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John C Dvorak: To all signs
pointed to jacked up Joe, Adam
curry,
Unknown: John C. Devorah 30
Adam Curry: and 2020 for this
award winning combination media
assassination episode 1673 This
Unknown: is no agenda
Adam Curry: clarifying the clown
show and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
number six. In the morning,
everybody I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: Hey from New
Orleans Silicon Valley, where
everybody wants Kamla Harris for
President I'm Jonathan
Adam Curry: Hill. As funny that
was going to be my complete
deconstruction as well go Kamla
John C Dvorak: I wish that
happened. I
Adam Curry: received a very rare
text from from John Thursday
night. He says hey, got any
Palestine news?
John C Dvorak: Very funny. Yeah.
Before we begin our
deconstruction because everyone
seems to think we're going to do
this oh,
Adam Curry: let me tell you
walking into church this
morning. Hey, I can't wait to
hear what you guys have to say.
Oh, everyone's like half the
church like what what he was
gonna have what you got to get
out of it. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, this you
got your customers there. That's
all right. Oh, wait,
Adam Curry: why do you think I
go customers baby? All
customers? Yes. Why we should
only have
John C Dvorak: a couple of super
clips I want to start with
versus the commentary. I
Adam Curry: have a super clip as
well. How about that?
John C Dvorak: I have a before
Super clip actually have two
befores and one after. Okay. And
why are they get debit for
debate? So, I would like to
start with this when Deb CBS
before CBS
Adam Curry: before. Okay, here
we go. We
Unknown: are just hours away
from this year's first
presidential debate in Atlanta.
And while President Biden and
former President Donald Trump
have done this before back in
2020. As you all know, so much
has changed since then. And
right now the race could not be
tighter. Minnesota's Democratic
Senator Amy Klobuchar joins us
from Atlanta ahead of tonight's
debate. Senator Klobuchar.
Welcome. I want to dive right
into what's leading on many
people's minds, which recent
polling suggests is this concern
about President Biden's age
you're speaking to a reporter
who he called a junkie some time
ago because I inquired about
cognitive tests. How significant
is it tonight that Mr. Biden
shows he's fit for the title of
Commander in Chief?
Oh, President Biden is fit to be
commander in chief every time
there has been a big moment
where the Trump people are
predicting some fiasco every
time President Biden rises to
the occasion. Look at it, the
State of the Union this year.
Last year, he was fantastic.
Normandy, he is the commander in
chief. And you know, they can
poke at his age all they want.
Trump is nearly the same age and
I take 81 over 91 Any day 91
felony indictments?
Adam Curry: Not really not
really. Not really a super,
John C Dvorak: super super super
clip is this one. This is Deb m
s NBC, which is actually MSNBC,
CNN and a few others before and
this is a clip.
Adam Curry: Now is it good
before? I'm sorry? Yeah, before
for I'm sorry. Okay, here we go.
Unknown: Advantage. Joe Biden,
well,
then you better vote for Joe
Biden. It's that simple. This
version of Biden,
intellectually, analytically, is
the best Biden ever about it. On
the one
hand, I think that, you know,
they should debate that Biden
will wipe the floor for me what
Biden should just challenge him
to push up.
Donald Trump better, better be
careful, because in 2020, when
they had their little debate,
he is visibly in in better
physical shape than Donald
Trump.
Biden is out riding the bike
swimming in the ocean.
He's you know, 80 year olds, you
want to do all those things kill
buyers in far better shape.
Physically. Joe Biden is
physically active. He's on a
bike. He's literally the one
question Is he old enough to see
strong enough he was on fire.
He's fiery Joe.
I'm excited for the American
people to get to see President
Biden on the campaign trail. Get
to see what I get to see behind
the scenes all the time about
his energy. One
of the themes this election
cycle is that Joe Biden is too
old to lead and so everyone is
seizing upon this. And it is a
classic disinformation tactic.
Biden swept the floor with
that's
Adam Curry: what a rug poll. All
right. I presume the MSNBC after
is the next clip. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: the same
basically the same people in
that last clip.
Unknown: After the debate, now
is a good time in June. Thank
God in June and not October in
June. This is a last chance for
Democrats to decide whether this
man we've known and loved for a
very long On Time is up to the
task,
blame it on a cold, blame it on
his stuttering, blame it on over
preparation, whatever. But he
did lose it maybe he needs to
go. Maybe he needs to be honest
with it was stunningly worse
than I expected the performance.
I think within the first 90
seconds it was kind of baked in,
kind of pains me to say this
today, but I think President
Biden needs to step down.
It just pains me but I don't
believe he's the right man right
now. And I don't know what you
do to turn that around. Biden's
answers
were in a lot of cases not
coherent. He did
nothing to disabuse, I think the
country of the notion that he is
very old and was lost
frequently. His biggest issue
that he had to prove to the
American people was he had the
energy and the stamina. And he
didn't do
that. It's kind of a DEF CON one
moment.
Adam Curry: That was painful. I
love Joe Biden, I worked for Joe
Biden. He didn't do well at all.
He did not do well at all.
Unknown: The only job that Joe
Biden had last night was to
reassure America that he was not
too old to do the job. And he
failed. I was
disappointed devastated by Joe
Biden's performance last night.
I don't believe He's our best
choice at this point.
Adam Curry: Before we continue,
and I'd like to, for us to talk
a little bit, I would like to
play a public service
announcement. This is a public
service announcement from then
Attorney General of the great
State of Delaware, Beau Biden.
Unknown: Hi, my name is Beau
Biden, Attorney General, the
state of Delaware. Here to talk
to you about something that's
very important to me, and to my
office senior abuse, which falls
into one of three categories,
abuse, neglect, or financial
exploitation. For every one of
these types of crimes, it's
reported to our office five go
on reporting, but 2 million
senior Americans are affected
every year. And 80% 80% of these
crimes are committed by family
members against the so called
level. We need your help seniors
need your help. So if you
suspect that anyone is affected
by any of these crimes, please
contact our elder abuse hotline.
Thank you.
Adam Curry: I think right after
the bait, we got a excellent
example of elder abuse by a
family member. Such a great job
you answered every question. I
mean, come on. Are we stupid?
John C Dvorak: Are we so you
answered every question, God,
you did a great job, Joe.
Unknown: Okay. So
Adam Curry: I think we could
have probably expected this
because the setup for this
obvious operation was Shareen.
caboodle John Pierre, with the
cheap fakes. That was the setup,
not for not for us, but for
John C Dvorak: probably a gaslit
public for
Adam Curry: the gaslit public's
like, Oh, see, it's just the
Republicans. They're deceptively
editing. It's all No, it's not
true. That because I remember
saying, Wow, that's a really
good one cheap fakes. That's not
something jurien came up with
that came from someone who was
smart. And yes,
John C Dvorak: yeah, because you
can't say deep fake as as very
specific. No, but we all know
what that means. Yes. So you
change the the the, the
terminology to DT to cheap Fe
which rhymes with deep and makes
you think deep. But it doesn't
really mean anything. There's no
real definition for this.
Adam Curry: Now, the thing that
we can't portray, because it
wasn't audio is what you saw on
the screen. I'm sure you saw it
too. Right after the debate when
I was watching, CNN, CNN, MSNBC.
John C Dvorak: CNN is the only
state only network that showed
what you're going to talk them.
No,
Adam Curry: MSNBC did the same
thing. They kept wasn't
John C Dvorak: on CBS. No, no,
I'm saying it wasn't on ABC or
NBC. No.
Adam Curry: It was on now
remember that they had CNN had I
think 15 People MSNBC had about
eight or nine and the lower
third kept coming up. Democrat
insider Joe has to go dem
sources say this is horrendous.
Joe has got to resign. I mean,
one after the other. And then
because of course these these I
don't think that these these
talking heads were in on it. But
they were getting the calls.
John C Dvorak: Like oh, I think
you're talking about him being
escorted off the stage.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
no. Now you saw that, right
where he where Jill literally
had to hold the head to support
him getting down each step. No
Step No, the lower third this
now you and I know enough about
television. It's not like the
Chiron editor sits there and
says, Oh, I know what I'll put
in there. This would be cool.
Let me put this in. No. And
there were no there were no
names. There were no names. It
was just dem sources, donors,
insiders, Washington, people
with knowledge people familiar
with the matter. None of those
were on the screen. No, none of
those came on to say anything,
it was all lower third, and it
was just one after the other
after the other. And then of
course, the New York Times came
out with the editorial board
literally saying, to serve his
country, President Biden should
leave the race. So this was a
complete setup. And all of these
talking heads, they were getting
the calls, that's all they could
talk about. Well, I'm getting
calls from all over the place
I'm getting I'm getting caught
Jordan, and they would not name
names. No, I'm getting called
from the Obama world people
whatever that means. I found
John C Dvorak: it interesting.
The and I'm gonna stay with your
thesis here because I kind of
think there's something going on
to the is that for example, on
MSNBC, you had a just a table
full of people and say, eight or
nine people and they somehow all
of them were getting calls. work
in the industry. I don't care
who you are, what you're you're
not getting calls, just random
calls constantly from people
when you're when you actually
have a job to do. You're good.
You have to prepare for this for
the setup that's going on for
the discussions. You're not
taking a bunch of calls if you
were even getting them there was
something very fishy about Yeah,
I got called by 10 different
people. I got call like I called
my phone was ringing off the
hook.
Adam Curry: Let me put it this
way. I believe these people or
text call DMS, whatever it
that's kind of irrelevant how it
came in. These are the people
they talk to all the time. These
are the people that tell them
what to say. That's why they had
nothing, no other thing to say
is because they're they they
have no brain cells. They just
say whatever their sources,
there insiders, the donors who
whatever they tell these people
in those on those panels. Now
they were just saying, Oh, he's
gotta go. It's done. Oh, no, it
was a nice little play, by the
way, coincidentally, is good.
June 28 1914, is when arch
Archduke Ferdinand was
assassinated, seems to be a
political trend. Every 110 years
a cycle John a cycle, June 28.
So the question is
John C Dvorak: why the by the
way after the fact they closed
ranks? What do you mean that the
Republicans, the Democrats
closed ranks? Biden's not going
to go? He showed his true
spirits the next day? Oh, yeah,
of course, of course, and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. And I.
And then they had one of the
guys that was on Fox. And he's
the guy used to be an ex
congressman, he's under one of
the weekend shows. He says that
there's already too many states
because the presidential
election is actually run by the
states because they're setting
it up for the Electoral College.
He says that there's close you
can't change the name of the
current date. Correct. And about
including Nevada, in a good
third of the states. He says no
way you can get by right there,
correct? Yes, he dies?
Adam Curry: Well, there's Well,
there's a couple of options
here. As I understand as well,
because of the delegates, you
know, you can't pull them out.
They have to go through the
convention process. The only
thing that would potentially
work is if Well, there's two
ways if Biden steps down after
he is nominated as the
candidate. Three if he dies on
suddenly, or there's also 25th
amendment possibility this
Newsweek is already kind of
talking about that. But I don't
know if that's really going to
happen.
John C Dvorak: What that's never
going to happen. But what is
what I think
Adam Curry: we need to be on
watch for a number of reasons.
One, while we're all distracted
here, what else is going on? So
I want all the no agenda
producers to be watchmen and
watch women keep your eyes open
because something it's something
else is happening while we're
not seeing it. And I think
there's another shoe to drop, we
just haven't seen the second
piece of this. Of this up. And I
kind of predict the next talking
point might be nuclear codes.
national security, no, that
shouldn't be trumped to that.
Well, that's what I'm saying
that they haven't even done that
with him yet. The timing of this
was obvious it was way early
earlier than any debate has ever
taken place. So it was planned
but we just don't know why I'm
I'm a little afraid that they
that if the if the war machine
is behind this op very possible
they they're the guys with the
money that they want an event
and well you know, we can't have
Joe in there. He can't have his
hand on the button. There's all
kinds of possibilities there of
you
John C Dvorak: can speculate all
you want but it's gonna be a
difficult thing to get It is
it's a what? Whoever set this
up? Let's go right back to the
beginning. Who decided not to
jack up, Joe?
Adam Curry: But hold on? You
didn't let me finish. My
original thesis has been they
want Trump in. Trump is very pro
military.
John C Dvorak: That's been the
thesis of the show for a while.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Now who didn't jack
up, Joe? Well, I think right
now, the person to watch is
Jill. And she's she's the
handler, that's clear. If she
wasn't in on it, then she should
be livid. And I, from what I
understand the Biden family is
now at Camp David. They'll
discussing what Joe should do.
And, according to NBC, a person
familiar with the dynamic said
Biden will ultimately listen to
only one advisor, and that is
Jill. Now why are they saying
that? They're saying that
because there's reasons. is it
also possible in your mind that
Biden, I mean, you're president,
you still have power? That Biden
is just like, No, no, I'm not
going. Or the Jill said, Joe,
tell them you're not going.
Maybe she's the power hungry
one.
John C Dvorak: She sure maybe
she really thinks she maybe Sure
looks it Oh, my God, she is it?
Well, then,
Adam Curry: you know, so it's
also possible that they just
couldn't get him to step down.
And they said, alright, you know
what, we'll do it this way.
Well,
John C Dvorak: if you recall, in
2020, or 2019, probably, Biden
says he was only running for
president for one term, and then
he's gonna pass it on. He said
that I don't know if he ever.
But we all everybody remembers
him doing I'm only going to run
for one term. And that's all I
wanted just to get rid of Trump.
And we'll put some we'll get
some other new talent in there.
And then all of a sudden, out of
the blue after flying around in
the big jet and having nothing
but fun and free meals with
especially Jill having fun in
the big jet and being flown by
herself in the big jet. And the
small jet. She, why are we
quitting this job? We can run
again, I don't understand why
this one. thing, you're doing a
good job.
Adam Curry: I'd like this jet.
This jet is great. Yeah, that's
all very possible. Now there's,
there's a kind of far out there
theory which in a way, through a
funny way, although I don't like
the source that you sent me
from. about Putin. And I don't
have confirmation yet, because I
can't find it anywhere.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the Putin
thing? Yeah, apparently, I just
sent that to you. Because it was
fun. If true, you and Putin are
thinking in the same. Same way.
Adam Curry: So the Putin theory,
Putin says, Be careful, the
Americans are setting up a bird
flew when he called Bio weapon
attack. Now, should that be
true? And there's ample evidence
for it? But you know, quite a
stretch. The problem with Biden
is, is not that he's, you know,
that he is clearly mentally
deficient. Is the problem is
that, I mean, he's losing by too
big a margin. So just bear with
me, if you were going to rig the
election, which seems completely
possible, then all you really
need is someone who could be
plausible enough to win. So that
when you fix the results, you
say, Well, I mean, it was Gavin
Newsom, yo, or was fill in the
blank, Pamela, can't Well, even
Camela, even Camela would work.
So they really, they really just
need a candidate who could give
plausibility to ballot counting
results. Now, you could do that
with a with a with another plan.
Demick possibly, although I
don't know, you could do it with
the cyber attack. Oh, the
infrastructure is broken. We
have to go to paper ballots. But
I don't think that they've
unveiled they haven't shown
their hand to us yet. It's not
there. But
John C Dvorak: then again, we
have our self contradictory
belief that Trump is the target
to become the next president.
Adam Curry: That's the one that
seems most logical. And I think
that, you know, Trump is just
saying I want I want I want I
mean, why is it so obvious that
this was an opt to take that why
isn't he saying the obvious this
troubles me? Why is he saying
while the Democrats really don't
want Joe to win, do they?
Everybody can see that? Why
isn't he saying it?
John C Dvorak: There's been a
lot of speculation, especially
from the right wingers on the
stuff that Trump's not saying.
Mm hmm. If it's if we're if
everything we say and suspect is
true, he has been told not to
say these things. I'm so
Adam Curry: afraid that that's
true. I mean, it just had this
format the way CNN set it up.
They didn't do any of the fact
checking, which was just
unbelievable. By the way. Did
you see Erin Burnett? I did. Oh,
ozempic Oh, I didn't notice
that. Oh, my goodness. She looks
she's back to her fighting
weight when she was on CNBC. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Good. Here she
is. Here she is.
Unknown: The candidates
performance and demeanor tonight
notwithstanding, there is the
crucial question of the truth of
what was actually said on stage.
And our fact checker Daniel Dale
joins us now. So Daniel, what
stands out to you?
What stood out was the
staggering number of false
claims from former President
Trump on first count error and I
counted at least 3030 false
claims. President Biden also
made false claims at least nine
false or misleading statements.
First count, I'll give you some
of them. He said he's the only
president in a while who didn't
have any troops dying anywhere
in the world. Troops have of
course died on his watch. He
said he's putting a $15 per shot
cap on insulin. Medicare is a
$35 a month cap. He said it's a
$200 cap on overall drug
spending and Medicare. It's
$2,000 a year. He said the
border now has fewer crossings
than when Trump was in office.
That's generally not true. He
said or at least strongly
suggested unemployment was at
15%. When he took office, it was
actually 6.4. He said Trump's
what Trump wants to get rid of
Social Security. Trump doesn't.
He said billionaires pay 8.2% in
taxes. It's much higher. He said
Trump told Americans to inject
bleach amid COVID. We know Trump
made foolish comments about
scientists studying disinfectant
injection, but didn't frame it
as advice to people. And Biden
said the Border Patrol endorsed
him. No, it's union supported
the border Bill heat support. It
never endorsed him himself. In
fairness, the President did
appear to clarify that one. So
Adam Curry: that's the Biden
that what? Yeah, no, that's
John C Dvorak: not true. He
never clarified it.
Adam Curry: No, but that's the
Biden fact check. much funnier
is Trump fact check. This guy, I
gotta give him kudos. Who's this
guy? This guy is Daniel Dale,
listen to this. Now.
Unknown: The Trump list is way
way longer. So deep breath. He
said some Democratic states
allow people to execute babies
after birth, an egregious lie
that is illegal in every state.
He said everybody even Democrats
wanted Roe v. Wade overturn. Roe
was supported by two thirds of
Americans even more Democrats.
He said every legal scholar
wanted roe overturn abortion to
return to the state's legal
scholars had told me directly
this is not true. He said the US
currently has the biggest budget
deficit ever. No, that happened
under Trump in 2020. He said the
US currently has a record trade
deficit with China. That also
happened under Trump in 2018. He
said Biden personally gets a lot
of money from China. zero
evidence of this. He said there
were no terror attacks during
his presidency. Yeah, in fact,
there were multiple attacks. He
said Iran didn't fund Hamas,
Hezbollah other terror groups
under his presidency. Iran, in
fact did. He said Biden wants to
quadruple people's taxes. That
is pure fiction. He said the US
has provided way more aid to
Ukraine than Europe had. It's
actually the opposite. He said
the US provide has provided
about 200 billion in Ukraine aid
it's closer to 110 billion. He
said 18 or 90 million people
have crossed the border under
Biden that is millions too high.
Many of these migrants are from
prisons or mental institutions.
His own campaign cannot
corroborate this. He said Biden
has only created jobs for
illegal immigrants total
nonsense. He said Nancy Pelosi
turned down his offer of 10,000
National Guard troops on January
6, there is no evidence she even
got such an offer. I love this
guy Pelosi who had the power to
deploy the DC guard. He said
Pelosi now acknowledges she
turned down the troops. Now her
office told me tells me this
claim is still alive.
No.
Adam Curry: No, not on CNN, the
Unknown: National Guard to
Minneapolis in 2020. Actually,
that was the Democratic governor
he spoke of quote, ridiculous
fraud in the 2020 election, zero
evidence of any widespread
fraud. He said NATO was going
out of business. Completely,
clearly absurd. He said the US
was paying 100% of NATO before
he came along the US made up
about 71% of NATO defense
spending 100. He said he not
Biden is the one who lowered
insulin prices and Medicare. He
did it for some seniors. But
Biden did it for far more. He
said Biden indicted him again,
no evidence Biden has had a
personal row at any of these
four prosecutions. He said
Europe takes no US cars just not
true. He spoke of food prices
quadrupling under Biden. Wild
exaggeration, though they are up
he said Biden made up the idea
he called Dead service members
suckers and losers Note The
Atlantic magazine reported that
and then former Trump Chief of
Staff John Kelly corroborated it
he said Biden called Black
people quote, super predators
for 10 years. Biden never once
deployed that phrase, let alone
for 10 years, though he did at
least one speak of quote
predators without specifying is
about black people.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, stop.
I'll stop there. Yeah, it will.
It
John C Dvorak: goes on and on. I
mean,
Adam Curry: I just want to stop
the super predators one minute
because I happen to have these
clips. The person who said super
predators was this mystery.
Hillary, there's about 100 That
has nothing. Why is this
happening? Oh, that's weird.
John C Dvorak: I always love it
why he was all in on that DOMA?
Adam Curry: Well, I have that.
Here's the why did that fail?
There we go,
Unknown: not just gangs of kids
anymore. They are often the
kinds of kids that are called
super predators, no conscience,
no empathy. We can talk about
why they ended up that way. But
first, we have to bring them to
heel.
Adam Curry: This was about
little yami, who was on the
cover of Time Magazine, black
rain and the heel. As part of
that black kid with a machine
gun. This was part of and this
is this was the signal from
Trump to black America, everyone
in America that's black knows
about the Biden 1994 crime bill,
Unknown: there's about 100,000
of them, who are the predators
100,000 of the kids read about
in the front page of the
newspaper every day, unless we
do something about that cadre of
young people 10s of 1000s of
them born out of wedlock.
Without parents without
supervision, without any
structure. Without any
conscience developing a portion
of them will become the
predators 15 years from now. And
Madam President, we have
predators on our streets, they
are beyond the pale many of
those people, we have no choice
but to take them out of society.
Believe
Adam Curry: me, black America
knows exactly what Joe Biden
did. That was a nice reminder.
John C Dvorak: Well, and the
fact check, which I have a
couple of these I want to play.
The fact check guy, you know, I
think was Scott Adams who had
some posts about you know,
there's a difference between
actually actually lying, or
misstating the truth, and like
saying that Biden said, super
predators instead of just
predators, referring to the
super predators that Clinton
referenced, is not a one of
these checkmark lies, he lies
No, of course not. And I find it
very disgusting that this whole
it was almost like from the
beginning it was if Trump's
gonna get back in, they're going
to hold him really, to heal,
let's say, you know, because
they did that we already
witnessed this, the lies about
Trump saying lies, you know, the
30,000 lies that were
documented. We went through a
lot of them on this show back in
2017 2018. And most of these
lies weren't lies. They were
like, misstatements of fact, and
a misstatement of fact is not a
lie.
Adam Curry: agreed this this is
the talking point, though, you
know, so like, Joe had a bad
night, but Trump lied,
Unknown: he died.
John C Dvorak: Well, in fact,
let's go to his I'm gonna go
back to CBS because that's what
I watched this thing. And this
is the this clip is debate throw
to CBS. So the debate is ending
on CNN. And they're gonna end
they end CBS picks up the feed,
and you hear this.
Adam Curry: I'm really
struggling to find throw to PBS
John C Dvorak: debate. Debate.
Adam Curry: It says Thor, okay,
got it.
Unknown: Thank you, President
Trump, Gabon, President Biden.
Stay with us because we have
full analysis of this debate. It
Newson Cooper and Erin Burnett
starts now on CNN. And so the
first presidential debate of the
2024 election season is in the
books as you want witnessed
President Biden opening this
debate and continuing the very
shaky voice, a raspy voice that
we have learned from advisors
close to him that apparently
he's had a cold for the past
several days. But he also had a
number of wandering answers
during this debate. He had a
number of facts and
accomplishments that he wanted
to touted, but I think his voice
and sometimes was distracting
from that President Trump drove
offered this
Adam Curry: you say Trump? Yes.
They're so confused. They drove
distracting
Unknown: from that. President
Trump offered repeated lies and
exaggerations but then President
Biden failed to fact check Trump
most of the time. We've got our
entire panel here tonight to
discuss what we witnessed. John
Dickerson, I'll start with you.
For
the majority of Americans who
don't want this choice. The
debate met those expectations. I
think you characterized it
correctly. What we heard about
President Biden is people who
know know him said, you know,
when he was underestimated in
the 2020 campaign, people said
look to his convention speech
and eat exceeded expectations.
They said look to his State of
the Union addresses when he
exceeded expectations. on the
debate stage, he came in well
under expectations both as a
matter of performance, and as
arguing for why his vision for
the future is better. As you
mentioned, Donald Trump gave
fantastical delusional answers
on January 6, on Charlottesville
on what he said about the last
election and that matters,
because he's trying to convince
people who saw things with their
own eyes that what they saw was
not so good. That's
Adam Curry: interesting. I
thought the very fine people
which we know is factually just
a lie from Biden.
John C Dvorak: It's a lie.
Adam Curry: Have you heard a lot
of people pick that up? I mean,
I haven't got I don't have any
clips of people saying, hey,
Biden.
John C Dvorak: Dickerson just
did and it's been picked up by
others in the mainstream mostly.
And it's like they're denying In
fact, if you Snopes of all
places, Snopes says his
bullshit, and which is very
unusual. And but Dickerson's? I
was stunned by this because this
guy was thought was on top of
things, but the fact that he
thinks the Charlottesville
comments were, were not couched
improperly and and were actually
a hoax. And he also says the
same thing about January 6, and
this involved Trump's memo to
Pelosi dad, National Guard
troops and then Pelosi
commenting in the limo with her
with her with her daughter. For
the documentary that she's
making. That was the fall saw
this, where she's lamenting the
fact that she could have done
these troops, which, which Trump
referenced, and they say that's
a lie. What make when they use
this term, oh, you see it with
your own two eyes. Make no
mistake,
this is terrible. The media,
Adam Curry: people don't really
see what we see. I mean, this is
apparent from Tucker Carlson,
who was just now kind of having
his awakening. He saying, Wow, I
really didn't realize how how
bad it was. He was in it
himself. So these people, they
all they're doing, John has to
have in lunches to go into
parties that doing lots with
each other with each other doing
lots of calls. And here's the
one thing I'd really like some
analysis on from one of our
producers. Interestingly enough,
Sanjay Gupta has a special,
which I think aired in May, but
they're re airing it tonight on
CNN, hope for Alzheimer's. I
mean, how crazy can you be for
CNN to put that on again? What
is there a particular? Is there
a particular chemical or
something that you can give to
someone with Alzheimer's that
will indeed perk them up? Make
the Bluesun coherent for a while
maybe only reading it from a
teleprompter? Is there something
that for a limited time works,
no one has really discussed
that? Well, we
John C Dvorak: did have one of
our producers send in a note
about her mom who had
Alzheimer's. And she said that
they gave her something and she
and mom snapped out of it. What
was that claims? I've that's
where I said you got to find out
what it is. And I have not heard
back. But she says the mom
believes she was as lucid as she
was when she was in her 20s and
everybody was just jacked up
about it. But it was something I
guess you can't keep giving
somebody or it only works you
know, every so often I don't
know. So we have to there's got
to be somebody out to the knows
exactly what this concoction is.
Must
Adam Curry: be Adrenochrome
John C Dvorak: oh, maybe it is.
Whatever the case is the day
didn't give it to Joe on this go
round for whatever reason. We
have our suspicions but he
definitely was not jacked up.
Joe. I, I was disappointed I
kind of at the very beginning.
From I only have three Biden
clips that we can play if you
want when you want. But well,
they're all good ones. And
they're short. I didn't take the
whole two minutes, which Biden
didn't a lot of times either.
Adam Curry: I like let me let me
play the Deutsche Chevelle, I
was kind of looking what the
rest of the rest of the world
has other elections. We'll talk
about the later Iran has a run
off the UK has their election
coming up with some shenanigans
going on. Deutsche Avella, who
of course is a direct extension
of, of our intelligence
services, they went out into
America into American cities and
got man on the street, which I
haven't seen yet from the cable
networks, news networks. Now,
these are of course, not Trump
voters. But here it is
Unknown: close to us. Voters are
processing the Biden Trump
debate. And while the faithful
remain loyal to their respective
candidates, undecided voters
right across the country seem
largely unimpressed by what they
saw, and many aren't sure what
to sing in downtown New York. I
thought it was a little funny
and a little sad. In
a lot of ranting. Nothing was
being talked about. That was
important.
What other was right, it was
hard to understand. The
President and the other guy was
rambling off.
Meanwhile, on the streets of
Philadelphia,
I expected nonsense from Trump
and he always delivered. But
Biden I was a little
disappointed because I really
wanted him to answer the
questions. That's
the race to the bottom all over
again. Last night was the mummy
versus the dummy. The
sentiment was echoed in
Washington DC
I think it's a national
embarrassment that that is our
representation of leadership. I
wasn't very impressed with
either. On the west coast, one
man articulated the dilemma
faced by an entire nation.
It sucks because we have two
candidates that, you know, a lot
of people don't want to vote for
either one of them. And if you
don't vote for Biden, you're
stuck with Trump. And if you
vote for Trump, you got to see
people riding around treating
the American flag, like it's a
racist symbol.
Adam Curry: I think that might
be actually representative of
the cities. I mean, we know what
the heartland thinks. Yeah, the
cities are gaslit. Yeah, all of
them. But even so I thought that
was probably a pretty good
represent. I'd like it might not
be my memory. It might be it
could be I like the mummy versus
the dummy. I kind of like Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but I don't know
who's the mummy who's either.
Adam Curry: Does it matter? Does
it matter? Keith Olbermann
weighed in our buddy Keith. He,
he took it straight to
Unknown: CNN, the decision to
not fact check the firehose of
lies that is Donald Trump, that
is the entirety of his existence
and the entirety of his
campaign. The decision to not
fact check any one of those lies
by CNN was one of the most
immoral decisions in the history
of the Free Press in this
country. Literally, I am
suggesting that at some point
tonight, CNN should it will not
go off the air and shame fire
everybody seal off the
buildings, make sure everybody's
out and burn the goddamn place
to the ground.
Adam Curry: That the format was
really interesting. And the fact
that they decided not I don't
know if that was part of the
agreement and the rules, there
would be no real facts real time
fact checking. That's what
everybody wanted or resumes in
fact, check Trump in real time.
The it was a very straight up
and down format.
John C Dvorak: very steady was
dynamite that way, I don't think
the hosts are the moderators are
supposed to get people to talk
and not talk. They're not
supposed to sit there as fact
checkers. because there'll be
biased. Yeah, candidates are
supposed to fact check each
other.
Adam Curry: Let's go to another
more kind of really mainstream
report from TMZ. A very popular
a lot of people watch TMZ for
their news, see what's up with
Taylor Swift and the important
stuff like that. Look
Unknown: at that picture there.
With his mouth, a gape. I know
that his people worked for a
week with David, they were doing
this whole prep, they had a mock
Stage Right? Did a mock
candidate hit anybody videotape
it? To say here's how you should
look when you when when Donald
Trump is speaking, and you
shouldn't be looking off into
nowhere with your mouth mouth
open, right? It's like you're
looking down or there are a lot
of times where he was looking
down and his mouth was a gape,
which really scared me because I
thought, did he fall asleep? Is
he gonna fall over? Your right
leg? Isn't that just the
variables make a big difference?
And it seemed like, it seemed
like he had a lot of facts. And
even though he got them wrong,
many, many, maybe too many. But
the visual was not something
that was front was clearly it
was not a priority. And
everybody was thinking last
night, it wasn't really about
the issues, although, you know,
they spent they knew where they
both stood on right. It was just
about presentation. And you
know, I gotta say, as as bad as
it was to watch and
heartbreaking really to watch.
Look at Joe Biden leaving the
stage, Joe Biden. I mean, that
was just stunning to watch this.
After everything you'd seen for
the 90 minutes of the debate.
That was like the affirmation,
this slow walk with the First
Lady.
Adam Curry: There was at least
one good entertaining deep fake,
which circulated for a bit. Did
you see this one?
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
I don't think so. The best part
Adam Curry: is it was the it
works because someone made a
shorter version of it. Because
if you saw it and I have both
clips, if you saw the longer
version, then you understood it
was a deep fake. But this one I
was sent to me by multiple
people
Unknown: if they bring out Gavin
Newsom, or maybe Hillary
Clinton, or even Big Mike. I
mean, even
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
I said Big Mike, back to you,
Jay.
Adam Curry: So a lot of people
said, Listen to this. Now, this
is the original you this. People
actually think this. Some people
thought it was real. Absolutely.
This, the longer version is why
you wouldn't think that 33%
Unknown: Say he won the debate
tonight.
John C Dvorak: I mean, guys at
this point. I don't give a shit
if they bring out Gavin Newsom
or maybe Hillary Clinton. The
guy who this is typical they
overdo it
Adam Curry: Yeah, the shorter
version works the shorter
version was much better people
only sending me the short
version I always go look for the
long version and let's see this
John C Dvorak: if you get a play
screwy guys, I have a we have to
listen to Ching Chung.
Adam Curry: Oh my God he was
great. Chunk was phenomenal.
John C Dvorak: I actually got
the whole thing but a part two
parts of it. But you only need
to play the first one. This is
Deb annal analysis at shank
shank TYT. Young Turks
Unknown: in the whole time to
split screen is killing Biden.
Because he's got his mouth open.
He looks confused, doesn't know
where he is. And he's lost his
train of thought at least twice
in like disastrous shape. Those
are going to be played a billion
times and viral video after
viral video. This is an epic
disaster. It like I see people
online saying well, okay, that
answer was so bad. No. Does any
particular answer doesn't matter
at all. This thing is over. He
looks like he's barely
surviving. I don't mean the
debate. I mean life, then. So
there's no person that has a
single brain cell left in their
head, who thinks that Joe Biden
is the best candidate to take on
Donald Trump? You wouldn't have
to be even crazier than Donald
Trump to think that this thing
is over over. I'll guarantee you
this. I would bet any show me a
Democratic politician and I will
bet them any amount of money
that Joe Biden is going to lose
this election if he's the
candidate. It's a guaranteed
loss. You're telling me here's
the most important election of
our lifetimes. You're telling me
that democracy is on the line,
and you're gonna put on a guy
who can't even talk? Who can't
even sit there and look normal?
This thing's a bloodbath. He's
gonna get annihilated. That is,
okay. Now the Democrats have to
decide, are they happy to lose?
Are they willing to lose?
Because this is a guaranteed
loss? This is so much worse than
my worst nightmares of what it
could be like in every way. The
visual stuff is obvious. The
staring off the looking down. It
just It looks terrible. His
voice is so utterly weak and
feeble.
Adam Curry: This is that's how
every single news network should
have covered it. If certainly on
the left. That is truthful,
John C Dvorak: I guess. Jews
Thank
Adam Curry: you points to check
for that. I really do. It's like
yeah, that's that's how
everybody should have reacted.
But who controls them that they
all went in on this? On this Oh,
right. Straight to the
replacement replace Joe. It must
be big money. Because that's all
who they listened to. I mean,
there's some people saying well,
you know, it's got to be Obama I
don't I don't think so. I don't
think I don't think Obama is
running anything either. People
behind him might be
John C Dvorak: this Seymour
Hersh name some names that he
thinks was running the country.
I don't have the names in front
of me. I do have a couple more
clips along these lines is
analysis clips. I want to play
Katy Tur. I'm sorry, I gotta I
gotta take up unit laws in
junior laws and stat Katie turd
is by the way they show a lot of
these people they are so sad
looking. I mean, Rachel Maddow
look, so she's back into her
crying face. She does not look
good. She
Adam Curry: wasn't that way last
year on trade show last night
was completely had completely
restored herself. She was making
fun of Trump. She was talking
about Trump being fat, you know,
as liar orange makeup. She
completely redeemed herself. Oh,
John C Dvorak: well, good for
her. But Katy Tur This is she
goes on about the lies. I mean,
this is like his script. And
it's almost the same talking
points. Everybody has Here we
go.
Unknown: That's the devil a plot
to save America from Trump and
Democrats from themselves. Rick
Wilson. So Donald Trump last
night lied a whole lot. At one
point he talked about how
Democrats want to abort babies
outside of the womb that the
baby is delivered and the doctor
puts it aside and says we'll
figure out what to do with this
baby later. That's called
Murder. That doesn't happen.
Keep up but he got away with all
of that. He got away with lying
and lying and lying and lying.
The moderators didn't fact check
him. They fact check him they
said they were not going to Joe
Biden didn't fact check them
either.
Well look at I mean, Joe Biden
can have a bad night. But Donald
Trump every single day of his
life is a fraud, a con man, a
pathological liar, a sexual
assaulter and a felon. And so,
you know, when you saw Donald
Trump, you know, within the
first few minutes of the
bailouts that he realized he
wasn't going to get checked on
any of the crazy stories. So as
the debate progressed, he got
more and more and more and more
mana. Think about his lies and
more and more like sort of Tommy
Flanagan, you know, that's the
ticket. Yeah. The whole thing
when we just ramped up because
he knew he was getting away with
lying on the set.
But he was able to get away with
it. And he was able to pitch
himself as something he is not
to 49 million Americans who were
watching about the numbers we
think that's going to fall on.
He was able to say that January
6, wasn't a big deal that he he
offered Nancy Pelosi troops and
she said no to it. I mean, he
was able to get away with so
much last night because there
wasn't a fact check. There
wasn't effective push back. Does
that affect the election
Adam Curry: now? Okay, so this,
this to me is very obvious,
because she mentioned the
numbers, and I don't know if
that was aggregate all of CNN or
if it was everything all put
together? I'm not quite sure.
John C Dvorak: That's that 49
million is supposed to be
aggregate? No. Okay,
Adam Curry: that would make more
sense. We're going to be
inundated with this type of
analysis. For the next weeks for
sure. Maybe months, because this
is theirs. Let me let me finish
my thought. The reason is the
cable news networks finally,
finally, praise God or in their
case, praise Allah. We have
ratings. This is going to suck
everybody in now. Oh, let's keep
talking about this forever ad
nauseam.
John C Dvorak: The problem I
have with it is the gaslighting.
Well, they do. The clips of that
of the Virginia governor that we
have talking about pulling the
baby out and setting it aside.
We have those cars on the net.
Let me see. Do we you can hear
him say it. And that's what
Trump was referencing. Yeah, it
is called an infanticide. And it
is illegal, but that's what he
discussed. And that's what they
said, you know, and Trump just
extrapolates that, if that's
what you know, he's discussing
it as seriously. That's what
they want to do. That's not a
lie. And then the January 6, the
level of importance of January
6, is not a lie. It's just an
opinion. So you can't take
opinions and just call
everything a lie. And then you
had this is Rick Wilson here,
the Lincoln project guide and
Katy tours, just going off
gaslighting the public.
Adam Curry: Well, like they've
done anything different. No,
John C Dvorak: but it's just as
it's at some point, you think
that they'd stopped helping? No,
no,
Adam Curry: no, this is their
job. Now their job is, but hey,
this is great guys. We got
ratings. We got people watching
us again, we gotta keep talking
about how that wasn't true. And
it's a lie. And he's horrible.
That's their job. That's their
only job. I think they were
thrown a bit for a loop because
they did not know that Joe was
not going to be State of the
Union jacked up, Joe that they
did. None of them knew that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
obvious. Yeah. They were just
scrambling. And
Adam Curry: by the the more I
think about it, ma'am.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But he will
they
Adam Curry: is, this really is
to get Trump in and Trump is
going to build up the ix you
know, if you really follow the
logic, and they want Trump they
want Trump in because the
economy is something has to
happen is gonna happen in the
next six months. It's it's kind
of I think it might be obvious
now you and Andrew would know
better, but it seems like this
we're on kind of shaky, shaky
ground here with this phenomenal
stock market. Something is not
going to go well. The war
machine is also it's not it's
not great. Now stirring it up
with Iran. That would be great.
There's a new guy coming in who
knows who's behind that guy. You
know, they want war. Maybe we
can get China to do something
with the with Taiwan, and then
Trump will build ships and
submarines. That seems the most
logical to me. And by the way,
Trump didn't look at all
surprised at Joe. He wasn't like
Holy moly. This guy's toast.
Really only mentioned it once
about a third of the way through
like I don't think he knew what
he said. But even goes a good
line. It was but I was watching
his expressions. He didn't look
like oh, man, this is a shoo in
for me. I'm gonna slam dunk this
none of that. i Everyone was
surprised. But Trump, let's put
it that way. Would you say
that's a fair assessment?
John C Dvorak: I could see that
being an assessment of a fair he
had a quizzical look on his face
a lot of the times but you're
right he didn't he wasn't
jumping for joy noticing that
Biden was just a complete screw
up on the debate.
Adam Curry: So you know I have
another
John C Dvorak: analysis short
clip from Cuomo. I think up all
the screw with
Adam Curry: the quit the Cuomo
can or the old Andrew the caddy
John C Dvorak: corner the kid
Alright, the kid is Deb Anil
Konak Coca Cola Cuomo, frankly,
Unknown: former President Trump
who had a great Rate night, even
though he lied all the way
through unchecked. But that's
the benefit of him having worked
the refs. He got what he wanted.
They laid back. Wow,
Adam Curry: Cuomo. That's a news
nation.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, news
nation, news nation and scripts
which a lot of people can get an
over the air. We're all in the
bag for Biden interested and
they didn't like what they saw.
Adam Curry: I have. Okay, screwy
clips, except
John C Dvorak: for Fox and one
America news. Which is I don't
know what the hell's wrong with
those guys because one American
news has been playing it for the
last I'd say two or three months
they've been playing news that's
a week old. It's all offset by
about a week or two. Yeah, over
the air. And it's like, what do
you what do you guys up to with
this old news I stopped doing
shows it what's going on. But
one American News and Fox are
the only ones that actually kind
of, you know, mocked Biden,
everybody else is more serious
about their lies, lies
Adam Curry: and that's their
job. Their job is to mock Biden.
And the lies is the job of the
gas lighters on the other side.
The more I think through this,
the more it makes sense. Let's
have Trump and let's just have
years of of lies and injecting
bleach and very fine people. And
let's keep the American public
completely distracted and
preoccupied and consumed. And
let's have half the country
salute the flag. The other half
say the racist, this seems more
like the agenda than anything
else. It's so much more
beneficial. Well, it is for the
media, for the media for rich
people for the people who own
the country rich and the
shipbuilders and the
shipbuilding, the military
industrial complex, you know,
rubbing their hands on Trump
he's coming in, it'll be great
because of course, he's going to
get everyone in NATO, especially
with Margarita. The I guess they
do call them Teflon mark. Or
Dutch well, they call them teh
fall Mark I didn't know that
they Fall to Fall is Teflon in
in Dutch. Everyone will pony up
it will take all the European
money, take all of our tax money
build up its ships and
submarines are expensive. It's
much better than then, you know,
individual bullets and bombs to
build something big for the for
the pivot to the South Pacific,
Asia Pacific. Here's a chi risk
dollar and Kimberly Adams there
from marketplace, the NPR show,
which is owned by American
Public Media. They have a
podcast together who called Make
me smart. Well Does anything but
Unknown: for let's see, when was
2015, nine years ago, for nine
years, never Trumpers and some
of the Democratic Party have
been saying to Republicans who
support Trump. Open your eyes.
How do you deny what you see
that he is completely unfit? And
it's really challenging now, for
Democrats to say, Oh, you didn't
see what you saw last night?
You know,
there's there's a logical
inconsistency that becomes for
the Democrats, I think, a
problem.
You know, what I was thinking
about last night is for all we
know, Biden could have been up
the previous evening, working
through some sort of top secret
classified national security
better, you know, and that, you
know, could be one of the
reasons like not trying to make
excuses or anything like that.
But there's so much we don't
know about what happens behind
the scenes in these situations.
But that's part of the job.
Adam Curry: We have Biden in
poor performance, because he was
up all night working on top
secret documents. Please.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. You're better. Why I have a
kind of a funny clip. Matt
gates, everybody. You know, they
said, Oh, that Vice President
candidate for Trump's gonna be
at the debate. Well, everybody
was at the debate. So Matt Gaetz
came on late on Hannity show.
And Matt Gaetz was kind of a
dick. But he, he had a one liner
in here that and everybody
jumped on him. He was with
Stephen Miller and Hannity
talking about some aspects of
the debate. And about Lindsey
Graham and gates just through
this kind of Sucker Punch ed at
what Graham wasn't there, but it
was just this comment that they
both jumped on him for because
he was going he was he was
coloring outside the lines with
this combo. Oh, no. And so they
both gave him kind of jocular
nudges not to do that again, and
I just thought it was hilarious.
This is the DEB Annie. Matt gay
This clip, Lindsey Graham said
he doesn't want Donald Trump to
debate Biden again because he
doesn't want the world to watch
that again.
Unknown: That's the first war
Lindsey Graham's against. It
can't help yourself. I know
albums off, right.
Adam Curry: Okay, gates, you're
right. Kind of
John C Dvorak: douchey first
wore Lindsey Graham's against us
Adam Curry: this funny. It's
interesting. It is funny, but
John C Dvorak: he is a dick.
Adam Curry: I have a I have a
couple of clips that are not
long. CNN post debate just so we
can get a little take from
everybody. This is right after
the bait. You want to hear
those? Got a couple other. So
here's John King. He's kind of
the the elder statesman. I think
he's his former spook as well.
John King.
John C Dvorak: He's the guys
always going up against the map
and showing you trends. And
Adam Curry: he should be he has
the look, he's got a good spook,
look on him. Here we go. This
Unknown: was a game changing
debate in the sense that right
now as we speak, there is a
deep, a wide and a very
aggressive panic in the
Democratic Party. It started
minutes into the debate, and it
continues right now. It involves
party strategists and involves
elected officials. It involves
fundraisers, and they're having
conversations about the
President's performance, which
they think was dismal, which
they think will hurt other
people down the party in the
ticket. And they're having
conversations about what they
should do about it. Some of
those conversations include
Should we go to the White House
and ask the president to step
aside? Others are other the
conversations are about should
prominent Democrats go public
with that call? Because they
feel this debate was so
terrible. They do say and
moments in the debate Later, the
President got better and got his
footing. But then at the end,
even his closing statement was a
little halting the contrast
between the two candidates, let
me be clear, none of them and a
lot of Republicans don't think
Donald Trump had a great night,
Donald Trump broke the fact
check machine more than I can
count tonight. That will be on
the record as we go forward. He
refused to answer some very
specific indirect questions
about his conduct about January
6, and went all out. Okay, blah,
blah, blah.
John C Dvorak: Van, by the way,
Trump did dodge a couple of
questions, but he did it. Well,
Adam Curry: that's what you do
in a debate. Yeah. Course. I
literally literally heard
podcasts people saying, Joe, you
should have just learned your
lines and never answered the
question.
John C Dvorak: Which we should
take a short stoppage here and
discuss the possibility even
though you say because of having
an earwig. Now, Biden having a
listening device. Now we've had
a bunch of people write us and
then there was some there was a
part in the debate where you
could hear something and you I
think, had the right answer to
that, which was that it was the
I F B of the hosts or
Adam Curry: or even a camera
person who had it up too loud.
Yeah, it could be.
John C Dvorak: But there are
some clips of Biden holding
pushing against his ear because
he wanted to hear better. And
most of the time he was looking
away from Trump. And he had that
gap. Look, it's like he was
listening to something. He had a
look that he was, and I think
this accounted for a lot of
who's looking like he was out of
it. He wasn't engaged with what
Trump had to say because he
wasn't listening to Trump. I
believe he was listening to
somebody in his ear.
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Yeah. Well, I
John C Dvorak: do think so. And
I think so because based on the
fact that he would look away and
look down and have like, he was
listening like he was listening
to somebody trying to tell him I
will
Adam Curry: tell you this. I
know I'm very familiar with the
technology. I had it myself. You
would if he had an ear weakened
you would never hear it on any
mic his or anybody? No, I'm
John C Dvorak: no I agree with
you about that. About the mic
being heard. I'm talking about
his the way he acted. Yeah,
that's possible as well. It
didn't was like LISI was
listening to somebody other than
Trump. Man, he was looking away,
he was looking down, look
Adam Curry: at the big picture.
I'm really I'm starting to form
my opinion now. Just look at the
country. If Trump loses this
election, you have a very good
possibility that we just have a
lot of disorder. Would you say
that's fair?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
there's disorder now but
Adam Curry: but I mean, like,
like, like blood on the moon
disorder.
John C Dvorak: I don't know. The
public is pretty flexible.
Adam Curry: It's much better to
strive to do, I
John C Dvorak: will say this,
the public might be skittish
about the fact if Biden could
win this election. There's
something wrong.
Adam Curry: Well, something
wrong or and I'm going to come
back to it. Maybe we just have a
couple of events, a couple of
things where people think you
know, I really don't want this
guy being the commander in chief
because he seems kind of out of
it. I don't want his hand on the
button. I don't want him to be
making the calls. We really
don't want world war three.
There's a lot of that talk Trump
even brought Get up. This may or
may remember the people with the
money, they don't care. They
don't care if it's blue or red
who wins. They really don't
care. We're the schmucks who
care. But oh, we want this guy.
We want that guy. Red team red
tie, blue tie. They just want a
guy in who's going to keep the
money flowing $900 billion a
year. Let's up that a little
bit. Can we make it to one trill
for sure. And maybe 1.5 would be
high fives at one trill? Yes.
And then a couple a couple more
skirmishes something with Iran,
set it up with China, keep that
going, will keep us relatively
safe. But you want everybody on
board with that. Like, you know,
I'd much rather you know, I it's
really a problem. But okay, he
lies we keep talking about that.
But that that guy would probably
be better. In fact, the
narrative is kind of who's
running the country? What's
going to happen because this
Unknown: conversation about hey,
listen, first of all, this was
not a good interview, she
couldn't answer a simple
question about what Joe Biden
like on a day to day basis,
because this is about Kamala, I
think the honest answer is not
acceptable. That's number one.
Number two, listen to what
you're saying. The press, the
sitting President of the United
States, is so out of it and
infirm, that you're now turning
to the Vice Prez the United
States to carry your ticket in
your party when they are
currently in office, supposedly
running the country. Yeah, this
is this is a scandal. The White
House press secretary this last
few days have been telling us
Oh, the videos you've seen of
Joe Biden aren't real. They're
fakes. The US government right
now has a president and none of
us are quite sure what goes on
on a day to day basis, and
you're putting all your hopes
and dreams into the VP. Okay,
that's not that is not true. As
somebody who left that White
House about a year and a half
ago, I can tell you're a hand I
can tell you that he is he is
somebody who is very direct in
meetings behind closed but he is
great. He's well, you know, he
had a bad night tonight on the
debate stage.
I'm not disputing that. But I
can tell you he is he drives the
drives the ship and the White
House is the person who makes
the decisions. He you sit in
meetings with him. He's asking
you for details. He's always
asking you for the dang thing.
You don't have not for nothing.
And and
Adam Curry: so that's Kate
Bedingfield. She's talking to
Scott Jennings, who was the only
conservative pundit on on CNN,
and in this particular instance,
I think that's kind of where
we're gonna see it go. Like,
hey, you know, the lesser of two
evils who do you know, hey,
Trump didn't have a war when he
was president? It seems like
that's the direction I just, I
can't help but think and I'm
pretty sure Trump is in on it.
All the evidence is at least the
it's circumstantial, but the
evidence is here. He No, he
didn't. He didn't. He was like,
okay, Joe, no good. Got it. He's
raising his money. Now, all the
lawsuits are falling apart all
just in time, like really just
in time. And the news media can
have a bonanza and just let let
them loose. Let them keep
talking about the line. And then
when some event happens,
something with China something
with Iran, then people people
will come together again, we
don't want that guy will have
this guy and Jill, we'll keep
we'll keep Biden in the race.
You can do with Joe, you can
answer all the questions. Come
on, Joe. Don't give it up.
Because he truly no one can kick
him out other than a 25th
amendment. And I don't see that
happening. No,
John C Dvorak: not at this point
when he already has the
delegates. Right. The primaries
are over. Joe has enough
delegates to get the nomination.
If he wants it. They can't do
anything about it. There's not
enough super delegates and super
delegates at the Democratic
conventions. Don't vote until
the second round, but there'll
be no second round. No. So yes,
if if Biden wants to stay there,
and he does, he
Unknown: does he does I suggest
arrogant, arrogant, yet
John C Dvorak: a bedroom on this
thing. Give me a break. Why
would you not want to do that?
So
Adam Curry: and you know, as
long as people keep watching
cable news, and they'll keep
getting sucked into the oh, he
lies Oh, Joe's an idiot, oh,
Joe's toast, and they'll just
kind of forget the overall
picture of what's really
happening. Namely, we're being
robbed of our own of our money.
We're being robbed of our money.
If it's not through taxation
overall, if it's not through
taxation, then it's through
inflation by printing money to
build ships and submarines,
ships and subs. I can already
write the slogan. Big beautiful
ship.
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
argue that No, I agree. Good
idea. A couple of screwball
clips I want to play that are
off the wall. And this is part
of a long clip is actually too
long because it'll get to the
point. This is a body language
woman who came on and gave a
discussion of the debate. But
she brought something up that I
until I heard it and I talked to
me about it. It was like it is
possible that Joe was Botox to
up
Adam Curry: oh, he's What do you
mean he's filled with Botox? So,
John C Dvorak: let's listen to
this debate body language woman.
Adam Curry: Sorry, hold on a
second. Oh, here we go. It's
there's a lot
Unknown: of de lis everything
was in slow motion, his fingers
and his his lack of illustrators
when he was talking, he was like
a frozen statue up there up on
the stage. It really was painful
to watch, because I think it was
the first time that I think they
saw Donald Trump even looking
over it. Mr. Vice President
Biden, and and literally was
concerned. I mean, when he
tilted his head when he lost his
way, in the first question, he
looked over at him kind of
register that he was completely
lost. And they looked at him and
with with passion. I mean, it
was like, I felt like he was
gonna run over and give the guy
a hug, if you can. And then he
brought his head back. And then
he realized he was still off
base. And he, it looked over
again, he's like, Oh, my God,
you know, he's really has lost
his space without going through
the entire debate, because there
was a lot going up. But there
was a lot of consistency. We
already know that President
Biden lack of an effect facial
expressions, partly because it's
I don't know who gave him this
recommendation, but he was
really way too Botox doubt. And
that is a real problem one on
one, it can create some
cognitive issues, because when
you shut down those emotions
through facial aspect, it can
affect your, the way you your
brain. So it's not that Botox in
itself affects its brain. But
when we are expressing emotions,
with muscles in our face, it
creates these emotions. Okay,
same thing as actors. When that
has been frozen in space. It's
hard to, to emote an expression.
The problem was you didn't see
any movement in his top of his
forehead. Occasionally, you
would see these pinched eyebrows
only ever so slightly, because
he tried to force them. They're
trying to force him there when
he was angry. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Listen, my first
wife and my second wife had more
Botox than Joe Biden has ever
ever seen in his life. This is
not true.
John C Dvorak: What's not true
Botox
Adam Curry: and being Botox does
not affect you. We added
John C Dvorak: about six years
ago telling you
Adam Curry: I have standing
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, you do have
standing but I'm just gonna say
this clip from six years ago,
the studies have shown that if
you can't emote with your face,
your emotions fade out short no
sure.
Adam Curry: It one more thing
and then I want to play
something different. There is a
distinct possibility in this big
game. Remember, we're just the
audience. We're looking at a big
big game and for my money
everybody's in on it. It's also
possible that Joe just said
especially looking at his
performance the next day don't
get me anything. And he may even
have have hammed it up a little
bit to make himself look even
more out of it than usual.
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
us back to the Vincent the chin
gigai Okay, you're exactly
you're cheering brought up years
ago and I still think it might
still be in play which is that
you know, you act like you don't
can't you don't have a clue. But
the he is just he can't walk you
know, he's got to do well, the
Vincent the chin would also
Adam Curry: think about it,
John. We also do that the whole
cheap fakes and what happened
made the Democrats, the
Democrats, the Biden voters, the
Trump haters, the Never Trump
everyone, except the people who
want Trump president made them
all realize Joe has a problem.
So that's it. That's all the
work is done. Now we just need
to keep them there convinced
them I don't think they want the
power. The Democrats or the
Democrat party may want it but
they're low level they're low
level they're not important in
the big game ultimately. nor
other nor the Republican the
Republic, they're not important.
If we really if we really had
elections, and it really was the
We the People, it would be a
different story, but it's not
that way. This is a game. This
is a game to get us get everyone
to at least buy into Trump
because he's better than the
brain dead guy. And Jill's job
is to keep Joe motivated to keep
going. And you know, hey, we're
gonna we're gonna fade off into
the sunset. And when Trump
becomes president again, Joe's
not going to jail. There'll be
just fine. That's the I think
that's now my official take on
all this. No switcheroo. No
alternate candidate, but we'll
be talking about Big Mike and
Kamala, and, and Gavin Newsom
and Gretchen, which written
where we'll be talking about for
the least the next seven months,
then we'll go through horrendous
Democratic Convention Democrat
convention in Chicago. That'll
be the new side, and then we'll
go into vote. And they may not
even be the only maybe even only
the only people who will try to
rig it will be the Republicans
this time. Trump is in. He's in
and he's going to build big
ships, and fast submarines and
bases
John C Dvorak: plus the fastest
ever basis.
Adam Curry: The biggest shift
big beautiful ships, fast
submarines. And yeah, and then
we'll we'll still be a divided
country after that the way they
want us the way they want us
divided. It's no good if we're
all one if we all agree, it's no
good. RFK Jr, held what he
called the real debate. Did you
see me himself? Well, if you're
gonna debate, it's, it was a
master Baden exercise. And I
have three clips, because of
course, he did say things that
made sense to a degree
Unknown: and is another example
of why this debate is a problem
because these two men are the
people who ran up the deficit
that is causing the inflation.
President Trump came into office
promising to balance the budget.
Instead, he spent more money I
don't office and every president
in United States history
combined from George Washington
to George W. Bush, 283 years of
history, as an Biden is will
beat him he's already run up
$6.3 trillion in debt. And by
the end my time leaves off his
hill of run up more than
President Trump. That's why we
have inflation. Inflation is is
cause because they're printing
money to pay for for these
expenses that we don't have. And
that money is then a tax on the
poor. That's why we have a 22%
higher than in home insurance.
That's why we afford our milk
for I bred $6. Gasoline is
because of the Forever wars and
the out of control spending by
these two gentlemen. Even $34
trillion debt now. The interest
alone on that debt is costing us
more than our military budget
was in five years. 50 cents,
every dollar that we collect in
taxes will go to servicing the
debt within 10 years.
Entrepreneur said this is
existential. Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, I think Trump
will do a refi of the country.
Now they've been we know that
there's some kind of monetary
reset underway. Some kind. We
actually have the bricks out
there as a threat that looks
like everybody wants to go to a
gold backed system. Again. If
Biden can't do that, Democrats
can do that. Trump could
probably do it you could bring
Unknown: enough and all across
the board. This is this is RFK
Jr. on fentanyl, you could bring
enough and all across the border
in a briefcase to kill everybody
in Los Angeles. So the fentanyl
is going to come in this
country. The problem is
something much larger than that.
It's the it's the elites a
generation that is alienated,
that is dispersed as it is
depressed and suicidal, that is
disconnected from community. And
that's why they're turning to
drugs. And we need to deal with
that problem. And we need to
reduce demand and that my my
signature policy
Adam Curry: now listen to this
because this is this is kind of
creepy.
Unknown: Thank you is is to
begin taxing marijuana federally
by the DEA schedule it from
schedule one right where it is
now. The federal government is
not allowed to tax it. So
marijuana is legal in many
states, but the federal
government cannot collect taxes
on it. It's legal, it's not
going to whether you can tax it
or not. It's not going to affect
the number of people are using
it our mountains use. We're
going to D schedule it so the
government could start
collecting taxes now we'll raise
$8.5 billion in revenue. I'm
going to dedicate that money to
building drug rehabilitation
farms, wellness farms,
restoration farms. Know in rural
areas all over this country.
Americans go for free to deal
with depression, suicidal
behavior, alcoholism, drug
addiction to illegal drugs, but
also addiction to SSRIs to
benzos Adderall we need to
reclaim our children. He's
Adam Curry: literally going to
build funny farms. That's that
doesn't sound like a great idea.
And then here's this all of this
of course is not made for TV. No
one cares about this and people
don't Want to hear this they
want to read red tie blue tie a
real
Unknown: patriotism means
protect the United States
Constitution. And with a and
both of them subverted the right
to free speech what are the most
important right? As it Biden 37
hours after he took the oath of
office, this has never happened
in American history. He opened a
portal, the FBI, CIA, Siza, NIH,
D H. S, the IRS and other
agencies to go in and and tamper
with with social media sites to
take out things that were not
politically palatable. They
violated freedom of worship, the
two of them are shutting down
every church in this country
with no sides think citation. If
violated freedom of assembly
with mass regulations, they shut
down the Seventh Amendment right
to jury trials by saying you
couldn't sue somebody who was
involved in quote, COVID Cat
image no matter how negligent
that corporation where the
biggest corporations in the
world no matter how reckless
their behavior, no matter how
grievous your injury, you could
not sue them and shut down 3.3
million businesses with no due
process note just compensation
and violation the Fifth
Amendment. It shuts down the
Fourth Amendment's prohibition
against warrantless searches and
seizures with this track and
trace surveillance. That was the
all out assault on the
constitution that we've never
seen the likes of that anytime
in American history. And I don't
believe they have the right to
wear those American flag pens.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right. I
totally agree. But no, Bobby, no
one no one wants to hear that.
He also has the worst voice. I'm
sorry. You just that's just in
the doesn't and now that I think
about it, I'd like the guy seems
okay. But you can't have a
president with that voice. It's
just that doesn't work doesn't
work. Doesn't work. That
John C Dvorak: was the idea when
they gave him that voice.
Unknown: You're horrible.
Adam Curry: Well, we shall see.
But I I don't think we'll see.
Any real replacement happening.
We're just gonna have endless it
does a lot for the controlled
opportunists. You know, the
Megyn Kelly's the Candace Owens.
Everyone can talk and talk and
talk and talk. Now Tucker can
talk and talk and talk.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's Did
you see a second speech that he
gave in Australia
Adam Curry: was funny. Yeah, it
John C Dvorak: was funny. It was
it was good. It was almost
borderland stand up with that
second speech.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was good.
John C Dvorak: But what's he
doing there?
Adam Curry: But he's creating a
narrative he's creating. He
John C Dvorak: was originally we
thought he wanted to have an
interview with Assange. But
doesn't seem Why does he have to
stay there for that gap? And
Adam Curry: I think that Tucker
is is leading the alternative
media in a way. So everyone's
emboldened to speak, like he
speaks and says what he says,
and suck everybody in and we'll
all be preoccupied with it. But
I think people should do one
thing. The two things a week,
listen to no agenda, and then go
outside and play with your kids.
Read a book, roll in the grass,
John C Dvorak: walk the dog,
just listening to no agenda and
reading a book is the way to go.
Pretty much
Adam Curry: all you need. There
was a very sad moment, something
unexpected, and, obviously food
for conspiracy therapists such
as myself, I was very distressed
to hear this. This is chip Roy
on the floor of the house. We
were
Unknown: all saddened to learn
today of the passing of the
spouse and one of our members.
Thomas Massie, the gentleman
from Kentucky, his wife, Rhonda,
of many years, they were
childhood sweethearts. She
suddenly passed away yesterday,
Mr. Massey had to drive home to
Kentucky and be home with his
family, which is where he is
today. I would ask everybody in
the chamber and everybody around
the complex to please rise
Adam Curry: and absorb a moment
of silence and offer your
prayers and thoughts and
condolences for our good friend
from Kentucky. Dude, what are
the chances of that? The guy
comes out talks about AIPAC
being no good they're not
allowed in his office. He really
laid out a lot of truths and and
obvious things that are just not
discussed on Tucker just list a
couple of weeks ago and then at
51 I think his wife dies
suddenly died on like, suddenly
I don't like that at all. Very
sad, but also Whoa, are you
kidding me now?
John C Dvorak: You do not hear
Vax zaharie No, no, no,
Adam Curry: no, not from them.
Nope, nope, nope. Nope. Not from
them. They were not Vax. You
sure yes. Yes. Did you ever see
the full interview with Tucker
that he did?
John C Dvorak: No, I only
watched the clip. It's clip.
It's the clip. It's
Adam Curry: Clifford's. So now,
I think it all comes back to,
you know, just people got to
stop being mind controlled that
some daddio is going to come
into the White House and fix
your business. No, that's not
going to happen. But they want
you to think that no matter who
it is, they want you to feel
before
John C Dvorak: we get off the
topic, which is coming, I can
tell ya, I think I think we're I
have two Biden clips where he
actually talks and I want to get
these out of the way. Okay. I
also have the one where he says
that people should be more
concerned about being women
should be concerned about being
raped by their sister.
Adam Curry: Everyone sees
everybody saw it. But okay.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't want
to play that Oh, involved, but
you
Adam Curry: have it.
John C Dvorak: I do have if you
want to play,
Adam Curry: we might as well
play it. So
Unknown: there's so many young
women who have been including a
young woman who just was
murdered. And he went to the
funeral. The idea that she was
murdered by a wife by an
immigrant coming into a talk
about that, but here's the deal.
There's a lot of young women to
be raped by their by their in
laws, by their by their spouses,
or sisters, by it's just
ridiculous. And they can do
nothing about it. And they try
to rest them on the Cross State
Line. Thank
you. You
Adam Curry: know, they must have
rehearsed that with him. And
they're like, oh, this would be
great. Joe, when you say this,
the Republicans will go crazy.
John C Dvorak: Which of course
everybody will they did. They
wish they did. Of course it's so
now the thing that I thought was
the key Gala, two more clips,
and I'm not gonna play anymore.
But this is a Biden that I
thought the key gaff was this
one. And this is the one where
Trump kept looking over there
and going, this guy's off the
rails to 29 second clip, this is
the Biden key, gaff Medicare,
make
Unknown: sure that all those
things we need to do child care,
elder care, making sure that we
continue to support and
strengthen our healthcare
system, making sure that we're
able to make every single
solitary person eligible for
what I've been able to do with
the with the COVID Excuse me
with dealing with everything we
have to deal with. If we finally
beat Medicare, thank you
precedent.
John C Dvorak: What had they had
the Fauci wizard, you know?
Adam Curry: Oh, you know, Tom
Starkweather, did an endo show
mix is beautiful because about
it's about a minute and it's it
is the I mean, it's an
evergreen, it's the debate of
2024 in one minute. And and he
was doing a play by play on
Mastodon of how it was editing
it. And he says that Biden
literally has only three seconds
of breath every single time he
speaks. He could see it in the
waveforms. It was three seconds.
He couldn't do anything more
than three seconds of breath for
anything. He said. You can count
it. Yeah, when you speak. Wow.
Yeah, it was that was pretty
interesting how it was
deconstructing that on the fly.
Now,
John C Dvorak: the only one I
want to play, which is the
absolute first comments made at
the debate, where Biden comes
out, and he and I only have the
first few first few seconds of
this. What is this is a debate.
First comments, Biden is one
minute 16 out of two.
Immediately, and I'm gonna ring
the bell. He starts lying, he
started, he's the one who
started the lying. And he starts
it with he comes out they asked
him a simple question. He lies
three or four times in the first
minute and then he goes on and
lies about insulin and Medicare
and the amount of people amount
of money people have to pay. And
this was nobody wants to talk
about him being a bigger liar
than Trump says
Unknown: remain high. Since you
took office, the price of
essentials has increased, for
example, a basket of groceries
that cost $100 Then now costs
more than $120. And typical home
prices have jumped more than
30%. What do you say to voters
who feel they are worse off
under your presidency than they
were under President Trump?
We're gonna take a look at what
I was left. When I became
President. Mr. Trump left. We
had an economy that was in
freefall, the pandemic why we
handled, many people were dying.
All he said was it's not that
serious. just inject a little
bleach and your arm could be our
economy collapsed. For no job.
Why? Rose to 50% It was
terrible. And so what we had to
do is try to put things back
together again. That's exactly
what we began to do. We created
50,000 new jobs. We brought out
a position where we have 800,000
manufacturing jobs, but there's
more to be done. There's more to
be done working class people are
still in trouble. I come from
Scranton, Pennsylvania, I come
of household, where to kitchen
table if things weren't able to
be met during the month was a
problem. Price, the base the
price of gas, the price of
housing, the price, a whole
range of things. That's why I'm
working so hard to make sure I
deal with those parts. Oops. And
we're going to make sure they're
here.
Adam Curry: Well, you could
really hear the three second
cadence
John C Dvorak: that yes, you
Yep. And now that he's done
that, as I really listened to
that clip, and I could hear that
three seconds. Now it's going to
be totally annoying to listen to
Biden.
Adam Curry: Or you'll know that
it's the guy in the mask if he
goes beyond three seconds
because that can't be Biden.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that could be
that's a good point. The mask
doesn't have the same teeth.
Adam Curry: Anyway, make sure
you go outside play with the
kids, everybody. Don't get
suckered into this is not worth
it. With right now. I'm telling
it's all going to go the way you
want it. It's going to be fine.
We'll have big beautiful ships,
very fast subs, they go deeper
than anything else. Beautiful
bases with beachfront. It's
fantastic. It's all going to be
good and you're gonna pay for it
one way or the other. And the
financial you know, Trump all of
a sudden you notice he's like,
I'm all good with Bitcoin.
Bitcoins. Okay, Bitcoin. Yeah,
it'd be great for Bitcoin. I
think that's only because he
knows there's going to be some
kind of digital dollar. That
resets gotta happen. Doesn't
that have happened? We had
financial resets globally in the
in the hundreds of years, we
must have had some kind of
resets throughout the years.
Would you know anything about
that?
John C Dvorak: Maybe World War
One? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Not after World War
Two didn't then doesn't that
when we got
John C Dvorak: going on World
War Two, we actually did a good
job of getting everybody back on
their feet. When would you
Bretton Woods
Adam Curry: after World War One?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And
World War Two.
John C Dvorak: There was some
some some divisions going on in
World War Two where we divided
things up divvied things up. A
big reset, I don't know. I'm not
convinced
Adam Curry: of this. No, not big
reset financial reset. Now,
John C Dvorak: that could be
something that there could be,
we could have a stock market
crash. Well, that seems a given.
I've been saying that ever
since. Yeah, CrossOver 40,000.
When I've seen this before I saw
this in the mail as a kid. They
market gets to some point, it
just has this spot where it has,
it won't, it'll go over a bump
against it. And it keeps trying
and trying and trying to go over
and is sitting there below as
you as it would do. And then try
to make a run at it again. And
then it's somehow it just like
some psychological thing takes
place. There's no it's not going
to happen. And then the whole
thing just falls apart. It will
break was that the world war two
will be about party take place
in about six months.
Adam Curry: Right? Well, that's
the perfect timing. That's why
they will be in to fix it. Yeah.
And he will fix it and, and they
have this may have already been
concocted already. If you didn't
figure it out. And that's when
we get the mark of the beast.
All right, there was something
else that went down a couple of
interesting rulings from the
Supreme Court as they are ready
to go on vacation. They've had
to extend it. How are they gonna
have to do one more on Monday?
Hmm. But there was a couple
interesting things in there. You
discuss it three in the
newsletter and one of them is
one that we've been talking
about for several months on the
no agenda show I'd like the
people emailed and said, I knew
what this was about because of
you guys
Unknown: tonight three colossal
decisions with far reaching
consequences. The High Court
narrowing who can be charged
under a federal law that dates
back to Enron were recently used
to prosecute more than 200
people who stormed the Capitol
on January 6. The justice is
opening the door now to possible
resentencing or even read trials
for roughly a few dozen still
behind bars. At least one judge
moving quickly today asking
prosecutors to weigh in on next
steps with a handful of
defendants former President
Trump likely not impacted by
today's ruling, nor most other
people who were charged with
other crimes related to January
6, in another major case, the
High Court knocking down a 40
year old rule of its own making
that required judges to defer to
federal agencies when
interpreting vague laws passed
by Congress. That practice known
as the chevron framework, long
targeted by conservatives is
Adam Curry: an interesting she
said framework instead of
deference. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, actually
deference is a term that kind of
cropped up in the documents
himself. It's called the chevron
doctrine.
Adam Curry: Yes, doctrine, but
not the framework. Nobody uses
that. We've
Unknown: argued it gives
unelected bureaucrats too much
power, the decision likely to
prompt a rush of lawsuits,
challenging regulations on
everything from food safety to
the environment. Also, today,
the courts conservative majority
upholding laws banning people
experiencing homelessness from
sleeping outdoors, finding no
violation of the Constitution's
prohibition on cruel and unusual
punishment, drawing a sharp
dissent from the liberals. With
Justice Sotomayor writing sleep
is a biological necessity, not a
crime.
Adam Curry: So let's go in
reverse order here. Do you have
any any clips on the on the
outdoor sleeping camping ruling?
No,
John C Dvorak: I did have a
couple that were kind of lined
up. I never took them. But it's
mostly guys ranting about cruel
and unusual punishment. Let's
Adam Curry: just go back to the
history of this because it
actually, although this case was
brought from Oregon, and we
followed this for years, yeah,
it came out it really came out
of Idaho, exactly, Idaho. And
they decided up there, we can't
move people's tents. And some
consultants came in and said,
Oh, no, that's cruel, unusual
punishment, punishment. And that
really started off the entire
homelessness, visibility. And I
don't want to say homelessness
isn't real.
John C Dvorak: But the
visibility homelessness is what
been around but but this visible
homelessness on the city streets
of San Francisco, Los Angeles,
Boston and elsewhere in New
York, that all came out of this
Idaho idea that this is to Moose
takes to have a vagrancy laws to
Hey, buddy, get you and your
tent off the street. That's
somehow cruel, and unusual,
hostile, unusual. It's been
going on forever. 200 years of
the vagrancy laws. It's not
unusual. So it's not cruel and
unusual. It's not even cruel.
It's just, you know, it's just
the way it is. I mean, it's like
giving somebody a traffic ticket
and saying, well, that traffic
is cruel and unusual. It's
Adam Curry: a biological
necessity. John says our Supreme
Court. The the problem I have
with it is it really took away a
lot of resources and, and
government cycles from solving
the actual problem to people
instead, we're arguing about
this about is it cruel, Is that
unusual? Is it punishment, and
meanwhile, it also deteriorated
the streets of the cities. It
made it. It made it a mess and
really diverted attention away
from helping people in this
situation, which to me is the
true crime. Then the other one,
before we get to Chevron is the
January 6 ruling. I thought this
was very interesting. Here's an
overview. Breaking news this
time about sorry, here's
breaking news about it. Breaking
news this time about the January
6 writers the Supreme Court has
just ruled that's good to
Shannon Bream. What did they
say?
Unknown: So what they have said
is that one of the statutes, the
Justice Department used to
charge hundreds of different
January six defendants is no
good. And that includes
President Donald Trump because
he has actually had two of these
counts against him. And the Jack
Smith DC case against him that
federal criminal case that has
been on hold here. So what
essentially they say is this
statute which was passed in the
wake of Enron, they say it
doesn't fit here. He says, given
that this subsection was enacted
to address the Enron disaster,
not some other far flung set of
dangers, like what happened just
right over here. at the Capitol,
it is unlikely that Congress
responded with such an unfocused
and grossly incommensurate patch
in English. That essentially
means that all of these people
who were charged under this
particular obstruction statute
for January 6, that is no good.
The dissent is this is a very
interesting vote makeup because
the dissent is actually written
by Justice Barrett and she is
joined by justices Sotomayor and
Kagan. She says that Congress
did intend for this kind of
conduct to be brought under this
particular obstruction charge,
he thinks the majority got it
wrong. But what it means is a
big headache for the DOJ and
good news for hundreds of
January six defendants charged
under this statute, again,
including President Trump,
Adam Curry: it was interesting
that Barrett went, went against
the majority on this one, she's
turning out to be kind of not
what people expected from her.
John C Dvorak: She's just the
independent thinker. That's all
I can say. And she was, in fact,
the other thing is, where's the
Catan? g brown? Yeah, I'm crazy
black woman went on the other
side of it. I know. So the two
flip flop that maybe Maybe they
had a deal?
Adam Curry: Jonathan Turley,
luckily, he gave us a little
explanation. I trust his
opinion. Yeah, he's good on what
this means for people who are
still in jail, people who've
been sentenced and for President
Trump's case that Jack Smith, a
special prosecutor is running
Unknown: two aspects to this,
some of them were convicted of
what is now established would be
improper charges. I mean, we
they that hundreds of people
were the subject of improper
charges by the Justice
Department. That includes
President Trump, who has not
been tried yet. They were also
sentenced based on this
conviction as well as a mix of
other things. So those
sentencing decisions now have to
be reevaluated. I've said all
along that I was surprised by
how heavy the Department of
Justice went on obstruction. I
analogize that to someone going
to Vegas and playing roulette,
but only betting read it well.
Basically, the court just said
reds not a bad. So we've got to
go back and look at In all of
these cases, not just for those
who now have these convictions
knocked out, but how they impact
sentencing for President Trump.
This is a big day. I mean, I've
said all along that Fisher's
needs to be treated as important
as the immunity decision
potentially for Trump. It
basically rips the wings off the
plane that Jack Smith is trying
to get off the ground in DC now,
can he push that plane forward?
On the runway? I don't know.
Because if you take this this
claim out, it's really integral
to his entire complaint. I mean,
it's hard to see all the
complaint holds together, if he
was excessive and wrong in
bringing these charges.
Adam Curry: Excuse me. All
right. So that that looks good
for Trump looks good. For the
January 6 People were really
starting to clear up a lot of
things here at the end of Joe
Biden's reign of terror. And
then we get to the one that we
are most interested in, which is
Chevron deference, which you've
been following and and looking
into and explaining actually
have a an analysis from our
constitutional lawyer. Rob,
here's the MSNBC quick take. On
Unknown: Friday, the Supreme
Court handed down a decision to
reduce the power of federal
agencies by gutting the long
standing legal precedent of
Chevron versus Natural Resources
Defense Council that gave
federal agencies broad
regulatory power. The justices
may be driving key legal
decisions in our country right
now. But there are subjects that
they probably don't know much
about. I mean, to my knowledge,
Chief Justice Roberts is not a
chemical engineer, Justice Brett
Kavanaugh is not a botanist. And
last I checked, Justice Amy
Coney Barrett is not a member of
the Federal Reserve. But that's
what this ruling implies that
these justices are experts in
fields outside of the law better
than the people who get paid to
make these decisions in the
federal government.
Adam Curry: Now, this is
obviously the narrative that is
going to be spun. That's why I
played that clip. But I need
your expertise for this next
analysis, which comes to us from
man joy, read getting play these
days. She's primetime. Listen to
this, because you are sub
subject expert in this
conversation.
Unknown: Okay, Ali, what is
Chevron deference and long may
it rest?
Yeah. So okay. People understand
that Congress passes the laws,
and the President enforces the
law. Right. So Congress passes
all let's say, it's called the
Clean Water Act. Right. And then
the president through the
executive agency of the EPA
defines what the Clean Water Act
actually means. Now, people
might home might say, like, Oh,
why can't Congress define it?
Well, Congress doesn't define
words like clean. Congress
doesn't define words like water.
So who was who's going to make
the decision as to how much lead
is actually allowed to be in the
water before it's clean experts?
Who's going to make the decision
about what constitutes water? Is
it a pool isn't a puddle? Is it
a river? Is it a lake? Who gets
to make that decision experts
for the last 40 years, it's been
experts at the EPA. Okay. But as
of today, the only people
entrusted to make that decision,
according to the Supreme Court
is the Supreme Court. So what
was the Supreme Court making the
biggest power grab over our
elected government since really
the founding since 1803, when
the Supreme Court invented the
idea of calling laws
unconstitutional, which has not
actually been the Constitution
since then, this is the next
hugest thing, because what the
Supreme Court is saying that it
can do the job that the
Constitution gives to the
President of the United States
Adam Curry: completely off base
off kilter. Basically a lie. And
the Clean Water Act, which is a
I looked at it it's very, very
big piece of legislation was
really a funding bill. It was a
funding bill to set up a lot of
agency, X expertise, and
reporting structure, there was
no determination of how much
lead can be in the water. That
was that's not in the Clean
Water Act. Is there anything?
There's a piece that is more
pertinent to you coming up? Is
there anything you want to say
about this other than that's a
lie? That's not how it works?
John C Dvorak: It's a lie.
That's not how it works. I will
mention that what difference
does it make in terms of the
Chevron deference, we have to
remember, came in 1984. And we
had these agencies the
administrative state was alive
and well, for sensitive I don't
know the authorities says the
Franklin Roosevelt
administration and on and I
guess even before that, to some
lesser extent, because there was
a Bureau of Land Management in
the Indian bureaus and all the
rest of it. They had gotten Long
just fine without have without
all of a sudden becoming the be
all end all of legislation where
I owe some expert in this
bullcrap. This entire case the
case that the God Chevron
deference thrown out is the
rimando case. And that's where
the fishermen, fishermen, were
told that they have to have an
inspector on their boat at $170
a day, and they have to pay for
the inspector. Because some
bureaucrat decided that's the
easiest bit better so easier on
our budget if you have to pay
what expertise does that take
what kind of blue this is great
expertise? No, it's not it's
somebody deciding you have to
pay 170 bucks a day on a small
fishing boat to keep this
inspector on the boat when the
government should be paying for
the inspector not you was that
the number and that's what it
all stemmed is all stems around
this so called experts, these
experts. That's only at some at
a very thin layer. There's most
of the time these people are
just out there doing
bureaucratic paperwork is this
is the most nonsensical thing
I've ever heard.
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
reason that they're they're
taking this this tact we'll get
to it. But first analysis from
our constitutional lawyer Rob
former jag here he is, Justice
Kagan's dissent predicts
judicial mayhem. She foresees,
quote, large scale disruption
and a massive shock to the legal
system, casting doubt on many
settled constructions of
statutes and threatening the
interests of many parties who
have relied on them for years.
Rob says nonsense. This decision
won't strip administrative
agencies of their interpretive
powers. They will continue to do
what they've always done, issued
rules and regulations and
interpret those edicts when the
time comes to enforce them. The
only difference now is that
courts no longer have to defer
to what the agency says his
prediction. Courts will still
view agency interpretations as
persuasive authority under a
doctrine called Skidmore
deference. And we'll accept
those. I'd like that Skidmore,
just sounds like a cool name.
And we'll accept those
interpretations. Most of the
time, no judicial Armageddon is
at hand but going forward,
agencies can no longer come up
with strange but permissible,
interpret interpretations. And
expect the courts to capitulate.
Big corporations can no longer
place their people in the
agencies to make lopsided rules
that will benefit well connected
business interests at everyone
else's expense. This is good
news. Nor does yesterday's
decision mean that all
precedents following Chevron are
now bad law. The fact is most of
these cases probably would have
been decided the same way
because in most cases, the
agency's interpretation was
probably the most persuasive
option. We should expect a few
old decisions to be overruled,
but that will take time. And
let's face it, bad laws ought to
die anyway, I think that's
pretty fair.
John C Dvorak: I think that's
pretty on the money. And and
that's true. That's it's going
to change. It's not going to
change that much. But the idea
of agency capture is kind of
maybe out the window, this whole
idea that all of a sudden some
agency and agency decides that
we have to go all electric by
2030. That's not our law.
Anybody passes us some agency
decision that is then used as
leverage by the Democrat Party
mostly, or a CDC is out the
window
Adam Curry: or a CDC vaccine
mandate. That kind of stuff.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. That was a
lot of stuff. Well, yeah, those
guys are hopeless. Now.
Adam Curry: Now, here's an
interesting clip. And this is
where your I think this is the
one where you are domain and
subject expert.
Unknown: Oh, hahahahaha. You're
saying that in the Clean Water
Act, rather than the agency like
the EPA, which has experts in
clean and water? Oh, the Supreme
Court will decide what clean and
water are? Yes, the
Supreme Court now gets to
overrule the EPA decision on
what constitutes clean water
where the water is supposed to
go. It's same with clean air the
EPA, the EPA, the Supreme Court
now gets to overrule the EPA on
how much carbon monoxide can be
in the air. How much nitrous
oxide awake, nitrous oxide is
laughing gas. Nitrogen oxides
are smug and Neil Gorsuch got
that wrong yesterday.
Adam Curry: So they're trying to
make a point here that Neil
Gorsuch said nitrous oxide,
John, your domain expert.
Nitrous oxide is not just
laughing gas is it?
John C Dvorak: Well, it's not
much more I mean, it's a nitrous
oxide is also used as an oxidant
for drag racers. Yes, I mean,
it's a very useful gas as a as
an oxidant. And it
Adam Curry: also creates climate
change.
John C Dvorak: And nitrous oxide
not so much though. But I will
say this, that the whole idea
that you Okay, so I made a
blunder, he said nitrous oxide.
Somebody should have corrected
him on that. The idea that At
these guys are all going to
knuckle under and the Supreme
Court is going to make all these
decisions is just unbelievable
nonsense.
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
whole point of the counter
narrative on Chevron deference
is to get rid of the Supreme
Court,
Unknown: I feel like the way
this is gonna go is because when
they did, for instance, the
ruling on bump stocks, Clarence
Thomas just lifted the
description of bump stocks from
a right wing pro gun
organization and dropped that in
and said, basically, the people
who said this is not a machine
gun don't know what they're
talking about, because that
organization did. Because when
you say the Supreme Court is
going to now decide, doesn't
that mean the big corporations
who they like the rich people
that they like, and the right
wing organizations that they
like, that's really who's going
to decide, right? Yes,
it's people who are in Harlan
crows yacht that's allowed to be
in water or not. And look, this
is the this is why they did it.
Right. The what's going to
happen now, is that any
regulation, the Supreme Court
likes that will be upheld, and
any regulation, the Supreme
Court doesn't like that will be
overturned. And that is what
they told us they could do.
Again, this is not in the
Constitution, though. There's no
constitutional clause or power
that gives the students a
Supreme Court this right? They
aggrandized it to themselves,
and they took it away from the
President, and they took it away
from Congress. It's amazing.
Adam Curry: They keep saying the
Supreme Court is the courts, not
just the Supreme Court, the
courts, the courts, you know,
can now say, Hey, hold on a
second, send this back to
Congress, make it unambiguous
your order, you know, show us
the experts. I mean, it's there,
just try it. And again, this is
going to be inundated with this.
John C Dvorak: I was gonna
mention that, by the way.
Nitrous oxide is a greenhouse
gas,
Adam Curry: I told you. It is of
course it is. But the whole the
John C Dvorak: why, of course,
why would we of course, because
Adam Curry: these people are too
stupid to even bring that in.
They think it's only laughing
gas. And then just Neil Gorsuch
was dope. Oh, he sent it all
wrong.
John C Dvorak: We're gonna do
well, there's so much in the
atmosphere.
Adam Curry: Anyway, well, it
doesn't come from burning fossil
fuels as well. You
John C Dvorak: get you actually
get you get nitric oxides from
that's why you have a platinum
catalytic converter in your car.
So
Adam Curry: you don't crack up
laughing?
John C Dvorak: No, it's like,
no, it's because you get these
you get really extreme nitric
oxides, including I think,
nitric oxide, which I mean,
which is, is used to make a
nitric acid with nasty, nasty
acid. And it just goes into and
yeah, you can smell it when
sometimes you get this is a very
sweet, interesting aroma of
nitric, various nitric oxides.
But the one that makes nitric
acid three and both three, I
think I'm not sure and whatever
the case is that you have to get
that out of there because it's
nasty. And I guess some nitrous
oxide might come out of the of
the tank. Out of the gas, I
mean, out of the out of the
engine may be I don't think can
be that much.
Adam Curry: Anyway, this will be
another talking point and was
talking point, the Supreme Court
now controls your life that
that's what they're going to
say.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And isn't
it and the Supreme Court is like
everybody else, they don't want
to do any extra work. Now they
want to go on vacation sitting
there going oh, yeah, we get to
Laurie we get to meet the boss.
That's why they're taken. After
Monday. They're on vacation.
What kind of operation is this?
Adam Curry: The only thing that
have left is Oh, we got a rule
on that. On that responsibility
thing is can you indemnify the
president? Ha that's going to be
annoying.
John C Dvorak: I think they can
put it off again. Ooh.
Adam Curry: When do they go? Oh,
that's interesting.
John C Dvorak: Why not just say
oh, after the we'll figure it
out later. We gotta go. We gotta
vacation time. The yacht is
booked at Central Pay. The yacht
is already waiting for me. Yeah.
And Clarence Thomas says, Yeah,
I got this friend of mine. He's
got a jet. He's flying me off.
But I gotta leave.
Adam Curry: I got no time for
that. Oh, that that could be
although it's my understanding.
They will rule on it Monday.
John C Dvorak: Yes. What they
said they're supposed to have
done it Friday. No,
Adam Curry: this is a tough one.
Because, you know, if they if
they say to if they say to
Trump, well, you know, you don't
have full indemnification. Then
Biden's on the hook to then then
the whole social Obama with his
kill list. Yeah. Then everything
then everything. Everybody's on
the hook. They just can't do it.
They can't do it. Hey, with
that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage, Mr. Dvorak. In
fact, I'd like to say in the
morning to you the man who put
the sea in the clown show say
hello to my friend on the other
end the one the only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
Mr. Adam curry in the morning
all ships to see boots on the
ground, feet in the air. subs in
the water all the names on
knights out there.
Adam Curry: Troll still
looks like looks like church
showed up? We got 2516 Trolls
versus 1863 On the last Sunday
show.
John C Dvorak: Yes, because of
this debate thing everyone wants
to hear what we have to say. I
hope we did I got lots of notes.
Oh, I'm really looking forward
to the show.
Adam Curry: I hope they they
understand our opinion on this.
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure we
understand our own opinion but I
do hope so.
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John C Dvorak: I have a screwy
clip I'd like to get out of
here. You're just filled with
screwy clips today. I know
today's scurry clip did for me
screwy clip day. This is Bill
Maher with Tulsi Gabbard and
Chris Matthews. After hours this
is not on the show is on the
webcast. Do
Adam Curry: they do that on see
at CNN the after hours are only
on the web. So
John C Dvorak: I've get it off
to YouTube. So I think the web,
I don't think CNN knows how to
do it. And this would really
kind of cough caught me off
guard, because I did not expect
any of this. And I don't think
Mark expected the answer from
Tulsi. And, and it's about
Julian Assange and was a good
guy or a bad guy. And I was
actually kind of surprised by
this. Okay,
Adam Curry: now that Wikileaks
founder, Julian Assange, Oh,
good. Let's get to this. I mean,
so as pled guilty to espionage
and secured his freedom, I
didn't see this coming. By the
way, I didn't think he'd ever
get out. What will his legacy
be? Yes, I'm served. Time
served, he served six years. And
that's pretty getting their term
and his legacy. And that's what
I want to know. Is he a heroic
Crusader exposing government
lies? Or he is a reckless
trader? Who was endangering our
freedom?
Unknown: Yeah. I mean, it
depends who you ask. I think
that the more Mexican you have
been, I mean, I think that he
is, he is an example of of the
his prosecution, the charges
against him, are one of the
biggest attacks on freedom of
the press that we've seen and
freedom.
Go the other way.
Ellsberg looks very good right
now. And what he did, and the
Pentagon Papers was about how
the Kennedy administration and
Johnson administration, not
Nixon, what they did the lie
about the war?
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
all the particulars. I mean,
you'd have to really spend
months and months going through
the amount of put stuff he put
out. But in general, I think the
world is full of bad people.
Like I was saying to Ray, the
world's full of bad people. And
yeah, I think sometimes you need
somebody to put the hammer down.
I think Obama said this, and
just say, I'm sorry, you can't
expose our secret agents. And we
have to think of our security
first. I mean, yes, I'm sure the
government does some gnarly
things. But I don't like this. I
don't like a guy who pretends
that he's the patriot, when it's
the spies out there who are
protecting this country, not
Julian Assange, because there
are
Unknown: people who wants to
destroy this country.
Adam Curry: And there are people
who are plotting to get nuclear
weapons and all the rest of it.
And this guy is not the one
who's who's who made sure that
we have not really been attacked
since 911. Oh, brother.
John C Dvorak: Tell me about it.
And by the way, I want to ask, I
would just ask a rhetorical
question about Julian Assange
being a traitor. He's not an
American. How is he a traitor?
How do you How can you be a
traitor? If you're like a
Russian, for example,
Adam Curry: right, you're trying
to put intelligence into Bill
Maher's head, which I just can't
go along with. He is one of the
most uninformed people on
television. He really only reads
the New York Times. He really
knows nothing. He seems like a
nice guy to smoke a doobie with
which I don't do anymore. But
otherwise now. He's just he's,
he's ill informed. I saw the I
did see the show with with
Tulsi. She actually is the one
she brought up. Well, Biden has
the nuclear code. She was the
first one to say it. I thought
that was interesting. She's kind
of vapid. I'm not quite sure.
What is she doing?
John C Dvorak: She's showing up
on a lot of talk shows. I don't
know what she's what she's doing
for a living. Yeah, that is talk
shows camp, they you know,
they're paid minimum wage, if
Adam Curry: anything, nothing
you get nothing for appearing on
those shows. But
John C Dvorak: you can get some
things. Maybe CNBC shows a
challenge every time.
Adam Curry: Okay, those were the
days when he got our money in a
brown paper bag. We had 24 hour
day Limo Service cable was
rockin baby. Those days are
over, whatever those days are
over. No, no, no, no, no. No,
no. She's I think she has some
kind of foundation or something.
I don't know. You know what? I
was just seeing her sitting
there. I'm like, wow, could she
be a Trump vice presidential
candidate?
John C Dvorak: Did people have
suggested it?
Adam Curry: Just kind of hit me.
Not that it's something I took
seriously, but it did enter my
mind. Like why we're on
John C Dvorak: the topic. We
should discuss at least our
theories on who's going to be
the vice presidential candidate.
And I'm really good at this
because I nailed that I got
through. I'm the one who picked
the Alaskan woman at way in
advance. Alaska. I'm telling
you, I have no idea who's
Trump's gonna pick on this one.
Is it woody pig? Byron Donald,
who I think is the superstar of
that group. Because he talks
like a champ and he's just got
the good looking and he's got an
mean spirited just what you
want. And I
Adam Curry: want that guy from
what's that? What's the black
guy? Michigan. No, not Michigan,
Missouri. Who's that guy?
John C Dvorak: But black guy
from Missouri. Yeah, he's
Adam Curry: like a He's almost
like a preacher.
John C Dvorak: We played a clip
from him using it but the North
Carolina No, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry, North
Carolina. That's it. Yeah. Yeah,
he
John C Dvorak: is he I think he
is a preacher.
Adam Curry: There you go. I
John C Dvorak: like that.
There's no that guy has to that
guy is out there. There's no
way. What's that guy? What's his
name? Like? Unbelievable.
Adam Curry: I love that guy.
He's fantastic. He's
entertaining.
John C Dvorak: And then you have
the JD Vance, which a lot of
people think he's gonna get it.
Adam Curry: But he's kind of I
mean, I don't like him. I think
John C Dvorak: he's like he's
like a pants warmed over pence.
Adam Curry: warmed over pence.
That's almost a show title.
Thank
John C Dvorak: warmed over pence
little long and. And then of
course, the VEC. Everyone's
there's a bunch of people that
actually think he's a viable
candidate, and it's possible
that Trump would pick him. He's
very talkative.
Adam Curry: He is. He is the guy
who shows up everywhere. He's at
Mar a Lago. He's always hanging
out.
John C Dvorak: He's always he's
a he's a he's a. What do you
call a groupie? Is a Trump group
the extra group and kiss ass?
Adam Curry: How about? Here's
one off the wall. How about how
about the author's name? The
general the? The Q guy. Lynn
Flynn. Yeah. Flynn.
John C Dvorak: He's been he's
been disgraced.
Adam Curry: Mark Robinson.
That's what I'm thinking about.
This. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: This is a
character this guy. Fantastic.
Fantastic. How's everybody
doing? Good.
Unknown: Barry, first thing
we're gonna do as always, we're
gonna give thanks to our Lord
and Savior, Jesus Christ. Are
their reporters in this room
somewhere? I can't see through
the light. The mainstream media
here. If you're here, I want you
to hear this. Hear me. I don't
care what you say about me. I
don't care what you do in your
newsroom. I don't care about
your plans and your Steen's to
bring this nation down with your
Democratic friends. Why? Because
Jesus Christ is still on the
throne. Why you liking that guy?
Adam Curry: That guy? I like
that guy. That's my pick. Well,
John C Dvorak: he's not getting
it. So you might as well give up
on that. The other
possibilities. There's a couple
of the, you know, Kristi, Noem,
we had talked about with the
daughter she killed herself out
the dog killer wisely. She
wisely took herself out. A lot
of people don't realize that
until you tell them. That's the
reason for the dog's story. So
she's done and there's one other
Is there any other women that
could possibly be picked? Tulsi
Tulsi Tulsi is not on the
shortlist while she's on
Adam Curry: my shortlist. Just
because no one pence wasn't on
anybody's list either. I agree.
Nobody knew in blue. No one knew
about pens. No, but there's no
indication he was supposed to be
in the room. Well, they all were
in the room. But I will tell us
he wasn't was to see the room? I
don't think so. No, no
John C Dvorak: till she wasn't
in the room because Tulsi is not
considered being considered.
Adam Curry: Was that was that?
Was Robinson in the room? That's
my guy. Right?
John C Dvorak: No, he's not in
the room.
Adam Curry: On the on the
separation of church and state
for a moment CBS had this
report. Looking at the First
Amendment, I although I think
it's a great idea. I don't think
that the state was that Alabama
or Tennessee who wants to
Louisiana who want to put the 10
commandments in every classroom.
I understand it. But this idea,
I think is something that is
interesting, and could be a very
interesting counter to the end.
I've seen some of these books,
you know, the, the trans and gay
books that they have in the
libraries now that they've been
putting everywhere. This is an
interesting counter to that
Unknown: Oklahoma State School
Superintendent Ryan Walters
directed public schools to use
the Bible as a teaching tool for
students in fifth through 12th
grade when they're being taught
history or Civilization and its
influence on the US
Constitution. Walter said this
state may supply teaching
materials at taxpayer expense,
adding strict compliance is
expected. The State Attorney
General's office told me it
doesn't see the memo as a
mandate and pointed to state law
saying that lessons and textbook
choices are made locally by
districts. Critics say Walters
can't use state money to buy
Bibles and expect his move to be
challenged in court.
Adam Curry: I've been reading
this thing called that someone
gave me this the founders Bible
which has all these historical
documents from the founding of
the country, the original, you
know the pilgrims and and all
these writings from all over at
the signing of the Declaration,
the Constitution, there's
there's some valid points there
as a historical document is
pretty good.
John C Dvorak: Well, I will tell
you this. So when I was a cow,
and I was taking I think it was
a probably a junior. Yeah, maybe
where I might have been a
senior. And I was taking a
seminar from Winthrop Jordan,
very famous writer at National
Book Award for a book just came
out as he was giving this
seminar is called a white over
black, very famous book,
National Book Award winner. And
he made it just made an
offhanded comment. As I was
majoring in history, he says,
You can't understand American
history unless you read the
bible cover to cover. And it was
this book wasn't about the Bible
was about race relations, a pre
pre Civil War race relations,
but it but that comment always
stuck with me as well. You know,
there's probably some truth to
that and people who you know,
poopoo like you, for example,
just promoting it from a
religious perspective. Wrong.
Consider it wrong as wrong. I
should. Okay. Finish. Let me
finish my point.
Adam Curry: Don't throw that at
me.
John C Dvorak: Let me finish my
I'm just telling you seem so. So
because, for example, that clip
you played that character in
North Carolina, there are better
clips than that one.
Adam Curry: That's the only one
I could get right off. There was
an old clip from three weeks
ago.
John C Dvorak: So the point is,
is that demerit the Bible is not
a neutralized meaningless
religious only text. If you're
studying American history, you
could do worse, at least to help
you understand some of the stuff
that goes on to read the Bible.
I don't think it's a big deal to
do that. And I think mentioning
that that Bible that you discuss
might actually be a good thing.
That's
Adam Curry: my point is I didn't
say it for any religious or
faith based
John C Dvorak: on that note, But
your point is well taken. I'm
just saying, it seems to me that
you're catering to your
religious followers.
Adam Curry: No, no, I
specifically said the founders
Bible, which
John C Dvorak: relates, yeah,
no. Probably a good book. So
Adam Curry: I'm talking as an
American about the founding of
America exactly what that smart
guy said. Well, you took the
course from
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's why I
was agreeing with you. I was I'm
in a total agreement with you. I
don't know why you're, why
you're attacking me.
Adam Curry: I'm not attacking.
You said that. I did that just
from my followers from my
religious followers. Yeah, I
don't virtue signal, bro. I'm
telling it like it is. It's a
good version. It has interest.
It has a lot of interesting
texts from the founding
documents and you can see where
they got it from, because they
quote the Bible is historical
document. I think that's a very
valid thing to do. We agree on
that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so I don't
think the Oklahoma thing is a
bad thing. Unless it's taught as
a lesser teaching religion,
which is not the idea. No, it's
to use the Bible as a basis for
understanding Yeah, that's
Unknown: exactly what I agree
with.
Adam Curry: So we have an
election coming up in the UK on
the Fourth of July interesting
date for them to choose that and
already there's lots of cut
well, first of all people are
are so I guess they're a
pathetic about it. They would
have Oh, well. Oh, well,
Labour's gonna
John C Dvorak: get they're gonna
give the government back to the
Labour Party.
Adam Curry: Nigel Farage is out
there with his with his What is
it the Freedom party? What does
he think as
John C Dvorak: a Reform Party or
the new is guy he's created a
new party and he's got lots of
traction that guy. I want to
just make it off to just kind of
a side comment here. Reform
Party is what it is. Yeah, the
Reform Party. So we had spotted
Nigel Farage probably 12 years
ago 13 years ago on this show as
a character that was worth
following because he had these
great speeches at the parliament
Yeah. And we got note after note
from our Brits saying this guy's
of no gonna go nowhere. You guys
are idiots. You shouldn't be
paying any attention to him at
all. Well, let's see. 15 almost
15 years later, this guy still
very important. We happen to be
on top of it. Remember
Adam Curry: when they tried to
kill him in the plane crash?
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
that? Yeah, it
Adam Curry: didn't work. You've
been around. So anyway, channel
four did this this massive hit
piece on him they went
undercover and they discovered
this all kinds of racists in his
part A cleave
Unknown: gone undercover inside
Nigel Farage is reform UK
campaign in Clapton. And we
recorded extremely offensive
language, including this
canvasser saying People seeking
asylum should be shocked.
Showing the racist language was
repeatedly used here directed at
the prime minister Rishi Sunak
and homophobia from Ferraris
inner circle, generate flag on
the front corner of the
building.
My objective is for us to become
the
John C Dvorak: voice of
opposition.
Unknown: He's promised a
political revolution Nigel
Farage claims to speak for the
forgotten many, the self styled
leader of the People's Army
open up the borders to mass
immigration law we've never seen
before. This is the
image reform UK wants to portray
and yet some of the party's
candidates have been accused of
racism and extremism. So
Adam Curry: the
John C Dvorak: guy out yeah, I'm
gonna give you a clip.
Borderline Clip of the Day for
digging now went up. Wow,
Adam Curry: that is so
unexpected that I didn't even
ever released.
John C Dvorak: But the fact that
they'd run a hit piece on me, I
mean, you can go to the Democrat
Party. And I mean, O'Keefe does
this all the time, and you can
go to any group, and it's like
the man on the street
interviews, you can make
everyone sound like idiots. You
can make everyone sound like
geniuses. You can do whatever
you want. This is all
manipulation. Well, sure. I'm
sure there's more than a few
racists who hates Sunak and
there's plenty of racism in the
Democrat party here and the
Republican Party here and, and
in the Black Lives Matter,
people. I mean, you can't get
away from it. But to create a
phony baloney hit piece based on
this, just gambling going on
surprises. bullcrap. Even
Adam Curry: better than that.
Unknown: PAC money is a massive
route a reform UK canvasser uses
racist slurs against the prime
minister and a large chunk of
the population isn't it terrible
facts. He is an actor, even
though he denied it when he was
questioned over it. First thing
this morning fact. He has a
website on which he advertises
things such as under cover
filming. He is, by all accounts
a very well spoken man whose
Alter Ego is speaking Carpani.
Well, when I met him on
Saturday, he was speaking
company when he walked in first
thing in the morning. The whole
thing was an act from the very
beginning. He's also done work
for Channel Four in the past. If
you can't see it, well, I can
certainly see I'm sure you can
too. This is a complete and
utter set up determined to
damage the revolt, which is the
rise in the reform UK vote don't
listen to a word of it join the
revolt. So
Adam Curry: because it was a
canvasser this wasn't someone
actually in his party, but just
some blowhard who was out there
yelling all this it turns out he
was a shill for channel for
John C Dvorak: sure. That makes
sense. Well done going on too
much by the way. And I will just
thing that what He said He said
Pocky
Adam Curry: is Sunako is he
pocket
John C Dvorak: Paki pa K I get
Pakistani? Yeah. Dude you could
see as a slur in the UK. Yeah,
but
Adam Curry: you can talk to
anyone in the UK and after three
minutes the word Paki comes up.
Yeah, I don't want to say I
believe that the Brits are
racist but the kind of racist
John C Dvorak: but they've
always been racist. What else is
new?
Adam Curry: Hello, Great
Britain. Thanks for your
support. They have always kind
of been racist. I guess it's
true.
John C Dvorak: There Did you
have a immigration issue going
on? There is the problematic
problematic. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. Well,
especially because they're in
islands. I mean, let's be honest
about that. Sorry about that.
Goldman's I want to switch to
AI. Just keep an eye on that
because I'm waiting for the for
The Big Short. Someone's gonna
walk away rich not going to be
us. Goldman Sachs comes out and
says return on investment for AI
might be disappointing. Yeah.
Does that now just does a
statement from Goldman like
that? Does that carry any weight
in the investment world do you
think that makes don't forget
John C Dvorak: Goldman's to one
during the 2006 era and before
and the back and forth? Keep
predicting oils going to $200
never does. Now that's true. So
Goldman is kind of a
misdirection operation and a lot
of ways to get people to buy I
don't know what they're trying
to do. But they don't know why
you'd never know what they I
mean, I take their stuff with a
grain of salt. But I think the
accurate was that analysis for
sure. AI
Adam Curry: technologies X
Apparently expensive and to
justify those costs that
technology might be able to
solve complex problems, which it
isn't designed to do. Jim
Covello, the head of Global
Equity Research at Goldman Sachs
said in their report, the
starting point for cost is also
so high that even if cost
declined, they would have to do
so dramatically to make
automating tasks with AI
affordable. In our experience,
even basic summarization tasks
often yield illegible and
nonsensical results.
John C Dvorak: Yes, what he's
referring to, of course, is
creating abstracts from large
documents. Yes. And having
instead of doing it by having a
person do it, which you can do
have a person they read the
thing and they summarize, to
have the AI do it. Good luck.
Adam Curry: Yeah, just pay a
person a trillion dollars. I'm
always looking, though, for for
uses for AI, where it actually
does something and you know,
instead of just funny, funny
pictures and and term papers
and, and flowery words, and you
know, there's
John C Dvorak: good, long
introductions that are
unnecessary, which I think is
the number one giveaway.
Adam Curry: Someone sent me an
email the other day that he
wrote with AI and that he came
up with in the middle, like,
I've always admired you for how
you were on your Honda
motorcycle, touring the country.
And you're and I liked that
you're a ham radio operator had
a completely wrong callsign. It
was just like, why didn't you
write that letter and AI to me?
Here's so here's Bloomberg. And
they're talking about the new
core vive. Is that the new chip?
The next Nvidia Chip,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
they're called. Well, apparently
they called expensive, that's
Adam Curry: expensive.
Apparently, you can do
computational fluid dynamics.
And, and Bloomberg found a
solution. Finally, we can use
these expensive power hungry
chips for Formula One,
Unknown: the new in video chips,
the GB, two hundreds, what will
those do for core wave,
they are going to open up a lot
of both training and inference
use cases in the AI side that I
think our customers have been
blocked by with the existing
generation, and that you're now
able to link 72 of these GPUs
together to work almost as one
unit. And previously, that was
limited to eight, they have a
much larger what's called a
frame buffer, which is how much
memory that's usable for their
matrix operations. So, you know,
I think that we're gonna see a
lot of new use cases show up for
this stuff. But I think it
extends well beyond AI as well.
And it's gonna be a lot more
useful for things like
scientific computing. One of the
things that has me really
excited is the computational
fluid dynamics. And I'm
specifically thinking about the
uses for that in f1, under the
new regulation in 2026, I'm
excited for the new platform. I
think in a year and a half
people are going to be using it
for things that are different
than anybody expects today. And
that's to me that the pace at
which this is changing is the
piece. That's really cool. Wait,
I'm sorry, I hate sports. What's
the point?
Explain how the invidious Yeah,
so their platform, they have
very tight restrictions around
what type of compute and how
much compute you can use to do
aerodynamic testing in your
cars. And you can either do real
life testing in a wind tunnel,
or you can do it through CFD
analysis. And the regulations
around the existing program in
f1 are they're only able to use
CPUs. They have very, like
specific limitations around it.
But there's been a lot of talk
about changing for the 2020 26
car models,
Adam Curry: and I'm gung ho
excited about possibly
supporting that. Ah, gung ho
excited, that's a trillion
dollar investment. Going
John C Dvorak: home excited
going, Whoa, whoa, I didn't
understand what he was talking
about. He's talking about
designing the car using AI
computational
Adam Curry: fluid dynamics baby,
which I think you're referring
to
John C Dvorak: the wind tunnel
test. Yeah. Being done off off
without a wind tunnel. Yeah. So
you could have a design a car
and the AI supposedly, or
essentially name of the AI is
just those GPUs. Yeah, could
design move something left and
right, so put it so that
Adam Curry: but that's not even
your point. It's not even AI. So
this is the best they can come
up with. With core we've, oh, we
can make Formula One cars go
faster. Okay. And then the the
viral clip this week, regarding
AI came from the CEO of
Microsoft's AI Mustafa Soulier
Mondo head.
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you got
this clip.
Adam Curry: This is worth
discussing
Unknown: with respect to content
that is already on the open web.
The social contract of that
content since the 90s. has been
that it is fair use. Anyone can
copy it, recreate with it
reproduce with it. That has been
freeware, if you like that's
been the understanding was a
separate category where a
website or a publisher or a news
organization had explicitly
said, do not scrape or crawl me
for any other reason than
indexing me so that other people
can find that content. That's a
gray area. And I think that's
going to work its way through
the courts.
Adam Curry: John, I think we
both have no in copyright, maybe
you want to weigh in on this
one.
John C Dvorak: Everything is on
the web is copyrighted.
Everything that people produce
copyright and to, and to get to
the point of fair use, which we
push the boundaries on. Because
we take clips, it has to be used
for some other reason other than
its original intent. So if, for
example, we can take a clip from
NBC, but we're not using it to
present it as the news clip that
it was originally we use it to
educate, you know, educate,
deconstruct the clip, educate
the public has a different use,
it's a use that's different. And
it's not a lot. It's a very
small percentage of the
original. And it's all legal to
take the entire web, which is he
implies the entire thing is all
public domain and all fair uses
bullcrap. So where does he get
this idea? This just at you
know, this is going to be used
against him in a court
Adam Curry: of law, this this
statement, in fact, and just so
I'm saying
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna get
he's gonna get burned by what he
did that that clip.
Adam Curry: Every single mp3 We
release has in its ID three
tags, a copyright, no agenda,
LLC. I have sued corporations
under the fact I set
jurisprudence, suing a
publisher, a large publisher in
the Netherlands, for taking my
pictures off of Flickr.
John C Dvorak: We can't do that,
which I'd published
Adam Curry: under Creative
Commons, which was distribute
share, like no commercial, and
they lost and I won. And I'm
still hoping for the day they do
it again, because then I get to
charge them 5000 euros for every
copy for every day. It's in
circulation. But that'd be great
fact. Yeah, that's, that's an
exit strategy right there. Yes,
that does not happen. But I just
thought it was what a horrible
take from that guy.
John C Dvorak: Well, he
obviously doesn't know what he's
talking about knee. And
Microsoft has a team, a team, a
huge team of legal experts that
he should have at least
consulted. Yeah. Before he made
that comment that everything on
the web is free, wary of fair
use.
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?
He said it's freeware under the
social contract, freeware.
John C Dvorak: And I shouldn't
mention you said you'd put we
put the copyright notice on and
people still do that. But that
is actually not needed. You
don't even have to do it as a as
an as of a number of years ago,
and I don't remember when but it
was probably 20 years ago. It
turns out that anything you
publish, whether you put the
copyright notice on it or not,
is copyrighted by just by by
law. It's copyrighted. And this
kind of stems from the early
days of copyright when you
actually had to produce a copy
and to get to apply for a
copyright had to apply for a
copyright, then you had to send
a copy to the Library of
Congress. Yep. Like in the 1800s
or 1900s, some very long ago.
And that became such a pain in
the ass because people were
copywriting everything. They
said, screw that we don't want
to get all these copies. And so
then copyright laws changed and
changed. And now it's like,
everything's copyrighted. Get
over it wasn't there? unless you
say otherwise.
Adam Curry: At some point, I
remember someone saying, if you
have an idea, or you write
something, you should print it
out, put an envelope and put it
in the mail to yourself. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I remember that
it. Was that true. I've done
that. I don't know if it's true
or not. I always liked that. Oh,
that sounds good. It's just to
prove that you're right. You're
late for when you develop an
idea or a patent. Yeah, suppose
you want us to get the date
earlier. And so you mail it to
yourself, and then you can take
it to a court of law. Now,
somebody steals your idea
Adam Curry: now what we do like
and, and always, we've always
said this is a good idea. We'd
like you to freely distribute
the no agenda show in any
manner. You can.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, put it on
your own website. Yeah. We've
always said that's okay. As long
as it in its entirety. Yes. Some
people use the donation
segments.
Adam Curry: Yeah, some people
have. For a while there we were
on some radio station and they
and someone went through the
trouble of bleeping out all the
cuss words, which at the time, I
was quite prone to do. Didn't
last long. They got tired of it.
This show is just one big beep
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, we
probably cause too much. Not
that much anymore. Well, for a
radio, dog for radio, yeah, we
Adam Curry: all all kinds of
stuff. We can't say Little Bird
Flu updates besides Finland
being the first country to offer
a vaccination for human beings,
the kicking that off we we have
an update. Let's see where did
this come from? I think this
might be ABC,
Unknown: the state of Michigan
making inroads in the fight to
contain the h five and one
strain of bird flu after once
leading the nation and detected
outbreaks. The state's
Department of Health now working
with farms to assess the risk
and infection and dairy farm
workers for certified emergency
room. Dr. Michael Daniel has
been out front on the bird flu
and he joins us now with more
always good to have you. Thank
you. Good evening. Let's talk
more about how these tests in
Michigan, how they're working on
both dairy workers and milk
products.
So what's great is that you
know, Michigan had the highest
number of outbreaks, and they
offered farms $20,000 to
participate in CDC research,
which is which is great, it's
given the farm a lot of money to
do testing, take care of what
they need. And what they're
going to do is blood tests of
the farm workers to see if they
have the antibody to the h5 and
one bird flu virus, because they
want to see if there's some sort
of asymptomatic spread that's
passing from farm worker to farm
worker, because like I mentioned
last week, a lot of these herds
are closed herds. There's not a
lot of movement of cattle
between the herds. So this
suspicion that we need to rule
out to make sure that it's not
being spread asymptomatically
Because the farm workers are
moving from herds hurt, they go
from ranch to Ranch, for
example. So that's data that the
CDC is just starting, and it's
good to see this. Good to see
them on top of this. We need to
be doing more of this. I'm glad
we can report on this that
things are happening finally.
Adam Curry: Yeah, things are
happening. Finally. Oh, yeah.
Can we get to a pandemic? Come
on, boys do some work here.
member Robert Redfield said
former CDC Director Oh, no. Next
bird flu is going to come from
the lab from gain of function.
Whoa,
John C Dvorak: that's what we
call it says to which is already
working on that's where the
mallards got it. So
Adam Curry: the CDC is now
recommending everyone aged six
months and older. Hurry now
don't wait while stocks last get
an updated 2024 2025 COVID-19
vaccine. And I'm just thinking,
you know, if you really if you
really wanted to do something
with bird flu, the one thing we
know about the vaccine the one
thing we know for sure. I think
you will agree with me. Everyone
who got the vaccine definitely
got COVID
John C Dvorak: seem so.
Adam Curry: So what if you put
just put a little bird flu
proteins in there? Well,
John C Dvorak: there's precedent
for this. Haha. And we had it on
the show, there's probably a
clip but if you could find it
probably can't find it. Maybe it
can. This one of the vaccine
manufacturers during the swine
flu epidemic pandemic of some
years ago, had was distributing
a swine flu vaccine with live
swine flu viruses in the
vaccine. They were they were
caught and shut down. But this
was going on. And it created
swine flu outbreaks here and
there out of the blue.
Adam Curry: Let me see if this
is the
Unknown: one. It is one of the
greatest medical scandals of the
century. According to a leading
health expert in Brussels. The
Council of Europe Health's chief
has accused major pharmaceutical
firms of organizing a campaign
of panic and unduly influencing
World Health Organization
decisions. And with European
countries now burdened with
bills for millions of unwanted
doses of the swine flu vaccine.
He wants an investigation
Adam Curry: sounds
correspondence or maybe not. I
don't know if that's the was
John C Dvorak: probably not
answered. There's a similar
scenario but yes, there was one
company I can't remember the
name of them. Somebody could
look it up you can find it that
was distributing swine flu via
the vaccine. Uh, yes. The way to
get the bird flu thing going is
to put bird flu in the bird flu
Hmm I don't know if it's even
illegal to suggest that they
might do this cuz it seems like
you're creating we're just not
just
Adam Curry: kooky we're just
podcasters pay no it yeah
John C Dvorak: actually have a
second half a show it's crazy
clip. But it wouldn't I wouldn't
put it past them.
Adam Curry: Well, that would
take care of the mail in
ballots, wouldn't it? For the
Republicans this time.
John C Dvorak: You know, some
little update, you know, the
second half a show clip we can
play while entering second half.
All right, second half. About
the monolith. Here's the PBS
report.
Adam Curry: Oh goodness, the
Monolith is back new location
and a new chapter in an unsolved
mystery. Las Vegas police said
they removed a tall monolith
from a remote part of Nevada
desert. They said the six foot
four structure was a public
safety and environmental hazard
to how it got there is anybody's
guess it's the lake It is in a
series of mysterious monolith
placements around the world
since 2020, including in the
Democratic Republic of Congo and
in Turkey. The Nevada monolith
made of sheet metal rebar, and
concrete is being held at an
undisclosed location. Police are
trying to figure out how to best
store it or dispose of it. The
hoax here is the term monolith.
What exactly is a monolith
supposed to be this is just the
things from
John C Dvorak: the from the
movie. Oh, well, you know the
Space Odyssey now. Okay, yes,
yes. Where it's from it but this
monolith was it a safety is out
in the middle of nowhere have to
remember. Nobody even knows how
long it's been there. It's been
set up and left there. And there
it is. And somebody discovered
now some sort of a safety
hazard. safety hazard for what
little flying planes is only six
foot for this monolith.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
really don't know. A prediction
of yours coming true in an odd
sort of way.
Unknown: Developing right now. A
double murder suspects spending
their first night in jail after
this tense scene played out in
the St. George neighborhood.
Multiple homeowners capturing
this moment the suspect was
taken into custody. After an
hour's long manhunt. In the last
90 minutes we have obtained the
jail documents identifying the
two people killed.
They are as neighbors told us
earlier the suspects own
parents. St. George police
arrested the suspect about eight
miles from the Washington home
where the shooting happened. You
special Salix Cabrera live in a
neighborhood where the manhunt
ended and Alex you have been
looking over those new documents
here. What are you learning
tonight?
According to those court
documents might continue the
victims in this case are Gail
and Joseph Bailey who are the
parents of the suspect me a
Bailey and that they were shot
several times. Also, according
to that court paperwork, Bailey
told police there was no remorse
in that, quote, I would do it
again. I hate them. Neighbors
say that people killed were
Bailey's parents, and that there
were issues between the parents
and Bailey about Bailey's
transition from a man to a woman
with
there was already volatility and
bad vibes going with within the
family.
Police are still investigating
the exact motive. Either way
this neighborhood is now back to
normal. I'm
Adam Curry: telling you, this is
how it starts.
John C Dvorak: Well, the people
that got him to transition don't
care which way it went. But
they're the ones who are should
be liable. Yeah, fat chance.
There's two dead dogs.
Adam Curry: It's going to
happen. Probably not in this
case. But it will I agree with
you though. Not
John C Dvorak: in that case, but
it's going to happen eventually
you're going to have two things
happen. One, the parents are
going to get charged. I still
believe the parent
Adam Curry: or the parents are
dead. They can't get charged.
They're dead. No,
John C Dvorak: I'm saying I'm
talking about crime to
transition these kids that were
the parents aren't dead. The
same. I mean, whether the
parents are dead if they're not
dead, they're gonna get charged.
So maybe being dead is not a bad
option. Is it this is not going
to work out. This is going to be
a disaster. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it doesn't seem like
a lot of these kids are happy.
John C Dvorak: None of them are.
Adam Curry: final clip for me.
Before we go into our last
break, we got to cool meet up
reports coming and have a
knighting and some birthdays.
And finally, Joe Biden's climate
envoy his it's an envoy now it
used to bizarre, but now it's an
envoy John Podesta who doesn't
know him from the WikiLeaks. And
he's unclogging
Unknown: the realities of the
climate crisis have never been
clearer. And our ability to
address those realities has
never been greater. 2023, of
course, was the hottest year on
record. Of course, July of 2023
was the hottest month on record
ever and every month since has
been the hottest, ever recorded
on the planet, say 2024 is on
track to be even hotter than
last year. And it's already
having profound consequences
around the world. And especially
for the most vulnerable
communities. We know something
is terribly wrong with our
planet. The string of calamities
is no fluke. It is the climate
crisis. And it's costing us big,
we still have a lot of work to
do to ensure a safe future for
humanity. And we have to move
fast and at scale. I like to
quote the IPCC in their 2018
report on 1.5 degrees C. We need
a transformation of the global
economy on a size and scale
that's never occurred in human
history. That's a tall order,
but one we can accomplish.
Adam Curry: We can do it. We can
do it. discuss
John C Dvorak: a couple of
things I have to ask you. Why
would you change from tsar to
envoy? So why would you do that
a sounds like why would this
joker take this job? This is
like beneath him.
Adam Curry: He's a money guy. He
goes where the money is.
John C Dvorak: But for him,
there's no money for him. Oh,
come
Adam Curry: on, come on. He's,
I'm sure he's got all kinds of
deals going on in the
background, and you get to hang
out, you get to take the jet,
you get to have fancy dinners.
You get to be big man on campus.
This guy's an egomaniac?
John C Dvorak: Well, I believe
he's an egomaniac, but when he
was running campaigns, and
really having an effect, as
opposed to being a public BS
artist, which he is now, with
that nonsense that he just
spewed. It's got to be I think
it's a letdown. I don't know how
you can live with himself.
Adam Curry: Well, I think you
and I should be on voice. Yeah,
then you could be the right
honorable Jhansi. Dvorak. Could
happen. Anything for you?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got a
couple of one. Let me just do I
have a I always have these tick
tock things backed up. But
actually, I'm gonna skip that
and I want to play this. The EU
is going after Microsoft that
gouged them. And I think that's
a good thing. Because, you know,
these companies, American
companies were were not being
run properly. And so they were
leaving ourselves open to being
ripped off by the EU because
they don't like the fact that
we're so dominant over there. So
let's go EU versus Microsoft to
keep keep up. The EU
Unknown: is now targeting
Microsoft over antitrust
concerns. It says Microsoft
illegally includes Microsoft
teams with Microsoft Office
teams is a video communication
platform that people use to
collaborate. The European
Commission says including teams
with other popular programs like
Word and Excel gives it an
unfair advantage. Microsoft
faces a potential fines of up to
10% of its global revenue. Wow,
a money grab a power hungry
money grab that said when
regulators see money and they
want to shake it loose. They
cannot wait to
financial analyst Vijay Merola
says the move will harm the EU
in the long run because it
drives away businesses
businesses could leave because
all of the regulations and the
risk of potential lawsuits
10% of a revenue stream revenue
stream is not the bottom line
shows the revenues where you pay
all the bills with well what is
to stop them from just not doing
business in the EU.
The investigations began when
competitors slack and alpha view
complaint about the software
bundling both companies say they
welcome the Commission's move.
Microsoft President Brad Smith
says the company will quote work
to find solutions to address the
Commission's remaining concerns.
That's weird.
John C Dvorak: I get a kick out
at like Slack bitching about it?
Aren't they part of Salesforce
or you know, there's the same
thing. It's bundled with the
product.
Adam Curry: They already made
their money. Everybody got it?
Everyone made dynamite money on
that acquisition. That's weird.
Well, it's that Margarita woman
in the EU, that's her whole job
is to is to soak mud gouge
American
John C Dvorak: companies.
Unknown: I'm going to show my
mood by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Adam Curry: And John's going to
thank the people who came in
$50. And above. If there's
something we need to read, we'll
gladly read it. But typically we
don't it'll be name and
location. But we thank everybody
for going to no agenda
donation.com and supporting the
show supporting the work, which
we do twice a week on Sundays
and Thursdays.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we started
with a, you know, this first
line when at 546. When I was
opening the spreadsheet, I
blanked out the guy's name. I
Adam Curry: don't have it
either.
John C Dvorak: Maybe it's not on
here.
Adam Curry: I don't have anyone
there. So oops, oops, oops. Man.
It's just the blank man, Mr.
Blank, man. And now you've done
you've done something very bad.
So I'll thank James I
John C Dvorak: did what I did, I
can fix it real quick. What I
did was I hit a key to look see
if I can recover that name. And
in the process, I made the
spreadsheet miniscule. Which is
not what I want to read it. It's
too small. What Okay, well,
there's somebody that came into
185 46 and we don't know who it
is. So you can send us a note.
We'll give you a credit later.
James. What is this? James Gaetz
eating in Addison, Texas. He
came in with 168 50 He says
Warren one of the few podcasts
was worth listening to these
days. Thank you, Amanda. Glen
and Gilroy 100. Joe. Dark darks
I guess is Amsterdam Holland
9626 He's hasn't called Letters
w w zero b. Oh
Adam Curry: no, I think this is
the name of the meetup in
Amsterdam on July 6, the robo
meetup.
John C Dvorak: Oh,
Adam Curry: no idea what Robo
John C Dvorak: he said 70 threes
who Bo? Oh, I don't see 70
threes. Because it was on the
note it wasn't Oh,
Adam Curry: well that's not a
Dutch callsign the Papa Papa
hotel Papa.
John C Dvorak: The Michael
golian. In Rockford Illinois. It
at 836 that a happy birthday
call on Sally a don't a Domo in
Palm City, Florida 808 Nisa de
douching
Unknown: de deuced.
John C Dvorak: Also Brogan
donation, Kevin McLaughlin in
Concord, North Carolina. 808. Of
course, he's the Archduke Aluna
lover of American boobs. Eric
Adler 808 moves for him.
Franklin. Month mantero A
Monteros monster Rosa in Dodge
City is in Dodge City, Kansas.
808. He wants housekeeper karma
we'll give you that whatever
that means at the end. Maybe
Schwarzenegger knows about well,
you
Adam Curry: know it's the
housekeeper you should be
working in the house. That's
what that's what the kicker said
the kicker said the housekeeper
I get it. His wife your wife is
a good wife. She's the
housekeeper
John C Dvorak: they Carol in
Lawton, Nevada 7227 Anonymous
7192 at the birthday call out.
Matthew Martel is in the cognac
and brew mall Pennsylvania
$70.26. He says due to the
overwhelming success of the bond
Gino coupon code campaign that's
where he got his savings. Send
us the money you know one of
these days Bungie is going to
find out about this. This is
what
Adam Curry: listen this whole
thing he says help me help you
visit Martel hardware.com use
code six handicap for an
additional 10% off Hey, bad idea
supply follow me back on
Instagram. What is going on
here? I don't know. Code Vaughn
Gino
John C Dvorak: Greg Kohler in
Evansville, Indiana. 6502.
That's a chip. James Buell in
Vista, California 606 small
boobs, Dame Stephanie and
Chandler Arizona. 606 as a
birthday call out for her my
lovely husband, Sir Don.
Adam Curry: Oh, she says Love
you baby. Sorry, I missed the
shout out on 627. Good Woman.
John C Dvorak: Ryan Danielle in
Omaha, Nebraska. 5555. Brock
Bradshaw. 5307 needs a de
douching
Adam Curry: van de Deus. That's
Brock. Brock used to be your UPS
driver.
John C Dvorak: I wonder if
that's why I think it is. Yeah,
well, he's
Adam Curry: no longer UPS driver
that I have not seen Bronco,
John C Dvorak: I always
wondered. Now if I recall, this
guy. He used to be our ups are
forever. And Rimini always
spotted him because he would
show up. He's one of these
ridiculous the least he got
older, but I would say in the
90s he was a ridiculously good
looking guy. And he and he would
go and be delivery seven and all
of a sudden the truck could be
parked somewhere. It's like a
policeman halfwits called beep
wife. Yeah, it's not a wife they
beat it's a girl that while
they're on duty, they will stop
being in the cop car
Adam Curry: in front of the
house baby. Here they want to
see my gun. So every
John C Dvorak: once in a while
the delivery was always like
clockwork came at three would
come at 7pm Yeah. And the guy
always looked like he was beaten
you look I was worn out crew.
Adam Curry: Long time. Long day.
Long day in the office, dear.
He's probably doing he's
probably doing big parts in the
Hollywood. No.
John C Dvorak: He probably
could. I'm glad he listens. He
keeps saying no agenda some of
the times this UPS
Adam Curry: Special Delivery
Man.
John C Dvorak: Zachary Metzinger
Oh, this is the guy this is n
o's and zero ZG oh and South
Lake Texas. That's the GAO came
up with 70 threes. Yeah, there
you go. Okay. And $50.33 Scott
now, Nelson in Council Bluffs,
Iowa. 5001. That's a check. Now
we got the $50 donors. We don't
have a lot of donors today but
you know hopefully on July the
Fourth Coming up either July 4
weekend, the weekend special
have two great shows and people
all chip in to be patriotic ZEV
green in Teaneck, New Jersey 50
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Mexico and in Mexico City Hello
Mexico City Leif Thompson in
Meridian Idaho. David Steele in
Mobile Alabama, Justin Caylor in
Bluffton, Indiana Anna balls in
Whitestone Indiana Brian sharp
in Huntsville Alabama second
Adam Curry: gotta read this
because oh yeah, this
John C Dvorak: is she gets
updated or she gets this a
switcheroo actually
Adam Curry: with with a
knighting for her husband ITM
Jenson noticed a while back my
layaway donation had earned
night status. A gift I've been
donating towards for my smokin
hot husband Kevin balls with one
L but since then I've been
struggling to get him to tell me
what he wants to be known as at
the roundtable. He finally caved
and wishes to be knighted, sir
andeavor He just wants the usual
no frills but he sure appreciate
you what how do you pronounce
that? A young Ling is a young
black and tan. A human being
black and tan. Is that
John C Dvorak: a young Ling?
Yes, it's a Chinese beer. I
Adam Curry: think a young Ling
Yun Ling black and tan to
accompany the mutton and mean
time to work towards my own Dame
status. How about that? That's a
good housekeeper given away the
knighthood to her man first.
Thanks for all you do and four
more years. Yes, good
housekeeper good housekeeper.
John C Dvorak: Housekeeper.
Brian sharp in Huntsville,
Alabama. I said Brandon Locklear
and excuse me,
Adam Curry: oh man.
Unknown: For years
John C Dvorak: Brandon Locklear
and Sugar Hill, Georgia and Sir
Pierre's last on the list. He's
in Farmington, Connecticut $50.
And he came in with a stripe
contribution. And I want to say
mentioned somebody we had this
whole group, we have two people
that donate via stripe, after
listening to all the
complaining. So we put stripe on
there and nobody uses it just to
discuss at that point.
Adam Curry: People use it, too.
We had to two all right as to
thank you to all these donors
who came in $50 and above.
Again, thank you to the
executive and Associate
Executive Producer for episode
1673. You are all producers. We
thank those producers under 50
who are there for reasons of
anonymity and the sustaining
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please, whatever the show is
worth to you support us with
that amount. Do it on a regular
basis, do it monthly do whatever
it is. As long as you're
contributing back you will sleep
peacefully knowing that you are
also producing the no agenda
show the best podcast in the
universe. Karma as requested
also a special health karma for
Darren O'Neill's father in law,
Steve zego, who had a heart
attack and is having bypass
surgery this week. So we
certainly want him to feel much
better and do well and I'm
praying for him and thank you to
all who supported the no agenda
show. He's got karma, no agenda
donations.com.
And there we have anonymous who
wishes her smokin hot husband a
happy birthday he turns 32 on
July 1. On behalf of her and the
human resources. Ralph hamburger
wishes his fiancee Christina a
very happy birthday she's
turning 33 Dame Stephanie says
Stephanie says Happy Birthday to
a loving husband Sir Don of
Chandler and Matthew golian is
celebrating we say happy
birthday from everybody here at
the best podcast in the
universe. And we do have that
one knighting for for Kevin
ball. So let's bring out the
blade his housekeeper donated
this this knighthood so Hey,
how's yours? Oh hello, Kevin.
You better be hugging my wife
yours man. She's a good one.
She's a keeper. Thanks to her
supportive $1,000 is a layaway
night giving it to you I am very
proud to pronounce the KB as sir
and never night of the no agenda
round table for you by request.
We have Yun Ling black and tan
along with mutton and meat of
course but along with that, in
case you're wondering what we
have well we have some gauges in
stock a vodka and vanilla we
also have bong hits and bourbon
sparkling cider an escort ginger
ale and Jeroboam got breast milk
and pablum Rubenesque moving and
rose a cow girls and coffee
barns very tasty. But I see you
can already Yeah, you got the
mutton in the meat. That's why
you wanted the youngling black
and tan and go to no agenda
rings.com Go to it with your
wife so she can select the right
size makes makes you What are
you doing? Man,
John C Dvorak: this thing it
just, I have a bunch of
noisemakers I have not been
using. Yes.
Adam Curry: I've gotten
complaints when he was happy and
more noisemakers from John no
agenda rings.com And there's a
ring sizing guide there we will
send it along with our
certificate of authenticity and
because of signet ring you'll
get some wax that you can melt
and then seal your important
correspondence with it thank you
very much to you sir and to your
wife for becoming a night of the
no agenda routing know what?
The no agenda meetups, I think
there'll be a number of them
this coming weekend. People like
to meet each other whenever they
can. And whenever there's an
excuse, but people just meet all
the time at these meetups you
can go to no agenda meetups.com
You can find your tribe which is
the no agenda tribe you'd be
amazed how quickly you make
friends especially if you feel
like I'm shy I'm not too social.
Go to a meetup you'll find
people that you can connect with
and as always connection is
protection. We have Leo Bravo in
Los Angeles think he does a
meetup. It seems like every week
but it's probably every month
where every two weeks here's the
meetup they did it the Boomtown
brewery in LA Hey
Unknown: everybody, it's Leo
Bravo at meet up number 53.
Passing the phone around my
friends that seems to say Hey,
Adam and John we're here at
Boomtown brewing in downtown LA
beautiful downtown LA don't
leave your stuff in your car
though.
It is B dizzle. And I'm gonna go
look forward to some mushrooms
later on. I've got hairy legs or
Leah Kim for us pretty good
morning guys. Guys in the
morning in the morning. Oh 123.
Adam Curry: Hairy legs was
wasn't bad sounded very Jewish.
One of the biggest meetups over
100 people every single time
they do one mark and Maria de
mon nights they organize it in
Indy.
Unknown: There's a certain mark
and this is a Maria so happy to
be on the north side of
Indianapolis with a marvelous
gang of no agenda acolytes. We
are ready for vacation. This is
syrup of the maple wear
sunscreen
hi this is Niels above and I'd
like to call out each bag Scott
has a nice bag
this is Kyle from Zionsville
thank you for an excellent
product this is Nick I arrive at
the meet up there's only $4 in
my pocket I look at my car four
quarters I have $5 I can buy one
raffle ticket I get my money to
mark it guess what happens next?
I lost hi this is Dame Cindy of
the Tito's thank you for your
courage Nick just you know it's
rigged.
This is sort of with a maple
whatever you do, don't wear
sunscreen. Tom not from Carmel
Let My People Go fisting my nuts
still.
This is Kira from Carmel and I'm
all tatted up for Trump Serbia
walking his damn barn today and
this guy goes Hey, all lawyers
are douchebags I said I think I
don't like that statement. Why
are you a lawyer? No, I'm
a douchebag and
Morning John Adams sir PVR St.
King and there's no evidence
that there was a rigging of the
election. Dame Trinity from Fort
Wayne visiting Indianapolis
third meet up in three days you
guys got to go to a meet up
Dame Swanee what are they going
to shoot up Biden's das this
time?
This is Dietrich from
Indianapolis with President
Donald J. Trump. We who make no
agenda again trust me I pray
again it's gonna be huge. It's
gonna be great in the morning.
Hey, it's Gary from Greenwood
notice that we had four new
people I think there's some
speaks in here though.
I'm Carl and Arielle and we just
moved from Virginia so we might
be the spooks
out are from Indianapolis. Once
again more water with this Greg
group. Sadly no more sportsball
though in the morning Hey,
this is Diane from Greenwood.
How in the world do you follow
up this? Hi my name is Katie and
we're at blind Albery and the no
agenda people came to visit and
they were absolutely lovely,
wonderful, wonderful people
Adam Curry: that crazy Monday
let's check in with Columbus
Ohio
Unknown: in the Morning John and
abs are PVR street gang from the
Central Ohio meetup. The tip of
the day go to meet up you'll
learn something
steam Trinity having a great
time in Columbus, Ohio in the
morning. In the morning. This is
Eric Shafi where I am on the
lookout for elder abuse. In
the morning you turkeys keep on
truckin and I hope you find your
exit ramp.
This is Miss flowers, the Best
Bartender Dempsey is having a
great time with these people tip
your bartenders folks.
Thank you gentlemen. This is Sir
Larry. I'm so glad to be back
here at Dempsey's in Columbus by
the way. We'll be here in four
weeks.
Adam Curry: I love it when they
bring in the the bartenders
that's always good final meetup
report from Kansas City. Hello
Unknown: Spencer well for Kansas
City here with the latest KC
meetup report. We're out here
with some old friends and new
friends and joining us Andruw
Jones books in the some some
summertime. This is doctors are
otter of the flatwater in the
morning, hey is Lee Kumar away
from the one?
This is Searcy Mike at the YM
doet antidote to larger Megalis
and hey JCD it's 91 of the CHE
but I'm still on my first shirt.
We employed our slave I mean,
human resource to grill the
burgers and dogs. KC wolf
brought some amazing ribs. We're
enjoying a good time. boggle.
Lorien here enjoying bowl after
bowl of home cooked goodness.
In the morning, Columbia
represent and then new friends
at the playground. Like having
this Marcellin rally nice. You
like going to meetups sometimes?
Yes. Sometimes no.
Some fun out here today.
If he wasn't here, you missed
out. See y'all next time.
Adam Curry: Nothing like some
child abuse at the meetups.
Very, very good. Thank you all
for your reports. We have no
meetups on the Alexa we have one
today. Long views lively laugh
loaded midsummer meet up the
hangover special. That is
starting in 10 minutes in
Longview, Texas at Rotolo
pizzeria. On Thursday. We have
the longest standing member
London meet up at six o'clock.
The real ale weigh in London
that'll be London Kent it says
Bromley SE and I think Guelph
did a AMITA promo for us
Unknown: humble human resources
of gizmo East a post votes
polling party meet up on the
Fourth of July is occurring at
the real la micro pub
in Hays Kent. From 6pm to
whenever you're kicked out,
you'll find me who have and the
London and the Southeast, no
agenda and creme de la creme
celebrating for the best podcast
in a Yoda.
Adam Curry: Well Who can argue
with that you got to go to that
meetup. There's many more on the
calendar for the fifth it's
Fremantle Western Australia. I'd
love to have a meet up from you
guys on the sixth San Diego
California also on the sixth
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. And
man there's just too many
dimension there's a lot coming
up in the month of July of
course it is the summer month go
to no agenda meetups.com Find a
meetup near you. It is where you
will find your clan your family
and as always, connection brings
protection no agenda meet
ups.com
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.
You'd be triggered. You'd have
to say that is like
Adam Curry: Alright, let's do
some ISOs I'm over I sewed so
let's do yours first.
John C Dvorak: So he I have to I
have to so you have a lot you
can win. But I have to one is
his get to my two first. I got
nothing. Nothing changes if
nothing changes.
Adam Curry: Okay, not bad,
actually. Not bad.
John C Dvorak: And then I get
another Wow. Wow.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the wilds they
just aren't winning lately.
John C Dvorak: In other words,
if it isn't that good. Wow. All
right.
Adam Curry: I'll just run
through a couple see if you like
them.
Unknown: period, period period.
Adam Curry: I didn't think you'd
like that. Here's this. I do
like you do like that one. But
this absolutely
Unknown: bananas. No.
The informative and hilarious.
No agenda podcast. Megan Kelly.
Adam Curry: When did she say
that? When I was on the show?
Someone clipped
John C Dvorak: it for this along
this an old clip.
Unknown: I hate sports.
Adam Curry: Come on, man. Come
on. We have this one. Oh
Unknown: my god. Oh my god. Oh
my god.
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's the
winner.
Adam Curry: Well, one more one
more. This is a couple of kids.
See
Unknown: that picture? What's
that in your mouth?
John C Dvorak: It's cute. It's
cute. is sick. You like this?
Unknown: Oh my god. Oh my god.
Oh my god. Like that one. Yeah,
I
John C Dvorak: liked that way.
Adam Curry: We'll do that one
then.
Unknown: Good news. It's good
advice. John sees too big the
day
Adam Curry: for them for the
day, which people seem to be
running away from. I got a lot
of emails about the CamScanner.
Have you got them? People? No,
no, it's spyware.
John C Dvorak: Current version
of CamScanner doesn't have
malware on it.
Adam Curry: Okay, okay. All
right. Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm glad just a
reasonably short period of time
where somebody slipped in we
only
Adam Curry: cared about j we
just didn't want to have j does
she have an iPhone? She must
have an iPhone. As the Android,
she has an Android phone, oh,
man, you should scan that thing.
John C Dvorak: Of course, why
would there is a make
Adam Curry: your if you have an
Android, you got enough spyware
on there from Google,
John C Dvorak: everything
spyware in an Android. So that's
right, I'm gonna bring up a
product another product people
should have. And this is an old
product that I've been promoting
for at least 30 years. But I
want to promote it to get it out
of the way. So if somebody wants
to say anything, this is a a
Image Viewer and minor editor,
you can do some editing with it,
but nothing major. And it's
called IrfanView, I RFANVI Ew,
you can you can just remember
Adam Curry: friend use this for
Windows only.
John C Dvorak: I believe it's
only windows, okay. I could be
wrong, I don't really care. But
IrfanView is a terrific product,
and it's got it's got and you
should get the plugins for it.
Because it will open legacy
legacy photos Legacy Digital
stuff, including, I think it's k
d f files, which a lot of
systems just will not open, they
refuse to deal with them. And
KDF is the original in the early
days of digital photography,
Kodak was actually one of the
top companies they were
developing sensors and they they
put a couple of these sensors in
a big Nikon and then they start
bringing out their own cameras.
And they had their own digital
format for the photos called KDF
Kodak digital format and that's
kind of if you could look it up
you won't even find that
anymore. Generally it's a change
and I don't know if they change
the name or they don't know what
it means. But opening those old
photos you need something like
IrfanView and then you can save
the file as a JPEG if you want
to keep those old those old
structures but this is a
terrific product I've been using
it forever and I say highly
recommended
Adam Curry: there's there's some
file some picture format that
sometimes they get from people
on an iPhone when they email it
to me it has a weird extension I
can't remember like it's not def
or something really odd and
John C Dvorak: that is a bunch
of new file formats that
Adam Curry: are odd H E IC
that's it he i c h e I will
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you the
IrfanView probably has a plugin
for it I'm sure they did you
know that this the only system I
found that opens everything.
Adam Curry: Wonder what that
stands for HBIC
John C Dvorak: we can look it up
well you can consult the book
and
Adam Curry: knowledge oh why
bother? Irfan view is the tip of
the day everybody says
Unknown: Ben, you're to the day.
Thanks for listening.
Y'all come back now you hear?
Adam Curry: And it's free. It's
free. It's free. It's freeware.
Just like Microsoft wants you to
have it freeware. It's on the
web. It's the social contract,
man. Everybody should have one
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and Professor J. Jones from
China. And I'm coming to you
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Country right here in
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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we've
already forgotten about the
debate. I'm John C.
Adam Curry: Dvorak. Thank God
for that. Alright, everybody,
we'll be back on Thursday. Who
knows what will happen by then
I'm looking forward to it. I'm
looking forward to seeing you
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Until then Adios, mofos Hui Hui,
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Unknown: elder care, making sure
that we continue to strengthen
our healthcare system, making
sure that we're able to make
every single solitary person
with COVID is gonna be with
everything we have to do with
if we finally beat Medicare
every single day, every single
day. That is simply not true.
The White House is calling for
cheap face, which
was when I was vice president.
Oh six Pass, by the way, I
taught me to kick off
the idea. The idea. I'm
Adam Curry: all in on the master
masters in real and they work
and they're very committed. And
they're undetectable. I know
from my own family's experience.
Unknown: Truth is it is
absolutely killing us. No
one wants to screw around with
us. Nobody
wants that to happen Democrat or
Republican. Nobody wants it to
happen. He's this
guy told Ukraine told Trump do
whatever you want to do or do
whatever you want. And that's
exactly what Trump did. He
didn't fight did you fire
anybody?
Did you fire anybody that's on
the border. Truth is this man is
a criminal. This man you're
lucky
more fentanyl machines, or more
be able to detect drugs, or more
of a numbers of every
time that Solinsky comes to this
country. He walks away with $60
billion. He's the greatest
salesman ever. Truth is a lot of
people are dead right now. He
went to the funeral idea that
she was murdered by a by an
immigrant we
mentioned the laptop we've
mentioned Russia, Russia,
Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine,
Ukraine, every single thing he
said is a lie. Everything he
does is a lie. Truth is you
could feel it, you could feel it
too. And you could feel it. My
son
was not a loser was not a
sucker. You're the sucker.
You're the loser. You have
to be ashamed of yourself, what
you have done, how you've
destroyed the lives of so many
people finds
tremendous amount feeds into the
way the pandemic caused
the inflation and it's killing
black families and Hispanic
families and just about
everybody. Truth is we're like a
bunch of stupid people. The
only person on the stage is a
convicted felon. This man I'm
looking at right now he did
the mandate, which is a disaster
mandating it. The vaccine went
out he did a mandate or the
vaccine, which is the thing that
people most objected to the
COVID Excuse me with dealing
with everything we have to do.
I really don't know what he said
at the end of this sentence. I
don't think he knows what he
said he The truth is you have to
get elected also,
all of the formatting tweets
that CNN made, actually told
Trump tremendously. I am.
are so many young women,
including the young woman who
was murdered, went to the
funeral. She was murdered by a
by an American to talk about
that. But here's the deal.
There's a lot of women to be
raised by their mother in law's
by their, by their spouses, or
sisters by SSS ridiculous, and
they can do nothing about it.
And they try to rest across the
line.
Your actions and put the lives
of our partners, our allies and
our diplomats at risk,
especially those who work in
Afghanistan and Iraq. Nailed it.
Yeah, exact
nails that for a person with
advanced dementia deserves the
gold battle, interfering in the
US presidential elections.
Whenever he was losing focus, he
didn't have any reference. Ally,
am I right?
Not having an audience made
Biden even more lost and look
even more isolated and more in
outer space.
Did you ever discover anyone who
was injured or killed? Yeah, the
simplest way would just be to
remove the immunity. A
lot of people with his
advanced level of dementia would
have done way worse. Why am I
right? Over 36,000 seriously
injured Americans from COVID-19
vaccine?
Are you recording me right now?
Everybody here is saying they're
safe. Okay, so
you have to stop recording and
stop recording my place.
Thank you President. Turning off
the opponent's mic and making
each of these candidates go at
90 seconds at a time there's no
interruption.
My husband is an attorney. So
you're not going to put this
video anywhere. So I'm not sure
what you're doing with your
phone up
and down the chain.
Dr. Fauci claims at the NIH have
never funded
I am i right you do not know
what you are talking
about. Okay, so you have to stop
recording me and stop recording
my plates up
and down the chain. Nailed it.
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nails it deserves the gold medal
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