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John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern
Silicon Valley where we don't
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want to call them migrants
anymore. I'm John Cena Morag
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Adam Curry: buzzkill you know
this their asylum seekers that's
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the that's the official name
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John C Dvorak: actually the
official name oh,
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Adam Curry: but maybe in
California? No,
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John C Dvorak: no it is Denver.
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Adam Curry: Denver wherever I
was gonna say California light
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please.
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John C Dvorak: Denver California
heavy Yeah,
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Adam Curry: sure. Yeah.
California heavy everybody
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shifts California heavy we're
coming in light
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John C Dvorak: Yes. Apparently
the term migrant is not good. So
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we're going to change it to even
though it should be illegal
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immigrant or illegal alien if
you haven't heard
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Adam Curry: illegal alien was
what it was first that was that
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was
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John C Dvorak: that was what it
was first stuff. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: back in the day.
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John C Dvorak: They're gonna
change it to new immigrant.
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Adam Curry: Oh, oh, it's it's
the newcomers. Why don't we just
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call them that the newcomers?
Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Creepy science
fiction movie. It wasn't
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Adam Curry: that V.
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John C Dvorak: Maybe visitors
the visitors knew maybe it was
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V. newcomers. Newcomers and the
visitors
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Adam Curry: make room make room
for the newcomers make room but
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to newcomers
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John C Dvorak: hear you out?
Well? Isn't this what they claim
1:53
that the is Israelis did to the
Palestinians take the newcomers
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and then push the other ones
out? Is that what they'd been
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doing here with these guys? I
don't see the difference if
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they're going to use that
analogy.
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Adam Curry: Well, if that's
where you want to start today,
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then I think we should go
straight to
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John C Dvorak: never said that.
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Adam Curry: I think we should go
Good.
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John C Dvorak: Good segue though
I really appreciate the
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professionalism.
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Adam Curry: Well, let's let's go
straight to MSNBC, which is
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Denver, Denver heavy. And Chris
Hayes showed talking to AOC with
2:30
our, our actress, or actress
come House representative for
2:35
New York. And she lays it out
very clear and simple. What this
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is really about.
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Unknown: And you tweeted this
because I've been maddened by
2:46
the discussion of immigrants,
which basically I feel like the
2:48
entire discussion is they're
coming to get your stuff. slices
2:53
of pizza in America and every
one of
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John C Dvorak: them again be
your home. I just more advanced
3:01
warning. All right. Who used to
work whoever uses the word Matt
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and I maddened by this, look at
the guy angered. I've heard
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people say, angered. It irks me.
That's what I say. Just look at
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credit. I'm mad, and that's
pretentious.
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Adam Curry: Okay, I'll give that
one to you. But you know, he's
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with AOC. So it kind of I'm mad.
And aren't you? I've
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John C Dvorak: imagined by this,
aren't you, Daphne.
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Unknown: And you tweeted this
because I've been maddened by
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the discussion of events, which
basically, I feel like I think
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Adam Curry: this is a very good
observation. He's going mad.
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That's what it is. I'm mad. I'm
mad. He's not angry. He's going
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mad. I'm going back
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Unknown: tire discussion is
they're coming to take your
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stuff. There's like only seven
slices of pizza in America. And
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everyone that comes is going to
take one of those Hold on a
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second.
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Adam Curry: How many slices are
there in a pizza? Why
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John C Dvorak: wouldn't he seven
has never
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Adam Curry: seen a seven slice
piece. You
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Unknown: can't do it? You know?
4:05
Adam Curry: It makes no sense.
It's going to be eight slices.
4:08
John C Dvorak: It could be two
slices. Yes. It could be could
4:10
be four slices. I mean, you
could but it's always gonna be
4:14
multiples of two.
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Adam Curry: All right, now we
are meeting Okay, let's keep
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going
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Unknown: here. They're coming to
take your stuff. There's like
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only seven slices of pizza in
America. And everyone that comes
4:25
is going to take one of those
slices and you're not going to
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have any. And the Congressional
Budget Office basically said
4:29
today, look, we're readjusting
our projection GDP does.
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Adam Curry: You've got me on a
roll here. Does the
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Congressional Budget Office
literally say, look, is that is
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John C Dvorak: that how did I
know? They start their reports?
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He look gross,
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Unknown: up by 7 trillion. And
also, we're reviewing the US
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government money to reduce the
deficit by a trillion because of
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immigration, higher net
emigration and
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we're not talking about you Free
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John C Dvorak: Money oh wait for
oh, you
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Adam Curry: wait for wait for
the next clip you
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Unknown: started this all about
the net positives immigrants
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bring to this country.
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Adam Curry: All right net
positives hit it AOC
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Unknown: Absolutely it is
actually low lay completely
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nonsensical that we do not talk
about the enormous blessing.
5:18
Economic blessing was that
immigrants and immigration
5:22
represents the United States of
America. And a lot of folks
5:25
sometimes think that this is
just a certain kind of immigrant
5:29
call, right like college
educated or tech technical visa
5:33
is all immigrants that we're
seeing this is the CBO estimate,
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immigration writ large, writ
large, yielding enormous
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economic benefits to the United
States.
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Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute.
I'm feeling slavery coming on.
5:46
Unknown: And let's bring this
out even finer. If you are a
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caregiver, if you are a baby
boomer, if you are someone that
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cares for
5:57
Adam Curry: you see, if you're a
baby boomer, this is for you
5:59
this information for someone
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John C Dvorak: who's gonna need
a nurse or a nurse to take care
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of me and rob me aging,
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Unknown: we currently do not
have the economic or social
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structural capacity to take care
of our seniors. And we will
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increasingly not have that if we
quote unquote, lock up our
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border and shut down shut down
immigration. In fact, the thing
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that has distinguished US
economic performance from other
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countries like Japan, or other,
you know, or other developed
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economies, is the fact that our
pro immigration policies
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actually allow us to continue in
our economic growth, whereas
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similar countries with anti or
more kind of closed border
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policies, experienced economic
stagnation when they submit
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themselves to this xenophobic
kind of border panic narrative
6:53
that Fox News, frankly, seeks to
peddle and instill in so many
6:57
people.
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John C Dvorak: All right now, by
the way, this she account for
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the fact that these stagnant
countries like oh, let's say
7:05
Japan just bought us steel out
from under us. I guess that
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doesn't matter. All
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Adam Curry: right. So before I
get to my next clip, let's just
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remind ourselves with the what
the former New York banker said,
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Adam, we don't have to be
worried about China. They are
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declining in population, as long
as we keep adding people we win.
7:26
Now
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John C Dvorak: that I've said
it, I said again, I said before,
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if China is in such a bad state,
because of the declining
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population, how come about 40%
of the youth of China can't get
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work? Well, the sitting there
rain, we're waiting for jobs.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Aren't you
saying the same thing?
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John C Dvorak: No, no, the
argument is that because China's
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declining population, that means
that means that the they're
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going to be overworked to pay
for
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, it's about printing
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money. The more people we have,
the more money we get to print
8:03
for him through all kinds of
great plans and ultimately going
8:07
to universal basic income. This
this is this is the plan. Now,
8:13
in the United States, HSBC just
came out with global research.
8:18
Pop actually this is for all
developed economies. They
8:22
predict the population of all
developed economies will be cut
8:26
in half by 2100. And it notes a
very sharp decline starting in
8:31
2021. What happens with less
babies made I'm not quite sure
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we should have had we should be
having a baby boom right now.
8:39
After all the lock downs,
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John C Dvorak: we're having
sudden deaths
8:43
Adam Curry: is exactly the
opposite. Now, to back up what
8:47
AOC says let's go to Chairman of
the Federal Reserve our central
8:52
bank money printer go burr guy
on 60 minutes. Now remember, he
8:57
doesn't set policy, but he's
really happy with it. What
9:01
Unknown: are the important
factors that caused the labor
9:03
market to stabilize? Why
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Adam Curry: not this This comes
on the heels of an unbelievably
9:08
good jobs report? Like twice as
much as expected? Which I don't
9:15
know how that happened.
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John C Dvorak: All I all I
fudged the numbers. Okay,
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Adam Curry: so All right. So I
think it's government jobs. I
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think it's maybe Saudi
government just some people
9:25
taking third jobs. But but but
listen to what Powell says it's
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it's truly unbelievable. What
are the important factors
9:34
Unknown: that caused the labor
market to stabilize one was just
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a return of workers with several
million people were just gone
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from the labor force for
whatever reason, many of them
9:44
didn't want to go back to their
old jobs because of COVID or
9:47
because they just didn't want to
be there and moved on with their
9:49
lives so so
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Adam Curry: like, I'm not gonna
work I'm just moving on with my
9:54
life here. I'm not gonna work in
moving moving on with my life
9:58
yet. This is so great want to
9:59
Unknown: be there and move on
with their lives. So, so there
10:01
was a desperate shortage of
workers. And what happened is we
10:04
expected people to come right
back into the workforce in 2022.
10:09
They mostly didn't. And then and
then we thought, well, maybe
10:12
that's not going to happen. And
then it happened in 2023, we had
10:15
a combination of rising labor
force participation in prime age
10:20
workers. And we also had with
that we had a resumption of
10:23
immigration. So there was really
no immigration net in or very
10:27
little, during the pandemic, but
10:29
Adam Curry: it still kind of
makes me wonder, like, you know,
10:31
if we had no net emigration
during the pandemic, maybe they
10:34
have to catch up. And maybe
that's what we're seeing, like,
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open up as wide as possible
boys, we need to get them in.
10:40
Unknown: In 2023, we saw
immigration move back up to the
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levels that would have been
normal before the pandemic. And
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those two things together, made
a real difference in labor
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supply. So it's really a supply
story. That's the main thing I
10:56
would point to while he was
immigration important, because
10:59
immigrants come in and they tend
to work at a rate that is at or
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above that for, for non
immigrants. Now,
11:05
Adam Curry: let me try labor.
Let me let me translate what he
11:07
just said. They're better than
you. They tend to work. Of
11:12
course, in the jobs that AOC
wants them to be in. And they
11:16
work at about or a little bit
above, they do a little bit
11:19
better than you would wipe in
John's but immigration
11:21
Unknown: important because
immigrants come in and they tend
11:24
to work at a rate that is at or
above that for, for non
11:28
immigrants, or immigrants who
come to the country tend to be
11:31
in the workforce at a slightly
higher level than Americans do.
11:35
But that's largely because
11:36
John C Dvorak: of the age
second, why does they just say
11:39
it? They work cheaper.
11:42
Adam Curry: It's coming. It's
coming cool than
11:44
Unknown: Americans do. But
that's largely because of the
11:46
age difference, they tend to
skew younger. Why is immigration
11:50
so important to the economy?
First of all, immigration policy
11:54
is some is not the Feds job. We
don't say immigration policy. We
11:57
don't comment on it. I will say
over time, though dominate us
12:01
has benefited from immigration.
And frankly, just in the last
12:04
year, a big part of the story of
the labor market coming back
12:08
into better balance is
immigration. Returning to levels
12:13
that were more typical of the
pre pandemic era, the country
12:16
needed the workers. It did
12:18
Adam Curry: that we just needed
the workers. You're not good
12:21
enough. You're too old. You're
too expensive. And you're not
12:24
Yeah, they do just a little bit
better. That's the message there
12:28
it is.
12:29
John C Dvorak: Better equals
cheaper. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
12:31
Adam Curry: of course. So we had
man no sooner had a marked up
12:35
and
12:35
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
I'm sticking with another thing.
12:38
So job I had these clips from
the last show. I want you to
12:43
play this clip. Because this is
just like irksome to listen to.
12:48
Let me see if I can find it.
Hold on one second. Is Biden's
12:56
look for Biden? Is not on that.
When a
13:00
Adam Curry: show comes to a
screeching halt?
13:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
sorry. But Biden did the thing
13:05
is is Biden's going on. Okay.
I'll just reiterate, reiterate
13:09
it. Biden is going on and on
about how graded he is labor
13:13
unions. The UAW approved him
because
13:17
Unknown: I haven't I haven't I
have your clip.
13:19
United Auto Workers President
Shawn fain last week. Yep,
13:23
delivered a fiery speech in
Washington to endorse Biden, he
13:27
told Face the Nation Sunday why
he chose Biden over Trump.
13:31
President
13:31
Adam Curry: Biden has always bet
on the American worker and stood
13:34
with the American worker. And he
proved that during this
13:37
presidency, the Chinese worker
and
13:42
John C Dvorak: the American
worker so let's bring more
13:44
immigrants in to get take jobs
away from WHO? The American
13:48
worker, how does this make sense
to the UAW guy should be ashamed
13:51
of himself, I was a twice member
of the United Auto Workers on
13:55
withdrawal. And I would it's
shameful how they went from a
14:00
very good union to guy like,
just a corrupt classic, old
14:04
fashioned union.
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Adam Curry: Right. So all we're
seeing here, and it's really
14:09
interesting, because on the last
show, we talked about how the
14:13
Republicans are all on the
borders open. This is no good
14:16
you know, you got to the
Democrats suck Biden sucks
14:20
borders open border border
border border, not saying it's
14:22
not true. And the Democrats like
war, war war, Iran, we're gonna
14:25
get some war. Now. They're going
into each other's camp. And
14:29
we've got we we've got Biden
blaming Trump, that the whole
14:35
the whole media is of course
blaming Trump for this is all
14:38
Trump's fault. Why is it Trump's
fault? Because Trump doesn't
14:42
want the Republicans to fix
anything.
14:45
Unknown: All indications are
this bill won't even move
14:47
forward to the Senate floor. Why
isn't Donald Trump because
14:54
Donald Trump thinks is bad for
him politically, he'd rather
14:57
weaponize this issue than
actually solve it. Trump and
15:00
Maga Republicans said no.
Because they're afraid of Donald
15:04
Trump. fray to Donald Trump,
Republic step to the side, who
15:09
do they serve? Donald Trump, but
American people, every day
15:14
between now and November, the
American people are going to
15:16
know that the only reason the
border is not secure is Donald
15:20
Trump. And my Republican
friends, folks, we've got to
15:24
move past this toxic politics.
All right.
15:26
John C Dvorak: So before you
continue, it did go to the
15:29
Senate floor. I have all this.
Okay. But
15:33
Adam Curry: I wanted to step
back a second and say no sooner
15:36
had I marked up the 320 pages of
HR 815, which was the House
15:42
version of the of the Senate
Bill. Then they blew this.
15:47
John C Dvorak: That's not true.
15:49
Unknown: Okay.
15:50
John C Dvorak: These the Senate
Bill was separate the House bill
15:53
was separate. They were not a
house. It wasn't a version of
15:55
the of the Centreville. Okay,
it's not it was its own bill,
15:58
its
15:59
Adam Curry: own bill, which by
the way, was, you know how this
16:03
is so cool how they do this. So
they they put this bill in HR
16:06
15. I'll get to the Senate bill
in a second. And hr 15 is meant
16:11
to amend title 38, United States
Code to make certain
16:14
improvements relating to the
eligibility of veterans to
16:17
receive reimbursement for
emergency treatment furnish
16:19
through the veterans community
care program, and for other
16:22
purposes. So they literally
takes take something that was a
16:27
bill that was I guess, on the
floor, and they just take all of
16:29
that out. And then and then turn
it into the emergency National
16:34
Security supplemental
appropriations act of 2024. Oh,
16:38
my God, this thing was, was it
this was a military bill. I
16:44
mean, it's for submarine bases.
I mean, we're part of the the
16:49
border part was, we need $2
billion to give to countries. So
16:54
when we send people back, they
can repatriate them. Can you
16:58
imagine how insane that is? So
we're sending people back that
17:02
who came in illegally, but we're
gonna give all these countries
17:05
$2 billion to catch them. So
they don't run into trouble. I
17:09
mean, it's I mean, we're giving
it to Venezuela. And this whole,
17:13
but I marked it out for anyone
who wants to take a look at it.
17:16
It's useless now, of course, but
I kind of knew that was going to
17:19
happen. So here's the bipartisan
bill that died.
17:23
Unknown: The bipartisan bill to
strengthen the border and
17:26
provide aid for Ukraine and
Israel died in the Senate
17:29
Wednesday, Senate
17:30
Republicans have looked more and
more like their house
17:33
counterparts and transform
themselves into the chaos
17:37
caucus.
17:38
Senators on both sides of the
aisle spent more than four
17:41
months negotiating the details.
17:43
I knew from the beginning. It's
not going to be perfect. But we
17:45
also knew the status quo was
untenable. Despite
17:48
Republican leadership backing
the compromise many of the rank
17:51
and file were dead set against
it.
17:54
I think a Republican
17:56
leader should actually lead this
conference and should advance
17:59
the priorities of Republicans.
18:01
The final straw came when former
President Donald Trump slammed
18:04
the efforts.
18:05
It turns out, border security is
not actually a risk to our
18:09
national security. It's just a
talking point for the election.
18:13
Even if the bill had passed in
the Senate Republicans in the
18:16
lower chamber of Congress
declared it dead on arrival in
18:19
the house. Republicans are not
passing the bill to address the
18:23
border. But they're still
planning to impeach Homeland
18:26
Security Secretary Alejandro
Mayorkas for his handling of the
18:30
immigration issue. The yeas are
214 and the nays are 260. The
18:35
resolution is not a golfer, even
though they failed to impeach
18:39
him on the first vote Tuesday
night Mayorkas
18:41
needs to be held accountable
divine administration needs to
18:43
be held accountable. And we will
pass those articles of
18:45
impeachment
18:46
Republicans fell one vote short
Tuesday night. But they expect
18:50
to try again when Louisiana
Congressman Steve Scalise is
18:53
healthy enough to return to
work.
18:55
Adam Curry: Alright, so. So that
just this is all show stay away
19:00
from it. There's nothing to see
here. The fun stuff is in the
19:04
cities with the black mayors.
This is where it gets great.
19:08
Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Mr. Mayor, when you're gonna go
19:12
to the border and check it out.
We got trouble here. Mr. Mayor,
19:15
we got people sleeping
everywhere in our in our city.
19:18
We got migrants everywhere and
you give him money. Mr. Mayor,
19:21
what are you going to do? When
are you going to go to the
19:22
border and check it out and get
something done?
19:24
Unknown: I have children who
attend schools, we have soccer
19:27
games, Yo, you all are asking me
as if I'm not a parent in the
19:31
city. I get it a mayor. I get
it. But you're asking me to give
19:35
you a date. And I have to court?
Do you understand that you have
19:38
not had a mayor like me, I get
that. I have a wife. I have
19:41
children, they have schedules.
And plus, we still have public
19:45
safety that we have to address.
We still have the house that we
19:48
have to address. I still have a
budget that I have to address.
19:50
And I'm doing all of that with a
black wife raising three black
19:54
children on the west side of
Chicago. I'm going to the border
19:56
as soon as possible. Okay,
19:58
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
I'm black. Give me a break. What
20:01
was that? I mean, I'm sorry that
this is just crazy pay off like
20:09
the beginning where he says, I
know you're not used to a mayor
20:11
with kids, Larry Lightfoot. But
then he rolls into Hey, I got
20:16
schedules. I'm raising, I'm
raising three children schedule.
20:19
I got a black ones to do. And
then Mayor Adams in New York,
20:23
he's like, people don't like me.
You know why they don't like me
20:26
because I'm black.
20:27
Unknown: Have you ever seen this
much chocolate lead in the city
20:30
of New York? Line look, look
who's here. This is
20:37
representative of the city.
That's why people are hating on
20:42
me. You trying to figure out why
they're hating on me the hating
20:49
on me. Because those of you go
to church. Here we go. Man, this
20:55
is Matthew 21 and 12 moment
Jesus walked into temple he saw
20:59
him doing wrong in a temple. He
did what? I want to see you all
21:04
to turn the table over.
21:06
Adam Curry: All right, black
Jesus, everybody. There it is
21:08
black Jesus. He overturned the
tax tables apparently in City
21:12
Hall. This is this is very weak.
Mayor's is very, very weak. But
21:19
they're under pressure. Now
they're under pressure. They
21:21
can't they can't say anything
about because again, this is
21:26
that we don't need comprehensive
immigration reform. We've we've
21:29
kind of lost the whole idea that
we don't even need it. We can
21:32
just change. It's like no, stop
them. No, it's like, you know,
21:35
this is this is policy, not law.
The law is clear. Well, I'm
21:39
John C Dvorak: gonna go back.
I'm gonna go back to your that
21:42
Biden clip where he blames
Trump.
21:45
Adam Curry: Non stop is non
stop. This is this is Trump
21:48
thing. Yeah.
21:49
John C Dvorak: So I looked into
the Senate bill that did go to
21:53
the floor and did get voted down
50 to 49. Yeah. Do you know who
21:59
voted no. Chuck Schumer his own
bill? Yeah, he voted no, in his
22:07
own bill. But what really
happened is it would have
22:09
passed. Yeah, but the problem
was for Schumer is that a bunch
22:13
of the typical kind of dem dem
Republicans voted yes on it.
22:18
That includes you, Lee Lankford
of Oklahoma, Susan Collins of
22:22
Maine Murkowski and Mitt Romney.
They all voted yes. And so it
22:27
would have passed, it wouldn't
have passed with 60 votes, but
22:30
it would have passed and you
wouldn't have had the the Trump
22:33
Trump Trump stuff you wouldn't
have Biden's talking points. So
22:37
what Schumer did is he voted no,
and then got four of his lackeys
22:42
to also vote no, for no apparent
reason that includes Elizabeth
22:46
Warren voted no, Marquis Budhia
of California, who is the
22:50
substitute for Feinstein and he
has to do what he's told. So he
22:54
was told to vote no. So he did
and Menendez of New Jersey,
22:57
who's under indictment, who has
to do what Schumer tells him to?
23:01
So he could twist it. So it came
out 50 to 49. Exactly because he
23:05
had to account for all these
republicans who voted for the
23:08
bill to the thing was a scam
used as a publicity stunt. And
23:13
nobody knows that Schumer voted
no.
23:16
Adam Curry: Well, we couldn't we
can't report on that. There's
23:19
not
23:19
John C Dvorak: one report you
can come up with right Mensa
23:22
mentions that Schumer voted
against his own bill. No, of
23:25
course not.
23:26
Adam Curry: Of course not. And
Governor Abbott the globalists
23:32
just continues to views Eagle
Pass Texas as his theater du
23:36
jour Governor
23:37
Unknown: Greg Abbott will meet
with state representatives in
23:39
April pass all to discuss border
security. This all comes in
23:43
response to President Biden's
border policies, which Abbott of
23:47
course disagrees with. Prior to
the press conference, the
23:49
governor and Texas
representatives will receive a
23:52
briefing on Operation lone
star's mission to secure the
23:55
border. That meeting will take
place at Shelby Park, which was
23:58
once a busy area for illegal
crossings by migrants and where
24:02
the state's ag rejected a
request from the Biden
24:05
administration to grant federal
immigration officials full
24:08
access to that park.
24:10
Adam Curry: All right now I need
some help from you. I need help
24:13
understanding the thinking
behind the latest episode of NBC
24:18
Chicago Med. Which I would say
most of these programs are
24:24
propaganda. When you've played
so many clips from these types
24:27
of who produces this who
produces Chicago Med is another
24:30
West done
24:31
John C Dvorak: by Dick Wolf.
24:32
Adam Curry: So it's a Dick Wolf
production.
24:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So
24:34
Adam Curry: explain to me now
how he gets into these
24:37
storylines. Where we have Mr.
Martin gets gets hit by a car.
24:45
It's a car wreck. And he wants
to press charges because the man
24:49
that hit him is probably here
illegally.
24:52
Unknown: Officer. Are you here
to take my statement? Excuse me.
24:56
I want to press charges on that
guy right over there. I
24:58
overheard someone say that he
might Mp here illegally, I need
25:01
to make sure that doesn't affect
my insurance.
25:03
Adam Curry: I'll have someone
come speak to you, Mr. Martin.
25:05
Wade Martin. Okay. Give me a
minute. Thank you. All right, so
25:08
now we're gonna go to the
hospital because of course we
25:10
got the guy's wife in the
hospital and well, what wouldn't
25:13
you know it? You have a moment?
Yeah.
25:16
Unknown: It seems I'm in a bit
of a pickle. Now. So I'm
25:19
officially here as Mr. Owen
adores emergency contact. He's
25:24
being sheltered in the lobby of
our district. And he's not the
25:27
only one. They set up camp about
a week ago. That's why he asked
25:29
to call the police. And it's not
just us. They're migrants in
25:32
almost every district of the
city and the buses keep coming
25:35
up from the border almost
everyday. fleeing a pretty
25:38
horrific situation under
Minnesota. Venezuela,
25:41
Adam Curry: Venezuela. All
right. So now Mr. Martin is
25:43
waiting for his wife to have an
MRI but no. Dr.
25:47
Unknown: Marcel? Yeah. It's been
over an hour and my wife hasn't
25:50
gotten an MRI yet. I assure you
we have not forgotten. Dr. Ahmad
25:54
said she'd make it a priority
but I haven't seen a trace of
25:57
her as
25:57
soon as an MRI frees up Mr.
Martin.
26:00
Adam Curry: I promise she's next
in queue. Yeah, yeah. Next in
26:03
queue. What doctor says that
next thing done next in queue?
26:06
No, because the immigrants the
illegal aliens go first.
26:09
Unknown: Why are you moving? My
wife Sir, please is just
26:12
temporary.
26:13
Hey, Mr. Martin.
26:14
Okay, what's going on?
26:15
Did you to authorize this? My
apologies. It appears we're
26:18
momentarily. I don't see what's
going on. But you're given all
26:21
the rooms to them. Same thing
happened to my kids school they
26:25
commandeered her gym for
26:26
a shelter. Look, wait, I
26:27
assure you we have enough
resources to take care of it.
26:30
Oh, we don't. People keep saying
that. But we just don't Okay,
26:33
the whole volleyball season got
canceled. My daughter needed
26:35
that for a scholarship. And now
my wife She's obviously not
26:39
receiving your full attention.
How come nobody's looking out
26:42
for it? I understand
26:43
that this is an inconvenience.
But we do need to free up this
26:45
room. Okay, gonna get away from
her. Please stop.
26:53
Adam Curry: No, get away from
me. I'm very confused about the
27:02
messaging here is the messaging.
Like don't be douche is the
27:07
messaging. If you are a douche,
you're gonna get apprehended and
27:10
go to jail is the message we're
being overrun? I don't
27:13
understand the message. Here's
the last clip and the
27:16
Unknown: updates. I wish I could
say this was an isolated
27:20
incident. But from what I'm
hearing around town, it seems
27:24
like the welcome wagons broken
down for Zardoz offering to take
27:28
Mr. Martin into custody if we
feel the staff safety is
27:32
threatened.
27:33
Adam Curry: What is the
messaging?
27:37
John C Dvorak: Well, the
messaging if you look at it just
27:41
overtly, if you make a fuss
you're gonna get you're gonna
27:45
get it and get yourself in
trouble
27:46
Adam Curry: contained. Yes, yes.
But at the same time, it's also
27:49
saying, you know, who watches
this? Nobody. It has ratings.
27:56
John C Dvorak: It does. It's
actually gets watched. Yeah, it
27:58
Adam Curry: gets watched quite a
bit.
28:00
John C Dvorak: People want
there's three of them. There's
28:02
Chicago, PD, Chicago Med and
Chicago Fire and they're it's a
28:07
it's a trio Troika, a troika of
shows. And they tend to be
28:17
they're very it's a very strange
bunch of shows. I have to say.
28:21
So you
28:21
Adam Curry: don't have an
analysis of why they're doing
28:23
this. I don't have one I don't
watch this. I
28:26
John C Dvorak: know you don't
have well, you don't have to
28:28
watch it to know that
something's up with that
28:30
message. Yeah.
28:31
Adam Curry: Especially with the
she's next in queue. Really?
28:36
Yeah. No,
28:38
John C Dvorak: I would just say
she's next in line that's what
28:41
the normal person says she's
next in line not she's next in
28:44
queues. Code in Chicago. Let you
know. Yeah. In Chicago, they
28:49
she's next in line next to go.
Next in queue.
28:54
Adam Curry: And then and then 60
minutes. did a piece on the
29:00
Chinese aliens. Visitors
newcomers the Chinese who come
29:07
right show which show is
beautiful art, which was was
29:11
also confusing to me because
these were not military aged
29:15
men. These are women primarily
when the women came in, oh,
29:19
clean clothes, clean wraps clean
shoes. Couple of them had little
29:22
roller bags. Just
29:24
Unknown: after sunrise. We saw
the first group of migrants make
29:27
their way from Mexico through a
gap between the 30 foot steel
29:31
border fence and rocks. ducking
under a bit of razor wire and
29:36
into the United States. We were
surprised to see the number of
29:40
people coming through from China
nearly 7000 miles away cameras
29:45
and at one point this armed
Border Patrol agent standing 25
29:49
feet away did not deter them. 30
minutes later, a smugglers SUV
29:56
raced along the border fence and
dropped another group at The
30:00
same spot, and 30 minutes after
that another group. Over four
30:05
days we witnessed nearly 600
migrants, adults and children
30:10
pass through this hole and onto
us soil unchecked. The gap is a
30:15
global destination littered with
travel documents from around the
30:19
world. But we noticed middle
class migrants from China
30:23
arriving with rolling bags. They
told us they took flights all
30:26
the way to Mexico. Some flew
from China to Ecuador because it
30:30
doesn't require a visa for
Chinese nationals. Then took
30:34
flights to Tijuana Mexico. The
migrants told us they connected
30:38
with smugglers or what they call
snakeheads in Tijuana. And they
30:41
each paid them about $400 for
the hour long drive that ended
30:45
here at The Gap. Last year, US
Customs and Border Protection
30:50
reported 37,000 Chinese citizens
were apprehended crossing
30:54
illegally from Mexico into the
US, US Customs and Border
30:59
Protection told us their agents
don't have authority to stop
31:02
people from coming through gaps
like this one, and can only
31:05
arrest them after they've
entered illegally. As for
31:09
closing that gap, they said it
is on their priority list would
31:13
require money from Congress.
31:15
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me let
me check my to do list. Yeah,
31:18
it's up there. It's next in
queue. So this is also some kind
31:22
of propaganda. And I have to say
just looking at the 60 minutes
31:27
piece. To me, it seems like
exactly as you said, you know,
31:31
there's 30 40% unemployment in
China. Although I've had people
31:36
say that's not possible. They
can't travel. They gotta be
31:38
spies. I don't know they're not
31:42
John C Dvorak: there is an
element to that. But Chinese do
31:44
travel, of course, they travel
and they can travel to all other
31:47
countries. We have to get
permission to travel but they
31:50
travel. Yeah. And then
31:51
Adam Curry: then they they come
in here because they're looking
31:53
for jobs. And of course nail
salons. Toilet, it's better than
32:02
it's better than what they've
got. But let's not. Let's not
32:05
joke around that. I think
there's also parents and Chinese
32:09
parents are just like every
other parents are like, hey,
32:12
this really sucks here. We got a
crappy government. There's no
32:15
work, and I'm gonna sell the
car. I don't have a car to sell
32:18
the house. And I'm gonna get you
out. I'm gonna get you to
32:21
America. I think that's that's
also happening. This is
32:26
John C Dvorak: a worldwide that
is happening. It has to be
32:29
Adam Curry: and it's the
international office of
32:30
migration that is everywhere.
Now what we get to see to psych
32:34
us up is Darien Gap. These
people are not coming through
32:37
the Darien Gap. They got clean
shoes. Everyone saw all these
32:42
guys that went to the Darien Gap
traveled for over a week. Yeah,
32:46
there's some very sad stories of
the stories of the Darien Gap
32:49
that may be 1%
32:51
John C Dvorak: of know this
story this way this is being
32:53
presented where they just go to
get into in a four by four the
32:58
four wheel or four by whatever
it is delayed. It's like an SNS
33:03
delay, they get an Escalade,
they get driven for a couple of
33:06
hours and dropped off and they
did a $400 cap, right. It's what
33:10
it amounts to.
33:10
Adam Curry: It's like a Chinese
Uber. Yeah, no, I know makes
33:15
John C Dvorak: nothing but
sense. That's what you do. You'd
33:17
first you'd find the most
efficient way of getting over.
33:19
Yeah, you wouldn't walk your ass
off. No.
33:25
Adam Curry: No. So the but in
the meantime, the literal guy
33:31
who prints the money is like,
Hey, thank God, we've got
33:34
immigration backup. This good.
And he he says immigration. He
33:38
knows we knew what he means.
People coming across the border.
33:41
He says thank God, thank God.
There's so many jobs we just
33:45
didn't know. People moved on
with their lives here in
33:47
America. They left
33:51
John C Dvorak: all the tents
around.
33:53
Adam Curry: They moved on, they
moved on to drugs, they moved on
33:55
to camping on the streets.
That's the disgusting part. And
33:59
we all go oh, they're spies
urban military age men. Oh,
34:04
please. And it's world I was
asked on a Dutch program
34:08
yesterday. It's exactly the same
thing. It's exactly the same and
34:12
everybody's sick of it. And
remember 40% of the world votes
34:16
this year. So now and of course,
of course we need to play this
34:23
out for nine more months. Of
course, Trump is telling
34:27
everybody keep that goal and
this is great. Of course. Of
34:31
course he is he wants to be
president hey it's is it any
34:35
worse than pretending to fight
Iran by bombing some some crap
34:42
in in Jordan or Syria? Well, not
only to legitimize that were
34:47
there. Oh, man. I got one last
quick. This is CBS on the
34:52
crumbling of the plan
34:53
Unknown: as migrants continue to
cross Congress is frozen in
34:57
place. It shows up broken
Washington DC us The US senate
35:01
plan to stiffen border security
tightened requirements for
35:04
asylum and nearly shuttered the
border during spikes of migrant
35:07
crossings had the endorsement of
Senate leaders. I didn't
35:10
Adam Curry: see any of that in
any bill. Did you say any of
35:12
that? We're going to shutter the
border. No, it was money. Oh,
35:15
agents. In
35:17
John C Dvorak: fact, there's the
one of the supporters of the
35:19
bill a Democrat tweeted that
there's actually no no closing
35:23
of the border mentioned even in
the bill. No, it's for more
35:25
personal the whole thing was the
bill was a scam. Designed to get
35:29
the Republicans to vote no. So
they could be accused. Wanting
35:33
Yes, yes. It didn't work out
because the Republicans are
35:37
voting yes on it. At least a few
of them. Oh, we got Schumer
35:41
voted no, I'm gonna hound people
about this is very good. John.
35:45
That's
35:45
Adam Curry: an excellent
observation, a national border
35:47
Unknown: patrol union.
35:48
My Republican colleagues changed
their minds. Turns out they
35:53
weren't all talk and no action.
The
35:56
motion is not it. But it
collapsed in a vote late today,
35:59
credit cards because former
President Trump opposed it.
36:03
Adam Curry: Was Trump on the
floor. Was he there like
36:06
John C Dvorak: Trump was there
voting no.
36:08
Adam Curry: Trump's
36:10
Unknown: action. The motion is
not it. But
36:12
it collapsed in a vote late
today, in part because former
36:15
President Trump opposed it.
Americans are ticked off that
36:19
this is not resolved.
36:20
Adam Curry: I'm ticked off. How
about you, John? Are you ticked
36:22
off?
36:24
John C Dvorak: Nobody's ticked
off. It's
36:26
Adam Curry: next in queue.
36:27
Unknown: The impasse is a blow
also to cities like Chicago,
36:30
where Alderman Byron Sixto Lopez
is helping the city respond to
36:33
1000s of migrants bust from the
border. The
36:36
federal government has
exacerbated and worsening the
36:40
issue of the border. The
36:41
Senate today then shifted to a
new plan with 10s of billions of
36:44
dollars to help Ukraine and
Israel but no border changes. It
36:48
will face stiff resistance in
the house.
36:51
I mean, this place is just it
just chaos right. Failures
36:54
happened a day after House
Republicans came up one vote
36:57
short in trying to impeach
Homeland Security Secretary
37:00
Alejandro Mayorkas, was it a
surprise how it played out?
37:03
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't think it
was a surprise it was more of a
37:05
disappointment.
37:06
Unknown: Texas Democrat Al Green
hospitalized near the Capitol
37:09
after intestinal surgery made a
surprise appearance on the
37:12
floor. Casting the deciding
vote. You had to sign a waiver
37:16
to get out of the hospital to
vote. It was
37:18
acknowledgment that I understood
that there could be some
37:21
consequences that could be
adverse in my best interest in
37:24
our hero al
37:26
the house could vote as early as
next week on a second attempt to
37:29
impeach Secretary Mayorkas,
further inflaming and already
37:32
fiery and gridlock Congress.
37:35
Adam Curry: Okay, so that is the
show that nobody wants to go to
37:39
no one no one is interested in
your stupid little show. And no
37:44
one's interested in your war.
We'll get to that in a moment
37:47
because right now, in this
season of reveal We have
37:51
breaking news
37:52
Unknown: breaking news from the
UK, Britain's King Charles has
37:56
been diagnosed with cancer.
Buckingham Palace has issued a
37:59
statement saying that the cancer
was discovered while the king
38:03
was undergoing a separate
procedure for an enlarged
38:07
prostate. That news coming out
in just the last hour, we need
38:11
Adam Curry: to go back in time
for a moment we need to go back
38:14
to December 8 2022, episode 1510
of this podcast in UK who
38:21
John C Dvorak: have not heard
anything about Charles This is
38:24
interesting.
38:25
Adam Curry: That's why I call
around now.
38:29
John C Dvorak: Charles
38:31
Adam Curry: I believe it right
away. People are mad they hate
38:36
the HR alls. I think it's also
some you know, they're just
38:40
pushing their anger on to him.
Why not?
38:42
John C Dvorak: Do what is
available type? If what you say
38:45
is true. They're gonna have to
do it because they have to have
38:49
a coronation. They can't just
let this last they're gonna have
38:51
to kill him. Yeah. So am I six?
Or am I five? It'd be five or
38:59
GCHQ those guys were one of
these spooky groups up there.
39:04
They're gonna have to get the
old pricker out of them safe
39:07
now. I kill him because I
believe you're right.
39:11
Adam Curry: I really think
you're right. And Harry has
39:13
always been the designee you
know the Charles's mom has been
39:19
as long as she could you know
she she did not want to see you
39:22
do not want to see Charles on
the throne. And everyone knows
39:25
Harry is the chosen one. So I
think it right now. We can put
39:29
in the Red Book. The question is
how what is the best way to do
39:32
it? We need a cover story. From
the Red Book from the Red Book,
39:40
cover story. Oh, we discovered
some worse cancer than the s.
39:45
He's done. He's toast he's over.
He's out. Willis arm daily
39:49
wasn't going to be now we knew.
We knew it. We knew it. This is
39:53
the point. We knew. I mean, who
knows what is going on? But he's
39:59
out The hairy dead man did king
for a day. dead dead band rock.
40:08
I feel sorry to laugh about it,
but that's what it is. It's what
40:11
it is. That's what they do.
Okay, I think before we get into
40:17
war because it's just a lot of
net pops or as I heard recently
40:20
a net package. This is this is a
new term for us net pops net
40:25
package. I think we must talk
about. Of course it happens on a
40:29
show day. Tucker Carlson is
going to interview Putin. Oh,
40:33
no, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. This
is great. It's, I mean, he
40:41
doesn't he needs zero promotion
budget. He doesn't have to
40:45
promote anything. The mainstream
media goes out and promotes his
40:50
interview for him. What is going
on? There? He's picked up some
40:54
tips from Trump. Listen to Erin
Burnett, unhinged,
40:59
Unknown: massive shakeup in keep
it coming as Putin is trying to
41:02
court the Maga GOP in the United
States. In fact, one of the
41:07
leaders of the Maga GOP is in
Moscow tonight.
41:10
Adam Curry: Did you don't talk
her as a leader. He's a leader.
41:13
John C Dvorak: Somehow a leader
of the mega limits.
41:18
Adam Curry: When the Maga GOP
baby,
41:21
Unknown: it's the manual. Here P
with the Maga leader Donald
41:23
Trump, Tucker Carlson. Possibly
they're in Moscow to interview
41:27
Putin definitely there as
opposed supporting celebrity.
41:31
Look at them talking about him
like a celebrity. Everything he
41:33
does on camera breathlessly
repeated note is unclear if an
41:37
interview between Putin and
Carlson will take place. But if
41:40
it does, it gives Putin a chance
to sit down with a big
41:43
supporter.
41:46
It might be worth asking
yourself since it is getting
41:48
pretty serious. What is this
really about? Why do I hate
41:51
Putin so much? As Putin ever
called me a racist? Has he
41:55
threatened to get me fired for
disagreeing with him?
41:57
Does he eat dogs? These are fair
questions. And the answer to all
42:01
of them is now at that is I
didn't
42:03
Adam Curry: do any of that. But
what's the dog thing again?
42:06
John C Dvorak: The dog thing is
always a reference to Obama. Oh,
42:09
right.
42:11
Adam Curry: Right, right, right.
Exactly.
42:13
Unknown: I'll actually always
remember watching that clip. I
42:16
was standing in Ukraine 48 hours
before the war begin there. By
42:21
Putin consistently all the way
through.
42:24
Adam Curry: The second she was
there to interviews Alinsky.
42:26
That's why she brought that up.
She he had that fawning
42:29
interview was before
42:31
John C Dvorak: the war began.
She was there. Yeah, two
42:33
interviews. By coincidence? I
think not.
42:37
Unknown: Well, Carlson then
stood by Putin consistently all
42:39
the way through. And that is why
she can go to Moscow now without
42:43
Adam Curry: by the way, she said
before the war begin, which was
42:47
very odd. It would have been
began.
42:51
Unknown: These are fair
questions, and the answer to all
42:53
of them is no. Vladimir Putin
didn't do any of that. I'll
42:57
actually
42:57
always remember watching that
clip. I was standing in Ukraine
43:00
48 hours before the war begin
there. Begin there,
43:04
Adam Curry: what is their
43:06
John C Dvorak: language begin
there?
43:08
Adam Curry: She may be a
newcomer before the war begin
43:11
there
43:11
Unknown: then stood by Putin
consistently all the way
43:13
through, and that is why he can
go to Moscow now without any
43:17
fear of being summarily
imprisoned, is a hero. This was
43:21
Putin's mouthpiece in the United
States, somebody who had turned
43:25
a blind eye to the atrocities
committed by Putin because they
43:27
were happening far away. Once
vibrant towns turn to ruins mass
43:31
graves with dozens of bodies and
the kief suburbs, a theater full
43:35
of innocent women and children
sheltering bombed. Despite the
43:38
giant world's children written
on the roof, no more than
43:41
200,000 Ukrainian soldiers
killed or injured dad, he's a
43:45
murderer who's trying to seize
on the fact that Zelinsky is
43:48
military appears to be in
turmoil. Yeah, okay.
43:51
Adam Curry: So of course, Trump
called up Vladimir and said if
43:55
my boys come and this is great,
we'll get your story out. Of
43:58
course. It doesn't make Tucker a
leader of the Maga GOP. It makes
44:05
me
44:05
John C Dvorak: that was of debt
she I didn't know what the word
44:07
is. I have a clip for 2001 in
NBC, one of their guys I don't
44:14
even know who this guy is
interviewing Putin. Before the
44:18
war begin, begin begin.
Beginning beginning there
44:23
Adam Curry: and begin there
before the wind begin begin
44:25
there. Yes. And
44:27
John C Dvorak: this is the kind
of interview and then they just
44:29
basically kept Putin out of the
picture after this interview
44:33
Unknown: that makes us ask you a
direct question.
44:34
Did you order Alexei Navarro
nice assassination. And they
44:38
should can use No, of course
not. We don't have this kind of
44:41
habit of assassinating anybody.
That's one. Number two is I want
44:47
to ask you, did you order the
assassination of the woman who
44:51
walked into the Congress and who
was shot and killed by a
44:53
policeman? Do you know that 450
individuals were arrested after
44:58
entering the Congress? Come on,
they didn't go there to steal a
45:01
laptop. And even if they came
with political demands, 450
45:06
people have been detained.
You're talking about the
45:09
capital, they're looking at jail
time, between 15 and 25 years.
45:15
And they came to the Congress
with political demands. Isn't
45:19
that prosecution for political
opinions? Yeah, no.
45:23
Adam Curry: But to me, to me,
this is this is to get Trump
45:31
elected. I mean, I was almost a
no, I knew for sure. I knew it
45:36
before it begin. When we brought
her out, there she is. When you
45:43
bring out Hillary to promote
this, you know, they want Trump
45:46
to win, she wants everybody to
watch. And she's she is
45:51
literally using the literal same
playbook about Trump as she did
45:56
in 2016.
45:58
Unknown: I mean, he's like a
puppy dog, you know, he somehow
46:00
has, after having been fired
from so many outlets in the
46:04
United States, he, I would not
be surprised if he emerges with
46:09
a contract with outlet because
he is a useful idiot. He says
46:13
things that are not true. He
parrots Vladimir Putin's pack of
46:18
lies about Ukraine. So I don't
see why Putin wouldn't give him
46:23
an interview. Because through
him, he can, you know, continue
46:27
to lie about what is, you know,
objectives are in Ukraine, and
46:32
and you know, what he expects to
see happen? It's really quite
46:36
sad that not just somebody like
Tucker Carlson, who has, as I
46:42
said, been fired so many times,
because he seems unable to, you
46:46
know, correlate his reporting
with the truce. But also because
46:53
it's a sign that there are
people in this country right now
46:56
who are like a ship's column for
Vladimir Putin and right,
47:00
although no, I mean, why are
Republicans throwing their lot
47:05
in? Why are you no other
Americans basically believing
47:10
Putin? Why did Trump believe
Putin more than our 11
47:14
intelligence agents?
47:16
Adam Curry: I don't know. Do you
have a working theory? That's
47:20
Alex Wagner, MSNBC and she did a
whole Alex Wagner
47:23
John C Dvorak: and let me guess
it Alex Wagner say to Hillary
47:27
that while she was Secretary of
State that she managed to sell
47:30
20% of our uranium reserves to
the Russians. Are you trying to
47:34
be like sarcastic that kind of
like a good question, because
47:37
that seems like pro Putin this?
No, I think Putin. Oh,
47:41
Adam Curry: let's let's listen
to the interview. It was
47:43
fascinating. Were you surprised
by remember? It is my belief
47:48
that Hillary Clinton is doing
this to to get all the attention
47:52
on Trump focus everything on
Trump. Obviously, this is not
47:55
going to sway any of the Maga
GOP, but it gets his name out
47:59
there and people who sit at home
so I'm yeah, you know, you know,
48:02
I'm thinking about this.
48:03
Unknown: Were you surprised by
their capitulation to Trump's
48:05
whims on the border bill?
48:07
I was surprised because it was a
really serious effort. The
48:12
Republicans have done this
before. Yes,
48:14
Adam Curry: you got it. You had
a question? Could
48:15
John C Dvorak: it be a serious
effort when Schumer himself
48:18
voted? No.
48:19
Unknown: When I was in the
Senate, we overwhelmingly passed
48:22
and immigration reform, you
know, in addition to security,
48:25
other provisions as well, we
pass it overwhelmingly in the
48:29
Senate. Did
48:30
Adam Curry: they was it? Was
there something Oh, it was in
48:32
the Senate, so never pass? Okay,
then
48:34
Unknown: President George W.
Bush. So I would sign it and the
48:39
Republican leadership in the
House would never bring it up
48:41
for a vote. So I've said for
years, they'd rather have a
48:45
problem on the border than a
solution. But I thought this
48:48
time, given the seriousness of
the negotiation, the fact that
48:53
it was only about security that,
frankly, the Democrats gave up a
48:58
lot Yeah, to support the
Republican request for greater
49:02
security, which I favored
actually. And then at the last
49:07
minute to have Donald Trump tell
people who are independently
49:10
elected in their states, and
have an obligation to represent
49:15
their constituents and their
conscience that they had to stop
49:19
trying to solve the problem and
go back to letting it fester for
49:23
his own political Did
49:24
Adam Curry: you call Schumer you
must have called Schumer Hey
49:26
Chuck Hey Chuck man vote that we
have evidence
49:29
John C Dvorak: that he called
anybody Of course, that's what's
49:32
Unknown: so beautiful.
49:32
This is was pretty shocking to
me. And like sure, right there's
49:37
no it wasn't even a surprise was
just
49:40
kind of like Trump's telling us
we can't do it because it's not
49:42
good for him in an election
year. So we're not going to do
49:45
Adam Curry: this is so good with
your your Chuck Schumer
49:47
revelation. These are
instructions that Trump told me
49:50
not to do it, man.
49:51
Unknown: There were a few
profiles and courage for a
49:54
little while. People standing up
and saying what are you talking
49:56
about? We want to solve this
problem. That's why we're sent
49:59
to watching Did but then they
capitulated. And, honestly, it
50:03
shows a real danger that Trump
poses where it doesn't matter
50:11
whether you have a bipartisan
agreement to solve a problem or
50:14
not. If he wants it for
political purposes, then he
50:19
tries to and succeeds in blowing
it up. That is what
50:23
authoritarians do. Yet another
reason why we can't let him
50:27
anywhere near the White House
again. Yeah. Okay.
50:30
Adam Curry: So now I want to
play this clip. So I'm glad
50:34
she's back.
50:35
John C Dvorak: She again, I
disagree with your thesis or
50:38
hypothesis or whatever you want
to call it. Now. It says that
50:40
we've got a bunch of people
redefining these words.
50:44
Adam Curry: You don't think
she's here to promote Trump? No.
50:47
John C Dvorak: Oh, she hates
Trump. I don't believe that for
50:49
a minute. I think that in fact,
the line that she has, which is
50:52
Trump's anti democratic is going
to ruin the democracy in there.
50:58
I think she's an idiot, and he's
doing this. She is promoting
51:02
Trump. I'm not arguing that.
Yeah, that's my I don't think
51:05
she means to.
51:07
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then
she's stupid. I'll take stupid
51:09
for 25. And we'll take it to the
Supreme Court.
51:14
Unknown: Are you optimistic
about what the Supreme Court
51:16
does next? I think
51:17
on this particular issue,
51:20
Adam Curry: this is about the
Colorado ballot. The Supreme
51:24
Court and I think they just
heard oral arguments I do.
51:27
John C Dvorak: If you watch TV
today, they actually played him
51:30
on Fox. I got to hear most of
it. And it doesn't look good for
51:35
Colorado, that's for sure. No,
51:37
Adam Curry: of course not. And
remember that this is based upon
51:41
some guy who's a psychologist
who said, No, Trump was thinking
51:46
insurrection? Yes, I
51:48
John C Dvorak: know. It's some
guy, some guy was thinking your
51:53
mind reader? Yes.
51:55
Unknown: If I were the Supreme
Court, I wouldn't want to wade
51:57
into this. It's such a good
opinion. I would deny cert let
52:01
the opinion stand. Colorado
52:03
Adam Curry: such a good opinion,
based upon the guy familiar with
52:05
the former President's thinking
it's
52:07
Unknown: in line with previous
opinions. You know, when Trump
52:10
made the argument about, well,
this whole, you know, hamstring
52:13
future presidents Well, he's the
only one who has been in this
52:17
position. And he is the only one
who has claimed such broad
52:23
blanket immunity. And we know
what his real thoughts are you
52:27
remember, I could shoot
somebody?
52:29
Adam Curry: No, no, wait, wait,
this is important. Because now
52:31
now, now she gets into the
persuasive arguments that are
52:37
based on other things that Trump
said
52:40
Unknown: broad blanket immunity.
And we know what his real
52:45
thoughts are. Remember, I could
shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue,
52:48
my supporters wouldn't care. He
thinks that he should be above
52:51
the law, that he should be able
to manipulate the law. The last
52:56
time I checked, despite Trump
and his supporters efforts to
53:00
undermine this. We were a nation
based on the rule of law, not on
53:06
the rule of individual men, the
way that Trump keeps trying to
53:11
claim
53:11
Adam Curry: all right, did Trump
ever say, to your knowledge that
53:16
he was going to use SEAL Team
Six to kill his political
53:20
enemies?
53:21
John C Dvorak: I can't find any
reference to it where I are. I
53:24
can't find a clip. No,
53:25
Adam Curry: because it wasn't
him. It wasn't him that said
53:29
this. I mean, as
53:30
Unknown: someone who ran for the
presidency and one popular vote,
53:32
is it like can you even wrap
your head around arguing in
53:36
court that you should be able to
kill your assassinate your
53:39
political enemies using SEAL
Team Six? I mean, how did that
53:42
that argument land
53:43
with you? Well, you know, he
says, so many outrageous things.
53:48
Yeah, that I think a lot of
people have stopped listening,
53:52
and they shouldn't, they should
pay very careful attention to
53:56
what Trump says.
53:57
Adam Curry: Now, just to remind
ourselves where this was used.
54:01
We go to Stephen Colbert, who
for some unbelievable reason has
54:05
Joy read on the show.
54:07
Unknown: It looks like you know,
all the safe money is on a Biden
54:10
Trump rematch here. Yeah.
Besides the deja vu, yes, what
54:17
it what it what is that like for
you? Because some people aren't
54:20
sure how to approach this
differently. This time. What is
54:25
your approach to this election?
anything different than 2020?
54:27
You know,
54:29
the difference between that
election and this one is that it
54:32
was an up in the air question.
54:35
It was not an up in the air
question. I should say in the
54:37
previous election, whether the
President of the United States
54:41
could use SEAL Team Six to kill
his political opponents.
54:44
So it's a little different out
right like we it's a different
54:46
Trump. Well, that was the
argument. Lawyers made Yeah,
54:50
Adam Curry: his lawyers made
that argument. He never said
54:54
that. It was part of an argument
argumentation. So we go back to
54:59
Hillary because
55:00
Unknown: If they do, they can
see the linkage between what he
55:04
says and what he tries to do. In
his first term. On many
55:09
occasions, he was reined in and
even stopped by the people
55:12
around him because there were
people who he put into important
55:15
positions, who had served in
government under prior
55:19
Republican presidents who
understood the rule of law, who
55:22
understood the constitutional
system and so much more. They
55:25
were able to stop him. He will
now fill those positions, if
55:30
ever given a chance, which I
hope never happens with people
55:34
who are
55:35
Adam Curry: I love how he says
he will now fill those
55:36
positions, which I hope never
happens
55:39
Unknown: to stop him. He will
now fill those positions. She
55:42
Adam Curry: knows he's gonna
win. There it is. She knows it
55:44
already. It's it's a foregone
conclusion in her mind,
55:48
Unknown: she will now fill those
55:49
John C Dvorak: positions. He's
going to win doesn't mean she
55:52
wants him to
55:53
Adam Curry: win. No, but that's
why she says he will now fill
55:56
those positions. And then she
says, which we hope will never
55:59
have she
55:59
John C Dvorak: will. No, no, I
agree that the writing's on the
56:02
wall. Yes,
56:03
Adam Curry: let's just finish
it. 30
56:05
Unknown: seconds, she will now
fill those positions, if ever
56:08
given a chance, which I hope
never happens with people who
56:12
are totally members of his cult.
And I don't say that lightly or
56:16
as a throwaway line. Because
when I look at people who I
56:20
know, were horrified by January
6, who are Republicans in the
56:25
House and the Senate, who have
come around to dismissing it to
56:29
discounting the horror that they
themselves felt, as they, you
56:33
know, put put themselves under
desks as they ran down hallways
56:39
as they tried to escape the mob
coming at them. There is
56:43
something about Trump's hold on
the Republican Party that is
56:48
frightening. It's
56:49
Adam Curry: frightening. Thunder
bolts of lightning
56:53
John C Dvorak: players that clip
this is the immunity. That was
56:58
the thing about shooting your
political opponents came out of
57:02
the immunity argument. Yes. This
is from Democracy Now without
57:07
Amy Goodman. Okay,
57:08
Adam Curry: no, no, no warning,
no warning. Thank you no
57:11
warning, no warning the Trump
57:13
John C Dvorak: immune kicker
57:14
Unknown: in its ruling. The
three judge panel of the US
57:17
Court of Appeals for the DC
Circuit wrote, quote, We cannot
57:21
accept former President Trump's
claim that a president has
57:23
unbounded authority to commit
crimes that would neutralize the
57:27
most fundamental check on
executive power, the recognition
57:30
and implementation of election
results. The judges went on to
57:34
write quote, nor can we sanction
his apparent contention that the
57:37
executive has carte blanche to
violate the rights of individual
57:41
citizens to vote and to have
their votes count. Trump has
57:45
vowed to appeal the ruling
possibly to the Supreme Court.
57:48
during oral arguments last
month, Trump's legal team
57:51
claimed the former president
should have full immunity to do
57:54
anything, even assassinate
political opponents.
58:03
John C Dvorak: Let's keep that
in play. Yes.
58:05
Adam Curry: Well, so there is
persuasion happening everywhere.
58:09
And I think Trump is full on
he's got everybody out there,
58:15
including ice cube. And
58:20
Unknown: yes, yeah.
58:21
Adam Curry: And the reason why I
say ice cube because I saw your
58:24
clips and I'm pretty sure I know
what it's about. Your rappers
58:27
lament. I just, I just want to
save everyone from
58:31
embarrassment. We talked about
this 12 years ago. This story,
58:37
that hip hop, there was a secret
music meeting. And the people
58:42
who own the labels also own the
prisons, we're going to make hip
58:47
hop music we're going to make
that gangster rap. So we put all
58:51
the black people in jail,
58:53
John C Dvorak: the private jail
so they can make money.
58:55
Adam Curry: This is bull crap
58:58
Unknown: is
58:58
Adam Curry: not true. And Ice
Cube repeated this. This is out
59:03
there. People are sending me
this. I mean, I'm if you want to
59:06
play some of these clips, I'm
happy to but we have we have
59:08
read this letter from this
anonymous music industry
59:13
executive verbatim on this show.
12 years ago, it's been around
59:17
forever. I've talked about it
with Moe, there's no evidence of
59:21
this. There's no evidence of
these people owning the private
59:24
prisons. What there's evidence
of is that this is a this is to
59:29
rile up black Americans against
Joe Biden. For one reason and
59:34
one reason only listen to the
important date here, say
59:38
Unknown: red music. Same people
who own the labels on the
59:43
prisons. So literally the same
people literally the same people
59:49
who own the labels on private
prisons. The records that come
59:56
out
59:59
are really geared to push people
towards their prison industry,
1:00:06
but they didn't make you write
those lyrics. It's not about
1:00:10
making. It's not about making
somebody write the lyrics. It's
1:00:14
about
1:00:18
being near as guardrails to make
sure certain songs make it
1:00:22
through and certain songs don't.
This This to me is in some way,
1:00:29
you know, some social
engineering going on here to to
1:00:34
make sure those prisons stay
full
1:00:37
do they actually like go Monday,
Tuesday go to work as a record
1:00:40
company executive and Wednesday
through Friday? Go work on
1:00:43
prisons now.
1:00:44
No. Okay. So if of course
they're not, they're not
1:00:47
actually running the labels,
they have to knows they have
1:00:51
financial interests, they have
financial IceCube
1:00:54
Adam Curry: is not stupid keys
on the team. This happened this,
1:00:59
this so called secret meeting
happened in 1991. And what
1:01:03
happened? This is what you will
hear next? Is it because this is
1:01:07
going to be taken as fact? Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. There was a
1:01:10
secret meeting and this guy was
there. And, and it was in 1991.
1:01:15
It was to get all the black
people all riled up and get him
1:01:18
to commit crimes and go to jail.
And what happened in 1992? The
1:01:23
Biden crime bill, you watch
that's next. This is a psyop.
1:01:30
It's an actual up to get black
people to hate Joe Biden to
1:01:34
remind them of the 1992 crime
bill.
1:01:39
John C Dvorak: Well, you've
proved my point. Yeah, that's
1:01:44
exactly what's going on in the
crime bill thing which they
1:01:48
tried to bring out in the first
election and 2020 was a huge
1:01:52
flop. Yep. They couldn't get it
to take get hold, take hold,
1:01:56
couldn't get it. I mean, they
could do a little bit of it
1:01:59
during the Hillary election
because she had called black
1:02:05
criminals. I forgot if it was
there wasn't a word vermin, but
1:02:08
was some horrible phrase that
she had, I should know this.
1:02:13
Black criminals back in the day.
super predators, super predators
1:02:19
shredded or super predators. I
remember that. Yes. So but that
1:02:24
didn't get catch either. But
there it is. possible that I
1:02:27
have her
1:02:27
Unknown: not just gangs of kids
anymore. They are often the
1:02:31
kinds of kids that are called
super predators, no conscience,
1:02:34
no empathy. We can talk about
why they ended up that way. But
1:02:37
first, we have to bring them to
heel.
1:02:40
Adam Curry: Bring him bring him.
Yeah. Yeah. So this is so
1:02:46
John C Dvorak: the Democrats
have got these issues, but
1:02:49
they've been able to keep them
under wraps. But using this as a
1:02:53
two pronged approach, which is
to re introduce the gangster rap
1:02:58
as a mechanism created for the
private prisons. Yep. And then
1:03:02
follow it up with the crime
bill. And the commentary that
1:03:08
Joe had back in the day, which
he doesn't remember. I'm sure
1:03:11
Adam Curry: you know, but it was
good. It was good. Be
1:03:15
John C Dvorak: quite just a good
move. Yeah. Okay. Ice
1:03:19
Adam Curry: cubes on the team.
There's no doubt. I mean, he
1:03:22
knows he was making music in the
90s. Oh, come on ice cube. Do
1:03:28
you know that you know, oh, no,
they wouldn't. They wouldn't put
1:03:31
my records out unless it was
about killing other black men.
1:03:34
No, Mo No. No. I mean, it's true
today that the record labels
1:03:41
encouraged drill rap, of course,
on sub labels, so they can make
1:03:45
money and you know, then make it
go big and push the Spotify
1:03:49
algos. That's true. But this
view I'm, we're just, they may
1:03:54
flop but I think it's I think
it's very strong because it came
1:03:57
to you. It's been coming to me
from and it's like, Hey, did you
1:04:01
hear about this up? We're on
MTV, then when did you know
1:04:04
about this meeting? To no fool?
No. Of course not. The music
1:04:11
business is bad, but they're not
that bad. That they're also
1:04:15
running commercial prisons. No.
I was the same people. We had a
1:04:20
meeting. We had to sign a piece
of paper. No, it
1:04:24
John C Dvorak: was about a piece
of paper story which creates
1:04:28
this problem is the one guy
that's floating around now
1:04:32
within the clips that I have. He
hasn't been in the music
1:04:37
business for a while that piece
of paper is valid because all it
1:04:39
says in the piece of paper is
that if you reveal this, you're
1:04:42
gonna get fired. Right? But
you're not even working for that
1:04:46
same company. You get fired from
what the minute you quit that
1:04:50
job. You should go public. Yeah.
1:04:53
Adam Curry: But there's no one
identified as the guy who wrote
1:04:56
that. Who wrote that up. I mean,
that that thing just been out
1:04:59
there. forever, as I said,
12 1214 years that that story
1:05:04
has been around. And we and we,
I think I read Yeah, we read it
1:05:08
verbatim on the show. So, but
that, so there's a lot of a lot
1:05:14
of things at work here. And then
we have, we have war, trying to
1:05:19
make some war. And just to show
you how, however,
1:05:26
John C Dvorak: before you
venture off to the war, that
1:05:29
we're going to pass over the
three by three Oh, well, let's
1:05:32
do
1:05:33
Unknown: a three by three.
1:05:36
Adam Curry: Five JC
1:05:38
Unknown: comparing stories from
a
1:05:45
Adam Curry: never ending three
by three where we take a look at
1:05:46
the headlines from the big news
networks. Do they get NAT
1:05:49
packages? Not pops? John has it?
Oh,
1:05:51
John C Dvorak: this is the one
this is about Trump's getting
1:05:54
where they said now you didn't
get this kind of immunity you're
1:05:57
looking for okay. But this is
the appeals court. Yeah, that
1:06:01
does it. So it's gonna go to the
Supreme Court. It's not over
1:06:03
yet. And they got it. They can't
let this stand because in fact,
1:06:07
immunity,
1:06:09
Adam Curry: immunity from
insurrection, just immunity in
1:06:12
general immunity from what?
immunity
1:06:15
John C Dvorak: from anything if
you're if you commit a crime in
1:06:17
office, you're immune from
prosecution, but you're not
1:06:22
immune from impeachment. The
remedy because the President has
1:06:26
to do all kinds of things that
could be seen from the outside
1:06:29
world is very illegal. It's very
like, like killing Americans
1:06:33
with drones.
1:06:34
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Thanks.
Thanks, Obama,
1:06:38
John C Dvorak: and eating dogs,
which Obama did. That could be
1:06:41
illegal in some states. So so he
has to maintain it. Because if
1:06:48
this falls through, Obama could
be an every president probably
1:06:53
and this is what happens in
Europe and elsewhere, where they
1:06:55
don't have this kind of
immunity. The guy gets you taken
1:06:59
out of office and the guy comes
in, they immediately go after
1:07:02
the old guy. They arrest him.
1:07:04
Adam Curry: I like it wasn't
Milosevic.
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
none. Not only him, but
1:07:08
everybody in South America.
Yeah. Who's ever been a leader
1:07:12
there has been arrested there
was affected leader, current
1:07:16
leader of Brazil was got elected
after being in prison. I mean,
1:07:21
it's just unbelievable. So you
can't you have to have this kind
1:07:24
of thing. And then if if it goes
too far, if the guy's really a
1:07:29
political opponent, he gets
impeached, you impeach him, and
1:07:32
it's not that hard to do. So
that's what you're supposed to
1:07:36
do. So they and and I would say
George Bush could be a war
1:07:41
criminal. Couldn't be
1:07:44
Unknown: good. No problem.
1:07:47
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with that. So but it got
1:07:49
rejected at the lower courts.
It's gonna go up at the point of
1:07:53
the three by threes to compare
the coverage. Let's start with
1:07:55
ABC and Pierre Thomas site
1:07:57
Unknown: in a scathing opinion
of federal appeals court
1:08:00
rejecting Donald Trump's claims
he has complete immunity from
1:08:03
prosecution for anything he did
as president, including his
1:08:07
efforts to overturn the 2020
election. The three judge panel
1:08:11
unanimously ruling former
President Trump has become
1:08:14
citizen Trump, any executive
immunity that may have protected
1:08:17
him while he served as president
no longer protects him against
1:08:21
this prosecution. We cannot
accept that the office of the
1:08:24
presidency places its former
occupants above the law for all
1:08:29
time thereafter. Trump claims he
cannot be tried for trying to
1:08:32
overturn the election and his
actions leading up to January 6,
1:08:36
the president has to have
immunity in court in January.
1:08:41
The judge is deeply skeptical,
asking if a president could
1:08:44
order the assassination of his
opponent and get away with it.
1:08:47
Trump's lawyer arguing and
President can't be charged
1:08:50
unless he is first impeached and
convicted by Congress.
1:08:54
President who ordered SEAL Team
steps to assassinate a political
1:08:57
rival, who was not impeached
he'd be subject to criminal
1:09:01
prosecution if he were impeached
and convicted. First to answer
1:09:06
is.
1:09:08
Today the court was blunt. We
cannot accept former President
1:09:11
Trump's claim that the President
has unbounded authority to
1:09:15
commit crimes to judges also
taking aim at the serious nature
1:09:19
of the charges. Trump faces
writing former President Trump's
1:09:22
alleged efforts to remain in
power despite losing the 2020
1:09:26
election where it proven an
unprecedented assault on the
1:09:30
structure of our government.
Trump isn't until Monday to
1:09:33
appeal to the Supreme Court if
the High Court declines the
1:09:36
appeal. The judge overseeing the
case could set a new trial date
1:09:39
soon. But if the Supreme Court
decides to consider the matter,
1:09:42
all bets are off David. There
could be lengthy delays I'm
1:09:46
Adam Curry: very excited to see
how NBC and CBS handled this Do
1:09:49
they have the same quote the
same SEAL Team Six quote bullet
1:09:53
John C Dvorak: be the thing
about you know you can shoot
1:09:55
your political opponents still
cracks me up is great because
1:09:59
they keep us To get in
everyone's using it as leverage
1:10:01
because he wants to be dictator
from day one owner only on day
1:10:06
one, but no, no, but that's not
the way it's being presented
1:10:09
from day one from day one. Yes.
Not only on day one. Okay, let's
1:10:13
go to that was what ABC is going
to NBC
1:10:16
Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP today dubbed citizen Trump
1:10:19
by a three judge panel in
Washington ruling, Mr. Trump is
1:10:23
not immune from prosecution, the
court saying we cannot accept
1:10:27
that the office of the
presidency places its former
1:10:30
occupants above the law for all
time thereafter.
1:10:33
Adam Curry: But wait a minute.
He was president When? When?
1:10:38
Yeah, when this took place. So
they're they're confusing the
1:10:41
matter. They're arguing about
something which of course is
1:10:44
true. Well,
1:10:46
John C Dvorak: that's not what
they argued in court.
1:10:48
Adam Curry: Arguing that Yeah,
well, that. Well, they're making
1:10:50
it make it
1:10:51
John C Dvorak: appear as though
okay, I was present. So now I
1:10:54
can ever they're on mute.
Everything. Yeah, that's not
1:10:58
what the case is about. But
that's what the network interest
1:11:00
wants you to think. Yeah, it's
not true.
1:11:03
Unknown: No, the Trump campaign
saying he'll appeal the decision
1:11:06
like how they keep saying
citizen Trump. Trump himself
1:11:09
bemoaning the ruling saying, oh,
a President of the United States
1:11:13
have full immunity in order to
properly function and do what he
1:11:17
should
1:11:17
Adam Curry: have used our word
lamenting, but then but they
1:11:20
said bemoaning the moon itself
bemoaning
1:11:23
Unknown: the ruling saying a
President of the United States
1:11:26
must have full immunity in order
to properly function and do what
1:11:30
has to be done for the good of
our country. Special Counsel
1:11:33
Jack Smith charged Mr. Trump
last summer for his efforts to
1:11:36
reverse the 2020 election
results and stop the peaceful
1:11:40
transfer of power.
1:11:41
We will never give up. We will
never concede Mr.
1:11:44
Trump's legal team has been
trying to get the charges tossed
1:11:47
out for months, arguing he
should be completely immune from
1:11:51
prosecution for any acts he took
as president. The court today
1:11:56
unpersuaded saying we cannot
accept former President Trump's
1:12:00
claim that a president has
unbounded authority to commit
1:12:04
crimes that would neutralize the
most fundamental check on
1:12:07
executive power. The recognition
and implementation of election
1:12:11
results the Trump campaign
capitalizing on the court's
1:12:15
decision today with a
fundraising plea, as a
1:12:17
Republican front runner
frequently uses his legal
1:12:20
setbacks as fuel for his latest
White House bid.
1:12:24
If you have a president that
doesn't have immunity, he's
1:12:27
never going to be free to do
anything because the opposing
1:12:29
party will always indict him as
soon as he leaves the White
1:12:32
House with
1:12:33
today's ruling Mr. Trump's only
hope at avoiding trial is for
1:12:37
the Supreme Court to find he is
immune, which would have major
1:12:40
implications in the other legal
cases he faces as well. What are
1:12:44
the next steps? What's
1:12:45
the timeline ahead?
1:12:46
Well, that's where the court
today said Mr. Trump has just
1:12:49
until Monday to appeal this to
the US Supreme Court. Now, it's
1:12:52
unclear if the justices There
will even take up the case. But
1:12:55
if they choose not to this trial
could happen as early as this
1:13:00
summer less right.
1:13:01
Adam Curry: So what do you
think?
1:13:02
John C Dvorak: I mean, well,
first of all, NBC did not drop
1:13:05
the bomb. They didn't put it in
their shooting, your CEO
1:13:09
cynically quoted what's wrong
with them? Sorry,
1:13:12
Adam Curry: what's wrong with
them? That's the best.
1:13:14
John C Dvorak: That's the best I
know. And NBC is the most anti
1:13:17
Trump of the network. They had
it
1:13:19
Adam Curry: on MSNBC with
Hillary let her put it in there.
1:13:21
They should have put it in. So
1:13:24
John C Dvorak: I'm baffled by
that particular coverage report.
1:13:26
It was a very it was light. It
was lightweight. Let's go to CBS
1:13:30
and see what Jan Crawford SSA
the
1:13:33
Unknown: ruling by the
influential DC based federal
1:13:35
appeals court was a stern rebuke
of the former president sweeping
1:13:39
claims about immunity from
prosecution with a court saying
1:13:42
the former president must face
trial for efforts to subvert the
1:13:46
2020 election. For the purpose
of this criminal case former
1:13:50
President Trump has become
citizen Trump with all the
1:13:53
defenses of any other criminal
defendant in court and on the
1:13:57
campaign trail. Donald Trump
repeatedly says he can't be
1:14:01
prosecuted for his actions as
president, a president
1:14:04
has to be given immunity and
this has nothing to do with me.
1:14:07
But the three judge panel of two
Democratic appointees and one
1:14:11
Republican was unanimous and
emphatic any executive immunity
1:14:15
that may have protected him
while he served as president no
1:14:18
longer protects him against this
prosecution. Well, the bounds of
1:14:23
Trump's immunity arguments
became clear last month while he
1:14:26
sat in the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges
1:14:30
presented his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.
1:14:34
Yes, no, yes or no question.
Could a president who ordered
1:14:38
steel team sets to assassinate a
political rival who was not
1:14:42
impeached he'd be subject to
criminal prosecution if he were
1:14:46
impeached and convicted first.
Since
1:14:48
the Senate declined to convict
Trump. That argument would mean
1:14:52
Special Counsel Jack Smith could
and you
1:14:56
John C Dvorak: know, I think
about it, it was actually the
1:14:58
judge who came up with the high
pathetical Not to Trump's
1:15:01
lawyers.
1:15:04
Adam Curry: I'm gonna listen to
it again. It is everybody says
1:15:06
John C Dvorak: it's Trump's
lawyers. A hypothetical.
1:15:09
Adam Curry: Let me listen to me
with
1:15:10
Unknown: a dramatic
hypothetical. While he sat in
1:15:13
the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges
1:15:16
present his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.
1:15:19
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, wow. Not
only Trump not said someone who
1:15:24
hates Trump said it.
1:15:27
Unknown: That's great. Yes, no,
yes or no question. Could a
1:15:31
president who ordered SEAL team
sets to assassinate a political
1:15:35
rival who was not impeached?
He'd be subject to criminal
1:15:39
prosecution.
1:15:40
Adam Curry: You should never
answer a hypothetical if he were
1:15:43
impeached and convicted first.
1:15:44
Unknown: Since the Senate
declined to convict Trump. That
1:15:47
argument would mean Special
Counsel Jack Smith couldn't
1:15:50
either and the appeals court
flatly rejected it. So
1:15:54
Adam Curry: that was clearly a
talking point that a lot of
1:15:57
people agreed upon. They they
must have had a meeting about
1:16:02
that. Oh, Judge, you've got to
ask this question. We will all
1:16:06
use it for years.
1:16:08
Unknown: And Jan Crawford is
here with us. And so a CBS News
1:16:11
Chief Election campaign
correspondent Robert Kosta, good
1:16:13
to have both of you here for
more context and analysis. So
1:16:16
Jim, this is not the end of
this, right? Oh, no, it's
1:16:18
not. I mean, he can ask the full
court of appeals to reconsider
1:16:21
this or he can skip that step
and just go straight to the
1:16:24
Supreme Court. But having lost
it every tournament, I think
1:16:27
that is a long shot. I don't see
how he's going to get five votes
1:16:31
from the Supreme Court if they
decide to take up this case. And
1:16:35
if they do, I still think we're
looking at a trial possibly late
1:16:37
spring or early summer. Oh,
1:16:40
Adam Curry: well, I think the
Supreme Court will punt on this
1:16:43
one. They don't want to deal
with that.
1:16:46
John C Dvorak: I disagree. You
think they're gonna take it? I
1:16:50
think they'll take it. But it'll
go on the docket. They won't be
1:16:52
purged for forever.
1:16:55
Adam Curry: No, but it would be
more fun because during the
1:16:57
summer months, we need some TV
action. Everything's on hiatus.
1:17:03
I'm just thinking in from it
logic,
1:17:04
John C Dvorak: but nobody's
watching TV during the summer.
1:17:06
That's the prompt
1:17:07
Adam Curry: that will we'll have
something to watch will is free
1:17:10
content. Free. All right. Yes,
it
1:17:16
John C Dvorak: was CBC Canada
Canada's they got a report.
1:17:23
Unknown: For what happened on
January 6, when a mob stormed
1:17:26
the US Capitol to overturn the
2020 presidential election
1:17:30
results. Donald Trump can face
prosecution, that according to a
1:17:35
unanimous and scathing ruling
from a three judge federal
1:17:39
appeals panel, they wrote We
cannot accept former President
1:17:43
Donald Trump's claim that a
president has unbounded
1:17:46
authority to commit crimes. It's
a total rejection of Trump's
1:17:51
claims that his actions on that
day are protected by
1:17:54
presidential immunity on social
media. Trump railed against the
1:17:58
ruling calling it dangerous. He
wrote, a President of the United
1:18:03
States must have full immunity
in order to properly function
1:18:07
during proceedings. That line of
argument was repeatedly
1:18:10
challenged by the three judge
panel, including judge Karen
1:18:14
luxcraft Henderson.
1:18:15
I think it's paradoxical to say
that his constitutional duty to
1:18:21
take care that the laws be
faithfully executed allows him
1:18:26
to violate criminal laws.
1:18:29
Today's ruling is unprecedented
largely because no former
1:18:33
American president has ever
faced criminal charges. In
1:18:37
Washington. Trump's supporters
once again blame the former
1:18:40
president's legal troubles on
political bias. Speaker of the
1:18:44
House, Mike Johnson,
1:18:46
Adam Curry: I believe that
they've been after President
1:18:48
Trump for partisan political
purposes. I think that's obvious
1:18:51
and and we call it law fair. And
I think there's no other way to
1:18:53
describe
1:18:54
Unknown: from Trump loyalist
Representative Matt Gaetz.
1:18:57
We are here today to
authoritatively express that
1:19:01
President Trump did not commit
an insurrection. Trump's
1:19:04
team has until February 12, to
file an appeal to the Supreme
1:19:07
Court and what the court decides
could have an effect on whether
1:19:11
the issue is settled before or
after the November election.
1:19:17
Adam Curry: The sad thing about
this is is it has destroyed all
1:19:21
faith in the American justice
system. I would hate to be sued.
1:19:25
I'd hate to be charged for
anything. You've got no chance.
1:19:32
It's all corrupt. I'm not Am I
Am I stating the obvious here?
1:19:38
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if it's as bad as you make
1:19:40
it out to be. Well, yeah, I
would say at the highest levels.
1:19:44
Yes. Yeah. But not necessarily
locally.
1:19:49
Adam Curry: By him unless some
Nut Job says You raped her at
1:19:52
Bergdorf Goodman and they and
they say, Well, you know you
1:19:57
didn't rape her, but you defamed
her At $3 million $3
1:20:02
John C Dvorak: million, you
1:20:03
Adam Curry: know, it's like, no,
I think there's loss. Well, the
1:20:06
real problem
1:20:07
John C Dvorak: is it the cost of
these defenses is just
1:20:11
ridiculous. He's going broke
doing these studies. I mean,
1:20:15
those mean, imagine
1:20:16
Adam Curry: that the government
is finance the government sues
1:20:19
me for for denying the moon
landing. Things are so bad that
1:20:27
even Trudeau is telling the
candidate avions they don't want
1:20:31
to be like Trump.
1:20:33
Unknown: What we hear from the
Leader of the Opposition is
1:20:36
under the previous Conservative
government, everything was
1:20:39
perfect. And what he is
proposing to do is to make
1:20:43
Canada great. Again, that is not
what Canadians want. He is
1:20:48
pining for, quite frankly,
Canadians do not feel. Don't
1:20:53
Adam Curry: make Canada great
again. No, no. Our Canadians
1:20:59
want no they don't want it to be
great again at all. All right,
1:21:03
so we have the we have the
Democrats in this grand sciatica
1:21:09
game, which I don't even know
how many people are really that
1:21:12
interested in, but it is good
for us to just pull it apart. We
1:21:16
have the Republicans or the
Democrats and saying, oh, it's
1:21:19
Trump's fault. This war. And now
we have Lindsey Graham, I mean,
1:21:25
the for the border. Lindsey
Graham is now going to put his
1:21:30
ugly little fat fingers into the
war business than that, you
1:21:36
know, they're doing it all
wrong. And and, you know, it
1:21:41
would have been better if If
Trump were in office. I mean,
1:21:43
the whole thing is just
disgusting.
1:21:45
Unknown: Our national security
is in freefall. Morgan Ortega
1:21:49
has made a very good point. Look
at the record for the last three
1:21:52
years. This is a symptom of a
greater problem. We withdrew
1:21:56
from Afghanistan, the Taliban
took over in 2021, showing
1:22:00
weakness Putin invades Ukraine
and 2022 and 2023. Hamas attacks
1:22:06
Israel, killing more Jews and
anytime since the Holocaust,
1:22:10
Holocaust 24. We're having
America.
1:22:13
Adam Curry: I love this whole
low cost like Hola, de
1:22:16
Unknown: masa tax Israel,
killing more Jews. And anytime
1:22:20
since the Holocaust 2024. We're
having Americans killed by
1:22:24
Iranian proxies. In the Mideast,
they're pushing us all over the
1:22:28
place. Our national security is
in freefall. Here's what works.
1:22:33
Here's something they value
Soleimani was killed with a
1:22:36
single strike. He was there
General Patton and Eisenhower,
1:22:40
there was nothing left but a
small green card, car and a ring
1:22:43
finger. Ring finger it works.
Here's what we need to do. You
1:22:51
need to hit something that I
told, told the values his
1:22:54
leadership team like a solomani,
or take him out of the oil
1:22:58
business, if we hit their oil
infrastructure. You don't need
1:23:01
manned aircraft. They got four
refineries, you can see from
1:23:04
space, if you're not one of them
out, they would stop this. Our
1:23:07
American troops are in harm's
way. If the goal is to deter
1:23:12
Iran, you're failing miserably.
They got the message. What
1:23:14
they're not afraid of us. They
were afraid of Trump, they're
1:23:18
not afraid of us. It is not
working. We need to change our
1:23:21
policy. People are not afraid of
us this idea of hitting hundreds
1:23:27
of targets doesn't matter the
only Iranian we killed in Syria
1:23:31
or Iraq or or is some dumbass
that don't know to get out of
1:23:34
the way we gave them a weeks
notice. So if there another
1:23:38
round of strikes coming I hope
they they really will hurt Iran
1:23:42
in their pocketbook or kill
their leadership because if you
1:23:45
don't nothing changes.
1:23:46
Adam Curry: The guy who
literally told Mark Zuckerberg
1:23:49
he had blood on his hands is
saying Hey, kill some people
1:23:52
kill some kill some people that
matter blow some stuff up. But
1:23:59
he's I think he's right. You
know, these so called strikes
1:24:02
that we're doing. It's just if
anything is just to legitimize
1:24:07
that we're in Jordan, where we
shouldn't be in the first place
1:24:10
John C Dvorak: or Syria. We can
be in Jordan,
1:24:12
Adam Curry: not in Syria, Syria,
Syria, Syria.
1:24:14
John C Dvorak: Now. If we go
back to a clip, I remind people
1:24:21
that we had I don't have the
clip in front of me. But we had
1:24:23
this clip of one of our analysts
going on that this whole thing
1:24:26
is a scam because we're in bed
with Iran. Yes.
1:24:30
Adam Curry: Do you remember that
clip?
1:24:32
John C Dvorak: No, I you know,
I'm gonna have to try to dig it
1:24:34
up. The claim was that we're in
bed with Iran, the whole thing's
1:24:38
phony. That's why we don't want
to get to a war with or even get
1:24:41
pushed into one and they don't
want one either. Because we know
1:24:44
we're all doing this for more
oil to get into the market. The
1:24:48
market is flooded with oil.
Biden has done just the opposite
1:24:52
of what he said he was going to
do but he can't talk about it or
1:24:54
brag about it because his base,
you know is all against fossil
1:24:58
fuels. But again, and all you
have to do is go to the American
1:25:02
Petroleum Institute or anybody
else and you'll find that we've
1:25:05
been pumping more oil than ever.
Stickley internationally than
1:25:10
ever before. We're flooded. The
market has got lots of oil. I
1:25:15
Adam Curry: think this is all
even the Red Sea. It's all about
1:25:17
control of oil. All of it.
1:25:22
John C Dvorak: Which has been
kind of a thesis of the show.
1:25:24
Yeah. Says the pipeline pipe
episode.
1:25:27
Adam Curry: pipelines, oil. And
then pipeline episode. Yep. 118
1:25:32
or something. 180. Way back.
180. Yeah.
1:25:36
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
play some clips from Al Jazeera
1:25:39
about this war because they
brought on an Iraq Iranian
1:25:42
professor at the University of
Tehran. And he brings in some
1:25:46
points that we've made on the
show. The guy's glib and he is a
1:25:50
dick. And you and he smirks when
the other people are talking
1:25:56
especially the American
representative, the representing
1:25:59
American side of the argument
and he's on Yeah, sure. You just
1:26:02
see it in his eyes. And he's got
but he's got some things to say
1:26:06
that I think are interesting
enough that our, our group here
1:26:11
should be aware of or be
reminded of mostly, let's go
1:26:15
with this. Clip one.
1:26:17
Unknown: Let's bring in our
guests for today's discussion
1:26:19
from Tehran. We're joined by
Mohammad marandi, a political
1:26:22
analyst and professor at the
University of Tehran from
1:26:26
London, read up Mandsaur, Senior
Research Fellow and Director of
1:26:29
the Iraq initiative at Chatham
House, a British think tank, and
1:26:32
from Washington, DC Lawrence
Coates, senior fellow at the
1:26:36
Center for American Progress and
former US Assistant Secretary of
1:26:39
Defense Gentlemen, welcome to
you all. Mohammad, marandi
1:26:43
Professor. How dangerous moment
is for is this for the region
1:26:49
will these strikes be the last
the
1:26:51
United States is only digging it
digging itself into into into
1:26:56
the deeper hole? The United
States is illegally occupying
1:27:01
1/3 of Syria, the United States
keeps its military bases in
1:27:05
Iraq, despite the fact that the
Iraqi parliament has told them
1:27:09
to leave. They struck bases that
are linked to the Iraqi
1:27:16
military, they belong to the
Iraqi military, the Iraqis
1:27:19
condemned the attack. And the
same is true with Syria. They
1:27:23
will Biden wants to look strong.
He hasn't attacked the Iranians.
1:27:29
And most importantly, is the
fact that this is about Iraqi
1:27:34
and Syrian sovereignty. The
Americans like to call everyone
1:27:38
Iranian proxies. The Yemenis is
the Lebanese, the Palestinians
1:27:45
and the Iraqis and the Syrians.
But that's just they're just
1:27:47
misleading public opinion. And
they're fooling themselves.
1:27:51
People don't like their
countries to be occupied.
1:27:55
You could also argue, Professor
that Iran is occupying parts of
1:28:01
Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon
couldn't you know, I always
1:28:05
Adam Curry: when, of course,
this guy is going to be right,
1:28:07
I'm sure. But always I always
feel bad when we do the show.
1:28:11
And like, we're the bad guys.
We're just delicious. I mean,
1:28:16
we're occupying everybody's I
know, we've been saying it for
1:28:19
16 years. Because because it's
been true, but just feel bad
1:28:24
about it. Let's stop. That. That
is the one thing that I've
1:28:28
really, really liked about
Trump. Just you know, let's not
1:28:31
do that. Let's just do our own
thing over here. Let's not do
1:28:36
that. Yeah, yeah. All kinds of
back deals and backroom deals
1:28:38
with everybody but well,
1:28:39
John C Dvorak: the backroom
stuff the back channeling is
1:28:42
what, and they bring it out in
this commentary because the guy
1:28:46
who's not the Chatham House guy
really doesn't say much, which
1:28:49
is kind of remarkable in itself
since they always have something
1:28:53
to say as propagandistic Chatham
House is an interesting
1:28:57
operation. It's like, kind of
like the nine
1:29:01
Adam Curry: CFR you have Chatham
House rules where anything we
1:29:04
say, can be talked about. Yeah,
1:29:07
John C Dvorak: that kind of
thing. But the other guy, the,
1:29:09
the, the American ex, I think
he's a do defensive army guy. He
1:29:15
brings up some interesting
points. And I think that and
1:29:18
they're in these clips, where
what is on the surface is
1:29:21
bullcrap. Because most of the
back channeling is just the
1:29:24
opposite of what we're hearing.
And it calls out this Iranian
1:29:28
guy a couple of times, but let's
go with clip two. No,
1:29:31
Unknown: Iran doesn't have any
forces in Iraq and Iran. role in
1:29:37
Syria is with the consent of the
internationally recognized
1:29:43
government in Damascus. And in
any case, but
1:29:47
it has been it has, it has
proxy. It had does have proxy
1:29:51
militias, though doesn't it?
1:29:52
Know whatever Iran does in
Syria. It is with the consent
1:29:56
and support of the government.
Iran helps defeat ISIS and Al
1:30:01
Qaeda. Remember in on February
the 12th 2012, Jake Solomon and
1:30:06
now un, US national security
adviser sent an email to Hillary
1:30:11
Clinton saying, who was the
secretary of state saying that
1:30:14
in Syria, al Qaeda is on our
side, ISIS came from al Qaeda,
1:30:18
the US Defense Intelligence
Agency documented 2012 said that
1:30:22
the US allies in the region
wanted to establish a solid
1:30:26
Salafist entity between Iraq and
Syria. And then the General
1:30:31
General Michael Flynn, who was
the head of the that agency at
1:30:34
the time said in an interview on
on AlJazeera, that you guys took
1:30:38
a while,
1:30:39
Adam Curry: right? You say
Michael Flynn,
1:30:41
Unknown: to establish a solid, a
solid first entity between Iraq
1:30:46
and Syria. And then the General
General Michael Flynn, who was
1:30:49
the head of the that agency at
the time, said in an interview
1:30:52
on on Al Jazeera, that the US
took a willful decision to
1:30:57
support the establishment of
their Salafis entity that was
1:31:00
ISIS. So the Iranians when the
US and its allies were
1:31:03
establishing ISIS and al Qaeda
and their affiliates, the
1:31:07
Iranians were helping the
Syrians and Iraqis to prevent
1:31:11
ISIS from taking over Damascus
and Baghdad. Right. So
1:31:16
Adam Curry: let's just agree on
one thing. This is not because
1:31:20
we hate anybody that lives in
the sand is because there's oil
1:31:24
in the sand. And we have the
military industrial complex
1:31:27
which employs it. It's our
business. Yeah, I mean, that's
1:31:31
oil that's needed. Our business
is oil. Our business is war.
1:31:36
John C Dvorak: Well, the war is
just a war is more a function of
1:31:40
making sure that oil Yes, slow.
Yes.
1:31:42
Adam Curry: I love how some of
the trolls are saying, Speak for
1:31:45
yourself. Curry. I'm not an
American. I don't I don't I
1:31:48
don't agree with those crooks in
Washington. Yeah, you can't walk
1:31:51
away from it.
1:31:55
John C Dvorak: Crooks go vote
1:31:58
Adam Curry: that'll change
things.
1:32:04
Unknown: In London, what do you
make of what you just heard,
1:32:06
but I think I mean, it's
important to kind of nuance some
1:32:09
of this history. The Americans
were also invited to Iraq in
1:32:14
2014, by the Iraqi government,
to support in the fight against
1:32:18
ISIS. So at that time, and
during the fight against ISIS,
1:32:22
the Americans and the Iranians
had they had a common enemy. And
1:32:25
they fought, you know, not, not
on the same side by side. But
1:32:29
with this with the common end,
yes, after ISIS, we're living in
1:32:32
this sort of post ISIS arena,
this region, where now they're
1:32:39
sort of turned on each other.
And this is the latest of this
1:32:42
escalation. So both Iran and the
US have significant influence
1:32:47
across these countries. The US
does have troops in Iraq and
1:32:53
Syria. And Iran, of course, has
you know, I agree that calling
1:32:57
them proxies takes the agency
away from these groups, but they
1:33:00
are aligned, and they do work
together. And these are networks
1:33:04
that span across Yemen, Lebanon,
Syria and Iraq, pursuing at
1:33:09
times Iran's foreign policy
goals. So this is a very
1:33:12
dangerous, I think I you know,
some are calling it tinderbox
1:33:15
right now, where neither the
Iranians nor the Americans want
1:33:19
an all out war or a direct
conflict. But what we're seeing
1:33:23
is this tit for tat show of
force that's making the region
1:33:26
very dangerous.
1:33:28
Adam Curry: Oh, the region.
Thank God, we're back in the
1:33:30
region. The region is great. You
know, what's in the region? Our
1:33:35
oil under their sand is in the
region. Exactly.
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: Right. And I
think that's brought up in the
1:33:40
next clip
1:33:41
Unknown: Flores called Do you
want to come back on anything
1:33:43
that you've heard so far? Before
I put a direct question to you?
1:33:46
Yeah, I think it's important to
keep in mind that we left Iraq
1:33:50
in 2011. In fact, I talked to my
lucky about staying basic.
1:33:55
Basically, we came back in 2014,
at their invitation, because of
1:34:01
what ISIS was doing. And
basically, that has been our
1:34:05
role. Before October 7, we were
carrying this out, we were
1:34:11
talking to the Iraqis about
leaving, sometimes they say
1:34:15
something publicly, but
privately, no, they still wanted
1:34:18
us to say, but after October 7,
you had over 160 attacks on the
1:34:25
American forces there in Iraq
and Syria. Fortunately, no one
1:34:31
was killed. So our response was
not overwhelming, or as strong
1:34:37
as it has been when the
Americans died. And that's where
1:34:41
we are right right now, and my
experience with the Iraqis a lot
1:34:45
of times they'll say something
publicly to appease the
1:34:49
Iranians, but then privately
they'll say, no, no, we really
1:34:52
still want you to stay. You know
what I
1:34:56
Adam Curry: do? I'm missing. I'm
missing shots of people saying
1:34:59
death to America, they need to
get that going again. And I
1:35:04
honestly I would really like to
have the those guys in the
1:35:07
orange jumpsuits beheading
people again, because that was
1:35:09
some good video they were
producing.
1:35:13
John C Dvorak: I think the Yeah,
that was good. It was it was
1:35:17
more entertaining than what
we're getting that kind of dry
1:35:20
is kind of academic. In fact,
this These clips are very much
1:35:25
that way.
1:35:25
Adam Curry: I know. But it's
still good stuff. It's a good
1:35:28
reminder because this goes back
1010 years, eight years, all of
1:35:33
this stuff is just if nothing
has changed. They just rehab
1:35:38
rehashing this is five. Yeah, as
good as the last one, right?
1:35:42
Yes. Last six.
1:35:44
John C Dvorak: There's six. Oh,
yes.
1:35:46
Unknown: I'm sorry, six.
Muhammad, the US national
1:35:49
security Spokesman John Kirby
said that the goal is to get the
1:35:53
attacks on US interests to stop.
We're not he said, quote looking
1:35:57
for a war with Iran. Now, no
targets were hit within Iran in
1:36:02
these retaliatory strikes. How
will Iran and its proxies
1:36:05
respond? Well, it will not cease
rain these groups in as Lawrence
1:36:12
said the US wants it to. Let's
1:36:14
be clear, contrary to what your
guest in the United States says
1:36:18
these are not proxies. And the
real issue here is the genocide
1:36:23
in Gaza. I have no doubt about
it. And the United States, as we
1:36:27
speak, is preparing the Israeli
regime for an expansion in
1:36:32
Lebanon. So in the coming weeks,
we may have heavy fighting in
1:36:38
southern Lebanon. The United
States is not retaliating in
1:36:43
Syria, the United States is an
illegal occupation force in
1:36:47
Syria, in the Al TANF area where
it occupies, in fact, there are
1:36:52
tribes that were loyal to ISIS,
those tribes are trained by the
1:36:57
Americans right now. And they
use that area al TANF to attack
1:37:03
Syrian government forces. And in
the in the last couple of
1:37:06
months, they carried out two
major attacks, in each case
1:37:09
killing between 15 to 20
conscript soldiers on buses, and
1:37:14
I think on both occasions, so
the United States, its presence
1:37:18
in Syria is illegal. It is
stealing Syrian oil in the east
1:37:23
of the country, and exporting is
no wrong one, the United States
1:37:28
has bombed Iraqi military
positions, it has destroyed
1:37:33
Iraqi facilities that were
constructed and paid for by the
1:37:36
Iraqi government. This is the
reality on the ground. Nothing
1:37:41
will change that. Okay.
1:37:42
Adam Curry: So the one thing I'd
like to understand is who and
1:37:45
how are we pumping the oil out
of Syria? What kind of know what
1:37:50
competent? That's
1:37:50
John C Dvorak: a crazy
accusation. But it sounds right.
1:37:53
The only thing that explains our
presence in Syria, but
1:37:57
Adam Curry: who what company who
was I know, there's pipelines
1:38:00
everywhere, but who was really
pumping it out? Well, that
1:38:03
John C Dvorak: we need to find
out. Is that some blockbuster?
1:38:08
Yeah. But that to me, I've never
heard that before. That was
1:38:15
stealing Syrian oil. And Syria
has never been known as an oil
1:38:19
producer. But they're in that
same region. They probably have
1:38:22
oil here and there.
1:38:23
Adam Curry: They're in the
region. They're
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: in the region.
Soaking with oil soaked, it's
1:38:30
Adam Curry: northeast Syria. I
think it's where the oil is.
1:38:34
Hasakah it's northeast,
1:38:37
John C Dvorak: was it anywhere
near a port? Well, it was
1:38:41
pumping it right to the port and
shipping it out and tankers.
1:38:45
Adam Curry: This comes back to
the Kurds probably it's probably
1:38:48
very cheap. To get it there.
1:38:50
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gotta
be dirt cheap,
1:38:51
Adam Curry: sure. Conoco.
Candoco. Kyoko gonna go Yeah,
1:38:55
who owns Conoco? Who is that?
1:38:57
John C Dvorak: It's an offshoot
of Standard Oil of New York now.
1:39:00
There
1:39:00
Adam Curry: you go. Oh, make
sense. Sustained Isabel? It's
1:39:03
John C Dvorak: a spinoff from
years ago. Come on.
1:39:04
Adam Curry: Now. Is this all
because I mean, so the grand
1:39:08
game is you? You try to hamper
Russia's oil, which to some
1:39:13
degree, of course did work, even
though no, no. But for some
1:39:18
stuff. It didn't help. But
1:39:21
John C Dvorak: what I'll tell
you what fascinates me is that
1:39:24
they've managed to keep the cost
of oil over $70 A barrel by
1:39:28
creating what seems to be a
shortage, while pumping more
1:39:32
than ever before the price of
oil right now to the American
1:39:35
public to the consumer,
especially the gasoline price
1:39:39
should be back to the preach the
Trump era. And it shouldn't be
1:39:43
$75 a barrel or whatever it is,
is in the 70s and goes through
1:39:47
floats between 72 and 80 to 90
Isn't it just mark just toning
1:39:52
down to the 50?
1:39:53
Adam Curry: Isn't it just phony
markets and markets are also
1:39:56
based on sentiment and new
stories and absolutely
1:40:00
John C Dvorak: So they give you
the impression that the you know
1:40:03
and we're cutting down are no
more fossil fuels and the whole
1:40:07
bull crap that they're promoting
is doing nothing but benefiting
1:40:10
the big oil companies again I
would tell people to take a look
1:40:13
at this chart first Exxon Mobil
from the day today if you were
1:40:21
to put your money into Exxon
Mobil right at the day you got
1:40:24
elected I think you would have
tripled your money by now. But
1:40:27
so this is so scam ish. It's
it's embarrassing. Same for
1:40:31
meta. Meta, let's go with Mata
Yeah, we actually that
1:40:40
quadrupled, quadrupled,
1:40:41
Adam Curry: quadrupled went from
100, under 100 to 400. Yeah,
1:40:45
John C Dvorak: went to button
from 96 to 400 pretty quickly.
1:40:48
So let's go to clip six. And
1:40:50
Unknown: I should also add that
the United States after the
1:40:55
assassination of the Iraqi
commander, Abu Mahdi, Al
1:40:59
muhandis, alongside general
Qasem Soleimani. At the Iraqi
1:41:04
International Airport for over
four years ago, the Iraqi
1:41:07
parliament demanded that the
United States leave and they
1:41:10
never did. They said they'd
leave. But the United States has
1:41:14
one strong card to play with.
And that is that all of the
1:41:19
Iraqi oil that is sold, the
money goes through account in
1:41:23
the United States. And whenever
the Iraqi government goes too
1:41:26
far, the Americans start
withholding Iraqi funds and
1:41:30
creating a crisis in Iraq. So
the Americans are like The
1:41:33
Godfather. They stand back they
pretend they're the good guys.
1:41:37
Yeah, but just Gaza where they
are part of the this genocide.
1:41:44
Here, they played the same role.
Remember the United States in
1:41:47
Iraq, they help Saddam Hussein.
The West gave Saddam Hussein
1:41:51
chemical weapons the US fought
alongside Saddam Hussein against
1:41:54
Iran, in 1988, striking Iranian
ships. And then it turned
1:41:59
against Iraq. Later on, it
invaded Iraq, who created this
1:42:03
mess? It was the United States.
1:42:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, we don't even
talk about Libya and Qaddafi. We
1:42:10
really do. Yeah, we did a number
on him.
1:42:14
Unknown: For sure. Yeah. Well,
1:42:16
Adam Curry: well, so I'll follow
that up. I have a Lester Holt
1:42:20
interview short here too short
clips, with the ambassador to
1:42:24
the UN Iran's ambassador to the
UN. Let's see if we can get some
1:42:28
clarification on the big theater
1:42:30
Unknown: from him. I spoke to
Ambassador Amira, siete era
1:42:33
Vani, just days after three US
soldiers died in a drone attack.
1:42:37
And with ongoing strikes on
commercial ships in the Red Sea,
1:42:41
the US blaming Iranian backed
militias, much of the
1:42:45
conversation centers on the
level of control or influence
1:42:50
that you and the Iranian
government has over these groups
1:42:53
to who these and other groups,
if you pick up the phone, can
1:42:57
you end the attacks?
1:43:00
No, when I say that, it is not
the same case, the relation
1:43:04
between Iran and the resistance
group in this region may be
1:43:08
compared with the NATO Treaty.
1:43:11
So you call this like a defense
pact? Yeah, difference
1:43:14
pack between the resistance
group and on. They have their
1:43:18
own decision. They have their
own choices. It is not the data
1:43:22
to inform call to the horses,
who the
1:43:25
attacks that we've seen on
commercial shipping
1:43:29
sophisticated weapons. Is Iran
supplying those weapons? Not at
1:43:33
all. Would Iran prefer that the
Houthi attacks against
1:43:37
commercial shipping, threatening
us naval vessels? Do you wish
1:43:43
those would stop? Are they
helpful?
1:43:45
You know, we encourage all of
them. You're encouraging them to
1:43:49
stop, we encourage them to stop.
We expect that the other side
1:43:53
also should encourage the
Israeli to stop. Stop.
1:43:58
Adam Curry: We got to stop it.
Stop it. Stop it out. You know,
1:44:03
I always have to think of Lexus
wife for you. Bob says everyone
1:44:07
in Iran everyone knows America
and Iran and working together.
1:44:11
Everybody knows it. Over there.
1:44:15
Unknown: On Friday, the US began
what's expected to be a wave of
1:44:18
attacks in response to the
deaths of those American
1:44:21
soldiers if there was an
American attack on Iran or
1:44:25
Iranian interests. What do you
foresee the reaction would be?
1:44:28
Oh, we
1:44:29
Adam Curry: break out the
1:44:30
John C Dvorak: party has second
he's doing the interview still
1:44:33
right. Yeah.
1:44:34
So they cut away just like what
is this the Family Guy Show?
1:44:38
Yeah. So they cut away to some
net papi explosions? Yes,
1:44:42
Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Please. We
attacked you. What would your
1:44:47
reaction be? A one of joy? Of
course. You know that?
1:44:52
Unknown: Absolutely. You know,
we have their own reaction. We
1:44:55
said clearly that if they attack
in lung soil or Ilan benefit, or
1:45:02
Iran, individuals all around the
world. We have their own
1:45:07
reaction and we will defend.
Absolutely. And
1:45:10
I asked about news, Hamas has
responded to an offer for a
1:45:14
hostage deal.
1:45:15
There's been a response from the
opposition. But yes, I'm sorry,
1:45:24
from Hamas. But it seems to be a
little over the top. We're not
1:45:30
sure where it is.
1:45:31
How do you view the fact that a
deal may come about since
1:45:37
I think that if the other side
accepts the condition of Hamas,
1:45:43
the ceasefire is possible.
1:45:47
lasting one lasting one?
1:45:50
Adam Curry: Plate theater
theater and by the way, they
1:45:52
don't care who dies. They don't
care who dies on the streets of
1:45:55
America. Don't cry care who dies
in Gaza? No one cares. We are
1:46:00
dispensable human resources.
1:46:03
John C Dvorak: bestest, a
hostage, I mean, the hostages
1:46:05
they say 30% of them must be
dead by now. Already know,
1:46:08
they'd said that says at least
30 of the 150 are already dead.
1:46:12
Yeah. The 150 left that they
haven't passed on passed back.
1:46:17
And if they don't think they
want to know I don't think this
1:46:21
they're ever gonna bring this to
a conclusion because they don't
1:46:23
want to find out. They're all
dead. Yeah.
1:46:28
Adam Curry: Also, the minute
that happens, then Bibi
1:46:31
Netanyahu gets kicked out. He'll
be gone. Everybody hates him. So
1:46:36
that they need that ongoing,
ongoing conflict. Genocide.
1:46:42
John C Dvorak: Well, it has to
go on for a while. So there's,
1:46:45
I'm
1:46:45
Adam Curry: gonna move to
something else a little less
1:46:47
depressing. There was this
headline, which kind of reminded
1:46:51
me of the Swift top Biden camp
reportedly fears photos from
1:46:56
Special Counsel classified
documents probe could devastate
1:47:00
reelection bid. I immediately
thought Ha, there it is. There's
1:47:06
your API fake photo swift up Oh,
Special Counsel for the app
1:47:14
being set up just
1:47:16
John C Dvorak: fake fake photos.
There's going to be a real photo
1:47:19
they're going to say is fake
Yes. Or yeah, the fake photo
1:47:21
they're going to say it's fake
they're going to say it's fake
1:47:23
whatever it
1:47:24
Adam Curry: doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter. Either way is
1:47:27
good. Special Counsel Robert
Herr could release report in
1:47:31
Biden classified docs case as
soon as this week but what would
1:47:35
be so embarrassing just take
them just stuffed thrown about
1:47:40
or? I mean Haven't we already
seen it in his garage? Wasn't
1:47:43
that embarrassing enough?
1:47:44
John C Dvorak: No, it's got to
be some mouse gotta be somewhere
1:47:46
I did to be good. It has to be
sexual.
1:47:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, like taking
showers with his daughter
1:47:53
John C Dvorak: well, they're not
gonna have any photos is that
1:47:54
but I don't know what it could
be. We'll find out soon enough
1:48:02
because you know what's gonna
come out if they although you
1:48:04
remember this this isn't always
interested me. You remember the
1:48:08
Abu Ghraib scandal with Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah. Hello, dominatrix girl
1:48:14
with a whip and she's beaten
guys the naked in our pile and
1:48:19
all these wires hooked up to
him. The wires hooked up in
1:48:22
there with a black hood and all
the rest of it. Yeah. And they
1:48:27
made the comment and I think it
was used to Schumer or somebody
1:48:31
in Congress as well you know
people are going to have to get
1:48:34
ready because that's not even
the worst of it. The worst is to
1:48:37
come and we never saw any of
that no
1:48:42
Adam Curry: never saw it
1:48:45
John C Dvorak: so you have to
wonder in fact right now that
1:48:48
the latest isn't I haven't don't
have any anti me clips about it
1:48:51
but the concept that I'll have
it for the next show. Jeremy who
1:48:58
scan escapee whatever his name
is. Is it Scahill? Yeah, it's on
1:49:03
Democracy Now claims that
they've done the research and
1:49:06
shows that the entire situation
in Gaza versus Iraq is all
1:49:12
bogus, and he's got all kinds of
documentation for it. And I have
1:49:16
commentary but I have to, I have
to for this too long on one of
1:49:21
these long lab lab lab things I
got to cut it way down.
1:49:24
Adam Curry: Take me a little
shorter than the professor just
1:49:26
one clip shorter six. Well,
1:49:28
John C Dvorak: you know, the
professor, I didn't like it
1:49:30
being this long. I did cut a lot
out because there was more than
1:49:32
just a professor, but I liked
what the professor had to say.
1:49:36
Even though he was a dick. So
1:49:39
Adam Curry: climate change
couple of things happening. One
1:49:42
is that Mark what's his name?
1:49:47
John C Dvorak: Well, I haven't I
have the intro clip before you
1:49:49
start on climate change
1:49:50
Adam Curry: the mark Stein thing
do you have that? No, no, I
1:49:53
John C Dvorak: have an intro
clip just to get you in the
1:49:55
mood. Okay. What is it what is
this the California floods fed?
1:50:00
democracy now report because you
know the democracy now they get
1:50:03
to the bottom of things. Is it
Amy? No, it's not Amy is not
1:50:08
Amina or whatever name is the
the homely woman
1:50:11
Unknown: in California. At least
nine people have died as the
1:50:14
state continues to be pummeled
with record breaking rainfall
1:50:18
from a deadly atmospheric river
storm. Some areas of southern
1:50:21
California recorded over 13
inches of rain in recent days,
1:50:25
triggering mass flooding and
hundreds of mudslides. This is
1:50:29
the actor and filmmaker Deborah
puits, speaking in Studio City
1:50:33
as a river of water flowed down
into
1:50:35
John C Dvorak: the water, these
record highs in the summertime,
1:50:38
and then these incredible storms
that we've never had before that
1:50:41
they're calling, you know, once
every 100 year storms and we've
1:50:45
had two of them since August. So
that's my belief is of course
1:50:51
it's climate change.
1:50:52
Adam Curry: Golf Course is
climate change. How was it
1:50:55
there? John? How are they? How
are the mudflats? How's
1:50:56
everything looking over this
beautiful
1:50:58
John C Dvorak: out right now?
Sunny? clouds in the sky? It's
1:51:01
nice. It's a little cold. 41
Last night, it was really cold.
1:51:04
Yeah. But there's no rain. It
hasn't rained for a couple of or
1:51:09
rain a little bit yesterday, and
it's gonna be
1:51:11
Adam Curry: the other day. On
Sunday. We had a you had when
1:51:14
there was that the once in 100
years storm that you had? Well,
1:51:18
John C Dvorak: we've had we
anytime there's wind from the
1:51:21
south. It's it's a nuisance.
It's such a blow and stuff. But
1:51:24
Adam Curry: that wasn't my
question. Have you had Yeah, to
1:51:28
John C Dvorak: 100 years? Okay,
every 100 years? And
1:51:32
Adam Curry: of course, that's
because of climate change. Now,
1:51:34
there's a court case right now,
I think it's in men.
1:51:37
John C Dvorak: By the way, why
would you automatically go to
1:51:38
that? Why do you have to be
brainwashed to go if say climate
1:51:43
change was never discussed or
even thought of? You would you
1:51:48
automatically think climate
change because it's rained a
1:51:51
little bit in Los Angeles, it
rains when it rains in LA and
1:51:55
fills up that dead culvert
called Los Angeles River, which
1:51:59
is a cement thing. They build
just for overflow, and it's
1:52:03
filled. I haven't as a kid, I
remember getting filled and it
1:52:07
gets filled every decade. Well,
1:52:10
Adam Curry: yes, the answer is
yes. There's a trillions of
1:52:14
dollars have been spent for the
past 40 years on psychologically
1:52:18
telling people manipulating
people into believing that
1:52:21
climate changes is killing us. I
heard guy I know pretty well.
1:52:25
Just the other day he's doing
it. He lives in Australia says,
1:52:28
Oh, it's 85 degrees here. Well,
it's climate change. You know,
1:52:32
and we're burning up again and
Australia's climate change.
1:52:36
Yeah, and it's just being used.
We used to say, well, it's
1:52:40
Indian Summer, well, it's hot,
or whatever we'd say it's hot.
1:52:43
It's hot. I remember in the 70s
going back to, to visit from
1:52:49
from Holland and we were in I'm
going to say maybe we're in New
1:52:53
England, and hanging out and you
know, the tar was melting on the
1:52:57
street. And I remember was hot.
I remember cooking an egg in
1:53:00
Vegas for a TV show in 1990. It
was hot. You know, it's not any
1:53:04
hotter. Anyway.
1:53:07
John C Dvorak: Yes. Hot every
year.
1:53:08
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein
remember him? Mark Stein? Mark
1:53:11
Stein?
1:53:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he used to
be good for Mark Levin but many
1:53:15
marks
1:53:16
Adam Curry: used to be on Tucker
and this will
1:53:19
John C Dvorak: be on a lot he
used to be on all the fox and
1:53:21
radio shows all the radio shows
I think even took a brush
1:53:25
Limbaugh seat a couple of times.
Yes.
1:53:28
Adam Curry: So he is in a
lawsuit right now. It's a civil
1:53:31
suit and it's being a defamation
suit by Michael Mann against
1:53:36
marks nine as Mark Stein.
Michael manda director, no
1:53:40
microman the climate change guy
remember the the guy who
1:53:44
manipulated all of the data? Oh,
1:53:47
John C Dvorak: man, the hotline,
the hockey stick guy, the hockey
1:53:50
stick guy.
1:53:51
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein,
probably on a throwaway said,
1:53:54
Well, this is bullcrap. This is
a lie. This has manipulated
1:53:57
data. And this was 12 years ago.
And so you know, he let me see
1:54:04
if I can. What is exactly so
1:54:06
John C Dvorak: it is shut people
up here about 12 years ago.
1:54:10
Adam Curry: He added some
comments to an internet post
1:54:12
written by someone else. His
observations drew oppo here's
1:54:16
the problem I drew a parallel
between Jerry Sandusky. That's
1:54:21
the Penn football coach. The
Fiddler Yeah,
1:54:24
John C Dvorak: the pedophile?
Yes. And man bla he was he was
1:54:27
the he was a trainer guy who
wasn't the coach. Yeah, both
1:54:30
Adam Curry: man and Sandusky
were investigated by Penn
1:54:33
State's administration with
Stein characterized as a cover
1:54:36
up. So that I guess that's where
the problem stems from. But so
1:54:40
now in there in court, and we'll
find out if that hockey stick
1:54:48
chart was bullcrap or not. And
from what I understand, you
1:54:51
know, a lot of the experts that
Stein wants to bring in are not
1:54:54
being allowed by the you know,
because it says our justice
1:54:57
system is great. So while that's
happening There's a pseudo when
1:55:02
in the European Union,
everyone's like, yeah, the
1:55:06
farmers did it we made European
1:55:08
Unknown: Union has dropped a key
part of its 2040 proposal
1:55:12
requiring agricultural emissions
to be cut by 30%. That's a big
1:55:17
deal. The move comes as Spanish
farmers staged protests across
1:55:22
the country, as you see right
there using tractors to block
1:55:24
roads in some areas. They're
joining farmers in Germany,
1:55:28
France and other European
countries who have held similar
1:55:31
protests in recent weeks.
Farmers are angry about rising
1:55:35
costs, high levels of
bureaucracy and competition from
1:55:38
non EU countries.
1:55:40
Adam Curry: So here's what I
understand what happened. The
1:55:44
European Union said, we're going
to drop this, you don't have to
1:55:47
cut 30% and co2. But two days
before they did that, the EU
1:55:53
Commission said tougher climate
targets upping the co2 level
1:56:00
reduction from 55% by 2040 2050.
To 90%. So while everyone
1:56:10
thought they got a deal, they
actually got screwed. Ah, yeah.
1:56:18
And this is not reported it. Oh,
I mean, I got a report but I
1:56:22
have no no news report. So
that's all they did. I said, All
1:56:26
right. We're gonna do we're
gonna I'm gonna screw these guys
1:56:28
in this gonna change this from
55 to an up to 90. Yeah, we'll
1:56:32
give you 30% off. No, it's the
same. So what did they get 40
1:56:36
fives and really got a 5%
difference which who How do you
1:56:39
even count that anyway?
1:56:43
John C Dvorak: Well, the Federal
Reserve will figure this out.
1:56:47
Well,
1:56:48
Adam Curry: eventually, but the
momentum is gone. You know the
1:56:50
momentum? Oh, yeah. We farmers
go farmers, you beat him
1:56:54
farmers. The momentum
1:56:55
John C Dvorak: is never achieved
what the goals that should have
1:56:58
been achieved in the first
place. Americans are totally
1:57:01
unaware that this is going on.
1:57:03
Adam Curry: So because you don't
see any of it. You don't want
1:57:04
our farmers getting all up in in
everybody's grill if our farmers
1:57:08
really got mad. I mean, that
would paralyze everything. Yeah,
1:57:13
I don't think we're going to I
don't think that's going to
1:57:15
happen. Okay, I have two farmers
stories, which I think are
1:57:22
important. The first one is,
this is this is it's kind of a
1:57:28
two in one story about
depression, and then about your
1:57:35
immunity. And they both somehow
can be measured in your blood.
1:57:43
Unknown: On the medical watch a
possible blood test to diagnose
1:57:46
depression. A medical reporter
Dina Barrett joins us now with
1:57:48
this novel idea, Deena. Then in
Lourdes Johns Hopkins
1:57:52
researchers say they're making
progress toward a simple test
1:57:55
for psychiatric and neurologic
disorders. They use genetic
1:57:59
material from human blood, along
with lab grown brain cells. They
1:58:03
say in the blood, they could see
disease associated changes in
1:58:07
the brain linked to postpartum
depression and other disorders.
1:58:11
Scientists say the footprints of
brain cell derived changes
1:58:14
circulate outside the brain with
a blood draw doctor say they can
1:58:18
detect changes in gene activity
inside the brain that indicate
1:58:22
mental and physical diseases.
1:58:24
Adam Curry: So first of all,
they talk about a lab grown
1:58:27
brain which is just kind of
glossed over what are we
1:58:30
drinking there, John?
1:58:32
John C Dvorak: Today's drink is
origin. Refreshing, sparkling
1:58:37
American spring water. Oh,
1:58:40
Adam Curry: is it just spring
water? There's nothing else in
1:58:42
it and it comes in a candidate.
1:58:44
John C Dvorak: It didn't add any
electrolytes. Is it
1:58:47
Adam Curry: carbonated? Because
when I heard this, it is
1:58:49
John C Dvorak: sparkling.
Sparkling.
1:58:52
Adam Curry: So I this kind of
accentuates what I think is
1:58:56
bullcrap. Which is that
depression is your brain
1:59:00
chemistry. Oh, no, it's nothing
you can do. It's not how your
1:59:05
thinking was not the thoughts.
No, it's your brain chemistry.
1:59:09
And now they can lead you to
being brainwashed. Now they can
1:59:12
measure that in the blood
somehow. So that'll be even
1:59:16
easier. Oh, Doc, I feel kind of
depressed. Let me just prick
1:59:20
your finger up. Yep, yep, yep,
yep, yep, yep, good to go.
1:59:22
Here's the medication. And then
when you're depressed, well,
1:59:25
that's really bad for your
immunity.
1:59:28
Unknown: We've long known stress
can hamper immunity. And now
1:59:31
doctors have figured out why
Mount Sinai researchers
1:59:34
discovered stress increases an
enzyme in the blood which
1:59:37
travels to the brain, altering
the function of neurons. They
1:59:41
have heard neurons lead to
behavioral changes and reduced
1:59:44
immune function. Study authors
say knowing the mind body
1:59:47
mechanism. They hope to target
the protein to treat stress
1:59:50
related mental health as well as
immune and nervous system
1:59:54
diseases. And they believe
testing for the protein could
1:59:57
help them identify patients in
need of treatment. You
2:00:01
John C Dvorak: see a lot of
expensive testing? Yes, by the
2:00:04
way is so so depression equals
stress. I'd ever heard that
2:00:08
before. Yes.
2:00:09
Adam Curry: And that equals low
immunity, which is why the shots
2:00:12
didn't work. Don't you get it?
Oh, get it asked because I get
2:00:18
stressed you're stressed. That's
why the shots don't work your
2:00:21
immunity depletes. So you should
probably have another booster.
2:00:27
John C Dvorak: Booster covalent.
Now, now,
2:00:31
Adam Curry: let's look at mRNA.
Because there's a lot of
2:00:33
exciting news about mRNA. We
have Oh, my goodness, cancer
2:00:40
vaccines being trialed a dawn of
a new age of treatments, it's
2:00:44
all mRNA. And Bill Gates, the
gift who keeps on giving, he
2:00:50
really really let it all hang
out in this one minute clip, as
2:00:55
he admits, admits what we've all
been thinking and talking about
2:01:01
or been told was conspiracy
theory about the lipo nano nano
2:01:05
particles. You know, they were
the lipid nanoparticles, self
2:01:10
assembling and doing stuff too.
You know, that's just conspiracy
2:01:15
theory, listen to how jacked he
is about mRNA.
2:01:18
Unknown: Making the mRNA is
really easy and really cheap.
2:01:22
Adam Curry: Really, really not
just easy, it's easy and cheap.
2:01:26
Making
2:01:26
Unknown: the mRNA is really easy
and really cheap. And that's the
2:01:30
magic of this thing. But there's
no doubt in the next five years,
2:01:34
we can, you know, we just need
to mess around. There's a lot of
2:01:38
lipid now,
2:01:39
Adam Curry: you would just mess
around a little bit with it, you
2:01:41
would just put this we've
already been trying it for the
2:01:44
past few years and the COVID
chessell Misurata. We
2:01:47
Unknown: can, you know, we just
seem to mess around. There's a
2:01:50
lot of lipid nanoparticles, and
some are very self assembling.
2:01:54
There's no one here. Whoa.
2:01:57
Adam Curry: So first, he laughs
hills. There's a lot of lipid
2:02:00
nanoparticles. I mean, what
there's just in your desk
2:02:04
drawer, or does he mean in
people already, and they're self
2:02:09
assembling already, you
2:02:10
Unknown: know, we just seem to
mess around. There's a lot of
2:02:13
lipid nanoparticles. And some
are very self assembling.
2:02:16
There's no inherent reason it's
not thermal stable. It's not
2:02:19
cheap, and it's not scalable.
And so as over the five years,
2:02:23
we fix that part of it mature
it, which is very typical. We'll
2:02:28
be able to build factories
worldwide, that make $2 vaccines
2:02:33
with even less lead time than
we've had to have here during
2:02:37
this pandemic. And we'll use
those as you suggest. For every
2:02:42
disease that we don't have
vaccines, we will try mRNA. In
2:02:46
fact, for HIV, we have multiple
ways. One that's more of a B
2:02:49
cell approach one that's more of
a T cell approach. You know,
2:02:52
from malaria, we have multiple
ideas for TB, we have multiple
2:02:55
ideas. And so to fill in the
missing vaccines, we will we'll
2:03:01
make a lot of our bets of the
Gates Foundation, and others who
2:03:05
care about global health. We'll
be mRNA focused Yay.
2:03:13
Adam Curry: I recommend probably
not taking it. Whatever he comes
2:03:18
up with. And someone reminded me
of a bill that has been in
2:03:25
Congress or don't it's not come
to the floor it's probably in
2:03:27
committees. Senate Bill 596
Which re explains a lot of the a
2:03:36
lot of the push of the GLP one
the semaglutide drugs will go V
2:03:41
ozempic etc. It is called the
treat and reduce reduce obesity
2:03:47
act and it spells out that they
want these drugs to be on
2:03:52
Medicare
2:03:54
John C Dvorak: yeah because it's
it's easy money.
2:03:56
Adam Curry: It's very easy money
and Novo Nordisk just bought the
2:04:01
manufacturing company that makes
the injectables Yeah. Which is
2:04:08
now I heard on DHL unplugged
that's one of the only companies
2:04:12
that does that.
2:04:15
John C Dvorak: I think that's
what we discovered $16
2:04:17
Adam Curry: billion acquisition
no slouch
2:04:21
John C Dvorak: acquisition now
it's
2:04:22
Adam Curry: a great acquisition.
But
2:04:27
John C Dvorak: I have a I don't
know what this is. It's probably
2:04:34
anymore I've COVID clips, no
2:04:37
Adam Curry: more clips. I'm just
looking if I had any other any
2:04:40
other.
2:04:43
John C Dvorak: I have two weird
offbeat clips that we can
2:04:45
interrupt things with. Okay. I
want to Rona is out false claim
2:04:49
clip.
2:04:50
Adam Curry: Right the second
Rona is out false claim clip is
2:04:54
this Amy?
2:04:56
John C Dvorak: No Amy, I do not
have any today,
2:04:58
Unknown: okay in other political
news As the chair of the
2:05:00
Republican National Committee,
Ronna McDaniel, has reportedly
2:05:04
agreed to resign after coming
under intense pressure from
2:05:07
Donald Trump. McDaniel plans to
step down after the South
2:05:11
Carolina primary. Trump is
reportedly pushing from Michael
2:05:14
Watley, the chair of the North
Carolina Republican Party to
2:05:18
become the new head of the RNC.
What Lee is a prominent election
2:05:22
denier who endorsed Trump's
false claims about the 2020
2:05:26
election being stolen?
2:05:28
Adam Curry: Hold on a sec. Okay,
hold on. I have a question.
2:05:30
John C Dvorak: I get a question.
Okay.
2:05:32
Adam Curry: If Trump can just
make everybody vote no,
2:05:35
including Chuck Schumer, I mean,
why why does he have to go
2:05:38
through a hole weird Kenny just
call up and say Rona, you're
2:05:41
out. New lady you're in I mean,
doesn't have a
2:05:45
John C Dvorak: bunch of people
that have to vote her in or they
2:05:47
already he already tried to get
her out like a year ago, and he
2:05:50
couldn't do it. voted her in it
was powerful. Now he's where he
2:05:55
is powerful enough to influence
a couple of people. But I want
2:05:58
to the reason I play this clip
is because I want to reiterate
2:06:03
the bad journalism. And it's
done by all the networks as done
2:06:07
by Amy's group and everyone else
to use the term false claim.
2:06:13
Adam Curry: Yes,
2:06:14
John C Dvorak: it's either a
claim, or it's not a claim. It's
2:06:17
not. You can't have a false
claim. You just like claim, you
2:06:23
claim that the moonlit landing
never happened. That's your
2:06:27
claim. That's what you're you
use based on a belief of yours.
2:06:30
It's not a false claim.
2:06:32
Adam Curry: It's a claim
science.
2:06:34
John C Dvorak: What is a false
claim that word makes the or
2:06:37
that phrase makes zero sense.
And it's only used to to target
2:06:42
the individual being, in this
case, Trump to make him look
2:06:46
like he's a liar because they
like to promote the idea that
2:06:49
he's a liar. Well, nobody even
cares about about Biden's you
2:06:54
know, talking about a liar. In
fact, let's play Biden talking
2:06:58
to Mitterrand.
2:07:00
Unknown: Last night, Joe Biden
did his first campaign rally of
2:07:03
the 2024 election in Las Vegas,
Nevada. And during his speech,
2:07:07
he claimed to have recently met
with a French president who died
2:07:12
Hold
2:07:12
Adam Curry: on a second, proper
use of the word. Indeed, proper
2:07:18
use of the word so you said they
all do it. In fact, your claim
2:07:21
was false. It was my claim. You
claim that all journalists do
2:07:28
this.
2:07:30
John C Dvorak: No, I'm talking
about you didn't say false
2:07:33
claim. No, I
2:07:34
Adam Curry: know. That's what
I'm say. You said all
2:07:36
journalists use this so he's a
2:07:38
John C Dvorak: journalist. He's
a tick tock tick tock are much
2:07:42
Unknown: better than journalism
in Las Vegas, Nevada. And during
2:07:45
his speech he claimed to have
recently met with a French
2:07:49
president who died over three
decades ago. Yeah, this guy is
2:07:53
losing it.
2:07:55
Right right after I was elected,
I went to what they call a g7
2:07:59
meeting all the NATO favors I
was in South England and I sat
2:08:05
down and I said America's back
and later on from Germany I mean
2:08:11
from France
2:08:20
John C Dvorak: wait how long you
back this is great sadness of
2:08:26
that is that this actually kind
of a funny line and he managed
2:08:29
to deliver it well. But
Mitterrand Miran was
2:08:34
Adam Curry: dead. Well, first he
said made around was from
2:08:37
Germany, then he was French
makes it even. Yeah, but you
2:08:40
know what they say? Dead people
start to see dead people are
2:08:44
almost dead people. When you're
about to die, you see dead
2:08:46
people. Maybe he's on the verge.
Now maybe he's seeing dead
2:08:48
people
2:08:51
John C Dvorak: might be possible
and shaking his head on the
2:08:54
podium with people that aren't
there.
2:08:58
Adam Curry: Okay, here's one for
you because this is something
2:09:01
that you are an expert on you do
this test yourself from time to
2:09:04
time a quality. This is not just
a quality but a quantity test
2:09:09
and people are getting pissed
off.
2:09:10
Unknown: McDonald's is
acknowledging it's time to put
2:09:12
affordability back on the menu
and add more options to its
2:09:15
dollar menu. Its stock took a
hit this week after the fast
2:09:18
food giant reported a recent
drop in visits by its key
2:09:21
customers who make $45,000 a
year or less. And a lot of
2:09:25
people have taken to social
media to complain about it.
2:09:28
Joining us now is Vanessa your
cabbage. So Vanessa McDonald
2:09:32
says with inflation cooling down
to the supermarket, eating at
2:09:35
home is becoming the more
affordable choice for many here
2:09:39
always has been put go to
McDonald's because it's fast.
2:09:42
It's reliable and it's
affordable and tasty. And for
2:09:45
many Americans right now they're
saying that's just not the case.
2:09:48
And that is because to buy
groceries and eat at home.
2:09:52
Prices are only up 1.3% Compare
that to going out to dinner 5.2%
2:09:59
below Get McDonald's prices.
They have said that they've had
2:10:03
to raise prices by 10%.
2:10:07
Adam Curry: This is great. This
is fantastic. They're crazy.
2:10:10
It's I mean, the quality is just
crap. It's getting worse.
2:10:15
Really? When's the last time you
went? Don't you always go to try
2:10:18
and eat a burger? I
2:10:18
John C Dvorak: go orderly. I've
got a I've got a visit coming.
2:10:25
I'm not sure when I'm gonna go.
But when I do, I'll be reporting
2:10:29
in.
2:10:30
Adam Curry: But the hashbrown.
One hashbrowns. Were even tried
2:10:34
$3 $3
2:10:37
John C Dvorak: You know what
your potato costs are,
2:10:39
Adam Curry: you can get three
pounds for three more.
2:10:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you haven't
hashbrowns for the rest of your
2:10:45
life. But this but
2:10:46
Adam Curry: you know, these are
trends, you know. So the trend
2:10:48
is going to be more eating at
home. This, this is a cleansing
2:10:53
and a shaking.
2:10:54
John C Dvorak: Bunch of I didn't
get again, I didn't get clips on
2:10:56
this, but I didn't think about
it. There was a bunch of reports
2:11:00
recently about I think there's
mostly played on Fox on the fact
2:11:05
that the Gen Z in particular,
don't go to bars. They drink at
2:11:10
home, and they're not gonna go
to bars because it's too
2:11:13
expensive. By the way, as
opposed to Gen Xers. We used to
2:11:17
do a kind of a show on me the
old that was a Gen X show, I'd
2:11:23
have all these Gen X and we
talked about stuff including
2:11:26
their drinking habits and they
were all a bunch of alcoholics.
2:11:29
Gen X are a bunch of drunks with
the Gen Z's or if you're if
2:11:35
they're drunk show is going to
know it because they stay at
2:11:37
home. You
2:11:38
Adam Curry: can't you if you go
out. I don't know when the last
2:11:41
time you went
2:11:41
John C Dvorak: out and had to
drive went out to the mallard
2:11:44
club for the meetup was
2:11:46
Adam Curry: a glass of wine
these days. If you just want a
2:11:48
glass of wine and Tina and I
don't drink much, please have a
2:11:51
glass of wine. 30 bucks for two
glasses of wine. Yes.
2:11:56
John C Dvorak: Now that you got
ripped off? Well, you must be
2:11:59
going to your places you're
going to or too expensive. Well,
2:12:02
or is that Texas wine. They
always overcharge for that
2:12:05
stuff.
2:12:05
Adam Curry: We do. There's this
there's this place that reopened
2:12:08
called Freedland, which is a
German, like brought house.
2:12:15
Schnitzel house. Yeah. And
that's fantastic. They give you
2:12:19
an eight all
2:12:20
John C Dvorak: German German
town like Fredericksburg. I hope
2:12:23
they have something like Oh
yeah,
2:12:24
Adam Curry: it's really good.
And it's really that's
2:12:27
affordable. They do have these
places, and it's better
2:12:30
ingredients. The wine, you just
say you got a Cabernet, it's got
2:12:34
some fancy name on the menu. I
don't know where it's from. They
2:12:38
bring it to you in a big glass.
It's really heavy. You know,
2:12:41
it's like the kind that if it
falls over, it'll never break.
2:12:45
Even though it has a stamp. And
German. Yeah, it's $9. You know,
2:12:51
that's, that's more reasonable
as eight ounce pour. That's more
2:12:55
reasonable for a restaurant
wine. But yeah, yeah, I'd say
2:12:59
everything is everything is
unaffordable. The Ubers are
2:13:02
unaffordable. I mean, it's what
they call that inflation. Yes,
2:13:06
that's what it is. Now, my last
clip before we take a break, we
2:13:11
talked during the pandemic, and
I'm pretty sure we put it in the
2:13:15
Red Book. I haven't been able to
find the clip yet. I think we
2:13:17
put it in the Red Book that
people would probably never want
2:13:22
to go back to work in office
buildings. You may have in watch
2:13:27
that people would not want to go
back to work at the office that
2:13:30
John C Dvorak: they want study
office. Yeah, they rather work
2:13:32
from home. Yeah, well, I
2:13:33
Adam Curry: think you even said
no, because I look at all this
2:13:35
technology they're building and
and zoom exploded and slack
2:13:40
exploded and Microsoft teams got
used for everything. And now
2:13:44
they just can't get them back.
And commercial real estate.
2:13:49
That's the big talk here, then,
but by the
2:13:51
John C Dvorak: way, let's stop
and make mention here. What if
2:13:56
you've worked from home? I mean,
I've been at the home office guy
2:13:59
forever. But if you work from
home and you enjoy it and you
2:14:02
think you're productive and
you're doing it during the
2:14:05
pandemic, and you're
everything's going fine and
2:14:07
you're getting your work done
and everything why would you
2:14:10
want to go back to the office
and why would they want you back
2:14:12
in the office when you're doing
just fine? I think there's I
2:14:15
think there's a in the brains of
the home of the people that work
2:14:18
at home and like working at home
they don't understand why they
2:14:22
should go back to the office
when they know they're not as
2:14:24
productive. They're
2:14:26
Adam Curry: agreed. But it's a
real problem because we do not
2:14:30
have solutions for the
commercial real estate.
2:14:33
John C Dvorak: Course Nope.
2:14:34
Adam Curry: By the by the way. I
think my my prediction of Apple
2:14:38
vision Pro is coming true. This
is exactly not this version will
2:14:43
take another version. This is
exactly what people are living
2:14:46
in their little home pods. You
know your little five by five
2:14:50
house. You know with your bed in
the living room. This is called
2:14:54
a tiny home. Yeah, tiny home.
This is what everybody's going
2:14:57
to love. And just have your big
makes the house look bigger. You
2:15:01
have your big monster screen
mirrors
2:15:03
John C Dvorak: on the walls and
we put one of those glasses on
2:15:05
boom, Pierre the mansion. People
think
2:15:07
Adam Curry: this is a dumb idea.
This is dumb product. I think
2:15:09
it's a big winner. It'll be the
next version. That'll be the big
2:15:11
winner. It's a winner. It's a
winner. I don't like it. No, it
2:15:17
looks horrible. But I think it's
going to glass all over it then
2:15:20
better than Google Glass because
it is it spatial computing. This
2:15:26
not V VR AR Mr. Mix gonna
2:15:29
John C Dvorak: ruin your brain?
2:15:30
Adam Curry: It's Yes. Well, how
much more can we ruin? It's
2:15:32
great. Now this, this is exactly
what we need. This is the future
2:15:40
of the work from home worker,
and everyone will be doing it.
2:15:44
But the commercial real estate,
I don't I have no ideas for it.
2:15:48
Other than putting the new
comers in there, which is
2:15:52
probably the way to go. And our
Secretary of the Treasury is
2:15:56
kind of concerned.
2:15:57
Unknown: Yes, I do have a
concern about commercial real
2:16:00
estate. We discussed it in the F
sock annual report, and F sock
2:16:06
has been quite focused on it.
The banking supervisors have
2:16:12
also been focused on commercial
real estate and are working
2:16:19
closely with the banks they
supervise, to discuss ways to
2:16:25
manage and work with borrowers
who have problems. There, in
2:16:31
some cases, working to make sure
that loan loss reserves are
2:16:37
built up to cover losses that
dividend policies are
2:16:44
appropriate that liquidity is
adequate. So the higher interest
2:16:50
rate environment, and in some
cases, particularly the case of
2:16:55
office building, shifts in work
patterns due to the pandemic
2:17:03
coupled with many commercial
real estate loans coming due and
2:17:07
needing to be financed,
refinanced in a context where
2:17:13
vacancy rates in some cities are
quite high, is going to put a
2:17:20
lot of stress on the owners of
these properties. And so lately,
2:17:26
the banking agencies are very
focused in helping the banks
2:17:30
manage, manage through these
situations. So you're concerned
2:17:35
but not distressed? Yes, I mean,
yes, I'm concerned. I believe
2:17:43
it's manageable, although there
may be some institutions that
2:17:48
are quite stressed by this
2:17:50
Adam Curry: problem. Yeah, like
those regional banks. That
2:17:55
doesn't seem to be going too
well again, do you think they
2:17:58
can keep it together until the
until the collapse when Trump is
2:18:01
in
2:18:02
John C Dvorak: as is our thesis?
Oh, yeah, that shouldn't be a
2:18:04
problem. How do they
2:18:05
Adam Curry: how do you do it
with the interest rates aren't
2:18:07
being cut so the refinance is
all coming up?
2:18:12
John C Dvorak: You do this
there's tricks of accounting
2:18:15
trickery for the banks I don't
know about New York's community
2:18:19
is the big one that's it looks
like it's gonna fail but yeah,
2:18:22
yeah. But it can sneak through
New York communities that one
2:18:27
day they gave Signature Bank to
and it was a very interesting
2:18:30
isn't that bad first days here
take this take that take this
2:18:33
and now live with it.
2:18:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, now they can't
do they just make one bank take
2:18:39
all the bad stuff and then blow
that one?
2:18:41
John C Dvorak: That's a pretty
good trick like that's one trick
2:18:44
but they're gonna affect the
other thing was there is an
2:18:46
issue with the you look at these
empty buildings, they're all
2:18:50
over them and they were building
and right through COVID You
2:18:53
know, the skyline you could tell
you were putting up bigger and
2:18:56
bigger buildings in New York is
the one that you know if you
2:18:59
remember, we discussed this that
the storefronts are all this was
2:19:03
before COVID, the storefronts
and they were buttoning
2:19:06
everything up in New York and it
was kind of half dead because
2:19:08
they were holding out the
landlord's you're holding out
2:19:12
for more money
2:19:14
Adam Curry: for the flip for the
flip.
2:19:17
John C Dvorak: And they never it
never happened because COVID
2:19:19
showed up and the next thing you
know these guys are stuck
2:19:21
holding the bag of, you know,
useless real estate. High end
2:19:26
real estate. Warren Buffett 10
years ago. I think he got out of
2:19:30
most of it and told everyone to
get into rentals.
2:19:34
Adam Curry: Well, so what's
happening here on Main Street is
2:19:38
rents went from for typical
store from $10,000 a month to
2:19:43
$30,000 a month. Frederick's
yeah stores are closing left.
2:19:47
Why? Because the the owners of
these properties who don't live
2:19:54
here who just invested they,
they probably have to get more
2:19:59
money. to pay off the note
that's what I'm thinking it's
2:20:05
commercial real estate's the
same issue. And the stores is
2:20:09
like, nope. Except for the this
is one store. I think that just
2:20:16
money laundering it's like some
Lebanese in there or something.
2:20:21
I don't know what they're doing.
I never see anyone in the store.
2:20:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when I see
a store that's always empty is
2:20:27
big and they realize a lot of
money there as money locked in,
2:20:31
there's gotta be there was a
store. I can't remember this was
2:20:35
years ago, but I remember that
place and Horowitz and I talked
2:20:38
about it and then that turned
out to be one in San Francisco
2:20:42
that I went by and it was
exactly like what you're
2:20:44
describing nobody a big store.
Nobody's in the place at all.
2:20:51
And and it was has to be some
sort of money laundering
2:20:55
operation for the drug business.
2:20:57
Adam Curry: But we're seeing the
same with you know, we have 25%
2:21:01
of our housing here is Airbnb or
used to be b&b. Let's just call
2:21:06
Airbnb. And people are having to
sell those now because of the
2:21:12
the taxes. If you want to come
to Fredericksburg, stay in an
2:21:16
Airbnb. You're it's you have to
take two nights, you can't just
2:21:20
have one night, you have to take
two nights and before I know
2:21:23
it's like two grand. Like no, go
to Mexico go to Mexico. Why
2:21:28
would you come here? Yeah, this
but I think this problem is
2:21:31
everywhere right now.
2:21:32
John C Dvorak: I think so too. I
know. It's a case in Port
2:21:35
Angeles where Mimi is in the
planning commission, because
2:21:38
they're trying to kill all the
Airbnbs up there, even though
2:21:42
they're run by people just on a
fixed income. Yeah, they there's
2:21:47
no real reason for that. Oh, no,
this is no good. Can't have this
2:21:51
in our bustling town, which is,
you know, half dead anyway.
2:21:57
Adam Curry: All right. 111
upbeat clip. Just before we take
2:22:01
this break, so we can just
refresh our minds for a second
2:22:04
get back to the
2:22:04
Unknown: Opticon is just as
Taylor Swift obsessed as the
2:22:08
United States. But it's not just
about the fandom. It's also
2:22:12
about the economic revenue.
Experts tell us that Taylor
2:22:15
Swift Four Day concert will
generate more than 230 million
2:22:20
US dollars for Japan. Now the
burning question that I'm sure
2:22:23
is on both of your mind. In my
mind, will Taylor Swift make it
2:22:27
back in time by Superbowl Sunday
to kiss her boyfriend Travis
2:22:31
Kelce. Now I'm no betting woman
but I'm going to say with quite
2:22:34
a bit of confidence that she
will make it back in time.
2:22:37
It does not take time travel,
just a private jet, which
2:22:39
she does own. And you know, she
kind of has to make it back for
2:22:44
that Super Bowl, because why
else would we watch it? Am I
2:22:46
right? Well, you're definitely
right. That is the burning
2:22:50
question Phil has been bothering
me about since three o'clock
2:22:53
this morning. Will Taylor Swift
be able to kiss Travis Kelce
2:22:58
think about all he thinks about
and like go thank you very much.
2:23:01
Adam Curry: All right. Here's my
prediction. I might as well give
2:23:04
it now we can do it with you
John
2:23:06
John C Dvorak: by the football
game. We have another show
2:23:08
before the football Yeah, but I
just
2:23:10
Adam Curry: want to put it out
there so I can get everything
2:23:11
all everybody all jacked up.
This is we are at peak Swift. I
2:23:17
agree could not be much higher.
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: She got her
fourth by the way. She got her
2:23:21
fourth Grammy for Best Album of
the art Album of the Year
2:23:26
topping and the Beatles Well, no
no Stevie Wonder remember, they
2:23:32
went a period of time with one
wonder was winning and winning
2:23:35
and winning one
2:23:36
Adam Curry: Stevie Wonder the
musical genius Stevie Wonder.
2:23:38
Now I know. I know the ground
and
2:23:40
John C Dvorak: say that you can
even hum a Taylor Swift song
2:23:42
Stevie Wonder had so many hits.
Yeah. And the albums were
2:23:47
killer. And now she's okay.
Well. She was waltzes into the
2:23:53
Grammys during the show.
2:23:55
Adam Curry: Their fan with her
with her. entourage. Yes,
2:23:59
entourage. Yes.
2:24:00
John C Dvorak: It was like what
how did they allow this? Well,
2:24:04
Adam Curry: it's all a show. Did
you see Olivia Rodrigo? That was
2:24:08
the performance I was waiting
for. Yeah, that's
2:24:11
John C Dvorak: the satanists.
Rabia, the poor satanist red
2:24:15
Adam Curry: dress, rubbing blood
over her face in her chest.
2:24:18
Beautiful. Well done, everybody.
Well done. Well done. Perfect.
2:24:23
I'm glad to see that they're
still full on dervish, dervish
2:24:28
SNESs at the Grammys just
beautiful
2:24:30
John C Dvorak: as it was pretty
well then of course the joke of
2:24:33
the Grammys was Big Mike who
came out and praise God got
2:24:39
arrested this in a group as as
the way it was put his praising
2:24:42
God in a group of Satanists.
Yeah. Already got arrested
2:24:45
immediately thereafter.
2:24:48
Adam Curry: Whoa, that's right.
touch the third rail at the
2:24:50
Grammys. You can't do that Big
Mike. We all know this. Poor Big
2:24:55
Mike. Yes. So we're at peak
Taylor peak swift She has not
2:25:01
adhered to the rule. When you
seek out publicity for your own
2:25:05
benefit whether you're paid for
it or not. It boomerangs and
2:25:09
yeah, always, always and so the
one I'm when I'm feeling is
2:25:17
Kelsey is it Kelsey? Kelsey do
we say Kelsey thing is Kelsey
2:25:21
Kelsey. Some people say Kelsey,
Travis,
2:25:23
John C Dvorak: Kelsey do
whatever your nails they say the
2:25:26
family pronounces a Kelsey, the,
the announcers who are
2:25:30
professionals pronounce it,
Kelsey. It's Kelsey.
2:25:32
Adam Curry: We'll keep it at
Kelsey. Kelsey will fumble the
2:25:38
ball. Yeah, it'll be picked up
by the 40 Niners for the first
2:25:42
time I live, I'm gonna say Go 40
Niners they will run it all the
2:25:46
way for a winning touchdown. And
Taylor will get all the blame.
2:25:51
But they will hype Taylor and
Kelsey by cutting to cutting to
2:25:57
the aviation map show. Oh, here
she is. She's over the Atlantic
2:26:00
she's on her way.
2:26:01
John C Dvorak: Like like Santa
Claus. Yeah, yes. Exactly.
2:26:04
Adam Curry: NORAD will be will
be reporting in if if Taylor
2:26:08
Swift is on her way. And then
they'll cut away to her she
2:26:11
could just like what the Grammy
she comes in late. You know,
2:26:14
probably during the halftime
show the cutaway who's doing the
2:26:16
halftime show, by the way do we
2:26:17
John C Dvorak: know? Yeah, I
know. But I can't think of it.
2:26:21
And then
2:26:22
Adam Curry: and and then and she
will be blamed for the loss. And
2:26:27
and then she goes as a
distraction. Yes, you'll have to
2:26:29
sit down for a little while.
She'll be okay. But this mean
2:26:33
what more could she achieve
other than getting on Elon
2:26:36
Musk's rocket and going to Mars
I mean, there's not much more
2:26:39
she could achieve. There is no
she
2:26:42
John C Dvorak: could achieve
making making a really good song
2:26:44
that was achieved.
2:26:46
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
2:26:47
courage in the morning to the
man who put the sea in citizen
2:26:50
Trump say hello to my friend on
the other end one only Mr. John
2:26:53
Cena
2:26:56
John C Dvorak: money UNISTREAM
Karina Myrna ships at sea the
2:26:59
boots on the ground the feet in
the air. The soldiers in the
2:27:01
water and the Dames and the
Knights out there in the
2:27:03
morning.
2:27:08
Adam Curry: Oh my 1742 Bad troll
edge.
2:27:14
John C Dvorak: Thursday, isn't
it? Yes. Well, the numbers 1800
2:27:18
We're looking for. It's not bad
at all.
2:27:20
Adam Curry: Well, what's low
you're supposed to say is low.
2:27:22
John C Dvorak: It's only low 50.
2:27:24
Adam Curry: Okay, all right.
Well, I felt it was a little
2:27:26
low. I just I saw the 17 number
and like the slow.
2:27:29
John C Dvorak: last Sunday's
number was the low one hours low
2:27:32
low. Although
2:27:33
Adam Curry: a lot of like a lot
of people like last Sunday show
2:27:36
John C Dvorak: these things.
They may have liked it but they
2:27:38
weren't listening live
necessarily. Oh, that's
2:27:40
Adam Curry: why that's why well,
trolls are here. Trolls are in
2:27:43
attendance. It's just lowly that
lowly trolls. Maybe they're just
2:27:48
slow. You're all low, low and
slow. Most
2:27:51
John C Dvorak: of the countries
got bad weather. So they should
2:27:54
catch the trolls but they're
digging snow. Maybe they're
2:27:56
doing things that are more
important than listening to the
2:27:58
show live there. They can listen
to the show that when they feel
2:28:02
like they're Yes, yes. They feel
like that's what podcasting is
2:28:05
all about. Good
2:28:06
Adam Curry: point. We love our
trolls though, because they keep
2:28:09
us on our toes. They get us
information. They keep me very
2:28:14
awake. Because always scrolling
by out of the my peripheral
2:28:18
vision. They're saying horrible
things, you know. And I was
2:28:20
like, JC D is a national
treasure. You know, is that was
2:28:25
that
2:28:25
John C Dvorak: a horrible thing?
Well, they say that about you
2:28:27
eyes, man or woman.
2:28:30
Adam Curry: But for me, that's
like a Curie, you're full of
2:28:32
crap. I know. It's like, I'm
gonna let you know that you know
2:28:37
what we
2:28:37
John C Dvorak: can prevent that?
2:28:39
Adam Curry: By not looking at,
you know, the trolls,
2:28:43
John C Dvorak: always looking
for the one liners that somebody
2:28:45
else writes. Yes, fine. That's
what the pros that's,
2:28:48
Adam Curry: that's yes. Thank
you. Thank you very much. You
2:28:51
can join the trolls at troll
room.io. It is a live chat room.
2:28:56
You can also get to it with an
IRC client, one of the oldest
2:29:00
technologies on the internet,
which is still very valid, it is
2:29:04
great because you can Internet
Relay Chat, you can sit in the
2:29:07
Internet Relay Chat all day,
there are trolls logged in all
2:29:10
the time. There may be some
people who have died and are
2:29:13
still logged in on the troll
room. I believe that's to be
2:29:16
true. It's actually could be
true. And login from a Unix
2:29:19
machine at work and then forget
about it. And then you just
2:29:22
still run and died suddenly and
you're still there.
2:29:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it could be
you could be on a Linux you
2:29:30
could be in a virtual a virtual
connection through running
2:29:36
through AWS on a subscription
that doesn't get goes on for a
2:29:40
couple of years. You paid it in
advance, and you'd be in the IRC
2:29:43
dead for years literally. And
2:29:49
Adam Curry: that's a great site.
I got to take a look at some of
2:29:51
the login times for people who
have been logged in the longest.
2:29:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we better
just have somebody go by their
2:29:57
house.
2:30:00
Adam Curry: You can also get to
this through a number of the
2:30:03
modern podcast apps. Good news.
Guess who's back on all the
2:30:08
apps, including the modern
podcast apps? Joe Rogan, Joe
2:30:11
Rogan? Oh, yeah, he's back. Now
his RSS feed was reactivated.
2:30:17
And now you have no reason to
use Spotify at all? No,
2:30:22
John C Dvorak: there was never a
reason in the first place. Yep.
2:30:25
And
2:30:25
Adam Curry: you'll recall that
we declined to be on Spotify,
2:30:29
we're not going to sign any
rights away, because that's what
2:30:31
you had to do. Yes, you so sign
this piece of paper? Nope, we're
2:30:33
not gonna do that. And I feel
like we resisted it was good.
2:30:37
And now, now everybody doesn't
need to default to Spotify, you
2:30:41
can get color daddy and Joe
Rogan and your no agenda show on
2:30:45
any modern podcast app at modern
podcast apps.com, which also
2:30:49
alert you within 90 seconds of
updating the show. And I'm going
2:30:54
to make sure that Joe gets on
that program as well. People
2:30:56
like that, instead of waiting
around like refreshing, who's up
2:31:00
yet, you'll get notified
immediately. Same happens with
2:31:03
our live shows. When we go live,
you get a notification. Value
2:31:08
for value is how we have
survived. How we've been just
2:31:12
getting by for all these years,
16 years, you've kept us alive,
2:31:17
you've kept us going through
your time, your talent, your
2:31:19
treasure, part of that time and
time and talent is the troll
2:31:23
room, which has been with us for
14 of those 16 years, I think 13
2:31:27
or 14, that's void zero. He's
just kept that alive and going
2:31:32
and people do many things for
us, really is quite phenomenal.
2:31:36
The things that people do for
the show, which is the polar
2:31:40
opposite of what all the big
money went to do is like, oh,
2:31:44
we'll just we can take all this
money, we'll hire people hire
2:31:48
executive producers and
executive executive producers
2:31:52
and then a boss for those
executive producers. And who
2:31:55
will make the programming will
be great. It'll be just great.
2:31:58
We're gonna have hits
everywhere. We don't have to hit
2:32:01
boy, we don't have a hit. We
have proven that being number
2:32:04
one doesn't matter. We can
survive and we survive with you.
2:32:08
And it's also it's your boots on
the ground reports. So many of
2:32:11
them once again. I mean it just
amazing boots on the ground that
2:32:15
people give us give us
information that that edifies us
2:32:19
on the world at General because
everyone's an expert in
2:32:22
something. When you hear us
talking about
2:32:24
John C Dvorak: somebody has your
money experts that listen to
2:32:26
this show. It's amazing.
2:32:28
Adam Curry: I mean, how much the
how many emails did you get
2:32:30
about the B one bomber?
2:32:32
John C Dvorak: I got? Well I
only got two from Super experts
2:32:35
people that are actually in
2:32:36
Adam Curry: the field. Did you
know that thing goes Mach two.
2:32:40
Yeah, no,
2:32:40
John C Dvorak: that's a
fantastic product I didn't
2:32:42
notice I didn't know is called
the bone
2:32:44
Adam Curry: Bone. Bone. Max you
isn't that the speed of the of
2:32:49
the concourt Yeah, that's crazy.
I didn't know it
2:32:54
John C Dvorak: was designed in
1970 I think is the Concorde I
2:32:58
didn't know is it high altitude
It conquers back in the day to
2:33:01
high altitude Mach tooth and,
2:33:03
Adam Curry: and it does not just
carpet bomb. It does surgical
2:33:06
strikes. So So see, this is the
information that is very good
2:33:10
for us. With that also comes
well all kinds of cool things
2:33:14
like the no agenda, Art
Generator. This is what Paul
2:33:17
couture has put together so that
our artists another fabulous
2:33:21
batch of people who deliver us
their talent while they're
2:33:26
listening live to the show. I
mean, that's really what is so
2:33:29
amazing is that they put this
together while they're listening
2:33:31
live. And we really have to
thank Francisco Scaramanga for a
2:33:37
fantastic this was top notch,
top of the line, no agenda art
2:33:43
to the tee, Episode 1631. We
titled that pulling a Johnson
2:33:48
which went well with the GI Joe
artwork. I mean, this of course
2:33:55
was one of the pastor
citizenships that we discussed
2:34:00
on the previous episode come in
as a Chinese national and as
2:34:03
long as you serve in our
military for a couple of years.
2:34:05
You can get it be an American
citizen. And he had it down man.
2:34:09
GI Joe had little rice bowl
there was chopsticks didn't make
2:34:13
it too racist. You know, had
them kind of semi Asian face I
2:34:17
would say yeah,
2:34:18
John C Dvorak: it wasn't just
super slant dyed, racist looking
2:34:23
cartoon which is usually done
but you didn't need to
2:34:26
Adam Curry: know it was
brilliant. I mean really just a
2:34:29
brilliant no it
2:34:30
John C Dvorak: was it had a
touch it was fine touch you put
2:34:33
the 33 on the helmet the
American flag on the helmet
2:34:36
which is way to do it the rice
bowl with the chopsticks is a
2:34:40
piece of in the Ci g h o with
the red star China in the
2:34:44
middle. Very good. Everything in
this piece. Said winner Yeah.
2:34:52
Adam Curry: We looked at in the
wind by Darren O'Neil who always
2:34:56
comes in with something simple
and AI generated But that wasn't
2:35:01
the winner. I thought Taylor
Swift won't even listen to my
2:35:05
podcast was cute little sigh up
on the prairie cute but the
2:35:08
execution was not wasn't there.
Pandora's pouch of problems was
2:35:14
cute but no the Gouda cheese
talk I that was kind of it
2:35:17
wasn't it? We had a goat Do we
have a goat? Yeah a goat
2:35:20
screaming What else do we have?
Oh, the kind of like the texting
2:35:27
Iran it was it just didn't weigh
up against GI Joe but the
2:35:31
texting Iran was like a text
message and it's from the US
2:35:35
military. Yeah. Nothing is off
the table. Don't make us turn
2:35:39
you into sand respond and then
the Iranian flag replies new
2:35:42
phone who dis was cute. It's
funny we didn't understand the
2:35:47
nice tats by pickle surprise.
Although cute. No, no agenda
2:35:52
heart.
2:35:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, who
2:35:55
Adam Curry: didn't know didn't
quite get that one.
2:35:58
John C Dvorak: That was it.
Pickled surprise also did the
2:36:01
goat Yes. And like to go to
goats nice but isn't wasn't
2:36:07
gonna win
2:36:07
Adam Curry: and commerce your
blogger is he just keeps on
2:36:09
throwing out AI hoping it'll
win. Which law? He said not a
2:36:15
bad idea.
2:36:16
John C Dvorak: He does too many
of the just generalized designs.
2:36:21
Yeah, that. Were never we never
picked that. I mean, I sometimes
2:36:24
for the newsletter, I'll pull
one of those down when I need
2:36:27
something. But it's not going to
be Ashok cover.
2:36:32
Adam Curry: He wanted me. Let me
say that. Right that he wanted
2:36:37
me to promote no agenda gpt.com.
Okay, which so he has put
2:36:44
together all these chat GPT
projects. So you can go and ask
2:36:48
something about no agenda.
today. Good. Well, yeah, that's
2:36:53
the one that said that Ryan
Seacrest had been running. Which
2:36:57
the funny thing was, it had
gotten that from a transcript,
2:37:00
which indeed said Ryan Seacrest,
which was incorrect, which was
2:37:05
ai m is like this is garbage in
garbage out. Yeah,
2:37:09
John C Dvorak: it is. It's, it's
not gonna get any better. No,
2:37:13
it's It's the model is model
class gonna start it's gonna
2:37:16
start corrupting. Basic
historical data. Yeah. By
2:37:22
iteration, yeah, corruption by
iteration. Again, no title
2:37:26
that's too long. Have a eruption
by iterations what's going to
2:37:30
happen we're just going to take
over the world with just corrupt
2:37:33
data and information you won't
even know what date it is.
2:37:36
Adam Curry: We need a snap your
phrase then corruption by
2:37:39
iteration. And we'll probably
have to talk to the consulting
2:37:44
arm about that. You're
2:37:45
John C Dvorak: gonna have to
think about I don't know if we
2:37:47
can come up with anything better
than that.
2:37:50
Adam Curry: We'd love to thank
thank you artists. Thank you for
2:37:52
thank you to all the artists who
participate we give you the
2:37:56
honest feedback because that's
what you never get when you do
2:37:59
jobs. Certainly not spec jobs.
No one was just yet some won't
2:38:02
call you back. It's
2:38:04
John C Dvorak: just don't call
Yeah. My art fail. I don't know.
2:38:08
You won't call me back which
people
2:38:10
Adam Curry: on the mastodon say
this shooting on the earth this
2:38:14
man? No, no, no, we're giving
you honest feedback. That's what
2:38:17
we're doing.
2:38:18
John C Dvorak: Are you are you
for amateurs that don't know
2:38:20
what they're talking about. Are
2:38:21
Adam Curry: you even on the
Macedon anymore? I don't see you
2:38:23
posting do you post that I post
all
2:38:24
John C Dvorak: the time? Really?
I'm posting like a maniac.
2:38:28
Adam Curry: I haven't seen
anything from you. You bought
2:38:30
me? I've not blocked you. I
follow you. Follow you follow
2:38:37
you. You're a creator and I
follow you. I want to thank the
2:38:41
people who deliver a treasure to
us. One of our three T's of
2:38:45
value for value. And right off
the bat saving the day and a
2:38:49
Muirhead from rye New York. No
note that I could find 2000 This
2:38:59
is fantastic. Anna Why did you
not send us a note we want to
2:39:04
thank you we want to
2:39:05
John C Dvorak: research I looked
up Anna any every which way. And
2:39:09
I even went back I dug through
the Pay Pal dogs to find her
2:39:13
donation to see if she had an
offbeat email address. And
2:39:17
indeed she did. Oh, so I you.
Yeah, that's how much work I
2:39:20
did. And so I looked it up.
Still nothing.
2:39:24
Adam Curry: She's a baller big
baller soccer play ball baller
2:39:32
baller donation so
2:39:34
John C Dvorak: she will send us
a note when she feels like it
2:39:37
that's the way I Yes,
2:39:38
Adam Curry: I sure hope so.
Anna, thank you very much double
2:39:40
up karma for your lack of
notice. Karma
2:39:47
John C Dvorak: and then
herbivore comes in from
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for
$350.93. less interesting,
2:39:58
right? Yeah. I think there's a
donation missing from these this
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and value for value. We got
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Beginning today the album will
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with value verse. That's my
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First I'm contaminant can
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John C Dvorak: be found on the
herbivore band.com. Also testing
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our rig this Saturday at
practice to work out the bugs
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catch yins y and z is one of
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Adam Curry: no, not one of mine.
That's what all the kids are
2:41:18
saying Yen's
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John C Dvorak: at this show or
online. Thanks, 350 93. So
2:41:23
Adam Curry: people have figured
it out. They're looking at value
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for value. They're looking at
the modern podcast apps and
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they're using it for their
music. Exactly. And they're
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promoting it on our show. Very
good. Kliff. reamers ma reamers
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Unknown: you've been de Deus
needs
2:41:48
Adam Curry: a relationship karma
hope you're looking for one
2:41:50
you've got karma cliffs. Or if
you're in one, we hope it stays
2:41:56
good.
2:41:57
John C Dvorak: IP anonymously.
Oh, is it good gag, South Bend
2:42:03
Indiana. 33333 once yak and goat
karma or good karma, but he sent
2:42:08
a note in
2:42:09
Adam Curry: this was an
interesting it was not just a
2:42:12
note it was it took up the whole
PDF.
2:42:15
John C Dvorak: He has a bunch of
photos. What he did is he
2:42:17
Adam Curry: opened his drawer
drawer. Once you read it, well,
2:42:20
I'm going to read parts of it
because it's four or five pages
2:42:23
long. He opens up his drawer is
a doc I have problems saying
2:42:27
drawer drawer drawer drawer. And
he's close enough shows a
2:42:32
picture and there's three
playing for playing cards, like
2:42:37
you know, cards, all with the
face up with the number up and
2:42:42
it's all threes. And he says oh
my gosh. All threes popped up.
2:42:50
He says four of a kind three,
three, extra heart. And then he
2:42:54
went in and asked chat GPT about
the significance of 333 and
2:43:00
Chachi Beatty said 333 is often
associated with spiritual
2:43:04
growth, protection and Divine
Presence. Interesting
2:43:09
mathematics. Three, three 3.33
Is the decimal representation of
2:43:12
the fraction of 1/3 it's also I
think, an angel number all kinds
2:43:19
of so he said I had to donate
that makes total sense. And I
2:43:23
think he added the fees for us
so the three three 3.33 plus the
2:43:29
fees no, I'm sorry no he didn't
he just came out three three to
2:43:32
three three Yeah, that's a good
note. And if that happens to you
2:43:37
people see the odometer they get
they get a bill they see a check
2:43:43
number they see a hotel room
just when you see those threes
2:43:47
you know it's time to support
the no agenda show and he wants
2:43:49
some yeah karma we got that for
you. No problem. You've
2:43:53
Unknown: got ah
2:43:57
John C Dvorak: karma meanwhile,
sarin Denzel comes in from Port
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Townsend Washington for 333 but
there's no note or anything that
2:44:06
I can find and so he gets a
double up karma.
2:44:10
Unknown: You've got karma
2:44:16
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
have one in blue which is always
2:44:18
good news rich, whiskey Bravo
for Echo Hotel golf in Davie,
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AC. Our first Associate
Executive Producer 256. He says
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I'm thrilled to finally become a
knight after being a douche bag
2:44:35
for too long. It's the highlight
of my week when I get to listen
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to an entire show who knew
retirement would be so busy.
2:44:42
Noting that this show is this
show number is a combination of
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16 two to the fourth 32 to the
fifth, this donation 2562 to the
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eights My birthday is for two to
the second to the first and one
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two to the oath, so please
Knight me as sir powers of two
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protecting Davie, Florida at the
roundtable I'd like frozen
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Tito's vodka and Nathan's hot
dogs with fresh bonds. Is there
2:45:05
any other kind of been? No
jingles only douchebag karma
2:45:09
we're gonna do.
2:45:12
Unknown: D Do you get karma?
2:45:15
You've got karma
2:45:20
John C Dvorak: so there's a note
as one that got lost in the
2:45:23
shuffle and I'm pretty sure it
came in on time and I'm going to
2:45:26
just read it from the email.
Okay. Yeah, this is from we did
2:45:31
we did or did well hold on a
second. Sorry. I'm holding,
2:45:35
stopping the show. Oh, do
2:45:36
Adam Curry: we have to really
stop the show? Nevermind.
2:45:39
John C Dvorak: It's something
else. I keep looking. Let me go.
2:45:41
Which you just read ritualist go
to Ethan ma us moms in
2:45:46
Birmingham, Alabama. To to to
rove ducks. Road ducks on my
2:45:51
33rd birthday in gratitude for
this fantastic podcast. This us?
2:45:57
Yes. In the morning to both of
you, gentlemen. And please do
2:46:00
you do Shmi
2:46:02
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:46:04
John C Dvorak: thanks for
helping make sense. It's just
2:46:09
amazing me how many people are
in the 33rd birthday. I didn't
2:46:12
listen to the show. And
2:46:15
Adam Curry: when they say
grouping around when they
2:46:16
started listening, they were 16
2:46:20
John C Dvorak: Thanks for
helping me make sense of all the
2:46:22
madness biscuit for my birthday.
2:46:25
Adam Curry: Let me grab one I
have them fresh from the oven.
2:46:28
Here it is. They
2:46:29
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
2:46:34
Adam Curry: So that's it? Is the
doc ze doc Doc Brown the third
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Makawao Hawaii, rove ducks 222
deconstruction, you guys provide
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his fantastic thought wonder if
the thought wonder if these
2:46:51
millions brought in are being
digitized they will be a
2:46:54
component to new digital
economy. What? What is he
2:46:59
saying? Oh, the millions being
brought in. I guess he's talking
2:47:02
about the newcomers. I guess if
they're being digitized Yes.
2:47:06
They Yes. They will be. They
will be tokenized yeah, that's
2:47:13
all that's all he's got. Oh, I'm
sorry. Yes.
2:47:18
John C Dvorak: So let's go to
gigawatt Coffee Roasters. And
2:47:23
Adam Curry: I had I had a whole
I ran out of my black rifle. And
2:47:29
it was in the mail because I'm
on a subscription. And I had one
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of the gigawatts very tasty.
rivaled the black rifle I should
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say.
2:47:41
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
suggest people check out the P
2:47:44
berry that they have, which is a
P berries and interesting.
2:47:48
Coffee Bean. Let me read the
thing and I'll talk about it in
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a second. That Giga white coffee
and Bensenville Illinois to
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1133. All producers should
considering going to an NA
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Meetup is good to get out of
your comfort zone and break
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bread with strangers. You'll
learn new things exchange ideas,
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and who knows you might even
just make a new friend a shout
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out to everybody who came to the
Naperville, Illinois meetup last
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Tuesday. I'm looking forward to
the next one. Thank you, John
2:48:20
and Anna, for creating this
community of people with such
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wide ranging views and
backgrounds. Indeed, I'll take
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some OG Pelosi jobs Carmen in
hopes of finding my next awesome
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employees looking for Wow
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caffeinated Eli the coffee guy.
Okay, so P Berry.
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Adam Curry: Wow, I'm glad you
can get to the P Berry. Yes.
2:48:48
John C Dvorak: P Berry is a
which always traditionally it's
2:48:52
like a midget Berry. And they
call him Pete versus like a you
2:48:55
know, do you see the coffee
bean? The bean isn't Berry has
2:48:59
been the bean is like half the
size of a normal coffee bean.
2:49:02
It's a little bitty thing. They
used to be discarded because
2:49:07
they don't you know you want in
the olden days when you went and
2:49:09
had your coffee and you want a
big fat, healthy looking beans.
2:49:12
You didn't want these little
miniscule beans. But it turns
2:49:15
out when you make coffee from
the pea berry sometimes is
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terrific tasting it tastes
better. And this has only been
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recently discovered by coffee
people because they needed to
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know make more money and have
the gigawatt guys have some pee
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berries. People should maybe
check it out more you know, in
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the morning. Jobs,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.
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Adam Curry: All right. Sir Buber
checks in with 207 20 from
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Nevada Iowa. ITM I'm donating in
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of my wife's passing. Oh, that
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rumps. already hear that, but we
will say a prayer for her and
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think of her and for you. Can I
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sir Boober
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John C Dvorak: done the mission
message from my wife? Yes, it
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was a Nevada. A native of
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Nevada. Ah, yeah. I don't know
how they pronounce it there, but
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it's pronounced Nevada. Keep
pronouncing it Nevada, and it
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makes her cringy. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: I say Nevada. Yeah,
you just said it. No, but it's
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supposed to be Nevada. And
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when you say Nevada I'm so
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can hit me up on WhatsApp. She
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Adam Curry: For anyone who knows
me this is very funny.
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John C Dvorak: And Jeremy Knight
is in San Francisco. He came in
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at $23.24 failed to hit up the
ATM and only put fit 30 into the
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envelope. But he's talking about
the meetup us at the meetup. So
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here's some more treasure to
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bartender loves us. Well, let's
see. Let me think why is he
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three o'clock and a Saturday
afternoon when the place is
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normally three o'clock on a
Saturday afternoon dead empty.
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And now you have 40 customers
who are giving tips and making
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the liven up to place. I wonder
why. Anyway, so he says I had a
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wonderful time chatting with
Jays fiance that's Brennan
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Brenton Yeah. Yeah. Very
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Adam Curry: good. Sir crystal
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Adam Curry: hit me up on the
mastodon said, How come you
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haven't named her yet? I think
she refuses.
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John C Dvorak: I don't know what
if she wants to be named. She
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has to ask for it. I think we
have asked us don't do it
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automatically.
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Adam Curry: No, I think I think
we have said Hey, isn't a time
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she could be way beyond a dame
by probably Baron. Baron
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hairnet. Yeah. So Linda Lou
Potkin. We'd love to bring you
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up on the podium
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John C Dvorak: or Baron Ness.
It'd be bareness fairness
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Adam Curry: would be perfect.
Here it is jobs, jobs,
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Unknown: jobs and jobs.
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They
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Very good Chris show 1632 I want
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John C Dvorak: There's a
question I think you can do some
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Adam Curry: Oh, well. Then you
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hopeful. Don't look don't look
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Let's go with that. Thank
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for Mimi's email when she sends
3:09:29
the actual good news clip. What
do we have? Actually, a
3:09:31
John C Dvorak: lot of people
send them in, of course. Well,
3:09:34
this one here I have to talk
about a little bit after it's
3:09:37
over. Okay. This is a little
girl saves her sister.
3:09:41
Unknown: Constant Kwik Trip
turning into a nightmare.
3:09:44
Someone just stole my car on
27th street with my two kids in
3:09:47
the car. I mean, eight year old
3:09:48
girls quick thinking I was
scared. I was like what's
3:09:52
happening saving her and her
sister after a shocking
3:09:55
carjacking. I
3:09:56
was really just about an arm's
length away from my car out
3:10:00
Jorgensen
3:10:00
says he went to grab a cloth to
dry off his vehicle after a car
3:10:03
wash. When someone asked him for
directions.
3:10:06
Then suddenly I heard the
screeching of our tires. The car
3:10:10
was
3:10:10
gone with his daughter's two
year old autumn and eight year
3:10:13
old Charlie in the backseat. He
told me to get out of car. I was
3:10:17
like, oh, what should I do?
Should I run be a scaredy cat or
3:10:22
should I save my sister to
Charlie telling our affiliate
3:10:26
WTF J she knew her dad had the
keys, not the carjackers and she
3:10:30
decided to stay put the driver
ditch the car and the kids at
3:10:34
the Batteries Plus store about a
mile down the road. And Charlie
3:10:37
acted fast her little sister
panicking grabbing her dad's
3:10:44
phone from the front of the car
and calling her mom leaving this
3:10:47
message their dad back and Kwik
Trip frantically on the phone
3:10:54
with police
3:10:55
are over by batteries. And then
an officer is going to come over
3:10:58
meet to at the Kwik Trip. Okay.
All right,
3:11:01
but you guys have my
3:11:02
kids. The incident reflecting a
bigger trend and carjackings
3:11:06
rising 17% from 2022 to 2023.
And nearby Milwaukee and
3:11:10
nationally carjackings up 93%
From 2019 to 2023. According to
3:11:15
a new Council on criminal
justice report tracking rates
3:11:18
across 10 US cities back in Oak
Creek. The Police Department
3:11:21
said it took three suspects into
custody and is seeking felony
3:11:25
charges this week. Now a family
reunited
3:11:28
I ran as fast as I could out of
the back of that cop car to hug
3:11:31
them
3:11:31
hoping others will learn how
quickly things can go wrong.
3:11:34
And I'm pretty well bothered
driving your car.
3:11:38
Yes, we'll drive the car at home
now as well. Yeah,
3:11:41
Adam Curry: that's right people
law enforcement doing a good
3:11:45
job.
3:11:45
John C Dvorak: I call bullshit.
Oh, you do? I think this whole
3:11:50
clip is a hoax.
3:11:51
Adam Curry: a hoax. Oh, no.
3:11:54
John C Dvorak: What makes me
think that what makes one we
3:11:57
have a recording of the little
two year old saying Where's
3:11:59
daddy? Where's daddy? Where'd
they get that recording? There's
3:12:01
the car rigged with microphones.
Second, we have a recording of
3:12:06
the eight year olds phone call
to mom saying daddy's been just
3:12:10
missing. Who's recording that
call? Does mom have a recorder
3:12:14
on the phone? Where did that?
Where did that little clip come
3:12:17
from? And then to say that the
eight year old knew that daddy
3:12:20
had the keys while the guys
driving off. That's the last
3:12:23
thing I'd be on a kid's mind.
The thing was to promote a
3:12:27
little message and by the way
this on here. The Halley's news
3:12:31
thing on NBC this an NBC clip I
think of notorious for phoning
3:12:35
up stuff. And so then then
meanwhile, there's the whole
3:12:39
thing. It's it was to promote
this this data on because right
3:12:44
in the middle of it. There's
like an advertorial about
3:12:47
carjackings and how they've been
they've gone up so much. I find
3:12:51
that this is I think this whole
clip has been staged. Let's
3:12:55
Adam Curry: review the rules of
the good news clip. It's
3:12:59
supposed to make you feel good.
And now you just made us feel
3:13:03
bad.
3:13:05
John C Dvorak: I didn't make
anybody feel bad. It's it's
3:13:07
still a cute clip. No,
3:13:09
Adam Curry: it was I felt good
until you just said it was all
3:13:12
bogus. And I love the cute
little kid and you just made me
3:13:15
feel horrible.
3:13:18
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I'm
sorry. That'll never happen
3:13:20
again. You better
3:13:21
Adam Curry: believe it won't
happen again. No, deconstructing
3:13:25
the news? The good news? No,
deconstructing
3:13:28
John C Dvorak: good news. Even
though it's a hoax by NBC. No
3:13:31
Adam Curry: sex in the champagne
room. No deconstructing the good
3:13:35
news clip. I just want to go out
happy and now I'm, I'm
3:13:39
depressed. You can see it in my
blood. Geez. Well, luckily, we
3:13:46
will booster. Luckily, we'll be
back on Sunday, where we'll end
3:13:51
with a very good news clip. That
should make you happy and feel
3:13:55
good. Feel good. Coming up next
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3:14:28
John C Dvorak: from Northern
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nice and sunny. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
3:14:33
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3:14:39
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3:14:48
Unknown: uses some money that
you're about to do you know what
3:14:52
that might be what it might look
like.
3:14:56
Yes, I have such To trade ideas
all the good I'm gonna do it
3:15:03
this month. Seeing Rachel you
and I are go shopping for a new
3:15:09
wardrobe new shoes motorcycles
and crawling new fishing rod for
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Robin Rachel Rachel France you
want France In France no
3:15:30
fishing in France for women's
rights
3:15:41
as if you need persuasion in
that regard
3:15:52
Biden becomes a little kids
great to be home folks over a
3:16:00
period of time we stopped
investing
3:16:15
Joe has already invested $6.1
million 1.1 2.5 $100,000 Not a
3:16:33
joke, you know, we have
interests such as yours but you
3:16:41
know what matters no matter how
many drugs economics does not
3:16:59
affect the brain to function
3:17:10
I was told that that's an awful
thing to do. For my entire
3:17:15
career, I had the best in the
world you pay for manager
3:17:21
generals gathered in masse
3:17:25
it's a memo that describes how
we're going to take out seven
3:17:28
countries in five years.
3:17:31
Which is that black mask
3:17:34
is when I first came to office.
One of the first meetings I had
3:17:38
was at the Pentagon with
generals
3:17:42
minds that blood destruction
3:17:46
Bolton has always said let's go
to war but he's not the one
3:17:50
who's gonna go on the flush
right? He's a coward saucer
3:17:54
deaths construction.
3:17:58
The leaders of Iran are
racketeers
3:18:00
behind every problem is arann
3:18:07
what you said 2016. I liked it
when you said no more stupid
3:18:10
wars.
3:18:12
You gotta roll president in the
White House surrounded by these
3:18:16
Uber hawks that thirst for
another war with Iran.
3:18:21
International Atomic Energy
Agency has never found Iran in
3:18:25
contravention of stipulations in
the deal.
3:18:30
John C Dvorak: If Iran wants to
find that will be the official
3:18:33
end of Iran never threaten the
United States. Again. somebody
3:18:38
that wants to go into war in the
3:18:40
Unknown: United States heading
towards another Middle East
3:18:43
showdown this time with
iran.org/in
3:19:03
A. Thank you guys. Yeah, have a
great one.