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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: chemtrails and
broadcasting live from the heart
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of the country here in FEMA
Region number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we want to remind
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you that weather is not climate.
Unless it is I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. That's
right. Beautiful day here in
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Hill Country. Fredericksburg,
Texas is beautiful. It was
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beautiful. We had a couple of
days out
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John C Dvorak: here too. It's
supposed to be raining. Oh,
0:43
Adam Curry: sorry to hear that.
What are the algos telling you
0:47
to be worried about today
everybody? Please check yourself
0:50
check your amygdala make sure
you're worried about all the
0:52
right things. Hey, before we
even get started, I want to say
0:58
you know Tina is on her way to
Florida. So last night she
1:01
actually left to yesterday, so I
had a chance to watch the movie
1:05
produced by Dana Brunetti. No
agenda executive producer
1:10
GranTurismo though
1:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Wow.
1:14
Adam Curry: I have seen a lot of
race movies. I would say this is
1:20
the best one. It should I agree.
It should receive an Oscar for
1:23
something. Well, too late. No,
no. And I also
1:28
John C Dvorak: I use it to say I
got to see it on IMAX so you can
1:32
bet that was it's
1:34
Adam Curry: everyone had warned
me it starts a little slow. A
1:36
little slow. It granted a little
did a little bit for a second.
1:40
Oh yeah, it
1:41
John C Dvorak: does start a
little slow. But I thought it
1:44
speeds up like a car.
1:45
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, it was
so good. And I loved the casting
1:49
of Jan's mom. Geri Halliwell,
Gary Halliwell. Cherry cheer
1:55
Gary Halliwell. Spice Girl.
1:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
1:59
Adam Curry: I thought that was
great. With Oprah's great
2:01
casting to put her in. Notice
that know that? Because that
2:06
means that you even you and I
can get into his movies. Right?
2:12
To put a Spice Girl in your
racing movie. Come on, we can
2:15
get in there. And
congratulations to Ashlynn speed
2:19
number 32. No a generation
racer. She's racing F four.
2:25
Yeah, she's moved up. No sooner
have we talked about her? Have
2:30
we helped her career? Have we
put her on the podium? Then she
2:34
goes to Formula four. Yes, this
is great. I'm telling you f1 f1
2:38
for the win. Let's see. Well,
they've knocked the bridge down.
2:47
John C Dvorak: This I love
watching that rich go down over
2:49
and over. Man Well damn this
thing. There's
2:52
Adam Curry: there's a lot of
speculation, a lot of a lot of
2:56
information a lot of things we
do know we don't know. Of
3:00
course.
3:00
John C Dvorak: Well we know now
that the more important thing
3:03
is, they've got to change the
name of the bridge because
3:07
Francis got key is a bad guy.
3:10
Unknown: He's a racist to
Francis Scott Key Bridge. Now a
3:14
barrier for a key shipping lane,
the Port of Baltimore is
3:17
expected to be closed
indefinitely. Please investigate
3:21
the collision that caused it to
collapse and work to clear the
3:24
wreckage is critically important
to our economy. Last year, the
3:28
port processed over 52 million
tons of foreign cargo or some
3:32
$80 billion each day it shut
down a $217 million trade loss
3:39
and while Baltimore handles just
3% of container volume for the
3:42
Eastern Gulf Coast's it's the
top US port for automobile
3:46
imports and exports. Nearly
850,000 vehicles passed through
3:51
last year. The port is also
crucial for energy exports
3:55
shipping some 20 million tons of
coal per year most to India,
4:00
it's a key lifeline for the
local economy as well accounting
4:03
for more than 15,000 direct jobs
and nearly 140,000 indirect jobs
4:08
generating $3.3 billion in
personal income.
4:12
We're looking at not having
ships coming in for no one knows
4:16
how long at this point, you
know, and that's going to affect
4:18
the lives of longshoremen and
stevedores and tugboat crew,
4:23
some
4:23
40 ships remain stranded in
Baltimore Harbor automakers like
4:27
Ford, GM and Volkswagen say they
will be rerouting their shipping
4:31
to avoid major disruptions, the
accident certain to have a
4:35
massive impact on the regional
supply chain and the local
4:39
economy. Yeah.
4:41
Adam Curry: The fallout you
know, really bad.
4:43
John C Dvorak: That was a better
I have a report from that
4:46
report. Where did you get that?
4:47
Adam Curry: That was from Papa
France. 24. It was good, right?
4:54
Because it had the economic
stuff
4:55
John C Dvorak: and a bunch of
good stuff. Listen, here's what
4:57
NPR did.
4:59
Adam Curry: Let me see The NPR
here we go see it as
5:02
Unknown: divers continue their
search for missing construction
5:04
workers following the collapse
of a bridge in Baltimore.
5:07
Investigators are looking at
evidence in the case. Apparently
5:10
out of control container ships
smashed into the bridges support
5:14
structure early Tuesday morning,
causing the massive structure to
5:17
crash into the water and under
the ship. The bodies of two
5:21
workers are recovered day other
workers who are on the bridge at
5:23
the time are missing and
presumed dead. The Biden
5:26
administration is promising an
aggressive effort to reopen the
5:28
Port of Baltimore to shipping
traffic and rebuild the
5:30
structure.
5:32
John C Dvorak: We got on. I
know. I just as an aside, I do
5:39
have a kind of an interesting
tidbit clip. Okay.
5:42
Unknown: Remember station w wipr
talked to one of their co
5:44
workers who said he was
scheduled to work on the bridge
5:47
the next morning, he said the
men held from Guatemala,
5:49
Honduras, El Salvador and
Mexico. Tragedy. Oh, yeah, no,
5:53
we're all
5:53
John C Dvorak: a bunch of
illegals that we're working on
5:55
to deal with that's why they
don't talk about it.
5:57
Adam Curry: In fact, the
president of Mexico has already
6:01
complained. Let me see. Lopez
Obrador said that insensitive
6:09
irresponsible politicians did
not understand the contribution
6:12
of migrants in the US. They
found two bodies in a pickup
6:16
truck. Yeah, that's that's your
that's your your high paying
6:22
good union jobs. That's right.
Dignity. Yeah, they illegals
6:26
working on of course, fixing the
potholes. We have boots on the
6:31
ground. By the
6:32
John C Dvorak: way, try to stop
a second. So I went into my
6:36
tires leaking. Oh, no. And so I
had to get a new expensive tire.
6:44
Because it wasn't warrantied
because it was caused by a
6:47
pothole. You had pothole damage
to my tire is going to cost me a
6:52
lot of money,
6:53
Adam Curry: you need some
illegals. I'm sure we can get
6:56
some let's go to the Home Depot
and have them and pick them up
6:59
and have them fill up your
potholes. boots on the ground.
7:05
From one of our producers, he
works for a port company owned
7:09
by SSA Marine, which controls
port operations at the Baltimore
7:13
marine port. This is why we have
the best podcast in the
7:15
universe, we have the best
producers in the universe.
7:18
Everybody's an expert at
something, I'm sure this guy has
7:21
been sitting around listening to
the show forever. Thinking is
7:25
great, I have nothing much to
contribute, then all of a sudden
7:28
Whoa. And that's when you email
us that's how you're supposed to
7:32
do it. It was confirmed there
were two pilots and control the
7:36
vessel the vessel was leaving
the port after being loaded
7:38
speed six knots after they lost
power. They issued a mayday
7:42
which allowed emergency traffic
closure of the bridge. And I
7:47
mean all those videos, it
doesn't look like there was a
7:49
lot of time so that losing
power, there was enough time for
7:53
the May Day and for them to
close the traffic on the bridge
7:56
guaranteed it was late. But so I
think that's could have been
7:58
much worse. They followed all
the emergency procedures, which
8:02
includes emergency dropping of
the anchor, the smoke, this is
8:05
from internal communications. So
take it for what it's worth. Of
8:09
course, the smoke scene is from
the emergency generators, which
8:12
takes several minutes to kick
in, they tried to stop the ship,
8:15
but it was too short of a
distance. The cause of the power
8:18
failures still unknown. Although
dirty fuel is a possibility. It
8:23
seems they lost control of the
steering while motor and
8:26
propeller was still going. A
collision was inevitable with
8:30
the vessel this size and this
amount of displacement confirmed
8:33
that people died but you
probably have that information.
8:36
Thank you very much to our boots
on the ground. So that's the
8:39
official word there at the port.
Now, it was really odd. My
8:45
neighbor out here, Laura Logan,
she was on the stick right away
8:50
about this right away, calling
it a cyber event. Yes, and she
8:59
was all over a banyan show and
Newsmax or news nation, whatever
9:04
it is. And now let
9:08
John C Dvorak: me just let me
just say two of them one is
9:10
Newsmax and the other one is
news. Naisha there's
9:12
Adam Curry: two different
things. Now I hold my neighbor
9:16
in high regard. I know who she's
married to. I know that she does
9:20
know
9:20
John C Dvorak: your beer
friends. Yeah, they were
9:22
friends.
9:24
Adam Curry: She started coming
to our church as well which is
9:26
interesting. She definitely has
intelligence sources. And now
9:35
I'm going to play two clips. The
first one is from winch because
9:37
she has the same story is very
long. So I tried to get the two
9:40
concise clips. But the first one
is really her sources. And
9:44
although the none of her
reporting that I've seen she is
9:47
she's staking her reputation on
this, which for someone like
9:52
Laura is a big deal
9:53
Unknown: US intelligence
elements within US intelligence,
9:57
have identified this as a cyber
attack. And the way that this is
10:01
done is using a technique which
is called spoofing. So there's a
10:04
lot of conversation that you
know about the feed, the ship
10:07
was going that calls were made
to emergency services or to the
10:11
Harbormaster. And, you know,
there's a lot of conversation
10:14
about, exactly, you know, all
the different variances that
10:19
happened to you. But what they
don't want you to talk about,
10:21
right, because they introduce
all these other things, so that
10:24
you will not have a conversation
about how this is done. It's a
10:28
very simple technique, and it's
called spoofing in the
10:31
intelligence community. And
basically, what you do is you
10:34
identify what is the GPS signal,
we all know this is satellite
10:39
base that the ship is using to
power its, you know, its GPS,
10:43
and to guide that ship on its
course. And you create a more
10:47
powerful signal, so you
overwhelm the signal that
10:51
they're using. And what this
means is effectively, whoever is
10:54
on that ship piloting. And when
that pilot is on board, a
10:57
complex maneuver like that has
to be handled by the harbor
11:00
pilot. So he's watching his GPS
signal, and it's telling him
11:04
that he is on course, that
everything is fine. But now he's
11:09
looking at what he sees. And it
doesn't look the same as what's
11:13
on the GPS. And what the harbor
pilot and the crew are now
11:17
looking at is as they're getting
closer and closer, they're
11:21
realizing Wait a minute, we're
not in the channel, what we're
11:24
seeing with our own eyes doesn't
match what's on the GPS, but the
11:28
GPS is telling us we're still on
core. And so then they start to
11:32
panic, right. And as they
realize that they're in a really
11:37
bad situation, they're now
trying no likelihood, right?
11:40
What they're trying to do
everything that they can to stop
11:43
it, but at a certain point,
physics takes over the weight of
11:47
the ship, the weight of the
cargo, the speed of the water,
11:51
the sharpness of the turn,
there's nothing that you can do
11:54
at that point.
11:55
Adam Curry: So this is Chi
stands by this, that it was GPS
11:59
spoofing. And it was dark of
night, and it was timed at
12:03
night. So that the you know,
just have the, there's not a
12:07
whole bunch of eyes would be on
the bridge and seeing what was
12:09
happening. And here's a clip
from the that was little
12:15
yesterday. Here's a clip from
this morning about our sources.
12:17
Unknown: I'm talking to people
who are on the inside some who
12:20
are in active duty, some who are
retired, and everyone literally
12:24
from critical infrastructure in
Department of Homeland Security
12:27
to the intelligence agencies,
they know there's no other it's
12:32
there. This is a cyber attack on
a critical infrastructure
12:35
corridor for the United States.
This is you know, for those
12:38
people think this is just a
river. This is in Baltimore,
12:41
what is this matter? You don't
know anything about what you're
12:44
talking about? This the I 94
corridor on the Eastern Seaboard
12:50
is literally what connects the
north and south and when I talk
12:53
about hazardous materials,
right, this is a brilliant, well
12:57
planned strategic attack on one
of the most important supply
13:01
chains in the United States of
America. The only other one is
13:05
in the western side in
California. That's the only one
13:07
that's busier. And what you have
does you now have shut it down?
13:12
Adam Curry: What do you think
about that? Is that bridge
13:14
really that important? Is it
visit vital for our
13:19
infrastructure?
13:20
John C Dvorak: Apparently, it
wasn't vital before 1978 when it
13:23
was built.
13:25
Adam Curry: I always have to
talk to her about two things.
13:27
One, I've got to talk to her
about the Right. Right. And and
13:31
also I should not tell him not
to stand too close to jet
13:34
engines. Don't want to get
justice. Kidding. Kidding. I
13:42
mean, she's staking her
reputation on it, which is this
13:46
way.
13:46
John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting thesis that you'd
13:50
have to try to figure out how it
could be done to overwhelm and
13:56
it would have been reported by
more than one I would think it
13:59
was it couldn't be targeted
unless they had to I don't know
14:01
how they could do that. But it's
possible, I suppose. To target
14:08
one. Oh,
14:09
Adam Curry: no. I mean, it's a
bit much GPS spoofing is is very
14:14
easy. That's easy. That's super
easy.
14:16
John C Dvorak: Is it easy to to
do it so nobody else notices?
14:20
Oh, yeah,
14:20
Adam Curry: you just need a
transmitter that is just closer
14:23
to the receiver then blocks out
the satellite signal?
14:27
Absolutely.
14:28
John C Dvorak: That I think is
the I'm not I really I like to
14:30
hear from some experts that we
have that.
14:33
Adam Curry: By the way. 1600
airplanes in the last four days
14:37
have had GPS issues over the
Baltic Sea. I mean, this we know
14:41
this happens. It's the easiest
thing to do was
14:43
John C Dvorak: also a solar
flare, which was attributed to
14:46
this issue. Oh, I hadn't heard
that one was there and yeah,
14:49
they came out and said well, the
solar flare has been causing
14:52
trouble.
14:57
Adam Curry: But spoofing is very
easy. We GPS it's really is. I
15:02
mean, you just have to have a
signal sending, sending out the
15:07
the skewed data, but it just
seems like wow, okay, and then
15:12
that doesn't account for the
timing of the engine going out
15:16
and I mean that there's a lot of
a lot of holes a lot of holes
15:20
but I still don't know if this
because her big claim is that
15:27
this will take four to five
years that the structure you
15:31
have no idea how bad this is
because of the cement pylon that
15:35
probably you don't have to build
a new bridge. That's likely
15:38
true. But is it really? Is it
really that crippling? I mean, I
15:43
know that you won't be able to
get your Mercedes Benz on time I
15:46
heard I heard the CEO on CNBC
Oh, well, we'll get your your
15:52
your Evie Mercedes Benz to you
as soon as possible. I don't
15:57
know that. That's the thing that
only she's talking about. It's
16:02
much more interesting to me than
then the GPS spoofing is is this
16:05
really that important of,
16:08
John C Dvorak: of a cord was a
3% cord. We know that right?
16:12
Adam Curry: But she's talking
about the bridge itself. It's
16:13
not the port. It's the bridge
16:15
John C Dvorak: though. The
bridge Yeah, will take a while
16:16
to build but she says the one
that was put up was, I guess
16:20
thrown up. That was a piece of
crap. I've never seen anything
16:23
collapse like that. Well, the
whole thing looks like a
16:28
TinkerToy going down.
16:30
Adam Curry: Well, if you I mean,
hitting that pylon is I mean,
16:33
that's yeah,
16:34
John C Dvorak: we're just single
point of failure to that
16:36
extreme. That was poorly
designed. If did that's the
16:38
case. Okay. Jhansi.
16:39
Adam Curry: Dvorak is terrible
engineer. I mean,
16:43
John C Dvorak: did you see the
tweet just looking at you not to
16:45
be a chicken? You didn't know a
bad AK. Did
16:48
Adam Curry: you see the Twin
Towers? How about that?
16:51
Unknown: They will I
16:52
John C Dvorak: don't think that
was legit. Well, maybe this was
16:54
this seemed legit. They just
said,
16:56
Adam Curry: How about building
seven that you're you're
16:58
complaining about a bridge, that
thing fell down out of sympathy?
17:04
So I don't know that it will
unfold. But if so no one else is
17:11
talking about that, to me is the
most interesting part. Is it
17:14
really that bad? And man, it's
like when you get a whole bunch
17:19
of people calling you from
intelligence. Oh, yeah. You
17:23
know, is that? I mean, that
could be Q level stuff. Like,
17:28
oh, this is this is it, man.
This is it. And by the way, now
17:33
that I have you on the phone,
JFK Jr. is still alive.
17:39
John C Dvorak: Which is a big
Macedon, which is,
17:42
Adam Curry: which is a big one
out here. That's a big one. A
17:45
lot of people talking about
that. I
17:46
John C Dvorak: find that
peculiar that it would be so
17:50
prevalent in that area. Oh,
17:53
Adam Curry: it's it's very
interesting.
17:58
John C Dvorak: You're living in
an area that is loaded with
18:00
crackpots. That feel
18:02
Adam Curry: right at home? Yeah,
really. It's a beautiful thing.
18:05
It's a beautiful, beautiful
thing. All right. So that was
18:09
why we really just don't have
any more everybody's seen.
18:13
Everybody's seen the video
footage. I can understand where
18:17
if you hit them. It's so it's
such a perfect hit. That I mean,
18:23
even if they just hit the trust
of the bridge, it would have
18:25
taken that thing out. But it
really hit just the sweet spot,
18:29
which you don't really expect to
happen. So and and if it is, is
18:36
it. More important to me is is
it really going to cripple our
18:40
internal infrastructure? That's
the I thought you would know
18:43
more about the I 95 Corridor
seems like something you would
18:46
know I know
18:47
John C Dvorak: about the I 95
corridor? Yeah, but far as I'm
18:51
concerned as back east I'm, I'm
a West Coast guy gonna carry
18:56
Adam Curry: that's the spirit
John.
18:59
John C Dvorak: We looked at
China for our way of cleaning.
19:02
Adam Curry: Well, all right.
Since we're talking about China,
19:08
this is hasn't really hit the
news that hard here in the
19:11
States, but it's big in the UK.
19:13
Unknown: Yeah, it's dominating
the British papers today stored
19:16
in what the Daily Mail calls and
highly unusual move. The US and
19:21
UK publicly identified China as
a source of a decade's long
19:27
cyber attack campaign that
campaign targeted among others,
19:31
politicians, journalists,
institutions in the UK, the US
19:36
and New Zealand now says that
its parliamentary system was
19:39
also targeted in 2021. America,
the US has announced that it
19:45
announced criminal charges and
sanctions against seven hackers
19:49
who they say live in China.
Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister,
19:53
British Prime Minister is now
under pressure to do more, to
19:56
fight and to sanction those who
carried out these attacks. acts,
20:00
particularly as anger is growing
over the fact that Britain only
20:04
slapped sanctions on to hackers.
They belong to a group called
20:08
advanced persistent threat or a
PT not to give you an idea of
20:13
the scale of these attacks,
20:15
Adam Curry: what kind of what
kind of hacker name is that?
20:19
Fear sitting down with a bunch
of hackers like oh, we got up a
20:22
cool name like a non Oh, yeah.
advanced persistent threat.
20:26
Yeah, nailed it, bro. advanced
20:29
Unknown: persistent threat or a
PT not to give you an idea of
20:32
the scale of these attacks. For
in one instance, an attack on
20:38
the UK Electoral Commission gave
the hackers access to the names
20:42
and addresses of 40 million
people registered to vote. One
20:46
MP, saying Britain turned up to
a gunfight with a wooden spoon
20:51
is in a way in a bid to describe
the response of Britain to
20:55
punishing these hackers as the
Times reports it, China is set
20:59
to be declared a threat to
national security. So
21:02
Adam Curry: bemrose in the troll
room says that a PT is what the
21:05
white hats give to groups who
they don't have the name of and
21:08
then they'll often put a number
so a PT 35, advanced print, so
21:13
it's not what they call
themselves. It's what we do with
21:16
our good guys call them. And it
sounds to me like an attack on
21:19
five eyes. Now the through a New
Zealand, the UK, the US, all of
21:25
us, it's your pivot to
Indochina. There you go. It's so
21:31
much confusing. collected
21:33
John C Dvorak: a names of 40
million people. Okay. Yeah. So
21:36
why it's called
21:37
Adam Curry: Facebook, what are
you talking about? No,
21:40
John C Dvorak: many Facebook?
21:42
Adam Curry: Many, many Facebook.
So then I hear about that
21:46
Beijing is filing a lawsuit with
the World Trade Organization
21:51
against the United States. Yes,
this is a good story, the same
21:55
issue that the European Union
had on Well, I don't think the
21:58
European Union is filed any
suit. They're complaining about
22:02
the IRA, the infrastructure
Reduction Act, which gives
22:08
incentives to us electric
vehicle makers, and they're
22:12
saying it's racist. It's, it's
discriminatory. And now that's
22:18
one thing, first of all, Boo
China. That's one thing, but
22:22
then Janet Yellen, comes on
Andrea Mitchell show and accuses
22:30
China.
22:31
Unknown: And then he finally
asked you about the New York
22:33
Times report, but other
reporting that we've done on
22:35
Elon Musk and his relationship
with China, obviously, Tesla
22:39
competing now against their
cheaper EVs. But he's really
22:43
dependent on that Chinese
market, very tied in with them.
22:47
He has huge defense contracts
his satellites are satellites we
22:53
rely on for so much of our
communication isn't a national
22:57
security problem. For women and
his rockets, of course, is it a
23:03
national security problem for
our government to have so much
23:06
reliance on this one
entrepreneur? Well, look, we
23:12
take national security very
seriously and want to protect
23:18
our national security. Our
desire is not to shut down
23:25
economic relations with China,
we want to diversify our supply
23:31
chains. But many American firms
operate in China and gained from
23:38
the ability to sell to China's
large market. China obviously
23:43
sells a lot in the United
States. And the competition
23:47
among our firms is by and large,
a healthy thing. We want to
23:53
stabilize that relationship and
not shut it down. But also we
23:59
need to make sure that the
playing field is level and we
24:03
are concerned about Chinese
subsidies and the impact on our
24:07
firms.
24:08
Adam Curry: So she's saying the
Chinese are subsidizing their
24:11
companies. Well, now now now
brakeman clump wishes where we
24:17
say in the old country, that
brace that breaks my clog.
24:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, terrible
saying,
24:25
Adam Curry: Well, if you had
wooden shoes, then you'd be
24:27
you'd understand it. This is a
lot. So are we going down into
24:32
this
24:32
John C Dvorak: something going
on right now? There is a mu BYD
24:36
which is the company that was
evey cars, supposedly going to
24:40
build a mega factory in Mexico
bloodbath, the bloodbath car,
24:43
bloodbath company, BYD bloody
your dream, you're so the
24:50
bloodbath company, BYD is
rolling out this summer, a
24:54
massive campaign to introduce
the BYD electric vehicle to the
24:58
United States, huh Interesting
you can go to their website and
25:01
you can see the movie about and
they're gonna be they're gonna
25:03
be sponsoring the big world cup
or there's some soccer you have
25:06
some soccer
25:07
Adam Curry: well that's not
that's not that's not how you
25:09
get the Americans you know, I
25:10
John C Dvorak: know but they
don't really know they figured
25:12
it out Americans are very slowly
turning to this yeah they're
25:15
Adam Curry: sponsoring UEFA
which is the Euro chaotic that
25:18
is very odd. Why would they but
25:20
John C Dvorak: anyway so we have
the this coming and supposed to
25:24
roll out to summer and we're
going to start seeing we don't
25:26
see it what Chinese cars what's
the big threat? What Chinese car
25:30
is on the road? Name one.
25:33
Adam Curry: I can't that's what
I thought they're all in Russia.
25:38
John C Dvorak: Right? Why does
even bother selling does they
25:41
got Russia to market? Goodbye
Mercedes. Maybe this whole thing
25:45
is about you setting yourself
they bring down this bridge.
25:47
Mercedes can't bring cars here.
They can't sell them to Russia.
25:50
They're screwed. Maybe this is
targeting them. Oh, whatever the
25:54
case
25:55
Adam Curry: like that. This?
Okay, but they were I thought
25:59
they were gonna put them in
Mexico.
26:02
John C Dvorak: But the Mercedes?
No, the BYD. Oh no, they're
26:06
gonna build them in Mexico so
they can get cheaper labor and
26:09
roll them into the country and
save a few bucks a day. They're
26:12
not building him here because no
one's gonna let him do that. But
26:16
they are going to be rolled out
this summer. But tonight, I
26:18
don't think it'd be the Mexican
ones because I don't think that
26:20
factories done or even started
for all I know. Anyway, the this
26:28
is all suspicious. And it's like
a, you know, free trade is
26:32
supposed to be free trade and we
subsidize our people. They
26:36
subsidize their people everybody
subsidize, we're supposed to.
26:39
Adam Curry: The thing is, it's
such a joke. All of this to me
26:42
is a joke. We are in perpetual
relationship with China.
26:47
John C Dvorak: They buy it
again. And there's nothing we
26:49
can do about it. Well, no,
26:51
Adam Curry: I mean, we they buy
our debt and then they have
26:53
dollars and what are you gonna
do with the dollars? I'll go buy
26:55
some land? Buy some real estate
buy San Francisco. Doesn't China
27:00
own a lot of real estate in San
Francisco?
27:03
John C Dvorak: Not that I know
of. I thought they did. Well,
27:05
that would be a good ploy.
27:07
Adam Curry: Wouldn't surprise
me. That's what I always heard
27:10
China. I'd
27:11
John C Dvorak: ever heard this
on our ship. I mean, Chinese is
27:16
a big Chinatown in San
Francisco. There's a lot of
27:18
Chinese in San Francisco and
27:21
Adam Curry: Roush.
27:22
John C Dvorak: Rouse them get
rid of them. They've tried to do
27:24
that before how and why
27:25
Adam Curry: buyers from China
are snatching up Bay Area homes.
27:30
John C Dvorak: The Arizona San
Francisco Oh,
27:32
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Okay,
we're gonna be technical about
27:34
it. This is from 2014
27:37
John C Dvorak: be technical
about it now. Okay. Well,
27:39
Adam Curry: the Bay Area,
California, you know, the part
27:42
you care about? Well,
27:43
John C Dvorak: if I was in
China, I would be by I know in
27:45
my head where I live, which is
in Albany Hill, I called China
27:49
hill.
27:50
Adam Curry: But isn't the whole
point that we're just in this,
27:54
we are the customer, we buy
their stuff? They buy our debt,
27:58
it's the circle, it goes all it?
I mean, actually, Germany had
28:03
this with Russia, which is gone
now. Germany would build
28:09
Mercedes, you know, sell them to
Russia. And Russia supplied all
28:14
kinds of stuff back to them,
including, you know, Deutsche
28:18
Marks until we throw them off of
Swift.
28:24
John C Dvorak: With a bunch of
idiots.
28:26
Adam Curry: Oh, man, did you? I
think I had was it here? Here it
28:31
is. Reuters reports now, Swift
planning launch of new central
28:38
bank digital currency platform
in 12 months. You know, you
28:44
gotta wonder,
28:47
John C Dvorak: you know which
side of the argument you're on?
28:49
Yeah,
28:50
Adam Curry: of course, I'm, I'm
totally on the side of that.
28:52
They're going to do this. It's
inevitable.
28:56
John C Dvorak: So I didn't say I
mean, it may do it. It doesn't
28:58
mean it's gonna be a success.
Oh, no, we're gonna get rid of
29:02
cash. I'm in your life right
before your dad. Yes.
29:06
Adam Curry: Before you're dead
even Yes. Yes. It's already gone
29:10
practically. For all practical
purposes. Yes. Oh, we're
29:14
definitely going to get rid of
cash. Definitely. Well,
29:17
John C Dvorak: that's a huge
mistake. Why?
29:21
Adam Curry: But I mean, the
whole point of a digital central
29:24
bank digital currency is to
easily be able to inflate and
29:28
deflate and manage you know, the
money. The money money. Yeah,
29:32
take Yes. Exactly. To take your
money. That's and they know what
29:36
they just got one step closer.
And Texas slim has been has been
29:42
warning about this. We've been
talking about it for quite a
29:45
while and they finally did it in
the omnibus bill. Well, you're
29:48
gonna hear Massie and some rando
rancher, well,
29:53
Unknown: you know, the left
wants to ban cattle and before
29:55
you can ban anything you need a
registry you need to know where
29:59
it's at and who into it. And
that's why they want to tag
30:02
cattle. We've seen it happen in
Europe. Now on the right, you've
30:05
got some cronies who stand to
make some money from these ear
30:08
tags. They're the ones who get
the $15 million earmark doesn't
30:13
go to USDA, it's going to quote
stakeholders. That is a code
30:17
word for private entities are
getting a handout. And what
30:22
they'll do, they'll verticalized
the industry with this the big
30:24
corporations, you know, you just
talked about China, there for
30:28
corporations control meat
processing United States, once
30:31
owned by China, one's own
Brazil, by Brazil, American
30:34
ranchers will be working for
those organizations if this
30:38
tracking goes through, because
they'll verticalized the
30:40
industry
30:41
said, What's your response to
this tracking of cattle? Are
30:43
you concerned as well?
30:44
Oh, yes, I am. It is the key
that opens the door
30:48
to end to the end of independent
producers across the country.
30:52
And it is a private property
rights issue that we really have
30:57
to consider here. When we start
talking about RFID ID and data
31:01
monitoring monitoring of farmers
and ranchers and their cattle
31:05
herd size, we open up to what
the door for what is going on in
31:09
the European Union. And under
the rules of sustainability,
31:13
sustainable development, we know
that the RFID has led to a land
31:18
seizure in the name of climate
change. So once we open that
31:22
door, there's no going back and
they can come and they can
31:26
monitor, measure, report and
verify everything that's going
31:30
on your on your farmer ranch and
then maybe down the road in the
31:34
name of climate change they can
come and dictate to you the
31:39
rules of their production which
is subjective on from a third
31:42
party verification and it is
extremely dangerous to private
31:45
property rights. This is a
Liberty taker not a Liberty
31:49
maker and
31:50
Adam Curry: this is all part of
what Larry Fink from Blackrock
31:53
calls you know I was he calls it
a commodity now it's like
32:01
creating an wish I remember what
Larry Fink of Blackrock said
32:06
tokenizing every asset that's
what is tokenizing so they want
32:10
to tokenize the herd and then
you can of course you can do all
32:17
kinds of financial stuff once
it's tokenized and you can track
32:20
it and you put your key put your
cow on the blockchain on
32:24
whatever CB DC blockchain there
is and then you have total
32:28
control total control this is
this is happening this is really
32:35
happening the except you know
these guys they should have
32:38
Texas slim on don't get this
Rando guy on Slim's much better
32:41
better look better had
everything much better. So yeah,
32:47
the everything's going to be
digital and although we keep
32:50
laughing about climate change
they're all so crazy that it's
32:55
creeping up on us bit by bit and
then before you know it sorry,
33:00
no be for you because you drove
too much you don't have an Eevee
33:05
John C Dvorak: so the thing that
didn't get much news coverage by
33:08
the mainstream but was on some
of the was on YouTube and
33:13
elsewhere was the big hailstorm
in Texas that took out a solar
33:18
array that's miles and miles of
these panels all busted up by
33:23
the by the by the incoming mail.
Gee, who would have ever thought
33:28
that was that even covered in
the local news where you are?
33:31
Yes. Yeah, it wasn't covered
here
33:34
Adam Curry: a little while your
California you don't care about
33:36
the rest of the nation. Dead
Well,
33:38
John C Dvorak: that's there's
truth to that. Okay. Here's your
33:41
new solar array. Here's the
solar energy clip I
33:44
Adam Curry: Have you have you
have a clip about it. Oh, not
33:47
John C Dvorak: about that
because I can't I never saw it
33:49
except on YouTube. By
33:50
Adam Curry: the way when when it
hails and we've had a couple
33:53
good hail storms. Two things
happen one you keep getting
33:57
emails Hey, it's roof repair guy
here. Want me to check out your
34:00
roof. And the other thing is you
always hear someone some poor
34:04
sap like oh man. My kid parked
the car on the street.
34:10
John C Dvorak: Didn't think of
course he had all dinged up
34:13
Adam Curry: windshields broken,
windshields broken and love. You
34:16
can
34:16
John C Dvorak: break a
windshield with a hail stone and
34:18
you can break a solar panel with
one Treasury
34:21
Unknown: Secretary Janet Yellen
toward a factory in Georgia
34:23
today that will soon start
making solar cells for the first
34:27
time in seven years. And Bureau
Scott Horsley reports Yellen
34:30
says federal tax credits helped
pave the way for the plants
34:32
reopening Neva
34:33
factory in Norcross, Georgia. It
was one of the first plants in
34:36
the country to manufacture solar
cells when it opened back in
34:39
2007. It struggled to compete
though with cheaper solar
34:43
imports, and the factory was
shuttered 10 years later. Now
34:46
it's and he was trying again.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
34:49
credits clean energy tax breaks
and the inflation reduction Oh.
34:54
Domestic manufacturer X
34:56
ray thanks to the IRA investing
in clean energy is a good value
35:01
proposition. And for the future
yellow notes
35:06
Adam Curry: that solar energy
accounts for more than half the
35:08
new power generating capacity
added in the US last year. So
35:12
this is just proof this is proof
that one wasn't a trillion
35:14
dollars I think the inflation
Reduction Act was I think a
35:19
trillion plus yeah a trillion
plus dollars proof that it just
35:22
went to private companies may go
I'm obey Janet, because you sent
35:26
it to us we'll make some solar
panels. Yeah, it'd be great.
35:30
John C Dvorak: You wish to in
other words, they couldn't be
35:31
profitable making them
competing. Exactly. We think a
35:35
level playing field with the
Chinese came in and just blew
35:37
everybody away. China's
35:39
Adam Curry: right them. They
shouldn't be suing us. We're no
35:42
good, though. They're no good
either. Hey, oh, it's
35:46
John C Dvorak: just the system's
no good.
35:47
Adam Curry: Since we're on
climate change. I have a big
35:51
mystery answered. Something that
we've been talking about on this
35:56
podcast for well, probably since
its existence. And if it came
36:05
out of the blue all of a sudden
from the high wire, you know,
36:08
the high wire Dell big tree.
36:11
John C Dvorak: I'm familiar with
it. I've never listened to it.
36:13
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, during
COVID He had all kinds of great
36:16
information. Oh, well, good for
you. I think Dell used to
36:19
produce medical shows on M five
M like the doctors I believe he
36:24
produced that one. No
36:25
John C Dvorak: Good for him.
Yeah. So he Yeah, we need people
36:27
like this. I guess he's Yes,
exactly. Because he can't get a
36:30
job anywhere else.
36:32
Adam Curry: So we had on climate
engineering expert, Jim Lee. And
36:37
man, that he he just laid it all
out and explained why we've been
36:43
seeing all those Tic Tac Toe
things in the sky, which is
36:48
seems to have increased
incredibly in the past. Do you
36:50
have a lot of chemtrails in the
sky where you are? Or you have
36:54
nothing? Nothing ever happened?
Nothing bad in California. You
36:57
know,
36:58
John C Dvorak: there's I saw
like one case, one trail maybe a
37:03
week ago. No. And oh,
37:05
Adam Curry: so but you've seen
the pictures of people taking
37:07
pictures of the sky? Yeah, I've
seen these criss cross. Which it
37:11
Look, I've been a pilot since
2006. I've never seen it so bad
37:16
as it is now. But you know what?
This guy has solved the mystery
37:20
of the chemtrails,
37:22
Unknown: the Obama
administration while everybody
37:26
was having the Trump Hillary
Clinton election, you know, wall
37:31
to wall coverage. Everything
always happens. While nobody's
37:34
looking. Right? The Obama
administration signed the
37:37
federal alternative aviation
fuel emissions pact with the
37:42
European Union, China and the
ICA. This can be summed up in
37:48
just a couple word biofuels for
contrail control, which goes
37:54
back to what alrik Schumann was
saying, to change the chemical
37:59
constituents coming out of jet
aircraft, so that there's less
38:03
warming, more cooling contrails.
So I got in touch with the guy
38:08
at the FAA, who was testing the
biofuels. His name is Dr. Ranga.
38:14
Sai how thorry that he's the
head of the FAA aviation climate
38:20
change research initiative. And
I specifically asked him, and I
38:24
sent him the documentation as to
what did alrik Shuman mean by
38:29
less warming, more cooling
contrails predictable for
38:32
operational planning. He says,
We want more contrail induced
38:37
cirrus clouds by day and none by
night. This is this is intent. I
38:45
have this signed in writing
directly from the head of the
38:49
FAA s. ACC era.
38:52
Adam Curry: So if you've ever
looked up in the sky, he has
38:54
seen all those, I'll just call
out call them contrails. They
38:58
don't evaporate, they eventually
spread out and become a cloud
39:03
cover cirrus clouds, which are
the flat clouds. And this,
39:07
apparently what this Jim is
saying comes from a specific
39:12
mixture of biofuels that is used
in the aviation industry. And it
39:16
is in fact, what is creating
these grids in the sky. Now
39:20
Unknown: you look and you see
American Airlines pairing up
39:25
with Google artificial
intelligence to route planes
39:30
around contrail forming spaces
in the sky. These are called Ice
39:36
supersaturated regions,
basically Google AI and goes
39:41
back to what Ulrich Schumann had
actually created in 2010. He
39:46
pretty he brings something
called co sip. The contrail
39:49
Cirrus prediction tool. CO CIP
is involved is evolved to be
39:55
part of what's called the next
gen transportation system in
39:59
America. Oh, that's what makes
all the tic tac toes in the sky
40:03
will learn.
40:06
John C Dvorak: If it was Google
AI wouldn't knows contrails be
40:09
black?
40:11
Adam Curry: No. Why? Oh,
40:14
Unknown: wow, oh, hey, oh, part
of what's called the next gen
40:19
transportation system in
America. That's what makes all
40:23
the tic tac toes in the sky. It
is a supercomputer that routes
40:28
all the flights. And inside that
supercomputer is a subsystem
40:32
called the aviation environment
design tool. AED T in the ADT,
40:41
it tells planes, at what
altitude to fly, how much fuel
40:45
to burn all of these things. And
it takes in environmental
40:50
concerns into how it routes
flights. And
40:53
Adam Curry: that brings us right
back to the Biden Administration
40:56
with an executive order which we
already knew was coming. And
41:00
this is it.
41:01
Unknown: What did the Biden
administration just can't come
41:03
out with a report on solar
radiation modification? What
41:08
three areas of study did they
say they want to focus on?
41:13
Stratospheric Aerosol injection,
may call it solar radiation
41:16
modification, and cirrus cloud
theny. So what you have here is
41:21
a grand conspiracy between the
scientists who are trying to, as
41:26
they would put it, mitigate
global warming impacts from
41:30
aviation. But in reality, what
they're doing is they're turning
41:34
what's been 60 to 80 years worth
of pollution into an active
41:39
geoengineering program.
41:42
Adam Curry: I think it makes
total sense. They've always been
41:46
doing this. And we always knew
that one day they'll come I was
41:51
oh, no, we've got to do this
aerosol Bill Gates. Hello, Bill
41:53
Gates. We got to this aerosol
stuff because it's for climate
41:56
change. Well, they've been doing
it all along.
41:59
John C Dvorak: Well, when I was
a kid, they were always seeding
42:03
the clouds in California
constantly Sure. Seeding Yeah,
42:06
that's one thing what else still
claim it's still modification?
42:10
Yes, yes. But
42:11
Adam Curry: this is people had
been noticing they've been
42:13
noticing the criss crosses in
the sky. And here's your answer.
42:18
Your This is the time remember
next gen, I was all over next
42:21
gen because that was going to be
a whole bunch of things. And
42:24
while I was looking at the pilot
was airplanes and how they were
42:28
going to decrease separation
with a really with the under the
42:32
hood as they were changing the
fuel, so that we have more of
42:37
these clouds that spread out and
is basically ruining our days.
42:42
It's it ruins
42:44
John C Dvorak: you go in there,
but okay, ruins your day.
42:49
Adam Curry: You know, nice blue
skies. Oh, no, we can't have
42:53
that. These people are crazy.
42:57
John C Dvorak: Well, that's for
sure.
42:58
Adam Curry: I ruining our blue
skies. Okay, one more climate
43:04
change clip, then we can move
away from that. This is the
43:07
farmers are protesting once
again, they're in Europe.
43:11
They're in the year, a year now
to control in Europe. They're
43:13
mad and they're going to
Brussels. They're throwing poop
43:16
everywhere. They're starting
fires. But just so you know, the
43:22
people that they are looking to
the politicians they're looking
43:25
to, to solve their issues to
help them reduce these
43:30
ridiculous climate change
regulations. There are let me
43:34
see what what political bent Do
you think they have? Could it be
43:40
Oh, tell me far right. Yeah,
probably count the number of
43:45
times.
43:47
Unknown: For the third time in a
few weeks, firecrackers and
43:50
smoke dark in the sky in
Brussels EU court. The
43:53
concessions given to them by the
EU so far have not been enough
43:57
for these farmers, particularly
the youngest among young people
44:02
have a lot of expenses, so are
most in need of fair income. For
44:06
the moment. This anger could
push these young people to move
44:11
away from the traditional vote
of the agricultural. It's
44:14
clear that it was more center
right or even right wing. Here,
44:19
all the cards are reshuffled,
and we don't know who the
44:21
farmers will turn to,
44:23
especially since for several
months in the European
44:26
Parliament, far right parties
have been moving into
44:28
traditional territory of the
array by casting themselves as
44:31
the spokespeople for farmers the
embrace of state interventionism
44:36
has been an ideological
evolution for certain far right
44:39
groups
44:42
can work very clearly in the
80s, we had far right groups,
44:45
typically the National Front in
France, which were more of a
44:47
neoliberal trend, but they have
evolved their discourse instead
44:51
of elements because it's an
opportunity to capitalize on
44:54
societal needs and perhaps
further broaden their electoral
44:57
base.
44:58
The far right other target As
the environmental measures of
45:01
the European Green Deal, which
remain at the heart of the
45:04
debate, despite already being
significantly watered down
45:07
recently
45:08
Adam Curry: by the EU, there you
go. What do we count? Yeah, far
45:11
John C Dvorak: right.
45:11
Adam Curry: Far Right. The far
right, whatever that means. I
45:14
think they said farm right. Was
farm right? Yeah. Well, they
45:20
don't you know, if you are
protesting and you're a farmer,
45:24
you're basically a Nazi.
45:27
John C Dvorak: That's yeah, that
makes nothing but sense. That's
45:28
Adam Curry: the whole idea.
Well, yeah, you what? Oh, no,
45:32
no, you're part of the far
right.
45:35
John C Dvorak: Not right. Not
conservative, although
45:38
Adam Curry: that bastion of
freedom. They're in Berkeley,
45:41
right where you are, you know,
the ones that don't care about
45:45
the rest of the country. Right.
Yeah. Are repealing repealing
45:51
its controversial ban on natural
gas appliances?
45:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
couldn't. There was a little
45:56
old. Yeah, nobody was buying
into this one. Yeah,
45:59
Adam Curry: but New York is
still all in there yet. He is no
46:02
more pizza ovens. We actually
learned them into the idea. No
46:07
more monsters. It's crazy. The
UK though the Oxfordshire city
46:13
county council approved plans
this week to lock residents into
46:18
one of six zones to save the
planet from global warning
46:21
warming. Yep, this is the 15
Minute neighborhood, instead of
46:27
saying neighborhood under the
new scheme of residents wants to
46:30
leave their zone.
46:32
John C Dvorak: I love that.
Yeah. Well, you have to get a
46:34
visa.
46:36
Adam Curry: Citizen. If you want
to leave your zone, they'll need
46:39
permission. Yes, there it is.
There's your visa from the
46:41
council. And they will decide
who was worthy of freedom. I
46:45
think this is written with some
slant here. Under the new
46:49
scheme, residents will be
allowed to leave their zone a
46:51
maximum of 100 days per year. So
you have a there's your budget.
46:57
There's your climate budget 100
days a year, don't try to buy
47:01
anything outside of the zone.
Because they'll know
47:04
John C Dvorak: you go Amazon
know Amazon's behind it, you
47:08
know that right? But
47:09
Adam Curry: if you go to Well,
I'm sure they helping you. But
47:12
if you go to another zone and
get something to eat with your
47:15
cashless society, they'll know
that every resident has to
47:20
register their car. And then of
course, their cars will be
47:24
tracked via cameras around the
city. It's all coming. It's all
47:29
coming. It's so amazing. Between
that and four years of Trump, we
47:34
have to stop after you know, in
was it,
47:39
John C Dvorak: the show was 2028
is the end of no agenda
47:44
Adam Curry: just rise, the end
of the show just has to end we
47:46
can't handle it anymore. We
don't have the bandwidth for it.
47:50
And then, of course, with war in
Ukraine, with with the terror
47:58
attacks in Moscow, which now I
think we're Putin says we're
48:03
both right. It was Ukraine, with
the US in the UK. So it wasn't
48:09
just Ukraine. It was Ukraine
with the US in the UK, which by
48:12
the way, a lot of people have
deconstructed Victoria Newlands
48:17
comments at the end of February
in in Ukraine in Kyiv. embsay
48:25
Oh, yeah. And she was already
telegraphing it, which I thought
48:27
was about the Taurus missiles,
which Germany didn't give. But
48:31
here's that 38 second clip
again, where she talks about
48:34
some mighty big surprise
surprises,
48:36
Unknown: I have to say that I
leave tonight, more encouraged
48:42
about the unity and the results
about 2024 and its absolute
48:50
strategic importance for
Ukraine. I also leave more
48:56
confident that even as Ukraine
strengthens its defenses. Mr.
49:04
Putin is going to get some nice
surprises on the battlefield,
49:09
and that Ukraine will make some
very strong success as you see,
49:14
Adam Curry: that's where I
disagree with the
49:15
deconstructionist she says on
the battlefield.
49:19
John C Dvorak: Yes, I agree. I
agree with you. So I
49:21
Adam Curry: don't think I don't
think that was any telegraphing
49:24
by any means. And there's some
pretty some very lengthy
49:28
deconstructions of it.
49:31
John C Dvorak: But whatever
we'll take a concert hall
49:35
outside of Moscow is quite on
the battle the
49:38
Adam Curry: battlefield and now
Bo now ISIS ks every all ISIS K
49:42
they're threatening France
they're going to the threatening
49:44
the Olympics, so it's always
fun. It's always fun to to bring
49:49
bring back ISIS K.
49:53
John C Dvorak: But anyway, Mrs.
K is right. ISIS k is not really
49:56
anything to be brought back.
ISIS case stems from One
50:00
specific Province in Afghanistan
starts with a que ya Corazon
50:05
it's just a bunch of disillusion
Taliban guys the
50:09
Adam Curry: whole thing is
ridiculous it is it is
50:13
ridiculous it's ridiculous but
you know it makes everybody
50:17
worried and I read the shake
everybody up and but that
50:20
doesn't matter at all because
all anybody can talk about is
50:24
did he?
50:25
John C Dvorak: Did he did he did
did he clips and
50:28
Adam Curry: and I got there you
are right on cue to disappoint
50:31
me with a whole bunch of detail.
Yeah, of
50:32
John C Dvorak: course because I
unlike you, yes, you deal with
50:36
some popular storylines that you
reject out of hand. Wait, now
50:40
Adam Curry: hold on a second. I
have not rejected anything out
50:44
of hand. The I have said that
what is happening here is
50:50
they're washing the cup on the
outside. The inside is where all
50:53
the wickedness resides. This is
did he is just a cover for the
50:59
true wickedness. That's what I
said. Okay, what's
51:03
John C Dvorak: the true root
wickedness?
51:04
Adam Curry: Oh my god, the
lesbian witches who perform
51:12
witchcraft every single day in
front of our kids. Taylor Swift
51:18
Madonna. Rihanna,
51:21
John C Dvorak: was all in the
music industry, which is kind of
51:23
what he's brought up by this
Diddy thing. I lived with Sean
51:26
Puffy Combs for a year.
51:27
Unknown: That's the crazy thing
that that was Ellie Reed's idea
51:30
right? It's
51:30
Adam Curry: this is what you
want me to play? No, but
51:32
John C Dvorak: this is good.
This is from 2016 Asha This is
51:35
Asher. This is Asher complaining
about you know when he was a kid
51:39
he was taken it's always by the
way they also don't have all
51:42
these clips. But Bieber I guess
was was taken in. Yes, by Diddy
51:47
to this camp by the
51:48
Adam Curry: way. It's it's like
not a secret within the music
51:51
business. That Diddy is gay.
This is like oh,
51:54
John C Dvorak: well in fact, I
don't have that clip either. I
51:56
can just good. One of the guys
one of the guys that one of the
52:01
guys who's doing the mate one of
the main complainers call it and
52:04
he uses the term virgin whole
year kind of got which kind of I
52:10
don't know how they got it on
Fox but they did. Williams he I
52:15
think it was who it was. Oh cat.
Well, he says that did he wants
52:18
to do everyone's you know and he
goes on about this. He said you
52:21
just have to say no. Yeah,
that's Katt Williams. And you
52:24
just have to say no, and you
know you back up. But yes, it
52:28
seems as Joe in general.
52:30
Adam Curry: If did he even
whispers the words virgin and
52:33
hold to you? You need to say no,
I agree. This is very sound
52:37
advice. very sound advice.
52:39
John C Dvorak: But yeah, you can
let's play a short clip. I lived
52:42
with Sean Puffy Combs for
52:44
Unknown: a year. That's the
crazy thing that that was la
52:46
Reed's idea, right? We're
sending yo yo to say the whole
52:49
puffy flavor campaign with 13.
What we went
52:52
John C Dvorak: there to see the
lifestyle right. And I saw it.
52:55
But I don't know if I could
indulge and understand what I
52:58
was even looking at. It was it
was pretty wild. So nobody tried
53:01
to you know, some woman didn't
come alive. Okay.
53:07
Unknown: What I did say is that
there were very curious things
53:09
taking place. And I didn't
necessarily understand
53:12
Would you ever send your kid to
puffy camp?
53:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, so it was
actually just so you understand
53:19
the the Genesis that puffy took
Usher on under his wing and
53:23
Usher was the one who quote
unquote, discovered Bieber, and
53:28
then he sent Bieber off to be
with with Diddy for two weeks.
53:36
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
sorted. Well,
53:38
Adam Curry: yes. Hello. Oh, my,
there's gambling going on in the
53:42
music business. What you don't
hear very much of is Clive
53:45
Davis. He's the one who
discovered Diddy if we go all
53:49
the way up the chain. And by the
way, if you notice, Diddy is now
53:52
a rapper. What happened to music
industry executive, which is
53:56
what he really is, because he
runs all these labels and sub
54:00
labels. And then of course,
y'all curry you're not doing the
54:06
research. This is Epstein. Okay,
because yes. Oh, they're
54:13
blackmailing everybody. I still
need to see one videotape from
54:17
Epstein.
54:18
John C Dvorak: Yes. Why they
would show us anything. Where's
54:21
Adam Curry: the Hillary Clinton
video that that four cops
54:24
committed suicide over? Where's
that?
54:29
John C Dvorak: You think they
would get leaked somehow? You'd
54:32
think? Well, the clips I have
are if I didn't take the
54:36
mainstream media. I took Jesse
Walters. That's not mainstream
54:39
Adam Curry: media. Well, it is
but it's it's more mainstream
54:43
than most. Well,
54:45
John C Dvorak: the reason I say
it's not is because it's like
54:49
watching a hysterical old lady.
Okay, Jesse Walters.
54:55
Adam Curry: By the way. This is
its waters, not Walter's wallet
54:58
John C Dvorak: Walker's water US
waters Jessie waters is just
55:03
short of holding clutching his
pearls booklet you know the way
55:07
you get to the top of your
blouse and you hold it tight
55:10
against your neck. Is he says
55:14
Adam Curry: he sounds like 99%
of all podcasts and rumble and
55:19
YouTube videos. That's yeah,
that's and that's that's what
55:23
everybody's does that well, your
algo brought up for you John
55:26
Diddy.
55:28
John C Dvorak: No. Oh, okay. No,
I was watching Jesse. Will Will
55:33
Oscar show rock
55:34
Adam Curry: rock Jesse Walker's.
Alright, let's get into it.
55:36
Shockwaves
55:37
Unknown: reverberating through
the music industry after federal
55:40
agents raided the LA and Miami
homes of billionaire Hip Hop
55:44
mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Homeland
Security conducted the armed
55:48
raid and an alleged sex
trafficking operation TMZ leader
55:52
capturing Diddy pacing around a
private Miami airstrip did he
55:57
wasn't arrested but his phones
were seized. And there's
56:00
speculation tonight that he's
fled the country we can't
56:03
confirm it. Just breaking
tonight, though did his
56:06
attorneys putting out a
statement saying quote there is
56:09
no excuse for the excessive show
of force and hostility exhibited
56:13
by authorities. This
unprecedented ambush paired with
56:17
advanced coordinated media
presence leads to a premature
56:21
rush to judgment of Mr. Combs
and is nothing more than a witch
56:25
hunts. The raid was triggered by
a litany of lawsuits including
56:31
from his own ex alleging abuse,
rape and sex trafficking did he
56:35
settled that one but then, two
months ago, his former producer
56:41
Rodney little rod Jones filed an
explosive lawsuit containing
56:46
disturbingly graphic and
disgusting details that not only
56:50
implicate Diddy, but aim
straight at the heart of the
56:53
music industry.
56:54
Adam Curry: So in all of this
interesting that Diddy has not
56:59
been arrested his kids weird his
kids are living at these houses.
57:05
And let me tell you, you want to
see some messed up kids look at
57:08
kids of billionaires. And but
he's right. Did he is putting
57:15
out a statement. He's right this
is a witch hunt the witches of
57:17
the music industry Taylor Swift.
57:21
John C Dvorak: Oh, beyond what
he did there.
57:24
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. These
these are the evil ones. They're
57:28
the satanists and Sam Smith.
We'll just call him a woman for
57:31
argument's sake. Who? Sam Smith.
Don't you remember he he was on
57:36
the Grammys in the devil suit in
the cage brought to you by
57:40
Pfizer.
57:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, that guy?
57:41
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. These it
is a witch hunt. In that regard.
57:46
He's correct. It's a witch hunt.
The Witches are out to get them
57:49
to cover up their own evil
doings.
57:53
John C Dvorak: I like your
thesis
57:54
Adam Curry: Thank you clip to
57:55
Unknown: an elaborate
racketeering, blackmail and sex
57:58
trafficking scheme that is
lawyers compared to Jeffrey
58:02
Epstein's. Now, for over a year,
little rod had unfettered access
58:06
to Diddy's world, his homes, his
planes and his parties, where he
58:11
claims he witnessed mountains of
narcotics, illegal firearms,
58:15
police drinks, workers, and
underage boys and girls. The
58:21
producer claims he was groped by
Diddy, groomed and forced into
58:25
humiliating sexual performances.
Did his chief of staff Christina
58:30
quorum is said to have been the
galane Maxwell to Sean Combs Oh,
58:34
there it is. Allegedly ordering
her assistants to keep Mr. Combs
58:38
high of gummies pills cocaine
and ecstasy and maintaining a
58:42
steady stream of sex workers for
her boss. Now some of the women
58:47
brought into Diddy's orbit were
under the age of 16. That's
58:51
according to the complaint. The
lawsuit claims he required the
58:55
sex workers and underage girls
to sign NDAs prior to entering
59:00
as parties and prior to being
drugged and sex trafficked at
59:03
these parties.
59:04
Adam Curry: I don't believe this
first second sign this NDA Oh
59:07
sure. Both now. Okay. So so far,
except for the underage part. We
59:13
have drugs and hookers hmm
sounds like DC to me. I mean,
59:21
okay. This is all just salacious
gossip and and it's so
59:27
uninteresting in the world that
we live in. When Taylor Swift is
59:31
performing witchcraft onstage in
front of your seven your seven
59:35
year old. Oh, Taylor. The kids
are talking in tongues.
59:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah,
that's true. That is a short
59:45
clips. Here's the last one
59:46
Unknown: that did he call these
his freakout parties and attend
59:49
There you go free celebrities,
politicians, athletes,
59:53
international dignitaries like
British royalty Prince Harry,
59:57
and music label executives.
little rod clubs some of the
1:00:01
biggest names in the recording
industry sponsored these parties
1:00:05
with sex workers, drugs and
underage girls, the CEO of
1:00:09
Universal Music, Lucien Grange
is named as a defendant. So as
1:00:15
the former CEO of Motown Records
Ethiopia, Hubbard Merriam, and
1:00:20
others know rod says hidden
cameras were in every room of
1:00:24
Diddy's homes. Little rod
believes that Mr. Combs
1:00:28
possesses compromising footage
of every person that is attended
1:00:32
his free golf parties, and his
house parties, salacious tapes
1:00:36
of Hollywood's biggest names,
including record CEOs and
1:00:40
politicians doing drugs, and
cavorting with prostitutes and
1:00:44
minors. The complaint argues
that these free golf parties
1:00:47
were a business model, young and
up and coming talent attended
1:00:51
and were promised career
opportunities and access to
1:00:55
music executives. They were then
plied with drugs and alcohol
1:00:59
filmed somewhere blackmailed.
There was a quid pro quo,
1:01:03
according to the complaint. Oh,
1:01:05
Adam Curry: wow. How surprising.
Well, I
1:01:08
John C Dvorak: have a question
for you. Yeah. How does this
1:01:11
sound any different than a Hugh
Hefner, Playboy Mansion party?
1:01:14
Adam Curry: Not none at all. Not
at all. Except that there's a
1:01:18
promise of a career. Well, I
guess you know, you hey, I can
1:01:21
get to Hugh I can get you in
Playboy. Maybe that was the
1:01:23
promise. Yeah, you're completely
right. It's ridiculous. The
1:01:28
whole thing is a big
distraction.
1:01:31
John C Dvorak: A lot of don't
know. Oh, yes, it's
1:01:33
Adam Curry: of course it is.
Have you seen what's going on in
1:01:36
the world? Airplanes are falling
out of the sky
1:01:42
John C Dvorak: by airplane fell
out of the sky. Well,
1:01:44
Adam Curry: the 737 max but that
you know, this piece is falling.
1:01:47
The Boeing is an unreliable
product.
1:01:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's your story. Yes. How did
1:01:53
that happen? We've talked about
on the show. We know how it
1:01:55
happened. Well, the GE guy in
charge anything that is what
1:02:00
you're gonna get. Hello. And he
quit. He's resigning. Yeah,
1:02:03
yeah. And a year. Well,
1:02:05
Adam Curry: they've got to find
a successor but there's a new
1:02:08
twist a new twist in what's a
new chapter of Alaska flight
1:02:11
12am Sorry, a new chapter, not a
twist a chapter in what's a new
1:02:15
chapter
1:02:15
Unknown: of Alaska flight 1282
where the door plug on a Boeing
1:02:19
plane blew out while in the air.
The FBI Seattle division has
1:02:22
sent those passengers a letter
it says we have identified you
1:02:25
as the possible victim of a
crime isn't unusual for a letter
1:02:29
like this to be sent out.
1:02:31
This is extraordinary for the
DOJ and the FBI to be issuing
1:02:35
this letter
1:02:36
attorney Mark Lindquist said the
27 passengers he represents in a
1:02:39
lawsuit against Boeing and
Alaska Airlines received the
1:02:42
notice
1:02:43
this letter is a result of
cumulative errors by Boeing
1:02:46
cumulative negligence. The DOJ
has just lost their patience it
1:02:50
seems while
1:02:51
the embattled company is not
named in the FBIs letter
1:02:54
linquist
1:02:55
says everyone's drawing the
inference that the target is
1:02:58
Boeing,
1:02:59
Alaska Airlines tells como in an
event like this, it's normal for
1:03:02
the DOJ to be conducting an
investigation. We are fully
1:03:05
cooperating and do not believe
we are a target of the
1:03:08
investigation. Boeing simply
said they weren't commenting
1:03:11
linquist says the DOJ is working
to see if there's grounds for
1:03:15
new criminal charges,
1:03:16
Dora replied blew out 16,000
feet. There were a variety of
1:03:21
injuries had this happened at
cruising altitude, you likely
1:03:26
would have seen people sucked
out of that hole. The pilot may
1:03:29
have gone unconscious due to
hypoxia. The plane may have gone
1:03:33
down and
1:03:33
in this case, the attorney
welcomes a federal
1:03:36
investigation. We
1:03:37
want accountability. We want
answers. And we want safer
1:03:41
planes from Boeing. Yeah,
1:03:43
Adam Curry: I agree with that.
We definitely want safer planes
1:03:47
from Boeing boots on the ground,
of course. Word is spirit
1:03:53
Aerosystems these are the guys
who actually were split off from
1:03:56
Boeing I think will be Boeing
again by June 2025. The
1:04:02
transition will start this June
will take one year to complete
1:04:06
of course very complicated
because after Boeing sold this
1:04:09
Wichita division to what became
spirit almost 20 years ago,
1:04:12
they've taken in work from
Airbus Sikorsky Bell and others
1:04:16
something Boeing will take it
all and spirit will just cease
1:04:19
to exist other think others
think Boeing will buy the
1:04:22
commercial part and the defense
part will remain autonomous. We
1:04:27
should have a better idea in a
few weeks boots on the ground in
1:04:29
the industry close to the fire.
So that looks more and more like
1:04:37
military industrial complex work
is involved here too.
1:04:41
John C Dvorak: Obviously, yeah.
You don't want to change the
1:04:47
direction of the cash cow.
1:04:49
Adam Curry: Well, no, I never
thought that I would that I
1:04:52
would be pro Airbus. Because you
know, they're basically plastic.
1:04:57
I like sheet metal and rivets
but not these These guys are no
1:05:02
good.
1:05:03
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
clips on this but I want to make
1:05:05
some commentary on Bobby The Op
1:05:07
Adam Curry: I have a clip to set
us up.
1:05:10
John C Dvorak: Good. Here we go.
Robert
1:05:11
Unknown: F. Kennedy Jr. has
announced a relatively unknown
1:05:13
political new cover as his
running mate in the race for the
1:05:16
White House. Silicon Valley
lawyer Nicole Shanahan will join
1:05:19
his independent ticket as they
seek to win over voters unhappy
1:05:23
with a Biden Trump rematch
Shanahan is the ex wife of
1:05:26
Google's co founder and says she
shares Kennedy's concerns about
1:05:30
the environment and vaccines.
1:05:33
There is only one candidate I
have met for president who takes
1:05:37
the chronic disease epidemic
seriously. It is Robert F.
1:05:40
Kennedy Jr. and I will be his
ally in making our nation
1:05:45
healthy again.
1:05:47
Shanahan has deep pockets she
donated $4 million to a Super
1:05:51
PAC that bought a Superbowl
commercial.
1:05:54
Adam Curry: I'd have some
thoughts too, but you go ahead.
1:05:58
John C Dvorak: So this woman is
the one behind that Kennedy ad
1:06:01
that ran on the Super Bowl. That
was a top throwback to the 60s.
1:06:04
Of course, she wasn't born until
84 or something like that she
1:06:07
was doesn't even know who
Kennedy was. But okay, so she's
1:06:11
somehow responsible for that ad.
She was brought in when Kennedy
1:06:19
first came in as an independent
and and he looks like he's
1:06:22
polling for about 12% As we
speak, he gets on all the
1:06:25
ballots, which she can assure
because she's got a lot of
1:06:27
money. That's it was the first
sir good clip the
1:06:30
Adam Curry: Sergey Brin, settle
1:06:32
John C Dvorak: he was married to
strike a rent for a little while
1:06:34
she met him at a yoga camp and
got pregnant had a kid here they
1:06:40
got to did you
1:06:41
Adam Curry: hear that?
Supposedly the reason they split
1:06:43
up is that she banged Ilan.
1:06:46
John C Dvorak: It was in the
newsletter. I thought you read
1:06:48
it. I'm just
1:06:49
Adam Curry: not everyone who
listens to the show reads the
1:06:52
newsletter.
1:06:54
John C Dvorak: Anyway, the
newsletter has a very nice clip.
1:06:56
Adam Curry: By the way, no one
saw the newsletter. It went to
1:06:58
junk a lot of it Yeah, no, it
hurt everything hurt donations.
1:07:02
Everything it did
1:07:03
John C Dvorak: it did it where
you got screwed. And it had I
1:07:06
think it had to do with the
title using the word killer.
1:07:09
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So
it's on you. Yeah,
1:07:15
John C Dvorak: yeah, totally.
Well, it's not really because
1:07:18
it's stupid.
1:07:19
Adam Curry: Yes, Monty 83.
There's a newsletter. Stupid
1:07:23
trolls.
1:07:25
Unknown: So
1:07:25
Adam Curry: woman is no good.
She's just let me finish I'm
1:07:29
sorry.
1:07:30
John C Dvorak: So she went on
the suppose he had an affair
1:07:33
with the language they both deny
but he got divorced from her.
1:07:35
Anyway, she I think she's kind
of she is beyond the left wing
1:07:39
crackpot type because she just
recently as mentioned again, in
1:07:43
the newsletter, we discussed
that she just recently after
1:07:47
getting divorced, she's had a
druidic ceremony. So she's a
1:07:52
druid. And I should mention that
when I went to InfoWorld back in
1:07:56
the 80s it when it was initially
an intelligent machine journal,
1:08:01
it was run by Druids. Really?
Yeah. And Maggie cannon told me
1:08:07
about it because she says she
goes in there they go into some
1:08:09
Friday night or something. She
goes back into the office for
1:08:12
some reason. There's everyone's
wearing these horns on their
1:08:15
heads and doing some ceremony
1:08:17
Adam Curry: at InfoWorld.
1:08:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
1:08:21
Adam Curry: This is some Silicon
Valley lore I have not heard
1:08:23
yet.
1:08:24
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And so
there's a lot of druidic
1:08:27
bullcrap in Silicon Valley and
she's a part of it, but
1:08:32
Adam Curry: they didn't they
meet at Burning Man or her
1:08:34
current guy who works here he
1:08:36
John C Dvorak: met at Burning
Man, I want to read a little
1:08:37
clip from Britannic about
druids, the nobody knows
1:08:40
anything about him. So it's all
all supposition and some kind of
1:08:46
just say, I've met a druid. i
Okay, tell us what you know. I
1:08:50
met a druid in
1:08:50
Adam Curry: Amsterdam, because
we got DMT from a druid that he
1:08:56
got it. That was Yeah, I did.
DMT twice in my life is not 20
1:08:59
years ago. By the way. I enjoyed
the experience don't have to do
1:09:04
it again. But I enjoyed the
experience. And a druid comes
1:09:09
over to the house. And it's
because of pure DMT is from tree
1:09:13
bark. It's not synthesized.
1:09:15
John C Dvorak: How do you know
he's a druid? Dude,
1:09:18
Adam Curry: he had the horns on
his head and everything. No,
1:09:21
yes. Yeah, you had the lots of
you know, like, what's your name
1:09:26
from Stevie Nicks type flowing
robes and stuff. It was great.
1:09:31
Hey, man, you got some got some
tree bark for me. So they're,
1:09:35
they're a weird bunch. And when
I saw the picture in the
1:09:38
newsletter of her having her
hand holding ceremony with the
1:09:44
guy who works at lightning labs
of all places, Bitcoin one no.
1:09:49
Well, lightning Labs is very
specific. Lightning labs they
1:09:54
they built the first they built
lightning node which is for the
1:09:57
Lightning Network. And those
guys I think have lost their way
1:10:01
to be quite honest. They're
there. They're a little nuts
1:10:04
about money. Yeah, but she was
wearing like a druidic tree
1:10:10
outfit with leaves and stuff
barefoot.
1:10:14
John C Dvorak: So here's from
Britannica other Roman right.
1:10:17
Nobody knew anything about the
jurists, and so they had to go
1:10:19
with Roman writings from Pliny
the Elder and others. Other
1:10:23
Roman writers also fixated on
druids love of blood and gore.
1:10:27
Pliny the Elder wrote of the
druids appreciation for both
1:10:30
mistletoe and human sacrifice.
To murder a man was to do the
1:10:35
act of highest devoutness he
wrote, and to eat his flesh was
1:10:39
to secure the highest blessings
of health. Tacitus, the great
1:10:43
historian even described a
battle in Wales in which drew is
1:10:47
covered their altars with the
blood of captives and consulted
1:10:51
their deities through human
entrails. So they held up to you
1:10:54
know, somebody's in intestines,
who knows? Yeah. According to
1:11:00
the writers, the pagan
practitioners presented an
1:11:04
existential threat to the
Romans. So my thinking is that
1:11:08
this woman was introduced to the
campaign because Bobby, the OP
1:11:11
came in, and he's polling about
12%. And initially, he was
1:11:15
taking from both Biden and
Trump, but by bringing a drew it
1:11:20
in I pagan woman, who is
obviously a kind of a gold
1:11:25
digger, to say the least, she
comes in adds to the ticket,
1:11:29
she's, you know, charming
enough. And she will kill any
1:11:34
chance that a Trump voter is
going to cross over and vote for
1:11:37
Bobby DAPP. That's the ends that
is just he's only going to suck
1:11:41
away the votes from Biden. And
that's the reason she's there.
1:11:45
That's
1:11:46
Adam Curry: the OP right there.
I completely concur. word around
1:11:50
town. Because I know many people
who are looking at Bobby the
1:11:54
opp, oh, no, oh, no, no way.
Because he or she sent money to
1:12:00
the Soros sisters da A's. She's
a lib tard I'm just repeating
1:12:07
what people around town say is
completely and utterly
1:12:11
destroyed. Any chance of any
wavering Trump voter selecting
1:12:17
Bobby this way? And this? I
mean, first of all, it's just
1:12:21
pathetic. I mean, I understand
that he had to get on the
1:12:23
ballot, and he needs at like 15
or $20 million quick. So that
1:12:30
was that was the choice is like,
Well, look, you got a lot of
1:12:32
money. I'll make you my VP. And
yes, I have to agree. I don't
1:12:38
like calling people. Gold Digger
easily, but she sure seems to
1:12:42
have all the traits of one.
1:12:47
John C Dvorak: So so that was
the idea. And now we've got
1:12:51
Trump as a shoo in. Yeah.
Because they're just gonna
1:12:54
completely bother the app is
just an insurance policy to make
1:12:58
sure that Trump gets in here. So
somebody somewhere some guys
1:13:02
pulling strings are intent on
getting Trump elected. And I'd
1:13:06
say this is the time to do the
betting. If you're I have in
1:13:09
around Vegas.
1:13:11
Adam Curry: Get in now while
stocks last. So I watched the
1:13:15
majority of the fact Dell big
tree was there. Because a lot of
1:13:21
people like and I know even
though Trump is saying, Oh, it's
1:13:25
horrible, you know, you can vote
for him. He's no good, which I
1:13:29
think is part of the op. It's
just it's just materializing. It
1:13:32
still would not surprise me. If
if Kennedy if Trump wins, if
1:13:39
Kennedy is not brought in for
some cabinet post. Yeah, it
1:13:44
could be that would not surprise
me. Because all the people there
1:13:48
who were speaking and speaking
up to the up to Kennedy coming
1:13:53
out and then him announcing
what's her name?
1:13:59
John C Dvorak: What's her name?
Shanahan Shana
1:14:02
Adam Curry: chin. Shan Shan
1:14:06
John C Dvorak: Shan That's your
new
1:14:07
Adam Curry: Nana Chan. That's
her new name. Yeah, so let's
1:14:10
make it a little racist while
we're at it. Shana Chan. Yeah.
1:14:14
We're people who had some very
interesting things to say. And I
1:14:20
pulled one clip, because I was
watching in real time. Cali
1:14:24
means this is the true med guy.
And I just love this. So who can
1:14:28
Cali means is his name Le Cali
le meme means mea NS Cali means
1:14:35
so means okay. Yes. And he runs
through med which is a now
1:14:43
natural path type outfit. The
anti farm by an anti Big Pharma
1:14:49
but he has a history with Big
Pharma and he talked about it
1:14:52
working for the food and pharma
industries early in my career.
1:14:56
My job was to funnel money to
institutions that America
1:15:00
constrast we funneled money to
civil rights groups. In return,
1:15:04
the NAACP said it was imperative
to keep Coca Cola on food
1:15:08
stamps. They actually said it
was racist to take Ultra
1:15:12
processed food and soda off of
food stamps. And today soda is
1:15:16
the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel
1:15:19
money to medical organizations,
the American Diabetes. Oh yeah.
1:15:23
Oh, you've never heard this.
1:15:25
John C Dvorak: No, I never heard
that soda was the number one
1:15:27
thing bought by food stamps. Oh,
yeah,
1:15:30
Adam Curry: of course. Well,
yeah, you can. You can use them
1:15:34
at fast food. Remember, very
important using your snap card
1:15:38
and fast food. They actually
said it was racist, to take
1:15:42
Ultra processed food and soda
off of food stamps. Today, soda
1:15:46
is the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel
1:15:49
money to medical organizations.
The American Diabetes
1:15:53
Association of all groups took
millions of dollars from Coca
1:15:56
Cola, and they said small cans
of the drink was a good choice
1:15:59
for diabetics. The American
Academy of Pediatrics 80% of
1:16:05
their funding comes from the
pharmaceutical industry. We
1:16:08
funneled money to researchers, I
was shocked as a junior employee
1:16:12
to be communicating with top
professors at Harvard and Tufts
1:16:16
nutrition school. I found that
11 times more funding comes from
1:16:21
the food industry for nutrition
research than the NIH. I found
1:16:25
out that more than 50% of the
Harvard Med school budget
1:16:28
touches farm in some way. We
funneled money to the media,
1:16:32
pharma funds over 50% of all TV
news funding and I realized that
1:16:37
wasn't influenced consumers.
That was influenced the the news
1:16:41
itself. And he went on and on
and on and on. And of course he
1:16:45
went into ozempic and have
that's going to bankrupt
1:16:48
Medicare. Even Bernie Sanders is
now coming out saying, Oh, we've
1:16:52
got to get cheaper. ozempic
Okay, thanks, Bernie. Yeah,
1:16:55
that'll do it cheaper ozempic
Don't don't mind you know, the
1:16:59
fact that you're going to put
people on medication kids on
1:17:02
medication for the rest of their
life. But let's get back to the
1:17:06
to the food stamps or the snap
cards. Because you can use them
1:17:11
at fast food and they have a new
addition which is just it's more
1:17:15
input for the ozempic to
1:17:17
Unknown: breakfast powerhouses
are teaming up three types of
1:17:20
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts are
reportedly go on sale at
1:17:23
McDonald's later this year. The
donuts will be available across
1:17:27
the country and McDonald's by
the end of 2026. After a phased
1:17:30
rollout the partnership could
increase the scope of Krispy
1:17:33
Kreme and today Krispy Kreme is
giving away a free doughnut
1:17:36
between five and 9pm. To
celebrate less,
1:17:40
they're putting that conveyor
belt inside of the McDonald's
1:17:43
rolling them off the hot
1:17:47
Adam Curry: hey, go media loves
it. But wait, there's more. We
1:17:50
need more sugary stuff, whether
it's high fructose corn syrup,
1:17:55
or sugar, aspartame or whatever
you want it to be. Yes.
1:17:59
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
what McDonald's thinks it's
1:18:01
doing. First Kosmos thing which
is the sugary drink operation
1:18:07
and it was all about and we've
played many a clip Yes. From
1:18:11
people going, Oh, it's so great.
And now Krispy Kreme a Donuts,
1:18:17
donuts, Chai at McDonald's or
not? McDonough. If
1:18:20
Adam Curry: you had if you had a
nation that has money from the
1:18:24
government in their hand and
their crack addicts, I'm pretty
1:18:29
sure if you were enterprising,
it'd be like Hey, Adam, I got an
1:18:32
idea. Let's stop this
podcasting. Nonsense. Let's
1:18:35
start a crack stand. So that's
all that sugar is, is crack it
1:18:42
may we have a nation addicted to
it. Boy oh boy. Oh no, but don't
1:18:45
worry, because you got the
ozempic now, and hey, hey, kids,
1:18:49
here's a good one for you. Let's
double down
1:18:52
Unknown: Dunkin ready to give
you a little buzz spiked to iced
1:18:56
coffees and teas are officially
available now in Chicago. The
1:19:00
coffee comes in four flavors
original caramel, mocha and
1:19:03
vanilla. And while the teas have
some unexpected flavors, they
1:19:07
include a strawberry dragon
fruit and a mango pineapple.
1:19:11
Drinks are not available in
Dunkin shops. Instead, they will
1:19:14
be at local grocery stores, of
course, Jenner and
1:19:17
the liquor store.
1:19:18
Why not?
1:19:19
Adam Curry: Why not? Do you
think there's gonna be any
1:19:21
raspberry in there, no
1:19:23
John C Dvorak: sugar. backup
your piece about just buying
1:19:27
everything left and right. I'm
not going to play any of the 20
1:19:30
Minute promotion that they did.
But I want to play the intro to
1:19:34
it because this adds right into
it. This is the UBI presentation
1:19:38
on NPR work
1:19:40
Unknown: on fighting poverty in
the USA pandemic government aid
1:19:43
made it clear that getting
people in need a little extra
1:19:46
money could help them in huge
ways.
1:19:49
And they spend the money in ways
that everyone does right on
1:19:53
those basics, going to the
grocery store, making sure the
1:19:56
rent is paid, paying the car
note those sorts of things.
1:20:00
Consider this universal basic
income one seemed like a radical
1:20:05
idea in the US before the
pandemic. But now many places in
1:20:09
the country are pushing to make
it a permanent part of the
1:20:12
social safety net.
1:20:15
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh, there was
a whole I missed that a whole
1:20:17
special on NPR about UBI. Yeah,
1:20:20
John C Dvorak: went on and on
with people talking about
1:20:23
literally just throwing the
money away. And that's okay.
1:20:26
Because that's, you know, that's
what people want to do. And they
1:20:29
got the money to do whatever
they want with it. And it's just
1:20:32
the damnedest thing ever heard.
Now,
1:20:34
Adam Curry: this is remember,
my, my, my take on the COVID
1:20:39
situation has always been
financial. It's always been
1:20:42
financial. And now we have it.
This is perfect. We've got
1:20:48
inflation, oh, I'm sorry. It's
transitory. We've got inflation
1:20:53
that is transitory. In fact,
let's talk about that for a
1:20:57
second
1:20:57
Unknown: this morning. $1 won't
go quite as far at Dollar Tree
1:21:01
these days. The company now says
it will increase its maximum
1:21:04
prices stores to $7. This year,
a $5. Cap was put in place last
1:21:09
summer. Family Dollar recently
announced it will close to 1000
1:21:13
stores 30 of which are Dollar
Tree stores. So
1:21:16
Adam Curry: they had a cap last
summer of $5. Now it's seven.
1:21:20
That's I
1:21:21
John C Dvorak: was a kid $1 Was
there used to be something
1:21:24
called the five and dime store.
1:21:27
Adam Curry: Yes, we had one
close just just last year here
1:21:30
in Fredericksburg. We had a five
and dime on Main Street and it
1:21:34
closed. But just think about it.
They had a cap of $5 at the
1:21:39
dollar store a year ago. Now
it's $7. Is that not somewhere
1:21:43
like a 30%? Increase? That's a
big big jump. Yes. That's your
1:21:47
inflation. Look at it. Look at
Tiktok all the kids are crying.
1:21:51
They can't afford rent. They
can't afford anything. I mean,
1:21:55
in addition to their iPhone, of
course and their fancy
1:21:57
John C Dvorak: car, they go
yeah, they can spend two grand
1:21:59
on an iPhone, that's fine.
1:22:01
Adam Curry: Well, that's on the
payment plan. You know, the it's
1:22:03
all finance. It's all finance
quote unquote. It's free. Yes.
1:22:07
All financed through AT and T T
Mobile Verizon. But if you
1:22:11
really look at the $7 trillion
that we created, 7 trillion was
1:22:17
created by the banking system.
This came up on a very brief
1:22:21
segment with Muhammad Al Iran
Aireon. He's an economist. He's
1:22:25
often on CNBC, and they talked
about the $7 trillion that we
1:22:30
printed, and what are we going
to do about it? Are we going to
1:22:33
catch up? Are we going to feed
or begin to, you know, we're
1:22:36
going to pay that off? Because
it's you know, it's debt when
1:22:39
China bought that a lot of
Chinese purchasing of our debt.
1:22:43
And here,
1:22:44
John C Dvorak: first of all, by
the way, I just want to make it
1:22:45
clear that the United States
Americans by our own, we are
1:22:50
stuck with the debt personally
stuck with the debt.
1:22:52
Adam Curry: Yes, our own
Treasury buy. We buy our own
1:22:54
debts called monetizing your
debt. We buy it ourselves
1:22:57
correct. And but what are we
going to do about it? Are we
1:23:02
going to pay it off? We're going
to fix it, we're going to figure
1:23:04
it out. No. But why
1:23:06
John C Dvorak: are we at 7
trillion? Why 7 trillion next
1:23:09
year?
1:23:09
Unknown: Why go to whether it's
to US or elsewhere? We watch it,
1:23:13
we you
1:23:14
never go back from
1:23:15
the crisis. We don't that's
1:23:18
the Fed's balance sheet is the
same thing. It is sad. And at
1:23:22
some point, we're going to pay
for this, we will pay for this.
1:23:24
We have
1:23:25
been saying this for so long,
that we're going to pay for it.
1:23:28
We're going to be talking to
Maya McGinnis a little later
1:23:30
about some of the issues
surrounding this, too. We've
1:23:33
been saying this for so long,
decades and decades. When does
1:23:37
it actually
1:23:38
so remember the old PIMCO
concept of the cleanest dirty
1:23:40
shirt? Okay, we live in a
relative world. So if we
1:23:44
misbehave and others misbehave
more, we don't get punished
1:23:48
because we've got the reserve
currency, and we are the place
1:23:52
where people outsource savings
to so as long as we remain the
1:23:55
cleanest dirty shirt, then we're
not going to be punished. If
1:23:58
others start being cleaner than
us, then then this will change.
1:24:03
Adam Curry: We have the cleanest
dirty shirts. Exactly.
1:24:07
John C Dvorak: That's a great
analogy. It's perfect.
1:24:10
Adam Curry: And this is why they
have to they must create a
1:24:13
central digital bank, current
central bank digital currency
1:24:17
they have to for all the UBI for
all of the newcomers who are
1:24:22
welcoming in who if we're
getting your work permit, don't
1:24:27
worry. Here's your card. Here's
your ID. Here's your UBI this
1:24:32
it's a foregone conclusion. And
just to add to that, the me see
1:24:41
where do I have it here? The UBI
part or the digital ID part is
1:24:49
really approaching very rapidly
and we're going to usher that in
1:24:53
for social media. I know you
don't agree with it and you say
1:24:56
it's crazy and yes, you'll be
able to get around it, but can
1:25:00
California already has SB 1228
large online platforms user
1:25:07
identity authentication, this
bill would require a large
1:25:10
online platform as defined to
seek to verify the name,
1:25:14
telephone number and email
address of an influential user
1:25:16
as defined by means chosen by
the large online platform, and
1:25:21
would require the platform to
seek to verify the identity of
1:25:24
highly influential users as
defined by asking to review the
1:25:28
highly influential users
government issued
1:25:32
identification. And this is
happening everywhere, including
1:25:36
Florida childhood
1:25:37
Unknown: has completely changed.
And the reason has changed, of
1:25:41
course is because of the
smartphone kids today, teenagers
1:25:44
today. According to the
research, they are more
1:25:46
sedentary, more solitary, more
anxious, more depressed, more
1:25:49
risk averse. Something has
changed, and it seems to be the
1:25:53
access to the phone. So now here
comes the state of Florida.
1:25:55
Yesterday, Ron DeSantis, has
signed the most restrictive
1:25:59
social media ban for teenagers
anywhere in the country, people
1:26:04
14 And under banned from social
media in the state of Florida
1:26:09
for 15 and 16 year olds will
need a parental consent.
1:26:13
DeSantis says this satisfied me
the way the bill was written. I
1:26:17
think it's a fair application of
the law and the Constitution.
1:26:20
There, of course, will be
lawsuits as there have been in
1:26:22
other states, the Republican
Speaker of the House there in
1:26:25
the state of Florida says we're
going to beat those lawsuits,
1:26:28
we're going to beat them and we
are never going to stop this is
1:26:32
a major major deal. But how do
you police this? Exactly?
1:26:35
Because my 10 year old will
register on Instagram or Tiktok
1:26:39
as though she's of a certain
age, and it's about I have to
1:26:43
take the phone away? Well,
1:26:44
it becomes a legal liability for
the companies. I mean, the you
1:26:47
know, Instagram knows me well
enough to know that I spend a
1:26:49
lot of things in my pants and I
get nothing but ads for spilled
1:26:51
things on pants, right that they
know their customer they know
1:26:54
when it's a 10 year old versus a
28 year old. But the point is,
1:26:58
past bands have struggled on
free speech grounds, right,
1:27:01
there's an access to information
that should be available even to
1:27:04
young people. What's unique
about the Florida law and the
1:27:07
way it's written, which will be
a legal test that we're going to
1:27:09
be talking about is it's not
about the information. It's
1:27:13
about the qualities of the app.
So the infinite scroll, the
1:27:17
addictive algorithm, the
information you can access on a
1:27:20
WW dot straight up computer.
Yeah,
1:27:23
Adam Curry: and it goes on and
on and on. Okay, I want to go
1:27:25
down this rabbit hole for a few
minutes. Because there's a lot
1:27:30
of people out there talking
about the about the apps being
1:27:35
and social media being very bad
for children. Here's the ABC
1:27:38
Good Morning America. Let me see
is this sits Yes, this is I
1:27:48
think they bring in Jonathan
Haidt here who just wrote a book
1:27:51
about this. This is a Good
Morning America about the
1:27:54
Florida social media ban. We
1:27:56
Unknown: turn now to a social
media show down in Florida Shona
1:27:59
Rhonda Santa signing a bill
banning children under 14 from
1:28:02
having their own social media
accounts. But it's expected to
1:28:05
face a number of legal
challenges and Ariel Russia
1:28:08
joins us now with more can
imagine a bumpy road ahead.
1:28:11
bumpy
1:28:12
road ahead. A lot of very strong
opinions on this one. If this
1:28:15
law holds Florida will have one
of the most restrictive social
1:28:18
media bans in the country. The
bill signed by Governor Ron
1:28:21
DeSantis won't take effect until
January 1, and is likely to face
1:28:25
major legal challenges. The new
measure bars social media
1:28:28
accounts for children under the
age of 14 and requires parental
1:28:31
consent for 15 and 16 year olds.
It also mandates that social
1:28:35
media platforms search for and
remove the profiles of kids who
1:28:39
don't meet the age requirement.
proponents have argued that
1:28:42
access to social media is
harmful to children's mental
1:28:45
health. It's not yet clear which
social media companies would be
1:28:48
impacted. But the trade group
net choice which represents
1:28:51
several major social media
giants slammed the move is
1:28:54
unconstitutional saying it
violates the First Amendment,
1:28:57
the equal protection clause of
the 14th amendment and federal
1:29:00
law Florida. It's not the first
state to enact this type of ban
1:29:04
Arkansas and Ohio have also
passed similar legislation,
1:29:06
Lindsey but both are tied up in
court since
1:29:09
Adam Curry: the phrase was used
by requests. Yeah, we got to
1:29:13
bring that back. You got
slammed, they slammed the
1:29:16
slammed him for this. So then
they bring on Jonathan Haidt, H
1:29:21
AI d t, he wrote the coddling of
the American mind, great book.
1:29:25
And now he's gone off the rails
as far as I'm concerned. He's
1:29:29
now he is now advocating for the
only way we can do this as
1:29:34
government ID the only way which
of course, is not the solution,
1:29:37
but it is what I predicted
1:29:39
Unknown: and a new book is
addressing this issue. It's
1:29:41
called the anxious anxious
generation, how the great
1:29:44
rewiring of childhood is causing
an epidemic of mental illness.
1:29:49
And author and social
psychologist Jonathan Haidt is
1:29:52
joining us now to talk about
1:29:53
Adam Curry: it. This is gonna be
interesting because all the
1:29:56
research that we even Zuckerberg
said it in the most recent I'm
1:30:00
hearing Oh, there's there's
absolutely no proof. There's no
1:30:03
proof that social media messes
your mental with your mental
1:30:06
health. There's no proof at all.
Why
1:30:09
Unknown: this book? Why now?
1:30:11
Because I'm a social
psychologist. And as I've been
1:30:14
digging into what's happening in
the social lives of kids, I've
1:30:18
graphed out all the data from
all these studies. And what we
1:30:21
see over and over again, is that
levels of mental illness,
1:30:25
they're sort of stable in the
tooth out early 2000s. And then
1:30:28
right around 2012 13, they all
go shooting up, we're talking
1:30:31
about depression, anxiety, self
harm, suicide is up by more than
1:30:35
50% among American teens. And
it's not just us, it's actually
1:30:38
happening in many other
countries. So we need to
1:30:40
understand why and that's what
the book is about. So
1:30:43
Adam Curry: notice, he says,
2013, that is not that's when
1:30:46
the social media networks really
starts at will they had momentum
1:30:50
at that point, not the
introduction of the smartphone,
1:30:54
Unknown: can you really peg this
to smartphone use the age of the
1:30:58
smartphone and seeing the
prevalence of it and this
1:31:01
generation Gen Z is really an
experiment in what happens when
1:31:05
you put a smartphone in
everyone's hand. Well, that's
1:31:07
right, because the millennials
went through puberty with flip
1:31:09
phones and flip phones aren't
particularly bad you use
1:31:12
interest to communicate. It was
when we gave kids smartphones
1:31:15
and then right around that time,
they also got Instagram and
1:31:18
other social media accounts.
When kids move their socialist
1:31:21
onto social media like that.
It's not human, it doesn't help
1:31:24
them develop. And right away
mental health collapses.
1:31:27
Adam Curry: Okay, so this, this
is bullcrap. Because Because
1:31:32
Facebook didn't even have an app
for the longest time if you
1:31:35
recall, even Wall Street was
like Facebook man, they're not
1:31:39
going to make it because they
don't have an app. Remember
1:31:41
that? No, yeah. So it wasn't the
smartphone. I'm not saying the
1:31:45
smartphone is great. But it
wasn't the phone and I have a
1:31:48
sneaky suspicion that this
lawsuit against Apple is is more
1:31:54
about taking away or distracting
from this social media companies
1:31:59
and the apps that run on the
smartphone focusing on on bad
1:32:03
apple all your bad. I think
we'll send a clip about that.
1:32:07
Let's let's bring it in. And
before I continue,
1:32:09
John C Dvorak: this is the we
didn't do the mash up of the
1:32:11
apple or I'm sorry, the three by
three but this is the mash up of
1:32:15
the three by three that brings
every network into the picture
1:32:18
and their commentary about Apple
1:32:20
Unknown: today the US Justice
Department is looking to take a
1:32:23
bite out of Apple the Department
of
1:32:25
Justice filing a landmark
lawsuit today against Apple. The
1:32:28
DOJ in 16 states accusing Apple
of monopolizing the smartphone
1:32:32
market antitrust
1:32:33
lawsuit against Apple, the
second largest company in the US
1:32:37
and the world, its stock fell
4%. Today consumers
1:32:40
should not have to pay higher
prices. Because companies break
1:32:43
the law.
1:32:44
Attorney General Merrick Garland
claiming apple 70% domination
1:32:48
over the US smartphone market as
a result of illegal behavior.
1:32:53
The DOJ alleges Apple worth $2.7
trillion unfairly tries to keep
1:32:58
users hooked on iPhones and
charges high fees from app
1:33:02
developers. Apple
1:33:03
has consolidated its monopoly
power, not by making its own
1:33:07
products better. By making other
products worse,
1:33:10
the Justice Department joining
more than a dozen states in
1:33:13
nearly a 90 page complaint,
accusing the company of
1:33:17
violating antitrust laws through
the iPhone, Apple Watch and
1:33:21
Apple Pay
1:33:22
and DOJ alleges the tech giant
blocks third party apps and
1:33:26
other services from competing
with Apple products like denying
1:33:30
iPhone users access to any other
digital wallet tap to pay
1:33:34
service. Other than Apple Pay.
1:33:36
The DOJ specifically calls out
Apple for allegedly boxing out
1:33:39
other companies devices to help
keep track of items like keys to
1:33:43
give an edge to its own air tag
and for allowing lower quality
1:33:47
text messages between iPhone and
Android users Apple
1:33:50
pushing back saying in part,
this lawsuit threatens who we
1:33:54
are the principles that sell
products. We are if successful,
1:33:58
it would hinder our ability to
create the kind of technology
1:34:02
people expect from Apple.
1:34:03
Apple denies the allegations and
says a victory for the
1:34:06
government would also set a
dangerous precedent, empowering
1:34:09
government to take a heavy hand
in designing people's
1:34:12
technology. Apple
1:34:13
basically telling DOJ See you in
court. The company is expected
1:34:17
to follow legal response soon.
Apple official said in their
1:34:20
statement tonight DOJ is lawsuit
is wrong on the facts and the
1:34:24
law.
1:34:24
The feeling inside Apple's
Cupertino headquarters is to
1:34:28
fight back hard against what
they are calling a misguided
1:34:31
assault. And the Justice
Department says if left
1:34:34
unchallenged Apple will continue
to strengthen its monopoly but
1:34:38
the department hasn't ruled out
even breaking up Apple if
1:34:41
necessary addressed except that
hasn't happened since Bell
1:34:45
systems back in 1982. Let's make
1:34:47
it personal but I can't see my
mom certain videos or she can't
1:34:50
see me certain videos and so we
find
1:34:52
your mom iPhone.
1:34:55
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know they're
attacking the the most
1:34:58
successful device manufacturer.
They really are. Meanwhile, I
1:35:03
mean, this kind of just came
out. But this happened between
1:35:06
20 2016 and 2019. Facebook was,
was making a lot of their users
1:35:12
try out their VPN. Did you catch
1:35:16
John C Dvorak: this story? No, I
did not catch this story. Yes.
1:35:19
Adam Curry: So they had a VPN
product. And so they, you know,
1:35:23
they offered, they have their
root certificate. And they were
1:35:26
and that this is this is all
emails that are published now.
1:35:29
And this is only just now coming
to light. Zuckerberg every it
1:35:32
was called Ghostbusters, this
project internally because they
1:35:35
had the they had the root cert.
They were conducting a man in
1:35:42
the middle attack to intercept
and decrypt what their users
1:35:46
were looking at on Snapchat,
YouTube and Amazon. I mean, that
1:35:51
is possibly the worst thing you
could do. And of course, it
1:35:54
makes you think about the VPN
provider using and they had kits
1:36:00
root kits for and or the kids
for Android and iOS, that
1:36:04
impersonated official servers
and decrypted traffic Facebook
1:36:07
wasn't authorized access? Of
course not. So they could plan
1:36:10
competitive moves against
Snapchat and other companies.
1:36:14
Nice. So wow, that's not a
that's not a big story at all.
1:36:19
No,
1:36:19
John C Dvorak: I like you said,
like I said, I haven't heard
1:36:22
this story. And it's a killer.
And
1:36:24
Adam Curry: on top of that, the
it's now coming out that the
1:36:29
Department of Justice demanded
from Google comm all information
1:36:36
about certain accounts, users
who accessed certain YouTube
1:36:40
videos arrived around January 6.
Yeah, it is a good one. So if
1:36:46
you so you know, there you go.
You're you're watching the
1:36:50
video, you know, it gets heated
up. So it shows up your
1:36:53
recommendation, you click on it,
boom, you're on a list. Yep,
1:36:57
you're on a list this this is
it's all it's the season of
1:37:01
reveal was upon us. But we still
have to deal with the social
1:37:05
media companies. World Health
Organization getting in on the
1:37:09
on the gambit,
1:37:10
Unknown: the schoolyard bully is
increasingly becoming a cyber
1:37:14
bully. A new study from the
World Health Organization finds
1:37:17
online harassment among
adolescents is on the rise
1:37:21
magnified by the increase in
their digital interactions.
1:37:25
About one in six adolescents say
that they have been cyber
1:37:30
bullied once or twice in the
last couple of months. And here
1:37:34
we can see that there's, there's
not much of a gender difference.
1:37:39
The
1:37:39
study use data from 44 countries
and regions across Europe,
1:37:43
Central Asia and Canada.
Researchers surveyed more than a
1:37:47
quarter million kids aged 11 to
15 years old. For boys cyber
1:37:52
bullying peaked at age 11. For
girls, aged 13. And these kids
1:37:58
now spend up to six hours a day
online bullying inside schools
1:38:03
has declined over the past
decade as cyber bullying surge.
1:38:07
Social media companies, such as
metta have beefed up child
1:38:11
safety features recently, in an
effort to limit harassment and
1:38:14
exposure to harmful content. But
the WHO says there needs to be
1:38:19
more education around the
dangers of cyber bullying, as
1:38:23
well as an increased investment
in peer violence monitoring. All
1:38:27
Adam Curry: right, so lots of
monitoring going up. But I'm
1:38:29
just thinking about, you know,
it was Google who pushed so
1:38:32
hard, Let's Encrypt push so hard
that every website has to be SSL
1:38:38
encrypted. Yeah. Which I refuse
on webpages that I host that are
1:38:44
just pages of like a show notes.
No, yeah, who cares? Well, they
1:38:49
also control the browser that
then shows a little thief with a
1:38:53
with a mask like trying to get
your data is reaching through
1:38:56
your browser. Oh, dangerous. Oh,
except the risks move on. What
1:39:01
who controls those certificates?
Who controls the root
1:39:06
certificate of all this stuff?
Is it really to be trusted? I
1:39:12
doubt that. I
1:39:14
John C Dvorak: doubt it too.
1:39:16
Adam Curry: So now we bring on
guys are all scammers at heart.
1:39:20
Now we bring on our Surgeon
General Vivek Murthy. And this
1:39:26
is on CNN with the on the
Amanpour show. And well, it's
1:39:30
everything just bad.
1:39:32
Unknown: Are you surprised that
this country I mean, you know,
1:39:35
pretty close to top of the
tables in the OECD nations is
1:39:38
the second most unhappy,
depressed country in the world.
1:39:42
Only Uzbekistan has it worse.
Oh, we're
1:39:45
Adam Curry: better than it was
Becca Stein, you might as well
1:39:47
just call us phone number wise.
1:39:49
Unknown: Well, I'm deeply
concerned. But I think one of
1:39:51
the key lessons from this is
that economic prosperity alone
1:39:55
is not the key to happiness. And
in fact, what we are seeing is
1:39:58
that in many, many cases
entries, which are increasingly
1:40:01
modernizing in terms of their
economy, their culture, etc.
1:40:05
We're actually seeing that
unhappiness is growing. And I
1:40:08
think that's coming for a few
different reasons. One of them
1:40:10
is because we are actually
pulling further and further
1:40:13
apart from one another. With the
benefits and efficiencies of
1:40:16
modern technology and ways of
life, we actually have fewer
1:40:19
friends that we trust with your
relationships we can rely on.
1:40:23
And that is a direct impact on
our happiness and well being.
1:40:26
The other challenge, though, is
I think technology has been a
1:40:28
mixed blessing for us. And I
think particularly when it comes
1:40:31
to young people, the impact of
social media on their mental
1:40:35
health has often been quite
negative, which is why last
1:40:38
year, I issued a surgeon
general's advisory on social
1:40:41
media and youth mental health to
point out the fact that when
1:40:44
young people are using social
media, as they often are for
1:40:47
more than three hours a day,
they double their risk of
1:40:50
anxiety and depression symptoms,
1:40:52
Adam Curry: which is great. We
can we can get more anti
1:40:55
depression drugs. Don't You're
not fooling me, Vivek. So let's
1:41:00
continue on. By the way, three
hours a day, try six, you have
1:41:04
Unknown: in fact gone even
further comparing social media
1:41:08
and the tech companies to 20th
century car giants, which have
1:41:12
produced vehicles without
seatbelts and airbags until
1:41:15
legislation mandated it.
1:41:17
Adam Curry: What a horrible,
horrible analogy. How about just
1:41:22
drugs?
1:41:22
Unknown: What's happening in
social media is the equivalent
1:41:24
of having children in cars that
have no safety features and
1:41:27
driving on roads, with no speed
limits, no traffic lights, no
1:41:30
rules whatsoever. And we're
telling you, you know, what, do
1:41:33
your best figure it out? It's
insane.
1:41:36
Yeah, that is what we've done to
our children. It's we've put
1:41:39
them in unsafe, untenable
environments, and we're hoping
1:41:43
for the best and you know who
else we've placed a burden on
1:41:45
our parents, parents all across
the world are trying to figure
1:41:50
out how to manage social media
for their kids, these platforms
1:41:53
are rapidly evolving. Many
parents never grew up with them.
1:41:56
And what they are finding is
that their kids are often
1:41:58
exposed to extraordinary harms,
whether that's violence and
1:42:01
sexual content, whether it's
content generated by the
1:42:04
algorithm that in some cases
tells them to harm themselves.
1:42:07
And the experience itself, many
young people tell me has led
1:42:10
them to often feel worse about
themselves and about their
1:42:13
friendships, yet, they feel they
can get off of it. Because the
1:42:16
features that are built in are
meant to maximize how much time
1:42:20
we all spend on them. And that
is a profound source of concern
1:42:24
for me as a doctor, as I watched
the profound the profound and
1:42:27
disturbing health effects on our
kid. Hey,
1:42:29
Adam Curry: Silicon Valley that
coming for you very
1:42:33
John C Dvorak: little side bit
in here, which is, this was the
1:42:37
same kind of complaint that we
heard in the 80s. about video
1:42:42
games, yeah, oh, these video
games are gonna ruin the
1:42:46
children. And then, in the end
that evolved over time and to
1:42:50
you know, simulations have good
and bad benefits. But then we
1:42:54
have these clips, listen to this
flow state of mind.
1:43:00
Unknown: There's a state of mind
called flow. When you're
1:43:03
completely absorbed in an
activity that's challenging, but
1:43:06
not too hard. artists
1:43:07
feel it when they paint or draw.
Musicians feel it when they play
1:43:11
an instrument. It's a sense of
deep engagement with an activity
1:43:14
where you might look up and
suddenly notice a lot of time
1:43:17
has passed
1:43:18
and flow can help you feel less
stressed, says Kate Sweeney, a
1:43:22
psychology professor at the
University of California,
1:43:25
Riverside flow is
1:43:26
really good for us. It gives us
a lot of positive emotions. But
1:43:30
it's also especially well suited
to times when we're really in
1:43:32
our heads when we're worried
about the future when we're
1:43:35
ruminating about something and
we just can't turn it off. Flow
1:43:38
is a pretty good off switch for
that kind of thinking. So he
1:43:40
says an easy way to achieve flow
is by playing video games.
1:43:46
Adam Curry: Before you know it,
you're in a movie produced by
1:43:48
Dana Brunetti.
1:43:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's that but there's a part
1:43:52
two to this, but that it's like
wait a minute, everything that
1:43:57
we're all the information that
they throw at us is all bogus.
1:44:01
Can I just say tell us one thing
one minute and they tell us
1:44:03
something else? The next is flow
thing I never heard and I would
1:44:07
say
1:44:09
Adam Curry: that if you if we on
this podcast right now say video
1:44:14
games are bad. There's proof
then you will get a million
1:44:19
emails, new evidence video games
great me by the way. I think
1:44:24
that's how a lot of dudes become
trans. But the video game
1:44:30
industry is huge. They have a
lot of money. They got a lot
1:44:33
biggest bigger than Hollywood.
They have a lot of money and
1:44:36
there's a lot of lobbying and a
lot of that has military
1:44:39
industrial complex who love the
simulation. If you can become a
1:44:44
third place at Lemond as a sim
driver, I'm pretty sure you can
1:44:49
be good on the battlefield if
you've played war Warcraft or
1:44:54
whatever it's called.
1:44:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sports
ball. Yes, sports
1:44:58
Adam Curry: ball and the other
one the Yeah, what's what's the
1:45:01
other one call of duty? A bet
you, you bet you're a decent
1:45:04
warrior a bit, you're good
solid.
1:45:06
John C Dvorak: That was the
thesis of a movie that's never
1:45:08
been produced again. It was
produced once in the 70s, called
1:45:12
the last star fighter and
everyone that listen to this
1:45:15
show probably seen the movie.
And it was based on the premise
1:45:18
that they could put a video game
out into public domain. And then
1:45:22
the kid who could beat the whole
game and be the best in the
1:45:26
country, could be solicited for
an intergalactic battle of some
1:45:31
bad dudes in outer space. I
totally one of the really great
1:45:36
movies, and it's never been
done. Again, it's never been
1:45:38
fully explained why they can't
produce this movie, again, as I
1:45:41
think is because this is in play
as we speak. But you can claim
1:45:46
the second part of the flow one
1:45:48
Unknown: of the good ones,
there's really two groups of
1:45:50
people who know a lot about
flow. That's psychologists and
1:45:52
video game signers. And video
games are really kind of as a
1:45:55
whole built for exactly this
purpose. They're getting harder
1:45:58
as you get better. They're
showing you and you're making
1:46:00
progress. Sweeney
1:46:01
studied how video games help
people worry less. She recruited
1:46:05
300 college students and put
them in a slightly stressful
1:46:09
situation,
1:46:10
they were unexpectedly
photographed and made to believe
1:46:13
that their peers would be rating
their picture. While
1:46:15
the students waited they played
a game that was similar to
1:46:19
Tetris.
1:46:21
There were three versions of the
classic game where players have
1:46:23
to stack up falling blocks,
there was a hard one where the
1:46:26
blocks move too quickly and
frustrated the players as
1:46:29
slow one that was too boring,
and a
1:46:33
third version that was just
right, and allow players to
1:46:37
achieve flow.
1:46:38
And the folks who were in that
state, that flow state that we
1:46:41
created with the game, they had
an easier time waiting for that
1:46:44
news about their attractiveness
than those who were in the other
1:46:47
conditions.
1:46:47
Sweeney says flow can be a bit
of a gateway to addiction. But
1:46:51
anything can be addictive. If
you do it too much. It's
1:46:55
a great tool for flow. As long
as you're not sort of overdoing
1:46:58
it and checking out too much
from your life.
1:47:00
I need flow. I'm gonna download
that just write Tetris game.
1:47:03
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm telling
you, you get into a state of
1:47:06
flow. You're primed to become
trans I'm telling you right now,
1:47:09
but you can do you can email me
1:47:10
John C Dvorak: call is called
flow because as soon as you're
1:47:12
gonna call yourself and flow, my
name is flow.
1:47:15
Adam Curry: Yes, they put you in
a state of trance. Yeah, but
1:47:18
simulation, it is a simulator.
And you'll you'll see. And I
1:47:24
know people who are too boomers
talking about video games. Hey,
1:47:28
we bet we've been around video
games longer than you've been on
1:47:30
the planet. Okay. I was addicted
to asteroids for
1:47:35
John C Dvorak: quite a while.
Asteroids. Original that was oh,
1:47:38
gee, Pinball. Oh, gee, that's an
OG. Yes. Great. That was a great
1:47:43
game when it came out.
1:47:43
Adam Curry: Asteroids was
phenomenal. Especially the
1:47:45
arcade version. Anyway, well,
that's
1:47:48
John C Dvorak: the one that
yeah, that was the one. Let's
1:47:50
get
1:47:50
Adam Curry: back to how we're
going to kill our kids. And now
1:47:54
with AI, by the way, for you,
dude, video gamers, this is for
1:47:58
you. So of
1:47:59
Unknown: course not everybody
thinks AI is going to be the
1:48:02
replacement, you know, for
romance, not just dating apps,
1:48:06
but actual robots and things.
Whereby on. So
1:48:10
I think it can be tempting and
easy to look at AI as a panacea
1:48:14
for all ills, and it might be
easier and more convenient to
1:48:17
turn to a chatbot tend to go out
and build a relationship. But
1:48:21
these are fundamentally
different. There is no
1:48:23
replacement for in person human
connection. It's how we were
1:48:25
evolved over 1000s of years we
were wired hardwired to connect
1:48:29
with one another. And we've got
to intentionally build that back
1:48:32
into our life now because it is
slipping away.
1:48:34
Adam Curry: I think we this is
where we bring in the in sells
1:48:37
Unknown: to bring this back in a
way to social media that you are
1:48:40
very concerned about social
media algorithms amplify
1:48:45
misogynistic content,
1:48:47
Adam Curry: again, they amplify
influencers telling you to get
1:48:50
on antidepressants because hot
girls take Lexapro What
1:48:53
Unknown: about women podcaster
and business professor at NYU
1:48:57
Scott Galloway has said you
know,
1:49:00
Adam Curry: business professor
isn't the professor of marketing
1:49:05
business but hold on stop it's
your it's your beat Scott
1:49:09
Galloway that you can't tell me
as a business professor who may
1:49:14
see this may see what is he
began be a clinical perfectly
1:49:21
Clinical Professor of Marketing.
What is that?
1:49:27
John C Dvorak: A click no idea
what that is. Sounds
1:49:30
Adam Curry: like something you
can get off of a podcast
1:49:34
John C Dvorak: like a clinical
professor, clinic
1:49:37
Adam Curry: Clinical Professor
of Marketing, at what school and
1:49:41
why you
1:49:42
John C Dvorak: my NYU screwed
up.
1:49:44
Adam Curry: I mean, we could
give out clinical,
1:49:46
John C Dvorak: clinical,
clinical clinical podcasts.
1:49:49
That's our next PhD
1:49:50
Unknown: I misogynistic content.
Again, all about women.
1:49:54
podcaster and business professor
at NYU Scott Galloway has said
1:49:59
you know because there is a
really dangerous phenomenon we
1:50:02
do not want young, lonely,
depressed males, you know, you
1:50:07
know in society, which is what
social media is also enhancing
1:50:11
plus all those in sales, you
know women hating in sales, all
1:50:15
of this also is on social media
or when it
1:50:18
comes to the algorithms. I do
think that they are highly
1:50:21
problematic. I think they they
tend to amplify content that
1:50:25
has, as I think of it a high
emotional valence. That means
1:50:27
that content that's going to
stoke our emotions, if you want
1:50:31
to draw people's attention in
psychology will tell you that
1:50:35
the best way to do that is just
stoke anxiety, fear and anger.
1:50:40
There's so many parents that I
have met all across the United
1:50:44
States who have told me that
when their child was in a moment
1:50:47
of emotional distress, they
broke up with a girlfriend or a
1:50:51
boyfriend or they had a major
disappointment in life, that At
1:50:54
those times, they have sometimes
turned to social media for help
1:50:58
somebody the algorithm has often
served up content that in fact
1:51:01
amplifies their sadness. In too
many cases, parents have told me
1:51:05
that in those settings, the
algorithm brought content to
1:51:09
their child that not only
suggested that they take their
1:51:12
own life, but actually walk them
through how to do that. And in
1:51:15
many cases, their child did end
up losing their life. These are
1:51:19
unconscionable circumstances and
situations that should not be
1:51:22
allowed.
1:51:24
Adam Curry: Ah, here's Adams
advice, stop scrolling, start
1:51:29
seeking. Get off of this stuff.
Parents, if you're going to be
1:51:34
held responsible. We already are
putting parents in jail because
1:51:39
their kid got a gun and shot up
the school. You'll be
1:51:44
responsible for everything your
child does. If you don't get
1:51:46
them off social media. Get them
on the basketball court. Get
1:51:50
them on the fence, get him on
the fencing boards, anything,
1:51:56
anything but this
1:51:58
John C Dvorak: let me cake the
fencing court how many schools
1:52:01
have that that's how
1:52:02
Adam Curry: I got into fencing.
I was quite good at fencing. You
1:52:08
know that, don't you? I would
say you bring it up every every
1:52:11
couple of years you bring in I
was third in the nation. He was
1:52:13
actually pretty good Dutch
nationals. I never got beyond
1:52:16
foil I was wanting to say but I
got stuck at foil. But if
1:52:21
fencing is it's pretty cool. And
they remember they came to the
1:52:25
school, they did a
demonstration. And they choose
1:52:28
two kids and then you're sitting
there like oh man, I wish they
1:52:30
would have chosen me and said
Hey, you can come by the studio.
1:52:34
It's actually a fencing studio.
Come by the studio. The master
1:52:37
will will give you a free
lesson. I was hooked. I loved
1:52:41
it. It was perfect for soy boys
is great. You don't need to be
1:52:45
that athletic to win at fencing
anything but this anything. It
1:52:51
John C Dvorak: won't even let
you do dodgeball anymore. Those
1:52:54
things too dangerous.
1:52:57
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had I had
quite the reach actually, as a
1:53:00
kid. All right. We can now move
to the latest in I think
1:53:09
replacement migration. Actually,
there's a there's a guy I think
1:53:12
he's on. I know he's on telegram
but he's also on Mon x bar RGV
1:53:20
truth RGV truth. And he has been
he is down by the border on the
1:53:26
other side. And he is sending me
pictures. It's all United
1:53:31
Nations International Office of
migration. They got signs they
1:53:36
got instructions. They you know
they give you your bag, your hat
1:53:41
your card. It's all a setup this
all to move people into our
1:53:48
country because they don't want
to have wages rise. In fact, we
1:53:53
need to suppress them with cheap
labor. The minute they get here,
1:53:56
the system gets overloaded see
Chicago then we need work
1:53:59
permits right away. Thank you
unions. And well what about the
1:54:04
people who were flying in? How
about those Senate
1:54:07
Unknown: amendment that 1000?
Yeah, here we go. Senate
1:54:10
amendment that would ban the use
of taxpayer money to fly
1:54:13
migrants into the US goes down
and a whopping defeat. It was
1:54:18
5147. Every Republican voted for
it. Every Democrat voted against
1:54:23
it. Republican Senator Bill
Haggerty out of Tennessee
1:54:25
proposed the amendment. He joins
us in studio and hello to you
1:54:29
was the writing on the wall
before this thing even hit the
1:54:32
floor.
1:54:32
You know it was amazing. Chuck
Schumer tried everything he
1:54:35
could to block this until the
very dead of night. We ran right
1:54:39
up to basically a government
shutdown before he finally
1:54:42
capitulated and said okay, we'll
put it on the floor but I didn't
1:54:44
get it onto the floor till the
middle of the night, perhaps.
1:54:47
One 30 In the morning, when the
vote went down. I think they
1:54:51
thought no one would see it. No
one would see that every
1:54:53
Democrat voted to fly. illegal
migrants in here from countries
1:54:57
like Haiti Cuba, Nicaragua,
Colombia. on taxpayer funds
1:55:01
using charter flights, flying
them over our border and putting
1:55:04
them into the interior of
America, how many were talking
1:55:06
about Senator 320,000 last year?
1:55:11
Adam Curry: Now, on the other
hand, if we don't do this, and
1:55:16
this is an interesting way, also
a little bit about birth
1:55:20
control, and Planned Parenthood
and abortion rights, but look at
1:55:26
what's happening in Japan.
Immigration, not encouraged
1:55:30
immigration. I don't think it's
easy to go and live in Japan.
1:55:34
I'm not sure how hard it is very
hard. It makes sense. Yeah, it
1:55:40
makes sense because their birth
rate has plummeted. It's been
1:55:43
down for decades. And now this
is the result with birth rates
1:55:48
dropping
1:55:48
Unknown: dramatically. In Japan,
a company there has announced
1:55:51
that it is stopping production
of diapers for babies, it says
1:55:54
demand is simply not there.
Instead, it's refocusing on the
1:55:58
growing market diapers for
adults, in fact, firstly, your
1:56:02
parents have outsold diapers for
your newborn now for about a
1:56:07
decade. It's a surprising piece
of data that shines a light on a
1:56:11
serious problem. The number of
births in Japan dropped to a new
1:56:15
low last year with more than
twice as many deaths as new
1:56:18
babies born. If things continue
that way, Japan's population
1:56:22
could shrink by 30% over the
next 45 years. I'm pleased to
1:56:27
welcome to the day Jennifer
Robertson she's a Professor of
1:56:30
Anthropology and History of Art
at the University of Michigan's
1:56:33
basically the demographic, the
chart has flipped flopped in the
1:56:37
past century and six successive
Japanese governments have they
1:56:41
tried and been unable to
encourage you know, the people
1:56:45
to get married and have more
babies.
1:56:47
Adam Curry: Now listen to this.
Very
1:56:49
Unknown: good question. Well,
during the height of the Pacific
1:56:52
War, roughly 1932 to 1945. In
Japan, the government withheld
1:56:58
birth control, and also allowed
soldiers to take two week
1:57:01
furlough so they could
impregnate their wives to put it
1:57:04
directly. Today in democratic
Japan, they can't do that. And
1:57:09
so they are trying all sorts of
options, giving more money to
1:57:15
families to have children. The
idea was floated back during the
1:57:22
administration of the late
former Prime Minister Ave, in
1:57:26
2006. Seven to introduce robots
to the home. But that hasn't
1:57:32
proved feasible at all.
1:57:33
Adam Curry: Robots Robo sapiens.
That's that's the answer.
1:57:38
John C Dvorak: So the real
answer, which was a subtext in
1:57:41
what she had to say, is,
financial incentives would make
1:57:46
a huge difference. If it was a
real incentive as opposed to no
1:57:51
incentive or oh, here's a tax
credit. Exactly. You start
1:57:54
giving people the kind of money
they're just rolling away on the
1:57:57
immigrants. You kick you get
some babies out of it. Yes. And
1:58:00
no, they don't even think about
that. Because they don't want
1:58:03
you.
1:58:04
Adam Curry: That's right. That's
right. Well, that's our that's
1:58:08
our choice here in America. make
babies. That's my that's my
1:58:15
advice. Okay.
1:58:22
John C Dvorak: So I want to get
onto Mars. Something a little
1:58:25
different. Yeah, please, because
it's kind of an ask Adam.
1:58:28
Adam Curry: I'm kind of
depressed now. I mean, we've got
1:58:31
we got Japanese diapers for
adults. I mean, what are we
1:58:34
going to do? robots? Robots.
1:58:41
John C Dvorak: How about this?
This is an I consider this
1:58:44
Adam Curry: a do I need to get
the jingle? No,
1:58:47
John C Dvorak: I consider this a
native ad. This is NPR ad for
1:58:51
WTF meals. This is not the
bonus, which I don't really,
1:58:55
really want to play. But I want
you to play this home
1:58:57
Unknown: chef delivers home
cooked meals to your dinnertime
1:59:00
routine. Each weekly menu
rotates 15 oven ready and fast
1:59:05
and fresh meals that cook in the
oven or microwave for a fresh
1:59:09
flavorful meal with minimal
steps. After you're done. Toss
1:59:12
the TIN for easy cleanup. Wow.
1:59:17
Adam Curry: You're telling me
that wasn't an ad that is that
1:59:19
really? No.
1:59:20
John C Dvorak: That was an ad.
It was actually an ad ad copy.
1:59:23
Yeah. So how does it question to
you is how does this differ from
1:59:29
the 1970s? And, and something
called the Swanson TV dinner?
1:59:34
Dinner? Sure, with the 10 that
you toss into the bin? Yes, this
1:59:40
exactly the same. They re
introduced the Swanson TV
1:59:44
dinner, to the American public
making some sort of a high tech
1:59:48
bull crap, kind of like we're,
you know, apron and all these
1:59:52
other operations kind of failed.
Here, we're gonna send you a
1:59:56
whole box of these things. Cook
and put them in the oven. The
2:00:00
microwave although it's putting
tinted stuff that you know metal
2:00:04
in the microwave is not
necessarily productive.
2:00:08
Adam Curry: But well hold on a
second. Let's let's let's see if
2:00:11
we can find a Swanson TV dinner
commercial. 1955. Here we go.
2:00:20
Unknown: You guys think you're
lucky you can get Swanson TV
2:00:23
turkey dinners, but I say
Swanson TV turkey dinners are a
2:00:26
bigger break for husbands. You
take me, I can be early. I can
2:00:30
be late. I can bring pals to
dinner anytime I please and get
2:00:33
this. My wife never panics.
Never pan Streisand TV turkey
2:00:39
dinners from my fishing
compartment of our refrigerator
2:00:41
when I'm a little off schedule.
And right You are Jack. And that
2:00:46
is because Mary Lou knows that
she can have a swell dinner
2:00:50
ready and just
2:00:51
Adam Curry: Hey, honey, can you
make a swell dinner for me
2:00:54
tonight? Honey,
2:00:55
Unknown: right talk about easy.
Well, she just popped Swanson TV
2:00:59
turkey dinners in a hot oven.
Their you know their oven ready
2:01:02
and individual. He didn't serve
trays. Yes. What's the Swanson
2:01:05
TV turkey dinners. You just heat
and serve and you serve big and
2:01:10
hearty slices of moist tender
Swanson turkey with grand giblet
2:01:15
gravy show cornbread dressing
and fluffy whipped sweet potato
2:01:20
get to the 10 year old and
Swanson butter and garden
2:01:23
frisbees with more butter.
Butter luckyme My wife uses
2:01:29
Swanson TV turkey dinners. Make
your husband lucky to watch TV
2:01:34
turkey dinner husband lucky
Swanson TV fried chicken
2:01:37
dinners. Swanson TV beat dinners
from your groceries big freezer.
2:01:43
They
2:01:43
Adam Curry: didn't they didn't
have the payoff of toss the tin
2:01:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well
everyone expected the toss to 10
2:01:49
I guess they knew enough to do
that anyway.
2:01:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, well here
Yeah, I was a kid. Here's a 32nd
2:01:56
from the 70s this is better
maybe? Let's see.
2:02:09
Unknown: Swanson puts dinner
together the way you like it.
2:02:12
Crispy, juicy chicken with all
the fixings. When Swanson a you
2:02:16
choose dark meat or lightweight
dinners you get just what you
2:02:19
want. From today's Swanson, your
choice of chicken dinners.
2:02:29
Adam Curry: No toss of the tin.
2:02:31
John C Dvorak: I says a little
as an aside this the family
2:02:34
ended up selling the business
course it folded after they sold
2:02:36
it and bought the Swanson winery
in Napa Valley is really based
2:02:41
on really, can
2:02:42
Adam Curry: you toss away the
bottle? Of course you can. You
2:02:45
can toss away the bottle. So
you're right. It's the only
2:02:49
difference is the term TV.
Because that was the big thing
2:02:53
is that and we had TV, dinner
trays and you'd say we had trays
2:02:58
so you set it up. You'd be
sailing on the couch. Yep, right
2:03:01
there on the couch. And it went.
And it was called that it was a
2:03:04
TV dinner tray. Or TV dinner
table. Which one was it? I don't
2:03:09
remember. Yeah, I
2:03:09
John C Dvorak: still have a set
of him I used to use came around
2:03:13
when she was a little girl.
Yeah, we have to eat in the
2:03:17
dining room.
2:03:18
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, it was
a big deal if we could eat in
2:03:21
front of the TV that was like
oh, okay, kids. Because cool
2:03:24
because the movies aren't
waiting for before we had video
2:03:27
recorders. How can we sit? Can
we watch Can we eat dinner while
2:03:31
we're watching TV mom and now
it's just a throw it in the
2:03:35
microwave? Eat it while you're
on your video game and scrolling
2:03:39
on Twitter. Now how we've
devolved let's start fencing
2:03:45
kids start fencing. Okay, well
there was some kind of odd I
2:03:52
have a couple of clips I would
like to play them. The M five M
2:03:56
just went off the rails with
this Rona McDaniel Rana Rana
2:04:00
McDaniels Yeah, I remember
firing. I have these are
2:04:05
actually from deadline. So it's
what's your face? Nicole
2:04:09
John C Dvorak: wall and it'll be
from Jessie wall. Walker.
2:04:12
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I'm
gonna since it's about MSNBC and
2:04:15
not Jesse walking. To play these
first times
2:04:19
Unknown: in which we do this
when we meet you and us here at
2:04:22
the table are don't have to tell
you this. Dire, the show has
2:04:27
dedicated itself to a jarring
pursuit of the uncomfortable
2:04:32
truth about our politics and our
political leaders and our
2:04:36
justice system. And, yes, the
media today, this network, this
2:04:42
part of that story. On Friday,
NBC News announced it had hired
2:04:45
Rhonda McDaniel as a paid
contributor. By Saturday night
2:04:48
it was reported in The Wall
Street Journal that MSNBC
2:04:51
President Rashida Jones had
separated this network from that
2:04:53
decision indicating that Rhonda
McDaniel would not appear on our
2:04:57
air.
2:04:58
Adam Curry: I love the series
s&s of just how serious Nicole
2:05:03
Wallace takes herself and the
journalistic integrity of the
2:05:07
NBC news department.
2:05:10
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
story because of the NBC. The
2:05:14
guy who runs the news
department, being a spineless
2:05:17
weenie. And everybody and this
is the most amazing thing I've
2:05:23
ever witnessed that some news
that these people think they're
2:05:27
newsman, and then they're not.
They're just a bunch of
2:05:30
chatterboxes
2:05:31
Adam Curry: I'm Walter
Cronkite's, Prodigy debits I
2:05:34
Unknown: Sunday morning
following her first paid
2:05:35
appearance on NBC Meet the
Press. My colleague, Chuck Todd
2:05:39
went full William McElroy
2:05:42
Adam Curry: went for what?
William Knakal who's William
2:05:45
McAvoy?
2:05:47
John C Dvorak: Bye bye be right.
You're asking the wrong guy. And
2:05:50
they'll look up William McAfee
2:05:53
Unknown: on behalf of who's
paying her. What was that the
2:05:56
RNC? She did say that, hey, I'm
speaking for the party. I get
2:06:00
that that's part of the job. So
what about here, when NBC made
2:06:05
the decision to give her NBC
News is credibility. You guys?
2:06:10
What does she bring NBC News.
And when we make deals like
2:06:14
this, and I've been at this
company a long time, you're
2:06:16
doing it for access, access to
audience, sometimes it's access
2:06:20
to an individual. And we can
have a journalistic ethics
2:06:23
debate about that. I have that.
2:06:29
Unfortunately, this interview is
always going to be looked
2:06:32
through the prism of who is she
speaking for? Unfortunately,
2:06:35
Adam Curry: they didn't have the
debate about all the shields
2:06:38
that they have hired, like John
Brennan, for access to the
2:06:43
intelligence community, all the
former generals they have for
2:06:47
access to the military
industrial complex. They have
2:06:51
Scott, what's his face from
Pfizer? You know, he's always on
2:06:57
CNBC, for access to Big Pharma.
This is that's the debate that I
2:07:03
would have liked to have seen.
You have chip Todd, Todd
2:07:07
podcaster, that you find out who
that guy is.
2:07:11
John C Dvorak: There's a million
of them, including the ex CEO of
2:07:14
Pan American Airways. No, you
can't figure out who it is a
2:07:17
football player, a botanist.
There's, there's that name is
2:07:21
very common. So I don't know
what the reference is to and I
2:07:24
guess you'd have to work at
MSNBC to understand it back to
2:07:27
Unknown: Nicole Wallace. My
colleagues, Joe Scarborough and
2:07:29
Mika Brzezinski also weighed in
this morning.
2:07:33
We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring. But if we were we
2:07:36
would have strongly objected to
it for several reasons. Oh, it's
2:07:40
Adam Curry: the newsroom on HBO.
That's, well, there's a
2:07:44
reference for you. The guy that
you're looking for.
2:07:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it's a
fictional character
2:07:53
Unknown: character behind but if
it were, we would have strongly
2:07:56
objected to it for several
reasons, including, but not
2:08:01
limited to, as lawyers might
say, Miss McDaniels role in
2:08:05
Donald Trump's fake electoral
scheme. And her pressuring
2:08:08
election officials to not
certify election results while
2:08:13
Donald Trump was on the phone.
2:08:15
To be clear, oh, we believe NBC
News should seek out
2:08:20
conservative Republican voices
to provide balance in their
2:08:23
election coverage. But it should
be conservative Republicans not
2:08:28
a person who used her position
of power to be an anti democracy
2:08:33
election denier.
2:08:37
Adam Curry: Love it when the
news reports on itself and
2:08:40
they're not just reporting on.
On other news, people know
2:08:43
themself. They take themselves
so Do you not realize that we
2:08:47
all laugh at you? That we mock
you? And and wait and this is
2:08:53
the kicker? They take themselves
so seriously. For what are they
2:08:59
doing? Like 900,000 viewers?
This podcast has more listeners
2:09:03
than you have viewers people.
2:09:05
Unknown: For our part here.
We're gonna cover this story as
2:09:07
part of our ongoing series of
conversations about American
2:09:10
autocracy asking the question
are positing the theory that it
2:09:14
could happen here? I'm gonna
read to you an excerpt from
2:09:18
Timothy Snyder's on tyranny.
Timothy
2:09:20
Adam Curry: Snyder on to who is
this?
2:09:22
John C Dvorak: Oh no, is
2:09:23
Adam Curry: this another queer
reference and it's
2:09:25
Unknown: standing by to talk to
us. This is from the first page
2:09:28
that's the first chapter of on
tyranny, quote, most of the
2:09:31
power of authoritarianism is
freely given in times like these
2:09:35
individuals think ahead about
what a more repressive
2:09:38
government will want, and then
offer themselves without being
2:09:41
asked. A citizen who adapts in
this way is teaching power, what
2:09:46
it can do and quote in this new
either way.
2:09:53
Adam Curry: It's Timothy.
Timothy knows what he's talking
2:09:55
about. This they are the
witnesses fart sniffing. That's
2:10:00
with this is it's what farts
sniffing the sniffing each
2:10:03
other's farts. This is nasty and
then
2:10:06
Unknown: offer themselves
without being asked. A citizen
2:10:09
who adapts in this way is
teaching power, what it can do
2:10:13
and quote, in this instance, NBC
News either wittingly or
2:10:17
unwittingly is teaching election
deniers that what they can do
2:10:22
stretches well beyond appearing
on our air in interviews to
2:10:25
peddle lies about the sanctity
and integrity of our elections,
2:10:29
which Ron McDaniels did
yesterday at the press. Can you
2:10:33
say as you sit here today, did
Joe Biden win the election fair
2:10:36
and square one, he's
2:10:37
the legitimate environment
2:10:39
where and square one it's
certified, it's done. But I do
2:10:44
want
2:10:45
to say that why has now to be
able
2:10:48
to I'm gonna push back a little
because I do think it's fair to
2:10:51
say there were problems in 2020
and to say that does not mean
2:10:55
he's not
2:10:56
Adam Curry: gonna win, you know,
wait for it. Here we go.
2:11:00
Unknown: But we've also said
election deniers is not just
2:11:02
they can do that on our airwaves
with that they can do that as
2:11:05
one of us as bad carrying
employees of NBC News as paid
2:11:10
contributors to our sacred
airwaves.
2:11:15
John C Dvorak: I have that in
one of my clips are so far so
2:11:18
good airways.
2:11:22
Adam Curry: You're on. You're on
cable Lady and Our sacred
2:11:26
airwaves. You're on dying cable.
Everyone's cutting the cord with
2:11:30
you. Oh mio Mio.
2:11:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Love this
sacred airway could
2:11:35
Adam Curry: airwaves. Yeah, how
about that? Everyone get the VAX
2:11:40
sacred airwaves. Okay, well,
since I'll just blow right into
2:11:45
Trump here.
2:11:46
John C Dvorak: But I want to
play my Jesse clips because they
2:11:49
get a little better about
2:11:52
Adam Curry: how many of you have
I hate that I hate the Jesse
2:11:55
stories.
2:11:56
John C Dvorak: Jesse Jesse
Weller his. His presentation is
2:12:02
sucks. Is it's decent here. Oh,
Rona one.
2:12:09
Adam Curry: You don't have any
you don't have Rhona one. Oh,
2:12:13
fiasco is that the one Okay,
2:12:15
Unknown: McDaniels out. NBC just
announced they're firing the
2:12:20
former RNC Chairwoman after one
day on the job. I'm banning
2:12:24
Adam Curry: him after this. I'm
banning Jesse Walter Walton from
2:12:28
our airwaves. That's
2:12:29
Unknown: point three Scaramucci
from our sacred airwaves.
2:12:33
Chairman Cesar Conde just sent
out a memo to employees that
2:12:36
reads, I want to personally
apologize to our team members
2:12:39
who felt we let them down. We
will redouble our efforts to
2:12:43
seek voices. They represent
different parts of the political
2:12:46
spectrum. The talent is already
taking a victory lap.
2:12:51
I still feel I still feel like a
little it always feels wrong to
2:12:55
talk about things, you know, in
the company. And I think it's a
2:12:58
show of respect for the people
who work at this company. You
2:13:01
know, it's not about hiring a
Republican. It's not even about
2:13:04
hiring somebody that's Trump
ties. This was a really specific
2:13:07
case because of Ms. McDaniels
and her involvement in the
2:13:10
election interference stuff. And
I'm grateful that our our
2:13:14
leadership was willing to do
that. I think this the bold,
2:13:17
strong, resilient
2:13:19
thing Oh, resilient. So NBC
breasted a 180 after the talent
2:13:23
revolted. The people who were
involved
2:13:26
in hiring Ronna Romney McDaniel,
they don't know the Nixon rule.
2:13:30
No one close to the crimes. This
is about
2:13:33
truth versus lies service to the
country versus service to one
2:13:38
man committed to toppling our
democratic system.
2:13:41
But we've also said election
deniers is not just they can do
2:13:44
that on our airwaves with that
they can do that, as one of us.
2:13:47
As bad carrying employees of NBC
News is paid contributors to our
2:13:53
sacred airwaves.
2:13:54
You wouldn't hire a pig pocket
to work as a TSA screener. Oh
2:13:58
no, I find the decision to put
her on the payroll. It's
2:14:02
inexplicable. This
2:14:03
Adam Curry: is what our news
media has become their reporting
2:14:06
on other news media is great.
It's it's it's atrocious.
2:14:11
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
these clips are better than the
2:14:13
ones you provided because it's
got Rachel in there. Oh, that's
2:14:16
Adam Curry: so much.
2:14:16
John C Dvorak: We have a double
band we have the band Jesse
2:14:19
Waller.
2:14:21
Adam Curry: Plus, and Daniel's
all of them.
2:14:27
Unknown: The second was a
kicker. Rhonda McDaniel tells
2:14:29
fox that she still hasn't heard
anything from NBC. She learned
2:14:33
she was getting fired by reading
it in the media. And now she's
2:14:37
looking for a lawyer and her
agency that walked her into this
2:14:40
gig CAA just dropped her
2:14:45
John C Dvorak: died now there's
information for you. Yeah, well,
2:14:48
I will agree the way C a blocked
her into the deal and then fired
2:14:53
her. What kind of what kind of
representatives are is that? Is
2:14:58
that a true story and we know
that for a Fact. Well,
2:15:00
Adam Curry: yes. And do you know
that most news people have an
2:15:06
agent and it's UTA universal
talent agents agency who manage
2:15:13
the talent, according to I
believe, what stories need to be
2:15:20
massaged by whom and where they,
you know, this. Laura Logan was
2:15:26
telling me about this that you
know, her agent will be talking
2:15:30
to her boss at CBS. And in the
age won't be at all she's
2:15:35
perfect to go to Afghanistan,
these this is underreported
2:15:40
under investigated, the talent
agencies have a lot of power.
2:15:45
And it's unjust.
2:15:47
John C Dvorak: Didn't this crop
up in a recent strike against
2:15:51
some of these guys by one of the
Writers Guild or somebody that
2:15:53
said that these agents were
having too much power? Remember
2:15:56
that was like five six years
ago?
2:15:58
Adam Curry: I vaguely remember
we should ask Dana. Dana well
2:16:01
let us know. Actually,
2:16:02
John C Dvorak: he would give me
a little Yeah, I could get a lot
2:16:05
of information about who
2:16:06
Adam Curry: is who is baby a
ginger spices. Agent I want to
2:16:10
get the her agents.
2:16:12
John C Dvorak: News thing is
newspeople being controlled by
2:16:14
the agent, this is bullcrap all
of
2:16:16
Adam Curry: them at NBC or with
UTA as far as I know. And I hear
2:16:20
him talking about it sometimes
you have
2:16:22
John C Dvorak: to disclaim it.
That's the real underlying thing
2:16:24
because she was represented by
CAA we
2:16:28
Adam Curry: will see a are the
ones who who organized the Well,
2:16:35
what was it called? Not never
again. Enough was enough. Stop.
2:16:39
What was it the around the
Harvey Weinstein thing? Yeah,
2:16:45
Melissa Gilbert. What was
2:16:49
John C Dvorak: all over tallies?
It's how famous it was. We can't
2:16:52
remember. Well, they
2:16:53
Adam Curry: suck at doing the
real work. What was the name of
2:16:57
that? Me too.
2:16:59
John C Dvorak: The Me too. Me
too movement.
2:17:01
Adam Curry: But there was an but
there was another one. They had
2:17:05
us not Melissa Gilbert. That's
horrible. She's fishy
2:17:07
John C Dvorak: cat hats.
2:17:08
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. They
had it at the at the Oscars.
2:17:12
They were all wearing T shirts.
Oh, yeah. And what was the name
2:17:18
is? What was Rose McGowan with
her about I'm with her now.
2:17:25
Time's up. Time's up. That's it.
Times up and and who was that?
2:17:31
That That actress who is married
to a CIA agent. Time's up
2:17:38
Florida one now but it was she
was important.
2:17:43
John C Dvorak: Tallulah
Bankhead?
2:17:46
Adam Curry: Not even No. Not
even close. I'm thinking about
2:17:49
it now. And we'll get to it.
2:17:52
John C Dvorak: Anyway, that
you're just hoping the chat room
2:17:54
comes.
2:17:54
Adam Curry: I know I'm waiting
for like, come on trolls. What
2:17:56
are you doing? What are you
doing? Time's up was the one and
2:17:59
those in there some? Some
actress and she was all very
2:18:04
important to me. And she was she
was leading this and then it
2:18:08
kind of failed and then everyone
sunk away into the background.
2:18:12
Things always flop in there.
Yeah, they listen. Listen,
2:18:15
Milan. Oh, there it is.
2:18:16
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Oh,
Melissa Malama. Yeah, thank
2:18:19
Adam Curry: you clip custodian.
Anyway, moving right along. So
2:18:24
meanwhile,
2:18:25
John C Dvorak: you get off on me
for bringing in deti clips. And
2:18:28
in here you go off the deep end
with this kind of detail. That's
2:18:33
very celebrity news. Very to
play. Very
2:18:35
Adam Curry: weak comeback Dvorak
very weak. Trying to cry harder.
2:18:42
Meanwhile, Trump Media and
Technology Group dj t stock
2:18:46
ticker short sword sword is now
what are we at now? Six, almost
2:18:52
$62
2:18:53
John C Dvorak: And I think it
hits 75 At one polling dropped
2:18:55
back to fit the same. You see I
2:18:57
Adam Curry: have it 7120 was the
high I believe? And yeah, now
2:19:03
now it's today. It's about it's
6196. So that's working
2:19:08
perfectly. Perfectly for for
Orange Man bad. But we got to
2:19:15
take it one step further. This
is my favorite this
2:19:17
Unknown: morning ahead of his
criminal hush money trial.
2:19:20
Former President Trump is under
a new gag order prohibited from
2:19:23
making public statements about
witnesses, court staff and
2:19:27
jurors in the case concerning
his alleged payment to porn
2:19:30
actress stormy Daniels,
2:19:32
Democrat judge he wants to do
that because they're all trying
2:19:36
to damage Trump as much as
possible.
2:19:37
The gag order still allows Trump
to criticize the judge in
2:19:41
District Attorney. The trial
begins in three weeks, but
2:19:44
another deadline looms closer
Trump has eight days to post a
2:19:48
$175 million bond in a civil
fraud case. A big day on Wall
2:19:54
Street yesterday could help him
with his financial challenges.
2:19:58
Shares in Trump's media company
rose 16% on their first day of
2:20:01
trading, his stake in the
company is now worth more than
2:20:04
four and a half billion dollars.
2:20:06
This company is now valued at
about 1000 times its annual
2:20:10
revenue, it really doesn't make
any business sense.
2:20:13
Adam Curry: Unlike every AI
company, every bull crap company
2:20:17
we've seen in the past 30 years.
Of course, it doesn't make
2:20:21
sense. Today,
2:20:22
Unknown: Trump likely won't be
able to cash out though to later
2:20:25
this year. This
2:20:26
Adam Curry: is this is the
biggest lie I've ever heard. And
2:20:30
they're all doing it. Oh, he has
a lock up he can sell even the
2:20:34
Clinical Professor of Marketing
was spouting this bullcrap.
2:20:38
Anybody who has a $4 billion
stake can easily get half a
2:20:43
billion dollar caller. Do you
want to explain collars everyone
2:20:47
knows what we're talking about?
2:20:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, collars and
off the book sale of the asset
2:20:51
to somebody else some, some
person or entity that gives you
2:20:55
the money in advance. It's it's
I don't know why it's called a
2:20:58
collar. I should know well, but
2:21:00
Adam Curry: it's a collar around
your neck. It
2:21:03
John C Dvorak: but the board
would know this to the board can
2:21:08
grant him the ability to sell
the stock tomorrow or at least
2:21:13
sell $150 million worth of it
tomorrow, which is not that big
2:21:16
of a steak. It won't sink to
thing if they want to. And he's
2:21:21
the guy that's that keeps the
thing in check. It's him. It's
2:21:25
his name. If he went to the
board and asked for that you
2:21:27
think they'd say no. That's the
dumbest thing to forget the
2:21:31
caller. Yeah, but no way. They
wouldn't say no. They'd say
2:21:37
Sure. Here. You know, here's
your your your your lockup is
2:21:42
over.
2:21:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Well,
but he can't sell it. How's he
2:21:45
going to? You know what, he's
got a new Gambit. I love it. And
2:21:48
I'm buying me one.
2:21:50
Unknown: It's annual revenue. It
really doesn't make any business
2:21:52
sense from where we stand today.
Trump
2:21:54
likely won't be able to cash out
though to later this year to
2:21:58
raise money even faster. He's
now selling Bibles. All
2:22:01
Americans
2:22:02
need a Bible in their home and I
have many as my favorite book.
2:22:07
It's a lot of people's favorite
book. We must make America pray
2:22:11
again. So
2:22:12
called the USA Bible sells for
5999 It's huge. It's a great
2:22:19
John C Dvorak: other funny. You.
Actually one of the more
2:22:23
charming aspects of Trump is you
just cannot get him out of
2:22:27
huckster mode. No, he sees an
opportunity.
2:22:31
Adam Curry: I'm buying one. This
is fantastic. Are you kidding me
2:22:34
this almost everyday thing
2:22:35
John C Dvorak: that all these
huckster things he's done,
2:22:36
including the phony bills, the
$2 bill, all the rest of it, the
2:22:40
coins. It's all collectible.
It's ultimately collectible to
2:22:45
political memorabilia, people. I
2:22:47
Adam Curry: wish I could have
gotten those sneakers. They're
2:22:50
all
2:22:50
John C Dvorak: the sneakers.
Yeah. Oh, I know. A little high.
2:22:54
Oh,
2:22:54
Adam Curry: they only made 1000
I know guys who were really lay
2:22:57
down. 10 grand back. I need
these stickers. I need this. And
2:23:00
yeah, that
2:23:01
John C Dvorak: was another one.
Yeah, no, you can't. You know,
2:23:03
this. Everything from Trump
Steaks to Trump University, and
2:23:06
I always try to slam him for
this stuff. But this is a guy
2:23:09
who is the American. Yeah,
classic American guy who's just
2:23:14
trying to make money at it
anyway. He can. He'll do it.
2:23:17
nickel and dimed or billions
make
2:23:19
Adam Curry: America pray again,
is the best slogan.
2:23:22
Unbelievable. I love it. I want
that Bible. It's it's it's the
2:23:26
most popular book. It's a huge
book. It's a great book. I read.
2:23:31
I read this book all the time.
It's a great book. I
2:23:34
John C Dvorak: got them all over
my house. I got books and
2:23:39
Adam Curry: you can't you can't
not love it. That is you're
2:23:42
right. We are gaudy. That's who
we are as Americans face it.
2:23:47
We're not like commie
socialists. We love this stuff.
2:23:50
deep in our hearts. We love
this. Every I think also every
2:23:53
immigrant who comes into America
like is this a great country or
2:23:57
what? This guy is selling
Bibles? Come on. It's, it's
2:24:03
awesome. And of course, it flies
in the face of this little
2:24:07
report. Christian
2:24:08
Unknown: nationalism is a
cultural framework that
2:24:12
idealizes and advocates for the
close fusion of a very
2:24:16
particular expression of
Christianity with American civic
2:24:20
life, it does include those
Orthodox and traditional beliefs
2:24:24
of the historic Christian faith.
But what it also includes are a
2:24:28
number of cultural elements.
These cultural elements are a
2:24:32
desire for a traditionalist
social policies to be central to
2:24:37
the society. It also has a
desire for strict authoritarian
2:24:41
social control. We want
2:24:43
Trump to be the dictator to
change politics forever.
2:24:46
We also see another cultural
element is a desire for strict
2:24:50
ethno racial boundaries.
2:24:52
For example, an overwhelming
majority of Christian
2:24:54
nationalists believe in
replacement theory, and the
2:24:57
conspiracy that claims white
Americans and you Europeans are
2:25:00
being deliberately replaced by
non white immigrants. Many
2:25:04
Christian nationalists also see
black Americans as inherently
2:25:07
more violent, thus justifying
police brutality. Do you mean a
2:25:11
certain ethno religious group as
having the only rightful claim
2:25:14
to being American is known by
some as white Christian
2:25:18
nationalism, and many see it as
a threat to American democracy.
2:25:22
One of Trumps close allies, the
Center for renewing America
2:25:25
think tank has already forged
policy plans for the second
2:25:28
term, aligning with this far
right idea. With a statement on
2:25:32
the CRS website reading our
mission is to renew a consensus
2:25:36
of America as a nation under
God.
2:25:38
Adam Curry: Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh,
no. We can't have that. One
2:25:44
nation under God, indivisible.
No. What are they trying to do?
2:25:49
John C Dvorak: They're trying to
screw us horrible idea. I
2:25:51
Adam Curry: got Did you see this
boots on the ground from our our
2:25:55
fellow ham November 7 Delta
Romeo kilo? No, I
2:25:59
John C Dvorak: did not read it.
Yes, he's
2:26:00
Adam Curry: David. He is the
Arizona State communications
2:26:03
coordinator for the Convention
of States, which we talked
2:26:07
about. And because you were you
were very against this idea,
2:26:13
then I'm all for it. And I saw
it come through, but I had not
2:26:17
read it. I'll read it because
it's interesting. He said, I
2:26:19
want to weigh in about the
Convention of States. I have my
2:26:22
boots firmly planted on the
ground in this department, once
2:26:25
again, proving we are the best
podcast in the universe with US
2:26:28
producers.
2:26:29
John C Dvorak: It's It is
unbelievable. Considering the
2:26:32
lousy donations, we've been
getting recently, that we have
2:26:36
this kind of access.
2:26:38
Adam Curry: Yeah, and we don't
have to hire anybody for this
2:26:40
kind of access. Todd. I've been
a volunteer for the Convention
2:26:44
of States for eight years. And
I'm currently the Arizona State
2:26:48
communications coordinator. I've
worked tirelessly to correct the
2:26:51
perception that, John, that the
Convention of States is seeking
2:26:56
to change the US Constitution,
nothing could be further from
2:26:59
the truth. As we want to simply
propose amendments to the
2:27:02
Constitution and stick to the
three subjects of term limits,
2:27:07
fiscal restraints, and curbing
federal overreach. We are
2:27:11
already past the halfway point
to call a convention as 19
2:27:15
states have already adopted
resolutions, a total of 34 is
2:27:18
needed to call a convention.
Although John thinks this is an
2:27:22
unorganized pipe dream. We are
actually I love our producers,
2:27:29
we are actually a well organized
group of regular people
2:27:32
volunteering part of our own
time, talent and treasure to
2:27:35
something that can positively
change the country in a
2:27:38
desperately needed way. It's
been a long road to get to this
2:27:41
point, especially since a lot of
people cling to the fear that
2:27:44
this will jeopardize the
Constitution. It will not. And
2:27:47
what they don't know is that
this country has a history of
2:27:50
state conventions. We still use
them today to negotiate water
2:27:53
rights. Miss characterizing the
movement as a constitutional
2:27:56
convention, when it's really an
amendment proposing convention,
2:28:00
is what the enemies of the
people No, that's me, are an
2:28:04
enemy of the people. John, I
know that neither of you are
2:28:08
enemies of the people. That was
your worst out, but felt it was
2:28:12
necessary to bring this to your
attention so that you guys could
2:28:14
continue to be informed at the
highest level of information. It
2:28:17
is also my duty to do so. Thank
you both for your own tireless
2:28:21
efforts for the cause of
liberty. I'll catch you in the
2:28:24
morning. 70 threes, November 7,
Delta Romeo kilo, there you go.
2:28:28
There you go. So now you know,
2:28:30
John C Dvorak: I appreciate that
kind of note.
2:28:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a great
note and then had explained I'm
2:28:34
all for this Constitutional
Convention of States and we'll
2:28:37
John C Dvorak: see how it goes.
I
2:28:39
Adam Curry: got the halfway
there. Halfway there.
2:28:42
John C Dvorak: Oh, goodness, new
got cyber attack. last clip,
2:28:46
which is kind of interesting. I
also have a George Galloway
2:28:49
tirade in front of Parliament,
which I thought was decent.
2:28:52
Let's do that
2:28:52
Adam Curry: one first, and then
the cyber a clip. Okay, George
2:28:55
Galloway. Now he's the commie.
2:28:58
John C Dvorak: No, no, no,
you're taking another guy. Oh,
2:29:01
he's Galloway.
2:29:02
Adam Curry: Galloway just won
his district and he's in the
2:29:06
army.
2:29:07
John C Dvorak: Well, he's, well,
he could be but he's a commie in
2:29:10
the same way that that Claire's
a communist is
2:29:12
Adam Curry: a three minute,
three minute clip. What is a
2:29:16
three minute clip?
2:29:20
John C Dvorak: It looks minute
and B it looks
2:29:21
Adam Curry: it looks Miss clip
to let me say the truth
2:29:24
Unknown: is the our country is
in very real danger of falling
2:29:29
into the trap of Mussolini going
around the world threatening
2:29:34
people with Germany's army. Our
politicians go around the world
2:29:39
threatening people with
America's Army. But there's a
2:29:42
big change coming. Madam Deputy
Speaker. They don't like it on
2:29:48
either side of the aisle. But
President Trump is coming back
2:29:53
in November, and he doesn't much
fancy the NATO. He doesn't
2:29:59
intend And to send American
soldiers to die for CO pianist
2:30:04
or for the Zelinsky regime in
gear. He has no intention
2:30:09
whatsoever of continuing the war
in Ukraine and I heard the
2:30:14
member, senior member of the
House say, if America withdraws
2:30:19
from NATO, we're going to have
to increase our contribution to
2:30:24
5%, six, maybe 7% of GDP. These
people seriously imagine that
2:30:32
they'll continue NATO without
the United States of America.
2:30:37
What kind of NATO without would
really be Gilbert and Sullivan,
2:30:41
unless, of course, we are going
to devote not 50 billion of our
2:30:47
public treasure, but hundreds of
billions of our public treasure
2:30:53
on defense. Well, have any of
these people seen the state of
2:30:57
the public realm in Britain?
Have they seen the state of the
2:31:02
National Health Service? Have
they seen the state of our
2:31:06
streets or public buildings, or
public transport? Have they seen
2:31:11
the wage packets being earned in
this country? Have they seen
2:31:16
pensioner poverty? Have they
seen your poverty in action?
2:31:21
Have they met people that have
to choose between eating and
2:31:26
eating? And these fools want to
spend not 50 billion, but
2:31:31
hundreds of billions on weapons
of war, that we're going to
2:31:36
fight with an army that could
fit into Villa Park 70,000
2:31:41
soldiers can fit into a single
football stadium. And
2:31:50
Adam Curry: he was also on the
Big Brother, I think, wasn't it?
2:31:53
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Yeah, I
2:31:54
Adam Curry: think it was, I
think it was on the Big Brother
2:31:56
show.
2:31:59
John C Dvorak: But it was that
that was a decent, right? I have
2:32:02
I have their day. You know,
their predict everyone's getting
2:32:04
ready for Trump. It's like
they're getting ready for Trump.
2:32:08
Trump. I don't see how he's not
going to get in. I mean, now
2:32:11
you're gonna let Biden in again.
Oh, nervous woman.
2:32:14
Adam Curry: I have boots on the
ground from uza where that's our
2:32:19
producers name uza WUSA regular
troops on the ground from France
2:32:24
Germany and Poland have arrived
by rail and air to chair Cassie.
2:32:29
South of key of substantial
force. No numbers have been
2:32:32
leaked yet. They're being housed
in schools. For all practical
2:32:36
practical purposes. This is a
NATO force. Let the games begin.
2:32:40
Mr. King's House business cards
will be in great demand whoever
2:32:44
that is. So yeah, so we've got
NATO troops on the ground. And
2:32:51
everyone's talking conscription
everywhere going to war. Wow, I
2:32:57
gotta get Christina out of
there. I would say I gotta get
2:33:01
her out of there. This is
2:33:02
John C Dvorak: she's not gonna
get conscripted. Well,
2:33:04
Adam Curry: not yet. But you
know, they'll have look they
2:33:08
took young girls are now
fighting for Ukraine young
2:33:13
Ukrainian girls. Yes, well,
we're
2:33:17
John C Dvorak: gonna do
everything we can to kill
2:33:18
everyone who's Ukrainian. That's
what we're doing now.
2:33:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, so we can move
in.
2:33:23
John C Dvorak: All right,
sidebar. Gil can move and we're
2:33:25
not moving
2:33:26
Adam Curry: cargo is already
know we need Cargill workers.
2:33:28
That's true. Cargill is already
executives. Exactly. And we need
2:33:31
to steal that Russian money. So
we bolster our SWIFT system.
2:33:37
Good idea. All right, cyber
attack. Last news. And before we
2:33:40
take our break here, Homeland
Security
2:33:42
Unknown: will soon be requiring
companies working in critical
2:33:44
infrastructure to report cyber
attacks to the government in a
2:33:47
timely manner. Otherwise, the
company could face fines more
2:33:51
from employers, Jenna McLaughlin
2:33:52
2022, Congress passed a law that
would require owners and
2:33:55
operators of us critical
infrastructure to report cyber
2:33:58
incidents to the Department of
Homeland Security cybersecurity
2:34:01
agency Sissa. That includes
everything from the power grid
2:34:05
to oil and gas pipelines. Now,
Cisco is releasing an initial
2:34:09
version of those specific rules
or a Notice of Proposed
2:34:11
Rulemaking. Companies will have
72 hours to share cyber
2:34:15
incidents and 24 hours after
making a ransom payment to a
2:34:18
cyber criminal group, since the
expects over 300,000
2:34:21
organizations will be
accountable to the new rules. If
2:34:24
companies fail to comply, they
could be subpoenaed or referred
2:34:27
to the Justice Department for
potential civil action. The
2:34:30
government believes these rules
are vital during a time of
2:34:33
rampant cyber attacks against US
companies. Yeah.
2:34:37
John C Dvorak: So the government
got sick of waiting to have this
2:34:40
government corporate, you know,
agreement that was going on
2:34:44
during the Obama administration.
We discussed it all the time.
2:34:48
And then we can keep with you
maybe this is proprietary, you
2:34:51
know, unless you know everything
we're up to. And now they said
2:34:54
okay, we waited too long enough.
We're just gonna pass a law rule
2:34:58
and you're gonna have to do it
or you're gonna get fined Big
2:35:00
time after 72 hours if you don't
join, you know as Sisa this
2:35:04
bullcrap operations, that's not
going to do anything anyway.
2:35:08
This is this is a horrible.
2:35:11
Adam Curry: Actually I have two
more quick things to discuss
2:35:14
before we break. The Have you
heard this outfit? All sides.com
2:35:22
Sounds like a rainbow news
outfit to me. But they had they
2:35:26
declare now based upon Gallup
polling that LGBTQ plus voters
2:35:32
will actually decide the 2024
presidential election. Because
2:35:38
over the past decade, voters
identifying as LGBTQ plus have
2:35:42
more than doubled. What's more,
this group is growing. The LGBTQ
2:35:48
plus demographic is now a larger
voting bloc than the suburban
2:35:51
white mothers that pundits love
to discuss on election night.
2:35:55
Why Wow, this is so you know,
what's happening is kids are
2:36:00
afraid not to say oh, yeah, I'm
queer, right? We're, they're
2:36:06
afraid to say they're straight.
But if you really think the
2:36:10
Williams Institute recently
noted this increase as well
2:36:12
reporting that among younger
Americans 14.9% in the 18 to 24
2:36:18
and 8.8% in the 25 to 34 cohorts
identify as LGBTQ plus. And what
2:36:26
does that mean? Well, now we go
to Sarah, the Gentile, who says
2:36:31
Hi, Adam and John, I'm a
professor at a private
2:36:33
university in the south Hello,
once again, best producers in
2:36:38
the universe. I wonder she's a
clinical professor, professor at
2:36:43
a private university in the
south and adjunct at a big 10
2:36:46
University in the Midwest. Every
spring in my big 10 appointment,
2:36:50
all faculty have to complete the
title 10 And Title Nine
2:36:54
training. These are usually 45
minute training modules are
2:36:58
mandated reporting assault on
campus and how we are to help
2:37:02
students experiencing students
experiencing those situations
2:37:06
etc. I've completed scores of
these over the years and they've
2:37:09
always been the same. The same
Narrator same situation, same
2:37:13
videos this year, or this year,
however, there's a notable
2:37:16
difference that gays are gone.
Take, for example, this
2:37:21
statistic shared in one of the
modules quote 13% of students
2:37:25
reported non consensual sexual
contact by physical force or
2:37:29
inability to consent rates were
significantly higher for women
2:37:33
and the T GQN. Students. This is
a new acronym TGQ N, which
2:37:40
stands for transgender women
transgender men, nine bit non
2:37:44
binary gender queer, gender
questioning or gender not
2:37:47
listed. You guys called it
months ago, the gays are gone.
2:37:54
There was no reference to
lesbians or gays. They have been
2:37:57
completely erased, not one
mentioned in this entire
2:38:01
training. This was not the case
last spring when I had to take
2:38:04
the same training. Whatever
starts in the university will
2:38:07
always trickle down and out. So
expect to see T GQN. Soon
2:38:12
enough.
2:38:14
John C Dvorak: We'll keep an eye
out for it. We had that clip a
2:38:17
couple of shows ago with the
girl who is bitching lesbian tic
2:38:22
tock or who is bitching about
what's going on? And she this
2:38:25
basically mirrors what she let
2:38:27
Adam Curry: me tell you, the gay
guys I know are there. They're
2:38:31
angry about this stuff. They are
pissed off. They are like this
2:38:35
is insane. And you know what?
The gays can save us, the gays,
2:38:41
the gays will save us? Yes, they
will. And in a rare moment of
2:38:45
camaraderie the gays and the
lesbians will actually join
2:38:49
together. Which is not true that
would be rare. But they've got
2:38:54
to they've got to save
themselves. Unbelievable. And
2:38:58
with that happy news, I'd like
to thank you for your courage
2:39:01
say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in the
2:39:03
Convention of States ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:39:05
on the other end the one and
only Mr. John
2:39:10
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr.
Adam curry in the morning ships
2:39:12
and sea boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water and
2:39:16
the Danes and the Knights out
there and
2:39:18
Adam Curry: all the gays in the
morning to you Hello, trolls.
2:39:20
Hold on Hold up. All right,
we've gone up a little bit here
2:39:27
we had 1552 and the last troll
count we did on a Thursday 1576
2:39:32
Is your troll counter today. And
we are very happy to have our
2:39:36
trolls there in the troll room
at troll room.io or, or you can
2:39:41
join them by going to podcast
apps.com and getting a modern
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podcast app. Now when I tweet,
we got a new thing called
2:39:48
episodes.fm. So when I tweet out
the link to the show and you
2:39:52
click on that link, it brings up
a list of 30 apps. And right
2:39:56
there you can choose which app
you want to use Uh, yeah, this
2:40:01
is another podcasting 2.0
innovation. They just keep on
2:40:04
coming. Unbelievable. Well, it
is it is because these are
2:40:08
people who care about freedom of
speech, and make sure that
2:40:11
you're not stifled by Silicon
Valley. But there no will be.
2:40:17
Well, we won't be. There's no
way they can't. We are
2:40:20
unstoppable. Now, of course,
we're poor, but we're
2:40:23
unstoppable. And we're very
proud of it. Also, you get
2:40:27
updated within 90 seconds of a
podcast posting its new episode,
2:40:31
certainly this one and other
smart podcasts. But there's a
2:40:35
hundreds of 1000s of them who
are using the new system, all
2:40:38
part of podcasting. 2.0 We are a
value for value podcast, which
2:40:44
we started probably we get is
going to be is going to be 17
2:40:47
years in October. Yeah.
2:40:49
John C Dvorak: Any minute. Wow.
That's unbelievable.
2:40:53
Adam Curry: Hey, it isn't your
birthday soon to
2:40:55
John C Dvorak: my birthday is
coming up on April 5. We'll be
2:40:58
looking forward to that. And
it'll be the day after the
2:41:00
wedding. Yeah,
2:41:01
Adam Curry: we're taking that
with April 4, which is a
2:41:03
Thursday. Correct. It's a
Thursday by Washington married
2:41:06
on Thursday, not getting married
in the church.
2:41:09
John C Dvorak: They're getting
married. They're getting
2:41:11
independent. Think of another
Universal Life Church marriage,
2:41:15
as far as I can tell. So
2:41:17
Adam Curry: universal? Yeah, I
know. I'm a minister. I'm a
2:41:21
minister, Minister, Minister of
the universal and I'm a Doctor
2:41:23
of Divinity. And well, you're
this boss, above boss. Always,
2:41:27
always.
2:41:27
John C Dvorak: So I do want to
mention that when we get to the
2:41:30
donation segment, when I
mentioned in advance, do not
2:41:33
read the first name on there and
give it to me because that name
2:41:36
should be anonymous, but it's
listed on there. That would be a
2:41:39
bad thing to say. We
2:41:40
Adam Curry: don't want to have
anything bad happen here. So I
2:41:43
will not I will not pass
2:41:44
John C Dvorak: it to me. And
I'll read from his note. I'll
2:41:47
Adam Curry: pass it to you. Let
me just see. The very first one.
2:41:50
Not not Yeah, the very
2:41:51
John C Dvorak: first one, that
one right at the top. Okay, I
2:41:53
want this got no note.
2:41:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got it. I
will not mention it at all.
2:41:57
Blank it out. So value for value
means that we are not part of
2:42:03
the podcast industrial complex,
which is not doing so well.
2:42:07
Actually. There have been
moments it has.
2:42:11
John C Dvorak: It's not today,
but it has his moments.
2:42:13
Adam Curry: Well, and Bill Maher
is about to make the biggest
2:42:16
mistake of his life. No, yes. He
started a podcast network. Oh,
2:42:22
plea?
2:42:22
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yeah, there
goes money. That's where I guess
2:42:25
he's making too much money. So
throw it away. Yep.
2:42:27
Adam Curry: So it's, it's going
to be the guest
2:42:30
John C Dvorak: network? Yes. If
he had never heard of such a
2:42:33
thing, the club
2:42:34
Adam Curry: random studios
network. And he will be hosting
2:42:40
as he seek it seeks to host
podcasts built on an idea of
2:42:44
freedom of expression. Hmm.
Okay. And he starting with that
2:42:50
ESPN lady. He's hired her to
Sage Steele. She was for ESPN
2:42:58
Sports Center. The day after
there was some free speech
2:43:02
lawsuits. I don't remember what
that was about. But anyway, we
2:43:06
would be perfect for that
network if we thought they would
2:43:09
work. But that they don't, then
I'll tell you why. Because you
2:43:13
get into the network. And it was
like, Oh, it's great. You know,
2:43:15
you're gonna get publicity and
be a part of Bill Maher system.
2:43:18
Oh, great. Great, great. And
then all the advertising goes to
2:43:21
Bill Maher show. Or maybe one
other you know, one other one.
2:43:26
This
2:43:27
John C Dvorak: show gets
popular. Yeah, this happens.
2:43:29
This happened. We've witnesses
both witness why witnesses with
2:43:32
your network. You're the one
that was doing a network. Even
2:43:36
though you now decry it. Yes. I
also see it on Leo's network.
2:43:40
And these are networks I decry.
Yours was a little more
2:43:42
aggressive to
2:43:43
Adam Curry: decry it because we
raised $65 million, and nobody
2:43:46
made any money. Hello. And
2:43:48
John C Dvorak: all the way the
kicker is and you probably
2:43:51
wouldn't say this as easy as I
can. Every buddy complained all
2:43:56
the time now GAC am I'm not
making more money, how come
2:43:59
they're emphasizing this and not
that every one of you had all
2:44:02
these famous podcasters working
there, and they all complained
2:44:06
and they didn't complain a
little they complained all the
2:44:10
time. Yeah, and that's what Bill
Maher is gonna get down. That's
2:44:14
why we had aggravating
complaints. That's why you
2:44:18
Adam Curry: have a podcast
relations manager the worst job
2:44:21
in the company. When Richard was
his name Richard forgot the end
2:44:27
for a while that we had Aaron
Aaron was running it and he gave
2:44:30
up the just like, I gotta leave
this job. You couldn't pay
2:44:34
anybody enough to deal with the
aggravation and the crying that
2:44:37
goes on, which is why these
podcasts and eventually they
2:44:41
they unionize and then your to
completely screw
2:44:45
John C Dvorak: Oh, then your
host shuttered shut it shut it
2:44:48
down shutter, the ringer,
2:44:50
Adam Curry: they just unionized.
The rager it's all over. It
2:44:54
doesn't work. You cannot
monetize the network. Just take
2:44:57
it from me. Spotify spent $2
billion so Oh, we didn't get any
2:45:01
of that goodness. Of course. I
mean, we should have honestly we
2:45:04
somebody should have at least
hired us for a couple mil and
2:45:08
then fired us. But no, no. You
know why? Because we speak
2:45:11
truth. Truth to Power. That's
why are we speaking truth to
2:45:16
power? Joe?
2:45:18
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
much power is listening to the
2:45:19
show, but we're speaking to
somebody.
2:45:23
Adam Curry: somebody's out
there. Oh, they're speaking
2:45:25
truth to me. All right. So
instead, we opted for the value
2:45:29
for value model, which is
actually it's pretty good. If
2:45:32
you can keep your costs low. IE,
we don't have Neumann mics. Now.
2:45:37
We run the whole thing on a $500
rode rode mixer. Mic and that
2:45:43
little b. What's that? Beelink
computer.
2:45:47
John C Dvorak: I didn't know I
use a NOC. We run a we run this
2:45:52
thing on the Intel NIC an old
2:45:53
Adam Curry: one. We run this on
a Beelink and NOC and a $500.
2:45:56
Road mixer. Okay.
2:45:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a
scarlet.
2:46:02
Adam Curry: That's where we run
this thing on and I got a couple
2:46:04
panels on the wall. All right.
That's how we run it. And
2:46:08
luckily, we have people who
provide value back to us when
2:46:11
they say you know, I got some
value from the show. I laughed.
2:46:14
I cried. I got mad. I learned
something I got it. I learned
2:46:18
something about the markets. I
could make some money there.
2:46:21
Save my life. Hello COVID Lots
of stuff because you back time,
2:46:27
talent or treasure? All three of
them are valid. So we have
2:46:31
people running servers people do
you know what people doing art
2:46:34
for us? Let's talk about that
for a second. We have artists
2:46:37
who continuously love to make
artwork. While we're doing the
2:46:42
show live this it really is one
of the coolest things. And
2:46:47
actually I was on Oh, you're
gonna get asked I was on the
2:46:49
union of the unwanted you have
to go on the show. Have you
2:46:53
heard of this podcast but
2:46:54
John C Dvorak: it's a union of
the my unwanted but you unwanted
2:46:57
who's unwanted? Well, that's
2:46:58
Adam Curry: why I always was
against this show. And I don't
2:47:00
want to I'm not unwanted. I'm
very wanted. I'm loved.
2:47:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we want you
however
2:47:05
Adam Curry: this is. This is an
essence. It's a zoom call with
2:47:09
like 12 or 13 people. And they
all and they all have podcasts,
2:47:13
Sam Tripoli, they remember the
guy who I called the the
2:47:17
sidekick. And then people like,
I'm not donating because yeah, I
2:47:21
got the same name of the
podcasters. By the way, Sam and
2:47:25
Adam. were texting all the time.
Now. We're buds. You guys should
2:47:29
be buds. Graham was on there
from Green
2:47:33
John C Dvorak: is angling for my
job. Let's face it. Who? Sam?
2:47:36
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's
2:47:38
Adam Curry: an interesting idea.
I like that. I like that. Oh.
2:47:44
John, I said on the show, I said
without John or without Adam.
2:47:48
There is no agenda. It's just
there is no one. There's no no
2:47:52
one. I know that this. Without
either one of us. The show
2:47:56
doesn't work. It would just have
to end so Don't die on me yet.
2:47:58
Oh, man. And I'll do the same.
Because there's a lot of a lot
2:48:03
of show left in us until 2028
Then, then we definitely have to
2:48:06
anyway, we
2:48:07
John C Dvorak: can go off our
merry ways. And our publishing
2:48:10
company running. Well by then we
have a Kindle.
2:48:15
Adam Curry: I mean, what else?
What more do you need? I don't
2:48:20
know what I'm gonna do. But
yeah, here we go. What should I
2:48:22
do
2:48:22
John C Dvorak: here and you get
plenty ideas.
2:48:25
Adam Curry: But none of them
make money. That's the problem.
2:48:28
Podcasting is demonetised
podcasting. 2.0 is great, but
2:48:31
it's zero money. It's just it's
for legacy for the children.
2:48:36
That's the only reason I do it.
Anyway. These guys, all of them
2:48:39
have their own podcast like the
Liberty lockdown. I mean, it's
2:48:43
all great podcast. And they all
listen to no agenda. They love
2:48:48
us. They love you, and they want
to have you on the show. And I
2:48:52
would I would recommend you do
it. I could do that show. Sure.
2:48:56
I think you'll really enjoy it.
I had a good time. I wasn't sure
2:49:00
what to expect and had a good
time. Anyway, back to a value
2:49:04
for value we want. Many of them
use value for value. They love
2:49:08
it. Yeah, well, they should
guess. And then they also
2:49:12
they're all poor. But they love
2:49:14
John C Dvorak: that. Well, it's
because sometimes the email goes
2:49:17
astray.
2:49:19
Adam Curry: People have to say
the email was really important.
2:49:21
There's so many podcasts and
things you can pay attention to.
2:49:24
I mean, when when did he is in
your algo. Sometimes people
2:49:27
forget we have a podcast and we
need to be supported and then
2:49:30
when the algos because that's
what it is. Just oh he used the
2:49:35
word killing. Well throw that to
junk. Get rid of that and
2:49:40
probably went to promotions
which
2:49:41
John C Dvorak: is even funner
funny episode went to promotions
2:49:43
that shouldn't have.
2:49:45
Adam Curry: We want to thank
Darren, who provides a lot of
2:49:48
our standby this but a lot of
time and talent that Darren
2:49:52
provides to the show. He does
the rock world pre show before
2:49:55
every single Thursday in
Sunday's broadcast. And prize
2:49:58
John C Dvorak: you didn't say
that the Korean Devorah in the
2:50:00
corner there was too small.
2:50:03
Adam Curry: It was we talked
about this for quite a while. We
2:50:05
didn't
2:50:06
John C Dvorak: talk about that
you never mentioned it. Okay,
2:50:08
you give Darren a lot of leeway.
2:50:11
Adam Curry: These Darren O'Neal
you know, his music tastes sucks
2:50:15
but Darren is a good guy. Now
okay, so we chose Darren ISIS K
2:50:22
with the only thing I didn't
like about it was the hand
2:50:24
grenade I
2:50:25
John C Dvorak: was more
disturbing like I didn't mind
2:50:27
the hand grenade at all is ISIS
k which is like a
2:50:29
Adam Curry: Special K packaging
classic. No agenda, spoof art.
2:50:33
We love those 33% More psyops
works for me and then the hand
2:50:38
grenade Now, other things that
we looked at. I really, I really
2:50:44
liked Scarah mangas meat food.
2:50:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked it
too. But it was again it was it
2:50:49
was time it was way too small.
It
2:50:51
Adam Curry: was too small and
then as you imbuing into it you
2:50:53
see like some Chinese some Asian
cook Yeah, but it turned out
2:50:57
John C Dvorak: to be racist.
Yeah, it
2:50:58
Adam Curry: says really good. We
were okay with the racism
2:51:02
actually, but you couldn't read
it from afar and was newcomer
2:51:05
food
2:51:05
John C Dvorak: well, we weren't
that good with it. We always
2:51:08
picked it no he said no one had
gone with Rarey good sunshine
2:51:15
laughing Chinese guy I'm sorry
Should I have put it properly a
2:51:19
laughing Chinaman still gonna
work I'm still laughing when I
2:51:23
see it and like it was good.
It's very funny to look at
2:51:27
Adam Curry: we also we looked at
networks Toshiba laptop, which
2:51:32
was it was in the running for
sure. And honestly, I think that
2:51:36
the the I actually use that for
the pre stream art this morning
2:51:39
people stopped making pre stream
art. They used to do cool art
2:51:43
for me to post when when we go
live and they stopped doing that
2:51:48
for some reason. Well, I
2:51:50
John C Dvorak: did use I will
say yeah, I know where they
2:51:52
used. I used I will I use the
most compelling piece that was
2:51:57
on here which was an AI
generated art piece of but it's
2:52:02
a girl who is she's the kind of
woman that does exist in the
2:52:06
real world I would have nothing
to do with anybody who does this
2:52:09
show or listen to this show. You
can just tell and comic strip
2:52:14
blogger did it and he needs to
get some he's gotten it down
2:52:18
pretty well to create this this
sort of thing. These the buttons
2:52:22
didn't help either.
2:52:23
Adam Curry: Comic Strip but no,
it did not. That's there's
2:52:27
another reason why the
newsletter got sent to spam.
2:52:30
This blatant sexual. That
2:52:32
John C Dvorak: was not in the
newsletter. It was just in the
2:52:34
post. Okay.
2:52:37
Adam Curry: Well still still do
better.
2:52:39
John C Dvorak: Are you making it
up?
2:52:42
Adam Curry: What else was there?
Behind whale poop stuff?
2:52:47
Unknown: There?
2:52:48
Adam Curry: I don't know why.
fat lady all of a sudden some AI
2:52:51
fat is not
2:52:52
John C Dvorak: fat. She's not
found that was, you know what a
2:52:55
fat lady looks is that's not
what we're thinking about. Very,
2:52:58
very little. Very odd.
Basically, you know, five pounds
2:53:02
overweight is
2:53:03
Adam Curry: bad. And I don't
think anything else really did.
2:53:06
John C Dvorak: Now. I think that
cut well, we
2:53:08
Adam Curry: did talk a bit about
the no agenda racing team car
2:53:12
battery. Talked about that. But
that really didn't.
2:53:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it wasn't
compelling. Yes, workss networks
2:53:19
is on a downward spiral.
2:53:23
Adam Curry: Tina just texted me.
She's in a dress in a gown and
2:53:27
she says I'm ready to meet
Trump. She's at Mar a Lago
2:53:31
tonight. You
2:53:32
John C Dvorak: know, Trump is in
New York at the at the cops
2:53:35
funeral. Now I know he's not
there. So he's not going to be
2:53:39
at Mara Lago A. And meanwhile,
cop. Trump is going to the cops
2:53:43
funeral and Biden is going to a
donation fundraiser. A
2:53:48
fundraiser he's not even to see
the dead policeman. And it's and
2:53:52
I got a number. Anyway, I got a
number out of this. I got a
2:53:55
couple of numbers. Rhonda
McDaniel is going to be paid
2:53:57
$300,000. That was her fee for
MSNBC. But for $100,000 at the
2:54:05
fundraiser, you can get your
picture taken with Biden, Obama
2:54:10
and Clinton in the same shot. So
they're going to set up a photo
2:54:12
booth. The three of you will be
there you go in $100,000. Check.
2:54:16
Boom. Here's a picture taken or
if anyone sees one of those
2:54:19
pictures on the wall somewhere.
That guy's an idiot. Okay.
2:54:25
Adam Curry: Anyway, Tina will
have boots on the ground from
2:54:27
Mar Lago for me. I've never been
this big. You know who's at her
2:54:34
table?
2:54:36
John C Dvorak: You told us
already but just in case I
2:54:38
forgot
2:54:39
Adam Curry: it. Just so you
know. That was an off air
2:54:40
conversation. Oh,
2:54:42
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that. Yeah. James O'Keefe. Oh,
2:54:46
that's right. Yeah. That should
be interesting. Yeah.
2:54:49
Adam Curry: I wonder if he's
going to be wearing his gay
2:54:51
disguise.
2:54:52
John C Dvorak: He's going to be
filming it. I can't. I'm
2:54:55
Adam Curry: very uncomfortable
with what he's doing. It feels
2:54:58
so mean. Now he's silenced and
poor
2:55:02
John C Dvorak: Yes Honey, we're
2:55:03
Adam Curry: how honey potting
these poor games sell
2:55:05
John C Dvorak: gay guys. homely
gay guys in sell gay guys
2:55:10
looking for any attention
whatsoever that's not good.
2:55:12
Adam Curry: No, it's not. So
anyway, he's just short
2:55:17
John C Dvorak: of wearing one of
those old Groucho Marx.
2:55:19
mustaches. Phony knows exactly
2:55:23
Adam Curry: what it looks like.
Anyway, thank you very much
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our executive and Associate
Executive Producers first. These
2:55:55
are $200 and above and John's
gonna kick it off.
2:55:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have a
not necessarily perfect
2:56:03
anonymous guy is in Texas for
$20.69 but I will read his note
2:56:09
starts off he's kind of one of
these guys. What do you have two
2:56:13
weirdos?
2:56:14
Adam Curry: No, I know exactly.
Well, he's for 2069 So okay,
2:56:19
John C Dvorak: yeah 2016 in
yellow on the show but I saw on
2:56:24
your Yankee looking site that
you mentioned my name on the
2:56:28
show if I donate over 50 I do
want do not want to be named.
2:56:34
This guy doesn't want to be
named but he sent an email in
2:56:37
over the years where he's named
okay. No need for recognizing a
2:56:43
mooch who had been listening
since I first heard Adam on the
2:56:46
Joe Rogan experience a while ago
There you go Rogen big fan of
2:56:50
this show and appreciate you
guys you guys make me laugh stay
2:56:54
gay.
2:56:58
Adam Curry: Okay, anonymous
anonymous. Yeah, shoot you know
2:57:03
jingles nothing else there. No,
it was it. We move on to Brandon
2:57:07
Johnson Parts Unknown 403 dot
33. He has a long handwritten
2:57:13
note but I shall read by
2:57:14
John C Dvorak: the way. This is
another donation that is
2:57:17
problematic like the one we just
read. Because he had sent in his
2:57:21
site supposedly sending a
certified letter with a donation
2:57:25
and never got through and we
went back and forth and back and
2:57:28
forth. And finally it came in.
And then he Rice's unreadable
2:57:32
note I can read it. Okay, if you
can read it, you can read it.
2:57:36
Adam Curry: Yes. Brandon Johnson
ITM gents thank you for your
2:57:39
courage. Firstly, everyone
listening to this needs to check
2:57:41
their conscience and contribute
one of the three T's karma will
2:57:45
take note and peg you back in
kind. Yes, yeah, I'm speaking
2:57:51
from personal experience as my
first treasure donation was a
2:57:54
show number donation for episode
1601. I expected nothing in
2:57:58
return. By the way that we do
the same. We give the value we
2:58:01
expect nothing in return. It
comes but we expect nothing. And
2:58:05
we're right. Most of you don't
send anything. All I asked for
2:58:08
from the universe was house
selling karma. And literally the
2:58:11
day that my tithing was
accepted. We sold our house that
2:58:16
morning I woke up seeing threes
everywhere. So what should come
2:58:19
as no surprise at all worked
out? Signs are all over if you
2:58:23
simply pay attention. Second,
please revert back to my first
2:58:28
point. If you value the show and
appreciate the insight of our
2:58:31
two gracious hosts Adam and John
that do not take them for
2:58:34
granted. All of us producers
must contribute time talent or
2:58:37
treasure to keep this train
rolling. Lastly, this completes
2:58:43
my knighthood and I would like
my name to be sir Rev. Joseph
2:58:46
James plus the 33 Joseph James
the 33rd Sir Rev. Joseph James
2:58:51
the 33rd Please and thank you oh
Blanton single barrel bourbon at
2:59:00
the roundtable. Okay, yeah, if I
could also humbly request baby
2:59:05
making karma for me and my
smokin hot wife of 21 years
2:59:09
along with the following jingles
Oh, I didn't see any of this.
2:59:12
Okay, donate. I got the I got
the donate. I got the donate.
2:59:20
Sorry, this part I wasn't quite
rude. Yes. Okay. J donate 33 is
2:59:26
the magic number. Okay. Magic
number got that one. And little
2:59:33
girl Yay. Oh my goodness. Okay.
And the Go podcasting. Okay,
2:59:38
well, I think I think we can do
all of that. Keep up the great
2:59:42
work gentleman Godspeed.
Sincerely yours a fateful night.
2:59:46
PS was you say here this is kind
of a funny note. PS. In light of
2:59:53
the good news jingle. I'd like
to share this quote. The world
2:59:57
isn't getting
3:00:03
something or darker. I guess the
world isn't getting darker the
3:00:07
veil sheltering you from reality
is being lifted.
3:00:11
Unknown: Whoo
3:00:12
Adam Curry: All right very nice.
You've got Dog Dog Parma
3:00:26
Unknown: does the magic the
magic number
3:00:34
Adam Curry: no one there we go
and your baby karma All right.
3:00:44
Did it all did it all did it
all. I had one miscue sorry
3:00:47
about that Tara
3:00:48
John C Dvorak: comics. Fort
Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada.
3:00:53
333 Paris of Canada.
3:00:55
Adam Curry: What do I hear in
the background over there? Ah,
3:00:58
okay.
3:00:59
John C Dvorak: What you're
hearing is they've decided
3:01:02
because of the potholes. Say
later, my new tire if
3:01:06
Adam Curry: you complain about
the potholes, yeah, I complain
3:01:09
about
3:01:09
John C Dvorak: the pot but no,
they're dead. What you're
3:01:12
hearing is a machine that is
shaving the road for the
3:01:19
repaving Oh, so
3:01:21
Adam Curry: they're fixing the
fixing potholes locally, they're
3:01:24
John C Dvorak: going well, this
is not where the potholes are
3:01:27
the potholes. The potholes that
are dangerous are on the
3:01:29
freeway. Stop
3:01:30
Adam Curry: complaining. They're
fixing it for you. Well,
3:01:33
John C Dvorak: they're making a
lot of noise as you can tell,
3:01:35
they are there. Anyway, Alberta,
Canada 333. It's interesting
3:01:40
that we got no classic three,
three 3.33 donations on this
3:01:44
show. In fact, we only had a
total of 43 donations over 50
3:01:48
bucks which is really low for
Thursday. And tower comic says
3:01:54
thanks for the deconstruction
Can I get a D douchey
3:01:58
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
For
3:02:00
John C Dvorak: my buddy Blaze,
and he would like an R two d two
3:02:04
karma and a jingle Amen fist
bump. Yeah, we
3:02:07
Adam Curry: can do that. Hey,
man fist bump. You've got karma.
3:02:17
Amy burn is in Swan ona North
Carolina. 333 She says thank you
3:02:22
for making me laugh when there's
so much grim news. By the way,
3:02:27
if you've been listening to this
podcast the whole way through
3:02:30
and you haven't laughed once
never listen again. It is it is
3:02:33
hard if you don't laugh at least
once during the show then we
3:02:36
fail. Really enjoyed Adams
testimony no bells are karma.
3:02:40
All right, thank you very much.
3:02:41
John C Dvorak: Yes sweet. It's
very sweet. Hey, we go to Eli
3:02:44
the camera gets her Eli that
coffee goes slips in an ad in
3:02:48
Bensenville Illinois. He's very
slight $212.12 I would like to
3:02:52
credit this donation to scare a
manga Oh for his Tree Lobster
3:02:57
art from the last show which
cracked me up so that's a
3:03:00
gruesome or not is that a
switcheroo that was just a
3:03:03
dedication. No credit he says
credit he says credit credit so
3:03:06
he gets the donation scare him
let him buy the plug is coming.
3:03:10
I had the pleasure of meeting
him at a brewery event where I
3:03:13
was selling coffee a few weeks
ago. John you were spot on in
3:03:19
the newsletter. The bridge did
fall like it was flimsy. To
3:03:23
jingles can summarize this
week's bridge collapse. Please
3:03:27
play coincidence I think not.
Followed by build back better.
3:03:32
My wife's favorite jingle
producers ruined coffee with no
3:03:36
bitter burn case. Visit gigawatt
coffee roasters.com and use the
3:03:40
code ITM 20 for 20% off your
first order. Stay caffeinated
3:03:45
Eli the coffee guy
3:03:46
Adam Curry: I will say I ran out
of black rifle this morning. And
3:03:51
so then I picked up one of their
gigawatt packs that need a
3:03:55
little more than then I would
put in the black rifle but he's
3:03:59
good at that it keeps me awake
and jolly
3:04:02
Unknown: coincidence? I think
not sort of
3:04:07
beyond your three
3:04:17
Adam Curry: Leonora Coronel
Coronel Coronel Nevada Nevada
3:04:22
City. Is it in Nevada City if
it's in California or Nevada
3:04:26
City,
3:04:27
John C Dvorak: it's still Nevada
City. 2008
3:04:31
Adam Curry: Associate Executive
Producer $21.60 ITM gentlemen my
3:04:35
smokin hot husband Gus has been
a devoted listener since I hit
3:04:38
him in the mouth and 2021 You're
a good wife, and I'm ashamed to
3:04:42
say he still hasn't gotten
around to donating. Please do do
3:04:46
Shem for his 48th birthday
tomorrow, march 29.
3:04:51
Unknown: Ben de duced
3:04:57
John C Dvorak: Linda Lubetkin
comes up and she's the fun
3:05:00
Finally Associate Executive
producer on the short list. Oh
3:05:03
sure. He's in Lakewood,
Colorado. And of course she
3:05:05
wants to jobs karma. So there's
nothing new there. She says for
3:05:08
an exceptional resume, go to
Image makers inc.com For all
3:05:11
your executive resume and job
search needs. That's image
3:05:15
makers Inc with a K. Or find
Linda Lou Potkin Duchess of jobs
3:05:19
and writer of resumes on the
producer list.
3:05:22
Unknown: There you go jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs, for jobs.
3:05:31
Adam Curry: And that is it for
executive and Associate
3:05:33
Executive producers. As you
know, the rules aren't anything
3:05:36
above 200 hours, we will read
your note, regardless of what it
3:05:39
is long as we can, we can read
it. And it's not too long and
3:05:42
it's not too crazy, but we
pretty much read them all.
3:05:45
Anything under that we pick and
choose where we can depends on
3:05:48
time depends on what the note
is. But if you really want to
3:05:50
have it read 200. Above is where
you go for your executive and
3:05:53
Associate Executive Producer
status, which are real credits.
3:05:56
Go ahead, ask Dana Brunetti
producer, Bob GranTurismo.
3:06:01
Should have been an Osprey when
you saw that movie. I am too. I
3:06:04
loved that movie. I sat there
and I said Phoebe. That was a
3:06:08
great movie. Phoebe's like Ray
3:06:11
John C Dvorak: was watching the
movie with you. Oh, yeah. Oh,
3:06:13
yeah. She loves Dino dog. I had
to mention this. Dogs can see
3:06:18
LCD screens. They never could
see a television
3:06:21
Adam Curry: set. That's right.
They'll see these screens man
3:06:23
all the difference in the dog's
life
3:06:24
John C Dvorak: when the doing
dog shows seeing cats too. So
3:06:27
dog story watch so dogs watch TV
now.
3:06:30
Adam Curry: I know. I know. It's
great. She loves it. But I just
3:06:35
especially loved like the when
they show the inside of the
3:06:37
cylinders firing and
3:06:41
John C Dvorak: the movie it does
special effects and everything
3:06:43
that but that movie was so well
produced and well done. Well
3:06:46
shot the guy you know it got it.
I think it paid out. But it was
3:06:51
like, you know,
3:06:52
Adam Curry: oh no, they made
bank upfront. It was one big
3:06:54
commercial. Oh, yes, there is no
dummies like, Hey, by the way,
3:06:59
for all you're gonna pay me in
advance, I'll do anything for
3:07:02
all the crap I gave him about 50
Shades of Grey. This really
3:07:05
makes up for it. Not in money,
but it makes up for it. Anyway,
3:07:11
we don't read anything under 50
Because people there like to
3:07:13
stay anonymous. So 4999 is
always good. Don't add any fees
3:07:17
because that will put it up over
the 50 and then we might make a
3:07:20
mistake. And of course we want
to thank everybody. And if
3:07:23
everybody did this, it would be
great if you just take out a
3:07:26
sustaining donation which is
some kind of regular thing that
3:07:29
you automatically have paid and
it can be anything you want. If
3:07:32
everybody did that, we'd be in
fat city instead. Here we are.
3:07:37
That would be the day shortlist
3:07:39
John C Dvorak: keep to idealize
the whole situation and think
3:07:42
they can do exactly what you
described. Was that oh, you know
3:07:45
if I got like $500 like No, I
only need like 10,000 people to
3:07:50
listen to the podcast. And if I
charge them each 10 bucks a
3:07:53
month. Oh yeah, that's perfect.
Because at 10 bucks a month that
3:07:57
means that's like over $100
million a year I'll make a
3:08:00
million to a year with 10,000
listeners
3:08:04
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's how
they always started. That's how
3:08:06
we started and then with our $2
donation Yeah, boy boy did we
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don't know if I ever got my got
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okay, so no, I guess we miss it.
So we're doing it now. If indeed
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I'm a baron, I want to relay my
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Oh, that's his name that I
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I missed one.
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John C Dvorak: We missed more
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missed it I missed we all missed
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We have a couple of meetups to
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In the morning Damien Mitchell,
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these mofos just arranged my
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Thanks What a wonderful meetup
tonight. Fantastic Hello here
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gotta hit him in the mouth
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Adam Curry: by the way, I'm
planning a trip I'm gonna do a
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solo trip to the Netherlands see
my daughter I think maybe the
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beginning of June so we need to
plan a meet up. I want to go to
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one of these meetups, these
people having too much fun. I
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love it. meetups happening.
Today North Georgia monthly meet
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up at six o'clock at the Cherry
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to Saturday, the Osaka Castle
cherry blossom viewing and
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amygdala shrinkage meetup
1:33pm. In Osaka Castle Park,
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Osaka, Japan I know we have a
lot of nights in Osaka. So I'm
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looking forward to a wonderful
meetup report sir bill of Osaka
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he's I've met him several times.
Of course I've also met him in
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in Tokyo. So looking forward to
your Meetup report. And then
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finally the biggest little meet
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Reno, Nevada. That'll be on
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are the no agenda meetup This is
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the meetup report. That's what
most of them were like only that
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sounds funny when you have Dutch
accents but all of these meetups
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are that enjoyable people love
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it's easy and fun sometimes
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Unknown: you go hang out with
Dyson days you will be triggered
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you will be where everybody
feels the same. Is like
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Adam Curry: and they're gonna
make it easy on Yeah, I have
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zero ISOs I don't know what
happened but I wound up with
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none. Wow. So it's gonna be one
of yours.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
have anything good I don't think
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maybe maybe Okay, let's try
let's start from the bottom here
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and go with yeesh
3:23:21
Adam Curry: He's okay, no, no,
no.
3:23:25
John C Dvorak: Okay, then go to
tragic.
3:23:27
Adam Curry: Tragic. Miss better
than yeesh Yeah,
3:23:31
John C Dvorak: it is. And then
we had somebody that submitted
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this one this is the use as a
producer submitted one this is
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the good work tick tock good
work they're tick tock. Huh,
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Adam Curry: let me hear the
tragic again.
3:23:49
Unknown: It's tragic. Good work
there. Tick tock.
3:23:54
Adam Curry: Did not you right,
none of them are really
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fantastic. Which one do you like
the most
3:23:59
John C Dvorak: like to tick tock
3:24:01
Adam Curry: tick tock. Okay, now
we'll use the good luck there.
3:24:03
Tick tock. That's good. news.
Good news. Good news. Good news.
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That's right. We're about to
send you off into your long
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weekend. We got all kinds of
wonderful things coming up and
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we want to make sure that you
leave here with a song in your
3:24:17
heart and a skipping your steps
that we bring you one good news
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clip that is guaranteed to bring
a smile to your face. John, what
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do we have today?
3:24:24
John C Dvorak: Well, today we
have a woman who was in the
3:24:30
hospital she had cancer she got
over cancer and as she was so
3:24:34
happy as she left the hospital
and i By the way, have a short
3:24:37
comment to make Mimi has a short
comment to make about this clip.
3:24:41
She's supplied this one by the
guy as she gets a proposal for
3:24:45
marriage as she gets out of the
hospital and
3:24:48
Unknown: story to brighten your
morning one woman celebrates
3:24:50
completing her final round of
chemo treatments and got a huge
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surprise this video Oh that
you're looking at is going viral
3:25:01
showing 27 year old Angelica Mae
walking out of the hospital
3:25:05
after finally beating stage two
breast cancer. Now that's
3:25:09
already going to be an
unforgettable day for her. But
3:25:12
it's what happened next. That
has people on social media
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buzzing watch.
3:25:18
Grand healing
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Adam Curry: so I just want to
say right, I love you know, one
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book. We married
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Unknown: Goodness How sweet.
That is so, so sweet. And of
3:25:42
course, she said yes. Hey, and
if you would like to send us
3:25:46
your good news story of the day,
just email us your pictures and
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your videos. To Good day. Good.
news@fox.com
3:25:52
Adam Curry: That's right. Good
day. Good news that no agenda
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show dotnet.
3:25:55
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Mimi
pointed out that what kind of a
3:25:59
douchebag asked her to get
married after she's cured of
3:26:02
cancer. That's
3:26:04
Adam Curry: what he made me
would say rescue his home in
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heavy rain
3:26:19
as it for your good news, and it
was good news. I mean, yeah, I
3:26:22
mean, I understand what she's
saying. But don't throw any. Any
3:26:28
hot coals on my goodness, shake
the throw
3:26:31
John C Dvorak: shade. And the
good news is
3:26:37
Adam Curry: we've got good news
coming up. Next on the stream
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grime America. That's the boys
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern
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Until then, adios mofos who we
who we answered.
3:27:45
Unknown: In Mississippi six
former law enforcement officers
3:27:49
Brett McAlpin, Jeffrey
Middleton, Christian Deadman
3:27:52
Hunter Aylward, Daniel Updike
and Joshua Hartfield each enter
3:27:55
the Rankin County Courthouse
risk shackles to their waist in
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jail suits. Those six officers
pleaded guilty once again. This
3:28:03
time to st charges have
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received prison terms that add
up to more than 130 years it had
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no warrant when they went to
arrest or to torture the guys in
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the house. It was simply because
they were in a house with a
3:28:17
white female and mocking,
beating and torturing them for
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more than an hour. That included
the use of stun guns and sexual
3:28:25
assault with a sex toy that you
build. Those are hideous and
3:28:29
Michael is the former officers
called themselves a goon squad
3:28:33
because of their tendency to use
excessive force and then cover
3:28:37
it up.
3:28:38
Prosecutors today describe the
heinous acts that occurred
3:28:40
during the raid on a Brexit home
the depravity of
3:28:43
the crimes committed by these
defendants cannot be overstated
3:28:47
his private parts in an attempt
to put it in the mouth of a
3:28:52
defense is so much secrecy not
only
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did they torture them they were
trying to plant drugs they
3:28:58
destroyed evidence get
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some dignity realize that people
are still a man's hands down
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perhaps graft is holding hands
and making sure
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do you understand I don't think
the Senate tools are in fact I
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think these men should all spend
the rest of their lives behind
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bars okay then if you do the
crime you gonna do to try and
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stop a US deal those things not
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effective. Still processing
everything. Fake news we're
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trying to make this 15 year olds
enough
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Pasadena blast
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definitely wasn't expecting to
see that Eclipse Ross so I mean
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this is obviously offensive for
for people who study these and
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I'm wondering whether there's
just a lightning aspect you're
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being tracked by these killers
and maybe that's why you put
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them whales I'm guessing the
bows versus whales would be
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yes yeah
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we're traveling this 15 year
olds in hospital
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fascinating blast. Thank you so
much. I know banning anymore.
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Forever NBC fake news, which is
all up in arms about hiring
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Ronna Romney McDaniel, the
former RNC chair, Michael
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Steele, who is also former RNC
chair works at MSDN seem to
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chunk former Democrat campaign
staffers whose wife is a Bernie
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Sanders campaign staffer.
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She is now a paid contributor.
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I have no idea whether any
answer she gave to you was
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because she didn't want to mess
up her country.
3:31:23
Higher. Higher, higher rung by
Ron. Ron. Ron Higher, higher.
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Higher. Higher, higher, higher.
Higher prana. Now,
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get her off the set. Chairman of
the NBC Universal News Group
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Cesar Conde
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sent a memo, rescinding hiring
of Ronna Romney McDaniel.
3:32:04
forrec.org/in a good word there.
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