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April 28th, 2024 • 3h 16m

1655: Illegal Chants

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John C Dvorak: Okay, pitcher tense here. Adam curry
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Adam Curry: Jhansi Dvorak April 28 2024 This Year Award Winning
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Combination media assassination episode 1655. This is no agenda
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foraging for fragments. The first clue and broadcasting live
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from the heartland times is no country here in FEMA Region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where the
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correspondents dinner looks like it's on its last legs. I'm John
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C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. I didn't even I didn't even know it was
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on until 1030 Last night. Why would you? Use I got I clipped
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some stuff from it.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I got one I might clip is if you notice what
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it says. No, I didn't even get any clips. I didn't see is this
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it's the clip is called core dinner. Comic two. Oh,
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Adam Curry: is this is this? Is this the guy who did the Trump
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stuff?
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John C Dvorak: No, it is just the go no, go No. main
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Adam Curry: guy. Good because I headline I didn't clip anything
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from joste
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he you notice it says comic too
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because I was first I start from the back. I clipped a bit then I
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Adam Curry: got thrown out. Is that was that what one
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John C Dvorak: got thrown out? As well as bite bite? By the way
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you have the whole Biden bit? Well, you're not gonna play the
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whole Biden. No, six minutes. No. But you can't go out and do
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a roast if Biden did a kind of a crappy roast on Trump. But Trump
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was in there. That's
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Adam Curry: why I clip the comedians,
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John C Dvorak: violation of all comedy rules.
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Adam Curry: The whole thing was this oh, this is what they call
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the nerd ball. And this is where the mainstream media gets
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together with their Hollywood buddies. And they all go
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together and they laugh about Trump and Fox News. And that's
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basically the whole thing and then Kamala Harris sat next to
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some guy who came right out of Star Trek Deep Space Nine who
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turned out to be a political guy. You see that the black guy
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with the with the Afro and he had like he's
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John C Dvorak: going you're nailing? Like what is basically
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nailing what is
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Adam Curry: happening here. It's it You're right. I think this
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was last legs for this thing. It was the the mainstream media
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last gasp gasp Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it'll be around
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forever, but people are tuning out. They just did just not
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listening anymore.
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John C Dvorak: Well, it was bombing from the get go. It was
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pretty bad. Kelly O'Donnell who's the new achieve muckety
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muck the president of the club
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Adam Curry: who was very excited. He running around,
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which I'm
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John C Dvorak: watching her she's she's playing spot this
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book, she comes up high on the list only because of her Wiki
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pages. That girl who's been a correspondent for NBC for 2030
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years. She's the head of the Correspondents Association,
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which is not as minor operation. And her wiki page is so weird.
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It's missing everything. It's like, why are they telling us
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this? Why is it telling us that? And she's she has all the
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earmarks of one of these people.
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Adam Curry: Well, that's left. I mean, the guests are all spooks
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I mean, literally former CIA, FBI. General this Colonel that
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and I mean, why not? Might as well have them talking to each
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other. That's what it's all about. It's all about military
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industrial depth. Sorry, the defense industrial base, and oil
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and gas control. That's all that's going on right now. So
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why not? We might as well do that and cover it up as you know
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make it look like news.
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John C Dvorak: To nothing was funny, this guy Joseph Jost, or
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however you pronounce his name Joe's toast. He was bombing
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Adam Curry: also came out. There was well, there was a lot of,
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oh, we're just stupid, man. Our wives are better. Yeah, that's
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John C Dvorak: a good point. He's
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Adam Curry: married Scarlett Johansson, and was like, Well,
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clearly, you know, the true star is here. And he was even playing
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like, what what does that word I'm looking for? Where are you?
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It's like feminization almost, and then dug
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John C Dvorak: deep to where you're looking for thetic
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Adam Curry: Doug Doug's second fiddle you're just Oh, the
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commoner as the got the winter pants. Jill's wearing the pants.
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Everyone. All women are better than men in DC. That's what it
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was. Yes. Pathetic. Alright, let's play joste Fox News.
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John C Dvorak: This is man. This is I believe, and it got done.
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Nothing Not much of a response but nothing did it did this
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whole audience was dead as a doornail. And there's when they
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shot pictures of the audience in the up here little they had a
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mic a little bit so you can hear some laugh but you saw nobody
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laughing No,
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Adam Curry: it's because most of it wasn't except the coke joke.
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That was kind of funny. It
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John C Dvorak: was kind of funny, but it didn't go over
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well, which bombed it bomb too. And it had either a lot to do
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with the fact that the Democrats don't have any writers that can
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write comedy or stand up style comedy in this era. But this is
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probably the funniest of the bits. I thought because it
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brought in something you always like to bitch about. And I
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thought it was at least moderately okay, but this was
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the tone of the whole event. Fox
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Unknown: News is here tonight. It's the end of an era. Rupert
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Murdoch stepped down at Fox News, which is strange. I didn't
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think there was a step down from foxes. Trump media is here.
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Trump media. Not at a table just screaming loudly in the corner
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to no one. Wordle is here tonight. Sorry, sorry. I meant
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the New York Times. I forgot they do stuff in addition to
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puzzles. To say it's not a great sign when the only thing keeping
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a print media company alive are games people play on their
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phones. To chilling for you guys.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the only smart that even it was just
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embarrassing for everybody. It's gotten so bad, John, the people
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don't even want to listen to our show anymore. Because we play
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mainstream media clips. Yeah, I'm telling you. I'm telling
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you. Oh, it's like a cancer. Yeah. I wonder what we're doing
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here. I saw the donations come in. I'm like, okay, short show.
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Short show everybody short, short show today. Short
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John C Dvorak: sheath short show. Yeah, that's right. Short
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show night when it's I want to also throw out my condolences to
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now Yes. cast her and her husband are now has her brother
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Brian. Brian hoganson. He was the guy who had spinal cord
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cancer, some sort of weird cancer. And he unfortunately,
7:14
passed away just before we received the ABC just before he
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received as knighting ring as sad day for the show. Yeah. And
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we're stuck. We're Brian was a great guy. He's in Brownwood,
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Texas. You may have met him. I think I probably did. Yeah.
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Yeah. So there's that. That's right. I didn't write my
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spirits.
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Adam Curry: Now. He's not donating any more, that's for
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sure. Come on, everybody. Suppose to lighten the mood a
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little bit. But also, I don't know about your email. But we
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must be right over some kind of target. Because I'm getting it.
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I'm getting flack from both sides. On one side, no anti
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semitism, they're there. They're beating Jews up. They're doing
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this to the Jews and ever. I mean, this one lady was so mad
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at me. And then on the other side, clearly, clearly, they are
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threatening you and your family. That's why you're lying. You're
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wirelessly doing all this. You're purposely saying that
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America controls Israel and settled the other way around. We
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all know, we all know the silence control the world. And
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so I'm like, okay,
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John C Dvorak: I get it. I get a couple of you guys, that weren't
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your user when they're brought up? The concept that this Jewish
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the intimidation of Jewish students on campus is overblown
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by mostly the right wing media. And so you would get that flack
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because I had didn't dive into that. Well, I've
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Adam Curry: got more common. Well, let me let me just start
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with something that was amazing to me this morning. We have a
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long memory for certain things. You haven't you have them you
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skip over a period and you have a way longer memory. But this
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one goes back to the days when we I mean, people were still
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using blackberries. Okay, the smartphones had been out for a
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couple of years. This is still from the BlackBerry age, which
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means that there was not as there was social media and
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Twitter was kind of there. You know, we had YouTube but it was
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very, very early days. And now it's like history repeating
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itself. The flotilla is
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Unknown: back, the odd thinness will lead the flotilla of three
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ships from Istanbul carrying more than 5000 metric tons of
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aid to Gaza, including medical supplies and food. The flotilla
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is organized by a coalition of international and Turkish
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humanitarian groups. They say it's not just about delivering
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aid, but challenging what they describe as Israel's blockade on
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Gaza. They want Israel to allow a to enter from Egypt. So
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we hope to break the illegal naval blockade of Gaza that
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Israel has had on it for decades. We all hope to
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certainly bring food medicines that are needed by the people of
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Gaza. It's a small drop in the bucket. We're calling for the
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the border of Rafah to be opened where there's tons of food
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that's waiting. It's been
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14 years since 14 organizers last tried to break the
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blockade. Last time Israeli commandos intercepted the Mavi
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Marmara, the vessel leading the flotilla raid that the deaths of
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10 people, activists say they are aware of the dangers they
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face, but say the risk is worth taking considering the scale of
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the humanitarian crisis so it right
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Adam Curry: there it 14 years ago, this exact same thing
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happened they had the Freedom Flotilla now of course, we
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didn't have social media the way we have it now today. So it was
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almost like a non of it was it was like, oh, it's shocking
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because the IDF they dropped people onto the onto the main
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ship, and there were some gunfire and people got killed.
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Let's go back to Episode 205 of the no agenda show. And listen
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to we discuss them.
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John C Dvorak: Nice. So I got a couple more clips for you unless
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you have some funny Well, no, I
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Adam Curry: will I don't want to get to the end of the show and
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not having at least discussed the flotilla incident. Oh,
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right.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to talk about that. So let's do it
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right now. Yes. So let's get it out of the way. So
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Adam Curry: here's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that Turkey
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is getting a little bit too cozy with Iran mainly. And so this
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seems to be like a pre emptive type type of strike. I was
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listening to the BBC, the Turkish Turkish Turkish ship,
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from people on board that I heard on the BBC, admit that
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they set sail to break the blockade to be provocative. So,
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you know, it's like, they set out to be provocative. And they
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got, I guess, I guess they got what they what they were hoping
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to get. Exactly. So we're witnessing it the same thing all
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over again, if you listen to episode 205, it was all about
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pipelines all about oil is all about gas offshore. It's the
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same thing but no, no, no, oh, no. This anti semitism, we've
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got to stop the anti semitism everywhere. It's horrible. And
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by the way, when someone says, I hate Zionist or I hate Jews,
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fine, call it anti semitism. It's also free speech. And
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that's ending. They've played both sides on this, played them
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because now we got the legislation coming. First,
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here's Robert Cohen, Professor of History at NYU,
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Unknown: you have the donors, threatening them, Congress
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threatening them. So there's a lot of pressure, they could lose
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their job as the president of Harvard loses their job, because
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of what's seen as in inadequately repressive, you
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know, policing of these demonstrations, then anybody
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could lose their job. And what's dangerous about that is that
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who's going to protect free speech and academic freedom? If
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the college and university presidents are under this
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pressure, and are afraid, given Congress's hostility to these
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demonstrations, which are equated with terrorism and Hamas
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sympathizers and anti semitism, that they want these
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demonstrations to be suppressed? I didn't see any anti semitic
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incidents. And I'm Jewish, I was on the I was there for a while,
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and it was kind of welcome. So So
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Adam Curry: I only have two more clips. I just want to get this
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out of my system. So now they're coming up with anti semitism
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legislation, which is an inherent restriction on free
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speech. And while everyone's fighting, they're going to start
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passing stuff that's not Hello, Australia. Hello, eu. Hello, UK,
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America is close behind. Just
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Unknown: next week on the house calendars just added that the
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house is going to be taking up the anti semitism awareness act.
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This is a bill that was actually written in a bipartisan way all
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the way back in October, after the October 7 attacks in Israel.
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But since then, it has been sort of dormant, it could get new
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life now and what this bill would do, if it became law is
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redefine what it means to be incorporated into anti semitic
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acts of harassment. The definition would change to
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include denying Jewish self determination to their ancestral
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homeland of Israel, and also holding Jews collectively
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responsible for actions of the government of Israel. So in real
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terms, what that means is certain protest chants that
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we're hearing across university campuses, around the country and
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at other pro Palestinian rallies, could all of the sudden
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now become punishable under federal anti discrimination law.
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So potentially this could have an impact right away. Over in
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the Senate. There's also a similar version to this. We're
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not sure exactly what the Senate is going to do with that if it
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will move along with this house bill. But this all comes in the
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wake of speaker Mike Johnson going to Columbia University in
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that dramatic fashion, addressing some of the
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protesters directly an on camera, also giving that
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address. And he said also that universities may end up losing
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federal funding if they can't control some of the protests
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that we've been seeing. So
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Adam Curry: here it comes. Just as I said,
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John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop. So I think it may be one of the
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reasons donations is down because I don't give or in you
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and I both don't do this enough, which is that's Clip of the Day.
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Oh, wow.
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Adam Curry: Thank you. Oh, wow, donation shot up because
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John C Dvorak: Oh, wow, groovy. Now
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Adam Curry: MSNBC went into a little bit of detail. Key words
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coming up for this
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Unknown: bill would do a lot. And it really is a monumental
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piece of legislation from my bipartisan group in the house in
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the Senate, led by Jackie rose, and she is one of the first
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Jewish women to serve in the Senate. So certainly, this has
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symbolic meaning for her. But this bill would create a point
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person essentially a strategic adviser to the president of any
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administration. This doesn't just tap out with President
16:39
Biden it's supposed to be a role in which this person advises
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inner agencies has coordination not only with the federal
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government, but also the Department of Education, for
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example, when it comes to anti semitism in higher education,
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also coming out with a strategy and implementing that plan
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online as well. Quick nine in 10, Jewish Americans feel like
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anti semitism is the highest it's ever been. That's according
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to a new Pew Research poll from last week. This is something
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that of course has bubbled over after the October 7 Tomas attack
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on Israel and Israel's invasion of Gaza since that is claimed
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many lives. Okay,
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Adam Curry: so there it is. Been
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John C Dvorak: up by the way, did you get spun up by the
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mainstream media now it's the worst thing is worse than ever.
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Yeah,
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Adam Curry: yeah. Here's the point. online as well. I don't
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know if people have been watching what's happening in the
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UK. But if you go on Facebook, or Instagram or x, then you say,
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Oh, you don't Tran. x x. You say, Hey, you dump training, you
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get arrested, you get arrested is true. This is coming here is
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John C Dvorak: in England, and Canada is going to be this way.
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This is if it isn't already in Australia, for sure. So while
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Adam Curry: everybody's all upset about who's to blame, and
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yeah, meanwhile, Mike Johnson is, you know, he's been
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captured.
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John C Dvorak: And we're all getting an appointment now
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fighting
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Adam Curry: and they're dividing, and they're going to
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actually shut down your speech. And no one is standing up and
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going out. Hold on a second. No, I have the right to say whatever
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I want about an Arab, a Jew, a Muslim, a Christian, whatever.
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That's the right that we have inherent in this country, in our
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country. And we're letting it just oh, we're all arguing about
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oh, they're Zionist. A horrible on the Palestinians. It's all
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bad. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hey, listen. Look, Tina. Tina can
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take her Social Security in two months. I'm only two years away.
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I'm good. I'm good. I want to sit back and do something melts.
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But it's it's all going to shut down if we don't pay attention.
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John C Dvorak: You go that was good. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: thanks. Let me see. Steady Oh, it's super pathetic.
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Meanwhile, and this is being used everywhere. And
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John C Dvorak: he's you know, this is also what when you saw
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that correspondents dinner, which I think you rightly point
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out it was it's been taken over by spooks totally and it's so
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it's not funny because of all the things I mean we have no
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qualms with the intelligence agencies we try to figure out
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what they're up to. But they're largely humorless
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Adam Curry: and not good at humorous true they're not
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John C Dvorak: funny guys. And so you get see this
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correspondents dinner and there's nothing funny going on
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and material that was written for Biden was I would call it
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the only way to put it chicken shit. It was it was weak. It was
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like it was but it was also chicken shit. He's These mice
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will be doing the fart farting in court jokes. And and I was
20:08
thinking about that I was going through some some stuff and I
20:10
realized one of the things that's disappeared in a kind of
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disappeared in the, I guess, during the Clinton
20:17
administration when when political correctness really
20:21
started taking hold, which was in the late 70s. In fact,
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College Humor magazines have all disappeared. What used to be the
20:29
joke editor for the California Pelican and the California
20:35
Pelican went out of business in 1980, something and all the
20:39
College Humor magazines went out of business. And one of the
20:41
things you did as the joke editors, you looked at all the
20:44
other college magazines and stole their jokes and put it in
20:49
yours. And it was just basically stealing material. I still
20:54
remember a number of jokes I stole. And but there was none
20:59
left. I mean, they Harvard Lampoon I think, was the last
21:02
one, and it became kind of semi. Now
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Adam Curry: we have, we have not the Babylon B. That's all
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John C Dvorak: that's left. Yet even the onion can't perform,
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though.
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Adam Curry: Now, but listen to this 2010 We had this exact same
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argument, even though it was really about defense industrial
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base resources, who controls energy in the world? That was
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2010. What happened in 2011? I just looked it up. bullying
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laws. Remember the bullying laws? This is what started off.
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Bullying? Well, we had to have a task force
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Unknown: because Minnesota has one of the weakest bullying laws
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in the nation, Governor Dayton, the task force to recommend
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changes witnesses,
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children in Minnesota are being subjected to a form of
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harassment, a form of emotional torture, emotional torture, and
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people in authority are not responding and not preventing
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that acting upon it. It's just something that is so in
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Minnesota and that it's it's hard to fathom. The Governor's
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executive order forms a taskforce of no more than 15
22:11
people, including the commissioners of education and
22:13
public safety. It's to make its recommendations to the governor
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no later than next August 1. But one of the challenges is
22:20
engaging kids themselves at the bullying hotline and website at
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the PACER Center in Bloomington counselors say one of the number
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one reasons kids don't report bullying is because they're
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afraid there'll be next.
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Adam Curry: If you look at our clip list, there's a 50 by 50.
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That was from 2011. This this is how they do it. It's a repeat of
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history a repeat. And as Churchill said, Those who do not
22:48
learn from history are doomed and bound to repeat it. And here
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we go. Here we go. So but now it's going to be a little more
22:55
interesting, particularly since the President can determine any
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app that is yours for an interest can be shut down.
23:04
Illegal or non legal traffic can be shut down by your ISP thanks
23:10
to the FCC vote. Everything is going to be monitored as they do
23:14
effect. I
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John C Dvorak: think I do I have a clip on the same
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Adam Curry: thing we talked about on the last show. I don't
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know. We're voting. Voting on it last on Thresh
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John C Dvorak: neutrality is back clip. Oh yeah, here we go.
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Unknown: The FCC is promising set a safe, fast and reliable
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internet for all after it voted to restore its regulatory power
23:37
over internet service providers and peers.
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This week, the FCC passed a measure to reclassify broadband
23:45
as a public utility like water or electricity, deeming it an
23:49
essential service. This effectively restores the Obama
23:52
era Net Neutrality rules that were rolled back under President
23:55
Trump. Net Neutrality means broadband companies like Comcast
23:59
and 18 t can't deliberately slow down internet speeds for
24:02
customers. There's no pay to play for faster speeds and no
24:06
favoritism for certain content, which could stifle competition
24:10
from services such as Netflix or Spotify. telecom companies are
24:14
expected to sue the FCC. They argue the rules are government
24:17
overreach and try to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Oh
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Adam Curry: yeah, don't worry. They're going to solve problems.
24:23
They're going to block Tor exit nodes. So welcome. I want to
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John C Dvorak: I like to, I like to use the word Safe, safe and
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fast. way not safe and effective as safe and fast. Don't
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Adam Curry: want safe this safe.
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John C Dvorak: What does that mean? It means
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Adam Curry: no pesky podcasts. But actually that's the that
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will be the last to go. Because you know we we've decentralized
24:45
that enough, but you know rumble, YouTube, everything will
24:50
be safe like AOL. AOL was safe, safe. It was safe and effective.
24:57
TRT Turkish radio, television anywhere already had a
25:02
reasonable overview of what are effectively Black Lives Matter
25:06
protests part two, which are now worldwide of course being used
25:11
in for different means and they don't have to go after free
25:16
speech in the UK anymore. They've already they already
25:20
tamp that down with the digital services built act. So you're
25:24
already screwed if you want to say speak your mind in the UK.
25:29
Unknown: Here's an overview of the push for Palestinian
25:31
freedom. Students solidarity has grown at George Washington
25:37
University. Despite police pinning protesters in students
25:42
Selena how Shahabi camped out since Tuesday has been part of
25:46
negotiations with the university
25:48
she W's response administration's responses. I
25:51
Adam Curry: love these kids who've been screened who've been
25:53
chanting so much that their voices are shot all over
25:57
Unknown: the place. Oh, tough negotiations with the
26:00
university.
26:01
She W's response administration's responses, they
26:04
kind of just want us out. It's clear by their deployment of
26:07
police trying to barricade us and they've already suspended
26:10
seven students and said they don't want to listen to
26:12
students. They just want to kick us out. shut us down. And that
26:16
is disgusting.
26:17
Professors like Barbara Wien have been joining students every
26:20
day to show their support to students or
26:23
the teachers.
26:26
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This this is here it is. Get
26:30
your pronouns ready, lady, because the students are the
26:33
teacher
26:34
Unknown: students or the teachers, and they are the
26:37
conscience of the country. They're the moral compass.
26:40
They're the moral barometer. They're idiots
26:42
led protests. Quickly in the last week, with encampments
26:46
springing up dozens of universities, their demands
26:49
follow a common theme for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. And
26:54
for institutions like this one, to cut ties with firms
26:58
supporting Israel, the protesters say are complicit in
27:02
the bloodshed. However, hundreds of arrests have turned some
27:06
colleges into battlegrounds between police and protesters.
27:09
This is
27:10
insane. I just saw police use
27:12
unnecessary violence for peaceful protesters, I saw
27:15
police knock students to the
27:16
Adam Curry: ground. For me personally, I'm planning to stay
27:19
here until our demands are met. Or they're going to have to drag
27:22
me out of here. That guy who just heard there, he's 30 years
27:25
old. These people are not all college students. This is
27:28
completely fabricated. Again, you've got all the green tents,
27:33
you've even got lawyers walking around with green baseball caps,
27:37
the green stuff, so green, there was
27:40
John C Dvorak: a discussion I didn't I I thought about
27:44
clipping it, but I didn't it was on PBS. And it was a couple of
27:48
professors going back and forth about how people are handling
27:51
this. And it was noted that the old pros like University of
27:55
California, Berkeley, okay, pitcher tents here, just don't
28:00
get in the way. You can stay here as long as you want. And
28:04
they didn't bring any cops in or if this was just a bunch of
28:07
idiots sleeping in tents,
28:09
Adam Curry: privileged, privileged idiots
28:11
John C Dvorak: privilege is a privilege, I stepped into the
28:15
tank. And so meanwhile, in Colombia and other places where
28:20
they bring in the police, it it goes bad, it goes sour, because
28:25
but you know, at Berkeley, they've understood this, because
28:27
they have experienced it goes back on this, you don't do that.
28:31
And when they have when it goes south like it does in Colombia,
28:35
all these outsiders come in, because that's where the action
28:38
is. And it just makes it worse. But these are the inexperienced,
28:42
and they attributed it to middle management and upper management
28:45
at schools that have no experience with student protests
28:49
whatsoever. And they just they will, they're bound to screw it
28:53
up and make a mess. Tell us what's going on.
28:56
Adam Curry: So here's the so it's Black Lives Matter the same
28:58
people. And this is the BDS crowd. So boycott, divest, and
29:05
sanction. They all want the oil you know, like universities of
29:10
course I mean that actually educating anybody there
29:12
investing in in companies apparently. So go you've got to
29:16
divest from all your investments. If it wasn't in in
29:19
oil companies now it can't be in a guest defense companies. I
29:23
don't know what what other industry does Israel have? And
29:26
then oh, you know what, let's bring out Angela Davis,
29:29
Unknown: renowned civil rights activist professor and author
29:31
Angela Davis surprising those sticking out on Tivoli claw.
29:35
They say you shouldn't meet your heroes but like she lived up to
29:38
it. Davis emphasizing
29:39
what this means for history. You
29:41
will be the historical actors
29:44
who made it possible. A breakthrough in the struggle
29:49
against Zionism
29:51
despite the wet weather protesters to occupy the lawn
29:55
and plan to sleep here overnight.
29:57
I'm not a politician. I don't have all the answers. But I do
30:00
have the passion in the world to try and get our politicians to
30:02
do their job demanding
30:03
full transparency from CU.
30:07
John C Dvorak: But where was this word? Angela Davis show up.
30:10
She's from the Bay Area as far as I know,
30:12
Adam Curry: Denver. Denver's our she went to
30:17
John C Dvorak: and let's remember it Angela Davis is a
30:20
out and out. Marks. Communist. Yes, of course.
30:26
Adam Curry: But this is what she says and it's in you know, and
30:29
then the cops are brought in and oh, you know, the cops all cops
30:33
are bastards. They're horrible. It's where the Briggs pigs were
30:37
the bricks bring out the bricks, we're gonna throw some bricks up
30:40
Unknown: demanding full transparency from CU about the
30:42
school's financial investments. Joining hundreds of other campus
30:46
protests across the country demanding change
30:49
protests is the peaceful defiance of unjust rules. And if
30:53
we pay a real to send him a script,
30:56
Adam Curry: I love this lady, and we're being real and then
30:59
she puts her phone down. This isn't in my script. Because
31:02
she's an actress and if we can reel the scene in my script, and
31:06
lucky when Bernie damn lucky Oh, they're lucky when I burned up.
31:13
Now in London, little different. The organizers there are all
31:17
members of the Labour Party and they want to have elections. I
31:22
have
31:22
Unknown: not seen anything like this is absolutely incredible on
31:24
several fronts in coming after seven months, and we haven't
31:27
seen the numbers dwindle. And this has been spreading outside
31:31
London.
31:33
Today marks the 13th national demonstration for Palestine. But
31:37
10s of 1000s of back on the streets of the capital from all
31:41
over the country. All
31:42
Adam Curry: these people that guy heard in the beginning and
31:44
the next speaker, all Labour Party members and they've got
31:47
professional signs world Workers Party Socialist Party, it's this
31:51
is a political move they're making here.
31:54
Unknown: But the political pressure is mounting from all
31:56
sides. This movement is facing increasing propaganda against
32:01
it. The British Zionist lobby say marches like this one are
32:05
anti semitic. However, the British Jewish community leaders
32:09
hand individuals on these very marches say, this isn't about
32:13
religion. It's about humanity.
32:15
We're opening the Jewish we're on the march. We're calling for
32:18
ceasefire. Now, Jews are not under threat. People who defend
32:23
genocide will be criticized for what's going on in Gaza is a
32:28
stain on humanity. And we all must raise our voices to see it
32:32
ended as soon as possible.
32:33
As the death toll soars to more than 34,000. In Gaza. It's
32:38
business as usual for ourselves from the UK to Israel. The UK
32:42
government is now facing a legal challenge, as many points to
32:46
possible breaches of international law.
32:49
Adam Curry: You go arms sales, of course, and then more
32:52
political strife, more protests. I don't know. It's still in the
32:56
Red Book. I'm on the fence again, a sea
32:59
Unknown: of white and blue flags on the streets of Tel Aviv.
33:03
1000s of Israelis, demanding that the government bring their
33:06
compatriots home. After almost seven months of war, and with no
33:11
hostage deal in sight. Many are turning their fury on Prime
33:15
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his right wing government.
33:19
Families
33:19
of the hostages were gathered to call upon the Cabinet members
33:23
get out of government if you can't secure the hostage deal.
33:27
Now.
33:28
This is job number one of the Government of Israel job number
33:33
one and they failed dramatically. They should go all
33:38
the government's all the 64 members. This
33:41
protest was further inflamed by a video released by Hamas that
33:45
appeared to show two hostages taken during the October 7
33:49
terror attack. Netanyahu and his government insists that securing
33:53
the release of all hostages is their top priority. But many are
33:57
losing faith that Israeli leaders are really doing all
34:01
that they can I want for elections
34:04
to be held. Not in a year or two. But
34:07
right now as soon as possible. I want all the hostages back
34:11
because I can see the government does not want them back. They
34:15
want to make this war go as long as possible.
34:19
We've been terrorized by our government by our leadership.
34:23
For more than six months. They haven't been doing whatever they
34:26
needed to do.
34:27
Hamas considers Israel's latest proposal for a ceasefire in
34:31
Gaza. negotiators have hinted that a hostage deal might be
34:35
close. So
34:36
Adam Curry: that's Deutsche valor. So our intelligence
34:38
services so you're like oh, let's put BB under a little bit
34:41
of pressure there. BB BB it better and better get something
34:45
going on.
34:46
John C Dvorak: I guess what's that? I say when I'm gonna move
34:49
along. And so things are by the way, I should mention that you
34:51
brought in the UK that my one of our one of the friends of the
34:58
show. Do
34:59
Adam Curry: we have Have friends left if we guess
35:04
John C Dvorak: he wants to make me let it be known that the
35:07
Labour is going to totally kick ass in the next elections so I
35:11
believe it take over the country and the next prime minister for
35:16
people who want to kind of keep both are placing bets for you
35:19
betters out there this Kier Starmer creep, which is
35:25
basically what it is. It will be the next prime minister. What's
35:30
key here key k e ir Starmer sta RT m er, so
35:36
Adam Curry: they're going full on?
35:38
John C Dvorak: He's a socialist communist, basically. Yeah.
35:41
Excellent.
35:42
Adam Curry: And they won't be able to say anything, you know,
35:44
because you can't predict now so that you and I are staunchly
35:49
anti war, anti death. We don't like any of that. And we don't
35:53
like this horrible 34,000 people dead. It's so unbelievable to
35:59
me, that we don't talk about the hundreds of 1000s that are dead
36:03
in Ukraine, our closest ally, who we just sent.
36:06
John C Dvorak: No, I'm joking, even bring up Africa. No,
36:09
Adam Curry: no, no, that then people will run away. And then
36:12
and this is the latest barely gets any news. But I love the
36:16
terms is very short clip. And I love what's happening as
36:19
Unknown: Russia steps up its attack so your client says it
36:21
will suspend consular services for military aged men abroad.
36:25
Authorities now want to ensure that men aged between 18 and 60
36:29
living abroad return home. Many Ukrainians say they are being
36:33
unfairly targeted. Military
36:36
Adam Curry: aged men now is between 18 and 66. To
36:41
John C Dvorak: imagine that maybe we can put you in the
36:44
crosshairs, right?
36:45
Adam Curry: They're like, hey, we can use you for we can use
36:48
you as cannon fodder for a couple of months. Yeah, and
36:51
these guys
36:51
John C Dvorak: are last probably for a while. No, no, no, no,
36:55
Adam Curry: no. It's unknown. Oh, who cares? They're
37:00
Ukrainians. Not the same thing. They're not brown.
37:03
John C Dvorak: So before we leave the Middle East, I do have
37:07
this. I had this wild clip, which is the My rub alized clip.
37:11
This is just one of these things that I picked. I pulled down
37:15
from PBS NewsHour, that to me, it was just like a head shaker
37:19
go. Okay. You know, for one thing, they make a big thing
37:23
about the Israelis going to roughen No, no, no, don't do
37:30
that. They already did it. And here's the clip.
37:32
Unknown: Egypt has sent a high level delegation to Israel
37:36
tonight, hoping to revive talks for a hostage deal and ceasefire
37:40
with Hamas. But Cairo also warned against an Israeli
37:43
assault on the southern Gaza City of Rafah along the border
37:47
with Egypt. Much of Gaza has already been reduced to a
37:50
wasteland with UN officials estimating 37 million tons of
37:54
debris to be removed. They said today that the cleanup operation
37:58
will be a mammoth job
38:00
with 100 trucks. We're talking about 14 years of work with 100
38:05
trucks. So that's based on that figure 14 years to remove with
38:10
approximately 750,000 workdays, person workdays to remove the
38:16
debris. Wow.
38:19
John C Dvorak: Wow. Wow, that's Rob alized. Verbalize right in
38:24
saying Don't go in there for what you just stubbed your toe?
38:27
I mean, there's no nothing there.
38:30
Adam Curry: Unbeliev but you know, You're heartless You're
38:32
heartless
38:33
John C Dvorak: 14 years of clean up.
38:36
Adam Curry: You're heartless to vorak. Anyway, right on cue,
38:40
right on cue, we pass we pass the bill the money's in and
38:45
Unknown: as you mentioned, Ukraine is also asking for these
38:47
patriots. Batteries. And your European allies seem to have
38:52
those batteries but securing them won't be as easy as it
38:55
seems. Yes,
38:57
Ukraine says that their allies in Europe have 100 of these
39:01
Patriot systems which are extremely effective and they're
39:05
saying if we can get seven systems you know that you have
39:09
of out of 100 that you have a dear allies? Well, this would be
39:14
enough to block you know, the bulk of Russian attacks that's
39:19
what the Ukrainians are saying but it's not easy because
39:21
European countries you know if the giveaway their defense
39:24
systems well you know, they're losing some deterrence a
39:27
countries like Greece and Spain they've been asked to give away
39:31
some of their missiles that the missiles the defense system,
39:35
some interceptors and well, they've been saying, Well, you
39:39
know, we don't really want to give them away, even though
39:42
we're allies with Ukraine and the US is saying that they're
39:47
gonna send a faster gonna rush in some patriots, but not the
39:51
systems themselves. Only the missiles that intercept you
39:54
know, the missiles coming in from Russia.
39:56
Adam Curry: This woman was so out of breath. By the end of
39:58
this report. She was just Aside herself
40:01
John C Dvorak: is it is what it was this fence, France 24,
40:04
France 24 They have a couple of these breathless reporters that
40:09
there's one way they are all the time. Always like this. She's
40:13
just like she just ran up a flight of steps and she's trying
40:16
to catch your breath. So I have a terrible reporter.
40:18
Adam Curry: I have boots on the ground report and then I want to
40:22
show you how this works in practice. Because you know, we
40:25
pass $96 billion worth and you know, Ukraine aid Israel aid.
40:32
And we all know that we read the bill, it's a procurement law
40:35
John C Dvorak: reading bills, it doesn't help the donations.
40:39
Adam Curry: Oh, you're gonna blame you're gonna blame that on
40:41
the donation? Do
40:42
John C Dvorak: I have to blame somebody? Wow,
40:43
Adam Curry: how about your newsletter was no good.
40:46
John C Dvorak: Oh, there Yes. He can't see can't take it.
40:50
Adam Curry: People are saying read do read legislation the
40:53
more I do it and then run away. You're right. That's the end of
40:56
it. So boots on the ground. I work in the belly
40:59
John C Dvorak: way. Hold on a second. You see, you stopped me
41:02
in my tracks. People have said to you
41:05
Adam Curry: continuous? More likely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
41:08
yeah. You
41:09
John C Dvorak: have nutty listeners. Do we have here out
41:12
there there are donating anyway. Yeah. They should have coughed
41:16
up some big bucks
41:18
Adam Curry: for that draft. Yeah, no, no, not not even not
41:21
even an attaboy
41:21
John C Dvorak: another they should have done double because
41:23
you marked it up and posted and not
41:25
Adam Curry: even an Attaboy. Nothing. Crickets. I'm never
41:29
doing it again. So it was 270 pages. All right. Now listen to
41:34
this. I work in the belly of the beast at an Air Force base where
41:39
a couple of F 35 squadrons are based and wasn't in a fairly
41:42
high level meeting this week where a couple interesting
41:45
details were mentioned. The first is that now Finland is a
41:49
member of NATO, they will be purchasing F 30. Fives ASAP.
41:54
Yeah, exactly. Good for our GDP. Each of these is in the
41:58
neighborhood of $90 million, just to manufacture. And that
42:01
goes without mentioning whatever cost increase will happen for a
42:04
foreign military sale. This doesn't even begin to get into
42:08
what it will cost Finland to maintain these jets. You see,
42:11
Lockheed Martin is a real pain to work with on this because the
42:14
government let them keep all of the data rights. So they
42:18
Lockheed Martin gets to decide how where and who performs the
42:21
maintenance work. Of course, since they own the data rights,
42:24
they will take a cut everywhere they can because they have to be
42:27
involved in everything. If you asked me, Lockheed Martin is
42:30
probably the one that convinced Finland to join NATO. He was
42:33
going people it's all about like it. Second, the Air Force is
42:37
being told that money for large projects will be scarce with the
42:41
department within the Department of Defense, because the Navy
42:45
needs at all to move naval bases due to the rise of sea level. My
42:52
best guess is that the leaders in the Navy know they aren't
42:55
about to get flooded. But they see an opportunity to take
42:59
advantage of a bunch of idiots coming their way. It's
43:03
John C Dvorak: the Navy they flow Who cares whether they're
43:06
flooded? They got boats are
43:09
Adam Curry: our boots on the ground suggests maybe they
43:11
should build a base on Jon's mudflats since they seem to be
43:13
immune from the sea level rise.
43:16
John C Dvorak: Looking out there right now, by the way. Yep,
43:18
nothing has changed. As an aside this at 90. As an
43:22
Adam Curry: aside, this conversation came up because we
43:24
are perpetually out of money for large projects. It's wild to see
43:29
$1 trillion worth of funding go to the Department of Defense.
43:33
But basically none of it makes it down the change chain due to
43:37
so much fraud. And third, he says You are absolutely correct
43:42
about ramping up for China. We are sent briefings about the
43:45
threat from China regularly and they are getting more frequent.
43:49
The latest one was all about how projecting out to 2025. China
43:53
will have more planes, more ships and missiles than all of
43:57
the US, Australia, Japan and South Korea put together the
44:00
message was pretty clear. We have to build more stuff and we
44:04
can't let them steal our designs. I'll also mention that
44:07
I have never seen a briefing about the threat from Russia,
44:10
ISIS, North Korea or anyone else. It's all China all the
44:14
time. And so now we get to oh, you know what we have we got
44:19
another 100 billion dollars. Well, all right. Then here.
44:24
Remember we had that 7.8 billion earmarked for for Ukraine for
44:28
actual money going to Ukraine, which is now partially being
44:32
released. This was not a big news item. And it's being
44:35
released so they can buy our stuff.
44:37
Unknown: Let's bring in our Louis Martinez covers the
44:40
Pentagon for us also MC Mulroy, our security and defense
44:44
analyst.
44:45
Let's start with you, Louis and just talk about this aid
44:48
package. Clearly this is a part of that massive foreign aid
44:51
package that we announced or President Biden announced just
44:57
days ago. Now getting in to the nitty gritty of exactly what
45:01
this means for Ukraine and Israel.
45:05
No, you're right here. It's been a really busy week with regards
45:07
to Ukraine in the funding levels, the 95 billion of which
45:10
60 billion of it was intended for Ukraine. And immediately
45:14
after that, we saw the billion dollars in immediate aid. These
45:17
are weapons in the US inventory that are being provided
45:19
immediately to
45:20
Adam Curry: me. So there's 1 billion went immediately for
45:23
Ukraine to spend on buying stuff from our contractors, okay,
45:26
that's 1 million
45:28
Unknown: to Ukraine. There's another portion of that money,
45:30
which goes towards future weapons buys. That's where the
45:34
$6 billion, though,
45:36
Adam Curry: the Pentagon just announced six additional $6
45:39
billion $7 billion total. So about 800 million left that
45:44
Unknown: with the secretary Austin announced just came in.
45:46
This is $6 million that the United States will provide so
45:48
that Ukraine can purchase additional new weapons, and of
45:52
course work from home. The focus here is on air defense. You
45:55
heard him talking specifically about more artillery ammunition
45:58
you heard and specifically talking about more missiles for
46:00
those Patriot systems. You also heard defense secretary Austin
46:03
talking about how the United States and other countries are
46:06
going to pinch seems like try to provide more Patriot systems
46:11
those launchers that Ukraine is so desperately asking for, as
46:15
Russia keeps launching more attacks on Ukraine cities, the
46:18
question is when will they arrive given that they're in
46:21
such dire need?
46:22
Adam Curry: So three days ago, attack Holmes attack comes
46:25
attack comes attack comes, which the President of the United
46:28
States does not have to give? We read that in the legislation
46:32
again, I repent. I'm sorry, I did that. So and now it's Oh,
46:38
patriots. We need missiles. Patriots. Patriots, patriots.
46:41
Alright, here's $6 billion. Shut up. Buy it from those guys. It's
46:47
all a buy, Bill. It's insane. Okay. We're being ripped off
46:54
your watch. For being ripped off gambling. They're ripped off.
46:59
Unbelievable. What a Jip. Jip,
47:04
John C Dvorak: what a jet.
47:08
Adam Curry: All right. Anyway, that's, that's my presentation.
47:11
That's
47:11
John C Dvorak: your rant here as my president that's my presence
47:13
or shadows. Well,
47:15
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm, I'm fed up. I'm sad. I'm sad. That, that
47:20
people are falling into the same trap of arguing on social media,
47:27
spurred on often by the King, I should say the queen of social
47:34
media, Elon Musk, which everyone thinks oh, he's, he's without
47:38
him. We wouldn't have free speech. You wait, what's coming
47:41
with x? You? Wait, you wait, oh, you'll have your free speech
47:45
when he has your payment details. So we can find? Yeah,
47:49
you just wait. It's all coming down. Here. But none meantime,
47:54
let's, I'm going to send this podcast or a piece of my mind.
48:01
John C Dvorak: I think you'd get more, you've got probably got
48:04
more. I got some targeted notes. But you probably get, but it's
48:09
you probably got to bribe me.
48:10
Adam Curry: But when I when when people say why did you purposely
48:14
lie? What are you talking about? It's what benefit
48:20
John C Dvorak: to what I'm convinced you what was what was
48:22
the lie? I didn't get that? Oh, the lie
48:25
Adam Curry: is that I said based upon I think good evidence that
48:31
good historical comparisons, which partially came from that
48:35
Hudson professor, is that the United States is running the
48:41
energy all around the world. We've been doing it for a long
48:44
time, the project for New American Century, which required
48:49
the world trade we required to get us into war, which when you
48:53
know, instead of going to Afghanistan, we went to Iraq.
48:55
What Okay, aluminum tubes. Then we killed a million Iraqis. We
49:01
stole all the oil, which yellow cake was yellow. Okay, we're
49:04
still in Syria, but somehow the Jews are running us. Stop it.
49:10
It's ridiculous on its face with that people are stuck in that.
49:13
And then when you say, hey, you know, it ain't all that bad.
49:17
Then it's then you get the pro Palestinian people. So we are
49:20
right over the target because it's coming in from both sides.
49:23
This is like
49:25
John C Dvorak: COVID, Flack, Slack, but it's like being in a
49:27
b 29. It's like COVID in
49:29
Adam Curry: the beginning. And remember, Ukraine and Russia.
49:32
You guys are on the wrong side of history.
49:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we lost the last but then
49:39
Adam Curry: Tucker does an interview with Putin. Oh, well,
49:41
you know, hey, it's pretty good now. Yeah, yeah,
49:43
John C Dvorak: he went to a grocery store even but people
49:46
Adam Curry: people, we can't say them. That's unsavable I'm glad
49:49
I'm old. Glad I can retire. Bill. I don't think I'm gonna
49:55
make four more years. You got to do something else podcast
49:59
pastor. There you go. I'll do something else. Podcast,
50:02
John C Dvorak: Pastor, podcast past guests, and if I have three
50:07
clips about the protests, I want to get them out of the way.
50:09
Okay, good to go. These are student protests. I saw a
50:12
student protests rapping in PR.
50:16
Adam Curry: Okay we go. student protests
50:18
Unknown: in solidarity with Gaza have spread to campuses across
50:22
the US demanding that universities disclose financial
50:25
ties to Israel and divest. amperes Jasmine Garst has more.
50:30
The
50:30
protests have moved into schools not historically associated with
50:33
activism like the University of Southern California. Several
50:37
schools have come under fire for allowing police to come onto
50:40
campus. Over 100 protesters were arrested at Columbia University
50:44
last week. The University of Texas in Austin and the
50:47
University of Southern California also saw student
50:50
activists arrested at Emory in Georgia. The student newspaper
50:54
reported that the Atlanta police deployed a tear gas into the
50:58
crowd of protests. With graduation nearing many
51:01
universities are changing plans. The University of Southern
51:04
California has canceled its main ceremony. Columbia says it's
51:09
negotiating with student protesters to have the campus
51:12
cleared by me 15 for graduation,
51:16
Adam Curry: graduation.
51:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right. So there's that's the catch up
51:21
and then we have I have this WTF clip, which is a clip I always
51:24
put aside. Short, the short, this is a seven seconds of
51:29
something. Let's see what it is to
51:30
Unknown: continue negotiating with the students and getting
51:33
that encampment cleared in time for graduation on May 14.
51:38
John C Dvorak: Okay. Oh, yes. Glad we played What was weird
51:41
about that clip you think?
51:43
Adam Curry: Let me listen to it again,
51:44
Unknown: to continue negotiating with the students and getting
51:47
that encampment cleared in time for graduation on May 14.
51:53
John C Dvorak: Graduation on May 14,
51:56
Adam Curry: is that I don't know. I didn't go to college. So
51:59
you went to high school? In Holland.
52:02
John C Dvorak: Whoa, wherever you went may 14. I mean, it
52:06
seems to me you'd be graduating in June. At least the mid to mid
52:12
June, May. Or May. This is long. So we got what it may 14 test
52:18
school ends on May 14 and eight what the teachers, professors,
52:21
whatever they are called what you want. What they get five
52:25
months off. I mean, what is it because they didn't know that I
52:27
would get back into October. But what did what did they tighten
52:31
the year so why you Mazal graduate them now because
52:34
they're not going to learn anything more you
52:36
Adam Curry: act like like these degrees are of any value that
52:40
they mean anyway.
52:42
John C Dvorak: You can make that point you can make that point.
52:45
The third clip is the Jews in protest at Columbia.
52:52
Unknown: There have been charges of anti semitism at some of
52:55
these protests. What did you find on campus?
52:58
So yesterday at a press conference hosted by Columbia,
53:01
Barnard Hello, several pro Israel students expressed fear
53:05
and anger. Here's no with Fay.
53:07
No one is above the law. Arrest the students on Butler law and
53:12
discipline those that continue to call for the death of my
53:15
friends and family will get me the Jew facing this. I am not
53:20
afraid anymore. So why should the administration be?
53:23
She pointed out that one of the leaders of the Columbia
53:26
encampment in a social media video called for the death of
53:29
Zionists has since apologized and been barred from campus. Now
53:34
a few days ago, I also had a chance to sit down with Sarah
53:37
Boris. She's one of the students who were arrested last week at
53:41
Columbia. She's been suspended she can't go back on campus. She
53:45
herself is Jewish. And she says the only thing making her feel
53:48
unsafe right now is the heightened police presence
53:52
in my capacity as a Jewish students. I feel safe, but not
53:57
with all of the militarization of our campus. I don't think
54:00
anyone feels safe on our campus because of the way that minutia.
54:05
feek and the administration have escalated the situation
54:09
in which she told me as she feels protesting Israel's mass
54:12
killings makes her a better deal.
54:18
John C Dvorak: I just did, which I'm sure now that's fine. That's
54:21
fine. Yes. Very funny.
54:23
Adam Curry: All right. Let me ask you some questions. So the
54:25
comparisons are made between the protests and Kent State, and
54:30
then the the shot some students, but this and of course, I wasn't
54:36
really consciously aware of those things, because it was a
54:40
little before my time. But weren't the protests at the time
54:44
because the comparisons are being made? Yeah. Oh, look, oh,
54:47
look at these. Look at these military age men coming in with
54:51
the police. Wasn't that about the draft and Vietnam? It was
54:56
about Vietnam period. We should give these kids something to
54:58
really protest about A well drafted, I find this
55:02
John C Dvorak: to be rather, you know, for example, and we talked
55:06
about on this show even though people don't appreciate it the
55:11
number of dead Ukrainians is up through the roof. It's like
55:15
that's the genocide is almost a complete elimination of the
55:18
Ukrainian from Ukraine's from the gene pool their Africa we
55:25
which we rarely talk about because that really kills us.
55:29
There's hundreds of 1000s of dead because of all these little
55:32
skirmishes that are going on around here and they're all
55:35
throughout Africa. We did we, we were militarized, Chad and we
55:40
just left it. We don't we haven't talked about that at all
55:42
on the show because nobody cares. And so if you're going to
55:45
be that concerned about, you know, these sorts of
55:48
conflagrations as a student, why aren't you concerned about these
55:53
other ones you don't know about anybody but you don't know
55:57
Indians? They don't know been to Palestine is any of these
56:00
students if you've been to Israel, let alone Palestine? I
56:03
don't think
56:03
Adam Curry: either they can they point to it on a map? Probably
56:06
not. No, this is Black Lives Matter activation to what it is.
56:10
It gives everybody a chance to go out and do speeches, write
56:13
books, where you can be appearances and you meet meet
56:16
chicks. That's right. Meanwhile, there's
56:18
John C Dvorak: a get facial tattoos. It's kind of a
56:21
drawback. There's
56:22
Adam Curry: some interesting similarities between the EU and
56:26
what's happening here in the United States. This seems to be
56:31
a trend that is growing. It's
56:33
Unknown: a measure that's gaining traction, nighttime
56:36
curfews for minors as a means to allegedly curb youth violence.
56:40
The first of this most recent spate of curfews began when
56:43
interior ministers l Domina. Announced on a visit to the
56:46
French territory of Guadalupe that appointed beat curfew for
56:49
those under 18 would begin April 22. It was the devil so it gets
56:54
measured, the government says is an attempt to curb rising
56:56
violence for police officers. The week began with ID checks
57:00
and phone calls home to parents. Okay,
57:03
Adam Curry: so we have a curfew, because I guess it's dangerous
57:07
that kids are on the street, kids kids and but this is now
57:11
happening in New Jersey in Newark specifically,
57:14
Unknown: they say they want to focus on making children making
57:17
sure that children are safe. And they want to make sure that the
57:20
families have the help they need to do so. So this new summer
57:24
initiative, they are calling the summer of hope. So unless
57:28
they're in they're involved in a city, church or organization
57:32
involved activity, children 17 and under, cannot be out by
57:36
themselves within 100 yards from their home. This expanded plan
57:40
now has social workers who will make contact with those kids who
57:44
are caught violating the curfew, they will first focus on trying
57:48
to get the child back to an adult family member, or the city
57:51
has a reengagement center that those kids would be taken to or
57:54
even the hospital until a relative is found. And any
57:58
family that seems to be in crisis, where some intervention
58:01
might lead to a happier, safer home. That too, will now be
58:05
available kind
58:06
Adam Curry: of flows into your observation that parents are
58:09
going to be blamed for everything. Yeah. So what is
58:14
this coming? Since when do we have curfew for people under 18?
58:18
What is this? This is this is troubling.
58:21
John C Dvorak: I recall it from this, I think when I was a
58:24
little kid why they used to have curfews really all over the
58:30
country. Yeah.
58:31
Adam Curry: Okay. What were the socio economic circumstances at
58:35
the time?
58:37
John C Dvorak: It was Sunday. I think it fell back. I think it
58:41
stemmed from the leftover ideas from the 30s or 40s. Now, but
58:46
what when they were fused during the war? Yeah, there were
58:50
curfews, I remember distinctly, as a little kid, I done that
58:55
there were curfews and people would talk and it was like a 10
58:57
o'clock curfew for every teenager. Really? Yeah. I think
59:01
that lasted until the I don't know, the
59:04
Adam Curry: sweet it stopped until until the roaring 20s
59:10
John C Dvorak: Biden joke. So no, it's not unusual. I think
59:14
the history of curfews in this country is maybe just forgotten
59:19
history.
59:21
Adam Curry: Anyway, but you know, just looking at at France,
59:24
it doesn't really matter because President Macron has made very
59:28
clear where they're headed
59:29
Unknown: Europe could die.
59:32
Adam Curry: Europe could die Europe could die.
59:35
Unknown: That was one of Emmanuel Macron safety warnings
59:38
on Thursday in a landmark speech at the Sorbonne University in
59:42
Paris. The rallying cry involved a range of topics including
59:46
Europe's cybersecurity relations with post Brexit Britain,
59:51
Russia's continued invasion of Ukraine and the Europe's
59:54
challenges faced with a major competitors who play by
59:57
different rules.
1:00:00
Adam Curry: Europe could die send your checks Europe could
1:00:03
die
1:00:04
John C Dvorak: what is the what was the point of that? What is
1:00:06
he trying to what what is he What is he trying to either
1:00:09
elicit he's trying to scare people is trying to scare people
1:00:12
but but scare him anyway. Does that scare him?
1:00:17
Unknown: Okay into I
1:00:19
John C Dvorak: mean, what does it mean they get to me the day
1:00:21
or the farmlands not gonna go away. So
1:00:25
Adam Curry: when they put all the earth when people are taxed
1:00:28
for climate change and military purchases, that they'll feel
1:00:32
good about it because you know, we could die. You might die. I
1:00:36
mean, come on, as you mind that, by the way, Craig Weinberg says
1:00:39
they've got a curfew curfew for youth in their town. This is how
1:00:43
many curfews do we have in America? This is interesting.
1:00:45
I'd love to know. Yeah, I
1:00:47
John C Dvorak: think there's more than you think clearly.
1:00:50
Adam Curry: I mean, if we need a curfew, is it going to be for
1:00:53
the cicadas?
1:00:55
John C Dvorak: Oh, brother, have you heard
1:00:57
Adam Curry: anywhere? It's starting now. It's finally so I
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: can't be starting yet. Oh, yes. This is the time
1:01:03
this is two of the biggest broods is like they like to call
1:01:07
them I think it's number 13 and eight or some I get no, no the
1:01:10
numbers we have a lot of them in the United States is crawling
1:01:14
with Sir K with psychiatrists or cicada psychiatrists? I made it
1:01:19
to Mata they. This these two groups combined is going to be a
1:01:24
nightmare.
1:01:26
Adam Curry: Do you want to hear this report from NBC?
1:01:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'd love the I would. Somebody suggested
1:01:31
that we use it as a foundational story for donations. I don't
1:01:37
know how well see if Jeff Qaeda lands on your on your end it
1:01:42
will if you're in the area, one of them's gonna land it. They're
1:01:45
gonna land right on your shoulder. And it's scary and I
1:01:48
would that means you should donate $500 Well,
1:01:50
Adam Curry: I love in this report how this this is of
1:01:53
biblical proportions.
1:01:58
Unknown: Biggest invasion in hundreds of years. Not millions.
1:02:03
Not billions, but likely trillions of these pesky
1:02:06
incredibly loud cicadas. And right here in Georgia. The
1:02:12
invasion has begun. It is shocking to see this many and
1:02:16
they're already coming out in South Carolina where they're
1:02:19
taking over Sarah Weinberg's backyard. When did you think he
1:02:22
was going to be this bad?
1:02:24
No, no,
1:02:26
I really wasn't prepared because I've never seen this before.
1:02:29
This is my first invasion.
1:02:31
They moved in and they have stayed. stayed mostly under her
1:02:36
gazebo cling on to every corner and crevice. They think this is
1:02:40
a safe spot. It's already getting so loud in Newberry
1:02:44
County. People are calling the sheriff to complain.
1:02:47
We had a leak beer. We had clips. Now we've got the cicadas
1:02:52
everywhere.
1:02:53
Why so many this year. Last added cicadas comes out every 17
1:02:58
years, another every 13 years. This year. There's an emergence
1:03:03
of both broods that hasn't happened since 1803. They're
1:03:07
coming out from Alabama to Missouri, and where they may
1:03:11
overlap the most Illinois.
1:03:14
They're talking epic numbers biblical kind of numbers of them
1:03:19
in that area.
1:03:20
Something historic potentially,
1:03:22
in the Midwest definitely is historic for sure. So
1:03:24
Augusta, Georgia Agriculture agent Campbell Vaughn, cicadas
1:03:28
are harmless, but very loud. The
1:03:31
males are making the noise and it's a little bitty buzz can
1:03:35
hear that.
1:03:37
So we have the sound level meter here. So let's pause and just
1:03:41
see how loud they really are
1:03:44
about 6060 decibels right here.
1:03:47
But at their peak that could skyrocket to 100 decibels. About
1:03:51
the same as a lawnmower.
1:03:53
Enjoy the noises bridges are really a neat thing. So don't
1:03:56
get too freaked out by them.
1:04:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was in Georgia 17 years ago.
1:04:06
Adam Curry: During the previous brood, yeah,
1:04:09
John C Dvorak: be the previous outbreak. And it is noisy. Yeah.
1:04:15
I don't remember everywhere you go and you walk in you walk down
1:04:18
this you know if you're like I remember being in Buckhead, and
1:04:21
if you're anywhere near a tree, there's just they're all in the
1:04:26
tree and they're just making nothing but this noise is and
1:04:30
they're doing it and combined. It's just It's horrifying. Ly
1:04:33
loud. And I can see I don't know if it gets to 100 decibels but
1:04:37
which is pretty loud. But it's possible. Then they do land on
1:04:43
your shoulder. You walk around and boned wetlands. Oh,
1:04:45
Adam Curry: yeah. And we I have received several recipes for
1:04:48
cicada. Oh stralman What else you're going to do with your
1:04:52
time? We got to fill airtime people. Let's do a cicada
1:04:56
recipe. Yeah, Well, as you said, we we had we had an eclipse to
1:05:04
leap year global, it's
1:05:06
John C Dvorak: pretty it's a proof of climate change going to
1:05:08
sunny Hoskins on the view.
1:05:10
Adam Curry: Oh, do you have a clip? No, it's
1:05:12
John C Dvorak: from that. Oh, you talked about it? Yeah,
1:05:15
right. You're right. You're right. Okay, get some. I have an
1:05:20
interesting, two clips from. I think it's from NTD. Because
1:05:26
they have these discussions once in a while. And this is
1:05:28
something I think we should both listen to. And I think the
1:05:31
audience in general, and the producers in general would find
1:05:34
it insightful. It's about the government deciding that a non
1:05:41
compete is a illegal
1:05:45
Adam Curry: All right. Yes. And this is, is this aimed mainly at
1:05:48
the technology industry. I
1:05:50
John C Dvorak: don't know who it's aimed at. But it that's who
1:05:52
it affects the most. And so they discussed it a little bit in
1:05:55
that this word listening to
1:05:57
Unknown: Federal Trade Commission is getting sued by
1:05:59
the Chamber of Commerce and several business groups over
1:06:02
banning non compete agreements. Those prevent a person from
1:06:06
working in the same industry or starting a competing business
1:06:09
for some time after leaving a job. The FTC calls these
1:06:12
agreements, unfair, but some say the contracts, protect trade
1:06:16
secrets and encourage competition and entities. David
1:06:19
Lam spoke with Vance, again, president of good economic
1:06:22
consulting. He's also a former chief economist for the White
1:06:25
House Office of Management and Budget. Vance,
1:06:27
great to see you again. And thank you for joining us. Now
1:06:30
tell us what the FTC banning non compete agreements? What's the
1:06:34
impact on the job market?
1:06:35
Well, it's a pleasure to be with you. And I think that this will
1:06:38
have a big impact on the job market. There's a lot of
1:06:40
businesses out there where they negotiate these agreements, this
1:06:44
worker agreements with the worker, to not share information
1:06:49
or not have the same customers or clients after they leave.
1:06:52
That's kind of this non compete agreements that they sign in.
1:06:56
There are many of these across many sectors of the economy,
1:06:59
including a lot of those that are new innovations, technology
1:07:03
firms, manufacturing firms, those types, and it's really
1:07:07
across many sectors of the economy. And so this will have a
1:07:10
big influence on the workforce and the future of work. And I
1:07:14
really think I think at the end of the day, that this should be
1:07:16
overturned.
1:07:19
Adam Curry: Now what, so you didn't mention technology, but
1:07:24
if you have a non compete, and the company wants to hold you to
1:07:29
a non compete, is it not typical in a non compete agreement that
1:07:33
you then are paid? Even though you've left the company or
1:07:38
you've been fired, or what's generally
1:07:40
John C Dvorak: speaking, as far as I know, you when you leave
1:07:45
certain tech companies, you sign it you sign off on for money?
1:07:50
Yeah, a non disparagement clause?
1:07:54
Adam Curry: Well, non disparagement is different than
1:07:55
not non. I'm just saying,
1:07:58
John C Dvorak: you sign off on that. And, and in in certain
1:08:01
high tech companies, where there's actually technology
1:08:03
involved where you'd learn something. Or if you're in
1:08:06
sales, you have developed a Rolodex, you sign off on a non
1:08:11
compete that means you can't use your own Rolodex for X number of
1:08:15
years Wink, wink, nudge nudge, yeah, that's not going to work.
1:08:18
But but it will work if you for example, and this happens in the
1:08:22
in the chip industry, because I was involved in a couple of
1:08:27
lawsuits as an expert witness, where you, and you get to see
1:08:32
the kind of the ins how the sausage is made when you're an
1:08:35
expert witness. They, Intel and AMD, for example, were suing
1:08:40
each other constantly over one thing or another. And what they
1:08:43
would do is they would find a circuit design of some sort that
1:08:48
was used in a competing chip. And then they would track down
1:08:53
an employee who happened to be working in engineering that
1:08:57
would know that design, and then they would sue. Because it's
1:09:01
obviously the guy took the design from one company and took
1:09:04
it to the other company. Right. And so they have this so the
1:09:08
design of today's chips has been done ever since the late 80s.
1:09:13
I'm pretty sure even before then, the so called clean room
1:09:17
designs were to prevent this sort of lawsuit, the companies
1:09:23
would make sure nobody working on the design of this new chip
1:09:29
worked for anybody else. excepted, you know, pretty much
1:09:33
fresh out of school or they came from Russia, or who knows where
1:09:36
that's where a lot of the design work for Intel, for example, is
1:09:39
done in Haifa, Israel. In fact, we have a lot of chip designers
1:09:44
that are scattered around the world. A lot of the chip designs
1:09:47
for microprocessors is done by Indians. It because the Indians
1:09:53
for some unknown reason have this natural ability to they
1:09:57
have a knack for designing processors. So this was it
1:10:01
becomes very complicated because these things are so valuable and
1:10:04
because when you design some something new a new circuit, and
1:10:08
you can sell it for half the price of somebody else's thing,
1:10:10
you can just get rid rich overnight. Why
1:10:12
Adam Curry: do you think this is in play now? And what why is the
1:10:16
Federal Trade Commission all of a sudden, jumping into this,
1:10:20
this must there must be something brewing and someone's
1:10:23
paid off? Some people agree. And it seems fishy about to me like
1:10:29
this would be an AI chip design deal that somewhat maybe it's
1:10:33
John C Dvorak: China, China, maybe involved here, Sam
1:10:35
Adam Curry: Altman, with his you know, he may be got that $7
1:10:38
trillion, he needs to make it work. Finally,
1:10:43
John C Dvorak: LET'S PLAY CLIP tune, we'll figure it out. Now,
1:10:45
Unknown: events under these non compete agreements, how long did
1:10:48
employees typically have to wait after they quit their job before
1:10:52
moving to a new company in the same industry? Well, it
1:10:55
depends on the agreement that they signed, sometimes it could
1:10:57
be six months, sometimes it could be a year. Other times
1:11:00
these non compete agreements can be more than a year. And so that
1:11:03
can put some strain on individuals, whenever they go
1:11:07
and try to find another job. However, they usually get paid
1:11:11
more when they have a non compete agreement, because as
1:11:14
they go into these negotiations, you can either get a job that
1:11:17
doesn't have a non compete agreement, or you take a job
1:11:19
that has one, you're going to want a higher pay or more
1:11:22
benefits.
1:11:23
Now moving forward, if businesses aren't allowed to
1:11:25
have these specialized contracts, how would they ensure
1:11:28
that their trade secrets won't be revealed to other companies
1:11:32
from their former employees?
1:11:33
Well, I think that's a great question. And I think it's one
1:11:36
that a lot of these employers are going to look at and say, Do
1:11:40
we really want to hire as many workers if we're going to have
1:11:43
to be concerned about trade secrets, other things being
1:11:47
released, or clients and things of that nature being released,
1:11:50
because that will reduce their profitability over time? What we
1:11:54
want really is a more competitive labor market, not
1:11:57
one that it's gonna be based on what's the next rule put in
1:12:00
place by the FTC, by the Biden administration, or even by
1:12:03
states, we should be unleashing people to allow for them to
1:12:06
negotiate whatever the agreements are going to be. And
1:12:09
so I think this is going to hurt not only employment, but wages
1:12:12
and fringe benefits for the future. This should really be
1:12:14
something that's done with voluntary transactions. Hmm.
1:12:19
Adam Curry: Well, I think that'll be unveiled soon enough.
1:12:21
We'll find out why this there's
1:12:23
John C Dvorak: something up with this and it out of the blue
1:12:27
happened a couple of weeks ago, I guess, out of the blue,
1:12:30
generally speaking, a lot of companies will do will take care
1:12:33
of these some of these, these fears by by keeping secret,
1:12:38
their employee roster. I noticed this, you see this on TV shows
1:12:43
occasionally the Greg Gutfeld show, for example, never runs a
1:12:48
credit roll ever. So you don't know the route writers are for
1:12:51
the writers. Yeah, I guess it's to protect the writers they do.
1:12:55
Bill Maher runs a credit roll with it, you find out there's 12
1:12:58
writers there and you can get their names. And if you wanted
1:13:00
to poach him, you could, but some of these shows, I don't
1:13:03
know why they do that. They I don't know if they're paying
1:13:07
extra so they don't get credit. I'm not sure. But the thing is,
1:13:12
it's a big deal that I think non compete is I think it's a fair
1:13:17
idea in tech. Because these ideas some of these trade
1:13:22
secrets are just little gimmicks and if you don't want them out,
1:13:26
Adam Curry: Well how about this? I need to review our agreement
1:13:31
because if I accept the offer to go do my own show on the blaze,
1:13:35
I mean, can you stop me from doing that with our non compete?
1:13:39
John C Dvorak: No, I actually had to been agreed to 10 years
1:13:42
ago. Excellent. To go work for the blaze and you end up like
1:13:47
Hello. Who's Rubin? Red? So
1:13:51
Adam Curry: red say making new video over there.
1:13:54
Unknown: Yeah.
1:13:57
Adam Curry: blink blink. Yeah, the blaze rocks. That's right.
1:14:05
John, I'd never I would never forsake you. All for one. Oh,
1:14:09
here we go. One where we go all Glenn bells. Good. Glenn Beck's
1:14:15
calling.
1:14:17
John C Dvorak: Again, again, backs on the line. Usually it
1:14:21
would be better if Glenn Beck actually listened to the show.
1:14:24
But no, that would be a start.
1:14:28
Adam Curry: It would be surprising. It's like whatever
1:14:30
happened to was the big black guy. What's his name?
1:14:35
John C Dvorak: The big black guy. Yeah.
1:14:38
Adam Curry: It used to be on Tucker all the time. He went to
1:14:41
the blaze and they just it's like it's Oh,
1:14:44
John C Dvorak: yeah, they athlete. The guy used his report
1:14:46
on sports. Yeah, that guy. Oh, IQ. This is how it goes. Yeah, I
1:14:52
don't even remember who he is. We can't even remember his name
1:14:55
because he went over to the blaze and disappeared. Troll
1:14:58
Adam Curry: rooms trying to help Shaquille O'Neal. You don't
1:15:00
know. And that wasn't him. No, no,
1:15:01
John C Dvorak: no. No So, whit Whitmore Whitman, Whitlock
1:15:06
Whitlock? Jason Whitlock. There
1:15:08
Adam Curry: we go Jason Whitlock.
1:15:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah Jason Witten like great material. Always good
1:15:14
for a clip and now it's like what where he is with
1:15:19
Adam Curry: all the with all the protection of the Jews I'm doing
1:15:21
how come Ben Shapiro hasn't called for me to fill in for
1:15:24
Candace Owens? Yeah, you could fit right in there right in over
1:15:28
there.
1:15:29
John C Dvorak: I don't think it talked fast enough. It could
1:15:33
speed up I could do old school you talk normal speed, I
1:15:36
Adam Curry: could speed it up. No problem. I can I can do it.
1:15:41
Well, good news, after the mRNA jab has reportedly been possibly
1:15:51
responsible for turbo cancers. Right when we expect it, it's
1:15:57
back on the list everybody, we're going to use the mRNA
1:16:00
technology to
1:16:01
Unknown: skin cancer patients in the UK have begun taking part in
1:16:04
a trial aimed at developing the first personalized vaccine for
1:16:09
melanoma. experimental treatment uses the same technology as some
1:16:13
COVID-19 jabs results from an earlier stage of the trial
1:16:18
suggests that using it in combination with another drug
1:16:22
reduces the risk of recurrence or death by 49%. After three
1:16:26
years, health correspondingly, Hutchinson has the report. I
1:16:30
Adam Curry: love the fact that keeps saying in with another
1:16:34
cancer drug which they never mentioned in the report. And I
1:16:36
have yet to find out what it is Steve
1:16:39
Unknown: Young, one of the first NHS patients to take part in the
1:16:42
trial for what hoped will be a game changing treatment. It's
1:16:46
for melanoma, the deadliest of all the skin cancers. And it
1:16:50
aims to help those at the highest risk of a recurrence.
1:16:54
Steve was given the experimental treatment at University College
1:16:58
Hospital in London, he had a melanoma removed from his scalp
1:17:01
last summer, he told us the trial is his best chance of
1:17:05
keeping cancer free. I feel like case someone told me I've got
1:17:10
survivor syndrome because I actually feel guilty. I feel
1:17:13
guilty that I'm completely fine. And yet I'm getting all this
1:17:18
attention. And I'm you know, I get to have a scan and an MRI
1:17:22
every three months when I know that people are waiting such a
1:17:26
long time. And I genuinely feel kind of awful about that. But I
1:17:33
just really hope that what's happening with the trial and the
1:17:37
results they get are going to be good news, and it's going to go
1:17:41
on to do amazing things.
1:17:43
Adam Curry: I mean, this is exactly what we knew what
1:17:45
happened. When particularly with certainly in the US with
1:17:50
President Biden's Cancer Moonshot, here they come mRNA
1:17:55
it's the solution to all your problems. Everything's going to
1:17:58
be fixed with mRNA.
1:17:59
Unknown: The personalized treatment works by identifying
1:18:02
proteins unique to each person's cancer and then uses the same
1:18:07
technology which created so
1:18:10
John C Dvorak: that they get up the so this vaccine quote is
1:18:18
only used on people who have melanoma.
1:18:24
Adam Curry: Please go away with your logic. Okay, stop being
1:18:29
logical. Yes, it's a it's a vaccine that you
1:18:35
John C Dvorak: both who who already have answer yes, or I
1:18:38
had melanoma.
1:18:40
Adam Curry: But don't just don't you understand that this is just
1:18:43
the trial in conjunction with some other magical Yeah,
1:18:48
John C Dvorak: I understand that except for the little tidbit in
1:18:51
there, which is that the vaccine is based on your personal
1:18:57
protein profile from the melanoma you had. So yeah, trial
1:19:03
or no trial. You got good with this do anyone who's never had
1:19:08
melanoma?
1:19:09
Adam Curry: None. That's not the point it Vax vaccine is now the
1:19:13
definition has been changed. We saw this happen.
1:19:16
John C Dvorak: Well, I know that I'm just it's just screwy seems
1:19:20
to me, personalized
1:19:21
Unknown: treatment works by identifying proteins unique to
1:19:25
each person's cancer, and then uses the same technology, which
1:19:29
created some COVID vaccines called M RNA to prime the immune
1:19:34
system to attack the cells. It's being used in combination with
1:19:38
another choice.
1:19:40
John C Dvorak: So this is going to be like the spike protein. In
1:19:45
other words, you have some proteins that are that are
1:19:48
related to your cancer so
1:19:50
Unknown: we're going to give you more or create more
1:19:52
Adam Curry: of them. Yes, that's that's in
1:19:54
John C Dvorak: your own system. So you need to be covered with
1:19:56
melanoma. I'm not understanding the again how this is supposed
1:19:59
to be work, it's been your immune system suppose to kick it
1:20:02
up a notch Yeah,
1:20:03
Adam Curry: and then attack your immune system, which is, in
1:20:06
essence, what cancer already is. I'm not sure combination
1:20:10
Unknown: with another cancer drug. And previous results
1:20:12
suggest together, it will most have the risk of recurrence or
1:20:16
death after three years, is
1:20:18
a very specific treatment highly personalized to each
1:20:21
individual's tumor. And it's a really exciting way of hopefully
1:20:26
exciting turning the patient's own immune system against their
1:20:29
cancer. And it looks like it could be a really effective,
1:20:33
effective approach, this trial will really prove that's the
1:20:37
case on safe
1:20:38
Adam Curry: and effective. Well, there's a lot that it's really
1:20:41
interesting how medical science took a huge corner turn with
1:20:46
COVID. And we knew that we knew this was going to happen. And
1:20:50
we're not actually surprised that this great mRNA technology,
1:20:54
which you know, you should get a booster, because they last 60
1:20:57
days, that you know that this was all going to happen. safe
1:21:02
and effective. And so as a part of this, we talked about, I have
1:21:07
a couple of clips here I need to play through these. Because, you
1:21:14
know, I'm gonna go back to what Texas limb said like the common
1:21:18
for your cows, they're coming for your beef, it's going to be
1:21:21
the summer of Chinese pork. And, and we're going to be in you
1:21:25
just look at all the fake food products that are being created
1:21:30
with tastes and texture chemicals so that it'll taste
1:21:33
good. It doesn't matter what it is you're eating, it'll taste
1:21:36
like beef, you'll think it's beef, but you're eating you
1:21:39
know, cells that were grown in a lab. And and so cells so what
1:21:45
what is happening here now is we have an attack on the ranching
1:21:50
industry on the beef industry. It says there's just some
1:21:54
starting it's slowly and they've done a really good job. What are
1:21:58
you doing?
1:21:59
John C Dvorak: There's a spider on the Aranda papers. That's
1:22:03
harsh. I had to kill it.
1:22:05
Adam Curry: Did you get it? Did you get them by No,
1:22:08
John C Dvorak: no I did was really one of those fast little
1:22:10
one saw,
1:22:11
Adam Curry: ya know, you got to nail those right away. Because
1:22:13
they creep into your ear at night and lay eggs. And so So we
1:22:19
already know that they've been doing this testing in the milk,
1:22:24
because they can't get onto ranches to go and you know, the
1:22:27
ranchers like no, you're not going to test my cows, I know
1:22:30
exactly what you're gonna do. You say my cows got bird flu,
1:22:32
you're gonna make me kill them all. So they're testing the milk
1:22:35
with PCR, which we know is you can detect anything you want to
1:22:40
HIV in your milk, just crank it up to 40 cycles and look for
1:22:44
HIV. And you'll have HIV in here. But everything
1:22:46
John C Dvorak: I want to mention a complaint that Mimi had about
1:22:49
the show, or at least lessons. Yeah, she's been listening for
1:22:55
the last couple of years. It's weird. To make sure you don't
1:23:00
botch the meet up, so yes, I don't know. But she said that we
1:23:04
should note that the bad milk that PCR where these fragments
1:23:10
come from, they've been feeding cows ground up chickens, and
1:23:15
many often may be part of a call of, of bird flu chickens. So
1:23:20
they grind up the chickens and feed the chicken shit and the
1:23:24
chickens to some of these large herds that Texas live would know
1:23:29
about this. And bingo, you get a little a couple of fragments of
1:23:32
bird flu in the milk DAG, Gosh, what a surprise. Because they
1:23:37
because our, our industrial food complex really doesn't care
1:23:43
about anything except you know, getting as much profit as they
1:23:46
can.
1:23:48
Adam Curry: Correct. So, but I think that this is a larger
1:23:52
scheme that's at foot here. And they they parlay it all into
1:23:56
well, you know, you don't want that to be you know,
1:23:58
transferring over to humans and just all complete nonsense. But
1:24:04
they're ramping it up and I think they're ramping it up to
1:24:06
get rid of cows. They'll start with milk cows and then we'll
1:24:11
just listen to the reports because it's ramped up a little
1:24:13
bit. We've seen this happen over the past couple of weeks. Now we
1:24:16
know from last week's clips of they're using PCR to test the
1:24:20
milk. Well, you can find anything in milk The
1:24:22
Unknown: FDA says one out of every five samples of milk and
1:24:26
recently tested contains traces of the bird flu. Experts say
1:24:30
that suggests more cows may be infected than originally
1:24:33
thought. Officials say pasteurized milk remains safe to
1:24:36
drink. So far, bird flu has been detected in 33 herds across
1:24:40
eight states. Now the concern is that the virus could mutate and
1:24:44
potentially pose a larger risk for people 33
1:24:47
Adam Curry: So there's there's your magic number three, there's
1:24:51
John C Dvorak: always your code. I got more than mutate.
1:24:53
Everything can mutate. So watch
1:24:55
Adam Curry: out well. Okay, now we go to by the way, I
1:24:58
John C Dvorak: also want to queue Is the vegans of having
1:25:01
something to do with this? Oh
1:25:04
Adam Curry: for sure we're just gonna blame the vegans on
1:25:05
everything of course. So that was ABC now we go to CBS.
1:25:11
Unknown: America's dairy cows will be tested for bird flu more
1:25:14
closely to stop the virus from spreading new rules were put in
1:25:18
place yesterday, after the FDA reported finding fragments of
1:25:21
the bird flu virus rules to rise grocery store milk regulators
1:25:26
though say there is little risk to humans. Dr. Celine gounder is
1:25:30
a CBS News Medical contributor and editor at large for public
1:25:33
health at kFS. Health News. Good morning, Dr. gounder.
1:25:36
Adam Curry: I love to bring in a doctor not a veterinarian, bring
1:25:39
in a doctor. First I want
1:25:41
Unknown: to just ask you about that headline when I first read
1:25:44
this yesterday, of course, you know, alarm bells go off when
1:25:46
you hear that it's founded on grocery store shelves and
1:25:49
pasteurized milk. You
1:25:51
Adam Curry: know that you're right. There's I have not found
1:25:54
evidence of this yet. But I'm pretty sure the nut SAP industry
1:25:58
has a hand in this as well. Almond milk? Yeah,
1:26:01
John C Dvorak: the nuts app. And the fact that they get used that
1:26:04
word milk on their body is criminal a and by the way, this
1:26:08
is also the never ending attack on on delicious raw milk done by
1:26:15
providers who are super clean, because you have to be, you
1:26:18
know, run a really tight operation to sell raw milk in
1:26:21
the first place. But nobody likes it. We'd rather have the
1:26:24
milk boiled. You know, because these guys boil them out by
1:26:31
that. What
1:26:32
Unknown: do we what concerns should we have? Should we have
1:26:35
concerns?
1:26:36
I think we should be very clear that the tests that came back
1:26:39
positive are for the genetic material of the virus. This
1:26:42
could just be virus fragments, what's left over after
1:26:45
pasteurization? And so this by itself is not a reason for
1:26:49
alarm. There are additional tests being done to see is this
1:26:52
live infectious virus or is this just the dead virus we would
1:26:55
expect to see.
1:26:57
So drinking it you would you get sick drinking that milk,
1:27:00
presumably
1:27:02
simply the leftovers after pessaries pasteurization
1:27:05
process, you should not get sick. Now notice
1:27:08
Adam Curry: all the terms they're using dead virus. It's
1:27:11
all very COVID de COVID. Related this is this is a psychological
1:27:16
operation that is taking place. And remember Texas Slim's words
1:27:21
summer of Chinese pork. Let's see what's going on. We
1:27:25
Unknown: know that h five n one, the bird flu virus is prep. It's
1:27:29
out there. It's in the animal population. But when it comes to
1:27:32
human risk, there has been only one confirmed case. One or a
1:27:37
farm worker in Texas who has a confirmed case. So what can we
1:27:42
take? What can we gather from that when it comes to human risk
1:27:45
of transmission?
1:27:46
Well, there are some tests ongoing, so to see if there's
1:27:49
any live infectious virus in the milk supply. So what we do there
1:27:54
is we try to grow up any virus what we call culture. It's that
1:27:56
kind of tests we do. Those tests are still ongoing. We anticipate
1:28:00
those will come back negative pasteurization works for all the
1:28:04
viruses that we've tried to test this on so far. There's no
1:28:07
reason to think it wouldn't. But we want to confirm that that's
1:28:10
the case. The other thing we're looking out for is do we see
1:28:14
pigs infected pigs have traditionally been the mixing
1:28:17
vessel for human and bird flu. And that's how you get these
1:28:20
Frankenstein, scary flus. We have a bit of a blind spot on
1:28:24
right now. And so we need to be digging more into that
1:28:27
Adam Curry: this is how you get the Frankenstein. Scary flu is
1:28:31
the scary flu.
1:28:33
John C Dvorak: Like the scientific terminology. Yes,
1:28:35
Adam Curry: Frankenstein. Scary flu. All right. And now we go
1:28:38
into the final clip here of this doctor. And she lays out the
1:28:42
real problem.
1:28:43
Unknown: Is the government doing enough and the FDA and pharma?
1:28:47
What are we hearing about how these cases are being reported?
1:28:50
Or how?
1:28:50
Yeah, sure, I think there could be more transparency and
1:28:55
cooperation, whether it's against USDA, or farmers,
1:28:59
allowing the USDA and public health people on to farms to do
1:29:03
the testing. Some of the workers are not trustful of the
1:29:06
government and so don't want to come forward for testing. So
1:29:08
everybody needs to be working better together. Right?
1:29:11
Adam Curry: So these are just the dumb TV doctors. But for me,
1:29:14
it got a little more serious. When Scott Gottlieb former FDA
1:29:21
was it commissioner is
1:29:22
John C Dvorak: a former commissioner and he's now a
1:29:25
board member of Pfizer, right? And he's and he's got to be one
1:29:28
of the best agents that money can buy. He's
1:29:31
Adam Curry: sag AFTRA, and I think he has I think it's United
1:29:36
Artists who is his agent, but he's tied into not just Pfizer,
1:29:42
he's on the board there. What's the what's the other the other
1:29:46
company that does? Is also testing I forget the name, I
1:29:52
don't
1:29:52
John C Dvorak: know. Doesn't matter. Although I did test the
1:29:55
fact that he gets so much airtime. Well, he but
1:29:58
Adam Curry: here he really lays it out. because this is CNBC, so
1:30:01
this is meant to be for financial people. And he has
1:30:04
some additional details which I thought were at least
1:30:07
interesting with a funny little kicker from that. From that
1:30:11
host, what's his name? The guy who's, who doesn't care? who's
1:30:16
been there so long he just two or three of you. You'll know
1:30:20
what I'm talking about, Charlie. I think whatever. The
1:30:22
Unknown: reason why FDA and CDC did this testing of milk has got
1:30:25
that USDA APHIS. And state regulators wouldn't allow them
1:30:28
on the farms to do more widespread testing, because they
1:30:30
didn't really want to turn over those cases. And so this is a
1:30:34
bad Illumina
1:30:34
Adam Curry: Illumina. Thank you Illumina Yeah, they do the
1:30:38
assays and all that for the for the testing, they were also part
1:30:42
of the whole COVID scam. Okay, here we go, because
1:30:44
Unknown: they didn't really want to turn over those cases. And so
1:30:46
this is a backdoor way to do on farm testing. Instead of testing
1:30:49
the cows, you test the milk. And what we're finding is this virus
1:30:52
is much more pervasive on dairy farms right now. They're what we
1:30:55
originally perceived. And so that's unfortunate. Is that a
1:30:57
scary thing that could jump? fortunate because the more that
1:31:00
we allow this to spread and man, mammals and more, we're tempting
1:31:03
fate that this could evolve in ways that are threatened.
1:31:05
They're not letting people on because they don't want to call
1:31:06
the herds.
1:31:07
This is a historical problem. Answer
1:31:10
Adam Curry: is yes. That Yes. And if they want to go to can
1:31:15
see cattle and I will stand there. I'll go and block the
1:31:18
feds. We do not want these people testing your cows, even
1:31:23
though he doesn't have dairy cows. It'll come they're all no
1:31:25
beef cows. Oh, it's everywhere. Oh, oh, it's the horrible bird
1:31:28
flu. Oh, we got to call the cows. This is
1:31:30
Unknown: a historical problem. So when I had outbreaks of E.
1:31:32
Coli in romaine lettuce, I was my inspectors weren't allowed
1:31:36
on. So it was really
1:31:39
John C Dvorak: what he said when I had outbreaks.
1:31:42
Adam Curry: Yeah. When he was FDA commissioner. Yeah, but what
1:31:45
but okay, it's just the way he said it. I
1:31:47
Unknown: know, this is a historical problem. So when I
1:31:50
had outbreaks of E. Coli in romaine lettuce, I was my
1:31:53
inspectors weren't allowed onto the farms initially. So I sent
1:31:56
the inspectors to test the adjacent farms of water running
1:31:59
off from the farms that I thought the E coli was coming
1:32:03
from. There's always been a tension between the human health
1:32:05
people who would want to swab everything and animal health
1:32:08
people who are worried about some of the economic
1:32:10
implications and don't want federal inspectors on their
1:32:12
farms. And we've seen that play out here as well. This is a very
1:32:15
clever move by CDC and FDA to test the milk as a way to
1:32:18
identify which farms have outbreaks. Hopefully, it forces
1:32:21
the hands of agricultural officials to allow more broad
1:32:24
protesting. So
1:32:26
Adam Curry: for him that oh, this is very clever of CDC to
1:32:29
use PCR to find whatever they want. This is a hoax. This is a
1:32:34
complete hoax. They're coming for your beat me and I believe
1:32:37
this to be the losses and out here. Here's the here's the guy,
1:32:40
he makes a funny here.
1:32:41
John C Dvorak: Can I get any immunity from the milk from the
1:32:44
Franklins? Ah, well, how do you know?
1:32:47
Adam Curry: Can I get immunity from drinking milk? You're
1:32:50
Unknown: not going to get immunity from fragments of
1:32:53
John C Dvorak: protein? What if I got a spike protein
1:32:56
Unknown: from an h one and one because I would have been
1:32:58
transcribed into would have to be transcribed the protein, the
1:33:01
protein itself would probably be inactivated? I mean,
1:33:05
John C Dvorak: hold on a second. There is some logic to what he
1:33:08
says that leaves in denial. Gottlieb's
1:33:11
Adam Curry: I Homina Homina Homina.
1:33:13
John C Dvorak: No, let me drink more milk. I'll never get bird
1:33:16
flu.
1:33:17
Adam Curry: And then he says, Well, you know, I mean, it's
1:33:19
just fragments. I mean, because it's just PCR. Yeah,
1:33:22
John C Dvorak: well, actually, an attenuated flu vaccine is is
1:33:25
fragments. Yeah.
1:33:26
Adam Curry: No, because this is a lie. This is a big lie. For
1:33:31
nefarious reasons,
1:33:32
Unknown: agricultural officials to allow more broad broad
1:33:35
testing, can I get any
1:33:36
John C Dvorak: immunity from the milk from the fragments of age?
1:33:39
How do you know
1:33:40
Unknown: you're not gonna get immunity from fragments of
1:33:43
John C Dvorak: like protein? What if I got a fight protein
1:33:46
from an h1 in one because
1:33:48
Unknown: it would have been transcribed into would have to
1:33:50
be transcribed the protein, the protein itself would probably be
1:33:53
inactivated I mean, maybe
1:34:00
it was a vaccine is also antiviral drugs for this
1:34:02
particular there's
1:34:04
Adam Curry: a vaccine Don't worry, there's a vaccine, they
1:34:06
got a vaccine ready. You got a
1:34:09
John C Dvorak: vaccine. This is all about the vaccine. It's not
1:34:12
about they want to building the cattle or versus Texas. Slim's
1:34:16
fears or your fears about getting rid of all animals and
1:34:20
because the vegans are trying to take this is about selling a
1:34:23
vaccine that's going to be coming down the pike. Spin
1:34:27
people up about oh, bird flu my wife by the way, Mimi is one of
1:34:32
these people that is fearful of bird flu show it has been for 20
1:34:35
years. And Adele Okay, well, let's go get it. It's gonna be
1:34:39
mRNA Yeah,
1:34:41
Adam Curry: people are nosy for the cows. It's for the cows.
1:34:44
Okay, well, they can.
1:34:48
John C Dvorak: That's not good. No, of
1:34:49
Adam Curry: course not. We don't want mRNA in the cattle. No, but
1:34:54
that if when he says there's a vaccine, I'm thinking it's a
1:34:57
vaccine for the cattle. By the way. We We're not done there.
1:35:01
This will get Mimi spun up,
1:35:02
Unknown: the USDA is imposing a new rule on certain chicken
1:35:06
products to prevent poisoning. Makers of frozen breaded and
1:35:10
soft rock chicken products will have to reduce salmonella levels
1:35:14
starting next year
1:35:16
Adam Curry: gonna reduce salmonella levels. How about
1:35:20
zero salmonella? Is there salmonella in everything?
1:35:27
John C Dvorak: I thought I have a when you're done with that
1:35:29
play my salmonella clip. Now we can discuss okay
1:35:32
Unknown: makers of frozen breaded and stuffed raw chicken
1:35:35
products we'll have to reduce salmonella levels starting next
1:35:38
year, that's when the bacteria will officially be declared an
1:35:42
adulterant in raw poultry in the same way certain E. coli
1:35:45
bacteria are regarded as contaminants that must be kept
1:35:49
out of raw ground beef. The new rules will affect products like
1:35:53
frozen chicken cordon bleu as well as chicken Kyiv
1:35:57
Adam Curry: she said chicken Kyiv Don't you notice chicken
1:36:00
Kyiv hello and blue
1:36:01
Unknown: as well as chicken Kyiv the that appears to be fully
1:36:04
cooked but isn't they've been linked to more than 200
1:36:08
illnesses since 1998. All right,
1:36:11
John C Dvorak: so hold on his second 200 illnesses not deaths.
1:36:17
Adam Curry: Well I don't know if she Yeah
1:36:20
John C Dvorak: 100 says 9098 Yeah, so what is that? Eight a
1:36:24
year nine doing
1:36:25
Adam Curry: pretty good. I'm gonna play your salmonella clip
1:36:28
now us
1:36:29
Unknown: poultry producers will have to cut salmonella bacteria
1:36:32
and some chicken products same
1:36:34
Adam Curry: lady I don't think it is wow it sounds odd sounds
1:36:39
to me like the same way
1:36:40
John C Dvorak: the million million
1:36:42
Adam Curry: that was this is this is tripping me out Hold on
1:36:45
a second. Let me play the freaking
1:36:47
John C Dvorak: out Man figure it out man.
1:36:50
Adam Curry: Let me play the last bit of my clip and then I'll go
1:36:52
into yours
1:36:53
Unknown: that appears to be fully cooked but isn't they've
1:36:55
been linked to more than 200 illnesses. Since 1998.
1:37:00
US poultry producers will have to cut salmonella bacteria
1:37:03
different but same Millia in some chicken products to very
1:37:07
low levels to prevent food poisoning. A final Agriculture
1:37:10
Department regulation issue today applies to frozen breaded
1:37:14
and stuffed raw chicken. It takes effect next year.
1:37:17
salmonella poisoning causes roughly 420 deaths and 1.3
1:37:22
million infections annually in the US
1:37:25
Adam Curry: was a little different report there. Yep.
1:37:28
That's interesting. So
1:37:29
John C Dvorak: what does this all mean? It means as whoever's
1:37:31
got stock and Clorox you should probably invest more. The this
1:37:37
is a What are you gonna do? How do you get to salmonella? If you
1:37:40
dip to chicken? You get your chicken going on the line.
1:37:43
There's hundreds of these chickens 1000s of
1:37:46
Adam Curry: Bleach Bleach,
1:37:47
John C Dvorak: you drop it into a vat of bleach. Yeah. And you
1:37:51
pull it out of the bleach you rinse it off, it's going to
1:37:54
stink. It's also going to create that I don't know if people some
1:37:58
people would notice this was some vacuum pack some of you
1:38:01
would get it some places you you cut the bag open and a stench of
1:38:06
sulphurs comes out. This is largely due to the big treatment
1:38:10
that took place and affected the the surface of the product.
1:38:16
Yeah, they're gonna dip the chicken and bleach to what it
1:38:19
is. There's probably some company that makes a special
1:38:22
dipping device.
1:38:23
Adam Curry: How about this? How about we just get some you know
1:38:25
what? How about you get the book too many eggs from too many
1:38:29
eggs.com Too
1:38:31
John C Dvorak: many A's dot com it's got all
1:38:34
Adam Curry: one place to advertise Mimi's book many
1:38:37
eggs.com with many handy tips on how to not get salmonella from
1:38:41
John C Dvorak: you can get a free PDF just go to mini
1:38:45
Adam Curry: freeze all free free
1:38:47
John C Dvorak: is free free free
1:38:48
Adam Curry: and while you're there go to no agenda abc.com
1:38:52
not free but there's a cool coloring book for the kid exit
1:38:58
strategy and play
1:39:02
John C Dvorak: although I will say the coloring book is
1:39:04
dynamite
1:39:06
Adam Curry: yeah why I liked the book that's the $33 book that's
1:39:10
much better because
1:39:11
John C Dvorak: you get when you get your shed no yeah well was
1:39:14
shipped I got
1:39:15
Adam Curry: I got a notification it was shipped I got a
1:39:17
notification. Yes. Is it a hardcover? Is that hard?
1:39:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah. It's hard cover this a children's books
1:39:23
Classic is hard. Shiny cover.
1:39:25
Adam Curry: Yes. And we suggest that you that you that you read
1:39:29
this with your children when they have awkward questions like
1:39:32
What is shut up slave mean? I mean, these could be awkward
1:39:35
questions.
1:39:37
John C Dvorak: It doesn't really explain it.
1:39:39
Adam Curry: No, that's why the kid will have awkward questions.
1:39:42
John C Dvorak: Shut out slave.
1:39:46
Adam Curry: The kid will have awkward questions. So this this
1:39:49
is for kids from all over all ages. from three to 33. Exactly.
1:39:57
John C Dvorak: So we get that out of the way. How about But
1:40:01
Adam Curry: I'm just saying. I think they are coming for your
1:40:04
cattle and you'd like to see you wait, you wait. You wait. They
1:40:09
are coming for your beef. You
1:40:11
John C Dvorak: well I think they've been trying to come to
1:40:13
the beef for as long as they we've been alive
1:40:16
Adam Curry: they have but this is it. They've got a line going
1:40:18
on no pick. They got a lot of power.
1:40:21
John C Dvorak: Good luck. Here's my juice I carry over clips
1:40:25
Texas border.
1:40:27
Adam Curry: Oh, is that still going on from that phony Greg
1:40:30
Abbott
1:40:30
Unknown: a grand jury now indict a more than 100 illegal
1:40:33
immigrants for allegedly storming the Texas border.
1:40:37
Meanwhile, a government watchdog finds that the Biden
1:40:40
administration used border wall funds for environmental planning
1:40:43
instead.
1:40:45
What
1:40:47
a Texas grand jury on Tuesday indicted more than 140 illegal
1:40:52
immigrants on misdemeanor writing charges. That's for an
1:40:55
alleged mass attempt to breach the US Mexico border earlier
1:41:00
this month. This comes just a day after a county judge threw
1:41:04
the case out saying there was no probable cause for the arrests.
1:41:08
Speaking on MTV News Today, retired ice and Homeland
1:41:12
Security Officer Victor Avila says he doesn't understand why
1:41:16
the county judge dismissed the case. Arguing officers always
1:41:21
present at least some probable cause
1:41:23
never happened to me in my career when I arrested someone
1:41:27
on probable cause and then presented them before a judge
1:41:31
and the judge decided that there wasn't any goes to the bigger
1:41:34
picture here that there's politics involved. For some
1:41:38
reason, you're illegal in this country, you seem to get
1:41:41
additional protections. Yeah, exactly.
1:41:45
John C Dvorak: The American Way This is, uh, hold on a second.
1:41:48
This is in Texas. Yeah. You have a judge that's thrown out.
1:41:53
Despite the evidence, we all saw it and charging the border this
1:41:57
this group of people, and now there's no probable cause. Let
1:42:00
him go. What is going on in your state? Because you're always
1:42:05
condemning California. What about this guy? No,
1:42:09
Adam Curry: we're, our state is run by a globalist shill who
1:42:13
gets a pass because he's in a wheelchair. That's my, that's my
1:42:18
stance. That's what's happening. He is on the wrong side of all
1:42:21
of this, and he's a showboater. He goes down that border to
1:42:25
Eagle Pass. with it. It's a little bit of fence and complete
1:42:29
open border two miles on either side. And he pretends like he's
1:42:33
doing something great.
1:42:36
John C Dvorak: He's no hard to just
1:42:40
Unknown: explain how he managed to secure the indictments. He
1:42:43
told the El Paso Times that we presented the case as a whole.
1:42:48
We presented videotape evidence of what happened. The grand jury
1:42:53
believed there was in fact probable cause. And in other
1:42:57
immigration related news, the Government Accountability Office
1:43:01
issued a new report, it found that the Biden administration
1:43:05
spent funds allocated to the border wall, partly to conduct a
1:43:09
standard environmental planning instead. This is despite
1:43:13
Congress approving the funds for Homeland Security to build a
1:43:17
border barrier between 2018 and 2021. Republicans on the House
1:43:22
Budget Committee commented on the new report, saying DHS
1:43:26
continues to play political games that stall contractors and
1:43:30
prevent barriers from being built, effectively finding a way
1:43:34
to dodge the law. Okay,
1:43:36
Adam Curry: so I, um, thank you for bringing this up. Because
1:43:40
we'll also bring in Florida, also so tough on immigration. We
1:43:46
need to remind everybody that this is the this is the mission.
1:43:50
This is the mission that comes from the true Overlords of the
1:43:53
world, which is the money people. And we need to have
1:43:56
immigration coming in. We're not making children enough here,
1:44:00
despite the ozempic babies, which is a plus. For everyone
1:44:03
who's on those Empik your birth control doesn't work. So, you
1:44:08
know, that we got we're gonna have a little bit of a jump in
1:44:12
newborns. But we need to have replacements for people who are
1:44:19
not working don't want to work or just too old to work. And
1:44:23
that's the only way we win is to keep and to keep wages low
1:44:26
because the financial system has a real hard time with those 12
1:44:30
rate cuts we're supposed to get this year. So we need to
1:44:36
suppress wages. Everyone who's doing gig work, it's now done by
1:44:40
Venezuelans or others who are quickly getting work permits.
1:44:43
This is we're being robbed it's a gyp we're being robbed. Now
1:44:47
let's go to Florida because Oh, yeah, oh, the door the border.
1:44:51
So important. Thank you to our producer for catching this a
1:44:54
press release from March 12. So just just a month ago boca
1:45:00
ratone this company, a Geo Group, who are on the New York
1:45:05
Stock Exchange ticker Geo. The Geo Group announced his five
1:45:10
year contract five five year contract to provide air
1:45:13
operations support services for US Immigration and Customs
1:45:17
Enforcement. What do you think that's for? has to fly him in?
1:45:24
John C Dvorak: It's why make him do all that work of actually
1:45:26
walking in?
1:45:27
Adam Curry: Yes. $25 million.
1:45:30
John C Dvorak: Once they get in, you fly him around. And from
1:45:33
that point, now it's too much work. Just fly him straight to
1:45:36
sue city.
1:45:38
Adam Curry: Right. And that's a Florida company. So there's your
1:45:40
your great governor in Florida.
1:45:42
John C Dvorak: Is it a Geo Group, that private prison
1:45:44
operation?
1:45:47
Adam Curry: Let me see what else they do. Oh, that's a good
1:45:51
question. I don't know if that's what they do. Geo Group. I'm not
1:46:02
sure. I'm not sure. I can tell you Okay, environmental later.
1:46:06
Yeah. But it's it's all it's all a joke.
1:46:11
John C Dvorak: Kiss. It is. It's a joke. And people don't
1:46:14
appreciate that we develop these theses and
1:46:18
Unknown: then come bring it forward.
1:46:20
John C Dvorak: Nobody else is doing this. No. Oh. And then
1:46:25
we're condemned. Now we're condemned because you don't like
1:46:29
Jews. Oh, you like juice? Oh, you don't like like juice? What
1:46:33
do we don't like or dislike juice? And do we like people?
1:46:37
Alright,
1:46:37
Adam Curry: so here's another thesis we had which I believe is
1:46:40
coming true. The Taylor Swift up now we call the Satanist up
1:46:46
well, no, but we called it the it was the AI. All of that we
1:46:51
were flooded with AI we were we were given the message that you
1:46:55
know, we can make AI can do anything. Look at Taylor Swift
1:46:58
is doing porn. It's all AI. And what was the thesis we developed
1:47:03
that this will be used? Probably when someone does something
1:47:09
wrong. They'll just say I was AI.
1:47:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course. That's what you do. That's what
1:47:14
I would do. Let's go to Baltimore
1:47:16
Adam Curry: being audio clips circulating in Pikesville has
1:47:18
many parents concerns.
1:47:20
Unknown: So the recording contains racist and anti semitic
1:47:22
comments allegedly made by the principal of Pikesville High
1:47:26
School but there are a lot of concerns about the validity of
1:47:28
the audio. And if it could be faked, that'd be a matter of two
1:47:31
news is Carol Burnett joins us live from Pikeville this
1:47:34
morning. So Kara, a lot of unanswered questions with the
1:47:36
story. What do we know so far?
1:47:38
Yeah, absolutely. A lot of unanswered questions for sure.
1:47:42
Now, we do know that a lot of parents are outraged. But the
1:47:45
questions remain. Is it real? Well, we have yet to
1:47:49
authenticate the clip. So we will not be airing the audio but
1:47:52
speculation may be aI generated to sound exactly like principal
1:47:58
Eric eyes words. Now we also spoke with a UMBC cybersecurity
1:48:02
professor who says AI generated clips are on the rise
1:48:06
you have to do is take a deep breath
1:48:08
and stop and think and do some due diligence. Let the experts
1:48:13
look at this recording and see is this a real recording? Was
1:48:17
this generated by someone? Some type of technology technical
1:48:20
tool? Okay,
1:48:21
Adam Curry: so they won't play the audio because it hasn't been
1:48:25
authenticated. But we are the no agenda podcast. So I'm going to
1:48:28
play the audio of this Pikesville High School principal
1:48:33
in Baltimore. And I want the troll room to pay attention. I
1:48:37
want to take a little tally. What do we think? Is this real?
1:48:41
Or is this AI generated? Here we go. You know,
1:48:44
Unknown: I seriously don't understand why I have to
1:48:47
constantly put up with these dumbasses here every day.
1:48:52
Between these ungrateful black kids who can't test their way
1:48:55
out of a paper bag, or these teachers who don't get it, how
1:48:58
hard is it to get the students to meet their grade level
1:49:00
expectations? Lawrence and Rabanal should have never been
1:49:04
hired. Don't let me get started on TJ I'm going to drag his
1:49:09
black ass out here one way or another. I'm gonna get something
1:49:13
to stick.
1:49:15
I'm just so sick of the inadequacies of these people.
1:49:20
And if I have to get one more complaint from one more Jew in
1:49:22
this community,
1:49:23
Adam Curry: I'm gonna die. Alright, so he's very
1:49:28
polarizing. He calls out blacks and he calls out the Jews for
1:49:32
complaining. What do you think John real or AI?
1:49:38
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, I didn't notice the I was just I
1:49:42
never heard the guy's voice is his real voice. It just if I was
1:49:48
presented that out of the blue, I would say it was really just
1:49:50
some guided back room grousing. In this I was shown otherwise by
1:49:57
some sort of a sonogram not what not to say sonogram but that's
1:50:01
sonar but a voice gram is one of those. Somebody could show me
1:50:06
that powers AI. So I'd vote yes, it was real.
1:50:10
Adam Curry: I think it's real as well. Now there were these
1:50:13
annoying drops with that was an edit of this, I guess
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: we can assume that the that it was cut down to
1:50:24
the pauses were taken out, we can assume that because we do
1:50:27
that and I'm
1:50:27
Adam Curry: informed that Pikesville is on the Jewish side
1:50:30
of town, predominantly Jewish side of town. So that kind of
1:50:34
adds so
1:50:35
John C Dvorak: you can see he's complaining about your Yeah,
1:50:38
Adam Curry: I'm saying the Jews are complaining, complaining,
1:50:41
John C Dvorak: but guess what? Oh, don't
1:50:44
Adam Curry: go there. Don't say it. Don't say it. Yeah, I think
1:50:50
it's real. And I think this is our first in the wild use of AI
1:50:56
to cover up a boo boo but yeah, I guess I guess to cover up a
1:51:02
boo boo. And say, No, man. Yeah. Oh, it's
1:51:06
John C Dvorak: a hot mic.
1:51:07
Adam Curry: It sounds like you know, someone under their coat
1:51:10
recording it on their smartphone or something. Yeah,
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: I would buy it. Unless I was shown otherwise by
1:51:18
an expert. And there are experts out there. And those guys by the
1:51:21
way, if you have kids, you want to go through life and you don't
1:51:25
want to have to really work your ass off. Get into discovering,
1:51:30
you know, the technology of finding problems with AI. I
1:51:35
mean, just as a countermeasure, that is a lifetime the debt at
1:51:39
least from this point the way I see it was a lifetime job.
1:51:42
Finding fake photos finding AI art findings actually found a
1:51:47
article I have an AI clip.
1:51:49
Adam Curry: Well, I'm gonna lead you into that it was an article
1:51:54
from a science, the like this. l pace. Excessive use of words
1:52:04
like commendable and meticulous suggests chat GPT has been used
1:52:10
in 1000s of scientific studies. Well, I can believe this, a
1:52:15
London librarian has analyzed millions of articles in search
1:52:18
of uncommon terms used by artificial intelligence
1:52:21
programs. And so the librarian Andrew gray made a very
1:52:26
surprising discovery analyze 5 million scientific studies
1:52:30
published last year and detected a sudden rise in the use of
1:52:35
certain words such as nice meticulously up 130 7% intricate
1:52:41
commendable and meticulous. I think he's onto something here.
1:52:48
John C Dvorak: I agree. He's totally onto something. Isn't
1:52:52
that interesting? Yeah, I think this is the kind of then this is
1:52:56
the future.
1:52:59
Adam Curry: Kids get into it. There you go. That now there's a
1:53:02
librarian we can we can respect doing some work by which
1:53:07
libraries
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: actually are very respectful. Yeah,
1:53:10
Adam Curry: but you should you should talk to the women here
1:53:12
about the librarian and Fredericksburg school.
1:53:17
John C Dvorak: What she said except for
1:53:18
Adam Curry: her, just adjust her or him I even over to her I
1:53:21
don't even know Okay,
1:53:22
John C Dvorak: here we go. This is what Jennifer did. This is
1:53:24
the AI scandal from a couple of weeks ago.
1:53:28
Adam Curry: What Jennifer did here we go
1:53:29
Unknown: to new Netflix True Crime documentary what Jennifer
1:53:32
did tell us the story of a young Canadian woman involved in a
1:53:35
2010 murder for hire scheme targeting her parents. It was a
1:53:39
situation that I could never have imagined. There's been some
1:53:44
criticism not because the movie is overly grisly or anything but
1:53:47
because people suspect the filmmakers use generative AI in
1:53:51
the dark. That's just one of a handful of stories about AI in
1:53:54
movie making that popped up this week here with us to break them
1:53:57
all down is Mrs. Chloe Veltman. Hey, Chloe. Hi. Demetri what
1:54:02
Jennifer did allegedly use AI and why are people so mad about
1:54:06
it? Well,
1:54:07
social media has gone bonkers about what AI generated or
1:54:12
manipulated photographs of the young woman at the center of the
1:54:15
film Jennifer pan. She is currently serving a life
1:54:18
sentence for a kill for hire attack that killed her mother
1:54:21
and severely injured her father. So the images appeared around
1:54:25
the half hour mark in the movie when a high school friend named
1:54:28
Ian describes pan's personality, Jennifer,
1:54:31
you know, was bubbly, happy, confident, and very genuine. His
1:54:35
words were accompanied by series of images showing a young and a
1:54:38
Boolean pattern. But if you look closely, there are these weird
1:54:41
glitches for instance, fingers they're all mangled. And human
1:54:46
hands can be a sign that an image has been manipulated
1:54:48
because they're really tricky to generate and edit. So people
1:54:52
calling the alleged image manipulation disgraceful on
1:54:55
social media. To quote one Reddit user, it devalues and
1:54:59
betray The whole idea of true crime not to mention mocking the
1:55:02
victims by distorting the facts. What have we heard from Netflix
1:55:06
and the filmmakers? Well, NPR reached out to Netflix for
1:55:09
comments and they didn't want to talk about it. But the film's
1:55:11
executive producer Jeremy Grimaldi denied the use of AI in
1:55:15
an interview he gave her the Toronto Star published on
1:55:18
Friday.
1:55:21
John C Dvorak: Okay, they claimed it was Photoshop, and it
1:55:24
was just writing, you know, beef up in him. No, you can tell.
1:55:28
Any, you can tell, I can tell almost I'd say 99% of the people
1:55:33
that produce this show can tell an AI image. Not not all of
1:55:39
them, but you can tell the ones that are typically screwed up
1:55:43
and you have somebody's hand she's doing a piece sign. And
1:55:46
she's got like, you know, just a mangled hand it looks like
1:55:51
something that went through a meat grinder. It's just It was
1:55:55
obviously AI and it's nothing if Photoshop Creek Photoshop
1:55:58
doesn't create mangling or cross-eyed or big giant boobs,
1:56:04
like you know, typical on some of these AI generated pictures.
1:56:09
Yeah, it was AI and so they just didn't want to admit it because
1:56:12
it was in a slopped it together the way I said it, because
1:56:15
anyone with a with a keen eye would spot these images as such
1:56:19
Adam Curry: an outrage mama true fake
1:56:23
John C Dvorak: outrage, but it's it's getting into everything
1:56:28
this?
1:56:29
Adam Curry: No, it's everybody's heads are twisted. You know, the
1:56:33
title. What Jennifer did made me makes me think of, we're talking
1:56:37
about the last show about Jennifer Aniston. People calling
1:56:40
her Jennifer Madison like every every celebrity actress is now a
1:56:44
dude on online. And I was at church this morning and someone
1:56:50
came up to me and said, Oh, you need to tell John about
1:56:53
Victoria's Secret. It's called Victoria's Secret for a reason
1:56:59
they're all dudes just so you know.
1:57:02
Unknown: All dudes
1:57:06
Adam Curry: Hey, some very sad news for the no agenda hams. We
1:57:10
still have a lot of them. We get a lot of 70 threes. He's got a
1:57:14
lot of 70 threes. John and I are hams. I'm keto five Alpha.
1:57:18
Charlie, Charlie. John, what's your callsign
1:57:21
John C Dvorak: KJ six liquid natural gas. And
1:57:26
Adam Curry: I am on the VAR AC so you can find me there. I'm
1:57:28
beaconing every 15 minutes. I will continue to do that. Here's
1:57:33
the sad news. MF j is ceasing production. You further MFJ
1:57:39
enterprises.
1:57:40
John C Dvorak: No,
1:57:40
Adam Curry: this is the guy who came up with must be 1000
1:57:45
designs for Antanas and Morse code keys MF J I mean that they
1:57:53
and he would get college students to put them together.
1:57:58
After 52 years. They're closing shop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's
1:58:05
because you know, which includes high gain Cushcraft antennas
1:58:10
Meraj vetronics, high gain Amera Tron. And these these are
1:58:15
marquee names. That's all gone
1:58:19
Unknown: when the apocalypse comes where the guys who are
1:58:22
going to save the world, right?
1:58:26
Adam Curry: It is that's it's an institution. It's like Bob Heil,
1:58:28
dying. You know, it's an institution. So the closing that
1:58:32
up, everyone's into the new stuff. What does that? Ah, it's
1:58:37
the mesh stuff called MeSH tastic. If you heard of this,
1:58:42
John C Dvorak: it was Yeah, I have. There's some couple of
1:58:44
things like that. There's a screwy ideas floating around.
1:58:48
Well, there are a lot of people using them illegal. I don't
1:58:51
know.
1:58:53
Adam Curry: Hey, you don't need a ham license. Mesh tasks. You
1:58:56
know, a lot of people are really into mesh tastic. And so it's
1:59:01
basically small little radios. And then you can create a mesh
1:59:05
network amongst your buddies. While you're all greasing up
1:59:08
your AR fifteens. You can send text messages, I think I'm fine
1:59:15
with my, with my 20 meter rig, hooked up to a wire seems to be
1:59:21
doing just fine. I reach all over the country. With that 12
1:59:25
Watts, I'm fine with that.
1:59:29
John C Dvorak: So I ran into a deal a deal. Time and it was
1:59:35
just a fluke. And I don't think you can find this page if you
1:59:38
want it to. But I am going to put it in the newsletter because
1:59:42
people are bailing out from the newsletter because there's
1:59:44
nothing valuable in there. I don't know this should be
1:59:47
output. I'm not going to tell you the link or where it even
1:59:49
comes from. But I'm gonna put it in the newsletter. So I ran and
1:59:55
I got one of these things. I found what do you find? A reef
2:00:00
rubbished knuck, five from Intel, which is twice as fast as
2:00:08
the baling said I have. And I use a nut for to do the podcast
2:00:13
and it happens to be a nuk. Five. It's the older ones that I
2:00:18
think they're eight years this was
2:00:19
Adam Curry: what's the what's the guts, what's the power?
2:00:21
What's the what's the frequency? It's
2:00:24
John C Dvorak: got a, I think it's an i Five of some sort. And
2:00:29
it was,
2:00:31
Adam Curry: well run what's my Beelink? Because I have is the
2:00:34
John C Dvorak: guy I guarantee as a seller and I
2:00:36
Adam Curry: run the I run the entire production on a Beelink
2:00:39
here. Yeah, no.
2:00:40
John C Dvorak: So you have this amazing product for 168 or $200.
2:00:44
You get that Beelink does everything. This nut five is
2:00:47
twice as fast as refurbished, but it's twice as fast. It's got
2:00:52
more features, and 68 bucks.
2:00:57
Adam Curry: does and does that include windows
2:01:00
John C Dvorak: and it includes windows. Wow. So you have a
2:01:05
fresh version of Windows 68 bucks is twice as fast as your
2:01:10
Beelink it's dynamite product. And I stumbled on it by
2:01:14
accident. And I said well this is ridiculous. I bought one got
2:01:19
it. It's a little truck. It'd be I mean it fit this how much much
2:01:24
onboard RAM it's a little light in the loafers it's got four
2:01:31
gigs, four gigs gigs of RAM and 124
2:01:35
Adam Curry: gigs of ram you need at least eight to to run
2:01:37
anything you can
2:01:38
John C Dvorak: buy you can go buy a little eight for nothing.
2:01:41
This is
2:01:41
Adam Curry: old. Yeah, but then but then that's not stills.
2:01:45
Okay, all
2:01:45
John C Dvorak: right. Maybe it's gonna cost you 80 bucks total
2:01:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, but no wonder your spreadsheet freezes and so
2:01:51
no,
2:01:51
John C Dvorak: we're not using it now. Oh, I my little neck is
2:01:55
loaded to the gills with
2:01:57
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me what's your what just knock god I'm
2:02:01
John C Dvorak: just it's got 16 gigs plus 256 SSD. said Yeah,
2:02:08
which is fine for different podcasting. But I'm just saying
2:02:12
68 bucks
2:02:16
Adam Curry: Wow, everybody. Aren't you glad you're listening
2:02:18
to the best podcast in the universe? And just
2:02:20
John C Dvorak: saying yeah, people want to subscribe to the
2:02:22
newsletter then get the link there. I'm not going to talk
2:02:25
about as any bleed
2:02:26
Adam Curry: the worst idea since me reading the legislation.
2:02:32
John C Dvorak: People love this information they want to know
2:02:35
about the gods just what we do. We got and check things out. I
2:02:39
Adam Curry: got a lot of feedback on the east Safety
2:02:44
Commissioner in in the UK. Oh, the spook? Yeah. Here's one
2:02:51
anonymous Adam and John. I prefer to say no, he got it. I
2:02:54
thought to send a note regarding John's clips from show 1654 on
2:02:57
the Australian E Safety Commissioner. The E Safety
2:03:00
Commission has been ticking along quietly in the background
2:03:03
for a number of years. By the way, this is coming to America.
2:03:06
There's gonna be a safety because you know to protect the
2:03:08
juice, don't worry, it's all coming. The Safety Commission
2:03:12
has been ticking long quiet in the background for a number of
2:03:14
years. It is a component of a government department whose
2:03:16
primary role has been dealing with email and phone scams as
2:03:19
well as managing legitimate telemarketing company practices
2:03:23
and advertising legislation. It's quite the organization
2:03:26
there. Something not mentioned in your discussion is that our E
2:03:30
Safety Commissioner is also a former Twitter employee moving
2:03:34
straight from Twitter to government in 2016. So we
2:03:38
thought that she was she came from Microsoft, but apparently,
2:03:41
she was also at Twitter. In the old Twitter. The primary focus
2:03:45
of the current discussion in the country is whether certain clips
2:03:48
can be shared online. In this case, specifically, footage of
2:03:53
the knife attack on an Assyrian Orthodox priest in Sydney while
2:03:57
he was holding a service, which I think happened with a knife
2:04:00
sheathed, and so there's no blood drawn. The community
2:04:04
became very agitated after the attack and small scale public
2:04:08
disturbances occurred, which the police and government blamed on
2:04:11
the distribution of this clip on x. Oh, uh huh. It's unclear
2:04:17
exactly how far the government's power extends. In this case,
2:04:21
though, we're, though they're attempting to push it by
2:04:23
ordering the content removed. In a strange twist. They've even
2:04:27
directed people in other countries to remove the clip
2:04:31
from their ex page, for instance, Canada. This has led
2:04:35
to the conversation in the clips you played regarding clarifying
2:04:38
legislation. Historically, the government has had limited
2:04:41
success with multiple nationals abiding by these directives. As
2:04:45
a result, most legislation targets ISPs to do the heavy
2:04:49
lifting example of this, including the banning of Zero
2:04:52
Hedge and HN in the, in the aftermath of the Christchurch
2:04:58
shooting, which of course was in New Zealand. Elon Musk has been
2:05:01
the public target as he has been in vocal opposition, though this
2:05:05
sort of thing isn't a new story here. Last note. John, you've
2:05:09
been mispronouncing the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese his
2:05:13
name it's Albin. Easy. Albanese Albanese. Yeah. Albin.
2:05:18
John C Dvorak: What have I been saying? Album minis yes album
2:05:21
easy Albanese. Yes.
2:05:23
Adam Curry: Keep up the good fight. Thank you for your
2:05:24
courage.
2:05:25
John C Dvorak: That's sorry. Well, I should pronounce his
2:05:27
real name. Elmer Fudd. Just take a look at his picture and tell
2:05:31
me I'm wrong. Elmer Fudd there's
2:05:35
Adam Curry: been a lot of information coming out about our
2:05:37
new NPR CEO, Katherine Meyer,
2:05:41
John C Dvorak: another one. Yes. She
2:05:44
Adam Curry: was apparently quite involved in a number of color
2:05:47
revolutions around the time of the Middle East and North
2:05:50
African color revolutions. Go figure isn't that interesting?
2:05:56
March of 2011. Mar worked for the National Democratic
2:05:59
Institute, a government funded NGO with deep connections to US
2:06:03
intelligence this from the City Journal. I think they're pretty
2:06:07
good actually, the City Journal and the Democratic Party's
2:06:10
foreign policy machine. The organization was set up to do
2:06:12
independently what CIA had done covertly worldwide says,
2:06:16
national security analyst Jay Michael Waller. So she is
2:06:21
definitely this agent of change. She was part of a revolutionary
2:06:25
Vanguard movement at NDI. And my buddy Dave Jones, over at
2:06:33
podcasting 2.0 He found an interview that she did, which I
2:06:37
think is, this was done in January, this was probably part
2:06:43
of her audition process, because it's with Reed Hoffman on Reid
2:06:48
Hoffman's podcast, you know what I mean? It's like, hey, ya gotta
2:06:54
go on, read his podcast. And if you make it there, if you pass
2:06:58
the muster there, we can bring you in. So you want to hear
2:07:01
these clips. But
2:07:02
John C Dvorak: absolutely, he or she is
2:07:04
Unknown: I think the internet has been catastrophic for trust.
2:07:07
But perhaps not for all of the reasons we might think, when I
2:07:10
say catastrophic, I think that what has happened is not that
2:07:15
the internet has destroyed trust, it has, the internet has
2:07:18
surfaced fissures within systems and, and allowed them to grow
2:07:25
and grow publicly at an exponential rate. And so when,
2:07:30
for example, we think about trust in institutions, which is
2:07:33
something that I'm very interested in, and that comes to
2:07:36
sort of institutional governance, institutions fit for
2:07:39
purpose. And I mean, institutions in the abstract and
2:07:41
in the literal sense. So the institution of universal
2:07:44
suffrage is an institution, although doesn't have like a
2:07:46
brand name. The issues that we've seen there is that many of
2:07:52
these institutions were built around a sort of homogenous
2:07:58
population that they were serving, they were not terribly
2:08:02
responsive, both in terms of accountability to that
2:08:07
population. And then when we started to see increasingly
2:08:09
heterogeneous populations, due to immigration, diversification,
2:08:15
civil rights, movement, etc, etc, we started to cetera, how
2:08:19
those, those institutions where we're not actually sort of fit
2:08:23
for purpose. What the Internet has done is it has exposed those
2:08:28
fissures in ways that are related to both. We now
2:08:33
interface with all sorts of technologies, platforms and
2:08:35
services that are hyper responsive to our needs in and
2:08:39
have created an anticipation of a much more frictionless, much
2:08:45
more productive set of processes, services, outcomes,
2:08:50
SLA functional human SLAs, human
2:08:53
Adam Curry: SLAs John, this is a this is some the newest gobbly
2:08:58
gook. SLA is some service level agreement. So it's now human
2:09:02
service level agreements. She's nuts.
2:09:08
John C Dvorak: I was I was I would agree that she's nuts
2:09:11
100% 100%. And unbelievable.
2:09:16
Adam Curry: What she's really saying is podcasts ruined our
2:09:18
business. That's what I hear saying. So you know, I
2:09:22
John C Dvorak: can see you hearing that. Maybe she's saying
2:09:25
it because she's tried and tried and tried. I mean, the NPO or
2:09:28
not she, but NPR has tried to do podcasting and it's just like,
2:09:32
basically NPR. You know, repurposed here's crappy.
2:09:37
Adam Curry: Here's what happened. You know, they went in
2:09:39
for all you know, let's do black queer hosts doing a hip hop
2:09:44
show. What they, what they what they miss over there is that the
2:09:49
network isn't like you can't monetize the network is like,
2:09:52
your podcast app is now your podcast network. You subscribe
2:09:56
to the shows you want to hear. And you play them when you want
2:09:59
to Hear him. We don't need this. This you know, the shield for
2:10:06
whatever intelligence or anybody for that matter. You don't need
2:10:09
an NPR to try and create a lineup that's going to be
2:10:13
perfect for you. Nobody cares anymore. It's like just like
2:10:16
Disney. No. Dead. Exactly. lineups are dead. Oh, that's a
2:10:22
good that's a good way of putting it lineups are dead.
2:10:25
people subscribe to Netflix to binge the new series and then
2:10:29
they quit their subscription.
2:10:33
John C Dvorak: In fact there was a one of the I was reading in
2:10:35
one of the forum's somebody's going on bitching and moaning
2:10:39
and saying you know what I do? I was subscribed to Netflix and
2:10:43
then then binge watch everything. I want to watch it
2:10:45
and I was canceling subscription. Now subscribe
2:10:48
subscribed to Hulu, and then I'll watch what you know is
2:10:50
there, and I'll binge watch and then on subscribing, so you're
2:10:54
only paying $19 A month ever.
2:10:57
Adam Curry: That's right. That's why the only way forward, the
2:11:01
only way forward is value for value where you pay for the
2:11:07
program that you want to hear at the value you ascribe to it. It
2:11:14
would be a much better argument. If our donations were craps. It
2:11:20
would be a much better argument that way. But But that's really
2:11:23
where it's going. There's there's there's no other way
2:11:26
Pete the people have the power. And you're exactly right. So
2:11:30
they they people have 20 bucks a month for their media on the
2:11:35
streaming because it's really not worth much more than that.
2:11:37
And they just hop around. Like okay, I'll get Hulu 20 bucks
2:11:41
canceled next month is something else next month is something
2:11:44
else. Yeah, and
2:11:45
John C Dvorak: you can catch up with everything. If you have the
2:11:48
wherewithal, me Paramount
2:11:50
Adam Curry: is about to go out of business. I
2:11:53
John C Dvorak: mean, they're trying to get rid of it. Larry
2:11:55
Adam Curry: Ellison's kid is going to buy up some scrap metal
2:11:58
which will be known formerly known as paramount. I wouldn't
2:12:02
even think that what he's buying is any good. Have you been
2:12:04
following that? The Paramount saga,
2:12:06
John C Dvorak: I've been following it in the trades a
2:12:08
bit. But I
2:12:11
Adam Curry: mean, that thing basically just collapsed. After
2:12:15
summoner red red stones daughter took over, I don't know what
2:12:19
John C Dvorak: she hates the I think she hated the old man. And
2:12:23
if you ever I met him once, and I can see how that can be. He
2:12:28
seems to be that kind of guy that would instill hate. And,
2:12:33
and she wants to read everything. She wants to destroy
2:12:36
everything that he built up. He's very proud of his
2:12:41
accomplishment. accomplishments.
2:12:44
Adam Curry: You want to really want to hear the second clip
2:12:45
from Katherine Mar. Was it too much to handle?
2:12:48
John C Dvorak: I can do without unless it unless there's
2:12:50
something in there. So Jim, I
2:12:52
Adam Curry: really don't remember. I'm not going to risk
2:12:54
it. I'm not going to risk it.
2:12:56
John C Dvorak: It does bring me to the since it was talking
2:12:58
about lack of trust. It brings me to an I don't know why this
2:13:02
is. But it brings you to a three by three. Oh, now it's done.
2:13:06
Three by three.
2:13:08
Adam Curry: Everybody's fast. Fast on ABC, CBS. Thank you for
2:13:18
recognizing my my speed. That's right. We got the top three
2:13:21
networks. That was pretty new issues. Thank you. And here, we
2:13:24
compare all timing.
2:13:25
John C Dvorak: All right. So timing. So the point is, is that
2:13:28
we talked about this? Probably 100 years ago, 100 years? Yeah,
2:13:33
100 years ago. And this was actually the three by three for
2:13:36
the last show, which I didn't run and then they kept hot. They
2:13:40
kept harping on it on the on these networks. And this is the
2:13:44
like the revelation that the guy who runs pecker or whatever is
2:13:50
National Enquirer,
2:13:51
Adam Curry: women, can I just say it's very possible that the
2:13:55
three by three is driving people away, I'm just saying as
2:14:00
possible.
2:14:04
John C Dvorak: I'd never like to three by three.
2:14:09
Adam Curry: All right. So this
2:14:12
John C Dvorak: but the fact that that they keep the network's
2:14:16
keep harping on this as though the public really wants to know
2:14:18
this. In the end, the thinking is, look, there's this guy who
2:14:23
bought off all these stories. And then it by the way, I had
2:14:28
this happen to me. If anyone who wants to talk about you know, a
2:14:32
boy, yeah, they bought you
2:14:34
Adam Curry: paid off a porn star? No,
2:14:37
John C Dvorak: I wrote a story once. Oh, and I think the
2:14:39
magazine was called focus and it was KQED was a local
2:14:42
publication. They hired me to write an article on the top 10
2:14:46
lists and the top 10 That and the top 10 lists and the top 10
2:14:48
that in Silicon Valley. Some years ago, I was okay. So I was
2:14:53
paying. They gave me the money. They never published the story.
2:14:56
And I'll tell you why they didn't publish the story. I had
2:14:58
all these different it wasn't like it was elaborately written
2:15:02
or anything that you know, this guy can't write it just, we're
2:15:04
gonna know that I got paid for the story. And then they killed
2:15:08
it. Because I follow a Yellowlees. Definitely the top
2:15:11
three restaurants I think was mostly top stories, top three
2:15:14
restaurants Silicon Valley and its top three carwashes, the top
2:15:18
three, top three, the
2:15:21
Adam Curry: top three, what was the number one carwash in
2:15:24
Silicon Valley? I
2:15:25
John C Dvorak: don't remember this was like 10 years ago or
2:15:27
longer. But here's the kicker, that I had the top three
2:15:32
charities of Silicon Valley, one blank to blank, three blank. And
2:15:43
that was the end of that story. So this was not an unusual thing
2:15:48
to kill stories. Yeah. So
2:15:50
Adam Curry: So explain, briefly catch and kill,
2:15:54
John C Dvorak: catch and kill or whatever it's called. That is
2:15:56
start with the ABC today
2:15:58
Unknown: is Donald Trump listened intently the former
2:16:00
publisher of the National Enquirer for the first time
2:16:03
laying out the extraordinary relationship between candidate
2:16:06
Trump and the sorted supermarket tabloid David pecker, grinning
2:16:10
widely as he pointed out Trump in the courtroom, the former
2:16:12
president smirking back, the two men had been friends for years.
2:16:16
Becker told the jury he was convinced women would come
2:16:19
forward with salacious stories to sell because Trump was the
2:16:22
most eligible bachelor and dated the most beautiful women Trump
2:16:26
perking up at that description and then visibly perturbed
2:16:28
versing his lips and crossing his arms as pecker started to
2:16:31
detail. One example the story of former Playboy model Karen
2:16:34
McDougal, who claims to have had a year long affair with Trump
2:16:37
which he denies. Finally, pecker testified he and Trump got on
2:16:40
the phone. He said he told Trump to buy the rights to McDougal
2:16:44
story. Trump's response I don't buy stories. Anytime you do
2:16:47
anything like this, it always gets out. Ultimately, peckers
2:16:51
company paid Karen McDougal $150,000 for the rights to her
2:16:55
story but never published it all to protect Trump. before today's
2:16:59
testimony, prosecutors accused Trump of repeatedly violating
2:17:02
the judge's gag order, attacking witnesses even potential jurors.
2:17:07
Defense attorneys insisted Trump is complying but the judge
2:17:10
interjected you're losing credibility. There was no
2:17:13
immediate ruling from the judge. But David prosecutors said it's
2:17:17
almost as if Trump is trying to force the judge to throw him in
2:17:21
jail. And tonight, sources told ABC News the Secret Service is
2:17:26
actually preparing for that possibility. It's
2:17:28
Adam Curry: really unbelievable how our national press is
2:17:32
obsessed with with porn farts. I mean, it's just it's amazing.
2:17:41
These people are sick.
2:17:43
John C Dvorak: I don't gonna argue that there we go the NBC
2:17:46
tonight
2:17:47
Unknown: Mr. Trump's longtime friend David packer, the former
2:17:50
publisher of the National Enquirer offering the jury a
2:17:53
rare glimpse into the underworld of tabloid tactics. The day
2:17:57
began with the judge taking the defense team to task over Mr.
2:18:01
Trump's posts on social media, targeting Cohen and stormy
2:18:05
Daniels, the state seeking to hold Mr. Trump in criminal
2:18:09
contempt for violating the judge's gag order that bars him
2:18:12
from attacking trial witnesses
2:18:14
so they can talk about me they can say whatever they want, they
2:18:17
can lie. But I'm not allowed to say.
2:18:22
In court the defense arguing Mr. Trump should be permitted to
2:18:26
respond to political attacks, and the gag order should not
2:18:29
cover repose of someone else. The judge didn't rule today, but
2:18:33
seemed exasperated tellingly, defense attorney Todd blanch,
2:18:37
you are losing all credibility with the court. minutes later
2:18:40
during a break Mr. Trump back on truth social, falsely writing
2:18:45
the judge had taken away his right to free speech. This is a
2:18:48
kangaroo court.
2:18:50
John C Dvorak: Yo, maybe I'm mostly writing. Maybe I was
2:18:53
falsely writing but he didn't know he wrote it. He didn't
2:18:56
falsely write. Maybe
2:18:57
Adam Curry: I'm seeing this the wrong way. Maybe this is really
2:19:01
just the part of trying to get Middle America to vote for
2:19:04
Trump. They really want him in like wow, this guy is just as
2:19:07
broken as we are over here. Yeah, you know, he just has
2:19:11
bigger brokenness. I'm telling you, they want him in so bad.
2:19:15
Everyone knows that all these things will go to appeal.
2:19:18
They're not going to be thrown in jail before the elections.
2:19:21
Everyone knows this. This is this is this is just this is
2:19:24
just more get him in so we can collapse everything on his
2:19:28
watch.
2:19:32
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not gonna argue it. I mean, it's
2:19:36
kind of the point we've been making I think for some time.
2:19:39
Adam Curry: Yeah. So so that they spend all this time on
2:19:42
these stories. Oh, boy.
2:19:46
John C Dvorak: Alright, so let's go to the final solution.
2:19:50
Unknown: CBS former President Trump aired his frustration with
2:19:53
being in court today. situation after listening to former
2:19:59
National Enquirer Our publisher David pecker, a man he's known
2:20:02
for over three decades and even
2:20:04
Adam Curry: the fact of the guy's name is pecker. Everybody
2:20:06
knows the joke. Everybody's in on it. Hey, Martha
2:20:13
Unknown: Becker explained the strategy he testified they
2:20:16
agreed upon ahead of the 2016 election. The paper would bury
2:20:20
any negative news about Trump while promoting fake stories
2:20:23
about his political opponents, including senators Ted Cruz and
2:20:27
Marco Rubio. Packer testified the plan was concocted at Trump
2:20:31
Tower in 2015. Trump and former fixer Michael Cohen allegedly
2:20:35
asked him how we could help the campaign. He told them I would
2:20:39
be your eyes and ears explaining the practice of catch and kill
2:20:43
the Enquirer would buy the rights to any damaging story
2:20:46
about Trump and never publish it. Prosecutors say that plan
2:20:50
was the origin of Cohen's $130,000 payment to former adult
2:20:54
film star stormy Daniels to keep her quiet.
2:20:57
Adam Curry: Did you say film store do you think he said film
2:20:59
store instead of star day that
2:21:01
Unknown: plan was the origin of Cohen's $130,000 payment to
2:21:05
former adult film star stormy Daniels to keep store about an
2:21:10
alleged sexual encounter with Trump who denies it all. One
2:21:14
example of catch and kill discussed in court today involve
2:21:17
the Trump building doorman, who was selling what turned out to
2:21:20
be a fake story about Trump fathering a son pecker told the
2:21:23
jury today he bought the story because of the potential
2:21:26
embarrassment it would have to the campaign and Mr. Trump in
2:21:30
the gag order here in the prosecution argued that Trump
2:21:33
should be held in contempt for all of his scathing commentary
2:21:36
about this case, Trump's lawyer Todd Lance said his clients
2:21:39
being careful with his words to that the judge said that's just
2:21:43
not credible.
2:21:45
Adam Curry: I have an answer here to your question. One of
2:21:50
our producers sent this from the BBC how they know about Trump's
2:21:54
facial expressions in the courtroom.
2:21:59
John C Dvorak: Yes, I was, was a critical regarding Rachel Maddow
2:22:04
somehow seeing his face when she's got he's got his back to
2:22:07
her
2:22:08
Unknown: is you can't have your descriptions of everybody's body
2:22:11
language and facial expressions and things that you can see from
2:22:13
inside the courthouse are absolutely gripping.
2:22:16
It's interesting, because I when I'm in the courtroom, I see him
2:22:19
from the back and from the side. And at one point, I was sitting
2:22:22
literally right behind him and could really like detect his
2:22:25
body language, but I can't see his face. When I'm in the
2:22:27
overflow room, I can see all the expressions he's making, because
2:22:29
there's a camera pointed right at him that they're feeding. And
2:22:32
so I've had both the views of his reading his body and sort of
2:22:36
his mood at the defense table, and also just being able to see
2:22:39
the expressions on his face.
2:22:40
Adam Curry: So they got a camera on his face in the overflow
2:22:43
room. That's how they do it.
2:22:46
John C Dvorak: Well, how does that jive with Rachael being so
2:22:49
happy to be in the courtroom herself?
2:22:52
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe she's lying. Could it be possible?
2:22:56
John C Dvorak: Rachel Maddow would be lying. Our
2:22:59
Adam Curry: constitutional lawyer Rob made 14 clips for me
2:23:03
of the of the discussion in the Supreme Court about immunity.
2:23:11
I'm going to move those to Thursday. Because it couldn't
2:23:16
away Can we play all of them? But some of them we've already
2:23:19
handled. I just liked the fact that we have a lawyer that does
2:23:22
stuff like that. But I could if you want to hear play the two
2:23:28
clips about presidential President pardoning himself.
2:23:36
John C Dvorak: Which was also Yeah, I would be interested in
2:23:38
that I can tolerate to those clips due to clips. Yes, we've
2:23:43
heard the Supreme Court toy they're very slow talking.
2:23:45
Adam Curry: Here's a Lido talking to Dre. Ben, I think is
2:23:48
the guy's name. And this is the first one about presidents
2:23:51
presidential pardoning himself. On the
2:23:54
Unknown: question of whether a president has the authority to
2:23:58
pardon himself, which came up earlier in the argument. What's
2:24:01
the answer to that question? I don't believe the Department of
2:24:03
Justice has taken a position. The only authority that I'm
2:24:06
aware of is a member of the Office of Legal Counsel wrote on
2:24:10
a memorandum that there is no self pardon authority. As far as
2:24:14
I know, that department has not addressed it further. And of
2:24:16
course, this Court had not addressed it either. Well, when
2:24:20
you address that question before us, are you speaking in your
2:24:23
capacity solely as a member of the special counsels team or or
2:24:28
are you speaking on behalf of the Justice Department, which
2:24:33
has special institutional responsibilities? I am speaking
2:24:38
on behalf of the Justice Department, we're representing
2:24:41
the United States. Right. How Don't you think we need to know
2:24:44
the answer to at least Yes, the Justice Department's position on
2:24:49
that issue in order to decide this case, because the President
2:24:53
has the authority to pardon himself before leaving office
2:24:58
and the DC circuit is right that there is no immunity from
2:25:03
prosecution, won't the the predictable result be that
2:25:06
presidents on the last couple of days of officers are going to
2:25:09
pardon themselves from anything that they might have been
2:25:12
conceivably charged with committing? I really doubt that
2:25:15
Justice Alito unit sort of presupposes a regime that we
2:25:18
have never had, except for President Nixon and as alleged
2:25:22
in the indictment here, presidents who are conscious of
2:25:25
having engaged in wrongdoing and seeking to shield themselves, I
2:25:28
think the political consequences of a president who asserted a
2:25:32
right of self pardon, that has never been recognized, that
2:25:35
seems to contradict a bedrock principle of our law, that no
2:25:38
person shall be the judge in their own case. Those are
2:25:42
adequate deterrence, I think, so that this kind of dystopian
2:25:46
regime is not going to evolve. Okay.
2:25:51
Adam Curry: Any comments before I go to Gorsuch on the same
2:25:53
issue? None.
2:25:55
Unknown: What would happen if presidents were under fear, fear
2:26:00
that their successors would criminally prosecute them for
2:26:04
their acts in office, whether it's whether they were engaged
2:26:07
in drone strike all the hypotheticals? It seems to me
2:26:12
like one of the incentives that might be created as for
2:26:15
presidents to try to pardon themselves. Do you have any
2:26:19
thoughts about that?
2:26:20
That is I didn't think of that until
2:26:24
Adam Curry: I forgot to mention, this is sour, who has the voice
2:26:29
of I don't know what this is. This has got to be a medical
2:26:32
issue. It's very, it's only 40 seconds is hard to listen to
2:26:36
this person that is,
2:26:38
Unknown: didn't think of that until you're on acid. That is
2:26:40
certainly one instead of that might be creative. What we think
2:26:43
is most important, we've never
2:26:44
answered whether President can do that. Happily, it's never
2:26:48
been presented to us. And
2:26:50
if if the doctrine of immunity remains in place, that's likely
2:26:53
to remain the case. For those very issues as Fitzgerald, I
2:26:57
think very powerfully emphasize, the real concern here is is
2:27:00
there going to be bold and fearless action? Is the
2:27:02
President going to have to make a controversial decision where
2:27:05
his political opponents are going to come after him? The
2:27:08
minute he leaves office? Is that going to unduly deter? Or is
2:27:11
that going to dampen the order of that President to do what our
2:27:15
constitutional structure demands of him or her, which is bold and
2:27:18
fearless action in the face of controversy?
2:27:20
And perhaps if he feels he has to he'll pardon himself? Every
2:27:24
every four years from now on?
2:27:28
Adam Curry: AI or not? Ai? That's a crazy voice
2:27:34
John C Dvorak: well, that's interesting stuff, man.
2:27:36
Adam Curry: Now, I mean, yes, I think it's interesting, but you
2:27:39
know, to a point you know, it's not about it's not about Gaza.
2:27:43
So who knows? We're not We're not hair on fire.
2:27:47
John C Dvorak: But I guess blink and just as a last go into the
2:27:50
Yeah, you
2:27:50
Adam Curry: have a went to China. Yeah, here's
2:27:53
John C Dvorak: what PBS had to say about
2:27:54
Adam Curry: it. Let me see where it what did you title this?
2:27:57
Lincoln Blinken makes sense. Meanwhile,
2:27:59
Unknown: another member of the Biden Cabinet Secretary of State
2:28:02
Antony Blinken warned Chinese President Xi Jinping today
2:28:06
against supporting Russia's war in Ukraine. The two men met in
2:28:10
Beijing, Blinken said he told xi that China must stop supplying
2:28:14
Russia with critical war material or the US will act did
2:28:20
not elaborate but he did acknowledge progress in other
2:28:23
areas. We are
2:28:24
committed to maintaining and strengthening the lines of
2:28:29
communication between us so that we avoid any miscommunications.
2:28:34
Any misperceptions? Any miscalculations and we are
2:28:37
committed to responsibly managing the relationship.
2:28:41
For his part, she said China and the US must seek common ground
2:28:46
rather than engage in what he called, quote, vicious
2:28:49
competition.
2:28:50
Adam Curry: I saw a video of GE waiting for Blinken to come in
2:28:54
and he was talking to his aides his aides and they Hot Mic hot
2:29:00
mic and I'm gonna give you the exact translation let me see
2:29:05
where is it here? It was something like is he here yet?
2:29:10
And then I was like NAS he has to leave in 45 minutes and Jesus
2:29:14
good get him out of here i It's all AI it's all AI it's all AI
2:29:21
except we're not AI and with that I'd like to say in the
2:29:23
morning to you the man who put the sea in call the cows say
2:29:26
hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John see tomorrow
2:29:32
John C Dvorak: morning to you Mr. Adam curry in the morning
2:29:34
all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air and subs
2:29:37
in the water the dames the Knights out there.
2:29:39
Adam Curry: Hello trolls interesting we had the last
2:29:48
Sunday show we had 18 147 Trolls we're up by eight trolls 1855
2:29:56
And by the way, these trolls have nice purple hair I like
2:30:00
exceeding your trolls Very good. You can become a troll, join
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them at troll room.io which is really fun to do if you have
2:30:09
time on Thursdays and Sundays, because unlike most of those
2:30:12
podcasts that are edited, and all the URLs and the arms are
2:30:17
taken out, and oh no, they left a long pause of silence, gotta
2:30:21
edit that out. Gotta make it exactly two hours. We, on the
2:30:25
other hand, are doing, we're doing a performance for you.
2:30:29
Neither, neither one of us knows what we're coming to the table
2:30:32
with. John sends me clips I don't look at, I look at the
2:30:35
titles and say, Okay, I clearly don't have to clip anything
2:30:38
about Blinken in China, because John's got it. But otherwise, we
2:30:43
put it together with the help of you, the producers who produce
2:30:46
this show time, talent and treasure, we'd love it when
2:30:49
you're in a deep state in the in the defense industrial base. And
2:30:53
you tell us that it's all about China. We love it when people we
2:30:57
have our constitutional lawyer making clips. So he sat there
2:31:02
and he listened to the most boring stuff in the universe.
2:31:06
And it was able to make clips. I mean, this is a beautiful,
2:31:08
beautiful thing. That's how you can return value to the show
2:31:12
because quite honestly, we're not like NPR, we don't have 25
2:31:15
people to work on radio lab. Radio lab. We don't have true
2:31:20
crime where we do AI falsifications now, it's just
2:31:24
two dudes, two microphones, a Beelink and Inuk. That's what
2:31:28
you got. And and, and that's why we're here. We love our artists
2:31:34
who always help with some fantastic value. By making
2:31:38
artwork that we can use again, something that you could not
2:31:42
afford, if if you wanted to contract artists to make artwork
2:31:46
for every single episode, which has been going on for 15 years,
2:31:50
this episodic art, so they do it out of returning value to the
2:31:54
show. And for that very reason. I want to thank Matt boy there I
2:31:59
think I got the pronunciation right. This was by far the this
2:32:03
for episode 1654 titled e safety. Which made sense of
2:32:08
course we talked about the E Safety Commissioner. This was
2:32:10
the tic toc logo draped in the American flag. It was it was
2:32:14
just
2:32:15
John C Dvorak: it was these ribs. It was turned into the
2:32:18
Adam Curry: but it looks like it's draped. It looks like it
2:32:21
was wrapped around the TIC tock logo, don't you think so? Okay,
2:32:24
you can do that. Yeah, I think I think it looks like it was
2:32:27
wrapped around the load. It's
2:32:28
John C Dvorak: just a dynamite piece.
2:32:30
Adam Curry: It was a great piece. Lots of people tried
2:32:33
other things like negative second. What else we have here
2:32:39
lots of Phoebe art appreciate the Phoebe art. You actually
2:32:42
we're we're kind of pushing for a weird piece, which was Trump's
2:32:49
lawyer with a gas mask with a green cloud of I guess fart gas
2:32:56
and Phoebe in the background.
2:32:59
John C Dvorak: thought no, I liked that piece of scaremongers
2:33:01
piece. I gotta wait Phoebe in the background that was the
2:33:04
funny part is the judge multiple
2:33:07
Adam Curry: Phoebe pieces of art comics through blogger you used
2:33:10
his piece for the newsletter is I did Yes. And he was very upset
2:33:16
that you didn't credit him with that. So I'm doing
2:33:18
John C Dvorak: it where they credited me these people. You
2:33:21
know, I think I never credited it with art with the art
2:33:25
Adam Curry: I never I think that art tank donations. I think
2:33:28
that's what did it.
2:33:30
John C Dvorak: Oh could be could be I know like we got a lot of
2:33:32
complaints about Phoebe.
2:33:34
Adam Curry: Well, I got pluses and minuses. Some
2:33:38
John C Dvorak: some PHQ B Phoebe that killed the show.
2:33:40
Adam Curry: There you go. For some people said oh, no, it
2:33:43
sounded great. She's awesome. Plus two for Phoebe. And others
2:33:47
were like, your concentration was off. You should listen to
2:33:50
yourself. A different person from the from the anti semitism
2:33:57
and it's all different. Same guy. No, no, it's all different
2:33:59
people. It's all different.
2:34:00
John C Dvorak: You get a little more variety.
2:34:02
Adam Curry: Thank you mad boy, there we we appreciate your
2:34:05
work. And of course, all the work that all of the artists do
2:34:09
diligently and it's good to see non AI art now doesn't mean that
2:34:13
we're going to choose it. It doesn't always hit it on the
2:34:17
mark. But in this case, I mean, this was great. Great. Matt
2:34:20
really, really nailed it. And thank you to Dred Scott for
2:34:25
using many of these pieces of art in the modern podcast apps
2:34:28
in the chapters. If you don't have one, you're really missing
2:34:31
out on some fun stuff. Go to podcast apps.com Get yourself a
2:34:35
modern podcast app, you're going to need it because with the
2:34:38
coming clampdown, you're going to see Apple and Spotify and
2:34:43
YouTube music, podcasts, whatever that is. You're going
2:34:47
to see him deplatforming You're gonna see your podcast taken
2:34:50
off. I guess it's foregone conclusion. Yep. Because you
2:34:54
know, you can't say from the river to the sea. That that is
2:34:58
one of those chants that will be
2:34:59
John C Dvorak: that way. Federal chance. Yeah. federal legal
2:35:02
chance. Yeah. No, that's a good name for the show illegal
2:35:05
chance.
2:35:06
Adam Curry: I like that. Right. That illegal chance. Yeah, that
2:35:09
was pretty good. Which
2:35:11
John C Dvorak: is pathetic.
2:35:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's illegal speech, which as we noted, all
2:35:18
this started in 2011 with the bullying laws and hate speech.
2:35:21
And that's kind of where we lost our way. I would
2:35:24
John C Dvorak: take it back to the late 70s and early 80s, when
2:35:27
the concept of political politically correct speech came
2:35:31
into play. That began the self censorship. process. Yeah, I'll
2:35:36
give you that. I'll give it and then after that it slowly
2:35:39
evolved into well, let's see how far we can push. This is how
2:35:43
stupid the American public is to put up with us. And
2:35:47
Adam Curry: I mean, it's amazing what's happened all over the
2:35:49
world so far, and we're like the last holdout. And now we're just
2:35:53
John C Dvorak: blessed because as we've played clips, lots of
2:35:56
clips that to this effect. Well, you know, unlike the United
2:36:00
States, we haven't got a first amendment to protect us. And so
2:36:05
these laws come into play, so we really don't have any any way to
2:36:09
flip push back on them.
2:36:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, the only thing you got left in the UK a
2:36:13
Speaker's Corner.
2:36:15
John C Dvorak: Okay, have you ever been to that? Yeah,
2:36:18
Adam Curry: I report is nobody there. I reported not last time
2:36:21
we were there. And you're right. There was nobody there. Although
2:36:23
I have seen some videos recently if people because that's the
2:36:27
only place you can still say stuff. You can still say stuff
2:36:31
on Speaker's Corner. Is that the corner of Hyde Park? I'm gonna
2:36:34
say it's
2:36:34
John C Dvorak: in Hyde Park. It's over in Mayfair. Yeah,
2:36:37
yeah,
2:36:38
Adam Curry: there's so there's still people on their soapbox.
2:36:41
But but don't don't call anybody a crew lesbian online, because
2:36:46
the cops will come and arrest you go look it up. It's crazy.
2:36:52
Anyway, that's our time and talent portion. We appreciate
2:36:56
the work that all of you do boots on the ground clips,
2:36:59
insights information, but propagating the message hitting
2:37:03
people in the mouth all this is very welcomed and very good. And
2:37:06
now we go to the treasure portion doesn't happen often.
2:37:09
But once again, no executive producers only a few Associate
2:37:12
Executive producers. The list is short, as we've alluded to, and
2:37:16
we kick it off with James from Australia, Western Australia.
2:37:21
Yeah,
2:37:22
John C Dvorak: so we are top donor who will be bumped up to
2:37:25
executive will become an executive producer. That's a guy
2:37:27
in Australia.
2:37:28
Adam Curry: Yep. Well, you know why? Because he values free
2:37:32
speech. He knows is leaving his country.
2:37:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. He's done. He's from
2:37:37
Adam Curry: gidgegannup is gidgegannup. I've never heard of
2:37:40
gidgegannup. Good,
2:37:42
John C Dvorak: good, good. gidgegannup giga, good. No.
2:37:46
Good. You can get it.
2:37:48
Adam Curry: Did you get it? $217.38. He says James from
2:37:53
Western Australia, in Texas. There you go enroute to my visit
2:37:58
my girlfriend's family in Mexico. Aussie seem happy to
2:38:03
become W E. F. Surfs. So if you could sort me a green card, that
2:38:08
would be swell. Oh, here's an idea. When you're in Mexico,
2:38:12
walk across the border and get a phone $10,000 and less
2:38:17
paperwork.
2:38:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're gonna fly back to Australia when
2:38:21
you feel like in fact, Grant American. Yeah. What's your
2:38:25
problem? Just $20,000
2:38:27
Adam Curry: He says sorry, my 333 donations and dollar reduce.
2:38:31
Wow. Okay, so he even donated $300. Okay. Exactly. Anyway, so
2:38:35
yes, it's all I can afford. Now. We appreciate it, brother. We
2:38:39
appreciate you coming in de douche poor vervoer. He says
2:38:43
John C Dvorak: you've been D deuced. Alright, Craig Bayless
2:38:49
in Birmingham, Alabama, comes to a 212 12 and he says this is a
2:38:55
switcher, a switcher Wolf. switcher Wolf. Okay, this is
2:39:01
donation for Phoebe for her Dame hood. That told you some people
2:39:06
I loved her performance on the last show, but maybe Adam should
2:39:09
consider doggy daycare on show days. I send my dog to one and
2:39:16
she loves it. Yeah, he
2:39:17
Adam Curry: sent me a Phoebe does not do well in the doggy
2:39:20
daycare. She has to be in their own cage because she doesn't.
2:39:26
Dogs
2:39:26
John C Dvorak: like that. We are very familiar with that since we
2:39:28
own it, Carol. Yeah.
2:39:30
Adam Curry: What do you do with those dogs? You lock them up in
2:39:31
the ISO so am I right?
2:39:34
John C Dvorak: Well, John, consider using this in place of
2:39:38
sad puppy. Thanks for the best but the sad puppy did nothing by
2:39:43
the way.
2:39:44
Adam Curry: You had the best part. I didn't even know you had
2:39:46
a sad puppy in there. I had a sad puppy in the newsletter.
2:39:49
Yeah, well, the sad puppy is overplayed, bro, just give it
2:39:53
up. No.
2:39:54
John C Dvorak: You're gonna be stuck with it forever. Thanks
2:39:56
for the best podcast in the universe. Key continue News.
2:40:00
I've been listening since John was running the Boeing jets
2:40:03
promotion 767777 etc. and have not donated until now. Thanks
2:40:10
Phoebe. Thanks so much again jingles goat scream John Key he
2:40:15
and Asian dog FYI This is to replace the offensive donation
2:40:20
with this amount for dogs ducks and bones. Adam He is risen
2:40:25
Craig Bayless.
2:40:27
Adam Curry: Thank you Craig. Well, let's do a little bonus
2:40:30
clip here before we do your jingles. As we have yet another
2:40:34
update in the ongoing Boeing versus Airbus saga
2:40:38
Unknown: in New York a Delta Airlines plane was forced to
2:40:40
return to JFK airport today after losing its emergency
2:40:44
slide. Delta says the crew on the flight to Los Angeles
2:40:47
declared an emergency when they heard a sound near the right
2:40:50
wing after the plane landed safely they saw the slide was
2:40:54
gone it's were about sure unclear
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Adam Curry: well done Boeing Yeah, I think the idea is to
2:41:03
have everyone stopped flying all together. It's just stopped
2:41:07
flying stay home does Yeah. So I don't know what the John he he.
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I'm lucky.
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John C Dvorak: I can do that. I pulled
2:41:16
Adam Curry: the different John clip for this for this occasion.
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I thought you would like this baby.
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Karma we go to that was cool. Right? You'd like that one is
2:41:37
great. And great voice. Katrina Gerstner. Eugene, Oregon to 10
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and 60 Russian aggression. Sorry. Hey, John. Adam. This is
2:41:45
a long overdue overdue donation since I've been listening to you
2:41:48
for almost two years and I just gave you my first donation via
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PayPal. Well, I think we need to do D deuced. By the way, I want
2:42:00
to thank our see it's he is our sir Montauk. He sent me a de
2:42:11
douche button. Did he send you anything?
2:42:13
John C Dvorak: Yes, I have a D do douche button. It said the
2:42:15
dinner table. Oh, really? Because
2:42:17
Adam Curry: it's so it's one of those green plastic you know,
2:42:19
like Yeah, hit it hit it in case of emergency to stop the
2:42:22
assembly line and Yeah. Kind of fun. You have it at the dinner,
2:42:29
denarius? I'd like it so just whoever needs a de douching they
2:42:33
get to hit the button during dinner. Yeah,
2:42:35
John C Dvorak: I guess Yeah, it's what it's for. And I got my
2:42:38
jokes out that Theodore seems to like hitting the button.
2:42:43
Adam Curry: Better to use a button button you said button.
2:42:47
And I got my belt shelfs as well.
2:42:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you would. My belt is a belt the giant belt
2:42:52
the belt shells?
2:42:53
Adam Curry: Yeah. And it's two of them. So one for my already
2:42:57
John C Dvorak: got one. He said he sent me two. But I only got
2:43:00
one. Well, he sent me two and he said one from me gamble. Yeah,
2:43:03
he said the same thing to me. He's give one to a local UPS
2:43:06
guy.
2:43:08
Adam Curry: delivery person about you got gypped There you
2:43:10
go. No,
2:43:11
John C Dvorak: not necessarily. Maybe the delivery person took
2:43:13
the belt after reading the
2:43:14
Adam Curry: note. All right. Back to the this note from
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Katrina. I had to write to say how pleasantly surprised I was
2:43:22
to hear Adams coverage of the campus protests over the Israeli
2:43:25
Gaza war. No anti semitism was seen. Yep. I appreciate your
2:43:30
support and not falling for the hype. Okay, you go the lone
2:43:35
person.
2:43:37
John C Dvorak: One gal I wanted
2:43:39
Adam Curry: to add I was listening to the gray zone and
2:43:42
Max Blumenthal's take was that the masks were worn by
2:43:46
protesters to avoid cameras from identifying them. Yeah, because
2:43:49
they all want to work at Goldman Sachs later. I really enjoy your
2:43:52
analysis especially regarding COVID and Ukraine. I also
2:43:56
appreciate your coverage of the EU not many outlets cover the EU
2:44:00
love the show, even though I don't always agree with you to
2:44:03
example environmental stuff at times. Keep up the good work by
2:44:08
the way. Government Abbott totally gets away with stuff
2:44:11
because he's in a wheelchair. I should know. I have moderate CP.
2:44:16
What CP
2:44:20
John C Dvorak: CP cerebral. Yeah,
2:44:24
Adam Curry: if you ever end and I send a note back at Trina,
2:44:28
what kind of goodies do you get when you have CP? Let us know.
2:44:32
No. She says yes. He said he totally gets away with stuff
2:44:36
because you're in a wheelchair. I should know I have moderate so
2:44:38
she gets away with stuff. Tickets and stuff. I Oh, this is
2:44:42
interesting. No one you know, because everyone's so
2:44:45
politically correct. Because it's talking about it. No one's
2:44:48
talking about we're interested. We love talking about all kinds
2:44:51
of stuff. If you ever have a meetup in Central Oregon, please
2:44:54
let me know I think that there are meetups in I don't know
2:44:57
about Central Oregon. But check no agenda meet upstox Katrina
2:45:01
Thank you very much. I'm gonna give you a gratuitous karma. I
2:45:04
love that note, you've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, Jennifer a neater food field or
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Netherfield in Mont Ville, New Jersey, comes in with 210 60
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Dear John and Adam, please accept this donation as my thank
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you for continuing to keep me informed and entertained with
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the best podcast in the universe. Adam? Yes, I recently
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had a day full of 30 threes. But then when I heard you are now in
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need of a new travel agent, I realized that was my sign to
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donate. I also booked my clients not just family and friends for
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me at Seaside destinations. travel.com that seaside
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destinations traveled I'd come. I'd love to help. Thank you,
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Jennifer. Oh,
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Adam Curry: Jennifer, email me Adam mccurry.com. Let's talk.
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river cruise river cruise River
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John C Dvorak: in the Rhone River are supposed to be dying.
2:46:09
Adam Curry: How about the Nile? The Nile might be fun.
2:46:13
John C Dvorak: Ya know, dinner might be first for the Parana
2:46:17
Adam Curry: from Bensenville Illinois,
2:46:19
John C Dvorak: there's also a little worm that swims around it
2:46:21
where I won't go into
2:46:22
Adam Curry: place. Now I know what happens with that little
2:46:25
worm Eli the coffee guy comes in from Bensenville Illinois
2:46:28
402 $104.30. I'm sure we added some Pay Pal fees. Farmers
2:46:33
Market season is upon us. I would like to urge all producers
2:46:35
to visit your local farmers market this summer. That's a
2:46:38
good idea. With the ongoing war on our food supply that come in
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for your cows. There's no better way to meet local farmers and
2:46:46
artisans who supply real quality food and your community small
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batch. Plus, you will be supporting small local
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businesses that work hard to feed your families and their
2:46:56
families and yours. Yes, I agree. And when they start
2:47:00
closing down the stuff at the store, you know you you can you
2:47:03
can go to these farms and say hey, remember me from the
2:47:06
farmers market and they will feed you and everyone else
2:47:09
they'll shoot? Can I get a jobs karma for the farmers and
2:47:13
crafters out there? And I'm going to add ranchers. And if
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for those that can't get to a farmers market but still want
2:47:21
fresh roasted coffee. Ah, here we go. He ties it in. Visit
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first order. Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee guy jobs,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
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John C Dvorak: I was drinking money.
2:47:43
Adam Curry: I was drinking it this morning. gigwalk him I ran
2:47:45
out of my black rifle. So I've been drinking the gigawatt which
2:47:48
is it's good.
2:47:50
John C Dvorak: I like it. But they have a variety of roasts. I
2:47:54
Adam Curry: like as dark as possible. And then they have
2:47:57
flavors. You don't like the dark roast to you. I
2:47:59
John C Dvorak: used to I used to have a Pavoni made the VIS
2:48:02
Presto and I got that thing back when I was in college and I made
2:48:06
use the forever and I was a dark roast nut. And then I discovered
2:48:13
some light roasts. And with this the machine I use the Australian
2:48:20
machine which I don't know I mean it's it makes a great cup
2:48:25
of coffee. And it is like for some reason it just takes a
2:48:29
light roast and says here try this. And it's like beyond. It's
2:48:35
beyond compare. It's just so much better than the you know
2:48:39
the harsh dark run so I don't even like dark roast.
2:48:42
Adam Curry: Can I ask you a culinary question? How do you
2:48:46
make your coffee? I'll say up front. I am a French press guy.
2:48:51
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, I use a machine I use the what's the
2:48:54
Breslin Bressler Bramble rebel rebel, I use a rebel. I have a
2:48:59
rebel I got it for Christmas about five years ago everyone
2:49:03
pitched in and bought me oh, this rebel has got the grinder.
2:49:07
Oh, that's basically automated.
2:49:09
Adam Curry: That's an expensive machine.
2:49:11
John C Dvorak: It's a very expensive machine and it did
2:49:13
took like eight people to pay for it. And ever since then I've
2:49:16
been using it and I and I that's when I gravitated to light
2:49:21
roasts and I realize it with the light roast which are harder,
2:49:26
you know, or they just produce a different product especially but
2:49:30
that machine really makes a light roast killer. A is that
2:49:34
that's the coffee I was in Indonesia one year for some meet
2:49:39
up
2:49:40
Adam Curry: was the Obama family reunion. No, no, I
2:49:44
John C Dvorak: used to be pre Obama. And I was having coffee
2:49:48
in the hotel that was so good. It was like Sumatra into some
2:49:52
but it was a light roast coffee. That was you could not stop
2:49:55
drinking it. And then I realized what the sorry, just take it oh
2:50:00
It's okay to light the Breville and a light roast espresso may
2:50:05
with light roast is just that coffee is what I've always had
2:50:10
been looking for and it is a stunner. So now if I have
2:50:14
anything medium light I can tolerate light is better, but
2:50:18
it's done with dark roast and I don't I haven't used a French
2:50:23
press probably for three years. Well I
2:50:28
Adam Curry: since we don't have advertisements or creepy
2:50:30
corporate money I will vouch for the Breville product line we
2:50:35
just got rid of after more than 10 years of constant everyday
2:50:40
use our Breville hot water heater it finally started and
2:50:44
which was not only a water heater, Tina also used it to
2:50:47
kill crickets. It's
2:50:49
John C Dvorak: a kettle is a kettle Yeah, I didn't know that
2:50:52
you made one of those. Yes, smart. Don't okay Bucha says
2:50:56
we're on the topic. So I've gone I've gone through kettles for
2:51:00
I've had kettles probably since the first time we went to
2:51:03
England and the seven
2:51:05
Adam Curry: T was invented. And so
2:51:08
John C Dvorak: these kettles are all made in China. They last
2:51:12
about two years two and a half years before they crap out. So
2:51:17
I've probably gone to 10 kettles they just crap out they don't
2:51:22
stop boiling or they just crash I've got you know Costco has
2:51:26
them they've been having him for a number of years now Costco and
2:51:28
you get it for like 1012 bucks I'm sure that Breville is like
2:51:31
30 but yeah Breville would make remote make a product that lasts
2:51:35
you
2:51:36
Adam Curry: know the Breville is expensive. Oh no, it's remember
2:51:41
it's a smart kettle Well, I basically the same thing I
2:51:46
bought 10 years ago it's just not a little different design.
2:51:49
It's beyond the last
2:51:51
John C Dvorak: 10 years is five times longer than a Chinese
2:51:54
Costco kettle will last so I'm gonna go
2:51:57
Adam Curry: take a look and see and see where it's manufactured.
2:52:00
I wonder if
2:52:01
John C Dvorak: it's probably made in China but you have
2:52:02
quality control issue things you know Yeah. Now it's we have one
2:52:07
last one last donations yes go. And another Smart Money donation
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from Linda Lou packin obviously from Lakewood, Colorado who
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promotes herself with $200 donations and she wants some
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jobs karma and says the following for a resume that gets
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resume writer of resumes on the producers list. And thank you
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Melinda for keeping up the keeping it going the she is
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Adam Curry: our guide. She's our North Star. As long as she's
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donating I feel good
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's for
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God. That's right.
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Adam Curry: Who was it? Someone Someone told me that they use
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her services and we're extremely happy with it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we I got to say note that there are there
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are pleased as punch.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. If it's really executive for executive resumes.
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I mean, it's it's not just you know, if you want to a job at
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Taco Bell, hey, nothing wrong with Taco Bell. If you're from
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Venezuela. That's who's getting all the issues getting all the
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jobs, man, we know what's going on. Now all the gigs are gone.
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Thank you very much to our one executive and our Associate
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Executive Producers you have dragged us through a yet another
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the number of people listen to the show and who supported it.
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You know, you can always donate and air your grievances. That
2:53:52
way, you can do that too. And there's nothing wrong with it. I
2:53:55
mean, if you email us you tell what's gonna happen to those
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notes? Yeah. Why don't you just send us a donation and tell us
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how much you hate us. I mean, that's valid. We're okay with
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that. Look forward to Yeah, definitely, definitely used to
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be much more of a thing. And of course, we always love everyone
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who comes in under $50 For reasons of anonymity and our
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sustaining donors, who are always there for us because
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these are donations they set up and it goes every week or every
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yourself no agenda donations.com for the old schoolers.
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dvorak.org/na And we've got a meet ups coming up some
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birthdays, a layaway night, which is always exciting. After
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John takes us through the $50 all the way down to the $50
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donations.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we'll take a look. Starting with Greta
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Acklin in Rice's landing Pennsylvania, which is actually
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a combination $150.07 was a combination of two donations
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5273 and 105 35. And she does have a switcheroo. So I'll read
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it. I would like this to be credited to credited to my Excel
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anniversary and birthday my love. I don't think he's on the
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birthday list.
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Adam Curry: And I'll double check Dan Auckland. Okay, we
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don't know exactly how old he is, but he's old.
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John C Dvorak: Okay. Dame Lee in Arnold, Maryland. 105 35. Love
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you guys so much. God bless you both. Well, thank you. John G
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$100. From Deerfield Beach, Florida Trevor Elise in the gap.
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Queensland, Australia. Another Aussie I told you when I did the
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thing about Elmer Fudd that the Aussies to kind of chime in
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again and here they are. They
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Adam Curry: are man. That's and you know what the Aussies get
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it. They appreciate it. They appreciate it. Um, so
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John C Dvorak: somebody's got to think tell him what's going on.
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9999 says donating wise still can't be for the security
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John C Dvorak: Timothy Corcoran in Calgary, Alberta. 8888 tion
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as i Happy birthday to a smokin hot wife. Fluffy comet. Yes
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st no not named but liens. liens probably some isn't. So the
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price a lead even though it says saline. Scott Nelson our buddy
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in Council Bluffs Iowa $50.01 Now the following people are all
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$50 donors name and location now the shortlist, making a total of
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36 donors for the whole show. Jack Schofield in yankeetown,
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Florida Brian Eamon Heiser in Lancaster, California Aaron wise
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Gerber in Bend, Oregon, Richard Gardner. I probably says Parts
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Unknown. I think he's in New York, Michael L. Elmore in
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Gastonia North Carolina, John Taylor in Florissant. Colorado,
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Zev green in Teaneck, New Jersey, J Alvarez in Meridian.
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Mer are married and I'm sorry Meriden Connecticut. Steven
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crummy, our buddy in El Cajon, California. Last on the list.
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Alex? Salah shower solid salsa Salsa Sour sour. Yeah, tell us
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our he's been doing shakers hyped? He's been Ohio. I want to
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thank these people for letting us do show 1655
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Adam Curry: And we also again want to thank our executive and
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Associate Executive Producers you made it happen for show
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today
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and no shortage of birthdays. We got Mark Perrin, wishing his
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smokin hot wife fluff calm and happy one was her birthday
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yesterday Virginia or XUA says Happy Birthday to Sonya see
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turning 33 Tomorrow Oh, Katie chopper was through son Ezekiel
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chopper Happy Birthday he'll be 32 on the 30th. Sergio
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celebrates on May 8 and Darren Aklan gets a big happy birthday
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from his loving wife. Happy birthday, everybody get the best
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Yes, indeed you can. You can just keep your own your own
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accounting and you can take as long as you want. In fact, John
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Walters says after 20 months of a fearless battle against the
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Pay Pal evil domain I finally obtained my knighthood from
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henceforth I would like to be known as Sir trout Milt guardian
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of the squealed Chuck Do you think I got that right? squealed
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I would like to request smoked rattlesnake for the feast and a
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bridge lip sucker fish bridge lips sucker fish that sounds no
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idea and sadly Well normally you know these culinary treats. All
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right, well, I ordered it for you so it's they're dead so it's
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good. Thank you for your continued media deconstruction
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To my Nash, no agenda. Stay hard brothers gun yar for hitting me
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in the mouth. And Leos are Leo J for challenging me to complete
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33 333 Push ups with 33,333 Push ups during this year of our Lord
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2024 John, thanks for all you do. I would like to request a D
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douching. As I never received one with my first $50 donation
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back in September of 2022. And an R two d two karma Do you have
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any sound bites of Macho Man Randy Savage. No. You do not
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have that.
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: karma. All right. Well, with that, very happy to
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bring you up onto the podium. Here is the blade for our
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layaway night. You gotta you gotta go I got one beautiful.
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All right, Joe Walter stepping up, young man. Thanks to your 20
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months of fearless battle and finally making it it does work.
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Everybody can become a knight or Dame with a no agenda show. I am
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hookers and blow in the red boys and Chardonnay smoke rattlesnake
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for the feasts with a brunch lip suckerfish. Along with that, in
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case you're interested, we've got some Rubenesque women and
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Rosae we have some bong hits and bourbon, some ginger ale and
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because it's real. This you are real night of the no agenda
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roundtable. Thank you all so much for supporting us here at
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episode 1655. No one
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another way you can help out the show is by organizing meetups
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people love going to meet up they love getting together. It
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really is a supplemental program that comes in addition with
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cons, I mean and no one's ever the Eve as far as I know.
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There's never even been an Israel Hamas fight at any of
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these meetups which is amazing because only amazing people go
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to them like these in Fort Wayne, Indiana. adilyn
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attendance three had to bug out early Johnny would love the
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house wine has got electrolytes. Sally from Fort Wayne having a
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great time in the morning. Thank you, Jared from Fort Wayne. How
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fun time was surely two in the morning.
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We close to Dan to get time at lunch today. Thanks, Mike
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and for weighing in the morning.
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Adam Curry: See you next month die. Alright, energetic bunch
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over there in Fort Wayne Kernersville North Carolina.
3:04:22
Here's their report. Hey, John Adam, this is Sir William of
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West Pennsyltucky at the Kernersville North Carolina
3:04:27
meetup, trains good plastic planes bad. This is boring in
3:04:32
the morning.
3:04:33
Unknown: This is Sir James about the cheesecake.
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John C Dvorak: John and Adam. This is producer x from the
3:04:39
Kernersville meetup thanking you both for your courage in the
3:04:42
morning gentlemen, this is Richie Rich. Keep up the great
3:04:46
work. This is Ashley from Gibsonville in the morning,
3:04:50
making our own meal you says Christine for rally in the
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morning.
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Adam Curry: Great sign off. Thank you Very much. There's a
3:05:00
couple more meetups that are taking place actually today. The
3:05:04
I must be high number 15 which is already underway I think in
3:05:08
Granite brewery in Toronto, Canada. And on Thursday that'll
3:05:12
be the second of May the northern wake amygdala shaving
3:05:16
meet up six o'clock at hoppy endings in Raleigh, North
3:05:20
Carolina. On the way in the next month or so Torrance, California
3:05:24
Arlington, Virginia Blaine, Washington late in the
3:05:26
Netherlands Indianapolis, Indiana, Charleston, South
3:05:28
Carolina, Charleston, North Carolina, Richmond, Virginia
3:05:32
Austin, Texas on the 18th Hagen them Connecticut Athens, Greece.
3:05:36
I need a meet up report from you guys on the 22nd Tulsa, Oklahoma
3:05:40
then in June Fargo, North Dakota Scottsdale Arizona Mosley,
3:05:44
Virginia, the 15th Amsterdam the Netherlands I will be there and
3:05:47
Trinidad and Tobago on July 28. Dude, send us meet up reports.
3:05:53
I'll even edit it together if you got gaps. Don't worry about
3:05:56
if you have someone that you can produce it that's even better.
3:05:59
No agenda meetups.com If you have never been to one, find one
3:06:04
at that website. If you can't find one start one yourself.
3:06:07
It's easy sons
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Unknown: Dyson day you won't be triggered. You want to be buddy
3:06:23
feels the same. Is like
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Adam Curry: yeah, maybe like one big party. And as we always like
3:06:32
to do as we get nearer to the end of the show. We'd like to
3:06:35
bring you into the way the sausage is made with some of the
3:06:38
production work as we determine what our end of show ISO will
3:06:42
be. Do you have any for us today?
3:06:44
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have to. Oh, okay.
3:06:48
Adam Curry: Yes, I see them all right, here we go. What you got?
3:06:51
John C Dvorak: Start with insult.
3:06:53
Unknown: Do not insult the intelligence of
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the American people.
3:06:56
Adam Curry: So long. Borderline borderline on the length
3:07:03
John C Dvorak: nothing burger and nothing burger. Me Yeah,
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yeah. W e if you don't like the long one you're gonna have to.
3:07:13
Well, let
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Adam Curry: me see if I can do any better. The whole thing is
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icky to me.
3:07:18
John C Dvorak: Hmm. I like it.
3:07:20
Adam Curry: I got more. Yeah, you're wrong. No, no doubt with
3:07:25
this one. Surely we can
3:07:26
Unknown: find better things to do than this.
3:07:30
Adam Curry: And then I think finally, this is a possible
3:07:32
winner.
3:07:33
Unknown: See you later.
3:07:34
John C Dvorak: I like that one a lot. You're Wow, you actually
3:07:39
have three good ones.
3:07:40
Adam Curry: What? Which one? Would you like? You want to hear
3:07:43
him again?
3:07:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, duh. Yeah, except for the second was no
3:07:47
good. The whole thing is icky to me.
3:07:50
Unknown: See y'all later.
3:07:52
Surely we can find better things to do than this. I think
3:07:55
John C Dvorak: they might as well go with that was Zuckerberg
3:07:58
it sounds like
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Adam Curry: No, that's a Jeff Jarvis.
3:08:02
John C Dvorak: It's interesting. They have the same intonations.
3:08:05
Same meal. Yeah.
3:08:07
Adam Curry: Must be you want to do that one. You wanna do the
3:08:09
Jarvis?
3:08:14
John C Dvorak: Let's go see you later.
3:08:15
Adam Curry: See you later. Okay. See you later. It is good. Good
3:08:19
news. Good news. Good news. Good news. I got actually got an
3:08:23
email or I think it was a he was a post. I don't know if it was
3:08:26
on Twitter or a mastodon. Tom was like, good news sucks, and
3:08:31
then all sudden heard the most recent good news clips like good
3:08:34
news is great. So you're, you're garnering fans. So this, of
3:08:39
course, is the clip that we like to play for you so that you
3:08:41
don't go out all depressed about all the horrible things that are
3:08:44
taking place because sometimes there's just good news. What do
3:08:47
we have today? This
3:08:49
John C Dvorak: is about the saving of a Newfoundland dog
3:08:52
that giant Newfie that was in a fire and it's a terrible story,
3:08:56
but they saved the dog and now he's in good spirits. And just
3:09:00
as a dog story, let's go Fox
3:09:02
Unknown: five has the dramatic photos of Peachtree City
3:09:04
firefighters rescuing a family's dog from their burning home
3:09:07
press.
3:09:08
You were saying was touching Go and wait until you hear how big
3:09:11
this dog is. Fox is Doug Evans. Gavin's talked with the family
3:09:15
and first responders.
3:09:16
This is Napoleon the 10 year old Newfoundland. He's had a hard
3:09:20
week. Firefighters found his lifeless body on the bedroom
3:09:23
floor of his family's Peachtree City condo Tuesday. They say
3:09:26
smoke was ceiling to floor from the fire. The only way out for
3:09:30
Napoleon and his rescue team with through this window. The
3:09:34
big fella weighs 140 pounds. After squeezing through that
3:09:38
window again the firefighters and the dog together. They set
3:09:42
to work on life saving measures. I think at
3:09:45
least five people carry on the backboard so it was like
3:09:47
carrying a human. Firefighters
3:09:49
then rushed him to an emergency vet for further life saving
3:09:52
intervention. It worked. Napoleon was released three days
3:09:57
later and in good health and was at the destroyed condo for a
3:10:01
reunion with his rescuers and family.
3:10:04
It's awesome to be able to get like I said give back and
3:10:06
everything and say that we had a positive outcome.
3:10:09
They are amazing. They this was a devastating loss for us and
3:10:14
they kept it from being just a complete tragedy. But
3:10:18
they say for now, Napoleon is enough. And they are grateful.
3:10:22
Everything
3:10:23
that we lost is replaceable, except for
3:10:27
Napoleon, right in Peachtree City.
3:10:31
Adam Curry: Do they edit with the pause button over there? I
3:10:36
thought you're gonna do the Christie Nome dog story, but
3:10:39
now.
3:10:41
John C Dvorak: You heard about she put the dog down. Yeah, she
3:10:44
Adam Curry: just did a puppy.
3:10:45
John C Dvorak: Was that a good story?
3:10:47
Adam Curry: That's my point.
3:10:49
Unknown: A good news story from JCD had the vibes for you and me
3:10:56
and we all feel better. Now he's done his bit to the back to
3:11:01
reality that's turning to shit. No, not
3:11:05
Adam Curry: here. No reality. Here. We are ending our
3:11:08
broadcast day. And we thank you all, particularly trolls who
3:11:12
stuck it out. We'd like having you here. Of course, we really
3:11:15
do. It's beautiful to have here. Stick around on no agenda
3:11:19
stream.com. Or if you're in the troll room, we're using a modern
3:11:22
podcast app which will alert you within 90 seconds of us
3:11:26
publishing a new episode. We have episode 699 of DeVore AK
3:11:32
Horwitz unplugged coming up. That's one before the big 700
3:11:38
which is coming up on Tuesday. I suggest you all listen to that.
3:11:42
On Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday live comes out Wednesday
3:11:46
on the podcast. End of show. End of show mixes. I'm apprehensive
3:11:54
but John says the worst but there you go. We got Fletcher.
3:11:58
We got some Professor J. Jones. We got Bill checking in all of
3:12:03
that and more coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill
3:12:05
country here in February to number six in the morning,
3:12:08
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
3:12:10
John C Dvorak: If another Silicon Valley where we all know
3:12:13
that Phoebe is not a white lab. I am John C. Dvorak. That's
3:12:17
true.
3:12:18
Adam Curry: That was made long before we figured out what she
3:12:20
really was. Remember I said no agenda donations.com until
3:12:24
Thursday, everybody in adios MoPhO who we who we are and such
3:12:32
we begin with a battle over paternity leave. Leave I deserve
3:12:37
it. Hey, man, I should have this day off I have privileged I have
3:12:42
this beautiful beautiful white
3:12:45
John C Dvorak: Labrador labs for great dogs good beginner to tell
3:12:49
Adam Curry: you man this dog was looking at me like choose me. I
3:12:51
think we're going to adopt this dog. Rat dog crap Dog Sweater
3:12:55
was just it was crap dog crap dog. sweater was a trap dog
3:13:02
obviously. Well, crap dog trap dog. sweater was this sweater
3:13:07
was wrapped dog crap dog would you'd like a free dog. She's now
3:13:12
stuck there. When I'm frustrated with John I need something to
3:13:15
kick so maybe this white lab will do? Just seems like the
3:13:19
right thing to do.
3:13:20
John C Dvorak: You can't do that. By the way. You have an
3:13:23
adult dog and they're into the calmest greatest really good dog
3:13:27
or they're nuts. No matter what. Well, I
3:13:31
Adam Curry: gotta tell you rap dog trap Dog Sweater was this
3:13:35
sweater was trapped dog cat dog sweater was this dog it was so
3:13:40
sweet. It was just trapped dog kept Dog Sweater was that the
3:13:44
dog? The dog barks the sweater was trapped trapped dog here we
3:13:48
have no idea about this dog really other than trapped dog
3:13:51
trapped Dog Sweater was when you call her she comes to whatever
3:13:55
was trapped dog crap dog knows what it was if you don't believe
3:14:01
you don't listen to it. You have no idea how much content is in
3:14:03
there. Okay,
3:14:05
John C Dvorak: before we went any further is this particular
3:14:07
clip because it does bring out an issue that I think is
3:14:10
floating around. Canada is the subtext around just like being
3:14:17
in a different domain. It is like being in a different
3:14:19
dimension. You just float around and don't cause trouble.
3:14:25
Apparently, people are floating around when you're in them, or
3:14:33
around them, whether you're in for a little short term or long
3:14:36
term around so they're floating around and they're stringing
3:14:43
because we have telephone poles around. YC he was floating
3:14:50
around. That's what I thought the story was about.
3:15:00
We started doing our show this stuff was floating around.
3:15:04
Adam Curry: I can tell you right now people doing Trump with
3:15:06
farts you're not going to be shows lighten your rip and it's
3:15:09
not just farming jobs is
3:15:11
Unknown: huge red ribbon hashtags.
3:15:14
Trump's lawyers repulsed by the scent and the smell oh
3:15:17
Adam Curry: yay. More of that he's actually passing gas. It's
3:15:21
just too beautiful to believe.
3:15:23
Unknown: Snopes looked into this very interesting what diaper doc
3:15:27
love
3:15:27
Adam Curry: were podcast breaking breaking.
3:15:31
Unknown: But I went down that rabbit hole, we give you
3:15:33
Adam Curry: some real information and the lawyers
3:15:35
keeling over on the putting on gas mask. Sources reliable
3:15:43
sources
3:15:44
Unknown: because he can't read. He's written as
3:15:47
Adam Curry: breaking breaking. He's worn diapers, since
3:15:50
Unknown: probably the 1980s nickname was wet wipes,
3:15:53
witnessed him and soiling himself in a rage sitting
3:15:57
to do with anything he did in the Oval Office
3:16:00
with the Turkish president and Dianne Feinstein and they did
3:16:04
absolutely nothing.
3:16:08
Get paid. And he just freaked out and then very loudly,
3:16:12
evacuated is bound to
3:16:14
smell. Bad
3:16:15
acts only may have led off a sharp
3:16:18
Adam Curry: while the US
3:16:19
Unknown: dresses sniffing is far shorter than
3:16:23
nothing wrong. Absolutely.
3:16:29
Better than you know, could
3:16:30
Adam Curry: it be a jury intimidation is Trump as far as
3:16:33
intimidating the jury and
3:16:34
Unknown: that it's very stinky around him.
3:16:36
It's putrid odor.
3:16:37
It's actually impacting the people around him. So
3:16:40
Adam Curry: what are you thinking? Don't you know us by
3:16:42
now?
3:16:51
Unknown: borak.org/n
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A See y'all later.
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