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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Dvorak may 26 2024 This Year
Award winning give on AC media
assassination episode 1663. This
is no agenda revisiting and
broadcasting almost live from
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm looking
out my window and the ocean
hasn't arisen. What am I doing
here? I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: And Bushkill. All
right, this is where everyone
gets to listen to us as we've
sounded for the past five or six
years and wait until you hear
the rest of the show. It will
sound remarkably different. It's
the big climate change special,
John?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you put
this together based on using the
new being at IO. Search engine,
you found a bunch of stuff and
you couldn't get it. Now you're
telling us you couldn't get past
show? 100 you actually filled
all show up? Yes. Yes,
Adam Curry: I started at the
first that I searched for global
warming being at.io, which
anybody can put together a clip
show, by the way, hint, hint,
any topic you want works really
well. You can also embed stuff
into your favorite social
network. So the first mention of
global warming was November
30 2007. Okay, 2007. That was
AlphaGo. That was the first
mention when but I think and
that's our probably our first
clip up when you're talking
about how nothing, you know,
there was no change, there was
supposed to be horrible weather,
and there was only one
hurricane. And this is
consistent throughout the entire
first 100 episodes, which takes
us up to just about 2009. And
that had towers, I'm like, I
gotta stop here. And that was
only global warming, it wasn't
climate change, even I went
ahead to like 2010 to just throw
in a couple of things that I
have to like to eclipse just to
throw in some some extra stuff.
It's insane. How nothing has
changed. It's all about getting
rid of meat.
John C Dvorak: It's always about
the meat.
Adam Curry: It's the it's an all
you can see all these things
have changed over time. Like we
went from cow farts, to cow
burps all of a sudden that that
they
John C Dvorak: could the cow
first didn't get very far. And
Adam Curry: I think it's just
beautiful that we have this
capability now to do this. So we
can revisit every single mention
of global warming just in the
first couple of years, which
John C Dvorak: we got 10 More
shows to do on this easily,
Adam Curry: easily. We can do
it. Alright, well can't get up.
I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: Let me as safe as
you can get this much material,
although it's the same material
recycled obviously. Exactly what
not by us by them.
Adam Curry: Well, what's what's
interesting is the amount of
things that I had completely
forgotten about, it's some good
revisitation of up just the
source material, when it all
kicked off, it was all very
early on in the game. And you'll
sit there and go, Wow, nothing
has really changed. Those guys
are great. That's the main
point, I want you to think those
guys are great. Let's kick it
off by going back to the very
beginning episode for
John C Dvorak: the sciences. You
know, in 2005, when everyone's
really jacked up about global
warming, there was these 26
hurricanes at the US. And so
everybody's thinking, you know,
they're all the whole climate
change and all this other folks
run for the hills run for the
hills. So they So Colorado State
there, they were one of these,
you know, these, all these great
meteorologist area, you know,
arenas or I don't know what they
are, but these schools that have
a lot of meteorologists in them
and they're big shots,
meteorologists out of state
predicted 17 We're gonna hit
this year, it's gonna be
horrible, and it's getting worse
and worse and worse because of
global warming. One Yeah, I
Adam Curry: was gonna say, I
can't think of more than one,
John C Dvorak: no one hit the
state. So there's a few that
hit, you know, Central America,
but even then it wasn't that
many. So it was a dud. So, so
I'm thinking that these, you
know, climatologists and all
these meteorologists, these guys
don't know anything. And
Adam Curry: we're still waiting
for the huge superstorm that is
supposed to hit the west coast
of continental continental
Europe and the east coast of the
UK
John C Dvorak: science. Yeah.
Well, a lot of people think it's
just a scam. I mean, there's
like, I think there is a climate
change happening. You can tell
it. I mean, you've talked to
winemakers anywhere in the
world. I'll tell you this, those
things have changed. But it's
improved things for the most
part of wine. It's the go Yeah,
especially the German wines,
man. Come on, really. Notice all
German wines, which was always
like, you know, they've always
made good, sweet, white wines
that Reds have never been any
good. But now but and even this
week, whites are always kind of,
you know, hit and miss. But in
the last nonetheless, almost up
to the last 10 years, they're
making tremendous red wines,
which is really weird. Nobody
even believes it until it's
proven to them. And they're
making this just one great
vintage after another of some of
these term, just terrific white
wines that are just and they're
well priced and descend in this
kind of an overlooked area
because if people don't
understand them, they keep
changing their labeling laws.
And just stunned stunned and I
think this the same thing is
going to happen to Nora again,
Washington, especially Oregon
pinos and maybe burgundy it
looks like burgundy is having a
string of really great ended,
which is an area that make Pinot
Noir. And it's always under ripe
and there's crappie, for the
most part, if they're really
good ones, and are these
Adam Curry: are these young
vintages that you're talking
about that are really good are
the older vintages?
John C Dvorak: No, no, that
starting around in Burgundy, it
started at around I'm about 99,
something like that maybe nice
95. And I think it's somewhere
somewhere around the mid 90s. Or
but but by the beginning of the
turn of the century, it was
almost like they're hitting
every year as a great year. 2005
being the most recent Super
year, in Burgundy, Bordeaux and
everyplace else. It's just you
know, you just drink these
wines. When you get a hold of
one, even though they're not
ready to drink yet. And you go
holy crap. I haven't tasted
anything like this forever.
Adam Curry: Well, next time.
Next time in town. We'll have to
have one on you have not
introduced me to a good German
wine.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a
good idea. Yeah, no, I did
promise finding a good German
wine in a restaurant in San
Francisco is probably a little
difficult. Although I think
there's probably a few places
that know what they're doing.
Adam Curry: So are we gonna
we're gonna have time to have
dinner next week before I head
back.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Wednesday
would be Wednesday. Shut up
already. Science. Yeah,
Adam Curry: there's this the
wind change from the north. And
there's you can you can even
track it on Google Earth, I have
the cloud layer, which is
fantastic to look at. It's
coming down directly from the
north from Scandinavia. And it's
like a low pressure system just
by me it dropped about an hour
ago, the temperature went from
15 degrees Celsius to about
eight and, and hail started
forming. And so it should be
snowing within the next five
hours or so.
John C Dvorak: Oh, nice.
Adam Curry: That's crazy. Nice.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
understand it's largely due to
the fact that Al Gore came out
of his hole and saw his own
shadow.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
man, when the we've had weather,
I mean, global warming. How can
you buy it? When does it start?
You know, supposed to be
happening now. It's it's only
gotten cold, April.
John C Dvorak: Climate change
now go really global warming,
depending on who you talk to. So
I just, you know, there was a
report that was reported. I
think Nature magazine, some guy
wrote an editorial saying that
they did the GRI data, they keep
redoing the calculations issue.
There's no way no matter what we
do, we can't stop the climate so
much as they say. It's just a
cycle.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it goes up it
goes down. It's the earth is
built. Well, let's not even get
into this because I don't want
to deal with the email. There's
some some things we say man on
the show that just generates so
much email. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look
it up. It's science that hey,
I'm making fish in my
John C Dvorak: pond. Why would
we. But I'm watching. I started
off the beginning of the week
with watching Bill Maher. And
they're going on in it and then
all out of the blue. There's
talking about some green thing
and all the blue out of the blue
Bill Margot's. When there's one
other thing we need to talk
about, which is meat. People eat
too much meat and meat uses so
much grain and all the grain and
he just straight doesn't talk
about grass fed which is really
the trend in beef, you know
today is people want don't want
grain fed beef, they want grass
fed when most of these that
means a cow can graze on a you
know, otherwise useless field.
And you know, actually, it's
part of a cycle. It's very
important for them to exist
there. The Buffalo used to do
that, like the Netherlands has.
You eat grass? And you know, so
where's the grain thing coming
in, but it's part of the
propaganda. So Mark goes off the
deep end, like some vegetarian
nut ball, about all how they how
this is the worst thing in the
world. So meanwhile, a couple of
days later, I'm watching a green
report on on one of our local
stations, channel 11 in San
Francisco Bay Area, and they
have this green unit report and
and they have special logos and
some screwball correspondents
that look like a bunch of green
report to Green report. Sorry,
you know, so they bring on these
kinds of, you know, looks like
vegetarian vegans. And so a
woman comes on and she goes and
then the real problem is meat.
And she brings up the meat thing
again, she does that and then
you hurt them. No, wasn't
affected. They eat a bunch of
grain, but that there, this,
this is the this one here which
is always like an eye roller.
This because they fart, and they
give off all this methane and
this the methane from the cows
that are causing, it's causing
global warming. And it's like,
Yeah, I've heard that. I've
heard this every time I hear
this. What are you? criminally
insane? Even bringing this up?
Throw
Adam Curry: that person in jail?
Not Wesley Snipes, are you nuts?
So
John C Dvorak: anyway, and but
this is all part of this Green
Week. And it's just like, this
seems to be some vegetarian
undercurrent, you know, with the
whole thing. And it's just makes
you sick to watch it because
it's like, obvious propaganda.
And the news reporters say
nothing about especially this
idiotic methane thing from the
cows. They say no, by the way,
if they stop feeding him grain,
they probably have less farting,
just grass fed, but that's
beside the point. But anyway,
there's nobody brings anything
in nobody questions, any of
this. They just pair it,
whatever. It's just shows up
from whoever's behind the whole
thing. We went, I'm suspicious
of that. And I find the whole
thing just incredibly annoying.
It is. And I think myself clear.
I'm Yeah,
Adam Curry: I love it when you
get pissed off? Well, science is
true. Okay, then let me start
right off the bat with a trend,
which is huge protests in Europe
over the price of gasoline, and
in particular Diesel. Have you
followed this at all?
John C Dvorak: Heard about, but
the diesel thing has fascinated
me because even at the even
here, it started about a year
ago, I noticed this. And I used
to work as a petroleum chemist.
So you have to, you know,
Adam Curry: you have to
understand these things. Well, I
John C Dvorak: mean, I kind of
get part of it. But this,
there's a baffling aspect to it.
Because this is not a normal
situation. But about a year ago,
the price of diesel started
sneaking up and it became the
same price as premium right?
Gasoline
Adam Curry: i Well, I've made a
study. And I know why, at least
in Europe, I know why it's
happening. All right, go. So
first of all, you have a regular
increase just in the in the raw
materials. So the price of a
barrel of oil is going up. But
what all these governments have
done. And there was a big
protest in the UK two days ago,
the French fishermen are
protesting. They're cutting off
the Atlantic or whatever the
hell is that all these
governments have put extra tax
co2 emission tax on diesel. And,
and it's an extra tax because
and of course, I don't think
this is true, because they say
well, diesel engines, you know,
they spew out much more co2,
which of course, is related
directly back to this global
warming meme that is out there.
And I think that I don't know if
that's the same in the States.
But in Europe, that's exactly
what's happened. And that's why
their price has been driven up
so far.
John C Dvorak: I don't know of
any increased tax on diesel fuel
in the US, the prices snuck up
to the price of premium. And
then it started creeping above
it. And now it's like 10, or 20
cents higher than premium
gasoline. And it makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever
in insofar as the carbon
footprint of diesel,
Adam Curry: which of course, is
probably not true. I mean, I
think
John C Dvorak: a lot of
particulates from diesel fuel
more than anything, but it tends
to be I don't see that as just
producing more co2 to be I mean,
just I don't see it. I, I don't
know I have to I'm gonna have to
do a little reading and see what
the heck's going on because it
doesn't make any sense. Well,
Adam Curry: what is happening is
it's making everyone's
livelihood kind of hard. Because
you know, when you get an
increase like that, and you're
in your basic you know, the
basics of your business if
you're if you're a trucker or if
you if you need diesel for any
other reason, then you know,
that's that's a real big problem
that's straight to your bottom
line.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
passed often to customers and so
it's a really issue. I think the
only people that benefit from
this and I'm starting to notice
this now. And this is kind of
weird to there may be some
connection. I saw an ad the
other day yesterday as a matter
of fact for for the railroads.
They've been advertising on the
radio for a while but now I'm
seeing TV ads bragging about how
much you know they can carry
like tons of stuff for a nickel
you know and this like I'm
seeing why I've never seen I
have never seen in my life that
I can think of ads for railway
transportation for you know, for
products that just watching this
going, huh? Yeah,
Adam Curry: in fact, if anything
has only been commercials for
for transport of people.
John C Dvorak: Well, here
actually, you don't see that
even that is I guess there's
some Amtrak occasional Amtrak
commercials but no, this was
transporting cars in particular,
but you could tell it what they
were getting at. They were
talking about Tom, what is it
cost per mile to move a ton, and
it's like a lot cheaper than it
is with a truck. So I don't know
there's something screwy going
on. I'm sure it will come out
eventually. That's
Unknown: science. And science is
one cold hearted bitch with a 14
inch strap on. This is a
John C Dvorak: great thing about
actually modern media and
blogging and and modern
magazines that use calm It's
because you, you can roll out
like the most scurrilous piece
of information that you know is
true. I mean, global warming
falls into this category that
michael craig, by the way, so,
you know, Michael Creighton came
out it you know, and he's I saw
his last interview with Charlie
Rose, I have a copy, I should
give it like to slow his
interviews. And he says he knew
he was gonna get slammed for
this. But he says he thinks as
far as he concerns a crock of
crap. But you know, you could
have evidence that it's a crock
of crap, but because people have
subscribed, they have subscribed
their personality. In other
words, it's almost like, you
know, when I've always felt this
way with, you know, this Mac
versus PC thing that happened
where it began in 1984. And, and
really never ended. And you
criticize a Macintosh. And the
person who has subscribed to the
Macintosh by buying one and
thinking is really good. They
think you're criticizing them.
Yep. they've internalized people
have internalized outside
information. And and this is a
form of materialism that is very
destructive to one's
personality. And this type of
materialism can take the form of
being materialistic about
information. So you are totally
you've bought in to something to
such an extreme that if anybody
says it might, you might be that
the information might be
invalid, you defend the
information, even if it isn't
valid, because you are 100% in
this is not healthy. Science.
Adam Curry: So the handyman he's
been with this house for many,
many years, which is good, you
know, because it's his house.
Exactly. And he and he did the
the most recent remodeling with
all the new plumbing and
everything. So now, he knows how
everything works. He's got the,
you know, all the bugs, he knows
where it is. So that's great.
And he says something to me that
I was like, really. And here it
is on page to the inside way at
the bottom and find small tiny
print of the Financial Times.
The United Kingdom has
experienced its coldest start to
winter in more than 30 years.
Experts said yesterday. There
you go my friend, global global
warming at its finest. Actually,
John C Dvorak: I'm supposed to
be up in Washington today. But
I'm not because the the coldest
front ever to hit the state. I
know. I predicted to be the
coldest days ever in Washington
State or today. And
Adam Curry: there's an ice storm
on the East Coast. That's global
warming for you. We're all going
to die.
John C Dvorak: And it's snowing
in Houston. It was snowing in
New Orleans. So
Adam Curry: of course, that's
where they spun it into into
climate change. But you know
that, but you know, it's very
important and very relevant to
this very moment, Thursday and
Friday, in Europe. The ministers
all got together and they had
their big powwow. And, you know,
they've essentially built up the
the next phase of regulation
that will have around finance
and environment. They are now
linked with these carbon
credits. Yep. Nice. I told you
it was common. So I know you and
this carbon credits. Everything
is going to be linked to carbon
credit. I'm
John C Dvorak: told Yeah.
Because carbon credits are a
guilt free version of tax. Yeah,
exactly. And you're paying taxes
and you're supposed to feel good
about it. Well
Adam Curry: know what the
analogy is paying paying a thin
person monies to you don't have
to go on a diet. It's stupid.
Because there's all that anyone
ever talks about is is you know,
the credits, you buy the
credits, you buy the credits,
but it doesn't actually reduce
anything because somewhere
someone has to produce less
carbon emissions to fulfill the
credit that you've purchased.
Everyone's just buying the
credits. That's what it's all
about. And they've got it all
tricked out. Man. You Eastern.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, can we're
not doing this? How can we don't
have some sort of a deal with
the US? No, you and me a carbon
Adam Curry: deal?
John C Dvorak: Why aren't we
selling credits? I
Adam Curry: mean, I'm telling
you, this is total, we should
totally be doing this. Because
these credit these carbon credit
exchanges are popping up
everywhere. Like, it reminds me
a lot in the mid 90s of we at
the time we had made Easton Mae
West a member everyone was I
built a knock, I built a knock
in Amsterdam for Christ's sake,
it was the thing to do to have
an exchange of bandwidth. This
is the next the next thing you
got to have an exchange of
carbon credits. We can run it on
an Excel spreadsheet. Google on
a Google spreadsheet, something
like that.
John C Dvorak: And what kills me
is I was on a website the other
day says would you like to, to
buy carbon credits to visit this
site or something?
Adam Curry: So So while this is
taking place, this sort of just
took place this two day meeting,
where they decide okay, they're
gonna put 200 billion euros into
the European economy, even
though that's only half of what
Germany has to put in and is
failing with in its own country
by itself. But then they have
all these carbon credits, which
is essentially about a 30
billion euro tax which is going
to be levied on on corporations
new tax. And there are over 600
scientists who are preparing now
to sue Al Gore over and the IPCC
over there, bogus climate change
global warming report, which of
course, almost gets zero press
anywhere, but 600 PhDs, dude, I
mean, this is this is serious
business.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
you know what the reason is, is
because I think they have been
making this claim. And you and I
run into it all the time and
people that ever do when we
talked about on the show
somebody right away, you don't
know, the IPCC said this and
that, and why are you even
making these assertions? Yeah.
And I think a lot of people, a
lot of scientists,
Adam Curry: are you telling me
that people in our artists
actually use the word
assertions?
John C Dvorak: Well, that those
particular people
Adam Curry: just want to make
sure.
John C Dvorak: I very rarely use
the word.
Adam Curry: I like it, though.
We should use that more often,
John C Dvorak: as we should
anyway. So. So I think there's a
lot of people out there who are,
you know, probably, you know,
the the climatologist, or
they're experts in some way,
shape, or form. And they have
been put into the same sack
because of this notion that
everybody agrees. Everybody
agrees,
Adam Curry: the discussion is
over, we have consensus.
Everybody's
John C Dvorak: more than
consensus, everybody, everybody,
nobody disagrees with this. Not
one single person. So you're a
PhD, who maybe has some thoughts
on it, and you have some other
kinds of data. And your friends
come up to you at the cocktail
party. And they go on about
putting you pigeon holing you
with this, but it's even
Adam Curry: worse. It's even
worse. If you do that as a PhD
or researcher, your research
funding gets pulled. That's why
people are so quiet about it,
because they're afraid that
their money is going to go away.
John C Dvorak: But the lawsuits
law diamond, I think the more
people should join the lawsuit,
there's I'm sure there's more
than 600 debt are irked about
this.
Adam Curry: In fact, there's
about 30,000, I believe, but
that's not all PhDs. These are
just the PhDs, the business and
Media Institute. I've no idea
who they are. But this is a
story I just got, oh,
John C Dvorak: we'll get to know
who they are. They're a bunch of
a right wing nuts that don't
believe in any of this stuff.
Okay, is that true? No, no, no,
I'm just gonna.
Adam Curry: Well, they have
data, they have data, so I'm
just going to presume the data
is right for the sake of
argument, the business and Media
Institute analyzed 205 network
news stories about global
warming or climate change.
Between July 1 2007 and December
31 2007. They found that only
20% of the stories even
mentioned there were any
alternative opinions to the so
called consensus on the issues.
And this just goes on and on and
on. About how you know, it's
pretty much the media just
jumped on and said, Okay, we're
all gonna die. Hey, roll some of
those polar bear footage. Come
on. Let's head out. That's good
shit.
John C Dvorak: I should bleeds
it leads. Exactly.
Adam Curry: So CBS was the
worst. Has 151 People used by
the network to promote global
warming, hysteria. And 28 people
who even questioned it somewhat.
John C Dvorak: So watch
Adam Curry: that it's not a
question
John C Dvorak: Did someone well,
you know, it's bullshit. Yeah.
And
Adam Curry: it's amazing what's
taking place. Our financial
system is going to be based on
this lie. And granted Hey, I'm
all for saving the Earth. I'm
all for less pollution. No doubt
about it.
John C Dvorak: About China
they're polluting California
from a distance. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Now, there's plenty
we can do and should be doing
but this whole idea of buying
credits so that you can continue
to pollute that somewhere
someone down the line like my
children's children's children
will then apparently have to
produce less they're talking
about plants a tree did a talk
talking about a 20% reduction
promised by all all of the EU in
carbon emissions 20% Nice,
Unknown: good else groom tell
your fake internet girlfriend,
you're gonna be AFK for about 10
minutes. Because it's
motherfucking Science Time.
Adam Curry: You blog the Gideon
Rachman story in the Financial
Times. He's a columnist and he
said he was talking about you
know the possibility of you know
tongue in cheek article about
the New World Order, etc.
Alright, that guy? Yeah, that
guy. There's a follow up to
that. I was wondering like your
power.
John C Dvorak: Don't you know
him? No, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: You've got to read
his follow up. that he posted on
his blog, I'll just I'll just
read you the conclusion. Because
he knew what happened is he says
I couldn't believe the amount of
email that he got. From, you
know, from from out there. He
says, you know, hundreds of
pieces of email, here's his
conclusions. There's an
undeniable amount of anger and
hatred out there directed
everything from the United
Nation to Knight United Nations
to big business to Barack Obama.
These people can't read can
read, but they cannot think he
says, so. He's not my buddy,
dude. It gets worse. The End of
Days crowd is very strong. I
would say that about a third of
the emails I got referred me to
the book of Revelation, in which
apparently all it is all
foretold. Three, there's a lot
of people who believe not only
that global warming is a hoax,
but that it is actually a
conspiracy. The fact that the
most influential reports on
climate change had been produced
by an intergovernmental panel,
the IPCC, sponsored by the UN
fuels this theory. The idea is
that the UN is perpetuating a
climate change hoax to provide
an excuse to impose a world
government on America. I am a
part of it, apparently, he says,
totally, boldly. Anyway, so he
winds up he does have a funny
line at the end here, something
positive has come out of this
experience. If the newspaper
industry really goes down the
pan, I now have a business plan.
I will claim to be a former
member of the Bilderberg
Illuminati Council on Foreign
Relations, un Zionist
establishment and write a book
revealing the inside story of a
plot to form a world government,
it will sell millions in
Unknown: the face of
overwhelming odds, I'm left with
only one option. I'm gonna have
to science the shit out of this.
John C Dvorak: Obama picks
climate specialist as science
advisor. Don't
Adam Curry: even get me started
on that one. Yeah, I think so. I
haven't been able to find the
link. But somewhere I heard
somewhere I read someone that
said, Al Gore said these colder
periods are entirely indicative
of global warming.
John C Dvorak: I know I get it
every time we we bring this up
on the show quite a bit. I love
doing it. We just get an email
from somebody saying it's
natural to be colder during
global warming. You know, it's
yeah, of course it is. Makes
nothing but sense.
Adam Curry: It's natural for it
to be colder during global
warming. Yes, I understand. I
totally get it. So. So that's
that is quite interesting.
John C Dvorak: I think it was
said to be the note, he said
also says that he says global
warming climate change, they're
trying to change the term
themselves, is going to result
in really weird erratic weather.
And I'm thinking because I don't
know I mean, if you start
reading the I, because I did
this as a project, once I read
all in New York Times newspapers
from about 1858 to about 1868.
How
Adam Curry: long did that take?
You?
John C Dvorak: Took a long time,
it took a number of months. And
I was collecting stories may or
may not have been the period
might have been from 18 6080 to
78. But it was it was during the
around the Civil War. And and
I'm not sure I think yeah, I
think it was I think the times
was in business. And I think it
was at the time I was reading.
And it was I was looking at all
the articles
Adam Curry: that you read the
originals, of course, when they
came out in 1886. So of course,
but
John C Dvorak: my mom threw them
away. So anyway. So I'm reading
this and they were talking about
erratic weather. I mean, if you
start reading the history of
weather in the United States,
it's been erratic since day one,
you know, storms of frogs, you
know, it'd be something happened
in North Dakota, and it's just
like rain frogs, you know, all
over the place. And, you know, I
guess there were frogs, I knew
people who had this immunity
couldn't get outside without
stepping out a bunch of frogs
that were raining down for some
unknown reason. Nobody even knew
where the frogs came from. And I
mean, I remember that one
distinctly going, which is a
real head shaker. And there's
all kinds of, you know, weird to
have in the Mormon legend about
the those locusts if you've ever
seen one of those bugs that the
big ones monsters scare size of
a rat. Yeah, they're scary. And
apparently they came in, you
know, in some weather situation,
and they just gobbled up the
state of Utah, which is still a
desert. And, I mean, this is
nothing new. This erratic
weather we've had the biggest
hurricanes we've had in the
past. And there's a hurricane
that hit Connecticut some, you
know, around the turn of the
century or sometime in the, you
know, I think it was like, I
can't remember the date, but it
was 100 years ago. And so this
is bull. I mean, you know,
there's right now it's snowing
in
Adam Curry: Vegas. In Vegas.
It's snowing. It's snowing in
Vegas.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
snowing in Vegas. Just weather's
what we have science. So
Adam Curry: weather wise, we are
freezing our tits off here in
the United Kingdom.
John C Dvorak: In cooking here
in Northern California, God in
the Netherlands.
Adam Curry: They're now they do
this whenever it really, really
gets cold and I haven't heard
this chatter for at least a
decade. But then they start
threatening with cranking up the
11 city natural ice canal race,
which is famous famous in the
Netherlands, where, you know,
it's all done a naturalized on
canals, under and around bridges
and it's 11 cities, it's
hundreds of kilometers, you
know, people lose their, their
toes, their fingers, their
lives, but it's, it's a huge,
huge cultural deal. And I hope
it happens again, but just goes
to show that there's some funky
going on.
John C Dvorak: I know they do
that in Ottawa city. Because
they don't, you know, it's not
as always freezing. But
Adam Curry: this is like Han
This is the legend of Hans
Brinker in the silver skates
right this is what that is
about. This is that story.
John C Dvorak: So it freezes
that bad that that that those
all those canals get frozen
over? Well, it hasn't. It
Adam Curry: was only Well, you
know, it was only one freezing
over an hour or No, no, no, it's
it's the freezing is really
started now. So now everyone's
talking about cranking up the
competition. But the last time
you know, it had been a while
until of course the Al Gore
proclaimed global warming that's
when you know, luckily we have
the the 11th city you can always
come back
John C Dvorak: to I'm reminded
of the I've always said to
people, you know, the day that
the term paperless office was
coined. If you'd invested in
paper mills, right, then you'd
been make a fortune, you would
have made a fortune.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, my
dad always says the paperless
office is as likely as the
paperless toilet science, so
much mainstream media attention
being paid to stuff like this
stupid Spaghetti Monster hitting
the wind turbine and no, we've
got to space sounds from outer
space. And Obama wants to
accelerate and put us on the
moon like Didn't we already see
that movie before? But anyway,
we're gonna get on the moon. I'm
thinking that
John C Dvorak: Obama is a
fractal of Kennedy. Right?
Adam Curry: Well, he will.
here's the here's the scenario.
The scenario is, you know, of
course, there's more and more
descent coming from amongst the
slaves saying wait a minute
global warming. Yeah, okay, we
got to protect Earth but hold on
a second. What are all these
taxes for this unproven theory
of yours? And what they're going
to do next is they're going to
have space aliens communicate to
us and tell us that we're
killing our world and carbon
credits are good for us
something like that is in the
works.
John C Dvorak: I like it. Yeah,
I
Adam Curry: mean, I gonna be
John C Dvorak: a hard one to
pull off. Are you kidding me? If
any amania equity would think
that that could work? Okay, I am
in outer space and we must tell
you Earth means science. The
news let me get to the story
because breaking as we speak
those who come in one after
another Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. What breaking
Adam Curry: news this is no
agenda. We have breaking news.
John Cena with Jim Brown.
John C Dvorak: Breaking breaking
news in this case is the no pun
intended because we're talking
about cow flatulence again. And
sheep belching so there's a
breaking aspect to it. Okay, hit
apparently according to all
these articles that just showed
up. In fact, in today's Wall
Street Journal, it turns out
that sheep belching may account
for 12% of manmade global
warming.
Adam Curry: Okay, this isn't the
Wall Street Journal you say?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: today's Wall
Street Journal big story on
sheep belching because the sheep
apparently belch methane. And
then if I was looking this up a
little bit, and it looked at
according to one story 12% of
Australian greenhouse gases come
from livestock flatulence again,
another breaking story me was
I'm looking at all these
different these stories and I
write in you if you start
scratching the surface of global
warming or as they now call it
climate change because you know,
they did the other word is was
getting ready wasn't
Adam Curry: it wasn't working
anymore. It
John C Dvorak: wasn't working.
But I like it. I still like it
global warming, it sounds
better. So if you scratch the
surface of it, you keep coming
up with the same thing. Vegans
with an agenda and vegetarians
is though somebody came up with
this neat idea some years ago
that if you blame, you know, if
you get on this global warming
kick, then you can attack the
livestock because at some point,
you know, because of their
belching and farting, there's
you could attribute global
warming to them. And so I run
into the newspaper in Ontario
called the standard St.
Catharines. The town St.
Catharines standard and I think
they headline kind of like says
it all and it's about global
warming, but the headline is, we
need to solve the now quote
marks meet problem Ah,
Adam Curry: yes, I have a meet
problem that I need solving to
and you can email me And this is
unbelievable. But it makes so
much sense. Because, you know,
we know that this satellite
failed to separate from the
payload from the cone. How
ironic. Yeah, this was the big
fail. This was the satellite
that was actually going to
measure the sheep belching and
cow flatulence is a part of
manmade climate change from
space. You know, it's out of
control.
John C Dvorak: And wonder what
was going on during the era
where the entire western plains
are covered with millions and
millions and millions of bison?
Adam Curry: Well, they surely
you know that bison, they must
already know they don't fart
man. Now, by the way, I have
done a quite a bit of sheep
sharing in my day, when I was
much younger, we lived just
south of Amsterdam, and a small
farming village. And it was a
lot of fun, really, you know,
the old fashioned way? With
shears. And I have held many
sheep between my legs. There's a
great drop for you. I've held
many sheep between my legs, but
I've never heard one belch ever.
Have you? Well, no,
John C Dvorak: actually, we have
a sheep.
Adam Curry: And does he belt?
John C Dvorak: I have never
noticed it. Maybe when they go
by? That's actually a belt?
Adam Curry: Well, I think I can
tie a couple things
John C Dvorak: together. Sounds
like a belt,
Adam Curry: the meat problem. I
like that, that you've latched
on to that. Cuz I've it hit me
earlier this week. That the
smart grid. It has it of course
it has to do with energy power.
But it has to do with a lot
more. And I started looking into
it into the smart grid. Now a
lot of the money for the smart
grid will be dished out by an
outfit call. I'm sure you've
heard of them the western area
Power Administration.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard of
them? No, actually, I haven't
heard of them. Okay,
Adam Curry: wow. Well, the
Western Power a western area
Power Administration. I'll read
I'm just reading from their
website wapa.gov part of the
government the part of the
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of
2009, which, of course is the
the big stimulus package. It
grants the western area Power
Administration, the authority to
borrow up to 3.2 5 billion from
the US Treasury has a whole
bunch of basically, they hand
out the grants. And so as I'm
looking through, you know, just
going down as deep as I can
write
John C Dvorak: any grants we can
get?
Adam Curry: Well, interesting.
So they they're handing out a
lot of money to GE and IBM.
These are the two corporations
who are going to receive most of
this Smart Grid money. And IBM
writes about Well, here's a
little piece from IBM as it as
it pertains to their grant. The
world is becoming instrumented
by 2010, there will be a billion
trends, transistors per human,
each one costing one
10,000,000th of ascent. The
world is becoming interconnected
with a trillion network things
cars, roadways, pipelines,
appliances, pharmaceuticals, and
even livestock. The amount of
information created by those
interactions grows
exponentially. And as you look
through it, a part of this smart
grid will be tracking livestock.
Ah, so of course, how do you
track lives and also livestock
feed, I'm sure it's going to be
a part of it. So when you track
livestock is very simple because
even my pets are chipped. They
all have a little chip inserted,
and it's an RFID RFID chip, and
they can they can track each
individual piece of meat while a
part of the meat problem. The
science says Did you know that
Gordon Brown was in Washington
did any of that reach you amidst
all of this proposition eight
and Britney Spears news?
John C Dvorak: We all we know is
that apparently Gordon Brown was
supposed to meet with Obama and
Obama says it's snowing so they
call the snow day.
Adam Curry: app really? Oh man,
John C Dvorak: and they never
had the meeting as well. I mean,
that's the last I heard maybe
they had the meeting sense.
Well, this.
Adam Curry: There were a couple
of snow days being called Nancy
Pelosi was supposed to speak at
the Al Gore Tony Blair was there
at the Global Warming
conference. Of course, she got
snowed out couldn't couldn't
land. The Global Warming
conference.
John C Dvorak: Global warming,
no doubt.
Unknown: And do you have any
idea who this man is? Yes, we
have. It appears their agenda is
political. I don't care what
their agenda is. This is
science. I won't be scared into
not doing my research.
Adam Curry: This man is not your
normal radical Prince Charles
who just want I thought the guy
was going to be Okay. From AP,
Britain's Prince Charles warned
on Thursday mankind has 100
months or less to save the
planet from a climate cause
disaster.
John C Dvorak: Didn't they say
this? Like a couple of years
ago?
Adam Curry: 100 months or less?
John C Dvorak: Here's what
bothers me. We had a story that
we have one, we have a climate
change junkie on the blog. He's
always every time you post any
skepticism, he posts something
else. It's says we're all
doomed. But the one that gets me
is the more recent mention of
this guy, climate change expert
Nicholas Stern, who's told 2000
climate scientists meeting in
Copenhagen that they failed to
clearly tell humanity what it
faces if global temperatures
reached the upper range of
forecasts made by the IPCC,
which is what we have united we
started all this Yeah, united in
are in the United Nations in our
government Panel for Climate
Change and destroying all
Western economies as should be
the real title. He says there's
been a lot of scientific
evidence he goes on and on, he
says, new findings show that
these projections were vastly
understated. And everyone who is
worse than we thought, what am I
thinking when I read this stuff?
It? Can't you get this right. I
mean, it's like worse than
retires better than retires
worse than we thought. Where are
the numbers are so solid? Why do
they keep upgrading and changing
them and in flux? I mean, in
other words, if we're so
solidly, you know, we have
strong evidence that's
irrefutable. And everyone
agrees. Well, did everyone agree
that it just changed? I can't
Adam Curry: believe that Prince
Charles is not on the front page
of every single newspaper with
this. Listen to what he's
saying. The best projections
tell us that we have less than
100 months to alter our behavior
before we risk catastrophic
climate change and the
unimaginable horrors that this
would bring. What are those
horrors you asked John? Any
difficulties which the world
faces today will be nothing
compared to the full effects
which global warming will have
on the worldwide economy. He
said, it will result in vast
movements of people escaping
either flooding or droughts,
droughts, in uncertain
production of foods and lack of
water and of course, increasing
social instability and potential
conflict. It will affect the
well being of every man, woman
and child on our planet. What's
happening is the science is
screaming at us. And the papers
here again, the George monad
Monbiot
John C Dvorak: from The
Guardian, guys, a communist, he
wrote
Adam Curry: a book, someone sent
me a link to his book on Amazon,
do you are you familiar with his
book? No. manifesto of a new for
a new world order. I swear to
God, it's a big red book
manifesto for a new world order.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: You know, I read
that guy, and I just makes it's
one of the few writers I don't
remember that much. But I run
into his stuff. Because he, you
know, he's in The Guardian, you
know, which is a red paper. And
so I'm reading this stuff, and I
look, it's just it's so I can
see where some people maybe
don't like my commentary about
the Macintosh. Because you
actually started your blood
starts to boil about halfway
through, it mainly begun his
case because I know how to write
propaganda. And I can see him
using this technique. It's just
befuddled the poor reader
Adam Curry: article from The
Telegraph who are on to this.
What's worrying the globalists
are all the signs that the
world's politicians coverage on
Copenhagen in December to
discuss the successor to the
Kyoto Protocol under the
guidance of the UN, IPCC, the
Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change, there'll be so
much disagreement, that they
won't be able to get more
drastic measures to cut carbon
emissions. So the name of the
game last week, according to
this article, as we see from a
sample of quotations was to win
headlines by claiming everything
is far worse than previously
suppose, sea level rises by 2100
could be much greater than the
59 centimeters predicted by the
last IPCC report, global warming
could kill off 85% of the Amazon
rainforest much more than
previously predicted, the ice
caps in Greenland and Antarctica
are melting much faster than
predicted, the number of people
dying from heat could be twice
as many as predicted. This is
out of control. So
John C Dvorak: what they've
actually saying here as again,
which I brought up in the last
show, is that they don't know
what they're talking about. No,
they they're all the predictions
are wrong. Why aren't they wrong
again? I don't know what the
hell they're doing. Read
Adam Curry: this article from
The Telegraph. It's in the show
notes. It will open up your
eyes. There was a there was a
whole bunch of dignitaries were
in New York at a climate
conference, including the
current president of the EU, the
crazy Czech guy who says global
warming is a hoax. And no one
reported on us No, no one not a
John C Dvorak: single report.
This is why the newspapers are
folding. Yeah, because I mean
because they suck. They why
don't we get you know, I mean
you get sick everything is like
directed. It's like there's
somebody orchestrating
everything and the newspapers
are part of the orchestration.
So we don't get a broad spectrum
of opinion. It's all targeted.
You know, everything has got to
be this way. It's got to be that
was all knee jerk. It's
unbelievable to me. And then
these guys have moaning and
groaning about losing their
jobs. Yeah, well, how about how
about you just take it in and
we're talking about something
Adam Curry: else I'm waiting for
and it is possibly could happen.
I'm waiting for the first
bailout of a newspaper. You
watch that's how crazy this
world has become. The government
will bail out even though that
would be unconstitutional.
John C Dvorak: It's gonna have
would be unconstitutional. I'm
sorry. Yeah, it has to be
unconstitutional.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Like like the
Constitution means anything
these
John C Dvorak: they bail out the
Catholic Church.
Adam Curry: Still no. No extra
reporting on Baxter
International.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. There
we go. There's another thing.
Where's these are these stories?
I think there was one story and
MSNBC had. Yeah, somebody sent
us the link or you sent it to
me? Yeah. The
Adam Curry: vaccine
International, which purposely
mixed up flu vaccination with
bird flu virus and they have now
admitted it was a live virus.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they had
mixed up the regular flu vaccine
vaccine with a live bird flu
virus. And coincidentally, this
is the only company that has a
vaccine for bird flu. No, no,
Adam Curry: it's not the only
company. I've got
John C Dvorak: one of the
companies that has a stockpile
of bird flu deals in place
billions of dollars. First,
you've got to infect the public.
Yeah, otherwise
Adam Curry: you can't sell it.
John C Dvorak: Because bird flu
doesn't seem to be catching on.
Adam Curry: No, it's the meme is
not traveling fast enough yet.
Powered by science. We didn't
talk about this on the last
show, although it was Oh current
at the moment. Lawmakers started
earlier this week. That would be
you know, like people in
Congress and people who you
supposedly elected and are
supposedly doing shit for you.
They're starting to have
hearings about the energy and
global warming bill that would
of course revolutionize the way
we produce and use energy and
how we're taxed for it. And the
last time we had this type of
bill was acid rain I guess was
the scam at the time. And some
actually the smog we got rid of
a lot of the smog which is why
people are buying into this
crap. So the laws are coming and
that they will be taxable and
you'll be paying taxes on
anything any use of carbon that
what a scam make the pig with
genetically modified pigness and
then charge people for the pig
farts I mean, these guys got it
so locked down
John C Dvorak: whatever happened
to acid rain, acid
Adam Curry: rain, acid rain
wasn't it didn't you know it was
a meme and it went away and
John C Dvorak: I remember that
acid rain me because I remember
one of the 60 minutes shows
they're saying all the statues
of Italy are all dissolving
Adam Curry: was FoxNews around
them? I didn't know that.
John C Dvorak: Like 60 minutes
it was like some report of acid
rains dissolving all the statues
of Europe and you just imagining
these things dissolving and then
they find some old statue that
was all screwed up look and say
look what happened
Adam Curry: yeah, oh, you had
the great ice age that was
coming we had all of that. Oh
and
John C Dvorak: coincidental
thing that's good because that's
interesting to me. That the that
is the climatologist which is a
fairly new discipline once they
got hold of this global warming
thing they started getting money
they weren't they had just have
in their grasp there's not gonna
let this baby go like
Adam Curry: hundreds of millions
if not billions of dollars in
research research grants and all
kinds of dough of course yeah,
no warming No, you should be on
that shit. Absolutely no,
John C Dvorak: I don't
understand why we're not we
should time promoters of this
crap just to get as much money
as we can
Adam Curry: we're doing it so
wrong. We should be like Jackie
Chan do like Jackie does man.
Like sign out of the sell out
man just sell the heck out.
John C Dvorak: Darn. So we can't
live with ourselves ladies and
gentlemen. That's why we don't
do it.
Adam Curry: There's a great
story on AP, which of course,
we'll get it said the guy has a
book coming out next week. He's
the former Food and Drug
Administration chief and command
and I'm paraphrasing this
article now. But here's here's a
direct quote from him I guess in
the book The food industry has
worked out what works. They know
what drives people to keep on
eating. In the next great public
health campaign of changing how
we view food and the food
industry, it has to be a part of
it. Basically, what he's saying
in this book, is how the food
industry has figured out through
neuroscience, that the
combination of fat and sugar
sparks up dopamine in your in
your old noggin there. That's
your your little pleasure spot.
They're the same that gets hit
by alcohol and other fine, fine
products available in the wild.
And that essentially what this
former FDA chief is saying is
you're hooked on crap and we
know it.
Unknown: That's science. And
science is one cold hearted
bitch with a 14 inch strap on.
John C Dvorak: Here we go hydro
power disaster for global
warming. large dams have
dramatic consequences.
Ecosystems are destroyed and
numerous people are made
homeless, often without adequate
resettlement. But it is yet
little known that large scale
hydro electricity is a major
contributor to global global
warming. Reservoirs could
despite their clean image be
even more devastating for our
climate and fossil fuel plants.
A few years ago, I spent on
Monday it goes on and on. And
now I'm thinking two things one
is this guy serious? Or and by
the way, let me go to two graphs
or three graphs. This is mega
mega hydro has an astrologers
record the World Commission on
dams, WC D, consisting of
experts, opposition and industry
was installed to produce an
independent review of large
dams, the WC D estimates in
2000, that 40 to 80 million
people have been displaced
worldwide. 80 million. Anyway,
the seems likely, I mean, just
the number doesn't sound right.
Maybe in China, whatever the
case is, this could have been,
you know, this could be a piece
of propaganda put out by the oil
industry, obviously to you know,
keep people on the right track
that using fossil fuel. But I
don't think so I think this is
actually just some typical
reactionary. In the sense of
let's you know, we can't do
anything well, let's just cut
you know, cover ourselves and
put us up in the cave somewhere
and,
Adam Curry: and write it out. If
it's not the hydro electric
power, it's bovine flatulence,
flatulence.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the
cloud. So let's see the thing
that I think to me that this all
this whole global warming thing
always boils down to is
veganism. It it's, it's at some
point, you don't care what
nutball you're watching, if
you're watching the Green
Planet, they have it hauled net
channel now on the Dish Network
and elsewhere called green. And
it's just a bunch of horrible
shows that are self serving SF
emeralds is actually pretty
good, because he's still just
cooking. You know, emerald
green, get it? And then they
have a guy who does I got a disk
for you, I'll send you with a
couple of these shows on it just
like just like all the other
ones you sent me here. But the
point at some point always
becomes vegetarianism. I mean,
there's always related there's
always a vegetarian angle and
they always did it gets kind of
to veganism. And let's get rid
of the herds of cattle and let's
just eat you know, oats that's
kind of always that element.
I've never seen anybody that
that doesn't have that element
was the dragon shock there
behind the whole thing PETA, the
vegans and you know the
crackpots you know foods the
whole
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you I
don't I don't talk bad about
PETA at all because those people
frightened me to death those are
the ones that want the one
they're actually killing you
know, I'm very afraid of a
really radical act and look, I
love animals but there are some
very very radical elements out
there in the animal activism
activism space, and and they do
they kill people.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the watches
people are meaningless crap.
Every day, it's all
Adam Curry: about the animals.
So along the lines of global
warming, you want to hear some
earth shattering news. What
scientists from the United
Nations, IPCC have now
determined that the earth will
be cooling for the next three
decades studies the same people
that brought you global warming,
now known as climate change,
quote, addressing the Washington
policy policymakers in Seattle,
Washington, Dr. Don Easterbrook
said the shifting of the Pacific
Decadal Oscillation. That's PDO
for short, from its warm mode to
its cool mode, virtually assures
global cooling for the next 25
to 30 years, and means the
global warming of the past 30
years is over the announcement
by Yes, the announcement by NASA
Sir, that the PDO that's the
Pacific Decadal Oscillation has
shifted from its warm mode to
its cool mode is right on
schedule as predicted by past
climate and PDO changes and in
the sun references, and is not
an oddity superimposed upon
unmasking the predicted severe
warming by the IPCC. This has
significant implications for the
future, and indicates that the
IPCC climate models were wrong
in their prediction of global
temperatures soaring one degree
Fahrenheit per decade for the
rest of the century. But it
doesn't matter. No one else to
hear about it, John, it doesn't
matter. Well, I'm
John C Dvorak: blogging it.
Adam Curry: That's what I mean.
No one else will hear about Bada
John C Dvorak: bing. So the
link, it's kidding me. Oh, of
course. When did that come out?
These guys are just
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: 11 December 7,
actually, is when this came out
John C Dvorak: came out December
7, and that we haven't and it
hasn't been, I
Adam Curry: didn't catch it
until that's an arrest. But this
is this whole shifting of the
poles and the solar winds and
the diminishing of the magnetism
of the poles. All of this goes
back to 2002. So this is before
Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth at
NASA and, and other scientists
were saying, Oh, this will
change the climate. It could
make it warmer or cooler. But
they were literally saying it's
that that is the cause not
manmade, it's all over the news.
Now. It's mainstream
publications just now. It's no
one's doing anything with it.
Yeah, maybe but we're still all
gonna die if we don't stop our
cows from farting and stop
generating power from the ocean
stop eating meat here
John C Dvorak: was basically
where it boils down to stop
eating meat. Because there are
animals I mean, this is people
of course with anthropomorphize
the, you know, the all animals
from my wife has it there is
because they watched too many
Disney cartoons. With all these
talking animals.
Unknown: Usually sounding a lot
like Eddie Murphy. In the face
of overwhelming odds I'm left
with only one option. I'm going
to have to science the shit out
of this
Adam Curry: you have something
called fat people clip
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, well,
this is what we can save this
for another real new segment or
we can do this one out. This is
what this is interesting. This
kind of changes the direction of
the shoulder a bit. But this is
a news report that came out like
a week ago. Now it and you know
everything has to have a global
warming angle. So now that this
is an actual news report that
was done on I think it was k I
think was either key. I think it
was the the KPI name is KPI x
and in San Francisco, and
they're blaming
Adam Curry: sorry, then I'm
sorry, I just started the clip.
Premature at all. Okay,
John C Dvorak: play the clip.
Kip doe on why researchers say
obesity is bad for the
environment.
Unknown: Obesity and global
warming both heavy topics now
linked by a new study from the
London School of Hygiene and
Tropical Medicine. It says
people who weigh more tend to
drive more and eat and all that
food. It's shipped on average
1500 miles from where it's grown
to your plate that people
researchers contend are killing
the planet than those who are
fit alright finally
Adam Curry: something I can
stand behind now you're talking
kill the fat people this is good
now that we're really in doesn't
doesn't
John C Dvorak: and the funny
thing about this reported which
went a lot longer, by the way, I
didn't want to play the whole
thing by there was a bunch of
puns and droughts around because
the reporter couldn't take it
too seriously. And then
throughout the report, all they
showed was the fattest people
imaginable. The TV guys love to
show this. And you know, you
never see their heads. It's just
either a shot of their big
they're badass. Yeah, or their
big gut that's hanging over
bouncing off their knees. But
what people
Adam Curry: got to realize that
this is exactly where we're
headed. And yeah, we'd laugh
about it now. But it's no joking
matter because they literally
the they're already doing it in
the United Kingdom with the with
parents, you know, they can take
your kids away from you if
they're obese or if they're
deemed obese. And they're going
to do it under all of these all
of these new rules and
regulations. You know, Hey, man,
you're too fat, you're killing
the planet. You're You're anti
socialist, anti social behavior.
We got to cite you for that. And
by the way, look at this lovely
camp. We have all set up once
you come over here, and we'll
train that all off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So what
else you got on your list? I'm
looking
Adam Curry: for the audio, or
preferably video. So I'm not
going to read this whole thing
because I have the transcript.
But I'll do it on our next show.
Maybe someone can help me find
the find the actual source
material of Al Gore lying to
Congress. Representative
Blackburn was questioning Al
Gore at the Global Warming
legislation hearings, which you
know, we talked about this. So
now watch out because here it
comes here come all the taxes on
on everything that emits carbon
including the actual words
coming out of your cakehole. And
and he talks I guess it's a he
right Blackburn. Thanks. Thanks.
So he, he talks Gore completely
into a corner basically making
him say or admit that he is
profiting from from all of his
green initiatives. And a it's
just reading the transcript.
It's it's beautiful. But what
happens is, so here it is. I'll
just read this. So you're a
partner at a venture capital
firm. They've invested
$1,000,000,000.40 companies that
are going to benefit from cap
and trade legislation. Remember
that? So is the legislation that
we're discussing here today, is
that something you are
personally going to benefit
from? And then the transcript
goes, Al Gore sigh. I believe
that the transition to a green
economy is good for our economy
and good for all of us. And I've
invested in
John C Dvorak: having to listen
your voice to make that really
work. And I can just see him
saying just like, well,
Adam Curry: I know that that's
what that's exactly why I want
to have the real source material
that I have invested in it.
John C Dvorak: But every penny
that I can't do not even know,
Adam Curry: everybody that I've
made, I've put into a nonprofit,
the Alliance for Climate
Protection to spread awareness
of why we have to take on this
challenge. And and Congresswoman
de gauche, Congresswoman, if
you're if you believe the reason
that I have been working on this
issue for 30 years is because of
greed. You don't know me? And
then Blackburn comes back says
No, sir. I'm not making
accusations. I'm asking
questions that have been asked
of me and individuals
constituents, that we're seeking
a point of clarity. So I'm
asking, and then out and then so
here it comes. Every penny that
I've made has gone to it my
nonprofit, every penny from the
movie, the book, from any
investments from renewable
energy, I've been willing to put
my money where my mouth is, do
you think there's something
wrong with being active in
business in this country? So
immediately throws the, you
know, is is doing business bad.
So he's he's outright lying,
that it's all in nonprofit,
because it's not. He's making
tons of dough off of this. And
he left the White House with $2
million reportedly in his
pocket. And now he so far has
invested $35 million of his own
money in for profit endeavors.
And he's sitting there saying to
Congress, no, no, no, no, no,
this is all nonprofit.
Unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
everyone who listens to the show
know that we're no fans of Al
Gore using Science News and BBC
this week. They had a complete
documentary on power shift. Oh,
nine. Oh, nice. Now, power
shift.org People can go out
there and check it out. It's a
green activists. And
essentially, the government has
taken over this this particular
conference and they loaded it up
with Obama people to keynoter
was the EPA woman, Paul Podesta,
that one of the staffers that
one of the major staffers, you
know, second in command of one
of these other guys was the guy
looked like the organizer from
the way they had this thing.
structured the way they did the,
the, the show this documentary,
Bill Clinton was there,
everybody was loaded up there
was loaded up with these guys.
And here's what I'm sure I'm
watching this thing thinking,
wow, this is just another and
they got all these kids. It's a
bunch of young people. And they
get them all pumped up with you
know, this green, green, green,
green green stuff and you know,
global warming. And so then they
jumped to showing some of the
behind the scenes seminars, you
know, they always have the
breakouts go, of course. So the
breakouts are training to kids
on civil disobedience, resisting
arrest, how to do sit in spot
properly, how to lock arms for
how to do passive resistance.
Wait a minute, let me get this
straight. And I would have been
anybody who happens to be one of
those people. I like to ask a
question, since when do does the
government train the youth to do
these sorts of things? The first
thing I saw it, I thought it was
either Nazi youth or the the
young come
Adam Curry: away from it. And
this was this was American youth
or British youth.
John C Dvorak: That the first
thing I thought it was either
Nazi youth or the Young
Communist Party, this is
training the youth. Well, when
is the
Adam Curry: government really
why was this British youth are
American youth. I'm confused
American youth.
John C Dvorak: This was all
Americans. This This show is you
know, it's a British show. But
the this was in the United
States this meeting, and it was
our government training kids You
did, how to do sit ins how to
lock arms, how to resist arrest,
but
Adam Curry: again, there's
resisting against you go.
Apparently
John C Dvorak: not a good thing
because you're resisting against
big business who doesn't do what
they're supposed to do? Oh my
God, that's the only thing I
see. Yeah, but stunning. I was
shocked.
Adam Curry: I saw Rahm Emanuel,
who was interviewed on CNBC and
I didn't see the whole
interview. I just saw a
soundbite, but one of his
answers was literally, you know,
we're in a fantastic place right
now, where there's an
opportunity to figure out what
the relationship really should
be between big business and
government. I'm like, Oh, my
God, the guys just out and out
saying it. They want to have
control, there's got to be some
kind of takeover or some kind of
relationship.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and if they
don't intervene, and if you
don't knuckle under, then
they're gonna do kids are going
to be sent over there to protest
sit in, you know, harass you
essentially, this is harassment.
I mean, they're training the
kids to be harassers to because,
you know, just people who are
new who haven't signed on to
100% of the green initiative.
And of course, the whole thing
boiled down once again, because
of the keynoter and everybody
else brought it up, cap and
trade cap and trade carbon
credits, carbon credits cap and
trade.
Adam Curry: John Broder wrote
his article seeking to save the
planet with with a thesaurus.
And I just read the first couple
of paragraphs the problem with
global warming some
environmentalist believes is,
quote, global warming. The term
turns people off. Now we've
talked about this because
remember, it went from global
warming to climate change.
Listen to what's next. The term
turns people off fostering
images of shaggy haired liberals
economic sacrifice and complex
scientific disputes. According
to extensive polling and focus
group sessions conducted by eco
America, a nonprofit
environmental marketing and
messaging firm in Washington.
This this is how the ships being
sold to you. Oh yeah, instead of
grim warnings about global
warming the firm advises to talk
about our deteriorating
atmosphere, dropped discussions
of carbon dioxide and bring up
moving away from the dirty fuels
of the past. Don't confuse
people with Cap and Trade use
terms like cap and cashback or
pollution reduction refund. I
got a hard on John, this is good
stuff.
John C Dvorak: This is good
stuff Pollution
Adam Curry: Reduction refund
this this is what happened at
the supermarket where you're
used to getting cash back you
will be capping cashing back and
on your receipt you will be
congratulated for money you gave
to the pollution reduction
refund
Unknown: something right.
Adam Curry: When you buy your
when you buy your Monsanto
products and your semi linked to
this, this is good stuff. Well
if you look at the show notes,
but this is what's going
John C Dvorak: on and this kind
of thing. And it's because you
know, you know people when you
give your donation to
divert.org/and Uh, you have to
realize that both Adam and I are
actually involved in the media
in such a way that we know how
this some of these mechanisms
work because we work with public
relations companies all the time
and and they and the kind of
skills they have and how they do
you know grassroots things that
are how they
Adam Curry: do it. I'm
Unknown: gonna show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
John C Dvorak: Yeah, wow. Cap
and Trade crap and trade is that
when they said long, crushed a
lot back in the day.
Adam Curry: I know. I really
did. I really did. Have you
noticed how clean I am these
days?
John C Dvorak: Yes, you're much
cleaner right? But also the
sound varies so much because
we're using Skype and we're from
different locations and and
Adam Curry: for some reason, I
had a whole period there where I
really liked eco.
John C Dvorak: Like, I don't
know what you're trying to get
to Mexican station.
Adam Curry: I have no idea what
I was thinking like, oh, reverb,
that sounds really good. You
know, and, and sometimes you'd
have a really big booming voice
I remember specifically, where I
had the curry condo in San
Francisco, we'd both be on
Comcast. And we would have to
reconnect eight times an episode
actually one of the clips I
don't remember which one I had
to cut out or reconnect because
I keep saying, are you there?
Are you there? Are you there?
Are you there there and then
Skype would go all like low
grade, as we say,
John C Dvorak: and do this. The
squishing thing to is always
taking place.
Adam Curry: And we always said
it's amazing. any of this stuff
works. And it's amazing that it
still works at all, honestly.
But
John C Dvorak: we do want to
mention that this is not we
still need donations and we hope
that people go to no agenda
show.net and click on the
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there or the word.org/and. A and
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you liked this show, we'd like
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Adam Curry: Yes. And we want to
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artwork and thanks, sir de
nonnamous for the for being
it.io. And we will be mentioning
all of the donors on the next
show, which will be 1664, which
will be a regular episode back.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. With a
long donation segment, we hope.
Please,
Adam Curry: everybody, we hoped.
Thank you all very much. No
agenda donations.com. And we're
going to head back into it. And
we'll be back at the end of the
show. Stay tuned, here comes
more climate change bullcrap. So
if I look at the Grand overview
of everything that's going on,
and all the horseshit that we're
following when it comes to
climate change here, here's kind
of what I'm thinking. Here's the
the theory that I'm working on,
call it a conspiracy theory, if
you must. So clearly, clearly,
there is knowledge that in the
next few years, and probably
it'll coincide with 2012 Go
ahead and say it Oh, brother.
Oh, brother, clearly there is
knowledge that there are big
changes afoot and and it makes
sense there are changes the
magnetic poles are reversing,
we've got all kinds of massive
magnetic and solar activity, you
know, the Earth is changing the
Earth changes all the time. It's
evolved throughout its its
history, only 6000 years, as you
know, and I believe that there
is actual knowledge that lots of
crap is going to happen and that
there will be weird. I'm not
talking I'm not calling for
destruction and devastation.
We're all gonna die. But yeah,
we could see flooding in weird
places, we could totally see
shit coming down. And I think
that that's why all of this all
these stories are being
launched. And that's why Al Gore
can say with such certainty that
they know the science is clear.
And
John C Dvorak: well, while
you're at it, play the clip I
gave you No.
Adam Curry: Okay. Hold on a
second.
John C Dvorak: This is a one day
hard on Larry King.
Adam Curry: She's Is she from
the from the view, Joy Bay.
She's
John C Dvorak: the comedian.
She's a comedian that that is
one of the women on the view.
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here we
go. She's on Larry King. And
she's gonna be
John C Dvorak: bitching about,
oh, sorry, go ahead. She's gonna
be bitching about Rush Limbaugh.
Adam Curry: And this, and this
pertains to 2012. Somehow,
John C Dvorak: just Plitt There
you go.
Unknown: There's no problem. I
mean, this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I
used to work with him years ago.
And I sort of been friendly with
him in a certain weird kind of
way. Did pills together. And he
constantly is talking about how
there was no global warming.
Every climatologist in the world
says there's global warming,
every scientist has said there
is a problem. We're all on this
earth together. And this guy
goes out and says that there's
no global warming, who is Hey,
what is he talking about? And
who with these ditto heads that
agree with him? I'd like to
know, aren't they breathing the
same air that we are? I don't
think he has a degree in
meteorology. Oh, I don't think a
Adam Curry: bonehead meteorology
that has nothing to do with
climate.
John C Dvorak: So of course,
that that implies that either Al
Gore has a degree in
meteorology, I think as the
great joy has a degree. The
thing that gets me about this
stuff, which is every the word
used every now
Adam Curry: every single one.
John C Dvorak: This is what's
the problem is with this
argument and why it sets off a
bunch of alarms and red flags
with me when you start saying it
because this is like going to
Israel and getting an agreement.
You know, with anybody, they're
just going to be debating
forever. And then scientists
don't all agree on anything is
the
Adam Curry: definition of
science. Sorry. Isn't that
almost a definition of science
that it's not truth is
debatable. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So how does every
with no exception every
climatologist and every
scientist, this is bold? I mean,
when you start hearing that you
know something's wrong. Dr.
Adam Curry: Tyson, what do you
make of all this? My
calculations show that
scientifically? We're screwed.
Geneva says within days they
might declare level six for the
first time in their history. For
what for the for the the flu,
swine flu? Why
John C Dvorak: don't they just
pack it in and say they were
wrong? They can't
Adam Curry: apparently they just
can't admit it. And yes, like
these guys, jobs depend on it.
Oh, crap. You know, we started.
They started and now we have
global warming. So here so it's
North America, Australia and
Chile. 21,940 cases 125 deaths.
Dude, that's less than normal
flu and That's the pandemic.
That's it. They can't give up
because they've got to support
all these deals with the
pharmaceuticals for all of these
stupid inoculations for the
vaccination
John C Dvorak: news I mentioned
this last week or last Thursday.
They want to do three shots a
year now so are you
Adam Curry: kidding me? No.
Article Three
John C Dvorak: shots at you.
They're gonna advocate three,
three flu shots. What do you
need three flu you only need one
during the flu season? Well,
Adam Curry: the question is
advocate or mandate mandate.
That's the question they
John C Dvorak: would need in the
US they have a lot of trouble
getting a mandated flu shot
because there's just not as
that's just not gonna happen.
It's our Constitution,
especially after that that
fiasco with the swine flu
sometime, I think was back in
the 70s where they had the
oldest swine flu is gonna 76
shots killed more people than
the flu did.
Adam Curry: Yeah. 76 I believe,
John. So
John C Dvorak: I'm reading about
this guy, you know who the guy
who had the, you know, the name
of the asking this question in
hopes that you don't because I
figured you know who? I think a
lot of us are skeptical about
things. Always forget some of
the prime movers. You know,
who's the guy that is the father
of global warming?
Adam Curry: Oh, I think you sent
me this in the show notes. Go
ahead. I'll pretend James
John C Dvorak: Hansen.
Adam Curry: Is he a NASA guy was
that
John C Dvorak: NASA
climatologist who? You made some
testimony in 1988 in front of
Congress claiming manmade global
warming was taking place and we
have to do something about it.
And then Gore became his pal and
so did okay,
Adam Curry: that part I didn't
know he was actually the guy
that that inspired scam artist
Gore to come up with his
PowerPoint. Is that how it
worked?
John C Dvorak: Pretty much.
Yeah. He's the inspiration. So
anyway, so I'm just reading
through something. And then I
run into this old posting from
January which I don't know did I
miss it? Or was it to get no
press? I didn't even blog it
that I know. I don't think maybe
it maybe it's on the blog. I
have to I should go look. But
how his supervisor John Theon
sent out this note after I guess
he's retired or he's not the
supervisor. He doesn't work at
NASA anymore. And he says that
Hansen was an embarrassment to
NASA. He was never muzzled, and
he's this guy. Theon says it all
climate models are useless. And
let me just read a couple of
things from the from the note
that was sent out. retired
senior NASA atmospheric
scientist John Theon, the former
supervisor of James Hansen. NASA
is vocal, manmade global warming
fear soothsayer, has now
publicly declared himself a
skeptic and declared that Hansen
here's the reason I dug this up
is because Hansen just was in
the news a couple of days ago
saying it's worse than I
thought. Were due to high and
he's in he's targeted coal. So
he was arrested with Daryl
Hannah up and in West Virginia,
it's picketing some cold. Daryl
Hannah, right. Yeah. And so he
was up there getting arrested
with Daryl Hannah. Anyway,
Adam Curry: the guy says, By the
way, if you gotta get arrested,
it might as well be with her.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: get handcuffed to
her. And he declared that Hanson
embarrassed NASA with his
alarming climate claims and said
Hansen was never muzzled Dion
joins the rapidly growing ranks.
phenom, but here's the one that
the interesting quote is here.
First of all, he says he thinks
he likes to join the group that
sets the skeptic this guy. He
says NASA scientist James Hansen
to create a world wide media
frenzy with his dire climate
warning is calls for trials
against those who dissent
against manmade global warming.
He's one of the guys that thinks
anyone who says it like what I'm
saying now I should be arrested
and his claims. And his claims
that he was allegedly muzzled by
the Bush administration despite
doing 1400 on the job media
interviews, yes, science.
Adam Curry: The title of this is
gagged the internet. Apparently,
Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law
professor who was has been
appointed to a post within the
Obama administration that will
grant him powers, as the article
says that are merely mind
boggling. It explicitly supports
using the courts to impose a
chilling effect on speech that
might hurt someone's feelings.
So this is how he's working on
stifling free speech on the
internet. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's a good
effective switch. So it's a
Adam Curry: it might work in
mind his he has a new book,
which is coming out advanced
copies, of course, were read by
the journalist who wrote this
article. His book is called on
rumors, how falsehoods spread,
why we believe them, what can be
done. It's going out to
reviewers ahead of its September
publication date, but
considering the prominence with
which Sunstein is about to be
endowed, and I'm gonna He's He's
Actually his key has been chosen
by President Obama to head the
White House Office of
Information and Regulatory
Affairs, John, finally, the
Ministry of Truth is here. It's
about the White House Office of
Information and Regulatory
Affairs. This has been reported
in The Wall Street Journal. But
of course, it's you haven't
really heard about this because
we're more concerned with
Michael Jackson's murder. And
let me see if I can find, here
we go. He worries that sustain
that we're headed for a future
in which quote, people's beliefs
are a product of social networks
working as echo chambers, in
which false rumors spread like
wildfire. That future they're
already here. According to
Sunstein, we hardly need to
imagine a world however, in
which people and institutions
are being harmed by the rapid
spread of damaging falsehoods
via the internet. We live in
that world what might be done to
reduce the harm? Well, he
questions the libel standard
basically, it comes down to a
notify and take that
John C Dvorak: puts you in your
myself in the driver's seat when
it comes to some of those early
lawsuits. Yeah, well, I was
always somebody saying something
nasty about it. Ryan, it hurts
my feelings. It hurts. My
Adam Curry: feelings are so
freakin hurt John, what he's
going for is a libel. So a
system of notify and takedowns
will have takedown notices for
untruths on the intranet. So if
you write an untruth, notify and
take down he'll be
John C Dvorak: able to get it
and this is going to be the
government dole because you're
going to have to hire millions
of people to do this. I want a
job. I
Adam Curry: got to study some
law. I got to pass the bar. I
gotta get into some kind of law
program.
John C Dvorak: takedown notice
for and by the way, how does
that work with global warming?
Adam Curry: Oh, well, Oh, geez.
Well, of course, you know, you
if you say the global warming
doesn't exist, you'll get a
takedown notice. Yeah, you'll
get a total takedown notice. We
were talking about what's her
name? The weird chick who was
testifying? We had a sound clip
of her last time.
John C Dvorak: Janine Garoppolo.
Adam Curry: She looks a bit like
Jimmy Garoppolo. But no, that's
not the one. The other one. The
Lisa Jackson, Lisa Jackson.
Yeah. So apparently two years
ago, the Supreme Court passed a
ruling that said that the EPA,
which she now heads, would be
allowed to create legislation to
stop greenhouse gases. And she
would, but there were several
other memos that basically said
there's no science to support
that greenhouse gases are
creating, you know, global
warming.
John C Dvorak: There's also a
proviso in within that, that
that scenario, you described,
that she the head of the EPA, or
any head of the EPA, not just
her, a can, can defy, and they
talked about this in these
hearings, can define anything as
a greenhouse gas if they want
to, you know, yes. So you could
be a greenhouse?
Adam Curry: Well, I think co2
pretty much covers most things,
since that's the shit we're
exhaling when we breathe. So I
think there's gonna be a
John C Dvorak: tax on that
you're gonna have to hold your
breath. It's a law. It's fact
it's science. And there's an
article that people should try
to track down, I'll send you
make sure it'll be in the show
notes, which is the Telegraph's
article on July 11 2009, just
came out climate change the sun
and the oceans do not lie by
Christopher Booker. And he goes
on and on and on it which would
have would have a crock that
this seems to be the especially
the cap and trade but he makes
let me just read this in a very
funny first paragraph. The moves
not being made by the world's
political establishment to lock
us into December's Copenhagen
treaty to halt global warming
are as alarming as anything
that's happened in our
lifetimes. And last week in
Italy, the various branches of
our emerging world government g8
And g 20. agreed in principle
that the world must by 2050 cut
its co2 emissions in half.
Britain in the US already
committed to cutting their
fossil fuels by more than 80%
short of an unimaginable
technological revolution. This
could only be achieved by
closing down virtually all of
our economic activity, no
electricity, no transport, no
industry. All of this is being
egged on by a gigantic publicity
machine by the UN by serried
ranks of government funded
scientists by cheerleaders such
as Al Gore, last week comparing
the fight against global warming
to that against Hitler's Nazis.
Adam Curry: Go telegraph and by
John C Dvorak: politicians who
have no idea what they're saying
Eating and train. This makes it
this even otter that the runaway
warming predicted by their
computer models simply isn't
happening. This, by the way has
been pointed up only by there's
somebody the other day that
said, you know, right when talk
radio listeners get this kind of
information then it never goes
into the mainstream. And people
are always baffled that and they
cite like the Duke University
student fake rape charges that
everybody knew was phony that
listens to real news. But the
New York Times was still
promoting running these kids out
of school. And it's just
typical, this particular stuff,
right, and I'm hearing a lot
about it. They have not been
able to confirm any warming
whatsoever over the past five or
six years, and they've been the
and when there's no sea level
rising and just nothing going
there are
Adam Curry: 30,000 scientists
who aren't and led by the guy
who started the Weather Channel,
who are suing Al Gore, and the
UN about the so called Science
of global warming, you don't
even hear about that. No, of
course not why 30,000 of which
8000 are PhDs 30,000 The
science. This is from our buddy
Andrew or Loski from the
register. This is quite amazing
to me, the CRU, the Climatic
Research Unit, which of course,
has provided the global climate
data set, which is the most
cited surface temperature record
kept by the IPCC from the UN. So
basically, this is the data that
the phony baloney scientists, I
just can't wait for the email,
the phony baloney scientists of
the United Nations IPCC of which
not all were climatologist, and
of course, there's now you know,
eight 9000, other real
climatologists who are against
this research. So this was the
research that was used that led
to eventually An Inconvenient
Truth, and, of course, all the
way down to the cap and trade
legislation, and has sparked all
this global warming unrest. They
say they no longer have the raw
data. They don't have the raw
data anymore. There was a number
of freedom of information
requests that were submitted for
the raw data. As you know, they
they're the ones that keep all
the historical data of surface
temperatures. And here's what
they say, We are not in a
position to supply data for a
particular country not covered
by the example agreements
referred to earlier, as we have
never had sufficient resources
to keep track of the exact
source of each individual
monthly value. Apparently, they
don't have USB drives. Since the
1980s. We have merged the data
that we have received into
existing series or begun new
ones. So it's impossible to say
if all stations with a
particular country or all
individual records will be
freely available data and
storage availability in the
1980s meant we were not able to
keep the multiple sources for
sites, only the station series
after adjustment for hump
homogeneity issues. We therefore
do not Majan at homogeneity with
I think I've done that was
someone once we therefore do not
hold the original raw data, but
only the value added ie
homogenized data.
John C Dvorak: manipulated when
they use that word, yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, that just blows
me away.
John C Dvorak: That's a good one
from our Loski.
Adam Curry: That's a fence. It's
awesome.
John C Dvorak: So weird that you
had to read stuff like that in
the register? Well,
Adam Curry: I read the register
a lot because it rocks. Because
it's such a great application.
John C Dvorak: But it seems to
me, you know,
Adam Curry: can we donate to the
register? How do they make
money? They make plenty of it.
They make more money than we do?
John C Dvorak: Oh really should
be donating to us.
Adam Curry: So yeah, so the
headline is global warming eight
my data. We've lost the numbers
as Cru as they respond to
Freedom of Information request,
the world's source for global
temperature records, admits it's
lost or destroyed all the
original data that would allow
third party lost or destroyed.
Yeah. Well, that's what he said
jobs lost or
John C Dvorak: destroyed, data
Adam Curry: lost or destroyed.
So this is the actual data that
spawned this whole global global
warming debate. It is no longer
available because of the 90 day
1980s We didn't have enough
money to buy hard drives. That's
basically what he's saying.
John C Dvorak: That's written on
a piece of paper. Yeah.
Adam Curry: printed out. Science
is truth. Maher is
John C Dvorak: going to is going
to be sarcastic in response to a
big debate about global warming.
Oh, global warming. Oh, so Mars.
Yeah. So So Kathy Griffin comes
in. We're asking a semi serious
question. And Maher throws a
sarcastic remark at her that you
know, she says Who and I'm gonna
give you some of it. But you got
to listen to it to appreciate
it. She's asked what's causing
this. And then Mara
sarcastically says, What's the
Democrats? Oh, they can ruin the
economy, mocking what some right
wingers might say? She takes his
comments seriously. It goes,
This flies over a head. She's a
comic, by the way, flies over a
head about a mile, and Maura
tries to recover. But the whole
thing falls apart. You can hear
Margot Baba Baba, and but the
whole thing falls apart. Because
everybody gets into the fray. It
is one of the funniest little
scenes I saw on the show.
Unknown: People are more
skeptical of global warming now
than they were 10 years ago,
especially young people. This is
really scary. Young people in
great numbers think it's a hoax,
then who is behind the hoax? It
was behind the lie Democrats to
make sure our economy fails,
then how do we change
it? No, but that's what the
Republican mentality I mean, who
was perpetuating this notion
that global warming is false.
The people will, I think a small
number of skeptics who get
disproportionate coverage on the
media and some industries that
don't want to be regulated.
John C Dvorak: And you notice
these features again, but it
just a Republican, they all step
all over him. And the joke is
Adam Curry: I think it was that
same show that he said, you
know, California is in flames,
you know, because of global
warming. And you know nothing
about climate jackass. And it's
actually because of a cooler
climate a that has made
California extremely dry. It is
exactly the opposite. And that,
to me, that's like huge
disinformation right there.
Anyway, we will continue to
watch the show, because it
irritates us. And that is and
that is a form of Come on, man.
That's a form of a form of
entertainment. NASA is shooting
off rockets to create artificial
clouds in the outermost layers
of the Earth's atmosphere. It's
called the Kerr project, charged
aerosol release experiment. And
they are literally creating a
cloud of artificial dust over
the earth.
John C Dvorak: Why would they
want to do this? This is what
happens when a volcano goes off
and kills everybody in the
world. And
Adam Curry: it's an aluminium
oxide dust particles that
there'll be spreading. And, and
well of course, this is the you
know, this is like well, maybe
we can stop global warming these
knows
John C Dvorak: you can't be
okay.
Adam Curry: All the all the
links. Let
John C Dvorak: me tell you this,
I was at an event. And there was
a guy from NASA even though
nobody from NASA seems to know
who he was, who went out for
this half baked theory about
putting up all these crazy
satellites that would then open
up these huge panels and block
the sun to sound like like
Montgomery burns Simpson
episode. That's funny. And he's
gonna block the sun. And there's
a bunch of people Chipotle in
the audience nodding their heads
in agreement. This
Unknown: idea Yeah.
John C Dvorak: This guy is in
criminally insane, he should be
taken out now.
Adam Curry: Well, it gets worse.
Tomorrow. Friday, NASA will
launch a spectacular mission to
bomb the moon.
John C Dvorak: This is not the
time we get to bomb the moon. So
they get bombed the spot where
we didn't land. The
Adam Curry: L Cross mission will
blast off from Cape Canaveral,
Florida carrying a missile that
will blast a hole in the lunar
surface at twice the speed of a
bullet.
John C Dvorak: And all sizes of
bullet go. I don't know. That
bullet goes about Mach 1.5. I
think maybe so and
Adam Curry: this is another one
of the space scientists want to
see if any water ice or vapor is
revealed in the clouds of the
debris. You know, it's just not
a good idea to be shooting at
the moon. It just doesn't. It
just isn't. You know, the old
saying Shoot the Moon shoot for
the moon sun. Well, they're
doing it. But this this creating
clouds is a part of
geoengineering. And we haven't
actually talked about this but
there's a lot of these kooky
things like the you know, expand
the panels, there's also there's
been talk of trying to push the
earth you know, and move our
orbit a little bit and it's
like, this is dangerous and
crazy thinking. This is not
always is not a good idea. But
But spewing aluminium oxide into
the atmosphere or even if it's
above the atmosphere, it just
doesn't seem like a good idea.
They'll be tracking the dust
cloud for days or even months to
study its behavior
John C Dvorak: years of this
thing stuck with it. How's it
going to come down? It's not
gonna rain. There's no rain
that's going to take it out.
How's it going? How's it going
to dissipate?
Adam Curry: Let me see what they
say. The US Navy, NASA and the
US Defense Department. Oh, what
are they doing? In this has made
a decision to conduct one or
more atmospheric tests in order
to create an aluminium oxide
dust cloud without the
permission and for the most
part, the knowledge of the
citizens of the United States.
Eventually, they say the oxide
particles will return to Earth
polluting the air, water and
soil.
John C Dvorak: But they don't
say how are they going to return
to Earth?
Adam Curry: I don't know what
we'll see how high up it's
going. We got to find out well,
if it's if it's kind of like,
you know, in the, in that layer
where the Concorde used to fly,
I guess eventually it will come
down to earth. I don't like it.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't like
this this sort of
experimentation with the I think
the United Nations had cracked.
Where are they in these
pictures? Oh, well, this is an
international situation. In
other words, people in France
oh, by the way, anyway, I want
to thank the people that from
around the world who gave us
money, but the people around the
world why should they why should
this aluminum cloud be floating
over their country? Yes. I mean,
it's really I think there's a
treaty violation here. You can't
just throw crap in the air like
that, you know, unnaturally. And
then just because you think it's
fun to experiment climate, it's
Adam Curry: time it's time. It's
time It's time exam exam.
John C Dvorak: This is Chris
Matthews, Ron Reagan and a black
guy, which I'm sorry, I don't
have his name. Who who's very
jazzed to hold his own against
them. When he brings up the
climate change issue here goes
Unknown: in the interest of this
country. Everybody knows the
same thing. Basically, there is
a climate change problem.
Anybody reads the paper thinks
knows somewhere down the line
number two, their man has
something to do with number two.
And number three, we're going to
stop depending on Arab oil, or
we're crazy. So you got to do
something about it. And is the
President doing something he is
doing something you say everyone
who knows anything says that
there's global climate change? I
think there's serious scientific
disputes of whether or not that
is actually viable. But let me
address the challenge. Of
course, I really challenge it. I
think you've had we've seen what
happened in East Anglia over in
England, where they discredited
the scientific research and
these people, I think that is a
gimmick. question, the question
of collusion at this meeting.
Chris. Oh, wait a second. So
we're supposed to take
scientists who have a fiduciary
interest in this that could
benefit our fiduciary
Adam Curry: interest. Nice,
nice, good word.
Unknown: party line. This is
actually I've researched this.
Why should we take hook line and
sinker? We'll put some of these
environmentalists have said
about global climate change. Why
don't we have an honest debate?
Why don't we have the
conservative voices actually
address them? Because the
weather invoiced right now in
the last x many years is the
same as it used to be in photo
and warmer and warmer. It was
sure warm here on the East
Coast. We had blizzards. It was
one of the it was one of the
coldest winters on record.
crediting yourself, Ron, come
on.
Actually, Ron Reagan. I'm
actually making my point. It was
one of the coldest winters
one of the discredits, you know
it doesn't your thoughts. Well,
listen, weather is not climate.
So let's forget about climate
change. To be part of it isn't
it isn't? Well, as I do. We're
talking about climate change for
the moment because we don't even
have to discuss climate change.
We can discuss national security
here. Everybody knows forget
about climate change. Everything
is the future isn't solar and
wind, sustainable energy
sources. That's where we have to
be going now.
Adam Curry: No, I take sucks
exception to that. That's
unbelievable. That's bullshit.
How about nuclear? There's all
the
John C Dvorak: guy that
Republican there he's Tiedemann
is that you and then they jump
him up, jump on him for that, in
fact, is the clip still
Unknown: got half a minute left?
Not to the past, we gotta be
going to the 21st century, not
the 19th.
Now we're on ranking. Here's
where I agree with you. I agree
with all those but you need to
add one more component to that
you need to add nuclear energy.
France has over 80% of their
domestic supply supplied by
nuclear energy. The only thing
you guys like about the French
is nuclear energy that's about
you never on any topic, you will
need to French fries you make
front of their freedom fries.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, this is a
good example of being shouted
down for having any any kind of
thought full consideration
whatsoever. You just get shouted
down by these guys. And that's
how this whole thing does
sciences in everybody agrees.
Anyway, Matthew says anyone who
reads a newspaper agrees. In
other words, the scientists not
the scientists don't only agree,
but anyone who reads a newspaper
also agree so everybody agrees
except idiots. And the funny
thing is, they have these memes
that they keep putting out Arab
oil era boy we don't even use
why don't they be honest about
it and say it's Alberta Oil.
Most of the oil in the United
States that we use is from
Alberta, Canada and Venezuela.
We have very low Little oil from
Saudi Arabia very little. And
then they throw this this this
nasty little comment about, oh,
well if you don't believe in
global warming, you don't
believe in evolution either,
which is a really ridiculous
specious jump leap of faith.
It's a chickenshit thing to do
your math, you should be ashamed
of himself for even being on the
air with this kind of crap. John
Cena borax. Indeed, I had like a
jaw dropping moment when I got
this particular clip. Thinking
what Did anybody go over the
script? Was this ad lib. I can't
believe they even let this
sensors like this bit go through
play it. So nice to meet Paul.
interesting guy.
Unknown: How much do you know
about him?
Well,
I lost a toe ring. And um, so I
say a lot. No, I mean, what he
does. They probably didn't
understand that. How
unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: I'm listening to
that. What they're trying
Adam Curry: to do it you know,
they're doing anything they can
to get ratings. How bad is it
when you have something like
that in your script? And no one
talks about it.
John C Dvorak: Nobody talks
about it. Nobody cares. Nobody
notices. What you say what can
we do? I don't know. Let's get
more weird.
Adam Curry: That show of course
is well known for also pushing
the agenda. They put gluten your
global warming stuff in there.
They're definitely on board with
the propaganda
John C Dvorak: but as Hollywood.
Yeah, you're in LA. I mean, that
whole the whole thing is out of
Hollywood. Yeah. So we got some
climate change clips. And we've
been sitting on Oh, yeah, do we
do let me play? Let's play what
my climate change one and two
and see what it says I can't
remember the spin these been in
the rundown for weeks on end.
Check
Adam Curry: it out. The ice caps
are melting. The polar bears are
dying. What is this from? Do you
know? No, I can't remember
Unknown: a recent study. It's
not Bret Michaels by any chance,
is it? No. He by Yale and George
Mason University's found that
56% of Americans don't trust
public figures like Al Gore and
Sarah Palin on climate change as
much as they do the local
weather forecaster.
And your seven day forecast will
show those showers and the
climate
change scientists are
scientists, they freely admit
they haven't always been
effective spokespeople for their
cause.
I plead guilty. I don't think
we've done the best job that we
could have done. Penn
State's Michael Mann is one of
the scientists who last year had
his emails hacked. And quoted
worldwide by climate change
skeptics has
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this is
this was a knob getting wrapped
remembering this was either on
Nightline, or a something on PBS
and they were showing they were
getting they were they were
showing the difference between
the climatologists and the and
and the weather guys, the the
meteorologists and the debate.
And it was it was a very
interesting debate, because the
meteorologists made a lot more
sense than these other guys who
are just all in. I don't know,
like climate change, too. And I
think there's no
Unknown: serious debate within
the scientific community about
the reality of human caused
climate change and
debate. No, of course, there's
John C Dvorak: no debate. It's
funny, because you're on a show
where they're debating part
Unknown: of your job is to
convince all of us, isn't it?
I don't see my job is convincing
anybody of anything. I know, you
just have to believe what I say
I went to school dammit, to see
my job as a scientist of making
sure that the public discourse
is informed by an accurate
understanding of the science.
And that may be one reason that
doubting meteorologists have had
such a huge opening to convince
the public otherwise.
John C Dvorak: But then again,
that you know, I have a, you
know, I'm a ditch digging
meteorologist so that just a
Bachelor of Science,
Unknown: this is the biggest
forecast at the mall. And the
stakes are much higher. All
right. Now,
John C Dvorak: I think the
unfortunate I don't have the
notes on this anymore, but I did
a lot of research and we'll
probably bring it up in a future
show. But the in the 70s and you
can look this stuff up. The
science was in in all the
climatologist then, of course,
we're predicting global cooling,
except for one guy who
apparently has been with global
warming the whole time. And
there's another guy who's been
global cooling to this day, the
whole time. But for the most
part, it was always
climatologists that were
convinced that we're going to
have global cooling, it's going
to be the worst thing ever. And
there are huge articles in Time
Magazine and Newsweek. And it's
and it was the same and you'd
hear the pitch was exactly
Adam Curry: the same. Same
script. Exact same exact same
script. Yep.
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Adam Curry: Well, so
John C Dvorak: that's why our
Wikipedia page has been ruined
by this tour by characters Hu
RBA. So
Adam Curry: the global warming
weather are a true or not,
there's a lot of the people who
are claiming that this is
horrible and happening, and it's
all because of us is, are the
same people who stand to make a
lot of money. And we've talked
about this many times on the
show, we've shamed Al Gore for
his business dealings, and I'm
happy to see Investor's Business
Daily, which I would say is
reasonably well regarded.
John C Dvorak: No, absolutely.
In fact, horror, which is a huge
fan of that publication,
especially the weekend edition,
I guess. So
Adam Curry: here it is titled
The $10 trillion dollar climate
fraud. And it outlines exactly
what we've mentioned on this
show. In fact, I should probably
do a little
so what it starts right off,
well, senators from a froth over
Goldman Sachs and derivatives a
climate trading scheme being run
out of the Chicago Climate
Exchange would make birdie made
off blush, and his trail leads
to the White House is exactly
what we told you. Well, I just
did something really weird. I
tried to use my finger on the
screen of my Mac to scroll the
page. Whoa, that was strange.
Thinking it was an iPad. Lost in
the recent headlines is Al
Gore's appearance Monday in
Denver at the annual meeting of
Council of Foundations, an
association of the nation's
philanthropic leaders, and he
said Time's running out. We have
to get our act together, you
have a unique role in getting
our act together. And it goes
right on to say,
John C Dvorak: oh, find it. By
the way, do you find it odd?
That despite all the climate
gate, and the scandals and the
arguments that are legitimate by
lots of scientists, and I mean,
there's just an amazing number
of heavy hitters that have
thought this thing is something
bogus about it, and they want to
talk about it more, and they're
not convinced that this is just
it's as though there that says
no, nothing happened. Nothing is
happening. Right. We're
marching, marching, marching,
marching direction. Oh, yeah. Do
you find it odd? I mean, it's
almost like, you know, it's
almost like a little kid
covering his ears and going, I
Unknown: guess, my mom, my mom,
my
John C Dvorak: mama can hear
you, you know, kind of thing is,
um, it's almost reminds me of
that extreme.
Adam Curry: You have a John,
when you have Bret Michaels?
Possibly not appearing on the
final Live episodes of Celebrity
Apprentice, how can you even be
bothered with any of this? So
this just going back to, to this
Gore thing, and I love that
Investor's Business Daily, a
very serious publication. And
yeah, you're right. Let's see if
anyone jumps on this. Of course
they won't, because the whole
thing is a scam. And everyone,
everyone everybody wants in on
it. He set up the Chicago
Climate Exchange, which is now
part, which was this guy named
Sandor. I mean, we went through
all of this stuff, who, by the
way, is the guy that claims the
climate trading of carbon
credits could be a $10 trillion
market, which is why everyone's
shutting up about it. They're
like, Hey, how can I get in? But
what you need to know is that
the client, the Chicago Climate
Exchange, was set up with grant
money from the Joyce Foundation.
And on the board of the Joyce
Foundation was Barack Obama.
John C Dvorak: What Oh, really?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: we talked about this
on the show. He's all in your
tone. Of course, he's all in. So
this is zero. So everybody's in
on the scam.
John C Dvorak: And it's a form
of taxation.
Adam Curry: But will the cap and
trade will be but then another
thing that wasn't even
John C Dvorak: trained keeps
marching forward. How can that
happen? Well, they've changed it
to
Adam Curry: remove pollution.
But then on Friday, and I'm sure
you didn't see this reported.
Atlanta based cm e group, has
agreed to pay $604 million for
Climate Exchange PLC. This is a
London based operator of the
Chicago Climate Exchange and
Chicago Climate futures exchange
$604 million dollars. The
combination of climate exchanges
and mission markets and ICE
Futures and OTC energy markets
is an important and logical
strategic combination. So what
they've done is they've seen
that the heat is on right the
sea Oh my God, I am shit man.
You know, the heat is on and all
this and everyone's looking into
Gore's investments. And, you
know, and yes, there's a number
of go ex Goldman guys who are
we've built this trading
company. So now they're gonna
hide it in another group, and
they've just folded it in. And
it's going to be harder to
track. You know, we won't be
able to point to the evil owl
because he'll be on the outside
of it all. And this gets no
play. not a small deal. By the
way, more than half a billion
dollars for something that
doesn't even work
John C Dvorak: yet? Yeah, that's
pretty amazing. That's expensive
just based
Adam Curry: upon future possible
revenues. And this is the
trading desk by these. This is
like the the it's like a
computer like a PC, like a big
ass computer that they paid a
lot of money for.
Unknown: The global warming is
happening and humans are the
cause. There's not another side
of the issue. And
Adam Curry: it turns out this
guy doesn't believe in peak oil.
This whole drone guy, in fact,
he's come out as a staunch
opponent of peak oil. And what's
interesting, well, it is
interesting for a number of
reasons. So I go back and forth
with our with our friend. And
two things come up. Number one,
they program all these climate
models in Fortran, which is kind
of funny, but it's like a step
by step below COBOL. And guess
what's going to happen next year
when their new computers are
supposed to come in? Guess
what's going to be in there?
What IBM Watson, of course, see,
this is this is how the this is
how the propaganda works. First,
you show that this thing can't
be wrong. This thing is awesome.
It wins Jeopardy. It's
fantastic. You got to love IBM
Watson. It has a personality, it
talks to you. It's fantastic.
And now it is going it's going
to actually come out and say I
have predicted that climate
change is real. You must be
careful humans, we must reduce
our greenhouse gas emissions by
83%. By 2050. Final Jeopardy
answer is I guarantee you this
is going to happen. Watson will
be on television talking to us
about climate change, because no
one believes the politicians but
Watson I mean, how can you how
can you argue with the Jeopardy
winner? Let's be honest. So IBM
is up for the contracts for the
new climate change computers.
That's number one. And I have a
tip, I have a tip for everybody.
If you are in a conversation, we
should put this in one of our
emails, John, if you agree with
it, if you and I verified this
with our insider. Peak Oil, of
course, is perpendicular to
greenhouse gas emission
reductions, because and I think
that most people who believe in
manmade climate change, the
climate is changing, no doubt
about it. But we've got the sun
exploding, all kinds of stuff
happening right now. But if you
are in a conversation with
someone, there's a 95% chance
they also believe in peak oil.
So this is how you trap them.
You say, can you believe that?
We're responsible for all this
climate change? Yes. You believe
in peak oil? Yes. Well, then we
don't have to worry do we? Could
we just run out of oil and then
we'll have no problem? That's a
good one. Seriously, it's like
you don't know. I like it. This
is why I can This is why hold on
is against it. Because he knows
that and they're always really
quiet about it. You never hear
people yelling, hooting and
hollering about peak oil.
Because this is logical
inconsistency
John C Dvorak: is he's actually
exactly what he has assumed. God
What are we gonna do about this
one? Yeah, but isn't
Adam Curry: it beautiful? You
just say hey, do you believe and
I guarantee you people who
believe in manmade
John C Dvorak: You're right. Is
this the same mentality? Yep.
The mentality is that everything
we do is screwed up. Because
we're humans and we're you know
wrecking the place because we're
just bad people who are burned
Adam Curry: out weren't enough
fossil fuels tell us you know
what we don't that problem
solved peak oil will run out of
oil Hey, we may have to walk we
may not we unless we figure out
battery technology. But we won't
have to worry about greenhouse
gas emissions because we won't
have anything to burn now we'll
wait and watch people go because
it freezes your brain and this
holder and he's against it of
course he is he's no
John C Dvorak: he's a little
late to get bringing up that
that's like a dip that's funny
because there's not going to
work because there's no way that
you can all of a sudden change
gears amongst the you know the
crowd with the climate change
crowd the warmest Yep, you can't
all of a sudden pull the plug on
their their very strong belief
about peak
Adam Curry: oil Exactly. That's
a good but as it comes to
John C Dvorak: that then that's
the winner for the show as it
comes
Adam Curry: to manmade global
warming which means because of
our cars and all the oil we're
burning at evil oil evil oil
because of that, we're all going
to die so we have to reduce that
well with peak oil. Great
problem solved. Ah, good to hear
peak oil again.
John C Dvorak: Oh peak oil we
forgot all about P we're having
a peak oil What a crock
Adam Curry: never pigs after we
said hey, peak oil you know, the
problem solved no more climate
change after the oil runs out.
They all went oh though. There's
no agenda. There's no agenda
boys around to us. You gotta
stop. Well, if anyone has any
ideas for a global warming
special after you do the climate
change, or whatever else you can
come up with. Being at.io is a
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And I'm looking forward to
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Region number six in the
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John C Dvorak: I'm from Northern
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I'm John C. Dvorak.
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