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John C Dvorak: Looking for a double? Adam curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: January 11 2024 This is your award winning nation
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media assassination episode 1624. This is no agenda. Mike
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events and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we
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congratulate the Michigan Wolverines and Jhansi Dvorak
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skills.
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Adam Curry: Yes, and other sports ball reference. What Who
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is this
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John C Dvorak: congratulate Harding to? Is the know is that
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football? Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. Okay. The Wolverines that
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this guy used to be a coach around here. Jim Harbaugh
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finally wins. Now in the olden days.
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Adam Curry: Oh goodness. When
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John C Dvorak: I was at another podcast. I used quest.
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Adam Curry: You went to the games.
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John C Dvorak: I used to request sweatshirts and championship
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sweatshirts and championship jur. Hoodies anything but that
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that ended I don't know why I don't get you know, I used to be
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able to get the free clothing from the US for us to ask for
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you in the mastic. We have the Michigan local one. Now but
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Adam Curry: you forgot you forgot to ask because you're
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just too busy with media deconstruction and
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John C Dvorak: probably forgetting to ask. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: you are. Well, I'm going to ask
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John C Dvorak: open invitation. Anybody who wants to I wear it.
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Wear Around Berkeley, I'll be wearing a Michigan championship
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thing. Very wet shirt. Hoodie.
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Adam Curry: Well, you asked for that. And I'm going to ask for
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some var AC CUSOs. To what var AC CUSOs What's that? Ah, we
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know what a que eso is? A Q. So Q S Oh,
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John C Dvorak: yeah. You're back on the I noticed that you're
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thinking about hooking up that. That news that new digital so
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yes,
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Adam Curry: yes. Var AC, you know, so. And then
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John C Dvorak: you can like do email over the ham radio waves.
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's it's not email. But you can do you
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can already do that. But this new digital chat. Yes. And you
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can leave messages for each and you can relay so if you can't
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reach me, you can relay through another station automatically.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool. So I was real productive the as I
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clean up the whole studio. And I'm like, you know how to clean
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up the studio, you
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John C Dvorak: get all jacked up. So you're gonna do this now?
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I already did it. It's up and running. Kealoha and your
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community has sent me a note. Ya know?
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Adam Curry: What? To the radio the rig that's in your drawer
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next to your phone? Am I gonna send you that? Yeah, so we're
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fasting this week? So I was I was very productive. Like, oh,
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what? Fasting? Family? For Jesus? Of course.
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John C Dvorak: What when was that in the Bible? I don't know
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anything. But yes,
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Adam Curry: a year or not? It doesn't have to be this day of
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the year. Yes. Jesus fasted for 40 days. What are you talking
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about?
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John C Dvorak: Are you going to fast for 40 days? I
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Adam Curry: don't think so. I'm not Jesus. No, no, be sure this
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week it ends on Friday. Anyway, so I was very starving
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John C Dvorak: yourself. Are you just eating at night?
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Adam Curry: Sleepwalking, so I'm sleepwalking. Exactly. And so
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about there was really a lot of energy. I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna
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set this up. So I'm up and running. And I already got one
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ITM yesterday. I was very excited.
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John C Dvorak: What are you laughing about one? Well, that's
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before
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Adam Curry: I announced it on the show. You know, you want
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sweatshirts and hoodies. I want to. I want ham radio icon next.
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I'm sorry.
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John C Dvorak: You want 100 ATMs?
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Adam Curry: God, that'd be nice.
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John C Dvorak: All I want is one sweatshirt. I asked for a lot
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less than you. Hey,
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Adam Curry: let's just get straight to the big news. This
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is the news everybody's talking about. It's crazy. It's off the
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hook. We just talked about this happening. And here it is. The
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moment
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Unknown: you've been waiting for is finally here. Don Lemon is
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back. With a new show. Mr. flippin posted a note to x
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sharing the new Don Lemon show will be airing on Twitter soon.
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The former CNN anchor wrote that x is the largest free speech
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platform in the world. And that space for honest debate is
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needed without the hall monitors.
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Adam Curry: I'm going to I'm going to predict something right
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now. This is going to be a good show. I think Don Lemon is going
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to surprise people. Okay. Oh, you have no predicted
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John C Dvorak: I know it won't be a good show. surprise
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anybody.
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Adam Curry: That'd be a great show. Absolutely. No, I think
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he's gonna surprise us at all. Do you watch If you watch
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John C Dvorak: this gonna make Chris Cuomo jealous.
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Adam Curry: I don't know about that because I don't see how Don
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Lemon is going to make any money being on x. And if he goes all
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sponsored, we're all you know
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John C Dvorak: ILAs writing a check and handing it tight
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Somehow
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Adam Curry: I don't think he's doing that. I don't think he's
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writing any check to talker. Any of those guys? Why would he not
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have to do that?
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John C Dvorak: When the milk is free, and
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Adam Curry: I don't know if you've noticed this, but Twitter
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seems to be having bandwidth issues or something. Like for
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the past two or three days I click on a video or just get a
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circle spinning around nothing you have to wait on something
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going on with it.
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John C Dvorak: You should it's probably because somebody from
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that Prime Video operation came over. I can barely get a video
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off of prime now something went wrong between
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Adam Curry: Amazon Prime Yeah. Oh, really? So you're through
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your what your Roku or how you're accessing
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John C Dvorak: it? No, I'm accessing it through the app
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that still specifically books to the to your to my LG TV. And
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it's got all the apps on there. I got Netflix I got everything
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and you click Netflix boots right up. Amazon Prime hardly
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ever boots. I'd like to people to start documenting this is
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Adam Curry: so you have a smart TV. Yeah. Don't sit in front of
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it in your underwear.
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John C Dvorak: It doesn't have any cameras.
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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, that's what you think by I wouldn't. Exactly
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what I wouldn't trust that for a moment.
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John C Dvorak: I'm not just watching TV in my underwear
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anyway. If it was in a bedroom, I might be just how you podcast.
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In it when I'm podcasting. I'm Yes, I'm only wearing
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Adam Curry: shorts. There it is. All right, let's get to the real
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biggest news of the week. I mean, this is the real ones
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researchers
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Unknown: have confirmed as if we didn't know we need 23 was the
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hottest year on record the European Union's Copernicus
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climate change service. Global temperatures records going back
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to the year 1850. warned that this year, could very well be
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even hot. It's gonna
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Adam Curry: top it. It's gonna top it. This is such a scam.
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They Oh, it's going back to 1850. Well, if you
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John C Dvorak: look at last was it last year when they went
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back? 10,000 or 250,000 years? Yeah,
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Adam Curry: they decided not to do that because that was not
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verifiable. But if you look at 1850 That's just around when the
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Little Ice Age ended. Back in the nine hundreds it was the
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temperature was higher than it is now. This is such a scam. I'm
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so tired of this. And then what's
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John C Dvorak: interesting insofar as being a scam is Nikki
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Haley is on board
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Adam Curry: with climate change. Yeah. And she's
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John C Dvorak: decided oh brother cheese decided that
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because of the demographics that the younger generation is all in
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on climate change. And so she's gonna start promoting the idea
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to pick up those voters instead of doing what a what a leader
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would do, which is trying to educate people as to what what
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aspects of this are just totally scam ish. Oh, guess?
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Adam Curry: Ah
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John C Dvorak: yes, a big everyone's it's a Buzz. Buzz
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about Nikki's new strategy.
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Adam Curry: Oh, really? Well, yeah. All the buzz I got is, is
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chris Christie dropping out of the race and then the Hot Mic
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Hot Mic incident
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John C Dvorak: hot mic. The phony Hot Mic incident. Oh, you
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Adam Curry: think it's phony? That's interesting. No, totally
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Unknown: homeless tonight, Chris Christie announcing the end of
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his long shot presidential bid just five days before the first
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contest of the Republican primary. It's clear to
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me tonight that there isn't a path for me to win the
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nomination. Which is why I'm suspending my campaign tonight.
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Go for President United States.
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The most vocal Trump critic in the GOP field, the former New
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Jersey governor had focused his campaign on New Hampshire but
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struggled to gain traction. I
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am going to make sure that in no way to I enable Donald Trump to
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ever be President of the United States again. And that's more
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important than my own personal ambition.
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And while Christie made no endorsement tonight, he already
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faces pressure to back Nikki Haley whom he has publicly
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defended in the past, but has repeatedly criticized in recent
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days, including for not taking on Trump more directly when you
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ask her the tough questions. Well, good Mike. She doesn't
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answer. Christie
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appearing to criticize her on a hot mic, or his event began
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tonight.
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And she's gonna get smoked and you and I both know what she
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thought on social
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media Trump calling that a quote, very truthful statement.
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Christy's exit could give Haley up boost in New Hampshire, where
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polls show her closing the gap with Trump. And where a recent
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poll shows roughly half of Christie supporters listing
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Haley as their second choice. So
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Adam Curry: this whole Hot Mic thing is not quite as
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interesting. I mean, if you want to hear it, I have the whole
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thing, but
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John C Dvorak: it's just that part you played is the best part
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that yeah, that's the best part. But
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Adam Curry: what I thought was interesting is, you know,
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because the general consensus is that Nikki Haley is being funded
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by big Democrat donors, anything or anything, anything to get rid
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of Trump because Nikki can do it. And the way NBC categorized
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as hot mic was weird,
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Unknown: but just moments before chris Christie started giving
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this speech, there was a hot mic moment. We talked about it a
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little bit ago in the show in which he was apparently talking
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presumably about Nikki Haley, apparently presumably saying
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suggesting things suggested and presumably her
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Adam Curry: again, presumably or we're not sure we're not sure if
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it was about her, we really don't know because, you know, he
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said she but it could be it could be big, the big
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Unknown: O in the show in which she was apparently talking
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presumably about Nikki Haley, saying suggesting that again,
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presumably her couldn't get smokes, let me play a little bit
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of that hot mic moment now, people
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spent 16 million so far 59 million provides a Santas, and
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we spent 12. And it comes punching above their weight and
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who's getting a return on their investment, you know, and she's
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gonna get smokes, and you and I both know what she's up to. 20
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points behind Trump. And he's gonna always I talked to stances
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called petrified, like getting out, FYI.
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Okay, there's a lot to unpack on that one. John Allen is chris
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Christie, of course, is still speaking on stage, we're going
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to listen to see if he does in fact, make an endorsement. But
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there's two pieces to this one. And we got to be careful here. I
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mean, hear from presume he's talking about Nikki Haley, based
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on that conversation. There's only you know, one person who's
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talking points a woman who's 20 points behind.
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Adam Curry: I mean, it's almost over. But this is crazy.
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John C Dvorak: Presumably, he cites the exact amount of money
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she's collected. Who else who else collected $65 million? As
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he pointed out, I mean, besides her,
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Adam Curry: NBC has no problem talking about sources say when
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it comes to Trump or things like that, but here it is playing on
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its face. And she's all like, well, you know, presumably,
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we're not sure it could be. We have to be very careful. You can
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Unknown: presume he's talking about Nikki Haley. Based on that
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conversation. There's only you know, one person who's 20
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points, one woman who's 20 points behind Donald Trump in
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New Hampshire, again, presumably Nikki Haley, saying she's gonna
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get smoked, you will already seeing other campaigns pick up
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on this, including, by the way Donald Trump himself who as in
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the course of our conversation here in the last four minutes,
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said I hear Chris Christie is dropping out of the race to say
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said he was just caught on a hot mic saying she's gonna get
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smoked, calling that a very truthful statement here, John, I
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mean, this is already creating like a whole political saying
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now
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Adam Curry: the way she kept saying is, presumably, maybe
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we're not sure couldn't be a week could it be tells me that
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something's up.
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John C Dvorak: But what well, did
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Adam Curry: they they're disappointed they wanted Nikki
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Haley to win. And now she's gonna get smoked. Smoked, I tell
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you smoke.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I think the again, I think this hot mic was
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a fake. He really was hot. And he's gonna say so. And what his
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complaint what he was complaining about, Christie.
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Besides the fact that we all know they, for some reason,
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because Trump didn't give him a position. He was looking for
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something. He's pissed and he's trying to get revenge in is the
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fact that he says in that in that little commentary in the
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hot mic. He says that she picked up $65 million in donations
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largely from Silicon Valley and
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Adam Curry: spent it on television that's what he was
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saying spent all that money.
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John C Dvorak: What he's got, but the numbers there he and
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he's had 12 million. He's what he's trying to I think convey is
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that Hey, where's my money?
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Adam Curry: If you'd only give me money? I would have I would
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have been that would have been Nikki? Yeah, maybe. Isn't he
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endorsing or now though?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know that he is. I believe so. He will did
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he's a hypocrite he calm dog chris Christie hypocrite anyway,
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Adam Curry: that that part of it doesn't matter. I mean, of
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course, the funniest thing was that I'd haven't looked at the
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the ratings if they're even you can't even get ratings anymore.
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Oh, no, we can't do overnight ratings because you know, that
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would disappoint everybody. I'll be waiting for the rating. So
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Trump did at Fox News Town Hall, which I did not see but
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supposedly pretty good. He was entertaining from what I
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understand. Even the Young Turks people were saying he was funny.
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Which is odd for them. is weird. Very weird for them to say that.
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Here's, here's why. In small clip about his so called Revenge
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retribution on day one or day one, a lot of
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Unknown: time talking about retribution. And so there are
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questions about how much a second term of a Donald Trump
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presidency second term would be about retribution and looking
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backwards and grievances and how much we'd be looking forward.
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Well,
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first of all, a lot of people would say that that's not so bad
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liquid they did Russia, Russia, Russia hubs, the FBI, Twitter
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hoax, the 51 intelligence agents hoax, all of these different
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hoaxes that they did. I mean, you know, a lot of people would
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say, that's probably quite normal. I'm not gonna have time
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for retribution. We're gonna make this country so successful
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again, I'm not gonna have time for retribution.
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Adam Curry: He sounds young. Do you hear that in his way? Sounds
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younger. Someone's calling on. It could be the EQ sounds
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bizarre males little sped up. Just sounded younger. Yeah. Sue,
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you got anything from from these fabulous events?
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John C Dvorak: I was, you know, I would get I'm like, you know,
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we get a jaded thing. I didn't watch either one of them either.
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I do have, I might have a Christie thing. My version of
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Christie is chris Christie weirdness from NTDs. Basically,
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your report was it was something weird given
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Unknown: to you as well to have just moments ago, former New
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Jersey Governor Chris Christie announced that he's dropping out
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of the 2024 presidential race. And this comes just five days
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before the first caucus in the nation right here in Iowa. We
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will have Chris Christie, who's a vocal Trump critic, even in
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announcing the suspension of his campaign promise to keep Trump
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out of office ever again. Meanwhile, he actually might
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have helped boost Trump's chances just now by getting
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caught on hot mic, saying that Nikki Haley will get smoked, but
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because
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I want to promise you this. I am going to make sure that in no
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way to I enable Donald Trump to ever be President of the United
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States again, like she's gonna get smoked. And you and I both
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know what she's up to.
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Adam Curry: Wow, that's weird. So they say this is the hot mic
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button and they play a bit from from from they
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John C Dvorak: did they clipped in? That's weird. Yeah, it was
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very different.
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Adam Curry: But well, since we're doing foreign foreigners,
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I remember Ian Bremmer. Just back from it. Wasn't he from
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Iraq, but he was, he was brave wasn't Bremmer, the guy handing
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out the big stacks of money to everybody? Maybe Yeah, he
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John C Dvorak: may have evolved. Yeah. Or the second Iraq war is
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handing
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Adam Curry: out money so now he's a big week over there at
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the Eurasia group, which is just another Think Tank that'll be a
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write up any papers you want for money. And they created the list
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of the biggest risks of 2024 the biggest risks to good find now
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do you think climate change is the top
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John C Dvorak: Oh, it has to be it's the it's the number one
18:08
threat to the world for all it's a what do you call it threat?
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You know, it's gonna kill everyone. existential threat
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existential is the word I'm looking for?
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Adam Curry: Well, no, we
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Unknown: begin the day going down the list of the biggest
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global risks of 2020. For every January we take stock of what
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threatened the world as we know it last year, and what could do
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the same in the new year and this January, it's no different
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for 2020 for some of the global risks are all too familiar some
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to be expected. That's according to the Eurasia group. And its
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annual global risk report for joining me now is Ian Bremmer,
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President, founder of Eurasia group and G zero media. talk
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first about the US presidential election being Risk Number one,
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you are not alone here. In putting it at the top of the
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list. I'd like to get your reaction to what the
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constitutional law professor told me last night on this
18:58
program. When I asked about a possible Trump victory comment
19:02
November, this
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Adam Curry: is great. So before he gets into it, they're going
19:06
to lead in with this constitutional law professor.
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I'm not sure who she is. She's a dei hire. And, and she has her
19:16
book behind her on the shot. This is this is just a
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phenomenal piece of orange MAN, bad dimension. Be nuttiness,
19:25
take a listen. Donald
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Unknown: Trump becomes president again. He's already decided he's
19:29
going to wreak vengeance on anyone who opposes him,
19:32
especially the so called enemies he already has in the government
19:36
and anybody who didn't vote for him before. But he's also going
19:39
to join with other strong men dictators around the country, I
19:44
mean, around the world and create havoc around the globe
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will not just rest within the borders of the United States.
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There will be I would say, perhaps World War Three if he He
20:00
is allowed to join with other dictators and put in place the
20:04
nationalist themes that he's already advocated in the United
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States. Now
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Adam Curry: what? What constitutional law was discussed
20:11
in that clip? This is just one crazy lady's opinion. But it
20:17
kind of lines up with Eurasia group.
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Unknown: What do you what do you say to that? I mean, if we're
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talking about a risk that is so acute so severe that we could be
20:25
looking at another world war. Let me back
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John C Dvorak: up stopped. So you just came from Deutsche
20:33
Avella? No, no, France? 24. Oh, really? Because it sounds like
20:37
one of the Deutsche Valley guys.
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Adam Curry: Let me double check you Sure? No, let me double
20:41
check. I'm pretty sure it was. Where is it?
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John C Dvorak: Because it makes more sense coming for me. Oh,
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no, no, it's
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Adam Curry: France. 24. I wrote it down France. 24. Okay, so
20:54
John C Dvorak: this that I did I know who Okay, here's the other
20:57
guy. It's interesting, because it would seem more like it came
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from a propaganda outlet
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Adam Curry: out France. 24 is not a propaganda outlet.
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John C Dvorak: Well, no, but they're not a CIA control, like
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not yet. But they gotta maybe they are already they got
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revenue, they got Bremmer
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Adam Curry: in the house.
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Unknown: Let me walk back from the brink a little bit. The
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United States democracy is in crisis. If you write our report,
21:27
we look at American trust in institutions, from Congress and
21:33
the executive to the media and the judiciary, to the church,
21:37
and they have all been going down, down down, nothing is
21:40
stopping that. They the US is the one democracy in the g7 that
21:46
does not have the committed ability to have a free and fair
21:50
transfer of power in a legitimate national election.
21:54
That is a serious issue that we should not normalize. And in the
21:59
next few months, Donald Trump, who had tried to overturn the
22:05
outcome of the 2020 election, is enormously likely to become the
22:11
nominee of the Republican Party. And when he does, the
22:14
Republicans will be loyal to him. And he will
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Adam Curry: become more shows from January 6 footage in the
22:19
background to more
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Unknown: powerful overnight, which means his policies, his
22:23
policies, not just domestically, but also internationally, his
22:26
willingness to go after Biden is willingness to cut off the
22:30
Ukrainians his willingness to go after the Iranians trade
22:34
decoupling with the Chinese, those will become policies that
22:37
the Republicans as a party will pursue. And so this is not just
22:42
about the coin flip of where we end up come this November, but
22:46
it's also about the entire year where we're going to be in a
22:50
much more divided much more problematic policy environment
22:53
for the US and for its allies around the world and people are
22:55
Adam Curry: expected. Yes See? Things horrible things, which
22:59
sounds good to me.
23:03
John C Dvorak: What was this list? He did? They didn't even
23:05
mean was that number one, and they just stopped. Where's the
23:08
top 10 Touch now?
23:10
Adam Curry: It's climate change was number four. The whole list
23:13
of lists was dumb. That's dumb. Who cares? Number one is all
23:18
they want to talk about. World war three. Yes. At Trump World
23:22
war three, he's gonna He's gonna get together with other leaders
23:25
around the world and wreak havoc. Okay, okay. Because
23:30
that's all they can think of. Let's make world war three.
23:33
Yeah. Great idea, guys. By the way, our constitutional lawyer
23:37
Jeff Raab, sent in some opinions from law 360. About the you
23:46
know, Trump and the 14th Amendment section three,
23:51
because, you know, he took that to the Supreme Court. And man, I
23:55
mean, the title of this article is weary justices have many off
23:59
ramps in Trump ballot dispute. Here's some of the opinions just
24:02
so you know. See Covington and Burlington LLP says Special
24:09
Counsel Matt Chapin Anka that they would take the case comes
24:14
as no surprise how they choose to decide it will be. The court
24:19
granted Trump's broad question of where the Colorado Supreme
24:21
Court eard in his decision, as opposed to specific questions
24:25
about Section threes, applicability and enforcement
24:29
posed by brand to the state's political party, giving justice
24:31
at least eight ways to overrule the state court's ruling. This
24:35
is a shoo in. Supreme Court is free to decide Trump's case in a
24:41
myriad of ways. This is going to be in his favor, no doubt about
24:45
it.
24:46
John C Dvorak: But it has to be because of his not in his favor.
24:48
The first thing that's going to happen is Biden's going to be
24:51
kicked off the Florida ballot. swing states that Colorado
24:56
Adam Curry: exact and this is it's like the season of reveal.
24:59
Now we've Find out that was a Fannie Willis, the Georgia
25:03
District Attorney.
25:04
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, she's she's stupid her the guy she
25:08
hired to prosecute Trump
25:09
Adam Curry: who's who sent the White House invoices. How stupid
25:14
are these people?
25:16
John C Dvorak: I have a clip on that.
25:18
Adam Curry: I don't have a clip I was looking for. But most of
25:20
it was just, you know, Twitter outrage, like,
25:25
John C Dvorak: what I do is this funny story. Oh,
25:27
Adam Curry: yeah. Well, and also now she's been subpoenaed in
25:30
that guy's divorce case.
25:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because the divorce. Yeah. Yes.
25:37
Adam Curry: homewrecker. And have I didn't get a clip, Nancy
25:40
Pelosi now claiming that she begged for the National Guard
25:43
troops on January 6, which of course is emphatically not true.
25:48
She's the one that lied. Yes, she stopped it. I'm telling you
25:52
this. This is the season of reveal all shall be revealed.
25:57
And a lot of people will pay attention. Not Not. Not all, but
26:02
many will know I think our show will. Yeah. I mean, even. I
26:07
mean, it's crazy how things just keep circling back and people's
26:12
heads are all filled with weirdness particularly Democrats
26:16
in in Congress. You saw Jaya Paul, member of the squad,
26:22
trying to discredit Trump. During this special session, she
26:28
did one we're
26:29
Unknown: going to talk about outrageous things that have
26:31
happened or things that have never happened. Let's talk about
26:35
the fact that President Trump incited an erection and
26:43
Adam Curry: you can talk about that too. Which of course gives
26:45
me the moment to play our mini cut of all Democrats thinking
26:49
about erections
26:51
Unknown: into inciting an erection. They feel the
26:53
President has incited an erection for inciting the
26:56
erection
26:56
incited the erection. So I'm just inside an erection inside
27:00
an erection on the Capitol
27:02
reciting that deadly erection. From President Trump incited in
27:06
aren
27:07
t he worked to incite an erection is no comparison
27:11
to inciting an erection into
27:13
inciting an erection for inciting the erection, incited
27:16
the erection
27:17
it was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it
27:19
aroused, but we got it. All
27:21
Adam Curry: right, there you go. What are people thinking when
27:25
they make a mistake like that?
27:27
John C Dvorak: Well, you think they're thinking I guess.
27:31
Where's the hard on for Trump? Oh,
27:33
Adam Curry: there you go. Very good. Excellent. Well, okay, so
27:41
we might as well get all of the US news out of the way.
27:49
John C Dvorak: Let's skip to one thing that you kind of touched
27:52
on it, which have we seen Lloyd Austin yet?
27:56
Adam Curry: No, we still haven't. We've only seen a
28:01
statement that he said, Oh, I'm sorry. I got I have to repent. I
28:05
gotta think about this. Yeah, well,
28:08
John C Dvorak: then there's a rumor. It's more than a rumor in
28:10
circles. Yes. Killed in Ukraine.
28:15
Adam Curry: This, this comes from raw news, which said they
28:18
go out
28:19
John C Dvorak: from Russia. No, rah, rah news is a weird
28:22
operation because it's really kind of Babylon beam meets Real
28:26
News. Yeah, yeah. So it's kind of so you don't know what's true
28:31
and what's not true in there. And that report is like too many
28:34
weird details. But I got something which is a which is a
28:37
podcaster does military history or something some and he's
28:41
Russia. I think he's a Russian plant, too. But he has kind of
28:47
tries to explain some things. And he brings in some new terms,
28:50
which call, which is called Making a legend. Which means
28:55
when you are illegally in some area and you get killed your
29:00
people make a legend as to how you died. Oh, I never heard this
29:05
term. That's a good I haven't heard it either. But let's play
29:07
the Lloyd Austin clips from this guy is he got a deep kind of a
29:10
kind of a Eastern European accent. You have to kind of get
29:13
a good hearing. All right,
29:14
Unknown: NATO says that there is no need to officers, Russians,
29:17
the Russians are saying that. Almost every month they managed
29:22
to get this or that one. And important thing is not about the
29:26
situation. We don't know who's lying who's telling the truth.
29:29
The most important is if somehow another NATO officer enter
29:34
Ukraine and he was hit by the Russian missile what happens
29:37
next? You might find very interesting that if this officer
29:42
is located in Ukraine or anyone else unofficially, and if
29:46
somehow he managed these are that's Russian missile or
29:50
anyone's missile I've managed to get him. There is a special
29:53
group that start creating legend. Start creating a legend
29:57
and for example, if these are that night officers died, then
30:02
we can might may find another car accident. Or let's say we
30:06
may find another heart attack. Or we might find another, let's
30:12
say, accident somewhere on the holidays as a result of this
30:15
accident this or that officer died or something like this. So
30:19
anyway, the legend should be, you need to explain why these
30:23
are that General of Nate's army died in this or that
30:26
circumstances. And so this is the situation. And now we're
30:30
moving back to Lloyd oyston, because according to information
30:33
we have he disappeared from TVs on the second of January. The
30:37
second of January, I'll remind you is the day when the Russians
30:40
ended their massive missiles strikes over the entire Ukraine,
30:43
including Kinzel is come there, many other different types of
30:47
missiles, like of how serious and so on. And furthermore, as a
30:52
reminder that the Russians, according to their report,
30:54
during those days managed to get another base. And at least as I
30:59
remember, one deputy of General Staff of Ukraine was died as a
31:04
result of another strike. And few let's see bases with
31:07
officers need to officers also were destroyed.
31:12
Adam Curry: Ha, do you know the name of this podcast? I want to
31:15
subscribe to it.
31:16
John C Dvorak: It's a military something I posted on no agenda
31:19
social that entire his entire Spiel goes on for about an hour
31:23
video or is it only on his video? He's on he's got
31:29
Adam Curry: that Tom Brady? Isn't on Bridey on?
31:32
John C Dvorak: I got it off YouTube? Oh, it's under it's on
31:36
the real deal.
31:37
Adam Curry: I can't I can't I can't believe that they haven't
31:39
taken that down yet. This is horrible. This speculation.
31:43
John C Dvorak: Well, they're sitting there anyway, you know,
31:45
agenda social has a has a copy. So here we go into the second
31:49
part of this. So
31:51
Unknown: very likely, I'm not saying that this is like
31:53
complete truth that we got this information somewhere from
31:56
reliable sources, or the Washington Post wrote about
31:59
this. No, we don't have this. But everything is like a theory
32:04
that very likely that Lloyd OYSTEIN. During the new let's
32:08
say, a New Year holidays, visited Ukraine. And it was an
32:12
official visit. Maybe they wanted to discuss something
32:15
resiliency without some official documents. And as a result of
32:19
Russian missiles strike as the revenge for Belgrade bombings.
32:23
When the planes were bombing building, it was class two
32:25
rounds, Lloyd Austin may be wounded and he was transferred
32:29
of course to United States of America maybe he's a very poor
32:32
condition because of his house and this is the reason why he
32:36
was already dismissed by the Congress and very likely that
32:41
he's going to have a lot of problems and very likely we're
32:43
not going to see Lloyd Austin anymore. Once again, I hope that
32:47
this all these talks I just provided is just wishful
32:50
thinking or it's just a theory from the others Yeah, we should
32:54
all listen to recover as soon as possible
32:57
Adam Curry: All right, so the thinking here would be well we
33:01
have to make legend out of him because we can't to actually
33:06
well first of all who says he was killed by the Russians? I
33:09
mean they've got guys popping off hang grenades all day long
33:12
over there on their own guys remember that all the all these
33:17
these top brass military guys like oh, here's a hand grenade
33:20
in your cake
33:22
John C Dvorak: were there yes I'm sure that's going on too bad
33:24
my understanding from reading the various things a lot of BS
33:30
no doubt about you can't find anything on RT so that's kind of
33:33
makes you wonder But the Russians are always on the
33:37
lookout for these NATO guys coming in to advise advise the
33:43
Ukrainians and then they they assassinate them left and right
33:46
if they can by just pummeling wherever they are whatever
33:50
meeting and I guess they summoned got stuck to see Lloyd
33:54
Austin comes through with some be a good one. Let's see how
33:57
they explain this.
34:00
Adam Curry: I'm laughing but of course it's tragic but so why
34:03
wouldn't they do anything
34:05
John C Dvorak: in this is all why must follow the logical has
34:09
not cropped up well, let's
34:10
Adam Curry: follow the logic for a minute though. So he's killed
34:15
over there. Why would they just say oh man he got killed let's
34:18
go let's go bomb Russia bomb Moscow. Clearly there nobody
34:24
wants that was just shows that this is not at all about Russia.
34:28
And really well, there
34:30
John C Dvorak: was no okay. There's no pre. There was no
34:33
announcement of him going there was it's like a top secret
34:35
mission. Why was he there? Why was he meeting? Why is our
34:41
Secretary of Defense hanging out and you're cramming this is like
34:45
Brammer when he was in Ukraine hanging out at me.
34:50
Adam Curry: I mean, why is Sean pan over there? I mean,
34:52
everyone's over there. Everyone's in on this scam. You
34:57
know, I have two clips here that that that May kind of show that
35:00
we're getting really towards the end. And I don't know what
35:03
they're going to do with Lloyd Austin actually want to play
35:05
this. Kirby, who is who was in the Pentagon who should know,
35:11
much better as what's going on. Ducey was grilling him. And
35:15
Kirby really kind of had a mini meltdown. He couldn't handle the
35:18
questions.
35:19
Unknown: I think it's up to you and your colleagues. And it's up
35:22
to the American people to determine, you know, how much
35:24
they're going to ascribe what happened here to our credibility
35:28
and every single issue. But in in every way. Secretary Austin
35:32
has been an exceptional defense secretary and he still has the
35:35
full faith and confidence of the Commander in Chief,
35:37
Adam Curry: why didn't he say is, is an outstanding Secretary
35:43
defense. Why did he Why say has been? I mean, if I, if I were
35:48
Lloyd Austin, I'm still alive, I'd be pissed about this. But
35:51
Unknown: in in every way. Secretary Austin has been an
35:54
exceptional defense secretary and he still has the full faith
35:57
and confidence of the Commander in Chief, he has led the
36:01
department at an incredibly dangerous time for our national
36:05
security
36:06
John C Dvorak: is leading has led Yes, yes. As opposed to is
36:10
leading all of this, the
36:11
Unknown: Commander in Chief, he has led the department at an
36:15
incredibly dangerous time for our national security interests
36:18
and those of our allies and partners. But
36:20
if the administration is gonna go to such great lengths to keep
36:22
secrets about the defense, secretaries of health, how can
36:26
anybody be certain that the administration would not go to
36:30
the same lengths to keep secret problems with President Biden?
36:33
So
36:35
if, if you could logically argue, and you can't, but if you
36:39
could logically argue that one years old, wait a second, just
36:44
give me a second here, Bob? I'll get there.
36:47
Adam Curry: Second here, Bob, what is that all about? That's
36:50
not very that's not right.
36:52
John C Dvorak: Very professional, Bob. Hey,
36:55
Adam Curry: Bob. I wouldn't even call you Bob. That's just not
36:58
cool. Dude
36:59
John C Dvorak: is bad enough, Bob,
37:03
Unknown: are you and you can't. But if you could, logically,
37:07
one years old. Wait
37:08
a second. Just give me a second here. But I'll get there. If if
37:14
the administration made some sort of Machiavellian effort
37:18
across the board to to keep this from getting public, then I
37:22
think your question has merit, and certainly is a fair one. I
37:26
don't think it's a fair one. Because that's not what happened
37:28
here. Peter, what happened here is the Secretary of Defense. For
37:32
whatever reason, I can't answer the question why? That
37:35
information wasn't shared wasn't shared widely in the department,
37:38
and it certainly wasn't shared again. It's not good. It's
37:42
certainly not good. We want to learn from this. We want to, we
37:45
want to make sure that it doesn't happen again. We want
37:47
Adam Curry: to learn from this we'll make sure it doesn't
37:49
happen again. But how many of these guys are going to get
37:51
killed? I might as well play the to the mainstream reports I have
37:55
and then get into what I really want to play. This is. Let's
37:58
see. We'll start with CBS Secretary
38:01
Unknown: Austin had surgery for prostate cancer more than two
38:04
weeks ago, but hid the diagnosis from his commander in chief.
38:09
Until today.
38:10
The President didn't know about the diagnosis until this
38:13
morning. Austin underwent
38:14
surgery on December 22nd. CBS News CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT
38:19
Dr. John will pook describes the operation which the Pentagon
38:22
called an elective medical procedure.
38:25
When you take out the entire prostate it is a major
38:28
operation. On New
38:29
Year's Day Austin began to suffer complication so
38:32
Adam Curry: don't think that's really if if you're taking
38:35
someone's whole prostate out that's not enough elective
38:37
surgery. That's like emergency cancer surgery, isn't it? Well,
38:41
John C Dvorak: they also that's interesting that they're CVS or
38:44
bring this in because my understanding was there was some
38:48
something lesser than that, that took place and they're not
38:52
really giving us good explanations. And then there's
38:54
the rumor again, we don't know this one way or the other, but
38:57
they're not covering it because they're the replay. Why would
39:00
we? Why would we is nobody at Walter Reed even saw the guy.
39:06
Adam Curry: I mean, he's a hard guy to miss.
39:08
John C Dvorak: It's hard to miss
39:10
Unknown: the hard guy to miss. On New Year's Day, Austin began
39:13
to suffer complications, including
39:16
nausea with severe abdominal, hip and leg pain. initial
39:21
evaluation revealed a urinary tract infection
39:23
Adam Curry: very rare for men. By the way, UTI
39:26
Unknown: This is an unusual complication. Usually these
39:29
surgeries, they are big operations, but people recover
39:32
very well. Generally without any kind of a complication like
39:35
this.
39:36
admitted to the ICU with a tube down his nose to drain his
39:39
stomach. Austin turned over his powers as Secretary of Defense
39:43
to his deputy, but waited three full days before telling the
39:47
White House he was in the hospital.
39:49
It is not optimal to for a situation like this to go as
39:55
long as it did without the commander in chief knowing about
39:59
it. That's not the way A this is supposed to happen. The
40:01
White House ordered all cabinet secretaries to immediately
40:04
report whenever they are not able to perform their duties.
40:08
And the Pentagon began a review of what took so long.
40:12
Adam Curry: NBC had one other detail about the assistant
40:17
secretary or the Yeah, the Deputy Secretary
40:21
John C Dvorak: contradicts what we've been hearing. Supposedly
40:24
she didn't know anything either. She was on vacation. Yeah, she
40:27
was on vacay. Night the mystery surrounding wouldn't if she if
40:31
this had been going on while she was on vacay. Wouldn't she fly
40:35
back immediately? You
40:36
Adam Curry: would. Thanks. Hey, if I was some second in command,
40:40
I'm like, hey, I can be the top dog.
40:42
John C Dvorak: I can take over. I'm
40:44
Adam Curry: coming back. You bet. Tonight
40:45
Unknown: the mystery surrounding Secretary of Defense Lloyd
40:48
Austin secret of hospitalization revealed he was being treated
40:52
for prostate cancer. His doctor say he was diagnosed in early
40:56
December, but defense officials say he hid the illness from top
40:59
Pentagon officials and even the president nobody
41:03
at the White House knew that Secretary Austin had prostate
41:07
cancer until this morning.
41:08
A statement from Walter Reed saying his surgical procedure on
41:12
December 22 was to treat and cure prostate cancer
41:15
Adam Curry: December 22. Now that changes the timeline a bit
41:23
All we know is about January now the procedure was on December
41:29
22.
41:30
Unknown: Prostate cancer this until this morning, a
41:32
statement from Walter Reed saying his surgical procedure on
41:35
December 22 was to treat and cure prostate cancer. They say
41:39
he was under general anesthesia but released the next morning,
41:43
but on Monday, January 1, Austin was rushed back to Walter Reed
41:46
via ambulance with severe pain, suffering from an infection and
41:51
fluid buildup that was impairing his small intestine. On Tuesday,
41:55
January 2, Austin was admitted to the intensive care unit and
41:59
transferred some authorities to his deputy Kathleen Hicks, while
42:03
she was on vacation in Puerto Rico. But Hicks and the White
42:06
House were not told he was in the ICU until Thursday, January
42:10
4, members of Congress senior Pentagon leaders and the public
42:14
were not informed until the night of Friday, January 5,
42:18
this guy shouldn't be in charge of our military now.
42:20
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm gonna continue calling for full
42:22
disclosure, I'm calling for a full hearing
42:26
Unknown: the Pentagon now reviewing who knew what, when
42:29
and why the White House wasn't told.
42:31
Clearly, we could have done better and we will do better.
42:35
Austin's
42:36
Chief of Staff now ordering that these officials be told when
42:40
Austin transfers authority to Hicks and why Austin remains
42:44
hospitalized tonight, having now spent all of 2024 in the
42:48
hospital doctors they're saying he's expected to make a full
42:52
recovery, but it can be a slow process.
42:55
Adam Curry: Here's what I'm missing. I'm missing Hicks. Why
42:58
isn't Hicks out there saying I know we're in two wars. It's all
43:02
good. I'm here. steady hand on the helm. It's all good. I wish
43:07
Secretary Boyd Austin all the best and his recovery.
43:12
Everything's good. I got you. That's what we're missing.
43:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and you know what they're doing right
43:18
now? Looking for a double
43:26
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Maybe the dad from Fresh Prince of Bel Air
43:31
is available.
43:32
John C Dvorak: You're going to have to find a tot to problem
43:34
with this guy. And they may be it's something to consider in
43:37
the future you Democrats tough to don't hire a guy that's tough
43:41
to double a job that is that big. Yeah. And that tall.
43:47
Adam Curry: But even then you would have Hicks come out and
43:49
say, Don't worry, everybody
43:52
John C Dvorak: was Hicks. I know I'm not arguing about what you
43:54
just said. We're getting a double I'm just saying what
43:56
they're more concerned about is finding a double or you haven't
43:59
come up with a reason for him to die. Well
44:02
Adam Curry: the reason is, first of all, our comes razor says
44:05
this happened and prostate cancer is of course horrible and
44:09
men die from it. Yeah, you know, this is not something that that
44:13
you know, unfortunately. So So I wish him no ill but despite the
44:21
mess ups they're just making it worse by not having the second
44:25
in command come out while we're at so called at war in Ukraine,
44:30
so called at war in the Middle East. We've got the red sea
44:33
situation, we've got everything popping off and we don't have
44:36
anybody saying Don't worry about nobody, not even standing. And
44:40
we got Kirby going off. Oh,
44:43
John C Dvorak: poor Kirby. You know, he may have been a good
44:46
friend with this guy and he's probably beside herself because
44:49
if the Russian story is true, and the guy's dead, was badly
44:53
injured or wounded and
44:55
Adam Curry: whatever then that we have house Democrat this
44:57
John C Dvorak: is this is obviously we Getting we're
45:00
getting fed bowl, media and nobody cares to look into it.
45:04
Adam Curry: So this the backdrop here is that the there's a
45:08
proposal now that has, I think, been negotiated between Mike
45:14
Johnson, Speaker of the House, Republican Mike Johnson, and the
45:18
White House for the spending bill, which includes over almost
45:24
$900 billion for the military, but lacks any specific budgets
45:32
for Ukraine, Israel, and the much discussed Well, we've got
45:37
to change the border. You know, that was supposed to be a Fed
45:42
accompli is like it unless you change the policy at the border.
45:46
We're not going to sign off in any money for for these two wars
45:51
that were not involved in financing paying for. And so the
45:57
first clip I have is chip Roy, from Texas, and he was on Glenn
46:02
Beck and he's passed about this
46:04
Unknown: greetings from West Des Moines, Iowa, where it's like a
46:06
balmy 20 degrees outside but the snowstorm coming in, but the
46:11
real snowstorm coming in is coming into DC that's going to
46:14
hammer the American people, Republicans doing exactly what
46:17
they always do, which is be the party of excuses. The party will
46:20
never find a way to not capitulate and spend more money
46:24
that we don't have and rack up more debt. So what are we doing
46:26
now under speaker Johnson right NEW SPEAKER more of the same
46:29
garbage we're going to have a bill is $1.66 trillion. That is
46:36
almost, that's about $58 billion more than the disastrous Nancy
46:42
Pelosi omnibus bill the Republicans opposed a year ago,
46:45
it is $100 billion dollars more than what we would get if
46:50
Republicans had the spine to walk onto the House floor and
46:53
send a simple year long continuing resolution over the
46:57
Senate that would trigger the cuts. All Adobe they meager in
47:01
the debt deal last summer, it would trigger cuts, that we
47:05
could get 1.56 2 trillion in spending. They won't do that.
47:10
Because they're all in the hip pocket of all the lobbyists,
47:12
they hide behind our military. And now we're not going to get
47:15
the border secure. We're going to spend $100 billion more than
47:18
we have to we're going to increase spending over the Nancy
47:20
Pelosi spending deals. And Republicans are going to go try
47:23
to sell you and the American people that somehow win. Don't
47:27
believe that. This is what the American people are tired of.
47:30
And I'm like, I'm gonna call balls and strikes. I call balls
47:32
and strikes on Kevin McCall balls and strikes on mic. And
47:36
speaker. People should call balls and strikes. I mean,
47:38
that's the way it works.
47:39
Adam Curry: Tough Guy tough guy, Chip. Gas guy. Drake's balls and
47:45
strikes. I'm calling balls and strikes. But it appears that
47:50
there's a gambit afoot. And this is one that I predicted. And I
47:54
think it may be happening because the information now
47:56
comes from Washington Post reporter, Josh Rogen, WaPo, WaPo
48:01
WaPo.
48:02
John C Dvorak: And Asha Rogen.
48:04
Adam Curry: Yes, the actor No, r o g i n Rogan. He's from WaPo.
48:11
And he was on the John bachelor show. And he brought up some
48:16
strategy which makes total sense. In light of Bill, both
48:23
the unit party in Washington DC does not actually want to fix
48:26
the border. We know this. Does that mean? This is why it hasn't
48:31
happened. They want it they need it. The bankers want it. We need
48:34
people coming in. We need it for a whole bunch of reasons, but
48:37
mainly to be able to print more money because there's people
48:39
here who need money, and then we print money for everybody. We
48:41
need liquidity. Open the borders. So what are we doing
48:45
with with Ukraine? Remember that $300 billion of Russian money
48:50
Unknown: presuming that this goes to at the g7 meeting in
48:53
February, it has to mean that they're working on a
48:56
presentation now. Is any of it to be used for armaments for
49:00
what they need now to get through the winter? Or is it all
49:03
going to be designated for rebuilding, right? That's
49:05
a key distinction. This would only be used for mid to long
49:09
term rebuilding and reconstruction, it would not be
49:11
used to fund the war effort. And so it does not replace the need
49:15
for Congress to also pass billions of dollars in
49:18
additional new military, economic and humanitarian
49:21
assistance for Ukraine just to get through this year. What it
49:24
can do is it can provide a political cover for Republicans
49:27
who are scared of backlash from the GOP base, and also give
49:31
Americans a reassurance that there's an end to this
49:33
commitment that when it comes time to rebuild Ukraine,
49:36
there'll be a pot of money that will be sitting there now how
49:39
that gets done, they'll have to be a mechanism that will have to
49:42
be some sort of organization to distribute it and make sure it
49:44
doesn't all go into corrupt coffers and all of that that's a
49:48
multi year effort all by itself. So this is a very complicated
49:53
set of policies that never really existed before. But first
49:56
you have to have the political will to do it. And that's been
49:59
the problems that the fight ministration didn't want to do
50:01
it. They thought they know that Europeans didn't want to do it.
50:04
But now they really have little choice. Because if this is the
50:08
way to get the Republic, some Republicans, at least those who
50:11
want to support Ukraine, but are scared of political backlash to
50:14
vote for the Ukrainians, and that's really the most important
50:18
thing right now. So it was always a good idea, in my view,
50:21
and now it's a politically expedient one as well.
50:24
Adam Curry: So this will be decided in February at the g7.
50:28
It's emitted it's at that level.
50:30
John C Dvorak: First of all, I don't know who is clipping the
50:32
John bachelor show for you. But that's pretty wild that someone
50:36
would be that dedicated. But it's Mike getting the straight
50:41
they're gonna steal the Russian money.
50:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, that you said would never happen.
50:45
John C Dvorak: I said it would never happen because it's just
50:47
it's, it's, it's opening Pandora's Box. Hello. If they
50:52
take then steal this money? Is not your money.
50:55
Adam Curry: Told? Hello? What do you think of it? Look, would you
50:59
rather that they steal it from you in taxes? Or inflation? Let
51:03
them steal it from the Russians. Everyone will be happy had damn
51:06
Russians.
51:08
John C Dvorak: You're gonna have to pay the Russians back for
51:09
this. It's not Oh, really be stealing anything.
51:12
Adam Curry: But that'll be for Trump to do when he wins. They
51:15
don't care at this point. They don't care. But I think it's
51:19
John C Dvorak: right. Yeah, continuation of the basic thesis
51:22
that I think that we somewhat agree on, which is they're going
51:26
to screw up as much as they can, knowing Trump's getting in no
51:30
matter what you do. Yeah. And put him in there. Let him fix
51:34
it.
51:34
Adam Curry: Yeah. Give it to him. We'll see in 2028. When
51:39
Nikki's a Democrat or whatever, or board Gavin Newsom or
51:43
whoever,
51:44
John C Dvorak: she's Democrat, or the Hello, whoever, whoever
51:47
is you see them fundraising in Silicon Valley. I sent you that
51:50
when I get these things.
51:52
Adam Curry: Yes, I say Draper Draper
51:56
John C Dvorak: is what he's one of the big
51:59
Adam Curry: Goodness gracious. I didn't get this really funny
52:01
clip that was on the acts of New York, Congresswoman Clark to
52:07
Democrat. And she, she she said, Hey, keep the border open. This
52:13
is good. It's good for me from
52:15
Unknown: Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that can absorb
52:19
a significant number of these migrants. And that, you know,
52:23
when I hear colleagues talk about, you know, the doors of
52:28
the NBN close, no room in the end, I am saying, you know, I
52:34
need more people in my district, but just for redistricting
52:36
purposes, and those members could could clearly fit here.
52:42
Wow,
52:43
Adam Curry: she just said it. Bring those bodies in. I can use
52:46
it for redistricting.
52:49
John C Dvorak: Have a clip about the school donate
52:52
Adam Curry: the in New York. Yeah. I don't know. These
52:58
John C Dvorak: are very poorly organized today. I've got like
53:00
two minutes wrong.
53:02
Adam Curry: What is what is going on yet? Something's wrong
53:04
with you. May
53:05
John C Dvorak: or can promise I started clipping too early in
53:08
the week. Oh, that's bad. But I know you have to clip at the
53:12
last minute otherwise you end up with a mess. By
53:14
Adam Curry: the way. Michelle Obama just speaking of Democrats
53:17
did this hour long interview. Yeah. Everyone saw it and
53:22
everybody's saying she's running. She's running. You were
53:25
right. Big mic. 2024. Big mic 2420 20 four.com. Everybody,
53:30
she's running she's running. And it was Daily Caller who had the
53:36
best headline and opening graph. Quote, Michelle Obama has a big
53:41
package for Democrats this election season. Oh, writer,
53:46
former First Lady Michelle Obama revealed her huge package on a
53:50
podcast Monday that could help Democrats hold on to the White
53:53
House in 2024 She's ready to fill up Democrats strategy
53:57
sessions with a new man with a new twist on the same old
54:01
tactics as she and her husband prepared to Double Team America
54:04
with more fear
54:08
John C Dvorak: I mean wrote that be shameful we're not even that
54:11
juvenile no we're not that is so bad is the clip is great New
54:15
York City moves immigrants to school age
54:18
Adam Curry: clipper gauge clipper wrote that
54:21
John C Dvorak: yeah, oh gage clipper Sure. Why. So buddy
54:28
named jig name Lipper. In itself has got says some sexual
54:34
innuendo. I
54:35
Adam Curry: love that. It's like, boy, you guys are really
54:38
going all out. Just go beyond anything that no agenda guys
54:42
would do. And that's crazy. But yeah, it's there was I don't
54:48
want to switch topics if you have other things. No, I
54:51
John C Dvorak: got the clip. It's great New York City school
54:53
thing. Great.
54:54
Unknown: Okay, let's do that students out and illegal
54:57
immigrants in New York City has decided to turn In a high school
55:00
into a temporary shelter for illegal immigrants, and the
55:04
decision is forcing students into remote learning entities.
55:07
Jason Perry reports from
55:09
the high school.
55:11
I'm here in front of James Madison High School in Brooklyn,
55:14
New York. And last night on Tuesday night, almost 2000
55:18
illegal immigrants stayed in this high school overnight. And
55:22
because of that the students who usually attend school here won't
55:26
be learning anything today on Wednesday, they'll be taking
55:29
their classes at home remotely. The reason these illegal
55:33
immigrants stayed the night here is because New York was facing a
55:36
severe weather alert of heavy rain potential flooding and
55:40
winds around 70 miles per hour. And given that they were staying
55:44
in tents, 2000 families with children moved to the high
55:48
school out of an overabundance of caution. The city had heavy
55:52
rains and high winds overnight on Tuesday, but it's been
55:56
clearing up on Wednesday. local elected officials are arguing
56:00
that this problem was foreseeable due to
56:02
vulnerabilities during severe weather, and that the location
56:06
and Floyd Bennett field was not a good place to set up an
56:09
immigrant shelter. And how are the parents feeling about the
56:12
move? The New York Post reported that at least one woman said to
56:17
be a local parent shouted at the illegal immigrants as they
56:20
arrived at this high school. Moreover, what about working
56:24
parents who want their children to have adult supervision while
56:27
they're at work? Many questions remain. Since mid 2022. Over
56:32
160,000 illegal immigrants have entered New York City, a so
56:37
called sanctuary city and many of them have been bused from
56:41
Texas, New York City Mayor Eric Adams said that increase could
56:45
destroy New York City.
56:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, New York City. That's like saying destroy
56:54
democracy. Right? This
56:57
John C Dvorak: is coming from Adams.
57:00
Adam Curry: It seems so obvious now, the way it unfolds. And
57:03
just presuming that, that, you know, politicians don't run they
57:07
just do whatever they're told. Everything goes to crap. Trump
57:12
becomes president and signs a whopper a whopper of a stimulus
57:18
and then refinances the whole country. With the perfect to
57:22
refi.
57:24
John C Dvorak: Bill, he's a refi guy.
57:26
Adam Curry: Yeah, I might go to, you know, to International
57:29
Criminal Court for overvaluing the United States but so there
57:37
was this, this other outrage, which also squarely fell in our
57:41
camp, which was the Taylor Swift, NATO op op. Did you catch
57:45
this?
57:47
John C Dvorak: I caught part of it, but I didn't really pay much
57:50
attention because I'm kind of sickened by the Taylor Swift op,
57:54
well, in the first place, so even
57:56
Adam Curry: Jesse waters, you know, like, oh, Taylor Swift,
57:59
you know, they would NATO would you'd want to use her as an
58:02
Optima and they play this very, very short clip, which to me is
58:07
always like, that stinks. I'm gonna go look at the full thing.
58:12
And it's actually if they had taken three seconds to evaluate
58:17
what's really going on this clip, it's much better. So the
58:21
idea here is is a presentation at the NATO let me see I have
58:28
the the 11th International Conference on cyber conflict,
58:33
also known as cyber cyber sigh con. organised by the NATO
58:40
Cooperative Cyber Defense Center of Excellence. So they have this
58:45
this young woman and she's presenting influence operations
58:50
I O influence operations and how you can use them and she talks
58:54
about utilizing famous people which da and they have a picture
59:02
and they have a picture of Taylor Swift now had these these
59:06
these while Jesse waters is is m five M but this was a lot of
59:11
this was and of course everyone tagging you you are right now
59:14
it's much worse than that. Yeah, much. The woman who's presenting
59:18
space Alicia Marie Barger or Barger. Now listen carefully.
59:24
She's a research engineer at Johns Hopkins. There we go. Even
59:31
more interesting. This clip is from 2019 August 2019. We are
59:39
now talking just a few months before the pandemic. Now it
59:47
becomes a little more interesting if you listened a
59:49
little bit before that short clip and a little bit after
59:52
here's the intro. Finally,
59:54
Unknown: you want to you came in here wanting to understand how
59:56
you just go out there and calculating that information.
1:00:00
Well,
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: he's got that same cadence, then the, you
1:00:04
know, the advertising, whatever you want to call it, the Lisa
1:00:08
Monaco. She's part of the milieu of these douchebags.
1:00:13
Adam Curry: Oh, it's much worse remember August 2019. Finally,
1:00:17
Johns Hopkins,
1:00:19
Unknown: you want to you came in here wanting to understand how
1:00:21
you just go out there and countering that inflammation
1:00:24
operation? Well, this is the you know, this is kind of the the
1:00:29
last step. The network interventions are actually
1:00:33
developed within the public health domain. And so these are
1:00:37
the ones I'm going to give you are going to provide examples
1:00:39
from health. So the idea is that social influence can help can
1:00:45
help encourage or promote behavior change. And the theory
1:00:52
here is essentially that this sort of approach works as well.
1:00:55
With regards to misinformation. It's important to recognize that
1:00:59
this could be you know, this is an ethically concerning thing to
1:01:02
go out there and to try to change hearts and minds. But
1:01:07
it's important to think about how would we actually do this in
1:01:10
a way that would work with people so potentially as like a
1:01:13
peaceful information operation?
1:01:15
Adam Curry: So she's talking about Information Operations,
1:01:17
she's talking about health. Well, that's interesting. Ben
1:01:21
from health, remember 2020 election year from health, she
1:01:25
goes to politics with Taylor Swift.
1:01:27
Unknown: So the first one, that's the most famous and the
1:01:30
most, most common, is working with famous people, or main
1:01:36
influencers to share information or particular message. So I
1:01:40
include Taylor Swift in here, because she's, you know, she's a
1:01:44
fairly influential online person. I don't know if you've
1:01:46
heard of her. But she's actually this is a cropped image, but
1:01:51
she's standing next to a you know, go vote sign. And actually
1:01:55
celebrities, at least in the US, regularly will post pictures of
1:02:00
themselves with an encouragement to people to go vote and this
1:02:02
has a measurable effect on voter turnout. Now, when it comes to
1:02:07
counting and IO, that particular message, one needs to consider
1:02:11
whether or not the opinion leader actually wants to share
1:02:14
that message, because it may or may not be popular, and they may
1:02:16
or may not know how to share it without accidentally increasing
1:02:20
more in misinformation. However, this is one that's relatively
1:02:24
accessible and understandable approach.
1:02:26
Adam Curry: Very successful, understandable because
1:02:29
information. Influence operations are normal fare,
1:02:35
normal fare of now she's talking about health in August of 2019.
1:02:41
She's talking about voting in 2019. And let's just bring it
1:02:45
home Johns Hopkins.
1:02:47
Unknown: Finally, alteration, changing individuals or
1:02:51
relationships within a network. This isn't necessarily as to
1:02:57
make it more clear think of vaccination. This is actually
1:03:00
education or teaching people particularly those and prominent
1:03:03
areas from which they could spread misinformation how to
1:03:06
recognize it and counter it themselves, can help can help
1:03:13
stop misinformation in its place? They
1:03:15
Adam Curry: were ready. They were ready for vaccination
1:03:19
hesitancy, they were ready for health issues. They are ready
1:03:22
for the election year. This is rife. And you know, I just use
1:03:30
Taylor Swift. You probably don't they probably can't afford
1:03:33
Taylor Swift. But this is they were ready for this. Isn't this
1:03:38
around the same time as event? 201?
1:03:42
John C Dvorak: A two a one is the this was 2019. Yeah.
1:03:47
Adam Curry: August 2019. was
1:03:49
John C Dvorak: about to say it's in it's within a six month I
1:03:51
think of 20 of the event, which was also at Johns Hopkins.
1:03:55
Adam Curry: August 23. Don't
1:03:57
John C Dvorak: forget don't forget
1:03:58
Adam Curry: August 25 2019. Was event 201.
1:04:02
John C Dvorak: And don't forget to map the map. Yeah, remember
1:04:06
the map the deaths map that Johns Hopkins released?
1:04:10
Adam Curry: And the numbers well, then the numbers every
1:04:11
John C Dvorak: day is all over the place? Yeah.
1:04:14
Adam Curry: Yeah. The death map. So Johns Hopkins is bad news.
1:04:21
John C Dvorak: Well, seems so that's where our the guy that
1:04:24
used to listen to our show for a long time, even though he hated
1:04:29
the fact that we were reporting Trump haters. Oh, yeah, he was
1:04:33
out of Johns Hopkins. Finally at the end, speaking of economic
1:04:37
hitmen influence
1:04:38
Adam Curry: operations, Norman Lear, influenza, numero uno.
1:04:44
Would you believe this? He got saved one year before his death
1:04:49
at 108 when he was 100.
1:04:53
John C Dvorak: Again, what did he say? Well,
1:04:56
Adam Curry: he, I mean, he got in under the wire. He won't go
1:04:59
to hell. You won't go to hell. You got saved? Yeah, we
1:05:03
John C Dvorak: don't know that. Yeah. I mean if he really you
1:05:06
don't know that you haven't visited hell Well, I mean it was
1:05:10
the last time you went to Austin that you go so I got some Brett
1:05:16
Weinstein stuff that
1:05:17
Adam Curry: I was hoping to stay away from that but you liked
1:05:22
John C Dvorak: I believe my my clips are well chose let me ask
1:05:25
you a question.
1:05:26
Adam Curry: Is that guy's forehead jacked with Botox or
1:05:29
what? I
1:05:30
John C Dvorak: don't know what to his problem is not moving.
1:05:33
I'm not a big fan. He is not I'm
1:05:36
Adam Curry: not either.
1:05:36
John C Dvorak: I mean, Eric I can tolerate a little more like
1:05:40
Heather.
1:05:44
Adam Curry: So Brett was on Tucker and Johnny brought
1:05:51
John C Dvorak: this references eluding me
1:05:52
Adam Curry: his wife, Brett Weinstein's
1:05:54
John C Dvorak: wife. Oh, yeah. pitches are in here, which I
1:05:57
don't think she was on here with him wish Oh,
1:05:59
Adam Curry: no buts. I like her on the potty. She's much more.
1:06:04
Yes. Why is your forehead number Peter Griffin
1:06:10
John C Dvorak: falls on the ground. Okay. This Bret
1:06:15
Weinstein on Tucker talking about the VAX. Now what irks me
1:06:18
I mean, I this analysis is great. But somehow, Brett throws
1:06:23
himself into the mix. Oh, he loves doing that. As though he
1:06:28
had something to do with anything. Oh, no, he he's
1:06:30
Adam Curry: the one that debunked COVID. He's deep. He
1:06:33
warned everybody for the VAX, he did not know he did. All in he
1:06:38
was pro Vax. I know, he is very I find
1:06:42
John C Dvorak: it. So I find these annoying these clips, but
1:06:44
I have them. Because I think he makes a couple of points. Maybe
1:06:48
you know, he's like maybe touching the truth here, here
1:06:51
and there. And it's worth listening to they're not that
1:06:53
long, he took the last one, which is sort of the second one
1:06:56
was kind of long.
1:06:57
Unknown: But here we go. Even if the thing had turned out to be
1:06:59
harmless, nobody could know that it was so it wasn't safe. And
1:07:02
for them to assure us that it was was alive from the get go.
1:07:05
That's what caused Heather and me to start looking into it. And
1:07:08
the deeper we dug, the crazier the story got not safe and
1:07:12
ineffective, in fact, harmful and shockingly ineffective at
1:07:16
everything that you might want it to be effective at. So the
1:07:20
story is a an odd one. The fact that that small number of
1:07:25
dissidents, was able to up end the narrative was able to bring
1:07:31
people's awareness to the massive levels of harmony and
1:07:34
effectiveness of the shots is in some ways, the most surprising
1:07:39
element of the story. And I think it truly surprised pharma
1:07:44
and its partners in social media and government and
1:07:49
nongovernmental organizations. I think they thought that they
1:07:53
owned enough of the media that they could sell us any narrative
1:07:57
that they wished. And I think surprising as it is, they didn't
1:08:01
really understand that podcasts could possibly be a
1:08:08
countervailing force of significance.
1:08:12
Adam Curry: Wow, welcome to 20 years later, Brett. Has he
1:08:20
repented anywhere? He's you said, hey, you know, I was
1:08:22
wrong. In the beginning. I was wrong. No, no, he's just
1:08:25
walking. Waltzing. Right. I mean, he will I would be okay.
1:08:28
If you said, you know, even I thought in the beginning, well,
1:08:30
vaccines, you know, this well, a
1:08:32
John C Dvorak: lot of get a lot of hot shots have done exactly
1:08:35
that. Yeah. And it's fine to do that he for some reason. He's
1:08:40
kind of like one of those guys who could never say he was
1:08:42
wrong. He would he's just one of those professorial type that
1:08:48
just can't say he was wrong. In fact, he goes just the opposite
1:08:51
and says, Well, you know, I was probably right all along. Yeah,
1:08:54
exactly. So go podcasting. So he goes on with a little more of a
1:09:01
elaborate Spiel here in this clip, podcasts
1:09:04
Unknown: could possibly be the best
1:09:07
Adam Curry: invention ever, a countervailing force
1:09:10
Unknown: of significance. If you own NBC News, that's enough. You
1:09:13
would say All righty, you know, it's it's it's failing to update
1:09:16
from the buying by the barrel. Totally aphorism. So what
1:09:21
happened?
1:09:22
John C Dvorak: Let's just stop, stop. Yeah, I
1:09:23
Adam Curry: have to Yeah, go ahead. I gotta say something
1:09:25
about you know
1:09:25
John C Dvorak: what the buying by the barrel aphorism is? I
1:09:28
have no idea what that is. Yeah, I figured the buying by the
1:09:33
barrel aphorism which I don't even know if Tucker knows what
1:09:36
it means. But it's an old saying that used to be. Don't be
1:09:40
talking about getting into a beef with a publisher. Don't get
1:09:44
into an argument by someone who buys ink by the barrel.
1:09:49
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. Thank you for that. That's good,
1:09:54
good knowledge. That's
1:09:56
John C Dvorak: an old journalism aphorism. And so he just tosses
1:10:00
that out there in kind of lackluster way. And I thought
1:10:04
immediately then no one's gonna know what he's talking about
1:10:07
when he says so I felt obliged to explain it. But the funny
1:10:10
thing is I started thinking about that, the buying by the by
1:10:14
buying ink by the barrel, because on the internet, there
1:10:18
is no ink. So we all have the ability to buy ink by the barrel
1:10:23
now because it's all just well
1:10:25
Adam Curry: hold on a second. You're, I mean, now you're
1:10:27
making a fallacy because people believe that their phone is the
1:10:32
internet and that Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, that's the
1:10:37
internet people have, we have an entire generation who don't know
1:10:41
how to publish on the internet.
1:10:45
John C Dvorak: Other than well taken. Now let's get back
1:10:47
tonight. And
1:10:48
Adam Curry: I would like to point out that it was right at
1:10:52
the beginning of COVID that I started because it's not
1:10:56
podcasts were owned by Apple. Apple started throwing people
1:11:00
off around 2019 in like Stones concert and consequent space
1:11:07
with Facebook and Twitter and everyone's throwing these guys
1:11:09
off. That's when I started podcasting to point. Oh, so
1:11:12
Brett Weinstein. The reason that you will hear your podcast is
1:11:17
because if it wasn't for me, no, that's right. That's Thank you.
1:11:21
Where's my Nobel Prize? Nobel Peace Prize on casts
1:11:25
Unknown: could possibly be a countervailing force of
1:11:29
significance. If you own NBC News. It's enough, you would say
1:11:33
alright, if you know it's it's failing to update from the
1:11:36
buying by the barrel. Totally aphorism. So what happened was,
1:11:42
it turned out that a number of us were willing to make mistakes
1:11:47
and correct them in real time to talk about this in plain English
1:11:50
with Wow,
1:11:52
Adam Curry: a number of us us truth seekers, we were we were
1:11:56
out there on the cutting edge.
1:11:58
John C Dvorak: Imagine, wow, cool. Let me compare what he did
1:12:01
and how he did it to like Sherry Tenpenny. And
1:12:05
Adam Curry: how about our show, and within two weeks, we're at
1:12:09
the
1:12:09
John C Dvorak: absolute beginning of the whole thing.
1:12:11
But I caught it early. And
1:12:13
Adam Curry: that's okay. Because I don't need to be on Tucker
1:12:15
telling him how great we are. I would I
1:12:21
Unknown: wouldn't do that public. We just cared about
1:12:24
Adam Curry: our own people. That's all we cared about and
1:12:26
Unknown: to do so you know, and Joe Rogan's man cave, and NK The
1:12:31
fact is, people listened because of course, this was on
1:12:33
everybody's mind and what they were supposed to do to protect,
1:12:36
you know, they'd been terrified. And what to do to protect your
1:12:39
family's health was a question that everybody wants to know the
1:12:42
answer to. So our ability to reach millions of people
1:12:46
surprise those who thought they were just gonna shove this
1:12:50
narrative down our throats. And this gets me to the the WHO, the
1:12:56
World Health Organization and its pandemic preparedness plan
1:13:01
modifications. What I believe is going on is the World Health
1:13:05
Organization is now revising the structures that allowed the
1:13:12
dissidents to upend the narrative. And they are looking
1:13:16
for a rematch, I think what they want are the measures that would
1:13:21
have allowed them to silence the podcasters to mandate various
1:13:26
things internationally in a way that would prevent the emergence
1:13:31
of a control group that would allow us to see harms clearly.
1:13:35
So that's the reason that I think people as much as they
1:13:38
want to move on from thinking about COVID. Maybe stop thinking
1:13:43
about COVID. But do start thinking about what has taken
1:13:47
place with respect to medicine with respect to public health,
1:13:51
with respect to pharma, and ask yourself the question, given
1:13:55
what you now know, would you want to meet live a pandemic
1:13:59
like the COVID pandemic? Without the tools that allowed you to
1:14:03
ultimately in the end see clearly that it didn't make
1:14:06
sense to take another one of the shots or to have your kids take
1:14:09
your national treasure? Brett we want those tools in fact we need
1:14:13
them and something is quietly moving just out of sight in
1:14:18
order that we will not have access to them the next time we
1:14:22
face a serious emergency.
1:14:24
Adam Curry: Wow, I'm so happy you brought this clip bull crap.
1:14:27
I've fixed that. It's fixed. Oh,
1:14:30
John C Dvorak: that's the point. This is one of the reasons for
1:14:32
the clip that it's not a bunch of people but I'm just that you
1:14:35
may have been sensing this same thing he's discussing that
1:14:39
actually happened after you sensed it. And it would probably
1:14:43
took place during the the weirdness well round Alex Jones
1:14:47
in particular cause exactly why it was a concerted I mean, it
1:14:52
was a conspiracy.
1:14:56
Adam Curry: Literal, literal conspiracy. They took off X 22
1:14:58
report that By the way,
1:15:00
John C Dvorak: they right, I forgot all about x 22. Yeah. The
1:15:04
Spotify
1:15:05
Adam Curry: takes off at least two shows a day. Yeah.
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: And but you know, but now it's it's meaningless
1:15:11
with the podcasting. 2.0. Correct. And I think yes, when I
1:15:16
just thought, what he his, the way he sees it is pretty much
1:15:22
like a confirmation of what you already did. Yeah. And I'm not,
1:15:27
I'm not here to do, you know, just compliment Caesar. But
1:15:30
there, you know,
1:15:31
Adam Curry: but but I want to say, there are hundreds,
1:15:35
literally hundreds of software developers who have their own
1:15:40
day jobs. And they've been working on this for the past
1:15:43
three and a half years. Amongst other things for this very
1:15:47
reason. That's why they joined up. It's like this is bullcrap
1:15:51
Apples to Apples taking stuff down. It's not reliable. So we
1:15:55
had to create a new index. And we're now in the process of
1:15:59
decentralizing it. So they can't come and take it away.
1:16:04
John C Dvorak: There you go. So let's go to part three, it's
1:16:06
almost
1:16:06
Unknown: impossible to exaggerate how troubling what is
1:16:09
being discussed it. In fact, I think it is fair to say that we
1:16:15
are in the middle of a coup, that we are actually facing the
1:16:22
elimination of our national and our personal sovereignty. And
1:16:29
that that is the purpose of what is being constructed, that it
1:16:32
has been written in such a way that your your eyes are supposed
1:16:38
to glaze over. It's right, as you attempt to sort out, what is
1:16:42
it? What is under discussion. And if you do that, then come
1:16:46
May of this year, your nation is almost certain to sign on to an
1:16:52
agreement that in some utterly vaguely described future
1:16:56
circumstance, a public health emergency, which the Director
1:16:59
General of the World Health Organization has total liberty
1:17:03
to define in any way that he sees fit. In other words,
1:17:07
nothing prevents climate change from being declared a public
1:17:12
health emergency that would trigger the provisions of these
1:17:16
modifications. And in the case that some emergency or some
1:17:21
pretense of an emergency shows up the provisions that would
1:17:26
kick in are beyond genre.
1:17:31
Adam Curry: So I hope he explained how it works because
1:17:34
we've covered it extensively. It's the pandemic preparedness
1:17:38
treaty, the World Health Organization he does it goes on
1:17:41
and on which was is already in place and the thinking is that
1:17:46
they can update that without it having to be ratified again
1:17:49
would like a EULA.
1:17:50
Unknown: Yeah, exactly.
1:17:52
Adam Curry: You like to
1:17:53
John C Dvorak: us. That's it. That's what set this sort of
1:17:55
idea and place within the document it says we can change
1:17:58
it. And so once you agree to that, they just changed right
1:18:02
from under but pull the rug out right from under yet.
1:18:05
Adam Curry: Now he has a point about the climate change. I
1:18:07
don't think we played this clip is from a couple shows ago. This
1:18:09
is Ted Ross, but knows all about Dez.
1:18:13
Unknown: Our food systems are harming the health of people and
1:18:16
planet. Food Systems contribute to oversee 30% of greenhouse gas
1:18:21
emissions, and account for almost 1/3 of the global burden
1:18:26
of disease, or reforming food systems is therefore essential
1:18:31
by shifting towards healthier, diversified and more plant based
1:18:36
diets. If food systems delivered healthy diets for all, we could
1:18:42
save a bone in lives per year. Nordic countries have been Trail
1:18:49
Blazers for many policy breakthroughs, including for
1:18:54
linking climate and nutrition, who is committed to supporting
1:18:59
countries to develop and implement policies to improve
1:19:02
diets and fight climate change last year, under the leadership
1:19:08
of the Egyptian cop, 27 presidency, who and our partners
1:19:13
launched icon, the Initiative on Climate Action and nutrition.
1:19:18
The icon baseline report currently shows low integration
1:19:22
of climate and nutrition in policies in funding mechanisms,
1:19:27
and particularly in the private sector. I'm therefore very
1:19:32
pleased that over 130 countries have signed the coop 28 UAE
1:19:37
Declaration on climate and health together, we can protect
1:19:43
and promote the health of both people and planet. I thank you.
1:19:48
Adam Curry: So you already nailed it. Stop eating beef. Go
1:19:52
eat your bugs. World Health Organization biggest donor has
1:19:56
always been the Gates Foundation. Here's Bill Gates
1:19:58
the back it up time You're
1:20:00
Unknown: in July. And of course I flew in on my private jet.
1:20:04
Very, very important meeting. The issue of you peasants eating
1:20:09
bugs will be discussed at length that's never gotten the
1:20:13
attention it deserves the issue of COVID-19 not killing off
1:20:18
enough poor people and my vaccines not weeding out the
1:20:21
rest of you bastards, which is a tragedy of course. We'll talk
1:20:25
about using killer robots next cat absolutely solve that
1:20:29
problem.
1:20:30
John C Dvorak: This is okay, now your ambition about AI now
1:20:33
you're using it for this show? Well,
1:20:34
Adam Curry: this is the only good use of AI Hello, I have
1:20:37
this only good use of AI.
1:20:41
John C Dvorak: Here's to follow up on on the Tedros clip here is
1:20:45
David Icke.
1:20:48
Adam Curry: Ike Yes. Also on podcasting 2.0. These days,
1:20:51
Unknown: the Netherlands, the second biggest exporter of food
1:20:54
in the world is targeting farmers to destroy them and get
1:20:58
them off the land, which is where all these farming protests
1:21:01
in the Netherlands have come from. At a time of food
1:21:03
shortages and supply chain problems. You are targeting the
1:21:09
second biggest exporter of food in the bloody world to destroy
1:21:13
its farming base.
1:21:14
Why are you doing that?
1:21:16
If people depend on you for what's left of the food you
1:21:22
control with food is abundant and cheap. You do not control
1:21:27
where energy is cheap and abundant. You do not control
1:21:31
scarcity equals dependency equals control. And that's why
1:21:36
they're targeting the food chain. They're targeting energy
1:21:39
supply. They're targeting everything.
1:21:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, and this flows right into the big German
1:21:44
protests, which is now turning into a strike a multicountry
1:21:48
strike. Here's how Deutsche Avella characterize it just
1:21:53
their intro alone tells you that the pay no attention
1:21:56
Unknown: please farmers across Germany have begun a week long
1:21:59
strike to protest the government's plans to cut
1:22:02
agricultural fuel subsidies. Lawmakers have already rolled
1:22:06
back that decision after weeks of angry demonstrations.
1:22:09
Protests planned for the next seven days include rallies that
1:22:12
will disrupt traffic in several regions. A procession of
1:22:15
tractors is expected to block off a central road here in
1:22:18
Berlin as farmers bring their frustrations to the government's
1:22:22
doorstep now okay,
1:22:23
Adam Curry: blah, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, and I'll give
1:22:26
her this I was I've never been a big fan but I'm starting to like
1:22:29
her more Eva flirting of Brooke. She's the one that pops up
1:22:33
everywhere. She's the darling of the ALT and alt right all the
1:22:36
alternative media and even right this alternative media, I'll
1:22:39
give it to her she was out there in the snow on on the big
1:22:42
highway talking to the farmers, the truckers people waiting
1:22:47
behind. And
1:22:49
Unknown: I pulled the clip and this is the most frequent
1:22:53
highway in Germany, the most used highway, actually in
1:22:57
Europe, to be honest with you. So wow, it's not it's not normal
1:23:01
to stand here. For now we are we are sick of lies, we are sick of
1:23:06
trying to get rid of our jobs. It's not a nice farmers. It's
1:23:10
the lorry drivers. It's the normal workers, everybody is
1:23:14
sick of politicians who have no idea what they're talking about
1:23:18
no education, to tell us how our lifestyles should look like. And
1:23:23
this is the result for years trying to get in contact with
1:23:28
politicians talking to them on an equal level, but they won't
1:23:32
listen. And now we have no other choice than to demonstrate. And
1:23:37
it's our right. Yes. One of the highest rights, especially in
1:23:41
Germany. Yeah. Demonstrating. We are not violent, or friendly.
1:23:47
You can see we have a we have a small gap. And people can drive
1:23:51
to these ambulances. Everybody can come through. But this is
1:23:57
only this is only the tip of the tip of the iceberg to be honest.
1:24:00
Because all over Germany we have this is the west with Dutch
1:24:05
farmers coming over to support Yes. And we have Hungarian
1:24:10
Thomas, Polish farmers, and we are all united in getting rid of
1:24:17
politicians who are trying to get rid of us. I'll give
1:24:21
Adam Curry: it to Brett Weinstein there indeed. You'll
1:24:23
only hear this on podcast and the polish of the show. It's not
1:24:27
just the farmers now it's the truckers, bakers and they're
1:24:31
sick of it. And of course we have the the rise of more
1:24:36
conservative politicians. The Netherlands just had feared
1:24:39
builders and immediately the media brands that is far right
1:24:45
you're far right in Germany. Now we got to take it even further.
1:24:49
We can have the alternative for Deutschland if de we can't have
1:24:53
those guys starting to take over our
1:24:55
Unknown: far right Alternative for Germany has been surging in
1:24:58
pre election polls, writing The wave of anti immigrant
1:25:01
sentiment. Officially, the party calls for faster deportations of
1:25:05
declined asylum seekers and illegal immigrants. But this
1:25:09
week investigative media organization corrective
1:25:12
published hidden camera footage showing the AfD might be
1:25:15
considering forcing out citizens as well. In November AFD,
1:25:19
leaders secretly met in hotel with donors and members of neo
1:25:23
Nazi movements to discuss what they call free migration. It
1:25:28
involves a large scale deportation project targeting
1:25:31
German residents of foreign origin deemed insufficiently
1:25:34
assimilated, even if they have citizenship. Yet Texas does.
1:25:39
This shows that even high ranking AFD politicians have
1:25:43
expressed radical right wing positions in a closed room home
1:25:47
these are things they would never say publicly, you know,
1:25:49
keeping bulletin AFD
1:25:52
said Wednesday that re migration would not become part of its
1:25:55
official platform. Nonetheless, the Party remains fiercely
1:25:59
opposed to immigration, even as the German economy minister has
1:26:03
called for increased immigration to solve a shortage of workers.
1:26:07
The AFD faces risks for its far right stances. The party is
1:26:12
under investigation in several states and at risk of being
1:26:16
declared extremist which would exclude it from elections.
1:26:19
Adam Curry: Does your Nazis your Nazis go away? You can't be in
1:26:23
the election. You're Nazis. Do you want to deport people I'm
1:26:27
sorry, re emigrate, whatever that means. Yeah, so the media
1:26:34
is not good for your health people. I really isn't. They do
1:26:39
not care about you are themselves too dumb. Only the
1:26:42
dumbest people get into these jobs. Now it seems.
1:26:47
John C Dvorak: And even discuss that.
1:26:50
Adam Curry: Can I go back to to AI for one second?
1:26:56
John C Dvorak: A Yeah. Yeah. I have one. I have a one off clip
1:27:00
that I could drop in here. All right, but it would change the
1:27:03
subject.
1:27:04
Adam Curry: Let me just do the AI real quick. Yeah. Because the
1:27:07
big consumer electronics show is taking place in Vegas, which of
1:27:11
course yeah, AI is the theme this year. It is the theme.
1:27:15
Yeah. Now, back in the day. Back in the day. You were you're kind
1:27:19
of like a hero at CES was Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're writing
1:27:24
theories
1:27:25
John C Dvorak: priorities. I'd have to divorce you get there
1:27:27
shortly.
1:27:27
Adam Curry: You did the chili cook off. That was the Comdex I
1:27:31
was at Comdex. Oh, but see, but everyone would wait for your
1:27:35
beer snark to come out of sickness people love.
1:27:39
Unknown: Those days are over.
1:27:41
Adam Curry: What do you mean? What do you do twice a week
1:27:43
here? Yeah,
1:27:44
John C Dvorak: well, never Different. Different audience.
1:27:47
Adam Curry: I mean, people fawn over you, you know, going to the
1:27:50
back of PC Magazine as they do over me at headbangers ball. I'm
1:27:54
telling you that hard to fork. I love that guy. Boy, he's not
1:27:58
dead. He's still here. I love that guy. So what is what are
1:28:03
the there's a couple things that we have always called bull crap
1:28:07
on. Bull crap. What am I hearing? Is that you? I'm
1:28:10
hearing some kind of hum nothing is coming from you.
1:28:15
John C Dvorak: What are you buzz? Yeah.
1:28:17
Adam Curry: Uh hum. Like, periodic homes. Like, are you
1:28:20
leaning on something? Yeah. So micro payments, like all that.
1:28:26
micro payments can do micro payments and make them well
1:28:29
actually, podcasting. 2.0 has micro payments, but we'll leave
1:28:32
that aside. The other thing is the smart refrigerator. Oh,
1:28:37
yeah, it's back. ponents like, Is that done? Are you back is
1:28:40
back with with a frenzy? Yes. And, and now that this so
1:28:46
whenever I hear this, I know that this whole thing is
1:28:48
bullcrap. The whole CES is filled with the stupid they got
1:28:53
monitors with AI heads talking. They've got robots that are
1:28:58
serving drinks. Really, this literally
1:29:01
John C Dvorak: happened to the talking cat that was had a
1:29:03
YouTube channel. That was some good AI. That was good stuff.
1:29:07
Adam Curry: So here it is. Finally, it's here.
1:29:10
Unknown: We've all heard the scary predictions that
1:29:12
artificial intelligence could spell the end of humanity but AI
1:29:16
is already here or soon will be in places as common as a living
1:29:20
room or the kitchen. This high tech refrigerator is powered by
1:29:25
AI and it also has eyes.
1:29:28
The fridge sees I just put in a tomato. A built
1:29:31
in camera allows it to see food that's put in and taken out and
1:29:35
it uses that information to give out suggestions. Don't give up
1:29:38
for a while do
1:29:39
so the fridge will be able to say you've got these items, you
1:29:43
should try this recipe. Or if you have this food item that
1:29:46
expires in two days, you should use it. So AI allows the fridge
1:29:50
to keep track of its contents in an environmentally responsible
1:29:54
way.
1:29:55
So artificial intelligence is everywhere at this year. See,
1:30:00
the huge popularity of chat GPT has helped make it inescapable
1:30:05
AI will soon be in our cars to this French startup has
1:30:09
attracted several major automakers by creating an
1:30:11
augmented reality dashboard, along with a virtual co pilots.
1:30:16
That's
1:30:17
what sets AI apart is that it will remember your requests and
1:30:21
answers over time. You better conversations tend to be more
1:30:25
intuitive. That sounds fancy, and it's more effective than
1:30:28
looking at a screen and pressing on it.
1:30:30
Adam Curry: Oh, it's more effective than pressing a
1:30:33
button. Is this really this is really what what this revolution
1:30:40
is about? I'm sorry, they've gotten nothing. We've been
1:30:45
hearing about this. I mean, to me, this whole thing sounded
1:30:48
like Mac world when the Newton came out. I was there. I was one
1:30:52
of those dopes.
1:30:54
Unknown: Oh yeah.
1:30:55
Adam Curry: He does. Handwriting recognition. Kind of let me
1:31:00
squirt over my address my my contact card to you. Well,
1:31:05
John C Dvorak: I forgot about squirting squirt. score was the
1:31:08
word. Yes. Squirting rose.
1:31:11
Adam Curry: I wonder if I hope I still have my Newton somewhere.
1:31:16
John C Dvorak: Oh, you probably do your auction item is I've
1:31:20
ever got one I don't think ever had to
1:31:22
Adam Curry: I had the original which I went to Boston to go get
1:31:24
I was so excited. And then by the time I'm on the plane home
1:31:27
like this thing kind of sucks. Doesn't really, you know, it's
1:31:31
like, oh no connect to a modem. Have you ever tried to do your
1:31:33
password writing on the Newton? Trust me? Impossible. The whole
1:31:40
thing is just this is nothing. That's all they had. They didn't
1:31:44
have anything interesting. I looked at all the reports
1:31:48
nothing interesting. Nothing.
1:31:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that report about the refrigerator
1:31:56
cracked up. Yeah, you know, I don't want a refrigerator. Why?
1:32:00
What is the refrigerator didn't even know how to cook, let alone
1:32:04
offer me recipe suggest a avid tomato. Why don't you do this?
1:32:09
screw yourself. I bought that tomato for a reason not to get
1:32:13
he listened to your guff?
1:32:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, it means you just go willy nilly and just oh,
1:32:17
I just need some tomatoes. I hope my fridge can help me out
1:32:19
what to do with them. I got no idea.
1:32:23
John C Dvorak: So I have a very short clip about the Alaska
1:32:26
airline thing. Yes, it was pointed out to me by Mimi. Yeah,
1:32:32
I
1:32:32
Adam Curry: was wrong. I was wrong. I'm well, I'm happy to
1:32:35
say it. But I do have questions about this. Well, you're wrong.
1:32:39
What do you mean, you're wrong about less seats versus more
1:32:41
seats? Oh,
1:32:43
John C Dvorak: yeah, no, you're right. We have just the
1:32:44
opposite. But I haven't we do have a note from a guy that I
1:32:47
could bring it up everyone. We have a note from a guy and it
1:32:50
was the idea was to have more leg room. It
1:32:53
Adam Curry: was just a no, no, no, no, hold on. I said this, is
1:32:55
this what he said? I know, but this is where I disagree. You
1:32:58
need to have one emergency exit every 50 passengers every 50
1:33:04
seats. Right. So the reason they didn't have that is because
1:33:09
there were less seats.
1:33:11
John C Dvorak: Right. But the reason for less seats was to
1:33:14
give people more legroom
1:33:15
Adam Curry: upfront maybe if all seats count not just the seats
1:33:20
in the back. I think it's for the first or business class
1:33:24
believe me no airline in their right mind is saying oh I want
1:33:29
to give people more or less
1:33:31
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to argue that okay, I'm just saying
1:33:33
this kind of what he implied but a lot of that's not what this
1:33:37
clips about. Okay. This clip is about something what was the now
1:33:41
this plane took off? Do you remember? It took off? How long
1:33:44
was it in the air before this thing blew out? I was
1:33:47
Adam Curry: at 16,000 feet so I don't know probably 20 minutes
1:33:54
and 1520 minutes and they
1:33:56
John C Dvorak: flew right back? Yeah, they turned around
1:34:00
immediately flew back which I understand was 18 minutes to get
1:34:02
back. Now that makes sense. So tell me how it works with this
1:34:09
particular report. This is the Alaska Air BS. AC
1:34:12
Unknown: this morning the door plug that flew off and Alaska
1:34:15
Airlines flight in midair leaving this gaping hole behind
1:34:18
now found after a three day search the NTSB locating it in
1:34:22
the backyard of a Portland school teacher. The discovery
1:34:25
coming as authorities revealed no data can be pulled from the
1:34:28
cockpit voice recorder because it was completely
1:34:31
overwritten
1:34:32
at two hours it writes it rerecord so for it so we have
1:34:36
nothing from the CVR
1:34:39
Adam Curry: That's correct.
1:34:41
John C Dvorak: It wasn't in flight for two hours. Oh 20
1:34:48
minutes up 80 minutes back. Where's the two hours? Very
1:34:52
Adam Curry: well met? Yeah. Yeah, someone someone messed up
1:34:56
there.
1:34:57
John C Dvorak: This is a cover up. Oh, Well, I'm hearing maybe
1:35:01
the cover up you may have suggested, which is a pilot
1:35:04
error. Well,
1:35:05
Adam Curry: so here I'm getting more information and, and I'm
1:35:09
just, this is all information I'm getting from people who are
1:35:11
aviators and I trust them. Some people will I mean, I'm getting
1:35:15
emails like you're discrediting the show from the pilot. Yes,
1:35:22
okay. Same guy. No, this is different guy cuz like him
1:35:25
because No, no, actually, that guy ended with Hey, man, I saw
1:35:30
you on Rogen, with your you witness to God that God bless.
1:35:34
First he yells at me. It appears that this is, so when it comes
1:35:41
to the pressurization. There's two systems at pressurization is
1:35:46
automatic, but there was a failure notice. And then there
1:35:50
was a second failure when they switched to the second system,
1:35:53
which would kind of be Hey, can you breathe? I can breathe.
1:35:55
Yeah, I can be this fine. You feel okay. Yeah. Because you
1:35:58
know, you've been talking about hypoxia. And they were 16,000
1:36:01
feet. So at 16,000 feet, you're you have ample time to do
1:36:05
something. You're not out of oxygen at 16,000 feet. It starts
1:36:10
to get a little wonky after a while. But it appears that these
1:36:13
bolts that day, were either not properly installed after
1:36:18
maintenance, or from the factory for the door plug and that the
1:36:22
door is probably leaking. And that's where the warnings came
1:36:26
from. So there was all kinds of issues. But what I'm hearing now
1:36:29
from Air Force, and naval airman is they're all They're all given
1:36:34
up on Boeing, they're all training on Airbus, because they
1:36:37
want careers after you know, after their service. They want
1:36:40
to be on air buses. There is a huge distrust of Boeing in the
1:36:45
aviation community. And we've always talked about it could be
1:36:48
sabotage for all you know, we've always talked about Airbus
1:36:51
versus Boeing. And Boeing has had a couple of problems
1:36:57
John C Dvorak: well now their inspectors are going out and
1:36:59
finding loose bolts are loose bolts Yeah. How does that
1:37:03
happen? There's no quality control control at bowling makes
1:37:08
no or is it sabotage? Because you we this is revisiting
1:37:13
something from listeners years and years and producer this was
1:37:16
get over a decade ago that you brought forth for this thesis
1:37:20
because we got we started to see planes dropping from the sky
1:37:24
look first at Boeing and then an Airbus Yeah.
1:37:29
Adam Curry: That's right. It would be one for one we'd be
1:37:31
keeping score.
1:37:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if there is if it was like okay, you It's
1:37:35
like watching the mob. You killed Billy you know, was so
1:37:39
you know, Denise gotta go. So it was like that.
1:37:44
Unknown: Yeah. Well, then there's this story and for
1:37:49
anyone who ever dropped their iPhone and had a crack, a head
1:37:52
scratcher tonight, Sean Bates from Oregon out walking, he
1:37:55
found one of the iPhones sucked from that plane at 16,000 feet.
1:37:59
He called the NTSB, the screen was not cracked. In fact, it had
1:38:02
a message about the passengers baggage. Incredible.
1:38:06
Adam Curry: Incredible is right. Come on.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: Okay, I believe it's possible,
1:38:15
Adam Curry: though. I believe it's possible, but why not get
1:38:17
the person whose iPhone it is if it's unlocked, you can see who
1:38:20
it belongs to get that person. This is the same as where's the
1:38:25
shirt got ripped off his body? Yeah, who
1:38:27
John C Dvorak: was where's that? Yeah, that bothers me too. That
1:38:30
they don't do the although they're so lazy. They find an
1:38:36
iPhone like the guy who loves you get a hold of it. Yeah, it's
1:38:39
too much work.
1:38:40
Adam Curry: And who knows all of this could be Bull. I mean, I
1:38:43
love how calm everybody was with a big gaping hole. That was
1:38:47
pretty amazing. That was a very very calm cabin
1:38:51
John C Dvorak: was like hey, you seem to be some at least one or
1:38:53
two people shrieking we don't have any
1:38:56
Adam Curry: any of that. And supposedly, this was another
1:39:02
weird one. The decompression event was so so severe that the
1:39:07
cockpit door blew open that's not supposed to happen
1:39:13
John C Dvorak: that's yes that's right that was reported
1:39:15
Adam Curry: reinforced you know so so people with box cutters
1:39:18
can't get through oh boy we're getting real deep now all and we
1:39:24
can't trust anything because because it's so the reporting is
1:39:27
so poor all will be revealed this year this is the year the
1:39:33
big reveal. I'm telling you it's all going to happen all this is
1:39:37
going to happen
1:39:38
Unknown: yeah
1:39:41
John C Dvorak: I got some I got this report the Epstein last
1:39:45
Doc's.
1:39:46
Adam Curry: Oh goodness. Another distraction of the week. The
1:39:52
newest one. No, yeah, I'm all in
1:39:55
Unknown: the newest batch of unsealed Jeffrey Epstein.
1:39:57
documents released Tuesday show the hike Cost allegedly paid for
1:40:01
sex with a teenager, Virginia Giuffre an Epstein accuser said
1:40:05
Epstein paid her $15,000 to have sex with Britain's Prince Andrew
1:40:10
in 2011. Bomb she says she was 17. At the time Prince Andrew
1:40:14
has repeatedly denied they had sex. He has also denied that he
1:40:18
ever met her, the 1482 pages released or the last set to be
1:40:23
made public. They include several depositions from Glenn
1:40:26
Maxwell one from Epstein, one from jus Frey, and another from
1:40:30
Sara ransom and alleged adult victim of Epstein. The records
1:40:34
are part of a defamation lawsuit brought by Giuffre against
1:40:38
Maxwell Epstein's longtime companion. The case settled in
1:40:42
2017. Included in the heavily redacted documents or
1:40:46
allegations do Frey was directed to have sex with other high
1:40:49
profile men, such as Glenn Dubin, a billionaire hedge fund
1:40:53
manager, and billionaire retail magnate les Wexner. Both men
1:40:58
have denied you phrase claims former President Trump was also
1:41:02
identified in the depositions. fray said she met the former
1:41:05
president but didn't see him doing anything improper. But
1:41:09
ransom claimed in 2016 emails to a New York Post columnist that
1:41:13
Trump was involved in Epstein sex trafficking, she later
1:41:17
retracted the claim in a follow up email.
1:41:22
Adam Curry: The world is in so much peril in so many ways, but
1:41:27
yet this is what occupies everybody yet.
1:41:30
John C Dvorak: Well, the better part of this is what Jim
1:41:32
Gaffigan said at the at the globes. Oh, hold on a second. So
1:41:38
Gaffigan goes up to give some awards out. And and this is what
1:41:44
he said.
1:41:45
Adam Curry: I can't even believe I'm in the entertainment
1:41:47
industry. I can't I you know, it's so unlikely I'm from a
1:41:52
small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile. You know, I just I
1:41:59
don't know if that's a new category here
1:42:02
John C Dvorak: but
1:42:04
Adam Curry: we decided we were not going to watch that. I just
1:42:08
really didn't want to watch it. I just didn't know I missed
1:42:12
that. That's pretty funny. He's doing a Ricky Gervais there it's
1:42:16
pretty a
1:42:16
John C Dvorak: pull one off he got written got away with it.
1:42:18
There was some bells that there's somebody also was up
1:42:21
there insulting Taylor Swift on there. That was
1:42:24
Adam Curry: the host
1:42:27
John C Dvorak: was terrible. I mean, did you watch
1:42:28
Adam Curry: it? You watch the golden you watch the Golden
1:42:31
Globes?
1:42:31
John C Dvorak: I watch all these worship do what I did is I had
1:42:34
it taped.
1:42:35
Adam Curry: Okay, so you sped through all the boring was any
1:42:38
hurt?
1:42:38
John C Dvorak: And I heard about the Gaffigan thing. So I went
1:42:40
and got that. And then the rest of it. I talked to some people
1:42:43
who watch the old thing and they told me what to look for. Was it
1:42:45
an African thing was the main thing was anything
1:42:48
Adam Curry: else was any good? No. With any with any movies
1:42:51
that we had heard of? That's the main thing. Yeah. Oppenheimer
1:42:54
John C Dvorak: won most of the awards. And then Barbie won a
1:42:56
couple. Yeah. And then there's a couple other things and most of
1:43:00
the same old, same old girl sitting there in the audience.
1:43:03
And, you know, yeah, meanwhile, it wasn't that it wasn't really
1:43:08
that much of a killer event.
1:43:11
Adam Curry: Now, no one cares anymore. The entertainment
1:43:13
business in the mainstream, I think is dead. I don't even know
1:43:16
why Taylor Swift goes to that why she going? She
1:43:19
John C Dvorak: got suckered into going because they created a
1:43:22
whole new category for her Eros movie
1:43:27
Adam Curry: that she wanted to get her to go Did she win? I
1:43:31
John C Dvorak: don't know to be honest about it. But whatever
1:43:34
the case is, I look at these things and say what these guys
1:43:39
are shooting themselves in the foot because for example, the
1:43:41
Emmys give out more of the awards, go to cabled shows. Now
1:43:46
they don't broadcast TV is given the short, the short end of the
1:43:51
of the whatever short stick the stick. They're given the short
1:43:56
end of the stick, and they give everything to one cable have
1:43:59
their own awards. Cable, I don't get why they're doing that they
1:44:02
shouldn't be on broadcast TV. They should be promoting
1:44:05
broadcast TV with awards. But isn't it?
1:44:10
Adam Curry: Streamers as well podcast,
1:44:12
John C Dvorak: for example, the Podcast Awards are being given
1:44:15
to people who are just repurposing old PBS shows that
1:44:20
they shouldn't get any awards for that. That's why we should
1:44:23
do podcasting awards and do it right the
1:44:26
Adam Curry: sort of the podcast Hall of Fame awards or induct
1:44:30
induction ceremony is taking place in a couple of weeks in
1:44:34
Florida at pod fest. Pod fest pod fest. Yes. And our buddy
1:44:40
Michael Butler being inducted into the Hall of Fame and
1:44:43
rightly so I think rightly so.
1:44:44
John C Dvorak: Did he ask me he's been doing that show
1:44:46
forever. He
1:44:47
Adam Curry: asked you to induct him. No, no, he asked me and I
1:44:52
declined. So I'm not gonna
1:44:53
John C Dvorak: know he didn't ask me anything. I figured he
1:44:55
thinks I'm a schmuck. I guess you know, he
1:44:57
Adam Curry: loves you. What are you talking about? Really good.
1:45:00
It
1:45:00
John C Dvorak: asked me I would have done it.
1:45:01
Adam Curry: Will you go to Florida? No. Yeah.
1:45:08
Unknown: Please. And meanwhile, the firmament still
1:45:12
impenetrable. The first US mission to land in the moon in
1:45:15
more than 50 years is tonight, just hours after this morning's
1:45:19
launch Astrobotic technology five ad company behind the
1:45:23
mission, said the unmanned spacecraft developed a critical
1:45:26
fuel leak, the issue could prevent the Peregrine lander
1:45:29
from touching down February 23. As planned, it's not going to
1:45:34
John C Dvorak: make it of course, it's going to crash
1:45:36
land. Yeah. Yeah, whatever they do is they catch but there's
1:45:43
nobody in it. So it could be launched. Well,
1:45:45
Adam Curry: there's DNA, you know, some company who does a
1:45:49
burial on the moon for you so they had ashes and DNA of former
1:45:53
presidents. He's gonna get buried deep. It's not gonna
1:45:58
crash into the moon.
1:46:00
John C Dvorak: You don't think it's even on his way? Launched?
1:46:03
They can't
1:46:03
Adam Curry: get past the firmament No way. And now, on
1:46:09
the heels. On the heels of that, on the heels of that
1:46:12
Unknown: a commercial robotic mission to the moon will not
1:46:14
make it to the lunar surface. As NPRs Jeff Brumfield reports, the
1:46:18
probe has suffered a critical failure.
1:46:20
The small probe was launched on Monday by the company Astrobotic
1:46:24
shortly after reaching space it ran into trouble. The company
1:46:27
quickly realized that the spacecraft propulsion system had
1:46:30
sprung a leak causing it to tumble. They've regained
1:46:33
control, they've continued to lose propellant. They now say
1:46:36
they only have enough fuel to operate for about another day
1:46:39
and a half Bob the mission was the first of a series of NASA
1:46:42
backed commercial flights to the moon. NASA hopes that these
1:46:45
companies will one day ferry equipment and experiments to
1:46:48
astronauts on the lunar surface. Separately, the space agency
1:46:52
announced it is pushing back its first mission to send astronauts
1:46:56
to orbit the moon since the Apollo program. It will be
1:46:59
delayed until 2025 Jeff Brumfield and PR news blow your
1:47:03
nose
1:47:05
John C Dvorak: or something or stop using what are you using so
1:47:08
Adam Curry: everything's failing? And then Elon rockets
1:47:11
blow up Oh, that's a success. I'm sorry. It's considered a
1:47:14
success. We can't do it 50 years ago we walked on the moon
1:47:26
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to round hit a golf ball again.
1:47:29
Adam Curry: The golf ball we got about that. Driving around in
1:47:35
the in the in the lunar rover what was that? What is it called
1:47:37
was called the rover the rover? Yeah, driving around and like a
1:47:41
dune buggy. Hey, bouncing on the moon. It was great. Not a
1:47:46
problem. Now the richest guys in the world can't make it happen.
1:47:49
The season of reveal is upon us. Bear everything will
1:47:53
everything's going to come out. And quantum computing is going
1:47:58
to be the next big thing. I know that you are now starting to see
1:48:03
what I'm seeing. No,
1:48:04
John C Dvorak: I mean, I saw something but I'm still not into
1:48:08
the I'm not all in because it's such a laughable technologies.
1:48:14
Let's do a three by three. Oh, that's
1:48:15
Adam Curry: a good idea. Now it's time for a three by three.
1:48:18
Oh yeah, baby experiment five. JC is a big experiment Parents
1:48:22
TV from ABC. John has three clips from the big networks,
1:48:31
ABC, NBC, CBS and we're going to compare them do they come from
1:48:34
one talking point? Are they from the White House? Is there
1:48:37
collusion? Or is it just dumb? Dumb journalism?
1:48:41
John C Dvorak: As we pointed out in the not just last newsletter,
1:48:44
but the one before they we have a producer that is an X major,
1:48:51
major, medium work news director and retired. Yes.
1:48:58
Adam Curry: And told us that basically they get all the stuff
1:49:00
from one main. Same name Joker, same source, the same clips,
1:49:04
they get it just here's your tape go put it together, put
1:49:07
your own guy or gal in there good
1:49:09
John C Dvorak: to go. Yes. And that's what we're seeing with
1:49:11
these clips.
1:49:13
Adam Curry: What is the topic for today?
1:49:14
John C Dvorak: What about the judges at Trump federal judge
1:49:17
story that don't reveal itself with the ABC clip
1:49:20
Unknown: today Donald Trump looking on in court as his
1:49:23
attorney tried to convince a skeptical panel of judges that
1:49:27
the foreign president should have complete immunity from
1:49:29
prosecution for trying to overturn the election he at
1:49:33
last. This was the central argument from Trump's lawyers
1:49:37
to authorize the prosecution of a president for his official
1:49:40
acts would open a Pandora's Box from which this nation may never
1:49:45
recover. Never
1:49:46
judge Florence pan immediately challenging that argument.
1:49:50
Could a president sell pardons or sell military secrets? Those
1:49:54
are official acts right. It's an official act to grant a pardon.
1:49:57
It's an official act to communicate with a foreign
1:49:59
government. You Trump's
1:50:00
attorney claiming a president must be impeached and convicted
1:50:03
by Congress before he can be charged with a crime. And
1:50:07
a president ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political
1:50:10
rival. That's an official act in order to seal team since
1:50:13
he would have to be in what speedily be impeached and
1:50:18
convicted before the criminal prosecution
1:50:20
judge pan pressing again, could a president who ordered SEAL
1:50:24
team sets to assassinate a political rival was not
1:50:26
impeached he'd be subject to criminal prosecution if
1:50:29
he were impeached and convicted first. And
1:50:31
so your answer is
1:50:33
Special Counsel, Prosecutor pounced.
1:50:36
What kind of world are we living in? If, as I understand my
1:50:39
friend on the other side to say here, a president orders his
1:50:43
SEAL team to assassinate a political rival, designed, for
1:50:47
example, before an impeachment, not a criminal act, President
1:50:51
sells a pardon, resigns or is not impeached, not a cry. I
1:50:55
think that is extraordinarily frightening future
1:50:59
come sat there emotionless, often taking notes and passing
1:51:02
them to his attorneys. He did not appear to make eye contact
1:51:05
with special counsel Jack Smith, who was also in court. But he
1:51:09
nodded emphatically at times. And when it was all over the
1:51:12
address reporters,
1:51:14
the President has to have immunity. And the other thing is
1:51:17
I did nothing wrong. We did nothing wrong.
1:51:19
Adam Curry: You know, the sad thing is toll our toll our sends
1:51:23
me. I rarely use them. Because sometimes just not showing us
1:51:28
all but he sends me the C span clips. And there's definitely
1:51:32
people in our country. who are who are saved by this who now
1:51:38
think Trump might use SEAL Team Six to kill his rivals.
1:51:43
John C Dvorak: I love that one.
1:51:45
Adam Curry: I mean, who could How do you even come up with
1:51:46
this theory? Oh, sealed. Seal Team Six. You don't need to have
1:51:51
the, you know, the Chinook go down to assassinate someone was
1:51:55
SEAL Team Six.
1:51:58
John C Dvorak: So it's crazy. What's interesting is I'm
1:52:01
surprised nobody brought up the fact that Obama had authorized
1:52:05
the killing of two American citizens. Yeah, dad and his and
1:52:09
his son, dad and his son. And then it also, I think there was
1:52:13
another guy killed in the process. It was not. And if
1:52:18
Trump was found guilty of any of this stuff, I don't see why some
1:52:21
Republican gag get in office and then find Obama guilty of
1:52:26
premeditated murder.
1:52:28
Adam Curry: I should have also mentioned that, you know, Obama
1:52:31
killed SEAL Team Six. We all know that. Yeah. And there's
1:52:34
also that that minor minor boy who was
1:52:38
John C Dvorak: let's go to him. Same report, NBC. Tonight,
1:52:42
Unknown: a ruling expected anytime from the federal appeals
1:52:45
court, which appeared deeply skeptical today of Donald
1:52:48
Trump's efforts to derail the case about his attempts to
1:52:52
overturn the 2020 election. I
1:52:54
did nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing. Well, as a president,
1:52:59
you have to have immunity. So
1:53:01
Adam Curry: they reverse the report and put the ending at the
1:53:03
beginning. Yeah, okay. All right. Nothing. Well, I
1:53:06
Unknown: feel that as a president, you have to have
1:53:09
immunity.
1:53:09
The Republican front runner watching on in court, his his
1:53:12
lawyer, John Sauer urged the three judge panel to break new
1:53:16
legal ground and find the former president immune from
1:53:19
prosecution emphasizing everything he's been charged for
1:53:23
took place when he was still in the White House. We
1:53:26
have the prosecution of the chief political opponent who is
1:53:28
winning in that report and is being prosecuted by the
1:53:30
administration that he's seeking to replace
1:53:32
while the Justice Department argues nothing in the
1:53:35
Constitution supports shielding Mr. Trump from prosecution now,
1:53:39
never before has there been allegations that a sitting
1:53:42
president has with private individuals and using the levers
1:53:46
of power such to fundamentally subvert the Democratic Republic
1:53:50
and the electoral system. It would be awfully scary if there
1:53:53
weren't some sort of mechanism by which to reach that.
1:53:57
criminally judge Florence pan a Biden appointee posing Stark
1:54:01
hypotheticals on what a future president could do if Mr.
1:54:05
Trump's view prevailed. Could
1:54:07
a president ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political
1:54:10
rival? The
1:54:11
answer in sours view? Yes. So long as the president was
1:54:15
impeached and convicted first spending much of his argument on
1:54:18
the Senate acquitting Mr. Trump at his 2021 impeachment trial, a
1:54:23
position DOJ cast as frightening. What kind
1:54:26
of world are we living in? The President has the constitutional
1:54:30
roll, but he is not above the law. Yeah,
1:54:34
Adam Curry: that same clips they just reversed the order. It's
1:54:37
pretty good. I think. Honestly, from a editing standpoint. I
1:54:41
think it was good to bring in the Trump thing first, get that
1:54:45
out of the way and not leave it last. But the ABC I liked the
1:54:49
SEAL Team Six at the beginning better I think that would have
1:54:52
kept people watching if I was to edit this.
1:54:56
John C Dvorak: Well, they did definitely scrambled these with
1:54:59
this exact Same clips just scrambled. Let's go to CBS which
1:55:02
I still maintain, does the best job of, of, I'd say creating a
1:55:09
dramatic
1:55:10
Unknown: moment. After arriving in a motorcade through the rain
1:55:14
Donald Trump sat in the front row as his attorney argued the
1:55:17
2020 election conspiracy criminal case against the former
1:55:20
president must be dismissed to
1:55:22
authorize the prosecution of a president for his official acts
1:55:26
would open a Pandora's Box from which this nation may never
1:55:30
recover. A
1:55:32
trial judge rejected his claim of presidential immunity last
1:55:35
year saying the former president doesn't enjoy a Get Out of Jail
1:55:38
Free card, which the prosecutor echoed today.
1:55:42
The President has a unique constitutional role, but he is
1:55:45
not above the law.
1:55:47
The appeals court appeared skeptical too, with one judge
1:55:50
calling it paradoxical for a president to swear an oath to
1:55:53
uphold the law yet be allowed to violate the law. Judge Florence
1:55:57
pan posed a pointed hypothetical that Trump's attorney could
1:56:01
a president who ordered SEAL team sets to assassinate a
1:56:04
political rival who was not impeached he be subject to
1:56:09
criminal prosecution
1:56:10
if he were impeached and convicted first, the
1:56:13
judges also pressed Trump's attorney when he acknowledged
1:56:16
the former president could be charged if he had been convicted
1:56:19
by the Senate and his 2021 impeachment.
1:56:21
If Donald Trump could have been
1:56:24
impeached and convicted and therefore could be prosecuted,
1:56:29
then how can they argue immunity at the same time? It's a
1:56:33
contradiction
1:56:34
that he claimed he was forced from the campaign trail by the
1:56:37
case Trump appeared in court voluntarily and addressed
1:56:40
cameras at his former DC hotel after they
1:56:43
feel that as a president, you have to have immunity. Very
1:56:46
simple. Same
1:56:47
Adam Curry: clip is all the same. So all the same. You know,
1:56:50
that also
1:56:51
John C Dvorak: brings up I would reiterate my comment about why
1:56:55
has Obama not been indicted for murder? Who cares? I do I don't
1:57:02
want to murdering people.
1:57:04
Adam Curry: No, I understand that. But we That's That's old
1:57:07
shows. Here's here's the mistake. They're all making the
1:57:12
media in particular, if the creative or AI Consulting Group,
1:57:15
if they could afford us if they could hire us. We would say
1:57:19
they're using the wrong words. They keep saying Donald Trump
1:57:23
tried to overturn overturn overturn the word they want is
1:57:28
overthrow they're making a mistake here overturn is a legal
1:57:31
process. If it was violent, they should use the word overthrow.
1:57:38
The first one to do that is smart, because it's just but
1:57:41
John C Dvorak: it fits into the what their real narrative is. I
1:57:45
agree with you, that would be a much better use of the much
1:57:48
better term to use if we were doing political consulting.
1:57:52
That's what we advise.
1:57:53
Adam Curry: Do we know what we're doing? Well meanwhile,
1:57:58
this is the drivel that your M five M shovels down your throat
1:58:01
all day long. An
1:58:02
Unknown: investigation is underway in Colorado following
1:58:04
reports that Republican congresswoman Lauren bowburn got
1:58:07
into a physical fight with her ex husband at a restaurant A
1:58:10
source tells The Daily Beast that Jason Bovard called police
1:58:13
claiming he was the victim of domestic violence. Police
1:58:15
confirmed the investigation last night. A statement from Lauren
1:58:18
bellbirds campaign said she did not punch her ex in the face and
1:58:22
no one was arrested. So
1:58:25
Adam Curry: so, you know, I
1:58:27
John C Dvorak: believe this is all true. But this up seems like
1:58:30
the type No, I mean, I don't want to generalize, but she does
1:58:36
seem like the type
1:58:36
Adam Curry: and I think reports are out today. That didn't
1:58:38
happen.
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: That's the type.
1:58:41
Adam Curry: Why is this news? Who cares? Who
1:58:43
John C Dvorak: cares? Just gossip. It's T m z?
1:58:46
Adam Curry: Yes. That will that's what it's become. Now.
1:58:48
What should happen? Is this I mean, I'd love to see this
1:58:53
happen in American television studios.
1:58:56
Unknown: Tonight. This is the chilling moment armed men
1:58:59
stormed the set of a public TV channel in Ecuador firing off
1:59:02
guns and waving apparent explosives during a live
1:59:06
broadcast. The studio crew taken hostage for at least 15 minutes
1:59:11
on air as the country watched. Police leader surrounding the
1:59:17
station arresting several suspects. And across Ecuador
1:59:21
fiery blast rocking multiple cities this one engulfing a
1:59:25
police car. The wave of violence beginning just hours after
1:59:29
Ecuador's president declared a state of emergency following a
1:59:32
prison escape by notorious most tornadoes gang leader Udolpho
1:59:36
Macias the government battling with what they say or at least
1:59:39
22 Different criminal groups angered by that state of
1:59:43
emergency. Tonight authorities say at least seven police
1:59:46
officers have been kidnapped Ecuador once known as one of
1:59:49
South America's most peaceful countries seeing an explosion in
1:59:53
recent years of organized crime related violence linked to
1:59:56
Mexican drug cartels. And David that state of emergency They
2:00:00
will remain in place for at least 60 days which gives the
2:00:02
country's military the right to enter some of the prisons.
2:00:05
They're criminals inside of which responsible for so much of
2:00:08
the violence we've seen recently.
2:00:10
Adam Curry: The footage was really interesting to the so
2:00:13
this gang breaks in and they shoot a couple shots in the air.
2:00:17
And they all got hoodies on there all the throwing gang
2:00:20
signs and the audio guy is out there miking him. He's like,
2:00:26
Hold on hold. Let me Mike. Yep, I want to get I want to get it.
2:00:28
All right, is putting on he's putting the Lavalier on.
2:00:32
John C Dvorak: That's great. Now I have the same Ecuador report,
2:00:35
but it's kind of slanted differently. It's pretty much
2:00:39
the same, but it's also put it at this and TD so to be
2:00:42
different in
2:00:43
Adam Curry: the context. This
2:00:45
Unknown: is in the D Ecuador's president says the country is at
2:00:49
war as drug gangs hold more than 130 prison staff hostage. Police
2:00:55
have made at least dozens of arrests and confiscated weapons,
2:00:58
Molotov cocktails and ammunition. So
2:01:03
we are practically living in a state of war against terrorism.
2:01:08
These are not organized crime groups. They are terrorists who
2:01:12
are financed by drug trafficking, trafficking in
2:01:15
people, organs and arms.
2:01:17
On Tuesday, armed gangs unleashed a wave of violence
2:01:21
around a nation and the worst of these incidents. Gunmen with
2:01:24
explosives stormed a TV station on air. Police arrested the men.
2:01:29
The violence prompted President and on a boy to name at 22 gangs
2:01:33
as terrorist organizations to be hunted by the military. The
2:01:38
violence began after a major gang leader apparently escaped
2:01:41
from prison over the weekend. Ecuador is planning new high
2:01:45
security prisons for gang leaders. The President plans to
2:01:49
release two of the designs tomorrow. He also plans to begin
2:01:52
to deport foreign prisoners to reduce prison populations. The
2:01:56
Biden administration is monitoring the situation Oh,
2:02:01
Adam Curry: send them here. Send them up north.
2:02:04
John C Dvorak: That's about right. But wow, when did when
2:02:07
did Ecuador go from becoming the Darling country of John Perkins?
2:02:12
The economic hitman Guy Yeah. And and a potential landing
2:02:18
point for Julian Assange or Snowden whoever would know
2:02:21
Snowden I guess, to this this what changed?
2:02:25
Adam Curry: I don't know. But right next door El Salvador they
2:02:28
they got rid of all of that. It's now become less.
2:02:31
John C Dvorak: Salvador is nowhere near Ecuador. I thought
2:02:34
it was near Ecuador. No, El Salvador is in Central America.
2:02:37
Whereas Ecuador. It's in South America.
2:02:41
Adam Curry: They're not they're not neighbors know.
2:02:45
John C Dvorak: Well, that's bigger doors on the west coast
2:02:48
of central of South America near
2:02:54
Adam Curry: Peru. Alright, well, people, you don't have to send
2:02:56
me emails about how stupid I am. Okay. It's next to Honduras and
2:03:04
Guatemala as well as thinking of Guatemala. Another fine country.
2:03:09
So I got that poster of me from the American Library
2:03:13
Association. Yeah, sure. Anonymous librarian. So kindly
2:03:16
sent.
2:03:18
John C Dvorak: It's great. Yeah,
2:03:20
Adam Curry: it's very nice. And Enzo from that, somehow, we were
2:03:23
talking about Little House on the Prairie. I don't know why.
2:03:27
Well, I don't remember exactly why either. But first of all,
2:03:29
there's a huge Little House on the Prairie community. There's a
2:03:34
podcast called the Walnut Grove cast. Oh, yeah. None of that.
2:03:39
But here's what she she said Little House on the Prairie.
2:03:42
They had a there was an award. The Wilder metal was stripped.
2:03:51
Her name was stripped off of the award in 2018 because of racism
2:03:55
in our books.
2:03:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, please.
2:04:00
Adam Curry: Isn't How about that as
2:04:01
John C Dvorak: the Mark Twain award for humor going to be
2:04:04
kicked off and change to something else? Oh,
2:04:06
Adam Curry: you know what? That's a good idea.
2:04:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's about time. Time. We need to get ready
2:04:11
to accept the award must be a racist. Yep. Yep. Yep. Clearly.
2:04:17
Adam Curry: I had interesting continuing advertising war going
2:04:23
on between the pharmaceutical companies. I'd like to play
2:04:28
these two. As you know, Eli Lilly has decided for their
2:04:33
death bound, I'm sorry, zip bound a product that they will
2:04:37
go direct to consumer. I think they even purchased a telehealth
2:04:42
outfit to do this. I'm not sure. But it doesn't really matter
2:04:47
because telehealth is, I mean, we saw this the rise of
2:04:51
telehealth during COVID and all you need is just for some dude
2:04:56
to say you know some doctor dude, I think can just be a
2:04:59
provider. under whatever you can be an RN, or you can just say
2:05:03
yeah, yeah, looks like you just go through a couple of questions
2:05:07
online, and then they say will prescribe it to you. So, NBC had
2:05:13
the pro Eli Lilly ad, which is couched as a new
2:05:18
Unknown: story, both ozempic and Manjaro are drugs for treating
2:05:21
diabetes but also used off label for weight loss would go V and
2:05:25
zap bound are now the approved versions up to two drugs.
2:05:28
Adam Curry: There you go. There's a discrediting of the
2:05:30
competitor that oh, they're they're off label that you don't
2:05:33
want to use the most popular drug everyone in the categories
2:05:37
known as ozempic. Yeah, this off label, you really want to have
2:05:41
the approval address bound Do you want deskbound approved
2:05:44
Unknown: to drugs specifically intended for fighting obesity.
2:05:48
But as Lynn discovered securing a prescription for any of these
2:05:51
drugs can be a challenge. Eli Lilly CEO Dave Rick says his
2:05:56
company is now trying to change that.
2:05:59
I think a lot of people think of obesity as an issue of
2:06:02
willpower. It's not you know, 40% of adult Americans have
2:06:06
excess weight or obesity. That's a big number. From here you can
2:06:10
the
2:06:11
pharmaceutical giant today launching Lilly direct a website
2:06:14
where patients can find a doctor in person or via telehealth who
2:06:18
can if appropriate, prescribe certain medicines among them set
2:06:21
bound, which can then ship directly to the patient's door.
2:06:25
Obviously there going to be questions from people about
2:06:28
safety about oversight. Can you explain the role of physicians
2:06:33
and just health care professionals and this is a
2:06:35
critical
2:06:35
part of how the site works. And these drugs need to be used
2:06:38
under the supervision of a physician. And we're just
2:06:41
offering more choice in that regard.
2:06:43
Are these independent physicians, will they get any
2:06:46
kind of incentives for prescribing southbound or your
2:06:49
drugs? How does that relationship look?
2:06:51
Yeah, key question. There is no relate financial relationship
2:06:54
between us and the physicians or the online telehealth platforms.
2:06:58
In clinical trials patients taking that mound lost 21% of
2:07:02
their body weight approved by the FDA in November Wall Street
2:07:06
analysts expected to bring in billions of dollars in sales
2:07:09
this year. All
2:07:10
Adam Curry: right. So we need to combat this. As Novo Nordisk we
2:07:14
can't have this these guys a weaseling. In we pioneered this.
2:07:19
This is bigger than the whole. Yes. So if the curry Devorah
2:07:23
Consulting Group, we're asked to have a counter campaign and with
2:07:27
focus on television and we need some online components. What do
2:07:32
you think the
2:07:33
John C Dvorak: we should do? Find someone who died from the
2:07:35
other product?
2:07:37
Adam Curry: Well, that would be great, but we don't want to
2:07:38
discredit the whole sector. We want to make people afraid of
2:07:44
online online. Oh, if that that's a good strategy. Yeah.
2:07:48
And I am telling you, why don't we get Sharon Osbourne because
2:07:53
she had such success with our product. Let's have her do a
2:07:57
slick slickly edited and produced mini show where she can
2:08:05
discredit everything that's comes from online and just make
2:08:08
sure you use ozempic which is sheet which she use and look at
2:08:11
her she's a skinny as a rail.
2:08:14
Unknown: With so many people turn into ozempic for weight
2:08:17
loss. It's Danish Manufacturer launched we go V A near
2:08:21
identical job approved specifically for weight loss.
2:08:24
The NHS has recently approved us use here in the UK, but there's
2:08:28
no strict rules on how doctors prescribe it, including
2:08:31
crucially ensuring patients make lifestyle changes to
2:08:35
generally if you have a BMI of 35, which is you know above
2:08:39
being obese, or you can have a BMI of around 30 Plus have a
2:08:45
couple of health related issues such as high blood pressure,
2:08:49
high cholesterol levels, was
2:08:52
having this criteria is important. It doesn't make
2:08:55
doctor is worried that people who really want to get their
2:08:57
hands on it will seek to buyers and pick or we go V without
2:09:00
medical supervision on the black market, black
2:09:03
market will become frustrated, they will find a way around it.
2:09:07
And that has now developed the black markets for these
2:09:12
unverified untested compounds and are claimed to be some
2:09:17
people have become malnourished become very sick, you need
2:09:19
supervision by a qualified healthcare professional a
2:09:22
doctor.
2:09:24
The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency
2:09:27
recently launched a campaign warning about the online sale of
2:09:31
counterfeit medicines including weight loss injections, being
2:09:34
able to get access to these weight loss drugs off
2:09:37
prescription could have serious consequences, not least for
2:09:40
those with eating disorders.
2:09:43
So we know that people with eating disorders who are often
2:09:47
obsessed about losing weight, they'll try anything, and we'll
2:09:50
find it far too easy to find the jobs online.
2:09:54
From the people I've spoken with today, you realize that these
2:09:58
drugs can be very helpful. food to people who want to lose
2:10:02
weight. But they can have very serious consequences if used in
2:10:06
the wrong circumstances. They're easy to get ahold of online and
2:10:10
it's worrying that counterfeit jabs are available on the black
2:10:13
market too.
2:10:15
Adam Curry: So they've introduced black market online
2:10:18
counterfeit get rid of the compounding. You need to do this
2:10:22
officially do this the proper way people do it like Sharon,
2:10:26
who looks like death warmed over. She I'm sorry, she does
2:10:30
not look good.
2:10:32
John C Dvorak: I'm sure when she looks in the mirror she
2:10:34
disagrees with you.
2:10:36
Adam Curry: And I remember her as this Roly Poly meal. British
2:10:40
housewife in 1988. Now, I mean it's unhealthy the way she looks
2:10:47
really is as well that
2:10:48
John C Dvorak: anorexics keep seeing themselves as too fat
2:10:53
that yeah, someday I don't even brain when you look at yourself,
2:10:56
you go home still too fat.
2:10:58
Adam Curry: It's horrible. I mean, it's a horrible disease.
2:11:02
The mental disease so anyway, we do have a Hail Mary from the
2:11:10
French you know McCrone is just not cutting the mustard. No one
2:11:15
likes him. He's making all the wrong moves. And so they need to
2:11:19
bring in a fresh young face. Well, France
2:11:21
Unknown: now has a new prime minister and a young one that's
2:11:24
34 year old Gabrielle Atal, the former education minister is now
2:11:28
the youngest Prime Minister in recent French history. He's also
2:11:32
the first one to be openly gay is going to replace Elizabeth
2:11:36
bone who resigned Monday after almost two years in the job. Now
2:11:40
that cabinet reshuffle had been in the works for some time now.
2:11:44
Across hoping to give new momentum to the last three years
2:11:47
of his presidency that have been rocked by a series of
2:11:49
controversial moves over pensions and immigration.
2:11:53
Adam Curry: There you go. Yeah, he's he's 34 years old, young
2:11:57
guy, handsome guy. First one to be openly gay. Like we'd like
2:12:02
that's important to know. Yeah.
2:12:08
John C Dvorak: I think they have to say that otherwise somebody
2:12:10
will bring it out. So it's, they've been trained to keep it
2:12:12
a secret. Hey, I got some podcasting ads.
2:12:19
Adam Curry: Oh, where did you get these from?
2:12:22
John C Dvorak: I Heart Radio.
2:12:24
Adam Curry: Now I Heart Radio is the one that's not bankrupt.
2:12:26
Right. That's Odyssey Odyssey who are $2 billion in the hole.
2:12:34
Somehow. It's easy to first of all, they they borrow the money
2:12:38
to buy CBS Radio. That's that's where the debt comes from. And
2:12:44
then they started all kinds of they bought podcast companies.
2:12:48
That wasn't for billions of dollars, but they bought podcast
2:12:51
companies and the advertising market is running over. They're
2:12:54
going to tick tock they're running away from radio. It's
2:12:57
still still a big industry, but it's hard. It's hard to make
2:13:00
that work. It's expensive.
2:13:03
John C Dvorak: Compared we have the letter from the guy that has
2:13:05
the Tick Tock experience you want to read? Yeah,
2:13:09
Adam Curry: I actually do. Well, what he was saying you mean the
2:13:15
the guy who said that tick tock is filled with the State
2:13:18
Department piece, spooks spooks yeah
2:13:21
John C Dvorak: American spoon that's why
2:13:23
Adam Curry: it hasn't gone away the enter enter the whole Johns
2:13:26
Hopkins lady yeah bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs
2:13:32
Mariola Janek. As she's a tick tock there's a whole bunch of I
2:13:37
put the link in the show notes people look at State
2:13:40
Department's Office of human rights and humanitarian affairs.
2:13:44
There's just lots of lots of spooks in there they finally got
2:13:47
smart that's what you want to do.
2:13:49
John C Dvorak: Is shut it down Stop Why growing up
2:13:54
Adam Curry: I love tick tock I
2:13:55
John C Dvorak: mean not that I watch it but I think it's yours
2:13:58
condemning me for pulling tick tock clips that's why I love it
2:14:02
now you love it now you change it
2:14:04
Adam Curry: I love it because you pull those nutty clips we
2:14:07
have an end of show mix from your last one even here
2:14:10
John C Dvorak: we go with I think the political one pod I
2:14:15
know you can play with I got three of them and you do not say
2:14:17
pod
2:14:18
Adam Curry: can you just say it no I put pod on I know the clip.
2:14:21
It's triggering me
2:14:23
John C Dvorak: kill you in your pod. Okay, I don't I don't like
2:14:28
using it but I use it to to make a shorter name for the clip.
2:14:32
Okay, just as circumvention. Okay pod add politics for pop.
2:14:38
Unknown: And this is profit from the politics for profit podcast
2:14:40
and this what we do here we take all these highfalutin political
2:14:43
ideas and things in the news and explain it to you in a language
2:14:47
that we all speak and just like I don't know take filibuster
2:14:49
Believe it or not, you already know what that is. Because if
2:14:51
you've got a mama that don't play no games, you can
2:14:53
filibuster and your whole life. Hey, Mom, no, listen, listen,
2:14:56
listen, mom's before you make your decision. What happened was
2:14:59
there Everything said after that is filibuster you just trying to
2:15:02
stall her out to avoid the inevitable Congress do it all
2:15:04
the time. See you already knew. So listen to her politics we're
2:15:07
probably on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you
2:15:11
get your podcasts.
2:15:12
Adam Curry: Okay, so no I would say go listen to Jen Brian
2:15:15
instead. What is what is her podcast again? What is Jim briny
2:15:20
once congressional congressional dish if you want to learn stuff
2:15:24
like that and and get a very good insight into the political
2:15:29
process the United States, then that's the podcast not this. Yo
2:15:34
Mama. I'm not gonna like what is that? No, no, that was dumb.
2:15:37
Okay, next one. I'm
2:15:39
John C Dvorak: sure nobody listens to it. Okay, let's go
2:15:42
with victory light another podcast.
2:15:44
Unknown: Yo, what's up this is about to get married to human
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2:15:58
all time. I got some friends with me. Victory light is a
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flower. So get your cup ready, because it's about the runneth
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over. You can listen to victory light on the iHeartRadio app.
2:16:09
Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
2:16:13
Adam Curry: What is this podcast about?
2:16:16
John C Dvorak: I have no idea I was greatest the greatest of all
2:16:19
time.
2:16:19
Adam Curry: Well, it's not so goodbye. All right, I'm
2:16:22
John C Dvorak: sure it's this get away from the these guys and
2:16:27
go to this one. This is like the village of nothing much. This is
2:16:32
a this goes the other extreme of podcasting.
2:16:36
Unknown: Tune in to the new podcast stories on the village
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, I have a suggestion when you while you're
2:17:11
listening to this podcast, do it in the bath. And then bring in
2:17:15
the toaster.
2:17:17
John C Dvorak: Please the architect of cozy Oh man.
2:17:24
Adam Curry: Oh, brother, brother, brother, you know,
2:17:26
that's not what the kids want. What the kids want what the boys
2:17:29
want. They want only fans. Have you seen the money that these
2:17:37
only fans models claim claim to be making?
2:17:42
John C Dvorak: I think they're probably making close to
2:17:44
whatever they're saying they're making. I'm not
2:17:46
Adam Curry: gonna disagree $52 million in three years this one
2:17:51
thing where it was it was this. MC now has an AI version. And
2:17:57
the AI version will do
2:17:58
John C Dvorak: as she could she could afford to buy an AI
2:18:00
company. This is better than hooking? Yes.
2:18:05
Adam Curry: It's but it's so it's so destructive for young
2:18:09
men. Is this really apparent? I mean, we used to have to go out
2:18:13
into the in the woods and we hit our magazine. And we put it in a
2:18:17
plastic bag and put it under leaves.
2:18:20
John C Dvorak: remember doing that? What would you go on? what
2:18:24
else what else? You're going to go into that fish? Well, that's
2:18:27
all
2:18:28
Adam Curry: we had. But that was it. And we had and we shared one
2:18:30
magazine. Look at it. Oh man. Look at this now. Now. I'm kids
2:18:35
are blowing their lunch money on this stuff. Stop it. Yeah,
2:18:40
especially the AI version.
2:18:42
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's just dumb. Yeah, but
2:18:46
Adam Curry: this is what it's become. I mean, and of course it
2:18:51
starts because parents are putting their kids on the
2:18:54
screens at an earlier an earlier age. In fact, America's most
2:18:58
trusted and favorite doctor had a bit about this on ABC. Good
2:19:00
Morning, America.
2:19:01
Unknown: All right, let's talk to America's favorite doctor,
2:19:03
shall we? Of course. Alright,
2:19:04
let's talk about this new study to take a look at how screentime
2:19:07
can impact the sensory development of toddlers. What do
2:19:10
we need? Yeah, so this just published in the journal JAMA
2:19:12
Pediatrics gonna get the attention of anyone with a small
2:19:15
child or a baby. Let me take you through the findings. They did a
2:19:19
review of sensory processing data. I'll go into what that
2:19:22
means in a second from about 1500 children ages one through
2:19:26
three, what they found, basically an association not
2:19:30
cause and effect between the amount of screen time and their
2:19:33
odds of having a sensory processing difference at 12
2:19:37
months they had twice the odds of a sensory processing
2:19:40
difference. When they tested these children around for at 18
2:19:43
months for each additional hour. That odds rate went up by about
2:19:47
23% by two years of age, every hour increase the odds by about
2:19:52
20%. According to the Academy of Pediatrics, we have to be
2:19:56
crystal clear. Zero screen time of any kind for babies under the
2:20:02
age of 12 months, when you're talking about 18 to 24 months of
2:20:05
age, they're limiting it to one hour. And it has to be quality
2:20:11
as well as quantity they're keeping an eye on so shared
2:20:15
screen time. And what they're watching makes as much of a
2:20:18
difference is how much
2:20:19
I'm not gonna lie. This like sent me into a whole panic,
2:20:22
because I have a chance to hold at home. And there's really I
2:20:24
mean, some days there's like nothing you correct except for
2:20:27
Cara here. Can we please have the right to do something and
2:20:30
keep you safe?
2:20:31
You are right. It should not be a guilt shaming issue, because
2:20:35
sometimes you don't have another choice. No,
2:20:37
you're on your own and you're stuck. Challenging,
2:20:42
John C Dvorak: yes. What is the I missed the premise?
2:20:50
Adam Curry: The premises stop using screens? Yeah.
2:20:54
John C Dvorak: I understand that. That's that's the goal.
2:20:56
The premise what what is it doing to them? That's negative.
2:21:00
They said something about it causes something and I don't
2:21:03
know what they're talking about.
2:21:06
Adam Curry: sensory processing issues. What does that mean? As
2:21:09
mean? That they can't, that they're so sucked into the
2:21:13
screen that they don't understand how to process the
2:21:17
real world with their senses.
2:21:21
John C Dvorak: We find that hard to believe. Oh, John,
2:21:23
Adam Curry: it's so bad. It's so bad. These kids in school they
2:21:28
get ill I
2:21:29
John C Dvorak: know the kids in school. They're on the screen
2:21:31
too much they get out but they can't walk or what they can't
2:21:34
do. They can't they walk in his balance.
2:21:37
Adam Curry: Walking is not one of the five senses. They have
2:21:40
sensory processing mill. They have issues with comprehending
2:21:44
speech. They have issues. Yeah, with all kinds of stuff. Of
2:21:48
course, this is bad.
2:21:50
John C Dvorak: Look, I'm not saying it's good. Okay. I just
2:21:53
wonder what the premise is. I'm skeptical of what the premise
2:22:00
that they can't walk, talk, smell, they can't feel right.
2:22:04
Well,
2:22:05
Adam Curry: it probably would have been better. They said your
2:22:06
kid will become retarded, that would have been better that that
2:22:09
makes more sense. That would have been the way to go. And
2:22:11
with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning
2:22:13
to you the man who put the sea in chris Christie's hot mic, say
2:22:17
hello to my friend on the other end, the One Only Mr. John Cena
2:22:23
John C Dvorak: was read in Korean Memorial ships and sea
2:22:25
boosts underground feet in the air fish in the air subs in the
2:22:27
water and days and nights out there in the
2:22:29
Adam Curry: morning to the plugs falling out of the air. Hello
2:22:32
there. Trolls Good to have you all aboard. was hard. I saw a
2:22:39
couple of really small ones scurrying away. 1819 8019. For
2:22:45
today's count, how are we on that? 89?
2:22:48
John C Dvorak: That's right on the money.
2:22:49
Adam Curry: It's pretty good, right? Yeah, yeah. Do you know
2:22:52
that 42% of the listeners of the no agenda podcast, listen to all
2:22:59
of it. 62% listened to half of it. The other ones that are
2:23:05
going to be voted off the island first, obviously. That's
2:23:09
actually those numbers are not that bad, actually for three,
2:23:12
three hour podcast. This is where you have a response.
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I think is great.
2:23:24
Adam Curry: I did I did a test on the Norwegian social. I had a
2:23:29
poll, I use the polling feature. And I said how many people are
2:23:34
here on no agenda social. Listen to the show. And I and the end
2:23:42
the poll was the poll was irrelevant. Because the question
2:23:47
I had what I have, I had, let me see what my poll was. The okay,
2:23:54
I had four to eight times a month, about two times a month.
2:23:59
And sometimes. So sometimes had 7% about two times a month had
2:24:05
4% and four to eight times a month. 89% But that's not why I
2:24:10
did the poll. I wanted to see how many people would respond.
2:24:16
Now we have 10,000 people on norgine The social how many
2:24:18
people do you think responded to with an answer at all?
2:24:22
John C Dvorak: Any old poll but 100 Maybe now please? 500?
2:24:27
Adam Curry: Who in my mind, that means that we only have 5% of
2:24:30
the people on no agenda social actually care?
2:24:34
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't think people would look I would
2:24:36
say what you've got is 500 People that at that moment in
2:24:40
that that slice of time, we're online most of you are just
2:24:45
hanging there we just all the time. 10,000 people on line No,
2:24:49
it's not gonna be that I think that numbers I was I guessed 100
2:24:54
Adam Curry: Do you think it's a good number?
2:24:55
John C Dvorak: I think it's a great number.
2:24:57
Adam Curry: Oh, man, how can I discredit this if it's a good
2:24:59
night mber
2:25:01
John C Dvorak: wow where do you want to discredit it? Just
2:25:04
Adam Curry: every is everybody. Everybody who's posting memes
2:25:09
basically just trying to discredit meme posting.
2:25:13
John C Dvorak: You're just a meme hater.
2:25:15
Adam Curry: Bad memes and that's what most of them are.
2:25:18
John C Dvorak: No not the ones I use the years of the worst. No
2:25:21
they're not What do you mean the worst one my memes are picked.
2:25:26
They're selected from selected they're selected out of
2:25:30
selections of selections okay our stair Psych was like panning
2:25:34
for gold well let's get to go through the sluice and then you
2:25:38
get to a golden nugget at the very end and that's where I'm
2:25:40
posting requesting the nuggets.
2:25:42
Adam Curry: Okay, so your nugget is when Breyers did this
2:25:47
Democrats did this so spare me your bullshit. Wow, John, that
2:25:51
was dynamite. Next one. If you want me to trust the science and
2:25:54
stop telling me this is a man this is a woman this is an
2:25:57
expert. This is healthy. You think that's Oh, I will those
2:26:01
John C Dvorak: are the ones online I'm talking about the
2:26:03
ones I use in the newsletter weekly
2:26:05
Adam Curry: mean blast. You have John Bolton with a woman's hair
2:26:09
Nikki Haley hair I guess this is this is a waste of storage space
2:26:14
a waste of bandwidth. There you go. Now your waste of
2:26:17
intelligence.
2:26:20
John C Dvorak: Hey, by the way, did you get the birthday? Cuz I
2:26:22
just noticed that yesterday sent an extra note in Yeah, the one
2:26:25
that you told me to get? No, the the one that she just sent in
2:26:29
her cell from for Angela dis Acero. There's another
2:26:33
Adam Curry: one. Yeah, this wait, that's the one that I put
2:26:36
in there, isn't it? Let me check. Let me check. Where's my
2:26:45
birthdays?
2:26:48
John C Dvorak: She has a new note.
2:26:50
Adam Curry: No, ha No, I don't have this.
2:26:53
John C Dvorak: Will I try? I'm telling you so you can put it in
2:26:55
rather?
2:26:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, but this is where I'm sorry. Okay. All
2:26:57
right. Well, how does this stuff? Oh, she just missed it.
2:27:01
She slack and this is how it starts.
2:27:04
John C Dvorak: This is how it started. They emailed three
2:27:06
shows ago. And she she's of the opinion that she can do this.
2:27:11
And yeah, no,
2:27:12
Adam Curry: I know what you're saying. Yeah, exactly the same
2:27:14
note of saying the stuff we always say don't do it because
2:27:17
it always fails. Yeah,
2:27:19
John C Dvorak: it's a fail. It's, it's a potential for
2:27:22
failure.
2:27:24
Adam Curry: So trolls, good to have you here. I love you all. I
2:27:27
do. I love the troll rooms my favorite place. I love it when
2:27:30
people troll away. That's great. It's fantastic. Do all the
2:27:33
trolling you want please do it at troll room.io no agenda
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Give that give that Apple a shot. It's really good. The new
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Today on the Tom Woods podcast.
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John C Dvorak: You did Tom woods today. I did it on
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Adam Curry: Monday and he dropped it as the kids say he
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dropped it today.
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John C Dvorak: He dropped it in competition with our show.
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Adam Curry: He was supposed to drop it yesterday. Yeah. He was
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very complimentary. Rude. He was very complimentary about the
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show. I didn't have to prompt or anything. He
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John C Dvorak: obviously did some log rolling.
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Adam Curry: Pod rolling. Ah, I can't believe I said he used
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pod. I did. That was a fun little chat. Remember to use
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give money to us Tom
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John C Dvorak: Well, thanks boys.
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Adam Curry: He's got his own thing going on. He's valued for
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value in a way I mean, he's not open ended like is
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John C Dvorak: he the one with the mug club. Now that's
2:29:31
Crowder.
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Adam Curry: Now Tom you know Tom's a Mises Institute guy and
2:29:35
you know so yeah,
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John C Dvorak: these these Hayek maniac? Yes,
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Adam Curry: but I like him. He has he has also in the death
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metal Did you know that? He's in the death metal death metal
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Yeah. Like hardcore death metal. That's what he likes. He goes to
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concerts. Keith
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John C Dvorak: put them together with usually we should have our,
2:29:57
our our boy on the show,
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Adam Curry: which One
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John C Dvorak: blueberry pre show, guy. I don't know why his
2:30:09
name is eluding me. Darren. Darren yeah Darren O'Neal. From
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Adam Curry: now on to be known as our pre show guy. There you
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go Darren. Great show. Hey
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John C Dvorak: guys, I get I get old. I'm old. I'm in my 70s
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years. birthday coming up. I get older. I don't know what to do
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Adam Curry: years and years of reverse it. We salute you. Our
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pre show guy. Yes, right. I appreciate that guy. Everybody.
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John C Dvorak: Well together show think of this show.
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Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Yes. Well, we also want to thank what are
2:30:42
those people call to make pretty pictures for the show.
2:30:46
John C Dvorak: artists, artists.
2:30:49
Adam Curry: The artists who deliver us time and talent in
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return for the value they received from the show some also
2:30:56
give us treasure and donate which we love. We always want to
2:30:59
thank and highlight the artists that brought us the artwork for
2:31:03
the previous episode. Now we had a new word deputy Terry, that
2:31:06
was the title of the show of 1623. And the art was from
2:31:10
Francisco skata manga, who we hadn't seen for a hot minute
2:31:15
he's back and there were a lot of thematic pieces of art. But
2:31:21
Francisco really brought it home with the with the huge alien.
2:31:25
The Miami cop car, had the shopping bags with 33 on it. And
2:31:31
I can now go to the no agenda Art Generator, which is fast.
2:31:34
Thank you, Sir Paul couture, he probably put like some cluster
2:31:37
on it. He was tired of complaining about complaining.
2:31:41
And he's like, how does it work? Now, boys? Yeah,
2:31:44
John C Dvorak: he was irked about the fact that he had to do
2:31:47
this extra work
2:31:48
Adam Curry: fast is fast. I love it is beautiful.
2:31:52
John C Dvorak: At least it's 10 times faster just noticeably.
2:31:54
It's great.
2:31:55
Adam Curry: I really is great. I love it. So we chose we picked
2:31:59
this
2:31:59
John C Dvorak: art you should take Why did we pick this art?
2:32:02
Adam Curry: Well, I
2:32:03
John C Dvorak: remember Okay, tell me
2:32:05
Adam Curry: I don't remember.
2:32:06
John C Dvorak: Because it's Scaramanga does a real art.
2:32:09
Yeah, it's not AI. Everything else was a I could see it all
2:32:14
over the place. Pretty much. You in particular course. Yeah. We
2:32:18
agreed on the on this piece because it's, it's like real
2:32:22
art. Just like he spent a few minutes doing drawing out these
2:32:26
characters. This wasn't done by AI from what we can tell if it
2:32:29
was in this? We don't think so. No. Well, and but everything
2:32:33
else all the other aliens that we saw on here were all aliens.
2:32:37
It's
2:32:38
Adam Curry: not so much that, you know, I'm not against tools
2:32:40
like AI and be Photoshop is it has AI in it. But that stuff it
2:32:46
does. You can you could arguably call that AI. But the AI art
2:32:51
like, you know comics or Blogger we've chosen once or twice and
2:32:54
he just goes off the road. Look at all the pretty swirly colors.
2:32:59
John C Dvorak: But he also had a competitor was scary mangas
2:33:02
piece which is aliens in the mall, which was clearly AI.
2:33:07
Yeah. And it was it didn't have any team that we've discussed it
2:33:11
had no, there's no soul.
2:33:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, soulless, soulless and flawless.
2:33:17
appreciated what Schwartz swaddle had done, which was some
2:33:22
frightening drawing of some guy with a gay you had a thing for
2:33:26
this piece spun up spinach is what it was called. Yeah, well,
2:33:31
because it was clearly hand drawn with crayons. I don't know
2:33:34
what it was done with. That's interesting. I'm seeing some
2:33:39
other pieces that I didn't see before. Did we see I guess we
2:33:43
didn't see the you know, we had a lot of planes with doors and
2:33:47
phones falling out. It's hard to do. art that is humorous. Now,
2:33:53
it's, it's subtle. I don't think AI just doesn't have humor. Now
2:33:59
that's not baked in as
2:34:00
John C Dvorak: possible.
2:34:02
Adam Curry: Well, not according to Sam Altman.
2:34:06
John C Dvorak: I haven't seen any AI that's, that's hilarious.
2:34:09
Yeah.
2:34:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, it may be That's it. Maybe AI doesn't
2:34:14
understand the concept of humor.
2:34:17
John C Dvorak: And how could it because it can't understand and
2:34:20
understand implies a certain human trait. So basically, I
2:34:25
can't possibly have so it's even
2:34:27
Adam Curry: worse than a two year old on a screen.
2:34:31
John C Dvorak: That's pretty much it is a two year old on the
2:34:33
screen Exactly.
2:34:36
Adam Curry: What we liked it was titled et needs new vinyl. It
2:34:39
was a good piece. Francisco Scaramanga. We liked it was very
2:34:43
good.
2:34:43
John C Dvorak: We should mention that Dame Kenny Ben won the
2:34:45
competition last year.
2:34:47
Adam Curry: Oh, she was the top artists for all of 2023 Yeah,
2:34:51
and
2:34:51
John C Dvorak: we've decided we get them out of my pocket. Yes,
2:34:54
you and I largely decided before some time. This
2:34:58
Adam Curry: is this is why People should listen to the
2:35:01
donation segment. We
2:35:03
John C Dvorak: are going to send her says we had the diploma
2:35:06
template for the PhD. We're going to send her a Master of
2:35:11
Fine Arts degree. Wow four album art design exclusive
2:35:16
Adam Curry: only one in existence. Yeah.
2:35:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, it's because we came late to the I
2:35:22
mean, whoever I don't even know who won the year before before
2:35:26
before. But she gets the first one but it does. We'll continue
2:35:30
to do this as we go on. And I'm wanting to give one I also a
2:35:35
Master of Fine Arts for website design, to
2:35:40
Adam Curry: two who don't spell couture. How would this is
2:35:44
interesting. How about we do degrees for podcasting? Instead
2:35:49
of awards? We give them masters we give them PhDs and certain
2:35:53
topics.
2:35:55
John C Dvorak: Now there's a I'm not gonna start giving, we're
2:35:58
giving these away to people who have contributed to the show to
2:36:00
an extreme Dame Kenny, Ben has contributed to the show and so
2:36:04
as Darren for that matter and some of these other people this
2:36:07
is a this is just a reward for their contributions not because
2:36:12
we think somebody's podcast is good, I just
2:36:14
Adam Curry: thought would be cool to have a PhD and pre show
2:36:17
dude Innes. Thank you very much.
2:36:23
John C Dvorak: You know, PhD and douchebaggery
2:36:27
Adam Curry: you're gonna give me that? Is it on the way is it in
2:36:29
the mail as a comment is
2:36:30
John C Dvorak: as a matter of fact, now that you got got you
2:36:32
figured it out? Thank
2:36:34
Adam Curry: you very much. Francisco skata manga thank you
2:36:36
to all of the artists who diligently are there during the
2:36:40
live show. Doodling Raha Oh, I thought I was gonna sneeze it
2:36:48
didn't come.
2:36:50
John C Dvorak: So your sounds like you went off the air.
2:36:53
Unknown: What it felt like
2:36:56
Adam Curry: almost happened his damn cedar. Thank you. Oh, no
2:37:00
agenda are generated.com Thank you, Sir Paul couture for making
2:37:03
it lickety split. And nice and fast. Thank you damn, Kenny, Ben
2:37:06
for being the number one for 2023. We'll see how it goes for
2:37:10
2024. We appreciate all of you. Because that's how value for out
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If you're not dangerous the douchebag
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John C Dvorak: eventually they're going to get it everyone
2:37:57
else will get a clue that we're doing it right.
2:38:00
Adam Curry: Now, I don't know if we'll still be around. But yeah,
2:38:02
eventually someone will figure this out. Yeah. Now let's thank
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Hampshire came in with a computer number 1024 is not a
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isn't that a megabytes or kilobytes kilobytes
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John C Dvorak: exactly what it is.
2:38:41
Adam Curry: And he says one kilo dollar for the best podcast long
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enjoyed the show and now the mastodon community he is text
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pipe to exp IP no jingles I'd like to be known as Sir render
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of the granite town as I've been involved in GPU chip design
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since oh six.
2:39:01
John C Dvorak: Wow. Well, that's interesting. Does he work for an
2:39:04
Nvidia?
2:39:05
Adam Curry: I wonder maybe he'll let us know Well, thank you. We
2:39:08
appreciate
2:39:10
John C Dvorak: AMD has some chip designers are GPU guys to that
2:39:14
could be a boon. I'd like to know James Morin. Meanwhile,
2:39:18
from Jackson, California. Nice little mining town. 33333. No,
2:39:23
no, just karma. So give him a double up. No.
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, you've got karma. And then we move on
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to Frank born from Milton, Georgia. My Uber ride
2:39:40
verification code was 0033. I knew that while I'm not a
2:39:45
douchebag it was time I was approaching Boehner status time
2:39:49
to donate. And He says he'd liked the jingles. There's no
2:39:54
real conflict. He'd like That's true. And to to the head plus To
2:40:01
the head plus a Yech karma and he says means roll sure there's
2:40:06
no real conflict oops Hold on a second. We had a misfire on the
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to karma ego sir. You've
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the road 333 And he says donations well overdue please
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Adam Curry: you very much sir cow. There he is sir. Kyle of
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John C Dvorak: go blue is the Michigan Wolverines
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Adam Curry: and we congratulate them. Right?
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John C Dvorak: I do. Go Blue
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Adam Curry: sir Kyle of lavender blossoms.org Definitely check
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John C Dvorak: Good man. Rob Moreira is Salem New Hampshire.
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233 91 ITM rob from Salem, New Hampshire My birthday is landing
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on a showdown I'm turning 33 So I knew I had to donate. This is
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my second donation embrace me nearly halfway tonight who it
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might have after my first donation I had received an email
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from a colleague while working for Siemens, who lived in Japan
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by the name of Joshua simmers who had quickly learned was his
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fellow no agenda listener had requested jobs calm at the time
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which worked and now I'm looking for one of their competitors and
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I'm working for one of their competitors for jingles can I
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get it don't come I'm going to come that sounds pretty good and
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relationship current because clearly I need a girlfriend
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Adam Curry: yes no agenda social Can you can the girls can the
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ladies hit him up over there is yours
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John C Dvorak: do you guys not finding an exit strategy and
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keeping many of us sane and informed throughout 2024 and
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beyond?
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Adam Curry: Rob do not come I'm gonna come I think that sounds
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pretty good. You've got karma. And we are well into the
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Associate Executive Producers short one again today Brandon
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Brown from Amelia Ohio $200 No note Associate Executive
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Adam Curry: Well, there you go. Those are my associate and
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John C Dvorak: Starting with Alex key for from our Vern New
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There's a Davy Crockett National Forest in Texas. I was unaware I
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Adam Curry: Wait a mesa listeners since the days of the
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2006 Mac Mini the show wasn't on then the Oh 2007 Starting seemed
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like a long time now but I appreciate Okay, so from day one
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Adam Curry: that is creative creative.
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John C Dvorak: A six Sir Don and Chandler Arizona 606 which is
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the small boobs donation. I am Jill jaunty in Omaha, Nebraska.
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Adam Curry: Thanks Pay Pal. No,
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John C Dvorak: I have to assume this just some sort of a rebate
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or something for whatever. 5790 Thanks, Pete PayPal. And it
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comes through donation Yeah, anonymous in Bothell,
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still don't know where they are, but they donated $50.05 I
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Adam Curry: want to I want to fill up on some so
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John C Dvorak: ideas Yeah, no supplied. Yeah. Pack
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indeed, reality indeed. And of course, thank
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Adam Curry: you to everyone who came in under $50. We'd love you
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just as much as value for value. So whatever you send back, we
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presume that's exactly what you find the show to be worth and
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that mate $5 may be a lot for you. It may be in 550 may be
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nothing for others, it doesn't matter. This is the how the
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system works. If everybody did it, it would it would be great.
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But unfortunately, that doesn't happen. We don't read any notes
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there we see people with 4999 We will not mention you and thank
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you to those who are on the sustaining donations. Those are
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highly appreciated. And we have a note from Gabe Grider. Now I
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am going to mention him because he has been on a sustaining
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donation he says guys, I can't wait to see you all at the
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roundtable. My latest donation of 3367 completes my
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apprenticeship and should yield me my knighthood. I turned
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John C Dvorak: I wanted to know how much yeah how often that
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turns up. I'd
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Adam Curry: like well let us know by sending a donation let
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us know. I want to make my first donation as executive producer
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my wife donated years ago on our wedding anniversary first call
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me up my douchebag status, but I didn't donate until sir
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Spencer's Are the KC meetups in early 2020. I could not attend
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hood. Thank you to the producers that keep the content flowing
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and the community thriving please nightmares sir Gabe, blue
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collar night of the building trades at the roundtable. I
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would like some top shelf organic pina coladas didn't get
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the top shelf. Well, that would be the rum, right? The penal
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code is a pina coladas just mix. We just have mix. We just have
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some mix and get out the celebratory ak 40 sevens for
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some net pops after the ceremony. I will take a proper D
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douchey. You've been D deuced. And we'd love a peace and love
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karma from my mother merrily as she traverses the end stages of
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Alzheimer's and some travel Connor for myself as I'm on my
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way to Virginia to visit her today. Absolutely. And thank you
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so much roundtable is ready for you. You've got karma Thank you
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all
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John C Dvorak: once guess jobs calm is coming up. Yes,
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Adam Curry: I have the jobs karma right here. Jobs,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
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John C Dvorak: for jobs. Pharma,
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Adam Curry: thank you all once again for supporting the no
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Oh, yeah, we have the amended list. It's all perfect. Michel
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Steinfeld salad was everybody on the seventh we say belated Happy
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Birthday also to Andreea Vargas, who shares a birthday with King
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It's the best podcast in the universe you.
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Don't want to be induced. We have a note from certain
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continued support of the best podcast and universe the no
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So let me get out of my
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John C Dvorak: mind. Oh, that's
2:53:41
Adam Curry: a nice one. I do like I'm on the podium. Scott
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bellick gave writer both of you ready to enter that exclusive
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can see anyone can go there and take a look at the rings.
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They're both for knights and for them they're unisex. unisex.
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That's a term we haven't heard and remember those two unisex
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the ones that fall out of favor. Now what did what was it again?
2:54:45
unisex was this shirt is unisex, unisex? Yes.
2:54:49
John C Dvorak: I think unisex. I think it came out of favor
2:54:52
during that era when they when the term Metro sexual showed up.
2:54:57
Adam Curry: unisex was good long gone unisex when I was a kid I
2:55:01
remember oh this is traumatic. My mom made me wear a purple
2:55:06
dress no a purple see through shirt to school and I was like
2:55:10
six or seven. Oh, that's bad. Yes and don't worry it's unisex
2:55:15
and this is where it all went wrong. Yeah, no agenda rings.com
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Thank you for becoming knights today we appreciate it thank you
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all for supporting us here at the best podcast in the universe
2:55:37
which you can do in so many ways including organizing a meetup
2:55:40
know what
2:55:50
the trolls like that story yes that's what's wrong with Adam
2:55:53
yes indeed to this day the person the purple unisex shirt
2:55:57
John C Dvorak: that's what makes nothing but sense sad
2:56:00
Adam Curry: meet up in Denver as Sir are was bidding a job to the
2:56:04
Denver region. This is sir are
2:56:07
Unknown: here in Denver and I'm signing off from Denver. Look
2:56:11
forward to checking out the North Georgia meetups in
2:56:13
Alpharetta.
2:56:14
This is Corey we're gonna miss sir are here in Denver.
2:56:17
Hopefully he'll bring light to other locations.
2:56:21
As David some say Paul in the morning, so soothsayer here.
2:56:25
Safe travels sir. This
2:56:27
is Colin it's been fun learning about the Adreno Pope. Solutions
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sir are all the best in the morning.
2:56:33
So you dog here wishing sir are all the best in Georgia? In the
2:56:38
morning,
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Colorado. Carebear. Tears again fallen first are our we're gonna
2:56:43
miss you. Cousin
2:56:45
Bo. Yeah, sir. It's great. See around. And John and Linda, the
2:56:51
packing. We just say the sexual tension is gotten too far. If
2:56:56
you Boomers to get a room, we'd all appreciate it. Denver meetup
2:57:01
out.
2:57:02
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Linda has a man named John who knew?
2:57:08
How about that. So Linda IUPAC. And we need a picture. We just
2:57:13
see what she looks like. Thank you, sir, for being there at
2:57:17
that meetup. Thank you. For the Denver meetup report. We always
2:57:19
appreciate those. These are cool things to attend. It cost
2:57:23
nothing. Everyone kind of pays their own way. Sometimes if
2:57:27
you're gonna have a big group, you just go to a bar and say
2:57:29
hey, I'm gonna bring in a lot of people is that cool? Is it Yeah,
2:57:31
and usually you get a personal server and that sort of like the
2:57:35
indie people you know, they they will welcome the no agenda crew
2:57:39
back every single time. It's really a lot of fun. And this is
2:57:43
the community you want we're gonna have a very severe winter
2:57:46
coming up Texas apparently is going to be frozen out again.
2:57:49
I'm glad to have the generator. You know, good never gonna use
2:57:52
it, you know, never happened. But just in case you in your
2:57:55
whatever happens, whatever it goes down, locked down.
2:57:58
John C Dvorak: If you didn't get the generator, you'd be in
2:58:00
trouble. This is just like getting your car wash just
2:58:02
before it's Yes, exactly. By the way, just just change the
2:58:06
subject or not change this. To go back to your thing. I did an
2:58:10
engram view using Google Books on unisex is is a term that
2:58:17
showed up around 1964 Right when I was born, that skyrocketed and
2:58:23
peaked around 1980 Wow. And they hit the peak in 1980 and then
2:58:29
dropped like a rock until around 19. Around 1990 Then flattened
2:58:35
flatten the curve. Ah, it's so it's still in play.
2:58:39
Adam Curry: I think we should bring it back.
2:58:42
John C Dvorak: No, why?
2:58:43
Adam Curry: Why not?
2:58:44
John C Dvorak: That it's good. It's still it's still up there.
2:58:47
Now.
2:58:48
Adam Curry: You watch target will soon have unisex clothing
2:58:51
or they already do. Connection is protection. You want to be a
2:58:55
part of these meetups and you can go to the northern Wake
2:58:58
County stitch and bitch. That's today six o'clock at Compass
2:59:03
Rose brewing in Raleigh, North Carolina. So hurry on up. The
2:59:06
arcade party is happening on Saturday in Fredericksburg,
2:59:09
Virginia reclaim arcade 130. Also on Saturday, the Treasure
2:59:13
Valley meet up three o'clock at powder house brewery, Garden
2:59:17
City Idaho. Hutch man as your organizer also on Saturday at
2:59:21
another flight of the no agenda meetup. This has got to be this
2:59:25
number eight is weird. No, it's got to be much higher than that.
2:59:29
He's done. This must be 48 I think what No, maybe it was 38.
2:59:33
Anyway, it's the proud bird Los Angeles, California. Leo Bravo
2:59:36
organizes those. The hui Hui a news meet up for 15 on Saturday
2:59:41
at the newsroom pub in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. No idea
2:59:44
why it's so specific but be there. And the central Ohio
2:59:47
meetup takes place on Saturday at five Dempsey's in Columbus
2:59:51
Ohio. And finally on the next show day Sunday the in the no
2:59:54
agenda New Year's resolution revolt meet up three o'clock at
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Grand Junction brewing in Westfield. Indiana, of course
3:00:01
MNm of the Greenwood will be organizing Mark Maria Sir Mark
3:00:04
de Maria it's great. What we just got the pictures. I think I
3:00:09
sent you one of the pictures didn't I didn't see the link to
3:00:12
all those pictures from
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John C Dvorak: the link of is a Flickr page. Yeah, it's
3:00:15
Adam Curry: a Flickr page. Exactly. Yeah,
3:00:17
John C Dvorak: there you are. But
3:00:18
Adam Curry: I mean did you see how many people were there and
3:00:20
how huge and how beautiful they look? They're all beautiful any
3:00:24
who knew? Who I knew? Because the closer that one guy. Yes,
3:00:29
that one guy unfortunately no agenda meetups go to no agenda
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meetups.com So Daniel put that site together another perfect
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example of value for value so that you can easily schedule
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them and find them find one near you if you can't find one in
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your near vicinity you can't wait to do attend to meet up
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organize one yourself. It's real simple. It's free and of course
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it's always guaranteed a party no agenda meetups.com
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Unknown: with the Dyson days you won't be triggered. You will say
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is like
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Adam Curry: right? Why don't I do mind? Because I can't even
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remember what they are for the ISOs I can't even remember. So
3:01:18
that may not be good.
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Unknown: I have never thought about that.
3:01:24
Adam Curry: No, no. How about this one? We are unimpressed.
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And then we
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Unknown: are 100% not a scam.
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Adam Curry: That quality is too bad.
3:01:38
John C Dvorak: It was kind of good to hear that but yeah,
3:01:40
Adam Curry: I think the best one we are
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Unknown: unimpressed. That's the best. I
3:01:43
John C Dvorak: don't like that either. Shut down or it did.
3:01:46
Adam Curry: It's a bummer. Yeah, you're right. It's
3:01:48
John C Dvorak: about casts aspersions on the show.
3:01:50
Adam Curry: Bad idea. What am I thinking?
3:01:54
John C Dvorak: So let's go with I got a couple. One surefire
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winner but you never know. Silence podcaster silence
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Unknown: the podcasters
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John C Dvorak: silence the podcasters okay, we don't like
3:02:12
that when we do like this one. Wow. Wow.
3:02:15
Unknown: Wow. Yeah, that's
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Adam Curry: the one. That's the one. There's nothing wrong with
3:02:21
that. Nothing at all. Good one. And now it's time for
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Unknown: GC
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Adam Curry: That's right. We're always looking for a good story
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to keep you to tide you over with good cheer and good vibes
3:02:33
and good feelings until the next no agenda show we don't want
3:02:36
anyone to leave depressed at all. It's all just just stories.
3:02:41
People don't worry about it. Your life has not affected your
3:02:43
good. You got your family, you got your friends. And now you
3:02:46
have a good news story. What do we have today, John? So
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John C Dvorak: I took your advice to make something that it
3:02:51
was less about someone almost dying. Yeah, yeah, but I
3:02:54
couldn't find anything super Bunnell, which is I think what
3:02:57
you're looking for, but I found this this is a good news story.
3:03:00
And I'd love the actions is about the moose that was selling
3:03:03
Unknown: tonight a maritime couple is being celebrated for a
3:03:06
keen eye and quick action that led to a most Canadian rescue.
3:03:11
CCTVs Atlanta pickerel picks up the story. So
3:03:14
Lynn Lavoie spends most of her weekends in her side by side
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exploring new brunswick alongside her husband, Claude.
3:03:22
Typically, she rides shotgun, and keeps an eye on everything
3:03:26
Nietzsche has to offer. But even after a lifetime in the
3:03:29
outdoors, this was a first for us. This Sunday brought a brand
3:03:33
new experience when she spotted a moose out on the ice. She
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wasn't
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making any noise or anything like that. She was very quiet,
3:03:40
or young. We got and we looked down. We could tell that she was
3:03:45
just sprawled out on the river like on the ice and could move
3:03:48
so we knew her legs were fine then at that point, but again,
3:03:51
it was just trying to figure out what was the next step. A few
3:03:54
minutes later to peace officers join the couple as they work to
3:03:57
safely get the moose back onto the bank using a ratchet strap
3:04:01
from there side by side. First, we were wondering about the ice
3:04:05
thickness. But then my husband said well, you know that animal
3:04:08
has to be at least 400 pounds. So he says I can go on the ice.
3:04:12
So he asked the police officer to just basically hang on to the
3:04:16
stretch so that if something like if the ice was to break, he
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could pull them back.
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While the entire rescue mission only took about 30 to 40
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minutes. It's an experience that will surely last a lifetime. Now
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I grew
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up in the country so like I see those animals like a lot and
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often enough but I mean it was still surreal to see one
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stranded on the ice but just to see that we were able to get it
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to not to shore but on this on the bank and to kind of give it
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a little pat. You know she'd be on her way it was it was good.
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Alanna picaro CTV News Rogersville New Brunswick.
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Adam Curry: I think any good news story that involves moose
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is always good. I am pro moose and thank you for that. It's But
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it made me feel good. I think you're right. The accents
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really. That gave me the warm feeling.
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Unknown: Good news story from JCD had the vibes for you and me
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and we all feel better now he's done his bit. To back to reality
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that's turning to shoot. That's
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Adam Curry: good news. I have another good news story for you
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on Sunday. And that wraps up our media deconstruction for today.
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do we have here? Oh, yes, we have Steph Jacobson, who takes
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your your trans Tiktok clip and does a number on it. We got Mike
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Peter and to wind it up with our election season which starts now
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rxo rixo on the wheels of steel. Coming to you from the heart of
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the Texas Hill Country in my unisex purple shirt. Here in
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FEMA Region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley we're having
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Unknown: I do wish them luck transposing people because they
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wish death on me would have caused death to many many many
3:06:57
of my brothers and sisters in the trans community I want to
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stab all of you to death as many times as I can. I want to stab
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you in the throat and twisted like carving pumpkins to shreds
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you want to hear your poems from your body I want to pick your
3:07:18
brain so we want to I want to stab all of you to death I want
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to stab you in the throat and twisted like I'm carving a
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pumpkin a good idea
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people call creative bagging and here you can see for half an
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hour we this while never been money no no never been money you
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don't believe me? You can count the decimal credit now everyone
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by free law isn't wanted movie that's why I'll never be money
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No no no never been money to you normally me eating can this
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treasure get a bit on
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so stressed out in election season Sometimes I wish I was
3:08:29
like the majority of the country dividend dimension be and I get
3:08:34
so stressed out in election season. No doubt going off the
3:08:39
deep screens hands up even on the weekend. I can't seem to put
3:08:46
my phone down I could read this tomorrow. No I've got to know
3:08:50
now. What made this movie about I want to miss the scene. I
3:08:54
don't want to slow down every for Halloween I don't even dress
3:08:58
because every for Halloween I become a whole clown. Junkie
3:09:03
addicted to the new cycle. So excited waiting for the next to
3:09:06
roll out man. election season season. I hate myself. So
3:09:11
embarrassing. I become someone else's demons. Somehow this has
3:09:16
got to be detrimental to my health. Adam and John please
3:09:20
save me I feel like the world's trying to drive me crazy twice a
3:09:24
week is good but I could use your daily if nothing else just
3:09:28
during election season because I get so stressed out in election
3:09:32
season. Sometimes I wish I was like a majority of this country
3:09:39
dividend dimension d and I get so stressed out in election
3:09:43
season. No doubt going off the deep greens time, even on the
3:09:51
weekend, and when it's over no matter the conclusion. I will
3:09:55
make a bunch of promises to myself that I probably won't
3:09:58
keep like a New Year's Reza looks like next time I don't
3:10:01
care who was running I'm not gonna do this four years later
3:10:06
at a Sunday service losing my mind listening to Kanye somebody
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that this is the most important election of our lifetime and you
3:10:14
know I'm right back and I will fall victim to election season
3:10:18
just a slave to the system listen in the notes in the break
3:10:21
it down with the never ending wisdom thinking what in this
3:10:24
country gave in said at con ying yang funny thing go worse
3:10:28
durations to be driven driven Trump one that was such a great
3:10:31
tradition. So make the decision to run away from these live long
3:10:35
politicians. I'm already getting so stressed out in election
3:10:39
season. Song songs. I wish I was like the majority of this
3:10:45
country live in in dimension B and I get so stressed out in
3:10:50
election season. No doubt going off the deep end is torturing
3:10:56
must raise hands up even on the weekend.
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boruch.org/in
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Wow. Wow.
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