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John C Dvorak: Why are these
women behind a chain? Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Are they January
18 2024. This Year Award Winning
Combination media assassination
episode 1646. This
Unknown: is no agenda.
Adam Curry: deconstructing Davos
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country
here at FEMA Region number six.
In the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where I advise everyone
to learn how to pickled turnips.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: And this is
important for prepping for the
apocalypse.
John C Dvorak: It's just tasty.
Adam Curry: I believe turnip is
from the mustard family.
John C Dvorak: B s that would
also apply to the rutabaga,
which is the root as referred to
as the Swede. And also what is
the rutabaga is a turnip. Ah, it
actually has a slightly
different flavor, but it's a
turnip. And just as good
pickled,
Adam Curry: and have you been
eating a lot of turnips
recently, this is
John C Dvorak: I made some
pickled turnips and I had one
before the show pickled the turn
of peace. And I decided that
would be my theme for the day
Adam Curry: for breakfast. Is
that how you roll? Like, what
should I have for breakfast? I
think I'll still have some
pickled turnip. I have a lot to
look forward to my old age and
it's gonna be great.
John C Dvorak: It'd be good to
be here. Good to go.
Adam Curry: Ah, hey, my beat is
back. It happens every once I
don't think it's ever is the
World Economic Forum is that
every year in Davos every year
so my beat is back on the beat.
John C Dvorak: Are you referring
to Rachel Maddow?
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's been
great this year. Is no has it?
Oh, yeah. Because well, I can
tell you, I don't want to spoil
it. But the title of the the
theme of this year is it's kind
of apparent. The theme of Davos
or as the Swiss say Davao. But
no one says Davao anymore. No,
it says Delvaux. It's Davos with
Davos. Tons of world leaders
bankers business people, flags
and banners everywhere for Intel
AMD celebrate ease. I don't I
have not seen that many
celebrities this year. Although
the the typical article comes
out as scored businesses are
skyrocketing Hulu
John C Dvorak: 2500 bucks a
night. Oh, is that that's all?
Well to where it says in the
news. Well,
Adam Curry: that seems cheap.
What happened to inflation for
the
John C Dvorak: day, make it up
in volume.
Adam Curry: I'd like to
deconstruct a little bit with
some short clips just to get us
all into the mood. The theme for
this year is restoring trust
world leaders,
Unknown: corporate giants,
giants, academics. They're all
coming together in Davos,
Switzerland today. It's the
start of the 54th World Economic
Forum.
John C Dvorak: Up stopping you
have to give us a little premise
where this clip come from.
Adam Curry: This is CB is just
an intro clip from the CBC. CBC
okay. I mean, I could have
gotten it from anywhere just a
minute intro just to get you
into the vibe just to let you
know what's happening
Unknown: economically. And
security is very tight at the
Swiss ski resort as those
international elites begin to
arrive. Number of key
politicians are going to be
there US Secretary of State
Antony Blinken, Emmanuel Macron,
the French president key Middle
East leaders as well. But it's
the economics of things front
and center. The daunting global
economic forecasts may be of
interest to central bankers,
Mark Carney, the former Bank of
Canada had one of those who's
scheduled to talk today, but to
no real official Canadian
representation in all of this.
The biggest risk we face is that
we lose hope. We lose trust,
trust into our institutions and
particularly trust in our
capability to shape a better
future. Yes,
Adam Curry: trust we are losing
the trust. The funny thing about
that clip he was saying that to
push that guy that Richard, the
guy from CNN who got caught with
meth in his pocket and a dildo
in his boot. Remember that guy
John C Dvorak: from CIA who they
had him his dick tied to a
steering wheel? Yeah, guy.
Adam Curry: I don't remember if
it was exactly that. Richard
Quest Richard Quest. Yeah. So
he's they're interviewing Klaus
Schwab and Klaus Shrivers to us,
we lose. I can't take that guy.
Serious. See anymore?
John C Dvorak: You could take
him seriously before?
Adam Curry: No, I guess not. All
right now into a couple of the
first one is a little longer.
It's a minute of the rest of the
relatively short just to get our
blood pumping. What is the most
important thing? What is this
all about? We had a global risk
report. This is what the theme
is everyone's talking about it.
Enter stage left Queen Ursula of
the European Union's to close.
Unknown: Let me go back to the
number one concern of the global
risk report. This information
and misinformation. tackling
this has been our focus, since
the very beginning of my
mandate, this
Adam Curry: by mandate, this is
the most important thing
disinformation.
Unknown: With our Digital
Services Act. We defined the
responsibilities of large
internet platforms on the
content. They promote and
propagate, propagate a
responsible to children and
vulnerable groups targeted by
hate speech hate speech, that
also have a responsibility to
our societies as a whole. Yes,
because the boundary between
online and offline, is getting
thinner and thinner. And the
values we cherish offline should
also be protected online. But
that's not all. And this is even
more important in this new era
of generative AI generative
Adam Curry: AI now, the
Unknown: world's economic risk
report that puts artificial
intelligence as one of the top
potential risks for the next
decade.
Adam Curry: All right, so that's
that artificial intelligence,
one of the top potential risks
of the next especially that
generic generic motive generic,
the generic narrative I love. I
love the Alright, now a couple
of quickies. This is John Evans
from Alibaba, former Goldman
Sachs we're developing
Unknown: through technology and
ability for consumers to measure
their own carbon footprint.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. That's
where are they traveling? How
are they traveling?
Unknown: What are they eating?
They aren't consuming on the
platform. So individual carbon
footprint
tracker. They tuned we don't
have it operational yet. But
this is something that we're
working on. Yes,
Adam Curry: it'll be
John C Dvorak: just, oh, they're
working on our carbon footprint
tracker, that is great.
Adam Curry: It'll be great
because you can use it for
yourself first, but then I'm
sure they're gonna use it
against you what you eat. We're
tracking your carbon footprint
based on what you eat. So all of
this has a very kind of Nazi
vibe, you know, Uber, Uber
mentioned of Davao. And this
next clip I love to guys trying
desperately to avoid saying New
World Order. This is in fact
this is the World Economic Forum
President Barga Brenda, Klaus is
the chairman I guess, the
founder or co founder, and this
is the President bordiga brand.
And he's sitting there with Jake
Sullivan, another fine specimen.
Listen, listen to how they they
attempt to avoid sounding like
douchebags that order
Unknown: seems to No, no, not be
the order anymore. We are on the
way to a new order. So we are
between the orders. Do you agree
with that? Or are there ways of?
What are we able to keep on the
positive side from the old order
to bring into a new world order?
And how can we avoid that New
World Order becomes like a
jungle growing back. And we
rather have order based on
international law.
Adam Curry: You remember when
New World Order was just a
conspiracy theory, this is
stupid. There's no new world
order. That's all it's Alex
Jones principles
Unknown: that have brought us
prosperity and freedom. For
decades tomorrow, Jake,
I guess, maybe this is the the
old kind of teacher me coming
out. I think of this alternative
more about a transition of eras
rather than a transition to
borders. But the two are kind of
cousins of one another. The
reason I draw the distinction is
because I don't think the
international order built after
1945 is getting replaced
wholesale with new order. It
will obviously as it has evolved
multiple times over the decades
since 1945. But I do think in a
in a more thing, sharp and
distinctive way. We are moving
into a new era. And that's what
I talked about in my remarks
that we are you know, the post
cold war era has come to a
close. We're at the start of
something new. We have the cup
pasady to shape what that looks
like. And at the heart of it
will be many of the core
principles and core institutions
of the existing order adapted
for the challenges that we face
today.
Adam Curry: Imagine spending
1000s of dollars going to Davao
1000s of dollars in hotel and
food expenses and you still have
to stand in line and listen to
these to Jumoke sit there and
New World Order each other. It's
just sad. And then
John C Dvorak: yes, you do I
still love to stand in line.
Yeah. Now
Adam Curry: we know the old war
is peace. Yeah, the the old 1984
We asked Newspeak war is peace.
Well again Stoltenberg of course
the still to be replaced NATO
war monger he was there and he
laid it out perfectly
Unknown: does that if we want
that to happen, a peaceful just
enter this all the way to get
there are more or is more
weapons to Ukraine. Credible we
are in our military support, the
more likely it is that the
diplomats will succeed. So
Adam Curry: to achieve peace, we
need more war. Love it. So there
was a lot of coffee klatch about
social media and X. X is very
bad x x. I guess the the elite
messaging system is so broken,
although I disagree. I think you
and I both agree that it's never
been a better time to spread
disinformation. But these elites
Oh, they're come they're
complaining about it's no good
Unknown: for a long time I was
on Twitter. And now it's become
such a toxic place that I've
concluded it's not nice to spend
time and as you said, it is
exhausting. So you do have to
wake up who is this?
John C Dvorak: Is that Maria?
Adam Curry: No, no, these are
two undefined women in a coffee
clutch about x. Okay, just it's
just a coffee club. You know,
they'll have all these little
panels. Yes, a nude Nick. Nick,
Nick Daniels. Yeah, though
breakout sessions, it's
Unknown: not worthwhile place to
spend time. And as you said, it
is exhausting. So you do have to
pick and choose. And you have to
think about where the places
where you can get your message
across. But I am trying to
figure out I mean, I haven't
given up on X but a scary name.
And I don't know what the
alternative is right now. So
with the person of the social
media, I must say that I have
happened on Twitter, too. So
eex? Because yeah, toxic
environment. We talked about, I
have no solution on that. But I
think one they will come the
moment of code of conduct.
Conduct because journalists,
journalists, if you spread crazy
news and insults, and if you if
a journalist is racist thinks he
can he can be amended. Why? Why
social media is that they have
such big power. We can, because
it's new, but I think we there
will be a societal reflection on
how information is proved there,
of course on also, the policy of
the owner, that is problematic,
but the problem of society of
the future,
Adam Curry: that is the problem
of the society of the future, it
must change. They had a lot of
sessions about changing effects,
and social conduct. And we can't
have this and this is no good of
this not like journalism. And of
course, Bill Gates was there.
Although the bill, he doesn't do
a lot of sessions. He seems to
go on a lot of interview
programs now, which is always
outside. So he's on CNBC and
Yahoo financial news. And this
was I think, some Indian outfit.
And surprise, surprise bill is
selling more vaccines, we make
Unknown: sure that for all these
vaccines, that there's enough
capacity, that there's
competition, so the prices keep
going down. And we will have new
vaccines, we'll have a TB
vaccine, malaria vaccine, HIV
vaccine, and even the things
like COVID vaccines, we need to
make them have longer duration,
more coverage. And we're gonna
change instead of use the needle
to use a little patch. So the
pandemic really highlighted that
we've been under invested in
those innovations. And you know,
our partners in India are part
of how we're going to get these
breakthrough products done.
Adam Curry: So what I hear in
this clip is the long rumored
vaccine patch, which has little
needles and and gives you the
vaccine to a little band aid.
And I also heard that he's going
to test it on Indians,
John C Dvorak: but they want to
get The Indian population so
surpassed China so they gotta
Adam Curry: gotta give him the
patch.
John C Dvorak: You gotta push it
down. Get it back to normal. Get
that good under a billion he
kill off. Hit
Adam Curry: that patch out there
peewee And India is going to
help us yeah going to help us do
this. Thanks. Alright India to
stay standby. Then of course we
have to talk about genocide,
genocide, genocide, genocide,
genocide. Do you know how you
commit genocide, you commit
genocide by fishing and farming,
ecocide
Unknown: as a word is becoming
more, it's becoming better known
around the world. And the
concept is generally mass damage
and destruction of nature. But
Legally speaking, what our
organization and other
collaborators aim to do, is to
have this recognized legally as
a serious crime. Because one of
the issues that sort of pervades
all of this discussion is that
we have a kind of cultural, very
ingrained habit of not taking
damage to nature as seriously as
we take damage to people and
property. And that's, I mean, if
you're campaigning for human
rights, at least, you know, mass
murder, torture, all of these
things are serious crimes, but
there's no equivalent in the
environmental space. And so And
unlike an international crime,
like genocide that didn't
involve a specific intent, with
ecocide, what we see is actually
what people are trying to do,
what businesses are trying to do
is make money is is farm is fish
is do all of these things that
are producing energy and so on,
as well. But what's it what's
missing is the awareness and the
conscience around the side
effects around the collateral
damage that happens with that
ecocide?
Adam Curry: ecocide, you're
killing fish. And in your
farming is killing, nature
ecocide? We need international
rules against ecocide.
John C Dvorak: Of course.
Rather,
Adam Curry: we're almost there.
Tadros course Tadros is there.
John C Dvorak: Everybody's
buddy,
Adam Curry: everybody's buddy
from the World Health
Organization. And he just
couldn't help himself how to
talk about this is x. This is x
this is x. So
Unknown: this is x is a
placeholder for unknown. This is
I just wanted to start by
clarifying that because there is
already a lot a lot of
attention, if I may, although
COVID came immediately that we
were preparing for COVID. Like,
this is diseases, you may
even call COVID as the first
disease exists. And it may
happen again,
Adam Curry: yes, it may
John C Dvorak: happen again,
every 100 years, but somehow
it's going to cycle is going to
be sped up. How's that work is?
Adam Curry: Well, Elon Musk is
disease X. But he's just not
saying anyway, what is really
going on here this, everybody in
Davos is afraid, and they're
afraid of one thing. And this is
really what all the discussions
about. It's what it all comes
down to. And we're just going to
come full circle, bring it back
to Queen, Ursula, this is what
they're really afraid of
business,
Unknown: have the innovation,
the technology, the talents, to
deliver the solutions, we need
to fight threats, like climate
change, or industrial scale
disinformation. And this is more
important than ever, as we start
2020 for the biggest electoral
year, in history, democracies
across the world will have to
the pulse, and half of the
global population will be
affected. This includes over 450
million people in the European
Union, a union of 27
democracies, where all of us
have the right mind to be
ourselves, even if we are
different from the majority.
This
Adam Curry: is what they're
worried about. They're worried
about the rise of the people,
although they classify that as
far right.
John C Dvorak: Far Right. And
they also like to use the word
populism as though as a bad
thing. Yes. That's
Adam Curry: what they're worried
about. They're seeing it
everywhere in every country in
the world because of them. Yes,
exactly. So they have brought it
on themselves to figure out how
to disinfo better, they have to
figure out how to use generic
native AI to disinfo better
figure out how to dis info about
climate change. That's what
every single session is about.
They are deathly afraid of the
people rising up and doing this
one thing called voting. So of
course, you know, they're
probably swapping out secrets.
Hey, if you stuffed the ballot
box, you couldn't win is great.
Now there was one interview that
was just mind boggling at Dubbo.
on CNBC, JP Morgan. Chairman
CEO, Jamie Dimon always goes on
the morning show always spouts
off. And he confirmed and Jamie
diamond is a Trump hater. He's
been a Trump hater. He hates
everything about Trump. He's
just a hater. But the hater
butters gotta hate and I would
say he's, you know, he's he's
Jeffrey Epstein's banker. proven
fact. Yeah, I mean, he didn't
they didn't have a trial,
because he paid everybody off.
Was it 15 billion or something?
paid it all off. Yeah, that's
how you do it. But he now
messages what we were theorizing
about, that the whole plan is
here to have Trump win this
election, for Trump to take all
the collapse, because there will
be another financial and if
there isn't one already
underway, they'll make one
because it's great, because then
you know, we have easy to do.
When you have a crisis, you can
print more money, do all the
things you need to do. We need a
financial reset, we need to
blame it all on Trump and
Republicans. So that in four
years, everybody will be saying,
please give us Joe back
anything, but this isn't
horrible. Our lives are not
worthy. And he did it in the
following manner.
Unknown: I think it's a mistake
to assume that everything's
hunky dory. And you know, and
when stock markets rough, it's
kind of like this little drug we
all feel like, it's just great,
you know, but remember, we've
had so much fiscal monetary
stimulation. So I'm a little
more on the cautious side.
Adam Curry: I love how he laughs
about that. It's like, we got so
much money was great.
Unknown: But remember, we've had
so much fiscal monetary
stimulation. So I'm a little
more on the cautious side, that
we are facing a lot of things in
2024 or 25. And you mentioned
Ukraine, the terrorist activity
Israel, the Red Sea,
quantitative tightening, which I
still question if we understand
exactly how that works. I don't
think we do have QE actually
work, what the effect of
negative zero rates was folding.
And obviously, the politics, and
then the Ukrainian wars
affecting oil, gas, food
migration. So you have all these
very powerful forces that are
going to be affecting us in 24,
and 25. So if I was the
government, I would be preparing
for I'm going to do about that,
assuming things aren't good. And
I just also want to point out, I
wish the Democrats would think a
little more carefully when they
talk about Magga. You know, and
if you travel this country, then
the cruise is unbelievable. We
took a bus trip this year, and
Leslie picker was on Spokane and
Boise and volcanoes growing,
they're hungry to grow. They're
innovating. It's, it's
everywhere. It's not just
Silicon Valley. So we've got
this great hand. But when people
say Magga, they're actually
looking at people voting for
Trump, and they think they're
voting and they're basically
scapegoating them, that you are
like him. And I don't think
they're voting for Trump because
family values. If you just take
a step back, be honest. He's
kind of right about NATO. Right.
But immigration, kinda, he grew
the economy quite well, trade.
Tax Reform worked. He was right
about some of China. I don't I
don't like what he did. I said
China made me I don't like how
he said things Mexico, I don't
like, but he wasn't wrong about
these critical issues. And
that's why they voted for him.
And I think people should be a
little more respectful of our
fellow citizens. And when you
guys have people up here, you
should always ask the why not
like it's a binary thing. You're
supporting Trump, you're not
support Trump. Why use it's
John C Dvorak: hard to hate 75
million of your fellow
Americans. It's, I agree done.
Unknown: And you know, the
Democrats have done a pretty
good job with the deplorables
plugging on their Bibles and
their beer and their guns. I
mean, really, like, can we just
stop that stuff and actually
grow up and other people respect
and listen to a little bit? I do
think the economy will affect I
think this this negative talk
about Magga is going to hurt
Biden's electoral campaign.
Adam Curry: Get let Trump have
it all. Let him have it. Stop
it. Let Maga win. Give it to
them. It'll be great because
it's not going to be good.
What's happening? That's what I
heard.
John C Dvorak: And that's an
interesting interpretation. I
think you could have heard that.
Well,
Adam Curry: I feel that and I
have a short NPR clip here. I
feel that it is the word is out.
The message is in is like the
Iowa caucus. 1% of the vote was
in, in the media who always
determines our elections, called
it for Trump. This This was
surprising to me. The New York
Times called it for Trump within
one minute. NPR was surprised
too. So
Unknown: what's it all mean? For
that we turn to NPR Senior
Political Editor and
correspondent Dominika Montana
Oh, hey there, Dominica. Hey,
Mary Louise Hay, depress made a
swift call made quite an early
call last night and the call was
that Trump had an insurmountable
lead. What stood out to you
about last night? Well,
surprises
can happen in politics, and we
should prepare ourselves for
those. But this result was not
one of them. I mean, I was
surprised, though, at how
quickly the race was called. I
mean, just half an hour after
voting began at and other
networks were able to do that
because of the overwhelming lead
that Trump had in the entrance
polls that were taken throughout
the state. And then that matched
some key precincts. And that's
all that was really needed for
them to have that kind of
confidence level. In the end, it
was Trump with more than 50% of
the vote exactly what polling
had shown for months and months.
Adam Curry: I thought it was
very suspicious. Calling it for
Trump with 1% of the vote that
also skews people who still
hadn't voted. Noses
John C Dvorak: caucuses is no
voting. Well,
Adam Curry: okay, it's caucus
and yes, I don't know. It's to
me, it was very suspicious that
all of a sudden they're like,
oh, it's Trump. Didn't you think
so? I
John C Dvorak: didn't see it
that way. Personally, it was
obvious he was gonna do that.
And he just wanted to get out of
there and go home. damn cold to
be out. By
Adam Curry: the way, the there
was this open letter to the
Davos here, proud to pay more.
Our message at Davos is simple.
elected leaders must tax us the
super rich, we'd be proud to pay
more. So a whole bunch of rich
douchebags sign this open
letter. And I would just like to
remind them if you go to
Treasury direct.gov The Bureau
of the Fiscal Service is happy
to accept gifts donated to the
United States government to
reduce the debt held by the
public.
John C Dvorak: This is true, you
are the it is your app. So save
all joined in, I guess the whole
center money and you think
Adam Curry: it's just
performative in 2022. A whopping
$180,310.32 was donated
voluntarily. This should be
billions this year.
John C Dvorak: You think these
blowhards
Adam Curry: proud to pay more?
Yeah. Oh yes, please. We're
proud to pay more to tackle
extreme inequality, proud to pay
more to help reduce the cost of
living for working people.
John C Dvorak: Are there any
names on there that you can tell
us? Yes,
Adam Curry: We the undersigned
the funniest one is Brian Cox,
who plays a billionaire on
television in billions are no
secession secession as a whole
bunch of people have been
there's hundreds of people here.
I presume they're all
billionaires. I don't know maybe
John C Dvorak: it was done in
just that because I think you
right, they should be donating
their excess funds to Treasury
Adam Curry: Todd Oppenheimer
sounds like a rich dude. There's
no Jamie Dimon on here. I'll
tell you that. He's not he's not
stupid. But yeah, I just want to
remind everybody, you you can,
you can definitely, you can
definitely help us out. Just
donate your money right now. I
will. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: So to change
topics a bit, I want to do a mia
culpa for myself. Oh, to say got
two or three notes. Nasty notes.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Can you get to
read up?
John C Dvorak: Now I don't need
to read it Micah summarize. And
the nasty notes evolved revolved
around the Zoomer who quit her
job? Or who got fired? Yes. From
Cloudflare. Yes. And what's of
importance? I'll just summarize.
Well, I also gotten asked, you
know, for some woman who just
called me a douchebag, for even
Adam Curry: I think she actually
said, that's 30 minutes of my
life, I'll never get back again.
John C Dvorak: It was a nine
minute clip. So I don't know how
she does her calculation. She's
lucky to have a job herself.
Where so? One guy pointed out,
one of our producers seemed
extremely knowledgeable about
sales. And he pointed out that
this bullcrap, because all his
say most of his sales close
during that holiday period
between Thanksgiving and New
Year's. So she was full of shit
that she couldn't close these
deals during the most profitable
time of the year. And I was
thinking about when he said that
you read that note. I said to
myself, you know, that's funny.
I did. I didn't recognize that
fact. Because all of our income
for this show pretty much shows
up in that same period.
Adam Curry: Yes. And so yeah,
yeah, you're right. So that's
the closing
John C Dvorak: time of the year.
So this woman had no legs to
stand on and regarding this
complaint, when that's when she
should have closed, not the He's
falling apart. And then he had a
number of breakdowns and the way
she didn't close and some of the
details of her incompetence, and
he went on about it. And it was
very, I took that one to heart.
That was a good note. And then
somebody else pointed out, which
I thought was off. Yeah, there's
that because I had made such a
fuss about this is the new new
this is gonna happen a lot
because we were going to record
these calls. And then he
reminded me because I know this,
from my experience, that when
you when you get fired, or get
laid off, you get a bonus,
usually of cash money, if you
sign a nondisclosure. Yeah, as
you walk out the door. Yeah. So
in other words, you can you hate
the company, not because they
just fired, you're there, you're
gone by, oh, here's five grand
design this thing, you can take
this check home, and but you
have to shut up, you can start
bitching and moaning about the
company. So that precludes the
idea that everyone is going to
be doing this because in fact,
especially in tech, everyone's
is bought off. But NDAs they
can't do it. In fact, she
obviously refused to do that.
And she just left in a huff so.
So I was my interpretation of
the entire scene, I consider to
be completely erroneous, if that
helps anyone.
Adam Curry: I also received an
interesting note from one of our
knights. He says I've fired over
1000 people in my career, I was
doing exactly what Clooney was
doing in the moving in the
movie, including living in
Dallas and flying American
Airlines. If they wanted to
avoid paying more for
unemployment insurance, and
we're firing for cause they
should have been better
organized, he says, But what
I've done the way I did it, we
usually start by saying you
being let go with no cause and
will be eligible for
unemployment. There's no point
in telling someone why they are
being let go unless you are
doing for cause and will fight
unemployment benefits. He says
the single biggest layoff I've
ever done, I fired five years
ago, I fired 76 people on the
same zoom call. Man that's cold.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. That's cold.
Adam Curry: That was five years
ago. One other point of note,
because we questioned whether
the stacked ranking was a part
of Salesforce. And we also
brought up SAP one of our
producers who works for SAP says
I know for a fact our software
is not able to do stacked
ranking, because we do ranking
ourselves on a spreadsheet. I've
never had to stack rank fire
anyone but when we're talking
about who's getting bonuses and
salary increases, we do it every
year, we have a spreadsheet
sought out the team and update
the software from the
spreadsheet. So apparently you
know that you know I would start
I would I would start looking
for a job but Salesforce if I
were you SAP seems to be behind.
Behind. And it was Bambi Bambi
is the company that you call for
to for HR to fire people. Oh,
Bambi ba M glam li cute Bambi
BAM delay. So
John C Dvorak: now that's true.
I think that straightens out.
Adam Curry: We're incredibly
sorry for the loss of life. So
sorry.
John C Dvorak: Really learned
something?
Adam Curry: Yeah, that we that
your your stuff is no good. No
good. And
John C Dvorak: my clips suck,
Adam Curry: you're hurting
people. That, you know, I want
to remind people because we've
been doing our value for value
segments at the end, which
looking at the minute by minute,
we can track some of that with
podcasting 2.0 Not person but we
can see. It's not really such a
drop off other than there's a
drop off. But I was surprised by
this note from one of our
producers as I first of all must
express my opinion. And my
appreciation and affection for
the show have had many people in
mouth include my wife and two
daughters, aged 14 and 27. I've
made anonymous donations and
attended several nogen meetups,
I must point out something that
you may not have considered a
concern to the donation section.
It may be hard to believe most
women don't want to hear about
boob donations. My wife and
daughters no longer listen to
the show with me because of the
awkwardness. And it goes on to
say you just understand that
they don't want to listen to
locker room talk about
objectifying body parts of
women. And I had to pause there
for a second and say they have
no problem with clips about
babies being beheaded and ripped
out of wombs and all the other
stuff that's going on in the
world, but the word boob and and
I would say Sir Kevin McLaughlin
honors this part of the female
anatomy that somehow is enough
for them to say I can't listen
to this show anymore.
John C Dvorak: Well, I thought
that was a net to be very
specious. What my argument is
juvenile in that regard. What my
argument is no, the women's
argument? Yes. I think that they
are being silly. To put it
mildly silly.
Adam Curry: Oh, I in all the
years that Kevin McLaughlin has
been doing this this is the
first complaint I've ever
received.
John C Dvorak: Well I'm sure
there's other people that don't
like it. I think that I think
Adam Curry: that your daughters
and your wife just hate the show
and they
John C Dvorak: know where what
state are they in I like to know
in that state I do not know I
do. Or country
Adam Curry: I think America but
I think it's just they're sick
and tired of listening to your
podcasts and they use that as a
as a as an excuse.
John C Dvorak: I believe that to
be correct. You can listen to
this right here. People are
looking for excuses not to
donate and people are looking
for excuses to donate. You have
to give them excuses to donate
it now. Everything becomes an
excuse not to donate ended the
show itself if you don't like
the show. Yeah. Yeah, you can
point a finger at the boob
donation and which is which is
playful. You don't enjoy
playfulness. You're taking
things a little too seriously.
Is this show is not for you? No.
Because really playful, playful
show. In fact, I have
Adam Curry: no agenda. It's a
playful show.
John C Dvorak: It is a playful,
playful show.
Adam Curry: I like that we're a
playful show.
John C Dvorak: So I listened to
just got caught up in when a
Trump speeches and I listened to
most of it. I didn't get to hear
the whole thing. But I do have
Do I have a mini or do not have
a visiting DC I have I have? Oh,
here it is Trump. Yeah. So I got
a couple of his his bits out new
bits is fish stick they uses his
new some of his new material
that is used in his set
Adam Curry: this back. That's a
great set. Man. That was great
set. So
John C Dvorak: I just want to
play these two because they one
of them was is new, new standby.
But the first one I just thought
was kind of cute. A very short
clip is just throws it in this
Trump on visiting Washington DC.
But there's not
Unknown: going to be people show
up. People come in from your
state. They want to go see
Washington. So they come in from
New Hampshire, they walk down
the road, they end up getting
shot.
Adam Curry: They get shot in the
nation's capitol.
John C Dvorak: You go to
Washington, you get shot. Now,
the funny thing is about that
particular bit is that he knows
it is it is you know, he knows
he's doing jokes. And so he kind
of blew that one up because they
use the word shot and they
pulled it back as fast as he
could say he couldn't hear it at
the very beginning. If you
listen to the very beginning, he
says he uses the word shot, go
to Washington DC to get shot,
and then he kind of chokes over
it. So he knows what he's doing
up there. Yeah. Oh, of course.
He
Adam Curry: knows what he's
doing. Now. Here's
John C Dvorak: the bit that he
did. He's done this one all
throughout Iowa. And he used to
do it. He did it the first time
he did. He got a big reaction
from the MSNBC and others. So
he's trying he wants people to
die to vote for him. So
Unknown: even if you think and I
joked I said, if your husband
sick as a dog, get him out of
bed, darling Jack Jack. Yeah,
yes, yes. I'm so sick. Don't.
Jack, get your ass out of bed.
You're voting for your star. It
doesn't matter. As long as he
gets that voted. He kicks the
bucket after that. It's okay. He
served his country. I'll write
him a letter. Jack, thank you
for your service. Jack. Thank
you for writing the letter.
Jack, thank you for your
service.
Adam Curry: He's deplorable. I
can't believe is. He's the
worst. This is what's
interesting, because he does
this type of stick. Let me see I
have it here. And I'm sure you
saw some of this. I've just a
short couple of short ones. But
the MSNBC folks just went off
the rails about well, he's
playing to the white Christians.
Yeah, that's exactly what the
white Christians want to hear.
We want to hear about getting
shot. That's exactly right. Joy
read.
Unknown: But you know, I feel
like the important sort of data
point data point, you know,
Steve talks about it a lot.
He's, he's gonna probably talk
about a little more tonight is
that these these are white
Christians, that this is a state
that is overrepresented, or over
represented by white Christians
that are going to participate in
these caucuses, especially
tonight. I today earlier today
reached out to Robert Jones,
Robin Jones, from Robert
Religion Research Institute,
knowing that we were going to
talk about Iowa and this is a
hyper evangelical white state.
And he said the following to me
Iowa is about 61% White
Christian, the country as a
whole is approximately 41%,
white Christian. And if I were
talking about evangelical white
Christians, and he said the
following, because I asked him,
what do they get out of
supporting Donald Trump because
he keeps him Losing, he keeps
delivering losses and losses,
losses. And he said the
following. They see themselves
as the rightful inheritors of
this country. And Trump has
promised to give it back to
them. All the things that we
think about, about electability
about, you know, what are people
gaming out or none of that
matters when you believe that
God has given you this country
that it is yours, and that
everyone who is not a white
conservative Christian is a is a
fraudulent American is a less a
less real American than you
don't care about electability.
Adam Curry: I gotta find a
better church. We're not talking
about that in our church. But I
want to hear that God gave this
country to us the white
Christians.
John C Dvorak: Wow, does she
just dream this stuff out of
thin air? Oh, no, this to me,
this
Adam Curry: was an ongoing
topic. This is Yeah. Man,
Supercuts
John C Dvorak: of the of this
claim that Trump get even
there's another, I should have
gotten these clips. There was a
series of clips, all taken from
MSNBC saying that even though he
was broke pretty much every
record for Iowa caucuses. Now
Adam Curry: he lost. Oh, I
didn't hear that. Well. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he lost because
nobody showed there wasn't
enough people to vote. It was
really a losers. It's a surprise
that the numbers were so low.
What he did to 51% was it's
amazing even got that much.
Lost. He was a loser. Alex,
people are in clinically insane
over at MSNBC.
Adam Curry: I don't even know I
need to I'm sure the ratings are
doing better. Because, you know,
people need this. They they need
to get their fix of Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's
right, man. It's the Christians
only the white Christians. By
the way, the black Christians
pretty radical in this country.
John C Dvorak: If you're much
more radical than white Chris.
Yes, of course.
Adam Curry: Let's listen to Alex
Wagner, who was supposed to be
more serious than a man. There
was so many cool memes of joy
read with that white hair do
that. She's got the white legs.
John C Dvorak: He's a Trump
hair. Yes. A Trump.
Adam Curry: earpiece. Oh, there
was a lot of that. A lot of
generic AI stuff. I loved it.
Unknown: I Steve was pointing
out the evangelical vote, which
I've been fascinated by and
recently,
Adam Curry: what exactly is the
evangelical vote Joe? Just so I
understand, because they throw
this term out there all the
time. But is that a
John C Dvorak: voting bloc is
considered the evangelical vote.
Yeah, that stems from mostly the
south. And it's supposed to be
it's like the black vote. It's
enough to
Adam Curry: prop up but what is
an evangelical and
John C Dvorak: evangelize
evangelical? Helped me Okay,
evangelical in my mind is a
Christian fundamentalist that
comes out of the Pentecostal and
mostly the Pentecostal church.
Okay.
Adam Curry: Oh, all right. We
don't have one of those here. I
gotta find one weeks because
there's gotta be there's no, I
don't think there's a
Pentecostal. We have a lot of
churches I'd be I'd be stunned.
Now. A lot of Lutheran churches
around here, Lutheran. Themed
reporters
Unknown: have been talking about
the way in which the Trump
coalition the Maga coalition has
ads coalition devoured the
evangelical coalition, kind of a
case study in that Michelle
Goldberg talks about it. Tim
Alberta's new book talks about
it. David French has talked
about this phenomenon. And if
you look at those entry polls,
you know, as Steve points out,
55% of white born again or
evangelicals are going through
Trump. That is a that is an
exponential increase from 2016.
Do you consider yourself part of
the Magga movement? 78% going
for Trump. That's not hugely
surprising. But the overlap
there I think is what I mean is
what is so remarkable about this
moment in American politics
right? By van der Platz, right
who is a kingmaker in Iowa
politics an evangelical and very
much a mouthpiece for the
evangelical vote
Adam Curry: or want to be an
evangelical kingmaker. This is
make you want to be in on this.
This sounds like
Unknown: fun Iowa endorses Don
Ron DeSantis. It clearly does
not matter. Evangelical America
is behind Donald Troy in
John C Dvorak: a minute hold on
a second.
Adam Curry: She listening to
herself clearly. Now she's
reading the prompter. She's got
John C Dvorak: this guy who is
the evangelical Pied Piper king
maker. And he's all in for
DeSantis and DeSantis. Just you
know, you know pretty much bid
bid the bid to dust. Yeah, in
that election. So what was she
talking about? At the event Joe
did were there just a leaderless
cult what she's saying
Adam Curry: is you just feel an
airtime maybe you want to hear
more
John C Dvorak: details filling
Yeah, back it up a little bit
Unknown: Santas. It clearly does
not matter. evangelical America
is behind Donald Trump. And that
sort of gets to the roots of
like what Trump ism is now. You
know, we were told in 2016 that
evangelicals made their beds
with Trump because they wanted
to have a Supreme Court that was
modeled in an evangelical
conservative model. Well, they
got that but if evangelically
Adam Curry: conservative model,
is that a new Tesla, I need I
need some of this
Unknown: seems like their
affiliation with both and take a
look at this court they're
John C Dvorak: talking about,
except for Amy Comey buried or
we're only one is the only one
she's the only one the rest of
them are Catholic or Jewish. But
Amy Kony Barrett, as I have I
have the Chevron deference
clips. Yeah, I'm excited because
that's coming up. I'm excited.
She's like, you know, she's a
pretty much of a long she's one
of those people that over
studies have been she's not
falling in line with anything
Unknown: that was modeled in an
evangelical conservative model.
Well, they got that but it seems
like their affiliation with
Trump and Maga is in runs deeper
than that. And, you know, David
French has articulated this
point beautifully. It's, it's,
it's the Trump is in some ways
become religion for a certain
set of Americans.
Adam Curry: We're singing songs
in church about him,
Unknown: and especially for
evangelicals, that it's not
about the virtue anymore. It's
about the vise that Trump
expresses. And I think you see
that playing out in Iowa where
the evangelical vote is key. It
is central to what is going to
unfold tonight. And it is very
much a group of people that that
find that Trump is, in some ways
the Second Coming. Trump
Adam Curry: is the Trump upon
the cross is
Unknown: taking out ads, like
the one that came out, I think a
week ago called god named Trump,
there is a distinctly religious
undertone to his campaigning
nationally. And and I think you
see that playing out in Iowa,
right? I mean, right. Your
numbers do not lie, Rachel. And
I find it really a spectacularly
interesting thing, if not,
downright curious. Now,
Adam Curry: this is interesting,
because I don't think this was
an ad created for television.
She just kind of said that,
like, Oh, right. made this ad
where God made Trump. Have you
seen this? This video? God made
Trump? No, I've never seen it.
Okay, now, it is a takeoff. It's
Paul Harvey. A bit. I don't
know. I I was not around for the
original. The play you start
with? Well, it's a it's a
takeoff on an orig. I don't know
there was an original Paul
Harvey, God made something,
listen to it. And we can stop
because you'll probably
recognize the cadence and
everything. And this is
something that I think someone
else made maybe, you know, the
white Christians for Trump
John C Dvorak: movement, some
main guy, anybody so
Adam Curry: generic AI is good.
Unknown: And on June 14 1946,
God looked down on his planned
paradise and said, I need a
caretaker. So God gave us Trump.
God said, I need somebody
willing to get up before dawn,
Adam Curry: I think it
originally was God made the
farmer I think that what that's
what the original was God made
the farmer, fix this
Unknown: country, work all day,
fight the Marxist each suffer,
then go to the Oval Office and
stay past midnight and a meeting
of the heads of state. So God
made Trump I need somebody with
arms strong enough to rustle the
deep state and yet gentle enough
to deliver his own grandchild.
Somebody to ruffle the feathers,
tame cantankerous World Economic
Forum. Come home hungry. Have to
wait until the First Lady is
done with lunch with friends.
Then tell the ladies to be sure
and come back real soon. And
mean it. So God gave us Trump? I
need somebody who can shape an
axe. But we okay. You
John C Dvorak: got all right
here it hit this. Yeah, if you
go to Paul Harvey, God made you
get there. God made a farmer. So
I'll just
Adam Curry: play a little bit.
Yeah, this is
Unknown: and on the eighth day.
God looked down on his plan
paradise and said I need a
caretaker. So God made a farmer.
Yeah, there it is. God made a
farmer.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so there's
a mediocre copy of that. And now
that I hear the voice is not
even that great. No, Paul
Harvey's he had a tremendous set
of pipes. They put Paul Harvey
Parra Javi what had been doing
these little radio snippets
forever and was the Christian
nationalists Magga guy I don't
know that he was any thing. I
had to look it up but but I
remember the moment he was
definitely a conservative
character. And I remember the
moment where Hewitt at 60
minutes decided to put him on
the show to add a little balance
that lasted all of like two
shows. Because the regulars on
that show are a bunch of you
know, lefties that has to CBS
people. Yeah. And they just
wouldn't have it. They did I
think they they made his life
miserable and poor
Adam Curry: Paul. And here's the
rest of the story. Paul Harvey,
John C Dvorak: I'm sure he got a
play a pay or play deal which
netted him some sort of care. So
Adam Curry: I think this is when
it comes to Democrats. I can
just say it now in America is
the division has become so and
these are political people. I
mean, I'm not talking about
people just vote left but the
political people Washoe County,
Washoe County, Nevada. I think
it's Nevada, isn't it? Wash him.
Yeah. Wash. Oh, that's Democrat
country, right? I don't know. I
think so. Don't they vote blue
or they vote blue. That blue
name
John C Dvorak: is mixed area to
get Nevada's mixed is pretty
much down the middle. So
Adam Curry: they had the county
commission meeting and they
opened up with the consecration.
Thank you
Unknown: for letting us here. My
name is Jason I am an organizer
and founder of Reno satanic. And
I'm here to give the invocation
today invoking again in nom de
de no stress, say tennis looser,
fatty X LLC, in the name of the
eternal rebel against high
radical authority in the spirit
of your nature of the natural
world, the freedoms of thought
and expression on prejudice,
intellectual inquiry, economics
and social progress to bring
influence and guiding actions of
nobility and justice to the
decisions made in this chamber
today. To act with might in the
undertaking of responsibility
that may lay ahead of this body
before us today. The New Age is
dawning that these decisions
will play a role in for our
liberation for here and now is
our day of joy. Here and now is
our opportunity. May we seize
this glorious day and its
enchanting nights to celebrate
the wonders of the natural
world. As we are all part of its
boundless mysteries, and the
spirit of the unconquerable sun,
the bringer of light and
knowledge we say Shem ham for OS
hail satan.
John C Dvorak: All right. Okay,
you win the show. We have tannic
ritual in front of the Washoe
County, whatever group this was
planning commission or the
mission. Yes. So this guy comes
out and they let it they let him
do it. Of course. What is wrong
with these? Idiots? They're
Adam Curry: Satanists. Not
today. Satan, we mock you. We
mock you. Oh, my goodness. What
they should do? Hey, where's my
generic AI doing? And Satan
created Biden. That will be
good. Who that?
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
that'd be a topper.
Adam Curry: That'd be a great
topper. Yeah. All of this. All
of this, of course was really to
detract from what I thought was
an outstanding rant from Vivek.
Kind of say it right, because
you know, he's going for that VP
slot. Vivek. I think a lot of
people would like Vivek, SVP, I
doubt he's going to be vice
president. No, no way. But this
was Trump behind him, smirking
and laughing and smiling was a
great brand. And then
John C Dvorak: they tried to hug
and they couldn't do it. By his
brother, by the way, just before
we get to that clip, I wondered
because I played those twos
Trump clips about, he's also
doing it unfortunate. There's no
real clip for it. But he's also
now part of his act. He does
Biden up on the stage can't
can't get off the stage, shaking
hands with nobody and then
bumbling around and walking into
a set is great. He does a whole
shtick on Biden trying to get
off this off this stage. Here we
go. We believe
Unknown: ideals still exist.
This man is going to be your
next president. revive them. E
pluribus unum from many one. And
you know how we're doing it.
We're doing it by seeking the
truth at every step of the way.
There are two genders in this
country. That is the truth.
Fossil fuels are a requirement
for human prosperity drill,
frack, burn coal embrace nuclear
energy. reverse racism is
racism. And open border is not a
border. Parents determined the
education of their children. The
nuclear family is the greatest
form of governance known to
mankind. Capitalism lifts us up
from poverty. There are three
branches of government In the
United States not for and the US
Constitution is the strongest
and greatest guarantor of
freedom in human history. That
is the truth.
We fight for the truth.
Fantastic.
Adam Curry: And more people are
starting to do this this
boldness we're seeing it
everywhere. Now people are no
longer afraid of speaking
against the woke stuff. There's
just, I mean, it's everywhere
now. It's everywhere. So they
all this satanic trans Maoists
stuff is gonna fall apart it's
not working dei corporations
everywhere quietly changing
their policy. This is not the
way to go anymore. But it was
that that no one wants to fly
United anymore. You know, the
CEO dresses up in drag and like
now Tinos like I'm gonna fly
she's flying to front and floor
I'm not flying United States and
my flying it is people are nuts.
So interesting. Oh, yes. The bud
light effect it that was that's
definitely part of it.
Definitely, and then I won't
play a clip because it's just
full of expletives. But the EU
is a UFC fighter who got asked
by some Canadian woke
journalist. Now how do you feel
about the trans community and
you know in Bud Light sponsoring
the UFC but and he just went
off? Just went off is crazy. You
know what, you know, in America.
This is for all you foreigners
listening you foreigners that a
lot of you listen. In America,
we still it was gone for a long
time. And for a while there, it
seemed like only the Russians
had humor. But you know, the
Russians would do funny stuff.
This is before Ukraine. And they
had humor and there was the
humor that we used to have as
Americans. We'd make fun of
ourselves. We love a good joke.
We love a double entendre. We
this is why the boobs thing is
very is you know, we love boobs
is an American thing. I guess.
Although I think other countries
love boobs to Fort Wayne,
Indiana. They have a they have a
building and they had a poll
amongst the citizens. What are
we going to name this thing? And
they want to name it after a
famous Fort Wayne politician. I
think Harry balls be ALS. And
they held the poll and the
results are in a former
Unknown: Fort Wayne mayor is
getting some national attention.
1000s of people voted online to
name the new city county
building in his honor,
but that probably won't happen
because of his name. NewsChannel
fifteens Don Austin is here to
explain, Well,
how they're marked. The people
voted and the top picks so far
with more than 10,000 votes is
the hairy balls Government
Center, named after one of the
city's longest serving mayors,
but not everyone's on board with
that name.
Harry bales apparently was a
great mayor. That's what I'm
hearing if you read the comments
actually people are very serious
about what he did as mayor the
family was you know, it's
part of our history. I think
it's part of the history we're
proud of
to pick the new name for the
building people went over to
feedback fort wayne.org They
made suggestions and voted the
overwhelming front runner was
the hairy balls government
senator
Adam Curry: of course this is
who we are we're simple people
but we'd like a good joke we
want we want
John C Dvorak: the guy's name
was hairy balls what he is
supposed to do.
Adam Curry: We want it to be
called the hairy balls building
everybody wants that. This is
who we are. This is where we are
John C Dvorak: joy you giggly
glee?
Adam Curry: Yes Glee, Glee.
Harry bone admits missed all of
the horrible things in the
world. We got Satanists. Yeah.
Satanism
John C Dvorak: before meeting
this thing is too much.
Adam Curry: Give us some hairy
balls to make us feel better
please plays
John C Dvorak: are you gonna
want to feel bad live in Chicago
play this frozen Tesla clip. Oh
Adam Curry: my god, this this
frozen Tesla clip was all I
mean, there were at least 15
different versions of
John C Dvorak: this bunch of
dead robots out here.
Unknown: Did Teslas pack the
parking lot at this Tesla super
charging station in Oak Brook
have seen mirrored in other
supercharging stations around
the Chicago area. And it's it's
crazy is this is a disaster
series. with temperatures
falling into the negative double
digits. These charging ports
have stopped charging, leaving
many Tesla owners stranded here
in long lines since Sunday.
Nothing
no juice is put on 0%. And this
was like three hours this
morning being out here after
eight hours yesterday
as you've been charging. No not
at all. It's just isn't working.
Adam Curry: And it's just
frozen. And so I'm now going to
tow it to the justice service
center because that's my only
option at this point. Oh man, I
got better clips than that. Come
on. Come I like to
John C Dvorak: know why every
black guy in Chicago lenses
Tesla. How does that happen?
Well, there
Adam Curry: was one of these
guys who was an Uber drivers
like nope, not anymore. Another
guys like the handles, you know
how they recess in the Tesla?
They weren't they were frozen
shots. They weren't Pauling.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that book
comes out I couldn't I couldn't
Adam Curry: open my my car with
the app.
Unknown: Electric vehicles may
save drivers on the cost of
filling up. But this winter
growing frustrations for drivers
stuck waiting at charging
stations, but you still
have to wait for those other
cars to get through charger
didn't even get the charge.
Uber driver Marcus Campbell says
he spent hours this week
charging his car after freezing
temperatures swept across
Chicago,
making no money and time was
money.
The problem the cars run on
lithium batteries which can take
longer to charge and cold
temperatures, you may even need
to charge more often. According
to AAA, the average electric
vehicles driving range decreases
by 41%. When the temperature
outside dips to 20 degrees and
when the cars heater or AC is on
for each electric vehicle model
the EPA list of mileage but
experts say that number can be
misleading.
We've seen that that is wrong on
day one, and doesn't account for
weather variance. So EVs get
less range in the extreme cold
and they get a little bit less
range in the extreme heat.
Experts
say especially when it's cold
drivers should keep their
vehicles charged overnight.
Ideally in a garage and below
20%. If the battery drops to
zero, the car will have to be
towed and possibly repaired. In
Chicago, some Tow Truck
businesses getting a boost. Berg
says he's been busy in the cold,
we have seen an increase in
calls from a lot of different
owners that have electric
vehicles.
While some learn to weather the
inconvenience for others, that
challenges are too much.
I'll be getting the gas vehicle
ASAP. It's not for you. It's not
for me.
Adam Curry: I love this little
guy. No response from Tesla. We
have a sophomore year since the
yesterday afternoon, no response
from Tesla. So here Tesla Of
course, if you read the User
Guide, which is right near the
EULA, and the terms of service
if you're if you're if these
people went to a super charging
station because of course you
know hey, you can charge it in
40 minutes it's almost as fast
as filling up with gas.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you're
filling up the gas at the lowest
rate possible. The supercharger
Adam Curry: will not work if
your battery is under 30%
Because of the supercharge the
battery has to be pre
conditioned and warmed up so
people that just don't know what
they're doing they don't you
have to have NCOP was oh you
have to precondition your
battery and set your GPS and you
know like the Watergate
secretary, you know click on the
left button and then this is not
a good idea. These cars are no
good then I'm not picking on
Tesla. I mean all of it it all
of us same it's fun the whole
idea is falling apart. This is
very bad. I
John C Dvorak: want to remind I
wish I had the clip remind you
of you doing annoying and watch
ruining over the bought you
borrowed the bankers?
Adam Curry: No, I was horrible.
What are you talking about? I
owe you I'm gonna get the clip
right now because I'll tell you
what happened. I had to I
couldn't charge it at the hotel.
So I had to drive to the
university. a&m to park in the
garage and take an Uber back to
the hotel I'm quite sure I was
not booing and eyeing about how
cooler oh you
John C Dvorak: know how to use
automatic control you drive down
the freeway and be most
Cambridge users out there get me
these clips
Adam Curry: being a.io Everybody
John will be very live red
cheeks. I said is horrible to
have read almost drove me off
the road. Oh mass. Yes. Wow.
Wow. Yes, I remember. I do to
know. You remember? You don't
don't get me started. Do not
bring it.io You will see you're
in dimension d right now the
comeback? What did you do with
John? I said what was definitely
cool was that was how in traffic
Howard will automatically drive.
But all the downsides and the
white knuckle of coming back the
next day worrying that we didn't
have enough juice. I remember it
very well. Yes,
John C Dvorak: I take the time
you turned on the machine was
when the bankers sold the car
saying you couldn't take it
anymore. Oh man.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right.
Not sorry. I have worked to do
it and producers don't even
bother.
John C Dvorak: I'll find users
don't listen to him. Don't
Adam Curry: listen, because he's
right, as usual. No,
John C Dvorak: not Oh,
Adam Curry: man, I can't believe
that you're turning on me like
this. Yeah, this is not true.
John C Dvorak: I'm just
reminding you. I'm not turning.
It's not true. The I Chevron
deference talking about
gasoline.
Adam Curry: The Chevron
deference, does this explain
what Chevron deference is?
John C Dvorak: Yes. In fact,
this is a very complete report,
except for the fact that comes
from PBS. And it's slanted very
subtly, though, it's not slanted
in a strong manner. But it's
slanted enough that I could
tell. And I think I have one
clip that's really short, which
points out part of the problem
and this is going up when you
set it up, or I'm going to set
it out by this case is fine.
This is about it by boat, a crew
of herring, herring fishermen
that took this case to the
Supreme Court because they
weren't going to put up with
require $700
Adam Curry: a day for $700 a day
to have some hire some douchebag
to be on the show they
John C Dvorak: had they had to
pay for it. In other words,
they're paying for their own
inspect. It's like, it's like,
okay, I can the cops come by my
house once in a while. Yeah, you
have to pay well,
Adam Curry: but break it down.
The Chevron deference is the
idea that Congress writes very
broad and, and laws that can be
interpreted and they say, You
know what, the agencies can
interpret it, the agencies can
do whatever they want. And when
I say
John C Dvorak: the eight Well,
no, it was it goes beyond that
the agencies can make their own
rule rules. Yes. Rules. Correct.
And that's what we're dealing
with, which is the
administrative state. I'd work
for the Ministry of State
myself. I have a lot of
experience with this. You're a
part of this machine. I was
Yeah. And curious. I was a
Democrat during that era, not
this.
Adam Curry: Did you ever change?
News?
John C Dvorak: Let's go with
this is a good breakdown. This
is a five six parter. It's very
short, though. Let's go with
Chevron deference. The Supreme
Unknown: Court today heard
arguments about whether a group
of Atlanta Atlantic herring
fishermen should be required to
pay for a costly monitoring
system on their boats, or
whether that requirement is
governmental overreach. But as
William Brangham reports, the
outcome of this case could have
enormous impacts far beyond the
fishing industry. At issue here
is what's called the Chevron
deference. It's named after the
oil and gas company whose case
created this legal precedent. It
says if there is a dispute over
some ambiguous regulation, the
deference should go to the
government agency whose experts
wrote the rule. That's what
those fishermen are arguing
against. And they're being
supported by industry groups who
also want to curtail regulation.
If Chevron is knocked down, it
could up end rules governing
nearly every slice of American
society, health care,
environmental and workplace
protections, public education,
banking, and more that
Adam Curry: the end the IRS,
John C Dvorak: all of it, every
agency, lot of agencies, but the
way they're presenting it as
though it's the end of the
world. And there's also a very
subtle subtext here that doesn't
allow people to understand where
the Chevron deference came from,
which was the which was during
the Reagan administration, they
lowered the Reagan wanted less
and less regulation. So they
lowered they told the Vedas to
push back, no, you're not going
to do that you're going to do
this, you're going to lower the
rate you're going to make the
regulations more lacks are going
to make things easier. This
lawsuits came from environmental
groups saying Oh, no, you can't
do that. Because you know, this
is not good. And so they involve
Chevron. Because Chevron, I
don't know what part of Chevron
was involved. But whatever the
case was, this was about the
relaxing of rules, not the
increase or craziness that's
going on now.
Adam Curry: It wasn't irony.
Good intent. Yeah. Iron. irony,
irony
John C Dvorak: is, is just is
that the max with this, and does
never discuss. Let's go with
part two. To
Unknown: understand what's at
stake. We're joined again by NPR
is Carrie Johnson, who was at
the court for today's arguments.
Carrie, thank you so much for
being back again. Sticking with
this fishermen's case, can you
explain what the arguments were
in their case and how Chevron
was applied there.
These plaintiffs are a small
group of fishermen based in the
northeastern United States. And
a few years ago, the Fisheries
Service put forward a
regulation, basically requiring
them to have professional
observers or monitors on their
boats, sometimes on an overnight
basis to make sure they were
following the rules, and decreed
that they should have to pay for
the monitors to the tune of
about $700 a day, which they say
is just too much money, they say
was never clear that Congress
intended for them to have to pay
and so they took This case all
the way to the Supreme Court
arguing that the federal agency
here had overreached against
that
Adam Curry: good for those
genocide. Are those eco ciders?
Good for them?
John C Dvorak: Yes, this case
has been bubbling in the
background for a while. And I
believe that this is the reason
that for one thing, if you
recall, six months to a year
ago, they started going after
Clarence Thomas. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we I think we even
discussed it in the context of
it. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And so what I
uncovered is the fact that this
all began when Clarence Thomas
decided he was all in on Chevron
deference. He,
Adam Curry: ah, no. flipper,
he's a flip flopper.
John C Dvorak: And he decided,
well, maybe it is not such a
great thing, this Chevron
deference precedent. So once he
once he and that changed, he's
Magga.
Adam Curry: He's a white
Christian. So
John C Dvorak: Christian
tonight. So once he it almost is
upon us a perfect coincidence
that when he made it clear that
he might be going the other way,
and Chevron deference, that's
when they start going. Yes. Your
administrative state at its
worst, it is nasty. It doesn't
like anybody interfering into
what it's doing. It likes to run
the show. Part three,
Unknown: I see. So in that case,
Chevron, the ruling was that the
government agency wrote this
rule, yes, it might be onerous
on the fishermen. But that's the
rule. And the agency gets to
determine that. That's
right. I in the in this case,
the lower courts determined that
it was either a reasonable or a
clear mandate under the law that
these fishermen would have to
pay. They firmly resisted that,
and took this case all the way
up to the Supreme Court where it
ended up today. So you can
see why business interests don't
like this idea of some agency
basically winning every toss up
ball over a fight over
regulation. What is their
broader argument about this
deference principle,
ultimately, they say that this
is a matter of the executive
branch of the government on
elected federal bureaucrats
taking power that should belong
to the United States Congress,
and to some extent to federal
judges, who all along have
interpreted the law and who can
interpret these laws and these
regulations just fine on their
own, without any input from
federal agencies. And they say
that for many years now, almost
40 of them since this case was
decided back in 1984. It's
really up ended the balance of
power between the branches. And
it's put a lot of onus on small
businesses like these fishermen
and others, to defend themselves
against federal agencies when
they have a hard time winning
their you know, this case, was
supported not just by the small
fishing industries, but a number
of very large conservative legal
foundations, groups like The Gun
Owners of America, a trade group
for e cigarette manufacturers
and others, just showing how
sweeping this case could be if
the Supreme Court ultimately
decides to overrule that
precedent from all those years
ago.
Adam Curry: Okay, I have a
question. So when you were in
the government, and a Democrat
Did you feel like you were
powerful as as a member of the
deep state that you had this
power to, to mess around with a
little guy and to boss him
around and tell him what to do
because you're with the EPA?
There were definite
John C Dvorak: Well, we were
that good regional pollution
operator that's
Adam Curry: even better. So you
were the little regional guy but
still had the Chevron deference
John C Dvorak: regional guys are
always considered the more
powerful the groups right. I was
not it I was kind of amenable I
worked in the refinery business
and I knew how these things
work. There were guys that work
in the agency. Absolutely. Were
a little Hitler's the SA and
they would make people's life
miserable. Because they could
tell us again,
Adam Curry: just quickly, just
because it's so nice. Tell us
the story about Dianne Feinstein
John C Dvorak: Come on. Dianne
Feinstein was a member of the of
the one of the boards that that
oversaw the air pollution
distributel Hitler Hitler arena.
So she was and she was a dingbat
and everybody knew it and right
to the end and so she so we had
the situation in the file room,
there was a
Adam Curry: I already love I
forgot the file room part. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So this is file
room which is also connected to
the dispatchers and the
dispatchers. Were in this like
kind of a closed group so they
like to keep the door open
because it was like a pain In
the essays they felt like they
were like you know a
claustrophobic and the door was
also led to the fire file room
and when you went to get some
files for some case or other
you're supposed to sign out on
some little sheet and the
dispatchers had really nothing
to do with it. But they were
overseas supposed to sign these
sheets and take the files when
people started just grabbing
files and not taking the sheets
and so they had to go okay,
we're gonna have to do something
about that. So they showed the
open door that the dispatchers
definitely wanted to have
because it was claustrophobic
they they put a chain across the
open door to keep people from
going in and out of the file
room and just grabbing files so
they have to now go through a
process to
Adam Curry: get the file right
this wasn't Feinstein this was
boxer wasn't a boxer no no
John C Dvorak: this fine. Fine
boxers. Boxers got another
story. Oh, boxers The one is
always trying to have a
different story. Yeah, the SEC
story. Yeah, that one. So
Feinstein so that so now we have
the situation you got the
dispatchers in there, and you
have the chain across the door.
And so Feinstein walks past
without even doing any research
or giving she looks at the desk
sees the two women in there.
They're the dispatchers that
sees the chain, and she makes a
big fuss. Why are these women in
behind a chain? This is
terrible. This is an insult to
womanhood. And so she makes a
big fuss and so they have to
take the chain down but now the
problem with the fall room is is
still at issue so they have to
close the doors and now they're
locked in this claustrophobic
area ruining their lives
basically. Thanks for nothing
Dianne Feinstein. So that's the
kind of person she is she's just
jumped to conclusions.
Adam Curry: Boxer was the one
who wanted to get in your boxer
shorts.
John C Dvorak: Boxer was
notorious. Everybody who was an
inspector was in the field and
had cars she would always find
some one of the guys happen to
be working Marin County or
something and try to I was told,
try to not only get them to
drive her home, she didn't play
them in.
Adam Curry: Didn't she want you
to drive around one day panky?
Why didn't she want you to drive
her home one day?
John C Dvorak: No, I've never I
never got off. I never had that
area. I couldn't have driven her
home. Oh, okay. I never worked
in Marin County. Wow, this
Adam Curry: was good. Thanks.
Thanks for the Feinstein
reminder. So so so basically,
though,
John C Dvorak: yes, the SEC was
the beginning of the longer than
it should and that's good. The
answer is
Adam Curry: especially at the at
the local level with the smaller
regional offices. There's a lot
of power power gnomes.
John C Dvorak: Now, yeah,
absolutely. Like
Adam Curry: Louis from taxi, you
know,
John C Dvorak: is exactly true.
And there's no way you have to
assume that let's go to clip for
this very short clip because I
gotta make a comment on it.
Unknown: Let's talk a little bit
about that. Because the
opponents of of overturning
Chevron many environmental
groups, consumer protection
groups and others like that.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: Consumer
Protection you man, I forgot
what I was going to say. So I'm
gonna do it the environmental
groups because there's the
that's where I should have
brought in the irony part of the
story. They're the ones who
caused this to happen. Chevron
deference, as you know, as was
caused against the environmental
groups Hey, what the
deregulation that take place,
but now they're all in on it. So
Adam Curry: indirectly, to think
Bobby, the OP was actually a
problem within Chevron deference
because he was one of these
environmental groups.
John C Dvorak: I have my you
know, after seeing David people
should go read this article
about Cheryl Hines and the
latest copy of The Hollywood
Reporter Hollywood reporter.com
Go to thr.com and read it. It
really brings out a lot of the
op. I mean, when she says well,
you know, she makes us you just
comment you have to assume
something's up when she says
that do other Republicans are
running our rapist.
Adam Curry: She says that in the
interview. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: more or less it
is worded it's couched funny,
but that's basically what she
said. And on trial for rapes, I
think is the way she put it. But
this is like okay, this is Bobby
The Op I'm now convinced after
reading that article in The
Hollywood Reporter that probably
the OP is designed to run
Kennedy as an independent to
take votes away from Trump as a
latch last ditch effort by the
Democrats to get Biden back in
that's the only thing I can have
to conclude after reading that
article. So I'm very skeptical
of him okay. All right, onward
with the clip five
Unknown: of overturning Chevron
many environmental groups,
consumer protection groups and
others like that. argue that
this would would in essence, sow
chaos. What is their argument?
Why do they say Chevron should
Stay, they basically
argued that there's a hidden
agenda in this case beyond the
the hearing fishermen who are
the plaintiffs here, and that
it's they want to paralyze or
cripple the bureaucracy so that
federal agencies cannot make
rules on major problems and
American life, things from air
pollution and maybe eventually
even artificial intelligence as
Justice Elena Kagan raised
today, why to health care, and
say if you return these
decisions to the hands of
unelected federal judges, there
are something like 800 of them
around the country. It risks
people's Medicare and Medicaid
programs, very complex programs
that mean a lot to people's
lives being decided one way in
one state and one way in in
another way in another state,
and that could really sow chaos
for for people's lives, just in
their personal pocketbooks, as
well as for environmental
regulations and workplace
protections. You just can't have
a system where the regs mean
something in one state and mean
something else halfway around
the country.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that's
that's the one thing they never
do is stop and say, Wait a
minute. Yeah, Chevron deference
showed up in 1984. How did we
even get by as a people without
What 1984
Adam Curry: What are we doing it
did nothing work? Did
John C Dvorak: it work and it
couldn't possibly work? So this
is bull crap. They're just
trying to do the same. Oh,
scary. Oh, scare everybody to
dead easy BBB. So anyway, so
there's the last time this
brings in Comey Barrett?
Barrett.
Unknown: I know that in his
confirmation hearings, now
justice Gorsuch expressed a
great deal of skepticism. And I
know some other conservative
justices similarly have shown
some antipathy to regulation.
From your reading of the
arguments today. What is your
sense? Do you think the majority
the conservative majority is
going to strike it down?
We did hear deep skepticism from
Justice Neil Neil Gorsuch today,
he raised a lot of very, very
tough questions for the
Solicitor General. And Justice
Brett Kavanaugh was also pretty
skeptical. Justice Samuel Alito,
along the same lines, and
Clarence Thomas asked a few
questions too, but those William
are four votes, and I didn't
hear a clear fifth vote for
getting rid of this precedent
altogether. In fact, one of the
Trump appointees justice Amy
Coney Barrett, raised the
specter of getting rid of this
precedent might mean, inviting
floodgates of litigation from
1000s of litigants who've had
their cases decided based on
this principle over many years,
and that really swamping the
courts and potentially the
Justice Department, too. So it's
not clear to me there are five
votes to overturn this precedent
all together. It may be that the
court compromises it chips away
further at the precedent,
though.
Adam Curry: Well, that aligns
very closely with what Rob the
constitutional lawyer sent me
because I asked him, of course,
and he said, Of course, I'm
going to I'm going to pay
attention to this for you guys.
I'll read and he also gave me
something from law 360. That is
highlighted some stuff. Here's
what he said. As his boots on
the ground. I went back and
looked at some of the commentary
on the two Chevron deference
cases argued before SCOTUS
yesterday, the Loper bright
enterprise versus Raimundo and
relentless Inc versus Department
of Commerce. As you know, the
question is yours just how much
deference the court should give
to regulatory agencies
interpretations of the
legislation? They're in charge
of enforcing since 1984? The
answer has been a lot. As long
as the agency's interpretation
is permissible courts will adopt
it as law. This creates a
tension. The Constitution
charges Congress with making
laws and the judiciary with
interpreting them. It does not
charge the executive branch with
either function. Still, the
agencies who presumably have the
expertise usually need to fill
in lots of details to do their
jobs. But how deeply should the
courts bow to their
interpretations? He said,
depending on who you talk to the
word is that most of the
justices seem reluctantly
amenable to diluting Chevron
deference but how much many
including Justice Barrett,
worried that SCOTUS decision
might gut the existing agency
interpretations, unleashing a
flood of litigation over now
reopened questions others say
this concern is overblown, since
one most of the agency
interpretations are probably
right and two, if not they need
to be challenged. And he says he
attached a highlighted law 360
With five takeaways from Paul
Clemente and I put that in the
show notes. In a nutshell
Clemente says the Congressman
can use friends in the executive
branch to get things done,
instead of slogging through the
presentment compromise in by
camera realism hurdles that make
statutes comparatively hard to
enact. To paraphrase Obama
regulatory action requires
nothing more than a phone and a
pen. And so they actually that
sounded like that report was was
pretty spot on. And they proud.
I think they'll dilute it. But
they'll do something so they
somehow they can't get all these
all these lawsuits reopened
again. I don't know how they do
that.
John C Dvorak: But well, we'll
find out soon enough, but this
thing should go. Oh,
Adam Curry: what what a joy it
would be for, for the work.
John C Dvorak: By the way, when
I worked at the, at this
administrative state, and they
already were lording it over
everybody else. That was before
Chevron deference.
Adam Curry: Oh, is that long
ago? So you were already a
little Hitler's before it that
happened? Imagine what
John C Dvorak: all the way I see
it. Chevron deference once the
Republicans got out of office,
because when the Republicans
were in office, don't forget,
the Chevron deference began as a
way to deregulate. That's the
funny part. That's the irony.
And then once they got out the
this is the problem with
everything is, you know, you
switch parties, and the next
thing you know, they go nuts the
other way. And they started
abusing power, which is what's
been going on this is why the
gun shops get closed. Because
the the ATF and others they
create new rules. And there's
stories about some gun shop
owner that forgot to put a Yeah,
yeah. And they closed the shop.
Yeah, got to sign his name
properly, or print his name
under a signature. And so they
close the shop. All this is all
a result of Chevron deference.
Everything bad that's happening
in the administrative state is
the is the fault of Chevron
deference again, 1984 It's when
it began. And it's just gotten
to the point where it's gotta
go. And if there's cases if a
bunch of cases show up because
Comey Baird doesn't want to do
any work. Or she's just you
know, still thinking like a
judge that's out there. Leave
Adam Curry: it she she's the
only true white Christian there.
She should be all Magga is
what's wrong with her.
John C Dvorak: That's always the
irony of these things. I would
like to
Adam Curry: take us back to
Episode 1337 of this very
podcast. Have a listen to
minutes. This funny do that.
Okay, great. So I get in the car
and I driven it before I'm
sitting down and he drives off
in the truck. I'm like, I forgot
how to start this thing. That's
how stupid it was, like, already
starts off the car is stupid.
You don't have to start it. You
just got to put it into Drive. I
can I was looking for a button.
You know, like my truck has a
button. You press the button,
the car starts. So that's how
disoriented I was. But anyway, I
remember how it works. I started
driving and he left me with
about it said 200 miles on the
on the range the range meter. So
I started driving. Now this is a
multiple
John C Dvorak: you stopped this
clip. You're you referenced in
that clip that you're just
starting to play. I've driven it
before. That's the report where
you went on and on about how
great it was not the second
report or the third report or
what you say today. So this is a
nonsense what you're doing.
Adam Curry: I never did a report
other than this one. No.
John C Dvorak: I've you first
drove it you do gave a report.
Adam Curry: All right. I'll just
put it in the show notes. People
can listen for themselves.
You're right. I probably
shouldn't embarrass you any
further.
John C Dvorak: Not an
embarrassment. You're just
proving my point. No, there is
no report in that report. You
yourself said I've driven it
before and blah blah blah.
That's when that's when the
first report came out because
you talked about driving it the
first time you are
Adam Curry: mediocre. This is
not true. This is the report
where I said the thing is
dangerous. I said it almost ran
me off the road it was horrible.
That's
John C Dvorak: right and I'm not
arguing but this report is what
I'm talking about are
Adam Curry: people find find the
previous report because it
doesn't exist. They will the
only report
John C Dvorak: is rarely
Moonbase as they'll find it.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Boy, you really hurt
me with that one Oof. Boy,
Israeli Moonbase is that
John C Dvorak: you are in denial
about that for God at least a
year. I've
Adam Curry: never said that.
I've never gone back on that.
I've always said there was
Israeli Moon bases I've never
said
John C Dvorak: There you go
shabby never. Everyone knows
what you're doing. Nice try.
Adam Curry: How about we talk
about the latest scare that is
has everybody all up in arms?
Because it's back. It's back
disease X disease X is back and
the Chinese are doing it disease
Unknown: X is a term for a
hypothetical illness, one that
has not happened and is
currently unknown. In this
scenario, experts from around
the globe are evaluating what
would happen and what we would
need to do in order to prepare
for a virus that could claim up
to 20 times more law is the
COVID 19 pandemic. in Davos, the
disease X scenario took center
stage Wednesday, you may
even call COVID as the first
disease X. And it may happen
again, the WHO
Director General acknowledges
tough lessons were learned
during COVID-19.
We lost many people because we
couldn't manage them. They could
have been saved, but they
couldn't marry them. There's no
space, there was no enough. So
how can you have a system that
can expand when the need comes?
This
bioethics professor says the
pandemic showed us how one
disease absorbing all available
resources can lead to other
health issues falling through
the cracks.
A cancer diagnosis did not take
place with very severe
consequences for the people that
were affected.
Blink says there are also
ethical questions to consider
when preparing for the next big
health emergency.
Do we try to limit the number of
of lives that we lose? Or do we
limit the number of life years
that we lose? To what extent
should we be concerned about
equity considerations or we're
just concerned about health
outcomes?
he cautions Canada is not ready.
There will be
wholly unprepared for this
because we are under resourced.
We don't have the staff and we
don't have the bits available.
So it will be a major problem
obviously,
anything happening is a matter
of when not if
Adam Curry: so, so this is
picked up by outfits around the
world because now we have a
report there's an actual report
someone has a report and gravi
toss India this is where Paki
palki Sharma is used to work
they've got the the crux of it
that
Unknown: Sinai is asked again,
it's playing with fire. What I
mean to say is, it is
experimenting with a deadly new
COVID-19 stream as per report
and this one has a mortality
rate of 100%. Right. None of
those who have been infected
with it has survived.
Adam Curry: When I heard that
I'm like what people have been
infected and they died that none
of the people who are infected
with this new disease x this new
virus from China have survived
what Tada look
Unknown: at this report
published in bio RX iwi doctors
trained by Chinese People's
Liberation Army are conducting
these experiments. They have
made their own version of
Coronavirus found in pangolins.
The scientists administer this
labmate virus in mice. Guess
what they discovered, mice
started losing weight blockers
their eyes went white. All of
this happened after five days of
being infected. The virus threat
to their eyes, their lungs and
even the brain. All four mice
infected with the new COVID-19
stream died in eight days. In
the last two days of their
lives, the virus increased in
the brains significantly what
caused the deaths. Researchers
suggest it was severe brain
infection. The intensity of this
new strain is astounding. And it
has set alarm bells ringing by
the way, Chinese scientists have
issued warnings they fear the
virus strain can spill over to
human beings. And what would
happen then would lead to a
pandemic all over again.
Adam Curry: So this this type of
reporting has Oh, No one
survived. It turns out it was
mice and they turned into first
they lost weight which is a
groovy and then the the eyes
went white and a brain disease
and they all died and it's all
China. It's gotten so crazy that
we got a Fox News poll
everyone's talking about on
Twitter x. Let's bring in
Redfield Redfield, you recall
was the CDC director who left
during the pandemic. And he's
back to this
Unknown: morning growing
concerns as we learned growing
consumers are experimenting with
a mutant COVID strain 100% A
Adam Curry: mutant mutant COVID
strain Oh, who writes this
stuff? Scientists
Unknown: are experimenting with
a mutant COVID strain 100%
lethal in mice. Despite critics
warning this research could
spark another pandemic. Former
CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield
is here to react. Good morning,
Dr. Redfield.
Adam Curry: Good morning. What
are you here for? I'm here to
react again. Why
Unknown: would they do this
again?
Well, you know, as Lee I'm very
much against the wisdom of doing
this gain of function research.
I mean, I'm of the view that the
original COVID pandemic was a
direct consequence of laboratory
research that helped educate the
virus to become more
transmissible, human to human,
not more pathogenic. And the
work you talk about today is
work that they're doing that
actually is changing the
pathogenicity of these viruses,
I think until we really have a
better debate about whether
there's any value in this gain
of function research, we ought
to have a moratorium on it. And
clearly we don't have the bio
containment up to par to do this
kind of research. I think it's
very dangerous. But
Adam Curry: what's really
dangerous is the reporting on
all this and how This swirls
around on social media and
before you know it, disease X is
a thing. And it's happening. But
there's something he said in
this not only the second one,
the second clip that made me
connect a few dots. People
Unknown: have been wondering if
it was Fred because of a lab
leak and his ex boss was talking
to Congress. That headline on
Fox News is Fauci is ex boss now
says COVID-19 lab leak theory
was credible, despite previous
claims, it was a distraction. So
now he's saying that, but he
downplayed it when he was
interviewed with Bret Baier back
in 2021, listen to this,
I'm really sorry that the lab
leak has become such a
distraction for so many people,
because frankly, we still don't
know there is no evidence,
really, to most of the
scientific community, myself
included, think that is a
possibility. But far more
likely, this was a natural way
in which a virus left a bat
maybe traveled through some
other species and got to humans.
But
now he's saying it is credibly
told Congress that how can we
trust the NIH? And why is he
changing his story now?
Well, you know, I'm very
disappointed in both him and
Fauci that they didn't provide
the scientific leadership in
January, February of 2022,
aggressively investigate both
hypotheses to spill over in the
lab leak. That's normally what
the scientific community would
do. Instead, they very rapidly
sort of rally the troops around
one idea that just had to come
from a spillover even though I
will say over the last three to
four years, all the evidence
that's been gathered points more
towards lab leaks. And, and
obviously, we haven't found any
evidence to support the
spillover. Now, they did this, I
think largely because they
thought they were protecting
science. And the science that
they were protecting, is this
gain of function research that
they want to do. But in fact,
they did the opposite. I think
we've lost a lot of credibility
in both NIH and unfortunately,
CDC because of their lack of
transparency.
Adam Curry: So here's what I
some dots I connect, because you
know, I'm, I'm a no virus guy,
you definitely say there's a bio
weapon. We had dinner earlier
this week with the ER doctor.
And I said, Tell me what is.
This seems like it was just the
flu people were dying from the
flu from fear. He says, this is
I just connected this this
morning. He says yes, but he
says, I saw people with this
white lung stuff. He says, that
was some kind of bio weapon. Is
it perhaps possible that a bio
weapon, an actual bio weapon was
accidentally released, then I'm
just gonna say it was us whether
it was the labs we had in
Ukraine, which would make total
sense gotta clean that up, or
whether it was for Dietrich, but
some bio weapon got out. And
maybe that was the early or
maybe I was wrong about those
early cartridges, you know, the
vape cartridges that people gave
them white lung and they died,
maybe that was an actual bio
weapon. And to cover it up. They
came up with this whole COVID
thing.
John C Dvorak: This seems to
elaborate to me. Okay. All
right.
Adam Curry: For sure. They no
one seems to be able to come to
terms with what is happening. We
have a excess Dez in the UK,
which is being actively
discussed in parliament there
10% 7% year on year, it should
in fact, be going down. It
should be a deficit. But it's
not it's going up. And now we
are seeing this here in the
United States. It's showing up
with these cancers and younger
people. And what could it come
from an
Unknown: alarming trend?
Colorectal cancer is now the
leading cause of cancer deaths
in men under the age of 50. And
the second among women of the
same age.
We do suspect a something in the
environment. But what that is,
we don't know likely it's a
combination of things that's
affecting our microbiomes or our
immune systems that may be
leading to why this is
happening. younger and younger.
Dr.
Kimmy ng is an oncologist at
Boston's Dana Farber Cancer
Institute. And he's seen a
dramatic increase in patients in
their 20s and 30s. Younger
people tend to have more
advanced cancers, correct?
Yes, the majority of our young
patients who are diagnosed
unfortunately are diagnosed with
either stage three or four
colorectal cancer.
Adam Curry: That was NBC CBS has
a similar report. I do
Unknown: want to ask you about
the American Cancer Society
today reporting colon cancer is
killing more young men and women
than ever before. You are a
gastroenterologist what is going
on?
Yet? We've been concerned about
this. We've seen that younger
people are increasingly
affected, which is why the
guidelines for initial screening
for people at average risk has
fallen from 50 to 45. Why has it
done that? Well, maybe there's
something in the environment
something we're eating are
increasing obesity, which is
linked to an increased risk for
colon cancer. Is it our
inactivity? Or is it something
in the microbiome, the trillions
of bacteria in our gut and
somehow the environment,
something we're eating or
antibiotics are changing that
and increasing the risk? We
don't know. But we're going to
end with good news, which is
that every year for the last 30
years, the total deaths from
colon cancer have dropped, which
is a terrific achievement. But
today's report shows us we can't
be complacent and we really have
to screen screening works. You
need to talk to your healthcare
provider
Adam Curry: these people Kockums
razor for a moment people.
That's really what a disservice
they're doing what a disservice.
Unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: They just don't
want to come to grips with the
thesis that is the vaccine is
causing these issues. We had a
guy just dropped another drug
suddenly dropped dead to some a
heart attack. 45 years old. I'm
one of the executives of New
Warriors, you know, and it's
just like, okay.
Adam Curry: Yeah, like, exactly,
huh, whoa, whatever. It's
unbelievable. It really is.
It's not everybody, by the way.
Don't don't all get freaked out.
But it seems so obvious. And
it's never discussed. Never.
They just can't touch it.
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. Because who's the leading
advertiser on television and the
news media is they've captured
it's a captured is a captured
situation captured, captured is
the word. Yes. That's the word
of the day. Let's go to this.
You had NATO guy on earlier,
because you were doing that
thing on the data. Bags. Yeah.
Here's another one of these guys
is discussing the Ukraine war
with an ex NATO hotshot. on PBS.
This is quite entertaining. They
reported
Unknown: earlier negotiations
over funding for border
security. Earlier today I spoke
with former NATO Secretary
General Anders full Grace mucin.
About what this means as
Russia's war in Ukraine enters
its third year. And as well,
Ross mucin. Thank you so much
for being here. Welcome to the
NewsHour. Thank you for having
me. So I want to ask you about
US lawmakers inability so far,
to reach a deal on immigration
that would allow Ukraine aid to
move forward. You've said
previously you would advise
Democrats to accommodate
Republicans on the border, cut a
deal get the aid flowing. I know
you're meeting with House
Freedom Caucus members tomorrow.
What's your advice to them? My
advice would be to do what it
takes to ensure that Ukraine
wins the war against Russia,
because it is detrimental for
the US national security
interest. If Russia wins this
war, we cannot allow Putin any
success in Ukraine. There
is a very real chance that
former President Donald Trump
will be the Republican nominee
that he could win in November.
If aid for Ukraine does not move
forward under the Biden
administration. Do you believe
it could move forward under
President Trump? Yes,
we don't know. As a point of
departure. I'm skeptical. When
you look forward, though, into
the months ahead and what could
happen here in the US you've
said that even if Mr. Trump
doesn't win, you said his
nomination alone could be a
geopolitical catastrophe. Why?
Adam Curry: I didn't get any
clips, but Zelinsky was in Davao
Dubbo. And he was is he was
talking about the peace formula.
Peace formula, which is unclear.
Anyway, and he was meeting with
the bankers he was there.
They're meeting about the
reconstruction already. They
gotta end this thing. But this
guy's a military guy just wants
to sell more things that go
boom.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'd like to
know I'm watching PBS is in
America is I think PBS is United
States, right? It's not I'm not
getting a feed from Mexico. Are
you sure? I don't know who's so
why is this guy even being
interviewed at all? And why is
he up on Capitol Hill? chatting
it up with the Peace coalition
and whoever else is there? What
is he got to do with the slice
of Buddha slice? Because you got
to do with rice or bread or the
slice for that matter? What is
this guy sales got to do with
anything and let alone being it.
This is beyond me.
Adam Curry: He's a sales guy
he's selling for the military
industrial complex.
Unknown: It goes on his part
too, because I have seen that.
The fact that he is around the
fact that he probably will be
nominated as the Republican
presidential can The date
already that has changed the way
international actors, they take
decisions, they try to hedge
their bets. and in Europe, for
instance, there is a great
concern that a new
administration might be more
inward looking more
isolationist, that they will
leave Europe behind. I don't
think that would be in the
interest of the United States to
weaken its alliances across the
Atlantic. On the contrary, we
should strengthen the
Transatlantic Alliance.
Can I ask you about what we've
seen in the US public, though,
which is some decline in support
for continuing the same level of
us funding for Ukraine, and
specifically, this idea that
European nations should be doing
more? Should Europe be bearing
more of the security burden,
especially when it comes to
Ukraine? Yes.
And we are doing so latest
figures demonstrate that Europe
has now overtaken the US when it
comes both to military
assistance and direct financial
assistance led late last year?
Yes, we are not speaking about
pledges who is being about real
money. When it comes to the
military. According to those
figures, Europe has contributed
54 billion euros, the US 44
billion euros dye
Adam Curry: question those
numbers. I do too, I thought we
were well over 100 billion.
John C Dvorak: I think this
guy's full of crap. Well,
Adam Curry: you got to catch up
people that can't have the
European spending more on
military stuff we need to spend.
John C Dvorak: And then you can
kind of tell when you listen to
his last clip, which is that
what they want us to do, which
is give them everything,
including the most high tech of
high tech products. So the
Russians guy geskin would get a
hold of them and copy them or
the Chinese because that's what
they're going to end up
happening. If you do that. I
just thought this was a
disgusting example of PBS.
Bringing in some this guy, this
guy annoys me, let's play.
Unknown: I appreciate that the
Europeans contribute more, they
should, we should do so. But it
cannot replace a continued US
assistance. We need both. We
need sophisticated weapons
delivered by the United States.
And we need more weapons. We
need to lift all self imposed
restrictions on weapon
deliveries to Ukraine. So the
mantra that we will help Ukraine
for as long as it takes, it
should be replaced with we will
give to Ukraine. All it takes to
win the war.
There's been a lot of criticism
that had the US and NATO Allies
done that sooner the war might
have been over by now Ukraine
would be in a different
position. It took 300 days into
the war for the US, for example,
to provide long range missiles
President Solinsky had been
asking for. Was that a mistake?
Yes, it's really. I mean, it's a
sad story to see our hesitation.
And the reason why they equate
the Ukrainian counteroffensive
have been so difficult, and so
modest, is that we took much too
long time to take necessary
decisions. You cannot win a war
by an incremental step by step
approach. You have to overwhelm
and surprise your adversary. We
failed to do that.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Well,
there's a plan. They got a plan.
Because yes, is no longer
pulling his weight. Jens
Stoltenberg. He's not doing it.
He's not getting you know, he
sits in Davos. He's got the he's
living it up doing caviar bumps.
And you know that we need more
war to make peace. It's like I'm
here, but he's been there for 10
years. He's been he's contracts
been extended over and over
again. And now they're looking
for a new leader. It's
Unknown: been one of the most
popular guessing games in
Brussels for years. Who will
replace Jens Stoltenberg, the
Norwegian NATO chief has been
asked to stay on as head of the
Western military alliance four
times, once, even after he'd
already accepted another job. It
is time for NATO leaders to find
a good candidate. It's really
important that a choice is made
early enough and that it is
delinked from both the European
union elections and the campaign
for the United States elections.
Just why
the alliance has been unable to
find a suitable replacement is
not exactly clear, in part
because There's no official
procedure for doing so. There
has been an unofficial list of
desired qualities experienced as
a head of state or government of
a country with robust defense
spending from a southern or
Eastern ally and preferably
finally a woman. Many names have
come up and gone down. Currently
Latvian Foreign Minister
Christianity's current Estonian
Prime Minister Kaya goalless and
outgoing Dutch Prime Minister
Mark Ruta all want the job route
it has gradually emerged as the
clear favorite, a safer choice
with Moscow's war on Ukraine
dominating the Alliance agenda.
Adam Curry: So I've been
following this for a while
because Margaret, of course is
Dutch. The Prime Minister was
prime minister for 12 years or
something. If they want a woman
that's the guy you want. Get him
if they want a woman put him in
charge. He's to he was in HR at
at Unilever. Before he became
prime minister. He is a as we
say in the old country, a silk
sock. He's just a worse he's
silk
Unknown: sauce
silk sock.
John C Dvorak: He has what they
call an old country.
Adam Curry: Zetas sock, silk
sock?
John C Dvorak: Well, we're while
we're on the topic of the old
country, we might as well play
this clip. Oh, boy. This is
Claire Daly going off on Biden.
Yet. This
Adam Curry: is this is a nice
little rant. Our old Claire did
despite
Unknown: the catastrophic death
toll it has inflicted, Israel is
losing on the ground. And in the
courts of public opinion.
There's no way that this ends
that doesn't leave Israel, a
pariah state with occupation and
apartheid on borrowed time. And
they know it. So they're doing
everything they can desperate
acts of aggression to provoke a
wider conflict with Lebanon with
Iran with anybody to draw in the
US to save them from the
consequences of their own
actions. And as Yemen shows,
butcher Biden is reporting for
juicy so take notes, butcher by
the ancestors of the Ireland
that you claim to be from disown
you keep our company out of your
mouth,
Adam Curry: butcher Biden, they
need to chant they need to
chant, I need a chance to
incorporate that. I just want to
go back to your military
industrial complex for a moment,
because they're having such a
hard time just keeping with the
show theme here. having such a
hard time finding a body double
for Lloyd Austin. There just
can't
John C Dvorak: be It can't be
done there. Just yet to find an
ex NFL guy. Probably a lineman.
Yeah. And he's got to be the
last like six for some problem
because you can get the fridge.
Tonight, you have to be careful
about who you're hiring nowadays
if you need it if he's going to
need a body double, because some
guys are just going to be hard
to replace. I know Trump I'm
sure there's two of them. So
they're distracting us
Adam Curry: with the 911. Call
tonight
Unknown: ABC News obtaining the
911 call requesting an ambulance
at the home of Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin after complications
from the surgery. He kept a
secret at first oh nine
John C Dvorak: federal employee
called Yeah, it took them this
long to create a phony 911 call
for the for the media.
Adam Curry: Have you heard the
call is great. Oh, the call is
fantastic. And listen to the
call like I got some of the
call. 911
Unknown: Where's your emergency?
Tonight the 911 call just
obtained by CBS News reveals an
aide to Secretary of Defense
Lloyd Austin asked the
dispatcher to keep the emergency
discreet.
They can ambulance not show up
with lights and sirens. We're
trying to remain a little
subtle. Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, usually when they turn
into a residential neighborhood,
they'll turn them off, but
they're required by law to run
with them with the Main Street.
The operator then asks for
details about Austin's can
What's
Adam Curry: your question?
John C Dvorak: What is this
nonsense about turning the
lights on and off and
Adam Curry: well they didn't
want to want to keep it subtle
you know? Because we know we
don't want what's your Biden to
know I guess I don't know this
is this is some helper at his at
his resume
John C Dvorak: this is a no I've
just not that I did not you
mention it is so that when when
they canvass anyone in his
neighborhood about the the
ambulance they kill I don't
remember. Because there was no
lights and sirens Yes, exactly.
Yeah. Like he's gonna pass out.
Oh,
Adam Curry: you mean so? Oh,
that's a good point. Well, it
was done on the Qt on the DL. So
yeah, so no one no no witnesses
John C Dvorak: policy because if
you did listen to her as a
policy that you keep the license
overnight and the main drags but
when you go into the residential
areas, you turn them off. Yes.
Unknown: Austin was taken to the
hospital on New Year's Day with
an infection that stemmed from
complications and After surgery
to treat prostate cancer just
over two weeks earlier, in a
statement, Austin's doctor said
he had severe pain in his leg,
hip and abdomen from
Adam Curry: the shrapnel.
Unknown: I'm just curious if we
need to take him to Walter Reed
medical, is that a possibility?
Let them know that when they get
there, like I said, I'm noting
all this in the call the
911 call adds to questions about
why President Biden did not find
out about Austin's
hospitalization for three days.
Neither did his deputy who had
taken over Austin's duties while
she was on vacation in Puerto
Rico. Despite calls for Austin's
resignation. The president says
he's not considering firing him.
I do.
Yes, but tonight The Pentagon
has not responded to our request
for a comment about that 911
Call. The inspector general
though continues to investigate
why it took Austin so long to
disclose his hospitalization,
all
Adam Curry: distraction. And
then of course, he's now
released, we still don't have
him waving from the balcony
defense
Unknown: secretary Lloyd Austin
was released from Walter Reed
Medical Center today after being
treated for complications that
follow up prostate cancer
surgery. His treatment and
complications had been kept
secret for days, prompting
widespread criticism. The
Pentagon said Austin will
continue to recuperate and
perform his duties from home
Adam Curry: and now they're
saying they think he may need
additional care is not good.
They
John C Dvorak: where's he waving
from the balcony. I don't know
if maybe some new listeners just
showed up for the show should
know what the thesis is, which
we're kind of skirting, which is
that he was killed in a Ukraine
attack. He was in Ukraine on the
first or the second of January,
and he got killed in a in a in
an attack. And so now they're
trying to if they haven't come
up with a good story yet for
ways missing. I mean, they're
working on it. They're working
on it as we can tell.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, we have.
We've got a kerfuffle down here
in Texas. Now we're Texas is
fighting the federal government.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: it's a good
story. Do you have any? I have
two clips. Tonight tragedy on
the Rio Grande escalating a
border battle between the ocean
and Texas centered around
federal authorities access to
the border. The Department of
Homeland Security issuing a
letter to the State's Attorney
General demanding Texas
immediately cease and desist any
actions. Now blog Border Patrol
has full access to the US Mexico
border in and around the Shelby
Park area. That Eagle Pass park
near where a migrant woman and
two children drowned late
Friday. The rescue response
highly disputed. The White House
stating Texas officials blocked
US Border Patrol from attempting
to save the migrants. Texas
authorities calling that wholly
inaccurate sharing by the time
Border Patrol requested access.
Mexican authorities were already
recovering the bodies.
Unknown: It's devastating to
imagine that state officials
would know that people were
drowning in the river
particularly children and block
Border Patrol from going and
saving them.
John C Dvorak: Just hours before
the drownings the state's
governor defending its border
presence. Texas has the legal
authority to control ingress and
egress into any geographic
location in the state of Texas.
Back in Eagle Pass 700 white
crosses marking the estimated
migrant deaths over the last
year. And tonight DHS is giving
Texas that deadline of this
Wednesday to stop blocking
border patrol or that will
further matter to the Department
of Justice.
Adam Curry: Civil War maybe
Civil War as Tim Poole can be
civil war and pull up to say
that Civil War Civil War. CBS
had to report to the
Unknown: Texas National Guard
abruptly seized control of a two
and a half mile stretch of the
southern border last week. DHS
says on Friday federal Border
Protection agents requested
access to the area where a group
of migrants was attempting to
cross the Rio Grande but Texas
officials refused a woman and
her two children drowned in a
cease and desist letter to the
Texas Attorney General. The top
lawyer for DHS said Texas is
failure to provide access to the
border persists, even in
instances of imminent danger to
life and safety. Calling the
state's actions clearly
unconstitutional.
It's all politics, visual
politics. Texas Congressman
Henry Cuellar says this state
prevented federal aid ants from
using specialized equipment to
save the migrants who died.
A scope truck is a truck that
has this camera that can see
what's happened in the river
that could have had an impact of
what happened here.
What is your message to Governor
Abbott?
You cannot do this type of
standoff is not helpful. The
Texas
military department says two of
the migrants had already drowned
by the time Border Patrol asked
to enter the area. Governor Greg
Abbott says he has the legal
authority to control areas of
the southern border within state
boundaries authority is being
asserted with regard to that
park and Eagle Pass Texas to
maintain operational control of
Texas blames the Biden
administration for not doing
enough. It has also installed
controversial razor wire and
changed the law to allow state
police officers to apprehend
migrants, Texas has until
Wednesday to comply with the
cease and desist letter to stop
blocking access to the border.
If it fails, DHS says it will
refer the matter to the
Department of Justice to take
appropriate action
John C Dvorak: and desist letter
does this suggestion.
Adam Curry: The boats what's the
whole thing is so strange
because we've got the governor
of Illinois Pritzker taking out
ads in our papers here saying
please, please, Governor Abbott,
stop sending them to Chicago,
New York is overrun. They now
have to have a curfew for
migrants
John C Dvorak: they should be
happy and we should mention we
should mention that abas total
number of people sent to New
York for example is 10%. Yeah,
the total of migrants that are
there have to 90% sent by our
government. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. I know. But you
know, then they just bring in
the oh what a mom and two kids
died, which of course is
horrible. This whole thing is
horrible as a human catastrophe.
But if you say no moss, no,
that's a Spanish for no. If you
say no, you can't come in
anymore. People will stop
coming. But that's not the plan.
John C Dvorak: Though they want
it or they
Adam Curry: totally want an
awesome beach and this is
happening everywhere in the
world. The UK,
John C Dvorak: I have an
international conspiracy. It
truly isn't
Adam Curry: international
conspiracy. This is the UK. You
recall the plan there by the
Conservative Party. Rishi
shamrock was to send them to
Rwanda
John C Dvorak: which I still
love. I
Adam Curry: still well, they
they passed it they can send
them to Rwanda but nobody likes
Unknown: it the eyes to the
right 320 the nose to the left
276 In
the end, only a handful of
Conservative MPs voted against
the government. The promise
rebellion against a new version
of the Rwanda plan melted away.
And Rishi Sunak avoided a
serious political defeat on his
own MPs still don't think his
new law is tough enough.
Migrants will be able to appeal
their deportation too easily.
Judges in the European Court of
Human Rights will still be able
to block flights to Rwanda. We
have Sunak insisted making it
tougher will put the UK in
breach of international
agreements. The law will work as
a deterrent. It is important
that we stop the votes because
illegal migration is simply not
fair. It's not right, that some
people jumped the queue.
Adam Curry: That, by the way, is
a good line in the UK. But all
you gotta do is hey, these
people tried to jump the queue.
Now the pitchforks come out,
that they
Unknown: take away our resources
to help those who are the most
compassionate that need our most
help, and by the way, Mr.
Speaker are exploited by gangs,
and many of them lose their
lives making these dangerous
crossing. Last year, the UK
Supreme Court ruled the original
Rwanda plan was illegal because
the judges said Rwanda was not a
Safe Third Country. This new law
aims to address those concerns,
strengthen his legal status and
allow flights to Rwanda to start
in a few months. The rebel said
he was still too vulnerable to
legal delay. We have
to get people out of the country
within days, not months. And the
operational plan behind this
bill foresees that people will
take months to be removed from
the country.
The Labour opposition said no
version of the plan will ever
work. Immigration here and
across Europe is a key election
issue. Governments everywhere
are under pressure to control
their borders
Adam Curry: everywhere,
everywhere, everywhere,
everywhere. So international
conspiracy is right apnea and
everyone loves it because
China's dead more reports
China's popular nation is
dwindling and as the former New
York banker said we win because
we have more people and I hear
more and more people saying you
know we need you know people to
take care of our children to
polish our shoes to clean our
toilets. We need this we need
this we're very rich here we
need that. Where's anyway stupid
I got a boots on the ground from
the region. From the realest
region, the region would be the
Red Sea region regarding the the
boat, the museum the tourist
attraction,
John C Dvorak: oh yes, yes, we
need a boots on the ground
report on that.
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
reports secondhand boots on the
ground here doing some
significant tile work for a
higher up at traveler's
insurance. I started talking to
him about supply chain you fill
me in about the first boat that
was taken and turned into a
tourist attraction. See?
John C Dvorak: This is good.
Hilarious already.
Adam Curry: This is good.
Travelers insures that ship. He
says that the ransom for the
crew was $5 million, and they
are about to cut a check for it.
The owner of the boat company
Meyer SC doesn't want the check
to be cut but instead wants
travelers to send in a squad to
extract the crew. Traveler says
No way. He's trying to get the
crew released via the ransom
payment instead. So ransom that
no one mentioned that part. I
John C Dvorak: haven't heard
anything about a ransom. No, of
course, all I heard was about
the tourist attraction, which I
still think probably bullcrap.
But it's great
Adam Curry: story. And then,
overnight, we had a little
kerfuffle between Iran and
Pakistan. And the minute I heard
the report, I remembered this
region.
Unknown: What do we know about
the Pakistan strikes?
They say that they've targeted
Aluche militants. That's a
separatist group that actually
operates within Pakistan. But
they're saying they targeted
them on Iranian territory. But
of course, this is widely being
seen as retaliation or a show of
strength after Iran actually
conducted missile and airstrikes
on Pakistan's territory on a
militant group a few days ago.
So now both Pakistan and Iran
have now attacked militants on
each other's soil, could this
escalate further? It's quite
unclear what's going to happen
next. But there are real
concerns and fears, particularly
here in Islamabad that things
could escalate. Pakistan's
caretaker Prime Minister was in
Davos for the World Economic
Forum. And he has actually said
he's cutting short his trip and
coming back to Pakistan in the
wake of these strikes. However,
analysts have spoken to have
said that Pakistan probably
wouldn't want an escalation, and
that players such as China,
which has ties with both Iran
and Pakistan, could well step in
to try and help temper down the
tensions.
And how do these exchanges fit
into the wider conflict in the
Middle East,
it is quite difficult to say
Iran, nations actually remain
quite opaque for the initial
stripes. However, Iran has also
carried out strides on Iraq and
Syria in recent days and around
foreign minister has indicated
that it did target militants
that it said will link to Israel
within Pakistan, though we don't
have a lot more information on
that and Pakistan and the
militant group involved have not
said anything on that. But
obviously there are concerns
that it could be part of these
broader regional escalations.
This
Adam Curry: is That's bull crap.
This is Baluchistan. And since I
remember things so well
Baluchistan, that is right by
the Afghan border. We had drones
flying around all the time. This
was a huge problem because of
pipelines, and some other
things. And if we go back to
Episode 1273, from 2020 This was
one of your clips. This is about
Belton road.
Unknown: In June, the CCP
launched its plans for a
transportation corridor to
Uzbekistan, that goes through
Kurdistan as business news
website and telling his reports
whoever the program to build a
railway has met with quote
unending construction delays.
The program now relies on
freight shipping through
Kurdistan where anti CCP
sentiments are growing and the
issues that CCP faces in
Kurdistan are similar to what
the Chinese regime is facing and
similar projects, including in
Tajikistan, and Balochistan. And
all of these areas, China is
becoming the target of terrorist
and nationalist movements that
are increasingly viewing the
regime as their main enemy. To
counter this, the CCP has been
giving training to local
government forces and also
encouraging them to defend
China's shipping lines on its
behalf. But it's now becoming
clear this may not be enough.
Now, where's this all heading?
When it comes to the way the
Chinese Communist Party is
trying to protect it? supply
chains when it comes to shipping
along this, say One Belt, One
Road initiative, its current
method when dealing with
terrorist organizations and
others is to get the local
countries to defend its own
supply chains. These countries a
lot of times, however, do not
want to get involved with
terrorist organizations and
fighting against them on behalf
of the Chinese Communist Party.
And so the CCP is now being left
with that effort. And what's it
going to do well as two options,
one is send the Chinese military
in to protect its supply chains,
but doing that as sensitive as
well, because for example,
imagine that the Chinese
military gets in a shootout with
different to say, you know,
radical groups of one kind or
another in these countries.
Well, it's gonna look a whole
lot like what happened in India
along this border dispute where
the Chinese military killed
around 20 Indian soldiers and
turn pretty much all of India
against the CCP.
Adam Curry: This is Belton road
this is someone messing with the
Chinese and it may be us for all
I know I'm convinces us Yeah,
then probably and I'm also the
Ron cook keeps keep coming
John C Dvorak: back don't let it
go directly at Iran. But you
know what, what nation has
nukes?
Adam Curry: Via Pakistan, India,
Pakistan, Pakistan Pakistan has
nukes Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: now you want to
get their phony baloney
conflagration with Iran and
Pakistan and then a nuke goes
flying and hits some I don't
know the Enclave or all the
Mulas live you know the housing
development boom blow that up
affordable housing for the
moolah affordable housing for
them and and oh Pakistan Oh then
then you create all kinds of
issues because now you got to do
a more bigger look at
disarmament and all these other
things because it was careless
or was an accident or and we got
nothing to do with it. We're
over here trying to be your
shoot a few who's the basis? I
do have a three by three foot I
Adam Curry: was hoping you'd
have on an hour time for a three
by three everybody experiment by
JC D here we go everyone
comparing ABC CBS and NBC my
buddy my buddy Michael actually
the whole band Mercy Me they
always say that whenever that
day get happy when they hear the
jingle the three by three jingle
they get happy. Say Happy
jingles happy jingle and they're
just happy because they know
something good is coming. We're
gonna we're gonna we're going to
see how the media gets all of
its information from one source
game one system one source and
including the sound effects
everything. What do we have in
today's
John C Dvorak: first of all, we
have the same big three but I do
have the bonus again this show
BBC bonus. Always different is
gonna be CBC. The Scandinavian
bonus. Right? Yeah. So let's
start with ABC,
Adam Curry: ABC, everybody. Here
we go.
Unknown: desperate search for
two Navy SEALs missing at sea in
the Gulf of Aden during that
during nighttime mission. These
new images tonight showing the
US efforts to disrupt the flow
of weapons to Iranian backed
Houthi rebels while boarding a
suspected Yemeni weapons
smuggling boat. One Navy SEAL
fell into the sea following
protocol. Another senior NCO
jumping in after him the
operation continuing with the
seals seizing these weapons
revealed in new images tonight,
materials used to build
missiles, the same weapons
deployed by the Houthis and at
least 30 attacks on commercial
shipping vessels. That's a
significant operation that they
haven't historically done. So
this shows that they're
escalating their interdiction
operations and they're also
approving things that they
typically do not.
Tonight, the Pentagon saying it
launched another round of
airstrikes inside Yemen
destroying for hooty anti ship
ballistic missiles prepared to
launch the operation marks the
third round of retaliatory
strikes against the Houthis
since Thursday amid the ongoing
attack on vessels in the Red Sea
and the Gulf of Aden since mid
November, disrupting one of the
world's busiest shipping routes.
And National Security Adviser
Jake Sullivan warning there
could be additional strikes,
we anticipated the Houthis would
continue to try to hold this
critical artery at risk. And we
continue to reserve the right to
take further action but this
needs to be an all hands on deck
effort.
And David an official tells us
the White House intends to put
the Houthis back on the list of
foreign terrorist organizations
after President Biden remove the
group back in 2021. Over
concerns that designation would
cripple the enemy the Yemeni
economy the damage to a famine
Adam Curry: the enemy Oh send
them into so this this navy seal
thing that that got all the play
I think what's Trump going to
do?
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, I want to point something
out in that report if
Adam Curry: his navy seals are
are all gone, he can't use them
to kill his opponents.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
plenty of seal groups, but the
kid right can't kill the First
Lady. So Ha First Lady. Yes,
yeah, they killed the first lady
right there in the White House.
He specifically said 30 Houthi
attacks on on the shipping. I
thought it was 150.
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
Gulf of Aden. All of a sudden
this is no longer the red so
yeah, but
John C Dvorak: it's still Houthi
attacks on commercial shipping,
I thought was 150 attacks 150
missiles 150 something or other?
And he specifically said 30, not
3133 2930. When did that number
change?
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
it's it's a number change. Let
me guess. Did everybody
mentioned 30?
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
they do. Let's find out by
listening to the NBC report
Unknown: tonight the US striking
back against Houthi rebels in
Yemen again, destroying an anti
ship ballistic missile launcher
that the US says was preparing
to attack ships in the Red Sea.
We anticipated the Houthis would
continue to try to hold this
critical artery at risk. And we
continue to reserve the right to
take further action.
It comes after the Houthis hit a
commercial ship with a missile
today. According to the US
military, the Biden
administration now read
designating the group as a
foreign terrorist organization.
According to three US officials.
The goal to cut off Houthi
financing. Secretary of State
Antony Blinken told CNBC Andrew
Ross Sorkin the threat is
impacting commercial traffic 15%
of commercial traffic is going
through that strait every single
day 30% of the world's
containerships we're seeing
international repercussions for
these attacks.
US officials say Iran continues
to supply Houthi rebels with
weapons and intelligence
releasing photos of these
Iranian missile parts headed to
the rebels in Yemen. The weapons
intercepted when the US Navy
spotted a suspicious boat in the
Gulf of Aden and sent in a team
of US Navy SEALs. They
confiscated the missile parts
but not before two US Navy SEALs
ended up in the rough waters.
They are both still missing
tonight. The tension with Iran
also playing out on land. US
officials say Iran launched
multiple ballistic missiles into
northern Iraq overnight, the
Iranian Revolutionary Guard
claiming they targeted a spy
base for Israel's intelligence
agency Mossad in the region. US
officials not confirming that
saying US military and
diplomatic facilities were not
impacted and that civilians
including children were killed
in the missile attack. Sparking
protests in the streets in
Erbil. The White House
condemning the attacks as
reckless and imprecise
Adam Curry: very different
reports. Yeah, I noticed
different very did
John C Dvorak: they have the
same elements of the seals and
then they have the bass there
were no 30 They didn't have the
number 30 They didn't have a 30
and they didn't have and they
added this new thing about the
attack in Iraq.
Adam Curry: Yeah, throw the kids
you know, they're gonna lose
viewers with this people are
zoning out the Oh, first of all,
you know, Windows Security
defender. Okay,
John C Dvorak: so you have a
problem? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: guess. Everything
reboots I think this is bad for
ratings. People don't want know
where the where the Gulf of Aden
is. They don't know where
they'll go anything they don't
feel anything we know where it
is because that's where the
that's where the portal is.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
stargate there are you know what
comes in and out of that thing?
Adam Curry: Tell me fish.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Alright,
so,
Adam Curry: next CBS CBS CBS CB
alright. CBS Come on. termI on
demand. The assault of guys
continued today. I liked the
other they're connecting it to
Gaza right away good.
Unknown: But Israel's fight
against Hamas has triggered a
dramatic escalation in attacks
across the region, the region
off the coast of Yemen. New
Video shows Iranian backed
Houthi ease in a song and dance
with new recruits aboard the
Galaxy leader cargo ship seized
back in November now turned into
part trophy, part floating
amusement park off the coast of
Yemen and a propaganda tool used
to make a mockery of the
American led threats. But
following last week's US UK
bombardment, those threats turn
to action again. The US military
says fighter jets struck for
anti ship ballistic missiles
preparing to launch from Houthi
territory in Yemen. Barely 24
hours after an attack on a US
operated cargo ship. A Greek own
ship was struck today by a
Houthi missile in the Red Sea.
Near the coast of Somalia. The
US military released these new
images Iranian supplied warheads
and missile parts confiscated
from this ship headed to Houthi
militants in Yemen. In an
operation in which two Navy
SEALs were lost at sea. We'll
have to continue the World
Economic Forum in Davos,
Switzerland White House National
Security Adviser Jake Sullivan
said this goes beyond a regional
problem. Global
Challenge we're talking about a
vital armor artery of global
commerce. A critical maritime
choke point that's being held
hostage.
Despite us lead attempts, the
Houthi say they'll keep hitting
that choke point as long as
Israel keeps hitting Gaza and
there's no sign tonight of
either those battles coming to
an end anytime soon. Okay, so
Adam Curry: we have three
distinct different reports and I
John C Dvorak: think this three
by three is having an effect
Yes, the
Adam Curry: damn man does those
new agenda guys are onto us. Mix
it up, people put the amusement
park in there, which was a nice
touch. Now I think this this
something was a surprise. It was
the news media has no idea
there's not that don't have the
only sources say they have in
there as well. But putting it
back on the terrorist list, they
don't know what to do. There is
no central information source
that is that is giving them
details this this was not
planned something I'm having to
agree with something went awry.
And especially if we lose some
seals, you know, this is not
good. That's the only human
interest we have is the seal
part of the story. So what do
Canadians
John C Dvorak: have to say about
this a CBC.
Unknown: Even as the US and UK
launched those first strikes
against Houthi militants last
week, the US suggested more
would likely follow. Now they
have today more Houthi military
targets. In this case, anti ship
missiles have been hit by
American forces unto itself
underlining that Houthi forces
while degraded by the earlier
attacks are still able to carry
out strikes themselves. Indeed,
word a Maltese flagged cargo
ship was hit today. And
yesterday for the first time a
US owned cargo ship. Damage was
minor in both cases, and there
were no injuries
in the face of naked aggression.
We are not turning inward. US
national security adviser Jake
Sullivan today in Davos,
Switzerland,
we did not say when we launched
our tax they're going to end
once and for all, the Houthis
will be fully deterred. We
continue to reserve the right to
take further action. The
US said today it's not looking
for war. And while the Houthi is
linked their attacks to
supporting Palestinians in the
Israeli war against Hamas in
Gaza. The US said again, its
response to the Houthi attacks
is based solely on the threat to
the global economy. countries
and companies that have nothing
to do with Middle East
whatsoever are being affected
more than 50 nations in nearly
30 attacks. And so it's a crisis
that the whole world needs to
respond to.
But it's ratcheted tensions in
the region broadly. Today
reports the US is set to
officially label Houthi rebels
as specially designated global
terrorists, which means the US
will be able to block their
assets among other punishments.
Last week, the US seized Iranian
made missile components bound
for Yemen from an unflagged ship
in the Arabian Sea. Iran backs
both the Houthis and Hamas
Adam Curry: and they got Bitcoin
their nose good. Decent analysis
from the troll room. Navy SEALs
lost at sea no ir beacons on
helmets no drones in sky the
seals were killed in action and
reported as missing to avoid
having to escalate that's a good
point.
John C Dvorak: That would make
sense that
Adam Curry: would that would
make sense that so they're lying
to us. Oh, surprise.
John C Dvorak: Wait, what lies
in the media
Adam Curry: and with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the sea in
Colonel DeVore ag ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
John Cena
John C Dvorak: Mr and creative
Marcia, seabirds and Rafi near
subs the word of their games and
nights out there in
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls at to buck 24 We've got
1817 Trolls listening in on the
troll room
John C Dvorak: that are there
that's that's actually right on
the money.
Adam Curry: Money you're on the
money trolls you're on the money
very good. Yes i i heard I was
reminded the other day that
you're actually a colonel I'm
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky
Colonel This is a fact Kentucky
Google it's not a little known
as but it's lightly known. Yeah
Adam Curry: I'm very very proud
I'm very proud to
John C Dvorak: tell the story on
horror wish I could tell it
again yeah you can you can Cyrus
hire I hired to give a speech in
Connecticut some Kentucky users
we were something there was
something in the guy who gave
the speech before was the one of
the editors at info world became
a venture capitalist Stuart
Alsop Yes, famous guy and I
heard that he had been there the
year before to give the same
talk. And he had been granted a
Kentucky Colonel ship. The guy
just mentioned it in passing now
is that actual
Adam Curry: military rank is
that it's
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky thing.
Yeah, I guess his military is
Colonel. And so I said, Wait a
minute. If he got this, I'm
getting one. Get me a Kentucky
cry. So I got one signed by the
governor. The whole thing I got
it's a framed on the wall.
Adam Curry: You should put it on
your QR Zed profile.
John C Dvorak: What's that QR
Zed? The QR
Adam Curry: z.com. Where all the
hams have their profile.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I
should. Hey, I've
Adam Curry: been getting some
good CUSOs from people on the
VAR AC. It's working. It's
pretty cool. Oh, you
John C Dvorak: got this thing up
and running? Yeah, got it up and
running. Yeah. Been doing lots
of you do it on the computer.
How do you as it work? It's
Adam Curry: on the computer.
Yeah. It's like a big chat
program on the computer yet
John C Dvorak: press. Gold.
That's got to be exciting. It's
riveting. It's
Adam Curry: it's riveting in the
region is great. I can't I was
talking to Switzerland the other
day on 12 watts. That's pretty
impressive. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. And you can
do it window. All hell breaks
loose. You can still do it.
That's right. That's right. A
friend of mine. Chris red.
kowski just wrote a book called
How the C W life or something
like,
Adam Curry: wow, The CW life is
it this
John C Dvorak: is called CW
life. And it's all it is is
about code and
Adam Curry: euthanasia book.
What is this?
John C Dvorak: Just you didn't
autograph it? He sent me a copy.
But I don't think he autographed
it. I want to send it to you.
Because I figure you'd be Yeah.
Adam Curry: See, what What about
it was did you read it and you
didn't read it?
John C Dvorak: It's hard to
read. You know, it's talking
about Morse code and how great
it is. And yeah, it is and CW is
terrific.
Adam Curry: That's the same as
Morse code. carrier wave CW
that's Morse code. Yeah. I at a
certain point, I could do 12
words a minute I was up there.
You
John C Dvorak: are all in on CW
for a long time. I thought Yeah,
I was I was and then and you're
getting all jacked up about
having some of you know, 100
foot long antenna. Long Wave
stuffing. It's not a you know,
some CW the wire
Adam Curry: antenna. I like wire
antennas the best actually I do.
Like why aren't these guys with
these big beams and rotators
after
John C Dvorak: this little chit
chat we've just had check the
check the chat room now to see
how many people left. Okay,
let's see. I'm guessing is down
to 1600 after talking about ham
radio station. 76.
Adam Curry: Baby.
John C Dvorak: You're right.
Yeah. 200 people you want to
talk a little more about we'll
get rid of all of that killed
over
Adam Curry: dead like ah, can't
listen to the CW ta Hey, man.
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John C Dvorak: stripe is like a
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John C Dvorak: world. Just put
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Eventually,
Adam Curry: eventually, where is
it? Where's the forward when you
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and a so
John C Dvorak: let me finish the
story, which is that she tried
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yes
John C Dvorak: there is at some
point when you have a there's a
there's a limited checks once
you get to like 100 checks. All
checks after that are charged 15
cents off the top but
Adam Curry: not a percentage. No
no no percentage because PayPal
man they take these days.
John C Dvorak: A pal takes a lot
of money. Well they all do.
Because it's a fee you know you
gotta you gotta cough up to this
system.
Adam Curry: Yeah
John C Dvorak: Yep, so it's not
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Bastards. Faster
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thank capitalist agenda who
bought us the artwork for
episode 1625 We titled that one
call me Bill. And this was Lloyd
Austin on a milk carton.
John C Dvorak: Gray greatest
piece of work. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'd actually use
that as the bat signal. And so
it's rare that we use the same
piece of art for the bat signal
and for the for the episode show
art but there it is. It was that
good. It was really we love that
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we had. What did we have here?
John C Dvorak: Well, there
wasn't a lot. Well,
Adam Curry: there was Simon
hating me. That was funny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
cute. There's a lot of cute
stuff that was probably usable
if we couldn't come up with
anything better. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Some laundry stuff
people like the laundry stuff.
John C Dvorak: And there's also
Yeah, it was a lot of that
whereas Aaron nourish kind of
cute company strict blogger had
a few good AI pieces that were
nice.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there was this
missile confusion that people
were doing missile but was the I
don't remember when this
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
you'll remember that. cuz I mean
I mean I saw that piece but I
can't remember what the joke
what it was referring to we have
a dog food eating from the dog
food bowl which I guess got a
lot of people's attention.
Scattered disgusted scare
Adam Curry: Manga The wash coin
minor Pro that was funny fire
the Zoomer the thermostat. Oh,
that wasn't a really good
thermostat. I didn't look like a
thermostat that looked like an
old cassette recorder on the
wall. I don't know what it
looked like. It looked kind of
weird. So I think really it was
this was the one for the win
that it was a great piece by
human capitalist agenda. And he
this is not AI he does this
stuff. This is what he does,
right? Okay,
John C Dvorak: this should take
a million prompts to get this
piece on AI. He's got the 33
ounces on there at the bottom of
cute now as goodwill. No
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Adam Curry: It was beautiful
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We appreciate it. And of course,
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Vancouver, Washington.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Vancouver,
Washington, Southern Washington
across from Portland is
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Adam Curry: I just got a
disturbing note that the the
milk carton was stolen and
recreated Ben Garrison had it as
a cartoon last weekend
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Valor.
John C Dvorak: That message.
That information must have come
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Adam Curry: No net net net net
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Stolen Valor. Oh, that's too
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John C Dvorak: Brian in
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Adam Curry: let us know brother.
We have do we have we have
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John C Dvorak: I don't worry if
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mark.
Adam Curry: No, no, it's not.
Hey, let us know Brian. What do
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Hello, jersey. Hello gents. I
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I want to
also thank Sarah for sending me
some some nuts. You got some
nuts, nuts I got a bunch of
nuts. I also got a flute. I
didn't get nuts or flute. The
flute is impossible to play. The
nuts in the field kind
Adam Curry: of go together
though and it's interesting.
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Mexico our favorite place $100 I
still get a big laugh. I think
it was Lucas or somebody else
from Roswell. It sent me a
souvenir from Roswell that it
was the low alien driver's
license.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yeah. And
the spinning top. Spinning so
yeah,
John C Dvorak: I get the same
and the little driver's license
always gets you'd give it to
people when they ask for ID and
it's always really you do that?
I have done it more than once.
Is that when you get carded at
the club? And I've dealt with
those days are over Brian Ned
doe but the I would Brian you
get to eat whoever wants to get
this karting thing where? You
say gotta love your license.
This is why
Adam Curry: my face? Yeah, look
John C Dvorak: at me. Do I look
like I'm you know, border 21
Adam Curry: Look at me.
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, I just
totally because the boss says I
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loca in Smithville, Texas 100.
Just to send a note in that was
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was a piece of on a piece of
burnt paper.
Adam Curry: That was a cool
note. I liked that. I liked the
whole presentation.
John C Dvorak: Was she's the one
who sent the flute. And it's a
glass fluid. Dynamite I'm
surprised and get blank. When
Adam Curry: are you sure this
isn't a crack pipe and you just
mistaking it for flu? No,
believe me.
Unknown: Okay,
John C Dvorak: it's got two
holes all over the place. It's
not like doesn't look anything
like a pipe at all? Well it's
just almost I mean, I if I knew
a flutist I could probably have
something. Play it but
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah, that's
yeah. You need to pucker your
lips. Okay, okay. Okay. Listen,
let me you want me to check the
troll room now.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, she lost
300
Adam Curry: We lost 300 Thanks
to your fluting.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
trying to get rid of all she
says she likes the she gave me a
that's an instruction sheet.
Adam Curry: I guarantee you.
John C Dvorak: I guarantee it's
not a Tracy Sullivan and Johnny
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say Hello sweet Hayward was
Adam Curry: that was from Texas
hot glass. I think that's black
day mocha. She's from Texas hot
glass. That's who makes those.
John C Dvorak: Was the glass
work is dynamite. And
Adam Curry: she's really good.
She said she sent us a thing
back when I was still smoking a
holy herb man. She sent me a
bong. It was beautiful.
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in Concord North Carolina 808
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Adam Curry: About Tom Woods
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Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. It
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John C Dvorak: And as one to
thank all these people for
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Adam Curry: and thank you to all
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Of course under 50 We don't read
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Unknown: Ben de deuced.
Adam Curry: Part of the joy of
being in no agenda nation Gitmo
nation is a no agenda meet up
and they take place all over the
world often one every single day
of the week. You can find them
at no agenda meetups.com No one
and to prove that they are like
a party. We have the report from
the indie meetup this is this is
the I think their first one of
the new year and Damon had put
together an excellent report for
us. He says
Unknown: de Maria and Sir Mark
Happy New Year and they tried we
are having our first meetup here
in Indy, and it's wonderful life
on the northern coast of
Indianapolis where it's subzero
fun in the Morning John Nam this
Bruce Hey,
this typhoid Emily calling out
to Obama. Can you turn up the
heat over here? We're seeing
some global warming. Hello Hi,
this is James Cindy of the
Tito's from Carmel thank you for
your courage sir
Craig is the dark moon here
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Madam pa this is sort of over
the Maipo I really liked the
show. I really like the beat ups
in the morning tool. Hi,
this is Gary from Greenwood and
Lloyd awesome isn't dead. He's
sitting here at the bar having
one of our great craft beers.
This
is Shannon for for when visiting
Andy we're reading Blum house in
the prairie books and having a
reindeer meat sandwich in
orange. And Adam This is Nick
It's bitterly cold in January
how Gore tried to warn us Ryan
from Fishers Indiana in the
morning in the Morning John and
Adam sir PVR street gang live in
the cold live here in Indiana in
the morning, Dave Kennedy from
Fort Wayne trying not to freeze.
Thank you for your courage. Hi,
this
is Cindy from Grand Junction
Brewing Company. We had no
agenda in here with us today. We
had a great time at Green Food
join the community and we were
happy to have him here. Really
great people. Yeah, thanks for
coming
to the Boyer family here from
Indianapolis Indiana.
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a meet
up report right there. What a
great crowd and they're the most
pretty to all of them just
beautiful, beautiful group and
And you hear how well it is for
your establishment? Yeah, Grand
Junction brewing. They got like,
the whole plug. They're
fantastic. Often the waitstaff
gets into it. They love being a
part of the no agenda community
as well. And you can check out
the following meetups. Actually
one is taking place today at 630
Lincoln's Roadhouse Pearl Street
is in Denver, Colorado. The
Charlotte thirsty Third Thursday
meetup starts tonight at seven
o'clock at Ed's Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina. On
Saturdays in New Hampshire meet
up 1230 At revolution tap room
and grill Rochester New
Hampshire. Fort Worth first meet
up of 2020 for one o'clock
that's in Texas. Flips Patio
Grill Fort Worth. And we have
the Fort Wayne view scope.
northeast Indiana club 33 meet
up at the arena Bar and Grill
that'll be Fort Wayne, Indiana,
the North that's all on
Saturday, North Carolina try had
no agenda meet up two o'clock at
Little Brothers brewing formerly
known as Kernersville Brewing
Company in Kernersville, North
Carolina, North Carolina, the
shrunken amygdala, support group
two o'clock task group corium
Cincinnati, Ohio the insane
Diego meet up on Saturday 333 at
roundtable pizza and Rancho
Bernardo San Diego California,
the tiny and make of Anchorage
2023 Year in Review. Oh we're
gonna do a rerun review four
o'clock at Bear Paw Bar and
Grill in Anchorage. I've been
there. That's the one place I've
been in Anchorage. Bear Paw Bar
and Grill. Yeah, I was there one
time are we doing in Anchorage?
I was doing this back in my MTV
days did an appearance. At the I
think it was at the bear paw bar
and grill or maybe some club
right next to it. I was there
for 24 hours. It was I have to
go back. I have to go back to
Anchorage. We want to do early
John C Dvorak: state I have not
visited
Adam Curry: it. People are
really cool. That's what I
remember. Of course I was MTV
guy. So maybe like who are you
now?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
like your hair. Yeah, exactly.
And okay, does that keep you
warm that here
Adam Curry: finally the Zen full
kitchen collective and Kilgore
mid monthly monthly meet up in
Zen Zen kitchen in Kilgore,
Texas and dirty jersey. Horeb
will be your host there. These
are just a couple of the no
agenda meetups. We have one
coming up in February and
Singapore Kilkenny in March.
That's Ireland. We have many
more in Texas, Canada Navia all
over the United States and the
world that no agenda meetups, go
to no agenda meetups.com Find a
place where there's a meetup
near you if you can't find one
start one yourself. It's easy
and always guaranteed a party
with
Unknown: me you want to be
John C Dvorak: is like
Adam Curry: we went from
watching Frasier reruns to
cheers reruns and I realized
that's the cheers theme. I'm
like, hey man, they know that
they stole our no agenda meetups
the oh wait a minute. Yeah, joke
although I like our short
version but so long at the
beginning of cheers back in the
day they thought that was cool
that the long opening music
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's great.
Those days are over those
Adam Curry: days are over those
days. Oh, yeah. What by the way,
just
John C Dvorak: a quickie before
we get to the ISOs Yes, I
watched a horrible Emmys. Oh, I
Adam Curry: have a clip.
John C Dvorak: I wrote it up in
the newsletter for people who
want to kind of get a some type
of twist if you want to hear a
short clip. I'd love to hear a
short clip. Everybody
Unknown: having fun at the
chocolate Emmys tonight. Nailed
it. We are killing it tonight.
Tyler we are killing it tonight.
You see this is like a man K
dangereux t all rolled into one
I mean if I was nominated this
year Hale I definitely would
have won all right. The
chocolate
John C Dvorak: Emmys. Yeah,
that's pretty close to it.
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
that chocolate Emmys? Well,
John C Dvorak: people of color
quote unquote Oh
Adam Curry: goodness. walked
away with every day people of
color.
John C Dvorak: So people of
color it includes Chinese. Yes.
Well, yeah. He was moist.
Adam Curry: Moist says when he
hears that he Yeah, I know.
John C Dvorak: I know. Yeah,
he's right. Yeah, it sounds like
to me too.
Adam Curry: I agree. So
John C Dvorak: Koreans, a lot of
Koreans want me everybody.
Here's
Adam Curry: what happened to the
white Christians. I thought they
were in charge of everything.
John C Dvorak: Well, they are
and I think they decided to go
this route. Okay. The best
example of the best, late night
talk show food first of all they
took they took they had to give
John Oliver award because he's
got a writing staff of about 50
people and they all needed
money. So John Oliver got pushed
into a category called best
variety show.
Adam Curry: What is the last
variety? Is there singing and
dancing? That's
John C Dvorak: No, I mean, yeah,
once the way is a gag dancer
Come on, but that's ridiculous.
So they gave him an award for
that. But so they had the best
talk shows they left Gutfeld out
of this, of course now and they
had have, they had Kimmel, they
had a late night with Stephen
Colbert, and they had Jimmy
Fallon and then they had Noah on
the Comedy Central show. That
show is over as canceled and has
been cancelled is over. He's not
even work as far as I know. It
is not even there anymore. But
chocolate
Adam Curry: so he gets an award.
Exactly.
John C Dvorak: And the staffs
and the the other guys are
putting you know, they're a
bunch of liberals and you're
politely clapping you know,
they've got bands and stabs they
got a lot of people to feed and
they're politely all it's great
that no one and it's funny to
watch.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, man.
Oh, man, but it
John C Dvorak: was I don't know
what the ratings were but it was
against Monday Night Football. I
mean, the chocolates get
Adam Curry: all the awards and
we get Trump. I mean, this is
not fair.
John C Dvorak: There you have
it. There you have it. No
chocolates, chocolates,
Adam Curry: chocolate. The
chocolate Emmys degrading. Why
do I say that man? Anyway,
whatever. I only have one eye so
you want to hear mine? Yeah,
sure. It's a doozy though. Be
careful. Yours may not stack up
to it. Here we go.
Unknown: Ah, wow. Wow,
Adam Curry: that's a good it's a
good it's not just wow, it's Ah,
Unknown: wow. Wow. But
John C Dvorak: I like it. I've
always liked to wireless I
usually contribute to wireless.
Well, let's go with so I got
three. Start with lies.
Adam Curry: I don't want to hear
any more of these lies. That's
the that's from the archive.
That's the classic. It's a
classic classic. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I got a mega
mega. Yeah, okay. Okay, well,
Mega Man again. And then the
last one is podcast structure.
Unknown: This podcast has no
structure.
Adam Curry: I think we have a
winner. There you go. In a
nutshell. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have an end of show. So now
it's time for Google JC Penney
to read a note here which we got
from Wait, where's where it was?
It was from one of our
producers. When did I erase
that? What did I do with that?
He said oh goodness. But I I
have a note that I wanted to
read but now I can't find it. So
I'll look for it. Okay, what's
your good news for today?
Unknown: Okay, today's
John C Dvorak: good news comes
from Iowa. Iowa and it snowed in
in Iowa and is doctors going
around saving the day with his
one of those four wheelers those
little bicycle thing he said
four weeks
Adam Curry: ago, but it was like
Doc Holloway on a four wheeler
is that everything he could to
make sure last week's winter
storm couldn't stop him from
delivering a baby.
Unknown: Yeah, he took this ATV
to Shenandoah Medical Center to
help baby Berkeley gardener come
into the world. Okay, TV news,
watch him and Sean McCann and
caught up with mom, dad and
doctor about that snowy
situation last
Friday in Shenandoah, Iowa. Time
must have felt frozen, as
subzero temps kept people
indoors. The gardeners were on
their way to the hospital mom
crystal gardener was due and Dr.
Chase brown knew his four
wheeler was the only way he
could make it there. He cleared
snowdrifts by hitting them at 20
miles per hour, snow and
everywhere I went flying in all
directions but just keep going
through to the next one. And it
wasn't just Dr. Brown. The whole
medical team braved the snow and
cold to make sure this baby
would be delivered.
We knew he was gonna get there.
They all would get there for it.
The garters were blessed with
a baby girl named Berkeley at
Tuesday's checkup. Brown says
she's healthy as can be.
She's a very good baby. We
couldn't have asked for more
perfection so
her siblings can't put her down.
Does Leah share at all that she
doesn't share much and tries
not?
Despite Berkeley being born in a
winter storm, she
doesn't like to be out of her
blanket out of her swaddle
nothing. And she hates the cold
for
Brown. There was never a
question he'd make it. In fact,
he's gone to three deliveries
now by four wheeler again, no
matter what's coming, for there
to take care of people. And
while time might move slowly in
this small town, there's no snow
day for a baby ready to meet the
world. This is a dream come true
for me to be here in a small
town and provide the care we can
in experiences like this is just
how I imagine that'd be a doctor
one day Sean McKinnon, K TV
NEWSWATCH SEVEN. Ah,
John C Dvorak: wow. No doctors
like that. Except a little small
towns around here is
Adam Curry: beautiful. It was so
nice. I feel good. I found the
note. SOC, sent a note through
fountain to podcasting 2.0 Good
news. This is going to be a
nightmare when they needed
another show day off three hours
of good news segments is going
to need a disclaimer for the
side effects. You nailed it,
brother. You nailed it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we're gonna
cumulate
Unknown: JC had the vibes for
you and me and we all feel
better. Now he's done his bit,
to the back
Adam Curry: to reality. That's
turning to shit. Good news,
everybody. We end every show
with some good news. So you can
feel good going into the next
few days without us. But of
course, we'll be back on Sunday
to deconstruct all of the
world's events for you. Maybe by
then we will have a new Lloyd
Austin. You never know. You
never know you never know.
queued up for you. Some end of
show mixes. Thank you. Steph
Jacobson. Proud Professor Jay
Jones. Producer X. I want to
thank the Jones brothers Neil
and Steve and Marty bent for
some of those clips from the
douchebags of Davos. Lots of
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Unknown: speaking scenes two
days it is Doug's what's not to
be thrilled about it down happy
with the diet. good about what
you're feeding.
Now of course you really want to
make the advertiser feel happy
if you ended up having to share
your dog's food Sunday's I speak
from experience I mean not from
the mini Apocalypse experience
but also from getting down on
the ground that
was a little bad assets right
on camera have no
breaks my heart breaks my heart
goes value for value people
stop right away Stop it is a
Moses will be the Pro.
Israel a pariah stays with
occupation and apartheid. When
xenophobia, ruthlessness and
intimidation, Israel is losing
on the grounds and in the courts
of public opinion building
an empire based on fears and
intimidation,
desperate acts of aggression to
propose the wider conflict,
charismatic,
vicious immigrants for the
destruction of the country,
with Lebanon with Iran with
anybody to draw in the US of
build the butcher. BUTCHER Biden
is reporting for Tuesday. What's
your approach, genocide by his
side extinguishes life the
continuation of Israeli
terrorists the son of a butcher,
a ruthless fighter. So take
notes butcher fighting, it's
frankly deplorable and
wholly depressing.
Just keep our constants out of
your mouth.
It's important to remember who
this man is. He's a xenophobic
killer who has aligned himself
with fellow scared
bigots. For Joe Biden is
reporting he
is not a good man betrays a no
this man is evil and never tried
to tell us otherwise is a noses
genocide that Germany with your
words and deeds supporting
Israel, the people of Europe
stand with Palestine and with
South Africa. Christian Lord
guide my hand. It's important to
remember who this man is for Joe
Biden is reporting for duty.
He's a xenophobic killer who has
aligned himself with
fellow scared and bigots. Israel
is loose Then, on the grounds
and in the court of public
opinion, the people of North
Stand with Palestine and with
South Africa.
What is best in my mind? For
Russia enemies, see them driven
before you hear the lamentation
of the women
John C Dvorak: lamentation,
Lamentation Lamentation
Lamentation, lamentation,
lamentation
is where you just lament your
euros woes you know the worst
moaning and groaning, moaning
and groaning and moaning and
groaning, groaning lamentation,
Lamentation Lamentation
Clementine lamentation
limitation is good
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