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April 25th • 3h 22m

1654: e-Safety

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John C Dvorak: Oh, everything is going to be electronic.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devora April 25 2024.
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Adam Curry: This Year Award winning give our nation media
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assassination episode 1654. This is no agenda, revealing repose
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and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
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here and FEMA reached number six in the morning, everybody. I'm
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Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're
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wondering why people do weird rants while sitting in the front
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seat of their car, and Genesee Devorah. Hill?
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Adam Curry: Well, that is yes, that is the collapse of society.
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Of course. That's, that's the, we'll have that and electro
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lights. That's, that's the future. renting your car, and
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electro lights in your belly. That's it. That's it. And you
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notice everyone's always sitting on the left hand side because
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somehow their cameras always mirror them. Yeah, isn't that
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weird?
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John C Dvorak: That's true.
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Adam Curry: I don't understand. I don't understand why those
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cameras don't automatically just flip it around.
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John C Dvorak: You can flip it. I'm sure there's a button you
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can push. I
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Adam Curry: think so. You think so. But they don't.
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John C Dvorak: They don't care? No, they're in their car.
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screaming their heads off and then posting it ranting.
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Adam Curry: Yes, that's, that is what influencers do. John,
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haven't you? Haven't you heard all the kids are doing it?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we don't want to go to first person was
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this is something that has not been explored is very common.
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Who is the first person who in their car produced an online
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rant? Well, that's sitting down in the driver's seat and yakking
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away at the camera in the car, and then posting it. There's a
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number one, JFK
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Adam Curry: says the troll room? No, no, JFK is not right. Yeah,
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honestly. One of my early daily source codes I did in the car.
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There's even a picture of me in the New York Times doing a
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podcast from the car now wasn't with
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John C Dvorak: you or the Genesis wasn't? It?
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Adam Curry: Wasn't video though. It's not quite the same thing.
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ranting randomly.
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Yeah. Well, and that was never video. And it has to be I don't
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know. I don't know. That person deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Just like, maybe
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John C Dvorak: Jenna Marbles? I don't think so. Whatever
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happened to her? I
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Adam Curry: don't know what who was Jenna Marbles?
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John C Dvorak: I forget who she is. But she was one of the early
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infant online influencers. And she, she at one point, I think
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she broke down and gave up on it. And made a big guest scene.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I do remember this. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: that was she was the stage name. She wasn't
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really Jenna Marbles.
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Adam Curry: So. So that's an annoying thing. But there's
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something else that has cropped up. Well, there's a couple
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things. Do you ever go on X or any? Any social media at all
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anymore? Or is that go go away with your phone? You just threw
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that out?
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John C Dvorak: I never went on social media with my phone. No,
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I
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Adam Curry: mean, but you'd go on social media at all. You look
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at x.
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John C Dvorak: I course I look at x headline x all the time.
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Okay, so
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Adam Curry: I just gotta say something. I I don't think that
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every famous woman who's an actress or is a performer. I
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don't think they're all dudes. This is getting a little
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annoying. People keep posting pictures. Like here's Britney
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Spears. What do you notice?
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John C Dvorak: I have not I'm not in that thread here.
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Adam Curry: Every woman's that dude. Yeah. Jennifer Aniston.
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Dude, Matt. It's now Jennifer Madison is what they're calling
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her. It's really rampant. Everyone's just calling women
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dudes. Now. It's has something to do with the whole you know,
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women and men in women's sports. It's like it's a thing. So
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everybody's regression. Yes. Twisting everybody's brain. Oh,
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yeah. No, you just see a dude and everything. You got to
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question yourself if you're seeing that. Like that's a
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little concerning. And then the other one. It's between r and Y
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on your keyboard. Using this? No.
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John C Dvorak: Ah, you're keeping me up? I'm glad. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: So if you're on Twitter, and it's between r and
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Y on your keyboard, that's a T and you hit the T then it brings
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up the the menu to repost or retweet. But it but immediately
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from what I understand just a plain T. Yeah. Oh no. Do they
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have to hit Ctrl? Oh, no, it didn't. Oh, you didn't know
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that. If you go on Twitter. You can even use your J and K keys
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for up and down. And yeah, it's a complete To complete Linux,
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you want to call it vim vi vi Keymapping. You can do WordStar.
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Okay, remapping to WordStar but what it does is it creates an
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interaction on that post. So people get a hit for it or
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something. I think that's what's taking place. Tense. It's
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everyone's scam and everything that get everything get
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eyeballs, I need eyeballs. I'm an influencer and your eyeballs.
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Pay attention to me. Anyway, amidst all of this nuttiness
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that's going on, which we obviously will discuss, because
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there's four, four areas now. Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Hamas,
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Taiwan, China, tic tock. But what's happened today just kind
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of got snuck in and there wasn't a lot of chatter about it.
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Unknown: Net Neutrality is making a comeback with an FCC
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vote today. And that means that internet providers will not be
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able to speed up or even slow down certain web traffic.
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Adam Curry: I love that they're bringing this old trope back.
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Oh, it's, it's, it's so they won't be able to slow down your
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speed. Slow down your speed. Who is there anybody raise your hand
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that has a slowed connection? This is this isn't an
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anachronism. This is a thing of 510 years ago. But now they're
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still playing it off like hey, these idiots they'll believe
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anything. Yeah, man. It's slowing down by CompuServe.
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Unknown: Certain web traffic. Now new FCC rules banned
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blocking, throttling, or even disadvantaging certain content
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apps or services. They also bar prioritizing them in return for
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payment. And FCC vote under the Obama administration is what put
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net neutrality in place to begin with, you would get AOL and
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CompuServe. And services like that saying,
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Adam Curry: This isn't Eli Patel, of course, the lawyer,
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well, we provide email services,
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Unknown: and you can make websites no shopping. So we're
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more than simply utilities. And what's happened over time is
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that consumers don't want to get that stuff from their broadband
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provider. So it has been gone since 2018, due to a later FCC
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decision under the Trump administration. But this time
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around the FCC, as you just heard is taking into account
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some modern uses of smartphones and other devices. So the FCC
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says it could take a couple of months before these rules get
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put into place. Now
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Adam Curry: I want to get everybody's head on straight
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before you go. Because this is only one thing and one thing
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only which we have explained over and over again. And every
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single time we do it. It's very controversial. People come out
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of the woodwork and go, that's not this net neutrality is
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really important noon is better voice is really important, man.
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This is their will. So now your ISP will be forbidden, listen
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carefully from blocking or throttling any legal traffic,
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legal transfer again, and there will be protests and they're
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allowed to shape their traffic, and they will be able to
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throttle or block certain protocols that they do not deem
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to be legal. I can think of a few How about Tor? Tor, Tor
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John C Dvorak: gets blocked everywhere top of the list.
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Hello. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Because you know, you can set up a web server at
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home with Tor. You don't need anything, just that's the dark
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web. So that'll that'll be on deck and then torrent. They'll
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block that traffic. And actually,
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John C Dvorak: that will be that will be at the top of the list.
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Adam Curry: I think I think it'll be the first parent
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John C Dvorak: that copyright paranoia of passing around stuff
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is really
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Adam Curry: that's what it's always been for initially, but
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now you know, it's dark webs Dark Web as all dark web Dark
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Web dark web. Yeah, Tor. So go ahead, everybody have another
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drink? Do you thought that everyone thought tick tock tick
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tock tick tock. The clock is ticking on tick tock. But
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meanwhile, they're just going to be able to do anything they
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want. Well, they
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John C Dvorak: hope Wow.
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Adam Curry: I mean, it'll I mean
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John C Dvorak: they did work arounds are just there's
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Adam Curry: not really a workaround at the ISP level for
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Tor. If you want to serve Tor from your home that I don't
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think that's going to work. Oh Phoebe's okay, you're good.
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John C Dvorak: Don't think so? Tor Tor Tor Tor it's
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Adam Curry: okay you Good girl. Good job. Good job.
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John C Dvorak: By the way I should mention it to you. Oh,
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it's get a little annoying the dog is in the background
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barking. I think that dog besides the fact that she has a
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terrific bark she's got a dimension to the show that no
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other podcast has. I love it.
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Adam Curry: Okay, you're on we still have the painters here as
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always
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John C Dvorak: a double bark. Dogs do the double bark that
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means something to dogs. I don't know why but woof woof woof No,
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it's
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Adam Curry: important. She's she's got something to say
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John C Dvorak: there's a single wolf but then she'll do the damn
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Double
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Adam Curry: she does double Wolf's she's good. Good girl.
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Good job. Breaking breaking is breaking breaking hot off the
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press. The Harvey Weinstein conviction has been overturned.
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John C Dvorak: Here's Well
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Adam Curry: it's interesting. Our our lawyer, I'm just gonna
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let her bark right because you like it. Ruff ruff good Gurmeet
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John C Dvorak: is really does it's not that she's far enough
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away that it doesn't really interrupt the flow of the show.
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It just adds to the sound effect.
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Adam Curry: I can make her I mean, I could make her up.
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Maybe. Okay, be quiet now. I haven't enough. Good Camilla,
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our lawyer Rob comes in. He says it will be interesting to see
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how this plays alongside the current Trump prosecution. He
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says it could possibly help Trump depending on the outcome.
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Okay. Depending on how they how they, because this will go back
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to the court. I believe. It has to be returned to a trial court
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with a trial we'll start over again. Oh, yay. The more of
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that. And the reason why is so I take our lawyers. Word is
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important here. defendant was convicted by a jury for various
11:21
sexual crimes against three named compelling items, and on
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appeal claims that he was judged not on the Conduct for which he
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was indicted, but on irrelevant, pre judicial and untested
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allegations of prior bad acts. We conclude that the trial court
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erroneously admitted testimony of uncharged alleged prior
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sexual acts against persons other than the complainants of
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the underlying crimes. So here's New York, New York trying to you
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know, convict a former president of all kinds of stuff, and then
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letting an actual creep go. I mean, it's just too beautiful to
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believe. It really is. It's like it's what and then and so if
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eBay, good girl that worked. So even on you know, on this
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podcast, Hello, we're podcast. We give you some real
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information and how that might actually be interesting in in
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today's legal land, landscape. Other podcasts like the Midas
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touch. Well, they have collaborating with the New York
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Times and they've got some outstanding reporting on Donald
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Trump
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Unknown: turning to the court proceedings as well. Maggie
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Haberman reports that Donald Trump continued to fall asleep
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during the proceedings as well. And you know, what I'm hearing
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from my sources as well is that, you know, and I hearing from
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credible sources, who know what's going on in the
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courtroom. What I'm hearing is is that take it for what it's
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worth, but that Donald Trump is actually farting in the
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courtroom is very stinky around him.
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Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's wonderful. I mean, that is
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fabulous report. This is the level that we get from Maggie
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Haberman no less, He's farting. And this has been top of the
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news everyone's Donald Trump is and it's not just farting, John.
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It's putrid odor
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Unknown: in the courtroom, and that Trump's lawyers are like
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repulsed by the scent in the smell. And I'm not I'm not just
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saying that to be like, Oh,
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Adam Curry: why are you doing it? You should have said
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breaking break. Hey,
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Unknown: you know, we have good sources there. And I'm hearing
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it from actual credible people that as he's kind of falling
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asleep, he is actually passing gas and that his lawyers are
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really struggling with the smell. I
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Adam Curry: like that. I like the addition that his lawyers
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are really struggling with this. I mean, do they do the other
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lawyers keeling over? Are they putting on gas masks? I mean, we
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need to add this to the Trump rotation.
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John C Dvorak: I have my list and you might want to see if
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there's anything that this is the Trump rotation is two
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categories is irregular and then there's the criminal but here we
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go. Ready? Yeah. Liar, incompetent, unhinged
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illegitimate President white supremacist, racist bully,
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immature Russian agent, narcissist. Mean long ties,
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insane. Tweets too much small hands, small penis big red
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button, criminal. Mean racist, immature, thin skinned, runs.
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The mob has no money. Unstable, fatter than 239 pounds. Bank
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Robber 25th amendment and should be instituted. He hates women
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misogynist holds grudges forever plays golf a lot obstruction of
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justice, money laundering and cloud. John
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Adam Curry: There you go wonder partying. We're making fun
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Ready, Marcin
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John C Dvorak: cork would be the one I also never put on that
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list that watches gorilla TV. My all time favorite
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Adam Curry: farts in court. I mean Bart's in court. This is
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your your media and alternative media together cooperating with
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sources, reliable sources.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah.
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Adam Curry: I mean, they literally were talking about and
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he's scowling. And he's he's looking a realistic person, his
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lips.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Rachel Maddow got somehow God and she
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was thankful that she got into the court and she was talking
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about how he scowling but you wouldn't. I don't know about you
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if you ever been to a court but generally speaking, if you're in
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the audience, you don't get to see their faces. Know you're
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behind them. But you know, the guy is scowling. When you're
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sitting behind him, which is where you're seated seated,
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you're not seated anywhere else.
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Adam Curry: I think they're they're looking at the court,
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which is still always funny to me that they have someone who
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it's you can't have cameras in the court, but you can have a
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guide drawing. Yes, a guy drawing. It's just literally a
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caricature from someone who does that Central Park. And it's
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Trump, you know, the scout is pushed lips,
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John C Dvorak: I think they're getting Rachel Maddow was going
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on and on about how happy she was to be there and he was
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scowling. And he walked his walks with a shuffle. I wish I
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recorded this sounds good watch with a shuffle. He looks like an
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old man. He's taller than you think. And it was just like, Who
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What is this got to do with anything? It's just a bunch of
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it's so high schoolish especially MSNBC, that it's an
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embarrassment and these people get paid. Rachel Maddow gets
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literally gets millions of dollars to work one day a week.
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That's
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Adam Curry: always a cry. And you're, you're always mad about
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that. Yeah. So then so then, you know, this is affecting the
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general population. Here's, here's one we didn't expect.
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This is from C span. Now, there's a number of Trump
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trials. So in this case, we're talking about immunity. And it's
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a little confusing, because all the things he did on January 6,
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he was still president. So you know, view I presume that he has
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immunity from anything he said. He didn't go he didn't go and
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bust down the doors at the Capitol himself. But okay. And
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somehow that gets conflated with stuff he he's done after, or
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wants to do after the election. I mean, the whole thing is
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weird. But now it seeps into the brains of people. Let's go to C
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span Democrat line. This is David independent. Good morning.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Independent. Yeah. If
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Unknown: if the court rules that he is immune to end, the
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President is immune to anything, you know, actually, then the
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President can could do anything he wants to including
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assassinating his political opponents. So in that case, if
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the court rules for for him, President Biden could have him
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assassin can have Trump assassinated, and get away with
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exactly what Putin and donor Russia,
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Adam Curry: really Russia now. As great at that I had heard
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that one. That's good. I like that. And then we can put to
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rest once and for all are clearly incorrect assumption
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that Obama could be prosecuted for this. No, no, no,
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John C Dvorak: I know where you can be put to rest because it
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was not addressed properly.
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Adam Curry: Well, let's see. I do about President Obama's drone
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strikes. This is a justice Cavanaugh asking the question.
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The Office
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Unknown: of Legal Counsel looked at this very carefully and
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determined that number one, the Federal murder statute does
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apply to the executive branch, the president wasn't personally
18:52
carrying out the strike. But the aiding and abetting laws are
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broad. And it determined that a public authority exception
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that's built into statutes, and that apply to particularly the
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murder statute, because it talks about unlawful killing, did not
19:07
apply to the drone strike. So this is actually the way that
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the system should function. The Department of Justice takes
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criminal law very seriously. Through the analysis very
19:17
carefully, with established principles, it documents them,
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it explains them, and then the President can go forward in
19:23
accordance with it, and there is no risk of prosecution for that
19:26
course of activity.
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Adam Curry: But of course, you're right and I think it's
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ignorance on the part of justice Cavanaugh is part that he didn't
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frame the question correctly.
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John C Dvorak: It will not only that, but he didn't do a follow
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up that I can tell I mean, I didn't get that little clips
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been floating around. I don't have the beginning Miranda I
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don't even know is being played today. And the follow up would
19:50
be with that so that even includes the the assassinate the
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the assassination by drone of an American citizen that is exactly
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what he should have followed up with this and gotten it and if
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they'd said yes to that. Great, that's good to know.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but I don't think he asked that. I don't
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think Cavanaugh knows these people don't know that stuff.
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Well,
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John C Dvorak: Kevin dropped the ball. He was not his fault. It's
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his staff.
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Adam Curry: He was too busy goofing. Phoebe It's okay. You
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know who they are?
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John C Dvorak: Who she barking at?
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Adam Curry: Well, the painters are still just the last all day
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John C Dvorak: the rafters is it? Where's Where is? Oh,
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Adam Curry: no important stuff outside the house. She first you
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went to New York and I was here with the painters and that's
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important stuff, man. She's She's running this town. Running
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this town. I do have a TRT report about the Supreme Court
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on former President Trump's immunity. While the US press is
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sniffing his farts. These guys are actually doing some analysis
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sitting
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Unknown: in a courtroom day after day. This will be Donald
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Trump's life for the next few weeks, and possibly for the next
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several months as well. Trump faces a total of four criminal
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trials to hush money case concerns allegations before he
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became president. But the other cases sent on his activities
21:18
while in office, most notably the claim that he attempted to
21:22
overturn the results of the 2020 election. Today,
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an indictment was unsealed. Charging Donald J. Trump with
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conspiring to defraud the United States. This is
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Adam Curry: the special prosecutor he sounds out of
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breath. He sounds weird, this jack dude,
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Unknown: conspiring to disenfranchise voters, right,
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and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding.
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But
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Trump's lawyers would argue that making a president liable for
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criminal charges would make the job impossible. In their
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submission to the court, they say the threat of future
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prosecution and imprisonment would become a political cudgel,
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to influence the most sensitive and controversial presidential
22:05
decisions. And
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I feel that as a president, you have to have immunity. Very
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simple. And if you don't, as an example of this case, we're lost
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on immunity. And I did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing
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working for the country.
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In one sense, the court has already handed Trump a victory
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by agreeing to hear this case at all. The former president had
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been due to appear in court here in Washington last month. But
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the delay caused by this hearing means the chances of him
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appearing in another courtroom before November's election. are
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getting slimmer by the day. There
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Adam Curry: you go. Delay, delay, delay delayed Lee, our
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lawyer, Rob is the guy who is listening to everything today
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and he'll have a report for us. So we'll know exactly what to
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think. But that's better than you know. Could it be a jury
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intimidation if Trump is farting? Is he intimidating the
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jury?
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John C Dvorak: This could be something to do with gas
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attacks.
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Adam Curry: Chemical Warfare chemical
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John C Dvorak: warfare. Yeah, that's it.
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Adam Curry: I thought before we just since there's there's so
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many, I mean, there's a lot going on. We're like in a in a
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classic Maoist struggle session in America right now. And it's
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spreading all over the world,
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John C Dvorak: all over the world, especially Australia. I
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have Australia clips. Before
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Adam Curry: we do that, do you mind if I play the extended West
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Clarke seven clip just so we can remember where a lot of this is
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coming from?
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John C Dvorak: What's the extended version?
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Adam Curry: Well, it's longer than him just naming the seven
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countries he gives the background and how long this has
23:43
been going on and tells you who the people are doing this for
23:47
the game, obviously, but we played it. We didn't play the
23:50
extended one recently. I don't think Well, here it is. So
23:52
reminder for everybody is good. It's a background.
23:55
Unknown: And then I came back to the Pentagon about six weeks
23:57
later, I saw the same officer. I said, Why? Why am we attacked
24:01
Iraq, we still gonna attack Iraq? He said, Oh, sir, he says
24:03
it's worse than that. He pulled up a piece of paper off his desk
24:06
because I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense's
24:08
office, it says we're going to attack and destroy the
24:11
government's in seven countries in five years. We're going to
24:14
start with Iraq. And then we're going to move to Syria, Lebanon,
24:17
Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. I seven, seven countries in five
24:23
years. I said it's in a classified memo. He said, Yes,
24:27
sir. I said, Well, don't show it to me. He was about to show it
24:30
to me. So because I want to talk about it. And I couldn't believe
24:33
it would really be true, but that's actually what happened.
24:37
These people took control of the policy in the United States. And
24:41
I realized then, it came back to me a 1991 meeting I had with
24:46
Paul Wolfowitz. You know, in 2001, he was Deputy Secretary of
24:50
Defense, but in 1991, he was the Undersecretary of Defense for
24:53
Policy to number three position in the Pentagon. So I called him
24:57
up there he was available, and he brought me in and Though I
25:00
said to Paul, I said, and this is 1991. I said, Mr. Secretary,
25:05
you must be pretty happy with the performance of the troops
25:07
and Desert Storm. And he said, Well, yeah, he said, but but not
25:12
really. He said, Because the truth is we should have gotten
25:15
rid of Saddam Hussein. And we didn't. He said, but one thing
25:18
we did learn, he said, we learned that we can use our
25:22
military in the region in the Middle East, and the Soviets
25:25
won't stop us. He said, and we've got about five or 10 years
25:29
to clean up those old Soviet client regimes, Syria, Iran,
25:36
Iraq, before the next great superpower comes on to
25:40
challenges. It was a pretty stunning thing. I mean, the
25:43
purpose of the military is to start wars and change
25:46
governments. It's not to sort of deter conflict. We're going to
25:50
invade countries and I you know, my mind was spinning. This
25:55
country was taken over by a group of people with a policy
26:00
coup Wolfowitz, and Cheney and Rumsfeld. And you could name a
26:08
half dozen other collaborators from the Project for a New
26:11
American Century. They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East.
26:17
Turn it upside down. Make it under our control.
26:22
Adam Curry: There you go. That's that's the full West Clarke
26:25
seven. Well, that's
26:26
John C Dvorak: actually a different clip.
26:27
Adam Curry: It is. It is.
26:29
John C Dvorak: It's not the old the old classic clip. That's
26:32
correct. Yeah, this is Yeah, cuz he said he's brought this up
26:36
into the key brought us into the conversation more than a few
26:38
times in that clip is probably more interesting. If they
26:43
haven't heard that for a while. You're right.
26:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, I knew you'd like it. I knew you'd like it
26:46
because it kind of sets
26:48
John C Dvorak: the stage. It's a winner. It
26:51
Adam Curry: kind of sets the stage what let's look at
26:53
Australia I've been to Australia was was
26:55
John C Dvorak: Australia's gone nuts. No. Okay. What do we just
26:58
say a few things is we are no sir. Australia donors are down.
27:02
So there's
27:04
Adam Curry: like they're dead. That dead. Jim. We don't have a
27:06
lot of them.
27:08
John C Dvorak: They have this Prime Minister, this guy you
27:12
don't know but knows who he is his Anthony l Bernie's. He looks
27:17
like Elmer Fudd. And acts like Elmer Fudd. He's a laborer. He's
27:24
the head of labor. And he is a censorship nut. And the whole
27:30
country, both sides all everybody in the entire
27:34
political spectrum is wants to censor everything. Yes. And all
27:39
and all information should come from the government and the
27:43
police. And I have a series of clips. Now this series of clips
27:48
begins with one these are all from Sky News. And it's a it's a
27:52
collection of various Australian politicians. All demanding
27:59
censorship. And this guy Alba knees thinks it should be
28:04
illegal to make a meme that involves
28:07
Adam Curry: Well, to be fair, I don't know if you have the clip.
28:11
But he was talking about super impose I don't know if it was a
28:14
meme or not but it but memes would fall under his outrage.
28:18
Yes.
28:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he thinks it should be memes
28:21
literally should be illegal. You said memes. He said memes amazes
28:27
me. He hates memes. You should move to Australia.
28:35
Adam Curry: My bags are packed. I'm ready to go. All right,
28:39
John C Dvorak: I want to start this with this clip is not part
28:42
of the the super clips. But this is a clip about the there's this
28:48
woman named Julie Inman Grant, who is the east safety chief he
28:53
said she's in charge of E Safety he say oh I like a safety and
28:57
she is the one who is she used a lot of a lot of the genesis for
29:03
this is from her and she's weird because she has a California
29:09
accent and doesn't sound like an Australian at all. But she put
29:14
the clamps the kibosh on any Jen she's the one really injured
29:19
Miss misgendering and if you arresting people and throwing
29:25
him in jail if they miss gender is really important to her. That
29:29
this doesn't happen. So I want to play that clip first, which
29:32
is just about the misgendering because some people got their
29:35
kid in a ringer over this and then I'll play the other one.
29:38
This is E Safety Julie Inman grant clip, Chris
29:41
Unknown: we've had him on this program has submitted a Notice
29:45
of Appeal against the E Safety Commissioner in this country
29:48
Julian grant overheard takedown order for his post where he
29:54
supposedly misgendered a trans activists telling me that laters
29:59
with this case it's a fascinating one. It's one that
30:02
got international attention. People were shocked that this
30:06
was happening in Australia and you would think the Safety
30:09
Commissioner would have bigger priorities I don't know Child
30:14
Exploitation for one then to bring down posts on x. Yeah,
30:20
that's right. Look, there is a serious issue with the exposure
30:22
of children to you know, graphic and obscene content and it needs
30:26
to be dealt with the problem that you've got here with with
30:28
Dizzy Safety Commissioner, she's she's an activist, she will
30:32
continue to expand her role to police the Internet to sense the
30:36
debate in a way that's consistent with her own
30:38
ideological views. We're just talking about the EPA, it's the
30:41
exact exact same problem you have these unelected bureaucrats
30:44
that have vague powers. And they will fill it with their with
30:48
their views. And you know, she has a track record of censorship
30:51
and and only ever targets one side. And unfortunately, we're
30:54
seeing that happen again.
30:55
Adam Curry: If I can just add some color to this expos a of
30:58
what's happening in Australia. When I went up to Dallas from my
31:01
buddies 60th birthday. The end up there was a travel agent. Now
31:08
she is she has her own travel agent business. And she booked a
31:13
lot of stuff for us. And she did it for free. And this friends of
31:16
the family and is really good because, you know, she gets all
31:18
kinds of benefits, you know, travel agents work, they, you
31:22
know, they get a piece of the back end somehow. Edna, so I
31:25
meet her and I knew that she was Australian, and we're chatting
31:29
as a party. And I say, Wow, man, you know, I was in Australia in
31:33
1990. And she's from Perth. I said, you know, Perth was
31:36
beautiful. I really love that. But man, that country's really
31:39
changed. He goes well, you mean? I said, Well, ever since you
31:43
took the guns away, we'll do it. I don't think she's ever going
31:45
to do anything for us. She got really mad about that. Now it's
31:49
like well, in COVID that was that it was over. She was really
31:54
defensive about about it, which to me means she knows she knows
31:58
that something has gone really arrived. And maybe that's why
32:02
we're not hearing from our from our Aziz anymore. Tom's weird,
32:07
something's going on.
32:08
John C Dvorak: That's an interesting anecdote.
32:10
Adam Curry: I think they'd been been beaten down into
32:12
submission. It's finally happened and they're
32:14
John C Dvorak: the first year or two. It can't happen here. Yes,
32:17
it can. Oh, yes, it can. Did your jaw you talked about as
32:20
Trump farting is the best you can do.
32:25
Adam Curry: We're lost. We are so lost. So
32:29
John C Dvorak: let's go with the safety too. And then this will
32:31
be this is a roundup of the commentary from unfortunately,
32:35
you don't see who the people are in that you can't see the Chiron
32:38
but it's I can just tell you, this is besides Alberni says in
32:42
here. People from both sides of all political parties are making
32:47
these comments. The entire country is all in for harsh
32:52
censorship. legal
32:53
Unknown: notices have been issued to Google meta X,
32:57
Telegram, WhatsApp and Reddit. Amid a surge in reports of
33:01
harmful content being spread on the platforms
33:03
John C Dvorak: were prepared to take whatever action is
33:06
necessary to hold these companies into line.
33:10
Unknown: So is there a case do you think for tougher action
33:12
against social media companies?
33:14
No question at all. And I think there's a bipartisan position in
33:18
relation to this. This
33:19
is exactly as I'd expect from x or Twitter or whatever the
33:23
whatever you want to call it, a disregard for the information
33:26
that they pump into our communities, lies and rumors
33:30
spreading like wildfire. And then when things go wrong,
33:34
throwing their hands up in the air to say that they're not
33:36
prepared to do anything about it. We
33:37
know that the company so we're seeing some of the comments from
33:40
Elon Musk overnight, so they see themselves above the law. We've
33:43
had enough
33:44
John C Dvorak: Sydney's had enough media companies,
33:46
including social media companies have a responsibility to act. It
33:50
shouldn't need the Safety Commissioner to intervene. Hmm
33:56
hmm. And that was everybody. That's everybody from the
34:00
political spectrum left to right. Well,
34:02
Adam Curry: hold on doesn't doesn't that kind of fall in
34:04
line with I just said because people aren't on X, Y, we will
34:07
call the people on X are saying hey, Australia's crap, they went
34:11
to crap they're lost. Maybe everybody's offended by that.
34:17
Could be just thank you. So
34:18
John C Dvorak: let's go. Okay, part two of this clip I think
34:20
brings in Inman grant. And, and you can hear her and listen to
34:25
her accents because she, she's introduced and if she's chatting
34:28
right away, and this is not an Australian accent I can I can
34:32
assure you I don't know what it is. But it sounds like a
34:35
California girl.
34:36
Unknown: Julie in man grant is the Safety Commissioner. Well,
34:39
we
34:39
have a range of graduated powers, powers the civil
34:44
proceedings and we could take them to court or we could find
34:47
them she
34:48
Adam Curry: has American Cali Girl Up talk flowers. Yeah,
34:51
she's totally Of course she says Um, well, what an offense.
34:57
Unknown: Julie in man grant is the sad Commissioner, well, we
35:01
have a range
35:01
of graduated powers, there could be civil proceedings, and we
35:06
could take them to court or we could find them. Of course, the
35:10
quantum of the fine would depend on the gravity of the non
35:13
compliance. This is where we try and work with the platforms to
35:16
either voluntarily raise this or to use our codes and mandatory
35:19
standards to force compliance. But we can use graduated tools
35:25
like LinkedIn Leisha notices, so if they fail to remove the
35:28
content, then we can go to the search engines such as Google or
35:32
Bing to really minimize the amount of content the
35:36
Australians can see,
35:37
since we'll work with the Commonwealth Government to pull
35:39
down those pages. But I can't emphasize enough how difficult
35:43
it is to contain a combustible situation. When false and
35:47
malicious rumors spread like wildfire in our community, we
35:51
need to be in a position where we're dealing with truth the
35:53
nation
35:54
should be from police and law enforcement authorities. And if
35:58
people have concerns they should check our websites, our socials
36:02
and any other direct news from law enforcement about
36:06
information,
36:07
act on advice and information that's provided by the
36:10
government or the police. So please be assured that police
36:14
will be the source of truth, and not social media and
36:17
misinformation.
36:18
And then when it comes to the misinformation and
36:20
disinformation, the government does have was working on draft
36:24
laws to try and put in place and much tougher rules for the
36:29
social media companies. Where are you at on this? Are you
36:32
prepared to back such laws
36:34
that we are and happy to have a look at anything the government
36:38
puts forward, as we've said over the last week, with the
36:41
horrendous things that we've seen as bad if
36:43
extra Commonwealth laws are required to take down web pages
36:47
that are inciting and smashing cohesion in Australia's largest
36:51
city, then that's exactly what needs to happen
36:53
there more more of this content is up there. The more that is
36:56
reached shared, the more the velocity and the virality
36:59
continues. And we need to stem that
37:01
Adam Curry: velocity and virality.
37:05
John C Dvorak: But my favorite quote in that little commentary,
37:09
there was the police is the source of truth. And that was a
37:14
cop saying that some won't female police shut up slave
37:19
lease is the source. The police are the source of truth.
37:23
Adam Curry: I consulted the book of knowledge, and allow me to
37:27
share what we have learned from Wikipedia about Julie Inman
37:31
grant. She was born in 1968. In Seattle, Washington. Ah, there
37:36
you go. The She's an American public servant who is currently
37:40
serving as the Safety Commissioner role, which leads
37:43
Australia's independent regulator for online safety.
37:46
After graduating from university in early 1990s. Grant was
37:51
offered a position as a Case Agent with the CIA, but but
37:57
declined the offer. As it meant, quote, I won't be able to tell
38:01
my friends and family what I was doing. She subsequently started
38:05
working in the public sector as a policy advisor for United
38:08
States Congressman John Miller. And then from 95 to 2000. She
38:12
worked as a Government Affairs Manager for Microsoft. And then
38:16
she moved to Australia, she married her now husband, and
38:20
became the Asia Pacific director of Internet safety, privacy and
38:24
security at Microsoft. So she glows in the dark.
38:33
John C Dvorak: Yes, and this spooky thing is interesting,
38:35
because I think, I don't know if you can tell by seeing what's
38:39
missing from that that to say that she is actually is working
38:43
for the CIA? Oh, yeah. Clearly would, she would and the cover
38:47
would be Oh, I refused that job. Because I wouldn't be able to
38:50
tell my friends what I do. And then all of a sudden she's
38:54
running security in Australia.
38:56
Adam Curry: She refused. She only refused the case. Agent Job
38:59
didn't say she refused. CIA position. Just
39:02
John C Dvorak: case ah, ah, good. Good catch on the parsing.
39:06
Yes. That's how we do it. That's how we do it. So that's what's
39:09
going on there. So the CIA is? Yeah. Okay. So let's go through
39:13
this, the last clip of the group.
39:16
Unknown: There we go. The Online Safety Act has significant
39:18
powers. You know, we passed it when we're in government, and it
39:21
needs to be enforced. It's
39:22
about time that we strengthen rules in relation to the E
39:26
Safety Commissioner. There's an
39:27
age verification recommended by the Safety Commissioner from
39:32
2023. We think that's something that government should pick up.
39:34
So you get out
39:35
why we've just put some very strong mandatory codes in place
39:38
to encourage companies to do more.
39:41
If the laws are inadequate, and they need to be strengthened or
39:43
added to then we would support any effort from the government
39:46
were
39:47
John C Dvorak: prepared to take whatever action is necessary to
39:51
hold these companies into law
39:53
Unknown: to really minimize the amount of content the
39:56
Australians can see. They're
39:58
Adam Curry: going to cut off their internet They're gonna get
40:01
to kangaroo social media.
40:03
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know why. What's the big deal? She at
40:08
the end? I think it was the kicker, she says we have to make
40:11
sure that we we control what Australians can see,
40:16
Adam Curry: let me just hear that exact quote again, because
40:18
that is quite beautiful. It's here again here to hold these
40:22
companies into law
40:24
Unknown: to really minimize the amount of content the
40:27
Australians can see. minimize
40:29
Adam Curry: the amount of that goes to show.
40:33
John C Dvorak: This is why Yeah, it goes to show everybody we
40:36
will be cut off this show, which does nothing more than analyze
40:40
news stories will be cut off from Australia as Will everyone
40:45
because they are going there trying to control the flow of
40:48
information into Australia from outside sources. Why? I mean,
40:53
what's the end game here besides just control the a is
40:58
Adam Curry: there any of population or any other end
41:00
game? That's that is the end game, isn't it? Just control the
41:03
point
41:04
John C Dvorak: would be, I guess, because I guess maybe
41:07
we're going to set a basis there or discuss some do with China.
41:10
There's there's a there's an underlying reason for this that
41:14
we don't understand. But it has to No, no. The military
41:17
industrial complex.
41:18
Adam Curry: Well, perhaps, but I think it's simpler than that.
41:21
Australia was the first one to they were really the test case.
41:25
Here's your job. Shut up. Stay home. We're cordoning off you to
41:29
pass to get out of your city. That's what happened. I think
41:33
this is
41:34
John C Dvorak: they didn't have they didn't have that little
41:35
element. We keep forgetting about the past. Yeah.
41:38
Adam Curry: Can we break a country? Can we break so
41:42
John C Dvorak: you're just thinking Australia's a giant
41:43
test tube? Yeah,
41:45
Adam Curry: in a way? Sure. Sure. I mean, if they broke
41:49
Chris Wilson to a degree. That's a broken man. I've talked to him
41:54
frequently. Not not really often, but he's like, I'm still
41:58
overboard. And you know, he's he's just trying to get along
42:02
the broken people there. And that response I got from the
42:05
travel agent.
42:07
John C Dvorak: That's that respect is an important story.
42:09
Yeah,
42:10
Adam Curry: it's there's some there's something something
42:12
really something broke. And they don't and they they have no, at
42:17
least in America, we think like, oh, yeah, man, we got guns.
42:21
Okay, sure. Let's go everybody, you first. We got I got I got
42:28
2000 rounds. But you know, so that that may be actually quite
42:32
genius, because we just think that we could always take it
42:35
back. But I don't really see any evidence that that that there's
42:39
anyone with enough coats bar to do it on mass mass. However,
42:45
it's gonna get interesting. We have now in Fredericksburg, the
42:49
heart of the Texas Hill Country, Trump land travel sign, you now
42:54
entering Trump land. Shaq, Shaq has now entered our school
43:00
system. S H AC the School Health Advisory Committee. This is so
43:07
this is Oh, I thought you were talking about Shaquille O'Neal.
43:09
If only? No, no, this is this is the outfit. You know, the
43:15
organization. They came from Austin and they bring in health
43:20
consultants and they put up QR codes in the school. Hey kids,
43:25
you feel a little gay? Yeah. And, and the books they put the
43:33
books in the library and so the ladies got together yes, they
43:37
kudos to the ladies. If these are books for nine years, nine
43:40
year olds, about you know jerking off and wet dreams and
43:44
this nine year olds it's questionable whether schools
43:48
should be teaching children about anything of this nature.
43:52
John C Dvorak: And they can't they can't add in
43:55
Adam Curry: what else you're gonna do I have a mobile play
44:00
with this thing and so they the women went on mass yesterday and
44:09
and so they they get the gaining some ground that was there were
44:13
supposed to approve all these books and they delayed this vote
44:16
and it's they was calm, but I have a feeling that that it's
44:22
it's going and the whole
44:23
John C Dvorak: idea that this is that moms for Liberty operation
44:26
right
44:26
Adam Curry: not just no just just expectant moms parents it's
44:31
for Liberty plus Yes, it's mom's for Liberty plus
44:33
John C Dvorak: well that's what's needed everywhere, but
44:35
they'll they'll beat them back somehow. Well,
44:38
Adam Curry: I'm not so sure. And it was it was mainly the the
44:41
amount the the number of women who showed up good you know, it
44:46
was it was just so much and no one of the school board members
44:51
said to someone we know like, Hey, you got to keep control
44:54
your group. Like I don't control anything. This these are
44:58
concerned parents. Yes. Sadly, because there are people on the
45:02
pro side of this nice not just you know, there's this a divided
45:05
little city here with less than a half 1000 people. And they
45:09
believe they've been propagandized into believing
45:13
that this is a health issue. And that you know, when your kid is,
45:17
you know, feeling gay or trans or whatever, that you know, this
45:21
will prevent them from killing themselves, which of course, we
45:24
know that all of these measures from the CAS report, it wasn't
45:29
not the CAS. Yeah. Casper, USS Cass review. I think it is
45:33
John C Dvorak: a review of all the everything ever printed on
45:37
that
45:37
Adam Curry: all of it is just not well, not doing well. That
45:41
was good. It's fraud. Yes, it's a it's a huge fraud. Now, of
45:45
course, the cast review gets zero attention, because there's
45:49
way too much money involved. Anyway, so that's playing out
45:54
here in Little Fredericksburg. It's fascinating. So this this
45:57
is a global push.
46:01
John C Dvorak: Frederick, Fredericksburg would be a
46:04
target. Because he has course, because it has its normal
46:10
politics and then the influence of nearby Austin, which is the
46:15
most influential city in the entire state. Yes.
46:18
Adam Curry: And of course, Hollywood. I mean, oh, I think
46:23
the proportion of trans kids in Hollywood is is way higher than
46:27
than anywhere else in America. I always have to laugh me see.
46:32
What's her name from the Dr. Commercial? She has a an adopted
46:38
black son who she dresses in a in a dress. What's her name
46:42
again?
46:43
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, two
46:44
Adam Curry: kids. It's like what do you do? She's
46:46
John C Dvorak: got two kids somehow.
46:49
Adam Curry: Feel what are the chances? So I mean, in the
46:53
troll, Iran Charlize Theron, the run
46:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she is.
46:57
Adam Curry: But I mean, a lot. A lot of these women in Hollywood
47:01
have this. It's like, what? What is going on you? Pet I'm not
47:05
supposed to say Wiccans. I'm so say witches. Their witches is
47:08
correct. But with the I got the United States association of
47:12
Wiccans. And that a little upset. Hey, we're a farm club.
47:15
They
47:15
John C Dvorak: sent you a note. Yeah,
47:16
Adam Curry: we're a fun loving group. Let's stop it. Witches.
47:19
Yes, we're against witches, but we're of the wicked tribe. So
47:23
don't mess with us. I like okay, all right. Which is ever which
47:27
is it is. But you know, there's there's stuff ending. It's
47:31
interesting to watch. We have a particularly I think dei folds
47:35
into this and it is unfolding before our very eyes. You sent
47:39
me the link that the Women Who Code organization has folded,
47:45
folded. I mean, they couldn't they couldn't even keep that
47:49
going. That was a Kara Swisher or thing, wasn't it.
47:53
John C Dvorak: Women who had PCOS, it was they started in San
47:56
Francisco in I think 2011. And then it by 2018. They, I don't
48:02
know why. But they moved to Atlanta. Which is like, you
48:07
know, if you know, there were certain there are certain
48:10
geographical areas that you want to be in because of certain, you
48:14
know, there's, I don't want to call it a vibe or a milieu or
48:18
whatever it is. But Silicon Valley, where this actually San
48:22
Francisco, which is not Silicon Valley Tech, technically, is
48:27
different than Atlanta when it comes to having the different
48:31
types of people. And so they moved to Atlanta, which I
48:34
thought was a blunder and then they had a just in January, they
48:39
hired a new woman who was a dei specialist. Yes, she had a
48:43
certificate shot, but she's actually a she was actually kind
48:48
of a chief technical officer type. Even I would even say
48:52
maybe a bean counter type and she got a certificate which you
48:56
could get from her I guess the school she went to and dei and
49:00
she took over the operation in January and four months later
49:03
folded it would they brought in some new board members and say
49:06
were this no go raid group closing down and all the
49:09
individual units were they had they were trying to confiscate
49:14
their money now there's a big battle going on. Oh, for the
49:16
money guys trying to get the chapters. Brother. So and
49:21
there's a couple of tough women that are involved. You can tell
49:25
because there's different threads you can follow and say
49:27
wow, this girl's means business. Yeah. And there is not over.
49:32
Adam Curry: So okay, so Dei, there you go. Then we have
49:35
another story. This is most prophecy by the way. The dei is
49:39
unfold. Not at the that Women Who Code she wasn't she wasn't
49:43
black. She's a white woman. Deliberately
49:46
John C Dvorak: the new CEO the DEI, yeah, she's kind of a
49:50
middle aged white woman. Okay.
49:53
Adam Curry: We do have the DEI official at UCLA School of
49:56
Medicine. Turns out she massively plagiarize her
49:59
dissertation. mission on D. Dei. I'm a DI official I plagiarize
50:08
my dissertation on Dei, terrible. And then big story in
50:13
The New York Times about the inside the crisis at NPR. And a
50:18
lot of it is, of course, you know, podcasting. Of course,
50:23
podcasting is a much more efficient way to distribute
50:27
instead of having expensive radio stations and you know, you
50:29
need people to run the buildings and the transmitters. With
50:33
podcasting, they also don't have to adhere to the underwriting,
50:37
they could just go straight on ads, which is a big improvement
50:41
for them. But also, there was a lot of dei stuff. I quote from
50:47
the article. So it came as a disappointment to some people on
50:50
NPRs board last fall, when they were presented with new internal
50:54
data showing their efforts hadn't moved the needle much
50:56
with blackness that Hispanic listeners, black listeners made
51:00
up roughly 11% of NPRs audience in the second quarter of 2023,
51:04
unchanged from the same period and 2020. According to the data.
51:08
The data further show that the share of Hispanic listeners went
51:11
up only two percentage points since 2020, to account for 16%
51:14
of the total audience. 120 20 survey from Pew Research found
51:19
that of the people who named NPR as their main source for
51:22
political and election news 75% were white, more than any other
51:27
outlet except for Fox News. So they're literally number two in
51:32
white supremacy. And here's the is this is the funny thing. So
51:39
this this shows you how these people were thinking NPRs
51:43
efforts to diversify itself and its audience didn't always live
51:47
up to the expectations of the people who work there. During a
51:50
round of layoffs last year, NPR cut louder than a riot, a hip
51:55
hop podcast that examines black and queer issues. Okay, let's
51:59
stop right there. Here's the meeting. Hey, we need to dei and
52:03
diversify. I know black people like hip hop. Yeah, let's get
52:07
let's find some black queer people and make a show. G and it
52:11
didn't work. You're kidding, right?
52:15
John C Dvorak: I mean, so play this clip was and then continue
52:18
your rant but played his first escape from last show. So you
52:21
had to look it up his podcast ad black stories. This is the
52:24
latest NPR attempt to make a podcast that appeals to blacks
52:29
Unknown: in this country. Some truths aren't self evident. And
52:33
NPR is black stories, black truths, a collection of stories
52:37
as wide ranging and real as the people who tell them we
52:41
celebrate the black experience for all its soul and richness.
52:46
Search NPR, black stories, black truths. wherever you get
52:50
podcasts. Oh,
52:51
Adam Curry: goodness. Yeah. No wonder this fails. Guess it may
52:54
come as a surprise to you. NPR. Black people don't even want to
52:58
be seen as black people. They're just Americans. They're
53:01
interested in stuff, but you're pandering.
53:05
John C Dvorak: pandering. We worry. That's the word of the
53:08
day. pandering.
53:09
Adam Curry: It's creepy. just creepy. Like da. I wonder that
53:14
didn't work. And now I've now just like this E Safety Lady
53:17
that bringing in some spook here to run the NP Rs. Oh, yeah. What
53:22
do you give her? Six months? What do you think? How long does
53:26
it woohoo, there's
53:26
John C Dvorak: a dead Deadpool Deadpool, Deadpool,
53:29
Adam Curry: NPR, Deadpool. What do you what do you good
53:32
question. What do you give her? What do you give her? I can't
53:34
give her more than six months. It just seems like I mean,
53:37
they're gonna because they do quarterly reporting. It's gonna
53:39
suck. And you know, that was since 2020 22. I was well, by
53:45
the
53:45
John C Dvorak: way just to be before I want you to continue.
53:47
But before that guy Yuri, that wrote that piece that got fired,
53:52
basically, yeah. Because of this. He wrote a piece in
53:56
between the two CEOs hoping that he would, you know, achieve
53:59
favor with a newcomer coming in. But when she came in, she got
54:03
rid of him because she's like any other. You know, some well,
54:06
that troublemaker get him out that chopper? Yes, of course.
54:10
And so she got rid of him that I think is going to come back to
54:12
bite her in the acid that will affect the timeline of her
54:16
disappearance, too, and I think it will negatively show thank
54:21
you. I think you was shortened to me as six months. I'm going
54:26
to give her a year.
54:29
Adam Curry: Well, she had she'll have a year contract at least
54:31
here's the here's the stat. NPR still has an audience of about
54:35
42 million who listen every week, many of them digitally
54:39
which is down from an estimated 60 million in 2020. So even
54:44
though they went all in on podcast, they still lost 18
54:49
million listeners
54:50
John C Dvorak: and then she intimidates a lot. And
54:53
Adam Curry: then okay, so talk about your value for value.
54:55
These people are such idiots. Hold on a second. They, whereas
55:02
it, they put together a podcast subscription service. Here it is
55:10
the adoption of NPRs podcast subscription bundle. Bundle
55:15
bundle NPR plus has also lagged behind competitors subscription
55:20
business, according to internal documents obtained by The Times
55:25
nice hit job times 51,000 people subscribed to NPR plus as of
55:30
March, early March, this is since 2022. And they've done
55:36
about 1.7 million in revenue. That's a failed product, if
55:42
you've got 60 mil Okay, let's say 42 million listeners, and
55:46
you do a subscription bundle. And only 51,000 people sign up
55:51
for it. That's a that's a big fail.
55:55
John C Dvorak: Well, it either that was a big fail and under
55:58
any circumstances, but it also indicates to me, the podcast is
56:02
broken. No, it indicates to me that their numbers are not
56:08
accurate. What do you mean, the big number, the big number of
56:13
taking a percentage of the big number which
56:15
Adam Curry: is what? Yeah,
56:16
John C Dvorak: the million? No, they don't have that's bull
56:19
crap. They only have 52,000 people that are subscribing.
56:23
Yeah, that 50 to that 50 million is bogus. They're probably have
56:28
a few million maybe. And they're double counting, triple
56:34
counting, quadruple counting. They're fudging the number.
56:36
Yeah, to make it look like there's more there that but then
56:39
they screw themselves. Because in any sort of situation where
56:43
you're doing. You're trying to get funds from an x from
56:49
eyeballs. So you have your eyeballs and you have the money
56:51
coming from the eyeballs. The percentages are well known to
56:55
everybody who does that kind of work. And the numbers that
56:58
you're expressing do not match. I'm with you.
57:00
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I'm with you. So
57:02
John C Dvorak: they're full of it. They're lying. I want to
57:06
Adam Curry: get into some of the protests. And I'll just have one
57:09
clip to start off with and then you can take it away. I've see
57:11
you have a couple of clips. Yeah, yeah, I've seen you got
57:14
climene I got clips. But again, you got clips. You always want
57:17
to play clips. You
57:18
John C Dvorak: got clip clips, we
57:19
Adam Curry: got clips. So these something not you not blaming
57:24
you, but something is knocking against your microphone. I don't
57:27
know. Well, no,
57:28
John C Dvorak: I know exactly what it is. Okay, it's not it's
57:30
not knocking against the microphone. It's not you just
57:32
have to tell you that I know I can fix it. I just haven't been
57:35
able to
57:38
Adam Curry: blame you. I know it's mad. It's coming from
57:40
yours. I can only rooms
57:43
John C Dvorak: it's it's it's a high. It's it's a long story. I
57:48
won't bother you if it was a mic bump, it would sound like this.
57:51
Which by the way, somebody said that if I did that, they'd say
57:54
donate. I just did it. It again. I mean to donations. Thank
57:59
Adam Curry: you. It's more of the sound. It's more like that.
58:02
Yeah, well,
58:03
John C Dvorak: I know what it is. I did sorry.
58:04
Adam Curry: Okay. And you know what we don't want to know. But
58:07
you don't want to know, we don't want to know what it is. I just
58:10
want to point it out. Okay, so these kids who are protesting
58:16
and all the universities. So there's a couple things going
58:20
on. First, some observations. I see a lot of the same green
58:24
tents. That's just an observation, everybody, the same
58:28
green tent. So there's as obviously as clearly organized.
58:33
There was I got a short little clip you may have seen this one
58:37
from NYU, where there's a couple of protesters. And and by the
58:42
way, what's with the masks? Are they afraid of COVID Still,
58:47
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. This is how smart they are. They're
58:50
all they're all wearing a calendar wearing Spanish flu
58:55
Adam Curry: as something's going on. And so this is one girl and
58:58
she's she's mildly cute, you know, and she's doozy. gastic
59:02
although she has loved this clip, she has this nose ring
59:04
which I just want to clip a dog leash to right away. She does
59:07
that with my daughter if she came home with that ring like
59:09
click okay, come on. And she and her compatriots there are
59:14
clueless and what would you say is the main goal with tonight's
59:18
protests?
59:18
Unknown: I think the goal is showing our support for
59:21
Palestine and demanding that and I honestly don't know is there
59:26
something that NYU is doing? I really don't I'm pretty sure
59:29
there about Israel protesting here that was more educated. I
59:41
was there so I came down and I heard there's lots of cops are
59:49
saying
59:49
Adam Curry: it was okay, so I should really I'd like to be
59:53
more educated so they are undereducated and over
59:56
socialized which is what we saw with the BLM riots and boy
1:00:00
didn't that turn out to be a big farce a big phony, a big money
1:00:03
grab a big write off for hundreds of millions of dollars
1:00:07
for corporate America. But they're really not like we hate
1:00:11
Jews. We hate Jews. There's no anti semitism going on. I've
1:00:15
looked at, you know, not ours, but I've looked at a lot of
1:00:18
footage. No, there's a couple of Ajaan provocateurs, particularly
1:00:24
in New York to some dude is like, watch me I've got a
1:00:26
yarmulke. And in Israel flag, it's it's almost like memory
1:00:29
Kentucky Fried movie. There's this fantasy that does. That
1:00:33
thrill seeker thing was the thrill seeker guy for the
1:00:36
Kentucky Fried movie. If you haven't seen it, it's almost
1:00:39
required watching although I'm sure very, very dated. And he
1:00:42
would have got a crash helmet on and a cape. And there were a
1:00:46
bunch of black guys playing craps on the street and he went
1:00:48
right in the middle of them and he yells the N word, which back
1:00:51
then you could still say and and that was you know, that's how
1:00:56
dumb this is like, Oh, well, this guy is wearing his Israel
1:00:59
flag. Well, of course you're gonna get people yelling at you
1:01:02
but in general there's all these tents and like Jews for
1:01:06
Palestine we love Jews, you know, all of that stuff. There's
1:01:09
no one is being anti semitic except the politicians. Good
1:01:15
Unknown: morning. There is another demonstration expected
1:01:17
here later today. The Texas State Employees Union had
1:01:20
planned a demonstration for a while in support of staff
1:01:23
associated with dei Pro.
1:01:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is kind of interesting. That's an aside
1:01:29
and kind of a follow on UT Austin just fired all of their
1:01:33
dei people so So on one hand they they're like, Oh, we better
1:01:37
get rid of this. This is not good. We dei is collapsing. And
1:01:40
they probably have a bunch of these. I don't know plagiarize
1:01:44
errs in there like because it's close to division. So it was
1:01:48
already tense
1:01:49
Unknown: as union had planned a demonstration for a while in
1:01:51
supportive staff associated with dei programs who are now losing
1:01:55
their job here on campus, but now, student groups say that
1:01:58
they will join them in another walkout in the first walkout
1:02:02
that they called for yesterday, ended up being chaotic. The
1:02:06
student Palestine Solidarity committee had planned this
1:02:08
walkout the university had told them the event would not be
1:02:12
approved saying that there's a time and place for everything,
1:02:14
but that they couldn't disrupt campus with final exams next
1:02:17
week. Well, UT police and Texas DPS they were ready and they
1:02:21
quickly issue orders for the crowd to disperse. They started
1:02:24
pushing groups back off the main lawn and when demonstrators
1:02:27
would not leave. They started making arrests this morning,
1:02:30
Texas DPS as law enforcement on campus made 34 arrests, and
1:02:35
there was immediately a public call for protesters to then call
1:02:38
the jail and demand their release and begin raising money
1:02:42
for bail. Governor Greg Abbott immediately back the strong
1:02:45
response posting this on acts as the demonstration was happening.
1:02:49
These protesters belong in jail, anti semitism will not be
1:02:53
tolerated in Texas period. Students joining in hate filled
1:02:57
anti semitic protests at any public college or university in
1:03:02
Texas should be expelled.
1:03:04
Adam Curry: This is bullcrap. That's that's our governor
1:03:08
saying, oh, anti semitism. No. This is the idea.
1:03:12
John C Dvorak: I think people out there should be reminded
1:03:14
that Greg Abbott is the governor of Texas. This is disliked by
1:03:20
you. He's a globe because you think he's a big phony. He's
1:03:23
Adam Curry: a big phony globalist he gets a pass because
1:03:26
of wheelchair. Yeah. But we're not. We're on to you, Abbott.
1:03:31
No, he's a phony. Just phony things at the border with a
1:03:34
phony Little Eagle Pass, bro. Here's offense. Oh, we're gonna
1:03:38
stop here. We got Forward Operating Base. Now you're done.
1:03:41
He's a phony. He's a big phony. And now and here he is ginning
1:03:46
it up. Janet. Oh, it's empty. Is Deutsche Avella to add to it.
1:03:50
Unknown: This is definitely a nationwide topic you just
1:03:52
mentioned the White House. We also had the Secretary of
1:03:55
Education who weighed in here say that what he has seen on
1:03:59
campus is it's a disgrace the White House a press release that
1:04:02
they send out saying that anti semitism has no space not only
1:04:06
in any college across the country, but also anywhere. And
1:04:09
as we who are also the concerns of Jewish students but also a
1:04:13
faculty members are rabid close to the university even told
1:04:16
Jewish students to stay away. But there it's important to make
1:04:20
a difference between the protesters protesting inside the
1:04:22
university but also also when we came here earlier today we were
1:04:26
hearing is some chance also some people were here is saying and
1:04:29
rejecting a two state solution quite different to the chance
1:04:32
that we're here in cyber we can imagine that this will still
1:04:35
develop as we see more and more universities more of this
1:04:38
protest also happening across the country.
1:04:40
Adam Curry: Again that just parroting whatever the CIA told
1:04:43
them because this this is a scam they're setting it up and making
1:04:46
it look like these kids hate Jews. It's not this is not what
1:04:50
it's blatantly false because that's not what the chants are.
1:04:54
There's none of that it's pro Palestine, BDS You know,
1:05:00
boycott, divest and divest and sanction they want the
1:05:04
universities to no longer invest in Israel whatever but but stop
1:05:09
the genocide but they're not saying we hate Jews that just
1:05:12
not it and even Mike Johnson was doing Do you have that on your I
1:05:15
John C Dvorak: had the Mike Johnson clip.
1:05:17
Adam Curry: Let me see where is it? There Mike Johnson that
1:05:20
would make sense. Here we have Columbia House Speaker
1:05:22
Unknown: Mike Johnson in New York City today meeting with
1:05:25
students as he calls for Columbia University's president
1:05:28
to resign. And Denise White House correspondent Iris Tao was
1:05:32
at the speaker's press conference after meeting with
1:05:35
Columbia University's president minutiae feet here on campus
1:05:38
House Speaker Mike Johnson says she needs to step down and she's
1:05:41
too weak and protecting Jewish religion
1:05:43
is that they have not acted to restore order on the campus.
1:05:46
This is dangerous. This is not free, free expression. This is
1:05:49
not First Amendment they are threatening intimidating. Saying
1:05:54
that they will take violence upon Jewish students we met with
1:05:56
Jewish students who are in fear, they can't come on campus.
1:06:01
Meanwhile, Johnson was booed by pro Palestinian protesters
1:06:05
during his press conference. Though he responded with a blunt
1:06:09
message does
1:06:10
not matter who shouts in our faces, we're gonna do what is
1:06:13
right by America, my message to the students inside the
1:06:15
encampment is get go back to class and stop the nonsense.
1:06:19
Stop wasting your parents money.
1:06:21
Adam Curry: And Johnson says you also pro that's by the way, just
1:06:24
as a nice stop that for a second that was edited together because
1:06:28
I saw the whole thing and he's up there and some dude next to
1:06:32
him, some Texas Congressman said Stop wasting your parents money
1:06:36
and he said yeah, stop wasting your parents money. That's what
1:06:39
the Congressman just said. They cut that out of this report.
1:06:42
That's interesting. Go back to class and
1:06:44
Unknown: stop that nonsense. Stop wasting your parents money.
1:06:48
Adam Curry: I said it. Yeah, it's a good edit. But it's their
1:06:51
Unknown: plans to call President Biden tell him what he's seen
1:06:54
here and also demand him take executive action to address
1:06:57
this. President Biden on Monday said he condemns anti semitic
1:07:00
protests but also condensed those who don't understand
1:07:03
what's going on with the Palestinians. Former President
1:07:06
Trump says Biden does not know who he's backing. All this as
1:07:10
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahoo on Wednesday, call the
1:07:13
situation on American college campuses horrific.
1:07:17
What's happening on America's college campuses? Is a rift is
1:07:21
horrific. This is
1:07:25
Adam Curry: perfect. All right. So interesting. I have a
1:07:27
different clip of Mike Johnson. And it's funny that he starts to
1:07:31
say this is not free speech. What is he talking about? He's
1:07:35
that's that's the literal expression of free speech.
1:07:39
John C Dvorak: And he when I saw the way I saw another one, this
1:07:42
is million clips of him. But first of all, let's start with
1:07:45
the fact that he's showboating. There's no reason for Mike
1:07:49
Johnson go to Columbia. Yeah. Oh, really? There's no reason
1:07:54
for Mike Johnson to GoJek is the speaker of the house. Why is he
1:07:58
at Columbia, he's just to show up the fact that Biden will go
1:08:02
or Biden can figure out where it is. Yeah, whatever
1:08:06
Adam Curry: it because he's nailed. He's being blackmailed.
1:08:08
They got him. They got him. And now Hey, hey, little boy, go to
1:08:15
New York and say something. Talk anti Jew stuff?
1:08:20
John C Dvorak: Well, it's probably somebody that what
1:08:22
you're saying is that there's a narrative that's been created by
1:08:25
a third party and he is now a student? He's a
1:08:28
Adam Curry: student? Yes. He's just well remember, he signed
1:08:30
the EA Sports Bill said he would never sign ever. Yeah, let me
1:08:34
play this clip. Because there's some different stuff in here.
1:08:36
Unknown: We are standing here right now in the steps of the
1:08:38
low library, in this very building right behind us.
1:08:42
Columbia University once awarded Winston Churchill, an honorary
1:08:45
degree. And it was Churchill who said, it is manifestly right,
1:08:49
that Jews should have a national home where they may be reunited.
1:08:54
We believe in that principle. And today, I'm here to proclaim
1:08:58
to all those who gnashed their teeth and demand to wipe
1:09:01
Adam Curry: the state of Oh, do you hear what he said there? To
1:09:06
those who gnashed their teeth that's like a biblical thing.
1:09:09
He's that's the Vert. You want to hear virtue virtue signal?
1:09:11
That's a virtue of gnashing of teeth?
1:09:15
John C Dvorak: Well, he would we would make sense from him. Yeah.
1:09:17
But
1:09:17
Adam Curry: that's weak. That's that's really weak.
1:09:19
Unknown: We believe in that principle. And today, I'm here
1:09:22
to proclaim to all those who gnashed their teeth and demand
1:09:26
to wipe
1:09:27
John C Dvorak: out against it is there is the reference to
1:09:30
panties in a bunch would that Is that Biblical to
1:09:33
Unknown: it is now civil. And today, I'm here to proclaim to
1:09:37
all those who gnashed their teeth and demand to wipe the
1:09:40
State of Israel off the map and attack our innocent Jewish
1:09:44
students. This simple truth. Neither Israel nor these Jewish
1:09:49
students on this campus will ever stand alone. Today, Hamas
1:09:55
issued an endorsement statement of the protesters on this campus
1:09:58
they called them the future leaders of them America is
1:10:01
detestable. This has to be said because the cherished traditions
1:10:05
of this university are being overtaken right now by radical
1:10:08
and extreme ideologies. They place a target on the backs of
1:10:11
Jewish students in the United States and here on this campus,
1:10:15
a growing number of students have chanted in support of
1:10:18
terrorist. They have chased down Jewish students. They have
1:10:22
mocked them in the reviled them. They have shouted racial ethnic
1:10:24
epithets. I haven't seen that they have screamed at those who
1:10:28
bear bear the Star of David. Enjoy your free speech. Told you
1:10:38
as students who were the Star of David to leave the country, and
1:10:41
shamefully some professors and faculty have joined the mobs.
1:10:45
Things have gotten so out of control that the schools
1:10:47
canceled in person classes. And now they've come up with this
1:10:50
hybrid model, where they will discriminate against Jewish
1:10:53
students, they are not allowed to come to class anymore for
1:10:56
fear of their lives. And it's detestable, as Colombia has
1:11:00
allowed these lawless agitators and radicals to take over. The
1:11:04
virus of anti semitism is spread across other campuses, by some
1:11:08
counts as many as 200 universities have a similar form
1:11:11
of protest right now.
1:11:13
Adam Curry: So this guy has really lost the plot and I think
1:11:18
that I got this clip here. This is from NBC. The threatening of
1:11:25
Johnson which he is responding to whatever they threatened him
1:11:28
with. Whether it's like if you don't if you don't bring this to
1:11:32
the floor if you don't vote for the you don't get this past man,
1:11:35
then you know America's gonna die or you're gonna die or or
1:11:40
no, or we may reveal some photos, we may show some photos.
1:11:45
You're still on that this I give it a 10% possibility, but it's
1:11:48
possible.
1:11:49
John C Dvorak: You can give it any possibility you want, but it
1:11:51
seems the easiest way to do it. Yeah. Well listen
1:11:54
Unknown: to this report from NBC. Tonight with Ukraine
1:11:56
struggling to fend off Russia's relentless military assault. New
1:12:00
American weapons are finally on the way after President Biden
1:12:03
signed that nearly $100 billion dollar foreign aid
1:12:06
John C Dvorak: package was a good day for
1:12:08
Unknown: world peace. It's gonna make America safer.
1:12:10
Adam Curry: And by the way, that's the quote 100 billion
1:12:14
dollars in weapons. It's a good day for peace.
1:12:18
Unknown: Peace world, America safer. Yeah, it's gonna make the
1:12:21
world safer. announcement comes
1:12:22
after a six bill on White House effort to approve more aid the
1:12:26
delay caused by conservative Republicans who threatened to
1:12:29
oust House Speaker Mike Johnson if he supported it. Multiple
1:12:32
officials tell NBC News the president broke the logjam by
1:12:35
directing aides to court Johnson, privately making clear
1:12:39
to him the consequences of inaction.
1:12:41
Adam Curry: And he had an oval meeting. That's what happened.
1:12:44
They brought it was the
1:12:46
John C Dvorak: what what was the vote when they did the final
1:12:49
vote? I think there was something like 100 Republicans
1:12:51
that voted for that. Well,
1:12:53
Adam Curry: that's part of the whole distraction that the
1:12:55
Republicans are doing No, listen, listen, look. The whole
1:12:59
point is look, focus on Mike Johnson focus on Mike Johnson.
1:13:03
Please don't look at your representatives who voted for
1:13:06
it. That's the point
1:13:08
John C Dvorak: all Johnson was doing was keeping it from from
1:13:11
the floor. Doing these, these Republicans have favor and if he
1:13:17
is finally badgered into putting it to the to a vote yes. And
1:13:21
ended Republicans sold their own people out. He was if it wasn't
1:13:26
for all the Republicans that voted for it, it wouldn't have
1:13:28
passed has nothing to do with Mike Johnson.
1:13:31
Adam Curry: No, but that's why they're all focused on him focus
1:13:34
on Him, not on us. Because and I'm gonna go there. These people
1:13:38
did indeed receive a lot of money. And I'm talking Rubio,
1:13:42
McCall, these are not Jews, by the way. They all got money from
1:13:46
AIPAC and I decided, You know what, I'm gonna go look at this
1:13:48
AIPAC outfit. And AIPAC is a 501. C four, which means they're
1:13:54
a lobbying organization. And I'm like, Well, where does that
1:13:58
money come from? Of course, no one has to disclose this. And
1:14:02
then I find it they get their money from the AI E F. Ever
1:14:07
heard of them? No, no, no, neither at IAEIF at a
1:14:12
EIFD en.org is the America Israel Education Foundation, the
1:14:18
charitable and literate, they have a one page website, one
1:14:21
page, the charitable organization affiliated with
1:14:27
AIPAC, so and their 501 C three. So when you donate to them, this
1:14:32
is what we call a cut out when you donate to them. You get a
1:14:35
tax write off and they then ship all that money over to AIPAC.
1:14:40
And wouldn't you know it? Lockheed Martin $1.9 million
1:14:44
dollars north of Grumman $1.253 million, General Atomics $1.229
1:14:51
million. This is how it works. The defense contractors donate
1:14:56
to a EIF a EIF said $35 million. And this 2019 numbers because
1:15:03
very because, you know, they don't have to report either. So
1:15:06
I'm just getting stuff that has been reverse engineered on the
1:15:09
internet, you know, from open secrets type places. That's how
1:15:13
the money flows. And then you can always say, is the juice.
1:15:18
But no.
1:15:20
John C Dvorak: And unless the Jews are running Lockheed
1:15:22
Martin, I don't think so.
1:15:25
Adam Curry: If you look at the board of directors of AI, F,
1:15:29
it's three times as long as APAC, APAC is that's all your
1:15:33
your Jewish names? Oh, yes. Oh, you were doing it here and boy,
1:15:37
voted for Israel. But AI F. That's where all the contractors
1:15:40
are on the board. And so I did the unthinkable. Oh, I did the
1:15:47
unthinkable. I went and marked up all 270 pages of this bill.
1:15:55
This is a procurement bill. That's what this is. I'm just
1:16:01
going to run through. What's interesting is that this bill is
1:16:07
entitled as an act to amend title 38 us not United States
1:16:10
Code to make certain improvements relating to the
1:16:13
eligibility of veterans to receive reimbursements for
1:16:16
emergency treatment furnish through the veterans community
1:16:19
care program. And for other purposes. It's always fun to see
1:16:23
it they take they take a bill that's already on the floor
1:16:25
that's gone through the to the basic stuff, and then they just
1:16:29
rip it all out and replace it. And this thing is amazing. It
1:16:34
consists of a couple of divisions Israel's security
1:16:37
supplemental appropriations act Ukraine security, simple
1:16:41
supplemental appropriations act, Indo Pacific security
1:16:46
supplemental appropriation Appropriations Act, the century
1:16:49
peace through strength act, couldn't be more Orwellian
1:16:55
century peace 20 I'm sorry, 21st century peace through strength,
1:16:59
the fend Act which is fend off fentanyl, the rebuilding
1:17:05
economic prosperity and opportunity for Ukrainians x.
1:17:08
That's that's a big slush fund. Then we have protecting
1:17:12
Americans from foreign adversary controlled applications that you
1:17:16
tick tock act. Then we have the ship X The Fight Crime Act, the
1:17:21
Masha act. There's a whole bunch of stuff in here, but I just
1:17:24
want to rattle off some numbers. I know how to read these things
1:17:27
by now. So we start with Department of Defense operations
1:17:31
and maintenance $4.4 billion transferred to the accounts
1:17:37
under the heading operation and maintenance, procurement, and
1:17:41
revolving and management funds. So that's not going to Ukraine.
1:17:47
But the Secretary of Defense will notify the congressional
1:17:49
defense committees of the details of such transfers. So
1:17:53
that a determination that all or part of the funds transferred
1:17:55
from this appropriation are not necessarily for the purposes
1:17:58
provided here in so he can do whatever he wants with it. No
1:18:02
wonder they replace them. Then we have it divided procurement
1:18:06
of ammunition for the army $801 million to respond to the
1:18:12
situation in Israel and other uses. Defense wide $5.2 billion
1:18:19
to respond to the situation Israel and for related expenses.
1:18:23
4 billion given to the Secretary of Defense to provide for the
1:18:26
Government of Israel for procurement, ie buying from us
1:18:30
for the Iron Dome, David sling, short range rockets. 1.2 billion
1:18:35
will be for the procurement of the iron beam defense. So that's
1:18:39
just being spent on us. Then they have some defense
1:18:42
production act stuff in there. 190 8 million is not that
1:18:45
interesting, but then we go to additional 2.4 for the
1:18:50
Department of Defense for transfer to military personnel
1:18:54
accounts operation and maintenance and procurement.
1:18:57
Defense working capital funds, it's not going anywhere. It's
1:19:01
not going to Ukraine, or Israel or anywhere. Then we have titled
1:19:05
to Department of Homeland Security. We throw them $10
1:19:09
million dollars just for operations, FEMA, FEMA, do they
1:19:14
operate in the Ukraine FEMA, FEMA 390,000,200 and 30 million
1:19:21
for nonprofit security grant program to eligible nonprofit
1:19:26
organizations to prevent, prepare for protect against and
1:19:29
respond to acts of terrorism to nonprofits. This is dynamite.
1:19:37
Then we and
1:19:38
John C Dvorak: then to the if you're on the other end of the
1:19:40
tit thrilled Of
1:19:41
Adam Curry: course then the Department of State 100 50
1:19:43
million just to fly around 100 million for security worldwide
1:19:48
security. They will get 4 million to the odd the Office of
1:19:51
the Inspector General to oversee everything, then to the
1:19:55
diplomatic and consular services. 50 million for general
1:19:59
stuff case needed fly on jets jets, I guess you mostly jets,
1:20:03
mostly jets, bilateral economic assistance $5.6 billion to
1:20:10
address humanitarian needs. Emergency Food and Shelter of
1:20:14
vulnerable populations and communities doesn't specify just
1:20:19
5.6 billion. And then my favorite Department of State
1:20:23
Migration and Refugee Assistance $3.495 billion for humanitarian
1:20:29
needs of vulnerable populations to come in through the southern
1:20:32
border. Yeah, I mean, this is literally
1:20:36
John C Dvorak: a $10,000 credit card. Yes. Here you have come on
1:20:40
welcome mirror. It's not you. You're not a $10,000 credit
1:20:43
card. Yeah. And there are guys that we know for a fact because
1:20:47
they've said so have come in, grabbed a credit card escaped
1:20:51
out of the country, and come back in again. Oh, to get a
1:20:56
second credit card Eva, Phoebe knows. Yes. Okay,
1:20:59
Adam Curry: baby. Okay. Then, in case someone has some issues,
1:21:05
we're gonna give away three and a half billion dollars for
1:21:07
foreign military financing. You know, hey, you need financing.
1:21:11
We can give you a lease on this stuff. We have financing
1:21:15
available. I mean, literally with 5 million Hey, Phoebe
1:21:18
coming with 5 million for the sales department. Expenses for
1:21:24
general costs of address of administering military
1:21:27
assistance and sales. They've even got the salespersons in
1:21:31
there. Tila Yeah, Phoebe Come here. Let me skip ahead here.
1:21:37
There's a couple other things because then we get into my
1:21:40
fifth Pheebs Come here, baby. Come here. US youth Pheebs
1:21:44
fevers, US AI D $3 million for monitoring of assistance made
1:21:50
available for Gaza. So we give we gave give both sides some
1:21:53
money. Go look, go make sure that the missiles hit right.
1:21:55
Here's $3 million. Go monitor. Then we have Okay, now we go to
1:22:02
Ukraine. This is great. For Military Department of Defense
1:22:06
for military personnel. 207 million, that's our people were
1:22:09
paying them military for the Marine Corps. $3.358 million for
1:22:15
our Marines. 23 million for the Air Force, 4 million for Space
1:22:21
Force, Phoebe Space Force, Space Force. operation and maintenance
1:22:27
for the army $4.8 billion to respond to the situation in
1:22:31
Ukraine and for related expenses, provided that such
1:22:36
amount is designated by Congress as for being for an emergency
1:22:39
requirement pursuant to this section, so they're just gonna
1:22:42
hold on to it. We give that slush money. It's called Oh,
1:22:46
it's all slush, money, operation and maintenance for the Navy.
1:22:49
are we sending the Navy to Ukraine 976 million, the Marine
1:22:54
Corps 69 million. And they just this is it just keeps on going.
1:23:00
But here's the I love this one. General operation and
1:23:04
maintenance defense wides $27.9 billion to spend to respond to
1:23:10
the situation Ukraine and for related expenses. So this is a
1:23:15
huge procurement bill, which means buying stuff and I go on
1:23:19
and on but I want to get to the Navy because the Navy has
1:23:25
weapons procurement 706 million to respond to the situation in
1:23:30
Ukraine because you know, the Navy's got to be there. Other
1:23:33
procurement 26 million just in case you need it. Let's get to
1:23:37
the submarines await for the Air Force $3.2 billion research and
1:23:45
development we need some research and development 80
1:23:49
million for who was that for for to remain available to respond
1:23:54
to the situation in Ukraine. That's for the army. The Navy
1:23:59
gets 13 million for research and development and for testing. Air
1:24:04
Force 406 million. I mean, this is bull crap. That's absolute
1:24:09
bull crap. But then they added the cool things down at the
1:24:11
bottom here. They got some nuclear stuff in there. Oh, here
1:24:17
it is. This I love this title to Department of Energy programs
1:24:21
for an additional amount for science $98 million. It
1:24:25
literally says science in the bill in quotes for an additional
1:24:30
amount for science. What does that even mean? That's code.
1:24:35
John C Dvorak: If it's in quotes, it's code but which code
1:24:38
for
1:24:38
Adam Curry: something we don't know. And then we go back to
1:24:40
Department of Health and Human Services
1:24:42
John C Dvorak: it could be hookers MMA.
1:24:45
Adam Curry: I love it loses science and quote could be your
1:24:48
right could be hookers and blow the Department of Health and
1:24:51
Human Services 481 million for refugee and entrant assistance
1:24:55
activities. What? A half a billion dollars. dollars to help
1:25:00
more people come in.
1:25:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the ones they're flying in.
1:25:04
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Precisely. All right, we go down to that,
1:25:11
well, then the President gets 30 $39 million to throw around
1:25:15
for general expenses. The here's the economic support fund, this
1:25:22
is the real money that is going to quote unquote, Ukraine $7.89
1:25:27
billion. But that is going into the Ukraine fund. You see,
1:25:33
that's where everybody is going to be sucking off of that money,
1:25:36
the Freedom Support Act and seed the support for East European
1:25:40
Democracy Act, they put that money in there. And then you go
1:25:44
there with your little nonprofit. And that's where you
1:25:47
get. That's, that's where you get some money from, and I'm
1:25:51
sure Zelinsky and all those guys get from that money, then
1:25:54
they've got more loan guarantees that we put in there. This, this
1:25:58
was fun. They changed some words around and so now money instead
1:26:04
of going to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization,
1:26:07
organization, NATO and its allies, it now can go to North
1:26:11
Atlantic Treaty Organization, allies, major non NATO allies,
1:26:16
and the Indo Pacific region $8 billion was 4 billion they
1:26:21
doubled it to 8 billion, and now they can give it to anybody they
1:26:24
want even a non NATO ally. That's probably Taiwan, I'm
1:26:30
guessing. Then on page 55, there was no I'm almost done here,
1:26:36
page 55. There was something interesting. On page 55, where
1:26:44
this is about the what do you call those attack comes? This is
1:26:50
a big thing in the news. The that's the 300 mile army
1:26:56
tactical missile systems. So yeah, okay, so this bill, as
1:27:04
soon as practicable after the date of enactment of this
1:27:07
division, the president shall transfer long range army
1:27:10
tactical missile systems to the Government of Ukraine, that's
1:27:13
the attacker comes to assist the Government of Ukraine in
1:27:16
defending itself and achieving victory against the Russian
1:27:20
Federation. Notification. If the President determines that
1:27:24
executive, the transfer of long range army tactical missile
1:27:27
systems to the Government of Ukraine pursuant to subsection A
1:27:30
will be detrimental to the national security interest of
1:27:32
the United States, the President may withhold such transfer. So
1:27:37
this is just they're just going to hold this intel, because it's
1:27:41
always going to be it's always gonna be dangerous. We'll see if
1:27:44
they actually send them over. And so then they probably won't.
1:27:50
I don't think so either. Okay, so then we go to the submarines
1:27:53
$1.9 billion to respond to the situation in Taiwan, for
1:27:59
operation and maintenance procurement of submarines. We
1:28:04
add to that $2.1 billion for submarine bases. additional
1:28:11
money, 1.9 billion for the Columbia class submarine and 200
1:28:15
million a 200 million for the Virginia class submarine. So
1:28:19
that's your pivot to the Indo Pacific. And I'll skip
1:28:22
everything else. It's all marked up in the show notes. But at the
1:28:25
very bottom, we have my favorite, which is the repo Act,
1:28:35
the repo act. This is the rebuilding economic prosperity
1:28:43
and opportunity for Ukraine's act. And this is where we get to
1:28:48
take the Russian money. And so it's clearly spelled out there's
1:28:53
$300 billion of Russian money in the system. 190 billion is in
1:28:58
Belgium through Euro clear, we have about I think 10 billion or
1:29:04
15 billion that is within within our purview. And this authorizes
1:29:09
the g7 countries, we're good to go. We're taking the money.
1:29:13
We're stealing the Russian money.
1:29:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is the end of our economic system. I
1:29:18
would
1:29:18
Adam Curry: agree. It is the most insane thing I've ever
1:29:23
seen. And of course, you know, Putin, Putin is like we also
1:29:31
have prepared an answer. Speaker of Russian upper house of
1:29:34
parliament says, we have a draft law which we are ready to
1:29:37
consider immediately on retaliatory measures and the
1:29:41
Europeans will lose more than we do.
1:29:44
John C Dvorak: Whatever I bet you that's true. Yeah, but
1:29:46
Adam Curry: what do you think they'll do?
1:29:48
John C Dvorak: Well, they can confiscate all the European and
1:29:50
American investments in Russia and there's definitely more than
1:29:54
yeah, that's that minuscule amount. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
1:29:58
That also cut out the oil guys. and who really we are there?
1:30:02
It's could be it's a bad idea. Yeah, this is not what you you
1:30:06
can be you have your wars, you're gonna have your kinetic
1:30:08
wars and you can shoot at each other but you start Seto and
1:30:11
money's Arab tissue. Yes, surreptitiously stealing money
1:30:15
where it's agreed upon that you don't do that, because it has,
1:30:18
because those systems are not based on you know, just
1:30:21
bullcrap. They're, they're solid, they're, they work for a
1:30:24
reason, and you mess with them. This is no good. This is the end
1:30:29
of American hegemony, this is going to screw up everything if
1:30:32
we go ahead with this stupid idea of stealing money. This in
1:30:38
a system that's secure. Here's
1:30:41
Adam Curry: two clips from CBS face, the nation about these
1:30:44
procurement bills. And they're even lying here. But is
1:30:48
Unknown: this Ukraine aid that finally has moved at President
1:30:52
Solinsky was on another network this morning, and he said the US
1:30:55
will send a signal with this, that this will not be a second
1:30:59
Afghanistan, the US will stay with Ukraine. As
1:31:04
you know, I was a supporter of the defense supplemental. This
1:31:07
is Senator Mark Warner. And I think it's not just going to be
1:31:11
important for Ukraine, as you and I've talked about before,
1:31:13
it's going to be really important for the industrial
1:31:16
base of America, which has atrophied dramatically 60% of
1:31:20
this bill goes into building weapons or the from submarines,
1:31:24
two and
1:31:25
155 districts to which is surprising to get through that
1:31:28
all
1:31:29
over the place. So I think
1:31:31
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, as Dan Sullivan, Senator Dan Sullivan,
1:31:33
he just submarines is all great
1:31:35
Unknown: all over the place. So I think it's important. But
1:31:38
again, we're kind of given Joe Biden a bit of a pass on, not
1:31:42
just as I mentioned, how we got here, but the execution of the
1:31:46
Ukraine. Effort is, you know, literally every major weapons
1:31:51
system that the Ukrainians have said they need from high Mars
1:31:55
patriots, stingers, tanks, F 16. Now attack comes every single
1:32:01
weapon system, this administration, delays, delays
1:32:05
because they're scared of, you know, making Vladimir Putin mad.
1:32:09
Yeah,
1:32:10
Adam Curry: they can make them real math when they steal the
1:32:12
money. But that's why I think they put it in here that the
1:32:14
President can still delay the attack comes which is, oh, it's
1:32:18
all about the attack comes from Senator
1:32:20
Unknown: 61 billion in aid to Ukraine, about 60% of that stays
1:32:24
as an investment into the US industrial base. As I understand
1:32:27
it, the US industrial base, President Solinsky said this
1:32:32
morning on another network, it's important that they get crucial
1:32:35
long range artillery, like attack guns, is that what this
1:32:39
money will pay for? And if so, when will they actually get
1:32:43
them?
1:32:43
These materials will be in transit by the end of the week.
1:32:49
And on that schedule, what it will do is it's clearly been the
1:32:53
case that the Ukrainians morale has been great, but it's been
1:32:58
undermined the last couple of months or damaged literally,
1:33:02
Adam Curry: I was I was enrolled at dead but it's great given out
1:33:05
Unknown: rationed bullets, eight to 10 bullets a day and on
1:33:09
artillery shells, Russians tend to one you can't underestimate
1:33:13
that Ukrainians grit determination but if they don't
1:33:17
have the materials yeah they can't carry this fight to
1:33:21
get those long range artillery
1:33:24
yes
1:33:24
not just ammunition The
1:33:26
attack comes I believe the administration was prepared well
1:33:30
months to to provide attack rooms. It is written into this
1:33:34
legislation. So
1:33:35
Adam Curry: now I'll be the first to say that this is
1:33:38
clearly supporting our GDP. But we're not sending any of this to
1:33:43
Ukraine. Now I mean, we have the stuff we just didn't want to
1:33:46
give it to him we I mean what now we can send everything all
1:33:49
of us Oh, now we got bullets. But because we made bullets
1:33:52
overnight now know the military, the defense industrial base,
1:33:57
which keeps our What else do we make here? We make war stuff.
1:34:02
And a cyber truck 4000 cybertruck jets and jets. Well
1:34:06
it's war stuff submarines. These are big things you ever see that
1:34:09
submarines dot build submarines.com on the sports
1:34:12
fields. This is gonna be big business. You want to get a
1:34:15
business get into that business. And what are the rest of the
1:34:17
American people get? We get Ukraine flags waving waving you
1:34:21
idiots. Here's a Christian Welker, your buddy speaking with
1:34:26
the Lenski. Now is this it brother Brother, Volodymyr? Is
1:34:31
this do you need more? Can you When will this be it
1:34:34
Unknown: President Solinsky Can you give Americans a sense of
1:34:37
the timeline? Will you still need as much aid this time next
1:34:43
year?
1:34:43
Or do you think you can turn the corner on Russia? What's the
1:34:46
timeline
1:34:50
depends on like how soon they get this age. There are so many
1:34:53
variables, so many factors. And sometimes when we protect the
1:34:58
important The bottom line is you retreat because you don't have
1:35:03
enough to force us into equipment. And then we taking
1:35:07
the client would take two or three times more. Oh, okay. I'm
1:35:11
not saying that this is how it's gonna end up. But I would like
1:35:15
us to be open and very, very specific. From the moment we get
1:35:19
our hands on these weapons systems. Well, from that moment,
1:35:25
we can talk about the timeline,
1:35:29
Adam Curry: we need three times more. That's what he's saying.
1:35:34
Two to three today, I just want to be open with you guys. Give
1:35:37
me some credit. I need two or three more. There was an
1:35:41
interesting little tidbit that came up on Face The Nation, as
1:35:47
they were talking about, you know, this being a new Cold War.
1:35:50
It's, you know, it's, we're, well, now we have a Cold War
1:35:54
with Russia and with China. These are short clips. Let's
1:35:58
play these two because something interesting came up first here
1:36:01
is Who's David E. Sanger? Who is this Jumoke.
1:36:05
John C Dvorak: Singer. That's the guy was from New York, New
1:36:07
York Times. New York Times today. He's a reporter. Okay.
1:36:12
Unknown: The New Cold Wars are quite different market. We've
1:36:15
got Russia and China coming together in a periodic
1:36:19
partnership. I wouldn't say it's a full Alliance. We have other
1:36:23
players like Iran and North Korea, as you were discussing
1:36:27
with earlier guests, supplying them becoming sort of what the
1:36:32
Iranians call an Axis of Resistance to the US. It is a
1:36:36
far more volatile, I think, far more dangerous period than we
1:36:41
had, even then. And yet, as you point out, our ability to
1:36:46
discuss it as a nation has somewhat degraded you watch
1:36:49
those Kennedy Nixon debates and put aside who was sweating and
1:36:53
who looked young and vigorous and all that it was an
1:36:56
incredibly sophisticated argument largely about nuclear
1:37:00
deterrence. I'm afraid that we're not having that incredibly
1:37:04
sophisticated argument today, you know, 60 years more than 60
1:37:08
years later, if you believe that there is something of a new Iron
1:37:12
Curtain coming down a place where you're going to divide the
1:37:16
US, the NATO nations against China, Russia, Iran, others,
1:37:21
it's somewhere in that border land between Ukraine and Russia.
1:37:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, demilitarized zone, there you go. Good job,
1:37:28
everybody. You move it up into Ukraine. Fantastic. But here's,
1:37:33
here's the kicker, the
1:37:34
Unknown: book opens with the days running up to the war in
1:37:39
Ukraine. And while there was certainly lots of indicators
1:37:43
coming from American satellites, and signals, intelligence, and
1:37:46
so forth, in the end, one of the key indicators of the Russians
1:37:52
were getting ready to roll came from Microsoft, whose engineers
1:37:57
were noticing that malware that had been placed by the Russians
1:38:01
and Ukrainian government agencies were being activated
1:38:05
and sent a notice through their various channels, which
1:38:07
ultimately went to the White House. At the end of the day,
1:38:11
what kept Ukraine running was some combination of Microsoft
1:38:16
and Amazon, moving all of their data to the cloud. And then Elon
1:38:21
Musk coming in and providing Starlink so they could
1:38:23
communicate to that cloud credible. Something we never saw
1:38:27
in the old Cold War's
1:38:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, I read that as Microsoft, Amazon and Starlink
1:38:34
are all part of the intelligence services and spying on everybody
1:38:38
and everything. Didn't the engineers notice some spyware
1:38:44
was activated, please? Yeah,
1:38:46
John C Dvorak: I agree. I'm not at a total agreement. But I
1:38:49
agree with this nonsense that all of a sudden, I mean, first
1:38:53
one thing if the spyware is there,
1:38:56
Adam Curry: get rid of it. Yeah. Run that antivirus. Watch it
1:39:00
John C Dvorak: and wait for it to be activate. Oh, look, it's
1:39:02
just been activated by
1:39:04
Adam Curry: Hunter five people Come on run it. That'll
1:39:07
John C Dvorak: probably do it. Probably all it takes.
1:39:10
Adam Curry: But wow, this this is such a this whole thing. And
1:39:15
meanwhile, you know, we're being spied on by our own intelligence
1:39:19
services. We got net neutrality to block any kind of private
1:39:23
communications we want to have. It's obviously what are we all
1:39:29
doing? Scrolling on tick tock. Oh, I'm sorry. Tick tock tick
1:39:33
tock, click clock tock tick. Tock tock Scott
1:39:35
Unknown: McFarlane has got the latest on that possible ban on
1:39:38
tick tock Scott, what
1:39:39
do we know? Tony tick tock is now on the clock here to be sued
1:39:45
by their China based owner or face the prospect of abandoned
1:39:48
the United States within that year shutting down access to 170
1:39:52
million American users and millions of small businesses in
1:39:56
a Congress that seemingly can't agree on anything this past
1:39:59
week. overwhelming bipartisan support amid concerns China
1:40:03
could use Tiktok to exploit and access private Americans
1:40:07
information. One lawmaker called it a spy balloon in your phone
1:40:11
and others say that's a possible tool for propaganda. A big issue
1:40:15
as we enter an election season. Tick tock is indicated they will
1:40:18
challenge this in the courts file a lawsuit, they argued this
1:40:22
is an infringement of First Amendment rights. But Tony
1:40:24
President Biden is expected to sign this bill into law today.
1:40:30
Adam Curry: This great, of course, is not going to go away.
1:40:33
It'll just be tick tock with USA inside. Steve Minuchin. Speaking
1:40:40
of Tic Toc,
1:40:41
John C Dvorak: and I gotta let him get it.
1:40:42
Adam Curry: Oh, someone's got it. You know, it's gonna be it'd
1:40:44
be Google. Yeah,
1:40:46
John C Dvorak: it'd be something like that. Because I've already
1:40:48
read that Google and Microsoft is best candidates. Although
1:40:52
Adam Curry: meta, their stock price took a dump yesterday,
1:40:56
even though they had reasonable earnings.
1:40:59
John C Dvorak: I don't know it'll be back. That's just a I
1:41:01
don't even know why they glitch occurred. But
1:41:03
Adam Curry: a glitch. Glitch.
1:41:06
John C Dvorak: It's a glitch.
1:41:08
Adam Curry: Zuckerberg announced the oh, we're gonna invest in
1:41:10
AI. Everyone went Oh, no, jump
1:41:13
John C Dvorak: that thing that may actually be the moment where
1:41:16
the pivot the pivot the pivot is to people stop paying attention
1:41:20
to AI. You don't have to say AI anymore? I do. I do have this
1:41:23
clip blinking in China to talk about.
1:41:26
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm sure that's what he's talking about. Here's
1:41:30
your
1:41:30
Unknown: clip. Because when our allies are stronger, I want to
1:41:32
make this current again and again. When our allies are
1:41:35
stronger, we are stronger. The
1:41:37
package includes a separate measure that would force tick
1:41:39
tock to divest from its Chinese parent company bytedance, or be
1:41:43
banned on US App Stores. Tiktok has about a year to do so. And
1:41:47
that's because of data privacy concerns, as the Chinese regime
1:41:51
can access tic TOCs user data for any user that uses tic tock
1:41:55
in the world. At the same time. Antony Blinken, the Secretary of
1:41:59
State is in China, and among many of the topics he'll be
1:42:02
discussing with officials there are human rights, the State
1:42:05
Department released a human rights report documenting the
1:42:09
atrocities and crimes against humanity still being committed
1:42:12
by the Chinese regime today in China, including those against
1:42:15
wiegers and following Gong, Falun Gong is a spiritual
1:42:18
practice based on the principles of truthfulness, compassion, and
1:42:21
forbearance. Here's madonn Patel, the deputy principals
1:42:24
spokesperson at the State Department on the Secretary's
1:42:27
visit to China. He said he would address human rights. But on
1:42:30
this report that came out on Monday Well, he specifically
1:42:34
addressed the persecution of religious groups like the
1:42:36
Uyghurs and Falun Gong, and what have tox been like on this in
1:42:40
the past. So
1:42:41
what I can say is that in every engagement that we have had with
1:42:44
the People's Republic of China, since the onset of this
1:42:47
administration, human rights have always been on the agenda,
1:42:51
and they will continue to be so and I have no doubt that human
1:42:55
rights will be discussed. This week, while the Secretary is
1:42:58
there.
1:43:00
John C Dvorak: There was the agenda is put some on the
1:43:03
agenda. There's some
1:43:05
Adam Curry: additional stuff, that it wasn't just the so
1:43:08
called tick tock bill, which actually is 270 days for tick
1:43:14
tock to bite dance to divest of Tik Tok to an American company,
1:43:18
by IE, we're gonna steal it from you, the president can extend
1:43:21
that three months after the enactment of this act, tick tock
1:43:28
has to start making available all data all video all posts all
1:43:32
pictures in machine readable format, so that people can
1:43:35
export that and download it to import into Google and YouTube,
1:43:41
I presume. But it also goes for any technology company the
1:43:47
president deems to be. I'm paraphrasing here, operated by a
1:43:52
foreign entity, an adverse foreign entity, if it has more
1:43:56
than a million users. Except of course, if you're a price
1:44:01
comparison app. Now if you're on Amazon or ordering app, or if
1:44:06
you're Airbnb, that doesn't count, but then they have this
1:44:09
no technology for terror act, which is not discussed. I don't
1:44:14
know if it's anything but a foreign produced item shall be
1:44:18
subject to the Export Administration Regulations. If
1:44:23
the product is I guess, you can't import anything that is,
1:44:29
in general a license shall be required to export re export or
1:44:33
in country transfer a foreign produced item from abroad that
1:44:38
meets the product scope requirements described in
1:44:40
subsection B which is bits and bobs. As I'm not I don't
1:44:47
understand that one yet. But there's something coming you
1:44:53
know, metal got kicked out of China.
1:44:58
John C Dvorak: So that would have killed for a stock Drop.
1:45:01
Yeah,
1:45:01
Adam Curry: I wonder that happened recently I think
1:45:07
John C Dvorak: well, something's up. Nobody would. Yeah, this
1:45:09
whole the idealism of the internet is over
1:45:12
Adam Curry: here. Here's the EU Not to be outdone, hey, hey, we
1:45:17
got to get on that Tiktok bandwagon, man. I know, let's
1:45:21
see if we can steal some money of our own, grabbing
1:45:24
Unknown: your phone and scrolling through videos for
1:45:27
hours on end. It's a behavior that's become part of our daily
1:45:30
lives, and one which Tik Tok is seeking to encourage further
1:45:35
through its new feature Tik Tok light. The applications reward
1:45:39
program allows users to earn points for watching and
1:45:42
interacting with content, which they can then trade for gift
1:45:45
cards on partner websites, and new way to gamify and monetize
1:45:50
attention, which Brussels say could be as addictive as
1:45:54
cigarettes. In the European Commission on Monday launched a
1:45:57
probe into tic toc lights impact on mental health, especially for
1:46:01
children, in what it says could be a breach of the Digital
1:46:04
Service Act. It's given Chinese group by dance until Wednesday
1:46:09
to argue its case or face being suspended from operating in
1:46:13
Europe. So unless Tiktok provides compelling proof of its
1:46:16
safety, which he has failed to do until now, we stand ready to
1:46:20
trigger digital service acts interim measures, including the
1:46:24
suspension of the Tiktok light reward
1:46:26
program, tick tock says it's already taken measures to limit
1:46:29
addiction, including placing a cap on daily rewards and banning
1:46:34
users under 18. from accessing the new feature. It remains to
1:46:38
be seen whether these arguments will be enough to convince EU
1:46:41
regulators that tick tock does enough to protect children.
1:46:45
Adam Curry: I mean, those guys are so genius, those tick tock
1:46:48
guys, they actually did one of those things that everybody
1:46:51
said, you know, well, one day, you'll get paid for your
1:46:53
attention. And they do it. Hey, the watch this ad will give you
1:46:58
some points, some tick tock points,
1:47:01
John C Dvorak: you can read a new phenomenon this has been
1:47:04
tried and tried over the years since even beginning before our
1:47:07
show, which is long time ago. There were all these efforts to
1:47:12
do this and do that and you get points. And there's games,
1:47:15
there's all kinds of games where you get a weapon, if you did you
1:47:18
follow through on certain things, you get an extra weapon
1:47:20
or weapon. Or you could buy the weapon on eBay. And there was
1:47:25
all that nobody complained and now they've they've managed to
1:47:29
do a better job doing is better, better, better is better than
1:47:34
what has been attempted so far. And so they're pumped up
1:47:37
punished for it. This reminds me of, you know, the early days of
1:47:42
the Internet, or the early days of personal computer technology
1:47:45
in the 70s I'd say when Oh, everything is going to be
1:47:49
electronic. All the books will be available electronically. And
1:47:53
it'll be a giant library with every all knowledge will be
1:47:56
accumulated in and you'll be able to look it up and find
1:47:59
anything you want. And once they started doing that, bitching and
1:48:04
moaning about oh no copy, right? They copied my book, you know,
1:48:09
out of print book.
1:48:12
Adam Curry: Nobody reads anymore. Nobody cares. The audio
1:48:16
books, the audio books. I wanted to tell you because I was
1:48:20
listening to bit of DHL unplugged which you can listen
1:48:22
to on Tuesdays they do it live. Is it nine Eastern? And it goes
1:48:27
on now? Yes, it's six o'clock. Well, West Coast coming up on
1:48:30
episode 700. Help. Yes, those guys. Oh, the reason why Spotify
1:48:37
got the bump. This is great story. They, you know, they
1:48:40
added audiobooks. And because they have audio books, there's
1:48:44
some law, or some I would call the loophole in the law, that
1:48:50
they now are not just providing music, forget the podcast part
1:48:54
from home. They're not just providing music, but they're
1:48:57
providing a bundle, which means they can give the artists 25%
1:49:02
less money. That's why their cost just went down by 25%.
1:49:08
Because each user that actually pays or there's money coming in
1:49:12
from ads, they have to give less to the artists because they're
1:49:15
now a bundle company instead of just a music company. That's why
1:49:19
what yeah,
1:49:21
John C Dvorak: they miss that one is beautiful. Genius. Oh
1:49:25
Adam Curry: Swedes man,
1:49:26
John C Dvorak: we're bitching about tick tock. Yeah. Spotify
1:49:30
people should be the ones that are exploring ated just stealing
1:49:34
from the poor creators.
1:49:38
Adam Curry: Refrain from comment. While speaking of guns,
1:49:44
you said something about you when a weapon. New York is now
1:49:49
off their rocker. But apparently it's YouTube's algorithm now
1:49:53
under fire
1:49:54
Unknown: strong words tonight from the district attorney of
1:49:56
Manhattan aimed at YouTube for an algorithm that promotes video
1:50:00
Go showing kids how to build an illegal fire. They're calling
1:50:03
it games to guns and law enforcement believes YouTube
1:50:06
isn't doing anything to stop it. Even though it's already against
1:50:10
the company's policy. Da Alvin Bragg reached out to the CEO of
1:50:14
YouTube about those guns on the streets.
1:50:17
Talking about gun and Saturday. Here's why when Susan Porter
1:50:20
Darla miles, all
1:50:21
you need is a computer and house in an interesting game. And you
1:50:26
can go from from games to guns in 15 minutes.
1:50:29
Here we see investigators conducting a Call of Duty search
1:50:32
on YouTube, that with just a few clicks can lead to videos about
1:50:36
how to assemble guns that in real life kill people.
1:50:40
This is an algorithm that is driving people in particular our
1:50:45
use of a few clicks from watching a video game, to being
1:50:49
able to build guns to then in turn, walking around with ghost
1:50:53
guns on our street and then in our office because we've charged
1:50:55
him with a crime
1:50:56
Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg and senior
1:50:59
leadership of city ghost gun enforcement calling out YouTube
1:51:02
Wednesday afternoon, the DEA sending this letter to the CEO
1:51:05
of YouTube about instructional videos on how to assemble a
1:51:09
ghost gun being actively pushed by YouTube's algorithms to
1:51:12
minors who begin watching clips of video games. Now there
1:51:16
Adam Curry: you go. They've got a ghost gun department in New
1:51:20
York. I like
1:51:20
John C Dvorak: it. Yeah, but I don't like to Add New York's do
1:51:23
and I like the idea that and go on YouTube and figure out how to
1:51:25
put together a ghost gun. That's cool. Just for YouTube.
1:51:29
Adam Curry: I have one clip I wanted to play, which is one of
1:51:32
the anything you see on C span anything that is done in Senate
1:51:36
in these hearings. It's all showboating. It's all like, look
1:51:39
at me Look at me, I'm Representative waltz, and I'm
1:51:42
holding the Air Force to account this
1:51:45
Unknown: bag of bushings stamped by machine I don't need a heist
1:51:50
don't need a high school diploma. It's not not anything
1:51:55
high tech about this. All of this bag is compliant with the
1:51:59
FAA specifications. How much do you think the Air Force pays for
1:52:03
this bag of bushings? I don't know, Congressman $90,000. This
1:52:09
is a $90,000 bag of bushings that you need for any jet
1:52:15
turbine engine just to operate. So the exorbitant cost due to
1:52:21
DOD only buying commercial parts from the OEMs, which essentially
1:52:25
sole source is literally driving us out of business. I mean, the
1:52:30
interest on our debt alone is now exceeding for the first time
1:52:33
in American history. The entire defense budget, we can't afford
1:52:38
it anymore. Oh,
1:52:41
Adam Curry: it costs it costs 100 bucks that bag of brushes.
1:52:45
And we're paying 90, Chagas
1:52:47
John C Dvorak: bushings, brushes
1:52:48
Adam Curry: bushings. And we're paying 90 $90,000 for it. Yeah,
1:52:52
John C Dvorak: this is nothing new. But if you want to talk
1:52:54
about show, buddy, I have two clips. All right. By the King,
1:52:59
the King John Kennedy, who I've realized is a ridiculous show
1:53:06
boater. Yeah, he's funny, though. He's very funny. And
1:53:10
he's got he should have his own channel on YouTube. Because
1:53:12
there's probably 1000 videos of him badgering witnesses. Yeah.
1:53:17
And he does the best job because what he does is he first he gets
1:53:20
you to admit that you're an expert. And then he starts
1:53:23
asking questions that you can't answer. And then he doesn't
1:53:28
understand what you can answer since you're an expert. And will
1:53:31
let me then and he keeps asking the same question over and over
1:53:34
to humiliate these people. And he, but I kind of admire who he
1:53:39
humiliates, because in this case, it's his woman, Zarkon
1:53:42
Milon, who is some sort of a consultant to the government.
1:53:46
And she's a social truth, justice warrior who happens to
1:53:49
know something about tax law. So he brings her on it just to get
1:53:55
her to answer a couple of simple questions. I take his side on
1:53:59
this, but at the same time, realize that John Kennedy is
1:54:03
more of a kind of a show a bit showman in the way he does this
1:54:09
and it but it's enjoyable. I think there's a good break for
1:54:11
us, especially after analyzing the legislation. So here we go.
1:54:15
Unknown: Ms. Mellon is your is your expertise in the area. Mr.
1:54:20
Bond made this distinction? Is your expertise in the area of
1:54:24
tax avoidance or tax evasion or both?
1:54:28
I would say both. I think the lines there's a shame situations
1:54:32
where the lines might get blurry, especially on the
1:54:33
corporate side. But in my it's both, it's both in short, it's
1:54:39
both. Do
1:54:40
you believe that there are major American corporations that are
1:54:45
cheating on their taxes?
1:54:47
I think I think yes, there are cases where the transfer pricing
1:54:51
regulations are not being followed and Mr. Crisis
1:54:54
testimonials to that.
1:54:56
Who are the who are the five name the five American court
1:55:00
separations that are the biggest tax cheats. Maybe
1:55:03
Adam Curry: I should I should mention that she is from the
1:55:06
fact coalition and I believe elsewhere, but I believe these
1:55:11
are the people who want a global tax. Am I correct in saying that
1:55:15
John C Dvorak: you might be right. But the bigger question
1:55:17
is, Who names their daughter? Zor? Ken?
1:55:21
Unknown: Well, this is this is a question for the IRS. It's their
1:55:24
job to enforce the laws. So I wouldn't.
1:55:26
That's a pretty serious allegation you made there. And
1:55:29
I'm just asking you who they are.
1:55:31
There are cases pending against a number of companies until they
1:55:34
those cases conclude I am not Who do
1:55:37
you think they are? You're an expert in this area. I'm just
1:55:40
asking you. You talked a lot. And I've read some you writings
1:55:43
about American corporations cheating on their taxes? I'm
1:55:47
just asking you they are.
1:55:49
I wouldn't use the word cheating. I think that they are
1:55:53
taking advantage.
1:55:55
In your testimony.
1:55:57
I'm sorry, your testimony.
1:56:00
I'm just I'm not trying to trick you. I just want to know you.
1:56:03
You have been very vociferous in saying that American companies
1:56:09
are cheating. Okay, you will America, you're entitled to your
1:56:12
opinion, but you're an expert, and just tell me who they are.
1:56:16
I stand by that. I think that there is evidence to suggest
1:56:19
that some of these companies and the IRS has pursued cases
1:56:22
against a number of the companies that Mr. Curtis has
1:56:25
analyzed, including Apple and Microsoft, and I wouldn't say
1:56:31
tax cheat. I think that's putting it too strongly. And I
1:56:33
didn't use that word, then who are they?
1:56:38
Adam Curry: So she's Serbian, by birth, so that's why her name is
1:56:41
Zorka Zorka. The Serb? Surely you've heard of her?
1:56:46
John C Dvorak: Is she? Yeah, Orca. zorko. He just got he
1:56:51
hazards hanging dangling. And so I hate to play these clips,
1:56:56
because they're pretty long, but it's just fun to watch. Because
1:57:00
it's a style of that you anyone can adopt. If you've ever done
1:57:04
testimony, if ever we're especially with the government.
1:57:08
It's just a hone in on some weakness, and just keep hounding
1:57:13
a person who refuses really, it's just just a show showboater
1:57:18
herself, because she can't name anybody. Here we go. I
1:57:22
Unknown: wouldn't I wouldn't say tax cheats, but I think they are
1:57:26
crossing the legal lines that have been set by Congress and by
1:57:30
the IRS in the relevant regulations. And because the IRS
1:57:34
is outgunned, we are not able to
1:57:37
Adam Curry: do outgun they got 80,000 More VA positions to fill
1:57:41
and the money for it.
1:57:44
Unknown: Do you believe that their major American corporation
1:57:48
cheating on their taxes? I
1:57:50
believe they are coming very close to crossing the line and
1:57:53
it's difficult for IRS to line?
1:57:57
Are they crossing the line or not?
1:57:59
Well, it's up to the IRS to enforce the law. And if they
1:58:01
don't have to be your opinion, you are an expert. I think
1:58:04
there's a good case to be made that yes, they are prosecuted.
1:58:06
Yes. Yes. Who are they? That's up to the courts and the IRS to
1:58:10
determine
1:58:13
your made this allegation. But you don't want to say who they
1:58:16
are had. I mean, if you you know who they are. You just don't
1:58:20
want to tell us.
1:58:21
I think that's that's that's been explained by Mr. Curtis
1:58:27
values
1:58:27
to explain. You talk about tax cheats. I'm just asking you who
1:58:31
they are. And you don't want to tell us?
1:58:33
It's It's again, I think it's for the IRS enforce it. I need
1:58:38
to make sure that the IRS is properly
1:58:40
Do you have a list of these tax sheets? No, no. Okay. Have you
1:58:44
been to the IRS and said, Here's a list here of these companies
1:58:48
and they're cheating on their taxes and I can show you how
1:58:50
they're doing
1:58:50
it. No, I'm not. That's that's that's not I've I've never
1:58:55
practiced in that area of law, tax whistleblower lawyer you've
1:58:59
done
1:58:59
is run around saying that American companies are cheating
1:59:02
on their taxes. I can't tell you who they are. And I haven't been
1:59:06
the IRS to show my data to the IRS. But I want you to believe
1:59:11
me that they're cheating on me.
1:59:12
Adam Curry: I should have said, but Mr. Sen. Snitches get
1:59:15
stitches. Don't you know that is
1:59:17
Unknown: is that your testimony today? No,
1:59:20
Senator. No, that sure sounds like I know. I think that the
1:59:25
case again, some of these companies has been well
1:59:27
documented in the
1:59:30
public because I'm gonna run out of time. Tell me in the last 23
1:59:34
seconds here, here's your here's your chance. You believe there
1:59:38
major American corporations cheating on their tax? You just
1:59:42
You just testified that I believe you told me yes. Tell me
1:59:45
who they are.
1:59:46
I think they are the companies that Mr. Curtis discussed in his
1:59:49
in his testimony. Tell me it includes some of the big tech
1:59:52
companies or pharma companies that are the five worst I don't
1:59:56
have a ranking I have not compiled you don't want to say I
1:59:59
just I have and looked into that
2:00:01
you understand it makes it hard to believe your allegations if
2:00:04
he won't tell us who they are. talk's cheap. You ever heard
2:00:07
that expression? Thank you, Jim.
2:00:11
Adam Curry: That was good. Yeah,
2:00:14
John C Dvorak: I mean, but this is this is stick. He does what
2:00:16
he does, yeah, this stick here, it gets old. You can't listen to
2:00:20
it all the time. But every once in a while, you get some dummy
2:00:22
up there who's just swinging in the wind, and he's just taking
2:00:25
potshots at her. Yeah. And it continues, and it's just like,
2:00:29
they can't answer that question at all. And it makes you wonder
2:00:33
about the cut incompetence, basically, of all these
2:00:36
consultants and people that work within the government are she's,
2:00:39
Adam Curry: she's this this fact organization is a nonprofit 501
2:00:45
C three, they do about $5 million a year. And they have
2:00:48
not filed their 2020 to form nine tax cheats. She's a tax
2:00:53
cheat, she's in default. Having done 2022, let alone 2023. I'm
2:01:01
going to move to climate change. Now the true biggest danger we
2:01:05
have amongst us in our our crazy representative rented
2:01:10
representatives who we have elected, who are all all of them
2:01:14
are all in on this. I doubt us AIPAC funding it, but someone's
2:01:19
funding this climate stuff. And finally, we have a lead a little
2:01:25
bit of we're going to turn up the corner. And I'm going to
2:01:28
tell you what may be coming. This is from CBS
2:01:31
Unknown: for some analysis we want to bring on Melissa lon
2:01:33
she's a professor at Columbia University's climate school.
2:01:36
Tell me what a climate emergency is and and what that might
2:01:39
entail. I don't know if
2:01:40
Adam Curry: you heard this. But President Biden has alluded to a
2:01:44
climate emergency that he might be an executive order a climate
2:01:48
emergency what that
2:01:49
Unknown: might entail.
2:01:50
So when we talk about the potential for the President to
2:01:52
declare a climate emergency, what it's saying is, you know
2:01:54
what, there's a national emergency going on, and I need
2:01:57
extra powers to be able to respond to it to protect the US.
2:02:00
This is a contentious decision, if it's made this discussions
2:02:03
come up many times. But if it is made, then the President would
2:02:06
have additional powers in the short term, and immediately
2:02:09
and what what might those powers look like? And who would be the
2:02:13
first to be nervous about new powers the President might have?
2:02:16
In other words, I mean, would it be fossil Trump fuel companies?
2:02:19
What did? How would how might that work?
2:02:21
Adam Curry: How about the American citizens should be
2:02:23
worried about if Biden declares a climate emergency? We're in a
2:02:28
state of emergency? That could be COVID? Like powers? Could be
2:02:32
anything he wants? Once you have emergency powers? It's just the
2:02:36
beginning of the fun. Yeah.
2:02:37
Unknown: So if the President does this, he would have access
2:02:40
to a lot of empowers I know, what's been talked about is the
2:02:42
ability to control how we're able to sell fossil fuels, are
2:02:46
we able to export you're able to send it to different parts of
2:02:48
the world. Now, obviously, the countries that organizations
2:02:51
that depend on those exports, they would be concerned about it
2:02:53
as the companies. But that's not all that the President can do.
2:02:57
The president can do a lot to bolster up the manufacturing and
2:03:00
production of clean energy technologies, and combined with
2:03:03
some other powers that he has, or that he could take advantage
2:03:06
of, he could move the needle when it comes to climate change
2:03:08
and emissions. So it's a mixed bag. I will say when you talk to
2:03:11
companies, uncertainty is the worst. If I can plan around it,
2:03:17
I'm happy even if it's maybe not the outcome, I want it to be
2:03:19
uncertainty of is this going to happen? When might it happen?
2:03:22
And how might it be implemented? is a stress point? Yes, a
2:03:25
Adam Curry: stress point. Here's the best part. So yesterday
2:03:30
doesn't matter. Nozman. And he brings back and Obama favorite?
2:03:34
Because the first thing you do in an emergency is you get your
2:03:36
brown shirts on the streets.
2:03:38
Unknown: Let me just talk about the climate corps. How do you
2:03:42
understand the climate corps and what it's supposed to do it?
2:03:44
Obviously it echoes of FDR. of Hitler. What what are we getting
2:03:49
from the climate accord, which President discussed yesterday?
2:03:52
Adam Curry: From the climate car, we had to check your
2:03:55
climate regulations in your house? How was your thermostat?
2:03:58
You want the kind of car do you have?
2:04:00
Unknown: Yeah, so the Climate Corp is trying to address or at
2:04:02
least as an outsider, as a professor University, when I'm
2:04:05
studying it, is trying to address a couple different
2:04:07
things. One, we do not have the workforce that we need. If we
2:04:10
want to reduce emissions, if we want to clean up pollution, we
2:04:13
don't have people trained in different skills. We
2:04:16
Adam Curry: don't have people to clean up pollution. What what
2:04:19
does that even mean? Professor, we don't
2:04:21
Unknown: have people trained in the different skill sets that we
2:04:23
need. And we need them very quickly if we're going to
2:04:25
respond to climate change, which is already happening and already
2:04:28
affecting our health. So as a result of that, how do you train
2:04:31
up those people at the same time? show folks that there are
2:04:34
opportunities for all different skill sets all different
2:04:36
backgrounds to contribute positively in their communities
2:04:39
in their states?
2:04:40
Adam Curry: Everybody can join the climate corps. It's fun kids
2:04:44
join the climate corps get a cool uniform with an armband.
2:04:49
Yeah. These people are nuts. And this is this has got to be my
2:04:56
favorite climate Kook is a new climate Kook. So this is I think
2:05:03
this could be spun into a new y2k bonanza. And of course,
2:05:09
we'll completely forget that y2k. How about just for people
2:05:12
who are too young to remember, you have to realize that in the
2:05:18
year 2000, and leading up to the year 2000, we were told that to
2:05:22
your ramp to your ramp that the world was going to it was over.
2:05:27
The world was going to melt down. Just want to summarize the
2:05:30
y2k issue for everybody. Yeah,
2:05:32
John C Dvorak: there was a round, I think it was 97. But
2:05:37
definitely by 98, someone had figured out that when the year
2:05:41
2000 comes around, that all old COBOL and other Fortran and
2:05:47
other programs which are dominating some parts of
2:05:49
businesses couldn't get the date, right, when we flipped to
2:05:54
the year 2000, all of a sudden, it would become 1900, who knows
2:05:58
what. And because we'd go to 00, as opposed to 98 wouldn't want
2:06:03
Adam Curry: to go to like 1976, or something was going to reset
2:06:06
to some weird year, it was
2:06:08
John C Dvorak: going to reset the 1900 As far as I remember,
2:06:10
but it was going to reset to the wrong year and it was going to
2:06:13
screw up everything. Because now nothing will work. Airplanes
2:06:17
will
2:06:18
Adam Curry: die VanCleave would follow this
2:06:21
John C Dvorak: guy that with all the ATM machines are either just
2:06:24
going throwing money away
2:06:27
Adam Curry: money printing out of it. And
2:06:31
John C Dvorak: the lights of the greatest gonna go down. By the
2:06:33
way, Alex Jones was one of the top guys on this. Yeah. And I
2:06:37
still have some old clips from him going, Oh, it's beginning.
2:06:41
As you know, the lights have gone out in Cleveland. He was
2:06:46
all over it. And
2:06:48
Adam Curry: let me see do I have? Do we have something of
2:06:52
Alex Jones on Joe Rogan wrong about y2k? That's, that's what
2:06:57
is this? Oh,
2:06:57
John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, Alex was all he was Major y2k nut.
2:07:01
And But meanwhile, what was going really happening was that
2:07:03
the consultants were coming out of the woods, they were
2:07:07
printing, they weren't the money was literally printing money.
2:07:10
And I knew a couple of them. And I and I was you know, I was
2:07:14
skeptical from the beginning, because it didn't make any sense
2:07:16
to me that any of this stuff would happen, because it does
2:07:19
just doesn't work that way. And I had a couple of the greats, I
2:07:23
used to give a lot of speeches, and I was my y2k speech was
2:07:28
generally a mockery of all these predictions. Is
2:07:31
Adam Curry: this when your public speaking career ended
2:07:34
around 2000? No.
2:07:36
John C Dvorak: Well, actually, it did drop off a bit, because
2:07:39
speeches were quite popular. And, but it was like, and it was
2:07:44
a big major deal. And it ended up costing American businesses,
2:07:48
billions of dollars and fees and fixes that didn't, weren't
2:07:53
necessary and everything in between, and
2:07:55
Adam Curry: auditing, auditing and auditing, auditing. And it
2:08:00
John C Dvorak: contributed to the.com collapse and sunk the
2:08:03
economy. And it really never recovered. And when it finally
2:08:06
recovered, it was 2007 2008 when he had a secondary situation
2:08:11
where it was just folded. The economy just went under the
2:08:14
under the tent that was going down. The economy was never the
2:08:20
same, based on the two constructs of that of the
2:08:25
99 2000 2001. Era. That was the.com collapse combined with
2:08:30
the white to it y2k fiasco, a scam. And it we've never fully
2:08:36
recovered from that that down. Wow, that's things are much
2:08:39
better in the 90s than they are today.
2:08:41
Adam Curry: Interesting. Well, that's for sure. And that was
2:08:44
billions of dollars in 90 $99. That's when a billion dollars
2:08:49
meant something. I mean, big difference in inflation.
2:08:54
John C Dvorak: The y2k is still well, an issue we have.
2:08:57
Adam Curry: We have a climate change related y2k issue on the
2:09:02
horizon. The guy who's pushing it in this clip is sketchy. He's
2:09:07
a professor, but I think he's professor. Yeah, he's a
2:09:09
professor. But he I think he's onto something I think I think
2:09:13
this could be played out people will actually buy this,
2:09:16
Unknown: the more we see polar ice melt, the more scientists
2:09:20
tell us that climate change will have real world effects on our
2:09:23
lives. Melting glaciers likely mean rising sea levels,
2:09:27
threatening our coastlines. But it also means less ice at the
2:09:35
Earth's poles and more waterways spread around to other places.
2:09:39
And that's leading to the earth slowing down human activity has
2:09:44
changed the rotation of the Earth. Not exactly like what
2:09:51
happens when Superman flies around the earth and reverses
2:09:55
time in the movie, but enough to actually slow down the rotation
2:09:59
of our planet. do a rotation that's been speeding up slightly
2:10:03
for decades that
2:10:04
Adam Curry: trend slowed, turned around and is now going in the
2:10:08
other direction. And that's all because of the effect of global
2:10:10
warming. That's
2:10:12
Unknown: Duncan Agnew who runs a study out of San Diego Scripps
2:10:15
Institute for oceanography. His study says we may actually have
2:10:20
to subtract a so called leap second from our atomic clocks,
2:10:24
because of the slowing planet. A move that would be painful for
2:10:28
satellites, computers, not to mention financial and energy
2:10:32
systems that rely on precise timing.
2:10:35
Adam Curry: We've never had an aided leap second before it's
2:10:37
hard enough synchronizing computers when there's a new add
2:10:40
a second, but nobody's prepared to do what's necessary when you
2:10:45
have to have a negative second. Come on, man. I can see this one
2:10:49
spin and out. They can they can ramp this up. They can ramp it
2:10:52
up
2:10:53
John C Dvorak: one thing I saw this, and this Yeah, he doesn't
2:10:56
look right.
2:10:58
Adam Curry: Here he looks like he's on the spectrum. He's got
2:11:01
some issues.
2:11:04
John C Dvorak: For sure. It's okay that we have to add a leap
2:11:07
second, every few every so often. I don't know what the
2:11:10
what the frequency is. But now that it's going to be
2:11:14
subtracting one this is going to cause nothing but Havoc is what
2:11:18
his theory is, is all because of global warming if he stopped at
2:11:21
these problems wouldn't exist. Exactly. And it's like, Oh,
2:11:24
please. This became a news story. These people on the
2:11:29
networks, they, they really are giving us lousy product. This
2:11:34
stinks. I mean, we just no good we keep
2:11:36
Adam Curry: saying for more years. But we can't. There may
2:11:40
be no more news to deconstruct by that time, because no one
2:11:43
will want to hear it. I mean, it's become so stupid. I mean,
2:11:49
we're gonna deconstruct Megyn Kelly, what are we going to do?
2:11:56
John C Dvorak: I have COVID stuff. COVID backs I thought was
2:11:59
funny.
2:12:02
Adam Curry: Okay, COVID Vax is always funny because then I'll
2:12:06
talk about heart failures always funny.
2:12:10
John C Dvorak: It's, it's, this is McCullough, QA on a podcast
2:12:16
at the Brian Shapiro occupied Democrats podcast where this is
2:12:21
an example of some of the worst podcasting and, and types of
2:12:25
questioning that anyone can imagine from any podcaster it's
2:12:30
as though we did the podcast is as thus Hey, Adam, would you
2:12:33
agree with me that Oh, brother, really? It's not I mean, that
2:12:37
style of living the wind rational testimony?
2:12:40
Adam Curry: Yeah, leading the witness. All right. Caller I
2:12:44
don't
2:12:45
John C Dvorak: know why he's on this podcast or what he's got to
2:12:47
do with it. But this guy is one of our you know,
2:12:50
Adam Curry: five caller is the is the man we trust the man.
2:12:53
John C Dvorak: He's the guy. He's the guy you listen to
2:12:55
because he does and he doesn't put up with guff. And so here we
2:12:57
go put one up with guff
2:12:59
Unknown: talk about vaccines with you. Would you agree with
2:13:01
me that the vaccines for COVID have done far more good for
2:13:06
people in this country than the NACA there are so many people
2:13:09
still that say COVID? The vaccines have killed millions of
2:13:11
people that all these professional athletes are dying
2:13:14
of myocarditis when it's just not true. So would you agree
2:13:18
with me that the vaccines have done far more good for people
2:13:21
than bad?
2:13:21
Adam Curry: I have to be I just did an interview the other day
2:13:25
for a podcast, one of the unheard of the union of the
2:13:28
unwanted who by the way, want you? They really want Johnson a
2:13:32
union
2:13:32
John C Dvorak: of the unwanted watch me? Yeah.
2:13:36
Adam Curry: Go figure. And you get to like these long
2:13:40
questions. And like, would you agree with me as I got this?
2:13:44
Yeah, this is very podcast it Well,
2:13:46
John C Dvorak: what happened? It's better wait. It's bad
2:13:49
podcast it and it stems from and I believe it it's it evolves
2:13:54
from people listened to too many Senate hearings? Yeah. Where the
2:13:57
senator says, Would you believe me? And they tried to get does
2:14:01
beyond leading the witness? Is it trying to pre answer the
2:14:04
question, but I have the sense that this guy doesn't know who
2:14:07
Macaulay is because he's not going to get away with any of
2:14:10
this. Well,
2:14:10
Adam Curry: but the logical conclusion of what you just said
2:14:13
there is that all of our elected representatives in Congress are
2:14:18
in essence, bad podcasters. Exactly.
2:14:22
Unknown: Far more good for people than bad. Well, what
2:14:24
evidence do you have for that?
2:14:26
What evidence do you have that that all these people are dying
2:14:29
in the vaccines?
2:14:30
Well, let's just take let's take safety first. Because we always
2:14:34
discuss safety before efficacy. Would you agree with that? Sure.
2:14:38
Sure. Yeah. Right. So it doesn't matter how good a product is. It
2:14:42
has to be safe. Would you agree with that?
2:14:44
I don't think there's any vaccination that's 100%
2:14:47
foolproof safe, you know that okay,
2:14:49
but it would have to have acceptable safety. Would you
2:14:52
agree with that?
2:14:53
It depends on your definition of acceptable safety.
2:14:57
Adam Curry: This guy a doctor, what is what is eat Have you
2:15:03
tried to torture us here? What are you doing with it?
2:15:05
Unknown: We're in a global pandemic, where at one point we
2:15:07
were losing 5000 Americans per day. So obviously, these were
2:15:10
extenuating circumstances. But go ahead.
2:15:12
But what would be your definition of acceptable safety?
2:15:16
Well, I while I'm not a doctor, and you are, I would say, in my
2:15:21
personal opinion, looking back on half the world being
2:15:25
vaccinated, in fact, more than half the world as you know, at
2:15:27
this point, there is no direct evidence that these vaccinations
2:15:32
are people are dropping dead left and right. And as you know,
2:15:36
specifically on right wing media, and right wing talk shows
2:15:39
they claim that all these professional athletes are dying
2:15:42
of myocarditis. Because of the vaccines when they don't even
2:15:45
know if these people were vaccinated. They don't know
2:15:47
their medical history. And it's frustrating for me, doctor,
2:15:50
because I believe the vaccine saved my life. I believe it
2:15:52
saved my parents life. And in so many studies out there, you
2:15:55
know, listen, you could as you know this, you can get COVID If
2:15:59
you're vaccinated, it didn't give you a lesser chance of
2:16:01
getting infected or giving it to somebody else. However, you are
2:16:05
in so many studies that I've seen, and you can tell me if you
2:16:07
disagree, far less likely to get the effects of having to go into
2:16:11
the ICU or possibly dying if you were vaccinated. Am I wrong?
2:16:15
Yeah, you're wrong.
2:16:17
Adam Curry: What is the name of this? podcaster?
2:16:20
John C Dvorak: It's the name is?
2:16:22
Adam Curry: Yeah. Brian Shapiro. Yes, the
2:16:24
John C Dvorak: Brian Shapiro occupied Democrat.
2:16:27
Adam Curry: I'm taking his license away, removing his show.
2:16:32
John C Dvorak: So this is another example. This is a like
2:16:35
the Kennedy stuff earlier example of how to testify how to
2:16:40
respond and how to deal with guys like this. This guy is so
2:16:46
bigoted. And so now mycologist goes into you and stick it to
2:16:50
him.
2:16:52
Adam Curry: You're a doctor, aren't you? Am I correct in
2:16:54
assuming you're a doctor?
2:16:56
John C Dvorak: And so I just thought, yeah, I just thought I
2:17:01
actually had three of these. I thought there was only two but
2:17:04
McCullough is, I don't know why he's on this podcast. I don't
2:17:08
know what the point of it
2:17:09
Adam Curry: is. And we need he needs an agent like, hey, hey,
2:17:12
Pete, don't do
2:17:13
John C Dvorak: podcasts like this because Carlos is irked.
2:17:16
And this guy is like, Tim Poole want to be this this podcast or
2:17:21
is fast talk or talk bla bla bla bla bla, but he's all of these
2:17:26
podcasters come from I don't get it. Bruce Lee, and what are
2:17:31
Adam Curry: you listening to these things? So how does how do
2:17:32
you? How do you acquire this?
2:17:34
John C Dvorak: I acquire these things through sources.
2:17:37
Unknown: And here's the reason why the prospective randomized,
2:17:41
double blind, placebo controlled clinical trials of the vaccines
2:17:45
never showed a reduction in severity. They never showed a
2:17:49
reduction in hospitalization and death. And what's come out over
2:17:54
time, is the virus has mutated to become a much milder virus.
2:17:59
So as the vaccines were rolling out, you know, we were being
2:18:02
confronted with a less mild virus. The other thing, I mean,
2:18:06
a less severe virus more mild. The other thing that happened is
2:18:08
we learned how to treat the illness. So we treated patients
2:18:12
early, and we avoided hospitalization and death. So
2:18:15
the two major things that saved people's lives, were having
2:18:20
natural immunity from the first round of infection. And then
2:18:24
early treatment. What happened with the vaccines? Remember, the
2:18:28
vaccines came in late, you know, so we're worried a year the
2:18:31
pandemic we've been treating people for a year. The vaccines
2:18:34
come in late. And in a recent paper by Norman Fenton from the
2:18:41
UK, he shown that there was tremendous misclassification
2:18:44
bias. So when they declared that there was a a, a epidemic of the
2:18:51
unvaccinated In fact, the hospitals weren't, you know,
2:18:55
they had no they had no idea who was vaccinated or not. They
2:18:58
didn't have connection to the CDC vaccine records. They
2:19:01
weren't going in the ICU and figuring out people on the
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ventilator who were vaccinated who weren't. In countries that
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actually did have the vaccine status like the UK, they found
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far more vaccinated in the hospital on ventilators and
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dying than the unvaccinated and in a paper by Shrestha and
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colleagues from the Cleveland Clinic, the least the lowest
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risk workers that they have in 51,000 workers are the
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unvaccinated and with every single injection one is more and
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more likely to get COVID-19
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Adam Curry: So I presume this tarde caster right away went
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okay, well, I guess I was wrong. As far as what happened?
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John C Dvorak: Not really. I mean, he's upset with himself
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because he's convinced that the VAX saved him and his family and
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no, I don't think anybody ever buys into the the the McCullough
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narrative if they've already assigned. I mean, once in a
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while you see it on On threads, you'll see a bunch of people
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going up and down. Stop, stop.
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Adam Curry: You're on threads.
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John C Dvorak: What? No, I meant threads. Oh, I didn't mean
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threads. I meant on threads you in other words, a bunch of
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thread
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Adam Curry: on a thread. Yes. Yes. I'm sorry. I don't
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John C Dvorak: even know how to get on thread. But I don't know
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why you'd stop me anyway.
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Adam Curry: You read on threads. I'm like, what? You're on
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threads. Threads is a product I thought you were on a
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John C Dvorak: thread. So you read it they're ever shown to
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somebody that goes out? You know, I got too many shots. I
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got like set unit up to seven. All right. I think it's seven.
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Yeah. Oh, he