0:00
John C Dvorak: All right, right,
right, that's exactly what it
0:02
is. Adam curry, John C. Devora.
0:06
Adam Curry: February 4 2020 for
this award winning nation media
0:09
assassination episode 1631.
0:12
Unknown: This is no agenda.
Analyzing the info
0:16
Adam Curry: mavericks and
broadcasting live from the heart
0:19
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number 60. In the
0:22
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
0:24
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley, we're now I'm
0:27
wondering whether it's
pronounced Gouda or Gouda. I'm
0:30
John C. Dvorak.
0:33
Adam Curry: Buzzkill well, you
came to the right show for that.
0:37
It's right because it is
officially howdah
0:41
Unknown: Gouda Gouda you got to
do the Callaway Gouda Gouda no
0:53
is proud ah how
0:56
John C Dvorak: you hear with all
these wind storms it
0:59
Adam Curry: was also not just
famous for for cheese but also
1:03
famous for
1:05
John C Dvorak: a small town hall
1:08
Adam Curry: yeah the small town
in Holland does fail how dice
1:10
famous sports cheese and one
other export products Can you
1:13
name the products
1:15
John C Dvorak: wooden shoes
1:16
Unknown: no
1:19
John C Dvorak: strokes
comfortable whatever that cake
1:23
is
1:23
Adam Curry: stirrups coffee Hey,
that's a good one. That's Joe
1:27
title right there stirrups
coffee no candles.
1:32
John C Dvorak: Candles
1:32
Unknown: Didn't you know that?
1:34
John C Dvorak: No. Never heard
of it.
1:35
Adam Curry: Oh my god, they
export I bet you that how to
1:38
exports that more candles come
from Crowder than anywhere else
1:41
in the world.
1:43
John C Dvorak: Well the reason I
brought this up is because I'm
1:45
watching a cooking show that I
don't gorge normally watch by
1:51
watches pretty interesting. It's
called a Scandinavian cook. Uh
1:53
huh. And this guy floats all
over the place in Scandinavia
1:57
and he tells stories about one
thing or another like the big
1:59
sausage strike. Anyway, so he
says that he's making some food
2:04
at the at the end he says I'm
going to take any says Gouda,
2:07
he's going to put some Gouda
cheese you can use a hard cheese
2:11
or use Gouda. I'm thinking Gouda
I never heard definitely I was I
2:15
was good because that's where we
pronounce it in California when
2:17
we buy it at the store. Yes. And
now I turns out we're it's it's
2:22
not even goddess gada
2:26
Adam Curry: I would say in
America most people say Gouda
2:30
John C Dvorak: but you say how
do I like some how to cheese
2:33
Adam Curry: soda if you don't
put the how they're how they're
2:36
How do you get put in there
otherwise it's not worth
2:38
John C Dvorak: it. Well, it's
not gonna work anyway.
2:41
Adam Curry: But no one if you
say how does he have to say
2:44
Gouda no one else will
understand you in America. You
2:46
gotta say I just say Gouda
2:47
John C Dvorak: gotta say Gouda.
But where did the word Gouda
2:50
come from then? I mean, let's
move mispronounced it the first
2:53
time.
2:55
Adam Curry: I mean, come on you
people pronounce things
2:57
differently in different
countries. What are you my name
3:00
in Holland is od DME? Or, or
alternatively Edom? Hello, Ed.
3:08
Edd, U M Ed. Ed DME come here.
Don Adam. Yes, so did I hate
3:15
Englishness? I hated it when
people call me odd dumb. Hey all
3:19
Duncan whichever Utah
3:21
John C Dvorak: like autumn like
at UMN?
3:23
Adam Curry: No way. That's just
the way you say Adam in in
3:26
Holland are Adam and Eva, Adam
and Eva. Anyway? Well, it's
3:32
obvious what's going down now in
this political year of 2024. In
3:36
the United States, we have two
teams we have what is that? What
3:40
is that feedback? What am I
hearing? You're hearing the
3:43
storm. That's the storm. It
sounds like like nails on a
3:46
chalkboard. It's bad. The here's
the strategy. We have the
3:53
Democrats on one side. And their
strategy is war kill war war,
3:58
Iran war bomb bomb bomb war, and
they got some Republicans to
4:03
participate in that. And then on
the rights on the in this corner
4:07
over here, we have the
Republicans and their invasion
4:12
at the border illegal migrants
and they will do anything
4:17
possible to keep both of these
things going and I would like to
4:20
start in my backyard with the
caravan to take back our border.
4:27
Was
4:28
John C Dvorak: caravan of God.
Yes. God's army. It's God's
4:31
Adam Curry: army, which resulted
in 100 people going to the
4:35
border this is this is one of
the most exciting rallies we've
4:39
ever seen a
4:40
Unknown: protesters from around
the country flocked to a small
4:43
Texas border town to vent
frustration over illegal
4:46
immigration. CBS is Jason Allen
is there for us tonight. Jason
4:52
Nicky Good evening. This event
has been peaceful here today
4:54
with a lot of these people
telling me that they felt called
4:57
to be here hundreds of them
caravan from brick by By
5:00
Adam Curry: the way, notice all
the god references. They were
5:02
called to be here this is
they're laying it on thick over
5:05
at CBS here
5:06
Unknown: today with a lot of
these people telling me that
5:08
they felt called to be here
hundreds of them caravan from
5:11
Virginia here to this South
Texas ranch to protest the Biden
5:14
administration's handling of
immigration issues here at the
5:17
southern border. Small but
fervent group of people rallied
5:23
to take the border back in South
Texas.
5:25
I think we all as a nation want
this to end. Both
5:29
Democrats and Republicans. The
gathering
5:32
was part religious revival and
part Trump row.
5:36
Adam Curry: Let me tell you,
I've been watching this and
5:37
we're getting some boots on the
ground. This is not religious
5:40
revival by any stretch of the
imagination
5:44
John C Dvorak: of Satan. This is
CBS trying to make everything
5:46
out to be God's army
5:48
Unknown: crafts and Republicans
the gathering was part religious
5:51
revival and part Trump rally. We
need God
5:53
to fix this because we can't fix
this. We don't know who these
5:56
people are. They could be our
enemy.
6:00
The rally happened near Eagle
Pass where there's a standoff
6:03
between federal and Texas
authorities over border control.
6:06
CBS is Camilo Montoya Galvez is
there.
6:09
The Texas National Guard is
blocking federal agents from
6:11
patrolling this section of the
US Mexico border near Eagle
6:15
Pass. As you can see it has been
fortified with razor and
6:18
concertina wire. The US Supreme
Court has allowed the Biden
6:21
administration to remove the
wire, but Texas Governor Greg
6:24
Abbott has vowed to keep it in
place. Some Eagle Pass residents
6:27
say they are not pleased with
the national attention.
6:30
I think the political fight is
up in Washington and it's at the
6:35
capitol in Texas. It's not down
here
6:38
at the rally. People say they
had to be here to send a
6:41
message. If we stay at home
6:44
and sit on our butts. We're
gonna get mowed over this
6:47
country will be gone.
6:49
Tomorrow Governor Abbott is
going to be in Eagle Pass with
6:52
about a dozen other Republican
governors has learned that there
6:55
were threats that border
protection learned about as a
6:58
precaution moved some migrants
out of a processing facility
7:02
that was nearby. Oh,
7:03
Adam Curry: yes. So there you
go. It was as predicted a
7:06
complete wet turd. There's
nothing nothing going on. Sir
7:11
Jean is down there. And he sent
me a couple of videos and you
7:14
know, it was a press event.
That's all that it is. It's a
7:17
small little park. That is an
area where they close it down.
7:22
locked it down. Yeah, we can't
let the Border Patrol come in.
7:24
And then half a mile further up.
There's an open gate and three
7:26
miles further up. There's
there's not even a fence. So the
7:29
whole thing is a farce. And
today I was waiting for it to
7:33
happen. I couldn't get any clips
on time of Abbott's showing up
7:38
with a whole bunch of other
Republican governors. Of course,
7:42
yeah, this is not political at
all. Oh, and the timing is
7:45
perfect for Speaker of the
House, Mike Johnson, the
7:48
Republican extraordinaire to
pull this stunt.
7:51
Unknown: He has signaled that
this bipartisan Senate
7:54
immigration reform bill is dead
on arrival in the house. As you
7:58
speak to him. Do you suspect
there'll be anything that can
8:00
change his mind on that? Well,
8:02
Willie, it will be very
interesting to hear his answer
8:05
on that point, because yesterday
he made this surprise move he
8:09
introduced a standalone piece of
legislation that would aid
8:15
Israel that is significant
because aid to Israel was a part
8:18
of that border package that
Priscilla was just talking about
8:22
as well as aid to Ukraine. So
the question is Willie was that
8:26
move aimed at effectively
killing that border deal? As
8:29
Priscilla just mapped out former
President Trump has effectively
8:32
been calling on Republicans to
kill the deal. Basically, he
8:35
thinks that would be a political
gift to President Biden in the
8:38
middle of this tough reelection
campaign. I spoke to spoke to a
8:42
top Republican lawmaker
overnight who said there is
8:45
concern about not only what this
means for the border deal, but
8:49
what this would mean for Ukraine
aid what message does this send
8:54
all
8:54
Adam Curry: right so what he did
here was he ripped apart instead
8:58
of trying to go through this
process of which everyone was
9:02
pushing for was one big aid
package for Ukraine Israel and
9:07
that had to have some border
stuff and they got some border
9:09
stuff and instead he pulled what
will now call a Johnson and he
9:14
said Oh no, I'm because of
course the Speaker of the House
9:17
introduces the bills. Oh, no,
I've got a new bill. We're going
9:20
to send 17 point 4 billion which
as if it's nothing that 17 and a
9:26
half 1000 million dollars to
Israel, because which is not
9:31
going to send a big check like
Publishers Clearing House and
9:34
more bombs, more piles, more
cool stuff that we're making. So
9:39
they had Mike show up on the
Meet the Press this morning with
9:43
your your pal there. What's her
name again?
9:47
John C Dvorak: Kristen Welker,
Welker right.
9:50
Adam Curry: And she asked the
obvious question,
9:53
Unknown: Mr. Speaker, as you
know, that bill that you passed
9:56
in the House would be dead on
arrival in the Senate, your
9:59
Republic Again, colleagues in
the Senate have said as much so
10:02
I guess my question is, did you
propose this standalone Israel
10:07
aid package to kill this
compromise deal in the Senate?
10:12
No, we've made very clear what
the requirements of the house
10:15
were. And that is to solve the
problem at the border.
10:18
Apparently the Senate has not
been able to come to an
10:21
agreement. They've been
suggesting text should be filed
10:23
maybe today. But we've been told
the same thing for months now.
10:27
We've been awaiting their
action. We cannot wait any
10:29
longer the house is willing to
lead. And the reason we have to
10:32
take care of this Israel
situation right now is because
10:36
the situation has escalated. Of
course. I mean, the Hamas
10:39
terrorist have not relented and
their attacks on Israel. We're
10:44
now having, of course, US
personnel being fired upon
10:47
there. And of course, with
retaliatory strikes that are
10:50
taking place. The heat has been
turned up there, Israel has
10:53
never been in greater need of
our support. Oh, yeah. And the
10:55
house is serious about that, I
believe will pass this with a
10:58
wide margin and take care of
that responsibility. Oh,
11:01
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, so Mike,
he really he really, he really
11:03
relented on that one. Oh, they
really need are never needed
11:07
more than ever. There was a
small moment of clarity when he
11:10
said this,
11:11
Unknown: the President of the
United States, open the border,
11:14
we've documented 64 specific
actions that Joe Biden and his
11:17
ad agencies have taken to create
this catastrophe. They did it
11:21
intentionally. That's why his
approval rating is in the tank.
11:25
60% of the people who buy your
latest poll, the reason the
11:28
presidency is imperiled, as your
opening monologue stated is
11:32
because this is an abject
failure of leadership that the
11:35
American people are done with
this, the border has to be
11:37
secured. The President has the
authority right now he doesn't
11:40
need another act of Congress. He
could do it right now, but he's
11:43
unwilling to do it. And
11:44
Adam Curry: that's the message
you'll be hearing over and over
11:46
again along with all the other
great stories of migrants
11:50
wreaking havoc inside our
borders. I think what's what
11:56
happens now is a couple of
things. First of all the
12:01
immigration is it's not it's not
even through the border to the
12:06
on the ground. And remember when
you see these videos, look at
12:09
how clean their clothes are.
Their shoes, sparkling clean,
12:13
no, no, no suitcases nothing.
They're not carrying anything
12:17
that gets shipped on a big
lorry.
12:19
John C Dvorak: You know that to
carry anything was besides the
12:21
lorry when you have a credit
card a bunch of money well
12:24
there's
12:24
Adam Curry: that it's not a
credit card to debit cards
12:27
because to be honest, it's all
the money is already there. It's
12:29
not even credit is it's good.
Good to go. boots on the ground
12:33
boots on the ground from one of
our producers. was in the bush
12:38
Intercontinental Airport going
to LA for business 10 refugees
12:43
on the flight all carrying bags
from the IOM the international
12:48
office of migration from
12:50
John C Dvorak: their logo on
12:51
Adam Curry: him Yeah, yeah, I
think he took pictures and put
12:55
John C Dvorak: that in the
newsletter that is so that is so
12:58
arrogant.
13:00
Adam Curry: And lanyard with IOM
lanyards. Can you believe it?
13:06
This is all being shuttled over
through. It's all on purpose.
13:10
It's all by design. They're
raising $7.9 billion. The IOM is
13:16
through Amy Pope, former State
Department afficionado the whole
13:22
thing and it's that's there's
even one one part that's even
13:26
worse, these info Mavericks that
are just sticking in my craw and
13:30
I put Brett Weinstein up there
not a bad guy. But you people
13:36
get directed and you get
directed by people who send your
13:39
messages and you know, you got
it. You get insiders, we have
13:43
them all the time they've sent
me on wild goose chases before.
13:47
I'd like to mention things like
13:51
Unknown: quantum dots.
13:55
John C Dvorak: Quantum don't
have to mention quantum dot
13:57
quantum dots. But I do have
something else that that you
14:02
will have to mention, but we'll
do it later. Okay.
14:05
Adam Curry: So, along with this,
along with this report from our
14:09
boots on the ground, our
producer says 90% of the people
14:15
I'm seeing are military age men.
And that is so that is what the
14:20
info Mavericks are directing you
towards. The whole idea is to
14:25
get you to think about this.
They just changed the
14:28
battlefield. Don't go looking at
what's really happening. Think
14:31
about military aged men. And
we've been hearing this over and
14:35
over again. And how did this
start? It's all of a sudden
14:39
she's Oh, military age men. Oh,
they're sending Chinese in.
14:44
They're going to take us over
from inside out. And so Brett
14:48
Weinstein was on Tucker again to
talk about his trip to the
14:52
Darien Gap. This was amazing.
All of a sudden he's he's the
14:56
roving reporter and I pulled I
pulled a little clip of him and
15:01
Heather, talking about his theme
Heather's always there. No, no,
15:06
this is this is the dark horse
podcast, I do want to start by
15:09
doing want to pull the talker
clip this, it's more interesting
15:12
to pull it from that from the
home podcast. So Brett, what's
15:16
your thesis? After going through
the Darien Gap hypothesis
15:20
Unknown: that I want to put me
in a hypothesis for
15:23
John C Dvorak: not a thesis.
15:25
Adam Curry: It's a hypothesis.
And what's the difference
15:27
between a thesis and a
hypothesis? A thesis
15:30
John C Dvorak: is actually a
slight difference. hypothesis
15:33
would be the word you'd use in
academia, for pretty much the
15:36
same thing. They're their son.
As far as I'm concerned, they're
15:39
synonymous, but hypo was more.
And it also a thesis is
15:43
something that's produced
necessarily. So in other words,
15:46
I wrote a thesis, ooh, or
someone habit or
15:50
Adam Curry: be more technically
wrote it for him, maybe? Well
15:54
listen to his hypothesis. So
15:55
Unknown: a hypothesis that I
want to put forward is that the
15:58
economic migration that is so
evident that you saw at the
16:02
first camp is actually cloaking,
this second migration with his
16:08
traveling a different route,
which is housed separately. And
16:12
Adam Curry: so I have to add to
this. So he had, he went to the
16:16
Darien Gap, and he saw two
camps. One was, like South
16:20
Americans, people from
Venezuela, Ecuador, you know,
16:24
hey, we want we want a better
life, hey, they said, just like
16:28
that.
16:30
John C Dvorak: Dry your.
16:33
Adam Curry: But then there was
this other camp where he was not
16:35
allowed to film when it was
filled with Chinese,
16:37
Unknown: with his traveling a
different route, which is housed
16:40
separately, and which on the
ground has an absolutely
16:44
distinct character, and is
treated in the inverse way, by
16:48
the authorities, they don't want
it observed. They can't prevent
16:52
you from seeing it from the edge
of the campus, they do not want
16:55
you getting any deeper into the
thing. They don't want you
16:57
photographing it. And it's not
obvious why they would have a
17:00
different policy, in fact, the
opposite policy as they did in
17:04
the main migration. So anyway,
the hypothesis that I want to
17:06
put on the table, and I'm not
saying that I necessarily
17:10
believe that this is true, but I
do believe it is plausible,
17:12
okay,
17:13
Adam Curry: so that means he
didn't write it. Given this
17:15
hypothesis.
17:17
John C Dvorak: I also want to
say at this point, I'm going to
17:20
change the definition of
hypothesis because I can see
17:22
this coming to conspiracy
theory. There you go.
17:27
Unknown: The economic migration
out of South America is cloaking
17:32
a migration of largely military
age, Chinese migrants who are
17:39
motivated by something distinct
from they're not fleeing the
17:44
CCP, it's not obvious that they
are concerned about the view of
17:50
the CCP, it appears that they're
actually facilitated by it, that
17:53
they've left China with the
knowledge of the CCP, and that
17:57
they have joined this migration,
which we now try to talk about
18:00
his one thing, but if it's two
things, that will confuse
18:03
Adam Curry: things. So his
hypothesis, which he doesn't
18:06
necessarily agree with, is that
the international office of
18:11
migration is obfuscating these
military age people, he had a
18:17
picture of old women was what I
saw, but okay, these military
18:21
age people who have been sent by
the CCP, which I guess the
18:26
international office of
migration, is bringing in to
18:29
take over the United States from
the inside out. And all I could
18:33
think of was the former New York
banker who said, Adam, we always
18:40
will be China, because their
population is declining. And we
18:46
have an increasing population,
not by young people having
18:50
children and starting families,
but by open borders. And I think
18:56
this is a part of it. And I
think they want they want these
18:59
Chinese, they're probably really
smart Chinese, you know, the
19:03
good ones who got skills, who
got skills to do stuff.
19:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we can get
them those Chinese very easily
19:10
through the h1 B program that
they don't have to sneak into
19:13
the country, especially the
skilled ones. But how about
19:17
this? For some sort of counter
argument all this? First of all,
19:23
this bit about Chinese losing as
population is a bunch of people
19:26
that are on that bandwagon, but
they don't explain the fact that
19:30
oh, yeah, then I kind of have
anybody working for the old
19:32
people. They can't explain away
the fact that 30 to 40% of the
19:37
young people in China can't get
work. There you go. And that's
19:41
true. How does that make any
sense with it in the scheme of
19:44
things? is declining and they're
out of control? Yeah. Can't get
19:50
workers.
19:51
Adam Curry: I bet they're
military age.
19:54
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
yelling people. They're all
19:55
military. The
19:56
Adam Curry: whole thing is 40.
The whole thing is we want them
19:59
here. We have to remember that
this this was bet 2025 years
20:04
ago, you could walk across the
border. They were corporations
20:07
going, hey, yeah, come on over.
We'll bring you back at the end
20:10
of the day.
20:11
John C Dvorak: It was not my
hypothesis. Oh, all right.
20:14
Adam Curry: Yours will be
conspiracy theory.
20:19
John C Dvorak: You United States
has a similar situation that
20:21
China we have all these young
people that will never put up
20:26
with being conscripted. It's
just not going to happen. That
20:30
boat has sailed. We're going to
have a volunteer army for the
20:33
rest of our days of mercenaries
and whoever so we'll bring them
20:37
in over the border. Hey, you
want to become an American
20:40
citizen? Here's your path. Join
the army. Put in four years, you
20:46
can re up if you want for two
more, and you'll become an
20:49
American citizen after your two
duty we're gonna put you in the
20:52
army. I'm with you. You're going
to fight for America.
20:55
Adam Curry: I'm with you on this
and the reason why is because of
20:59
steadfast dis defender 24 set
up. Are you familiar with
21:04
steadfast defender no steadfast
defender Well, here's a little
21:09
backgrounder NATO has
21:10
Unknown: kicked off its biggest
military exercise in decades.
21:13
The Alliance Yeah, well carry
out four months of drills
21:17
steadfast.
21:19
Adam Curry: Let me let me play
it up because I'm going to I'm
21:20
going to prove your point here
21:22
Unknown: is that's the name and
it aims to showcase NATO's
21:25
ability to deploy forces from
North America and elsewhere to
21:28
reinforce Europe. 31 NATO
members and Sweden are taking
21:33
part in the exercises which will
involve around 90,000 troops.
21:37
The drills include naval
vessels, dozens of aircraft and
21:40
more than 1000 combat vehicles.
For more now I'm joined by
21:44
Island Motley up, she is a
research fellow at the Center
21:48
for Security and Defense with
the German Council on Foreign
21:51
Relations. It's good to have you
with us CFR shields, NATO's
21:54
biggest exercise that we've seen
it. Now,
21:58
I think it's should be clear
that NATO is not acting in a
22:01
vacuum, but rather that NATO is
reacting to what Russia has been
22:06
doing since essentially 2014,
violating the sovereignty of
22:11
Ukraine. And obviously, that has
been reinforced by its by
22:16
Russia's full fledged invasion
of Ukraine starting in February
22:19
2022. And that is why NATO is in
the process of planning this,
22:26
this big exercise actually the
biggest since the end of the
22:29
Cold War. So
22:31
Adam Curry: so this is now
underway. This was just a few
22:33
days before it started. And what
did we hear all over Europe?
22:36
This is a psychological
operation on the Europeans.
22:42
Yeah, it's Russia and then ah,
conscription what Boris Johnson?
22:47
Oh, yes. Left Tennant. Johnson
reporting for duty read my
22:50
column in the Daily Mail.
Everyone's go like I'm not going
22:53
to be conscripted. I'm not going
to God. You can track
22:55
conscription is drafting. I'm
not going to go into I'm not
22:58
going to do that. Then we had
Sweden. Sweden all Yep. Well,
23:04
the commander in chief over
there. Be Dane General Michael
23:09
began, urged his fellow Swedes
to quote prepare themselves
23:13
mentally for War. The Civil
Defence minister called Oscar
23:17
Bolin stressed that war could
come to Sweden, the German
23:21
Minister of Defense Boris
Pistorius shared his wild guests
23:25
that a Russian attack on a NATO
country could occur within less
23:27
than 10 years. The Dutch Admiral
wrote Bauer Oh yes, we need to
23:32
be resilient. We have to have a
whole of society approach. They
23:37
are doing everything they can to
get cold war going. And they
23:43
need to do it now because they
need money. See, France just
23:47
ordered 1.1 billion euros of
vehicles, helicopters, some
23:52
other pew pew stuff. Because
they know the minute Trump comes
23:56
in that gravy train is over.
This is that last hurrah.
24:01
They're doing everything they
can they're trying to scare
24:04
everybody into this. And I think
you're right it's like Americans
24:08
we've given up but like no one
no one wants to go into that
24:11
woke bullcrap. We're not gonna
go into the army in them their
24:14
fourth No, no, get some shiners.
I think you're absolutely right.
24:19
That's that's the deal. It's all
the military industrial complex
24:23
is running roughshod on the
whole world right now. No one's
24:26
in control of them. They just do
whatever they want. blow stuff
24:30
up. And then and even get the
Speaker of the House Johnson to
24:36
alright, you know, you hear 17
billion. So it's a tip for these
24:40
guys, but it's enough for now.
Just a tip. People have to
24:45
realize this, this is what's
going on. It's just all
24:49
military. Everything we can do
for war
24:52
John C Dvorak: war war war.
That's a moneymaker. And and
24:56
Adam Curry: it will be very
interesting to see what Tucker
24:58
comes up with who has been spot
In Moscow, if you actually go
25:02
why Oh, yeah to interview Putin,
that's that's the big rumor. Oh,
25:07
yeah. Yeah. Well,
25:08
John C Dvorak: Putin will run
circles around that guy.
25:12
Adam Curry: Well, Putin will get
exactly what he wants. Yeah,
25:16
John C Dvorak: no, you will.
That's what I meant this,
25:17
Adam Curry: this whole thing is,
it's really disgusting. And
25:22
then, you know, instead of
instead of just what this 86
25:29
Hold my hand, let me let me play
this one clip. And then I think
25:32
it looks like you got enough
stuff here to cover it. But I
25:35
just wanted to play this one.
Where is it? In the region here?
25:42
Yes. This is from our last show.
Just remember, we had a huge
25:46
huge gathering in Congress in
the halls of the hallowed halls
25:50
of Congress. And this is what
came out of it.
25:53
Unknown: And Mr. Zuckerberg,
25:54
you and the companies before us,
I know you don't mean it to be
25:58
so but you have blood on your
hands?
26:00
Adam Curry: No, no, Lindsay
actual blood is on the hands of
26:04
dead people. With 86 military
strikes, we're just bombing all
26:09
kinds of Lindsay
26:10
John C Dvorak: has blood on his
hands.
26:12
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. It's
unbelievable. And so let's get
26:17
Jake Sullivan out. Let's get him
out and talking to everybody.
26:19
Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, how many
do we kill? What do we get
26:22
what's going on how we do so the
26:24
Unknown: President has been very
clear from the beginning, which
26:27
is that when American forces are
attacked, we will respond. And
26:30
we've responded several times
over the course of the past few
26:33
months. And then when three
Americans were tragically killed
26:37
by the President and ordered,
firm in serious response, which
26:41
we are now, which is now
underway, it began with the
26:46
strikes on Friday night. But
that is not the end of it, I
26:49
tend to take additional strikes,
and additional action to
26:53
continue to send a clear message
that the United States will
26:56
respond when our forces are
attacked, or people are killed.
26:59
I
27:00
Adam Curry: mean, this message
that they keep talking about, I
27:03
think the message is clear. Now,
especially because you keep
27:06
saying it, but when this is not
over. At
27:09
Unknown: this point, we are
still assessing the question of
27:13
how many casualties there were a
lot on your hands among the
27:16
militia groups, and our military
will continue to provide the
27:20
President with those
assessments. We do believe that
27:23
the strikes had good effect in
degrading the capabilities of
27:27
these militia groups to attack
us. And we do believe that we do
27:31
believe that, as we continue, we
will be able to continue to send
27:35
a strong message about the
United States his firm resolve
27:39
to respond when our forces are
attacked.
27:41
Jake, do you know if any
civilians were killed? Do you
27:44
know if any militant leaders
were killed?
27:49
We do not have at this time. Any
confirmation of any civilian
27:54
casualties or military? Looking
at that what we do know? Right?
28:00
We're absolutely a valid targets
valid view of containing the
28:05
weaponry and the personnel that
were attacking American forces.
28:09
So we are confident in the
targets that we struck. And I
28:12
will defer to a final analysis,
the question of who was taken
28:17
out among militant leaders?
28:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, I got
to stop you from these clips.
28:22
The you've jumped from the Texas
trucking to an hour overseas,
28:27
all of a sudden, with a bunch of
stuff in the middle that you've
28:29
just passed over. It was kind of
a work of genius, but the show's
28:34
got to go on for three hours.
28:38
Adam Curry: Well, my point was,
this is just two sides of a
28:41
political coin that's being
tossed up in the media, and
28:46
Republicans are all about the
border. And then, you know,
28:49
personally, I think, you know,
the war stuff may be a little
28:54
more important. That's where all
our money goes to. Yeah,
28:57
John C Dvorak: but that's, since
we started domestically, I
29:01
wanted to stick with it because
I got a bunch of domestic clips
29:03
I want to play Alright, as
opposed to jumping into the war
29:06
already, which includes the
three by three. And over
29:11
analysis of the attacks with the
V one bombers, Yes, God. Yes.
29:20
And I said, just as an aside,
I'll probably mentioned it, but
29:24
as an aside, the B one bombers
aren't even stationed over
29:27
there. They're stationed in the
United States.
29:30
Adam Curry: What are you going
to do domestic or because I just
29:33
want to put this
29:33
John C Dvorak: point in a b one
bomber cost $173,000 an hour to
29:40
operate. Just want to throw that
in there. If you want to talk
29:44
about money wasting. Yes. I
wanted to talk about a little
29:47
bit about Mayorga because
Mayorkun is gonna get impeached.
29:50
And there was another big issue
on the meat meat, the depressed
29:53
show that you mentioned earlier
because he was on there. Yeah,
29:57
and she was hounding him about
this. saying it was political.
30:01
But the reason I would like to
play some Mayorga clips because
30:05
this is actually just for the
benefit of the audience. This is
30:08
an amazing historic event to try
to impeach a cabinet member. The
30:13
last time it happened was 150
years ago. And who was that? I
30:18
don't even know. It was
somebody's somebody's cabinet
30:21
and it was just some data maybe
the war guy. But I want to start
30:27
with a meteoric analysis from N
T D.
30:32
Unknown: Okay, on Wednesday
morning
30:34
Adam Curry: that this is the one
impeaching my Orca.
30:37
Unknown: Me. Yeah.
30:39
On Wednesday morning, a House
panel approved Articles of
30:42
Impeachment against Homeland
Security Secretary Alejandro
30:44
Mayorkas. He's accused of
breaching the public trust.
30:48
Adam Curry: I see what I know.
That's why I asked you meant
30:50
this clip. Joining
30:51
Unknown: us now to explore the
impeachment of Homeland Security
30:53
Secretary Alejandro my arc is no
30:55
John C Dvorak: you were playing
the right clip. This
30:57
Adam Curry: one says my Yorker
analysis and TD
31:01
John C Dvorak: This one says
Majorca analysis TD
31:04
Adam Curry: Yeah, the other one
just says impeaching my Yorker.
31:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well,
once you skip to New York
31:10
analysis, go back to the beach
in New York. Okay.
31:13
Adam Curry: Okay. And by the
way, it's I think it's my orcas
31:15
Majorca is a is a seaside
village in Spain.
31:19
Unknown: On Wednesday morning, a
House panel approved Articles of
31:22
Impeachment against Homeland
Security Secretary Alexandra
31:25
Mayorkas. He's accused of
breaching the public trust and
31:28
refusing to comply with the law.
And just hours later House
31:32
Speaker Mike Johnson I accused
my Yorkers of being partly
31:34
responsible for the Fentanyl
crisis.
31:37
Moms and dads brothers and
grandmothers all of us are
31:39
losing the drug that has been
smuggled across the border in
31:43
droves. Where in the world is
Secretary Mayorkas on all of
31:47
this? He is the Secretary of the
Department of Homeland Security.
31:51
It's his responsibility to
prevent these harmful drugs from
31:55
flowing into our country and the
full
31:57
House could vote on my Yorker's
impeachment as soon as next
32:00
week.
32:00
Adam Curry: Who was that
speaking in? In the house? Who
32:03
was that?
32:04
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I
couldn't hear you.
32:06
Adam Curry: Who was that? Is the
wind that bad?
32:10
John C Dvorak: Is that bad? Who
was speaking
32:12
Adam Curry: in the house there?
Who was who was that was Johnson
32:15
was it? That's what I thought it
was? I mean, this is also I
32:19
mean, they don't care. They
don't care about people dying in
32:22
the streets. They don't. This is
this is all taken leverage.
32:26
John C Dvorak: The fentanyl
thing. They can leverage
32:28
bringing the soldiers over. Yes,
32:30
Adam Curry: no, they totally can
leverage that. And that and
32:32
that, again, it's part of just
let them die. So we can talk
32:36
about it. It's
32:38
John C Dvorak: well, I don't
think that that callous, but no,
32:40
no, it's something you can
leverage to get some attention
32:44
to the fact that you're trying
to impeach this guy, and they're
32:47
going to impeach him in the
house, but it's not gonna go
32:48
anywhere after that. Which, you
know, begs the question, why
32:51
bother?
32:52
Adam Curry: But they have no
election year. Hello?
32:55
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yes, go
to clip two.
32:58
Unknown: And on the note of how
this impeachment is unfolding,
33:02
Democrats are calling this a
political stunt. What's your
33:05
understanding of the legality
here?
33:08
Of course, an impeachment is not
strictly speaking a legal
33:12
proceeding. It is, as our
founders, in particular,
33:16
Alexander Hamilton, one of the
authors of the Federalist
33:20
Papers, told us that it is a
political tool, but it's a very
33:26
serious one. And as one of the
federal courts with regard to
33:31
these cases involving Mr. Marcus
has said, Look, if if, in fact,
33:38
you in the Congress disagree
with what Mr. Marcus is doing,
33:43
don't come to us, you have a
tool available to you. That is
33:48
the Congress and it is
impeachment. So the courts have
33:52
basically told the Republicans
in the House of Representatives,
33:57
you have a tool at your
disposal, it's up to you to use
34:00
it. That tool is impeachment
34:03
Adam Curry: question. Is this
the same type of process with an
34:07
impeachment of a president where
both houses have to impeach?
34:12
John C Dvorak: No, the MP did
technically once you're voted
34:15
for impeachment. You're exactly
the same if the house impeaches
34:20
you and then he goes to the
Senate for trial. Oh, okay.
34:23
Adam Curry: All right. So
34:24
John C Dvorak: so it's exactly
the same, right. According to
34:27
Johnson, when he was grilled by
by Kristin this morning, the
34:33
show that you were referring to
earlier as
34:35
Adam Curry: she was yelling up
again, by the way, she was
34:37
really yellowed up.
34:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the hands I
say put a little they've tried
34:43
to know lighten your hands not
34:44
Adam Curry: even trying. No, no,
I don't think they're trying.
34:46
No, I looked at the hands you
now you've got me looking at
34:49
people. You can't not look at
the hands. You should sit on
34:52
your hands. It's no good.
34:54
John C Dvorak: So Dave Johnson
had made it. He says, Well, it's
34:59
not as polite litical as it was
with the Republicans, the
35:02
Democrats going after Trump
because they didn't do all the
35:05
proceeds because you're supposed
to go through a series of
35:07
meetings and committees and bla
bla bla bla bla one thing after
35:10
another before you even bring it
to the house, you just don't
35:13
bring it straight up the way a
Nancy Pelosi did. There is he
35:19
claims because of procedure.
There. There is a political
35:24
right, which is nonsense now.
Hold
35:25
Adam Curry: on. I see another
question. So if they impeach him
35:28
in the house, it means nothing.
Correct. It's just a euro to
35:32
embarrassment to me, but he
didn't want he doesn't get
35:34
thrown out. Does he get thrown
off the job? No. Okay, only if
35:40
the Senate convicts him. Would
he then be fired and maybe
35:44
serve? Yeah,
35:45
John C Dvorak: he's fired. Yeah.
Yeah. So that's so this is
35:47
Adam Curry: not going to happen?
Where
35:49
John C Dvorak: exactly. All
right. Let's just do one. Did
35:53
they want to take the higher
register? Right. This is all
35:55
election. posturing. Yes. But
it's historic, because it's
36:01
different. And that's the only
reason I want to play these
36:03
clips, because there's a lot of
interesting little tidbits. The
36:05
guy that she's interviewing is
the guy who was on the
36:08
impeachment committee, against
Clinton. And he's gotten a lot
36:13
of experience with this. And so
he has got some funny things to
36:16
say, that are interesting to
note. And the fact is that if
36:19
you do have, it seems to me, you
have a guy who's the head of
36:22
Homeland Security. That's a big
deal. That can't keep fentanyl
36:29
from coming into the country is
doing a shitty job. And that's
36:32
what I think the point you're
trying to make. I never liked
36:35
this Mayorkas guy anyway.
36:38
Adam Curry: But you're you're
not a house representatives.
36:41
Doesn't matter where we think.
Can I interject one? Clip? Just
36:50
because we're talking about
impeachment. Yeah, this? I don't
36:54
know if you saw this, the PBS
Frontline documentary about
36:57
January 6. Yeah, I did see it.
I'd like to play a little clip
37:02
here. Because this this
accentuates the point of all of
37:06
these impeachments and hearings
just being TV show. Is that
37:12
okay?
37:13
Unknown: Yeah, go for it.
Thompson's committee had
37:15
gathered a trove of information,
to challenge what to do with it.
37:22
The one thing that we knew was
the information that we have is
37:26
compelling. The thing we needed
to do was tell that to the
37:30
American people in a compelling
way. So that's why we brought in
37:34
the former president of ABC
News.
37:38
I got a call pretty much out of
the blue from the committee.
37:43
They wanted, they wanted a
storyteller. And while they were
37:46
brilliant, they were brilliant
lawyers. Storytelling for a mass
37:50
audience is not what they do. To
bring in a guy like this, who
37:55
would think outside the box
really did prove to be fruitful.
37:59
And it was Goldston who really
began to envision this as in a
38:02
way a kind of mini series that
there would be sort of nine
38:05
episodes, and that these
episodes would tackle particular
38:08
themes. On the Capitol, the
investigation for first
38:13
hearing was primetime television
is
38:15
the nation is about to witness a
defining moment, the first
38:18
hearing before the country the
results of the January 6
38:20
investigation.
38:22
This is an extraordinary moment
in American history.
38:25
When it came to that first
error. I noticed the
38:27
Adam Curry: parallel
extraordinary moment in American
38:30
history. Never impeach the
Cabinet member in 150 years
38:33
extraordinary moments
investigation.
38:35
Unknown: This is an
extraordinary moment in American
38:38
history.
38:39
When it came to that first
hearing. When you how high the
38:42
stakes were
38:43
about to hold its first
Primetime hearing. We were
38:47
either gonna, you know, make
people realize that this is
38:50
important. You know, or once you
once you've lost them, you've
38:54
lost them for good.
38:57
On the evening of June 9, fado
1pm, the doors opened. My heart
39:02
was beating pretty fast on June
9, and it was a real question of
39:09
can we do is this gonna work or
not? Come
39:11
Adam Curry: on team. All right,
everybody. Here we go. Here we
39:13
go. I'm pleased.
39:14
Unknown: I'm in this three
control room right up the stairs
39:17
from Canon caucus. And we count
down to to the style of the
39:23
hearing. And we're live people
were great. One,
39:34
the select committee to
investigate the January 6 attack
39:38
on the United States Capitol
will be an order. Without
39:42
objection. We wanted
39:43
to make sure that this was a
presentation that would grab the
39:47
audience and hold on to him
Chairman Thompson love to say
39:49
it's got a pop.
39:51
Adam Curry: So we of course
called this as it was taking
39:54
place. We talked about them
bringing in this ABC news guy.
39:58
We talked about them doing this
prime time they didn't even do a
40:01
series. They did a couple of
them prime time. My question is,
40:05
if this is out there, it's on
PBS Frontline. If everyone knows
40:09
that this happened if everyone
saw it go down. Why don't the
40:13
Republicans do this? They're not
doing it right.
40:18
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm I'm
going to disagree with this. No.
40:23
I think that when the Democrats
decided to get an ABC producer
40:27
in and put it on prime time, it
had the veneer of a TV show.
40:32
Yes. Which nobody really takes
that seriously. Because they've
40:36
seen so many of them I think,
um, I think yeah, all right. I
40:40
think it I think the credibility
went down not up because of the
40:44
overproduction values created by
the ABC guy he was putting on a
40:48
TV show must have been law and
order I watched law and order
40:51
all the time and after this, I
don't want to change my vote or
40:56
anything afterwards. It it's
just pure it becomes
41:00
entertainment. And I my system
might up in my entertainment
41:06
desiring system sees it as
entertainment, but it is
41:10
entertainment. I'm out of there
after that, and I can go off and
41:13
do something else. I think it
was a huge flop,
41:15
Adam Curry: but you're telling
me that Taylor Swift won't
41:17
change your vote from Trump to
Biden?
41:20
John C Dvorak: No, she won't.
41:23
Adam Curry: Alright, let's get
back to your Majorca clips, to
41:26
get
41:26
John C Dvorak: my clips three.
41:27
Unknown: Now on that note,
Speaker Mike Johnson is saying
41:30
it is Secretary Marcus's job to
prevent harmful drugs from
41:34
flowing into our country and
secure our border. How would a
41:38
Marcus impeachment help secure
the border?
41:42
Well, that's a very, very good
question. Because even if
41:46
Secretary maracas were
impeached, and then removed,
41:49
which is highly unlikely, given
the fact that you need a two
41:53
thirds majority in the, in the
Senate to convict and remove
41:57
him, and the Republicans are in
the minority over there. He
42:02
would be replaced by presumably
somebody else ready, willing and
42:06
able to carry out Mr. Biden's
policies? So unfortunately, it's
42:11
probably not going to solve the
issue. But I think impeaching
42:15
Mr. Marcus is called for, and
would send a very clear message,
42:19
at least to the American people,
that a majority in the House of
42:23
Representatives is doing
everything that it can to
42:27
correct the awful policies and
failure to abide by the law on
42:33
our southern border.
42:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, basically
saying what you said, Yeah. And
42:42
now I have to ask the question,
why did they interrupt all this
42:46
without stupid blood on your
hands? Zuckerberg bit? What was
42:51
the point of that? It hasn't
stopped anyone from using social
42:54
media. Was that just that layer
42:57
John C Dvorak: now? Now? You got
me thinking about that? I
42:59
haven't considered they was in
that was? Well, that was? Well,
43:04
that was a Senate hearing if I'm
not missing, right.
43:07
Adam Curry: Yes. And I'd look so
and I looked at the bills that
43:10
they were talking about. And I
went through them, you know, as
43:13
I do, like, really through
through like the kids Online
43:17
Safety Act cosa. And all I find,
yeah, yeah, I see some stuff in
43:21
there, like some interesting
terminology, like addictive
43:24
feeds, okay. But all the stuff
is everything you'd expect, you
43:28
know, in two years, we'll
implement this. You have to you
43:32
got to adhere to guys. Nothing,
nothing spectacular. I mean,
43:37
it's complete performative
nonstop about
43:40
John C Dvorak: this. The Johnson
himself has said this, that the
43:44
Senate is not going to do
anything. There's no as one of
43:49
the reporters said, he got
feedback from the Senate
43:52
Republicans that they're not
going to do anything to rip. The
43:55
Senate is so divorced from that
house. And so far, the
43:59
Republicans in the Senate are so
divorced from the house, I just
44:02
don't Republicans, they're just
doing stuff. This may have been
44:05
the Zuckerberg thing we made
just to cover up the fact that
44:08
there's other that this
impeachment is going on, so it
44:11
doesn't draw any attention to
it. Right. I
44:14
Adam Curry: think there's me
thinking people would care which
44:16
they don't smoke
44:18
John C Dvorak: screen, the
cranium screen. So this is the
44:20
last clip and then we can maybe
figure it out.
44:22
Unknown: On that note, what do
you see as the next steps in
44:25
this case? Some are saying it
could die in the House, the
44:27
Senate, as you just pointed out,
or could we actually see a
44:30
conviction? What do you see
next?
44:32
It will of course, now that the
committee with jurisdiction, Mr.
44:37
Greens Homeland Security
Committee has reported out to
44:40
Articles of Impeachment to the
full house, it will be up to
44:44
Speaker Johnson to schedule a
vote. Now, whether or not the
44:48
Republicans will be able to
secure a majority for that is
44:52
itself a question because of the
very, very slim majority that
44:57
they have. But hopefully They
will have a majority. And if in
45:02
fact a bare majority votes on
either one or both of those
45:08
articles of impeachment, it
will, in fact over to the Senate
45:11
and the Senate will have to
conduct a trial and then vote on
45:15
whether or not to convict and
remove Mr. Mayorkas.
45:21
John C Dvorak: So this is a
political ploy. This is done
45:24
just before the election. So the
Republicans in the House it
45:28
Adam Curry: got a little bit of
runway before the election.
45:31
Yeah, but
45:31
John C Dvorak: this if they get
the impeachment to go through,
45:34
which will probably take you a
month, and then they have to
45:36
send it to the Senate, this
thing of drag on close to the
45:39
election, because they're just
not going to be able to ram it
45:42
through that fast. It's a slow
process. This and Johnson has
45:49
made a point of making it a slow
process by going through all
45:51
these committees and beaten. And
then there's the Biden
45:55
impeachment coming up.
45:56
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness,
gracious. So we have it's, it's
46:00
just all political. It's just
keep going on. For the
46:02
political. It's
46:03
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm out
campaigning against the Democrat
46:07
or I'm a Democrat. I'm already
an incumbent Democrat, and I get
46:10
a Republican coming up against
me and the Republican can say,
46:13
this person voted, would refuse
to vote for the impeachment of
46:17
the of the man who's, you know,
poisoning the country with
46:21
fentanyl poisoning? got blood on
his hands. So it's all Yeah,
46:31
it's totally political. But what
else is new at this year with
46:34
this house and senate?
46:36
Adam Curry: Well, then I might
as well bring this up. Because
46:40
I've determined now that the
Taylor Swift up is actually
46:44
people talking about the OP.
That's the OP. By
46:47
John C Dvorak: the way that I
was at the meet up, went to the
46:51
Albany Mallard club meet up
Yeah. And that's what exactly
46:55
exactly what they were talking
about the opposite. They were
46:57
talking about Taylor's
46:59
Adam Curry: I have a couple of
clips just to just to accentuate
47:02
the point. Because that's all
it's Super Bowl. Marketing,
47:07
obviously. Yeah. But so first,
they won't need her after this.
47:12
There's this fake clip that's
going around, which was sent to
47:15
me several times by people
saying, Look at this Good
47:18
morning, Taylor
47:19
Unknown: Swift is not a psyop
Taylor Swift is not a sign.
47:22
Taylor Swift is not as Swift is
not a sale Taylor Swift does not
47:26
assign or Swift is not assigned.
Taylor Swift
47:38
Adam Curry: so they took that
video, the very famous video of
47:41
all of the what was that news
outlet that all had the same
47:45
screen? Claire Sinclair. Yeah.
And they just added this, these
47:48
voices over it. Okay. Here's
what actually was going on. Have
47:53
you
47:53
Unknown: ever wondered why or
how she blew up like this? Well,
47:57
around four years ago, the
Pentagon Psychological
48:00
Operations Unit floated turning
Taylor Swift into an asset
48:04
that's during a NATO meeting. So
is swift a front for a covert
48:08
political agenda? Primetime
obviously has no evidence. If we
48:12
did, we'd share it.
48:13
It's a coordinated marketing
campaign by Democrats to
48:16
leverage celebrities to excite
their base into coming out and
48:20
voting. Why alienate
48:22
your vote?
48:26
John C Dvorak: So you had what's
his name on there? Jesse was at
48:30
the beginning, Jesse waters,
Jesse waters. And when he I
48:35
thought you I thought you're
gonna play something else,
48:37
because I saw this clip where he
he actually did on his show. I
48:40
don't know what that was. That
was his short, the five or the
48:44
combination clip of some
48:45
Adam Curry: we played that clip,
we played the whole clip of that
48:48
psychological art. We played the
whole thing.
48:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with the
woman. Yeah, we played Taylor
48:54
Swift's a good idea. We played
the whole thing. Yeah. So why is
48:58
he kind of saying that doesn't
that doesn't exist? Where did
49:00
you just seems that that this is
just a comp congruence? This
49:04
Adam Curry: is just the
compilation of idiots on
49:07
television participating in the
OP, which is just to get people
49:11
to watch television and go
online football and when it
49:14
ended before Megyn Kelly to talk
about it and you know, and
49:17
everyone to talk about it.
That's the whole point. Whatever
49:20
you do, don't look at the bombs.
Don't look at the bombs, don't
49:22
look at the bombs. Look at the
border, look at the border. Look
49:25
at Taylor Swift, the god
49:27
Unknown: of primetime obviously
has no evidence. If we did we'd
49:31
share
49:31
it. It's a coordinated marketing
campaign by Democrats to
49:34
leverage celebrities to excite
their base into coming out
49:38
voting.
49:38
Why alienate
49:40
the your, your fans and Swifties
you know, they come across from
49:44
every political ideology. Why
put yourself in one area don't
49:49
get involved. Don't get involved
in politics. We don't want to
49:52
see you there.
49:53
Let's not forget that Taylor
Swift has made a career off of
49:56
writing songs about picking the
wrong man so I don't think We
50:00
shouldn't take advice from her
now. CBS
50:02
Adam Curry: actually took it one
step further and brought in an
50:04
analyst
50:05
Unknown: All right, they're
considered America's favorite
50:07
couple you know then pop star
Taylor slays
50:09
Adam Curry: the Superbowl airing
on CBS what station is Aaron
50:12
this year? Oh, I
50:14
John C Dvorak: thought it was on
Fox this year. Okay. All right.
50:18
Unknown: That would make sense.
All right. They're considered
50:20
America's favorite couple you
know them pop star Taylor Swift
50:23
and Kansas City Chiefs star,
Travis Kelce. But the attention
50:27
on their relationship is also
inspiring some truly bizarre
50:31
conspiracy theories online. Some
on the far right are claiming
50:34
the two are part of some kind of
to sway the election toward Joe
50:39
Biden. Yeah, so how did these
made up theories quickly spread?
50:43
Jolin Kent has the story.
50:45
Adam Curry: Joe link tell us pop
50:46
Unknown: icon indicating a
superstar athlete mixing a trip
50:49
to the Super Bowl and you have
the ingredients for an alt right
50:52
conspiracy. age of the internet
50:55
so is swift a front for a covert
political agenda. Right wing
50:59
media outlets have spent weeks
parroting the baseless claims
51:02
that swift and Travis Kelce are
at the center of a liberal plot
51:06
against former President Donald
Trump,
51:08
build them up, build them up,
build them up. And then at the
51:10
moment of truth, they're going
to endorse Biden,
51:13
but the bad blood which goes
back years, in 2018, she
51:18
endorsed two Democrats in
Tennessee. And during the 2020
51:26
election, Trump threw her
support behind Joe Biden. Their
51:29
meteoric rise in popularity in
recent months has riled up some
51:33
Trump diehards, including former
GOP presidential candidate for
51:37
VEC Ramaswamy, leading many to
speculate without evidence that
51:41
the Super Bowl outcome is quote,
rigged to give swift a bigger
51:45
platform to endorse Biden again.
51:48
Adam Curry: So now now we're
bringing sports ball into it
51:50
this whole thing, the whole
thing is advertising for the
51:54
Super Bowl. And then yeah, oh,
absolutely. They brought in some
51:57
AI.
51:58
Unknown: How quickly did these
conspiracy theories proliferate?
52:01
So these will typically start to
simmer in the dark web and kind
52:06
of the free dark web,
52:08
Adam Curry: John. Oh, it's the
dark web. He should have said
52:10
podcast, but it's the dark web.
This is where it simmers in the
52:13
dark web.
52:15
Unknown: These will typically
start to simmer, simmer in the
52:18
dark web and kind of the fringes
and underbelly of the internet
52:22
and then at some point, they
gain traction, or
52:25
Adam Curry: what can you do have
a directions to the underbelly
52:28
of the internet for me,
52:29
John C Dvorak: I'd really like
to check the underbelly of the
52:31
internet.
52:31
Adam Curry: Check that out from
time to time around
52:33
Unknown: other events. In this
case,
52:35
it was a Super Bowl will seem
Khaled is the CEO of Blackbird
52:38
AI, a company that monitors
disinformation. Here, we can
52:42
see all these individual little
small conversations all starting
52:45
to connect. LED
52:46
showed us how his company's AI
driven platform has been
52:49
tracking conspiracies about
Swift and Kelsey for months. So
52:53
here
52:53
we actually see that spread. We
see it snowballing. And we can
52:56
actually see a narrative evolve,
grow and become more harmful
53:00
over time, in fact, harmful
often when we color code
53:03
something red that could be
bought like activities.
53:07
There's proof that social media
can take a kernel of a lie and
53:13
turn it into an entire corn on
the cob.
53:16
Longtime pollster Frank Luntz
believes that Trump and his base
53:19
may have turned on Swift because
they worry about her influence
53:23
on the younger electorate. Last
year, more than 35,000 new
53:27
voters signed up in one day
after swift encouraged her
53:30
Instagram followers to register
to vote, and for groups looking
53:34
to undermine Swift or anyone
else's influence. Khaled says
53:38
the disinformation playbook is
abundantly clear
53:41
whether financial motives or
ideological that the tradecraft
53:46
that's developed cyber attacks
developed over the years. It's
53:50
designed to be an attack on
human perception.
53:53
Adam Curry: This whole it's
unbelievable. This is all just
53:57
feeling airtime.
53:58
John C Dvorak: Yes. And I will
say it is CBS here we were. This
54:02
is correct. CBS carrying the
game, a lot of CBS data. That's
54:06
why the other thing is she she I
heard, by the way 25,000 But say
54:13
she got 35,000 people to
register to vote. Wow, I was
54:18
questioning in the last show the
idea that she has 275 million
54:24
followers and if they are
eligible to vote at all, that
54:28
well, let's assume that maybe
half of them are but let's
54:31
assume a third of them are which
is almost 100 million people.
54:34
You can only get 35,000 out of
that group. It's worse than
54:38
that. It's worse than are
getting people to donate to the
54:42
show. In terms of percentage
Wow.
54:46
Adam Curry: Taylor's Taylor
Swift can't even get get us to
54:50
get get people to donate.
54:53
John C Dvorak: So that's like
bogus
54:55
Adam Curry: it's all it's at the
end. They should what is the
54:58
Grammys airing on tonight wasn't
Not
55:00
John C Dvorak: what's the
opposite Grammys weren't the
55:02
Grammys last Sunday? No, they're
55:04
Adam Curry: this Sunday there
tonight. That they were now that
55:07
tonight. there tonight. I
55:09
John C Dvorak: was. I was
reading on that. Just going from
55:11
my news rundown. I'm looking at
the winners. There is people
55:15
went Oh no,
55:16
Adam Curry: this has got to be
tonight. Okay, well, I may be
55:19
wrong now. No. Um, am I going?
55:22
John C Dvorak: You're wondering
you're wondering about yourself.
55:23
60s 60s
55:26
Adam Curry: Annual Grammy
Awards. 66, by the way, should
55:30
be filled with lots of devil
stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, it's
55:33
John C Dvorak: always gonna be
good. Let
55:34
Adam Curry: me see. 60s is 66 is
this February 4 2024. Tonight.
55:41
Okay, and they will have
watching and they will because
55:44
thanks to COVID they will have a
16 minute dead segment.
55:52
John C Dvorak: Or they get dead
segment is 16 whole minutes.
55:54
Yep. That's That's how many
people are dead. And it says
55:57
thanks to COVID No, that's
editorializing
56:01
Adam Curry: by yours truly. Just
briefly on the AI thing, it's a
56:07
lot of dead you know, comics or
blogger has put together
56:10
something called the no agenda.
GPT Yeah, and there's a link in
56:16
the show notes and so people
tried it out. And so there was a
56:20
question about no agenda social
and here's what the what the AI
56:24
came back with. The platform was
created as an initiative to do
56:28
the right thing for the
community, but face challenges
56:31
in moderation and management. It
was run by Adam curry initially
56:35
then managed by others including
Ryan Seacrest at one point I
56:43
love AI it's it's a comedians
dream
56:47
John C Dvorak: it goes along you
know something fun find he's
56:50
going along and doing his thing
and then some bond some
56:54
ludicrous bomb is dropped in
there. I love it. This is the
56:57
product this is the same thing
with self driving vehicles. It
57:01
was turned out that vandals like
at a stop sign. Yeah, you know,
57:06
you could write put under stop
war and then the car won't see
57:10
the sign correctly. And I mean,
there's this all these little
57:14
things you can do to a self
driving car to make it to
57:17
confuse it because it's crap.
It's junk this the whole idea is
57:22
that if it wasn't for vandals
and I actually think the Vandals
57:27
there was a thing that happened
recently about the the Taylor
57:30
Swift and nude pictures. There
was somebody being interviewed
57:34
about this. And on PBS.
57:38
Adam Curry: Again, talking about
the opposite. The OP is that's
57:41
just what it is. Yes.
57:42
John C Dvorak: As part of the
hour and by the way, if you want
57:43
to take part at least your own
little way in the app, go to
57:46
duck duck go. Type in Taylor
Swift and Ay ay ay nudes
57:53
brother. And I didn't want to do
it. But after I watched this
57:56
thing on PBS, and I know these
things even out there anymore.
57:59
Yeah, they're not. It's millions
of them. I mean, this guy's got,
58:05
it's unbelievable. And so you
Holy mackerel, and some of the
58:10
lewd material is just beyond the
pale. But so I'm listening to
58:14
this woman and the guy asks or
he says, so who's responsible?
58:18
Who does this sort of thing and
then she doesn't know what to
58:21
say. She's the tech expert. She
goes on and yak yak yak. And
58:25
what I would have said was
vandals we have there in our
58:29
midst, they do their thing. And
it's it's a good thing. They're
58:33
there because it alerts us to
the fact that these These
58:36
problems exist and can be
exploited so easily by what
58:40
amounts to just a bunch of punk
kids.
58:43
Adam Curry: It's really nothing
new. You know, they're just
58:46
nothing new
58:46
John C Dvorak: and just better
catch him just better us all. is
58:50
nothing new. You can't catch
them unless they're dumb, but
58:52
that must have been
58:53
Adam Curry: the, I think we've
talked about in the last show. I
58:55
think that was set up just to
you know, it was two days before
59:00
the Zuckerberg blood on your
hands thing. So I think they
59:04
just abusing Taylor Swift now
she should get out of the public
59:06
eye. This is a very, very dumb
idea. This is going to backfire
59:10
on her it will not end pretty
Yeah,
59:12
John C Dvorak: that's your basic
thesis about media in general.
59:15
Yes, you use it for it always.
And every time you always say it
59:18
and then about a year later it
59:20
Unknown: happens. Brands back
Yeah. You
59:23
John C Dvorak: spiked the ball
and we're done.
59:25
Adam Curry: Thank the Vandals
Yes, we shall thank the vandals.
59:30
I just want to go back to
because I know you have a three
59:33
by three about this. This whole
The whole reason for launching b
59:41
one bombers and which is I think
a lot more expensive than one
59:45
intercontinental ballistic
missile or what Trump did you
59:48
know let's target one dude,
let's get Soleimani he died like
59:52
a dog. Now which gave
59:54
John C Dvorak: I was always
thinking they did that the whole
59:56
idea of these predators where he
could pinpoint you know who you
59:59
want to kill I mean, they could
do it. I mean, even American
1:00:02
citizens, but the sand $173,000
An hour bomber. Yeah. Which was
1:00:09
the United States in the Middle
East and back.
1:00:11
Adam Curry: It's not it's not
really targeting. It's not
1:00:13
surgical strikes. I mean, it's
it's your carpet bombing with
1:00:17
those things. Yeah.
1:00:19
John C Dvorak: So beautiful
place.
1:00:21
Adam Curry: It all started while
it all started with tower 22.
1:00:25
And what we were led to believe,
is that tower 22 had one of its
1:00:31
drones coming back. And they
turned off whatever security
1:00:35
systems they had. And then the
Iranian drone snuck in a one way
1:00:39
drone, which means it's one of
those lawnmower duties, which
1:00:43
really have a very hard they
have a very limited range. So
1:00:48
where that was launched from is
interesting, but you know, so
1:00:51
there's been a lot of analysis
about tower 22. And I don't know
1:00:56
if you've seen the satellite
picture. Tower 22 doesn't have a
1:01:01
runway. They have helicopters,
and they have a helipad and they
1:01:07
have helicopter taxiway. But if
so what drone was coming back,
1:01:12
it wasn't a Reaper drone that
needs a proper runway to land.
1:01:16
And that's a good point. And
every single American aircraft
1:01:21
has what's known as an IFF if
Friend or Foe transponder. So,
1:01:28
if something's coming in, you
don't you don't turn off the
1:01:32
receiver. This thing stinks. I'm
not believing that this went
1:01:39
down the way we've been told.
Now that's whenever we lose
1:01:43
something. The first thing we
want is we either destroy or we
1:01:46
retrieve our transponder that
nobody wants anyone to unless
1:01:50
the Iranians now maybe have an
IFF transponder. I'm getting
1:01:54
this from boots on the ground.
And the idea of this Iranian
1:02:00
lawnmower drone coming in
without a transponder, which has
1:02:04
a limited range. I'm told two
kilometers I'll give it I'll
1:02:09
give it 20 kilometers doesn't
matter. Where did it come from?
1:02:12
This it stinks. Stinks stinks.
It all stinks of let's just go
1:02:17
and bomb something. We don't
we're not even wouldn't have no
1:02:20
pictures. Do we even bomb
anything? I mean, honestly, do
1:02:25
you have any pictures? When we
did? Iraq? We did shock and awe.
1:02:28
That's what I was hoping for.
Show me shock and awe. Now we
1:02:32
say we just said 86. We know if
we killed anybody. You know, we
1:02:36
got the we got some militants?
I'm even questioning that.
1:02:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you are.
1:02:44
Adam Curry: Can I play a couple
of Kirby clips because he's
1:02:46
always the most fun to listen to
when it comes. Yeah, I
1:02:48
John C Dvorak: just want to
mention it before it played
1:02:50
through right through a Do we
have a bunch of clips from Al
1:02:52
Jazeera about the situation and
I kind of concentrated on a
1:02:58
Iranian professor at the
University of Tehran to remind
1:03:03
us a number of things that I
forgot about in that it's going
1:03:06
to be kind of a it's very
interesting.
1:03:10
Adam Curry: So you want to do
you want to play those first you
1:03:12
want you want to do the Chorale?
What's
1:03:13
John C Dvorak: Kirby say here
and your clips?
1:03:16
Adam Curry: It's Kirby. It's
always fun to listen to a broken
1:03:20
knee bonehead Rear Admiral
1:03:22
Unknown: Joining us now to
discuss more of this from
1:03:24
Washington is National Security
Council spokesman, John Kirby.
1:03:27
John, good morning to you. It's
great to have you back. So So
1:03:30
we've heard from you, and
repeatedly from the
1:03:32
administration that these
strikes against the Houthis are
1:03:34
intended to degrade their
capabilities. But so far, it
1:03:38
hasn't stopped them. Is there
any expectation that the result
1:03:41
will be different or more
definitive after this latest
1:03:44
round?
1:03:46
Well, we'll see what happens the
Pentagon is doing an assessment
1:03:49
right now with to see, to see
what the effect was not only the
1:03:52
strikes in Iraq and Syria on
Friday night, but the strikes in
1:03:55
Yemen yesterday, we are
continuing to go after their
1:03:59
ability to hit us. And in the
case of the Houthis to hit
1:04:03
international shipping, we are
trying to take away their
1:04:05
capability make it harder for
them to throw these punches.
1:04:09
Again, we think we achieved good
effects in both rounds of these
1:04:12
strikes, both in Yemen and Iraq
and Syria on Friday night. But
1:04:15
we're still doing the assessment
on that, you know,
1:04:18
Adam Curry: I've always seen
these videos and the video which
1:04:22
shows the missile going and then
you all sudden there's a big
1:04:26
flash and then the camera goes
dead. And that assessment is
1:04:29
clear. But there's none of that.
1:04:31
Unknown: But John isn't that the
criticism, though? Like is
1:04:33
degrading their capabilities
enough? I mean, what do you say
1:04:36
to these shipping companies who
have had to travel 1000s of
1:04:39
miles to avoid this area because
they don't have safety and
1:04:42
security in the Red Sea?
1:04:46
I tell them that the President
has put together a coalition of
1:04:49
20 some odd countries doesn't
even
1:04:51
Adam Curry: know the exact
numbers just 20 some odd, I'm
1:04:54
telling you, John, this thing's
1:04:57
John C Dvorak: good catch. You
would know exam? Yeah, yeah,
1:05:02
they know the number. Yeah, of
course
1:05:04
Adam Curry: they know the
number. It's none
1:05:06
Unknown: ships and aircraft and
other capabilities in the Red
1:05:08
Sea to try to make that passage
as safe as possible. Now, we
1:05:11
can't guarantee that there still
won't be attacks on their ships.
1:05:14
But we are doing everything we
can with the international
1:05:17
community to protect that
shipping. We know how vital a
1:05:20
waterway the Red Sea is.
1:05:22
Adam Curry: All right.
1:05:24
John C Dvorak: Why don't did the
Z ask him the simple question
1:05:26
which I would have asked if I
was the guy there, which is the
1:05:30
Houthis captured a ship and
they're using it as a tourist
1:05:33
attraction. Why don't we go
recapture that ship? Because I
1:05:37
knew I didn't know they were a
big tourist country. We're
1:05:39
always looking for tourist
attractions, because I
1:05:41
understand now that the ship is
tourist attraction number one,
1:05:45
and the Seattle fish market
where you toss a fish is number
1:05:48
two for the tooth. He's living
in Seattle for a while they're
1:05:51
going there Look at the fish. I
mean, are we kidding me?
1:05:54
Adam Curry: No. Instead, let's
remind our viewers of some
1:05:57
important information.
1:05:58
Unknown: And it's important to
remind our viewers there are
1:06:00
multiple operations happening
here. Because separately, you
1:06:03
noted earlier, the US launched
those retaliatory strikes
1:06:06
against Iranian backed groups in
Syria and Iraq. Of course, this
1:06:09
is a response to three Americans
who were killed in Jordan. Is
1:06:14
there more to come with that
operation? And how soon
1:06:16
Adam Curry: and I hate to be
morbid about it. But we haven't.
1:06:21
I don't think President Biden
was at the caskets coming home.
1:06:26
Which you should be it certainly
if you're playing it. Oh, he was
1:06:30
there. Was he looking at it?
1:06:32
John C Dvorak: I took a photo.
There's a screenshot of it. He
1:06:35
had the the look on his face was
I've never seen I mean, it's the
1:06:39
worst Biden look he could
possibly have his mouth. It's
1:06:42
just that screwball Look, he has
i He was standing there with it
1:06:47
with his wife. I
1:06:48
Adam Curry: hate to be morbid,
but you know, I've seen three
1:06:50
pictures. Three black Americans
Brown, brownish black. One one a
1:06:55
woman, which Korean John Paul
Pierre Cardew didn't even know.
1:07:01
Because, you know, she couldn't
say Oh, three of our folks or
1:07:05
folks didn't even know. I mean,
is this stock photography? I'm
1:07:09
really starting to question this
now. I will really with AI, you
1:07:13
can just make face make new
faces. I'm question
1:07:16
Unknown: there is more to come.
What you saw Friday night was
1:07:19
just the first round. And it's
not going to be the last one by
1:07:22
any stretch, I won't get ahead
of military operations one way
1:07:25
or another what they're going to
look like when they're going to
1:07:27
come. But the President has been
clear, we are going to respond
1:07:31
in a forceful way three
Americans were killed, dozens
1:07:34
were wounded. We have got to
respond in a strong and
1:07:38
aggressive way. And we'll
continue to do that. But there
1:07:40
will be more, there will be more
response options as a result of
1:07:43
that
1:07:43
Adam Curry: attack. Now, the
obvious question is why were you
1:07:46
just yapping and yapping and
yapping for a week and telling
1:07:49
everybody it's common like
you're doing again?
1:07:51
Unknown: Why did it take nearly
a week though, to carry out
1:07:54
those strikes to that give the
militants time to regroup, hide
1:07:57
and protect their resources?
1:07:59
Adam Curry: Oh, protect their
resources? Well,
1:08:01
Unknown: it takes it takes time
to develop the target sets to
1:08:04
make sure you've got enough
visibility on the target just
1:08:09
Adam Curry: to be sure you Oh,
wait for it, hitting what
1:08:11
Unknown: you're aiming at. And
we feel like we did what
1:08:13
Adam Curry: we have the most
sophisticated weapons in the
1:08:16
world, we got to make sure
you're hitting what you're
1:08:18
aiming at. And we did Where's
the video,
1:08:21
Unknown: but that takes time to
develop. You know, there's also
1:08:23
the weather weather be a factor
in something like this. I mean,
1:08:25
the strikes that we took on
Friday night, we're using manned
1:08:28
aircraft, including bombers from
the United States. And of
1:08:31
course, you want to make sure
that your pilots are safe and
1:08:33
secure as they conduct these
vital missions.
1:08:35
Adam Curry: Is this like D Day
where we had to we had to wait
1:08:38
for the weather to clear up? Is
that where we're at now.
1:08:40
Unknown: So weather plays a
factor in all that, that it
1:08:42
wasn't, it wasn't an exorbitant
amount of time here. We needed a
1:08:46
little time to prepare
ourselves. You. For what as for
1:08:49
your other question, as you I'm
sorry, I interrupted you. But
1:08:52
you asked us about what weather
the Iranians are the Iranian
1:08:56
backed groups, I'm sorry. The
militia groups moved anything
1:08:59
around. I can't speak to that.
Specifically, we did the best
1:09:01
intelligence assessment that we
can in terms of developing these
1:09:04
targets.
1:09:05
Adam Curry: So he knows nothing.
We know nothing. The weather was
1:09:07
not cooperating. Did you call
anybody over there? Did you say
1:09:11
did you pick up the phone and
say, Hey, stop killing our
1:09:13
people? Anything like that? I
1:09:15
Unknown: wanted to just pick up
on something you said recently
1:09:17
that the US is not speaking
directly, no direct channels
1:09:21
with Iran in the region. Why
not? Some say that's exactly
1:09:25
what should be happening to
prevent further escalation.
1:09:28
Yeah,
1:09:28
Adam Curry: call somebody.
1:09:30
Unknown: It's not like we
haven't had direct
1:09:31
communications with the Iranians
before what I said was we
1:09:34
haven't had any direct
messaging.
1:09:36
Adam Curry: Oh, they're DMing
now this they were DMing when
1:09:39
they slide into your DMS moolah,
but we're not doing that anymore
1:09:43
right communications
1:09:44
Unknown: with the Iranians
before what I said was we
1:09:46
haven't had any direct messaging
to the Iranian are
1:09:50
Adam Curry: they using Facebook
do you think are they using
1:09:53
WhatsApp to DM audience
1:09:55
Unknown: since the attack
1:09:56
but isn't it now that now that
people little moment for that
1:10:01
discussion, those direct talks.
No, we
1:10:03
Adam Curry: got to shoot more
crap. We're
1:10:04
Unknown: sending a pretty strong
signal with these with these
1:10:06
strikes that we took on Friday
night. And I guarantee that
1:10:09
we're going to be sending
another strong signal to the
1:10:11
Iranians and to the groups that
they're backing the IRGC and the
1:10:16
groups that they're backing over
coming days.
1:10:18
John Kirby, thank you so much
for your time this morning. We
1:10:20
do appreciate it.
1:10:22
Adam Curry: To me, this is
outrageous,
1:10:24
Unknown: his salary ranges.
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: That brings me to
some different group clips,
1:10:29
okay, there's this guy, Joe
Pachinko. He's a colonel,
1:10:34
retired boy who they brought on
this was yesterday. This is
1:10:38
Brian on the PBS
1:10:39
Adam Curry: retired in air
quotes.
1:10:42
John C Dvorak: I think so yeah.
Because when you listen to him
1:10:44
talk, he talks and he talks as a
group and the group he
1:10:48
represents his the intelligence
community. Okay. It's never set
1:10:52
mentioned but when you read
between the lines just listening
1:10:54
to him, he's getting
information. Why does he have
1:10:57
any of this information is
retired colonel. What does he do
1:11:00
for a living they never say, but
he's somehow an expert on the in
1:11:04
the on the topic and they
brought him in to the first time
1:11:06
I've ever seen this guy. And
he's actually pretty good. As a
1:11:10
spokes, you know, as the spokes
hold for whoever knows what that
1:11:13
this is p sorry, PBS weekend
one.
1:11:16
Unknown: As we come on the air
tonight the United States is
1:11:18
carrying out a second wave of
airstrikes against dozens of
1:11:21
Iran back Houthi targets in
Yemen. We
1:11:24
Adam Curry: got to start using
that as we come on the podcast
1:11:26
today. Here's what's going on.
1:11:30
Unknown: Today assault is in
response to last weekend's drone
1:11:32
strike in Jordan that killed
three US troops and injured
1:11:35
dozens more. Last night's Air
Assault struck sites in Iraq and
1:11:39
Syria used by Iran backed
militias. Pentagon officials
1:11:43
said it took just 30 minutes
Friday night for B one bombers
1:11:46
and other US aircraft to hit
more than 85 targets. Rockin
1:11:51
serious of the attacks killed at
least 34 people, both members of
1:11:55
Iranian backed militant groups
and civilians. Joe Buccino is a
1:11:59
retired US Army Colonel he was
the top spokesman at Central
1:12:03
Command. Joe talk about how you
design an event like this A
1:12:07
retaliatory strike like this
1:12:09
Adam Curry: is CENTCOM the guys
who led all the planes come
1:12:11
through a 911 Wasn't that
CENTCOM
1:12:14
John C Dvorak: Central Command?
I have no idea. Please come to
1:12:17
her and think
1:12:18
Unknown: about how you design an
event like this A retaliatory
1:12:21
strike like this. On the one
hand, you want to do something
1:12:23
strong enough to get their
attention. But on the other
1:12:26
hand, you don't want to do
anything too strong.
1:12:28
So John, there's basically a
range of options from low level
1:12:32
of violence to high level of
violence, you know, the high
1:12:35
level you're talking about
strikes inside of Iran. Low
1:12:39
level, you're talking about the
kind of little precision strikes
1:12:43
we've done we've been doing
since November. This is about
1:12:47
what we've done. You know, just
tonight, and then last night is
1:12:50
in the low to medium range.
Okay. So you present these
1:12:54
options to the White House. The
Pentagon makes a recommendation.
1:12:58
Ultimately the National Security
Council in the White House
1:13:00
renders a decision.
1:13:02
Adam Curry: Just it's bacino
with a b b UCC Ino, and he is
1:13:08
under inspector general
investigation as of May fifth
1:13:12
2023.
1:13:14
Unknown: That's interesting.
Okay, look.
1:13:19
John C Dvorak: So they when they
say b one, bombers, bombers
1:13:23
numbers, that implies there's
more than one. Yes. I agree. So
1:13:29
I just want to say three. This
is like a billions of B
1:13:34
literally billions of dollars.
Or a million millions and
1:13:38
millions. Billions. Depends on
probably a billion. It just
1:13:42
seems existing.
1:13:43
Adam Curry: This markup there's
markup. Yeah, this. You're
1:13:46
talking wholesale? We're looking
at retail prices here. Yeah, of
1:13:50
course, that rampant. The whole
thing is, I hate to say it
1:13:54
because we have lots of military
personnel. But I think they know
1:13:56
as well. It's everything is
corrupt. And I and there was
1:14:01
this young man 18 years old at
the church, and he's going off.
1:14:05
You know, he's a Marine. He did
his basic training. Now he's
1:14:08
going to California. He'll be in
this in the region within six
1:14:11
months. It's disgusting.
1:14:17
John C Dvorak: Onward.
1:14:18
Unknown: What is the response
from Iran and from these
1:14:21
militant groups? What does it
tell you?
1:14:23
I'm cautiously optimistic right
now. Iran has denounced the
1:14:27
strikes. But they haven't said
anything about a retaliation.
1:14:31
And there's signals here that
Iran wants to hold back on some
1:14:37
of these Shia proxy groups that
maybe they've gotten a little
1:14:41
bit out of control or out of the
control of Ismail Connie. He is
1:14:45
the senior commander of the Quds
Force in Iran in Iran. And so
1:14:50
maybe he wants to pull them
back. So I'm optimistic about
1:14:53
that.
1:14:53
Does he have that control? When
is he able to pull them back?
1:14:56
What we're hearing is
1:14:57
that, you know, you think about
Kasim Suleiman Honey, you know,
1:15:00
this powerful figure shadowy
figure who really controlled
1:15:04
these forces so tightly for so
long, when when he was struck,
1:15:09
that really degraded Iran, it
really took away their
1:15:12
capability. But it also took
away their ability to control
1:15:15
these loose groups in Iraq and
Syria and Jordan in Yemen. And
1:15:19
they've gotten a little bit out
of control. And now he's trying
1:15:22
to pull them back. So there's
concern in Iran, there's concern
1:15:26
in DC, nobody wants to escalate.
So I'm optimistic about that. We
1:15:30
Adam Curry: don't want to
escalate, we're just, we're
1:15:32
gonna do more, we're gonna do
more, I'm
1:15:33
John C Dvorak: reminded of the
we had a clip it was probably
1:15:36
six months ago for someone who
says that a lot of this is this
1:15:40
was a scam between when we're
still in close contact with Iran
1:15:45
to make sure that they get their
monies and some other and get it
1:15:48
stopped a new program to some
extent, or at least being in bed
1:15:52
with EMS. And the whole every
all this is a cover for the fact
1:15:56
that we're really working with
Iran. I mean, I don't know if
1:16:02
that's even a possibility. But
that's what this one guy
1:16:05
claimed. If you recall that
clip, I'm
1:16:09
Adam Curry: trying to think I
don't have that per se. But I
1:16:14
did hear I know if I clipped it
this morning, that what is being
1:16:18
done here is seen as nothing
that doing nothing to Iran. I
1:16:22
think it was probably Mike
Johnson. He said that, you know,
1:16:25
we should be we should be
cutting their money off doing
1:16:29
stuff like that. Yeah, that
makes it hold on a second. I
1:16:33
think I have it here. Yeah, this
listen to this bit
1:16:38
Unknown: of what Jake Solomon
just said, I listened to that
1:16:40
interview, it was interesting.
We need to make absolutely clear
1:16:44
to Iran that nothing is off the
table. You know, we maintain
1:16:47
peace through strength. That was
the Reagan Doctrine. That's what
1:16:50
President Trump bombed them
again, he continued, and that's
1:16:53
what we have to do right now. We
should not be appeasing Iran.
1:16:58
That's what the Biden
administration has been doing
1:17:00
for the last three years. We're
projecting weakness on the world
1:17:02
stage. And frankly, Kristen,
that is why our adversaries are
1:17:06
acting so provocatively, what we
need to be doing right now is
1:17:10
turning up the heat on Iran, we
need to act to decimate the Iran
1:17:14
Central Bank, the assets that
they held there, we need to lean
1:17:19
on international banks to seize
the assets of Iranian proxies.
1:17:22
We need to put big time pressure
maximum pressure on their oil
1:17:26
exports. There's a lot that we
could do to Iran to send a
1:17:29
message, instead of this
appeasement strategy is just
1:17:31
including strikes,
1:17:32
Mr. Speaker, including strikes,
just to be clear. It
1:17:36
shouldn't. It should not be off
the table. Let me give you just
1:17:40
a quick example. You know, this
is from this morning in the
1:17:42
Trump administration, we used a
drone and three missiles to take
1:17:46
out Qasem Soleimani in near
Baghdad, that sent a strong
1:17:50
message and it quelled all of
the activity there what what
1:17:53
we're doing right now, we're
sending we're using potentially
1:17:56
hundreds of munitions to strike
close to 100 targets so far, but
1:18:00
we're not going right to the
heart of the matter. I think
1:18:02
that's a real problem.
1:18:03
Adam Curry: So I think you're
right. And I think Johnson is
1:18:06
agreeing here by saying, we're
not really doing anything to
1:18:09
Iran. We're just shooting some
stuff. We're just spending
1:18:12
money. And we should we should
cut off their banking.
1:18:17
Unknown: Yay, gonna happen? No,
because, well,
1:18:21
Adam Curry: if we do, then we
just work with Russia, we just
1:18:23
bring in pallets of dollars.
Remember, remember
1:18:26
John C Dvorak: that, like $4
billion in cash, just drop
1:18:30
Adam Curry: it off in cash. No
problem. By the way, this, this
1:18:33
Pacino guy, he was suspended
last year from command. And a
1:18:38
command climate survey found
that 97% of his staff reported a
1:18:43
hostile command climate. Two
thirds of them reported low
1:18:46
morale roughly another quarter
reported they witnessed sexual
1:18:49
and or racial harassment. This
is an interesting guy to bring
1:18:54
on PBS.
1:18:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
you mention it good work. ethic
1:18:59
run a clip three.
1:19:00
Unknown: Yeah. Some Republicans
in Congress have criticized the
1:19:03
Biden administration for what
they say waiting too long. This
1:19:06
strike was last weekend. That
took a full week. What do you
1:19:09
make of that? What do you say to
that?
1:19:10
I agree. I agree. Look, if
there's an intellectual thrust
1:19:16
of the Biden foreign policy,
it's conflict avoidance, and,
1:19:21
you know, avoidance of
escalation. And that's generally
1:19:24
a good impulse for an American
president here. It doesn't serve
1:19:28
us well. And if you look at the
history of Iran, it doesn't
1:19:30
serve us well here. You know,
for five days, we've been
1:19:33
talking about this for five
days, we've been talking about
1:19:35
what we're not going to do. And
I think it signals to Iran, that
1:19:40
they can continue to kind of
push us around. They can
1:19:43
continue to strike at our bases.
And we're not going to make them
1:19:46
feel pain, because what we do to
the Houthis here in Yemen, what
1:19:50
we do to these Shia groups in
Iraq and Syria, it doesn't
1:19:54
really manifest in pain in Iran.
1:19:59
Adam Curry: Yeah, that just so
that that goes right along with
1:20:03
what Mike Johnson just said,
it's not really doing anything
1:20:06
to Iran. We're just spending
money. And getting everybody all
1:20:10
riled up. And I guess the
thinking there is, hey, I'm a
1:20:13
war president. He better hurry
up and someone's got to declare
1:20:17
war. How much longer can the can
President Biden be authorizing
1:20:20
this stuff?
1:20:21
John C Dvorak: Before? The I
think half of it's illegal
1:20:24
already? All of his work as a
word. That's the idea is all
1:20:29
political idea that once you're
got a war president, you gotta
1:20:32
keep them in? Oh, yeah. Don't
1:20:34
Adam Curry: change a warring
team. Yeah, that no
1:20:37
John C Dvorak: one's buying
that. I mean, they may have
1:20:42
bought it in the 50s. But now,
this, I think I got one more.
1:20:45
Yeah, one
1:20:46
Unknown: more flying bombers
halfway around the world to do
1:20:48
this. Obviously, there are their
operational reasons for this.
1:20:51
They carry a tremendous amount
of payload, they can fly
1:20:54
supersonically. But was there
also a message being sent? This
1:20:57
is all about a message. So the
message here is more important
1:21:00
than anything you've hit
anything you destroyed any of
1:21:03
these shear groups that you
killed? The B one bombers are
1:21:06
important, because, you know,
they can fly under radar
1:21:09
coverage. And if you're going to
hit inside Iran, you're going to
1:21:13
you're going to hit or inside of
run with a B one Lancer. What
1:21:16
comes next? Well, I think what
comes next is you're going to
1:21:19
see more passes in Iraq and
Syria like we did last night,
1:21:23
you're going to see maybe more
strikes on the coast of Yemen
1:21:26
here tonight, we hit the
Capitol. I don't think we'll do
1:21:29
that. Again. I think we'll hit
coastal battery sites. I think
1:21:32
this will go into next week for
a few days into next week. And
1:21:36
then we'll see then we kind of
wait, did Iran get the message?
1:21:40
How is Iran going to respond?
How are these groups going to
1:21:43
respond? That's what's next,
it'll be the same sort of
1:21:45
targets or the targeting change.
Now you're gonna see the same
1:21:49
kinds of targets the same level
of violence. And really, you're
1:21:52
going to see these bump there's
a lot more bunkers. So these
1:21:55
these complexes that you know,
if you think about doors or in,
1:22:01
in the East there in Syria, Abu
Kamal, these are complexes that
1:22:05
have hundreds of bunkers within
them. And so you know, you
1:22:09
there's a lot more targets you
can hit there we hit 85. That's
1:22:12
really not very much. There's a
lot more we can do here. Joe
1:22:15
Pacino, a retired US Army
colonel, thank you very much.
1:22:18
Adam Curry: Retired. Do you
still want to talk more war?
1:22:22
John C Dvorak: Wait, maybe this
guy was put on the PBS NewsHour
1:22:26
as punishment? A lot of these
guys don't like to do these
1:22:31
things. That's a good point.
Okay, we get we need a
1:22:35
spokesperson to this. Yeah, you
put him on? Because I've never
1:22:39
seen him before. And he's not
bad. No, well, he's just kind of
1:22:43
give away the fact that he's
getting he's got more
1:22:45
information than you think he
should have.
1:22:47
Adam Curry: Unless you have to
work for him. Doesn't sound like
1:22:50
such a cool dude to work for.
1:22:53
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe he'll
straighten out. No, he does
1:22:56
sound like a good guy. He's not
a manager.
1:22:59
Adam Curry: Can I switch to
something else for a minute?
1:23:02
Because we're gonna lose people.
We might as well play Africa and
1:23:05
China clips. You got Africa? No,
no, no, I have. Have you ever
1:23:14
seen this guy? He does a YouTube
channel. He used to be a tech
1:23:17
lead at Google. He's an Asian
guy. And kind of like a know it
1:23:23
all kind of dude, but he was
very popular YouTube. YouTuber.
1:23:27
Okay, and he laid out a Oh,
should I say a hypothesis about
1:23:35
what's happening is how many
tech? I think the big question I
1:23:39
keep hearing is all these tech
layoffs. You know, even Jack
1:23:44
Dorsey laid off a whole bunch of
people and it's been hundreds of
1:23:47
1000s in the past couple of
years of technology. People have
1:23:51
been let go. Yeah. And I think
as I was listening to Devorah
1:23:56
Horowitz unplugged. You know,
this consensus is it's not like
1:23:59
there's some bad news coming,
something else is going on. And
1:24:05
it's not necessarily that we oh,
we're headed into some horrible
1:24:08
recession. And this guy had kind
of an interesting thesis. I want
1:24:14
to share it because to me was
like, Yeah, that makes a lot of
1:24:18
sense. And it it kind of started
with Elon Musk, you want to hear
1:24:21
it.
1:24:23
Unknown: Of course, tech layoffs
are surging over 25,000 rows
1:24:27
already cut just in the month of
January, we saw PayPal cutting
1:24:30
9% of their worlds 2500 people
gone Microsoft cut that 90 100
1:24:34
People from their gaming
division unity cut 1800 people
1:24:37
that's 25% of their workforce,
Amazon Twitch cuts 35% Discord
1:24:42
cut 17% And there's a whole
string of other layoffs in the
1:24:45
tech industry here. We have a
tech jobs chart here showing a
1:24:48
noticeable decline in tech roles
according to indeed where jobs
1:24:52
and software it and information
has just gone downhill coding
1:24:56
may just be debt. I mean, we're
talking about So the fundamental
1:25:01
changes underway here coding is
dead apps are dead. Now I've
1:25:05
missed this backdrop of tech
layoffs. This comes at an
1:25:07
interesting time when so many
YouTubers are quitting retiring
1:25:11
really rich. So there's this
wealth gap between nine to five
1:25:16
employees and influencers, which
is something I've talked about
1:25:19
before, where we have these two
class of people, right? Half of
1:25:22
millennials are basically poor.
They can't afford anything. And
1:25:26
they're stuck in these debt and
nine to five jobs and the other
1:25:28
half. They're raking it in with
Lamborghinis and Gucci and
1:25:31
Rolexes, living in these
mansions traveling all the time.
1:25:34
And isn't that funny, we now
have the social media trends
1:25:37
that watch me lose my job on
tick tock tech workers are
1:25:41
filming their layoffs and
sharing them on social media for
1:25:43
views. So what their nine to
five jobs are burning down their
1:25:47
social media channels are
thriving. And you see these
1:25:49
people finally waking up to
that.
1:25:51
Adam Curry: And I think this may
have something to do with the
1:25:53
extreme dissatisfaction of
younger generation of workers
1:25:58
because it is that I'm seeing
these trends a lot of the I'm
1:26:01
quitting YouTube is you know,
just to get views like oh, I
1:26:04
didn't quit no all you begged me
to stay. But there's a lot of
1:26:08
money has been made. And we even
just saw recent, the Renewal by
1:26:11
Joe Rogan, although it's not
quite the same as as his initial
1:26:16
deal. Same goes for color Daddy,
you know, they're they're
1:26:22
upfront and revenue sharing
deals. But I think people are
1:26:25
seeing this and then what used
to be the big hero, a oh, we oh,
1:26:30
he's a ninja ninja coder.
Remember that? Remember, we were
1:26:33
hiring ninjas ninja coder, and
they were making 234 100 grand.
1:26:38
I mean, lots of money. And this
guy says, you know, no, we've,
1:26:42
we've, we're done. We built it
all.
1:26:44
Unknown: So here's what I think
is happening. We essentially
1:26:46
reached a local maximum and
technology where we invented
1:26:50
basically digital drugs, social
media, where everybody is now
1:26:54
just addicted to this digital
opioid. And they're just
1:26:57
vegetating in front of their
screens, watching short videos,
1:27:00
Tik Tok videos, YouTube videos
like this one. And nobody really
1:27:04
wants to do anything else.
People are just totally content.
1:27:07
People don't need to buy
anything. They don't need to
1:27:09
download new apps or websites.
It's kind of like building
1:27:11
someone that TV and then asking
them if they want anything more
1:27:15
from you. And the apps or
websites or services, no, they
1:27:17
just want to watch their shows
now. And so in the way content
1:27:21
became the new software where a
lot of value creation shifted
1:27:24
from the tech stack to
infrastructure of building that
1:27:26
first TV. Not that spilt. We
don't need the builders for that
1:27:30
we just need someone to maintain
this TV. And then value shifts
1:27:33
into the shows creation is kind
of like the movie industry where
1:27:37
you have the sound engineers and
the stage engineers and
1:27:40
production designers, they don't
really get paid much but as the
1:27:43
show stars who get paid the
most. And so similarly, at the
1:27:46
time when Twitch is laying off
35% of its staff, software
1:27:50
engineers, managers, college
educated 95, folks, it's topstar
1:27:55
and streamer pokey main is
leaving Twitch voluntarily. She
1:27:59
has not been laid off here,
folks, with the rumors of her
1:28:01
finding and potentially $75
million deal. So it's just
1:28:04
funny. There's this divide where
some people are leaving the
1:28:07
company because they're fired.
And then some people are leaving
1:28:11
because they're they're
retiring. Basically, they're
1:28:13
done. This
1:28:14
Adam Curry: rings true to me.
Have there been any new exciting
1:28:18
app any new development? I mean,
we have really nothing? I mean
1:28:23
AI? Really, Where's where's all
the coders for that? I mean,
1:28:28
sure, buzz kill. There's,
there's definitely a market for
1:28:32
them, but not, not for not for
not the level that we had before
1:28:37
of, oh, we've got to build all
this stuff out and you know,
1:28:40
once Instagram created their
version of Tik Tok and Tik Tok
1:28:43
is tick tock. You know, this guy
calls it the low opportunity
1:28:48
era. But still
1:28:49
Unknown: with all of this
quizzing, whether voluntarily or
1:28:52
not, I think it reflects a low
opportunity, low growth,
1:28:55
stagnant era that we're living
through where there's just
1:28:58
nothing really exciting going on
a lot of technology that should
1:29:02
have taken off like web three,
the metaverse AI it didn't
1:29:05
really get too far. You know, AI
may have some potential but it's
1:29:08
also the playground mostly a big
tech companies that have the
1:29:11
data and GPUs to train on. Most
normal people aren't going to be
1:29:14
doing that. The chat GPT store
was kind of a buzz. It was just
1:29:18
wrappers on chat GPT, you've got
Apple vision Pro, pretty
1:29:22
expensive, limited market. And
that should be clear by now apps
1:29:26
and websites are long dead,
people stopped using those as
1:29:29
soon as they began vegetating on
short form videos. And so with
1:29:33
everybody vegetating on digital
drugs, the game industry is also
1:29:36
suffering because it simply cost
too much per minute of
1:29:39
entertainment. And we can see us
consumer spending on gaming
1:29:42
here, which is down 14.5% In the
past three years, and it's
1:29:46
basically a stagnant industry in
an area where there continues to
1:29:50
be inflation and rising costs,
so a lot of companies are seeing
1:29:53
weak consumer demand. Other
meanwhile, YouTube ad sales
1:29:56
soared $9.2 billion in a
blowout. quarter as they're
1:30:01
firmly back in growth mode after
a quiet year last year.
1:30:05
Adam Curry: I don't know. To me
it sounds sounds very plausible
1:30:08
that this is just they're done
building. We got nothing. We got
1:30:12
no other ideas except quantum
computing, but that's still on
1:30:15
the horizon that's still on the
horizon.
1:30:21
John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting hypothesis. I can't
1:30:27
argue with it. I mean, there are
people that I've known this was
1:30:30
always been the case in high
tech. I remember going back into
1:30:34
the late 70s When you had when
you first had the s 100. Bus
1:30:39
come out.
1:30:40
Adam Curry: Oh, the s 100. Boss.
Remember those days people? I
1:30:44
don't know. What was the s 100.
Boss? I have no idea what that
1:30:48
is.
1:30:49
John C Dvorak: It was a bus, you
know, a backplane that had 100
1:30:54
pins on it. And it was called
the s 100. Bus and it was
1:30:57
developed. I think the Altair is
the first one that they
1:31:01
developed a kind of a quasi
version, they got formalized and
1:31:04
became a standard that wasn't
the artist play until the IBM PC
1:31:08
came along with its own bus
1:31:09
Adam Curry: Rs 232. Is that what
replaced it? Rs
1:31:12
John C Dvorak: 232 is a is an
interface. Okay,
1:31:15
Adam Curry: bro, does not I
don't know what you're talking
1:31:17
about. I don't either. I'm just
throwing stuff out.
1:31:19
John C Dvorak: So there was this
guy. There was the early days of
1:31:25
micro computing, which is what
it was called. There was all
1:31:30
these graphic guys had come
along. And anyway, there was a
1:31:32
guy, one guy who came out with a
thing called a Hercules card. It
1:31:37
was Herky. I think there may
have even been around here,
1:31:39
Hercules, maybe. But he
Hercules. It made this graphics
1:31:43
card that became kind of a quasi
standard because it was so good.
1:31:47
The guy made a shit ton of
money. I mean, not by today's
1:31:50
standards, but by the standards
back then. Yeah, a shit ton of
1:31:54
money and he as soon as he
cashed out he just took his put
1:32:00
on some sandals and moved to
Mexico and he never was heard
1:32:03
from again. And I knew that guy
there was just uh yeah, I'm
1:32:07
rich. I'm out of here on
1:32:08
Adam Curry: smart man he didn't
he didn't was not a serial
1:32:10
entrepreneur didn't didn't go no
fall for that scam, like how to
1:32:14
spend your I'll use my own
money, dumbest thing I've ever
1:32:17
John C Dvorak: done, I use my
own money to make more money. So
1:32:22
this type of personality in tech
is not an unusual character that
1:32:27
would just develop somebody
making enough money to get more
1:32:30
than get by. But you know, you
think you got a lot of money.
1:32:33
And you don't I mean, you do for
like a year or two. And then
1:32:37
they bail out and they go away.
And so maybe there is an element
1:32:40
of that going on. There's one
1:32:42
Adam Curry: other thing that he
said, which is which I think is
1:32:45
something that is very DH
unplugged. And it all started
1:32:49
with Elon and I think he has a
point here.
1:32:51
Unknown: I think it was really
Elon Musk, who kicked off all of
1:32:53
the firings when he fired 80% of
Twitter's workforce, saving the
1:32:57
company massive amounts of
money, cutting bloat, and so a
1:33:00
lot of other tech CEOs probably
saw that too and realize they
1:33:04
wanted to cut through all of the
management below as well. So
1:33:07
Instagram here is also
announcing they're cutting a
1:33:09
level of management. The TPM
role or technical program
1:33:13
manager is essentially been
eliminated by Instagram and what
1:33:16
Mark Zuckerberg called the year
of efficiency aimed at removing
1:33:20
layers of management. The result
was 1000s of layoffs last year
1:33:23
and Reduction and Management
ranks and this effect was
1:33:25
probably also compounded by over
hiring during the pandemic, as
1:33:29
well as hopes that AI can
possibly help improve some of
1:33:32
the efficiency of current
workers. Although general
1:33:34
consensus seems that AI is not
behind the current wave of
1:33:38
layoffs. That is coming later
on. It's another potential
1:33:42
factor behind tech layoffs is
section 174, a new tax bill that
1:33:46
came into effect last year,
which essentially made software
1:33:48
engineering salaries, non
deductible in the first year,
1:33:52
you have to amortize that cost
over five years with only 10%
1:33:56
deductible in the first years.
The industry is changing. These
1:34:00
days. Everybody entered dog is
coding immigrants are coding
1:34:04
fresh college grads are coding
check up, hazing is becoming an
1:34:08
oversaturated field where
employers are realizing the code
1:34:11
base pay you 300 to 500k and
free cafeteria food for two
1:34:16
hours of work a day.
1:34:17
Adam Curry: So that's the r&d
tax credit that that that Joe
1:34:21
Biden overrode that with an
executive order. Yeah. So know
1:34:27
John C Dvorak: that I didn't
know. I didn't know either. See,
1:34:29
that becomes a big deal. You
have to change everything. And
1:34:33
then because it changes the way
you do the books, and which
1:34:36
reminds me since you brought up
you said Zuckerberg was
1:34:38
mentioned I should mention this.
Can you check the price of meta
1:34:43
stock?
1:34:44
Adam Curry: I think it's a it's
probably way beyond the $400
1:34:49
that I was willing to bet we
would never reach.
1:34:53
John C Dvorak: You were willing
to bet you made a $500 bet. Oh,
1:34:56
I
1:34:56
Adam Curry: did. I thought you
didn't take it. No, I
1:34:59
John C Dvorak: didn't take the
five $5,000 Bet you wanted to
1:35:01
make.
1:35:03
Unknown: Okay. Well, here's
1:35:05
John C Dvorak: the clip calling
names. And
1:35:07
Adam Curry: we've got a whole
panel of douchebags who are
1:35:09
going to narc on you're
constantly they're dead. Not
1:35:13
that it's like Facebook. How's
that $400 stock doing?
1:35:18
Unknown: Let's get into you
wait, you wait,
1:35:20
Adam Curry: I will bet you $500
Right now that Facebook will
1:35:24
never get back to $400. And
unless they do some, you know,
1:35:29
unless they died the bets on
him, okay, and that was the same
1:35:33
flow because somebody record
this with the same float you're
1:35:36
not allowed you're not allowed
to manipulate by changing the
1:35:39
float with a split or reverse.
1:35:40
John C Dvorak: There's never
this bull crap did float is
1:35:43
never the same. There'll be some
issuances. There'll be some
1:35:46
buybacks
1:35:48
Adam Curry: where there was a
split or you're
1:35:51
John C Dvorak: adding a bunch of
disclaimers. You don't want to
1:35:54
do the bad Oh
1:35:55
Adam Curry: I've done
$5,000 5000 $5,000 Now I say I
1:36:03
say
1:36:04
John C Dvorak: I'll do the 500
but the reason I want you to
1:36:07
5000 because you can't afford it
I never get paid boys coin made
1:36:14
Adam Curry: point made you're
afraid you're afraid I have no
1:36:17
fear. So yes, I was alerted to
this. I honestly did not
1:36:24
remember the way that went down
that it's was about two years
1:36:29
and four months ago episode 1492
And after having hearing that
1:36:36
because of course people sent
that to me. I apologize. I was
1:36:42
not only I defaulted to my
carnal mind, I'm ashamed and
1:36:47
embarrassed because I called you
names and I really I repented
1:36:51
for this I am very sorry and I
want to thank you for having
1:36:54
grace on me for not taking my
$5,000 and I will gladly pay you
1:36:59
the 500 from the bet and I'm
sorry
1:37:04
John C Dvorak: well thank you
very much for being sorry the
1:37:08
$5,000 Bet you're right you
should thank me for not taking
1:37:14
the bet I but I in there I did
say you wouldn't pay it because
1:37:18
you're not going to pay 5000 I
bet nobody does. And that's my
1:37:22
tip to people out there who want
to bet when people when somebody
1:37:25
makes an outrageous but don't do
it because you're going to just
1:37:28
going to cause friction if I
even get the $500 I'll be
1:37:32
surprised but I will take it if
I it will go to a charity.
1:37:37
Adam Curry: Can I send it to you
in Bitcoin? Come on,
1:37:41
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
wallet
1:37:43
Adam Curry: count. I'll set you
up with a wallet. You never
1:37:45
know. I mean it's like kind of
doubling down for you.
1:37:50
John C Dvorak: If you really
have cash,
1:37:52
Adam Curry: I'll send it I'll
send a
1:37:53
John C Dvorak: pallet of
dollars. But now we could.
1:37:57
Adam Curry: I am sorry. That was
very embarrassing. I heard that
1:38:00
and I was unhinged and I said I
defaulted to my my defaulted to
1:38:05
my carnal mind. It was not good.
That's I don't like what I heard
1:38:09
there.
1:38:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so I will
if you want I'll put the bed in
1:38:18
abeyance if you want to do
double or nothing for Facebook
1:38:20
hitting 1000 No,
1:38:22
Adam Curry: I'm done. I've I
will. I'll take my lashes. I'll
1:38:26
take my lashes. I'm not gonna go
there. No, no, I'm done. I've
1:38:30
never been good with stocks. I
mean, I'm the guy that sold all
1:38:33
my bitcoin at $900 thinking this
is dynamite.
1:38:38
John C Dvorak: Hey, you so I've
said it before. And I'll say it
1:38:42
again talking about this on dish
and like, if I had bought, say
1:38:46
$200 with a Bitcoin at 25 cents.
Yeah. The likelihood of me
1:38:52
keeping it past $400 Bitcoin is
probably nil. The best the only
1:38:58
way you can do that is you buy
it for 25 cents and then somehow
1:39:01
lose track of it. And then
suddenly, years and years later
1:39:06
find the key to the kingdom. You
old wallet that's kind
1:39:10
Adam Curry: of that's kind of
what happened. But it gets worse
1:39:14
the story is actually worse.
Because I took the money from
1:39:19
the Bitcoin I sold and I de
traded it
1:39:24
John C Dvorak: Wow. Go into
commodities while you're at it.
1:39:29
Alright, since
1:39:29
Adam Curry: since we're doing
old clips, I want to play
1:39:32
something that just aired and I
want to play a classic no agenda
1:39:36
clip. This showed up on Tucker
Carlson. Some guy named Callie
1:39:42
Callie Ed, I think his name is
and he he's as like a healthy
1:39:47
you know, he does. He's a
healthy medicine guy. What do
1:39:50
they call it these days that
there's a term for to keep for
1:39:53
wellness, a function of
functional medicine doctor, and
1:39:56
I've ever heard this functional
medicine doctor and he promotes
1:39:59
you know Everything except
pharmaceuticals. And he's on
1:40:02
with Tucker. And he brings out a
This clip was sent to me by many
1:40:06
people, usually for the same
reason. He says, Oh, listen to
1:40:11
the I cut it down a little piece
here. But you're
1:40:13
Unknown: saying that pharma buys
TV spots, not to convince people
1:40:18
to ask for specific drugs from
their physicians but to subvert
1:40:22
the news business.
1:40:23
Adam Curry: This is a this is an
open secret working for Pharma.
1:40:26
I'd never thought of that as
this is an open secret. The kind
1:40:29
of silly ads you see between the
news breaks. The points of that
1:40:34
is not it's largely to impact
the customer. But but the
1:40:38
farmers already got that they've
already bought off the doctors.
1:40:41
They're good on that. No, this
is an open secret. The news ad
1:40:46
spending from pharma is a public
relation lobbying tactic,
1:40:50
essentially to buy off the news.
The news is a referee. They're
1:40:55
not investigating Pharma. But
I've noticed that the news has
1:40:59
become the news has become
basically a referee, that you
1:41:03
are a terrible anti science
Luddite for asking why, you
1:41:09
know, the shots that we require
our kids to get that
1:41:12
fundamentally by their own
advertising, change the immune
1:41:17
system of that child for life,
why it's gone from 20 to 70. Do
1:41:20
even ask that question, the news
referees that calls you anti
1:41:24
science when the two largest
vaccine makers in the country
1:41:27
are literally criminal
enterprises. GlaxoSmithKline and
1:41:30
Merck, in the past five years
has settled two of the largest
1:41:34
criminal penalties in American
corporate history for bribing
1:41:37
and misleading bribing doctors
and misleading creating
1:41:40
misleading research, who are the
two largest vaccine makers? So
1:41:43
you literally have the media
playing referee, you can't even
1:41:46
ask a question. So this was a
big revelation for Tucker
1:41:49
Carlson. And he really
1:41:51
John C Dvorak: what we've been
talking about for how many years
1:41:54
Well, I
1:41:54
Adam Curry: went into barricade
I went, I went into being it.io.
1:41:59
And which there's a new version
coming, by the way, which will
1:42:02
be killer. And I was able to go
back. I mean, we had other
1:42:06
mentions of advertising, but
this was the most sinks, no
1:42:10
agenda, Episode 343. From
September 29 2011. There we go.
1:42:18
Let's go back and see what we
saw. What
1:42:20
John C Dvorak: choice does he
have? He's running a commercial
1:42:23
show that has sponsors on a
network that relies like
1:42:26
everyone else on drug
advertising. What's he supposed
1:42:29
to do? He take the donation
model and make less money. I
1:42:34
mean, I don't know what you
expect the guy to do. He has no
1:42:36
choice in the matter. He is like
everybody else in the media.
1:42:40
Everything that people watch out
there is bought and paid for by
1:42:43
big pharma, Big Pharma as the
right now probably one of the
1:42:46
biggest advertisers, they're
making so much money on on some
1:42:49
of these sketchy drugs. That,
you know, you can't say what?
1:42:53
And then you have the vested
interests of the war on drugs.
1:42:56
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it's
important for people to know
1:42:57
because Jon Stewart does come
across as the guy Yeah, and but
1:43:03
he's not he too, is beholden to
the pharmaceutical industry in
1:43:07
this case, and it's a six minute
clips, I'm not gonna play it,
1:43:10
but there's a link to the actual
video. There you go.
1:43:14
John C Dvorak: 13 years, 13
years, and it was a thing, and
1:43:19
it's always been a thing with
us. Yep. Yep. And that has to be
1:43:24
able to want it. And we always
mentioned that we're one of the
1:43:26
two countries in the world that
allow pharmaceuticals to add
1:43:29
prescription to advertise
prescription drugs, or IV.
1:43:33
They've always advertised
aspirin.
1:43:36
Adam Curry: But but they control
they control all yes, but they
1:43:39
get
1:43:39
John C Dvorak: the mechanism
mechanism of control. So they
1:43:41
own the media. The media has
been been co opted, captured.
1:43:46
Remember the capture they've
been captured by big pharma so
1:43:49
they can't say anything now.
1:43:51
Adam Curry: It is what this is
news.
1:43:54
John C Dvorak: What's
1:43:55
Adam Curry: going on in Canada
right now. I, I pray this does
1:44:01
not come to the United States.
What what is happening there.
1:44:05
This is about made, which is
just a I love the acronym made
1:44:09
because you think of a me, I'm
coming in here, I'm going to
1:44:12
sweep around and I'm going to
kill you, which is medically
1:44:15
assisted assistance in dying.
And the Canada has put a pause
1:44:22
on this. And this is very
disappointing. To the to the to
1:44:27
the industry to the death
industry. In Canada,
1:44:30
Unknown: the federal government
is defending its decision to
1:44:33
delay the expansion of medically
assisted death to include those
1:44:36
suffering from mental illness.
It's the second time they've
1:44:39
press pause on the legislation.
James Cameron is a member of the
1:44:43
Board of Directors for the
advocacy group dying with
1:44:45
dignity and he joins me now
James Collins, good to speak
1:44:48
with
1:44:48
Adam Curry: you get ready for
this Google.
1:44:49
Unknown: So your organization
says the work has been done to
1:44:52
move forward. Now. How do we
reconcile that with the reports
1:44:55
and the statements from various
governments saying Canada is
1:44:58
just not ready to do this real
1:44:59
life? You have to go back and
look at what was said at the
1:45:02
time that the postponement, the
sunset clause was extended last
1:45:07
year. And Minister lametti was
very clear as to what the
1:45:10
markers were there needed to be
the consideration of the report
1:45:14
of the expert panel, there
needed to be an educational
1:45:18
program developed so that
clinicians could be prepared for
1:45:22
this. It needed to be better
data collection, and needed to
1:45:26
the regulators across the
country needed to have time to
1:45:30
prepare regulations and
guidelines. And all of those
1:45:35
markers have been met. So there
are obviously some people in
1:45:39
this country who do believe that
the system isn't ready. But many
1:45:45
more, those who are actually
engaged, the Dan is doing
1:45:50
assessments and delivering made,
testified before the committee
1:45:56
that they were ready and ready.
personally disappointed that the
1:46:03
government now intends to, I
want to go down the road for
1:46:08
some indefinite period of time.
I don't know how long that is.
1:46:11
But I'm more disappointed for
the relatively few Canadians who
1:46:16
meet the very strict criteria
and were hoping and waiting for
1:46:21
the day to die and they'd be
able to apply for med for made
1:46:25
and if they were successful, to
receive that service.
1:46:32
Adam Curry: It's a service it's
a service. And what this was
1:46:35
about was they didn't want to
include mental disorders. People
1:46:41
want to die because they are
depressed. I mean, that's,
1:46:45
that's like one of the hallmarks
of depression. And this guy
1:46:49
wants to kill people over it's
It's baffling to me.
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: It was kind of
baffling about the whole thing
1:46:58
is that the Canadians have got
this MA MA ID deal and I would
1:47:04
find somebody then they put them
to I don't know what they do to
1:47:07
him but they die. Yeah. And you
know, everybody's happy about
1:47:11
it. In the United States where
we have executioner's row you
1:47:15
can't put anyone to death
because all you know that this
1:47:18
doesn't work that doesn't work
we can't get any more of this
1:47:21
drug. I mean, how can the
Canadian so casually put the
1:47:25
normal citizens to death and we
can't put anyone criminals How
1:47:30
does that work? Oh,
1:47:31
Adam Curry: I think we both had
a clip about that about that
1:47:34
we're gonna suffocate nitrogen
yes suffocate some guy.
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: That was the
latest one Yeah, I think
1:47:40
adequate because it shows
inheritance
1:47:42
Unknown: Alabama is set to
execute a criminal with nitrogen
1:47:45
gas tomorrow, a method never
used before. The US Supreme
1:47:49
Court just declined to block the
state. The man in question
1:47:53
survived a different method of
capital punishment two years
1:47:56
ago. I'm
1:47:57
Adam Curry: always surprised
like oh don't kill him. That's
1:48:01
cruel. You can't quit but
killing babies not as cool
1:48:04
that's all good let's go protest
for that. I'm always I'm always
1:48:07
baffled by our attitude towards
death in the United States
1:48:10
John C Dvorak: well I met
baffled by the Republican and
1:48:13
Democrat schism regarding this
the Democrats are okay with
1:48:18
killing babies and but they're
not okay with death row. Oh, no,
1:48:22
we can't have the death penalty.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying
1:48:24
Republicans are just the
opposite they're not killing
1:48:28
killing babies will kill these
bastards in jail. So I mean,
1:48:33
it's just like the both sides
seem to have like a mitt, you
1:48:36
know, maybe you should switch
some views back and forth. I'm
1:48:40
only person I kind of think is
not a hypocrite is when it
1:48:43
doesn't want to kill babies or
either won't kill everybody.
1:48:47
Yeah,
1:48:47
Adam Curry: if we're gonna kill
everybody, I want the primetime
1:48:51
rights. I've said this for many
years. Yeah, this is your goal
1:48:54
in life. This will be my exit
strategy I want to produce
1:48:58
today.
1:48:58
John C Dvorak: We've got to be
you'd be worth billions
1:49:01
billions,
1:49:02
Adam Curry: I'd be able to pay
off that $500 bet in a
1:49:05
heartbeat. heartbeat.
1:49:08
John C Dvorak: Never pay out the
$5,000 bet that's for sure. I
1:49:11
can do the three by three or we
can go to the Iranian Professor
1:49:15
which I could also push off.
Well,
1:49:17
Adam Curry: why don't I do two
quick fun climate change clips.
1:49:23
And then and then we can do the
three by three. How does that
1:49:25
sound? Alright, alright. So the
first one is very underreported.
1:49:31
And it is climate change related
but the farmers in Europe are on
1:49:37
the move. Everywhere. All
countries, they're not
1:49:41
John C Dvorak: very well covered
by the all
1:49:44
Unknown: tractors clogged the
Luxembourg square and Brussels
1:49:46
Thursday during an EU summit.
Their goal deliver their message
1:49:49
of less bureaucracy and better
prices. A movement that started
1:49:53
several weeks ago in the south
of France has not erupted across
1:49:55
Europe, with farmers not
blocking roads in Portugal,
1:49:58
Belgium, Germany. Poland,
Romania, Italy and Spain and in
1:50:03
France Dangar has moved from the
provinces to Paris. Earlier this
1:50:06
week, farmers blocked major
arteries into Paris with their
1:50:09
tractors. And yesterday, almost
80 people were arrested outside
1:50:12
the international food market to
dish out the Paris at farmers to
1:50:15
send it on the area and were met
by armored vehicles. Their anger
1:50:19
is centered around the need to
make more money. They generally
1:50:21
say they need less red tape,
less environmental restrictions
1:50:25
and protection from cheap
foreign imports. France has
1:50:27
proposed giving livestock
farmers 150 million euros per
1:50:30
year to ease their concerns. The
EU Commission has responded by
1:50:34
suggesting the limit Ukrainian
imports of sugar, poultry and
1:50:37
eggs. This will also ease
restrictions on the use of land
1:50:40
left fallow for environmental
reasons. But the plans still
1:50:43
need to be approved by the 27
country member bloc in the
1:50:46
European Parliament. By
1:50:48
Adam Curry: the way, not a
mainstream clip. You cannot get
1:50:50
a mainstream clip that overviews
all of these protests on all of
1:50:54
these roads, no all there's
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: nothing we're not
covering it. And it's and
1:50:58
especially with the farmers
where they have the armored
1:51:01
tanks and the tractors in one
side. It's unbelievable. And
1:51:05
this is going on all over the
place. And a lot of it does have
1:51:08
to do with this Ukraine war
because they you just heard a
1:51:10
little clip.
1:51:12
Adam Curry: The older Ukraine,
car
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: Guile owns
Ukraine farms, and so let's move
1:51:16
to move them into Europe. Oh,
1:51:18
Adam Curry: you know what, and I
wondered this the last climate
1:51:20
change clip but I got a PDF from
one of our producers. And it's,
1:51:28
you know, opened it up here.
This is celebrating 10 years in
1:51:33
Ukraine 10th anniversary of
bowing in Ukraine a decade of
1:51:37
growth. I did not know this, in
January 2014. That's the year of
1:51:44
the Maidan push that's when the
United States primarily took
1:51:47
over the entire country. The
very first engineers walked into
1:51:51
the brand new Boeing Engineering
and Technology Center in Kyiv,
1:51:55
Ukraine a decade later, Kyiv is
home to almost 1200 engineers.
1:52:01
Together they support
engineering for almost all
1:52:03
Boeing's commercial platforms.
Initially, the site start
1:52:08
operations no more than 50
engineers focusing on
1:52:10
engineering products related to
the second generation 737 and
1:52:13
the Boeing 757. What are the
chances that some of these some
1:52:19
of these things are coming out
of Ukraine? And 10 years 10
1:52:23
years of Boeing and Ukraine? Did
you know this?
1:52:26
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't
until you just said it right
1:52:28
now. I didn't know it.
1:52:30
Unknown: I mean, that's really
the cause. Why are
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: we sending them
any jets? Why don't they just
1:52:34
make some f 30 fives right there
in Ukraine. Boeing,
1:52:38
Adam Curry: they do the seven
sevens, the triple seven triple
1:52:41
7x, the 737 that they do the 787
program, as well as payload
1:52:46
designed for 737 and triple
seven and the Eco demonstrator,
1:52:50
whatever. The local Boeing team
made the courageous decision to
1:52:53
continue their work during the
war. Boeing global is providing
1:52:57
unwavering support ensuring the
safety. I mean, come on. It's
1:53:02
like that's the last thing you'd
expect that Boeing has been
1:53:04
there for. They're celebrating
10 years. We're not being told
1:53:09
anything. This is not news that
you're watching people stop it
1:53:13
and get off social media. Of
1:53:15
John C Dvorak: course a day
taken bomb the ant and off
1:53:17
plant. Yeah, which makes a
better jet and Boeing
1:53:22
Adam Curry: is got more engines.
Alright, here's, here's my final
1:53:29
climate change clip is just a,
it's a classic because he brings
1:53:33
back some super tropes that we
love. It's Christiane Amanpour,
1:53:38
the globalist on CNN
International with her fellow
1:53:43
globalist Al Gore.
1:53:44
Unknown: So I just want to ask
you, you know, James Hansen, the
1:53:47
NASA expert, who was one of the
first on climate warnings, has
1:53:52
warned that, you know, unless
there's some massively radical
1:53:55
thing to happen very soon, the
magic 1.5 degrees number will,
1:54:01
you know, will be surpassed? And
there seems to be a struggle
1:54:05
over the experts over that.
Where do you come down on that?
1:54:09
Adam Curry: I like how she talks
about the magic 1.5 number.
1:54:12
That's kind of a setup Matt's
magic number. Yeah.
1:54:15
John C Dvorak: Which is exactly
right. Yeah. Right. Language.
1:54:18
Adam Curry: magic number. Well,
I
1:54:19
Unknown: have the deepest
respect for Jim Hanson. And also
1:54:22
for his colleagues who have a
slightly different view. I agree
1:54:26
on most things, you know, half
of Oh, calendar days and 2023
1:54:31
were actually above 1.5. And in
November, there were two days
1:54:36
above a two degree Oh, Narcan
above the pre industrial
1:54:40
temperature. So yes, we were
running out of time to solve
1:54:45
this in time. But and we're
running some unacceptably high
1:54:50
risks with large global systems
that are important for the
1:54:55
flourishing of humanity that are
now
1:54:59
Adam Curry: another left Oh,
1:55:00
Unknown: hey allies. So the
sooner the better. The issue
1:55:04
you're referring to is over how
sensitive the climate is to more
1:55:09
and more greenhouse gas
pollution. And now, ultimately,
1:55:13
they agree on far more than they
disagree. They're all saying the
1:55:17
same thing. We got to switch
away from fossil fuels as
1:55:20
quickly as possible and stop
using the sky as an open sewer.
1:55:24
That's the basic problem. He's
back to the sky as an open sewer
1:55:27
or putting 162 million tons up
there every day. And the
1:55:31
accumulated amount it stays on
average each molecule for about
1:55:35
100 years, and the accumulated
amount today, Christiane is
1:55:39
trapping as much extra heat as
would be released by 750,000.
1:55:46
Hiroshima class Oppenheimer era,
atomic bombs exploding on the
1:55:50
Earth every single day,
1:55:52
Adam Curry: he's expanded into
Oppenheimer era. This is
1:55:54
beautiful owl.
1:55:56
Unknown: I love it. Well, he
1:55:58
John C Dvorak: gets a movie
reference in Yeah. Oh, yeah. So
1:56:01
for Dummies out there who don't
know anything about Hiroshima
1:56:05
via Hiroshima, the old bomb and
all the rest of it. We have to
1:56:09
bring in the movie reference so
you dummies can understand what
1:56:12
I'm trying to talk about here.
Nobody's listening to me.
1:56:19
Adam Curry: 750,000 Hiroshima
Oppenheimer era bombs a day. I
1:56:25
want that on a t shirt.
1:56:28
Unknown: It's beautiful. Al
Gore, Al Gore.
1:56:33
John C Dvorak: God love them.
1:56:33
Adam Curry: Hey, all we need is
a price on carbon. Once we get
1:56:36
that price on carbon, we're good
to go.
1:56:38
John C Dvorak: Then everybody
can shut up.
1:56:40
Adam Curry: Did I? Did I tell
you do we talk about the fact
1:56:42
that the IRS has, has had
they've created some rules,
1:56:50
they've stopped a lot of them.
But if you have a company, it
1:56:55
could also just be an LLC. If
you do something that creates
1:56:59
carbon credits, you can sell
those. So you don't have to be
1:57:03
you know, you don't have to be a
big corporation. You can be a
1:57:06
small LLC. And you can I'm going
to plant some trees that we've
1:57:10
talked about this strategy
before. Yeah, I'd like 10 years
1:57:13
ago. Yeah. But but now they've
they've they are allowing it
1:57:16
that you can sell your your
energy tax credits to any other
1:57:22
company. Yeah,
1:57:23
John C Dvorak: they're trying to
list a mechanism
1:57:26
Adam Curry: that they want. I'm
sure that they'll have some
1:57:28
exchange. I don't know. But but
there's this this is from the
1:57:32
tax guys who are telling me
this.
1:57:34
John C Dvorak: And this is all
it might be on the bush but that
1:57:36
doesn't mean you can do it.
1:57:39
Adam Curry: Well, it's it says
it right there and I'd have to
1:57:43
look it up because it was a
couple of shows ago I guess we
1:57:45
didn't talk about it. But yeah,
this is part of the inflation
1:57:48
Reduction Act which is you know,
you get half of half of anything
1:57:52
that you that you do you get tax
credit for. So if you just buy a
1:57:57
car like an Eevee you don't
really have to you don't have to
1:57:59
use the Eevee you can write off
half of it in tax credits. Don't
1:58:05
even have to drive it it says it
1:58:13
I don't think inflation is going
to come down anytime soon. I
1:58:16
think we're in for are they
talking about? Oh, we'll be
1:58:21
cutting interest rates. Oh, now
it'd be March oh, maybe it may I
1:58:24
don't think it's going to happen
at all.
1:58:26
John C Dvorak: I don't think
they should be cutting them now.
1:58:28
They should be raising the
economy's going the way Biden
1:58:30
claims which is watching Welker
on that show oh my god, you
1:58:36
know, the things are so going so
well. We got no interest, no
1:58:39
inflation and no unemployment.
Everything's the best economy
1:58:42
ever. I don't understand why
that people don't see this and
1:58:45
vote for Joe
1:58:48
Adam Curry: I got an angry
message about our millennial Gen
1:58:54
Z. Oh, there's so many so many
beautiful emails we received
1:58:57
from
1:58:57
John C Dvorak: tons of good mail
for the Gen Z's like to write
1:59:01
Yes,
1:59:01
Adam Curry: they are very long
and they and some of them love
1:59:04
their job and you know, they
they they just grind away and
1:59:08
the things that they were hoping
they would
1:59:10
Unknown: they would do love my
job and I love what I do.
1:59:14
Adam Curry: The things they were
hoping to get into now that you
1:59:16
know they're just doing it as a
hobby and they have the bought
1:59:19
homes and they don't live in
cities and and they watch Little
1:59:23
House on the Prairie. But, but I
got I got this one from this
1:59:31
one. One person who was like it
was you know, boots on the
1:59:36
ground how bad the job market
actually is. I work construction
1:59:41
had to leave the job. My boss
was violently attacked my mother
1:59:44
I got a job as a cashier. My
boss ghosted me after I was
1:59:48
hospitalized with like, just
horrible story. And so I write
1:59:51
back and I say, Well, you know,
that's that's not really much. I
1:59:55
mean, you've had some bad
breaks, but it's not like that
1:59:57
doesn't happen to lots of
people. and I get the message
2:00:00
back. You and John are a couple
of old pussies. You would have
2:00:04
hung yourself a long time ago in
my shoes. Okay, well that kind
2:00:09
of ended that conversation.
2:00:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you got the
wrong guy in dialogue.
2:00:14
Adam Curry: That's right all
right let's send everybody now
2:00:16
it's time for a three by three
it's been around and by Jesse de
2:00:21
air we are hearing stories from
ABC CBS the never ending never
2:00:29
ending three by three which
means we have a three by three
2:00:31
and a plus and we're going to
see just how program the news is
2:00:35
of course this flows through to
your social media. It's all the
2:00:38
clips you see Megyn Kelly will
get all upset about it and
2:00:41
remember code bond Gino at
checkout
2:00:46
John C Dvorak: store with Mary
Bruce at ABC. Oh nice
2:00:50
Unknown: night the powerful
retaliation promised unleashing
2:00:53
a major Counter Strike on Iran
backed militants in Iraq and
2:00:57
Syria, a direct response to the
drone attack that killed three
2:01:01
American soldiers and injured
more than 40 on a remote US base
2:01:05
in Jordan, the US saying the
airstrikes began at 4pm Hitting
2:01:09
85 targets in seven locations
inside Iraq and Syria, including
2:01:14
command and control operation
centers and intelligence hubs,
2:01:18
taking out rockets missiles and
attack drones belonging to
2:01:21
militia groups. And there are
Iranian sponsors who facilitated
2:01:24
attacks against US and coalition
forces. The US dropping more
2:01:29
than 125 precision munitions
from multiple aircraft,
2:01:33
including b one bombers that
flew from the US President Biden
2:01:37
tonight saying this is the first
wave of a response that will
2:01:41
continue at times and places of
our choosing. And warning the
2:01:45
United States does not seek
conflict in the Middle East or
2:01:48
anywhere else in the world. But
let all those who might seek to
2:01:52
do us harm. Know this. If you
harm an American, we will
2:01:57
respond. Notably, none of
today's strikes hit Iran
2:02:00
directly. The President remains
concerned not wanting to start a
2:02:05
wider war. Just hours before a
powerful reminder of the weight
2:02:09
of these decisions. The
President performing one of his
2:02:12
most solemn duties as commander
in chief witnessing the
2:02:16
dignified transfer of the three
service members killed in
2:02:19
Jordan, one by one their flag
draped cases carefully carried
2:02:24
across the tarmac. The President
placing his hand over his heart
2:02:28
alongside the First Lady and
defense secretary Austen
2:02:32
honoring the Fallen you know
2:02:34
Adam Curry: what gets me about
this? It's like if you hurt an
2:02:38
American, we're going to come
and get you with our b one
2:02:41
bombers. How about the fentanyl?
We all recognize where it comes
2:02:44
from? How about Gonzalo Lyra?
Now the guy who would Ukrainians
2:02:50
kills him? It's so disingenuous.
Yes. Because
2:02:54
John C Dvorak: you're right. The
whole thing is that facade is
2:02:56
bullcrap. And by the way, don't
most of these ceremonies when
2:03:00
these when do when they come
over a drape and right out of
2:03:02
the thing they have the families
are there. They didn't have I
2:03:06
remember the families there
because I remembered the time
2:03:08
during it. They didn't have
families there. No, it was just
2:03:12
Biden and red flag, the phony
Lloyd off the flag and and the
2:03:19
wife. But you remember that
because usually the families
2:03:23
that are because I remember that
one time there's a bunch of
2:03:25
people that came over and
Hillary was the Secretary of
2:03:28
State and, and a woman I think
we had a clip of it the woman
2:03:30
who was she said Hillary's so
cold it was like it was like
2:03:33
hugging a lizard. You know, she
went on and on about it.
2:03:38
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. I remember
that. It's
2:03:41
John C Dvorak: like, where's the
families? Ah, which brings me I
2:03:45
always even bring that up is
because you brought up yes made
2:03:48
whole thing may be AI. I'm only
it's I hate to theater.
2:03:54
Adam Curry: I hate to think. And
you of course, if there's a
2:03:57
family that that is grieving
over their service folk, then
2:04:03
that's horrible. But if they
weren't even there, that doesn't
2:04:06
make it. We have we have
military people. They'll tell me
2:04:10
what's going on. You know? Isn't
the family by definition flown
2:04:15
in for this?
2:04:16
John C Dvorak: I always thought
they were I don't know. I mean,
2:04:18
most of the time I've seen this
event, which they don't like to
2:04:21
show anymore. They stopped doing
it after the Vietnam War. But
2:04:23
they did it this time as a photo
op for Biden, obviously. Yeah.
2:04:28
Even though he has such a look
on his face. They can't use the
2:04:30
photo op for anything. Just like
he's he has a grimace on his
2:04:35
face. Like he doesn't like being
there or something. It was very
2:04:39
Adam Curry: Wow, it's
2:04:40
John C Dvorak: very well let's
go back to the three by three
2:04:44
and let's move to NBC with Peter
Alexander. Oh,
2:04:47
Adam Curry: I hope we have a
launch sound.
2:04:50
Unknown: The American
retaliatory strikes have begun
2:04:53
US Central Command saying late
this evening, US forces began
2:04:56
striking more than 85 targets in
Iraq and Syria. Syria using
2:05:01
numerous aircraft including long
range bombers flown from the US
2:05:05
the targets Iran's Islamic
Revolutionary Guard Quds Force
2:05:08
and affiliated militia groups
hitting their command and
2:05:11
control operations centers and
intelligence centers, rockets
2:05:15
and missiles and unmanned air
vehicle storage among other
2:05:19
sites. President Biden tonight
saying our response began today
2:05:23
he will continue at times and
places of our choosing, adding
2:05:26
let all those who might seek to
do us harm know this, if you
2:05:30
harm an American, we will
respond to us strikes common
2:05:34
response to that deadly drone
attack by Iranian backed
2:05:37
militias that struck tower 22, a
desert outpost in Jordan,
2:05:41
killing three US service members
that attack among more than 160
2:05:46
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I gotta
stop this. Have you in any of
2:05:49
these reports or any report?
Have you heard the names of
2:05:52
these three service members?
Yeah, you have heard the names?
2:05:57
Yeah,
2:05:57
John C Dvorak: yeah, they read
the names off on a couple of
2:05:59
shows Okay,
2:06:00
Unknown: killing three US
service members that attack
2:06:03
among more than 160 against
American targets by Iranian
2:06:07
backed militias since October,
President Biden had previously
2:06:11
authorized limited strikes in
response that even he
2:06:13
acknowledged had not deterred
the militias, and the President
2:06:16
has been under pressure to
respond more forcefully,
2:06:19
especially after American
service members were killed. All
2:06:23
of it just hours after the
commander in chief performed one
2:06:25
of his most solemn duties
attending the dignified transfer
2:06:29
at Dover Air Force Base, as the
remains of those three US
2:06:32
service members returned home.
The President and First Lady
2:06:35
joining the grieving families of
46 year old Sergeant William
2:06:38
rivers, a soldier. They
2:06:41
Adam Curry: say that they draw
pictures
2:06:43
John C Dvorak: of them standing
I didn't see any family people
2:06:45
but okay if he says so they made
me they were
2:06:48
Unknown: the President and First
Lady joining the grieving
2:06:50
families of 46 year old Sergeant
William rivers, a soldier
2:06:54
soldier, his cousin said 24 year
old sergeant Kennedy Sanders,
2:06:58
whose family said she was always
full of life and 23 year old
2:07:02
sergeant Brianna Moffitt, her
parents remembering how she
2:07:05
could light up a room for us
today also launching preemptive
2:07:09
strikes on the Iranian backed
Houthis.
2:07:12
Adam Curry: All I see is
pictures of them with other
2:07:14
service personnel. People in
uniform I don't see necessarily
2:07:21
with families but okay, I mean,
I I don't want to harp on it too
2:07:24
much. But
2:07:24
John C Dvorak: either way he
also put it if you parsed it, he
2:07:27
could have been that Biden met
with the families elsewhere.
2:07:31
They weren't on the tarmac
necessarily. If you listen to
2:07:33
the way he presented that Yeah.
But whatever that was, Peter
2:07:40
Alexander and now we're gonna
move to Nancy Cordis. One of the
2:07:44
top rung of the reporters for
CBS, CBS, CBS,
2:07:48
Unknown: Pentagon officials say
to
2:07:50
Adam Curry: Oh, come on CBS. Is
that a NAT POP they start off
2:07:53
with like a like a little like a
little fart for the hour.
2:07:58
John C Dvorak: I think they
should. Just did I think they
2:08:02
put the sound in differently but
if I'm not mistaken, most of
2:08:05
these reports always showed the
B one bomber taking off. Which
2:08:09
is quite a pretty sight. I mean,
the B one bombers just a
2:08:12
beautiful pass no
2:08:13
Adam Curry: ands and off.
Pentagon officials
2:08:16
Unknown: to b one bombers were
among the military aircraft used
2:08:20
to strike more than 85 targets
in Iraq and Syria to the targets
2:08:25
included command and control
centers, weapons depots and
2:08:29
drone storage facilities, all of
them linked to Iran's
2:08:32
Revolutionary Guard and
affiliated militia groups or
2:08:36
their affiliates. The strikes
were approved by the President
2:08:39
and launched just a few hours
after he welcomed to the bodies
2:08:43
of three fallen service members
back to US soil three
2:08:47
Adam Curry: welcomed welcome
that this is this is disgusting.
2:08:51
Welcome back boys. Girl boys
Welcome back. Come on. He
2:08:56
Unknown: were stationed in
Georgia usage is dubious its
2:08:58
dubious by the President and
launched just a few hours after
2:09:02
he is welcomed into the bodies
of three fallen service members
2:09:05
back to US soil. All three were
stationed in Jordan at a US
2:09:10
outpost known as tower 22 That
came under fire last Sunday. I
2:09:15
Adam Curry: can tell you right
now there's going to be a movie
2:09:18
titled tower 22 It will be
Amazon Prime or Netflix
2:09:22
Unknown: the basis Well, you
2:09:23
John C Dvorak: know that the
title is self that's there.
2:09:26
Yeah. For the taking up too good
title
2:09:29
Unknown: bases air defense
system had been temporarily
2:09:32
taken offline to allow a US
drone to return from a mission
2:09:36
safely. An Iranian made drone
2:09:39
Adam Curry: this this is the
lie. This is the lie. With no it
2:09:45
came
2:09:45
Unknown: under fire last Sunday.
The basis air defense system had
2:09:49
been temporarily taken offline
to allow a US drone to return
2:09:54
from a mission safely. Okay, so
2:09:56
Adam Curry: I just want to know
what was this a helicopter drone
2:09:59
like Now a little bit more. And
why did you have to take your
2:10:03
air defense systems offline?
This is very this is very,
2:10:08
John C Dvorak: very I'm with
you. 100% Okay, and I said it
2:10:11
again I'll take 100 with you
99.9% and
2:10:15
Unknown: Iranian made us go
drone struck sleeping quarters
2:10:18
at the base, wounding 40 and
killing Army Reserves soldiers
2:10:23
will reverse. Brianna Moffat and
Kennedy Sanders. We know that
2:10:27
you can definitely feel our pain
President Biden called their
2:10:30
anguished families this week.
No, I really do now. I got a
2:10:36
phone call.
2:10:37
Adam Curry: This is Oh my god.
This is not this is not how you
2:10:43
do this. You don't air the phone
calls. Oh, let's do a zoom call
2:10:48
and let's release it to CBS.
2:10:52
John C Dvorak: And it's a good
point never surprise it cause it
2:10:54
should don't wouldn't go on the
air that is staged wrong.
2:11:01
Unknown: US officials blamed the
attack on the Islamic resistance
2:11:05
in Iraq and umbrella group of
Iran backed militias. I don't
2:11:09
think
2:11:11
the adversaries are a one and
done mindset. And so they have a
2:11:17
lot of capability. I have a lot
more wary
2:11:20
of setting off a wider war the
US has avoided striking Iran
2:11:24
directly despite at least 165
attacks on US forces in Iraq and
2:11:30
Syria since the Israel Hamas
conflict began last October.
2:11:36
Iran's President warned today we
will not start a war but if a
2:11:40
cruel Force wants to bully us
the Islamic Republic of Iran
2:11:44
will give a strong response
2:11:50
Adam Curry: this is some rocky
level crap there Pullman here is
2:11:54
dumb. I can't believe that I'm
I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. The
2:11:58
shame I'm ashamed. Ashamed of
this. Ashamed of what they're
2:12:02
doing ashamed of the reporting?
A shame that people watch it a
2:12:06
shame there's money in this.
Bring back Taylor Swift. That's
2:12:10
right
2:12:11
John C Dvorak: here we go with
the CBC. This is like the bonus
2:12:14
clip. And this is Chris. Oh, we
didn't do CBS yet. Now that was
2:12:17
CBS. That was yes. With a bad
net pop. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to
2:12:21
CBC and wrap this thing up at
4pm.
2:12:23
Unknown: Eastern Time, US
military forces struck more than
2:12:27
85 targets in Iraq and Syria.
The strikes were against Iranian
2:12:32
Revolutionary Guard targets and
other Iranian backed militia.
2:12:36
The facilities that were struck
included command and control
2:12:39
operation centers, intelligence
centers, rockets and missiles
2:12:43
and unmanned aerial vehicle
storages and logistics and
2:12:47
munition supply chain
facilities. Syrian state media
2:12:51
says the strikes hit near the
border between the two countries
2:12:54
and several people are dead used
in the attack. And again, this
2:12:58
is from US Central Command
aircraft, including long range
2:13:01
bombers flown from the US, as
well as 125 smart weapons
2:13:06
capable of precise target hits.
US President Joe Biden said then
2:13:12
Paul, that the US will respond.
And today the President is in
2:13:16
his home in Delaware after
spending the afternoon at Dover
2:13:19
Air Force Base at a ceremony for
those fallen soldiers. Well,
2:13:23
speaking of Biden, then any word
on this from the White House.
2:13:27
The President just issued a
statement, Paul shortly after
2:13:30
the strikes, he said in part and
let me just read it to you
2:13:32
exactly as it is written this
afternoon at my direction US
2:13:36
military forces struck targets
at facilities in Iraq and Syria
2:13:41
that the IRGC and affiliated
militia used to attack us
2:13:45
forces. Our response began
today, it will continue at times
2:13:49
and places of our choosing the
United States is not seek
2:13:53
conflict in the Middle East or
anywhere else in the world. But
2:13:56
let all those who might seek to
do us harm know this. If you
2:14:00
harm an American, we will
respond. Defense Secretary Lloyd
2:14:04
Austin added to that in his own
statement, Paul, he said the
2:14:09
President and I will not
tolerate attacks on American
2:14:11
forces we will take all
necessary actions to defend the
2:14:15
United States our forces and our
interest
2:14:20
John C Dvorak: which again
brings up your point about what
2:14:23
about that journalist guy
character that's been detained
2:14:27
in Ukraine? Oh,
2:14:28
Adam Curry: he was killed he was
he died in prison.
2:14:31
John C Dvorak: I know he died
yeah. Oh, yeah. This
2:14:33
Adam Curry: is a weeks ago.
Yeah.
2:14:34
John C Dvorak: So then okay, so
they don't care what we do about
2:14:37
that? Nothing we okay. Now
2:14:39
Adam Curry: we don't care. No,
but but we know we have to do we
2:14:41
have to spend months and months
and months crying about what's
2:14:46
that guy, the journalist The
Washington Post journalist.
2:14:50
Khashoggi
2:14:51
John C Dvorak: show shogi.
Wasn't even an American. Then
2:14:55
Adam Curry: we didn't go over
and blow up. Voice in America.
2:14:58
Well, that's why we didn't go
blow up. So Saudi Arabia
2:15:02
John C Dvorak: well there's
probably other reasons we didn't
2:15:03
blow up Saudi I'm just
2:15:04
Adam Curry: gonna say this is
all this is all theater am and I
2:15:09
don't know the I'm still reeling
over the fact that Israel
2:15:13
somehow let guys come over with
motor gliders and then defense
2:15:17
was open the military industrial
complex writ large is out of
2:15:22
control and they don't care
2:15:29
John C Dvorak: I think the don't
care part is like I think they
2:15:32
do care and they and I think
your earlier thesis or I'm sorry
2:15:36
hypothesis hypothesis
2:15:38
Adam Curry: yes was
2:15:40
John C Dvorak: about once they
know once Trump gets in this is
2:15:44
the game might be spin spin spin
as have some finalist rack up
2:15:48
the money, fatten up the bank
account set up a Swiss account
2:15:51
list is ready to party. When
Trump comes in with all