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1631: Pulling a Johnson

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John C Dvorak: All right, right, right, that's exactly what it
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is. Adam curry, John C. Devora.
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Adam Curry: February 4 2020 for this award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1631.
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Unknown: This is no agenda. Analyzing the info
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Adam Curry: mavericks and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number 60. In the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're now I'm
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wondering whether it's pronounced Gouda or Gouda. I'm
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John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill well, you came to the right show for that.
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It's right because it is officially howdah
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Unknown: Gouda Gouda you got to do the Callaway Gouda Gouda no
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is proud ah how
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John C Dvorak: you hear with all these wind storms it
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Adam Curry: was also not just famous for for cheese but also
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famous for
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John C Dvorak: a small town hall
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Adam Curry: yeah the small town in Holland does fail how dice
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famous sports cheese and one other export products Can you
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name the products
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John C Dvorak: wooden shoes
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Unknown: no
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John C Dvorak: strokes comfortable whatever that cake
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is
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Adam Curry: stirrups coffee Hey, that's a good one. That's Joe
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title right there stirrups coffee no candles.
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John C Dvorak: Candles
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Unknown: Didn't you know that?
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John C Dvorak: No. Never heard of it.
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Adam Curry: Oh my god, they export I bet you that how to
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exports that more candles come from Crowder than anywhere else
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in the world.
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John C Dvorak: Well the reason I brought this up is because I'm
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watching a cooking show that I don't gorge normally watch by
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watches pretty interesting. It's called a Scandinavian cook. Uh
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huh. And this guy floats all over the place in Scandinavia
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and he tells stories about one thing or another like the big
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sausage strike. Anyway, so he says that he's making some food
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at the at the end he says I'm going to take any says Gouda,
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he's going to put some Gouda cheese you can use a hard cheese
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or use Gouda. I'm thinking Gouda I never heard definitely I was I
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was good because that's where we pronounce it in California when
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we buy it at the store. Yes. And now I turns out we're it's it's
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not even goddess gada
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Adam Curry: I would say in America most people say Gouda
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John C Dvorak: but you say how do I like some how to cheese
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Adam Curry: soda if you don't put the how they're how they're
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How do you get put in there otherwise it's not worth
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John C Dvorak: it. Well, it's not gonna work anyway.
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Adam Curry: But no one if you say how does he have to say
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Gouda no one else will understand you in America. You
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gotta say I just say Gouda
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John C Dvorak: gotta say Gouda. But where did the word Gouda
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come from then? I mean, let's move mispronounced it the first
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time.
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Adam Curry: I mean, come on you people pronounce things
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differently in different countries. What are you my name
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in Holland is od DME? Or, or alternatively Edom? Hello, Ed.
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Edd, U M Ed. Ed DME come here. Don Adam. Yes, so did I hate
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Englishness? I hated it when people call me odd dumb. Hey all
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Duncan whichever Utah
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John C Dvorak: like autumn like at UMN?
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Adam Curry: No way. That's just the way you say Adam in in
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Holland are Adam and Eva, Adam and Eva. Anyway? Well, it's
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obvious what's going down now in this political year of 2024. In
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the United States, we have two teams we have what is that? What
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is that feedback? What am I hearing? You're hearing the
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storm. That's the storm. It sounds like like nails on a
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chalkboard. It's bad. The here's the strategy. We have the
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Democrats on one side. And their strategy is war kill war war,
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Iran war bomb bomb bomb war, and they got some Republicans to
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participate in that. And then on the rights on the in this corner
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over here, we have the Republicans and their invasion
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at the border illegal migrants and they will do anything
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possible to keep both of these things going and I would like to
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start in my backyard with the caravan to take back our border.
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Was
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John C Dvorak: caravan of God. Yes. God's army. It's God's
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Adam Curry: army, which resulted in 100 people going to the
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border this is this is one of the most exciting rallies we've
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ever seen a
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Unknown: protesters from around the country flocked to a small
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Texas border town to vent frustration over illegal
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immigration. CBS is Jason Allen is there for us tonight. Jason
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Nicky Good evening. This event has been peaceful here today
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with a lot of these people telling me that they felt called
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to be here hundreds of them caravan from brick by By
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Adam Curry: the way, notice all the god references. They were
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called to be here this is they're laying it on thick over
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at CBS here
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Unknown: today with a lot of these people telling me that
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they felt called to be here hundreds of them caravan from
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Virginia here to this South Texas ranch to protest the Biden
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administration's handling of immigration issues here at the
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southern border. Small but fervent group of people rallied
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to take the border back in South Texas.
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I think we all as a nation want this to end. Both
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Democrats and Republicans. The gathering
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was part religious revival and part Trump row.
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Adam Curry: Let me tell you, I've been watching this and
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we're getting some boots on the ground. This is not religious
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revival by any stretch of the imagination
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John C Dvorak: of Satan. This is CBS trying to make everything
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out to be God's army
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Unknown: crafts and Republicans the gathering was part religious
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revival and part Trump rally. We need God
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to fix this because we can't fix this. We don't know who these
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people are. They could be our enemy.
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The rally happened near Eagle Pass where there's a standoff
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between federal and Texas authorities over border control.
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CBS is Camilo Montoya Galvez is there.
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The Texas National Guard is blocking federal agents from
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patrolling this section of the US Mexico border near Eagle
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Pass. As you can see it has been fortified with razor and
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concertina wire. The US Supreme Court has allowed the Biden
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administration to remove the wire, but Texas Governor Greg
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Abbott has vowed to keep it in place. Some Eagle Pass residents
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say they are not pleased with the national attention.
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I think the political fight is up in Washington and it's at the
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capitol in Texas. It's not down here
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at the rally. People say they had to be here to send a
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message. If we stay at home
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and sit on our butts. We're gonna get mowed over this
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country will be gone.
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Tomorrow Governor Abbott is going to be in Eagle Pass with
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about a dozen other Republican governors has learned that there
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were threats that border protection learned about as a
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precaution moved some migrants out of a processing facility
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that was nearby. Oh,
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Adam Curry: yes. So there you go. It was as predicted a
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complete wet turd. There's nothing nothing going on. Sir
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Jean is down there. And he sent me a couple of videos and you
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know, it was a press event. That's all that it is. It's a
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small little park. That is an area where they close it down.
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locked it down. Yeah, we can't let the Border Patrol come in.
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And then half a mile further up. There's an open gate and three
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miles further up. There's there's not even a fence. So the
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whole thing is a farce. And today I was waiting for it to
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happen. I couldn't get any clips on time of Abbott's showing up
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with a whole bunch of other Republican governors. Of course,
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yeah, this is not political at all. Oh, and the timing is
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perfect for Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, the
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Republican extraordinaire to pull this stunt.
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Unknown: He has signaled that this bipartisan Senate
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immigration reform bill is dead on arrival in the house. As you
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speak to him. Do you suspect there'll be anything that can
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change his mind on that? Well,
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Willie, it will be very interesting to hear his answer
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on that point, because yesterday he made this surprise move he
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introduced a standalone piece of legislation that would aid
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Israel that is significant because aid to Israel was a part
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of that border package that Priscilla was just talking about
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as well as aid to Ukraine. So the question is Willie was that
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move aimed at effectively killing that border deal? As
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Priscilla just mapped out former President Trump has effectively
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been calling on Republicans to kill the deal. Basically, he
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thinks that would be a political gift to President Biden in the
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middle of this tough reelection campaign. I spoke to spoke to a
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top Republican lawmaker overnight who said there is
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concern about not only what this means for the border deal, but
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what this would mean for Ukraine aid what message does this send
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all
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Adam Curry: right so what he did here was he ripped apart instead
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of trying to go through this process of which everyone was
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pushing for was one big aid package for Ukraine Israel and
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that had to have some border stuff and they got some border
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stuff and instead he pulled what will now call a Johnson and he
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said Oh no, I'm because of course the Speaker of the House
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introduces the bills. Oh, no, I've got a new bill. We're going
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to send 17 point 4 billion which as if it's nothing that 17 and a
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half 1000 million dollars to Israel, because which is not
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going to send a big check like Publishers Clearing House and
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more bombs, more piles, more cool stuff that we're making. So
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they had Mike show up on the Meet the Press this morning with
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your your pal there. What's her name again?
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John C Dvorak: Kristen Welker, Welker right.
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Adam Curry: And she asked the obvious question,
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Unknown: Mr. Speaker, as you know, that bill that you passed
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in the House would be dead on arrival in the Senate, your
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Republic Again, colleagues in the Senate have said as much so
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I guess my question is, did you propose this standalone Israel
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aid package to kill this compromise deal in the Senate?
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No, we've made very clear what the requirements of the house
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were. And that is to solve the problem at the border.
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Apparently the Senate has not been able to come to an
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agreement. They've been suggesting text should be filed
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maybe today. But we've been told the same thing for months now.
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We've been awaiting their action. We cannot wait any
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longer the house is willing to lead. And the reason we have to
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take care of this Israel situation right now is because
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the situation has escalated. Of course. I mean, the Hamas
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terrorist have not relented and their attacks on Israel. We're
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now having, of course, US personnel being fired upon
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there. And of course, with retaliatory strikes that are
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taking place. The heat has been turned up there, Israel has
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never been in greater need of our support. Oh, yeah. And the
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house is serious about that, I believe will pass this with a
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wide margin and take care of that responsibility. Oh,
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Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, so Mike, he really he really, he really
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relented on that one. Oh, they really need are never needed
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more than ever. There was a small moment of clarity when he
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said this,
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Unknown: the President of the United States, open the border,
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we've documented 64 specific actions that Joe Biden and his
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ad agencies have taken to create this catastrophe. They did it
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intentionally. That's why his approval rating is in the tank.
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60% of the people who buy your latest poll, the reason the
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presidency is imperiled, as your opening monologue stated is
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because this is an abject failure of leadership that the
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American people are done with this, the border has to be
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secured. The President has the authority right now he doesn't
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need another act of Congress. He could do it right now, but he's
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unwilling to do it. And
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Adam Curry: that's the message you'll be hearing over and over
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again along with all the other great stories of migrants
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wreaking havoc inside our borders. I think what's what
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happens now is a couple of things. First of all the
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immigration is it's not it's not even through the border to the
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on the ground. And remember when you see these videos, look at
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how clean their clothes are. Their shoes, sparkling clean,
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no, no, no suitcases nothing. They're not carrying anything
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that gets shipped on a big lorry.
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John C Dvorak: You know that to carry anything was besides the
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lorry when you have a credit card a bunch of money well
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there's
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Adam Curry: that it's not a credit card to debit cards
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because to be honest, it's all the money is already there. It's
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not even credit is it's good. Good to go. boots on the ground
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boots on the ground from one of our producers. was in the bush
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Intercontinental Airport going to LA for business 10 refugees
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on the flight all carrying bags from the IOM the international
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office of migration from
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John C Dvorak: their logo on
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Adam Curry: him Yeah, yeah, I think he took pictures and put
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John C Dvorak: that in the newsletter that is so that is so
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arrogant.
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Adam Curry: And lanyard with IOM lanyards. Can you believe it?
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This is all being shuttled over through. It's all on purpose.
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It's all by design. They're raising $7.9 billion. The IOM is
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through Amy Pope, former State Department afficionado the whole
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thing and it's that's there's even one one part that's even
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worse, these info Mavericks that are just sticking in my craw and
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I put Brett Weinstein up there not a bad guy. But you people
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get directed and you get directed by people who send your
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messages and you know, you got it. You get insiders, we have
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them all the time they've sent me on wild goose chases before.
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I'd like to mention things like
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Unknown: quantum dots.
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John C Dvorak: Quantum don't have to mention quantum dot
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quantum dots. But I do have something else that that you
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will have to mention, but we'll do it later. Okay.
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Adam Curry: So, along with this, along with this report from our
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boots on the ground, our producer says 90% of the people
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I'm seeing are military age men. And that is so that is what the
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info Mavericks are directing you towards. The whole idea is to
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get you to think about this. They just changed the
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battlefield. Don't go looking at what's really happening. Think
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about military aged men. And we've been hearing this over and
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over again. And how did this start? It's all of a sudden
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she's Oh, military age men. Oh, they're sending Chinese in.
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They're going to take us over from inside out. And so Brett
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Weinstein was on Tucker again to talk about his trip to the
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Darien Gap. This was amazing. All of a sudden he's he's the
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roving reporter and I pulled I pulled a little clip of him and
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Heather, talking about his theme Heather's always there. No, no,
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this is this is the dark horse podcast, I do want to start by
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doing want to pull the talker clip this, it's more interesting
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to pull it from that from the home podcast. So Brett, what's
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your thesis? After going through the Darien Gap hypothesis
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Unknown: that I want to put me in a hypothesis for
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John C Dvorak: not a thesis.
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Adam Curry: It's a hypothesis. And what's the difference
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between a thesis and a hypothesis? A thesis
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John C Dvorak: is actually a slight difference. hypothesis
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would be the word you'd use in academia, for pretty much the
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same thing. They're their son. As far as I'm concerned, they're
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synonymous, but hypo was more. And it also a thesis is
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something that's produced necessarily. So in other words,
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I wrote a thesis, ooh, or someone habit or
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Adam Curry: be more technically wrote it for him, maybe? Well
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listen to his hypothesis. So
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Unknown: a hypothesis that I want to put forward is that the
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economic migration that is so evident that you saw at the
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first camp is actually cloaking, this second migration with his
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traveling a different route, which is housed separately. And
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Adam Curry: so I have to add to this. So he had, he went to the
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Darien Gap, and he saw two camps. One was, like South
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Americans, people from Venezuela, Ecuador, you know,
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hey, we want we want a better life, hey, they said, just like
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that.
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John C Dvorak: Dry your.
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Adam Curry: But then there was this other camp where he was not
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allowed to film when it was filled with Chinese,
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Unknown: with his traveling a different route, which is housed
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separately, and which on the ground has an absolutely
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distinct character, and is treated in the inverse way, by
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the authorities, they don't want it observed. They can't prevent
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you from seeing it from the edge of the campus, they do not want
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you getting any deeper into the thing. They don't want you
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photographing it. And it's not obvious why they would have a
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different policy, in fact, the opposite policy as they did in
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the main migration. So anyway, the hypothesis that I want to
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put on the table, and I'm not saying that I necessarily
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believe that this is true, but I do believe it is plausible,
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okay,
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Adam Curry: so that means he didn't write it. Given this
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hypothesis.
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John C Dvorak: I also want to say at this point, I'm going to
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change the definition of hypothesis because I can see
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this coming to conspiracy theory. There you go.
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Unknown: The economic migration out of South America is cloaking
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a migration of largely military age, Chinese migrants who are
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motivated by something distinct from they're not fleeing the
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CCP, it's not obvious that they are concerned about the view of
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the CCP, it appears that they're actually facilitated by it, that
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they've left China with the knowledge of the CCP, and that
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they have joined this migration, which we now try to talk about
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his one thing, but if it's two things, that will confuse
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Adam Curry: things. So his hypothesis, which he doesn't
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necessarily agree with, is that the international office of
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migration is obfuscating these military age people, he had a
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picture of old women was what I saw, but okay, these military
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age people who have been sent by the CCP, which I guess the
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international office of migration, is bringing in to
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take over the United States from the inside out. And all I could
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think of was the former New York banker who said, Adam, we always
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will be China, because their population is declining. And we
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have an increasing population, not by young people having
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children and starting families, but by open borders. And I think
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this is a part of it. And I think they want they want these
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Chinese, they're probably really smart Chinese, you know, the
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good ones who got skills, who got skills to do stuff.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we can get them those Chinese very easily
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through the h1 B program that they don't have to sneak into
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the country, especially the skilled ones. But how about
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this? For some sort of counter argument all this? First of all,
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this bit about Chinese losing as population is a bunch of people
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that are on that bandwagon, but they don't explain the fact that
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oh, yeah, then I kind of have anybody working for the old
19:32
people. They can't explain away the fact that 30 to 40% of the
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young people in China can't get work. There you go. And that's
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true. How does that make any sense with it in the scheme of
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things? is declining and they're out of control? Yeah. Can't get
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workers.
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Adam Curry: I bet they're military age.
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John C Dvorak: Well, they're yelling people. They're all
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military. The
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Adam Curry: whole thing is 40. The whole thing is we want them
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here. We have to remember that this this was bet 2025 years
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ago, you could walk across the border. They were corporations
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going, hey, yeah, come on over. We'll bring you back at the end
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of the day.
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John C Dvorak: It was not my hypothesis. Oh, all right.
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Adam Curry: Yours will be conspiracy theory.
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John C Dvorak: You United States has a similar situation that
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China we have all these young people that will never put up
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with being conscripted. It's just not going to happen. That
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boat has sailed. We're going to have a volunteer army for the
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rest of our days of mercenaries and whoever so we'll bring them
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in over the border. Hey, you want to become an American
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citizen? Here's your path. Join the army. Put in four years, you
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can re up if you want for two more, and you'll become an
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American citizen after your two duty we're gonna put you in the
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army. I'm with you. You're going to fight for America.
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Adam Curry: I'm with you on this and the reason why is because of
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steadfast dis defender 24 set up. Are you familiar with
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steadfast defender no steadfast defender Well, here's a little
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backgrounder NATO has
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Unknown: kicked off its biggest military exercise in decades.
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The Alliance Yeah, well carry out four months of drills
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steadfast.
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Adam Curry: Let me let me play it up because I'm going to I'm
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going to prove your point here
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Unknown: is that's the name and it aims to showcase NATO's
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ability to deploy forces from North America and elsewhere to
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reinforce Europe. 31 NATO members and Sweden are taking
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part in the exercises which will involve around 90,000 troops.
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The drills include naval vessels, dozens of aircraft and
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more than 1000 combat vehicles. For more now I'm joined by
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Island Motley up, she is a research fellow at the Center
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for Security and Defense with the German Council on Foreign
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Relations. It's good to have you with us CFR shields, NATO's
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biggest exercise that we've seen it. Now,
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I think it's should be clear that NATO is not acting in a
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vacuum, but rather that NATO is reacting to what Russia has been
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doing since essentially 2014, violating the sovereignty of
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Ukraine. And obviously, that has been reinforced by its by
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Russia's full fledged invasion of Ukraine starting in February
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2022. And that is why NATO is in the process of planning this,
22:26
this big exercise actually the biggest since the end of the
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Cold War. So
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Adam Curry: so this is now underway. This was just a few
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days before it started. And what did we hear all over Europe?
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This is a psychological operation on the Europeans.
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Yeah, it's Russia and then ah, conscription what Boris Johnson?
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Oh, yes. Left Tennant. Johnson reporting for duty read my
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column in the Daily Mail. Everyone's go like I'm not going
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to be conscripted. I'm not going to God. You can track
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conscription is drafting. I'm not going to go into I'm not
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going to do that. Then we had Sweden. Sweden all Yep. Well,
23:04
the commander in chief over there. Be Dane General Michael
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began, urged his fellow Swedes to quote prepare themselves
23:13
mentally for War. The Civil Defence minister called Oscar
23:17
Bolin stressed that war could come to Sweden, the German
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Minister of Defense Boris Pistorius shared his wild guests
23:25
that a Russian attack on a NATO country could occur within less
23:27
than 10 years. The Dutch Admiral wrote Bauer Oh yes, we need to
23:32
be resilient. We have to have a whole of society approach. They
23:37
are doing everything they can to get cold war going. And they
23:43
need to do it now because they need money. See, France just
23:47
ordered 1.1 billion euros of vehicles, helicopters, some
23:52
other pew pew stuff. Because they know the minute Trump comes
23:56
in that gravy train is over. This is that last hurrah.
24:01
They're doing everything they can they're trying to scare
24:04
everybody into this. And I think you're right it's like Americans
24:08
we've given up but like no one no one wants to go into that
24:11
woke bullcrap. We're not gonna go into the army in them their
24:14
fourth No, no, get some shiners. I think you're absolutely right.
24:19
That's that's the deal. It's all the military industrial complex
24:23
is running roughshod on the whole world right now. No one's
24:26
in control of them. They just do whatever they want. blow stuff
24:30
up. And then and even get the Speaker of the House Johnson to
24:36
alright, you know, you hear 17 billion. So it's a tip for these
24:40
guys, but it's enough for now. Just a tip. People have to
24:45
realize this, this is what's going on. It's just all
24:49
military. Everything we can do for war
24:52
John C Dvorak: war war war. That's a moneymaker. And and
24:56
Adam Curry: it will be very interesting to see what Tucker
24:58
comes up with who has been spot In Moscow, if you actually go
25:02
why Oh, yeah to interview Putin, that's that's the big rumor. Oh,
25:07
yeah. Yeah. Well,
25:08
John C Dvorak: Putin will run circles around that guy.
25:12
Adam Curry: Well, Putin will get exactly what he wants. Yeah,
25:16
John C Dvorak: no, you will. That's what I meant this,
25:17
Adam Curry: this whole thing is, it's really disgusting. And
25:22
then, you know, instead of instead of just what this 86
25:29
Hold my hand, let me let me play this one clip. And then I think
25:32
it looks like you got enough stuff here to cover it. But I
25:35
just wanted to play this one. Where is it? In the region here?
25:42
Yes. This is from our last show. Just remember, we had a huge
25:46
huge gathering in Congress in the halls of the hallowed halls
25:50
of Congress. And this is what came out of it.
25:53
Unknown: And Mr. Zuckerberg,
25:54
you and the companies before us, I know you don't mean it to be
25:58
so but you have blood on your hands?
26:00
Adam Curry: No, no, Lindsay actual blood is on the hands of
26:04
dead people. With 86 military strikes, we're just bombing all
26:09
kinds of Lindsay
26:10
John C Dvorak: has blood on his hands.
26:12
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. It's unbelievable. And so let's get
26:17
Jake Sullivan out. Let's get him out and talking to everybody.
26:19
Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, how many do we kill? What do we get
26:22
what's going on how we do so the
26:24
Unknown: President has been very clear from the beginning, which
26:27
is that when American forces are attacked, we will respond. And
26:30
we've responded several times over the course of the past few
26:33
months. And then when three Americans were tragically killed
26:37
by the President and ordered, firm in serious response, which
26:41
we are now, which is now underway, it began with the
26:46
strikes on Friday night. But that is not the end of it, I
26:49
tend to take additional strikes, and additional action to
26:53
continue to send a clear message that the United States will
26:56
respond when our forces are attacked, or people are killed.
26:59
I
27:00
Adam Curry: mean, this message that they keep talking about, I
27:03
think the message is clear. Now, especially because you keep
27:06
saying it, but when this is not over. At
27:09
Unknown: this point, we are still assessing the question of
27:13
how many casualties there were a lot on your hands among the
27:16
militia groups, and our military will continue to provide the
27:20
President with those assessments. We do believe that
27:23
the strikes had good effect in degrading the capabilities of
27:27
these militia groups to attack us. And we do believe that we do
27:31
believe that, as we continue, we will be able to continue to send
27:35
a strong message about the United States his firm resolve
27:39
to respond when our forces are attacked.
27:41
Jake, do you know if any civilians were killed? Do you
27:44
know if any militant leaders were killed?
27:49
We do not have at this time. Any confirmation of any civilian
27:54
casualties or military? Looking at that what we do know? Right?
28:00
We're absolutely a valid targets valid view of containing the
28:05
weaponry and the personnel that were attacking American forces.
28:09
So we are confident in the targets that we struck. And I
28:12
will defer to a final analysis, the question of who was taken
28:17
out among militant leaders?
28:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, I got to stop you from these clips.
28:22
The you've jumped from the Texas trucking to an hour overseas,
28:27
all of a sudden, with a bunch of stuff in the middle that you've
28:29
just passed over. It was kind of a work of genius, but the show's
28:34
got to go on for three hours.
28:38
Adam Curry: Well, my point was, this is just two sides of a
28:41
political coin that's being tossed up in the media, and
28:46
Republicans are all about the border. And then, you know,
28:49
personally, I think, you know, the war stuff may be a little
28:54
more important. That's where all our money goes to. Yeah,
28:57
John C Dvorak: but that's, since we started domestically, I
29:01
wanted to stick with it because I got a bunch of domestic clips
29:03
I want to play Alright, as opposed to jumping into the war
29:06
already, which includes the three by three. And over
29:11
analysis of the attacks with the V one bombers, Yes, God. Yes.
29:20
And I said, just as an aside, I'll probably mentioned it, but
29:24
as an aside, the B one bombers aren't even stationed over
29:27
there. They're stationed in the United States.
29:30
Adam Curry: What are you going to do domestic or because I just
29:33
want to put this
29:33
John C Dvorak: point in a b one bomber cost $173,000 an hour to
29:40
operate. Just want to throw that in there. If you want to talk
29:44
about money wasting. Yes. I wanted to talk about a little
29:47
bit about Mayorga because Mayorkun is gonna get impeached.
29:50
And there was another big issue on the meat meat, the depressed
29:53
show that you mentioned earlier because he was on there. Yeah,
29:57
and she was hounding him about this. saying it was political.
30:01
But the reason I would like to play some Mayorga clips because
30:05
this is actually just for the benefit of the audience. This is
30:08
an amazing historic event to try to impeach a cabinet member. The
30:13
last time it happened was 150 years ago. And who was that? I
30:18
don't even know. It was somebody's somebody's cabinet
30:21
and it was just some data maybe the war guy. But I want to start
30:27
with a meteoric analysis from N T D.
30:32
Unknown: Okay, on Wednesday morning
30:34
Adam Curry: that this is the one impeaching my Orca.
30:37
Unknown: Me. Yeah.
30:39
On Wednesday morning, a House panel approved Articles of
30:42
Impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro
30:44
Mayorkas. He's accused of breaching the public trust.
30:48
Adam Curry: I see what I know. That's why I asked you meant
30:50
this clip. Joining
30:51
Unknown: us now to explore the impeachment of Homeland Security
30:53
Secretary Alejandro my arc is no
30:55
John C Dvorak: you were playing the right clip. This
30:57
Adam Curry: one says my Yorker analysis and TD
31:01
John C Dvorak: This one says Majorca analysis TD
31:04
Adam Curry: Yeah, the other one just says impeaching my Yorker.
31:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well, once you skip to New York
31:10
analysis, go back to the beach in New York. Okay.
31:13
Adam Curry: Okay. And by the way, it's I think it's my orcas
31:15
Majorca is a is a seaside village in Spain.
31:19
Unknown: On Wednesday morning, a House panel approved Articles of
31:22
Impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Alexandra
31:25
Mayorkas. He's accused of breaching the public trust and
31:28
refusing to comply with the law. And just hours later House
31:32
Speaker Mike Johnson I accused my Yorkers of being partly
31:34
responsible for the Fentanyl crisis.
31:37
Moms and dads brothers and grandmothers all of us are
31:39
losing the drug that has been smuggled across the border in
31:43
droves. Where in the world is Secretary Mayorkas on all of
31:47
this? He is the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
31:51
It's his responsibility to prevent these harmful drugs from
31:55
flowing into our country and the full
31:57
House could vote on my Yorker's impeachment as soon as next
32:00
week.
32:00
Adam Curry: Who was that speaking in? In the house? Who
32:03
was that?
32:04
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
32:06
Adam Curry: Who was that? Is the wind that bad?
32:10
John C Dvorak: Is that bad? Who was speaking
32:12
Adam Curry: in the house there? Who was who was that was Johnson
32:15
was it? That's what I thought it was? I mean, this is also I
32:19
mean, they don't care. They don't care about people dying in
32:22
the streets. They don't. This is this is all taken leverage.
32:26
John C Dvorak: The fentanyl thing. They can leverage
32:28
bringing the soldiers over. Yes,
32:30
Adam Curry: no, they totally can leverage that. And that and
32:32
that, again, it's part of just let them die. So we can talk
32:36
about it. It's
32:38
John C Dvorak: well, I don't think that that callous, but no,
32:40
no, it's something you can leverage to get some attention
32:44
to the fact that you're trying to impeach this guy, and they're
32:47
going to impeach him in the house, but it's not gonna go
32:48
anywhere after that. Which, you know, begs the question, why
32:51
bother?
32:52
Adam Curry: But they have no election year. Hello?
32:55
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yes, go to clip two.
32:58
Unknown: And on the note of how this impeachment is unfolding,
33:02
Democrats are calling this a political stunt. What's your
33:05
understanding of the legality here?
33:08
Of course, an impeachment is not strictly speaking a legal
33:12
proceeding. It is, as our founders, in particular,
33:16
Alexander Hamilton, one of the authors of the Federalist
33:20
Papers, told us that it is a political tool, but it's a very
33:26
serious one. And as one of the federal courts with regard to
33:31
these cases involving Mr. Marcus has said, Look, if if, in fact,
33:38
you in the Congress disagree with what Mr. Marcus is doing,
33:43
don't come to us, you have a tool available to you. That is
33:48
the Congress and it is impeachment. So the courts have
33:52
basically told the Republicans in the House of Representatives,
33:57
you have a tool at your disposal, it's up to you to use
34:00
it. That tool is impeachment
34:03
Adam Curry: question. Is this the same type of process with an
34:07
impeachment of a president where both houses have to impeach?
34:12
John C Dvorak: No, the MP did technically once you're voted
34:15
for impeachment. You're exactly the same if the house impeaches
34:20
you and then he goes to the Senate for trial. Oh, okay.
34:23
Adam Curry: All right. So
34:24
John C Dvorak: so it's exactly the same, right. According to
34:27
Johnson, when he was grilled by by Kristin this morning, the
34:33
show that you were referring to earlier as
34:35
Adam Curry: she was yelling up again, by the way, she was
34:37
really yellowed up.
34:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the hands I say put a little they've tried
34:43
to know lighten your hands not
34:44
Adam Curry: even trying. No, no, I don't think they're trying.
34:46
No, I looked at the hands you now you've got me looking at
34:49
people. You can't not look at the hands. You should sit on
34:52
your hands. It's no good.
34:54
John C Dvorak: So Dave Johnson had made it. He says, Well, it's
34:59
not as polite litical as it was with the Republicans, the
35:02
Democrats going after Trump because they didn't do all the
35:05
proceeds because you're supposed to go through a series of
35:07
meetings and committees and bla bla bla bla bla one thing after
35:10
another before you even bring it to the house, you just don't
35:13
bring it straight up the way a Nancy Pelosi did. There is he
35:19
claims because of procedure. There. There is a political
35:24
right, which is nonsense now. Hold
35:25
Adam Curry: on. I see another question. So if they impeach him
35:28
in the house, it means nothing. Correct. It's just a euro to
35:32
embarrassment to me, but he didn't want he doesn't get
35:34
thrown out. Does he get thrown off the job? No. Okay, only if
35:40
the Senate convicts him. Would he then be fired and maybe
35:44
serve? Yeah,
35:45
John C Dvorak: he's fired. Yeah. Yeah. So that's so this is
35:47
Adam Curry: not going to happen? Where
35:49
John C Dvorak: exactly. All right. Let's just do one. Did
35:53
they want to take the higher register? Right. This is all
35:55
election. posturing. Yes. But it's historic, because it's
36:01
different. And that's the only reason I want to play these
36:03
clips, because there's a lot of interesting little tidbits. The
36:05
guy that she's interviewing is the guy who was on the
36:08
impeachment committee, against Clinton. And he's gotten a lot
36:13
of experience with this. And so he has got some funny things to
36:16
say, that are interesting to note. And the fact is that if
36:19
you do have, it seems to me, you have a guy who's the head of
36:22
Homeland Security. That's a big deal. That can't keep fentanyl
36:29
from coming into the country is doing a shitty job. And that's
36:32
what I think the point you're trying to make. I never liked
36:35
this Mayorkas guy anyway.
36:38
Adam Curry: But you're you're not a house representatives.
36:41
Doesn't matter where we think. Can I interject one? Clip? Just
36:50
because we're talking about impeachment. Yeah, this? I don't
36:54
know if you saw this, the PBS Frontline documentary about
36:57
January 6. Yeah, I did see it. I'd like to play a little clip
37:02
here. Because this this accentuates the point of all of
37:06
these impeachments and hearings just being TV show. Is that
37:12
okay?
37:13
Unknown: Yeah, go for it. Thompson's committee had
37:15
gathered a trove of information, to challenge what to do with it.
37:22
The one thing that we knew was the information that we have is
37:26
compelling. The thing we needed to do was tell that to the
37:30
American people in a compelling way. So that's why we brought in
37:34
the former president of ABC News.
37:38
I got a call pretty much out of the blue from the committee.
37:43
They wanted, they wanted a storyteller. And while they were
37:46
brilliant, they were brilliant lawyers. Storytelling for a mass
37:50
audience is not what they do. To bring in a guy like this, who
37:55
would think outside the box really did prove to be fruitful.
37:59
And it was Goldston who really began to envision this as in a
38:02
way a kind of mini series that there would be sort of nine
38:05
episodes, and that these episodes would tackle particular
38:08
themes. On the Capitol, the investigation for first
38:13
hearing was primetime television is
38:15
the nation is about to witness a defining moment, the first
38:18
hearing before the country the results of the January 6
38:20
investigation.
38:22
This is an extraordinary moment in American history.
38:25
When it came to that first error. I noticed the
38:27
Adam Curry: parallel extraordinary moment in American
38:30
history. Never impeach the Cabinet member in 150 years
38:33
extraordinary moments investigation.
38:35
Unknown: This is an extraordinary moment in American
38:38
history.
38:39
When it came to that first hearing. When you how high the
38:42
stakes were
38:43
about to hold its first Primetime hearing. We were
38:47
either gonna, you know, make people realize that this is
38:50
important. You know, or once you once you've lost them, you've
38:54
lost them for good.
38:57
On the evening of June 9, fado 1pm, the doors opened. My heart
39:02
was beating pretty fast on June 9, and it was a real question of
39:09
can we do is this gonna work or not? Come
39:11
Adam Curry: on team. All right, everybody. Here we go. Here we
39:13
go. I'm pleased.
39:14
Unknown: I'm in this three control room right up the stairs
39:17
from Canon caucus. And we count down to to the style of the
39:23
hearing. And we're live people were great. One,
39:34
the select committee to investigate the January 6 attack
39:38
on the United States Capitol will be an order. Without
39:42
objection. We wanted
39:43
to make sure that this was a presentation that would grab the
39:47
audience and hold on to him Chairman Thompson love to say
39:49
it's got a pop.
39:51
Adam Curry: So we of course called this as it was taking
39:54
place. We talked about them bringing in this ABC news guy.
39:58
We talked about them doing this prime time they didn't even do a
40:01
series. They did a couple of them prime time. My question is,
40:05
if this is out there, it's on PBS Frontline. If everyone knows
40:09
that this happened if everyone saw it go down. Why don't the
40:13
Republicans do this? They're not doing it right.
40:18
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm I'm going to disagree with this. No.
40:23
I think that when the Democrats decided to get an ABC producer
40:27
in and put it on prime time, it had the veneer of a TV show.
40:32
Yes. Which nobody really takes that seriously. Because they've
40:36
seen so many of them I think, um, I think yeah, all right. I
40:40
think it I think the credibility went down not up because of the
40:44
overproduction values created by the ABC guy he was putting on a
40:48
TV show must have been law and order I watched law and order
40:51
all the time and after this, I don't want to change my vote or
40:56
anything afterwards. It it's just pure it becomes
41:00
entertainment. And I my system might up in my entertainment
41:06
desiring system sees it as entertainment, but it is
41:10
entertainment. I'm out of there after that, and I can go off and
41:13
do something else. I think it was a huge flop,
41:15
Adam Curry: but you're telling me that Taylor Swift won't
41:17
change your vote from Trump to Biden?
41:20
John C Dvorak: No, she won't.
41:23
Adam Curry: Alright, let's get back to your Majorca clips, to
41:26
get
41:26
John C Dvorak: my clips three.
41:27
Unknown: Now on that note, Speaker Mike Johnson is saying
41:30
it is Secretary Marcus's job to prevent harmful drugs from
41:34
flowing into our country and secure our border. How would a
41:38
Marcus impeachment help secure the border?
41:42
Well, that's a very, very good question. Because even if
41:46
Secretary maracas were impeached, and then removed,
41:49
which is highly unlikely, given the fact that you need a two
41:53
thirds majority in the, in the Senate to convict and remove
41:57
him, and the Republicans are in the minority over there. He
42:02
would be replaced by presumably somebody else ready, willing and
42:06
able to carry out Mr. Biden's policies? So unfortunately, it's
42:11
probably not going to solve the issue. But I think impeaching
42:15
Mr. Marcus is called for, and would send a very clear message,
42:19
at least to the American people, that a majority in the House of
42:23
Representatives is doing everything that it can to
42:27
correct the awful policies and failure to abide by the law on
42:33
our southern border.
42:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, basically saying what you said, Yeah. And
42:42
now I have to ask the question, why did they interrupt all this
42:46
without stupid blood on your hands? Zuckerberg bit? What was
42:51
the point of that? It hasn't stopped anyone from using social
42:54
media. Was that just that layer
42:57
John C Dvorak: now? Now? You got me thinking about that? I
42:59
haven't considered they was in that was? Well, that was? Well,
43:04
that was a Senate hearing if I'm not missing, right.
43:07
Adam Curry: Yes. And I'd look so and I looked at the bills that
43:10
they were talking about. And I went through them, you know, as
43:13
I do, like, really through through like the kids Online
43:17
Safety Act cosa. And all I find, yeah, yeah, I see some stuff in
43:21
there, like some interesting terminology, like addictive
43:24
feeds, okay. But all the stuff is everything you'd expect, you
43:28
know, in two years, we'll implement this. You have to you
43:32
got to adhere to guys. Nothing, nothing spectacular. I mean,
43:37
it's complete performative nonstop about
43:40
John C Dvorak: this. The Johnson himself has said this, that the
43:44
Senate is not going to do anything. There's no as one of
43:49
the reporters said, he got feedback from the Senate
43:52
Republicans that they're not going to do anything to rip. The
43:55
Senate is so divorced from that house. And so far, the
43:59
Republicans in the Senate are so divorced from the house, I just
44:02
don't Republicans, they're just doing stuff. This may have been
44:05
the Zuckerberg thing we made just to cover up the fact that
44:08
there's other that this impeachment is going on, so it
44:11
doesn't draw any attention to it. Right. I
44:14
Adam Curry: think there's me thinking people would care which
44:16
they don't smoke
44:18
John C Dvorak: screen, the cranium screen. So this is the
44:20
last clip and then we can maybe figure it out.
44:22
Unknown: On that note, what do you see as the next steps in
44:25
this case? Some are saying it could die in the House, the
44:27
Senate, as you just pointed out, or could we actually see a
44:30
conviction? What do you see next?
44:32
It will of course, now that the committee with jurisdiction, Mr.
44:37
Greens Homeland Security Committee has reported out to
44:40
Articles of Impeachment to the full house, it will be up to
44:44
Speaker Johnson to schedule a vote. Now, whether or not the
44:48
Republicans will be able to secure a majority for that is
44:52
itself a question because of the very, very slim majority that
44:57
they have. But hopefully They will have a majority. And if in
45:02
fact a bare majority votes on either one or both of those
45:08
articles of impeachment, it will, in fact over to the Senate
45:11
and the Senate will have to conduct a trial and then vote on
45:15
whether or not to convict and remove Mr. Mayorkas.
45:21
John C Dvorak: So this is a political ploy. This is done
45:24
just before the election. So the Republicans in the House it
45:28
Adam Curry: got a little bit of runway before the election.
45:31
Yeah, but
45:31
John C Dvorak: this if they get the impeachment to go through,
45:34
which will probably take you a month, and then they have to
45:36
send it to the Senate, this thing of drag on close to the
45:39
election, because they're just not going to be able to ram it
45:42
through that fast. It's a slow process. This and Johnson has
45:49
made a point of making it a slow process by going through all
45:51
these committees and beaten. And then there's the Biden
45:55
impeachment coming up.
45:56
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, gracious. So we have it's, it's
46:00
just all political. It's just keep going on. For the
46:02
political. It's
46:03
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm out campaigning against the Democrat
46:07
or I'm a Democrat. I'm already an incumbent Democrat, and I get
46:10
a Republican coming up against me and the Republican can say,
46:13
this person voted, would refuse to vote for the impeachment of
46:17
the of the man who's, you know, poisoning the country with
46:21
fentanyl poisoning? got blood on his hands. So it's all Yeah,
46:31
it's totally political. But what else is new at this year with
46:34
this house and senate?
46:36
Adam Curry: Well, then I might as well bring this up. Because
46:40
I've determined now that the Taylor Swift up is actually
46:44
people talking about the OP. That's the OP. By
46:47
John C Dvorak: the way that I was at the meet up, went to the
46:51
Albany Mallard club meet up Yeah. And that's what exactly
46:55
exactly what they were talking about the opposite. They were
46:57
talking about Taylor's
46:59
Adam Curry: I have a couple of clips just to just to accentuate
47:02
the point. Because that's all it's Super Bowl. Marketing,
47:07
obviously. Yeah. But so first, they won't need her after this.
47:12
There's this fake clip that's going around, which was sent to
47:15
me several times by people saying, Look at this Good
47:18
morning, Taylor
47:19
Unknown: Swift is not a psyop Taylor Swift is not a sign.
47:22
Taylor Swift is not as Swift is not a sale Taylor Swift does not
47:26
assign or Swift is not assigned. Taylor Swift
47:38
Adam Curry: so they took that video, the very famous video of
47:41
all of the what was that news outlet that all had the same
47:45
screen? Claire Sinclair. Yeah. And they just added this, these
47:48
voices over it. Okay. Here's what actually was going on. Have
47:53
you
47:53
Unknown: ever wondered why or how she blew up like this? Well,
47:57
around four years ago, the Pentagon Psychological
48:00
Operations Unit floated turning Taylor Swift into an asset
48:04
that's during a NATO meeting. So is swift a front for a covert
48:08
political agenda? Primetime obviously has no evidence. If we
48:12
did, we'd share it.
48:13
It's a coordinated marketing campaign by Democrats to
48:16
leverage celebrities to excite their base into coming out and
48:20
voting. Why alienate
48:22
your vote?
48:26
John C Dvorak: So you had what's his name on there? Jesse was at
48:30
the beginning, Jesse waters, Jesse waters. And when he I
48:35
thought you I thought you're gonna play something else,
48:37
because I saw this clip where he he actually did on his show. I
48:40
don't know what that was. That was his short, the five or the
48:44
combination clip of some
48:45
Adam Curry: we played that clip, we played the whole clip of that
48:48
psychological art. We played the whole thing.
48:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with the woman. Yeah, we played Taylor
48:54
Swift's a good idea. We played the whole thing. Yeah. So why is
48:58
he kind of saying that doesn't that doesn't exist? Where did
49:00
you just seems that that this is just a comp congruence? This
49:04
Adam Curry: is just the compilation of idiots on
49:07
television participating in the OP, which is just to get people
49:11
to watch television and go online football and when it
49:14
ended before Megyn Kelly to talk about it and you know, and
49:17
everyone to talk about it. That's the whole point. Whatever
49:20
you do, don't look at the bombs. Don't look at the bombs, don't
49:22
look at the bombs. Look at the border, look at the border. Look
49:25
at Taylor Swift, the god
49:27
Unknown: of primetime obviously has no evidence. If we did we'd
49:31
share
49:31
it. It's a coordinated marketing campaign by Democrats to
49:34
leverage celebrities to excite their base into coming out
49:38
voting.
49:38
Why alienate
49:40
the your, your fans and Swifties you know, they come across from
49:44
every political ideology. Why put yourself in one area don't
49:49
get involved. Don't get involved in politics. We don't want to
49:52
see you there.
49:53
Let's not forget that Taylor Swift has made a career off of
49:56
writing songs about picking the wrong man so I don't think We
50:00
shouldn't take advice from her now. CBS
50:02
Adam Curry: actually took it one step further and brought in an
50:04
analyst
50:05
Unknown: All right, they're considered America's favorite
50:07
couple you know then pop star Taylor slays
50:09
Adam Curry: the Superbowl airing on CBS what station is Aaron
50:12
this year? Oh, I
50:14
John C Dvorak: thought it was on Fox this year. Okay. All right.
50:18
Unknown: That would make sense. All right. They're considered
50:20
America's favorite couple you know them pop star Taylor Swift
50:23
and Kansas City Chiefs star, Travis Kelce. But the attention
50:27
on their relationship is also inspiring some truly bizarre
50:31
conspiracy theories online. Some on the far right are claiming
50:34
the two are part of some kind of to sway the election toward Joe
50:39
Biden. Yeah, so how did these made up theories quickly spread?
50:43
Jolin Kent has the story.
50:45
Adam Curry: Joe link tell us pop
50:46
Unknown: icon indicating a superstar athlete mixing a trip
50:49
to the Super Bowl and you have the ingredients for an alt right
50:52
conspiracy. age of the internet
50:55
so is swift a front for a covert political agenda. Right wing
50:59
media outlets have spent weeks parroting the baseless claims
51:02
that swift and Travis Kelce are at the center of a liberal plot
51:06
against former President Donald Trump,
51:08
build them up, build them up, build them up. And then at the
51:10
moment of truth, they're going to endorse Biden,
51:13
but the bad blood which goes back years, in 2018, she
51:18
endorsed two Democrats in Tennessee. And during the 2020
51:26
election, Trump threw her support behind Joe Biden. Their
51:29
meteoric rise in popularity in recent months has riled up some
51:33
Trump diehards, including former GOP presidential candidate for
51:37
VEC Ramaswamy, leading many to speculate without evidence that
51:41
the Super Bowl outcome is quote, rigged to give swift a bigger
51:45
platform to endorse Biden again.
51:48
Adam Curry: So now now we're bringing sports ball into it
51:50
this whole thing, the whole thing is advertising for the
51:54
Super Bowl. And then yeah, oh, absolutely. They brought in some
51:57
AI.
51:58
Unknown: How quickly did these conspiracy theories proliferate?
52:01
So these will typically start to simmer in the dark web and kind
52:06
of the free dark web,
52:08
Adam Curry: John. Oh, it's the dark web. He should have said
52:10
podcast, but it's the dark web. This is where it simmers in the
52:13
dark web.
52:15
Unknown: These will typically start to simmer, simmer in the
52:18
dark web and kind of the fringes and underbelly of the internet
52:22
and then at some point, they gain traction, or
52:25
Adam Curry: what can you do have a directions to the underbelly
52:28
of the internet for me,
52:29
John C Dvorak: I'd really like to check the underbelly of the
52:31
internet.
52:31
Adam Curry: Check that out from time to time around
52:33
Unknown: other events. In this case,
52:35
it was a Super Bowl will seem Khaled is the CEO of Blackbird
52:38
AI, a company that monitors disinformation. Here, we can
52:42
see all these individual little small conversations all starting
52:45
to connect. LED
52:46
showed us how his company's AI driven platform has been
52:49
tracking conspiracies about Swift and Kelsey for months. So
52:53
here
52:53
we actually see that spread. We see it snowballing. And we can
52:56
actually see a narrative evolve, grow and become more harmful
53:00
over time, in fact, harmful often when we color code
53:03
something red that could be bought like activities.
53:07
There's proof that social media can take a kernel of a lie and
53:13
turn it into an entire corn on the cob.
53:16
Longtime pollster Frank Luntz believes that Trump and his base
53:19
may have turned on Swift because they worry about her influence
53:23
on the younger electorate. Last year, more than 35,000 new
53:27
voters signed up in one day after swift encouraged her
53:30
Instagram followers to register to vote, and for groups looking
53:34
to undermine Swift or anyone else's influence. Khaled says
53:38
the disinformation playbook is abundantly clear
53:41
whether financial motives or ideological that the tradecraft
53:46
that's developed cyber attacks developed over the years. It's
53:50
designed to be an attack on human perception.
53:53
Adam Curry: This whole it's unbelievable. This is all just
53:57
feeling airtime.
53:58
John C Dvorak: Yes. And I will say it is CBS here we were. This
54:02
is correct. CBS carrying the game, a lot of CBS data. That's
54:06
why the other thing is she she I heard, by the way 25,000 But say
54:13
she got 35,000 people to register to vote. Wow, I was
54:18
questioning in the last show the idea that she has 275 million
54:24
followers and if they are eligible to vote at all, that
54:28
well, let's assume that maybe half of them are but let's
54:31
assume a third of them are which is almost 100 million people.
54:34
You can only get 35,000 out of that group. It's worse than
54:38
that. It's worse than are getting people to donate to the
54:42
show. In terms of percentage Wow.
54:46
Adam Curry: Taylor's Taylor Swift can't even get get us to
54:50
get get people to donate.
54:53
John C Dvorak: So that's like bogus
54:55
Adam Curry: it's all it's at the end. They should what is the
54:58
Grammys airing on tonight wasn't Not
55:00
John C Dvorak: what's the opposite Grammys weren't the
55:02
Grammys last Sunday? No, they're
55:04
Adam Curry: this Sunday there tonight. That they were now that
55:07
tonight. there tonight. I
55:09
John C Dvorak: was. I was reading on that. Just going from
55:11
my news rundown. I'm looking at the winners. There is people
55:15
went Oh no,
55:16
Adam Curry: this has got to be tonight. Okay, well, I may be
55:19
wrong now. No. Um, am I going?
55:22
John C Dvorak: You're wondering you're wondering about yourself.
55:23
60s 60s
55:26
Adam Curry: Annual Grammy Awards. 66, by the way, should
55:30
be filled with lots of devil stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, it's
55:33
John C Dvorak: always gonna be good. Let
55:34
Adam Curry: me see. 60s is 66 is this February 4 2024. Tonight.
55:41
Okay, and they will have watching and they will because
55:44
thanks to COVID they will have a 16 minute dead segment.
55:52
John C Dvorak: Or they get dead segment is 16 whole minutes.
55:54
Yep. That's That's how many people are dead. And it says
55:57
thanks to COVID No, that's editorializing
56:01
Adam Curry: by yours truly. Just briefly on the AI thing, it's a
56:07
lot of dead you know, comics or blogger has put together
56:10
something called the no agenda. GPT Yeah, and there's a link in
56:16
the show notes and so people tried it out. And so there was a
56:20
question about no agenda social and here's what the what the AI
56:24
came back with. The platform was created as an initiative to do
56:28
the right thing for the community, but face challenges
56:31
in moderation and management. It was run by Adam curry initially
56:35
then managed by others including Ryan Seacrest at one point I
56:43
love AI it's it's a comedians dream
56:47
John C Dvorak: it goes along you know something fun find he's
56:50
going along and doing his thing and then some bond some
56:54
ludicrous bomb is dropped in there. I love it. This is the
56:57
product this is the same thing with self driving vehicles. It
57:01
was turned out that vandals like at a stop sign. Yeah, you know,
57:06
you could write put under stop war and then the car won't see
57:10
the sign correctly. And I mean, there's this all these little
57:14
things you can do to a self driving car to make it to
57:17
confuse it because it's crap. It's junk this the whole idea is
57:22
that if it wasn't for vandals and I actually think the Vandals
57:27
there was a thing that happened recently about the the Taylor
57:30
Swift and nude pictures. There was somebody being interviewed
57:34
about this. And on PBS.
57:38
Adam Curry: Again, talking about the opposite. The OP is that's
57:41
just what it is. Yes.
57:42
John C Dvorak: As part of the hour and by the way, if you want
57:43
to take part at least your own little way in the app, go to
57:46
duck duck go. Type in Taylor Swift and Ay ay ay nudes
57:53
brother. And I didn't want to do it. But after I watched this
57:56
thing on PBS, and I know these things even out there anymore.
57:59
Yeah, they're not. It's millions of them. I mean, this guy's got,
58:05
it's unbelievable. And so you Holy mackerel, and some of the
58:10
lewd material is just beyond the pale. But so I'm listening to
58:14
this woman and the guy asks or he says, so who's responsible?
58:18
Who does this sort of thing and then she doesn't know what to
58:21
say. She's the tech expert. She goes on and yak yak yak. And
58:25
what I would have said was vandals we have there in our
58:29
midst, they do their thing. And it's it's a good thing. They're
58:33
there because it alerts us to the fact that these These
58:36
problems exist and can be exploited so easily by what
58:40
amounts to just a bunch of punk kids.
58:43
Adam Curry: It's really nothing new. You know, they're just
58:46
nothing new
58:46
John C Dvorak: and just better catch him just better us all. is
58:50
nothing new. You can't catch them unless they're dumb, but
58:52
that must have been
58:53
Adam Curry: the, I think we've talked about in the last show. I
58:55
think that was set up just to you know, it was two days before
59:00
the Zuckerberg blood on your hands thing. So I think they
59:04
just abusing Taylor Swift now she should get out of the public
59:06
eye. This is a very, very dumb idea. This is going to backfire
59:10
on her it will not end pretty Yeah,
59:12
John C Dvorak: that's your basic thesis about media in general.
59:15
Yes, you use it for it always. And every time you always say it
59:18
and then about a year later it
59:20
Unknown: happens. Brands back Yeah. You
59:23
John C Dvorak: spiked the ball and we're done.
59:25
Adam Curry: Thank the Vandals Yes, we shall thank the vandals.
59:30
I just want to go back to because I know you have a three
59:33
by three about this. This whole The whole reason for launching b
59:41
one bombers and which is I think a lot more expensive than one
59:45
intercontinental ballistic missile or what Trump did you
59:48
know let's target one dude, let's get Soleimani he died like
59:52
a dog. Now which gave
59:54
John C Dvorak: I was always thinking they did that the whole
59:56
idea of these predators where he could pinpoint you know who you
59:59
want to kill I mean, they could do it. I mean, even American
1:00:02
citizens, but the sand $173,000 An hour bomber. Yeah. Which was
1:00:09
the United States in the Middle East and back.
1:00:11
Adam Curry: It's not it's not really targeting. It's not
1:00:13
surgical strikes. I mean, it's it's your carpet bombing with
1:00:17
those things. Yeah.
1:00:19
John C Dvorak: So beautiful place.
1:00:21
Adam Curry: It all started while it all started with tower 22.
1:00:25
And what we were led to believe, is that tower 22 had one of its
1:00:31
drones coming back. And they turned off whatever security
1:00:35
systems they had. And then the Iranian drone snuck in a one way
1:00:39
drone, which means it's one of those lawnmower duties, which
1:00:43
really have a very hard they have a very limited range. So
1:00:48
where that was launched from is interesting, but you know, so
1:00:51
there's been a lot of analysis about tower 22. And I don't know
1:00:56
if you've seen the satellite picture. Tower 22 doesn't have a
1:01:01
runway. They have helicopters, and they have a helipad and they
1:01:07
have helicopter taxiway. But if so what drone was coming back,
1:01:12
it wasn't a Reaper drone that needs a proper runway to land.
1:01:16
And that's a good point. And every single American aircraft
1:01:21
has what's known as an IFF if Friend or Foe transponder. So,
1:01:28
if something's coming in, you don't you don't turn off the
1:01:32
receiver. This thing stinks. I'm not believing that this went
1:01:39
down the way we've been told. Now that's whenever we lose
1:01:43
something. The first thing we want is we either destroy or we
1:01:46
retrieve our transponder that nobody wants anyone to unless
1:01:50
the Iranians now maybe have an IFF transponder. I'm getting
1:01:54
this from boots on the ground. And the idea of this Iranian
1:02:00
lawnmower drone coming in without a transponder, which has
1:02:04
a limited range. I'm told two kilometers I'll give it I'll
1:02:09
give it 20 kilometers doesn't matter. Where did it come from?
1:02:12
This it stinks. Stinks stinks. It all stinks of let's just go
1:02:17
and bomb something. We don't we're not even wouldn't have no
1:02:20
pictures. Do we even bomb anything? I mean, honestly, do
1:02:25
you have any pictures? When we did? Iraq? We did shock and awe.
1:02:28
That's what I was hoping for. Show me shock and awe. Now we
1:02:32
say we just said 86. We know if we killed anybody. You know, we
1:02:36
got the we got some militants? I'm even questioning that.
1:02:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you are.
1:02:44
Adam Curry: Can I play a couple of Kirby clips because he's
1:02:46
always the most fun to listen to when it comes. Yeah, I
1:02:48
John C Dvorak: just want to mention it before it played
1:02:50
through right through a Do we have a bunch of clips from Al
1:02:52
Jazeera about the situation and I kind of concentrated on a
1:02:58
Iranian professor at the University of Tehran to remind
1:03:03
us a number of things that I forgot about in that it's going
1:03:06
to be kind of a it's very interesting.
1:03:10
Adam Curry: So you want to do you want to play those first you
1:03:12
want you want to do the Chorale? What's
1:03:13
John C Dvorak: Kirby say here and your clips?
1:03:16
Adam Curry: It's Kirby. It's always fun to listen to a broken
1:03:20
knee bonehead Rear Admiral
1:03:22
Unknown: Joining us now to discuss more of this from
1:03:24
Washington is National Security Council spokesman, John Kirby.
1:03:27
John, good morning to you. It's great to have you back. So So
1:03:30
we've heard from you, and repeatedly from the
1:03:32
administration that these strikes against the Houthis are
1:03:34
intended to degrade their capabilities. But so far, it
1:03:38
hasn't stopped them. Is there any expectation that the result
1:03:41
will be different or more definitive after this latest
1:03:44
round?
1:03:46
Well, we'll see what happens the Pentagon is doing an assessment
1:03:49
right now with to see, to see what the effect was not only the
1:03:52
strikes in Iraq and Syria on Friday night, but the strikes in
1:03:55
Yemen yesterday, we are continuing to go after their
1:03:59
ability to hit us. And in the case of the Houthis to hit
1:04:03
international shipping, we are trying to take away their
1:04:05
capability make it harder for them to throw these punches.
1:04:09
Again, we think we achieved good effects in both rounds of these
1:04:12
strikes, both in Yemen and Iraq and Syria on Friday night. But
1:04:15
we're still doing the assessment on that, you know,
1:04:18
Adam Curry: I've always seen these videos and the video which
1:04:22
shows the missile going and then you all sudden there's a big
1:04:26
flash and then the camera goes dead. And that assessment is
1:04:29
clear. But there's none of that.
1:04:31
Unknown: But John isn't that the criticism, though? Like is
1:04:33
degrading their capabilities enough? I mean, what do you say
1:04:36
to these shipping companies who have had to travel 1000s of
1:04:39
miles to avoid this area because they don't have safety and
1:04:42
security in the Red Sea?
1:04:46
I tell them that the President has put together a coalition of
1:04:49
20 some odd countries doesn't even
1:04:51
Adam Curry: know the exact numbers just 20 some odd, I'm
1:04:54
telling you, John, this thing's
1:04:57
John C Dvorak: good catch. You would know exam? Yeah, yeah,
1:05:02
they know the number. Yeah, of course
1:05:04
Adam Curry: they know the number. It's none
1:05:06
Unknown: ships and aircraft and other capabilities in the Red
1:05:08
Sea to try to make that passage as safe as possible. Now, we
1:05:11
can't guarantee that there still won't be attacks on their ships.
1:05:14
But we are doing everything we can with the international
1:05:17
community to protect that shipping. We know how vital a
1:05:20
waterway the Red Sea is.
1:05:22
Adam Curry: All right.
1:05:24
John C Dvorak: Why don't did the Z ask him the simple question
1:05:26
which I would have asked if I was the guy there, which is the
1:05:30
Houthis captured a ship and they're using it as a tourist
1:05:33
attraction. Why don't we go recapture that ship? Because I
1:05:37
knew I didn't know they were a big tourist country. We're
1:05:39
always looking for tourist attractions, because I
1:05:41
understand now that the ship is tourist attraction number one,
1:05:45
and the Seattle fish market where you toss a fish is number
1:05:48
two for the tooth. He's living in Seattle for a while they're
1:05:51
going there Look at the fish. I mean, are we kidding me?
1:05:54
Adam Curry: No. Instead, let's remind our viewers of some
1:05:57
important information.
1:05:58
Unknown: And it's important to remind our viewers there are
1:06:00
multiple operations happening here. Because separately, you
1:06:03
noted earlier, the US launched those retaliatory strikes
1:06:06
against Iranian backed groups in Syria and Iraq. Of course, this
1:06:09
is a response to three Americans who were killed in Jordan. Is
1:06:14
there more to come with that operation? And how soon
1:06:16
Adam Curry: and I hate to be morbid about it. But we haven't.
1:06:21
I don't think President Biden was at the caskets coming home.
1:06:26
Which you should be it certainly if you're playing it. Oh, he was
1:06:30
there. Was he looking at it?
1:06:32
John C Dvorak: I took a photo. There's a screenshot of it. He
1:06:35
had the the look on his face was I've never seen I mean, it's the
1:06:39
worst Biden look he could possibly have his mouth. It's
1:06:42
just that screwball Look, he has i He was standing there with it
1:06:47
with his wife. I
1:06:48
Adam Curry: hate to be morbid, but you know, I've seen three
1:06:50
pictures. Three black Americans Brown, brownish black. One one a
1:06:55
woman, which Korean John Paul Pierre Cardew didn't even know.
1:07:01
Because, you know, she couldn't say Oh, three of our folks or
1:07:05
folks didn't even know. I mean, is this stock photography? I'm
1:07:09
really starting to question this now. I will really with AI, you
1:07:13
can just make face make new faces. I'm question
1:07:16
Unknown: there is more to come. What you saw Friday night was
1:07:19
just the first round. And it's not going to be the last one by
1:07:22
any stretch, I won't get ahead of military operations one way
1:07:25
or another what they're going to look like when they're going to
1:07:27
come. But the President has been clear, we are going to respond
1:07:31
in a forceful way three Americans were killed, dozens
1:07:34
were wounded. We have got to respond in a strong and
1:07:38
aggressive way. And we'll continue to do that. But there
1:07:40
will be more, there will be more response options as a result of
1:07:43
that
1:07:43
Adam Curry: attack. Now, the obvious question is why were you
1:07:46
just yapping and yapping and yapping for a week and telling
1:07:49
everybody it's common like you're doing again?
1:07:51
Unknown: Why did it take nearly a week though, to carry out
1:07:54
those strikes to that give the militants time to regroup, hide
1:07:57
and protect their resources?
1:07:59
Adam Curry: Oh, protect their resources? Well,
1:08:01
Unknown: it takes it takes time to develop the target sets to
1:08:04
make sure you've got enough visibility on the target just
1:08:09
Adam Curry: to be sure you Oh, wait for it, hitting what
1:08:11
Unknown: you're aiming at. And we feel like we did what
1:08:13
Adam Curry: we have the most sophisticated weapons in the
1:08:16
world, we got to make sure you're hitting what you're
1:08:18
aiming at. And we did Where's the video,
1:08:21
Unknown: but that takes time to develop. You know, there's also
1:08:23
the weather weather be a factor in something like this. I mean,
1:08:25
the strikes that we took on Friday night, we're using manned
1:08:28
aircraft, including bombers from the United States. And of
1:08:31
course, you want to make sure that your pilots are safe and
1:08:33
secure as they conduct these vital missions.
1:08:35
Adam Curry: Is this like D Day where we had to we had to wait
1:08:38
for the weather to clear up? Is that where we're at now.
1:08:40
Unknown: So weather plays a factor in all that, that it
1:08:42
wasn't, it wasn't an exorbitant amount of time here. We needed a
1:08:46
little time to prepare ourselves. You. For what as for
1:08:49
your other question, as you I'm sorry, I interrupted you. But
1:08:52
you asked us about what weather the Iranians are the Iranian
1:08:56
backed groups, I'm sorry. The militia groups moved anything
1:08:59
around. I can't speak to that. Specifically, we did the best
1:09:01
intelligence assessment that we can in terms of developing these
1:09:04
targets.
1:09:05
Adam Curry: So he knows nothing. We know nothing. The weather was
1:09:07
not cooperating. Did you call anybody over there? Did you say
1:09:11
did you pick up the phone and say, Hey, stop killing our
1:09:13
people? Anything like that? I
1:09:15
Unknown: wanted to just pick up on something you said recently
1:09:17
that the US is not speaking directly, no direct channels
1:09:21
with Iran in the region. Why not? Some say that's exactly
1:09:25
what should be happening to prevent further escalation.
1:09:28
Yeah,
1:09:28
Adam Curry: call somebody.
1:09:30
Unknown: It's not like we haven't had direct
1:09:31
communications with the Iranians before what I said was we
1:09:34
haven't had any direct messaging.
1:09:36
Adam Curry: Oh, they're DMing now this they were DMing when
1:09:39
they slide into your DMS moolah, but we're not doing that anymore
1:09:43
right communications
1:09:44
Unknown: with the Iranians before what I said was we
1:09:46
haven't had any direct messaging to the Iranian are
1:09:50
Adam Curry: they using Facebook do you think are they using
1:09:53
WhatsApp to DM audience
1:09:55
Unknown: since the attack
1:09:56
but isn't it now that now that people little moment for that
1:10:01
discussion, those direct talks. No, we
1:10:03
Adam Curry: got to shoot more crap. We're
1:10:04
Unknown: sending a pretty strong signal with these with these
1:10:06
strikes that we took on Friday night. And I guarantee that
1:10:09
we're going to be sending another strong signal to the
1:10:11
Iranians and to the groups that they're backing the IRGC and the
1:10:16
groups that they're backing over coming days.
1:10:18
John Kirby, thank you so much for your time this morning. We
1:10:20
do appreciate it.
1:10:22
Adam Curry: To me, this is outrageous,
1:10:24
Unknown: his salary ranges.
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: That brings me to some different group clips,
1:10:29
okay, there's this guy, Joe Pachinko. He's a colonel,
1:10:34
retired boy who they brought on this was yesterday. This is
1:10:38
Brian on the PBS
1:10:39
Adam Curry: retired in air quotes.
1:10:42
John C Dvorak: I think so yeah. Because when you listen to him
1:10:44
talk, he talks and he talks as a group and the group he
1:10:48
represents his the intelligence community. Okay. It's never set
1:10:52
mentioned but when you read between the lines just listening
1:10:54
to him, he's getting information. Why does he have
1:10:57
any of this information is retired colonel. What does he do
1:11:00
for a living they never say, but he's somehow an expert on the in
1:11:04
the on the topic and they brought him in to the first time
1:11:06
I've ever seen this guy. And he's actually pretty good. As a
1:11:10
spokes, you know, as the spokes hold for whoever knows what that
1:11:13
this is p sorry, PBS weekend one.
1:11:16
Unknown: As we come on the air tonight the United States is
1:11:18
carrying out a second wave of airstrikes against dozens of
1:11:21
Iran back Houthi targets in Yemen. We
1:11:24
Adam Curry: got to start using that as we come on the podcast
1:11:26
today. Here's what's going on.
1:11:30
Unknown: Today assault is in response to last weekend's drone
1:11:32
strike in Jordan that killed three US troops and injured
1:11:35
dozens more. Last night's Air Assault struck sites in Iraq and
1:11:39
Syria used by Iran backed militias. Pentagon officials
1:11:43
said it took just 30 minutes Friday night for B one bombers
1:11:46
and other US aircraft to hit more than 85 targets. Rockin
1:11:51
serious of the attacks killed at least 34 people, both members of
1:11:55
Iranian backed militant groups and civilians. Joe Buccino is a
1:11:59
retired US Army Colonel he was the top spokesman at Central
1:12:03
Command. Joe talk about how you design an event like this A
1:12:07
retaliatory strike like this
1:12:09
Adam Curry: is CENTCOM the guys who led all the planes come
1:12:11
through a 911 Wasn't that CENTCOM
1:12:14
John C Dvorak: Central Command? I have no idea. Please come to
1:12:17
her and think
1:12:18
Unknown: about how you design an event like this A retaliatory
1:12:21
strike like this. On the one hand, you want to do something
1:12:23
strong enough to get their attention. But on the other
1:12:26
hand, you don't want to do anything too strong.
1:12:28
So John, there's basically a range of options from low level
1:12:32
of violence to high level of violence, you know, the high
1:12:35
level you're talking about strikes inside of Iran. Low
1:12:39
level, you're talking about the kind of little precision strikes
1:12:43
we've done we've been doing since November. This is about
1:12:47
what we've done. You know, just tonight, and then last night is
1:12:50
in the low to medium range. Okay. So you present these
1:12:54
options to the White House. The Pentagon makes a recommendation.
1:12:58
Ultimately the National Security Council in the White House
1:13:00
renders a decision.
1:13:02
Adam Curry: Just it's bacino with a b b UCC Ino, and he is
1:13:08
under inspector general investigation as of May fifth
1:13:12
2023.
1:13:14
Unknown: That's interesting. Okay, look.
1:13:19
John C Dvorak: So they when they say b one, bombers, bombers
1:13:23
numbers, that implies there's more than one. Yes. I agree. So
1:13:29
I just want to say three. This is like a billions of B
1:13:34
literally billions of dollars. Or a million millions and
1:13:38
millions. Billions. Depends on probably a billion. It just
1:13:42
seems existing.
1:13:43
Adam Curry: This markup there's markup. Yeah, this. You're
1:13:46
talking wholesale? We're looking at retail prices here. Yeah, of
1:13:50
course, that rampant. The whole thing is, I hate to say it
1:13:54
because we have lots of military personnel. But I think they know
1:13:56
as well. It's everything is corrupt. And I and there was
1:14:01
this young man 18 years old at the church, and he's going off.
1:14:05
You know, he's a Marine. He did his basic training. Now he's
1:14:08
going to California. He'll be in this in the region within six
1:14:11
months. It's disgusting.
1:14:17
John C Dvorak: Onward.
1:14:18
Unknown: What is the response from Iran and from these
1:14:21
militant groups? What does it tell you?
1:14:23
I'm cautiously optimistic right now. Iran has denounced the
1:14:27
strikes. But they haven't said anything about a retaliation.
1:14:31
And there's signals here that Iran wants to hold back on some
1:14:37
of these Shia proxy groups that maybe they've gotten a little
1:14:41
bit out of control or out of the control of Ismail Connie. He is
1:14:45
the senior commander of the Quds Force in Iran in Iran. And so
1:14:50
maybe he wants to pull them back. So I'm optimistic about
1:14:53
that.
1:14:53
Does he have that control? When is he able to pull them back?
1:14:56
What we're hearing is
1:14:57
that, you know, you think about Kasim Suleiman Honey, you know,
1:15:00
this powerful figure shadowy figure who really controlled
1:15:04
these forces so tightly for so long, when when he was struck,
1:15:09
that really degraded Iran, it really took away their
1:15:12
capability. But it also took away their ability to control
1:15:15
these loose groups in Iraq and Syria and Jordan in Yemen. And
1:15:19
they've gotten a little bit out of control. And now he's trying
1:15:22
to pull them back. So there's concern in Iran, there's concern
1:15:26
in DC, nobody wants to escalate. So I'm optimistic about that. We
1:15:30
Adam Curry: don't want to escalate, we're just, we're
1:15:32
gonna do more, we're gonna do more, I'm
1:15:33
John C Dvorak: reminded of the we had a clip it was probably
1:15:36
six months ago for someone who says that a lot of this is this
1:15:40
was a scam between when we're still in close contact with Iran
1:15:45
to make sure that they get their monies and some other and get it
1:15:48
stopped a new program to some extent, or at least being in bed
1:15:52
with EMS. And the whole every all this is a cover for the fact
1:15:56
that we're really working with Iran. I mean, I don't know if
1:16:02
that's even a possibility. But that's what this one guy
1:16:05
claimed. If you recall that clip, I'm
1:16:09
Adam Curry: trying to think I don't have that per se. But I
1:16:14
did hear I know if I clipped it this morning, that what is being
1:16:18
done here is seen as nothing that doing nothing to Iran. I
1:16:22
think it was probably Mike Johnson. He said that, you know,
1:16:25
we should be we should be cutting their money off doing
1:16:29
stuff like that. Yeah, that makes it hold on a second. I
1:16:33
think I have it here. Yeah, this listen to this bit
1:16:38
Unknown: of what Jake Solomon just said, I listened to that
1:16:40
interview, it was interesting. We need to make absolutely clear
1:16:44
to Iran that nothing is off the table. You know, we maintain
1:16:47
peace through strength. That was the Reagan Doctrine. That's what
1:16:50
President Trump bombed them again, he continued, and that's
1:16:53
what we have to do right now. We should not be appeasing Iran.
1:16:58
That's what the Biden administration has been doing
1:17:00
for the last three years. We're projecting weakness on the world
1:17:02
stage. And frankly, Kristen, that is why our adversaries are
1:17:06
acting so provocatively, what we need to be doing right now is
1:17:10
turning up the heat on Iran, we need to act to decimate the Iran
1:17:14
Central Bank, the assets that they held there, we need to lean
1:17:19
on international banks to seize the assets of Iranian proxies.
1:17:22
We need to put big time pressure maximum pressure on their oil
1:17:26
exports. There's a lot that we could do to Iran to send a
1:17:29
message, instead of this appeasement strategy is just
1:17:31
including strikes,
1:17:32
Mr. Speaker, including strikes, just to be clear. It
1:17:36
shouldn't. It should not be off the table. Let me give you just
1:17:40
a quick example. You know, this is from this morning in the
1:17:42
Trump administration, we used a drone and three missiles to take
1:17:46
out Qasem Soleimani in near Baghdad, that sent a strong
1:17:50
message and it quelled all of the activity there what what
1:17:53
we're doing right now, we're sending we're using potentially
1:17:56
hundreds of munitions to strike close to 100 targets so far, but
1:18:00
we're not going right to the heart of the matter. I think
1:18:02
that's a real problem.
1:18:03
Adam Curry: So I think you're right. And I think Johnson is
1:18:06
agreeing here by saying, we're not really doing anything to
1:18:09
Iran. We're just shooting some stuff. We're just spending
1:18:12
money. And we should we should cut off their banking.
1:18:17
Unknown: Yay, gonna happen? No, because, well,
1:18:21
Adam Curry: if we do, then we just work with Russia, we just
1:18:23
bring in pallets of dollars. Remember, remember
1:18:26
John C Dvorak: that, like $4 billion in cash, just drop
1:18:30
Adam Curry: it off in cash. No problem. By the way, this, this
1:18:33
Pacino guy, he was suspended last year from command. And a
1:18:38
command climate survey found that 97% of his staff reported a
1:18:43
hostile command climate. Two thirds of them reported low
1:18:46
morale roughly another quarter reported they witnessed sexual
1:18:49
and or racial harassment. This is an interesting guy to bring
1:18:54
on PBS.
1:18:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what you mention it good work. ethic
1:18:59
run a clip three.
1:19:00
Unknown: Yeah. Some Republicans in Congress have criticized the
1:19:03
Biden administration for what they say waiting too long. This
1:19:06
strike was last weekend. That took a full week. What do you
1:19:09
make of that? What do you say to that?
1:19:10
I agree. I agree. Look, if there's an intellectual thrust
1:19:16
of the Biden foreign policy, it's conflict avoidance, and,
1:19:21
you know, avoidance of escalation. And that's generally
1:19:24
a good impulse for an American president here. It doesn't serve
1:19:28
us well. And if you look at the history of Iran, it doesn't
1:19:30
serve us well here. You know, for five days, we've been
1:19:33
talking about this for five days, we've been talking about
1:19:35
what we're not going to do. And I think it signals to Iran, that
1:19:40
they can continue to kind of push us around. They can
1:19:43
continue to strike at our bases. And we're not going to make them
1:19:46
feel pain, because what we do to the Houthis here in Yemen, what
1:19:50
we do to these Shia groups in Iraq and Syria, it doesn't
1:19:54
really manifest in pain in Iran.
1:19:59
Adam Curry: Yeah, that just so that that goes right along with
1:20:03
what Mike Johnson just said, it's not really doing anything
1:20:06
to Iran. We're just spending money. And getting everybody all
1:20:10
riled up. And I guess the thinking there is, hey, I'm a
1:20:13
war president. He better hurry up and someone's got to declare
1:20:17
war. How much longer can the can President Biden be authorizing
1:20:20
this stuff?
1:20:21
John C Dvorak: Before? The I think half of it's illegal
1:20:24
already? All of his work as a word. That's the idea is all
1:20:29
political idea that once you're got a war president, you gotta
1:20:32
keep them in? Oh, yeah. Don't
1:20:34
Adam Curry: change a warring team. Yeah, that no
1:20:37
John C Dvorak: one's buying that. I mean, they may have
1:20:42
bought it in the 50s. But now, this, I think I got one more.
1:20:45
Yeah, one
1:20:46
Unknown: more flying bombers halfway around the world to do
1:20:48
this. Obviously, there are their operational reasons for this.
1:20:51
They carry a tremendous amount of payload, they can fly
1:20:54
supersonically. But was there also a message being sent? This
1:20:57
is all about a message. So the message here is more important
1:21:00
than anything you've hit anything you destroyed any of
1:21:03
these shear groups that you killed? The B one bombers are
1:21:06
important, because, you know, they can fly under radar
1:21:09
coverage. And if you're going to hit inside Iran, you're going to
1:21:13
you're going to hit or inside of run with a B one Lancer. What
1:21:16
comes next? Well, I think what comes next is you're going to
1:21:19
see more passes in Iraq and Syria like we did last night,
1:21:23
you're going to see maybe more strikes on the coast of Yemen
1:21:26
here tonight, we hit the Capitol. I don't think we'll do
1:21:29
that. Again. I think we'll hit coastal battery sites. I think
1:21:32
this will go into next week for a few days into next week. And
1:21:36
then we'll see then we kind of wait, did Iran get the message?
1:21:40
How is Iran going to respond? How are these groups going to
1:21:43
respond? That's what's next, it'll be the same sort of
1:21:45
targets or the targeting change. Now you're gonna see the same
1:21:49
kinds of targets the same level of violence. And really, you're
1:21:52
going to see these bump there's a lot more bunkers. So these
1:21:55
these complexes that you know, if you think about doors or in,
1:22:01
in the East there in Syria, Abu Kamal, these are complexes that
1:22:05
have hundreds of bunkers within them. And so you know, you
1:22:09
there's a lot more targets you can hit there we hit 85. That's
1:22:12
really not very much. There's a lot more we can do here. Joe
1:22:15
Pacino, a retired US Army colonel, thank you very much.
1:22:18
Adam Curry: Retired. Do you still want to talk more war?
1:22:22
John C Dvorak: Wait, maybe this guy was put on the PBS NewsHour
1:22:26
as punishment? A lot of these guys don't like to do these
1:22:31
things. That's a good point. Okay, we get we need a
1:22:35
spokesperson to this. Yeah, you put him on? Because I've never
1:22:39
seen him before. And he's not bad. No, well, he's just kind of
1:22:43
give away the fact that he's getting he's got more
1:22:45
information than you think he should have.
1:22:47
Adam Curry: Unless you have to work for him. Doesn't sound like
1:22:50
such a cool dude to work for.
1:22:53
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe he'll straighten out. No, he does
1:22:56
sound like a good guy. He's not a manager.
1:22:59
Adam Curry: Can I switch to something else for a minute?
1:23:02
Because we're gonna lose people. We might as well play Africa and
1:23:05
China clips. You got Africa? No, no, no, I have. Have you ever
1:23:14
seen this guy? He does a YouTube channel. He used to be a tech
1:23:17
lead at Google. He's an Asian guy. And kind of like a know it
1:23:23
all kind of dude, but he was very popular YouTube. YouTuber.
1:23:27
Okay, and he laid out a Oh, should I say a hypothesis about
1:23:35
what's happening is how many tech? I think the big question I
1:23:39
keep hearing is all these tech layoffs. You know, even Jack
1:23:44
Dorsey laid off a whole bunch of people and it's been hundreds of
1:23:47
1000s in the past couple of years of technology. People have
1:23:51
been let go. Yeah. And I think as I was listening to Devorah
1:23:56
Horowitz unplugged. You know, this consensus is it's not like
1:23:59
there's some bad news coming, something else is going on. And
1:24:05
it's not necessarily that we oh, we're headed into some horrible
1:24:08
recession. And this guy had kind of an interesting thesis. I want
1:24:14
to share it because to me was like, Yeah, that makes a lot of
1:24:18
sense. And it it kind of started with Elon Musk, you want to hear
1:24:21
it.
1:24:23
Unknown: Of course, tech layoffs are surging over 25,000 rows
1:24:27
already cut just in the month of January, we saw PayPal cutting
1:24:30
9% of their worlds 2500 people gone Microsoft cut that 90 100
1:24:34
People from their gaming division unity cut 1800 people
1:24:37
that's 25% of their workforce, Amazon Twitch cuts 35% Discord
1:24:42
cut 17% And there's a whole string of other layoffs in the
1:24:45
tech industry here. We have a tech jobs chart here showing a
1:24:48
noticeable decline in tech roles according to indeed where jobs
1:24:52
and software it and information has just gone downhill coding
1:24:56
may just be debt. I mean, we're talking about So the fundamental
1:25:01
changes underway here coding is dead apps are dead. Now I've
1:25:05
missed this backdrop of tech layoffs. This comes at an
1:25:07
interesting time when so many YouTubers are quitting retiring
1:25:11
really rich. So there's this wealth gap between nine to five
1:25:16
employees and influencers, which is something I've talked about
1:25:19
before, where we have these two class of people, right? Half of
1:25:22
millennials are basically poor. They can't afford anything. And
1:25:26
they're stuck in these debt and nine to five jobs and the other
1:25:28
half. They're raking it in with Lamborghinis and Gucci and
1:25:31
Rolexes, living in these mansions traveling all the time.
1:25:34
And isn't that funny, we now have the social media trends
1:25:37
that watch me lose my job on tick tock tech workers are
1:25:41
filming their layoffs and sharing them on social media for
1:25:43
views. So what their nine to five jobs are burning down their
1:25:47
social media channels are thriving. And you see these
1:25:49
people finally waking up to that.
1:25:51
Adam Curry: And I think this may have something to do with the
1:25:53
extreme dissatisfaction of younger generation of workers
1:25:58
because it is that I'm seeing these trends a lot of the I'm
1:26:01
quitting YouTube is you know, just to get views like oh, I
1:26:04
didn't quit no all you begged me to stay. But there's a lot of
1:26:08
money has been made. And we even just saw recent, the Renewal by
1:26:11
Joe Rogan, although it's not quite the same as as his initial
1:26:16
deal. Same goes for color Daddy, you know, they're they're
1:26:22
upfront and revenue sharing deals. But I think people are
1:26:25
seeing this and then what used to be the big hero, a oh, we oh,
1:26:30
he's a ninja ninja coder. Remember that? Remember, we were
1:26:33
hiring ninjas ninja coder, and they were making 234 100 grand.
1:26:38
I mean, lots of money. And this guy says, you know, no, we've,
1:26:42
we've, we're done. We built it all.
1:26:44
Unknown: So here's what I think is happening. We essentially
1:26:46
reached a local maximum and technology where we invented
1:26:50
basically digital drugs, social media, where everybody is now
1:26:54
just addicted to this digital opioid. And they're just
1:26:57
vegetating in front of their screens, watching short videos,
1:27:00
Tik Tok videos, YouTube videos like this one. And nobody really
1:27:04
wants to do anything else. People are just totally content.
1:27:07
People don't need to buy anything. They don't need to
1:27:09
download new apps or websites. It's kind of like building
1:27:11
someone that TV and then asking them if they want anything more
1:27:15
from you. And the apps or websites or services, no, they
1:27:17
just want to watch their shows now. And so in the way content
1:27:21
became the new software where a lot of value creation shifted
1:27:24
from the tech stack to infrastructure of building that
1:27:26
first TV. Not that spilt. We don't need the builders for that
1:27:30
we just need someone to maintain this TV. And then value shifts
1:27:33
into the shows creation is kind of like the movie industry where
1:27:37
you have the sound engineers and the stage engineers and
1:27:40
production designers, they don't really get paid much but as the
1:27:43
show stars who get paid the most. And so similarly, at the
1:27:46
time when Twitch is laying off 35% of its staff, software
1:27:50
engineers, managers, college educated 95, folks, it's topstar
1:27:55
and streamer pokey main is leaving Twitch voluntarily. She
1:27:59
has not been laid off here, folks, with the rumors of her
1:28:01
finding and potentially $75 million deal. So it's just
1:28:04
funny. There's this divide where some people are leaving the
1:28:07
company because they're fired. And then some people are leaving
1:28:11
because they're they're retiring. Basically, they're
1:28:13
done. This
1:28:14
Adam Curry: rings true to me. Have there been any new exciting
1:28:18
app any new development? I mean, we have really nothing? I mean
1:28:23
AI? Really, Where's where's all the coders for that? I mean,
1:28:28
sure, buzz kill. There's, there's definitely a market for
1:28:32
them, but not, not for not for not the level that we had before
1:28:37
of, oh, we've got to build all this stuff out and you know,
1:28:40
once Instagram created their version of Tik Tok and Tik Tok
1:28:43
is tick tock. You know, this guy calls it the low opportunity
1:28:48
era. But still
1:28:49
Unknown: with all of this quizzing, whether voluntarily or
1:28:52
not, I think it reflects a low opportunity, low growth,
1:28:55
stagnant era that we're living through where there's just
1:28:58
nothing really exciting going on a lot of technology that should
1:29:02
have taken off like web three, the metaverse AI it didn't
1:29:05
really get too far. You know, AI may have some potential but it's
1:29:08
also the playground mostly a big tech companies that have the
1:29:11
data and GPUs to train on. Most normal people aren't going to be
1:29:14
doing that. The chat GPT store was kind of a buzz. It was just
1:29:18
wrappers on chat GPT, you've got Apple vision Pro, pretty
1:29:22
expensive, limited market. And that should be clear by now apps
1:29:26
and websites are long dead, people stopped using those as
1:29:29
soon as they began vegetating on short form videos. And so with
1:29:33
everybody vegetating on digital drugs, the game industry is also
1:29:36
suffering because it simply cost too much per minute of
1:29:39
entertainment. And we can see us consumer spending on gaming
1:29:42
here, which is down 14.5% In the past three years, and it's
1:29:46
basically a stagnant industry in an area where there continues to
1:29:50
be inflation and rising costs, so a lot of companies are seeing
1:29:53
weak consumer demand. Other meanwhile, YouTube ad sales
1:29:56
soared $9.2 billion in a blowout. quarter as they're
1:30:01
firmly back in growth mode after a quiet year last year.
1:30:05
Adam Curry: I don't know. To me it sounds sounds very plausible
1:30:08
that this is just they're done building. We got nothing. We got
1:30:12
no other ideas except quantum computing, but that's still on
1:30:15
the horizon that's still on the horizon.
1:30:21
John C Dvorak: It's an interesting hypothesis. I can't
1:30:27
argue with it. I mean, there are people that I've known this was
1:30:30
always been the case in high tech. I remember going back into
1:30:34
the late 70s When you had when you first had the s 100. Bus
1:30:39
come out.
1:30:40
Adam Curry: Oh, the s 100. Boss. Remember those days people? I
1:30:44
don't know. What was the s 100. Boss? I have no idea what that
1:30:48
is.
1:30:49
John C Dvorak: It was a bus, you know, a backplane that had 100
1:30:54
pins on it. And it was called the s 100. Bus and it was
1:30:57
developed. I think the Altair is the first one that they
1:31:01
developed a kind of a quasi version, they got formalized and
1:31:04
became a standard that wasn't the artist play until the IBM PC
1:31:08
came along with its own bus
1:31:09
Adam Curry: Rs 232. Is that what replaced it? Rs
1:31:12
John C Dvorak: 232 is a is an interface. Okay,
1:31:15
Adam Curry: bro, does not I don't know what you're talking
1:31:17
about. I don't either. I'm just throwing stuff out.
1:31:19
John C Dvorak: So there was this guy. There was the early days of
1:31:25
micro computing, which is what it was called. There was all
1:31:30
these graphic guys had come along. And anyway, there was a
1:31:32
guy, one guy who came out with a thing called a Hercules card. It
1:31:37
was Herky. I think there may have even been around here,
1:31:39
Hercules, maybe. But he Hercules. It made this graphics
1:31:43
card that became kind of a quasi standard because it was so good.
1:31:47
The guy made a shit ton of money. I mean, not by today's
1:31:50
standards, but by the standards back then. Yeah, a shit ton of
1:31:54
money and he as soon as he cashed out he just took his put
1:32:00
on some sandals and moved to Mexico and he never was heard
1:32:03
from again. And I knew that guy there was just uh yeah, I'm
1:32:07
rich. I'm out of here on
1:32:08
Adam Curry: smart man he didn't he didn't was not a serial
1:32:10
entrepreneur didn't didn't go no fall for that scam, like how to
1:32:14
spend your I'll use my own money, dumbest thing I've ever
1:32:17
John C Dvorak: done, I use my own money to make more money. So
1:32:22
this type of personality in tech is not an unusual character that
1:32:27
would just develop somebody making enough money to get more
1:32:30
than get by. But you know, you think you got a lot of money.
1:32:33
And you don't I mean, you do for like a year or two. And then
1:32:37
they bail out and they go away. And so maybe there is an element
1:32:40
of that going on. There's one
1:32:42
Adam Curry: other thing that he said, which is which I think is
1:32:45
something that is very DH unplugged. And it all started
1:32:49
with Elon and I think he has a point here.
1:32:51
Unknown: I think it was really Elon Musk, who kicked off all of
1:32:53
the firings when he fired 80% of Twitter's workforce, saving the
1:32:57
company massive amounts of money, cutting bloat, and so a
1:33:00
lot of other tech CEOs probably saw that too and realize they
1:33:04
wanted to cut through all of the management below as well. So
1:33:07
Instagram here is also announcing they're cutting a
1:33:09
level of management. The TPM role or technical program
1:33:13
manager is essentially been eliminated by Instagram and what
1:33:16
Mark Zuckerberg called the year of efficiency aimed at removing
1:33:20
layers of management. The result was 1000s of layoffs last year
1:33:23
and Reduction and Management ranks and this effect was
1:33:25
probably also compounded by over hiring during the pandemic, as
1:33:29
well as hopes that AI can possibly help improve some of
1:33:32
the efficiency of current workers. Although general
1:33:34
consensus seems that AI is not behind the current wave of
1:33:38
layoffs. That is coming later on. It's another potential
1:33:42
factor behind tech layoffs is section 174, a new tax bill that
1:33:46
came into effect last year, which essentially made software
1:33:48
engineering salaries, non deductible in the first year,
1:33:52
you have to amortize that cost over five years with only 10%
1:33:56
deductible in the first years. The industry is changing. These
1:34:00
days. Everybody entered dog is coding immigrants are coding
1:34:04
fresh college grads are coding check up, hazing is becoming an
1:34:08
oversaturated field where employers are realizing the code
1:34:11
base pay you 300 to 500k and free cafeteria food for two
1:34:16
hours of work a day.
1:34:17
Adam Curry: So that's the r&d tax credit that that that Joe
1:34:21
Biden overrode that with an executive order. Yeah. So know
1:34:27
John C Dvorak: that I didn't know. I didn't know either. See,
1:34:29
that becomes a big deal. You have to change everything. And
1:34:33
then because it changes the way you do the books, and which
1:34:36
reminds me since you brought up you said Zuckerberg was
1:34:38
mentioned I should mention this. Can you check the price of meta
1:34:43
stock?
1:34:44
Adam Curry: I think it's a it's probably way beyond the $400
1:34:49
that I was willing to bet we would never reach.
1:34:53
John C Dvorak: You were willing to bet you made a $500 bet. Oh,
1:34:56
I
1:34:56
Adam Curry: did. I thought you didn't take it. No, I
1:34:59
John C Dvorak: didn't take the five $5,000 Bet you wanted to
1:35:01
make.
1:35:03
Unknown: Okay. Well, here's
1:35:05
John C Dvorak: the clip calling names. And
1:35:07
Adam Curry: we've got a whole panel of douchebags who are
1:35:09
going to narc on you're constantly they're dead. Not
1:35:13
that it's like Facebook. How's that $400 stock doing?
1:35:18
Unknown: Let's get into you wait, you wait,
1:35:20
Adam Curry: I will bet you $500 Right now that Facebook will
1:35:24
never get back to $400. And unless they do some, you know,
1:35:29
unless they died the bets on him, okay, and that was the same
1:35:33
flow because somebody record this with the same float you're
1:35:36
not allowed you're not allowed to manipulate by changing the
1:35:39
float with a split or reverse.
1:35:40
John C Dvorak: There's never this bull crap did float is
1:35:43
never the same. There'll be some issuances. There'll be some
1:35:46
buybacks
1:35:48
Adam Curry: where there was a split or you're
1:35:51
John C Dvorak: adding a bunch of disclaimers. You don't want to
1:35:54
do the bad Oh
1:35:55
Adam Curry: I've done $5,000 5000 $5,000 Now I say I
1:36:03
say
1:36:04
John C Dvorak: I'll do the 500 but the reason I want you to
1:36:07
5000 because you can't afford it I never get paid boys coin made
1:36:14
Adam Curry: point made you're afraid you're afraid I have no
1:36:17
fear. So yes, I was alerted to this. I honestly did not
1:36:24
remember the way that went down that it's was about two years
1:36:29
and four months ago episode 1492 And after having hearing that
1:36:36
because of course people sent that to me. I apologize. I was
1:36:42
not only I defaulted to my carnal mind, I'm ashamed and
1:36:47
embarrassed because I called you names and I really I repented
1:36:51
for this I am very sorry and I want to thank you for having
1:36:54
grace on me for not taking my $5,000 and I will gladly pay you
1:36:59
the 500 from the bet and I'm sorry
1:37:04
John C Dvorak: well thank you very much for being sorry the
1:37:08
$5,000 Bet you're right you should thank me for not taking
1:37:14
the bet I but I in there I did say you wouldn't pay it because
1:37:18
you're not going to pay 5000 I bet nobody does. And that's my
1:37:22
tip to people out there who want to bet when people when somebody
1:37:25
makes an outrageous but don't do it because you're going to just
1:37:28
going to cause friction if I even get the $500 I'll be
1:37:32
surprised but I will take it if I it will go to a charity.
1:37:37
Adam Curry: Can I send it to you in Bitcoin? Come on,
1:37:41
John C Dvorak: I don't have a wallet
1:37:43
Adam Curry: count. I'll set you up with a wallet. You never
1:37:45
know. I mean it's like kind of doubling down for you.
1:37:50
John C Dvorak: If you really have cash,
1:37:52
Adam Curry: I'll send it I'll send a
1:37:53
John C Dvorak: pallet of dollars. But now we could.
1:37:57
Adam Curry: I am sorry. That was very embarrassing. I heard that
1:38:00
and I was unhinged and I said I defaulted to my my defaulted to
1:38:05
my carnal mind. It was not good. That's I don't like what I heard
1:38:09
there.
1:38:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so I will if you want I'll put the bed in
1:38:18
abeyance if you want to do double or nothing for Facebook
1:38:20
hitting 1000 No,
1:38:22
Adam Curry: I'm done. I've I will. I'll take my lashes. I'll
1:38:26
take my lashes. I'm not gonna go there. No, no, I'm done. I've
1:38:30
never been good with stocks. I mean, I'm the guy that sold all
1:38:33
my bitcoin at $900 thinking this is dynamite.
1:38:38
John C Dvorak: Hey, you so I've said it before. And I'll say it
1:38:42
again talking about this on dish and like, if I had bought, say
1:38:46
$200 with a Bitcoin at 25 cents. Yeah. The likelihood of me
1:38:52
keeping it past $400 Bitcoin is probably nil. The best the only
1:38:58
way you can do that is you buy it for 25 cents and then somehow
1:39:01
lose track of it. And then suddenly, years and years later
1:39:06
find the key to the kingdom. You old wallet that's kind
1:39:10
Adam Curry: of that's kind of what happened. But it gets worse
1:39:14
the story is actually worse. Because I took the money from
1:39:19
the Bitcoin I sold and I de traded it
1:39:24
John C Dvorak: Wow. Go into commodities while you're at it.
1:39:29
Alright, since
1:39:29
Adam Curry: since we're doing old clips, I want to play
1:39:32
something that just aired and I want to play a classic no agenda
1:39:36
clip. This showed up on Tucker Carlson. Some guy named Callie
1:39:42
Callie Ed, I think his name is and he he's as like a healthy
1:39:47
you know, he does. He's a healthy medicine guy. What do
1:39:50
they call it these days that there's a term for to keep for
1:39:53
wellness, a function of functional medicine doctor, and
1:39:56
I've ever heard this functional medicine doctor and he promotes
1:39:59
you know Everything except pharmaceuticals. And he's on
1:40:02
with Tucker. And he brings out a This clip was sent to me by many
1:40:06
people, usually for the same reason. He says, Oh, listen to
1:40:11
the I cut it down a little piece here. But you're
1:40:13
Unknown: saying that pharma buys TV spots, not to convince people
1:40:18
to ask for specific drugs from their physicians but to subvert
1:40:22
the news business.
1:40:23
Adam Curry: This is a this is an open secret working for Pharma.
1:40:26
I'd never thought of that as this is an open secret. The kind
1:40:29
of silly ads you see between the news breaks. The points of that
1:40:34
is not it's largely to impact the customer. But but the
1:40:38
farmers already got that they've already bought off the doctors.
1:40:41
They're good on that. No, this is an open secret. The news ad
1:40:46
spending from pharma is a public relation lobbying tactic,
1:40:50
essentially to buy off the news. The news is a referee. They're
1:40:55
not investigating Pharma. But I've noticed that the news has
1:40:59
become the news has become basically a referee, that you
1:41:03
are a terrible anti science Luddite for asking why, you
1:41:09
know, the shots that we require our kids to get that
1:41:12
fundamentally by their own advertising, change the immune
1:41:17
system of that child for life, why it's gone from 20 to 70. Do
1:41:20
even ask that question, the news referees that calls you anti
1:41:24
science when the two largest vaccine makers in the country
1:41:27
are literally criminal enterprises. GlaxoSmithKline and
1:41:30
Merck, in the past five years has settled two of the largest
1:41:34
criminal penalties in American corporate history for bribing
1:41:37
and misleading bribing doctors and misleading creating
1:41:40
misleading research, who are the two largest vaccine makers? So
1:41:43
you literally have the media playing referee, you can't even
1:41:46
ask a question. So this was a big revelation for Tucker
1:41:49
Carlson. And he really
1:41:51
John C Dvorak: what we've been talking about for how many years
1:41:54
Well, I
1:41:54
Adam Curry: went into barricade I went, I went into being it.io.
1:41:59
And which there's a new version coming, by the way, which will
1:42:02
be killer. And I was able to go back. I mean, we had other
1:42:06
mentions of advertising, but this was the most sinks, no
1:42:10
agenda, Episode 343. From September 29 2011. There we go.
1:42:18
Let's go back and see what we saw. What
1:42:20
John C Dvorak: choice does he have? He's running a commercial
1:42:23
show that has sponsors on a network that relies like
1:42:26
everyone else on drug advertising. What's he supposed
1:42:29
to do? He take the donation model and make less money. I
1:42:34
mean, I don't know what you expect the guy to do. He has no
1:42:36
choice in the matter. He is like everybody else in the media.
1:42:40
Everything that people watch out there is bought and paid for by
1:42:43
big pharma, Big Pharma as the right now probably one of the
1:42:46
biggest advertisers, they're making so much money on on some
1:42:49
of these sketchy drugs. That, you know, you can't say what?
1:42:53
And then you have the vested interests of the war on drugs.
1:42:56
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it's important for people to know
1:42:57
because Jon Stewart does come across as the guy Yeah, and but
1:43:03
he's not he too, is beholden to the pharmaceutical industry in
1:43:07
this case, and it's a six minute clips, I'm not gonna play it,
1:43:10
but there's a link to the actual video. There you go.
1:43:14
John C Dvorak: 13 years, 13 years, and it was a thing, and
1:43:19
it's always been a thing with us. Yep. Yep. And that has to be
1:43:24
able to want it. And we always mentioned that we're one of the
1:43:26
two countries in the world that allow pharmaceuticals to add
1:43:29
prescription to advertise prescription drugs, or IV.
1:43:33
They've always advertised aspirin.
1:43:36
Adam Curry: But but they control they control all yes, but they
1:43:39
get
1:43:39
John C Dvorak: the mechanism mechanism of control. So they
1:43:41
own the media. The media has been been co opted, captured.
1:43:46
Remember the capture they've been captured by big pharma so
1:43:49
they can't say anything now.
1:43:51
Adam Curry: It is what this is news.
1:43:54
John C Dvorak: What's
1:43:55
Adam Curry: going on in Canada right now. I, I pray this does
1:44:01
not come to the United States. What what is happening there.
1:44:05
This is about made, which is just a I love the acronym made
1:44:09
because you think of a me, I'm coming in here, I'm going to
1:44:12
sweep around and I'm going to kill you, which is medically
1:44:15
assisted assistance in dying. And the Canada has put a pause
1:44:22
on this. And this is very disappointing. To the to the to
1:44:27
the industry to the death industry. In Canada,
1:44:30
Unknown: the federal government is defending its decision to
1:44:33
delay the expansion of medically assisted death to include those
1:44:36
suffering from mental illness. It's the second time they've
1:44:39
press pause on the legislation. James Cameron is a member of the
1:44:43
Board of Directors for the advocacy group dying with
1:44:45
dignity and he joins me now James Collins, good to speak
1:44:48
with
1:44:48
Adam Curry: you get ready for this Google.
1:44:49
Unknown: So your organization says the work has been done to
1:44:52
move forward. Now. How do we reconcile that with the reports
1:44:55
and the statements from various governments saying Canada is
1:44:58
just not ready to do this real
1:44:59
life? You have to go back and look at what was said at the
1:45:02
time that the postponement, the sunset clause was extended last
1:45:07
year. And Minister lametti was very clear as to what the
1:45:10
markers were there needed to be the consideration of the report
1:45:14
of the expert panel, there needed to be an educational
1:45:18
program developed so that clinicians could be prepared for
1:45:22
this. It needed to be better data collection, and needed to
1:45:26
the regulators across the country needed to have time to
1:45:30
prepare regulations and guidelines. And all of those
1:45:35
markers have been met. So there are obviously some people in
1:45:39
this country who do believe that the system isn't ready. But many
1:45:45
more, those who are actually engaged, the Dan is doing
1:45:50
assessments and delivering made, testified before the committee
1:45:56
that they were ready and ready. personally disappointed that the
1:46:03
government now intends to, I want to go down the road for
1:46:08
some indefinite period of time. I don't know how long that is.
1:46:11
But I'm more disappointed for the relatively few Canadians who
1:46:16
meet the very strict criteria and were hoping and waiting for
1:46:21
the day to die and they'd be able to apply for med for made
1:46:25
and if they were successful, to receive that service.
1:46:32
Adam Curry: It's a service it's a service. And what this was
1:46:35
about was they didn't want to include mental disorders. People
1:46:41
want to die because they are depressed. I mean, that's,
1:46:45
that's like one of the hallmarks of depression. And this guy
1:46:49
wants to kill people over it's It's baffling to me.
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: It was kind of baffling about the whole thing
1:46:58
is that the Canadians have got this MA MA ID deal and I would
1:47:04
find somebody then they put them to I don't know what they do to
1:47:07
him but they die. Yeah. And you know, everybody's happy about
1:47:11
it. In the United States where we have executioner's row you
1:47:15
can't put anyone to death because all you know that this
1:47:18
doesn't work that doesn't work we can't get any more of this
1:47:21
drug. I mean, how can the Canadian so casually put the
1:47:25
normal citizens to death and we can't put anyone criminals How
1:47:30
does that work? Oh,
1:47:31
Adam Curry: I think we both had a clip about that about that
1:47:34
we're gonna suffocate nitrogen yes suffocate some guy.
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: That was the latest one Yeah, I think
1:47:40
adequate because it shows inheritance
1:47:42
Unknown: Alabama is set to execute a criminal with nitrogen
1:47:45
gas tomorrow, a method never used before. The US Supreme
1:47:49
Court just declined to block the state. The man in question
1:47:53
survived a different method of capital punishment two years
1:47:56
ago. I'm
1:47:57
Adam Curry: always surprised like oh don't kill him. That's
1:48:01
cruel. You can't quit but killing babies not as cool
1:48:04
that's all good let's go protest for that. I'm always I'm always
1:48:07
baffled by our attitude towards death in the United States
1:48:10
John C Dvorak: well I met baffled by the Republican and
1:48:13
Democrat schism regarding this the Democrats are okay with
1:48:18
killing babies and but they're not okay with death row. Oh, no,
1:48:22
we can't have the death penalty. Yeah, that's what I'm saying
1:48:24
Republicans are just the opposite they're not killing
1:48:28
killing babies will kill these bastards in jail. So I mean,
1:48:33
it's just like the both sides seem to have like a mitt, you
1:48:36
know, maybe you should switch some views back and forth. I'm
1:48:40
only person I kind of think is not a hypocrite is when it
1:48:43
doesn't want to kill babies or either won't kill everybody.
1:48:47
Yeah,
1:48:47
Adam Curry: if we're gonna kill everybody, I want the primetime
1:48:51
rights. I've said this for many years. Yeah, this is your goal
1:48:54
in life. This will be my exit strategy I want to produce
1:48:58
today.
1:48:58
John C Dvorak: We've got to be you'd be worth billions
1:49:01
billions,
1:49:02
Adam Curry: I'd be able to pay off that $500 bet in a
1:49:05
heartbeat. heartbeat.
1:49:08
John C Dvorak: Never pay out the $5,000 bet that's for sure. I
1:49:11
can do the three by three or we can go to the Iranian Professor
1:49:15
which I could also push off. Well,
1:49:17
Adam Curry: why don't I do two quick fun climate change clips.
1:49:23
And then and then we can do the three by three. How does that
1:49:25
sound? Alright, alright. So the first one is very underreported.
1:49:31
And it is climate change related but the farmers in Europe are on
1:49:37
the move. Everywhere. All countries, they're not
1:49:41
John C Dvorak: very well covered by the all
1:49:44
Unknown: tractors clogged the Luxembourg square and Brussels
1:49:46
Thursday during an EU summit. Their goal deliver their message
1:49:49
of less bureaucracy and better prices. A movement that started
1:49:53
several weeks ago in the south of France has not erupted across
1:49:55
Europe, with farmers not blocking roads in Portugal,
1:49:58
Belgium, Germany. Poland, Romania, Italy and Spain and in
1:50:03
France Dangar has moved from the provinces to Paris. Earlier this
1:50:06
week, farmers blocked major arteries into Paris with their
1:50:09
tractors. And yesterday, almost 80 people were arrested outside
1:50:12
the international food market to dish out the Paris at farmers to
1:50:15
send it on the area and were met by armored vehicles. Their anger
1:50:19
is centered around the need to make more money. They generally
1:50:21
say they need less red tape, less environmental restrictions
1:50:25
and protection from cheap foreign imports. France has
1:50:27
proposed giving livestock farmers 150 million euros per
1:50:30
year to ease their concerns. The EU Commission has responded by
1:50:34
suggesting the limit Ukrainian imports of sugar, poultry and
1:50:37
eggs. This will also ease restrictions on the use of land
1:50:40
left fallow for environmental reasons. But the plans still
1:50:43
need to be approved by the 27 country member bloc in the
1:50:46
European Parliament. By
1:50:48
Adam Curry: the way, not a mainstream clip. You cannot get
1:50:50
a mainstream clip that overviews all of these protests on all of
1:50:54
these roads, no all there's
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: nothing we're not covering it. And it's and
1:50:58
especially with the farmers where they have the armored
1:51:01
tanks and the tractors in one side. It's unbelievable. And
1:51:05
this is going on all over the place. And a lot of it does have
1:51:08
to do with this Ukraine war because they you just heard a
1:51:10
little clip.
1:51:12
Adam Curry: The older Ukraine, car
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: Guile owns Ukraine farms, and so let's move
1:51:16
to move them into Europe. Oh,
1:51:18
Adam Curry: you know what, and I wondered this the last climate
1:51:20
change clip but I got a PDF from one of our producers. And it's,
1:51:28
you know, opened it up here. This is celebrating 10 years in
1:51:33
Ukraine 10th anniversary of bowing in Ukraine a decade of
1:51:37
growth. I did not know this, in January 2014. That's the year of
1:51:44
the Maidan push that's when the United States primarily took
1:51:47
over the entire country. The very first engineers walked into
1:51:51
the brand new Boeing Engineering and Technology Center in Kyiv,
1:51:55
Ukraine a decade later, Kyiv is home to almost 1200 engineers.
1:52:01
Together they support engineering for almost all
1:52:03
Boeing's commercial platforms. Initially, the site start
1:52:08
operations no more than 50 engineers focusing on
1:52:10
engineering products related to the second generation 737 and
1:52:13
the Boeing 757. What are the chances that some of these some
1:52:19
of these things are coming out of Ukraine? And 10 years 10
1:52:23
years of Boeing and Ukraine? Did you know this?
1:52:26
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't until you just said it right
1:52:28
now. I didn't know it.
1:52:30
Unknown: I mean, that's really the cause. Why are
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: we sending them any jets? Why don't they just
1:52:34
make some f 30 fives right there in Ukraine. Boeing,
1:52:38
Adam Curry: they do the seven sevens, the triple seven triple
1:52:41
7x, the 737 that they do the 787 program, as well as payload
1:52:46
designed for 737 and triple seven and the Eco demonstrator,
1:52:50
whatever. The local Boeing team made the courageous decision to
1:52:53
continue their work during the war. Boeing global is providing
1:52:57
unwavering support ensuring the safety. I mean, come on. It's
1:53:02
like that's the last thing you'd expect that Boeing has been
1:53:04
there for. They're celebrating 10 years. We're not being told
1:53:09
anything. This is not news that you're watching people stop it
1:53:13
and get off social media. Of
1:53:15
John C Dvorak: course a day taken bomb the ant and off
1:53:17
plant. Yeah, which makes a better jet and Boeing
1:53:22
Adam Curry: is got more engines. Alright, here's, here's my final
1:53:29
climate change clip is just a, it's a classic because he brings
1:53:33
back some super tropes that we love. It's Christiane Amanpour,
1:53:38
the globalist on CNN International with her fellow
1:53:43
globalist Al Gore.
1:53:44
Unknown: So I just want to ask you, you know, James Hansen, the
1:53:47
NASA expert, who was one of the first on climate warnings, has
1:53:52
warned that, you know, unless there's some massively radical
1:53:55
thing to happen very soon, the magic 1.5 degrees number will,
1:54:01
you know, will be surpassed? And there seems to be a struggle
1:54:05
over the experts over that. Where do you come down on that?
1:54:09
Adam Curry: I like how she talks about the magic 1.5 number.
1:54:12
That's kind of a setup Matt's magic number. Yeah.
1:54:15
John C Dvorak: Which is exactly right. Yeah. Right. Language.
1:54:18
Adam Curry: magic number. Well, I
1:54:19
Unknown: have the deepest respect for Jim Hanson. And also
1:54:22
for his colleagues who have a slightly different view. I agree
1:54:26
on most things, you know, half of Oh, calendar days and 2023
1:54:31
were actually above 1.5. And in November, there were two days
1:54:36
above a two degree Oh, Narcan above the pre industrial
1:54:40
temperature. So yes, we were running out of time to solve
1:54:45
this in time. But and we're running some unacceptably high
1:54:50
risks with large global systems that are important for the
1:54:55
flourishing of humanity that are now
1:54:59
Adam Curry: another left Oh,
1:55:00
Unknown: hey allies. So the sooner the better. The issue
1:55:04
you're referring to is over how sensitive the climate is to more
1:55:09
and more greenhouse gas pollution. And now, ultimately,
1:55:13
they agree on far more than they disagree. They're all saying the
1:55:17
same thing. We got to switch away from fossil fuels as
1:55:20
quickly as possible and stop using the sky as an open sewer.
1:55:24
That's the basic problem. He's back to the sky as an open sewer
1:55:27
or putting 162 million tons up there every day. And the
1:55:31
accumulated amount it stays on average each molecule for about
1:55:35
100 years, and the accumulated amount today, Christiane is
1:55:39
trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 750,000.
1:55:46
Hiroshima class Oppenheimer era, atomic bombs exploding on the
1:55:50
Earth every single day,
1:55:52
Adam Curry: he's expanded into Oppenheimer era. This is
1:55:54
beautiful owl.
1:55:56
Unknown: I love it. Well, he
1:55:58
John C Dvorak: gets a movie reference in Yeah. Oh, yeah. So
1:56:01
for Dummies out there who don't know anything about Hiroshima
1:56:05
via Hiroshima, the old bomb and all the rest of it. We have to
1:56:09
bring in the movie reference so you dummies can understand what
1:56:12
I'm trying to talk about here. Nobody's listening to me.
1:56:19
Adam Curry: 750,000 Hiroshima Oppenheimer era bombs a day. I
1:56:25
want that on a t shirt.
1:56:28
Unknown: It's beautiful. Al Gore, Al Gore.
1:56:33
John C Dvorak: God love them.
1:56:33
Adam Curry: Hey, all we need is a price on carbon. Once we get
1:56:36
that price on carbon, we're good to go.
1:56:38
John C Dvorak: Then everybody can shut up.
1:56:40
Adam Curry: Did I? Did I tell you do we talk about the fact
1:56:42
that the IRS has, has had they've created some rules,
1:56:50
they've stopped a lot of them. But if you have a company, it
1:56:55
could also just be an LLC. If you do something that creates
1:56:59
carbon credits, you can sell those. So you don't have to be
1:57:03
you know, you don't have to be a big corporation. You can be a
1:57:06
small LLC. And you can I'm going to plant some trees that we've
1:57:10
talked about this strategy before. Yeah, I'd like 10 years
1:57:13
ago. Yeah. But but now they've they've they are allowing it
1:57:16
that you can sell your your energy tax credits to any other
1:57:22
company. Yeah,
1:57:23
John C Dvorak: they're trying to list a mechanism
1:57:26
Adam Curry: that they want. I'm sure that they'll have some
1:57:28
exchange. I don't know. But but there's this this is from the
1:57:32
tax guys who are telling me this.
1:57:34
John C Dvorak: And this is all it might be on the bush but that
1:57:36
doesn't mean you can do it.
1:57:39
Adam Curry: Well, it's it says it right there and I'd have to
1:57:43
look it up because it was a couple of shows ago I guess we
1:57:45
didn't talk about it. But yeah, this is part of the inflation
1:57:48
Reduction Act which is you know, you get half of half of anything
1:57:52
that you that you do you get tax credit for. So if you just buy a
1:57:57
car like an Eevee you don't really have to you don't have to
1:57:59
use the Eevee you can write off half of it in tax credits. Don't
1:58:05
even have to drive it it says it
1:58:13
I don't think inflation is going to come down anytime soon. I
1:58:16
think we're in for are they talking about? Oh, we'll be
1:58:21
cutting interest rates. Oh, now it'd be March oh, maybe it may I
1:58:24
don't think it's going to happen at all.
1:58:26
John C Dvorak: I don't think they should be cutting them now.
1:58:28
They should be raising the economy's going the way Biden
1:58:30
claims which is watching Welker on that show oh my god, you
1:58:36
know, the things are so going so well. We got no interest, no
1:58:39
inflation and no unemployment. Everything's the best economy
1:58:42
ever. I don't understand why that people don't see this and
1:58:45
vote for Joe
1:58:48
Adam Curry: I got an angry message about our millennial Gen
1:58:54
Z. Oh, there's so many so many beautiful emails we received
1:58:57
from
1:58:57
John C Dvorak: tons of good mail for the Gen Z's like to write
1:59:01
Yes,
1:59:01
Adam Curry: they are very long and they and some of them love
1:59:04
their job and you know, they they they just grind away and
1:59:08
the things that they were hoping they would
1:59:10
Unknown: they would do love my job and I love what I do.
1:59:14
Adam Curry: The things they were hoping to get into now that you
1:59:16
know they're just doing it as a hobby and they have the bought
1:59:19
homes and they don't live in cities and and they watch Little
1:59:23
House on the Prairie. But, but I got I got this one from this
1:59:31
one. One person who was like it was you know, boots on the
1:59:36
ground how bad the job market actually is. I work construction
1:59:41
had to leave the job. My boss was violently attacked my mother
1:59:44
I got a job as a cashier. My boss ghosted me after I was
1:59:48
hospitalized with like, just horrible story. And so I write
1:59:51
back and I say, Well, you know, that's that's not really much. I
1:59:55
mean, you've had some bad breaks, but it's not like that
1:59:57
doesn't happen to lots of people. and I get the message
2:00:00
back. You and John are a couple of old pussies. You would have
2:00:04
hung yourself a long time ago in my shoes. Okay, well that kind
2:00:09
of ended that conversation.
2:00:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you got the wrong guy in dialogue.
2:00:14
Adam Curry: That's right all right let's send everybody now
2:00:16
it's time for a three by three it's been around and by Jesse de
2:00:21
air we are hearing stories from ABC CBS the never ending never
2:00:29
ending three by three which means we have a three by three
2:00:31
and a plus and we're going to see just how program the news is
2:00:35
of course this flows through to your social media. It's all the
2:00:38
clips you see Megyn Kelly will get all upset about it and
2:00:41
remember code bond Gino at checkout
2:00:46
John C Dvorak: store with Mary Bruce at ABC. Oh nice
2:00:50
Unknown: night the powerful retaliation promised unleashing
2:00:53
a major Counter Strike on Iran backed militants in Iraq and
2:00:57
Syria, a direct response to the drone attack that killed three
2:01:01
American soldiers and injured more than 40 on a remote US base
2:01:05
in Jordan, the US saying the airstrikes began at 4pm Hitting
2:01:09
85 targets in seven locations inside Iraq and Syria, including
2:01:14
command and control operation centers and intelligence hubs,
2:01:18
taking out rockets missiles and attack drones belonging to
2:01:21
militia groups. And there are Iranian sponsors who facilitated
2:01:24
attacks against US and coalition forces. The US dropping more
2:01:29
than 125 precision munitions from multiple aircraft,
2:01:33
including b one bombers that flew from the US President Biden
2:01:37
tonight saying this is the first wave of a response that will
2:01:41
continue at times and places of our choosing. And warning the
2:01:45
United States does not seek conflict in the Middle East or
2:01:48
anywhere else in the world. But let all those who might seek to
2:01:52
do us harm. Know this. If you harm an American, we will
2:01:57
respond. Notably, none of today's strikes hit Iran
2:02:00
directly. The President remains concerned not wanting to start a
2:02:05
wider war. Just hours before a powerful reminder of the weight
2:02:09
of these decisions. The President performing one of his
2:02:12
most solemn duties as commander in chief witnessing the
2:02:16
dignified transfer of the three service members killed in
2:02:19
Jordan, one by one their flag draped cases carefully carried
2:02:24
across the tarmac. The President placing his hand over his heart
2:02:28
alongside the First Lady and defense secretary Austen
2:02:32
honoring the Fallen you know
2:02:34
Adam Curry: what gets me about this? It's like if you hurt an
2:02:38
American, we're going to come and get you with our b one
2:02:41
bombers. How about the fentanyl? We all recognize where it comes
2:02:44
from? How about Gonzalo Lyra? Now the guy who would Ukrainians
2:02:50
kills him? It's so disingenuous. Yes. Because
2:02:54
John C Dvorak: you're right. The whole thing is that facade is
2:02:56
bullcrap. And by the way, don't most of these ceremonies when
2:03:00
these when do when they come over a drape and right out of
2:03:02
the thing they have the families are there. They didn't have I
2:03:06
remember the families there because I remembered the time
2:03:08
during it. They didn't have families there. No, it was just
2:03:12
Biden and red flag, the phony Lloyd off the flag and and the
2:03:19
wife. But you remember that because usually the families
2:03:23
that are because I remember that one time there's a bunch of
2:03:25
people that came over and Hillary was the Secretary of
2:03:28
State and, and a woman I think we had a clip of it the woman
2:03:30
who was she said Hillary's so cold it was like it was like
2:03:33
hugging a lizard. You know, she went on and on about it.
2:03:38
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. I remember that. It's
2:03:41
John C Dvorak: like, where's the families? Ah, which brings me I
2:03:45
always even bring that up is because you brought up yes made
2:03:48
whole thing may be AI. I'm only it's I hate to theater.
2:03:54
Adam Curry: I hate to think. And you of course, if there's a
2:03:57
family that that is grieving over their service folk, then
2:04:03
that's horrible. But if they weren't even there, that doesn't
2:04:06
make it. We have we have military people. They'll tell me
2:04:10
what's going on. You know? Isn't the family by definition flown
2:04:15
in for this?
2:04:16
John C Dvorak: I always thought they were I don't know. I mean,
2:04:18
most of the time I've seen this event, which they don't like to
2:04:21
show anymore. They stopped doing it after the Vietnam War. But
2:04:23
they did it this time as a photo op for Biden, obviously. Yeah.
2:04:28
Even though he has such a look on his face. They can't use the
2:04:30
photo op for anything. Just like he's he has a grimace on his
2:04:35
face. Like he doesn't like being there or something. It was very
2:04:39
Adam Curry: Wow, it's
2:04:40
John C Dvorak: very well let's go back to the three by three
2:04:44
and let's move to NBC with Peter Alexander. Oh,
2:04:47
Adam Curry: I hope we have a launch sound.
2:04:50
Unknown: The American retaliatory strikes have begun
2:04:53
US Central Command saying late this evening, US forces began
2:04:56
striking more than 85 targets in Iraq and Syria. Syria using
2:05:01
numerous aircraft including long range bombers flown from the US
2:05:05
the targets Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Quds Force
2:05:08
and affiliated militia groups hitting their command and
2:05:11
control operations centers and intelligence centers, rockets
2:05:15
and missiles and unmanned air vehicle storage among other
2:05:19
sites. President Biden tonight saying our response began today
2:05:23
he will continue at times and places of our choosing, adding
2:05:26
let all those who might seek to do us harm know this, if you
2:05:30
harm an American, we will respond to us strikes common
2:05:34
response to that deadly drone attack by Iranian backed
2:05:37
militias that struck tower 22, a desert outpost in Jordan,
2:05:41
killing three US service members that attack among more than 160
2:05:46
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I gotta stop this. Have you in any of
2:05:49
these reports or any report? Have you heard the names of
2:05:52
these three service members? Yeah, you have heard the names?
2:05:57
Yeah,
2:05:57
John C Dvorak: yeah, they read the names off on a couple of
2:05:59
shows Okay,
2:06:00
Unknown: killing three US service members that attack
2:06:03
among more than 160 against American targets by Iranian
2:06:07
backed militias since October, President Biden had previously
2:06:11
authorized limited strikes in response that even he
2:06:13
acknowledged had not deterred the militias, and the President
2:06:16
has been under pressure to respond more forcefully,
2:06:19
especially after American service members were killed. All
2:06:23
of it just hours after the commander in chief performed one
2:06:25
of his most solemn duties attending the dignified transfer
2:06:29
at Dover Air Force Base, as the remains of those three US
2:06:32
service members returned home. The President and First Lady
2:06:35
joining the grieving families of 46 year old Sergeant William
2:06:38
rivers, a soldier. They
2:06:41
Adam Curry: say that they draw pictures
2:06:43
John C Dvorak: of them standing I didn't see any family people
2:06:45
but okay if he says so they made me they were
2:06:48
Unknown: the President and First Lady joining the grieving
2:06:50
families of 46 year old Sergeant William rivers, a soldier
2:06:54
soldier, his cousin said 24 year old sergeant Kennedy Sanders,
2:06:58
whose family said she was always full of life and 23 year old
2:07:02
sergeant Brianna Moffitt, her parents remembering how she
2:07:05
could light up a room for us today also launching preemptive
2:07:09
strikes on the Iranian backed Houthis.
2:07:12
Adam Curry: All I see is pictures of them with other
2:07:14
service personnel. People in uniform I don't see necessarily
2:07:21
with families but okay, I mean, I I don't want to harp on it too
2:07:24
much. But
2:07:24
John C Dvorak: either way he also put it if you parsed it, he
2:07:27
could have been that Biden met with the families elsewhere.
2:07:31
They weren't on the tarmac necessarily. If you listen to
2:07:33
the way he presented that Yeah. But whatever that was, Peter
2:07:40
Alexander and now we're gonna move to Nancy Cordis. One of the
2:07:44
top rung of the reporters for CBS, CBS, CBS,
2:07:48
Unknown: Pentagon officials say to
2:07:50
Adam Curry: Oh, come on CBS. Is that a NAT POP they start off
2:07:53
with like a like a little like a little fart for the hour.
2:07:58
John C Dvorak: I think they should. Just did I think they
2:08:02
put the sound in differently but if I'm not mistaken, most of
2:08:05
these reports always showed the B one bomber taking off. Which
2:08:09
is quite a pretty sight. I mean, the B one bombers just a
2:08:12
beautiful pass no
2:08:13
Adam Curry: ands and off. Pentagon officials
2:08:16
Unknown: to b one bombers were among the military aircraft used
2:08:20
to strike more than 85 targets in Iraq and Syria to the targets
2:08:25
included command and control centers, weapons depots and
2:08:29
drone storage facilities, all of them linked to Iran's
2:08:32
Revolutionary Guard and affiliated militia groups or
2:08:36
their affiliates. The strikes were approved by the President
2:08:39
and launched just a few hours after he welcomed to the bodies
2:08:43
of three fallen service members back to US soil three
2:08:47
Adam Curry: welcomed welcome that this is this is disgusting.
2:08:51
Welcome back boys. Girl boys Welcome back. Come on. He
2:08:56
Unknown: were stationed in Georgia usage is dubious its
2:08:58
dubious by the President and launched just a few hours after
2:09:02
he is welcomed into the bodies of three fallen service members
2:09:05
back to US soil. All three were stationed in Jordan at a US
2:09:10
outpost known as tower 22 That came under fire last Sunday. I
2:09:15
Adam Curry: can tell you right now there's going to be a movie
2:09:18
titled tower 22 It will be Amazon Prime or Netflix
2:09:22
Unknown: the basis Well, you
2:09:23
John C Dvorak: know that the title is self that's there.
2:09:26
Yeah. For the taking up too good title
2:09:29
Unknown: bases air defense system had been temporarily
2:09:32
taken offline to allow a US drone to return from a mission
2:09:36
safely. An Iranian made drone
2:09:39
Adam Curry: this this is the lie. This is the lie. With no it
2:09:45
came
2:09:45
Unknown: under fire last Sunday. The basis air defense system had
2:09:49
been temporarily taken offline to allow a US drone to return
2:09:54
from a mission safely. Okay, so
2:09:56
Adam Curry: I just want to know what was this a helicopter drone
2:09:59
like Now a little bit more. And why did you have to take your
2:10:03
air defense systems offline? This is very this is very,
2:10:08
John C Dvorak: very I'm with you. 100% Okay, and I said it
2:10:11
again I'll take 100 with you 99.9% and
2:10:15
Unknown: Iranian made us go drone struck sleeping quarters
2:10:18
at the base, wounding 40 and killing Army Reserves soldiers
2:10:23
will reverse. Brianna Moffat and Kennedy Sanders. We know that
2:10:27
you can definitely feel our pain President Biden called their
2:10:30
anguished families this week. No, I really do now. I got a
2:10:36
phone call.
2:10:37
Adam Curry: This is Oh my god. This is not this is not how you
2:10:43
do this. You don't air the phone calls. Oh, let's do a zoom call
2:10:48
and let's release it to CBS.
2:10:52
John C Dvorak: And it's a good point never surprise it cause it
2:10:54
should don't wouldn't go on the air that is staged wrong.
2:11:01
Unknown: US officials blamed the attack on the Islamic resistance
2:11:05
in Iraq and umbrella group of Iran backed militias. I don't
2:11:09
think
2:11:11
the adversaries are a one and done mindset. And so they have a
2:11:17
lot of capability. I have a lot more wary
2:11:20
of setting off a wider war the US has avoided striking Iran
2:11:24
directly despite at least 165 attacks on US forces in Iraq and
2:11:30
Syria since the Israel Hamas conflict began last October.
2:11:36
Iran's President warned today we will not start a war but if a
2:11:40
cruel Force wants to bully us the Islamic Republic of Iran
2:11:44
will give a strong response
2:11:50
Adam Curry: this is some rocky level crap there Pullman here is
2:11:54
dumb. I can't believe that I'm I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. The
2:11:58
shame I'm ashamed. Ashamed of this. Ashamed of what they're
2:12:02
doing ashamed of the reporting? A shame that people watch it a
2:12:06
shame there's money in this. Bring back Taylor Swift. That's
2:12:10
right
2:12:11
John C Dvorak: here we go with the CBC. This is like the bonus
2:12:14
clip. And this is Chris. Oh, we didn't do CBS yet. Now that was
2:12:17
CBS. That was yes. With a bad net pop. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to
2:12:21
CBC and wrap this thing up at 4pm.
2:12:23
Unknown: Eastern Time, US military forces struck more than
2:12:27
85 targets in Iraq and Syria. The strikes were against Iranian
2:12:32
Revolutionary Guard targets and other Iranian backed militia.
2:12:36
The facilities that were struck included command and control
2:12:39
operation centers, intelligence centers, rockets and missiles
2:12:43
and unmanned aerial vehicle storages and logistics and
2:12:47
munition supply chain facilities. Syrian state media
2:12:51
says the strikes hit near the border between the two countries
2:12:54
and several people are dead used in the attack. And again, this
2:12:58
is from US Central Command aircraft, including long range
2:13:01
bombers flown from the US, as well as 125 smart weapons
2:13:06
capable of precise target hits. US President Joe Biden said then
2:13:12
Paul, that the US will respond. And today the President is in
2:13:16
his home in Delaware after spending the afternoon at Dover
2:13:19
Air Force Base at a ceremony for those fallen soldiers. Well,
2:13:23
speaking of Biden, then any word on this from the White House.
2:13:27
The President just issued a statement, Paul shortly after
2:13:30
the strikes, he said in part and let me just read it to you
2:13:32
exactly as it is written this afternoon at my direction US
2:13:36
military forces struck targets at facilities in Iraq and Syria
2:13:41
that the IRGC and affiliated militia used to attack us
2:13:45
forces. Our response began today, it will continue at times
2:13:49
and places of our choosing the United States is not seek
2:13:53
conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world. But
2:13:56
let all those who might seek to do us harm know this. If you
2:14:00
harm an American, we will respond. Defense Secretary Lloyd
2:14:04
Austin added to that in his own statement, Paul, he said the
2:14:09
President and I will not tolerate attacks on American
2:14:11
forces we will take all necessary actions to defend the
2:14:15
United States our forces and our interest
2:14:20
John C Dvorak: which again brings up your point about what
2:14:23
about that journalist guy character that's been detained
2:14:27
in Ukraine? Oh,
2:14:28
Adam Curry: he was killed he was he died in prison.
2:14:31
John C Dvorak: I know he died yeah. Oh, yeah. This
2:14:33
Adam Curry: is a weeks ago. Yeah.
2:14:34
John C Dvorak: So then okay, so they don't care what we do about
2:14:37
that? Nothing we okay. Now
2:14:39
Adam Curry: we don't care. No, but but we know we have to do we
2:14:41
have to spend months and months and months crying about what's
2:14:46
that guy, the journalist The Washington Post journalist.
2:14:50
Khashoggi
2:14:51
John C Dvorak: show shogi. Wasn't even an American. Then
2:14:55
Adam Curry: we didn't go over and blow up. Voice in America.
2:14:58
Well, that's why we didn't go blow up. So Saudi Arabia
2:15:02
John C Dvorak: well there's probably other reasons we didn't
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blow up Saudi I'm just
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Adam Curry: gonna say this is all this is all theater am and I
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don't know the I'm still reeling over the fact that Israel
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somehow let guys come over with motor gliders and then defense
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was open the military industrial complex writ large is out of
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control and they don't care
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John C Dvorak: I think the don't care part is like I think they
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do care and they and I think your earlier thesis or I'm sorry
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hypothesis hypothesis
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Adam Curry: yes was
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John C Dvorak: about once they know once Trump gets in this is
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the game might be spin spin spin as have some finalist rack up
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the money, fatten up the bank account set up a Swiss account
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list is ready to party. When Trump comes in with all
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