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John C Dvorak: outstanding
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Unknown: Adam curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak
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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: chemtrails and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the country here in FEMA
Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we want to remind
you that weather is not climate.
Unless it is I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. That's
right. Beautiful day here in
Hill Country. Fredericksburg,
Texas is beautiful. It was
beautiful. We had a couple of
days out
John C Dvorak: here too. It's
supposed to be raining. Oh,
Adam Curry: sorry to hear that.
What are the algos telling you
to be worried about today
everybody? Please check yourself
check your amygdala make sure
you're worried about all the
right things. Hey, before we
even get started, I want to say
you know Tina is on her way to
Florida. So last night she
actually left to yesterday, so I
had a chance to watch the movie
produced by Dana Brunetti. No
agenda executive producer
GranTurismo though
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Wow.
Adam Curry: I have seen a lot of
race movies. I would say this is
the best one. It should I agree.
It should receive an Oscar for
something. Well, too late. No,
no. And I also
John C Dvorak: I use it to say I
got to see it on IMAX so you can
bet that was it's
Adam Curry: everyone had warned
me it starts a little slow. A
little slow. It granted a little
did a little bit for a second.
Oh yeah, it
John C Dvorak: does start a
little slow. But I thought it
speeds up like a car.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, it was
so good. And I loved the casting
of Jan's mom. Geri Halliwell,
Gary Halliwell. Cherry cheer
Gary Halliwell. Spice Girl.
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: I thought that was
great. With Oprah's great
casting to put her in. Notice
that know that? Because that
means that you even you and I
can get into his movies. Right?
To put a Spice Girl in your
racing movie. Come on, we can
get in there. And
congratulations to Ashlynn speed
number 32. No a generation
racer. She's racing F four.
Yeah, she's moved up. No sooner
have we talked about her? Have
we helped her career? Have we
put her on the podium? Then she
goes to Formula four. Yes, this
is great. I'm telling you f1 f1
for the win. Let's see. Well,
they've knocked the bridge down.
John C Dvorak: This I love
watching that rich go down over
and over. Man Well damn this
thing. There's
Adam Curry: there's a lot of
speculation, a lot of a lot of
information a lot of things we
do know we don't know. Of
course.
John C Dvorak: Well we know now
that the more important thing
is, they've got to change the
name of the bridge because
Francis got key is a bad guy.
Unknown: He's a racist to
Francis Scott Key Bridge. Now a
barrier for a key shipping lane,
the Port of Baltimore is
expected to be closed
indefinitely. Please investigate
the collision that caused it to
collapse and work to clear the
wreckage is critically important
to our economy. Last year, the
port processed over 52 million
tons of foreign cargo or some
$80 billion each day it shut
down a $217 million trade loss
and while Baltimore handles just
3% of container volume for the
Eastern Gulf Coast's it's the
top US port for automobile
imports and exports. Nearly
850,000 vehicles passed through
last year. The port is also
crucial for energy exports
shipping some 20 million tons of
coal per year most to India,
it's a key lifeline for the
local economy as well accounting
for more than 15,000 direct jobs
and nearly 140,000 indirect jobs
generating $3.3 billion in
personal income.
We're looking at not having
ships coming in for no one knows
how long at this point, you
know, and that's going to affect
the lives of longshoremen and
stevedores and tugboat crew,
some
40 ships remain stranded in
Baltimore Harbor automakers like
Ford, GM and Volkswagen say they
will be rerouting their shipping
to avoid major disruptions, the
accident certain to have a
massive impact on the regional
supply chain and the local
economy. Yeah.
Adam Curry: The fallout you
know, really bad.
John C Dvorak: That was a better
I have a report from that
report. Where did you get that?
Adam Curry: That was from Papa
France. 24. It was good, right?
Because it had the economic
stuff
John C Dvorak: and a bunch of
good stuff. Listen, here's what
NPR did.
Adam Curry: Let me see The NPR
here we go see it as
Unknown: divers continue their
search for missing construction
workers following the collapse
of a bridge in Baltimore.
Investigators are looking at
evidence in the case. Apparently
out of control container ships
smashed into the bridges support
structure early Tuesday morning,
causing the massive structure to
crash into the water and under
the ship. The bodies of two
workers are recovered day other
workers who are on the bridge at
the time are missing and
presumed dead. The Biden
administration is promising an
aggressive effort to reopen the
Port of Baltimore to shipping
traffic and rebuild the
structure.
John C Dvorak: We got on. I
know. I just as an aside, I do
have a kind of an interesting
tidbit clip. Okay.
Unknown: Remember station w wipr
talked to one of their co
workers who said he was
scheduled to work on the bridge
the next morning, he said the
men held from Guatemala,
Honduras, El Salvador and
Mexico. Tragedy. Oh, yeah, no,
we're all
John C Dvorak: a bunch of
illegals that we're working on
to deal with that's why they
don't talk about it.
Adam Curry: In fact, the
president of Mexico has already
complained. Let me see. Lopez
Obrador said that insensitive
irresponsible politicians did
not understand the contribution
of migrants in the US. They
found two bodies in a pickup
truck. Yeah, that's that's your
that's your your high paying
good union jobs. That's right.
Dignity. Yeah, they illegals
working on of course, fixing the
potholes. We have boots on the
ground. By the
John C Dvorak: way, try to stop
a second. So I went into my
tires leaking. Oh, no. And so I
had to get a new expensive tire.
Because it wasn't warrantied
because it was caused by a
pothole. You had pothole damage
to my tire is going to cost me a
lot of money,
Adam Curry: you need some
illegals. I'm sure we can get
some let's go to the Home Depot
and have them and pick them up
and have them fill up your
potholes. boots on the ground.
From one of our producers, he
works for a port company owned
by SSA Marine, which controls
port operations at the Baltimore
marine port. This is why we have
the best podcast in the
universe, we have the best
producers in the universe.
Everybody's an expert at
something, I'm sure this guy has
been sitting around listening to
the show forever. Thinking is
great, I have nothing much to
contribute, then all of a sudden
Whoa. And that's when you email
us that's how you're supposed to
do it. It was confirmed there
were two pilots and control the
vessel the vessel was leaving
the port after being loaded
speed six knots after they lost
power. They issued a mayday
which allowed emergency traffic
closure of the bridge. And I
mean all those videos, it
doesn't look like there was a
lot of time so that losing
power, there was enough time for
the May Day and for them to
close the traffic on the bridge
guaranteed it was late. But so I
think that's could have been
much worse. They followed all
the emergency procedures, which
includes emergency dropping of
the anchor, the smoke, this is
from internal communications. So
take it for what it's worth. Of
course, the smoke scene is from
the emergency generators, which
takes several minutes to kick
in, they tried to stop the ship,
but it was too short of a
distance. The cause of the power
failures still unknown. Although
dirty fuel is a possibility. It
seems they lost control of the
steering while motor and
propeller was still going. A
collision was inevitable with
the vessel this size and this
amount of displacement confirmed
that people died but you
probably have that information.
Thank you very much to our boots
on the ground. So that's the
official word there at the port.
Now, it was really odd. My
neighbor out here, Laura Logan,
she was on the stick right away
about this right away, calling
it a cyber event. Yes, and she
was all over a banyan show and
Newsmax or news nation, whatever
it is. And now let
John C Dvorak: me just let me
just say two of them one is
Newsmax and the other one is
news. Naisha there's
Adam Curry: two different
things. Now I hold my neighbor
in high regard. I know who she's
married to. I know that she does
know
John C Dvorak: your beer
friends. Yeah, they were
friends.
Adam Curry: She started coming
to our church as well which is
interesting. She definitely has
intelligence sources. And now
I'm going to play two clips. The
first one is from winch because
she has the same story is very
long. So I tried to get the two
concise clips. But the first one
is really her sources. And
although the none of her
reporting that I've seen she is
she's staking her reputation on
this, which for someone like
Laura is a big deal
Unknown: US intelligence
elements within US intelligence,
have identified this as a cyber
attack. And the way that this is
done is using a technique which
is called spoofing. So there's a
lot of conversation that you
know about the feed, the ship
was going that calls were made
to emergency services or to the
Harbormaster. And, you know,
there's a lot of conversation
about, exactly, you know, all
the different variances that
happened to you. But what they
don't want you to talk about,
right, because they introduce
all these other things, so that
you will not have a conversation
about how this is done. It's a
very simple technique, and it's
called spoofing in the
intelligence community. And
basically, what you do is you
identify what is the GPS signal,
we all know this is satellite
base that the ship is using to
power its, you know, its GPS,
and to guide that ship on its
course. And you create a more
powerful signal, so you
overwhelm the signal that
they're using. And what this
means is effectively, whoever is
on that ship piloting. And when
that pilot is on board, a
complex maneuver like that has
to be handled by the harbor
pilot. So he's watching his GPS
signal, and it's telling him
that he is on course, that
everything is fine. But now he's
looking at what he sees. And it
doesn't look the same as what's
on the GPS. And what the harbor
pilot and the crew are now
looking at is as they're getting
closer and closer, they're
realizing Wait a minute, we're
not in the channel, what we're
seeing with our own eyes doesn't
match what's on the GPS, but the
GPS is telling us we're still on
core. And so then they start to
panic, right. And as they
realize that they're in a really
bad situation, they're now
trying no likelihood, right?
What they're trying to do
everything that they can to stop
it, but at a certain point,
physics takes over the weight of
the ship, the weight of the
cargo, the speed of the water,
the sharpness of the turn,
there's nothing that you can do
at that point.
Adam Curry: So this is Chi
stands by this, that it was GPS
spoofing. And it was dark of
night, and it was timed at
night. So that the you know,
just have the, there's not a
whole bunch of eyes would be on
the bridge and seeing what was
happening. And here's a clip
from the that was little
yesterday. Here's a clip from
this morning about our sources.
Unknown: I'm talking to people
who are on the inside some who
are in active duty, some who are
retired, and everyone literally
from critical infrastructure in
Department of Homeland Security
to the intelligence agencies,
they know there's no other it's
there. This is a cyber attack on
a critical infrastructure
corridor for the United States.
This is you know, for those
people think this is just a
river. This is in Baltimore,
what is this matter? You don't
know anything about what you're
talking about? This the I 94
corridor on the Eastern Seaboard
is literally what connects the
north and south and when I talk
about hazardous materials,
right, this is a brilliant, well
planned strategic attack on one
of the most important supply
chains in the United States of
America. The only other one is
in the western side in
California. That's the only one
that's busier. And what you have
does you now have shut it down?
Adam Curry: What do you think
about that? Is that bridge
really that important? Is it
visit vital for our
infrastructure?
John C Dvorak: Apparently, it
wasn't vital before 1978 when it
was built.
Adam Curry: I always have to
talk to her about two things.
One, I've got to talk to her
about the Right. Right. And and
also I should not tell him not
to stand too close to jet
engines. Don't want to get
justice. Kidding. Kidding. I
mean, she's staking her
reputation on it, which is this
way.
John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting thesis that you'd
have to try to figure out how it
could be done to overwhelm and
it would have been reported by
more than one I would think it
was it couldn't be targeted
unless they had to I don't know
how they could do that. But it's
possible, I suppose. To target
one. Oh,
Adam Curry: no. I mean, it's a
bit much GPS spoofing is is very
easy. That's easy. That's super
easy.
John C Dvorak: Is it easy to to
do it so nobody else notices?
Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: you just need a
transmitter that is just closer
to the receiver then blocks out
the satellite signal?
Absolutely.
John C Dvorak: That I think is
the I'm not I really I like to
hear from some experts that we
have that.
Adam Curry: By the way. 1600
airplanes in the last four days
have had GPS issues over the
Baltic Sea. I mean, this we know
this happens. It's the easiest
thing to do was
John C Dvorak: also a solar
flare, which was attributed to
this issue. Oh, I hadn't heard
that one was there and yeah,
they came out and said well, the
solar flare has been causing
trouble.
Adam Curry: But spoofing is very
easy. We GPS it's really is. I
mean, you just have to have a
signal sending, sending out the
the skewed data, but it just
seems like wow, okay, and then
that doesn't account for the
timing of the engine going out
and I mean that there's a lot of
a lot of holes a lot of holes
but I still don't know if this
because her big claim is that
this will take four to five
years that the structure you
have no idea how bad this is
because of the cement pylon that
probably you don't have to build
a new bridge. That's likely
true. But is it really? Is it
really that crippling? I mean, I
know that you won't be able to
get your Mercedes Benz on time I
heard I heard the CEO on CNBC
Oh, well, we'll get your your
your Evie Mercedes Benz to you
as soon as possible. I don't
know that. That's the thing that
only she's talking about. It's
much more interesting to me than
then the GPS spoofing is is this
really that important of,
John C Dvorak: of a cord was a
3% cord. We know that right?
Adam Curry: But she's talking
about the bridge itself. It's
not the port. It's the bridge
John C Dvorak: though. The
bridge Yeah, will take a while
to build but she says the one
that was put up was, I guess
thrown up. That was a piece of
crap. I've never seen anything
collapse like that. Well, the
whole thing looks like a
TinkerToy going down.
Adam Curry: Well, if you I mean,
hitting that pylon is I mean,
that's yeah,
John C Dvorak: we're just single
point of failure to that
extreme. That was poorly
designed. If did that's the
case. Okay. Jhansi.
Adam Curry: Dvorak is terrible
engineer. I mean,
John C Dvorak: did you see the
tweet just looking at you not to
be a chicken? You didn't know a
bad AK. Did
Adam Curry: you see the Twin
Towers? How about that?
Unknown: They will I
John C Dvorak: don't think that
was legit. Well, maybe this was
this seemed legit. They just
said,
Adam Curry: How about building
seven that you're you're
complaining about a bridge, that
thing fell down out of sympathy?
So I don't know that it will
unfold. But if so no one else is
talking about that, to me is the
most interesting part. Is it
really that bad? And man, it's
like when you get a whole bunch
of people calling you from
intelligence. Oh, yeah. You
know, is that? I mean, that
could be Q level stuff. Like,
oh, this is this is it, man.
This is it. And by the way, now
that I have you on the phone,
JFK Jr. is still alive.
John C Dvorak: Which is a big
Macedon, which is,
Adam Curry: which is a big one
out here. That's a big one. A
lot of people talking about
that. I
John C Dvorak: find that
peculiar that it would be so
prevalent in that area. Oh,
Adam Curry: it's it's very
interesting.
John C Dvorak: You're living in
an area that is loaded with
crackpots. That feel
Adam Curry: right at home? Yeah,
really. It's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful, beautiful
thing. All right. So that was
why we really just don't have
any more everybody's seen.
Everybody's seen the video
footage. I can understand where
if you hit them. It's so it's
such a perfect hit. That I mean,
even if they just hit the trust
of the bridge, it would have
taken that thing out. But it
really hit just the sweet spot,
which you don't really expect to
happen. So and and if it is, is
it. More important to me is is
it really going to cripple our
internal infrastructure? That's
the I thought you would know
more about the I 95 Corridor
seems like something you would
know I know
John C Dvorak: about the I 95
corridor? Yeah, but far as I'm
concerned as back east I'm, I'm
a West Coast guy gonna carry
Adam Curry: that's the spirit
John.
John C Dvorak: We looked at
China for our way of cleaning.
Adam Curry: Well, all right.
Since we're talking about China,
this is hasn't really hit the
news that hard here in the
States, but it's big in the UK.
Unknown: Yeah, it's dominating
the British papers today stored
in what the Daily Mail calls and
highly unusual move. The US and
UK publicly identified China as
a source of a decade's long
cyber attack campaign that
campaign targeted among others,
politicians, journalists,
institutions in the UK, the US
and New Zealand now says that
its parliamentary system was
also targeted in 2021. America,
the US has announced that it
announced criminal charges and
sanctions against seven hackers
who they say live in China.
Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister,
British Prime Minister is now
under pressure to do more, to
fight and to sanction those who
carried out these attacks. acts,
particularly as anger is growing
over the fact that Britain only
slapped sanctions on to hackers.
They belong to a group called
advanced persistent threat or a
PT not to give you an idea of
the scale of these attacks,
Adam Curry: what kind of what
kind of hacker name is that?
Fear sitting down with a bunch
of hackers like oh, we got up a
cool name like a non Oh, yeah.
advanced persistent threat.
Yeah, nailed it, bro. advanced
Unknown: persistent threat or a
PT not to give you an idea of
the scale of these attacks. For
in one instance, an attack on
the UK Electoral Commission gave
the hackers access to the names
and addresses of 40 million
people registered to vote. One
MP, saying Britain turned up to
a gunfight with a wooden spoon
is in a way in a bid to describe
the response of Britain to
punishing these hackers as the
Times reports it, China is set
to be declared a threat to
national security. So
Adam Curry: bemrose in the troll
room says that a PT is what the
white hats give to groups who
they don't have the name of and
then they'll often put a number
so a PT 35, advanced print, so
it's not what they call
themselves. It's what we do with
our good guys call them. And it
sounds to me like an attack on
five eyes. Now the through a New
Zealand, the UK, the US, all of
us, it's your pivot to
Indochina. There you go. It's so
much confusing. collected
John C Dvorak: a names of 40
million people. Okay. Yeah. So
why it's called
Adam Curry: Facebook, what are
you talking about? No,
John C Dvorak: many Facebook?
Adam Curry: Many, many Facebook.
So then I hear about that
Beijing is filing a lawsuit with
the World Trade Organization
against the United States. Yes,
this is a good story, the same
issue that the European Union
had on Well, I don't think the
European Union is filed any
suit. They're complaining about
the IRA, the infrastructure
Reduction Act, which gives
incentives to us electric
vehicle makers, and they're
saying it's racist. It's, it's
discriminatory. And now that's
one thing, first of all, Boo
China. That's one thing, but
then Janet Yellen, comes on
Andrea Mitchell show and accuses
China.
Unknown: And then he finally
asked you about the New York
Times report, but other
reporting that we've done on
Elon Musk and his relationship
with China, obviously, Tesla
competing now against their
cheaper EVs. But he's really
dependent on that Chinese
market, very tied in with them.
He has huge defense contracts
his satellites are satellites we
rely on for so much of our
communication isn't a national
security problem. For women and
his rockets, of course, is it a
national security problem for
our government to have so much
reliance on this one
entrepreneur? Well, look, we
take national security very
seriously and want to protect
our national security. Our
desire is not to shut down
economic relations with China,
we want to diversify our supply
chains. But many American firms
operate in China and gained from
the ability to sell to China's
large market. China obviously
sells a lot in the United
States. And the competition
among our firms is by and large,
a healthy thing. We want to
stabilize that relationship and
not shut it down. But also we
need to make sure that the
playing field is level and we
are concerned about Chinese
subsidies and the impact on our
firms.
Adam Curry: So she's saying the
Chinese are subsidizing their
companies. Well, now now now
brakeman clump wishes where we
say in the old country, that
brace that breaks my clog.
John C Dvorak: Oh, terrible
saying,
Adam Curry: Well, if you had
wooden shoes, then you'd be
you'd understand it. This is a
lot. So are we going down into
this
John C Dvorak: something going
on right now? There is a mu BYD
which is the company that was
evey cars, supposedly going to
build a mega factory in Mexico
bloodbath, the bloodbath car,
bloodbath company, BYD bloody
your dream, you're so the
bloodbath company, BYD is
rolling out this summer, a
massive campaign to introduce
the BYD electric vehicle to the
United States, huh Interesting
you can go to their website and
you can see the movie about and
they're gonna be they're gonna
be sponsoring the big world cup
or there's some soccer you have
some soccer
Adam Curry: well that's not
that's not that's not how you
get the Americans you know, I
John C Dvorak: know but they
don't really know they figured
it out Americans are very slowly
turning to this yeah they're
Adam Curry: sponsoring UEFA
which is the Euro chaotic that
is very odd. Why would they but
John C Dvorak: anyway so we have
the this coming and supposed to
roll out to summer and we're
going to start seeing we don't
see it what Chinese cars what's
the big threat? What Chinese car
is on the road? Name one.
Adam Curry: I can't that's what
I thought they're all in Russia.
John C Dvorak: Right? Why does
even bother selling does they
got Russia to market? Goodbye
Mercedes. Maybe this whole thing
is about you setting yourself
they bring down this bridge.
Mercedes can't bring cars here.
They can't sell them to Russia.
They're screwed. Maybe this is
targeting them. Oh, whatever the
case
Adam Curry: like that. This?
Okay, but they were I thought
they were gonna put them in
Mexico.
John C Dvorak: But the Mercedes?
No, the BYD. Oh no, they're
gonna build them in Mexico so
they can get cheaper labor and
roll them into the country and
save a few bucks a day. They're
not building him here because no
one's gonna let him do that. But
they are going to be rolled out
this summer. But tonight, I
don't think it'd be the Mexican
ones because I don't think that
factories done or even started
for all I know. Anyway, the this
is all suspicious. And it's like
a, you know, free trade is
supposed to be free trade and we
subsidize our people. They
subsidize their people everybody
subsidize, we're supposed to.
Adam Curry: The thing is, it's
such a joke. All of this to me
is a joke. We are in perpetual
relationship with China.
John C Dvorak: They buy it
again. And there's nothing we
can do about it. Well, no,
Adam Curry: I mean, we they buy
our debt and then they have
dollars and what are you gonna
do with the dollars? I'll go buy
some land? Buy some real estate
buy San Francisco. Doesn't China
own a lot of real estate in San
Francisco?
John C Dvorak: Not that I know
of. I thought they did. Well,
that would be a good ploy.
Adam Curry: Wouldn't surprise
me. That's what I always heard
China. I'd
John C Dvorak: ever heard this
on our ship. I mean, Chinese is
a big Chinatown in San
Francisco. There's a lot of
Chinese in San Francisco and
Adam Curry: Roush.
John C Dvorak: Rouse them get
rid of them. They've tried to do
that before how and why
Adam Curry: buyers from China
are snatching up Bay Area homes.
John C Dvorak: The Arizona San
Francisco Oh,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Okay,
we're gonna be technical about
it. This is from 2014
John C Dvorak: be technical
about it now. Okay. Well,
Adam Curry: the Bay Area,
California, you know, the part
you care about? Well,
John C Dvorak: if I was in
China, I would be by I know in
my head where I live, which is
in Albany Hill, I called China
hill.
Adam Curry: But isn't the whole
point that we're just in this,
we are the customer, we buy
their stuff? They buy our debt,
it's the circle, it goes all it?
I mean, actually, Germany had
this with Russia, which is gone
now. Germany would build
Mercedes, you know, sell them to
Russia. And Russia supplied all
kinds of stuff back to them,
including, you know, Deutsche
Marks until we throw them off of
Swift.
John C Dvorak: With a bunch of
idiots.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, did you? I
think I had was it here? Here it
is. Reuters reports now, Swift
planning launch of new central
bank digital currency platform
in 12 months. You know, you
gotta wonder,
John C Dvorak: you know which
side of the argument you're on?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: of course, I'm, I'm
totally on the side of that.
They're going to do this. It's
inevitable.
John C Dvorak: So I didn't say I
mean, it may do it. It doesn't
mean it's gonna be a success.
Oh, no, we're gonna get rid of
cash. I'm in your life right
before your dad. Yes.
Adam Curry: Before you're dead
even Yes. Yes. It's already gone
practically. For all practical
purposes. Yes. Oh, we're
definitely going to get rid of
cash. Definitely. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's a huge
mistake. Why?
Adam Curry: But I mean, the
whole point of a digital central
bank digital currency is to
easily be able to inflate and
deflate and manage you know, the
money. The money money. Yeah,
take Yes. Exactly. To take your
money. That's and they know what
they just got one step closer.
And Texas slim has been has been
warning about this. We've been
talking about it for quite a
while and they finally did it in
the omnibus bill. Well, you're
gonna hear Massie and some rando
rancher, well,
Unknown: you know, the left
wants to ban cattle and before
you can ban anything you need a
registry you need to know where
it's at and who into it. And
that's why they want to tag
cattle. We've seen it happen in
Europe. Now on the right, you've
got some cronies who stand to
make some money from these ear
tags. They're the ones who get
the $15 million earmark doesn't
go to USDA, it's going to quote
stakeholders. That is a code
word for private entities are
getting a handout. And what
they'll do, they'll verticalized
the industry with this the big
corporations, you know, you just
talked about China, there for
corporations control meat
processing United States, once
owned by China, one's own
Brazil, by Brazil, American
ranchers will be working for
those organizations if this
tracking goes through, because
they'll verticalized the
industry
said, What's your response to
this tracking of cattle? Are
you concerned as well?
Oh, yes, I am. It is the key
that opens the door
to end to the end of independent
producers across the country.
And it is a private property
rights issue that we really have
to consider here. When we start
talking about RFID ID and data
monitoring monitoring of farmers
and ranchers and their cattle
herd size, we open up to what
the door for what is going on in
the European Union. And under
the rules of sustainability,
sustainable development, we know
that the RFID has led to a land
seizure in the name of climate
change. So once we open that
door, there's no going back and
they can come and they can
monitor, measure, report and
verify everything that's going
on your on your farmer ranch and
then maybe down the road in the
name of climate change they can
come and dictate to you the
rules of their production which
is subjective on from a third
party verification and it is
extremely dangerous to private
property rights. This is a
Liberty taker not a Liberty
maker and
Adam Curry: this is all part of
what Larry Fink from Blackrock
calls you know I was he calls it
a commodity now it's like
creating an wish I remember what
Larry Fink of Blackrock said
tokenizing every asset that's
what is tokenizing so they want
to tokenize the herd and then
you can of course you can do all
kinds of financial stuff once
it's tokenized and you can track
it and you put your key put your
cow on the blockchain on
whatever CB DC blockchain there
is and then you have total
control total control this is
this is happening this is really
happening the except you know
these guys they should have
Texas slim on don't get this
Rando guy on Slim's much better
better look better had
everything much better. So yeah,
the everything's going to be
digital and although we keep
laughing about climate change
they're all so crazy that it's
creeping up on us bit by bit and
then before you know it sorry,
no be for you because you drove
too much you don't have an Eevee
John C Dvorak: so the thing that
didn't get much news coverage by
the mainstream but was on some
of the was on YouTube and
elsewhere was the big hailstorm
in Texas that took out a solar
array that's miles and miles of
these panels all busted up by
the by the by the incoming mail.
Gee, who would have ever thought
that was that even covered in
the local news where you are?
Yes. Yeah, it wasn't covered
here
Adam Curry: a little while your
California you don't care about
the rest of the nation. Dead
Well,
John C Dvorak: that's there's
truth to that. Okay. Here's your
new solar array. Here's the
solar energy clip I
Adam Curry: Have you have you
have a clip about it. Oh, not
John C Dvorak: about that
because I can't I never saw it
except on YouTube. By
Adam Curry: the way when when it
hails and we've had a couple
good hail storms. Two things
happen one you keep getting
emails Hey, it's roof repair guy
here. Want me to check out your
roof. And the other thing is you
always hear someone some poor
sap like oh man. My kid parked
the car on the street.
John C Dvorak: Didn't think of
course he had all dinged up
Adam Curry: windshields broken,
windshields broken and love. You
can
John C Dvorak: break a
windshield with a hail stone and
you can break a solar panel with
one Treasury
Unknown: Secretary Janet Yellen
toward a factory in Georgia
today that will soon start
making solar cells for the first
time in seven years. And Bureau
Scott Horsley reports Yellen
says federal tax credits helped
pave the way for the plants
reopening Neva
factory in Norcross, Georgia. It
was one of the first plants in
the country to manufacture solar
cells when it opened back in
2007. It struggled to compete
though with cheaper solar
imports, and the factory was
shuttered 10 years later. Now
it's and he was trying again.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
credits clean energy tax breaks
and the inflation reduction Oh.
Domestic manufacturer X
ray thanks to the IRA investing
in clean energy is a good value
proposition. And for the future
yellow notes
Adam Curry: that solar energy
accounts for more than half the
new power generating capacity
added in the US last year. So
this is just proof this is proof
that one wasn't a trillion
dollars I think the inflation
Reduction Act was I think a
trillion plus yeah a trillion
plus dollars proof that it just
went to private companies may go
I'm obey Janet, because you sent
it to us we'll make some solar
panels. Yeah, it'd be great.
John C Dvorak: You wish to in
other words, they couldn't be
profitable making them
competing. Exactly. We think a
level playing field with the
Chinese came in and just blew
everybody away. China's
Adam Curry: right them. They
shouldn't be suing us. We're no
good, though. They're no good
either. Hey, oh, it's
John C Dvorak: just the system's
no good.
Adam Curry: Since we're on
climate change. I have a big
mystery answered. Something that
we've been talking about on this
podcast for well, probably since
its existence. And if it came
out of the blue all of a sudden
from the high wire, you know,
the high wire Dell big tree.
John C Dvorak: I'm familiar with
it. I've never listened to it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, during
COVID He had all kinds of great
information. Oh, well, good for
you. I think Dell used to
produce medical shows on M five
M like the doctors I believe he
produced that one. No
John C Dvorak: Good for him.
Yeah. So he Yeah, we need people
like this. I guess he's Yes,
exactly. Because he can't get a
job anywhere else.
Adam Curry: So we had on climate
engineering expert, Jim Lee. And
man, that he he just laid it all
out and explained why we've been
seeing all those Tic Tac Toe
things in the sky, which is
seems to have increased
incredibly in the past. Do you
have a lot of chemtrails in the
sky where you are? Or you have
nothing? Nothing ever happened?
Nothing bad in California. You
know,
John C Dvorak: there's I saw
like one case, one trail maybe a
week ago. No. And oh,
Adam Curry: so but you've seen
the pictures of people taking
pictures of the sky? Yeah, I've
seen these criss cross. Which it
Look, I've been a pilot since
2006. I've never seen it so bad
as it is now. But you know what?
This guy has solved the mystery
of the chemtrails,
Unknown: the Obama
administration while everybody
was having the Trump Hillary
Clinton election, you know, wall
to wall coverage. Everything
always happens. While nobody's
looking. Right? The Obama
administration signed the
federal alternative aviation
fuel emissions pact with the
European Union, China and the
ICA. This can be summed up in
just a couple word biofuels for
contrail control, which goes
back to what alrik Schumann was
saying, to change the chemical
constituents coming out of jet
aircraft, so that there's less
warming, more cooling contrails.
So I got in touch with the guy
at the FAA, who was testing the
biofuels. His name is Dr. Ranga.
Sai how thorry that he's the
head of the FAA aviation climate
change research initiative. And
I specifically asked him, and I
sent him the documentation as to
what did alrik Shuman mean by
less warming, more cooling
contrails predictable for
operational planning. He says,
We want more contrail induced
cirrus clouds by day and none by
night. This is this is intent. I
have this signed in writing
directly from the head of the
FAA s. ACC era.
Adam Curry: So if you've ever
looked up in the sky, he has
seen all those, I'll just call
out call them contrails. They
don't evaporate, they eventually
spread out and become a cloud
cover cirrus clouds, which are
the flat clouds. And this,
apparently what this Jim is
saying comes from a specific
mixture of biofuels that is used
in the aviation industry. And it
is in fact, what is creating
these grids in the sky. Now
Unknown: you look and you see
American Airlines pairing up
with Google artificial
intelligence to route planes
around contrail forming spaces
in the sky. These are called Ice
supersaturated regions,
basically Google AI and goes
back to what Ulrich Schumann had
actually created in 2010. He
pretty he brings something
called co sip. The contrail
Cirrus prediction tool. CO CIP
is involved is evolved to be
part of what's called the next
gen transportation system in
America. Oh, that's what makes
all the tic tac toes in the sky
will learn.
John C Dvorak: If it was Google
AI wouldn't knows contrails be
black?
Adam Curry: No. Why? Oh,
Unknown: wow, oh, hey, oh, part
of what's called the next gen
transportation system in
America. That's what makes all
the tic tac toes in the sky. It
is a supercomputer that routes
all the flights. And inside that
supercomputer is a subsystem
called the aviation environment
design tool. AED T in the ADT,
it tells planes, at what
altitude to fly, how much fuel
to burn all of these things. And
it takes in environmental
concerns into how it routes
flights. And
Adam Curry: that brings us right
back to the Biden Administration
with an executive order which we
already knew was coming. And
this is it.
Unknown: What did the Biden
administration just can't come
out with a report on solar
radiation modification? What
three areas of study did they
say they want to focus on?
Stratospheric Aerosol injection,
may call it solar radiation
modification, and cirrus cloud
theny. So what you have here is
a grand conspiracy between the
scientists who are trying to, as
they would put it, mitigate
global warming impacts from
aviation. But in reality, what
they're doing is they're turning
what's been 60 to 80 years worth
of pollution into an active
geoengineering program.
Adam Curry: I think it makes
total sense. They've always been
doing this. And we always knew
that one day they'll come I was
oh, no, we've got to do this
aerosol Bill Gates. Hello, Bill
Gates. We got to this aerosol
stuff because it's for climate
change. Well, they've been doing
it all along.
John C Dvorak: Well, when I was
a kid, they were always seeding
the clouds in California
constantly Sure. Seeding Yeah,
that's one thing what else still
claim it's still modification?
Yes, yes. But
Adam Curry: this is people had
been noticing they've been
noticing the criss crosses in
the sky. And here's your answer.
Your This is the time remember
next gen, I was all over next
gen because that was going to be
a whole bunch of things. And
while I was looking at the pilot
was airplanes and how they were
going to decrease separation
with a really with the under the
hood as they were changing the
fuel, so that we have more of
these clouds that spread out and
is basically ruining our days.
It's it ruins
John C Dvorak: you go in there,
but okay, ruins your day.
Adam Curry: You know, nice blue
skies. Oh, no, we can't have
that. These people are crazy.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's for
sure.
Adam Curry: I ruining our blue
skies. Okay, one more climate
change clip, then we can move
away from that. This is the
farmers are protesting once
again, they're in Europe.
They're in the year, a year now
to control in Europe. They're
mad and they're going to
Brussels. They're throwing poop
everywhere. They're starting
fires. But just so you know, the
people that they are looking to
the politicians they're looking
to, to solve their issues to
help them reduce these
ridiculous climate change
regulations. There are let me
see what what political bent Do
you think they have? Could it be
Oh, tell me far right. Yeah,
probably count the number of
times.
Unknown: For the third time in a
few weeks, firecrackers and
smoke dark in the sky in
Brussels EU court. The
concessions given to them by the
EU so far have not been enough
for these farmers, particularly
the youngest among young people
have a lot of expenses, so are
most in need of fair income. For
the moment. This anger could
push these young people to move
away from the traditional vote
of the agricultural. It's
clear that it was more center
right or even right wing. Here,
all the cards are reshuffled,
and we don't know who the
farmers will turn to,
especially since for several
months in the European
Parliament, far right parties
have been moving into
traditional territory of the
array by casting themselves as
the spokespeople for farmers the
embrace of state interventionism
has been an ideological
evolution for certain far right
groups
can work very clearly in the
80s, we had far right groups,
typically the National Front in
France, which were more of a
neoliberal trend, but they have
evolved their discourse instead
of elements because it's an
opportunity to capitalize on
societal needs and perhaps
further broaden their electoral
base.
The far right other target As
the environmental measures of
the European Green Deal, which
remain at the heart of the
debate, despite already being
significantly watered down
recently
Adam Curry: by the EU, there you
go. What do we count? Yeah, far
John C Dvorak: right.
Adam Curry: Far Right. The far
right, whatever that means. I
think they said farm right. Was
farm right? Yeah. Well, they
don't you know, if you are
protesting and you're a farmer,
you're basically a Nazi.
John C Dvorak: That's yeah, that
makes nothing but sense. That's
Adam Curry: the whole idea.
Well, yeah, you what? Oh, no,
no, you're part of the far
right.
John C Dvorak: Not right. Not
conservative, although
Adam Curry: that bastion of
freedom. They're in Berkeley,
right where you are, you know,
the ones that don't care about
the rest of the country. Right.
Yeah. Are repealing repealing
its controversial ban on natural
gas appliances?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
couldn't. There was a little
old. Yeah, nobody was buying
into this one. Yeah,
Adam Curry: but New York is
still all in there yet. He is no
more pizza ovens. We actually
learned them into the idea. No
more monsters. It's crazy. The
UK though the Oxfordshire city
county council approved plans
this week to lock residents into
one of six zones to save the
planet from global warning
warming. Yep, this is the 15
Minute neighborhood, instead of
saying neighborhood under the
new scheme of residents wants to
leave their zone.
John C Dvorak: I love that.
Yeah. Well, you have to get a
visa.
Adam Curry: Citizen. If you want
to leave your zone, they'll need
permission. Yes, there it is.
There's your visa from the
council. And they will decide
who was worthy of freedom. I
think this is written with some
slant here. Under the new
scheme, residents will be
allowed to leave their zone a
maximum of 100 days per year. So
you have a there's your budget.
There's your climate budget 100
days a year, don't try to buy
anything outside of the zone.
Because they'll know
John C Dvorak: you go Amazon
know Amazon's behind it, you
know that right? But
Adam Curry: if you go to Well,
I'm sure they helping you. But
if you go to another zone and
get something to eat with your
cashless society, they'll know
that every resident has to
register their car. And then of
course, their cars will be
tracked via cameras around the
city. It's all coming. It's all
coming. It's so amazing. Between
that and four years of Trump, we
have to stop after you know, in
was it,
John C Dvorak: the show was 2028
is the end of no agenda
Adam Curry: just rise, the end
of the show just has to end we
can't handle it anymore. We
don't have the bandwidth for it.
And then, of course, with war in
Ukraine, with with the terror
attacks in Moscow, which now I
think we're Putin says we're
both right. It was Ukraine, with
the US in the UK. So it wasn't
just Ukraine. It was Ukraine
with the US in the UK, which by
the way, a lot of people have
deconstructed Victoria Newlands
comments at the end of February
in in Ukraine in Kyiv. embsay
Oh, yeah. And she was already
telegraphing it, which I thought
was about the Taurus missiles,
which Germany didn't give. But
here's that 38 second clip
again, where she talks about
some mighty big surprise
surprises,
Unknown: I have to say that I
leave tonight, more encouraged
about the unity and the results
about 2024 and its absolute
strategic importance for
Ukraine. I also leave more
confident that even as Ukraine
strengthens its defenses. Mr.
Putin is going to get some nice
surprises on the battlefield,
and that Ukraine will make some
very strong success as you see,
Adam Curry: that's where I
disagree with the
deconstructionist she says on
the battlefield.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I agree. I
agree with you. So I
Adam Curry: don't think I don't
think that was any telegraphing
by any means. And there's some
pretty some very lengthy
deconstructions of it.
John C Dvorak: But whatever
we'll take a concert hall
outside of Moscow is quite on
the battle the
Adam Curry: battlefield and now
Bo now ISIS ks every all ISIS K
they're threatening France
they're going to the threatening
the Olympics, so it's always
fun. It's always fun to to bring
bring back ISIS K.
John C Dvorak: But anyway, Mrs.
K is right. ISIS k is not really
anything to be brought back.
ISIS case stems from One
specific Province in Afghanistan
starts with a que ya Corazon
it's just a bunch of disillusion
Taliban guys the
Adam Curry: whole thing is
ridiculous it is it is
ridiculous it's ridiculous but
you know it makes everybody
worried and I read the shake
everybody up and but that
doesn't matter at all because
all anybody can talk about is
did he?
John C Dvorak: Did he did he did
did he clips and
Adam Curry: and I got there you
are right on cue to disappoint
me with a whole bunch of detail.
Yeah, of
John C Dvorak: course because I
unlike you, yes, you deal with
some popular storylines that you
reject out of hand. Wait, now
Adam Curry: hold on a second. I
have not rejected anything out
of hand. The I have said that
what is happening here is
they're washing the cup on the
outside. The inside is where all
the wickedness resides. This is
did he is just a cover for the
true wickedness. That's what I
said. Okay, what's
John C Dvorak: the true root
wickedness?
Adam Curry: Oh my god, the
lesbian witches who perform
witchcraft every single day in
front of our kids. Taylor Swift
Madonna. Rihanna,
John C Dvorak: was all in the
music industry, which is kind of
what he's brought up by this
Diddy thing. I lived with Sean
Puffy Combs for a year.
Unknown: That's the crazy thing
that that was Ellie Reed's idea
right? It's
Adam Curry: this is what you
want me to play? No, but
John C Dvorak: this is good.
This is from 2016 Asha This is
Asher. This is Asher complaining
about you know when he was a kid
he was taken it's always by the
way they also don't have all
these clips. But Bieber I guess
was was taken in. Yes, by Diddy
to this camp by the
Adam Curry: way. It's it's like
not a secret within the music
business. That Diddy is gay.
This is like oh,
John C Dvorak: well in fact, I
don't have that clip either. I
can just good. One of the guys
one of the guys that one of the
guys who's doing the mate one of
the main complainers call it and
he uses the term virgin whole
year kind of got which kind of I
don't know how they got it on
Fox but they did. Williams he I
think it was who it was. Oh cat.
Well, he says that did he wants
to do everyone's you know and he
goes on about this. He said you
just have to say no. Yeah,
that's Katt Williams. And you
just have to say no, and you
know you back up. But yes, it
seems as Joe in general.
Adam Curry: If did he even
whispers the words virgin and
hold to you? You need to say no,
I agree. This is very sound
advice. very sound advice.
John C Dvorak: But yeah, you can
let's play a short clip. I lived
with Sean Puffy Combs for
Unknown: a year. That's the
crazy thing that that was la
Reed's idea, right? We're
sending yo yo to say the whole
puffy flavor campaign with 13.
What we went
John C Dvorak: there to see the
lifestyle right. And I saw it.
But I don't know if I could
indulge and understand what I
was even looking at. It was it
was pretty wild. So nobody tried
to you know, some woman didn't
come alive. Okay.
Unknown: What I did say is that
there were very curious things
taking place. And I didn't
necessarily understand
Would you ever send your kid to
puffy camp?
Adam Curry: Yeah, so it was
actually just so you understand
the the Genesis that puffy took
Usher on under his wing and
Usher was the one who quote
unquote, discovered Bieber, and
then he sent Bieber off to be
with with Diddy for two weeks.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
sorted. Well,
Adam Curry: yes. Hello. Oh, my,
there's gambling going on in the
music business. What you don't
hear very much of is Clive
Davis. He's the one who
discovered Diddy if we go all
the way up the chain. And by the
way, if you notice, Diddy is now
a rapper. What happened to music
industry executive, which is
what he really is, because he
runs all these labels and sub
labels. And then of course,
y'all curry you're not doing the
research. This is Epstein. Okay,
because yes. Oh, they're
blackmailing everybody. I still
need to see one videotape from
Epstein.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Why they
would show us anything. Where's
Adam Curry: the Hillary Clinton
video that that four cops
committed suicide over? Where's
that?
John C Dvorak: You think they
would get leaked somehow? You'd
think? Well, the clips I have
are if I didn't take the
mainstream media. I took Jesse
Walters. That's not mainstream
Adam Curry: media. Well, it is
but it's it's more mainstream
than most. Well,
John C Dvorak: the reason I say
it's not is because it's like
watching a hysterical old lady.
Okay, Jesse Walters.
Adam Curry: By the way. This is
its waters, not Walter's wallet
John C Dvorak: Walker's water US
waters Jessie waters is just
short of holding clutching his
pearls booklet you know the way
you get to the top of your
blouse and you hold it tight
against your neck. Is he says
Adam Curry: he sounds like 99%
of all podcasts and rumble and
YouTube videos. That's yeah,
that's and that's that's what
everybody's does that well, your
algo brought up for you John
Diddy.
John C Dvorak: No. Oh, okay. No,
I was watching Jesse. Will Will
Oscar show rock
Adam Curry: rock Jesse Walker's.
Alright, let's get into it.
Shockwaves
Unknown: reverberating through
the music industry after federal
agents raided the LA and Miami
homes of billionaire Hip Hop
mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Homeland
Security conducted the armed
raid and an alleged sex
trafficking operation TMZ leader
capturing Diddy pacing around a
private Miami airstrip did he
wasn't arrested but his phones
were seized. And there's
speculation tonight that he's
fled the country we can't
confirm it. Just breaking
tonight, though did his
attorneys putting out a
statement saying quote there is
no excuse for the excessive show
of force and hostility exhibited
by authorities. This
unprecedented ambush paired with
advanced coordinated media
presence leads to a premature
rush to judgment of Mr. Combs
and is nothing more than a witch
hunts. The raid was triggered by
a litany of lawsuits including
from his own ex alleging abuse,
rape and sex trafficking did he
settled that one but then, two
months ago, his former producer
Rodney little rod Jones filed an
explosive lawsuit containing
disturbingly graphic and
disgusting details that not only
implicate Diddy, but aim
straight at the heart of the
music industry.
Adam Curry: So in all of this
interesting that Diddy has not
been arrested his kids weird his
kids are living at these houses.
And let me tell you, you want to
see some messed up kids look at
kids of billionaires. And but
he's right. Did he is putting
out a statement. He's right this
is a witch hunt the witches of
the music industry Taylor Swift.
John C Dvorak: Oh, beyond what
he did there.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. These
these are the evil ones. They're
the satanists and Sam Smith.
We'll just call him a woman for
argument's sake. Who? Sam Smith.
Don't you remember he he was on
the Grammys in the devil suit in
the cage brought to you by
Pfizer.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that guy?
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. These it
is a witch hunt. In that regard.
He's correct. It's a witch hunt.
The Witches are out to get them
to cover up their own evil
doings.
John C Dvorak: I like your
thesis
Adam Curry: Thank you clip to
Unknown: an elaborate
racketeering, blackmail and sex
trafficking scheme that is
lawyers compared to Jeffrey
Epstein's. Now, for over a year,
little rod had unfettered access
to Diddy's world, his homes, his
planes and his parties, where he
claims he witnessed mountains of
narcotics, illegal firearms,
police drinks, workers, and
underage boys and girls. The
producer claims he was groped by
Diddy, groomed and forced into
humiliating sexual performances.
Did his chief of staff Christina
quorum is said to have been the
galane Maxwell to Sean Combs Oh,
there it is. Allegedly ordering
her assistants to keep Mr. Combs
high of gummies pills cocaine
and ecstasy and maintaining a
steady stream of sex workers for
her boss. Now some of the women
brought into Diddy's orbit were
under the age of 16. That's
according to the complaint. The
lawsuit claims he required the
sex workers and underage girls
to sign NDAs prior to entering
as parties and prior to being
drugged and sex trafficked at
these parties.
Adam Curry: I don't believe this
first second sign this NDA Oh
sure. Both now. Okay. So so far,
except for the underage part. We
have drugs and hookers hmm
sounds like DC to me. I mean,
okay. This is all just salacious
gossip and and it's so
uninteresting in the world that
we live in. When Taylor Swift is
performing witchcraft onstage in
front of your seven your seven
year old. Oh, Taylor. The kids
are talking in tongues.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah,
that's true. That is a short
clips. Here's the last one
Unknown: that did he call these
his freakout parties and attend
There you go free celebrities,
politicians, athletes,
international dignitaries like
British royalty Prince Harry,
and music label executives.
little rod clubs some of the
biggest names in the recording
industry sponsored these parties
with sex workers, drugs and
underage girls, the CEO of
Universal Music, Lucien Grange
is named as a defendant. So as
the former CEO of Motown Records
Ethiopia, Hubbard Merriam, and
others know rod says hidden
cameras were in every room of
Diddy's homes. Little rod
believes that Mr. Combs
possesses compromising footage
of every person that is attended
his free golf parties, and his
house parties, salacious tapes
of Hollywood's biggest names,
including record CEOs and
politicians doing drugs, and
cavorting with prostitutes and
minors. The complaint argues
that these free golf parties
were a business model, young and
up and coming talent attended
and were promised career
opportunities and access to
music executives. They were then
plied with drugs and alcohol
filmed somewhere blackmailed.
There was a quid pro quo,
according to the complaint. Oh,
Adam Curry: wow. How surprising.
Well, I
John C Dvorak: have a question
for you. Yeah. How does this
sound any different than a Hugh
Hefner, Playboy Mansion party?
Adam Curry: Not none at all. Not
at all. Except that there's a
promise of a career. Well, I
guess you know, you hey, I can
get to Hugh I can get you in
Playboy. Maybe that was the
promise. Yeah, you're completely
right. It's ridiculous. The
whole thing is a big
distraction.
John C Dvorak: A lot of don't
know. Oh, yes, it's
Adam Curry: of course it is.
Have you seen what's going on in
the world? Airplanes are falling
out of the sky
John C Dvorak: by airplane fell
out of the sky. Well,
Adam Curry: the 737 max but that
you know, this piece is falling.
The Boeing is an unreliable
product.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's your story. Yes. How did
that happen? We've talked about
on the show. We know how it
happened. Well, the GE guy in
charge anything that is what
you're gonna get. Hello. And he
quit. He's resigning. Yeah,
yeah. And a year. Well,
Adam Curry: they've got to find
a successor but there's a new
twist a new twist in what's a
new chapter of Alaska flight
12am Sorry, a new chapter, not a
twist a chapter in what's a new
chapter
Unknown: of Alaska flight 1282
where the door plug on a Boeing
plane blew out while in the air.
The FBI Seattle division has
sent those passengers a letter
it says we have identified you
as the possible victim of a
crime isn't unusual for a letter
like this to be sent out.
This is extraordinary for the
DOJ and the FBI to be issuing
this letter
attorney Mark Lindquist said the
27 passengers he represents in a
lawsuit against Boeing and
Alaska Airlines received the
notice
this letter is a result of
cumulative errors by Boeing
cumulative negligence. The DOJ
has just lost their patience it
seems while
the embattled company is not
named in the FBIs letter
linquist
says everyone's drawing the
inference that the target is
Boeing,
Alaska Airlines tells como in an
event like this, it's normal for
the DOJ to be conducting an
investigation. We are fully
cooperating and do not believe
we are a target of the
investigation. Boeing simply
said they weren't commenting
linquist says the DOJ is working
to see if there's grounds for
new criminal charges,
Dora replied blew out 16,000
feet. There were a variety of
injuries had this happened at
cruising altitude, you likely
would have seen people sucked
out of that hole. The pilot may
have gone unconscious due to
hypoxia. The plane may have gone
down and
in this case, the attorney
welcomes a federal
investigation. We
want accountability. We want
answers. And we want safer
planes from Boeing. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I agree with that.
We definitely want safer planes
from Boeing boots on the ground,
of course. Word is spirit
Aerosystems these are the guys
who actually were split off from
Boeing I think will be Boeing
again by June 2025. The
transition will start this June
will take one year to complete
of course very complicated
because after Boeing sold this
Wichita division to what became
spirit almost 20 years ago,
they've taken in work from
Airbus Sikorsky Bell and others
something Boeing will take it
all and spirit will just cease
to exist other think others
think Boeing will buy the
commercial part and the defense
part will remain autonomous. We
should have a better idea in a
few weeks boots on the ground in
the industry close to the fire.
So that looks more and more like
military industrial complex work
is involved here too.
John C Dvorak: Obviously, yeah.
You don't want to change the
direction of the cash cow.
Adam Curry: Well, no, I never
thought that I would that I
would be pro Airbus. Because you
know, they're basically plastic.
I like sheet metal and rivets
but not these These guys are no
good.
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
clips on this but I want to make
some commentary on Bobby The Op
Adam Curry: I have a clip to set
us up.
John C Dvorak: Good. Here we go.
Robert
Unknown: F. Kennedy Jr. has
announced a relatively unknown
political new cover as his
running mate in the race for the
White House. Silicon Valley
lawyer Nicole Shanahan will join
his independent ticket as they
seek to win over voters unhappy
with a Biden Trump rematch
Shanahan is the ex wife of
Google's co founder and says she
shares Kennedy's concerns about
the environment and vaccines.
There is only one candidate I
have met for president who takes
the chronic disease epidemic
seriously. It is Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. and I will be his
ally in making our nation
healthy again.
Shanahan has deep pockets she
donated $4 million to a Super
PAC that bought a Superbowl
commercial.
Adam Curry: I'd have some
thoughts too, but you go ahead.
John C Dvorak: So this woman is
the one behind that Kennedy ad
that ran on the Super Bowl. That
was a top throwback to the 60s.
Of course, she wasn't born until
84 or something like that she
was doesn't even know who
Kennedy was. But okay, so she's
somehow responsible for that ad.
She was brought in when Kennedy
first came in as an independent
and and he looks like he's
polling for about 12% As we
speak, he gets on all the
ballots, which she can assure
because she's got a lot of
money. That's it was the first
sir good clip the
Adam Curry: Sergey Brin, settle
John C Dvorak: he was married to
strike a rent for a little while
she met him at a yoga camp and
got pregnant had a kid here they
got to did you
Adam Curry: hear that?
Supposedly the reason they split
up is that she banged Ilan.
John C Dvorak: It was in the
newsletter. I thought you read
it. I'm just
Adam Curry: not everyone who
listens to the show reads the
newsletter.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, the
newsletter has a very nice clip.
Adam Curry: By the way, no one
saw the newsletter. It went to
junk a lot of it Yeah, no, it
hurt everything hurt donations.
Everything it did
John C Dvorak: it did it where
you got screwed. And it had I
think it had to do with the
title using the word killer.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So
it's on you. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah, totally.
Well, it's not really because
it's stupid.
Adam Curry: Yes, Monty 83.
There's a newsletter. Stupid
trolls.
Unknown: So
Adam Curry: woman is no good.
She's just let me finish I'm
sorry.
John C Dvorak: So she went on
the suppose he had an affair
with the language they both deny
but he got divorced from her.
Anyway, she I think she's kind
of she is beyond the left wing
crackpot type because she just
recently as mentioned again, in
the newsletter, we discussed
that she just recently after
getting divorced, she's had a
druidic ceremony. So she's a
druid. And I should mention that
when I went to InfoWorld back in
the 80s it when it was initially
an intelligent machine journal,
it was run by Druids. Really?
Yeah. And Maggie cannon told me
about it because she says she
goes in there they go into some
Friday night or something. She
goes back into the office for
some reason. There's everyone's
wearing these horns on their
heads and doing some ceremony
Adam Curry: at InfoWorld.
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
Adam Curry: This is some Silicon
Valley lore I have not heard
yet.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And so
there's a lot of druidic
bullcrap in Silicon Valley and
she's a part of it, but
Adam Curry: they didn't they
meet at Burning Man or her
current guy who works here he
John C Dvorak: met at Burning
Man, I want to read a little
clip from Britannic about
druids, the nobody knows
anything about him. So it's all
all supposition and some kind of
just say, I've met a druid. i
Okay, tell us what you know. I
met a druid in
Adam Curry: Amsterdam, because
we got DMT from a druid that he
got it. That was Yeah, I did.
DMT twice in my life is not 20
years ago. By the way. I enjoyed
the experience don't have to do
it again. But I enjoyed the
experience. And a druid comes
over to the house. And it's
because of pure DMT is from tree
bark. It's not synthesized.
John C Dvorak: How do you know
he's a druid? Dude,
Adam Curry: he had the horns on
his head and everything. No,
yes. Yeah, you had the lots of
you know, like, what's your name
from Stevie Nicks type flowing
robes and stuff. It was great.
Hey, man, you got some got some
tree bark for me. So they're,
they're a weird bunch. And when
I saw the picture in the
newsletter of her having her
hand holding ceremony with the
guy who works at lightning labs
of all places, Bitcoin one no.
Well, lightning Labs is very
specific. Lightning labs they
they built the first they built
lightning node which is for the
Lightning Network. And those
guys I think have lost their way
to be quite honest. They're
there. They're a little nuts
about money. Yeah, but she was
wearing like a druidic tree
outfit with leaves and stuff
barefoot.
John C Dvorak: So here's from
Britannica other Roman right.
Nobody knew anything about the
jurists, and so they had to go
with Roman writings from Pliny
the Elder and others. Other
Roman writers also fixated on
druids love of blood and gore.
Pliny the Elder wrote of the
druids appreciation for both
mistletoe and human sacrifice.
To murder a man was to do the
act of highest devoutness he
wrote, and to eat his flesh was
to secure the highest blessings
of health. Tacitus, the great
historian even described a
battle in Wales in which drew is
covered their altars with the
blood of captives and consulted
their deities through human
entrails. So they held up to you
know, somebody's in intestines,
who knows? Yeah. According to
the writers, the pagan
practitioners presented an
existential threat to the
Romans. So my thinking is that
this woman was introduced to the
campaign because Bobby, the OP
came in, and he's polling about
12%. And initially, he was
taking from both Biden and
Trump, but by bringing a drew it
in I pagan woman, who is
obviously a kind of a gold
digger, to say the least, she
comes in adds to the ticket,
she's, you know, charming
enough. And she will kill any
chance that a Trump voter is
going to cross over and vote for
Bobby DAPP. That's the ends that
is just he's only going to suck
away the votes from Biden. And
that's the reason she's there.
That's
Adam Curry: the OP right there.
I completely concur. word around
town. Because I know many people
who are looking at Bobby the
opp, oh, no, oh, no, no way.
Because he or she sent money to
the Soros sisters da A's. She's
a lib tard I'm just repeating
what people around town say is
completely and utterly
destroyed. Any chance of any
wavering Trump voter selecting
Bobby this way? And this? I
mean, first of all, it's just
pathetic. I mean, I understand
that he had to get on the
ballot, and he needs at like 15
or $20 million quick. So that
was that was the choice is like,
Well, look, you got a lot of
money. I'll make you my VP. And
yes, I have to agree. I don't
like calling people. Gold Digger
easily, but she sure seems to
have all the traits of one.
John C Dvorak: So so that was
the idea. And now we've got
Trump as a shoo in. Yeah.
Because they're just gonna
completely bother the app is
just an insurance policy to make
sure that Trump gets in here. So
somebody somewhere some guys
pulling strings are intent on
getting Trump elected. And I'd
say this is the time to do the
betting. If you're I have in
around Vegas.
Adam Curry: Get in now while
stocks last. So I watched the
majority of the fact Dell big
tree was there. Because a lot of
people like and I know even
though Trump is saying, Oh, it's
horrible, you know, you can vote
for him. He's no good, which I
think is part of the op. It's
just it's just materializing. It
still would not surprise me. If
if Kennedy if Trump wins, if
Kennedy is not brought in for
some cabinet post. Yeah, it
could be that would not surprise
me. Because all the people there
who were speaking and speaking
up to the up to Kennedy coming
out and then him announcing
what's her name?
John C Dvorak: What's her name?
Shanahan Shana
Adam Curry: chin. Shan Shan
John C Dvorak: Shan That's your
new
Adam Curry: Nana Chan. That's
her new name. Yeah, so let's
make it a little racist while
we're at it. Shana Chan. Yeah.
We're people who had some very
interesting things to say. And I
pulled one clip, because I was
watching in real time. Cali
means this is the true med guy.
And I just love this. So who can
Cali means is his name Le Cali
le meme means mea NS Cali means
so means okay. Yes. And he runs
through med which is a now
natural path type outfit. The
anti farm by an anti Big Pharma
but he has a history with Big
Pharma and he talked about it
working for the food and pharma
industries early in my career.
My job was to funnel money to
institutions that America
constrast we funneled money to
civil rights groups. In return,
the NAACP said it was imperative
to keep Coca Cola on food
stamps. They actually said it
was racist to take Ultra
processed food and soda off of
food stamps. And today soda is
the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel
money to medical organizations,
the American Diabetes. Oh yeah.
Oh, you've never heard this.
John C Dvorak: No, I never heard
that soda was the number one
thing bought by food stamps. Oh,
yeah,
Adam Curry: of course. Well,
yeah, you can. You can use them
at fast food. Remember, very
important using your snap card
and fast food. They actually
said it was racist, to take
Ultra processed food and soda
off of food stamps. Today, soda
is the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel
money to medical organizations.
The American Diabetes
Association of all groups took
millions of dollars from Coca
Cola, and they said small cans
of the drink was a good choice
for diabetics. The American
Academy of Pediatrics 80% of
their funding comes from the
pharmaceutical industry. We
funneled money to researchers, I
was shocked as a junior employee
to be communicating with top
professors at Harvard and Tufts
nutrition school. I found that
11 times more funding comes from
the food industry for nutrition
research than the NIH. I found
out that more than 50% of the
Harvard Med school budget
touches farm in some way. We
funneled money to the media,
pharma funds over 50% of all TV
news funding and I realized that
wasn't influenced consumers.
That was influenced the the news
itself. And he went on and on
and on and on. And of course he
went into ozempic and have
that's going to bankrupt
Medicare. Even Bernie Sanders is
now coming out saying, Oh, we've
got to get cheaper. ozempic
Okay, thanks, Bernie. Yeah,
that'll do it cheaper ozempic
Don't don't mind you know, the
fact that you're going to put
people on medication kids on
medication for the rest of their
life. But let's get back to the
to the food stamps or the snap
cards. Because you can use them
at fast food and they have a new
addition which is just it's more
input for the ozempic to
Unknown: breakfast powerhouses
are teaming up three types of
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts are
reportedly go on sale at
McDonald's later this year. The
donuts will be available across
the country and McDonald's by
the end of 2026. After a phased
rollout the partnership could
increase the scope of Krispy
Kreme and today Krispy Kreme is
giving away a free doughnut
between five and 9pm. To
celebrate less,
they're putting that conveyor
belt inside of the McDonald's
rolling them off the hot
Adam Curry: hey, go media loves
it. But wait, there's more. We
need more sugary stuff, whether
it's high fructose corn syrup,
or sugar, aspartame or whatever
you want it to be. Yes.
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
what McDonald's thinks it's
doing. First Kosmos thing which
is the sugary drink operation
and it was all about and we've
played many a clip Yes. From
people going, Oh, it's so great.
And now Krispy Kreme a Donuts,
donuts, Chai at McDonald's or
not? McDonough. If
Adam Curry: you had if you had a
nation that has money from the
government in their hand and
their crack addicts, I'm pretty
sure if you were enterprising,
it'd be like Hey, Adam, I got an
idea. Let's stop this
podcasting. Nonsense. Let's
start a crack stand. So that's
all that sugar is, is crack it
may we have a nation addicted to
it. Boy oh boy. Oh no, but don't
worry, because you got the
ozempic now, and hey, hey, kids,
here's a good one for you. Let's
double down
Unknown: Dunkin ready to give
you a little buzz spiked to iced
coffees and teas are officially
available now in Chicago. The
coffee comes in four flavors
original caramel, mocha and
vanilla. And while the teas have
some unexpected flavors, they
include a strawberry dragon
fruit and a mango pineapple.
Drinks are not available in
Dunkin shops. Instead, they will
be at local grocery stores, of
course, Jenner and
the liquor store.
Why not?
Adam Curry: Why not? Do you
think there's gonna be any
raspberry in there, no
John C Dvorak: sugar. backup
your piece about just buying
everything left and right. I'm
not going to play any of the 20
Minute promotion that they did.
But I want to play the intro to
it because this adds right into
it. This is the UBI presentation
on NPR work
Unknown: on fighting poverty in
the USA pandemic government aid
made it clear that getting
people in need a little extra
money could help them in huge
ways.
And they spend the money in ways
that everyone does right on
those basics, going to the
grocery store, making sure the
rent is paid, paying the car
note those sorts of things.
Consider this universal basic
income one seemed like a radical
idea in the US before the
pandemic. But now many places in
the country are pushing to make
it a permanent part of the
social safety net.
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh, there was
a whole I missed that a whole
special on NPR about UBI. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: went on and on
with people talking about
literally just throwing the
money away. And that's okay.
Because that's, you know, that's
what people want to do. And they
got the money to do whatever
they want with it. And it's just
the damnedest thing ever heard.
Now,
Adam Curry: this is remember,
my, my, my take on the COVID
situation has always been
financial. It's always been
financial. And now we have it.
This is perfect. We've got
inflation, oh, I'm sorry. It's
transitory. We've got inflation
that is transitory. In fact,
let's talk about that for a
second
Unknown: this morning. $1 won't
go quite as far at Dollar Tree
these days. The company now says
it will increase its maximum
prices stores to $7. This year,
a $5. Cap was put in place last
summer. Family Dollar recently
announced it will close to 1000
stores 30 of which are Dollar
Tree stores. So
Adam Curry: they had a cap last
summer of $5. Now it's seven.
That's I
John C Dvorak: was a kid $1 Was
there used to be something
called the five and dime store.
Adam Curry: Yes, we had one
close just just last year here
in Fredericksburg. We had a five
and dime on Main Street and it
closed. But just think about it.
They had a cap of $5 at the
dollar store a year ago. Now
it's $7. Is that not somewhere
like a 30%? Increase? That's a
big big jump. Yes. That's your
inflation. Look at it. Look at
Tiktok all the kids are crying.
They can't afford rent. They
can't afford anything. I mean,
in addition to their iPhone, of
course and their fancy
John C Dvorak: car, they go
yeah, they can spend two grand
on an iPhone, that's fine.
Adam Curry: Well, that's on the
payment plan. You know, the it's
all finance. It's all finance
quote unquote. It's free. Yes.
All financed through AT and T T
Mobile Verizon. But if you
really look at the $7 trillion
that we created, 7 trillion was
created by the banking system.
This came up on a very brief
segment with Muhammad Al Iran
Aireon. He's an economist. He's
often on CNBC, and they talked
about the $7 trillion that we
printed, and what are we going
to do about it? Are we going to
catch up? Are we going to feed
or begin to, you know, we're
going to pay that off? Because
it's you know, it's debt when
China bought that a lot of
Chinese purchasing of our debt.
And here,
John C Dvorak: first of all, by
the way, I just want to make it
clear that the United States
Americans by our own, we are
stuck with the debt personally
stuck with the debt.
Adam Curry: Yes, our own
Treasury buy. We buy our own
debts called monetizing your
debt. We buy it ourselves
correct. And but what are we
going to do about it? Are we
going to pay it off? We're going
to fix it, we're going to figure
it out. No. But why
John C Dvorak: are we at 7
trillion? Why 7 trillion next
year?
Unknown: Why go to whether it's
to US or elsewhere? We watch it,
we you
never go back from
the crisis. We don't that's
the Fed's balance sheet is the
same thing. It is sad. And at
some point, we're going to pay
for this, we will pay for this.
We have
been saying this for so long,
that we're going to pay for it.
We're going to be talking to
Maya McGinnis a little later
about some of the issues
surrounding this, too. We've
been saying this for so long,
decades and decades. When does
it actually
so remember the old PIMCO
concept of the cleanest dirty
shirt? Okay, we live in a
relative world. So if we
misbehave and others misbehave
more, we don't get punished
because we've got the reserve
currency, and we are the place
where people outsource savings
to so as long as we remain the
cleanest dirty shirt, then we're
not going to be punished. If
others start being cleaner than
us, then then this will change.
Adam Curry: We have the cleanest
dirty shirts. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: That's a great
analogy. It's perfect.
Adam Curry: And this is why they
have to they must create a
central digital bank, current
central bank digital currency
they have to for all the UBI for
all of the newcomers who are
welcoming in who if we're
getting your work permit, don't
worry. Here's your card. Here's
your ID. Here's your UBI this
it's a foregone conclusion. And
just to add to that, the me see
where do I have it here? The UBI
part or the digital ID part is
really approaching very rapidly
and we're going to usher that in
for social media. I know you
don't agree with it and you say
it's crazy and yes, you'll be
able to get around it, but can
California already has SB 1228
large online platforms user
identity authentication, this
bill would require a large
online platform as defined to
seek to verify the name,
telephone number and email
address of an influential user
as defined by means chosen by
the large online platform, and
would require the platform to
seek to verify the identity of
highly influential users as
defined by asking to review the
highly influential users
government issued
identification. And this is
happening everywhere, including
Florida childhood
Unknown: has completely changed.
And the reason has changed, of
course is because of the
smartphone kids today, teenagers
today. According to the
research, they are more
sedentary, more solitary, more
anxious, more depressed, more
risk averse. Something has
changed, and it seems to be the
access to the phone. So now here
comes the state of Florida.
Yesterday, Ron DeSantis, has
signed the most restrictive
social media ban for teenagers
anywhere in the country, people
14 And under banned from social
media in the state of Florida
for 15 and 16 year olds will
need a parental consent.
DeSantis says this satisfied me
the way the bill was written. I
think it's a fair application of
the law and the Constitution.
There, of course, will be
lawsuits as there have been in
other states, the Republican
Speaker of the House there in
the state of Florida says we're
going to beat those lawsuits,
we're going to beat them and we
are never going to stop this is
a major major deal. But how do
you police this? Exactly?
Because my 10 year old will
register on Instagram or Tiktok
as though she's of a certain
age, and it's about I have to
take the phone away? Well,
it becomes a legal liability for
the companies. I mean, the you
know, Instagram knows me well
enough to know that I spend a
lot of things in my pants and I
get nothing but ads for spilled
things on pants, right that they
know their customer they know
when it's a 10 year old versus a
28 year old. But the point is,
past bands have struggled on
free speech grounds, right,
there's an access to information
that should be available even to
young people. What's unique
about the Florida law and the
way it's written, which will be
a legal test that we're going to
be talking about is it's not
about the information. It's
about the qualities of the app.
So the infinite scroll, the
addictive algorithm, the
information you can access on a
WW dot straight up computer.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: and it goes on and
on and on. Okay, I want to go
down this rabbit hole for a few
minutes. Because there's a lot
of people out there talking
about the about the apps being
and social media being very bad
for children. Here's the ABC
Good Morning America. Let me see
is this sits Yes, this is I
think they bring in Jonathan
Haidt here who just wrote a book
about this. This is a Good
Morning America about the
Florida social media ban. We
Unknown: turn now to a social
media show down in Florida Shona
Rhonda Santa signing a bill
banning children under 14 from
having their own social media
accounts. But it's expected to
face a number of legal
challenges and Ariel Russia
joins us now with more can
imagine a bumpy road ahead.
bumpy
road ahead. A lot of very strong
opinions on this one. If this
law holds Florida will have one
of the most restrictive social
media bans in the country. The
bill signed by Governor Ron
DeSantis won't take effect until
January 1, and is likely to face
major legal challenges. The new
measure bars social media
accounts for children under the
age of 14 and requires parental
consent for 15 and 16 year olds.
It also mandates that social
media platforms search for and
remove the profiles of kids who
don't meet the age requirement.
proponents have argued that
access to social media is
harmful to children's mental
health. It's not yet clear which
social media companies would be
impacted. But the trade group
net choice which represents
several major social media
giants slammed the move is
unconstitutional saying it
violates the First Amendment,
the equal protection clause of
the 14th amendment and federal
law Florida. It's not the first
state to enact this type of ban
Arkansas and Ohio have also
passed similar legislation,
Lindsey but both are tied up in
court since
Adam Curry: the phrase was used
by requests. Yeah, we got to
bring that back. You got
slammed, they slammed the
slammed him for this. So then
they bring on Jonathan Haidt, H
AI d t, he wrote the coddling of
the American mind, great book.
And now he's gone off the rails
as far as I'm concerned. He's
now he is now advocating for the
only way we can do this as
government ID the only way which
of course, is not the solution,
but it is what I predicted
Unknown: and a new book is
addressing this issue. It's
called the anxious anxious
generation, how the great
rewiring of childhood is causing
an epidemic of mental illness.
And author and social
psychologist Jonathan Haidt is
joining us now to talk about
Adam Curry: it. This is gonna be
interesting because all the
research that we even Zuckerberg
said it in the most recent I'm
hearing Oh, there's there's
absolutely no proof. There's no
proof that social media messes
your mental with your mental
health. There's no proof at all.
Why
Unknown: this book? Why now?
Because I'm a social
psychologist. And as I've been
digging into what's happening in
the social lives of kids, I've
graphed out all the data from
all these studies. And what we
see over and over again, is that
levels of mental illness,
they're sort of stable in the
tooth out early 2000s. And then
right around 2012 13, they all
go shooting up, we're talking
about depression, anxiety, self
harm, suicide is up by more than
50% among American teens. And
it's not just us, it's actually
happening in many other
countries. So we need to
understand why and that's what
the book is about. So
Adam Curry: notice, he says,
2013, that is not that's when
the social media networks really
starts at will they had momentum
at that point, not the
introduction of the smartphone,
Unknown: can you really peg this
to smartphone use the age of the
smartphone and seeing the
prevalence of it and this
generation Gen Z is really an
experiment in what happens when
you put a smartphone in
everyone's hand. Well, that's
right, because the millennials
went through puberty with flip
phones and flip phones aren't
particularly bad you use
interest to communicate. It was
when we gave kids smartphones
and then right around that time,
they also got Instagram and
other social media accounts.
When kids move their socialist
onto social media like that.
It's not human, it doesn't help
them develop. And right away
mental health collapses.
Adam Curry: Okay, so this, this
is bullcrap. Because Because
Facebook didn't even have an app
for the longest time if you
recall, even Wall Street was
like Facebook man, they're not
going to make it because they
don't have an app. Remember
that? No, yeah. So it wasn't the
smartphone. I'm not saying the
smartphone is great. But it
wasn't the phone and I have a
sneaky suspicion that this
lawsuit against Apple is is more
about taking away or distracting
from this social media companies
and the apps that run on the
smartphone focusing on on bad
apple all your bad. I think
we'll send a clip about that.
Let's let's bring it in. And
before I continue,
John C Dvorak: this is the we
didn't do the mash up of the
apple or I'm sorry, the three by
three but this is the mash up of
the three by three that brings
every network into the picture
and their commentary about Apple
Unknown: today the US Justice
Department is looking to take a
bite out of Apple the Department
of
Justice filing a landmark
lawsuit today against Apple. The
DOJ in 16 states accusing Apple
of monopolizing the smartphone
market antitrust
lawsuit against Apple, the
second largest company in the US
and the world, its stock fell
4%. Today consumers
should not have to pay higher
prices. Because companies break
the law.
Attorney General Merrick Garland
claiming apple 70% domination
over the US smartphone market as
a result of illegal behavior.
The DOJ alleges Apple worth $2.7
trillion unfairly tries to keep
users hooked on iPhones and
charges high fees from app
developers. Apple
has consolidated its monopoly
power, not by making its own
products better. By making other
products worse,
the Justice Department joining
more than a dozen states in
nearly a 90 page complaint,
accusing the company of
violating antitrust laws through
the iPhone, Apple Watch and
Apple Pay
and DOJ alleges the tech giant
blocks third party apps and
other services from competing
with Apple products like denying
iPhone users access to any other
digital wallet tap to pay
service. Other than Apple Pay.
The DOJ specifically calls out
Apple for allegedly boxing out
other companies devices to help
keep track of items like keys to
give an edge to its own air tag
and for allowing lower quality
text messages between iPhone and
Android users Apple
pushing back saying in part,
this lawsuit threatens who we
are the principles that sell
products. We are if successful,
it would hinder our ability to
create the kind of technology
people expect from Apple.
Apple denies the allegations and
says a victory for the
government would also set a
dangerous precedent, empowering
government to take a heavy hand
in designing people's
technology. Apple
basically telling DOJ See you in
court. The company is expected
to follow legal response soon.
Apple official said in their
statement tonight DOJ is lawsuit
is wrong on the facts and the
law.
The feeling inside Apple's
Cupertino headquarters is to
fight back hard against what
they are calling a misguided
assault. And the Justice
Department says if left
unchallenged Apple will continue
to strengthen its monopoly but
the department hasn't ruled out
even breaking up Apple if
necessary addressed except that
hasn't happened since Bell
systems back in 1982. Let's make
it personal but I can't see my
mom certain videos or she can't
see me certain videos and so we
find
your mom iPhone.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know they're
attacking the the most
successful device manufacturer.
They really are. Meanwhile, I
mean, this kind of just came
out. But this happened between
20 2016 and 2019. Facebook was,
was making a lot of their users
try out their VPN. Did you catch
John C Dvorak: this story? No, I
did not catch this story. Yes.
Adam Curry: So they had a VPN
product. And so they, you know,
they offered, they have their
root certificate. And they were
and that this is this is all
emails that are published now.
And this is only just now coming
to light. Zuckerberg every it
was called Ghostbusters, this
project internally because they
had the they had the root cert.
They were conducting a man in
the middle attack to intercept
and decrypt what their users
were looking at on Snapchat,
YouTube and Amazon. I mean, that
is possibly the worst thing you
could do. And of course, it
makes you think about the VPN
provider using and they had kits
root kits for and or the kids
for Android and iOS, that
impersonated official servers
and decrypted traffic Facebook
wasn't authorized access? Of
course not. So they could plan
competitive moves against
Snapchat and other companies.
Nice. So wow, that's not a
that's not a big story at all.
No,
John C Dvorak: I like you said,
like I said, I haven't heard
this story. And it's a killer.
And
Adam Curry: on top of that, the
it's now coming out that the
Department of Justice demanded
from Google comm all information
about certain accounts, users
who accessed certain YouTube
videos arrived around January 6.
Yeah, it is a good one. So if
you so you know, there you go.
You're you're watching the
video, you know, it gets heated
up. So it shows up your
recommendation, you click on it,
boom, you're on a list. Yep,
you're on a list this this is
it's all it's the season of
reveal was upon us. But we still
have to deal with the social
media companies. World Health
Organization getting in on the
on the gambit,
Unknown: the schoolyard bully is
increasingly becoming a cyber
bully. A new study from the
World Health Organization finds
online harassment among
adolescents is on the rise
magnified by the increase in
their digital interactions.
About one in six adolescents say
that they have been cyber
bullied once or twice in the
last couple of months. And here
we can see that there's, there's
not much of a gender difference.
The
study use data from 44 countries
and regions across Europe,
Central Asia and Canada.
Researchers surveyed more than a
quarter million kids aged 11 to
15 years old. For boys cyber
bullying peaked at age 11. For
girls, aged 13. And these kids
now spend up to six hours a day
online bullying inside schools
has declined over the past
decade as cyber bullying surge.
Social media companies, such as
metta have beefed up child
safety features recently, in an
effort to limit harassment and
exposure to harmful content. But
the WHO says there needs to be
more education around the
dangers of cyber bullying, as
well as an increased investment
in peer violence monitoring. All
Adam Curry: right, so lots of
monitoring going up. But I'm
just thinking about, you know,
it was Google who pushed so
hard, Let's Encrypt push so hard
that every website has to be SSL
encrypted. Yeah. Which I refuse
on webpages that I host that are
just pages of like a show notes.
No, yeah, who cares? Well, they
also control the browser that
then shows a little thief with a
with a mask like trying to get
your data is reaching through
your browser. Oh, dangerous. Oh,
except the risks move on. What
who controls those certificates?
Who controls the root
certificate of all this stuff?
Is it really to be trusted? I
doubt that. I
John C Dvorak: doubt it too.
Adam Curry: So now we bring on
guys are all scammers at heart.
Now we bring on our Surgeon
General Vivek Murthy. And this
is on CNN with the on the
Amanpour show. And well, it's
everything just bad.
Unknown: Are you surprised that
this country I mean, you know,
pretty close to top of the
tables in the OECD nations is
the second most unhappy,
depressed country in the world.
Only Uzbekistan has it worse.
Oh, we're
Adam Curry: better than it was
Becca Stein, you might as well
just call us phone number wise.
Unknown: Well, I'm deeply
concerned. But I think one of
the key lessons from this is
that economic prosperity alone
is not the key to happiness. And
in fact, what we are seeing is
that in many, many cases
entries, which are increasingly
modernizing in terms of their
economy, their culture, etc.
We're actually seeing that
unhappiness is growing. And I
think that's coming for a few
different reasons. One of them
is because we are actually
pulling further and further
apart from one another. With the
benefits and efficiencies of
modern technology and ways of
life, we actually have fewer
friends that we trust with your
relationships we can rely on.
And that is a direct impact on
our happiness and well being.
The other challenge, though, is
I think technology has been a
mixed blessing for us. And I
think particularly when it comes
to young people, the impact of
social media on their mental
health has often been quite
negative, which is why last
year, I issued a surgeon
general's advisory on social
media and youth mental health to
point out the fact that when
young people are using social
media, as they often are for
more than three hours a day,
they double their risk of
anxiety and depression symptoms,
Adam Curry: which is great. We
can we can get more anti
depression drugs. Don't You're
not fooling me, Vivek. So let's
continue on. By the way, three
hours a day, try six, you have
Unknown: in fact gone even
further comparing social media
and the tech companies to 20th
century car giants, which have
produced vehicles without
seatbelts and airbags until
legislation mandated it.
Adam Curry: What a horrible,
horrible analogy. How about just
drugs?
Unknown: What's happening in
social media is the equivalent
of having children in cars that
have no safety features and
driving on roads, with no speed
limits, no traffic lights, no
rules whatsoever. And we're
telling you, you know, what, do
your best figure it out? It's
insane.
Yeah, that is what we've done to
our children. It's we've put
them in unsafe, untenable
environments, and we're hoping
for the best and you know who
else we've placed a burden on
our parents, parents all across
the world are trying to figure
out how to manage social media
for their kids, these platforms
are rapidly evolving. Many
parents never grew up with them.
And what they are finding is
that their kids are often
exposed to extraordinary harms,
whether that's violence and
sexual content, whether it's
content generated by the
algorithm that in some cases
tells them to harm themselves.
And the experience itself, many
young people tell me has led
them to often feel worse about
themselves and about their
friendships, yet, they feel they
can get off of it. Because the
features that are built in are
meant to maximize how much time
we all spend on them. And that
is a profound source of concern
for me as a doctor, as I watched
the profound the profound and
disturbing health effects on our
kid. Hey,
Adam Curry: Silicon Valley that
coming for you very
John C Dvorak: little side bit
in here, which is, this was the
same kind of complaint that we
heard in the 80s. about video
games, yeah, oh, these video
games are gonna ruin the
children. And then, in the end
that evolved over time and to
you know, simulations have good
and bad benefits. But then we
have these clips, listen to this
flow state of mind.
Unknown: There's a state of mind
called flow. When you're
completely absorbed in an
activity that's challenging, but
not too hard. artists
feel it when they paint or draw.
Musicians feel it when they play
an instrument. It's a sense of
deep engagement with an activity
where you might look up and
suddenly notice a lot of time
has passed
and flow can help you feel less
stressed, says Kate Sweeney, a
psychology professor at the
University of California,
Riverside flow is
really good for us. It gives us
a lot of positive emotions. But
it's also especially well suited
to times when we're really in
our heads when we're worried
about the future when we're
ruminating about something and
we just can't turn it off. Flow
is a pretty good off switch for
that kind of thinking. So he
says an easy way to achieve flow
is by playing video games.
Adam Curry: Before you know it,
you're in a movie produced by
Dana Brunetti.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's that but there's a part
two to this, but that it's like
wait a minute, everything that
we're all the information that
they throw at us is all bogus.
Can I just say tell us one thing
one minute and they tell us
something else? The next is flow
thing I never heard and I would
say
Adam Curry: that if you if we on
this podcast right now say video
games are bad. There's proof
then you will get a million
emails, new evidence video games
great me by the way. I think
that's how a lot of dudes become
trans. But the video game
industry is huge. They have a
lot of money. They got a lot
biggest bigger than Hollywood.
They have a lot of money and
there's a lot of lobbying and a
lot of that has military
industrial complex who love the
simulation. If you can become a
third place at Lemond as a sim
driver, I'm pretty sure you can
be good on the battlefield if
you've played war Warcraft or
whatever it's called.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sports
ball. Yes, sports
Adam Curry: ball and the other
one the Yeah, what's what's the
other one call of duty? A bet
you, you bet you're a decent
warrior a bit, you're good
solid.
John C Dvorak: That was the
thesis of a movie that's never
been produced again. It was
produced once in the 70s, called
the last star fighter and
everyone that listen to this
show probably seen the movie.
And it was based on the premise
that they could put a video game
out into public domain. And then
the kid who could beat the whole
game and be the best in the
country, could be solicited for
an intergalactic battle of some
bad dudes in outer space. I
totally one of the really great
movies, and it's never been
done. Again, it's never been
fully explained why they can't
produce this movie, again, as I
think is because this is in play
as we speak. But you can claim
the second part of the flow one
Unknown: of the good ones,
there's really two groups of
people who know a lot about
flow. That's psychologists and
video game signers. And video
games are really kind of as a
whole built for exactly this
purpose. They're getting harder
as you get better. They're
showing you and you're making
progress. Sweeney
studied how video games help
people worry less. She recruited
300 college students and put
them in a slightly stressful
situation,
they were unexpectedly
photographed and made to believe
that their peers would be rating
their picture. While
the students waited they played
a game that was similar to
Tetris.
There were three versions of the
classic game where players have
to stack up falling blocks,
there was a hard one where the
blocks move too quickly and
frustrated the players as
slow one that was too boring,
and a
third version that was just
right, and allow players to
achieve flow.
And the folks who were in that
state, that flow state that we
created with the game, they had
an easier time waiting for that
news about their attractiveness
than those who were in the other
conditions.
Sweeney says flow can be a bit
of a gateway to addiction. But
anything can be addictive. If
you do it too much. It's
a great tool for flow. As long
as you're not sort of overdoing
it and checking out too much
from your life.
I need flow. I'm gonna download
that just write Tetris game.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm telling
you, you get into a state of
flow. You're primed to become
trans I'm telling you right now,
but you can do you can email me
John C Dvorak: call is called
flow because as soon as you're
gonna call yourself and flow, my
name is flow.
Adam Curry: Yes, they put you in
a state of trance. Yeah, but
simulation, it is a simulator.
And you'll you'll see. And I
know people who are too boomers
talking about video games. Hey,
we bet we've been around video
games longer than you've been on
the planet. Okay. I was addicted
to asteroids for
John C Dvorak: quite a while.
Asteroids. Original that was oh,
gee, Pinball. Oh, gee, that's an
OG. Yes. Great. That was a great
game when it came out.
Adam Curry: Asteroids was
phenomenal. Especially the
arcade version. Anyway, well,
that's
John C Dvorak: the one that
yeah, that was the one. Let's
get
Adam Curry: back to how we're
going to kill our kids. And now
with AI, by the way, for you,
dude, video gamers, this is for
you. So of
Unknown: course not everybody
thinks AI is going to be the
replacement, you know, for
romance, not just dating apps,
but actual robots and things.
Whereby on. So
I think it can be tempting and
easy to look at AI as a panacea
for all ills, and it might be
easier and more convenient to
turn to a chatbot tend to go out
and build a relationship. But
these are fundamentally
different. There is no
replacement for in person human
connection. It's how we were
evolved over 1000s of years we
were wired hardwired to connect
with one another. And we've got
to intentionally build that back
into our life now because it is
slipping away.
Adam Curry: I think we this is
where we bring in the in sells
Unknown: to bring this back in a
way to social media that you are
very concerned about social
media algorithms amplify
misogynistic content,
Adam Curry: again, they amplify
influencers telling you to get
on antidepressants because hot
girls take Lexapro What
Unknown: about women podcaster
and business professor at NYU
Scott Galloway has said you
know,
Adam Curry: business professor
isn't the professor of marketing
business but hold on stop it's
your it's your beat Scott
Galloway that you can't tell me
as a business professor who may
see this may see what is he
began be a clinical perfectly
Clinical Professor of Marketing.
What is that?
John C Dvorak: A click no idea
what that is. Sounds
Adam Curry: like something you
can get off of a podcast
John C Dvorak: like a clinical
professor, clinic
Adam Curry: Clinical Professor
of Marketing, at what school and
why you
John C Dvorak: my NYU screwed
up.
Adam Curry: I mean, we could
give out clinical,
John C Dvorak: clinical,
clinical clinical podcasts.
That's our next PhD
Unknown: I misogynistic content.
Again, all about women.
podcaster and business professor
at NYU Scott Galloway has said
you know because there is a
really dangerous phenomenon we
do not want young, lonely,
depressed males, you know, you
know in society, which is what
social media is also enhancing
plus all those in sales, you
know women hating in sales, all
of this also is on social media
or when it
comes to the algorithms. I do
think that they are highly
problematic. I think they they
tend to amplify content that
has, as I think of it a high
emotional valence. That means
that content that's going to
stoke our emotions, if you want
to draw people's attention in
psychology will tell you that
the best way to do that is just
stoke anxiety, fear and anger.
There's so many parents that I
have met all across the United
States who have told me that
when their child was in a moment
of emotional distress, they
broke up with a girlfriend or a
boyfriend or they had a major
disappointment in life, that At
those times, they have sometimes
turned to social media for help
somebody the algorithm has often
served up content that in fact
amplifies their sadness. In too
many cases, parents have told me
that in those settings, the
algorithm brought content to
their child that not only
suggested that they take their
own life, but actually walk them
through how to do that. And in
many cases, their child did end
up losing their life. These are
unconscionable circumstances and
situations that should not be
allowed.
Adam Curry: Ah, here's Adams
advice, stop scrolling, start
seeking. Get off of this stuff.
Parents, if you're going to be
held responsible. We already are
putting parents in jail because
their kid got a gun and shot up
the school. You'll be
responsible for everything your
child does. If you don't get
them off social media. Get them
on the basketball court. Get
them on the fence, get him on
the fencing boards, anything,
anything but this
John C Dvorak: let me cake the
fencing court how many schools
have that that's how
Adam Curry: I got into fencing.
I was quite good at fencing. You
know that, don't you? I would
say you bring it up every every
couple of years you bring in I
was third in the nation. He was
actually pretty good Dutch
nationals. I never got beyond
foil I was wanting to say but I
got stuck at foil. But if
fencing is it's pretty cool. And
they remember they came to the
school, they did a
demonstration. And they choose
two kids and then you're sitting
there like oh man, I wish they
would have chosen me and said
Hey, you can come by the studio.
It's actually a fencing studio.
Come by the studio. The master
will will give you a free
lesson. I was hooked. I loved
it. It was perfect for soy boys
is great. You don't need to be
that athletic to win at fencing
anything but this anything. It
John C Dvorak: won't even let
you do dodgeball anymore. Those
things too dangerous.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had I had
quite the reach actually, as a
kid. All right. We can now move
to the latest in I think
replacement migration. Actually,
there's a there's a guy I think
he's on. I know he's on telegram
but he's also on Mon x bar RGV
truth RGV truth. And he has been
he is down by the border on the
other side. And he is sending me
pictures. It's all United
Nations International Office of
migration. They got signs they
got instructions. They you know
they give you your bag, your hat
your card. It's all a setup this
all to move people into our
country because they don't want
to have wages rise. In fact, we
need to suppress them with cheap
labor. The minute they get here,
the system gets overloaded see
Chicago then we need work
permits right away. Thank you
unions. And well what about the
people who were flying in? How
about those Senate
Unknown: amendment that 1000?
Yeah, here we go. Senate
amendment that would ban the use
of taxpayer money to fly
migrants into the US goes down
and a whopping defeat. It was
5147. Every Republican voted for
it. Every Democrat voted against
it. Republican Senator Bill
Haggerty out of Tennessee
proposed the amendment. He joins
us in studio and hello to you
was the writing on the wall
before this thing even hit the
floor.
You know it was amazing. Chuck
Schumer tried everything he
could to block this until the
very dead of night. We ran right
up to basically a government
shutdown before he finally
capitulated and said okay, we'll
put it on the floor but I didn't
get it onto the floor till the
middle of the night, perhaps.
One 30 In the morning, when the
vote went down. I think they
thought no one would see it. No
one would see that every
Democrat voted to fly. illegal
migrants in here from countries
like Haiti Cuba, Nicaragua,
Colombia. on taxpayer funds
using charter flights, flying
them over our border and putting
them into the interior of
America, how many were talking
about Senator 320,000 last year?
Adam Curry: Now, on the other
hand, if we don't do this, and
this is an interesting way, also
a little bit about birth
control, and Planned Parenthood
and abortion rights, but look at
what's happening in Japan.
Immigration, not encouraged
immigration. I don't think it's
easy to go and live in Japan.
I'm not sure how hard it is very
hard. It makes sense. Yeah, it
makes sense because their birth
rate has plummeted. It's been
down for decades. And now this
is the result with birth rates
dropping
Unknown: dramatically. In Japan,
a company there has announced
that it is stopping production
of diapers for babies, it says
demand is simply not there.
Instead, it's refocusing on the
growing market diapers for
adults, in fact, firstly, your
parents have outsold diapers for
your newborn now for about a
decade. It's a surprising piece
of data that shines a light on a
serious problem. The number of
births in Japan dropped to a new
low last year with more than
twice as many deaths as new
babies born. If things continue
that way, Japan's population
could shrink by 30% over the
next 45 years. I'm pleased to
welcome to the day Jennifer
Robertson she's a Professor of
Anthropology and History of Art
at the University of Michigan's
basically the demographic, the
chart has flipped flopped in the
past century and six successive
Japanese governments have they
tried and been unable to
encourage you know, the people
to get married and have more
babies.
Adam Curry: Now listen to this.
Very
Unknown: good question. Well,
during the height of the Pacific
War, roughly 1932 to 1945. In
Japan, the government withheld
birth control, and also allowed
soldiers to take two week
furlough so they could
impregnate their wives to put it
directly. Today in democratic
Japan, they can't do that. And
so they are trying all sorts of
options, giving more money to
families to have children. The
idea was floated back during the
administration of the late
former Prime Minister Ave, in
2006. Seven to introduce robots
to the home. But that hasn't
proved feasible at all.
Adam Curry: Robots Robo sapiens.
That's that's the answer.
John C Dvorak: So the real
answer, which was a subtext in
what she had to say, is,
financial incentives would make
a huge difference. If it was a
real incentive as opposed to no
incentive or oh, here's a tax
credit. Exactly. You start
giving people the kind of money
they're just rolling away on the
immigrants. You kick you get
some babies out of it. Yes. And
no, they don't even think about
that. Because they don't want
you.
Adam Curry: That's right. That's
right. Well, that's our that's
our choice here in America. make
babies. That's my that's my
advice. Okay.
John C Dvorak: So I want to get
onto Mars. Something a little
different. Yeah, please, because
it's kind of an ask Adam.
Adam Curry: I'm kind of
depressed now. I mean, we've got
we got Japanese diapers for
adults. I mean, what are we
going to do? robots? Robots.
John C Dvorak: How about this?
This is an I consider this
Adam Curry: a do I need to get
the jingle? No,
John C Dvorak: I consider this a
native ad. This is NPR ad for
WTF meals. This is not the
bonus, which I don't really,
really want to play. But I want
you to play this home
Unknown: chef delivers home
cooked meals to your dinnertime
routine. Each weekly menu
rotates 15 oven ready and fast
and fresh meals that cook in the
oven or microwave for a fresh
flavorful meal with minimal
steps. After you're done. Toss
the TIN for easy cleanup. Wow.
Adam Curry: You're telling me
that wasn't an ad that is that
really? No.
John C Dvorak: That was an ad.
It was actually an ad ad copy.
Yeah. So how does it question to
you is how does this differ from
the 1970s? And, and something
called the Swanson TV dinner?
Dinner? Sure, with the 10 that
you toss into the bin? Yes, this
exactly the same. They re
introduced the Swanson TV
dinner, to the American public
making some sort of a high tech
bull crap, kind of like we're,
you know, apron and all these
other operations kind of failed.
Here, we're gonna send you a
whole box of these things. Cook
and put them in the oven. The
microwave although it's putting
tinted stuff that you know metal
in the microwave is not
necessarily productive.
Adam Curry: But well hold on a
second. Let's let's let's see if
we can find a Swanson TV dinner
commercial. 1955. Here we go.
Unknown: You guys think you're
lucky you can get Swanson TV
turkey dinners, but I say
Swanson TV turkey dinners are a
bigger break for husbands. You
take me, I can be early. I can
be late. I can bring pals to
dinner anytime I please and get
this. My wife never panics.
Never pan Streisand TV turkey
dinners from my fishing
compartment of our refrigerator
when I'm a little off schedule.
And right You are Jack. And that
is because Mary Lou knows that
she can have a swell dinner
ready and just
Adam Curry: Hey, honey, can you
make a swell dinner for me
tonight? Honey,
Unknown: right talk about easy.
Well, she just popped Swanson TV
turkey dinners in a hot oven.
Their you know their oven ready
and individual. He didn't serve
trays. Yes. What's the Swanson
TV turkey dinners. You just heat
and serve and you serve big and
hearty slices of moist tender
Swanson turkey with grand giblet
gravy show cornbread dressing
and fluffy whipped sweet potato
get to the 10 year old and
Swanson butter and garden
frisbees with more butter.
Butter luckyme My wife uses
Swanson TV turkey dinners. Make
your husband lucky to watch TV
turkey dinner husband lucky
Swanson TV fried chicken
dinners. Swanson TV beat dinners
from your groceries big freezer.
They
Adam Curry: didn't they didn't
have the payoff of toss the tin
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well
everyone expected the toss to 10
I guess they knew enough to do
that anyway.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well here
Yeah, I was a kid. Here's a 32nd
from the 70s this is better
maybe? Let's see.
Unknown: Swanson puts dinner
together the way you like it.
Crispy, juicy chicken with all
the fixings. When Swanson a you
choose dark meat or lightweight
dinners you get just what you
want. From today's Swanson, your
choice of chicken dinners.
Adam Curry: No toss of the tin.
John C Dvorak: I says a little
as an aside this the family
ended up selling the business
course it folded after they sold
it and bought the Swanson winery
in Napa Valley is really based
on really, can
Adam Curry: you toss away the
bottle? Of course you can. You
can toss away the bottle. So
you're right. It's the only
difference is the term TV.
Because that was the big thing
is that and we had TV, dinner
trays and you'd say we had trays
so you set it up. You'd be
sailing on the couch. Yep, right
there on the couch. And it went.
And it was called that it was a
TV dinner tray. Or TV dinner
table. Which one was it? I don't
remember. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: still have a set
of him I used to use came around
when she was a little girl.
Yeah, we have to eat in the
dining room.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, it was
a big deal if we could eat in
front of the TV that was like
oh, okay, kids. Because cool
because the movies aren't
waiting for before we had video
recorders. How can we sit? Can
we watch Can we eat dinner while
we're watching TV mom and now
it's just a throw it in the
microwave? Eat it while you're
on your video game and scrolling
on Twitter. Now how we've
devolved let's start fencing
kids start fencing. Okay, well
there was some kind of odd I
have a couple of clips I would
like to play them. The M five M
just went off the rails with
this Rona McDaniel Rana Rana
McDaniels Yeah, I remember
firing. I have these are
actually from deadline. So it's
what's your face? Nicole
John C Dvorak: wall and it'll be
from Jessie wall. Walker.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I'm
gonna since it's about MSNBC and
not Jesse walking. To play these
first times
Unknown: in which we do this
when we meet you and us here at
the table are don't have to tell
you this. Dire, the show has
dedicated itself to a jarring
pursuit of the uncomfortable
truth about our politics and our
political leaders and our
justice system. And, yes, the
media today, this network, this
part of that story. On Friday,
NBC News announced it had hired
Rhonda McDaniel as a paid
contributor. By Saturday night
it was reported in The Wall
Street Journal that MSNBC
President Rashida Jones had
separated this network from that
decision indicating that Rhonda
McDaniel would not appear on our
air.
Adam Curry: I love the series
s&s of just how serious Nicole
Wallace takes herself and the
journalistic integrity of the
NBC news department.
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
story because of the NBC. The
guy who runs the news
department, being a spineless
weenie. And everybody and this
is the most amazing thing I've
ever witnessed that some news
that these people think they're
newsman, and then they're not.
They're just a bunch of
chatterboxes
Adam Curry: I'm Walter
Cronkite's, Prodigy debits I
Unknown: Sunday morning
following her first paid
appearance on NBC Meet the
Press. My colleague, Chuck Todd
went full William McElroy
Adam Curry: went for what?
William Knakal who's William
McAvoy?
John C Dvorak: Bye bye be right.
You're asking the wrong guy. And
they'll look up William McAfee
Unknown: on behalf of who's
paying her. What was that the
RNC? She did say that, hey, I'm
speaking for the party. I get
that that's part of the job. So
what about here, when NBC made
the decision to give her NBC
News is credibility. You guys?
What does she bring NBC News.
And when we make deals like
this, and I've been at this
company a long time, you're
doing it for access, access to
audience, sometimes it's access
to an individual. And we can
have a journalistic ethics
debate about that. I have that.
Unfortunately, this interview is
always going to be looked
through the prism of who is she
speaking for? Unfortunately,
Adam Curry: they didn't have the
debate about all the shields
that they have hired, like John
Brennan, for access to the
intelligence community, all the
former generals they have for
access to the military
industrial complex. They have
Scott, what's his face from
Pfizer? You know, he's always on
CNBC, for access to Big Pharma.
This is that's the debate that I
would have liked to have seen.
You have chip Todd, Todd
podcaster, that you find out who
that guy is.
John C Dvorak: There's a million
of them, including the ex CEO of
Pan American Airways. No, you
can't figure out who it is a
football player, a botanist.
There's, there's that name is
very common. So I don't know
what the reference is to and I
guess you'd have to work at
MSNBC to understand it back to
Unknown: Nicole Wallace. My
colleagues, Joe Scarborough and
Mika Brzezinski also weighed in
this morning.
We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring. But if we were we
would have strongly objected to
it for several reasons. Oh, it's
Adam Curry: the newsroom on HBO.
That's, well, there's a
reference for you. The guy that
you're looking for.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it's a
fictional character
Unknown: character behind but if
it were, we would have strongly
objected to it for several
reasons, including, but not
limited to, as lawyers might
say, Miss McDaniels role in
Donald Trump's fake electoral
scheme. And her pressuring
election officials to not
certify election results while
Donald Trump was on the phone.
To be clear, oh, we believe NBC
News should seek out
conservative Republican voices
to provide balance in their
election coverage. But it should
be conservative Republicans not
a person who used her position
of power to be an anti democracy
election denier.
Adam Curry: Love it when the
news reports on itself and
they're not just reporting on.
On other news, people know
themself. They take themselves
so Do you not realize that we
all laugh at you? That we mock
you? And and wait and this is
the kicker? They take themselves
so seriously. For what are they
doing? Like 900,000 viewers?
This podcast has more listeners
than you have viewers people.
Unknown: For our part here.
We're gonna cover this story as
part of our ongoing series of
conversations about American
autocracy asking the question
are positing the theory that it
could happen here? I'm gonna
read to you an excerpt from
Timothy Snyder's on tyranny.
Timothy
Adam Curry: Snyder on to who is
this?
John C Dvorak: Oh no, is
Adam Curry: this another queer
reference and it's
Unknown: standing by to talk to
us. This is from the first page
that's the first chapter of on
tyranny, quote, most of the
power of authoritarianism is
freely given in times like these
individuals think ahead about
what a more repressive
government will want, and then
offer themselves without being
asked. A citizen who adapts in
this way is teaching power, what
it can do and quote in this new
either way.
Adam Curry: It's Timothy.
Timothy knows what he's talking
about. This they are the
witnesses fart sniffing. That's
with this is it's what farts
sniffing the sniffing each
other's farts. This is nasty and
then
Unknown: offer themselves
without being asked. A citizen
who adapts in this way is
teaching power, what it can do
and quote, in this instance, NBC
News either wittingly or
unwittingly is teaching election
deniers that what they can do
stretches well beyond appearing
on our air in interviews to
peddle lies about the sanctity
and integrity of our elections,
which Ron McDaniels did
yesterday at the press. Can you
say as you sit here today, did
Joe Biden win the election fair
and square one, he's
the legitimate environment
where and square one it's
certified, it's done. But I do
want
to say that why has now to be
able
to I'm gonna push back a little
because I do think it's fair to
say there were problems in 2020
and to say that does not mean
he's not
Adam Curry: gonna win, you know,
wait for it. Here we go.
Unknown: But we've also said
election deniers is not just
they can do that on our airwaves
with that they can do that as
one of us as bad carrying
employees of NBC News as paid
contributors to our sacred
airwaves.
John C Dvorak: I have that in
one of my clips are so far so
good airways.
Adam Curry: You're on. You're on
cable Lady and Our sacred
airwaves. You're on dying cable.
Everyone's cutting the cord with
you. Oh mio Mio.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Love this
sacred airway could
Adam Curry: airwaves. Yeah, how
about that? Everyone get the VAX
sacred airwaves. Okay, well,
since I'll just blow right into
Trump here.
John C Dvorak: But I want to
play my Jesse clips because they
get a little better about
Adam Curry: how many of you have
I hate that I hate the Jesse
stories.
John C Dvorak: Jesse Jesse
Weller his. His presentation is
sucks. Is it's decent here. Oh,
Rona one.
Adam Curry: You don't have any
you don't have Rhona one. Oh,
fiasco is that the one Okay,
Unknown: McDaniels out. NBC just
announced they're firing the
former RNC Chairwoman after one
day on the job. I'm banning
Adam Curry: him after this. I'm
banning Jesse Walter Walton from
our airwaves. That's
Unknown: point three Scaramucci
from our sacred airwaves.
Chairman Cesar Conde just sent
out a memo to employees that
reads, I want to personally
apologize to our team members
who felt we let them down. We
will redouble our efforts to
seek voices. They represent
different parts of the political
spectrum. The talent is already
taking a victory lap.
I still feel I still feel like a
little it always feels wrong to
talk about things, you know, in
the company. And I think it's a
show of respect for the people
who work at this company. You
know, it's not about hiring a
Republican. It's not even about
hiring somebody that's Trump
ties. This was a really specific
case because of Ms. McDaniels
and her involvement in the
election interference stuff. And
I'm grateful that our our
leadership was willing to do
that. I think this the bold,
strong, resilient
thing Oh, resilient. So NBC
breasted a 180 after the talent
revolted. The people who were
involved
in hiring Ronna Romney McDaniel,
they don't know the Nixon rule.
No one close to the crimes. This
is about
truth versus lies service to the
country versus service to one
man committed to toppling our
democratic system.
But we've also said election
deniers is not just they can do
that on our airwaves with that
they can do that, as one of us.
As bad carrying employees of NBC
News is paid contributors to our
sacred airwaves.
You wouldn't hire a pig pocket
to work as a TSA screener. Oh
no, I find the decision to put
her on the payroll. It's
inexplicable. This
Adam Curry: is what our news
media has become their reporting
on other news media is great.
It's it's it's atrocious.
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
these clips are better than the
ones you provided because it's
got Rachel in there. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: so much.
John C Dvorak: We have a double
band we have the band Jesse
Waller.
Adam Curry: Plus, and Daniel's
all of them.
Unknown: The second was a
kicker. Rhonda McDaniel tells
fox that she still hasn't heard
anything from NBC. She learned
she was getting fired by reading
it in the media. And now she's
looking for a lawyer and her
agency that walked her into this
gig CAA just dropped her
John C Dvorak: died now there's
information for you. Yeah, well,
I will agree the way C a blocked
her into the deal and then fired
her. What kind of what kind of
representatives are is that? Is
that a true story and we know
that for a Fact. Well,
Adam Curry: yes. And do you know
that most news people have an
agent and it's UTA universal
talent agents agency who manage
the talent, according to I
believe, what stories need to be
massaged by whom and where they,
you know, this. Laura Logan was
telling me about this that you
know, her agent will be talking
to her boss at CBS. And in the
age won't be at all she's
perfect to go to Afghanistan,
these this is underreported
under investigated, the talent
agencies have a lot of power.
And it's unjust.
John C Dvorak: Didn't this crop
up in a recent strike against
some of these guys by one of the
Writers Guild or somebody that
said that these agents were
having too much power? Remember
that was like five six years
ago?
Adam Curry: I vaguely remember
we should ask Dana. Dana well
let us know. Actually,
John C Dvorak: he would give me
a little Yeah, I could get a lot
of information about who
Adam Curry: is who is baby a
ginger spices. Agent I want to
get the her agents.
John C Dvorak: News thing is
newspeople being controlled by
the agent, this is bullcrap all
of
Adam Curry: them at NBC or with
UTA as far as I know. And I hear
him talking about it sometimes
you have
John C Dvorak: to disclaim it.
That's the real underlying thing
because she was represented by
CAA we
Adam Curry: will see a are the
ones who who organized the Well,
what was it called? Not never
again. Enough was enough. Stop.
What was it the around the
Harvey Weinstein thing? Yeah,
Melissa Gilbert. What was
John C Dvorak: all over tallies?
It's how famous it was. We can't
remember. Well, they
Adam Curry: suck at doing the
real work. What was the name of
that? Me too.
John C Dvorak: The Me too. Me
too movement.
Adam Curry: But there was an but
there was another one. They had
us not Melissa Gilbert. That's
horrible. She's fishy
John C Dvorak: cat hats.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. They
had it at the at the Oscars.
They were all wearing T shirts.
Oh, yeah. And what was the name
is? What was Rose McGowan with
her about I'm with her now.
Time's up. Time's up. That's it.
Times up and and who was that?
That That actress who is married
to a CIA agent. Time's up
Florida one now but it was she
was important.
John C Dvorak: Tallulah
Bankhead?
Adam Curry: Not even No. Not
even close. I'm thinking about
it now. And we'll get to it.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, that
you're just hoping the chat room
comes.
Adam Curry: I know I'm waiting
for like, come on trolls. What
are you doing? What are you
doing? Time's up was the one and
those in there some? Some
actress and she was all very
important to me. And she was she
was leading this and then it
kind of failed and then everyone
sunk away into the background.
Things always flop in there.
Yeah, they listen. Listen,
Milan. Oh, there it is.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Oh,
Melissa Malama. Yeah, thank
Adam Curry: you clip custodian.
Anyway, moving right along. So
meanwhile,
John C Dvorak: you get off on me
for bringing in deti clips. And
in here you go off the deep end
with this kind of detail. That's
very celebrity news. Very to
play. Very
Adam Curry: weak comeback Dvorak
very weak. Trying to cry harder.
Meanwhile, Trump Media and
Technology Group dj t stock
ticker short sword sword is now
what are we at now? Six, almost
$62
John C Dvorak: And I think it
hits 75 At one polling dropped
back to fit the same. You see I
Adam Curry: have it 7120 was the
high I believe? And yeah, now
now it's today. It's about it's
6196. So that's working
perfectly. Perfectly for for
Orange Man bad. But we got to
take it one step further. This
is my favorite this
Unknown: morning ahead of his
criminal hush money trial.
Former President Trump is under
a new gag order prohibited from
making public statements about
witnesses, court staff and
jurors in the case concerning
his alleged payment to porn
actress stormy Daniels,
Democrat judge he wants to do
that because they're all trying
to damage Trump as much as
possible.
The gag order still allows Trump
to criticize the judge in
District Attorney. The trial
begins in three weeks, but
another deadline looms closer
Trump has eight days to post a
$175 million bond in a civil
fraud case. A big day on Wall
Street yesterday could help him
with his financial challenges.
Shares in Trump's media company
rose 16% on their first day of
trading, his stake in the
company is now worth more than
four and a half billion dollars.
This company is now valued at
about 1000 times its annual
revenue, it