place between now and New Years. Part
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some of those reports hopefully to you on New Year's Eve no
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sometimes you
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triggered you wouldn't be everybody feels the same. It's
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like
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Adam Curry: it's so like a party. It really is. It's always
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a party. It's good party. It's a good time. Ask around people
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will tell you what do you you have another noisemaker Oh, boy,
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I got two ISOs I'll play him for you right now. Play mine first
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because you're gonna win I don't know if I'm gonna win you only
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have one I only have one Okay, here we go. So don't limit the
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Lumia to shopping for this thing you know it's probably something
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really horrible in Arabic so I'm
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John C Dvorak: thinking it is something
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Adam Curry: from afraid to play that one. I do have this good
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luck with podcasting. I don't like the end of it but good luck
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with its flips a little bit luck with podcasting.
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Adam Curry: What? Well, you heard it, good.
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Adam Curry: Okay, good luck with podcasting. And now it's time
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for Google. To see now we looked at the we have some actual
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there's a little drop off during the donation segment, but people
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come back to listen To the good news segment, I think
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John C Dvorak: that coming back to listen to the ISO challenge.
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Adam Curry: Well, they're staying for the good news
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segment. So I'll take it. What do you have today, John, for
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your good news.
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John C Dvorak: We have a story from Midwest. Save
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Adam Curry: your glasses on and look,
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John C Dvorak: it's the Christmas miracle. Now wait a
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minute, where you play it. We've had animal stories. Yeah, we've
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had people stories, babies and tornadoes story. We have
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everything so far, but we haven't had this kind of
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Christmas miracle. The Holidays
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Unknown: had a rocky start for the Hansen's but getting their
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car back just in time for Christmas, they say is the best
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gift they could ask for. We got the news that it was stolen
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right after Thanksgiving. The only thing worse than having
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your car stolen is having it happen around the holidays. So
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it was gut wrenching. Matt And Christy Hanson love their 9095
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accurate Integra so much. They invested $18,000 And we're
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storing it for their son. But their plans vanished when it was
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stolen from a body shop on November 29. It would be the
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best Christmas miracle. And that
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was one of the things that she had said that it would really be
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a Christmas miracle to make their Christmas if, if they were
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able to find their car. Travis Christiansen
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saw the story on KSL. But no one could imagine what happened
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next. It
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was like a needle in a haystack on a
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work drive. Travis spotted the car tucked behind a building and
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Taylorsville just
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got a closer look at the car and thought Man, this really looks
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like the car. And so I was able to go and dig up the KSL
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article. He
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messaged me, I think I found your car. He sent some pictures.
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I couldn't believe it. He didn't want any of our reward money. He
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was just happy to get our car back. I felt
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really good to be a part of that and helping them help get that
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car back to him. So they could they could drive it, enjoy it
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and continue to make memories with it. Travis
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knows firsthand what it's like to have a car stolen, making
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this experience that much better.
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It's a really fun story to be a part of.
3:07:04
This is another chapter in this cars story.
3:07:09
As for the Hansen's they plan to pay it forward,
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I think that's a reminder that we can help other people more
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than we know.
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Now, as you heard Travis isn't interested in that monetary
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reward, but he says he really wants to take a picture with the
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family. And of course the red Acura I'm going to make here KSL
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five news.
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Adam Curry: Oh, isn't that nice? You could have cut it down by 30
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seconds.
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John C Dvorak: I realize it's under two minutes. I'm good with
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it. Well,
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Adam Curry: it was a nice miracle a Christmas miracle the
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red Christmas miracle read accurate as back Oh, I'm so
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happy.
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Unknown: A good news story from JCD had the vibes for you and me
3:07:56
and we all feel better now he's done his bit. To back to
3:08:01
reality. That's turning to shit.
3:08:04
Adam Curry: Good news, everybody. You know, it's a good
3:08:07
balance. I like doing these good news segments. It makes
3:08:10
everybody feel good. It does people feel good. Don't Don't
3:08:14
you feel good by by playing the good news segment.
3:08:17
John C Dvorak: I think it's dynamite segment if it's getting
3:08:20
people to listen, so that now they have to listen to in the
3:08:23
show mixes which are usually better than than the good show.
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Oh,
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Adam Curry: they're always better than the good news.
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John C Dvorak: We are better than half the show.
3:08:32
Adam Curry: We got Professor JJ checking in from China. He's got
3:08:35
an under Show mix. We got Leo Laporte. I'm sorry Leola puke.
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Wow, that would have been amazing. I don't know how that
3:08:44
came up all of a sudden must be on my mind. And we got Sir Chris
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Wilson, bringing you and of show mixes right here and coming up
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bowl was Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean. And I am coming to you
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. It's here in FEMA
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Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain
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I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Go back to your mass singer.
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John C Dvorak: Bass singer,
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donations.com We'll see our New Year's Eve everybody meet us
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here live. We're looking forward to it. Until then adios mofos
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who we who and such I took my troubles down to
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democracy like that. Love Potion nine tanker
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I know time sprout genocide gave me chills come off and the thing
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is a virus people to power with as a singular cold on the
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citizens. Why would you not know nine Danka tanks proud genocide,
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Ursula von der Leyen cheerlead of apartheid regime that she
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calls a vibrant democracy as a cobra ISIS of children clothes
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what is misinformation out
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nine
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when citizens voted the wrong way in a referendum in Ireland
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they're made to false again defenders of democracy like we
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grew up in Brussels and that government is crushed no that
3:11:05
close Mercer von der Leyen would not sprout genocide is
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misinformation out there love to know without a single vote from
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the citizens
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Paul games construction twice a week for free thorough man Nate
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and then you then hold your head
3:12:41
friendship you
3:13:09
we have 12 years for this planet is going to suffer irreversible
3:13:14
damage I was considered crazy the world is going to end in 12
3:13:17
years as far as private jets are concerned would you want to ban
3:13:20
those? Well
3:13:22
it was most to 12 years without a major hurricane right after Al
3:13:26
Gore told us we're gonna have Katrina's every year and we're
3:13:29
all going to dump they told us back then that we had about 10
3:13:31
years and that was 14 years ago now they started a new timeline
3:13:35
they started the clock over again it's like turning the
3:13:37
hourglass upside down then you know Margaret Hamilton with a
3:13:40
flying monkey next to him. This
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Adam Curry: is for real. It is not made up. weeks ago, it was a
3:13:49
breeze outside
3:13:52
Unknown: we have 12 years to turn this around. Oh
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we need some form of warming. It's freezing. We're going to
3:14:04
die with a your
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Utah time wisely, watch Spaceballs grim, grim movie with
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a shawl to be with you.
3:14:26
Adam Curry: Adios mopho.org/in A good luck with podcasting.
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