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John C Dvorak: And out dressed
in a chicken, Adam curry Jhansi
Dvorak they may 5 2024 This
Adam Curry: Year Award winning
give me the assassination
episode 1657
Unknown: This is no agenda
enjoying
Adam Curry: a classic
clothesline and broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here theories and
numbers six and the Morning
everybody hurry in
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all
saying don't shoot your dog on
Josie Devorah
Adam Curry: was didn't make it
through. I had no idea. I've
been good all morning. And
John C Dvorak: then oh, yeah,
now getting the histamine up and
you're going to be coughing all
show. Oh,
Adam Curry: it was bad
yesterday. Yes. It's all of a
sudden we got
John C Dvorak: I thought you had
a heap as all over the place
that prevent that problem. No,
Adam Curry: that would that was
in the old house. Gotcha.
John C Dvorak: Well, it looks
like you need to move him over
to the new house. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's crazy. You
know, we This is unheard of this
global warming is climate change
is great, because it's been 70
degrees for most of the week,
which and but wet and raining,
which we obviously needed to
that's all good. And something
happened and just a cycle.
John C Dvorak: Everything popped
at once. Ah. And we
Adam Curry: also have this
invasion of caterpillars.
John C Dvorak: The biting type
No, no, no, the
Adam Curry: big thick black
ones. They're just everywhere.
It's incredible. And in the end,
they don't sprout. They don't
turn into butterflies. It turned
into moths which is interesting
because when you have cedars
spraying everywhere you think
that that would kill off the
moths. But no, yes. Yes. No,
it's not. I have a
John C Dvorak: closet that cedar
line just for that purpose.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: And what do you have
in that closet? Your let me get
your tuxedo collection.
John C Dvorak: I have the tuxedo
collection and other rules.
Adam Curry: Since you brought it
up. I I'm amazed by the outrage
over Kristi Noem killing her dog
cricket.
John C Dvorak: Well, I think I
got an earful from Mimi. Oh,
really? Who owns a kennel right
ad? Yeah, so she's a dog
protector of dogs. She is
horrible. This woman isn't I
said everybody's missing the
point about this. Everybody I
think you probably do. Well,
Adam Curry: how about this? How
about I play a clip and then
you'll tell us what point we're
missing. And then I'll give you
my opinion. All sides
Unknown: of the aisle do not
agree on much right now. But may
have been united in outrage over
South Dakota's Governor Christie
knows on fashion that she shot
her 14 month old puppy dog puppy
because she couldn't change kill
it. But she says it killed a
neighbor's chickens. She
defended herself though she
claimed that it was tough
decisions like this. That
happened on farms all the time.
And that she followed the law
and was being a responsible
parent. dog owner and neighbor.
Nah. Which part was the
parenting part? I'm keeping this
to myself. I'm gonna let y'all
talk. What is your opinion on
such things? I start with you
with the baby doll
literally who's just over 14.
But yeah, this is a puppy. If
your dog is acting wrongly, it's
because you were incompetent at
training that dog and I grew up
we have big dogs. Chicken and
the dog did once get a chicken.
Whose fault was it? Mine for not
having the dog somewhere where
he couldn't get the chickens but
then what do you do you train
them? And by the way, if you
have a really challenging dog,
there are countless
organizations to rehome them to
somebody who loves the dog
enough.
Am I want justice for cricket.
This is
terrible. It's a terrible thing
just
to name was was cricket. You
know a sign of a sociopath is
someone that kills animals. No,
I'm not a clinician.
No. But she killed her. Yes, for
sure. All right. All right. So
Adam Curry: I'd love to hear
your view on this. This is an
important news breaking
breaking.
John C Dvorak: My view on this
is that I'm not even sure this
happened. I think Christie gnome
has to do something because she
does not want to be the vice
presidential choice and she's at
the top of the list this did it.
This took her off the list. Oh
good. Without having to say no.
Adam Curry: Interesting Why
would she not want to further
her career into in the Oval
John C Dvorak: tightly named
friends who said look what
happens all these people get
associated with Trump at that
level? It's it's trouble. I
mean, it may be great You know
but then again it's you're gonna
be in the middle of this and
that no get out of this any way
you can. But she didn't want to
get out of it by saying no and
then being on Trump's bad side
she's gonna say I killed dogs I
shoot them all okay, well we
can't pick her
Adam Curry: oh well that's very
interesting very no agenda take
of you there i like i like this
Well, I personally think that
she should just say this was
puppy health care. I mean,
that's what she should call it
because you know, I love the
outrage over some some woman
shooting her dog because
whatever but now Hey, just suck
out those feeders. There's no
problem that's healthcare please
the hypocrisy is crazy that's
crazy the hypocrisy Give me a
break. Hey man that my favorite
video of this week I don't know
if you saw this. Were those I
guess?
John C Dvorak: Oh, I already you
said proceed. Okay, you it's not
going to be what I guess. What
were you going to guess? The
liberal filter? Have you seen
that one?
Adam Curry: No. What is the No I
have not seen the live stop
that's a video that's how
John C Dvorak: does not the last
person who retweeted which will
be the easiest to find is the
lives of tick tock has it
somewhere okay, what is
hilarious? What is it? It turns
your picture into a U turn into
a liberal I have
Adam Curry: seen this Yes. No.
That's not what I was going to
say. No, I love that that
protester the you know the kid
who has like a bike helmet on
and he has a sheer hurting me.
Well, he has he has a shield
made out of half a garbage can
and you rollin know that one?
Towards the cops and the cops
just clotheslines. Just like
it's like I feel bad watching it
over and over and over again.
But it was so funny. To so full.
You
John C Dvorak: know, this is
from when I saw the kids with
the half garbage can run in at
the cops. It's like LARPing is
it? What are you doing exactly
what I was thinking I was just
gonna say that it's LARPing at
its highest level is amazing.
I'm a knight in shining armor.
Adam Curry: I mean, the
derangement of some of these
kids and of course they're just
kids. I mean, what are you gonna
do? They're all young people's
did just that dumb sometimes.
But the drains, sometimes
they're dumb. Sometimes the
derangement that they know that
they've lost so much respect for
law enforcement and police they
don't even think it's what do
you think it is like a cartoon?
Like this cop is not going to
bust your head like, come on.
John C Dvorak: It charging good
cop with a garbage can shield.
Adam Curry: A bike helmet. That
was the best. So yeah, so then
my second favorite video, who
would have ever expected the
frat boys, the frat boys to be
protecting the flag?
John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah,
this new trend. I
Adam Curry: like it. I think
this is this is interesting to
see how we have within these in
these camps, and these, of
course, are privileged boys.
They're all privileged kids.
This is Ole Miss.
Unknown: Gov Tate. Reeves also
posted a video showing counter
protests or singing the Star
Spangled Banner in front of
Palestinian protesters.
surprised they weren't singing
Dixie instead? Because you know
they must be racist Governor
reads the counter protests.
Adam Curry: She is unbelievable.
She isn't you can't even have
respect for the Star Spangled
Banner anymore.
John C Dvorak: Not from her.
He's gotta go. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Now well, she will
eventually I mean the MO
prophecy will come true. It'll
happen and will happen they're
all going to go all the DEI
higher here you
John C Dvorak: all stuffed up. I
am funny. It's not you're going
to use you plowed through the
worst case of the flu. You'd be
on the air. You sound fine.
Adam Curry: I'm still on the
air. It's just this whenever I
whenever I project, then it just
locks up. It's funny. I'm
locking up, man. I don't know
what to say. I'm locking up. I'm
locking up that I'm glad you
think it's funny while I go
through this.
John C Dvorak: I've never you
witnessed this before? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Um, let me
say I have a stay on these
protests because they are rather
interesting. Here's something
that it kind of hit me this
morning about the Google
protests First, I have a feeling
while you listen to this. This
is from I don't
John C Dvorak: use this from a
while back, isn't it? There's no
new Google protests mod
Adam Curry: still ongoing, still
ongoing. There. It's not over.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it'll
continue until the ceasefire.
We'll get to that to the
Unknown: rising. A recent
article in the intercept reveals
that Google and Amazon provide
cloud computing support to the
Israeli military under what is
called Project Nimbus, a
contract worth $1.2 billion. The
Intercept reviewed a 63 page
Israeli Government Procurement
procurement document, which
showed that Amazon and Google
support two of the nation's
leading weapon makers that
manufacture drones, missiles,
and other weapons used in the
war against Hamas.
John C Dvorak: Stop Stop, stop,
stop. I want to take a kind of a
look at the terminology being
used here. Google's not
supporting them, they're
supporting Google. It's the
other way around. They're are
they giving the services away
for free? Is that in the
document date? No. They're
getting paid to how is that
support? I don't get it.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll tell you
my first thought when I was
about this far in the clip as
well I'm like, this is coming
from some other company making
Google look bad. Okay,
John C Dvorak: now you can play
there I'm sorry I run outside
okay, it's this terminology that
they're supporting this when
it's the other way around is
annoying. It's as though because
I went to bought some groceries
at a local store that the
grocery store supporting me is
they're not supporting me I'm
buying groceries from them it's
Adam Curry: possible that they
have a value for value model a
Google Play
John C Dvorak: will you wrote
that's a real possibility.
Adam Curry: Hey, hey Israel. How
about we just give you this
project Nimbus. If you feel like
it, donate something to us, give
us some time, talent or
treasure? It was possible
Unknown: that other obligatory
Cloud customers includes the
blank Bank of Israel, Israel
Airport Authority, and a quasi
governmental body tasked with
expanding Israel settlements in
the West Bank shocking. In the
last two months, multiple Google
employees got fired and arrested
after protesting against project
Nimbus, Google spokes person and
a qual check and a statement to
the intercept said quote, this
work is not directed at highly
sensitive classified or military
workloads relevant to weapons or
intelligence service. We don't
kill people this across Google,
we've also been clear that we
will not design or deploy AI
applications as weapons or
weapons systems, or for mass
surveillance on quote, earlier
intercept reported Israel's use
of Google Photos to implement a
facial recognition dragnet
across Gaza Strip to scan
ordinary Palestinians as they
attempt to flee the ongoing
bombardment. Okay, a
Adam Curry: couple things about
this one. Oh, wow. Well,
John C Dvorak: first of all, I
mean, before you go to your
couple of things, what do they
have cameras in the middle of
the rubble? Are you kidding me?
Adam Curry: Know what, I love
the outrage over this while in
America, the TSA has just
started scanning everybody
without you know, without any
just like, hey, we're doing this
now. We're just doing facial
recognition. Everyone's like,
oh,
Unknown: guy, but But Israel
Gaza.
Adam Curry: Second of all, why I
want to see all these people
divest from Google and Amazon.
No more shopping. No more Gmail,
no. Dogs. Where's that? Where's
that? Come on. This is cheap.
Diving.
Unknown: Back in 2019, there was
noticeably a lot less outrage
when it was reported that Google
and its parent company Alphabet
were working in ways that were
benefiting the Chinese military,
specifically for the purposes of
them tracking the Uighur
population, as well as the Hong
Kong protesters who were
protesting for their freedom
they are using but the yellow
people we don't care about them
similar services in order to
crack down on protesters there
in order to track people who
they wanted to put in
concentration camps. But yet, at
the same time is grateful so
that it was no longer going to
buy for a $10 billion US
government contract with its
military saying that what the US
military was doing was against
its values. And so I'm very
confused. Google's values
supposedly are when they
seemingly have no problem
benefiting foreign governments,
whether US allies or not, but
they won't even work with the US
government. Why are they here?
Are they an American company? Do
they consider
John C Dvorak: we can stop this
use your head? No, you can keep
playing it. I like it, but I
want to know what it is. I don't
recall what did you preface it
with who was this rising? This
Adam Curry: is the rising the
roll, no
John C Dvorak: rise rising.
Adam Curry: I preface it. You
didn't hear it but yes, there
was probably zoning. This was
yeah, she should be fired
because she's about to drop
young,
John C Dvorak: young black girl.
Unknown: I don't think so of
men. So why are they based here?
Are they?
John C Dvorak: young black girl
doesn't sound black. She just I
don't think that's her. I
Adam Curry: don't think that's
fair. I'm not sure I didn't clip
this because I
John C Dvorak: noticed that she
can. She's really poor. She
drops. She has some prompter
issues as she's reading away and
is a very this woman has the
same balm
Adam Curry: done with her. I
don't care black or white. She's
not she's off the show.
John C Dvorak: It's been
eliminated from the shouldn't be
off the show is what be?
Adam Curry: Well, let's now
let's look at the endowment.
This is it's all fascinating,
because it's not really about
killing people. It's not about
genocide. No, it's about money,
money, money, money, money.
Here's a Meet the Press,
Unknown: you hear a lot of these
protesters demanding divestment.
But they also will often say
disclose first. And the reason
why is because we just don't
have a lot of transparency into
what is in the school endowment.
So again, part of this is the
broader strategy among pro
Palestinian protesters to
boycott, divest, and sanction
businesses that have ties to
Israel now divest is the big
conversation on college
campuses, where you have these
universities with, in many
cases, multibillion dollar
endowments that they use to
invest in companies. So how much
of those invest? I'm so
Adam Curry: confused, that we
just gloss over this. Why aren't
they giving away free education?
The cup meal billions of
dollars, and they're investing
in the stock?
John C Dvorak: The wrong guy
here
Unknown: are going into
businesses that have ties to
Israel. Well, let's take a look
at some of the this is
Adam Curry: why Eisenhower said
the military or you didn't say
it, but it was in his original
speech. Yep, I have to be right
there military industry, the
military, academic industrial
complex.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he had
academic in there originally.
And
Adam Curry: then someone took it
out and said, Hey, see this
picture?
Unknown: In your mouth, those
investments are going into
businesses that have ties to
Israel. Well, let's take a look
at some of the requirements for
how they have to disclose any
sort of holdings. There's a form
990 with the IRS that's reported
annually. This gives you the
broad mix of stocks versus bonds
that a university will be
holding it in endowment, but the
detail on specific stocks that
are being held comes from a 13 F
filed with the SEC. The problem,
though, is that that doesn't
really cover the entire scope of
the endowment, which in many
cases, as I mentioned, can be in
the billions of dollars, which
means it's largely up to the
universities on a voluntary
basis to disclose in their
annual reports. What's actually
in there. I
Adam Curry: think we should
crack this open. We should know
what these universities are
doing it all this money and how
does it benefit the children?
Well, it's not obviously because
they're retarded. The stuff
they're doing, like, oh,
billions of dollars and
endowments, trashcan, man, come
on. This is crazy.
Unknown: Man and Ryan, I'll give
you an example of one
university. Again, Columbia
University getting a lot of
scrutiny over all this when you
look at the endowment. We're
talking about a university that
has $13.6 billion in endowment
funds. We talked about that. I
Adam Curry: mean, how many
children can you educate from
that money? 13.6 That's a lot of
billions 13
Unknown: app that discloses how
many securities and how many
types of companies are investing
in, it covers only 68 million
with an M, which means that the
number of stocks that you know,
Columbia has invested in through
their endowment. It's only about
point 5% So 99.5% of the
endowment funds. We don't know
about we don't know if they are
or aren't in any sort of
companies that have attachments
to Israel. So that's where
protesters asking for they're
asking for more disclosure of
the nature of those investments
before they then ask them to
divest from those funds but the
status quo there's not a lot of
transparency into these
endowments right okay.
Adam Curry: So so their protests
are this whole BDS boycott
divest and sanction has been
based on stuff they don't even
know this we know it we know
your hide and secret secret Did
you payments we know it? What if
it is this? They don't even know
this? No one seems to know. No.
Oh, I find this highly highly
irregular suspicious, suspicious
and then so now when you think
about it, if it's all about hey,
you're giving money to these
Israeli companies, then isn't it
interesting
John C Dvorak: when you know
you're not give it Okay, first
of all, it's okay. I'd help
these I've helped me about
terms. I helped me out you're
not giving money to Israeli
companies. You're investing Oh,
invest usually open markets,
stock market stuff investing.
Adam Curry: That's a good point.
And give me a giveaway. It's not
a gimme. Okay, you're investing
Good point. Because that's what
a school should do. A school
should be there to make money
for itself. Today.
John C Dvorak: I am all for I'm
with you on this this thesis.
harvest numbers are
unbelievable. All these big
universities have these large
endowment usually they by
soaking the alumni they call the
alumni up constantly. I used to
get called all the time from
Cow, except once I told them one
thing, and that was I got put on
the blacklist. I haven't been
called for years. What did you
tell them? I said, you know, I
noticed that last year you guys
gave a Brock Obama campaign a
million dollars of this sort of
money. Why am I giving you money
so I can go to brocco bomb, I
don't support the guy. And that
never got called off
Adam Curry: the list. off the
list. Did you get to TP during
during how?
John C Dvorak: Pretty bad but
when? When
Adam Curry: you think about
what's about yesterday, so
clearly there's the protesters
want to hurt the companies that
are being invested in? Doesn't
if I just draw the logical
conclusion, right? Yes. Okay. So
then, now we have to look at
who's funding these things,
because they're clearly short on
the stocks or something. Both
Unknown: sides of this are
apparently being funded by quite
wealthy people. You have Jerry
Seinfeld's wife apparently
helping to organize a pro Israel
protests are
Adam Curry: married to Shana, is
he still married to her? Or has
he gotten a new wife in the
meantime?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Yeah, that's gotta
Adam Curry: be promotion for his
movie.
Unknown: Bill Ackman and other
celebrities or I guess wealthy
people have helped to donate to
that party fund for the UNC
fraternity that was seen
protecting the American flag.
And then on the pro Palestine
side Students for Justice in
Palestine, of course receives
funding from some Soros
foundations from the Rockefeller
Brothers Foundation from a Wall
Street banker by the name of
Felice Gellman, the protesters
have been led by some people who
are with the US campaign for
Palestinian rights, which
receives stipends from some of
those same progressive
billionaires to go on to campus
and help these students organize
their protest. They have
received pro bono legal advice
from the Palestine Legal Group.
So across the board, and we
can't just say that all of this
is pure grassroots campaigning
done by the students. For the
students. There's outside
influence, both on the pro
Palestinian and the pro Israel
side. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think that's what
broke all of this because no
one's taking it seriously
anymore. Everyone's like, Oh,
okay. It's these these investors
on this side, fighting those
investors on the other side.
That's all I can see. Now,
billionaires, how do you become
a billionaire? Well, you make a
lot of money, and then you
invested in the companies, I
guess?
John C Dvorak: Well, you would
take the if you were wanted to,
you could if you could get
everyone to divest and you are
on the short side, you can make
money. And then you can let it
all go back to normal. You can
make money that way. It is what
Soros
Adam Curry: typically Soros is
made of shorting shorting
currencies
John C Dvorak: is shorter, and
he is also placed currencies.
He's really made more money off
currencies than anyone could
possibly do. Especially if you
read his books. He's got a lot
of tips on how to do this and a
lot of it has has to do with
being completely manipulative.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's always he's
short on a country. It's like
Americana, short American now.
It's time to take that dot. And
of course, he's really not doing
this anymore. It's his boys. Who
might Aberdeen's boyfriend? He's
the He's the new face. What says
I've got you on financial stuff,
Jonathan
John C Dvorak: or something?
Whatever is no, that's not his
name. Jonathan Soros. Oh, it's
Adam Curry: not Jonathan. It's
Alex. Alex, Alex, Alex Soros,
Unknown: Alex Soros.
Adam Curry: So you probably saw
this hilarious video of Jared
Bernstein. This the the chairman
or the CEO of the Council of
Economic Advisers for the
President. You saw this video.
John C Dvorak: I passed through
it a couple of times. I haven't
really sat down and looked at it
if you haven't played it, of
course,
Adam Curry: of course, because
everyone's that you're talking
about me you should get a HEPA
filter. Stick your head in that
to cedar closet. Right up.
Everyone's laughing man
John C Dvorak: and white in
Adam Curry: the cedar closet? I
don't know maybe. So everyone's
laughing at this video. And it
is laughable because the guy
cannot explain how we print
money and we borrow money. But
then why do we even have taxes?
What? And he gets so confused
and I try I'm trying to track
down same again, Jared
Bernstein. He really is the guy
and he's he talks a big game
about inflation. He's on the
White House lawn, you know, he's
always brought in to give his
commentary. And, and this is
like the the season of reveal
Pinnacle when he can't explain
how our financial system works,
how we finance the government,
but very few people have
explained what's really going on
and I have great hope, great
hope that we can you can explain
this. So we understand so we can
put you up for Chairman of the
Economic Council of Advisors for
the president because this guy
is a numb nut.
Unknown: And the US government
can't go bankrupt because we can
print or on money.
It obviously begs the question,
why exactly? Are we borrowing in
a currency that we print
ourselves and waiting for
someone to stand up and say, Why
do we borrow our own currency in
the first place?
Like you said, they print the
dollar. So why why does the
government even borrow? Well,
the so the I mean, again, some
of the language that the MN some
of the language and concepts are
just confusing. I mean, the
government definitely prints
money. And it definitely lends
that money, which is why the
government definitely prints
money, and then it lends that
money by by selling bonds. Is
that what they do? They, they,
yeah, they, they, they sell
bonds? Yeah, they sell bonds,
right? Because they sell bonds,
and people buy the bonds and
lend them the money. Yeah. So a
lot of times, a lot of times, at
least to my ear with MMT, the
language and the concepts can be
kind of unnecessarily confusing,
but there is no question that
the government prints money, and
then it uses that money to buy.
So yeah, I guess I'm just I
can't really talk. I don't get
it. I don't know what they're
talking about. Like, it's like,
the government clearly prints
money. It does it all the time,
and it clearly borrows.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having
this that in depth conversation.
So I don't think there's
anything confusing there.
Adam Curry: So this is Hilarity
for all and I'm gonna, I'm gonna
take a little guess here, I'm
gonna guess that this guy
doesn't understand, which is
amazing. If you're the chairman
and CEO of the economic council
of advisors to the President,
that he doesn't understand that
the Federal Reserve who creates
money with the banking system is
not a government institution.
Unknown: No. So
Adam Curry: can you can you
explain simply to us all, just
John C Dvorak: the simplest way
is that you have credits and
debits or to balance the budget,
they have the same amount of
money out there that you have
credits debits for and you so
you, you create a billion
dollars with the bonds and sell
them and that money goes into
the into circulation. It's the
only simplest way of looking at
the way I see it. So
Adam Curry: we, we sell a bond
and then that bond, the Fed then
prints that bond in dollars.
John C Dvorak: But people owe
that money back.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well,
yeah. The people, the people Oh,
that was mostly
John C Dvorak: the people that
buy the bonds. I mean, people,
everyone like say, Well, China,
you know, today, yeah, a lot of
foreigners buy the bonds, too,
because they're good. It's a
good bond, and it has an
interest that pays interest.
Yeah. And oh, yeah, supposed to
be the inflation rate at the
most risk is always higher, of
course, which means you're
getting inflation. So that is a
bid system is builds it builds
inflation in
Adam Curry: so how, why do we
pay taxes
John C Dvorak: to help because
there is missing money? Because
somewhere along the line, we
didn't make this debit credit
thing balanced out. It's never
balanced. There was supposed to
be balanced, it would if they
put a constitutional amendment
to balance it that you wouldn't
have this issue. You probably
wouldn't need to pay taxes, but
then we'd all be broke that we
wouldn't be any potholes fixed,
and they're not potholes anyway.
They send the money to Ukraine.
Okay, I got the answers. Why do
we pay tax? This is not a good
system. Okay, no, it's a great
system. We pay taxes to support
the military industrial complex.
That
Adam Curry: is that's exactly
literally where our money goes
and to pay off the rent the
interest the interest of the
money, we earn the interest for
them did
John C Dvorak: the bond money
mismatch?
Adam Curry: Is this a
sustainable system?
John C Dvorak: Long term going
for a long time? It's been going
since? I'd say since 1913. Yes,
that's that would be the correct
date. Yes, it's been sustainable
with a couple of with a couple
of hiccups like that little
Adam Curry: hiccup where we had
to confiscate everybody's gold.
That was one hiccup was that's
one he had ca 1971 Hiccup
John C Dvorak: is dropping gold
altogether from the calculation.
That was Nixon's hiccup. The
good way to go real hiccups were
1930 Depression 1970s,
depression, the crash of
2008 2009 there and that comes
and goes COVID and COVID, a
COVID and the business the
business cycle, so And what is
the best way to get this keep
this going war?
Adam Curry: Wars good? Isn't
that what they always do? That
John C Dvorak: is Marxist
economy, a Marxist economists
that's their basis for making
these calculations. Yes.
Adam Curry: Oh, so you're Oh my
second so so the Marxist like
war because it helps them with
their system.
John C Dvorak: Their
misunderstanding. I don't know
if they like war or not, but it
seems that they might. But no,
they would they, when they see
capitalism, they Stace, they
like to interpret it as needing
wars to exist. We need to slam
on capitalism, but it's the
market but it's a Marxist
economic ish theory that wars
are benefit capitalism. I'm just
getting this from other
Marxists. I mean, you know, not
one beating did you have to show
me the other day? They were
bringing this up and get yet
again.
Adam Curry: I loved watching
some of the Berkshire Hathaway,
a big meeting in Omaha. They
have their annual meeting, of
course, yeah. Sad meeting.
John C Dvorak: Is monger still
alive? No, he's
Adam Curry: dead. Oh,
John C Dvorak: he died finally.
Okay,
Adam Curry: at 99 is and so
here's Warren Buffett without I
think he even referenced someone
as Charlie for a moment. He
forgot that he was dead. And
they have like $188 billion in
in cash. And Warren Buffett
saying this is great. We just
leave it in money markets. We
just leave it in treasuries for
three months, six months. Right?
Invest in the dumb companies.
But Warren Buffett Warren
Buffett Warren What about AI?
Warren What about AI?
Unknown: When you think of the
potential for scamming people
reproduce images I can't even
tell to say I need money. As
your daughter I just had a car
crash. I need $50,000 wired I
mean scamming has always been
part of the American scene.
American made me was interested
in Destiny's scamming. That's
gonna be the growth industry
evolves. I mentioned abled in a
way I you know, obviously AI has
potential for good things too.
But I don't know how you miss on
the one I saw recently. I
practically would send it to
send money to myself overruns or
some crazy country don't have
any advice on you
Adam Curry: know I think he
nails rambling now it went on
for hours but I think he nails
it though. All of this is good
for but he didn't quite nail it.
He said for scamming and for
comedy so far we have seen no
other actual use yes
John C Dvorak: for a lot art
Adam Curry: yes art you know 60
minutes that a huge thing whole
Randy Travis be thanks to AI he
can sing again. Oh boy. I didn't
know he could now he has had
some horrible illness oh
John C Dvorak: yeah was throat
issues Yeah. Well, I think you
may be summarizing I think you
might be on to something I
liked. That clip is almost a go
clip borderline borderline but
not because you could because
he's hard to hear him.
Adam Curry: Why can't help that.
The
John C Dvorak: idea that AI is
good for Kuma definitely yeah.
Did you see the bad guy there's
wanting to buy No. Pooping
Adam Curry: the best using AI
this year. We ate we need to do
the no agenda AI awards. There
you go. Best. Best category for
fake video goes to Cat term. Cat
term, you're
John C Dvorak: already just I've
been pushing for some sort of
awards, the martial
Adam Curry: arts. There's our
awards, the AI Podcast Awards.
We'll just throw podcast in
there to give it some validity
but it's not about podcasts at
all. Just said the AI Podcast
Awards because we do the awards
on podcast and we hand out the
best well AI and here's here's
this fake voice Yeah, best fake
voice best. And of course we
have to have an R rated
category. Best our rated picture
of Taylor Swift Taylor Swift its
own category altogether. Yeah,
and and we should say best AI
spokes hold dear members
Unknown: of the media and the
public. I welcome you. My name
is Victoria she I have been
created by the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs of Ukraine,
using artificial intelligence to
provide you with timely and high
quality information on Consular
Affairs. I am a digital person.
That means that the text you
hear was not read by a real
person, it was generated by
artificial intelligence. I will
carry out a number of tasks.
First and foremost, I will
inform the public providing
timely and verified information
from Ukraine's consular service.
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, it's Yeah.
Have you seen catch? Have you
seen her? Have you seen the
video? No,
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
her I know but you know that do
you have to remember that the
Japanese had an AI girl who's
extremely famous in Japan
somebody whenever a Japanese
produces can tell it can
remember the name of this woman?
Oh,
Adam Curry: I know what you're
talking about. Yeah. And it
John C Dvorak: was a face and
she was she was a celebrity but
she was completely computer
generated. But it was called
back then when she came around.
This is 5678 years ago when she
showed up. This was called
Computer Generated
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
like Man is the same thing. Max
Headroom?
John C Dvorak: Yes. Like Max
Headroom. Be one of our
celebrity judges
Adam Curry: Max head. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm one of those guys.
That think we're onto something
here. It's begging is the AI
world is begging for an award
show. Oh, yes, they need it.
They do and then they can we can
tell everyone Hey, listen. You
know, just in case you win, wink
wink nudge nudge I think he was
possibly you might have one
could you please do an
acceptance speech for us? Really
funny. So okay, well
John C Dvorak: this show is
going to take it to the limit
and a couple of things that
should be noted. One Yes, you do
that you bribe people with
awards to get them to speak
lifetime? Not right away but I'd
say within a couple of years
probably within three you'd have
you to get nominated. You have
to pay a fee.
Adam Curry: Oh of course no.
This is how it works now there's
an entrance fee yeah that's how
we make a reasonable fee Yes
$2,000 That's our that's how we
make money Yeah, and then we
make money on the catering for
the gala
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there has
to be catering there has to be a
gala
Adam Curry: red carpets
John C Dvorak: well I don't know
about that. I don't maybe we're
onto some of the some of the
guys who do this there are
Adam Curry: there are so many
companies now we were just doing
it virtual was save money there
are so many companies who have
it'd be best
John C Dvorak: to do a virtual
we're gonna have a real event
Adam Curry: best prompt jockey
think about and that's gonna
John C Dvorak: be hard to eat.
Here's the problem with that.
Yeah, I would say I'm worried
that we're gonna sell merch, the
merchants or somebody else could
do the merch. We don't have to
do we just job it out. But I
would say I don't like the
prompt jockey thing is going to
be tough because what you're
doing is you're exposing a boy
II to poaching. Yeah, okay.
You're not gonna go for that.
Adam Curry: But we can
definitely get a whole bunch of
comedians to judge the funniest
memes the the funniest video
memes the funniest now the
panel, and then you know, best,
best faked leaked audio like
that.
John C Dvorak: We can sit down
and do the categories. Okay,
good. All right. So it's done
deal. All right. Exit Strategy.
Beautiful.
Adam Curry: Now, no, I
John C Dvorak: think we can
still do the show.
Adam Curry: How disappointing
now. Now, let's just let's go
talk to somebody. Let's listen
to somebody who knows all about
AI, who is all in and actually
calls it the AI which I think we
need to start adopting. It's not
AI, it's the AIS. And that's
Bill Gates. And he's back on the
scene with the Hannah Ricci This
is his unconfused me podcast,
where and he's something's
really weird, but I mean, okay,
so it was always weird though.
He's sitting he has
John C Dvorak: a bit of a he has
a neurological disorder.
Adam Curry: This is something
with his right arm there's
something his his left shoulder
was up his right arm was he
never moved really his right
arm.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got
some he's got some some issue
and he also has fax. I think
that's Parkinson's problem,
Adam Curry: though. Sorry about
that. But anyway, we're still
gonna make fun of him.
Unknown: My guest is Dr. Hannah
Ricci, data scientist and
researcher at the University of
Oxford, also head of research
for our world in data. She's
just coming out with the
fantastic new book called not
the end of the world. Welcome,
Hannah. It's
a pleasure to be here.
Adam Curry: It's a pleasure to
be here. Okay, so now we're
gonna get into it about the
power of AI.
Unknown: Is there something that
you've changed your mind about
recently,
I spent a lot of time in the
technology world and I have to
say I was very stunned how the
AIS went from basically not
being able to read or write at
all, to doing that in a very
facile way. Still very
imperfect. But it kind of blew
my mind I had challenged people
to pass a test and thought they
might never at least take them
years, but within a few months,
they were able to do it. So now,
you know, I'm thinking about
Wow, how do we use this in
education and health and in
various environmental
challenges? So the power of
these AI is I, I miss predicted
that and I'm reformed. He's
Adam Curry: reformed he believes
in the power of the AIS. With
it's very weird to say the AIS.
It's like he's like talking
about the God's power of the
eyes of AI is I'm reformed I
believe in the power of the AI
is our new god. So what do you
think Bill was thinking about?
Really? If we're using the power
of the AI guys, any ideas?
John C Dvorak: What could Yeah,
what the mRNA vaccines now
creepier
Adam Curry: and creepier?
creepier creepier.
John C Dvorak: Who wants to
clone himself? I have no idea.
Close.
Unknown: Do you think AI will
play a role in climate action?
Well, absolutely. Because our
ability to model complex
phenomena
John C Dvorak: we hold on and
say stop the podcast. Oh, wow.
Adam Curry: He just pulled the
emergency brake.
John C Dvorak: Didn't Bill
introduce her? And isn't this
his podcast? No,
Adam Curry: it's that's what's
so interesting. I'm glad you
picked up on that.
John C Dvorak: So how did it
turn around or he's being
interviewed? Now that's kind of
a podcast host is that?
Adam Curry: This is this is the
new format. I think it's
revolutionary.
John C Dvorak: Revolutionaries,
Adam Curry: like what I give I
give him two thumbs up for this
concept. I like it. I like it a
lot. Let's go back.
Unknown: Do you think AI will
play a role in climate action?
Well,
absolutely, because our ability
to model complex phenomena, the
AIs are helping a lot with that.
So for example, looking at the
genetics of cows, and saying,
Hey, some cows emit a lot of
methane and some emit very, very
little, and some cows survive in
hot weather very well in some do
not. And then along with our
ability to edit genes, one of
the most dramatic source of
emissions that at one time I and
wasn't sure the path forward.
Now we can see either making the
cows better, or various
techniques where they they
create meat without the cow
Adam Curry: there it is. We
create meat without the cow.
There's even a new in the
Netherlands, they're promoting
farmer LIS meat, this is my
favorite meat without the
farmer. That's the way to go.
So, Bill is all in on the
climate change making meat
without the cow and probably
some more here. Let's see what
else Yes, even
Unknown: the weather modeling
piece. Now AI has been applied
to that boat the long term which
is, you know, kind of those
climate models, but say telling
the farmer in Africa based on
the weather, should they go
ahead and plant now? Or is it
going to be so dry? You know,
they use stories planted the
first rain, but if you know
that's anomalous, you know, then
then you shouldn't plant and so
the eyes are really starting to
help us with very practical
problems.
Adam Curry: This is bull crap.
John C Dvorak: He say a eyes he
Adam Curry: keeps saying the AI
I'm telling you the guy is
looking at the AIS as the gods.
He's reformed. Remember the AIS?
The the so the
John C Dvorak: tip. I wish I had
the Mr. mRNA clip that he just
did too. And for USA Today where
he's like going off the deep
end. Don't
Adam Curry: worry, there's more
because he has
John C Dvorak: to wait there's
more.
Adam Curry: So remember that
you're making cow mooing noises
It's a very inappropriate sell
AI remember that we just had
this bird flu scare which is not
over. But oh, it wasn't in the
in the ground beef. Ah, thank
God it might be in the milk but
it's in the ground beef. But
when people you know people
listened very poorly to the news
and they hit breaking breaking
breaking ground beef. Bird flu.
I guarantee you that people are
like, well maybe you should just
have some chicken tonight. I'm
sure want to have some gris
ierarh on chicken. I heard
something about ground beef. I
don't like it and bit and
they're all jumping in on it. I
would have to say if it wasn't
planned, ma'am. They really
picked up quick because the fake
meat people are back. They're
not going to give up. They're
all in including Bill
Unknown: are you what what
scenario where new data kind of
changed your your view of
things.
So my general framework for
change on many of these
technologies is that if you
generate alternative technology,
which is as good as the original
and is cheaper than the
original, then people will just
adopt it. And I think that's
true for energy sources. I think
people are not that bothered
about what actually comes goes
into the plug. They just want
reliable power. I think one area
where I'm a bit more skeptical
of that framework, nose and
food. Now I'm a big fan of meat
substitutes, I love Impossible
Burger beyond meat burger, like
I'm a vegan. So I eat this stuff
all the time, I think I had this
framework in my head that FDA
just got cheap enough and tasted
good that people would just make
that switch, I'm now becoming
much more skeptical that it will
be as easy as that. I think
there will just be this inherent
resistance for many people that
is not meat, so I'm not going to
make the switch. So to me, I'm
leaning more towards, I think if
we're going to see this large
scale change and dietary habits
and basically needs to generate,
you basically just need to
generate meat, which would be
lab grown meat, for example,
when it's not just a plant based
substitute for that, but it's
the actual thing, just without
the cow or the chicken.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that
this is not a coincidence that
Bill Gates and he's clearly
interested in anything modifying
cow she's like, Nah, now we just
need to go to lab grown meat,
and it's on the radar all over
the place. Good luck tops. Wha?
Hey, I think there's I think
there's a path for these nut
jobs. Here's Tom llamas with a
top story top story on NBC.
Unknown: I'm joined tonight by
Tom Ross Meisel. He's the head
of Global Marketing at good
meat, one of just two cultivated
meat.
Adam Curry: Let's just bring in
the guy who's the head of Global
Marketing. Don't you think
that's kind of suspicious?
John C Dvorak: Well, it depends
on what the story's about. Is it
about global marketing or Well,
it's about is it about this
meeting? Even news this is a
native ad is what you're gonna
bought to play? Yes,
Adam Curry: correct. Well, it's
because of a debates going on in
Florida meat
Unknown: companies in the US
that had been approved by the
FDA to sell their products and
Representative Dean black who is
a Republican member of Florida's
let's state legislature, but an
important but here he's also a
cattle rancher. We thank you
both for joining top story
tonight. I'm looking forward to
a spirited debate. Tom, I'm
going to play a video for our
viewers now that are great
John C Dvorak: spirited debate
as comma, this role. So we're
looking forward to a spirited
debate here on the TV show, walk
our
Unknown: viewers through what
we're looking here. So the meats
built or assembled, I guess, in
these
Adam Curry: were, what he said
assembled, he's versus is built,
then assembled, both equally bad
Unknown: built are assembled, I
guess, in these metal
containers. And then it comes
out and it looks just like a
fillet right? By that grocery
store. I would know the
difference. And if you're an
idiot, looks like a chicken
fillet. My question to you is
What does it taste like? It
tastes like chicken.
Adam Curry: People are going to
fall for this. John, people are
going to go I can predict it
right now. This global warming
nonsense has been going on for
In fact, I have a call out for
our producers. We have a best of
show coming up. For the think
Sunday the 26th. And Sir de
nonnamous has upgraded being
it.io. I mean, he has done a
phenomenal job. You can search
every single episode of the no
agenda show I did some and you
can do also now. sort those
results in reverse chronological
order. I would I'm going I'm
going to put together a global
warming slash climate change
special because already never
did. You just did Eclipse. Yeah,
but now but now you can get us
talking. And then there's a lot
of stuff that's not clips. This
just Okay, your stations.
John C Dvorak: It'd be a nice
show.
Adam Curry: I think it'd be a
great show. And I'd like
producers to go to bing.io and
search because it goes back to
episode three. We were talking
about this nonsense. And every
it's been the same for almost 17
years.
John C Dvorak: Can I Can I
interrupt your pace and flow for
a second place? We have to do
two donation segments today. Go
I
Adam Curry: know I was already
thinking about that. I just
wanted to I think we're just
back to two I mean, I love it. I
thought it would I thought
everyone felt very comfortable.
Here's what we need is we need
the art generate a generator to
come back online. Oh, is it dead
on the check if it's back online
by now? Nope, it's dead. Is Dead
Jim? No agenda art generator.com
is dead as a doornail. Yeah,
getting that Cloudflare thing.
Okay, so let's, let's just
continue for a little bit
because I think I can tell you
Well, how about let me see.
John C Dvorak: So the theme over
Your little presentation here is
fake meat. fake
Adam Curry: meat. Yes, fake
meat, which was precipitated by
the fake scare about the fake
bird flu. And so now the fake
meat people are out all over the
place. Tom, what do you see?
John C Dvorak: Oh, hold on.
Yeah. So you're equating the
bird flu bull crap that Ken
went? Yep. With fake meat. Yeah,
the impetus for fake meat as
part of a long arc cut
Adam Curry: set up a big setup.
Wow, Bill Gates has an
investment in fake meat company.
Well,
John C Dvorak: good for him.
He's bought time he lost on some
of his investments. Now,
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
take the other side of that, I
think that they're going to,
they're going to make it happen.
And, and I'm going to tell you
how I'm going to tell you how
first, let's get another one I
got, I'm gonna skip around these
clips, I don't want to bore you
too much
Unknown: to what culture and
politics would be at play here.
I mean, you you should ask
Representative black. There are
no credible safety concerns
coming from the legislature
about this. So you know, if
politicians want to say, hey, we
don't like this meet, that may
play well with some consumers.
But you know, ultimately,
consumers should decide what
meat they want to buy or not
buy. Okay,
Adam Curry: so peers. Now we're
gonna get some of the reasons
why we need lab grown meat.
Tommy says, Does the
Unknown: country need this right
now? And is would your meat be
more affordable? I mean, I mean,
give me the top three reasons
why America needs us right now.
That's a good question. Yeah, so
the the number one reasons
environmental, so we're growing
just the meat that is consumed
by a consumer, we're not growing
at the corn, intestine, or fur,
or tendons or anything like
that. So we have the ability to
grow meat much more efficiently
than the conventional way.
Adam Curry: Yes, we grow meat
better than cows, okay. And
that's going to
Unknown: be really important. I
mean, the protein requirements
of the planet are going to
double between now and 2050.
Adam Curry: Redefining protein,
as we suggested would happen. So
adding another
Unknown: tool to be able to
sustainably make protein is
going to be really important.
It's not going to replace
conventional meat. We're not
advocating for that. I'm
certainly that's not be expected
from the Florida Legislature.
But consumers should decide they
should be able to go to a
grocery store and determine what
type of safe and approve meat
they want.
Adam Curry: Okay, so it comes
down to one that by the sorry,
not
John C Dvorak: to interrupt
here. But I want to say that is
the mistake they're making.
Consumers will not decide in
favor of lab grown meat there's
consumers are not so stupid,
that they think that lab grown
meats better and all they need
is just a kind of a kickoff Hey,
you know there's amino acids,
there's all kinds of who knows
what mystery elements and, and
vitamins in real meat that the
body needs over it because of
evolutionary factors that is not
going to be in lab grown
anything that you
Adam Curry: are correct about
the quality of the products that
it will be very bad for humans.
You I believe you're incorrect
about consumers being stupid a,
a lot of consumers took a gene
therapy that it had no business
injecting into their body
stupid, I don't know depends on
how its positioned by the
authorities and the science.
Millions of people have been
psyops into buying an electric
vehicle because all it's going
to save the climate is going to
save the world is going to
change everything. And these are
the saps that are standing by
the side of the road when it's
too hot. When it's too cold.
Their car is worth 30% less the
minute they drive it off the lot
50% within six months. Yes,
consumers are stupid when lied
to, particularly by people of
authority like I don't know Elon
Musk. So what is the ticket? Why
did they what is the ticket into
getting the people to buy the
cheap meat? Listen to this last
clip
Unknown: right now? Is it
cheaper or more expensive than
regular meat? Yeah, right now
it's more expensive. We've got a
lot of steps in order to scale
our technology, it's going to
take a lot of time to get there.
But that's true of all new
industries. You know, when cars
came out, they're very expensive
cell phones, electric vehicles,
you name it. There's always a
process when you're scaling up a
new technology and
Adam Curry: what was the
solution for the electric
vehicles $5,000 subsidy from the
government it's coming for fake
meat. Guaranteed. If you buy the
fake meat, it's going to be
cheaper because of the subsidies
to the supermarket to the
producers however they do it.
Yes. I think that that is going
to happen. I know you disagree.
You disagree clearly Well, I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna give you a
little I'll give you that I'll
give you the possibilities that
they're going to chicken shit
away into this by giving away
money by American taxpayer
money. Need to make it so it
looks more appealing as
Adam Curry: we print it right?
But
John C Dvorak: even cheaper,
it's going to, if it's cheaper
disguise, you're going to be a
mistake. Because of the way the
mind works. It's going to be a
cheap lab grown substitute for
real chicken, which is cheap
anyway. But okay, let's just say
it's a cheap lab grown chicken
meat. And it's going to this is
cheaper so we can save a little
money here. Oh, I don't know.
It's looks cheap. It's cheap.
It's going to be seen as cheap
junk. I think there's a huge
hurdle to get over. If you're
going to pull this stunt where
you think you're going to sell
the public lab grown? You know,
some slush, okay. It's not it's
never gonna get this right.
Adam Curry: Have you walked
through a regular old
supermarket recently?
John C Dvorak: I walked through
regular old supermarkets all the
time. It looks like
Adam Curry: Disneyland. It's
nothing but colored packages
with sugar and chemicals. People
are eating chemicals and sugar
all day long. And you think, oh,
I want some good quality
chicken. Do you buy meat and
chicken at the supermarket?
John C Dvorak: I bought meat and
chicken at the supermarket. I
don't normally I usually just
buy giant slabs of stuff.
Adam Curry: Where do you buy
Costco?
John C Dvorak: I buy Costco.
Yeah, buy me a Costco.
Adam Curry: You are a discerning
consumer who's smart. You're
also from the silent generation.
You know, good
John C Dvorak: fam. Not from the
silent generation, my baby
boomer, don't take me with them.
I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. Mistake
mistake. I meant the boomer. Of
course, you're smart. But the
people who are eat it, people
are eating junk. Their sugar
addicts. They're gonna be Hey,
have you tried this new chicken?
It tastes great. Texture is
fantastic.
John C Dvorak: To the stock
market and beyond meats. It's
comedy on me. So oh, here it is.
Sorry, fake hamburger.
Adam Curry: They had electric
vehicles in 1912. They just
needed a reboot. They needed
Elon, they didn't have Elon at
the time that you cannot tell me
that the electric vehicle has
been a great idea. Can you think
so know
John C Dvorak: what it would be
if they did, they had the one
that they use the technology
which I think they're using in
some parts of China, where you
go, you take your electric
vehicle, you drive into the
recharging station, they swap
out your entire battery pack and
put a new one in and you drive
off in 15 seconds.
Adam Curry: All right, fine,
fine, fine. All of it sucks. It
sucks. It's no good. All right.
I just hope people go to beef
initiative.com. Everybody, make
sure you find a rancher because
it's coming. It's coming. And
you know, this is this is my
favorite. So they had on Dean
black some house representatives
probably from Florida. And on
the off chance that I'm right.
And about what about lab meats?
About people going? We're
John C Dvorak: gonna be lapping
it up. Yes,
Adam Curry: on the off chance,
he brings up a really good
point.
Unknown: There is a lot of
research and development still
to be done. And I will agree
that in order for it to be
competitive, it would have to be
scaled up. And if you scale this
up, that brings up my second
objection, which pertains to
China. Look, Communist China and
communist countries have a
history of collectivizing
agriculture and food production
and they use that to control
their populations. And for this
to make sense it will have to be
concentrated in large factories.
And look we are in a very tense
geopolitical time with China,
North Korea, Iran. And if you
concentrate your protein
production in a few major
factories you're a few missile
strikes from an instant famine.
Yeah.
I like that. I like that. I like
it a lot. I like it a lot. And
Adam Curry: then I'll just play
this final clip because anything
anything that comes from the
Netherlands is dynamite. You
know, again, we're redefining
protein. Of course I'm all in
with you that no lab grown meat
anything can have any of the
goodness that's inside actual
animal protein I don't eat much
chicken at all I don't trust any
chicken from anywhere.
John C Dvorak: I don't stress
that a chicken I don't
Adam Curry: trust any Sam you
trust salmon us trust salmon
from anywhere I don't think so.
We use what happened to Dame
Elise from She must have gone
overboard members she was Alaska
she would send a salmon from
time to time at least guard
garland Yarrow garlic yeah least
garlic and garland otherwise
Garling Garling
John C Dvorak: Well, whatever
the case is, they are still up
in Port Angeles. I think they
bailed out there overboard. We
haven't gotten into it. More
importantly, we haven't received
any lemon shallow for the last
five years or
Adam Curry: more than that. Her
limoncello was off the hook. It
was so good. Anyway, leave it to
the the farmer list meat country
known as the Netherlands. This
is really this is a marketing
campaign. Farmer list meat. Can
you believe it? Instead of
saying it's not actual meat,
though, it's farmer list meat.
Don't just forget about the cow.
We don't need to stupid farmer
is wooden shoes now and you want
protein. Introducing the Dutch
bugs burgers.
Unknown: At first glance it
looks like a normal hamburger.
But it's not just any old
burger. Because half of the meat
patty consists of ground up
insect larvae so Boksburg
nice flavor and I would
definitely recommend it.
Adam Curry: It has nice meat
flavor, so I'm going to eat is
very good. I would recommend it
to all my friends. It's
Unknown: a nice flavor and I
would definitely recommend it to
my friends.
The main ingredient and Barrows
BOXBERGER is ground blesser
mealworms, the larvae of the
darkling beetle. The production
of the insect burgers begins
here in the Dutch town of
Amarillo. The manufacturers have
been breeding insects here for
about 40 years nearly as animal
feed, give them cow feed and
afford the cosmetics industry.
But recently they've been
producing more and more larvae
for human consumption. He
performs regular checks on the
quality. What do you
Adam Curry: think the difference
is between larvae for animal
consumption and larvae for human
consumption? Is there a
different process suddenly
John C Dvorak: is you're making
me sick
Unknown: or larvae for human
consumption he performs regular
checks on the quality of his
worms. around 2 billion people
around the world eat insects
daily, but it's still a big
taboo in Europe within five
years. I think we all eat a
couple of times a year insects
and worms are sustainable source
of energy containing 50%
protein. They only need a
fraction of the space water and
feed that breeding higher orders
of animals require their co2
emissions are minimal. The
larvae live for three months in
these boxes where they consume
grain. When they're large enough
to be harvested. They're flash
frozen and shipped to customers.
smocks Kramer and Barish. Ozel
are the founders of Lux burger,
the founders first encountered
edible insects during a world
trip seven years ago. That's how
they got the idea to start their
business. When
we first told friends, family
and acquaintances about our
idea, most of them said we were
crazy that there's no way it
would work. In the meantime,
everybody thinks what we're
doing is cool. And the next
thing they say is hey, when can
we finally try it out the
ground veal words are mixed with
peas water and a secret spice
mixture burger will lead to the
greatest meat being eaten that
will be good for the environment
because less grain will be used
for cattle feed. And the insects
are also climate friendly. A few
restaurants in Belgium and the
Netherlands already have Lux
burgers on their menu. Sonic
hamburgers cost between 12 and
17 euros
Adam Curry: they cost a fortune
they're going to be subsidized
John C Dvorak: your subsidize
theory note to say is probably
the only thing that's gonna save
this industry dollars. So it is
I'll give you a clip of the day
for that one hour. Thank
Adam Curry: you. I found it by
accident. Someone some ways
John C Dvorak: the most
disgusting disgusting Clip of
the Day. And probably for a long
time.
Adam Curry: Our future is in our
future. Yes, they've been
promising
John C Dvorak: they they've been
threatening us with this
forever. Oh Carson shows I've
been watching and they've talked
about it and
Adam Curry: all we do is live
all we do is laugh then that one
day you're gonna wake up
John C Dvorak: one day you're
gonna wake up and you're still
not gonna eat. Mr. Devore. I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, you can't buy
any beef on your credit card
because you drove a Lexus. An
old one a dirt as a motor at a
dirty motorized Lexus, Mr.
Dvorak. Do you know how much
improvement we've made on the
Lexus in the 25 years since you
bought that vehicle? Mr. Devore.
You are a dirty polluter. Carbon
criminal.
John C Dvorak: Your current
criminal that's another good
show title. I'm
Adam Curry: just rocking it
today. You're a carbon carbon
criminal. And then I'm sorry, it
won't work.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have the
cars built before they put in
the advices that could not be
remotely shut you down. I know
Adam Curry: they're coming.
They're coming for you. They're
coming for you. And anyway, um,
that's it's just a it's just a
little just a little All I'm
saying is get to know a rancher
somewhere because when it comes
down to it, here we go again. It
looks no money in this for me.
John C Dvorak: There's no we
notice you get free meat.
Adam Curry: No I do not. I tell
you you should go to deal
because I'm not like that
ranchers can't get
John C Dvorak: away not like
that. No, I'm not. No, that's
how you and I differ.
Unknown: Okay, point made
Adam Curry: I just want you to
know there's there's no benefit
to me and if there's no benefit
to Texas slim or anybody else,
the ranchers are running at
capacity so you better get in
while stocks last. Otherwise
you're just going to be over
okay, I mean, I'm just here to
help people. First Law first law
have no agenda here to help
people. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I think that is
the first law have no agenda to
help people. All right. But I
got a bunch of different things.
I got Russia versus the Falun
Gong, which I thought was funny.
I got bank laundering I was
another bank caught being a
money laundering operation. Oh,
that's you like that? Yeah. Like
yeah, of course. Since about it.
Why did he is that your exit
strategy? Why do
Adam Curry: these guys launder
it when you can just print it
and just make some for yourself
and take it home?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this TD
Bank of all places, which
Adam Curry: is that tweet from
TD America
John C Dvorak: which is from TD
America or not? Okay, play it.
Adam Curry: TD Bank hoping China
launder fentanyl money.
According to the Justice
Department. The Wall Street
Journal reports an operation was
uncovered in New York and New
Jersey which laundered hundreds
of millions of dollars in
illegal drug money via TD Bank
and other banks. This is TD I
knew I recognize it from my day
trading days. TD is from td td
ameritrade and I believe they've
been purchased by Wells Fargo
and they had their they had
their headquarters in New
Jersey. These these these guys.
John C Dvorak: Let me see if
they are owned by
Adam Curry: Wells Fargo. So I
think you know they're in Cherry
John C Dvorak: Hill New Jersey.
Wells Fargo is the was the
they're owned by Toronto
Dominion that's outdoor T D
comes from.
Adam Curry: I thought that
someone bought the MCC I could
be wrong. This is according to
court files. And people in the
know Chinese wondering Charles
Schwab Charles Schwab. I know
that Charles Schwab bought their
trading operation I don't know
if they bought the bank is
according to court files. And
people in the know Chinese
wondering money laundering
organizations have gotten very
good at shielding ill gotten
gains. These organizations
launder cartel cash quicker and
cheaper than competitors, often
with a money back guarantee
during a hearing on Chinese
money laundering Tuesday right
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse said
that Chinese money laundering
organizations work with Mexican
cartels to move fentanyl
profits. The Journal reports
according to court files in 2021
federal agents followed suspects
through New York City streets as
they carry giant bags of cash to
bank and on occasion, David
caught suspects bribing TD
employees,
Unknown: they can, you know make
them look the other way. When
opening bank accounts using a
fictitious high quality Chinese
passports. federal
Adam Curry: investigator Ricardo
mayoral told lawmakers he's
often seen these organizations
engaging in bribery, which
bypasses traditional detection
systems. So these guys also,
they own the Nordstrom credit
card. They own the target credit
card. This is quite the
operation. I'm digging this
John C Dvorak: in for it and 50
billion in assets. And
Adam Curry: what's this anywhere
on the quote unquote, mainstream
news I have not heard of this.
at all in the Justice Department
probe, the Chinese laundering
organization offered $57,000 in
bribes to TD employees. This
included gift cards, the
organization moved at least $653
million to 1000s of entities in
the US and Hong Kong. According
to court documents. The Justice
Department is also investigating
TD Bank for three other
instances of money laundering, a
Canadian regulator find it
nearly $7 million on Wednesday,
TD Bank said Thursday it's
cooperating with law enforcement
and strengthening its anti money
laundering program. Yeah, but
people people buying a $3 of
Bitcoin go arrest them, please
because you know that's how
criminals operate. Ignore the
guys with the fake passports
carrying bags of money down the
street. The American dollar is
still the best for corruption.
It's still the best criminal
activity with the Best,
John C Dvorak: it's the bet.
Well, you've always had this
thesis and I kind of agree with
it is very much proven true in
the first Cocaine Cowboys movie
which people should see great
movie was discussed the fact
that half the banks in Florida
were more or less supported as
money laundering operations for
the cocaine trade back in the
70s. And 80s. Great,
Adam Curry: great, great movie.
Yes, it's a great, great base of
recommender as a recommender for
a second version,
John C Dvorak: not so much.
Adam Curry: I never even watch
that. Just the original.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh days
money laundering. Yes. We're
back major bank, not a slouch,
but
Adam Curry: old school with bags
of cash. I mean, you've gotta
hand it to them that that's
that's very good. I like it.
Good work, boys.
John C Dvorak: What else you
got? Well, we have another
congressman to talk about
corruption. I think this is the
Congressman that was caught VMC
it's an OTC Yeah. This
Adam Curry: is why it's one of
ours. One of our Texas homeboys.
Democratic
Unknown: Congressman Henry
Cuellar of Texas and his wife
have been indicted on conspiracy
and bribery charges. The Justice
Department says the case
involves the couple's ties to
Mexico and Azerbaijan. The
indictment says Quasar and his
wife accepted nearly $600,000 in
bribes from an Azerbaijan
controlled energy company and a
bank in Mexico from 2014 to
2021. And exchange were
allegedly agreed to help
Azerbaijan and the Mexican bank
by advancing their interests in
Congress. Were was at one time
the co chair of the
congressional Azerbaijan caucus.
And Diane says Claire agreed to
influence bills favorable to
Azerbaijan and deliver a pro
Azerbaijan speech on the House
floor. Federal disclosures show
that the Congressman traveled to
Adam Curry: excellent This is
excellent is this is
John C Dvorak: a guy quit er who
is Mexican American. Yeah. Or
just American. But he's, yeah,
he's really closer to Mexico
than he's in Texas. And he
somehow is representing
Azerbaijan. And nobody's a
little bit what what's going on
with this guy?
Adam Curry: Because everyone in
Congress is on the take
somewhere? Yes, well, it looks
like and what I would hope is
that people who just meme about
this and of course, there's a
lot of a lot of people who are
not fans of the Democrat Party,
go do that know what it is
corrupt people, once you go and
vote
John C Dvorak: going below the
Republicans who are in the same,
the Republicans who voted for
the big bill and all the rest of
it. I
Unknown: want to talk about that
too. Well, disclosers, a show
that the Congressman traveled to
Azerbaijan and 2013 Two years
later, quasars office announced
an agreement between a Texas
University and an organization
called the assembly of friends
of Azerbaijan. The Justice
Department to the couple
surrender to authorities today,
and were taken into custody.
Adam Curry: But see, this is
actually a follow up this. This
is the whole thing. It's like
when someone is hanging out with
the representatives from
Azerbaijan. I mean, what how is
this the people's business? The
people of Texas? How is it
helping? How is it helping the
people of Texas?
John C Dvorak: Have you made a
relationship between University
of Texas and a school in
Azerbaijan? I mean, there's
something there, please.
Adam Curry: So you remember
Gallagher, Representative Mike
Gallagher? He's the one that
introduced the original let
steel tic toc bill.
John C Dvorak: Yes. And he had
y'all remember, and he had a lot
of
Adam Curry: lobbying money from
Google. And so I've been waiting
to see where he shows up,
because he said he was going to
resign, actually. He, he
rescinded that. And he says, no,
no, no, I'm going to resign. So
he's going to resign on April
19. But he moved his resignation
to April 20. So that he
John C Dvorak: could wait that
when some stock options expire?
No,
Adam Curry: that was when we had
the TIC tock bill included in
the military industrial complex,
defense industrial base bill,
the $100,000,000,000.95 96 Give
or take for Ukraine, Israel,
Taiwan. So it was so important
for him to vote. And guess where
he shows up? He just got a job
at Palantir a fine Military
Industrial Complex company. And
that's how it works.
John C Dvorak: I ran into
something the other day it was
sponsored by Palantir. And I'm
thinking
Adam Curry: I'm spook and here
and here we are trying to make
some money with this with an
award show.
John C Dvorak: I mean, we're
Yeah, but it's gonna be a
winner. It's gonna be a winner
jury.
Adam Curry: We're doing it all
the wrong way. I have a CBS
John C Dvorak: reporter we
wanted to be a couple of corrupt
jerk offs. Yeah, we could go do
anything we wanted. But now
let's talk about the set. This
is more fun and people
appreciate it.
Adam Curry: It is I was I have a
lot more for you imagine having
to be a crook having to be a
criminal. I mean, like, hide
money and shell companies and
being in
John C Dvorak: helping you like
this quasar guy. He got his wife
arrested. Well, that's what you
do. That's what
Adam Curry: I mean. Take your
John C Dvorak: wife with her.
I'd taken everybody with me. All
my relatives are going down
ultimately
Adam Curry: that what's the
Congressman Bob? What's his
name? The other Caribbean? Yeah,
he threw his wife out there.
Hey, hey, she set it up. Where
she did
John C Dvorak: his wife under
the bus here, which
Adam Curry: she did. Yes.
Awesome. All right. Let's talk
about because, you know,
obviously Mike Johnson got he
got the blame for I guess the
blame for everything. But then
the besides us bringing this
bill to the floor for for the
aid to Israel, which is the the
big was the big problem. Then
they said and you're not done,
son go out there and talk about
anti semitism being unAmerican.
And we need we need a bill. We
need a big virtue signal bill we
need so I got some clips. I got
I got a couple two, I'd like to
hear yours. Because no matter
what side of the debate you
stand on, Congress shall make no
law. What is the actual term to
John C Dvorak: look at? Short
and sweet? Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is an actual
term. It's not it's not in
French is in French? It's I
think it's in French. Congress
shall make no law now see if I
can get the Congress shall make
respecting us prohibiting the
free exercise thereof or
abridging I'm sorry, of course,
I should have no abridging
abridging the freedom of speech
or the right of the press or the
right of the people to peaceably
assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of
grievances. You know what, while
we're on this before, before we
go anywhere, since we're on the
First Amendment, again, Congress
shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise
thereof. This is the
Establishment Clause, which has
been misconstrued into
separation of church and state.
And would you know it, there's
an ad out there, there's some
group that is trying to promote
this, this podcast is brought to
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John C Dvorak: called ABC. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yes. NBC Pomi slash
NBC. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Because this runs on
NBC podcasts. It's
John C Dvorak: an NBC podcast,
atheist podcast, there's the
atheist podcast, by the way, of
course. I'm not you know, anti
Christian nationalists by any
means. You are I'm not and I
tell you this rich I was asked
by atheists a mile away.
Adam Curry: Code bond Gino.
Cool. So anyway, so the
abridging of what this the way I
understand it, and I have a
couple clips too, but I want to
hear yours first. This
resolution, which really only
results in boy do we need
Chevron Chevron deference to
come to the Supreme Court soon
resulted in a proposal for the
Department of Education to adapt
title six, very similar to what
they did with Title Nine where
they said hey, you know, what?
Is gender whatever you identify
as you can't be discriminated
against. So yeah, dudes, you can
go into the women's locker room
and toilets and all that. And
Title six, has now defined what
anti semitism is, and then they
bundle that all up, including
the illegal chants, which we
discussed, because somehow
saying from the river to the
sea, Palestine will be free, is
dangerous, very dangerous, then
it could spark something
horrible and it's like yelling
fire in a crowded theater, or
it's fighting words or somehow
they've determined that they can
write regulations. It's not even
a law but regulations against
this type of speech and I I
don't think either one of us
feel that that is a good idea or
constitutional. I would agree.
So where did you get some clips
from and what
John C Dvorak: do I got these
clips? This is one of those
discussions that take place on
NTD would they bring a guy in in
the yak, yak yak about, about
this particular thing with some
ideas? I only clip these because
there's points of interest in
here. Here we go. This is
Unknown: in di D.
Joining me now to discuss the
act is Jonathan Hoolahan,
General Counsel and Director of
Legal operations at Citizens
defending freedom. Jonathan,
thanks for joining us. Good to
see you again. Now. The House
passed the anti semitism
awareness act in a bipartisan
vote. It's now waiting in the
Senate. Now Congressman Mike
Lawler who introduced the bill
said on the House floor quote,
It is absurd to oppose this,
that it somehow limits free
speech, adding that calling for
death to Jews isn't protected
speech, it's anti semitic. What
is your analysis of this bill?
Well, this is an interesting
bill. I mean, you have
conservatives and progressives
that really band together in a
lot of circumstances under the
banner of free speech, which I
agree in some circumstances, and
here's why. I mean, if you look
at the Constitution, First
Amendment, Congress shall make
no law abridging the freedom of
the press, or freedom of speech.
So that's the first amendment.
Some of the critics of this bill
have said it's too broad for
each free speech will be
chilled. And it really is
outside the boundaries of the
First Amendment. That being
said, this is really content
based restriction. And that's
okay sometimes, right. Why
there's obscenity, advocacy for
breaking laws, convincing people
to break laws commit mayhem, all
of those things are exceptions
to the to the First Amendment.
I'm sorry,
Adam Curry: who is this?
John C Dvorak: He had to back it
up again. I didn't write it
down.
Adam Curry: Oh, how is this an
exception to the First
Amendment?
John C Dvorak: He said the
deception the first amendments
are things like threatening
somebody sending you know doing
advocating riots. Yeah, but
those are all exceptions. Yeah.
First Amendment then he went
into a whole bunch of other
things. I thought they were all
part of the I think they're all
exceptions to the First
Amendment, which is an extension
of yelling fire in a theater but
you can't you know, threaten
somebody's life. You can't these
are all First Amendment issues.
Right. But
Unknown: listen here, but he
says content based restriction
and that's okay. Sometimes
right. Whether it's obscenity,
obscenities,
John C Dvorak: obscenity,
obscenity used to be against the
law, and it's not will you know,
that's a first that's
obscenities
Adam Curry: obscenities, you're
you're the biggest violator.
What
Unknown: is advocacy for
breaking laws, convincing people
to break laws, commit mayhem,
all commitment. Those things are
exceptions to the to the First
Amendment fighting words piling
so it kind of falls in that
bucket. Now, the issue is, is
this content based restriction
with this bill narrowly tailored
to a compelling government
interest, that's kind of the
case law where it falls. And I
would say I would agree that it
is a little broad using this
definition. And they should
tailor it down a little more
narrow. To be very specific that
these fightin words are calling
for criminal activity. What
we've seen on these campuses is
inherent it's, it's not free
speech, it's violent, it's not
letting Jewish students pass all
of those things are not
protected speech. So I get the
aim of the bill but we got to be
very careful when the government
is trying to compel some some
type of content based
Adam Curry: restriction.
Alright, so let's just let's
just break this one down for one
second. From the river to the
sea Palestine will be free. Do
you feel that that is a fighting
word? That is a call to
John C Dvorak: do I feel that
way? No. Okay. I'm not Jewish.
Yeah, does that I can assume
that some Jew Jewish people
might feel that way. Okay.
Adam Curry: They can feel bad
about it. But that's
John C Dvorak: your feeling. Oh,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I
misunderstood it's about hurt
feelings I got
Unknown: expanding on the
critics side, Congressman Jerry
Nadler called the built
misguided adding that by
effectively codifying those
examples into title six, the
measure threatens to chill
constitutionally protected
speech speech that is critical
of Israel alone does not
constitute wrongful
discrimination. Help us
understand the title six that's
referenced here.
Well, yeah, I never thought I'd
agree with Congressman Nadler on
much so but under Title six of
the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
that ensures university or
college programs or activities
that receive federal funding do
not discriminate based on
national origin, ancestry
characteristics, those type
things. So under Title six,
those schools are already
supposed to be doing that. So
for example, if they have these
groups They're calling for
violence, they're calling for
death, Israel, all of these
really horrible things, then
those groups shouldn't be
allowed to exist on campus, they
should be investigated and
expelled because they're trying
to further a criminal act of
getting getting these, you know,
intimidating students those type
of things. So they shouldn't be
tolerated in the first place,
because it goes beyond first
amendment rights. So I do agree
that title six is a mechanism
already that already has
mechanisms that can be enforced
without adding to it. And I
would be very concerned about
giving the department education
more authority. Look, we've
already seen what the department
education has done with with
gender. I mean, they redefine
gender. So we're gonna give the
department education more
authority to to investigate
students, when they clearly
can't even get biological sex,
correct.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
Well, good. he redeems himself a
little bit here. Yeah. So we
have a gabot with his packs in
his Attorney General packs and
packs and the attorney general.
Yeah. So he's suing over Title
Nine and say, Now, we're not
going to adhere to that. We're
just not going to do that. No,
no, no. And then in the same
breath is like, May is Israel
Awareness Month like Ah okay,
okay. All right. Let me see what
this guy winds up with on
Unknown: that no Congresswoman
Harriet hegman says the bill
provides no actual relief for
terrorized Jewish students and
infringes on the First
Amendment. Washington poses
saying the bill would create a
clear definition of anti
semitism and US law and then
enable the education department
to cut off funding to economic
institutions that are found to
tolerate such behavior. Based on
that definition. Do you think
the bill will effectively
address anti semitism on
campuses?
Well, not not particularly I
think what will will address
anti semitism is having
Chancellor's and university
presidents enforce the law, and
not a lot allow these things to
get out of hand by enabling the
department education to give
them more authority. Again,
Congress delegating their
authority to unelected and
unaccountable bureaucrats to
conduct investigations is not
the answer. When the answer is
the rule of law and using the
tools that are already in the
toolkit. It is not lawful to
prevent students of Jewish
ancestry to go to class, it is
not lawful to threaten or
intimidate. So there are laws on
the books, and these
Chancellor's. And presidents of
these universities need to show
leadership and show courage. And
doing the right thing is not
always easy. But they need to do
the right thing here. I'm just
very skeptical, skeptical of
giving the department education,
more authority, more deference,
especially when it comes to our
constitutional rights. Oh, he
Adam Curry: says the word
deference.
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: I like that. Okay,
he's
John C Dvorak: back in your good
graces we
Adam Curry: turd. We totally
need to we need I was talking
to, you know, who came through
town the other day, we had
dinner, some drinks for his
birthday was the oil baron.
Okay. And I'm saying so, you
know, you know, we're talking
about what's going on. And you
know, he says, you know, should
buy any weird. First of all, you
said, all the Democrats he knows
and he travels in Austin. So
lots of Democrats. He says, All
my friends are like, they're on
the outside. Yeah, go Joe. But
they tell me they're all voting
for Trump. Because they don't
want to be ousted from the group
from their other Democrat
friends who are probably also
lying and are going to vote for
Trump. But he says it's actually
bad for us because if Trump gets
in, then the oil prices will
kind of stay where they are. And
they're going to start going
down. He said that if Biden gets
to go for another, another go
around. He says the oil prices
will skyrocket. He says it's
been held down artificially, by
a whole bunch of means.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
have asked him, I
Adam Curry: can still ask him,
so yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, the
production of oil in this
country is at the highest it's
ever been, despite what Biden
says, but it's a fact. Yeah. So
I think he's just saying it's,
you know, they're making a big
fuss about petroleum because
it's because of the base of
idiots. And because of the high
production going on here and
does and I guess cutting off the
Russian stuff may be affected
the whole the whole scene, the
price of oil is too high now.
It's not too low. It's not
artificially low by any means.
But he
Adam Curry: says it could double
he says it's crazy. I can see it
going up. Yeah, yeah. I'm just
telling you what the what the my
boy in the oil business says,
you know, I have no other
John C Dvorak: probably as a
feeling for it. He's in the
business after all, he told
Adam Curry: the EPA, you know,
remember they have all you've
got to shut off these things.
You've got leakage everywhere
and data
John C Dvorak: leakage and never
find theories that are Yeah,
product is just going out the
window he
Adam Curry: says that we have so
much basically just free gas
that is just just out there that
no one is building any plants
for he says we could set with
the week, we can't even give it
away. Gas nicaise natural gas,
we could power the country for
1000 years with all this gas
that we're not allowed to do
anything with. It's just that
it's just there. We also have
John C Dvorak: 350 years that
known reserves of coal that we
could power the country with her
350 years. Plus another 1000
years again, we could just be
going like crazy for the next
you know. 1500 years, it seems
and no one would blink an eye
but no no, no oil.
Adam Curry: No. Yeah. Peak Oil
by your electric vehicle people
John C Dvorak: ordering the grid
down. I'm driving around
yesterday. I mean, local, local
driver. Oh, here we go. The cars
that are parked on the street
and elsewhere. Where are you?
Where are they going to charge?
You have to charge an electric
car every night?
Adam Curry: Yep. Yep. How about
how about Los Angeles? You
imagine being on the 10 with
like 30% battery?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can
imagine. It's no big deal
because you're not moving. And
the electric car only uses
energy when it's moving. So you
could sell for hours on end. How
about your air conditioner?
Well, that would be chewing up
some gas and gas. Alright, right
Adam Curry: I got a couple of
clips here from from the nap.
The Napster judge nap. Now when
it comes to freedom, you want to
be listened to judge Napoletano
John C Dvorak: by the way. I'm
gonna just before you do that,
you know, you brought up this
idea of this group of people you
had a name for him that counter
podcasters or something
controlled opportunists that
couldn't Yeah, those guys.
There's another as a third
group. Oh, no. And Napoletana
was part of this third group and
he keeps bringing these Amrinder
Ritter he's bringing later got
Ritter I think McGregor
McGregor. McGregor is in this
third group. And there's a note
there's a there's this Larry
White, I think his name is
another expert or No, Larry,
some. And there's a bunch of
these guys. And it's like it to
me, you because that group that
you defined, I think there's
another group and I think that's
this group in the peloton was
right in the middle of it? Well,
I
Adam Curry: like him. I like I
don't like it when he has those
guys on because, you know,
people will say, This is great.
It explains everything to ours
doesn't explain anything. But he
nails this one down the way I
see this.
Unknown: The House of
Representatives voted by
overwhelming numbers to define
anti semitism in such a way that
if you repeat certain phrases
from the New Testament, you can
be declared an anti Semite.
Okay, let them say what they
want about me. Ah, but if you're
a college professor or college
administrator, or you're a
student on the college, let's
you say this, the college can
actually lose federal funds.
Now, this is not the law yet.
The Senate hasn't, hasn't voted
on its version of this yet. Joe
Biden would probably sign up
because he likes to curry favor
with Prime Minister Netanyahu
and his government. But I would
think that the first person
harmed by this law would
challenge it in the federal
court and the first federal
judge that sees this thing will
invalidate it, because Congress
shall make no law abridging the
freedom of speech basically
means that you decide what to
say and what to listen to. And
the government has no say in
making those decisions. Because
the whole purpose of the First
Amendment. This is right out of
about two dozen Supreme Court
opinions now is to keep the
government out of the business
of speech. He's a constitutional
lawyer he would know regarding
the House of Representatives
anti semitism Bill, did all the
members of Congress who voted
for passage of the bill violate
their oath of office? Yes, they
did.
Adam Curry: This the way he's
taking questions. He's taking
questions. Okay. I
John C Dvorak: want to say you
mentioned some of your youth
called this a resolution it
appears to be an act. It
Adam Curry: No, it's HR, it's a
house resolution. It's a
resolution that resolves the
there's no extra law being
written here. They're adapting
title six. That's just saying,
Hey, we think you should change
title six. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Department of
Education goes into the
Department of Education is
involved. Yeah, Chevron
deference. These people run
deficits got to get in. Sooner
than later they'd knock this
crap off.
Adam Curry: Let me just say
Congress would impress me. If
they said we're writing a law a
bill a law that says you cannot
say this then you would impress
me with your big mouth but know
what they're doing is yeah, we
gave Jamie usually change a
bikini him because they don't
have the balls because they know
it's completely
unconstitutional. So it's a
resolution that says, Department
of Education, you should change
that
Unknown: great question that
violated their oaths of office
because every twice a month I
did when I became a state judge
in New Jersey the President did
when he became president, a
school board janitor takes and
that is fidelity to the
Constitution, which includes the
First Amendment, not the
Constitution as they want it to
be. But the Constitution as the
courts have interpreted. Great
question. Okay,
Adam Curry: we'll do one more.
And then we're done with and
under HR
Unknown: 6090. The New Testament
is anti semitic hate speech. How
can you swear on the Bible in
court now? How can they swear on
the Bible when they take their
oath of office? Great question.
And great observation. Great
question. Statements made in the
New Testament, Matthew, Mark,
Luke, and John, the Acts of the
Apostles and St. Paul's letters,
to the Hebrews to the Romans to
the Colossians. to the
Thessalonians. All of that is
hate speech under this
despicable legislation that the
House of Representatives passed
yesterday. I don't think the
Senate is going to pass it. And
it is inconceivable to me that a
judge would allow it to last,
the first judge before whom it's
challenged will enjoin its
enforcement immediately.
Adam Curry: So I'm just helping
me here, John, I'm reading hr
6090 House resolution. It says
at the top enact but this an axe
is the acting, that doesn't mean
it's law just helped me
understand make sure I'm saying
this right. And it says to
provide for the consideration of
a definition, consideration not
this is what we define it as
consideration of a definition of
anti semitism set forth by the
International House of Pancakes,
a Holocaust Remembrance Alliance
for the enforcement of federal
anti discrimination laws
concerning education programs or
activities, and for other
purposes. So they're asking for
consideration of a definition.
John C Dvorak: They're they're
designing something to throw it
to department, I think he would,
he said was right. They're
designing something to throw it
to her at the Department of
Education to make them do a
bunch of differences, you know,
bunch of different Yes, rules, a
bunch of rules. And the rules
are only apply that the rules
are designed to apply to the
colleges, they get federal
funding, so they can hold the
sword of Damocles over their
heads. Exactly. And dig and let
them do their own thing. I mean,
I think everybody's right,
you're right. He's right. And
this is just a chicken kind of
approach. Do not want to do
anything, but you know, pass on
it here. You guys go do this for
us. Yeah. So we don't have to do
exactly. So we, we can look good
in the process by voting. Yes.
Adam Curry: And I will just
remind everybody, Chevron
deference, Jeff, Chevron,
Chevron, Chevron deference,
Chevron, Chevron deference is
under review, we'll come up with
the Supreme Court and what that
will force is a complete redo of
how laws are written. So laws
will
John C Dvorak: be agencies.
Yeah. So the agencies basically
will no
Adam Curry: longer be able to
interpret the laws, the laws
will be sent back to Congress,
and they will have to define
exactly what the law is and not
leave it up to the agencies
which would, which would save
our country? If if, if, if if,
John C Dvorak: and of course,
the irony, remained, because I
think I wrote this up in his
substack. The irony is that the
is all began during the Reagan
administration. Yes, during a
case where the EPA was because
Reagan told the EPA to back off.
And so they started changing
their rules, they backed off and
they got sued by a by a climate
change on you know, grew I've
some climate people, climate
critters, it was a lawsuit, and
it was, it was against Chevron
for not having to follow the
older rules, because the EPA
backed off and they and they
would of course, decide, hey,
the EPA, it's up to them, they
can do whatever they want. And
if they back off on their on the
rules and make things easier on
Chevron, that's just too bad.
That's just the way it is. It
became known as the Chevron
deference. But then it know that
it became an issue once they
went the other way. And they did
damage this. The problem is
Republicans and Democrats, the
Democrats get in and they crank
the rules up in the other
direction. And now our wishes
Oh, this is bad. What was fine
during the Reagan
administration, but now it's
bad. Okay. Exactly. It's kind of
it's a basic path
Adam Curry: to healing. It would
be it would be healing for our
country.
John C Dvorak: But it's but in
reality, this shouldn't be for
that case, which was in the 80s
it Congress had a little more
responsibility and then handing
everything off to these these
bloated was a kangaroo court
that was part of that system.
bloated you were part of it.
Yeah when I was in the air
pollution district it was a
kangaroo court they had their
own hearings and their hearing
board and you had to stand up
when the guys came into the
hearing
Adam Curry: for the guys in the
agency know your
John C Dvorak: court system Wow,
they all these agencies do they
have their own little kangaroo
court and they bring people in
and the next thing you know
there are so and so the head of
the whatever was called the air
the board and they get
everyone's stand they all stand
like it's a like a real judge
all hail all hell and they all
sit down and then they you know
you guys are fined a million
dollars for doing this and that
the other thing Okay, well, what
are we going to do about it
nothing.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
current say in the morning to
you, the man who put the season
the Karman criminals ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end, the One Only
Mr. John Cena
John C Dvorak: should see boots
on the ground feet in the air
subs in the water all the days
and nights out in the morning.
Adam Curry: Well, 1986 1986,
John C Dvorak: Sunday sucks.
Adam Curry: Well, I like all
1986 trolls who are listening in
some of them are in the troll
room trolling away. And I got
lots of stuff to say, especially
the last couple of topics. It
was amazing. And I want to
remind everybody that we have I
don't know, we wrote no one
really knows how many people
listen and downloads and what
and no one really knows. We've
never played that game. But it
seems like there's probably
hundreds of 1000s of people. And
we're close, like 900,000 people
on a monthly basis who listen to
this podcast. And we love
celebrating our executive and
Associate Executive producers
that balances out because really
only a couple of percentage
points of people who support the
show, if everybody this is not
pitching for this, because
that's what NPR does. And
they're about to fold. If
everybody just supported us once
a month with $5. We I mean, can
you imagine?
John C Dvorak: That's the myth.
That's that myth of that's
Adam Curry: the myth. Yeah. So
the myth, the podcast, but I
want everyone to know that under
the value for value system when
you do that, and people say I am
broke it. Is there not one
single thing. If you find value
in the show, if you're listening
to the show, there's not one
moment in the month, where you
can say I'm going to contribute
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priorities. I'm only asked
John C Dvorak: winless cap if
everybody okay, let's say I've
cappuccinos four bucks at
Starbucks. It's probably more,
it's more Okay, let's say it's
four bucks, though we go easy.
If everybody gave us for
everybody of let's say close to
a million people gave us four
bucks a month. That would be $4
million a month we make and I
can see where you guys think
this is possible. I know. It's
Wow, we made $50 million. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's not gonna
happen. We do exactly one month
of a show and retire. So it's
not gonna happen. It's not but
that's okay. So just from time
to time when when you hear us
asking for support. Consider us
do that. I mean, I, I live by
the same standard all the time.
People say, Oh, you got some
money for this. You got some
GoFundMe over here? I live by
the same rule. And honestly, as
the giving them makes me feel
good. I do. You probably don't.
Do you ever give money to
anything online?
John C Dvorak: I haven't gotten
to do the cash flow is so lousy,
horrible man.
Adam Curry: So to balance that
out people who clearly have more
value to give and that's just
because of their situation. We
give their titles executive and
Associate Executive Producer
ships, this stems from our, from
our roots from Hollywood.
Because the producers you think
that they're like producing the
movie like no call on the shots?
No, you're funding the
operation. So we have producers
who produce in many different
ways. A lot of ways and yeah, I
mean, we probably can't thank
our art. Well, we can thank our
artists. We can't do a review of
only say it's okay. Yeah, but I
mean, we're also not gonna have
any art 616 56 Johnson pivot,
very funny name. Artists.
Correct record, who I'm correct
record hadn't had a wind for a
couple of maybe a couple of
years. Been lagging in and
correct. The record came back in
with a very confusing piece of
art because, yes, we actually
use a piece of art that had kind
of President Biden's face on it.
And so Scarah manga, you know,
the Dutch guy, he's like, what
is what is it okay, now How to
Use to use a famous celebrity
John C Dvorak: get thinking
something that's an exception is
okay and it's going to happen
over and over again isn't as
faulty thinking
Adam Curry: it will Kenny been
in the same conversation she had
a right she says another fine
Dutch artist Kenny Ben says the
only rule is is a funny does
does it hit? Does it hit a
nerve? And I would say we're
always looking for something
that makes us laugh.
John C Dvorak: Would you agree?
Absolutely. The stuff that makes
it unless it's lewd. Yes. Yeah.
Because sometimes some lewd art
will make us laugh, but then
we're gonna probably in bad
taste.
Adam Curry: Congress is going to
outlaw lewd art soon enough.
Yeah. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: But we also
believe in and more or less good
taste.
Adam Curry: Okay, so true. It's
a fact we had a menthol Joe. But
of course, we know that
President Biden is pandering to
the black community, as he calls
it. Because it's all just on one
zip code. And, you know, they
were banning menthol cigarettes,
and, you know, so now, that's
the most racist thing I've ever
heard. Hey, hey, blacks, don't
worry, we're gonna let you smoke
them up your Menthols. It's
unbelievable. Don't lose the
black vote no, no. And then we
even had the hidden a little
thought little little cartoon
balloon there. You ain't black,
pointing out. So the hypocrisy
of menthol Joe made us chuckle
was a good piece. A you know,
correct a record is one of those
pros and just did a great job.
There were some other ones I
know that we that we considered
but no agenda rt generator.com
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that all of our artists do.
We're sorry, if it comes across
as confusing. But that's, that's
the art world, man. It's how it
rolls man. Hey, man, it's how
the art roll the art world
rolls. But and typically we're
able to, we're able to critique
all the pieces, but we can't do
that today. So thank you.
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Tommy hawk. from Iowa City,
Iowa. 504 24 I have a feeling
that may be $500. And he added
the PayPal fees. It's
John C Dvorak: more than $4.24.
Okay, so
Adam Curry: is there a reason
why 504 Because what was Cinco
Demayo, but it would that would
have been 505. So I don't know.
But he does, says ITM AC JCD.
Star Wars. Oh, I see. That's why
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Sorry to hear that. Thankfully,
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keep enjoying the best podcast
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you do. And you see that Mark
Hamill, they rolled him out
again.
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, Mark
Hanna. When they posted a
picture of him hugging Karina on
July Pierre. Ivan have so and
he's and he's also at the
podium. This is a violation of
the Hatch Act.
Adam Curry: Yes. And I can I can
accentuate that with let me see
I had him here. Using
John C Dvorak: the White House
podium to promote Joe Biden for
president is illegal.
Adam Curry: Yes. And then he was
backstage in the in the press
office and he recorded and
posted this with a with a
picture of laser eye Joe.
Unknown: Hey, I'm Mark Hamill.
And I'm voting for Joe Obi Wan
Kenobi.
Adam Curry: And apparently
they're handing out aviators now
as swag in the White House. Did
you catch that? No, I did not.
He came out with it with
aviators all
John C Dvorak: in violation of
the Hatch Act. Yeah, well, gee,
Adam Curry: okay. Well, Mark
Hamill, though is just like why
would you lend yourself to that?
Because
John C Dvorak: you like Joe Do
you think Joe sharp sharp as a
tack sharp Yeah. And he's hurt
back room so he gets to see Joe
and he's sharp is attacking just
doing the zingers out there.
Hashtag
Adam Curry: show art everybody
if if you're planning on posting
something that we can use the
show art hashtag show art
John C Dvorak: posted on the
master. Appreciate
Adam Curry: it. Thank you, sir
Tommy hawk. Scott
John C Dvorak: Graham's up he's
in Portland, Oregon. He had no
note I couldn't find a note
anyway. And he came in with 453.
So in Till He sends us a note
which we'll read later, we'll
give him a double up karma. And
yes, we will.
Adam Curry: double ups you've
got karma moving on with 333 dot
33. We love that sir EA of the
tax domain from Clarkston,
Michigan. And he says after
wrapping up the bulk of tax
season in April, I thought about
the attached explanation of the
US tax system, producers may
find it of interest. This
donation takes me past Baron
level. And he I will put this in
the show notes. Let me see. He
sent us. Let's see what he
called this. He called this the
parable of 10 men in a bar.
Yeah, it is a very long I'll
post as a PDF, but it's, he says
is one of the best analogies
I've seen to explain the
downfall of socialist taxation
policies. This is how income
taxes are paid in the US. And
I'll post that Sir, we're gonna
take a look at it. It's kind of
a brain twister, but when you
look at it, you go ha, ha, okay.
Why don't we just print it? Just
print it?
John C Dvorak: Sure, thinking
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Oklahoma at 333 Dots three,
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Season One guests include Rick
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Adam Curry: Yeah, well we no
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native ad looks like to me I'm
Adam Curry: with it. Yeah but
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opportunity to drive up to
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John C Dvorak: Arrow and hanging
out I
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Austin Texas right down the
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know, Ash Ashlynn speed. Our F
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she's out. It was an eagle
Canyon. I think racing today. I
saw that picture is a nice one.
Yes, she did you see the picture
of her with she's next to the
car. She's got an which has the
no agenda logo on it. She's
holding a can of gigawatt Coffee
Roasters coffee. And she's
holding up a Linda Lou patcon
sign. She got all the sponsors.
John C Dvorak: You get what
coffee? I'm running out by the
way boys like this. I love
Adam Curry: it. I love
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John C Dvorak: That was to hold
my beard. Then I got Paul
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It's a it's especially in the
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groovy. Africa news to scare
everybody off. Oh no. Come on
some African news. Come on. It's
a shorty real short. 39 seconds.
Don't worry won't hurt too much.
Unknown: The Russians are in a
separate compound and don't have
access to US forces or access to
our equipment. US
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
offering reassurances that US
troops in Asia are safe. His
comments came after Reuters
reported that Russian military
personnel had entered an airbase
in the capital Miami, which
houses US troops. New shares
junta has told us to withdraw
the nearly 1000 military
personnel the US has in the
country. At the same time,
Russia is seeking to strengthen
relations with Nigeria and other
African countries. Until a coup
last year. Niger had been a key
us partner in the fight against
Islamic insurgents.
Adam Curry: It's really what
what do we get out of Nigeria? I
mean, we we had a we have a
drone base there we actually has
John C Dvorak: probably minerals
of some sort I'm sure we
Adam Curry: listen to this. This
is I think a strategic we have a
drone base in Niger Francophone
Unknown: West Africa has seen a
series of regime changes and
radical shifts in policy
recently. French troops were
expelled from Niger last year
and now they're demanding US
troops get out get out the US as
a regional ally in its fight
against terror groups in the
region and operates a military
base and $100 million drone base
in the sub Saharan desert so
Adam Curry: there you go 100
million dollar drone base huh So
Russia is moving in at West
China and all of this is just
the bricks taking over
everything
John C Dvorak: get much
publicity for what they do they
do everything pretty much on the
side this May
Adam Curry: but I mean do you
think that the Russians and the
Chinese and are working together
to you know to take over Africa
and oldest minerals the minerals
John C Dvorak: well the Chinese
I think maybe somebody is yeah
Adam Curry: that the breaks that
we gotta be careful this bricks
has taken over we're gonna we're
gonna be out of luck I think so.
I think we're gonna be out of
luck stuffs gonna be bad
John C Dvorak: that's happened
could happen Yeah. Let's go to
Adam Curry: we just print some
more than the three by three by
the way.
John C Dvorak: Maybe the last
one.
Adam Curry: Why? Why maybe the
last one because
John C Dvorak: you know they're
getting cheated on like I'm
there.
Unknown: Because your haters
debridement JC D is failing
comparing story from ABC CBS
Adam Curry: All right. Well, the
jury is out we're not but you
know, the next three by three
could be a comparison in a
prelude to our award show could
be three by three of AI jokes
made about a certain topic,
John C Dvorak: or a three by
three of Joe Biden's voice. Yes,
Adam Curry: there you go. That
now you're talking now we have
now we
John C Dvorak: do have this is
about Biden. condemning the
violence. Here. He finally came
out and said something about
what's going on in the common on
the college campuses. It took
him forever. And so we know it's
got to be the big top of the
news now, so they get to do
three, three networks pretty
much producing the same story
with a variation always from
CBS. But let's start with ABC.
Unknown: Tonight the dramatic
images of authorities moving in
during the overnight hours
cracking down on protesters at
UCLA and driving them out,
continuing their efforts to oust
them as the sun came up.
University declaring this pro
Palestinian encampment an
unlawful gathering, calling in
outside help. Hundreds of
officers arriving in riot gear,
firing flashbangs and non lethal
ammunition. As officers cleared
a library where anti war
protesters had barricaded
themselves inside police
releasing photos of ball
bearings and DIY armor they say
were homemade weapons. Used to
force criminal charges. And
tonight authorities revealing
what they say has become all too
common outside agitators of the
12 people arrested in Portland
police a just for actually
students tonight after days of
protests across the country.
President Biden now speaking out
saying order must prevail.
destroying
property is not a peaceful
protest. It's against the law,
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down campuses,
forcing the cancellation of
classes and graduations. None of
this is a peaceful protest the
president condemning anti
semitism and threats of violence
against Jewish students. He also
spoke out against discrimination
against Arab Americans,
there is no place for hate
speech or violence of any kind,
whether it's anti semitism,
Islamophobia, or discrimination
against Arab Americans or
Palestinian Americans. It's
simply wrong.
Adam Curry: But why it is okay.
To say no white, white is okay,
no problem then. Take YT YT YT
can take it or you can take it.
John C Dvorak: So let's go with
MBCs YT.
Unknown: With the clashes
between college campus
demonstrators and police
reaching new heights today
President Biden condemning
violent disruptive protests,
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down key
Adam Curry: sounds more like
faster here.
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
Adam Curry: Did they spin them
up?
John C Dvorak: I think they, it
would be probably appropriate to
give to play him at one point to
speed that's
Adam Curry: what they're doing
here. They spun his voice up
below it
John C Dvorak: had to do a side
by side button could be
vandalism.
Unknown: trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm gonna
obsess over this. If I don't
just listen for a second.
Where's, let me get your ABC
report.
Unknown: Tonight, the drunk
driving them out continuing
their effort to oust them as the
sun came up.
John C Dvorak: Whereas a
university
Unknown: declaring this
Justinian
against the law order must
prevail. destroying property is
not a peaceful protest. It's
against the law, vandalism,
trespassing fashion, breaking
windows. That's the same as
shutting down campuses, forcing
the cancellation of classes and
graduations. None of this is a
peaceful protest, threatening
people, intimidating people.
instilling fear in people is not
peaceful protests
Adam Curry: against the better
question is Which Biden is it?
That's that's the question. It's
Unknown: against the law.
Nationwide,
more than 2100 arrests have been
made connected with campus
protests. Today. Portland State
University campus closed down as
police made 12 arrests and
cleared the school's library
overnight for arrested at Yale
90 removed from campus at
Dartmouth. And at the University
of Wisconsin's Madison campus,
defiant students re establishing
their tents just 24 hours after
police disbanded the encampment
there,
we're gonna be here indefinitely
until they meet our demand. Back
at UCLA
cleanup is underway with
Professor Graham Blair, who was
arrested this morning and the
encampment is defending the
students right to protest
despite some of the tactics
they've used. I
think anyone who is worried
about graffiti on buildings on a
college campus used to come
visit a college campus. It's 18
year olds who are learning for
the first time how to express
themselves.
Adam Curry: Oh, you put him
because if you put him to the
leftist generator, he stays the
same. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's for sure.
Now, these two reports are
interesting because ABC
concentrated solely on UCLA.
Yes. And ABC is owned by Disney
which is where UCLA is this the
call Hollywood, you know, UCLA
Westwood, as opposed to NBC,
which had a more kind of
eclectic look at all bunch of
different colleges. So that was
kind of an interesting
comparison. But let's see what
the big boys do at CBS the CIA
Adam Curry: Broadcast Systems.
Unknown: White House officials
say it was the sheer number of
violent encounters on college
campuses over the past two days
that prompted President Biden to
speak out
right to protest, but not the
right to cause chaos.
His comments came in the wake of
nearly 2000 arrests. More than
30 colleges and universities
start during the barricade just
today, protesters were ejected
from a library at Portland State
University that they had
occupied for three days. Inside
police say they found ball
bearings, paint balloons, spray
bottles of ink and DIY armor.
Vandalism,
trespass
Adam Curry: breaking DIY armor
that's the trash cans are
talking about is this DIY
John C Dvorak: girl that was on
one of these tick tock videos
that had a bunch of their
armored up now armored is
worried about rubber bullets.
Adam Curry: What do I smell?
That's my Armor Spray
Unknown: Bottles of ink and DIY
armor,
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down campuses,
forcing the cancellation of
classes and graduations. None of
this is a peaceful protest.
Like many protesters, President
Biden has expressed concern
about the plight of Palestinian
civilians more than 34,000
killed according to the Hamas
run health ministry. But when
asked today if he would change
his policies towards Israel as
the protesters have been
demanding, Biden said simply
know, the unrest is now
threatening to become an
election issue. Young people are
a key democratic voting bloc.
Biden needs to listen to what
the students are calling for
which is an end to a genocide
funded by the United States.
So first things first stop
funding Israel's in battleground
Wisconsin, Donald Trump argued
Biden should have spoken out
sooner. There's a big fever in
our country and he's not talking
but Trump also made this
unfounded claim about campus
demonstrators they do come from
other countries and
Adam Curry: they are paid
unfounded claim really this this
is what broke this whole thing
is everyone sees it now.
Everybody sees that half these
people aren't at graduated 10
years ago. We get cold Pink
Lady. Yeah, Madea she's running
Roman is
John C Dvorak: like she's in
their 70s or something she's
posing as
Adam Curry: you can just hire
her you're gonna hire her and
all her cronies go anyway. Yeah,
hold up the sign. Okay. Donate
No problem. Good pink meanwhile,
looks like no deal yet. No deal.
Hamas says What? No deal. No
deal. And Bibi says no, yes.
Well, I got a no deal clip. I
got an ace no deal.
Unknown: Israel still has its
sights on Rafa and we're no
closer to a ceasefire. Hamas has
poured cold water on the
optimism surrounding the latest
round of talks in Cairo between
their delegation and Qatari
Egyptian and American mediators.
The AFP quoted a senior Hamas
officials saying there will be
no agreements without a complete
cessation of the war and
accusing Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu of personally
hindering the deal. The proposal
on the table would halt fighting
for 40 days and exchange
hostages for Palestinian
prisoners. According to details
released by the UK negotiations
are set to continue on Sunday.
But Israel is yet to send a
delegation to the Egyptian
capitol. late on Friday, US
Secretary of State Antony
Blinken said accepting a
ceasefire deal should be a
quote, no brainer for her mass.
And the reality in this moment
is the only thing standing
between the people of Gaza and a
ceasefire
is a mosque protesters kept up
the pressure on Netanyahu on
Saturday turning out in their
1000s again in Tel Aviv to
demand the government except to
ceasefire deal and secure the
release of the remaining
hostages Netanyahu is found not
to stop the war until Hamas is
destroyed and faces pressure
from nationalists in his
coalition to go ahead with the
offensive against the southern
Gaza City of Rafa.
Adam Curry: You know and I think
I think the problem is Hamas
doesn't have 33 hostages
anymore.
John C Dvorak: I think they're
all dead but but that was you
get that clip. That's France 24
Because they get France they
kind of left it. They made it
sound as though Blinken set in
negotiations. He's
Adam Curry: not he wasn't even
there. Was he in no in fact, I
John C Dvorak: have a clip. This
is from Al Jazeera which kind of
brings in very interesting who's
actually at these negotiations.
Adam Curry: Let me guess CIA
tell me the CIA is there.
John C Dvorak: You nailed it
Adam Curry: well, what's what's
the clip what's the clip was
ceasefire
John C Dvorak: delegation. AJ
got it.
Unknown: Gaza where the
humanitarian situation across
the strip is getting worse by
the day there have been more
attacks, more displacements, and
more suffering. But diplomatic
efforts to reach a ceasefire
deal are ramping up all eyes are
on Cairo on Saturday where Hamas
delegation is holding talks with
mediators from Egypt and Qatar,
as well as the CIA director,
William.
Adam Curry: Now, we should
mention, these talks are taking
place in Egypt. And what neither
of these outfits are saying is
Egypt is very key to the
resolution of all this, because
we know Egypt has received 7
billion euros from the European
Union to build camps, which will
be you know, like, I'm sure it's
like holiday, holiday camps,
holiday camps, then they'll open
up their border, which is
closed, shot tight, and then
some of them will be migrated
into Europe. And I'm pretty sure
that pier that we're building
there for humanitarian aid,
that's where people will be able
to hop off and get onto a boat
and go to America. So Egypt,
Egypt is a big player in this
and it's not really discussed,
unless you have something in
this next clip, not
John C Dvorak: about Egypt being
a big player, but it finishes
off the thought about we have
it's actually this guy, that
guy, the other guy in this our
CIA guy, which is like, okay,
yeah,
Unknown: all right. The group
says it's studying the latest
Israeli proposal in a positive
manner. But sticking points do
remain. Israel wants the return
of the captives being held in
Gaza, and Hamas is insisting on
a permanent end to the war.
Those talks come as the UN warns
that northern Gaza is now
experiencing a full blown famine
and moving towards the south,
the head of the World Food
Program is urging negotiators to
reach a ceasefire as soon as
possible to save lives.
Adam Curry: Ah, do you know who
the head of the World Food
Program is?
John C Dvorak: I'm going to find
out.
Adam Curry: You'll be surprised
you're gonna tell me I hear a
Kobs Here it comes.
Unknown: I just want to be very
clear, because what you're
saying is significant. And I
believe it's the first time
we've heard it. You're saying
there is full blown famine? Yes.
In Northern Gaza? FBF. Yes, I
am. And there has not been an
official declaration that there
is known but you are saying that
based on what you've seen? Yes,
it is. Based on what we've seen
in what we've experienced on the
ground. Yes. Which is, it's,
it's hard. It's, you know, it's,
it's so hard to look at, and
it's so hard to hear also. So
I'm just I'm so hoping that we
can get a ceasefire and, and
begin to to feed these people,
especially in the north, in a
more in a much faster fashion,
but also including, as I said,
water, sanitation, medicine.
It's all part of the famine, the
famine issue. And it's also
something that we need to make
sure that the world understands
we can't let this happen. It
just in this day and age when
the when the world has the
ability to feed itself 10 times
over. Nobody should starve.
Nobody should starve.
Adam Curry: That was Cindy
McCain. Widow of John McCain.
She is the executive director of
the food World Food Program.
Keep them busy. Interesting,
isn't it? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I have a kind of
a side clip is similar that has
something to do with this
situation. This is the Houthis