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John C Dvorak: And out dressed
in a chicken, Adam curry Jhansi
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Dvorak they may 5 2024 This
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Adam Curry: Year Award winning
give me the assassination
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episode 1657
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Unknown: This is no agenda
enjoying
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Adam Curry: a classic
clothesline and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here theories and
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numbers six and the Morning
everybody hurry in
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all
0:24
saying don't shoot your dog on
Josie Devorah
0:32
Adam Curry: was didn't make it
through. I had no idea. I've
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been good all morning. And
0:37
John C Dvorak: then oh, yeah,
now getting the histamine up and
0:40
you're going to be coughing all
show. Oh,
0:42
Adam Curry: it was bad
yesterday. Yes. It's all of a
0:46
sudden we got
0:47
John C Dvorak: I thought you had
a heap as all over the place
0:49
that prevent that problem. No,
0:51
Adam Curry: that would that was
in the old house. Gotcha.
0:53
John C Dvorak: Well, it looks
like you need to move him over
0:56
to the new house. Yeah.
0:59
Adam Curry: It's crazy. You
know, we This is unheard of this
1:02
global warming is climate change
is great, because it's been 70
1:05
degrees for most of the week,
which and but wet and raining,
1:09
which we obviously needed to
that's all good. And something
1:16
happened and just a cycle.
1:19
John C Dvorak: Everything popped
at once. Ah. And we
1:21
Adam Curry: also have this
invasion of caterpillars.
1:26
John C Dvorak: The biting type
No, no, no, the
1:29
Adam Curry: big thick black
ones. They're just everywhere.
1:33
It's incredible. And in the end,
they don't sprout. They don't
1:38
turn into butterflies. It turned
into moths which is interesting
1:40
because when you have cedars
spraying everywhere you think
1:43
that that would kill off the
moths. But no, yes. Yes. No,
1:48
it's not. I have a
1:49
John C Dvorak: closet that cedar
line just for that purpose.
1:52
Yeah.
1:52
Adam Curry: And what do you have
in that closet? Your let me get
1:54
your tuxedo collection.
1:57
John C Dvorak: I have the tuxedo
collection and other rules.
2:02
Adam Curry: Since you brought it
up. I I'm amazed by the outrage
2:08
over Kristi Noem killing her dog
cricket.
2:13
John C Dvorak: Well, I think I
got an earful from Mimi. Oh,
2:18
really? Who owns a kennel right
ad? Yeah, so she's a dog
2:22
protector of dogs. She is
horrible. This woman isn't I
2:26
said everybody's missing the
point about this. Everybody I
2:29
think you probably do. Well,
2:31
Adam Curry: how about this? How
about I play a clip and then
2:33
you'll tell us what point we're
missing. And then I'll give you
2:36
my opinion. All sides
2:38
Unknown: of the aisle do not
agree on much right now. But may
2:42
have been united in outrage over
South Dakota's Governor Christie
2:49
knows on fashion that she shot
her 14 month old puppy dog puppy
2:56
because she couldn't change kill
it. But she says it killed a
3:04
neighbor's chickens. She
defended herself though she
3:08
claimed that it was tough
decisions like this. That
3:10
happened on farms all the time.
And that she followed the law
3:15
and was being a responsible
parent. dog owner and neighbor.
3:20
Nah. Which part was the
parenting part? I'm keeping this
3:25
to myself. I'm gonna let y'all
talk. What is your opinion on
3:30
such things? I start with you
with the baby doll
3:33
literally who's just over 14.
But yeah, this is a puppy. If
3:37
your dog is acting wrongly, it's
because you were incompetent at
3:40
training that dog and I grew up
we have big dogs. Chicken and
3:45
the dog did once get a chicken.
Whose fault was it? Mine for not
3:48
having the dog somewhere where
he couldn't get the chickens but
3:51
then what do you do you train
them? And by the way, if you
3:53
have a really challenging dog,
there are countless
3:56
organizations to rehome them to
somebody who loves the dog
3:59
enough.
3:59
Am I want justice for cricket.
This is
4:01
terrible. It's a terrible thing
just
4:06
to name was was cricket. You
know a sign of a sociopath is
4:09
someone that kills animals. No,
I'm not a clinician.
4:13
No. But she killed her. Yes, for
sure. All right. All right. So
4:19
Adam Curry: I'd love to hear
your view on this. This is an
4:21
important news breaking
breaking.
4:25
John C Dvorak: My view on this
is that I'm not even sure this
4:28
happened. I think Christie gnome
has to do something because she
4:33
does not want to be the vice
presidential choice and she's at
4:37
the top of the list this did it.
This took her off the list. Oh
4:41
good. Without having to say no.
4:44
Adam Curry: Interesting Why
would she not want to further
4:47
her career into in the Oval
4:50
John C Dvorak: tightly named
friends who said look what
4:53
happens all these people get
associated with Trump at that
4:55
level? It's it's trouble. I
mean, it may be great You know
5:00
but then again it's you're gonna
be in the middle of this and
5:03
that no get out of this any way
you can. But she didn't want to
5:07
get out of it by saying no and
then being on Trump's bad side
5:10
she's gonna say I killed dogs I
shoot them all okay, well we
5:15
can't pick her
5:16
Adam Curry: oh well that's very
interesting very no agenda take
5:19
of you there i like i like this
Well, I personally think that
5:23
she should just say this was
puppy health care. I mean,
5:26
that's what she should call it
because you know, I love the
5:28
outrage over some some woman
shooting her dog because
5:32
whatever but now Hey, just suck
out those feeders. There's no
5:37
problem that's healthcare please
the hypocrisy is crazy that's
5:44
crazy the hypocrisy Give me a
break. Hey man that my favorite
5:49
video of this week I don't know
if you saw this. Were those I
5:55
guess?
5:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, I already you
said proceed. Okay, you it's not
5:59
going to be what I guess. What
were you going to guess? The
6:02
liberal filter? Have you seen
that one?
6:04
Adam Curry: No. What is the No I
have not seen the live stop
6:09
that's a video that's how
6:12
John C Dvorak: does not the last
person who retweeted which will
6:15
be the easiest to find is the
lives of tick tock has it
6:17
somewhere okay, what is
hilarious? What is it? It turns
6:22
your picture into a U turn into
a liberal I have
6:25
Adam Curry: seen this Yes. No.
That's not what I was going to
6:30
say. No, I love that that
protester the you know the kid
6:35
who has like a bike helmet on
and he has a sheer hurting me.
6:40
Well, he has he has a shield
made out of half a garbage can
6:44
and you rollin know that one?
Towards the cops and the cops
6:47
just clotheslines. Just like
it's like I feel bad watching it
6:54
over and over and over again.
But it was so funny. To so full.
6:58
You
6:58
John C Dvorak: know, this is
from when I saw the kids with
7:01
the half garbage can run in at
the cops. It's like LARPing is
7:04
it? What are you doing exactly
what I was thinking I was just
7:07
gonna say that it's LARPing at
its highest level is amazing.
7:12
I'm a knight in shining armor.
7:17
Adam Curry: I mean, the
derangement of some of these
7:21
kids and of course they're just
kids. I mean, what are you gonna
7:23
do? They're all young people's
did just that dumb sometimes.
7:28
But the drains, sometimes
they're dumb. Sometimes the
7:31
derangement that they know that
they've lost so much respect for
7:35
law enforcement and police they
don't even think it's what do
7:38
you think it is like a cartoon?
Like this cop is not going to
7:40
bust your head like, come on.
7:43
John C Dvorak: It charging good
cop with a garbage can shield.
7:50
Adam Curry: A bike helmet. That
was the best. So yeah, so then
7:53
my second favorite video, who
would have ever expected the
7:58
frat boys, the frat boys to be
protecting the flag?
8:04
John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah,
this new trend. I
8:08
Adam Curry: like it. I think
this is this is interesting to
8:12
see how we have within these in
these camps, and these, of
8:16
course, are privileged boys.
They're all privileged kids.
8:20
This is Ole Miss.
8:21
Unknown: Gov Tate. Reeves also
posted a video showing counter
8:24
protests or singing the Star
Spangled Banner in front of
8:27
Palestinian protesters.
8:51
surprised they weren't singing
Dixie instead? Because you know
8:55
they must be racist Governor
reads the counter protests.
8:59
Adam Curry: She is unbelievable.
She isn't you can't even have
9:04
respect for the Star Spangled
Banner anymore.
9:07
John C Dvorak: Not from her.
He's gotta go. Yeah.
9:13
Adam Curry: Now well, she will
eventually I mean the MO
9:15
prophecy will come true. It'll
happen and will happen they're
9:20
all going to go all the DEI
higher here you
9:22
John C Dvorak: all stuffed up. I
am funny. It's not you're going
9:25
to use you plowed through the
worst case of the flu. You'd be
9:28
on the air. You sound fine.
9:30
Adam Curry: I'm still on the
air. It's just this whenever I
9:33
whenever I project, then it just
locks up. It's funny. I'm
9:38
locking up, man. I don't know
what to say. I'm locking up. I'm
9:40
locking up that I'm glad you
think it's funny while I go
9:43
through this.
9:45
John C Dvorak: I've never you
witnessed this before? Yes,
9:48
Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Um, let me
say I have a stay on these
9:51
protests because they are rather
interesting. Here's something
9:55
that it kind of hit me this
morning about the Google
9:59
protests First, I have a feeling
while you listen to this. This
10:04
is from I don't
10:05
John C Dvorak: use this from a
while back, isn't it? There's no
10:07
new Google protests mod
10:09
Adam Curry: still ongoing, still
ongoing. There. It's not over.
10:13
John C Dvorak: Yes, it'll
continue until the ceasefire.
10:16
We'll get to that to the
10:18
Unknown: rising. A recent
article in the intercept reveals
10:20
that Google and Amazon provide
cloud computing support to the
10:24
Israeli military under what is
called Project Nimbus, a
10:27
contract worth $1.2 billion. The
Intercept reviewed a 63 page
10:32
Israeli Government Procurement
procurement document, which
10:35
showed that Amazon and Google
support two of the nation's
10:38
leading weapon makers that
manufacture drones, missiles,
10:41
and other weapons used in the
war against Hamas.
10:45
John C Dvorak: Stop Stop, stop,
stop. I want to take a kind of a
10:50
look at the terminology being
used here. Google's not
10:55
supporting them, they're
supporting Google. It's the
10:58
other way around. They're are
they giving the services away
11:01
for free? Is that in the
document date? No. They're
11:04
getting paid to how is that
support? I don't get it.
11:08
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll tell you
my first thought when I was
11:10
about this far in the clip as
well I'm like, this is coming
11:13
from some other company making
Google look bad. Okay,
11:17
John C Dvorak: now you can play
there I'm sorry I run outside
11:20
okay, it's this terminology that
they're supporting this when
11:23
it's the other way around is
annoying. It's as though because
11:27
I went to bought some groceries
at a local store that the
11:31
grocery store supporting me is
they're not supporting me I'm
11:34
buying groceries from them it's
11:35
Adam Curry: possible that they
have a value for value model a
11:38
Google Play
11:39
John C Dvorak: will you wrote
that's a real possibility.
11:42
Adam Curry: Hey, hey Israel. How
about we just give you this
11:45
project Nimbus. If you feel like
it, donate something to us, give
11:48
us some time, talent or
treasure? It was possible
11:51
Unknown: that other obligatory
Cloud customers includes the
11:53
blank Bank of Israel, Israel
Airport Authority, and a quasi
11:57
governmental body tasked with
expanding Israel settlements in
12:00
the West Bank shocking. In the
last two months, multiple Google
12:04
employees got fired and arrested
after protesting against project
12:08
Nimbus, Google spokes person and
a qual check and a statement to
12:12
the intercept said quote, this
work is not directed at highly
12:15
sensitive classified or military
workloads relevant to weapons or
12:20
intelligence service. We don't
kill people this across Google,
12:23
we've also been clear that we
will not design or deploy AI
12:27
applications as weapons or
weapons systems, or for mass
12:31
surveillance on quote, earlier
intercept reported Israel's use
12:36
of Google Photos to implement a
facial recognition dragnet
12:40
across Gaza Strip to scan
ordinary Palestinians as they
12:44
attempt to flee the ongoing
bombardment. Okay, a
12:48
Adam Curry: couple things about
this one. Oh, wow. Well,
12:52
John C Dvorak: first of all, I
mean, before you go to your
12:53
couple of things, what do they
have cameras in the middle of
12:57
the rubble? Are you kidding me?
13:00
Adam Curry: Know what, I love
the outrage over this while in
13:04
America, the TSA has just
started scanning everybody
13:07
without you know, without any
just like, hey, we're doing this
13:10
now. We're just doing facial
recognition. Everyone's like,
13:13
oh,
13:13
Unknown: guy, but But Israel
Gaza.
13:17
Adam Curry: Second of all, why I
want to see all these people
13:20
divest from Google and Amazon.
No more shopping. No more Gmail,
13:25
no. Dogs. Where's that? Where's
that? Come on. This is cheap.
13:31
Diving.
13:32
Unknown: Back in 2019, there was
noticeably a lot less outrage
13:35
when it was reported that Google
and its parent company Alphabet
13:40
were working in ways that were
benefiting the Chinese military,
13:44
specifically for the purposes of
them tracking the Uighur
13:47
population, as well as the Hong
Kong protesters who were
13:52
protesting for their freedom
they are using but the yellow
13:55
people we don't care about them
similar services in order to
13:59
crack down on protesters there
in order to track people who
14:04
they wanted to put in
concentration camps. But yet, at
14:08
the same time is grateful so
that it was no longer going to
14:11
buy for a $10 billion US
government contract with its
14:15
military saying that what the US
military was doing was against
14:19
its values. And so I'm very
confused. Google's values
14:24
supposedly are when they
seemingly have no problem
14:27
benefiting foreign governments,
whether US allies or not, but
14:30
they won't even work with the US
government. Why are they here?
14:34
Are they an American company? Do
they consider
14:38
John C Dvorak: we can stop this
use your head? No, you can keep
14:40
playing it. I like it, but I
want to know what it is. I don't
14:43
recall what did you preface it
with who was this rising? This
14:47
Adam Curry: is the rising the
roll, no
14:49
John C Dvorak: rise rising.
14:51
Adam Curry: I preface it. You
didn't hear it but yes, there
14:53
was probably zoning. This was
yeah, she should be fired
14:56
because she's about to drop
young,
15:01
John C Dvorak: young black girl.
15:03
Unknown: I don't think so of
men. So why are they based here?
15:06
Are they?
15:07
John C Dvorak: young black girl
doesn't sound black. She just I
15:09
don't think that's her. I
15:10
Adam Curry: don't think that's
fair. I'm not sure I didn't clip
15:12
this because I
15:13
John C Dvorak: noticed that she
can. She's really poor. She
15:16
drops. She has some prompter
issues as she's reading away and
15:20
is a very this woman has the
same balm
15:23
Adam Curry: done with her. I
don't care black or white. She's
15:25
not she's off the show.
15:27
John C Dvorak: It's been
eliminated from the shouldn't be
15:29
off the show is what be?
15:31
Adam Curry: Well, let's now
let's look at the endowment.
15:33
This is it's all fascinating,
because it's not really about
15:37
killing people. It's not about
genocide. No, it's about money,
15:42
money, money, money, money.
Here's a Meet the Press,
15:44
Unknown: you hear a lot of these
protesters demanding divestment.
15:47
But they also will often say
disclose first. And the reason
15:49
why is because we just don't
have a lot of transparency into
15:52
what is in the school endowment.
So again, part of this is the
15:55
broader strategy among pro
Palestinian protesters to
15:58
boycott, divest, and sanction
businesses that have ties to
16:01
Israel now divest is the big
conversation on college
16:04
campuses, where you have these
universities with, in many
16:06
cases, multibillion dollar
endowments that they use to
16:09
invest in companies. So how much
of those invest? I'm so
16:13
Adam Curry: confused, that we
just gloss over this. Why aren't
16:17
they giving away free education?
The cup meal billions of
16:21
dollars, and they're investing
in the stock?
16:24
John C Dvorak: The wrong guy
here
16:26
Unknown: are going into
businesses that have ties to
16:28
Israel. Well, let's take a look
at some of the this is
16:30
Adam Curry: why Eisenhower said
the military or you didn't say
16:33
it, but it was in his original
speech. Yep, I have to be right
16:36
there military industry, the
military, academic industrial
16:39
complex.
16:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he had
academic in there originally.
16:43
And
16:43
Adam Curry: then someone took it
out and said, Hey, see this
16:46
picture?
16:49
Unknown: In your mouth, those
investments are going into
16:51
businesses that have ties to
Israel. Well, let's take a look
16:54
at some of the requirements for
how they have to disclose any
16:57
sort of holdings. There's a form
990 with the IRS that's reported
17:00
annually. This gives you the
broad mix of stocks versus bonds
17:03
that a university will be
holding it in endowment, but the
17:06
detail on specific stocks that
are being held comes from a 13 F
17:10
filed with the SEC. The problem,
though, is that that doesn't
17:13
really cover the entire scope of
the endowment, which in many
17:15
cases, as I mentioned, can be in
the billions of dollars, which
17:18
means it's largely up to the
universities on a voluntary
17:21
basis to disclose in their
annual reports. What's actually
17:24
in there. I
17:25
Adam Curry: think we should
crack this open. We should know
17:28
what these universities are
doing it all this money and how
17:30
does it benefit the children?
Well, it's not obviously because
17:35
they're retarded. The stuff
they're doing, like, oh,
17:39
billions of dollars and
endowments, trashcan, man, come
17:42
on. This is crazy.
17:45
Unknown: Man and Ryan, I'll give
you an example of one
17:48
university. Again, Columbia
University getting a lot of
17:50
scrutiny over all this when you
look at the endowment. We're
17:53
talking about a university that
has $13.6 billion in endowment
17:58
funds. We talked about that. I
18:00
Adam Curry: mean, how many
children can you educate from
18:03
that money? 13.6 That's a lot of
billions 13
18:07
Unknown: app that discloses how
many securities and how many
18:10
types of companies are investing
in, it covers only 68 million
18:15
with an M, which means that the
number of stocks that you know,
18:18
Columbia has invested in through
their endowment. It's only about
18:21
point 5% So 99.5% of the
endowment funds. We don't know
18:26
about we don't know if they are
or aren't in any sort of
18:29
companies that have attachments
to Israel. So that's where
18:31
protesters asking for they're
asking for more disclosure of
18:34
the nature of those investments
before they then ask them to
18:37
divest from those funds but the
status quo there's not a lot of
18:40
transparency into these
endowments right okay.
18:42
Adam Curry: So so their protests
are this whole BDS boycott
18:47
divest and sanction has been
based on stuff they don't even
18:52
know this we know it we know
your hide and secret secret Did
18:56
you payments we know it? What if
it is this? They don't even know
19:01
this? No one seems to know. No.
Oh, I find this highly highly
19:06
irregular suspicious, suspicious
and then so now when you think
19:10
about it, if it's all about hey,
you're giving money to these
19:15
Israeli companies, then isn't it
interesting
19:19
John C Dvorak: when you know
you're not give it Okay, first
19:21
of all, it's okay. I'd help
these I've helped me about
19:23
terms. I helped me out you're
not giving money to Israeli
19:27
companies. You're investing Oh,
invest usually open markets,
19:31
stock market stuff investing.
19:33
Adam Curry: That's a good point.
And give me a giveaway. It's not
19:37
a gimme. Okay, you're investing
Good point. Because that's what
19:41
a school should do. A school
should be there to make money
19:43
for itself. Today.
19:46
John C Dvorak: I am all for I'm
with you on this this thesis.
19:49
harvest numbers are
unbelievable. All these big
19:52
universities have these large
endowment usually they by
19:55
soaking the alumni they call the
alumni up constantly. I used to
19:58
get called all the time from
Cow, except once I told them one
20:02
thing, and that was I got put on
the blacklist. I haven't been
20:05
called for years. What did you
tell them? I said, you know, I
20:09
noticed that last year you guys
gave a Brock Obama campaign a
20:13
million dollars of this sort of
money. Why am I giving you money
20:18
so I can go to brocco bomb, I
don't support the guy. And that
20:21
never got called off
20:22
Adam Curry: the list. off the
list. Did you get to TP during
20:28
during how?
20:31
John C Dvorak: Pretty bad but
when? When
20:34
Adam Curry: you think about
what's about yesterday, so
20:37
clearly there's the protesters
want to hurt the companies that
20:42
are being invested in? Doesn't
if I just draw the logical
20:47
conclusion, right? Yes. Okay. So
then, now we have to look at
20:52
who's funding these things,
because they're clearly short on
20:56
the stocks or something. Both
20:58
Unknown: sides of this are
apparently being funded by quite
21:01
wealthy people. You have Jerry
Seinfeld's wife apparently
21:04
helping to organize a pro Israel
protests are
21:08
Adam Curry: married to Shana, is
he still married to her? Or has
21:11
he gotten a new wife in the
meantime?
21:13
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Yeah, that's gotta
21:15
Adam Curry: be promotion for his
movie.
21:17
Unknown: Bill Ackman and other
celebrities or I guess wealthy
21:21
people have helped to donate to
that party fund for the UNC
21:28
fraternity that was seen
protecting the American flag.
21:31
And then on the pro Palestine
side Students for Justice in
21:34
Palestine, of course receives
funding from some Soros
21:37
foundations from the Rockefeller
Brothers Foundation from a Wall
21:40
Street banker by the name of
Felice Gellman, the protesters
21:45
have been led by some people who
are with the US campaign for
21:48
Palestinian rights, which
receives stipends from some of
21:51
those same progressive
billionaires to go on to campus
21:54
and help these students organize
their protest. They have
21:57
received pro bono legal advice
from the Palestine Legal Group.
22:01
So across the board, and we
can't just say that all of this
22:04
is pure grassroots campaigning
done by the students. For the
22:08
students. There's outside
influence, both on the pro
22:11
Palestinian and the pro Israel
side. Yeah, I
22:13
Adam Curry: think that's what
broke all of this because no
22:15
one's taking it seriously
anymore. Everyone's like, Oh,
22:17
okay. It's these these investors
on this side, fighting those
22:21
investors on the other side.
That's all I can see. Now,
22:26
billionaires, how do you become
a billionaire? Well, you make a
22:28
lot of money, and then you
invested in the companies, I
22:31
guess?
22:33
John C Dvorak: Well, you would
take the if you were wanted to,
22:37
you could if you could get
everyone to divest and you are
22:39
on the short side, you can make
money. And then you can let it
22:44
all go back to normal. You can
make money that way. It is what
22:49
Soros
22:50
Adam Curry: typically Soros is
made of shorting shorting
22:53
currencies
22:53
John C Dvorak: is shorter, and
he is also placed currencies.
22:57
He's really made more money off
currencies than anyone could
23:00
possibly do. Especially if you
read his books. He's got a lot
23:03
of tips on how to do this and a
lot of it has has to do with
23:07
being completely manipulative.
Yeah,
23:13
Adam Curry: he's always he's
short on a country. It's like
23:16
Americana, short American now.
It's time to take that dot. And
23:19
of course, he's really not doing
this anymore. It's his boys. Who
23:23
might Aberdeen's boyfriend? He's
the He's the new face. What says
23:27
I've got you on financial stuff,
Jonathan
23:30
John C Dvorak: or something?
Whatever is no, that's not his
23:31
name. Jonathan Soros. Oh, it's
23:34
Adam Curry: not Jonathan. It's
Alex. Alex, Alex, Alex Soros,
23:38
Unknown: Alex Soros.
23:39
Adam Curry: So you probably saw
this hilarious video of Jared
23:44
Bernstein. This the the chairman
or the CEO of the Council of
23:49
Economic Advisers for the
President. You saw this video.
23:55
John C Dvorak: I passed through
it a couple of times. I haven't
23:58
really sat down and looked at it
if you haven't played it, of
24:00
course,
24:01
Adam Curry: of course, because
everyone's that you're talking
24:05
about me you should get a HEPA
filter. Stick your head in that
24:07
to cedar closet. Right up.
Everyone's laughing man
24:13
John C Dvorak: and white in
24:14
Adam Curry: the cedar closet? I
don't know maybe. So everyone's
24:19
laughing at this video. And it
is laughable because the guy
24:21
cannot explain how we print
money and we borrow money. But
24:27
then why do we even have taxes?
What? And he gets so confused
24:32
and I try I'm trying to track
down same again, Jared
24:34
Bernstein. He really is the guy
and he's he talks a big game
24:38
about inflation. He's on the
White House lawn, you know, he's
24:42
always brought in to give his
commentary. And, and this is
24:46
like the the season of reveal
Pinnacle when he can't explain
24:51
how our financial system works,
how we finance the government,
24:55
but very few people have
explained what's really going on
24:59
and I have great hope, great
hope that we can you can explain
25:05
this. So we understand so we can
put you up for Chairman of the
25:10
Economic Council of Advisors for
the president because this guy
25:13
is a numb nut.
25:15
Unknown: And the US government
can't go bankrupt because we can
25:18
print or on money.
25:20
It obviously begs the question,
why exactly? Are we borrowing in
25:23
a currency that we print
ourselves and waiting for
25:26
someone to stand up and say, Why
do we borrow our own currency in
25:30
the first place?
25:33
Like you said, they print the
dollar. So why why does the
25:36
government even borrow? Well,
25:40
the so the I mean, again, some
of the language that the MN some
25:49
of the language and concepts are
just confusing. I mean, the
25:51
government definitely prints
money. And it definitely lends
25:55
that money, which is why the
government definitely prints
25:58
money, and then it lends that
money by by selling bonds. Is
26:03
that what they do? They, they,
yeah, they, they, they sell
26:10
bonds? Yeah, they sell bonds,
right? Because they sell bonds,
26:13
and people buy the bonds and
lend them the money. Yeah. So a
26:17
lot of times, a lot of times, at
least to my ear with MMT, the
26:21
language and the concepts can be
kind of unnecessarily confusing,
26:24
but there is no question that
the government prints money, and
26:28
then it uses that money to buy.
So yeah, I guess I'm just I
26:38
can't really talk. I don't get
it. I don't know what they're
26:41
talking about. Like, it's like,
the government clearly prints
26:46
money. It does it all the time,
and it clearly borrows.
26:49
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having
this that in depth conversation.
26:52
So I don't think there's
anything confusing there.
26:57
Adam Curry: So this is Hilarity
for all and I'm gonna, I'm gonna
27:01
take a little guess here, I'm
gonna guess that this guy
27:04
doesn't understand, which is
amazing. If you're the chairman
27:08
and CEO of the economic council
of advisors to the President,
27:12
that he doesn't understand that
the Federal Reserve who creates
27:15
money with the banking system is
not a government institution.
27:21
Unknown: No. So
27:23
Adam Curry: can you can you
explain simply to us all, just
27:26
John C Dvorak: the simplest way
is that you have credits and
27:29
debits or to balance the budget,
they have the same amount of
27:32
money out there that you have
credits debits for and you so
27:36
you, you create a billion
dollars with the bonds and sell
27:39
them and that money goes into
the into circulation. It's the
27:43
only simplest way of looking at
the way I see it. So
27:46
Adam Curry: we, we sell a bond
and then that bond, the Fed then
27:49
prints that bond in dollars.
27:53
John C Dvorak: But people owe
that money back.
27:55
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well,
yeah. The people, the people Oh,
27:58
that was mostly
27:59
John C Dvorak: the people that
buy the bonds. I mean, people,
28:01
everyone like say, Well, China,
you know, today, yeah, a lot of
28:04
foreigners buy the bonds, too,
because they're good. It's a
28:09
good bond, and it has an
interest that pays interest.
28:12
Yeah. And oh, yeah, supposed to
be the inflation rate at the
28:16
most risk is always higher, of
course, which means you're
28:19
getting inflation. So that is a
bid system is builds it builds
28:23
inflation in
28:24
Adam Curry: so how, why do we
pay taxes
28:28
John C Dvorak: to help because
there is missing money? Because
28:34
somewhere along the line, we
didn't make this debit credit
28:38
thing balanced out. It's never
balanced. There was supposed to
28:41
be balanced, it would if they
put a constitutional amendment
28:43
to balance it that you wouldn't
have this issue. You probably
28:46
wouldn't need to pay taxes, but
then we'd all be broke that we
28:48
wouldn't be any potholes fixed,
and they're not potholes anyway.
28:51
They send the money to Ukraine.
Okay, I got the answers. Why do
28:58
we pay tax? This is not a good
system. Okay, no, it's a great
29:01
system. We pay taxes to support
the military industrial complex.
29:06
That
29:06
Adam Curry: is that's exactly
literally where our money goes
29:09
and to pay off the rent the
interest the interest of the
29:11
money, we earn the interest for
them did
29:13
John C Dvorak: the bond money
mismatch?
29:16
Adam Curry: Is this a
sustainable system?
29:20
John C Dvorak: Long term going
for a long time? It's been going
29:22
since? I'd say since 1913. Yes,
that's that would be the correct
29:28
date. Yes, it's been sustainable
with a couple of with a couple
29:32
of hiccups like that little
29:33
Adam Curry: hiccup where we had
to confiscate everybody's gold.
29:37
That was one hiccup was that's
one he had ca 1971 Hiccup
29:40
John C Dvorak: is dropping gold
altogether from the calculation.
29:43
That was Nixon's hiccup. The
good way to go real hiccups were
29:47
1930 Depression 1970s,
depression, the crash of
29:51
2008 2009 there and that comes
and goes COVID and COVID, a
29:57
COVID and the business the
business cycle, so And what is
30:00
the best way to get this keep
this going war?
30:04
Adam Curry: Wars good? Isn't
that what they always do? That
30:08
John C Dvorak: is Marxist
economy, a Marxist economists
30:12
that's their basis for making
these calculations. Yes.
30:17
Adam Curry: Oh, so you're Oh my
second so so the Marxist like
30:23
war because it helps them with
their system.
30:27
John C Dvorak: Their
misunderstanding. I don't know
30:28
if they like war or not, but it
seems that they might. But no,
30:31
they would they, when they see
capitalism, they Stace, they
30:35
like to interpret it as needing
wars to exist. We need to slam
30:42
on capitalism, but it's the
market but it's a Marxist
30:45
economic ish theory that wars
are benefit capitalism. I'm just
30:51
getting this from other
Marxists. I mean, you know, not
30:54
one beating did you have to show
me the other day? They were
30:59
bringing this up and get yet
again.
31:01
Adam Curry: I loved watching
some of the Berkshire Hathaway,
31:06
a big meeting in Omaha. They
have their annual meeting, of
31:10
course, yeah. Sad meeting.
31:12
John C Dvorak: Is monger still
alive? No, he's
31:15
Adam Curry: dead. Oh,
31:16
John C Dvorak: he died finally.
Okay,
31:17
Adam Curry: at 99 is and so
here's Warren Buffett without I
31:21
think he even referenced someone
as Charlie for a moment. He
31:24
forgot that he was dead. And
they have like $188 billion in
31:30
in cash. And Warren Buffett
saying this is great. We just
31:33
leave it in money markets. We
just leave it in treasuries for
31:37
three months, six months. Right?
Invest in the dumb companies.
31:40
But Warren Buffett Warren
Buffett Warren What about AI?
31:44
Warren What about AI?
31:45
Unknown: When you think of the
potential for scamming people
31:51
reproduce images I can't even
tell to say I need money. As
32:01
your daughter I just had a car
crash. I need $50,000 wired I
32:09
mean scamming has always been
part of the American scene.
32:13
American made me was interested
in Destiny's scamming. That's
32:21
gonna be the growth industry
evolves. I mentioned abled in a
32:25
way I you know, obviously AI has
potential for good things too.
32:30
But I don't know how you miss on
the one I saw recently. I
32:35
practically would send it to
send money to myself overruns or
32:38
some crazy country don't have
any advice on you
32:46
Adam Curry: know I think he
nails rambling now it went on
32:49
for hours but I think he nails
it though. All of this is good
32:53
for but he didn't quite nail it.
He said for scamming and for
32:57
comedy so far we have seen no
other actual use yes
33:03
John C Dvorak: for a lot art
33:05
Adam Curry: yes art you know 60
minutes that a huge thing whole
33:10
Randy Travis be thanks to AI he
can sing again. Oh boy. I didn't
33:16
know he could now he has had
some horrible illness oh
33:19
John C Dvorak: yeah was throat
issues Yeah. Well, I think you
33:23
may be summarizing I think you
might be on to something I
33:25
liked. That clip is almost a go
clip borderline borderline but
33:30
not because you could because
he's hard to hear him.
33:33
Adam Curry: Why can't help that.
The
33:36
John C Dvorak: idea that AI is
good for Kuma definitely yeah.
33:41
Did you see the bad guy there's
wanting to buy No. Pooping
33:46
Adam Curry: the best using AI
this year. We ate we need to do
33:50
the no agenda AI awards. There
you go. Best. Best category for
33:57
fake video goes to Cat term. Cat
term, you're
34:04
John C Dvorak: already just I've
been pushing for some sort of
34:06
awards, the martial
34:08
Adam Curry: arts. There's our
awards, the AI Podcast Awards.
34:11
We'll just throw podcast in
there to give it some validity
34:13
but it's not about podcasts at
all. Just said the AI Podcast
34:17
Awards because we do the awards
on podcast and we hand out the
34:20
best well AI and here's here's
this fake voice Yeah, best fake
34:26
voice best. And of course we
have to have an R rated
34:29
category. Best our rated picture
of Taylor Swift Taylor Swift its
34:35
own category altogether. Yeah,
and and we should say best AI
34:40
spokes hold dear members
34:41
Unknown: of the media and the
public. I welcome you. My name
34:44
is Victoria she I have been
created by the Ministry of
34:47
Foreign Affairs of Ukraine,
using artificial intelligence to
34:51
provide you with timely and high
quality information on Consular
34:54
Affairs. I am a digital person.
That means that the text you
34:58
hear was not read by a real
person, it was generated by
35:01
artificial intelligence. I will
carry out a number of tasks.
35:05
First and foremost, I will
inform the public providing
35:09
timely and verified information
from Ukraine's consular service.
35:14
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, it's Yeah.
Have you seen catch? Have you
35:18
seen her? Have you seen the
video? No,
35:19
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
her I know but you know that do
35:21
you have to remember that the
Japanese had an AI girl who's
35:25
extremely famous in Japan
somebody whenever a Japanese
35:28
produces can tell it can
remember the name of this woman?
35:31
Oh,
35:31
Adam Curry: I know what you're
talking about. Yeah. And it
35:33
John C Dvorak: was a face and
she was she was a celebrity but
35:36
she was completely computer
generated. But it was called
35:40
back then when she came around.
This is 5678 years ago when she
35:43
showed up. This was called
Computer Generated
35:47
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
like Man is the same thing. Max
35:51
Headroom?
35:52
John C Dvorak: Yes. Like Max
Headroom. Be one of our
35:54
celebrity judges
35:56
Adam Curry: Max head. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm one of those guys.
36:01
That think we're onto something
here. It's begging is the AI
36:05
world is begging for an award
show. Oh, yes, they need it.
36:09
They do and then they can we can
tell everyone Hey, listen. You
36:14
know, just in case you win, wink
wink nudge nudge I think he was
36:18
possibly you might have one
could you please do an
36:21
acceptance speech for us? Really
funny. So okay, well
36:25
John C Dvorak: this show is
going to take it to the limit
36:28
and a couple of things that
should be noted. One Yes, you do
36:32
that you bribe people with
awards to get them to speak
36:35
lifetime? Not right away but I'd
say within a couple of years
36:41
probably within three you'd have
you to get nominated. You have
36:46
to pay a fee.
36:47
Adam Curry: Oh of course no.
This is how it works now there's
36:50
an entrance fee yeah that's how
we make a reasonable fee Yes
36:54
$2,000 That's our that's how we
make money Yeah, and then we
36:59
make money on the catering for
the gala
37:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there has
to be catering there has to be a
37:06
gala
37:08
Adam Curry: red carpets
37:09
John C Dvorak: well I don't know
about that. I don't maybe we're
37:12
onto some of the some of the
guys who do this there are
37:16
Adam Curry: there are so many
companies now we were just doing
37:18
it virtual was save money there
are so many companies who have
37:22
it'd be best
37:25
John C Dvorak: to do a virtual
we're gonna have a real event
37:27
Adam Curry: best prompt jockey
think about and that's gonna
37:32
John C Dvorak: be hard to eat.
Here's the problem with that.
37:33
Yeah, I would say I'm worried
that we're gonna sell merch, the
37:38
merchants or somebody else could
do the merch. We don't have to
37:40
do we just job it out. But I
would say I don't like the
37:44
prompt jockey thing is going to
be tough because what you're
37:46
doing is you're exposing a boy
II to poaching. Yeah, okay.
37:53
You're not gonna go for that.
37:54
Adam Curry: But we can
definitely get a whole bunch of
37:55
comedians to judge the funniest
memes the the funniest video
37:59
memes the funniest now the
panel, and then you know, best,
38:03
best faked leaked audio like
that.
38:10
John C Dvorak: We can sit down
and do the categories. Okay,
38:12
good. All right. So it's done
deal. All right. Exit Strategy.
38:15
Beautiful.
38:16
Adam Curry: Now, no, I
38:17
John C Dvorak: think we can
still do the show.
38:20
Adam Curry: How disappointing
now. Now, let's just let's go
38:25
talk to somebody. Let's listen
to somebody who knows all about
38:27
AI, who is all in and actually
calls it the AI which I think we
38:31
need to start adopting. It's not
AI, it's the AIS. And that's
38:36
Bill Gates. And he's back on the
scene with the Hannah Ricci This
38:43
is his unconfused me podcast,
where and he's something's
38:47
really weird, but I mean, okay,
so it was always weird though.
38:50
He's sitting he has
38:51
John C Dvorak: a bit of a he has
a neurological disorder.
38:55
Adam Curry: This is something
with his right arm there's
38:58
something his his left shoulder
was up his right arm was he
39:01
never moved really his right
arm.
39:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got
some he's got some some issue
39:05
and he also has fax. I think
that's Parkinson's problem,
39:09
Adam Curry: though. Sorry about
that. But anyway, we're still
39:12
gonna make fun of him.
39:13
Unknown: My guest is Dr. Hannah
Ricci, data scientist and
39:17
researcher at the University of
Oxford, also head of research
39:22
for our world in data. She's
just coming out with the
39:25
fantastic new book called not
the end of the world. Welcome,
39:29
Hannah. It's
39:30
a pleasure to be here.
39:31
Adam Curry: It's a pleasure to
be here. Okay, so now we're
39:33
gonna get into it about the
power of AI.
39:36
Unknown: Is there something that
you've changed your mind about
39:38
recently,
39:39
I spent a lot of time in the
technology world and I have to
39:42
say I was very stunned how the
AIS went from basically not
39:47
being able to read or write at
all, to doing that in a very
39:51
facile way. Still very
imperfect. But it kind of blew
39:55
my mind I had challenged people
to pass a test and thought they
40:01
might never at least take them
years, but within a few months,
40:06
they were able to do it. So now,
you know, I'm thinking about
40:10
Wow, how do we use this in
education and health and in
40:16
various environmental
challenges? So the power of
40:20
these AI is I, I miss predicted
that and I'm reformed. He's
40:27
Adam Curry: reformed he believes
in the power of the AIS. With
40:32
it's very weird to say the AIS.
It's like he's like talking
40:35
about the God's power of the
eyes of AI is I'm reformed I
40:39
believe in the power of the AI
is our new god. So what do you
40:43
think Bill was thinking about?
Really? If we're using the power
40:47
of the AI guys, any ideas?
40:51
John C Dvorak: What could Yeah,
what the mRNA vaccines now
40:54
creepier
40:55
Adam Curry: and creepier?
creepier creepier.
40:58
John C Dvorak: Who wants to
clone himself? I have no idea.
41:01
Close.
41:01
Unknown: Do you think AI will
play a role in climate action?
41:04
Well, absolutely. Because our
ability to model complex
41:08
phenomena
41:08
John C Dvorak: we hold on and
say stop the podcast. Oh, wow.
41:12
Adam Curry: He just pulled the
emergency brake.
41:17
John C Dvorak: Didn't Bill
introduce her? And isn't this
41:20
his podcast? No,
41:21
Adam Curry: it's that's what's
so interesting. I'm glad you
41:23
picked up on that.
41:25
John C Dvorak: So how did it
turn around or he's being
41:28
interviewed? Now that's kind of
a podcast host is that?
41:32
Adam Curry: This is this is the
new format. I think it's
41:34
revolutionary.
41:36
John C Dvorak: Revolutionaries,
41:37
Adam Curry: like what I give I
give him two thumbs up for this
41:40
concept. I like it. I like it a
lot. Let's go back.
41:43
Unknown: Do you think AI will
play a role in climate action?
41:46
Well,
41:46
absolutely, because our ability
to model complex phenomena, the
41:51
AIs are helping a lot with that.
So for example, looking at the
41:56
genetics of cows, and saying,
Hey, some cows emit a lot of
42:01
methane and some emit very, very
little, and some cows survive in
42:06
hot weather very well in some do
not. And then along with our
42:10
ability to edit genes, one of
the most dramatic source of
42:15
emissions that at one time I and
wasn't sure the path forward.
42:20
Now we can see either making the
cows better, or various
42:25
techniques where they they
create meat without the cow
42:29
Adam Curry: there it is. We
create meat without the cow.
42:34
There's even a new in the
Netherlands, they're promoting
42:37
farmer LIS meat, this is my
favorite meat without the
42:40
farmer. That's the way to go.
So, Bill is all in on the
42:48
climate change making meat
without the cow and probably
42:52
some more here. Let's see what
else Yes, even
42:54
Unknown: the weather modeling
piece. Now AI has been applied
42:57
to that boat the long term which
is, you know, kind of those
43:00
climate models, but say telling
the farmer in Africa based on
43:05
the weather, should they go
ahead and plant now? Or is it
43:09
going to be so dry? You know,
they use stories planted the
43:12
first rain, but if you know
that's anomalous, you know, then
43:17
then you shouldn't plant and so
the eyes are really starting to
43:21
help us with very practical
problems.
43:23
Adam Curry: This is bull crap.
43:24
John C Dvorak: He say a eyes he
43:26
Adam Curry: keeps saying the AI
I'm telling you the guy is
43:28
looking at the AIS as the gods.
He's reformed. Remember the AIS?
43:34
The the so the
43:36
John C Dvorak: tip. I wish I had
the Mr. mRNA clip that he just
43:40
did too. And for USA Today where
he's like going off the deep
43:44
end. Don't
43:46
Adam Curry: worry, there's more
because he has
43:49
John C Dvorak: to wait there's
more.
43:52
Adam Curry: So remember that
you're making cow mooing noises
43:59
It's a very inappropriate sell
AI remember that we just had
44:04
this bird flu scare which is not
over. But oh, it wasn't in the
44:09
in the ground beef. Ah, thank
God it might be in the milk but
44:12
it's in the ground beef. But
when people you know people
44:15
listened very poorly to the news
and they hit breaking breaking
44:18
breaking ground beef. Bird flu.
I guarantee you that people are
44:23
like, well maybe you should just
have some chicken tonight. I'm
44:28
sure want to have some gris
ierarh on chicken. I heard
44:31
something about ground beef. I
don't like it and bit and
44:34
they're all jumping in on it. I
would have to say if it wasn't
44:38
planned, ma'am. They really
picked up quick because the fake
44:43
meat people are back. They're
not going to give up. They're
44:46
all in including Bill
44:48
Unknown: are you what what
scenario where new data kind of
44:51
changed your your view of
things.
44:53
So my general framework for
change on many of these
44:57
technologies is that if you
generate alternative technology,
45:01
which is as good as the original
and is cheaper than the
45:04
original, then people will just
adopt it. And I think that's
45:07
true for energy sources. I think
people are not that bothered
45:11
about what actually comes goes
into the plug. They just want
45:14
reliable power. I think one area
where I'm a bit more skeptical
45:19
of that framework, nose and
food. Now I'm a big fan of meat
45:23
substitutes, I love Impossible
Burger beyond meat burger, like
45:26
I'm a vegan. So I eat this stuff
all the time, I think I had this
45:30
framework in my head that FDA
just got cheap enough and tasted
45:34
good that people would just make
that switch, I'm now becoming
45:38
much more skeptical that it will
be as easy as that. I think
45:42
there will just be this inherent
resistance for many people that
45:45
is not meat, so I'm not going to
make the switch. So to me, I'm
45:49
leaning more towards, I think if
we're going to see this large
45:53
scale change and dietary habits
and basically needs to generate,
45:55
you basically just need to
generate meat, which would be
45:58
lab grown meat, for example,
when it's not just a plant based
46:01
substitute for that, but it's
the actual thing, just without
46:05
the cow or the chicken.
46:07
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that
this is not a coincidence that
46:10
Bill Gates and he's clearly
interested in anything modifying
46:13
cow she's like, Nah, now we just
need to go to lab grown meat,
46:16
and it's on the radar all over
the place. Good luck tops. Wha?
46:22
Hey, I think there's I think
there's a path for these nut
46:25
jobs. Here's Tom llamas with a
top story top story on NBC.
46:30
Unknown: I'm joined tonight by
Tom Ross Meisel. He's the head
46:33
of Global Marketing at good
meat, one of just two cultivated
46:36
meat.
46:37
Adam Curry: Let's just bring in
the guy who's the head of Global
46:39
Marketing. Don't you think
that's kind of suspicious?
46:45
John C Dvorak: Well, it depends
on what the story's about. Is it
46:49
about global marketing or Well,
it's about is it about this
46:53
meeting? Even news this is a
native ad is what you're gonna
46:58
bought to play? Yes,
47:00
Adam Curry: correct. Well, it's
because of a debates going on in
47:02
Florida meat
47:03
Unknown: companies in the US
that had been approved by the
47:06
FDA to sell their products and
Representative Dean black who is
47:09
a Republican member of Florida's
let's state legislature, but an
47:13
important but here he's also a
cattle rancher. We thank you
47:16
both for joining top story
tonight. I'm looking forward to
47:18
a spirited debate. Tom, I'm
going to play a video for our
47:21
viewers now that are great
47:23
John C Dvorak: spirited debate
as comma, this role. So we're
47:28
looking forward to a spirited
debate here on the TV show, walk
47:31
our
47:32
Unknown: viewers through what
we're looking here. So the meats
47:33
built or assembled, I guess, in
these
47:38
Adam Curry: were, what he said
assembled, he's versus is built,
47:41
then assembled, both equally bad
47:43
Unknown: built are assembled, I
guess, in these metal
47:46
containers. And then it comes
out and it looks just like a
47:49
fillet right? By that grocery
store. I would know the
47:52
difference. And if you're an
idiot, looks like a chicken
47:56
fillet. My question to you is
What does it taste like? It
48:00
tastes like chicken.
48:05
Adam Curry: People are going to
fall for this. John, people are
48:07
going to go I can predict it
right now. This global warming
48:12
nonsense has been going on for
In fact, I have a call out for
48:15
our producers. We have a best of
show coming up. For the think
48:20
Sunday the 26th. And Sir de
nonnamous has upgraded being
48:25
it.io. I mean, he has done a
phenomenal job. You can search
48:31
every single episode of the no
agenda show I did some and you
48:34
can do also now. sort those
results in reverse chronological
48:37
order. I would I'm going I'm
going to put together a global
48:41
warming slash climate change
special because already never
48:46
did. You just did Eclipse. Yeah,
but now but now you can get us
48:51
talking. And then there's a lot
of stuff that's not clips. This
48:55
just Okay, your stations.
48:57
John C Dvorak: It'd be a nice
show.
48:58
Adam Curry: I think it'd be a
great show. And I'd like
49:00
producers to go to bing.io and
search because it goes back to
49:04
episode three. We were talking
about this nonsense. And every
49:11
it's been the same for almost 17
years.
49:15
John C Dvorak: Can I Can I
interrupt your pace and flow for
49:17
a second place? We have to do
two donation segments today. Go
49:21
I
49:21
Adam Curry: know I was already
thinking about that. I just
49:24
wanted to I think we're just
back to two I mean, I love it. I
49:26
thought it would I thought
everyone felt very comfortable.
49:31
Here's what we need is we need
the art generate a generator to
49:33
come back online. Oh, is it dead
on the check if it's back online
49:38
by now? Nope, it's dead. Is Dead
Jim? No agenda art generator.com
49:45
is dead as a doornail. Yeah,
getting that Cloudflare thing.
49:51
Okay, so let's, let's just
continue for a little bit
49:54
because I think I can tell you
Well, how about let me see.
49:59
John C Dvorak: So the theme over
Your little presentation here is
50:01
fake meat. fake
50:03
Adam Curry: meat. Yes, fake
meat, which was precipitated by
50:07
the fake scare about the fake
bird flu. And so now the fake
50:12
meat people are out all over the
place. Tom, what do you see?
50:15
John C Dvorak: Oh, hold on.
Yeah. So you're equating the
50:18
bird flu bull crap that Ken
went? Yep. With fake meat. Yeah,
50:24
the impetus for fake meat as
part of a long arc cut
50:28
Adam Curry: set up a big setup.
Wow, Bill Gates has an
50:31
investment in fake meat company.
Well,
50:34
John C Dvorak: good for him.
He's bought time he lost on some
50:36
of his investments. Now,
50:38
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
take the other side of that, I
50:40
think that they're going to,
they're going to make it happen.
50:44
And, and I'm going to tell you
how I'm going to tell you how
50:46
first, let's get another one I
got, I'm gonna skip around these
50:49
clips, I don't want to bore you
too much
50:51
Unknown: to what culture and
politics would be at play here.
50:55
I mean, you you should ask
Representative black. There are
50:59
no credible safety concerns
coming from the legislature
51:03
about this. So you know, if
politicians want to say, hey, we
51:08
don't like this meet, that may
play well with some consumers.
51:12
But you know, ultimately,
consumers should decide what
51:15
meat they want to buy or not
buy. Okay,
51:17
Adam Curry: so peers. Now we're
gonna get some of the reasons
51:21
why we need lab grown meat.
Tommy says, Does the
51:25
Unknown: country need this right
now? And is would your meat be
51:28
more affordable? I mean, I mean,
give me the top three reasons
51:31
why America needs us right now.
That's a good question. Yeah, so
51:34
the the number one reasons
environmental, so we're growing
51:39
just the meat that is consumed
by a consumer, we're not growing
51:43
at the corn, intestine, or fur,
or tendons or anything like
51:46
that. So we have the ability to
grow meat much more efficiently
51:50
than the conventional way.
51:52
Adam Curry: Yes, we grow meat
better than cows, okay. And
51:55
that's going to
51:56
Unknown: be really important. I
mean, the protein requirements
52:00
of the planet are going to
double between now and 2050.
52:03
Adam Curry: Redefining protein,
as we suggested would happen. So
52:06
adding another
52:07
Unknown: tool to be able to
sustainably make protein is
52:10
going to be really important.
It's not going to replace
52:13
conventional meat. We're not
advocating for that. I'm
52:16
certainly that's not be expected
from the Florida Legislature.
52:20
But consumers should decide they
should be able to go to a
52:23
grocery store and determine what
type of safe and approve meat
52:26
they want.
52:27
Adam Curry: Okay, so it comes
down to one that by the sorry,
52:30
not
52:31
John C Dvorak: to interrupt
here. But I want to say that is
52:34
the mistake they're making.
Consumers will not decide in
52:40
favor of lab grown meat there's
consumers are not so stupid,
52:45
that they think that lab grown
meats better and all they need
52:48
is just a kind of a kickoff Hey,
you know there's amino acids,
52:51
there's all kinds of who knows
what mystery elements and, and
52:55
vitamins in real meat that the
body needs over it because of
52:59
evolutionary factors that is not
going to be in lab grown
53:03
anything that you
53:05
Adam Curry: are correct about
the quality of the products that
53:08
it will be very bad for humans.
You I believe you're incorrect
53:11
about consumers being stupid a,
a lot of consumers took a gene
53:16
therapy that it had no business
injecting into their body
53:20
stupid, I don't know depends on
how its positioned by the
53:23
authorities and the science.
Millions of people have been
53:28
psyops into buying an electric
vehicle because all it's going
53:33
to save the climate is going to
save the world is going to
53:35
change everything. And these are
the saps that are standing by
53:39
the side of the road when it's
too hot. When it's too cold.
53:42
Their car is worth 30% less the
minute they drive it off the lot
53:45
50% within six months. Yes,
consumers are stupid when lied
53:51
to, particularly by people of
authority like I don't know Elon
53:55
Musk. So what is the ticket? Why
did they what is the ticket into
53:59
getting the people to buy the
cheap meat? Listen to this last
54:02
clip
54:03
Unknown: right now? Is it
cheaper or more expensive than
54:05
regular meat? Yeah, right now
it's more expensive. We've got a
54:08
lot of steps in order to scale
our technology, it's going to
54:11
take a lot of time to get there.
But that's true of all new
54:14
industries. You know, when cars
came out, they're very expensive
54:17
cell phones, electric vehicles,
you name it. There's always a
54:22
process when you're scaling up a
new technology and
54:25
Adam Curry: what was the
solution for the electric
54:27
vehicles $5,000 subsidy from the
government it's coming for fake
54:32
meat. Guaranteed. If you buy the
fake meat, it's going to be
54:38
cheaper because of the subsidies
to the supermarket to the
54:41
producers however they do it.
Yes. I think that that is going
54:45
to happen. I know you disagree.
You disagree clearly Well, I'm
54:49
John C Dvorak: gonna give you a
little I'll give you that I'll
54:52
give you the possibilities that
they're going to chicken shit
54:55
away into this by giving away
money by American taxpayer
54:59
money. Need to make it so it
looks more appealing as
55:02
Adam Curry: we print it right?
But
55:05
John C Dvorak: even cheaper,
it's going to, if it's cheaper
55:09
disguise, you're going to be a
mistake. Because of the way the
55:12
mind works. It's going to be a
cheap lab grown substitute for
55:16
real chicken, which is cheap
anyway. But okay, let's just say
55:20
it's a cheap lab grown chicken
meat. And it's going to this is
55:26
cheaper so we can save a little
money here. Oh, I don't know.
55:29
It's looks cheap. It's cheap.
It's going to be seen as cheap
55:33
junk. I think there's a huge
hurdle to get over. If you're
55:40
going to pull this stunt where
you think you're going to sell
55:42
the public lab grown? You know,
some slush, okay. It's not it's
55:47
never gonna get this right.
55:48
Adam Curry: Have you walked
through a regular old
55:51
supermarket recently?
55:53
John C Dvorak: I walked through
regular old supermarkets all the
55:55
time. It looks like
55:56
Adam Curry: Disneyland. It's
nothing but colored packages
55:59
with sugar and chemicals. People
are eating chemicals and sugar
56:03
all day long. And you think, oh,
I want some good quality
56:08
chicken. Do you buy meat and
chicken at the supermarket?
56:12
John C Dvorak: I bought meat and
chicken at the supermarket. I
56:15
don't normally I usually just
buy giant slabs of stuff.
56:18
Adam Curry: Where do you buy
Costco?
56:20
John C Dvorak: I buy Costco.
Yeah, buy me a Costco.
56:23
Adam Curry: You are a discerning
consumer who's smart. You're
56:27
also from the silent generation.
You know, good
56:30
John C Dvorak: fam. Not from the
silent generation, my baby
56:32
boomer, don't take me with them.
I'm
56:35
Adam Curry: sorry. Mistake
mistake. I meant the boomer. Of
56:39
course, you're smart. But the
people who are eat it, people
56:43
are eating junk. Their sugar
addicts. They're gonna be Hey,
56:47
have you tried this new chicken?
It tastes great. Texture is
56:51
fantastic.
56:52
John C Dvorak: To the stock
market and beyond meats. It's
56:55
comedy on me. So oh, here it is.
Sorry, fake hamburger.
56:58
Adam Curry: They had electric
vehicles in 1912. They just
57:02
needed a reboot. They needed
Elon, they didn't have Elon at
57:06
the time that you cannot tell me
that the electric vehicle has
57:10
been a great idea. Can you think
so know
57:20
John C Dvorak: what it would be
if they did, they had the one
57:23
that they use the technology
which I think they're using in
57:25
some parts of China, where you
go, you take your electric
57:30
vehicle, you drive into the
recharging station, they swap
57:35
out your entire battery pack and
put a new one in and you drive
57:38
off in 15 seconds.
57:40
Adam Curry: All right, fine,
fine, fine. All of it sucks. It
57:44
sucks. It's no good. All right.
I just hope people go to beef
57:53
initiative.com. Everybody, make
sure you find a rancher because
57:57
it's coming. It's coming. And
you know, this is this is my
58:00
favorite. So they had on Dean
black some house representatives
58:04
probably from Florida. And on
the off chance that I'm right.
58:10
And about what about lab meats?
About people going? We're
58:15
John C Dvorak: gonna be lapping
it up. Yes,
58:17
Adam Curry: on the off chance,
he brings up a really good
58:19
point.
58:20
Unknown: There is a lot of
research and development still
58:22
to be done. And I will agree
that in order for it to be
58:26
competitive, it would have to be
scaled up. And if you scale this
58:30
up, that brings up my second
objection, which pertains to
58:33
China. Look, Communist China and
communist countries have a
58:38
history of collectivizing
agriculture and food production
58:42
and they use that to control
their populations. And for this
58:45
to make sense it will have to be
concentrated in large factories.
58:51
And look we are in a very tense
geopolitical time with China,
58:56
North Korea, Iran. And if you
concentrate your protein
59:00
production in a few major
factories you're a few missile
59:05
strikes from an instant famine.
Yeah.
59:10
I like that. I like that. I like
it a lot. I like it a lot. And
59:15
Adam Curry: then I'll just play
this final clip because anything
59:18
anything that comes from the
Netherlands is dynamite. You
59:21
know, again, we're redefining
protein. Of course I'm all in
59:27
with you that no lab grown meat
anything can have any of the
59:31
goodness that's inside actual
animal protein I don't eat much
59:35
chicken at all I don't trust any
chicken from anywhere.
59:39
John C Dvorak: I don't stress
that a chicken I don't
59:41
Adam Curry: trust any Sam you
trust salmon us trust salmon
59:44
from anywhere I don't think so.
We use what happened to Dame
59:47
Elise from She must have gone
overboard members she was Alaska
59:52
she would send a salmon from
time to time at least guard
59:56
garland Yarrow garlic yeah least
garlic and garland otherwise
1:00:00
Garling Garling
1:00:01
John C Dvorak: Well, whatever
the case is, they are still up
1:00:04
in Port Angeles. I think they
bailed out there overboard. We
1:00:07
haven't gotten into it. More
importantly, we haven't received
1:00:10
any lemon shallow for the last
five years or
1:00:13
Adam Curry: more than that. Her
limoncello was off the hook. It
1:00:17
was so good. Anyway, leave it to
the the farmer list meat country
1:00:23
known as the Netherlands. This
is really this is a marketing
1:00:25
campaign. Farmer list meat. Can
you believe it? Instead of
1:00:31
saying it's not actual meat,
though, it's farmer list meat.
1:00:35
Don't just forget about the cow.
We don't need to stupid farmer
1:00:40
is wooden shoes now and you want
protein. Introducing the Dutch
1:00:45
bugs burgers.
1:00:46
Unknown: At first glance it
looks like a normal hamburger.
1:00:49
But it's not just any old
burger. Because half of the meat
1:00:53
patty consists of ground up
insect larvae so Boksburg
1:00:58
nice flavor and I would
definitely recommend it.
1:01:02
Adam Curry: It has nice meat
flavor, so I'm going to eat is
1:01:05
very good. I would recommend it
to all my friends. It's
1:01:08
Unknown: a nice flavor and I
would definitely recommend it to
1:01:11
my friends.
1:01:11
The main ingredient and Barrows
BOXBERGER is ground blesser
1:01:15
mealworms, the larvae of the
darkling beetle. The production
1:01:18
of the insect burgers begins
here in the Dutch town of
1:01:21
Amarillo. The manufacturers have
been breeding insects here for
1:01:25
about 40 years nearly as animal
feed, give them cow feed and
1:01:30
afford the cosmetics industry.
But recently they've been
1:01:33
producing more and more larvae
for human consumption. He
1:01:36
performs regular checks on the
quality. What do you
1:01:39
Adam Curry: think the difference
is between larvae for animal
1:01:41
consumption and larvae for human
consumption? Is there a
1:01:44
different process suddenly
1:01:47
John C Dvorak: is you're making
me sick
1:01:48
Unknown: or larvae for human
consumption he performs regular
1:01:52
checks on the quality of his
worms. around 2 billion people
1:01:55
around the world eat insects
daily, but it's still a big
1:01:58
taboo in Europe within five
years. I think we all eat a
1:02:02
couple of times a year insects
and worms are sustainable source
1:02:06
of energy containing 50%
protein. They only need a
1:02:09
fraction of the space water and
feed that breeding higher orders
1:02:13
of animals require their co2
emissions are minimal. The
1:02:17
larvae live for three months in
these boxes where they consume
1:02:20
grain. When they're large enough
to be harvested. They're flash
1:02:23
frozen and shipped to customers.
smocks Kramer and Barish. Ozel
1:02:27
are the founders of Lux burger,
the founders first encountered
1:02:31
edible insects during a world
trip seven years ago. That's how
1:02:34
they got the idea to start their
business. When
1:02:36
we first told friends, family
and acquaintances about our
1:02:39
idea, most of them said we were
crazy that there's no way it
1:02:42
would work. In the meantime,
everybody thinks what we're
1:02:45
doing is cool. And the next
thing they say is hey, when can
1:02:48
we finally try it out the
1:02:50
ground veal words are mixed with
peas water and a secret spice
1:02:54
mixture burger will lead to the
greatest meat being eaten that
1:02:57
will be good for the environment
because less grain will be used
1:02:59
for cattle feed. And the insects
are also climate friendly. A few
1:03:03
restaurants in Belgium and the
Netherlands already have Lux
1:03:07
burgers on their menu. Sonic
hamburgers cost between 12 and
1:03:10
17 euros
1:03:13
Adam Curry: they cost a fortune
they're going to be subsidized
1:03:18
John C Dvorak: your subsidize
theory note to say is probably
1:03:22
the only thing that's gonna save
this industry dollars. So it is
1:03:25
I'll give you a clip of the day
for that one hour. Thank
1:03:28
Adam Curry: you. I found it by
accident. Someone some ways
1:03:33
John C Dvorak: the most
disgusting disgusting Clip of
1:03:36
the Day. And probably for a long
time.
1:03:39
Adam Curry: Our future is in our
future. Yes, they've been
1:03:42
promising
1:03:43
John C Dvorak: they they've been
threatening us with this
1:03:45
forever. Oh Carson shows I've
been watching and they've talked
1:03:50
about it and
1:03:51
Adam Curry: all we do is live
all we do is laugh then that one
1:03:55
day you're gonna wake up
1:03:57
John C Dvorak: one day you're
gonna wake up and you're still
1:03:59
not gonna eat. Mr. Devore. I'm
1:04:01
Adam Curry: sorry, you can't buy
any beef on your credit card
1:04:04
because you drove a Lexus. An
old one a dirt as a motor at a
1:04:09
dirty motorized Lexus, Mr.
Dvorak. Do you know how much
1:04:14
improvement we've made on the
Lexus in the 25 years since you
1:04:17
bought that vehicle? Mr. Devore.
You are a dirty polluter. Carbon
1:04:21
criminal.
1:04:23
John C Dvorak: Your current
criminal that's another good
1:04:24
show title. I'm
1:04:25
Adam Curry: just rocking it
today. You're a carbon carbon
1:04:28
criminal. And then I'm sorry, it
won't work.
1:04:35
John C Dvorak: Well, I have the
cars built before they put in
1:04:40
the advices that could not be
remotely shut you down. I know
1:04:44
Adam Curry: they're coming.
They're coming for you. They're
1:04:47
coming for you. And anyway, um,
that's it's just a it's just a
1:04:51
little just a little All I'm
saying is get to know a rancher
1:04:56
somewhere because when it comes
down to it, here we go again. It
1:04:59
looks no money in this for me.
1:05:02
John C Dvorak: There's no we
notice you get free meat.
1:05:03
Adam Curry: No I do not. I tell
you you should go to deal
1:05:08
because I'm not like that
ranchers can't get
1:05:10
John C Dvorak: away not like
that. No, I'm not. No, that's
1:05:14
how you and I differ.
1:05:18
Unknown: Okay, point made
1:05:21
Adam Curry: I just want you to
know there's there's no benefit
1:05:24
to me and if there's no benefit
to Texas slim or anybody else,
1:05:28
the ranchers are running at
capacity so you better get in
1:05:31
while stocks last. Otherwise
you're just going to be over
1:05:39
okay, I mean, I'm just here to
help people. First Law first law
1:05:46
have no agenda here to help
people. Yeah,
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: I think that is
the first law have no agenda to
1:05:50
help people. All right. But I
got a bunch of different things.
1:05:55
I got Russia versus the Falun
Gong, which I thought was funny.
1:05:59
I got bank laundering I was
another bank caught being a
1:06:03
money laundering operation. Oh,
that's you like that? Yeah. Like
1:06:07
yeah, of course. Since about it.
Why did he is that your exit
1:06:12
strategy? Why do
1:06:13
Adam Curry: these guys launder
it when you can just print it
1:06:15
and just make some for yourself
and take it home?
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this TD
Bank of all places, which
1:06:21
Adam Curry: is that tweet from
TD America
1:06:24
John C Dvorak: which is from TD
America or not? Okay, play it.
1:06:28
Adam Curry: TD Bank hoping China
launder fentanyl money.
1:06:32
According to the Justice
Department. The Wall Street
1:06:35
Journal reports an operation was
uncovered in New York and New
1:06:39
Jersey which laundered hundreds
of millions of dollars in
1:06:43
illegal drug money via TD Bank
and other banks. This is TD I
1:06:48
knew I recognize it from my day
trading days. TD is from td td
1:06:53
ameritrade and I believe they've
been purchased by Wells Fargo
1:06:58
and they had their they had
their headquarters in New
1:07:01
Jersey. These these these guys.
1:07:04
John C Dvorak: Let me see if
they are owned by
1:07:06
Adam Curry: Wells Fargo. So I
think you know they're in Cherry
1:07:10
John C Dvorak: Hill New Jersey.
Wells Fargo is the was the
1:07:14
they're owned by Toronto
Dominion that's outdoor T D
1:07:17
comes from.
1:07:19
Adam Curry: I thought that
someone bought the MCC I could
1:07:20
be wrong. This is according to
court files. And people in the
1:07:24
know Chinese wondering Charles
Schwab Charles Schwab. I know
1:07:27
that Charles Schwab bought their
trading operation I don't know
1:07:30
if they bought the bank is
according to court files. And
1:07:32
people in the know Chinese
wondering money laundering
1:07:35
organizations have gotten very
good at shielding ill gotten
1:07:38
gains. These organizations
launder cartel cash quicker and
1:07:41
cheaper than competitors, often
with a money back guarantee
1:07:45
during a hearing on Chinese
money laundering Tuesday right
1:07:49
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse said
that Chinese money laundering
1:07:52
organizations work with Mexican
cartels to move fentanyl
1:07:57
profits. The Journal reports
according to court files in 2021
1:08:02
federal agents followed suspects
through New York City streets as
1:08:06
they carry giant bags of cash to
bank and on occasion, David
1:08:11
caught suspects bribing TD
employees,
1:08:15
Unknown: they can, you know make
them look the other way. When
1:08:18
opening bank accounts using a
fictitious high quality Chinese
1:08:23
passports. federal
1:08:24
Adam Curry: investigator Ricardo
mayoral told lawmakers he's
1:08:28
often seen these organizations
engaging in bribery, which
1:08:31
bypasses traditional detection
systems. So these guys also,
1:08:37
they own the Nordstrom credit
card. They own the target credit
1:08:42
card. This is quite the
operation. I'm digging this
1:08:47
John C Dvorak: in for it and 50
billion in assets. And
1:08:51
Adam Curry: what's this anywhere
on the quote unquote, mainstream
1:08:54
news I have not heard of this.
at all in the Justice Department
1:08:59
probe, the Chinese laundering
organization offered $57,000 in
1:09:04
bribes to TD employees. This
included gift cards, the
1:09:08
organization moved at least $653
million to 1000s of entities in
1:09:14
the US and Hong Kong. According
to court documents. The Justice
1:09:18
Department is also investigating
TD Bank for three other
1:09:22
instances of money laundering, a
Canadian regulator find it
1:09:26
nearly $7 million on Wednesday,
TD Bank said Thursday it's
1:09:31
cooperating with law enforcement
and strengthening its anti money
1:09:35
laundering program. Yeah, but
people people buying a $3 of
1:09:39
Bitcoin go arrest them, please
because you know that's how
1:09:43
criminals operate. Ignore the
guys with the fake passports
1:09:48
carrying bags of money down the
street. The American dollar is
1:09:54
still the best for corruption.
It's still the best criminal
1:09:59
activity with the Best,
1:10:00
John C Dvorak: it's the bet.
Well, you've always had this
1:10:02
thesis and I kind of agree with
it is very much proven true in
1:10:06
the first Cocaine Cowboys movie
which people should see great
1:10:10
movie was discussed the fact
that half the banks in Florida
1:10:13
were more or less supported as
money laundering operations for
1:10:16
the cocaine trade back in the
70s. And 80s. Great,
1:10:20
Adam Curry: great, great movie.
Yes, it's a great, great base of
1:10:24
recommender as a recommender for
a second version,
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: not so much.
1:10:28
Adam Curry: I never even watch
that. Just the original.
1:10:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh days
money laundering. Yes. We're
1:10:36
back major bank, not a slouch,
but
1:10:38
Adam Curry: old school with bags
of cash. I mean, you've gotta
1:10:41
hand it to them that that's
that's very good. I like it.
1:10:45
Good work, boys.
1:10:47
John C Dvorak: What else you
got? Well, we have another
1:10:50
congressman to talk about
corruption. I think this is the
1:10:52
Congressman that was caught VMC
it's an OTC Yeah. This
1:10:56
Adam Curry: is why it's one of
ours. One of our Texas homeboys.
1:10:59
Democratic
1:10:59
Unknown: Congressman Henry
Cuellar of Texas and his wife
1:11:02
have been indicted on conspiracy
and bribery charges. The Justice
1:11:06
Department says the case
involves the couple's ties to
1:11:08
Mexico and Azerbaijan. The
indictment says Quasar and his
1:11:12
wife accepted nearly $600,000 in
bribes from an Azerbaijan
1:11:16
controlled energy company and a
bank in Mexico from 2014 to
1:11:20
2021. And exchange were
allegedly agreed to help
1:11:24
Azerbaijan and the Mexican bank
by advancing their interests in
1:11:28
Congress. Were was at one time
the co chair of the
1:11:31
congressional Azerbaijan caucus.
And Diane says Claire agreed to
1:11:35
influence bills favorable to
Azerbaijan and deliver a pro
1:11:39
Azerbaijan speech on the House
floor. Federal disclosures show
1:11:43
that the Congressman traveled to
1:11:46
Adam Curry: excellent This is
excellent is this is
1:11:48
John C Dvorak: a guy quit er who
is Mexican American. Yeah. Or
1:11:53
just American. But he's, yeah,
he's really closer to Mexico
1:11:56
than he's in Texas. And he
somehow is representing
1:12:00
Azerbaijan. And nobody's a
little bit what what's going on
1:12:03
with this guy?
1:12:04
Adam Curry: Because everyone in
Congress is on the take
1:12:06
somewhere? Yes, well, it looks
like and what I would hope is
1:12:11
that people who just meme about
this and of course, there's a
1:12:15
lot of a lot of people who are
not fans of the Democrat Party,
1:12:19
go do that know what it is
corrupt people, once you go and
1:12:22
vote
1:12:24
John C Dvorak: going below the
Republicans who are in the same,
1:12:27
the Republicans who voted for
the big bill and all the rest of
1:12:30
it. I
1:12:32
Unknown: want to talk about that
too. Well, disclosers, a show
1:12:34
that the Congressman traveled to
Azerbaijan and 2013 Two years
1:12:38
later, quasars office announced
an agreement between a Texas
1:12:42
University and an organization
called the assembly of friends
1:12:45
of Azerbaijan. The Justice
Department to the couple
1:12:48
surrender to authorities today,
and were taken into custody.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: But see, this is
actually a follow up this. This
1:12:56
is the whole thing. It's like
when someone is hanging out with
1:13:01
the representatives from
Azerbaijan. I mean, what how is
1:13:06
this the people's business? The
people of Texas? How is it
1:13:10
helping? How is it helping the
people of Texas?
1:13:13
John C Dvorak: Have you made a
relationship between University
1:13:15
of Texas and a school in
Azerbaijan? I mean, there's
1:13:18
something there, please.
1:13:20
Adam Curry: So you remember
Gallagher, Representative Mike
1:13:23
Gallagher? He's the one that
introduced the original let
1:13:28
steel tic toc bill.
1:13:30
John C Dvorak: Yes. And he had
y'all remember, and he had a lot
1:13:33
of
1:13:33
Adam Curry: lobbying money from
Google. And so I've been waiting
1:13:36
to see where he shows up,
because he said he was going to
1:13:40
resign, actually. He, he
rescinded that. And he says, no,
1:13:47
no, no, I'm going to resign. So
he's going to resign on April
1:13:52
19. But he moved his resignation
to April 20. So that he
1:13:58
John C Dvorak: could wait that
when some stock options expire?
1:14:00
No,
1:14:01
Adam Curry: that was when we had
the TIC tock bill included in
1:14:07
the military industrial complex,
defense industrial base bill,
1:14:12
the $100,000,000,000.95 96 Give
or take for Ukraine, Israel,
1:14:19
Taiwan. So it was so important
for him to vote. And guess where
1:14:26
he shows up? He just got a job
at Palantir a fine Military
1:14:32
Industrial Complex company. And
that's how it works.
1:14:37
John C Dvorak: I ran into
something the other day it was
1:14:39
sponsored by Palantir. And I'm
thinking
1:14:42
Adam Curry: I'm spook and here
and here we are trying to make
1:14:46
some money with this with an
award show.
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: I mean, we're
Yeah, but it's gonna be a
1:14:51
winner. It's gonna be a winner
jury.
1:14:55
Adam Curry: We're doing it all
the wrong way. I have a CBS
1:14:58
John C Dvorak: reporter we
wanted to be a couple of corrupt
1:15:00
jerk offs. Yeah, we could go do
anything we wanted. But now
1:15:03
let's talk about the set. This
is more fun and people
1:15:07
appreciate it.
1:15:07
Adam Curry: It is I was I have a
lot more for you imagine having
1:15:10
to be a crook having to be a
criminal. I mean, like, hide
1:15:16
money and shell companies and
being in
1:15:19
John C Dvorak: helping you like
this quasar guy. He got his wife
1:15:23
arrested. Well, that's what you
do. That's what
1:15:26
Adam Curry: I mean. Take your
1:15:27
John C Dvorak: wife with her.
I'd taken everybody with me. All
1:15:29
my relatives are going down
ultimately
1:15:31
Adam Curry: that what's the
Congressman Bob? What's his
1:15:34
name? The other Caribbean? Yeah,
he threw his wife out there.
1:15:38
Hey, hey, she set it up. Where
she did
1:15:42
John C Dvorak: his wife under
the bus here, which
1:15:43
Adam Curry: she did. Yes.
Awesome. All right. Let's talk
1:15:47
about because, you know,
obviously Mike Johnson got he
1:15:52
got the blame for I guess the
blame for everything. But then
1:15:58
the besides us bringing this
bill to the floor for for the
1:16:04
aid to Israel, which is the the
big was the big problem. Then
1:16:07
they said and you're not done,
son go out there and talk about
1:16:11
anti semitism being unAmerican.
And we need we need a bill. We
1:16:16
need a big virtue signal bill we
need so I got some clips. I got
1:16:20
I got a couple two, I'd like to
hear yours. Because no matter
1:16:24
what side of the debate you
stand on, Congress shall make no
1:16:28
law. What is the actual term to
1:16:34
John C Dvorak: look at? Short
and sweet? Yeah,
1:16:36
Adam Curry: this is an actual
term. It's not it's not in
1:16:41
French is in French? It's I
think it's in French. Congress
1:16:47
shall make no law now see if I
can get the Congress shall make
1:16:51
respecting us prohibiting the
free exercise thereof or
1:16:54
abridging I'm sorry, of course,
I should have no abridging
1:16:57
abridging the freedom of speech
or the right of the press or the
1:17:02
right of the people to peaceably
assemble, and to petition the
1:17:06
government for a redress of
grievances. You know what, while
1:17:09
we're on this before, before we
go anywhere, since we're on the
1:17:13
First Amendment, again, Congress
shall make no law respecting an
1:17:18
establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise
1:17:24
thereof. This is the
Establishment Clause, which has
1:17:27
been misconstrued into
separation of church and state.
1:17:33
And would you know it, there's
an ad out there, there's some
1:17:37
group that is trying to promote
this, this podcast is brought to
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Separation of church and state.
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1:17:50
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democracy itself rests upon the
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John C Dvorak: called ABC. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yes. NBC Pomi slash
1:18:24
NBC. Yeah.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: Because this runs on
NBC podcasts. It's
1:18:28
John C Dvorak: an NBC podcast,
atheist podcast, there's the
1:18:31
atheist podcast, by the way, of
course. I'm not you know, anti
1:18:35
Christian nationalists by any
means. You are I'm not and I
1:18:39
tell you this rich I was asked
by atheists a mile away.
1:18:43
Adam Curry: Code bond Gino.
Cool. So anyway, so the
1:18:48
abridging of what this the way I
understand it, and I have a
1:18:53
couple clips too, but I want to
hear yours first. This
1:18:56
resolution, which really only
results in boy do we need
1:19:00
Chevron Chevron deference to
come to the Supreme Court soon
1:19:05
resulted in a proposal for the
Department of Education to adapt
1:19:11
title six, very similar to what
they did with Title Nine where
1:19:15
they said hey, you know, what?
Is gender whatever you identify
1:19:19
as you can't be discriminated
against. So yeah, dudes, you can
1:19:22
go into the women's locker room
and toilets and all that. And
1:19:26
Title six, has now defined what
anti semitism is, and then they
1:19:32
bundle that all up, including
the illegal chants, which we
1:19:35
discussed, because somehow
saying from the river to the
1:19:39
sea, Palestine will be free, is
dangerous, very dangerous, then
1:19:45
it could spark something
horrible and it's like yelling
1:19:48
fire in a crowded theater, or
it's fighting words or somehow
1:19:52
they've determined that they can
write regulations. It's not even
1:19:56
a law but regulations against
this type of speech and I I
1:20:00
don't think either one of us
feel that that is a good idea or
1:20:03
constitutional. I would agree.
So where did you get some clips
1:20:09
from and what
1:20:10
John C Dvorak: do I got these
clips? This is one of those
1:20:12
discussions that take place on
NTD would they bring a guy in in
1:20:17
the yak, yak yak about, about
this particular thing with some
1:20:21
ideas? I only clip these because
there's points of interest in
1:20:24
here. Here we go. This is
1:20:27
Unknown: in di D.
1:20:28
Joining me now to discuss the
act is Jonathan Hoolahan,
1:20:32
General Counsel and Director of
Legal operations at Citizens
1:20:35
defending freedom. Jonathan,
thanks for joining us. Good to
1:20:37
see you again. Now. The House
passed the anti semitism
1:20:40
awareness act in a bipartisan
vote. It's now waiting in the
1:20:43
Senate. Now Congressman Mike
Lawler who introduced the bill
1:20:46
said on the House floor quote,
It is absurd to oppose this,
1:20:50
that it somehow limits free
speech, adding that calling for
1:20:53
death to Jews isn't protected
speech, it's anti semitic. What
1:20:57
is your analysis of this bill?
1:20:59
Well, this is an interesting
bill. I mean, you have
1:21:01
conservatives and progressives
that really band together in a
1:21:05
lot of circumstances under the
banner of free speech, which I
1:21:08
agree in some circumstances, and
here's why. I mean, if you look
1:21:11
at the Constitution, First
Amendment, Congress shall make
1:21:15
no law abridging the freedom of
the press, or freedom of speech.
1:21:20
So that's the first amendment.
Some of the critics of this bill
1:21:24
have said it's too broad for
each free speech will be
1:21:27
chilled. And it really is
outside the boundaries of the
1:21:31
First Amendment. That being
said, this is really content
1:21:35
based restriction. And that's
okay sometimes, right. Why
1:21:38
there's obscenity, advocacy for
breaking laws, convincing people
1:21:43
to break laws commit mayhem, all
of those things are exceptions
1:21:47
to the to the First Amendment.
I'm sorry,
1:21:51
Adam Curry: who is this?
1:21:54
John C Dvorak: He had to back it
up again. I didn't write it
1:21:55
down.
1:21:56
Adam Curry: Oh, how is this an
exception to the First
1:21:58
Amendment?
1:21:59
John C Dvorak: He said the
deception the first amendments
1:22:02
are things like threatening
somebody sending you know doing
1:22:06
advocating riots. Yeah, but
those are all exceptions. Yeah.
1:22:10
First Amendment then he went
into a whole bunch of other
1:22:12
things. I thought they were all
part of the I think they're all
1:22:16
exceptions to the First
Amendment, which is an extension
1:22:20
of yelling fire in a theater but
you can't you know, threaten
1:22:23
somebody's life. You can't these
are all First Amendment issues.
1:22:28
Right. But
1:22:28
Unknown: listen here, but he
says content based restriction
1:22:31
and that's okay. Sometimes
right. Whether it's obscenity,
1:22:34
obscenities,
1:22:36
John C Dvorak: obscenity,
obscenity used to be against the
1:22:38
law, and it's not will you know,
that's a first that's
1:22:42
obscenities
1:22:42
Adam Curry: obscenities, you're
you're the biggest violator.
1:22:46
What
1:22:46
Unknown: is advocacy for
breaking laws, convincing people
1:22:51
to break laws, commit mayhem,
all commitment. Those things are
1:22:55
exceptions to the to the First
Amendment fighting words piling
1:23:00
so it kind of falls in that
bucket. Now, the issue is, is
1:23:04
this content based restriction
with this bill narrowly tailored
1:23:08
to a compelling government
interest, that's kind of the
1:23:10
case law where it falls. And I
would say I would agree that it
1:23:14
is a little broad using this
definition. And they should
1:23:17
tailor it down a little more
narrow. To be very specific that
1:23:21
these fightin words are calling
for criminal activity. What
1:23:23
we've seen on these campuses is
inherent it's, it's not free
1:23:28
speech, it's violent, it's not
letting Jewish students pass all
1:23:32
of those things are not
protected speech. So I get the
1:23:35
aim of the bill but we got to be
very careful when the government
1:23:37
is trying to compel some some
type of content based
1:23:40
Adam Curry: restriction.
Alright, so let's just let's
1:23:44
just break this one down for one
second. From the river to the
1:23:47
sea Palestine will be free. Do
you feel that that is a fighting
1:23:51
word? That is a call to
1:23:55
John C Dvorak: do I feel that
way? No. Okay. I'm not Jewish.
1:23:59
Yeah, does that I can assume
that some Jew Jewish people
1:24:02
might feel that way. Okay.
1:24:04
Adam Curry: They can feel bad
about it. But that's
1:24:09
John C Dvorak: your feeling. Oh,
1:24:10
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I
misunderstood it's about hurt
1:24:12
feelings I got
1:24:13
Unknown: expanding on the
critics side, Congressman Jerry
1:24:16
Nadler called the built
misguided adding that by
1:24:19
effectively codifying those
examples into title six, the
1:24:22
measure threatens to chill
constitutionally protected
1:24:25
speech speech that is critical
of Israel alone does not
1:24:28
constitute wrongful
discrimination. Help us
1:24:31
understand the title six that's
referenced here.
1:24:35
Well, yeah, I never thought I'd
agree with Congressman Nadler on
1:24:39
much so but under Title six of
the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
1:24:43
that ensures university or
college programs or activities
1:24:46
that receive federal funding do
not discriminate based on
1:24:49
national origin, ancestry
characteristics, those type
1:24:53
things. So under Title six,
those schools are already
1:24:57
supposed to be doing that. So
for example, if they have these
1:24:59
groups They're calling for
violence, they're calling for
1:25:03
death, Israel, all of these
really horrible things, then
1:25:06
those groups shouldn't be
allowed to exist on campus, they
1:25:09
should be investigated and
expelled because they're trying
1:25:12
to further a criminal act of
getting getting these, you know,
1:25:16
intimidating students those type
of things. So they shouldn't be
1:25:19
tolerated in the first place,
because it goes beyond first
1:25:22
amendment rights. So I do agree
that title six is a mechanism
1:25:26
already that already has
mechanisms that can be enforced
1:25:30
without adding to it. And I
would be very concerned about
1:25:32
giving the department education
more authority. Look, we've
1:25:36
already seen what the department
education has done with with
1:25:39
gender. I mean, they redefine
gender. So we're gonna give the
1:25:42
department education more
authority to to investigate
1:25:47
students, when they clearly
can't even get biological sex,
1:25:50
correct.
1:25:52
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
Well, good. he redeems himself a
1:25:55
little bit here. Yeah. So we
have a gabot with his packs in
1:26:04
his Attorney General packs and
packs and the attorney general.
1:26:07
Yeah. So he's suing over Title
Nine and say, Now, we're not
1:26:11
going to adhere to that. We're
just not going to do that. No,
1:26:13
no, no. And then in the same
breath is like, May is Israel
1:26:18
Awareness Month like Ah okay,
okay. All right. Let me see what
1:26:26
this guy winds up with on
1:26:27
Unknown: that no Congresswoman
Harriet hegman says the bill
1:26:30
provides no actual relief for
terrorized Jewish students and
1:26:34
infringes on the First
Amendment. Washington poses
1:26:37
saying the bill would create a
clear definition of anti
1:26:39
semitism and US law and then
enable the education department
1:26:43
to cut off funding to economic
institutions that are found to
1:26:47
tolerate such behavior. Based on
that definition. Do you think
1:26:51
the bill will effectively
address anti semitism on
1:26:54
campuses?
1:26:55
Well, not not particularly I
think what will will address
1:27:00
anti semitism is having
Chancellor's and university
1:27:03
presidents enforce the law, and
not a lot allow these things to
1:27:06
get out of hand by enabling the
department education to give
1:27:10
them more authority. Again,
Congress delegating their
1:27:12
authority to unelected and
unaccountable bureaucrats to
1:27:15
conduct investigations is not
the answer. When the answer is
1:27:18
the rule of law and using the
tools that are already in the
1:27:21
toolkit. It is not lawful to
prevent students of Jewish
1:27:26
ancestry to go to class, it is
not lawful to threaten or
1:27:29
intimidate. So there are laws on
the books, and these
1:27:32
Chancellor's. And presidents of
these universities need to show
1:27:35
leadership and show courage. And
doing the right thing is not
1:27:39
always easy. But they need to do
the right thing here. I'm just
1:27:42
very skeptical, skeptical of
giving the department education,
1:27:45
more authority, more deference,
especially when it comes to our
1:27:49
constitutional rights. Oh, he
1:27:51
Adam Curry: says the word
deference.
1:27:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
1:27:53
Adam Curry: I like that. Okay,
he's
1:27:55
John C Dvorak: back in your good
graces we
1:27:57
Adam Curry: turd. We totally
need to we need I was talking
1:28:00
to, you know, who came through
town the other day, we had
1:28:03
dinner, some drinks for his
birthday was the oil baron.
1:28:07
Okay. And I'm saying so, you
know, you know, we're talking
1:28:11
about what's going on. And you
know, he says, you know, should
1:28:14
buy any weird. First of all, you
said, all the Democrats he knows
1:28:18
and he travels in Austin. So
lots of Democrats. He says, All
1:28:23
my friends are like, they're on
the outside. Yeah, go Joe. But
1:28:26
they tell me they're all voting
for Trump. Because they don't
1:28:29
want to be ousted from the group
from their other Democrat
1:28:32
friends who are probably also
lying and are going to vote for
1:28:34
Trump. But he says it's actually
bad for us because if Trump gets
1:28:39
in, then the oil prices will
kind of stay where they are. And
1:28:43
they're going to start going
down. He said that if Biden gets
1:28:47
to go for another, another go
around. He says the oil prices
1:28:51
will skyrocket. He says it's
been held down artificially, by
1:28:56
a whole bunch of means.
1:29:00
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
have asked him, I
1:29:02
Adam Curry: can still ask him,
so yeah.
1:29:05
John C Dvorak: Well, the
production of oil in this
1:29:07
country is at the highest it's
ever been, despite what Biden
1:29:11
says, but it's a fact. Yeah. So
I think he's just saying it's,
1:29:16
you know, they're making a big
fuss about petroleum because
1:29:19
it's because of the base of
idiots. And because of the high
1:29:25
production going on here and
does and I guess cutting off the
1:29:28
Russian stuff may be affected
the whole the whole scene, the
1:29:32
price of oil is too high now.
It's not too low. It's not
1:29:36
artificially low by any means.
But he
1:29:38
Adam Curry: says it could double
he says it's crazy. I can see it
1:29:41
going up. Yeah, yeah. I'm just
telling you what the what the my
1:29:44
boy in the oil business says,
you know, I have no other
1:29:47
John C Dvorak: probably as a
feeling for it. He's in the
1:29:49
business after all, he told
1:29:52
Adam Curry: the EPA, you know,
remember they have all you've
1:29:55
got to shut off these things.
You've got leakage everywhere
1:29:58
and data
1:29:58
John C Dvorak: leakage and never
find theories that are Yeah,
1:30:01
product is just going out the
window he
1:30:03
Adam Curry: says that we have so
much basically just free gas
1:30:07
that is just just out there that
no one is building any plants
1:30:11
for he says we could set with
the week, we can't even give it
1:30:15
away. Gas nicaise natural gas,
we could power the country for
1:30:20
1000 years with all this gas
that we're not allowed to do
1:30:23
anything with. It's just that
it's just there. We also have
1:30:27
John C Dvorak: 350 years that
known reserves of coal that we
1:30:29
could power the country with her
350 years. Plus another 1000
1:30:34
years again, we could just be
going like crazy for the next
1:30:37
you know. 1500 years, it seems
and no one would blink an eye
1:30:44
but no no, no oil.
1:30:45
Adam Curry: No. Yeah. Peak Oil
by your electric vehicle people
1:30:50
John C Dvorak: ordering the grid
down. I'm driving around
1:30:54
yesterday. I mean, local, local
driver. Oh, here we go. The cars
1:30:59
that are parked on the street
and elsewhere. Where are you?
1:31:01
Where are they going to charge?
You have to charge an electric
1:31:04
car every night?
1:31:06
Adam Curry: Yep. Yep. How about
how about Los Angeles? You
1:31:09
imagine being on the 10 with
like 30% battery?
1:31:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can
imagine. It's no big deal
1:31:20
because you're not moving. And
the electric car only uses
1:31:23
energy when it's moving. So you
could sell for hours on end. How
1:31:26
about your air conditioner?
Well, that would be chewing up
1:31:29
some gas and gas. Alright, right
1:31:32
Adam Curry: I got a couple of
clips here from from the nap.
1:31:34
The Napster judge nap. Now when
it comes to freedom, you want to
1:31:39
be listened to judge Napoletano
1:31:40
John C Dvorak: by the way. I'm
gonna just before you do that,
1:31:43
you know, you brought up this
idea of this group of people you
1:31:46
had a name for him that counter
podcasters or something
1:31:51
controlled opportunists that
couldn't Yeah, those guys.
1:31:54
There's another as a third
group. Oh, no. And Napoletana
1:31:58
was part of this third group and
he keeps bringing these Amrinder
1:32:02
Ritter he's bringing later got
Ritter I think McGregor
1:32:06
McGregor. McGregor is in this
third group. And there's a note
1:32:09
there's a there's this Larry
White, I think his name is
1:32:13
another expert or No, Larry,
some. And there's a bunch of
1:32:16
these guys. And it's like it to
me, you because that group that
1:32:19
you defined, I think there's
another group and I think that's
1:32:22
this group in the peloton was
right in the middle of it? Well,
1:32:25
I
1:32:25
Adam Curry: like him. I like I
don't like it when he has those
1:32:28
guys on because, you know,
people will say, This is great.
1:32:31
It explains everything to ours
doesn't explain anything. But he
1:32:36
nails this one down the way I
see this.
1:32:39
Unknown: The House of
Representatives voted by
1:32:40
overwhelming numbers to define
anti semitism in such a way that
1:32:46
if you repeat certain phrases
from the New Testament, you can
1:32:50
be declared an anti Semite.
Okay, let them say what they
1:32:53
want about me. Ah, but if you're
a college professor or college
1:32:57
administrator, or you're a
student on the college, let's
1:33:00
you say this, the college can
actually lose federal funds.
1:33:04
Now, this is not the law yet.
The Senate hasn't, hasn't voted
1:33:08
on its version of this yet. Joe
Biden would probably sign up
1:33:12
because he likes to curry favor
with Prime Minister Netanyahu
1:33:17
and his government. But I would
think that the first person
1:33:20
harmed by this law would
challenge it in the federal
1:33:23
court and the first federal
judge that sees this thing will
1:33:28
invalidate it, because Congress
shall make no law abridging the
1:33:32
freedom of speech basically
means that you decide what to
1:33:38
say and what to listen to. And
the government has no say in
1:33:42
making those decisions. Because
the whole purpose of the First
1:33:45
Amendment. This is right out of
about two dozen Supreme Court
1:33:49
opinions now is to keep the
government out of the business
1:33:52
of speech. He's a constitutional
lawyer he would know regarding
1:33:56
the House of Representatives
anti semitism Bill, did all the
1:34:00
members of Congress who voted
for passage of the bill violate
1:34:04
their oath of office? Yes, they
did.
1:34:06
Adam Curry: This the way he's
taking questions. He's taking
1:34:07
questions. Okay. I
1:34:08
John C Dvorak: want to say you
mentioned some of your youth
1:34:10
called this a resolution it
appears to be an act. It
1:34:14
Adam Curry: No, it's HR, it's a
house resolution. It's a
1:34:18
resolution that resolves the
there's no extra law being
1:34:22
written here. They're adapting
title six. That's just saying,
1:34:26
Hey, we think you should change
title six. Okay.
1:34:29
John C Dvorak: Department of
Education goes into the
1:34:30
Department of Education is
involved. Yeah, Chevron
1:34:33
deference. These people run
deficits got to get in. Sooner
1:34:37
than later they'd knock this
crap off.
1:34:39
Adam Curry: Let me just say
Congress would impress me. If
1:34:42
they said we're writing a law a
bill a law that says you cannot
1:34:48
say this then you would impress
me with your big mouth but know
1:34:51
what they're doing is yeah, we
gave Jamie usually change a
1:34:54
bikini him because they don't
have the balls because they know
1:34:57
it's completely
unconstitutional. So it's a
1:35:00
resolution that says, Department
of Education, you should change
1:35:05
that
1:35:06
Unknown: great question that
violated their oaths of office
1:35:09
because every twice a month I
did when I became a state judge
1:35:13
in New Jersey the President did
when he became president, a
1:35:16
school board janitor takes and
that is fidelity to the
1:35:20
Constitution, which includes the
First Amendment, not the
1:35:23
Constitution as they want it to
be. But the Constitution as the
1:35:27
courts have interpreted. Great
question. Okay,
1:35:29
Adam Curry: we'll do one more.
And then we're done with and
1:35:31
under HR
1:35:32
Unknown: 6090. The New Testament
is anti semitic hate speech. How
1:35:36
can you swear on the Bible in
court now? How can they swear on
1:35:40
the Bible when they take their
oath of office? Great question.
1:35:43
And great observation. Great
question. Statements made in the
1:35:47
New Testament, Matthew, Mark,
Luke, and John, the Acts of the
1:35:51
Apostles and St. Paul's letters,
to the Hebrews to the Romans to
1:35:55
the Colossians. to the
Thessalonians. All of that is
1:35:59
hate speech under this
despicable legislation that the
1:36:02
House of Representatives passed
yesterday. I don't think the
1:36:05
Senate is going to pass it. And
it is inconceivable to me that a
1:36:09
judge would allow it to last,
the first judge before whom it's
1:36:13
challenged will enjoin its
enforcement immediately.
1:36:17
Adam Curry: So I'm just helping
me here, John, I'm reading hr
1:36:20
6090 House resolution. It says
at the top enact but this an axe
1:36:26
is the acting, that doesn't mean
it's law just helped me
1:36:29
understand make sure I'm saying
this right. And it says to
1:36:32
provide for the consideration of
a definition, consideration not
1:36:37
this is what we define it as
consideration of a definition of
1:36:40
anti semitism set forth by the
International House of Pancakes,
1:36:44
a Holocaust Remembrance Alliance
for the enforcement of federal
1:36:48
anti discrimination laws
concerning education programs or
1:36:51
activities, and for other
purposes. So they're asking for
1:36:55
consideration of a definition.
1:36:57
John C Dvorak: They're they're
designing something to throw it
1:37:01
to department, I think he would,
he said was right. They're
1:37:04
designing something to throw it
to her at the Department of
1:37:07
Education to make them do a
bunch of differences, you know,
1:37:10
bunch of different Yes, rules, a
bunch of rules. And the rules
1:37:14
are only apply that the rules
are designed to apply to the
1:37:18
colleges, they get federal
funding, so they can hold the
1:37:21
sword of Damocles over their
heads. Exactly. And dig and let
1:37:26
them do their own thing. I mean,
I think everybody's right,
1:37:29
you're right. He's right. And
this is just a chicken kind of
1:37:33
approach. Do not want to do
anything, but you know, pass on
1:37:37
it here. You guys go do this for
us. Yeah. So we don't have to do
1:37:40
exactly. So we, we can look good
in the process by voting. Yes.
1:37:46
Adam Curry: And I will just
remind everybody, Chevron
1:37:48
deference, Jeff, Chevron,
Chevron, Chevron deference,
1:37:52
Chevron, Chevron deference is
under review, we'll come up with
1:37:57
the Supreme Court and what that
will force is a complete redo of
1:38:02
how laws are written. So laws
will
1:38:05
John C Dvorak: be agencies.
Yeah. So the agencies basically
1:38:09
will no
1:38:09
Adam Curry: longer be able to
interpret the laws, the laws
1:38:12
will be sent back to Congress,
and they will have to define
1:38:16
exactly what the law is and not
leave it up to the agencies
1:38:20
which would, which would save
our country? If if, if, if if,
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: and of course,
the irony, remained, because I
1:38:29
think I wrote this up in his
substack. The irony is that the
1:38:35
is all began during the Reagan
administration. Yes, during a
1:38:40
case where the EPA was because
Reagan told the EPA to back off.
1:38:46
And so they started changing
their rules, they backed off and
1:38:50
they got sued by a by a climate
change on you know, grew I've
1:38:56
some climate people, climate
critters, it was a lawsuit, and
1:39:02
it was, it was against Chevron
for not having to follow the
1:39:06
older rules, because the EPA
backed off and they and they
1:39:10
would of course, decide, hey,
the EPA, it's up to them, they
1:39:13
can do whatever they want. And
if they back off on their on the
1:39:17
rules and make things easier on
Chevron, that's just too bad.
1:39:21
That's just the way it is. It
became known as the Chevron
1:39:23
deference. But then it know that
it became an issue once they
1:39:27
went the other way. And they did
damage this. The problem is
1:39:29
Republicans and Democrats, the
Democrats get in and they crank
1:39:32
the rules up in the other
direction. And now our wishes
1:39:35
Oh, this is bad. What was fine
during the Reagan
1:39:39
administration, but now it's
bad. Okay. Exactly. It's kind of
1:39:44
it's a basic path
1:39:46
Adam Curry: to healing. It would
be it would be healing for our
1:39:50
country.
1:39:51
John C Dvorak: But it's but in
reality, this shouldn't be for
1:39:56
that case, which was in the 80s
it Congress had a little more
1:40:01
responsibility and then handing
everything off to these these
1:40:04
bloated was a kangaroo court
that was part of that system.
1:40:08
bloated you were part of it.
Yeah when I was in the air
1:40:11
pollution district it was a
kangaroo court they had their
1:40:14
own hearings and their hearing
board and you had to stand up
1:40:17
when the guys came into the
hearing
1:40:21
Adam Curry: for the guys in the
agency know your
1:40:24
John C Dvorak: court system Wow,
they all these agencies do they
1:40:28
have their own little kangaroo
court and they bring people in
1:40:31
and the next thing you know
there are so and so the head of
1:40:34
the whatever was called the air
the board and they get
1:40:37
everyone's stand they all stand
like it's a like a real judge
1:40:40
all hail all hell and they all
sit down and then they you know
1:40:44
you guys are fined a million
dollars for doing this and that
1:40:46
the other thing Okay, well, what
are we going to do about it
1:40:49
nothing.
1:40:51
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
1:40:53
current say in the morning to
you, the man who put the season
1:40:55
the Karman criminals ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
1:40:58
on the other end, the One Only
Mr. John Cena
1:41:07
John C Dvorak: should see boots
on the ground feet in the air
1:41:08
subs in the water all the days
and nights out in the morning.
1:41:18
Adam Curry: Well, 1986 1986,
1:41:21
John C Dvorak: Sunday sucks.
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Well, I like all
1986 trolls who are listening in
1:41:29
some of them are in the troll
room trolling away. And I got
1:41:32
lots of stuff to say, especially
the last couple of topics. It
1:41:35
was amazing. And I want to
remind everybody that we have I
1:41:40
don't know, we wrote no one
really knows how many people
1:41:42
listen and downloads and what
and no one really knows. We've
1:41:45
never played that game. But it
seems like there's probably
1:41:49
hundreds of 1000s of people. And
we're close, like 900,000 people
1:41:53
on a monthly basis who listen to
this podcast. And we love
1:41:58
celebrating our executive and
Associate Executive producers
1:42:00
that balances out because really
only a couple of percentage
1:42:03
points of people who support the
show, if everybody this is not
1:42:07
pitching for this, because
that's what NPR does. And
1:42:09
they're about to fold. If
everybody just supported us once
1:42:12
a month with $5. We I mean, can
you imagine?
1:42:17
John C Dvorak: That's the myth.
That's that myth of that's
1:42:20
Adam Curry: the myth. Yeah. So
the myth, the podcast, but I
1:42:22
want everyone to know that under
the value for value system when
1:42:25
you do that, and people say I am
broke it. Is there not one
1:42:31
single thing. If you find value
in the show, if you're listening
1:42:34
to the show, there's not one
moment in the month, where you
1:42:37
can say I'm going to contribute
some value back. One less
1:42:41
cappuccino. I mean, it's just
priorities. I'm only asked
1:42:44
John C Dvorak: winless cap if
everybody okay, let's say I've
1:42:47
cappuccinos four bucks at
Starbucks. It's probably more,
1:42:50
it's more Okay, let's say it's
four bucks, though we go easy.
1:42:53
If everybody gave us for
everybody of let's say close to
1:42:58
a million people gave us four
bucks a month. That would be $4
1:43:01
million a month we make and I
can see where you guys think
1:43:05
this is possible. I know. It's
Wow, we made $50 million. Yeah.
1:43:11
Adam Curry: It's not gonna
happen. We do exactly one month
1:43:13
of a show and retire. So it's
not gonna happen. It's not but
1:43:17
that's okay. So just from time
to time when when you hear us
1:43:22
asking for support. Consider us
do that. I mean, I, I live by
1:43:28
the same standard all the time.
People say, Oh, you got some
1:43:32
money for this. You got some
GoFundMe over here? I live by
1:43:36
the same rule. And honestly, as
the giving them makes me feel
1:43:38
good. I do. You probably don't.
Do you ever give money to
1:43:42
anything online?
1:43:43
John C Dvorak: I haven't gotten
to do the cash flow is so lousy,
1:43:47
horrible man.
1:43:50
Adam Curry: So to balance that
out people who clearly have more
1:43:53
value to give and that's just
because of their situation. We
1:43:57
give their titles executive and
Associate Executive Producer
1:44:00
ships, this stems from our, from
our roots from Hollywood.
1:44:04
Because the producers you think
that they're like producing the
1:44:07
movie like no call on the shots?
No, you're funding the
1:44:10
operation. So we have producers
who produce in many different
1:44:14
ways. A lot of ways and yeah, I
mean, we probably can't thank
1:44:19
our art. Well, we can thank our
artists. We can't do a review of
1:44:24
only say it's okay. Yeah, but I
mean, we're also not gonna have
1:44:27
any art 616 56 Johnson pivot,
very funny name. Artists.
1:44:37
Correct record, who I'm correct
record hadn't had a wind for a
1:44:41
couple of maybe a couple of
years. Been lagging in and
1:44:45
correct. The record came back in
with a very confusing piece of
1:44:48
art because, yes, we actually
use a piece of art that had kind
1:44:52
of President Biden's face on it.
And so Scarah manga, you know,
1:44:56
the Dutch guy, he's like, what
is what is it okay, now How to
1:45:00
Use to use a famous celebrity
1:45:04
John C Dvorak: get thinking
something that's an exception is
1:45:08
okay and it's going to happen
over and over again isn't as
1:45:11
faulty thinking
1:45:12
Adam Curry: it will Kenny been
in the same conversation she had
1:45:15
a right she says another fine
Dutch artist Kenny Ben says the
1:45:20
only rule is is a funny does
does it hit? Does it hit a
1:45:24
nerve? And I would say we're
always looking for something
1:45:27
that makes us laugh.
1:45:29
John C Dvorak: Would you agree?
Absolutely. The stuff that makes
1:45:33
it unless it's lewd. Yes. Yeah.
Because sometimes some lewd art
1:45:37
will make us laugh, but then
we're gonna probably in bad
1:45:40
taste.
1:45:40
Adam Curry: Congress is going to
outlaw lewd art soon enough.
1:45:43
Yeah. Yeah.
1:45:44
John C Dvorak: But we also
believe in and more or less good
1:45:50
taste.
1:45:52
Adam Curry: Okay, so true. It's
a fact we had a menthol Joe. But
1:45:57
of course, we know that
President Biden is pandering to
1:46:01
the black community, as he calls
it. Because it's all just on one
1:46:07
zip code. And, you know, they
were banning menthol cigarettes,
1:46:11
and, you know, so now, that's
the most racist thing I've ever
1:46:14
heard. Hey, hey, blacks, don't
worry, we're gonna let you smoke
1:46:18
them up your Menthols. It's
unbelievable. Don't lose the
1:46:22
black vote no, no. And then we
even had the hidden a little
1:46:24
thought little little cartoon
balloon there. You ain't black,
1:46:28
pointing out. So the hypocrisy
of menthol Joe made us chuckle
1:46:33
was a good piece. A you know,
correct a record is one of those
1:46:37
pros and just did a great job.
There were some other ones I
1:46:42
know that we that we considered
but no agenda rt generator.com
1:46:45
is currently down. So hopefully,
Sir Paul Couture's, okay, and
1:46:50
he's working on it. And
hopefully, it's not too bad that
1:46:52
we can have it up by the next
show. And we appreciate the work
1:46:56
that all of our artists do.
We're sorry, if it comes across
1:47:00
as confusing. But that's, that's
the art world, man. It's how it
1:47:08
rolls man. Hey, man, it's how
the art roll the art world
1:47:11
rolls. But and typically we're
able to, we're able to critique
1:47:14
all the pieces, but we can't do
that today. So thank you.
1:47:17
Correct. The record is a perfect
example of time and talent given
1:47:21
by our artists. And you can
always check those out. All of
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podcast. apps.com. Now, to thank
our executive and Associate
1:47:35
Executive producers for episode
1657. We kick it off with Sir
1:47:40
Tommy hawk. from Iowa City,
Iowa. 504 24 I have a feeling
1:47:46
that may be $500. And he added
the PayPal fees. It's
1:47:50
John C Dvorak: more than $4.24.
Okay, so
1:47:53
Adam Curry: is there a reason
why 504 Because what was Cinco
1:47:56
Demayo, but it would that would
have been 505. So I don't know.
1:48:00
But he does, says ITM AC JCD.
Star Wars. Oh, I see. That's why
1:48:06
it's for 504 24 Star Wars Day
donation. Yes. May the Fourth be
1:48:11
with you from a future dementia
patient listening at 1.5 speed.
1:48:16
Sorry to hear that. Thankfully,
that won't happen within the
1:48:18
next four years. So I'll just
keep enjoying the best podcast
1:48:21
in the universe. Thanks for all
you do. And you see that Mark
1:48:26
Hamill, they rolled him out
again.
1:48:29
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, Mark
Hanna. When they posted a
1:48:31
picture of him hugging Karina on
July Pierre. Ivan have so and
1:48:37
he's and he's also at the
podium. This is a violation of
1:48:40
the Hatch Act.
1:48:41
Adam Curry: Yes. And I can I can
accentuate that with let me see
1:48:46
I had him here. Using
1:48:49
John C Dvorak: the White House
podium to promote Joe Biden for
1:48:51
president is illegal.
1:48:53
Adam Curry: Yes. And then he was
backstage in the in the press
1:48:57
office and he recorded and
posted this with a with a
1:49:01
picture of laser eye Joe.
1:49:04
Unknown: Hey, I'm Mark Hamill.
And I'm voting for Joe Obi Wan
1:49:08
Kenobi.
1:49:10
Adam Curry: And apparently
they're handing out aviators now
1:49:13
as swag in the White House. Did
you catch that? No, I did not.
1:49:18
He came out with it with
aviators all
1:49:20
John C Dvorak: in violation of
the Hatch Act. Yeah, well, gee,
1:49:24
Adam Curry: okay. Well, Mark
Hamill, though is just like why
1:49:28
would you lend yourself to that?
Because
1:49:30
John C Dvorak: you like Joe Do
you think Joe sharp sharp as a
1:49:33
tack sharp Yeah. And he's hurt
back room so he gets to see Joe
1:49:36
and he's sharp is attacking just
doing the zingers out there.
1:49:39
Hashtag
1:49:40
Adam Curry: show art everybody
if if you're planning on posting
1:49:44
something that we can use the
show art hashtag show art
1:49:47
John C Dvorak: posted on the
master. Appreciate
1:49:50
Adam Curry: it. Thank you, sir
Tommy hawk. Scott
1:49:53
John C Dvorak: Graham's up he's
in Portland, Oregon. He had no
1:49:55
note I couldn't find a note
anyway. And he came in with 453.
1:49:59
So in Till He sends us a note
which we'll read later, we'll
1:50:02
give him a double up karma. And
yes, we will.
1:50:05
Adam Curry: double ups you've
got karma moving on with 333 dot
1:50:13
33. We love that sir EA of the
tax domain from Clarkston,
1:50:17
Michigan. And he says after
wrapping up the bulk of tax
1:50:21
season in April, I thought about
the attached explanation of the
1:50:24
US tax system, producers may
find it of interest. This
1:50:28
donation takes me past Baron
level. And he I will put this in
1:50:32
the show notes. Let me see. He
sent us. Let's see what he
1:50:36
called this. He called this the
parable of 10 men in a bar.
1:50:40
Yeah, it is a very long I'll
post as a PDF, but it's, he says
1:50:46
is one of the best analogies
I've seen to explain the
1:50:48
downfall of socialist taxation
policies. This is how income
1:50:52
taxes are paid in the US. And
I'll post that Sir, we're gonna
1:50:56
take a look at it. It's kind of
a brain twister, but when you
1:50:58
look at it, you go ha, ha, okay.
Why don't we just print it? Just
1:51:05
print it?
1:51:07
John C Dvorak: Sure, thinking
dad's up. He's in Broken Arrow,
1:51:09
Oklahoma at 333 Dots three,
three. And he says the first
1:51:14
season of the thinking dad
podcast launches tomorrow with
1:51:21
an exclusive interview with Alex
Newman, founder of liberty
1:51:25
Sentinel media uncovering the
dangerous global strategy to
1:51:28
standardize education. Yeah, the
thinking dad podcast equips men
1:51:34
to think biblically about
family, faith, business and
1:51:38
culture. Find it at thinking
dad.net Adam, you have an open
1:51:43
invitation to come on and talk
about your faith. Family career
1:51:46
Season One guests include Rick
Green, Dr. George Barna. Kevin
1:51:51
Sorbo, and many head more heavy
hitters and you'd fit right in
1:51:56
perfectly
1:51:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, well we no
regrets em. Rick Agnes Sorkin
1:52:03
have
1:52:03
John C Dvorak: a baby with me
native ad looks like to me I'm
1:52:06
Adam Curry: with it. Yeah but
native ad with a promotional
1:52:09
opportunity to drive up to
Broken
1:52:11
John C Dvorak: Arrow and hanging
out I
1:52:13
Adam Curry: might do that. No,
email me sir hold my beer is in
1:52:18
Austin Texas right down the
road. 333 33 ITM y'all four more
1:52:22
years shout out to Linda Lou
Potkin no jingles No. No jingles
1:52:28
no commerce or hold my beer. You
know, Ash Ashlynn speed. Our F
1:52:32
for Formula racer. Yeah, so
she's out. It was an eagle
1:52:36
Canyon. I think racing today. I
saw that picture is a nice one.
1:52:39
Yes, she did you see the picture
of her with she's next to the
1:52:43
car. She's got an which has the
no agenda logo on it. She's
1:52:46
holding a can of gigawatt Coffee
Roasters coffee. And she's
1:52:51
holding up a Linda Lou patcon
sign. She got all the sponsors.
1:52:58
John C Dvorak: You get what
coffee? I'm running out by the
1:53:00
way boys like this. I love
1:53:03
Adam Curry: it. I love
outstanding product. I love it.
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: That was to hold
my beard. Then I got Paul
1:53:10
Heaney. He's in Kremmling
Kremmling Colorado 33333 working
1:53:16
in Alabama. That's where he is
now. Wondering where are the
1:53:20
cicadas and get another week or
so to go. And where is Mike
1:53:24
Johnson's mouth? Also I need a
deed douching
1:53:29
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
1:53:33
Adam Curry: had a lot of people
cracking up that was pretty
1:53:35
good. We move on to de Nancy
from San Bruno California. And
1:53:41
she sent in a typed note. Dear
John, but I'll read it 33333 I
1:53:47
bought three donuts that Lunardi
is yesterday for $8.77 Stopped
1:53:53
at the arco to fill the tank gas
was $5.69 Inflation is killing
1:53:59
us. Producers should realize
inflation also hurts inflation
1:54:03
also hurts John and Adam they
buy groceries too. Yes we do. So
1:54:09
donate he says she says thanks
for the deconstruction it's
1:54:12
appreciated sincerely, Dame
Nancy of the confused and we
1:54:16
appreciate you Dame Nancy Thank
you very much.
1:54:18
John C Dvorak: We have gasoline
cars Yeah we do. Well you do
1:54:21
bill in Charlotte North Carolina
333. He says ITM and thank you
1:54:26
for all your amygdala shrinking
media analysis ITM to all the no
1:54:29
agenda community in the Greater
Charlotte Metro. I'm going to
1:54:33
make one of those Thirsty
Thursdays soon.
1:54:38
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, those
are the those are the big ones.
1:54:40
Those are the big the big
meetups in Charlotte PJs in New
1:54:44
York City, our first Associate
Executive Producer, two two, and
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PJ says get John's newsletter
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gram ball. That's right booster
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1:54:59
for all Thank you very much BJ
short and sweet.
1:55:01
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:55:05
John C Dvorak: Felix Gor
Nietzsche in Farmington,
1:55:08
Connecticut 220 that he wants
relationship karma. Now another
1:55:14
short and sweet note.
1:55:15
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:55:18
Adam Curry: Jason Christian is
in Seattle Washington comes in
1:55:22
with 210 60. Thank you for your
logic. us a new one. Thank you
1:55:27
for your logic. I did not accept
the jab into my life and if
1:55:30
adopted Adams phrase, we know
it's not effective. Is that my
1:55:35
phrase? No, but it's a great
good phrase. Sir, for safe. Sir
1:55:42
Friday of the hot shop turned me
on to your show. And currently
1:55:45
we have our art glass show at
Montauk gallery in San Fran.
1:55:50
None of you. Oh, I'm sorry,
Montague. Thank you Montague.
1:55:53
Where's the money you gallery in
San Francisco?
1:55:55
John C Dvorak: I know I have to
go over there because he left
1:55:57
the book for me I have to go Oh,
1:55:59
Adam Curry: but take some
pictures. I want to see this art
1:56:01
glass show that sounds that
sounds fun glasses
1:56:03
John C Dvorak: a big deal.
1:56:04
Adam Curry: What do you mean
1:56:06
John C Dvorak: it's a big deal.
It's a it's especially in the
1:56:08
Pacific Northwest where they was
really kind of popularized by
1:56:13
Gillooly Gilhooly whatever is
named Gillooly. Who I met on a
1:56:19
very boat once don't
1:56:21
Adam Curry: bet it was a ferry
boat. Now, don't we have Texas
1:56:26
hot glass here in Texas is that
she makes
1:56:29
John C Dvorak: I think just
okay. A lot of people do it and
1:56:32
it's it's tough stuff. Anyway,
gigawatt coffees up. And he's in
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Bensenville, Illinois 20505. And
he says Hey, happy Cinco de mio
1:56:42
little observed holiday in
Mexico. But in genius beer
1:56:45
companies co opted in the 1980s
to sell cerveza Edward Bernays
1:56:51
would be proud. But we do need
an excuse for tacos to cut a and
1:56:55
tequila by think not. Alright,
can I get a kind of a kumbu
1:57:02
belated note? I think not. Can I
get a Spanish in the morning
1:57:06
jingle. By the way. Coffee is a
great cure for May 6 Tequila
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hangovers. So visit gigawatt
coffee roasters.com and use code
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ITM 20 for 20% off your order.
Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee
1:57:20
guy.
1:57:22
Adam Curry: Stephanie 201 and
she also has a note let me see
1:57:27
what Stephanie's note is here.
Dear John Adam. This marks my
1:57:32
first donation after finding the
show in late December. Apologies
1:57:35
for the delay. I wish I could
send more No, no, no thank you
1:57:38
nice card by the way. Her card
says with gratitude. You're
1:57:43
amazing. Very nice. No agenda
has changed my life since
1:57:47
December. I've been dragging my
feet to write this letter
1:57:50
because I don't have the words
to show my appreciation for all
1:57:53
that you both do. You just set
it up. Thank you. As an aside,
1:57:57
please see the rest of my note
and close and close apologies
1:58:00
for the lengthy note feel free
to read as much or as little on
1:58:03
the show and she also wants to
be on the birthday list which
1:58:06
she's on for she turns 30 on May
6 Where's the rest of this note?
1:58:11
Oh,
1:58:12
John C Dvorak: is a separate PDF
let me just take a look here.
1:58:15
Adam Curry: Oh very long.
1:58:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
where I was put aside she said
1:58:19
Adam Curry: I think Adam will
get a kick out of the fact that
1:58:22
his deconstruction of the most
recent legislation was the push
1:58:25
I needed to get this letter out.
Specifically the dollars
1:58:28
allocated to the Department of
Energy for science along with
1:58:31
the emerging and never ending
clips of new science related to
1:58:35
climate change. Thank you. Very
nice note I appreciate it. We
1:58:40
both appreciate that you sent
that and thank you and welcome
1:58:44
Unknown: you've been de douche
to ask for
1:58:47
Adam Curry: it but she deserves
it thank you welcome to no
1:58:50
agenda nation. Stephanie LAPACK
1:58:53
John C Dvorak: in there she is
in Lakewood Colorado drops karma
1:58:55
is what she wrote once and she
also has his message for a
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writer of resumes also plugged
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But she's on the producers list?
1:59:16
Adam Curry: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's karma and we finish
1:59:25
up the list we got two more
Dennis price Pinegrove
1:59:28
California 200 He says I've been
donating $200 annually for years
1:59:32
and go back to the days with Leo
cranky geeks good times. Thank
1:59:36
you. This is a beautiful way to
support the show. You have you
1:59:40
both have strong political
beliefs but they seldom if ever
1:59:43
leak into the show. We all
appreciate that. Thanks Dennis
1:59:46
from Pine Grove California. Oh
really independent classical
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independence and politically
homeless I would say in the in
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the world non affiliated non non
affiliate I like I like
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unaffiliated, non US Feeling
2:00:00
John C Dvorak: unaffiliated same
thing thing.
2:00:02
Adam Curry: Thank you Dennis and
thank you for your annual $200
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Your Associate Executive
Producer ship is in the bag.
2:00:10
John C Dvorak: Tom Beals last.
He's in Brooklyn of all places,
2:00:13
New York. 200 bucks is my first
time donating to the show since
2:00:17
being introduced by the smokin
hot, Steph. Paoli low. A few
2:00:24
months back. Please wish her a
happy 30th which is Monday, May
2:00:30
6, may 6. She is the best and
loves you both dearly. Well. He
2:00:36
gets a de doop
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Adam Curry: de doop SBT Big D do
some right there.
2:00:42
John C Dvorak: About Steph is
she donate a hottie loves.
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Adam Curry: He loves us dearly
that that counts. And
2:00:50
John C Dvorak: that will be our
group of associate and executive
2:00:53
producers for show 1657 Heinz
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Adam Curry: thank you very much
to these execs and Associate
2:01:00
Executive producers and of
course, again, thank you to
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everyone who comes in under 50
We'll talk about those donors
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later. Who don't want to be
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understood and admirable and
people run simple little regular
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kinds of numbers. We appreciate
you and again thanks to the
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Executive Associate Executive
producers for producing episode
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1657 formula
2:01:33
Unknown: is this. We go out we
get people in the mouth
2:01:50
Adam Curry: and a reminder that
these are permanent credits you
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can put them anywhere credits
are recognized, including
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imdb.com which is groovy,
groovy. Africa news to scare
2:02:04
everybody off. Oh no. Come on
some African news. Come on. It's
2:02:07
a shorty real short. 39 seconds.
Don't worry won't hurt too much.
2:02:11
Unknown: The Russians are in a
separate compound and don't have
2:02:14
access to US forces or access to
our equipment. US
2:02:18
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
offering reassurances that US
2:02:22
troops in Asia are safe. His
comments came after Reuters
2:02:26
reported that Russian military
personnel had entered an airbase
2:02:29
in the capital Miami, which
houses US troops. New shares
2:02:33
junta has told us to withdraw
the nearly 1000 military
2:02:36
personnel the US has in the
country. At the same time,
2:02:40
Russia is seeking to strengthen
relations with Nigeria and other
2:02:43
African countries. Until a coup
last year. Niger had been a key
2:02:47
us partner in the fight against
Islamic insurgents.
2:02:50
Adam Curry: It's really what
what do we get out of Nigeria? I
2:02:52
mean, we we had a we have a
drone base there we actually has
2:02:57
John C Dvorak: probably minerals
of some sort I'm sure we
2:03:00
Adam Curry: listen to this. This
is I think a strategic we have a
2:03:03
drone base in Niger Francophone
2:03:05
Unknown: West Africa has seen a
series of regime changes and
2:03:09
radical shifts in policy
recently. French troops were
2:03:13
expelled from Niger last year
and now they're demanding US
2:03:17
troops get out get out the US as
a regional ally in its fight
2:03:24
against terror groups in the
region and operates a military
2:03:27
base and $100 million drone base
in the sub Saharan desert so
2:03:32
Adam Curry: there you go 100
million dollar drone base huh So
2:03:39
Russia is moving in at West
China and all of this is just
2:03:42
the bricks taking over
everything
2:03:44
John C Dvorak: get much
publicity for what they do they
2:03:46
do everything pretty much on the
side this May
2:03:49
Adam Curry: but I mean do you
think that the Russians and the
2:03:51
Chinese and are working together
to you know to take over Africa
2:03:56
and oldest minerals the minerals
2:03:59
John C Dvorak: well the Chinese
I think maybe somebody is yeah
2:04:04
Adam Curry: that the breaks that
we gotta be careful this bricks
2:04:06
has taken over we're gonna we're
gonna be out of luck I think so.
2:04:12
I think we're gonna be out of
luck stuffs gonna be bad
2:04:14
John C Dvorak: that's happened
could happen Yeah. Let's go to
2:04:18
Adam Curry: we just print some
more than the three by three by
2:04:20
the way.
2:04:21
John C Dvorak: Maybe the last
one.
2:04:22
Adam Curry: Why? Why maybe the
last one because
2:04:25
John C Dvorak: you know they're
getting cheated on like I'm
2:04:27
there.
2:04:29
Unknown: Because your haters
debridement JC D is failing
2:04:33
comparing story from ABC CBS
2:04:39
Adam Curry: All right. Well, the
jury is out we're not but you
2:04:41
know, the next three by three
could be a comparison in a
2:04:44
prelude to our award show could
be three by three of AI jokes
2:04:49
made about a certain topic,
2:04:51
John C Dvorak: or a three by
three of Joe Biden's voice. Yes,
2:04:54
Adam Curry: there you go. That
now you're talking now we have
2:04:57
now we
2:04:57
John C Dvorak: do have this is
about Biden. condemning the
2:05:00
violence. Here. He finally came
out and said something about
2:05:03
what's going on in the common on
the college campuses. It took
2:05:06
him forever. And so we know it's
got to be the big top of the
2:05:09
news now, so they get to do
three, three networks pretty
2:05:14
much producing the same story
with a variation always from
2:05:17
CBS. But let's start with ABC.
2:05:21
Unknown: Tonight the dramatic
images of authorities moving in
2:05:24
during the overnight hours
cracking down on protesters at
2:05:27
UCLA and driving them out,
continuing their efforts to oust
2:05:31
them as the sun came up.
University declaring this pro
2:05:37
Palestinian encampment an
unlawful gathering, calling in
2:05:40
outside help. Hundreds of
officers arriving in riot gear,
2:05:46
firing flashbangs and non lethal
ammunition. As officers cleared
2:05:53
a library where anti war
protesters had barricaded
2:05:56
themselves inside police
releasing photos of ball
2:05:59
bearings and DIY armor they say
were homemade weapons. Used to
2:06:06
force criminal charges. And
tonight authorities revealing
2:06:09
what they say has become all too
common outside agitators of the
2:06:14
12 people arrested in Portland
police a just for actually
2:06:17
students tonight after days of
protests across the country.
2:06:21
President Biden now speaking out
saying order must prevail.
2:06:25
destroying
2:06:25
property is not a peaceful
protest. It's against the law,
2:06:30
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down campuses,
2:06:34
forcing the cancellation of
classes and graduations. None of
2:06:38
this is a peaceful protest the
2:06:40
president condemning anti
semitism and threats of violence
2:06:43
against Jewish students. He also
spoke out against discrimination
2:06:47
against Arab Americans,
2:06:48
there is no place for hate
speech or violence of any kind,
2:06:52
whether it's anti semitism,
Islamophobia, or discrimination
2:06:56
against Arab Americans or
Palestinian Americans. It's
2:06:59
simply wrong.
2:07:00
Adam Curry: But why it is okay.
To say no white, white is okay,
2:07:06
no problem then. Take YT YT YT
can take it or you can take it.
2:07:17
John C Dvorak: So let's go with
MBCs YT.
2:07:21
Unknown: With the clashes
between college campus
2:07:23
demonstrators and police
reaching new heights today
2:07:26
President Biden condemning
violent disruptive protests,
2:07:30
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down key
2:07:34
Adam Curry: sounds more like
faster here.
2:07:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
2:07:38
Adam Curry: Did they spin them
up?
2:07:40
John C Dvorak: I think they, it
would be probably appropriate to
2:07:43
give to play him at one point to
speed that's
2:07:46
Adam Curry: what they're doing
here. They spun his voice up
2:07:48
below it
2:07:49
John C Dvorak: had to do a side
by side button could be
2:07:51
vandalism.
2:07:52
Unknown: trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down.
2:07:55
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm gonna
obsess over this. If I don't
2:07:58
just listen for a second.
Where's, let me get your ABC
2:08:02
report.
2:08:04
Unknown: Tonight, the drunk
driving them out continuing
2:08:07
their effort to oust them as the
sun came up.
2:08:11
John C Dvorak: Whereas a
university
2:08:13
Unknown: declaring this
Justinian
2:08:15
against the law order must
prevail. destroying property is
2:08:18
not a peaceful protest. It's
against the law, vandalism,
2:08:23
trespassing fashion, breaking
windows. That's the same as
2:08:27
shutting down campuses, forcing
the cancellation of classes and
2:08:30
graduations. None of this is a
peaceful protest, threatening
2:08:34
people, intimidating people.
instilling fear in people is not
2:08:38
peaceful protests
2:08:39
Adam Curry: against the better
question is Which Biden is it?
2:08:43
That's that's the question. It's
2:08:45
Unknown: against the law.
Nationwide,
2:08:47
more than 2100 arrests have been
made connected with campus
2:08:51
protests. Today. Portland State
University campus closed down as
2:08:55
police made 12 arrests and
cleared the school's library
2:08:59
overnight for arrested at Yale
90 removed from campus at
2:09:02
Dartmouth. And at the University
of Wisconsin's Madison campus,
2:09:06
defiant students re establishing
their tents just 24 hours after
2:09:10
police disbanded the encampment
there,
2:09:12
we're gonna be here indefinitely
until they meet our demand. Back
2:09:16
at UCLA
2:09:17
cleanup is underway with
Professor Graham Blair, who was
2:09:21
arrested this morning and the
encampment is defending the
2:09:23
students right to protest
despite some of the tactics
2:09:26
they've used. I
2:09:28
think anyone who is worried
about graffiti on buildings on a
2:09:31
college campus used to come
visit a college campus. It's 18
2:09:34
year olds who are learning for
the first time how to express
2:09:37
themselves.
2:09:38
Adam Curry: Oh, you put him
because if you put him to the
2:09:42
leftist generator, he stays the
same. Yeah,
2:09:45
John C Dvorak: that's for sure.
Now, these two reports are
2:09:48
interesting because ABC
concentrated solely on UCLA.
2:09:53
Yes. And ABC is owned by Disney
which is where UCLA is this the
2:09:59
call Hollywood, you know, UCLA
Westwood, as opposed to NBC,
2:10:05
which had a more kind of
eclectic look at all bunch of
2:10:08
different colleges. So that was
kind of an interesting
2:10:10
comparison. But let's see what
the big boys do at CBS the CIA
2:10:15
Adam Curry: Broadcast Systems.
2:10:17
Unknown: White House officials
say it was the sheer number of
2:10:20
violent encounters on college
campuses over the past two days
2:10:24
that prompted President Biden to
speak out
2:10:27
right to protest, but not the
right to cause chaos.
2:10:31
His comments came in the wake of
nearly 2000 arrests. More than
2:10:36
30 colleges and universities
start during the barricade just
2:10:40
today, protesters were ejected
from a library at Portland State
2:10:44
University that they had
occupied for three days. Inside
2:10:48
police say they found ball
bearings, paint balloons, spray
2:10:52
bottles of ink and DIY armor.
Vandalism,
2:10:56
trespass
2:10:57
Adam Curry: breaking DIY armor
that's the trash cans are
2:11:00
talking about is this DIY
2:11:02
John C Dvorak: girl that was on
one of these tick tock videos
2:11:05
that had a bunch of their
armored up now armored is
2:11:08
worried about rubber bullets.
2:11:10
Adam Curry: What do I smell?
That's my Armor Spray
2:11:13
Unknown: Bottles of ink and DIY
armor,
2:11:16
vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows shutting down campuses,
2:11:20
forcing the cancellation of
classes and graduations. None of
2:11:24
this is a peaceful protest.
2:11:28
Like many protesters, President
Biden has expressed concern
2:11:32
about the plight of Palestinian
civilians more than 34,000
2:11:36
killed according to the Hamas
run health ministry. But when
2:11:41
asked today if he would change
his policies towards Israel as
2:11:45
the protesters have been
demanding, Biden said simply
2:11:48
know, the unrest is now
threatening to become an
2:11:52
election issue. Young people are
a key democratic voting bloc.
2:11:57
Biden needs to listen to what
the students are calling for
2:12:01
which is an end to a genocide
funded by the United States.
2:12:05
So first things first stop
funding Israel's in battleground
2:12:10
Wisconsin, Donald Trump argued
Biden should have spoken out
2:12:14
sooner. There's a big fever in
our country and he's not talking
2:12:17
but Trump also made this
unfounded claim about campus
2:12:21
demonstrators they do come from
other countries and
2:12:23
Adam Curry: they are paid
unfounded claim really this this
2:12:28
is what broke this whole thing
is everyone sees it now.
2:12:31
Everybody sees that half these
people aren't at graduated 10
2:12:35
years ago. We get cold Pink
Lady. Yeah, Madea she's running
2:12:40
Roman is
2:12:41
John C Dvorak: like she's in
their 70s or something she's
2:12:43
posing as
2:12:44
Adam Curry: you can just hire
her you're gonna hire her and
2:12:47
all her cronies go anyway. Yeah,
hold up the sign. Okay. Donate
2:12:51
No problem. Good pink meanwhile,
looks like no deal yet. No deal.
2:12:59
Hamas says What? No deal. No
deal. And Bibi says no, yes.
2:13:02
Well, I got a no deal clip. I
got an ace no deal.
2:13:06
Unknown: Israel still has its
sights on Rafa and we're no
2:13:09
closer to a ceasefire. Hamas has
poured cold water on the
2:13:12
optimism surrounding the latest
round of talks in Cairo between
2:13:15
their delegation and Qatari
Egyptian and American mediators.
2:13:20
The AFP quoted a senior Hamas
officials saying there will be
2:13:23
no agreements without a complete
cessation of the war and
2:13:27
accusing Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu of personally
2:13:30
hindering the deal. The proposal
on the table would halt fighting
2:13:34
for 40 days and exchange
hostages for Palestinian
2:13:37
prisoners. According to details
released by the UK negotiations
2:13:41
are set to continue on Sunday.
But Israel is yet to send a
2:13:44
delegation to the Egyptian
capitol. late on Friday, US
2:13:47
Secretary of State Antony
Blinken said accepting a
2:13:50
ceasefire deal should be a
quote, no brainer for her mass.
2:13:54
And the reality in this moment
is the only thing standing
2:13:57
between the people of Gaza and a
ceasefire
2:13:59
is a mosque protesters kept up
the pressure on Netanyahu on
2:14:02
Saturday turning out in their
1000s again in Tel Aviv to
2:14:06
demand the government except to
ceasefire deal and secure the
2:14:10
release of the remaining
hostages Netanyahu is found not
2:14:13
to stop the war until Hamas is
destroyed and faces pressure
2:14:17
from nationalists in his
coalition to go ahead with the
2:14:20
offensive against the southern
Gaza City of Rafa.
2:14:24
Adam Curry: You know and I think
I think the problem is Hamas
2:14:26
doesn't have 33 hostages
anymore.
2:14:29
John C Dvorak: I think they're
all dead but but that was you
2:14:31
get that clip. That's France 24
Because they get France they
2:14:36
kind of left it. They made it
sound as though Blinken set in
2:14:39
negotiations. He's
2:14:40
Adam Curry: not he wasn't even
there. Was he in no in fact, I
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: have a clip. This
is from Al Jazeera which kind of
2:14:46
brings in very interesting who's
actually at these negotiations.
2:14:50
Adam Curry: Let me guess CIA
tell me the CIA is there.
2:14:55
John C Dvorak: You nailed it
2:14:56
Adam Curry: well, what's what's
the clip what's the clip was
2:14:58
ceasefire
2:14:59
John C Dvorak: delegation. AJ
got it.
2:15:02
Unknown: Gaza where the
humanitarian situation across
2:15:04
the strip is getting worse by
the day there have been more
2:15:07
attacks, more displacements, and
more suffering. But diplomatic
2:15:12
efforts to reach a ceasefire
deal are ramping up all eyes are
2:15:15
on Cairo on Saturday where Hamas
delegation is holding talks with
2:15:19
mediators from Egypt and Qatar,
as well as the CIA director,
2:15:23
William.
2:15:26
Adam Curry: Now, we should
mention, these talks are taking
2:15:30
place in Egypt. And what neither
of these outfits are saying is
2:15:34
Egypt is very key to the
resolution of all this, because
2:15:39
we know Egypt has received 7
billion euros from the European
2:15:42
Union to build camps, which will
be you know, like, I'm sure it's
2:15:47
like holiday, holiday camps,
holiday camps, then they'll open
2:15:52
up their border, which is
closed, shot tight, and then
2:15:57
some of them will be migrated
into Europe. And I'm pretty sure
2:16:03
that pier that we're building
there for humanitarian aid,
2:16:06
that's where people will be able
to hop off and get onto a boat
2:16:10
and go to America. So Egypt,
Egypt is a big player in this
2:16:14
and it's not really discussed,
unless you have something in
2:16:17
this next clip, not
2:16:19
John C Dvorak: about Egypt being
a big player, but it finishes
2:16:21
off the thought about we have
it's actually this guy, that
2:16:25
guy, the other guy in this our
CIA guy, which is like, okay,
2:16:31
yeah,
2:16:31
Unknown: all right. The group
says it's studying the latest
2:16:34
Israeli proposal in a positive
manner. But sticking points do
2:16:37
remain. Israel wants the return
of the captives being held in
2:16:40
Gaza, and Hamas is insisting on
a permanent end to the war.
2:16:45
Those talks come as the UN warns
that northern Gaza is now
2:16:49
experiencing a full blown famine
and moving towards the south,
2:16:53
the head of the World Food
Program is urging negotiators to
2:16:56
reach a ceasefire as soon as
possible to save lives.
2:16:59
Adam Curry: Ah, do you know who
the head of the World Food
2:17:02
Program is?
2:17:05
John C Dvorak: I'm going to find
out.
2:17:07
Adam Curry: You'll be surprised
you're gonna tell me I hear a
2:17:09
Kobs Here it comes.
2:17:10
Unknown: I just want to be very
clear, because what you're
2:17:13
saying is significant. And I
believe it's the first time
2:17:16
we've heard it. You're saying
there is full blown famine? Yes.
2:17:20
In Northern Gaza? FBF. Yes, I
am. And there has not been an
2:17:26
official declaration that there
is known but you are saying that
2:17:29
based on what you've seen? Yes,
it is. Based on what we've seen
2:17:32
in what we've experienced on the
ground. Yes. Which is, it's,
2:17:36
it's hard. It's, you know, it's,
it's so hard to look at, and
2:17:39
it's so hard to hear also. So
I'm just I'm so hoping that we
2:17:46
can get a ceasefire and, and
begin to to feed these people,
2:17:51
especially in the north, in a
more in a much faster fashion,
2:17:56
but also including, as I said,
water, sanitation, medicine.
2:18:00
It's all part of the famine, the
famine issue. And it's also
2:18:04
something that we need to make
sure that the world understands
2:18:07
we can't let this happen. It
just in this day and age when
2:18:12
the when the world has the
ability to feed itself 10 times
2:18:17
over. Nobody should starve.
Nobody should starve.
2:18:20
Adam Curry: That was Cindy
McCain. Widow of John McCain.
2:18:25
She is the executive director of
the food World Food Program.
2:18:30
Keep them busy. Interesting,
isn't it? Yeah,
2:18:34
John C Dvorak: I have a kind of
a side clip is similar that has
2:18:37
something to do with this
situation. This is the Houthis
2:18:40