Cover for No Agenda Show 1665: Flag Gate
June 2nd • 3h 47m

1665: Flag Gate

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John C Dvorak: Take my potholes.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
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Adam Curry: second 2020 for this award winning combination media
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assassination episode 1665. This is no agenda, reclaiming the
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rainbow and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Old
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Country right here and FEMA Region number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where I see the liberal
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media is calling Trump a convicted felon, by their own
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standards shouldn't be calling him a justice in pacted.
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Individual, I'm John C. Dvorak kill them. for
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Adam Curry: about 16 years, it's been the same length of opening.
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Somehow you manage to overstep your boundary. I did. And I knew
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it too. All right. Happens all the time. happens to the best
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podcasters Yeah. Yeah, you may step up on that mic. You know,
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you're back in the back of the back room talking to the mic,
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man. Come on, man. Talk to that mic.
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John C Dvorak: Rather mumble in the background.
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Adam Curry: That's your exit strategy mumbling in the
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background. Sounds perfect. I think if I may make a
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programming suggestion. Yes. I suggest since this all went down
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at the end of 1664. On Thursday on the show today, of course, we
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could have known perhaps we kick today off with a three by three.
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John C Dvorak: I think that's a great idea. Now it's
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Unknown: done both three by three. It's very recommend five
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juicy work, comparing stories from ABC, CBS.
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Adam Curry: It also makes people real happy when they hear that
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jingle. Everyone's just like, I don't care what comes after
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that. The jingle just makes them happy. It's like the opposite of
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African news. And everyone, everyone.
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John C Dvorak: Which I have 40 had African you. Yes, we do.
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Fair warning
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Adam Curry: of African news. Not a lot. But we do have some we
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got some African news. Yeah. All right. So I'm just guessing.
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This is about Trump.
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John C Dvorak: Trump. Yeah, of course, the three by three and
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of course, the main stream cables. Nobody listens to that.
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They all had no God over Trump getting found guilty, but it was
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a foregone conclusion, according to most of the experts. And now
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it gives away something to complain about. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: thank goodness.
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John C Dvorak: So let's start with ABC.
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Unknown: Tonight. Former President Donald Trump defiant
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arriving home at Trump Tower after being found guilty as
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charged of all 34 counts of falsifying business records.
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Trump now a convicted felon, the historic verdict coming after
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nearly 10 hours of deliberations, a unanimous jury
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of 12 New Yorkers made trump the first president in history to be
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a convicted criminal former president then marching out of
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the courtroom with his lawyer Todd Blanche by his side
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this was a disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be
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November 5 by the people and outside court.
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Cheers could be heard in the crowd as
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news of Trump's convictions sprint.
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trial lasting seven weeks 22 Witnesses taking the stand
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including Trump's former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen, who
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Trump's defense team called the greatest liar of all time. Judge
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one Rashaan thanked the jury for their handling of a very
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stressful and difficult task saying you're excused with the
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gratitude of the court court dismissed the sentencing date
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for Donald Trump, July 11, just four days before the Republican
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National Convention.
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Adam Curry: Wow. Well, well, I love us naming some key words
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some key words. A fixer, I always love that term fixer
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fixer. They just throw that in there without evidence. Fix it.
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When did he fix? Not much he didn't do a very good job of
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fifth what kind of fix her is that? He can't even had a good
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one can't even fix up a pornstar.
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John C Dvorak: Now Yeah, but that $150,000 I should point
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out, pales in comparison to the $850,000 that Bill Clinton paid
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out to Paula Jones.
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's what about is a man what he's doing.
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It's what about ism.
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John C Dvorak: But nothing happened there.
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Adam Curry: Do you remember what Jim Don't you remember when?
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When Trump brought to the to the debate he brought all those
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women that had accused Bill Clinton
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John C Dvorak: didn't i Yes, that was that was I remember
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that. Another Grace done? Good times. Where's
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Adam Curry: that? Where's the liquid back to those days? That
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seems like awesome times now compared to this. Okay,
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John C Dvorak: let's go to ABC tonight. We just did a I'm
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sorry. NBC. NBC tonight
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Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found guilty convicted by
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a Manhattan I'm
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Adam Curry: surprised that no One had like a hammer clunk.
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That would have been a great sound effects
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John C Dvorak: for a net pop of a hammer. A gavel, a gavel? Yes.
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A
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Adam Curry: gavel should have been a gavel in there. Where's
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my
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John C Dvorak: gavel here? I never use it as a sound effect.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, give us a gavel sound effect let
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John C Dvorak: me play it that's what it sounds like
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Adam Curry: very underwhelmed very underwhelming Wait me
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didn't we have Maxine Waters gravel? Let me have that. And we
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have Kunal, we
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John C Dvorak: have any sound effects. I don't think we have
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yet to get gaveled in Sonic good. Oh, wait needs an echo
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versus large.
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Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get here.
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Unknown: Tonight FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP found
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guilty convicted by a Manhattan jury of all charges. Now the
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first American president ever convicted of a crime. Jurors
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Finding Mr. Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying his
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business records to cover up a conspiracy to influence the 2016
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election by hiding how we reimbursed his former fixer for
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paying off a porn star before the election. Cohen's
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credibility in this case was key. The defense team branding,
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the now disbarred lawyer, who had been convicted of lying
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under oath as the MVP of liars with an axe to grind against Mr.
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Trump, while Prosecutors argued Mr. Trump chose Mr. Cohen for
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the same qualities that his attorneys now urge you to reject
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his testimony. Mr. Trump, who did not testify reacting to the
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verdict tonight, attacking the case as politically motivated by
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a democratic da in deep blue Manhattan. There's
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a rig trial a disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change.
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We were at 5% or 6%. In this district in this area. This was
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a rigged disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be
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November 5 by the people and they know what happens outside
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of court. Boos and cheers
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Adam Curry: boos and cheers should have been cheers and
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cheers. I don't know why they didn't. Cheers.
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John C Dvorak: Well, no, I think it's possible they were booing
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Trump. How about that? Okay. Okay, so both these reports are
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almost identical. Ah, let's see what the more creative network
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Yes,
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Adam Curry: always the creative with the CIA broadcasting
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systems. CIA,
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John C Dvorak: CBS,
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Unknown: the seven men and five women of the jury decided Donald
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Trump's fade in just over 11 hours. This was a disgrace in
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Raging a former president who said the real decision will come
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in November the real
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verdict is going to be November 5 by the people.
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Adam Curry: I just want to stop this for a second because
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they're very interesting observation from net net in the
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troll room. Why didn't anyone get any good audio from Trump? I
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mean, was the worst audio
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John C Dvorak: it's a good question.
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Adam Curry: You know, it's like it also.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, Echo is so cleaned it up. Do you know how
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to do that? Yeah, they got
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Adam Curry: Adobe. I mean, come on people, enraging
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Unknown: a former president who said the real decision will come
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in November. The real
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verdict is going to be November 5 by the people
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judge one Marshawn announced he will jump on July 11. Four days
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before the Republican National Convention. He faces up to four
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years in prison but could be given probation with no jail
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time, Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying records
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to cover up his alleged sexual encounter with stormy Daniels
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during his presidential run in 2016. The jury perhaps swayed by
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the prosecution's key witness, former Trump Attorney Michael
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Cohen, who offered crucial testimony that directly
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implicated Trump and falsifying the $130,000 payment. The
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defense tried to portray Cohen as untrustworthy Trump's lead
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attorney calling him the MVP of liars in closing arguments.
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Tonight District Attorney Alvin Bragg who brought the case
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against Trump responded,
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while this defendant may be unlike any other in American
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history, we arrived at this trial. And ultimately today at
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this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes
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to the courtroom doors, yeah. rigged by following the facts
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and the law and doing so without fear or favor.
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Adam Curry: No, there's the fear or favor line. Yeah, that's
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pretty they pretty much use fear
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John C Dvorak: or favor constantly in his press
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conference. There
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Adam Curry: were several odd responses to this from from the
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media, which I think we warrant some deconstruction here and
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there to go to the to the most watched and the most outrageous.
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This from the joy Reid show, the
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Unknown: only other president who faced even this possibility
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was Richard Nixon. And you said I heard you earlier on today
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saying he had the dignity to walk away. And you know, it's
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hard to say anything nice about Richard Nixon. But in the end,
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he was a greater Patriot on any given day of the week than Trump
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is all week long.
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By far, he tried to change our democracy. But for instance, at
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the beginning of Watergate, April 30 of 1973, he gave a TV
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speech in which he talked about the judge that was sending some
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of his people, ultimately to prison, John Sirica, calls him a
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courageous judge. He praises the jury, he praises the
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prosecutors. And he says to Americans, this is so
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interesting. We must have faith in our legal system, because,
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you know, that is the essence of America. It's exactly the
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diametrical opposite of Donald Trump.
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And Donald Trump is the only one in American history of all these
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presidents who has ever basically insulted our system in
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the way that we're hearing him do.
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Adam Curry: So weird to bring in Richard Nixon, especially when
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he
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John C Dvorak: is what he's really remembered for wasn't
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anything those two jerk said. It was for his saying, I am not a
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crook. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: exactly. So well, there was I have an even weirder
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one. Which came that is
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John C Dvorak: weird, by the way. We ever thought of it as
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weird, but you're right. Well, MSNBC
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Adam Curry: got the weirdo award for this. Here's the morning
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Joe's show with Willie Geist, not
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Unknown: much has changed. In terms of Trump's ability to run
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for president the Constitution has only three qualifications
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for somebody to campaign for the presidency. None of them
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mentioned felony convictions. This is not the first time in
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American history someone found guilty and then ran for the
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White House in 1920. Eugene Debs campaign from a prison cell in
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Atlanta as the Socialist Party of America nominee after being
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found guilty of sedition. Trump also likely well,
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Adam Curry: I like what you're bringing out Eugene Debs.
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John C Dvorak: That's interesting for a couple of
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reasons. One is Eugene Debs. If you go back and he
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Adam Curry: was a commie, he was a commie. He
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John C Dvorak: was the.he. He was a he was a commie. But he
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would he is to this day, the darling of the progressive left.
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Yes, this
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Adam Curry: is what I don't get.
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John C Dvorak: I mean, if you bring up anything about Eugene
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Debs, and you put it in context, and you use him as an example of
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anything, you will be adored by the extreme left. Well, because
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Eugene Debs was a hero mean shot you right? Idiotic I don't know
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what they're thinking well, well, a
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Adam Curry: memo went out apparently about Mean Gene
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because Mark Raphel Mean Gene damn Mean Gene Debs everybody.
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Mark Raffaello. You know, the actor calling on climate change
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trans Maoism, etc etc. He decided to breed a piece of mean
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jeans famous Canton, Ohio speech. Listen to this and then
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tell me how what is going on with these people. On
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Unknown: June 18 1918. He addressed a mass rally of
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workers in Ohio, knowing that his words could lead as they did
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to his arrest and imprisonment. His sentence of 10 years was
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upheld by unanimous Supreme Court decision. Here's the
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speech that led to his arrest. Here
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Adam Curry: comes garrafa I mean Raffaello. Sam
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Unknown: Johnson declared that patriotism is the last refuge of
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the scoundrel. He must have had the Wall Street Gentry in mind,
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or at least their prototypes. For in every age has been the
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tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who is wrapped himself
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in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both. To deceive
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and over all the people. Every solitary one of these
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aristocratic conspirators in would be murderers, claims to be
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an arch patriot. Every one of them insists that the war is
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being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug
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rot what false pretense?
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Adam Curry: I'd never really considered Mean Gene in this
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context at all.
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John C Dvorak: Very odd, but the fact that they dredged him up to
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RE end to read that speech is either for cognition cognitive
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dissonance, dissonance, possibly because what he's saying is
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could be played either side of the of this argument could apply
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to Trump one way or the other Trump's the anti war
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Adam Curry: and democracy thing because that's that's what the
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Democrats are always talking about democracy, democracy.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, this is peculiar. This could be this
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could be a, some sort of an OP. There
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Adam Curry: it is. I should have known. I'm sorry, I don't have
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to do it to you. Just for one moment here
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Unknown: at the tone. A clip from the view will be played.
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Oh, John place.
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He was in that courtroom because of what he did. Right. Yeah. And
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those jurors were chosen by
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both sides. Yes, they were right. Not really convicted here
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in New York, because New York brought him to trial. This was
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not a Biden thing. This was had he had he just paid the money.
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He'd have been fine. If he had to sneak some text and stuff
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around. You either been fine, but he didn't do that. Instead,
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he was cheap. And that's what you get. So he so can I say what
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was your reaction? Well, my reaction was I was at Costco
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buying in 10 boxes of Keurig coffee. And my my, my watch
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started to buzz and I got so excited. I started leaking.
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Adam Curry: I mean, do what's up with that?
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John C Dvorak: Very got worse. I'm glad you got that clip.
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Adam Curry: I'm not I'm sad. I'm
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John C Dvorak: very it's like it's what is she talking about?
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He could have just paid the fine or whatever that was that I
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don't understand what what then what fine.
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Adam Curry: Will be wasn't even speaking English in that
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segment. Yeah. By the way, she
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John C Dvorak: seemed plastered possible. She did. She said,
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plastered.
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Adam Curry: What's interesting,
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John C Dvorak: I believe she might have been because I think
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all of them are drinking, you know, toasting to this. This is
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pathetic. And
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Adam Curry: this is what Chuck Todd. Who is he? Isn't he gone?
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John C Dvorak: What is he supposed to be keeps
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Adam Curry: coming back on Meet the Press judge Chuck Chuck Todd
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cast. And he's warning he's shaking his finger. The campaign
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Unknown: that's talking about the trial is losing. Okay. The
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more you talk about this trial, the more you're losing with the
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voters, you need to win. Why do I say that? First of all,
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there's plenty of evidence to back this up. I'll can take you
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back to the Bill Clinton impeachment in 1988. Republicans
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thought for sure running against Monica Lewinsky was going to be
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a winner for them. It was not voters were like, guess what we
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knew in our lives. Not only that, we already knew this about
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Bill Clinton. We factored his character into our decision to
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vote from an agent ID to Access Hollywood tape. Everybody's
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going How can Republicans be rallying around Trump so easily
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this time? Well, speak a little bit once shame on you. Right.
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Will you twice? Well Access Hollywood take the Republican
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Party walked away from him, but it voters did. And and that's
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why I think this trial is not going to have an impact. Because
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for the same reason, the Clinton impeachment had no impact.
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Voters knew Trump's moral failings before and they voted
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for him anyway. People would even say it, you heard it in
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some of that sound that Chuck had. So I think this is I think
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if you're relying on this, whether you're Trump and think
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it's a grievance thing is a good idea. You're going to turn off
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the middle. And if you're Biden, and you run on too much, you
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celebrate too much. Look, this is a sad day for America. Hard
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stop. There isn't shouldn't be any celebrate. If you're
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celebrating. You're part of the problem. Do
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Adam Curry: chip, Chuck target and Maddie up? That was weird.
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You're part of the well, this goes
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John C Dvorak: through just to interrupt that flow. So they
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were replaying, I didn't see it when they ran it. But that Trump
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went on to Fox and Friends and they were replaying it this
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morning on Fox now that 24 hour streamer. Yeah. And I was
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watching it when I had other things to do. But just Trump is
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mesmerizing, when he's going on and on and on about whatever. He
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is unbelievably good at talking. And you just don't realize it
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until sometimes he sits down with the right crew and and when
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he had three people instead of just one on one, so he could
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cajole three different people. It was dynamite.
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Adam Curry: What I found interesting is they so of course
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they Trump comes out with an ad and I guess he raised a lot of
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money is that verified like $53 million. That a verified number
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John C Dvorak: that I've heard that number, but the number that
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I think is accurate is 436. That's which is still a lot of
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money, but they backed it off to say 34. So they can say the
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following. Oh, one for each count. There you go. But that's
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machinery. Without
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Adam Curry: a doubt there are enough people in America, just
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Americans who feel that the in general the Justice Department
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is out of control. I mean, even just looking at them the FBI as
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a part of the Justice Department, how they will go
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find some weak minded brother who's talking some jihadist
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smack going
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John C Dvorak: on for how many that started during what Obama
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or before? Yeah oh
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Adam Curry: yeah the six weeks like now I think we first start
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talking well no really we probably started talking about
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yeah 14 years ago yeah, um, then they instead of like hey hey
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Sauron sit down stop doing that nonsense we got our eye on you
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know, instead, they start to sigh off and yeah, jihad is
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good. Yeah, take this big this brush, just press this button.
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And then he goes to press the button and nothing happens they
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they SWAT him and then we save to save you again America. You
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know that kind of nonsense is happening all over the place. We
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know people who've gone to jail over nonsense. Yes, we do know
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so. And then. So just kind of to go on the theory that they
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really really want him to win the new Magga ad which is
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actually says over a minute and a half. What's the bill Barr is
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all over it and all these people who distance themselves from
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him. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: they stat and also stabbed Trump in the back
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at one time or another. Thank you for joining us here today.
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Unknown: Earlier this afternoon, Donald Trump was arraigned by a
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Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts.
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This case is an abomination. It's obviously political seven
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years to try to come up with this case. They're just wrong
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on the law. The only crime that Donald Trump is being prosecuted
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for is the crime of running for president political persecution
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at the highest level. They've quite frankly given up on trying
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to beat him at the polls either going to steal it or stop it by
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law for
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a democratic prosecutor elected on a get Trump platform. What's
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going on
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here is a disgusting disgrace. It is war on slide 11. It is
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more on the Republican Party. The Republicans this case is the
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weakest case. I've seen in six years of teaching, practicing
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and writing about criminal law. I doubt the New York indictment
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would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not
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Donald Trump this
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judge I mean, you don't need a prosecutor. If you have a judge
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like this. This judge is not on the level. It's
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a terrible case. But the judge has been pretty much a rubber
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stamp on everything that Greg has wanted to do.
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They've they're perverting the system of justice. That's where
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the danger lies. The corruption and subversion of our
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institutions by the lack of
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this is the Democrats entire strategy to confine President
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Trump to a dirty criminal courtroom and keep him off the
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campaign trail where he can bring his winning message to
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voters across this country.
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New York has become a legal Banana Republic. They are so
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determined to get Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
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I think they have no cards,
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Adam Curry: and they're depending upon Trump getting
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convicted that Trump train doesn't show any signs of
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slowing down. The only verdict that matters. Is the verdict at
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the ballot box. Man, so it's bombastic. It's like hitting me
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in the face with a wet salmon like
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John C Dvorak: and Bill Barr has always been considered the CIA's
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man. Totally. So he is not saying this. And the Epstein man
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his own? No,
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Adam Curry: no. So now, it's also I mean, I'm just looking at
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all the different possibilities here. Because of course, it's
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not like one Democrat party. It's not like one deep state
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that all want the same thing. This is obvious that joy, joy
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Bay heart, you know, she's leaky. So no, she, she's happy
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that Trump is going to jail she thinks, which is seems unlikely,
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although I still think an ankle monitor will be a cool thing to
23:44
do. Because yeah, he does this before everybody will be wearing
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ankle monitors everyone, everybody everywhere fashion
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statement as we Hey, exit strategy.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, go now you're thinking now you're
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thinking? Yeah,
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Adam Curry: we got it. We got to order them now. And I'm sure we
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can get them from some Chinese outfit. There. Yeah, there are
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some other Okay, before we get to that. The worst possible
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outcome? Is that everybody? It's amazing how many people like,
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you know, we can't have this, we gotta be okay, we'll just hold
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our nose. There's got to be Trump, because everything else
24:24
is unhinged. And if they somehow managed to cheat, and if Trump
24:30
doesn't win, then we we fall into I think we fall into a real
24:35
crisis. And that may be the plan. You might be right, these
24:40
people are crazy. And we know that the media really calls the
24:45
Presidents they call the election. They did it with
24:48
Arizona last time.
24:50
John C Dvorak: So that was Fox I might add. Yep.
24:53
Adam Curry: Run by Democrats. So that would be the worst possible
24:57
outcome. This listen Rudnick Peter zei haan you know spook
25:04
from strat for and Austin sky is very annoying with his ponytail
25:10
and his beard he's he's ever you know
25:13
John C Dvorak: that you know we haven't heard from him for a
25:15
while that guy used to do these long lectures and we debated
25:18
about where he stood on the on the spook scale whether he was a
25:22
actual spook or a spook want to be I still wonder whether he is
25:27
Adam Curry: he's been ostracized I think they don't want to be
25:29
Dum
25:33
Unknown: Dum Dum he's
25:35
Adam Curry: traveling because I'm sure he does he has a nice
25:38
little career for himself
25:40
John C Dvorak: now making good money
25:41
Adam Curry: yeah he popped up on Rogen and said all kinds of
25:44
things yeah we're still waiting for Bitcoin to go to zero Peters
25:46
ion no go to zero I tell
25:50
John C Dvorak: you zero everything will go to zero if
25:53
you wait long enough 1000 years from now I'm sure it will be
25:55
zero
25:56
Adam Curry: Yes. Well that's a strategy Hello Peter Schiff. The
26:05
crash is coming. So XyO man it is I Han is on his way to the
26:09
airport, I think in Singapore and of course, he has to do a
26:12
video about this because he's Peters ion. And it's only the
26:16
last 50 seconds that are just interesting. The audio is a
26:20
little choppy because of the I guess, you know, the wind and
26:23
the car noise but that gets better as we get into this 50
26:26
seconds and listen to his theory because as soon
26:30
Unknown: as the verdict came in, in Trump campaign headquarters
26:33
cheers erupted like we can totally fundraise off of this.
26:37
And in Biden election headquarters cheers erupted,
26:40
totally fundraise off of this. Everyone seems to have forgotten
26:44
the views at the 10% of the electorate who are independents
26:46
are just kind of nauseated by the whole thing. independents
26:50
have decided every presidential election since the early 1960s.
26:55
And they are not going to vote for somebody who now has 34
27:00
felonies under his belt. So as far as I'm concerned, this
27:04
product has decided the election or other reasons to think that
27:07
Trump was already in trouble. But this is really makes it
27:10
impossible for him to win.
27:16
Assuming of course, that Biden doesn't die.
27:21
Adam Curry: He's a weird dude, man. maniacal laugh.
27:26
John C Dvorak: That was weird. He got today's weird clip day
27:29
from you.
27:31
Adam Curry: And there's more coming. Now, do you think
27:34
there's any validity to that, that there's 10% independent
27:38
voters who won't vote for someone who has 34 felonies
27:41
under his belt?
27:43
John C Dvorak: No, I'm an independent voter.
27:45
Adam Curry: Yeah. I don't see it that way. No,
27:48
John C Dvorak: I'm beyond independent. I've gotten non
27:50
affiliated, yes,
27:51
Adam Curry: politically homeless. Here's NBC with a
27:55
little shorty about, about what Trump is saying. Then
27:58
Unknown: a laundry list of false claims, grudges and grievances,
28:02
including against the democratic prosecutor who won the case
28:05
against him counts.
28:06
It's a very sad thing that's happening in our country
28:09
John C Dvorak: to hold on Stop. How come? This isn't?
28:13
Adam Curry: I know, I know. I know. But I think this is this
28:18
is from Him. This isn't at the courthouse. This is at Trump
28:21
Tower, where he had control of the of the sound system.
28:25
John C Dvorak: It could be
28:26
Unknown: it's a very sad thing that's happening in our country.
28:29
And it's a it's a thing that I'm honored in a way I'm on it
28:34
because somebody has to do it. And I might as well keep going
28:37
and be the one. The
28:38
verdict galvanizing the GOP behind him the Trump campaign
28:42
saying they raised a massive $35 million online in the hours
28:46
after the conviction came down. And with Republicans rallying
28:49
around him, there's virtually no chance he'll be kicked off the
28:52
Presidential ticket
28:58
Adam Curry: NBC Meet the Press had
29:01
John C Dvorak: maybe he was already getting delegates. How's
29:04
he gonna get kicked off?
29:05
Adam Curry: They got nothing to say. This is the dying elite
29:10
media network messaging network. This is nothing they get nothing
29:14
but this was kind of an interesting exchange. Republican
29:19
Representative Byron Donalds.
29:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he has been doing a lot of talk and he
29:26
really is angling for the vice president slob.
29:29
Adam Curry: That's what it is, of course. Well, the
29:31
Subcommittee on what is it? That Oh, they have a subcommittee on
29:36
the weaponization of government. Wow, that you might as well just
29:40
shut it all down and talk about that all day, because that seems
29:43
to be the only thing that's happening what
29:44
Unknown: President Trump's allies are rallying to his
29:46
defense after yesterday's historic guilty verdict and now
29:49
the Republican led House Subcommittee on the
29:51
weaponization of government is requesting the Manhattan
29:55
district attorney Alvin Bragg and the prosecutor there Matthew
29:58
Co. Angelo to testify but For the committee and joining me now
30:01
is Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds
30:04
because you got to understand and let's be real about this,
30:07
the entire reason why these charges were brought now why
30:10
this case was brought now was to interfere with the 2024
30:13
presidential election. It was to interfere it was to trap Donald
30:17
Trump in a courtroom. Well, that's the entire thing,
30:21
obviously. Are you gonna let me finish? Are you gonna talk over
30:23
me? You gotta I just wanted to talk. Okay, let me talk. Here's
30:27
the deal. Everybody knows that the appeals process is gonna go
30:31
well into 2025. After the election is over, say what you
30:35
will about the merits of the case. We have never in American
30:39
history had prosecutions of the leading presidential candidate
30:43
of any major party in the United States. This has never happened.
30:47
So much so that Maine justice, their own of their own protocols
30:51
are that they don't do this in the heat of a presidential
30:54
election. But what we have seen out of the Department of Justice
30:57
led by Merrick Garland out of Alvin Bragg in lower Manhattan
31:00
on a fanny Willis in Georgia is that they do not care about the
31:03
norms of our elections. They just wasn't committee does have
31:09
a responsibility to investigate, you
31:11
Adam Curry: know, jump for the fact that NBC is letting him on
31:15
and is highlighting him again it just all seems to point toward
31:19
Yeah, yeah, let's let's put these messages in people's
31:22
heads. I'm sure NBC Meet the Press is not trying to be fair
31:26
and balanced.
31:32
John C Dvorak: It's an interesting I mean, we have the
31:34
thesis that they're the word is out that put him in Yeah. But I
31:39
just don't see these guys. And that guy's argumentative in such
31:42
a way it's annoying, and you try to cut him off. It's possible
31:46
that that the upper echelon of the network, so you got to put
31:49
Byron on it makes to solidify his but I don't think this this
31:54
anchors part of the part of the plan. This case
31:57
Unknown: should have never brace. If he wins, just
32:02
Adam Curry: to be clear. Here's how the briefing went. All
32:05
right, we're gonna bring on Byron Donalds, he's gone for the
32:08
VP spot. You just got to just go in on a man go in on him. And
32:12
the guy of course is weak against Donald this. Donald's
32:14
guys pretty good.
32:16
John C Dvorak: Oh, he's always been good. I've always thought
32:18
he'd make a great Vice President for a number of reasons. But the
32:23
one thing that's interesting is that he's not in the in the
32:26
running in terms of the top four or the betting odds. He's down
32:31
like 50 to one or something along those lines. But I've
32:34
always thought, but ever since those betting odds first came
32:37
out, which include man, Nikki Haley, which will be the day
32:42
Adam Curry: she was on there for a while.
32:44
John C Dvorak: I always thought that Donald all of a sudden
32:46
starts showing up a lot like he got a publicist or some buddies
32:49
bugging him, because he's showing up a lot more than he
32:53
should. unless something's going on. Well, let's continue. Oh, my
32:57
Unknown: gosh, are you gonna let me talk? Let me answer your
32:59
question. You are talking about a federal crime that has never
33:03
that has never been never actually decided by the Federal
33:06
Election Commission. They looked into this and they said, there's
33:09
nothing to see here. Alvin Bragg pulls it up as a state
33:13
prosecutor outside of his jurisdiction, and ties in some
33:17
bookmaking charge was no longer allowed to be utilized in state
33:21
court, all to twist it together in a legal theory to get felony
33:24
convictions. Come on, man, this case is a joke. You know it. I
33:28
know what the American people know. Come
33:30
Adam Curry: on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.
33:33
I find a final clip.
33:34
Unknown: Let me ask you about your Republican colleague, JD
33:36
Vance. He suggested that the daughter of Judge one version
33:38
should be subpoenaed. Should family members of public
33:41
officials be considered fair game? Congressman, if you're
33:46
talking about the fact that the daughter of Judge Marshawn is
33:50
making millions of dollars helping Democrats raise money
33:53
online, and then that very fact has caused her dad to have a
33:58
vested interest in in supporting a conviction of President Trump,
34:01
that yes, she should, because her influence with her father is
34:06
one of the core reasons why I believe this case is going to be
34:09
overturned and says one more shot under New York not under
34:12
New York State ethics should have recused himself because he
34:16
has a bias against Donald Trump. And to be clear by that same
34:18
logic, then isn't the backlash against justices Alito and
34:21
Clarence Thomas for the actions of their wives? Reasonable? No,
34:26
it does not. And you know better than that. You're allowed to fly
34:28
a flag, like you're allowed to speak your mind. That does not
34:31
mean that the judge has all of a sudden is tainted, but when the
34:34
family is making money off of the actual trial that Judge
34:38
Marshawn is dealing with right now. That is an ethical issue,
34:42
and he should have recused himself before the trial even
34:44
started.
34:46
Adam Curry: Did let him talk about letting him say a lot of
34:49
things. Well,
34:51
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you this. I have a couple of clips
34:54
here about Alito. Oh,
34:57
Adam Curry: I have some clips too, but I'll let you leave
35:00
These
35:00
John C Dvorak: are the ones I promised on the last show. Good
35:03
because this woman Kathleen Clark comes on PBS newshour to
35:07
discuss a Lido and well, let's just play him in and I will
35:12
discuss what's what's going on here.
35:15
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS.
35:21
Still to come on the news our Supreme Court Justice Samuel
35:25
Alito rejects calls to recuse himself from January 6 related
35:29
cases. Despite a flag controversy, US Supreme Court
35:32
Justice Samuel Alito told lawmakers today he won't recuse
35:36
himself from cases involving the 2020 presidential election or
35:40
the January 6 Capital riot. That's despite concerns about
35:43
two flags associated with far right causes that have flown
35:47
over his properties. Responding to demands from Democrats that
35:51
he disqualify himself, Alito said in two letters that his
35:54
wife, Martha and Alito was responsible for flying the
35:57
flags. My wife is an independently minded private
36:01
citizen, the Justice wrote, she makes her own decisions, and I
36:04
honor her right to do so. Kathleen Clark is with us. She's
36:07
a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis. And she
36:11
specializes in government ethics. Thanks for being with
36:13
us. So the New York Times reported that there was this
36:15
upside down American flag display that Alito is Virginia
36:19
home in the days before President Biden's inauguration.
36:23
And in the letter that he issued today, the Justice said he had
36:26
nothing whatsoever to do with the flag. He was not aware of
36:29
it. When he became aware of it. He asked his wife to take it
36:32
down. But she refused for several days. And he says my
36:36
wife and I own our Virginia home jointly, she therefore has the
36:39
legal right to use the property as she sees fit. Is that an
36:43
adequate explanation from an ethics perspective? No,
36:46
it is not. Justice Alito is accurate in saying that his wife
36:52
has a legal right to display a flag in front of a house that
36:56
she co owns with him. No one's questioning her legal rights.
37:01
The issue is whether he needs to recuse once it has become clear
37:07
that his you know, this, this, this flag associated with the
37:12
January 6 insurrection was displayed in front of a house he
37:18
co owns.
37:19
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna stop right here for a second. This
37:22
association thing that they're pulling is horse crap. You can't
37:27
take you know, two, four years of history and say, Oh, that's
37:31
that's what the flags about when both of these flags are about
37:35
very different things. The orange, I don't
37:37
John C Dvorak: remember seeing either of those flags at the
37:39
insurrection. In fact, you saw mostly Trump flags and American
37:43
flags in the US, you know, set up properly. So there's the
37:46
American flag representative of this too. And
37:49
Adam Curry: even if even if I'm flying my flag upside down on
37:52
July 4, it doesn't mean that I'm an insurrectionists. It means I
37:56
feel our country is in distress, if you want to fly that and
38:00
there were some pine tree flags, which but but they what they've
38:04
determined now, they they the elites have determined that this
38:10
is associated therefore even just an American flag. This is
38:14
happening right now in Taylor, Texas, where the Austin LGBTQ
38:20
plus crowd came in. And some poor woman the Christmas parade
38:25
two years ago at the city hall townhall saw a request for a
38:33
Taylor pride float and went okay, is it Taylor pride way to
38:36
go we're prideful of Taylor. And then they threw some Austin What
38:42
do you call them? The transvestites? The? The word? I
38:48
don't know. Yeah. The from the story. Our
38:51
John C Dvorak: Oh, the drag queens, Queens?
38:52
Adam Curry: Yes. So they threw some Austin drag queens on that
38:55
flow night. And then the cut. And then the churches as they
39:00
call them. The church, you could have a lot of people from like
39:02
the churches, a lot of people from Austin and moving out, you
39:06
know, moving out to places moving out Taylor's, like 45
39:10
minutes above Austin. And so they will order the churches.
39:14
Oh, of course, the churches have been in this town for, you know,
39:18
several 100 years. And now it's gotten to the point where you
39:23
have and there's not a lot of restaurants in Taylor's very
39:25
small. You'd have you know, there's a restaurant that will
39:29
fly the LGBTQ pride flag and no one goes in from the churches.
39:33
But then you have an American flag, just an American flag on
39:37
your restaurant. And none of the none of the newcomers will will
39:42
go in. It's like this flag thing. Flags are important, but
39:47
the American flag is the American flag. The appeal to
39:50
heaven flags the appeal to have been flagged that has nothing to
39:53
do with with January 6, other than the the news of people here
40:00
saying it's odd, because clearly associated, you must recuse is
40:04
your recuse. So you can't do anything with Chevron deference.
40:08
John C Dvorak: That's really what this is about a debate at
40:10
the base level. But there's another little subtext here,
40:14
which nobody seems to pick up on, especially at PBS. And I
40:18
even after the second clip, I will explain something about
40:21
this woman is that she and PBS all demand that that Alito, his
40:27
wife obey Alito, like she's the slave woman that we're, you
40:31
know, the house, the house worker, whatever I use that term
40:35
I use housekeeper had a housekeeper and she's posted to
40:39
do what what the man
40:41
Adam Curry: says, yes, do what the man says stop it. Woman.
40:44
John C Dvorak: It's very clear when you listen to this
40:46
discussion that she's the one because she didn't do what the
40:50
husband said. I mean, I'm listening to this, listen to
40:55
these lefties pull this stunt. This is just as bad as the, you
41:00
know, cut not calling Trump justice impaired. I mean, it's
41:05
just make up your minds people. But okay, let's talk
41:09
Unknown: about his wife's first amendment rights. This is about
41:14
recusal obligations that Congress has imposed on justices
41:19
and judges.
41:21
Well, in his letter, he also addressed the more recent
41:24
reporting, by the times that there was this appeal to heaven
41:26
flag that flew at his beach home in New Jersey. This is a flag
41:30
that was also carried by January 6, rioters and in his letter, he
41:34
says, I was not familiar with the appeal to heaven flag when
41:37
my wife flew it, she may have mentioned that it dates back to
41:40
the American Revolution. And I assumed she was flying it to
41:43
express a religious and patriotic message. I was not
41:46
aware of any connection between this historic flag and the stop
41:50
the steel movement, and neither was my wife. She did not fly it
41:53
to associate herself with that or any other group. As I said,
41:56
in reference to the other flag event. My wife is an
41:58
independently minded private citizen, she makes her own
42:01
decisions, and I honor her right to do so our vacation home was
42:04
purchased with money she inherited from her parents, and
42:07
is titled in her name. It is a place away from Washington,
42:11
where she should be able to relax. Again, your assessment of
42:15
this explanation.
42:17
This is A Closer call if indeed, this is a home that Justice
42:22
Alito doesn't have any, you know, legal rights to if that is
42:26
the case. But again, the issue isn't just subjectively what was
42:32
injustice, Alito is mine. Congress mandate mind reader
42:37
justices, recused disqualify themselves if their impartiality
42:44
might reasonably be questioned. It's not enough to say that, you
42:50
know, as Justice Alito was, you know, ignorant. The question is
42:55
whether it's reasonable for people to question his
42:59
impartiality in these cases related to the January 6
43:05
insurrection.
43:10
John C Dvorak: All right, first of all, so I looked this woman
43:13
up on open secrets, and she's a donate or democrat party, and
43:20
I've got me without even going through, and it's very easy to
43:23
find her. She's in St. Louis, and she's a professor. And as
43:26
they list the in open secrets, they often list the profession.
43:30
And that was easy to find. And I only went through, there's 1000s
43:35
of Kathleen Clark's. And I only went to the after I got to the
43:39
third one, when she sent money to Claire McCaskill. I said,
43:44
Okay, I got three, that's enough. They're all Democrats
43:46
and she gets, so why didn't she recuse herself or even being on
43:50
PBS? And why does PBS only pull people? You know, there's no
43:53
object somebody like this. She's a Democrat. She's an obvious
43:57
Democrat. She's a plant. She's a stooge. And PBS pulled that
44:01
twice in that same show. The second thing they did in that
44:04
show, instead of trying to get any fair, they've given up on
44:07
fair and balanced. They brought on to discuss Republican
44:11
politics, that creep Joe Walsh, who was a one term, one term US
44:18
congressman, he was booted up by the Republicans because he they
44:22
think they primary primary dimout. And Joe Walsh comes on
44:26
and he's gonna give the he's going to tell us all about
44:29
Republican he's a one term US representative. He goes on and
44:33
about, about how the Republicans are screwed up because they're
44:36
not giving more credit to people like Adam Kinzinger. This is
44:40
actually what he said, Adam Kissinger, the crybaby and
44:44
Cheney. Whatever, I can't remember her first name. And he
44:54
goes on and on about how the Republicans are screwed up
44:56
because they're all dedicated to Trump. He's a Trump hater and
44:59
they Bring him on to give us a perspective from the Republican
45:03
side. This is bullcrap PBS just stinks. They have no intention
45:11
of giving us a balanced report. They're terrible. They should
45:15
nobody should be giving him money. The government shouldn't
45:17
be giving him money. And if anybody out there subscribes to
45:20
anything PBS does send us the money. John C
45:23
Unknown: to borax diva today.
45:28
John C Dvorak: Well, you told him actually have Yeah, it's
45:31
gonna do a lot of good. I have well got it off my chest.
45:35
Adam Curry: You did? You did I have. In this case, I have two.
45:41
Two clips regarding the flag game that why don't they call it
45:45
flag gate, who flag it and write it down. And by the way, this is
45:51
really detracting from my pride month. No one's talking about
45:55
our pride flags. saying like, no, there's like no pride
46:03
celebration right now. So here's Dick Durbin, who was on the I
46:11
think the Justice Committee. He's on some kind of justice
46:15
something. And of course he has to weigh in about this
46:18
impartiality of the judge. What can we do? There's got to be
46:21
something in the Constitution, can we do something can we do
46:23
something did them dig W
46:25
Unknown: three courses under the Constitution are very limited,
46:27
but let's look it over we have before us. The first flag flying
46:31
the American flag upside down as a as a distress signal at his
46:35
home. He dismissed is a momentary emotional lapse of his
46:39
wife making that decision. Now we have the second flag, which
46:44
is some symbolism on the radical right, being flown in his
46:49
vacation residence,
46:50
Adam Curry: hold on some symbol, know, what's
46:53
John C Dvorak: his labor rate described it some crazy symbol
46:57
of the radical right, some
46:59
Unknown: symbolism on the radical right, being flown at
47:03
his vacation residence. And you start to wonder, is this just a
47:08
chance indiscretion, or is it a conscious declaration of
47:11
omega loyalty? Maga loyalty?
47:15
When it gets right down to it, our courts and justices don't
47:18
have an army to enforce their opinions. They don't have the
47:21
money to establish a an account for media control. What they
47:27
have is the respect for integrity of the American
47:30
people. And this really raises a serious question when we have
47:33
someone in the highest court in the land, who is supporting
47:36
these political flag flags at his residence and he
47:39
Adam Curry: said facts. I heard it hold on a second. He said
47:41
political facts who's
47:42
Unknown: supporting these political flag flags
47:45
John C Dvorak: of your race head fakes and flags. Wow, we caught
47:50
your dick. So you know this, how is this different than the
47:57
accusations that Crump is a criminal? She's at least is is
48:07
subverting the justice system. This is a subversion of the
48:10
justice system, the judicial system to be specific, and also,
48:16
the Supreme Court is the same thing. I don't see how Crump is
48:20
any different Can I ask
48:21
Adam Curry: you is that Crump with a que? Si? Oh, it's with a
48:25
C? Alright. I think K is funnier. Crump.
48:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it's C in my mind. Okay. Crump Crump,
48:34
is encrypt, you know, like Crump.
48:36
Adam Curry: Now what is the process to remove a Supreme
48:39
Court justice?
48:42
John C Dvorak: Yes, you get impeached, I think, yeah, well,
48:44
who can do that? I think the Congress can but that'll be the
48:47
day. Good luck with that.
48:49
Adam Curry: Good luck with that. So John Grisham but I didn't
48:52
know he was a lefty. The author John Grisham, but maybe he's not
48:59
but he went on the, on the view, I hate to do it because
49:04
John C Dvorak: but it's he said, It's okay to get you're gonna
49:06
play another view clip.
49:08
Adam Curry: I know. But it's really John Grisham is not about
49:10
the view. It's just John Grisham. And then the views
49:14
apologizing for what he said was really quite interesting this
49:18
Unknown: well, when you read my history, you better be careful
49:21
because I'm not really noted for accuracy.
49:29
imitating life really, I think is what you're juggling. But
49:31
life right now in the courtroom is getting a little scary. I
49:35
mean, let's take the supreme court right now. A lot of people
49:38
have issues with them there. There's some scandals plaguing
49:41
the Supreme Court. Do you have any thoughts on that? And you
49:43
already write a book or ever make a movie out of that?
49:46
I wrote a great book called The Pelican Brief.
49:55
In which two Supreme Court justices were assassinated. Yes.
49:59
And I thought it But doing it again?
50:02
No, no, no, no. The
50:04
writing part two,
50:05
he's talking about writing.
50:09
Adam Curry: Fiction. How about that? I mean, he said that with
50:11
a straight face. That was a line he practiced. I'm thinking about
50:16
doing it again. There really threatening Supreme Court
50:20
justice. Oh, no. He's just like they should buy movie a book.
50:23
It's books all
50:24
Unknown: fit. It's all fictional. It's just fiction.
50:27
It's made up stories court has never looked this bad.
50:32
John C Dvorak: Court has never looked this bad. What's he
50:34
talking about? They look fine.
50:36
Adam Curry: They look actually pretty handsome and cute. He
50:39
hears the rest of the clip now
50:40
Unknown: in my lifetime. The some of the rulings the ethical
50:45
challenges. The the Erica went downhill in 2000 when five
50:51
Republicans on the court chose to elect the president. Oh, yes.
50:56
Most political Bush versus gore. Yeah. And that's that's when it
51:00
all started really going down. I agree with Bob before decision,
51:03
and the court has its gets gets worse every term.
51:10
John C Dvorak: You know, I should remind everybody that the
51:13
Miami Herald went through all the ballots and hanging chads
51:22
and all the rest of it. And they determined that Bush won Florida
51:27
what he
51:27
Adam Curry: just did there he he is an election denier.
51:32
John C Dvorak: Well, let's get to the super clip I have then I
51:35
have an objection to the electoral votes.
51:37
Unknown: The objection is in writing. And I don't care that
51:40
it is not it is not signed by a member of the Senate.
51:43
There are still legitimate concerns over the integrity of
51:47
our elections, and of ensuring the principle of one person one
51:52
vote, but constantly shifting vote, tallies in Ohio, and
51:57
malfunctioning Athlon electronic machines, which may not have
52:02
paper receipts have led to additional loss of confidence by
52:06
the public. This is their only opportunity to have this debate
52:11
while the country is listening. And it is appropriate to do so
52:15
but objected
52:16
to the counting of electoral votes of the state of Ohio.
52:19
I agree with 10s of millions of Americans who are very worried
52:23
that when they cast the ballot on an electronic voting machine,
52:28
that there is no paper trail to report trail that vote because
52:33
10 of the 29 electoral votes cast by Florida were cast by
52:38
electors not lawfully certified
52:40
Adam Curry: is
52:40
Unknown: the objection in writing and signed not only by
52:43
the members of the House represented but also by Senate
52:47
is in writing. Mr.
52:48
President, I object to this certificate from the state of
52:51
Georgia on the grounds that the electoral vote objective
52:55
certificate from the state of North Carolina
52:58
I object because people are horrified. I object
53:01
object to the certificate from the state of Alabama,
53:04
to 15 volts from the state of North Carolina because of the
53:07
massive voter suppression. I do not wish to debate. I wish to
53:11
ask is there one United States senator who will join me in this
53:15
letter? If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia baseball, it it's
53:19
clear. It's clear, Claire, I would say say that publicly.
53:22
It's clear. It's votes remain to be counted. There are voices
53:26
that were waiting to be heard. And I will not concede back then
53:30
I respect where you're coming from. And I respect that the the
53:32
issues that you're raising, you're not answering the
53:33
question. Do you think you're not using the word legitimate?
53:38
You can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee.
53:44
And you can have the election stolen from you.
53:46
He knows he's an illegitimate president.
53:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby supercut. Nice. Yeah. What led you down?
53:53
That path was beautiful.
53:56
John C Dvorak: But you do good work? Yes.
53:58
Adam Curry: We had a runoff election here. And a couple
54:02
things that went down. We had our local elections and our
54:06
state election Gillespie County, which is home to Fredericksburg,
54:11
Texas. We set out on somehow some smart patriots got in there
54:16
and said we're doing hand count. We're not doing voting machines.
54:20
And oh boy, we have one newspaper here comes out once a
54:23
week. The Fredericksburg standard Radio Flyer Gazette
54:28
which is a very very lefty newspaper of course it's the
54:31
newspapers actual newspaper still. And then we're running
54:35
headlines. This cost 27,000 extra dollars that we could have
54:39
put towards something useful and
54:42
John C Dvorak: but I guess sending all that the billions to
54:44
Ukraine is okay by these guys. Yeah,
54:47
Adam Curry: we don't have a lot of Ukraine flags flying around
54:49
here anymore. That ended pretty quick once people caught on.
54:54
Anyway, we got we literally have a new sheriff in town buddy is
54:57
out. buddies at Chris AR is an and there's going to be some
55:02
head cracking going on. Because he's like, oh, yeah, we're not
55:06
gonna have any, any cartel here, we have cartel here, and he's
55:11
gonna get rid of the cartel, he's gonna make sure that the
55:13
buses can't come up I 10 and 87 is going to be this is going to
55:19
be the center of controversy with the new shirts like it
55:22
already. And the best part is my friend, the former police
55:28
officer from Kerrville, with anger management issues, he's
55:32
going to be Lieutenant. Oh,
55:36
John C Dvorak: sure exactly what you want. That's where you will
55:38
come up with anger management issues.
55:41
Adam Curry: It'd be great.
55:44
John C Dvorak: If you're on the wrong side of the billy club,
55:46
now, there's
55:47
Adam Curry: only one thing this there's still the news media
55:51
there. I think they may be just doing this as a backup plan.
55:56
There's all kinds of bonuses for this, of course, because of
55:59
their own pay masters, but they're still pushing to an
56:03
extreme degree, which is why I have to play some clips. Again,
56:07
I'll keep doing it because we're not going to be kerfuffles like
56:11
four years ago. It's bird flu baby. So
56:14
Unknown: Dr. gounder, this farm worker exhibited respiratory
56:16
systems, symptoms rather unlike the first two human cases. So
56:19
what do we need to know about this one?
56:21
Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, respiratory now? Oh, it's
56:24
respiratory. And and there's a theme here. Everyone wants to
56:30
know if they should be concerned? Should I be concerned
56:33
about should I be concerned, we be concerned about this? Well,
56:36
Unknown: what's really important here is to understand that if
56:38
it's respiratory, it's easier to transmit onward to other people.
56:41
So if the virus is just in the eye, that's going to be harder
56:44
to pass on to others, I got some virus, it's in your respiratory
56:49
system, nothing is going to be easier to spread around.
56:52
So who is that most risk of getting bird flu?
56:56
Well, the risk to the general public is still considered to be
56:59
very low by the CDC. However, we know that farm workers are being
57:03
exposed very heavily. And so if somebody is a farm worker,
57:06
especially if they're working with dairy cows, they are at
57:08
risk for h five and one bird flu.
57:10
Adam Curry: I mean, what does it even mean? They are at risk very
57:13
heavily. How many risk very I'm gonna risk very heavily crossing
57:16
the street. Now, I said that, you know, there's multiple
57:21
reasons why they're doing this. Here's one,
57:23
Unknown: also infocus shares of Maderna, after the Financial
57:26
Times reported, the US government is nearing an
57:29
agreement to fund the biotech firms bird vaccine trial. Will
57:33
during the chairs climb 3% In premarket trading. Yeah,
57:37
Adam Curry: baby. Yeah, we got some we got some medical stuff
57:41
going on. This is good. Yeah, we get some funding some funding.
57:45
Let's continue with Dr. Celine,
57:47
Unknown: what are your concerns? What are you thinking about?
57:49
Adam Curry: What what are your concerns? Not my concern? Should
57:52
we be concerned? What's your concern?
57:54
Unknown: What are your concerns? What are you thinking about in
57:57
terms of preventing a larger outbreak? Well, what we're
58:00
really concerned about, there's not nearly enough testing,
58:02
there's not enough testing of the there's not enough testing.
58:06
There's not enough testing of the milk. And so if you're not
58:09
testing, really kind of flying blind, we don't know what we're
58:13
dealing with. And there are a lot of questions that remain
58:15
unanswered. Most importantly, how is the virus mutating? Is it
58:19
adapting to humans and other mammals? And is it adapting in
58:23
the direction where it could spread from human to human? And
58:26
if it does, that's when you end up with an epidemic or pandemic.
58:29
So we really need to be keeping a finger on the pulse so to
58:32
speak, and we're not doing that right now. So
58:34
Adam Curry: what it sounds like to me is, besides serving their
58:37
pharma overlords, they are gearing up for a possible
58:41
nailing vote. I mean, that that's what we're going to see
58:44
States taking this measure, I'm sure of it. Well, you know,
58:48
first of all, we got to start masking. Stop masking, because,
58:52
you know, it could be could mutate. And I mean, the term is
58:56
supposed to be jumped from species to species, which was
58:59
never proven with COVID. They tried pangolin, bat, etc. dog,
59:05
cat, dog, cat. The cats are the cats or dogs. Oh, your cat's
59:09
gonna get it. Now, now they take it in back to the farmer
59:14
overlords.
59:14
Unknown: So we need to keep pointing out that this was
59:17
cattle to human but there has not yet been a case of human to
59:21
human tonight.
59:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's coming. But
59:25
Adam Curry: is that something you're concerned about? Worry
59:27
about? Well, that's
59:27
Unknown: an important distinction. So yeah, so far,
59:29
all the cases have been cow or some other animals. And
59:33
historically speaking, we are not aware of any human to human
59:36
cases ever having occurred. But that is roughly how you get the
59:40
next epidemic or pandemic is if the virus mutates adapts to
59:43
humans where it can spread human to human. And if that's
59:48
John C Dvorak: what I'm sorry, h five n one's been around for
59:51
what 2030 4050 years it's been around forever read from that
59:57
why all of a sudden will it spread and let's take Create a
1:00:00
versions in a lab to make and spread. And if
1:00:06
Unknown: that were to happen, do we have the capacity to
1:00:09
manufacture vaccines to combat that? This
1:00:12
is a big concern because manufacturing pigs, bird flu,
1:00:17
Adam Curry: Oh, I love this. I love this. This is this is how
1:00:20
we bring in Maderna. This is okay be concerned and you
1:00:22
Unknown: factor vaccines to combat that.
1:00:24
This is a big concern because our flu manufacturing is based
1:00:28
on eggs, bird flu kills birds, birds lay eggs. So your whole
1:00:32
manufacturing logic is is really in jeopardy potentially, from
1:00:37
the very virus you're trying to combat. So we really do need to
1:00:39
develop alternatives to the egg based manufacturing.
1:00:43
Adam Curry: You know what he'll crap
1:00:45
John C Dvorak: what?
1:00:46
Adam Curry: I got more, I got more. What I remember all of a
1:00:50
sudden, when we just got funding for pod show from Kleiner
1:00:55
Perkins. They had, they had invested in something and it was
1:01:01
all about creating vaccines no longer doing it in eggs, and is
1:01:06
a big deal. And I remember interviewing Dora and Ray lane
1:01:14
and on a podcast, and I hope I can find that somewhere.
1:01:18
John C Dvorak: Oh, you got to find it.
1:01:19
Adam Curry: I wonder. I wonder if it was if they were already
1:01:24
looking at mRNA back in the day. I really am.
1:01:29
John C Dvorak: If you've been listening to a lot of the same,
1:01:31
these same sort of clips, and they've been working on em RNA
1:01:36
forever. And but they could never get past testing because
1:01:39
it kills everything. It does, and it doesn't work. And so they
1:01:43
found that the COVID was perfect, because then you could
1:01:46
force it into the into the general population people's
1:01:50
arms. You can force it into the arms as an emergency. Yeah. And
1:01:56
then see what happens. Because we're pretty sure that this
1:01:58
stuff is great. It works terrific. And we but we can't
1:02:02
seem to get past testing. So because it kills everything. But
1:02:06
I'm sure it works, though. Sorry. So they do what they're
1:02:11
doing. How
1:02:12
Unknown: are eggs used in the creation of vaccines with
1:02:16
Adam Curry: really, really have you never never had science in
1:02:20
school? Okay,
1:02:21
Unknown: what's the virus in the eggs, and then you kill the
1:02:24
virus. And then that's one of the constituents, that's really
1:02:26
the main ingredient in your vaccines, okay,
1:02:29
and so it's so just to go back, if you have an allergy to eggs,
1:02:32
it's not a factor because,
1:02:34
as it turns out, it's not a factor because you're really
1:02:36
just growing the virus in the eggs. It's not that the eggs are
1:02:39
part of the vaccine, it's just the substrate for the the, the
1:02:44
food really for the virus to be growing.
1:02:46
So I can see why scientists would be concerned. Now we're
1:02:50
not dealing with an outbreak of the bird flu in the human
1:02:52
population. But viruses evolve and we want to be caught flat
1:02:56
footed again, no, again, we're killing all of
1:02:59
these birds will remember bird flu is deadly to birds, birds
1:03:04
also lay eggs, which are one of your main tools really to
1:03:08
produce the virus that you put in the vaccine. Yeah. And so if
1:03:12
you having to kill birds that are laying the eggs, you're
1:03:15
really in a difficult situation, you know, these barriers are
1:03:19
laying the eggs that we're using for the vaccines. Those are a
1:03:22
very precious commodity. But if they are endangered by the very
1:03:25
virus we're hoping to, you're kind of in this very difficult
1:03:29
position.
1:03:29
Adam Curry: Now that what is the solution, John? I mean, is there
1:03:32
an alternative to making vaccines without eggs? Can you
1:03:35
think of anything? Because clearly, you're an idiot CBS
1:03:39
person, then just leading the witness? This is so weird, what
1:03:44
are their alternatives?
1:03:46
Unknown: And so there must be scientists working on
1:03:48
alternatives, though, are there alternatives out there?
1:03:51
There are alternatives remember, mRNA vaccines from COVID.
1:03:54
Remember, remembering flu vaccines, even combination flu
1:03:59
and COVID vaccines, there are other types of cells that are
1:04:02
not eggs. So you have mammalian cells, you have insect cells and
1:04:07
back that we can grow virus in. But these are just not as far
1:04:12
advanced as far developed as the egg based manufacturing. Right.
1:04:17
Adam Curry: Right. Right. But I'm so glad you brought that up.
1:04:20
Because we have all kinds of great bird flu vaccines
1:04:24
Unknown: and health check. Penn Medicine says it's created a
1:04:26
human bird flu vaccine on the same platform as its COVID-19
1:04:30
form the experimental and one of the Just Say
1:04:32
Adam Curry: operating system, that'd be funnier opera, the
1:04:35
same operating system is mRNA. For basically it
1:04:38
Unknown: was seen on the same platform as its COVID 19
1:04:41
vaccine. The experimental mRNA vaccine protected lab animals
1:04:46
from severe illness and death for at least a year. In fact,
1:04:49
all the vaccinated animals survived infections while all
1:04:52
the unvaccinated ones died. Early infects humans, but
1:04:57
there's been heightened concern about a current outbreak
1:05:00
circulating in birds and cattle in the US. Yeah,
1:05:04
Adam Curry: the heightened concerns more concern. There's
1:05:06
so much concern.
1:05:07
John C Dvorak: Instead of a platform, they should call it a
1:05:09
bus.
1:05:11
Adam Curry: A bus. Let's go to North Carolina and we
1:05:15
Unknown: were built to provide on soil pandemic response for
1:05:19
influenza vaccines,
1:05:20
CSL secure us with a site in Holly Springs that makes over 55
1:05:24
million doses of flu shots a year. Those go out across the US
1:05:28
and Europe.
1:05:28
And they'll get distributed from August and throughout the winter
1:05:31
seasons.
1:05:32
Now they're adding bird flu vaccines of 4.8 million doses as
1:05:36
part of an ongoing contract with the US government. What
1:05:39
we will do is we'll take the antigen that was manufactured
1:05:43
will convert that into finished doses and we'll make that
1:05:46
readily available to be distributed at the direction of
1:05:50
the US government. Have you
1:05:51
Adam Curry: ever heard of triangle pharmaceuticals?
1:05:55
John C Dvorak: No, but you better tell them you got it made
1:05:59
Adam Curry: you better tell Horowitz. So I think there are
1:06:02
people in the background going like hey, we missed out on that
1:06:05
first time that moderna and Pfizer stuff, man, we got to get
1:06:08
on the stick here. Who do you know, Bill, Bill? I got a buddy
1:06:12
over a triangle North Carolina. Good. We'll give them the
1:06:15
contract. 4.8 million vaccines at it beautiful. ABC for the
1:06:20
Unknown: third human case of bird flu here in the US has been
1:06:23
confirmed in Michigan all three were exposed to infected dairy
1:06:27
cows on different farms to in Michigan. One in Texas, the CDC
1:06:31
says the risk to the public remains low, but it is
1:06:34
stockpiling.
1:06:36
John C Dvorak: Anyway, what I said but we'll talk about it
1:06:40
anyway.
1:06:40
Adam Curry: Well, there's a reason for it. One in Texas,
1:06:42
Unknown: the CDC says the risk to the public remains low. But
1:06:46
it is stockpiling the current bird flu vaccine and a new mRNA
1:06:50
vaccine is now in the works. Yay.
1:06:54
Adam Curry: Yay. Yay. Get ready. Roll up your sleeves. Let's go
1:06:57
for two more clips for do America's favorite doctor. on
1:07:01
ABC. Good Morning America. Dr. Jenn now
1:07:03
Unknown: a doctor again talking about how the CDC has confirmed
1:07:05
the second case of human age five birds flew in Michigan,
1:07:09
should we be concerned?
1:07:10
That's the cost should we be concerned?
1:07:13
John C Dvorak: Should we be concerned it's funny, but get a
1:07:16
sample for a second. The Michigan case I think was the
1:07:20
last case there were two in Texas and one in Michigan but
1:07:22
they keep mixing up where the cases where three A's? Yes, they
1:07:26
do they do and how is Oh, it's so hard to know the difference
1:07:30
between two and three.
1:07:32
Adam Curry: It's confusing, and I'm concerned now
1:07:34
Unknown: with Dr. Jen talking about how the CDC has confirmed
1:07:36
the second case of human h5 bird flu and Michigan should we be
1:07:40
concerned?
1:07:41
That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who
1:07:44
remembers just
1:07:49
Adam Curry: listen, listen, listen. You know what, think
1:07:53
about it. Anyone who lived through COVID will remember you
1:07:57
should be concerned.
1:07:58
Unknown: That's the question. Well, listen, I think anyone who
1:08:01
remembers back just four years to 2020 really should be
1:08:05
answering. Of course, we should be paying attention to this.
1:08:08
There's a big difference between being vigilant and paying
1:08:11
attention and panicking unnecessarily right now, right?
1:08:15
We've learned that we have to pay attention to these reading
1:08:18
infectious diseases, viruses mutate for a living. This has
1:08:22
been occurring now for several years infecting poultry. Now
1:08:25
dairy cattle. Anytime we see a virus that does change in a
1:08:31
normal course of the viral lifespan, and it goes from one
1:08:35
species to another, we have got to pay attention. Now. This is
1:08:38
the third us case the second confirmed case in Michigan, the
1:08:42
more you look for something in medicine, what
1:08:48
John C Dvorak: he says to she says three and now she says
1:08:51
there's two in Michigan, I thought it was two in Texas and
1:08:53
one in Michigan. But
1:08:54
Adam Curry: you know what? It doesn't matter as long as you're
1:08:56
concerned. Pay
1:08:57
Unknown: attention. Now. This is the third us case confirmed case
1:09:01
in Michigan. The more you look for something in medicine and
1:09:03
public health, the more you will find it. This person does have
1:09:06
respiratory symptoms, but he's been treated and managed and
1:09:10
isolating. You had a cough at home, not hospitalized. But
1:09:14
again, I think we cannot put our heads in the sand. The CDC is
1:09:18
not doing that the FDA is not doing that. And the USDA is not
1:09:22
doing that. Nor is
1:09:23
Adam Curry: the world nor is the world or to help world horse
1:09:27
organization important
1:09:28
Unknown: to point out these were farm workers who had direct
1:09:30
contact as gross cows. But there is reason to be hopeful or for
1:09:34
comfort here and
1:09:35
listen, we've been in touch with very high level officials from
1:09:38
the CDC. spoken to the CDC director about this she was a
1:09:42
guest on GMA three, she said the following number one we have a
1:09:45
treatment we have an antiviral medication that's effective
1:09:48
against this strain of bird flu number two, it has not shown any
1:09:52
mutation yet. Number three we have a vaccine in the national
1:09:55
stuff.
1:09:55
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, no mutation but but wait a minute,
1:09:59
you're telling first You're telling me that it went from
1:10:01
chickens to cows, but there's no mutation yet? Shouldn't this be
1:10:05
cow flu? Actually think about it. I mean, that seems odd.
1:10:10
John C Dvorak: This story is not well, well structured and
1:10:13
Unknown: effective against this strain of bird flu. Number two,
1:10:16
it has not shown any mutation yet. Number three, we have a
1:10:19
vaccine in the national stockpile and the ability to
1:10:22
ramp that up very quickly if need be right now, the overall
1:10:26
risk to the general population remains low.
1:10:32
Adam Curry: We are good to but But Dr. Jen has added another
1:10:38
agenda, which was not really surprising, because we've
1:10:42
already had the mailing ballot. We have, you know,
1:10:47
pharmaceutical overlords ramping up government contracts, and
1:10:52
there's another one now let's talk
1:10:53
Unknown: to America's favorite doctor when making medical
1:10:56
headlines, authorities have detected the presence of bird
1:10:58
flu at a farm in Iowa, more than 4 million chickens should we be
1:11:02
concerned?
1:11:07
Okay, here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been in
1:11:10
close contact with
1:11:11
Adam Curry: there must be a memo that
1:11:14
John C Dvorak: says yes, something's gotta be up and then
1:11:17
saying should we be concerned it's got to be in that memo as a
1:11:20
talking point has to because everybody's saying the exact
1:11:23
same thing. Okay,
1:11:24
Unknown: here's the latest from the USDA. And again, we've been
1:11:27
in close contact with the CDC on this, they are testing more
1:11:31
that's why you're seeing it more there's no surprise here.
1:11:35
Adam Curry: The exactly the more you spin up here your bogus PCR
1:11:39
cycles and you're testing more the more you're gonna see you
1:11:42
could test for HIV and get it from from cows come on people we
1:11:46
know this is bunk,
1:11:48
Unknown: but the latest is infected poultry entering the
1:11:50
food chain in this country the risk is sought to
1:11:54
Adam Curry: be extremely low that entering the food chain
1:11:57
Unknown: according to the USDA. All poultry products are
1:12:01
inspected rigorously and they were before this outbreak for
1:12:05
signs of disease. Bird Flu avian influenza is not I repeat is not
1:12:10
transmissible by eating foods including poultry that have been
1:12:14
properly prepared properly cooked so you want to make sure
1:12:17
you're not cross contaminating you want to cook according to
1:12:20
regular appropriate temperatures and eggs because we've been
1:12:24
tracking this as well have to be thoroughly cooked. The yolks are
1:12:29
first overeasy no overeasy
1:12:33
John C Dvorak: please x.com 20 x.com
1:12:39
Adam Curry: too
1:12:39
John C Dvorak: many eggs that comes with me me says you know I
1:12:41
do all this work. You guys never plugged
1:12:43
Adam Curry: in. You can't do them over easy. rip those pages
1:12:46
out of your book. Too many eggs.com Rip the pages out of
1:12:50
that book. You could die if you if you have eggs
1:12:54
John C Dvorak: that are over not to mention sunnyside up
1:12:57
Unknown: until the yolks are first overeasy no overeasy. And
1:13:00
when you're talking about the
1:13:03
Adam Curry: way if you wait, wait for it gets better.
1:13:05
Unknown: No raw or unpasteurized milk,
1:13:08
Adam Curry: no raw milk. no milk, no raw milk.
1:13:14
Unknown: That should have been the case before abs. So bottom
1:13:16
line if people want to avoid this altogether. Did
1:13:19
John C Dvorak: you hit Do you hear that? Right? She said that
1:13:23
should have been the case before? Because they're not in
1:13:27
words. Hey, we don't like the idea of anyone having raw milk.
1:13:31
So that should always be the case. By the way, be it even if
1:13:34
there's no avian flu, it's drinking sewage.
1:13:38
Adam Curry: Wait, there's more.
1:13:39
Unknown: And when you're talking about the dairy supply, no raw
1:13:42
or unpasteurized milk. That should have been the case before
1:13:46
avian. So bottom line if people want to avoid this altogether,
1:13:48
what's the choice? Well, look, again, we have to emphasize what
1:13:52
the science and the facts say right now there is no evidence
1:13:55
that this is a virus that can be transmitted via eating properly
1:13:58
cooked food, or drinking properly pasteurized milk. But
1:14:03
obviously the options always need to be stated for people who
1:14:06
are concerned plant based better for the environment and probably
1:14:10
will save you some money as well. At least temporarily. It's
1:14:12
a good way to try it.
1:14:16
Adam Curry: Yes, but she come comes in with the vegan angle.
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: Holy mackerel that's clipping today.
1:14:22
Adam Curry: Thank you. I figured we could go to the clip
1:14:25
custodian clip.
1:14:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there was clearings in the vegan angle at
1:14:31
the end. You don't want to get muddy and make sure when you can
1:14:33
you imagine having a fried egg with the heart is hell yolk.
1:14:38
Then what's the point?
1:14:39
Adam Curry: My mom used to she she had a problem with a runny
1:14:42
egg yolk she'd always we go to a diner I remember it so I was
1:14:45
like, Can you kill my eggs? I want them killed. Hard burned,
1:14:49
burned all the way down. No yoke
1:14:52
John C Dvorak: that we put ketchup on it make scrambled
1:14:54
eggs then it's fine doll but you
1:14:57
Adam Curry: can't have them too fluffy. Gotta have them hard.
1:15:01
overcooked and dry. And don't you dare put any raw milk in
1:15:04
there. Ah. Now here's the crazy thing by
1:15:07
John C Dvorak: the way, if there was some evidence that somebody
1:15:09
got bird flu from raw milk or our overeasy egg where is it
1:15:13
that there's no evidence? Course not.
1:15:16
Adam Curry: I have another. This is the testing industrial
1:15:18
complex also from ABC
1:15:20
Unknown: tonight scientists are ramping up vaccine testing to
1:15:23
prevent bird flu transmission between cows and people.
1:15:28
Adam Curry: stop barking your cows. Hi. I'm so saddened by
1:15:37
this as the
1:15:37
Unknown: CDC confirms a third rare human case in the US rare.
1:15:43
Adam Curry: This is not so rare people get bird flu all the time
1:15:46
when they're around birds,
1:15:48
Unknown: a cow likely infecting a Michigan dairy worker. Now the
1:15:51
first thing what was he doing show respiratory symptoms like
1:15:54
coughing was he kissing the cow that patient now on an antiviral
1:15:58
medication and recovering at home. The previous two cases
1:16:01
showed symptoms like pinkeye federal health authorities
1:16:05
investing millions to limit the spread among livestock.
1:16:10
Adam Curry: You can go to schools and find pinkeye Come on
1:16:13
people, the USDA
1:16:15
Unknown: announcing an additional 800 million in
1:16:17
emergency for testing $800
1:16:20
Adam Curry: million.
1:16:23
Unknown: For testing my potholes virus surveillance developing
1:16:27
bird flu vaccine for livestock and food safety studies. Federal
1:16:32
officials still requiring testing before cattle cross
1:16:35
state lines, the USDA confirming 68 outbreaks and dairy cow herds
1:16:40
across at least nine states since March
1:16:43
Adam Curry: outbreaks. Notice the terminology people the USDA
1:16:47
says
1:16:47
Unknown: ultimately we want to eliminate the virus and
1:16:50
developing a vaccine to prevent another emergence of h five and
1:16:53
one in cattle will be an important step toward that end.
1:16:57
Adam Curry: This is a pipe dream. As you pointed out, Bert
1:17:01
h five
1:17:03
John C Dvorak: h five and one has been around
1:17:05
Adam Curry: for decades. For decades. Now all of a sudden,
1:17:10
whoa, whoa, no gotta develop a vaccine because it's a bonanza.
1:17:13
And this free money people free money. But that
1:17:16
Unknown: step in humans is likely still far off.
1:17:19
Ultimately, if we reduce the virus amounts in livestock, it's
1:17:23
going to reduce the chance that this virus has for jumping into
1:17:28
humans. Well, there is no science to suggest that bird flu
1:17:32
is being transmitted from human to human scientists are still
1:17:35
testing vaccines in humans, those at highest risk
1:17:39
farmworkers with exposure to livestock
1:17:42
Adam Curry: what they want, I think because they want to put
1:17:44
mRNA into our cattle. That's just not going to happen. And
1:17:50
you once you put that mRNA into your cattle who knows who knows
1:17:54
what's going on grow another head? Well, this
1:17:57
John C Dvorak: is reminding I have a clip
1:17:59
Adam Curry: I played this one last one from Sky News from
1:18:01
Australia. They'll say
1:18:03
John C Dvorak: Oh say they have cows. They have cows dander.
1:18:06
Adam Curry: I'm reliably informed. They also have a
1:18:09
different strain of the bird flu Victorian
1:18:13
Unknown: child has confirmed the first human case of a rare and
1:18:16
dangerous bird flu in Australia. As Minnie Becker explains an egg
1:18:20
farm Victoria detected a different strain of the virus is
1:18:23
now in quarantine.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: Oh
1:18:27
Unknown: CSIRO has confirmed the strain of bird flu to be the
1:18:30
haich seven and seven which is different to the current global
1:18:34
outbreak. It's understood global
1:18:36
Adam Curry: outbreak,
1:18:38
John C Dvorak: but global
1:18:39
Adam Curry: global outbreak. And now we have h seven and seven
1:18:43
we're getting close to the h h semonin. Nine or H nine and one
1:18:48
means a lot of H's and NS will outbreak
1:18:50
Unknown: it's understood around 400,000 chickens have had to be
1:18:54
put down after bird flu was detected in an egg farm knee
1:18:58
Meredith in the west of Victoria specialist teams have been seen
1:19:02
at that property dressed in hazmat suits conducting more
1:19:05
testing there. There is of course strict quarantine
1:19:08
measures in place around that property and in other farms in
1:19:12
the area as there is a high possibility it may have already
1:19:16
spread but experts say the risk to the public remains low.
1:19:19
This is not the type of avian influenza, which is a risk to
1:19:23
humans is very, very, very small.
1:19:27
Very few cases globally. But therefore it's totally safe to
1:19:31
consume eggs and carry on eating poultry as long as it's properly
1:19:35
cooked. Department
1:19:36
of Health overreaching with agriculture Victoria but in a
1:19:39
completely separate case and a separate strain. A confirmation
1:19:44
of a human case of bird flu has come through it's understood a
1:19:49
child who was traveling in India managed to catch the infection
1:19:54
and they traveled back here to Melbourne in March. It's
1:19:57
understood they suffered a severe infection but have made a
1:20:00
full recovery it's not believed that that virus has spread to
1:20:04
any one else but authorities are on alert.
1:20:08
Adam Curry: How about this? They just want to get rid of chicken.
1:20:11
It's cheap. This readily available chickens. It's the one
1:20:15
I need this on on a button now. How long ago was
1:20:20
John C Dvorak: a Weymouth? He brought it from India and
1:20:23
infected the chickens in Australia? Yeah, why don't they?
1:20:27
How can we get any no reports from India about anything going
1:20:30
on like this? War
1:20:39
Adam Curry: the first time we played that was 2012 years ago,
1:20:48
the war, the war is
1:20:50
John C Dvorak: a longer war than they have ganas than war. Was
1:20:55
something is screwy going on because of this report that I
1:20:58
got from PBS. Okay,
1:21:00
Adam Curry: let me see. Where am I looking at here? COVID. Oh,
1:21:04
all right. I'm sorry. What? Wait, I
1:21:07
John C Dvorak: got to set this up. And it's only part of the
1:21:11
dislike went on for 10 minutes. I have not absolutely sure what
1:21:16
they're doing. They're trying to get people back on the mask.
1:21:19
Yeah, I still see people floating around the masks. I'm
1:21:22
going What is wrong with you? So they've got so they brought on a
1:21:25
bunch of people with handicapped people. Oh boy. But it was like,
1:21:31
you know, somebody's got some sort of skin conditions. There
1:21:35
was a cerebral palsy guy and they went after the other.
1:21:40
Adam Curry: You have cerebral palsy guy. Look at my cerebral
1:21:43
John C Dvorak: palsy. Cape.
1:21:44
Adam Curry: Is he a superhero cerebral palsy guy.
1:21:46
John C Dvorak: Well, one person after another. They brought on I
1:21:52
don't know where they dug them up or how they found it. But
1:21:54
each one of them are shut ins. Because as of 2024, they are
1:22:02
afraid to go outside because they see the possibility they if
1:22:06
they get COVID Even though COVID is gone, they're gonna die if
1:22:10
they're gonna die. And so the PBS we can lose our play there
1:22:17
and I only got part of it because it goes on and on and on
1:22:21
with every one of them pleading with everyone out there. Hey,
1:22:24
think of me. I can't get out of the house because you will wear
1:22:28
a mask. The pace
1:22:29
Unknown: of us COVID-19 fatalities has slowed
1:22:32
significantly. The nationwide death toll stands at more than 1
1:22:36
million people. With precautions like mandatory masking social
1:22:40
distancing and isolation. No longer in place. It can seem as
1:22:44
if worries about the virus are gone as well. But for many
1:22:47
people with disabilities, the threat is still very real. We
1:22:51
asked people in the disability community to tell us about their
1:22:54
concerns about this new normal. Naomi bent
1:22:57
Adam Curry: the disability community. Yeah,
1:23:01
John C Dvorak: you know, the disability community. Can
1:23:04
Adam Curry: I get in on that with my Tourette's? Can I get
1:23:07
it? Is there any? Is there any money?
1:23:10
John C Dvorak: I don't think they got money.
1:23:12
Unknown: We asked people in the disability community to tell us
1:23:14
about their concerns about this new normal
1:23:17
Naomi Ben Porath. Um, 26 years old. I live in Lowell,
1:23:22
Massachusetts, I have pots Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia
1:23:26
Syndrome. I would say that the changes in the COVID policies
1:23:29
have definitely made me a lot more nervous to be out and
1:23:32
about.
1:23:32
My name is Ngozi Austin. I have scleroderma, which is an
1:23:38
autoimmune condition. There's just so much erasure that
1:23:41
exists, right? Like we are not part of public spaces. We're not
1:23:44
part of mass movement. We can't be they're not safe.
1:23:47
My name is Jermaine grieves. My different disabilities are
1:23:53
cerebral palsy. That is a neurological condition that
1:23:57
affects the brain in the muscle. My second disability is Hydra
1:24:01
rhinitis. suppurativa. That is a chronic skin condition. I'm just
1:24:05
afraid of getting sick and not being able to like, get through
1:24:09
it.
1:24:10
Adam Curry: Oh, these poor people, they've been terrorized.
1:24:14
Exactly.
1:24:15
John C Dvorak: And by the way, that's the tip of the iceberg
1:24:17
for this report. I was going to clip more but it was so
1:24:19
pathetic, but that's exactly what happened. terrorized. They
1:24:23
are. They have this in some of these conditions that go they
1:24:26
talk about our minor, and it's like, they will not go outside
1:24:31
because people aren't masked up. And it's like, what? Oh, yeah,
1:24:37
that's the calendar
1:24:38
Adam Curry: a Terrorist. Terrorist.
1:24:41
John C Dvorak: It's terrorism. It's exactly what I was
1:24:43
thinking. This is Dave terrorized the public as best
1:24:47
they can another doing it again. Yeah.
1:24:49
Adam Curry: And lots of people fall I see people at HEB here
1:24:53
with masks, mainly Latinx I don't know why but It just seems
1:25:00
to be that they seem to be more susceptible to the terror. Yeah,
1:25:04
and I'm gonna have to So maybe
1:25:06
John C Dvorak: when I was going to be recognized by the camera,
1:25:09
well, there's that
1:25:10
Adam Curry: possibility to wrap it up with all these all this
1:25:13
vaccine talk. You know, because of course mRNA and it was the
1:25:17
platform, it's an operating system. Let's go to the NBC
1:25:20
Today show is a bus Yeah. And again, we're just baffled by
1:25:26
this. This trend. We're
1:25:27
Unknown: back with our ongoing Heart Health Series with a new
1:25:31
way of thinking about heart attacks and
1:25:33
doctors saying they're seeing an alarming number of seemingly
1:25:35
healthy patients are having heart attacks and those patients
1:25:38
are getting younger and younger. Me Suzanne Thompson
1:25:41
this morning and good morning, this story is going to blow you
1:25:44
away because research shows that more than 10% of heart attack
1:25:47
patients had no known risk factors such as obesity or
1:25:51
smoking. Now there's a group of doctors at Mount Sinai here in
1:25:54
New York City tracking patients to see if they can uncover the
1:25:58
new risk factors behind this trend. What could it be confused
1:26:03
Matisse Escobar runs to control his physical and mental health
1:26:08
by the 38 year old fine tuning his mind body with years of
1:26:13
triathlons. Until last October when the unthinkable happened.
1:26:19
The tears collapsed at the end of a race from a heart attack.
1:26:24
How close to death did you come?
1:26:27
I was that for for several minutes. So you were dead. I
1:26:32
mean, my heart stopped beating and they they kept me with CPR
1:26:37
for 12 minutes until the ambulance came.
1:26:41
The heroic CPR was caught on camera. He's smartwatch recorded
1:26:45
what happened to his heart?
1:26:47
So you've got one heartbeat
1:26:48
there. Yes. And then nothing. For
1:26:51
two days he was in a coma? Doctors mystified by how this
1:26:55
young man in great shape. Came semester five to eat a lot of
1:27:01
red meat. No,
1:27:04
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no. No.
1:27:07
John C Dvorak: Honestly. The first thing she brings up is a
1:27:10
vegan talking point. Yes sir.
1:27:12
Unknown: Great shape came so close to death. Did you eat a
1:27:17
lot of red meat?
1:27:18
No.
1:27:19
Did you drink?
1:27:21
Very very little social has the stress. I wasn't stressed out
1:27:28
person at all.
1:27:29
Adam Curry: Did you get the VAX?
1:27:32
John C Dvorak: Did you guess actually that's what she's going
1:27:34
to ask next because any journalist would just just to
1:27:37
get it in as a fact as a as a as a point is a checklist a
1:27:41
checkbox thing.
1:27:43
Adam Curry: She's gonna ask yes, she's gonna ask that not
1:27:46
Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks
1:27:49
Miss Dr. Deepak Bhatt. By
1:27:51
Adam Curry: the way you notice it's always athletic, young
1:27:54
people who get this. You're on the basketball court. You're on
1:27:59
the football field. You're on the soccer field. You're on the
1:28:01
fencing team. You're it's always people who are athletic, in
1:28:06
great health. Who I'm just she didn't ask John. I'm sorry, but
1:28:10
I'm just going to guess what? Yeah,
1:28:13
Unknown: trying to unravel the mystery of young heart attacks.
1:28:16
Dr. Deepak Bock, Director of Mount Sinai Mr. Hart Hospital in
1:28:21
New York City, Mr. He's looking into patients presenting with no
1:28:24
known risk factors like diabetes, high blood pressure
1:28:28
and high cholesterol. Dr. Bhatt says 12% of heart attack
1:28:32
patients don't have those risk factors. We're seeing
1:28:36
younger people come in like we never used to see before. Why is
1:28:40
that?
1:28:45
Why is that? When
1:28:49
John C Dvorak: I saw that?
1:28:51
Adam Curry: I love the doctor bot to I am Doctor bot I am a I
1:28:56
cannot figure out. Why is this
1:28:59
Unknown: we're seeing younger people come in like we never
1:29:02
used to see before. Why is that? Well, that's a great question. I
1:29:10
think there are a lot of reasons for that one probably has to do
1:29:14
with the obesity epidemic. But it could also be other things. I
1:29:17
hate to say it but you know, there's more substance abuse
1:29:20
these days. Things like cocaine, for example. Oh, it's cocaine.
1:29:24
It's the Coke, even smoking marijuana. Another weed. It's
1:29:28
the weed potential
1:29:29
clue, long, small dream inflammation. And
1:29:33
I'm talking about inflammation in the arteries supplying blood
1:29:36
to the heart that might lead to the plaque in that artery to act
1:29:39
up, in fact, to rupture a blood clot to form. If that blocks the
1:29:44
blood flow in that artery. That's what causes a heart
1:29:46
attack or heart muscle damage.
1:29:48
The cause of inflammation in seemingly healthy people like
1:29:52
Mateus, who are not obese and don't smoke is not yet clear.
1:29:58
But as a precaution, the husband and father of a two year old
1:30:02
watches his diet more carefully. He's gone vegan. There it is
1:30:08
whole grains and less red meat is recommended by Dr. Bhatt,
1:30:12
along with 30 minutes of exercise daily and getting a
1:30:16
good night's rest. Not easy when you worry if it could happen
1:30:21
again. How do you manage that? That fear of it coming back?
1:30:26
So I think that's probably the biggest part of this entire
1:30:30
thing. What do you do with fear that you're going to start
1:30:33
feeling things in your body that don't exist? So I it's very
1:30:36
important that you work on that right from the I feel
1:30:40
Adam Curry: so bad. This is I mean, we're joking about it,
1:30:43
because that's what we do as as McCobb podcasters. But it's it's
1:30:49
a travesty. And there was Did you see the great debate jock,
1:30:55
the great debate, the great debate, the great debate, with
1:30:59
great debate, the great debate on PDB value tainment. The value
1:31:04
tainment Oh, I
1:31:05
John C Dvorak: missed the value team and great debate. Yes, the
1:31:08
Adam Curry: value tainment debate was between comedian.
1:31:12
John C Dvorak: That's what I want is Dave Smith.
1:31:14
Adam Curry: Who's Who's Who's on fire right now is on fire with
1:31:18
Chris Cuomo. Yes. And I actually pulled a one minute 13 second
1:31:26
clip from this. There was three hours this debate. And it's it's
1:31:32
interesting, because as far as much as we mock it, people are
1:31:36
riveted by this. They had an audience, the audience sitting
1:31:40
there or like, near like Cuomo, Cuomo, Cuomo. And I think this
1:31:45
clip kind of sums it all up. was an
1:31:48
Unknown: all research that supports the shot is a two is a
1:31:51
two part answer. That emergency youth officer authorization,
1:31:56
Adam Curry: emergency youth authorization Here we go. All
1:31:58
right, Chris, you're out of control. That
1:32:01
Unknown: emergency youth officer authorization, they need to go
1:32:04
back and review why it got it. And they're never going to do it
1:32:08
right now to a bit of what Pat was saying. Right now,
1:32:12
here's what you have.
1:32:13
Blaine. Versus silence. You guys are the blame side. I want
1:32:18
apologies. I want to reckoning now. I want to say that I don't
1:32:22
take it. But this is why I talk about telling you
1:32:26
hear me out, hear me out. I'm telling you this. My dad told me
1:32:30
something one time. He says listen, be very careful when
1:32:34
everybody says good things about you. Because one thing in
1:32:35
America is they'll turn you into here overnight, and they'll turn
1:32:38
you to zero overnight. Yes. Then he said the following. He said
1:32:42
but this The great thing about America what America loves more
1:32:44
than anything else is a redemption story. They want to
1:32:48
see you make a comeback. They want to see you go from here you
1:32:52
are fall, they kick your ass and you're like, if you know what
1:32:56
this is America, most of us are Christians come back we believe
1:33:00
in forgiveness. And then you can make some kind of a comeback.
1:33:02
That may take a few months in a couple years. But then they're
1:33:05
like, Okay, well, we all make mistakes.
1:33:07
Adam Curry: This is the I think this was the core of this debate
1:33:11
is the prodigal son. What people want what America wants, and I
1:33:16
don't understand why Chris Cuomo doesn't see it. They want Him to
1:33:20
say, I'm sorry. I screwed up. I was wrong. I was in the wrong
1:33:28
camp. I did a bad thing. Um, he I agree with with value
1:33:33
tainment. Man, the Chris could be the hero. Three hours am
1:33:38
Dave's comedian, comedian Dave Smith. You got to say comedian
1:33:40
Dave Smith. He just was dragging this guy. I mean, it was it was
1:33:45
like it was not a fair fight almost. Because Chris Cuomo
1:33:48
can't just say it. And that's really what America wants right
1:33:53
now. Somebody President Trump, somebody to say? I'm sorry, I
1:34:01
was wrong. anybody? Anybody? I think America would go okay all
1:34:07
right, good. So you were wrong now let's now let's move on.
1:34:12
Guys some people want death and hangings and get your teens but
1:34:16
I like that part. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
1:34:19
courage today in the morning to you the man who put the seat in
1:34:21
the war on chicken say hello to my friend on the other end the
1:34:24
one and only Mr. John.
1:34:29
John C Dvorak: anymore you Mr. Creighton Memorial ships and see
1:34:32
boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all
1:34:34
the names and trolls
1:34:41
Adam Curry: you know, thank you. Thank you. Justice system of
1:34:46
America 2119 35 minutes after last Sunday's count when we had
1:34:54
1643 We are up by a massive 400 Plus trolls A lot. That's a lot.
1:35:02
That's phenomenal, is because they want to know what we have
1:35:05
to say, what did the boys have to say? What are the borrowers
1:35:08
have to say what a boy what a borrower's have to share
1:35:11
something here for the boys to say, you can be a troll. And of
1:35:16
course, this is really our studio audience, but we'd like
1:35:18
to call them trolls because once you're in the studio audience,
1:35:21
it's what I'm
1:35:23
John C Dvorak: just rude. I just put something in the browser
1:35:25
that didn't work.
1:35:28
Adam Curry: It's x hamster. So, trolls is a little bit of a
1:35:35
misnomer. But unlike the view, where you got to shut up until
1:35:39
the applause sign goes on here, you can just troll around it
1:35:43
trolling the zoo, whatever you want. To troll, troll troll,
1:35:46
it's all good. It's all fine. And people do it. And they take
1:35:49
advantage of it. But they also hand out information. They you
1:35:52
know, it keeps us in check. When we say something wrong, people
1:35:55
say you're wrong. It's all very good. It's very important. Go to
1:35:58
troll room, troll room.io, you can always join the live show.
1:36:02
You can go there 24 hours a day, because there's always something
1:36:06
going on on the no agenda stream in the troll room. People stay
1:36:10
logged in for years. In fact, I'm gonna Yes, I'm gonna ask
1:36:14
voids. Some of these people may be dead and they're still alive.
1:36:17
They
1:36:17
John C Dvorak: could be in your mind. You know, I think I've
1:36:19
always remembered from the IRC.
1:36:21
Adam Curry: I remember. Yeah,
1:36:23
John C Dvorak: there are people that get on and they did they
1:36:25
don't know how to hang up. And it's just on there forever.
1:36:27
They're just things are running and running.
1:36:29
Adam Curry: I I remember there was a if it wasn't he was logged
1:36:32
into a a Unix server, but I think it was an IRC channel. And
1:36:38
it was a guy who died and many stayed logged in for years after
1:36:41
that. Year dead. Yeah. Void zero, maybe you can do a do a
1:36:48
reboot. Resume? No, no, no, don't do it. No, I want to know,
1:36:53
if this if there's people have been logged in for years and
1:36:56
years. It's very possible. That's how many people just
1:37:00
John C Dvorak: kick everybody off all at once, no for five
1:37:04
minutes and then then get back on it on if they want. It's
1:37:07
called the net spotland. Now that's another thing I should
1:37:10
mention. I believe that on some of these systems, if you're
1:37:13
especially pure IRC news, what some of these systems will read
1:37:18
log you on Yes, automatically, automatically. So it doesn't so
1:37:22
what my theory what I'm just saying here is probably not
1:37:25
going to work. But
1:37:26
Adam Curry: then we have net splits and all kinds of things
1:37:28
happen so but anyway, void zero network
1:37:32
John C Dvorak: split net split, we
1:37:33
Adam Curry: got a net split. Well, there's no there's it's
1:37:36
show title. Net. That's really what I'm writing it down anyway.
1:37:41
You guys,
1:37:42
John C Dvorak: you got della, you got
1:37:45
Adam Curry: net split. You can also be get an alert when we go
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Click boom. And that same app will alert you within 90 seconds
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anything else? We love the value for value model time talent
1:38:23
treasure, you're listening to the show you want to contribute
1:38:26
back you can hit people in the mouth you can there's many
1:38:28
things you can do even just retweeting stuff helps
1:38:32
John C Dvorak: me I want to talk about something not completely
1:38:37
off topic, but it's one of these bonus things bonus I was
1:38:40
listening to Darryl Darren what's his name? I can't
1:38:43
remember knob guy. Yeah, and Mr. knob he made an interesting
1:38:48
observation which brings us back to what we were talking about
1:38:51
the idea of terrorizing the public. And he I thought this is
1:38:55
I thought about it and but the way he put it was quite good. He
1:38:59
says what is the deal all of a sudden because when I was a kid
1:39:02
this never happened. There's a storm goes over a football
1:39:06
stadium and a bat evacuate the place because nobody was didn't
1:39:10
want anyone to get killed. Really? Yes. I
1:39:13
Adam Curry: thought that just covered the infield.
1:39:16
John C Dvorak: No, no, they evacuate people did not get hit
1:39:18
by lightning. Well, please, despite the fact that I don't
1:39:22
know anyone has ever been hit by lightning at a football game but
1:39:25
okay, so they evacuate everybody to get him out of there. Oh,
1:39:28
there's lightning and lightning. Now the thing is lightning in
1:39:34
situation where you have a lot of lightning. Usually they put
1:39:36
up a lightning rod Yes, stadiums have them. I'm wondering whether
1:39:41
they do but the point is they still terrorize the people make
1:39:45
them leave. And I don't think there is our light as many
1:39:47
lightning rods as there used to be. And I think this is very
1:39:51
much like the lack of forest management. They just decimated
1:39:56
the places get burned to the ground so paradise gets wiped
1:39:59
out. This is all part of a larger scheme.
1:40:03
Adam Curry: So the idea is, there's lightning coming, you
1:40:07
evacuate everyone from the stadium to the big open parking
1:40:12
lot.
1:40:13
John C Dvorak: I don't know where they send them.
1:40:15
Adam Curry: What is that all about? That doesn't make much
1:40:17
sense. I
1:40:18
John C Dvorak: think they put him out. You know that most
1:40:19
stadiums have a lot of space underneath the stands. They have
1:40:23
bombshell concessions. Oh, go to the bathroom,
1:40:27
Adam Curry: go go, go buy some food. That's what it is. There
1:40:31
you go. One of the ways that quite a few people and I have a
1:40:39
misnomer to call them people because they are in fact Dutch
1:40:42
grandmasters artists who like to create art while we're talking
1:40:47
on the show live and then have it up on the no agenda Art
1:40:50
Generator. Thank you very much to Paul couture for having that
1:40:54
for us for 15 years now probably. I'm just guessing we
1:40:57
should find out the exact first date. And then we were able to
1:41:01
choose from a cornucopia of offerings. Right after we're
1:41:06
done with the show so we can get all up and out. Boom, boom,
1:41:08
boom, Bada bing, hit the pod ping and 90 seconds later you've
1:41:11
got it with funky fresh new art and the art from last. The last
1:41:17
show 1664 We titled that friend assuring came from correct a
1:41:22
record no stranger to the winning art spot. And this was
1:41:29
an inside joke but anybody who listened to the show knew right
1:41:32
away when you see this obvious federal agent showing his
1:41:37
credentials it says What's that in your mouth? Every buddy knows
1:41:41
what's going on with that joke. And it made us laugh let's be
1:41:45
honest. It just tickled us we did look at some other things I
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: think yeah, we try not to use it
1:41:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, right. We That's true. That's true. What
1:41:55
else was there?
1:41:57
John C Dvorak: Nothing really what nothing that was was kind
1:41:59
of was
1:42:00
Adam Curry: a lot of AI chickens. A lot of AI chicks
1:42:03
actually use the Scara mangas crazy chickens the great chicken
1:42:08
What is it you know with all the I use that for the for the pre
1:42:13
stream art this morning? I kind of liked that. There were some
1:42:16
poop balloons nothing really spectacular. The comic strip
1:42:23
John C Dvorak: it was one I liked that was going to use in
1:42:25
the newsletter before I did the dire warning which letter which
1:42:29
one? It was
1:42:31
Adam Curry: kind of like the you kind of like the jury
1:42:34
instructions by Rick Harris. One I
1:42:37
John C Dvorak: liked the war on chickens. I like oh no is the
1:42:40
great chicken, whatever it is by Airbus scaremongers with the
1:42:43
chickens all running for cover.
1:42:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, I use that this morning. I kind of liked
1:42:46
that one. Yeah, it's a good piece but the government agent
1:42:50
with What's that in your mouth? I mean, come on. Come on. That's
1:42:54
brilliant. Brilliant. And then there was some late comers with
1:42:58
the Trump Orange Man guilty but nothing really beat you're right
1:43:02
we tried desperately not to use it and we just could not stay
1:43:04
away from it. It was the best buy hands down the best so thank
1:43:10
you very much correct to record and to all of our another Dutch
1:43:13
Grandmaster or is it just Dutch? No, it's a Dutch master now
1:43:19
grandma, just a Dutch Master I guess. Right?
1:43:22
John C Dvorak: It's not good. The first art piece on this art
1:43:25
generally there was one before that
1:43:31
Adam Curry: wasn't
1:43:33
John C Dvorak: I didn't mean go back and move this. I think it
1:43:36
was 2016 When we first started using this
1:43:40
Adam Curry: Oh, really? I thought it was earlier than
1:43:41
that.
1:43:42
John C Dvorak: There was a there was a different art generator
1:43:45
all but remember, that was Randy and the and I'm not sure whether
1:43:51
Oh, here it is. Well, well, he shot first. By freedom Northwest
1:43:58
episode. Well, these are episodes. Okay, go ahead. Okay,
1:44:01
these are just pulled in. This is bullcrap. The first was
1:44:04
really episode 23 that this Art Generator came into play. And
1:44:11
then it jumped to Episode 120. Now this is just some legacy
1:44:16
legacy put up there. I think episode 201 Yeah, Episode 201 is
1:44:21
when it really began with the picture of the girl coming out
1:44:24
of the swimming pool. That's
1:44:25
Adam Curry: 2009 I
1:44:26
John C Dvorak: guess 2012?
1:44:29
Adam Curry: Really? That was? Okay. Two thirds. So 12 years.
1:44:32
All right. But the I stand corrected 12 years? No, you
1:44:36
John C Dvorak: sit Correct. Oh, no, you're standing. I
1:44:38
Adam Curry: know. I'm sitting right now.
1:44:40
John C Dvorak: Then you sit corrected.
1:44:41
Adam Curry: So we don't do commercials on the show. We
1:44:43
don't take creepy corporate money. There's no subscriptions.
1:44:47
There's no Patreon. There's no the premium content you have to
1:44:52
pay for. We give you the show. The give you the show and we ask
1:44:56
you to return value in any way you can. Now what's interesting
1:44:59
about The model is that really, in a, in a case where it's
1:45:04
really good, it's about it's 3%. It's probably a tad less, but we
1:45:11
have really well we created the model. And we've really honed
1:45:14
it. And, and value for value works for us, we're not going to
1:45:18
be we're never going to be Joe Rogan. That's never gonna
1:45:21
happen. But we get by, you know, the idea that you can ask
1:45:24
everybody just put it in $5 a month, if everybody does it,
1:45:27
then everything's good. We're never having to have to stop for
1:45:30
to ask for anything, that that's a pipe dream, that will never
1:45:33
happen. So I'd like to help people who are considering doing
1:45:37
any value for value podcasts that could give you give you a
1:45:40
little bit of a tip of how this works. One of the one of the
1:45:44
important ingredients of a value for value podcast, really, of
1:45:49
all podcasts, but of a value for value podcast, specifically, is
1:45:54
the newsletter. The newsletter is there to remind you that we
1:46:00
have a show coming up. The newsletter remind you many cases
1:46:07
of the valuable work we have done, and in some cases of the
1:46:10
valuable work that is to come. The next day, it even comes down
1:46:15
to I would say because you are in charge of the newsletter. I'd
1:46:20
say that you even have it down to a science as to what time you
1:46:24
send it out. Do you even do staggered for different
1:46:26
countries?
1:46:28
John C Dvorak: I have done that. But I don't normally do it
1:46:30
anymore because it hasn't showed and to be worthwhile. I do a B
1:46:35
testing occasionally when I think something might work. But
1:46:38
Adam Curry: generally speaking no. Is there a sweet spot of
1:46:42
time that you feel is the right the right time?
1:46:45
John C Dvorak: Well, a couple of things. MailChimp, for one has a
1:46:49
time optimization feature this time
1:46:51
Adam Curry: optimization feature a tough?
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: So you ask it what do you think the best time
1:46:57
it'll be? And so then and I consider it to be very
1:47:00
inconsistent. So I tend to do the newsletter. By the same day
1:47:09
I said when I finished it, I ship it in. And the difference
1:47:13
between shipping newsletter at 1111 3012 1215. A used to be
1:47:18
three o'clock on weekends. I haven't seen any no real
1:47:23
difference. Real important differences. But the day before
1:47:28
for sure. Yeah. Because the next day is the show.
1:47:32
Adam Curry: And and would you say that there's some signs to
1:47:34
the title of the newsletter? Is there are there certain we've I
1:47:38
think we've learned that certain things are not good, like don't
1:47:40
say anti Google stuff, because then it doesn't show up in Gmail
1:47:44
is true. Don't put any like anything. Even the word
1:47:47
Republican is a bad idea. Because even if you're slagging
1:47:50
off Republicans, it's a bad idea. Because I would
1:47:53
John C Dvorak: say yeah, there's a lot of stuff. In fact, we had
1:47:55
a great letter for somebody showing that and I'm gonna
1:47:58
actually write a column like subset column on this on his
1:48:01
note, based on his note, which is the and the column is going
1:48:06
to be called the fixes in regarding the upcoming election.
1:48:11
But that's coming
1:48:13
Adam Curry: on the Oasis soon to come on the on
1:48:15
John C Dvorak: the oasis. And so you ended up with, yes, there
1:48:21
are certain things you can't do. And even talking bad about
1:48:23
Google, I believe, because they look at this stuff. It's like
1:48:29
this, you must be writing bad things about the CIA, because
1:48:32
they see it goes right to the semana. Just go. Turn it down.
1:48:37
We had that a couple of weeks ago, where I said, I forgot what
1:48:39
I was writing about, but nobody opened and how did this happen?
1:48:43
Yeah. So there's some trick.
1:48:46
Adam Curry: So and then one of the most important parts of the
1:48:50
value for value model, which was confirmed by my final and best
1:48:57
wife, Tina, if you don't ask, she thinks that's funny. By the
1:49:02
way, if you don't ask final wave, I'm not embarrassed if you
1:49:08
get through that. And of course, if you don't ask, people will
1:49:11
not give. And she, her whole career spent raising money in
1:49:15
nonprofit organizations, most recently wrong McDonald House
1:49:19
Charities. And she said, you'd be amazed how many people said,
1:49:23
if you ask them, whoa, why didn't you donate to the
1:49:25
charity? Well, no one asked. You'd be amazed. So the
1:49:29
newsletter isn't important part of the value for value model by
1:49:35
saying, hey, please support us 3% of people who do and I bring
1:49:41
this up, because CSB comic strip blogger, who, as far as I know
1:49:46
has never donated to the show. But remember, it's time talent
1:49:50
and treasure and he does
1:49:51
John C Dvorak: he's got plenty of these entities is a prompt
1:49:54
jockey. He's a
1:49:55
Adam Curry: jockey. He contributes lots of art from
1:49:58
time to time, but not Adam does get picked not a monetary
1:50:02
supporter and so he posted the following because he did some
1:50:06
research for us John some research regarding divorce X sad
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puppy low donations newsletter so far I see two main reasons
1:50:17
that listeners mention see attached screenshot that the
1:50:22
main reasons he says why donations are low is one
1:50:28
insulting listeners to supporting Israel only and not
1:50:34
covering what Israel is doing in Palestine. 36,000 Palestinians
1:50:39
killed as revenge for 1200 Israelis killed. And he has
1:50:45
written and he has recommendations. Oh, does he?
1:50:48
Yes. He says, cover more other side not just pro Israel. No,
1:50:54
yeah, that's not what the people want. People want us to do some
1:50:58
kind of Nick Fuentes, the Jews run everything. So you're not
1:51:02
gonna get that from us. We have played all sides. Yeah,
1:51:06
John C Dvorak: we play all sides. And in many shows, we
1:51:08
don't even discuss this issue.
1:51:10
Adam Curry: You know, gosh, because it's, it's just not that
1:51:13
big a deal. Unless you deconstruct and thank you. Yes,
1:51:16
unless you think the Jews control the world and they're
1:51:19
the problem. And the other one, this is interesting. Stop
1:51:24
insulting. Don't call people trolls. Don't bash shit posters
1:51:29
and meme lords. Well, let me say something. Trolls shit posters
1:51:34
and meme Lords don't donate 3% of people who value what we do
1:51:40
donate. So when John sends out the sad puppy, which by the way
1:51:45
is you know, it's never done for any other reason, then donations
1:51:51
are absolutely atrocious. It's a reminder to people. And i My
1:51:59
heart is full today. How about your heart?
1:52:04
John C Dvorak: My hearts healthy. Is it the army because
1:52:07
I didn't get the vaccine?
1:52:09
Adam Curry: Isn't your heart full? To see how
1:52:12
John C Dvorak: I was happy with the results of the newsletter it
1:52:15
became a brought in a lot, which means we're gonna have a
1:52:18
donation segment is a little long. And, and Jay handled it
1:52:22
well. And yeah, he's
1:52:24
Adam Curry: a very well, she did extra she had to crack the whip
1:52:27
today. She had to work very hard. And I
1:52:30
John C Dvorak: wonder so she got up earlier, not only
1:52:32
Adam Curry: did people step up, they stepped up big time. And
1:52:36
almost no one at all. Like no jingles no karma. I just want
1:52:39
you to know I appreciate what you do. This is how value for
1:52:42
value works. And I I am pleased that once again after almost 17
1:52:48
years we have stuck to our guns. We're not pandering to what
1:52:51
people want us to do. We just do our own thing consistently. Now.
1:52:58
We didn't pander when everyone was hanging up Ukraine flags.
1:53:02
When in pander when everybody was saying Shut up, get the
1:53:05
shot.
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: That's for sure. So I want to mention something
1:53:12
about this. His notion that we insult the audience we do. There
1:53:18
is a school of thought in radio, right? You listen to the most
1:53:23
popular guys on radio. That guy? Mark Levin is not in that in the
1:53:30
league I'm talking about I'm talking about the Jim Rome's and
1:53:32
the people who've developed an audience. We're using their own
1:53:36
codes and using their own way of putting people even Rush
1:53:39
Limbaugh, who called his audience ditto heads was
1:53:43
something of an insult. Yeah. And Rome has got a name for his
1:53:48
audience. And it's insulting. And lot it and a lot of audience
1:53:52
members. Producers are not like it. Yes, they do. Because it
1:53:58
shows that you're you're part of the group and you're not just
1:54:01
they they're not just a blob out there. And so and I don't know
1:54:05
what kind of insults he's talking about, we insult him all
1:54:08
the time. You mostly Yes. You're insulting comic strip blogger,
1:54:12
and you don't think he doesn't enjoy it? He
1:54:15
Adam Curry: does. That? I know he does. I've met him in person
1:54:19
once. He's been with me longer than the new.
1:54:23
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was whacking the daily source code.
1:54:26
As a fan of yours. Yes.
1:54:28
Adam Curry: I don't know if he's a fan, but he's been around.
1:54:30
John C Dvorak: Well, he's not not a fan. I mean, he's, well,
1:54:33
he's just one of those hate listeners maybe. Anyway, she's
1:54:37
an insult. We're
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Adam Curry: going to celebrate with our executive and Associate
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real title these these credits are real. This is not some phony
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baloney thing and go to imdb.com and see hundreds probably over
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1000 people now have registered their official show business
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Credit $300 above is an executive producers just the
1:55:03
same way Hollywood works. That's why we call everybody a
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producer. You give us one buck, you're a producer. You make some
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art. You're a producer and an artist that we know and you get
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credit for that too. We credit people for what the work they
1:55:17
do. We appreciate you. And people like to appreciate us
1:55:21
back and the crutch. YOLO parts are known on the spreadsheet
1:55:26
sends us $1,929 Today, which is an outrageous amount and he has
1:55:34
a note because it's of significance to him. ITM jets.
1:55:39
Today is two years since my father passed and since reading
1:55:42
the newsletter and hearing of the dire situation of the
1:55:45
givings. I decided since today is the anniversary of my dad's
1:55:48
passing an amazing father, friend and human. I'm donating
1:55:52
1929 for the year he was born. The two of you sound like
1:55:57
amazing fathers as well. So this is for the two of you as well.
1:56:01
Love is lit. I miss you, Dad and I love you. You are right. I
1:56:05
miss you every day. Just goat karma for all the producers out
1:56:09
there. I was known as Baron crack, but I'm unfamiliar where
1:56:12
my donation puts my new title, if any. Wow, what is what does
1:56:17
it go?
1:56:18
John C Dvorak: I checked it out. I looked at his numbers T is
1:56:21
actually technically in URL, but he doesn't care. But he will be
1:56:24
a Duke shortly. Okay, that's how much he's given us good. And
1:56:28
when he says he'll just wait till it gets there. And
1:56:31
Adam Curry: he closes I'm just happy to be among the best
1:56:34
producers in the world on the best podcast in the universe
1:56:37
from Andy crunchy YOLO Baron soon to be duped crack. You've
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got
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John C Dvorak: your right to an anonymous donation from San
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Antonio. And this came in at 1052 63. So I assumed that they
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added $1,000 donation and picked up this tab which is 52 bucks
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also appreciated for fees. That's why checks are better in
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that regard. But that's okay. John and Adam. Thanks for a
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great show. This is 1052 63 being a listener for many years.
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But first time donor, please do do Schmitz. D deuced. That was
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the one of the guys that when I send a newsletter out like this
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last one that this is the tree shaker. What you end up with San
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Antonio coming in.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. It's beautiful. This is this. If
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you're starting a podcast doing value for value, you got to get
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over yourself. This is how it works. Thank you very much
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anonymous, San Antonio. Don Tommaso no stranger from
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kettleby. Ontario. From Don Tomaso de Toronto responding to
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the newsletter emergency beacon that is all no jingles no karma.
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By the way. This is just over 1500 Canadian dollar dues. We
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John C Dvorak: Another anonymous from Irvine, California 1001 33.
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I'd like to claim the title. Ceramic jar. Night of the loose
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Adam Curry: do. And look at the end by the way that's that is
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101 dot 33. Which is got a little math to it and magic
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number. Yeah, that's good. J S is from Madison Heights
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Virginia. $500. Thanks for all you do Adam and John. I'm a
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millennial single mom, and was headed down the path of wokeness
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until my best friend hit me in the mouth. Please do do Shem for
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never donating dude. Oh, wait. I think she made
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John C Dvorak: us Yeah. Does she mean? We know we
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Adam Curry: know what you mean. Yeah. We know we know what you
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mean. I'm so thankful for your show. Since listening. I've
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mended my ways and I'm now homeschooling my daughter
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teaching her to use a slingshot and just found a raw milk share
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to be part of it. Cheers to you guys and to all lactating cattle
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everywhere. J S. You are an awesome mom is
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John C Dvorak: 500 Yeah, Sir Brian Lawson and Douglas Douglas
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in New York. It's 350 93 and all he says is Sir Brian Lawson of
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Douglaston beautiful
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Adam Curry: Michael Conti and Mansfield Texas. 350 93 no notes
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so give him a double up karma. You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: game fates. First in Pensacola, Florida. 350 93
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John C Dvorak: I put this towards his knighthood. We will
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rectify By the issue as it's a disgrace to the no agenda
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community for a lovely Dame to be married to such a cheapskate
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love you both and God bless no jingles no karma. Oh
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Adam Curry: beautiful. Thank you, sir Dr. Jeff in Arthur turn
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California. Atherton Atherton. Atherton, I think Atherton
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John C Dvorak: that number one expensive zip code in the world.
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Well, that would enrich his zip code in the world that
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Adam Curry: would explain 350 93 PODD father and JC the ITM 30.
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Threes have been following me for the past month hotel rooms
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cab fare, and just this morning, what a dozen eggs a loaf of
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multigrain bread and a gallon of milk cost in the Bay Area. Sir
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Dr. Jeff of the valleys of silica and man hat. Yes, he's
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John C Dvorak: got that right. A dozen eggs, a loaf of multigrain
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bread and a gallon of milk in the San Francisco Bay Area costs
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$350.93. Thanks, Joe Biden. Right. I'm here. Mark Hardwick
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and Ed was in Aledo, Texas Alito. 33333 ITM Keep up the
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good fight. Mark Hardwick in Aledo. Texas, sir
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Adam Curry: day focus. Oh, he doesn't know him. He's the Duke
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of America's heartland and the Arabian pullins Peninsula. Good
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to see him back on the list. Gladstone, Missouri. 333 dot 33.
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Fellas, lovely work of late keep it up. One question for Adam.
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How to podcast joined the live stream of thinking of the
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disaffected podcast, Josh Slocum great podcast, by the way. It's
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on my list, and others that are in the same questioning
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deconstructing milieu. He's in the podcast index. So that's a
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good start. And John, we all get a kick out of how you were
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handling the live stream off that fire truck at Brunetti is
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ranch. You guys are swell. No jingles no karma? Well, it does
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require coordination. Sir Ryan bemrose coordinates all of that
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you
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John C Dvorak: have to you have to lobby you got you do have
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Ryan Vanbrugh. Yes,
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Adam Curry: you got a lobby bemrose and it does require he's
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a grouch by the way.
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John C Dvorak: So no, note that that's the
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Adam Curry: kind of guy you want running the stream. Yes, he's in
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the troll room. You can find him.
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John C Dvorak: Hookers will work but it's it's
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Adam Curry: been known to work. Yes.
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John C Dvorak: Anonymous, Seattle, Washington. 33333. No,
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no,
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Adam Curry: no. All right, double up karma for anonymous
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there. You've got karma. James Martin. The Texans are coming
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out Aubrey Texas. 333 33. ITM saw the sad puppy bad signal and
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had not donated in a while. Just wondering how old the sad puppy
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would be now. And did you ever find happiness? Oh, well, that'd
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John C Dvorak: be dead believe me. Poor dog. Ryan and Tony God
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in Pembroke Massachusetts. 33333 I heard donations for low sad
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33% off too many eggs.com Not that I know of. I can I get a
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Biden whole load and something hot on my leg. Thanks for
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everything. Now.
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Adam Curry: Did we find that hot on my leg? I can't Yes. What was
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it? It's
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John C Dvorak: running down my Oh, so how's it running? I don't
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know. running
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Adam Curry: down my leg.
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John C Dvorak: Just maybe legged the word leg would be Do you
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know how
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Adam Curry: many results leg gives you?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know why would be more than one.
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Adam Curry: Oh my god.
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John C Dvorak: There's so much leg. I want to introduce
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something by the way. Okay. But as an aside, and this is Mimi's
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ID and I thought was a good one. And I thought that I could put
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in the newsletter. She says there's so many people asking
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for baby making karma. We should have a special karma and I put
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one together. Oh, it's on the karma list. You tell me if you
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like it, you can always modify it or whatever. But this is the
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baby making karma. Jingle Oh,
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Adam Curry: you have an actual jingle I'm sorry. Here we go.
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Unknown: karma karma now under karma
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Adam Curry: so that Oh, okay. I got you here.
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: I like it.
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John C Dvorak: I like it. It's a slap on the ass. Yep. And the
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baby crying.
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Adam Curry: I like it. So
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John C Dvorak: now from now on if you want anyone wants baby
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making karma they can. They'll hear that.
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Adam Curry: I still for the life of me can't find the song. It's
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a great bit to the something running down my leg but I can't
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find it. Well, I'll just I'll do a hairy legs. It's all I got.
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Unknown: I'm gonna give you the whole wounded I got hairy legs
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Adam Curry: that's all I'm sorry Someone please send me something
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hard on my legs so I can title it properly I got hairy leg sir
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hold on a second. Oh wait Fletcher Fletcher to the rescue.
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All right Where's Fletcher? Fletcher man, you are the best.
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Something hot on my legs. There we go. Ask and You Shall Receive
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beautiful All right I'm gonna save that in a moment to make
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sure we get that beautiful Fletch, you demand you to me you
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demand back to cert juicy White Marsh Maryland 333 dot 33 saw
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that sad dog in the newsletter worried with short newsletter
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John might be going to kick that puppy. Oh no, though we'd never
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do you'd never kick a puppy. Please use the donation to save
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the puppies life. Jingles a dog yelping? I did get a bark for
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you and don't Raph why you roughing Bark? Bark Bark. Pump
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It Up? Why are you laughing? Shut up. There you go.
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John C Dvorak: Sir, sir Sir Corby in Hamilton Ohio. 33332
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you love you guys house buying karma please Thank gosh or
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Corby.
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Adam Curry: You've got karma I am so having a running down my
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leg. I am so happy to have this now. This is This is fabulous.
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Okay, let me just make sure it shows up in the search this
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write it down run it? Yes. It shows up in the search. Okay.
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butyrate again. Oh, he was not expecting that. Here we go. I
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just felt something hot on my legs. Yeah. 15 forever.
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Beautiful. Beautiful. Then, okay. This is Dragon Slayer st
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from St. George. Where St. George where St. George? Isn't
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it in Canada? doesn't specify. But perhaps it is okay. rather
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long note but there is a title here. So, jingle requests Adam
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get him a cube de Deus, Pisco, my birthday. Nothing like a dame
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switcheroo to Tracy, my wonderful wife of 37 years and
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we never had a fight that resulted in a police response.
2:07:26
At least. She is a self taught Dudette named Bernadette who
2:07:29
started her career with 10 years in public relations for a
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steamboat cruise line. plying the Mississippi and Ohio rivers
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I'm amazed and in awe of her accomplishments. Plus she's an
2:07:40
IT person who was trained to communicate with a non tech
2:07:43
users very rare. In June of last year, we were listening to the
2:07:46
show on the no agenda stream.com And she comments that she would
2:07:49
like to have her 60s birthday included in the birthday
2:07:52
segment, please add to the list so dumb. I initiated a plan to
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surprise Tracy with a very own executive producer ship on her
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60th birthday which is today June 2. Happy Birthday My love
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and enjoy being executive producer of show 1665 But wait,
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there's more. Yes, it's a trifecta. Today my year long
2:08:11
scheme comes to fruition and I humbly request my wife to be
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granted the title of Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite are it II
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thank you for sharing the past 37 years with many more to come.
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I love you. Dragon Slayer in St. George please play biscuit on my
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birthday. There's nothing like a dame and he says depending on
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timing of this segment while you took it all anyway Tracy and I
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are listening while at the third annual no agenda South Louisiana
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crawfish boil meetup hosted by Dame Mary moon and Serge dewclaw
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in Prairie Village Louisiana. Pinch the tails and set the head
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they always give me a biscuit on my
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Unknown: birthday. There is nothing like
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Adam Curry: nice nice note brother.
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John C Dvorak: Good no Maxwell Los Alamos New Mexico. I did get
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my I got the challenge going by the way.
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Adam Curry: So you got it. From White Sands cool. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: 315 85 Thanks for all you do. keep on keepin on.
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Goat karma, please.
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Adam Curry: You've got karma. onto real side real estate
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education. Westville Ohio. 300. The puppies got me keep it up.
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Thank you.
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John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Wembley downs, Washington. Yeah,
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Western Australia. That's what it is. Dear John, and Adam, I
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will continue to listen and learn and appreciate pretty much
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all the shows. Pretty much. Let me start over because I'm adding
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your ad libbing something it's unnecessary. I know I'm thinking
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of myself. Is that 250 Take him there is that really 250
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American dollars because then if that's west deaths australian
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dollar reduces about 350. Yeah. Wow there John and Adam, I
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continue to listen and learn and appreciate greatly all that the
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show has done to reassure me that I'm not crazy. Love and lit
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and no Genos no karma from anonymous in Perth. All right,
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thank
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Adam Curry: you Western Western Australia. Dane Beth ah another
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familiar name tucson arizona row of ducks. 20 escaped Jeremy I'm
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sorry. Jeremy gray. There we go. Uh Waso Oklahoma. 250. longtime
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listener first time donor, please do you do? You've been de
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Deus.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, they invest in Tucson. A tu, tu tu tu tu tu
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Aurora ducks. Heil boys headed to Southern California and
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hosting the 805 pop up meet up at the Galena HG rooftop Bistro
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on Thursday, June 6 from four to 7pm. Join us for libation snacks
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in conversation thank you very courage no jingles Well, karma
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Dame Beth Baroness Baroness of Baja Arizona.
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Adam Curry: Derek Shaq is in Lucerne. Lucerne, Michigan. Rove
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ducks 222 dot 22 Thanks, guys. You're the best John You always
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make me laugh Adam. I'm so happy you found Jesus. I think an ISO
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leaderboard would be fun. Give me a listen to that horn
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followed by the classic Shut up slave. Sama some I missed the
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Shut up slave but we have we love the Shut up slave. Oh my
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god. Slave Yeah, you go.
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John C Dvorak: God Vinny Sinead, an ephah tu tu tu tu tu here's a
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row of ducks. Can we get some general karma? Absolutely.
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Adam Curry: You've got karma. And another row of ducks 222
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from Nancy Nichols in Waco, Texas. Thank you Texas for
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coming out. No notes that will give you a double up karma.
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You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: your bad potato in Havre, Montana. It was so
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what are you drinking? See the juice Fauci wheeze are to deed
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to karma. There's a switch rooms highlighted but you should note
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this is a switcheroo for my son Christian to put him on his path
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to knighthood please de douche bad deed deuced having received
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my signed copy of too many eggs the ABC book and coloring book I
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have to say that gate view publishing delivers an
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outstanding product
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Adam Curry: that's right. Thanks
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John C Dvorak: for the advice by the way I've been using code
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been Gino everywhere. Pro tip it works exceptionally well at the
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Walmart self checkout go away. Here's your cutter the rich
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savings came with 222 as a producer of the show. This is
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not a donation but rather an investment into the continuation
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of this fine product please be pleased about praise sorry
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praise beat all producers I I think I can speak for the most
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of them when I say we all love you too and really appreciate
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all that you do. I enjoy the different takes you both
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promote. Please keep it going. Sir bad potato. All right. Oh my
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gosh.
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Unknown: Can you see that juice?
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Adam Curry: You've got karma. And I'll do these two in a row
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because neither of them have notes. Although David did say he
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sent to know to look for it. Couldn't find it. Andrew
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Creswick Painesville, Ohio 222. No notes. So a double up karma
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for him. You've got karma. And there's David Popo Narara in New
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South Wales, Australia to 1060 and also for him a double of
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karma. You've got
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John C Dvorak: karma. So now we get to Eli Eli, the coffee guy
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in Bensenville, Illinois. 20602. And he says John, I love the
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good news segment. But if you ever get rid of it, replace it
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with a tip of the day. Yes.
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Adam Curry: Do you have us what we've done? I doing a tip of the
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day today.
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John C Dvorak: I do have a tip of the day.
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Adam Curry: Oh, excellent.
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John C Dvorak: Thanks to a great tip I heard on the show a few
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years ago we recently tried a SOT turn paired with flogger. Ah
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yes, that's the combo one.
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Adam Curry: That's the one it always works.
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John C Dvorak: It's a never a combo I'd normally have gone for
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but we loved it. In fact Thought tours especially if you have a
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good one that's that's just a beauty
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Adam Curry: it's how I got my try this is how I got my final
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and best wife
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John C Dvorak: well that's another tip I'll just say saw
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turn will get you laid. There you go. Can I get a more you
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know jingle for producers looking for a fresh roasted
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Unknown: the more you know in the morning
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Adam Curry: beautiful Eli thank you we have Eric constable
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Jacksonville Florida night may sir banks wrangler May I please
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have Spanish cucumbers at the roundtable May your exit
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strategy be dying at the mic? That will be dying will pull die
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spit yes we all die spitting into the mic. Erica.
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Jacksonville. Wouldn't it be cool if one of us just died on
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the show alive?
2:16:03
John C Dvorak: Um yeah, that mean it's a bummer. I mean that
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whether it be 20 years from now
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Adam Curry: yeah, that will be that will be more I can take
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more than 20 if you don't mind. For 98 Thank you Oh, it's
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starting. Thank you ma'am. Have
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John C Dvorak: an MRA and vaccine speeded up a bit there
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you go. Your Linda IUPAC in there she is in Lakewood
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Adam Curry: that she was you put it on now I'm gonna have to put
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her credit like that Linda Lou she inherited Linda is Liu Linda
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loose and now she's Asian. Linda? Yeah, that's great. Well,
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John C Dvorak: it'd be worse if is L e. W.
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Adam Curry: Couple more here and the Associate Executive
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producers. John and Adam $200. from Rio Verde, Arizona. This is
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Sir Ian Pope DC please MO The pope of cycling. I'm an avid
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cyclist, former spin instructor hence the nickname values to
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spin back in the day. I always crack up when you guys try to be
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my nickname. I know I'm now an expat in Portugal. And loving
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every moment of it where all the criminals go to hide out. I'm
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working very hard to become professional, useless human
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resource. I heard you call your call and decide to share some of
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my criminal profiteering and there you go. After all, as per
2:17:56
atom people that go to Portugal are criminals. Anyways, here's
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the share of my treasure that I humbly offer to keep you around
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for four more years. A heartfelt thank you to both to both of you
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sir eel Pope diseq ciclismo a proud no agenda Blacknight and
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allegedly a criminal of some sort. PS karma is requested. You
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got it, brother. You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: I will say that Portugal is the place to go. If
2:18:23
you're on the lam. Well, or if you just want to retire
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someplace cheap. Yeah, it's really a dynamite country. Sir
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Lady Boy in Mount Laurel, New Jersey 200 smokin hot wife
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jingle sorry, John. Shout out to Black Knight their love for
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coming to the south Jersey meetup. Sir Lady Boy formerly
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known as Bobby brindle horse, Mount Laurel, New Jersey
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Adam Curry: Thank you very much, sir. Lady Boy, sir. Mack and
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Dame Lauren aren't Odenton Maryland. podington Oh, Denton.
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200. Sir Mack and Dame Lauren saw the desperate plea via
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LinkedIn. Did you post it on LinkedIn? Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: I've now posted desperate
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Adam Curry: Hey, it worked. It worked. There's
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John C Dvorak: proof that I post that's funny. Well, he's worked
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with her. Yeah. Or him or both of both of them. i i Now repost
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the newsletter on LinkedIn. Yes, I do that excellent. And getting
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mainly because somebody on LinkedIn was I was done they're
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saying yes, I say yes to anybody who wants you should
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Adam Curry: you should post it on tick tock.
2:19:43
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. I'm thinking about it. But anyway,
2:19:46
so I somebody said, Rob, we got more reach here with the general
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I'm not gonna reach, reach, reach, you gotta reach
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everybody. You gotta go to Instagram and get reached around
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Sir Rain Man in wolf fourth Wolfforth whoa fourth Texas 200
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Adam Curry: man, Texas Tech shish hottie
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John C Dvorak: am John anatomy genius noodle gun and Fauci
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wheeze I'm overdue for a donation even though I'm on a
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sustaining donation and a night please de douche me you've been
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de deuced just wanted to say thank you both for all that you
2:20:29
do I'm restarting a new job and Monday in a new industry leaving
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higher education has gone to crap so TPP dot jobs calm would
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be appreciated also my birthday is on June 7 I'll be turning 28
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So please add me to the list. I have to let you know that baby
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making karma works it'll work even better now. My wife and I
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had our first human resource back in October and we couldn't
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Adam Curry: looked. I did not see it. Did you see it?
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John C Dvorak: You know, I didn't look so. You read the
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last one. And I'll look at this for this one.
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Adam Curry: Okay, Peter, the cattle farmer is in high
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Farndale in the UK. Bah. Oh, be careful. Be careful that bird
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Peter the cattle farmer and hi Farndale, Yorkshire, England. I
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North Yorkshire and I've never heard of Peter the cattle
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farmer. Can you remember what you should? I want to de Lucia?
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De deuced. Just in case, just in case, just in case. Did you find
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anything from Jacob Davis?
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John C Dvorak: I got Mark. I got Taylor. I got
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Adam Curry: no. Okay. Well, Jacob, send it to Adam
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