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March 21st • 3h 22m

1644: Shock Opera

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Adam Curry: But no, it's China boots China.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah on
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Adam Curry: March 21 2020 For this jewel horde winning media
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assassination episode 1644. This
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Unknown: is no agenda, exposing
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Adam Curry: marketing mayhem and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country here. Reason number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley, we noticed that
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Takara Fuji lost his first match and apples getting sued on
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Genesee
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Adam Curry: Hill there it is. There it is. The Sumo report.
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Everybody's smiling. Everybody's going to want it everybody's
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happy. But what about this Apple's getting sued business
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manager heard
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John C Dvorak: that just broke this morning breaking breaking.
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Breaking
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Adam Curry: colon all uppercase break egg. I love it when people
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post a screenshot of another social network with breaking.
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John C Dvorak: The breaking,
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Adam Curry: breaking. Breaking our breaking is so crazy. It's
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like it's not breaking. It's just a news report. It's just
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the
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John C Dvorak: headlines. It's what's funny is that Fox, the
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beginning of pretty much everybody show. news breaking
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news. Breaking something's great breaking breaking.
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Adam Curry: What? What is the news is breaking what is Apple
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getting sued over over their web browser?
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John C Dvorak: Well, that wouldn't be a good idea. Yeah.
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What is it? The Justice Department's going after them
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for being a monopoly? Our government is going after a one
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of our biggest companies for being a monopoly and ruining
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their smartphone business because their phones. I'm not
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kidding. Kind of because your phone stinks. What? And it's too
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expensive women
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Adam Curry: is that the actual suit is like your phone syncs
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stinks and it's too expensive. Garland
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John C Dvorak: came up and he gave a I wish I had a clip of it
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because it just happened. It's break. When breaking is
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breaking. Went in front of the podium. It says the apple is
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monopolizing the business. They're producing a lousy
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product pretty much is what he said. Wow,
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Adam Curry: they literally invented the category didn't
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they? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, that's what
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commies do. But
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John C Dvorak: that is what happens when you're not coughing
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up enough. Oh,
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Adam Curry: that's what it is. Tim Collins cook should know
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better.
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John C Dvorak: He knows better although this may also be a ploy
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may be Tim Collins, let's say he goes to the Justice Department
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says you know wouldn't be a bad idea to sue us right now.
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predicament in China. And we just do just for you guys. And
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Adam Curry: what that's not going to help their stock price
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which is already somewhat suppressed. Would you not say
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yeah, it
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John C Dvorak: probably will not help the stock price.
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Adam Curry: Well, so that's what the algo told you today. What is
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everyone? What is your algo told you to worry about today? I've
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heard too. One is the squatters Have you followed this the
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John C Dvorak: squatters squatter stories they they're
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making this into a big mess of news story. I don't think any
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clips on it. But yes, squatters, squatters,
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Adam Curry: the illegal immigrants. I'm sorry. The
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newcomers. Newcomers and newcomers are coming Weisen are
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going to squat in your house. Now most of the stories seem to
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be coming from New York and Chicago where you probably can't
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squat in somebody's house.
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John C Dvorak: Wouldn't big story story where there's two or
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three lines here going on. One is of course the TIC tock video,
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which is I I sought by couldn't call Yes. Spanish. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: It's like, hey, hey, I look like an angry brown man.
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I'm coming to sit in your house. I'm squatting and
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John C Dvorak: he had all these clues about how you gonna squat?
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Yeah. And then there was the arrest of some woman who tried
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to go into her own house in New York. There was New York, New
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York. Yeah. They arrested her and left the squatters in place.
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Adam Curry: So in the Netherlands, squatters rights
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have been a thing for as long as I've been in when I was went to
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the country and because
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John C Dvorak: of the UK, the UK well and they call them crackers
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Adam Curry: in the in the Netherlands crackers, KR a ke RS
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crackers because they crack your house and they crack right in.
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And the only way to stop it because there is a there is a
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legal right you have a legal right if there's a house that is
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empty and that means there's no bed no table no chairs by IE a
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house that someone's trying to sell usually. Although you
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should stage it always people talk to your local real estate
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professional. Then they can go in there and they can just crack
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it and go they can they can live there. So usually people pay
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where they used to pay I think now they just say hey you would
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you'd like to Live in this mansion for 100 euros a month
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and then they throw down a mattress and a table and some
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IKEA stuff and good to go it's then It's auntie crack. So
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that's, that seems to be the it actually kind of works because
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you solve some you know some housing problem for students who
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get a dynamite pad for a while and you keep the crackers out.
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But here in Texas we have a different system. Michelle, can
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I just shoot you?
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John C Dvorak: Yes. TJ says has got the right idea. Absolutely.
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Adam Curry: But it's being played up on all the algos.
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Everybody. And this just shows how then this is not. To me,
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this is not an organic thing. This is being jacked up. This
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this is this is a tick tock algo being jacked, either people know
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who know how to do it, or by Tiktok themselves. For all I
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know. It's the
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John C Dvorak: I think it's people that know how to do it.
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We need to find these people. Yeah, they
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Adam Curry: should be jacking our stuff up. I have some some
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takes on that I some tick tock takes later on. But first we
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need to go to the other algo that's getting everybody
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worried. And of course we have a little supercut
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Unknown: to latest now in the race for the White House. And
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the incendiary speech from Donald Trump at a rally over the
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weekend with praise for the January 6 convicts, attacks on
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immigrants as subhuman and a warning of a bloodbath for the
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country if
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he's defeated. It's true that Trump started out by talking
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about cars, but listen again. And yet he did explicitly says
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if that will be the least of it. So as you hear he certainly did
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start off by talking about car makers and apparently a
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bloodbath. He's not elected for the whole car industry. But he
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stopped himself and then elaborated, saying, quote, that
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would be the least of it. He knew what he was doing. We're
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not stupid is
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clear what he meant? And what are Trump's sort of rhetorical
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gifts, if you will, as he speaks just vaguely enough and just
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circuitous ly enough that people can kind of read into different
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meanings. He allows himself a little wiggle room and a little
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out.
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Americans aren't stupid.
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We just have to win this election. Because he's even
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predicting a bloodbath. What does that mean? He's going to
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exact a bloodbath. There's something wrong here.
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He was talking about a bloodbath. Sometimes a bloodbath
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means a bloodbath. And when he finishes by saying, and that's
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just going to be the least of it seriously, it's
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Adam Curry: so phenomenal. Even after we warned them not to do
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this, they still went ahead and just did it. It's the media is
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so dishonest. They will even say, you know, I'm going to put
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this all in context for you for a minute, okay? Because people
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say you've got to put it in context of context of what he
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said. Well, Jen Psaki is a spin Meister of epic proportions in
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this context,
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Unknown: every woman otherwise it's irresponsible. Well, if
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they want us to consider the full context, let's do just
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that. Because the full context is that Trump kicked off the
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same exact rally by saluting the people who were convicted for
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the deadly assault on the US Capitol on January 6, all to the
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tune of the national anthem, sung by a choir of imprisoned
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insurrectionists.
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Adam Curry: Now, they weren't actually I don't think they
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actually been imprisoned as insurrectionists. But okay.
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Unknown: Some of the first words out of Trump's mouth last night,
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same rally, were thanking those writers and calling them great
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patriots. The full context is that he also said in the same
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rally quote, If the selection isn't one, I'm not sure that
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you'll ever have another election in this country.
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skipped
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Adam Curry: a couple of words there too. But there's some
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weird carrier wave some I don't know what that is. It's probably
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in her voice.
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Unknown: The full context is that he went on to say some
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undocumented immigrants are quote, not people. And of
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course, the full context is that this is much bigger than one
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single speech. Here we go humanizing language. This is
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what Donald Trump has been preaching for
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Adam Curry: yours. Oh, let's bring out some more of these
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truths. In January.
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Unknown: He warned that there will be quote Bedlam in this
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country if his criminal prosecution derailed his
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campaign. Late last year he echoed the dehumanizing language
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of Adolf Hitler, comparing his political opponents to vermin
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and saying immigrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of
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our country. I love it,
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Adam Curry: how she pretends to provide context around a false
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narrative with false narrative without context of other other
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occasions it this is so meta. Last
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Unknown: month, he said there would be potential death and
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destruction if he was charged in the Manhattan criminal probe.
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And during his first term, he flat out refused to condemn the
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political violence at a white nationalist rally in
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Charlottesville, Virginia, saying there were very fine
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people on both sides. In 2020 report, there's
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Adam Curry: an old cow she drugged out of the canal Lee
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asked his defense secretary about
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Unknown: shooting people who were protesting the death of
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George Floyd saying, can you just shoot them? Just shoot
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them? Shoot him. And of course, his very words inspired violence
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on Jane He raised 620 21 When he told a crowd of his supporters
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to walk down to the capitol and fight like hell, because, quote,
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you'll never take back our country with weakness. Trust me.
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I could go on and on. Yeah, you could. We all know by now that
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Trump's allusions to political violence are not nearly
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rhetorical his supporters take them literally the big problem
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here that show called voters so no we did not miss the full
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context this was not some knee pandering off message comment.
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This is his message
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Adam Curry: so she she literally goes out of her way to not
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explain the context by taking other things out of context it's
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unbelievable how dishonest she will be struck by like she
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John C Dvorak: shouldn't be not I have a super cut pics showing
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the other side of the equation. Yes, we should we have the same
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media people using bloodbath casually left and right in their
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own with their own narratives, not thinking twice about it. We
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have to
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Adam Curry: give credit to rob do suffer sir do suffer. I think
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he put this together over the Info Wars. But as
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Unknown: politico.com reports tonight on the quote bloodbath
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at the RNC headlines
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calling it a quote bloodbath, a bloodbath. Not only is it going
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to be a bloodbath, but after they leave New Hampshire, it's
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a bloodbath on her home turf, that's really tough has left a
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lot of corpses in his wake. I mean, we haven't counted the
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bodies as part of the quote Magga drive to take over
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Maricopa County. And the headline refers to it as an
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impending bloodbath. Columnist
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Charles blow has a new piece for The New York Times and titled A
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Biden bloodbath. 2018
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midterms, you can bet that
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they 100% of fearing a slaughter. In fact, the word
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bloodbath and massacre come up frequently, the Republican Party
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will be destroyed, he's going to be a bloodbath.
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There's going to be a bloodbath one way or the other. For Bernie
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Sanders, it's been a bloodbath. They're shaping up to be a
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bloodbath.
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Adam Curry: This is all before 2022 This is amazing how many
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times the M five M is used the term bloodbath head off
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Unknown: a bloodbath in next year's crucial midterm off
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year elections are often a bloodbath,
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this week's bloodbath for Democrats, a bloodbath at the
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ballot box,
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there could be a Republican blood man, they'll
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talk about a bloodbath, some bloodbath I
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have to talk about you and it's gonna
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be a bloodbath all day long
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is in for a bloodbath hasn't been a bloodbath on the way down
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with
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Donald Trump.
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bloodbath be a bloodbath predicted to
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be a bloodbath may not be the bloodbath it would be a
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bloodbath, more
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of a bloodbath,
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it's going to be a bloodbath in November
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possible viden bloodbath,
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this November,
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a bloodbath on Wall Street, there's
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gonna be a bloodbath in Alabama into a bloodbath,
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obviously there was a bloodbath it was a bloodbath we're down
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800
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John C Dvorak: points,
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Unknown: this bloodbath its Department of Homeland Security
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and it's a bloodbath today
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there was going to be this bloodbath election bloodbath it
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could be a bloodbath for that bloodbath possibly bloodbath
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that went through with the Attorney General like vas 99
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days out the bloodbath is gonna look like resided over a
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bloodbath
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in the diplomatic corps.
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In my opinion blood blood blood,
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blood bath, the Democrats
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are on it to get sales turned into a blood that
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Adam Curry: all right let's go to a serious journalist who
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should know better I'm quite sure that we can get some a
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little bit of sanity out of Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC
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Collier sure Larry save the day today. The Biden Harris campaign
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said Donald Trump has shown us who he is time and time again
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and released this video. He's literally playing a democrat
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party ad on his show.
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Unknown: Oh, get elected, it's gonna be a bloodbath and it's
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going to be a bloodbath for the country. You also had people
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that were very fine people
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are more willing to condemn white supremacists and militia
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groups. Please stand back and stand by
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for the horribly and unfairly treated January 6.
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A lot of Pardons and commutations January 6
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defendants. Yes, absolutely. Tell
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your supporters now no matter what, no bias, and it's going to
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be a bloodbath.
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Adam Curry: It's gonna be a bloodbath. Lawrence taget.
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Perhaps some of you are feeling fear tonight.
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Unknown: Because of Donald Trump's words. That's what he
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wants you to feel. He wants you to fear. He wants your fear.
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Don't give it to him. Oh,
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Adam Curry: but it's working, Larry, because Sonny Halston of
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the view is almost crying out of fear.
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Unknown: He is saying things like this. I don't think you're
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going to have another election if I don't win, or certainly not
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an election that's meaningful. He's saying the loud the quiet
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part out loud. If I am not elected, we are going to See
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January 6, again. And I think we need to be on guard, but make
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sure that we preserve our democracy. Our country looks the
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way that it should look like all of us. It's a good country.
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That's what America was built upon. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: I don't know how she got there from bloodbath. But
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these people are scaring themselves. Literally scaring
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his own team. The M five M team will do anything for money. It's
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It's so unbelievable, because it was so clear. They still were
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able to take the whole context thing and just say, Oh, well,
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but we know what we're gonna do. We know what, yeah, it's
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context. Montek. We understand what he's talking about. He's
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talking about blood sugar, blood, bath and death and
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destruction.
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Unknown: Shortly after the speech to trump campaign tried
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to clean up those comments, insisting in a statement to NBC
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News, that former President was only talking about a bloodbath
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for the auto industry and auto workers. And before everyone
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gets triggered, and is shocked, because this is a shock opera,
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that we have to, unfortunately endure, because we're constantly
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shocked by what he says. But don't let that shock. Don't let
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that trauma, it's trauma. Let you forget what you're hearing.
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That's
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Adam Curry: some NLP right there. Wow, that's
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John C Dvorak: a good one.
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Adam Curry: Don't let the trauma that you have deep in the
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recesses of your mind come up front, don't be afraid of the
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trauma, the shock opera?
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John C Dvorak: Well, I wrote a sub stack on this. You did I put
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it in the show notes even and thank you for doing that. And I
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want to mention something else that we don't have any clips on
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but just to mention a
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Adam Curry: Divorce Act on substack.com.
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John C Dvorak: That even the fact checkers, Snopes being the
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head of the pack on this one took the took the bloodbath
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comment as true. And they use the rationale that the words
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that there will be a bloodbath, just those words alone. He
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actually said those words, they took it, they didn't have any
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context aspect to it. They just says yes, he did say that. So
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it's true. And then they used an example of people reflecting on
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this, which was a tweet that somebody posted, where he is
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where the tweet the tweet guy in some occupied Democrats or one
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of these week guys added added the word violent. Trump says
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there'll be a violent bloodbath and Snopes that that slide. I
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mean, it's pathetic, how everybody works in concert.
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Adam Curry: But then the point of your article was something
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else. Yes.
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John C Dvorak: The point of the article, just to summarize, was
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that Trump brought up a good point about the Chinese building
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a big factory to build to do a workaround on the on anything,
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because if the Chinese suspect Trump's gonna get in office,
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he's gonna put the kibosh on a bunch of things, including maybe
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add some tariffs, which he did last time. Well, you can't do
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that if you're coming in from Mexico. And he's made the
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comment that I'm going to tax them 100%. I in the in the
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column I mentioned, I don't think he can be agreement that
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Trump put together. The Canadian Mexico United States Trade
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Agreement won't allow it. He can't do that. If the Chinese
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are going to build a bunch of cars and bring them in from
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Mexico. Hey, there will be a bloodbath. And nobody's
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discussing that at all, including Fox.
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Adam Curry: Well, what kind of high standard you hold Fox to?
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John C Dvorak: Well, I'm just saying Fox at least caught on
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with the phony baloney, bloodbath comments, but all they
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did if you watch any of their shows is mock the mainstream.
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They didn't bring up the point about you know, is it possible
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that the Chinese could move stuff in and I mentioned in the
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newsletter another which I didn't put into such that column
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is they're already got a mega factory down there building
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modular homes that they may flood our country with.
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Formaldehyde
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Adam Curry: homes,
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John C Dvorak: maybe, really,
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Adam Curry: because they actually I have to say, I looked
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at these BYD cars they look kind of cool if just for in the city.
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They've
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John C Dvorak: done a MIT they've built a million of one
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of one of the models already they build that's a massive
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operation. A golf cart that cost seven or eight No, it's more the
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size of a small Honda. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: but but you can have a golf cart. Someone wrote us
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from China, probably some CCP agent and said these things
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actually cool you do its BYD build your dream and you can
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configure the car to say do I want 15 USB ports I want 10
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cupholders. was somehow not quite sure how it works. But he
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was saying no, you can build it however you want. It's, it's all
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modular. Like okay, what was that car that was modular that
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you could determine we had one of those not that I don't know
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some other car
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John C Dvorak: the point is is that this is the real issue here
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it's not what would Trump said Can they
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Adam Curry: actually have something they could they could
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slam him on and they're overlooking it for the folks
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here breaking, breaking bloodbath breaking
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John C Dvorak: she could go after him on this because they
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can say well, you're the one they came up with this agreement
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is modernized NAFTA. And now the Chinese are gonna roll in town
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and you can't do anything about it. Why don't they talk about
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that? No, that's not not an issue. It was the site even
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though that is the issue the Saigon
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Adam Curry: was the car you could configure the site on?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, you know, and I remember the science
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Adam Curry: what was cool because we get those I mean,
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basically by the media not bringing attention to this and
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by Trump's own trade agreement they're going to burn down
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America with these with these millions of Chinese cars that
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explode in your garage so it's really it's a national security
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issue at this point. You know, it
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John C Dvorak: not only come in cheap cheap very good best price
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they come in with Best Price wipe out all of our electric
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cars and then they'll blow up all our house. Exactly.
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Adam Curry: There's your strategy with your military age
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men fear it's the cars now actually there's there's a much
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bigger danger much much bigger danger I'm I am I mean, I peel
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back some layers on Oprah which believe me is a lot of layers
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and all my G this this issue of the GLP one drugs that they you
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know, that are just flooding America and because of our
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severe sugar addiction, which we have you know, the world has it
22:15
but we're we're the champions of sugar addiction, the sugar and
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the processed foods the process, you know, the carbs, GMO fruit,
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fructose, and of course number one alcohol and alcohol which
22:29
already has sugar plus sugar. I mean, how many? How many shows
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have you seen talking about these? The sugary alcohol
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drinks? I mean, especially the morning shows, they're always
22:41
drinking them. everywhere, everywhere. You know, we have
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this this just happened you remember that? cosmics the the
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McDonald's their new concept this is like a sugar what
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John C Dvorak: happened to that Oh, option
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Unknown: for breakfast in the morning in the morning was
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Dallas McDonald's opening its concept restaurant cosmics it is
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located on the corner of Campbell and Preston roads and
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Far North Dallas there are some food items but the focus is on
23:10
drinks and coffee lots of coffee I'm told and specialty drinks.
23:13
This is the first location in the States. Yesterday customers
23:17
getting an opportunity to try out those new offerings. We had
23:20
to get the drinks in the drive thru and then come inside and
23:22
get food because you got to try every every facet of it. You got
23:26
every angle. It's so cute.
23:30
title says it plans to open more cosmix restaurants in the Dallas
23:34
area within the coming months.
23:36
Adam Curry: These are obesity fill up stations.
23:39
John C Dvorak: Especially those fat Texas you know Texas, big
23:42
square people. They're huge. Well,
23:46
Adam Curry: we all know if you've all seen the mean America
23:48
in the 1970s America in the 2024 I mean we are fat we're fat. And
23:54
that's
23:54
John C Dvorak: because have you seen that my favorite meme is
23:57
showing says the reason for for ocean sea rise shows 70 shot of
24:03
a bunch of thin people and then a bunch of fat souls in the
24:06
water on the beach.
24:08
Adam Curry: It's funny but it's really sad because we're not our
24:12
government are CDC, the Health and Human Services then that
24:16
talking about this? No, no keep eating your sugar. Go just walk
24:22
around in the airport. People are standing in line all unhappy
24:27
looking waiting for a Cinnabon. Sugar. More sugar. I need sugar.
24:32
We're addicted. It's it's this this is the by the way, don't go
24:37
after the sugar industry. Those guys are more dangerous than the
24:40
cocaine industry. They'll kill you in a heartbeat if you start
24:43
talking about it too much. But now we have this fix, which is a
24:49
ozempic We'll go V Manjaro and death bound. So we have all
24:56
these. These so called DIB drugs for diabetes. Ah, it's magic.
25:02
Oh, it's magic. It works so well. You can keep eating all
25:06
this schlock as much as you want blowed up on sugar. This, this
25:11
will take it away. It's just going to take it away. So we
25:15
know that Oprah gave off her board seat on Weight Watchers
25:19
who are now in the game, they purchased a telehealth company,
25:23
which by itself is an unbelievable development in
25:27
American health care. Any drug you want? You just Yeah, I just
25:31
went on the website. Click Click Click answer five questions.
25:34
Yeah, I entered them truthfully. Yeah, sure. And you got your
25:38
drug. You got your drug. It's no problem in the mail. It's
25:41
beautiful. Now from Amazon now from what's his face. Dallas
25:47
boy, Mavericks boy, Cuban Mark Cuban. Mark
25:51
John C Dvorak: Cuban. Yeah.
25:52
Adam Curry: And Oprah also gave up all her shares. She donated
25:56
them to the Smithsonian Institute, Black Studies
25:59
Department for which you can take a fantastic deduction
26:03
because it's a proper 501 C three. And she could always just
26:07
turn around and buy those back in the open market as a public
26:10
company. It's not like, not like that removes any conflict of
26:15
interest. So she had the big the reason why she did that was for
26:19
this big ABC special. Did you see the special?
26:23
John C Dvorak: I avoid it. I'm sorry. I figured you'd watch Oh,
26:26
Adam Curry: I watched it. And I was appalled. I mean, I was I
26:31
was appalled. Blown away. In fact, watching this was almost
26:36
like being in the future. Where I was watching a documentary,
26:41
you know, these documentaries of the drug companies now that got
26:44
everybody hooked on oxy or on fentanyl. And now you're going
26:48
back in the documentary, and you show that everyone's making
26:51
money, they're partying, they're doing blow, they got hookers and
26:54
everything. And they Oh, well, we're killing people. Yeah,
26:57
whatever. It felt like I was watching one of those in the
27:00
future. And we're now seeing how people were tricked into getting
27:04
into this stuff. And even better by having the government pay for
27:08
it. That's what the special was about. And Oprah said, Well,
27:13
wait. Yes.
27:14
John C Dvorak: But you mean the government pay for it? They paid
27:17
for this special?
27:18
Adam Curry: No, they're gonna pay for this drug, you know that
27:20
that's what they're allowing? No,
27:21
John C Dvorak: you are what you mean is the drug? Yes. Because
27:24
Medicare Medicaid, because it's
27:26
Adam Curry: life saving. So, in this hour long special on ABC,
27:32
not for one moment was our nutritionist, anyone talking
27:36
about eating healthy foods staying away. In fact, the word
27:40
processed food was mentioned once at the very beginning. In
27:44
the setup,
27:45
Unknown: Dr. W. Scott Bush has been studying the disease of
27:49
obesity. And please note,
27:51
Adam Curry: throughout this entire special, John, obesity is
27:54
not because you're addicted to sugar, and you're eating this
27:59
poison. As a disease. It's a disease for
28:05
Unknown: nearly two decades. For six years, he has been the
28:09
director of obesity medicine in the bariatric and metabolic
28:13
Institute at Cleveland Clinic,
28:16
your weight has been stable, it's come up a little bit here.
28:20
But I think that's the difficulty. Obesity is a complex
28:24
disease, cause there's many inputs from genetics to
28:27
environment, the food environments change, we're not
28:30
sleeping as much our microbiome is changing, maybe due to that
28:34
change process food. What we've learned through science is that
28:39
the brain controls our body fat and our food intake and our
28:43
metabolism. So in regulates how much body fat we have in our
28:47
body, and how big those fat cells are. Obesity is a
28:51
dysfunction of that regulatory system that's supposed to
28:55
control our body fat in a specific range. So when you lose
28:59
weight, your body will intentionally slow your
29:02
metabolism down, it'll intentionally make you more
29:05
hungry, all in an attempt to get back to where it used to be. The
29:09
body is built to maintain our weight or adipose tissue or body
29:13
fat. And some people are more prone to holding on to their
29:19
fat, they have a higher weight setpoint. And so people who are
29:24
dieting are basically trying to restrict their caloric intake
29:28
because that's what we've been told, almost trying to hold
29:31
their breath under water. And what do we see when that
29:34
happens? We have to come up for air, our body is going to make
29:37
us unable to continue to lose weight, and we will naturally go
29:42
back to where we previously were.
29:45
Adam Curry: So here's here's what they're trying to tell us
29:48
that this is a disease and it's in your brain. Because your
29:51
brain has a body set point. This is why I'm saying it's like I'm
29:55
watching a documentary from the future. They're making this
29:57
stuff up. So your body has a set Point, and it will make you eat.
30:03
So you can't help it you a will make you eat now, I'm not going
30:08
to disagree if you compare alcoholism to this as a disease
30:14
because yes, it's it's you are hooked on alcohol you are. And I
30:19
think that's generally accepted alcoholism is a disease, which
30:23
also contains a lot of sugar, of course. So this is now this is
30:27
the point, one point of this special is to hammer into your
30:31
brain, it's a disease, it's not you has nothing to do with you
30:35
or the pie hole everything goes into. And by the way, people who
30:40
are have this real issue, but the lying and the end the
30:45
uncertainty of the long term effects of these drugs. It's not
30:50
even known, but they are shoving it down your throat with Oprah
30:53
at the right at the helm. And this is not just a disease,
30:57
John, it's a it's a complex disease.
31:00
Unknown: Many people have the disease of obesity. Everybody
31:05
who is overweight does not have the disease of obesity. But if
31:09
you have the disease of obesity, you're always gonna go back to
31:13
that setpoint. If you don't have it, then you can diet lose
31:18
weight exercise, all of the things that we've heard over the
31:21
years is, Am I on the right track? Absolutely. Are you all
31:23
following this? Because if you all are tracking, it means the
31:26
rest of the world track. But
31:27
there's a spectrum of obesity as well. It's not one disease, the
31:30
spectrum is many different subtypes of the disease. So it's
31:33
complex, quite complex. And that's why it is so wrong to be
31:38
shaming people. Because you don't understand the complexity
31:41
complexity of each person's situation.
31:44
And this and I think, as Amy said, this is just a reflection
31:47
of someone's uneducated belief.
31:52
Adam Curry: You're on educated Shut up. It's it's a spectrum
31:55
where else we heard this, oh, autism, it's a spectrum whereby
32:00
everybody can be on the spectrum. These are the tricks
32:03
they employ. Now, this category of drug has been around for 18,
32:08
minimum 18 years, but they've never really been able to sell
32:14
it the way that they're selling it now. Part of that is in the
32:20
last I mean, certainly since the lockdown, we have just ballooned
32:23
certainly as a nation, because everything contains sugar,
32:27
everything is GMO, all the foods we are eating are unhealthy. But
32:32
there's one extra thing we didn't have. That was a magic
32:35
marketing machine. Dr.
32:36
Unknown: Velazquez is here. Were you all surprised in your
32:40
practices when people started losing weight?
32:43
Yeah, I mean, I think we have we've already been using other
32:46
medications for the last 1020 years. But these were just a
32:50
little bit more effective. I mean, we hadn't seen
32:53
1020 years for diabetes for obesity. You know, we were when
32:58
this was the announcement.
33:03
And I ain't I think, you know,
33:05
I go to the nobody told me, you've been doing this for 20
33:11
years. He wasn't
33:13
mainstream, then we didn't have tick tock. That was our problem.
33:15
Adam Curry: Okay. Ah, there's the first clue. We didn't have
33:19
tic toc. That was our main problem gonna circle back to
33:22
John C Dvorak: that interesting the way they said problem.
33:25
Adam Curry: Oh, of course, because it was a marketing
33:28
problem. 100% I'm gonna, I'm gonna get back to that in a
33:31
moment, the marketing problem. So these are, by the way, that's
33:34
a doctor. So there's two doctors she has on the show. And, and
33:38
they have they're very, very knowledgeable. They know
33:40
everything about this. Because they've been doing this for a
33:43
long time. And by the way, you're going to be on it for
33:46
life.
33:47
Unknown: And do you have to be on it for the rest of your life?
33:49
Yeah, the data would support that when we have good trials
33:52
showing that when these patients stopped the medication, that
33:55
disease comes back,
33:56
both of you are consultancy.
33:58
John C Dvorak: Will you stop it for a second? I just want to
34:01
complain about the blank. The change in language world? Oh,
34:06
yeah. The use of the word disease, which always implied to
34:10
me, something that was contagious, it had a vector and
34:14
it had a bacteria or sort of foundational reason for
34:19
existing. It now it's everything gambling, gambling is a disease
34:25
Smokings a disease. Being fat is a disease. None of these things
34:30
have got anything to do with with vectors at all. It's what
34:33
they usually come from. This is like the redefinition of
34:35
vaccine. That's right, where they give you a genetic shot or
34:39
some sort and that's somehow a vaccine because they've
34:41
redefined it. This redefinition, which I have a couple of clips
34:45
of about something else. Later in the show, is just getting on
34:49
my nerves.
34:50
Adam Curry: It's only going to get worse. And, and this is what
34:53
this to me this what tanks. What these people are doing here is
34:58
more dangerous than coal. Within the COVID Vax. I think I don't
35:03
know if I have this on the clip, but somewhere Oprah talks about,
35:06
there's 2 billion P obese people in the world. So that's so a
35:11
disease has 2 billion people. Hmm. No, no, because it's a lie.
35:17
All this is a lie. It's what you're putting in your mouth.
35:20
This is when people go on the carnivore diet. They're like,
35:23
Oh, yeah, I want all beef and look at me, I'm great. It's not
35:26
because of the beef, it doesn't hurt. But you stop eating all
35:29
the other crap. That's the magic bullet right there. But let's go
35:33
back and listen to these doctors. She has a very
35:36
interesting question.
35:38
Unknown: And do you have to be on it for the rest of your life?
35:40
Yeah, the data would support that when we have good trials
35:43
showing that when these patients stopped the medication,
35:46
John C Dvorak: again, the tone of the answer is as if it's a
35:52
positive thing. That's right. And is really frightening to
35:57
listen to this. You can back it up and started over. But the
35:59
tone of the jury had to be honest for the rest of you. Oh,
36:02
yeah. That's great. Yeah, that's great. Yes, you do. And that's a
36:05
good thing. How is that a good thing?
36:10
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I can't wait until we get through this
36:11
whole it's only 37 seconds. But when we get through it, you can
36:14
love it even more. And
36:15
Unknown: do you have to be on it for the rest of your life? Yeah,
36:18
the data would support that when we have good trials showing that
36:21
when these patients stopped the medication, the disease comes
36:24
back. Both of you are consulted.
36:26
John C Dvorak: Stop again.
36:27
Adam Curry: I'm not going to rewind it all the way.
36:31
John C Dvorak: Okay, yes. Use of the word good. Uh huh. In her
36:35
explanation, we have good trials. Yeah, is another
36:38
positive reinforcement term to make it sound like oh, yeah, you
36:41
have to be on the rest of your life. It's good. Did the
36:45
associative wording is just unbelievable. That was really a
36:49
fascinating piece of propaganda
36:52
Unknown: gets better these patients stopped the medication,
36:55
the disease comes back.
36:56
Both of you are consultants to the drug companies. What does
36:59
that mean?
37:00
What that means is that they're looking for expert opinion to be
37:02
able to deliver high quality care to patients.
37:05
You know, I've been involved with some of these companies and
37:08
developing educational programs and modules for medical students
37:12
and medical trainees to learn more about the disease of
37:15
obesity from also running clinical trials with future
37:18
medications. Okay, so
37:20
the obesity epidemic among children,
37:22
Adam Curry: they are paid consultants for the
37:24
pharmaceutical companies that they're talking about. And oh
37:28
purchases. What's that about? Oh, yeah, well, I guess they
37:31
could pay me for my expertise. And the other guy's like, boy, I
37:34
do educational programs is called Marketing. These are
37:38
marketing shills paid doctors this is this is what got
37:44
everyone in trouble with oxy because the doctors are bought
37:48
and paid for they're sitting right there with Oprah on ABC
37:52
primetime, saying, oh, yeah, no, I'm a consultant. I get paid by
37:56
these companies is great. It's it's, it's mind boggling. Oh,
38:01
but wait, there's more. After I'm just going to presume Oprah
38:04
gave all her shares up took the tax benefit, and could have
38:08
easily repurchase the shares in the public market. Let's bring
38:11
on the lady from weightwatchers. Okay,
38:13
Unknown: so I recently made the decision to not continue serving
38:17
on the board of weightwatchers. And I made that decision because
38:21
I wanted no perceived conflict of interest for any special Oh,
38:26
there's none here all products so that I could have a
38:29
conversation with you for some marketing, the SEMA Sistani, the
38:34
CEO of Weight Watchers. And now weightwatchers has changed its
38:39
philosophy and has purchased a company that is in the weight
38:45
loss medications. Can you tell us why that philosophy changed,
38:49
Adam Curry: the philosophy has changed because it's a disease
38:52
Oprah,
38:53
Unknown: we are the most clinically tested, evidence
38:55
based science back behavior change program.
38:59
Adam Curry: Roll the prompter roll the prompter, we
39:02
Unknown: were missing the third prong, which was biology, there
39:05
could be somebody who needs medications because they have
39:08
that biological underpinning and therefore, what is so important
39:13
is for us to provide that care and also to help people release
39:18
the shame for all those people who came side by side and took
39:22
on the behavior change. Some of them walked away without the
39:26
success. And to those people. I want to say it's not your fault,
39:30
not your fault.
39:31
Why do we need Weight Watchers? If we've got zip bound and we go
39:36
V.
39:37
Weight Watchers is not just about weight loss, it's about
39:40
community. It's about education, and it is about care. That's our
39:45
new philosophy is to help people live longer, happier lives with
39:50
wait healthcare. No,
39:51
Adam Curry: you're now a drug pusher. You bought a company
39:54
that does telehealth and they and Oprah just put you on
39:58
television to make sure everybody Go to the well known
40:01
Weight Watchers brand. And buy ozempic. And we'll go V from
40:05
you. Well done Oprah. Now, let's talk about let's talk about the
40:11
risks. This is my favorite, because we bring in America's
40:15
favorite doctor, Dr. Jenn from ABC, listen to this, people
40:21
Unknown: often don't realize that these were first FDA
40:23
approved in the United States for help in managing type two
40:26
diabetes almost 20 years ago. So we have extensive safety and
40:32
efficacy data, they have a good track record. However, when you
40:36
talk about risks, I think you need to ask four questions. What
40:39
are the risks of taking these drugs? Versus what are the risks
40:43
of not taking these drugs?
40:46
Adam Curry: This is so good. So if you don't take these drugs,
40:50
which obviously have some risks, you could die of a heart attack,
40:54
you can die of all kinds of things that come with obesity.
40:57
So she's going to say that it's the risk is lower taking the
41:02
drugs than not taking the drug? Oh, you don't want to raise your
41:06
risk by not taking the drugs? And
41:08
Unknown: what are the risks of not taking these drugs? What are
41:11
the benefits of taking these drugs? And what are the benefits
41:14
of not taking these drugs, we know conclusively that if you do
41:18
not treat or manage the conditions of overweight or
41:21
obesity, the risks are significant increased risks of
41:25
heart attack, stroke, various types of cancer, that has to be
41:29
part of this decision making analysis. So take a very rare
41:33
potential risk or side effect of this class of medication. But if
41:36
a risk is noted to occur one out of every 100,000 times that's
41:42
rare, that's one case. But if all of a sudden, a million
41:45
people are on that drug, you're going to see that rare risk or
41:49
side effect 10 times. Oh,
41:51
Adam Curry: my doctor chin hang your head in shame. So yeah,
41:56
there's a rare side effects. So you know, you'll see a couple
41:59
people in 100,000. But if everyone's on it, it's gonna
42:02
seem like a lot of people have side effects. So keep that in
42:04
mind. I'm Dr. Jen, America's favorite doctor. Dr. Death is
42:09
what I call her. So let's bring back the doctors let's let's
42:13
talk about the side effects, which as far as I know, there is
42:17
an increased risk of suicidal tendencies, there have been
42:21
people who have completed have brought suicide to completion.
42:24
That is how the I have it in the show notes. That is how some of
42:28
the studies call it they've brought suicide to full
42:33
completion. There's also all kinds of things for people with
42:37
thyroid, and but yeah, we've tried it on my so what are you
42:40
worrying about, but
42:41
Unknown: they do have side effects?
42:43
I think that they've gotten over hyped medicine side effects. But
42:46
the important part is that they're mild. It's over high,
42:49
moderate, and the research studies. Yeah,
42:51
I want to talk to Have you answered this question about
42:53
serious health effects down the road. Yeah,
42:55
like we can speak to that. So there's been a lot of hype
42:58
around like pancreatitis, gallbladder complications,
43:01
concerns for thyroid cancer. So there, this has really not been
43:04
shown in human studies that this is
43:06
Adam Curry: because you don't have human studies on it. You've
43:09
done it. This is showing up in mice. Oh, and we don't want to
43:13
test that in humans. The mice knew they died, but it's just
43:15
mice shins
43:16
Unknown: concerns for thyroid cancer. So there, this has
43:19
really not been shown in human studies that this is a
43:21
downstream complication. And that really, that the risk is
43:24
less than 1%. And so when we're talking about any medication,
43:27
people who have
43:28
it, it is an issue for them. So
43:32
John C Dvorak: one more thing. Yeah, sure. 1% is one out of 100
43:36
Not one out of 100,000 As you've already divorced in your brain.
43:41
Yep. The idea of one in 100,000 Well, one and 100,000 That's not
43:45
that much. But when you say 1% Yes, you could, you might as
43:50
well say one in 100, which is a little different. Yeah, this
43:54
whole six xx M magnitude, it's 1000 times more this
43:58
Adam Curry: this is this is a sales job and it's disgusting.
44:03
Unknown: And so when we're talking about any medication,
44:05
people who have it, it is an issue for them. So if anybody
44:08
has a history specifically of modularity, thyroid cancer
44:11
medullary thyroid cancer is very very rare. So if they do have
44:15
that we're not prescribing that medication. So we have to be
44:18
able to keep up with knowing the data and recognizing that it's
44:21
rare but it's there and we have to always screen rare
44:24
Adam Curry: but they're it's rare, but they're and and you
44:27
know we all have to screen. Okay, final clip from the
44:31
Special. Now now, this is what just I my mouth hung open. They
44:38
brought in two reps from the actual pharma companies. From
44:44
Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, sat them together. Arch Rivals, sat
44:52
them together, which which Oprah kept making a big deal about
44:55
this is so awesome. I mean, they are so serious about Got this
45:00
disease and the spectrum of disease that they just want to
45:05
help you. That's why they're sitting side by side. And they
45:09
looked and sounded like marketing ladies to me, but they
45:13
are there to pitch the most important part and this will be
45:16
used over and over again in the halls of Congress.
45:19
Unknown: Miguel Morris is the Senior Vice President for Novo
45:24
Nordisk the Danish company behind ozempic and with govi and
45:28
Rhonda Chico is the Group Vice President for Eli Lilly, the
45:33
American pharma company that manufactures and sells Manjaro
45:38
and zip bound and they've been sitting together this entire
45:42
hour. I wanted to ask you, in the Novo Nordisk offices, when
45:49
this hit tick tock and became like a sensation, what was going
45:54
on back there?
45:56
It was actually over two decades ago, that Novo Nordisk made a
45:59
stand that Obesity is a disease, and that the shame that society
46:04
keeps on people who are dealing with excess weight and obesity
46:07
needs to stop
46:08
that show. Can you both talk about access, first of all,
46:12
running out of the drugs? I guess that's because the demand
46:17
was so high, correct. unprecedent
46:19
demand, I think people are getting the memo, like you're
46:22
talking about, and people are really understanding that this
46:27
is a disease, and they're seeing treatments that are showing this
46:30
efficacy. And so they're going out, and they're speaking to
46:33
their physicians. And so it is unprecedent. It is also very
46:37
lot of physicians who are not informed about it, correct? Yes,
46:41
correct. So we, the job's not done. So
46:43
access is complex, just like the disease itself is complex.
46:47
Obesity medications are not covered to the same extent. And
46:50
that's why that out of pocket cost is what it is, when
46:53
you look at obesity, that it's nowhere near the coverage that
46:58
we need. Well, I
46:59
thank you both for being here the first time it
47:04
Adam Curry: happened. Okay, Oprah well done. So as I start
47:11
to dive into this, all of a sudden, I start to figure it
47:14
out. That this is also the Tick Tock problem in general, tick
47:19
tock has figured out they have they have entire hashtag pages
47:24
that they maintain for obesity, and they and all the influencers
47:30
are tagged by this. Tick tock is not is not. They're not putting
47:37
the influences in there. The influencers are paid by the drug
47:40
companies, they're paid to do their thing. And I think it's
47:45
hundreds of 1000s of them. Tick tock is responsible for the algo
47:50
and for the hashtag, and for making sure that it gets pushed
47:54
into everybody's face. And this is why Google in particular and
47:58
meta, of course, they are so pissed off, because these guys
48:02
have basically figured out the remote control when in the 80s,
48:06
what was the what was the big thing that got us all hooked on
48:08
television, it wasn't television, per se, it was the
48:10
clicker, click, click, click Yes, click, click, click, click,
48:13
click, and that's what tick tock is swipe up, click, click,
48:16
click, click, it's the same mechanism on you know, hyper,
48:20
hyper arised. So now they've got all these different things that
48:23
these drugs are going to cure dementia, inflammation, heart
48:27
issues, depression, addiction to anything lower risk of alcohol
48:32
abuse disorder, this is the this is going to this is going to be
48:37
it and it's going to fix everything, even though we don't
48:40
really have the trials and there's 1% and problems on this
48:42
code stuff. And you could probably fix a lot of this by
48:45
eating different things. Not eat no one talks about it by
48:49
lowering your intake of sugar. And I have to say if you look at
48:53
all the television shows, particularly the morning shows
48:56
that are rampant on cable and on local television, all the latest
49:01
sitting there drinking their sugary alcohol drinks, that
49:04
everybody's talking about cocktail so we're just taking in
49:06
more and more sugar. And then I came across this and that all
49:11
came home. The the stigma of obesity is the next frontier.
49:18
The stigma of depression is already all over Tik Tok. And I
49:24
think tick tock is cleaning up I think they're making so much
49:28
money by by manipulating their algos to put these influences in
49:34
front of mainly teenage girls, because they are now had gone
49:40
all out on the marketing of depression. And if you look at
49:44
the drugs that the children are on from Prozac to Lexapro, I
49:48
mean I can't even tell you all the different brand names that
49:50
they have. Here's an interview with one of those influencers
49:54
who talks about how this works. What a hot girl pills.
49:59
Unknown: Oh god pills out Are SSRIs or antidepressants. It's a
50:02
way that Gen Z goes seem to describe their antidepressants
50:06
on tick tock. There's also silly girl pills. There's also all
50:10
kinds of mental health merchandise with pills on them.
50:14
There's Prozac pillows, there's antidepressant trying cases.
50:17
That's a common phrase now, like hot girls take Lexapro, girls
50:23
take sertraline, all kinds of stuff like that. Not only is
50:26
there the normalization of these mental health diagnosis, but the
50:29
absolute glamorization of them now and you've got like kids
50:32
putting their mental health medication and diagnosis in
50:35
their Twitter bios, young people putting them on their Tinder
50:38
profiles. Like you can't say it's stigma anymore. That's the
50:41
wrong context, especially for things like anxiety and
50:45
depression, autism, ADHD, I'm sure there's areas of it that
50:48
are stigmatized, but the way these campaigns talk about it,
50:51
it's as if it's 10 years ago.
50:54
Adam Curry: This is what they're doing. These pharma rats have
50:57
captured our children, particularly girls. They're
51:01
glamorizing their antidepressive meds hot girls, this is T shirts
51:07
hot girls take Lexapro, you can buy it right there from the
51:10
influencers. Oh, look up, go to my Etsy score. A store? Oh, I've
51:14
got my Prozac pillow. I'll put it. Oh, yes. Kids at school. Oh,
51:19
yeah. You laugh but they do laugh. The demon has a hold of
51:24
our children. Is it social media? Yeah, there's all kinds
51:28
of issue. The real problem is Big Pharma has our children,
51:32
they have them by the balls, because all of them have balls.
51:35
Now. They have them by the balls. And they're controlling
51:39
them. And they're glamorizing these drugs, get your kids off
51:43
of this stuff. This is unbelievable. And it just makes
51:48
so much since now I know why Google is so mad about tick
51:51
tock. They're getting all the pharma money. All of it, because
51:56
they figured out the magical formula. Well, this was around
51:59
for 18 years, it never worked before what happened? Tick
52:01
John C Dvorak: tock that's actually the real thematic
52:04
aspect is exactly it. Even Oprah was made fun of the fact that
52:09
it's been around forever. So it's been around for 18 years.
52:13
And only now they're making hay and what's the coincidence tick
52:17
tock would be it.
52:20
Adam Curry: What do you mean the coincidence? It's a coincidence
52:23
John C Dvorak: of what how do you start marketing? What what
52:25
mechanism allowed this thing to now become popular and marketed
52:30
properly? It didn't it wasn't possible before. Because it's
52:34
been around for 18 years. So what's the coincidence? Yeah,
52:37
Adam Curry: they have they have tick tock tick tock influencers
52:40
and tick tock will sell you the algorithm promotion? Keating
52:46
show
52:47
John C Dvorak: you a package
52:48
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, we just one second. There's the think I have
52:51
it here the here's
52:52
John C Dvorak: what we're gonna do for you. Diggy gay sit in
52:54
front of one of the guys, the buyer. And you say, here's what
52:58
we've got. Nobody else has has this. And then they outline it.
53:01
Well, you know, I've seen these guys send their sales pitch.
53:04
They write it all out and have a whiteboard maybe and they'll
53:08
show me exactly how it's going to work and what it's going to
53:10
cost and how long it's going to take. And again, nobody else can
53:14
do it.
53:15
Adam Curry: At Tiki I'm reading from their own page on tick
53:17
tock, tick tock. We're proud to be a platform that offers a safe
53:21
place where people feel comfortable sharing their
53:23
personal stories and openly discussing well being and we're
53:26
constantly inspired by our community support for one
53:29
another. This hashtag mental health awareness month, we're
53:32
announcing the launch of new initiatives aimed at promoting
53:35
positive mental well being combating stigma and providing
53:39
support to our community. Dude, they they're they're not even
53:44
bashful about it. You can buy the hashtag. Oh, boy. Yeah, but
53:48
because the kid why? Because they're killing children. They
53:52
know it. This is why it feels in the future. We may not be doing
53:56
the show, but in the future there's going to be a
53:59
documentary they may even put this audio in it. Where these
54:04
podcasters figure it out, but they will just podcast that know
54:07
that I doubt no one listened to them. And here's an even Oprah
54:12
was in on it. It is it's it's sad. And these meds they lock
54:18
the demons inside of you. These aren't helping you. These are
54:23
these No way. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. You know now that
54:28
Finland has doubled their intake of SSRIs they're now the
54:32
happiest country in the world.
54:35
John C Dvorak: I have that clip. Oh, you do? But before that I
54:39
want to play the ADHD clip. PMA three. Good Morning, America.
54:45
Three is on board. There's yucking it up the whole time.
54:49
Here we go.
54:51
Unknown: What's got these rising rates of ADHD better across the
54:54
country? What are we learning about this?
54:57
These are new numbers from the CDC and I just Want to show you
55:00
some of these numbers because they are concerning. So if you
55:02
look at the years from 2020 to 2022, the rates of ADHD
55:07
diagnosis in children from five to 17, and increased by 2.5%,
55:11
since 2019, and the rate is higher among adolescents, those
55:15
aged 12 to 17. And boys are twice as likely to be diagnosed
55:19
and girls. And this accounts for almost 6 million children aged
55:22
three to 17. So far I've been diagnosed with in the United
55:24
States, it's concerning. It's something that we need to be
55:27
paying pay attention to, because it not only affects, obviously,
55:30
their social interactions, but just their development, learning
55:33
education. So why boys more than girls? That's a great question.
55:38
I think that there's a lot of structural societal questions
55:40
that we have this is probably nuanced and complicated, to be
55:43
honest, tomorrow that we won't be able to find a specific
55:45
answer. I think one of the reasons why we're seeing these
55:48
rising rates are a couple of factors. Number one, a decrease
55:51
in stigma around the diagnosis, many people are talking about
55:54
it. So people feel more comfortable, there's more
55:56
awareness about the symptoms. So parents know when to bring this
55:58
up with their physicians and their their child's doctor. And
56:02
then also just in terms of access, there's more access for
56:05
those who are seeking out help, because they're just more people
56:08
know about it. And so hopefully, this leads to more people
56:10
getting that diagnosis. Maybe it's not necessarily more people
56:13
getting ADHD, or just being able to find it better, which is also
56:17
good.
56:17
Adam Curry: Did he mention what drugs you can get if you have
56:19
the diagnosis, and denied the stigma? You're not afraid of the
56:24
stigma? We need where's our Federal Trade Commission? We
56:28
need all kinds of Oh, come on, let's at least pretend we need a
56:33
we need all kinds of government organizations to come in and
56:37
stop this. They're marketing death to our children. They
56:41
don't even know companies
56:42
John C Dvorak: own the media, the media tells government what
56:44
to
56:45
Adam Curry: do. They don't even know how SSRIs work.
56:48
John C Dvorak: No, I that's the funny part. They just kind of
56:51
work, just work. In the same GMA three months will play their
56:56
happiness report, so we can at least get that out of the way.
56:59
New
56:59
Unknown: info in the Happiness Report. America is less happy.
57:04
The first time it surprisingly, I guess it's not a surprise to
57:07
many people. But America has fallen out of the top 20. So
57:10
this is a new Gallup poll where they basically analyzed citizens
57:13
of 140 nations, and they ranked the world's happiest countries,
57:18
and America has normally sat in the top 20. But for the first
57:21
time, it's fallen out of that install into number 23. But I
57:24
think as we were talking during the break, the most interesting
57:27
thing about this is that millennials are seem to be the
57:30
unhappiest compared to those who are in the boomer category. And
57:34
there are a lot of reasons why I can suspect that that might be I
57:37
was actually saying it could be the pressure from IG and
57:40
Facebook and all of the social media attention there. But how
57:43
can we change that? Get those numbers up? You know, there are
57:46
there are I think number one, to your point, I think that there
57:49
is something to be said about social media, they always say
57:51
Comparison is the thief of joy. So it's definitely an aspect of
57:54
that. But there have been proven scientific studies in terms of
57:57
what benefits us the most to get our happiness out. Number one
58:00
physical activity, obviously improving those endorphins,
58:03
sleep, you want to make sure that you have a routine and then
58:06
avoiding certain food groups during wintertime especially
58:09
when we feel down we reach for those carbs. I know I reach for
58:11
French fries, because that causes that surge in sugar and
58:15
sometimes even endorphins and dopamine because you're so
58:17
excited to habit. But avoiding that and switching to lean meats
58:21
can help you stabilize your emotions and eat better
58:23
throughout the day. Also practicing gratitude keeping a
58:26
journal. And then lastly, and most importantly, again,
58:29
avoiding comparison. I think that that's one of the most
58:31
important factors here.
58:33
Adam Curry: Oh man, he says it right there. I need some sugar.
58:37
I'm not happy. I need some sugar.
58:39
John C Dvorak: Give me some shade it does. And but the thing
58:41
that always crops up in these, there's a couple of weird things
58:44
that crop up keeping a journal.
58:48
Adam Curry: I don't know what that's all about. But
58:51
John C Dvorak: I've noticed that before keeping a journal and by
58:54
the way, I recommend keeping a journal to two writers. anyone
58:58
thinks they're gonna be a writer someday?
59:00
Adam Curry: Well, you know, we so not only the kids, but the
59:02
teachers are now on the so called anti sad pills. We had
59:05
the clip on the last show. But the teacher saying I'm taking
59:09
anti sad pills, and I got a note from SoCal the fearless Jedi
59:14
Knight of the orange fleet. And he says the teachers on drugs as
59:18
a result of the terrible shape of our schools as well as the
59:20
wide availability and pushing of anti sad pills. While the lady
59:24
on the Tiktok is weak for needing pills right after
59:27
student teaching. My wife is a 13 year 13 year middle school
59:31
teacher a couple of years ago considered taking anti sad
59:34
pills. And this was with a firm sustained. This was a firm
59:40
sustained for them not quite sure what that means. disdain
59:42
probably, luckily I convinced her otherwise and found natural
59:45
methods to fix the issue. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot
59:49
of teachers are users the school system is so bad. The teachers
59:53
stay because they're either passionate or out of guilt or
59:56
they want to get that pension. They think they don't have any
59:59
better options kid You're allowed to do whatever they
1:00:01
want. Teachers don't have the power because they would, you'll
1:00:04
be called racist. Even at a Christian school, my wife
1:00:08
recently escaped to same issues to a lesser extent certain
1:00:11
minority students and their parents feel entitled to the
1:00:14
lecture parents. My wife is incentivized to not punish
1:00:18
certain minority students because then she'd have to deal
1:00:21
with those parents and have to over explain her actions. The
1:00:24
administration won't stand up to these parents. This is this is a
1:00:28
drain, we're circling it going down going down sucking us now.
1:00:35
Now. There is there are some obvious issues with social
1:00:39
media. And you know, there's a lot of people out there with
1:00:45
books and you know, Abigail Schrier is back out on the, on
1:00:49
the promotion path with her book, talking about how, you
1:00:53
know, we're putting these children in too much therapy
1:00:56
and, and always asking, How are you feeling? Are you feeling
1:00:59
okay? Are you feeling happy? Which of course makes the kid
1:01:02
you know, say, well, am I happy? No, I'm probably not happy.
1:01:05
Boom, entered the happy the anti sad pill. Jonathan Haidt is back
1:01:11
out. He did the original coddling of the American mind.
1:01:15
And now he's out with we're right rewiring our kids brains.
1:01:18
And his his solution in this book is well, we need age
1:01:23
verification on social media. It's all about social media now
1:01:27
and completely skipped over the drugs. One in eight kids is on
1:01:30
drugs in America, one in eight people in America are on these
1:01:33
drugs. It you know, you and I are sheltered when it comes to
1:01:38
that. This is normal. This is just the most normal thing. And
1:01:43
if we don't speak up about it, it's just going to keep going on
1:01:46
and on and on. So you so you have a tick tock clip you want
1:01:51
to is that appropriate for right here? No,
1:01:54
John C Dvorak: actually, this tick tock clip is talking about
1:01:57
momentum toward getting legislation against that's good.
1:02:00
Yeah, that's good. I'm gonna play it. Yeah, I want to play
1:02:02
the Senate
1:02:03
Unknown: today receiving a briefing on Tiktok from US
1:02:06
intelligence agencies. This comes just days after the House
1:02:09
passed a bill aimed at addressing the app's affiliation
1:02:12
with Communist China. The legislation requires Tik Tok to
1:02:16
divest from the Chinese parent company bytedance Or outerspace
1:02:19
a banned from US App Stores. Despite overwhelming support for
1:02:23
the bill in the House, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
1:02:26
has not yet indicated how the Senate plans to proceed. If the
1:02:30
bill gets through the upper chamber, President Biden has
1:02:33
said he's willing to sign it. Well,
1:02:36
Adam Curry: I mean, it's so clear now, this is why Mnuchin
1:02:39
wants to buy it. He's like, pros, we need this thing. If we
1:02:45
can get this thing, we're gonna get all that farmer money. He's
1:02:49
not stupid. He knows exactly what's going on. Then I know how
1:02:54
to fix this. But that we can't do that without talking about
1:02:58
the Missouri V Biden case, which, as our constitutional
1:03:03
lawyer, Rob predicted, has now come to the forefront. Now the
1:03:07
media can't stop talking about it. This is the the basic
1:03:11
complaint is during the pandemic, the Biden
1:03:15
administration, I believe, also the Trump admitted or during the
1:03:18
Trump administration, but certainly the bite the White
1:03:20
House would call the social media companies and say, Hey,
1:03:26
take that post down. That's this information. And they threatened
1:03:29
by saying, Well, you know, we got section 230, you might want
1:03:34
to do what we say. So we have audio from the Supreme Court.
1:03:40
This was quite interesting, and a lot of different one, not a
1:03:43
lot, several news outlets paid attention to it. Start with the
1:03:49
PBS news hour.
1:03:50
Unknown: The first one was about social media companies. And
1:03:54
whether the Biden administration violated the First Amendment
1:03:57
when they flagged COVID misinformation to tech giants
1:04:00
like Facebook and X formerly Twitter, where were the justices
1:04:04
on this case in particular? Well,
1:04:06
the crux of the case. And the second case as well is really
1:04:10
how do you tell when the government has crossed the line
1:04:13
between what's permissible persuasion and unconstitutional
1:04:18
coercion? In fact, just the Chief Justice framed that as the
1:04:21
question, how do we measure this is significant persuasion
1:04:27
enough? You know, what else? In fact, the lawyers for the states
1:04:34
that brought this lawsuit said, you don't even need coercion?
1:04:38
You just need inducement and encouragement, which Justice
1:04:42
Kagan said was wow, that's so broad. That's so expansive. So
1:04:46
they're really trying to find out, you know, where where is
1:04:48
the line here? And did the Biden administration cross it and the
1:04:52
justices didn't seem entirely sympathetic to the challengers
1:04:56
here the states of Missouri Louisiana and five in the vigils
1:05:00
who brought the lawsuit, because they saw a couple of problems
1:05:04
with the case first, did these individuals in the states even
1:05:08
have the right the legal right to sue here? They couldn't the
1:05:11
justices couldn't see a clear line between standing the claims
1:05:15
that the individual said their posts had been taken down
1:05:19
because of government action that Justice Kagan said at one
1:05:22
point, there was such a time gap between the communication by the
1:05:26
government and what happened to their posts on Facebook. Was it
1:05:30
government action? Or was it the platform's own action? So I my
1:05:35
sense of the argument afterwards was that they're leaning towards
1:05:40
the majority is definitely leaning in favor the Biden
1:05:43
administration here. That's the general
1:05:45
Adam Curry: consensus, Politico saying that everyone's Oh, no,
1:05:48
that was looks like Biden administration is gonna be good
1:05:50
on this. Of course, really, the problem is, and just to
1:05:55
reiterate, the First Amendment states that the government
1:05:59
cannot censor speech. That's the whole idea is not saying what
1:06:04
the government can do. It's saying the government cannot do
1:06:08
that. But of course, back when the framers put this together,
1:06:11
there was no internet. Should
1:06:13
Unknown: the US government be allowed to tell social media
1:06:16
companies that people's posts are false or harmful? And if it
1:06:20
does, is that the same as pressuring the outlets to remove
1:06:24
them? Complaints came from the Republican led states of
1:06:27
Louisiana and Alabama, and five users who say their posts
1:06:31
opposing COVID vaccines during the pandemic were targeted.
1:06:35
Justice Department lawyer Brian Fletcher told Supreme Court
1:06:39
justices, the government wasn't curtailing citizens free speech,
1:06:43
but exercising its own I
1:06:45
think that the government is entitled to to speak for itself.
1:06:47
It's a feature of our constitutional democracy
1:06:50
to lower courts disagreed, deciding that federal agencies
1:06:54
or coercing social media outlets blocking rights guaranteed in
1:06:58
the First Amendment. The same point Louisiana's Solicitor
1:07:02
General Benjamin aguinaga, argued here,
1:07:05
if the government says our view of that is that it's false, they
1:07:08
can absolutely say that. But if they do more, and they say you
1:07:11
need to take this down. That's a problem first amendment issue.
1:07:14
But the court seems reluctant to restrict the federal government,
1:07:18
especially on health and safety issues, Justice Catan G. Brown
1:07:22
Jackson,
1:07:23
some might say that the government actually has a duty
1:07:26
to take steps to protect the citizens of this country, John
1:07:31
Watson, a journalism law professor at the American
1:07:34
University in Washington, to a large extent the First Amendment
1:07:38
is dysfunctional. But he says the Constitution never
1:07:42
envisioned the internet a platform for billions to say
1:07:46
whatever they want, true or not. So I have to
1:07:50
Adam Curry: play a longer clip of the freshman justice Catan G.
1:07:56
Brown Jackson, the woman who could not define what a woman
1:07:59
is, during her Senate hearing, this woman is disqualified from
1:08:05
sitting on the Supreme Court. I
1:08:07
John C Dvorak: want to do a mere culpa here because I thought she
1:08:10
would be okay. But the more that I see of her in these various
1:08:15
cases she is she is like a, she's dumb. And I mean, she's
1:08:22
appears to she has good ways of putting things but she's, she is
1:08:26
not a good justice. She doesn't have any, her logic is skewed.
1:08:30
So it's like she doesn't even understand how the system works
1:08:33
at all. She's a terrible Supreme Court justice. She's
1:08:36
Adam Curry: got her ideas about it, Justice Jackson.
1:08:39
Unknown: So my biggest concern is that your view has the First
1:08:43
Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways
1:08:47
in the most important time periods. I mean, what would what
1:08:52
would you have the government do? I've heard you say a couple
1:08:55
times that the government can post its own speech, but in my
1:08:58
hypothetical, you know, kids, this is not safe, don't do it is
1:09:03
not going to get it done. And so I guess, some might say that the
1:09:09
government actually has a duty to take steps to protect the
1:09:14
citizens of this country. And you seem to be suggesting that
1:09:17
that duty cannot manifest itself in the government encouraging,
1:09:21
encouraging pressuring fresh platforms to take down harmful
1:09:26
information. So can you help me because I'm really I'm really
1:09:30
worried about that. Because you've got the First Amendment
1:09:33
operating in an environment of threatening circumstances from
1:09:38
the government's perspective, and you're saying that the
1:09:40
government can't interact with the source of those problems.
1:09:46
Adam Curry: I just gotta stop it here for a second. During World
1:09:49
War Two, there was a large campaign because the government
1:09:53
could not tell people to shut up and the camp and they had a
1:09:57
campaign. It was loose. slips, sink ships, but they could not
1:10:03
block people from reporting on what was happening. But now
1:10:07
Catan g brown Jackson is like, well, if kids are jumping out of
1:10:11
windows, the government has to step in. No, no justice in
1:10:18
Unknown: your honor, I understand that in saying that,
1:10:20
I guess what I tell you is that our position is not that the
1:10:22
government can interact with the platform's there, they can and
1:10:26
they should, in certain circumstances like that, that
1:10:28
presents such dangerous issues for society, and especially
1:10:31
young people, but the way they do that has to be in compliance
1:10:35
with the First Amendment. And I think that means they can give
1:10:37
them all the true information that the platform needs and
1:10:40
asked to amplify that. Would
1:10:42
Adam Curry: you? Would you like to hear a second clip from
1:10:44
Qatar? Brown? Jackson,
1:10:47
John C Dvorak: I can't get enough of this. Right.
1:10:49
Unknown: You're just saying that I guess I fought when you say
1:10:52
the way they do that is consistent with the First
1:10:54
Amendment is that they have to show that they have a compelling
1:10:57
interest to do what they're doing. In other words, wow, you
1:11:00
want us to take the line, wait
1:11:02
Adam Curry: a minute. The government can can stifle your
1:11:05
speech, as long as they can show a real interest that that it's
1:11:08
really, really important. This has this one woman read the
1:11:12
Constitution on the Bill of Rights.
1:11:19
John C Dvorak: She's like a classic. federal government
1:11:23
should be running everything. states rights, or men shouldn't
1:11:28
even be considered. They should just trample us it just does
1:11:32
exactly the wrong kind of person should be on the Supreme Court.
1:11:36
Unknown: The First Amendment is that they have to show that they
1:11:38
have a compelling interest to do what they're doing. In other
1:11:41
words, you you want us to take the lines to be between
1:11:46
compulsion and encouragement. And what we're looking at is the
1:11:49
government can't compel maybe they can encourage. I'm
1:11:53
wondering whether that's not really the line. The line, is it
1:11:58
does the government pursuant to the First Amendment have a
1:12:01
compelling interest in doing things that result in
1:12:06
restricting the speech in this way? That test, I think takes
1:12:11
into account all of these different circumstances.
1:12:14
Adam Curry: Man, get her out of there impeach
1:12:18
Unknown: that we don't really care as much about how much the
1:12:21
government is compelling, or maybe we do but in the context
1:12:23
of tailoring and not as sort of a free standing inquiry that's
1:12:28
overlaid on all of this. Does that make sense? It
1:12:31
does, Your Honor. And I apologize for missing guidance
1:12:34
earlier. So the way I think about that is I've been
1:12:36
discussing the standard and I thought we've all been discussed
1:12:39
as
1:12:39
Adam Curry: the Lord. Now. Here's Gorsuch, he had something
1:12:42
to say he brought in a section 230.
1:12:44
Unknown: Mr. On that point, you mentioned core, you've mentioned
1:12:48
coercion repeatedly as in terms of threats. Can there also be
1:12:51
coercion to your view in terms of inducements? We think there
1:12:55
can I think be often a threat or an inducement is sort of the
1:12:57
flip side, one or the other? I think in the next case, you
1:13:00
could construe it either way, threat of prosecution offer
1:13:03
leniency. So we acknowledge that can be both, but it has to be a
1:13:06
threat or an inducement of some concrete government action, not
1:13:09
just a more government speech, and hypothetically, and I'm not
1:13:12
saying this happened here, but with a threat or an inducement
1:13:16
with respect to any trust actions qualify as coercion?
1:13:19
Sure. And the threat or an inducement with respect to
1:13:24
Section 230? qualify? So I think that one's harder for two
1:13:28
reasons. One is that these are executive branch officials who
1:13:31
don't have the ability to unilaterally enact 230 reform. I
1:13:34
think the question, they have a power to influence that
1:13:37
influence. And but the question is, was that would that be
1:13:39
enough to say we're going to, if you don't do x, we're going to
1:13:43
change our position on section 230. So potentially, yes, as to
1:13:48
legislation. 230, if I could just get this out there I think
1:13:50
is different, because 230 is about content. Moderation. It's
1:13:53
a it's about to this very issue. And I think a government
1:13:56
official has to be able to say I support section 230 reform,
1:13:59
because I'm concerned about these things. And also, in the
1:14:01
meantime, I think platforms should be doing that. I
1:14:03
understand that. But in terms of advocating for change of section
1:14:07
230. That could be coercion, in your view, if it were framed as
1:14:10
a threat to our position, how it wasn't done, and How about how
1:14:13
about saying you're killing people? Could that be coercion,
1:14:18
in some circumstances that if you don't change your moderation
1:14:21
policies, you're you're responsible for killing people?
1:14:25
I think that one is much harder. That's a statement that
1:14:27
President Biden made off the cuff. I'm
1:14:29
not I'm not. Listen,
1:14:31
I'm not talking about the context, specific issues. And I
1:14:34
understand you have arguments there. But could that in some
1:14:38
circumstances, an accusation by a government official, that
1:14:42
unless you change your policies, you're responsible for killing
1:14:45
people? Could that be coercion? So I find it hard to imagine a
1:14:49
situation where that sort of public statement could be all
1:14:52
acknowledges you say context matters a ton, and so I don't
1:14:54
want to say it's impossible. All I'm saying is it didn't happen
1:14:57
here.
1:14:58
Adam Curry: So what They're all talking about the wrong thing.
1:15:01
I'm not a lawyer, but I can read and section 230 Is not that
1:15:05
complicated. It's not about the blocking and D, platforming and
1:15:10
algo wising all of that is permitted as per section 230.
1:15:15
The main point is section two, the under the Good Samaritan
1:15:24
section, civil liability, no provider or user of an
1:15:30
interactive computer service shall be held liable on account
1:15:34
of or be treated as a publisher or speaker of any information
1:15:39
provided by another information content provider, ie, if you
1:15:44
post something libelous, or something dangerous, and
1:15:49
something that makes someone killed himself or sparks an
1:15:52
insurrection, or whatever it is, the platform, the interactive
1:15:57
computer service, as they call it, cannot be held liable for
1:16:00
that. If that provision was changed, everything would change
1:16:06
overnight down everything. Yes. And so I am proposing, and we're
1:16:11
going to I want an amicus brief to the court. I am proposing
1:16:15
that we change simply by one simple change to Section 230. No
1:16:21
provider or user of a paid interactive computer service. We
1:16:27
all agree that if you are not paying for the service you're
1:16:31
using you are the product. Everyone agrees with this? Yeah,
1:16:36
no, I'm the product. They're marketing. To me. They're
1:16:38
marketing pills. They're marketing, diet stuff. To me,
1:16:41
they're doing all kinds of stuff. Hey, if you're paying for
1:16:44
that service, even if it's $1 a month, which I doubt most people
1:16:47
would pay, then you should have no liability. Because an
1:16:52
interactive computer service can also be a web hosting service,
1:16:55
it could be wordpress.com. So you know, obviously if you're
1:16:59
providing a service and someone's paying you for it, you
1:17:02
know, there's a difference. So you shouldn't be held liable.
1:17:06
But if you're getting it for free, because you the the
1:17:09
interactive computer service, you are using those people as
1:17:14
your product, you absolutely should be held liable.
1:17:18
John C Dvorak: That's never gonna happen. That's this is the
1:17:22
the amicus brief the whole, the thesis where you could I don't
1:17:25
I'm not signing it. The thesis is that these systems are like
1:17:31
community bulletin boards, just like a bulletin board. It used
1:17:34
to be the grocery stores used to have them checked out. Yes. And
1:17:37
you could post anything you want up there. And if somebody goes
1:17:39
up there and seasoning and tear it down, if they want,
1:17:44
Adam Curry: I can't tear down your post, you can report me, I
1:17:48
can't tear it out. It's not if that's apples to oranges, the
1:17:51
community board is not making money off of your posts in the
1:17:55
supermarket. There's a big difference. These are not
1:18:00
information content providers. These are marketing companies.
1:18:04
John C Dvorak: Safeway store is making the money and that is
1:18:06
this one little add ons benefits you
1:18:09
Adam Curry: like you You are pro death. I'm just saying there's a
1:18:15
very simple solution. And an Yeah, I know it's a heavy lift.
1:18:20
Because everyone's in the pocket of Silicon Valley, the drug
1:18:24
companies, there's absolutely no incentive to do it other than
1:18:26
the people that maybe want to protect their children. I
1:18:30
John C Dvorak: don't understand why if you want to pay for this
1:18:32
service, it should be more wide open than if it was free. What
1:18:37
What Why is there a financial difference in the way you see
1:18:40
things? Oh, because
1:18:42
Adam Curry: I think that then you are, there's a contract.
1:18:46
Because you have a payment, you have a contract, which is not
1:18:49
the same as a EULA. And you're agreeing to certain things and
1:18:53
no one will do it. It'll shut it
1:18:54
John C Dvorak: down. Same as a EU law, it will be a EU law. But
1:18:59
Adam Curry: then you're okay. I'm telling you that this is the
1:19:03
way to go. Because they will shut these companies down. You
1:19:06
want to be you want to live dangerously pay the entrance
1:19:08
fee. You're good to go. That's the way I see it. Yeah, well,
1:19:15
small. I agree. It's a It's not necessarily something that will
1:19:19
ever happen in our lifetime. But we're not going in a good
1:19:22
direction. The mark the pharma companies have everyone by the
1:19:26
BA LL. S. And they're just going to kill us all. They're gonna
1:19:31
kill us. Because eventually it was like, oh, yeah, this is
1:19:33
great.
1:19:34
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not arguing against
1:19:38
that thesis. I'm all in now. They own it. They own the
1:19:42
mainstream media. Because of their ads. I was watching what
1:19:45
was I watching the other day? Oh, no, I was like some of the
1:19:48
clips I got today. I got from ABC News. And ABC News is all
1:19:52
pharma ads. And it's like I'm skipping through these ads one
1:19:56
after another stuff I never heard of. And it's just one
1:19:59
thing after or another and it's just it's horrible. I mean, they
1:20:04
own the mainstream media, the mainstream media makes policies
1:20:07
based on what they tell them to do. That's right. It's so
1:20:10
obvious, right?
1:20:13
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the other Biggie the other
1:20:18
John C Dvorak: time you clear your throat No, I'm waiting for
1:20:20
bullshit. No, that's the exact same throat.
1:20:26
Adam Curry: I know it's it's exactly the same when we play
1:20:35
the other doing it the other Goliath in the room is the
1:20:38
military industrial complex. Now, this is so brazen. We know
1:20:42
and by the way, I think the EU should be slapped for this. They
1:20:46
are putting the SWIFT system and even more parallel than it
1:20:49
already is. This
1:20:51
John C Dvorak: is that's gone. I put together a clip but I have a
1:20:55
clearable. I have to talk I have to clip.
1:20:57
Adam Curry: So the SWIFT system is, in essence, a bunch of
1:21:04
banks. Everybody has an account with the bank. And when you send
1:21:07
money from one bank to the other bank or through your bank, it's
1:21:12
not like the money transfers over the wire. No, they just
1:21:15
it's just a messaging system, the SWIFT system and they say,
1:21:18
Hey, take five bucks from that account, put it into that
1:21:21
account. And of course, all the central banks have big accounts,
1:21:25
including Russia, and they have about $300 billion sitting
1:21:28
around in the SWIFT system of which over 200 billion is that
1:21:32
Euro clear? They're the clearing house. You might have heard of
1:21:36
automatic Clearing House Ach, they are the clearing house in
1:21:41
the EU. And so they're sitting on over 200 billion euros worth
1:21:45
of Russian money and they want it they want it so bad. They
1:21:49
want to take that money. Everybody wants that money
1:21:51
because stupid America stupid Republicans stupid Trump won't
1:21:55
send weapons to Ukraine. Oh, wait a minute. We're not
1:21:58
actually sending weapons to Ukraine, the military industrial
1:22:01
base, the military industrial base needs that money. We need
1:22:05
that money. We need that money to build stuff to buy stuff to
1:22:08
pay our people to keep the GDP up. We need that money. Money
1:22:11
money. Well, we'll take the interest of the money. Yeah,
1:22:14
yeah, there you go. We'll take the intro. We'll call it a
1:22:16
windfall profit. But let's make sure that 90% of it still goes
1:22:21
to us to the military industrial base. Now
1:22:24
Unknown: the European Union appears set to use frozen
1:22:27
Russian assets to fund the purchase of arms for Ukraine.
1:22:31
The US foreign policy chief Joseph Burrell says he will
1:22:34
present the plan to the bloc's leaders this week. The
1:22:37
draft plan would see 90% of the revenues from seized Russian
1:22:41
assets being funneled towards an EU run weapons fund for Ukraine.
1:22:45
nearly 300 billion euros worth of foreign currency gold and
1:22:49
bonds belonging to the Russian Central Bank were frozen by the
1:22:52
West following Russia's invasion of Ukraine 70% of that is held
1:22:57
by the Belgian based institution Euro clear over the next four
1:23:01
years, the profit generated by frozen Russian state assets is
1:23:04
expected to be worth up to 27 billion euros. So far, the EU
1:23:10
member states have mostly agreed to spend this money on Ukraine.
1:23:13
But whether the funds should be used for humanitarian
1:23:16
infrastructure is as yet undecided. US foreign policy
1:23:22
chief Josep Perl six potential for weapons purchases.
1:23:25
So after the discussion today, I've seen the Dureza strong
1:23:30
support. There are some members have stated want to have more
1:23:35
details. But there is such a thing as strong support to take
1:23:39
the revenues, the windfall profits and to use it to support
1:23:43
Ukraine, how the military to increment the resources,
1:23:47
European peace facility can also to support the development of
1:23:51
the Ukrainian defense industry.
1:23:54
Adam Curry: But it's not Burrell or the Commission who will
1:23:56
decide that will depend on the Council of member states meeting
1:24:00
this Thursday and Friday, if they do this, the European Union
1:24:06
who would ever use the SWIFT system again? Well, those eight
1:24:09
holes it they can block your money and they'll take all your
1:24:13
all your interest and your profit. Why would anyone use
1:24:17
that? And that is the backbone of the US dollar in the Euro
1:24:21
dollar it and that we're allowing this
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: worry. Where's the bankers out there? Noticing
1:24:29
that this is an issue. They're the ones you're gonna end up
1:24:32
screwed in the end?
1:24:33
Adam Curry: Well, I'm sure that I'm sure now that it's just
1:24:37
John C Dvorak: not a good idea. It's a
1:24:39
Adam Curry: horrible idea. And then notice how well they're
1:24:42
fighting over the money now. Pay I get that money get that money.
1:24:46
It's worth up to 29 billion euros. Yeah, but you have to
1:24:49
send it to us. Send it to us the war machine. And it's not. It's
1:24:54
not weapons for Ukraine. No, it's going to Raytheon and
1:24:59
Boeing. Ah, boy, yeah, okay. Go for it boys. By
1:25:07
John C Dvorak: the way, I have a horrid friend of a friend God
1:25:11
who came up with a conversation one of those, one of those who
1:25:15
worked at one of the sub contractors for Boeing. And his
1:25:20
claim is that the problem at Boeing is corporate culture is
1:25:26
when the company moved to South Carolina for most of his
1:25:29
manufacturing, thanks
1:25:31
Adam Curry: to Nikki Haley.
1:25:33
John C Dvorak: Thanks to Nikki Haley. They lost the extreme
1:25:38
safety, quality control corporate culture of the Seattle
1:25:42
area and replace it with whatever the hell's going on in
1:25:46
South Carolina and not have they can't do the
1:25:48
Adam Curry: job. Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham do we need to say
1:25:51
more? That's the culture there. You
1:25:53
John C Dvorak: end up with a culture that doesn't give a
1:25:56
shit, basically. And that's Boeing's problem.
1:26:00
Adam Curry: I have an update on the whistleblower because the
1:26:03
retaliation complaint has been revealed in this
1:26:07
Unknown: 32 Page complaint. Barnett's lawyers lay out the
1:26:10
crux of a Federal Labor lawsuit against Boeing. His lawyer tells
1:26:15
me Barnett did not want to destroy the company. He wanted
1:26:19
to save the company. John Barnett was at Boeing for 32
1:26:23
years a quality manager for more than half of those years. He
1:26:27
spent his final seven years at Boeing in South Carolina on the
1:26:31
production line for the highly touted 787 Dreamliner. In this
1:26:36
whistleblower retaliation lawsuit. Barnett says he and
1:26:39
other quality managers were pressured by Boeing upper
1:26:42
management to violate FAA standards as well as Boeing's
1:26:46
own policies. Barnett stated he was worried about a catastrophic
1:26:51
event. The issues he cited included documenting inspections
1:26:56
never performed, incorrect serial number data not being
1:27:00
fixed, defective parts that were not fully documented and made
1:27:04
them put back on airplanes. Titanium slivers being left on E
1:27:08
nuts and not cleaned. The concern there that is that they
1:27:12
could start a fire and defective parts in the personal oxygen
1:27:16
tanks. When Barnett filed ethics complaints. He says Boeing
1:27:20
fought back with negative performance reviews and keeping
1:27:23
him from transferring out of bowing South Carolina. Barnett
1:27:27
also said he was harassed, humiliated and treated with
1:27:31
scorn and contempt by upper management. John Barnett stated
1:27:35
that he took an early retirement due to the hostile work
1:27:38
environment, he was in the middle of depositions in this
1:27:41
case, when he was found dead. The corner says from a self
1:27:45
inflicted gunshot wound, but the case is expected to go to trial
1:27:49
this summer. There it is.
1:27:53
Adam Curry: And as we do here in America, Shut up or I'll kill
1:27:57
you.
1:27:58
John C Dvorak: That's about well in South Carolina, that could be
1:28:01
an issue. Yeah, we did. I did get a note of one of our
1:28:04
producers is a pilot for 787. No. And he says about the
1:28:10
rebooting he says the three three redundant computers that
1:28:14
do have to be rebooted every and he had a figure of ours, they
1:28:18
just do that. And if they all go out, the plane just returns
1:28:22
completely to manual control and is not that big of a deal. Yeah,
1:28:26
Adam Curry: well, that sounds like that was just some
1:28:28
passenger saying something. Yeah, that's what I'm guessing
1:28:31
they're probably trying to move focus away from whatever really
1:28:36
happened. ployment on Boeing. Blame it on Boeing. Hey, yes,
1:28:44
John C Dvorak: this is we're talking about language. I get
1:28:46
these two clips out of the way. Okay. These are these are irked
1:28:52
gays.
1:28:54
Adam Curry: It's my favorite kind of gay.
1:28:56
John C Dvorak: The first one is a clip of in irked gay male
1:29:03
commenting on a gaslighting trans dude, or I don't know what
1:29:08
they them. I don't know what this person is. But this guy's
1:29:10
commenting on
1:29:11
Adam Curry: them. I'm not participating in pronouns
1:29:13
anymore. We're not doing that yet.
1:29:15
John C Dvorak: So it's hard to get your dog. It's impossible.
1:29:17
In fact, there was the mic favorite clip was the one where
1:29:19
I changed my pronoun every day. Okay, well, Tina
1:29:23
Adam Curry: was talking to someone the other day. And I
1:29:25
watched him when he was flying back from Florida to sat next to
1:29:28
a lady she said, you know, half the kids in in. She said she has
1:29:33
an 18 year old and a 15 year old. She has the difference in
1:29:37
the five years, which of course a lot of that was COVID like the
1:29:40
18 year olds, three years, but Okay, three years. What did I
1:29:46
say? 1515 Okay, three years or three years COVID That, you
1:29:52
know, the 18 year olds peers are still kind of okay. But the 15
1:29:58
year old, half the class identifies as queer nine but non
1:30:02
BAP non binary or trailed and the kids, the minute a kid
1:30:06
switches there, right? The kids switch Oh, this is she and that
1:30:10
just say her and she and the programming is so strong. And of
1:30:14
course the kids are aren't all queer and gay and non binary and
1:30:18
trans. They just don't want to be one thing straight because
1:30:22
they've been told that's a problem. You're problematic.
1:30:26
Yep. All right. And so
1:30:28
John C Dvorak: here's a guy bitching about another guy and
1:30:31
here we go gay gaslighting. Did you
1:30:33
Unknown: people attacking other LGBTQ people is probably coming
1:30:39
out of feeling bullied, no other traumatized No, not wanting to
1:30:47
upset dad. Not wanting other people like us to confuse the
1:30:54
streets and therefore it feels like a life and death issue.
1:30:59
Like your dad not being able to understand you and being violent
1:31:02
with you. Maybe
1:31:03
daddy issues like really, genuinely saying that people
1:31:06
like myself who call out the disgusting behavior happening
1:31:09
inside of the LGBTQ community in under our umbrella have daddy
1:31:13
issues we're not bullying gay people because we have daddy
1:31:16
issues. We are exposing people hiding in our community who
1:31:20
exhibit highly suspicious behavior regarding children if
1:31:24
you act like pedophile and say it's all about rainbow love and
1:31:26
acceptance Well, we are going to call you out some moment to
1:31:28
recognize the level of gaslighting happening here. The
1:31:31
reality is people like myself are fighting tooth and nail to
1:31:34
number one protect children from clips like you who hide
1:31:37
underneath the rainbow umbrella. And number two, save our
1:31:40
community before we wind up back where we started.
1:31:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the back where we started thing is an
1:31:46
interesting theme. And I think it's starting to show up here
1:31:49
and there and this this whole there's there's a there's an
1:31:52
undercurrent of a revolution taking place in the LGBTQ blah
1:31:58
blah blah community if there is one, and I think this one is
1:32:03
another evidence another more evidence is this. This
1:32:06
particular clip which is the pissed off lesbian, hate
1:32:10
Unknown: to say I told you so but they want to get rid of
1:32:12
regular gay and lesbians now because being gay or lesbian is
1:32:15
racist and everyone should be trans now, the organization
1:32:18
GLAAD which is a Trans activist organization is now saying that
1:32:22
being gay or lesbian is just a subcategory of being trans. They
1:32:25
removed biological sex from the equation and replace it with
1:32:29
gender. So you're no longer gay or lesbian. You are same gender
1:32:32
loving, but what is gender? So these are the new terms to erase
1:32:37
gay people and have everyone be trans now because you are no
1:32:39
longer gay, you are attracted to masculinity and you are no
1:32:42
longer a lesbian, you are just attracted to femininity. But why
1:32:46
would they do this? Because it validates men, it validates men
1:32:50
because it validates men who identify as women who claim that
1:32:52
they're lesbians, it validates their identity. How far can they
1:32:56
actually take this? Like, this is why the LGB needs to be
1:33:00
separated from the teeth. Because on one side, you have an
1:33:03
orientation and on the other side, you have mental illness.
1:33:06
Yeah, you heard me right. I said what I said,
1:33:09
Adam Curry: I'd recommend a podcast for you, John. And for
1:33:12
anyone else who's interested. The disaffected podcast, which
1:33:15
is a pissed off gay guy who talks about this and talks about
1:33:20
the mental illness and he's in he's, it's a good, good podcast,
1:33:24
he talks about Cluster B, and typical narcissistic personality
1:33:29
disorder. That's what all this is enhanced by drugs sold to you
1:33:34
through social media. Ah, particularly Hall
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: back. Oh, yeah.
1:33:39
Adam Curry: I'm good at that. So
1:33:41
John C Dvorak: I just, yeah, there is something going on. And
1:33:44
there's a new symbol they have and she uses it, which is
1:33:48
instead of LGBTQ Yeah. LG Bell G with a Buddhist scissors emoji.
1:33:56
T Q.
1:33:57
Adam Curry: O, we cut it. Okay. I got it. LG that
1:34:00
John C Dvorak: and this is I think this is a real trend,
1:34:04
Adam Curry: though it is. But but haven't I warned about this.
1:34:08
But it kept saying oh, the LGBTQ community. I've always said
1:34:12
there's no community.
1:34:13
John C Dvorak: That's not a community. There's no There's no
1:34:15
community and Ellen, the gees barely get along together.
1:34:18
There's barely a there's a no agenda meetup community.
1:34:23
Adam Curry: Yet. There is however, something apocalyptic
1:34:26
on our horizon, John. There is something very bad about to
1:34:30
happen. We've been tracking this throughout the progress of the
1:34:35
show, and now a rare double event. Spring
1:34:39
Unknown: the birds are back. The flowers are back. But for the
1:34:42
first time in centuries, billions of cicadas are also
1:34:46
about to be bad. Yeah,
1:34:48
John C Dvorak: many
1:34:48
Unknown: 17 of 13 doesn't overlap too often.
1:34:51
As entomologist, Dr. Frank Rose alluding to there in a few
1:34:55
weeks, the bird of cicadas that emerges every 13 years and the
1:34:58
brood that emerges every 17 years are going to pop out of
1:35:02
the ground at the same time, which last happened in 1803.
1:35:06
Some are even calling this spring and summer, the cicada
1:35:09
pocalypse. What should we do when there are millions of them
1:35:12
here all of a sudden,
1:35:14
oh, just controlling them all going away. If we don't control
1:35:17
them, they are not harmful.
1:35:20
Well, they may not be that harmful. But cicadas are still
1:35:25
quite the loud neighbor for the four to six weeks that they move
1:35:28
into your backyard. Some cicadas can even reach over 100
1:35:31
decibels. Why are cicadas so loud? What
1:35:34
are they talking about?
1:35:36
They're talking about girls. Yes, according to Dr. Frank,
1:35:39
we're just going to have billions of males audibly
1:35:41
competing with each other to grab the attention of the female
1:35:44
cicadas. When
1:35:45
they come out. They have to be quick before they get eaten.
1:35:48
They have to find a mate and mate.
1:35:51
Now to be clear, it's mostly the 13 year cicadas impacting the
1:35:54
South in Appalachia, while the 17 years the kid has hit the
1:35:57
Midwest, but in states like Illinois, they might get both in
1:36:00
the same forest. Sorry, guys. Also, it's about to get real wet
1:36:06
apparently, because according to the National Academy of
1:36:08
Sciences, a new study finds that cicadas have the fastest
1:36:12
urination Villa velocity in the world at three meters per
1:36:17
second. That's more than elephants and horses. So I think
1:36:21
the Windy City is about to get real fun this summer.
1:36:26
John C Dvorak: Well, that part I didn't know I
1:36:28
Adam Curry: didn't know that either. Cicada pocalypse, but I
1:36:30
think we should capitalize on this. And we've we've
1:36:35
John C Dvorak: had producers that suggested this. Well, we
1:36:38
have we have
1:36:39
Adam Curry: a publishing company now. We need a cicada cookbook.
1:36:45
Oh god. No. Just a thought.
1:36:50
John C Dvorak: You know, there is. I think we could put a
1:36:52
couple of cicada recipes in the newsletter. If anyone has any
1:36:57
good ones, but I don't wouldn't have it. I mean, I know what you
1:36:59
mentioned. I know that people do eat these things. Yes. See? See?
1:37:04
It's just like tastes like lobster. No, it
1:37:07
Adam Curry: does not. Taste like lops okay, I
1:37:10
John C Dvorak: don't know. I don't know what it tastes a
1:37:11
pride taste. Heard
1:37:12
Adam Curry: of lobster from the sea. It's lobster from the tree.
1:37:16
John C Dvorak: There you go. You already got a jingle?
1:37:19
Adam Curry: Hey, I can't even get you to jump on board with
1:37:22
Slenderman I mean, I'm just throwing out exit strategies
1:37:24
left and right
1:37:25
John C Dvorak: here you are full of them. The problem is with the
1:37:29
cicada thing it only comes and goes right
1:37:31
Adam Curry: that's why that's why it's a delicacy. You gotta
1:37:34
move fast. It's a delicacy. Yes,
1:37:36
John C Dvorak: of course dairy. I did read about this by the way
1:37:39
and there are people that do eat these things. And I go I'm gonna
1:37:43
go do more research and get to some of those recipes and post
1:37:45
them yeah, if you live in Chicago Darren only a homeless
1:37:51
has all they moved all these migrants to Chicago and a lot of
1:37:55
homeless. They can eat it this is an opportunity
1:38:08
tasted like Texas news, Texas news. I got
1:38:11
Adam Curry: I got Texas news. I have Texas news for you. I got
1:38:13
some real Texas news. We're in the news. So the eclipses
1:38:17
Unknown: coming right April a small budget hotels in Texas.
1:38:20
This is from Bloomberg, they are charging more than $1,000 a
1:38:25
night for a room because people are flocking to these small
1:38:27
Texas towns and that is eight to 10 times more than what they
1:38:31
normally charge for it so they're sparking up these prices
1:38:34
Texas which I didn't know this why they go to Texas it because
1:38:37
it has a lower chance of cloud cover. So that's why people go
1:38:41
to Texas to see this. So it's
1:38:42
April 8, so the wine country in in Fredericksburg, a hill
1:38:45
country town in the zone of totality will be at its best.
1:38:51
April 8 Once $1,028 with taxes for King crazy. So what are we
1:38:57
seeing here? I'm seeing an eclipse glimpse. Yes,
1:39:00
but if you miss it, here's the thing. There won't be another
1:39:03
one covering like such a large part of the country until 2045
1:39:08
John C Dvorak: they're always adding another Eclipse what?
1:39:12
They always do that but this is my whole life. It's been Oh,
1:39:16
this will be you'll never see another eclipse in your entire
1:39:19
life if you missed this one, but we're in the zone of totality.
1:39:23
Yeah, you're in this you've always been in the zone of
1:39:25
totality.
1:39:29
Adam Curry: This is true. Yeah, genius. Can I tell you the
1:39:35
genius come in right, sir Jean?
1:39:37
John C Dvorak: Yes, you're gonna pay 1000 bucks in your house.
1:39:39
No, no, no, no,
1:39:40
Adam Curry: we've turned all kinds of people down. Hey, can I
1:39:44
can I borrow
1:39:45
John C Dvorak: the price? I think you're going the wrong
1:39:46
way. Oh, by the way, we're
1:39:48
Adam Curry: worried about fires people gonna be camping
1:39:50
everywhere. And jeans companies bringing his shotgun his ar 15
1:39:55
His hand guns his thermal vision and his night vision to a
1:39:59
company bum off the land, good jeans the guy you want in a case
1:40:03
like this.
1:40:06
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to these clips on the Texas
1:40:08
immigration law. This would be the first clip which is Texas
1:40:11
immigration law clowns. Oh, clowns
1:40:14
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
1:40:16
Unknown: Here we go. It was last night here. We reported the
1:40:19
Supreme Court had cleared the way for Texas to move ahead with
1:40:22
its own new immigration law making arrests and deportations
1:40:25
on its own, at least for now. Well, tonight that law is back
1:40:28
on hold amid questions and confusion over how to enforce
1:40:32
it. ABCs Maria via real from El Paso tonight,
1:40:36
tonight uncertainty at the southern border with the law
1:40:39
that would allow Texas to arrest deport or imprison anyone they
1:40:43
believe may have entered the US illegally. Now in legal limbo.
1:40:48
We
1:40:48
are not going to prioritize this. We are unfamiliar with
1:40:51
federal immigration law. That's not our job responsibility.
1:40:55
Adam Curry: You know, this has already been blocked. Right.
1:40:59
John C Dvorak: And did you know that's what we're talking about?
1:41:01
Well, but
1:41:02
Adam Curry: it was blocked. The Supreme Court unblocked it. And
1:41:06
this morning of the lower court blocked it again.
1:41:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what this clip is about. Now,
1:41:10
Adam Curry: it didn't sound like it. Okay. No, if
1:41:11
John C Dvorak: you listen to it against it, the Supreme Court
1:41:13
let it go. And I got blocked again by the fifth. Fifth
1:41:17
Circuit. Yes. Yeah, that's what this is. But what was
1:41:20
interesting on that clip, which does say what you just said,
1:41:24
it's this guy at the end was a law enforcement guy saying, we
1:41:27
don't really we don't care this. We don't want to do it. They do.
1:41:31
They care, probably. But they don't want to do it because it's
1:41:34
off. That's not what Abbott is saying. will advocate say what
1:41:38
he wants and we got to have it in this clip, too. Let's go to
1:41:40
part two.
1:41:43
Unknown: Two got it. Overnight, the US Supreme Court ruled the
1:41:46
law known as SB four could temporarily take effect while it
1:41:51
was challenged in a lower court of appeals. hours later that
1:41:55
appeals court blocked the Texas law, again, in anticipation of
1:42:00
oral arguments on the case today, the legal whiplash
1:42:03
leading to confusion and frustration in border
1:42:06
communities like El Paso
1:42:08
that's a racial profiling issue as well. That's our concern. Our
1:42:11
department has been very, very fortunate to not have any racial
1:42:15
profiling complaints for several years, and we want to maintain
1:42:18
that standard.
1:42:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm another cop. This time in El Paso going
1:42:24
on about racial profiling is that that's a concern.
1:42:27
Adam Curry: Well, it is it I mean, yeah, well, I
1:42:29
John C Dvorak: guess it is, or he wouldn't have brought it up,
1:42:31
but it's like, okay, so you don't want to do anything
1:42:34
either. So now there was Texas is all talk, but the the law
1:42:39
enforcement operations down there don't want to do any of
1:42:42
this.
1:42:42
Adam Curry: Excuse me. You're talking about El Paso. El Tardo.
1:42:47
Okay. The El Paso they're the ones who sent the buses full of
1:42:51
protesters up to Austin to protest SB four. The El Paso is
1:42:55
Beto country man. That's why they're all like that.
1:43:01
John C Dvorak: It doesn't sound like Texas to me, let's play
1:43:04
Adam Curry: was not it's like Austin. It's like Austin on the
1:43:06
border. Or three,
1:43:09
Unknown: some officials in San Antonio, Fort Worth and Austin
1:43:13
also voicing their concerns. But tonight Governor Greg Abbott
1:43:17
standing firm saying Texas has the right to defend itself. As
1:43:21
DPS troopers and state guardsmen along the border prepare,
1:43:25
they will continue to use every tool or strategy they can to
1:43:29
arrest people jail, these people crossing the border.
1:43:33
David is part of the battle over SB four here in El Paso when all
1:43:36
along the southwest border, there has been a sharp decrease
1:43:39
in the number of migrant apprehensions we're seeing about
1:43:42
4000 a day and that is a big decrease from what we saw those
1:43:46
record breaking numbers back in December. Yeah,
1:43:49
Adam Curry: that's the true result of this is that people
1:43:52
are not coming over the border anymore. They're flying still,
1:43:55
I'm sure. But the word is out. It's a pain in the butt. You
1:43:59
don't want to go. It has decreased. There's an interview
1:44:03
out there with a an Uber driver, who's also a podcaster. I should
1:44:07
get a clip of her who isn't. I don't know which which comes
1:44:11
first your podcasts are then an Uber driver or you're an Uber
1:44:14
driver with a podcast, I'm not sure. And she was making $5,000
1:44:20
A week from people ordering Ubers to go pick people up at
1:44:25
the border. And that just disappeared almost overnight.
1:44:30
She says it's done. So that is the result ultimately. So it has
1:44:37
some desired effect. But at the end of the day, the federal
1:44:41
government is in charge of the board and they should not allow
1:44:43
this to happen.
1:44:45
John C Dvorak: Well, if you're flying people in it up to 300
1:44:47
over 300,000 Flying him in from out of the country into our
1:44:51
country. Yes. And giving him money in a credit card and a
1:44:55
phone. Yes. It doesn't sound like the federal government
1:44:58
really doesn't want them to They
1:45:00
Adam Curry: want them and I have some proof here. Why they want
1:45:04
them actually got a note from a banker actually hold on a
1:45:07
second. Let me read this boots on another banker. Yes. Well,
1:45:11
ITM Adam and John. I'm a career banking professional. I'm not an
1:45:16
insider. Sorry to hear that. No way he qualifies it. I'm a
1:45:21
career banking professional. I'm not an insider, but I'm an
1:45:23
adviser to the Insider. So this is this is what you want. Name
1:45:28
withheld, for obvious reasons. I've heard you. I've heard you
1:45:31
connect bankers and mass migration, I think you're onto
1:45:33
something. The goal here though, is to get wage inflation in
1:45:38
check. So we can get so we can go back to irresponsible
1:45:41
monetary policy. Central banks do not control inflation,
1:45:46
because it's bad for society. You know, they control
1:45:48
inflation, because it's terrible for banks. You can't lend money
1:45:52
and an interest rate that is lower than inflation, or you'll
1:45:55
go bankrupt. But interest rates also can't go up. Everyone is so
1:45:59
indebted from 20 years of near zero interest rates, raising
1:46:03
them more will drive a wave of defaults and banking collapses,
1:46:06
think SVB. What kind of inflation is bad for banks?
1:46:10
Well, asset inflation is good for banks, because it increases
1:46:14
their investments and also strengthens the value of
1:46:17
collateral held against loans. wage inflation, is what the
1:46:21
bank's worry about. So how do we keep the party going? Mass
1:46:25
immigration, assets go up, wages go down. It's highly possible.
1:46:30
It's a global banking conspiracy, because this wave of
1:46:33
immigration is coinciding in highly indebted Western
1:46:36
democracies around the world how they do it through lobbyists by
1:46:40
complaining about worker shortages causing inflation by
1:46:44
threatening the government with stress test reports and directly
1:46:48
via their own insiders like Janet Yellen. And here's an
1:46:51
example of this wage control from NBC.
1:46:55
Unknown: in major cities across America. Officials say they've
1:46:58
reached a breaking point, struggling to handle the record
1:47:01
number of arriving migrants, but here in small town, Fremont,
1:47:04
Nebraska, where there are just 39 workers for every 100 job
1:47:08
openings, some are encouraging even more illegal migrants to
1:47:11
come. We
1:47:12
need these people they need this work done. This is what feeds
1:47:15
feeds the nation in the world. Many
1:47:16
of the openings are at this half billion dollar chicken plant
1:47:20
opened in 2019. Young locals often move away leaving those
1:47:24
slaughterhouse jobs to migrants, like this entail Hernandez
1:47:28
mostly Spanish with Hispanic migrants, although it is hard
1:47:31
although it is heavy, they endure. He says the difference
1:47:35
with an American citizen is that every time he finds a job, when
1:47:38
he sees it as hard he leaves it he says Hernandez and his wife
1:47:43
are also pastors to the growing Guatemalan community. Once this
1:47:49
town of 27,000 was nearly all white, now one out of six are
1:47:53
Latino. Since 2018, the school district added almost 800 non
1:47:58
English speaking students in
1:47:59
Adam Curry: Nebraska. It's great yeah, such a border town in
1:48:02
Nebraska. And of course, they are living the American dream
1:48:06
meatpacking
1:48:07
Unknown: is the biggest industry here in Fremont. The state's
1:48:09
Chamber of Commerce has Nebraska needs to welcome more migrants
1:48:12
to fill jobs like these. But some residents here are
1:48:15
resistant to that change. Voters back to town ordinance twice,
1:48:19
which says locals must tell the city that they are here legally
1:48:22
before they can rent housing. The city cannot always verify
1:48:25
the information but people say the law remains on the books to
1:48:28
send a message. Councilman Paul van Baron supports it. Why was
1:48:32
it brought up
1:48:33
since it asked the city council to do something because it was
1:48:36
pretty obvious that we were become a haven for illegals.
1:48:39
He argues slaughterhouses paying low wages to migrants lowers
1:48:43
incomes for citizens and criticizes increased costs for
1:48:46
migrant children at local schools. The sheer
1:48:49
pressure of bringing in numbers of people has resulted in a
1:48:53
considerable burden to the taxpayers. Let's
1:48:55
city councilman Mark Johnson, who's lived in the area since he
1:48:58
was 10 years old is against that ordinance. So bad look for our
1:49:02
city and he says Fremont needs to embrace change.
1:49:05
Immigration is crucial. A lot of people would live in grew up
1:49:08
here. Don't stay they they they move out is critical for us to
1:49:14
have the people that we've got your back at
1:49:16
the church Vicenta tells us he regularly gets about three hours
1:49:20
of sleep a night. But still he and his wife Maria say they
1:49:24
found their new hometown be one so I knew now I live the
1:49:28
American dream as they call it. I'm happy because I have
1:49:31
everything she tells us. State officials say they often have
1:49:34
problems with undocumented workers using fake IDs just this
1:49:38
month for migrants were charged with using them to get
1:49:41
slaughterhouse jobs
1:49:42
Adam Curry: and headline from March 18. Wages in the US are
1:49:47
falling at a striking pace that this
1:49:50
John C Dvorak: is this is we have a President Joe Biden who
1:49:54
promote union isms good paying union jobs, and this is what he
1:49:59
gets gives us this is the same kind of flip flop not a flip
1:50:03
flop is a switch or ru where he you know talks about cutting
1:50:07
fossil fuels but let yet he pumps more oil than then Trump
1:50:11
did. Right. But when
1:50:12
Adam Curry: we're threatened bull crap with these threatening
1:50:15
the wrong people, we're threatening politicians but we
1:50:18
should be threatening bankers who want to see the change
1:50:22
because well
1:50:22
John C Dvorak: the Democrat Party is the party of bankers.
1:50:26
Yeah, it has been since Clinton. Yeah.
1:50:29
Adam Curry: It's the bankers man. It's the bankers. They're
1:50:34
doing
1:50:35
John C Dvorak: good paying union jobs, my ash. Dignity.
1:50:44
Adam Curry: Just getting by. So you can retire. Oh, where's that
1:50:49
Obama clip?
1:50:50
John C Dvorak: That that's a good one.
1:50:52
Adam Curry: Just getting by. Here we go. I have it here. All
1:50:56
right. It's Thursday, July. Oh, that's not it. I thought, Oh,
1:51:01
man. Oh, the Obama American dream.
1:51:04
Unknown: In the end, the folks I hear from in letters or meet
1:51:07
when I travel across the country, they aren't asking for
1:51:10
much. They're just looking for a job that covers their bills.
1:51:13
They're looking for a little financial security. They want to
1:51:17
know that if they work hard and live within their means,
1:51:19
everything will be all right. They'll be able to get ahead and
1:51:22
give their kids a better life. That's the dream each of us has
1:51:26
for ourselves and our families. And so long as I have the
1:51:29
privilege of serving as President, I'll keep fighting to
1:51:32
put that dream within the reach of all Americans. Have a great
1:51:36
weekend, everybody. Thanks.
1:51:38
Adam Curry: So I can dream. Thanks, Obama. That's the
1:51:42
American dream just getting by just getting by when
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: I've had kind of a quasi ask Adam clip, which is
1:51:50
the it's not a technical one, but I just wanted to play the
1:51:54
clip and then ask you a question. This is the missing
1:51:56
student in Nashville, which everybody's covering.
1:51:58
Unknown: We turned out of the search for that missing college
1:52:00
student last seen on surveillance and police video in
1:52:03
Nashville that search now intensifying tonight. This
1:52:06
evening. Here the new term the search expanding now beyond
1:52:08
Nashville. Authorities have now shut down a dam and ABCs faith
1:52:11
Hubei in Nashville force. Tonight,
1:52:14
the source for Riley strange stretching beyond Nashville
1:52:17
authority shutting down a dam to search through debris 30 miles
1:52:21
downstream from the riverbank where the missing college
1:52:24
student was last seen. His family is still hopeful, but
1:52:27
bracing for the worst. Put
1:52:29
yourself in our
1:52:29
shoes. Everybody knows everybody's thinking.
1:52:34
Those conversations are starting to happen. That's not what we
1:52:37
want.
1:52:38
In Nashville, the United Cajun Navy searching the Cumberland
1:52:41
River. It's been nearly two weeks as Riley vanished during a
1:52:44
fraternity trip. After he was asked to leave this downtown
1:52:47
bar. He was seen stumbling and falling before appearing to
1:52:51
recover. Then briefly chatting with a police officer to assert
1:52:57
good, he found his credit card. Riley's debit card found on the
1:53:01
riverbank a 15 minute walk away from that bar. Instead of
1:53:05
heading to his hotel. His family thinks he got disoriented.
1:53:09
Thanks
1:53:09
he got turned around when he came out. Why? I mean, I can't
1:53:14
answer I don't know. I don't know why.
1:53:17
And David police a witnesses in the unhoused community reported
1:53:20
seeing rally by the river but they do stress that at this time
1:53:23
there's no evidence of foul play.
1:53:25
Adam Curry: I love the unhoused community down by the river in a
1:53:29
van by the river. So what do you want to ask me?
1:53:36
John C Dvorak: Why is this the story on national news at all?
1:53:40
There are you how many people are that go missing every year
1:53:44
in the United States? Good just give me a ballpark figure.
1:53:47
Adam Curry: Oh of all ages. Yeah. 100,000 600,000
1:53:54
John C Dvorak: People go missing 4000 dead bodies appear out of
1:53:58
the blue from this sort of missing problem. It's the
1:54:03
numbers are staggering in every area of the country. So I'm
1:54:07
asking you as the ask Adam, why does this one story as opposed
1:54:13
to probably 10,000 around the country at this moment of
1:54:17
missing people? Why is this get picked up and run by all the
1:54:22
network because
1:54:22
Adam Curry: this is a non colored person?
1:54:27
John C Dvorak: This is the 600,000 I'd say most of them are
1:54:30
non color but I don't know about that. But one way or the other.
1:54:34
Adam Curry: Maybe he had an extra extra supply of
1:54:37
Adrenochrome that they're making.
1:54:40
John C Dvorak: Trying to find that guy's got the best
1:54:43
Adrenochrome
1:54:44
Adam Curry: we got to find that kid. That's
1:54:46
John C Dvorak: I just like to know as to what what is the
1:54:49
editor's desk Why did they buy this store? How
1:54:52
Adam Curry: about this to distract you from all the other
1:54:54
stuff. It's a human interest story that you can relate to. Oh
1:54:57
my child. Oh my child me While it's another kid who sadly as
1:55:03
God is just plastered. Our nation is plastered for plaster
1:55:09
John C Dvorak: this kid was plastered they show video did
1:55:11
the thing that it was a presentation you can make
1:55:14
because they a lot of videos of him walking down the street
1:55:17
drunk, plastered, plastered literally, I was and I suppose
1:55:22
that makes it a better story. But I am just done by the fact
1:55:26
that they can pick one story out of $600. And actually they may
1:55:30
pick five five a year. And the others go they breast languish
1:55:35
I'm what I would assume that somebody in someplace else. Just
1:55:39
you know, their daughter's been missing for a month and they
1:55:42
can't get any attempt. They're probably just find it weird.
1:55:45
Adam Curry: They're probably hoping that they find this kid
1:55:48
within just a couple of weeks. And then there'll be a good new
1:55:51
segment on the no agenda show. They're like, wow, we can make
1:55:53
the podcast. I don't know. I do know that we're a plastered
1:55:57
nation. I was at I was at Java ranch on Main Street. Here's a
1:56:02
coffee shop. It's just an old school coffee shop.
1:56:05
John C Dvorak: I'm in the morning. Where
1:56:06
Adam Curry: are you? 11am I play chess with a guy on Tuesday.
1:56:11
John C Dvorak: Mornings. Right? I see you at the park. Oh, no,
1:56:13
it's not the park. It's no that should be at the park. No, but
1:56:16
do you have the timer? Do
1:56:18
Adam Curry: we don't have the time? Oh, yeah, we don't use it.
1:56:21
But we have two hours and we'll play two games in two hours. And
1:56:25
so I'm always talking to the kids behind the bar. They're
1:56:28
like, you know, their mid 20s guy and a girl that the baristas
1:56:32
but it's really it's just the you know, you get Yeah, you can
1:56:35
get fancy coffee but it's just a it's a coffee is a coffee joint.
1:56:39
And, and I was how's it gone? Ah, she says Ah. Oh man, spring
1:56:45
break. It was the worst. I said what do you mean? says people
1:56:49
were in here at 11am completely plastered. Their kids are
1:56:54
crawling on the floor getting waterboarded by cappuccinos he
1:56:58
said was
1:56:59
John C Dvorak: the way way Yes. And Fredericksburg for spring
1:57:02
break. We
1:57:03
Adam Curry: are one of only six cities in America that allows
1:57:07
open container on the street. And we have 300 wineries which
1:57:14
of which five have grapes and the rest are drinking barns.
1:57:19
We've become a plastered destination funny. It's not
1:57:23
funny. It's Brooks bubble bust is a problem. The worst The
1:57:29
worst is the bridesmaid. See everyone comes out here because
1:57:32
they're great, great wedding venues. So you got to get
1:57:35
married, but then they stay in the What are you drinking?
1:57:38
John C Dvorak: That sounds good. Well, you made me thirsty.
1:57:41
Adam Curry: What are you drinking?
1:57:43
John C Dvorak: I'm drinking DRAM DRAM
1:57:46
Adam Curry: DRAM DRAM DRAM
1:57:48
John C Dvorak: DRAM D right. Yes. Excess what it is dynamic
1:57:52
RAM, citrus and blossom flavor. Herbal sparkling water. Oh,
1:57:57
Adam Curry: I am drinking another Waterloo. I was tipped
1:58:02
off by a producer to try the BlackBerry lemonade. Which is a
1:58:08
bit intense to me. It doesn't taste at all like anything. But
1:58:11
remember it has its naturally flavored, which means contains
1:58:15
chemicals.
1:58:17
John C Dvorak: natural flavor, electrolytes.
1:58:20
Adam Curry: natural flavors is a group of chemicals, but it
1:58:23
sounds good. Yeah, so they come out here for their wedding. They
1:58:29
said we have 25% of the homes here are short term rentals, ie
1:58:35
Airbnb, which is a problem, which is a real problem. And
1:58:39
then we have these big pink limos and a big pink school bus
1:58:44
and they pick up the bridesmaids and they drive them off to some
1:58:48
winery. They all get plastered and they walk around the street
1:58:51
with inflatable dildos. It's a mess. What? Yes, yes. Yes, it's
1:58:58
a mess. It's a mess.
1:59:00
John C Dvorak: Well, I think you should take action. Yes, sir.
1:59:03
Adam Curry: Well, I'm I go to council meetings and, and zoning
1:59:07
board meetings. You bet. You bet. I do. You bet I do. By the
1:59:12
way,
1:59:13
John C Dvorak: this is all news to me.
1:59:14
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's, that's what Fredericksburg is
1:59:17
slowly becoming. And a lot of people are unhappy. So we'll
1:59:20
see. We'll see where that goes. You sent an article to me about
1:59:26
Mike Johnson, which was fascinating inside Mike
1:59:30
Johnson's ties to a far right movement to gut the
1:59:33
Constitution. Yeah, they
1:59:34
John C Dvorak: want to get the Constitution. Now. Did
1:59:36
Adam Curry: you read that whole article? Yeah, of course. I did.
1:59:39
Did you see that? My buddy, Rick Green is in that article.
1:59:41
John C Dvorak: That's why I said it to you. I
1:59:43
Adam Curry: didn't realize that. I'm really like, hold on a
1:59:44
second. The guy I just met Rick Green is all over this thing.
1:59:49
Yeah, so this constitution of states is this kind of a cool
1:59:53
idea.
1:59:54
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. Why not? Yeah. Well, for one
1:59:58
thing, it seems like a pipe dream. No, never We're gonna get
2:00:00
it together and it's not much, not much different than Xikar
2:00:04
and some of these others, crackpots that want to do this
2:00:07
becomes a constitutional convention, they can test the
2:00:10
Constitution and that's what they'll do.
2:00:12
Adam Curry: Ever. That's the whole point.
2:00:15
John C Dvorak: This descriptor constitution I don't need that
2:00:17
aggravation, change
2:00:18
Adam Curry: it to get rid of stuff like that, like, pass an
2:00:22
amendment real quick. There shall be no FDA.
2:00:26
John C Dvorak: Amendments through Yeah, yeah, I like that.
2:00:29
By most of the things they'll try to get through they ever got
2:00:32
this
2:00:32
Adam Curry: thing going to divorce California. We're going
2:00:34
to divorce California that I'm going I'm all in on this
2:00:37
constitution states everybody. Convention of States sorry,
2:00:40
convention.
2:00:41
John C Dvorak: Is the they're gonna do the constitutionally
2:00:44
demanded balanced budget. Oh, there goes the economy. Yeah,
2:00:49
that's dumb. No, that's not as dumb as somebody should have
2:00:53
done. It will never, that'll
2:00:55
Adam Curry: never work. We could No, that'll never happen. It's
2:00:59
happened
2:00:59
John C Dvorak: before the ballot, that budget was
2:01:03
balanced. The administration when the Republicans were
2:01:06
running Congress, and Clinton was all in it. The Republicans,
2:01:08
the ones who did it, they couldn't get credit for it. But
2:01:11
they balanced the budget. They went through whoop. We didn't
2:01:14
have to borrow a bunch of money. We didn't screw up, but it was
2:01:17
fine. And that wasn't that long ago. And it could have been done
2:01:20
time after time, but there's always something bullcrap war,
2:01:24
usually it's a bull crap war, and then when Trump got in when
2:01:27
they stopped the bull crap wars that came with the bull crap
2:01:30
COVID So you can't win. Speaking
2:01:32
Adam Curry: of speaking of Trump, though, I'm gonna take us
2:01:35
back to August of 2019. Do we all remember this
2:01:39
Unknown: on Sunday, Trump confirmed to reporters his
2:01:41
interest in purchasing the autonomous Danish territory and
2:01:44
did not rule out trading a US territory for the island, Trump
2:01:48
said essentially, it's a large real estate deal. Danish
2:01:52
politicians across the political spectrum expressed disbelief.
2:01:57
over Trump's sudden cancellation of the state visit. The Danish
2:02:01
Prime Minister met the Fredrickson cold his idea to
2:02:04
purchase Greenland absurd. She also told reporters thankfully,
2:02:09
the time where you buy and sell other countries and populations
2:02:14
is over. Remember, that
2:02:17
John C Dvorak: was a great idea.
2:02:18
Adam Curry: It turns out you're right and he was right.
2:02:21
Unknown: Located between the Arctic and Atlantic Oceans,
2:02:25
Greenland is the world's largest island. Despite its name, the
2:02:30
country is not entirely green. In fact, much of it is covered
2:02:34
in ice and snow. And beneath lies a hidden treasure trove of
2:02:38
rare earth minerals, which are key to production of a range of
2:02:42
clean technology from electric cars to wind turbines. As the
2:02:47
climate crisis accelerates, eyeshadows are melting faster
2:02:51
than a popsicle on a summer's day. And the island has found
2:02:56
itself in the spotlight like never before. In 2019 than
2:03:01
President Donald Trump said he will be interested in buying the
2:03:04
Danish autonomous territory or the United States to tap one of
2:03:09
the world's largest reserves of rare earth minerals. And last
2:03:14
week, European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen
2:03:17
integrated any office in Greenland's Capitol news.
2:03:21
Tomorrow fear of presence in the territory,
2:03:24
Adam Curry: so they just dropped a couple billion dollars into
2:03:27
Greenland open up an office.
2:03:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
2:03:30
Adam Curry: they usurped us.
2:03:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, nobody helped. Nobody helped. Nobody
2:03:35
got to know Trump's
2:03:37
Adam Curry: crazy Orange Man. Nuts. Yeah. And and of course,
2:03:41
as I say, We're all complaining about all the problems we have.
2:03:46
But meanwhile, the climate change nonsense creeps up
2:03:50
slowly. This is how they're really gonna get us if we don't
2:03:53
stop it. Spring
2:03:54
Unknown: is here, at least officially. And that means an
2:03:56
end to what has been the warmest winter on record. According to
2:03:59
the new data out today. That's not a good thing. It's in fact
2:04:02
why we've been seeing those gigantic storms lately and our
2:04:05
meteorologist Stephanie Abrams over with our partners at the
2:04:08
weather channel is going to join us now to walk us through
2:04:10
everything explain what's going on here. Steph? Good morning.
2:04:13
hottest on
2:04:13
record. Tony. Good morning. No, as report shows the planet
2:04:16
actually just had its warmest December to February on Google.
2:04:21
Yes, so we're nearly two and a half degrees above the 20th
2:04:24
century average is a concerning trend, with nine of the top 10
2:04:28
warmest winters occurring in just the last decade here in the
2:04:31
US. 13 states saw their warmest or second warmest winter on
2:04:36
record, leaving the Great Lakes mostly ice free and allowing for
2:04:40
back to back Lake Effect events in January. Western New York was
2:04:44
buried and four to seven feet of snow. The Buffalo Bills turn to
2:04:47
their fans to help them shovel out Highmark stadium ahead of
2:04:50
the playoffs in mid February when the ice typically maxes out
2:04:54
it dropped to less than 3%. A new record low. The western US
2:04:58
was one of the wettest regions In the world in February, parts
2:05:01
of California got three times their monthly rainfall, the
2:05:05
extreme de luz triggered nearly 600 mudslides in Los Angeles.
2:05:08
And just the first week looking ahead through May above average
2:05:12
warmth is expected for the northern tier with heavier rain
2:05:14
in the southeast. Tony the latest report from the UN World
2:05:17
Meteorological Organization says a climate crisis is a defining
2:05:21
challenge that humanity faces no
2:05:23
Adam Curry: no no it's a lie. And weather's not climate until
2:05:29
it was your lie always
2:05:31
John C Dvorak: say it was not climate now they started to say
2:05:33
it is they're
2:05:34
Adam Curry: lying them and and and finally someone got caught
2:05:39
in this nice that it was KLM the Royal Dutch Airlines got caught
2:05:43
greenwashing. So how this works is when they say net zero, the
2:05:49
it's not zero carbon by the way, it will be carbon dioxide, but
2:05:53
we've just change that to carbon now. And zero carbon would mean
2:05:57
no humans because we are by default made of carbon or
2:06:00
carbon, we're carbon. Net Zero means that you buy credits give
2:06:06
us some credit man who buy credits by buying up pieces of
2:06:11
Africa or some other place and just saying hey, it's a carbon
2:06:15
sink. It's a carbon sink. Well KLM marketed this to their
2:06:20
customers, and they were caught lying about it. It's a
2:06:23
celebration
2:06:24
Unknown: for climate activist group fossil free after a Dutch
2:06:27
court ruled that national airline KLM had misled customers
2:06:31
with its 2019 Fly responsibly campaign. According to the court
2:06:36
15 out of KlM 19 Environmental claims were misleading. It had
2:06:40
inflated the benefits of its sustainable aviation fuel. And
2:06:44
it had given the mistaken impression that flying with KLM
2:06:46
is sustainable. We've been
2:06:48
working on this case for two and a half years and then finally
2:06:51
have this very clear decision of the court saying that it's
2:06:56
illegal for companies to claim they are tackling the climate
2:07:00
crisis while in reality they are fueling the crisis. The court
2:07:05
however,
2:07:05
did not impose any punishment on KLM nor push for it to issue any
2:07:09
statement of rectification aside from being concrete and honest
2:07:13
in future now
2:07:14
Adam Curry: now boys just be honest from now on okay. I don't
2:07:20
even know how to stop this any but people just people make
2:07:23
jokes about new people don't believe in it. Just go away,
2:07:26
whatever. But there's gonna come a day when your credit card
2:07:29
won't work and they're gonna say sorry, no be for you if there's
2:07:33
any available because you drove too much. That's how
2:07:38
John C Dvorak: beef being available. Let's play these
2:07:40
clips. This is China taking over the world's food supply. There
2:07:44
Unknown: it is. Experts say China is trying to take over
2:07:47
America's food supply. At a House hearing today lawmakers
2:07:51
heard testimony on risks to us food security, and today's
2:07:55
Virginia Gibson has more.
2:07:57
I have witnessed this hostile communist country work to
2:08:00
systematically take over our food supply chain. Governor
2:08:03
Kristi Noem told lawmakers Wednesday that China is a threat
2:08:07
to American agriculture.
2:08:08
They have decades ago started buying our fertilizer companies
2:08:11
controlling our ability to access fertilizer, bring it into
2:08:14
the United States. Then I watched them buy up our chemical
2:08:17
companies. Now most of our processing facilities are owned
2:08:20
by the Communist Party or Chinese government. Now they're
2:08:24
coming for our land
2:08:25
now. China will have complete control of the US food supply
2:08:30
after they buy up all the land 70%
2:08:33
of the crop protection products that are produced globally, most
2:08:37
from China. Another 40% of the world's phosphorus supply
2:08:42
originates in China. Imagine if they shut off our supply.
2:08:47
Kip. Tom is a former US ambassador to the UN agencies
2:08:51
for food and agriculture. He said China is strategically
2:08:54
building a dominant world food system at the expense of the US.
2:08:59
No
2:09:00
Adam Curry: the US and the entire global companies like
2:09:03
Cargill, and JBS Nokia. They're the ones who are controlling the
2:09:07
food supply and they're closing processing plants. And they're
2:09:11
selling their capability to China. China's not sneaking in
2:09:15
and taken over.
2:09:16
John C Dvorak: I agree with this and I don't understand where
2:09:18
Christine nomes coming from. She's trying to make a name for
2:09:20
herself because she thinks she can be the vice president under
2:09:23
under Trump. Yeah,
2:09:25
Adam Curry: it's dishonest. We have a problem. Beef
2:09:29
initiative.com Everybody shake your local ranchers hand if you
2:09:32
want to eat during the coming food crisis.
2:09:35
John C Dvorak: This is part two of the clip.
2:09:37
Unknown: The Chinese are aggressive in their approach in
2:09:40
investing in a lot of these developing nations to make sure
2:09:43
they can secure a food source Tom
2:09:45
said China is investing all around the world, largely to
2:09:49
secure food sources. Africa has 4.2 million square miles of
2:09:54
arable land or the US has less than 600,000 Tom says he
2:09:58
believes the US should invest more in research and development
2:10:03
and cybersecurity further
2:10:05
China's massive cyber warfare divisions, notably PLA unit
2:10:09
61398, DOD, have the capability to disrupt key American
2:10:14
infrastructure critical to our agriculture. This includes power
2:10:18
and water utilities as well as communication and transportation
2:10:21
systems
2:10:22
policy expert Nova Daly said this critical infrastructure is
2:10:26
exposed because of gaps in current laws,
2:10:29
Adam Curry: given the advances in farm technologies, our
2:10:33
reliance on supply chains that provide the fairest Chinese
2:10:36
actors kill switches to our machinery. Yeah, eyes are our
2:10:40
production. These all are matters that should be addressed
2:10:44
now. Okay, so this is clearly more anti China rhetoric,
2:10:48
because we're doing that pivot to the Indo Pacific away from
2:10:52
Ukraine and Russia. And again, it's the massive international
2:10:57
global companies owned by the US in the UK, who control the food
2:11:01
supply, and they now control all a large swath of land. It's not
2:11:07
the Chinese who went into Ukraine. No, we, we hijacked it.
2:11:12
We sold off all of that farmland to again, the same companies,
2:11:15
Cargill, Monsanto. And now. Now we're screwing the farmers all
2:11:21
over the EU since
2:11:22
Unknown: June 2022, after Russia's full scale invasion of
2:11:26
Ukraine
2:11:29
Adam Curry: for their invasion full scale, full scale since
2:11:33
Unknown: June 2022. After Russia's full scale invasion of
2:11:37
Ukraine, the EU has suspended import duties and quotas for
2:11:41
imports from Ukraine to support its economy. However, cheap
2:11:45
Ukrainian grain exports have sparked protests by farmers in
2:11:49
neighboring countries such as Poland and Hungary. The
2:11:52
Ukrainian Prime Minister today Dennis Shmi, Howell has welcomed
2:11:56
this deal. But France which is the EU's largest wheat producer
2:12:00
has called for more limits to be introduced and more cereals to
2:12:04
be included, including wheat, it takes place against the run up
2:12:09
to the European elections. And many countries including France,
2:12:13
which of course has a strong farming lobby have to balance
2:12:17
the concerns of their agricultural sector while
2:12:20
maintaining their commitment to supporting Ukraine.
2:12:24
Adam Curry: And it's hurting the Polish farmers who are also
2:12:29
hacked off protests
2:12:30
Unknown: right across Poland. The police in Poland estimate
2:12:33
that as many as 70,000 Polish farmers are taking this
2:12:37
Adam Curry: big but 70,000 This is shown a lot taking place
2:12:41
right now test,
2:12:42
Unknown: essentially mainly blocking major roads and ring
2:12:47
roads around cities with their tractors in almost 600 locations
2:12:51
across the country. It's the fourth time such a protest has
2:12:55
happened so far this year, so causing considerable traffic
2:12:59
disruption and throughout the country. But at the same time,
2:13:03
the public here has considerable sympathy for their demands.
2:13:07
Indeed, I mean, Poland, like a lot of other nations in Europe
2:13:10
have to tread a fine line support Ukraine, whilst not
2:13:13
upsetting your own farmers back home. To what extent will this
2:13:17
move by the European Union protected Polish farmers do you
2:13:21
think
2:13:21
a bit could not enough the Polish government, which
2:13:25
actually backs the farmers key demands will be happy that more
2:13:30
Ukrainian products can be restricted but it wanted caps to
2:13:33
kick in once imports reach levels seen in 2021. Ie before
2:13:38
Ukraine had tariff free access to the EU market when Ukrainian
2:13:41
imports to Poland were much lower. Plus, the farmers
2:13:44
themselves want an immediate suspension of tariff free access
2:13:47
for all Ukrainian agricultural imports because they say family
2:13:52
run farms in Poland simply can't compete against big Ukrainian
2:13:57
agribusiness and they have a second demand. They also want EU
2:14:01
climate proposals that they say will raise Polish farmers costs
2:14:04
thrown out.
2:14:05
Adam Curry: There it is your climate change screwing the
2:14:07
farmers. There's the global international cabal that took
2:14:11
over Ukraine, screwing the farmers giving it all to the big
2:14:17
multinationals. But no it's China boots China. Meanwhile,
2:14:22
there's there's news on the Russia front DMZ would put that
2:14:26
put a time, demilitarized zone looks like it's a possum. Oh
2:14:31
wait before I get there. About Poland. We were wrong. I was
2:14:35
wrong certainly about Donald Tusk, thinking that his twin
2:14:39
brother died in that Smolensk accident in quotes. We have Adam
2:14:45
and Ana boots on the ground in Poland. They said no, no, no.
2:14:50
Donald Tusk? Yes, he is since for Arab he is the President now
2:14:54
of course of the Communist Party. Not really well, Paul.
2:15:00
And not that he had a twin brother. He was thought to be an
2:15:04
accomplice though to the accident of the plane crashed in
2:15:08
Smolensk in Russia where half the Polish government perished,
2:15:10
including the den President left Kaczynski who did have the twin
2:15:14
brother, your soul, Jaroslaw and he is still alive and kicking in
2:15:19
to us main opponent opponents up until today. And they have some
2:15:24
other fun little details in there about what's going on in
2:15:27
Poland with a boots on the ground report in the show notes
2:15:30
if you want to read it now, back to the demilitarized zone looks
2:15:33
like it's a possibility.
2:15:35
Unknown: Speaking in the wake of his electoral victory, Russian
2:15:37
President Vladimir Putin threatened that the only way to
2:15:40
protect his country was to create a security zone.
2:15:43
A newsgroup show, where we will be forced at some point when we
2:15:47
deem it appropriate to create a certain sanitary zone in the
2:15:51
current territories, the fish under caves regimes control to
2:15:55
create a security zone that will be quite difficult to cross with
2:15:59
the means of destruction that the enemy is using. Primarily,
2:16:02
of course, we did this for in manufacturing in
2:16:05
the frontline stretch for 1000 kilometers across eastern and
2:16:08
southern Ukraine. The President did not provide further details
2:16:11
on how such a zone would be implemented by Ukrainian
2:16:15
presidential aides that this statement was evidence that the
2:16:17
war will only escalate that
2:16:20
Adam Curry: I don't understand I heard quite clearly in the
2:16:23
report that Putin said a sanitary zone which I kind of
2:16:27
like that would be under control of the key Kyiv regime
2:16:33
John C Dvorak: I didn't hear that
2:16:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah let's again
2:16:38
Unknown: curity zone
2:16:39
a nice Guccio we will be forced at some point when we deem it
2:16:43
appropriate to create a certain sanitary zone in the current
2:16:47
territories the fish under thieves regimes control
2:16:50
Adam Curry: under keeps regimes control.
2:16:53
John C Dvorak: I can hear keep I don't know what that word was
2:16:55
his cave.
2:16:57
Adam Curry: cave he saying keep under caves. Why don't we try to
2:17:00
create
2:17:00
Unknown: a certain sanitary zone in the current territories the
2:17:04
fish under thieves regimes control their caves regime
2:17:07
control?
2:17:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can I can hear where you hear that. But
2:17:11
I'm not sure that's what he said.