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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where you miss
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the Federal holiday. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Greg Levin,
Buzzkill. We had holiday. What
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holiday is it a holiday today?
No. Once the holiday yesterday
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John C Dvorak: was a holiday it
was federal holiday. What?
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Adam Curry: Oh, god OH.
Juneteenth Of course. How could
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I miss the fact that
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John C Dvorak: I would like to
start to show us some
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gaslighting clips.
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Adam Curry: Some okay. Now, by
the way, did you know because I,
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I think you had part of it or
have all of it in the
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newsletter. I don't really
remember because I couldn't.
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When you sent it to me, there's
no way I could I could get to
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looking at it. Originally,
Juneteenth was celebrated on
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January 1. Did you know that?
No, yeah. That's when the
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John C Dvorak: what would it be
called June? What makes it even
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worse? Today, January 1, to make
sense, obviously,
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Adam Curry: I'm guessing it a
bit a little bit. But black
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Americans used to celebrate
January 1, because 1863 is when
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slavery ended. That's when the
Emancipation Proclamation was
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signed by President Abraham
Lincoln. And then, of course,
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this Texas thing in Galveston 80
to two years later, it makes no
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sense because black Americans
used to celebrate on January 1.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I think
that's what would lead right
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into the Juneteenth clip that
you'll like,
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Adam Curry: okay. The Juneteenth
BS clip. Is that it by any
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chance?
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Unknown: When I hear well,
people explained Juneteenth, it
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makes me wish that Rosa Parks
personally forced you all to sit
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in the front of a school bus and
go to history class. Now walk
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with me. Walk with me. The left
has convinced you that
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Juneteenth was the abolition of
slavery when a black revolution
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arose, but what it really proved
is that some people remain
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enslaved mentally. And that's
all it takes to keep you on the
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plantation. If you know the
actual history, Democrats kept
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black people enslaved for two
and a half years after slavery
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was abolished until white,
mostly right wing men came on
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June 19 1865, and said y'all
have been free since 1863. Get
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off the plantation and go get a
job. I wish we could celebrate
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what Juneteenth actually is. But
instead, we continue to let the
2:44
left repackage segregation and
sell it back to us. There is no
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such thing as a black
Independence Day, but if that's
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what you want to call
Juneteenth, then I don't want to
2:51
see all twerking on a bow on
July 4.
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Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
That's, that's such a better way
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to explain it. I hadn't even
thought of it that way.
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Democrats kept it quiet.
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John C Dvorak: I like that.
Which brings me to the more that
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was gaslighting, which I
discussed in the newsletter.
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Yeah, I had a gas lighting
promotion, which nobody bought
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into so we had a very lousy us
showing for the for the
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donations but it brings me to
John Pierre Van Damme.
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Adam Curry: Oh, baby, I love I
love this clip. I love this
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whole topic.
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John C Dvorak: Well, here we go
like this starts. The first one
3:30
is John Pierre, deep fakes. This
is her at a press at the press
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conference. Oh,
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Adam Curry: I thought you're
gonna start with the okay. I
3:38
thought you're gonna start with
a supercut
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Unknown: of videos that have
been edited to make the
3:44
president
3:44
appear especially frail or
mentally confused. I'm wondering
3:48
if the White House is especially
worried about the fact that this
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appears to be
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a pattern that we're seeing
more. Yeah, we and I think you
3:54
all have called this the cheap
fakes video. And that's exactly
3:57
what they are. They are cheap
fakes video.
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Adam Curry: I love this part,
John, because this is the memo
4:02
they sent out earlier.
Obviously,
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Unknown: they're done in batch.
And in some of your news
4:08
organization, have have been
very clear have stressed that
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these right wing critics of the
President have a credibility
4:17
problem. Because of the fact
checkers have repeatedly caught
4:21
them pushing misinformation
disinformation. And so we see
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this and this is something
coming from from your your part
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of the world calling them cheap
fakes and misinformation. And
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I'll quote The Washington Post
where they wrote they wrote
4:36
about this and they said, how
Republican use misleading videos
4:39
to attack Biden in a 24 hour
period. And to their credit, we
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have a conservative Washington
Examiner did call them out as
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well call me out the New York
Post. Ironically, several
4:52
several recent fakes actually
attacked the president for
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thanking troops for thinking
through so that is what they're
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attacking President And for both
enormity, this happen and again
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in Italy. And I think that it
tells you everything that we
5:07
need to know about how, how
desperate, how desperate
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Republicans are here. And
instead of talking about the
5:15
President's performance in
office, and what I mean by that
5:18
is his legislative wins what
he's been able to do for the
5:21
American people across the
country. We're seeing these deep
5:24
fakes these manipulated videos,
and it is again, done in bad
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faith
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Adam Curry: fact check. False.
God, I love this. I love I love
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that you got the longer version
of it because the was trending
5:39
online was like 47 seconds or so
it wasn't really
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, she
goes on, and I have the
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Adam Curry: other. We can play
that later. I have the there
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were three other questions that
that were asked that no one has
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really played.
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John C Dvorak: We could play
that play. There's this I'll
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finish this with a capital war
here is first of all, after she
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did this, she went on Nicole
wall Wallace, which is to clip J
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OJJO, which is kind of what she
was doing. Nicole Wallace and
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she and she doubles down with
the same and I liked the way she
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she pushes the idea that the
whole deep fake terminology was
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not her idea. Oh, no, it was it
was the media. They
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Unknown: think there is so much
misinformation disinformation,
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as we've been talking about. You
talked about the video the
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president wandering and it's not
true, right. The President
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wasn't wandering a parish
shooter that was right in front
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of him. And what you saw is the
Republican Party, really
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manipulating what was being said
and what was being seen by the
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American people is also very
insulting to the folks who are
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the viewers who are watching it.
And we believe we have to call
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that out. We've been calling it
that is something that came from
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directly from the media outlets,
calling it that the fact
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checkers and calling it that
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Adam Curry: yeah, I love that.
The media, we didn't come up
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with it. It was the media
doesn't meet the fact checkers
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came up with it. fact checkers
whose job is to check facts came
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up with the whole term.
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John C Dvorak: And so that last
clip was just a supercut. And
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then you can play that other one
is the is just the word went
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out. And so this is all clips
from MSNBC and CNN various
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stages, including people that I
thought were off the air like
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Stelter was still going on and
on making it up as they go
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along, as if Joe Biden wasn't
staggering around cheap fakes,
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videos of relevance that are
intentionally manipulated
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Korean, John
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Unknown: Pierre and others are
calling these cheap fakes. But
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what it is, is truly deceitful
behavior,
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what the White House is calling
cheap fakes,
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who are hearing about so called
cheap fakes. It's playing out on
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right wing media, these videos.
I mean, they're blatant lies.
7:56
These are cheap fakes with a
White House and Biden, people
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call them cheap.
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fakes are a little bit simpler.
They're cheap. They're just
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distorted out of context videos
chopped up in certain ways
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constructed in certain ways.
That's what we're seeing. We've
8:07
seen all of the cheap fakes Joe
Biden's suggesting that he's out
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of it.
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Adam Curry: So yeah, I did hear
Stelter, what's he even doing
8:16
there? Is did he call in as a
guest?
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John C Dvorak: He was in he was
on the table as a guest on
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Adam Curry: the table as a
guest.
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John C Dvorak: Well on the
table,
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Adam Curry: well, I gotta, I
gotta hand it to whoever came up
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with this because they knew that
they couldn't use deep fake
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because, obviously, it's not AI
but they want to allude to that
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allude to the deep fake. And
then they throw in the cheap
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fake, I think it was a it was a
good term. Of course, they
8:44
passed out the memo to their as
you pointed out, their stooges.
8:48
And they also they kind of took
our wind away from us. If we go
8:51
back to January 28 of this year,
no agenda episode 1629. What are
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we talking about them? I think
when it comes to AI, we had an
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event take place, something is
on the horizon. I have said that
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this AI stuff. The way it's
going to be used is something's
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gonna come out. And we need to
flood the market with thinking
9:16
like, oh, that's just AI guy.
No, that's not real. That's just
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AI, and this is part of the
Swift up.
9:23
Unknown: Now a disturbing trend
on social media struck one of
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the world's biggest stars this
week, when explicit AI generated
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images of Taylor Swift began to
circulate on x. Now,
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Adam Curry: Elon Musk is great
at making money from the
9:39
government. So I wouldn't put it
past him somehow he's involved
9:42
in this
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John C Dvorak: up this is
nothing new. This is nothing new
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at all. No, but
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Adam Curry: what I think is
happening and I have a piece of
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John Claude Van Damme here with
the question that was asked
9:53
about this all White House is
concerned. Why is the White
9:56
House concerned? Something's
coming out. Listen to the Setup
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question. Listen to her answer
it
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Unknown: there were being
sexually explicit images of
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Taylor Swift all over social
media this week like, narrated
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by AI. Concern, is the White
House about the misuse of this
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kind of technology. And does the
White House want to see Congress
10:15
moving forward legislation that
would make sharing posting
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images like that?
10:21
So I'm glad you asked that
question, because it is.
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Adam Curry: First of all, all
these questions are approved
10:27
before the press conference. So
for jump here about Claude Van
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Damme to say, I'm glad you asked
that question. This was a setup
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question.
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Unknown: We are alarmed by the
reports of the circulation of
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images that you just laid out a
false images to be more exact,
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and it is alarming. So while
social media is alarming, their
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own independent decisions about
content management, we believe
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they have an important role to
play in enforcing enforcing
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their own rules to prevent the
spread of misinformation.
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Adam Curry: So we don't get the
full two points. And then we get
11:04
1.1 point for the setup. It just
was it just wasn't a diff. It
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was close enough. Close enough.
And there we go. Now that deep
11:15
fakes are firmly embedded in
everybody's mind, they use a
11:18
different term, the cheap fake.
Although we all saw we all saw
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what really happened before I
get
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John C Dvorak: to it, and they
show and there's an extended
11:26
version of those clips, all
unedited. There's no edits at
11:30
all, by enrollment around
daggering.
11:33
Adam Curry: Don't believe your
lying eyes is what they're
11:35
saying. You're not seeing that.
No, no, no, no, you're seeing
11:39
something wrong. That's just
your bias. CBS also jumped in. I
11:44
mean, I do have a couple of
short ones here from CBS. So it
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wasn't just the cable companies
you've
11:48
Unknown: probably heard of deep
fakes. But just last week as
11:52
President Biden was at the g7
summit in Italy, cheap fake
11:55
clips went viral on social media
and were picked up by some news
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outlets.
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Adam Curry: Just don't you think
that this new term, they just
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roll it out? Like everybody
knows what it is? It's just
12:07
like, no
12:07
John C Dvorak: one's believable
that CBS could have eluded me.
12:11
But that's that's more
ridiculous in the MSNBC CNN
12:15
clips because they say it as a
matter of
12:16
Unknown: fact, take a look at
this clip. For example, it shows
12:20
Biden and other world leaders
watching a skydiving
12:23
demonstration. Before the
President is seen walking away
12:27
and looking in another direction
walking away outlets, claimed
12:32
that he was sort of just
aimlessly wandering away. The
12:37
clip amassed millions of views
within just a few hours, when
12:41
actually he if you widen out,
you can see that he was talking
12:45
to one of the members of the
military that was participating
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in that demo. How prevalent are
cheap fakes and how big of a
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problem will really be in this
election? WILDerland. Let's take
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a look with executive editor of
CBS News confirmed Rona Tarrant
13:01
who joins us now from 57 to
explain Hi, Ron. It's great to
13:06
see you so
13:07
Adam Curry: high. So they're
bringing the executive editor
13:11
John, this is not just some
slouch. This is not some pundit.
13:14
John C Dvorak: Oh, they're
freaked out. This is guy now
13:16
that you did did this makes it
obvious that they're freaked out
13:21
about this? And they're due and
they're bringing in the big guns
13:24
and you're doing everything they
can do gaslight which is the
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theme here is gaslight, the
public and use this term cheap.
13:32
There's no fakery involved. He
turned around started wandering
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off. What's the fake part?
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Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
let's go to this term. I mean,
13:43
this cheap fakes you and I would
dummies, it's been around man,
13:48
tell us how long
13:49
Unknown: cheap fakes have been
around. I'm assuming they've
13:51
been around since the beginning
of the media, because you know,
13:56
anybody?
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Adam Curry: Yeah, pretty much
every night on the news lady
14:02
Unknown: can take an image and
manipulate it to make it look
14:06
like it's just something that
didn't
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happen. That's exactly it. It
really is a case of all
14:11
Adam Curry: Oh, no, listen to
that. Another Brit running our
14:14
news go figure
14:15
Unknown: meets new technology.
So as you said, cheap, fake
14:18
videos, not videos that are
edited in a really simple way.
14:21
Those have been around as long
as political videos have
14:24
existed. So there's a few ways
for example that people might be
14:27
familiar with. One is there
might be a long video and you
14:30
might take a very short clip and
you take our key context.
14:33
Another is maybe you slow
something down and it makes it
14:36
sound like someone was slurring
their words.
14:38
Adam Curry: That was when Pelosi
was actually drunk, but no, it
14:41
was slow down, okay?
14:42
Unknown: Or another as you might
supply several pieces together
14:45
and it makes it sound like
someone said something that they
14:47
didn't. This is literally
14:49
Adam Curry: describing every Joe
Biden video that's out there
14:52
when he's literally describing
14:54
John C Dvorak: what CBS News has
been doing for years.
14:57
Unknown: What's different in
this election and the last two
14:59
weeks elections in the
presidential elections is,
15:03
number one, everyone has access
to mobile phones where they can
15:06
edit. And number two, most
people have social media
15:09
accounts where they can publish
this stuff. So
15:12
John C Dvorak: what was the
Okay, let's start stop it. Does
15:15
she explain what exactly the
Edit was? When Joe Biden turned
15:20
around and started walking
toward the right in the wrong
15:23
direction toward this other
paratrooper that was over there,
15:26
we all saw what it was a guy was
packing his bags, they started
15:29
talking to him, the guy was
trying to get out of there. And
15:33
meanwhile, the action was in the
front, where were they? Where
15:36
the cameras were? Yeah. And
Maloney had to go over there and
15:39
grab him and say, Hey, over
here, no. So everyone came
15:43
Adam Curry: around, and then
came behind him looking in the
15:46
other direction. So it he would
turn around, if you remember
15:48
correctly. So they were all
looking in the right direction.
15:52
They just they went over there
or
15:53
John C Dvorak: came around
again, from doing it again.
15:55
Yeah, where was the edit?
15:59
Adam Curry: Was deceptively
edited
16:00
Unknown: social media accounts
where they can publish this
16:02
stuff. So it's worth saying
these are not anything new, you
16:06
know, when Trump was president,
these targeted him as well. But
16:09
what we are seeing in the last
few weeks is really the steady
16:11
stream of videos that are
targeting President Biden and in
16:15
particular, taking aim at his
age. Ah, that's
16:19
Adam Curry: it, they're taking
aim at his age, because you
16:21
can't do that with Trump for
some reason. That's weird. Okay,
16:25
so what is the impact? I mean,
this has got to be very
16:28
impactful. This can sway voters,
is
16:30
Unknown: there any way to
measure the impact that these
16:33
videos could have on the 2024?
Election? Yeah,
16:36
Adam Curry: just look at the
download numbers, like
16:38
podcasting. It's so accurate in
comparison
16:40
Unknown: to other forms of
misinformation. You know, that's
16:43
a really great, great question.
16:44
Adam Curry: You want to respond,
16:47
John C Dvorak: man, is that even
remotely a great question. And
16:51
by the way, it's just like, This
is so misleading. It's shameful,
16:57
Adam Curry: is it? That's what
makes it so groovy, though, for
16:59
this something I really liked it
for us for us. Is this doc.
17:02
Thank you. Thank you, CBS.
17:04
Unknown: No, that's a really
great, great question. I think,
17:06
you know, in terms of what our
team has been tracking, we have
17:09
seen these so called cheap fake
videos, they are targeting Biden
17:12
and they are targeting Trump.
However, we have seen
17:15
particularly in the last few
months, the videos targeting
17:17
Biden are getting a lot more
traction online. And in
17:20
particular, the ones that target
Biden's age. So for example,
17:23
like you had said, claiming that
he is wandering off and really
17:26
was having a conversation with
somebody these days
17:29
John C Dvorak: having a
conversation.
17:32
Adam Curry: Yes, you have
something to say.
17:35
John C Dvorak: I'm just it just
annoys me because we've all seen
17:38
this video. And we've seen the
extended version of it, because
17:41
it's posted and you can see the
whole thing, and he's just turns
17:44
around starts wandering off, and
yakking about something the
17:48
guy's trying to pack his
parachute. He's not paying any
17:51
attention to Biden, there's no
conversation involved.
17:55
Unknown: These videos are
effective, because they are
17:58
they're called to fix for a
reason. They are quick. They're
18:01
easy to publish. And oftentimes
they have big impact on people
18:04
who are just scrolling through
their phones, they watch it for
18:06
five seconds, and they move on.
Oh, like Democrat voters. Also,
18:10
what's interesting about this is
we've heard a lot about the fear
18:13
of deep fakes in this election.
And we've seen the deep fakes
18:16
haven't really shown up in the
way that maybe people were
18:18
worried about them showing up.
But these videos that are edited
18:22
in a really basic way with
technology that's been around
18:24
for a long time, are effective,
effective to the extent that the
18:28
White House is addressing them.
18:29
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. There it
is, by the way,
18:32
John C Dvorak: that's an Irish
accent. Thank you. Yeah,
18:35
Adam Curry: you're right. You're
right.
18:36
John C Dvorak: And there was one
in the last show, too, that you
18:38
said was British and she was
Irish, or he was Irish. Sorry.
18:41
Adam Curry: I apologize.
18:43
John C Dvorak: I've noticed that
the Irish are moving in. Well,
18:47
besides they're very, they all
hate Trump and they all love
18:51
Biden.
18:53
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting.
Huh? Okay. Last one last
18:59
observation. Yeah, no, it's
good. One. Last one is B hopes,
19:03
because they know their viewers
so well. They know their
19:07
viewers. Here's a question that
is important and pertinent.
19:10
Unknown: How can voters best
discern between videos that are
19:14
real, and videos that are not?
So
19:17
social media platforms,
sometimes they will attach fat
19:19
checks to these videos. So
sometimes on X, you might see
19:22
community notes or on Facebook,
you might see fat checks.
19:25
However, the reality is for the
vast majority of them, they're
19:28
not going to have anything
attached. So unfortunately, it
19:30
really is on the viewer. Number
one piece of advice I would have
19:33
is always check your sources. So
if you see something on an
19:36
account, is this a partisan
account? Is it pushing for a
19:39
particular candidate? And does
it have a history of posting
19:41
misinformation? And the second
thing, which I think is really
19:44
important is always seek another
source. So don't just take it
19:47
from one account, make sure that
you get a second source or even
19:49
a third source, and most
importantly, make sure that's a
19:51
credible source.
19:53
And CBS confirmed is one of the
most credible Rona, Karen, thank
19:56
you so much for breaking it down
with us. I appreciate it. See
20:00
Adam Curry: vs confirmed John
just in case you didn't know,
20:03
CBS confirmed as one of the most
credible ever, ever, ever, ever
20:08
very credible.
20:09
John C Dvorak: Wow. So that took
a lot of guts. Oh, they've
20:13
shameless.
20:14
Adam Curry: So, but there were
three other questions in this
20:18
press conference it got no play
even. Everyone's just showing
20:22
the the Biden video where he's,
you know, wandering off and
20:25
looking at some other dude pack
in his chute. But there were
20:28
three other instances that were
obvious that also did get some
20:35
virality. And these were asked
of jurien jurien.
20:42
John C Dvorak: Jury, that's a
new name name is Yuri.
20:46
Unknown: two instances in recent
days were leaders from President
20:49
Obama and George Maloney early,
they physically put hands on the
20:52
President to guide him and show
him. How
20:55
Adam Curry: did you see this one
where, where he was on stage
20:58
with Obama and Jimmy Kimmel,
20:59
John C Dvorak: believe me. We
were You were gone. I saw that
21:03
one was a hot hot one, because
it was like he was staggering
21:08
off the stage.
21:09
Adam Curry: Obama grabbed him by
the wrist. You know, it's like
21:13
what somebody
21:13
John C Dvorak: pointed this out
on one of the one of the hater
21:16
shows that people in dementia
get startled. When they do
21:22
they'll freeze, touch him grab,
grab their hand, or the rest of
21:26
them and they jump kind of jump
because it's like that they're
21:28
snapped out of it. And that's
exactly what happens. Obama
21:32
grabs his wrist and and Biden
snaps out of it looks over at
21:35
him. And then he was walking
slowly off the stage, carefully
21:39
off the stage, because he's
looks like he's gonna keel over.
21:43
Adam Curry: I think it's
probably time to reinstate the
21:45
term elder abuse. We haven't
talked about it
21:49
John C Dvorak: for now, the
theme, by the way that I've
21:51
noticed on the right wing shows,
every one of the shows has been
21:54
bringing up elder abuse. Really?
21:56
Adam Curry: I see I haven't seen
or heard anything. I just, it's
22:00
a natural occurrence that
interesting. Well, it's
22:02
John C Dvorak: because we
brought it up, you brought it
22:04
up, not yours. To me, I have not
brought it up. The President in
22:06
the United States is not subject
to elder abuse. He's a
22:09
president. And so criticism is
what I would call it. So
22:14
Adam Curry: does that go for
podcasters? Like when we're old
22:16
and demented, then it's not
really elder abuse. If the if
22:20
we're getting dragged on social
media,
22:23
John C Dvorak: we get blasted
anyway. Okay.
22:26
Adam Curry: Let me continue here
with the Yes. Was your reading
22:29
stage directions? Are they doing
that on
22:31
Unknown: their own? Or Is
anybody asked them to
22:33
look on the show? When we spoke
to the most recent, right,
22:37
right, and as we saw on
Saturday, the President Obama,
22:40
President Obama's office put out
a statement. So I would refer
22:45
you to that statement about what
was being accused in those by
22:50
others. And he said this did not
happen in the sense of what
22:53
people were saying, saying they
were seeing right, or what was
22:56
being falsely reported. That
they were saying, let's not
23:00
forget President Obama,
President Biden have a
23:03
relationship. They are friends.
They're like family to each
23:07
other. And I think that's what
you saw.
23:10
Adam Curry: That's funny, to
like family to each other. No, I
23:13
think I think Obama has been
pretty clear he hates Biden. I
23:17
think that's that's universally
understood. Everyone knows that.
23:21
Unknown: You saw the President
put his hand behind the on the
23:24
back of President Biden. And,
and they walked off the stage
23:30
after after taking questions, or
at an event taking questions
23:36
from Jimmy Kimmel. That is that
is what you saw. No,
23:39
Adam Curry: no, I'm pretty sure
I saw a President Obama grabbed
23:43
President Biden's wrist who was
just standing there not taking
23:48
questions from Jimmy Kimmel
who's staring into the lights.
23:53
Unknown: But I will refer you to
the President Obama's office
23:56
statement. They talked about
this. They discussed this and
23:59
they came out with it pretty,
pretty quickly. All right.
24:03
Maloney.
24:04
Adam Curry: I Maloney How about
Maloney
24:07
Unknown: don't have anything. I
don't know specifically what
24:09
happened with Maloney.
24:11
Adam Curry: But wondering the
parachutes. Oh, I mean, of
24:15
course I know Maloney. Oh, that
one? Oh, yeah. Just so many of
24:18
them to keep track of
24:19
Unknown: that was as I said, it
was a cheap, you know, cheap
24:22
fake.
24:23
Adam Curry: That was it was a
keep Jake definitely
24:25
Unknown: cheaper. It was widely
fact checked widely. But that
24:30
video was widely factcheck,
including by conservative media,
24:34
on what had what happened that
what occurred, the President
24:38
walked over to give a thumbs up
to divers who had just landed
24:42
right in front of him. And if
you run that tape a little bit
24:45
longer, you would see, you would
see what was happening, what the
24:48
President was actually doing.
And it is a cheap fake. That is
24:52
what nothing and he's totally
normal. What I'm saying is,
24:56
Adam Curry: I don't know who
asked that, but I like it. So
24:59
you're telling me Totally
normal. You can't really answer
25:03
the question nothing and he's
totally normal.
25:05
Unknown: What I'm saying is this
is a president. See,
25:08
Adam Curry: she can't say no,
it's totally normal. Listen to
25:10
this bit.
25:12
Unknown: Let's step back for a
second. Yeah. And I said this
25:15
moments ago instead of
Republicans, you know, focusing
25:18
on the President's performance
in office and what he's been
25:21
able to accomplish his actual
record, they do these cheap
25:25
fakes. They're cheap fakes. And
you're asking me about the money
25:29
or
25:30
Adam Curry: listen how she's
banging the desk to I mean, she
25:32
bangs that desk like
25:33
John C Dvorak: nobody does. She
Bangs the desk when she's trying
25:36
to get appointed about Zama does
she say the Maloney? You turn
25:43
the Brody or
25:44
Adam Curry: Maloney. I'm doing a
Maloney baby
25:46
Unknown: in office and what he's
been able to accomplish his
25:49
actual record. They do these
cheap things. They're cheap
25:53
fakes. And you're asking me
about the Maloney. You're asking
25:56
me what happened that video?
25:57
Adam Curry: It's a new dance
craze, John on Tik Tok. It's
26:00
Unknown: the Maloney the
Maloney. Video, man,
26:05
this is this. Thank
26:06
Adam Curry: you. urien I love
you. You watch. The real reason
26:10
is is like shooting fish in a
barrel.
26:13
Unknown: That video. That video
was, okay, let's talk about you
26:18
Adam Curry: know, the Juneteenth
one is the best, because this is
26:21
where everyone's dancing and
grooving. And Biden just
26:24
standing there like lunch or
whatever he was thinking. Know
26:29
what he was thinking. It was it
was sad, or it was almost over.
26:33
Listen.
26:35
Unknown: The President stood
there listening to the music,
26:38
and he didn't dance. Excuse me.
I did not know not dancing was a
26:42
mental wasn't it was a health
issue.
26:49
Adam Curry: Oops. jurien, could
you come into my office for a
26:52
moment? Yeah, we're trying to
focus on the President's age
26:56
with these cheap fakes, not his
mental health. So could you
27:00
ixnay on the mental may melt a
27:03
Unknown: into the music. And he
didn't dance. Excuse me. I did
27:06
not know not dancing was a
mental was um, it was a health
27:09
issue. That is a weird thing to
actually.
27:13
Adam Curry: And then she was she
then goes on to say health
27:15
issue. There was supposed to be
an age issue. She's dying on the
27:21
podium here. She's dying.
27:23
John C Dvorak: I thought I heard
all this, too. I didn't clip it.
27:28
But now that you mentioned that
I didn't catch that right away.
27:32
That's that's quite revealing.
Excuse
27:35
Unknown: me. I did not know not
dancing was a mental was. It was
27:39
a health issue. That is a weird
thing to actually flag when if
27:45
you if you look at the people
who around him if you look at
27:48
the expanded video of the people
who around him, they were not.
27:52
They weren't there were some
folks who were not dancing
27:54
either. And that has been fact
checked. I mean, just because
27:57
you're standing up listening to
music and not dancing. That is
28:00
not a health issue. No, it's
supposed to be age.
28:04
John C Dvorak: Did you? Did you
watch the real extended clip
28:08
where that where they're all
seated first and then they're
28:10
clapping and he was clapping
like well, I don't know what to
28:13
say. But like a white man off on
the one lap and pretty much with
28:17
the beat. And he's just kind of
randomly clapping. Did you see
28:21
this? Yes,
28:21
Adam Curry: I have seen it. It
hurt me. He's very, very pain
28:25
ready, but fatik When someone
claps on the one and in the
28:28
three instead of the two in the
four it's a real problem. It's
28:32
yeah, no, that's that's beyond
white. Yeah. And but the funny
28:38
thing is that this is literally
emperor has no clothes. That's
28:43
what this is. And for those of
you who don't know the story,
28:47
because they don't teach it in
school anymore, look it up. The
28:50
emperor has no clothes. He's
naked. No, he's not. He's got
28:53
beautiful, beautiful clothes on.
It's not meant to I mean,
28:57
health, old. No, it's nothing.
Nothing wrong. Well,
29:02
John C Dvorak: gaslighting Yes,
whatever. The The emperor has no
29:08
clothes stores gaslights. Right?
It
29:10
Adam Curry: is classic
gaslighting classic. It's just
29:13
it's like, wow, okay. I mean,
how do you go to bed at night?
29:19
And say, do you go like, Yeah, I
told them they believe it.
29:22
Seriously? Is that Is that how
that goes down? Do you think
29:27
when when jurien goes there?
29:29
John C Dvorak: I think they're
irked. Like you have to have
29:31
your Shareen or whatever her
name is that we're now calling
29:36
her? Yes. Well, I don't think
she's got the the brainpower to
29:42
be honest about it. But I would
say just the whole group around
29:45
buying they have to be just
worked with themselves and with
29:49
the situation because they know
they think Biden could do a
29:52
better job of hanging in there.
I don't know. It's hard to say I
29:57
think they're concerned but I
don't know if they lose sleep.
30:00
Over it
30:02
Adam Curry: then they might with
this level of gaslighting they
30:05
must have a plan B. I mean, you
wrote about it in the
30:08
newsletter. I guess the Plan B
is we do a switcheroo. What I've
30:11
heard was Did you write that
that Hillary could come in?
30:14
Hillary Clinton comes
30:15
John C Dvorak: in replaces
Camela newsletter for people who
30:19
took their got rid of their
subscription is very elaborate.
30:23
Yes. Hillary takes over from
camera like camera has some sort
30:27
of a health issue. Something
happens. Yeah. And Hillary is
30:30
brought in at the last minute
because people say well, it does
30:33
a number of things. One thing it
brings the women, Hillary flip
30:37
fans back into revenge revenge
30:39
Adam Curry: for a week. Duck
Duck. She's swooping around
30:46
again.
30:47
John C Dvorak: So it brings her
back into the fold brings women
30:50
back in the fold puts Hillary
and Hillary's like two years
30:52
younger than I think she's
already she's one year younger
30:55
than Trump. And so if Biden is
something happens, he has to
31:00
quit or he's 20 sheet by the
way, one thing about Hillary for
31:04
sure. She'd 25th amendment him.
Oh,
31:08
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, in a
31:09
John C Dvorak: heartbeat. No
hesitation in a heartbeat.
31:11
Sorry, Joe.
31:12
Adam Curry: You gotta go. Yeah,
exactly. So
31:15
John C Dvorak: he won't he
wouldn't serve out his term and
31:17
Hillary would take over because
the Democrats don't want Kamla
31:20
Harris to be the first female
president. Now
31:22
Adam Curry: what are what can we
do with Kamala? What do we do
31:25
about Kamla? I mean, you say
some kind of health issue. I
31:28
think it's a little too easy.
Well,
31:33
John C Dvorak: this is this. I
did not answer the question
31:36
fully in the newsletter because
I don't know either. Now. Now,
31:39
there are some rumors she wants
to run for California governor.
31:43
And I think Gavin Newsom term
will be up did course her chance
31:47
of winning. This is a one
opportunity for the Republicans
31:49
to get somebody and nobody in
California likes her, even
31:54
though they liked it or Attorney
General, but it was kind of like
31:57
just everyone's a Democrat gets
in, and maybe the machine
32:01
Adam Curry: governor, but she's
campaigning. So you know, there
32:05
has to be a reason that she
stops campaigning. You know,
32:09
she's, well,
32:10
John C Dvorak: we go we have the
we put its alert, it's an alert
32:14
for us and alert, keep an eye on
her good. Let me was on Sherry,
32:18
that miserable show that used to
be Wendy Williams got taken, Oh,
32:25
she got ousted in for some
health reason. And this woman
32:30
Sherry took over her show and
they fired all day, every day,
32:33
the whole staff always changed.
And Sherry's
32:36
Adam Curry: unfortunately,
unfortunately, I think the only
32:40
way to really make it happen for
her to save face for her then to
32:45
you know, to phase out is I
think the I think her husband
32:51
has to go so she can go into
bereavement. The guys
32:56
Expendables be honest. Yeah, I
agree. I mean, if we're just
33:00
thinking like these people do,
like, before
33:03
John C Dvorak: they get like,
these people, these people,
33:05
these people think this way, but
they have to kill the guy. They
33:09
also just making these No, no,
no, she
33:11
Adam Curry: needs to help him.
You know, she needs to be with
33:13
her man. Doug. I mean, his face
name like Doug. I mean, no
33:18
offense to dogs. But it's kind
of like a dog. Poor dog. Don't
33:24
you just see that cartoon
character dog when you think
33:26
dog?
33:27
John C Dvorak: I think that
voice that you used to have a
33:29
dog that used to be on the
street as a dog on the news
33:33
reader. That's what I think of.
33:35
Adam Curry: So in an odd way, I
think I can connect these next
33:38
two clips. First of all. So all
I'm sure I know. You've seen it.
33:44
But the news here is extinction
rebellion. First they paint
33:49
Stonehenge orange. Yeah, they
did, like, wow. And then a
33:56
John C Dvorak: lot of respect
for the environment. Well,
34:00
Adam Curry: you know, that they
they removed all those stones
34:02
back in the 70s. You know, that
they moved all that stuff out of
34:06
the way. And they completely
reset them.
34:10
John C Dvorak: What year was
that?
34:11
Adam Curry: I think it was the
70s.
34:14
John C Dvorak: Well, I visited
Stonehenge first time in 1973. I
34:18
was there that's when you know,
probably that's when they were
34:20
cows in the field. There was
nobody around you go see on the
34:24
stone. Yeah. And it was like,
Oh, that's cute. Then they turn
34:30
it then the next time I went
which was like 20 years later
34:33
was like holy Mack was all
fenced off. There's a big
34:36
parking lot people are standing
around looking at it. Oh,
34:41
Adam Curry: if you look at I've
never actually looked this up
34:43
but I have seen the pictures.
Apparently was moved. Oh 1919 58
34:50
Oh, no. And I said that's not
moved about factcheck falls.
34:54
Here, though the stones were
moved. Taken from Wales. From
34:59
where else so they're in a whole
different spot on I don't know
35:02
about that. I've seen I've seen
pictures where they're they're
35:06
you know, they have cranes I
thought that they would just
35:08
fortifying them and and not not
a huge deal. I mean, it seems
35:11
kind of weird but anyway, then
they supposedly spray paint
35:16
Taylor Swift jet which I can't
confirm that's her Did they I
35:21
think they spray painted two or
three. And they
35:24
John C Dvorak: well they showed
the video and BBC had a video of
35:26
this woman first of all she on
the fire extent high pressure
35:30
fire extinguisher fill with
orange paint. And she painted
35:36
this. She did two jets. She ran
from one to the other. It took
35:40
her about, I'd say five to 10
seconds in time to paint the
35:45
entire side of the jet with this
fire extinguisher. I mean it
35:48
just spraying it out like
there's no tomorrow. And then
35:52
that was it. It was a very short
clip somebody who I guess one of
35:55
their her cohorts made the
movie. Yeah. The video, but it
35:59
was pretty amazing. It was
pretty, pretty, pretty easy. It
36:03
was impressive.
36:05
Adam Curry: Yeah. Let me tell
you, if that happens to your
36:08
playing, you're grounded. You're
not taken off. The paint is very
36:12
important on aircraft. Can't
just you can't just spray paint
36:18
and say, Oh, I'm good to go.
They have to they have to. That
36:21
has to be worked. But it didn't
that I don't know if it's her
36:24
jet. I don't know. I think she
does know, we know she owns one
36:28
because she leases it out. But I
didn't see anything that looked
36:31
like a intercontinental jet. So
I'm not sure if you know some
36:36
sap, you know, some sap with a
Jif G five. Okay, some sap gets
36:40
his airplane spray painted
because Taylor Swift is over in
36:43
Europe. Kind of sucks. But an
old favorite came back in the
36:49
news here, because she's now on
tour. So it's part promotion,
36:53
but I've never heard them go so
in depth into this particular
36:57
phenomenon, which is the
transient mind you transient
37:02
global amnesia of Taylor Swift.
Do you remember we talked about
37:07
this month and maybe a year ago,
37:09
John C Dvorak: I forgot.
37:11
Unknown: Now imagine paying
hundreds of euros to see your
37:14
favorite artist good line, by
the way in concert, only to get
37:18
home and realize you can't
actually remember their
37:20
performance. It might sound
crazy, or at least quite
37:24
unusual. But since the start of
Taylor Swift's talk that is
37:28
precisely what some fans say has
been happening to them is a
37:32
phenomenon called transient
global amnesia. And tell us a
37:36
bit about it. Our science editor
Julia sigue is with me in the
37:39
studio Julia festival. What are
we talking about here?
37:41
Hi, Nadia. So indeed, it did
happen to French fans, but also
37:45
fans in the in the United States
and tickets there are 1000s of
37:48
euros. But they're called Swift.
He's right there, the Taylor
37:51
Swift Fans, and they all
reported not being some of them
37:53
reported not being able to
recall Taylor Swift performance
37:56
during the heiress tour. Now
some don't remember the color of
37:59
her outfits or choreographies.
But for others, it's a total
38:02
blackout. They don't remember
some entire portions of her
38:04
show, but they always vividly
remember whatever happened
38:07
before the show, or after the
show. Now, the phenomenon was so
38:10
widespread that a psychiatrist
from New Jersey decided to
38:14
investigate these fan
testimonies. And she even
38:16
published a research paper and
she believes it is the syndrome
38:19
called transient global amnesia,
which is characterized by a
38:23
temporary loss of memory. So
it's actually due to an overload
38:27
of excitement and stress. So it
overwhelms the brain, which
38:31
makes it unable to encode
memories, if you will. So are
38:36
our memories extremely sensitive
to stress, let it be positive
38:40
emotions, but also negative
emotions. If you're overwhelmed
38:42
by negative emotions, you're
more inclined to develop Post
38:45
Traumatic Stress Disorder. But
if you're overwhelmed by
38:47
positive emotions, then you
you're more inclined to develop
38:51
somewhat of an this amnesia. So
38:54
Adam Curry: our old friend the
amygdala is busy involved in
38:58
John C Dvorak: a second. Isn't
this the same phenomenon that
39:00
critics would say it was a it
was a forgettable performance?
39:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, how I like it.
The no agenda take is always
39:10
just a little different,
everybody. Now
39:12
Unknown: it's very similar to
what you may feel, the sensation
39:16
that you have when you're having
a lot of fun that time is flying
39:18
by. That's exactly what the
phenomenon is all about. Now,
39:21
it's related more specifically
to an overreaction of the
39:24
amygdala in the brain. So when
your body faces stress, what it
39:28
does is your liver releases
glucose into the bloodstream and
39:31
into the muscles, the muscles
then send a signal to the brain.
39:35
And the amygdala is then going
to release a neurotransmitter
39:39
called neuro adrenaline. If it
if Adrenochrome baby, there's
39:43
just a little bit of it, it
helps encode the memories, but
39:45
if there's too much, it's
counterproductive. And you
39:48
suffer a memory loss.
39:49
This is such an interesting
story. And look, is this only
39:52
happening to Taylor Swift Fan?
Yeah,
39:55
Adam Curry: this is the
important thing because I mean,
39:58
I've been to a lot of concerts
of I have been to some sports
40:01
ball events I've been I've been
around now tell me if you've
40:04
ever had any of this happened
during any of these other places
40:08
where it apparently just can
happen
40:10
Unknown: to Taylor Swift Fan no
it can actually happen for other
40:13
events sports events if you're
you know, you're a sports fan
40:16
you can actually you're so
overwhelmed by someone's victory
40:20
for instance, it can happen
during a wedding a graduation
40:22
ceremony. Well,
40:24
Adam Curry: no, no, all I
remember from weddings is this
40:27
thing over.
40:29
John C Dvorak: No, not none of
this. I've, I've been to a lot
40:33
of things to Jimi Hendrix six
times. Oh, I've been seeing Dr.
40:38
Bento games where there's a
clinch a clinching game, the
40:43
warriors, for example. So I've
been to the World Series with
40:47
the a's and the Giants. I've
seen a lot of these high end
40:51
events. I've gotten. I went to a
Super Bowl. I remember all of
40:55
these things. I
40:57
Adam Curry: have known you for
17 years almost. Well, I've
41:00
known you for longer, but we've
been doing the show for 17
41:03
years. I can't I can't recall it
might be transient global
41:08
amnesia. But I cannot recall you
ever telling me that you went to
41:12
see Jimi Hendrix six times?
41:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have said
it a couple of times. Wow. I saw
41:19
Jimi Hendrix six times I can't
even name the fact I've
41:22
remembered so well, I can tell
you every venue. The last time I
41:25
saw him was at the Berkeley
community theater where he
41:28
unrolled his national anthem,
with uh, with with speakers all
41:33
across the stage. And he had his
various you know, he invented
41:37
the Wawa pedal supposedly, and
he had to see stomped on some
41:40
pedal and his sound would go rap
rap rap back and forth across a
41:45
very large stage. And he was
just a terrific performer.
41:50
Adam Curry: Are You Experienced?
So
41:51
John C Dvorak: I, the one of the
times, I saw Jimi Hendrix, he
41:53
was so drunk that I actually
left I was dating somebody and
41:59
we it was so bad that I left I
actually walked out of a Jimi
42:02
Hendrix concert did
42:03
Adam Curry: you leave your date
behind?
42:06
John C Dvorak: No, she came with
me.
42:09
Adam Curry: Wow, things to do.
This is a I'm always happy to
42:13
hear something I didn't know
about you guys continue.
42:16
Unknown: Whenever there's too
much anticipation, excitement,
42:18
pressure, emotion, you can go
through that amnesia now more
42:21
specifically, we're seeing it
with concerts. Why? Because
42:24
they've changed so much in the
last few years. As you can see
42:27
here, you have strobe lights,
every two seconds there's a
42:30
surprise and explosion a you
know even a costume changes and
42:35
it's perhaps almost too much for
our brains. Yes, very similar to
42:38
what we see with young kids when
they're watching video games or
42:42
cartoons and it's going too
fast. Well, that's when the
42:45
attention actually goes down and
you can't encode the memory
42:48
anymore.
42:49
Adam Curry: This is the true
swift up there mind controlling
42:52
your children. There's messages
flashing everywhere. Their
42:57
amygdala freaks out, they can't
remember anything and meanwhile,
43:00
vote Democrat or something like
that. Something's going on.
43:05
Something like that. Democrat
and we need boots on the ground.
43:12
Where am I? Where am I Swifties
at? I need to know what is
43:15
flashing everywhere. What are
the what is the messaging?
43:18
Vaccines are good. We need to
know what is being done there
43:22
besides the witch because there
is that whole witchcraft thing.
43:27
You notice the kids don't come
off or the out of the stadium
43:29
going wow, the witchcraft stuff
was great. deeply embedded myths
43:36
concerning very concerning. I
just read the Donald Sutherland
43:42
passed away. Oh, he did. Yeah.
Now, today,
43:48
John C Dvorak: it's enjoyable
actor.
43:49
Adam Curry: Yes. Happy Eid.
Everybody. Do I pronounce it
43:52
Eid? Eid.
43:55
John C Dvorak: I think it's
pronounced Eid bits. Big
43:58
Adam Curry: deal over here in
Muslim Holland Eid.
44:02
John C Dvorak: Every night he
used to get a donation from here
44:06
on Amazon.
44:07
Adam Curry: Or maybe he's just
like this. All right. But happy
44:11
eats are on a must have Dogpatch
in lower Slavia and all of our
44:14
other Muslim friends. So the big
the big thing here is the
44:19
inhumane butchering of the lambs
and the goats and heavies. They
44:24
have the man on the street, they
go up to these butcheries and
44:28
there's a whole bunch of dudes
hanging around with beards. And
44:31
then one guy comes out he's got
all blood splatters over his
44:34
face. It's great. Hey, the Jews
do that too. On their own
44:37
special day. We do it on our
day. We just do it differently.
44:40
Meanwhile, there's not one swarm
of places open to get us warmer
44:44
because everybody's celebrating
Eid. And which was kind of I
44:50
think
44:50
John C Dvorak: you can put it
off.
44:52
Adam Curry: Put what off?
Getting
44:55
John C Dvorak: a swarm. Now
44:56
Adam Curry: the whole this this
this thing goes on forever. And
44:59
that's Stop and with the
celebration I was gonna get a
45:02
swarm I was taxi Eric You
remember taxi Eric Right? Oh
45:06
John C Dvorak: yeah he almost
got me killed yeah that's what I
45:08
keep telling
45:10
Adam Curry: John all John
remembers about us You almost
45:12
killed him so he drove me to
Christina Christina's house and
45:19
we're driving through the city
and you know if you really want
45:22
to know what's going on with the
temperature of the nation you
45:24
got to talk to the guys on the
street the cab drivers they know
45:27
what's happening and he and
he'll be looking at another
45:30
Range Rover Ukrainian looking at
Bentley Ukrainian came through.
45:36
It's true that there's high end
high end vehicles all with
45:43
Ukrainian license plates and
people are mad now. Like Ben
45:47
Yeah, well
45:47
John C Dvorak: there's all those
cars are bought by him with
45:49
American taxpayer money. Yeah, I
45:51
Adam Curry: don't know about
that. But I could be but what
45:54
they're mad about is that you
know, they're getting free
45:57
housing they're getting a
stipend every single day. Do
46:00
whatever they want to do and
they've got the Range Rover and
46:03
the parking on the on the
sidewalk. Don't even get a
46:06
ticket. It's it's, it's people.
There's no let me put it this
46:13
way. No Ukrainian flags flying
around everywhere. You know, in
46:18
Europe is so concerned with
Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine,
46:23
everyone's like crazy.
Everyone's like, get rid of this
46:26
stuff. We don't like it. Yeah.
Yeah. No bet. It's just a
46:31
general feeling everywhere.
Everybody is so sick and tired.
46:34
We'll get
46:35
John C Dvorak: fed up. But what
do they do about it? Nothing.
46:38
Well, that's part
46:39
Adam Curry: of why they voted
for hate builders, of course.
46:42
Because now they're like, well,
I'll vote for that guy. He'll
46:44
fix
46:44
John C Dvorak: it. He'll fixes
anything. That's
46:47
Adam Curry: the point. The big
story here is Margarita. He's
46:51
the about him. Well, He is the
former Dutch Prime Minister, the
46:54
guy who got to your buddy No, I
don't know him. I know you met
47:01
him. Now. I know the climate
Pope Timmermans and the other
47:05
guy Balkan out. He's the guy
before Margarita, the guy with a
47:09
little with a little, you know,
student glasses. Now so drifta
47:13
is the is the the Nimrod the
what do you call? The Knud?
47:19
Nick, he's the Nadine and Nick,
Nick. Nick, Nick, who's been
47:23
Prime Minister for eight years,
you know, used to be in HR at
47:29
mostly like Unilever I think he
was literally an HR lady at
47:33
Unilever. And then all sudden he
was Prime Minister. Okay, sure.
47:38
And you know, he's no one no one
really liked him at all. Very,
47:42
very just wishy washy. He's just
a nothing burger has said that.
47:49
But he is he said it. I know.
He's just a wishy washy, dude.
47:53
So now that Victor milquetoast
is Oh, there you go. So he wrote
47:58
a letter to Viktor Orban because
he's just wait, he's been
48:00
waiting in the wings to replace
Ian Stoltenberg the the NATO
48:04
guy, or as they say, the Navo
guy. And if one country one of
48:12
the European Union member states
says Now I don't want him to be
48:15
that, or one of them and one of
the NATO members I'm sorry. If
48:18
they say no, we don't want that
guy then you know, it's off the
48:21
table until everybody agrees.
And Ruth wrote a personal letter
48:26
to Viktor Orban and said, Okay,
that was your agreement because
48:30
you remember he he buckled on
the Ukraine money. He said, as
48:34
per your agreement, I guarantee
you here in writing the letters
48:37
published everywhere was
guaranteed in writing that you
48:41
you hungry will not have to put
in any people or money for
48:46
Ukraine. And so I said, Okay,
are you good to go then? As long
48:50
as my people aren't gonna have
to go fight your stupid war and
48:53
you can't take our money. So now
all that's left is Romania. I
49:00
think it's Romania Romania in
NATO. It had to look I think so.
49:06
Yeah, I think it's partly our
probably our So what So and that
49:12
kind of just shows you I think
everyone here knows like, that
49:15
guy is going to be in charge of
NATO. Well, that must be a scam.
49:19
Because that guy's nude Nick. I
gotta teach the ducks that word.
49:23
He's a nude Nick.
49:25
John C Dvorak: It's a good term.
49:28
Adam Curry: So let's go to
Richard angle to get the true
49:33
the True Lies because of course
spook. Let's find out about the
49:37
latest in the Ukraine aid. How's
that working out for everybody?
49:40
You know, we sent some more
money over 65 billion then we
49:43
took 50 billion from the
Russians and or we lent it with
49:47
the Russian the Russian money as
our security deposit. And let's
49:52
see how that's working out.
49:53
Unknown: Jackson. Thank you. So
night Russian President Putin is
49:56
set to visit North Korea meet
Kim Jong Un's growing support
49:59
for Russia. his war in Ukraine.
Meanwhile, Ukrainian commanders
50:03
hope American aid will push back
Russia's momentum. Richard Engel
50:08
is there we have to warn you
some images in this report are
50:11
disturbing,
50:12
John C Dvorak: though no.
50:14
Unknown: Abrams talks today
defend Ukraine's eastern front
50:17
line near the Russian border.
resupplies of American weapons
50:21
are flowing again. And Ukrainian
troops tell us they're arriving
50:26
just in the nick of time.
resupplies of American weapons,
50:29
including these tanks are now
finally after long delays making
50:34
their way to the frontlines, and
it's making a difference.
50:37
Ukrainian troops have already
been able to slow down a major
50:41
Russian offensive. Ukraine is
flush at the moment $60 billion
50:46
in aid from Congress 50 billion
more from interest on frozen
50:50
Russian funds and did a
conference on peace in
50:54
Switzerland over the weekend,
the United States was among 80
50:57
nations, pledging support for
Ukraine's territorial integrity.
51:02
But a tank commander here tells
us he's worried about pressure
51:05
on Ukraine to make a deal with
Russia.
51:08
Everyone in the West should
understand that once we see more
51:12
territory to Russia, it won't
stop.
51:15
Adam Curry: I love peace, the
peace conference, that's the one
51:17
thing no one ever talks about.
Over here. It's never about
51:20
peace. Now. It's just like more
weapons. More weapons got to
51:24
stop. Russia Can't we can have
peace negotiations, we can talk
51:28
about peace. It's not
profitable.
51:30
Unknown: And Ukrainians have a
more immediate problem. A
51:32
Russian technological
innovation, so called Glide
51:36
bombs. This shopping center was
hit by just two
51:39
Adam Curry: eyeballs. Yeah,
yeah, you identified those
51:41
firsts
51:42
Unknown: and the impact was
devastating. Russia has vast
51:46
quantities of old fashioned
style bombs, and by attaching
51:50
wings and a basic guidance
system to them. Russia has not
51:53
only managed to extend their
range, but turn them into
51:56
precision weapons that Ukraine
has been struggling to deal
51:59
with. Surveillance video
captured the moment of the
52:03
attack. Officials say 19
Ukrainians were killed,
52:08
including two children.
President Solinsky says Russia
52:11
is now firing 3000 glide bombs
among commanders tell us fire
52:17
they don't have an effective way
to stop them. seeking more
52:20
weapons for his war here in
Ukraine. Vladimir Putin tomorrow
52:23
travels to North Korea, which US
officials say has been providing
52:28
Russia with large quantities of
artillery shells.
52:31
Adam Curry: That's the thing
that um you don't
52:34
John C Dvorak: fire him you drop
them? Yes.
52:36
Adam Curry: I'm skeptical about
this North Korea supplying their
52:40
their shells. Does that make it
does that sound right to you?
52:44
No,
52:45
John C Dvorak: it doesn't sound
right to me, but they could be
52:47
as part of I don't know what I
have the clip on North Korea,
52:51
Putin North Korea clip Putin in
North Korea and TD 134 clip is
52:56
maybe shed some light
52:58
Unknown: as Russian President
Vladimir Putin is wrapping up
53:00
his trip to North Korea meeting
with Kim Jong Hoon. They're
53:04
pledging to strengthen their
ties. They've signed a new
53:07
security agreement promising to
help each other if either is
53:10
attacked.
53:11
The leaders of Russia and North
Korea have signed a new security
53:14
agreement promising to come to
each other's aid if they are
53:17
ever attacked. Now the details
of this agreement are still
53:19
unclear. They're calling it a
comprehensive strategic
53:22
partnership agreement. They said
they're aiming to strengthen
53:25
their military and economic
cooperation. This comes amid
53:28
Western sanctions on the two
countries the deal is drawing
53:31
international attention. The US
and its allies are concerned
53:34
over weapons and ammunition that
North Korea provides to Russia.
53:38
In exchange for economic
assistance. Russia's economy and
53:41
military are mostly reliant on
the Chinese Communist Party, and
53:44
this was reiterated on Tuesday
by NATO Secretary General Jens
53:48
Stoltenberg and Secretary of
State Antony Blinken through his
53:51
visits to North Korea
demonstrates and confirms
53:54
they're very close alignment
between Russia and all
53:58
authoritarian states like North
Korea, but also China and Iran.
54:04
If China in particular, which
professes to have a strong
54:06
interest in ending the war, it
really means that it will stop
54:10
fueling the war machine and will
continue to do everything we can
54:14
to cut off the support that
countries like Iran and North
54:17
Korea are providing.
54:18
This marks Putin's first visit
to North Korea in 24 years after
54:22
North Korea Putin is visiting
Vietnam's capital meeting with
54:25
its leaders. As Russia is facing
growing international isolation.
54:29
It's seeking the assistance of
other authoritarian countries.
54:33
Adam Curry: Okay. So a couple
things. First of all, I can't
54:36
wait until Margaret to get to
him because he'll be much more
54:38
fun to make fun of with his
Dutch accent. When he's talking
54:42
like this, you know, I'm looking
forward to that. Second, so he's
54:47
going to Vietnam also a
competitor to China, North
54:51
Korea. Interesting choice. How
about this? Perhaps Putin is
54:57
thinking, you know, I've got to
draw this out. because it looks
55:01
like Trump might get in. I can
deal with Trump we can we can
55:04
manage this situation. We can
figure out Jay Paul, for all I
55:08
know, they're already talking, I
don't know. How Wouldn't it be
55:12
awesome. And I use that word,
specifically to have the summit
55:19
between Trump and Putin in North
Korea.
55:25
John C Dvorak: Or Vietnam for
that.
55:26
Adam Curry: But North because
when Trump went to you know, he
55:29
stepped over the stepped
55:30
John C Dvorak: foot in North
Korea, unlike anyone else, and
55:33
then
55:33
Adam Curry: that would that
would put North Korea in a whole
55:36
different light. We could get
them out of you know, like, hey,
55:39
these guys actually helped
something. I don't know what I
55:43
have a feeling there's a reason
for this. It's not just for some
55:47
supply chain. Where's the supply
chain of weaponry? Do we have
55:51
trained eyes?
55:53
John C Dvorak: Putin does the
need to go there. If they're
55:54
buying shells from North Korea,
they're buying shells from so
55:57
what economic assistance is they
be given the hard cash and say
56:02
give us some shells and there we
go. We don't need to visit.
56:05
Adam Curry: It's just Hey, Kim.
Samia, you're right. Venmo
56:08
windows. Yeah,
56:09
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. Yeah. There's
56:11
some other reason why else would
he be going there? He's not
56:15
going there to confirm a shell
deal.
56:18
Adam Curry: Let me check the
shells man. Exactly. Madison
56:24
there
56:25
John C Dvorak: he may be
planning something in advance
56:27
and Trump may be involved now
56:28
Adam Curry: at the same time the
danger is that the nut jobs who
56:32
are running the show over there
in in Ukraine, Ukraine and NATO
56:39
and they're probably going to
try and hold we got it before
56:41
Trump comes in we got to do what
we can do. So I'm a little
56:44
concerned about that too.
56:48
John C Dvorak: Because they
could do this because because of
56:50
gravy trains over once Trump
gets in Yeah,
56:54
Adam Curry: because you know a
cat who's driven into the corner
56:57
can make strange jumps This is a
Dutch ism
57:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Jade again
and cotton
57:06
Adam Curry: had now cadre from
Mark routers promo so if you if
57:10
you corner a cat it can make
weird jumps. Yeah, cats do
57:18
kitten cat jumps. Yes. But the
war machine I mean, they've got
57:23
plenty to work on because just
in case we can't keep that
57:27
Ukraine thing going. I think we
should add Lebanon to the
57:31
problem. This footage
57:32
Unknown: released by the Israeli
army aims to show its striking a
57:35
base operated by Hezbollah and
Lebanon. The militant group says
57:39
at least three of its fighters
were killed in the attack, as
57:42
footage from the ground showed
smoke billowing into the air,
57:46
about 30 kilometers from the
border. on the Israeli side of
57:49
the border air defenses shot
down rockets launched by
57:52
Hezbollah Wednesday and apparent
retaliation for that strike.
57:56
This has Israel's Army issued a
statement saying it was ready
57:59
for a full blown conflict with
the militant group. As
58:02
part of the situational
assessment. Operational plans
58:05
for an offensive in Lebanon were
approved and validated, and
58:09
decisions were taken on the
continuation of increasing the
58:12
readiness of troops in the
field.
58:14
That announcement followed the
release of drone footage that
58:16
Israel said was taken by
Hezbollah showing possible
58:20
targets in several Israeli
cities, and comments from
58:23
Israel's foreign minister who
vowed and an all out war
58:26
Hezbollah will be destroyed and
Lebanon severely beaten close
58:31
ability, funded by promising the
same for Israel's.
58:36
Israel knows that no place will
be saved from our missiles and
58:39
our drones and our strikes and
not indiscriminate. Israel knows
58:42
that we have a list of targets.
And we have the ability to reach
58:45
these targets. And we will shake
the foundations of Israel
58:48
since the October 7 attacks by
Hamas and Israel. Hezbollah has
58:51
launched ongoing attacks in
northern Israel, killing at
58:54
least 16 soldiers and 11
civilians. Israeli strikes and
58:59
Lebanon during the same period
have killed more than 400
59:01
people, most of whom were
Hezbollah fighters. But dozens
59:05
of civilians have also been
killed. I mean,
59:08
Adam Curry: if you're Hezbollah
What are you thinking? Like this
59:13
is a couple
59:14
John C Dvorak: of clips on this
too. I think there's some things
59:17
you know, there's a today's
news, for example, talks a lot
59:20
about how the army the IDF is
going well you know, we can do
59:25
we're not gonna be able to kill
all these Hamas guys. And I
59:28
think Netanyahu is nuts. And
they're getting into a lot of
59:31
beef. And meanwhile, there's
Hezbollah things been cranked up
59:34
and I have two clips on that.
One, we'll see Hezbollah action
59:38
one. This
59:40
Unknown: is in di D lawmakers
from the American Israel Public
59:44
Affairs Committee are in the
Middle East on Wednesday night,
59:46
Israeli President Isaac Herzog
told them it's crucial that the
59:50
US and Israel maintain strong
ties watch that we are fighting
59:55
here the Battle of the free
world against the Empire. Evil.
1:00:00
That's what we're doing today.
The visit comes as a high level
1:00:04
meeting between Israel and the
US has reportedly been
1:00:07
cancelled. That's according to
Axios and CNN citing to US
1:00:11
officials. This comes after
Prime Minister Benjamin
1:00:13
Netanyahu said this on Tuesdays,
the administration has been
1:00:18
withholding weapons and
ammunition students. Their
1:00:21
reports an envoy for President
Biden later told Netanyahu that
1:00:25
the accusations are inaccurate
and out of line. On Wednesday,
1:00:29
the Israeli government gave this
update ammunition
1:00:32
and weapons that the Prime
Minister referred to are in the
1:00:36
process of being delivered to
Israel. This
1:00:39
comes as tensions at the Israel
Lebanon border keep rising.
1:00:42
Hezbollah says Israeli strikes
killed four of its fighters on
1:00:46
Wednesday. Israel meanwhile,
says the Iran backed group fire
1:00:50
15 rockets from southern Lebanon
towards a city in northern
1:00:53
Israel. Most of that city has
now been abandoned living right
1:00:57
now.
1:00:58
It's very sad to see these
entity most of the time the head
1:01:02
of Hezbollah said no place in
Israel will be safe from attacks
1:01:05
if a bigger conflict breaks out.
He also threatened other
1:01:09
countries in the Mediterranean.
In response, Israel is already
1:01:12
strengthening its military
readiness in the north, saying
1:01:15
they're getting ready for any
possibility.
1:01:19
We have an obligation to change
the situation in the North and
1:01:22
return the citizens safely to
their homes
1:01:25
Adam Curry: and BB is becoming a
problem because like, hey, h
1:01:29
should be quiet about the
weapons. If it's not good for
1:01:33
Joe cut problems enough.
1:01:36
John C Dvorak: We'll talk about
I don't think he likes Joe. No,
1:01:39
of
1:01:39
Adam Curry: course he doesn't
because they're not helping him
1:01:41
out anymore.
1:01:44
John C Dvorak: And what was the
second part of this Hezbollah
1:01:46
clip now
1:01:46
Unknown: and lastly, the United
Nations Human Rights Office says
1:01:49
Israel may have violated the
laws of war by failing to
1:01:53
distinguish between civilians
and fighters in Gaza.
1:01:56
Unlawful targeting, when
committed as part of a
1:02:00
widespread or systematic attack
against a civilian population
1:02:05
may also implicate the
commission of crimes against
1:02:10
humanity.
1:02:11
The UN Office came to that
conclusion by assessing six
1:02:14
Israeli attacks that caused a
high number of casualties.
1:02:18
Israel called the analysis
flood.
1:02:21
Adam Curry: Just I don't
understand, I keep hearing
1:02:24
Thomas Massie in the back of my
mind God, these guys they want
1:02:28
to take it all to Iran. Is this
just the next step? And what is
1:02:33
Hezbollah thinking? Oh, this is
a good idea to choose from
1:02:37
rockets into Haifa. Yeah, that
makes sense. Israel's going to
1:02:42
go into Lebanon it's obvious
that's the next step and then
1:02:45
what
1:02:47
John C Dvorak: then what then we
have the Democratic National
1:02:50
Convention
1:02:52
Adam Curry: right right on time.
1:02:55
John C Dvorak: I don't know
Yeah, it's obvious to me too. I
1:02:58
agree that these they're gonna
they're gonna shift focus
1:03:01
because this Gaza thing is done
the best they can do and
1:03:05
Netanyahu is under a lot of
pressure but if we created a
1:03:08
really kind of a nasty nasty
your situation with Hezbollah,
1:03:13
they're bigger they're stronger
they got more stuff Yeah, that's
1:03:16
exactly what's gonna they're
gonna go to Lebanon on the on
1:03:19
the west Clarke seven is one of
the heroes taken over years and
1:03:25
years ago we never did we kind
of
1:03:26
Adam Curry: just kind of rub
alized and financially mobilized
1:03:29
for sure. I mean, the places
there's a mess and then and then
1:03:34
all of a sudden the Houthi start
acting up again and I don't know
1:03:37
about you but I see video is
like is that of the trying to
1:03:42
make it look like some kind of
submarine targeted when a sub
1:03:46
ship and then blows up the back
part or there's the almost
1:03:51
honestly it looks like a fake
and then you see another shot
1:03:54
and it blows up the middle
section. But you but you don't
1:04:00
neither shot Do you see. So in
the in the in the mid in the mid
1:04:04
ship shot? The back is still
fine. But then, when they hit
1:04:08
the back of the ship, the mid
ship is fine. So it's like make
1:04:14
up your mind. What did we blow
up here?
1:04:16
John C Dvorak: Well, I know that
they have one clip from Russia.
1:04:19
That is the weirdest clip I have
on this list, which is they
1:04:23
claim to have sunk the
Eisenhower guys and yeah, the
1:04:28
USS the giant aircraft carrier.
1:04:32
Adam Curry: Okay, we
1:04:32
John C Dvorak: have any here's a
report on it, USS I like this
1:04:36
guy who
1:04:36
Unknown: these claim to have hit
or even sunk the USS Dwight D.
1:04:40
Eisenhower in the Red Sea. Now
Captain Christopher Shouta. Hill
1:04:44
is using his social media
profile to show his crew remains
1:04:47
ready for combat.
1:04:48
I think most of the false claims
that have occurred about us, you
1:04:53
know, for instance, saying that
we've been sunk I think it's
1:04:55
been about two or three times.
In the past six months we've
1:04:58
allegedly been sunk. which we
have not been is almost comical
1:05:03
at this point right. Hill also
1:05:05
wants to show the morale of the
nearly 5000 personnel aboard the
1:05:09
Eisenhower remains high. He says
the nuclear power chip will
1:05:13
continue with the traditions
despite Houthi attacks and
1:05:15
misinformation.
1:05:17
So we're going to celebrate Taco
Tuesdays because it's my
1:05:19
absolute favorite day of the
week. That will never end You
1:05:24
know, I
1:05:24
Adam Curry: will show videos of
our Hey, okay. It used to be
1:05:30
we're going to have a cookout
we're going to have hot dogs and
1:05:32
hamburgers. Now we're at Taco
Tuesdays or Thursdays is weird
1:05:36
Unknown: powered ship will
continue with its traditions
1:05:38
despite Houthi attacks and
misinformation. So
1:05:41
we're going to celebrate Taco
Tuesdays because it's my
1:05:44
absolute favorite day of the
week. That will never end You
1:05:48
know, I will show videos of our
ships facility dog because he
1:05:52
makes a difference here. People
like having him around. He
1:05:55
improves moods. So that if you
call that information warfare
1:06:00
campaign campaign, you can
Captain
1:06:02
David row commands the
destroyers escorting the
1:06:04
Eisenhower, he says his crew
works diligently to address the
1:06:08
needs of the mission now,
1:06:10
using the appropriate effect
weapon weapons system on the
1:06:15
appropriate threat to preserve
magazine depth to have more
1:06:18
missiles to not is a certainly
germane tactical question that
1:06:23
my captains are constantly
reviewing. Okay,
1:06:26
Adam Curry: so we have no real
goes on I stopped it has no real
1:06:29
answer if he's if he's been sunk
or not. Three times. I mean, he
1:06:33
could still have Taco Tuesdays.
1:06:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's gonna
have forever on the shore. This
1:06:41
is costing us a fortune. Yeah.
That that whole group, that
1:06:46
group that carrier group, yeah,
if you see pictures of it, it's
1:06:50
it's the Eisenhower wood must be
50 ships surrounding it. Yeah.
1:06:55
This is not a cheap venture. And
it's the taxpayers were picking
1:07:01
this up and what what good is it
do I do have a couple more
1:07:04
Houthi analysis clips, which
really condemned the whole
1:07:07
thing, because it's costing us a
million dollars to shoot down a
1:07:12
$1,000 piece of crap every so
often. A
1:07:17
Unknown: cargo ship is believed
to have sunk in the Red Sea
1:07:20
after being attacked by Houthi
terrorists. Earlier we spoke
1:07:24
with a Justin Logan, Director of
defense and foreign policy
1:07:27
studies at Cato Institute about
the US approach to the Houthi
1:07:30
attacks. Now to begin reports,
note of escalation in the Red
1:07:35
Sea by the Houthis. This is
after a bulk ship carrier sank
1:07:39
along with reports of a Remainer
onboard being killed. Now this
1:07:43
does come after weekend attacks
on two ships as well as an
1:07:46
American destroyer. How do you
read these latest moves,
1:07:50
especially when it comes to war
in the region and fears of this
1:07:54
escalation?
1:07:56
Well, I think the
administration's Middle East
1:07:58
policy has really gone from bad
to worse. I mean, they
1:08:01
infamously said that before the
10, seven attacks, the Middle
1:08:04
East hadn't been as quiet as it
had, as it was then in decades
1:08:08
than the 10. Seven attacks
happened. We built this magical
1:08:12
mystery pier, which is now
disintegrated off the coast of
1:08:15
Israel. And then there's this
month long war with the Houthis,
1:08:19
which was just
1:08:20
Adam Curry: what did he call it?
The Magical Mystery pier? Is
1:08:22
that what he called it?
1:08:24
Unknown: Here, which is that's
pretty funny. Then in decades,
1:08:27
than the 10 seven attacks
happened. We built this magical
1:08:30
mystery pier, which is now
disintegrated off the coast of
1:08:34
Israel. And then there's this
month's long war with the
1:08:37
Houthis which was just revealed
both that we've spent over a
1:08:40
billion dollars fighting them
and that they are making
1:08:45
progress. As you mentioned, they
have sunk a second vessel
1:08:47
potentially killed one Filipino
mariner. So this thing has
1:08:51
really gone from bad to worse.
And you know, I anybody who's
1:08:54
had their hands on this Middle
East policy should really hide
1:08:56
their head in a bag because it's
been just an absolute disgrace
1:08:59
from pillar to post.
1:09:00
Adam Curry: You really need to
look at that that video of the
1:09:02
so called sinking of that ship
is bullcrap. I mean, where's
1:09:06
that? Where's where's the rescue
or where there's no video of
1:09:10
anything except there's a little
little crosshairs and then you
1:09:14
see an explosion it totally what
is that a
1:09:16
John C Dvorak: Filipino ship?
1:09:18
Adam Curry: I think so. It's
very unclear, because why do you
1:09:22
want a reporting? Let's just say
to have the
1:09:25
John C Dvorak: whole thing is a
disaster in terms of like in
1:09:29
this next he mentioned this
along the way, which is that
1:09:33
we're protecting we're not doing
it this is not protecting
1:09:36
anything that's got to do
anything to do with us.
1:09:39
Adam Curry: Well, there's no
there's one thing that if the if
1:09:44
the Iranians who these whoever
whoever flavor of the day, if
1:09:48
they sink a ship in the Straits
of Hormuz then is blocked, you
1:09:54
know, there's that little narrow
bit
1:09:56
John C Dvorak: Yes, right. This
was this was the storyline of
1:09:59
the of the one season episode of
Rubicon, I
1:10:03
Adam Curry: don't think I don't
think it was in the Strait of
1:10:05
Hormuz that I thought it was it
1:10:06
John C Dvorak: was right in the
middle of the Strait of Hormuz.
1:10:08
I tried to well, but regardless,
okay is it's it's it's the
1:10:13
Adam Curry: idea is that it's a
choke point and that that would
1:10:16
severely hamper international
shipping of energy. And you
1:10:21
know, you could just do that and
blame it on Iran. Here we go.
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: People are crazy.
So let's just play part two of
1:10:30
this
1:10:30
Unknown: expanding on the
Houthis apart reports. Note that
1:10:33
the Navy faces its most intense
maritime fighting since World
1:10:36
War Two, with near daily attacks
car targeting commercial
1:10:40
vessels, as well as warships.
How have the Houthis tied down
1:10:45
the US Navy in the Red Sea?
Well, it's
1:10:47
really strategic malpractice on
the part of the United States,
1:10:50
the Houthis are doing what
they've been doing for years and
1:10:53
indeed decades, which is what
military people refer to as
1:10:56
shoot and scoot. Right, you have
very light munitions, you're
1:10:59
very mobile, and the minute you
launched, you get out of there.
1:11:03
And so there are limited ability
to retaliate. Moreover, the
1:11:06
technologies that the United
States are using are many orders
1:11:10
of magnitude more expensive than
what the Houthis are using. If
1:11:14
you look at the cost that we
spend to shoot down one Houthi
1:11:18
missile, which is not
particularly accurate, you're
1:11:21
talking about in the
neighborhood of a million
1:11:23
dollars to destroy 2000 or 5000.
At most dollars worth of
1:11:27
technology. This is a bad deal
for the United States. And
1:11:31
that's how you tally up a
billion dollars of expenditures
1:11:34
over just about six months, with
very little to show for it in
1:11:37
terms of military or political
developments.
1:11:39
Adam Curry: I like to shoot and
scoot. That's
1:11:42
John C Dvorak: good scoot. I
think that would explain the
1:11:44
problem with catching these
guys. That's
1:11:46
Adam Curry: what we should have
on the instructions for our no
1:11:48
agenda slingshots. scootin.
Shoot.
1:11:52
John C Dvorak: Perfect. Anyway,
the last clip, which is this one
1:11:56
is brings up something that that
irks me
1:11:58
Unknown: expanding on that the
Cato Institute where you're
1:12:01
based has a piece out titled The
US military role in the Red Sea.
1:12:05
Now turning offensive is a bad
deal. Noting that the US led
1:12:09
coalition operation prosperity
Guardian has cost the US too
1:12:13
much. Given that what should be
the US strategy in the Red Sea
1:12:17
going forward? Well, I
1:12:19
think we got roped into this by
telling ourselves a story about
1:12:22
freedom of navigation, which
sounds like a really good
1:12:25
principle to defend, right, we
want commercial ships to be able
1:12:29
to go anywhere they want with
impunity. However, that's not
1:12:32
the way the international
economy works. So if you look at
1:12:35
what's transpired, the ship
traffic going through the Red
1:12:38
Sea has gone way down. And
there's a significant rerouting
1:12:42
of maritime traffic from the
Middle East around the Cape of
1:12:44
Good Hope. Almost all of this
carriages going to Europe, all
1:12:49
of almost all of the trade is
going to Europe, not to the
1:12:51
United States. So it's not the
case that we sort of run a
1:12:55
maritime convoy with every trade
shipment that goes around the
1:12:59
world. And that does increase
the costs at the margins for
1:13:03
European consumers of these
goods that are have to pay more
1:13:07
Mariners and have to use burn
more fuel to reroute away from
1:13:11
the Red Sea. But I think before
you get into a shooting war with
1:13:14
the Houthi is you want to have a
story that you can tell yourself
1:13:18
about what cost it would be
worth paying, and what that
1:13:21
likely cost would be to make a
dent in the Houthis ability to
1:13:26
launch these attacks, which
while terrifying, are not that
1:13:30
consequential? I mean, they've
been at this for the better part
1:13:32
of six months and they just sank
their second vessel and even so
1:13:36
there's still some commerce
going through the Red Sea so I
1:13:39
think we're you know, have been
in for a penny but should not be
1:13:42
in for a pound on this thing.
1:13:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, they gotta tee
that up. I think it's perfect.
1:13:46
Because the minute you the
minute you blocked you get the
1:13:50
choke point there. Yeah, you
have the Houthis with Iranian
1:13:54
missiles sinking something we
can send over more liquid
1:13:58
petroleum gas ships. Because the
exactly everybody here,
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: everybody here on
the deal if you get the hell out
1:14:06
of there, yep, scoot
1:14:07
Adam Curry: and shoot. Everyone
here knows that said, hey, you
1:14:10
know, it's kind of weird. When,
when, when the Nord Stream to
1:14:15
when that got blown up, you
know, by Putin, who did it
1:14:18
himself. It's kind of weird that
you guys showed up right away
1:14:21
with all that liquid petroleum
gas. That was really
1:14:23
interesting. That's why I say
hey, Michel,
1:14:28
John C Dvorak: it makes no sense
that we're there at all in the
1:14:30
Red Sea. Igloo protecting we're
projecting shipping to Europe,
1:14:35
let them predicted themselves.
No,
1:14:37
Adam Curry: I think we're gonna
sink something and then blame
1:14:39
it. It's this this false flag
written all over it all over it.
1:14:45
When that'd be perfect. Then we
can
1:14:48
John C Dvorak: worry. I like the
false doing a false flag and the
1:14:51
then get now it's about
1:14:53
Adam Curry: time. It's about
it's really tried. It's about
1:14:56
time for a false flag. We get a
good false flag people
1:15:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're way
overdue.
1:15:04
Adam Curry: For we take a break
to eclipse I've been tracking
1:15:07
this. And I think there's a new
angle that is that has come in
1:15:11
which I like, I may don't like
it. But I'd like what what
1:15:15
they're exposing in our season
of reveal. And this is about the
1:15:19
constant droning on and pushing
of age restrictions for social
1:15:25
media. And I thought
1:15:27
John C Dvorak: i
Congratulations. You brought it
1:15:30
up first. I didn't think much
about it. But this was where I
1:15:35
brought it up. Or you said you
had this, this thing about
1:15:39
Australia being a testbed. And
within a week, that's all
1:15:42
they're talking about over here.
We later is putting new
1:15:47
restrictions on social media so
the kids don't get hurt. There's
1:15:51
Adam Curry: something extra
going on. And I think we can
1:15:54
deconstruct this, because
they're, well, here's the first
1:15:57
one from NBC.
1:15:58
Unknown: A stark warning from
the nation's top Doctor
1:16:00
accelerates a national push to
limit kids access to social
1:16:04
media. And the New York Times
the Surgeon General writes, the
1:16:07
mental health crisis among young
people is an emergency and
1:16:11
social media has emerged as an
important contributor. On today
1:16:15
Dr. Murthy said adolescents
average five hours per day on
1:16:19
social media
1:16:20
when adolescents spend more than
three hours a day on social
1:16:24
media we're seeing an
association with a doubling of
1:16:26
the risk of anxiety and
depression symptoms.
1:16:29
surgeon general Murthy wants
congressional approval to add a
1:16:32
warning label on social media
much like the warning on
1:16:36
cigarettes. Research suggests
text posts and online bullying
1:16:40
can undermine kids self
confidence, especially body
1:16:43
image with some taking their own
lives.
1:16:46
Many of them say that they can't
get off it because the platforms
1:16:49
are often designed to maximize
how much time our kids are
1:16:53
spending on them. If you have
blood
1:16:54
on your hands you're January top
social media CEO is faced by
1:16:58
partisan fury. CEO Mark
Zuckerberg apologized to victims
1:17:02
families and sustained meta
Facebook is working to reduce
1:17:06
social media as harmful effects
make sure that your family's the
1:17:14
Surgeon General recommends phone
free zones at school and at home
1:17:18
during meals bedtime and social
gatherings. And kids should have
1:17:22
no access to social media until
they're out of middle school.
1:17:26
Adam Curry: Okay, so here's
here's what I've been tracking.
1:17:29
We've we're seeing states enact
rules and laws themselves. Not
1:17:35
all pass yet but hope goal came
in from New York. I'm pretty
1:17:40
sure California has done this
probably other states. And I've
1:17:44
been tracking my hatless and
pivot with your buddy Kara
1:17:48
Swisher protege, and Prof. G.
And they keep they've been
1:17:54
saying this for months I've just
been waiting and waiting and
1:17:57
waiting. And they keep bringing
up the same analogy to social
1:18:01
media age gating as they like to
call it we need to age gate that
1:18:05
it should be easy. We just
technology exists age gate. It's
1:18:09
just like the tobacco industry
now
1:18:12
Unknown: to the Surgeon General
calling for a tobacco style
1:18:15
warning label on social media,
saying it poses a mental health
1:18:19
crisis among young people.
Elizabeth shozy has those
1:18:22
details for us. Good morning,
Elizabeth. Good morning, Rebecca
1:18:25
and the US Surgeon General now
wants to put those warning style
1:18:28
labels on social media like what
you'd see for cigarettes or
1:18:31
tobacco. And an op ed in the New
York Times Dr. Vivek Murthy
1:18:35
writes, a surgeon general's
warning label which requires
1:18:38
congressional action would
regularly remind parents and
1:18:41
adolescents that social media
has not been proved safe. He
1:18:45
says that similar labels that
were put on tobacco products
1:18:47
have dramatically reduced their
usage. Now Murthy is pointing to
1:18:50
data that shows teens who spend
more than three hours a day on
1:18:54
social media faced double the
risk of anxiety or depression.
1:18:58
The average user that age was on
social media for almost five
1:19:01
hours a day last year Murthy
sounded the alarm about how
1:19:05
social media is contributing to
a mental health crisis among
1:19:08
younger Americans. He has urged
Congress to pass legislation
1:19:12
that would stop platforms from
collecting data about kids and
1:19:15
putting restrictions on push
notifications or auto scrolling.
1:19:18
And while there is bipartisan
support for some of those
1:19:21
measures, none of them have
passed in Congress guys.
1:19:24
Something so many parents are
thinking about here five hours a
1:19:28
day on social. Trust
1:19:29
me I saw that number and I said
I need to get home it takes the
1:19:32
phone.
1:19:33
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. All right.
So
1:19:36
John C Dvorak: that clip was on
your game is the second time
1:19:40
you've done it. It's clipped.
It's too low. I can barely hear
1:19:43
it. For
1:19:44
Adam Curry: so it was out of
balance. There's something with
1:19:47
clips clean for everyone else
heard something? Yeah, something
1:19:51
with clean feed is a problem. So
wait, wait, no, no, I have
1:19:55
something to say here. I was
leading this whole thing all you
1:19:58
can think about is the audio
Quality, please.
1:20:01
John C Dvorak: When you watch,
okay go on.
1:20:05
Adam Curry: When we we make the
comparison between social media
1:20:10
and tobacco and warning labels.
Now we know a lot about the
1:20:15
warning labels. First of all,
when you put the warning label
1:20:17
on it, it makes people want to
smoke more. So it only makes
1:20:21
kids want to be on social media
more. But what is the main thing
1:20:26
of tobacco regulation that we
learned from the master state's
1:20:29
agreement, taxation, taxation
goes to the states for to pay
1:20:34
for all the people who don't
have healthcare who will need
1:20:37
the mental health care. I think
we're getting a social media tax
1:20:41
per state that's coming in, just
like book, I wanted it in the
1:20:45
Red Book. There's something
something about this, this
1:20:49
comparison to tobacco that is
not just about age gating. It
1:20:53
has to do taxing.
1:20:55
John C Dvorak: I think that's an
interesting Well, no one. No
1:20:58
one's heard that yet. No. I have
two clips on cell phones and
1:21:03
schools, which is similar. Okay.
Because and what gets me about
1:21:08
these two cell phones a school
in Los Angeles mainly, is that
1:21:13
as I listened to these clips, I
can't believe that they've been
1:21:19
allowing, I guess, I haven't
been paying attention or I did
1:21:23
know this, but I wasn't really
tuned into it, that you have a
1:21:27
class full of kids. And half of
them are on their phones in the
1:21:31
classroom, scrolling or dicking
around or whatever they do. How
1:21:38
is this like, inclusive to
learning anything? I don't get
1:21:43
why these I'm sorry, why it's
been allowed to begin with. I'm
1:21:46
Adam Curry: sorry. At what point
did you think that we were still
1:21:49
teaching children in school
when? I mean, neither of us have
1:21:52
kids in school anymore. It's a
mess. It's a free for all. The
1:21:58
only some smaller schools,
private schools, no home
1:22:04
schools. There, the rest is a
mess. The teachers are woke then
1:22:08
they're not doing the Oh,
everyone's on meds and
1:22:11
everyone's on their phone.
1:22:15
John C Dvorak: And the US
disaster it is
1:22:17
Unknown: 72% of high school
teachers said a cell phone
1:22:20
distraction is a major problem
in the classroom. That's
1:22:24
according to a report last week
by the Pew Research Center.
1:22:27
Educators in Los Angeles are
taking action on this issue. By
1:22:31
early next year, students in the
nation's second largest school
1:22:35
district will no longer be able
to use cell phones during the
1:22:38
school day. NTDs. Cristina
Corona has more on the decision.
1:22:42
The LA Unified School District
the
1:22:44
Los Angeles Unified School
District Board of Education
1:22:47
voted Tuesday to ban cell phone
use during the school day board
1:22:51
member Nick Melvoin who pushed
the bill stated that students
1:22:56
are surreptitiously scrolling in
school in class time there have
1:23:00
their head in their hands
walking down the hallways.
1:23:02
They're not talking to each
other or playing at lunch or
1:23:05
recess because they have their
air pods in
1:23:07
the band which includes lunch
and breaks aims to improve
1:23:10
student's interpersonal
communication skills and reduce
1:23:14
social media distress and
cyberbullying.
1:23:16
It's crystallizing these
deleterious effects the harmful
1:23:19
effects on students academic
achievement on their mental
1:23:22
health on their physical health.
1:23:23
He noted that another school
districts with this policy kids
1:23:26
are happier, engage more with
each other and show improved
1:23:30
academic performance. When
teachers said that years ago,
1:23:33
students having a cell phone in
class wasn't as much of an issue
1:23:36
as it is today.
1:23:38
This year, even with a very
strict no cell phone policy in
1:23:43
my classroom, it was an uphill
battle. Managing Student use of
1:23:47
smartphones is now like as a
classroom teacher is now more
1:23:51
like running a nonstop marathon.
1:23:54
However, many board members
oppose the bill arguing that
1:23:57
cell phones are essential for
safety.
1:24:00
Adam Curry: Alright, just
because I can feel the steam
1:24:02
already rising. I want to say
there are many good teachers. I
1:24:06
know they've been castrated.
They have no power. They're
1:24:10
living in this woke complex and
it's being shoved down their
1:24:14
throat. There's plenty of good
ones. And it's very difficult. I
1:24:17
think if you choose that
profession, I hold you in high
1:24:20
regard. It's a tough, tough gig
these days. And luckily there
1:24:26
are you know, I'm seeing
initiatives eighth grade is kind
1:24:29
of the thing that pet because
the parents have to agree. No
1:24:32
cell phone, not just school, no
cell phone until eighth grade.
1:24:35
That's what a lot of parents are
talking about these days. I
1:24:38
think. No cell phone until
you're 80. Yeah.
1:24:45
John C Dvorak: Does the
smartphone came out in 2007?
1:24:49
It's taken 17 years are you
telling me to get to the point
1:24:55
where well gee, maybe we
shouldn't have these things in
1:24:57
class.
1:24:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I
think that what See what's
1:25:00
happening is the the adults
themselves are now realizing
1:25:05
Wow, I'm really messed up my
brains all jumbled the what must
1:25:10
be doing to the kids? I think it
took a long time to realize
1:25:14
remember all we could report on
for the first 10 years of
1:25:17
smartphones was all look at the
new iPhone. Oh this Whoa look at
1:25:21
this one new phone new phone.
1:25:24
John C Dvorak: But that's it.
That wasn't me.
1:25:26
Adam Curry: No, that's not.
1:25:30
John C Dvorak: Part two is shows
that some people are still
1:25:32
resisting. Our cell
1:25:34
Unknown: phones also provide
some comfort is I can reach my
1:25:38
son or we can reach our children
and he can reach me during an
1:25:41
emergency or when he needs me
1:25:43
what other members stated that
some kids will use their devices
1:25:46
regardless,
1:25:47
cell phones gonna exist anyway.
And before you live by yourself
1:25:51
or what's going to be noticed
they don't have it on their
1:25:52
watch and have a watch that
tells him the same stuff. The
1:25:56
same stuff you can do on the
cell phone you can do pretty
1:25:59
much from your computer.
1:26:00
However for some students using
cell phones is a necessity. It's
1:26:04
just that some of our newcomers
students utilize new
1:26:07
Adam Curry: bombers the new
comers good was it
1:26:11
Unknown: does just that some of
our newcomers students utilize
1:26:14
phones for translation purposes
obviously a person is ideal but
1:26:18
in sometimes in less common
languages, there's the
1:26:20
utilization of phones in class
for that purpose
1:26:23
school will be able to determine
how to implement the phone ban
1:26:26
whether by requiring phones to
be stored in lockers or pouches
1:26:30
during the day the resolution
instruct staff to develop and
1:26:33
present policies and a plan to
the public before the board
1:26:37
approves them. Within 120 days,
the policy will go into effect
1:26:41
as early as January 2025.
1:26:44
Adam Curry: And whenever I get
an email from a from a teacher,
1:26:47
say well what should I do? I
said leave the school and find
1:26:51
the homeschool movement. You're
in high demand. You'll love the
1:26:55
hours you'll love the
environment. Just you got to you
1:26:59
got to opt out of this. This is
It's unfixable. It's unfixable.
1:27:08
John C Dvorak: Think it is
unfixable? Especially if you're
1:27:10
going to have apologists like
the last clip had Oh, you know
1:27:14
they needed anyway. Oh, it's a
case of an emergency. I want my
1:27:18
kid to be able to get a hold of
me. What emergency what what how
1:27:22
often does this happen? Well,
but
1:27:23
Adam Curry: that's because we've
we've raised this whole my gen.
1:27:29
A generation now behind me.
They've been raised as ninnies.
1:27:34
You know, worried about
everything he's worried about
1:27:37
their kids, you know? worried
because emergency What if
1:27:40
there's a school? What it says
school shooting? I won't know
1:27:44
what to do.
1:27:47
John C Dvorak: No, ninnies.
1:27:49
Adam Curry: Hey with that I want
to thank you for your courage in
1:27:51
the morning to you the man who
put the sea in the cheap fake
1:27:54
say hello to my friend on the
other end the one and only Mr.
1:27:56
John Cena.
1:28:00
John C Dvorak: Morning new Mr.
Adam Korean morning all ships
1:28:03
and sea boots on the ground feed
near subs in the world in the
1:28:05
days and nights out there. Hello
there
1:28:12
Adam Curry: we're up today. This
is nice. We see on the last
1:28:15
Thursday. We had 1584 Today we
have 1609 Extra trolls and the
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troll room Good to see you there
trolls. Remember you can join
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the trolls live on our Thursday
and Sunday shows to you crack
1:28:28
some open there.
1:28:30
John C Dvorak: No, no. No, I
just thought you were watching
1:28:33
stuff off the list.
1:28:34
Adam Curry: I want to know your
drink and you can join the
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trolls at troll room.io or the
fancy new no agenda dot stream.
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Very nice. Very nice website.
Sir Tim coded monkey put in. I
1:28:46
gotta make sure I say coded
monkey. And well, you can use a
1:28:50
modern podcast app. There's
plenty of them. Pod verse is a
1:28:53
great one to use. Cast thematic
podcast guru fountain you can
1:28:57
find them at podcast apps.com.
Why are they so cool? Well,
1:29:01
first of all, they're built by
independent people. So you can
1:29:03
have something changed or added
if you want to you can talk to
1:29:05
the developer also, when we go
live, you don't get this on
1:29:08
Apple or Spotify didn't even
have live in their podcast apps.
1:29:12
When we go live boom, you get a
notification. You tap on
1:29:16
listening live. He get chapters
you get transcripts. And the
1:29:20
minute we publish it night in
about a minute and a half. 90
1:29:23
seconds later, you get notified
if you're listening later. It's
1:29:26
fantastic. I don't see why you
would still you get people. It
1:29:30
has been uploaded to Apple for
five hours after the show. I'm
1:29:33
flipping out. Get a real app.
Stop it. Stop it. Rev if you're
1:29:40
listening to the show, you
should be against the man.
1:29:43
Certainly against Spotify.
That's where I can find your
1:29:46
podcast on Spotify. There's a
reason for that. Because they
1:29:50
want to put ads in because you
have to sign a contract. That's
1:29:54
not how podcasting supposed to
work. Take it for me. I was
1:29:58
there. Yeah. You're the guy I
was there I was there I
1:30:01
John C Dvorak: don't get it.
It's very weird. didn't touch
1:30:04
Spotify call you and ask you for
some advice at some point.
1:30:07
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. When cuz
when they were when they were
1:30:09
rolling out when they're getting
ready for their podcast strategy
1:30:12
they had hosted the consultancy.
Not Anderson but the were mayor
1:30:17
peeps from
1:30:19
John C Dvorak: Indianapolis No,
no,
1:30:20
Adam Curry: the consultancy the
consultants, the consultants.
1:30:23
Oh, McKinsey McKinsey. Yeah.
They did a big white paper. And
1:30:27
my advice was don't do it.
McKinsey
1:30:29
John C Dvorak: got to do it. The
price of bread when it comes to
1:30:31
podcasting, when they have
somebody who actually invented
1:30:33
the whole thing. Like you, for
example. Well just ask, and you
1:30:40
probably would have given it
away.
1:30:41
Adam Curry: Well, they called me
mackynzie called me and said,
1:30:45
Well, you know, they had all
these questions. I said, this is
1:30:47
this is a dumb idea. Stay out of
podcasts and just generally
1:30:50
screw it up.
1:30:51
John C Dvorak: And she said,
Instead of that, you should say,
1:30:54
Well, I my fee is
1:30:57
Adam Curry: no I wanted I wanted
to warn them. And they promised
1:31:00
me a copy of the report, which
they never gave me so McKinsey
1:31:03
are liars. They're liars is
horrible. They lie believable.
1:31:07
That happened. Liars. Yeah. Gee,
I wonder why that happened? No,
1:31:13
I said, Don't do this. This is
stupid. And they spent a billion
1:31:16
dollars in didn't work. There
you go. That's how it goes.
1:31:26
Yeah, obviously they try to do
at advertising play. As we say
1:31:30
in the business. We've got an
advertising play. Well, how did
1:31:32
that work out? It didn't. It
didn't they got all the big
1:31:35
names, like Michelle Obama and
the Kardashians. And Megan
1:31:41
Markel, and Harry, and it
failed. Because no one cares.
1:31:45
They're not podcasters it's just
celebrities doing an mp3 trying
1:31:49
to get some ad money. And then
they couldn't even fulfill it.
1:31:52
They had to open it up and put
on all the podcast apps. And
1:31:56
then, you know, people always
say, you know, it's so smart
1:31:59
that you guys didn't go with
advertising because you know,
1:32:02
you can't get the platform. I
just want to be honest about it
1:32:06
the real honest reason because
we weren't thinking about D
1:32:09
platforming in 2007 We weren't
thinking about that. No, because
1:32:13
it wasn't a thing that I think
brand safety was already kind of
1:32:17
bubbling under you know there
was some talk about it that term
1:32:21
specifically but
1:32:21
John C Dvorak: it wasn't like it
was went once they D platform
1:32:24
Alex no need to be exhausting to
start throwing people off the
1:32:28
air
1:32:29
Adam Curry: you're out Yeah,
well it wasn't like that. The
1:32:32
reason why we wouldn't didn't
want to have an advertising
1:32:35
model in the beginning was
because we didn't want to have
1:32:37
any meetings with advertisers do
you know how tedious it
1:32:40
John C Dvorak: was the main
thing you said are you had to
1:32:42
actually Moore's lewd way? I did
it I
1:32:45
Adam Curry: did. We don't want
to talk to those guys. It's
1:32:49
tedious. It's horribly of that
meetings. And then that listen,
1:32:53
we didn't really quite like your
read on that last show. Yeah, he
1:32:56
didn't really didn't really
punch at home and John stopped
1:32:59
making noises when Adams doing
the read. Yeah, who needs that
1:33:02
nonsense.
1:33:04
John C Dvorak: It's exactly what
you'd get.
1:33:07
Adam Curry: And then they'll be
like, in and we get in fights
1:33:10
we're like, Well, we really like
John's read better. So we're
1:33:14
gonna have him read everything
and then I'll be like, Well,
1:33:18
yeah, we get in fights about it
would be bad between us would be
1:33:20
bad blood.
1:33:24
John C Dvorak: More money
though. Well,
1:33:25
Adam Curry: maybe that well.
Although something kind of
1:33:29
amazing happened today. Yes.
1:33:31
John C Dvorak: Well, I do we
have we do have people are super
1:33:33
supporters that come in every so
often, but it wasn't for them.
1:33:36
No, I
1:33:37
Adam Curry: mean, we literally
have the amount of donations is
1:33:41
very
1:33:42
John C Dvorak: sparse today.
Yeah, we only have 35 Actually,
1:33:46
but and
1:33:47
Adam Curry: this is kind of the
random number theory. And this
1:33:49
is this is what we discovered
with value for value. Somehow
1:33:52
the roller coaster evens out
along the way. Duchess Kim of
1:33:56
the fluffer noddy's decided her
fluffy is not it says fluffer
1:34:02
noddy's
1:34:04
John C Dvorak: English it Yeah,
but I think that's just another
1:34:06
type of word.
1:34:10
Adam Curry: Not her fluffy. I
think you're right. I mean, it
1:34:13
didn't sound right when I
1:34:13
John C Dvorak: read this in the
note, the note is Oh, it didn't.
1:34:17
Adam Curry: It didn't sound
right when I read she's Kim
1:34:19
John C Dvorak: keeper of the
natty fluffy There you
1:34:21
Adam Curry: go. fluffers Nadine,
Hey, what's wrong? What is Jay
1:34:24
thinking of when she's doing the
spreadsheet?
1:34:26
John C Dvorak: She cracked up
and she said you know you guys
1:34:29
can fix it.
1:34:31
Adam Curry: No one told me fix
it in post. Another thing we
1:34:36
decided we never do. She decided
to come in with two donations.
1:34:42
The first one is really
incredible. is none other than
1:34:47
the coveted soon to be rewarded
with I hope a challenge coin or
1:34:53
tote bag we're still working on
it. Tote Bag is to know is the
1:34:58
magic number. A donation, also
known as the rubble, iser
1:35:04
donation
1:35:06
Unknown: in the standby 3333 or
otherwise are out. So
1:35:16
Adam Curry: 3333 dot 33 She just
comes in, lays that right down
1:35:21
and then comes in with another
1000 with a note my read which
1:35:28
is a switcheroo you have it
there in front of you. Yeah, I
1:35:31
John C Dvorak: do it I'm John
and Adam she needs some jingles
1:35:35
retirement karma. That's an
interesting thing to develop.
1:35:39
Little Girl Yeah, and screw your
freedom. This donations a
1:35:42
switcheroo for my dad John his
his birthday June 26 65 is going
1:35:47
to be 65 and a Father's Day gift
from all his Oregon family have
1:35:53
a lot like denied him pop pop of
the pocket protectors and keeper
1:35:59
of his 15 grand babies. At least
somebody's doing their part. at
1:36:06
the round table. Can I get him
some Patrone platinum and
1:36:10
Tomahawk steaks, good ones,
which is an interesting thing.
1:36:15
He taught me how to be how to be
tougher when things got hard,
1:36:19
and how to push through any
obstacle in my way because of
1:36:23
him. I am where I am today.
Which is
1:36:26
Adam Curry: in a good spot
apparently. In a good spot. We
1:36:28
John C Dvorak: like it. Yes. And
I would change nothing from our
1:36:32
past. Shit was hard, but we
still kick some ass for
1:36:36
everything. Wow. Oh yeah, you
two are great as well. Worth,
1:36:42
Duchess Kim, keeper of the nutty
fluffers and Hubbard Oregon.
1:36:45
It's $1,000
1:36:47
Adam Curry: Wow. And that's the
switcheroo for him as you said
1:36:49
and we don't necessarily have an
exit strategy karma but I'll
1:36:53
make one up for you. Screw you
freedom
1:37:00
Unknown: or more Yeah.
1:37:07
You've got karma. That's
1:37:10
John C Dvorak: well, she
actually went to retirement
1:37:12
karma not exit strategy. But
1:37:13
Adam Curry: that's retirement
when we say exit strategy.
1:37:15
That's retarded. Look, did you
have anything better?
1:37:18
John C Dvorak: I never. I never
thought of it as retirement I
1:37:21
thought of is doing something
different.
1:37:23
Adam Curry: What do you think
he's, you think he's just going
1:37:25
to sit on his but he's got
1:37:27
John C Dvorak: to do it with a
daughter like that? I
1:37:29
Adam Curry: doubt it. Yeah,
he'll probably be doing
1:37:31
something. Onward today. There's
1:37:34
John C Dvorak: no such thing as
retirement for people like No,
1:37:36
not like that. jurien
1:37:39
Adam Curry: Faust is in
Heidelberg, Missouri 333 dot 33.
1:37:45
This is also a switcheroo to
Blaine brining for his birthday
1:37:50
June 22. Happy 60th birthday to
my smokin hot husband. Brian
1:37:54
breading in Evansville, Indiana.
Please do do shit. Ben de douche
1:38:00
has recently hit him in the
mouth. I love you baby from
1:38:04
jurien Oh, nice.
1:38:09
John C Dvorak: Sir D I'm sorry
your Jurina is Sebastian that oh
1:38:14
Sebastiaan de Stigler? stricter,
stricter stricter. So
1:38:19
Adam Curry: Sebastiaan the
shifter stick down past the
1:38:24
geese traced birds gashed.
1:38:30
John C Dvorak: And he's already
our Associate Executive
1:38:32
Producer. We're done with the
executives just that quickly.
1:38:36
290 201 And he says in
hindsight, it took way too long
1:38:40
to get the knighthood, but I
made it keep doing what you're
1:38:43
doing. May you never exit
execute on your exit strategy
1:38:47
ideas. What if we did, please
Knight me as Knight of the Dutch
1:38:54
spirit grounds equals completely
wrong and literal translation of
1:38:59
the of the de geest Garone den?
already blessed with Karma so
1:39:06
not not needed. If any jingles
at all, please select them
1:39:09
yourselves. To expand Sebastien.
Oh,
1:39:12
Adam Curry: the face Chroma.
That's what it is the face the
1:39:14
face through face. I'm gonna
give them a karma. He wants
1:39:20
that. You've got karma. By the
way I wanted to. I wanted to
1:39:24
thank Harry Harry's is doing
because Carrie is the one who
1:39:28
spent 15 hours knitting the
monkey. Which, which is the show
1:39:32
title. I remember I got that.
That needed monkey. From the
1:39:38
meetup. Yeah, yeah. So her son
gave it to me. And I said, Oh, I
1:39:43
got a monkey. And he's like,
Dude, my mom has spent 15 hours
1:39:46
on that. Can't you like thank
her? Like, okay. I think you're
1:39:52
right. Good point. Good point.
Here's sir D. from Martin's DAG,
1:39:56
the Netherlands. Hey, guys
forgot to donate it. The meetup
1:39:58
was nice meeting you Adam.
That's 210 and 60. And John, I
1:40:03
love my old Lexus and I love
what I do, sir D of the whole
1:40:07
long surrounding all right, and
he's Dutch man. I love these
1:40:10
guys. Like, hey, you know, I
gotta make sure I pony up for
1:40:15
the meetup. Thank you. Thank you
brother.
1:40:18
John C Dvorak: Linden LAPACK is
on the list and she's last on
1:40:21
the list. This is how grim it
is. In Lake Thank you.
1:40:25
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Lakewood, Colorado. 200 bucks.
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she hasn't missed a beat for an
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Unknown: She does jobs, jobs,
jobs and jobs for jobs.
1:41:18
Adam Curry: Well, thank you very
much, especially thanks to
1:41:20
Duchess Kim for saving us here.
Beautiful. Thank you to our
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Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We had people in the mouth
1:42:12
through your freedoms
1:42:20
John C Dvorak: Can we start with
the bonus clip?
1:42:23
Adam Curry: Now did you get my
email? Did you get my email
1:42:26
about the bonus clip?
1:42:28
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't want
to say that.
1:42:29
Adam Curry: It said Do you
realize this is from 2019?
1:42:34
John C Dvorak: No, it's from
2020.
1:42:36
Adam Curry: I think okay.
1:42:37
John C Dvorak: Well he was
writing him I was somebody
1:42:39
research instead it was from
2024 years
1:42:42
Adam Curry: old. I mean,
everyone's this clip is is going
1:42:44
viral. I'm like who cares? It's
old. I mean, we know everyone
1:42:48
was
1:42:48
John C Dvorak: I can I know what
is that is old, but it got to
1:42:54
fell through the cracks because
of COVID.
1:42:57
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Okay, so
we're gonna dig this old cow out
1:43:01
of the canal.
1:43:03
John C Dvorak: I'm digging the
cow out of the canal. Because
1:43:06
it's clogging up things. And
because the guy who's who this
1:43:13
is from New Amsterdam or
Amsterdam News, New Andrew, New
1:43:17
Amsterdam. Yeah, it was it is
about the Bellevue Hospital. It
1:43:20
was from a from a novel, they
turned into a TV show. It lasted
1:43:24
five years somehow. And it ended
in 2023. I mean, it's at least
1:43:29
two years old. And it and the
guy who was the creator of this
1:43:36
show as a huge Democrats, if you
look him up and open secrets
1:43:40
he's donated, and he's big, big
Biden supporter. Oh, and so I so
1:43:44
I thought because of all that,
that it would be worth listening
1:43:48
to his I never heard it before.
1:43:50
Unknown: Makes him comfortable.
There's a couch over there. He's
1:43:56
okay. By hence the first answer
some questions from a Harvard
1:43:59
test known as unrest. It is
designed to measure someone's
1:44:04
level of social resistance,
1:44:05
social resistance. When people
like us oppose the values and
1:44:10
policies of the dominant
culture. What does that have to
1:44:13
do
1:44:14
so he feels threatened on a
daily basis, like everything
1:44:18
he's earned can just be taken
away. He's disenfranchised. But
1:44:22
because his life is seemingly
free from all this, because he
1:44:26
can't name it. He's
internalizing it racism I think
1:44:35
it sounds tomorrow's caused by
racism.
1:44:39
Adam Curry: Yes. The beauty
tumors caused by racism, tumors
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: caused by design
with credit. One of our
1:44:49
producers sending me that and I
looked into it of course and you
1:44:53
find out what it was an old it's
an old clip. There's no doubt
1:44:55
about it, but I never heard it.
And the fact that they'd have
1:44:58
the guts to put something like
that Add on TV is just
1:45:01
astonishing.
1:45:02
Adam Curry: Well remember it was
during COVID, you made the point
1:45:04
a lot of stuff was going on in
2020. And they shot it before
1:45:07
that, of course, they probably
shot it when Trump you know,
1:45:11
Trump was president and we have
Black Lives Matter. And so there
1:45:15
was all that stuff that was
going on. But it doesn't matter
1:45:19
because we have still a lot of
racism happening, particularly
1:45:23
at American Airlines.
Interesting little gaps in this
1:45:26
clip to fourth base
1:45:28
Unknown: American Airlines is
responding after three black
1:45:31
passengers accused the airline
of racial discrimination. CEO
1:45:35
Robert ISON wrote a letter to
airline employees Tuesday that
1:45:38
called the incident
unacceptable. Now three black
1:45:41
passengers sued American in
federal court last month
1:45:44
accusing flight attendants of
removing them due to racial
1:45:48
discrimination. The airline says
another passenger complained of
1:45:51
an offensive odor which led to
their removal but the lawsuit
1:45:55
says flight attendants made no
mention of an offensive odor on
1:45:59
an earlier flight on the same
day, American CEO wrote in that
1:46:03
letter to employees that the
airline would take immediate
1:46:06
action in the aftermath of this
incident forming an advisory
1:46:10
group that would focus on
improving the travel experience
1:46:13
specifically for black
customers. Now, the NAACP
1:46:17
responded with a statement
saying, quote, the NAACP is
1:46:20
pleased to see that American
Airlines has taken initial steps
1:46:24
towards a path to forge a path
rather towards a more inclusive
1:46:29
experience for all while it is
unfortunately common for black
1:46:32
consumers to experience racism
and discrimination at the hands
1:46:36
of corporations. It is not
common to see such swipe swift
1:46:40
and device decisive action,
1:46:43
Adam Curry: divisive. Our heads
filled with diversity and
1:46:46
divisiveness. And she can't
heard that. So, I mean, that
1:46:50
it's a weird story. Like did the
black people stink? Is that what
1:46:54
you're saying? Was that the
accusation
1:46:56
John C Dvorak: idea? you team up
with some some guys or some?
1:47:00
Anybody you want you you're the
white person, and you team up
1:47:04
with some and you make this
complaint to get him kicked off
1:47:07
so they can sue and you get part
of the you get a piece of the
1:47:09
action? Oh, in other words, the
whole thing is a scam. Is that
1:47:13
possible that anyone would do
that? You think?
1:47:16
Adam Curry: No self respecting
black American would? No,
1:47:20
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
scammer.
1:47:23
Adam Curry: We stick with a
trans Maoism for a second I got
1:47:25
some feedback. Remember the U
turn sign that was taken down
1:47:30
which was a clear symbol of
LGBTQ i A P hatred. Yeah,
1:47:38
remember the story? Right? And I
and I was saying, you know,
1:47:41
there's something weird about
this. What are they promoting?
1:47:44
What is going on? Why is the
drag queen there? Well, guess
1:47:49
what? The drag queen is none
other than maybe ma II who was
1:47:57
elected in California district
30 elected to Congress under
1:48:05
that screwball name that he she
uses Yeah, with the wig and
1:48:09
everything maybe
1:48:11
John C Dvorak: a guy I think is
what the name was
1:48:14
Adam Curry: maybe for Congress
but okay yes, here's here's
1:48:17
maybes here's maybes platform
universal health care tuition
1:48:22
free college housing for ALL
Whoa. Environmental Justice LBG
1:48:27
LGBTQ i A rights racial justice
abolish ice livable wage no more
1:48:34
war. I'm all in with navy and
reproductive rights. In the
1:48:38
website is maybe a girl for
congress.org Oh, maybe a girl?
1:48:42
Yeah, maybe a girl for
congress.org So that's what this
1:48:47
was about. And you remember that
then there was this? This weird
1:48:50
signage everywhere about baby
gay and we were questioning with
1:48:53
that as well. Yeah, baby gay.
Well, trust trust our anonymous
1:48:57
gay accountant to check in. And
the anonymous gay accountant who
1:49:01
has my number text me dude.
Dude, dude. That's how we talk,
1:49:08
dude. Baby gay is not a gay
couples baby dressed up in pink.
1:49:13
There's no baby gay book they're
selling a baby gay is just some
1:49:19
guy that has recently come out
of the closet. He could be 30 or
1:49:21
25 or 50 or 18 or whatever. Oh
is slaying? Yes. Just someone
1:49:27
new at being out in gay culture.
Some people think the term is
1:49:31
funny and some don't like it.
It's animosity in the gay
1:49:35
community.
1:49:36
John C Dvorak: They're bound to
be Yeah.
1:49:39
Adam Curry: And then
1:49:40
John C Dvorak: this report which
we're keeping up somehow. Yeah.
1:49:44
Adam Curry: Well, thank you.
This is why this is why we have
1:49:46
producers is why you don't have
listeners. We have producers
1:49:49
whenever we say something off or
dumb or whatever. Or even if
1:49:53
there's something we haven't
said and you think you want to
1:49:56
tell us Wow bless you. Do you
want to want to blow your nose?
1:50:02
No, I think you do. No, no, I'm
fine. Okay. Whenever there's
1:50:06
something that everyone's an
expert at something every buddy
1:50:09
is an expert at something. And
your job is to let us know. So,
1:50:15
the anonymous gay accountant,
he's a he's an expert in
1:50:18
accounting and gay, so perfect,
appreciate. And then there's
1:50:22
this story which has an
interesting kicker at the end a
1:50:24
case in
1:50:25
Unknown: the making since 2017.
Now in the hands of the Colorado
1:50:29
Supreme Court. For background
autumns Gardena, a transgender
1:50:33
woman ordered a pink cake with
blue frosting commemorating her
1:50:37
transition. Jack Phillips of
masterpiece cake shop refused
1:50:41
after learning its significance,
1:50:43
I will not recreate a custom
cake expressing any message that
1:50:47
violates my religious beliefs.
Regardless of grasper under
1:50:51
the Colorado anti discrimination
act, it's illegal for places of
1:50:54
public accommodation like retail
stores to discriminate against
1:50:58
protected classes of people
which includes transgender
1:51:02
people. But Phillips lawyers of
the conservative legal group
1:51:05
Alliance Defending Freedom claim
a recent Supreme Court ruling
1:51:09
protecting artists freedom of
speech is on their side
1:51:13
when the Supreme Court ruled in
303 Creative. The court
1:51:16
reaffirmed that Colorado can't
force artists to express
1:51:19
messages they don't believe the
Constitution prevents the
1:51:22
government from forcing cake
artists, website designers,
1:51:26
photographers and other artists
to express messages they don't
1:51:29
believe in their custom art.
1:51:31
Well, some LGBTQ rights
supporters watching the case are
1:51:34
concerned about how the justices
will rule in light of 303
1:51:38
creative Scardino as attorney
claims that case is too narrow
1:51:42
to apply. Sticking with this
argument, businesses
1:51:47
are not permitted to
discriminate against members of
1:51:50
the public just because they
object to their gender identity.
1:51:54
This
1:51:54
isn't Jack Phillips first time
in court back in 2018. The US
1:51:57
Supreme Court sided with Philips
and a narrow ruling after he
1:52:01
refused to make a wedding cake
for same sex couple. The US
1:52:04
Supreme Court announced it would
take up that case in 2017. And
1:52:07
on the same date when made the
announcement scarred Deena
1:52:10
called requesting the pink and
blue cake.
1:52:12
Adam Curry: So this is all
posturing. It's all phony. It's
1:52:16
all fake. This person is not
really offended. They're just
1:52:19
trying to make a point. minute
then in the meanwhile,
1:52:25
everyone's hair on it's the same
guy from the gay cake.
1:52:29
Unknown: To gay cake. Yeah, the
gay cake
1:52:31
John C Dvorak: admissions show
title.
1:52:32
Adam Curry: They didn't want to
do the trans cake, but it was
1:52:35
filed on the same day of the gay
cake ruling. This is just
1:52:41
John C Dvorak: free publicity. I
don't know what they're up to.
1:52:43
Well, and Colorado is Colorado
is more screwed up than
1:52:46
California. But this brings
1:52:48
Adam Curry: me to another case
that I think is worth
1:52:49
discussing. Because I'm gonna
take the other side on this. And
1:52:53
I think I know what's going on
here. This is Louisiana, who
1:52:57
have now put into law that the
10 commandments must hang in
1:53:01
every single public school
classroom. Critics
1:53:04
Unknown: say it threatens to
blur the separation between
1:53:06
church and state enshrined in
the First Amendment in the US
1:53:10
Constitution. Republican
governor Jeff Landry signing
1:53:13
into law new legislation
requiring the 10 commandments be
1:53:16
displayed in classrooms across
the state of Louisiana.
1:53:20
John C Dvorak: This bill
mandates the display of the 10
1:53:23
commandments in every classroom
in public, elementary, secondary
1:53:27
and post education schools in
the state of Louisiana because
1:53:30
if you want to respect the rule
of law, you got to start from
1:53:34
the original law giver, which
was Moses.
1:53:38
Unknown: All right, the
Louisiana
1:53:40
the first country to require
that the religious texts be
1:53:43
displayed in public schools. The
law orders that posters no
1:53:46
smaller than 28 by 35
centimeters be put up on them.
1:53:51
commandments must be laid out in
large and easily readable font.
1:53:55
While the religious texts will
be the central focus. It will
1:53:58
also be paired with a statement
detailing the 10 commandments
1:54:01
have been a prominent part of
American public education for
1:54:04
almost three centuries. Soon
after the bill was signed into
1:54:07
law civil rights groups vowed to
sue. The joint statements the
1:54:11
American Civil Liberties Union
and several other organizations
1:54:15
say the legislation is
unconstitutional. The First
1:54:18
Amendment promises that we all
get to decide for ourselves what
1:54:21
religious beliefs if any to hold
and practice without pressure
1:54:25
from the government. Politicians
have no business imposing their
1:54:28
preferred religious doctrine on
students and families in public
1:54:31
schools.
1:54:32
It's not the first time such a
case has come up. In 19. AC the
1:54:36
Supreme Court ruled that a
similar Kentucky law was
1:54:39
unconstitutional but six
conservatives now in the top
1:54:42
courts, supporters of this new
law believe the justices would
1:54:45
rule in their favor in any
potential lawsuits. I
1:54:48
Adam Curry: don't think it's
about about the Supreme Court. I
1:54:51
think that first of all, as much
as I think it's a great idea,
1:54:54
I'm gonna give it to the ACLU on
this one. Obviously, this is
1:54:58
where the so called Set ration
of church and state in the First
1:55:01
Amendment does apply. The
government cannot mandate any
1:55:07
anything religious, I think you
can you can make an argument
1:55:10
that this is a mandate of a
religious text. However, I think
1:55:15
they're doing it to get the to
get the pride flags out. I think
1:55:18
that I think this is a setup.
1:55:21
John C Dvorak: That's an
interesting theory. It might be
1:55:26
a way to get the pride flags out
because there's too many of them
1:55:28
are becoming a
1:55:29
Adam Curry: problem or make them
a certain size 35 centimeters,
1:55:33
your flag can only be this big,
something like that.
1:55:37
John C Dvorak: I think that's
interesting, because why oh,
1:55:39
well, California talking about
all these issues California
1:55:42
since you're playing these
localized clips, play this clip
1:55:45
here, which is I think, more
concerning than anything I don't
1:55:49
be honest about I don't think
the 10 commandments are a big
1:55:52
deal to take out of the schools
good idea, but Cal schools and
1:55:56
the pronoun law, school
1:55:58
Unknown: districts in California
would be banned from forcing
1:56:00
teachers to notify parents if
their child asks to go buy a new
1:56:04
pronoun. Today the state Senate
approved this proposal now heads
1:56:08
to the assembly. Supporters say
it protects LGBTQ students from
1:56:13
bullying and harassment.
Opponents say the bill strips
1:56:16
parental rights undermines the
trust between schools and
1:56:19
parents.
1:56:21
Adam Curry: Hmm Well,
1:56:22
John C Dvorak: this is the show
so in other words, the kid is a
1:56:24
girl at the school and wants to
be a boy and then the and must
1:56:30
be called Zhi Zhu or whatever
him yo the astute the the
1:56:35
teachers are forbidden from
mentioning any of this to the
1:56:39
parents
1:56:40
Adam Curry: is great. Take it as
crazy as
1:56:43
John C Dvorak: funny you can't
have a cell phone but but and
1:56:46
then the rationale is to prevent
bullying does the bullying take
1:56:50
place in school 90 haha at
somebody's house? Unless you're
1:56:54
bullied by your your parents? Is
that what they're saying?
1:56:57
They're saying the parents are
bullies know what they're trying
1:56:59
to imply?
1:57:02
Adam Curry: It's, it's nonsense.
It's nonsense. But let me just
1:57:08
go back to to religion. I think
we can safely say and we may
1:57:13
even be able to prove it
scientifically that climate ism
1:57:16
is a religion. Would you agree?
1:57:22
John C Dvorak: We've discussed
this before in the past and
1:57:24
listed the Bible of the of the
of that religion and on and on
1:57:28
and the various saints of that
religion. Hansen for example,
1:57:33
weed This is not a new topic.
No,
1:57:36
Adam Curry: no, I'm not going to
discuss that as the topic. But I
1:57:38
think they shouldn't be able to
teach it in school. As climate
1:57:41
ism is out of control. We are
talking Okay. You started the
1:57:46
show off talking about
gaslighting. You want to hear
1:57:50
some gaslighting? Here's Kathy
Hoko governor of New York. This
1:57:55
Unknown: is not a natural hot
weather stretch for us here in
1:57:58
New York, especially upstate.
But we're gonna be seeing
1:58:01
temperatures at levels we have
not seen in our lifetimes. And
1:58:05
I'm wondering Yorkers and what
we're doing about this
1:58:08
significant public health event
right now everywhere north of
1:58:12
New York City is under a heat
advisory and it's only going to
1:58:15
get worse starting today in the
Genesee Valley and the Finger
1:58:18
Lakes. And starting tomorrow.
Extreme heat will hit everywhere
1:58:23
in the great state of New York.
Now, what does this mean? It's a
1:58:26
dangerous mix of high
temperatures and extreme
1:58:30
humidity causing feels like
temperature of over 100 degrees.
1:58:35
Now that's hot.
1:58:38
John C Dvorak: You and I have
bought, by the way that social
1:58:41
media just blast off cars, all
kinds. You and I have both been
1:58:46
in New York. I lived there for
12 years and in New Jersey lived
1:58:50
in the area forever. Yeah. And
it's like this. Every summer I
1:58:54
was there one year to get some
meetings. I had to be there. And
1:58:57
right in the middle of summer, I
think it was in August. And it
1:59:00
was so hot and humid. That
literally had to change my
1:59:04
clothes three times a day.
Because you just get soaked.
1:59:08
Yeah, and it's just a mess. And
this isn't during our lifetimes.
1:59:13
Adam Curry: I remember I
remember walking on the streets
1:59:15
of New York City and the tar was
sticking to your shoes. Now
1:59:19
okay, it's
1:59:20
John C Dvorak: terrible. It can
get miserable and very,
1:59:22
Adam Curry: very humid, and a
jacket and it just hangs there.
1:59:27
Now of course, this is because
of the so called heat dome,
1:59:31
which they are now lying about.
We discovered this on a previous
1:59:34
episode. They're saying oh, this
is the this is the carbon
1:59:37
dioxide it hangs in the air. And
that creates you in one spot
1:59:42
fish creates a wet blanket over
over everything and that's why
1:59:46
it's hot instead of the humidity
and even some dust there's all
1:59:51
kinds of stuff that causes it.
But this is not the carbon
1:59:54
dioxide but no more
1:59:56
Unknown: than a dozen cities hit
new record highs today including
1:59:59
boss in Hartford, Connecticut
and Gary Indiana as 18 states
2:00:04
broil under the heat dome,
Tina's
2:00:06
Adam Curry: roil Tina's entire
family still lives in Indiana.
2:00:10
She grew up literally on the
other side of the train tracks
2:00:14
from Gary, Indiana. Guess who
hasn't been calling like, oh,
2:00:19
cheetahs sister. You won't
believe it. Her family because
2:00:24
like, okay, it's a little warm.
But oh, Gary, Indiana. We're
2:00:29
pleased and what are we talking
90 degrees? Oh, no, it's 90. The
2:00:33
map is red.
2:00:34
Unknown: In some places. It
2:00:35
felt as hot as 110 degrees felt
as
2:00:39
Adam Curry: hot. So it wasn't
actually that hot just felt that
2:00:42
way. CBS
2:00:43
Unknown: is Lilla Lilia Luciano
reports from a brutally hot
2:00:46
Philadelphia in the city of
brotherly love. The heat came
2:00:49
early. Super hot. EMT Don Yellow
Green says he's bracing for a
2:00:55
busy season. Are you making
those knots earlier in the
2:00:58
season you feel this? Last
summer it was actually summer
2:01:01
when we started getting
exhausted. The city has already
2:01:07
declared its first heat health
emergency of the year through
2:01:10
Saturday in Vermont for out here
for the next couple days just
2:01:15
trying to beat the heat. Get out
of the heat though. There are
2:01:17
parts of the state today that
are almost 10 degrees hotter
2:01:20
than Miami. Meteorologists show
Winkley with Climate Central
2:01:24
says Miami
2:01:25
Adam Curry: is almost hotter
than Miami is 87 degrees. Is
2:01:32
Horowitz calling you saying I
can't do the show. It's too hot
2:01:36
a melting here. This is this is
gaslighting
2:01:40
Unknown: meteorologist Joe
Winkley. With Climate Central
2:01:42
says the shifting weather
patterns have a culprit talk to
2:01:46
us about the impact of human
activity on these heat patterns
2:01:50
as we pollute our atmosphere
with things like carbon, extra
2:01:54
carbon from burning oil and
natural gas and coal.
2:01:58
Adam Curry: Either way, I think
it means carbon dioxide, I'm
2:02:02
just going to keep harping on
that I refuse to allow people to
2:02:05
just call it carbon. It's not
carbon is carbon dioxide. That's
2:02:11
what you've told us. The problem
was you can't just you know,
2:02:14
it's going to be carb. That'll
be it. And before you know what
2:02:16
carbs are just going to be
carbon dioxide carbs.
2:02:19
Unknown: Talk to us about the
impact of human activity on
2:02:23
these heat patterns.
2:02:24
As we pollute our atmosphere
with things like carbon, extra
2:02:27
carbon from burning oil and
natural gas and coal. What we're
2:02:32
essentially doing is trapping in
a lot of this heat adds that
2:02:36
wool blanket over the top of us
so that he is basically trapped.
2:02:39
There's nowhere for it to go.
2:02:43
And what's interesting, too, is
that the nighttime temperatures
2:02:45
are also rising. So there's not
enough time for the cities for
2:02:48
the land for people to recover
before the sun comes out. So it
2:02:52
only keeps getting
2:02:53
hotter. Important
2:02:55
Adam Curry: explanation really,
Luciano? Thank you. So it's
2:02:57
important explanation. Thank
you. It's a lie. That is not
2:03:02
what I need to go back and get
some old heat dome clips to so
2:03:06
they couldn't hear what they
were talking about when it was
2:03:07
actually a heat dome, which
we've had heat domes happen. Not
2:03:12
these Oh, it's carbon diet as
carbon is just hanging in the
2:03:15
air the carbon like a blanket
2:03:17
John C Dvorak: has more did you
have to barometric pressure?
2:03:19
Yes, it's
2:03:20
Adam Curry: all about the
pressure now. So this was a nice
2:03:24
little one of those performative
q&a is in Senate, which is
2:03:30
always fun to listen to. And
it's meant for podcasters so we
2:03:33
can pull clips. This is the
house science. Oh, I'm sorry
2:03:39
that the House representative,
the House Science Committee,
2:03:42
they had a hearing on
California's train emissions.
2:03:48
Train. Yes. Because trains have
emissions, you know, trains,
2:03:52
electricity emissions is carbon
man. And so this is
2:03:58
representative McCormack from
Hmm. I don't know where he's
2:04:04
from, but doesn't matter. So
he's grilling this poor sap?
2:04:10
Who's they're trying to say, you
know, talk about the emissions.
2:04:13
Oh, boy, oh, we can't have
trains. They're not even that
2:04:16
great boat can have trains
because, you know, carbon heat
2:04:19
dome.
2:04:19
Unknown: Mr. McCormick, you're
recognized for five minutes.
2:04:21
Thank you, Mr. Minister. You
just brought up an interesting
2:04:23
point about the ocean rising.
How much is it risen in the last
2:04:26
50 years?
2:04:29
I'll have to get back with you
on that. Congressman,
2:04:32
not not significant amount of
obviously 50 years. Since 1970.
2:04:37
What's the carbon emissions? The
carbon content to the
2:04:40
atmosphere? Is it greater or
less than what it was? 1970?
2:04:44
Could you repeat that question
and carbon content carbon
2:04:47
dioxide levels in the United in
the entire Earth atmosphere? Was
2:04:50
it greater or less than it
wasn't 1970
2:04:53
I would say greater. You
2:04:55
care to state that bet money on
that.
2:04:58
I'll let you know answer answer
the question, either that I'm
2:05:02
right or wrong. Okay?
2:05:04
And what percent is atmosphere
is carbon as made up of carbon
2:05:08
dioxide per se?
2:05:10
It's a little over 400 parts per
billion.
2:05:13
So point zero. 4% right? That
how much comes from human
2:05:16
beings? By 11% About how much
comes from the United States 14%
2:05:25
of that how much comes from
trains? And United States? Point
2:05:29
5%. So, we're talking about
eliminating point 0000 3% of the
2:05:39
Earth's atmosphere, carbon
dioxide. That's what we're
2:05:42
talking about. Is that a
negligible effect when it is
2:05:44
compared to nitrogen? 71%? Yes,
thank you. So I love science.
2:05:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's
how we need to look at this
2:05:54
stuff. But oh, no, it's going to
kill us all. Well,
2:05:58
John C Dvorak: they had that one
congressional hearing where they
2:06:01
asked a bunch of people what was
the percent? Well, how much
2:06:03
percent carbon dioxide is in the
atmosphere? People think 30% Do
2:06:08
you ever would get weren't even
close? It's point oh, 4% is
2:06:12
hardly any and what I learned
here is that the and that guy by
2:06:15
the way, said parts per billion
its parts per million per
2:06:18
million.
2:06:20
Adam Curry: Well, when you get
down to it, then it's parts per
2:06:22
billion. When he when it's the
percentage of the trains is
2:06:25
parts per billion because your
know the 1000 million? I think
2:06:29
1000 Milk Yeah. 0.0004%. That's
4% per billion, four parts per
2:06:39
billion
2:06:39
John C Dvorak: think
gaslighting.
2:06:41
Adam Curry: I love science.
Thank you. Thanks. Thank you to
2:06:44
our producer David, who came
across a peer reviewed published
2:06:50
paper in the January 2024 volume
of global ecology and comm
2:06:56
conservation. This is a very
hefty document. It's in the show
2:07:01
notes. Of course, I'll spare you
the boring academic details.
2:07:03
Because you know, these are
people who know how to read this
2:07:06
stuff. That's who our producers
are. The nutshell of this is
2:07:10
that in the latest series of
papers that claim to have
2:07:11
detected the global greening
trend over the past couple of
2:07:14
decades with an extra leafage
equivalent to the total area of
2:07:18
1.4 times that of the contiguous
United States now covering
2:07:22
Earth. Furthermore, the trend
shows signs of acceleration,
2:07:26
correlating the greening with
multiple time series. The
2:07:30
authors found that this trend
was most correlated with
2:07:32
increased co2 levels, followed
by changes to air temperature.
2:07:37
How about that?
2:07:39
John C Dvorak: It was a guy on
one of the it was on NPR some
2:07:43
years ago that went on and on
about his he had greenhouses and
2:07:48
he had been pumping extra co2
into them to get these things
2:07:53
get to plant plants in the
greenhouse to go nuts. Plants
2:07:58
need carbon dioxide,
2:08:00
Adam Curry: not just plants, but
you know sir Jean, he has
2:08:02
snakes. He has two snakes I
think one is 17 feet and the
2:08:08
other one is small one about
seven feet and they're in his
2:08:11
house and he usually has the
carbon dioxide levels in his
2:08:15
house up to about 12 or 1400
parts per million he says the
2:08:20
snakes love it he's meant
there's a whole community you
2:08:25
know more co2 community there's
that newsletters and secret meet
2:08:29
up more
2:08:30
John C Dvorak: co2. Yeah, we
don't have enough now we don't
2:08:32
know if it drops below like I
think three I think I think 260
2:08:41
We got everything. We die.
Exactly.
2:08:44
Adam Curry: Huh. Makes you
wonder why they want it to go
2:08:47
down. And of course more
gaslighting in California with
2:08:50
the climate ism
2:08:51
Unknown: two months early fire
season has ignited in California
2:08:55
dry conditions and high winds
are fueling the flames making it
2:08:58
difficult for firefighters to
contain the blaze
2:09:01
and we have two and a half years
of unburned fuel and a lot of
2:09:03
places because we haven't had a
big major fire over the last
2:09:06
couple of seasons we've had them
just bumping off but not to this
2:09:09
size
2:09:10
to post fire has been burning
since Saturday, so far scorching
2:09:13
56,000 square kilometers forcing
evacuations with only 25% of the
2:09:19
blades contained.
2:09:20
So you can see our number one
Nemesis is when that wind is
2:09:24
really whipping up there even
worse than it is right here. So
2:09:27
that's really what is the
biggest challenge right now.
2:09:30
As you can see behind me, the
fire destroyed this car along
2:09:33
with other structures in the
town of Gorman about 100
2:09:36
kilometers north of Los Angeles.
Luckily, no one has died.
2:09:40
California has seen a surge in
fires in recent years making it
2:09:44
difficult to insure some homes.
Scientists say human caused
2:09:47
climate change is worsening
these extreme weather events and
2:09:51
now a dangerous heat wave is
gripping much of the Western US
2:09:55
but probably
2:09:55
across the West. This heatwave
will probably mark the start of
2:09:58
increased a fire activity it is
still early in the season so
2:10:02
vegetation has not approaching
its peak seasonal dryness that
2:10:06
would typically occur sometime
between August and October
2:10:09
depending on where you are. So
the fire risk will be
2:10:11
increasing. The
2:10:13
fire extends beyond California
in New Mexico to wildfires rage,
2:10:17
triggering evacuations and
confirming an early start to a
2:10:21
devastating fire season.
2:10:23
Adam Curry: Ah, that's France 24
In case you're wondering about
2:10:26
that read? Yeah, I
2:10:27
John C Dvorak: was wondering as
a matter of fact,
2:10:30
Adam Curry: they got a new dude
in there. Yeah, I think he also
2:10:33
doubles the w's what is it?
There'll be
2:10:41
John C Dvorak: no Oh, no. Pencil
next.
2:10:45
Adam Curry: So of course, you
know, they haven't had a good
2:10:47
fire in two years. So yeah, no
wonder no forest management but
2:10:51
okay,
2:10:51
John C Dvorak: there's no forest
that yeah, we used to manage
2:10:54
this stuff. And I don't know
what they took the money away
2:10:57
from it. I guess? Because of
global warming. I don't know.
2:11:01
It's just the whole thing seems
like a setup.
2:11:03
Adam Curry: Well, we're getting
ready for cop 29 That's why the
2:11:06
stories have to increase with
this is the big cop, where we're
2:11:09
finally going to figure out how
we're going to finance it all.
2:11:12
How we're gonna pay what
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: Where's this one
taking? What private airplane?
2:11:17
Hangar nearby is this taking?
What Where did all these climate
2:11:21
guys have to fly on their
private jets to this time? It's
2:11:25
for the cop?
2:11:26
Adam Curry: It's a fan favorite.
It is basically the Casa Blanca
2:11:30
of the Middle East. Baku. Okay,
remember Baku? Baku is like,
2:11:38
awesomely remembered
2:11:39
John C Dvorak: by KU. I noticed
they've finally taken it out of
2:11:41
Europe. Because they've one time
they was in Holland, I think or
2:11:45
someplace where it just happened
to be a fluke. It was snowing.
2:11:49
Today was during the show era.
2:11:51
Adam Curry: Baku is I mean,
that's. I mean, that's you might
2:11:54
as well do it in Dubai. Yeah,
it's hot. But no, but it's also
2:11:58
nice. It's nice. It's you know,
you got all kinds of amenities
2:12:02
that are cool. If you're doing,
you know, big needled. But of
2:12:06
course we don't I mean, it's not
just the the fires is not just
2:12:10
the heat dome. No, no, it's also
the tropical glaciers forget
2:12:13
about Ukraine.
2:12:14
Unknown: And if there was then a
two degrees rise in
2:12:18
temperatures, what could that
mean? Well,
2:12:20
it's and thank you very much for
having me. You know, this is in
2:12:24
a way the third kind of crisis
that's happening right now. It
2:12:30
can be very difficult to focus
on this. Russia's full scale
2:12:34
invasion of Ukraine, but the
reality so
2:12:36
Adam Curry: the minute she says
that it's just the third crisis,
2:12:40
because of course, we had the
full scale invasion of Ukraine.
2:12:43
That means she's here to deliver
talking points. By
2:12:47
John C Dvorak: the way, she
sounds exactly like that woman
2:12:50
from that used to be running NPR
that talks about advertising.
2:12:55
She got that same voice. Yes.
She does.
2:12:58
Unknown: It can be very
difficult to focus on this with
2:13:00
Gaza with rushes full scale. And
2:13:03
Adam Curry: now you drive me
crazy. Let's listen to it. In
2:13:08
PR, advertising, okay. You
always have a problem. Oh, this
2:13:19
is the one I think you
2:13:20
John C Dvorak: know, I do this
the mess of your show. As you're
2:13:25
very good at it.
2:13:27
Adam Curry: Underwriting Oh,
man,
2:13:30
John C Dvorak: advertising,
whatever you want to call it.
2:13:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that's
what you that's what you think
2:13:37
it will be? Whatever you want.
Oh, heck, thank you. Okay, let's
2:13:43
listen. Let's go to the to this
lady. First. You shouldn't
2:13:47
Unknown: have Ukraine. But the
reality is this crisis is going
2:13:50
on right now. Okay,
2:13:51
moving on to money. How are NPRs
corporate underwriting revenues
2:13:55
holding up in the recession? And
what about foundation grants
2:14:00
to different stories?
Underwriting is underwriting is
2:14:06
is down. It's down for everybody
2:14:08
with Gaza with Russia's full
scale invasion of Ukraine. But
2:14:11
the reality is this.
2:14:12
Adam Curry: I mean, this is this
is the kind of kind of
2:14:15
Unknown: crisis is going on
right now.
2:14:17
John C Dvorak: And the EQ is
different. So the same cadence,
2:14:20
it's the same lady
2:14:21
Unknown: this is going on right
now. It will indeed be
2:14:25
irreversible parts of it are
right now already. There's a
2:14:29
very good chance for example,
that the West Antarctic Ice
2:14:33
Sheet has already tipped, but we
can slip jump,
2:14:37
Adam Curry: the West End Arctic
ice sheet has tipped, it's
2:14:40
followed hip, it's fallen over.
It's too if
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: Trump gets in
they won't have to pay taxes.
2:14:46
Unknown: Antarctic ice sheet has
already tipped but we can slow
2:14:50
it down so that we're probably
looking at maybe three meters of
2:14:54
sea level rise that we can no
longer
2:14:56
what three meters
2:14:59
Adam Curry: were made. they'd be
looking at three meters of sea
2:15:01
level rise. When is this going
to happen? Lady stop,
2:15:06
Unknown: but we may be able to
stretch it out to 800 or 1000
2:15:09
years. Oh,
2:15:12
Adam Curry: is that what the
model says in 800 to 1000 years
2:15:15
is going to be okay?
2:15:18
Unknown: Glaciers especially
tropical glaciers are
2:15:20
disappearing incredibly quickly
right now. And Venezuela lost
2:15:26
its last glacier la corona
glacier sometime in the past
2:15:29
year. And so these have
inevitable consequences for
2:15:33
humans just this morning. The
group se mod which is an
2:15:38
international organization
focused on the Himalayas advise
2:15:43
the countries in that region to
prepare for drought this year
2:15:46
because snow is at a record low
amount in River Basin such as
2:15:51
the induce and so this is
ongoing it's sort of the slow
2:15:55
crisis but the inevitable crisis
inevitable we have to focus on
2:15:59
and that we can still prevent
the worst of if we can stick to
2:16:02
1.5 degrees but unfortunately
we're not on that track in any
2:16:06
way shape or form right now.
2:16:07
Adam Curry: I think 1000 years
we could you know, what was take
2:16:10
a gamble
2:16:12
John C Dvorak: was taking the is
the isn't slow crisis as a term
2:16:18
an oxymoron
2:16:20
Adam Curry: Oh, slow
2:16:21
John C Dvorak: crisis that's a
2:16:22
Adam Curry: very good point.
Yeah, a crisis is something that
2:16:26
happens kind of immediately.
2:16:28
John C Dvorak: You have it's a
crisis it's a crisis Run Run get
2:16:31
hair on fire. Yeah, but no point
oh crisis. What is that it is
2:16:36
bullcrap term this is like the
bull crap turn about term about
2:16:43
cheap fake same thing. This is
what we're getting a lot of
2:16:46
these gaslighting terms a
2:16:47
Adam Curry: minute she was done
with the interview all buddies
2:16:49
calls it oh man, you're buying
at Baku. You're buying drinks.
2:16:53
Good one. Slow crisis. Slow
crisis. Good one. Luckily the
2:16:59
European Union is fixing it's
the
2:17:01
Unknown: culmination of a long
battle within the European Union
2:17:05
long
2:17:05
John C Dvorak: battle.
2:17:06
Unknown: That's that's that's
really a relief.
2:17:09
environment ministers from the
blocks 27 countries meeting in
2:17:13
Luxembourg have backed the
nature restoration plan. Finland
2:17:17
Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands,
Poland and Sweden voted against
2:17:20
it. But Belgium abstained. And
after opposing the text in
2:17:24
March, Germany, this time voted
in favor of the legislation,
2:17:28
meaning it can now pass into law
following months of setbacks.
2:17:33
The plan requires member states
to introduce measures restoring
2:17:36
nature on a fifth of their land
and sea side 2030.
2:17:40
This is ownCloud Singh knio Does
it's a clear signal that the
2:17:43
protection of the environment
and nature is important for our
2:17:46
future threatens the existence
of a soul for agriculture and
2:17:50
for forestry. It's therefore
also a sign of better protection
2:17:54
for our population shorts on
xaba. Fogle is
2:17:57
the voter just enough support to
pass with Austria's environment
2:18:00
minister to find her
conservative coalition partners
2:18:03
by pledging to back the policy
because she said the health and
2:18:07
happiness Raider generations is
at stake. My
2:18:10
decision to support this law has
been intensely debated. I know I
2:18:15
will face opposition in Austria
on this but I'm convinced that
2:18:19
this is the time to adopt this
law. Austrian
2:18:22
Chancellor Khan their hammer
promptly responded that his
2:18:25
government would file a
complaint at the European court
2:18:28
against the quote, unlawful
vote.
2:18:31
Adam Curry: This is exactly what
the farmers in the Netherlands
2:18:33
and France what they all
protested against. Is this oh
2:18:37
no, no, we have to get rid of
cows and get rid of farms. It
2:18:40
just has to be nature just has
to be nature. Now I was walking
2:18:44
with Christina and Rotterdam.
They got plenty of nature in the
2:18:47
city is great and there's no
farm. No cows, you need to get
2:18:51
rid of this perfect. And it's
getting very green because of
2:18:55
all the co2. And why I wonder if
they're panic. It's a slow panic
2:19:00
for them. final clip. I saved
this one for last. It's for you.
2:19:06
It looks like even though
they've had some problems. They
2:19:10
will be raising money to fix
your potholes. The pothole
2:19:15
problem is going to be fixed in
California
2:19:18
Unknown: with more than 30
million registered passenger
2:19:20
vehicles in California. The
state says it shows up more than
2:19:24
$8 billion a year to maintain
the roads those cars drive on.
2:19:29
Much of that cost is paid for
money collected here at the pump
2:19:33
from gas taxes. But because so
many Californians now own
2:19:37
electric vehicles, that gas tax
money is starting to dry up
2:19:41
potentially 10 years from now
we'll see a $4.4 billion loss in
2:19:47
revenue because of these issues,
which
2:19:49
is why Caltrans wants to instead
charge drivers per mile and is
2:19:53
now enrolling people in a six
month pilot program to test out
2:19:57
the concept
2:19:58
and what's unique about this
pilot is This time we will need
2:20:01
collecting actual revenue from
participants.
2:20:03
So why would you participate in
a program that charges you about
2:20:07
three cents for every mile you
drive. Caltrans says it will
2:20:11
waive gas tax fees and give
participants up to $400. Drivers
2:20:16
would track their miles by
taking a photo of their odometer
2:20:19
or using a transponder placed in
their car. Big concerns about
2:20:24
being tracked any
2:20:25
data that's shared is totally
the control of the participant
2:20:30
they choose how much data the
data is processed by our account
2:20:35
manager and it does not come to
Caltrans all the Caltrans and
2:20:39
fee is the number of miles not
going to ever see your location
2:20:43
information. If
2:20:44
you'd like to participate in the
pilot program, you can sign up
2:20:47
on Caltrans website. Now
participants will be charged to
2:20:50
different rates, some will be
charged a flat rate per mile and
2:20:53
others will be charged based on
the fuel efficiency of their
2:20:57
vehicle. That's
2:20:58
Adam Curry: the tricky bit in
there. So you will be charged
2:21:01
based upon the few how's that
old Lexus doing on fuel
2:21:04
efficiency? I get about
2:21:10
John C Dvorak: I think get about
90 miles per gallon on that
2:21:12
thing.
2:21:13
Adam Curry: That's pretty good.
But it's no Eevee pretty good.
2:21:16
That's pretty good. But it's no
Evie.
2:21:18
John C Dvorak: No, no, I mean,
you'd be getting if you're a
2:21:21
hybrid. It's amazing. 5060 miles
per gallon is amazing. What
2:21:25
Adam Curry: they're doing there
in California really is
2:21:27
John C Dvorak: oh yeah, this is
it. By the way. If they had if
2:21:30
they had all this pothole money
before the Eevee showed up at
2:21:34
home, why aren't their potholes
fixed? This is bullcrap. I like
2:21:38
lies. This is gaslighting. This
is the theme of today's show
2:21:41
gaslighting.
2:21:43
Adam Curry: I got a pothole
money. JC de ain't happy.
2:21:49
pothole money. There's a hip hop
song in there somewhere.
2:21:54
John C Dvorak: pothole money.
Yeah. Let's go well, I got some
2:21:58
interesting this. How about
doing a pothole money elder
2:22:03
bliss I got gazes building nukes
and so he's out of the news a
2:22:07
little bit. Want to get these? I
want to get these clips out of
2:22:11
the way because it's about
Hunter Biden's verdict be it's
2:22:16
from the Heritage Foundation had
an expert come on one of the
2:22:19
shows. I think it's NTD and
discuss the what's actually
2:22:23
going on, which is that you
know, cuz I watched John
2:22:26
Stewart. And it's like, oh, you
know, everybody's Even Steven,
2:22:30
because Oh, yeah, Trump got, you
know, maybe political but
2:22:32
they'll go they did the Hunter
Biden. Because you have found
2:22:36
guilty and he's not going to be
pardoned. Which is unlikely. So
2:22:40
here we are. I want to play
these two clips. There's only
2:22:42
two of them's H F. Hunter Biden.
2:22:44
Unknown: We're joined now by
Mike Howell, the executive
2:22:46
director of the oversight
project at the Heritage
2:22:49
Foundation. Mike on Tuesday, the
jury in the hunter Biden's
2:22:53
federal criminal case, found
Hunter guilty on all three of
2:22:56
the charges that he faced. What
was your initial reaction when
2:23:00
you learn this guilty verdict?
Yeah, not
2:23:01
surprised whatsoever who was
born a night wasn't born and
2:23:04
last night and the fix has been
in for some time here. I mean, I
2:23:09
really worried that the
propaganda media is going to
2:23:12
play this as a both sides thing.
They're going to basically say
2:23:14
at the high level, oh my gosh,
Hunter was held accountable. And
2:23:16
that's what's happening to Trump
and then when they're
2:23:18
categorically different things,
degree and kinds and
2:23:21
implications. What's happening
with with Hunter, is,
2:23:25
essentially they pick the lowest
level thing that didn't connect
2:23:28
to Joe the thing they could
paint into the light of
2:23:30
addiction in a sympathetic light
as as a means to absolve him for
2:23:33
guilt and everything else. What
the American people really care
2:23:36
about what I care about is, you
know, not that Hunter was a
2:23:38
crackhead. Not a crackhead that
got his dead brother's wife
2:23:42
addicted to crack cocaine. She's
one who found the gun and got
2:23:44
rid of it. All that's in
material. What's material is the
2:23:47
corruption in the federal
government that Joe Biden and
2:23:50
his family running an
international pay to play
2:23:53
influencing peddling scheme and
some of the most corrupt regions
2:23:55
of the world to include Ukraine
and the CCP, you know, our
2:23:58
enemies in the CCP and other
corrupt regions.
2:24:02
Adam Curry: Have you ever met a
crackhead?
2:24:06
John C Dvorak: Ah, I know. I bet
a guy that eventually became a
2:24:12
crackhead. But I don't know that
I've ever met an active
2:24:16
crackhead. Did you?
2:24:17
Adam Curry: Yes. Just this week.
You know, Christina has. She
2:24:21
went to school and she's now a
social worker in a I think they
2:24:25
have 3030 people in this house
and they are adults. I think
2:24:32
it's all male, middle age. Like
40 to 70 from middle age and
2:24:38
above. And they either have like
mental issues or drug addictions
2:24:42
but most of both, and this one
guy. He was a crack addict. He
2:24:47
was quite entertaining. Now he
he's also agenda.
2:24:53
John C Dvorak: What? Oh, yeah.
We have crackheads listening to
2:24:57
our show. We have the
unbelievably wide fire shoe,
2:25:00
which is another reason that we
couldn't take advertise. It's
2:25:04
really
2:25:04
Adam Curry: true. I don't want
to say his name, but he's great.
2:25:07
He was quite interesting. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. He's very,
2:25:13
you know, punter may have been a
very fun guy to hang out with
2:25:17
when he was on crack.
2:25:18
John C Dvorak: This was some
people think he's up for his
2:25:20
missing teeth. Well, yeah. Oh,
2:25:22
Adam Curry: yeah, no, there's
definitely that the dental
2:25:25
hygiene is not great with the
cracks.
2:25:28
John C Dvorak: So basically,
it's a it's an accurate smoke
2:25:32
that just basically eats away at
everything
2:25:35
Adam Curry: does. It is not
good. It's not an outstanding
2:25:38
product people. I'm not
endorsing it.
2:25:42
Unknown: Part two, what happened
in this this arc, starting from
2:25:46
a year ago, and we're in federal
court, they were trying to send
2:25:48
federal court by the way that he
just got convicted. And David
2:25:51
Weiss, the prosecutors and
prosecutor here, tried to give
2:25:55
Hunter a plea deal, say you
know, accept liability for the
2:25:58
gun and tax stuff, and will
pardon you for all this other
2:26:01
stuff that connects back to Joe
and the corruption that the
2:26:04
American people are upset with.
We sniffed that out, got it
2:26:06
blown up. And so here they are
back at the drawing board today,
2:26:09
convicting him of the gun
charge, but still no mouse
2:26:13
movements on the things that
American people care about. And
2:26:15
what this sets up for. Not only
is the misinformation that like
2:26:18
the law is being applied evenly
in this country, but for a
2:26:22
portion of Hunter, they pick the
sympathetic thing that you can't
2:26:27
or you can wrap an addiction and
all those things and you cannot
2:26:29
connect to Joe. And it's up Joe
for a part in the punter a part
2:26:33
in that will not only be for
this charge, but for all the
2:26:37
things connected not only back
to Joe and his family, but the
2:26:40
thing I'm even more concerned
about in the Biden's is the
2:26:43
intelligence community and law
enforcement who sat there and
2:26:46
watched this corruption
happening in plain sight. Not
2:26:48
only did nothing but hit it, and
then used every tool the
2:26:52
disposal of the awesome force of
the US government and even some
2:26:55
other governments to go after
President Trump which they're
2:26:57
still doing today. And so this
is not a both sides thing. This
2:27:00
is corruption.
2:27:02
Adam Curry: Okay, that's
actually a good analysis. So
2:27:05
they can you can pardon him from
everything all crimes. Close the
2:27:10
book on the Biden's so
2:27:11
John C Dvorak: you do it's how
you do it. These guys are not
2:27:13
stupid. No, they're
2:27:14
Adam Curry: they're doing a good
job. Okay, here's another thing
2:27:18
I do when you delve into this is
this, this I think we're at
2:27:23
level gaslighting on this Boeing
thing as well. Now remember,
2:27:26
there's only two real
manufacturers have any merit
2:27:30
when it comes to commercial
aircraft Airbus and, and Boeing.
2:27:36
Both are huge defense
contractors. So there's got to
2:27:41
be I'm now thinking that
Congress is sending a big
2:27:46
message to Boeing saying you
need to donate more money.
2:27:51
Because this is really I mean,
the coincidence of yet another
2:27:56
whistleblower showing up just
before the latest hearing with
2:28:00
the CEO. Listen to this
interview with Blumenthal, who I
2:28:05
don't like anyway. Oh my gosh,
terrible. She listened to how
2:28:09
she pronounces his name.
2:28:10
Unknown: We've got breaking news
for you this morning. A current
2:28:12
Boeing employee is accusing the
airplane manufacturer of cutting
2:28:16
corners. This latest
whistleblower came for an hours
2:28:20
before Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun,
will be grilled on Capitol Hill
2:28:24
today. And they are of course
growing questions over the
2:28:27
safety of Boeing's aircraft,
which is why he is speaking to
2:28:31
those on the Hill Democratic
Senator Richard Blumenthal
2:28:34
chairs the subcommittee.
2:28:36
She says Blumenthal
2:28:39
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know why I like it. She
2:28:41
corrects yourself later. So
Blumenthal is doing the
2:28:44
interview here. He's about to
grill the CEO and a new
2:28:47
whistleblower shows up what are
the chances
2:28:50
Unknown: to those on the Hill
Democratic Senator Richard
2:28:52
broomwade. Before he
2:28:53
John C Dvorak: say that don't
have a clip. But I did watch
2:28:57
this. And it was Hallie, who's a
great show boater big time who
2:29:02
went who really dug into the
amount of money that the CEO is
2:29:07
making 36 million
2:29:09
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, it
was 33 it was 32.8 33 million
2:29:13
which of course is
2:29:14
John C Dvorak: well, it was
still it was the way he was
2:29:19
brought up to stasis. Yeah, the
way he was digging into the guys
2:29:23
money. It was like, you know,
you making an awful lot of
2:29:27
money. Where is our cut? And I'm
2:29:29
Adam Curry: looking at open
secrets. And they Boeing has
2:29:33
only spent in 2024 2.9. Well,
$2.94 million.
2:29:45
John C Dvorak: That's not even
10% of the guys salary. Exactly.
2:29:49
Where's your tight? Dude, we
needed 6 million for me. Where's
2:29:54
Adam Curry: your tithing? Look,
listen to the numbers we've got
2:29:59
for the democratic country. A
Democrat, Democratic
2:30:02
Congressional Campaign Committee
210,000 for the Democrat
2:30:08
Senatorial Campaign Committee
210,000 for the National
2:30:13
Republican Congressional
Committee to win a 10,000 The
2:30:16
National Republican Senatorial
Committee 210,000 nothing to buy
2:30:20
nothing. Oh, wait 10,000 to the
DNC Services Corporation, Tim
2:30:29
Kaine Democrat got 10 grand, and
Nikki Hey, and Nikki got nothing
2:30:35
Mark Warner got nothing. So this
is all a lot of Nothing's here,
2:30:39
including Biden and Trump, at
least not so far. I think
2:30:44
they're there. I think this is a
shakedown. Like you're right,
2:30:48
you make $33 million. You've
given $2.9 million dollars.
2:30:52
What's
2:30:53
John C Dvorak: the corporation?
Where's your individual? You
2:30:55
have to look him up individually
see if he gave any money.
2:30:59
Adam Curry: What's his name?
2:31:00
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Calhoun. Calhoun's Yep. I don't
2:31:04
know his first name. You have to
look it up. I'll find but
2:31:07
whatever the case, I think,
yeah, Shakedown. It. This is an
2:31:10
extortion game and they're
trying to humiliate the guy.
2:31:14
Yeah, doing it pretty well. In
on this thesis completely.
2:31:18
Unknown: To those on the hill,
Democratic Senator Richard
2:31:20
Blumenthal chairs the
subcommittee holding today's
2:31:23
Boeing hearing. He joins me now.
Thank you so much, sir, for
2:31:26
coming this morning. We are all
very curious about this last
2:31:31
minute whistleblower who has
come forward, you magically
2:31:34
spoke to him? What did you learn
from him from this new
2:31:37
whistleblower?
2:31:38
This whistleblower Sam Mohawk is
one of a dozen who have come to
2:31:43
us in recent months, and his
allegations are extraordinarily
2:31:46
serious. He is saying that
Boeing used non conforming
2:31:51
parts, those are parts that are
defective or damaged or
2:31:56
undocumented and Miss tracked in
airplanes, installing them, and
2:32:01
then lying to the FAA, about how
it was storing those non
2:32:07
conforming parts. This kind of
violation of trust is part of a
2:32:13
pattern of broken safety
culture. at Boeing, the company
2:32:19
promised it would turn around
that safety culture after the
2:32:23
two crashes that occurred in
2018. And 2019. There was a
2:32:27
deferred prosecution as you
trumped it that, by the way,
2:32:31
recall, on the condition that
Boeing, in effect, improve its
2:32:36
performance on safety and
reliability. But, you know,
2:32:40
ultimately, we should want
Boeing to succeed. It's come
2:32:45
Adam Curry: trust me, dude, we
really want you to do well, Dave
2:32:47
Calhoun, but you got to pony up.
I
2:32:50
Unknown: mean, that is key to
our economy, and to aircraft
2:32:53
manufacturing is one of me.
Yeah, exactly. Major aircraft
2:32:58
manufacturers in the world. I
want to help it regain trust by
2:33:02
facing the facts and the facts
are very bluntly, and deeply
2:33:08
alarmingly, that Boeing has
failed to comply with the
2:33:12
conditions that it promised it
would. And
2:33:15
Adam Curry: absent from actually
I have a little bit of the
2:33:18
Boeing's. I have a report here,
absent as far as I could tell,
2:33:21
unless you saw I don't see poot
Buttigieg Pete Buttigieg
2:33:25
anywhere. Is he in there? Is he
being grilled about the I mean,
2:33:29
ultimately, it falls under his
in his port of failure, is it
2:33:34
not? Isn't?
2:33:36
John C Dvorak: It would be his
apartment, he headed Department
2:33:39
of Transportation. He's a he's
in charge of the FAA Grilli.
2:33:42
Well, he doesn't he can't pony
up any money so
2:33:46
Adam Curry: instead, Jane Pauley
does puff pieces of him and
2:33:48
Chaston in their kids at home
cooking pancakes, which is not a
2:33:53
good luck when your planes are
falling out of the sky.
2:33:59
Unknown: met by chance of shame
as he entered the hearing room.
2:34:02
Boeing jail David Calhoun
quickly apologized to the
2:34:05
families of those who died in
two Max eight crashes overseas.
2:34:13
And promised Boeing is changing
our culture
2:34:16
is far from perfect. But we are
taking action and we are making
2:34:20
progress which Calhoun
2:34:22
came under immediate bipartisan
fire
2:34:24
this year. That's is the moment
of wreck there it is for
2:34:28
the max age crashes to max nine
door plug blowout in January
2:34:32
quality control breakdowns,
defective parts and
2:34:35
whistleblower reports of
falsified documents intimidation
2:34:39
and retaliation. It appears
2:34:40
that Boeing has fostered a
culture that censors people who
2:34:44
tried to speak up and help
You're the
2:34:46
Adam Curry: problem. And I just
hope to God that you don't
2:34:49
destroy this company before it
can be saved.
2:34:51
Unknown: Today. A new
whistleblower claims Boeing 737
2:34:54
Max assembly line lost hundreds
of parts that did not meet
2:34:58
Boeing specs which he can claims
were hidden from FAA inspectors
2:35:02
and may have ended up in planes
and that it could lead to a
2:35:06
catastrophic event.
2:35:07
I have not directly spoken to
any of the whistleblowers. Do
2:35:10
you think that'd be a good idea
to do that? Yeah, I think it
2:35:13
would,
2:35:13
Tom, the Justice Department
could still charge Boeing and
2:35:16
the CEO. Yeah, prosecutors
2:35:18
have until July 7 to decide. But
Boeing is critical to the
2:35:21
national economy, the space
program, national defense. So
2:35:25
the government has a lot to
weigh in deciding whether to
2:35:27
file charges. National Defense,
2:35:30
Adam Curry: you know, that could
also be an angle. Someone's
2:35:32
trying to lean on him. Maybe
someone else wants to get in on
2:35:37
their defense action, build some
different plenty of military
2:35:41
planes. Anything's possible. But
this is a shakedown of some
2:35:44
sort. This is, this is not
something
2:35:47
John C Dvorak: of some sort,
just a shakedown period. It's
2:35:49
not any particularly different
kind of ShakeDown in these guys
2:35:53
do. All you have to do is look
at their net worth of all these
2:35:56
people that are in Congress,
when they got in what they were
2:35:59
worth and then what they got
became worth like, six years
2:36:03
later on a pretty kind of a
modest salary. Somehow, they
2:36:09
became worth a fortune.
2:36:12
Adam Curry: Almost all of them.
How about Josh Hawley?
2:36:16
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Holly's
right up there with him. He's
2:36:18
one of the best of the group in
terms of like, of showboating up
2:36:23
but in Congress. I mean, I find
it very entertaining. He's
2:36:26
really good at it. But I'm sure
Josh Holly's got some bookstore
2:36:31
and they all do is and they said
it was nonpartisan. That's a
2:36:33
giveaway. World.
2:36:36
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because
they're they're definitely not
2:36:37
doing it for our safety. Let's
be honest. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
2:36:43
We want to make sure people fly
safe. We want Boeing to succeed.
2:36:47
That's what they're saying. We
weren't
2:36:48
John C Dvorak: willing to do
they want him to succeed, but
2:36:50
they want their cut.
2:36:53
Adam Curry: How much you make
him dude. 33 million. And you
2:36:57
gave us 2.9 accredited only half
of that went to us. It's
2:37:03
cynical, but I think there's
something to it. I like it.
2:37:07
John C Dvorak: The way I don't
have any argument against the
2:37:10
thesis, that's gotta be what it
is. Of course, I have a couple
2:37:15
couple of clips. I wanted to get
out of the way again, more
2:37:18
Hunter hanging Earth. This is
Robert Reich.
2:37:22
Adam Curry: Talks about this,
you got to explain who Robert
2:37:25
Reich is this guy. What Nink
Robert Reich is
2:37:29
John C Dvorak: the former labor
secretary under Clinton, he's a
2:37:32
professor at Cal. And he's a
left wing stooge. And he does a
2:37:37
podcast. Oh, with with his
mistress, with some woman,
2:37:42
whatever. I don't know. We don't
know that. We don't know that.
2:37:47
Well, that's tricky, right? I
never asked her pronouns either.
2:37:50
But and he wears his He's like,
he's a professor and he's
2:37:54
professorial on his end he wears
this raggedy ass t shirt is like
2:37:59
a like a beat up old one that's
in the commercial with this old
2:38:03
beat up and it gets embarrassed
to be at a restaurant wearing
2:38:05
and he's that's what he wears on
his podcast and I find it to be
2:38:09
like off putting
2:38:10
Adam Curry: this Why Does he
even have to be on video with
2:38:12
the podcast? Just do an audio
video
2:38:14
John C Dvorak: and he dances a
little bit when he does a little
2:38:16
thing at the beginning where
they play their little intro
2:38:19
music,
2:38:19
Adam Curry: the name of this
podcast again. I have to get the
2:38:23
name but whatever
2:38:24
John C Dvorak: the case is
Robert, you just look up Robert
2:38:26
Wright podcast. Thank
2:38:27
Adam Curry: you. Thank you for
the search tip.
2:38:29
John C Dvorak: Cool. Well, I
have coffee. It will be the tip
2:38:33
that could be used that coffee
2:38:36
Adam Curry: ship. It's the name
of the show is coffee clutch.
2:38:40
John C Dvorak: Clutch clutch
caca flash. Yeah.
2:38:44
Adam Curry: And he spelled with
a K Yes. Que la tch Coffee
2:38:48
Klatch? I'm all for clams. I'm
Robert Reich.
2:38:51
John C Dvorak: So he has his his
normal talking points. And he's
2:38:55
part of the group of every
Democrat there is going after
2:38:59
our Supreme Court, especially
Clarence Thomas. Yes. And so
2:39:03
they they just put this stuff
out there to just part of the
2:39:07
whole situation they get, you
know, Alioto Elliott, not out,
2:39:11
Alito, Alito and Thomas are
under fire. At least God used to
2:39:16
be the mayor of San Francisco,
and Alito and Thomas are targets
2:39:23
because of this upcoming they
haven't ruled on it to finish
2:39:26
their ruling on this Chevron
deference. But that's what's to
2:39:28
come next month. We'll
2:39:29
Adam Curry: see that's cranking
up crank it up.
2:39:32
John C Dvorak: So let's play a
break.
2:39:34
Unknown: Well, what about the
Supreme Court kind of a bump
2:39:36
stock? That's it pinion.
2:39:38
So basically what happened was
the court threw out in a
2:39:42
decision led by Clarence Thomas,
a ban that would have stopped
2:39:47
this addition to a gun and made
it faster. It's why translation.
2:39:51
Wow,
2:39:52
Adam Curry: great translation.
2:39:54
Unknown: It's the right
translation. I think no, it's
2:39:57
not interesting thing to me here
is this isn't Not the Second
2:40:00
Amendment right to gun case.
This is a another example of the
2:40:06
Supreme Court of trying to erode
the legitimacy of administrative
2:40:11
agencies who are tasked with the
job of interpreting statutes. If
2:40:15
administrative agencies in the
federal government in the
2:40:17
executive branch can't interpret
statutes, then who's going to
2:40:21
interpret the statute? So
nobody? Okay,
2:40:25
Adam Curry: hold on a sec. Well,
2:40:26
John C Dvorak: I worked for an
administrative agency. When I
2:40:29
was younger, for almost a
decade, not quite. This was the
2:40:35
Chevron deference which says,
you can, you know, these
2:40:38
agencies have all this leeway
was in 1984. I worked there
2:40:41
before that even got through,
how would they were operating?
2:40:45
How were they operating before
1984. According to him, it can't
2:40:48
be done.
2:40:51
Adam Curry: I would like to
remind everybody that it was
2:40:53
Trump, during the Trump
administration that the bump
2:40:56
stocks were banned after the
Vegas shooting, which was
2:40:59
blatantly not a bump stock,
which fires rounds much faster
2:41:04
than the belt fed machine gun
that was obviously used. I mean,
2:41:09
we, we remember, we would
disagree this, this to an
2:41:12
extreme everything. So
2:41:16
John C Dvorak: that whole was
officious thing. They never
2:41:18
really solved it. They guy who
is a gun dealer was supposedly
2:41:22
doing it. And he was dead
somehow, the whole thing that
2:41:26
whole thing was, and then I
think at the time, it came out
2:41:30
to that al Qaeda, not Al Qaeda,
but ISIS or some way along these
2:41:34
Adam Curry: MBS was roaming
around Vegas and some other
2:41:37
Saudi prince and there was we we
do not know the full story.
2:41:42
John C Dvorak: Now, this story
has never been revealed. Okay?
2:41:45
Wrap it up with this guy. So
notice that they do run right
2:41:48
after Clarence Thomas. And
they're going to do it again, of
2:41:51
course, and
2:41:52
Unknown: Thomas Intuit opinions
on this bump stock and also on
2:41:56
the National Labor Relations
Board. And Starbucks, basically
2:42:01
said the ministry of agencies
had gone beyond their, their
2:42:06
official realm of power. The
Supreme Court doesn't like
2:42:10
administrative agencies who
would like instead, but either
2:42:14
the President or Congress to
take more responsibility.
2:42:18
Honestly, Heather, this is this.
This was was so much beyond an
2:42:23
activist Supreme Court, right? I
mean, this is this is a Supreme
2:42:27
Court that is out of control.
That bump stock opinion, was,
2:42:33
was really, in the face of what
happened in Las Vegas, everybody
2:42:37
remembers what happened in Las
Vegas. How many years ago just a
2:42:41
few years ago, a few years ago,
60 I
2:42:43
think people killed 60 People
400 injured. I mean, it was big,
2:42:47
because of because the the the
shooter used a gun stock. The
2:42:51
only thing that we have done as
a country with
2:42:54
Adam Curry: John the shooter,
use the gun stock now not a bump
2:42:56
stock.
2:42:59
Unknown: Because unbelievable.
shooter used a gun stock. It's
2:43:04
the only thing that we've done
as a country to try to control
2:43:09
guns. And we can't even do this.
I know with the Supreme Court
2:43:12
and Clarence Thomas,
2:43:14
Adam Curry: I know it in a weird
way. They're kind of tying these
2:43:18
two things together. I think
this is the clip. Because the
2:43:23
two things together being the
Supreme Court, Chevron
2:43:26
deference, and oh, my Trump's
going to get rid of the entire
2:43:29
administrative state. Oh, what's
going to happen?
2:43:32
Unknown: I often talk about the
Trump hangover, the fact that
2:43:35
even when he is not in power,
there are still reminders
2:43:39
everywhere of the effect that he
had on public opinion. And these
2:43:43
attitudes about vaccines are
just one example. Oh,
2:43:47
absolutely. You
2:43:47
know what we saw a pre pandemic
to now, there has been maybe
2:43:50
this is not the clip, but let's
listen to anyone 50% increase in
2:43:53
the number of parents who think
pre pandemic to now that routine
2:43:57
childhood vaccinations like
measles, mumps, and rubella
2:43:59
should be voluntary. Just just
over the course of the last few
2:44:02
years of this spillover effect
is real spillover, and we're
2:44:06
seeing this depth of expertise
Dr. Fauci talked about a few
2:44:08
days ago, the unwillingness to
bind expertise, what does that
2:44:12
mean? We've created an unsafe
environment for people as they
2:44:15
navigate their own healthcare
journey, that they're going to
2:44:17
rely on supplements, things that
are not FDA approved, because
2:44:20
they don't believe in the FDA,
whatever it may be. So now we
2:44:23
have a bunch of individuals who
are willing to take their own
2:44:25
healthcare decisions, leveraging
the internet, or leveraging
2:44:29
their favorite podcast host.
That's not where expertise is.
2:44:33
Adam Curry: There's no expertise
here. Let's be very clear.
2:44:36
Neither John C. Dvorak, Adam
curry claimed to have any
2:44:39
expertise in anything. You might
have lived through the pandemic,
2:44:43
but we don't know anything. Or
we know nothing. Yeah, it wasn't
2:44:48
that it didn't quite connect the
way I wanted it to.
2:44:52
John C Dvorak: There was it was
still entertaining. And it's
2:44:54
interesting because what it did
point out is that there's a
2:44:56
number of these podcasts. Gal
guy, Pa I'd casts where the
2:45:02
woman throws the soft balls to
the guy and he goes on and
2:45:06
pontificates. And then she's
agreeing if you listen to the
2:45:09
other one with rights. Oh, y'all
blah, blah, blah.
2:45:12
Adam Curry: Gun stocks. Yeah,
yep. Yep. That's actually how I
2:45:17
envisioned this show that you
would just do that with me. But
2:45:19
it turned out so different.
Yeah.
2:45:22
John C Dvorak: It's hard for me
to go. Yeah, yep. I agree with
2:45:26
you two or three times today.
2:45:27
Adam Curry: I know. It's already
hard. Yeah. So finally, we're
2:45:30
gonna do Fauci is out with the
book. And he's doing the rounds.
2:45:35
Yeah, it's
2:45:36
John C Dvorak: great. I did
nothing, which puts
2:45:38
Adam Curry: him kind of puts him
in play for bird flu, although
2:45:41
there wasn't a lot of bird flu
happening the past few days. So
2:45:45
we're kind of in limbo there.
And I've several different
2:45:50
pieces. But I think the one that
is most because he was on
2:45:54
basically did the big CBS
interviews with Gail. Actually,
2:46:01
I'll play one clip from Gail
because that was kind of
2:46:04
interesting. It's almost like
he's giving Trump a pass while
2:46:08
taking credit for it.
2:46:10
Unknown: I read your book over
the weekend. And I love how you
2:46:12
started. First of all,
2:46:13
Adam Curry: that's a lie. We
know you didn't read that.
2:46:15
You're too busy pounding
ozempic. With Oprah,
2:46:18
Unknown: I read your book over
the weekend. And I love how you
2:46:20
started with Albert Borla of
Pfizer calling you to say, Tony,
2:46:24
I think we have a vaccine and I
think it works. You said your
2:46:28
debt can be yes. Borla
2:46:34
John C Dvorak: call away. Bring
ray in maybe, Fauci, Fauci, tai
2:46:40
chi, I think we got a vaccine. I
think it works that dude, you're
2:46:42
already it was already patented.
Before the whole thing took
2:46:46
place. This was a scam this
this, this interview is
2:46:49
ridiculous
2:46:51
Unknown: works. You said you
literally sort of broke down and
2:46:53
had a very emotional moment
because you didn't think this
2:46:56
would be possible that quickly?
2:46:58
No, I did not. I mean, this is
historic in what was
2:47:01
accomplished. 11 months if this
were 1015 years ago, this would
2:47:07
have taken years and years. But
the combination of the exquisite
2:47:12
science that was put in both for
the mRNA as well as for the
2:47:16
actual imaging or the business
vaccine was just amazing.
2:47:21
Because you were talking about
you're on the frontlines of
2:47:23
AIDS. And at the time, Bill
Clinton said, hopefully we'll
2:47:26
have a vaccine in 10 years. And
as you point out, we still don't
2:47:28
have an AIDS vaccine. But yet we
have this for COVID. Yeah,
2:47:31
it was an amazing scientific
accomplishment. And also, the
2:47:36
amount of effort that was put in
with Operation warp speed to get
2:47:40
millions and millions of doses
made before we even knew it
2:47:44
worked. That was very, very
helpful in getting it done so
2:47:47
quickly.
2:47:48
Adam Curry: How about that?
Isn't that interesting? Why
2:47:52
would he be out there saying
these things? When they can
2:47:56
blame everything on Trump, they
can make the Republicans hate
2:47:58
Trump. And now you say Oh, but
basically saying, Yeah, I did
2:48:01
that I took the call. I made I
made it happen.
2:48:05
John C Dvorak: So I'm going on
in the background, it also could
2:48:07
be part of the Trump getting
Trumpian.
2:48:09
Adam Curry: There was there was
kind of a to have to funny two
2:48:12
parter very short, about Trump
versus Biden, you
2:48:17
Unknown: spoke about your
relationship and write about
2:48:19
your complicated relationship
with former President Donald
2:48:22
Trump. He could possibly be our
president again. Given that you
2:48:26
know him, personally, from a
public health perspective, do
2:48:30
you believe he is fit to lead
us?
2:48:34
Adam Curry: Good, interesting
question. Is he fit to lead us
2:48:37
if
2:48:38
Unknown: he is elected
president?
2:48:39
You know, I don't want to get
into what's fit or not that I
2:48:42
want to respect the BOMA health
standpoint. He missed
2:48:47
opportunities to use the bully
pulpit of the presidency, to
2:48:51
tell people to do things that
would keep them safe.
2:48:54
Adam Curry: Now, how about
Biden, but what about Biden? Do
2:48:57
Unknown: you believe he is fit
to lead us for the next? Oh,
2:48:59
absolutely. You know, because
the first thing he did when I
2:49:02
became absolutely his chief
medical adviser, we had a
2:49:05
conversation literally the first
day saying we want to go with
2:49:08
the evidence and the truth. And
if we make a mistake, we correct
2:49:11
it. But we've got to be honest
with what's going on. Yeah, that
2:49:15
was his first words to me.
2:49:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh,
brother. All right. I'm
2:49:19
Adam Curry: gonna give you three
more their shorts. were the
2:49:21
first ones over a minute, but
the other ones are very short. I
2:49:24
know. I'm breaking all the
rules. I'm sorry. But sometimes,
2:49:27
you know, you just gotta prove
there's a rule by making an
2:49:30
exception to it. Rachel Maddow
with Fauci.
2:49:34
Unknown: It did seem the way the
way that you describe it that
2:49:37
President Trump didn't
understand some of the basics
2:49:40
about the flu and that it's a
different virus than COVID. He
2:49:43
said to you that he didn't see
why he would have to get a flu
2:49:47
shot. If he didn't have the flu.
He didn't understand that it was
2:49:49
preventative and not treatment.
That's true. He also said at
2:49:52
NIH, why can't we just use the
flu vaccine to prevent COVID?
2:49:56
Right. Do you think he does not
know what a vaccine is?
2:49:59
I think Now he you know, after
all of the things we've told
2:50:03
him, the thing that I think
underlies this, Rachael is that
2:50:08
he, he wanted it so much to be
like the flu. Because
2:50:12
historically, the flu peaks, and
it goes away in March,
2:50:16
Adam Curry: and it wasn't there
at all during COVID. April is
2:50:19
gone,
2:50:19
Unknown: and then you could go
on with the election season. But
2:50:22
it wasn't doing that it wasn't
going away. Notice
2:50:26
Adam Curry: how we slipped in
the election season there for
2:50:28
it's just, it was very
interesting. I heard that
2:50:31
before. I'm gonna roll that back
2:50:33
Unknown: peeks, and it goes away
in March, April is gone, and
2:50:37
then you could go on with the
election season,
2:50:40
Adam Curry: then you can go on
with the election cycle about
2:50:42
that. It wasn't
2:50:43
Unknown: doing that it wasn't
going away. So he kept on saying
2:50:47
it's gonna disappear like magic.
And that's when I had to start
2:50:51
saying, No, I'm sorry, but
that's not gonna happen. And I
2:50:54
had to do that publicly. And
then when that didn't work, he
2:50:58
started invoking magical cures
like hydroxychloroquine, you
2:51:02
know, and then when it became
clear, that wasn't working, he
2:51:05
brought in Scott Atlas, who told
him everything he wanted to
2:51:08
hear, and it was just wanting so
much for it to go away. And
2:51:13
figuring out if it wasn't gonna
go away, naturally, I'm gonna
2:51:15
act like it's gonna go away.
2:51:18
Adam Curry: Well, that's not the
way I remember it. But let's
2:51:21
drill down on.
2:51:22
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that either. This is bullcrap.
2:51:25
Let's drill down on
2:51:26
Adam Curry: hydroxychloroquine
and ivermectin, shall we? Was
2:51:29
Unknown: it dangerous for him to
promote hydroxychloroquine and
2:51:32
ivermectin and those other
viewers, suppose viewers that
2:51:35
don't that don't actually treat
them.
2:51:38
John C Dvorak: But suppose when
did Trump ever promote
2:51:40
ivermectin? I think he did. I
don't think he did. Well brought
2:51:47
a drug see Chloroquine into the
conversation? That's the main
2:51:50
thing he brought. He said, I've
heard good things. He said, and
2:51:53
he was brought in by somebody
else. He said it and then he was
2:51:56
beat that beaten to death with
it. By every you know, left
2:52:00
winger, and he never mentioned
ivermectin, I don't think I'm
2:52:05
deleted later. No, I'm
2:52:06
Adam Curry: not finding a single
ivermectin clip even about that.
2:52:11
I mean, how about hydroxy?
2:52:15
John C Dvorak: beta hydroxy
group meeting came into the
2:52:17
picture way later.
2:52:18
Adam Curry: Yeah, it a lot about
hydroxychloroquine. But nothing
2:52:21
about it. We don't have any
clips of Trump that I can find
2:52:23
talking about ivermectin. That's
interesting.
2:52:27
John C Dvorak: Let's just make
it up. Let's just say set it
2:52:30
because that's what, Matt I'll
just say, you know, bring it in.
2:52:33
Because you still have to slam
ivermectin because it's just a
2:52:36
cheap cure for a lot of stuff.
So we don't want that.
2:52:39
Adam Curry: Oh, suppose that
cure, suppose and cure? Suppose
2:52:42
a cure?
2:52:42
Unknown: Yeah. I mean, I
obviously it is. I mean, I don't
2:52:45
want to get into how many
numbers of people who would have
2:52:47
made a difference,
2:52:48
Adam Curry: but clearly, oh, it
would have made a difference to
2:52:51
somebody, he missed
2:52:53
Unknown: an opportunity. Because
there were people out there who
2:52:55
knew nothing about this, who
were saying hydroxychloroquine
2:53:00
works. And we know that not only
does it not, but it actually
2:53:03
hurts people. Oh, he couldn't
use the bully pulpit of the
2:53:07
presidency, to say, Hey, listen
to the scientists. But he didn't
2:53:11
do
2:53:11
Adam Curry: that. I also don't
recall it. hydroxychloroquine
2:53:15
hurts people. But okay,
2:53:18
John C Dvorak: no, there was a
ton of studies about it. And it
2:53:20
was pretty harmless. In the
ivermectin even more, I mean,
2:53:25
there's millions of case doses
of the stuff out there.
2:53:29
Adam Curry: And then the final
clip, Rachel does does ME A
2:53:32
SOLID takes us right back to
2020.
2:53:35
Unknown: In terms of the vaccine
development that did happen in
2:53:39
this country that you described
as being almost miraculous in
2:53:43
terms of the pace going from
when in 11 months from the
2:53:46
identification of the pathogen
to a safe and effective and
2:53:49
deployable virus. Obviously,
that's something that the United
2:53:52
States of America contributed
into the world's response and
2:53:55
has a lot to be proud of, and
you have a lot to be proud of.
2:53:58
Adam Curry: That's right,
Rachel. A safe and effective
2:54:01
deployable virus right on nailed
it. Thank you. I miss clips like
2:54:07
that. Some of these were good,
some real Alright, so Fauci
2:54:15
takes. Fauci takes all the
credit for getting a safe and
2:54:19
deployable virus out there
within the within 11 months. I
2:54:23
don't know this this year,
right. There's some background
2:54:25
going on here. That is, that is
weird. Why would he even want to
2:54:29
have a book out? You retired?
Take your millions go away?
2:54:34
John C Dvorak: Yes, that looks
like he's pot a popper. Popper.
2:54:38
Popper. Popper. A poor person. A
power.
2:54:42
Adam Curry: A up er? Yes. A
popper. Popper. opposed eyes
2:54:46
popper a pop Halper off my Dutch
pauper? A Paul bar. All right.
2:54:54
Anything else you got to
2:54:55
John C Dvorak: have? Well did
Jay says you played a clip where
2:54:58
she's made a bunch. I do have a
job. Joe Biden making this you
2:55:01
have to listen very carefully to
what she says. But it's a gaffe.
2:55:06
Biden, so Gaffigan runs in the
family, I guess. And here we go.
2:55:09
This
2:55:10
Unknown: election is most
certainly not about age. Joe and
2:55:15
that other guy are essentially
the same age. Let's not be
2:55:20
fooled. Joe isn't one of the
most effective presidents of our
2:55:25
lives in spite of his age, but
because of it
2:55:30
Adam Curry: isn't one of the
most effective because of his
2:55:33
age is dynamite. Thank you,
Jill. You're right.
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Empire British Empire. Yes three
3:05:08
two knights. Got your blade.
Let's bring these boys up here.
3:05:12
John C Dvorak: Here you go.
3:05:13
Adam Curry: Nice. That's
actually my favorite one with
3:05:16
the pearl handle Sebastiana
sticks there and John, hop on up
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here boys you're about to become
nine in the no agenda roundtable
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thanks for your support either
directly or from others of
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$1,000 or more and I'm very
proud to pronounce the K the as
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Knight of the duck spirit
grounds and sure pop pop of the
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pocket protectors and keeper of
16 grandbabies for you
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gentlemen, we have hookers and
blow rent boys and Chardonnay,
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Huntron platinum and Tomahawk
steaks. Along with that car
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girls and coffin varnish bong
hits and bourbon sparkling cider
3:05:49
and escorts aces and sock a
ginger ale and Geragos breast
3:05:53
milk and pablor more of course,
everybody loves here at the
3:05:56
roundtable the mutton then the
meed head on over to no agenda
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rings.com The you can take a
look at those beautiful night
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and Dame rings. They're Signet
rings. You can see all your
3:06:04
important correspondence with
them with sealing wax, which
3:06:07
also happened to provide along
with a certificate of
3:06:10
authenticity signed by John and
myself. Welcome, gentlemen to
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the roundtable. Thank you for
your support of the no agenda
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show.
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Of course, I was here for one of
the big meetups in Amsterdam the
3:06:28
no agenda, Amsterdam crew, which
was fantastic. A lot of people
3:06:31
came from outside of Amsterdam.
Of course everyone's emailing me
3:06:34
now. It's nice to have some
correspondence. If I can get
3:06:37
through it all and thank you all
for coming. We have no other
3:06:40
reports but we do have a meetup
taking place today the Tucson
3:06:43
summer solstice soiree which is
underway now I think it canyons
3:06:47
crown in Tucson, Arizona, the
North Georgia monthly meet up
3:06:50
six o'clock Cherry Street
brewing Alpharetta, Georgia the
3:06:53
Denver summer solstice
Strawberry Moon meetup will be
3:06:57
at 630 today in the city park
Denver Museum of Nature and
3:07:00
Science in Denver, Colorado.
Charlotte's thirsty Third
3:07:03
Thursday seven o'clock at Ed's
tavern right after the show head
3:07:06
over there in Charlotte, North
Carolina. Tomorrow the central
3:07:09
Ohio post Father's Day meet up
in June kicking off at 530 Oh,
3:07:13
this is a secret location you
got to contact sir Larry for the
3:07:17
information go to no agenda
meetups.com For that Saturday,
3:07:20
the Fort Wayne barbecue and brew
club 33 meet up at one o'clock
3:07:23
and shakes in pit goddess. It's
the shakes in pit barbecue and
3:07:29
brew in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
That should be a good one. On
3:07:33
Saturday the I did that Seattle
meetup 2pm. And you need to go
3:07:37
to Edmonds Washington. I believe
the website no agenda
3:07:40
meetups.com has more details.
The tiny Mignolet make a big
3:07:44
delay of Anchorage unite two
o'clock Alaska time sir Lane's
3:07:49
house in Anchorage, Alaska. Oh,
I'd love to go to that. I'll bet
3:07:52
that's fun. Alaska is great to
go. Another Gitmo nation's low
3:07:56
land. This is the happy wood
near the coup de meet up on
3:08:01
Sunday. Our next show day one
o'clock, Central European Time
3:08:05
in Tilburg, brabants Nora
Brahmam the Netherlands, sir
3:08:08
Hendrik organizing that we have
the South Florida Margarita meet
3:08:12
up at 230 in the Norris Alton
Palm Beach Gardens Florida. This
3:08:17
is all Sunday by the way the
Indiana a proud tribal meet a
3:08:20
blind owl brewery who doesn't
know it mark and Murray of the
3:08:23
Greenwood organize that is
always big it's always great we
3:08:26
get a beautiful reports that'll
be on Sunday. And the Kansas
3:08:30
City meetup Some Like It Hot
edition 333 variety Casey
3:08:34
playground it wion doet wind not
why No? Why no Connie Park,
3:08:41
Bonner Springs Kansas and
finally, the International
3:08:44
Scandinavian Finland summit
makes nothing but since six
3:08:47
o'clock in Helsinki, at stones
in Helsinki, Finland. Hey, since
3:08:52
a meet up reports people we'd
love hearing him I'll even edit
3:08:55
out some of the ohms in the on
the stump dumb stuff. I'm happy
3:08:58
to do it. We love hearing from
you because these meetups they
3:09:02
really mean a lot. They mean a
lot to your fellow no agenda get
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more nation citizens. You learn
a lot you converse a lot.
3:09:11
Anybody can go even if you're
shy, the no agenda mean it was
3:09:14
for you. You're outlandish
you're outspoken. The no agenda
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Meetup is for you. It's always a
good time connection is
3:09:22
protection. You will not regret
it. No agenda meet ups.com go
3:09:25
there to find out if there's one
near you. If you can find one,
3:09:28
start one yourself. Sometimes
3:09:30
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with the Dyson days. You'd be
3:09:39
triggered. You want to be where
everybody feels the same.
3:09:47
Adam Curry: It's like me see I
got some ISOs see you have to
3:09:58
actually more than I thought So,
I have four ISOs. I'm gonna go
3:10:04
first. Yes. Ready?
3:10:07
Unknown: Yeah, that's when this
all fairly confusing. Good was
3:10:12
okay, it's okay. It's all a
bunch of hogwash. Let's go into
3:10:18
NOPAT and Hillary Clinton.
3:10:20
Ah, okay,
3:10:23
Adam Curry: since we talked
about it. Yeah. You didn't like
3:10:26
you didn't like that one? No.
Okay, then I have my final which
3:10:31
I think is a winner. Now that's
hot.
3:10:35
John C Dvorak: Hey, she liked
the second one the most at that
3:10:37
last one. I have a kind of a
one. That's a perfect end of
3:10:40
show. Okay,
3:10:42
Adam Curry: let me see you only
have one up. Okay. I'll play it
3:10:48
by you're always doing those.
It's like this is always bye bye
3:10:54
bye.
3:10:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, show but I
will say that second one. But
3:11:01
you have. Yeah.
3:11:03
Unknown: And want to hear it. A
bunch of hogwash.
3:11:07
Adam Curry: I think is a good
one. I guess from C span by C
3:11:11
span original. That's the kind
of people they have listened
3:11:14
over there. That's it. I hate
you. i So is set.
3:11:19
Unknown: Good news. It's good
advice John sees.
3:11:25
Adam Curry: Now can I mention
something before you do the tip
3:11:29
of the day. But another
competitive tip? Well, I have a
3:11:33
tip but I have to say that I was
excoriated for bringing a boomer
3:11:39
tip to my friends. What was the
boomer tip your tip of the week?
3:11:44
The was what Ali Express?
3:11:47
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. A lot
of people. Mimi gave me great
3:11:50
grief and so did Brunetti.
Everybody
3:11:52
Adam Curry: gave me I said, I
said to Tina, hey, Ali
3:11:55
expressions. Oh, this is great.
She she she talked to the My
3:11:58
stepdaughter in in New York.
She's like, Oh, yeah, four years
3:12:02
ago. Boomer like, Thanks, John.
Thanks a lot.
3:12:07
John C Dvorak: Hey, what's new
to me? What am I supposed to
3:12:09
say?
3:12:10
Adam Curry: I mean, everybody
laughed at me, Christina.
3:12:13
Remember, after the show us like
I was in Dutch to
3:12:15
John C Dvorak: me. Mimi said why
don't you plug Ki Moon.
3:12:19
Adam Curry: That's what everyone
said to me was even newer than
3:12:22
Ali Express. So your tip of the
week is, is you're on probation.
3:12:29
Oh, please. You're on probation.
What's your way now?
3:12:37
John C Dvorak: I know he's
trying to sync the tip of the
3:12:39
day. No, I love that. Okay, my
tip is the one I gave this a tip
3:12:43
I'm gonna give this tip as a
product tip. Again, it's an it's
3:12:47
a product's been there. It's
been out a while and you use it
3:12:50
recently. I'd got you to use it
because you're having trouble
3:12:52
with your machine. It's called
the glary. Utilities is free.
3:12:57
It's out there. It's available.
People should download it and
3:13:00
use it but you can also get an
upgraded version but you don't
3:13:02
need to. It does all kinds of
cool stuff. It's got g l a r y
3:13:09
utilities. Google it. Duck Duck
go it being fine. I would use it
3:13:18
to great product.
3:13:21
Adam Curry: So I was I was
thinking about yourself
3:13:23
John C Dvorak: said that it sped
up your machine
3:13:25
Adam Curry: it did. I did
another glary product isn't
3:13:29
outstanding. Although when when
it said Do you know? Because you
3:13:35
said oh you should defrag your
your drive and and the glary was
3:13:39
given me like oh, do you really
want it? This is an SSD drive?
3:13:42
Do you really want it this could
decrease the lifespan of your
3:13:45
drive?
3:13:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, in
the olden days, it would but
3:13:50
today's SSDs well with the same
memory they're
3:13:54
Adam Curry: warning was kind of
was kind of freaking me out.
3:13:58
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
but the problem with SSDs
3:14:00
womanizer bring it up here we go
is that they especially the
3:14:03
early ones, the early old ones
had a limited lifespan because
3:14:08
you could only read write read
write to the same cells X number
3:14:12
of times it was very low in fact
the numbers were so low in the
3:14:15
early days how long that nobody
would use an SSD but since then
3:14:20
they're they're just as reliable
long term as far as a magnetic
3:14:23
drive so I they're just worried
that you may have an old piece
3:14:29
of crap SSD and you know just
give you a little warning
3:14:32
because it does have to do a lot
of work so as doing a lot of
3:14:35
reading and writing and moving
stuff around and so yeah, so
3:14:37
after
3:14:37
Adam Curry: that I did that
being a Windows user on the on
3:14:41
the on the studio machine for
software reasons. The only
3:14:44
software that really I love
really liked was Windows only.
3:14:47
Please don't tell me to run
under wine under Linux. Please
3:14:50
stop. It doesn't work. I
actually went into the settings
3:14:56
I found a tip. I went into
settings. This is an amazing one
3:15:00
for Windows Christopher's kind
of slowing down. It's not a very
3:15:02
powerful machine. It's it's a
bumblebee, what is that thing?
3:15:07
What's the bumblebee?
3:15:09
Unknown: What is it called the
feeling be like,
3:15:12
Adam Curry: yeah, the bumblebee
link. It does have it has. It
3:15:15
has eight gigs of memory, but
it's not very powerful,
3:15:18
particularly if you have
multiple
3:15:20
John C Dvorak: other use.
They're useful as utility
3:15:22
machines.
3:15:23
Adam Curry: Yeah. And it really
doesn't have to do much but it's
3:15:25
kind of pushing it. And so I
went into settings, Advanced
3:15:29
Settings, and there's actually a
little button you can toggle off
3:15:32
all of that fancy stuff. Like
shading and and pre determined
3:15:38
you're making images in your in
your in your explorer window.
3:15:42
And animations when you when you
minimize something, man, you
3:15:46
turn that off the machine
screams it screams I tell you.
3:15:51
It
3:15:51
John C Dvorak: was you put Linux
on it too.
3:15:53
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right
and run anything under wine.
3:15:57
There's your tip, run everything
under wine analytics.
3:16:00
Unknown: All right, everybody
coming out tonight. We got one
3:16:03
more for you. By Anna Marie and
John fino moron.
3:16:10
Adam Curry: Thanks jingle makers
you get in better. It definitely
3:16:13
getting better. Love it. All
right, that is our broadcast day
3:16:18
for today. Coming up next we've
got what do we have on the
3:16:22
stream? Complex candor, limited
to liberty to duties and freedom
3:16:29
now this dame lady Vox. All
right. The same lady boxers as
3:16:33
cool stuff.
3:16:34
John C Dvorak: Yes. You wish
your son acts? Yes
3:16:38
Adam Curry: birthday. That's
right. End of show mixes,
3:16:42
daughter hatchet. And the show
mixes. We have the one and only
3:16:48
clip custodian Neil Jones had
time to do it. It's all of the
3:16:51
other things he's working on.
And Professor James Jones, not
3:16:54
related. He's in China, both of
them coming in with end of show
3:16:58
mixes. And this concludes our
broadcast. They'll be back in
3:17:03
Texas tomorrow and hopefully the
show from the Hill Country.
3:17:06
Coming to you now from 11 feet
below sea level, Schiphol
3:17:10
Airport, Amsterdam, the
Netherlands in the morning,
3:17:13
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
3:17:15
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley. We're in 350
3:17:18
feet above sea level. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
3:17:20
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday
right here on no agenda.
3:17:22
Remember I said no agenda
donations.com Until then, adios
3:17:26
mofos OUI OUI and such.
3:17:30
Unknown: We're gonna begin this
hour with the latest on a
3:17:32
dangerous bird flu and concerns
that the virus has the potential
3:17:35
to become Here you go the P word
3:17:40
with a few words
3:18:01
buddy if you do get one of those
Frankenstein plays where you
3:18:03
have a combination of a bird flu
and a human flu
3:18:07
Here we go. I don't want to feel
here we go again. Yikes.
3:18:21
We go again.
3:18:34
For more yay. For more years.
3:18:41
Makes me want to throw my hands
in the air.
3:18:45
And Google like just don't care.
If you get a note tell you to
3:18:49
vote. Let the algo say oh yeah.
3:18:53
It's much worse than you think.
3:18:55
John C Dvorak: Google sends out
a reminder at a rate two and a
3:18:58
half times greater to Democrats
and
3:19:00
Adam Curry: we have no idea how
bad it was here during the COVID
3:19:03
lockdowns. Very happy and
bright. The situation
3:19:07
Unknown: is even worse than you
thought it was.
3:19:09
John C Dvorak: Yes kill more
Ukrainians. We would condemn
3:19:12
humanity to a future without
hope they would make Mengele
3:19:16
blush 500 million people hitting
Google daily
3:19:21
Adam Curry: all looking for AOC
porn videos. Yes,
3:19:24
John C Dvorak: girl baby girl
How bad is probably somewhere
3:19:29
between 25 and
3:19:31
Unknown: 50% mortalities
3:19:33
John C Dvorak: adds up
3:19:34
Adam Curry: get worried get
worried.
3:19:36
Unknown: The US military is
prohibited from targeting
3:19:38
Americans with propaganda that's
true. But here's
3:19:41
the scary part Franken
3:19:42
Adam Curry: flu to hold on a
second alien ballots mask up
3:19:46
flatten the curve bird flu
pandemic Kuhn flu we need no
3:19:50
agenda shop was t shirts and
hoodies and stuff. I'm not
3:19:54
putting a mask on. I'm not gonna
do that. No
3:19:56
Unknown: way is the flu in the
back cuz Don't you believe roll
3:20:02
up the sleeves while the screens
3:20:07
just say it's bull crap,
3:20:10
Adam Curry: bird flu question
mark your mama.
3:20:12
John C Dvorak: That's not a
great question COVID
3:20:15
disinformation
3:20:17
Adam Curry: and at
3:20:17
Unknown: some point they're
gonna send out partisan mail in
3:20:21
your ballot reminders and at
some point they're gonna send
3:20:23
out partisan go vote reminders
and
3:20:26
Adam Curry: middle management is
fat. Google has
3:20:29
Unknown: made that information
3:20:31
disappear.
3:20:33
Adam Curry: You couldn't go
anywhere without a QR code
3:20:43
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in A
3:20:48
it's all a bunch of hogwash.