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John C Dvorak: You're talking to
me about this EPA that's
supposed to be clamping down on
everything and it's causing a
bit of regulatory problems for
the small farmers of the world.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: You're at 2020. For
the show award winning
accumulation media
assassination, Episode 1635.
This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: renewing your mind
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six.
In the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and I'm from
Northern Silicon Valley, where
we're all being pounded by
climate change. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: You being pounded,
pounded by climate change what's
going on? Yeah, I've
John C Dvorak: been pounded with
rain last night. It's windy now.
It's gonna rain about there. But
when the show ends, it's gonna
start raining again, as you have
and you know, this is a big,
this is a big deal, because I
Adam Curry: can hear I can hear
the branches against your window
again. Yeah, that's annoying,
very annoying that it happens.
John C Dvorak: If it's annoying
to you, you can imagine what I
think yes. Meanwhile, of course,
I'm not black, so I don't really
have the full impact.
Adam Curry: Do I do have that
clip?
John C Dvorak: Of course I do.
Good. Blacks.
Adam Curry: This was quite
unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: Rachel Levine by
the way,
Adam Curry: this is a this is a
dude pretending to be a woman in
an army skirt. Hello,
Unknown: I'm Admiral Rachel
Levine. This black history month
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Adam Curry: Hey, Mo Hey, MO You
okay, just go check out MO You
know, because the climate change
might be hurting my buddy. Oh,
yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, black
family that lives down the hill,
and it's raining on them right
now.
Adam Curry: It's not raining on
you only on them? Yeah, it's
weird. Well, if you thought that
was weird, how's your money
doing? Because your money
changed with this climate change
has something happened your
financials.
John C Dvorak: Probably, here's
Adam Curry: a dude in a dress.
Tonight. I'm sorry. I set it up
so perfectly. Here's the dude in
a dress in Europe,
Unknown: floods, droughts and
wildfires last year, with just a
preview of what is to come. But
hotter climate and nature loss
are changing our economy and our
financial system. At the ECB, we
must understand this change to
ensure financial stability and
to fulfill our price stability
mandate. With our new climate
and nature plan, we focus on the
following three things. First,
the green transition. Second,
the growing physical impact of
climate change. And third, the
risks from nature loss and
degradation. We will study the
impact on the economy and the
financial system. This will help
us improve our own models. We
will also work to reduce our
carbon footprint in everything
we do. From banknotes to how we
supervise banks climate
Adam Curry: changes is blowing
the banknotes away cbdc Incoming
Europe ready for it. This is so
absurd. And it seems like it's
putting dudes in dresses. That
seems to be the worst thing
going on here. That's
John C Dvorak: very strange, is
it's very strange. I
Adam Curry: mean, it's so I mean
ice Of course, everyone saw the
video of Admiral Admiral living
What's your name?
John C Dvorak: Admiral Levine,
Adam Curry: roll Levine. And
each I mean, I don't know, my
brain still can't get used to
it. I'm sorry. And then what's
coming out of this person's
mouth is just what are you
talking about?
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
series of clips if you want to
start with since we're on
climate change. Well, I
Adam Curry: need to say
something important. First of
all, just so everybody knows.
You've probably seen the video
yesterday. deed. We are actually
two Golden Retrievers podcasting
from a snowy mountaintop. I just
want everyone to understand
that's us.
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
this video. Oh,
Adam Curry: you didn't hear
about Surah Surah Surah from
open AI it's chain. The movie
business will be bankrupt in
five years. Oh, you just type in
a prompt and it does a video.
Whoa. So there's like three
examples. You've seen it? Comic
Strip bloggers all over. Dude
with red wool knit hat is space
helmet. You haven't seen that
either. What do you do in
between shows? I'm not dealing
John C Dvorak: with AI. I'm
getting clips like this series
of clips about the first time
PBS on a Saturday of course,
decides to finally do a wrap of
the farmers protests. Oh, the
ones in Europe. You're kidding
me? All about? Yes. Oh, yeah.
No, it's all about it's all
about climate change. And here
we go. With the farm rap one buy
it fields
Unknown: to busy city streets.
farmers around the world have
launched protests in recent
weeks. They're demanding relief
from what they say is a crisis.
Ali Rogen reports on what's
driving these protests and what
it means for food supply and
climate policy.
They come in convoys of
tractors. Armed with the fruits,
bread, and even the livestock of
their labor. From Italy, to
India, farmers are taking to the
streets sometimes facing
violence, sometimes causing it
protesting policies, they say
kill their livelihoods. We're
gonna go do that. Every culture
has been on its knees for a long
time, we have reached the end of
our rope. In fact, farmers in
dozens of countries on six
continents have been staging
protests since 2021. This year,
most protests have been in
European countries and India.
The grievances vary by country.
But there's one common message
farmers can no longer bear the
burden of economic and climate
policies.
There is a sense of a rupture in
the social contract between
farmers and their governments.
Adam Curry: Oh, at least there
are that's a pretty honest
assessment, the climate policy
that was Yeah, okay. I'll take
that from PBS. Way to go PBS.
Three more clips. I'm sure they
can screw it up somewhere.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's a
little guy. There's a funny
little thing in there that I
thought was interesting. I don't
know if you'll catch it when it
goes by because I didn't catch
it till the second time. But
you'll it's cool that coincides
with a lot of these protests
too. Let's go with part two.
Danielle
Unknown: Resnick is a senior
research fellow at the
International Food Policy
Research Institute.
In the EU, it's a sense that
farmers are being forced to
unfairly bear the burden of a
lot of the EU regulations to
meet climate emission targets in
India. There's a sense that
farmers are are overburdened.
They're worried about various
shocks including climate shocks,
and they want some type of
social protection. In
Europe. Those regulations
include limits on pesticides and
the amount of land they can
harvest annually. Farmers
they're also worried about
competition from abroad and
Ukraine, which has temporary
tariff free access to EU markets
stop suppose Ukraine then stop
grain from Ukraine. Stop the
Green Deal you're granting about
our land.
In India, farmers want Prime
Minister Narendra Modi to expand
a long standing policy of
setting minimum prices for
certain crops. In 2021, Modi
tried but failed to scrap the
policy following an earlier
round of protests. Farmers have
been marching from the north
where the protests began to the
capital, but police and soldiers
have blocked their way.
Adam Curry: Hamada delete, what
are we doing? We go to Delhi or
not.
Unknown: You have not come here
to clashed with our soldiers.
We just want our demands met for
a law regarding the
implementation as a minimum
support price. Experts say the
protests are politically timed.
Both the Indian and European
Parliament elections are set for
this spring.
I think farmers unions are being
politically savvy in some ways
and trying to get their their
issues on the top of the
political agenda. Even though we
think of them as kind of small
scale farmers. They are pretty
politically powerful. I
Adam Curry: don't like that they
pivot to India, all of a sudden,
it's annoying.
John C Dvorak: Well, India has
fairly similar protests, but
their protests are based on the
different Yeah, they there's
this based on the fact that they
Modi has decided to because he's
thinks of himself as a
capitalist to pull the rug out
from under the price fixing.
Yeah, which has been a tradition
there. And so that's
Adam Curry: the same set not the
same as climate policies, where
you can't have as many cows and
you can't use fertilizer. I like
the you grain as a brand by the
way y o u GRAINN. U grain
John C Dvorak: like the dam is a
brand Yeah, but I think no no
grain from Ukraine has an
interesting little problem
they've got there too and yeah,
it's a good slow because the
Ukrainians would which is a huge
producer of agricultural
products. They're traditionally
shipped the grain that they make
to Africa. Yes, screw those
because of the blockades and
whatever the Russians are almost
behind the whole thing, of
course. It's fascinating.
Anyways, next clip, and
Unknown: ahead of the votes
leader seem to be listening to
the farmers, France scrapped a
plan to end tax breaks for
tractor diesel, and the EU
abandoned a plan to reduce
pesticide use, and postponed a
deadline for farmers to leave
some land fallow to improve
biodiversity. Tyler also emitted
farmers from recommendations
fallow fallow
John C Dvorak: delivered to rot
Oh, it
Unknown: also emitted farmers
from a recommendation to reduce
greenhouse gases by 90%. By
2040. Farmers
need a worthwhile business case.
For nature enhancing measures,
perhaps we have not made that
case convincingly
Adam Curry: nature enhancing but
Unknown: many stakeholders like
some European moderates and
environmentalists believe
politicians are caving to
farmers to prevent them from
deepening alliances from farming
their death, not their cause.
And they know that agriculture
is a major driver of climate
change, accounting for more than
10% of the EU's total greenhouse
gases.
I think an attack of the green
agenda is seen as really an
opportunity for right wing party
Oh, there it is seen more seats
in the parliament at the expense
rectly parties. They see this as
an opportunity to really
mobilize on grievances to
perhaps for with their own
agenda around migration policies
and other types of nativist ways
that would resonate with some of
EU farmers concerns.
Adam Curry: These people are
going to be so hungry, because
you know, the summer of pork is
coming lady the summer of
Chinese poor looking.
John C Dvorak: You're looking
for the PVS screw up and go that
was Yeah, no kidding.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, right.
It's right. Weighing Yes. Okay.
We are
John C Dvorak: starving to
death. It's right wing
conspiracy. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Again, there's us
people starving, you know, to
promote migration. Okay, I got
it. I got it. I think there's
one.
Unknown: But some experts say
leaders must find ways to make
the transition less burdensome
for farmers and the entire
system. They represent most
of the world's followed by small
farms, family farms, and they're
the ones who don't have the
depth of financial depth and the
resources to really shoulder
this burden in the way that
they're being asked to. They are
being asked to adjust to
environmental regulations in a
fast period of time.
Chris Hagen Dorn is a professor
of global food politics at coos
po in Paris. This is where
governments can step in and
start spending money differently
to address the costs not only to
these farmers, but the cost that
we're seeing from environmental
damage, climate change,
temperature increases, violent
weather increases. After
all, as the protesters sign say,
without farmers there is no
food. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, that's right.
That's right. Without farmers
there is no food but that just
is just lip service. I don't
care. Care when they get to get
their food more of pork. Well,
this kind of goes along with
this breaking story, which we
still have to figure out. Who is
this a hit job on other than
General Mills this morning.
Unknown: A first of its kind
study has discovered a little
known pesticide is present in
some common breakfast foods
are quite itself as a chemical
can be harmful if you're exposed
to a large amount of it.
A nonprofit called the
Environmental Working Group
studied quorum aquat. In the US,
the chemical is only allowed on
ornamental plants, but the EPA
allows it to be used on imported
oats and other food. The study
found 90% of food items tested
contained Cormac watt, including
Quaker Oats and Cheerios, and
most Americans in a small group
tested positive for it. Obvious
research on animals found the
chemical can damage reproductive
systems and disrupt fetal growth
that
gives us concern for how this
chemical might also
it's important to note it's not
yet known how they affect
humans, and doctors say with its
relatively small sample size,
this study should not cause any
panic. So we
do need to take this with a big
asterisk that it's not
necessarily generalizable to a
large population, and we don't
yet know what the implications
are for humans.
So what's the takeaway? Doctors
say there's no need to
drastically change your eating
habits or to strictly buy
organic
organic foods by definition
don't contain pesticides, but I
don't want People out there to
think that organic necessarily
always means healthier and they
have to do that or they're doing
a disservice to their family.
This guy should lay off the soy,
you can still find nutritious
foods that are not organic. It's
just about knowing exactly what
you're eating and making an
individualized empowered choice.
The group that conducted the
study is asking the government
to mandate more testing.
Meanwhile, the food companies
have insisted their products
meet all regulatory
requirements.
Adam Curry: Now, this quorum
aquat.
John C Dvorak: Look what I mean.
They also work with a chemical.
Yeah, here we
Adam Curry: go. No, I just want
to love you. You got
John C Dvorak: Chevron oil
refinery, they there was a
product they made called
paraquat is used I think
paraquat was used. I don't can't
remember the details, but I
think it was used everywhere.
It's a fungus site.
Adam Curry: Welcome to quiet
talk. Maybe ladies and
gentlemen. This has
John C Dvorak: to be some sort
of derivative of that. And it
has to be some sort of a fungus.
I'm guessing it's a fungus site
of some sort. I have I have a
fun guy from getting on the
oats.
Adam Curry: I have a follow up
clip that kind of explains what
it is. Don't you want to listen
to that?
Unknown: Yes, I would like he is
research on pesticides has
always been about letting people
know
Adam Curry: this is produced has
got music. It's annoying. That
means something's up that I
personally think it's just to
get us to use cricket flour, but
we'll say ew G is
Unknown: research on pesticides
has always been about letting
people know what they can be
exposed to through the foods
that they're eating. When
I first heard my colleagues tell
me they found a former clot in
the foods that they had tested,
I said what's Chloroquine?
Chloroquine is a new chemical in
the US food supply. It is used
primarily on green crops like
oats and we once we learn that
the EPA had essentially started
allowing Chloroquine on oat
based products that were being
imported into the US we decided
to test them and
Adam Curry: then they go on and
on. This is produced It's a hit
piece for some reason, but it's
a new chemical. It's probably
what the what the chemtrails are
full Have you what else? What
else is supposed to be used for?
Was it for fancy plants? For
decorative plants? Not on your
food? But they specifically call
out Quaker Oats and Cheerios,
which I think are both General
Mills products.
John C Dvorak: Yes.
Adam Curry: There's something up
with that. Well, I don't like
John C Dvorak: I still would
like to know what the clip right
overs on there. But they clipped
in tell me what the what is for.
And
Unknown: we tested those
products. We found Chloroquine
in over 90% of those samples.
That was samples like cereals,
breakfast bars, snack bars,
really common foods that people
are eating every day, meet
others us toxicologists looked
at the chemistry of this
particular chemical and were
alarmed.
Chloroquine causes really
concerning health effects and
animal studies. It harms the
reproductive system, and it can
disrupt fetal flow. That gives
us concern for how this chemical
might also impact human health.
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe this is
why we're not making baby again.
Yeah, I know. I
Unknown: know. Once we knew it
was really important.
Adam Curry: This was from
John C Dvorak: the Chloroquine
what when, where, why, what is
it used for?
Adam Curry: She said it in the
beginning.
Unknown: EWTN is research on
pesticides has always been about
letting people know what they
can be.
Found corm o'clock in the
morning
Adam Curry: somewhere it's set
at home.
Unknown: And in the food supply.
The next question was our study
is published and tested the
urine of about to find a little
bit of Chloroquine.
Adam Curry: Chloroquine is used
to kill people, if that's
obvious. There's no other reason
for it. We can have up
John C Dvorak: for mcquoddy,
that's a core my quiet Yeah,
Adam Curry: with a que chlor
Makau? Yes
John C Dvorak: ch QA team
Adam Curry: is an organic
compound that is used as a plant
growth regulator. Oh, it's
hormone it's a hormone blocker.
It's typically sold as the
chloride salt chloride aquat
chloride, a colorless hydro
scopic Crystaline substance that
is soluble in water and ethanol.
It is an alkylating agent and a
quaternary ammonium salt. So it
can cause stem thickening
reduced stem height additional
root development plants dwarfing
this this doesn't sound good.
When
John C Dvorak: did they use it?
Again I'm asking what would
whether they use it they using
it to a plant growth regulator
stronger here
Adam Curry: it is. In the United
States core mcquoddy is
classified as a low risk plant
growth regulator and is
registered for use on ornamental
plants grown in greenhouses
nurseries and shade houses. It
is not approved it says here in
the Wikipedia for use on crops
intended for animal or human
consumption. Hmm Oh wait. In
April 2023, the Biden
administration's EPA proposed
allowing the use of the chemical
for the first time. You're
John C Dvorak: talking to me
about the this EPA that's
supposed to be clamping down on
everything and it's causing a
bit of regulatory problems for
the small farmers of the world.
Correct. They let this slide.
Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: I think this is not
just letting it slide. This is
intentional. A human side. This
is genocide. This genocide Joe
at work. Genocide, Joe? Yeah,
he's trying to kill us. This
doesn't sound good. Why would?
Why would you even want this? I
mean, it just makes your stem
thick.
John C Dvorak: Well, for wheat,
where me guessing is blowing
over because of the wind of the
climate change.
Adam Curry: Oh, in 2018, the
Trump administration EPA loosens
regulations to allow the
importation of foods from
countries that permit core aquat
to be used on food crops. And in
2020, that allowable amount was
increased. Isn't that nice?
John C Dvorak: Way, man, you're
telling me where's this food
coming? resists come to China,
China. The EU is all uptight
about using anything like this.
This can't be EU policy. No,
Adam Curry: no, I don't think
so. I don't want to see if
there's any Africa,
John C Dvorak: South America,
Mexico. I don't know. We're
getting closer, but
Adam Curry: I don't see why they
need to use it at all. It
doesn't seem like it doesn't
make
John C Dvorak: sense. It can
lead you to have some very
specific reasons. It's got to be
a delivery can
Adam Curry: cause stem
thickening reduced stem height
additional root development
plant dwarfing and increase
chloro chlorophyll concentration
John C Dvorak: and your zero 30
State University.
Adam Curry: This is bad. This is
bad. You shouldn't be eating
that stuff. Anyway. Cheerios.
Cheerios don't eat Cheerios give
your kid some bacon and eggs.
Cheerios with some sugar hmm,
gets started off right all
jacked for school. Do you find
anything or can we move
John C Dvorak: on? No, I'm not
gonna I don't have time to read
through this whole paper but you
Oregon State's done a whole
thing on it the effects of plant
growth regulator Clora clerk
clerk chloroform a quorum aquat.
chlor. Chloride only doesn't
even
Adam Curry: has a gasoline name.
That's that's not great
branding. We call it Boston.
Chloride aquat.
John C Dvorak: Get turned over
the Big Pharma they'll come a
Meeting adjourned.
Adam Curry: All right, I'm gonna
move on because blogger died
suddenly big news.
Unknown: Blogger and lawyer
turned opposition politician and
anti corruption campaigner.
Alexei Navalny was a menace for
the Kremlin who is not afraid to
call President Putin out
directly. a retrial in 2017
prevented him from running for
office, this time for presidents
against Vladimir Putin. That
same year, he was attacked with
a green antiseptic fluid that
caused him damage in the vision
of his right eye and temporarily
dyed his skin green. In August
2020
Adam Curry: better best net pop
ever let's do that when
Unknown: green August 2020, on a
flight from Tomsk to Moscow, the
valley fell seriously ill and
emergency diversion by the
plains pilot appears to have
saved his life. Amid an
international outcry, he was
allowed to fly for treatments to
Germany, where it was discovered
he had been poisoned with
novichok chemical nerve agents,
but an assassination attempt and
a medically induced coma didn't
determine the value from taking
his fight to a higher level who
comes down to him. Whilst
recovering in Germany. He
conducted a sting operation
against an FSB agent, convincing
the operative to detail in a
phone call how the novichok was
used against him that was then
broadcast on his YouTube
channel. Shortly after, he
released a video offering
Russians and look at what his
team called Putin's Palace, a
mansion by the Black Sea, which
is estimated to be worth more
than a billion dollars.
President Putin denied the
palace belongs to him or his
family members. On January 2021,
the valley returned to Moscow
after receiving life saving
treatment in Germany. He was
immediately arrested for
violating probation terms
imposed from a 2014 case sent to
a penal colony where he went on
hunger strike.
Adam Curry: Okay, now we both
have clips on this. The beauty
of This particular event of
course, if the guy is really
dead there's still no actual
confirmation from the family as
of Showtime that is, in fact I
have the clip for that. You just
won't let me go okay,
John C Dvorak: which clip is it?
You're gonna go where not which
Adam Curry: clip you go, we'll
play it
John C Dvorak: well good
question
Adam Curry: Okay, well you're
looking that up so we still
don't actually know that has
happened but there's a few
things that have started first
of all, we've gone from died
suddenly to drop dead suddenly.
Now we don't want to confuse the
people out there. So the M five
M has decided instead of using
the died suddenly which has been
in the news for three years,
people so and so died suddenly
died suddenly, none of us with
him, it's dropped dead suddenly.
John C Dvorak: That well, you
that died suddenly refers to
vaxis. Well, and of course,
Adam Curry: the since he looks
so great, just a couple of days
ago when he was doing some legal
thing, which no one can explain
either our show and he was
walking outside, he went for a
stroll in this horrible penal
colony, which looks like a
quaint little kind of Swiss
chalet village. At least that's
what they're showing on the on
the news. So in this penal
colony, you can just walk around
John C Dvorak: the Vani PBS
clip, okay,
Unknown: there we go. Now that
the mother of Russian opposition
leader Alexei Navalny has been
formally notified of her son's
death, she's pressing for
details of how the 47 year old
died in a remote penal colony in
the Arctic in hopes of seeing
her son's body Liudmyla novel
Nya and the volleys lawyer went
to the morgue where she was told
he had been taken. But once they
got there, the facility was
closed. She wants his remains
handed over for Barry Okay.
Russia says that won't happen
until its investigation is over.
There's no official cause of
death. No volleys lawyer says he
was murdered. In Moscow. Navalny
supporters risked arrest to lay
flowers at a memorial to him and
a monument for victims of Soviet
era purges since ordered to
volleys death. Russian police
have arrested more than 300
people across the country. Now I
want to
Adam Curry: play a couple of
clips first we'll start with the
BBC. They always give us a fair
and balanced account. Because
what are the chances? Isn't it
amazing? This happens right on
day two of the Munich Security
Conference.
Unknown: Oh, the mood was
absolutely electric. The news.
Never
Adam Curry: lose this. By the
way. This Munich Security
Conference is like the Oscars
for war guys and gals. That I
mean, they're there. They're all
in their uniforms. They're in
their Smithies, they got the
limos they got the lights. The
mood was electrifying. Oh, the
mood on the red carpet.
Unknown: Absolutely electric the
news that Navalny was dead, just
shocked, like a bolt of
electricity through the Munich
Security Conference. Just at
that moment in the morning where
the limousines were arriving.
There was a hubbub at the Grand
Hotel where the conference takes
place was filling up with
defense chiefs, top diplomats,
presidents, and hookers. I'm
indices kings, many of them old
friends. And then all of a
sudden this came out of the
blue, blue. So many were
reading. If they know Nepal knew
they knew these are
Adam Curry: people who send kids
to war. They weren't reeling.
They weren't really
John C Dvorak: swoon. Oh my god,
hold me before I pass out
Unknown: in the comments of
Radek Sikorski, many leaders had
come to this conference already
deeply worried about Russia's
full scale invasion of Ukraine,
worrying about Ukraine war and
the need to keep supporting
Ukrainian forces worry too,
about the Gaza war. There were
many dark clouds and then
suddenly, this one came and
blotted out everything else.
Adam Curry: There were many dark
clouds on the red carpet at the
Grand Hotel of the Munich
Security Conference, but this
one came out and there was no
sunshine available,
Unknown: but to a person whether
it was Jens Stoltenberg, the
NATO Secretary General saying
Russia has a lot of questions to
answer. We went to see Lord
Cameron, the British Foreign
Secretary, blaming Vladimir
Putin personally, but the moment
which will go down in history
Oh, which stunned the hall when
Yulia navall Nee was known. She
was at the conference somewhere
when asked Where was she? What
Adam Curry: a coincidence, his
wife is there at the conference.
I mean, of course, if you have a
blogger who's in a penal colony,
you want to have her at a war
conference that makes
John C Dvorak: what she was
scrounging around at the by the
up in the in the Urals, or
wherever they held Siberia, they
trying to get into the mortuary
How'd she get over the
conference so quick, she was
Adam Curry: in the, in the
speaker suite. And
Unknown: Yulia Novotny was an
own she was at the conference
somewhere. And when asked Where
was she, we saw his wife through
the main door. And onto the not
just the stage but a world
stage. So calm, so composed at a
million of the greatest please
Adam Curry: don't say that up
now. There's also an up so I
what I love about the Munich
Security Conference, everybody's
there. Everybody's got something
to say. So I have two, two
clips. The first one is from
former US commander Ben Hodges.
And he kind of lays it all out.
Unknown: What was the first
thought that crossed your mind
when you heard by the way, he's
Adam Curry: like, This is dumb
German television. I don't have
to be careful what I say it's
not like some podcasters in
America are gonna pick it up
today
Unknown: about the wellness
deaths. Thought about his
wife. He has a family. And I was
reminded that authoritarians are
scared of their own people.
That's why they lock up
protesters opponents.
Adam Curry: You mean like
January 6,
Unknown: and still the timing is
suspicious that the news broke
out.
Adam Curry: Still the timing is
suspicious. This is the Deutsche
Avella lady. It's suspicious
that this happened during the
Munich Security Conference.
Don't you think man
Unknown: suspicious that the
news broke today, shortly before
the start of the security
conference here in Munich? Is
that Putin sending a message?
Of course, I don't know. The I
haven't seen the autopsy yet.
And we don't know all the facts
of his death. My assumption was,
of course, this is a result of
the poisoning that happened one
or two years ago when he took
the Pfizer vaccine, the
treatment, terrible treatment
and conditions in which he has
been living. So what contributed
to his death? I don't think it
was like, today he was killed. I
think today he died from
treatment, or terrible treatment
and poisoning. And today is when
it happened. I don't know that
it was the timing was planned
that way.
Adam Curry: Wrong answer. Wrong
answer. General. Get out of
here. You're no good. Let's go
to Bill Browder. No one hates
Putin more than Bill, Bill
Browder, who got screwed out of
money screwed out of the
country. It gets screwed. And
why is he at the Munich Security
Conference?
John C Dvorak: Why is anybody
there? This whole thing is a
joke. Right. But I have my own
clip.
Adam Curry: Let me play Browder
is
Unknown: you're also sending a
message to the international
community. You're at the Munich
Security Conference, the
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
Zelensky yesterday implied that
it's not an incident that
Nirvana's death was announced.
On the first day of the
conference. Do you think Putin
is sending a message to the
community to? And if so, to what
purpose?
Well, it's not exactly clear
what the timing is. But it is
actually very coincidental that
all of the major world leaders
are here at the Munich Security
Conference right now, at the
moment that ALEXEI NAVALNY was
murdered by Putin. And so, one
one, the theory is that after
the war started after Putin
invaded Ukraine, the Munich
Security Conference didn't allow
Russian officials to come here
anymore. And so this is a way
for Putin to effectively troll
the entire world, even though
he's not here in person along
with his
Adam Curry: I know, I will call
everybody I will live in their
head and fee I bet Ken Ham
entourage,
Unknown: by killing Alexina
balmy Putin is in the head of
every single person at this
conference. It is the weekend
and so this is his way of saying
you might be able to disinvite
me, but I don't care. I'm still
in your head.
Adam Curry: Oh my god. He's so
ruthless. Now. Before you play
your clips, I have an
observation and one more because
Hillary Clinton was at the
Munich Security Conference where
she was. This is weird. They all
have these. It looks like a
Sheriff's Badge that they're
wearing on their on their
lapels. It's big. It's the size
of a Sheriff's Badge. It has a
star in the middle. It has
Ukrainian and a US flag on it.
It looks like they've all been
deputized. It's the weirdest
thing if you got a close up of
it. It's literally like I am a
deputy of sheriff's Alinsky. And
of course Christiana Amanpour is
there to talk to her but Hillary
on the street
Unknown: Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton is joining me
and you very quickly tweeted,
Madam Secretary, thank you for
being with us. On this day. Your
condolences not only to his
family and friends and yourself,
but to the people of Russia. You
are sending a message I
was Christiane. You know, I've
gotten to know Yvonne A's wife
and daughter. I've gotten to
work with a number of the people
who have been around him
exposing corruption, putting
together an opposition.
Adam Curry: Let's be honest, she
has the record agenda to Putin
and
Unknown: And it was so tragic to
hear that he's been killed. And
there's no doubt in my mind. And
I know President Biden just made
a statement based on the
intelligence available to our
government, that his death is a
result of Putin's brutality. And
it is a tragedy for Russia, that
someone who was willing to stand
up and speak out and really
represent a different future for
Russia should be killed and and
you probably have heard
Adam Curry: that, wait a minute,
what is it just, I want to hear
out
Unknown: and really represent a
different future for Russia
should be killed.
Adam Curry: And now Now she's
saying he was killed.
Unknown: And you probably have
heard that he was actually on
video yesterday from the prison
doing some kind of illegal
appearance. He looked healthy.
He was his usual kind of
confident to joke cracking self.
In fact, he or she, their wife
and others who saw that video
yesterday. Were quite reassured
that he was okay. And then we
get this terrible news today.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is all
very, very sketchy. I don't even
know if he's actually dead.
John C Dvorak: Then we don't
have we don't have to find his
body. We don't have any proof.
This is just as of yesterday.
Adam Curry: It's just all
hearsay as far as I'm concerned.
It's a dark cloud over the
Munich Security Conference. The
hookers prices went down. No one
was in the mood.
John C Dvorak: That dark cloud
me say went up.
Adam Curry: No one was in the
mood. No, no, no, no one was in
the mood. All right, if you've
got a couple clips.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have a
bunch of clips actually having
this Munich thing. This but I
want to start off with this
screwball one, which is Uma
Aberdeen is going to be at the
meet up at the midnight that
that was peculiar meetup.
Adam Curry: The meetup. Yeah.
Munich
John C Dvorak: meetup. Have
Adam Curry: you? Have you heard
who she's dating? Yeah, she's
John C Dvorak: dating. Soros,
his kid.
Adam Curry: The Soros kid can't
believe. Yeah, I can. She gets
around.
John C Dvorak: She was on
Morning mica, of course, talking
about Biden, and they're all
going on and on about how great
Biden is that group of men and
Jen was there. And I think she
referred to Jen Psaki as Jen,
Jen
Adam Curry: at one point and
Jen. Oh, man.
John C Dvorak: I know. I wish I
couldn't get that clip of me.
Adam Curry: irksome I liked a
Munich meetup. Like, oh, that's
what it is. There's a show
titled Munich meetup. Yes. Good.
John C Dvorak: Before I play,
Uma, I'll play that. We could
play her but let's play this
play. Because here's the top
issue. According to NPR at the
at the Munich, Munich NPR top
issue. World leaders
Unknown: and defense ministers
are gathering in Germany for the
Munich Security Conference, the
high profile Summit is a chance
to discuss pressing global
security issues. And this year,
the war in Ukraine and the
United States relationship to it
are top issues.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, in
that same report, you listen a
little further. Here's the
Munich what is the top issue?
Topic
Unknown: Munich Security
Conference, the hostages taken
by Hamas in early October after
the attack southern Israel was
the main topic, and it seems
fair to get them out of Gaza.
But Qatar is Prime Minister
Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman
alfani, appeared cautious about
the prospect of a new agreement
between Israel and Hamas, saying
while they've made good progress
so far, it appears the talks
have stalled between
the two sides. The patent in the
last few days are not really
very promising. But as I always
repeat, you know, we will always
remain optimistic.
The hostages had been held since
early October. Okay,
John C Dvorak: so wait, did the
same report the top issues
Ukraine, then the top issue is
something else? And then would I
think the top issue is because
like you said, Everybody and
their sisters showed up to this
drinking club. It must have been
Yeah, I think. I think Klaus
Schwab should be taking the East
there too, by the way, of
course, of course, but he should
be thinking about
Adam Curry: Nancy Pelosi, he's
there. Everybody's there. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but the top geeks
are there to listen to this
Unknown: major tech companies
this week signed a pact to
voluntarily adopt reasonable
precautions to prevent
artificial intelligence from
disrupting democratic elections
around the world. Tech
executives from several
companies including Amazon,
Google met up Microsoft and tick
tock gathered at the Munich
security conference to announce
a new voluntary framework for
how they will respond to AI
generated deep fakes that
deliberately trick voters. It's
largely symbolic, but it does
target increasingly realistic AI
generated images, audio and
video that makes candidates say
something they didn't or mislead
about how to vote. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's voluntary
everybody don't worry. me while
I'm getting me while we are two
Golden Retrievers podcasting on
a mountain. So
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing that
the reference has still eludes
me obviously. So I'm guessing
that everybody this is like was
the end thing to go to this was
like
Adam Curry: this is this is the
new new Davos, you had to go to
John C Dvorak: this because just
now I want you to listen to,
they're talking about Joe
Biden's old age and they ask a
question of uma about his old
age. And and this is a mica. And
mica is saying, you know, it's
great to be old, you got wisdom.
And she did an interview with
Jill who says, yeah, he's great
is the best man, I mean, person
for the job. She said that
exactly. And it goes on and on.
And so she throws us at Uma. And
so in a form of I guess, virtue
signaling about this event, you
get to hear the following. So
Huma, can it be? Can it be a
positive factor? Well, Mika,
Unknown: as I think you all
know, I'm on my way to Munich
for attend a security
conference. And the
conversations that, you know,
came out after the Davos meeting
a few weeks ago, the
conversations people are having
about what is going to happen in
our country, is he you know, is
to Gen Z, do you know, echoing
again, Jen's point? Is he going
to be our nominee? Could it be
Trump, they're making these huge
decisions about their own, you
know, their own country's
futures based on what they think
is going to happen in our
country. And in part because
America, even though we are not
the foremost sort of, you know,
have the foremost diplomacy
today, we had maybe a few
decades ago, we are still seen
as a leading partner on any
global stage. And these are
conversations we're talking
about life and death and these
crises and these conflicts, not
just in Ukraine and the Middle
East, but really throughout the
world. But those two are for at
the forefront of people's minds.
And so many of these
relationships are based on trust
Hold on.
Adam Curry: Like your
relationship with Carlos Danger.
So she was wife of Anthony
wiener she was at it may be
still be Hillary Clinton's body
man as it's described. And now
she's talking about policy and
she's and she's at the Munich
Conference and she's on MSNBC
going on and on about but but
the, I mean, these
John C Dvorak: Clintons they,
this is unbelievable, or what
yeah,
Adam Curry: they the Clintons
have clearly sent their girl uma
side up to the to the sorrows of
fortune with Alex, who was
probably he's probably dumb.
He's probably unaware that his
life hangs by a thread of
John C Dvorak: hooking up with
the Clintons.
Adam Curry: I mean, he does not
know what he's getting. I put
him on the list. This is very
this is very dangerous. Alex
Soros, this is not a good thing.
So that's what he that's what he
wants.
John C Dvorak: Yes, she's
fooling around talking about
policy. Now. She was just
basically a gopher, she's like,
Hey,
Adam Curry: if you see my spread
in vogue, then Hey, baby be my
valentine. So
John C Dvorak: just as an aside,
I have another clip of her
talking about this. I've never
heard this is the other uma clip
from the from the conference
mica morning show.
Adam Curry: I play it or not?
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: play it. But I
wanted to just set it up a
little bit. It this is something
that supposedly explains why
Biden has this, you know, he has
an awkward gait of an old
drunkard that is pretty much
suffering from dementia. But no,
no, that's not it at all.
Unknown: By then went up and
said, You know, I stutter and
and this is my experience in
life. And this is what the
President does, too. And I
wasn't reminded or I'd
forgotten, and I pay attention.
By the way I watch your shows, I
had forgotten that the President
had hurt his foot when he was
president elect. And that
that's, you know, one of the
reasons why it's you know, he
has an issue of sometimes with
that with that foot I completely
forgotten and so I think being
transparent is really important.
In this day and age, you can be
coy and sort of be a virgin
walking into spacing. I don't
know and let's get to the
election day.
Adam Curry: You have to Oh,
okay, so, two things about this
clip one bull crap, too. She
mentions his stutter.
Coincidence in our show is
unbelievable. John, I didn't
know you were bringing this
clip. Dave Jones has been
helping me we need to restore
some old clips from the archive
we moved servers and so clips
from like before Episode 500 or
so we're, we're resulting 404 So
he is working on this. He says
hey, man, so I've restored these
clips. Listen to Biden from 2014
The big stutterer I
Unknown: aspire for one of my
grandchildren become wealthy. So
when they put me in a home, I
get a window with a view, you
know, I mean, right now. As I,
as I pointed out, it was
embarrassing. Bernie Sanders net
worth is more than mine. I have
less money than a socialist. I
don't know what the hell
happened.
Adam Curry: That's Biden only 10
years ago. That does not in any
way a resemble the man we hear
today be No, he has no stutter.
There's no stutter. No, no, I'm
just saying this. No stutter.
John C Dvorak: That's a bold
crap. This is just 40 he walks
funny because he had an I kinda
remember when he had his boot.
Boot.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that just
because he had because Trump put
him in an ankle monitor on him.
If I recall correctly,
John C Dvorak: I recall and
that's the reason he walks
funny. There were
Adam Curry: a whole bunch of
people who had boots on a time,
don't you remember? Like that
was a thing like, Oh, someone's
got to boot that means they got
the ankle monitor. Yes, this was
the thing. I'm sure of it. I'm
sure of it. The so we know what
the bricks are? Of course,
Brazil, Russia, India, China,
South America. Now Egypt, Saudi
Arabia. Everyone's in with the
brake. Everybody's getting in on
the act. So Deutsche Avella
thinks oh, you know, I'll ask
the Indian government what they
think about Laval D.
Unknown: So David Shudehill is
national spokesman for the
governing party in India, the
BJP. That's the party, of course
of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
Thanks very much for taking time
here at the Munich Security
Conference. David Shergill.
Let's talk about first of all
the news that has really been
shaking the event here today,
the death of Alexei Navalny, the
Russian opposition leader. India
has maintained good relations
with Russia for decades and also
through the war over the last
couple of years. When something
like this happens, what goes
through your mind and what goes
through the kind of calculations
in Delhi is this really a
country Russia? Do you want to
be doing business with? Russia?
I will retreat or India Stan,
Russia was is and will remain
India's strong friend and ally.
Adam Curry: He's our friend our
ally. I don't care what you say
Deutsche Avella? Of course not.
Of course not. Of course. There
was some actual business going
on though. There's some red
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
Unknown: here it is. NATO
Defence Ministers have put talk
of a rift between the US and
Europe are behind them.
Following a two day meeting in
Brussels. The Alliance hailed
the increase in defense budgets,
which will see European members
an extra $33 billion this year.
The Alliance money is continued
backing for Ukraine.
running short on the
battlefield. NATO Defence
Ministers stressed more needs to
be done to ensure that Ukraine
has the supplies it needs. We
also discussed ramping up
production of ammunition to
refill our stocks and continue
to support Ukraine wait for it.
We need to shift from the slow
pace of peacetime to the high
tempo production demanded by
come shift NATO
said it was set up a training
center with Ukraine and Poland
to share intelligence on
fighting the Russian arm. A
group of member states also
wants to send 1 million drones
to Ukraine and other allies want
to help clear minds in the war
torn country.
Adam Curry: Yeah, maybe 1
million 1 million drones 1
million drums Yeah, that doesn't
sound fun. Now but this is $33
million and 1 million drones.
billion billion. I mean, come
on. start shoving in our face
will Yeah. We got it. We
understand that throw humor out
there. I have Richard angle
report. If you want that.
John C Dvorak: As we haven't
heard any. Get the actual CIA
report.
Adam Curry: Book angle from
Richard angle NBC.
Unknown: 47 year old ALEXEI
NAVALNY was looking healthy,
joking with a judge via video
link from his Arctic prison just
two days ago. navall Knees
mother saw him Monday and said
he was in good spirits. Yet
somehow Alexei Navalny, Russian
President Vladimir Putin's
fiercest and most energetic
critic drop dead suddenly
there'd
Adam Curry: catch your talking
points everybody dropped dead
suddenly
Unknown: at a penal colony in
Siberia. Prison officials say
Navalny went for a walk but felt
unwell and quickly lost
consciousness. They said medics
could not provide them.
President Biden blamed President
Putin
Make no mistake. Putin is
responsible for Nevada and he's
dead
Adam Curry: make no money.
Unknown: Go supporters laid
flowers. Volley. What
John C Dvorak: do you think is
maybe? I don't know, maybe it's
just me by being cautious,
irresponsible to make these
sorts of claims when you
actually have no evidence. Make
Adam Curry: no mistake. You're
making a mistake by saying that.
Make no mistake, Putin is
responsible. Make
Unknown: no mistake. Putin is
responsible for the volunteers
dead
in Moscow supporters laid
flowers to get a warning from
the state prosecutor. Sorry,
Adam Curry: yes.
John C Dvorak: What kind of
diplomat is this guy?
Adam Curry: He's Joe Biden.
John C Dvorak: We're doing a war
with Ukraine that we'd like to
get out of, I think.
Adam Curry: Uh huh. Okay. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So you want to do
what you what's called
diplomacy, which is a well known
phenomenon that is used by
politicians to get out of things
you don't want to continue to
do? Unless you just want to
squander the nation's wealth
away.
Adam Curry: Are you being
sarcastic no
John C Dvorak: mistake, he wants
to squander our money.
Adam Curry: Did you just get off
the hayride?
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did. Okay.
I gotta hit you up. My ass
Unknown: is responsible for the
volunteers dead.
In Moscow supporters laid
flowers to honor and Avallone
despite a warning from the state
prosecutor that protests would
not be allowed when a woman
tried to unfurl a sign that she
was taken away by authorities.
Adam Curry: No, I didn't they
have been he has some
background. Might as well do
that. It's not that long.
Unknown: Not only started out as
an anti corruption blogger, a
blogger exposing on his YouTube
show. He started
Adam Curry: out as a blogger.
Remember those days of blogs?
John? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: used to be a
blogger.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we used to
blog divorce, blah, blah, blah,
Unknown: exposing on his YouTube
show the lavish lifestyles in
YouTube show joy by Putin. No, I
John C Dvorak: didn't know that.
Adam Curry: That's what he's
most known for. This is what's
so crazy is like he was the
staunchest opponent, he's a
blogger.
Unknown: Navalny was a central
figure in massive protests
against Putin in 2012. He was
jailed and harassed and attacked
with a green dye that damaged
his right eye. In 2020. While on
a flight in Moscow
suddenly fell ill the net pops,
he was poisoned by a nerve agent
and flown to Germany to recover.
He blamed Putin for the
assassination attempt. The
Kremlin denied responsibility.
And then came the most
consequential decision of his
life, not only returned to
Russia, after recovering from
his posting, not only
deliberately put his life on the
line and his principles First
until his death, which isn't
confirmed by his family, but who
don't seem to doubt it.
Adam Curry: And then finally, we
have his wife in Munich, at the
potty and of
Unknown: all knees wife, Yulia
in Munich called for President
Putin to be punished. Only
splitsies we should come
together and fight against this
evil she said in 2021, President
Biden warned Putin of
devastating consequences if
anything happened to Navalny in
Russian custody. Peter pressing
him on that on Friday.
What consequences should he add
Russia face that
was three years ago. In the
meantime, they faced a hell of a
lot of consequences and we're
contemplating what else could be
done. More war talk.
John C Dvorak: So I have a Siri.
I just have a little
backgrounder clip I want to play
this is the soft Russian Mr. Is
Sora sort of this is sort for,
but this from PBS This is a
short, short, short Russian
mysterious deaths.
Unknown: I think, you know,
there are some incidents
straight out of a spy novel, for
example, Sergei skripal. He was
an ex Russian spy who was
convicted of working for British
intelligence and he and his
daughter were found collapsed on
a bench in the UK after being
injected with Nova Chuck.
Another spy who ran afoul of
Putin, Alexander Litvinenko died
from a radioactive substance
called polonium, and that was
after having tea with two
Russian agents in London, Boris
nimsoft and opposition figure.
He was shot as well as
investigative journalist Anna
Politkovskaya, an oil tycoon
named reveal Maga NOF, who
called for the end to the
invasion of Ukraine. He fell to
his death from a sixth floor
window of a Moscow hospital. And
then last year, you've got a
precaution who was the head of
the Wagner mercenary group. He
died when the plane he was
flying in exploded in midair
after it left Moscow. You know,
that was shortly after Prigogine
spearheaded an uprising
challenging Putin's handling of
the Ukraine war. And Camilla The
list goes on and on. Now I
Adam Curry: counted eight, eight
killings against the Clinton
body count. You're just getting
started, man. Oh,
John C Dvorak: it's just a baby.
We don't have any. Do we know
that? This is not Fs bees doing
just from the get go, and then
Putin just gave them to go ahead
and maybe they do whatever they
want, they kill these guys left
and right. Well listen, why
don't we the CIA does this sort
of thing and it doesn't get
blamed on the president
necessarily No,
Adam Curry: CIA kills people.
John C Dvorak: I've heard that I
could be wrong.
Adam Curry: There's another
blogger, we should probably talk
about this
John C Dvorak: does kind of
expose the United States in, in
particular in the West in
general, to an expanding problem
that most of the rest of the non
western world sees, and that's
this double standard, because
while we excrete Putin for doing
what he did to not only and I
agree that that shouldn't have
been done to him, novelty, by
all accounts, is a great guy a
truth teller, and was trying to
expose the regime you meet him,
you have the US doing almost the
identical thing to Julian
Assange, who is also in a high
security prison in the UK,
awaiting extradition to the US.
And nobody wants to let him have
a voice to do anything, either.
And so the of the rest of the
world sees that now, we'll tell
ourselves, oh, well, that's
different because and fill in
the blank. But to most of the
world, you see a political
figure that the Russians in the
United States don't like, and
they're silencing them in jail.
So to them, it's the same thing,
which means our comments here on
Russia are gonna fall on deaf
ears in a lot of places. Yeah,
there you go. So let's just
don't forget did like you said
earlier the January 6 detainees?
Adam Curry: Oh, there was
something hilarious. Hold on a
second. So Nancy Pelosi is is
there, obviously. And she does
an interview on I think it's
called conflict zone, conflict
zone. And so it's it's about
Ukraine, obviously, and listen
to her what her head is actually
filled with.
Unknown: But there are levers
that
Adam Curry: actually I wanted to
play these two in, in sequence.
The first one is kind of short.
So this is about Israel versus
Hamas.
Unknown: Mr. Biden said Israel's
conduct of the war was over the
top. There are a lot of innocent
people who are starving. He
said, there are a lot of
innocent people who are in
trouble and dying. And it's got
to stop. Can Mr. Biden make it
stop?
Well, we have a, and I won't
call Mr. Because I've lost so
much respect for him, Netanyahu,
there who seems to be you've
lost respect for him a long time
ago. But nonetheless, it seems
to be calling the shots and he
and his very extreme right wing,
I wouldn't even say that's a
legitimate place to be in the
world of thinking on the
spectrum. But right wing radical
right wing of cabinet. So I
would hope that hearing from a
friend of Israel, as Joe Biden
has always been all of us have
been that he would respect the
lives of the people who are
innocent. Collateral Damage in
this war.
Adam Curry: So here's Nancy,
Miss Pelosi, with one of those
sheriff's star badges want to
share badges of Ukraine and USA
to
John C Dvorak: get a close up
shot of that for the newsletter.
Or at least I like to see it
maybe troll room can get me URL
URL and get a shot a good
closer.
Adam Curry: So she's like, No,
no, he's not a good guy. He's
far right. But she's being very
careful with her words. I know
AIPAC may be concerned about
what she's saying. So then Mr.
conflict zone, asked her well,
but the same question. Matt Lee
asked, but you have levers.
You've said you have levers to
pull. You can pull levers, what
levers are the levers, but there
Unknown: are levers that Biden
could use, which he hasn't used?
There are levers which previous
Presidents have used when Israel
has in their view crossed the
line? For example, go back to
1956 Eisenhower, refuse
sanctions if Israel didn't like
Adam Curry: 1956 I was 40 Back
then, dude, I don't remember
that isn't
Unknown: how I refuse sanctions
if Israel didn't pull its forces
out of Sinai. breakin, you know,
held up delivery of fighter jets
over Israel's actually leveled
George Bush Senior block loan
guarantees because of settlement
building yet I was there the day
that that I was going back to
56. So
these levers, there's
some But the President has said
something about the settlements.
He has said something about the
settlements. It's saying
and blocking. Weapons supplies,
for instance, are very different
things.
It's not it's a path. It's a
path. Look, this is terrible. I
mean, nobody wants to in any
way. Minimize what happened on
October 6. This was barbaric.
Adam Curry: It's October 7,
Nancy, your head's still in
January 6 More mid
Unknown: October 6, this was
barbaric. It was horrible and
consequences hostage taking
rape, murder, kidnapping,
attacking young people at a
music festival. How bad could it
get? And almost to the point of
inviting, inviting a reaction,
because
Adam Curry: she's saying January
6, really October 6. I think
what she's saying there is I was
like we were inviting a
reaction. I mean, it's in her
head. This woman's in her head.
She's practically admitting to
January 6 Being a setup in my
mind, which of course is twisted
but it's that Sheriff's Badge
that's blinding me
Unknown: very weird.
John C Dvorak: It's weird badge
I wonder with
Adam Curry: no one's been able
to find me you see it in all the
videos. It's it's a it's like it
lives it looks like a Sheriff's
Badge. I can't say it any other
way. It's got a big star in the
middle. It's like a gold or the
copper color. Golden goldish and
it has little Ukraine in US
flag. I mean, it's like if you
if you sign off on a mage the
billion dollar club if you sign
off on a billion for Ukraine,
you get a badge. It's like
flair. something screwy about
it. It's it's it's very NLP ish.
Speaking of such I would like to
do a little presentation unless
you want to do more a Munich.
John C Dvorak: Let me see what I
got here. More Munich stuff I've
got
Unknown: I don't think so. No, I
know. I'm good. Okay,
Adam Curry: so Tucker Carlson
dropped a video with Mike Benz.
And everybody's all GD jacked
about it. Have you before
John C Dvorak: you. Before you
continue with that? Did you? I'm
just asking, Did you see Tucker
in the Russian supermarket?
Well,
Adam Curry: then let me start
with that. Because I need to say
something about that as well.
Here. Here's the opening clip of
Tucker in the Moscow supermarket
show a long
Unknown: standing feature maybe
the longest standing feature of
Cold War propaganda in the West
was the Soviet grocery store. No
products, no choices, shoddily
made things.
Adam Curry: And it wasn't
actually propaganda. It was
real. And you know, he's showing
video from I don't know what
1956 I mean, this. It's been
quite modern for many years in
Moscow. Look at the pictures on
the on the GOP. So we thought
it'd be interesting to take a
look at a contemporary modern
day 2024 Russian grocery store
two years into sanctions. Here
we go.
Unknown: All right. Here we go.
So I guess you put in 10 rubles
here,
John C Dvorak: and you get it
back. The game pack right there.
Adam Curry: This is what I want
to talk about. This particular
Yes. What he's showing
John C Dvorak: is the old put a
coin in pull the card out. This
is not it's been
Adam Curry: around flew to
Russia. 10 years. Holland has
had it since they had the Gilder
John C Dvorak: they have them
all over the south. Yeah, Whole
Foods has him. I haven't seen
him around here. But that's
Adam Curry: that was my point.
It's like gaming. He needs to
get out more.
John C Dvorak: I agree. 100.
Adam Curry: Good catch. You
can't you caught yourself is
saying I agree you're safe
John C Dvorak: that he needs to
get out more because that little
coin thing is not new. And I go
for I'd say it's been around 25
years minimum. All
Adam Curry: right now. So Tucker
does an interview with Mike Benz
Mike. Ben's worked in
cybersecurity. I'm not sure
that's the exact title at the
State Department. For the past
two years, he has been the
executive director of foundation
for Freedom Online. The
foundation for Freedom Online is
not a nonprofit. It says he's
the only person he's the
executive director his mission
through educational reports
legal assistance and Public
Policy Analysis concerning
developing threats to digital
liberties. We seek to provide
nonpartisan insights and
assistance to all peoples taking
a stand for freedom of speech,
freedom of expression and the
free exchange of ideas online.
And it's a free speech watchdog
dedicated to restoring the
promise of a free and open
Internet. There is no donate
button does not claim to be a
nonprofit. So I looked all over
the website and then I see red
at the bottom at the bottom
under the contact page. It says
they are backed by this other
outfit called Empower oversight
at Empower e m p o w r dot U S M
they are accountability and
Public Integrity through the
power of information they defend
with Bill blowers and their
leadership their founder is
Jason foster there's all
Republican people represented
for different congressional
committees and hundreds of
disputes with the executive
branch over documents and
witnesses. There's let me see
Beth Levine strategic now she
does st and TJ commit Robert
hire officer in the US Marine
Corps Special Agent with the US
Secret Service and they're
located in Fairfax Virginia. And
you know I'm they have now they
are a nonprofit empowerment
oversight whistleblowers and
research about a million bucks
again, located in Fairfax,
Virginia. So rather spooky even
though on their website, they
say someplace in Texas, okay,
fine. But I wonder you know
who's funding this outfit? I
have. I have this is what I was
wondering if you had a good job
at State Department leave State
Department goes on lots of
shows. He's been on the pool boy
show. He's been in all kinds of
places. And I'm not saying he's
a bad guy. I'm not saying
Tucker's a bad guy. But it feels
to me like a massive redirection
because here was an hour and
four minute conversation where
mainly Mike is talking. And he
and it's um, he's saying the
correct things. But it's the
first eight minutes that is
important. And then for the next
55 minutes. All he's doing is
telling everybody about the
censorship industrial complex.
How how social media in America
censoring you censoring you
censoring you censoring. And I
believe that to be misdirection
we're setting it all out right
now. I don't know whether that's
purposeful or not. Tucker is
definitely a useful idiot. In
this case. I'm gonna have a
couple of clips and I have some
no agenda clips from back in the
day to backup what this really
is about, because all of this
started as propaganda. And we've
tracked propaganda on the
internet for a long time on the
no agenda show all the way
through the repeal of Smith
month, which had to happen
because of propaganda not
because of D platforming and
shadow banning and putting notes
community notes everywhere, but
because of actual propaganda,
and I think we're being
misdirected here. So I want to
present my case we start off
with
John C Dvorak: Mr. Right for
what purpose
Unknown: tonight okay.
Adam Curry: trusted voices is is
a concept in in the propaganda
war, and I'm talking trusted
voices like Renee de sastra. I
think that's her name, who was
on Joe Rogan, who came from me
out the sleeping giants and she
was on our Well, Mia. We have to
get get these horrible companies
offline, but she's really part
of the of the CIA. Mr.
misinformation. She is part of
misinformation. Malone. I've
never liked Mullah Malone is he
says, I hang out with CIA
people. Then your CIA. Yeah. And
he's the one that kind of got
rid of the Matias De Smet theory
of what was it a mass formation
and turned it into something
else and directed it towards
Hitler, instead of an actual,
the actual phenomenon that this
professor studied mass
formation, he turned to mass
formation delusion or something,
and then was just like Hitler,
and then we're all know. So
there are people who get on
podcasts in particular big
podcast, Tucker Carlson, where's
his money coming from? Where's
his lawsuit with Fox? Where's
that? I mean, you know, as I
have all kinds of questions
about these people, and you
know, Brett Weinstein is now
being on Tucker. He was back on
Joe Rogan. I mean, these people
are everywhere. Brett Weinstein
gets invited to go to the Darien
Gap and then comes back and
says, we're being invaded by
China. No, I'm sorry. I think
that we're being mis directed by
people who are probably well
intending and they just get in
from you know how it happens. It
happens to me to microdots I
mean, things happen.
John C Dvorak: I mean, hey, you
said it.
Adam Curry: I did. Yeah, but I'm
saying I'm saying that Q anon.
You know, it's this kind of
stuff. And this misdirection
taking place. And this my belief
that we're all being told to get
it this This interview was so
earth shaking.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I've your I
think you're rambling a little
bit. I'm not getting what I
want. So let's play what do you
what do you want? What do you
want want to know specifically
what the what the OP is? The OP
is to focus
Adam Curry: everybody on D
platforming and censorship and
not on the messaging, the
propaganda that is all out in
the open in front of our faces.
That's what that's what I'm
talking about.
John C Dvorak: nobody's talking
about free speech on the
internet was an instrument of
statecraft almost from the
outset of the privatization of
the internet in 1991. We quickly
discovered through the efforts
of the Defense Department, the
State Department and our
intelligence services, that
people were using the internet
to congregate on blogs and
forums, and free speech was
championed more than anybody by
the Pentagon, the State
Department and our sort of CIA
cut out NGO blob architecture as
a way to support dissident
groups around the world in order
to help them overthrow
authoritarian governments as
they were sort of build.
Essentially, the internet
internet free speech allowed
kind of instant regime change
operations, to be able to
facilitate the foreign policy
establishments, State Department
agenda and the ability to track
to use free speech on the
internet as a way to circumvent
state control over media over in
places like Central Asia or were
all around the world was seen as
a way to be able to do what used
to be done out of CIA station
houses, or out of embassies or
consulates in a way that that
was totally turbocharged. And
all of the Internet free speech
technology was initially created
by our national security state
VPN, virtual private networks to
hide your your IP address, tour
the dark web to be able to buy
and trail sell goods
anonymously. And to end
encrypted chats. All these
things were created, initially
as DARPA projects, or as joint
CIA NSA projects to be able to
help intelligence back groups to
overthrow governments that were
causing a problem to the Clinton
administration or the Bush
administration, the Obama
administration.
Adam Curry: And I brought some
hoops to back that up, because
what up that all of these
techniques are initially the
psychological operations of the
military, the State Department
were used to overthrow foreign
governments who are various
member
John C Dvorak: they've got an
internet in a box and all the
other stuff. Hillary's This is
Nuland.
Unknown: Our next question comes
from our Farsi feed 1220 12 at
USAID or Farsi. Two part
question from at m in LV.
Asked state Iran is about to cut
off the internet. What's the
status of the suitcase internet?
And what is the US procedure on
the new threat to the US Navy? I
assume?
Adam Curry: So yes, they had the
the suitcase internet, we were
doing everything we could to
overthrow countries by having
techno experts, as Hillary
Clinton called them, rooms full
of people who were infiltrating
online posting messages against
the regime that that's what it
was used for. And that's
John C Dvorak: what Putin was
pissed off about. Yes,
Adam Curry: it certainly did.
This is Tom Shanker from the New
York Times 2011.
Unknown: It certainly did what
what the American military
intelligence can do is forge the
watermarks or certification, if
you will, of official al Qaeda
postings because they don't want
people going online and
pretending to be them. But, you
know, American cyber technology
is so advanced that they can
have a near near perfect
recreation of an al Qaeda
message. And what they're doing
from time to time was going on
to jihadi websites, and posting
conflicting and contradictory
orders. Statements that raise
doubt about who the jihadi
should follow and who's really
in charge. And is this person
still alive? Are they still in
control? And the goal is to
really disrupt the entire
network by sowing distrust and
dissenting and can confusion,
we've been told that they've had
some great successes of that.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm playing these
clips. Because I think that that
is the thing that we're being
directed away from is Who are
these people who are posting
messages, sowing dissent, coming
into groups, probably in in in
our own group as well? rummaging
around but But Mike Ben's, his
whole hour was about the removal
of free speech. That's what
Tucker's of Oh, free speech is
all Oh, we don't have free
speech. Yeah, that's not what
it's about that, to me. It's a
cover up of what is really going
on. This is the second part of
Ben's,
John C Dvorak: and this plan
worked magically, from about
1991 Until about 2014 When there
began to be an about face on
internet freedom and its
utility. Now the high watermark
of this sort of internet free
speech moment was the Arab
Spring, in 2011 2012 when you
had this One by one, all of the
adversary governments of the
Obama administration, Egypt,
Tunisia, all began to be toppled
in Facebook revolutions and
Twitter revolutions. And you had
the State Department working
very closely with the social
media companies to be able to
keep social media online. during
those periods. There's a famous
phone call from Google's Jared
Cohen, to Twitter to not do
their scheduled maintenance. So
that distance that the preferred
opposition group and Iran would
be able to use Twitter to to win
that election. So it was an
insult free speech was an
instrument of statecraft from
the national security state. To
begin with all of that
architecture, all the NGOs, the
relationships between the tech
companies and the national
security state had been long
established for freedom. In
2014. After the coup in Ukraine,
there was an unexpected counter
coup where Crimea, and the
Donbass broke away. And they
broke away with essentially a
military backstop that NATO was
highly unprepared for at the
time, they had one last Hail
Mary chance, which was the
Crimea annexation vote on in
2014. And when the hearts and
minds of the people of Crimea
voted to join the Russian
Federation, that was the last
straw for the concept of free
speech on the internet in the
eyes of NATO.
Adam Curry: And now we go back
to Hillary Clinton,
Unknown: we're doing a lot of
work to try to come up with
technologies that can circumvent
the jamming and the
interruptions and the tracking
that the regime are engaged in
right now. We are providing
technology, some of which, you
know, is more effective than
others, we are certainly
training people, both outside
and inside to be able to use
technology to circumvent this is
one of my highest priorities.
You know, I've spoken out
repeatedly about the right of
people to have access to the
internet, it is freedom of
speech and expression and
assembly values that we think
every human being is entitled
to. But we've also seen the
regime in Iran impose what
amounts to an electronic
curtain. It's the 21st century
century equivalent of the barbed
wire and the fences and the dogs
that the old Soviet Union used
because they come at it from the
same mentality, they want
totalitarian control over what
you learn and what you say, and
even what you think and how you
worship and all the things that
go to the heart of human dignity
and human freedom. So yes, we
are doing everything we can now
I will quickly add that, that
we're experimenting, you know,
sometimes we think something
will work, it turns out not to
work, sometimes we get, you
know, maybe a year ahead of the
regime's efforts, and then they
catch up. And we have to go back
to the drawing boards. But I
want to assure your viewers that
we are committed to doing
everything we can to provide as
much communication freedom
inside and outside of Iran to
people trying to speak out for
their rights as possible.
Adam Curry: So Mike Benzes point
that he goes on and on. If you
look, I presuming you haven't
seen the hour long interview.
What everyone is responding to
is they have backdoors into
Twitter, they can take you off,
they can shadow ban you. But
that's the wrong thing to focus
on, is
John C Dvorak: they saw it, the
fundamental nature of war
changed at that moment. And NATO
at that point, declared
something that they first called
the jurrasic off doctrine, which
is named after this Russian
military general, who they
claimed made a speech that the
fundamental nature of war has
changed. You don't need to win
military skirmishes to take over
Central and Eastern Europe. All
you need to do is control the
media and the social media
ecosystem, because that's what
controls elections. And if you
simply get the right
administration into power, they
control the military. So it's
infinitely cheaper than
conducting a military war to
simply conduct an organized
political influence operation
over social media than legacy
media in industry had been
created that spanned the
Pentagon, the British Ministry
of Defence and Brussels into a
organized political warfare
outfit, essentially
infrastructure that was created,
initially stationed in Germany
and in Central and Eastern
Europe, to create psychological
buffer zones basically to create
the ability to have the military
work with the social media
companies to censor Russian
propaganda or to censor domestic
right wing populist groups in
Europe who are rising in
political power at the time
because of the migrant crisis.
Adam Curry: See, this is where
he starts to pivot and this is
what I disagree. What he's what
he's focusing everybody on is
the censorship. But what the
what the Defense Department was
really doing was stuff like this
as we work the data piece, and
it gives us the ability instead
of just this from 2017 our own
archives Throwing a message out
and hope it lands, we can
actually I call that kind of
meat cleaver messaging, as you
throw it out there. And
hopefully it hits the right
audience. So we have the
ability, and I'll use an example
of something we've started this
year. And this is using Facebook
ads, I can go within Facebook, I
can, I can go grab an audience,
I can give a hypothetical, I can
pick Country X, I need age group
13 to 34. I need people who
who've liked, you know, whether
it's Abu Bakr, Al Baghdadi, or
any other set, and I can shoot
and hit them directly with
messages for in some places in
the world, it's literally
pennies a click. So, you know,
that's what they're doing.
They're using this in the same
propaganda is as old as the word
propaganda. But that's what we
need to focus on is on the
propaganda. And then the final
clip, this is Mike bends, who
really explains what this is
about, this kind of helps us
understand why NATO was all
freaked out about Trump, because
without NATO, then the real
owners of the world are in
trouble when
John C Dvorak: Brexit happened
in 2016. It was it that was that
was this crisis moment where
suddenly they didn't have to
worry just about Central Eastern
Europe anymore. It was coming
westward, this idea of Russian
control over hearts and minds.
And so that was Brexit was June
2016, the very next month at the
war at the Warsaw conference,
NATO formally amended its
charter to to expressly commit
to hybrid warfare as their as
this new NATO capacity. So they
went from, you know, basically
70 years of attacks to this
explicit capacity building for
censoring tweets if they were
deemed to be Russian proxies.
And again, it's not just Russian
propaganda. This was these were
now Brexit groups, or groups
like Matteo Salvini, in Italy,
or in Greece, or in Germany, or
in Spain with the Vox party. And
now at the time, NATO was
publishing white papers, saying
that the biggest threat NATO
faces is not actually a military
invasion from Russia, it's
losing domestic elections across
Europe, in to all these right
wing populist groups who because
they were mostly working class
movements, were campaigning on
cheap Russian energy at a time
when the US was pressuring this
energy diversification policy.
And so they made the argument
after Brexit. Now the entire
rules based international order
would collapse unless the
military took control over
media, because Brexit would give
rise to Brexit in France with
Marine LePen, to specs it in
Spain with a Vox party to Italy
exiting in Italy, to Brexit and
Germany to Grexit. And Greece,
the EU would come apart, so NATO
would be killed without a single
bullet being being fired. And
then not only that, now that
NATO is gone. Now, there's no
enforcement arm for the
International Monetary Fund The
IMF or the World Bank. So now
the financial stakeholders who
depend on the battering ram of
the national security state
would basically be helpless
against governments around the
world.
Adam Curry: So I appreciate that
Mike, Ben, settle this. This is
absolutely true. But then, as I
said, then it just goes on.
Everyone's talking about how
incredible that the censorship
industrial complex is. We need
to be careful, especially with
what I call the info Mavericks.
What are these people telling
us? What battlefield are they
sending us to, to run around?
And I'll be all spun up about
this. Oh, that there's some
shadow banned. While you in the
meantime, the people who are
right in our face are giving us
information, like the
supermarkets in Moscow are so
much better. Now, it's like what
what are we going to pay
attention to? That's my point.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: I thought that he
generalized a bit. His history
of the internet's a bit much.
He's claiming everything
happened around 9091, including
VPNs, which is decade off. But I
will go listen to that interview
as she would I think,
Adam Curry: yeah, now I should
have sent it to you. I mean,
they even wondered put it on the
no agenda stream after our show.
I'm like, no, no, no, they it
doesn't matter. You know, the
powers that be the powers that
run the stream. But But that's,
but that's the kind of that's
the level of enthusiasm I see
for Mike Benz, who may be a very
nice guy and Tucker is probably
a really nice guy. But I just
have the feeling that they are
sending us to these battlefields
where they want us to be, which
is about free speech, free
speech. They're censoring us.
Oh, they're censoring us. Elon
is great. Okay. Keep believing
that.
John C Dvorak: So many do hello,
Ukraine. stuff all right. I have
a couple of clips here that were
kind of like took me aback
Adam Curry: Wait, where's it
from?
John C Dvorak: This is This
one's from NPR and was from PBS.
Adam Curry: Oh, so Oh, PBS.
Excellent but wait a
John C Dvorak: minute I had no
we have a jingle that's what I'm
waiting for. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: don't know. Well
what happened to my jingle Well,
I'm way off. I
John C Dvorak: don't. Wow. Yeah.
Okay.
Adam Curry: I usually play that
thing right away. I don't know
what happened is probably
John C Dvorak: could play Amy's
right away if you had to.
Adam Curry: Oh, here we go,
elitist voices of America. This
is NPR or PBS. I'm sorry. I
really screwed that one up. I'll
cut it out. Go let it out. No
one will know.
John C Dvorak: So let's go with
Ukraine. Waitwhat.
Unknown: Ukraine's president is
warning Western allies that
holding up military aid is
having an effect on the
battlefield. And here's Joanna
kisses reports. Russia secured
its first battlefield win in
months after Ukrainian troops
low on ammunition withdrew from
a strategic eastern town
President Biden referred to the
fall of the town of de WQA. In a
call with Ukrainian president
Volodymyr Zelensky. Biden said
Ukrainian soldiers had to quote
ration ammunition as a result of
congressional inaction.
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, why?
Adam Curry: It's our fault. This
Republic Day I
John C Dvorak: thought England
in particular was like the big,
big boy and the EU and Germany
where you know, it's our
Congress that cost the city
little city, his are overrun by
the Russians. Just us alone.
We're doing the whole thing. Is
that what you're telling me?
It's
Adam Curry: our fault. Yes. PBS
NPR. NPR. Yes, yes.
John C Dvorak: NPR. It's our
fault.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes.
John C Dvorak: You're if you're
saying little Jhansi
Adam Curry: Dvorak, you're at
fault. That's what you're
supposed to feel is your fault.
This
John C Dvorak: is the second
half of that clip.
Unknown: Earlier at the Munich
Security Conference. Zelinsky
said a delay in aid only helps
Russian President Vladimir Putin
who ordered the full scale
invasion of Ukraine nearly two
years ago.
John C Dvorak: Do not ask
Ukraine when the war will end.
Ask yourself, why is Putin still
able to continue it?
Unknown: The Russian occupation?
Comes a month before
presidential elections in
Russia.
Adam Curry: Give her some
credit, man, give us some
credits.
John C Dvorak: What he's saying
there. He's insulting us. Yes.
He's saying how come Russia can
keep this war going? And you
wimps can't do it. Yes. You're
Republicans. That's right.
That's exactly what he's how
dumb is the American public to
fall for this to be suckers for
this stupid war for up to two
years now. This is billions and
billions. And Lee's latest thing
is 95 billion they want.
Adam Curry: I think that if if
you were given one of those nice
Sheriff stars, you'd probably be
like, oh, yeah, I gotta help you
out.
John C Dvorak: So here's the
PVS. Reverse, similar, not as
similar not as bad as that
report, but PBS Ukraine in
Munich,
Unknown: Ukrainian forces that
withdrawn from the devastated
eastern city of Deepika, handy
Russia, a key victory of
Ukrainian soldiers desperately
short of ammunition had was
Russian assault for four months.
At the Munich Security
Conference, Vice President
Kamala Harris met with Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky
Solinsky said he's hoping for a
break in the months long
congressional log jam. That's
bottled up US aid for Ukraine
Cova Manam,
we are counting on this positive
decision of the Congress. For
us. This package is vital. We do
not currently look into
alternatives because we're
counting on the United States
National as as an our partner
strategic partner. When
we talk about the role of
America as it relates to our
support for Ukraine. We must be
unwavering and we cannot play
political games.
Harris said there is no money
pass a $60 billion aid package.
There was only plan a she told
reporters. The Senate
overwhelmingly approved the aid
bill but House Speaker Mike
Johnson said he won't even bring
it up for a vote. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's from Mike
Johnson.
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
Because I've learned something
else, because these packages are
all tied to the border. And you
know, I've looked at the border
packages. And it seems like
there's a lot of money going
into helping migrants not into
stopping migrants. And yeah,
they talk a big game but and
well actually, here's the here's
the big game that's being talked
down here. his
Unknown: dirt field along the
Rio Grande and Eagle Pass will
soon be perhaps the most visible
sign that Texas is wrangling
control of border security from
the federal government. Governor
Abbott announced the state is
building a forward operating
base for the Texas military
department to
Adam Curry: Forward Operating
Base this. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: play my clip
Texas base camp.
Adam Curry: Forward Operating
Base is is a very militaristic
terms. Its
Unknown: Governor Greg wants to
build a military base camp at
the southern border base camp
will support the state's efforts
to limit the number of people
crossing illegally into the US
from Mexico, the 80 acre base
camp would hold up to 2300
National Guard troops.
Adam Curry: All right, but
here's what's really happening.
I don't have a clip. But someone
this morning sent me an article
from Tucson. Tucson we'll see
homelessness on steroids as
migrant aid funds dry up. And
this is mainly the Catholic
Community Services. Remember,
all of the State Department
wait.
John C Dvorak: I used to get I
get to try to guess what you're
going to say. But are you going
to and I'm just thinking about
this on the fly, suggest that
this aid package that's so
important about the border is to
brief fill all the NGO monies?
Adam Curry: Yes. And that's why
I think if Mike Johnson is
really smart, that's why he's
keeping it at bay. Because now
we're seeing the wheels come off
of everything. And the first one
that I've gotten here, it even
says the Senate's failed
bipartisan border security
package, co sponsored by Kirsten
cinema of Arizona would have
appropriated 1.4 billion to
support temporary shelters for
migrants through the Catholic
Community Services NGO. And by
the way, it's the Catholic
bishops. It's the Jewish migrant
resettlement, it's all these
faith based. Yeah. Migrant
John C Dvorak: accumulating
money. Yes.
Adam Curry: And it's 1000s per,
per migrant. So that would
explain why maybe Mike Johnson
is trying to keep this at bay to
show that it all comes apart if
we don't have that money,
because it's not to stop people
from coming in. It's to put them
hide them, put them in shelters,
and then I get this from
Chicago, Illinois, one of our
producers said he's going to
apply for this operations focal
point flight management in
Chicago International
Organization for Migration, also
known as the IOM, Amy Pope,
former State Department shell
was running that, what exactly
will you do in this? What are
the responsibilities for this
candidate, which is $5,500 per
month, actually 5508 33
undertake flight management
activities and an assigned area
such as leading teams as they
meet and assist flights, meeting
and assisting small groups and
individual arrivals organizing
transit and ground
transportation, transportation,
undertaking air ticket
validation procedures and
completing administrative duties
as required, monitor and guide
teams of Operation clerks and
operations assistance in
completing flight management
activities. This is this is an
this is an a job from the United
Nations job. Yeah, International
Office Organization for
Migration in Chicago. Why'd
John C Dvorak: it why don't we
just throw the United Nations
out of the country? This is this
operation is out to get us.
Adam Curry: Yes, that well, no,
they're not out to get us. They
are doing this because they know
that we need to meet that $7
trillion. Mark that the Oh, the
Office of? Was it the OCT No,
the OCB the the accounting
office of the government. They
said we had that report. This is
Oh, looks like we'll have a
windfall as long as we keep my
grace. If Jerome Powell, the
Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve
chief say No, it's great.
Immigration is great. It's
great. It's what we need. We got
smart ones come and they're
Chinese man. We got the smart
ones. They weren't cheap.
They're smart, they're
motivated. The coming across the
border, the clothes are clean,
their shoes are clean. They
taken an Uber. We're being
screwed. And so And here's NPR
just to back it up that the
migrant crossings are down
because the money is drying up
John C Dvorak: the number of
migrants trying to cross the US
Mexico border went down by 50%
in January sounds like a pretty
significant drop. Why did that
happen? It
Unknown: is a pretty steep dip.
I mean for context in December,
authorities encountered over
249,000 migrants crossing the
border unauthorized. That's the
highest monthly total ever
recorded. According to
preliminary statistics by the
Department of Homeland Security
in January they encountered over
124,000 Why is that border
crossings are very cyclical in
January is a slow month because
of weather. But think about
what's been going on in the US
in the last few months. All
these really heated arguments
about the need to increase
border enforcement and
deportations. I spoke to Adam
Isakson from the Washington
office on Latin America about
how that sparked rumors that the
US was closing down its border.
Adam Curry: Migrants for this is
a lie. By the way, this is the
National Public Radio lie. It's
because the money is not being
passed without the money. All
these groups can operate. But
okay, let's just say oh, yeah,
oh, people are scared because
Oh, things are weird. And
Washington, wildly
Unknown: busy. They know that
something was going to happen at
the end of December, then you
had to get in before the end of
the year. That's the budget end.
It's a combination of word of
mouth, and also some messaging
from smugglers saying, Go now go
now be my customer now. So
basically, it led to a let's get
ahead of this and run in
December, and then a drop in
January.
Was there any change in US
enforcement on the border that
could have led to it? Well,
Homeland Security Secretary
Alejandro Mayorkas has said
border enforcement agents didn't
have the funding to secure the
border in the month of December.
So that's why you saw such high
numbers. Congress has failed to
provide additional funding for
major changes in border
enforcement and money
Adam Curry: for these
organizations.
Unknown: So what we're seeing
again, is seasonal dips, rumors
of a border shut down and some
more enforcement in Mexico. Also
the Biden administration
restarted deportation flights
back to Venezuela and other
countries which have sent a
message
Adam Curry: remember that
there's a global appeal going on
by Amy Pope for the IOM complex
Unknown: situations are driving
higher levels of migration all
over the world. They are
delivering new challenges that
test our existing ways of
working and require a much more
strategic approach in both the
short term and the long term. It
brings us to a critical moment,
not just for IOM or our member
states, but for the people that
we serve. For those who have
moved for those who are going to
move or those who will be on the
move in the future. The world is
increasingly relying on IOM, and
our budget has grown but the
need for our help has grown even
faster.
Adam Curry: So MC send us money
$7.9 billion she needs and then
this okay, well, we don't have
them coming in from the border.
So according to The Washington
Post WaPo DHS is planning a mass
release of illegals. quintain
poor workers. But what to be
cheap to be cheap here. The
Washington Post supports the US
Immigration and Customs
Enforcement has drafted plans to
release 1000s of immigrants and
slash its capacity to hold
detainees after the failure of a
Senate border bill that would
have you raised $700 million of
budget shortfall. They're out of
money. I mean that and
meanwhile, we're making our kids
trans we're giving them cereal
that is killing them. Making
them not work the sex organs
aren't working and when and
they're all afraid of climate
change. So this is what you get
we have about nine months until
the election people should start
making babies really quick. It's
good to have people this
John C Dvorak: brings me to a
kind of a propagandist good news
clip which I early no it this
was part of I was I had it was a
decision making process as to
what clip I was gonna play at
the end. Okay. Okay, but this
one has to do with what you were
talking about now and I think
it's the time to play it because
it's not that great of a clip
anyway. Just the longer of the
two all right. I want to this is
the Haitian immigrant This is a
proper I looked at this clip and
I said this is a kind of a piece
of propaganda where a woman in
Brookline is and among others as
being encouraged to take in
immigrants this is like a thing
that's going to be pushed this
is my thought on this is going
to be pushed take in an
immigrant in this case she could
take in she took in a Haitian
family, who now is their
servants be servants. cooks for
Oh
Adam Curry: wait, I think I'm
gonna get in on this action. I'm
loving I'm liking this look
after the dog walk the dog.
Yeah, dog.
John C Dvorak: I think there's
an element of slavery involved
here. That's looks like it's
good. Humanitarian. Humanitarian
slavery is the only way I can
describe it. Here we go.
Unknown: She felt bad as any
mother would. Now things are
looking much brighter as they've
been welcomed into Lisa Helen.
and brands Brookline apartment
to Nina is Moy. Leg re ora
Sullivan, and now Manyana
Eileen. She says her daughter is
very happy when she wakes up in
the morning she says, Hi, Lisa,
and everyone starts the day
smiling.
It's white, and it's really fun
having them. What I realized is
there's so much prejudice
against refugees, mostly because
people don't know them. Lisa
says she feels like she has her
own personal chef as well. Don
de loves cooking. Basilan says
Cincy in fact, her goal is to
open up her own restaurant can
open any food food store and the
couple has their work permits.
And they've been taking English
classes Jul
John C Dvorak: phokeethra, who
said well, Nami, dinero pasa
they're open
Unknown: to work anywhere to
save money for their future. In
the meantime, they're enjoying
their time with Lisa, their new
friend for life, and their
daughter's new grandmother.
So what they are hardworking,
they want to learn they want to
be successful. And I feel great
helping and I get to understand
the refugee crisis from the
inside. Lisa
says she's so impressed by the
number of people she's met right
here at Brookline townhall
meetings who've been stepping up
and hosting families. She's
hopeful more will do the same in
the coming days and weeks. in
Brookline, Erin Logan, NBC 10
Boston.
All right, the need for more
migrant shelters in
Massachusetts is something we've
been following really closely.
You can find more information
about this and find out how you
can actually help on our
website, NBC 10 boston.com. Good
news. Good news. Good news. Good
news. Good news. Well,
Adam Curry: I think okay, I
think that they should put into
the night, here's how you get
the bill passed. Mike Johnson,
you put in there that you will
pay me as an American citizen to
take in one of these families to
be my servants. Now you've got a
plan. I got some nice. When
would
John C Dvorak: you have to?
What, what amount of money would
it take for you to do the to do
that? Oh, not much. To say it's
a family. husband, wife and two
kids? No, no,
Adam Curry: no, no. The kids. I
don't want kids. I can only have
husband. Why have any kid no
kids, husband and wife. And you
know, she can cook and clean and
he can stand guard or garden
with a Oh can garden in San Jose
with an AR 15 and garden a
little bit? Yeah, keep the other
immigrants away. Walk The Dog,
you know, mark the duck keep the
immigrants like this, you know.
So?
John C Dvorak: Again, I asked
the question, how much wood
would it take?
Adam Curry: How much? Look? Come
John C Dvorak: on. Give me a
number.
Adam Curry: I'll take the
5050 500 a month. That's
reasonable. Yeah, I think is
very reasonable. Yeah. And I'll
be helping out society. Yeah.
And I'll be learning about the
immigrant crisis from the
inside.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly.
And you learn a little Spanish
learns. By the way, I thought
the Haitians always spoke
French.
Adam Curry: She was speaking
French. She wasn't speaking
Spanish. She wasn't a French
I've ever heard. It was. It was
a finish. It was kind of in
between. But it Haitians, they
didn't make it. They kind of
have the same kitchen as
Jamaicans. So they got like jerk
chicken and stuff. Yeah, they
probably make terrific food. My
bed is great. Now, this would be
fantastic. Well, well, that's,
that would solve the crisis now
and now their kids. I mean, they
just have to leave me in Haiti.
Can't bring them over here. This
is the thinking. I think you're
onto something. There is an
element of slavery going on
here. Yes, totally. But again,
the bankers, the true owners,
and you know, if you look at the
IMF, yeah, there's credits that
each country gives, but it's
institutions. And it's big
banks, and it's big money. And
they lend out and they lend out
to all these poor countries. And
if you don't pay, you know, you
pay back Oh, you gotta pay Oh,
you got up austerity. So they
like controlling everything. And
they like to have control over
where people live and where the
money goes. And so that's why
they're encouraging this, this
immigration into America and
into Europe. Otherwise, they
know that they you know, there's
no more children being it's just
not enough. This is what the
former New York banker told me,
We beat China, because our
population is growing is so
good, that they're sending their
healthy military aged men to us.
Because a few bits is the start.
It's the beginning. That's
what's going on. It's nothing
else. It's not like they're
going to it's not going to spies
and I take over the country from
the inside. No, it's great here.
We just need people who can work
who want to work cheap.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and they
don't expect $100,000 a year you
right out of high school.
Adam Curry: Exactly. And these
people, they don't want to be
influencers. They don't want to
be YouTubers an influencer,
these people don't want to do
that. That's what's going on.
That is the reality of our world
people. And you know what? That
problem is, we get such hardened
hearts by what's going on and we
have no compassion. This at
least is compassionate. Well,
we're talking
John C Dvorak: about compassion.
I have I have a new series of
clips called crap collection.
Adam Curry: Oh, we need a jingle
for that. Yeah, somebody
John C Dvorak: should come up
with that.
Adam Curry: Okay, Crap. Crap
collection. All right.
John C Dvorak: I have two clips
for today's collection. Oh,
good. They're just pathetic.
I've said this before about Drew
Barrymore. I think she's a
phony. Don't like her show.
She's too much you actually
watch the show. I catch it once
in a while and I before it by
county freeze in time, my jaw
drops and I can't get to the set
to turn it off fast enough to
hear this was fun around the
internet this clip when
Adam Curry: I Wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait and toss to it
properly.
John C Dvorak: I'm doing what I
I didn't, weren't? Yeah. She's
with Michelle Obama. Oh, big
mind. She's got Michelle's new
book in her hands. And I don't
know what the books about it.
This could be an old clip when
Michelle first came out with
another book, but I don't know.
But this is the kind of thing
that bugs me about Drew
Barrymore. She's full of crap
full of herself. She's too much.
Unknown: But when I was reading
this book at night, and coming
home from work, which we take
with us, so anyone who
compartmentalizes you know,
personal and professional, my
hat's off to you, because
usually it bleeds all together
for me and I would hold your
book to my chest at night. And I
would wish that I was in your
family that you were my mom or
my sister and I I feel like
everybody feels like that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
she does. Remember the Dylan
Mulvaney. And she got it. All
very well,
John C Dvorak: you veiny she's
on her knees to Dylan. Oh,
Adam Curry: you're so wonderful
as a girl. And so the other
John C Dvorak: crap clip I have
for today is this one, I think
came up from it. Somebody posted
this somewhere. I didn't get it
from the show. Because I don't
really watch Stephen Colbert
that much. But this is Stephen.
This is an example. This is
beyond Trump derangement
syndrome. This is a person who
needs needs serious help. Yeah.
Just jumping the gun you want me
to get through these clips? Here
we go play.
Unknown: I know. I know how numb
we've become. But it's not
normal. No other candidates for
the presidency has ever had to
pause this campaign to defend
themselves in multiple courts.
And I would like to point out
that in all seven of his cases,
no one no one doubts that he did
these things are just sitting
around patiently waiting to find
out if the wheels of justice
will grind fast enough for there
to be any consequences. And the
media is covering it like as any
other political story like it's
all horse race. Wow.
Adam Curry: Steven. Steven spun
up called bear. Wow. That's not
fun. He's not funny. Well, I
John C Dvorak: lost it.
Adam Curry: I have some crap
clips if you're gonna do that. I
mean, yes, I
John C Dvorak: was. I love crap
clip. Just
Adam Curry: CNN this morning. S.
E. Cupp haven't heard from her
in a while. This is a
Unknown: really amazing trick
that Donald Trump managed to
pull off. First, he managed to
get conservatives to stop caring
about conservatism. Then he got
Christians to stop caring about
like Scripture, the Bible, what
would Jesus do now? Jesus is
Whoa,
Adam Curry: whoa, hold on a
second. I missed the memo. Jesus
is woke. Alright, so you
Unknown: got Republicans and
Americans to stop caring about
America and what democracy
should mean she talking Trump
since he got, you know, the
patriotic, you know, military
loving, far right to stop caring
about national security and
caring about our servicemen and
women, our troops. I mean, it's
it's a feat. What Donald Trump
has done to the right in this
country in a very short period
of time.
Adam Curry: Is is amazing.
John C Dvorak: What is she
talking about? A
Adam Curry: feat a feat? I think
she's talking about this clip
from NBC about feet.
Unknown: Donald Trump out of the
courthouse and back on the road
tonight. Big crowd appearing at
sneaker con in Philadelphia.
We're going to remember the
young people and we're going to
remember sneaker con, your stick
Go ahead. Less
than 24 hours after a New York
judge ordered Trump and his
company to pay more than $350
million in damages for years of
fraudulent business practices
and lying about the value of his
properties. The former president
took today to promote a money
making deal, having struck a
naming rights agreement for a
limited edition sneaker line,
the most expensive pair in the
series selling for $399 That's
the real deal.
That's the real deal.
Adam Curry: There's never a
report about Air Jordans.
Costing five $600 Ba No Trump
he's at sneaker con. No less.
This guy knows how to market
sneaker con. We need sneakers no
agenda shop we need sneakers. No
agenda sneakers? Yeah, we should
have sneakers. One of the kids
love it. They buy him they trade
him was great. No agenda
sneakers? I don't think
John C Dvorak: yes, yeah. They
have a new value. We're gonna
finish your thought and I have
there's a cure for some cancer.
Adam Curry: So I was not ready
to go to cancer. I was I was
going to stay with Trump for a
moment.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have the
three by three if you want to do
Trump's the you have stupid York
case. Oh,
Adam Curry: you got funny
Willis.
John C Dvorak: No, no, this is
the New York case where he got
fined $350 million. Well let me
he's broke let me get a few
final guys breeze broke. So
let's find the three to 50 me
let me do the
Adam Curry: funny Willis first
because that's funny. That's
just fun. And I don't have any
John C Dvorak: funny by way when
it become funny. Where's the W?
Adam Curry: Because Fannie
doesn't sound right and it sound
does and the BBC can't say
Fannie Yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: a comment I can
make right there. That would be
quite offensive.
Adam Curry: We know that an in
Britain Fanny is is not a word.
You could say on the on the
radio buttocks? No, not no. In
England Fanny is Valjean. Is
that right? Yes, the vagina is
Fanny in in England. I know.
Those guys are very confused.
Just so you know. You got it
wrong Brits. It's the wrong side
just saying. So this is Anderson
three Cooper with Tom Foreman.
Unknown: A stunning and fiery
day in court. County District
Attorney Fani Willis took the
stand to defend herself and her
case
to confuse you think I'm on
trial. These people are on trial
for trying to steal an election
in 2020. In
one explosive exchange after
another, she explained her
romantic relationship with the
prosecutor she hired to lead the
election fraud case. And she
tore into the legal team around
former President Trump and his
allies
is highly offensive when someone
lies on you. And it's highly
offensive when they implicate
that you slept with somebody the
first day you met with him and I
take exception to
at issue in the hearing were two
key questions. First, when did
her romantic relationship with
special prosecutor Nathan Wade
begin?
Let's be clear. 2022 was the
start of any intimate, sexual
relationship with a district
attorney.
While Wade testified that the
Romans started when the
investigation of Trump and his
co defendants was well underway.
A one time mutual friend Robin
URI insisted it started way back
in 2019.
Adam Curry: Did you observe them
do things that are
Unknown: common among people
having a romantic
relationship? Yes, such as Can
you give us an example?
Hugging kissing this objection,
Will is his take at that time
she and Wade were friends
nothing more. And as for that
contrary testimony,
I had not spoken to Robin in
over a year. I certainly do not
consider her a friend now.
Adam Curry: Now I want to remind
now, I want to remind everybody
that Mo said mo thermofax. He
said, This is happening with
black women across the board.
They put them in it was Dei, you
get the position now you gotta
prove it. And otherwise you're
all out. You're all going to be
taken down and this is the
destruction of a black woman in
public. Because Trump can't be
taken down. She is going to be
the fall guy for this. It'll be
her fault. And everyone just
say, Oh, the black lady did that
is most position and I think
he's right. What and I have
another clip. When I'm surprised
by the I think it's in this clip
He keeps talking about Team
Trump. Is it Trump's lawyers who
are isn't this isn't this a a
case about a marriage isn't this
a divorce proceeding.
John C Dvorak: There's two
proceedings going on this
particular proceeding and it's
not Trump was one of the CO
defendants that brought this
forward. And then did did the
other case, which is the divorce
case, brought out the documents
that were necessary to write
this. Yeah. So there's a
combination of things going on
here and Trump's really not the
one involved but the way she
sees everything's Trump's,
Unknown: but it's also the way
Anderson 360 with Tom Foreman
sees it. The second key
question, did the district
attorney financially benefit by
choosing her romantic partner to
lead the election fraud case?
Team Trump came in saying
weighed us money from that
appointment to take Willis on
trips to California or Aruba,
Belize, the Bahamas and more.
But hold on, Wade said Willis
paid him back in cash for all
that travel alleges
that our travel was split
roughly evenly a line
he held even as Team Trump
drilled in
I'm sure you probably have the
deposit slips, where you took
the cash and deposited the cash
in your account.
You did not deposit the cash in
America, you don't have
a single solitary deposit slip
to corroborate or support any of
your allegations that you were
paid by Mrs. Willis in cash.
Do you know Sir, not a single
solitary one no matter what. And
Willis was right there with him
dismissing the claims of
financial shenanigans. I mean,
I paid for the hotel, I paid for
the flights. I had a birthday
luncheon for him. I paid for
massages, I paid for everything.
And as for always repaying and
many of my house, you have money
in your house, so I was there.
When you meet my father, he was
known to you as a woman. You
should always have, which I
don't have so let's don't tell
him that. You should have at
least six months in cash at your
house at all times.
She also batted down questions
about sensitive personal matters
to characterization
emasculate a black man, but I'm
just telling you, I'm sorry,
what? I'm not going to eat mask
you late. A black man. Did you
understand that?
And slapped away so much of what
team? Trump said. No, no, no,
no,
this is true.
Adam Curry: It is a lie. Man,
she's talking about oh,
sometimes I have $9,000 in cash.
Unknown: Yes. She sounds like a
drug dealer.
Adam Curry: And it's fungible. I
had it from my campaign.
John C Dvorak: She's She, as you
remember, you played a clip?
Just a short out of the blue
clip where she said she skimmed
money from her campaign. Yeah.
And did none of the media has
picked this up or said anything
about it. This is a violation.
You can do your campaign. Money
is not something you can just
pocket.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's
sad because this is this is the
this is the end of the road for
Dei. This is how it ends. You
gotta Yes, optimist.
John C Dvorak: You and me both
know
Adam Curry: what I'm, it's, it's
sad for these high profile, high
profile black women. And we'll
see more of this. Then they're
the same people whose Oh, no.
Oh, yes. We gotta have a black
woman on the Supreme Court got a
black woman here black woman, a
black, black black woman, black
woman. Now it's like the black
lady did it. That's what's
happening here. But she
John C Dvorak: brought it on
herself. And you saw it with
some sympathy for her
Adam Curry: Sunday. Halston the
same way who gets taken down? To
Yes, this is my point. He's,
John C Dvorak: she was deluded.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Wow. But this
is what's happening. I'm just
saying that Sonny
John C Dvorak: Hoskins is going
nowhere. She tells a big you
know, a good salary working at
the view. Yeah, I think that
that will pick and now lord it
over her. That's right.
Adam Curry: That's right. We're
watching the old cheers episode.
I keep looking at Ted Danson
thinking really, man. Remember,
remember he did he didn't
married you? They were dating?
John C Dvorak: No, no, it did.
They broke up right after he
came into the party with
blackface. That's right.
Adam Curry: Forgot about that.
John C Dvorak: Genius, genius.
But that's one way to break up
with with Whoopi.
Adam Curry: So we can do I have
a quick three parter on from NPR
which is very NPR ish about the
tech companies in AI. And then
we then we could do three by
three or three by three first,
whatever you want.
John C Dvorak: Three by we don't
even does three by three is a
minor? A minor one except that.
I'm always amused by the fact
that nobody wants to none of the
mainstream media wants to
discuss the fact that most of
this case in New York is fraud
case. It didn't defraud anybody.
Nobody brought the case forward.
That's great. And the biggest
element of it was the what they
consider a mis statement of the
value of Mara Lago
Adam Curry: which is in Florida,
which is in Florida,
John C Dvorak: which is got
nothing to do with anything but
it has to do with his business
doing dealings in New York. And
he says Mar a Lago, which is a
monstrous facility in Palm Beach
is worth one point something
billion, and the judge refuses
to accept that because it's
really high. It's worth 18
million which is like as a house
in San Francisco. And so I'm
thinking this three by three
would be interesting to see if
we can spot somebody actually
bringing that up. All right, was
done.
Adam Curry: Everybody was better
I meant by a long running
experiment comparing stories
from the scenes up.
Unknown: The never ending
Adam Curry: after three big
networks plus, is there a plus?
Yes, yes, you have a plus you've
got Turkish radio and television
plussing today, looks like your
T TR T All right, let's listen
to the NAT pops the human pops.
Let's see how it goes. As we
compare the big machine of News,
ABC
Unknown: tonight's rolling
strikes at the heart of Donald
Trump's image carefully crafted
for decades, the former
president fined a staggering
$355 million and banned from
doing business for three years
in New York, the city where he
built his fortune and made his
name the judge determining Trump
flagrantly overvalued his
signature properties in order to
get favorable bank loans and
insurance rates, things everyday
Americans would never get away
with.
They have authored the art of
the deal. But he perfected the
art of the steal. Oh,
Adam Curry: whoa, I hope
everyone had that, quote.
Unknown: The court once again,
ruled in our favor, and in favor
of every hardworking American
who plays by the rules. The
most high profile examples of
fraud the Trump Tower penthouse
the Trump Organization inflated
its value by some $200 million
to clearing it was 30,000 square
feet. But Trump signed a
document certifying it's a third
that size 11,000 square feet.
And while Trump claimed his Mar
a Lago resort was worth up to
$600 million. It's true assessed
value was no more than 27
million. Today judge Arthur and
Gore in writing Trump's complete
lack of contrition and remorse
borders on pathological calling
Trump incapable of admitting the
error of his ways. The former
President attended 10 days of
the trial. Trial is ridiculous.
And on the witness stand he
attacked judge and gore into his
face complaining This is a very
unfair trial. I hope the public
is watching. It is ruling today
the judge knocked Trump's
testimony for long irrelevant
speeches, adding his refusal to
answer the questions directly or
in some cases at all severely
compromised his credibility.
Moments ago Trump lashing out
a sad day for lashing out in the
country. A crooked New York
state judge just ruled that I
have to pay a fine of $355
million for having built the
perfect company. Great cash,
great buildings great everything
Adam Curry: question when so
this of course goes to appeal
which is just because cost more
money. Does he have to pay the
fine right away? Okay, does it
wait until?
John C Dvorak: Of course not.
All
Adam Curry: right. All right. So
John C Dvorak: it's just
stalled.
Adam Curry: So this is another
black woman who was pushed to
the forefront. This Leticia
Leticia James, she's she's going
to take the fall for this too.
You can see it coming down Main
Street
John C Dvorak: where she is very
cocky. So let's go to NBC.
Unknown: Tonight a crushing blow
to the Trump family's real
estate empire. A judge in New
York handing down a more than
$350 million civil penalty
against Donald Trump plus
interest for lying about his
wealth for financial gain
barring him from obtaining loans
in the state for three years
banning Mr. Trump's adult sons
from running any company for two
years ordering they pay more
than $4 million
each. Today justice has been
served. Today we prove that no
one is above the law. Yeah.
The former president tonight
assailing the
Adam Curry: decision was above
the law. The Chinese were coming
in over the border. They're
above the law that was above the
law,
Unknown: and slamming the suit
brought by New York's democratic
Attorney General.
These are radical left
Democrats. They're lunatics. And
it's election interference. If I
weren't running, none of this
stuff would have ever happened
with no jury at trial, the
ruling left solely in the hands
of Judge Arthur and Goren who
decided the heart of the state's
fraud case months ago, finding
the Trump family wrongly
exaggerated the value of some of
its most iconic properties on
financial statements to receive
better deals. On bank loans.
This trial was to sort out the
penalty. Mr. Trump and his adult
children all took the witness
stand in the hopes of Fending
off a decision with massive
consequences for their real
estate portfolio and family
legacy.
I became president because of
the brand, Mr.
Trump's defense team arguing
there was no victim. The banks
were repaid and testified they
did not rely on Mr. Trump's
valuations. The former
president's attorneys had
implored the judge not to impose
a fine, akin to the corporate
death penalty. But today the
judge writing quote, Donald
Trump is not Bernie Madoff, yet
defendants are incapable of
admitting the error of their
ways. Instead, they adopt a See
no evil, hear no evil speak no
evil posture, that the evidence
belies I thought that they they
literally
Adam Curry: compared them to
Bernie. Bernie Madoff in a
different stage. I thought I
heard that.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that either. Yeah, I thought it
was. Well, if you can find it
Adam Curry: made off. Yeah, no,
listen, listen to this. Ma.
Listen to this. Hold on a sec. I
Unknown: was sitting in court,
and we were just leaving.
Everything was wrapping up.
MSNBC, worrying right at the
end, the Attorney General had
wrapped up their arguments and
judge and Goren had one
question. And he looked at the
lawyer for the Attorney General
and he says, How does this case
compare to Bernie made off? Ah,
wow. And I went, Wow,
he literally he literally did
that.
John C Dvorak: pretty poor
reporting.
Adam Curry: What, from an NBC
product. I'm surprised these
clips are too long. These are
all almost two minutes.
John C Dvorak: I mean, yes.
Well, I am going to rebuke the
Jones The Jones Jones boys for
two clips that are too long,
especially for
Adam Curry: a three by three.
It's just too long and there is
CBS the best one your
John C Dvorak: heart to cut down
a Yeah, yeah, but let's listen
to the last two and then we'll
be done.
Unknown: Thank you very much
tonight
potentially crushing blow to
Donald Trump's business empire
and bank account. The former
president ordered to pay more
than $350 million and banned
from running a business in New
York or applying for loans in
the state for three years. His
two sons each fined $4 million
and barred from doing business
in New York for two years.
thrusting the leadership of the
family company into Peril being
prohibited from doing business
in your home state or the state
where you have so many
properties and so many business
activities is an absolutely
devastating sanction. Trump
lawyer Alina haba, called the
verdict a manifest injustice and
said an appeal battle is coming.
The former president reacted
late today
it's a very sad day for in my
opinion, the country a meanings.
Adam Curry: Okay. I don't know
why. Or I guess is this the only
statement he made because he
made a statement in a hallway
The acoustics are bad. It's just
not good. It's not good. He
needs to do better making on the
statements.
Unknown: York state judge just
ruled and he's crooked as you
can get. A lot of people
expected something like this,
but not for the amount
in his ruling judge.
John C Dvorak: It less that was
edited. Trump's comment the way
he said it was the judge ruled
that he was as crooked Kim get
Adam Curry: very funny. Oh,
that's interesting. The former
Unknown: president reacted late
today.
It's a very sad day for in my
opinion, the country. A New York
state judge just ruled and he's
crooked as you can get. A lot of
people expected something like
this, but not for the amount
of us truly judge Arthur and
gore instead of Trump and the
other defendants their complete
lack of remorse, borders on
pathological.
Adam Curry: This whole thing is
very unfair. That's really
psychological. This CBS report
and now they're pulling
something from like the Barbara
Walters interview. This
Unknown: is good on Trump
himself who took the stand two
times. The judge said his
refusal to answer the questions
directly, or in some cases at
all severely compromised his
credibility. Judge and Gordon
had already ruled that Trump and
his sons and company executives
committed years of business
fraud fraudulently inflating
their assets to boost the former
president's net worth, including
his Trump Tower penthouse in Mar
a Lago exaggerating its value by
as much as 20 300%. Today's
penalty caps a three month trial
in a lawsuit brought by New York
Attorney General Letitia James,
the scale and the scope of
Donald Trump's fraud is
staggering. And so to his his
ego and his belief that the
rules do not apply To him
Adam Curry: she'd been watching
billions too much she thinks
she's Chuck. Chuck now from from
billions. Attorney General.
John C Dvorak: Well, you did
catch her the weakness of all
these reports, which is the only
ABC use that quote where she
says his art of the deal is the
art of the steel. Yeah. Which
which was a good, good catch,
but none of the other networks
played it. So let's play the
Turkish internationals. This
shows you that the international
media just as bad as
Adam Curry: on board with him.
Unknown: He's a leading
presidential candidate for the
Republican Party. But Donald
Trump's campaigning schedule has
taken a backseat to courtroom
appearances
Adam Curry: as was intended and
legal
Unknown: challenges.
He claims the cases are
politically motivated. These are
corrupt people. And they're
using this as weaponization
against a political opponent
who's
up a lot in the polls, and
always will be. On Friday, a New
York judge ordered Donald Trump
pay $355 million in penalties
for defrauding lenders for more
than a decade.
Adam Curry: I don't think I
heard a single one of the three
OG three by threes mentioning
that this will be up for appeal
that anyone even mentioned that.
John C Dvorak: Not in these, but
I've heard it I know. But that's
the whole point is Jay, you'd
think he would mention instead
of conclude that he's out 350
million Exactly.
Unknown: The former president
has also been banned from doing
business in New York for three
years. His sons and CO
defendants were also hit with
fines and two year bans on doing
business in the state. But the
judge stopped short of canceling
Trump's business licenses, which
some say could have ended his
business empire Empire massive
penalty is the result of a civil
lawsuit brought by New York's
Attorney General
justice has been served. Today
we prove that no one is above
the law. No matter how rich,
powerful or politically
connected you are every one must
play by the same
rules. Prosecutors
say he lied about the value of
his assets like a Trump Tower
apartment reported at nearly
three times its actual size.
Trump has denied any wrongdoing.
He's a radical left Democrats.
They're lunatics. And it's
election interfering. So I just
want to thank you for being
here. Will appeal will be
successful. Oh, there it is. The
civil fraud case could deal a
major blow to Trump's real
estate empire.
He comes after he was ordered to
pay just over $83 million. In a
separate defamation case.
Adam Curry: It's just filling
time at this point. That's all
they're doing. Just filling time
there. I've got some Trump news.
Yeah, all it does is just put
Trump on the front. He's
everyone wants him to be
president. Everybody wants him
in there. Except NATO. But even
NATO like okay, okay, we'll pay
the 2%. Just let us do.
John C Dvorak: I think this is
something that nobody else has
caught. I'll give you this one.
Which is the idea that he makes
a big fuss at NATO to make sure
everybody catches up with their
dues now pay their fair share
for you guys. It's just more
money.
Adam Curry: And, you know,
obviously, that's more money for
us, and I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna let you the
Russians attack if you don't
pay.
Adam Curry: That's so insane.
And you know, and let's all run
around and post about it. A man
is crazy. Who is crazy. I have
quick three quick clips before
we take a break. By the way,
this is a value for value
program. So we'll be taking a
break where we thank people
who've supported us with value
for the value we believe we
provide. And we're certainly
been doing it for a couple of
years and people do provide
value back so there's something
in the formula that's working,
which is go out and hit people
in the mouth. NPR reported in
the only way NPR can especially
when it comes to Tech Tech. They
bring in a whole new level of of
talkers on NPR. And this is the
the agreement that detect not
technology companies who are all
in Munich have agreed to well,
we'll take action against a
deceptive AI meanwhile, buy our
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Yeah,
Unknown: more than 40 countries
are set to hold major elections
this year. And many experts
worry that rapidly evolving
artificial intelligence
technologies could disrupt those
votes just a few weeks ago and
apparent deep fake robo call
that sounded like President Joe
Biden told people not to vote
New Hampshire. Today. 20 major
tech companies announced they
are going to do their part to
avoid becoming the story.
Joining us now to talk through
this new agreement our NPR
Shannon bond who covers how
information travels and Miles
parks who covers Wait Wait,
Adam Curry: wait, she covers how
information travels.
John C Dvorak: She covers Yes,
your eat her
Adam Curry: beat is how
information travels. Isn't that
great? I want that beat Dory
that's
John C Dvorak: a good beat.
That's a great beat.
Unknown: Joining us now to talk
through this new agreement. Our
NPR Shannon bond who covers how
information travels.
Adam Curry: You have to say it
right though how information
travels in miles parks who
Unknown: covers voting Hello,
y'all. Hello, y'all.
Adam Curry: Hey, how you doing?
Hey, John. Hey, hi, hey, hi, ho.
Unknown: Hi there. I wanna
Hello, Kevin, I want to start
with you tell us about this
agreement, what's in it? What's
in it? Well, it's aimed at AI
generated images, audio and
video that could deceive voters.
So whether that's by
impersonating a candidate doing
or saying something they didn't,
or misleading people about, you
know, when or how to vote. And
the companies are agreeing to
some pretty broad commitments
here to develop technology to
watermark AI content and to
detect and label all kinds of
ways. They're pledging to be
more transparent about how their
tools and platforms are being
used. They want to educate the
public about AI. Many of these
actions are things some of these
companies are already working
on. And what's notable here. One
is that this agreement does not
outright ban this kind of
deceptive use of AI in
elections. No comedy
Adam Curry: is saved. It does
not outright ban it. No, in
fact, this is just voluntary.
Unknown: Right. Okay. Let's dig
in a little bit here. Does this
agreement
Adam Curry: actually John list?
Can we dig in here a little bit?
John C Dvorak: I'm looking
forward to it. Let's
Unknown: dig in here a little
bit.
Right. Okay. Let's
dig in a little bit here,
because this agreement actually
bind these companies to do
anything, or is this more of
like a mission statement? Yeah,
this is a voluntary agreement.
So it's not binding. And
remember, just because companies
create policies about AI,
doesn't mean they always
effectively enforce them. Now,
this agreement came together in
just the past six weeks, and in
many ways, you know, it seems
like it had to be pretty broad
to get this many companies to
agree. We spoke with Microsoft
President Brad Smith today. He
didn't
Adam Curry: Brad What didn't he
run the Xbox division? Brad
Smith? Was he the game I
John C Dvorak: forgot his
history. He
Adam Curry: was. He's been he's
been there for a while. Let's
talk to the billionaire at
Microsoft spoke with Microsoft
Unknown: President Brad Smith
today. He said that unity itself
is an accomplishment. We
all want to need to innovate. We
want to need to compete with
each other. But it's also just
indispensable, that we
acknowledge and address the
problems that are very real,
including to democracy.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's a problem
for democracy. Oh, Bret, save us
Unknown: indeed. And even as
these companies including
Microsoft are saying you know,
they're on guard over risks of
AI. They're also continuing to
roll out even more advanced
technology like just yesterday
open AI one of the other
companies that signed this
agreement, they announced this
tool that allows you to type in
a simple text description to
create a really realistic high
definition video
Adam Curry: of us as Golden
Retrievers podcasting on a snowy
mountain but
John C Dvorak: a somebody sent
me a link to this it's Oh keep
referring to
Adam Curry: I'm shoving into
your face I can't believe you
haven't seen this. The final
clip justifies me once more,
walk us
Unknown: through a few cans I
got some of those scenarios.
Yeah, I asked Smith from
Microsoft
about this and he said
specifically, he's worried about
people using AI to dub over real
videos with fake audio that
could be a lot more convincing
to people than creating a whole
new video but there's also a
bigger picture worry that I
heard percolating at this
conference last week that as
more fake stuff is swirling
online the public will slowly
lose trust in all information.
That's the hardest aspects of
this record. The tech companies
say they want the public to be
more skeptical of what they see
online but that can lead to this
feeling among people that
nothing is true or real and bad
Adam Curry: accurate no agenda
Listen now and stop talking over
it you just don't want to hear
how right I am once again is
Unknown: true or real and bad
actors can capitalize on that
too. But then being able to
claim that real information is
fake it's called the liars
dividend there was more AI
generated stuff floating around
it's just gonna become more and
more common that candidates when
real bad information comes out
at about them they can just say
no that's
John C Dvorak: baloney laughs
because what was the last what
was the left tell for because
Adam Curry: he's it's too big
what he's laughing about is hey,
if I if I laugh now John will
talk over the punch line
John C Dvorak: no more he's
laugh for some reason it will
Adam Curry: listen the maybe
you'll find out both
Unknown: the liars dividend with
more AI generated stuff floating
around it's just gonna become
more and more common that
candidates when reveal bad
information comes out at about
them. They can just say no,
that's that's fake. That's AI
generated because that's
Adam Curry: exactly what we've
been saying. That's exactly
what's gonna happen. That's why
he's laughing about it. Oh,
yeah. When when bad stuff comes
out. Just say it's AI. They all
know it. They're all in on it
and the tech companies just
agreed to it. That's okay.
John C Dvorak: That's gonna stop
us deconstructing the Real News?
Yeah, that's correct.
Adam Curry: If you want your
deconstruction you're at the
right place. And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea in
korma quat. Ladies, gentlemen,
say hello to My friend on the
other end the one and only Mr.
Jobs
John C Dvorak: really you Mr.
and Karina, more chips you both
have graphene here so there's no
word doomsday sat there
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the trolls in the troll room let
me count oh well, we have one
more than last Sunday, last
Sunday 2045 Today 2046 Trolls
listening in live,
John C Dvorak: run a roll,
Adam Curry: which we call that
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Now with AI it's going to be
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Adam Curry: you're the one that
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John C Dvorak: I guess they did
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Adam Curry: belts racist but you
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John C Dvorak: I agree.
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Adam Curry: Isn't because
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Adam Curry: I'd like to bid
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Adam Curry: I'd like to bid
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I know sir Libra is a big
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Tuesday. Let's this is the value
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Adam Curry: That's what we just
did. That's Dame Jennifer. By
the way. Did you not know that?
John C Dvorak: I did not know
that we would again.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
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John C Dvorak: there was one.
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David, good to hear from you,
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after this, I want to play a
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
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John C Dvorak: This is the bonus
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specific cancer. And
Adam Curry: what would the title
be of this clip? Probably cancer
cure for cancer? No, it's BJU
cancer with a b
John C Dvorak: Okay. Oh, B
cancer
Unknown: and the Food and Drug
Administration has approved a
novel cancer treatment to tackle
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Adam Curry: Wow. Get that our
Medicare wow that's a good clip.
By the way it is Cosina. Roses
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pronounced it means pigs
something told you was not not
it was not good. All right.
Well, thank you for that. Then
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switcheroo switcheroo for
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birth to our first human
resource on 1124 Please de Deus,
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Unknown: Ben de douche Welcome
Adam Curry: to Gitmo nation,
Calvin Wyatt. He's heard every
show since March 23, including
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out to all the flat Moon
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one. I got to join that group.
Sounds like fun flat Moon is a
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John C Dvorak: Why don't you get
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Adam Curry: coffee guy
Bensenville Illinois. We know
Eli the coffee guy because he's
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good stuff. The job's karma
work. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we can tell.
Thanks.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's working
very well. Thanks to the power
of Pelosi, we found a great new
team member. This donation goes
towards the dame hood of my
wife, Jen, Dame name to be
determined. Well, when she's
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stay caffeinated. And we thank
you very much. I could use some
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Adam Curry: harmonica and that
concludes our credits for the
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That's maybe we're a phone. Adam
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Adam Curry: Hold on. Where's the
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Adam Curry: degrees this
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Yes, we're dripper James
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Adam Curry: let me let me read
this because I know who this is.
I don't know Jonas, but it's the
first time donation and
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hit me in the mouth and
introduces introduced this
amazing podcast, so it's time to
repay please de du chemin. de
Deus is an amazing guy.
John C Dvorak: Man now we have
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Adam Curry: And again, thank you
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I forgot something. What I'm
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Unknown: is this. People in the
mouth I knew I did something
wrong.
Adam Curry: Do you make coffee?
No, it's not. No coffee feels
better.
Salah Howser turn 33 on February
7, we congratulate him also sir
dude named Ralph. On Valentine's
Day the 14th and Jonas Baluchis
says Happy Birthday to Adobe das
go Bina go bina 30 to some day
and Dana nice. Also celebrate
today except she turns 59 Happy
birthday for everybody. Here's
the best podcast in the universe
Unknown: don't want to be
induced.
Adam Curry: I know it's a slow
day and we don't have any days
or nights but we do have the
title upgrade title change, sir
dude named Ralph who came in as
our top producer today becomes a
byte count and we appreciate his
support of the best podcast and
universe Thank you very much sir
dude named Ralph now by Count no
one said
we had such a such a long list
for all of those meetups that we
have a number of reports that
came in the first one is written
from beach girl. This is the
Connecticut meet up report from
the from February Adam and John
and Morning Report and a
picture. She sent two pictures
actually one from the I think
December meet up and the most
recent one nice looking group.
This was on the 17th we had
about 17 attendees on a snowy
Connecticut day which is great.
Great Time, pizza beer and
drinks were flowing. This is a
great group of people to hang
out with on a bi monthly basis
to have open minded
conversations. I don't feel
judged when I say no, I don't
listen to Taylor Swift. Cheap
This is where you can do it a
meet up this is good stuff.
There's always something new to
learn at these meetups were a
fun group and welcome no agenda
listeners from surrounding
states to attend. Yes, the tri
state area thank you for your
courage all the best for beach
girl. Thank you beach girl. And
thank you for organizing that
meetup where you always get
protection from the no agenda
meetup connection. Hey, this
Unknown: is Kristen we're at
docks and there's a pizza with
seven slices.
Adam Curry: This is the Texas
meet up at Doc's backyard hosted
by Sir by the Baron of the arm
racer Scott
Unknown: This is Sir do suffer
ITM. I just came to celebrate my
fifth and sixth grade basketball
team's victory over the once
undefeated team in the league.
Let's go
This is Cody new to 500 in the
morning sir Mike of Georgetown.
Howdy. Howdy sir
mon talks and I from the great
state of Texas. This is running
from local 512 saying in the
morning
I have nothing to report for
this meetup. I'm hanging out
with my friends here.
Good afternoon citizens and
slaves This is Sir Chris Barrett
in the North Austin. This is
Brian was hanging out with this
is keeper Christine.
And this is Baron Scott. wishing
everybody a Happy Valentine's
day in the morning in the
Adam Curry: morning to your
brother Central Jersey at the
meet up with Sir our Daniel sir
Unknown: are Daniels here coming
at you from the Garden State
distillery in beautiful downtown
Toms River in the morning. Dave
Alcott here in the morning,
three of us were just
reminiscing about the time we
met John at sparks in the city.
Looking forward to Adam coming
to the East Coast one more time
in the morning.
In the morning. It's Paul from
Westfield lost my voice because
of the pea flower. This
is still where Pfister nuts in
Toms River in the morning.
This is Jay thank you for your
courage at the seven three to
meet up. This is Dave your
energy efficient home is
flammable in the morning. Oh
producer Joe Bobby The K is not
a knock. And finally
sir No, buddy. I got nothing
great to say but there you go.
We appreciate you guys for
everything you do. Thank you
John and Adam.
Adam Curry: Thank you, sir
Daniels Daniel's Los Angeles now
flight of the no agenda 49 Leo
Bravo hosting that one. Hey,
Unknown: everybody. It's Leo
Bravo at Nolan did the meet up
number 49. Visitors have things
to say
Hi, this is Angie from the
ranch. Wonderful in downtown LA
next to the beautiful
skyscrapers that have been
tagged in the
morning Adam and John and
Stephen King from Boxelder South
Dakota.
revolts on here's
Rob. Mouths vent heads on stick
mouth a gate or via that shuts
voted down now. Oh.
via chat via shots,
Adam Curry: fired shots. This
vid. I have no idea what those
people were smoking. It's Los
Angeles after they were smoking
something. And finally we have
the meet up for a report from
Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Unknown: Mmm John in the morning
it's the Fort Wayne reporting
and we had eight in attendance
the Ohio bloke in the morning in
the morning. In
the morning in the Morning John
and PBR street gang looking for
Zippy damn Trinity having a
great time in Fort Wayne, Mike
in Fort Wayne group having a
great time. This is Jared Hi.
Hi, Shelly from Fort Wayne.
This is Rachel we didn't find
any hairy balls here in Fort
Wayne but we did Look
Adam Curry: sir PBR street gang
calling out zip
Unknown: connection in her bag
did no agenda.
Sometimes you want to go hang
out with the Dyson days you
won't be triggered you to be
where everybody feels the same.
As if he
Adam Curry: got a little
enthusiastic there. We needed to
mention the meetups for today
the indie na tribal lingering
love fest meetup that's underway
now at St. Joseph's brewery and
public house in Indianapolis,
Indiana. Thursday, the guardians
of reality in Northern Kentucky
1130 In the morning at Velocity
bike and being in Florence,
Kentucky. And finally also on
Thursday that's the 22nd of
February the no agenda, geo
jigsaw, Singapore Sling meet up
630 That'll be in Singapore The
Prince of Wales pub in
Singapore, Singapore Jesse Coyne
Nelson. Big enough show mixer
dude. We'll be hosting that. I
hope someone shows up. He
doesn't always have like he's
done them in. What do you do? He
didn't. He always
John C Dvorak: does the weird
fights very floating around and
you find some weird places.
Besides that a meet up.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he was in
Korea. He didn't want in Korea.
He did. Didn't he do one?
Infernus
John C Dvorak: used to go to a
local bar.
Adam Curry: I think he did one
in Lebanon. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: think so to
Lebanon or X 11 was gonna Yeah,
Adam Curry: go back to Lebanon.
That was that was a fun
location. We'll see how it is
now. Brother, I suppose I
suppose
John C Dvorak: North Lebanon is
best.
Adam Curry: Okay. Yes, we're
currently North Lebanon is
better. Yes.
John C Dvorak: I have to Okay. I
have Spam. Spam.
Adam Curry: Spam, not bad, not
bad. And
John C Dvorak: then I have blah
blah, blah blah blah. Okay, we
get it.
Adam Curry: Also not bad. I have
this one. I don't think I liked
this one. We deserved to know
who's been manipulating us. They
can't even hear it. Now can't
hear it. Amazing potential. I
can't like kinda like that one.
And let's get trashed. I think
your blah blah blah is the best
one. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: think the blah
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, we get it. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: like that. Because
that's that's really awesome,
isn't it? Blah, blah. Pretty
much two dogs
John C Dvorak: on the hill. And
now it's time for Google
Adam Curry: JC and amazing
happenstance for those you
listening to this particular
episode of the no agenda show
not one but two good news clips.
John C Dvorak: This little short
one, which is I don't like him
this short. But we found it fun
and interesting anomaly. And I'm
just going to put it out there
first because it's probably a
producer too that works for one
of these stations are owned by
grey television. Okay, they own
stations all over the country.
The websites are identical. The
websites is like you see when I
kept looking at these website
maybe sent me a couple of these
things. I look at it this
website looks like the other
website but this guy's in South
Dakota and it says over here,
it's templatized its template
websites from gray televisions
and the videos don't work. It's
a piece of shit website.
Adam Curry: Hey, you're leading
into good news. Where's the
enthusiasm? Okay,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry about
that. Okay, here we go. Nice.
Great news story about a shaving
the furry little animals that
are in the ocean. This
Unknown: seal pup was rescued
Saturday at Cape Henlopen state
park right near the point. The
team at the marine education
research and rehabilitation of
myrrh says it's been responding
to a lot of recent calls for
seal pups stranding, she
Adam Curry: was then transported
to the National Aquarium in
Baltimore for further
rehabilitation. And hopefully a
release she's okay. I don't know
man. I mean, there wasn't much
of a story there. CO pub. Oh, it
has to be at least a minute and
it didn't talk about hard
John C Dvorak: yeah, you're
getting picky. Okay. It has to
be a minute we can do we can
work with
Adam Curry: it didn't target my
heart. This cute
good news there it is everybody
your good news for today. I know
I'm getting picky. But you know,
I want people to leave this show
thinking wow. I love those good.
Those guys. Great. Good news. I
feel good. I feel positive. You
understand that, don't you?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you
know, it's not as easy as it
looks. Clearly, especially when
gray television can't seem to
get a website to work. Works for
me, Mimi says. I said well, I
tried it on Chrome. I tried it
on and without a VPN with a VPN
doesn't matter that the videos
won't you
Adam Curry: need to switch to
Nick's man. It works on all
Nick's boxes I've been told. And
of show mixes Professor J.
Jones. They're in China. We got
sound guy Steve and Secret Agent
Paul, we have some dynamite
inner show mixes. And coming up
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Episode 390. Honey Honey Hole,
the title of it can't wait. And
I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
John C Dvorak: Ben from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm going
to be working on the P and the E
cores have an Intel processor.
I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll return
Adam Curry: on Thursday right
here until then, adios mofos who
ends our pick for Super Bowl
Sunday was controversial to say
the least. So we're celebrating
a bit ahead. keeps us on our
toes. And this was a but
John C Dvorak: callate pitches
but calla pinches
Adam Curry: what was wrong with
us. It's disgusting. And he was
triggering to him. said no we're
doing the but it was like a
dance. I can't wait to Listen to
this show and this was a
everyone's it's okay for Kim
Kardashian to be all over your
timeline with her calla Pina
SNESs You go girl,
John C Dvorak: big giant,
Adam Curry: but he was
triggering to him. As you said,
No, we're doing the budget.
John C Dvorak: Dance.
Adam Curry: What was wrong with
us? It's disgusting.
John C Dvorak: Khaled pigeon is
one version of the word McCallum
PJs is having shape and
buttocks. We're like you're
discussing
Adam Curry: go girl.
Unknown: She said no, we're
doing the bus.
John C Dvorak: Big giant dance.
Adam Curry: I can't wait to
listen to this show. And I said
can we do that and you went No.
We're doing the keeps us on our
toes. What was wrong with us?
Unknown: It's disgusting.
John C Dvorak: There was no it
was like a dance.
Adam Curry: Is having shapely
buttocks. You go girl tonight.
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is Vladimir Putin Ukraine.
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the Ukrainians.
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President Vladimir Putin, Russia
Ukraine. Ukraine says when it
comes to Ukraine, invading
Ukraine is a feather democracy
in Ukraine brutal invasion of
Ukraine. Lateran the Russian
offensive against Ukraine
continues Russia atrocities
President Zelensky of Ukraine. I
really hope that you are willing
to get together and can solve
your problem. That would be a
tremendous achievement. And I
know you've tried to do it you
underestimate Vladimir Putin's
intention to with his brutal
assault on Ukraine Russia.
Russian missiles continued to
rain down on the port city of
Odessa for scenes of carnage in
Ukraine is a centrally located
strategic country in your world.
Trump repeatedly asked his
Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr
Zelensky. To investigate the
former vice president, Russia's
President Vladimir Putin,
do we need to be prepared for
the continued destruction of
Ukrainians? Putin is the great
disrupter put his military is
falling apart.
There's a price to pay for peace
and democracy. Please again
my request don't trust Bucha
have no clue and you don't know
where there's fake news. Why
don't you get your get mo fix
food and all dressed up like a
million dollar true. Trying not
to look like Anderson Cooper.
Calm let's fix where John
Podesta walks with kids. I mean
pizzas in his mid boot or on the
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Blah blah blah. Okay, we get it.