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John C Dvorak: Putin endorses
Trump. Adam curry,
Unknown: Jhansi Dvorak July
4 2020
Adam Curry: for this year award
winning combination media
assassination episode 16. Saudi
Unknown: is no agenda
celebrating
Adam Curry: America and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern
Silicon Valley where we say
Happy Fourth of July
Independence Day in wise Ted
Nugent, not in the Hall of Fame
and Johnson.
Unknown: Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: That's because Ted
Nugent refuses to be in the Hall
of Fame. He outright refuses to
be with the dishes. He didn't
know that. Well, I
John C Dvorak: know that he was
never invited early on. No. And
Adam Curry: that's why, you
know, once abogado I mean, why
would Ted Nugent want to be in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Let's be honest,
John C Dvorak: it's now just
stubborn. I don't blame him,
though. No, of
Adam Curry: course not. Hey, I
think we have a determining
factor that the economy is not
doing well. And also noticed by
many other trolls this morning,
remarkably, less free fireworks
going off this year.
John C Dvorak: Ah, yeah, I'd say
that's the case here too. And I
will say this. We have a third
of July, the best fireworks
display, at least where I am. In
the East Bay is the Richmond
third of July fireworks display,
which they wisely do the day
before the fourth because on the
fourth, I'd say nine times out
of 10. The fog rolls in the
room.
Adam Curry: It's true. The two
times I was out there for Fourth
of July, it was completely
socked in and I didn't, didn't
you and I go up to some building
at one point we were above the
the cloud layer. You could see
the fireworks kind of poking
through. Or is that was that my
imagine? I
John C Dvorak: have done stuff
like that.
Adam Curry: I remember Jay was
there I think she was like 14 or
15 is Am I crazy?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
beside the point. Okay, thanks.
So they did the third of July
fireworks which is always a
winner because there's no fog
and there's usually a slight
breeze so it's it's actually
perfect day to do it. Yeah,
around here. As you mentioned,
it's always fogged in on the
fourth. It's always on the
fourth. You'll sit I don't think
it's gonna be today. Tonight.
But nine out of 10 times it
sucks in so I noticed that there
was they didn't have like last
year they had all these crazy
fireworks heart giant hearts,
triple hearts happy faces. And
my favorite one which I just
every time I saw it I said how
did they do that? A giant cube.
Yo boom a cube. Damn is thing
uma cute now there was no fancy
there was just big bombs or big
Yeah, big you know the big
blossoms and that was it. Boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom. Now I
thought it was disappointing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, I all I
know is that last year and the
year before both years we're out
here in Hill Country Hill
Country. You can't drive from
Austin to Fredericksburg on
route 290 without passing by
eight or nine firework sheds
John C Dvorak: that are citing
fire that would be normal in the
South. Very
Adam Curry: normal. Very normal.
And I just haven't heard it.
There's been I think, like maybe
three days ago someone said
something off, which of course
is where in the hill country
play the get the game. Fireworks
or gunfire. We're never really
sure. But there was nothing last
night I heard one like lady
finger poop. Like okay, the
economy is bad people is bad.
Got no money to blow it up in
the air night.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
know. Richmond itself it when
they have the San Francisco
fireworks, the whole town of
Richmond and as I say half of
Oakland, become home brew
fireworks. Oh, that's the best
homebrew fireworks are the best.
Things are blowing up left and
right. Usually they're usually
done by kind of these block
parties led by some guy named
lefty
Adam Curry: in Oakland
John C Dvorak: doesn't matter.
Well, no, I
Adam Curry: know lefty. Yeah, I
gotcha. So I've been collecting
a couple of clips about
President Biden and and you
know, I think the beautiful
thing right now and you cannot
tell me we are not in the season
of reveal. Now that everyone
everybody that means Well, Joe
Biden is not competent.
Everybody knows that. I hope. I
hope that people also see that
the media has been lying all
this time while they're
desperately trying to cover that
up with all kinds of reporting
about other things besides their
lies. No one that in the media
has called out the jurien for
lying about the cheap fakes that
was the most blatant, obviously.
In fact, and I don't have clips
of that, but I even heard, I
think on CNN has been the best
and especially Jake Tapper. You
know, he's just sitting there
saying, Well, you know, we we
saw a world leaders are trying
to kind of huddle themselves
around the president A D day
like, that's what jurien called
a cheap fake and said the media
coined that phrase. It's really
as we're in an unbelievable time
right now. I just don't know if
anyone cares.
John C Dvorak: I don't see how
it's that different during the
COVID era.
Adam Curry: Window is not it's
not different. But But now, the
lies
John C Dvorak: there's a couple
of things to note are one they
move the the George
Stephanopoulos by interview
interview to tomorrow, prime
time tomorrow primetime. was
Sunday was supposed to be
Sunday.
Adam Curry: Oh, I thought I
thought it was Friday. Do they
move it from Friday to Sunday?
Is that what they do? I was
John C Dvorak: always as the
Sunday shows his Oh,
Stephanopoulos weekend thing.
But they took it and moved it to
primetime. So I knew it was
gonna be primetime Sunday or
when it's going to be Yeah, how
Adam Curry: much how much,
you're gonna bet it's going to
be edited.
John C Dvorak: I'm not taking
that bad. But it could be at but
I was starting to think about
this. And I saw I looked up I
hate to do this, because I tell
people that you want to waste a
lot of time. Do the follow up,
do the Google Search Council on
Foreign Relations roster. Yes.
So I went to the SS. I just
wanted to make sure I think I
already knew this step.
INNOPOLIS was a member of the
Council on Foreign Relations. So
I went to the SS and I just want
to read a few of the names. Go
go through here you guys and
let's
Adam Curry: let's just explain
Council on Foreign Relations.
That's it is a drinking club,
but not like Bilderberg
Bilderberg is truly a wine and
cheese club at this point.
John C Dvorak: The Council on
Foreign Relations is a globalist
cabal. If you're a member, you
always have work, and you're
expected to perform a certain
way. Yes. And I started to
notice this this the Council on
Foreign Relations. It's all
their journalists, all of them.
From Tom Friedman, who's in the
Council on Foreign Relations to
the rest of them at the New York
Times all these New York Times
guys that are turned they have
turned on Biden. Yes. Great.
They've all turned on by now I'm
gonna read some names from the
SS and just because it's worth
mentioning, we got to start with
Jeffrey Sachs. You've heard of
him then yeah, go down and down
in here. People like Barbara
Christie Samuels. The second I
don't know who that is, as
Sheryl Sandberg Of course, lean
in. I mean, what y'all Yes.
She's obvious expert. She's the
CEO of a. She was a Facebook.
Yes. And so she's obviously an
expert on Foreign Relations. So
she should be in the club. Yeah.
David Sanger, New York Times
with us. David sapper Steen
Anthony Scaramucci, I forget
that he's on there. The mooch
now the mooch was like, worked
for Trump for a while and then
and we did an interview with him
for this show. It's one of the
few interviews we do right.
Yeah. And he was seemed normal.
And then all of a sudden he
turned on Trump out of the blue
for no good reason. He was
obviously told to it. He got the
call. He's He's like a hedge
fund guy with a restaurant. I
mean, why is he an expert and
Bitcoin and Bitcoin? Joe
Scarborough, obviously is on the
list. Even though Brzezinski is
not on the list, and he's turned
on Biden.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, he had
to I mean, he is really a
puppet. I mean, we've seen that
over and over again.
John C Dvorak: And then it ran
into this. I forgot that she's
on the list. Vivian Schiller ah,
Adam Curry: the old NPR lady.
Yeah, advertising,
John C Dvorak: whatever you want
to call it. Woman.
Adam Curry: Isn't she running?
Oh, she's
John C Dvorak: a teacher doing
some She's always got a job
because people always get
worried.
Adam Curry: Oh, she's the CEO of
the Aspen Institute. No, no, no,
that can't be hold on a second.
What is she doing? Let me see.
What is she doing now? So listen
to this. She was former
president, CEO of NPR, former
head of news at Twitter. Former
senior vice president at NBC
News and indeed executive
director of aspen digital. So
she's really on that she's
really on. She does the podcast
for the Aspen Institute. You're
on you're on the lowest rung
Viv.
John C Dvorak: Going down the
list we have Eric Schmidt, XR
bunny, who used to be the you
know this Oh are the CTO of Sun
Microsystems became the CEO of
Google, obvious expert on
Foreign Relations now that he
Adam Curry: is running the drone
war the The miniature drone war
in Ukraine. He's working Megan
John C Dvorak: J. Smith. Isn't
Adam Curry: that Kara Swisher is
ex wife ex wife? Yeah, ex
husband, whatever, whatever you
John C Dvorak: want to call her.
Google? Yes. Great fun. That
would be weird. Because by the
way, just for your informations,
Cara's not on the list. No,
neither was Galloway and it
probably irks them.
Adam Curry: That they haven't
been invited into
John C Dvorak: the CLI. Yeah,
probably does. I'm not on the
list. Yeah, it probably does
hurt him that you mentioned
that. Oh, Andrew Ross Sorkin Oh,
yeah. Well on CNBC all the time,
you X New York Times guy typical
George and Jonathan Soros right
beneath them. Yes,
Adam Curry: Alex. Alex Soros not
on the list. No,
John C Dvorak: George and
Jonathan. And they're stepping
up a list and then I went
through the rest of it. I would
define Patty stones, stone
cipher, whatever her name is.
She's a Microsoft person.
Adam Curry: Go to the GC if
Donald Gregg is still on there,
my uncle.
John C Dvorak: Do you help me
finish this? Okay, yeah, I'll do
that right now. Stonesifer, then
Lawrence Summers we know then
John Sununu. Donald Greg.
There's a lot of see there's an
interesting group of people.
There's, there's a lot of New
York Times a lot of media
people, a few actors. Lots of
gay people.
Adam Curry: Yeah, go look up my
uncle, Greg. GR e Double G. I
wonder. I wonder if he's still
in I pray camp? No,
John C Dvorak: he's not good.
Good for Uncle Don. Well, it
doesn't mean he's not wanted.
Adam Curry: He he's, he wouldn't
want to do it anymore. He's
done. He's tired of them all.
Well, he
John C Dvorak: probably can't,
you know.
Adam Curry: Anyway, let's go.
Let's go to the Stephanopoulos
is doing
John C Dvorak: so let me finish
my thought. Which is that since
the Council on Foreign
Relations, which includes these
people we mentioned, there's
tons of others. Chelsea Clinton,
for example. Oh, yeah. Cuz she
knows they've all turned on
Biden. What's to make us think
that this interview that they
moved to primetime isn't a
setup.
Adam Curry: I think that is
exactly what the point is. I've
been tracking ABC I have two
clips from them. And they are
starting to open the gap and
leaving it wide open to kick the
old man through
Unknown: in the first stunning
indication that President Biden
is seriously considering his
next step. Sources tell ABC News
Biden told at least two people
his next few public appearances
are critical to determining
whether he can stay in the race.
They say the President is
keeping an open mind about his
path forward saying he knows he
has to perform well on his
upcoming campaign stops as well
as his Friday interview with ABC
George Stephanopoulos change
public perception there
Adam Curry: this thing Friday,
so I have a feeling they're not
going to wait until Sunday John
that they're going to do it
Friday primetime when
everybody's know
John C Dvorak: what the deal
was. This was for his Sunday
show and they were going to
record it on Friday. Which gives
him the two days to edit it.
Yes. And the AI but if they're
going in the opposite, they're
Adam Curry: gonna they're gonna
tank him. It's obvious they're
gonna tank him
Unknown: George Stephanopoulos
to change public perception.
separately. The New York Times
first reported that Biden is
weighing whether to continue his
reelection bid a claim the White
House quickly rejected.
The President is clear eyed, and
he is staying in the race clear
evidence widely can debate
performance last week left his
campaign scrambling to stave off
mounting concerns about his
mental fitness. Today, Biden
speaking to Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer for the
first time since the debate,
according to a top White House
aide, just one day after he
spoke to House Democratic Leader
Hakeem Jeffries, he
has done this outreach. He's
having these conversations. It
is important to him to do so
with just
four months until election day,
many Democrats now torn between
backing the President or
rallying behind it you
candidate, Texas Democratic
Representative Lloyd Doggett on
CNN becoming the first to break
ranks,
I just feel that it's time for
him to step aside if we were to
be able to protect what he
allowed us to gain and 2020
which was a victory for
democracy. Sources, the
Vice President Harris cutter
vacation short and flew back to
Washington to attend a lunch
with the President. And tonight
Biden also meeting privately
with Democratic governors as
concerns reach a critical point.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so this was
interesting that the governors
all went to the White House. I
think there were eight or nine
of them, only three came out
Unknown: at the one Whitehouse
tonight 25 Democratic governors
25 Biden, three of them emerging
including Governor Hogan, with a
message of support from the
group.
I'm here to tell you today,
President Joe Biden is in it to
win it. The President has always
had our best we're gonna have
his back as well. Well, we
saw it in there today was a guy
who was the guy that all of us
believed in the first time who
could beat Donald Trump and did
become the Biden administration
hastily called the meeting of
democratic by the
Adam Curry: way this this was
inside the White House and that
you you hear the band playing,
and they do this long shot of
Biden walking up the aisle. It
was so, so sad. They did this
because you know how we walked,
right?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he walks he
walks with a bad gait. He has a
bad gait, he has like a gait of
someone with Parkinson's.
Unknown: The Biden
administration hastily called
the meeting of Democratic
governors as it struggles
hastily damage after the
president's performance on the
debate stage last Thursday.
Today, he appeared on two radio
shows and explained his problem
was that he had a cold, had
jetlag and had been overly
prepared with statistics. Now
Adam Curry: listen to this. So
he did two very obscure one was
a network but black red to black
radio shows because that's, you
know, if we can still trick the
black people, we're good to go
failing
Unknown: to connect with the
American people. CNN aired a
part of one of those interviews
tonight and a
bad night. And the fact of the
matter is that, you know, it was
I screwed up, I made a mistake.
Adam Curry: Now listen to this,
where he's reading the script,
because no one would would say
it this way. But of course, he's
reading a script. That's
Unknown: 90 minutes on stage.
Look at what I've done in 3.5
years, you
Adam Curry: would have said
three and a half years, don't
you think instead of 3.5, you
could just see the script there
on paper? 3.3. That's
John C Dvorak: a great, that's a
great catch. You don't nobody
says 3.5 when he's talking about
three and a half. If you're just
casually conversing you might
write 3.5. Yeah, exactly. Which
is what was there? If you're
reading it, you'd read 3.5. But
yes,
Unknown: that's three minutes on
stage. Look at what I've done in
3.5 years.
Still, Sources tell ABC News The
president has privately
acknowledged the next few days
will be critical, telling an
ally that while he still views
himself as the best candidate to
defeat Donald Trump, he's
keeping quote, an open mind
about the path forward.
Adam Curry: These people are now
being mean, week. Look, we know
the top of his head was off
twice, but you don't have to,
like, you know, pointed out to
everybody that his mind is open
or
Unknown: from, though the
official line is defiance,
he is staying in the race. I
don't have anything else beyond
that. He is staying. He's
staying in the race.
John C Dvorak: Where's the word
Alliance? This is the official
line who's using the word
defiance?
Adam Curry: The she didn't say
that she
John C Dvorak: just knows. I'm
talking about the media.
Adam Curry: I know. That's what
I'm saying that the official
line is defiance, and there's no
official line that even includes
the word or even sounds like
defiance. Defiance
John C Dvorak: is one of those
negative words a loaded word
that the media loves to use when
they're when they're slanting a
story. And so different because
it means you're you're it means
you're something's wrong with
you. You're defining. I'm just
defining, oh, you're not making
sense. I that's that's, that's a
great clip. From
Unknown: his press secretary,
though the official line is
defiance.
Yes, staying in the race. I
don't have anything else beyond
that. He is staying he's staying
in the race.
It's notable that of the 25
Democratic governors who
participated in tonight's
meeting, only three emerged
publicly back the president the
most mentioned Biden
replacements Gavin Newsom of
California Gretchen Whitmer of
Michigan, JB Pritzker of
Illinois all of them avoided the
cameras tonight only two of them
releasing written statements
supporting Biden Yeah,
Adam Curry: it was short
sharpening the knives that have
no
John C Dvorak: time. I'd like to
know what what the Democrats are
thinking to include Pritzker.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, I'll
get to that. But none none of
these people are ever going to
be pressed. No,
John C Dvorak: I know. I'm
understanding that that nobody's
going to it's gonna either be
Harris or nobody
Adam Curry: we need Yes, that's
my point. We need a horse race.
We need to get everybody
engaged. This is for just for
television ratings, nothing
else. Well,
John C Dvorak: how is that
getting ratings using Pritzker?
Adam Curry: Because that guy's
fun to look at with that big fat
head. They always do the big
close up. They like to end.
John C Dvorak: Will brother.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's
right.
John C Dvorak: What so that's
the main thing, Kelly.
Adam Curry: What's Kelly
Pritzker. Anyway, the pressures
on According to Chris Kristen
Welker of NBC Today,
Unknown: this is just an
unprecedented moment with the
President, frankly, facing more
pressure by the Danish
Democrats, as you say they
defended President Biden over
concerns about his age, but
things clearly changed since the
debate. There's just been In a
wave of panic within the party
based on my conversations, and
it is those cracks are starting
to emerge I just saw gave map
out. But the question is, will
the pressure be enough for the
president to step aside? Here's
what I'm looking for credit.
What happens to polling in the
coming days and weeks do donors
start to the President? And do
more lawmakers start to air
their concerns publicly, if a
top Democrat, for example,
starts to come out and call for
the President to drop out of the
running? That's a game changer.
That's when the floodgates
really open?
Adam Curry: Oh, that will be a
game. Let's see what the Biden
administration Oh, this, this is
so good. I mean, pay attention
to this because you're not gonna
hear this kind of stuff. Often
in your life. Considering the
four year cycle, this is really,
particularly from it, you know,
this is a Democrat, you know,
the media is is Democrat, they
are the other all left leaning,
borderline Marxist. They're all
authoritarian. They love just,
you know, just getting mad at
the right and the far right and
the GOP and the conservatives
and the, you know, the fascist
fascist, yes, they're Nazis.
This is this is something to
behold this is really a
beautiful moment. You know, I
hope we have four more years of
this
Unknown: chasing downs from
within his party and new polling
that shows the president falling
further behind former President
Trump. Today candidate Biden
telling his team, no one is
pushing me out. The President
and Vice President held a
conference call with campaign
staff. Officials say he was
direct saying to AIDS, let me
say this as clearly as I
possibly can, as simply and
straightforward as I can. I am
running I'm run nearly a week
after the debate that the White
House labels a bad night. The
President called key
congressional Democrats
officials here acknowledging the
strain that the last few days
have been challenging, with more
troubling signs and new polling
done after the debate. President
Biden now trailing former
President Trump by six points.
Adam Curry: Have you Let's go on
LinkedIn and see if a dream
Kaboul update or if her resume
is out there yet. She's got to
be she's Hey, Linda Lou.
Unknown: Oba it would be open
for World
Adam Curry: entertaining offers.
Unknown: 80% of those surveyed
said they consider the president
too old to run again. The White
House says the president is now
feeling great. After assigning a
cold on debate night, the
President told donors Tuesday
evening that he had jetlag to
the debate was 12 days after his
return from Europe. The
President said that this is not
an excuse, but an explanation.
So of
Adam Curry: course, they went to
the piggy bank turned it upside
down. Stop.
John C Dvorak: That's another
final piece of wordage Oh, yeah,
it's not an excuse. It's an
explanation. That is dynamite.
Adam Curry: It's it's quite
good. Honey. I did not cheat.
I'm not making an excuse. I'm
just making an explanation. That
didn't quite come out. Right.
No, that
John C Dvorak: was no good. No,
there
Adam Curry: was no good anyway,
John C Dvorak: but you could
structure it that way. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So they broke the
piggy bank took out the last
pennies. Let's do one more add
everybody we can convince them
Unknown: to see Trump last
night. I mean it sincerely and
most lies told him the single
debate. The great economy
created he lied about the
pandemic he bucks his biggest
lie. He lied about how he had
nothing to do with the
insurrection in January. Solid
our own eyes. We're gonna walk
down to the
Capitol, and I'll be there with
you.
And Christoph police attack. The
Capitol being ransacked France
is not a single thing to stop at
nothing. I know I'm not a young
man. I know how to do this job.
I know I know how to tell the
truth. I know like millions of
Americans know when you get
knocked down you get back on Joe
Biden to this message your
Adam Curry: that's really
amazing piece of editing that
ending there. You could just put
Hitler in there.
Unknown: I know how to tell
you get knocked down you get on
Joe Biden approve this message.
Adam Curry: You know, everything
that really could have could
have been a Hitler Hitler had
Yeah. So here's I just want
everybody to hear a big loser if
you want to hear a loser. Now a
guy who granted is trying to be
do the right thing. But he
didn't read the tea leaves. This
is the biggest loser of the
year. This is the governor of
Colorado, some
Unknown: polls out Governor this
week so that 70% of Americans
that were still concerned about
his age and they say people like
you, Governor polis will say as
sharp as ever. There's no
issues, but they have eyes. They
have ears. They see him stumbles
during a speech. They listen to
him mispronounce words from time
to time. What do you say to that
voter? Well, I hear what
Governor Poulos is saying, but I
also can see and hear myself.
First
of all, I don't know if many
American people know what the
President was, he was very open
about that. He just had a
stuttering problem since he was
a young man. So I mean, if you
look at him talking during his
Senate career decades ago, no.
Adam Curry: Let's go back to
2014 Biden, let's see if he was
stuttering. Then
Unknown: I aspire for one of my
grandchildren become wealthy. So
when they put me in a home, I
get a window with a view, you
know, right now. As I, as I
pointed out, it was
embarrassing. Bernie Sanders net
worth is more than mine. I have
less money than a socialist. I
don't know what the hell
happened. I've been doing this
for 44 years. I mean, you think
I'm kidding. I'm not kidding.
Unfortunately.
Adam Curry: No, he had no
stutter problem, though.
John C Dvorak: The thing is,
Unknown: he's always had issues
around articulation.
John C Dvorak: No, we just heard
on this show over the last 17
years we have done because it
started during our show and he
started to sound drunk. Yeah.
And we even had a theme for it
because we play a Biden clip
when he was vice president in an
onward called drunk or not drunk
specifically for his clips. Yes.
Adam Curry: Onward part of
Unknown: his personal narrative
that he talks about how we
overcame speech disability to
become a leader speech
disability is today I also think
it isn't it can't really be an
election issue when the likely
nominee on the other side is
basically just as old and
probably in worse health worse.
So how can this be an election
issue when the comparable
candidate the likely nominee of
the Republican Party, not only
is of the same age but also is
obese is not as healthy doesn't
exercise as much
Adam Curry: All right, loser Oh,
this
John C Dvorak: guy is never
wasn't read in know this. I'm
Adam Curry: saying he's a loser.
He's out. He's not even going to
be the governor of Colorado for
long as there's no way wrong
script palp. So now we get into
the the pivot here that we all
have heard. We need to start it
off with Van Jones on CNN, Van
Jones, not a dummy. You know,
Bezos gave him $100 million to
give away as he saw fit for his
for his nonprofit. So I'm sure
some of that went to the
campaign. But you know, where's
he going to put the money now?
He even drops a little k word in
here. Like, I
Unknown: just gotta be honest. I
mean, please, everybody comes
on. Well, that's refreshing. Van
be honest, for once. Look, I
just got to be honest. I mean,
everybody comes on the air and
says all this great stuff. But
behind the scenes, it's full
scale panic. People are passing
around legal memos, PDFs, are
flying back and forth on
WhatsApp trying to figure out
what are the options? How can
you replace Biden? How do you
get them to do it in a way where
he feels respected as he should
be respected? Who should Kamala
Harris's vice president be the
conversation on air and the
conversation off? Oh,
I
Adam Curry: mean, he just
dropped that in like a lead
balloon. He's like, Yeah, we got
PDS flying back and forth on
WhatsApp. We got legal briefs
who should come was vice
president and be Hello van here
Unknown: are completely
different. And so I same thing
with you saw with with the Trump
situation where people would
come on here and defend Trump,
and then you talk to people and
then we got a crazy candidate.
We don't have a crazy candidate.
We have a great candidate, we
have a beautiful man, we have
someone who loves this country,
we have someone who has given
his all I mean, it's all to the
last drop for this country, but
he may not be able to get across
the finish line and mature party
has to take that into account
and that is what's happening.
And so look, I understand people
want to you know, defend them
and protect them and give him
their space and the dignity to
make his own choice. But there
is a big conversation happening
right now about how this happens
not whether
Adam Curry: you know it's
actually kind of interesting he
says something in here that it
could have been code is not but
I want to explain it let me see
if his
Unknown: passing around legal
memos, PDS with flying back and
forth on I didn't
Adam Curry: say ride nevermind.
So that's Van Jones. Basically
say it's going to be comme la
we're looking at all the legal
ramifications, all different
angles as a law. Van Jones has
money so it's a big man on
campus. Now if you really want
to know what's going to happen.
We need to go to the source to
the real one of the people with
the real big money which makes
it not not the biggest but
probably the most visible who
doesn't speak much and he was at
the Aspen Ideas festival this is
the this is the fest out there
where all the nerds go and hang
out. I mean the rich ones are
billionaires. Yeah, we're gonna
change the world with AI and
technology. And I'm sure that
that's where a lot of these PDF
files were flying around.
John C Dvorak: Yeah What was
that Pete? Why does he have to
use PDF?
Adam Curry: Well that in Swayze
say that
John C Dvorak: why did you say
files or flood you know,
documents or flood
Adam Curry: doesn't make me say
this in in slang on social
media. Now he didn't say it he
said PDFs if you see PDF files
that is actually code for PDF
files, PDF files so you because
you know you don't want to get
to the platform so
John C Dvorak: you use code what
you didn't know that did you? I
did not you got me on now mo
taught
Adam Curry: me that when PDF
files to people say to PDF
files. So for black Van Jones,
he didn't say PDF file. So I
don't think it was any any coded
messages. They're probably
actually sending legal memos
around because listen to this,
Ari Emanuel, of course brother
of ROM but ROM is, you know,
he's Ambassador somewhere now.
But Ari, Ari, I mean, he is a
big man on campus. Ari controls
a lot. He's in charge of
Hollywood. He's He's, well,
yeah, he and Katzenberg are
really in charge of Hollywood.
So they control and there's a
lot of money attracted to
Hollywood, I like to hang out
with a star. So Ari is going to
lay it out. And he's very clear.
And I think this is the true
deconstruction of what it is
what's going on, and where it's
headed. Without a doubt.
Unknown: We're looking at a man
who's saying the other guy's a
liar. And he's telling us
Malarkey, his people are telling
us Malarkey, but we're in a very
bad problem. He is not the
candidate anymore. I mean, if
you all remember this illegal
issue, now, he was gonna get
kicked off the ballot. And in
Ohio, they elected him the
candidate so you no longer can
remove him in three swing
states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
and Michigan, there's only one
Democratic Congress, Michigan,
they have to vote to remove him.
I don't believe the Republican
Party and in Pennsylvania, and
in in Wisconsin, they're gonna
do that. Okay. And if they do
it, then Kamala Harris, you we
don't have there's, this is
legal. So lawyers gonna have to
look at this and everybody says,
we'll get rid of them and
brokered convention. No. Now
maybe the delicate there's some
question whether the delegates
can do something. And I promised
myself I wasn't gonna swear. So
we're in a, this a pickle. You
know, the lifeblood too. And I
have a brother who's a
politician. He's an ambassador,
as it said, The lifeblood to a
campaign. In politics. The
lifeblood is money. And maybe
the only way this gets with
smart lawyers looking at it is
if the money starts drying up,
and I've talked, I mean, I'm
assuming all of you've gotten a
lot of calls, I've gotten a lot
of calls, we've all sat there it
was who was mad, I was gonna say
what happens now you know, it
but if this is, as Biden says,
the fight for our democracy, and
he talks about the soldiers,
man, he he he gave us a bunch of
malarkey. And I'm really pissed.
Right, we all should be really
present.
And what does this do to Jeffrey
Katzenberg, fundraising? Well,
you know,
Jeffrey, I mean, you're gonna
know in the next couple of
you're gonna see polling and see
that in the next couple of
weeks, if the money comes in, I
talked to a bunch of big donors,
and they're moving all their
money to Congress and the
Senate. I mean, I cannot believe
we're in this situation. Well as
one of the great disruptors in
your career. I mean, do we have
to sit by and sleep with this
legal issue? Yeah, you're
you're, you're not in. I'm gonna
resign, you know, unless the
lawyers tell you something else.
And maybe there's some wiggle
room. I haven't seen it. And I'm
not a lawyer. We're in flux
city.
Adam Curry: There you go. So
that's clear for everybody. They
can't get out of it. Kamala is
going to be the candidate if and
when Joe withdraws, drops out
drops dead. And I think you and
I have seen Wow, what a
coincidence having that Vogue
article come out. The day after
the debate or two days after the
debate with that Jill Biden on
the cover, they never had
Melania on the cover, by the
way, an actual an actual, an
actual supermodel. Now I don't
have her on the cover. And she's
talking about y'all, you want to
see what powers like powers like
we can step off a plane and you
can whisk around town through
that red lights is awesome. You
know, $10,000 dress now.
Fantastic, Gil, so they're not
going to give up. That doesn't
seem like it but something will
give because there's just too
much pressure here Wall Street's
take.
Unknown: Do you think people are
under estimating Kamala Harris?
It's almost become.
Oh, absolutely. Look, you know,
three advantages. One should be
totally underestimated in
politics having low expectations
is one of the greatest
advantages you could have.
Secondly, she gets all the Biden
Harris money, which is not able
to be transferred to any other
candidate. So she gets the war
chest, she'll be very well
funded. Third, look at her
approval rating with Democrats.
84%. She's much more popular
within the President with young
voters. She's very popular with
black voters, and she'll help
drive women turnout by women. I
think people will totally
underestimate the vice
president. I
John C Dvorak: put my money on
her. Yeah,
Adam Curry: put my money on her.
So of course camo
John C Dvorak: like worse than a
bad novel. This is great that
Kamala Harris, the blowjob
artists from the Bay Area has
managed to get all the way to
the presidency. This is like
that, that the novel by Jerzy
Kaczynski, I think is his last
name. I can't remember anymore.
Being there, which became a
movie of about Chauncey
Gardiner, who was a gardener
who, who's you? I don't know if
you remember that story. But
this is what this looks like, to
me, some woman who was just kind
of a character, to say the
least, and just all of a sudden
she's president of the United
States. Really? I don't think
so.
Adam Curry: How does that movie
end?
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
how it ends.
Adam Curry: What is Brunetti
doing? Is he is he directing
this? Is he producing this rod?
It's totally possible. He
John C Dvorak: wishes Yeah.
Adam Curry: So because Kamala
has to step up now. And she's
got to make sure look, the one
thing well, no, she's black.
She's black. She's the first
black, Vice President first
black female vice president. Of
course, she's as black as Barack
Obama was black when you're
talking about black America, his
brown skin, but She's Jamaican.
She's Canadian. And she's an
Indian. Brahman, Brahman. Oh,
John C Dvorak: she's a Brahmin.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So what do you do?
We go talk black on the BT
awards. You get on with your
girlfriend, your girlfriend?
Yeah, you know, with the terace.
So
Unknown: what's on your mind?
Oh, madam VP here is I'm worried
about the election.
Adam Curry: Have you seen this,
this particular clip in this? So
it's one of those things they
roll in on the BT awards, and
Taraji is in her in her dressing
room. And she's on FaceTime with
Madame VP. And she's all madam
VP. I'm so worried and Madam VP
is in her office with some
important looking paper, you
know, in a pan, one of these
folders like she's about to sign
some important legislation. And
she's taking a break here taking
a break to talk to her, her pal,
Taraji. It's Raj is an actress
women's reproductive
Unknown: rights on the line. Our
Supreme Court is on the line.
Our basic freedoms are being
tested. Madam VP,
I know you've been traveling
cross country. What are you
hearing? Yeah, girl, I'm out
here in the streets. And you got
girl.
Adam Curry: I'm out here. I'm
out here in the streets. I'm out
here in the streets, girl.
That's right. I'm hearing.
Unknown: Yeah, girl. I'm out
here in these streets. And let
me tell you, you're right.
terace. There is so much at
stake in this moment. The
majority of us believe in
freedom and equality. But these
extremist as they say they're
not like us as
Adam Curry: they say they're not
like us, John, how you talk now.
They're not like us. This is hot
sauce. That
John C Dvorak: nasal,
condescending nasal. She's got a
screwy voice. This does not
appeal to anybody. It's it's
insincere. It's super nasally
it's actually somebody defined
it as a Berkeley accent. And
it's just annoying when when she
ran for president against the
field. She's one of the first to
drop out because no Democrats
liked her at all. But now all of
a sudden according to the clip,
you just play a couple clips ago
82% Of all the Democrats love
her love her pull these now.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we'll
get to some analysis in a
moment. I just want to play the
rest of this code switch. This
isn't I'm doing a show with Moe
pretty soon we got if we have
to, we have to get a show out.
Because this, you know to say
this street talk all of a sudden
now she's doing all I can talk.
I can talk like black America
does talk like this. That's
fine. But you not that lady. But
Unknown: these extremist as they
say they're not like us. They
don't lie they not there's a
full on, on our fundamental
freedoms, the freedom to vote.
Yeah, the freedom to love who
you love the freedom to be safe
from gun violence. The freedom
for a woman
Adam Curry: the freedom to be
safe from gun violence is just
the best freedom the founders
ever came up with all I declare
we shall be free from gun
violence after we kick the
British his butt to
Unknown: make decisions about
her own body not having a
government tell her what to do,
John C Dvorak: like get a shot.
Do you mean like a VAX mandate?
Yep away PRI Plan B
Adam Curry: oh wait now they've
got the piece here see they've
got the four Ps you gotta check
it out and plan
Unknown: it not having a
government. We go
John C Dvorak: we got laid out
here trying to take away PRI
plan B plan B Planned Parenthood
Adam Curry: pistols so we take
away pride Plan B. Planned
Parenthood but they protect them
pistols a lot of peas in there.
If you ask
Unknown: me a question the wrong
bees. They want to turn back the
clock on our hard fought
progress. Now I Know Why the
Caged Bird Sings. Well, what can
we do? We will do what
we have always done. Well, we're
gonna we're gonna cheat fight
for our freedoms. But here's the
thing we cannot fight alone. We
need to get our families our
friends co workers cousins play
cousins, aunties and uncles. Get
all of them in a registered vote
again,
Adam Curry: aunties and uncles
play cousins and play cousins.
It's just so so
John C Dvorak: I can't wait to
talk to Mozart pandering it's
called pandering and it's very
identifiable. Anyone who listens
to stuff like this can recognize
it I don't have to be an idiot
not to
Adam Curry: I talked to moe for
hours on end doing the podcast I
don't start talking like yo mo
like then like that man like I
don't talk like that now if you
want to hear someone who's
really unhinged I just
John C Dvorak: I love I love the
collected a good color. Yeah,
thank
Adam Curry: you. Well, I had
help the Jones brothers are in
there as well. Here's Joy read
Joy read on the street now
because you know she didn't have
she seems to be on MSNBC 14
hours a day but it wasn't
enough. No, we've got to do a
little little we got to do a
live
Unknown: y'all just tell me who
the nominee is gonna be. Let me
know when you guys are finished
fighting amongst yourselves. Who
I got to vote for in November to
keep Hitler out the White House.
That's all I want to know. For
to keep Hitler out the White
House. Y'all do your thing. Play
in traffic all you want in front
of these Republicans acting a
fool in front of these people
instead of privately declaring
your stuff but don't text me no
more. Because I'm not taking the
more of the six. Just let me
know when you guys are finished
figuring it out Democrats
because I know y'all the
freakout people go ahead and
freak out. Have your
conversation. And then let me
know who I gotta vote for to
keep Hitler out the White House.
That's it. I'm done. Oh, and by
the way, if it's Biden in a
coma, I'm a vote for by Finnick
coma. I don't even really
particularly like the guy. Lot
his policy don't like he's not
Donald Trump, right? Yeah,
Hitler White House, we keeping
them out keeping project 2025
out. That's all I care about up
and down the ballot from the
rooter to the tooter school
board, to White House and
everything in between governors,
members of Congress, I'm just
gonna vote all the way down to
keep these people out. The
project. 2025 thing is the whole
Republican Party at this point.
It's not about Biden, it is not
about him. It's above me now.
There's a Best Western next
door. It is about keeping Donald
Trump and his project 2025
friends out of power. Now,
Adam Curry: I thought this clip
was interesting because that is
the entire mission of the
Democrat party. You will not
hear anyone say, hey, you know,
we've really we've got a weak
economy. It looks strong, but
people are hungry. We have
problems with inflation, you
know, invidious propping up the
whole stock market. We have two
wars going on Israel's about to
pick a fight with Hezbollah. You
know, when does it go to Iraq?
No, none of that these people
don't care about America at all.
All they care about is rooter to
the tooter all they care about
is not getting Trump in that
Trump does not become president.
That's all they care about. And
the new talking point is back to
that tired old project 2025
which is from the Heritage
Foundation. We went through it
it's not all that crazy. It's
not like you know we're going to
be lynching people.
John C Dvorak: Let's stop for a
second and take and take stock
reflect on this joy reads she's
on tick tock doing these things.
Yeah, this is ruining her brand.
Adam Curry: What brand
John C Dvorak: she has her brand
is on CNN or MSNBC never
remember which of the two was
same thing. And she's scripted.
She's made up to the 10s she's,
you know, looks good on that
show. She's got a good script to
read and she's got a pitch
that's not bad. For that side of
the of the argument. She comes
on here and she's got no makeup
on. She's bald as a billiard.
She's ugly. She's an ugly, ugly
well woman and she's lecturing
you, she's in a condescending
manner that they would never
allow on television. They would.
Her producers would call her out
for that. She's condescending
enough on television, but not
like these tick tock videos. And
it's annoying, and I think
they're gonna I think she's
gonna end up losing your job.
Oh, but his thing I've ever seen
anybody do is these videos, I
will crush you, by the way, way
too close to the camera, just
like holy shit. scare the crap
out of kids. It's just terrible,
terrible.
Adam Curry: Well, we don't want
that to happen, John, because we
still have four more years to
go. We need Joy read for the
comedic element of the show. But
the point being that the talking
point is we don't want Trump in.
And with the evil project 2025
which is it's just not all that
evil. It's like, okay, so
they're pro life. Ah, okay. Gee,
how incredibly evil. It's not
all that evil is that, you know,
it's a plan for America. And,
you know, we've discussed
John C Dvorak: I mean, anything,
this is just another one of
those things. It's like, I know,
Contract with America. It's just
a variation of that, which was
done by Newt Gingrich back.
Exactly, exactly. In the olden
days. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But you know, I
think because it's project 2025
It's somehow it's contrasting
the 1619 project that hoax,
which completely rewrote
American history. Like we're
just slave owners, someone
posted today it was a retweet on
podcast index dot social, which
I I tried to keep politics out
of that group actually just
blocked the person who, who was
retweeted and went away from the
timeline. It was like you know,
we declare these truths to be
self evident. unalienable,
inalienable rights. Now, excuse
me while I go and Rate My slave
it's like, what are you people
doing? The it's disgusting. It
really is. It's It pisses me off
on people that anyway, there's
only one thing that could spoil
the soil, even though you and I
and many people who have written
us all agree that the evidence
for Biden's ailment is more
Parkinson's than anything
John C Dvorak: else which I can
to back and forth with a number
of people because he doesn't
have the tremors. And I don't
have incorrect that it's not
necessarily tremors you how you
not all Parkinson's results in
tremors. Right but that gait in
particular as Parkinson's is
part and the dementia.
Adam Curry: So, but the in the
uninformed electorate people say
oh, he's got Alzheimer's. So
let's just say that's what
people believe it doesn't matter
if they're correct or not. This
could be the saving grace.
People living with Alzheimer's
have a new medication option,
the FDA approved monoclonal
antibody designed to slow the
early stages of the disease by
helping remove plaque in the
brain. The drug will be sold
under the name kazoo law, about
7 million Americans 65 years and
older live with Alzheimer's.
Okay, Eli Lilly be free.
John C Dvorak: I have I have a
better version of that.
Adam Curry: Can I just say Can I
just say one thing about this?
Eli Lilly Hello, you need to
talk to the curry Devorah
consulting group about your
name. So the name is terrible.
It should be called Joe's Empik
obviously
John C Dvorak: for a curry or
grade ofour ag joke consultants.
Now, they let that report is not
as good as the anti D one which
is the Alzheimer's drug because
there's a little phrase in there
that they left in by having the
doctor come on and talk about
it. And that phrase just floored
me. On
Unknown: Tuesday the Food and
Drug Administration approved Eli
Lilly's Alzheimer's medication,
the non mob the no BAP the new
treatment is designed to slow
the progression of early stages
of Alzheimer's disease.
Neurologist Richard Isaacson
says this is good news.
Good news is drug shows us is
that the earlier we're into we
intervene, the better the
patient will do. We can have
slowing by 35% that buys a lot
of time and that's very
exciting.
The drug will also be used to
treat patients with mild
cognitive impairment and the
mild dementia stage of
Alzheimer's disease. And June a
panel of independent FDA
advisors agreed do not by nobody
was safe and effective. It will
be sold under the name of Kiss
and constant $195 a vial before
insurance you're
John C Dvorak: dead, safe and
effective
Adam Curry: and effective. To
wrap this segment up, someone
alerted me to or pointed this
little segment out from our
show. This is from Episode What
was it 1446 do when it was this
this is let me see, I think it's
April, April 28 2022. I'm going
to double down on this we have
about five more months until the
election, a lot can happen a lot
can happen in the stock market,
a lot can happen in the economy,
a lot can happen. on the global
stage with wars, I'm
particularly looking at what's
happening now with Hezbollah,
you know, we killed one of their
top guys, that's never, that's
never something people take
lightly. Let's go back for a
second and listen to what my
prediction was. And I'm gonna
make a prediction. It'll be very
similar to my prediction that I
made in 2015. By the time 2024
rolls around, it is my belief
and my sincere belief. Or I
could say, I do believe that
people, even people on the left
will be begging for Trump.
There'll be begging for him to
come back and fix it. That's my
prediction. You write it down.
John C Dvorak: That's a pretty
wild one.
Adam Curry: I'm doubling down on
it. And I
John C Dvorak: don't see anybody
begging him. But yeah, I think
getting him in there's no doubt
about that. Now, I want to make
a comment. I have to bring in
something Mimi brought up about
Biden, and that is, and she has
two points she made one is about
the dogs is dogs. And tusks.
Being kennel owners we know
about dog behavior. He had two
dogs, two German shepherds that
bit Secret Service guys in there
a bite multiple times, multiple
times, multiple biters. She says
that if you're in a household
where you're protecting somebody
because he's sick that Biden kit
you know, you're overdoing it,
it creates an anxiety in the
room that the dogs sense and
they pick up on and they become
extremely protective. Oh, biting
people that just random people
are supposed to be young,
especially
Adam Curry: people who are close
to the President trying to do
their secret service duty. So
John C Dvorak: that is an
interesting point I liked and
but the other one, which was
Siccar point and it's more of a
Unknown: and this more women can
go on like me me. Yes,
John C Dvorak: is that we know
if we really looked back on a
Joe Biden, throughout his career
was a prick. He would shoot
people out, he put poke him in
the chest, he was in a hole. We
know this with that poor woman
who accused him of sexual
assault. And as she had to move
to Russia, who was on the staff.
He has to be that according to
her, he has to be that way all
the time. He know that words was
probably a mean spirited, a
whole husband that Jill married
and stayed with and put up with
a lot of crap. It's an she's now
on the she has the upper hand
now. And she can torment and
torture him by making him run
more to leave letting him get
humiliated constantly. As nurse,
she's like a nurse ratchet. And
she's just turned into this a
woman who can now is not the
shoes on the other foot. I'm the
boss now. And and she wants to
she loves it. Because it's after
all these years of probable
abuse. And I would guess that
she can now do the abusing and
she
Adam Curry: knows where all the
money is. She's got the keys to
the houses and the islands and
everything.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's an
easy street and keep the jet.
She's definitely the one behind
pushing him. You got to run
again. Joe. Don't let him push
it down. He
Adam Curry: can get a net jets
card. No problem. Speaking of
dogs, the knives are out for
Bobby the opp just to make sure
he doesn't try to slip in
Newsweek reporting. There's a
picture and they show a picture
of RFK Jr. Eating a dog. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he discussed this
on one of the podcasts. He was
always it was a
Adam Curry: cabrito it was a
goat. Yeah, it was a goat and he
wasn't actually eating it was
just holding up the carcass
which is you know, that's the
South American thing
John C Dvorak: pretending to
bite. It's a common thing and
that where he was it wasn't in
Korea and was
Adam Curry: but then the second
thing they have and this is from
Vanity Fair, I think is Vanity
Fair. Vanity
John C Dvorak: Vanity Fair did a
hit piece on him out of the
blue. Oh, really? piece was
well, well, you want to hear or
have a clip. I have a clip.
Well, let me just finish it was
orchestrated, obviously way in
advance two months. These pieces
you can't write overnight? No.
Unknown: A new report from
Vanity Fair is leveling a range
of new allegations about his
conduct. The author of that
article, Joe Hagan joins us now
he's a special correspondent for
Vanity Fair. Joe, good to see
you. Thanks so much for being
here. Tell us about how you know
what you are learning about
this. What you found.
Well, you know, I began this
reporting about two months ago.
And I started to hear, you know,
whispers of this kind of thing
and reached this woman who had
been through a long process of
trying to decide whether she
wanted to come forward, as you
can imagine, requires a lot of
guts to come on the record and,
and talk about things like this
in public against a figure like
Bobby Kennedy has powerful man
from a powerful family. And
today, as you as you just
pointed out, those allegations
came out she was a babysitter
for him and 1999 1998. And he
made some advances on her
unwanted advances on her groped
her. She says she recorded some
of this in her diary that was
concurrent with the times. Now
he's was asked about it point
blank today. And he said he had
no comment on it, and also made
some other comments that, you
know, he's no church boy. And
what he did in his youth, you
know, was he's got skeletons in
his closet. He said, Well, he
was 45 at the time of these
allegations, which sort of post
post youth, as far as I can
tell, but so he has not said
anything about him. He hasn't
expanded on it. He hasn't
rebutted number
Adam Curry: one, Vanity Fair was
kind of like just the lower rent
Vogue. And they had fashion and
you know, some celebrity stuff.
And just the celebrity stuff.
Yeah. And now they're doing hit
pieces, political hit pieces,
shame. Well, that entire
John C Dvorak: operation, which
I think is now owned by
advanced, includes a Teen Vogue,
which is a socialist Oregon.
Teen Vogue has
Adam Curry: Vanity Fair and
Vogue are owned by the same
publisher. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: okay. And Teen
Vogue is, for all practical
purposes, a Marxist operation.
And they have articles in there
trying to encourage teens to
think more positively about
socialism. And I mean, they're,
it's just they're just really
terrible. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, at
least the staying with us. She's
27. And she's she runs in the
circles in Brooklyn, New York.
She knows about our show, of
course. And she sent me she
forwarded me a text message
that's going around on the text
chain. And it's filled with
emojis, but I'll just try and
read the words because every
word is an emoji. Face, like you
just got a ticket, ticket emoji
to the Kamala train. The bar car
is open, the conductor is zand
up as Xanax. And we've just hit
a cow without even slowing down
fav heart and send to 10 friends
where you will fall into a K
hole forever. And none of them
are voting. She says none of her
friends are voting. They don't
care. They have given up. So I
think there's nothing it's all
gone. All gone.
John C Dvorak: It's okay. Whole.
Adam Curry: Oh, when you take
too much ketamine,
recreationally. And then you
know this.
John C Dvorak: So that note was
laced with drug reference. Yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Well,
that's the general feeling is
like, we're not we're not we're
not playing we're not playing in
this we don't care calm was
gonna be president, whatever.
We'll just continue our blue
collar jobs. That's the message.
John C Dvorak: Let's sound like
they wanted support for Kamala
to me.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But they're
all laughing about it. They're
all there. They think it's
hilarious. I know that, yes.
This, the idea is they're all
being pander to to support
Kamala Harris. And they're all
like, know
John C Dvorak: where they're
gonna have it. You know, this is
interesting, because you have
two schools of thought of people
looking at this Biden quitting.
And there's a lot of adamant,
no, he's going to be on the
ticket, guys who are being
pushed out and I think by the
Council on Foreign Relations,
Stooges. And I think and then
the other group is that there's
going to be replacing it and
there's some people that take
that even Gavin Newsom giggity,
which is politically incorrect
is not going to happen. You
can't move a black, no, whatever
you want to call her advertising
out and put some white, slick,
slick guy in instead of her. I
mean, you could almost just swap
out the heads and leave Campbell
as vice president, but that
that's not gonna fly off the
handle is not going to put up
with
Adam Curry: the only strategy
that is left assuming that
Kamala becomes the president and
then runs for reelection as
president is to make her as
viable as possible through
Hollywood and, you know, smoke
and mirrors and then cheat their
ass off and then say, well, we
always knew she could do it, you
know, that. I think that's
that's
John C Dvorak: got to be the
strategy. There's no other
strategy than than what you just
said. exactly just there is no
other strategy then Tony baloney
it up with her and you write us
Hollywood people do some great
at some of those ads where you
get this celebrity after
celebrity and make her seem
smarter than she is. And then
cheat. Yes. And then claim that
Dahlia was all you know, she's
she's great. And then she's
another puppet there who I don't
know.
Adam Curry: So today is election
day in the United Kingdom, which
is a couple of clips which is
hilarious seeing as you know,
it's the day we worked their
butts.
John C Dvorak: What was the
point of during the election the
fourth of all it's
Adam Curry: a snap election.
Well, I want to hear I have only
one clip. So I'd like to hear
your clips first what you got.
John C Dvorak: And I want to do
have a couple of rounded clips.
Round up. Yeah, you kick
elections clip up good.
bookmakers
Unknown: say Keir Starmer is a
center left opposition Labour
Party is set to win a record
majority in today's general
election in the UK,
Britain's Conservative Party all
but conceded defeat to labour
yesterday a day before polling
stations even opened and warned
that the opposition party was on
a course for record breaking
victory.
Facing predictions of the worst
results in the party's history.
The Conservatives turned their
focus to damage litigation. They
said they needed to hang on to
enough seeds to provide an
effective opposition to a Labour
Government
John C Dvorak: damage litigation
that that was a good term They
already gave up. Yeah, yesterday
the Conservatives Tories came
out say well we okay were they
conceded before the election
before one vote was cast. So
there were that's how bad it
looked? Well,
Adam Curry: there was a very
interesting deconstruction on
the Lotus Eaters podcast and I
have a minute of that which I
think was it it kind of pulls
back an event that happened in
the last couple of months that
we didn't really discuss and
kind of didn't know what was
going on but I liked the
analysis and
Unknown: when I say if I could
add to that which is a little
bit conspiratorial because
there's no proper proper
Adam Curry: you know, this is
obviously why I liked it is
conspiratorial, okay, blown
Unknown: evidence for it. But
it's sort of almost
inexplicable, a lot of people
have been saying what it needs
to have it it's like a stroke.
It's almost inexplicable why the
why the Tories are being so bad,
trying to get themselves
reelected. I remember when Obama
came and visited out of the
blue, and we visited Rishi was
he then it Yes, hanging around
it stills like and again,
there's no proper evidence for
this, but it just feels like he
sort of had a message from the
party of Davos from the from the
web, if overlords whoever is
saying it's time to call an
election and throw it. We want
Star Marine now we see a window
of opportunity where Starmer our
other puppet, our backup puppet,
can get a massive majority. And
that's better for us now. So
pull an election and throw it up
policy stays in power forever
now, which is why it's so
imperative to vote reform,
frankly. So yeah, we've got to
we've got to make sure that
Faraj can get some nights for pm
this time round. Exactly. Make
it happen.
Adam Curry: very plausible. Now
remember how weird that was that
Obama all suddenly went into 10
Downing Street? Just a couple
months ago.
John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting idea. There is some
thought that Faraj was, created
this Reform Party to help
destroy the Tories, which he has
some hard on about. Well, yeah,
and and so he did, and he's
always he keeps trying to become
an MP. He's been trying to do
that for I think 17 years. He's
never made it. And whether it
gets in this time or now it's
another issue and he'd be funny
if he
Adam Curry: was it would be
great. It'd be good for the show
he great but for everybody,
John C Dvorak: but he always
kind of backs off at the end and
there's some there's a squirrel
is a number of scurrilous,
substack columns about him being
gay, and, and being blackmailed.
Yeah, you were all over that.
Well, I was my contact in
England, Andrew, Alaska is a
fellow writer, he's one that
turned me on to this what's
going on? Because it turns out
that Brage kind of creates a
problem and then all of a sudden
out of the blue just backs off
and disappears. And maybe he's
just
Adam Curry: maybe just makes his
money by making problems you
need to create a problem and
their problem. Like that problem
can be a problem, but
John C Dvorak: this is going to
be a laughable situation.
Because labor just to summarize
it. depositories ruin the
country. They didn't do anything
they did public services are
down the tubes and this last
year, which is what our lawsuit
was, I was talking to him on the
phone. He thought it was kind of
baffling is that because of
Brexit the idea of Brexit was to
keep immigration to out and this
last 12 months immigration is
the highest in England ever. You
Adam Curry: know I one of our
friends is in place in the UK
and she was texting Tina, you
say you know I was on Oxford
Street and it's nothing other
than Muslims women in jobs jobs
and and more she said it doesn't
look like London at all anymore
and London was kind of a melting
pot but now it's just she said
it's it's it's I kisses I would
hate to see that happen to any
city anywhere. It's just not
London anymore it's the whole
street pictures just completely
changed. Now some Amsterdam has
some of that Rotterdam have some
of that but not like that. We
got a boots on the ground from
our Brahmin in the UK sir abs.
says hi guys want to give you a
boots on the ground report the
UK general elections. I'm a
brown Hindu guy John, I'm a
Brahmin. He says a silent revolt
is occurring. I'm getting
WhatsApp messages after WhatsApp
messages from black brown and
white people urging each other
to vote for Faraj his Reform
Party. I was not going to vote
for anyone at all. But I've been
convinced on voting reform this
Thursday. And so as my whole
family, everyone thinks Labour
will get the majority we'll wait
and see. He says
John C Dvorak: I saw that note.
And then then I after that is
when I talked to our Loski who
says he says the Faraj thing was
a psyop. And then I thought back
on that note and said, Well,
this was sounds like a psyop
note to me to feed our podcast
with the dubious information
that for reform parties is going
to get a few so you're saying
Adam Curry: that a night of the
no agenda round table is trying
to sigh up us?
John C Dvorak: You think that's
impossible?
Adam Curry: I think it's a high
insult. Not
John C Dvorak: insulting anybody
just saying it just seemed a
little suspicious. At the time.
I'm not convinced that this this
whole thing anyway to continue
with the analysis of the Tories,
having wrecked the country and
allowing the immigrant
immigration to completely take
over and then public services to
go down the tubes and the health
service to drop dead. The Labour
Party is ran on the on the
conditions they say they're not
going to change anything.
They're not going to improve
anything so so most analysts if
you watch the Deutsche valet and
press 24 when they bring the
Brits on, they say that's going
to just get worse.
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
from our producer Craig and he
and his son were in London in
March he said there was a
specific stop on the tube
between Heathrow and downtown
where every sign was both in
English and Arabic. It's crazy.
It's crazy. It's crazy. So then
we have France where the where
of course the far right the far
right the far right move. Oh,
the fascist. Oh no, they're in
they want oh no round one.
Tonight's
Unknown: headlines across Europe
declaring President McCrone
humiliated by a charismatic 28
year old with an impoverished
childhood and no university
degree. Jordan bardell is far
right for a fascist, anti
immigration party winning third
light
Adam Curry: that read former
fascist, anti immigration party
Unknown: degree. Jordan bardell
is far right. Former fascist
anti immigration party winning
33% of the votes. How
Adam Curry: do you how do you
how can you be fascist? And then
like, you know, I'm gonna give
that up. I don't want to be a
fascist anymore. Let's just be
former fascists. This is this is
interesting.
John C Dvorak: When they say
fascist, does it mean he was a
member of the Italian Fascist
Party? The group that that
formed in the in the late 20s or
in the mid 20s. It's just in
Italy with an actual political
party. Yes, that was back
Adam Curry: when vaccines
actually meant injecting a dead
virus. You know, words change
get with it's far
Unknown: right. Former fascist
anti immigration party winning
33% of the vote. That's cool. We
need a change. This supporter
says it's not the front I knew
says this woman reacting to the
results at a polling station in
Dijon. Three hours from the
Capitol, we found huge numbers
voting battling for the soul of
a deeply divided country. Two
people outside of Paris feel
forgotten by the government yet.
Emmanuel Macron is a Parisian
into the world. He lives in an
ivory tower says this rival
candidate disconnected from
reality. Tonight France winning
a major soccer match in Germany,
but their superstar Captain his
father in immigrants warning
extremists are out the door.
Fans that the European
tournament last week telling us
inflation and the Immigration
are to blame for this
unprecedented postwar, right
wing lurch. I can understand why
people are angry. Do you think
people are forgetting their
history? Oh yeah, they should
have are kind of spinning it in
a way that suits them. The
French far right has been
negative on the European Union
and positive towards Putin.
Europe's future rests on the
second vote next Sunday.
Adam Curry: I like the right
wing lurch as we just lurch to
the right everybody because you
know, what
John C Dvorak: is that? What's
that got to do with communist
Russia? So I mean, you the
fascist, you're a super right
winger, that is you know, a
Adam Curry: fascist Russia is
Russia is not communist anymore.
It's
John C Dvorak: like, oh, no,
it's fascist is some somehow
turned fascist? That's
interesting. Now
Adam Curry: to the actual
program work, I
John C Dvorak: wonder. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is no, the news
is dead. People just need to
listen to podcasts because the
news is not serving you. It's no
good. So now let's look at what
these guys are actually doing
when it comes to the coveted
climate change. Oh, no.
Unknown: Well, the party's
manifesto does not mention
climate change or net zero
targets. It does mention the
environment but through the
angle of environmental norms,
which they are you penalize
environment, economic growth,
and you find the same language
of war, so called punitive norms
that they have used in the past
and the National rally, they
pledged and I quote to defend
the quality of life of French
people by rejecting all punitive
ecology. Now, those what you see
there on the screen are some key
energy related proposals that
the National rally has put
forward. Some of them
environmentalists fear could
weaken Frances climate
ambitions, at least two of them
the first one being to lower VAT
on all energy products from 20%
to 5.5%. So that includes fuel
energy, electricity, gas and
heating oil, which in a way
could be used to as a tool to
promote fossil fuels. They also
plan to invest in hydrogen,
geothermal energy and also
nuclear reactors. Now, when it
comes to hydrogen and
geothermal, those are two things
are are currently in
development. But there is, I
mean, nothing shows they could
be deployed on a large scale in
France at the moment, and
nuclear reactors, before they
actually built nuclear reactors
is going to take years before we
have them. And they also more
More importantly, they also plan
to end subsidies for wind power
projects, and even Council
projects. Bearing in mind that
solar and wind power, they make
up 15% of France's a power
generation and they also help
avoid 22 million tons of carbon
dioxide every single year. These
Adam Curry: guys are on the
right track, shut down the
stupid windmills and the solar
and get some nuke in there and
pander a little bit to the
hydrogen crowd, whatever. And
lower the taxes 22% to 5%. Yeah,
that will make France prosper.
It's obvious. Now the world is
upside down. Everyone's gone
crazy. Crazy.
John C Dvorak: It's nuts
noticeably. Have a couple of
tick tock Well, clips I want to
get out of here.
Adam Curry: Oh good. I'm so
happy. We just
John C Dvorak: had our pride
event in San Francisco, which
became very scandalous. Oh
Adam Curry: man, the world
round. They were showing
pictures like people took their
children to see this.
John C Dvorak: So let's play
this is a tick tock or bitching.
And this is a tick talking about
SF Brian she's I believe she's a
reporter or somebody that covers
the event and here she is. She's
not happy.
Adam Curry: Is this the pride or
the pride rant?
John C Dvorak: I think so about
the same. Oh, okay. Go with
pride rant. I don't know why the
oh, that's Oh, that's Oh, that's
interesting. Okay, yeah, pride
rant.
Unknown: Okay, I feel physically
ill after spending the day at
San Francisco pride. Now I've
been to quite a few pride
events. But this one was by far
the most disturbing and it was
because they were nudist there
that were fully erect in front
of children standing in a way to
make sure that everybody saw
their their fully exposed
penises. There were adults
grabbing other people's genitals
and other adults masturbating.
There was a fetish zone in which
people were peeing on each
other. I'm just, I'm shocked and
horrified after experiencing
this. And keep in mind that this
is an all ages event. There were
children present. The fetish
zone was an 18 plus area, but
there were no ID being checked.
And again, there were adults,
essentially having sex in
public. I am shocked I've never
experienced such a vote. For
display of promiscuity I mean I
don't even know what to say in
terms of this. I'm shocked and
horrified and I don't think I'm
ever going to cover pride ever
again after after what I
witnessed today it was the worst
of the worst was bad.
Adam Curry: I agree it's it was
shameful that what I saw was
just like what are you? I
thought some of it was maybe
kind of amplified by some No,
John C Dvorak: it was pretty. It
was covered locally, and
everyone's kind of like didn't
know what to make of it.
Adam Curry: But they're all too
afraid to go stand up and say
hey, stop this idiocy aren't
they? Everyone's afraid of being
canceled they have their
John C Dvorak: the cops are
walking by their wish I don't
have this clip. But I'll tell
you what happened as woman two
lesbian police officers are
walking down the thing is this
is this legal? And this well,
you know, under shirt it's all
depends on the circumstance. And
they were making all these
excuses for these guys walking
around that hard on in front of
a bunch of kids and then and did
the little just one little zone
of fetish zone they called it
where they just again have in
this rubberized swimming pools,
you know the little? Yeah,
you're in there. That guy's on
his on his stomach or on his
back. And there's a bunch of
guys peeing, wait a minute,
Adam Curry: wait a minute,
that's a clear violation, you're
not supposed to urinate in the
pool. Clear violation. And so
there was some more Francisco is
what it is. Saddam was a morose
John C Dvorak: and in the end,
like somebody pointed out, you
know, the gay community has gone
all the way to push and push gay
marriage and all the rest of it,
and always had this friends
today. Just gonna want more.
Unknown: That's, that's not the
gay community.
John C Dvorak: That is no it's
not. It's a fetish weirdo
community that that,
unfortunately, is not being held
to check and held to account to
account. That's exactly right.
And the police aren't doing it.
It's almost like they're doing
it on purpose. And allowing it
on purpose and the police are
turning a blind eye to it, the
whole thing seems like a setup
Adam Curry: unit over there, you
should you should lead that.
John C Dvorak: I don't care.
It's good for the show. And so
it's like a setup to make sure
that Trump gets elected. I'm
just, there's something fishy
about the whole thing.
Adam Curry: And he makes a
twist. Okay. All right. Go.
We're a broken country. Mr.
President, come save us. It's, I
mean, I'm actually kind of
speechless about what they were
doing. I come from Amsterdam. No
way. No way. This is insane. In
front of children. And
John C Dvorak: of course, this
is the San Francisco government
that allowed this but I think
they just naively allowed it.
Standing to Mecca. And I say
this
Adam Curry: once every couple of
months get out.
John C Dvorak: Why not? Dare I
mean, dude, East Bay, I'm not
anywhere near there. They didn't
have a grading rate here. It's
spreading. It's not spreads.
It's not spreading to
Adam Curry: New York Times
readers across the street.
They're gonna start walking
around New York Times readers
John C Dvorak: all over. That's
what I'm saying. And the thing
is, is you can map them because
you could because they have the
New York Times is always wrapped
in a blue class. Last thing,
yeah. So if you drive down the
street delivery, you can see you
can see all the all their stages
that read The New York Times
almost exclusively already read
the local paper, they just read
the New York Times.
Adam Curry: So sad. You do want
open borders and you want to do
more tick tock clips. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: got some good.
Yeah. These are not about the
gay thing. But
Unknown: tock, tick tock.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's get
these out of the way. Yeah. This
is a racist one. I didn't know
any of this. But for race. Did
you know that good when you say
good morning, that's racist.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Because I've seen
this one. The
Unknown: reason why I don't use
a term that morning. Did you
know back in slavery days after
the Masters had beaten us, taken
our children, writes us, hung us
burned us, and then left us in a
dark shed overnight. They would
literally open up the door, and
they would greet us by saying
Did you have a good morning?
Meaning? Did you cry all night
over the things that we've done
to your loved ones? So this is
the reason why I took Good
morning out of my vocabulary,
because truly if you think about
it, there is absolutely nothing
good about mourning. I che che
che
Adam Curry: che What is that?
John C Dvorak: What is it? This
is classic Roseanne Roseanna
Danna kind of thing where I
questioned the validity of that.
I will I will give you that. I
think it could have been a
staged stage. Here's here's one,
I'm pretty sure is also semi
staged, but it's not. But it's
funny. This is the followers
clip. This was on Dr. Phil ended
up on Tik Tok.
Unknown: I mean, I don't talk to
my family. They're irrelevant.
They're irrelevant. None of them
have followers. If they got
followers or got rich, I'd
probably talk to them again.
Did you just say I don't talk to
my family because they don't
have followers. If that
followers
they'd be here right now.
You joke about your mother.
I mean, my mom has more
followers than my sister. It's
your mother. What do you what do
you what do you care if she has
followers? If your mother
can anyone tell me like what I
would talk to my mom about if
she's not going to be making me
relevant?
Yeah, like hi, mom. Nine
have a career and I'm famous.
Like, that's what happens when
you get famous. You've cut
people off.
Seriously, Everyone's
upset with it. Maybe because you
guys aren't relevant either. So
you don't understand.
Adam Curry: Yeah, see this is
this is what Dr. Phil does
wrong. Then the whole what was
his what's his new media company
up there? They started in
Dallas. Something St. God not
JobStreet media. And you know
and so he'll do like series
he'll sit down with President
Trump will do a serious
interview and then he brings
this this dip dip crap on like,
come on. This is insulting and
it and it just brings down all
alternative media and he's, he's
he's just polluting the waters.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, I'm not gonna
argue. The last one here is the
podcast rant. Oh boy can't
Unknown: be the only person who
thinks it's insane that we're
already collectively forgetting
where the word podcast comes
from. I mean, since the iPod has
become obsolete, there's no
reason for people in the future
to piece together that the word
came from iPod plus broadcasts.
But the even crazier thing about
podcast outliving its conceptual
Origins is that the exact same
thing already happened with the
word broadcast which used to
refer to an agricultural
technique of widely dispersing
seeds on the ground, then that
got abstracted as a metaphor for
widely dispersed information to
the public. And then about 100
years later, that got turned
into the word podcast. And this
keeps getting crazier the more
you think about it, because
what's the word pod? The iPod
was named in reference to a
scene from the movie 2001 Space
Odyssey where the main character
says Open the pod bay doors how
and the pod bay doors in
question were named because of
their visual similarity to
biological plant pods which are
just vessels for carrying seeds.
So somehow podcast traces back
to a word for something that
carries seeds and a word for
dispersing seeds. All
Adam Curry: right, I'm going to
turn off your access to tick
tock you're not you're no longer
allowed to watch
John C Dvorak: the clip that
specifically for you for your
files, your podcasting files
banks, so you can have it in the
collection refer to it if
necessary,
Adam Curry: in case I need to
remember where the where the
term podcast came from. Yeah,
because
John C Dvorak: we're gonna soon
forget Yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, you put
me into and you've you've put me
in irons here I have a brain
freeze. Now I don't I can't do
anything after that. There's
nowhere to
John C Dvorak: go to guys and do
do a quick Gaza thing. Well,
actually,
Adam Curry: I do have Gaza. You
have Gaza too. You want to?
Well, let me start with my safe
zone clips from Gaza. Here we
Unknown: go. and Israeli
airstrike killed 12 Palestinians
in our mercy on Tuesday, despite
the fact that it has been
designated as a safe zone by
Israel.
These Palestinians have been
fleeing from the east and part
of cleanliness in droves
continuing overnight, they've
described there's been an
intense bombardment around con
unis. Some of the heaviest
fighting in that bid second
biggest city in the Gaza Strip.
Since Israeli troops withdrew
there. In early April. There's
one hospital source that said
shelling killed at least eight
people. And people have been
really heading west, some to
other parts of cleanliness, and
many more to this area, which
the Israeli military has
declared a safe zone along the
coast, the ALMA wasI area, it's
about 14 kilometers long, but of
course, people are struggling to
find space there. The reason
that Hearne units have become so
crowded after it was largely
left in ruins following that
monthslong Israeli military
offensive there against what the
what the Israeli military said
was a stronghold of Hamas
earlier in the war.
Adam Curry: This is starting to
bummed me out, man. This is
their stop. And this is just the
military industrial complex and
malicious to more let's keep
more war going on. Keep it in
the news, BBC. Good job,
everybody. I'm sure you have
some clips
John C Dvorak: Well, I have NTD
because BBC is terrible NTDs.
Just amateurish, but they got
better analysis. This is just an
they brought an analyst on to
talk about some of the gods and
stuff. And I think it's at least
giving us some insight. Although
I, you know, I don't even
believe that last one you
played. I don't even believe any
of this. These reports out of
Gaza, we can't trust any of it.
On either side. It's all
propaganda.
Unknown: Earlier we spoke with
David warms our Middle East
affairs analysts at the Center
for Security Policy about where
things currently stand in the
Israel Hamas war. David
Warmsley, thank you so much for
joining us. Great to have you
back on the show. Now, the IDF
says that over 1000 terrorists
have been killed in raw these
are ones that they know, this
doesn't include ones that are
buried in the rubble. Given that
where do things currently stand
in terms of the Israel Hamas
war?
Yeah, good question. I think I
think that Israel has
essentially now destroyed the
functional military structure of
Hamas. Namely, they can't really
operate as significant units
against Israel. But what they
can do is the break down into
little squats that suddenly show
up, they can do terrorist
attacks, they may still be able
to launch missiles, here and
there, very few, but some mostly
short range, because they're
smaller, they may have a very,
very limited ability to continue
to produce a few missiles here
and there. So the Israelis, I
think, have more or less shut
down this as a problem from
October 7 levels. What they
still face though, is they need
to keep Gaza quite restricted,
which means they need to keep
the border area between Egypt
and Gaza under their control. So
that noose, because this is an
organization and it still has
enough territory, and enough
people who would join it, that
it can reconstitute its force
very rapidly within a few months
or a year. And the know how is
there so the Israelis really
have to constrict what goes in
and controls very carefully,
that it can't be used to build
weapons, build new tunnels, and
they have to maintain security
control over the area, which
means they have to be able to go
anywhere in that territory at
any time to arrest somebody to,
to take down a tunnel that
starting to be built missile
factory that comes so it's now
small insurgency warfare that
Israel faces,
Adam Curry: I think the story
that's built around it, whether
it's the BBCs version, or NTDs
version, it's kind of
irrelevant. The idea is
annihilate everything. Egypt may
even want to open the gate, but
now that Israel has had nine,
that's under our control, we're
not gonna have anybody out.
There just going to flatten it
and everybody in it because
there's no way if you have three
insurgents, you got more
tunnels, they're gonna light up
more, more, more, more stuff.
That's it. It's a never ending
situation. It's athletic. It's
really It's sad. It's just like
this.
John C Dvorak: You got to pee.
This is the Hatfields and the
McCoys. They hate each other as
it can Ishmael.
Adam Curry: I mean, it goes back
John C Dvorak: a long way and
keeps going back. It's been
around since I was a kid. I
remember this. Yes. Isaac goes
by old days. Yes. When I was a
kid during Ishmael zero. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's so it's almost
ludicrous to cover it. But let's
play part two of these.
Unknown: On that note, Israel's
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu has indicated
privately that he could accept
involvement by the Palestinian
Authority in a postwar Gaza.
Now, this is according to a
report. Given that what are the
likely next steps for Israel
here?
I think it'd be very difficult
for them to really accept a
Palestinian Authority for a
couple of reasons. One is they
see the Palestinian Authority
becoming increasingly hostile.
The they never really had peace
with the Palestinian Authority,
which is mostly now in the West
Bank and Gaza and Judea and
Samaria. So the Israelis, I
don't think trust that not to
produce another threatening
force that arises in Gaza. So I
don't think they can really let
them in on that level. The
second thing is I don't think
they really want to reward Hamas
for doing this war by
essentially creating a new
Palestinian government. But most
importantly, I think the
Israelis feel they need to
maintain security control over
the territory. So I don't
believe that really the
Palestinian authorities in the
courts, the Israelis much would
prefer to work with local powers
in the area families, clans,
tribes, more traditional
structures and create a very
bottom lock governing structure
that eventually has more and
more power, but at the beginning
is really under their direct
occupation.
Adam Curry: You know, when when
the October 7 happened, which of
course is has the moniker
October 7 to make it sound like
September 11. They were right.
It was a false flag, the
Netanyahu and whoever else was
involved the military industrial
complex that the defense
industrial base, let it happen.
They knew that something could
happen. They knew they were
teaming up. They wanted this.
They want you know, Jared
Kushner wants is his condos, his
ocean view, villas, the golf
course everything. This was a
setup they wanted they want and
they want war in the Middle
East. They want war war war they
want that's why AIPAC is funded
by the defense contractors that
just want war, more money with
war. And now let's go to
Hezbollah, please. Because
that's those guys are different
caliber. Then then Hamas
Unknown: tonight, Israel
assassinating one of the highest
ranking Hezbollah commanders in
Lebanon inching Israel and the
powerful Iranian backed militia.
Even closer to an all out war.
Mohammed Nima Nasser was killed
in an apparent drone strike in
southern Lebanon and Hezbollah
launching over 100 rockets at
Israel. In response. It comes as
Hezbollah and Israeli officials
have traded threats of
annihilation in recent weeks.
But Israel and US sources
telling ABC News both Hezbollah
and Israel have essentially
agreed to broad parameters of a
US brokered deal that would
stave off a war Volker
agreement, Hizbollah said it
cannot sign until there is a
ceasefire in Gaza. But in Gaza,
no signs of a truce. Israel is
in its sixth day of a raid in
the north, the fighting visible
from nearby Israeli villages. We
can hear the small arms fire now
taking place in Sharjah here
there is a battle going on in
there in the southern part of
the Gaza Strip. The IDF ordering
mass evacuations in the eastern
part of HUD units, an estimated
250,000 Gazans impacted women
and children seem piled into
carts, many sleeping in the
streets and law breaking down
from the fear and uncertainty
saying I don't think it will
remain safe. We have been
displaced multiple times with
the ceasefire talks are creaking
ahead. One of the main sticking
points as we understand it is
that Hamas wants a full
withdrawal of Israeli troops.
But Israeli official telling me
today that they intend to hold
parts of the Gaza Strip for
months.
Adam Curry: Just keep it going
was good. Send more stuff over
there.
John C Dvorak: Here's the NTD
version of the Hezbollah report.
Unknown: In Lebanon, an Israeli
strike killed a senior Hezbollah
commander on Wednesday morning.
Israel's defense minister says
this about the escalating
tensions in Lebanon, Hezbollah,
we are striking Hezbollah very
hard every day, and we will also
reach a state of full readiness.
We prefer an arrangement but if
reality forces us we will know
how to fight and
in the West Bank for Gazans have
been laid to rest after they
were killed in an Israeli strike
on Tuesday. The Israeli army
says the strike hit terrorists
hiding in the area. Also in the
West Bank, a settlement tracking
group on Wednesday said that
Israel approved the largest
seizure of land in over three
decades, almost five square
miles that's bigger than 2000
football fields combined.
Adam Curry: So once we have once
we have Lebanon, which is of
course Hezbollah, then we only
have a couple more on the west
Clarke seven. Sudan was always
on the list. And there's news
from Sudan. Here's my Africa
clip.
Unknown: Now to the continuing
conflict in Sudan. The UN says
humanitarian agencies there have
faced looting on an industrial
scale since the Civil War
between the army and the
paramilitary group, the rapid
support forces erupted more than
a year ago. The UN also says
Starvation is being used as a
weapon of war in Sudan. It's
been warning of an imminent
famine, with 25 million people
urgently needing humanitarian
assistance. A senior UN official
told the BBC that hundreds of
millions of dollars worth of aid
had been lost
Adam Curry: person same script
as Gaza, whatever happened to
them dying of hunger in Gaza
that left the scene. Remember
that? Damnit, their famine?
Yeah, they were starving to
death. That's gone. And then
Iran. We don't really know much
about the new the new puppy
really
John C Dvorak: right curiously,
that is gone. But also as the
peers gone. That thing's totally
gone. And appear was to keep the
famine from happening
supposedly,
Adam Curry: before famines over
it's all it's all good.
John C Dvorak: How does that
work?
Adam Curry: So Iran? We got a
new puppet incoming and there's
a run off so we'll see. We don't
know much about the about the
new guy. We'll find out. This is
Reuters telling me they're not
using AI voices in this short
clip
Unknown: to Iran, where after an
election campaign dominated by
hardliners moderate presidential
hopeful sued possession has made
it into a runoff. The 69 year
old was up against candidates
who more closely reflects the
fiercely anti Western stance of
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali
homenaje. Possession Qian
narrowly be hardliner Saeed
Jalili for first place, and they
now go to a runoff this Friday.
I think
Adam Curry: that's AI.
John C Dvorak: Well, the
pronunciation of Hamid
Adam Curry: was good was good.
It was awfully good
John C Dvorak: for AI flagging
monotone style, that sounds very
much like AI, she should
probably find some other work.
Then
Adam Curry: we have the final
Theater, which is Ukraine, of
course that continues. Dead
bodies everywhere, which we
never see. Don't show that on
the news. Can't do that. Putin
made a statement about the
possibility of a Trump becoming
president again. You know, the
Unknown: fact that got Mr. Trump
as a presidential candidate,
says that he is ready and wants
to stop. So you're in Ukraine,
we take that very seriously. No,
I haven't seen his ideas on how
exactly he's going to do that.
And that is the strong key
questions. But I have no doubt
that he says that sincerely. And
we support that. Yeah, Putin is
open.
John C Dvorak: He's open that
was read by the mainstream media
as Putin endorses Trump.
Adam Curry: Really? No, no, I
didn't get that one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, somehow now
that that means Putin is
endorsing trump the Russians
those damn Russia makes
Adam Curry: nothing but sense.
And with that happy news, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea and
Biden in a coma say hello to my
friend on the other end D one
the only Mr. Johnson There we
go.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, in the
morning, you Mr. Adam curry.
Also in the morning all ships
and sea boots on the ground,
feet in the air, in the water
and all the days and nights out
there in
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls and the troll. Yeah, it's
not surprising that we're a
little bit lower. It is, of
course, Fourth of July weekend.
Happy birthday, America. Still,
unbelievably, we have 1655,
trolls and the troll room. I
see. Well, we have we have on
the last reasonable for
Thursday. Last Thursday, we had
1657. So we're only two down.
Wow. That's pretty good. Think
about it. I'm glad. I'm glad to
see y'all here celebrating with
us trolls. Thank you. And thank
you to Darren O'Neill for doing
the doing the pre stream that
was quite nice that he got
everybody ready for the big
show. This is our value for
value proposition. Now you can
listen to it like the trolls are
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using that as my daily driver
for a while I really like it.
And you'll get note. So somebody
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have like the Apple podcast app,
and then somebody whose pod
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the modern podcast apps notify
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and two to three hours before
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could they could join in by the
way. They're just too arrogant.
Like we're apple. We can't be a
part of your system. You
John C Dvorak: know, it's not
invented here. syndrome NIMBY.
Adam Curry: Exactly.
John C Dvorak: No, that's not in
my backyard. Yeah, well, same
thing. It's not in their
backyard. Yeah, well, we
Adam Curry: are in their
backyard. We're breathing down
their neck podcast apps.com. We
also know the New York Times is
now a new strategy for their
podcast new strategy. We're
going to keep the ads but we're
now also going to put it behind
a paywall you're
John C Dvorak: gonna drop the
podcast
Adam Curry: it's just gonna be
ads No, they've they're now
putting cereal and check it out
the daily the daily as their
daily news podcast Esther be
hit. They're gonna put it behind
the paywall. Oh, that's dumb.
Yes, it's the stupid they don't
realize they don't get it.
They're just like Howard Stern
and I would say to agree Joe
Rogan when he went behind the
Spotify paywall If you do lose
some relevance, Howard Stern
really lost relevance all
together. I think Joe was, you
know, as good and
John C Dvorak: lose money.
Adam Curry: But you know, okay,
fine. But that just leaves us
out here to entertain the plebs.
Which is fine by me, we just
pick up more because you can't
have 20 subscriptions to all
your favorite podcasts that just
not going to work. The expensive
people can't even buy fireworks
this year, to just light off
willy nilly. So they're not
going to do that. I think it's I
think it's a fundamental
mistake, they should use that as
a loss leader to draw people in
and give them special deals on
Wordle. Now, it's not like
people subscribe for the news.
John C Dvorak: You're dead,
right? If you are producing it,
which you're not no, that's
exactly what you'd do. You would
you would have it as it's not
even a loss leader. You can run
ads in it. They do. They can
make money. Kinda they have an
advertising department that
sells ads at the newspaper. You
can bundle it with the podcast
ad. Yeah, so this so that
wouldn't even be a loss leader.
Yeah, so the idea of putting it
behind a paywall is idiotic.
What's the point?
Adam Curry: And they're gonna
keep running the ads behind the
paywall? Can you believe so?
There
John C Dvorak: you go. So, so
now you're gonna get less
listenership? So the ads are
less effective and the
advertisers are going to say
what you don't know I'm not know
Adam Curry: and think about the
meetings they're going to have
to have with the advertisers.
Will
Unknown: you're not quite
getting the reach you used to
when you were bow before when
behind the paywall.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but these are
qualified New York Times
listeners, or the ones that
urinate on each other in San
Francisco in the pool. Yeah,
they're buyers. They got money.
They got lots of money. They got
money to piss away, I tell you,
Oh, yeah, no, I did it. I did
it. Instead, we we hate
meetings. We don't meet with
each other. This is new. There
was a big article about value
for value, which is quite nice.
Yeah, where's this? It was when
I see. It was nice. As one thing
I didn't like about this
article. Let me see if I can
find it real quick for you. Who
wrote this thing?
John C Dvorak: Did they call you
and get some bad get a comment?
No.
Adam Curry: No, they called
other people course. Call me
descript? Well, descript as it
is actually. It's a very
successful editing program. And
descript they use AI, you know?
And they had this whole article,
what is value for value? Podcast
monetization? And should you do
it? And so you know, the who
wrote this article, this was
written by Courtney Kocak. She's
pretty successful, successful
podcaster. And it talks about
time, talent and treasure, your
value for value as listeners to
reciprocate the value they
received from podcast with time,
talent or treasure. Time.
John C Dvorak: They even use our
day use our catchphrases, so she
obviously gave us a big plug in
that thing didn't she didn't
like in the write up? She
Adam Curry: did. She did. Okay.
crediting Adam curry. Um, I
can't that didn't say Jhansi
Dvorak podcast, good podcast
things inventors. He
John C Dvorak: has some crush on
you with pioneering
Adam Curry: value for value
through his show his his show.
John C Dvorak: I'm not even in
the picture anymore.
Adam Curry: The show has thrived
on direct audience support for
over 15 years. It's almost 17
Without any advertising. So
curry is a big proponent and
success story for the audience
support. So what was this
woman's name? Courtney, Courtney
Kocak. But Courtney colpack co
CACs. Kaos Kocak Co. Ca K. But
here's the part that I didn't
like see, I'm going down here.
No, I must have skipped over it.
The Origins Yeah, okay. Okay.
But, but Adam curry isn't the
sole mastermind behind value for
value. This is obviously where
they should have brought in John
C. Dvorak. Nope. Many people
believe founding wire editor
Kevin Kelly's seminal blog post
1000 true fans was the catalyst
for value for value. What I'm
gonna go look at this blog post.
When was this posted? This blog
post was was posted in 2008. So
it was around the same time.
Although we were earlier With
our value for you probably
lifted it from us I know I think
I didn't like that I didn't like
that was like
John C Dvorak: Kelly was Kelly
is named Courtney Courtney Coke,
Coca Cola. You'll see, like,
let's
Adam Curry: see what she's
about. There's a link here.
Courtney Kocak founder and host
of podcast. Bestie
John C Dvorak: like, has what?
Adam Curry: Podcast bestie you
know, like she's my bestie John,
John C Dvorak: you're my
podcast. Bestie Yes.
Adam Curry: Los Angeles based
writer podcaster and comedian.
John C Dvorak: So the comedian
with a podcast. She does
Adam Curry: do her podcast value
for value
John C Dvorak: though. I'll give
her that. Really good. Good for
her.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she's she's
your John. She's your podcast.
John C Dvorak: Bestie you're
underwhelmed a hater.
Adam Curry: You don't actually
hate anybody? I
John C Dvorak: do. I hate her. I
mean, she's a phony. That's the
right way I see it. Well, I
Adam Curry: think it's
despicable. Because if anyone
had spoken to me, I would, of
course, said We and our we, we
pioneered created and develop
the name, certainly the name.
The idea, the idea also, and we
have a whole genesis for it. It
was an accidental discovery,
almost like dynamite or
nitroglycerin. And I would have
said our podcast, I never I
never would let that dangle out
there. That's just rude. Which
also means she probably has
never listened. I'm guessing
John C Dvorak: she's never
listened to the podcast. And
she's just, I don't know where
she got the idea that it's a
solo. She makes it sound like a
solo podcast. Yeah, it's not.
Sometimes it is. But just
generally, no,
Adam Curry: it's not right. I
mean, the only thing that it
would she would have made only
worse if she'd added Kara
Swisher into the mix, that would
have made it worse. She didn't
do that luckily. So for those of
you who have read that article,
have tuned in here, let's show
you how it really works. Because
we have actual true value for
values, not Patreon. Patreon is
not value provided that's levels
and subscriptions. Now we leave
it up to people to send us
whatever they think the show was
worth. And however they want to
contribute back value. Show me
one other podcast that has its
its entire infrastructure, all
its websites managed by the
officer didn't put in there. We
don't have listeners. We're not
fans, we have fans. Our fans
don't support the show. We have
producers who create this with
us together. Give us boots on
the ground clips, information
insight. Because everyone is an
expert at something. That's what
makes this podcast the best
podcast in the universe. And we
also have artists and not not
just artists, Dutch masters,
Dutch masters who create art for
us for every single episode
1020 30 pieces sometimes for us
to choose from and select the
absolute creme de la creme, such
as Dame Kenny, Ben's excellent
Biden off the rails train art
for Episode 1673, which we
titled mummy in the dummy. You'd
love the train picture. You
hated the title. You actually
said You owe me one for that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I did do
that. I didn't like the title.
But I relented. And the train
art I did like it was the first
thing I saw on so this is just I
saw it actually. During our
previous segment it did was it
lingered. She got it in early.
Yeah, she did. And yeah, it
does. It says the whole thing.
Train going off the
Adam Curry: rails. It was it was
perfect. What else was there?
There was?
John C Dvorak: No, it wasn't
anything else really?
Adam Curry: Wow, there really
wasn't. It was actually less
than than normal selection.
John C Dvorak: I think the
reason? I'll tell you what I
think. I think the artists look
at the art before they start,
just submit and they saw that
piece.
Adam Curry: Oh, and they went
That's it? I'm done. I'm toast.
I can't be there. Not even not
even going to try it. Yeah, I
think you're right, that does
happen. That does happen.
Definitely. That's
John C Dvorak: what happens when
a good piece comes in early. If
she had put the piece in late,
we would have had a lot more
art.
Adam Curry: And also I'll say
that's not that artists are
wrong. It's not entirely true in
this case, ya
John C Dvorak: know, they're all
there. I think they're wrong
most of the time. That's why
they're artists and not art
directors. And and if you
remember during the era and the
heyday of the no agenda, forums,
not formed.
Adam Curry: Thought you were
gonna say no
John C Dvorak: agenda, no
agenda, whatever social that
yes, yeah. Did that website.
Yes. In the heyday of that, the
artists had this little clique
and they would pre predict what
they thought was going to win
and they were continually wrong.
They were all in there saying I
think your piece is the best
ever. You're complimented bunch
of You know, they're they're
blowing each other and they're
talking about their art and they
were always wrong we always pick
something generally different.
Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate
that they
John C Dvorak: don't have the
taste of an artist necessarily.
They're just artists, artists or
artists,
Adam Curry: all of them all of
them are artists all of them are
appreciated and loved. We we
really do love what you do and
and we even love going like ah
that's a horrible piece but we
love that person. We say that
frequently now. I really love
that person but that artists
just not going to fly
John C Dvorak: yet you do that
with Darren? Yes,
Adam Curry: all the time. And
Darren just wants to hear us
talk about him that's all that's
John C Dvorak: there and put
always puts in a reasonable
piece that could be used so
always use it
Adam Curry: Yeah. He that is
exactly dairies Mr. usable.
If if I had a radio station, you
know back in the day when it
mattered, I would have Darren on
staff because you can say Darren
it's the someone Someone dropped
out of the midnight shift you're
in Darren the morning the
morning zoo guy is out Darren
urine, Darren can do it all. He
really can is amazing
multitalented
John C Dvorak: I agree he's very
is incredibly talented. Yes.
Adam Curry: He's no Dutch
Master, though. That kind of
that's what separates all of
these. These artists that
usually when go to no agenda,
art generator.com. You can see
all of the art, you can even
participate. You can create an
account you can upload you can
play along. And if you're using
a modern podcast app, check out
the chapters look at what Dred
Scott does. He uses a lot of
different pieces from the Art
Generator in the chapter. So
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much Dame Kelly, and we'll see
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know it should have been I did
this in a couple of newsletters.
I think the one from 2017 I
should have done it again. Which
is the fourth of July should
have been the second of July.
Adam Curry: That's correct
celebrations. Yes. Erica
John C Dvorak: Erica. coaching
coaching in Marietta, Georgia,
cool chick maybe coaching this
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comrades. It's that time of the
year where my human resource
Hogan celebrates his birthday.
He'll be eighth on the fourth
fifth. timezone problems when
you're both in China, China,
China, China, China, China. He
loves his uncle John and Adam,
and still thinks everything's a
scam.
Adam Curry: He's gonna go far in
life. No doubt.
John C Dvorak: It's my guess.
All right. Good boy.
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Well, this is this kind of
interesting. Do you remember Do
you remember that? I talked to
my my pals about, about that
need the testing industrial
complex?
John C Dvorak: Health efficient
sufficient are your testing
buddies? Yeah, my
Adam Curry: testing buddies. And
do you remember what you
remember? I was like, Okay,
well, is it bird flu? Is it bird
flu is this is all going to be
bird flu? And they said, No. Do
you remember what they did say?
John C Dvorak: What they did say
what they
Adam Curry: did say what they
did say is that the CDC was
hyping Dengue fever.
John C Dvorak: No. Yes. Right.
And yeah, dengue was was
mentioned. And that's when I
came up with my aspirin
anecdote. Yes.
Adam Curry: Don't take aspirin
if you have dengue fever. Well,
your anecdote is more relevant
than ever. And a new
Unknown: warning from the CDC,
there's been a surge of dengue
fever around the world. And
that's increasing the risk of it
spreading here in the US. Global
cases of the mosquito borne
disease hit record numbers this
year, countries in the Americas
are reporting twice as many
cases then in all of 2023. And
now health officials in Florida,
stop twice
John C Dvorak: as many, twice as
many go from one to do is to
Adam Curry: go from four to
eight. We don't know but what
did it go
John C Dvorak: from? 1000 to
2000. I mean, twice as many as
meaningless urging
Adam Curry: John didn't you hear
the beginning? It's surging,
it's surging. I just love that
that this obvious setup was
known to us two weeks ago. Oh,
no. The CDC is going to come out
with dengue fever. And thank
you, CBS countries
Unknown: in the Americans are
reporting twice as many cases
then in all of 2023. And now
health officials in Florida are
urging the public to take extra
precautions, like wearing bug
spray, and dumping out standing
water.
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
I'll come back to that in a
moment after we talked to Dr.
Celine gounder. Joining me
Unknown: now is the editor at
large for public health at kff.
And CBS News Medical
contributor, Dr. Celine gounder.
Always great seeing you, doctor.
So what do we know about how
Dengue fever is spreading? And
what are some of the potential
risks associated with this
virus?
Dengue fever spreads by mosquito
bites. And part of what we're
seeing now is with climate
change with increasing areas of
hot humid, which are friendly to
mosquitoes where mosquitoes
breed, we're seeing more
transmission of dengue. And so
we've seen a huge outbreak in
Latin America over the last
several months. There are pretty
United States that are also at
risk a ticular, the Gulf Coast,
Florida, Texas, parts of
southern California. What
protects us here in the United
States against dengue is people
generally live in better homes,
better housing, where you have
screened windows, you have air
conditioning, and so you have
less exposure to mosquitoes in
your home. But this is not a
benign illness. People can
develop very high fevers,
headaches, vomiting, shock,
where your blood pressure drops
dramatically. And without
treatment, about 15% of people
who get Dengue can die. So
Adam Curry: very interesting is
blamed on of course, climate
change. We all knew that climate
change will be responsible for
the next pandemic, pandemic. But
I just want to take us because
they mentioned Florida, the Gulf
Coast, Florida, Florida,
Florida, the Gulf Coast,
Florida, southern part of Texas,
Florida, huh. My memory does go
back at least two years 2022.
Since 2021,
Unknown: UK based biotech
company Oxitec has released
millions of genetically modified
male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes in
the Florida Keys.
Adam Curry: Remember that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no one ever
Bill Gates project.
Adam Curry: It sure is. No one
ever questions that nonsense
they did. I thought that that
was supposed to stop mosquitoes
from spreading things like
Dengue fever, as well. That was
the
John C Dvorak: idea, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: That was the idea.
How'd that work out? Bill Gates
has just just subjected the
entire Gulf Coast population to
Dengue fever. Don't take
aspirin. How do you know when
you have dengue and shouldn't
take aspirin? You have to be
tested. Oh, yeah, I love it. We
got Testing, testing. Another
thing you should never do, and
I'd love to hear your input on
this John, you should never eat
the plane on the food, the food
on the plane.
John C Dvorak: You shouldn't eat
to play ever needs to play. Can
Unknown: you confirm that none
of the pilots ate any of this.
It was not a great start to the
holiday for passengers on Delta
flight 136 from Detroit to
Amsterdam. They ended up in New
York early this morning after at
least a dozen people got sick
from eating chicken apparently
contaminated with mold.
Medical personnel should be
standing by delta says it
sincerely apologizes for that
incident dude
Adam Curry: that could have been
made. Could have been me. I
never I never eat chicken on the
plane every gentleman like yeah,
12 people got food poisoning and
they had to go back that's like,
oh, gotta go back. People are
puking all over the place. It's
horrible.
John C Dvorak: That was pretty
fast acting.
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. You
don't think it would act it
would happen that fast? No,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't. You
don't fast acting is not caused
by just as well a mold. I don't
know. I just very fast acting
food poisoning usually takes a
while. I got the only time I
really got sick in the last 2030
years was from a flight back
from Mexico City is eaten fine
in Mexico. And then on the
flight back. I had some I think
spoiled fruit. Oh, no. It was a
mistake. Yeah. Always says you
always have to travel advice. It
could be a tip of the day.
Adam Curry: Oh, they say I know
I know what it is. And it's a
great tip of the day and I think
you should save it. This
John C Dvorak: is a very big
today's tip of the day of the
show and it will be a travel
travelers
Adam Curry: Tip of the Day.
Exactly. Now there was no word
whether this United of this
Delta Flight was a Boeing or not
doesn't matter. We got plenty of
Boeing problems.
Unknown: Okay, news to tell you
about the Federal Aviation
Administration investigating
after United Airlines Flight
returned to O'Hare shortly after
takeoff today. United flight 343
had been heading for San
Francisco, but the Boeing 737
started experiencing issues with
cabin pressure. Nobody got hurt.
The plane landed safely back at
O'Hare around noon. Of course,
no
Adam Curry: actual news that the
mask drop was a depressurization
events, you know when they don't
want to tell us anything. But
that doesn't really matter,
because the best Boeing news has
got to be the astronauts in
space. Have you been? Have you
been?
John C Dvorak: You? Right? This
is? Yeah, I'm actually remiss
for not having a clip of it. You
know what's gonna well? Alright,
good. So
Unknown: the Starliner deed is a
capsule that can dock with the
International Space Station and
set to become a sort of space
taxi, if you will to bring
astronauts up there into the
ISS. Now, back in 2014, NASA
actually ordered two of those
vehicles, both to Boeing and
SpaceX. And the idea was to be
able to really alternate flights
between both companies now
SpaceX, as usual, delivered very
quickly with the Crew Dragon.
It's been operational for four
years now. But Boeing's program
fell behind in a big way. And
finally, on June 5, indeed, the
Starliner was able to take off
from Florida. The goal of this
first mission was really to
demonstrate that this vehicle
created by Boeing was safe and
was capable of bringing the
astronauts up there on board,
you have two astronauts Butch
Wilmore and Serena Williams. The
test was indeed supposed to last
about a week. And it has been
extended due to a slow helium
leak in the spacecraft
propulsion system. Now, NASA and
Boeing actually knew about this
leak before takeoff. But for
some reason, I don't know how
but they initially believed it
wouldn't affect the test mission
and the astronauts safety.
And we don't know actually, when
either of them are going to be
able to come back here to plan
this right. It
sounds quite incredible. But
since June 6, they've already
changed twice the date of their
return to Earth. So at first,
NASA said they could return by
the end of but by mid July, but
then later, NASA's program boss,
Steve stitch said that he was
verifying that Starliner is
batteries could have a little
bit more autonomy, and perhaps
three months to talk. And this
is what prompted people to think
that, you know, NASA wasn't
rolling out the return by the
end of August. And for now, NASA
and Boeing says there is no
there's absolutely no issue
here. But during the press
conference, many journalists, of
course, were quite skeptical of
this. And the reason why is
because they say that, you know,
the space division of Boeing is
it can't be completely isolated
from the rest of its commercial
activities, and mainly linked to
all of the problems it's had
with its airliners,
specifically, very recently, the
loss of adore in mid flight.
This
Adam Curry: is an epic, epic
fail for Boeing.
John C Dvorak: That's really
bad. Your thoughts? You're going
to have to apologize and get the
Russians to take these guys
home.
Adam Curry: Why not musk? Why
can't Musk Musk
John C Dvorak: if musky? Well,
for one thing, Musk doesn't have
just spare rockets sitting
around that he could just launch
up there. The Russians, I might
do mine. But I think must
shouldn't do it. I think he
should make him go have the
Russians do it to show the Adi
Like dependency that we have on
Russia for the space program.
Adam Curry: Let me ask you this.
So you know Boeing is in such
deep water or as my parents used
to say Kim che. Here's a quick
clip just just to bring us up to
speed.
Unknown: The US Justice
Department for this week
criminally charged Boeing with
fraud over two fatal crashes,
Kamel Crimmins has more.
So US authorities are asking the
plane maker to plead guilty or
take the risk of going to trial.
And Boeing has until the end of
this week to decide
this comes at a particularly bad
time for Boeing. Right?
Absolutely. The
playmakers already engulfed in
crisis over its safety record.
And a guilty plea could affect
its ability to enter into
government contracts. And
business with the US military
makes up a significant chunk of
its revenues.
Adam Curry: So you know, I can't
help but think initially, were
like, hey, you know, these guys
that haven't paid their
representatives, they haven't
put enough money in the kitty,
like how much money you make
when you make $33,000,000.30 $3
million? Really, you've only
donated 1 million the whole
company, to our campaigns. What
if they just take this one step
further? Why wouldn't they take
the highly compromised? likely
one of the largest military
contractors for the United
States? Elon Musk, give the
space stuff to him, which he
already has half of the business
if not more, and why not? Let
Elon by spirit Aerosystems have
him have him build planes take
it away from Boeing. They seem
like they're just going can't
when someone else should be
building these planes. And isn't
spirit putting together the
bodies and a lot of lot of the
oil was said further okay by
Boeing.
John C Dvorak: Give Boeing to
Elon Musk has it but that's
Adam Curry: it's, it may be so
corrupted, he could just buy the
pieces out of it. What's the
stock? Is it is it crap?
John C Dvorak: No, the stock is
held up actually interesting.
That means it's not what it
should be. But it's held up.
It's not like collapsed.
Adam Curry: But it seems to me
that someone else has this this
it's too sick, and no one trusts
it. And all these bad stories is
that anything that happens in
aviation now is one of two
things Boeing or Dei, both of
which might not be but this
might not really be true in
every single case. But that's,
you know, that's, that's beside
the point. I think we need
something and Elon needs it. He
needs it. Now he I think if I
were him, I think differently
than you I'd be like, Okay,
first I'm gonna take away all
the Boeing space business. I'm
gonna get get my what does that
thing called? What's his? What's
his? His his? His is? X No, no,
his ISS shuttle rocket. What's
that thing called? Whatever,
though, I can't remember who is
also selling the mini Starlink
Now have you gotten I've been
getting ads from him for that.
The mini Starlink is a is a
Starlink internet satellite that
you can put in a backpack take
anywhere.
John C Dvorak: You have to buy
it for this. It's pretty
phenomenal technology. And he
stumbled onto it. 600 Well,
Adam Curry: it's all military.
It's, first
John C Dvorak: of all, the
government can not have one
vendor. Now they'll throw
someone else in their point of
failure. So they have to have an
alternative. And so Boeing is
supposed to be the alternative
not Boeing. Who would it be?
Adam Curry: Well, I'm just Well,
okay, how about Bezos? Where's
Bezos in the mix? Someone's got
to start building planes there's
no no faith no trust in what
Boeing is doing anymore. China
definitely has them that's why I
started doing it that's why I'm
thinking Musk speaking of China
it was kind of this this let me
see if I can find it here
John C Dvorak: Teemu is under
attack. No team who in the other
operation they're all on and so
is La Express. Yes. And then
Europe, they're under attack in
Europe. Because the Europeans
are letting this stuff flow
anything under 150 bucks is
flowing into Europe duty free
and the Europeans are looking at
this flood of crap that's coming
in. And by the way, I recommend
it all the expresses a cool
thing but do not buy any
computer related products from
them at all ever.
Adam Curry: So there's these
reports out there from outfits
like Grizzly reports.com that
say and this is this is
basically the TIC tock strategy
we believe PDD is a dying
fraudulent company its shopping
app Teemu was cleverly hit is
cleverly hidden spyware that
poses an urgent secure already
threat to us national interests.
Anything that China does that
beats us it Hello, Amazon. They
just say, national security risk
33. Yeah, it's spying on you.
All these apps are spying on
you. You can't get it into the
Apple App Store if they try
John C Dvorak: to get more
spying than Google does. Yeah,
right. or Microsoft, for that
matter.
Adam Curry: And then you and I
read this, I read the about
statement from this grisly
research. We use our research
and on the ground due diligence
capacities consult on a range of
m&a transactions and structured
investments, our ability to
sniff out when others are trying
to hide is valued by many who
are risking their own capital.
We serve institutional clients,
including family offices, hedge
funds, investment banks and
operating companies, please.
That's not You're not reporting.
You're shorting Oh, there you
go. Not reporting you're
shorting. But I think something
has to have something has to
happen with with Boeing and I
think it's got to be the trick
is in the Spirit Airlines.
John C Dvorak: Maybe Lockheed
can end up owning him. Lucky us
has experienced and if you
remember the l 1011. Is some of
the other jets they used to
have. Yeah, they're pretty good
products that the l 1011. was a
great three engine jet.
Adam Curry: Was that tried? I
don't remember that one. Yeah,
it was It tried it was the 70s
airplane. No,
John C Dvorak: I think 80s
That's what are you talking
about China, I got a immigrant
phone story that I want to get
out of the way which I always
thought was screwy never gotten
to the mainstream media. But
this kind of kind of interesting
from
Unknown: finding gaps in the US
border wall to explaining how to
apply for asylum inside the US
and online network helping
Chinese immigrants cross into
the US illegally is coming to
light. All of this discover
through a single smartphone left
behind at the border. And it is
Juliette song has the details.
A telegram group chat that
contributes to the border
crisis. It gives detailed
instructions on how to cross the
southern border and scripts for
what to say when applying for
asylum. Its owner claims to be a
cyber police officer in China.
Phillip Lindsey key is an
investigative reporter at The
Daily Caller, he broke the
story. And
it also acts as a hub for
documents detailing specific
Chinese illegal immigration
paths to the United States. It
also contains a documents that
show as many as 15 border wall
crossing points into the US 12,
which are in California, started
when he got a tip from a San
Diego resident who
lives about 50 miles to the east
of San Diego near hukum. Baja
springs, and he found a Chinese
illegal immigrants cell phone
that had been discarded on the
US side of the border. Can
Adam Curry: you imagine you're a
Chinese immigrant, you get the
cell phone, which by the way is
a Soros trick who used it for
years, getting people out of
Turkey into Europe with
everything you needed with the
maps the whole thought
everything was in it. So it's
not like some major league new
thing. Your Chinese immigrant
you come in you're like, you're
in California like oh man, Jose.
Hello, Lin. Hello, Lynn. This is
your this is your your, your
your cousin Yin. They're peeing
on each other. Hey, man. Yatta
here. This was a mistake. Oh
goodness. What's important to
hear?
Unknown: The owner of the phone
had been getting information
from a telegram group chat
caught the American self guided
tour. Furthermore,
the documents contain
information that we can think of
as scripts or templates for
Chinese illegal immigrants to
use in order to answer questions
from border patrol agents and
obtain asylum. The discovery
comes as illegal Chinese
migrants continue to flood the
southern border eight months
into fiscal year 2024. Over
80,000 had crossed into the
southern border exceeding the
total from last year. That's
according to CBP data. A large
number of them are military age
adult men, raising concerns
among some US officials. Gauge
and for Beijing, back to the
telegram chat. Its owner Jack
doubleu. claims to be a cyber
police officer in China. And TD
can't independently confirm Jack
W's identity. It's unclear if
it's backed by the Chinese
state. Though he does appear to
toe the communist party line. He
banned
Beans and sensors, accounts that
express opinions contrary to the
Chinese Communist Party,
after the Daily Caller article
came out, someone posted it in
the group chat. The owner then
pinned a message banning future
political discussions.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm a little
disappointed this of course,
Daily Caller that just reporting
on a report but this is
obviously this is particularly
when you bring in the military
aged men. This is a setup for
Trump with his big beautiful
ships and submarines and bases
as we as we mount of phony
baloney, non violent war non
kinetic war against China, which
of course will will be tariffs
and you know, the stuff that he
loves doing. But this is this is
just set up. This is just set
up. We need evil China. Believe
me, these Chinese are smart.
They're not coming down. What am
I doing here? In California? I
mean, they think they've come to
America. No, no, no, no.
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe they
can leave California go to
Austin. Well,
Adam Curry: is there a
difference? It's the same
people.
John C Dvorak: I want to stay as
because California is went to
Austin. Correct.
Adam Curry: I'd like to stay in
the region. You want horror
which quarter which Horowitz DH
unplugged on Wednesday nights.
Tuesday nights. I'm sorry,
Tuesday nights, yet. I always
listened to it on Wednesday.
That's why Tuesday nights. I try
to listen almost every single
week is fun. It's a good show
this garbage. If you wanted to
keep up on your finances without
really having to know much. You
know, it's good, perfect
Unknown: for you.
Adam Curry: Yes, it is. It's
perfect for people like me DH on
plug.com. So you guys have been
tracking the yen and this, you
know, they they banged it down
to 150. And now it's well, we
can't have a go over 160. And I
just looked it's now 161 50.
John C Dvorak: God. So yeah, so
now that means Toyotas are
cheap.
Adam Curry: So but this next
report, maybe think is this? I
mean? Do they need to print
money? Do they need to print
money to get themselves out of
this? I mean, what is the what
is the actual problem they have?
John C Dvorak: We'll play the
report and maybe I can think of
something?
Adam Curry: Well, the report is
kind of the payoff depending on
your answer.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
printing money would help that
would make it worse. Well,
Adam Curry: they're making it
worse.
Unknown: Japanese Central bank
officials breaking out the top
hat and tails for a special
occasion the country's first new
cash design in 20 years, the
government has begun sending new
10,000 5000 in 1000 yen bills
into circulation with seven and
a half billion new notes due out
by next March featuring
historical champions of Japanese
capitalism, female empowerment
and scientific achievement. The
bills have some state of the art
science of their own 3d
holographic portraits that turn
their heads depending on the
viewers angle. That's fine. I
mean,
they packed a lot of technology
into this notes to fight
counterfeiting. It's quite
amazing.
The rollout though comes with
complications. Japan's retail
economy is not only more cash
based than some of its developed
peers. It's also highly
automated while 90% of ATM
stream ticket booths and retail
registers can accept the new
bills, only about 20% of the
country's ubiquitous vending
machines can roughly half the
country's restaurants will need
to upgrade their automatic
Till's an extra headache for
owners already struggling with
inflation.
My bills already going up every
month. Upgrading the payment
machine has no real impact on
sales, so it's only negative for
us. It's a very difficult
situation. Well, neither is she.
as fancy
as the new notes are the
government would like for them
to take a smaller role in the
country's economy, aiming for
80% cashless payments to boost
productivity while digital
payments have nearly tripled in
Japan over the past decade. They
still make up less than 40% of
consumer spending
Adam Curry: I don't know what
the strategy is but they
literally printed money yeah
what is that about everybody
John C Dvorak: has to get it was
obviously was a reaction to
counterfeiting? I guess the
money's plastic I don't know
nobody said in that report
whether it was plastic looks. It
looks plastic. Plastic. Yeah.
And yeah, some new plastic
money. Well, that's good every
everywhere in the world but us
is using plastic now that's in
Canada, but
Adam Curry: that's inflationary.
By definition right? They print
more
John C Dvorak: money most this
subsidy is supposed to bring
money often out of circulation
and substitute with the new
money. That's because there's a
continual process in all
countries of grabbing money from
the banks and swapping it out
for new money and it's not
necessarily inflationary if they
get if you if your bank owes you
100, you get 100 back it doesn't
seem to be inflationary that
Adam Curry: way. But that wasn't
in the report. So I don't know.
I don't know. But that's the
weirdest way it usually works.
Meanwhile, billet Bolivia is in
a globalist missing
John C Dvorak: from your
analysis is the fact that
they're promoting this cashless
stuff when the Japanese like
most agents don't like
Adam Curry: the idea. Well, no,
that was that was in the report.
It was in the report. I don't
know how to analyze it. i That's
why I asked you when I set you
up as one of the experts.
John C Dvorak: I just don't
think that people I don't think
cashless is a great idea is the
best idea. It's good for certain
things. So
Adam Curry: Bolivia has a
problem. They have a lot of
climate change, or unfriendly
stuff for climate change. They
have gas and I guess gases, and
people can't give it away. I
don't know much about Bolivia,
but because they they have no
one's buying their gas. They
have a lack of dollars. And now
the Bolivian government has
taken an extraordinary step as
reported by France 24
Unknown: in the grip of economic
crisis, fuel mines and spiraling
prices, the new normal. Bolivia
is facing a severe shortage of
the US dollars needed to import
petrol and diesel. foreign
currency reserves have fallen
from $15 billion a decade ago to
less than 2 billion in may annoy
which they
haven't disappeared entirely but
there are not many dollars there
is some activity obviously but
not like before when it came on
board we sold but not anymore.
Our yellow desperate
for solutions. The government a
president who we are say is
looking to cryptocurrency to
ease the pressure lifting a
decade old ban on transactions
in digital money like Bitcoin.
Yeah, this is actually a global
issue. Everyone is using that
kind of payment. Why? Because
it's an international strategy
to move away from using the
dollar dollar.
The central bank says the move
is aimed at modernizing
Bolivia's payment system and
putting its policies more in
line with the rest of Latin
America. The region has seen the
wider official acceptance of
crypto in recent years with its
popularity growing in countries
like Mexico and Brazil. El
Salvador has even made Bitcoin
legal tender, requiring
companies to accept it for
payments. Bolivia, meanwhile, is
one of Latin America's poorest
countries, despite sitting on
large reserves of natural gas
and lithium gas exports abroad
though have cratered in part due
to a lack of investment in new
exploration meaning fewer and
fewer crucial US dollars coming
in.
Adam Curry: I just thought that
was interesting.
John C Dvorak: Well that brings
me to a clip All right. And it's
also has to do with like what's
happening here who's running the
show that's allowing this to
happen this is all bad for us.
Yes, us. Yes. This is the WTF
clip at the bombs the Shanghai
club. I don't know anything
never heard of this. I don't
know what's going on with it.
Why it's even in business. What
I was doing is not bricks is
another group all together. But
it seems like a lot of bricks
people are in it because it's
the energy all designed to screw
us over.
Adam Curry: Is this the SEO? Or
what the s see oh,
John C Dvorak: just see. Oh,
yeah. What
Adam Curry: is it Shanghai
corporate those Shanghai the
Shanghai corporate Shanghai
club. Shanghai Cooperation
Organization. Yeah, this is the
big I've heard about this. I'll
play the clip.
Unknown: Russian President
Vladimir Putin met with Chinese
leader Xi Jinping today at the
Shanghai Cooperation
Organization summit in
Kazakhstan.
During the meeting, Putin said
that ties between Moscow and
Beijing are experiencing the
best period in their history.
The
club was founded by Russia,
China and Central Asian powers
in 2001. One of its goals is to
counter the influence of the
United States and its allies.
The organization has since
expanded to include India, Iran
and Pakistan. Leaders
from various nations are set to
attend this week's meeting. UN
Secretary General Antonio
Guterres will also be present
row gathering is scheduled to
end tomorrow.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all I know
about this is I hear the same
thing. We don't want the BRICS
and the Shanghai Cooperation
Organization to join together
because then we're real then the
dollar is screwed is what I
Well, I'm hearing
John C Dvorak: you the fact that
this has India and Pakistan
that's crazy sworn enemies,
along with Russia and China and
then a bunch of indo Chinese
operations. All gathering in
Kazakhstan are one of these
causes because damn one,
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan to to
plot it, and it's Desert right
in the report to plot plot
against the American dollar. And
then when you play that Bolivia
clip this is not good. The
Shanghai Cooperation league
going off the rails thanks to
our President Biden the Shanghai
Cooperation
Adam Curry: Organization SCO is
a Eurasian political economic,
International Security and
Defense organization established
by China and Russia in 2001, as
the world's largest regional
organization in terms of
geographic scope and population,
covering approximately 80% of
the area of Eurasia 40% of the
world population. As of 2021,
its combined GDP was around 20%
of global GDP. This is the
successor to the Shanghai five
from 1996. Yeah, this is
definitely not good. This is why
I say people will be begging
Trump please come in fix it.
This is this is a I agree with
you this is a real problem.
John C Dvorak: Not that we know
that doing anything about it
from what I can tell. That's
what's gonna make the step
INNOPOLIS. interview
interesting.
Adam Curry: Want to take? You're
gonna take it, is it going to
tank Joe? Or is he going to say
they better?
John C Dvorak: Stephanopoulos is
in the Council on Foreign
Relations, as I mentioned at the
beginning of the show, he'll be
out and that's the Council on
Foreign Relations, which is a
bunch of globalists, and none of
us none of them in favor of
sovereignty of our country. But
that's okay. You can have your
own opinion. And they've all
been against Biden since that
debate. And Stephanopoulos is
not going to step out a line. Is
he and make Biden look good? No,
even though the vital have the
questions and everything. No,
you know that that's going to be
true and failure may be a
teleprompter behind
Stephanopoulos, his ad that
Biden is reading from for all we
know.
Adam Curry: This will be even
better than the debate. It could
be. You got a Chevron deference
clip. I see. I do. Well, he was
it says after effects. Oh, yes,
yes. Just right. Yeah, Ron and
Texas.
John C Dvorak: are on shiver
after Yeah, this is the app by
the way, this is what I think
we're going to start seeing more
and more of this is the bull
crap after effect, because
Chevron deference as we talked
about to death, you know, is a
major change in the way that the
government is going to operate.
As this not going to be as
abusive is what it really
amounts to is it used to be to
require like that poor fishing
boat guy to spend bandwidth 170
to 700 bucks for some per ship
back
Adam Curry: per vessel per
vessel per day, per day,
John C Dvorak: which you can't
afford. If you're a fisherman.
This is an after effect that
we're going to get into this in
Texas. This is going to be we're
going to hear more and more
stories like this was your phone
eat up stories federal
Unknown: judge in Texas has
delayed a ban on non compete
agreements for workers.
Companies often ask workers to
sign such agreements to promise
they won't join the employers
rivals or launch competing
businesses. The ban was approved
by the Federal Trade Commission
in April and set to take effect
in early September. But now it's
been delayed by a federal judge
who says the FTC lacked the
authority to adopt such broad
rules. The judge says that the
delay is temporary and the court
will rule on the merits of the
band before the end of August.
Adam Curry: Yes, things are
changing new sheriff in town and
I have some Chevron deference
clips. Coming from CNBC, which
means they kind of have to be
honest. But what was most
interesting about this is the
person who was being interviewed
about it is Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
Of course, he used to run the
FDA. So there said he's on the
Pfizer board. He's on the Pfizer
board. So there's some
interesting little deets in
this. Welcome
Unknown: back, everybody. The
Supreme Court has overturned a
1980s precedent known as the
chevron doctrine, that decision
could actually undercut federal
agencies, including the FDA.
Joining us right now for more on
this as former FDA commissioner
and CNBC contributor Dr. Scott
Gottlieb and Dr. Gottlieb, thank
you for being here. I wanted to
talk to you about this not just
in your role as the former FDA
commissioner, but also as
someone who used to work at the
American Enterprise Institute,
which takes the view that big
government's not always a great
thing. And I just wonder how you
are looking at this decision
that was originally brought by
by fishermen in the Atlantic who
were unhappy with having to pay
for monitors who were watching
over what they were hauling in
what why don't you talk through
how you see all of this and what
it means. Right,
and I'm still at the American
Enterprise Institute. Look, I
Adam Curry: love this. This guy
is on both sides of this
American Enterprise Institute
who are against big government
has this guy there who basically
became a multimillionaire
because of big government.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. then that
guy knows how to work it.
Unknown: He does. He does.
Right. And I'm still at the
American Enterprise Institute.
Look, I think a lot of
conservatives viewed this as a
way to constrain the
administrative state that
regulatory agencies had expanded
the scope of their authority
into new areas that Congress
hadn't clearly delineated. Now,
agencies aren't going to be able
to do that when you are a
regulator. So when I was at FDA,
if we issued rulemaking and we
were interpreting the statute in
areas of ambiguity to try to
apply our regulatory oversight
to new areas of supervision, new
product areas, we generally as
long as we went through a
rulemaking, we generally felt
that the courts would defer to
us under Chevron doctrine. And
that was a reason to go through
the rulemaking process so that
that deference would attach now
that presumption no longer
exists. And so you're going to
have to go back to Congress, in
many cases get explicit
authority if you want to extend
the agency's jurisdiction into a
new product area. Now, with
respect to FDA, specifically, I
would expect that the courts
will still defer to FDA on fact,
based decision making with
respect to the drug approval
process or medical product
review, courts, and Congress has
also has given the agency broad
grants of authority in those
areas to make fact based science
based decisions. So
Adam Curry: what I'm hearing
here is that the FDA is really
this is going to be a problem
because the FDA by themselves
could allow rules for new
categories of drugs. And, and of
course, you know, the drug
industry is second only to the
to the military industry. And
Gottlieb is no doubt one of the
premier sales guys of this whole
Cabal. So instead of talking
about Pfizer, or Maderna, or Eli
Lilly, or any other, any other
big pharma company, he gives us
examples in the case that I
understand which is the vape
business, particularly Joule,
and you know, my overall
assessment is they completely
screwed all the little guys who
were who built the industry, and
just by saying, Oh, you want to
approve some vape juice, that's
gonna be a million dollars per
flavor per nicotine level. So
put them all out of business
once they were gone. Oh, Joule
can just come back. Now. It's
okay, you can do your flavors
again, because you are the big
guys. And we'll just take your
big money, and we'll all have
jobs later on. So he uses this
as an example. And it's not
looking pretty for the pharma
industry. Could
Unknown: you have gone after
jewel the way you did and their
marketing towards kids under
this new ruling?
Or that it's quite possible?
Right. So one of the one of the
rules that could very likely be
challenged as the agency's
efforts to try to regulate
flavored vapes, for example, a
lot of what we did when we went
after jewel was taking
enforcement actions under the
existing statute and
regulations, which I think was
pretty ironclad. I think we were
on firm ground, and we weren't
challenged in courts. And we
prevailed, not under Chevron
deference. But I think that
there is having some rules that
are right.
John C Dvorak: So in other
words, what he's saying if you
read between the lines, is that
Chevron deference made no
difference in the whole thing.
But somehow it's bad. Now what
he's gonna do?
Adam Curry: I think so
Unknown: I'm not under Chevron
deference. But I think that
there is have been some rules
that have been promulgated in
the intervening years,
particularly around flavored
tobacco products where the
agency could face a challenge.
That would be one of the more
immediate places, I think you'll
see some litigation now, as a
result of this decision. You let
at the top with the politics of
this. It's interesting to just
go back to 94. When this
doctrine was first established,
it was actually conservatives
that were fighting for it,
because they felt that the
courts were second guessing
regulatory agencies. Remember
those regulatory agencies were
under the control of a
Republican president at the
time. And they felt that the
regulatory agency should have
more jurisdiction and not the
courts. And so now you see the
politics of this reversed. I
love
Adam Curry: him like, oh, it's
really it's the Republicans
fault. Really,
John C Dvorak: just so you know,
that is a that is disingenuous,
and borderlines. On a, you know,
lying by omission.
Adam Curry: from Dr. remind
everybody, yes, please.
John C Dvorak: In 1984, the
Reagan administration decided
that the EPA was being too harsh
with his rulings and it's in his
determinations and told them to
back off deregulate was the
deregulation era, and so that
the EPA saw she Okay, well,
we'll back off, we'll do what
you tell us to do. And as they
backed off, they got sued for
backing off. They got sued for
for deregulating by one of these
pressure groups, one of these
many environmentalist groups.
No, no, you can't go easy. And
that's when Chevron deference
can be well, the EPA should be
able to do what it wants to do
and government agencies should
be able to do Determine the
ambiguities. And you know, we
don't need these court cases. It
was done. For that reason he
leaves that out of his world.
The conservators are all for
this.
Adam Curry: But to wrap it up
with this final clip,
Unknown: I was just reading. I
didn't even realize Supreme
Court Justice Neil Gorsuch was
in the majority deciding this.
It was his mother, who was the
former EPA Administrator and
Gorsuch who actually made the
decision, that Supreme Court,
John C Dvorak: bullshit thing.
Neil Gorsuch, his mom was off
the off out of there two years
before, I think it's two years
before, she was not involved.
They out the I like to throw
that in there as another moment
of irony. But she, at the time
of the Chevron deference in
1984, she was not involved at
that time. She wasn't working
there.
Adam Curry: We continue,
Unknown: and Gorsuch, who
actually made the decision that
the Supreme Court upheld back in
1984, which is describing your
point exactly how it has changed
flavors with them. I guess my
question is, I've had other
people who are former FDA
officials saying, Look, this
could be very bad, because it
could mean that Congress
basically has to sign off on
every decision that they're
making could really slow things
down, especially when you
consider that Congress can't
even do its own job on time,
which is coming up with the
budget. Are you concerned on
that level? And you mentioned
yourself that the Congress may
have to rewrite some of these
rules? Do you see that
happening? How long would that
take? And how difficult of a job
would that be to get through
Congress?
Yeah, with respect to FDA, I
think that there is a general
view in Washington that they go
through very careful rulemaking.
It's the agency issues, a lot of
regulations. And if you look a
lot of statute, Congress gives
the agency broad grants of
discretion by directing it to
develop guidance in specific
areas. So in areas where the
Congress has explicitly said, We
want you to develop a guidance
to delineate what your
regulatory oversight is going to
be in this general area that I
think if you read the recent
Supreme Court decision, those
would be perceived as general
grants of authority back to the
agency. And so I think you're
going to see more of that, in
statute, I wouldn't be worried
about the agency's decision
making around scientific
matters, product review
decisions, I think it's going to
be in areas where the agency has
stepped in to regulate new areas
of technology, where Congress
didn't explicitly direct the
agency to do that. And so those
aren't very common. They do
exist. Laboratory developed
tests, as I mentioned, is one of
the things that I would expect
to be challenged quite
immediately under this Supreme
Court decision. But as far as
the day in day out of the
agency's scientific decision
making, I would expect those to
be subject to challenges.
Another broad area, where I
think you're gonna see more
challenges is around the grants
of exclusivity, the FDA makes a
lot of determinations about what
exclusivity periods, different
products are entitled to. Those
are already the subject of a lot
of litigation. I think under
this new recent Supreme Court
ruling, you're going to see more
challenges there. I
Adam Curry: think that's the big
one. I didn't realize that that
also was part of what FDA did I
say, Oh, well, you know, you
guys can have this for 10 years.
Yeah, we determined that through
our scientific process. Well,
that
John C Dvorak: has to do with
the patents. Yes, are limited in
length and yeah, and of money
making patent last vi graph, for
example, ever printed in some of
these other, you know, real
money makers, that the cash cows
of the farm of Big Pharma, they
this pens run out long ago, but
they could somehow just stay
there. Yeah, there's some
generic companies are allowed to
make a copy and they sell it for
the same price. I mean, it's the
whole thing is rigged into the
idea was that after the patent
expires, you should be able to
buy these drugs generically for
a 10th of the price. And that
was true for a while, until the
generic drug companies were
bought up by big pharma and then
they jacked up the price on the
generics. And they didn't allow
other people in the market. And
I think the FDA has something to
do with that. Now now you guys
can't make these reviews all
gotta be made by these guys or
somebody in China, which is
what's going on now with a lot
of drugs. This is bad. did.
Adam Curry: I have one last
clip? It's a tick tock clip.
It's a big, big glut. Yeah, I
know. It's a tick tock tick
tock, tick tock, tick tock. I
know, it's a tick tock club, a
club clip that has been going
around, it's now on YouTube on
the shorts. There's many of them
that's been that's been going on
for a number of months, but it's
really coming to a head and it's
quite concerning since we have
also received one of these
products from Costco no less.
And we need to discuss
Unknown: something bad is
happening to the fruit in
America. Hundreds of people on
Tik Tok are reporting that
anytime they buy produce from
the grocery store, it's super
rubbery and almost feels fake.
They are selling fake avocados
in Texas. It happened to this
woman when she bought watermelon
for her kids as it was super
stretchy and inedible
to my kids, and they're all
bringing it right back saying
they don't like the texture. I
can't Leave I got one I got a
robbery
watermelon. Again when this
person bought avocados in Texas
that felt like playdough it's
even been happening to bananas
and this popular Tik Tok or
swears that there was a fake
blueberry made out of silicone
in the pack of real blueberries
that she allegedly bought from
Costco. Why is there a rubber
blueberry in my toddlers? As a
result, everyone in the comments
is freaking out saying that the
fruits are being pumped with
growth hormones and others are
saying that they will only be
shopping at farmer's markets
from now on as most of the time
the labels are accurate. And
anytime you go to a different
country in Europe or South
America, their produce tastes
much more flavorful. So
Adam Curry: this this, this is a
very weird one. And I've been
hearing about this mainly about
avocados, but you see watermelon
that mean you can you can bend
it, you can even break it when
you
John C Dvorak: bet you can. Yes,
I researched this. Oh,
Adam Curry: thank you. This is
why there's too and it's
John C Dvorak: quite easy to
make a watermelon that way over
you refrigerate it for a long
time and you let it kind of it
kind of desiccated in the
refrigerator refrigerators, dry
things out. And I did it. I had
a bottle watermelon that about
two or three weeks ago I had one
dropped off actually had half of
it was just a normal watermelon.
I took a chunk of it left in the
refrigerator long enough and it
turned into exactly that same
rubbery watermelon that woman
has on the Tiktok which is
disingenuous bullcrap. And the
end the rubber blueberry, she
said, if you listen to her
carefully, she says she was
grinding something away at for
some reason.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
it was in the garbage disposal.
John C Dvorak: That's why you're
saying she's grinding something
in the garbage disposal. And the
blueberry wouldn't grind up and
she got it out of there and
found it was if it was I don't
care what it was. If you have a
decent garbage disposal, it's
gonna beat the crap out of it
and it's gonna go down the
drain. That's a fake the rubbery
watermelons of fake I haven't
dealt with Stunner with the
avocado things about this is
bull crap. Well, this whole
report is bull crap. It's
Adam Curry: a tick tock video,
John. It's not a report. We
threw avocados out that we got
from Costco. They were literally
like rubber that I'm not kidding
you. And in Tina was aghast.
She's like, What is this? This
is not in
John C Dvorak: chairs. There are
bad avocados that hit the
market. They usually not ripe.
Okay. I mean, it's not unusual
to find an avocado that's kind
of rubbery because it's not it's
like looks fine inside. But it
is not the right color and
everything but it's not right.
It's not you know, it doesn't
have any soft, softened
characteristic. You should have
just left let them ripen a
little
Adam Curry: bit wouldn't
wouldn't ripen. With
John C Dvorak: this you Well,
that's odd in itself. But oh,
there's
Adam Curry: the one other thing
is this APO? Have you heard of
the APO? This is some kind of
substance that Oh, yes,
John C Dvorak: I have heard
this. This. This spray? Yeah.
Yeah, that everyone's up against
it. What are they putting it on?
I
Adam Curry: forgot kados
avocados. Oh, well. I've
John C Dvorak: never seen an
avocado with it on there. So
maybe there's something to that.
But I find that this whole thing
seems to be very dubious. I'm
not sure what the point of it
is. Well, to get people to go to
farmers markets, I think the
which is a good idea. I don't
have a problem with that. Well,
Adam Curry: you heard it here.
But no, ladies and gentlemen,
John C. Dvorak says your
watermelon is safe to eat. Your
blueberries are safe to eat. And
don't worry that chicken on
United is safe to eat.
John C Dvorak: I didn't say
that. You're putting words in my
mouth. Of course that will bring
us to the tip of the day later.
All right,
Unknown: we'll get to that in a
moment. I'm going to show my
move by donation to no agenda
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
Adam Curry: we got Tip of the
Day coming up we got some we got
a night we got a Dane we got a
title upgrade. We have some cool
meet up reports. And of course,
the birthdays. John first will
take us through to the 50s of
our producers who donated some
treasure in our value for value
model.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have a
note I'm going to have to read
because it was a donate. It's a
dame would note. Oh goody. J
starts us off though. from
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
167 90. Terry Wentz in Langley,
Washington. 125 Dame read it in
Sparks, Nevada 123 45 Judy
Schwartz and Bernie Bernie
Texas.
Adam Curry: Oh, they have a
welcoming a new human resource.
Taylor and Logan just had a baby
girl Darby Rose. Welcome to get
my nation
John C Dvorak: Derby row. 105 35
Hello, Darby bear Alaskan in
Houston Texas. Must be wet down
there at $100 John Robert yaghi
getting any effects in your neck
of the woods from the big
hurricane nothing
Adam Curry: yet but I do have
friends in Jamaica who are
pretty worried right now.
John C Dvorak: John robbing a
$100 Joan pulse I think Paul's
like it all she sent a note Yes,
she's a dame going to be a dame
now and so she sent in $100 and
says I'm faithfully listened to
every no agenda since mid 2021.
My good friend, my my Maya,
Maya, hit me in the mouth, your
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Thank you. And thanks to all the
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waiting if available please
grant me the title Dame Joan of
bark.
Adam Curry: I think that's
available it's a good one.
John C Dvorak: At the end nobody
else has used it at the
roundtable I would like you get
your pen out. Yep, piping hot
dish a veal piccata with extra
capers. I forgot to cook that
for a while myself. I shouldn't
do that as good and perfect wine
pairing John would you mind
recommending a wine that is
quite that's quite expensive.
All right.
Adam Curry: Easy does it worth
paying for the roundtable stuff?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, is a white
wine you need so let's have some
let's have some French any
vintage of of lomandra che for
from any any buddy making let's
do lomandra
Adam Curry: let's do a 2016
John C Dvorak: I think 2015 may
be better.
Adam Curry: We have a 2015 Yes,
we have a 2015
John C Dvorak: Entering game
hood is quite a celebration.
Mantra che is your wine of the
day. It's probably another guest
in today's market. 3000 bucks.
Hopefully this notarizing
Adam Curry: sat back to the
cellar.
John C Dvorak: Hopefully this
notarizing time for my birthday
on June 13 I don't think I Oh, I
forgot to put on the birthday
list. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay. Joan of bark.
Hold on a second. Dirt of bark.
Jonah bark and she would like
when is she celebrating?
John C Dvorak: The 30th of June.
Oh, belated okay. She's never
been de douche. Ben de deuced
and she wants a biscuit for
birthday.
Adam Curry: Man sorry about
that. No, it's okay it's just
it's a very expensive Daming
with that why
Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: There's your biscuit
on your birthday.
John C Dvorak: We could back it
off but I think that's your
future. Future President
everybody let's move it to a
2005 There you go.
Adam Curry: That's cheaper.
John C Dvorak: You know it's a
probably around the same price.
Do we have any will be a
stunner.
Adam Curry: Okay. 2005 lamonta
Shea. The mantra Shea love was
John C Dvorak: as old as it is
is probably killer that it needs
to be removed from the cellar.
It's getting too old. Yeah.
Okay,
Adam Curry: we're taking it out.
John C Dvorak: All right, onward
with Kelly spunk Berg of the
spunk Berg clan in Rocky
Mountain, Alberta. Now 100 Julie
Williams in Huntington Beach.
pondered. Joe Dirks in Amsterdam
9626 to Wabo donation
Adam Curry: for July 6, the uovo
Meetup
John C Dvorak: is coming up. Sir
Brian Tobias in in Gardner
Kansas, at 8808. Special boop
Yeah, Kevin McLaughlin in
Concord North Carolina. 808
There he is. He's not missing a
day is Dr. Stuka Luna by the
way. Edward Owens in Alameda,
California 808 And
Adam Curry: I believe he has
achieved knighthood status he
says John Adam after over a year
of boob donations I have finally
achieved knighthood status. I
want to be known as Sir Fast
Eddie of Alameda, the island of
boobs. I'd like tacos at the
round table and to hear my night
name followed by the F 35. Guy.
Thank you for what you do. I
look forward to each and every
show your pal Edward Owens soon
to be served Fast Eddie of
Alameda, the island of boobs.
We'll see on the podium.
John C Dvorak: Sir Dan, The
Quiet Man in Alpharetta. 808
land and boobs today. Mars Chela
Barton in Monday, Texas 7865
She's got a birthday coming up.
Aaron Daniels in Norman,
Oklahoma. 77. and D douching.
Unnecessary. You've been D
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in Rochester New Hampshire 76 JD
and Elkhorn Nebraska 7424. And,
and Ron de Pierre Rick's zoo in
Trumbull, Connecticut 7424
Adam Curry: And that's our
deadline for donations I
John C Dvorak: guess. I guess so
dusty Clendon in Arlington,
Texas 7176. John boy Burr, bore
boy born holy boy Hey boy.
Adam Curry: Hey farmer, Mr.
John C Dvorak: Hay farmer in
Bristol Tennessee 704. Sir
becoming heroic and Scharer
Ville, Indiana 6886 This jiggly
boobs according to him. My I
don't quite get that but okay,
I'll think about it. Mike in
Michigan 6393. He needs a D
Duchenne. You've been de deuced
Jen of the woodlands store in
Hebron, Connecticut, Kentucky,
to dis 808 another birthday. For
the dog in Stanhope New Jersey
3798 Scott mangle in Exton
Pennsylvania 5555 We beat
Medicare he says Ryan Furley 55
in sir slipping time in Cherry
Valley, California 5510 He
Adam Curry: just got his first
hour and an AR 22 We said it was
great. Yes, we call it the boat
the bone shaker. How'd you go?
How'd you go about get earning
your helicopter license. Adam
Well, I was rich at the time.
John C Dvorak: Sir dancing Mike
in Maryville, Tennessee 5454
another birthday call to his
smokin hot wife. Damn that damn
damn Denise Dame didn't miles in
Charlottesville, Virginia for
the for 20 Heather Harper in
Lubbock, Texas 5333 John Bassano
and Madison Alabama 5272. Israel
Rexy $50 donors, Samantha loom
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Michigan Jacob Martinez in El
Monte California, James
sheremeta Sir James in Napa NOC
New York, Kurt Patrick and nine
nameko Nanaimo. I saw like the
name of it, they said Nanaimo
and I'm corrected one way or the
other. Doesn't matter. I can't
pronounce it. Chris Conacher in
Anchorage, Michael Felix in
Modesto. And last on our list in
Roseburg, Oregon is Leslie
Walker, and I think she might
need a de Deus Xing
Adam Curry: de deuced. She got
it, then thank you to all these
donors. We want to thank
everyone who came in under $50
as well. We did not mention
anyone under that level. For
reasons of anonymity, we see you
4999 I appreciate it very much.
And of course, anyone who comes
in with the lower amount it is
all highly appreciated. It's how
the value for value model works.
The Sustaining donations are
critically important. You can
make one up yourself you as you
can see from this list, we have
people who eventually become
Knights and Dames through doing
that and it's really worth it.
That's when you get the
beautiful signet ring and you
get the status at the meetups
and we just appreciate anyone
and everyone supporting the best
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You've got karma, no agenda.
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today
and we congratulate belatedly,
Joan and Barbara, who celebrate
her birthday on the 30th
Marcella Barton turns 60 today
Happy Birthday. Nice day to
celebrate with rockets. Jenna
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He is turning eight he's it's
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Unknown: don't want to be
induced banned
Adam Curry: there she is David
Kelly of the longest Island
becomes a baron Netis today
thanks for upgrade of another
aggregate of $1,000 we
congratulate you Dame Kelly, and
thank you very much for
supporting the best podcast in
the universe. today. It's been a
couple of weeks of a couple of
shows actually since we've had a
dame or a night and we have one
of each. So I'm going to draw
the big Fourth of July July July
this really the Fourth of July
blade and do you have one here
we go
Unknown: I got once Independence
Day blade it is.
Adam Curry: John Paulson Edward
Owen, step right up both of you
are becoming members of the
roundtable. The no agenda
Knights and Dames thanks to your
contributions the best podcast
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proud to pronounce the Ks D as
Dame Joan of bark. And Sir Fast
Eddie of Alameda and the island
of Bobe. I did not forget you
brother. Headed over to no
agenda rings.com. After you
enjoy what we have at the
roundtable by request piping hot
dish revealed plicata with extra
capers and 2005 lomandra che and
some tacos. Along with that we
have the fare of mutton and meat
and no agenda rings.com Right
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all the information that you
need to send off to us including
your ring size, you get that
beautiful signet ring, which you
can use to seal your important
important correspondence with,
with the sealing wax, which I
was just reading, by the way
that the United States Postal
Service may send you a warning.
If you send wax sealed envelopes
to the mail.
John C Dvorak: I get quite a few
of those and ever get a warning.
Same here.
Adam Curry: I've never gotten a
warning about them at all. But
they're saying oh no, because
people do that for, you know,
for wedding invitations and for
all kinds of moms. And
apparently
John C Dvorak: United States
Postal Service has a probably a
good call off and just sort
Adam Curry: of well we have lots
of mail carriers here so maybe
sir TJ the raffle or someone
else can let us know what that's
all about. And once again,
congratulations to our brand new
Dame that is Dame Jonah bark and
our brand new knights are Fast
Eddie of Alameda, the island of
boobs and whenever we say that
name, we have to end it with
this
Well, we do have a meetup taking
place today. But before we get
to that we have a couple of
meetup reports. The first one is
from the southwest New
Hampshire. The Keene meetup
Unknown: isn't read up report
for Keene, New Hampshire, there
was five of us, we had about a
three hour long amygdala
shrinking discussion about
COVID. But we didn't talk about
Trump or Biden. It's true. What
do you think about Biden but
about Trump, what about Trump?
With me?
Or anything like that brave
voice that voice was perfect. We
Adam Curry: could use more of
that. Yeah, we
John C Dvorak: went Morrison to
material from that voice before
it changes.
Adam Curry: Final meet up report
is the Dallas Dallas Forth Worth
report and this of course was
the birthday meet up from the
dirty Jersey horn.
Unknown: We need some NAT POP.
We're coming to you from Dallas,
Texas. Dirty Jersey horn.
Birthday Celebration
in the morning, we're coming to
you from Dallas Texas. Lee
Harvey's, Matthew. Future night
of the black Bayou.
Sir Chris from sexy Texas
in the morning. Hey, this is
Chris in Dallas. Adam. I think I
have a crush on the fat lady. Is
she single? You got her number
be my wing man. Hey, John. Let's
start a harmonica Jam Band. Oh,
brother. I dropped it. We're
still going you're gonna this is
dirty jersey. Har apparently
somebody's birthday was a is not
mine. I don't know. You're
talking about worry. We'll fix
all this and post. Don't worry
about it. We'll do
it live. Stop the hammering.
Hey, anyway, we're coming to you
from Dallas, Texas. We're having
a great time. We're having a
birthday celebration in the
morning slaves. I'm having a
great time and I hope you are
too. No agenda nation. 2024 you
can't be oh oops I didn't record
sorry
place there it is to
Adam Curry: be honest about it
who wouldn't want to join a
party like that? That's what a
lot of the no agenda meetups are
like they really are you should
join one at least once in your
life I guarantee you you want to
go back now today you could be
at the longest standing member
London meetup which may be they
may be all hammered by now that
was the real ale way This of
course was Griffes meet up in in
Kent. So hopefully we'll get a
meet up report from them with us
always good about the promos.
Tomorrow in Perth, Australia,
the West the WA is Western
Australia not Washington meet up
and we know that seven o'clock
Australian western standard time
gauge road Fremantle brewery in
Fremantle, Western Australia,
not Washington, please send us a
meetup report. We'd love the
reports from overseas on
Saturday the fears freedom
meetup in old town that three
o'clock in Home and Away in San
Diego, California. And on
Saturday, the barbecue a
barbecue music and viewer that's
the robo meetup that's been
promoted with the donations four
o'clock Dutch oh gee time in
town park Lissabon. That's an
Amsterdam, the Netherlands show
sir Joe Dirks, who has been
donating to promote it will be
organizing that many more
awesome locations to visit for
your meetups including Trinidad
and Tobago coming up. What else
is there? Awesome places like
Fort Wayne, Indiana. There's all
kinds of great places you can go
to a meetup. You can find it but
no agenda meetup.com It's all
producer organized. So you all
pitch in and you make it work
and you make friends and you
start telegram groups. And you
all keep Gitmo nation on the map
if you can't find one near you
start one yourself no agenda
meetups.com to go hang out with
Tyson day. You won't be
triggered. You say is like now
we always like to choose a fun
ISO to end the show with and you
win today, John, just like on
the last show. I won because I
have zero ISOs I have a lot. I
know. So let's hear him.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with good luck.
Unknown: Good luck. And God
bless for real Pharrell. For
Adam Curry: real for real, okay,
it's not bad.
John C Dvorak: And we go to
greener, greener,
Adam Curry: healthier, and more
effective. Okay, all right.
Unknown: Yeah, I like this kind
of grow and grow. Watch your
hose grow and grow.
Adam Curry: I liked the hose
growing and growing. Yes, I like
that one.
John C Dvorak: And the other one
is love hose.
Adam Curry: I love my hose.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: these are those
are both commemorating the Gay
Pride. Yes, yes, van. No doubt.
Adam Curry: No doubt, no doubt.
John C Dvorak: Then I got the
idea. Well, you know, this is
the fourth of July and the thing
to do is you gotta be careful.
Don't blow your hand off, so I
thought his stay safe. Ending
would be perfect. And I wanted
to introduce it with a medley of
the stay safe did not as an
Isobe as a medley of to remind
us what was going on during
COVID on some of the networks.
Oh, goodness. Yes. I wanted to
play this stay safe. medley,
Haley Birdwell,
Unknown: thank you so much for
being here. And please stay
safe. Congressman Adam Schiff,
thank you so much for being here
tonight. And please stay safe.
Colorado's Secretary of State
John Criswell, thank you so much
for being here tonight. Please
stay safe. NBC News
correspondent Priscilla
Thompson, thank you so much for
being here tonight. And please
stay safe. Lee Merritt, thank
you so much for your time
tonight. Please
stay safe.
Timothy O'Brien thank you so
much for being here tonight. And
please stay safe state
representative Jeremy Gray. I
want to thank you for your time
tonight and please stay safe.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was
literally what it was wasn't it?
It was ridiculous and we had her
own which was stay safe with
Jesus
John C Dvorak: Well, I that's
what I got. So I have to it
there's actually two of them. I
forgot this one. The first one
is the yell face. They say if
you yell Yeah. Which I thought
was a bit much and there's
another version of it, which is
a softer version, which is my
would I'd like to see is just a
regular stay safe. I don't have
I don't see. You should have
stay safe ISO stay safe. medley
stay safe yell. Let's see.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I think
this is the this is the one
John C Dvorak: that one yeah.
That was the yeah
Adam Curry: now. Nothing kind of
beats the love my hose. I
Unknown: find nothing beats the
hose. Good news. It's good
advice John seize the day.
Adam Curry: Right everybody it's
time for John Cena borax Tip of
the day as we leave you with
some good advice, a tip
something that you can use for
your travels for your life for
your world. John, what do you
have for us today?
John C Dvorak: Well us as we
brought it up earlier in the
show is that if you're on a
flight, you're flying around the
world you're going overseas
especially on the flight out and
not so he's not as important on
the way back because you'd be at
home sick don't eat shrimp on an
airplane. Avoid shrimp on the
flight out and avoid a fruit on
the flight out if I recall sure
Adam Curry: if I recall
correctly you the original
warning was even more dire it
was don't eat seafood the night
before you leave
John C Dvorak: that's another
one don't eat seafood the night
before you leave don't eat
shrimp on a plane don't eat
fruit on the plane. Yes Don't
eat don't In other words, don't
go out and have an oyster dinner
the night before your flight
Adam Curry: and don't eat the
chicken on the plane to another
day just a tip everybody. Jhansi
Dvorak fabulous as always, that
wraps up our we didn't have to
do it but we love you see we did
anyway July 4 episode and we're
working throughout the whole
July 4 weekend. We'll be here on
Sunday. Of course. We do have a
patriotic wink wink nudge nudge.
End of show mix sir Ned wood
we've got Sir Chris Wilson,
we've got sir seat sitter and
Professor Jay Jones, all laying
it on you. And the stream also
continues right after we're done
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This is episode 295. We'd
actually talk about it much
today the consequences of the
Supreme Court. We'll have to see
what she says about it coming to
you from the not so exploding.
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA
Region number six in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we may have
some fireworks tonight that
actually get through the fog and
Genesee Devora Happy
Adam Curry: Birthday America
enjoy your Fourth of July
everybody remember us at no
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Sunday adios mofos Hui Hui, and
such
Unknown: y'all
douche bags in your lead these
bags in my last phone call me to
the gizmo like the decal shop,
to Maxine Waters. douchebags to
dissolve und
like very much How do y'all it's
me here again with a quick
reminder about what's wriggling
for you see a lot of people are
proud to be American. That's
wrong. In tomorrow, the Orange
Man was gone. I'd be happy with
my lap after the communists when
everything will be just fine.
Hit notches with Chrome bars.
And let's see man milkshakes.
Because the bag is an Asian
fascist. It's not like Nazis can
be gay. Proud to be in Antifa
man, Roger. Free Speech growing
in me and growing only route
stamping your revenant for To
Remember folks, America's chips,
and it's never too late to start
punching Nazis violently
assaulting Republicans,
centrists, journalists, and
anyone who made Hillary lose by
voting for Jill Stein.
We are at war with Russia. We
are already on the precipice of
losing the freedom and
independence of the nation. We
are no longer a free people. The
CIA and FBI and Homeland
Security are beholden to Scott.
They said something a man for
whom the Russians interfered
with our election, Russia and
why does the West hate Russia?
This is a
reality. And all of our freedoms
hang by a thread the fire hose
of lies that is Donald Trump,
tantamount to treason to the
most immoral decisions in the
history of the free press.
Adam Curry: It seems like Russia
is in on it. The usurper
Unknown: has no validity. A man
who the Russians wanted to run
our country for them comes from
Russia authority under the
Constitution
John C Dvorak: What is with this
deep seated hatred of Russia
said
Unknown: something the decision
to not fact check by CNN for the
most immoral decisions in the
history of the Free Press
tantamount to treason. act of
war. Dead is you CNN should fire
everybody I think that sounds
pretty good. And burn the
goddamn place to the ground.
Stay well, CNN should fire
everybody and burn the goddamn
place to the ground.
Adam Curry: CNN should where's
the AI to fix all that?
Unknown: Already wire everybody
and burn the goddamn place to
the ground. It was about Russia
at some point tonight, seal off
the buildings go off the air in
shame. Why does the West hate
Russia? Fire everybody stay and
burn the goddamn place to the
ground. CNN should Russian Stop
it fire everybody. I think that
sounds pretty good. And burn the
goddamn place to the ground.
Adam Curry: Where's the AI to
fix all that? Already? Science.
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/n A I
love my house.