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May 5th • 3h 5m

1657: Trash Can Man

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John C Dvorak: And out dressed in a chicken, Adam curry Jhansi
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Dvorak they may 5 2024 This
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Adam Curry: Year Award winning give me the assassination
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episode 1657
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Unknown: This is no agenda enjoying
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Adam Curry: a classic clothesline and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here theories and
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numbers six and the Morning everybody hurry in
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
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saying don't shoot your dog on Josie Devorah
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Adam Curry: was didn't make it through. I had no idea. I've
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been good all morning. And
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John C Dvorak: then oh, yeah, now getting the histamine up and
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you're going to be coughing all show. Oh,
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Adam Curry: it was bad yesterday. Yes. It's all of a
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sudden we got
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John C Dvorak: I thought you had a heap as all over the place
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that prevent that problem. No,
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Adam Curry: that would that was in the old house. Gotcha.
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John C Dvorak: Well, it looks like you need to move him over
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to the new house. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: It's crazy. You know, we This is unheard of this
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global warming is climate change is great, because it's been 70
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degrees for most of the week, which and but wet and raining,
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which we obviously needed to that's all good. And something
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happened and just a cycle.
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John C Dvorak: Everything popped at once. Ah. And we
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Adam Curry: also have this invasion of caterpillars.
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John C Dvorak: The biting type No, no, no, the
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Adam Curry: big thick black ones. They're just everywhere.
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It's incredible. And in the end, they don't sprout. They don't
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turn into butterflies. It turned into moths which is interesting
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because when you have cedars spraying everywhere you think
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that that would kill off the moths. But no, yes. Yes. No,
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it's not. I have a
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John C Dvorak: closet that cedar line just for that purpose.
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Yeah.
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Adam Curry: And what do you have in that closet? Your let me get
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your tuxedo collection.
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John C Dvorak: I have the tuxedo collection and other rules.
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Adam Curry: Since you brought it up. I I'm amazed by the outrage
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over Kristi Noem killing her dog cricket.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I think I got an earful from Mimi. Oh,
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really? Who owns a kennel right ad? Yeah, so she's a dog
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protector of dogs. She is horrible. This woman isn't I
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said everybody's missing the point about this. Everybody I
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think you probably do. Well,
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Adam Curry: how about this? How about I play a clip and then
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you'll tell us what point we're missing. And then I'll give you
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my opinion. All sides
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Unknown: of the aisle do not agree on much right now. But may
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have been united in outrage over South Dakota's Governor Christie
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knows on fashion that she shot her 14 month old puppy dog puppy
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because she couldn't change kill it. But she says it killed a
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neighbor's chickens. She defended herself though she
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claimed that it was tough decisions like this. That
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happened on farms all the time. And that she followed the law
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and was being a responsible parent. dog owner and neighbor.
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Nah. Which part was the parenting part? I'm keeping this
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to myself. I'm gonna let y'all talk. What is your opinion on
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such things? I start with you with the baby doll
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literally who's just over 14. But yeah, this is a puppy. If
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your dog is acting wrongly, it's because you were incompetent at
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training that dog and I grew up we have big dogs. Chicken and
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the dog did once get a chicken. Whose fault was it? Mine for not
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having the dog somewhere where he couldn't get the chickens but
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then what do you do you train them? And by the way, if you
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have a really challenging dog, there are countless
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organizations to rehome them to somebody who loves the dog
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enough.
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Am I want justice for cricket. This is
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terrible. It's a terrible thing just
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to name was was cricket. You know a sign of a sociopath is
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someone that kills animals. No, I'm not a clinician.
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No. But she killed her. Yes, for sure. All right. All right. So
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Adam Curry: I'd love to hear your view on this. This is an
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important news breaking breaking.
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John C Dvorak: My view on this is that I'm not even sure this
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happened. I think Christie gnome has to do something because she
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does not want to be the vice presidential choice and she's at
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the top of the list this did it. This took her off the list. Oh
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good. Without having to say no.
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Adam Curry: Interesting Why would she not want to further
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her career into in the Oval
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John C Dvorak: tightly named friends who said look what
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happens all these people get associated with Trump at that
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level? It's it's trouble. I mean, it may be great You know
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but then again it's you're gonna be in the middle of this and
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that no get out of this any way you can. But she didn't want to
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get out of it by saying no and then being on Trump's bad side
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she's gonna say I killed dogs I shoot them all okay, well we
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can't pick her
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Adam Curry: oh well that's very interesting very no agenda take
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of you there i like i like this Well, I personally think that
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she should just say this was puppy health care. I mean,
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that's what she should call it because you know, I love the
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outrage over some some woman shooting her dog because
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whatever but now Hey, just suck out those feeders. There's no
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problem that's healthcare please the hypocrisy is crazy that's
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crazy the hypocrisy Give me a break. Hey man that my favorite
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video of this week I don't know if you saw this. Were those I
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guess?
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I already you said proceed. Okay, you it's not
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going to be what I guess. What were you going to guess? The
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liberal filter? Have you seen that one?
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Adam Curry: No. What is the No I have not seen the live stop
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that's a video that's how
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John C Dvorak: does not the last person who retweeted which will
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be the easiest to find is the lives of tick tock has it
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somewhere okay, what is hilarious? What is it? It turns
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your picture into a U turn into a liberal I have
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Adam Curry: seen this Yes. No. That's not what I was going to
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say. No, I love that that protester the you know the kid
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who has like a bike helmet on and he has a sheer hurting me.
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Well, he has he has a shield made out of half a garbage can
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and you rollin know that one? Towards the cops and the cops
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just clotheslines. Just like it's like I feel bad watching it
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over and over and over again. But it was so funny. To so full.
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You
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John C Dvorak: know, this is from when I saw the kids with
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the half garbage can run in at the cops. It's like LARPing is
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it? What are you doing exactly what I was thinking I was just
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gonna say that it's LARPing at its highest level is amazing.
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I'm a knight in shining armor.
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Adam Curry: I mean, the derangement of some of these
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kids and of course they're just kids. I mean, what are you gonna
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do? They're all young people's did just that dumb sometimes.
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But the drains, sometimes they're dumb. Sometimes the
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derangement that they know that they've lost so much respect for
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law enforcement and police they don't even think it's what do
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you think it is like a cartoon? Like this cop is not going to
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bust your head like, come on.
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John C Dvorak: It charging good cop with a garbage can shield.
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Adam Curry: A bike helmet. That was the best. So yeah, so then
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my second favorite video, who would have ever expected the
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frat boys, the frat boys to be protecting the flag?
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John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah, this new trend. I
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Adam Curry: like it. I think this is this is interesting to
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see how we have within these in these camps, and these, of
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course, are privileged boys. They're all privileged kids.
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This is Ole Miss.
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Unknown: Gov Tate. Reeves also posted a video showing counter
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protests or singing the Star Spangled Banner in front of
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Palestinian protesters.
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surprised they weren't singing Dixie instead? Because you know
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they must be racist Governor reads the counter protests.
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Adam Curry: She is unbelievable. She isn't you can't even have
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respect for the Star Spangled Banner anymore.
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John C Dvorak: Not from her. He's gotta go. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Now well, she will eventually I mean the MO
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prophecy will come true. It'll happen and will happen they're
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all going to go all the DEI higher here you
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John C Dvorak: all stuffed up. I am funny. It's not you're going
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to use you plowed through the worst case of the flu. You'd be
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on the air. You sound fine.
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Adam Curry: I'm still on the air. It's just this whenever I
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whenever I project, then it just locks up. It's funny. I'm
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locking up, man. I don't know what to say. I'm locking up. I'm
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locking up that I'm glad you think it's funny while I go
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through this.
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John C Dvorak: I've never you witnessed this before? Yes,
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Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Um, let me say I have a stay on these
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protests because they are rather interesting. Here's something
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that it kind of hit me this morning about the Google
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protests First, I have a feeling while you listen to this. This
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is from I don't
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John C Dvorak: use this from a while back, isn't it? There's no
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new Google protests mod
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Adam Curry: still ongoing, still ongoing. There. It's not over.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, it'll continue until the ceasefire.
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We'll get to that to the
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Unknown: rising. A recent article in the intercept reveals
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that Google and Amazon provide cloud computing support to the
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Israeli military under what is called Project Nimbus, a
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contract worth $1.2 billion. The Intercept reviewed a 63 page
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Israeli Government Procurement procurement document, which
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showed that Amazon and Google support two of the nation's
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leading weapon makers that manufacture drones, missiles,
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and other weapons used in the war against Hamas.
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John C Dvorak: Stop Stop, stop, stop. I want to take a kind of a
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look at the terminology being used here. Google's not
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supporting them, they're supporting Google. It's the
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other way around. They're are they giving the services away
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for free? Is that in the document date? No. They're
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getting paid to how is that support? I don't get it.
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Adam Curry: Okay, I'll tell you my first thought when I was
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about this far in the clip as well I'm like, this is coming
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from some other company making Google look bad. Okay,
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John C Dvorak: now you can play there I'm sorry I run outside
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okay, it's this terminology that they're supporting this when
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it's the other way around is annoying. It's as though because
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I went to bought some groceries at a local store that the
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grocery store supporting me is they're not supporting me I'm
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buying groceries from them it's
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Adam Curry: possible that they have a value for value model a
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Google Play
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John C Dvorak: will you wrote that's a real possibility.
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Adam Curry: Hey, hey Israel. How about we just give you this
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project Nimbus. If you feel like it, donate something to us, give
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us some time, talent or treasure? It was possible
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Unknown: that other obligatory Cloud customers includes the
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blank Bank of Israel, Israel Airport Authority, and a quasi
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governmental body tasked with expanding Israel settlements in
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the West Bank shocking. In the last two months, multiple Google
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employees got fired and arrested after protesting against project
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Nimbus, Google spokes person and a qual check and a statement to
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the intercept said quote, this work is not directed at highly
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sensitive classified or military workloads relevant to weapons or
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intelligence service. We don't kill people this across Google,
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we've also been clear that we will not design or deploy AI
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applications as weapons or weapons systems, or for mass
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surveillance on quote, earlier intercept reported Israel's use
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of Google Photos to implement a facial recognition dragnet
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across Gaza Strip to scan ordinary Palestinians as they
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attempt to flee the ongoing bombardment. Okay, a
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Adam Curry: couple things about this one. Oh, wow. Well,
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John C Dvorak: first of all, I mean, before you go to your
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couple of things, what do they have cameras in the middle of
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the rubble? Are you kidding me?
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Adam Curry: Know what, I love the outrage over this while in
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America, the TSA has just started scanning everybody
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without you know, without any just like, hey, we're doing this
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now. We're just doing facial recognition. Everyone's like,
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oh,
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Unknown: guy, but But Israel Gaza.
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Adam Curry: Second of all, why I want to see all these people
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divest from Google and Amazon. No more shopping. No more Gmail,
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no. Dogs. Where's that? Where's that? Come on. This is cheap.
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Diving.
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Unknown: Back in 2019, there was noticeably a lot less outrage
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when it was reported that Google and its parent company Alphabet
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were working in ways that were benefiting the Chinese military,
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specifically for the purposes of them tracking the Uighur
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population, as well as the Hong Kong protesters who were
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protesting for their freedom they are using but the yellow
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people we don't care about them similar services in order to
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crack down on protesters there in order to track people who
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they wanted to put in concentration camps. But yet, at
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the same time is grateful so that it was no longer going to
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buy for a $10 billion US government contract with its
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military saying that what the US military was doing was against
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its values. And so I'm very confused. Google's values
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supposedly are when they seemingly have no problem
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benefiting foreign governments, whether US allies or not, but
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they won't even work with the US government. Why are they here?
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Are they an American company? Do they consider
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John C Dvorak: we can stop this use your head? No, you can keep
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playing it. I like it, but I want to know what it is. I don't
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recall what did you preface it with who was this rising? This
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Adam Curry: is the rising the roll, no
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John C Dvorak: rise rising.
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Adam Curry: I preface it. You didn't hear it but yes, there
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was probably zoning. This was yeah, she should be fired
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because she's about to drop young,
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John C Dvorak: young black girl.
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Unknown: I don't think so of men. So why are they based here?
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Are they?
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John C Dvorak: young black girl doesn't sound black. She just I
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don't think that's her. I
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Adam Curry: don't think that's fair. I'm not sure I didn't clip
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this because I
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John C Dvorak: noticed that she can. She's really poor. She
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drops. She has some prompter issues as she's reading away and
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is a very this woman has the same balm
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Adam Curry: done with her. I don't care black or white. She's
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not she's off the show.
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John C Dvorak: It's been eliminated from the shouldn't be
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off the show is what be?
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Adam Curry: Well, let's now let's look at the endowment.
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This is it's all fascinating, because it's not really about
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killing people. It's not about genocide. No, it's about money,
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money, money, money, money. Here's a Meet the Press,
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Unknown: you hear a lot of these protesters demanding divestment.
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But they also will often say disclose first. And the reason
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why is because we just don't have a lot of transparency into
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what is in the school endowment. So again, part of this is the
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broader strategy among pro Palestinian protesters to
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boycott, divest, and sanction businesses that have ties to
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Israel now divest is the big conversation on college
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campuses, where you have these universities with, in many
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cases, multibillion dollar endowments that they use to
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invest in companies. So how much of those invest? I'm so
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Adam Curry: confused, that we just gloss over this. Why aren't
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they giving away free education? The cup meal billions of
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dollars, and they're investing in the stock?
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John C Dvorak: The wrong guy here
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Unknown: are going into businesses that have ties to
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Israel. Well, let's take a look at some of the this is
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Adam Curry: why Eisenhower said the military or you didn't say
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it, but it was in his original speech. Yep, I have to be right
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there military industry, the military, academic industrial
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complex.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he had academic in there originally.
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And
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Adam Curry: then someone took it out and said, Hey, see this
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picture?
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Unknown: In your mouth, those investments are going into
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businesses that have ties to Israel. Well, let's take a look
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at some of the requirements for how they have to disclose any
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sort of holdings. There's a form 990 with the IRS that's reported
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annually. This gives you the broad mix of stocks versus bonds
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that a university will be holding it in endowment, but the
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detail on specific stocks that are being held comes from a 13 F
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filed with the SEC. The problem, though, is that that doesn't
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really cover the entire scope of the endowment, which in many
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cases, as I mentioned, can be in the billions of dollars, which
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means it's largely up to the universities on a voluntary
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basis to disclose in their annual reports. What's actually
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in there. I
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Adam Curry: think we should crack this open. We should know
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what these universities are doing it all this money and how
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does it benefit the children? Well, it's not obviously because
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they're retarded. The stuff they're doing, like, oh,
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billions of dollars and endowments, trashcan, man, come
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on. This is crazy.
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Unknown: Man and Ryan, I'll give you an example of one
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university. Again, Columbia University getting a lot of
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scrutiny over all this when you look at the endowment. We're
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talking about a university that has $13.6 billion in endowment
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funds. We talked about that. I
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Adam Curry: mean, how many children can you educate from
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that money? 13.6 That's a lot of billions 13
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Unknown: app that discloses how many securities and how many
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types of companies are investing in, it covers only 68 million
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with an M, which means that the number of stocks that you know,
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Columbia has invested in through their endowment. It's only about
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point 5% So 99.5% of the endowment funds. We don't know
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about we don't know if they are or aren't in any sort of
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companies that have attachments to Israel. So that's where
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protesters asking for they're asking for more disclosure of
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the nature of those investments before they then ask them to
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divest from those funds but the status quo there's not a lot of
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transparency into these endowments right okay.
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Adam Curry: So so their protests are this whole BDS boycott
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divest and sanction has been based on stuff they don't even
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know this we know it we know your hide and secret secret Did
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you payments we know it? What if it is this? They don't even know
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this? No one seems to know. No. Oh, I find this highly highly
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irregular suspicious, suspicious and then so now when you think
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about it, if it's all about hey, you're giving money to these
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Israeli companies, then isn't it interesting
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John C Dvorak: when you know you're not give it Okay, first
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of all, it's okay. I'd help these I've helped me about
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terms. I helped me out you're not giving money to Israeli
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companies. You're investing Oh, invest usually open markets,
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stock market stuff investing.
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Adam Curry: That's a good point. And give me a giveaway. It's not
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a gimme. Okay, you're investing Good point. Because that's what
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a school should do. A school should be there to make money
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for itself. Today.
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John C Dvorak: I am all for I'm with you on this this thesis.
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harvest numbers are unbelievable. All these big
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universities have these large endowment usually they by
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soaking the alumni they call the alumni up constantly. I used to
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get called all the time from Cow, except once I told them one
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thing, and that was I got put on the blacklist. I haven't been
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called for years. What did you tell them? I said, you know, I
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noticed that last year you guys gave a Brock Obama campaign a
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million dollars of this sort of money. Why am I giving you money
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so I can go to brocco bomb, I don't support the guy. And that
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never got called off
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Adam Curry: the list. off the list. Did you get to TP during
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during how?
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John C Dvorak: Pretty bad but when? When
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Adam Curry: you think about what's about yesterday, so
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clearly there's the protesters want to hurt the companies that
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are being invested in? Doesn't if I just draw the logical
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conclusion, right? Yes. Okay. So then, now we have to look at
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who's funding these things, because they're clearly short on
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the stocks or something. Both
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Unknown: sides of this are apparently being funded by quite
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wealthy people. You have Jerry Seinfeld's wife apparently
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helping to organize a pro Israel protests are
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Adam Curry: married to Shana, is he still married to her? Or has
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he gotten a new wife in the meantime?
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John C Dvorak: I have no idea. Yeah, that's gotta
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Adam Curry: be promotion for his movie.
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Unknown: Bill Ackman and other celebrities or I guess wealthy
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people have helped to donate to that party fund for the UNC
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fraternity that was seen protecting the American flag.
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And then on the pro Palestine side Students for Justice in
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Palestine, of course receives funding from some Soros
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foundations from the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation from a Wall
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Street banker by the name of Felice Gellman, the protesters
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have been led by some people who are with the US campaign for
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Palestinian rights, which receives stipends from some of
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those same progressive billionaires to go on to campus
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and help these students organize their protest. They have
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received pro bono legal advice from the Palestine Legal Group.
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So across the board, and we can't just say that all of this
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is pure grassroots campaigning done by the students. For the
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students. There's outside influence, both on the pro
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Palestinian and the pro Israel side. Yeah, I
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Adam Curry: think that's what broke all of this because no
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one's taking it seriously anymore. Everyone's like, Oh,
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okay. It's these these investors on this side, fighting those
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investors on the other side. That's all I can see. Now,
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billionaires, how do you become a billionaire? Well, you make a
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lot of money, and then you invested in the companies, I
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guess?
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John C Dvorak: Well, you would take the if you were wanted to,
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you could if you could get everyone to divest and you are
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on the short side, you can make money. And then you can let it
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all go back to normal. You can make money that way. It is what
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Soros
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Adam Curry: typically Soros is made of shorting shorting
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currencies
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John C Dvorak: is shorter, and he is also placed currencies.
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He's really made more money off currencies than anyone could
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possibly do. Especially if you read his books. He's got a lot
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of tips on how to do this and a lot of it has has to do with
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being completely manipulative. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: he's always he's short on a country. It's like
23:16
Americana, short American now. It's time to take that dot. And
23:19
of course, he's really not doing this anymore. It's his boys. Who
23:23
might Aberdeen's boyfriend? He's the He's the new face. What says
23:27
I've got you on financial stuff, Jonathan
23:30
John C Dvorak: or something? Whatever is no, that's not his
23:31
name. Jonathan Soros. Oh, it's
23:34
Adam Curry: not Jonathan. It's Alex. Alex, Alex, Alex Soros,
23:38
Unknown: Alex Soros.
23:39
Adam Curry: So you probably saw this hilarious video of Jared
23:44
Bernstein. This the the chairman or the CEO of the Council of
23:49
Economic Advisers for the President. You saw this video.
23:55
John C Dvorak: I passed through it a couple of times. I haven't
23:58
really sat down and looked at it if you haven't played it, of
24:00
course,
24:01
Adam Curry: of course, because everyone's that you're talking
24:05
about me you should get a HEPA filter. Stick your head in that
24:07
to cedar closet. Right up. Everyone's laughing man
24:13
John C Dvorak: and white in
24:14
Adam Curry: the cedar closet? I don't know maybe. So everyone's
24:19
laughing at this video. And it is laughable because the guy
24:21
cannot explain how we print money and we borrow money. But
24:27
then why do we even have taxes? What? And he gets so confused
24:32
and I try I'm trying to track down same again, Jared
24:34
Bernstein. He really is the guy and he's he talks a big game
24:38
about inflation. He's on the White House lawn, you know, he's
24:42
always brought in to give his commentary. And, and this is
24:46
like the the season of reveal Pinnacle when he can't explain
24:51
how our financial system works, how we finance the government,
24:55
but very few people have explained what's really going on
24:59
and I have great hope, great hope that we can you can explain
25:05
this. So we understand so we can put you up for Chairman of the
25:10
Economic Council of Advisors for the president because this guy
25:13
is a numb nut.
25:15
Unknown: And the US government can't go bankrupt because we can
25:18
print or on money.
25:20
It obviously begs the question, why exactly? Are we borrowing in
25:23
a currency that we print ourselves and waiting for
25:26
someone to stand up and say, Why do we borrow our own currency in
25:30
the first place?
25:33
Like you said, they print the dollar. So why why does the
25:36
government even borrow? Well,
25:40
the so the I mean, again, some of the language that the MN some
25:49
of the language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the
25:51
government definitely prints money. And it definitely lends
25:55
that money, which is why the government definitely prints
25:58
money, and then it lends that money by by selling bonds. Is
26:03
that what they do? They, they, yeah, they, they, they sell
26:10
bonds? Yeah, they sell bonds, right? Because they sell bonds,
26:13
and people buy the bonds and lend them the money. Yeah. So a
26:17
lot of times, a lot of times, at least to my ear with MMT, the
26:21
language and the concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing,
26:24
but there is no question that the government prints money, and
26:28
then it uses that money to buy. So yeah, I guess I'm just I
26:38
can't really talk. I don't get it. I don't know what they're
26:41
talking about. Like, it's like, the government clearly prints
26:46
money. It does it all the time, and it clearly borrows.
26:49
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this that in depth conversation.
26:52
So I don't think there's anything confusing there.
26:57
Adam Curry: So this is Hilarity for all and I'm gonna, I'm gonna
27:01
take a little guess here, I'm gonna guess that this guy
27:04
doesn't understand, which is amazing. If you're the chairman
27:08
and CEO of the economic council of advisors to the President,
27:12
that he doesn't understand that the Federal Reserve who creates
27:15
money with the banking system is not a government institution.
27:21
Unknown: No. So
27:23
Adam Curry: can you can you explain simply to us all, just
27:26
John C Dvorak: the simplest way is that you have credits and
27:29
debits or to balance the budget, they have the same amount of
27:32
money out there that you have credits debits for and you so
27:36
you, you create a billion dollars with the bonds and sell
27:39
them and that money goes into the into circulation. It's the
27:43
only simplest way of looking at the way I see it. So
27:46
Adam Curry: we, we sell a bond and then that bond, the Fed then
27:49
prints that bond in dollars.
27:53
John C Dvorak: But people owe that money back.
27:55
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. The people, the people Oh,
27:58
that was mostly
27:59
John C Dvorak: the people that buy the bonds. I mean, people,
28:01
everyone like say, Well, China, you know, today, yeah, a lot of
28:04
foreigners buy the bonds, too, because they're good. It's a
28:09
good bond, and it has an interest that pays interest.
28:12
Yeah. And oh, yeah, supposed to be the inflation rate at the
28:16
most risk is always higher, of course, which means you're
28:19
getting inflation. So that is a bid system is builds it builds
28:23
inflation in
28:24
Adam Curry: so how, why do we pay taxes
28:28
John C Dvorak: to help because there is missing money? Because
28:34
somewhere along the line, we didn't make this debit credit
28:38
thing balanced out. It's never balanced. There was supposed to
28:41
be balanced, it would if they put a constitutional amendment
28:43
to balance it that you wouldn't have this issue. You probably
28:46
wouldn't need to pay taxes, but then we'd all be broke that we
28:48
wouldn't be any potholes fixed, and they're not potholes anyway.
28:51
They send the money to Ukraine. Okay, I got the answers. Why do
28:58
we pay tax? This is not a good system. Okay, no, it's a great
29:01
system. We pay taxes to support the military industrial complex.
29:06
That
29:06
Adam Curry: is that's exactly literally where our money goes
29:09
and to pay off the rent the interest the interest of the
29:11
money, we earn the interest for them did
29:13
John C Dvorak: the bond money mismatch?
29:16
Adam Curry: Is this a sustainable system?
29:20
John C Dvorak: Long term going for a long time? It's been going
29:22
since? I'd say since 1913. Yes, that's that would be the correct
29:28
date. Yes, it's been sustainable with a couple of with a couple
29:32
of hiccups like that little
29:33
Adam Curry: hiccup where we had to confiscate everybody's gold.
29:37
That was one hiccup was that's one he had ca 1971 Hiccup
29:40
John C Dvorak: is dropping gold altogether from the calculation.
29:43
That was Nixon's hiccup. The good way to go real hiccups were
29:47
1930 Depression 1970s, depression, the crash of
29:51
2008 2009 there and that comes and goes COVID and COVID, a
29:57
COVID and the business the business cycle, so And what is
30:00
the best way to get this keep this going war?
30:04
Adam Curry: Wars good? Isn't that what they always do? That
30:08
John C Dvorak: is Marxist economy, a Marxist economists
30:12
that's their basis for making these calculations. Yes.
30:17
Adam Curry: Oh, so you're Oh my second so so the Marxist like
30:23
war because it helps them with their system.
30:27
John C Dvorak: Their misunderstanding. I don't know
30:28
if they like war or not, but it seems that they might. But no,
30:31
they would they, when they see capitalism, they Stace, they
30:35
like to interpret it as needing wars to exist. We need to slam
30:42
on capitalism, but it's the market but it's a Marxist
30:45
economic ish theory that wars are benefit capitalism. I'm just
30:51
getting this from other Marxists. I mean, you know, not
30:54
one beating did you have to show me the other day? They were
30:59
bringing this up and get yet again.
31:01
Adam Curry: I loved watching some of the Berkshire Hathaway,
31:06
a big meeting in Omaha. They have their annual meeting, of
31:10
course, yeah. Sad meeting.
31:12
John C Dvorak: Is monger still alive? No, he's
31:15
Adam Curry: dead. Oh,
31:16
John C Dvorak: he died finally. Okay,
31:17
Adam Curry: at 99 is and so here's Warren Buffett without I
31:21
think he even referenced someone as Charlie for a moment. He
31:24
forgot that he was dead. And they have like $188 billion in
31:30
in cash. And Warren Buffett saying this is great. We just
31:33
leave it in money markets. We just leave it in treasuries for
31:37
three months, six months. Right? Invest in the dumb companies.
31:40
But Warren Buffett Warren Buffett Warren What about AI?
31:44
Warren What about AI?
31:45
Unknown: When you think of the potential for scamming people
31:51
reproduce images I can't even tell to say I need money. As
32:01
your daughter I just had a car crash. I need $50,000 wired I
32:09
mean scamming has always been part of the American scene.
32:13
American made me was interested in Destiny's scamming. That's
32:21
gonna be the growth industry evolves. I mentioned abled in a
32:25
way I you know, obviously AI has potential for good things too.
32:30
But I don't know how you miss on the one I saw recently. I
32:35
practically would send it to send money to myself overruns or
32:38
some crazy country don't have any advice on you
32:46
Adam Curry: know I think he nails rambling now it went on
32:49
for hours but I think he nails it though. All of this is good
32:53
for but he didn't quite nail it. He said for scamming and for
32:57
comedy so far we have seen no other actual use yes
33:03
John C Dvorak: for a lot art
33:05
Adam Curry: yes art you know 60 minutes that a huge thing whole
33:10
Randy Travis be thanks to AI he can sing again. Oh boy. I didn't
33:16
know he could now he has had some horrible illness oh
33:19
John C Dvorak: yeah was throat issues Yeah. Well, I think you
33:23
may be summarizing I think you might be on to something I
33:25
liked. That clip is almost a go clip borderline borderline but
33:30
not because you could because he's hard to hear him.
33:33
Adam Curry: Why can't help that. The
33:36
John C Dvorak: idea that AI is good for Kuma definitely yeah.
33:41
Did you see the bad guy there's wanting to buy No. Pooping
33:46
Adam Curry: the best using AI this year. We ate we need to do
33:50
the no agenda AI awards. There you go. Best. Best category for
33:57
fake video goes to Cat term. Cat term, you're
34:04
John C Dvorak: already just I've been pushing for some sort of
34:06
awards, the martial
34:08
Adam Curry: arts. There's our awards, the AI Podcast Awards.
34:11
We'll just throw podcast in there to give it some validity
34:13
but it's not about podcasts at all. Just said the AI Podcast
34:17
Awards because we do the awards on podcast and we hand out the
34:20
best well AI and here's here's this fake voice Yeah, best fake
34:26
voice best. And of course we have to have an R rated
34:29
category. Best our rated picture of Taylor Swift Taylor Swift its
34:35
own category altogether. Yeah, and and we should say best AI
34:40
spokes hold dear members
34:41
Unknown: of the media and the public. I welcome you. My name
34:44
is Victoria she I have been created by the Ministry of
34:47
Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, using artificial intelligence to
34:51
provide you with timely and high quality information on Consular
34:54
Affairs. I am a digital person. That means that the text you
34:58
hear was not read by a real person, it was generated by
35:01
artificial intelligence. I will carry out a number of tasks.
35:05
First and foremost, I will inform the public providing
35:09
timely and verified information from Ukraine's consular service.
35:14
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, it's Yeah. Have you seen catch? Have you
35:18
seen her? Have you seen the video? No,
35:19
John C Dvorak: I have not seen her I know but you know that do
35:21
you have to remember that the Japanese had an AI girl who's
35:25
extremely famous in Japan somebody whenever a Japanese
35:28
produces can tell it can remember the name of this woman?
35:31
Oh,
35:31
Adam Curry: I know what you're talking about. Yeah. And it
35:33
John C Dvorak: was a face and she was she was a celebrity but
35:36
she was completely computer generated. But it was called
35:40
back then when she came around. This is 5678 years ago when she
35:43
showed up. This was called Computer Generated
35:47
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like Man is the same thing. Max
35:51
Headroom?
35:52
John C Dvorak: Yes. Like Max Headroom. Be one of our
35:54
celebrity judges
35:56
Adam Curry: Max head. Yeah. Yeah, I'm one of those guys.
36:01
That think we're onto something here. It's begging is the AI
36:05
world is begging for an award show. Oh, yes, they need it.
36:09
They do and then they can we can tell everyone Hey, listen. You
36:14
know, just in case you win, wink wink nudge nudge I think he was
36:18
possibly you might have one could you please do an
36:21
acceptance speech for us? Really funny. So okay, well
36:25
John C Dvorak: this show is going to take it to the limit
36:28
and a couple of things that should be noted. One Yes, you do
36:32
that you bribe people with awards to get them to speak
36:35
lifetime? Not right away but I'd say within a couple of years
36:41
probably within three you'd have you to get nominated. You have
36:46
to pay a fee.
36:47
Adam Curry: Oh of course no. This is how it works now there's
36:50
an entrance fee yeah that's how we make a reasonable fee Yes
36:54
$2,000 That's our that's how we make money Yeah, and then we
36:59
make money on the catering for the gala
37:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there has to be catering there has to be a
37:06
gala
37:08
Adam Curry: red carpets
37:09
John C Dvorak: well I don't know about that. I don't maybe we're
37:12
onto some of the some of the guys who do this there are
37:16
Adam Curry: there are so many companies now we were just doing
37:18
it virtual was save money there are so many companies who have
37:22
it'd be best
37:25
John C Dvorak: to do a virtual we're gonna have a real event
37:27
Adam Curry: best prompt jockey think about and that's gonna
37:32
John C Dvorak: be hard to eat. Here's the problem with that.
37:33
Yeah, I would say I'm worried that we're gonna sell merch, the
37:38
merchants or somebody else could do the merch. We don't have to
37:40
do we just job it out. But I would say I don't like the
37:44
prompt jockey thing is going to be tough because what you're
37:46
doing is you're exposing a boy II to poaching. Yeah, okay.
37:53
You're not gonna go for that.
37:54
Adam Curry: But we can definitely get a whole bunch of
37:55
comedians to judge the funniest memes the the funniest video
37:59
memes the funniest now the panel, and then you know, best,
38:03
best faked leaked audio like that.
38:10
John C Dvorak: We can sit down and do the categories. Okay,
38:12
good. All right. So it's done deal. All right. Exit Strategy.
38:15
Beautiful.
38:16
Adam Curry: Now, no, I
38:17
John C Dvorak: think we can still do the show.
38:20
Adam Curry: How disappointing now. Now, let's just let's go
38:25
talk to somebody. Let's listen to somebody who knows all about
38:27
AI, who is all in and actually calls it the AI which I think we
38:31
need to start adopting. It's not AI, it's the AIS. And that's
38:36
Bill Gates. And he's back on the scene with the Hannah Ricci This
38:43
is his unconfused me podcast, where and he's something's
38:47
really weird, but I mean, okay, so it was always weird though.
38:50
He's sitting he has
38:51
John C Dvorak: a bit of a he has a neurological disorder.
38:55
Adam Curry: This is something with his right arm there's
38:58
something his his left shoulder was up his right arm was he
39:01
never moved really his right arm.
39:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got some he's got some some issue
39:05
and he also has fax. I think that's Parkinson's problem,
39:09
Adam Curry: though. Sorry about that. But anyway, we're still
39:12
gonna make fun of him.
39:13
Unknown: My guest is Dr. Hannah Ricci, data scientist and
39:17
researcher at the University of Oxford, also head of research
39:22
for our world in data. She's just coming out with the
39:25
fantastic new book called not the end of the world. Welcome,
39:29
Hannah. It's
39:30
a pleasure to be here.
39:31
Adam Curry: It's a pleasure to be here. Okay, so now we're
39:33
gonna get into it about the power of AI.
39:36
Unknown: Is there something that you've changed your mind about
39:38
recently,
39:39
I spent a lot of time in the technology world and I have to
39:42
say I was very stunned how the AIS went from basically not
39:47
being able to read or write at all, to doing that in a very
39:51
facile way. Still very imperfect. But it kind of blew
39:55
my mind I had challenged people to pass a test and thought they
40:01
might never at least take them years, but within a few months,
40:06
they were able to do it. So now, you know, I'm thinking about
40:10
Wow, how do we use this in education and health and in
40:16
various environmental challenges? So the power of
40:20
these AI is I, I miss predicted that and I'm reformed. He's
40:27
Adam Curry: reformed he believes in the power of the AIS. With
40:32
it's very weird to say the AIS. It's like he's like talking
40:35
about the God's power of the eyes of AI is I'm reformed I
40:39
believe in the power of the AI is our new god. So what do you
40:43
think Bill was thinking about? Really? If we're using the power
40:47
of the AI guys, any ideas?
40:51
John C Dvorak: What could Yeah, what the mRNA vaccines now
40:54
creepier
40:55
Adam Curry: and creepier? creepier creepier.
40:58
John C Dvorak: Who wants to clone himself? I have no idea.
41:01
Close.
41:01
Unknown: Do you think AI will play a role in climate action?
41:04
Well, absolutely. Because our ability to model complex
41:08
phenomena
41:08
John C Dvorak: we hold on and say stop the podcast. Oh, wow.
41:12
Adam Curry: He just pulled the emergency brake.
41:17
John C Dvorak: Didn't Bill introduce her? And isn't this
41:20
his podcast? No,
41:21
Adam Curry: it's that's what's so interesting. I'm glad you
41:23
picked up on that.
41:25
John C Dvorak: So how did it turn around or he's being
41:28
interviewed? Now that's kind of a podcast host is that?
41:32
Adam Curry: This is this is the new format. I think it's
41:34
revolutionary.
41:36
John C Dvorak: Revolutionaries,
41:37
Adam Curry: like what I give I give him two thumbs up for this
41:40
concept. I like it. I like it a lot. Let's go back.
41:43
Unknown: Do you think AI will play a role in climate action?
41:46
Well,
41:46
absolutely, because our ability to model complex phenomena, the
41:51
AIs are helping a lot with that. So for example, looking at the
41:56
genetics of cows, and saying, Hey, some cows emit a lot of
42:01
methane and some emit very, very little, and some cows survive in
42:06
hot weather very well in some do not. And then along with our
42:10
ability to edit genes, one of the most dramatic source of
42:15
emissions that at one time I and wasn't sure the path forward.
42:20
Now we can see either making the cows better, or various
42:25
techniques where they they create meat without the cow
42:29
Adam Curry: there it is. We create meat without the cow.
42:34
There's even a new in the Netherlands, they're promoting
42:37
farmer LIS meat, this is my favorite meat without the
42:40
farmer. That's the way to go. So, Bill is all in on the
42:48
climate change making meat without the cow and probably
42:52
some more here. Let's see what else Yes, even
42:54
Unknown: the weather modeling piece. Now AI has been applied
42:57
to that boat the long term which is, you know, kind of those
43:00
climate models, but say telling the farmer in Africa based on
43:05
the weather, should they go ahead and plant now? Or is it
43:09
going to be so dry? You know, they use stories planted the
43:12
first rain, but if you know that's anomalous, you know, then
43:17
then you shouldn't plant and so the eyes are really starting to
43:21
help us with very practical problems.
43:23
Adam Curry: This is bull crap.
43:24
John C Dvorak: He say a eyes he
43:26
Adam Curry: keeps saying the AI I'm telling you the guy is
43:28
looking at the AIS as the gods. He's reformed. Remember the AIS?
43:34
The the so the
43:36
John C Dvorak: tip. I wish I had the Mr. mRNA clip that he just
43:40
did too. And for USA Today where he's like going off the deep
43:44
end. Don't
43:46
Adam Curry: worry, there's more because he has
43:49
John C Dvorak: to wait there's more.
43:52
Adam Curry: So remember that you're making cow mooing noises
43:59
It's a very inappropriate sell AI remember that we just had
44:04
this bird flu scare which is not over. But oh, it wasn't in the
44:09
in the ground beef. Ah, thank God it might be in the milk but
44:12
it's in the ground beef. But when people you know people
44:15
listened very poorly to the news and they hit breaking breaking
44:18
breaking ground beef. Bird flu. I guarantee you that people are
44:23
like, well maybe you should just have some chicken tonight. I'm
44:28
sure want to have some gris ierarh on chicken. I heard
44:31
something about ground beef. I don't like it and bit and
44:34
they're all jumping in on it. I would have to say if it wasn't
44:38
planned, ma'am. They really picked up quick because the fake
44:43
meat people are back. They're not going to give up. They're
44:46
all in including Bill
44:48
Unknown: are you what what scenario where new data kind of
44:51
changed your your view of things.
44:53
So my general framework for change on many of these
44:57
technologies is that if you generate alternative technology,
45:01
which is as good as the original and is cheaper than the
45:04
original, then people will just adopt it. And I think that's
45:07
true for energy sources. I think people are not that bothered
45:11
about what actually comes goes into the plug. They just want
45:14
reliable power. I think one area where I'm a bit more skeptical
45:19
of that framework, nose and food. Now I'm a big fan of meat
45:23
substitutes, I love Impossible Burger beyond meat burger, like
45:26
I'm a vegan. So I eat this stuff all the time, I think I had this
45:30
framework in my head that FDA just got cheap enough and tasted
45:34
good that people would just make that switch, I'm now becoming
45:38
much more skeptical that it will be as easy as that. I think
45:42
there will just be this inherent resistance for many people that
45:45
is not meat, so I'm not going to make the switch. So to me, I'm
45:49
leaning more towards, I think if we're going to see this large
45:53
scale change and dietary habits and basically needs to generate,
45:55
you basically just need to generate meat, which would be
45:58
lab grown meat, for example, when it's not just a plant based
46:01
substitute for that, but it's the actual thing, just without
46:05
the cow or the chicken.
46:07
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that this is not a coincidence that
46:10
Bill Gates and he's clearly interested in anything modifying
46:13
cow she's like, Nah, now we just need to go to lab grown meat,
46:16
and it's on the radar all over the place. Good luck tops. Wha?
46:22
Hey, I think there's I think there's a path for these nut
46:25
jobs. Here's Tom llamas with a top story top story on NBC.
46:30
Unknown: I'm joined tonight by Tom Ross Meisel. He's the head
46:33
of Global Marketing at good meat, one of just two cultivated
46:36
meat.
46:37
Adam Curry: Let's just bring in the guy who's the head of Global
46:39
Marketing. Don't you think that's kind of suspicious?
46:45
John C Dvorak: Well, it depends on what the story's about. Is it
46:49
about global marketing or Well, it's about is it about this
46:53
meeting? Even news this is a native ad is what you're gonna
46:58
bought to play? Yes,
47:00
Adam Curry: correct. Well, it's because of a debates going on in
47:02
Florida meat
47:03
Unknown: companies in the US that had been approved by the
47:06
FDA to sell their products and Representative Dean black who is
47:09
a Republican member of Florida's let's state legislature, but an
47:13
important but here he's also a cattle rancher. We thank you
47:16
both for joining top story tonight. I'm looking forward to
47:18
a spirited debate. Tom, I'm going to play a video for our
47:21
viewers now that are great
47:23
John C Dvorak: spirited debate as comma, this role. So we're
47:28
looking forward to a spirited debate here on the TV show, walk
47:31
our
47:32
Unknown: viewers through what we're looking here. So the meats
47:33
built or assembled, I guess, in these
47:38
Adam Curry: were, what he said assembled, he's versus is built,
47:41
then assembled, both equally bad
47:43
Unknown: built are assembled, I guess, in these metal
47:46
containers. And then it comes out and it looks just like a
47:49
fillet right? By that grocery store. I would know the
47:52
difference. And if you're an idiot, looks like a chicken
47:56
fillet. My question to you is What does it taste like? It
48:00
tastes like chicken.
48:05
Adam Curry: People are going to fall for this. John, people are
48:07
going to go I can predict it right now. This global warming
48:12
nonsense has been going on for In fact, I have a call out for
48:15
our producers. We have a best of show coming up. For the think
48:20
Sunday the 26th. And Sir de nonnamous has upgraded being
48:25
it.io. I mean, he has done a phenomenal job. You can search
48:31
every single episode of the no agenda show I did some and you
48:34
can do also now. sort those results in reverse chronological
48:37
order. I would I'm going I'm going to put together a global
48:41
warming slash climate change special because already never
48:46
did. You just did Eclipse. Yeah, but now but now you can get us
48:51
talking. And then there's a lot of stuff that's not clips. This
48:55
just Okay, your stations.
48:57
John C Dvorak: It'd be a nice show.
48:58
Adam Curry: I think it'd be a great show. And I'd like
49:00
producers to go to bing.io and search because it goes back to
49:04
episode three. We were talking about this nonsense. And every
49:11
it's been the same for almost 17 years.
49:15
John C Dvorak: Can I Can I interrupt your pace and flow for
49:17
a second place? We have to do two donation segments today. Go
49:21
I
49:21
Adam Curry: know I was already thinking about that. I just
49:24
wanted to I think we're just back to two I mean, I love it. I
49:26
thought it would I thought everyone felt very comfortable.
49:31
Here's what we need is we need the art generate a generator to
49:33
come back online. Oh, is it dead on the check if it's back online
49:38
by now? Nope, it's dead. Is Dead Jim? No agenda art generator.com
49:45
is dead as a doornail. Yeah, getting that Cloudflare thing.
49:51
Okay, so let's, let's just continue for a little bit
49:54
because I think I can tell you Well, how about let me see.
49:59
John C Dvorak: So the theme over Your little presentation here is
50:01
fake meat. fake
50:03
Adam Curry: meat. Yes, fake meat, which was precipitated by
50:07
the fake scare about the fake bird flu. And so now the fake
50:12
meat people are out all over the place. Tom, what do you see?
50:15
John C Dvorak: Oh, hold on. Yeah. So you're equating the
50:18
bird flu bull crap that Ken went? Yep. With fake meat. Yeah,
50:24
the impetus for fake meat as part of a long arc cut
50:28
Adam Curry: set up a big setup. Wow, Bill Gates has an
50:31
investment in fake meat company. Well,
50:34
John C Dvorak: good for him. He's bought time he lost on some
50:36
of his investments. Now,
50:38
Adam Curry: I'm just going to take the other side of that, I
50:40
think that they're going to, they're going to make it happen.
50:44
And, and I'm going to tell you how I'm going to tell you how
50:46
first, let's get another one I got, I'm gonna skip around these
50:49
clips, I don't want to bore you too much
50:51
Unknown: to what culture and politics would be at play here.
50:55
I mean, you you should ask Representative black. There are
50:59
no credible safety concerns coming from the legislature
51:03
about this. So you know, if politicians want to say, hey, we
51:08
don't like this meet, that may play well with some consumers.
51:12
But you know, ultimately, consumers should decide what
51:15
meat they want to buy or not buy. Okay,
51:17
Adam Curry: so peers. Now we're gonna get some of the reasons
51:21
why we need lab grown meat. Tommy says, Does the
51:25
Unknown: country need this right now? And is would your meat be
51:28
more affordable? I mean, I mean, give me the top three reasons
51:31
why America needs us right now. That's a good question. Yeah, so
51:34
the the number one reasons environmental, so we're growing
51:39
just the meat that is consumed by a consumer, we're not growing
51:43
at the corn, intestine, or fur, or tendons or anything like
51:46
that. So we have the ability to grow meat much more efficiently
51:50
than the conventional way.
51:52
Adam Curry: Yes, we grow meat better than cows, okay. And
51:55
that's going to
51:56
Unknown: be really important. I mean, the protein requirements
52:00
of the planet are going to double between now and 2050.
52:03
Adam Curry: Redefining protein, as we suggested would happen. So
52:06
adding another
52:07
Unknown: tool to be able to sustainably make protein is
52:10
going to be really important. It's not going to replace
52:13
conventional meat. We're not advocating for that. I'm
52:16
certainly that's not be expected from the Florida Legislature.
52:20
But consumers should decide they should be able to go to a
52:23
grocery store and determine what type of safe and approve meat
52:26
they want.
52:27
Adam Curry: Okay, so it comes down to one that by the sorry,
52:30
not
52:31
John C Dvorak: to interrupt here. But I want to say that is
52:34
the mistake they're making. Consumers will not decide in
52:40
favor of lab grown meat there's consumers are not so stupid,
52:45
that they think that lab grown meats better and all they need
52:48
is just a kind of a kickoff Hey, you know there's amino acids,
52:51
there's all kinds of who knows what mystery elements and, and
52:55
vitamins in real meat that the body needs over it because of
52:59
evolutionary factors that is not going to be in lab grown
53:03
anything that you
53:05
Adam Curry: are correct about the quality of the products that
53:08
it will be very bad for humans. You I believe you're incorrect
53:11
about consumers being stupid a, a lot of consumers took a gene
53:16
therapy that it had no business injecting into their body
53:20
stupid, I don't know depends on how its positioned by the
53:23
authorities and the science. Millions of people have been
53:28
psyops into buying an electric vehicle because all it's going
53:33
to save the climate is going to save the world is going to
53:35
change everything. And these are the saps that are standing by
53:39
the side of the road when it's too hot. When it's too cold.
53:42
Their car is worth 30% less the minute they drive it off the lot
53:45
50% within six months. Yes, consumers are stupid when lied
53:51
to, particularly by people of authority like I don't know Elon
53:55
Musk. So what is the ticket? Why did they what is the ticket into
53:59
getting the people to buy the cheap meat? Listen to this last
54:02
clip
54:03
Unknown: right now? Is it cheaper or more expensive than
54:05
regular meat? Yeah, right now it's more expensive. We've got a
54:08
lot of steps in order to scale our technology, it's going to
54:11
take a lot of time to get there. But that's true of all new
54:14
industries. You know, when cars came out, they're very expensive
54:17
cell phones, electric vehicles, you name it. There's always a
54:22
process when you're scaling up a new technology and
54:25
Adam Curry: what was the solution for the electric
54:27
vehicles $5,000 subsidy from the government it's coming for fake
54:32
meat. Guaranteed. If you buy the fake meat, it's going to be
54:38
cheaper because of the subsidies to the supermarket to the
54:41
producers however they do it. Yes. I think that that is going
54:45
to happen. I know you disagree. You disagree clearly Well, I'm
54:49
John C Dvorak: gonna give you a little I'll give you that I'll
54:52
give you the possibilities that they're going to chicken shit
54:55
away into this by giving away money by American taxpayer
54:59
money. Need to make it so it looks more appealing as
55:02
Adam Curry: we print it right? But
55:05
John C Dvorak: even cheaper, it's going to, if it's cheaper
55:09
disguise, you're going to be a mistake. Because of the way the
55:12
mind works. It's going to be a cheap lab grown substitute for
55:16
real chicken, which is cheap anyway. But okay, let's just say
55:20
it's a cheap lab grown chicken meat. And it's going to this is
55:26
cheaper so we can save a little money here. Oh, I don't know.
55:29
It's looks cheap. It's cheap. It's going to be seen as cheap
55:33
junk. I think there's a huge hurdle to get over. If you're
55:40
going to pull this stunt where you think you're going to sell
55:42
the public lab grown? You know, some slush, okay. It's not it's
55:47
never gonna get this right.
55:48
Adam Curry: Have you walked through a regular old
55:51
supermarket recently?
55:53
John C Dvorak: I walked through regular old supermarkets all the
55:55
time. It looks like
55:56
Adam Curry: Disneyland. It's nothing but colored packages
55:59
with sugar and chemicals. People are eating chemicals and sugar
56:03
all day long. And you think, oh, I want some good quality
56:08
chicken. Do you buy meat and chicken at the supermarket?
56:12
John C Dvorak: I bought meat and chicken at the supermarket. I
56:15
don't normally I usually just buy giant slabs of stuff.
56:18
Adam Curry: Where do you buy Costco?
56:20
John C Dvorak: I buy Costco. Yeah, buy me a Costco.
56:23
Adam Curry: You are a discerning consumer who's smart. You're
56:27
also from the silent generation. You know, good
56:30
John C Dvorak: fam. Not from the silent generation, my baby
56:32
boomer, don't take me with them. I'm
56:35
Adam Curry: sorry. Mistake mistake. I meant the boomer. Of
56:39
course, you're smart. But the people who are eat it, people
56:43
are eating junk. Their sugar addicts. They're gonna be Hey,
56:47
have you tried this new chicken? It tastes great. Texture is
56:51
fantastic.
56:52
John C Dvorak: To the stock market and beyond meats. It's
56:55
comedy on me. So oh, here it is. Sorry, fake hamburger.
56:58
Adam Curry: They had electric vehicles in 1912. They just
57:02
needed a reboot. They needed Elon, they didn't have Elon at
57:06
the time that you cannot tell me that the electric vehicle has
57:10
been a great idea. Can you think so know
57:20
John C Dvorak: what it would be if they did, they had the one
57:23
that they use the technology which I think they're using in
57:25
some parts of China, where you go, you take your electric
57:30
vehicle, you drive into the recharging station, they swap
57:35
out your entire battery pack and put a new one in and you drive
57:38
off in 15 seconds.
57:40
Adam Curry: All right, fine, fine, fine. All of it sucks. It
57:44
sucks. It's no good. All right. I just hope people go to beef
57:53
initiative.com. Everybody, make sure you find a rancher because
57:57
it's coming. It's coming. And you know, this is this is my
58:00
favorite. So they had on Dean black some house representatives
58:04
probably from Florida. And on the off chance that I'm right.
58:10
And about what about lab meats? About people going? We're
58:15
John C Dvorak: gonna be lapping it up. Yes,
58:17
Adam Curry: on the off chance, he brings up a really good
58:19
point.
58:20
Unknown: There is a lot of research and development still
58:22
to be done. And I will agree that in order for it to be
58:26
competitive, it would have to be scaled up. And if you scale this
58:30
up, that brings up my second objection, which pertains to
58:33
China. Look, Communist China and communist countries have a
58:38
history of collectivizing agriculture and food production
58:42
and they use that to control their populations. And for this
58:45
to make sense it will have to be concentrated in large factories.
58:51
And look we are in a very tense geopolitical time with China,
58:56
North Korea, Iran. And if you concentrate your protein
59:00
production in a few major factories you're a few missile
59:05
strikes from an instant famine. Yeah.
59:10
I like that. I like that. I like it a lot. I like it a lot. And
59:15
Adam Curry: then I'll just play this final clip because anything
59:18
anything that comes from the Netherlands is dynamite. You
59:21
know, again, we're redefining protein. Of course I'm all in
59:27
with you that no lab grown meat anything can have any of the
59:31
goodness that's inside actual animal protein I don't eat much
59:35
chicken at all I don't trust any chicken from anywhere.
59:39
John C Dvorak: I don't stress that a chicken I don't
59:41
Adam Curry: trust any Sam you trust salmon us trust salmon
59:44
from anywhere I don't think so. We use what happened to Dame
59:47
Elise from She must have gone overboard members she was Alaska
59:52
she would send a salmon from time to time at least guard
59:56
garland Yarrow garlic yeah least garlic and garland otherwise
1:00:00
Garling Garling
1:00:01
John C Dvorak: Well, whatever the case is, they are still up
1:00:04
in Port Angeles. I think they bailed out there overboard. We
1:00:07
haven't gotten into it. More importantly, we haven't received
1:00:10
any lemon shallow for the last five years or
1:00:13
Adam Curry: more than that. Her limoncello was off the hook. It
1:00:17
was so good. Anyway, leave it to the the farmer list meat country
1:00:23
known as the Netherlands. This is really this is a marketing
1:00:25
campaign. Farmer list meat. Can you believe it? Instead of
1:00:31
saying it's not actual meat, though, it's farmer list meat.
1:00:35
Don't just forget about the cow. We don't need to stupid farmer
1:00:40
is wooden shoes now and you want protein. Introducing the Dutch
1:00:45
bugs burgers.
1:00:46
Unknown: At first glance it looks like a normal hamburger.
1:00:49
But it's not just any old burger. Because half of the meat
1:00:53
patty consists of ground up insect larvae so Boksburg
1:00:58
nice flavor and I would definitely recommend it.
1:01:02
Adam Curry: It has nice meat flavor, so I'm going to eat is
1:01:05
very good. I would recommend it to all my friends. It's
1:01:08
Unknown: a nice flavor and I would definitely recommend it to
1:01:11
my friends.
1:01:11
The main ingredient and Barrows BOXBERGER is ground blesser
1:01:15
mealworms, the larvae of the darkling beetle. The production
1:01:18
of the insect burgers begins here in the Dutch town of
1:01:21
Amarillo. The manufacturers have been breeding insects here for
1:01:25
about 40 years nearly as animal feed, give them cow feed and
1:01:30
afford the cosmetics industry. But recently they've been
1:01:33
producing more and more larvae for human consumption. He
1:01:36
performs regular checks on the quality. What do you
1:01:39
Adam Curry: think the difference is between larvae for animal
1:01:41
consumption and larvae for human consumption? Is there a
1:01:44
different process suddenly
1:01:47
John C Dvorak: is you're making me sick
1:01:48
Unknown: or larvae for human consumption he performs regular
1:01:52
checks on the quality of his worms. around 2 billion people
1:01:55
around the world eat insects daily, but it's still a big
1:01:58
taboo in Europe within five years. I think we all eat a
1:02:02
couple of times a year insects and worms are sustainable source
1:02:06
of energy containing 50% protein. They only need a
1:02:09
fraction of the space water and feed that breeding higher orders
1:02:13
of animals require their co2 emissions are minimal. The
1:02:17
larvae live for three months in these boxes where they consume
1:02:20
grain. When they're large enough to be harvested. They're flash
1:02:23
frozen and shipped to customers. smocks Kramer and Barish. Ozel
1:02:27
are the founders of Lux burger, the founders first encountered
1:02:31
edible insects during a world trip seven years ago. That's how
1:02:34
they got the idea to start their business. When
1:02:36
we first told friends, family and acquaintances about our
1:02:39
idea, most of them said we were crazy that there's no way it
1:02:42
would work. In the meantime, everybody thinks what we're
1:02:45
doing is cool. And the next thing they say is hey, when can
1:02:48
we finally try it out the
1:02:50
ground veal words are mixed with peas water and a secret spice
1:02:54
mixture burger will lead to the greatest meat being eaten that
1:02:57
will be good for the environment because less grain will be used
1:02:59
for cattle feed. And the insects are also climate friendly. A few
1:03:03
restaurants in Belgium and the Netherlands already have Lux
1:03:07
burgers on their menu. Sonic hamburgers cost between 12 and
1:03:10
17 euros
1:03:13
Adam Curry: they cost a fortune they're going to be subsidized
1:03:18
John C Dvorak: your subsidize theory note to say is probably
1:03:22
the only thing that's gonna save this industry dollars. So it is
1:03:25
I'll give you a clip of the day for that one hour. Thank
1:03:28
Adam Curry: you. I found it by accident. Someone some ways
1:03:33
John C Dvorak: the most disgusting disgusting Clip of
1:03:36
the Day. And probably for a long time.
1:03:39
Adam Curry: Our future is in our future. Yes, they've been
1:03:42
promising
1:03:43
John C Dvorak: they they've been threatening us with this
1:03:45
forever. Oh Carson shows I've been watching and they've talked
1:03:50
about it and
1:03:51
Adam Curry: all we do is live all we do is laugh then that one
1:03:55
day you're gonna wake up
1:03:57
John C Dvorak: one day you're gonna wake up and you're still
1:03:59
not gonna eat. Mr. Devore. I'm
1:04:01
Adam Curry: sorry, you can't buy any beef on your credit card
1:04:04
because you drove a Lexus. An old one a dirt as a motor at a
1:04:09
dirty motorized Lexus, Mr. Dvorak. Do you know how much
1:04:14
improvement we've made on the Lexus in the 25 years since you
1:04:17
bought that vehicle? Mr. Devore. You are a dirty polluter. Carbon
1:04:21
criminal.
1:04:23
John C Dvorak: Your current criminal that's another good
1:04:24
show title. I'm
1:04:25
Adam Curry: just rocking it today. You're a carbon carbon
1:04:28
criminal. And then I'm sorry, it won't work.
1:04:35
John C Dvorak: Well, I have the cars built before they put in
1:04:40
the advices that could not be remotely shut you down. I know
1:04:44
Adam Curry: they're coming. They're coming for you. They're
1:04:47
coming for you. And anyway, um, that's it's just a it's just a
1:04:51
little just a little All I'm saying is get to know a rancher
1:04:56
somewhere because when it comes down to it, here we go again. It
1:04:59
looks no money in this for me.
1:05:02
John C Dvorak: There's no we notice you get free meat.
1:05:03
Adam Curry: No I do not. I tell you you should go to deal
1:05:08
because I'm not like that ranchers can't get
1:05:10
John C Dvorak: away not like that. No, I'm not. No, that's
1:05:14
how you and I differ.
1:05:18
Unknown: Okay, point made
1:05:21
Adam Curry: I just want you to know there's there's no benefit
1:05:24
to me and if there's no benefit to Texas slim or anybody else,
1:05:28
the ranchers are running at capacity so you better get in
1:05:31
while stocks last. Otherwise you're just going to be over
1:05:39
okay, I mean, I'm just here to help people. First Law first law
1:05:46
have no agenda here to help people. Yeah,
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: I think that is the first law have no agenda to
1:05:50
help people. All right. But I got a bunch of different things.
1:05:55
I got Russia versus the Falun Gong, which I thought was funny.
1:05:59
I got bank laundering I was another bank caught being a
1:06:03
money laundering operation. Oh, that's you like that? Yeah. Like
1:06:07
yeah, of course. Since about it. Why did he is that your exit
1:06:12
strategy? Why do
1:06:13
Adam Curry: these guys launder it when you can just print it
1:06:15
and just make some for yourself and take it home?
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this TD Bank of all places, which
1:06:21
Adam Curry: is that tweet from TD America
1:06:24
John C Dvorak: which is from TD America or not? Okay, play it.
1:06:28
Adam Curry: TD Bank hoping China launder fentanyl money.
1:06:32
According to the Justice Department. The Wall Street
1:06:35
Journal reports an operation was uncovered in New York and New
1:06:39
Jersey which laundered hundreds of millions of dollars in
1:06:43
illegal drug money via TD Bank and other banks. This is TD I
1:06:48
knew I recognize it from my day trading days. TD is from td td
1:06:53
ameritrade and I believe they've been purchased by Wells Fargo
1:06:58
and they had their they had their headquarters in New
1:07:01
Jersey. These these these guys.
1:07:04
John C Dvorak: Let me see if they are owned by
1:07:06
Adam Curry: Wells Fargo. So I think you know they're in Cherry
1:07:10
John C Dvorak: Hill New Jersey. Wells Fargo is the was the
1:07:14
they're owned by Toronto Dominion that's outdoor T D
1:07:17
comes from.
1:07:19
Adam Curry: I thought that someone bought the MCC I could
1:07:20
be wrong. This is according to court files. And people in the
1:07:24
know Chinese wondering Charles Schwab Charles Schwab. I know
1:07:27
that Charles Schwab bought their trading operation I don't know
1:07:30
if they bought the bank is according to court files. And
1:07:32
people in the know Chinese wondering money laundering
1:07:35
organizations have gotten very good at shielding ill gotten
1:07:38
gains. These organizations launder cartel cash quicker and
1:07:41
cheaper than competitors, often with a money back guarantee
1:07:45
during a hearing on Chinese money laundering Tuesday right
1:07:49
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse said that Chinese money laundering
1:07:52
organizations work with Mexican cartels to move fentanyl
1:07:57
profits. The Journal reports according to court files in 2021
1:08:02
federal agents followed suspects through New York City streets as
1:08:06
they carry giant bags of cash to bank and on occasion, David
1:08:11
caught suspects bribing TD employees,
1:08:15
Unknown: they can, you know make them look the other way. When
1:08:18
opening bank accounts using a fictitious high quality Chinese
1:08:23
passports. federal
1:08:24
Adam Curry: investigator Ricardo mayoral told lawmakers he's
1:08:28
often seen these organizations engaging in bribery, which
1:08:31
bypasses traditional detection systems. So these guys also,
1:08:37
they own the Nordstrom credit card. They own the target credit
1:08:42
card. This is quite the operation. I'm digging this
1:08:47
John C Dvorak: in for it and 50 billion in assets. And
1:08:51
Adam Curry: what's this anywhere on the quote unquote, mainstream
1:08:54
news I have not heard of this. at all in the Justice Department
1:08:59
probe, the Chinese laundering organization offered $57,000 in
1:09:04
bribes to TD employees. This included gift cards, the
1:09:08
organization moved at least $653 million to 1000s of entities in
1:09:14
the US and Hong Kong. According to court documents. The Justice
1:09:18
Department is also investigating TD Bank for three other
1:09:22
instances of money laundering, a Canadian regulator find it
1:09:26
nearly $7 million on Wednesday, TD Bank said Thursday it's
1:09:31
cooperating with law enforcement and strengthening its anti money
1:09:35
laundering program. Yeah, but people people buying a $3 of
1:09:39
Bitcoin go arrest them, please because you know that's how
1:09:43
criminals operate. Ignore the guys with the fake passports
1:09:48
carrying bags of money down the street. The American dollar is
1:09:54
still the best for corruption. It's still the best criminal
1:09:59
activity with the Best,
1:10:00
John C Dvorak: it's the bet. Well, you've always had this
1:10:02
thesis and I kind of agree with it is very much proven true in
1:10:06
the first Cocaine Cowboys movie which people should see great
1:10:10
movie was discussed the fact that half the banks in Florida
1:10:13
were more or less supported as money laundering operations for
1:10:16
the cocaine trade back in the 70s. And 80s. Great,
1:10:20
Adam Curry: great, great movie. Yes, it's a great, great base of
1:10:24
recommender as a recommender for a second version,
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: not so much.
1:10:28
Adam Curry: I never even watch that. Just the original.
1:10:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh days money laundering. Yes. We're
1:10:36
back major bank, not a slouch, but
1:10:38
Adam Curry: old school with bags of cash. I mean, you've gotta
1:10:41
hand it to them that that's that's very good. I like it.
1:10:45
Good work, boys.
1:10:47
John C Dvorak: What else you got? Well, we have another
1:10:50
congressman to talk about corruption. I think this is the
1:10:52
Congressman that was caught VMC it's an OTC Yeah. This
1:10:56
Adam Curry: is why it's one of ours. One of our Texas homeboys.
1:10:59
Democratic
1:10:59
Unknown: Congressman Henry Cuellar of Texas and his wife
1:11:02
have been indicted on conspiracy and bribery charges. The Justice
1:11:06
Department says the case involves the couple's ties to
1:11:08
Mexico and Azerbaijan. The indictment says Quasar and his
1:11:12
wife accepted nearly $600,000 in bribes from an Azerbaijan
1:11:16
controlled energy company and a bank in Mexico from 2014 to
1:11:20
2021. And exchange were allegedly agreed to help
1:11:24
Azerbaijan and the Mexican bank by advancing their interests in
1:11:28
Congress. Were was at one time the co chair of the
1:11:31
congressional Azerbaijan caucus. And Diane says Claire agreed to
1:11:35
influence bills favorable to Azerbaijan and deliver a pro
1:11:39
Azerbaijan speech on the House floor. Federal disclosures show
1:11:43
that the Congressman traveled to
1:11:46
Adam Curry: excellent This is excellent is this is
1:11:48
John C Dvorak: a guy quit er who is Mexican American. Yeah. Or
1:11:53
just American. But he's, yeah, he's really closer to Mexico
1:11:56
than he's in Texas. And he somehow is representing
1:12:00
Azerbaijan. And nobody's a little bit what what's going on
1:12:03
with this guy?
1:12:04
Adam Curry: Because everyone in Congress is on the take
1:12:06
somewhere? Yes, well, it looks like and what I would hope is
1:12:11
that people who just meme about this and of course, there's a
1:12:15
lot of a lot of people who are not fans of the Democrat Party,
1:12:19
go do that know what it is corrupt people, once you go and
1:12:22
vote
1:12:24
John C Dvorak: going below the Republicans who are in the same,
1:12:27
the Republicans who voted for the big bill and all the rest of
1:12:30
it. I
1:12:32
Unknown: want to talk about that too. Well, disclosers, a show
1:12:34
that the Congressman traveled to Azerbaijan and 2013 Two years
1:12:38
later, quasars office announced an agreement between a Texas
1:12:42
University and an organization called the assembly of friends
1:12:45
of Azerbaijan. The Justice Department to the couple
1:12:48
surrender to authorities today, and were taken into custody.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: But see, this is actually a follow up this. This
1:12:56
is the whole thing. It's like when someone is hanging out with
1:13:01
the representatives from Azerbaijan. I mean, what how is
1:13:06
this the people's business? The people of Texas? How is it
1:13:10
helping? How is it helping the people of Texas?
1:13:13
John C Dvorak: Have you made a relationship between University
1:13:15
of Texas and a school in Azerbaijan? I mean, there's
1:13:18
something there, please.
1:13:20
Adam Curry: So you remember Gallagher, Representative Mike
1:13:23
Gallagher? He's the one that introduced the original let
1:13:28
steel tic toc bill.
1:13:30
John C Dvorak: Yes. And he had y'all remember, and he had a lot
1:13:33
of
1:13:33
Adam Curry: lobbying money from Google. And so I've been waiting
1:13:36
to see where he shows up, because he said he was going to
1:13:40
resign, actually. He, he rescinded that. And he says, no,
1:13:47
no, no, I'm going to resign. So he's going to resign on April
1:13:52
19. But he moved his resignation to April 20. So that he
1:13:58
John C Dvorak: could wait that when some stock options expire?
1:14:00
No,
1:14:01
Adam Curry: that was when we had the TIC tock bill included in
1:14:07
the military industrial complex, defense industrial base bill,
1:14:12
the $100,000,000,000.95 96 Give or take for Ukraine, Israel,
1:14:19
Taiwan. So it was so important for him to vote. And guess where
1:14:26
he shows up? He just got a job at Palantir a fine Military
1:14:32
Industrial Complex company. And that's how it works.
1:14:37
John C Dvorak: I ran into something the other day it was
1:14:39
sponsored by Palantir. And I'm thinking
1:14:42
Adam Curry: I'm spook and here and here we are trying to make
1:14:46
some money with this with an award show.
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: I mean, we're Yeah, but it's gonna be a
1:14:51
winner. It's gonna be a winner jury.
1:14:55
Adam Curry: We're doing it all the wrong way. I have a CBS
1:14:58
John C Dvorak: reporter we wanted to be a couple of corrupt
1:15:00
jerk offs. Yeah, we could go do anything we wanted. But now
1:15:03
let's talk about the set. This is more fun and people
1:15:07
appreciate it.
1:15:07
Adam Curry: It is I was I have a lot more for you imagine having
1:15:10
to be a crook having to be a criminal. I mean, like, hide
1:15:16
money and shell companies and being in
1:15:19
John C Dvorak: helping you like this quasar guy. He got his wife
1:15:23
arrested. Well, that's what you do. That's what
1:15:26
Adam Curry: I mean. Take your
1:15:27
John C Dvorak: wife with her. I'd taken everybody with me. All
1:15:29
my relatives are going down ultimately
1:15:31
Adam Curry: that what's the Congressman Bob? What's his
1:15:34
name? The other Caribbean? Yeah, he threw his wife out there.
1:15:38
Hey, hey, she set it up. Where she did
1:15:42
John C Dvorak: his wife under the bus here, which
1:15:43
Adam Curry: she did. Yes. Awesome. All right. Let's talk
1:15:47
about because, you know, obviously Mike Johnson got he
1:15:52
got the blame for I guess the blame for everything. But then
1:15:58
the besides us bringing this bill to the floor for for the
1:16:04
aid to Israel, which is the the big was the big problem. Then
1:16:07
they said and you're not done, son go out there and talk about
1:16:11
anti semitism being unAmerican. And we need we need a bill. We
1:16:16
need a big virtue signal bill we need so I got some clips. I got
1:16:20
I got a couple two, I'd like to hear yours. Because no matter
1:16:24
what side of the debate you stand on, Congress shall make no
1:16:28
law. What is the actual term to
1:16:34
John C Dvorak: look at? Short and sweet? Yeah,
1:16:36
Adam Curry: this is an actual term. It's not it's not in
1:16:41
French is in French? It's I think it's in French. Congress
1:16:47
shall make no law now see if I can get the Congress shall make
1:16:51
respecting us prohibiting the free exercise thereof or
1:16:54
abridging I'm sorry, of course, I should have no abridging
1:16:57
abridging the freedom of speech or the right of the press or the
1:17:02
right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the
1:17:06
government for a redress of grievances. You know what, while
1:17:09
we're on this before, before we go anywhere, since we're on the
1:17:13
First Amendment, again, Congress shall make no law respecting an
1:17:18
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
1:17:24
thereof. This is the Establishment Clause, which has
1:17:27
been misconstrued into separation of church and state.
1:17:33
And would you know it, there's an ad out there, there's some
1:17:37
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John C Dvorak: called ABC. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. NBC Pomi slash
1:18:24
NBC. Yeah.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: Because this runs on NBC podcasts. It's
1:18:28
John C Dvorak: an NBC podcast, atheist podcast, there's the
1:18:31
atheist podcast, by the way, of course. I'm not you know, anti
1:18:35
Christian nationalists by any means. You are I'm not and I
1:18:39
tell you this rich I was asked by atheists a mile away.
1:18:43
Adam Curry: Code bond Gino. Cool. So anyway, so the
1:18:48
abridging of what this the way I understand it, and I have a
1:18:53
couple clips too, but I want to hear yours first. This
1:18:56
resolution, which really only results in boy do we need
1:19:00
Chevron Chevron deference to come to the Supreme Court soon
1:19:05
resulted in a proposal for the Department of Education to adapt
1:19:11
title six, very similar to what they did with Title Nine where
1:19:15
they said hey, you know, what? Is gender whatever you identify
1:19:19
as you can't be discriminated against. So yeah, dudes, you can
1:19:22
go into the women's locker room and toilets and all that. And
1:19:26
Title six, has now defined what anti semitism is, and then they
1:19:32
bundle that all up, including the illegal chants, which we
1:19:35
discussed, because somehow saying from the river to the
1:19:39
sea, Palestine will be free, is dangerous, very dangerous, then
1:19:45
it could spark something horrible and it's like yelling
1:19:48
fire in a crowded theater, or it's fighting words or somehow
1:19:52
they've determined that they can write regulations. It's not even
1:19:56
a law but regulations against this type of speech and I I
1:20:00
don't think either one of us feel that that is a good idea or
1:20:03
constitutional. I would agree. So where did you get some clips
1:20:09
from and what
1:20:10
John C Dvorak: do I got these clips? This is one of those
1:20:12
discussions that take place on NTD would they bring a guy in in
1:20:17
the yak, yak yak about, about this particular thing with some
1:20:21
ideas? I only clip these because there's points of interest in
1:20:24
here. Here we go. This is
1:20:27
Unknown: in di D.
1:20:28
Joining me now to discuss the act is Jonathan Hoolahan,
1:20:32
General Counsel and Director of Legal operations at Citizens
1:20:35
defending freedom. Jonathan, thanks for joining us. Good to
1:20:37
see you again. Now. The House passed the anti semitism
1:20:40
awareness act in a bipartisan vote. It's now waiting in the
1:20:43
Senate. Now Congressman Mike Lawler who introduced the bill
1:20:46
said on the House floor quote, It is absurd to oppose this,
1:20:50
that it somehow limits free speech, adding that calling for
1:20:53
death to Jews isn't protected speech, it's anti semitic. What
1:20:57
is your analysis of this bill?
1:20:59
Well, this is an interesting bill. I mean, you have
1:21:01
conservatives and progressives that really band together in a
1:21:05
lot of circumstances under the banner of free speech, which I
1:21:08
agree in some circumstances, and here's why. I mean, if you look
1:21:11
at the Constitution, First Amendment, Congress shall make
1:21:15
no law abridging the freedom of the press, or freedom of speech.
1:21:20
So that's the first amendment. Some of the critics of this bill
1:21:24
have said it's too broad for each free speech will be
1:21:27
chilled. And it really is outside the boundaries of the
1:21:31
First Amendment. That being said, this is really content
1:21:35
based restriction. And that's okay sometimes, right. Why
1:21:38
there's obscenity, advocacy for breaking laws, convincing people
1:21:43
to break laws commit mayhem, all of those things are exceptions
1:21:47
to the to the First Amendment. I'm sorry,
1:21:51
Adam Curry: who is this?
1:21:54
John C Dvorak: He had to back it up again. I didn't write it
1:21:55
down.
1:21:56
Adam Curry: Oh, how is this an exception to the First
1:21:58
Amendment?
1:21:59
John C Dvorak: He said the deception the first amendments
1:22:02
are things like threatening somebody sending you know doing
1:22:06
advocating riots. Yeah, but those are all exceptions. Yeah.
1:22:10
First Amendment then he went into a whole bunch of other
1:22:12
things. I thought they were all part of the I think they're all
1:22:16
exceptions to the First Amendment, which is an extension
1:22:20
of yelling fire in a theater but you can't you know, threaten
1:22:23
somebody's life. You can't these are all First Amendment issues.
1:22:28
Right. But
1:22:28
Unknown: listen here, but he says content based restriction
1:22:31
and that's okay. Sometimes right. Whether it's obscenity,
1:22:34
obscenities,
1:22:36
John C Dvorak: obscenity, obscenity used to be against the
1:22:38
law, and it's not will you know, that's a first that's
1:22:42
obscenities
1:22:42
Adam Curry: obscenities, you're you're the biggest violator.
1:22:46
What
1:22:46
Unknown: is advocacy for breaking laws, convincing people
1:22:51
to break laws, commit mayhem, all commitment. Those things are
1:22:55
exceptions to the to the First Amendment fighting words piling
1:23:00
so it kind of falls in that bucket. Now, the issue is, is
1:23:04
this content based restriction with this bill narrowly tailored
1:23:08
to a compelling government interest, that's kind of the
1:23:10
case law where it falls. And I would say I would agree that it
1:23:14
is a little broad using this definition. And they should
1:23:17
tailor it down a little more narrow. To be very specific that
1:23:21
these fightin words are calling for criminal activity. What
1:23:23
we've seen on these campuses is inherent it's, it's not free
1:23:28
speech, it's violent, it's not letting Jewish students pass all
1:23:32
of those things are not protected speech. So I get the
1:23:35
aim of the bill but we got to be very careful when the government
1:23:37
is trying to compel some some type of content based
1:23:40
Adam Curry: restriction. Alright, so let's just let's
1:23:44
just break this one down for one second. From the river to the
1:23:47
sea Palestine will be free. Do you feel that that is a fighting
1:23:51
word? That is a call to
1:23:55
John C Dvorak: do I feel that way? No. Okay. I'm not Jewish.
1:23:59
Yeah, does that I can assume that some Jew Jewish people
1:24:02
might feel that way. Okay.
1:24:04
Adam Curry: They can feel bad about it. But that's
1:24:09
John C Dvorak: your feeling. Oh,
1:24:10
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I misunderstood it's about hurt
1:24:12
feelings I got
1:24:13
Unknown: expanding on the critics side, Congressman Jerry
1:24:16
Nadler called the built misguided adding that by
1:24:19
effectively codifying those examples into title six, the
1:24:22
measure threatens to chill constitutionally protected
1:24:25
speech speech that is critical of Israel alone does not
1:24:28
constitute wrongful discrimination. Help us
1:24:31
understand the title six that's referenced here.
1:24:35
Well, yeah, I never thought I'd agree with Congressman Nadler on
1:24:39
much so but under Title six of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
1:24:43
that ensures university or college programs or activities
1:24:46
that receive federal funding do not discriminate based on
1:24:49
national origin, ancestry characteristics, those type
1:24:53
things. So under Title six, those schools are already
1:24:57
supposed to be doing that. So for example, if they have these
1:24:59
groups They're calling for violence, they're calling for
1:25:03
death, Israel, all of these really horrible things, then
1:25:06
those groups shouldn't be allowed to exist on campus, they
1:25:09
should be investigated and expelled because they're trying
1:25:12
to further a criminal act of getting getting these, you know,
1:25:16
intimidating students those type of things. So they shouldn't be
1:25:19
tolerated in the first place, because it goes beyond first
1:25:22
amendment rights. So I do agree that title six is a mechanism
1:25:26
already that already has mechanisms that can be enforced
1:25:30
without adding to it. And I would be very concerned about
1:25:32
giving the department education more authority. Look, we've
1:25:36
already seen what the department education has done with with
1:25:39
gender. I mean, they redefine gender. So we're gonna give the
1:25:42
department education more authority to to investigate
1:25:47
students, when they clearly can't even get biological sex,
1:25:50
correct.
1:25:52
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Well, good. he redeems himself a
1:25:55
little bit here. Yeah. So we have a gabot with his packs in
1:26:04
his Attorney General packs and packs and the attorney general.
1:26:07
Yeah. So he's suing over Title Nine and say, Now, we're not
1:26:11
going to adhere to that. We're just not going to do that. No,
1:26:13
no, no. And then in the same breath is like, May is Israel
1:26:18
Awareness Month like Ah okay, okay. All right. Let me see what
1:26:26
this guy winds up with on
1:26:27
Unknown: that no Congresswoman Harriet hegman says the bill
1:26:30
provides no actual relief for terrorized Jewish students and
1:26:34
infringes on the First Amendment. Washington poses
1:26:37
saying the bill would create a clear definition of anti
1:26:39
semitism and US law and then enable the education department
1:26:43
to cut off funding to economic institutions that are found to
1:26:47
tolerate such behavior. Based on that definition. Do you think
1:26:51
the bill will effectively address anti semitism on
1:26:54
campuses?
1:26:55
Well, not not particularly I think what will will address
1:27:00
anti semitism is having Chancellor's and university
1:27:03
presidents enforce the law, and not a lot allow these things to
1:27:06
get out of hand by enabling the department education to give
1:27:10
them more authority. Again, Congress delegating their
1:27:12
authority to unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to
1:27:15
conduct investigations is not the answer. When the answer is
1:27:18
the rule of law and using the tools that are already in the
1:27:21
toolkit. It is not lawful to prevent students of Jewish
1:27:26
ancestry to go to class, it is not lawful to threaten or
1:27:29
intimidate. So there are laws on the books, and these
1:27:32
Chancellor's. And presidents of these universities need to show
1:27:35
leadership and show courage. And doing the right thing is not
1:27:39
always easy. But they need to do the right thing here. I'm just
1:27:42
very skeptical, skeptical of giving the department education,
1:27:45
more authority, more deference, especially when it comes to our
1:27:49
constitutional rights. Oh, he
1:27:51
Adam Curry: says the word deference.
1:27:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
1:27:53
Adam Curry: I like that. Okay, he's
1:27:55
John C Dvorak: back in your good graces we
1:27:57
Adam Curry: turd. We totally need to we need I was talking
1:28:00
to, you know, who came through town the other day, we had
1:28:03
dinner, some drinks for his birthday was the oil baron.
1:28:07
Okay. And I'm saying so, you know, you know, we're talking
1:28:11
about what's going on. And you know, he says, you know, should
1:28:14
buy any weird. First of all, you said, all the Democrats he knows
1:28:18
and he travels in Austin. So lots of Democrats. He says, All
1:28:23
my friends are like, they're on the outside. Yeah, go Joe. But
1:28:26
they tell me they're all voting for Trump. Because they don't
1:28:29
want to be ousted from the group from their other Democrat
1:28:32
friends who are probably also lying and are going to vote for
1:28:34
Trump. But he says it's actually bad for us because if Trump gets
1:28:39
in, then the oil prices will kind of stay where they are. And
1:28:43
they're going to start going down. He said that if Biden gets
1:28:47
to go for another, another go around. He says the oil prices
1:28:51
will skyrocket. He says it's been held down artificially, by
1:28:56
a whole bunch of means.
1:29:00
John C Dvorak: Well, I would have asked him, I
1:29:02
Adam Curry: can still ask him, so yeah.
1:29:05
John C Dvorak: Well, the production of oil in this
1:29:07
country is at the highest it's ever been, despite what Biden
1:29:11
says, but it's a fact. Yeah. So I think he's just saying it's,
1:29:16
you know, they're making a big fuss about petroleum because
1:29:19
it's because of the base of idiots. And because of the high
1:29:25
production going on here and does and I guess cutting off the
1:29:28
Russian stuff may be affected the whole the whole scene, the
1:29:32
price of oil is too high now. It's not too low. It's not
1:29:36
artificially low by any means. But he
1:29:38
Adam Curry: says it could double he says it's crazy. I can see it
1:29:41
going up. Yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you what the what the my
1:29:44
boy in the oil business says, you know, I have no other
1:29:47
John C Dvorak: probably as a feeling for it. He's in the
1:29:49
business after all, he told
1:29:52
Adam Curry: the EPA, you know, remember they have all you've
1:29:55
got to shut off these things. You've got leakage everywhere
1:29:58
and data
1:29:58
John C Dvorak: leakage and never find theories that are Yeah,
1:30:01
product is just going out the window he
1:30:03
Adam Curry: says that we have so much basically just free gas
1:30:07
that is just just out there that no one is building any plants
1:30:11
for he says we could set with the week, we can't even give it
1:30:15
away. Gas nicaise natural gas, we could power the country for
1:30:20
1000 years with all this gas that we're not allowed to do
1:30:23
anything with. It's just that it's just there. We also have
1:30:27
John C Dvorak: 350 years that known reserves of coal that we
1:30:29
could power the country with her 350 years. Plus another 1000
1:30:34
years again, we could just be going like crazy for the next
1:30:37
you know. 1500 years, it seems and no one would blink an eye
1:30:44
but no no, no oil.
1:30:45
Adam Curry: No. Yeah. Peak Oil by your electric vehicle people
1:30:50
John C Dvorak: ordering the grid down. I'm driving around
1:30:54
yesterday. I mean, local, local driver. Oh, here we go. The cars
1:30:59
that are parked on the street and elsewhere. Where are you?
1:31:01
Where are they going to charge? You have to charge an electric
1:31:04
car every night?
1:31:06
Adam Curry: Yep. Yep. How about how about Los Angeles? You
1:31:09
imagine being on the 10 with like 30% battery?
1:31:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can imagine. It's no big deal
1:31:20
because you're not moving. And the electric car only uses
1:31:23
energy when it's moving. So you could sell for hours on end. How
1:31:26
about your air conditioner? Well, that would be chewing up
1:31:29
some gas and gas. Alright, right
1:31:32
Adam Curry: I got a couple of clips here from from the nap.
1:31:34
The Napster judge nap. Now when it comes to freedom, you want to
1:31:39
be listened to judge Napoletano
1:31:40
John C Dvorak: by the way. I'm gonna just before you do that,
1:31:43
you know, you brought up this idea of this group of people you
1:31:46
had a name for him that counter podcasters or something
1:31:51
controlled opportunists that couldn't Yeah, those guys.
1:31:54
There's another as a third group. Oh, no. And Napoletana
1:31:58
was part of this third group and he keeps bringing these Amrinder
1:32:02
Ritter he's bringing later got Ritter I think McGregor
1:32:06
McGregor. McGregor is in this third group. And there's a note
1:32:09
there's a there's this Larry White, I think his name is
1:32:13
another expert or No, Larry, some. And there's a bunch of
1:32:16
these guys. And it's like it to me, you because that group that
1:32:19
you defined, I think there's another group and I think that's
1:32:22
this group in the peloton was right in the middle of it? Well,
1:32:25
I
1:32:25
Adam Curry: like him. I like I don't like it when he has those
1:32:28
guys on because, you know, people will say, This is great.
1:32:31
It explains everything to ours doesn't explain anything. But he
1:32:36
nails this one down the way I see this.
1:32:39
Unknown: The House of Representatives voted by
1:32:40
overwhelming numbers to define anti semitism in such a way that
1:32:46
if you repeat certain phrases from the New Testament, you can
1:32:50
be declared an anti Semite. Okay, let them say what they
1:32:53
want about me. Ah, but if you're a college professor or college
1:32:57
administrator, or you're a student on the college, let's
1:33:00
you say this, the college can actually lose federal funds.
1:33:04
Now, this is not the law yet. The Senate hasn't, hasn't voted
1:33:08
on its version of this yet. Joe Biden would probably sign up
1:33:12
because he likes to curry favor with Prime Minister Netanyahu
1:33:17
and his government. But I would think that the first person
1:33:20
harmed by this law would challenge it in the federal
1:33:23
court and the first federal judge that sees this thing will
1:33:28
invalidate it, because Congress shall make no law abridging the
1:33:32
freedom of speech basically means that you decide what to
1:33:38
say and what to listen to. And the government has no say in
1:33:42
making those decisions. Because the whole purpose of the First
1:33:45
Amendment. This is right out of about two dozen Supreme Court
1:33:49
opinions now is to keep the government out of the business
1:33:52
of speech. He's a constitutional lawyer he would know regarding
1:33:56
the House of Representatives anti semitism Bill, did all the
1:34:00
members of Congress who voted for passage of the bill violate
1:34:04
their oath of office? Yes, they did.
1:34:06
Adam Curry: This the way he's taking questions. He's taking
1:34:07
questions. Okay. I
1:34:08
John C Dvorak: want to say you mentioned some of your youth
1:34:10
called this a resolution it appears to be an act. It
1:34:14
Adam Curry: No, it's HR, it's a house resolution. It's a
1:34:18
resolution that resolves the there's no extra law being
1:34:22
written here. They're adapting title six. That's just saying,
1:34:26
Hey, we think you should change title six. Okay.
1:34:29
John C Dvorak: Department of Education goes into the
1:34:30
Department of Education is involved. Yeah, Chevron
1:34:33
deference. These people run deficits got to get in. Sooner
1:34:37
than later they'd knock this crap off.
1:34:39
Adam Curry: Let me just say Congress would impress me. If
1:34:42
they said we're writing a law a bill a law that says you cannot
1:34:48
say this then you would impress me with your big mouth but know
1:34:51
what they're doing is yeah, we gave Jamie usually change a
1:34:54
bikini him because they don't have the balls because they know
1:34:57
it's completely unconstitutional. So it's a
1:35:00
resolution that says, Department of Education, you should change
1:35:05
that
1:35:06
Unknown: great question that violated their oaths of office
1:35:09
because every twice a month I did when I became a state judge
1:35:13
in New Jersey the President did when he became president, a
1:35:16
school board janitor takes and that is fidelity to the
1:35:20
Constitution, which includes the First Amendment, not the
1:35:23
Constitution as they want it to be. But the Constitution as the
1:35:27
courts have interpreted. Great question. Okay,
1:35:29
Adam Curry: we'll do one more. And then we're done with and
1:35:31
under HR
1:35:32
Unknown: 6090. The New Testament is anti semitic hate speech. How
1:35:36
can you swear on the Bible in court now? How can they swear on
1:35:40
the Bible when they take their oath of office? Great question.
1:35:43
And great observation. Great question. Statements made in the
1:35:47
New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the Acts of the
1:35:51
Apostles and St. Paul's letters, to the Hebrews to the Romans to
1:35:55
the Colossians. to the Thessalonians. All of that is
1:35:59
hate speech under this despicable legislation that the
1:36:02
House of Representatives passed yesterday. I don't think the
1:36:05
Senate is going to pass it. And it is inconceivable to me that a
1:36:09
judge would allow it to last, the first judge before whom it's
1:36:13
challenged will enjoin its enforcement immediately.
1:36:17
Adam Curry: So I'm just helping me here, John, I'm reading hr
1:36:20
6090 House resolution. It says at the top enact but this an axe
1:36:26
is the acting, that doesn't mean it's law just helped me
1:36:29
understand make sure I'm saying this right. And it says to
1:36:32
provide for the consideration of a definition, consideration not
1:36:37
this is what we define it as consideration of a definition of
1:36:40
anti semitism set forth by the International House of Pancakes,
1:36:44
a Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of federal
1:36:48
anti discrimination laws concerning education programs or
1:36:51
activities, and for other purposes. So they're asking for
1:36:55
consideration of a definition.
1:36:57
John C Dvorak: They're they're designing something to throw it
1:37:01
to department, I think he would, he said was right. They're
1:37:04
designing something to throw it to her at the Department of
1:37:07
Education to make them do a bunch of differences, you know,
1:37:10
bunch of different Yes, rules, a bunch of rules. And the rules
1:37:14
are only apply that the rules are designed to apply to the
1:37:18
colleges, they get federal funding, so they can hold the
1:37:21
sword of Damocles over their heads. Exactly. And dig and let
1:37:26
them do their own thing. I mean, I think everybody's right,
1:37:29
you're right. He's right. And this is just a chicken kind of
1:37:33
approach. Do not want to do anything, but you know, pass on
1:37:37
it here. You guys go do this for us. Yeah. So we don't have to do
1:37:40
exactly. So we, we can look good in the process by voting. Yes.
1:37:46
Adam Curry: And I will just remind everybody, Chevron
1:37:48
deference, Jeff, Chevron, Chevron, Chevron deference,
1:37:52
Chevron, Chevron deference is under review, we'll come up with
1:37:57
the Supreme Court and what that will force is a complete redo of
1:38:02
how laws are written. So laws will
1:38:05
John C Dvorak: be agencies. Yeah. So the agencies basically
1:38:09
will no
1:38:09
Adam Curry: longer be able to interpret the laws, the laws
1:38:12
will be sent back to Congress, and they will have to define
1:38:16
exactly what the law is and not leave it up to the agencies
1:38:20
which would, which would save our country? If if, if, if if,
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: and of course, the irony, remained, because I
1:38:29
think I wrote this up in his substack. The irony is that the
1:38:35
is all began during the Reagan administration. Yes, during a
1:38:40
case where the EPA was because Reagan told the EPA to back off.
1:38:46
And so they started changing their rules, they backed off and
1:38:50
they got sued by a by a climate change on you know, grew I've
1:38:56
some climate people, climate critters, it was a lawsuit, and
1:39:02
it was, it was against Chevron for not having to follow the
1:39:06
older rules, because the EPA backed off and they and they
1:39:10
would of course, decide, hey, the EPA, it's up to them, they
1:39:13
can do whatever they want. And if they back off on their on the
1:39:17
rules and make things easier on Chevron, that's just too bad.
1:39:21
That's just the way it is. It became known as the Chevron
1:39:23
deference. But then it know that it became an issue once they
1:39:27
went the other way. And they did damage this. The problem is
1:39:29
Republicans and Democrats, the Democrats get in and they crank
1:39:32
the rules up in the other direction. And now our wishes
1:39:35
Oh, this is bad. What was fine during the Reagan
1:39:39
administration, but now it's bad. Okay. Exactly. It's kind of
1:39:44
it's a basic path
1:39:46
Adam Curry: to healing. It would be it would be healing for our
1:39:50
country.
1:39:51
John C Dvorak: But it's but in reality, this shouldn't be for
1:39:56
that case, which was in the 80s it Congress had a little more
1:40:01
responsibility and then handing everything off to these these
1:40:04
bloated was a kangaroo court that was part of that system.
1:40:08
bloated you were part of it. Yeah when I was in the air
1:40:11
pollution district it was a kangaroo court they had their
1:40:14
own hearings and their hearing board and you had to stand up
1:40:17
when the guys came into the hearing
1:40:21
Adam Curry: for the guys in the agency know your
1:40:24
John C Dvorak: court system Wow, they all these agencies do they
1:40:28
have their own little kangaroo court and they bring people in
1:40:31
and the next thing you know there are so and so the head of
1:40:34
the whatever was called the air the board and they get
1:40:37
everyone's stand they all stand like it's a like a real judge
1:40:40
all hail all hell and they all sit down and then they you know
1:40:44
you guys are fined a million dollars for doing this and that
1:40:46
the other thing Okay, well, what are we going to do about it
1:40:49
nothing.
1:40:51
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
1:40:53
current say in the morning to you, the man who put the season
1:40:55
the Karman criminals ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
1:40:58
on the other end, the One Only Mr. John Cena
1:41:07
John C Dvorak: should see boots on the ground feet in the air
1:41:08
subs in the water all the days and nights out in the morning.
1:41:18
Adam Curry: Well, 1986 1986,
1:41:21
John C Dvorak: Sunday sucks.
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Well, I like all 1986 trolls who are listening in
1:41:29
some of them are in the troll room trolling away. And I got
1:41:32
lots of stuff to say, especially the last couple of topics. It
1:41:35
was amazing. And I want to remind everybody that we have I
1:41:40
don't know, we wrote no one really knows how many people
1:41:42
listen and downloads and what and no one really knows. We've
1:41:45
never played that game. But it seems like there's probably
1:41:49
hundreds of 1000s of people. And we're close, like 900,000 people
1:41:53
on a monthly basis who listen to this podcast. And we love
1:41:58
celebrating our executive and Associate Executive producers
1:42:00
that balances out because really only a couple of percentage
1:42:03
points of people who support the show, if everybody this is not
1:42:07
pitching for this, because that's what NPR does. And
1:42:09
they're about to fold. If everybody just supported us once
1:42:12
a month with $5. We I mean, can you imagine?
1:42:17
John C Dvorak: That's the myth. That's that myth of that's
1:42:20
Adam Curry: the myth. Yeah. So the myth, the podcast, but I
1:42:22
want everyone to know that under the value for value system when
1:42:25
you do that, and people say I am broke it. Is there not one
1:42:31
single thing. If you find value in the show, if you're listening
1:42:34
to the show, there's not one moment in the month, where you
1:42:37
can say I'm going to contribute some value back. One less
1:42:41
cappuccino. I mean, it's just priorities. I'm only asked
1:42:44
John C Dvorak: winless cap if everybody okay, let's say I've
1:42:47
cappuccinos four bucks at Starbucks. It's probably more,
1:42:50
it's more Okay, let's say it's four bucks, though we go easy.
1:42:53
If everybody gave us for everybody of let's say close to
1:42:58
a million people gave us four bucks a month. That would be $4
1:43:01
million a month we make and I can see where you guys think
1:43:05
this is possible. I know. It's Wow, we made $50 million. Yeah.
1:43:11
Adam Curry: It's not gonna happen. We do exactly one month
1:43:13
of a show and retire. So it's not gonna happen. It's not but
1:43:17
that's okay. So just from time to time when when you hear us
1:43:22
asking for support. Consider us do that. I mean, I, I live by
1:43:28
the same standard all the time. People say, Oh, you got some
1:43:32
money for this. You got some GoFundMe over here? I live by
1:43:36
the same rule. And honestly, as the giving them makes me feel
1:43:38
good. I do. You probably don't. Do you ever give money to
1:43:42
anything online?
1:43:43
John C Dvorak: I haven't gotten to do the cash flow is so lousy,
1:43:47
horrible man.
1:43:50
Adam Curry: So to balance that out people who clearly have more
1:43:53
value to give and that's just because of their situation. We
1:43:57
give their titles executive and Associate Executive Producer
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ships, this stems from our, from our roots from Hollywood.
1:44:04
Because the producers you think that they're like producing the
1:44:07
movie like no call on the shots? No, you're funding the
1:44:10
operation. So we have producers who produce in many different
1:44:14
ways. A lot of ways and yeah, I mean, we probably can't thank
1:44:19
our art. Well, we can thank our artists. We can't do a review of
1:44:24
only say it's okay. Yeah, but I mean, we're also not gonna have
1:44:27
any art 616 56 Johnson pivot, very funny name. Artists.
1:44:37
Correct record, who I'm correct record hadn't had a wind for a
1:44:41
couple of maybe a couple of years. Been lagging in and
1:44:45
correct. The record came back in with a very confusing piece of
1:44:48
art because, yes, we actually use a piece of art that had kind
1:44:52
of President Biden's face on it. And so Scarah manga, you know,
1:44:56
the Dutch guy, he's like, what is what is it okay, now How to
1:45:00
Use to use a famous celebrity
1:45:04
John C Dvorak: get thinking something that's an exception is
1:45:08
okay and it's going to happen over and over again isn't as
1:45:11
faulty thinking
1:45:12
Adam Curry: it will Kenny been in the same conversation she had
1:45:15
a right she says another fine Dutch artist Kenny Ben says the
1:45:20
only rule is is a funny does does it hit? Does it hit a
1:45:24
nerve? And I would say we're always looking for something
1:45:27
that makes us laugh.
1:45:29
John C Dvorak: Would you agree? Absolutely. The stuff that makes
1:45:33
it unless it's lewd. Yes. Yeah. Because sometimes some lewd art
1:45:37
will make us laugh, but then we're gonna probably in bad
1:45:40
taste.
1:45:40
Adam Curry: Congress is going to outlaw lewd art soon enough.
1:45:43
Yeah. Yeah.
1:45:44
John C Dvorak: But we also believe in and more or less good
1:45:50
taste.
1:45:52
Adam Curry: Okay, so true. It's a fact we had a menthol Joe. But
1:45:57
of course, we know that President Biden is pandering to
1:46:01
the black community, as he calls it. Because it's all just on one
1:46:07
zip code. And, you know, they were banning menthol cigarettes,
1:46:11
and, you know, so now, that's the most racist thing I've ever
1:46:14
heard. Hey, hey, blacks, don't worry, we're gonna let you smoke
1:46:18
them up your Menthols. It's unbelievable. Don't lose the
1:46:22
black vote no, no. And then we even had the hidden a little
1:46:24
thought little little cartoon balloon there. You ain't black,
1:46:28
pointing out. So the hypocrisy of menthol Joe made us chuckle
1:46:33
was a good piece. A you know, correct a record is one of those
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pros and just did a great job. There were some other ones I
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know that we that we considered but no agenda rt generator.com
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is currently down. So hopefully, Sir Paul Couture's, okay, and
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he's working on it. And hopefully, it's not too bad that
1:46:52
we can have it up by the next show. And we appreciate the work
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that all of our artists do. We're sorry, if it comes across
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as confusing. But that's, that's the art world, man. It's how it
1:47:08
rolls man. Hey, man, it's how the art roll the art world
1:47:11
rolls. But and typically we're able to, we're able to critique
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all the pieces, but we can't do that today. So thank you.
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Correct. The record is a perfect example of time and talent given
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Executive producers for episode 1657. We kick it off with Sir
1:47:40
Tommy hawk. from Iowa City, Iowa. 504 24 I have a feeling
1:47:46
that may be $500. And he added the PayPal fees. It's
1:47:50
John C Dvorak: more than $4.24. Okay, so
1:47:53
Adam Curry: is there a reason why 504 Because what was Cinco
1:47:56
Demayo, but it would that would have been 505. So I don't know.
1:48:00
But he does, says ITM AC JCD. Star Wars. Oh, I see. That's why
1:48:06
it's for 504 24 Star Wars Day donation. Yes. May the Fourth be
1:48:11
with you from a future dementia patient listening at 1.5 speed.
1:48:16
Sorry to hear that. Thankfully, that won't happen within the
1:48:18
next four years. So I'll just keep enjoying the best podcast
1:48:21
in the universe. Thanks for all you do. And you see that Mark
1:48:26
Hamill, they rolled him out again.
1:48:29
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, Mark Hanna. When they posted a
1:48:31
picture of him hugging Karina on July Pierre. Ivan have so and
1:48:37
he's and he's also at the podium. This is a violation of
1:48:40
the Hatch Act.
1:48:41
Adam Curry: Yes. And I can I can accentuate that with let me see
1:48:46
I had him here. Using
1:48:49
John C Dvorak: the White House podium to promote Joe Biden for
1:48:51
president is illegal.
1:48:53
Adam Curry: Yes. And then he was backstage in the in the press
1:48:57
office and he recorded and posted this with a with a
1:49:01
picture of laser eye Joe.
1:49:04
Unknown: Hey, I'm Mark Hamill. And I'm voting for Joe Obi Wan
1:49:08
Kenobi.
1:49:10
Adam Curry: And apparently they're handing out aviators now
1:49:13
as swag in the White House. Did you catch that? No, I did not.
1:49:18
He came out with it with aviators all
1:49:20
John C Dvorak: in violation of the Hatch Act. Yeah, well, gee,
1:49:24
Adam Curry: okay. Well, Mark Hamill, though is just like why
1:49:28
would you lend yourself to that? Because
1:49:30
John C Dvorak: you like Joe Do you think Joe sharp sharp as a
1:49:33
tack sharp Yeah. And he's hurt back room so he gets to see Joe
1:49:36
and he's sharp is attacking just doing the zingers out there.
1:49:39
Hashtag
1:49:40
Adam Curry: show art everybody if if you're planning on posting
1:49:44
something that we can use the show art hashtag show art
1:49:47
John C Dvorak: posted on the master. Appreciate
1:49:50
Adam Curry: it. Thank you, sir Tommy hawk. Scott
1:49:53
John C Dvorak: Graham's up he's in Portland, Oregon. He had no
1:49:55
note I couldn't find a note anyway. And he came in with 453.
1:49:59
So in Till He sends us a note which we'll read later, we'll
1:50:02
give him a double up karma. And yes, we will.
1:50:05
Adam Curry: double ups you've got karma moving on with 333 dot
1:50:13
33. We love that sir EA of the tax domain from Clarkston,
1:50:17
Michigan. And he says after wrapping up the bulk of tax
1:50:21
season in April, I thought about the attached explanation of the
1:50:24
US tax system, producers may find it of interest. This
1:50:28
donation takes me past Baron level. And he I will put this in
1:50:32
the show notes. Let me see. He sent us. Let's see what he
1:50:36
called this. He called this the parable of 10 men in a bar.
1:50:40
Yeah, it is a very long I'll post as a PDF, but it's, he says
1:50:46
is one of the best analogies I've seen to explain the
1:50:48
downfall of socialist taxation policies. This is how income
1:50:52
taxes are paid in the US. And I'll post that Sir, we're gonna
1:50:56
take a look at it. It's kind of a brain twister, but when you
1:50:58
look at it, you go ha, ha, okay. Why don't we just print it? Just
1:51:05
print it?
1:51:07
John C Dvorak: Sure, thinking dad's up. He's in Broken Arrow,
1:51:09
Oklahoma at 333 Dots three, three. And he says the first
1:51:14
season of the thinking dad podcast launches tomorrow with
1:51:21
an exclusive interview with Alex Newman, founder of liberty
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1:51:28
standardize education. Yeah, the thinking dad podcast equips men
1:51:34
to think biblically about family, faith, business and
1:51:38
culture. Find it at thinking dad.net Adam, you have an open
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invitation to come on and talk about your faith. Family career
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Season One guests include Rick Green, Dr. George Barna. Kevin
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Sorbo, and many head more heavy hitters and you'd fit right in
1:51:56
perfectly
1:51:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, well we no regrets em. Rick Agnes Sorkin
1:52:03
have
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John C Dvorak: a baby with me native ad looks like to me I'm
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Adam Curry: with it. Yeah but native ad with a promotional
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opportunity to drive up to Broken
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John C Dvorak: Arrow and hanging out I
1:52:13
Adam Curry: might do that. No, email me sir hold my beer is in
1:52:18
Austin Texas right down the road. 333 33 ITM y'all four more
1:52:22
years shout out to Linda Lou Potkin no jingles No. No jingles
1:52:28
no commerce or hold my beer. You know, Ash Ashlynn speed. Our F
1:52:32
for Formula racer. Yeah, so she's out. It was an eagle
1:52:36
Canyon. I think racing today. I saw that picture is a nice one.
1:52:39
Yes, she did you see the picture of her with she's next to the
1:52:43
car. She's got an which has the no agenda logo on it. She's
1:52:46
holding a can of gigawatt Coffee Roasters coffee. And she's
1:52:51
holding up a Linda Lou patcon sign. She got all the sponsors.
1:52:58
John C Dvorak: You get what coffee? I'm running out by the
1:53:00
way boys like this. I love
1:53:03
Adam Curry: it. I love outstanding product. I love it.
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: That was to hold my beard. Then I got Paul
1:53:10
Heaney. He's in Kremmling Kremmling Colorado 33333 working
1:53:16
in Alabama. That's where he is now. Wondering where are the
1:53:20
cicadas and get another week or so to go. And where is Mike
1:53:24
Johnson's mouth? Also I need a deed douching
1:53:29
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
1:53:33
Adam Curry: had a lot of people cracking up that was pretty
1:53:35
good. We move on to de Nancy from San Bruno California. And
1:53:41
she sent in a typed note. Dear John, but I'll read it 33333 I
1:53:47
bought three donuts that Lunardi is yesterday for $8.77 Stopped
1:53:53
at the arco to fill the tank gas was $5.69 Inflation is killing
1:53:59
us. Producers should realize inflation also hurts inflation
1:54:03
also hurts John and Adam they buy groceries too. Yes we do. So
1:54:09
donate he says she says thanks for the deconstruction it's
1:54:12
appreciated sincerely, Dame Nancy of the confused and we
1:54:16
appreciate you Dame Nancy Thank you very much.
1:54:18
John C Dvorak: We have gasoline cars Yeah we do. Well you do
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bill in Charlotte North Carolina 333. He says ITM and thank you
1:54:26
for all your amygdala shrinking media analysis ITM to all the no
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agenda community in the Greater Charlotte Metro. I'm going to
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everybody off. Oh no. Come on some African news. Come on. It's
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Unknown: The Russians are in a separate compound and don't have
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access to US forces or access to our equipment. US
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Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin offering reassurances that US
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troops in Asia are safe. His comments came after Reuters
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reported that Russian military personnel had entered an airbase
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in the capital Miami, which houses US troops. New shares
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junta has told us to withdraw the nearly 1000 military
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personnel the US has in the country. At the same time,
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Russia is seeking to strengthen relations with Nigeria and other
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African countries. Until a coup last year. Niger had been a key
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us partner in the fight against Islamic insurgents.
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Adam Curry: It's really what what do we get out of Nigeria? I
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mean, we we had a we have a drone base there we actually has
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John C Dvorak: probably minerals of some sort I'm sure we
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Adam Curry: listen to this. This is I think a strategic we have a
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drone base in Niger Francophone
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Unknown: West Africa has seen a series of regime changes and
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radical shifts in policy recently. French troops were
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expelled from Niger last year and now they're demanding US
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troops get out get out the US as a regional ally in its fight
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against terror groups in the region and operates a military
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base and $100 million drone base in the sub Saharan desert so
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Adam Curry: there you go 100 million dollar drone base huh So
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Russia is moving in at West China and all of this is just
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the bricks taking over everything
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John C Dvorak: get much publicity for what they do they
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do everything pretty much on the side this May
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Adam Curry: but I mean do you think that the Russians and the
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Chinese and are working together to you know to take over Africa
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and oldest minerals the minerals
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John C Dvorak: well the Chinese I think maybe somebody is yeah
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Adam Curry: that the breaks that we gotta be careful this bricks
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has taken over we're gonna we're gonna be out of luck I think so.
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I think we're gonna be out of luck stuffs gonna be bad
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John C Dvorak: that's happened could happen Yeah. Let's go to
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Adam Curry: we just print some more than the three by three by
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the way.
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John C Dvorak: Maybe the last one.
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Adam Curry: Why? Why maybe the last one because
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John C Dvorak: you know they're getting cheated on like I'm
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there.
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Unknown: Because your haters debridement JC D is failing
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comparing story from ABC CBS
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Adam Curry: All right. Well, the jury is out we're not but you
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know, the next three by three could be a comparison in a
2:04:44
prelude to our award show could be three by three of AI jokes
2:04:49
made about a certain topic,
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John C Dvorak: or a three by three of Joe Biden's voice. Yes,
2:04:54
Adam Curry: there you go. That now you're talking now we have
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now we
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John C Dvorak: do have this is about Biden. condemning the
2:05:00
violence. Here. He finally came out and said something about
2:05:03
what's going on in the common on the college campuses. It took
2:05:06
him forever. And so we know it's got to be the big top of the
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news now, so they get to do three, three networks pretty
2:05:14
much producing the same story with a variation always from
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CBS. But let's start with ABC.
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Unknown: Tonight the dramatic images of authorities moving in
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during the overnight hours cracking down on protesters at
2:05:27
UCLA and driving them out, continuing their efforts to oust
2:05:31
them as the sun came up. University declaring this pro
2:05:37
Palestinian encampment an unlawful gathering, calling in
2:05:40
outside help. Hundreds of officers arriving in riot gear,
2:05:46
firing flashbangs and non lethal ammunition. As officers cleared
2:05:53
a library where anti war protesters had barricaded
2:05:56
themselves inside police releasing photos of ball
2:05:59
bearings and DIY armor they say were homemade weapons. Used to
2:06:06
force criminal charges. And tonight authorities revealing
2:06:09
what they say has become all too common outside agitators of the
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12 people arrested in Portland police a just for actually
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students tonight after days of protests across the country.
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President Biden now speaking out saying order must prevail.
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destroying
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property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law,
2:06:30
vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses,
2:06:34
forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. None of
2:06:38
this is a peaceful protest the
2:06:40
president condemning anti semitism and threats of violence
2:06:43
against Jewish students. He also spoke out against discrimination
2:06:47
against Arab Americans,
2:06:48
there is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind,
2:06:52
whether it's anti semitism, Islamophobia, or discrimination
2:06:56
against Arab Americans or Palestinian Americans. It's
2:06:59
simply wrong.
2:07:00
Adam Curry: But why it is okay. To say no white, white is okay,
2:07:06
no problem then. Take YT YT YT can take it or you can take it.
2:07:17
John C Dvorak: So let's go with MBCs YT.
2:07:21
Unknown: With the clashes between college campus
2:07:23
demonstrators and police reaching new heights today
2:07:26
President Biden condemning violent disruptive protests,
2:07:30
vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down key
2:07:34
Adam Curry: sounds more like faster here.
2:07:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
2:07:38
Adam Curry: Did they spin them up?
2:07:40
John C Dvorak: I think they, it would be probably appropriate to
2:07:43
give to play him at one point to speed that's
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Adam Curry: what they're doing here. They spun his voice up
2:07:48
below it
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John C Dvorak: had to do a side by side button could be
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vandalism.
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Unknown: trespassing, breaking windows shutting down.
2:07:55
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm gonna obsess over this. If I don't
2:07:58
just listen for a second. Where's, let me get your ABC
2:08:02
report.
2:08:04
Unknown: Tonight, the drunk driving them out continuing
2:08:07
their effort to oust them as the sun came up.
2:08:11
John C Dvorak: Whereas a university
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Unknown: declaring this Justinian
2:08:15
against the law order must prevail. destroying property is
2:08:18
not a peaceful protest. It's against the law, vandalism,
2:08:23
trespassing fashion, breaking windows. That's the same as
2:08:27
shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and
2:08:30
graduations. None of this is a peaceful protest, threatening
2:08:34
people, intimidating people. instilling fear in people is not
2:08:38
peaceful protests
2:08:39
Adam Curry: against the better question is Which Biden is it?
2:08:43
That's that's the question. It's
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Unknown: against the law. Nationwide,
2:08:47
more than 2100 arrests have been made connected with campus
2:08:51
protests. Today. Portland State University campus closed down as
2:08:55
police made 12 arrests and cleared the school's library
2:08:59
overnight for arrested at Yale 90 removed from campus at
2:09:02
Dartmouth. And at the University of Wisconsin's Madison campus,
2:09:06
defiant students re establishing their tents just 24 hours after
2:09:10
police disbanded the encampment there,
2:09:12
we're gonna be here indefinitely until they meet our demand. Back
2:09:16
at UCLA
2:09:17
cleanup is underway with Professor Graham Blair, who was
2:09:21
arrested this morning and the encampment is defending the
2:09:23
students right to protest despite some of the tactics
2:09:26
they've used. I
2:09:28
think anyone who is worried about graffiti on buildings on a
2:09:31
college campus used to come visit a college campus. It's 18
2:09:34
year olds who are learning for the first time how to express
2:09:37
themselves.
2:09:38
Adam Curry: Oh, you put him because if you put him to the
2:09:42
leftist generator, he stays the same. Yeah,
2:09:45
John C Dvorak: that's for sure. Now, these two reports are
2:09:48
interesting because ABC concentrated solely on UCLA.
2:09:53
Yes. And ABC is owned by Disney which is where UCLA is this the
2:09:59
call Hollywood, you know, UCLA Westwood, as opposed to NBC,
2:10:05
which had a more kind of eclectic look at all bunch of
2:10:08
different colleges. So that was kind of an interesting
2:10:10
comparison. But let's see what the big boys do at CBS the CIA
2:10:15
Adam Curry: Broadcast Systems.
2:10:17
Unknown: White House officials say it was the sheer number of
2:10:20
violent encounters on college campuses over the past two days
2:10:24
that prompted President Biden to speak out
2:10:27
right to protest, but not the right to cause chaos.
2:10:31
His comments came in the wake of nearly 2000 arrests. More than
2:10:36
30 colleges and universities start during the barricade just
2:10:40
today, protesters were ejected from a library at Portland State
2:10:44
University that they had occupied for three days. Inside
2:10:48
police say they found ball bearings, paint balloons, spray
2:10:52
bottles of ink and DIY armor. Vandalism,
2:10:56
trespass
2:10:57
Adam Curry: breaking DIY armor that's the trash cans are
2:11:00
talking about is this DIY
2:11:02
John C Dvorak: girl that was on one of these tick tock videos
2:11:05
that had a bunch of their armored up now armored is
2:11:08
worried about rubber bullets.
2:11:10
Adam Curry: What do I smell? That's my Armor Spray
2:11:13
Unknown: Bottles of ink and DIY armor,
2:11:16
vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses,
2:11:20
forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. None of
2:11:24
this is a peaceful protest.
2:11:28
Like many protesters, President Biden has expressed concern
2:11:32
about the plight of Palestinian civilians more than 34,000
2:11:36
killed according to the Hamas run health ministry. But when
2:11:41
asked today if he would change his policies towards Israel as
2:11:45
the protesters have been demanding, Biden said simply
2:11:48
know, the unrest is now threatening to become an
2:11:52
election issue. Young people are a key democratic voting bloc.
2:11:57
Biden needs to listen to what the students are calling for
2:12:01
which is an end to a genocide funded by the United States.
2:12:05
So first things first stop funding Israel's in battleground
2:12:10
Wisconsin, Donald Trump argued Biden should have spoken out
2:12:14
sooner. There's a big fever in our country and he's not talking
2:12:17
but Trump also made this unfounded claim about campus
2:12:21
demonstrators they do come from other countries and
2:12:23
Adam Curry: they are paid unfounded claim really this this
2:12:28
is what broke this whole thing is everyone sees it now.
2:12:31
Everybody sees that half these people aren't at graduated 10
2:12:35
years ago. We get cold Pink Lady. Yeah, Madea she's running
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Roman is
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John C Dvorak: like she's in their 70s or something she's
2:12:43
posing as
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Adam Curry: you can just hire her you're gonna hire her and
2:12:47
all her cronies go anyway. Yeah, hold up the sign. Okay. Donate
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No problem. Good pink meanwhile, looks like no deal yet. No deal.
2:12:59
Hamas says What? No deal. No deal. And Bibi says no, yes.
2:13:02
Well, I got a no deal clip. I got an ace no deal.
2:13:06
Unknown: Israel still has its sights on Rafa and we're no
2:13:09
closer to a ceasefire. Hamas has poured cold water on the
2:13:12
optimism surrounding the latest round of talks in Cairo between
2:13:15
their delegation and Qatari Egyptian and American mediators.
2:13:20
The AFP quoted a senior Hamas officials saying there will be
2:13:23
no agreements without a complete cessation of the war and
2:13:27
accusing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of personally
2:13:30
hindering the deal. The proposal on the table would halt fighting
2:13:34
for 40 days and exchange hostages for Palestinian
2:13:37
prisoners. According to details released by the UK negotiations
2:13:41
are set to continue on Sunday. But Israel is yet to send a
2:13:44
delegation to the Egyptian capitol. late on Friday, US
2:13:47
Secretary of State Antony Blinken said accepting a
2:13:50
ceasefire deal should be a quote, no brainer for her mass.
2:13:54
And the reality in this moment is the only thing standing
2:13:57
between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire
2:13:59
is a mosque protesters kept up the pressure on Netanyahu on
2:14:02
Saturday turning out in their 1000s again in Tel Aviv to
2:14:06
demand the government except to ceasefire deal and secure the
2:14:10
release of the remaining hostages Netanyahu is found not
2:14:13
to stop the war until Hamas is destroyed and faces pressure
2:14:17
from nationalists in his coalition to go ahead with the
2:14:20
offensive against the southern Gaza City of Rafa.
2:14:24
Adam Curry: You know and I think I think the problem is Hamas
2:14:26
doesn't have 33 hostages anymore.
2:14:29
John C Dvorak: I think they're all dead but but that was you
2:14:31
get that clip. That's France 24 Because they get France they
2:14:36
kind of left it. They made it sound as though Blinken set in
2:14:39
negotiations. He's
2:14:40
Adam Curry: not he wasn't even there. Was he in no in fact, I
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: have a clip. This is from Al Jazeera which kind of
2:14:46
brings in very interesting who's actually at these negotiations.
2:14:50
Adam Curry: Let me guess CIA tell me the CIA is there.
2:14:55
John C Dvorak: You nailed it
2:14:56
Adam Curry: well, what's what's the clip what's the clip was
2:14:58
ceasefire
2:14:59
John C Dvorak: delegation. AJ got it.
2:15:02
Unknown: Gaza where the humanitarian situation across
2:15:04
the strip is getting worse by the day there have been more
2:15:07
attacks, more displacements, and more suffering. But diplomatic
2:15:12
efforts to reach a ceasefire deal are ramping up all eyes are
2:15:15
on Cairo on Saturday where Hamas delegation is holding talks with
2:15:19
mediators from Egypt and Qatar, as well as the CIA director,
2:15:23
William.
2:15:26
Adam Curry: Now, we should mention, these talks are taking
2:15:30
place in Egypt. And what neither of these outfits are saying is
2:15:34
Egypt is very key to the resolution of all this, because
2:15:39
we know Egypt has received 7 billion euros from the European
2:15:42
Union to build camps, which will be you know, like, I'm sure it's
2:15:47
like holiday, holiday camps, holiday camps, then they'll open
2:15:52
up their border, which is closed, shot tight, and then
2:15:57
some of them will be migrated into Europe. And I'm pretty sure
2:16:03
that pier that we're building there for humanitarian aid,
2:16:06
that's where people will be able to hop off and get onto a boat
2:16:10
and go to America. So Egypt, Egypt is a big player in this
2:16:14
and it's not really discussed, unless you have something in
2:16:17
this next clip, not
2:16:19
John C Dvorak: about Egypt being a big player, but it finishes
2:16:21
off the thought about we have it's actually this guy, that
2:16:25
guy, the other guy in this our CIA guy, which is like, okay,
2:16:31
yeah,
2:16:31
Unknown: all right. The group says it's studying the latest
2:16:34
Israeli proposal in a positive manner. But sticking points do
2:16:37
remain. Israel wants the return of the captives being held in
2:16:40
Gaza, and Hamas is insisting on a permanent end to the war.
2:16:45
Those talks come as the UN warns that northern Gaza is now
2:16:49
experiencing a full blown famine and moving towards the south,
2:16:53
the head of the World Food Program is urging negotiators to
2:16:56
reach a ceasefire as soon as possible to save lives.
2:16:59
Adam Curry: Ah, do you know who the head of the World Food
2:17:02
Program is?
2:17:05
John C Dvorak: I'm going to find out.
2:17:07
Adam Curry: You'll be surprised you're gonna tell me I hear a
2:17:09
Kobs Here it comes.
2:17:10
Unknown: I just want to be very clear, because what you're
2:17:13
saying is significant. And I believe it's the first time
2:17:16
we've heard it. You're saying there is full blown famine? Yes.
2:17:20
In Northern Gaza? FBF. Yes, I am. And there has not been an
2:17:26
official declaration that there is known but you are saying that
2:17:29
based on what you've seen? Yes, it is. Based on what we've seen
2:17:32
in what we've experienced on the ground. Yes. Which is, it's,
2:17:36
it's hard. It's, you know, it's, it's so hard to look at, and
2:17:39
it's so hard to hear also. So I'm just I'm so hoping that we
2:17:46
can get a ceasefire and, and begin to to feed these people,
2:17:51
especially in the north, in a more in a much faster fashion,
2:17:56
but also including, as I said, water, sanitation, medicine.
2:18:00
It's all part of the famine, the famine issue. And it's also
2:18:04
something that we need to make sure that the world understands
2:18:07
we can't let this happen. It just in this day and age when
2:18:12
the when the world has the ability to feed itself 10 times
2:18:17
over. Nobody should starve. Nobody should starve.
2:18:20
Adam Curry: That was Cindy McCain. Widow of John McCain.
2:18:25
She is the executive director of the food World Food Program.
2:18:30
Keep them busy. Interesting, isn't it? Yeah,
2:18:34
John C Dvorak: I have a kind of a side clip is similar that has
2:18:37
something to do with this situation. This is the Houthis
2:18:40
new threat. Have you heard this? No. Okay. The
2:18:44
Unknown: crowd chanting the Red Sea is blocked. The Iran backed
2:18:48
Houthi terrorist group in Yemen has been firing at ships in the
2:18:51
Red Sea that it thinks are headed to Israel as a show of
2:18:55
support for the Palestinian people.
2:18:57
During the rally, a spokesman for the Houthi said that if
2:19:00
Israel proceeds with ground operations in Rafah in the
2:19:03
southern Gaza Strip, then the Houthis would expand their
2:19:07
operations, but it remains unclear exactly how the Houthis
2:19:11
would carry out the threat. Despite that Israel's Prime
2:19:14
Minister says he remains undeterred in achieving Israel's
2:19:18
main objectives in
2:19:19
the war, which are defeating Hamas ensuring Gaza will no
2:19:23
longer be a threat to Israel and returning all the hostages
2:19:28
Adam Curry: are making great efforts. We have already
2:19:30
returned half. And I can tell you that we are determined to
2:19:33
return everyone the ones who are alive as well as the ones who
2:19:36
are dead. Yeah, I got a bad feeling about this. I think they
2:19:41
don't have they don't have the hostages. They don't have and I
2:19:45
think Benjamin not yet Netanyahu is going to get blamed for
2:19:48
dragging his heels. Why you took too long. If he ever comes to a
2:19:54
deal
2:19:56
John C Dvorak: I'm sticking with my thesis you're going to do a
2:19:58
ceasefire and incessantly and they're going to wait, getting
2:20:02
closer to the election, the bracket and then break it
2:20:06
conventions, and then it'll be broken by by the Hamas
2:20:10
terrorists, something will happen. Yeah. And it'll go back
2:20:15
into full blown war and then the protesters can take down to
2:20:20
Democrats at the convention. So
2:20:22
Adam Curry: we've got on the table, we have 40 days of
2:20:24
cessation, which is not long enough for 33 hostages, which is
2:20:31
a magic number. Bringing out Sidney McCain that bugs me. We
2:20:37
had guests so what is she's like? What credit does she have
2:20:40
to become the executive director of the World Food Program?
2:20:44
John C Dvorak: Let's take a look at her bio. And maybe we can
2:20:47
determine which agency she's associated with.
2:20:55
Adam Curry: Taking look at that, and I'm going to play this this
2:20:57
was encouraging to me because I thought when Turkey a would
2:21:01
formerly known as Turkey, and they do this i I'm thinking
2:21:05
they're close to a deal. The complete suspension
2:21:07
Unknown: of trade with Israel, is a significant escalation of
2:21:10
Turkey has diplomatic efforts to pressure Israel, Ankara is
2:21:14
demanding an immediate ceasefire and the free flow of
2:21:17
humanitarian aid into Gaza.
2:21:20
We're taking some commercial measures to force Israel to
2:21:23
increase the amount of humanitarian aid to pass through
2:21:26
and enter Gaza. First, we impose export restrictions on 54
2:21:30
product groups. And as of Thursday, we have stopped export
2:21:34
and import transactions with Israel, covering all products
2:21:37
that we will manage the consequences of these steps
2:21:39
together with our business world. We are not looking for
2:21:42
enmity, and fighting with any country in our region. They tell
2:21:46
me this may cause some troubles. I say that we believe that God
2:21:50
is the only power that can eliminate all troubles, and we
2:21:53
are doing the right thing. When a ceasefire is declared and
2:21:56
enough aid is allowed to enter Gaza, the goal will be achieved.
2:22:01
Adam Curry: I haven't think Turkey wouldn't think they got
2:22:03
enough problems already. So now there's a stopping all trade
2:22:08
they have like they have a lot of
2:22:09
John C Dvorak: I have a little bit of a analysis of what you
2:22:12
just played. Okay. This is the turkey cutting off Israel, this
2:22:16
guy, this is only part of a long tail again, from Al Jazeera. A
2:22:20
long discussion. And this guy makes the claim that Turkey is
2:22:24
taken into shorts for doing this.
2:22:26
Adam Curry: That's what that's why I'm thinking they got to be
2:22:28
close to a deal. Why else would Turkey do this
2:22:31
Unknown: talk he made there, he made it absolutely clear. And
2:22:34
it's not against people said of Israel? Not certainly, but he
2:22:39
single out especially the administration on named Mr.
2:22:42
Netanyahu calling him as an impossible person to deal with.
2:22:46
So until drastic measures taken, the bamboo will continue. So now
2:22:51
I'm sure the loss of revenues in the tourism obvious, very
2:22:56
important, but what would be quite upsetting is that let's
2:23:00
you know, like a Muslim country against the Jewish state type of
2:23:03
thing that will be very wrong because Israeli the tourists
2:23:06
were always welcomed in Turkey. And they're kind of the causing
2:23:10
no danger to them. So they love coming 600,000 people as
2:23:13
mentioned, coming and going. So I think behind it, you know, I
2:23:17
assume especially now the tourism season is approaching
2:23:19
the summer, there will be efforts to probably single up
2:23:23
this particular point. But I'm sure it's going to be a major
2:23:30
line of discussion or important part of this band. But again,
2:23:35
Turkey seems to bear all costs. The decision is there, an
2:23:38
official announced
2:23:40
John C Dvorak: did bear all costs. He also mentioned that
2:23:42
Turkish airways, which by the way is a great carrier, Turkish
2:23:46
airways, it had 15 flights a day going in and out of Israel to
2:23:51
various points and those all been cut offs since the
2:23:54
beginning of this thing and it's costing them an arm and a leg.
2:23:57
That's a big deal. Yeah, so they're losing out the Turks are
2:24:02
losing out. Of course, it's not as though Burdwan has done much
2:24:05
for the economy.
2:24:07
Adam Curry: Hmm, well, maybe maybe we can solve some of this
2:24:12
in the way that that the that Europe likes to operate. Maybe
2:24:17
we can solve this by taking the vote to the people. With the
2:24:22
Eurovision Song Contest united
2:24:25
Unknown: by music. This year's Eurovision slogan couldn't be
2:24:28
further from the truth. The annual feel good celebration is
2:24:32
shrouded by controversy over Israel's participation amid the
2:24:35
war in Gaza. direct threats have been made against a stinger
2:24:39
representing Israel and 1000s are expected to gather in
2:24:42
protest when the event starts
2:24:45
on sugar for producing some quick count on 20 to 40,000
2:24:48
demonstrators coming to Malmo coming from all over Europe. It
2:24:53
will be a very big protests to hold it about 100,000
2:24:57
visitors are expected in Sweden, southwest coast City of Malmo
2:25:00
for the event where the police authorized a Koran burning
2:25:03
demonstration on Friday. In this tense context, security is a top
2:25:10
priority. British police
2:25:12
so there are lots of police on the ground throughout the
2:25:16
reinforcements from all over
2:25:25
events. Another major well conflict is expected to be at
2:25:29
the heart of the event, Ukrainian group Aliona Aliona
2:25:32
and Jerry Hill will be defending the blue and yellow flag. If you
2:25:36
talk a lot about your situation. People hear you so now I feel
2:25:42
that people heard us still now we're here to talk. Yeah, if
2:25:46
they win the deal, say they plan to sell their trophy and donate
2:25:49
the proceeds to the war efforts. Like their predecessors who
2:25:53
raised 900,000 euros in an auction on Facebook.
2:25:56
Adam Curry: I'm telling you this is going to be an interesting
2:25:59
show this year because Malmo is filled with immigrants and their
2:26:03
Brunello is the ground
2:26:06
John C Dvorak: ground ground zero for the Muslims in Sweden?
2:26:09
Yes.
2:26:11
Adam Curry: And then and they just authorize the Quran burning
2:26:15
smart move what yeah, why that's what they just said they just
2:26:18
had it in the beginning. No, I
2:26:19
John C Dvorak: heard that. I'm thinking what are they thinking?
2:26:21
This is like not necessarily a good idea for ratings.
2:26:25
Adam Curry: Are you nuts?
2:26:26
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, they got that idea down. Everybody's
2:26:30
Adam Curry: gonna tune in this year. I can't wait. Who's airing
2:26:33
it this year?
2:26:35
John C Dvorak: Nobody here No, no,
2:26:37
Adam Curry: no, no, no we do we aired here this um, someone
2:26:40
Paramount plus or something. Something that's going out of
2:26:43
business. Did you find out about Cindy, you get any details on
2:26:47
Cindy? Yeah. Is
2:26:48
John C Dvorak: she is rich. Which because she or dad owned
2:26:55
the biggest Budweiser distributor. Oh, so she didn't
2:26:58
even die. She inherited all that money. And she's been one of
2:27:02
those rich liberal fool even though she's the conservative,
2:27:06
technically philanthropist for years and she's I guess she's
2:27:11
been involved with a number of operations that gave her the the
2:27:15
chops to go do this what she's doing money
2:27:17
Adam Curry: money laundering. Just Yes. Just guessing just to
2:27:22
give I
2:27:22
John C Dvorak: think it was she was the Junior Rodeo Queen In
2:27:27
1968 barrel
2:27:29
Adam Curry: barrel. Barrel
2:27:30
John C Dvorak: writer doesn't say
2:27:32
Adam Curry: hey, I got a boots on the ground report from inside
2:27:35
Lockheed Martin. Yes,
2:27:37
John C Dvorak: barrel racer by the barrel racer, thank you.
2:27:41
Adam Curry: boots on the ground from inside Lockheed Martin.
2:27:43
This is the defense industrial base. Lots of money flowing in
2:27:48
and always good to hear from our producers boots on the ground.
2:27:51
They are truly the courageous and get mo nation. We from time
2:27:55
to time get walkthroughs by military brass. Yesterday, it
2:27:59
was what I thought would be the same as usual. The major talk
2:28:02
start as usual, quote, We are safe because of what you build
2:28:06
Blackhawks, yada, yada, yada, and quote, It then took a
2:28:10
serious turn. He went on to say that not only do they expect on
2:28:14
time deliveries, to asking for them to be delivered early. He
2:28:20
said that for the first time in his career. Upper command was
2:28:23
not saying the usual quote, threat of global conflict
2:28:26
existed. Now they're saying it's going to happen soon. Wah wah,
2:28:32
wah wah. But he went on to say that for the first time, the USA
2:28:36
is not the guaranteed Victor, hence the need for faster
2:28:41
deliveries. This is a concerning report. After he was done with
2:28:46
his talk, management asked if anyone had any questions. I
2:28:50
could not let him down or the show. I kind of have a
2:28:53
reputation for asking uncomfortable questions. I
2:28:56
raised my hand and asked why our victory was being questioned. he
2:29:01
rambled about rising powers, destabilize Middle East and all
2:29:05
that. So I looked him in the eye and I simply said, Who? He
2:29:10
returned my gaze, not looking for an Emmy here, but it was
2:29:13
quite intense. He simply said, China. Yeah, I thanked him for
2:29:18
saying it out loud. After this was over, he approached me and
2:29:22
thanked me for the question. He said he isn't allowed to say
2:29:25
China, but he could answer that question. He thought that this
2:29:29
information will be huge. Yes. Because I think this ties in
2:29:35
with the latest Ukraine cash dump. We have billions to spend
2:29:38
now. So yeah, I think that's a very interesting boots on the
2:29:43
ground.
2:29:45
John C Dvorak: We'll see what happens. Well,
2:29:47
Adam Curry: there. It's the pivot towards Indo Pacific.
2:29:50
That's well, there's
2:29:51
John C Dvorak: definitely that and that's no doubt about it.
2:29:54
We'll be building a lot of boats.
2:29:58
Adam Curry: quick little update. He on the big pharma industry.
2:30:03
We've had a lot of heart issues ever since COVID is very
2:30:08
baffling. Jeff Lane is baffling to the medical industry. What
2:30:14
could have changed during COVID? What could it be? Why it's so
2:30:18
hard to understand what could it be? That is causing heart
2:30:22
attacks, particularly young people? Left and Right, we just
2:30:26
don't understand. But luckily, NBC has some answers. For us,
2:30:31
there
2:30:31
Unknown: is more evidence that actual anger is in fact, really
2:30:35
bad for your health.
2:30:36
All right. Previous studies have shown there's a link between
2:30:38
frequent anger and an increased risk of heart attack. But now
2:30:41
there's a new study out in the Journal of the American Heart
2:30:44
Association that is helping explain why that is. Yeah,
2:30:47
so NBC News Medical contributor, Dr. John Torres is here to walk
2:30:51
through it. He's very going to calmly walk us through this. So
2:30:54
actually, if you have an outburst of anger, it shows up
2:30:57
in your heart. It does.
2:30:59
And what we've known is that anger over time, these strong
2:31:01
emotions can really have an effect on your heart increased
2:31:03
risk of heart attack, increased risk of stroke, cardiovascular
2:31:06
issues, but what this study showed is even one episode and
2:31:09
these episodes as they multiply over your life can cause the
2:31:12
impact isn't that one episode can cause similar type
2:31:15
situations, and can you increase your risk? Well, these type of
2:31:18
things, so
2:31:18
does that like, like Rayji, or irritation?
2:31:23
In the study, they had the students looking at a study just
2:31:26
reviewing something that happened in their past that made
2:31:28
them anger. So they were just reliving an angry episode. So it
2:31:31
doesn't necessarily have to be that heavy of an episode. So
2:31:33
if you're in traffic one day, and you're raging and you yell
2:31:36
at your kids later that week, and you're raging and all these
2:31:38
things, is it regime cumulative it
2:31:40
is. It is cumulative. And what happens is, is when this is
2:31:43
happening on the blood level set stage here, so think of it like
2:31:47
a straw, your blood vessels are like a straw that you want them
2:31:49
to be wide, so it's easy to get that fluid through the blood to
2:31:52
get to the organs. When you have an anger episode, those blood
2:31:55
vessels constrict. So it's like a straw, you're trying to get
2:31:58
the same fluids through and it's not working. It's not giving to
2:32:00
the organs, the heart and the brain as well. Plus, if you have
2:32:03
athletic sclerotic plaques, if you have plaques inside there,
2:32:06
they'll break off and that can cause a heart attack or stroke.
2:32:09
on that level when you have that episode, and those can build up
2:32:13
over time.
2:32:14
Adam Curry: I will say that in the in October, it will be 17
2:32:19
years we've done this podcast, I do not think I can remember a
2:32:22
single time that you were mad are Rayji as they say, here at
2:32:26
NBC.
2:32:27
John C Dvorak: I'm happening mad now.
2:32:30
Adam Curry: I don't think I've ever heard. And this is why
2:32:33
you're still with us.
2:32:35
John C Dvorak: It's clear. Yeah, yeah, I think maybe not getting
2:32:38
the VAX is probably more responsive. No, no, no, no, no,
2:32:42
Adam Curry: no, no. What are you saying? Let's talk about how to
2:32:44
handle your anger.
2:32:46
Unknown: Could you raise yourself in one episode and
2:32:49
potentially could you know, if you're young, if you're healthy,
2:32:51
and you have these raging anger episodes, it's probably not a
2:32:54
big deal. At that time. If you're older and you have one
2:32:57
issue, we've all seen the movies where somebody attacks attacked
2:33:02
over time, these could cumulate and these could cause problems.
2:33:05
And that's what the researchers are saying.
2:33:06
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, that's how to handle you're angry. This
2:33:09
is a short clip. This is how you hide you. How do you handle your
2:33:12
anger? How do we do it?
2:33:13
Unknown: How do you get anger out? What's
2:33:14
Adam Curry: the best way so how do you get anger out? How do we
2:33:16
get it out?
2:33:17
Unknown: Get it out of my heart and the best thing is just to
2:33:19
use these calming techniques and they sound cliche, and the
2:33:22
biggest one my wife taught me this you know breathing
2:33:23
exercises into the nose out to the mouth they help it really I
2:33:27
can't I can't
2:33:28
Adam Curry: stand this breathing you know, how
2:33:30
John C Dvorak: about the heavy bag
2:33:34
Adam Curry: it's so it's so unbelievable, that it is
2:33:39
believable. And then I'll just wind up with believing this
2:33:42
totally believe I wind up with this. And now as far as we know
2:33:46
the only countries where you can advertise direct to consumer for
2:33:51
pharmaceutical products is the United States and New Zealand I
2:33:54
do you not think Canada allows this but the CBC, I mean every
2:34:01
everything is so corrupt. They they had someone sent me three
2:34:05
different pieces, all the same the imagery, you know injecting
2:34:10
into your leg the same girl the same story because fear not
2:34:15
Canadians, even though this is not a commercial you know as
2:34:18
well can get the weight loss shot. Canadian
2:34:21
Unknown: struggling with obesity will have a new treatment option
2:34:24
next week. The makers of ozempic say their weight loss drug would
2:34:28
govi will be available in Canada starting Monday. Bamford has
2:34:32
more on the risks and the rewards
2:34:35
Adam Curry: are different. What happened to benefits? It's not
2:34:39
just a risk, it's a reward now, risk and rewards Hey, I got a
2:34:44
reward for taking this medication and the rewards
2:34:48
Unknown: a different name with different packaging but experts
2:34:51
say we'll go V is essentially a drug Canadians already had
2:34:55
access to will
2:34:57
go Mi is ozempic and Mozambique is This whole coffee I love
2:35:01
Adam Curry: this. So just so you know, it's the same product as
2:35:05
the one you've been hearing about from the Kardashians so
2:35:07
you can take this it's ozempic don't worry it says we'll go we
2:35:10
but it's so what you're
2:35:11
John C Dvorak: saying is that this is a native ad which is
2:35:14
should be illegal in Canada completely
2:35:17
Unknown: ins already had access to will go
2:35:19
V is ozempic and ozempic is will go V will go V
2:35:23
is classified as an anti obesity medication. ozempic is a type
2:35:27
two diabetes drug both contain the molecule semaglutide. It
2:35:32
helps us with feeling fuller
2:35:34
longer, and helps her brain understand that we're in good
2:35:39
health Canada approved will go vie for weight loss back in
2:35:42
2021. But ongoing supply shortages made it unavailable to
2:35:47
Canadians, which is why doctors commonly prescribed ozempic as
2:35:51
an off label drug for obesity management. Now with a drug
2:35:56
labeled for obesity, many hope it improves access for patients
2:36:00
who really need it. Hopefully
2:36:02
the bias around prescribing a medication for weight management
2:36:07
changes.
2:36:08
Adam Curry: That's the marketing lady. She's literally saying,
2:36:11
hey, hopefully the bias against prescribing this
2:36:14
John C Dvorak: so I'm gonna stop you again. Yeah, what you're
2:36:17
doing is playing what appears to be a native ad for drugs. In
2:36:23
Canada, which should be illegal on the CBC
2:36:26
Unknown: doctors warn against using these types of drugs for
2:36:30
cosmetic purposes. But experts say the class of medication has
2:36:34
been around for 20 years to be safe for those taking it as a
2:36:39
long term obesity medication. Novo Nordisk the maker of the
2:36:43
drugs plans to ramp up production as well go v makes
2:36:46
its way to Canada Monday. While there are other anti obesity
2:36:50
drugs. Some doctors say this one opens the door for cheaper, more
2:36:55
effective treatments down the line. Alison Bamford, CTV News,
2:37:00
Regina.
2:37:01
Adam Curry: I always had to leave the Regina and it just
2:37:03
just makes
2:37:04
Unknown: me laugh. Yeah, rhymes with always makes me laugh. So
2:37:07
yeah,
2:37:07
Adam Curry: it's good. It'd be oh, this been a it's been
2:37:09
approved in Canada for three years. But it's coming. It's
2:37:13
coming. We got a new shipment. It's in it's coming in. It's
2:37:16
good. We're all good to go.
2:37:19
John C Dvorak: Well, that was depressing.
2:37:22
Unknown: I'm gonna show my son moved by Jonah to no agenda.
2:37:25
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
2:37:27
fun.
2:37:35
Adam Curry: We want to thank a bunch of people who supported us
2:37:38
between the Associate Executive producer level and the $50 level
2:37:42
and John will go through this list and mentioned some of the
2:37:46
people and maybe some of their short notes if applicable.
2:37:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Parker starts us off from Billings,
2:37:52
Montana. 133. Ray Aaron, follows up from our Keisha, New Mexico
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at 105 35. And talking about notes I will mention this. This
2:38:04
is a thank you to Adam Oh, for reading legislation. I
2:38:09
appreciate you taking one for the team. Challenge he also
2:38:16
challenges all no agenda producers to join me at
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sustaining donors. There you go. Good man. Good man. Thank you,
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$100 Sir Bob fussy Buffett's prophecy served prophecy. Easy
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for you to green note field Park, New York. He wants some
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help. How selling kurma we'll put that at the end for him. And
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make a note. Yep, nope. Hey, Sir Arthur gobbets in Zaandam.
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Holland. 808. Loves boobs loves cats in there. Sure. Matthew
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from Tinley Park, Illinois 808 Birthday list, you got it? Kevin
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McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina 808. These are all boob
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Fernanda Fredette for Nan Deena Beach, Florida. 75 bucks. Third
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going to rate read name and the locations on half of them for
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some reason is weird. But this is the Cinco de Mayo donation in
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John C Dvorak: older nine.
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Adam Curry: There you go.
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John C Dvorak: Matthew Adams, Thomas Flint and Kevin McLean
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John C Dvorak: I caught it. Indeed. Rita Harrington Bryant
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Adam Curry: he needs to he needs to call out Brian Lee as a mega
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John C Dvorak: Don't do a mega douchebag mega sur Jules reed in
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boiler your taste and
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Adam Curry: then he says I think he may have sent me that that
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Gallagher resigned took a job with Palantir and he says he
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can't stop thinking about human meat in his ground beef. Hey,
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thanks for that.
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that Blue Mountain. Do they know? Kirkpatrick? And that's
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$50 and that's gives me the $50 donors. I'm gonna go through
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Adam Curry: man we say happy birthday to Sir Matthew
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celebrates today along with Sir Jules read the endorse the
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adorable Devorah he didn't mention him at all today hello
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fi adorable happy birthday from grandpa John and Uncle Adam.
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Stephanie turns 30 tomorrow and Tom Beals is Happy Birthday to
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change don't change don't want to be and we've got some
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is from Waldo from lower Alabama. He says he reached
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knighthood after a double donation for show 1500 But he
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never got around to claiming his knighthood as it didn't know as
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he didn't know his ring size. Now we do have a handy ring
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sizing guide and no agenda rings.com So I guess he's
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figured it all out and he wants his night name to be sir Waldo
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of the lake of lower Alabama. And he wants he wants our Burg
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UGA doll and West Indies salad at the round table for his meal.
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Are you familiar with the art Bergdahl product?
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John C Dvorak: No, I'd had to look it up well
2:46:54
Adam Curry: it's over here at the roundtable guys could you
2:46:55
just slice it up for him that whenever he wants this it tastes
2:46:58
like like chicken Give me your blade man. Let's bring this guy
2:47:02
up. Let's get him in here you go there we go. All right. Well,
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no, come on. I got it here for you that are Berg O'Donnell.
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Regardless of your weird choice of roundtable accouter moms I'm
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very proud to pronounce the as Sir Waldo of the lake of lower
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Alabama for you my friend. We have Arenberg and oh darling
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West Indies salad. Also hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay
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over to no agenda rings.com You already figured out that you can
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get your ring size there also, we will send it along with some
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wax to seal your important correspondence with this night
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ring which is a signet ring and a certificate of authenticity.
2:48:03
And welcome to the roundtable. The no agenda Knights and Dames
2:48:07
know what?
2:48:14
We got a couple of meetups taking place. It's always
2:48:17
amazing when I'm talking to people about no agenda and they
2:48:19
say well, what do these meet up? Say? Have you ever been to one
2:48:21
now what what happens there? So you have to go to one. It's it's
2:48:25
an amazing experience. Something that cannot be explained. You
2:48:29
just have to hang out at one. It's the lowest key gathering
2:48:32
you'll ever imagine. And it's weird because you walk into a
2:48:35
space with no agenda people. And you kind of see it. He was like,
2:48:41
You look around like That's them. And then you'll always
2:48:44
hear Hey, in the morning in the morning, in the morning we go
2:48:47
and then you're part of the gang. It gives you connection
2:48:50
which always results in protection as witnessed by I
2:48:54
believe the 52nd 51st and 52nd meetup that Leo Bravo was
2:49:00
organized in Los Angeles
2:49:02
Unknown: Hi everybody its Leo brava meet up number 51 The
2:49:05
phone around everybody has greetings to share with us
2:49:08
a John and Adam ITM This is certainly a chem full pop just
2:49:11
saying we're in the communist lands and say that's true tea
2:49:14
guys. This
2:49:15
is Slick Rick and in the morning. This is Dave is my
2:49:18
first outing with the group here my first meet up Nice to meet
2:49:21
everyone in the
2:49:22
morning. This is Sam Hambone having a great time and
2:49:24
tolerance. Hi this is
2:49:25
Ryan first meet up thanks Max wife Greta for slapped me in the
2:49:28
mouth. Hi, this is Greta here at our second official meetup and
2:49:32
first la meetup. And we're really grateful to Leo for
2:49:34
hosting these in the morning in the morning. This is Brian.
2:49:37
Thanks for all you do Adam and John. Hi.
2:49:41
In the morning. I'm Tommy and chickening out. Hi, my name is
2:49:49
Jeff one Douglas Angel. May the Fourth be with you. Hi, this is
2:49:52
Tommy in the morning. This is my second meetup and I've had an
2:49:57
amazing time and I really hoped During during the fourth be with
2:50:04
you
2:50:06
Adam Curry: I love hearing that so when people say is my second
2:50:09
or my first that's really an amazing time. That's because
2:50:11
that's Tuesday love at Memphis had the no agenda bad beer
2:50:15
protest meet up yesterday. No agenda Knights and Dames. This
2:50:18
is tech guy tie from the Memphis no agenda, bad beer protest and
2:50:24
I just wanted to say that we're here celebrating good beer at
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high cotton and I'm joined by Fred C for tudo I put the C and
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cranky crackpot and see i A missus
2:50:42
Unknown: sir No, please wear beer good plains bed. And this
2:50:47
is Luke Cumberland rip from Oxford, Mississippi in FEMA
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Region. 420. Giving a cold shout out to lamal spells well bool
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Doozer and trans Zeald calling you out and
2:51:03
Adam Curry: none of us are douchebags in the morning. We'd
2:51:08
like to see a meet up with zero douchebaggery congratulations.
2:51:12
Great meet up report and our final one comes from Arlington
2:51:15
Virginia. Home of many spooks the Sir William bachelor party
2:51:19
edition This
2:51:19
Unknown: is the certainly with Pennsyltucky bachelor party this
2:51:22
is rounding wishing Sir William and his three nipples a happy
2:51:25
marriage outstanding. I want this. I'm not sure what it is.
2:51:29
But I'm so happy to hear that sir. William is going to be an
2:51:31
honest man.
2:51:32
Hey, congratulations Sir William Jeff from Springfield know what
2:51:35
they say about the wedding night bingo Boom shakalaka and from
2:51:38
Texas ITAM
2:51:39
CC girl can't wait for the nuptials, Sir
2:51:42
Chris Aloha from the Aloha state of Arlington. Jason, the new guy
2:51:47
from Arlington.
2:51:48
I just wandered in. Hey, this is Dave. Congratulations baling hay
2:51:53
This is Sir William of West Pennsyltucky don't forget to wax
2:51:56
your ceiling
2:52:01
Adam Curry: Yes, nuptials we've married many couples here on the
2:52:04
no agenda show and the couples that no agenda together stay
2:52:07
together. It's a fact to look it up. Follow the site. Yes. We've
2:52:11
got a couple of meetups taking place actually one today the
2:52:13
Northwest just meet up which is well underway the vault bistro
2:52:18
and wine bar in Blaine Washington. On Thursday. Our
2:52:20
next show day that's the ninth the not that Thursday, the other
2:52:24
Thursday meet up 630 in city park Denver Museum of Nature and
2:52:28
Science in Denver, Colorado. The third laden amygdala check 730
2:52:33
Amsterdam time stops Brauhaus Brauhaus Laden in late in the
2:52:39
Netherlands, that's where all the smart people are. That's
2:52:41
where all the university people are. And coming up in the next
2:52:45
next month. We got Edmond Oklahoma and you'd have with
2:52:49
Indiana Charleston, South Carolina, Charlotte, North
2:52:51
Carolina, Richmond, Virginia Fort Wayne, Indiana. Big Austin
2:52:54
Texas barbecue on the 18th at Baron Scott's home. Make sure
2:52:58
you check that one out Hagen I'm kicking him Connecticut on the
2:53:01
18th Norwood mess a shoe test guess they're going to be
2:53:04
shooting in masa shoe test on the 18th San Diego California
2:53:08
Keene New Hampshire Athens Greece on the 22nd would love to
2:53:11
receive a report from you guys. Reno, Nevada, Philadelphia,
2:53:15
Pennsylvania and Tulsa, Oklahoma many more on the calendar no
2:53:18
agenda meetups.com You You definitely want to try one of
2:53:22
these out. It's it's free to be a part of it. You can hang out
2:53:26
you make friends you will probably make friends that you
2:53:28
will have for a long time if not for life and you might even find
2:53:31
your mate there no agenda meetups.com If you can't find
2:53:34
one near you start one yourself. It's easy
2:53:39
John C Dvorak: to go hang out with you to be triggered. You
2:53:50
want to be where everybody? Is like
2:53:59
Adam Curry: I appear to have a cornucopia of ISOs here so you
2:54:02
want to start with yours? Yeah, she
2:54:03
John C Dvorak: had dropped the ball last time. Sure.
2:54:07
Adam Curry: Which one do I start with?
2:54:08
John C Dvorak: Well, let's see what we got. Hold on. Um, I
2:54:14
think cherry, cherry. Cherry. Oh my. Oh my goodness.
2:54:23
Adam Curry: The hard to hear. All right. What else you got?
2:54:26
John C Dvorak: WTF?
2:54:30
Adam Curry: Okay. Let me try a couple on Yeah, Google
2:54:36
John C Dvorak: smooth. Mm hmm. Like that one. Yeah. Okay,
2:54:42
Unknown: and it's so juicy. Come
2:54:43
Adam Curry: on. Come on.
2:54:46
Unknown: Come on. unconstitutionally gag.
2:54:50
Uh huh.
2:54:51
Adam Curry: We have. Wow. Uh huh. I think this is the one
2:54:55
this has got to be the one. It tastes like chicken. Come on. At
2:54:59
least one One of those was good. Well, actually
2:55:02
John C Dvorak: two of them were good. The one you liked at the
2:55:05
beginning I thought actually was good even though I poo pooed it
2:55:07
but wow was always a winner, but how about Wow, it tastes like
2:55:12
chicken.
2:55:12
Adam Curry: Let me try. Let me see. Let me see if we can make
2:55:15
this happen.
2:55:16
Unknown: Wow, it tastes like chicken.
2:55:20
Adam Curry: I don't know if it's necessary. I can do that.
2:55:22
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, let's try this other one. What was the
2:55:24
first one again? smooth,
2:55:26
smooth, smooth. Go with that.
2:55:31
Adam Curry: Okay, we'll go with that. I'll go with that. And you
2:55:34
go with this. So do you? Good
2:55:43
Good, good. Good news. Yeah, that's right. John's
2:55:46
John C Dvorak: gonna wrap it to good news is today but why
2:55:52
Adam Curry: don't you just split it up with a good news jingle in
2:55:54
between. And we're gonna No,
2:55:56
John C Dvorak: no, no stop after the first one. Now the reason I
2:56:00
this one I just wanted it was it was for last week's show. And I
2:56:04
liked the story so much, but it was botched by the producers in
2:56:08
the room in the room there when they got into their little
2:56:11
editing suite and they cut their kid off and they cut the end off
2:56:15
and just a mess. But I liked it so much as a basic story. So the
2:56:18
short end is super short. And I want to play this is about a
2:56:22
little kid who was buying the school lunches for everybody
2:56:26
else in the school that couldn't afford him because they didn't
2:56:29
have the money or whatever. It just is a great story.
2:56:32
Unknown: We fifth grader in Missouri is raising money to pay
2:56:34
our fellow students lunch debts.
2:56:36
It's important for kids to eat like I don't think they can make
2:56:40
it through the day without eating a school. 111
2:56:44
year old Deacon Kramer has raised close to $1,000. So far,
2:56:48
the school doesn't deny any children launch but that has led
2:56:51
to a lot of unpaid bills. Kramer has made it his mission to raise
2:56:55
as much as he can before he heads off to middle school in
2:56:58
less than two weeks. Ah,
2:57:00
Adam Curry: where was this? Where was this? Where did this
2:57:01
good news take place?
2:57:03
John C Dvorak: That's a good question in the Midwest
2:57:05
somewhere,
2:57:06
Adam Curry: of course not
2:57:07
John C Dvorak: in the city. That question wasn't in Nottingham,
2:57:11
here we go. Here's the here's the highlight. Good news day.
2:57:14
This is a dog for a dog that somehow was in a hole just
2:57:20
abandoned in the mountains and they found him and brought it
2:57:23
back to health and shot him a shot of lashing dogs story.
2:57:28
Unknown: New intent a dog is lucky to be alive after being
2:57:30
found stranded on Lookout Mountain in Phoenix. The Arizona
2:57:34
humane society says that back on April 24. They got a call about
2:57:38
a two year old sharpei mix, who was hiding in a small cutout on
2:57:42
the side of the mountain. When rescue crews got there. They say
2:57:46
that the pup was dangerously dehydrated, and may not have
2:57:49
survived much longer if she wasn't found. Officials say that
2:57:53
she was scared but was open to receiving help from rescue
2:57:56
crews.
2:57:57
Honestly, she was too weak. She just did not want to walk at
2:58:00
all. So we did kind of funky crazy holder like a baby sort of
2:58:05
situation. And she actually really just relaxed and seemed
2:58:08
to enjoy being carried down the mountain. But it was a very
2:58:13
teeny tiny rocky trail that was pretty slick. And so Tracy and I
2:58:17
took turns carrying her down the mountain and she was just an
2:58:21
absolute angel. She knew we were getting her to safety and then
2:58:25
we got her into our trauma hospital at the Arizona humane
2:58:27
society.
2:58:29
She does look so sweet and calm while the pup was treated by
2:58:32
staff at the Humane Society and we're told that she's doing
2:58:36
really well now. She earned the name bright eyes since the
2:58:39
person who found her only happened to see her due to those
2:58:43
amber eyes that were reflecting behind her hiding spot.
2:58:48
She's a gorgeous gorgeous one. Yeah,
2:58:51
John C Dvorak: this is one of those this is an abandoned COVID
2:58:54
dog the way I see it Yeah,
2:58:56
Adam Curry: yeah, bright eyes is not a good name for dog though
2:58:58
because that reminds me of Watership Down where they shoot
2:59:01
the mom you know you don't know Watership Down you remember that
2:59:06
Disney movie with it? When they shoot the mom killed? No.
2:59:11
John C Dvorak: That was like depressing films.
2:59:14
Adam Curry: It was a kid movie is what traumatized millions of
2:59:17
objects around the country around the world. That's it for
2:59:22
no agenda for today. Thank you all very much in the troll room
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you've been a delight to hang out with. Thank you for those
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you downloading the podcasts. If you're listening live at troll
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room.io You can hear the airline pilot guy coming up next haven't
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from FEMA Region number six. The heart of the Texas Hill Country
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in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley.
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MoPhO is a hui Hui, and such
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Unknown: this is the last stand.
3:00:20
trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses forcing
3:00:24
the cancellation of classes and graduation. None of this is a
3:00:27
peaceful protest
3:00:33
movement which is sweeping this country. Many students this is
3:00:41
about much more than Gaza. It's about policing to speech
3:00:45
from President Nixon that he was going to have a Cambodian
3:00:49
invasion and expand the war.
3:00:51
Police, like he says has just my office last
3:00:55
device and LSVT the turns to Barry and she says why are they
3:00:59
doing?
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blips with according to Last
3:01:05
night saw a violent raid executed against anti war
3:01:08
protesters at UCLA
3:01:11
events of May 4 1970. We know the Vietnam war was going on.
3:01:16
And it's a very active spring. What is clear is that many were
3:01:19
not students were older than
3:01:22
3040, as
3:01:23
well as angels of violence came
3:01:26
from pro Israel protesters, and
3:01:29
then had helicopters buzzing to campus. They brought the war
3:01:33
home designs,
3:01:34
protesters also launched tear gas or film spraying chemical
3:01:37
agents like skunk on protesters.
3:01:43
So many students, this is about much more than cars. It's about
3:01:48
policing, too.
3:01:50
And so at a certain point, the National Guard came in and clear
3:01:53
them out forcibly with bayonet, and a number of the students
3:01:57
were actually stabbed.
3:01:59
trespass, breaking windows shutting down campuses forcing
3:02:03
the cancellation of classes in graduation. None of this is a
3:02:07
peaceful protest. And
3:02:08
they all go up the hill and they all turn in unison and they all
3:02:14
shooting in it. And they shoot at the student better like 300
3:02:21
feet away.
3:02:41
Bars are blazey so green bars are glazy so great I don't
3:02:49
understand that small crazy so far reaching so far
3:03:03
NASA satellites can see that NASA satellites can see the NASA
3:03:09
satellites to see that
3:03:11
NASA satellites
3:03:19
million miles away in space
3:03:31
John C Dvorak: or a million miles away Louie Bellson parts
3:03:40
actually fire
3:03:44
Adam Curry: directed energy weapons are a thing.
3:03:49
John C Dvorak: And it was a new thing
3:03:54
Unknown: falls out. And he's really military leadership for
3:03:57
clearly standing down.
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But the point is, and so these governments all need a
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boogeyman. I'm your boogey man somebody can have a bunch of the
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troops stand down. I mean, this is 911 all over again on your
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break free, overrun. Go in. There's real support from us.
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There's a lot of back channel wink wink going on here.
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suitcases full of cash. It is true. I'm your Boogeyman. And so
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these governments all need a boogeyman. No, I
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don't support him. You're 100% right. We don't support them.
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Honestly. I'm your boogey man. I looked it up Israeli
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intelligence created from AWS.
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General Michael Grady calls out
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there's no way
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Israel support so much. It is true.
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Adam Curry: I looked it up. No, I
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Unknown: don't support a mask.
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I mean, this is 911 all over again. But the point is I'm your
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suitcases full of cash. There's a lot of back channel wink wink
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going on here. I looked it up. And so these government's all
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need a bus Email right free over
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borak.org/in A smooth
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