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Adam Curry: I'm washed up. Adam
curry Jhansi Devorah tonight
2024 This Year Award winning
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assassination episode 1667 This
is no agenda, defying climate
despair and broadcasting live
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country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: If another
Silicon Valley where we all
agree that Eric Sean on Fox is
annoying. I'm John C double x.
Adam Curry: Kill Eric who?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's been
25 years. Eric
Adam Curry: Shawn. Yeah. I've
never even heard of this guy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he shows up
a lot more than you used to. But
he's been there forever. He's he
is the Trump hitman. And he if
you see a picture of me he looks
like an IRS agent who never got
promoted.
Adam Curry: I honestly, I don't
have cable anymore. though.
Yeah, that kind of ruins it,
doesn't it?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, again, we
get Fox. Well, I
Adam Curry: have YouTube TV. So
John C Dvorak: I guess I could
watch the YouTube TV has Fox I
know. But I only have
Adam Curry: that, you know, for
a backup in case there's
something I really need to
watch. Now ever since Tucker
left the fox became
uninteresting. I think that's
when it all went downhill. And
they just became, you know,
lame. They were already kind of
lame. But isn't that all that we
ever watched? Did you watch Do
you watch Fox and Friends in the
morning?
John C Dvorak: No, I watch if
I've watched Fox I watched gut
failed. No.
Adam Curry: Of course you do.
Yeah. That's good. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And, and then I
might watch the five. Oh, maybe
I think
Adam Curry: also ever since
Jesse waters took over like the
prime time spot is like, just
done. It's like, he's goofy.
John C Dvorak: He is goofy. He's
Adam Curry: goofy. You know, at
least if Tucker at least we
could watch and say let's see if
he has what we had three days
ago. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: A month ago.
Adam Curry: Now he did the high
start to catch up. It started to
become like Sunday and then
Monday are
John C Dvorak: catching up. They
had to get rid of him. Yeah,
exactly.
Adam Curry: He got too close to
the truth. Exactly right. Well,
as we predicted, as we predicted
on non Thursday, the heat dome
is here who's to
Unknown: coast tonight scorching
triple digit temperatures from
California to Florida, across
the West. 50 million people
under a heat dome all notice as
carbon dioxide is accumulating
faster than ever in the
atmosphere. Notice
Adam Curry: that has nothing to
do with the heat dome. But no,
it just says that we'll just
associated we're
John C Dvorak: gonna get this
report where you throw carbon
dioxide it's got nothing to do
with this MBC baby
Unknown: site is accumulating
faster. All this as Noah says
under a heat dome. All this as
notice as carbon dioxide is
accumulating faster than ever in
the atmosphere acting like a
blanket over the earth and
warming the planet. The EU finds
globally the last 12 months have
each been the hottest ever on
record.
We need to very seriously people
are dying. People are
dying mass
John C Dvorak: cold here. I
mean, stop the presses. It's
cold and right now to
temperatures throughout cold.
kinda cold, but it's 56 or so.
And the heat dome was here for
two days. The fog rolled and
it's been colder this year than
it was last year. Another record
breaking cold for the Bay Area.
Who are we kidding?
Adam Curry: I love how riled up
you get over this because they
lie. No, they're not lying.
They're saying there's a heat
dome. And then she says all this
as Noah says there's more carbon
dioxide has nothing to do with
the heat dome. But then she
brings it brings in the blanket.
The blanket is killing people.
But that's NBC. How about the
elitist voices from NPR?
Unknown: The heat dome is a big
pocket of high pressure that
locks in heat. Okay,
what is the connection between
climate change generally and
this specific heat event?
Adam Curry: This is Didn't you
want to know this once you would
you interest there's never
John C Dvorak: been a high
pressure system in the history
of mankind until climate change.
No
Adam Curry: 1936 We had a very
big No way. Yes, it was one of
the most severe heat waves that
took place in the middle of the
Great Depression and the Dust
Bowl 1936 1936 when we didn't
have any climate change back
then or maybe we did I don't
know. But it was the same
temperature but now now this
high pressure system which as
far as I can tell has nothing to
do with carbon dioxide has
everything to do with carbon
dioxide According to NPR
Unknown: they're intimately
connected.
Adam Curry: intimately connected
there they haven't they making
love out there on the beach
general Li and
Unknown: this specific heat
event
they're intimately connected
save, you know, humans burn oil
and gas and coal it releases
planning.
Adam Curry: Are we going to get
through anything today? Are you
just one Oh,
John C Dvorak: he's just one of
those sorts of clips.
Adam Curry: This is good stuff,
man. This is why we're here so
people can feel good about
knowing that they're being
bullcrap till
Unknown: it releases carbon
dioxide and other planet warming
gases, those gases, they
accumulate in the atmosphere
over the course of decades and
all that excess gas traps heat
and that directly leads to
higher temperatures worldwide
directly, it helps drive these
extreme heat events, temperature
get even
Adam Curry: she's kind of
waffling around, like okay, so
carbon dioxide, according to her
heats up the air, but has
nothing to do with the heat dome
directly
Unknown: leads to higher
temperatures worldwide. It helps
drive these extreme heat events,
where the temperature gets
really high and sees really high
like what we're seeing. And in
fact, scientists can say that
the most intense heat waves that
are happening right now would be
literally impossible without
human caused climate change. So
John C Dvorak: literally
impossible, literally. That that
does include the Dust Bowl,
literally impossible without
scorched the earth and resulted
in everyone from Oklahoma moving
into California and 30s not
Texas, because they're part of a
worldwide depression. Yeah,
nothing like that. No, no, no,
nothing
Adam Curry: like that. literally
impossible.
Unknown: It's a really close
connection.
Our news here is a really close
connection. Oh, lady that carbon
dioxide levels are hitting a
record. Many people who follow
this are aware that the United
States has been cutting its
greenhouse gas emissions. How
does that work?
Adam Curry: Yeah, what
Unknown: states has been cutting
its greenhouse gas emissions.
Yeah,
yeah, that didn't happen. That's
but yeah, quite small. This was
last year and two years before
that. The US emissions actually
increased each year. So the
bigger picture here is that, you
know, one, the US decrease in
emissions is not that big, and
to a lot of other countries are
not cutting their emissions. So
altogether, it's definitely not
enough on its own to reverse
this trend of co2 accumulation.
There is the question of the
rest of the world which is the
majority of the world's people
and the majority of the economic
activity
Adam Curry: No, no, no, we've
got to kill the cows you got to
eat bugs? Or is there something
else we can do? Rebecca Hirscher
Unknown: so how is the carbon
dioxide level measured? Well,
scientists continuously measure
co2 in the atmosphere and every
single year the peaks
Adam Curry: how how he said how
co2 amount sets
Unknown: a new record because
humans keep adding more co2
faster than it can break down
this has been happening since
scientists started measurements
in 1958. And because scientists
are able to use other methods as
well to estimate how much co2
was oh it's an
Adam Curry: estimation he sees
she's She didn't answer the
question. He said how do they do
it? Well, they got other methods
they estimate models perhaps
Unknown: and because scientists
are able to use other methods as
well to estimate how much
Adam Curry: I don't know it
shows other other than what is
NPR man
Unknown: estimated how much co2
was in the atmosphere going back
millennia? We can actually say
with confidence that there's
more carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere now than there has
been in millions of years.
Millions
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Adam Curry: The dinosaurs had
what 10 times as much carbon
dioxide so they could actually
survive millions
John C Dvorak: wasn't for the
dinosaurs benefit for for plants
you have that much carbon
dioxide plants go nuts. You need
big giant plants for the
dinosaur
Adam Curry: to eat. Yes, that's
why yes, giant
Unknown: then there has been
even this guy is going millions
millions of years and
millions and millions of years.
Okay, so how high is this
number?
Well, the exact number is 426.9
parts per million of co2 in the
atmosphere. That may not sound
like a lot parts per million.
But the earth is really really
like a lot as point.
John C Dvorak: Oh 4% Are you
kidding me? Yes,
Adam Curry: of which the US is
what are we responsible? 30% of
that? Oh point 4% I
John C Dvorak: don't know I
brought or No, I 20%. But there
was just a make
Unknown: per million. But the
earth is really really sensitive
to changes in the atmosphere. A
little bit of extra co2 chops, a
lot of heat, but really sticks
out is that this number is
significantly higher than last
year. It was a really, really
big jump really, really, June
the atmosphere is actually
accelerating. Rebecca
thanks for the update. Really
appreciate it.
Thanks so much. Really.
Adam Curry: Here's Rebecca
Hirsch bullshit, massive bull
crap mass which
John C Dvorak: the problem with
this debt clip and everything
else that you've been hearing is
that the clip I have? Oh, this
is the problem a which I find to
be very distressing. We haven't
talked about this too much. It
does come up in the
conversation. Yes, but this is
the clip about The psychological
effects this is typical, the
psychological effects of lying
to the public about all this
stuff in a negative way, this is
the micro climate effects on
children.
Unknown: A child born today will
live an entire life shaped by
climate change. But a new report
in the journal The Lancet, finds
that children may not be getting
due consideration in a country's
climate adaptation policies and
peers Alejandra Varuna has more.
Most countries in the world now
have written plans for how to
deal with climate change. But
when a team of researchers
looked at 160 of them, they
found a notable gap. About a
quarter didn't have any policy
goals specifically aimed at
helping and protecting children.
And none had any plans to
address the growing problem of
climate related anxiety amongst
young people. Another recent
analysis found that nearly 60%
of kids surveyed worldwide were
very or extremely worried about
climate change. The researchers
suggest getting kids directly
involved in climate policy
decisions since it's their lives
that will be most affected.
Adam Curry: Oh, you let the kids
get involved? Yeah, this I think
the climate change PR company
has been working because Time
magazine, or time.com, I should
say. Also had quite the article
they only they call it climate
despair.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's what
the kids are experiencing
climate despair. How did they
get this way? Of course, from
the from the teachers who are
scientists, and the other idiots
that are ruining their lives. So
Adam Curry: the time starts off
with forget climate anxiety,
many people are either in flat
out climate despair, hands up
trolls, if you're in climate
despair, let me see all the
hands. According to this
article, two thirds of Americans
65% report being worried about
global warming, which of course
we know every single poll puts
it at the bottom. They're like,
how about the economy? Good
John C Dvorak: point about all
these polls do come out during
the election periods and climate
change is not up there.
Adam Curry: If the threat is
existential, is there value in
sorting out how you feel about
it? The very first step is full
validation, says Lesley
Davenport, a climate psychology
educator, oh boy, and author of
books including emotional
resilience in the era of climate
change, a clinicians guide, and
she has seven handy tips. As it
says here climate aware
therapists here share their most
effective coping strategy from
going from overwhelmed to
empowered Are you interested in
hearing some tips on how to
John C Dvorak: yes and no?
Adam Curry: What's the no part
John C Dvorak: is that this is a
terrible thing to be discussing.
But we I think you should at
least roll out these fabulous
tips and I'm sure this should be
at the top of everyone's list of
things to do. Okay,
Adam Curry: first of all, top of
the list talk about it. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that's what we're
doing. We're number one. Yes,
Adam Curry: climate change tends
to get the religion and politics
treatment people avoid talking
about it. Join the don't here's
here's, here's, here's part of
this tip is join a climate cafe.
Hello, is there join a climate
Cafe these are discussed
John C Dvorak: with the hills a
climate Cafe these
Adam Curry: these are discussion
spaces, both online and in
person where people can talk
freely about their fears and
other feelings related to
climate change
John C Dvorak: is like
sensitivity training.
Adam Curry: I think all I know
is in this encounter group. This
may be as popular as the
internet cafes of the of the
early 90s. Get yourself a
climate cafe. Or you could shot
change the good grief network,
which is a peer support group
that follows a 10 step approach
John C Dvorak: to Oh, we've gone
from seven to 10
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is
we're still number one. Number
two is use your connections. Use
your connections because you
know connection
John C Dvorak: that it has
connections protection, and it
will save us from climate
change. Is that what they said?
Well, you have connections you
want to have climate change.
What are they talking about?
Research
Adam Curry: suggests that the
lonelier and more socially
isolated someone feels the
higher their levels of climate
distress. So freely,
John C Dvorak: it seems to me
somebody's completely out of the
loop. They won't even know about
this.
Adam Curry: You've got to find
your people, which is of course
no agenda meetups.com We're so
on. We've got number one and
number two. You could also join
local land restoration efforts.
Get involved with involved with
community gardening.
John C Dvorak: Put a garden in
your backyard. Oh wait, these
are all apartment dwellers who
we're talking about who are all
into this because they can't
afford a house because they're
sitting around fretting about
climate changes that are doing
some work. Number
Adam Curry: three, analyze your
carbon footprint. This will help
some people cope with climate
distress by distancing
themselves from the problem,
they ignore it hoping it will
just go away. It's more
effective to take the energy of
all those emotions and redirect
them into constructive action.
You can use an online calculator
to track your carbon footprint,
you'll feel better about
yourself.
John C Dvorak: That would assess
Yes, yes. What
Adam Curry: about cutting co2
emissions by taking the train
instead of an airplane? Be
honest with yourself. Number
three on the list, share your
John C Dvorak: London a
calculation of a train bus to
build and operate in terms of
carbon footprint compared to a
plane. I
Adam Curry: just love doing
these with you, you know, God
felt should be ashamed of
himself. He hasn't had you on
the show yet. Awesome. Number
three, share your views. This is
no time for humility. Make sure
everyone around you noticed that
you're going to combat climate
change. If you're surrounded by
people,
John C Dvorak: wow, that's a
good one.
Adam Curry: To wear the t shirt.
If you're surrounded by people
who don't appear to prioritize
the environment as much as you
do lead by example. Rather than
trying to change their minds,
grow fruits and vegetables,
share them with your neighbors.
John C Dvorak: It's a good idea.
Adam Curry: We're on to the next
point make it a family affair.
This is how you really get to
the kids. Research suggests that
climate change is especially
affecting young people's mental
health. If your kids are coming
to you with concerns, slap them
upside the head, tell them to
knock it off. Oh wait. That's
not what it says. If your kids
are coming to you with concerns,
listen and validate them. Then
get imaginative about your home
how your whole family can take
action together. Can
John C Dvorak: you imagine this?
What you just described?
Actually, somebody doing this
What's slapping the kid worried
sick as he's just got out of
school. He's worried sick. He's
fretting. He's was hand wringing
he or she hand wringing crying
perhaps about the climate? And
then you're going to validate
this? Yeah. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. This is what
you do. This is what you do. Get
artsy is the next one on the
list? Yes. Making art can help
people regulate and work through
their emotions. You're doing
pattern repetitive movements and
getting into a flow state. Tell
them to code. It's calming.
John C Dvorak: Learn to code
calming. Learn
Adam Curry: to get into the flow
state of coding. You can use
colors, shapes and lines to
express how you're feeling.
John C Dvorak: Really? Yes,
final
Adam Curry: one on the list.
Savor time outside. Yes.
spending time outside in green
spaces will benefit your well
being. love and grief are two
sides of the same coin. Be Yes.
So there's some kind of some
kind of PR to the end of the
show could have been our tip.
No, I got it's my turn for the
tip of the day. So I got a tip
of the day. Oh, I have
John C Dvorak: a tip. No, don't
do go to Tim. No, no link tip.
Adam Curry: No. You said it was
my turn to do the tip. You made
this. Why'd you
John C Dvorak: have to start
doing Yes. I didn't quite say
that. But it's fine you if you
have a
Adam Curry: tip. Alright, we'll
both do a tip at the end of the
show. It'll be dueling Tip of
the day, but only only the tip.
John C Dvorak: I like dueling
Tip of the Day. All right, we'll
Adam Curry: do Duolingo and then
we should
John C Dvorak: do a vote off.
Adam Curry: Okay, sounds good.
Speaking of traumatizing
terrorizing your kids, there is
some actual good news. Good
news. And this comes from of
course, you're not going to hear
much about it. They had a press
conference and well, there was a
little clip somewhere but that
was about it. The American
College of Pediatrics came out
with a press conference. This
was this was a little bit like
the were the doctors during
COVID who went on the steps of
the Senate remember then they
all had the lab coats on
John C Dvorak: I'm trying to
think of what they were called
Adam Curry: yeah that a kind of
good name is like doctors cute
name Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Doctors for
doctors, real doctors. Yeah
Adam Curry: real with real
doctors.
John C Dvorak: Actual doctors
line we
Adam Curry: have the frontline
the frontline doctors,
John C Dvorak: Frontline,
frontline something something,
whatever. So it's kind
Adam Curry: of similar. They
have a woman spokesperson.
Everyone has their lab coats on
that did the guy emblems you
know, they look official. They
are official. They've released a
whole lot of survey. Data and
here's what they had to say.
Unknown: And we have serious
concerns about the physical and
mental health effects of the
current protocols promoted for
the care of children and
adolescents in the United States
who expressed discomfort with
their biological sex. This
declaration was authored by the
American College of
Pediatricians. But really it was
developed from the expertise of
hundreds of doctors, researchers
and other health care workers
and leaders, who for years have
been sounding the alarm on the
harmful protocols that continue
to be promoted by the medical
organizations in the United
States goals. Despite recent
revelations from the leaked W
path files, and the recent
release of the final report from
the cast review, these medical
organizations have not changed
course. So we are calling on
these medical organizations of
the United States, including the
American Academy of Pediatrics,
The Endocrine Society, the
pediatric Endocrine Society, the
American Medical Association,
the American Psychological
Association, and the American
Academy of Child and Adolescent
Psychiatry to follow the science
and their European colleagues.
And immediately stop the
promotion of social affirmation,
puberty blockers, cross sex
hormones and surgeries for
certain for children and
adolescents who experience
distress over their biological
sex. In our declaration, we
affirm that sex is a dimorphic
innate trait defined in relation
to an organism's biological role
in reproduction, male and
female. This genetic signature
is present in every nucleated
somatic cell in the body, and is
not altered by drugs or surgical
interventions. Consideration of
these innate differences is
critical to the practice of good
medicine, and to the development
of sound policy for children and
adults alike. Medical Decision
Making should be based upon an
individual's biological sex, it
should respect biological
reality and the dignity of the
person by compassionately
addressing the whole person. We
are here to find the claims made
by these medical organizations
in the US that those of us who
are concerned are a minority,
and that their protocols are
consensus. They are not
consensus, and we are speaking
in a loud unified voice Enough,
Adam Curry: enough. Amen.
Unknown: Amen to that. Enough,
John C Dvorak: I saw this. Did
you see at the same time this
was going on there? Was that
weird? a drag queen, female or
guide or what it was at the
Texas Democrat convention? Oh,
yeah. Yeah, pretty much saying
the exact same opposite. This is
hopeless. The problem is the way
I see it, yeah. With people like
Kaiser Foundation and all these
health organizations is that
this is a moneymaker bonanza.
It's a bonanza. And so what if
the kids are scarred for life or
they commit suicide three years
later? Who cares? Their money to
be made from these processes is
too much. And then these people
that are involved with this
group here that you're just
played, will all be rebuked? The
trying to break us there.
Adam Curry: At the same time,
what I found a little maybe even
more interesting is that the
covenant school Tennessee
shooter Audrey Hale, they have
they recovered a journal, the
Tennessee star, reprinted pieces
of it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that before just
to preface what you're gonna
say, we had one of the police
doing that investigation,
contact us and we played it, or
I discussed this or read from
this note, and we discussed it,
he had already seen the entire
thing. And it was horrendous.
Well,
Adam Curry: the part that is
interesting, these are these so
this is not the manifesto, but
this is part of this child's
journal. And I'll just quote
from the piece here later Hale
wrote, I will be of no use of
love for any girl if I don't
have what they need a boy's body
a male gender. Next to these
remarks, hail illustrated the
words everything hurts, which
she used repeatedly throughout
the journal. While the source of
hails purported discomfort is
unclear, mosquitoes must
musculoskeletal pain is a
possible side effect of
medication that was prescribed
to hell by staff at the
Vanderbilt University Medical
Center, of course, but who knows
what that was. But in addition
to this pain, the National
Institutes of Health explains
the side effects of that
medication. The anti anxiety
drug buce pirone include
abnormal dreams, outbursts of
anger, tremors and physical
weakness. Hail was additionally
prescribed. S Khatallah pram,
better known as Lexapro and
Medical News Today explains that
using the depression drug with
busick prone could could quote
increase the risk of the side
effects, which is outbursts of
anger, etc. Stop putting kids on
these drugs. Let's start with
that. And
John C Dvorak: that's all Oh,
that's no good. It's costing us
money.
Adam Curry: We got to boots. Did
you see the email from our I
asked him if I could read some
of this from our producer who
was in the testing industrial
complex during COVID. Speaking
of money, the Bonanza that it
was, these was a very long
email. I don't know if you read
it. I didn't see it. He says the
company I work for had the
contracts to test about 225,000
students and staff on a weekly
basis. This was the Los Angeles
United school district provide a
unified and the contracts to
test half of the LAUSD for one
school year was how much you
think that was $20 million $750
million.
John C Dvorak: I'm a little low.
Adam Curry: Just a tad. Another
company had the contract to test
the other half. When it started,
we had 800 health care workers
flown in, living in hotel rooms
in and around Los Angeles
getting $87 Per Diem so each day
you get 87 bucks to do stuff
with at the time we were the
largest US customer for Hertz
rent a car with nearly 500
vehicles. Eventually to help the
economy. We transition to all
local employees hired as
temporary W tos. At the end we
had 1200 employees on the
project. The lab we contracted
with was in Oakland, California.
So twice a day Monday through
Friday. Samples were flown from
Van Nuys Airport up to Oakland
by a contracted company using
their own aircraft. And then he
goes on to say about he says
working with the LAUSD was a
nightmare as you can imagine the
DEI bullshit was off the charts.
Both the LAUSD and company I
worked for suffered mightily
from the incompetence inherent
to dei literal effing idiots
toxic, paranoid narcissists.
When no Biden's vaccine mandate
came down, their true fastest
nature was exposed, exposed, I
had to fire people who did not
want the poison Vax because
LAUSD did not want the unclean
in their schools. And then, our
boots on the ground producer has
his own confession, he says, I
know I will burn in hell for
what I did, which I am ashamed
to admit I did out of greed,
having gorgeous, I love that
he's no, you will not bother
you. And I'm praying for you.
Having never made a lot of
money, and in the previous 10
years living outside the normal
financial system, and only
making about $24,000 a year I'm
ashamed to say the temptation of
$250,000 a year was too much to
withstand. I knew all about the
Nuremberg Code, but on every
occasion I attempted to discuss
with my superiors, I was
rebuffed, I still have a lump on
my head from banging it against
the wall in frustration on an
hourly basis. Any attempt to
improve operations or efficiency
had to be measured against the
potential loss of revenue. So
the more inefficient and the
more people required, the more
money make my company made.
Remember that contract was for
up to $750 million? No way in
hell, they would leave money on
the table. Ah. So that that
that's it. That's really what
what is happening with these
trans kids? That's what's
happening with the entire
pharmaceutical system, the
system, the system itself, the
system? And yes, of course,
there are good doctors. I got a
sweet note from one of our
doctors said we're not all
horrible. No, of course you're
not with generalizing.
John C Dvorak: It is not the
doctors fault. Usually. It's the
protocols. Yes, it Yeah, the
doctors have to go especially if
they're working for some
organization. They have to
follow the protocols. They're
just simply get fired. And
meanwhile I ever met in and
hydroxy, Chloroquine and all
that stuff was thrown out the
door because No, no, no, it's
not at a protocol you can't do
and you couldn't get
Adam Curry: emergency use
authorization if there was
something that could fix the
problem.
Unknown: And then we come to the
VAX this morning chiefs
defensive end Vijay Thompson
recovering following a medical
emergency sources say the 25
year old Thompson appeared to
suffer a seizure and go into
cardiac arrest during a team
meeting Thursday
while I'm arrowhead drive
cardiac arrest. There's a doctor
on site and CPR is in progress
at this time.
Team doctors and trainers are
working to stabilize the young
player before an ambulance
rushed him to a nearby hospital.
The Chiefs canceling practice,
but not offering any official
comment. How critical are those
first few minutes post cardiac
event?
The first few minutes and even
seconds are critical. We know
that every second that the heart
is not pumping blood as it
should to the brain and the rest
of the body. The probability of
having a good outcome declines
precipitously as
a rookie defensive lineman
Thompson played in one game last
season showing promise on a team
that took home yet another Super
Bowl championship. His college
coach writing prayers up for SFA
football zone. BJ Thompson,
thankful for the Chiefs medical
team, as the rapid and excellent
response made the difference.
Adam Curry: Now you've been
following sports ball for many,
many years. Have you ever seen
this many cardiac arrest round
John C Dvorak: is happening
commonly. And it's the whole sub
stack column dedicated to this.
I think I sent you one of these
ones. Everyone's will send you
one because it has too many
people in it. The last time he
did one, I can't remember this.
I have to hit the nail. You got
it? Yeah, tips, put it in the
tips. Yeah. But it's the guy
follows all this. And he
recently just did all these
celebrities that that were rock
and roll musicians that are
starting to drop left and right.
are having these heart attacks
just out of the blue. And it's
it's pretty well, I have a
series of clips. Peter
McCullough coming up later, can
Adam Curry: I play the payoff to
this one, and then we can
actually go to McCool. Actually,
I
John C Dvorak: got I have an
inner it's something in the
middle. That should probably be
played. Okay. All right. Yeah, I
want to pay off. What's the
payoff?
Adam Curry: Oh, what do you want
to do you want to play? You're
in the middle clip, or do you
want me? No, no, no,
John C Dvorak: the enemy video
clip is light. Well, the
question
Adam Curry: that the experts are
stumped. They cannot. They
John C Dvorak: they're always
stumped. They cannot figure out
their experts. By the way. They
know everything about
everything. But for some reason
this situation stumps them they
don't
Adam Curry: understand the the
cancers. They don't understand
the cardiac. Right turbo cancer
turbo, can't they aggressive
turbo? Can they just don't have
that? Is it something in the
food? Is it is it something
environmental? Is it stress?
transfats.
John C Dvorak: Here's the latest
Unknown: we turn to a health
alert now and it's released
today raising concerns about
popular sugar substitute. Dan
Thompson is here and what did we
learn
in Leicester. This is the latest
study to find a link between a
common sugar substitute and
cardiovascular issues. Xylitol
is in all sorts of free gum
candy and baked goods, even
toothpaste.
Adam Curry: So now it's the
Xylitol that's doing it.
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
xylitol has been in the public
domain as a sweetener for
digestible sweetener, basically,
that that sugary for I remember
first hearing about it 30 years
ago, where all the heart attacks
then.
Adam Curry: Well, Newsweek
reports the latest because these
pilots all I mean, people can't
remember the name even No, no.
Energy drinks are linked to
sudden cardiac arrest. There it
is. Oh, that's new on the scene.
The researchers at the Mayo
Clinic have warned that drinking
these beverages, which often
contain high amounts of caffeine
and other stimulating
ingredients, oh, no dangerous
for people with genetic heart
disease. Yes. So they studied
they examined 144 sudden cardiac
arrest survivors, seven patients
within this group had consumed
one or more energy drinks near
to the time of the cardiac
event. So you could drink a
monster and keel over dead. When
are we going to wake up as a
civilization
John C Dvorak: but you're waking
up? You're like, oh, no, no,
Adam Curry: no. Clearly waking
John C Dvorak: up doesn't know.
Too much money, money, money,
money.
Adam Curry: There's 900,000
people who listen to this show.
They're waking up. They're like,
hey, wait a minute, I'm awake.
John C Dvorak: Well, 900,000
that's one in 300 with less than
one and three. Everybody
Adam Curry: tells 300 Friends,
the whole country like the rich
John C Dvorak: wish they would.
Adam Curry: All right, you're up
to bat. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, here this
is a little break in the action.
But before we get to some more
serious stuff. This is
interesting, because this is an
ask Adam.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. Oh, I wasn't I was not
prepared. All right. You haven't
asked Adam now. You mean, you're
doing these and I wasn't quite
you know, we haven't been
John C Dvorak: quite get it. You
haven't already? I didn't
Adam Curry: answer the question.
The answer the question.
John C Dvorak: I got to ask Adam
question. Yes.
Adam Curry: Do I play it now?
Yeah. Okay.
Unknown: One of the country's
most famous doctors is getting
some long awaited recognition.
John C Dvorak: Okay, what are
the most famous now you know who
this is? It
Adam Curry: can only be one of
two people can only be one of
two people.
John C Dvorak: And this is this
over here. This is NPR so it's
very important. Yes. Okay, who
are the one? Who do you think it
might? Okay, I'll give you the
two. Are they?
Adam Curry: Okay? It's either
the truly most important doctor
in Oh, I'm sorry. There's four.
I'll give them to you in order
of appearance one Dr. Peter
McCullough two Dr. Drew three,
Dr. Fauci and for Dr. Bill
Jaiden
John C Dvorak: well, you're damn
close.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. I
have two answers here apparently
which one do we play? You
John C Dvorak: play the number
one and which is the second one
just to follow
Unknown: up getting some long
awaited recognition. I drink
Dr. Pepper and out of crowds Oh
no. Dr.
Pepper just surpassed Pepsi to
become the second most popular
carbonated beverage in America.
Coca Cola is still number one.
Coca Cola Classic has about 19%
of the carbonated soft drink
market in the US Dwayne
Stanford is the editor and
publisher of beverage digest.
So then in second place, you got
Dr Pepper with an 8.3 Share,
which
is now a carbonated bubble or
two ahead of Pepsi.
Dr. Pepper used to market itself
as the plucky underdog of soft
drinks, but it's actually older
than Coke or Pepsi. It was
invented in 1885 started
off as a regional brand in the
southwest and it grew over the
years and its major national
player
which Wayne Stanford credits to
Dr. Peppers targeted marketing.
They've gone
really big on college football.
On any given weekend during the
championship bowl series, you'll
see Dr. Pepper
girls football playoff trophy.
Dr. Pepper, the Greek gods
trophies classic.
This afternoon he also has a
strong presence on Tik Tok where
Dr. Pepper and pickles has
become a thing. Here's tic tock
her and a gray stems.
The pickles are in there I
invested pickle juice in there
for good measure. And here goes
the doctor Kripa
Adam Curry: not bad. All right.
I'm very disappointed in myself
for a number of reasons. One I
forgot to mention Dr. Johnny
fever as one of the most
important doctors in America to
every single no agenda show but
I consume a seven and a half
fluid ounce can of Dr Pepper. If
that's why I knew it was
established in 1885 Because it
says it right on the cam and it
has 23 of authentic blends of
flavors. Yes. Do you know Dr. Oz
is
John C Dvorak: a little more
What do you know
Adam Curry: the ingredients of a
Dr Pepper? No I do not
carbonated water high fructose
corn syrup. Oh it's got high
fructose corn residue and good
caramel caramel color.
Phosphoric acid natural and
artificial flavors sodium
benzoate caffeine and is
produced under the authority of
Dr. Pepper seven up Inc Hall of
Fame label All right there you
go Frisco Louis
John C Dvorak: aside it's just a
little more foggy first of all
this is a native ad Do you think
and I've been finding native ads
on NPR more often than not
interesting and they go out of
their way to promote one product
even though they mentioned the
competition they do a really
good job it makes it sound like
oh what an interesting story
they came
Adam Curry: through and Coca
Cola and they're just way
John C Dvorak: out to the store
without saying something but
they did this is like support
like news but it's not news it's
a native as somebody bought and
paid for this do the timing on
it but I'm sure that length is
right on the money in some way.
And the other thing is as
interesting and they actually
sell this in a store in Marin
County but the when Dr. Pepper
was sold to seventh up the
original owners the family that
owns it we're allowed to
continue making the original Dr.
Pepper as Dr. Pibb it's still
called Dr. Pepper is has some
some differences on the label
and it's it tastes better and
this may was sugar and not
fructose corn syrup see of
course. And it's more expensive
by a lot. It's a little bitty
bottle and but it's good and if
you can and it's I think it is
still be made in Texas in Waco.
Waco. Yeah, Waco is the OG so
you can look it up. You can
probably drink that so that crap
you're drinking. Well,
Adam Curry: you're right because
it could give me a cardiac
arrest.
John C Dvorak: Any minute, so I
can go so if you want to finish
off the native add more details.
Here we go. Can't wait.
Unknown: It's weird, but it's
not bad.
That's a standard for you. We're
not bad. Dwayne Stanford says
Dr. Pepper has gained ground
also because of the choices by
the rival it just past Petzi
has invested more in their zero
sugar offerings and not as much
in Pepsi Cola. They believe
That's the future when it comes
to carbonated soft drinks.
So Pepsi Cola is down Dr. Pepper
is Stanford anticipates Dr.
Pepper will stay in second
place. So cheers
to Dr. Pepper. Okay, the
pickles. I know pickles. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Wow. To be a pepper
to steal still in my head from
when I was six years old
dynamite that's a good one
John's machine Those are good
for a jeep, Jeep. Wait until you
hear the tip of the day jingle.
But, you know, I know that the
tip of the day is is is a
runaway success because I'm
John C Dvorak: Brian always
unlike Yeah, I was running away
from
Adam Curry: unlike the good
news. I must have 20 Tip of the
Day jingle. So people are liking
it. They liked the idea and
they're gonna have to wait until
they get their daily dose of
tip. Just the tip. Just the tip.
Well, I know. I know. You say no
one's going to know is your
season have revealed as crap
merited it. But
Unknown: yeah, but yeah, crap.
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: But the Supreme
Court justices. That's really
coming to a head right now. By
why? Well, because of the
disclosure. You heard about the
disclosures? No. Oh, the
disclosures
Unknown: tonight Supreme Court
Justice Clarence Thomas, for the
first time is officially
disclosing a controversial 2019
trip to Bali with billionaire
Harlan Crowe. At the time Thomas
said the trips were a form of
personal hospitality that
justices did not have to report.
Now his disclosure report said
the two trips had been
inadvertently omitted from his
2019 report. As for his
colleagues, Justice Catan g
brown Jackson reported receiving
a $900,000 book advance plus for
concert tickets were $3,700 from
pop superstar Beyonce. And just
as Sonia Sotomayor disclosed
$86,000 In Book royalties, the
Supreme Court adopted a new code
of conduct last year, although
critics say there's no way to
enforce it.
Adam Curry: So this is really
interesting, because of course,
going after Clarence Thomas for
these trips that he took on on
someone's private jet.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, Catan G
Jackson Browne gets a $900,000
advance on her book, and we all
know it will read and maybe you
can explain how book sales work
and how you get on the New York
Times bestseller list?
John C Dvorak: Well, I can. No,
I can't really explain how you
get the New York Times
bestseller list, even though
it's it tends to be just
reported sales for a short very,
very short time from from
certain booksellers. And then
it's extrapolated and made into
the book, the best sellers. This
is not a genuine reflection of
any sales whatsoever, because
there's plenty of independent
booksellers that sell a lot of
books. And that never gets
reported in New York Times in
the first place. But that's what
I'm that. So that's something of
a promotion of public relations.
What I'm what I'm then what
Adam Curry: I'm nudging towards
is you have some friendly group,
buy up a whole slew of those
books and hand them out at
conferences.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's very
common. In fact, I had this I
busted. I was writing for the
DEC professional and I did tell
them once, here we go. Is this
for this story? Yeah. So I'm at
the Media Lab, with their
mindset
Adam Curry: corporate MIT Media
Lab. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I got an
invite to go. Will Hearst asked
me if I wanted to go to the as
as a group, part of the Hearst
Corporation and just hang out
with with the with the
corporation at the top guys and
him and
Adam Curry: I don't know Media
Lab. I don't think I don't know
the story. I don't think I know
the story. You
John C Dvorak: should. Anyway,
so I would go to the Media Lab.
And it. Unlike reporters,
normally when you go to the
Media Lab, they always make you
sign a bunch of non disclosures.
But because they were trying to
sell the Hearst Corporation on
some project, there was no non
disclosures involved because of
just assume you're not going to
be talking about. Right, right.
And so they it's a frank Beneke
was there and Randy Hurst and
all these, it was just a bunch
of which I got the very funny
conversations I got to have, and
will and I and so we go in there
and take the whole tour. And I
get to hear the pitch from negra
Ponte, about how they've pre
sold the book on the Media Lab,
which will be written I believe,
by Stuart Brand. And he bragged
about how they're going to have
the marketing of this book, and
about how they're going to
priests. This sold the book on a
pre sale basis where you go in
there and say, Look, publisher,
we're going to sell 50,000
copies of this book. right off
the off the top, we're gonna buy
him back from you after they get
printed. It was all part of the
scheme to get you get become a
best seller and the holes and
you give the books away just
what you said. Nice. And so
we're going we're going through
the. And they were showing us
all the crazy inventions they're
having. And every time we asked
about it, they're always every
invention seems to have been
invented in Japan or China. But
they're showing all this stuff.
But at the very end they would
happen was the final meeting
where they're going on about how
they should do this and that
with technology and diameter
folks aren't or the Hearst
Corporation folks aren't buying
most of it. And then Martin
does. So there's a kicker they
bring in Marvin Minsky
Adam Curry: was Epstein with
him.
John C Dvorak: I don't know he
was. Marvin Minsky comes in, and
he sits down and immediately
recognizes me. And he gets very
upset. And he's in he asked him,
What is this guy doing here?
Adam Curry: What is he doing
here? is
John C Dvorak: pretty much what
he said. Because I wasn't non
disclosed. I didn't have to do.
You're
Adam Curry: a hater. You're a
troublemaker, you're
Unknown: either all
John C Dvorak: and they kicked,
they kicked me out. First and I
both love Edwin and I both left
because we was over anyway, so I
already got what I needed. So
later in this story. I wrote
this up in a deck professional
column, calling out the media
laugh now.
Adam Curry: Bars deck Digital
Equipment Corporation
John C Dvorak: right ahead of
magazine. I was inside I had the
back cover. So I wrote this
thing up and it was very
critical, the whole operation.
That's
Adam Curry: why they want it you
know, no wonder it
John C Dvorak: took like about
three months before all of a
sudden. But Negroponte was one
of the primary publishers kind
of a publish on or what he
really did there but of Wired
magazine. So they immediately
did a hit piece on me.
Adam Curry: How can you do it?
What is there to hit on you?
That's the point.
John C Dvorak: So they sent one
of their top hit piece writers
Paulina bursts bore Sook. He's
Adam Curry: got an old Lexus.
He's no good. I mean, what can
you do? He likes noise they have
John C Dvorak: so they sent her
after me and it was like and
first thing I did is I did a
little background she was a
vegetarian vegan. So I took her
out to dinner at greens in San
Francisco and got to know her.
She could not come up with
anything the hit piece became a
kind of a bio of me and wired
look it up it's around and it's
so weak and it's like they
couldn't do it because I'm not a
hittable. I don't really I'm not
an interesting guy. No one has
been around the block
Adam Curry: boring just for
title a potential show title
will and I like that. That
John C Dvorak: Oh, anyways, why?
Just because I know I know a few
people that's for sure. But so
that so that whole thing was a
fiasco. And it was like and
that's the way it's done is
phony. I got a boots on the
ground make a long story long.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, hold on. We
got boots on the ground from our
producer in South Dakota. This
is exactly how Kristi Noem gets
her books on the New York Times
bestseller list. Her campaign
gives money to right wing groups
to buy them up and give them
away to donors. Yeah, that's
what you do.
John C Dvorak: That's what you
do is a good way to go. And it
doesn't make any money.
Adam Curry: And it helps me put
them there that you know, you
shot your dog that helps. I
mean, it's a little better than
I got kicked out of MIT, to be
honest.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't
shoot a dog.
Adam Curry: Bad events back to
the Supreme Court and their book
deals and their and their gifts
Unknown: and justices are
allowed to have some outside
income, but most of their
outside income is capped around
$30,000. Except you do not have
to have a limit on book
royalties and fees. So these
justices who signed these
multimillion dollar contracts
are not subject to any cap and
they can make as much as they
can from these book deals,
Adam Curry: which is clearly
it's that's just as evil
according to the information
we've just gleaned from you,
because you will
John C Dvorak: die that but
these book deals and you see it
all the time with somebody get
you they quit office and the
next thing you know they get a
million dollar book deal.
They're not selling a million
dollars with the books based on
royalties. These deals are
corrupt. The idea is don't
worry. Once you get out of
office, we'll make it up to you
and somebody I don't know how
this works behind the scenes,
but somebody's giving somebody a
lot of money to it's money
laundering, is what it is. The
publisher gets a bunch of money
and gives it to the Hillary
Clinton let's say or somebody
saying you actually sell a few
books, but most of these people
can't. And next thing you know,
it's like Religion, you were in
office it is to favorites like
people get jobs after the fact
Adam Curry: you had made a
Supreme Court ruling. We're
gonna make sure we give you you
get a nice fat advance on your
book and we'll buy it all back.
It's just as corrupt if not much
more, but no, Clarence Thomas.
Got to go after him. Now MSNBC,
your boy, I shouldn't say that.
Racist of me, Jonathan Capehart
took a little different. I don't
know why I said that. Jonathan
Capehart. They came out with a
little different take and went
straight to Trump where it all
really belongs. So that's part
of what this is about. Here's
the intro into his guest.
Unknown: Supreme Court Justice
Clarence Thomas has finally
acknowledged the luxury getaways
he accepted as gifts from a
Republican billionaire. Justice
Thomas updated his financial
disclosure forms yesterday to
include two trips he took in
2019 with mega donor harlyn CRO
mega donor le didn't provide $1
value for the vacations with CRO
pro publica estimated they were
worth more than 500,000 bucks.
Justice Thomas's friendship with
CRO has fueled serious concerns,
by
Adam Curry: the way that some
vacation 500,000 I mean, that
must
John C Dvorak: I'm not buying
just a couple of things. I don't
buy that number. But the other
thing is, so what is unless you
can do the following and they're
not doing it. Yeah. can watch
him connect him. What is the
connection between Pro and and
Justice Thomas that would be
debt. That's corrupt. I mean, it
was Was there one specific thing
that Tom has ruled on his theory
is only one of a few I
Adam Curry: find out? Maybe
Maybe we can find out.
Unknown: Justice Thomas's
friendship with crow has fueled
serious concerns about
partisanship concerns on the
High Court, especially with the
consequential
John C Dvorak: clearly weighed
concerns about partisanship.
Adam Curry: Yes, you can't be
you can't be partisan.
John C Dvorak: So I'm concerned
about your partisan ship. That's
Adam Curry: correct.
John C Dvorak: What does that
even mean?
Adam Curry: Well, it means that
you're you're in it in the in
the tank for Trump Hello.
Unknown: The justices still have
to release more than two dozen
decisions of the next three
weeks touching on several major
issues from emergency abortion
access to Donald Trump's claim
of presidential immunity. And
then there's reason to fear the
worst from the court that
overturn Roe v. Wade. Recently,
Justice Sonia Sotomayor shared
this warning about the rulings
ahead.
There are days that I've come to
my office after an announcement
of a case and closed my door and
cried. There have been those
things and they're likely to be
more and there are moments than
Yes, even I feel desperation or
John C Dvorak: despair. Okay.
This I want to give you a kudos
for this because I knew about
this, per saying that I've never
heard a clip of it. I wish
Adam Curry: I could take it that
goes completely to the clip
custodian today. And he's, he's
already busy.
Unknown: Joining me now Ian mill
Heiser senior correspondent for
Vox where he focuses on the
Supreme Court and the
Constitution. He's also the
author of the agenda. The
Republican Supreme Court is
reshaping America II Thank you
very much for coming to the
Saturday show. I like yeah, I
want to get a little time that
we have. All right.
Adam Curry: So a lot of cases in
the little amount of time, let's
guess what could it be about
first,
Unknown: there is Trump versus
United States. This isn't
running presidential immunity.
How do we think that's gonna go?
I mean, I think Trump's already
won this case, like, what the
court is probably going to do is
they're gonna say President
sometimes have immunity and send
the case back back down to lower
court to figure out if Trump
does in this case, but none of
that matters. Like the the issue
is, are we going to have a trial
before the election, and they've
already run out the clock so
much that I think that the
answer is going to be now. All
right.
Adam Curry: So there's two right
one, let's go to Fisher Fisher
Unknown: versus the United
States. This is whether January
6 participants, including Trump
can be charged with obstruction
of an official proceeding. How
do we think are they gonna? Are
they gonna throw out these
charges? I was very surprised at
how the oral argument while
there have been like 16 judges
who have heard this claim, and
only two of them have said that
the statute should be read
narrowly. So these January six
defendants essentially get off.
Now we're talking about there's
about 1200 January six
defendants, including Donald
Trump, and only about 300 of
them have been charged under the
statute at issue here. So it's
not like it's going to be
blanket immunity for January 6
defendants but we're still
talking about a good chunk of
people who participate in the
insurrection, lock
Adam Curry: up the praying
grannies. So yes, erection
doesn't seem like much happening
there. Let's get to the case
that we're also concerned about
Unknown: the next one. In a
couple of cases have to do with
abortion, the myth of prestone
case? Yeah. How do you think the
justices are going to rule on
that? So that is, you know, of
the two abortion cases. That's
the one I'm most optimistic
about. I think that they'll
leave it alone, they'll leave
access to myth. And that's
correct. I mean, almost half of
more than half of abortions in
the United States are performed
with Miffy per stone. And I
think they realized that if they
accept the lower courts
reasoning to ban it, so many
other drugs will be banned. But
these guys don't like abortion,
but they don't want to ban
antibiotics. All right. And so
that's the good news on abortion
there. Thank you. Thank you for
the hope. Neither of us have a
vagina. But hopefully, and this
is what moil versus the United
States, like women. Hi, this is
whether federal law regulating
hospitals, Trump's local
abortion bans when it comes to
performing emergency abortions,
I think the court is going to do
what I mean, I'm worried about
this case. So there's a federal
law that doesn't refer
specifically to abortions, but
it says if you go to an
emergency room, and you have a
medical emergency, they have to
stabilize your health condition.
And so if the appropriate
treatment is an abortion, the
law right now says that you have
a right to an abortion. I think
based on the oral argument,
they're likely to write that out
of the statute, or at least put
some kind of limits on it so
that people who need life saving
or health saving abortions won't
be able to get them anymore.
Okay.
Adam Curry: Who cares? All
right, kill babies. Good news,
everybody. But here it is the
one we've all been waiting for
the real deal, it all comes down
to this cording to your no
agenda show. And now,
Unknown: here's a case that I
don't think a lot of people even
know about, and this is
euphemistically known as the
chevron bias. And this is one
whether to overturn the
Adam Curry: the chevron Chevron
case, he said,
John C Dvorak: but he means I
says Chevron, now he means
Chevron, Chevron, Chevron
deference.
Unknown: Yes. The Chevron guys,
and this is one whether they
said Right, right. I don't know.
They say Chevron, right, the
chevron guys, and this is now
Adam Curry: the other guy says
in the middle says right, this
is to know whether
Unknown: to overturn the
landmark Supreme Court ruling in
1984, Chevron case that gave
federal agencies leeway to
interpret the law. Right. Sounds
right. Right. And that explain
why this, this is so dry. And
yes, the most important case
decision to come down from the
Supreme. This is both the most
hyper technical, like even
lawyers to have trouble
understanding a case, but also
the most
Adam Curry: podcasters seem to
get it.
John C Dvorak: For some reason
lawyers have no trouble
understanding this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But this is meant to
obfuscate and to confuse people.
Don't listen to this. People
don't listen to this part, you
don't need to know about the
chevron rights thing. What isn't
that important? Don't just get
rid of the black guy. So
Unknown: there are just scads of
federal laws that delegate power
to a federal agency, you know,
everything from like how much
emissions come from power plants
to what your cable rates are to
who gets overtime pay is
controlled by federal agencies.
Chevron was a case from the
Reagan era, which said that
courts should generally let
agencies do what they need to do
and defer to them. What the
court is likely to do here is
essentially give itself a veto
power over everything the
agencies do. So it's not just a
transfer of power. And it's a
huge transfer of power from the
Democratic Biden administration
to a Supreme Court as a six to
three Republican majority. And
with that have, to your point
about, you know, regulating
antibiotics that would give them
purview over the FDA. Right,
Brian Shirley. Right, it is
different. The FDA has its own
statute, which is different than
the regulatory regime that
concerns Chevron. But what we've
seen from the Supreme Court
overall, they've been making up
all these things with names like
the major questions doctrine
that they've made up, yeah, that
lets them interfere with
agencies. So like, this court
wants to have the last word on a
lot of things. Okay,
Adam Curry: so they've made it
all about, oh, if Trump comes
in, then you won't be able to
get your abortion drug. That's
literally,
John C Dvorak: I gotta get out
of the way here. It's not so the
courts can do to say, Oh, we
don't like what you're doing.
And you see, we got six
conservatives, we're going to
change. This is to throw it back
to the word belongs the
lawmaking supposed to take place
by the legislative branch, not
the courts, not the executive,
which is the administrative
state. It's supposed to be the
legislative branch. And what
this Chevron deference cases
supposed to do is kick it back
and make it so the legislature
takes a little more
responsibility for all these
crazy rules that these guys
dream up because they hate
global warming, or whatever. And
so this is a very, this is a
very, I would say, dishonest
report that you're listening to.
Interestingly,
Adam Curry: Katie Fang from
MSNBC had little problem
explaining it in 37 seconds.
Chevron
Unknown: deference is a 40 year
old precedent. more federal
judges grant federal agencies
latitude on how to interpret
legislative statutes. Judges are
supposed to follow a two part
process, one, examine the
congressional language. And if
the intent is clear, the matter
is settled. But two, if the
language is ambiguous, and the
ruling court must defer to that
agency on how the law should be
implemented, essentially, ask
the experts and without the
Chevron deference doctrine in
place, everything and I mean,
everything in your life could be
affected.
Adam Curry: And now the kicker,
so everyone's going after
Clarence Thomas, the real
problem guy is Gorsuch. This is
a clip from his confirmation
hearing, where he discusses this
quite clearly, section 706
Unknown: of the Administrative
Procedures Act says basically
two things and I'm paraphrasing.
It says the courts are supposed
to defer to the factual findings
of agencies. So the extent
you're talking about expert
biologists, chemists, whatever
manner of regulatory expertise
we're talking about there. The
courts are to defer to that. And
to take that seriously. And we
do, just as we would save the
factual finding of a jury, or a
district court judge, that comes
to us with a presumption of
correctness, clear error,
standard review, very hard to
meet. Section 706, however, also
goes on to say that when it
comes to questions of law, the
courts are to interpret the law.
Despite that command from this
body. The courts have created a
doctrine that says that if
there's any ambiguity in the
law, the agency gets to make the
decision about what the law
means. And I have questions
about that. That doctrine, I've
raised questions about whether
that's compatible with the plain
language of section 706.
Adam Curry: I'd say crosshairs
on Gorsuch next, they got to do
he
John C Dvorak: had already a
target. Now, the thing that
people need to be reminded of is
before I think it was 84, when
the Chevron deference became a
became the root the law of the
land, kind of you want to call
it that, or the law of the land
and lawless. What had what was
going on before 1984. This
administrative the
administrative state was still
there, but it wasn't running
roughshod over the US public,
which is doing now by Oh, you
have to have all electric cars,
or else that's only recent. I
mean, before 1984 there was I
was working in a administrative
agency for free for years. And
it was before 1984. And they had
all their kangaroo court they
did the whole thing is pretty
much the same. Except it wasn't
riding roughshod over the public
like it's been doing since night
since the Chevron deference came
into being and it took them a
while to figure it out. But
these bureaucrats it took them a
while. But they said once they
figured out, hey, you know, we
can do what we want, which is
Dream stuff up who do this and
that it will base it on
whatever, it doesn't make any
difference because we have we
run the shop. And so this is
what's happened in this has to
be reversed.
Adam Curry: And it appears that
people in the know actually
understand this is what it's
about. It's not even about
Trump,
John C Dvorak: but hardly about
Trump now. But that's the joke
of it. You bring Trump and then
Trump doesn't even I doubt Trump
even has a clue about any of
this. To be honest about it. I
don't know he might do it.
Anyone who put who put that day,
John Bolton in his cabinet or in
his fear of influence? No shit.
Well,
Adam Curry: I watched you know,
I watched last night, the the
two hour interview of Tucker
with Thomas Massie. Have you
seen this by any chance?
John C Dvorak: No, I have not
and probably never will. It is
required
Adam Curry: watching this guy
is. He's funny. He's very smart.
I didn't know that he had he has
30 patents on virtual reality,
3d objects that I think he sold
to a lot of Silicon Valley
companies. You know, this
hillbilly, who created this.
This is a very interesting guy.
And he even talks about how the
bid during COVID He jumped in
his car and drove eight hours to
show up for the vote for the
Cares Act to stop at the to $2
trillion because he's like, No,
this is this is not by unanimous
consent. And of course the rules
are if one shows up, then that's
not unanimous consent. And Trump
was calling him like, you know,
good and he just great
impressions of Trump and Have
McConnell? I mean, he's just out
and out. John, you will love
this interview. You will go
watch it then. And I pulled a
couple clips for you. The first
one answers a very kind of
answers a very important
question we have about Mike
Johnson. Why all of a sudden did
Mike Johnson spin around 180
degrees and fold on all this
military aid and the what's the,
you know, grab brushes money and
ban tick tock. We've been asking
ourselves this question. For
months,
John C Dvorak: we had one answer
to the thesis that he did it to
stay in office.
Adam Curry: Well, here's
Massey's answer. Well, one of
the things
Unknown: he claims which I don't
believe is true, and I have
reason to say this, is that he
says he went in the skiff, like
he's had some 180 degree turns
on some things like for
instance, whether you need a
warrant to spy on Americans
using the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act 702 program.
Well, he used to be on Judiciary
Committee, with me and Jim
Jordan, trying to reform that
trying to get so he understood
what it was he knew completely
what we were talking about. He's
an attorney to write and he
knows the Constitution. He knows
this is required, but he claims
he spent time in a skiff and he
learned a skiff that's secure,
compartmentalized Information
Facility or something is where
we go we have to leave our
phones locked up, you know, no
staff in there. He claims he
spent time in skiff and learn
things that changed his mind.
Here's the problem. Tucker, I
was in the skiff with him. We
had we had DNI not just the the
current DNI but the former DNI,
John Radcliffe Trump's DNI. We
had CIA. We had FBI. We even had
a FISA judge in there. And we
spent three and a half hours it
was a four hour meeting and
after three and a half hour is
basically a psyop where they're
just trying to beat you down and
do the things. And I was like,
This is ridiculous. You get you
haven't given they didn't give
us one example of anytime ever
since FISA was created, that
getting a warrant would have
kept them from solving or
preventing an act of terrorism.
They gave hypotheticals, but
they had no specific
and I think FEIS has been in
place since 1978. Since the 70s.
Right?
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah, I
forgot to mention this was about
FISA. So they sigh opt him.
There's a little gotcha in there
because he says it was a four
hour meeting. And he was in
there with him for three and a
half hours. I'm thinking that
last half hours when they said,
Hey, Mike, look at this picture.
That's what I think. But then
Tucker does ask for what he
thinks the truth is. So what is
the truth? What
Unknown: do you think changed?
I think he's kind of a lost ball
and tall weeds. They think he's
in a position of power. He never
imagined he would get to at this
point in his life. He's not done
anything in private practice or
political arena. This prepared
him for this. He took the job
with a very small staff. He
didn't have people to put in all
positions on the field. And he
had to accept a lot of
suggestions in areas he didn't
know a whole lot about, although
he gets no pass on FISA. Yes, he
gets no pass on Ukraine. Because
he does, as you pointed out, he
doesn't even know how many
casualties have been incurred on
the Ukrainian side. If you need
He's the second person in line
for president after Kamala
Harris. This is This is scary to
me. He's He's basically getting
moved around.
Adam Curry: And he was very
clear that he was all in with
Marjorie. He doesn't say
Marjorie Taylor Greene just
calls her Marge says, I'm all in
with March, we're gonna get rid
of him. We don't want him back
as Speaker of the House. Now,
there was a clip that went viral
from this interview, then when
you hear the viral clip, you'll
understand why, because there's
a lot of people who've been
waiting for proof proof that
Israel runs our Congress.
Unknown: Well, I have
Republicans who come to me on
the floor and say, I wish I
could vote with you today. Yours
is the right vote. But I would
just take too much flack back
home. And I have Republicans who
come to me and say that's wrong.
What AIPAC is doing to you. Let
me talk to my AIPAC person. By
the way, everybody by me has an
APEC person like I mean, an APEC
person. He's like your
babysitter, your APEC
babysitter, who is always
talking to you for a pack,
they're probably a constituent
in your district. But they are
you know, firmly embedded in a
pack and every member has
something like this. Every I
don't know how it works on the
Democrat side. But that's how it
works on the Republican side.
And when they when they come to
DC you go have a lunch with
them. And they've got your cell
number. And you have
conversations with them. So I've
had like, that's absolutely
crazy. I've had four members of
Congress say, I'll talk to my
APEC person. And if you watch,
we call them my bad guy. I'll
talk to my APEC guy and see if I
can get him to, you know, dial
those ads back.
Why have I never heard this
before? It
doesn't benefit anybody. Why
would they want to tell their
constituents that they've
basically got a buddy system
with somebody who's representing
a foreign country? It doesn't
benefit the congressman for
people to know that so they're
not going to tell you that.
Adam Curry: So this of course,
this went viral because now
everyone can say you see the
Jews run it. They run
everything. Israel runs America.
They've got guys, they've got
babysitters. It's, it's it's
proof. It's proof.
Unfortunately, it's taken out of
context, because when you watch
this interview, he explains very
clearly what's going on. But
first, a disclaimer and kind of
an understanding of AIPAC, of
course, the American Israeli
what is it? What is the
political action committee? No,
no, no, no, they have a
political it's No, it's not.
That's what AIPAC is. No, no,
they they didn't have one years
ago. AIPAC. The original AIPAC
is the American but Israeli
public affairs committee.
John C Dvorak: Okay. And get
there's a little issue here
there. I want to bring up
because you saw this interview I
didn't, which is that if there's
an AIPAC contact with your cell
phone number, did John Tucker
bring up the Orsay? Is there a
guy from the petroleum industry
that
Adam Curry: he did, actually, it
was very funny, I didn't clip
it. He said, Hey, do you have a
Germany guy? Do you have an
alien guy? No, no, he does.
Isn't that only only AIPAC. But
he says it's very, I think I
have the clip is very similar.
It's very similar to the NRA who
are all about guns. Oh, you'll
get to it. But first, the real
problem, because AIPAC, as we've
discussed, is funded by the AI
F, which is the American Israel
Education Foundation. And its
donors are Lockheed Martin,
north of Grumman and General
Atomics amongst others. So
here's Massey saying, This is
why he doesn't want to deal with
with any any of these guys,
because this is who he is.
Unknown: I'm not against Israel.
I've never voted to sanction
Israel. I've never said
anything, particularly, you
know, critical of Israel, you
know, other than, for instance,
right now, they're bombing,
they've killed 1% of the
civilian population in Gaza.
That's concerning to me. But so
what do they do now?
You get elected 2012.
Do you hear from them again? I
vote my conscience, which they
won't tolerate. So they ran with
their 501 C four, before they
had a super PAC, they they were
running educational advocacy ads
against me saying that, you
know, I'm bad on Israel. They
didn't say don't vote for him.
They just said he's, he's a bad
guy. And so I said, All right,
well, you're not welcome in my
office anymore. Because for
years, I invited him into my
office. Let's talk this through.
Let me explain to you, I'm a
libertarian leaning Republican,
I'm gonna vote for foreign aid
for anybody. So don't be
offended when I don't vote for
your foreign aid. I don't vote
for wars anywhere. So don't be
offended if I tell you that I'm
for free speech, even if it's
abhorrent. And yeah, we used to
talk but now they're banned from
my office. The situation from
bad to worse, this election
cycle, they spent $400,000
against me. So
Adam Curry: the point he's
making is that they basically
call him an anti Semite and a
Jew hater for not wanting to
talk to them. But here's the
real reason why. Now, to
Unknown: your point, they should
be registered with Faraj, this
is what Faraj is, is where
there's gray area, where it's an
American representing a foreign
country. Let's let's look and
see if you're getting any money
from that foreign country. Are
you a dual citizen with that
foreign country? Are you being
directed by for instance, is
Netanyahu speaking to your group
advising you on your next move?
Those are you getting money from
the military industrial complex?
Like because to understand
AIPAC? I think it's easiest to
model them as a military
industrial lobby. Like their
biggest thing is they want more
equipment, more military
equipment from the United States
going to Israel. In fact, when
they used to be allowed in my
office, the thing that the
argument that would make is, oh,
we're just stimulating the US
military industrial complex,
because every single penny of
the 3.8 billion that they
nominally Get it now they're
getting way more than that. But
Israel normally gets goes to US
military contractors.
Adam Curry: And this is what we
heard over and over again. So
now you can point out the people
who got a call from their AIPAC
guy. Hey, man, make sure
everyone needs to know this is
about our defense industrial
base. Of course, Israel. 3.8
billion is nothing. But this is
where AIPAC shines.
Unknown: Now, that didn't make
me warm and fuzzy. Okay. But
that is their argument. And if
you notice what they advocate
for, I think sometimes they
advocate for things that even
Israelis wouldn't advocate for.
I believe that, like they would,
I think be okay with a war with
Iran, like all out, you know,
apocalyptic war with Iran,
whereas there are people in
Israel say, Whoa, hold on a
second. We we'd rather not have
a war with Iran. But AIPAC does
things that lead us in that
direction. And so they're kind
of like, what the NRA is to gun
owners, AIPAC is to Israel, or
what the Farm Bureau is to
farmers, AIPAC is to Israel in
other presents a faction right.
They represent a faction, but
usually a corporate faction,
that and they're using the
imprimatur of grassroots that
they've diluted or confused into
bullying congressman,
Adam Curry: so the way I see it
is actually the exact opposite
the real money, which is in case
anyone missed it, $900 billion a
year or this most recent year,
more than that. Now, a trillion
cool trillion total, since we
added some extra money. It's the
opposite. The defense industrial
base is abusing the Jews and the
playing the Jew card, to force
people into signing off on
weaponry, especially if it's
against Iran. Hello, Lindsey
Graham. And it's worse because
then you take the Christians who
are like, Oh, Jews, the chosen
people, let's get them in on the
deal, too.
Unknown: They didn't have a
political action committee at
the time, they couldn't spend
hundreds of 1000s or millions of
dollars against me at that time.
It was just sort of like a
whisper campaign to try to Hey,
don't vote for him, blah, blah
blahs. Why? Because at that
point, they sensed I wouldn't do
what they want. And what did
they whisper against you? What
were they saying about you?
Well, they would do it through
for instance, churches,
evangelical churches, they've
got an organization called
Christians United for Israel,
really sort of CO opted
evangelicals. People think it's
a grassroots movement in
Kentucky. It's actually a top
down movement from AIPAC so that
people who aren't even Jewish
will feel like they've got to
support Israel, you know, no
matter what. And even if it's a
secular state that funds
abortions, they just sort of
forget that part. And we've got
to fund Israel. So they have
networks. So it's more than just
about the money.
Adam Curry: And then just one
bonus clip, which is, which just
completes the whole circle about
Afghanistan and Russia and
Ukraine and Israel.
Unknown: Why are we in a war
with Russia? I've never figured
that out. Why Russia? It almost
seems like they picked it off.
Like, why would we be at war
with Russia?
No. What's interesting is we
were in Afghanistan. And I was
tracking this, I talked to the
Special Inspector General, John
Sopko, about twice a year about
the money that was being wasted
in Afghanistan, it was about $50
billion a year. And it was glad
to see us get out of
Afghanistan, but kind of like
feathering the clutch and
shifting gears, we just went
from second gear to third gear,
because as soon as we quit
spending $50 billion a year in
Afghanistan, we started spending
more than $50 billion a year in
Ukraine. There's a military
industrial complex, they call it
the defense industrial base. Now
in the United States, they say
we have to, they're hungry, and
we got to keep them fed. And
since we don't have any of our
own wars, and we don't have a
reason to deplete our stocks,
and our bombs, and weapons that
we have, we engage in these
other things to keep them
healthy and thriving. In fact,
the Biden administration even
made that argument in a letter
to Congress for why we should do
this supplemental foreign aid to
Israel to Ukraine to Taiwan,
they made the argument that the
defense industrial base needs to
be strong. And so we need to
spend this money and they gave a
list of all the states in the
United States that would benefit
from this spending. And that's
why they said we should do it.
Adam Curry: And that's what
Trump does. That's exactly what
Trump was doing. That's the only
manufacturing we have the and
Trump if I think Trump will come
in the he's going to figure out
a way to get more money into
defense, but eventually, I mean,
do we just start more wars in
Africa or I mean, you have to
deplete the stuff to create
more.
John C Dvorak: But that Africa
is a good target. Yeah, we
didn't notice this.
Adam Curry: Exactly. But then
unfortunately, we'll have to
play African news which will
kill the show.
John C Dvorak: No, we're not
gonna play African news. That's
the idea. They're not going to
play Africa. The news so we can
waste money down there and they
want to kill the show. I thought
did Trump coming in and maybe
auditing the Defense Department
and see what, who's ripping us
off? We're spending too much
money for what we're getting for
the bang for the buck. I don't
care about throwing, wasting
bombs and all the rest of it
seems to me that there's some,
there's some hidden money here.
It's like black energy.
Adam Curry: He's never even
hinted at doing that. I mean,
the only thing I could think of
is Trump would come in and say,
All right, you guys are all
wasteful. And we have enough
weaponry now. Boeing Why don't
you stop doing that dumb stuff
with your, your strike fighter,
your joint fighter? Yeah. Why
don't you build a real plane?
One that I can fly in. And then
you know, all these other
companies once you start
building good cars that people
want, I mean, that could be
something
John C Dvorak: that'll be the
day instead of
Adam Curry: instead of tanks
build this car. I
John C Dvorak: mean, the trans
trend because it medical
associated medical operations go
well, yeah, hell with that
money.
Adam Curry: Well, anyway, I like
maths
John C Dvorak: sounds a good
yeah, we sounds a good guy.
Adam Curry: Yeah. He's, he built
his own house, himself with wood
he collected on his land.
John C Dvorak: I know that type
Adam Curry: the guy. The guy's
funny, he said, and he got a
Tesla battery to power it. And
he says it was crazy. I bought
this Tesla battery and I had to
get special permission to
transport it because it's
considered a hazardous material.
John C Dvorak: It is totally yet
that strapped lithium bomb
strapped onto
Adam Curry: your car. The guy's
funny. He's funny. Okay,
John C Dvorak: we will
definitely listen to him. Yes.
Yes. He's under a lot. He is
under attack. Oh, he's part of
the Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Yeah, this Cabal, very small
group is only maybe five or six
people. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, he definitely
is, I think a no agenda type
guy. When you hear what he's how
he talks like, Yeah, makes a lot
of sense.
John C Dvorak: Well, now I can
do a whole series of clips from
Peter McCullough. Yes. Which is
a lot of subs because he was on
a show called The courageous
discourse.
Adam Curry: Is this a podcast?
Yeah. Oh, excellent.
John C Dvorak: He's on a
podcast. And I just found this
to be the series of very alt. He
names names, who's doing the bio
weapon development. He's
Excellent.
Adam Curry: This is why there's
two of us, John, I'm watching
Massey, you're watching makalah.
We come together on Sunday, Bada
bing, bada boom, what a show we
got.
John C Dvorak: He names names,
he points the finger. He's very
funny. He likes to laugh about
stuff. And he is so
knowledgeable. It's like
listening to him. You know, you
know, that guy's on top. And
it's just amazing to me that
he's not like, you know, the
surgeon general or so he's he's
just pushed a little bit pushed.
You Can't a guy like this is so
powerful and is the intellectual
pursuits that you can't kick him
to the curb. And he'll just keep
cropping up here and there. And
this is one of the best examples
I think. And it's about stuff
that you haven't heard and it
shouldn't. It should enrage the
public this some of this is
going on but let's go with
Macola on courageous A's on the
podcast courageous discourse is
number one.
Unknown: I want to have you on
particularly to talk about this
disease X you know,
your disease access, not Twitter
disease. X is a theoretical
disease that that people in this
biopharmaceutical complex have
been writing about for years,
including Peter desiccate, the
equal Health Alliance has been
writing I said Can't wait for
disease X. It's going to infect
mankind, it's going to have a
high kill rate. So we're seeing
20 times that of COVID. The
global vaccine Alliance disease
x is going to be bird flu. And I
think they were right.
Adam Curry: You're in my
backyard Dvorak.
John C Dvorak: Yep. I tell you,
you get you get a kick out of
these clip. I
Adam Curry: have my you have my
attention for sure. Because go
John C Dvorak: to two, they've
been
Unknown: talking about bird flu
for years. I remember back
during the Obama administration,
they would have these bird flu,
sere campaigns in the media and
nothing ever really came of it.
What is going on with bird flu,
has a lab finally hit the
jackpot in terms of making it
very contagious for humans? Is
that what we're talking about
here?
There has been gain of function
research on bird flu for decades
now researchers have been
working on this to doctors Dr.
Merrick how that university was
constant Dr. Ron foo che at
Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
They've been trying to make this
virus jump from human inhuman
for a decade or more, it's
nothing's been in the open more
than this bird flu infects
chickens largely, sometimes cat
all the Chinese started
vaccinating for this back in the
90s. It's made it way worse. So
now the birds spread it around
even more. The main method of
handling it is kill all the
birds when one bird gets a bird
flu kill the whole poultry
flock, I think that's been a
disaster, they're going to have
to let the birds get some
natural immunity. We're talking
about highly pathogenic h five
and one avian influenza, also
known as bird flu, about 800 to
900 human cases when it spreads
from the animal to the worker.
And historically, there's had a
52.7% mortality rate, largely
because of people lots of
handling the birds Southeast
Asia, no medical care presenting
late. The most recent outbreak,
we've had three human cases in
the United States, two of them
were pinkeye, one with some
respiratory symptoms all easily
treated. So I don't think bird
flu is going to be much of a
human threat unless it starts
spreading human to human and if
it does, believe me, we're gonna
kneel the gain of function guys
who've been working on this. And
the southeastern poultry
Research Center in Athens,
Georgia, we think that's where
the most recent strain came out
of does.
Adam Curry: Dr. McCall at any
point mentioned that the birds
aren't real
Unknown: word you know what they
were doing? They were doing
experiments in mallard ducks,
migratory waterfowl, what a
mistake. One of those guys gets
out. They fly everywhere. You
know, the media has not been
asking the question, why did it
spread from Texas to to Iowa to
Michigan managers happened
magic? They didn't ask the
question. They just think it
spontaneously arising. No, it's
been spread by the ducks that
are flying all over.
Wow. And do we have any recourse
to stop this or sue this lab for
spreading a migratory bird with
a novel disease? All
these experts are saying we have
to get ahead of nature. That's
what disease X researchers that
we have to get ahead of nature.
We have to make it invade
humankind and then come up with
vaccines. So disease X vaccines,
the Coalition for epidemic
preparedness innovation as the
Global Center founded by Gates
Foundation World Economic Forum
gave an entire over 100 page
white paper on disease X. It
said the whole reason to study
disease X is to have a disease X
vaccine. Sure enough with bird
flu CSLs Aquarius biotech
company has the Odense vaccine,
it was FDA licensed in 2021.
With no human data, ready to go
for bird flu, they developed it
with BARDA, a research unit of
the military 2021. And now the
US has purchased, you know,
enough doses for millions of
administration's why would the
US military be developing a bird
flu vaccine? And why in 2021?
Now, news was out this week that
you know, Pfizer Maderna are
talking to the federal
government about messenger RNA
vaccines. CSL has a self
replicating messenger RNA
vaccine and development Cepi
with the Koreans have a self
replicating messenger RNA
vaccine. So
Adam Curry: coming back to our
boots on the ground. I mean, the
testing industrial complex must
just be salivating to by the
way, you know how you test for
bird flu? I came across this
last night via what the test is.
You swab your eye?
Unknown: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: If your nose wasn't
bad enough, where they jammed it
into your brain now they're
going to put a cotton swab in
your eye to see if you have bird
flu. And we need to remind newer
listeners, Peter McCullough is
highly decorated. But this is a
they can't use undie platform
bubble now they're just not
putting them on mainstream news
anymore. But they can't get rid
of him because he has so many
podcasters say a big
John C Dvorak: threat that's
what it was what the clip we had
recently where they claim that
podcasters were like the big
threat Yes. Again clearly
schemes yes
Adam Curry: clearly clearly we
the podcasters are the problem
problematic podcasters
John C Dvorak: Yes, again,
because one of those guys enjoys
talking that he does, but it's
like he has so much at the tip
he's not using any notes at all
he never looks down and he just
off the top of his head has
every all the stats and the
right to the number the right to
the point something and he just
goes on and on with this. He's
great. This is part four.
Unknown: I gotta tell you that
bird flu is disease x because
people have an aspiration of
mass vaccinating the world again
COVID Wasn't enough now it's
game on disease X bird flu, I
Adam Curry: know how disease X
spreads, it spreads to the
internet.
Unknown: So is this going to be
potentially more lethal than
COVID? Or what? What is your
thoughts on this?
So far? You know, it's early,
but the cases appear mild, it
looks like this strain and what
we're tracking is h five n one
clade two point 3.44. B, we
actually got it down to the
clade n and the mutation that
came out of the Athens Georgia
lab. This one luckily so far
appears to be very benign
pinkeye and something easily
treated with the you know,
iodine nasal sprays and gargles.
Also, Tim Avira, Tamiflu
hydroxychloroquine, it's all
gonna cover it easily. So it
doesn't appear to be very
dangerous to humans. The reason
why it's dangerous to animals is
because they are incinerating
all the animals instead of
letting them get through it.
Yeah, this is a mild version. I
think we ought to have some
observational studies to just
see what is the mortality rate
in birds we can't destroy every
last chicken, because the
mallard ducks are going to
continue to spread it around
Adam Curry: it all. I love that.
The only danger to chickens is
they're gonna get incinerated.
Man, it all fits together with
the culture of lab chicken meat
and everything. It all kind of
fits together though, doesn't
it? It's a nice little puzzle
they built here. And it's always
pretty well they benefit
John C Dvorak: mallard duck
thing he's really on that he
just thinks is horrible that
they would effect a duck. I
mean,
Adam Curry: this even affects
reality TV shows what will Duck
Dynasty do? They'll be out of
business?
John C Dvorak: I think they'd
been out of business. Now.
They're
Adam Curry: pretty popular. My
man. pretty popular.
John C Dvorak: I onward. Next I
think is we're under what four
by five? Five?
Adam Curry: Yeah. What about
Unknown: the I've heard of the
news, they've been saying that.
They're concerned about the
virus being spread by the raw
milk drinkers. The Count of
people that are drinking raw
milk unpasteurized from cows are
the ones that are going to
spread the bird flu. How does
that narrative get started? And
what's coming on? What's going
on with that? Yeah, I
doubt it. Most of it is going to
be through respiratory or
touching the cases of
conjunctivitis, invariably, the
workers handle the animals and
they touch their eyes. There's
been a few tests of products in
the store where they find some
viral particles. And again,
they're doing PCR testing. So
we're talking about grossly
inflated positive tests that are
false positive tests, but even
what they found is not active in
the grocery store. Now they're
kind of zeroing in on who drinks
raw milk. I doubt that that's
going to be a route of spread it
largely it has to be airborne
and come in through the nose and
mouth a
Adam Curry: couple of articles
to backup this disease X hype
CNN with bird flu infecting
dairy cattle FDA is now asking
states to curb sales of raw
milk. From right here in the
backyard bird flu detected in
Austin wastewater who hair on
fire has blue blue hair on fire
and stats sta T that's the
medical shill publication that
we've discussed in the past they
basically take money to write
articles. Allegedly, here's the
title how co2 helps viruses stay
alive longer in the air. So the
guy
John C Dvorak: saw that article
that says hilarious so I was
gonna put a newsletter actually,
we really Larry, we really
Adam Curry: got everything we
need. I mean, we've got the
climate change. We've got the
we've got the vegans we've got
the lab meat, we've got the
vaccine industry we've got the
testing industrial complex, I
mean it really is perfect.
John C Dvorak: We have a guy
another tester out there that
does the wastewater stuff and he
says you his bull crap. Bull
crap says you centrifuge
everything until you say there's
no really you just keep reducing
and reducing reducing and then
you can test that and there's
always going to be you can fight
anything you want. The only in
Adam Curry: there the only
problem in fact, the only person
who doesn't benefit from the
scam is Mimi. I mean too many
eggs.com is just it's going to
be a problem when there's no way
that she could well no she can
write a follow up not enough
eggs, no eggs. No eggs.com
Unknown: six so what is being
done if anything just trying to
stop her hold these people
accountable. It seems like the
only politician you hear about
who still does these ongoing
about this matter and try to
hold people accountable is
Senator Rand Paul. I know
there's a few others too but
from your you're very much
involved. of this fight for
transparency and accountability.
What are you hearing in terms
of? Is there going to be any
accountability for the folks
like Peter de Zack and Fauci
regarding this gain of function
research that they've lied
about? It's
been slow progress, but credit
to Brad wenstrup Marjorie
Taylor, green chip Roy and
others in the house, they
they've been plodding through
this. They got to the point
where Datsik clearly is one of
the CO conspirators and one of
the creators of SARS cov
Tussaud's Anthony Fauci, Ralph
Berek at UNC Chapel Hill and Dr.
shingling. Lee in China, for
people who created COVID that
got us sick. Fauci was
pretending the whole time that
he he was responding to this yet
he knew it was, he was part of
the creation of this, and it was
all covered up. By the way,
that's the interesting that
emails show the cover up. The
recently had David morons in who
is Fauci, he's assistant, and
they were using personal email
accounts, you know, changing
characters and letters to try to
throw off the FOIA requests. I
mean, these guys knew what they
were doing was wrong. Me. They
created a virus, they got the
whole world sick, and then they
tried different vaccines on us.
So
Adam Curry: Oh, makalah. Man,
what is he doing as a guest on
podcast? He needs his own
podcast.
John C Dvorak: With his family,
he's got a foundation, which is
doing a lot of work.
Adam Curry: Needs a better mic
is what he needs.
John C Dvorak: Yes, yeah, he
does. Well, he needs a
Adam Curry: better rig, he
needed to rig in his rig,
something he needs to be give me
a call Dr. McCall, I'll send you
a rig. This is embarrassing.
John C Dvorak: So this anyway,
this interview went on for
almost an hour and a half.
Adam Curry: I mean, the seven
clips is a lot even for you.
John C Dvorak: And you're very I
usually cut it I and so I kind
of moved into one little spot. I
wanted to just get this little
last bit in there. And the rest
of it, people can go to the
discourse, podcast and listen to
the whole thing. If they want
to. I should send you the link
to the for the show notes. The
show notes. Yeah. And but I just
thought this little bit at the
end here was was worthwhile. I
just pulled it out of
Unknown: the blue. And you know,
and all the government agency
websites and National Security
Administration, for instance,
says, Well, we think it came out
of nature, but with the low
probability, then they say, but
it's not a bio weapon. Well, why
do they say that? Why do they
have to front that? It's because
in 1975, we actually have some
legislation saying that we can't
be in the business of creating
biological weapons. And so they
tried to put that out there, but
it clearly it was a biological
threat. We all got sick from it.
There's a paper by Farkas in
military medicine that's
evaluated SARS cov tool along
with three dozen criteria for
biological weapons and they've
concluded you know, SARS, cov,
two meets criteria for this two
papers by Yen also show that so,
I mean, we have to ask the
question, was our government in
the business of creating
biological threats and then
creating countermeasures,
therapeutics and vaccines? What
Adam Curry: Of course they are
that's what you do you create a
biological threat and you have
to have the antidote so that
when you know when your guys get
it you can still be okay and go
in and
John C Dvorak: Danny, but it's
illegal
Adam Curry: gambling going on
there. My goodness, of course,
it's illegal killing civilians
also illegal
John C Dvorak: that so the point
is that he makes it with
throughout this thing is that
these guys conspire to create
the COVID to virus that kill
that anyone out there whose
family member anybody died,
should really be outraged by by
any of this.
Adam Curry: The many more to
come who will die suddenly.
John C Dvorak: And then the many
Brian and the people who just
kind of have been dropping dead
left and right as you brought
out the early part of the show,
this should be outraged by this
and they should be outraged
about this lab in Georgia and
they should be outraged by the
North Carolina operation. They
should be outraged by all of it,
but nobody's outraged by any of
it. We're not even that
outraged. We're just like, Oh,
brother, there we go. Again.
They're
Adam Curry: either outraged
about the appeal to heaven flag
or the trans flag. That's our
outrage. That's our level.
Flags. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep.
Yep.
John C Dvorak: What do we do in
the olden days? Oh,
Adam Curry: here we go.
John C Dvorak: I think the
public would be with torches.
And Hangman's knots looses and
be Dino no burning down that no
July No. Mal, no, we're
Adam Curry: gonna post memes
we'll get I'm gonna post memes
when a troll um, that's what we
do. We're weak. We've had good
times, it creates weak men.
We're about to go into tough
times. We'll see what it creates
you and I'll sit back in our
rocking chairs and laugh for
more years. And with that, I'd
like Thank you for your courage
and say what right just
John C Dvorak: can't find my my
been cleaned up.
Adam Curry: Thank you for your
courage to say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea in
the courageous discourse, ladies
and gentlemen say hello to my
friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. John Cena
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. Adam curry in the
morning all ships to see boots
on the ground feet in the air
subs in the water and all the
names and nights out there in
the morning
Adam Curry: to the trolls and
the troll room stop running.
See, let me see. Now we are a
little late. We're a little
later than, than usual. In fact,
we're about 40 minutes over time
for this break. But how could we
not just stop and wait for Dr.
McCulloh? 2119 on the last
Thursday right now we're at 1989
So I call it a wash. I think
we're pretty good. I think the
trolls are pretty good. I think
the trolls are Hey, the trolls
are hanging in there because it
was good. You know, and and
they're they're already they're
already you know, they're
already teeing up their memes.
The teen up the memes. Yeah.
Hey, man. That's what we do.
Make it all good. I think that
sounds pretty good. Good. There
you go. The trolls can be found
at troll room.io. And every
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how that works is so smart. And
it can't You can't be the
platform for all this stuff. We
built it that way. That's why
the broadcaster's are
problematic you say because you
can't do platform them anymore.
As those two podcasts are making
trouble for authors no good.
We'll be celebrating 17 years in
October 17 years of value for
value. No, I was listening to
home man. NPR did a whole thing
on Alex Jones. So you happen to
catch any of that.
John C Dvorak: That caught a
little bit of it there.
Definitely bloating. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And in fact, when we
when we play one of these clips
here as a bonus, Alex Jones
Unknown: is one step closer to
paying the families who sued him
for defamation and Perez Tobia
Smith has been following the
story topia. Good morning.
Good morning.
What does chapter seven
liquidation mean? Well,
it would basically mean that
there'd be a fire sale
controlled but a swift sale of
everything from Jones's
ownership in his company called
free speech systems to his
personal gun collection. And it
means the ball could get rolling
pretty quickly on at least some
payment for those Sandy Hook
families who won that defamation
suit. But the payment wouldn't
be anywhere close to what these
families are owed. Jones's
assets are estimated now at
about $10 million, which might
mean just around a couple
$100,000 for each of the
plaintiffs, at least initially,
and I say initially because a
chapter seven trustee would have
authority to hunt down any
assets that Jones may have
hidden and this hunting license
as some call it would be a
forever thing because Jones's
case unlike most bankruptcy
cases, where debts are washed
away and you could get a fresh
start. The judge ruled in
Jones's case that can happen
because his wrongdoing was
intentional and malicious. So
bottom line, the families will
have a claim on Jones's future
earnings for the rest of his
life.
Adam Curry: This is why I'm so
happy. We never went the route
of a lot of these other guys and
made 10s of millions of dollars
with no target. were
unimportant.
John C Dvorak: To us, what would
I do with all that money?
Adam Curry: We're completely
unimportant. Like, we're gonna
take all of your assets you'd be
like, what's this? What is this
thing? What is this pile? DeVore
Abkhaz? Oh, no, we don't want
any of that. No, we can't have
that collection. What's curry
God who has a dog? All right,
good. Dog we have we have just
gone the value for the value for
value route. As long as you can
still pay our rent. We're still
doing the show. That's always
been the mission. That's always
been how we run it and it has
been working so then we're
happy. We're gainfully employed,
gainfully employed, I tell you,
so one of the ways that you can
help us is through donating
money, treasure, we need it.
Obviously everybody needs to
make money to pay your bills. We
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have boots on the ground. You
heard a couple of reports during
the show. We have and believe
me, we have doctors, dentists,
nurses. We have the law
enforcement officers military
pilots, we you cannot think of a
single thing we have people who
test wastewater Hello, this is
the best podcast in the
universe. That's what's so cool.
We
John C Dvorak: do have I was a
cadre of, of producers who have
high expertise in extremely
specialized areas of society.
Yes. And they're all you know,
that's not you know, that's not
the same as a legislative guy or
anybody, which is who is a
generalist. These are people
that are specialists, and very
seldomly get the recognition.
They deserve to be honest about
it.
Adam Curry: That's right. And
even then they usually want to
be anonymous. They just want to
help out the show. Well, there's
other reasons. They also like
their life. Yeah, of course. But
yeah, so that's how we know this
wastewater testing is just more
bull crap. It's a bonanza, no
doubt, you know, the testing
industrial complex. In general,
we heard a big bonanza. So this
is this is how you can
contribute. We also have artists
and these artists, they work and
it's amazing, because, you know,
we're talking about experts.
Many of these artists, in fact,
the majority are Dutch masters.
And they create artwork for us
on the fly while listening while
at work while slaving away at
their jobs, they still find time
to create some artwork in
between. And it's great because
we use those for the show. And
it always looks good, it's
fresh, it looks great in the
podcast apps looks good when you
put it out there and promote the
show, which is another way you
can provide value back to us.
And lo and behold the episode
art for 1666, which was titled
weird spelled wy rd came from
none other than the very
controversial Francisco scatter
manga. And he created a very
nice D Day piece. Which wasn't
wasn't like we weren't overly
enthusiastic, like jumping up
and down. But it was D Day. We
did the was Yeah, we did the
show on D day itself. And then
we got a lot of positive
comments. People say that's
great with that. Thank you for
honoring my grandfather or
whatever else, by the way. So
some someone from the Pentagon
got in touch with me. Again, our
producers right, and said, Hey,
give me your your, your
grandfather's date of birth. So
I happen to have this and he dug
up my grandfather's draft card.
That's sweet. Why it gets
better. He says every person who
landed at Normandy ought
automatically qualifies for a
French, like Legion, Legion
donor or slaughter. Yeah, the
Legion of Honor. And so as any
said, Hey, we're looking at your
family history. It looks like
because he came from Germany. It
looks like it came from Prussia,
you may actually have royal
blood in you. Which, which means
our lizard.
John C Dvorak: Part lizard Adam,
yeah, I believe this to be true.
Adam Curry: I'm very excited
about learning. This is better
than 23. And me, this is the
kind of producers we have other
pieces. Thank you
John C Dvorak: for oily
creations apart. That explains a
lot I'm part reptile,
Adam Curry: baby. There you go.
Let me see other pieces that we
looked at. There was a lot of
let's
John C Dvorak: start off by
saying a couple of things.
Please do first of all Scarah
manga has turned out to be
something of an a whole by being
goaded into condemning the show
on the no agenda, no authority
website, which I find to be I
found to be very offensive. You
didn't even want to use this
piece because you were so upset
about it. And I and I'm very
irked by the whole thing, and I
might as well make the statement
now I am not going to no
authority for anything. I've had
it with that website. I don't I
think Aaron has done a very piss
poor job of moderating. He
basically says I'm not
moderating. So we have a slew of
a holes on there that are doing
nothing for positive for the
show. They just say negative
things and they just condemn
you. They condemn me. They
condemn everybody in between and
they get people like Scaramanga
all jacked up in a situation
where they shouldn't be mad and
mad. And so if that site is dead
to me, I'm not going to if
anybody wants to contact me
using that site, you're not
going to get to go go back to
Twitter. Because I have refused
now to be it's just like
everything else is some of these
guys start up and you have some
body like Aaron are running it.
They don't do their job
properly. They're above it all
they won't take advice from
anyone. And it's like no
authority early in the in the
I'm sorry, no agenda social now
nor authority. And before that,
that no agenda forms. We've had
this happen over and over and
over again, where people take it
upon themselves to be jerks. And
so don't look for me they are
I'm not happy there.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is a
little bit of projection because
I mean, we are the ones taking
the Joomla So, you know, that is
kind of our own fault.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Where's
that jus money by the way? Where
is it? The more CIA money but we
don't get enough enough of that.
Adam Curry: I have to say check
the PIO box.
John C Dvorak: Once in a while
we get some agency money, but
it's rare. Very rare.
Adam Curry: Very rare. Anyway,
moving right along we had let's
see, we had another Normandy D
Day piece by Thomson nail. Man,
you kind of liked the D Day
diapers from St. Paul couture.
They did which were they it was
it was small. I mean, there was
just technically some things
that I think were probably
didn't like it. I didn't know.
John C Dvorak: Not that I didn't
like it using devils ever. No.
Adam Curry: Not using devils who
not you know, what's
John C Dvorak: the point and we
both kind
Adam Curry: of like damn Kenny
Ben's baseball hitting the
mouth. No, the idea true i like
i like to you didn't like you
thought it was too gruesome.
John C Dvorak: No, it was just
the opposite. I liked it. And
use you threw back at me as to
gruesome.
Adam Curry: Well, I repent. You
said dry
John C Dvorak: await him as
you're violating your own
gruesome rule.
Adam Curry: I repent. It's
actually pretty good piece. Now
well,
John C Dvorak: it does. I think
the point is well taken is a
little gruesome. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And then sir Suge
did a, like a wheel of fortune.
Which I guess was supposed to be
adios. mofos I guess.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I didn't
figure right money. Now the
reason adios mofos
Adam Curry: the reason why it's
kind of interesting is you know
Pat's a jack, this is why I
think he did it. Pat say Jack is
ending his 40 year run as the
host of we'll afford last
Friday. It's done. On on May 30.
There was a rather interesting
episode, which I had not heard
about. And quite frankly, I'm
surprised seeing the the level
of maturity of most of our
listeners and of us. Here's a
clip. Our
Unknown: first toss up is worth
$1,000. Category is phrase and
off we go.
Adam Curry: Maurice, right in
the back. He thought the answer
was right in the butt, which
obviously fries not. Wow, that
aired.
John C Dvorak: That aired. Yeah,
well, why not?
Adam Curry: Find rather
interesting. Anyway, we thank
and congratulate Francisco
Scaramanga with his win for
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Adam Curry: now if I recall I
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Adam Curry: that's right he did
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John C Dvorak: but he you know
but I think it only we need the
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you know I was telling Tina
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of all she's like oh wow, this
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whether it was all donations
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Unknown: Our formula is this we
go out we get people in the
mouth
Adam Curry: shut up Yes, shut up
so they just shut up. Oh,
actually, I have a interesting
just a little update, no, no
clip, no clip to play but
that's right, the ever ongoing
vape wars. After remember, the
the FDA, US Food and Drug
Administration really went after
vape juice and vapes in general
and made it so that if you even
wanted to introduce a vape juice
onto the market, you had to pay
them $1 million per flavor per
nicotine level, which pretty
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Everybody fell apart. The whole
industry went dead, including
jewel. And guess what? Now
they've reversed their decision
on the jewel vape Ha, what are
the chances? What are the
chances that they ruin an entire
industry? And then let the
incumbent big wig back in? This
is why we need Chevron deference
What a bunch of horrible people.
Yeah, I'd say it's really it's
really unconscionable what they
did there. But of course you
want
John C Dvorak: I have a cannabis
clip from NPR. Oh,
Adam Curry: let's spark it up
here. Researchers
Unknown: at UCLA say roughly one
in five adults seeking routine
health care or using cannabis
details from NPR is will stone
that
one in five statistic comes from
a large study of electronic
records collected from about
175,000 patients. They had been
asked about cannabis use ahead
of their annual wellness visit
in the UCLA health system, the
majority of patients using
cannabis said they did so to
manage symptoms. The most common
being sleeplessness, pain and
anxiety, about 40% said they use
cannabis weekly inhaling
cannabis was about as common as
ingesting it. The results
generally aligned with previous
research. Those between the age
of 18 and 29 were much more
likely to use cannabis than
people over 60.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
know, I don't think this is
true. I think people over 60
aren't going to say Tell the
doctor that they're using
cannabis. If you go to those
stores, you'll find as
especially outside of California
find that the the pot stores are
filled with old ladies.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I never
thought it was a good idea to
have the pot stores and you got
to show your ID and then you're
on record somewhere and then all
of a sudden they're doing
studies on you and then doing
news articles. But there's a lot
that they're doing, particularly
when it comes to products of
addiction, etc. One of them
being the internet itself. On
the medical
Unknown: watch for you this
afternoon. Excessive use of the
Internet is reshaping teenage
brains. That's according to a
new study by researchers at the
University College London.
Alison cranek is a licensed
counselor with Northwestern
medicine McHenry hospital. She
is an expert on treating
children and teens who are
experiencing an internet
addiction. Allison, thanks for
being with us.
Thanks for having me
already. First of all, let's
clarify what is an addiction?
And what is a teenager just
being a teenager? Sure. So
sure. Last, there's not
currently a diagnosis for
Internet addiction. However,
there are several similarities
between what we refer to as
substance use disorders and the
problems we see associated with
heavy smartphone use and social
media use. So this includes
things like cravings to use
unsuccessful attempts to reduce
their use, feeling powerless to
change their use, and a negative
impact on relationships as a
result of us. So when you start
to see these things, that's when
we start to think there might be
more of a problem versus teens
just being teens.
In some regards. It's a bit like
alcohol or anything else when it
starts affecting other areas of
your life. And this study
essentially said much like some
other things we get addicted to,
it can rewire the brain a little
bit more about that.
Yeah, that's exactly right. So
we know that when we overuse
things like smartphones and
social media, it kind of it gets
into our reward system in the
brain, which involves this
chemical dopamine, which is
essentially we do something
good, feels good and we want
more.
Adam Curry: So then it goes on
and on and on about okay, okay,
fine. We get it is but what's
happening is studies like this
are popping up, and they're now
using it for the following. This
is happening in New York we
Unknown: have breaking news
right now is one step closer to
having two new laws that will
protect kids online. Both
measures have just made it
through the legislature and
Governor vocal says that she
will sign them. One statute is
designed to restrict algorithms
that hook kids on social media
and the other will limit the
collection of personal data. The
governor says that the state
will lead the nation in online
safety by implementing these new
laws
Adam Curry: look for the
following mean blocked for
social media is as addictive as
cigarettes as cocaine as Oreos.
And this will require some form
of ID to be used to sign up for
your social media website. Elon
is salivating Believe me,
because Oh, you might as well
just give me all your details.
So I can open a bank account for
you it's all gonna be groovy
baby. Just trust me. This
John C Dvorak: is a couple of
clips on this but I wanted to
preface it with with something
that happened to me there's a
guy there's an expert on
addiction I forgot his name.
He's a professor and he was
notorious for being the king of
a you know, discussing true
addiction Tiger king. And he I
don't know who to remember, this
was like 25 years ago, and I was
writing a column about it
because I had this thesis at the
time. That the that the mouse
was an addictive implement,
because it was like a slot
machine lever.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, wait
a minute. This was this after
the infamous no evidence
article. Yes, it was
John C Dvorak: after that no
evidence. And so I had this
theory about you know, the mouse
and you hit the reward. So you
get addicted to the computer and
you're clicking on you're
clicking, you're getting
results. So I got a hold of the
professor to discuss this with
because I needed I just need one
attribution so I could throw it
in their garage, right?
Adam Curry: That's how we always
do it. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And he says, No.
He says, No, this is bullcrap.
This is all these phony baloney,
addictions aren't addictions.
Hmm. And it he was very strict
about what's an addiction. It's
something you really you know,
it's literally an addiction
where you'd like hooked on do
heroin or something like that
the rest of this is all
habituation, and all these other
things that happen to you. None
of it's an addiction, there is
no such thing as an Internet
addiction. And yeah, that's what
I said. But
Adam Curry: that doesn't sound
by the way, I
John C Dvorak: wrote the column
anyway, without
Adam Curry: it if the evidence
doesn't if the experts don't
agree, just just say it.
John C Dvorak: Everybody else in
the media. So why be honest?
Well done. Yeah. So. So I so I
take some of these stories, you
know, because I actually took
that to heart. And you know,
none of that there's not an
addiction. If I didn't even I
believe he would say that
cocaine was never an addiction.
It's just a habituation. So it's
because people can just stop it.
So I have a series of clips on
teens in screen time. Here we
go. And this was border line.
Tip for the end of the show. But
if Doug wasn't going to do it,
just go too long. But I'm
thinking about doing this as
this sort of thing is a Tip Tip.
But this is again, back to NPR
and, and this is more thinking
and some advice. This is advice
for you and your teens. And I
think I think this is actually
quite good.
Unknown: early adolescence is a
time when kids are becoming more
independent and spending more
time on social media. When it
comes to curving screen time in
this age group. New research
suggests that what parents do
really matters. And parents
Maria Godoy reports.
I'm the parent of a tween and a
young teen. So when I saw the
findings of a new study on
parenting strategies and screen
use among young adolescents, the
first thing that jumped to my
mind was Taylor Swift.
Yes, parents screentime
influences how much kids use
them. That was one of the
study's key findings. Dr. Jason
Niigata is a pediatrician at UC
San Francisco and the study's
lead author, it's
really important to role model
screen behaviors for your
children because one of the
biggest predictors of your child
are teenagers screen uses
actually parents screen use. The
study
looked at data from more than
10,012 and 13 year olds and
their parents who were asked
about their screen use habits,
including texting, social media,
video chatting, and watching and
browsing online.
Even if teens say that they
don't get influenced by their
parents. It actually the data
does show that actually parents
are a bigger influence than than
they may think. Oh, I'm sure
Adam Curry: that the kids see
their parents. Dream scrolling
all the time.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well shaped
in this household. Yes, this is
tricky. Guess where my phone is?
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna guess
it's in the drawer. Exactly.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: And it's been in
the drawer for the last year and
a half. And I don't know if it's
affected anybody you do a
dinner. Everybody still pulls
her phones out, but not as much
as they used them.
Adam Curry: What do you do when
when people were okay, so when
you're at the dinner table, and
all the all the young uns pull
their phones out? What do you
do? Do you make fun of them? Do
you say something?
John C Dvorak: Something
important, I should know about?
I'll do that to do the ridicule.
I'll also say, Oh, hey, can you
look something up for me? You
know, one of the things I've
always tended to dinner tables,
so there'll be a little debate
about something I said, Well,
who's got a phone let's look it
up. And I make make the slaves
look this information up for me?
Because I don't have a phone.
And so it's and they generally
do although I think this is a
resentment that takes Yeah, take
like that.
Adam Curry: Like look it up for
me. it up for me. Yeah, I like
how you say that. I like I like
that. I
John C Dvorak: like that. Yeah,
it works. After a while they get
a little tired of it. Now just
Adam Curry: to check. Do you
still have a landline? Of
course. Okay, good. Is it one of
those phony VoIP landlines that
you get from your I mean, I
John C Dvorak: hate to admit it,
but it's actually comes off the
Sonic the digital I shouldn't
have
Adam Curry: like a wire out the
window.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Because
it has its own power supply so
the whole place goes everything
goes dark. Exactly. Yeah, I
don't have that. I I'd rather
have but I don't Okay, it's part
two
Unknown: of this Dr. Genuine
dusky is a pediatrician at the
University of Michigan who
studies kids and digital media.
She says she hears parents
expressed feelings of guilt
about their own screen use all
the time. Our immediate
response is like, I am terrible.
I'm so bad at this.
But instead of beating ourselves
up, she says parents should
realize that we too are
vulnerable to technology that's
deliberately designed to keep
our attention glued.
We have been asked to parent
around an increasingly complex
digital ecosystem that's like
actively working against our
limits setting for
ourselves and for our kids. But
that doesn't mean work.
completely powerless. And a god
test study found that keeping
mealtimes and bedtimes screen
free are effective strategies.
Interestingly, the study found
that using screens as a reward
or punishment actually
backfired. It was linked to kids
spending more time on their
devices. Instead, researchers
recommend parents work with
their kids to come up with
consistent family guidelines
about when it's okay to use
screens. And to question what
we're really getting out of it.
Whenever we feel compelled to
keep scrolling. I
Adam Curry: do not like her
voice very bit annoying. There's
a way that her voice is
annoying, and
John C Dvorak: she's very
annoying. And the other thing is
the use of the word screens when
they're talking about cell
phones. Yeah, yeah, because
that's what we're talking about
here. And it's screens, they
means on screens, I did at the
tip in there was that using
screen time as a reward is a bad
idea. So
Adam Curry: there's two
movements here in Texas, one
have a name for it's like eight
or something, eight, eight, I
can't remember what it is. But
the parents are now joining
together. And they're all
because you know, if they've
one, one household doesn't have
phones, it's no good. So the all
the parents are now saying,
let's not give in the local
school here. Let's not give our
kids phones at all until eighth
grade. And they're having some
success with that.
John C Dvorak: But you know, a
kid need a phone for in the
sixth grade.
Adam Curry: They don't that's
the point. Now, the other thing
is, instead of a phone, like
give them a gun, Hey, you want a
gun instead of a phone? Now
you're taught? Yeah, and the
kids, you know, that teaches you
some real responsibility. You
know, then they and they go to
the shooting range, whether they
John C Dvorak: get hold up the
kid, the parents for a phone,
turn around and give
Adam Curry: me a phone mom.
Yeah, oh, these things work
quite well. Actually, I have
some AI stuff, including a
little bit of boots on the
ground, which I thought was kind
of interesting. You know, Adobe,
updated their terms and service,
their terms of service. And Tom
Starkweather, one of our one of
our producers, our top
producers. He quit Adobe. He's
very mad. Have you heard about
this? I mean, he quit it was
working for Adobe. Now he quit
using it. He closed his account.
And many, many Adobe users are
very angry about point 4.2
licenses to your content. Where
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derivative works based on
publicly performing translate
the content. And even though
they came back with a
clarification, because so many
people were mad, and we're
quitting Adobe, well, people
John C Dvorak: get mad easily,
especially when these companies
try to take your stuff.
Adam Curry: Yes, for AI. That
mean that's the whole that's the
whole issue is like you're
taking my stuff and you're
baking it into your LLM. And
you're in essence using my stuff
to sell to other customers.
They're trying to kind of waffle
around it, but it's not working.
And I think this is a crack this
is a interesting crack in the in
the armor okay, I didn't know
about this armor of AI. And yet
this clip led me to a little bit
of research is from the rising
Unknown: free speech or free
will. Former CEO of Twitter Jack
Dorsey argued at the Oslo
Freedom Forum for the latter
actually
Adam Curry: that's not that's
not that clips not interesting.
I'm sorry, I don't even need the
clip to accentuate we've been
seeing these open AI people
writing letters, open letters to
the world. Here's an article
open AI safety staffers are
jumping ship, the jumping ship,
because, you know, they feel
that that you know that they're
not being responsible about the
AI. Political here inside the
culture clash, dominating. I
didn't even know this. But
there's a whole lobbying group
from open AI and other
artificial intelligence
companies that are all in
Washington DC. And, and an old
favorite came back when I kind
of understood what had happened
here, because you know, of
course, we got Biden's executive
order all the senators had a
closed door meeting, because
there's hundreds of millions of
dollars. That's a 10s of
millions of dollars, maybe
hundreds. That is going into
lobbying for AI and of course,
everybody wants to be the most
important AI on the block. But
all of the people they sent all
of the safety people, the board
members that were kicked out of
open ai ai, every single one of
them including The person who
most recently quit, the co
founder was kind of kicked out.
And this guy, Daniel, Coco, Taj,
Hilo, Taj, Lo, all of these
people have one thing in common.
Can you guess what it is?
John C Dvorak: There investors
in AI,
Adam Curry: they are effective
altruists. Oh, no worse. So none
of these people are actually
technology people. Then as I've
looked into it, there, they all,
they all had this idea that
they're going to save the world
with math, this is what AI is
going to do. And they're all so
worried that one day One day,
you maybe in 1020 or 50 years,
will have an actual human acting
artificial intelligence. And
they're worried about the future
me the future self, this is all
part of this call this Effective
Altruism. And that's why they're
jumping ship not because there's
any actual magic sauce going on
there this doing anything. They
just don't like that, that you
know that it's not being done
for good. And that people are
making money on it. It's not
right. This whole thing is a
farce. This is Dave
John C Dvorak: reminded, I'm
reminded of the singularity
people what happened to them
Adam Curry: the same nut jobs
hidden so this Daniel guy who
left their nut jobs, he wrote, I
agree, he wrote a paper. Just
listen to and I read this to
Tina, I say can you tell me what
this means? And they have, you
know, this is how all these
people speak with the it's like,
it's like they literally use
chat GPT listen to this abstract
of his paper. First, we argued
that the appeal of Effective
Altruism, henceforth, eta
depends significantly on a
certain empirical premise, we
call heavy tail hypothesis,
which HTH wishes to show title,
which characterizes the
probability distribution of
opportunities for doing good.
Roughly, the heavy tail
hypothesis implies that the best
causes interventions or
charities produce orders of
magnitude greater good than the
average ones constituting a
substantial portion of the total
amount of good caused by
altruistic interventions. Next,
we canvass arguments that
effective Ultras have given for
the existence of a positive or
right heavy tail and argue that
they can also apply in a sort of
negative or left heavy tail,
where counterproductive
interventions do orders of
magnitude more harm than
ineffective or moderately
harmful ones.
John C Dvorak: These people are
know nothing but since
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. I
knew you would like it. These
people are crazy. They're in a
cult. There's a weird sex angle
to all of this polygamy. Same
goes with a lot of polygamy. So
that's the kicker. Look at Sam
Altman, and tell me that guy is
now on the spectrum in a very
creepy way. And they have
nothing. They've got a cool
demo. Yes. You know, the
millennial male went back and
forth with me. She says, Hey,
John C Dvorak: I'm a millennial
male still around. I bailed out.
I
Adam Curry: know, she's in
Portland. So she is she's having
a rough time. Exactly. Very
happy.
John C Dvorak: That's worse than
New York City.
Adam Curry: She, she says, hey,
you know, I don't want to
convince you of anything. But
you know, I find it I've been
able to code some stuff. I said,
Look, yes, absolutely. You can,
it can help you code. It can
help you write. You know, for an
unskilled coder or an unskilled
writer, even the even the GitHub
copilot, it definitely helps
with coding, anything that has
to do with language, it can
help. It's not going to be
creative. You can't say build me
something build me the next
awesome iPhone app. It has no
idea what to do. And the biggest
problem is it cost too much
money. And right now, and right
now you're getting it for free,
or almost to $20 a month is free
for what it really costs to do
this stuff. And that's the phase
we're in in any tech bubble.
Eyeballs. Baby eyeballs is all
about eyeballs. That's, that's
all they're doing.
John C Dvorak: I think it's
interesting. I was more kind of
fascinated by the heavy tail,
which is a derivative of long
tail, which was a huge trend.
Oh, it's long tail, which was a
another Silicon Valley of one of
the many buzzwords that comes
out of Silicon Valley. And
they're always derivative. So
heavy tail, it makes no sense.
It doesn't make any I mean long
tails. You can kind of
understand it if it's explained.
But heavy tail. What does that
mean?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. What does it mean? I
don't know. But I don't know.
But they're all very concerned
with the world. And you know
that the guy who started this
whole Effective Altruism, some
Brit. Now he's like, I give away
hat. They're doing everything
wrong. I give away half of my
money, you know to good cause
that half of my
John C Dvorak: money half my
money Bill Gates came up with
that scam. Yeah, yeah, give away
half your money to us. Yeah. The
Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation so we can invest it
Adam Curry: to the no agenda
show what's wrong with you?
Well, that's
John C Dvorak: what I'd like to
hear. We got a little of that
from murasky. That's for sure.
Adam Curry: So this end, and
everyone's falling for because
you get these you get easy for
you get the they are, you get
these really complicated.
Actually, the
John C Dvorak: was a
intellectual explanations are
very appealing to a lot of
people what
Adam Curry: you get with
technology press in particular.
And the New York Times has a
technology guy who is not very
bright in my opinion. And all
they do was fond, fond, fond,
because they want the founder
interview. And if you don't find
he don't suck up to the PR
people who send you free gear
and give you free accounts, then
you'll never get the founder
interview. Because of course, we
all want to interview Elon or we
all want to interview Sam
Altman. These are the gods,
their false idols. I'm telling
you, that's how it works. And,
and I mean, my God, man in
video. It's unbelievable. I was
watching the keynote by the CEO.
I want I tried to clip it. I
didn't know how he's talking
about NIMS. And these modules,
and it's going to be the new
world of manufacturing. This is
the new industrial revolution.
I'm like, this isn't this is a
middle aged Asian guy in a
motorcycle jacket. Give me a
break. No. It's nuts. I mean,
yes, with enough power, which is
what they're talking about.
John C Dvorak: The power
required for their new stuff is
just out of out of this and how
Adam Curry: effective altruists
How does that work with climate
change? EAS how's your heavy
tail on that?
John C Dvorak: Back to invidious
and she mentioned him. I met
this guy I had dinner with him
some years ago, before it the
company was what it is today.
This
Adam Curry: guy the Asian guy in
the leather jacket. Yeah.
Jensen, Jensen. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: He very sharp
guy. I think he's at this point
in over his head with this with
the latest stuff. And the
question comes to mind if I was
going to ask him, which I'll
probably never get to see him
again. Because you know, I'm
washed up certainly not.
Adam Curry: After the show,
after, after Thursday show of
John and I were talking and
about being invited. We never
get invited to parties. And John
literally goes with a bit of
sadness in his voice. I'm washed
up. So that's where that came
from. Washed
John C Dvorak: up. So So is what
is the deal with this power
consumption. I mean, they've
always been kind of invidious,
always been kind of cavalier
about their power consumption.
While the whole world is going
in the other direction, about
God, we gotta keep the power
down, we got to keep the power
down. They've never thought that
way. And now it's gotten to the
point where it's ludicrous. The
amount of power that is chewed
up by their chips, they're
doomed to failure, because is it
in the right going in the wrong
direction, especially in a world
of climate change. But
Adam Curry: that doesn't seem to
matter. That doesn't hit the
heavy tail. I'm just going to
keep using this all the time.
You know, the heavy tail
hypothesis of this is that
climate change
John C Dvorak: is big. But once
you use that, oh, it's
Adam Curry: not the same. But
yeah, I mean, yes, with enough
power, I guess. I mean, we can't
even get back to the moon. And
the reason why is we don't have
enough power. We don't have
enough rocket to get there. This
the whole idea of you string
enough computers together, I
guess you can get something out
of it. But it's just predictive.
It's not smart. It's not
intelligence. It's just
nonsense. And, I mean, all that
needs to happen is one, we need
one company to say, Yeah, we're
scaling back on this. We're not
in anymore. What will be
John C Dvorak: the who is going
to be the first company to say
that I don't You can't predict
that. That's gay, I guess jet
GPA, which company is going to
scale back on AI first, okay.
Adam Curry: Chet GPT. Which is
chat dot open. ai.com. Okay. All
right. Prompt jockeys. Okay,
what is that? What am I asking
it? Give me the which
John C Dvorak: company will
scale back on? It's a I plans
first. Okay. It won't answer the
question. I guarantee it.
Adam Curry: Well, okay. First, I
got to be a prompt jockey. And
I'm going to say you are you are
a stock market analyst. Okay.
All right. Oh, no sits that
won't work analyst. Okay. Here's
the question. All right, here we
go. Let's see, searching. Google
is the company that is scaling
back on its AI plans first.
There you go. They say there is
this where's the evidence,
Google decided to reduce the use
of AI generated answers in its
search results. So that's kind
of weak. Google's decision to
scale back involves limiting AI
generated content for certain
queries, man, that's not a real
that's not really good answer.
That's, that's just chat. GPT
slagging off Google not I mean,
that's just
John C Dvorak: especially at
GPT. Looking at the news
stories, Yahoo. Yeah, exactly.
Yahoo News and saying, Oh, look
at this well looks like just
because Google didn't make this
announcement. Because it's such
a failure. Yeah. And it
laughable failure, and it's
creating nothing but ridicule
for Google. So they said that in
a press release, and so they
picked the press release up, and
that was their answer. Okay.
Pretty much, pretty much about
it. It's all you can come up
with. Yeah. I know. They haven't
dissolved the department. No,
Adam Curry: no. But we heard
from our other boots on the
ground guide Microsoft, who
said, you know, it's so
expensive. We had 20 people on
one, one thing, and it was, what
was it? $2,000 a day or
something? I mean, come on. It's
crazy, Chris. You're
John C Dvorak: just a hater.
Adam Curry: I'm not a hater.
It's just I want to know what
else we're going to talk about.
And we happen to understand how
this scam works. We've been
around Silicon Valley long
enough we see it. It's a hype.
In Vidya now is this one stock
keeping the the s&p 501
John C Dvorak: stock is keeping
the market propped up.
Adam Curry: That's amazing. It's
amazing. It
John C Dvorak: is amazing. I
have to say it's amazing. What
else is amazing. Is this China's
secret police. That was the
greatest segway I've ever done.
Adam Curry: I'm probably the
worst, I'd say right up there
with some of mine.
John C Dvorak: But I do have a
couple of clips I want to get
out of here. They've had these
for a while I think. Yes,
they're not new, but it's going
on all over the place and nobody
cares. Okay, here we go. A
Unknown: rare peek into the
inner workings of China's secret
police operation. A former
Chinese spy spilled the beans
after defecting to Australia. He
spoke with NTD about Beijing's
tactics to snatch dissidents
overseas, a confession from a
former Chinese spy. For 15 years
he worked as an undercover agent
helping Beijing track dissidents
around the world and northern
back to China.
Anyone that's against the
Chinese Communist Party on Xi
Jinping could become a target.
The former spy goes by the name
Eric, after defecting to
Australia has now going public,
lifting the veil on a global
operation to snatch those
critical of Beijing. Key to the
operation is a unit inside
China's top police agency called
the first Bureau it's in charge
of agents like Eric.
It's a bit like starting with
the KGB orca estoppel of Nazi
Germany is a political
repression tool. It has only one
goal that is to maintain the
Chinese Communist Party's
controls.
And that includes controlling
voices outside China's borders.
Eric was but one agent spinning
China's web across the globe,
tracking dissidents and waiting
for the right moment to bait and
trap them. According to reports
from safeguard defenders,
Chinese authorities were able to
coerce 12,000 people to return
to China from over 120 countries
over the past decade. Many were
sent back to China without even
their host countries even being
made aware. Eric says he was
responsible for tracking down
dissidents in Australia, Canada,
India, Cambodia and Thailand.
My main job was to collect
information such as getting
inside the target circle to
establish relationships with you
also to learn their plans and
how they need to know what
they're going to do next. This
is really important to the
morphism simply arresting an
Irish person
Adam Curry: what does it have to
do with the price of bread?
John C Dvorak: I find it
interesting that they've got
these agents all over the world
grabbing their own people
dragging them back they then
they stupidly get somehow get
them to volunteer I think
sometimes they black bag them.
But get into vol cow go back you
know, whatever you say. And they
go back and get thrown in jail.
Adam Curry: Good. Get them out.
Get rid of it, take them, take
them China take them. You can
wait from at the border.
John C Dvorak: And then here's
the rest of it.
Unknown: Here's how it works.
My handler was send over a list
of targets. For example, they
want to coerce someone to return
to China. And I will talk to
them to come up with a plan for
how to approach that person
online and in person to see if I
could learn them to a place
where it's easier to take
control of him. One
of the targets was a political
cartoonist called red pepper.
His satirical cartoons often
mocked the Chinese Communist
Party and its leader Xi Jinping.
It was about the end of 2016.
Derek messaged me on Twitter,
saying he likes my cartoons and
wanted to chat privately. He
later communicated through
email, he approached me as
someone that was pro democracy.
Posing as a real estate agent,
Eric asked red pepper to design
a logo for a project. It went
smoothly. Two
years later, this was a contract
to win my crush, we'll assume
that
once the logo was done, Eric
extended another job offer with
one condition that red pepper
had to go to Cambodia for the
job interview. I don't know. But
I
have a bad impression of
Southeast Asian countries that
they're not safe. I don't trust
them because of their human
rights records, especially
Cambodia. So I replied to him
saying I wouldn't go to
Thailand, Burma, Laos. These
countries are the top choices
for Chinese secret police trying
to patch dissidents. Governments
turn a blind eye to Chinese
operations. And sometimes we've
been worked with Chinese agents.
Red Pepper was in the dark about
the plan to snatch him until the
reporter from the Australian
Broadcasting cooperation reached
out to him to confirm Eric's
story. Turns
out the error and that was in
communication with me defective.
Eric said he was coerced into
working as a spy and always want
it to flee. asked why he went
public with his closely guarded
secrets.
Of course, I have my own
reasons. Some of them I can't
really disclose. But also like
what the news report says, it
fits into my values. I have
always believed that the inner
workings of the secret world
should be disclosed one day,
Donald Trump don't trust China,
China is as HoH I wonder how
John C Dvorak: much of this
stuff we do.
Adam Curry: None of it. None of
that. Oh, we're not gonna bring
people back. We tax you on the
way out? No. I'm gonna bring us
back down to earth here with
just two clips. These are very
important clips because the
latest thing that everyone was
all concerned about concern
we've moved, moved to threat
level concerned about Donald
Trump concerned about his
revenge
Unknown: tonight dank on the
campaign trail for the first
time since he was convicted of
34 criminal counts. Former
President Donald Trump
increasingly focused on revenge
through a rigged trial in New
York.
In a series of interviews, Trump
implying that if he's reelected,
he will see payback against
Democrats, including Joe Biden,
look,
when this election is over,
based on what they've done, I
would have every right to go
after them. And it's easy
because it's Joe Biden
in an interview with Dr. Phil,
he doubled down and we're you
have so much to do. You don't
have time to get even. You only
have time to get right.
Well, revenge does take time. I
will say that does and sometimes
revenge can be justified. Phil,
I have to be honest, you know,
sometimes it can in another
interview dodging a question
about whether he would order the
Justice Department to prosecute
Manhattan district attorney,
Alvin Bragg, who brought the
case that led to his conviction,
saying, quote, we're going to
see what happens you're gonna
see
John C Dvorak: what happens.
Yeah, this is all mind reading.
Listen, carefully parse this
what Trump has been saying and
he's I've saw it seen all these
I saw the bill thing and all the
rest of it. He's, he's mostly
saying this has to stop and I
don't want to continue it. You
know, we can't keep going like
this. It shouldn't happen to
another guy. Like, what happened
to me shouldn't happen to
anybody again, I don't care who
it is. He's really going out of
his way to say just the opposite
of what this reporter is saying.
This is a lie. What is basically
is this is dishonest reporting.
Adam Curry: What is so cool
about this, where did it come
from? By the way, that was CNN?
No, I'm sorry. That was ABC.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what CNN
would make a lot of sense, but
Well, here's inexcusable. So
Adam Curry: here's a CNN clip.
Laura Coates. And she has Eric
Holder, former Attorney General.
On the show, too, we
John C Dvorak: should have been
arrested. Talking
Adam Curry: about this revenge.
This is probably the most
perfect example of Vetches f
being itself Mitch a cop door to
health
John C Dvorak: lawyer. This is I
will I want to help you out
here. I'm going to preface this
for you. This clip is being used
a lot by the right to show
exactly what you said. But I say
you are I am. It is a terrific
clip. You just
Unknown: describe a little bit
in terms of the role of how it
transforms an attorney general
we're not looking at things
truly from the facts purely from
the evidentiary but And then how
to meet it, but instead taking
directives on who to prosecute
from the president united
states, sure,
if the President told a
compliant Attorney General, I
don't like what this congressman
said about me or did about me,
did to me the course of the last
two, three years, whatever,
opening an investigation on that
person, that attorney general
could tell a compliant United
States attorney to do just that.
Talk to a compliant FBI director
who could be replaced by the the
President, to open any
investigation, and then to just
look through that person's life
and look for anything that you
possibly can find. And close to
say what you find in any
person's life that might run
afoul of the law. And even
beyond that, the fact the mere
fact of an investigation of a
person who is a public figure
can be reputation ruining, can
be politically damaging, not
even if you find anything, just
the fact that the investigation
itself exists. And if you've got
the full weight of the Justice
Department, the full weight of
the presidency, the full weight
of the FBI, focusing on somebody
like that, that can be extremely
damaging to not only that person
individually, but to our
democracy writ large.
John C Dvorak: Exactly what
they've done, exactly what
they've done. It's an
unbelievable clip.
Adam Curry: And, you know, this
is a pre tip. This is before you
get the tip, this is just
showing you the tip, if someone
we are a constitutional
Republican American, a
constitutional representative
Republic, actually, if anyone
says, that's a danger to
democracy, or you're a danger to
democracy, your answer should be
You're darn right. It is.
Democracy, the founding fathers
called the democracy, which is
what these people want. This has
to stop, we have to change our
words, stop using democracy.
Democracy is a threat to
democracy. Yeah, it's all a
threat to democracy as it should
be. That was my pre tip.
John C Dvorak: Okay, you
Adam Curry: know, like, I don't
have my pre trip, I'm sorry.
Back
John C Dvorak: to this. I do
like it. So I have a couple of
clips from the last show that I
want to lay out because I've
decided that and I have a
thought on this. These are the
two clips of Trump off the hook.
One of them is very short.
They're both pretty short. But
let's start with Trump off the
hook. Georgia,
Unknown: former President Donald
Trump won two legal victories
today. In Georgia, the Court of
Appeals is delaying any action
on the election interference
case against Trump until October
at the earliest. And a federal
judge in Florida is postponing
key hearings in the classified
documents case pending there.
John C Dvorak: It's all except
there's another clip that says
pretty much the same thing. And
I was listening to this stuff.
And I'm going oh, that's Oh,
yeah, the reason is because all
they wanted to do was be able to
use the term convicted felon.
And so these other cases are now
who cares what there was as a
mag, we already have him
convicted felon on 3234
felonies. And so that's all you
need. That's all they wanted.
That's what they got. And so
these other cases are all going
to fall by the wayside. They're
never going to conclude we're
never going to hear about him
anymore about the documents and
Mar a Lago or anything else
because they got what they
wanted the moniker that's all
they wanted was that they can
use in their in their promotions
for Joe Biden to get reelected
and
Adam Curry: I think you've seen
many of because you're on Tiktok
all the time. I'm think you've
seen the clips where people go,
Bob, yeah, I'm voting for a
convicted felon. I like it. I
mean, this is people are saying
this over and over again. Yeah,
I'm voting for for the guy who
who's a lesser criminal of all
of this stuff. It's a total
backfire. And you still gotta
wonder, isn't a just exactly
done to get him elected, so that
can do the big rug poll, and
then have everything collapse,
including Nvidia. All of it, all
of it in one go.
John C Dvorak: Man was played. I
missed some analysis clips. I
want to play this one. There's
two of them. Actually. They're
pretty good dissent. This is NPR
they bring an analyst and they
talk about stuff. Play NPR
analysis, Trump 34. This is
about that.
Unknown: been more than a week
since Donald Trump was convicted
on 34 felony charges? Still
early, of course. But any
indication if it's changing
votes,
I think we can say that the
conviction has overall been a
net negative for Trump, but
really only marginally. I mean,
that's what polls had showed
coming in that that was most
likely and it seems to be
playing out that way. So far,
it's only been a week. Since the
conviction. We'll see if this is
just a bump or something more
lasting. More important is
whether this moves any key
groups that had been wavering
about voting for Biden, in
particular, younger voters who
had been the most likely to say
beforehand that they could be
moved depending on on the on the
verdict. This election you know
is expected to be close. Any
movement on the margins could be
decisive, of course,
John C Dvorak: way he saw he
talks about any key groups that
might be affected by this. And
he doesn't mention mentioned
black males. Well, no, no, they
started younger people are gonna
think twice about this. Black
Adam Curry: males don't exist
anymore for people at NPR.
There's not a row not exist. You
nailed it. Yeah, they're not
less than males are out. That's
right. They're no longer
important. Screw
John C Dvorak: you black males.
So streamers like blackmail?
Yeah. So I got one. Let me play
this clip to this the NPR
analysis about Ukraine and
Trump. President
Unknown: Biden is in France, as
we speak, to observe the 80th
anniversary of the D Day
landings in Normandy. speech, he
said the heroes of that day are
so many of us now.
They're not asking us to do
their job. They're asking us to
do our job to protect freedom in
our time, to defend democracy,
to stand up aggression of
democracy and at home
to Medeco. He didn't mention
Donald Trump by name. But
well, this is a huge dividing
line foreign policy between
Biden and Trump very different
approaches to the world and
their Biden is implicitly
warning against creeping
isolationism and separation from
allies suddenly in Trump has
really made a hallmark of his
own foreign policy, really
turning more inward. Biden is
more of a traditionalist
believing that American
involvement moral leadership is
very important around the world
as obviously was the case in
World War Two and after it? Of
course, the backdrop of all this
is the war in Ukraine, you know,
Biden supports more funding of
the war and standing behind the
country under siege from Russia.
With Trump, on the other hand,
you know, there are lots of
questions about maybe how much
territory would he encourage
Ukraine to give away to Russia
in order to get the war to end?
This is very different
approaches that we've seen from
Biden and from Trump, and very
different ways in which our
allies see the approach that the
United States could take,
depending on who wins
Adam Curry: this election. Your
analysis, your analysis, yeah,
John C Dvorak: P. Trump is an
obvious peacenik. And he'll do
anything to end a war, he
doesn't see any benefit in it.
He's a real estate guy, not a
military industrial complex guy.
And that's what's going to
happen. They have to do a reset
here. Now, taking it a little
more in depth where we think
that you know, this whole thing
may be a setup, just to get
Trump in for some reason or
other might have some influence
on that. But now he's, he's not
going to let this continue.
Right. As far as I can tell, I'm
going to be wrong. It's going to
turn into a war monger. I don't
see any evidence of it. Of
Adam Curry: course, the real
news is the the the new thing
that is sweeping, tick tock. Do
the Biden have you seen the dude
the Biden meme?
John C Dvorak: Yes, actually, I
I reposted it this morning.
Yeah. Do the body do the Biden
where
Adam Curry: you just kind of
squat down? Like poop like
you're pooping? Yeah. It's like
everyone's doing it. Now. Do the
Biden dance. It's it's a very
slow dance,
John C Dvorak: slow dance.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my
school by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all this evil who could
do that? Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
Adam Curry: We do have a couple
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Qian, I think your podcast has
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Adam Curry: Who would have
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John C Dvorak: Then she goes on
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Adam Curry: And a switcheroo for
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Excellent. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Which are really
they fight a lot when he says
Adam Curry: but the making up 20
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Yeah. And they said the makeup
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no agenda meet up no agenda
meetups.com The 11th northwest
Houston meetup sir economic
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had myself the economic hitman
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got a recorded report here from
the Denver meetup. Hey, folks,
Unknown: welcome from the Denver
City parks meet up. It's the
80th anniversary of D Day.
And with all due respect from
Joe Biden,
I think a lot of people shit
themselves on the beach of the
day. This
is Colin, this is the thing I am
saying right now and I hope you
are having a great day in the
morning. This
is Sir soothsayer. I'm working
on building my bus. And I for
one did not put
myself today.
It's just assumption we're just
checking in in the morning over
at the city park and come by and
visit us next time
Adam Curry: for me to out.
Sounds like someone brought the
gummies Alright, thank you very
much Denver meetups on the
horizon. Today there is a
southwest New Hampshire meetup,
which is underway as we speak at
Keene local burger. We've got
the Thursday the meet of 333
central golf balls meet up at
Riverside Park, the leech
Amphitheater in Oshkosh,
Wisconsin. And coming up we've
got Virginia Mosley, Virginia,
Ohio, San Diego, of course the
big meet up on June 15. at
Schiphol Airport in the
Netherlands. I will be there. I
think over 100 people have
already registered it's going to
be a Hootenanny, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Georgia, North
Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana
Edmonds, Washington, Central
Ohio, Tilburg, the Netherlands
on the 23rd. The list goes on
and on. All the way through to
July is what I'm seeing here,
but they even are registered
beyond that. Go to no agenda
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your people. And there's never
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discussions but no one ever gets
mad. There's never no fist
fighting breaking out. It's just
a good time and you will have a
group of people typically they
get a telegram group together
and you all talk to each other
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It's easy and a party
Unknown: with all the nights and
days you won't be triggered. You
wouldn't be safe
Adam Curry: is like a bar. Like
a pie. Like a party everybody
like a party? I have to I
suppose. You have a lot. Why
don't you go first? You got a
lot of ISOs today. So
John C Dvorak: these are all
experimental. ISOs Okay,
Adam Curry: experimental ISOs it
is everybody who
John C Dvorak: can happen. Start
with the top one. Enjoy. Okay,
here we go. They'll enjoy the
food. Yeah, okay. Forbidden
which
Unknown: is forbidden in Islam.
Adam Curry: Okay. Horrible.
Horrible. The I liked that one.
Nice and clean.
John C Dvorak: Thank you.
Unknown: Thank you. very
Adam Curry: experimental, and a
classic
John C Dvorak: is a new Wow.
Wow. That's
Adam Curry: probably the best
one. That's a good wow. But I
don't know I may. I may have you
beat here. Let's try this one
country. ganda hell. Come on.
John C Dvorak: Come on. Get to
do the show.
Unknown: That is insane. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Borderline
borderline Well, what do you
what do you like? Man, I
John C Dvorak: think was the
rest of yours.
Adam Curry: I only had to I
don't wish that I had to. Thank
you. I think the Thank you.
Maybe I can do that. Wow. Thank
you. And while together, let me
see. Because that might actually
be a little better. Hold on. Let
me see.
Unknown: Thank you. Wow.
John C Dvorak: It's still at the
other way around.
Adam Curry: Wow. Thank you. Wow,
thank you. You call it Which way
do you want it? I know it's hard
to grow.
John C Dvorak: Thank you is it
doesn't have the same intonation
as the wow.
Adam Curry: I think thank you.
Thank you. And then how about
horrible and
John C Dvorak: horrible and
thank you
Adam Curry: see, I didn't like
the horrible.
Unknown: Horrible Thank you
know, just
Adam Curry: do Thank you. I'm
done with this. We'll just do
thank you. And now ladies and
gentlemen. It is time for you
know what it's time for.
Unknown: Mastery. You just JC?
And sometimes.
Adam Curry: Hey, ma'am. That's a
jingle that's a jingle right
there. Thank you. Sure. All
right, what's your tip?
John C Dvorak: Let's say you had
to know
Adam Curry: you were going to do
a tip off. You do the tip than I
do a tip.
John C Dvorak: I got a tip. Want
you to do this for people who
this is a tip for people who
have the habit of drinking soda
or water or whatever. And dosh
dashing it with a bunch of apple
cider vinegar is either for
health benefits, gut health and
have a leaky gut, gut health or
losing weight. Go to go to
amazon.com and get the
hengstenberg 13 fine herbs
flavored German vinegar
seasoning instead. And use that
instead of apple cider vinegar.
It is delicious in in like I'm
using it now that Topo Chico,
you dump a bunch of onion, like
a tablespoon of the vinegar into
the water and you get something
that's refreshing and delicious.
It's Kingston hengstenberg. You
can look it up by putting herb
flavored vinegar and you'll find
a bunch of people that make
these things. Alright.
Adam Curry: I have three tips
actually, for my tip, tip one
read Yes. Tip one. Never ever
asked your wife to help you with
the tip. She was very mad that
you should do your own tip.
Second tip. Sending email to me.
Mark important puts you to the
bottom of the list. Do you see
this? People who send email and
then go through the trouble of
marking it important and then
even asking for a return
receipt. bottom of the list.
John C Dvorak: I haven't had
that probably for 10 years.
Adam Curry: Oh it has happens
every day in my email program
which
John C Dvorak: because you never
answer your email, I'm very,
very good at answering emails,
or
Adam Curry: you don't even
answer my email. What are you
talking about? Now because on
Thunderbird which I've been
using to great success
Thunderbird, actually, it shows
up as red and then it's very
annoying. So I just delete
John C Dvorak: it when I see
okay, well that's no good. And
disable that coloring.
Adam Curry: And finally, if you
are if you are a fan of, of
making coffee with ground
coffee, so in a filter or the
way I do it, which is with the
French press, put a dash of salt
on top of your coffee. It not
only reduces bitterness, but it
also brings prosperity to your
family. Hmm
John C Dvorak: Yeah, them some
dead dad some dangerously good
Unknown: tips. John C. With the
tip of the day, he's gonna tell
us what he would do in every
possible way. John, just
Adam Curry: There you go. We got
to work on it. The jingles are
better than the tip so far, but
we're working on it, working on
it. And some other tips but I
decided against them. Just gonna
go with these tips. Thank you
all very much trolls for tuning
in. I wouldn't go away if I were
you because coming right up on
the screen we have that Larry
show that Larry who donates to
this show. He is the one with
the big pipes. The big heavy
voice and he will be unmasking
demons on today's show. Whoa,
whoo. We got some major show
mixes Professor Jay Jones, winds
it all up for us with he's from
China. So be careful before they
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or whatever it is. And where are
the people doing songs John
wanted to know we need more
parody songs coming to you from
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in Fredericksburg,
Texas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley, where
everybody's wondering why we
haven't got good end of show
mixes anymore. I'm John C.
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great Sunday. Adios mofos a hui
Hui, and such
Unknown: data that tell the
truth is a bad idea. You want to
call it a difficult
game these days? Want to wait
for us to get vaccinated?
When you make it difficult for
people in their lives their
ideological bullshit telling the
truth can be dangerous.
Dangerous business is that
brilliant. When you make it
difficult for people in their
lives they lose their
ideological bullshit children
in school. were put in class
dangerous business forced to
wear masks. muzzled no one there
still and
the truth is, is scary to you
belong in prison,
Dr. Fauci while you and all your
cronies get paid from big pharma
your repulsive evil science
telling the truth
every day. Honest and popular
don't go in the county or
something. If you admit that,
you know you're gonna live in
this world that brilliant.
This is your own email. You just
keep effective in keeping out of
the virus when you make it
difficult for people in their
lives for crimes against
humanity to understand many
respected their ideological
bullshit
while you and all your cronies
get paid.
You were lucky when Dr. Fauci
did that to you because Dr. Idea
don't understand the meaning
respect to telling the truth
becomes this huge.
Dr. House where
are you in our rock and roll
band?
Training School were printed
plastic bubbles.
Is that brilliant?
Everybody by me has an AIPAC
person. It's like you're babysat
or you're a pack babysitter.
Little wall tape
sticks to the wall. sent me in
and they picked Person C sharp
and got your cell number.
Like Gil. Now that's wrong what
AIPAC is doing. Let me talk to
my AIPAC person. Has the
Congressman been to Israel and
all the others fight? They don't
have a Germany dude. I'll talk
to my APEC guy and see.
Is there any other Republican
who has to do something?
Why would they want to tell
their constituents?
I wish I could vote
with you today.
Brooke, every member has some
interest firmly embedded in
AIPAC.
I'll talk to my AIPAC person.
They've got your cell number. Is
there any other Republican who
has your
study by me has an AIPAC person
like your babysitter, your APEC,
babysitter? They don't have a
job. That's wrong. What AIPAC is
doing. Let me talk to my APEC
person has an APEC person. I'll
talk to my APEC guide
mobo boruch.org/in Wow.