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1633: Noise Machine

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Adam Curry: What a great time to be doing a podcast. Adam curry,
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John C. Devora. February 11 2020 for the show award winning given
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nation media assassination episode 1633.
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Unknown: This is no agenda that
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Adam Curry: 25th is back on deck and we're broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. And
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley we finally
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realize it Super Bowl Sunday. I'm John Cena borax
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Adam Curry: kill. Yeah, sports balls. Baby. We're all jacked
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and happy about sports Bo.
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John C Dvorak: And I will the last two weeks in
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Adam Curry: sports ball.
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John C Dvorak: Yes. All these sports ball talk shows is all
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they do. I mean, I don't know how much you can talk about
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something to such an extreme. Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak, yak,
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yak, yak, yak.
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Before we continue, I want to warn
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everybody. Several times during today's broadcast, we will be
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switching away to cutaways of Taylor Swift. Oh,
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Unknown: we all need to calm down and I'm not talking about
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the podcast I'm talking about having Taylor Swift here.
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Adam Curry: There you go. Just once in a while. We gotta cut to
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Taylor Swift. So we all have seen that she's here.
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John C Dvorak: I think she's going to come out on stage at
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the halftime show.
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Adam Curry: Did this okay. Calm down. She's not going to come
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out on Do you think she's going to come out on stage of the
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halftime show with Usher Sure. Naked. I wanted to give us a
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little props. I got a note from our boots on the ground. That M
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five M news quote quote, quote news outlets were pitching NORAD
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to have Taylor's F Taylor Swift's playing tract. They
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called the Public Affairs Office. They really wanted this
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just like Santa Claus. And they all said knew. But we were
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right. That is the it's the extent of peak swiftness.
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John C Dvorak: Well, the problem is, of course, is that she
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actually landed yesterday morning. Is this true?
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Adam Curry: I thought she had a concert just to jump on the
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plane and visit day
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John C Dvorak: ahead. And so she's already been back
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yesterday morning and she landed in LA in the morning and she got
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to Florida yesterday.
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Adam Curry: This is disappointed ruined. Did
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John C Dvorak: that ruin the idea for NORAD? Yeah,
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Adam Curry: that's disappointing. I thought we're
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gonna get a tracking you know, have her her cutaways of her
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convoy coming from the airport. Will she make it in time? Will
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she make it in time?
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John C Dvorak: Oh, brother. Yeah, that's what you would that
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would be ideal. If we were producing it. We don't fake
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that. You know, it could still happen. We
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Adam Curry: do that we would do that. Right away.
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John C Dvorak: They could fake it the way they did. The last
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good news clip from last show I got a lot of flack from
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Adam Curry: Oh, I even Yes, yes, people were very disappointed by
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they felt bad
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John C Dvorak: about the deed being disappointed but including
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him. Oh, we have a Milwaukee Police guy who did a lot of
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research on this and any research found the city
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everything all the details. It was it was a legit story. But my
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commentary and I never said it wasn't a legit story. I said
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that it was sweetened with a lot of staged clips within it, which
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is what NBC does they I think they do some of the poorest news
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reporting.
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Adam Curry: I think I don't think you covered your tracks
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very well. There was no I didn't I forgot it. You didn't use the
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there's no evidence. I mean, you did not do a great job.
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John C Dvorak: But the fact is that there's no way that they
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some of those clips, they could have even had them so it's all
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right. Everybody loves you. Especially a little girl in the
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backseat go Where's daddy? Where did they get that
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Adam Curry: recording on? It's okay. The thing that I was
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amazed by is that so many people listen all the way to the end of
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the show. Like this is
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John C Dvorak: good. All the cops do for sure this is this is
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good. We love cops in their car. patrol of course
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Adam Curry: over what else you're gonna do. Listen to the
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show. Of course. You know it. All right. My assessment inside
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attack 25th amendment on deck. Biden realizes he's in trouble.
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John C Dvorak: Biden doesn't realize anything now.
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Adam Curry: Did you watch the whole press conference from
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beginning to end? Yes.
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John C Dvorak: I watched the whole thing. What the whole
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seven minutes 17
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Adam Curry: was 17 minutes. Okay. And the way the news cut
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this up, they're in on it, obviously. Because yeah, he made
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a mistake about CC okay. I mean, obviously, that's not your top
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level performance. Is presidential material, but the
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way they were cutting it? Well, I have some clips obviously, the
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way they were cutting in some of his responses to make it look
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even worse. Yeah. T he came out he was ready to defend his
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stance. He fumbled a few things, but they turn this into he's a
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bumbling idiot. And his. Okay, let's start off the main talking
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point, angry and defiant president. Second,
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John C Dvorak: you're just going right into the store without
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giving any background for anyone who might be listening overseas
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or anyplace else about what we're talking about. Oh, but the
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background but
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Adam Curry: everybody understands Taylor Swift. Biden
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came out? Well, it's in the report. The background is in the
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report
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John C Dvorak: go on and did describe dude, a report came out
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Adam Curry: here but it's in this it's in this clip. That is
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John C Dvorak: all covered in the clip templates. Yes,
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Adam Curry: thank you for slowing the pace down President
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Biden
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Unknown: angry and defiant. My memory is fine. In a hastily
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called evening news conference. The President responding
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directly to Special Counsel Robert hars reports on his
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handling of classified documents on the document that included a
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blistering assessment of the 81 year old age and what the report
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has diminished faculties in advancing age. The President
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slamming hers assessment that he did not remember when his son
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Beau died. How
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the hell dare he raised? I don't need anyone. I don't need anyone
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to remind me when he passed away.
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The remarks coming hours after the special counsel said our
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investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully
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retained to disclose classified materials after his vice
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presidency, but said no criminal charges are warranted in this
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matter. Adding to the jury would likely see the President as a
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sympathetic well meaning an elderly man with a poor memory.
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I will mean I'm an older man and I know what the hell I'm doing
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moment
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Adam Curry: this the all have the news reports, all the
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packages had this where where they say oh is an elderly man
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with poor memory. And they cut him saying I'm an elderly man
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with poor memory. But in context, he was complaining
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about that one sentence this right for people. And most
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people, of course, don't watch the full thing. It really sounds
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like oh my god, that guy is toast, not saying he isn't. But
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it wasn't all
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Unknown: that bad. That IQ well meaning an elderly man with a
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poor memory.
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Well, meaning I'm an older man. And I know what the hell I'm
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doing Moments
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later, the president confusing Mexico and Egypt. When talking
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about the crisis in Gaza,
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the president of Mexico CC did not want to open up the gate to
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allow humanitarian material to get in.
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Adam Curry: And the other thing, and I'm not defending Biden, but
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I just want to point out that the news is in on this the M
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five M because it wasn't Moments later, he had actually walked
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off. And they came back to answer some questions about
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Israel. So it was separated by many minutes. I believe you have
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some clips about the documents themselves, which I'd like to
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give you some space to talk about. And then I would like to
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go back to the M five M analysis and packages.
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John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, I have a couple of clips
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here I want to play. That's what I suggested. I want to play the
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gaff that I thought was the bad one, which was came right at the
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beginning. When he's all upset about his night remembering
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today his son died, which I believe is probably true, and
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probably documented. But is is the gaffe that he made right
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then when he when he came out to deny it, which is this one which
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I still think is the was the big gaffe of the day not to Mexico,
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one minutes, the Biden, Our Lady of gaff,
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Unknown: I know there's some attention paid to some language
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and report about my recollection of events. There's even
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referenced that I don't remember when my son died. How in the
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hell dare he raised that? Frankly, when I was asked the
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question, I thought to myself, wasn't any of their damn
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business. Let me tell you something. Somebody would come
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in and I were since the day he died. Every single day the
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rosary he got from Our Lady of this. Every Memorial Day we hold
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a service remember him attended by friends and family and the
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people will love to?
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John C Dvorak: Well, yes, Our Lady of and he like couldn't
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remember where it was now since you Guadalupe, by the way for
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anything
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Adam Curry: since you bring that up. When he came back to respond
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to
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John C Dvorak: I guess, screaming Reporter Well,
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Adam Curry: they were all they were all screaming reporters. He
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had he said something under his breath and then he came What I
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thought was quite the revelation. He wants to talk
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about the hostage negotiation. And he says something like,
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yeah, how do I, how do I, how do I say this without without
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revealing anything? So there's some plan.
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Unknown: So that's what we're pushing around. I'm pushing very
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hard now to deal with this hostage ceasefire. Because, as
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you know, I've been working tirelessly in this deal. How can
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I say this?
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Adam Curry: How can I say this without reveal? If I was, if I
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was in his niche, if I was asked him, I'd be very worried about
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this guy to
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Unknown: lead to a sustained pause in the fighting in the
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actions taking place in the Gaza Strip. And because I think if we
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can get the delay for that initial delay, I think that we
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wouldn't be able to extend that so that we could increase the
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prospect that this fighting in Gaza changes. There's also other
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negotiations, that listen
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Adam Curry: to what he says now he talks about just before
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October 7,
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Unknown: you may recall, in the very beginning, right after,
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right before Hamas attacked right after right before I was
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in contact with the Saudis and others, to work out a deal where
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they would recognize Israel's right to exist, let them make
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them part of the Middle East and recognize them fully, in return
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for certain things that the United States would commit to
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do. The commitments that we were proposed to do related to to two
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items, I'm not going to go in detail, but one of them was to
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deal with the protection against their arch enemy to the
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northwest. And northeast, I should say,
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Adam Curry: Who's the arch enemy to the north, east Northwest
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northeast? Was he talking about
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John C Dvorak: Saudi Arabia? The second one
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Unknown: is by providing ammunition and material for them
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to defend themselves. Coincidentally, that's the
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timeframe with this broke out. I have no proof what I'm about to
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say. But it's not unreasonable to expect that the Hamas
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understood what was about to take place and wanted to break
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it up before it happened.
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Adam Curry: So he's responsible?
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John C Dvorak: No, we, I think this was actually discussed
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before when Hamas did their thing on the seventh. Biden was
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in the process of, of closing out the Abraham accords that
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were set up by Trump to normalize relationships between
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Israel and Saudi Arabia, which Rouhani is
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Adam Curry: what he but he mentioned ammunitions, he was
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going to give him munitions that was not in the initial analysis.
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John C Dvorak: No, I don't remember that either. So
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clearly,
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Adam Curry: the guy's no good. But you know, as the focus,
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memory is quite astounding.
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John C Dvorak: So he, so today's bonus clip is coming up. I was
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watching Saki this morning. So she's defending him and slamming
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a pen into the ground. And she's she made a big point and in my
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taking, like five Trump clips, right, well, everybody makes
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mistakes. And she sews shows clump, saying Sioux City instead
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of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Has Trump saying and Biden is
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gonna start World War Two.
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Adam Curry: So hey, he's not the only crazy old coot. So
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John C Dvorak: she goes on and on about the two of them are
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both the same. And you know, even though Trump's gaffes are
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hardly at the same league as Biden's, but she goes on to
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claim that the audience she says this, and I'm thinking people
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make gaffes all the time. But they usually don't have a staff
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of people. directors, producers, writers, people in the control
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room where she says the following 81
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Unknown: year old Joe Biden is running against 77 year old not
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a sprite, Donald Trump. Whoever you may wish was running. It is
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time to settle into the fact that there will be two baby
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boomers competing for the White House in November. That is
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what's happening.
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Adam Curry: Now what did she say? 87 year old Biden? No,
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John C Dvorak: she said 82 of worry one or 82 year old white
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7781
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Unknown: year old Joe Biden is running against 77 year old not
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a sprite Donald Trump not a sprite
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John C Dvorak: not a sprite? Well, you should know that.
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That's not to get okay.
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Unknown: Whatever you may wish was running. It is time to
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settle into the fact that there will be two baby boomers
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competing for the White House in November. That is what's
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happening.
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John C Dvorak: Baby Boom get it either, but that's why you need
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a staff. If you have a staff of people you wouldn't this
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wouldn't happen. Biden is not a baby bomber.
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Adam Curry: He's from the great generation.
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John C Dvorak: He's from the silent generation one
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generation. The jet great generation was the ones that
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were in World War
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Adam Curry: One to.
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John C Dvorak: The point is, is that Biden is is the only Silent
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Generation president we've ever had. Because there are a bunch
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of guys that were you know, they weren't had their parents were
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probably not at war. They're home having babies. And that's
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it. He's not a baby boomer. The baby boomers get blamed for
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everything. All the silent generation screw ups and there's
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tons of them, like Biden always pushed into the baby boomer
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group and they're not they're not baby boomers. He's not a
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baby boomer. The baby boomers, the oldest baby boomers are 77
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Max, after they're born in 1946. Biden was born in the 30s.
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Adam Curry: Fire the entire staff and Psaki get rid of him
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for this horrible gaffe. I've
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John C Dvorak: just it's the point is if you're going to go
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on and on and on about making gaffes and point out that Trump
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makes gaffe, and he makes give that you don't make a gaffe.
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Adam Curry: It's better for him that way. I am in total
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agreement. Let me let me lead you into your document. Clips.
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Because CBS, I think CBS was really they were cutting they
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were cutting on the on the president,
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Unknown: let's start with President Biden having to defend
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his mental capabilities described in the report is
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sympathetic, elderly man who is well meaning that is not how you
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want your president to be perceived, no,
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but he could that he leaned right into it last night and
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said, I am a sympathetic elderly man who has a good memory. And
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that
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Adam Curry: that's not what he said. He just repeated what the
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report said thing
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Unknown: he's got to convince and prove to voters over the
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next several months. I mean, yesterday, in many ways,
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encapsulated with so many voters tell us they're so worried about
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two guys, one who has to spend a lot of time this year in a
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courtroom, another who is perceived as a nice guy, but
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perhaps too old and unable to do the job. And at this point, they
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gotta figure out what these guys do. I prefer to
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girl's point perception is reality, though. When it comes
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to the voters, this is an important year. And when he has
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these moments for Tony, I mean, this is this is something that
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is glaring moving into this year, and
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it'd be holding a press conference about your mental
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acuity and to mix up Egypt and Mexico. Mexico is not even in
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the conversation. No questions about Mexico. It's not the topic
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of the press conference. It's not a good look.
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No. And it was all about the boat in the southern border of
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Gaza. So he went to Mexico, who among us hasn't screwed up those
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two countries before but we're not President. Yeah. And that's
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and that's the real concern that they have at the White House
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that they're going to have to
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Adam Curry: do so. So my entire analysis here, the media is not
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defending Biden at all. They're doubling down, they're cutting
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in bits, where he was just repeating what was in the report
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and making it sound as if he said that last night as an idiot
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25th amendment on Deck. This is to make him look impeachable.
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Because, you know, we only need a couple of people to jump in.
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No,
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John C Dvorak: no, when he did, as far as I know, and you can
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correct me if I if you know, I'm wrong. The 25th amendment has to
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be initiated by the Vice Presidents all in with bias.
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Okay, you want to I came out and she's made big statements. Sharp
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is attack.
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Adam Curry: No, no, I disagree with you. I think this is an
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attack by Kamala or she's in on it. She had a setup question.
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She was doing a whole different Spiel there. The Vice President,
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I think it was at the Naval Academy. It was about something
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completely different than I'm talking about to sit down. I'm
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talking about the immediate reaction which got most of the
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press the
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John C Dvorak: immediate reaction I saw they got most of
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the presses were sitting down saying the facts are wrong Biden
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sharpest attack.
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Adam Curry: I want you to listen to this and see if I can change
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your mind set up question by some rookie reporter who she
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thanks profusely in the beginning and at the end, and
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then she goes on to compare herself to the President as a
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wartime president.
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Unknown: I'm glad you asked.
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Adam Curry: I'm glad you asked as we agreed to beforehand.
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Unknown: Listen, listen, I have been privileged and proud to
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serve as Vice President of the United States with Joe Biden is
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President United States. And what I saw that report last
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night, I believe, is as a former prosecutor In the comments that
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were made by that prosecutor, gratuitous, inaccurate and
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inappropriate, October 7, Israel experienced a horrific attack.
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And I will tell you, we got the calls. The President and myself,
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we were there. The other hours. After that occurred together. It
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was an intense moment for the Commander in Chief of the United
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States of America. And I was in almost every meeting with the
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President, I can take over anytime I'm your war lady. In
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the hours and days that followed. Countless hours with
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the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, the heads of
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our intelligence community, I was there President was in front
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of and on top of it all, on top of asking questions, and
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requiring that America's military and intelligence
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community and diplomatic community would figure out and
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know how many people were dead. So
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Adam Curry: she goes on and on and on to talk about how she was
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there. She was in every single meeting, she was there with the
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heads of state with everyone from intelligence, all the
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military guys, clearly,
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politically motivated, but it was politically motivated,
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circuitous, I'm a prosecutor. So
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Unknown: I will say that when it comes to the role and
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responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that, we
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should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity
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than what we saw. Thank you.
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Adam Curry: Thank you for the question. Thank you for the
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question. telling you my spidey sense, says she's in on this and
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she will be the first to say I'm sorry, Joe, you just gotta
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John C Dvorak: go. Well, that would be entertaining. Yes, of
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course. I'm actually be a first I mean, I liked the fact that we
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got a lot of first coming up here. We have the, you know,
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first indictment for glory the second ever in history of of a
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cabinet member with Mayorkas. Yeah. And then we have the first
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it's only happened once before it was I think in the 1800s,
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where you had a president that was president than voted out and
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then voted back in that would be another one. Yeah, it'd be a
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first intended use of the 25th amendment. I was I don't have
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the clip. But I was quite disappointed. I should have gone
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back and scratch scrounge up the clip. But I was quite
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disappointed in Dershowitz going on about the 25th amendment
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saying the reason that the framers put the 25th Amendment
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in place, which is his quote, and then he went on with an
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explanation for how it works. I was quite disappointed in that
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because it wasn't the framers who, you know, George
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Washington, Hamilton's it was his amendment. These are men,
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the 25th Amendment showed up after Woodrow Wilson. Yeah,
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hardly a framers?
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Adam Curry: Well, unless so there's a couple things that a
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couple theories we've had, it can also, first of all, by
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invoking the 25th Amendment, we can get him off the stage and
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then we can bring in other people to run. So it is not
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necessarily that Kamala is going to be president, but she could
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be used to bring in Newsom, or obviously there's big, big mic,
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just to get him out of the way or, or to ensure ensure and this
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is our true theory to ensure Trump is going to win. We want
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Trump to win so that he can take all the heat for all the crap
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that's going to happen. Clean it up.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't get off that thesis completely. I
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also can't completely get off the thesis that we may be
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dealing with a Biden who's actually doing the bit of
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Vincent the chin Gigante, they've had the one of the mob
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bosses who played like, played himself as an idiot peeing in
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his pants walking around Greenwich Village,
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Adam Curry: I will tell you the way he conducted himself
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watching from beginning to end, he was more like that. He was
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more like a Dante, knowing what he was doing. Yeah, he's
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fumbling a bit. But, but it felt more like that. And like he was
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under attack from the inside. Like, holy crap, I gotta get out
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there.
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John C Dvorak: I mean, you know, it's funny. So I watched this
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whole thing, but I watched and then I watched the after
24:43
discussion with Peter Doocy. Yeah, on Fox, who was
24:49
immediately after the press conference, Ducey was was
24:54
talking to one of them I forgot which one of the posts on one of
24:58
the shows when that when when Biden can came out and made that
25:01
press, impromptu press conference. And deuces
25:05
explanation of the scene was so alien to what the host that what
25:10
I saw and what you saw what everybody saw? Ducey says it
25:15
seemed like a cacophony because you had all these reporters
25:20
screaming at him from all the networks. And Ducey says it when
25:24
you were there, Biden had handled himself well, he thought
25:29
he has a nasty remark toward Ducey about his memory
25:34
remembering that he wouldn't have talked to him. Yeah, it was
25:37
a kind of a try to make it a joke and you couldn't do it.
25:41
Ducey comes out and says, No, it wasn't like that at all. It was
25:44
pretty. It was pretty calm and
25:46
Adam Curry: collected. This is what this is what I'm saying had
25:49
John C Dvorak: to be miked funny.
25:51
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the miking is out is always bad. And
25:55
then never really good with that.
25:57
John C Dvorak: Does it sound like a bunch of screaming
25:59
reporters? And Ben, they had close ups of Biden looking left
26:03
and right. Like he was confused. Yep. That she says that he
26:07
didn't feel that he was actually there. I'm
26:09
Adam Curry: agreeing with Ducey. It didn't feel like the way the
26:12
packages have been had been put together. It just you know, that
26:18
guy came out first was the same height as Biden. He had
26:21
paperwork guy comes back, he's crossing some stuff off. Biden
26:25
is opening up, he's he sees what he's what he's got. He's, he's
26:28
he knows what to read. He's still an old guy. So he flubbed
26:32
some some obvious things. I'm not saying he, he's not worthy
26:36
of being 25th amendment ized. But he was a lot calmer, like
26:41
the Gonti theory comes much more into play here. So I wish we had
26:47
that clip from Ducey. I agree it was he was being railroaded and
26:50
I think he knew it. That's why I'm thinking Kamala has that's
26:55
the only way yeah, if you want to do the 25th Amendment, you
26:57
have to go through Kamala and the majority of the of the
27:00
cabinet. But then they have a plan. This there's there's a
27:05
plan afoot. Biden doesn't want to leave. For sure.
27:10
John C Dvorak: No, definitely not. Here's
27:12
Adam Curry: the 40 seconds about the special investigation.
27:18
Unknown: So the question, I think the question for our
27:19
viewers for the American people. Is, is Robert, her this special
27:23
prosecutor, special counsel? Is he a political hack? Or did he
27:27
see something in his five hour interview that he thought was so
27:29
significant, he
27:30
needed to describe
27:31
it. He is a former Republican Justice Department official,
27:34
which is appointed Biden's allies will continue to make in
27:37
the coming weeks. This was somebody who has come from a
27:40
partisan or political background and was trying to come up with
27:43
something they anticipated it would be a scathing report. I
27:46
don't think they anticipated this personal of a call out
27:49
there in his behavior. So much. So the special counsel's office
27:53
went back to him and said, Could you please remove that you've
27:55
overstepped here? Yeah. As a prosecutor, that's not fair.
27:58
Adam Curry: I mean, this guy has spoke written all over him. He
28:02
was top aide to Rod Rosenstein. He was liaison to Special
28:06
Counsel Muller for the investigation of the Russia
28:09
interference. Yeah, Trump nominated him. But Merrick
28:14
Garland is in charge of him. I mean, Merrick Garland. Come on
28:18
Merrick Garland. Let this guy do this. None of that makes no
28:23
sense.
28:26
John C Dvorak: Though, that I think is a point on your favor.
28:29
In the insofar as this is a palace plot or whatever your
28:33
stockpile, yes, a palace coup, the palace palace coup, a palace
28:37
coup is. So here we got the Biden ducks analysis. This is
28:43
from NTD. I've got to four clips. But the two of the clips
28:50
are about Russia. It's just changes. They change the topic
28:53
on me. But it actually becomes more interesting.
28:55
Unknown: President Biden has addressed the Special Counsel
28:58
report on his handling of classified documents. Joining us
29:01
now to explore the report as well as Biden's response we have
29:05
investigative journalist Jeff Carlson. He's also the co host
29:08
of truth over news on Epic TV. I want to start with Biden's
29:12
documents case where a hers 350 Plus page report confirms that
29:17
Biden committed multiple crimes and possessing that material,
29:21
saying that our Commander in Chief quote risks serious damage
29:24
to America's national security that included exposing
29:28
identities of clandestine CIA officers and some of the most
29:32
sensitive of America's foreign agents abroad. But he added that
29:35
Biden won't be prosecuted because he's too mentally
29:38
unsound to face a trial. What did you make of this report?
29:43
Well, there's two sides to the report effectively, right.
29:45
There's the body of the report the evidence that's masked, and
29:49
then there's the conclusion and the report itself. I mean, make
29:52
money you know, and make no mistake, it is very damning. It
29:55
provides great detail as to what Biden did. It even covers a
29:59
little Nolan's Don't worry that goes all the way back to 21.
30:03
When documents were at the Biden Pen Center that walks through
30:06
the entirety of that it makes very clear that, you know, Biden
30:09
should have been prosecuted except for the conclusion, and
30:12
that is that Biden is not mentally competent to be
30:16
prosecuted. And it's those statements that are causing a
30:19
firestorm for everybody right now.
30:23
On that note, following this report, Biden gave a surprise
30:26
address to the nation now one exchange that came up with this.
30:30
President Biden,
30:31
something that special counsel said in his report, is that one
30:35
of the reasons you are not in charge is because in his
30:38
description, you are a well meaning elderly man with a poor
30:43
memory.
30:44
I will mean, I'm an older man, and I know what the hell I'm
30:48
doing. I've been President, I put this country back on its
30:50
feet.
30:52
Is your memory. And can you continue as president?
30:55
My memory is so bad, I let you speak.
31:00
Adam Curry: Hold on, I just had another thought. It is entirely
31:04
possible that the M five M has been instructed to focus only on
31:09
the memory and not on the report, because the report is
31:12
indeed very damning. How about that?
31:16
John C Dvorak: Oh, I like that one. Because because I'm
31:18
thinking back on what was reported, they are concentrating
31:21
on this. And they're downplaying the report, the report itself,
31:26
Adam Curry: which is 300 pages of incredible Yeah, he's
31:30
John C Dvorak: got he's giving away
31:33
Adam Curry: doing it after he was VP. Right. So it's possible
31:40
that all of this is just to focus on that. And as we know,
31:43
Fox News is run by Democrats. So here Ducey focus on this, and
31:48
the President had a punch line for him. Yeah, which I'm not
31:52
thinking was on the history of
31:54
John C Dvorak: comedy was forced to liberate. Well, that's
31:57
Adam Curry: what I'm thinking it might have been written like,
31:59
you know, that's what I'm thinking now. All of a sudden,
32:01
that's very possible.
32:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there, I think that that actually might
32:08
be the answer.
32:10
Adam Curry: Well, you know, if you don't mind me interrupting
32:12
for a second, your clip, Meet the Press. Kristen, for some
32:18
reason need to bring in chip Todd, chug, chug, hurry, what's
32:21
his name? Chug, chug, hurry. And, and I think he has in this
32:28
clip, I think he has, you know, the only plan the only thing
32:31
that they can do,
32:32
Unknown: let's talk about the politics of this. Some of the
32:35
language in this report is just damning. You can't get around it
32:39
an elderly man with a poor memory. He's in the fight of his
32:42
political life. I
32:43
Adam Curry: love this. This. This is this may be what's going
32:46
on, John, the report is damning. He's an elderly man. How about
32:49
giving up CIA assets? Well,
32:52
Unknown: and it's also when is it coming? Right? It's coming on
32:54
the heels of just like more of the senators. He's accumulating
32:57
this this sort of a narrative that is the classic death by
33:00
1000 cuts, right? You know, the, the coal and the Helmut Kohl and
33:05
the Francoise miter on, and it's these, these tiny little things,
33:09
and every moment, of course, getting amplified by the right
33:12
wing noise machine. And it certainly does. You're seeing
33:15
with this in this in this report. There's an easy way,
33:19
though, for the White House to basically make this report
33:23
pointless about his memory, which is what I'm out there.
33:26
Yeah, let's see them out there all the time. The easiest way to
33:29
get rid of this storyline is to get them out there. Oh,
33:32
Adam Curry: yes. Get them out there. This report, the report
33:35
is only damning because he's, you know what, it all comes
33:39
together. Put that hey, this is Merrick Garland, who listen to
33:43
her? Listen to me, I see all these issues we've got going on
33:47
here, put something in there that makes him look like an old
33:49
turd. And we'll focus everybody on that. There's nothing about
33:55
the report itself. You're
33:59
John C Dvorak: preoccupied with insult?
34:02
Adam Curry: And Chip, Chuck is even saying oh, the right wing
34:06
noise machine will focus on that, like focus on that focus
34:09
on that focus on that. And I guarantee you the info Mavericks
34:12
will be focusing on that.
34:15
Unknown: Oh, focus? Yes, yes, this
34:17
Adam Curry: is it. Let's go back to the document itself. I'm glad
34:19
you have these clips.
34:23
Unknown: What's your reaction to this exchange? Well,
34:27
I mean, first of all, you have to consider the fact that they
34:29
felt compelled that they had to do this press conference in the
34:32
first place. In other words, they recognize that this report
34:36
was indeed that bad on both sides of it, both on terms of
34:39
the evidence and in terms of their conclusion. But think
34:43
about it this way. Biden is either too senile to be
34:47
prosecuted, or he should be prosecuted. Biden is either, you
34:52
know, not competent to stand trial. But conversely, is he
34:56
competent to be president? I mean, these are the very real
34:58
questions that determine a Democrat The party is facing
35:00
right now.
35:01
Adam Curry: Well, now anti D is falling into it.
35:05
John C Dvorak: It's hard not to it's the best part. Yeah. But
35:09
it's more entertaining than finding out that this guy is a
35:12
complete loser with all these documents that he has scattered
35:15
all over that the photos, you know, busted boxes, handwritten
35:20
notes. And then at his press conference, sorry, we don't have
35:24
the whole thing. He denies it. He says the report exonerates
35:29
him. Yeah, no. And he everything was in luck. We locked in filing
35:33
cabinets and nothing was in locked filing cabinet. So
35:35
they've done a good job
35:37
Adam Curry: of twisting. He said I didn't have my staff moved him
35:39
as my staff. I can't You can't blame
35:42
John C Dvorak: your staff under the bus. Wow.
35:45
Adam Curry: It may it may be this is it. The report is so
35:48
bad. And from what I've seen, it is so bad. They didn't want that
35:52
to be the focus. Mm hmm. Huh. Okay, brings a new
35:57
John C Dvorak: layer where you can spike the ball later. Let's
35:59
go. Now what happens now is they slightly changed the subject.
36:04
And it actually becomes kind of more interesting as he talks
36:07
about Russia.
36:08
Unknown: And Now switching gears a little bit. Fox News, former
36:10
Fox News host Tucker Carlson has been making headlines with his
36:14
interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Now there's been
36:17
mixed reactions, especially in the media world, with even the
36:20
EU proposing sanctions on him. What did you make of his
36:23
interview, but also the reactions around it?
36:27
You know, I found the reactions predictable. I think the media
36:30
is terrified both at what, you know, Putin's demonstration of
36:33
competence is grasp of history. But also, you know, like during
36:38
that interview, he made it very clear that he was open to having
36:42
a negotiated settlement to the war in Ukraine. And yet, you
36:45
know, that's been an ongoing effort where there's a continual
36:48
demand for funds to keep funding a war in Ukraine that's frankly
36:52
unwinnable and is always in my estimation, anyway, it has
36:55
always been unwinnable.
36:57
Now, the Tucker Putin interview covered a range of topics,
37:00
including AI, and even Elon Musk. But what was most
37:02
surprising to you,
37:04
the length of it, the fact that he was willing to there was it
37:08
was such a breadth of topics that were covered. You know,
37:10
this, this meeting went this interview went more than two
37:14
hours in length. Again, though, the first thing that I
37:16
gravitated to was Putin's throwing out there of his own,
37:19
you know, very forthright that he wanted a negotiated
37:22
settlement to Ukraine. That's probably the thing, first and
37:25
foremost, that grabbed my attention, as well as the fact
37:29
this understanding of history and that Russia, I think, as a
37:33
country is much more tied to their history than
37:37
unfortunately, we are here in the United States right now.
37:41
Adam Curry: I think it's correct that NTD switches to that,
37:44
because a was also Well, time to cover up massive coverage of the
37:50
Tucker Putin interview, there was very little time for anyone
37:53
to do it cover any of the content of it. And by the way,
37:56
he was very specific that Boris Johnson was the one that went
38:00
into because I watched that whole that was tedious to watch
38:03
the whole Tucker interview. But Putin very exactly as we
38:07
predicted, described, specifically, hey, the documents
38:11
were there. Boris Johnson flew in said, no, no, no, no, you're
38:14
not, you're not going to sign that you're going to fight. They
38:17
didn't say that in the NTD analysis. But it was also just a
38:21
great cover up. And when you're done with these clips, I have
38:24
some, I think some responses to the Tucker I do
38:27
John C Dvorak: want to mention something which is I was reading
38:31
various discussions where they kind of pass over this this
38:37
interview with Putin and almost everybody in the mainstream
38:40
media claims, and he started looking into it. They all say,
38:43
Well, the thing about it is we have to stay in this work
38:46
because Putin doesn't want to negotiate.
38:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, which is exactly
38:50
John C Dvorak: the opposite of what lie. All he wants to do is
38:55
negotiate.
38:56
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. I don't want to go back to Poland. And I
39:00
don't want to do it. Just listen, negotiate this thing
39:02
out. Let's do it, bro. That's my
39:04
John C Dvorak: daughter's on and on about the Minsk agreements
39:07
where everybody was ready to negotiate. And that was the
39:10
Boris Johnson thing I think he's doing pulled the plug on Minsk.
39:13
Yes. And so this is just like we're just being scammed by the
39:17
media in terms of their with the way they're presenting stuff to
39:21
us. Well,
39:21
Adam Curry: the focus is what's so amazing is how the focus is
39:25
put on certain things. That again, you know, you're getting
39:29
the same clips on Twitter, you're getting the same talking
39:33
points and focus really focus from the from the alternative
39:37
media, what I call the info Mavericks, like all other
39:40
lawyers talk about this with this. I wonder how many people
39:43
actually watched all two hours and seven minutes besides you
39:45
and I? Were all 17 minutes of Biden, this is no longer done. I
39:53
think people just sniffing each other's butts and getting each
39:55
other's clips.
39:56
John C Dvorak: Well, they're there. Yeah. It doesn't take
40:00
Eugenius to watch 70 minutes of Biden. Alright, let's go to part
40:04
two of this. And then there's just one other aspect, which is
40:07
the kind of the most interesting part of it. I don't know what's
40:10
going to come of it. And
40:11
Unknown: one thing that seems to be standing out to some was the
40:13
binder that Tucker was holding. What did you make of that?
40:17
Yes, in many respects, especially in kind of light of
40:20
the overshadowing events yesterday, that was the thing
40:23
that I thought was the most interesting at the very end. And
40:27
Tucker made a point of showing it for those that didn't see,
40:30
Tucker was given a very large binder of documents from Putin
40:35
to bring back in. It's unknown what's in there. But not only
40:39
did you see that at the end of the VNA interview in the
40:41
handoff, but Tucker made a very real point of posting that as a
40:45
separate clip, just he in the binder alone, and without
40:48
telling us what's in there, making very clear what it was
40:51
and pointed it out to everybody. So a lot of curiosity
40:55
surrounding what's exactly in all those documents.
40:58
Adam Curry: Oh, I know what's in the binder doesn't everybody
41:00
know? I thought that was well known. You don't see the binder
41:06
pictures of Taylor Swift.
41:09
John C Dvorak: I wonder where you're gonna go with that.
41:14
Kennedy, he's got this binder, which is means as soon as Tucker
41:17
gets back on the airplane, he'll be debriefed by a bunch of CIA
41:20
guys. Russia, he's always wanted to be as
41:23
Adam Curry: as as Putin even pointed out, you wanted to be a
41:26
CIA guy that wouldn't have they wouldn't have yet.
41:30
John C Dvorak: Supposedly, yeah. And supposedly, supposedly, and
41:35
so they're gonna go over the stuff with the fine tooth comb.
41:38
Now the problem is, is that what's Tucker gonna do with
41:42
this? Is he going to get release it, you know, if you release
41:46
part of it, of the binder, and you don't release it all, you
41:50
know, Putin has got a second copy that he can come to, here's
41:53
what they didn't release. And this is what's important. You
41:55
know, it could be a setup or something like for for a stunt
41:59
like that? It could be there's it who knows, well, this is what
42:04
we're gonna find out eventually. But the binder is swift
42:08
Adam Curry: comes into play. It's like whatever, whatever it
42:10
is. It'll be aI generated fake. Baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's
42:17
John C Dvorak: what you could do. So
42:19
Adam Curry: Tucker Carlson might be prosecuted for under the
42:22
Espionage Act and lawyer or just as just noise, just noise. You
42:30
know, tech companies will be testing European Union law,
42:34
regulating lies. You know, you can't put that on the internet.
42:38
You can't put that on your platform. It's lies. And most
42:41
importantly, I want you all to know, Tucker Carlson is not a
42:46
journalist. He
42:47
Unknown: is not a journalist. He is not someone that you need to
42:49
take seriously. In fact, he's someone who there would be no
42:52
reason to take him seriously. So he cannot be held liable for the
42:55
things that he says so to try to couch what he's doing right now
42:58
is supposedly being being about journalism is absolutely
43:01
ridiculous.
43:01
Tucker Carlson
43:02
John C Dvorak: is going to be there and be the journalist that
43:04
none of us are actually
43:05
Unknown: Tucker, you are not in journalism a long time ago.
43:08
Sure. But these days, you've been in the propaganda business.
43:12
And yeah, journalist in quotes. Yes.
43:14
I'm alive say his name. Yes. Yes, I'm just his name is Tucker
43:17
Carlson. And he is the only American journalist who has been
43:22
able to interview Putin since the invasion in 2022. Tucker
43:25
Carlson is not a journalist. Not even close. Why he's doing this
43:30
interview. Now, obviously, for the Kremlin, it makes sense if
43:33
they want to talk. It's a friendly, it's a friendly voice,
43:36
but we will keep trying our best to actually commit journalism.
43:40
We have already decided you are literally the worst media figure
43:44
imaginable to be doing an interview with Russia's Vladimir
43:46
Putin. You have no journalistic credibility.
43:49
None that I mean, he's like a puppy dog. I find it gobsmacking
43:53
terrifying to ally and it's clear, like we talked about, you
43:55
know, disinformation on social media. Well, disinformation from
43:58
people like Tucker Carlson,
44:00
Adam Curry: Tucker Carlson is lying from the streets of
44:03
Russia, no less. So he's not a jerk. What is the journalist now
44:07
do you have to go to journalism school to be considered a
44:11
journalist? I just want to get this straight skinny on this.
44:15
John C Dvorak: Well, it depends on your definition. Bloggers are
44:18
considered journalism in some quarters. You can define it in a
44:22
lot of different ways. But anyone who keeps a journal would
44:24
be a journalist, anyone who's a reporter reports on something
44:27
would be a journalist to be tactic. There's no licensing in
44:32
the United States, in some countries to be a journalist,
44:35
for example, Brazil, you have to have a license, maybe the
44:40
government and that's the way to go and they would like that here
44:44
too. But no, no, you can be you can just call yourself a
44:47
journalist and you are I would use the term ipso facto, a
44:52
journalist, ipso
44:54
Adam Curry: facto, if you use the word ipso facto, you are are
45:00
in fact a journalist right that absolutely. Here's Chris Wallace
45:03
Tucker
45:04
Unknown: Carlson showed up in Moscow this week to interview
45:06
Vladimir Putin. It turned out to be anything but an interview.
45:11
No, Putin droned on for two hours and seven minutes wasn't
45:15
an interview he did let him drone on. While Tucker is out
45:17
there like an eager puppy, eager puppy. Oh, where
45:20
Adam Curry: have I heard this before?
45:21
Unknown: I mean, he's like a puppy dog because he is a useful
45:24
idiot. Oh, occasionally, but rarely. He got an a question
45:28
like this one about the power of the deep state in Washington.
45:34
It sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the
45:37
people who are elected in your telling you it's true.
45:45
But more telling them what Tucker asked is what he didn't
45:48
ask nothing about why Putin invaded a sovereign country.
45:53
Nothing about targeting civilians. Nothing about Russian
45:57
war crimes. A reporter can ask Putin a tough question. If he
46:02
wants a real interview. Listen to this. Why is it that so many
46:06
of the people that oppose Vladimir Putin end up dead or
46:12
close to it?
46:13
Adam Curry: So Chris Wallace says Tucker Carlson is no good,
46:17
doesn't ask the right questions, and then cuts to a clip of him
46:20
asking Putin a tough question. I mean, whoa, bro, ego much.
46:27
Unknown: Why is it that so many of the people that oppose
46:31
Vladimir Putin end up dead or close to it? But apparently,
46:38
that's not why Tucker went to Moscow. During the Cold War,
46:42
gullible Westerners who spread Soviet propaganda were dismissed
46:46
as useful idiots. But calling Tucker that is unfair to useful
46:52
idiot. Well, oh, no, he's made a cynical affection for dictators.
46:58
And what better way to cash in than Putin's Kremlin?
47:02
Oh, yeah. Oh,
47:03
you got butt flap?
47:05
John C Dvorak: I wonder if I, if Chris Wallace ever asked
47:10
Hillary, that exact same question.
47:14
Adam Curry: There was one, there is one piece that I didn't hear
47:17
anyone talk about? A question that wasn't even a question.
47:23
It's something I don't think it was even a question. Because you
47:26
know, Tucker's not journalist. But Putin had something very
47:28
interesting to say here, you
47:30
Unknown: just asked me if another leader comes and changes
47:32
something. It is not about the leader. It is not about the
47:36
personality of a particular person, it that she didn't, I
47:40
had the very good relationship with the say, Bush. I know that
47:44
in the United States, he was portrayed as some kind of a
47:47
country boy who does not understand much, but I assure
47:51
you that this is not the case. I think he made a lot of mistakes
47:55
with regard to Russia, too. I told you about 2008. And the
47:59
decision in Bucharest to open the NATO's doors to for Ukraine
48:03
and so on. That happened during his presidency, he actually
48:07
exercised pressure on the Europeans. But in general, on a
48:11
personal human level, I had a very good relationship with him.
48:14
He was no worse than any other American or Russian or European
48:19
politician. I assure you, he understood what he was doing as
48:22
well as others. I had such personal relationship with Trump
48:26
as well. It is not about the personality of the leader. It is
48:30
about the elites mindset. If the idea of domination at any cost
48:35
based also on forceful actions, dominates the American society,
48:40
nothing will change. It will only get worse. Yeah,
48:44
Adam Curry: exactly. He can take over the show. If we cut out the
48:49
pauses like I did on that clip, he can easily take over take
48:52
over the show. Everything that we have deconstructed. Putin
48:57
said the half hour background on Russia was interesting. I mean,
49:02
just from a historical standpoint, now, but no play, no
49:08
John C Dvorak: play. Yeah, it was interesting. If you wanted
49:10
to listen to Russian history, which
49:12
Adam Curry: I didn't have, but you know, a little bit not all
49:15
that. But yeah, so everything came at the right time. You
49:18
know, we had Biden making all the noise. I think that got the
49:22
most noise from the noise machine. I like that the noise
49:27
machine. And even then, even I didn't even see Fox do very much
49:31
on Tucker and Putin, did you?
49:35
John C Dvorak: Actually, I don't recall anything. And I there's
49:38
two or three shows I've watched kind of routinely, yes. And I
49:42
don't recall them bringing it up at all,
49:44
Adam Curry: because he's persona non grata at the Democrat run.
49:48
Fox News. They kicked him out. I did want to go back briefly to
49:55
the Biden thing because I would have wrapped this up if we
49:57
hadn't gotten on a different track about covering up the
50:00
report Smerconish. Where's that guy from that Smerconish? Does
50:05
he have a radio show? Smerconish must
50:08
John C Dvorak: be like a radio reason I can't come up with a
50:11
radio guy. He
50:12
Adam Curry: had an Obama confidant extraordinaire, David
50:17
Axelrod, on. Axelrod, who didn't you run Obama's first campaign?
50:24
John C Dvorak: Yes. He ran Obama's campaigns and he hates
50:27
Biden.
50:28
Adam Curry: And he's a podcaster. Now, he's a podcast.
50:31
John C Dvorak: Is he? I don't know. podcaster. X Files? Yes,
50:35
he
50:35
Adam Curry: has. He has a podcast and Smerconish. Ask them
50:38
about Big Mike. And
50:39
Unknown: there's like always a family member who says, in my
50:43
case, it's my brother. Keep your eye on Michelle Obama. And I say
50:47
that is crazy. What should we be saying about Michelle Obama?
50:51
Well, here's what I know. Michelle Obama, Obama loves this
50:56
country. She's She's a brilliant person and a brilliant
51:00
communicator. But she was a conscript to politics. She never
51:04
was interested in a political life. Even when Barack Obama was
51:09
a young politician. She really didn't participate much in his
51:13
campaigns. I was with him in his Senate campaign in 2004. I think
51:17
she showed up twice in the whole campaign on election nights. So,
51:23
you know, she, she's not someone who likes politics. She doesn't
51:27
like the tone and tenor of politics. And I would be floored
51:34
if she would consent to that. They feel that they gave 10
51:40
years of their life to this, and I'm sure she feels as Barbara
51:44
Bush did when she said there has to be someone other than the
51:47
bushes and the Clintons who could be President of the United
51:50
States. My guess is that's her attitude. I always say, Michael,
51:52
that I have as much chance of dancing in the Bolshoi Ballet
51:56
next year, then, then that she would be President of the United
52:00
States. And so if you see me running around at the end of the
52:03
year in a leotard you'll know what
52:06
Adam Curry: I was gonna say both. I
52:09
Unknown: hear the Bolshoi maybe once maybe once and for all.
52:13
David Axelrod just put it to rest. Unless Cindy Adams is not
52:18
watching. Thank Thank you, David.
52:22
Adam Curry: I think he's still left that open. No, you might,
52:27
might be in leotards.
52:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the funnier line is a two two. Yeah,
52:33
Adam Curry: I was waiting for him. I agree. I was waiting for
52:35
him to say two two and because he didn't say two, two, I think
52:38
he left it open. Yeah, yes. He left it open. I'm just hedging
52:42
my buddy.
52:43
John C Dvorak: My buddy. My buddy microdata
52:46
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, mouse, man. Give me a break. There's no
52:50
evidence there weren't microdots
52:54
John C Dvorak: Hmm. So you get to bring that up. We have to
53:03
talk about this, though. I think we're done with it. Yeah, no,
53:06
I'm
53:07
Adam Curry: I'm wait. I think we've handled Biden and Putin
53:09
and we're good to go.
53:12
John C Dvorak: I got mail in ballots are no good.
53:15
Unknown: Republicans and Democrats don't agree on mail
53:18
and voting. according to a Pew Research poll. They disagree by
53:22
a lot with Republicans largely opposed. A different poll on
53:26
mail in ballot fraud may explain why NTDs Arlene Richards has the
53:30
details. Some
53:32
Americans don't like mail in ballots that much, while others
53:36
like it a lot. Nationally 57% of poll respondents favor mail in
53:41
ballots. A recent Pew Research poll shows 84% of Democrats
53:45
favor mail in ballots, while only 28% of Republicans favor
53:49
the practice. According to the survey voters have changed their
53:52
views on different voting measures in recent years,
53:55
particularly regarding voting by mail. Four years ago, 70% of
53:59
American adults favored it. But now only 57% do. Democrats views
54:05
on mail in ballots have remained almost unchanged since 2020.
54:09
While Republicans have become less fond of it, dropping from
54:13
49% to 28%. One reason for the change in opinion may be due to
54:18
an increased likelihood of fraud. Well, how
54:21
Adam Curry: are we going to steal an election if we don't
54:23
have mail in ballots?
54:24
John C Dvorak: That's exactly right. And then of course, the
54:26
part is pretty I think this next clip, which is part two is is
54:31
incredibly underreported by the mainstream, it's not reported at
54:35
all.
54:35
Unknown: A study conducted by the Heartland Institute
54:38
concludes the fraud influenced the 2020 presidential election
54:41
results. The study was based on data obtained from the heartland
54:45
Rasmussen survey in December. According to the survey, about
54:49
one in five Mellon voters admitted to potentially
54:52
fraudulent actions in the 2020 presidential election. The
54:56
researchers believed the fraud significantly impacted the
54:59
results of the ill election in favor of Joe Biden. The report
55:03
states that if the majority of Americans had cast their ballots
55:06
in person, Donald Trump would almost certainly have been
55:09
reelected.
55:10
Adam Curry: So there was a poll, which is Rasmussen, which is, I
55:13
think, usually seen as a right wing far right poll, where
55:18
people actually admitted that they they defrauded it. Yeah.
55:24
John C Dvorak: He ever heard this either, have you? No, of
55:26
Adam Curry: course not.
55:27
John C Dvorak: Of course not.
55:29
Adam Curry: What I did here is some of the oral arguments of
55:32
the Supreme Court regarding Trump being on the ballot in, in
55:36
Colorado. So this is, this is entertaining. Yes. The Supreme
55:40
Court discussing now. Well, hold on a second, you guys had some
55:46
mind reader who testified that Trump was intending to be an
55:50
insurrectionists. And on basis of that you said, Oh, he
55:54
committed an insurrection. Now, I think a point we brought up as
55:58
well, if you can take someone off the ballot, because they
56:04
incited an erection. Oops, I did it.
56:08
John C Dvorak: On purpose? Oh, actually, I
56:09
Adam Curry: didn't. Because it's easy to do, I guess what's on my
56:12
mind because they incited an insurrection. You could also
56:16
make that case against Nancy Pelosi for not having the
56:22
Capitol Police or National Guard whatever was asked of her. And
56:28
what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And Chief
56:30
Justice Roberts said exactly that. If
56:33
Unknown: Colorado's position is upheld, surely there will be
56:38
disqualification proceedings on the other side. And some of
56:42
those will succeed. Some of them will have different standards of
56:46
proof. Some of them will have different rules about evidence,
56:51
maybe the Senate report won't be accepted and others because it's
56:54
hearsay. Maybe it's beyond a reasonable doubt whatever the in
56:58
very quick order, I would expect. Although my predictions
57:02
never been correct, I would expect that a goodly number of
57:07
states will say whoever the Democratic candidate is, you're
57:11
off the ballot and others. For the Republican candidate, you're
57:15
off the ballot, it will come down to just a handful of states
57:18
that are going to decide the presidential election. That's a
57:21
pretty daunting consequence.
57:24
Well, certainly, Your Honor, the fact that there are potential
57:26
frivolous applications of a constitutional provision isn't a
57:30
reason. Well, no,
57:30
hold on. I mean, you might think you're frivolous. But the people
57:33
who are bringing them may not think they're frivolous.
57:36
Insurrection is a broad, broad term. And if there's some debate
57:40
about it, I suppose that will go into the decision. And then
57:44
eventually what we would be deciding whether there was an
57:47
insurrection when one president did something as opposed to when
57:50
somebody else does something else, when that'd
57:53
Adam Curry: be great if we only had like 10 states that have
57:56
both on the ballot.
57:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's your That's democracy for you. That's
58:01
exactly training. Democracy. Yeah.
58:05
Adam Curry: Man, this is great. What a great time to be doing a
58:07
podcast.
58:09
John C Dvorak: It's podcast time.
58:10
Adam Curry: It is it is podcast time. It's fantastic. I'm loving
58:13
it. I'm loving it. So well, I mean, the general consensus,
58:17
including from our constitutional lawyer is that
58:21
the Supreme Court will reverse the Colorado Supreme Court
58:25
decision now, if they're, I
58:29
John C Dvorak: should point out that most of the analysts to
58:32
watch or listen to all of the eight listened to quite a bit of
58:36
it. But it turned out to be the liberals who are really jumping
58:39
all over this because they just thought it was ridiculous. So
58:44
it's going to it's either going to be eight to one or which be
58:46
Sotomayor she did was the only one that seems sympathetic, or
58:51
nine to nothing, and this is not even going to be close the art
58:55
are.
58:57
Adam Curry: Our constitutional boots on the ground lawyer says
58:59
he says the odds are good that Sotomayor will dissent. She'll
59:03
be the only one. But then of course, the question is on what
59:07
grounds will they overturn it? It could be multiple grounds to
59:12
make it a little fuzzier. You know, not to just who I you
59:16
know, was not getting to the insurrection part. Let's just
59:19
say bla bla bla bla bla bla, I think they're gonna go for blah
59:24
blah, blah,
59:25
John C Dvorak: blah. So I have a little clip here. That shouldn't
59:28
be tween clips.
59:30
Adam Curry: I love an entre ma entre Manuel muse. Boosh.
59:34
John C Dvorak: I finally got a clip of Reverend Al. Oh, good,
59:39
harder to catch now. Yes. So I have him. He says he's talking
59:43
about my orcas and how he's going to be another trying to
59:45
impeach me orcas, and I just knew it'd be a matter of time.
59:49
Before After he said it once, twice, three times before he
59:55
screwed it up. Here we go. Homeland
59:57
Unknown: Security Secretary Alejandro hello world because
1:00:01
they are raucous DHS Secretary maracas Secretary Mary Oh cuz
1:00:06
there's no
1:00:07
Adam Curry: real conflict. Mary Okis
1:00:10
John C Dvorak: Mary Okay, Mary Okay,
1:00:12
Adam Curry: that's I'm gonna write that down. Mary, how do
1:00:14
you spell? It's Mary m a r y ocus oak ies, Emery Emery OCO.
1:00:21
ES Yeah. Mary ocus Ah The Rev. I let them go live these days. Is
1:00:27
that Is that what they're doing? They just let him
1:00:30
John C Dvorak: he's on tape. really screws up date pull it
1:00:33
just letting
1:00:33
Adam Curry: them go while man let him go wild. Oh. I heard a
1:00:42
an ad the COVID is is is striking people again.
1:00:47
John C Dvorak: Get back slow COVID COVID-19. I'm not waiting.
1:00:52
If it's COVID x COVID.
1:00:54
Adam Curry: I just want you to hear all the disclaimers in this
1:00:56
ad. This is not a good product people excellent.
1:01:00
Unknown: It is an oral treatment for adults with mild to moderate
1:01:02
COVID-19 and a high risk factor for it becoming severe.
1:01:05
It does not prevent COVID 19 symptoms are mild
1:01:08
now. But I'm not risking it. I'm
1:01:10
Adam Curry: not here you're my symptoms are mild. You have a
1:01:12
little flu, a little cough, but I'm not risking it
1:01:14
Unknown: if it's COVID vaccinated. Tech SLOVAN must be
1:01:18
taken within the first five days of symptoms and help stop the
1:01:21
virus from multiplying in your body.
1:01:23
Adam Curry: Oh it helps the virus from stops it from
1:01:25
multiplying in your body. Wow. Taking
1:01:28
Unknown: pecs a little bit but certain medicines can lead to
1:01:30
serious or life threatening side effects. affect how it or other
1:01:33
medicines work, including hormonal birth control is
1:01:36
critical to tell your doctor about all the medicines you take
1:01:38
because certain tests or changes in their dosage may be needed.
1:01:41
Tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems, HIV
1:01:43
one our plan to become pregnant or breastfeed, don't take packs
1:01:46
loaded. If you're allergic to numerous welfare ritonavir or
1:01:48
any of its ingredients. Serious side effects can include
1:01:51
allergic reactions, some severe like anaphylaxis and liver
1:01:54
problems.
1:01:55
These are not all the possible side effects.
1:01:57
So talk to your doctor.
1:01:58
Adam Curry: I love that this is new. These are not all the
1:02:02
possible side effects. Talk to your doctor. They're not even
1:02:05
disclaiming the death anymore.
1:02:08
John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah, I liked it. I knew that is new,
1:02:12
but they can get away with it. That's what they're gonna do.
1:02:15
Adam Curry: And they also show the lady beginning it through
1:02:18
telemedicine. They show her on the laptop talking to her
1:02:21
doctor. That's you know, talking to your doctor is now real
1:02:24
thing. It's not your doctor at some dude in Vegas, you know,
1:02:29
who also who's also a car valet. And on the side he takes $10
1:02:33
calls and prescribes you tax COVID It's really bad. Not good
1:02:41
products.
1:02:46
John C Dvorak: The I got another onshore mount if you want to
1:02:49
Adam Curry: play one more, one more. This is a Tedros. So the
1:02:53
pandemic treaty that everyone's up in arms about now, because it
1:02:58
will give the World Health Organization all this control
1:03:01
and which is basically turning
1:03:04
John C Dvorak: it over and turning your sovereignty over to
1:03:06
one world government. Yes. But the negotiators will sign it
1:03:11
will sign it.
1:03:12
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. The negotiations are failing because
1:03:16
of the patents. So the so the big the big pharma companies
1:03:21
like ya know, we're all in it. But none of you we're not going
1:03:24
to give it to just every country unless they pay. Yeah, but you
1:03:28
remember, the patent was always the issue. Like give it to the
1:03:32
rest of the world. Now we're not going to give it away. I mean,
1:03:34
come on, we have patents on this stuff. We're not going to let
1:03:36
you produce it. We'll sell it to you. So Tedros. And by the way,
1:03:40
it's no longer the treaty. There's a new word it's, it's
1:03:43
the pandemic agreement,
1:03:44
Unknown: the pandemic agreement is mission critical. Humanity,
1:03:48
Adam Curry: it's mission critical for humanity agreement,
1:03:51
pandemic
1:03:52
Unknown: agreement is mission critical for humanity. in place
1:03:57
before COVID-19, we would not have lost so much we would not
1:04:01
have suffered so much.
1:04:04
Adam Curry: If only we had it in place before COVID We would have
1:04:07
not lost so much on the
1:04:08
Unknown: generation that lived through COVID-19. We have a
1:04:13
collective responsibility to protect future generations from
1:04:17
the suffering we endured. As young people you have the most
1:04:23
to gain from a strong agreement, it's likely you will face
1:04:27
another pandemic in your
1:04:28
Adam Curry: lifetime. Because it happens only once every 100
1:04:31
years. We
1:04:32
Unknown: can't know how mild or severe it might be. But we can
1:04:37
be prepared.
1:04:38
Adam Curry: So if I may speak to the younger generations do not
1:04:42
allow this thing to be signed. Do not do not let these people
1:04:48
control anything. Last night we were at a restaurant here the
1:04:52
fried Helms, the schnitzel restaurant, which is if you ever
1:04:56
come into Fredericksburg, skip everything go to fried helms as
1:05:00
cheap as affordable, is German is good. And so, so our server
1:05:07
comes over. Hi everybody. I'm Adam. And he says, you know, and
1:05:10
we're all of course, oh, US and my name is Adam. And he says,
1:05:13
Oh, yes, respect for my elders. And this was the first time in
1:05:16
my heart really sank. I'm like, holy crap. I'm an old guy. This
1:05:22
is the first time that really that's pretty insulting. Well,
1:05:25
and I said, Oh, you know, it's
1:05:26
John C Dvorak: insulting. I'm gonna just as an aside, what I
1:05:29
think is totally insulting is when you have a clerk calling
1:05:33
you especially you know, you're I'm in my 70s saying, young man,
1:05:39
Unknown: that's, that's insulting.
1:05:41
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank you very much young man.
1:05:44
Adam Curry: That beat him up. Hit him with your cane.
1:05:46
John C Dvorak: I would if I had a cane, I should carry a cane
1:05:49
just for that purpose, you
1:05:50
Adam Curry: know, with your walker. Well, the thing is,
1:05:53
like, Oh, dude, and then he got he got beat read. I mean, it was
1:05:58
very, the whole thing all round was bad. But I was just like,
1:06:01
oh, there it is. This the first time actually just had to come
1:06:04
to terms with it. I'm an old man. You said
1:06:07
John C Dvorak: dude. I said, dude. No, brother, dude.
1:06:13
Adam Curry: So anyway, as an old man, children, young generation,
1:06:16
do not let them you know, sign this pandemic treaty agreement
1:06:21
agreement. Do not do it, do not do it. And while you're at it,
1:06:26
have some kids please before the
1:06:29
Unknown: end of this century, the world population will shrink
1:06:31
for the first time since the Bubonic Plague of the 1300s not
1:06:35
because of an increase in deaths, but because of a slump
1:06:38
in births. Across the world fertility rate is collapsing in
1:06:42
the year 2000. It stood at 2.7 births per woman. Today it is
1:06:45
2.3. And countries are worried including France, France is
1:06:49
asked 25 year olds to get fertility checks. This has
1:06:53
invited massive backlash. Meanwhile, Singapore wants
1:06:56
people to celebrate the year of the Dragon by having quote
1:06:59
unquote, little dragons of their own. That's what they call it
1:07:02
babies to make the concept more interesting, perhaps, but when
1:07:05
these tactics work,
1:07:07
Adam Curry: little dragons. So you know, we've been talking
1:07:10
about what the former New York banker told me about the about
1:07:15
our population, that as long as we still have people, that as
1:07:20
our population grows, we beat every other country, most
1:07:23
notably China. So Bloomberg, two stories today. First story,
1:07:27
immigration. Now, they don't say newcomers, visitors, aliens,
1:07:33
illegal aliens, they say immigration will boost the US
1:07:36
economy by $7 trillion. And then, and then the UK, soaring
1:07:43
UK migration, which is the people coming in on rubber boats
1:07:46
across the channel, gives hunt that's the Chancellor of the
1:07:52
Exchequer, up to 18 billion pound benefit, he doesn't have
1:07:57
to raise taxes. So it's working as intended. You know, because
1:08:04
they work at or above the level of the people who are to live
1:08:08
which means cheaper. It's It's unbelievable. They're just
1:08:12
saying it now. So I think this the horse has left the stable.
1:08:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we'll explain this one. Here's my clip
1:08:20
immigration results. Immigration
1:08:23
Adam Curry: results. Here
1:08:24
Unknown: we go. A new congressional report estimates
1:08:27
that the influx of illegal immigrants will force down wages
1:08:30
in the US. This comes as lawmakers in one state advanced
1:08:34
a bill that would extend government funded health
1:08:36
insurance to illegal immigrants and to his area and past our has
1:08:40
an immigration update is
1:08:42
very difficult to know with precision, who are the, you know
1:08:46
the people and such as coming across the border now, the
1:08:50
Congressional Budget Office or CBO released a budget outlook
1:08:53
report for the next 10 years. Same report estimates that
1:08:57
America's population will increase over the next decade
1:09:00
due to immigration. This will also take its toll on wages. The
1:09:04
report states that average real wages are expected to be
1:09:07
slightly lower by 2034 than they would be otherwise. Say the
1:09:11
report's most shocking projection is that it expects
1:09:14
government debt will rise by $20 trillion in the next decade to
1:09:18
$54 trillion. Now this new report comes just as state
1:09:22
senators in Virginia advanced a health care bill for immigrants.
1:09:26
The cover or kits Act would provide state funded health care
1:09:29
to all low income immigrants under the age of 19. Now a
1:09:32
Republican state senator who oppose the bill reportedly said
1:09:36
it would cost Virginia taxpayers $100 million just in this decade
1:09:40
and an update on this attack on police officers near Times
1:09:44
Square in which a group of illegal immigrants punched two
1:09:46
officers and kicked their heads as they were lying on the
1:09:49
ground. Seven individuals allegedly involved in this
1:09:52
incident have now been indicted. Manhattan district attorney
1:09:56
Alvin Bragg who doesn't often address the public held a press
1:09:59
conference on Thursday. Stay this assault
1:10:02
as it did to many of you sicken me and outrage me. We all rely
1:10:08
on our members of the NYPD every day as I said, to keep us safe
1:10:13
and keep this the safest big city in America.
1:10:17
Greg also commented on speculation that the suspects
1:10:20
had been caught in Arizona after fleeing New York. He dismissed
1:10:24
those reports saying they're not true.
1:10:26
Adam Curry: I'm gonna disregard the last bit of the report the
1:10:28
first bit was super interesting and because the $7 trillion
1:10:32
number comes from the same CBO report and the health care part
1:10:37
is is phenomenally interesting because the UK they also there's
1:10:43
a whole bunch of stories now because it is are you going to
1:10:45
give away health health care to visitors newcomers and in the
1:10:51
UK, they've been doing just that. So here's the story
1:10:53
headlines sharp rise in people waiting over 12 hours at the
1:10:58
emergency room in this is all the NHS is the socialized health
1:11:02
care but my favorite headline I couldn't get an NHS dentist
1:11:06
appointment for six months I had to pull up my own tooth with
1:11:09
pliers Yes Where I live many people don't even have teeth
1:11:15
anymore but there's a solution solution reports the Daily Mail
1:11:20
millions will get fluoride added to their tap water and biggest
1:11:23
expansion of controversial scheme since the 1980s. Yes No
1:11:29
cavities but it'll make it nice and docile unbelievable get out
1:11:35
of the UK people run Oh my my my I'm kind of happy I'm old now
1:11:44
I'm gonna have to witness all the all the mayhem coming. Well,
1:11:48
yeah, you can call me no code. This is This is horrible. Really
1:11:53
is. But of course you know, just
1:11:57
John C Dvorak: to play just to continue that clip but not a
1:12:00
continuation but just another this is another thing doesn't
1:12:03
get reported much in this in this in the mainstream this way.
1:12:05
I didn't know this until I heard I think is NTD. Play this one.
1:12:10
This is the New York City new shooting a new shooting. The
1:12:13
NYPD
1:12:14
Unknown: has revealed the suspect in a shooting in Times
1:12:16
Square last night. A 15 year old was arrested after allegedly
1:12:20
opened firing at a tourist police identified the teen as an
1:12:24
immigrant from Venezuela.
1:12:27
And I gotta tell you what those bullets hit saw accomplish
1:12:33
tonight. This is a whole different conversation we're
1:12:36
having today. My concern our concern the community's concern
1:12:40
is to take this on juvenile the streets.
1:12:46
Authorities say the suspect came to the US last September and was
1:12:50
living in a temporary migrant shelter. According to the NYPD,
1:12:54
he shot a Brazilian tourist in the leg inside a retail store
1:12:58
and began to shove clothing into a bag. As he ran off he
1:13:01
allegedly opened fire again just a fluke a few blocks away
1:13:05
attempting to lose the police officials say he's also a
1:13:09
suspect and an armed robbery in the Bronx last month. During the
1:13:13
shooting, the 15 year old was accompanied by two other
1:13:16
suspects. Well,
1:13:17
Adam Curry: since we're doing bummer news about New York City
1:13:20
and regarding regarding replacement migration, let's add
1:13:24
one more to the mix before I build everybody up cutting
1:13:26
Unknown: the fat that's a good thing when we want it. But the
1:13:29
city cuts $60 million out of the Education Department's budget
1:13:33
for school lunches. And the cuts announced in November have
1:13:36
started impacting school lunches across the city and is now being
1:13:40
noticed including here at this house kitchen location home to
1:13:43
five schools and 1000s of students.
1:13:46
A lot of kids don't eat so they're hungry and they're tired
1:13:49
and they don't participate or perform well in their classes.
1:13:52
It like really drains them out at home hungry and stuff. And
1:13:55
like usually we get snack or sometimes you don't eat or
1:13:57
there's no snack at all. When we don't get snack you know we
1:14:00
can't we can't be doing all that
1:14:01
the city school system serves close to 900,000 meals a day.
1:14:05
While the city still provides meals. Secondary and alternative
1:14:08
items are phased out like chicken fingers and french
1:14:11
fries. Mayor Adams announced the cuts the result of the city's
1:14:15
spending on the migrant crisis. Over the past year and a half
1:14:18
over 170,000 Migrants have come to New York City requiring
1:14:22
housing food education and other services that causes a cuts is
1:14:27
driving a wedge that they're more tired.
1:14:29
They're less able to focus in class throughout the day. They
1:14:33
have headaches or stomach aches, they have less energy, and all
1:14:37
of that affects learning and their ability to take advantage
1:14:41
of being in school.
1:14:41
So here's where it gets confusing. The Education
1:14:44
Department says despite the cut to the food budget, all of that
1:14:47
money is being replaced by incoming funds from the federal
1:14:49
government. Parents say then it doesn't make sense why the food
1:14:53
budget has been tinkered with and they say food for students
1:14:56
should be the last thing that's touched.
1:14:58
Adam Curry: All right couple things first of all, Get out of
1:15:01
the cities. This is no longer a safe or healthy place to live.
1:15:05
Second, they're feeding the kids. Chicken Nuggets and french
1:15:11
fries. give your kid a sandwich. Bologna with mayonnaise for all
1:15:15
I care. Oh, we have no snacks. Of course not. Of course the
1:15:19
kids are slow because you've got them addicted to sugar. Oh, we
1:15:23
need a snack. I need a snack to get my sugar Oh app. No. There's
1:15:30
right now there's a beef shortage in America. They're
1:15:34
they're messing with our food. They really are. And then the
1:15:39
farmer protest is a part of that all over Europe. I hope that our
1:15:43
farmers here eventually get in on the action. I don't know if
1:15:46
they ever will. I'm quite frankly, I'm surprised. But we
1:15:50
John C Dvorak: you know, it's they're not even letting us know
1:15:52
about the farmers protests in Europe and in the media
1:15:57
Unknown: near the village of Doris on Poland's Ukrainian
1:16:00
border. A bitter chill hangs in the air. Schools are furious
1:16:04
farmers have been blockading checkpoints demanding urgent
1:16:08
change from the governments in Warsaw. And in Brussels. The
1:16:11
source of their ire is agricultural products being
1:16:14
imported from Ukraine. Originally, they were meant to
1:16:17
support the Ukrainian economy during its war with Russia. But
1:16:21
now government policies are sparking unrest at home. Our
1:16:25
heads are on the water. We don't have any more money to
1:16:27
compensate for our losses in farming. It's our passion, but
1:16:31
not our livelihood anymore, unfortunately, is still our own
1:16:35
source of income. 1000s of other Polish farmers were expected in
1:16:38
the city of paws noun, anger there was supposed to focus on
1:16:41
European Union climate change policies. Opponents agriculture
1:16:45
minister said on Thursday, he understood the challenges
1:16:48
farmers were facing. Once the scene of gladiatorial conflict
1:16:51
Italy's Coliseum on Friday, saw tractors driving past, Italian
1:16:55
farmers say their battle is just as historic. We're not
1:16:59
here to protest. We're here to make proposals. Yesterday, we
1:17:03
presented sign copies of these proposals to the government, and
1:17:06
we're confident they will receive us together we will see
1:17:09
if Europe still wants to Italian farmer
1:17:11
the challenges they face are sizeable and growing. The EU
1:17:14
last week watered down climate commitments, apparently bowing
1:17:18
to Farmer demands that had called them overly burdensome.
1:17:21
So they're
1:17:21
Adam Curry: basically just chopping the farmers out,
1:17:24
they're no longer giving them the subsidies they need because
1:17:26
they don't want to feed their Nations. And it's cool to see
1:17:29
tractors in front of the Colosseum in Rome, they're no
1:17:31
longer they don't want to feed their Nations with healthy
1:17:35
products. And I consider beef to be a very healthy good product.
1:17:39
However, even in Texas, we've turned our ranchers into
1:17:43
commodity cowboys. And there's only three big processing
1:17:46
plants, and you need to find a rancher and there's plenty of
1:17:50
them beef initiative.com, which my buddy Texas slim set up,
1:17:54
there's plenty of them around the United States, you need to
1:17:57
go and shake ranchers hand and say hi, I need to buy some of
1:18:01
your beef. Because right now we in our supermarket here heb
1:18:05
that's from South America and they put USDA prime on it. They
1:18:09
drive that shut stuff up. They got a big cattle drive our Texas
1:18:12
Beef being sold like caviar to China. That's it and get out of
1:18:18
the cities. buy an RV for care. Get out, get into a small
1:18:24
community. You really need to do this because this is the
1:18:28
problem. It's the immigration is all it's not none of it's good.
1:18:33
But small communities can survive and certainly innovative
1:18:37
young people can figure stuff out. You can work by via remote.
1:18:43
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm glad you got that clip of the farm
1:18:45
because the farmers because they're not playing any of that
1:18:49
on PBS what they've decided to do because they know people
1:18:52
notice protests going on in Europe. They've decided to PBS
1:18:56
is from PBS. They've decided to to bring it show protest the big
1:19:01
European protests in Germany as far
1:19:04
Adam Curry: right the Nazis. Germany AFD
1:19:07
John C Dvorak: coverage here's PBS weeks
1:19:09
Unknown: Germans have been flooding into streets squares
1:19:12
and parks protesting the increasing influence of far
1:19:15
right parties. It comes as Germany's leading far right
1:19:18
party suffered a narrow defeat in regional elections in one of
1:19:21
its strongholds. Ali Rogen explores the impact of this
1:19:25
increasingly tense political atmosphere.
1:19:29
The catalyst for the protests came from a recent report by the
1:19:31
media outlet correct teeth. It details a meeting between
1:19:35
leaders of the far right AFD or the Alternative for Germany
1:19:38
party and members of a separate extremist movement. In that
1:19:42
meeting, they discussed a plan for re migration involving mass
1:19:46
deportations of immigrants, including some with German
1:19:49
citizenship. The AFD has since distanced itself from the
1:19:52
meeting, but that hasn't slowed the demonstrations. Some
1:19:55
protesters are calling for an outright ban of the AfD which is
1:19:59
seen as As to aligned with Germany's Nazi past. James
1:20:03
Angelos is an editor for Politico based in Berlin. Thank
1:20:06
you so much for being here. Tell us about who the members of the
1:20:09
AfD party are and how much influence do they have in
1:20:12
Germany right now,
1:20:13
the party had been rising in polls leading up to this report
1:20:16
is second right now polling second behind the opposition
1:20:21
conservatives. So right now the party is more popular than any
1:20:26
of the parties that are currently in the German
1:20:28
government are three parties making up the ruling coalition.
1:20:32
And the AfD is more popular than all three of them. So
1:20:35
Adam Curry: I don't know if it's in your other clips here. But
1:20:37
that in this bin unclimbable Because all in German, there's
1:20:42
multiple investigations inquiries, I should say, going
1:20:46
on in in German Parliament against this collective outfit,
1:20:50
who are given money by the left wing parties to build this whole
1:20:55
narrative that the AfD is a bunch of Nazis.
1:20:59
John C Dvorak: You're but you're banking on these clips? Not from
1:21:02
this guy. But yes, and that's obviously what's going on
1:21:05
because this is a populist party. Just like what's going on
1:21:10
everywhere else in the world, because they're getting sick of
1:21:13
these people that are pushing everyone around
1:21:15
Adam Curry: 40% of the world will be voting this year and
1:21:18
big, like they'll all be
1:21:20
John C Dvorak: voting populist. That includes Trump
1:21:27
Adam Curry: builders in the Netherlands. Yeah.
1:21:30
John C Dvorak: And it includes his AFD operation. Yes, who
1:21:34
Adam Curry: are who are clearly affiliated with the Nazi past,
1:21:37
unlike, you know, people getting arrested and not being able to
1:21:41
go to the supermarket during COVID. Remember that? They had
1:21:45
separate ly Oh, you can't pass the fence. You can't get you
1:21:47
can't go to the supermarket, the Dutch. Now you've got curfews
1:21:53
which they hadn't had since World War Two, come on. This did
1:21:59
what this is PBS that's doing this, this PBS unbelievable.
1:22:03
Unknown: And so what is happening politically in Germany
1:22:05
right now that is making them more popular.
1:22:07
There has been a rise again recently of asylum seekers
1:22:11
entering Germany from countries like Syria and Afghanistan, and
1:22:15
they are an anti migration party that's noticed
1:22:18
Adam Curry: the new term asylum seekers, this is what this is
1:22:21
what the term has been in Europe for a long time. We're getting
1:22:23
that here to asylum seekers, their sort
1:22:25
Unknown: of core issue. There are other issues that they're
1:22:28
taking advantage of the moment, energy prices skyrocketed
1:22:32
following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, inflation and economy
1:22:37
right now is sorry,
1:22:39
John C Dvorak: energy prices have only gone up because of
1:22:42
Russia's Ukraine invasion, when in fact, the Green Party's in
1:22:48
the greenies Deutschland managed to turn on all the new coal and
1:22:54
nuclear and
1:22:58
Adam Curry: Putin I thought it was Putin who did that?
1:23:00
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what he just said. Yeah, that's
1:23:03
Adam Curry: what I'm saying was Putin remember when Putin blew
1:23:05
up his own pipeline? Yeah. And
1:23:07
John C Dvorak: Putin blown up his own pie. Yeah, give me a
1:23:09
break with this bullcrap.
1:23:11
Unknown: invasion of Ukraine, inflation, and the economy right
1:23:16
now is not doing well. So there is a general unease in the
1:23:20
population that's also helping the party and they are
1:23:23
particularly strong in the former East Germany, where there
1:23:27
is also more sympathy, perhaps for taking on a friendlier
1:23:31
stance toward Russia. Oh, man.
1:23:33
Adam Curry: All right.
1:23:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, hold on a second to before you raise
1:23:36
anything. Yeah. The East Germans don't like Russians know
1:23:41
Adam Curry: they were locked. Up. So I'm like Jim Psaki. I'm
1:23:49
sure they have a real good team of people at PBS, don't they?
1:23:52
Who can say hold on a second man, you know that that's kind
1:23:55
of odd out of order. What you're saying there that
1:23:57
John C Dvorak: should have been like this guy's being
1:23:59
interviewed is from Politico. So it should have been the hostess.
1:24:02
Yes. Who should on PBS who should have or the what's his
1:24:06
name, the other guy who should have asked the question, wait a
1:24:09
minute, that doesn't make sense that East Germans generally
1:24:12
historically hate the Russians. Now all of a sudden, they're in
1:24:15
love with the Russians. Are you kidding me?
1:24:17
Adam Curry: So two things one, you're bumping your mic a lot.
1:24:20
So something something is on your standard, loose.
1:24:23
Something's loose, too. Now that I'm officially an elder, I think
1:24:27
we just need to rebrand or like, listen, kids were telling you
1:24:31
what to do and what not to do. This really bugged you. Yeah,
1:24:34
did it well, didn't it just No, it was just a realization
1:24:38
John C Dvorak: slap in the face. No, no, it's just the tribe
1:24:41
bucket of water.
1:24:42
Adam Curry: I'm just an old guy. I'm an elder. I'm an elder.
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: You're not that old.
1:24:45
Adam Curry: I'm an elder.
1:24:47
John C Dvorak: Now not an elder.
1:24:51
Adam Curry: I want to be an elder let me be you
1:24:53
John C Dvorak: will be eventually but not till you're
1:24:55
60 Oh, at least. Oh, so we
1:24:57
Adam Curry: have what? seven more months everybody? And
1:25:00
Unknown: of course, the flip side of rising popularity is as
1:25:03
we've been seeing rising opposition and more people
1:25:06
speaking out against them. So why are these protests happening
1:25:09
now? Well,
1:25:10
the catalyst really was this report, and combined with the
1:25:13
fact that the party has been rising in polls, even as it has
1:25:17
grown more extreme. I think this struck a nerve for multiple
1:25:21
reasons. This gathering, people saw echoes of the Nazi past and
1:25:26
some politicians even called it a Nazi Party. These protests are
1:25:30
ongoing, they're large, there's no sign that they're winding
1:25:33
down. And the people who are organizing them see themselves
1:25:37
really standing up for the survival of the Republic against
1:25:41
a very immediate threat.
1:25:46
Adam Curry: Are the Germans really this gullible? Do you
1:25:48
think though, they'll fall for this nonsense?
1:25:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, why not? They fallen for shutting down
1:25:53
the nuclear power plants. I mean, if you go along with that,
1:25:57
you have to be not only gullible, but somewhat stupid.
1:26:01
Yeah.
1:26:02
Adam Curry: Yeah. I'm afraid you're right. Ah, you know, when
1:26:05
Germany when Germany runs into trouble, as they say, in the old
1:26:08
country, when when Germany sneezes, all of Europe gets a
1:26:12
cold. Without Germany, Europe is in big trouble. But you know, of
1:26:19
course, the EU is now limiting cash payments. Yeah, because of
1:26:24
money laundering. There cbdc is coming, they'll everyone will
1:26:27
get UBI they'll be the first ones will will be able to watch
1:26:30
it from here. I'll be fun.
1:26:32
John C Dvorak: Well, as a little aside, even though this is going
1:26:35
to undo a Germany necessarily, and it has a little bit to do
1:26:39
with the Gaza in Ukraine. I have to Claire daily clips.
1:26:46
Adam Curry: Oh, it's always fun to hear from Claire. Our Irish a
1:26:50
firebrand.
1:26:51
John C Dvorak: Let's see, first one, you know, we talked about
1:26:53
the Hungary Hungarian situation and how the EU we went back and
1:26:57
forth, thinking who is you know, blackmailing who when it came to
1:27:01
Hungary going along with the program and allowing Sweden to
1:27:04
join the NATO. And Claire has a take on this, which is kind of
1:27:12
agrees that the two of us both of us, took different sides, but
1:27:16
she kind of does. Same thing about both. I thought this was
1:27:19
good. I
1:27:19
Unknown: abstained on this motion because it's the same old
1:27:22
familiar dance, Hungary blackmails the commission
1:27:25
commission blackmails Hungary, no doubt and cause another
1:27:29
turkey to yell at some stage and the Commission will trade away
1:27:32
Hungarian minority rights and judicial independence, all for a
1:27:36
few billion to backstop what they call their strategic
1:27:39
interests in Ukraine. The rule of law is really just another
1:27:43
weapon in the hands of this so called geopolitical commission
1:27:47
and this type of horse trading of course, there's problems in
1:27:50
Hungary and in many other areas as well. But this type of horse
1:27:54
trading certainly doesn't help poor for the US walrus Alex, the
1:27:59
people who staked their political careers on to tearing
1:28:02
peace in Ukraine, who cares, but reality is catching up with the
1:28:07
United States is rapidly losing interest in the proxy war. It
1:28:11
provoked and maintained just as it always does, Europe will be
1:28:15
left picking up this pieces just like it always is. It's not too
1:28:19
late for Europe to play a constructive role in what comes
1:28:22
next for Ukraine. But as long as frail genocide is held
1:28:26
constructiveness is the last thing we can hold for
1:28:29
Adam Curry: proud genocide. That's better than Queen Ursula,
1:28:32
but I
1:28:33
John C Dvorak: love proud proud genocide.
1:28:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a good one.
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: There is I have another one where she goes off
1:28:40
the rails but she's talking off topic, and they cut her off they
1:28:45
literally kill her mic. So
1:28:47
Unknown: far, the EU and US response to Israeli genocide has
1:28:51
been straight from the abusers handbook Darko deny, attack,
1:28:55
reverse victim an offender. And if that doesn't work, you're
1:28:58
just change the subject. So as the genocide in Gaza continues,
1:29:03
you want to talk about everything. But Gaza, you refuse
1:29:07
to put the item on an agenda and agenda stacked with every cliche
1:29:12
imaginable from Venezuela to Iran with pride of place given
1:29:16
to the old reliable Russian interference. So a conscious
1:29:22
agent seeks to signal branding Palestine protesters as Kremlin
1:29:27
operatives like clockwork, the dark insinuations begin in
1:29:32
Europe, everyone can see what you're doing. It's tedious, it's
1:29:36
predictable. You've been doing it since 2016 isn't going to
1:29:40
work anymore. The mass movement is focused like a laser on
1:29:44
genocide. Everyone knows it's happening. And Europe is
1:29:48
I'm sorry, this is debate with a title and so you should stick to
1:29:54
the issue. Thank you.
1:29:56
Shut up slave.
1:30:00
John C Dvorak: I say didn't cut her off earlier.
1:30:01
Adam Curry: Okay, so I have a couple clips here that fit right
1:30:03
into this. We'll start with with that last bit about the
1:30:07
genocide. Hillary Clinton is still out there speaking. She
1:30:12
was speaking at some event with our ambassador to the United
1:30:15
Nations. What's that lady's name? She looks like Donna
1:30:18
Brazil kind of in a way.
1:30:20
John C Dvorak: She looks like James Brown. Thank you very
1:30:22
much. That's my name. That's right. The people of Libya, the
1:30:29
people the people of Syria, the people
1:30:41
Unknown: free poster. Okay, that's Hillary now. Okay.
1:30:55
Free
1:31:03
Adam Curry: I encouraged Clinton think it's great. I love this.
1:31:09
And I've brought in Libya. Hillary with the Libya thing.
1:31:14
It's a Hillary What's your name? Hillary Daisy, what's her name?
1:31:18
She's putting her middle name.
1:31:20
Unknown: Thank you very much.
1:31:23
That's my name. No, I
1:31:25
Adam Curry: said something not random said something. Wrong
1:31:28
click Donna. It's like this has some other name in there as
1:31:33
another net for some reason I brought it in another middle
1:31:36
name. I'm not sure why. Now going back to Hungary, we have a
1:31:39
development there that is quite interesting,
1:31:42
Unknown: off to 641 days. Katelyn Novak's reign as
1:31:46
president of Hungary came to an end on Saturday. After being
1:31:50
caught up in an unprecedented political scandal. She announced
1:31:54
her resignation in a televised address.
1:31:57
As head of state I'm addressing you for the last time today. I'm
1:32:00
resigning from the Office of the President of the Republic.
1:32:04
The 46 year old had come under mounting pressure to quit after
1:32:08
it emerged that last year, she had issued a pardon to a man
1:32:11
convicted of helping to cover up sexual abuse in a children's
1:32:15
home, a decision that Novak described as a mistake.
1:32:20
By his last April I chose to grant a pardon believing that
1:32:24
the convicted offender had not abused the vulnerability of the
1:32:27
children in his care. I made a mistake.
1:32:31
Novak's decision to quit comes after a week of public outrage,
1:32:35
with 1000 demonstrators rallying outside the president's office
1:32:38
on Friday, demanding her resignation. Novak is a key ally
1:32:43
of Prime Minister Viktor Orban serving as Vice President in the
1:32:46
ruling Fidesz party between 2017 and 2021. becoming the first
1:32:51
woman to be elected president of Hungary in 2022. So
1:32:56
Adam Curry: I'm not quite sure how to interpret this but
1:32:58
because or ban you know, he just he got a lot of a lot of what he
1:33:05
wanted by agreeing to the 50 billion euro package for
1:33:09
Ukraine. I'm thinking she might have been a stooge on the inside
1:33:15
and he wanted her out. So now now he has full power without
1:33:19
unless he replaces her that that whole situation like as she led
1:33:26
a she let a child abuser go and it was a mistake. Yeah.
1:33:31
Something up with something very strange.
1:33:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something's up with Hungary by the way.
1:33:36
Adam Curry: It's Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton there. There's a
1:33:39
reason why they threw in the Diane which I'm not sure why
1:33:43
he's that extra insulting to her. I didn't know that. By the
1:33:46
way. I only knew Hillary Rodham is the Hillary Diane is there's
1:33:49
something I never heard assaulting about that. There's a
1:33:53
reason I'm sure. Anyways, Alinsky is very happy with the
1:33:58
with the package. He's got a big package from from your well,
1:34:03
he's not entirely happy. We need a little more.
1:34:06
Unknown: I'm grateful for your decision on the financial
1:34:09
instrument for for us. For our people for Ukraine, Ukraine
1:34:15
facility with 50 billion euros for a four year period. This is
1:34:20
a clear signal that Ukraine will withstand and that Europe will
1:34:25
withstand. It is also really important that this decision was
1:34:30
taken unanimously by all all of you all 27 Member States and it
1:34:37
is yet another clear sign of your strong unity and support of
1:34:44
Ukraine. Intelligence confirmed that Russia will receive a
1:34:47
million artillery shells from Pyongyang. Meanwhile,
1:34:52
unfortunately,
1:34:53
Adam Curry: Russia is getting missiles from North Korea okay
1:34:56
Unknown: receive a million artillery shells from artillery
1:34:59
shown young Hunger meanwhile, unfortunately I'm the
1:35:02
implementation of the European plan to supply 1 million
1:35:05
artillery shells to Ukraine is being delayed. These two is a
1:35:11
signal of global competition in which Europe cannot afford to
1:35:16
lose. And that's why today your unit is so needed in creating
1:35:21
the Ukraine Assistance Fund within our European peace
1:35:27
facility.
1:35:28
Adam Curry: So he wants to build up the European facility in
1:35:35
Ukraine to build missiles. I mean, shells ammunition Yeah,
1:35:42
John C Dvorak: these are what those shells are you at the
1:35:44
American taxpayer pays for one of those 155 millimeter shells
1:35:48
and let me let
1:35:49
Adam Curry: me guess let me guess what for one, one, I'm
1:35:53
gonna say $30,000.
1:35:55
John C Dvorak: Dollars. No, but it's still not cheap there fuck
1:35:59
between five and $8,000 a shell. And
1:36:05
Adam Curry: 10 Let's just call it 10. So that's well, they're
1:36:09
even
1:36:09
John C Dvorak: more toward the five the eight come later, okay.
1:36:12
But most of them are sold by middlemen and bought in Bulgaria
1:36:17
for 500 bucks apiece.
1:36:20
Adam Curry: We're in the wrong business. Man, that's good.
1:36:26
John C Dvorak: The Bulgarians make a lot of shells and they
1:36:28
sell it for 500 bucks. And we sell them for 5000 to $8,000
1:36:33
apiece.
1:36:34
Adam Curry: Oh goodness.
1:36:35
John C Dvorak: And who are we selling them to? We're selling
1:36:37
them to the American taxpayer? Yes.
1:36:41
Adam Curry: Yes, this is what we do. You talking about? This is
1:36:43
good. This is good. You had a fun little thing in the
1:36:49
newsletter about sunny Austin.
1:36:53
John C Dvorak: Sunny Austin and I its words you get some clips.
1:36:57
Adam Curry: I do have some clips. I have some I'd love to
1:37:00
hear.
1:37:00
John C Dvorak: I mean, the clips are funny. I didn't get any
1:37:02
clips was sunny. Just as a backgrounder sunny Hostin, who
1:37:06
purports to be a black woman. slave descendant turns out to be
1:37:12
the descendant of Spanish. She nudged you look at you. So yeah,
1:37:15
she looks like a dark skinned Spanish woman. She turns out to
1:37:18
be a descendants of Spanish slave holders.
1:37:24
Adam Curry: Well, so a little more background, as we discussed
1:37:28
what Moe said. All of these women just call them black
1:37:33
women, who are all pushed to the front. Dei. Here you go.
1:37:39
President of Harvard, Joy read at MSNBC, Fannie, Fannie Willis,
1:37:46
but also sunny Austin mo called Draw specifically said, now they
1:37:50
have to show that they're that they were the right choice. The
1:37:53
meritocracy part is coming in now. And this is just right on
1:37:57
cue, an amazing takedown of this woman by PBS. Here's a tip. You
1:38:04
should never go on the show finding my roots. This is a dumb
1:38:09
idea. I wouldn't do
1:38:10
Unknown: it Sonny's roots in Agra dia. We're about to connect
1:38:14
her to some painful history. Our researchers discovered that our
1:38:20
third great grandfather for Maine was the son of a merchant
1:38:24
who was likely involved in the slave trade. And for me and
1:38:29
himself, owned at least one human being. What's more, moving
1:38:36
back on this line, we found that it originates in glitziest,
1:38:40
Spain, evidence of Sonny's deeper ancestry and her family's
1:38:47
ties to Spain's colonial past. What's it like to learn this
1:38:53
tangible connection to Spain?
1:38:56
I married a Spaniard Spanish Ovation There you go. Wow. Well,
1:39:03
I'm I'm in a little bit of shock. I just always thought of
1:39:06
myself as Puerto Rican, you know, half Puerto Rican. I
1:39:10
didn't think I was my family was originally from Spain and
1:39:14
slaveholders
1:39:17
feeling my friend
1:39:19
I just like crime. I think it's actually pretty interesting that
1:39:25
my husband and I have shared roots. Yeah. So I do appreciate
1:39:29
that. And I think it's great for our children to know this
1:39:33
information. I guess it's a fact of life. That this is how some
1:39:40
people made their living on the backs of others.
1:39:43
Adam Curry: So a couple of things have no I love the term
1:39:45
owned a human. I love that not a slaveholder owned a human but
1:39:51
we're not done yet. You still gotta mama. We gotta we gotta
1:39:54
pull apart. What's
1:39:56
Unknown: more, Sonny's own DNA testifies to an even greater
1:40:01
connection. Almost a quarter of her admixture is from the
1:40:05
Iberian Peninsula. Oh, no effect that took Sunni by surprise.
1:40:12
I mean, I had no idea of the Spanish roots to this extent.
1:40:18
I'm still sort of shocked about the depth of the ties, I guess.
1:40:24
What do you say? All these white people just came up on the
1:40:26
ground? He hasn't come from somewhere.
1:40:29
I'm surprised. I mean, my mother's family does look white.
1:40:35
So
1:40:35
when you gotta get spanked
1:40:38
just the colonization of other people owning humans. But you
1:40:46
know, I'm I'm surprised that they were in slavers, actually.
1:40:49
Yeah. That's disappointing. And that's a
1:40:52
lot to do. Yeah. Has it changed anything about the way you think
1:40:56
of your mother?
1:40:59
No. My mother certainly identifies as Puerto Rican,
1:41:04
right. And non white actually,
1:41:10
Adam Curry: identifies, identifies as Puerto Ricans hate
1:41:13
Unknown: this for her.
1:41:16
She's gonna see how deeply white
1:41:21
Adam Curry: Oh, no, your mama deeply white? Oh, no. So, of
1:41:26
course, this doesn't make Sonny Halston a slave owner or make
1:41:31
her a bad person. Other than that, she's always been calling
1:41:35
for reparations. And I would say that she seems to have gotten
1:41:39
some nice gigs, a whole production deal based on her
1:41:42
black oriented TV, documentaries and projects. So let's go to the
1:41:47
View. And let's talk it out, shall we? So
1:41:56
Unknown: we're starting a little differently this morning, sonny?
1:41:59
You were just on an episode of finding your roots with Henry.
1:42:07
Yeah, and he gave me some surprising revelations about my
1:42:11
family history. You know, I was really reluctant. I don't know
1:42:14
how you felt when you did it with me. But I was really
1:42:16
reluctant to do it. Because I just sensed that there could be
1:42:22
something in my family set up. History. That would be
1:42:26
disappointing. Disappointing.
1:42:28
Adam Curry: I'm so disappointed in my disappointed I'm
1:42:31
Unknown: white.
1:42:33
Negative. Yes, I
1:42:35
John C Dvorak: am. Oh, shit anymore.
1:42:37
Adam Curry: What did you say? What did you say? I
1:42:41
John C Dvorak: said, I'm so disappointed. I'm white, because
1:42:43
I can't leverage my bullshit anymore. Disappointing.
1:42:49
Unknown: Negative, negative? Yes, I thought I was gonna have
1:42:52
that kind of moment. And skip had asked me to do it for a long
1:42:54
time. And I finally just who
1:42:56
Adam Curry: is skip? And why are you friends with him tighter to
1:43:00
do it?
1:43:00
Unknown: Because I thought it'd be helpful for my children and
1:43:03
my children's children to know what their real history was, you
1:43:05
know, but what I found out was that my mother's family while
1:43:11
they are Puerto Rican, they actually originate from Spain.
1:43:14
And the reason that they moved to Puerto Rico is because the
1:43:17
slave trade had been sort of canceled in Spain and then
1:43:22
Curacao, and then they moved all of their slaves to Puerto Rico.
1:43:26
And so the business the family business, I had been told that
1:43:29
they were printers and journalists, but they were in
1:43:31
fact, in slavers. In
1:43:33
Adam Curry: slavers, not slave owners in slavers have
1:43:38
Unknown: my mother fell over the deeply disappointing point. And
1:43:43
it's deeply disappointing because my mother really
1:43:45
identified as Puerto Rican. She was part of the civil rights
1:43:50
movement. And she was deeply ingrained in black culture and,
1:43:58
and identified herself as black for race. But
1:44:02
Adam Curry: what does she identify as Puerto Rican black?
1:44:05
What was she 70?
1:44:07
Unknown: Hispanic for ethnicity? But her race is white. She's
1:44:11
European. Yeah. I know. It's weird because when you look at
1:44:15
her, my mother is blonde and she has light eyes and my whole
1:44:18
family looks like that.
1:44:19
John C Dvorak: But she can be black.
1:44:21
Adam Curry: The thing is, Okay, so first of all, this identifies
1:44:23
as is Sunni. It's okay. You didn't own humans. You It's
1:44:28
okay. It's okay. Words. Whoopie calls it a bummer
1:44:33
Unknown: slave thing is a bummer. It's about I'm sorry.
1:44:36
Adam Curry: Whoopie. Bae hard hit the bomber
1:44:41
Unknown: I slave thing is
1:44:42
Adam Curry: a bummer. It's a bummer. Your face is a bummer.
1:44:45
And I think enrolling
1:44:48
Unknown: creations by the way, so y'all can stop texting me and
1:44:51
emailing me and saying that I'm a white girl, and that I don't
1:44:53
deserve reparations. That's I still believe
1:44:57
you I don't know who said her. In telling her she was a white
1:45:01
girl. Okay, it's it's it's too much people clean off your
1:45:06
television screen. Yeah, it's six. That's a lot.
1:45:08
So I still believe in reparations. I still believe
1:45:12
this country has a lot to do in terms of racial justice. But
1:45:16
what I will say, Sarah, to your question is that I feel that I'm
1:45:22
enriched by knowing
1:45:24
Adam Curry: that history you want of us girl,
1:45:28
Unknown: I'm enrich. And I'm enriched by knowing that my
1:45:30
family has come so far from being in slavers to my mother
1:45:34
marrying my father. Oh, I
1:45:37
Adam Curry: see. As long as you marry someone black, it's okay.
1:45:41
If your ancestors were a slave holder, I feel enriched and
1:45:45
rich. You're not responsible for the slaves in Oh, you're not
1:45:49
responsible for what they did? She says, Well, I'm what
1:45:52
Unknown: I did. And I was hoping they'd find out was related to
1:45:54
Mussolini or something. Like that came up. My
1:46:00
Adam Curry: word.
1:46:01
John C Dvorak: Can't Rachel Dolezal or whatever name it
1:46:04
comes to mind.
1:46:05
Adam Curry: I mean, can't you just can't you just say, Hey,
1:46:07
okay, it's all right. You know, it's all right. You're not
1:46:11
responsible for for something that happened hundreds of years
1:46:15
ago. You know, but you do have to pay now obviously, sonny, you
1:46:19
got to join in the payments, and you can't take any payments
1:46:23
because you're white deeply or moved to San Francisco. Maybe
1:46:28
you can still get a good deal
1:46:29
Unknown: controversial, Kaylee for two reasons. One people
1:46:32
receiving your tax dollars with no requirement they work and
1:46:36
secondly, should they be getting that money based solely on skin
1:46:39
color. The lawsuit says San Francisco and California
1:46:42
illegally give out millions each year to minorities and trans
1:46:46
women based solely on race and gender identity through these
1:46:50
three programs. The black economic equity project hands
1:46:54
out 500 A month exclusively to young Black Bay Area residents.
1:46:58
The guaranteed income project for trans people that pays 1200
1:47:03
hours a month provided black, indigenous Latino and
1:47:08
transgender right and the abundant birth project gives
1:47:11
$1,000 a month solely to pregnant black and Pacific
1:47:15
Islander women. Each
1:47:16
of these three programs qualifies and disqualifies
1:47:19
individuals from participation and benefits based on their
1:47:23
race. That's what they do.
1:47:26
The birth project defends the age saying black Pacific
1:47:29
Islander women have higher rates of premature birth.
1:47:33
This risk is primarily due to racism, both structural racism
1:47:37
and the racism that birthing people and mothers experience
1:47:41
when they're interacting with physicians and other medical
1:47:43
providers. Still,
1:47:45
critics say it's illegal to exclude white and Latino women,
1:47:48
especially those with higher risk of complication. Now Mayor
1:47:52
London breed supports all three programs, though none require
1:47:55
work example. The $1,200 stipend will be provided to participants
1:48:00
so they may focus on their basic physical and mental health and
1:48:04
wellness without worrying about income according to gift. So all
1:48:08
three programs Kay Lee declined interviews. The Mayor's office
1:48:11
says the programs are legal and they look forward to going to
1:48:14
court. Yeah,
1:48:16
Adam Curry: the answer of course is not to take that money away
1:48:18
but to give it to all people. California UBI incoming Ah,
1:48:26
yeah, we
1:48:27
John C Dvorak: got nothing but money here.
1:48:28
Adam Curry: Yeah, you guys are loaded on the board trains
1:48:31
Unknown: good. Planes bad.
1:48:35
Adam Curry: Oh, such a controversy, controversy. Oh my
1:48:39
goodness, we have to weigh the passengers. Oh, we need weight
1:48:44
and balance. Everybody's all up in arms about fin air. This
1:48:48
morning
1:48:49
Unknown: the Scandinavian airline fin air inviting
1:48:51
passengers to be weighed in along with their carry on
1:48:54
baggage. The airline says the goal is to collect anonymous
1:48:57
data on average weight of passengers with their hand
1:48:59
luggage for the purpose of aircraft balance and performance
1:49:02
calculations that are needed for the safe operation of flights.
1:49:06
So far. 600 passengers have volunteered for the survey,
1:49:09
airlines use an average for male and female and for summer and
1:49:13
for winter. And you need to correct those every now and then
1:49:16
especially if the population has gotten a bit more punchy. It
1:49:19
turns out the airline has been doing this since 2018. And it's
1:49:22
completely voluntary. It's not uncommon for some international
1:49:26
airlines to do wait surveys every few years required by
1:49:29
their governing bodies every five years you figured the
1:49:32
population changes a little bit weight. And that's why these
1:49:35
chests are needed. And Finn air is not alone Air New Zealand
1:49:39
weighed more than 10,000 passengers last June air in New
1:49:42
Zealand calling the survey essential to the safe and
1:49:45
efficient operation of the aircraft and that the pilot
1:49:48
needs to know the weight and balance of a loaded plane before
1:49:51
takeoff. And Korean Air did it in the fall saying collecting
1:49:54
this data was crucial for the safety of flight operations. It
1:49:58
is
1:49:59
Adam Curry: just a survey It's opt in. But of course, you know,
1:50:01
this is just crazy. We can, we can, this is 20 Another
1:50:05
John C Dvorak: way I feel about it go. People should be charged
1:50:13
based on their weight.
1:50:15
Unknown: And again, this is completely voluntary. Nobody has
1:50:17
been forced to step on a scale but when this happened it of
1:50:20
course certainly triggers a lot of good questions, maybe even
1:50:23
some anxiety from a lot of people. But Robin, you had a
1:50:25
good solution, just put the whole plane on a scale.
1:50:31
Volunteer means you're not getting the information that you
1:50:33
need. So when everybody's on board, isn't there some way
1:50:36
technology you can I mean, 2024 we can figure that out. Because
1:50:41
as John said, we're getting punchy.
1:50:48
Adam Curry: Do Yeah, so we put the whole plane on a scale note
1:50:51
the weight and balance is incredibly important. We
1:50:55
understand your your take on it. Now. I'm going to connect this
1:50:58
to another story which is a director of the story, but
1:51:01
weight and balance is very important people.
1:51:04
Unknown: The investigation is just getting started into a
1:51:06
helicopter crash in San Bernardino County that killed
1:51:09
six people. The crash happened around 10 o'clock last night
1:51:12
east of the 15 freeway near hell Lauren springs. The crash site
1:51:16
is known for an abandoned gas station with a sign that says
1:51:20
low gas and eat. It's very close to the California Nevada border
1:51:23
about the 80 miles better effect from Las Vegas. The Eurocopter
1:51:27
EC 120 took off from Palm Springs airport was headed to
1:51:31
Boulder City, Nevada, but it never made it. The CEO of one of
1:51:35
Nigeria's largest banks was on board. Herbert Woodway, was
1:51:40
killed along with his wife and son. Their identities were
1:51:43
confirmed by an official with the World Trade Organization.
1:51:46
The National Transportation Safety Board is on scene to lead
1:51:49
the investigation. One thing to look at is the weather
1:51:52
conditions.
1:51:54
It was reported by witnesses that there was rain with some
1:51:58
wintry mix. We currently have a meteorologist working on our
1:52:03
team and we're working to analyze and get the exact
1:52:07
weather conditions at that time.
1:52:09
The helicopter was not equipped with either a flight data
1:52:12
recorder or a cockpit voice recorder. A preliminary report
1:52:15
on the crash will be released in a couple of weeks. The final
1:52:18
report could take anywhere from 12 to 24 months.
1:52:21
Adam Curry: So the banking CEO was on his way to the Super Bowl
1:52:25
that was or at least that's the report. This is interesting to
1:52:28
me because in 2001 I owned a Eurocopter 120 I know a lot
1:52:33
about it. I've flown it myself. No doesn't it's this is a
1:52:37
relatively it's a single engine turbine helicopter. It's quiet
1:52:42
because as the patented Eurocopter enclosed fin for the
1:52:46
tail rotor does not have a data recorder for flight cockpit
1:52:50
recorder. It actually runs on Windows NT which I never liked
1:52:54
when you start the helicopter. You got to boot screen for NT
1:52:57
3.1. But the second report, which is a report which is I'm
1:53:02
going to presume the reporter got the information from the
1:53:06
from the from the charter company tells me something was
1:53:10
very wrong,
1:53:11
Unknown: I would assume is Reporter Lee and Souter joins us
1:53:13
live from Burbank with the latest on the investigation.
1:53:16
Leanne
1:53:18
Tory that helicopter was operated by Orbitz air base here
1:53:22
at the Burbank airport of pilot as well as the Safety Pilot
1:53:26
we're on board along with four passengers one of them the head
1:53:30
of a major Nigerian
1:53:31
Adam Curry: bank. Okay, this is a five seat helicopter pilot
1:53:36
copilot or she called Safety Pilot and three in the back if
1:53:39
there were four passengers you are overweight so besides flying
1:53:44
in wintry conditions, some somebody did something very
1:53:48
wrong here and I will wait for the NTSB report or maybe they're
1:53:52
just full of crap and they don't know. But it makes and also
1:53:56
Safety Pilot. That's usually when when an owner is flying
1:54:00
himself the whole thing is sketchy or they just wanted to
1:54:03
kill
1:54:04
John C Dvorak: it was sketchy to me is there's a dead banker
1:54:07
Adam Curry: who just wanted to kill a banker as possible
1:54:10
John C Dvorak: as possible. A Nigerian yes a
1:54:13
Adam Curry: day record. Today record is not good. So he has
1:54:17
John C Dvorak: something to do with the Nigerian banking scheme
1:54:19
couldn't be and he is murdered.
1:54:21
Adam Curry: I think I think I got an email from him some
1:54:24
point.
1:54:25
John C Dvorak: I got one too. Funny thing.
1:54:27
Adam Curry: Hey, do you remember that report? Was it your report
1:54:30
about the heads? Like some some outfit where they just had heads
1:54:35
on tables? You remember that?
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: heads on and tables? You're thinking that
1:54:39
Futurama
1:54:41
Adam Curry: No no, no, no, no, there was some report you had we
1:54:43
were laughing I think we even became a show title. It was like
1:54:47
the guy had heads every heads cut baby's heads cut off or
1:54:50
something.
1:54:52
John C Dvorak: Oh snap one of my gruesome reports. Well, then
1:54:55
here's
1:54:55
Unknown: mine. The biological Resource Center was essentially
1:54:58
running a chop shop up for human body parts mixing, matching and
1:55:03
selling them in ways we've never heard of, until tonight
1:55:06
described as unsettling, but it sounds a whole lot worse one FBI
1:55:11
agent revealing what it was really like inside the Phoenix
1:55:14
body donation facility. In 2014. He saw everything from buckets
1:55:19
of heads, arms and legs to coolers filled with severed
1:55:23
penises when the FBI raided the building
1:55:26
confused and angry. We thought this was going to be doing some
1:55:29
good he
1:55:30
even thought it a smaller head sewn onto a larger torso in a
1:55:35
quote Frankenstein manner
1:55:37
he wasn't nutrients we made wasn't a choice the needs of
1:55:40
families made
1:55:41
body parts piled on top of each other inside biological
1:55:44
resources. Were families donated their loved.
1:55:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what was the name of this restaurant
1:55:50
again?
1:55:51
Unknown: In a quote Frankenstein manner,
1:55:53
it wasn't nutrients we made was an interesting use of families
1:55:57
made body
1:55:58
parts piled on top of each other inside biological Resource
1:56:01
Center, where families donated their loved ones for medical
1:56:05
research, discoveries
1:56:06
of sickness and disease, maybe come up with a cure.
1:56:11
Some say the company violated everything they promised tragedy
1:56:15
that's never resolved, and it just keeps going on and deeper
1:56:19
and deeper
1:56:19
dilemmas. According to that agent with no apparent
1:56:22
identification. The company sued months after the FBI raided
1:56:26
families claiming their loved ones weren't treated with
1:56:29
dignity and respect, a promise written on their own consent
1:56:33
forms. The company also accused of selling body parts for profit
1:56:37
after saying they'd only use the parts they needed and would
1:56:40
cremate the ones they didn't and return them a torso with a head
1:56:45
apparently went for 2400 bucks bargain a leg about 1100 Didn't
1:56:50
even sell knees and feet alone for under 500. News everyone.
1:56:58
Adam Curry: Man, what is going on in Phoenix?
1:57:02
John C Dvorak: This is a weird story. I'll give you a clip of
1:57:06
the day for digging that went out. Thank
1:57:08
Adam Curry: you. This one deserves a lot more attention I
1:57:10
think. I want to know who was ordering a body with a smaller
1:57:16
head sewn on. On what is
1:57:20
John C Dvorak: a whole bucket of penises. I think that's a good
1:57:22
one and we're worried
1:57:23
Adam Curry: about Jeffrey Epstein. What's going on in
1:57:25
Phoenix people what is happening? What is going on?
1:57:30
That's just just I think we need to go look at Taylor Swift.
1:57:33
Unknown: We all need to calm down and I'm not talking about
1:57:36
the podcast I'm talking about having Taylor Swift here. Yeah,
1:57:40
Adam Curry: my goodness. Hey, I have a Super Bowl Super Bowl
1:57:43
clip, Super Bowl clip bought a sports ball and then we can talk
1:57:46
about the big games.
1:57:48
Unknown: In a metropolis once known as Sin City. The biggest
1:57:51
sin heading into Sunday evening Super Bowl is not knowing that
1:57:56
this guy number 87 Is the boyfriend of Taylor Swift.
1:58:00
Number 87 has a name Travis Kelce. Star in American football
1:58:04
tournament for the Kansas City Chiefs and a star for answering
1:58:08
repeated questions about his love life.
1:58:10
Why do you think everyone's so fascinated with you too? I think
1:58:15
the values that we stand for and just you know who we are as
1:58:18
people.
1:58:19
Kelsey support extends to Taylor Swift Fans Swifties half a world
1:58:23
away. Tokyo hosted the last of four sold out concerts Saturday
1:58:27
evening.
1:58:29
Adam Curry: Monday we hadn't really watched American football
1:58:32
until now. But because Taylor's boyfriend place finally watched
1:58:36
it.
1:58:37
Unknown: We did the question on so many lips after this last gig
1:58:41
and Tokyo will a private plane get her back in time to as she
1:58:45
has in the past. Join other players girlfriends wives and
1:58:49
family for the game WAGs she should make it and that's good
1:58:52
news even for those who don't count themselves as Swifties
1:58:56
John C Dvorak: she will be in the house in the building for
1:58:58
the Super Bowl but I mean, I love I
1:59:02
Unknown: think her attending will bring in new eyes to the
1:59:04
sport I
1:59:04
think there will be a lot of women who will probably shift
1:59:07
their attention to football
1:59:09
we should all be so lucky that we'd have a significant other
1:59:12
wanted to support us in our job right.
1:59:16
Adam Curry: It would be nice if our families listened to our
1:59:18
show John right. Be honest about it. Yeah,
1:59:22
John C Dvorak: well yeah, sometimes they do.
1:59:24
Adam Curry: So I like I liked that they they brought the WAGs
1:59:28
acronym to America. Although they sit in reverse order, you
1:59:33
know in the UK, it's always WAGs wives and girlfriends. She's now
1:59:37
a WAG I think we should we should perpetuate that mean wag
1:59:46
so yeah, I think NFL benefits there's it's good very very good
1:59:50
progress.
1:59:51
John C Dvorak: It was done as a publicity stunt. Let's face
1:59:52
reality.
1:59:53
Adam Curry: Well, shall we get into the bedding because I've
1:59:56
learned a lot from CBS evening news about proper bets and then
2:00:01
no prop
2:00:01
John C Dvorak: bets only maniacs take dose. If this
2:00:04
Unknown: was the Super Bowl of news stories, I bet anything
2:00:08
that people would bet on anything from how many words
2:00:12
I'll say to whether I'll gesture bar with my left hand or my
2:00:16
right. And when I eventually throw this ball will make dog
2:00:20
catch it. These are called prop bets. And in football, it means
2:00:24
betting on anything other than the final score of the game. How
2:00:28
big is this gotten? It's gotten much, much bigger than than even
2:00:32
the game. Rufus Peabody is a professional better, and co
2:00:36
founder of unabated sports. Why do you think the proliferation
2:00:40
of this? I think because people have shorter attention spans now
2:00:44
than they used to? We want the game to be more like a slot
2:00:46
machine and we do a sporting event. To that end, you can now
2:00:51
bet on how long the national anthem will be. Whether or not
2:00:55
someone will miss an extra point. Will Taylor Swift be
2:00:59
caught on camera wearing a foam finger? Will she wear red
2:01:03
lipstick, or some other color? And my personal favorite when
2:01:07
the game ends? What shade of Gatorade will get dumped on the
2:01:11
winning coach? What color will a Gatorade bath be? Grown men have
2:01:16
actually been debating this all week. Young people like blue
2:01:19
Gatorade,
2:01:20
although orange orange has moved down to plus five hundreds.
2:01:23
And who stands to profit off all this? Aside from the Gatorade
2:01:27
delivery guy? The sports books, they're expecting 68 million
2:01:32
Americans to gamble $23 billion on the Super Bowl this year.
2:01:37
Industry insiders estimate about half that on these crazy side
2:01:41
bets. And so as we near the end of this 273 word news story,
2:01:47
where I have gestured more with my left hand and my right. Let
2:01:51
me ask you one final question. How many of you have been
2:01:54
waiting around just to see if my dog will catch this ball? It's
2:01:59
the same drama within a drama that fuels this Super Bowl
2:02:02
betting frenzy. Shut
2:02:04
Adam Curry: up. So first of all, did you get my check? No, no, I
2:02:10
send you the check sent to the PIO box. You always told me to
2:02:12
send to the PIO box not to the house. Okay,
2:02:14
John C Dvorak: well, eventually you
2:02:16
Adam Curry: should have taken the Bitcoin you would have had
2:02:18
10% more. And
2:02:20
John C Dvorak: then if I kept the Bitcoin another week, it'd
2:02:22
be 10% Less, okay. And it'd be 10% more then it'd be 10% Less.
2:02:27
Okay, that'd be 10% more okay. And then it'd be temporary. I
2:02:30
just rather have the cash. So well, I thank you for that if
2:02:34
you did, and our our classic is part of the degenerate gambler
2:02:40
syndrome. I've known these guys who do this, which
2:02:44
Adam Curry: according to news reports is now mainly in Vegas.
2:02:49
Certainly people over 80 years old. They're all gambling crazy.
2:02:55
Did you know this? No. I
2:02:56
John C Dvorak: didn't hear about the 80 year old
2:02:58
Adam Curry: dad grandma. Apparently grandma is the is the
2:03:02
most frequent better on sports. On the Super Bowl and prop bet
2:03:08
specifically, according to the Guardian, I'll give it then
2:03:12
John C Dvorak: I find this hard to believe. Okay. And then I've
2:03:15
hung out in sports books down there. I don't see any old
2:03:18
ladies. It just doesn't make sense. But the inveterate
2:03:23
degenerate gambler, they are ended this invites, which I
2:03:28
think and I think the two of us kind of agree on this is that
2:03:31
most of these games are rigged.
2:03:33
Adam Curry: Well, so So now we get down to the nitty gritty. Is
2:03:37
this peak Swift? Or is there yet another peak to come? Because I
2:03:43
mean, what what
2:03:44
John C Dvorak: we can eat it? Oh, hold on, what could there be
2:03:45
after this? Well, if they let's say the Chiefs win or lose the
2:03:51
Super Bowl is this make Taylor more or less popular? Depending?
2:03:58
Depending on the outcome of the game?
2:04:03
Adam Curry: I think she, I mean, I'm just looking at the at the
2:04:07
laws of
2:04:08
John C Dvorak: nature. Would it be set up for them to lose? So
2:04:11
today, we're gonna have a sympathetic Oh, poor Taylor. No,
2:04:14
Adam Curry: no, I'm looking at the laws of nature. The laws of
2:04:17
nature dictate if you use the media, which is your assertion
2:04:21
that they are using the media to promote themselves but to
2:04:26
promote the NFL that it's a publicity stunt. The law of
2:04:30
nature requires particularly in America, but also in the UK is
2:04:34
very good at it, that the boomerang comes around and chop
2:04:37
your head off and they and they just excoriated you and they,
2:04:42
they just kick you down into the mud. So of course you can then
2:04:46
be the comeback kid in a few years. See Oda cog.
2:04:50
John C Dvorak: She doesn't need to be a comeback kid.
2:04:53
Adam Curry: She will have if she's, if she's, you know,
2:04:55
bashed into the mud because she distracted Kelsey and he fumbles
2:04:59
the ball. The 40 Niners pick it up I think even mahomes
2:05:02
quarterbacks gonna pick it up he's gonna run it all the way to
2:05:04
the endzone wins the game mahomes
2:05:06
John C Dvorak: is with the chiefs.
2:05:07
Adam Curry: Oh shoot wrong sports team
2:05:12
John C Dvorak: always comes out
2:05:17
Adam Curry: my basic thesis remains Do you think she's going
2:05:20
to be on the quarterback
2:05:22
John C Dvorak: of the other team wouldn't be picking it up would
2:05:24
not be we wouldn't be on the field. I gotta be a defensive.
2:05:28
Adam Curry: We all know I'm not a sports ball guy. But I am
2:05:31
feeling I am feeling of loss for the chiefs. I'm Taylor getting
2:05:35
blamed for it. That's it's just the law of nature. Now, it could
2:05:39
happen that we're not at peak swift yet. And then what?
2:05:42
John C Dvorak: Okay, the every time you say that, I'm going to
2:05:44
ask the same question. How can how if this isn't going to be
2:05:49
peaks with you? What will be I don't see any other opportunity.
2:05:53
This is right now left at the White House. She just finished
2:05:57
the arrows tour. Yes.
2:06:00
Adam Curry: So the White House at the White that's that would
2:06:04
be peaks with cheese when Kelsey
2:06:08
John C Dvorak: Irwin and she goes to the White House with
2:06:10
Kelsey and the rest of the team. Yes.
2:06:13
Adam Curry: And then they take pictures of her in the Oval
2:06:15
Office in the President's chair. Peaks removed. We've got to hit
2:06:22
it eventually. You've got to hit it eventually it nobody stays on
2:06:25
top forever. You
2:06:26
John C Dvorak: just I understand that and I'm in total agreement
2:06:29
with the thesis that people who overdo it with the media get
2:06:33
shot down to those normal chopped down as Yes, always.
2:06:37
Adam Curry: They always do. I don't want it for her but I'm
2:06:40
just calling reality.
2:06:42
John C Dvorak: I think we could want it for it's not a big deal.
2:06:45
Like she just can't afford it like Brittany's latest thing or
2:06:53
she's dancing in a devil's costume on Tik Tok?
2:06:58
Adam Curry: Or Britney man, poor Britney is a wreck. For Britney.
2:07:04
John C Dvorak: I had a friend who was a personal assistant to
2:07:08
Brittany. Really? Yeah, he is a software guy. And he is over gay
2:07:14
now. But he was a personal assistant. He worked for the
2:07:16
Britney group. And he said, that is so bad that the whole thing
2:07:22
is so pathetic that one day, she came up to him and said, I can't
2:07:27
remember his first name. But she said Do you know how I can find
2:07:31
it? Well, how much money is in my bank account? Okay. And he
2:07:37
was taken aback by that thinking holy mackerel, what are they?
2:07:40
They're just keeping her in the dark about everything. Oh,
2:07:42
Adam Curry: there was a question. It wasn't like a
2:07:44
riddle. It was like, Can you Can I? How can I find out?
2:07:49
John C Dvorak: It was a question. How did she doesn't
2:07:50
know how to access her bank
2:07:51
Adam Curry: account? No, no, she but she's been abused. This is
2:07:54
an abused woman.
2:07:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, totally. Very abused.
2:07:57
Adam Curry: This is a very sad story. You ever see her dancing
2:07:59
on her on her Instagram?
2:08:02
John C Dvorak: When he was on the Instagram or Tiktok
2:08:05
recently, and this Delos guy didn't see that? Well. It just
2:08:08
came out. Oh.
2:08:11
Adam Curry: I just showed up in your timeline. No,
2:08:14
John C Dvorak: it showed up. I think it showed up on no agenda.
2:08:16
No. Social you haven't seen the one day I was in? I think I was
2:08:23
in Singapore. Yeah. I was in Singapore. And there were these
2:08:27
pictures of some model all over the there's like a, like a
2:08:34
elevated train or something in the element pole poster, this
2:08:37
huge picture of this gorgeous model. And I said, What Who is
2:08:41
this woman? I've never seen her before. And the guy says to me
2:08:45
is Dr. Mirror and he says oh, that's Britney Spears. I've seen
2:08:49
Britney Spears. It doesn't look anything like Britney Spears.
2:08:52
But it was they had her made up with a really dark eyes and it
2:08:55
was just a spectacular look. And it's just as though this woman
2:09:00
probably had to cash flow for her must have been unbuilt. It
2:09:04
still must be but she's been just totally robbed. Yeah, yeah,
2:09:08
it's a sad story.
2:09:12
Adam Curry: I'm gonna go to before we take our break, I want
2:09:14
to take a quick little trip to what's happening with with
2:09:18
China. So the all the sheriffs were called to Washington DC
2:09:26
earlier this week. And they all came back with a similar report
2:09:30
including our sheriff here in Gillespie County. Remember,
2:09:34
Unknown: I've told you this, and I don't want to be this is not
2:09:36
our sheriff by the way. This is Butler County was a Chicken
2:09:39
Little that says the sky is falling. And nobody believed
2:09:42
him. And I want to tell you that it's going to happen
2:09:46
here. Sheriff Richard Jones believe terrorists are living
2:09:48
among us already. This concern is being raised after he heard
2:09:52
the FBI Director speak to sheriffs from across the country
2:09:55
last week after hearing those remarks. He believes in attack
2:09:58
is coming and he's said some attacks have already started in
2:10:02
the form of cyber attacks. And they're coming after his
2:10:05
department daily. I was
2:10:07
told today, that five times a day China tries to hack our
2:10:11
computer system. Butler County, Ohio, just as county in the of
2:10:16
one of
2:10:17
3300. Immediately upon his return from Washington, DC, the
2:10:20
sheriff started making changes. He's ordering more ammunition
2:10:23
for his officers. And he's also stocked each sheriff's cruiser
2:10:27
with an AR 15. On top of that, he's ramping up the citizen
2:10:31
police academy training sessions. We
2:10:33
want you to be concerned now, you're a fool if you don't
2:10:36
listen to the chatter. And when the federal government says it's
2:10:41
they're here. And it's common. We want to educate them and
2:10:44
we're going to increase our citizens on patrol. And we're
2:10:47
going to be the police.
2:10:48
The sheriff has concerns about hacking, tampering with the
2:10:51
sheriff's office, the board of elections, the power grid, and
2:10:53
cell towers. Don't
2:10:55
have to believe me at all. If you want to. You don't have to
2:10:59
be trained in firearms. When we call you you can go hide in your
2:11:03
basement, build a safe room. Good luck for you. So
2:11:07
John C Dvorak: what guy sounds just like Lindsey Graham.
2:11:10
Adam Curry: So what this is about is on the heels of the of
2:11:14
this speech, which I think actually this is 10 days ago
2:11:19
February 1 Tonight,
2:11:20
Unknown: the FBI Director sounding the alarm about Chinese
2:11:23
efforts to attack American power grids, transportation systems
2:11:27
and communications networks.
2:11:29
John C Dvorak: China's hackers are positioning on American
2:11:32
infrastructure in preparation to wreak havoc and cause real world
2:11:37
harm to American citizens and
2:11:39
Adam Curry: communities. This is a very underreported testimony
2:11:44
Unknown: and Christopher Ray announcing a major takedown of a
2:11:47
Chinese hacking operation on American soil. Dubbed volt
2:11:50
typhoon
2:11:51
John C Dvorak: working with our partners, the FBI ran a court
2:11:54
authorized on network operation to shut down volt typhoon and
2:11:59
the access it enabled steps. China was taking in other words
2:12:05
to find and prepare to destroy or degrade the civilian critical
2:12:10
infrastructure that keeps us safe. And prosperous.
2:12:14
Unknown: Ray and other officials say China poses the world's
2:12:16
greatest cyber threat, and they warned that Americans remain
2:12:20
vulnerable. US cybersecurity chief Jen easterly describing
2:12:24
the devastating impact of a potential massive Chinese cyber
2:12:27
attack telecommunications
2:12:29
going down so people can't use their cell phone. People start
2:12:32
getting sick from polluted water. Trains get derailed air
2:12:36
traffic control system port control systems are
2:12:39
malfunctioning. This is truly and everything everywhere. All
2:12:45
at once scenario.
2:12:46
Easterly said China believes that sort of cyber attack would
2:12:49
crush any American will to defend Taiwan from a Chinese
2:12:53
invasion. In a statement to NBC News a Chinese government
2:12:57
spokesman denied China hacks into foreign networks calling it
2:13:00
irresponsible criticism.
2:13:02
Adam Curry: Okay, what is this about? They're scaring people
2:13:06
probably unnecessarily seems a little odd that they're going to
2:13:10
take down cell phone water plans air traffic control, it's not
2:13:14
like polluted water somehow like it was one switch you throw in
2:13:18
everything goes down and then scaring these Lindsey Graham
2:13:22
Podunk sheriff's into believing that China's hacking your your
2:13:26
very own computer systems of course, five times a day that's
2:13:29
nothing five times a day is nothing we get 50,000 pings from
2:13:35
all over the world every day. Yeah, at least and it's all just
2:13:39
bought remember
2:13:40
John C Dvorak: that program that used to be sold it was like a
2:13:43
shields up kind of a thing and it will use a bit in the corner
2:13:47
would tell you how many people were trying to attack you oh the
2:13:49
pew pew map No, no, not that pew pew Matthews a product on your
2:13:53
own computer. And it was just show a just a laundry list of IP
2:13:58
addresses coming in hitting your machine. And it was just never
2:14:02
ending it was just like one after another after another
2:14:04
after another was like by the end of the day there were at
2:14:07
eight people somebody in the zone alarm is being visited zone
2:14:11
alarm. Yes. Yeah. And it was just constant because that's
2:14:15
what's goes on that's what five times why
2:14:19
Adam Curry: is the FBI why are they doing this? I mean it's
2:14:22
it's week cycle has something to do with Iraq. Okay, six weeks
2:14:25
cycle and then you know, they they got volts typhoon
2:14:29
John C Dvorak: G's, whatever that is. And
2:14:31
Adam Curry: maybe it's to beef up military industrial complex
2:14:35
purchasing for the Taiwan invasion or whatever. I mean, I
2:14:38
don't like it.
2:14:39
John C Dvorak: Now the whole thing if I had never even heard
2:14:41
that this was news to me. So they're doing a shit job.
2:14:44
Adam Curry: That's what I'm saying this well, this. I think
2:14:46
that's why they pulled all the sheriffs in because this was
2:14:49
February 1, when we I didn't play this report at the time but
2:14:52
we had it as NBC Nightly News. So because they
2:14:56
John C Dvorak: can't get enough people worked up about it
2:14:57
because I think I think there's enough computer literate people
2:15:01
that just soon as you say the Chinese are trying to attack us
2:15:04
five times a day. You have to roll your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. So
2:15:10
if they're going to try to attack us, it's going to be
2:15:13
10,000 times an hour.
2:15:15
Adam Curry: What people really should do is just never watch
2:15:18
any news at all. Listen to us. Twice a week. Just listen to us
2:15:22
once a week. You'll get all the news, you'll find out what's
2:15:26
going on. Is true by People magazine curl up with a glass of
2:15:31
Chardonnay, by the way people magazine it's like it's only 10
2:15:34
pages. Have you seen this thing in the supermarket? No, I
2:15:38
haven't. Oh, it used to be the Bible. And now it's just a
2:15:42
little thing little thin. It looks like 10 Maybe 20 pages top
2:15:48
and it's always got a celebrity with cancer on the front Wow,
2:15:53
it's really bad is bad No, I mean, people editor don't worry
2:15:58
about it. This is all just meant to spin you up and you know
2:16:01
what? I'm saying this is an elder so so here you go again,
2:16:06
so you can rest you
2:16:08
John C Dvorak: can write an elder that's it. Showtime the
2:16:10
elder There you go.
2:16:11
Adam Curry: Here's something we should be worried about. This
2:16:13
Unknown: is how Hong Kong rings in the Year of the Dragon 1000s
2:16:18
of people flocked to this famous temple to offer their first
2:16:21
incense at the altar at midnight to mark the very beginning.
2:16:25
Lunar New Year,
2:16:27
Adam Curry: it's Lunar New Year, John. That's how it started last
2:16:29
time as a traditional
2:16:31
Unknown: ritual worshipers believe that the earlier they
2:16:34
make their offerings, the better luck they will have in the year
2:16:37
ahead. So
2:16:38
Adam Curry: everyone's traveling around China traveling around
2:16:41
the world going to Italy. Remember that was wasn't
2:16:44
everything wasn't the spread of COVID being blamed on the Lunar
2:16:48
New Year traffic? No, they cut it off. Or they did cut it off.
2:16:54
Well, how come they let them go this time? Because they
2:16:56
John C Dvorak: did Chinese have this tradition of taken off and
2:17:00
lunar near New Year. They're just like the number of travel
2:17:03
miles they run through is unbelievable. Well, I have one
2:17:10
hope that door plugs? Yes. Okay. Besides the meta AI,
2:17:17
Adam Curry: I want to I want you to do the right
2:17:18
John C Dvorak: let's play this is meta versus AI versus PBS
2:17:21
earlier this
2:17:22
Unknown: week as the 2024 election campaigns picked up
2:17:25
steam. Mehta announced it would start labeling AI generated
2:17:29
images that appear on Facebook, Instagram and threads to help
2:17:33
users better judge what they're seeing. In December, an advocacy
2:17:36
group called Free Press said meta YouTube and X have rolled
2:17:41
back a total of 17 policies intended to protect against hate
2:17:45
speech and misinformation. Oh,
2:17:47
Adam Curry: so they finally have AI that can identify AI.
2:17:51
John C Dvorak: Well, hold on. First of all, how does this this
2:17:54
is this whole beginning of this whole premise for this report is
2:17:56
a non sequitur. Yeah, he's talking about meta at helping
2:18:01
the public by identifying AI images on the on its site, and
2:18:05
then it switches so they're not doing anything.
2:18:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, the stock will be 800. Before you know it.
2:18:15
Unknown: The group also said layoffs. If the three companies
2:18:17
make it harder to enforce the safeguards that remain, oh, we
2:18:21
need some government money. Katie Harbeth is the chief
2:18:24
global affairs officer at duco, which is a technology consulting
2:18:27
firm. She's also a former public policy director at Facebook.
2:18:32
Katie, this announcement from Mehta how big a deal is that?
2:18:35
How helpful is this going to be? And is it enough?
2:18:40
So I think that this is just one of many important steps that all
2:18:45
have to take when thinking about safeguarding elections, not only
2:18:48
here in the United States, but around the globe. And so we are
2:18:52
facing new challenges with AI as well as existing challenges that
2:18:56
have been around for a long time, such as missing
2:18:59
disinformation, foreign interference, transparency
2:19:02
around political ads. And I think one of the challenges as
2:19:05
we go into this cycle, is that that question of whether or not
2:19:08
these platforms are prepared is we just don't know because they
2:19:12
are also putting in a lot of investment. They're making a lot
2:19:14
of changes, as you mentioned, but we also don't know the
2:19:18
twists and turns that await for us over the course of this next
2:19:21
year. And so the real question, the real proof of this will be
2:19:24