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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we're all wondering
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what we're going to talk about
today. I'm John Cena moreq.
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Adam Curry: Breaking breaking,
nobody knows anything. Alert
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alert. Well, that was certainly
a rhetoric rhetoric. Reset. Man
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Oh, man. Oh, man. Yeah, I had a
very interesting weekend. Yeah,
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sad Saturday. The fiber goes out
for most of the day, and that
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does slow things down. And that
Friday, actually Friday, and
1:04
then Saturday. You remember we
had that whole conversation
1:08
about ghosting by Drs. Yes.
Well, both of them blew up.
1:13
John C Dvorak: The ghosted drive
blew up to both of them. Ah, see
1:17
now I was laughing earlier, but
now I don't feel good. No, you
1:20
shouldn't it that's terrible
when they go straw. That's a
1:25
nightmare.
1:26
Adam Curry: You sound a little
different. Why do you sound
1:28
different? This is
1:30
John C Dvorak: your new gear.
You're all geared up?
1:32
Adam Curry: Is it? Is it a
different microphone perhaps?
1:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've got no
changes.
1:36
Adam Curry: Second, let
1:37
Unknown: me the EQ. Yeah,
1:39
Adam Curry: yeah, must be the EQ
I don't know what it is. Is very
1:42
weird. You sound you sound all
bassy Okay,
1:46
John C Dvorak: do I sound like
Count Basie?
1:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, let me turn
this off. Maybe that'll help you
1:51
say,
1:52
John C Dvorak: I'd taken a big
Basie Yeah, you
1:54
Adam Curry: sound very basic.
I'm taking out your big bottom
1:56
anyway. No, yeah, yeah. You
don't need it. You don't need
1:59
the big bottom. Well, of course
with the with shows like like
2:07
today there's like I think we're
probably both over clipped.
2:14
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
I don't think I had that many
2:17
clips. I think you probably do
because you get your you have
2:19
your minions your slaves provide
you with extra clips. And I
2:24
Adam Curry: think I actually do
pretty well on my own. Why
2:31
didn't you I saw you had well,
what tell me where you want to
2:34
start? Because obviously people
are like, oh, yeah, I can't wait
2:37
for the show. So I have a lot of
thoughts about about what
2:40
happened but maybe you have a
background or just to get us
2:43
started for prosperity sake. You
know, in the future when
2:46
someone's listening to the show
and says what are they talking
2:48
about?
2:49
John C Dvorak: Okay, well let's
start with immediate shooting
2:51
revenue. This is a guy called
Stormin Norman who is a well
2:54
known kick talker, and I thought
he wrapped up the media coverage
2:59
pretty well. Today,
3:01
Unknown: several of the liberal
outlets made the choice to
3:03
display absolute degeneracy when
covering Trump's attempted
3:06
assassination in Pennsylvania.
Now, not all of the left leaning
3:09
outlets did this. ABC News CBS,
NBC News and others reported
3:13
correctly along with center
independent and right leaning
3:16
sources that Trump was shocked
and Secret Service removed him
3:19
immediately. Yet CNN and others
decided to go in a different
3:23
direction. CNN wrote Secret
Service rushes Trump off stage
3:27
after he falls at rally DND star
and other USA Today outlet said
3:32
Trump removed from stage by
secret service after loud noises
3:36
startles former president. The
Washington Post wrote Trump
3:39
taken away after loud noises at
rally very specific that
3:44
politico decided to kick it up a
notch by writing a photo of
3:47
bloody Trump fist bumping
immediately spotlighted by his
3:50
allies. Newsweek wrote an
incredible headline that has
3:55
since been deleted. Magga
responds with outrage after
3:58
Donald Trump injured at
Pennsylvania rally. Yes, that's
4:01
the story conservatives pounce
on the former president's
4:05
attempted assassination. Now,
not to be outdone, Colorado
4:08
Democrat and State
Representative Steve wood
4:10
decided now was the right time
to tweet. The last thing America
4:14
needed was Sympathy for the
Devil. But here we are. It turns
4:19
out that spending eight years
calling a man Hitler and the
4:22
devil has disgusting
consequences. And as usual, the
4:26
legacy media are complicit
4:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's really
interesting is everyone's kind
4:31
of trying to search who to blame
what to blame. And as always,
4:36
there's this incessant who what
why where why we got to find out
4:40
manifesto where Baba set up
false flag it's like everybody's
4:46
just just buzz and just
4:49
John C Dvorak: buzzing around
Mastadon that's what the whole
4:52
thing is set up. It's a phony.
It's it's false flag.
4:55
Adam Curry: Yeah, there was
definitely a lot of that, you
4:58
know I can tell you pretty,
pretty confidently it was real.
5:05
How about this? You saw the
picture of the bullet flying by,
5:09
John C Dvorak: you know, I, I, I
saw that picture, but I blew it
5:13
up and I didn't see anything
going anywhere.
5:15
Adam Curry: So, Mike, my
question is, is that is that
5:18
really even possible to? I mean,
I don't know. I know back in the
5:23
day if you wanted to if you
wanted to catch a flying bullet,
5:26
you had to have a super fast
shutter speed. I don't know how
5:29
that works with digital cameras
today.
5:31
John C Dvorak: Know that now
that you mentioned it? The No,
5:35
there's no way. I think that's
just bullcrap.
5:38
Adam Curry: I have my questions
about it for sure. So where do
5:43
you want to start to Who do you
want to blame first? Who could
5:46
we can blame a lot of different
people? Well,
5:48
Unknown: I
5:49
John C Dvorak: think we should
start with let's start at the
5:51
top. Dan bond Geno, we'll have
some very interesting show.
5:58
Tomorrow radio show.
6:00
Adam Curry: I have I have a Dan
bond Gino clip, actually. Yeah.
6:03
Once
6:03
John C Dvorak: you start with
that, then I want to play the
6:05
old clip from CBS that extols
the virtue of the head of the
6:09
Secret Service. And I
6:10
Unknown: got to tell you the
secret service to be very
6:12
careful. I can tell you an
absolutely confirm right from
6:16
the horse's mouth from multiple
people, not just one and I saw
6:20
Congressman wolves, Texas out
before on x, there have been
6:23
repeated requests to increase
the security footprint around
6:27
not just the residences of
Donald Trump, but the body
6:30
itself, and they have been
rebuffed. Like I said, I can
6:33
tell you actual quotes, the
secret service directors
6:36
completely failed, and candidly
should resign today, Kim Cheadle
6:40
has failed Donald Trump and
honestly failed Joe Biden to
6:44
he's the president right now.
Where's the DHS Secretary? I
6:48
mean, this is you're blaming it
on manpower? Yes,
6:54
John C Dvorak: you could blame
it on woman power because here's
6:56
the CBS report this is Oh yeah,
this
6:59
Adam Curry: this and this just
air didn't it didn't this just
7:01
air like a week ago or so? I
7:05
John C Dvorak: think it's older
than that. This is the head of a
7:07
secret service CBS Okay,
7:10
Unknown: to expand hiring.
They're aiming to have 30% Women
7:14
recruits by 2030 and even
allowed YouTube influencer
7:18
Michelle Caray to train with
agents. But I'm
7:21
very conscious as, as I sit in
this chair now of making sure
7:26
that we need to attract diverse
candidates and ensure that we
7:30
are developing and giving
opportunities to everybody in
7:33
our workforce, and particularly
women.
7:36
That workforce will be pivotal
for the 2024 campaign season,
7:40
which for the first time
includes a former president who
7:43
already has lifetime protection.
Agents were there when Donald
7:48
Trump was arraigned in New York,
we
7:50
were able to work out the
details ahead of time of how
7:52
that particular day was going to
go. But we will always ensure
7:56
the safety of all of our
protectors that
7:58
we have the service has a zero
fail missing a missing officers
8:03
are training to uphold
pretending this field is the
8:06
most famous address in America.
This
8:10
Adam Curry: this Cheeto lady.
She was assigned to Vice
8:15
President Biden during the Obama
administration. Which I didn't
8:21
know Well,
8:22
John C Dvorak: I think in
between then, and now she was
8:25
the head of she was a basically
a glorified security guard at
8:31
PepsiCo. Yes.
8:33
Adam Curry: Yes, she was she the
only see I read that somewhere
8:39
too.
8:41
John C Dvorak: Well, she if you
I don't know if you saw this
8:43
what you probably did, but
people should at least take a
8:47
look when they when they shove
Trump into the into the car at
8:50
the end of the shooting. And
they whisked him off. There's
8:53
three women there
8:55
Adam Curry: and they are
fumbling and bumbling to be quit
8:57
John C Dvorak: fumbling and
bumbling. They're small to their
9:00
small women. You know, they talk
about hiring more women. How
9:03
about hiring some 320 pound, six
foot six black dudes who would
9:11
like to do that kind of work?
Because they you know they were
9:14
on a football team. At one
point. They're like knocking
9:16
heads. I didn't see one black
face and the whole contingent of
9:20
security at that additional
distri, diminutive women that
9:25
were scrambling around and
getting bumped into and they
9:27
didn't couldn't hold their own
ground. I saw that but I didn't
9:30
see any bruisers. So the rather
have a be honest about her. I
9:34
have a big bruiser, black,
white. I don't care what it is.
9:37
But there are black bodyguards
that are the kind of guys who
9:41
you do trust and want the
female, female. The females
9:46
anything about hiring more black
dudes, the female,
9:49
Adam Curry: you got to hang up
about the black dudes. The
9:51
female, the female agent who was
part of the human shield with a
9:56
ponytail. Tina saw her at
Marilla I go when I remember she
10:01
was there for some event. And
then Trump walked in. And she
10:06
she said that she was, to quote
her badass. She thought she
10:11
thought she was really
impressive. So, and it's hard to
10:15
I mean, I saw it and another
secret service agent bumbling to
10:18
get his weapon into his holster.
I mean, you know, there's a lot
10:20
going on. But ultimately, they
all jumped in the line of fire.
10:23
So there's that. We'll get to
that in a minute. Here's the ABC
10:29
Stephanopoulos also interviewed
Cheadle, and Astor the and this,
10:34
I think, was pretty recent as to
the most important question,
10:37
what is the
10:37
Unknown: greatest threat now
homegrown terrorist or
10:39
foreign terrorism? I think it's
probably a little bit of both, I
10:42
think we have to make sure that
we are assessing the risk for
10:45
both of those as well as any
other type of threat that may
10:48
come at us whether it's a lone
gunman, you know, an organized
10:51
attack or an organized group. So
we tried to cover off on that,
10:54
and
10:54
how does the current divisions
in the country that the extreme
10:58
political polarization, how does
that feed in to the threat
11:02
environment?
11:02
I think it plays into it. I
think that the environment that
11:05
we're dealing with today is
certainly different than it was
11:07
four years ago. I'm sure we'll
see an evolution in the next
11:10
four years as well. But it is
definitely something that we
11:13
take into consideration.
11:14
Are there any specific and
credible threats out there right
11:16
now.
11:16
So there's nothing specific and
nothing credible out there right
11:19
now. But we are tracking all
threat streams, and we certainly
11:22
work with our partners at the
FBI and other intelligence
11:24
agencies that supply that
information to us.
11:28
Adam Curry: No credible threats.
Nothing to worry about.
11:31
Everything's good.
11:33
John C Dvorak: That was yeah,
that was a useless interview, to
11:36
say the least.
11:37
Adam Curry: I was just to get
the threat part out there. But
11:39
well, let's
11:40
John C Dvorak: go do the threat
party here. Let's play this
11:42
super cut. I got a couple of
them here. This is the kind of
11:47
the negative stuff that was
going on. Let's start with the
11:51
old supercut of threats. This,
most of these are from
11:54
2015 2016. But there there's end
later and during the Trump
11:58
administration, but they still
they're still valid.
12:02
Unknown: I just don't even know
why there aren't uprisings all
12:05
over the country, and maybe
there will be
12:07
people need to start taking to
the streets. This is a dictator.
12:11
You know, there needs to be
unrest in the streets for as
12:13
long as there's unrest in our
lives. enemies
12:15
of the state.
12:17
Show me where it says The
12:18
protests are supposed to be
polite, and peaceful.
12:21
Do something about your dad's
immigration practices you
12:24
feckless may go low.
12:26
We had to
12:27
resist the temptation to run up
and wring her neck biggest
12:30
terror threat in this country is
Whiteman. Most of them
12:34
radicalized right up to the
right.
12:36
I thought he should have punched
him in the face. Even if he lost
12:39
He insulted your wife. Yes, but
are called Mexicans rapists and
12:42
murderers.
12:43
He's what do you think?
12:44
I think you should punch him in
the face and
12:45
then gotten out of the race, you
12:46
would have been a hero.
12:47
I'd like to punch him in the
face. I said we're in high
12:50
school, I'd take him behind the
gym and beat the hell out and
12:52
punch
12:53
some people in the face.
12:55
When was the last time an actor
assassinated a president,
12:58
they're
12:59
still going to have to go out
13:00
and put a bullet in Donald
Trump.
13:01
And that's the fact is his
character is stabbed to death.
13:05
Where is John
13:06
Wilkes Booth when you need it?
13:11
I have thought an awful
13:13
lot about blowing up the
13:15
White House. And
13:17
Missouri State Senator is under
investigation by the Secret
13:20
Service after saying she hopes
President Trump is assassinated.
13:24
I will go and take
13:26
Trump out tonight. And if you
see anybody done that cabinet,
13:30
in a restaurant
13:34
or gasoline station?
13:47
Adam Curry: Wow, that's good.
Where did you get that from?
13:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was
floating around was that I think
13:51
they had no it was the RNC who
put that together, but it was.
13:55
Wow. Then we have from November
23 is November 23. Clip. This is
14:00
from late last year on the
Pisarski show Dan Goleman saying
14:06
the following.
14:07
Unknown: But his rhetoric is
really getting dangerous, more
14:11
and more dangerous. And we saw
what happened on January 6, when
14:15
he uses inflammatory rhetoric
now. And his recent true social
14:19
post is incredibly, incredibly
scary for anyone that might be
14:26
trying to work in government.
And it is just unquestionable at
14:32
this point that that man cannot
see public office again, he is
14:37
not only unfit, he is
destructive to our democracy.
14:42
And he has to be he has to be
eliminated.
14:46
Adam Curry: Man. You know, I
think throughout the past couple
14:52
of years at least we've always
said that you know, this is not
14:55
good, and I think we even got a
little desensitized to it. It
14:59
just so you Stuart, you just so
used to laughing it off? Yeah,
15:03
John C Dvorak: most of it, by
the way stems from MSNBC. Rachel
15:07
Maddow. John Heilemann is the
guy in that previous clip who
15:11
somebody put up as your buddy.
You should put a bullet in
15:15
Trump's head that he did that on
MSN. That's an MSNBC guy. Yeah.
15:19
I think the guys that that's
directly responsible for the
15:22
shooting, if I was going to
point the finger at anybody, I'd
15:25
say as Brian L. Roberts, the CEO
of Comcast who put together this
15:32
guy is a bad actor. Yeah.
15:35
Adam Curry: There were a couple
of prominent people. Who also
15:39
it's, I mean, we'll just we'll
go through a couple of these
15:42
now, just so we can get the lay
of the land, but one most
15:44
recently is Lea Delaria. You
familiar with Lea? Delaria?
15:49
She's an actress, slash
comedian. Huh, let me see
15:56
somewhere I have her have her
bio, but she's been a you know,
16:00
a number of shows. And she did
this. And I actually, I think I
16:05
decided not to clip it a couple
like two weeks ago. It was like,
16:08
Yeah, whatever, more of that.
But now it's more relevant than
16:11
ever. And she's just looking at
the camera with a very, very
16:14
angry like, that's an accurate
description.
16:19
Unknown: I'm done.
16:21
Fucking seriously. Done.
16:27
The Supreme Court
16:30
has pissed me off so much right
now. Like, so much. Joe.
16:40
You're a reasonable man.
16:42
You don't want to do this. But
here's the reality. This is a
16:46
fucking war. This is war now.
And we are fighting for our
16:50
fucking country. And these
assholes are going to take it
16:54
away.
16:55
They're going to take it away.
16:56
Fuck you clearance
16:57
Uncle Thomas.
16:59
Fuck you, Joe.
17:02
You now have the right
17:04
to take that bitch Trump out.
Take
17:07
him out Joe. If he was Hitler,
and this was 1940. You take him
17:12
out? Well, he is Hitler. And
this is 1940. Take him
17:18
the fuck out. Blow him up.
17:24
blow him up. Or
17:25
they'll blow us up.
17:27
Adam Curry: Oh, just beautiful.
This show nice. There was
17:33
there's a lot of those. But you
know, what's kind of interesting
17:35
about this? Is that now
comparing him to Trump to Hitler
17:41
and Mussolini, Mussolini, that
can no longer be done. I mean,
17:46
that's going to get called out
by everybody. Wouldn't you say?
17:50
John C Dvorak: I have to agree.
So I think there's but here's
17:54
another one of these in the same
series who as we get these other
17:56
way, this is Biden on Friday,
seven seconds. Most
18:00
Unknown: importantly, I mean,
it's in the bottom art. Trump is
18:04
a threat to this nation.
18:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it from
the bottom of my heart
18:10
Adam Curry: or my heart most
most importantly, there was
18:13
another one there was, was it.
Claire McCaskill, this, she used
18:18
to be a Senator, this is another
MSNBC this this was this is very
18:22
typical, like a minute rant
from, from someone on MSNBC. A
18:27
Unknown: lot of people would try
to draw similarities between
18:30
Mussolini and Hitler and the use
of the terminology like vermin.
18:35
And the drive that those men had
towards autocracy and, and
18:41
dictatorship. The difference,
though, I think, makes Donald
18:45
Trump even more dangerous. And
that is he has no philosophy he
18:49
believes in, he is not trying to
expand the boundaries of the
18:53
United States of America. He's
not trying to overcome a
18:55
neighboring country like Putin
is in Ukraine, he is not going
18:59
to some grandiose scheme of
international dominance. All he
19:03
wants is to look in the mirror
and see a guy who's president,
19:08
all he cares about is selfish
self promotion. That's the only
19:13
philosophy he has, which makes
it even more dangerous, because
19:17
he has actually said out loud
that it would be okay to
19:20
terminate the constitution to
keep him in power. He said this,
19:25
he actually said those words.
And the irony is all of these
19:30
supposedly conservative folks
that have populated the
19:34
Republican Party all stood
around and with their thumb in
19:38
their mouth going well, yeah,
okay. I guess so. It's It's
19:42
bizarre.
19:45
Adam Curry: You know, again,
it's like I feel like in a way
19:48
everybody's kind of failed
because it's like climate change
19:52
you know, it's like Oh, haha,
climate change. Whatever Stupid
19:55
idiot don't believe in it. But
all we the D sensitive D sense.
20:00
ties ation towards this type of
rhetoric is of course, a problem
20:08
and I have another example now
this this was a this kind of
20:13
sums up all the all the
different lies that are just
20:18
taken for for truth by people
because I mean it'll because
20:22
it's on on MSNBC or when you're
some, I guess something that
20:29
people find is factual and
trustworthy even though we know
20:34
none of it is and this what this
is this it seems like she has
20:39
grayish silver hair I don't know
I don't think she's probably in
20:42
her 40s she's a she's on Tik
Tok. And I've seen her before
20:47
she's she's actually has
reasonable audio and has pretty
20:51
good diction. So it was worth
it's long, but we can stop at
20:54
anywhere. But it's it's
interesting how she just brings
20:58
back all these things that are
just factually not true. And
21:03
wraps them all up. Well, folks,
21:05
Unknown: I tried. I really did.
I managed to squeeze out some
21:08
genuine empathy for Orange. And
I thought I did a pretty good
21:11
job. And then I made the mistake
of looking at Elon x and I
21:15
remembered why the right is not
compatible with empathy. And
21:18
then I remembered Paul Pelosi
getting hit over the head with a
21:21
hammer and mocked by
Schlumberger and company. I
21:23
remembered the image of bound
gagged and hogtied Joe Biden
21:27
that Trump had tweeted to the
world. I remembered the
21:29
assassination threats against
Michigan Governor Gretchen
21:32
Whitmer.
21:34
Adam Curry: I find this
interesting because she is
21:35
making a summation of things
that you know had been named and
21:39
have been you know that also
everyone's desensitized to this,
21:43
you know that no one's a real
winner in this, you know, the in
21:46
this back and forth of who was
worse Trump or Biden, or who do
21:51
we need to get rid of,
21:52
Unknown: and how one in six
election officials have
21:54
experienced threats because of
their job, ranging from death
21:58
threats, that means officials
young children to racist and
22:02
gendered harassment by the
right, I remembered MTG calling
22:06
for the execution of Barack
Obama.
22:08
And do you remember that?
22:10
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
all this stuff that she's saying
22:12
are just blatant lies.
22:13
Adam Curry: I don't remember
that either. Oh, ghosts
22:15
Unknown: are posting an animated
video depicting him analyzing
22:18
AOC I remembered the far rights
violence against minority
22:21
communities in Charleston,
Pittsburgh, El Paso, buffalo,
22:24
Jacksonville, et cetera, et
cetera.
22:28
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah. Oh, yes,
the racist cetera.
22:31
Unknown: I remembered Trump
calling for people at his
22:33
rallies to be harmed and how he
wanted to shoot protesters in
22:37
the legs. And of course, I
remembered January 6, and how
22:41
all our lawmakers lives were in
grave danger. Capitol Police
22:45
were pummeled and traumatized
for Trump's adrenaline rush of
22:48
vengeance for a country that
kicked him to the curb. You
22:50
could see
22:51
Adam Curry: you can see where
someone gets really wound up and
22:54
spun up if if if this if they're
consuming all this and taking it
22:59
in as fact and as scary and so
she's kind of okay with what
23:04
happened. I
23:05
Unknown: remembered eg women who
faced violence at Trump's own
23:09
hands
23:10
Adam Curry: 1000s of women who
faced violence at Trump's own
23:13
hands
23:14
Unknown: and then I caught wind
of JD Vance. And all the want to
23:17
be up trumps as peanut gallery
23:19
John C Dvorak: stuff. You said
this sounds so no, I know it's
23:25
in and out of phase. barely
understand what she's saying. I
23:29
don't hear the enunciation. You
are bragging
23:31
Adam Curry: was not bragging
about it. But this is actually
23:33
better than most Tik Tok clips.
But you're right. Anything else
23:36
you want to complain about? You
know,
23:37
John C Dvorak: I just wanted to
let you know. analysis was
23:40
lacking.
23:43
Adam Curry: Hey, don't worry.
I'll do the same to you later,
23:45
Unknown: I can speak to
President Trump's attempted
23:50
assassination. And
Representative Mike Collins
23:53
going one step further claiming
Biden set the orders. I
23:57
remembered lock her up and Knock
the crap out of them and good
24:00
people on both sides. And when
the looting starts, shooting
24:03
starts and stand back and
standby. And I remember that
24:07
between 2013 and 2022 75% of
murders committed by extremists
24:13
were caused by right wing
extremists.
24:15
Adam Curry: Okay. Now we're
getting a little off track but
24:19
only
24:20
Unknown: caused by left wing
extremists Of course I don't
24:23
advocate celebrate or condone
violence. That's what the other
24:26
side does. But I draw the line
at feeling compassion for a man
24:29
who we all know would be making
a joke about the shooter having
24:33
poor aim is this had happened to
Joe Biden, um, which by
24:36
Adam Curry: the way, was quite
quite a thing. I mean, right
24:38
away. And it was kind of on both
sides like hey, you missed and
24:43
on the other Oh, I can't believe
he missed I mean, this is a very
24:47
very sick and troublesome
culture wherein not
24:50
Unknown: gonna go down the road
with all the conspiracy
24:51
theorists that his security team
is so incompetent and for the
24:56
life of me, I don't understand
how a man who was just shut out
25:00
was able to stick his head above
the Secret Service human shield
25:02
that was huddled around him
right after the shooting. So we
25:05
can fist pump the air and
encourage his voters to fight.
25:09
Adam Curry: So that's kind of
the it was a setup by Trump. I
25:13
mean, oh, yeah set up,
25:15
John C Dvorak: you know,
Democrats, these Democrats
25:18
should look in the mirror. They
shot Reagan. They shot at him
25:23
almost hit Gerald Ford. These
are all Republicans are getting
25:26
shot at Steve Scalise and 12
other Republicans there was an
25:30
assassination attempt on them
and Scalise was almost killed
25:34
and now we have this I don't you
know, this is just, you know,
25:37
these Gunny hating Democrats
shooting at Republicans left and
25:41
right needs to do they need to
look in the mirror is the folks
25:45
who
25:45
Unknown: are supposed to be
experts at protecting the
25:47
President's noggin would have
been a little uncomfortable with
25:50
giving the shooter a second
chance of blowing it to
25:52
smithereens, folks, I think we
all know what's in store for us.
25:56
We're going to the biggest
misuse of martyrdom there ever
25:59
was. We're gonna see mediocre
men marinating in victimhood,
26:03
tossing out thinly veiled calls
for retribution and dog whistle
26:06
after dog whistle for mega
minions to avenge the radical
26:09
left Joe Biden will be painted
as a cutting force of evil at
26:13
least when he can remember where
he is and when to take his
26:15
Alzheimers meds. It's gonna be
torture, absolute frickin
26:19
torture. And instead of talking
about the corroborated testimony
26:23
of young girls who were
allegedly violated at the hands
26:26
of the depraved sociopath who
happens to be the Republican
26:28
nominee, we're gonna hear about
a cult leader victim, who
26:32
bravely gave the tip of his ear
to say racism everywhere. Yeah,
26:36
well, all I can say is I'm gonna
be sure to remember all the
26:39
folks who feared for their
safety because of orangey and
26:42
Imperva, Licious Polonius,
Schlumberger, MFIs, thin skinned
26:44
rhetoric over the years, and I'm
gonna remind the bad actors that
26:48
malevolent men don't get to turn
victimhood into victory.
26:51
Adam Curry: Mm hmm. So that's
what we're dealing with. This is
26:57
cultural, this is spiritual. I
really hope that people will
27:02
tone it down on all sides of
this. And actually, if I were
27:06
consulting Trump, here's what
I'd say I'd say, you know,
27:12
because of course the
expectation is, you know, I'm a
27:14
martyr I don't even know if he's
gonna go that far. I would say
27:20
first go to the family of those
wounded and killed and then I
27:27
think he should go and he should
visit the parents of the shooter
27:32
John C Dvorak: that's what he
should do he may actually do
27:34
that God's litter without your
advice. That's definitely Oh,
27:38
take care take care of the
family that got the guy got
27:41
killed. Yeah, I mean, this will
do so let's get into the I have
27:46
a series of clips from France 24
that I picked up this morning.
27:53
So they're kind of objective and
kind of an essay kind of
27:59
objective and kind of new,
including one clip which I
28:05
guarantee you didn't you never
heard about. Okay. This is the
28:09
shot analysis series. And there
is where you can start with shot
28:20
analysis. But first to play this
French 24 Shoot rap Crux BS.
28:28
Adam Curry: Shoot got in rap got
it.
28:30
Unknown: ABC is reporting up
this rifle that's the shooter
28:33
had was legally purchased by the
shooters father, no knowledge of
28:38
how he got into possession of
the weapon or from his father,
28:41
it must be said, and the motive
for the shooting, also not
28:45
uncovered by the FBI yet. They
have discovered through state
28:48
records that the 20 year old was
a registered Republican.
28:52
However, when he was 17, he made
a $15 donation to a progressive
28:56
political action committee on
the day that Joe Biden was
28:59
inaugurated into office. So his
political leanings not really
29:02
understood there. And the FBI is
now investigating as to how this
29:08
attempted assassination could
have taken place and what the
29:11
motives were. Wow, they
29:12
Adam Curry: have more
information than media here in
29:14
the States. I hadn't heard that.
Yeah, I know. It's funny. It's
29:18
unbelievable. Notice, by the
way, very, very little about the
29:24
shooter. And of course, he has,
you know, three names always
29:27
good.
29:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the three
name phenomenon is back, Thomas
29:31
Adam Curry: Matthew crooks being
called Thomas and Matthew is
29:37
kind of interesting to me, but
was two of the apostles, Thomas
29:42
and Matthew has probably got to
wonder about his family. Well,
29:47
you
29:47
John C Dvorak: know, there you
go. So let's go to shot
29:50
analysis, F 24.
29:53
Unknown: And as you asked, How
could this have happened? I
29:55
mean, given the usually ironclad
security around these sorts of
29:58
events, well, it's
29:59
the one who goes to these kinds
of events somewhat regularly. It
30:02
is kind of fascinating to me
that something like this kind of
30:06
happens. Now, it must be said,
The shooting took place from
30:09
outside of the security cordon
around the venue, so he hadn't
30:13
managed to get this weapon
inside the venue. But I think
30:16
that also raises even more
questions because that means
30:19
that there was an unsecured roof
with a direct line of sight to
30:23
the stage where the former
President was talking within 150
30:27
meters of that stage. Now, that
is important, because for
30:32
reference 150 meters is the
distance that an Army soldier
30:35
needs to be able to shoot a
human sized target ads within
30:39
with an M 16 rifle in order to
pass their training. The AR 15
30:44
Is the civilian version of that
m 16. Rifle. So the fact that
30:48
this roof was within that
distance and not secured by the
30:50
Secret Service, really is quite,
it's quite mesmerizing, and has
30:55
led a lot of people to believe
that there was a lapse in
30:58
security here. So there will be
investigations. We know that the
31:02
House Oversight Committee has
asked the head of the Secret
31:05
Service invited them to come and
talk to to the panel to see how
31:10
this could have happened. Yeah,
that'll
31:11
Adam Curry: be some nice
talking. I will just be chatting
31:13
with you.
31:15
Unknown: That is the question on
everybody's lips at the moments
31:17
How could something that seems
so obvious have been have been,
31:21
have been overlooked. The
counter snipers that were at the
31:24
rally spotters, this shooter and
it did neutralize the threat
31:30
within three seconds of those
shots being fired. So a quick
31:34
response by the counter snipers,
but questions as to how he got
31:38
on that roof with the gun in the
first place still abound.
31:41
Adam Curry: So just just from
from what we know now, it seems
31:46
like that roof was an obvious an
obvious problem. It seems like
31:50
there was understaffing there's
all kinds of reporting that they
31:54
had asked that the Secret
Service had asked for more team
31:57
members they were denied. We'll
find out I guess in the in the
32:02
in the chat they're going to
have in the house this morning.
32:07
And now this is from 4chan. So
take it for what it is. There
32:11
was a statement posted for one
of the one of the one of
32:17
Hawkeye, that's the the counter
attack team. And then I'll read
32:22
it. For what it's worth. My name
is Jonathan Willis. I am the
32:26
officer in the famous photo of
the two snipers on the roof of
32:29
Trump's rally. I came here to
inform the public that I had the
32:33
assassin in my sights for at
least three minutes, but the
32:36
head of the Secret Service
refused to give the order to
32:39
take out the perp 100% The top
brass prevented me from killing
32:43
the assassin before he took the
shots at President Trump. I
32:47
didn't follow the orders though.
As soon as the shooter opened on
32:49
Trump I returned fire despite
strict orders to not engage. I
32:53
had eyes on the shooter for
three minutes watching him
32:55
fiddle with his rifle, adjust
the scope, it was obvious he was
32:59
a shooter. Yet I was not allowed
to engage after I killed the
33:02
shooter. I was arrested,
questioned by the FBI and just
33:06
released an hour ago, I already
lost my job for not following
33:09
orders. But I'm glad I took the
shots anyway. I don't know if
33:13
it's true. But interesting. If
if something like that turns out
33:18
John C Dvorak: well, this whole
FBI operation in Pittsburgh
33:21
which is taking the lead on this
is the same group that's that
33:24
had Hunter Biden's laptop the
whole time. Oh, really. That's
33:29
my understanding. That's the
group that's the group that
33:31
would handle Delaware. And that
case so that so this group in
33:36
Pittsburgh, at least if you read
enough of it about it, you know
33:39
this could be bullshit too. But
if you read enough about it, it
33:42
seems as though this is a bunch
of bad actors. Well,
33:45
Adam Curry: here's what we know
about the FBI and the six week
33:48
cycle which we followed for well
over a decade. The the typical
33:53
process and this I think a lot
of the Department of Justice is
33:55
like this but the FBI
specifically what they love to
33:59
do is find some weak brother
online who's either either
34:03
talking Allah Akbar I'm gonna go
shoot the shoot everything
34:07
fatwa. Or, you know, I'm going
to shoot the president and
34:12
they'd like to hype him up and
get them all jacked and then you
34:15
know, get them the phony
detonator or something else and
34:19
then take them out or arrest him
and as always a him and and then
34:23
claim victory and look we're so
great our budgets are justified
34:27
so it's very possible and we've
how many times we've read this
34:30
over and over again on the
report Special Agent undercover
34:33
human you know, special, special
agent who acted undercover and
34:39
had long hair months long
discussion seems like pretty
34:42
easy to do with a with a 20 year
old.
34:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, especially
Yes. Especially if you look at
34:49
the guy, although I do have the
well I want to skip to that. But
34:53
let's go to the second part of
this shot analysis on
34:59
Unknown: Washington of course.
On and Fraser Dyson, thank you
35:01
so much for that update. Well,
I'm also joined on set by our
35:04
international affairs editor
caravan. Gorgeous, stunning.
35:06
Thank you demand. You are also
our former Washington
35:10
correspondent. So you've seen
the security measures that are
35:13
taken firsthand. Can you bounce
off what Fraser said and give us
35:16
tell us a bit about your first
hand experience? Yes,
35:19
well, as Fraser said, these are
some very secure event, when you
35:23
go to one of these rallies where
whether it's for a sitting
35:28
president or a presidential
candidate, there are a big
35:31
layers of security. And to make
things simple, there is
35:35
basically a three rings of
security around someone like
35:39
Donald Trump, the initial, a
very close range security
35:43
perimeter, which is secured by
the Secret Service agents that
35:47
you see in that pictures, the
men in the suits the women in
35:51
the suits, they're around him,
then there's the second layer of
35:53
security, that's the perimeter
with the barriers that you need
35:57
to be checked before you enter.
And so when you're talking about
36:01
a rally like this, it's the
people who are going to that
36:05
rally the supporters but also
people like us, the media, we
36:09
get screened, we go through a
metal detectors or bags are
36:12
open, they're sniffed by dogs. I
mean, there is heavy, heavy
36:15
security. What we're talking
about here where the shooter
36:18
was, is that third sort of
perimeter of a security and if
36:22
you talk to Secret Service
agents, law enforcement agents,
36:26
everyone will tell you that
there is an advanced a team with
36:30
the campaign and the law
enforcement that go to this area
36:34
and decide where that stage is
going to be. And then law
36:38
enforcement Secret Service, need
to secure everything around and
36:42
Fraser was talking about the
fact that this roof had a direct
36:45
line of sight to that podium,
and that is the question.
36:52
Adam Curry: Yeah. drones were
the drones that everyone's
36:57
gotten to drones, everyone's got
a drone, no drone,
37:00
John C Dvorak: no drone, no
drone. Let's move right to clip
37:03
three. And then we get to the
the weird clip.
37:06
Unknown: There's one question
about how did someone gets to
37:10
that roof? How was that roof not
secured? Even though there was a
37:13
direct line of sight? That could
be a potentially a question for
37:18
Secret Service and for that
advanced preparation. The other
37:22
question, which is several
experts have been pointing to is
37:26
the potential lack of
communication or wrong
37:29
communication between local law
enforcement and the Secret
37:33
Service when they first spotted
when people started spotting
37:36
someone and something that was
wrong on that roof? Why was that
37:40
not communicated faster? And why
did they not take immediate
37:44
action or more immediate action
than was taken? So still a lot
37:48
of question as Fraser said about
how we got there, and then how
37:53
that communication between the
different law enforcement
37:56
agencies maybe broke down.
38:02
John C Dvorak: So that brings us
of course, to the witnesses that
38:05
saw the guy up there and kept
trying to draw attention to him.
38:09
There's two of those.
38:11
Adam Curry: I haven't I have the
the BBC sequence which appeared
38:15
pretty quickly and first it
appeared you know, somebody
38:18
videoed it off the BBC indirect
sound. I'm going to actually
38:22
redeem myself for the sound
earlier
38:24
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's good.
You know, I have to copy I had I
38:27
got that early one that you that
you must have fixed Well,
38:32
listen, but there was a later
when they came out that was that
38:35
was clean. Yeah, this
38:36
Adam Curry: and this is the full
it's an I have a cut up in a
38:40
couple of different clips. This
is worth listening to. This is
38:43
the the BBC is on the ground.
And they had they had a guy, it
38:48
was kind of it was kind of
funny. You know, the BBC clearly
38:51
that, you know, some guy was
like, hey, hey, you. You go
38:55
follow Trump. It's like, it's
like the punishment bench over
38:58
at BBC. Oh, now I gotta go on.
All right. I'll go follow the
39:02
campaign. I'll go, I'll go to
the rallies. And this guy fell,
39:07
as we say with his nose in the
butter.
39:08
Unknown: Donald Trump was at a
US election rally in
39:11
Pennsylvania. When gunfire was
heard from the crowd. And the
39:14
former president was bundled off
the stage by security officials.
39:18
He raised a fist to his
supporters before being taken
39:21
away in a car. What appeared to
be blood was seen on Mr. Trump's
39:25
ear. He was criticizing
President Biden when the
39:29
incident happened.
39:30
Adam Curry: Wow. He was talking
about immigration had a big
39:34
chart up on the screen. But by
the way, I found the BBC France
39:38
24. Their reporting was superior
to our own reporting. It was
39:41
amazing. It was an amazing
39:43
Unknown: worst president in the
history of our country took over
39:46
and look what happened to our
country. Probably 20 million
39:50
people. And you know, that's a
little bit old. That chart that
39:55
charts a couple of months old,
and if you want to really see
39:58
something that said take Look
what happened
40:06
Our correspondent Gary
O'Donoghue was at the rally and
40:09
spoke to this eyewitness detail
where
40:11
the shooting was coming from.
Because he was coming from
40:15
outside.
40:15
I think it was like one of these
buildings back here. Right.
40:19
So you think he was coming from
higher up possibly behind the
40:21
fence? Okay, and what was the
atmosphere like in the crowd at
40:25
that moment when it started?
Panic that people started
40:29
running? Yeah. Right.
40:31
tripping over each other and
yeah,
40:33
yeah.
40:34
And do you know, did the police
move in pretty quickly?
40:37
From what I saw? Yeah, there
were police officers in the
40:41
field like right beyond the
fence and they took off
40:43
immediately. Now
40:45
Adam Curry: let's jack up the
rhetoric a little bit here. BBC,
40:47
it was
40:48
Unknown: about 10 minutes into
Donald Trump's speech and he was
40:51
talking about immigration and
and then we heard we were
40:54
actually live on air at the
time. And we we were talking to
40:58
our colleagues at the BBC World
Service and we we heard the
41:00
shots. I heard maybe six or
eight it sounds like from that
41:04
film you've just played there
may have been more but certainly
41:07
six or eight in rapid
succession. We we hit the dirt
41:11
we hit the deck because we had
no idea where the where the
41:15
shooting was coming.
41:16
Adam Curry: Right we we is a big
word. It was him. This is
41:20
pictures of him in the literally
buried in the dirt.
41:23
Unknown: And now since then,
people have been streaming out
41:25
of the event that the former
president was taken away quickly
41:28
surrounded by the Secret Service
and taken away immediately
41:32
reports of some blood on his ear
possibly him holding his ear. We
41:35
don't we don't know the detail.
When I when I've just spoken to
41:39
who said he was 50 feet from the
former president. He said when
41:43
the shooting started, a speaker
fell and it's not clear whether
41:47
that was on stage of fell into
the crowd. He said he saw one
41:50
person being put in to an
ambulance. He said there was
41:54
panic, people hit the dirt
people started screaming.
41:58
Another eyewitness I said so I
spoke to said there'd been a lot
42:02
of panic in the crowd. As you
can imagine. I have to say the
42:04
emotions are extraordinary here.
I'm going to, I'm going to say
42:08
something now, which will be
shocking. Here we go. But I
42:10
think it's worth knowing. So
please prepare yourself for
42:13
this. Just a moment ago, a guy
walked past and said they fired
42:18
first. This is war.
42:21
Adam Curry: That's too bad. He
wasn't recording that as it's
42:23
Oh, yeah. So here comes the
redhead who everybody probably
42:27
Unknown: saw. We had a party
here all day at the Broncos
42:30
farming greenhouse here. And we
all decided, hey, you know, when
42:33
we hear Trump up there, we're
gonna walk up through the field.
42:37
Stand by the trees up there
under the shade. And watch the
42:40
rain. Listen to the rally.
Right? We couldn't see him, but
42:43
we could hear him. So we walked
up, and probably five to seven
42:49
minutes of Trump's speaking I'm
estimating here. I've no idea.
42:52
You know, but we noticed the guy
crawling arm, you know, bear
42:59
crawling up the roof of the
building beside us. 5050 feet
43:04
away from us. So we're standing
there, you know, we're pulling,
43:07
we're pulling that the guy
crawling up the roof. And he had
43:10
a gun. Right? He had a rifle.
Right? We could clearly see him
43:12
with a rifle. Absolutely. We're
pointing at him. The police are
43:17
down there running around on the
ground. We're like, Hey, man,
43:20
there's a guy on the roof with a
rifle. And the police were like,
43:24
oh, what you know, like, like,
they didn't know what was going
43:26
on. You know, we're like, hey,
right here on the roof. We can
43:29
see from right here. We see him.
You know, he's, he's growing.
43:33
And next thing you know, I'm
like, I'm thinking to myself,
43:36
I'm like, Why is Trump still
speaking? Why have they not
43:38
pulled him off the stage? I'm
standing there pointing at him
43:42
for you know, two or three
minutes, Secret Services looking
43:45
at us from the top of the barn.
I'm pointing at that roof, just
43:49
standing there like this. And
next thing, you know, five shots
43:53
ring out
43:53
for your your son. shots came
from that guy on the right
43:57
100% 100%.
43:59
Adam Curry: So that I think is
what most people saw. But the
44:01
interview definitely went
longer.
44:03
Unknown: We had a party here all
day. Sorry, this one.
44:05
It was about 10 minutes into
Donald Trump's speech. And he
44:08
was talking about immigration
and and then we heard we were
44:12
actually live on air at the
time. And we we were talking to
44:15
our colleagues at the BBC World
Service. And we we heard
44:19
Adam Curry: played this already
that that work and we try this.
44:22
Unknown: And he he was up there
for a couple of minutes. Up
44:25
there for a couple of minutes.
Absolutely. At least three or
44:27
four minutes. And you were
telling you at least in the
44:29
secrets. We were telling the
police we were pointing at him
44:32
for the Secret Service who were
looking at us from the top of
44:34
the barn. They were looking at
us the whole time and we were
44:36
standing by that tree. Could
they use binoculars? They see
44:40
probably not because the roof
the way the slope when he was
44:43
behind where they could see. But
But why is there not secret
44:47
service on all of these roofs
here? I mean, this is not a big
44:50
place.
44:51
Did you see I mean obviously
everyone when the shooting
44:54
started, everyone was very
panicked. You're pretty sure
44:57
they shot the guy Absolutely.
100% Okay, yep. You saw that
45:00
happen? Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah.
And did you go up to him
45:04
afterwards? Or
45:06
they? Yeah, they crawled up on
the roof. They had their guns
45:09
pointed at him. Make sure he was
dead. He was dead. And that was
45:11
it. And she Oh,
45:13
John C Dvorak: that's been
edited. Well, he
45:15
Adam Curry: has here's the piece
that was cut out. Did
45:17
Unknown: you see? I mean,
obviously, everyone when the
45:19
shooting started, everyone was
very panicked. Did you see what
45:22
happened to him at all?
45:24
Oh, yeah. They blew his head
off. Okay, sorry. Secret
45:27
Service, please head on.
45:27
Okay, just be careful, because
we don't quite know who's
45:30
watching but you're pretty sure
they shot the
45:32
Adam Curry: guy was watching his
people who are interested in
45:34
what really happened. I'm sorry.
Absolutely. 100%. Okay.
45:38
John C Dvorak: Video. Leave the
guys comment in there. There was
45:41
a second witness. Well,
45:43
Adam Curry: I want to finish
this. Oh, there's more. Yeah.
45:45
Unknown: Yep. Yep. Okay.
45:47
Yeah. And you see them go to him
afterwards. Or they
45:51
Yeah, they crawled up on the
roof. They had their guns
45:54
pointed at him. Make sure he was
dead. He was dead. And that was
45:56
it. It was over.
45:58
It's incredibly shot. The
45:59
guy was on the roof right there.
You can see the white roof.
46:03
Right there. You can look at
him, could you I know. Other
46:06
than he was in muted colors, tan
tight clothing. We saw the rifle
46:12
flinging around as he was trying
to crow. I mean, we saw the
46:15
rifle 100%
46:17
I mean, do you know about guns?
Do you know what kind of weapon
46:19
it was? Oh,
46:19
absolutely know about guns for
sure. Yeah, I mean, there is a
46:22
rifle of some sort. I wouldn't
know. You know, I wasn't close
46:24
enough to read the label on it.
But it was it was a rifle of
46:28
some sort. Yeah, absolutely. So
46:32
what do you how do you process
what you've just seen?
46:36
I don't know what to say man.
I'll tell you is you know if I
46:42
if I walked up close to there
with anything that can seek your
46:46
service considered a problem? I
wouldn't be standing here
46:49
talking to you right now. But I
don't know why a guy who were
46:52
standing there pointing now to
police and Secret Service is
46:56
crawling up the roof. All right.
47:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
could have been tighter by the
47:02
by the correspondent who they
then they go back and they cut
47:06
out one thing and the whole
thing is loose as a goose it's
47:09
very poorly done by the BBC.
47:12
Adam Curry: Surprise, surprise
BBC.
47:14
John C Dvorak: So this is
another witness which showed up
47:19
on this one showed up on CBS.
And this is the is shooting
47:25
second witness to see shooter.
poorly worded clip number name.
47:31
I don't know if you knew her
this probably not. It sure it
47:35
was showed up on the live feed
and then disappeared.
47:38
Unknown: I am told that our CBS
colleague from KD K Jennifer
47:42
Barrasso is on the line right
now. She is outside the scene of
47:47
the rally. Jennifer Hi there.
47:49
So I have a witness right now.
He had just showed up at the
47:53
Trump rally just a short time
before it started. And he
47:56
actually tells me that he saw
the shooter on the building and
48:00
his name is Benjamin Macer.
Thank you so much for staying
48:03
around. Just take me back. What
were you doing before the
48:06
shooting happened? And then what
did you see in here?
48:09
I was just hanging and standing
there like everybody else
48:12
waiting for Trump. And we as
Trump started, we I noticed two
48:18
officers that were looking for
something or somebody it was. So
48:22
I was looking around myself and
seeing a guy on top of one of
48:26
the buildings go in between one
building to the next and went
48:32
and told the officer that he was
up there. When I went back to my
48:37
spot, I heard that people could
still see the the person from
48:41
where they were standing. So I
checked that out. And I went
48:45
went back to tell the officer
that if he came over there, he
48:48
could see them. And when I
turned my backs when the shots
48:52
when the shots started, and then
it was that took me a second or
48:56
two to figure out exactly what
it was. And then it was just
49:00
getting out of there and helping
helping some some other person
49:05
now with her child, and we got
out and that was that was the
49:09
end of that. I went left. That
was all
49:17
John C Dvorak: so this wasn't
like a big secret. What do you
49:21
mean? Well, I mean, people saw
this guy. Oh, yeah. You have to
49:26
assume there's others and nobody
did anything. And then of
49:28
course, is that sketchy report
from Fortune, which I didn't
49:31
know about which is sounds
sounds credible, unfortunately.
49:36
Yeah.
49:38
Adam Curry: I mean, we're so
early. I mean, it didn't usually
49:40
these things happen on a show
day so we can do nothing. And
49:43
then we have a couple of days to
meet me about that. And, and
49:46
that was like we really needed
an extra day because we don't
49:49
know anything about about the
shooter. You know, just, you
49:54
know, there's a couple of like
graduation videos, some weird
49:58
video in your car. He's
49:59
John C Dvorak: gonna go
commercial commercial. Yeah.
50:01
Which
50:02
Adam Curry: immediately like,
oh, was he an actor? You know,
50:05
there's there's so much unknown,
but I think as long as we can
50:09
all first of all, sadly, this
didn't end well, for some people
50:13
in the crowd. You know that
that's the thing. You know,
50:17
that's the thing we've got to
remember here. But we will. But
50:22
right now, this is this is a
very very crapped time for
50:26
America, I don't like it.
50:29
John C Dvorak: Well, this woman
who is running the Secret
50:31
Service should have resigned
immediately after that death of
50:34
the bystander, and then the
wounding of the President, I
50:38
don't understand why she just
immediately wishes what Bungie
50:42
knows and others have been
asking for. He's not the only
50:44
one, that this is one of those
things where you have to, you're
50:48
responsible, you're the head of
the operation. I put in place,
50:52
of course, as a dei hired by my
Orca, but you get in there at
50:56
you have you just have to quit.
I mean, it's just what you do.
50:59
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree.
She should
51:01
John C Dvorak: have resigned
immediately. And she's not going
51:04
to resign, I can assure you, and
she's going to get into an
51:07
argument with Congress, and
she's going to stick around is
51:10
going to be one of those
situations where you have
51:13
incompetent people running
things, even though they She
51:15
sounds, she sounds like you
know, not unusual for a
51:20
bureaucrat, but she should
resign. And then somebody has to
51:25
investigate what, what was
wrong. I didn't because I you
51:29
know, they, they showed this,
suppose he's brought this guy
51:32
down within three seconds of him
taking shots, which adds some
51:35
credibility to that fortune
note. Yeah.
51:38
Adam Curry: Well, I mean, we saw
the video we see the guy you see
51:41
him walking. Yeah. But when he
says when he says the head of
51:44
the Secret Service wouldn't let
me take the shot. Who is that?
51:47
Is that someone who's in charge
on the scene? Or is he going
51:51
back to HQ? Now, there's
51:54
John C Dvorak: got to be
somebody on the scene. There's
51:55
got to be one supervisor that
would say yes or no, you
52:00
wouldn't call it a Washington DC
for that situation that's been
52:03
taped to ever? Who's going to
answer to get an answering
52:07
machine? Jill, Jill, Jill and
Joe. So it would be so there is
52:13
something fishy about the whole
thing. And I would fall back on?
52:19
Look, we're dealing with the
Biden crime family, which is
52:25
what it's always been called and
an assassination attempt on
52:28
Trump after trying to throw him
in jail through four different
52:32
jurisdictions and 90
indictments. It wouldn't
52:37
surprise me if the if act. I
know it sounds like completely
52:42
insane that anyone would be this
way. But I'm throwing the whole
52:45
thing at the White House.
52:47
Adam Curry: Oh, I put it I put
it all on Biden. Absolutely.
52:51
Absolutely. And, you know, the
coincidence of this happening.
52:59
Right after two mega gaffes in
the Big Boy press conference, by
53:04
Biden is not lost on me. Let's
just revisit quickly.
53:09
Unknown: And now I want to hand
it over to the President of
53:11
Ukraine, who has as much courage
as he has determination. Ladies
53:16
and gentlemen, President Putin.
You gonna beat President?
53:22
President Solinsky. I'm so
focused on being Putin, we got
53:26
to worry about it. Anyway. Mr.
President, I'm better. You are a
53:30
hell of a lot better.
53:32
Adam Curry: So that was one. And
then of course, the other big
53:35
one.
53:35
Unknown: It is first press
conference of the year President
53:38
Joe Biden fielded nearly an hour
of questions highlighting his
53:41
policies and political future.
Best
53:43
way to assure them is where I
assure myself and that is, am I
53:47
getting the job done?
53:48
The President first pressed on
whether vice president Kamala
53:51
Harris could be for her
President Trump in November.
53:54
Look, I wouldn't have picked
Vice President Trump to be vice
53:58
president. So I think she's not
qualified to be president. So
54:02
let's start there. Number one,
54:05
Trump weighed in live with a
post on social media reading,
54:08
quote, great job, Joe Biden
ignored the actual question
54:11
about how the VP would fare
against Trump only stressing
54:14
that she's qualified to be
president and offering praise.
54:17
She was
54:18
a first rate person. And in the
Senate, she was really good. I
54:22
wouldn't have picked her unless
I thought she was qualified to
54:24
be president.
54:25
Adam Curry: Now that was and
that I mean, that was definitely
54:28
news. I mean, everybody all the
news channels like oh, no, oh,
54:32
he couldn't do it. He could, you
know, I mean, I have a ton of
54:35
clips. We don't have to go there
right now.
54:38
John C Dvorak: The whole thing
was a disaster. But to have
54:41
Adam Curry: this happen right
after those mega gaffes and what
54:44
was supposed to be as we heard
the big boy the big boy
54:48
conference is not lost on me. So
the there's just no
54:55
coincidences. I just don't
believe in Him. We have a second
54:59
clip of that second shooting
witness you want to play that 22
55:02
seconds.
55:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Then I want
to get back to the French 24,
55:07
which has been the new
information which that you're
55:09
never going to hear in the
mainstream media. Yeah, play the
55:11
second half. It's not much to
it.
55:13
Unknown: So this man was able to
basically climb to the next
55:18
building. And you told law
enforcement. Hey, there's a guy
55:23
over there.
55:24
tracked? I don't know how he got
up there. I don't know. But I
55:28
definitely saw him up there. And
and that was, that was all I
55:34
know. All right.
55:37
John C Dvorak: So the final clip
on the French 24 series. And
55:42
this you will not use, for good
reason, probably. This will
55:47
never be explored on the
mainstream because it was, I was
55:51
taken aback by it. But it
doesn't surprise me this is a
55:54
shot analysis with an E at the
end of shot. This is the last
56:01
clip. And
56:02
Unknown: there were others like
Tim Scott, who also said that
56:04
the inflammatory rhetoric by
Democrats and their allies in
56:08
the media recklessly stoked and
fears and resulted in what
56:12
happened. And I mentioned this
part about the media. Because at
56:16
that rally, after Donald Trump
was taken off of that stage, the
56:19
crowd part of the crowd
immediately turned to the press
56:22
rise to the media and started
accusing the media saying it's
56:26
your fault. And some even tried
to break through the press
56:30
risers in which pushback by
security. So the likelihood that
56:34
this could get out of hand in
the coming months is possible.
56:38
The question is, where is this
going? Are people going to sort
56:41
of try to tamp things down? Or
are we going to see more
56:45
possible acts of violence down
the road towards November? Well,
56:49
Adam Curry: I interesting you
bring that up, because Sky News
56:51
in Australia had a similar take,
56:53
Unknown: speaking of Trump's
reaction in the moments after he
56:57
was shot, and as you said, you
know, he got to his feet. He he
57:00
raised his fist he said Fight,
fight fight. I don't know if you
57:03
saw but CNN actually criticized
his reaction, saying that was
57:07
entirely the wrong thing to do.
And all it did was to incite his
57:12
supporters, he should instead
have tried to calm things down.
57:16
I mean, how do you respond to
CNN with those sorts of
57:19
comments, even in the moments
after Trump was shot, I gotta
57:23
say, President company excluded
James Danika.
57:29
We don't hate the media enough,
certainly in America, however
57:32
much we hate the media, we do
not hate them enough.
57:36
There has been so much of that
already. Both sides of this, you
57:41
know, the reaction from
mainstream media, from CNN, from
57:44
MSNBC, the headlines, which are
trying to both sides and
57:50
attempted assassination of
Donald Trump, because they
57:54
cannot bear to allow their
audiences to know that he has
57:58
become a murderer. Thanks to
them.
58:02
It's really, really horrifying.
And I would expect for more and
58:04
more of this to come out there
were so many headlines that
58:06
refuse to even call it an
assassination attempt. You know,
58:09
as you guys were pointing out 10
minutes ago, you know, mostly
58:12
peaceful assassination attempts,
there's going to be a lot more
58:16
of this, the media always in
moments like this ends up with
58:18
an egg on its face because it is
so deeply partisan in America at
58:22
this point in favor of the
Democrats.
58:26
Adam Curry: A fine example of
that is CBS anchor, Margaret
58:31
Brennan's initial response to
the shooting and
58:34
Unknown: he closes with God
bless America. And we saw him
58:37
raise his hand in the air
defiantly blood on his face as
58:40
he left the stage.
58:41
She is recovering from these
injuries. Now, this was a
58:44
traumatic event, no doubt for
him. But I did notice there was
58:47
no call for lowering the
temperature, condemning all
58:51
political violence and really
trying to signal to his
58:56
supporters as well. Not to
retaliate or to have any kind of
59:01
escalation here. I just am
looking at these little belief
59:04
in his inner circle that he's
under siege. I understand his
59:08
rally. So there's a lot of every
59:11
exactly digested like you're
saying, I mean, every single
59:13
text message, literally every
single one from Trump sources is
59:18
outraged and shocked. And so
that is certainly the mood
59:22
inside the highest ranks of the
Republican Party. Speaking to
59:24
CBS News tonight.
59:26
Adam Curry: I'm just thinking. I
mean, pray for President Biden
59:31
because what an what a great
opportunity for for this to be
59:35
cleared up to get him out. Oh,
deranged Trump supporter
59:40
retaliation. Sorry, Joe. I
wouldn't put it past I wouldn't
59:46
put it past the elites of the
world.
59:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's
possible but I just don't see it
59:54
happening because it's always
the Republicans who are the
59:56
targets and they're the ones who
take You know, I haven't bullet
1:00:01
same datum Democrats it doesn't
happen.
1:00:05
Adam Curry: Let's hope it
doesn't happen to anybody. I
1:00:07
want to play a couple clips from
Jake Tapper because he's, for
1:00:10
some reason he's moved to the
forefront ever since he started
1:00:14
doing the deconstruction of
Biden.
1:00:17
John C Dvorak: He's moved to the
forefront because he's on the
1:00:19
Council of Foreign Relations.
1:00:22
Adam Curry: There you go. Let's
listen to him on his State of
1:00:24
the Union more
1:00:25
Unknown: do you want to know
about the shooter? Very, there's
1:00:27
very little we know about him
right now. He's 20. He's from
1:00:31
Western Pennsylvania. He's
registered Republican. He gave
1:00:34
money a small amount.
1:00:36
Adam Curry: No, no, no, hold on
a second. Listen to that. Listen
1:00:38
to the this. This is the
narrative now, which I find I
1:00:42
find absolutely fascinating. I'm
having all kinds of issues here
1:00:45
with my my system. Second, why
can I not do this? Anyway,
1:00:53
democratic
1:00:55
Unknown: get out the vote group,
a democratic aligned group of
1:00:57
some sort. What more as an
intelligence professional Do you
1:01:01
want to know about him? So
1:01:04
Adam Curry: I'm moving into the
full of the age of political
1:01:07
violence.
1:01:08
Unknown: Last night, as you all
know, horrifically a shooter
1:01:11
opened fire and tried to
assassinate former President
1:01:13
Donald Trump at a campaign
rally. This was the closest call
1:01:17
in terms of a major
assassination attempt on a US
1:01:20
leader on that level in more
than 40 years since Ronald
1:01:23
Reagan in 1981. We do not yet
know the specific motivations
1:01:28
behind this would be assassin
sick and twisted, though they
1:01:32
assuredly are but but sadly,
this is not the first time we've
1:01:36
seen this kind of repugnant and
unAmerican violence. In 2011.
1:01:40
Then Democratic Congresswoman
Gabby Giffords was shot in the
1:01:43
head and nearly killed by a
gunman in a constituent event
1:01:46
other innocent people were
killed. A 2017 shooting at a
1:01:50
Republicans congressional
baseball practice. Left
1:01:53
Congressman Steve Scalise in
critical condition. Then, of
1:01:56
course, there was the unite the
right white supremacist rally in
1:01:59
Charlottesville that year. In
2020. Violence exploded in
1:02:02
protests after George George
Floyd's horrific murder. Then on
1:02:07
January 6 2021, attack on the US
Capitol and that aftermath which
1:02:11
left multiple Trump supporters
and Capitol police officers
1:02:14
dead, an individual who left
pipe bombs outside the
1:02:17
Republican National Committee
and the Democratic National
1:02:20
Committee buildings. That
individual still not been
1:02:22
identified. In 2022 former
Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi
1:02:26
his husband Paul was attacked
with a hammer in his own home by
1:02:31
an intruder searching for the
former speaker. Another man with
1:02:34
a gun a knife and a zip ties was
arrested outside the home of
1:02:38
Supreme Court Justice Brett
Kavanaugh to say nothing of
1:02:41
lesser return Cesar sayoc, who
sent pipe bombs to Democrats and
1:02:45
members of the news media,
including CNN in 2018.
1:02:48
Adam Curry: And then Jake turns
on the waterworks. Last year,
1:02:52
the
1:02:52
Unknown: US Department of
Homeland Security warned of a
1:02:54
high threat of violence from
radicalized individuals, Lone
1:02:57
offenders or small group attacks
that occur with little warning
1:03:01
and said that the 2024 election
cycle will be quote, a key event
1:03:05
for possible violence on quote,
the assessment warned of
1:03:08
violence against quote
government officials, voters and
1:03:12
elections related personnel and
infrastructure including polling
1:03:15
places, ballot Drop Box
locations, voter registration
1:03:18
sites, campaign events,
political party offices and vote
1:03:21
counting sites. Unquote. There
is something troubling the
1:03:27
American soul right now.
1:03:30
Adam Curry: It's you Tapper. Too
many
1:03:32
Unknown: Americans see those
with whom they disagree, as the
1:03:36
enemy, to be shunned to be
banned to be ostracized, to be
1:03:40
threatened with violence, or
even to have that violence
1:03:43
carried out. As with so many
prior acts of violence, we right
1:03:49
now see too many awful responses
out there to this hideous attack
1:03:54
on former President Trump
responses that are part of this
1:03:56
trend that includes those who
without evidence, are blaming
1:04:01
this act of violence on those
with whom they have
1:04:04
disagreements. We are praying
for former President Trump's
1:04:07
recovery today and praying for
his family and for those victims
1:04:11
of the attack. And we urge in
the strongest possible terms we
1:04:16
this election and all our
political differences must be
1:04:19
determined by ballots and votes,
not by bullets. And that this
1:04:24
rhetoric of dehumanization, stop
political violence has no place
1:04:30
in America. I wish that were
true. It's
1:04:34
Adam Curry: our history. It's
almost our culture. Are you
1:04:36
kidding me? Wait,
1:04:38
John C Dvorak: the way he put
that it sounds like he wants to
1:04:41
play that last little line again
and deconstruct it. Okay.
1:04:49
Unknown: We are praying for
former President Trump's
1:04:51
recovery today and praying for
his family and for those victims
1:04:54
of the attack. And we urge in
the strongest possible terms
1:04:59
that this election In all our
political differences must be
1:05:02
determined by ballots and votes,
not by bullets. And that this
1:05:07
rhetoric of dehumanization, stop
political violence has no place
1:05:13
in America. I wish that that
were true. Now he's
1:05:17
Adam Curry: blaming Trump. He's
blaming Trump. Oh, this
1:05:21
demonization you're doing about
the people that's driving people
1:05:24
to shoot at you. That's what I
hear
1:05:33
Did you hear something
different?
1:05:37
John C Dvorak: political
violence has no place in
1:05:39
America. I wish that it was
true. Yeah. Because what he
1:05:51
wishes it was true that
political violence had a place
1:05:53
in America is the way I heard
1:06:00
Adam Curry: I think it'd be
great if we could all come
1:06:02
together and hate the media.
where's the where's the pulling
1:06:06
the plug on the on the
transmitters? Don't transmitters
1:06:09
anymore? Cutting the fiber?
Which transmitters? Yeah, the
1:06:15
need to have we need to have
that pull the plug on
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: those people's
Joy read. Another finds mad owl?
1:06:24
The head of Comcast CEO,
Comcast, Roberts. These are bad
1:06:31
people.
1:06:32
Adam Curry: There was a very
interesting and that's
1:06:35
John C Dvorak: you know that
what they are is they're they're
1:06:37
provoca tours.
1:06:40
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, yes. It's
not news. It's yeah.
1:06:43
provocateurs is a good one. But
we're all we're all in on it.
1:06:47
We're all sharing the videos,
we're all meaning about it.
1:06:51
We're all this, you know, we're
seeing the result of our own
1:06:55
actions. And, you know, throw
some SSRIs in there, I'd love to
1:07:00
have an analysis about that.
That guy looks like he might
1:07:03
have been on something, you know
what I mean?
1:07:06
John C Dvorak: That's the last
thing they're ever going to
1:07:08
discuss as long as they allow
advertising, the pharmaceutical
1:07:12
companies to do advertising. So
this is one of the main things
1:07:16
that has to go.
1:07:18
Adam Curry: So it was a video
that was sent to me several
1:07:20
times by multiple people. It's
posted all over Twitter. April
1:07:25
8, I guess about three months
ago. The Prophet Brandon Briggs
1:07:32
made a bold statement while he
was being interviewed. He has
1:07:36
his own YouTube channel. And
he's clearly a follower of
1:07:40
Jesus. But what he said here was
quite interesting. And I'm
1:07:44
pretty sure this was indeed
three months ago, because you
1:07:47
know, this could have been just
said it was three months ago.
1:07:49
But from all the checking I did,
he said this in April, because
1:07:53
the Lord told me, he said, I am
not done with America. He said,
1:07:58
there's going to be a new wave
of patriotism coming out. And
1:08:02
that's whenever I saw Trump, and
I saw that I saw a red wave
1:08:06
coming out of Michigan. And then
I saw Oklahoma and there was
1:08:10
embers of people. And they were
all on these these. They had
1:08:14
torches all throughout Oklahoma,
and they were raising up these
1:08:17
torches that look like fire. And
they were bringing forth a new
1:08:21
patriotism upon the nation. And
it was coming, it was being
1:08:24
birthed. And it just kept
spreading like fire all
1:08:27
throughout America all
throughout, and I saw Trump
1:08:29
rising up. And then I saw an
attempt on his life, that this
1:08:34
bullet flew by his ear, and it
came so close to his head that
1:08:39
he busted his drum eardrum, and
I saw he was he fell to his
1:08:44
knees during this timeframe. And
he started worshiping the Lord.
1:08:47
He got radically born again
during this timeframe. I'm
1:08:51
talking when people say he's
saved now but he becomes really
1:08:55
on fire for Jesus for what I saw
coming. And then I saw people
1:09:00
interceding when he I see him I
saw him winning the presidency
1:09:05
through great the Lord show me
would go clear into the summer
1:09:09
great persecution would come on
him through the judges, and
1:09:13
through the through the law and
all these people trying to sue
1:09:16
him and all this stuff, but
there would be a stop to it. And
1:09:19
there things would start to
break free come toward the fall
1:09:22
and then I saw him winning the
election through the Patriots
1:09:27
coming out and voting and then
and then and then there will be
1:09:29
a great economy crash that's all
they had a great economy plan a
1:09:34
crash there you go.
1:09:38
John C Dvorak: The prophets
Well, you know, guys having
1:09:40
religious visions, you know,
which is something of a
1:09:43
violation of certain precepts.
And then going on and on like
1:09:47
this is just another whack jobs
the way I see it. I
1:09:52
Adam Curry: know the way you see
it.
1:09:55
John C Dvorak: I just thought it
was interesting to plenty of
1:09:57
those guys
1:09:58
Adam Curry: out there the detail
of his ear error was quite
1:10:00
interesting. Well,
1:10:02
John C Dvorak: I didn't blow his
eardrum out. So he got that
1:10:04
wrong. Yeah.
1:10:07
Adam Curry: But did you see Did
you see that? It looked like
1:10:10
Trump had a hole in his jacket.
1:10:14
John C Dvorak: Somebody pointed
that out. Yeah. I saw it. I saw
1:10:17
the pictures. But
1:10:21
Adam Curry: I was reading about
your class up. I
1:10:23
John C Dvorak: mean, yeah, he
might be wearing a bulletproof
1:10:25
vest.
1:10:27
Adam Curry: Yeah, but if he got
hit you would that that would
1:10:30
set you back. I don't think he
got hit but
1:10:32
John C Dvorak: generally, but
not if his small caliber. I
1:10:35
don't know.
1:10:36
Adam Curry: But I was reading
about George Washington, who was
1:10:40
fighting the Indians. And the
story goes General George
1:10:46
Washington, that he was hit four
times by the Indians firing
1:10:50
rifles at them and they just
went through his coat didn't hit
1:10:54
him to horses got taken out
underneath him. And and even to
1:11:00
Indian, you know, like chiefs at
all. We can't hit this guy. He's
1:11:04
got the great spirit watching
over him. just reminded me of it
1:11:09
like wow, what a what an
incredible, incredible moment
1:11:13
that he just turns his head
bullet grazes his ear if
1:11:17
something went through his his
coat like unbelievable.
1:11:22
John C Dvorak: And I don't think
I think the whole I don't think
1:11:25
that's now there would have been
reported. But
1:11:27
Adam Curry: oh, please nothing's
reported we do breaking we know
1:11:31
nothing we saw here. It was
really hard. We still we still
1:11:34
know nothing. We know absolutely
nothing. It's a sad state and we
1:11:42
don't know anything about this
about the shooter. All we have
1:11:45
is
1:11:46
John C Dvorak: it have this we
have this.
1:11:48
Adam Curry: I have the nine
second clip of him in the car. I
1:11:51
Unknown: yeah, here.
1:11:52
My name is Thomas Matthew
crooks.
1:11:55
Adam Curry: I hate Republicans.
I hate Trump. And guess what?
1:11:59
You got the wrong guy. Now that
is puzzling. You got the wrong
1:12:04
guy. What does it mean? What
does it mean?
1:12:07
John C Dvorak: Well, he looks a
lot more like the guy than the
1:12:09
dead guy does. I mean, Thomas
Matthew crook, if you see
1:12:15
pictures of him when he was in
high school, they have pictures
1:12:18
floating around if he's a goofy
looking guy looks like an INCEL.
1:12:21
That's definitely the case. And
even when he's in that TV
1:12:25
commercial, you can see what a
goofy looking guy he is. And
1:12:28
then they have the dead guy in
the picture. The dead guy
1:12:30
doesn't look at the same, you
know, it's not blah. He's not a
1:12:33
dirty blonde. He's kind of a
brown haired guy. It doesn't
1:12:37
look anything like him. And then
the I'm questioning whether this
1:12:41
is the right guy and what the
hell's going on? Well, I don't
1:12:45
believe this guy. This guy's
just a troll. It looks a little
1:12:47
like him. But I think again, oh,
no, again, we
1:12:51
Adam Curry: don't know any since
1:12:52
John C Dvorak: you brought it up
that we don't know. I don't know
1:12:54
who this guy he really is.
1:12:56
Adam Curry: A lot of 30 threes.
On this particular day. So read
1:13:00
the list. There we go.
Pennsylvania, 33rd. State. It
1:13:04
happened three months, three
weeks and three days before the
1:13:06
election. The date was 13. Seven
and 137 is the 33rd prime
1:13:11
number. Whatever. 330 333 days
after Beau Biden died 33 weeks
1:13:19
and three days after the JFK
anniversary. I guess you can
1:13:22
find threes anywhere three
years. And 333 days after Robert
1:13:27
Trump's death brother. And and
you know, there's a number of
1:13:31
these. I kind of liked the 33rd
state. I like the 33333 days
1:13:39
after Beau Biden died. Me I was
like, yeah, it was kind of
1:13:43
Masonic numbers.
1:13:44
John C Dvorak: Research any of
this to make sure it's accurate.
1:13:46
Of
1:13:46
Adam Curry: course not. I've got
other things. I'm rebuilding my
1:13:50
studio. I got no time for that.
Let's, let's see what was
1:13:53
happening before this went down.
Because again, the coincidence
1:13:57
of this happening when President
Biden was very much on the ropes
1:14:01
is just astounding. Today behind
closed
1:14:04
Unknown: doors. Senate Democrats
listen for more than two hours
1:14:07
as Tom Biden campaign officials
made their case for why the
1:14:10
President could still win in
November and should stay in the
1:14:13
race.
1:14:14
What's on everybody's mind? Is
there a clear path to victory
1:14:17
here? Can we honestly say that
we're on the path to defeating
1:14:23
Donald Trump and holding on to
the Senate and holding on to the
1:14:26
House of Representatives, One
1:14:27
senator describing the meeting
as tense at times, were told a
1:14:31
number of lawmakers complained
to the Biden team that they were
1:14:34
being put in difficult,
impossible and untenable
1:14:37
positions having to defend the
President's disastrous debate
1:14:40
performance to their
constituents back home. One
1:14:43
senator telling ABC News, I
needed to see hard data that
1:14:46
showed a path to success in
November, and we did not get
1:14:49
that. Two hours later the
meeting breaking up the
1:14:53
President's aides leaving
senators filtering out. Some
1:14:57
of my concerns are laid. Some
others have Been deepen. Peter
1:15:01
Welch of Vermont is the only
senator to openly call for the
1:15:04
President to drop out writing in
The Washington Post. We have
1:15:07
asked President Biden to do so
much for so many for so long and
1:15:11
as required unmatched
selflessness and courage. We
1:15:14
need him to put us first as he
has done before. I asked him at
1:15:18
today's meeting changed his
mind.
1:15:20
I have naturally flatlined, but
I really appreciate why.
1:15:24
West Virginia Senator Joe
Manchin, hinting this situation
1:15:27
will come to a head this
weekend. I
1:15:29
think everyone will be talking
over Friday, Saturday and
1:15:32
Sunday, you should have some
idea of what's going on go
1:15:34
Adam Curry: oh, that's kind of
handy that we're all gonna have
1:15:38
the meetings this weekend. And
then all of a sudden, something
1:15:41
changes as
1:15:41
Unknown: President Biden tries
to regain his footing with
1:15:44
Democrats on Capitol Hill.
1:15:45
We just want to make sure that
Donald Trump is not President.
1:15:49
The
1:15:49
ground is getting more slippery.
1:15:51
I think a single press
conference can change things
1:15:53
habits. Now
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: the mere fact
that we're sitting here having a
1:15:55
conversation about whether or
not our candidate for president
1:15:59
can get through a press
conference on NATO, and we're
1:16:03
having to talk about hope he
gets through it.
1:16:07
Unknown: It's not what you want.
Several
1:16:08
more House Democrats today
publicly urged the president to
1:16:11
withdraw as the top Democrat in
the House acknowledged he's
1:16:14
getting an earful. Do they
confer with you try to get your
1:16:17
blessing notify you in
1:16:19
advance? As you can imagine,
there have been a lot of
1:16:21
conversations and those
conversations are private. This
1:16:23
afternoon,
1:16:24
three top Biden campaign
officials met privately with
1:16:27
Senate Democrats trying to
prevent bleeding support. Can we
1:16:30
honestly say that we're on the
path to defeating Donald Trump
1:16:34
but they've already lost one
Vermont's Peter Welch was the
1:16:37
first to say the president
should bail on reelection? Why
1:16:41
was this the time when the right
time is the President's most
1:16:44
vocal supporters in Congress
include members of the
1:16:47
Congressional Black Caucus, but
the Nevada Democrat who chairs
1:16:50
the groups as the Biden campaign
still needs to prove itself the
1:16:53
need
1:16:54
to make change, structural
change in the campaign, change
1:17:00
around strategy change around
how we make investments and
1:17:04
spending to do what to win in
November.
1:17:08
Adam Curry: So that was all
going on. But all kinds of
1:17:11
horrible, horrible news for
President Biden. And now it
1:17:14
turns out that, you know, George
Clooney wrote his wrote his op
1:17:19
ed, is Clooney, a CFR member? If
not, he should be yes, he is. Of
1:17:23
course he is.
1:17:23
John C Dvorak: And before you
continue, Pennsylvania was the
1:17:27
second state, obviously, because
Philadelphia is a foundational
1:17:31
city admitted to the Union
second, not the 33rd Well,
1:17:36
that's
1:17:37
Adam Curry: just fake news, then
1:17:38
John C Dvorak: the whole thing
is the whole list. I'm sure it's
1:17:41
Oh, crap.
1:17:42
Adam Curry: I'm sure it is.
That's why even go to look at
1:17:45
it. But here back to Clooney. It
seems like Clooney set this all
1:17:51
up and submarine Good Old Joe.
1:17:54
Unknown: So it was personally an
affront to him and a hurt to him
1:17:58
to have Clooney speak out
against him. I think one of the
1:18:00
things isn't the reporting also
is that part of what seems to
1:18:02
have gone wrong here is that
fundraiser in Los Angeles, and
1:18:06
then maybe the jetlag that we're
off of it. The only reason why
1:18:10
they flew by it and from Italy,
across all the way to Los
1:18:14
Angeles overnight to that was
because George Clooney, where
1:18:17
they wanted to do the event said
that was the only day available
1:18:19
in his shooting schedule. So
there is a frustration, then
1:18:23
that comes out that then Clooney
is the one who took the shot at
1:18:26
Biden. And like there are a lot
of layers to what's going on
1:18:30
here. George
1:18:34
is a spy
1:18:37
Adam Curry: and a member of the
Council on Foreign Relations.
1:18:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Which is
weird if you asked me, but fact
1:18:44
so he did, you know, the counter
argument as well. Clooney, it
1:18:47
was only there for a few
minutes. And he had the day left
1:18:50
and Biden stuck around which is
not necessarily accurate, or
1:18:54
it's kind of a bleeding, leaving
out the information, which is
1:18:58
that Clooney had to get back to
his set. Yeah, he was there for
1:19:01
a while and then went back to
the film. It was for
1:19:03
Adam Curry: shooting schedule,
of course. Yeah. What's more
1:19:06
important? who becomes president
or my movie? Well, no, we don't
1:19:11
know what's important. Here's
NBC. Again before the Trump's
1:19:16
shooting. Tonight,
1:19:17
Unknown: the list of Democrats
calling on President Biden to
1:19:20
end his campaign for reelection
1:19:22
is growing. But ultimately, the
President's gonna have to make
1:19:24
his own decision.
1:19:25
The first senator Peter Welch of
Vermont, joining a list of more
1:19:29
than a dozen House Democrats
publicly asking Biden to do the
1:19:33
same, including Earl Blumenauer
from Oregon. I mean, his legacy
1:19:38
is at stake now. And despite
President Biden's repeated
1:19:41
insistence that he'll remain in
the race. I'm not going
1:19:44
anywhere. House Democratic
Leader Hakeem Jeffries today
1:19:47
indicating his caucus is far
from decided. Those
1:19:50
conversations have been candid,
comprehensive, and clear eyed.
1:19:57
And they continue and
1:19:59
Senate majority of Leader Chuck
Schumer batting down a report
1:20:02
claiming he has signaled to
donors he's open to a change at
1:20:05
the top of the ticket by saying,
quote, I support President Biden
1:20:09
and remain committed to ensuring
Donald Trump is defeated in
1:20:12
November, the White House in the
campaign hoping to calm Capitol
1:20:16
Hill fears sent three top
officials to brief senators. But
1:20:20
many of the senators left with
more questions than answers.
1:20:24
I still have concerns because I
need more of the data and
1:20:28
analytics that show the path to
victory. Biden
1:20:31
does have his backers in
Congress who are encouraging
1:20:34
their colleagues to end this
speculation and get on board.
1:20:37
We have the team, we have the
operation, we have the president
1:20:41
who I trust, but
1:20:42
many others have offered less
than enthusiastic support.
1:20:46
Adam Curry: And then the final
one from CNN,
1:20:48
Unknown: like this is a
continuing trauma and turmoil
1:20:52
for the Democrats. And when you
go and talk to a lot of them,
1:20:56
what they say is I just want to
be over already. I want it to
1:21:00
end. And I have heard people who
say to me, I don't want Joe
1:21:03
Biden to be the nominee. I want
this to change, but I don't even
1:21:07
care anymore. We just need to
stop.
1:21:12
Adam Curry: And that's where it
was before all this change.
1:21:14
Everything changed. In
1:21:17
John C Dvorak: really, what do
you say? Let's just stop and do
1:21:20
some analysis here. Okay, first
of all, do you think Biden will
1:21:24
be the nominee or not?
1:21:28
Adam Curry: So far, he is he
still is the nominee. Now?
1:21:33
John C Dvorak: I got it wrapped
up. Actually, if he wants to be
1:21:35
the nominee, he is the nominee.
Yeah.
1:21:37
Adam Curry: And he clearly wants
to be.
1:21:41
John C Dvorak: So will he be?
You willing to take a chance and
1:21:45
make I guess?
1:21:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'll say that
he will be the nominee. At the
1:21:52
convention, he will not bow out
before the convention and the
1:21:55
convention, he will be the
nominee. I'm pretty secure in
1:21:59
saying that deal. Well, that's
fine.
1:22:01
John C Dvorak: But will he be on
the ballot at the end of the day
1:22:04
in November?
1:22:05
Adam Curry: Oh, who knows? You
could be dude. Oh. Yeah. The
1:22:11
other one
1:22:12
John C Dvorak: is the other cool
question that we should answer
1:22:14
where we still have the big
audience who's going to be the
1:22:17
VP for Trump?
1:22:19
Adam Curry: I think, oh, for
Trump. I find this somehow. It
1:22:28
feels like it's not going to be
anybody we're talking about.
1:22:32
John C Dvorak: I'm going to
stick with my earlier
1:22:33
prediction. That's going to be
Rubio.
1:22:36
Adam Curry: That will be someone
no one's talking about anymore.
1:22:39
Rumor. Rubio kind of went kind
of went down the list. Once JD
1:22:42
Vance came onto the scene.
1:22:45
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna stick
with Rubio, because I don't if
1:22:49
he picks JD Vance, I'll be
stunned. JD Vance was a never
1:22:53
Trumper he has all these issues.
I mean, I don't know. He wasn't
1:23:00
a almost didn't get elected. If
it wasn't for Trump. He wouldn't
1:23:03
even be in office. And Trump
said something about facial
1:23:08
hair. Yeah,
1:23:09
Adam Curry: he doesn't like he
doesn't like Pete guys with
1:23:10
facial hair. That's true.
1:23:14
Unknown: I saw I saw
1:23:17
Adam Curry: someone on Tik Tok,
I think hits obvious. She said
1:23:22
Baron is going to be his VP.
Forget about forget about the
1:23:26
age qualification. But he's got
by the way, Baron is looking
1:23:30
like a pretty cool dude.
1:23:34
John C Dvorak: But he should be
on a basketball team in some
1:23:36
college for sure. For sure.
1:23:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, for sure.
1:23:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he is.
Yeah, Bear. It'll be interesting
1:23:44
to see how he turns out.
1:23:46
Adam Curry: Well, I think the
next move is is Trump's and I
1:23:49
already told you what I think he
should do. The how we move
1:23:54
forward depends entirely on his
next move. I mean, it's really
1:23:58
critical. What he does. And just
as an aside, I mean, he's not
1:24:05
Superman, he's 78. Anybody
getting shot basically in the
1:24:09
face? That's gonna set you back
a second. I would think I mean,
1:24:14
you're just like, Oh, hold on,
hold on what's happening here?
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: So I just one
thing is going to happen. He's
1:24:21
going to be at the convention.
Yeah. Oh, for sure. And he's
1:24:24
going to come out with a big
thing on his ear, a big bandage.
1:24:31
You think there's gonna be an
oversized bandage, no big thing.
1:24:35
He's gonna look like Van Gogh.
He's gonna come out with his big
1:24:39
band. It's just gonna be
reminiscent of Jack Nicholson in
1:24:43
Chinatown who acted through the
whole movie with a big bandage
1:24:47
on his nose. If you recall.
Trump's gonna be like you watch
1:24:51
he's gonna come out with this
big bandage on his on his ear.
1:24:55
So
1:24:57
Adam Curry: I don't know about
that. Yeah, You know, I don't
1:25:01
think so I think what I do know
now, again, the staging, when
1:25:07
isn't it coming up? When is the
convention? Is it this week is
1:25:10
this coming week? Next week?
Monday is Monday. Alright, so
1:25:12
that's tomorrow?
1:25:14
John C Dvorak: Yes, tomorrow.
1:25:16
Unknown: Now I think I
1:25:17
John C Dvorak: think the VP is
going to be picked on Wednesday.
1:25:19
I think Wednesday's VP day, I'm
pretty sure that until then,
1:25:22
we're going to have all the
speech everybody in their system
1:25:25
is going to be giving a speech.
And I think the Lonnie is even
1:25:28
going to be up there for one
1:25:29
Adam Curry: she wrote, she wrote
a letter Melania wrote a letter.
1:25:33
It looks a little bit chat GPT
ish to me, to be honest,
1:25:36
John C Dvorak: that probably was
barely speaking. But it was it
1:25:40
was
1:25:40
Adam Curry: it was a sweet
letter, you know, sweet letter,
1:25:43
like, let's all calm down.
Let's, you know, there's
1:25:45
politicians are also humans,
they have families. It was nice.
1:25:51
Of course, you know, gets no, no
traction,
1:25:54
John C Dvorak: because oh, I
wouldn't get any traction. I'm
1:25:56
sure went through a bunch of PR
people too.
1:25:58
Adam Curry: So do you think our
country can can can live through
1:26:02
this calmly that we can, that we
can not go all in and start
1:26:06
yelling at each other? Can we
hear yelling
1:26:08
John C Dvorak: at each other
already? Yeah. I think it'll
1:26:11
calm down for a while, but it's
gonna heat back up. You watch. I
1:26:14
mean, it's just doesn't. It's
kind of part of what you want to
1:26:18
do. I have a funny clip, which
would be kind of cool to play
1:26:22
before the break. Of Katie
Hopkins, who is kind of a fan
1:26:29
favorite. She's used to be on
the LBC she's a British
1:26:33
commentator who got kicked off
the air. Yeah, because she was a
1:26:37
little too conservative for the
BBC and other operations, other
1:26:42
news outlets, also
1:26:43
Adam Curry: a bit of a blowhard,
and annoy she's a
1:26:45
John C Dvorak: she's a she's a
Yeah, she should be an actress
1:26:49
or something because she's
ridiculous. But I have to say
1:26:54
she's very funny sometimes. And
this particular rant has got
1:27:00
some good material in it.
batshit
1:27:02
Unknown: bonkers Biden land
where Biden is out on the
1:27:05
campaign trail, like a maniac
trying to run away from his
1:27:09
terminal diagnosis that's
already been decided by Pelosi
1:27:13
and Obama. They're just working
out which day, the guillotine
1:27:17
will finally fall, and he's
acting more demented Saturday,
1:27:21
calling out weirdly when it's
doing a speaker Trump's a
1:27:24
rapist, just like a drunk uncle
at Walmart. He's got his cock
1:27:30
and he's trying to have a pole
ring donut from Krispy Kreme. In
1:27:34
other news, the big news is that
Lincoln might have been queer.
1:27:38
While we need to go back into
history to put queerness in to
1:27:42
make it more acceptable now, I
mean, we're surrounded by queer
1:27:45
leaders. Macron Trudeau. I mean,
I'd hug you kissed armor. And of
1:27:51
course, you've got a bomber with
big mind. You don't need to make
1:27:54
Lincoln game darlings, you've
got them surrounded all the
1:27:57
time. And finally, Trump is
absolutely owning this chaos
1:28:01
amongst the Democrats and loving
it. He fed the media a headline
1:28:06
yesterday, which is that is VP
pick is a bit like being on The
1:28:11
Apprentice, knowing that they
would gobble it up, make the
1:28:14
story all about him in an
elevated way. It looks like
1:28:17
darling Melania will turn up at
the RNC and she will be
1:28:20
perfection. And even if you
criticize Melania even if you
1:28:24
have things to say about her, at
least she's not guilty of elder
1:28:28
abuse like Joe That's it.
Because Biden and I have
1:28:33
Adam Curry: one more question
for you Do it because one thing
1:28:35
that I heard a lot was well,
he's guaranteed to win now. Do
1:28:39
you buy? I mean, I'm not quite
1:28:42
John C Dvorak: sure why not
buying it because I somebody
1:28:44
sent it. I sent that same note
back they said everybody, the
1:28:47
Democrats have something that
Republicans don't have, and
1:28:50
that's a machine. They create
votes they they literally
1:28:55
literally dead people. Dead
people vote Democrat, they don't
1:29:00
vote Republican. And and a lot
of people vote more than once.
1:29:04
And as usually Democrats, they
have a machine they Chicago is
1:29:08
probably the epitome of this
machine, where they just run
1:29:12
everything. And as she runs
through the machine and out
1:29:14
comes a winner. California has
largely adopted it. And so we
1:29:18
have nothing but Democrats and
in the school systems push it
1:29:21
and they push the Democrat
narrative and so no, I don't
1:29:25
think anything's a shoo in.
Yeah, if it if they if they turn
1:29:31
the machine off, it'll be a
landslide, I think. What's his
1:29:35
name, the extra music guy. The
EX political consultant, the guy
1:29:45
with the round head he looks a
little like a cartoon character
1:29:49
is Obama's guy Oh
1:29:50
Adam Curry: X or X X, X or X.
The X Men X
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: he thinks is
going to be if, if Biden stays
1:29:58
in he keeps predicting landslide
which says to me, and he's part
1:30:01
of the machine. He's, he's the
Chicago machine. And so that
1:30:05
means that there's a possibility
that the Democrats will turn the
1:30:08
machine off. Well, that seems to
be the threat. I don't see any
1:30:13
reason Axelrod saying that
unless that's a threat to turn
1:30:16
off the machine.
1:30:20
Adam Curry: Well, I'm still
going to hold the event even
1:30:22
though this happened, I'm still
going to say that they really
1:30:25
want him in they want they want
the him to handle the financial
1:30:29
problems that are inevitable.
And he's probably the guy to do
1:30:33
it. He's probably the guy to do
it.
1:30:37
John C Dvorak: Or the guy to
blame.
1:30:38
Adam Curry: The just a man
you're so project 2025 I there's
1:30:44
some, there was some Yale lady
who explained it was hilarious.
1:30:47
She's like, they want to get rid
of people who farmers who, who
1:30:51
farm corn, you go into the
document, you say, Well, yeah,
1:30:55
it's actually it's a GMO corn.
They want to get rid of that.
1:30:58
Okay.
1:31:00
John C Dvorak: Project 2025,
which I believe Trump doesn't
1:31:04
know anything about not much Or
does anybody I mean, this is
1:31:07
like, out of the blue document
that's used as a as a cudgel by
1:31:12
the Democrats to beat up the
Republicans. And it's like, hey,
1:31:16
you've looked at it. I haven't
even seen a copy.
1:31:19
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, I've put
it in the show notes twice.
1:31:21
Actually, what I like is all the
you know, all the memes that are
1:31:25
going around, I have a list of
them. So because of course no
1:31:28
one no one really reads it only
dopes like me. Well look, it's
1:31:33
900 pages. I don't expect you to
read it. In it. Arby's five for
1:31:38
$5 returns $5
1:31:40
John C Dvorak: would elicit
these up myself,
1:31:42
Adam Curry: I love this $5
footlongs come back to Subway
1:31:45
ashtrays, and Burger King is MC
rib all year round. Dining Pizza
1:31:51
Huts with red cups and these my
Marlboro points catalog returns
1:31:55
I like that one. And how about
this pull tab beer cans who
1:31:58
doesn't want him? Smoking in
real food on planes? Put CD
1:32:05
players back in cars.
1:32:08
John C Dvorak: CD player in
mind, you have well hello your
1:32:11
car.
1:32:14
Adam Curry: No fat chicks in the
Sports Illustrated Swimsuit
1:32:17
Issue. Middle car seat with no
middle car seat with no seat
1:32:22
belts and a federal bailout for
Red Lobster that I actually that
1:32:28
to me is like there's America
man is like we just go and do
1:32:31
it. There's a lot he makes fun
of floating around
1:32:34
John C Dvorak: that. And
1:32:34
Adam Curry: with that I'd like
to thank you for your courage in
1:32:36
the morning to you the man who
put the sea and Kruk say hello
1:32:38
to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. John
1:32:47
John C Dvorak: ships and see
boots on the ground feet in the
1:32:49
air subs in the water the games
and nights out there. Alright,
1:32:52
let's
1:32:52
Adam Curry: do a troll counts
here. We got going on.
1:32:59
4031 No, yeah. 4031 Trolls
hanging out listening in good.
1:33:07
But
1:33:07
John C Dvorak: that's the new
record.
1:33:08
Adam Curry: I think it is a
record. No, I
1:33:10
John C Dvorak: know. It's a
record. I write these down. More
1:33:13
assassination
1:33:14
Adam Curry: attempts. This is
good. Well, I hope that
1:33:18
everyone's Okay, hope
1:33:20
John C Dvorak: we're all we're
all dealing directly. 3046 Oh,
1:33:23
you
1:33:23
Adam Curry: brought that down.
We had 2347 on the last Sunday.
1:33:26
So this is good. The trolls, of
course are in the troll room.
1:33:29
Hit forth. Give me the number
4031.
1:33:33
John C Dvorak: That's dynamite.
Almost 1000 More than the old
1:33:36
record
1:33:36
Adam Curry: now. Well, I'm happy
that people come to listen to
1:33:39
the voice of reason as we cut
through the fog of facts.
1:33:43
Because breaking, nobody knows
anything. But well, no more on
1:33:48
Thursday. Let's not. Let's not
obsess about, you know too much.
1:33:54
Because that's the point. Yeah,
though, Bob, pay attention all
1:34:00
this meanwhile, who knows what's
happening? That's what we
1:34:02
needed. What is going on? What
is happening, this stuff going
1:34:05
on something that
1:34:05
John C Dvorak: we aren't
clipsham stuff going on? I
1:34:07
didn't really annoy me. That's
why the Eclipse came in so late
1:34:10
because I was doing my normal
clip routine. All of this is
1:34:13
wiped off the map. And I know I
know. So all I have is just a
1:34:18
million to these clips about
this. Your speculation about one
1:34:22
thing or another this is no
good. It's
1:34:24
Adam Curry: only to keep people
busy and busy, distracted and
1:34:28
divided. That's always the point
of any distracted
1:34:34
John C Dvorak: and divided the
big three. Yes.
1:34:38
Adam Curry: The trolls are a
troll room.io You can go there
1:34:41
at any time. It's 24/7. There's
always something happening. And
1:34:46
we got a lot of a lot of shows
on the no agenda stream. So you
1:34:50
can just leave it on. I mean, I
know people have it on 24 hours
1:34:54
a day and actually in the troll
room too. You can always listen
1:34:57
to it on a modern podcast app
and if you do that So, now, it's
1:35:01
always whenever these things
happen, you know, you get the
1:35:04
inevitable tweets, we need an
emergency pod and an emergency
1:35:07
pod please. And emergency pod.
1:35:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
funny. Yeah, it does happen. It
1:35:12
does use the pointless
1:35:15
Adam Curry: and, and a very
violating use of the word pod,
1:35:19
John C Dvorak: which is very,
very, very,
1:35:21
Adam Curry: very disturbing to
me is that disturbing. But if we
1:35:26
were to do that, you would know
about it, because modern podcast
1:35:31
app alerts you when we go live.
That's what's kind of cool about
1:35:33
it. And of course, you can
listen to all of your podcasts
1:35:36
in there and bless you. You can
listen to all your podcasts, you
1:35:40
can import your podcast list
support independent podcast, app
1:35:44
producers, a overcast is going
to do a complete a rewrite.
1:35:48
That's probably the number three
app overcast. And he's gonna do
1:35:52
a whole new a whole new version.
Bless you again. Sorry, that's
1:35:56
okay. Go to podcast apps.com.
You can, you can pick one, pick
1:36:01
any of them, but look at all the
different features. But for sure
1:36:04
we get one that has the alerts.
When we update our show. And we
1:36:07
published 90 seconds from that
time, you'll know that it's
1:36:09
happening. Now, unlike the
mainstream media and all these
1:36:15
jokes, who we've been listening
to and watching diligently who
1:36:19
can cannot say everything
because they have all kinds of
1:36:22
agendas and issues. Certainly
when it comes to well, like it
1:36:26
was this shooter on any kind of
antidepressant SSRI, we'll never
1:36:30
hear about it. At least not at
the mainstream. Maybe we'll get
1:36:32
some insight to it. And we'll
let you know because the big
1:36:35
pharma owns the media with their
advertising budgets, so they can
1:36:39
never say anything negative
about them. And we don't we
1:36:42
don't take any corporate money
of any kind. No ads. We just
1:36:45
like to be supported by our
producers. That's another thing
1:36:48
we don't have. We don't have
fans. We don't have an audience.
1:36:51
We don't have listeners, we
don't have watchers may have
1:36:54
viewers, we have producers and
boy did they send it a lot of
1:36:57
boots on the ground, and clips
and information and insight and
1:37:00
a lot of help, which I think
helped both of us to sift
1:37:03
through everything that was
coming in, it's much
1:37:05
appreciated. It's part of our
value for value model. time,
1:37:08
talent or treasure will take
anything that you want to give
1:37:12
us as long as it equals the
value you got out of the show.
1:37:16
So art is definitely something
that we like getting from our
1:37:20
producers. We always have 20 At
least 20 different pieces to
1:37:24
pick from we think it's it's
while we know it's good for the
1:37:27
show people see it. It's good
for sharing it gives you a
1:37:30
laugh. It makes people
interested in what's in this
1:37:33
show. And I would say the
artwork for episode 1676 titled
1:37:39
douche mobiel by the way, we
looked after the show that the
1:37:42
douche mobiel was named after
Sam Altman's supercar, which is
1:37:47
like a $30 million car. And it's
a plugin like hell. And it's a
1:37:52
plug in hybrid, which is the
funniest thing that art was
1:37:59
brought to us by Darren O'Neill
who did a great prompt jockey
1:38:03
job and it got it he got
attention. It was an even Tina
1:38:09
said was that Jake Tapper is uh
yes, it is. Yes, it is Jake
1:38:13
Tapper. It had them all GT with
all of his badges and then his
1:38:18
CNN Mike and his press hat. And
it was really I think it was the
1:38:22
best piece we looked at anything
else? No,
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: it was the best
piece of it. I mean, it wasn't
1:38:28
like there was nothing that was
competitive. And I'd made the
1:38:33
comment since I had complimented
him earlier in the show that he
1:38:36
went out of his way to produce a
winner and he's also moved up
1:38:40
the ladder and so I think he's
one away from
1:38:43
Adam Curry: the guy with no
artistic talent at all that we
1:38:47
can tell isn't a cruel the art
world is cruel. He's
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: got one more to
go and he'll be tight with
1:38:54
Martin JJ for second place all
time to have another
1:38:58
Adam Curry: another Dutch master
that is crazy. And Darren
1:39:04
usually it's funny how that
works. These Dutch masters
1:39:09
peoples toiling away and then he
slaps them together and boom it
1:39:15
making art is hard. And maybe
this is this is truly the the
1:39:20
only thing that AI is good for
is art for the no agenda show.
1:39:26
To be honest about it funny.
That's worth 50 billion in
1:39:29
investment did we see anything
else there was a loose in
1:39:33
John C Dvorak: their ass I mean
that he did a couple of good
1:39:35
pieces probably and this piece
the for the art generate for the
1:39:40
AI to make this art. I don't
know how many times he had to
1:39:44
redo the ROMs redo the prom but
every time is gotta be like 10
1:39:47
bucks or at least $1. But let's
say 10 bucks were the cycle time
1:39:52
and on the part on the other end
of it. It's probably cost the
1:39:58
you know, a lot of money.
eventually because yeah you know
1:40:01
this wasn't a one shot
1:40:02
Adam Curry: no no no Darren let
us know I'd like to know how you
1:40:06
did it well the giveaway prompt
yeah and how many times he redid
1:40:11
the prompt let's see the one I'm
a little tired of is all the a
1:40:17
lot of the AI art is all circle.
Oh, that's all comics should
1:40:20
blogger he started his prompt is
draw a circle put in it. Every
1:40:27
single piece of is is a circle.
1:40:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's always
a circle. He's becoming a circle
1:40:33
jerk. And
1:40:34
Adam Curry: there it is. Thank
you very much. Darren O'Neal
1:40:37
also does the pre the pre stream
the rock and roll. Show rock
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wall pre show. Just before we
start live on Sundays and
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Thursdays at troll room.io jump
in there and troll along and let
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him know that we love Him and
that you love him too. Let's
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1:40:55
for episode 1677. These are the
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appreciate it when people send
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it tells me they appreciate what
we're doing and that feels good.
1:41:27
Earl Christopher kicks us off
from Marshfield, Wisconsin with
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571 83 which is 54321 plus fees
and he says no jingles no karma.
1:41:41
That's a match for you. Thank
you very much. Appreciate it.
1:41:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah is a winner
Lauren in Pittsburgh,
1:41:47
Pennsylvania comes in for 500
bucks Good for her. And she
1:41:52
wrote a sweet note in their
handwriting which is very pretty
1:41:56
modern. longhand or cursive as
the kids of cursive I like your
1:42:04
show so much. I was hitting the
mouth in 2023 and haven't missed
1:42:09
an episode. Thank you for your
hard work just interest she's
1:42:13
she is post COVID
1:42:15
Adam Curry: yeah oh yeah, she's
new. She's a new new big welcome
1:42:18
thank
1:42:19
John C Dvorak: you for your hard
work excellent media
1:42:21
deconstruction and spot on
recommendations. I really
1:42:25
enjoyed family of Secrets by
Russ Baker and in the
1:42:32
Adam Curry: German vinegar in my
German
1:42:34
John C Dvorak: vinegar that
right that was in the in this
1:42:36
part of the Yes. Vinegar and
sparkling water.
1:42:40
Adam Curry: You came for the
media deconstruction but you
1:42:42
stayed for the drinking tips. I
love it.
1:42:45
John C Dvorak: That vinegar is
so tasty. Will you please de
1:42:49
douche me?
1:42:52
Unknown: D do SBT and
1:42:54
John C Dvorak: how do we do the
birthday list for Sunday July
1:42:56
14. No jingles? No karma love is
lit. Lauren in Pittsburgh. She's
1:43:00
on the list as far as I know.
Yes, she
1:43:02
Adam Curry: is. We move to Sir
les Ron Dothan later on Dothan
1:43:07
parts unknown and sends us
350 93 Hello again still
1:43:12
enjoying this go to podcast? Sir
les Ron Dalton. Again a
1:43:17
beautiful support and short
notes thank you sir les Ron.
1:43:23
John C Dvorak: And yeah, no
jingles no criminals two in a
1:43:25
row for you. Yes. Brian Dowd and
bear country New Jersey 34343375
1:43:32
Which I guess is 33333 with the
money Brian here from bear
1:43:37
county or bear country in North
Bear country in Northwest New
1:43:41
Jersey. Northwest New Jersey was
Bear Bear Yeah,
1:43:47
Adam Curry: yes bears nothing
but bear bears is
1:43:50
John C Dvorak: another bear you
guys rock been listening for
1:43:53
almost a year now another new
big happy to contribute lifted
1:43:56
de spinning of the media. I'll
take anything else Sharpton
1:44:00
mispronouncing stuff well keep
up the great work and thank you
1:44:03
Adam Curry: we happen to have
some of that haven't played.
1:44:06
Resist
1:44:06
Unknown: we much we must bear
all Jide about a shutdown the
1:44:12
tortoise in the race then go off
the oven who briefs you to lead
1:44:19
singer Bono friend dry shift
singer noi Weaver suspect
1:44:24
Johanna Sanaya of Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh the
1:44:29
show rush Lombard hosts Supreme
Court Justice Sonia
1:44:37
Adam Curry: karma Oh, we love
you out. And David Byrne. I
1:44:43
wonder if it's the David Byrne.
David Byrne.
1:44:47
John C Dvorak: You never know
does you live in Staten Island?
1:44:49
I really doubt it.
1:44:50
Adam Curry: No, he lives in
Manhattan. He lives I think at
1:44:53
the village I know because my
stepdaughter sees him all the
1:44:57
time at the bar. He hangs always
hanging around I think He is
1:45:00
burns with an S.
1:45:01
John C Dvorak: They get back to
work.
1:45:04
Adam Curry: You know, he's in
his 70s he's chill, he rides his
1:45:07
he has a bike with those big fat
wheels that he rides around. You
1:45:12
know what I mean? Like they're
really big.
1:45:14
John C Dvorak: Are you mean,
goofball? So
1:45:16
Adam Curry: David Byrne is in
Staten Island, New York sends us
1:45:18
343 75 It says crazy times stay
sane with John and Adam. Well,
1:45:23
there's an endorsement Thank
you.
1:45:26
John C Dvorak: Chase Martin in a
fraud at Ephrata or Ephrata I
1:45:31
don't know, Pennsylvania ITM
gentlemen, thank you for the
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Adam Curry: your boy, you went
off the rails with the fineness
1:46:25
on Facebook, but I'll let you
slide
1:46:28
John C Dvorak: vi counts. Yeah,
really? You should just have a
1:46:30
web Yeah, I
1:46:31
Adam Curry: mean, since they
find us on Facebook Vikon Jamie
1:46:35
Allison Damian Alderson that I
know Dave Miata, some veteran,
1:46:39
Nashville Winter Park, Florida
333 dot 36 And she has a
1:46:44
birthday on July 18. She'll be
turning 36 And she sent in a
1:46:47
note in the morning boys wanted
to you wanted a boots on the
1:46:52
ground about Taylor Swift. So
did we
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: not that I know
I'm glad to hear well here we
1:46:57
Adam Curry: go. Taylor Swift
boots on the ground. I have a
1:47:00
terrible memory in general. But
do recall the Eros tour she only
1:47:04
has one song that people are
dubbing witchcraft. I assure you
1:47:07
it's not people are unhinged,
but she's defending the Swifties
1:47:10
now, of course, of course some I
mean, how many witchcraft songs
1:47:15
do you need? You'll one one only
need one. Of course some
1:47:21
Swifties are also unhinged, but
not all. I guess she's a
1:47:25
straight laced Swifty. It's just
cool to hate her show to hate
1:47:29
her now. Well, I think it's
always been cool. The no agenda
1:47:33
show I think has always kind of
hated her. Yeah,
1:47:35
John C Dvorak: we've always kind
of hit it sounds great. Yeah,
1:47:37
Adam Curry: we were always cool.
Besides the Taytay hate the
1:47:40
shows are wonderful. As always,
the jokes have been top notch.
1:47:43
I'm usually a free few episodes
behind. But always listen when I
1:47:47
can. I'm about to venture off on
a three week European vacation
1:47:51
would need some would like some
travel karma and a hit of
1:47:54
relationship karma. And that
couldn't hurt PS Taylor Swift
1:47:58
has a song called karma. If you
have any other Swifty questions,
1:48:02
just let me know.
1:48:03
John C Dvorak: I adore no
answers with this one.
1:48:07
Adam Curry: Out the door. I
adore you both. I met Adam a few
1:48:10
times now. So John, you're up
next. Good luck. There you go.
1:48:14
Keep up the great work. Karma is
a cat love. I count his day me
1:48:18
out, isn't
1:48:19
Unknown: it? You've got karma.
1:48:25
John C Dvorak: David's are the
Duke. The Duke David Fuka zotoh
1:48:30
in Gladstone, Missouri. 33333.
Gentlemen, our contracted work
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was renewed for three years. And
there's a piece of my bonus for
1:48:41
sticking around. Thanks for the
deconstruction and entertainment
1:48:44
keep it up. Short and sweet.
Thank
1:48:46
Adam Curry: you. Dave is in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Three,
1:48:49
three 3.33 We love that he sent
in a note printed on paper. John
1:48:54
Adams opposite day here in Ohio
County, Kentucky. You both suck.
1:48:57
Your show was terrible. And you
never have good insights. Your
1:49:00
uninteresting show bores me and
I never listened to it totally
1:49:03
unhelpful. This isn't my first
time donating so you don't have
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to deduce me. I've never told
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and I've never had anyone in the
mouth. With this donation please
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play every jingle you have which
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think your value for value motto
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I'm not encouraging no agenda
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Biden was mentally healthy. NPR
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opposite day. I can't keep this
up. I love you guys and I love
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the no agenda show. Thanks so
much. Haha. Cheers. Dave and he
1:49:48
does say Phil still a douchebag
he knows who he is. All right.
1:49:54
Yeah. Opposite day when I was
tough.
1:49:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Got through
it. I did. I Aditya try murti
1:50:03
Aditya try Murphy and I know I'm
no I'm butchering the first name
1:50:07
for sure try Marti is probably
right in his he's in Hyderabad
1:50:12
Hyderabad in India,
1:50:15
Adam Curry: Hyderabad
1:50:16
John C Dvorak: I think it's Dara
Dara maybe about so he's in
1:50:20
India which is and he came
through with a stripe donation
1:50:23
because the India we couldn't
get any money out of them and
1:50:26
normally but the stripe has
seems to work in India and we
1:50:30
fact we have two donations from
him one for three three do take
1:50:36
it easy on India or off Indians
we love you both despite us
1:50:40
pretending not to catch up my
advisor read the other one says
1:50:44
the same guy. He comes in a
second time with 300 bucks so
1:50:49
he's actually a $600 donation
give us a break we are costly
1:50:54
cheap, my love to family and
roundtable I was soon join okay,
1:51:00
and you're in
1:51:01
Adam Curry: a DTS sent me a note
and said Why does John hate
1:51:04
Indian so much? It's not true.
That's what I said. I said he
1:51:07
doesn't hate Indians. So you
must have said something that
1:51:10
ticked him off. All
1:51:11
John C Dvorak: Indians are so
sensitive
1:51:20
Adam Curry: so says Oh, I know
you're making fun of their
1:51:22
accent. Okay, yeah, there you
go. The guy just supported us. I
1:51:26
liked this guy. Okay, well, he
likes you. Although he's he's
1:51:30
thinks you hate Indians. You're
just a hater man. You hate
1:51:35
Taylor Swift you hate Indians
get it together you're driving
1:51:39
people away. Thank you very much
a Ditcher Patrick fun Sean would
1:51:46
you pronounce it that way
function function function
1:51:48
function function Highland
Indiana. 333 no notes so we give
1:51:52
you a double up karma. Thank you
very much.
1:51:54
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:51:59
John C Dvorak: Dame Emily and
Beaverton Oregon comes in with
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320 32 and it's remarkable
because it's this 32nd Birthday
1:52:06
donation for myself. Today July
14, though, which is Bastille
1:52:10
Day we forgot to mention that ah
that's could have been in the
1:52:16
newsletter too. Oh, don't buddy
cares. Bastille Day. May I Yeah.
1:52:21
Especially the French those are
the guys that don't don't they
1:52:23
really don't care about
anything. I mean, I please have
1:52:27
a biscuit for my birthday. They
are general birthday karma. I
1:52:30
love the show Dame Emily and
Portland they
1:52:33
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. You've
1:52:36
got karma.
1:52:39
Adam Curry: And wow. Then we see
Cal from lavender blossoms
1:52:43
lavender blossoms dot Oregon
Northville Michigan haven't seen
1:52:46
Cal around for a while. He is
the first Associate Executive
1:52:50
Producer with 272 dot 72 Cal let
us know how you're doing because
1:52:54
you didn't send the note. So we
will give you a double up karma.
1:52:57
Thank you.
1:52:58
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:53:03
John C Dvorak: Jonathan Faris
liberal Kansas 24545. And he has
1:53:09
one simple comment should be an
interesting show.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: Kevin Olson is in
Dilworth, Minnesota to 10/61
1:53:16
time donor please do do.
1:53:19
Unknown: D de deuced
1:53:22
Adam Curry: Thank you. Kevin
says I'm a pharmacist so a
1:53:25
health care professional but not
nearly in the weeds as your
1:53:28
neurotic neurologist friend a
couple episodes ago I'm speaking
1:53:31
on experience. My father passed
away live in years ago with
1:53:34
Parkinson's coupled with Lewy
body dementia. Yes, we've gotten
1:53:37
a lot of these emails, a lot of
good, detailed information. I've
1:53:42
been saying since 2019. Joe is a
mirror image of my father
1:53:47
freezing arms, gait, difficulty
memory issues, willing to bet
1:53:50
the farm hallucinations, if not
now, soon. There's no way you
1:53:54
can convince me otherwise. He
does not have that Joe. It's
1:53:57
sad. His family is pushing him
through an extremely difficult
1:54:00
mental condition. I'm not
necessarily hoping for his
1:54:03
demise, but wish we all in
Perkins media could freaking
1:54:07
understand what is going on. And
there's no way I want my dad
1:54:10
running the country seeing what
he went through. Thanks for all
1:54:13
you guys do. And I wanted to add
a another note, since one of our
1:54:19
producers sent this in, it was I
mean, I said can I read this
1:54:23
because as sad as it is that my
father in law was diagnosed with
1:54:28
Parkinson's over 20 years ago.
Through his many medications he
1:54:31
was able to function with little
issue until last year, that's
1:54:35
when the hallucinations started
and they escalated quickly to
1:54:38
the point that we have placed
him in special care. From what
1:54:41
we have research on the subject
most Parkinson's patients will
1:54:44
eventually succumb to Lewy Body
Dementia if they live long
1:54:46
enough. He says I agree 100%
With your producers that talked
1:54:51
about her mother's cat in the
plant and the anger and refusal
1:54:55
of help. If you didn't laugh,
you'd cry. My father in law's
1:54:58
convinced he's the president of
cow herbal soup, and that and
1:55:02
that all these and that all his
gold is hiding in the floor
1:55:05
tiles. For the record he has no
gold and was the Deputy Fire
1:55:09
Chief of the city for most of
his life and it's a horrible
1:55:11
disease that's
1:55:13
John C Dvorak: terrible well I
want to play a bonus clip for
1:55:15
the people that like to listen
to this part of the show. Oh
1:55:18
because we got into a debate we
got to debate about this because
1:55:25
this is Biden Raiden from the
prompter and then just out of
1:55:27
the blue says What are you
doing? Yeah, and you thought it
1:55:31
was a in your might be right we
need to but he played this this
1:55:35
Biden clip.
1:55:36
Unknown: I'm gonna go to South
Korea and we're gonna get to
1:55:37
chip What are you doing? I'm
gonna get Japan and Korea. Yeah,
1:55:44
Adam Curry: so I saw you post
about it. And I had to post
1:55:47
because you were like what is
going on insinuating that I
1:55:51
think someone posted in that
thread like oh is his they
1:55:54
couldn't he couldn't hear and
then they were talking to him in
1:55:57
his ear. Now. This is a typical
prompter fail where they
1:55:59
scrolled too fast. I think just
scrolled up too fast. Could you
1:56:03
just can see him looking right
at the prompter.
1:56:06
John C Dvorak: He looks up when
he says what are you doing?
1:56:08
Because we know
1:56:10
Adam Curry: it's because of the
prompter scrolled up and he's
1:56:12
looking about the prompt or see
if the words are there. Where
1:56:15
did they go? That to me was a
classic prompt or fail why
1:56:19
John C Dvorak: it does happen.
Where I've read from prom during
1:56:23
read. I've never said what are
you doing? When the prompter guy
1:56:27
falls asleep by the way which
does happen? Yes, it's a boring
1:56:31
job.
1:56:33
Adam Curry: Yeah, we used to
have prompter girl Christine,
1:56:37
and prompter boy John at MTV.
This is when the prompter was on
1:56:40
a literal conveyor belt with a
camera pointed at the conveyor
1:56:45
belt and they'd put big sheets
of paper and roll them
1:56:48
underneath the camera. This is
before we had digital digital
1:56:53
capability. And we have a little
control and we just roll this
1:56:57
conveyor belt back and forth and
had large type on the on the
1:57:00
event you had prompter formatted
paper. That's how old I am kids.
1:57:08
John C Dvorak: There you go. Why
don't you read this one? I'll
1:57:10
read the last one. Like this
1:57:12
Adam Curry: is from Eli the
coffee guy. Oh your buddy.
1:57:14
That's right. Like many of the
post COVID workforce it's it's
1:57:17
like the media stop trying and
it's just mailing it in. To
1:57:21
paraphrase Alexander
Solzhenitsyn, Solzhenitsyn salts
1:57:26
the need salts and eaten that
was close. It's like social
1:57:30
philosopher dude.
1:57:32
John C Dvorak: No, he's these
Ibiza novelist,
1:57:35
Adam Curry: novelist dude. To
quote, salts and Easter Alex,
1:57:44
Alex, Alex said we know they're
lying. They know they're lying
1:57:48
and they know that we know
they're lying but they are still
1:57:50
lying. In our country the lies
become not just a moral counted
1:57:54
category but a pillar of
industry. Adam John thank you
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Adam Curry: They actually got a
note from someone who said jobs
1:58:55
karma really works. And it is
Who was this? The Baron of Old
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Bay I was the lead off executive
producer requested jobs calm on
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the last show. My team of 25 was
told of our layoff on April 15.
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I needed to find a job inside
the software company where I'd
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been for 24 years or I would be
gone by August 30 The day after
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the show I got the job offer I
wanted I should be says I should
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have requested jobs karma sooner
or sent my resume to Linda Lou
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John C Dvorak: went after that
too. Oh, I'm so glad to read
1:59:36
both these.
1:59:37
Adam Curry: Please. It's Dame
sand cat from Pahrump, Nevada
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$200 rump rump says any Al
Sharpton will do please
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Unknown: ESP ICT and indeed
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Adam Curry: Caroline Kay is from
Austin, Texas. She is our final
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Associate Executive Producer.
Big yellow box Hear that means
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Bucks longtime listeners first
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I've been listening to the show
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Unknown: than de deuced.
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John C Dvorak: have a lot of
truckers in we have a lot of
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truckers that listen to this
show. And
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Adam Curry: And rightly so.
Rightly so. Cops to a lot of
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yes, a lot of people have a lot
of time on their hands. Let's
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see, count him as a producer
that can give you boots on the
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ground information on the
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just let us know when it's
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for what you do. I worked as a
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lobbyist in DC, I can tell you,
this is our producers, man, we
2:00:57
John C Dvorak: get to craziest
producers I so it's always
2:01:01
amazing. So amazing.
2:01:03
Adam Curry: It is truly amazing.
She continues, I can tell you
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with 100% certainty, there's
always another side to every
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story. And I'm thankful you guys
give voice to that and explore
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alternative theories. We both
feel frustrated and angry about
2:01:18
what the MSM and five of them
and the radical left have done
2:01:21
to Trump and now the inevitable
attempt on his life yesterday.
2:01:24
Sadly, we aren't surprised. Is
this all part of the plot to
2:01:28
make sure Trump is elected?
Well, as it seems like it'll
2:01:30
help. We look forward to your
analysis. Also question for you.
2:01:34
Do you think Trump will do
anything to thwart the unit
2:01:37
party? And how will he scale
back the administrative state?
2:01:41
He's tried before but did not
succeed.
2:01:43
John C Dvorak: And he won't say
that next time.
2:01:45
Adam Curry: We'd love to hear
your thoughts on how he plans to
2:01:47
do this, especially if he is
handling a failing economy and
2:01:51
threat of multiple international
wars. I've seen firsthand with
2:01:54
the overreach of the executive
branch.
2:01:59
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God, where
are we in Russian government is
2:02:03
the primary issue facing
2:02:05
Adam Curry: our thoughts? Well,
lots actually, I do have a while
2:02:10
I play clip in a minute,
listening to no agendas help us
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keep the news of perspective and
stay strong against enormous
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pressure to take the COVID
vaccine for ourselves and our
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three Human Resources good for
you to remove our kids from
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public school in favor of a
charter school. And to know that
2:02:24
we really should be focused on
the potholes. Thank you both.
2:02:28
And thank you to all the no
agenda producers who have
2:02:30
donated to keep John and Adam
going, I request I love my truck
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and a biscuit on my birthday
jingle. And actually I wanted to
2:02:36
play since she asked that there
was a very interesting, very
2:02:42
interesting interview, David
Stockman had this analysis about
2:02:48
possibly a path for Bobby, the
OP.
2:02:51
Unknown: So it is very possible
that by the time we get to
2:02:55
November, that the Democrats
will throw in the towel is their
2:03:00
candidate will come in very
badly behind Trump, they will
2:03:05
have no way of stopping Trump,
except to line up behind Robert
2:03:10
Hansen. And throw a lot of those
blue state boats in the US House
2:03:16
to Kennedy. So it sounds far
fetched. And I agree. There's
2:03:20
no, you know, low probability
scenario. But it's possible that
2:03:25
in a hung jury in the Electoral
College, and a down to the wire
2:03:31
vote in the US House come
January 2025. Set you could
2:03:35
elect a third party candidate
who basically would turn the
2:03:40
system upside down. Kennedy is
the one guy that can get us out
2:03:46
of the Forever wars. And he's
the one guy that understands
2:03:50
that government is not your
friend most of the time, and it
2:03:54
needs to be curtail and contain
for the constitutional process.
2:04:00
He's your real constitutionalist
which is unbelievable this drop
2:04:04
is never read the Constitution
by it does everything he can to
2:04:09
override it and set it aside
that
2:04:12
Adam Curry: Bobby never gets any
any play here. So I figured I'd
2:04:15
add that I don't think
2:04:17
John C Dvorak: I'm not talking I
love what I do
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Unknown: resist. We might
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Adam Curry: oh wait that's not
what she wants. She wanted a
2:04:23
biscuit.
2:04:24
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. There
2:04:26
you go.
2:04:27
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John C Dvorak: Off the Wall Clip
to play? Okay. You know, we're
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sure the United States spends
all his money on armaments that
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we just give away to other
nations in the form of suppose
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it loans and whatever. Military
here
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Adam Curry: military gear,
here's
2:06:04
John C Dvorak: what China does
with their resources. This is
2:06:08
China in Africa.
2:06:09
Unknown: A new report says
Beijing's mouthpiece now has a
2:06:12
presence in over 70% of African
countries, while US funded
2:06:17
broadcaster Voice of America
only has one Bureau on the
2:06:21
continent.
2:06:22
There's an impact in the sense
that China is able to establish
2:06:26
and instill certain media and
ideological narratives on the
2:06:31
African continent. Narratives
such as solidarity with China,
2:06:37
you know, sort of trying to
export authoritarian models onto
2:06:40
the African continent. Herman
2:06:41
Wasserman, head of the
University of Cape town's Media
2:06:44
Studies Department detailed one
case, he told me about times
2:06:48
that he's seen Chinese media
reports outline how US companies
2:06:52
are profiting from Russia's war
on Ukraine. He said the media
2:06:56
reports suggested that
Washington is keeping the war
2:06:59
going because it's making money.
But what makes Africa a target
2:07:03
for influence. The continent has
abundant rare earth minerals,
2:07:07
resources critical for making
green energy products. African
2:07:11
countries also hold over a
quarter of the voting power in
2:07:15
the United Nations. An economic
pressure on those countries
2:07:18
could sway their choice of
votes. Zooming out, Chinese
2:07:22
state controlled broadcasters
have a big reach in Africa. In
2:07:26
Kenya alone, China's state
broadcaster shengguan reaches
2:07:29
more than 10 million people
every month. China's propaganda
2:07:33
department also provides free
content for African state and
2:07:37
private broadcasters. In
addition, it trains many young
2:07:41
African journalists and since
them on paid trips to China,
2:07:44
China
2:07:45
trains a lot of journalists
actually probably trains more
2:07:48
journalists, more African
journalists than any other
2:07:51
western country. Ah,
2:07:52
Adam Curry: not surprising. And
did you hear about Uganda since
2:07:56
we're on Africa news for a
moment new gold discovery and
2:08:01
Uganda valued at close to $13
trillion
2:08:08
John C Dvorak: how does that lay
there languishing for all these
2:08:11
years
2:08:13
Adam Curry: and will that affect
the gold price you think it
2:08:15
would like all of a sudden
there's this new glut of gold
2:08:19
the glut of gold there you go
2:08:21
John C Dvorak: well it depends
on how hard it is to get out
2:08:24
Adam Curry: well they there they
got a got a picture on the just
2:08:28
lick they're like just pans of
it. Oh look at all this gold and
2:08:33
then and this is the mistake
they're now saying hey, maybe we
2:08:37
should do a gold backed currency
Listen guys, Gadhafi this is not
2:08:46
so
2:08:46
John C Dvorak: you know you're
gonna find you're gonna find
2:08:49
gold a big pile of it like
trillions of dollars worth you'd
2:08:52
want to cordon off the whole
area and say oh there's hardly
2:08:55
any here because you know what
you've done is pulled a you know
2:09:00
an Osborne and pre announced all
this gold Yeah, probably not a
2:09:03
not a good strategy is going to
it will lower the price.
2:09:08
Adam Curry: Some climate change
news this. This one was
2:09:13
interesting. Maybe you know more
about about this phenomenon. New
2:09:17
research has revealed that the
solid inner core of our planet
2:09:21
may have reversed its rotation.
A comparison of earthquakes
2:09:26
seismic waves from the past
decade with those from similar
2:09:30
quakes in the 1960s showed that
the inner cores rotation
2:09:34
relative to Earth's outer layers
stopped from 2009 to 2020. And
2:09:40
now it may have reversed
direction something that appears
2:09:44
to happen every 60 to 70 years
or so, while more research is
2:09:49
needed. If the cause rotation
has reversed. A number of things
2:09:54
could be impacted such as the
length of our day, Earth's
2:09:58
geomagnetic field and Even our
climate. Now I've heard about
2:10:02
the poles reversing. And this is
something that's happened
2:10:05
historically. But I didn't know
about Earth's inner core.
2:10:09
John C Dvorak: Reverse the zero
10 record that accounts for the
2:10:12
poles. The magnetic field, it's
creates a magnetic field by
2:10:17
spinning around, I guess. Why
don't you think about this?
2:10:20
Well,
2:10:20
Adam Curry: I'll tell you, I'll
tell you one thing. This has
2:10:22
been a beautiful summer. It's 70
degrees in the evening. It's,
2:10:25
it's phenomenal here in Texas
right now. And it's well into
2:10:30
July. This is this is not on par
with the past couple of summers.
2:10:37
Even though on record,
2:10:39
John C Dvorak: this summer we
have here or the July we have
2:10:43
here is very much the same, as
usual, is overcast and cold.
2:10:51
Adam Curry: And this field was
named weirdos.
2:10:54
John C Dvorak: In the 60s in the
1800s is what Mark Twain was
2:10:57
bitching about saying, you know,
the coldest winter I've ever
2:11:00
spent was the July in San
Francisco. It's still true. I
2:11:05
was reading I was not I don't
you know, this is just normal.
2:11:08
It's annoying.
2:11:09
Adam Curry: I was reading
another Mark Twain quote, quote
2:11:12
the other day with something
that went like this. Politicians
2:11:16
are like diapers both should be
changed frequently. Does that
2:11:23
sound like a Twain quote to you?
2:11:25
John C Dvorak: It sounds like
one of the it may be maybe an
2:11:29
end of his little long and then
2:11:30
Adam Curry: violence case, we
got both. So back to climate
2:11:35
change for a second one of the
one of the big promises, is
2:11:40
flying cars on batteries. It's
going to be great. Everybody,
2:11:44
everybody will have a flying
car. There'll be no emissions,
2:11:48
you get to traffic, it's all
going to end is great. There's
2:11:51
100 companies at least all
soliciting investor money. What
2:11:58
they never mentioned is your
actual radius is about 60 miles,
2:12:01
you can fly for about 27
minutes, and then the battery
2:12:04
has to either be changed or
recharged. And they were
2:12:07
supposed to have a big demo of
actually, I mean, it's not a
2:12:10
flying car. It's a helicopter.
It's a it's a it's basically a
2:12:13
drone, you've probably seen it
with the big, circular disc on
2:12:17
top with all of the propellers.
And the body looks like a
2:12:21
helicopter body. It's a very
ugly, very ugly thing. And I was
2:12:24
supposed to be debuting an air
taxiing people for the Paris
2:12:29
Olympics, which is about
2:12:31
John C Dvorak: this area they're
supposed to be we're gonna have
2:12:33
one of these air type electric
air taxis around the Bay Area
2:12:36
supposedly, yeah,
2:12:37
Adam Curry: Dream On next
2:12:38
Unknown: is one of the many
logistical questions still
2:12:41
hanging over the Paris Olympics
two weeks from the opening
2:12:44
ceremony. Will there be flying
taxis? Well, he had to
2:12:47
disappoint us tech editor Peter
O'Brien.
2:12:50
Adam Curry: By the way, I'd like
that introduction. Here to here
2:12:54
to disappoint us. Just perfect.
Peter, the
2:12:57
Unknown: idea has seen its wings
clipped in the end.
2:13:00
It has to be honest, I'm quite
quite sick of flying taxis now.
2:13:04
We see them every year all the
trade shows they're there every
2:13:07
year at Viva tech. I've not been
in one. Have you been in one? I
2:13:10
don't think anyone's actually,
you know, no one's really flown
2:13:14
in them apart from very select
few people though they've been
2:13:16
sort of bandied around for
years. Case in point last year's
2:13:19
Paris Air Show the Paris
airports Company announced with
2:13:23
its German startup partner
volocopter, that by the Olympics
2:13:27
this year, they would have
electric vertical takeoff and
2:13:30
landing aircraft services in
time for the games. In other
2:13:34
words, human sized drones
carrying carrying passengers
2:13:38
flitting around the city. Now,
they then started to sort of
2:13:43
backtrack, and we heard that a
few months ago volocopter saying
2:13:47
that there would not necessarily
be commercial flights available
2:13:51
because even though they did say
they had backing from the French
2:13:53
Civil Aviation Authority, they
would need a host of other
2:13:57
approvals for this. And then
they then started talking about
2:14:00
demonstration flights featuring
celebrities VIPs and athletes
2:14:05
with two weeks to go they don't
even have this French Aviation
2:14:08
Authority approval to even run
demonstration flights on the
2:14:12
routes they're hoping to do so
let alone commercial flights,
2:14:15
which I say as I say would
require a whole load more
2:14:18
approvals.
2:14:21
Adam Curry: It's never going to
happen. The weight to power to
2:14:25
weight ratio is ridiculously
stupid. So then we have this I
2:14:31
don't know where this story
came. I got it from a number of
2:14:35
different people about it's too
hot for rescue helicopters to
2:14:39
fly. In this incredible heatwave
we're having and on Yahoo. They
2:14:46
so they're talking about extreme
heat baking the West emergency
2:14:51
helicopters struggled to fly
they literally show a picture of
2:14:55
a helicopter in the UK, just to
make a stupid You know, with a
2:15:00
GE registration, and they show
an MD 902. I'm very familiar
2:15:05
with the F flown at the MD 902,
which has a, an operating
2:15:10
temperature of minus, it's like
minus 40 and plus 127. And by
2:15:16
the way, for every 1000 feet,
you you go up in altitude, the
2:15:21
temperature drops by three
degrees to two and a half to
2:15:25
four degrees, I think depending
on where you are. And so a lot
2:15:28
of these rescue helicopters are
saying, but we can't fly. And I
2:15:32
will say to that there are
helicopters that are
2:15:34
specifically made for high and
hot temperature. And if your
2:15:40
helicopter can't fly to save
one, you don't have the right
2:15:42
gear. So I don't know what what
the stories are about all of a
2:15:46
sudden that tiny warming climate
change, but you need you need
2:15:51
different a different
helicopter, there are
2:15:53
helicopters that are causing air
density is the problem. That's
2:15:56
really it's not that the engines
melting or the or the the
2:16:00
controls can't handle it. It's
the air density, which
2:16:03
definitely becomes a lot less
dense with heat. But there are n
2:16:07
different blade configure as a
whole bunch of ways that this is
2:16:11
solved. So I don't know if
people are maybe they want new
2:16:15
gear. And we need new helicopter
or you're talking new
2:16:18
helicopters. That must be it.
But I just got a lot of people
2:16:21
asking that question, so I
figured I'd answer it.
2:16:26
John C Dvorak: You did a great
job.
2:16:28
Adam Curry: Thank you. And then
this news which came to us part
2:16:33
of the cyber pandemic as
predicted
2:16:36
Unknown: yet another data breach
this time at AT and T and nearly
2:16:39
all of its customers are
affected. at&t revealed just
2:16:43
today I crystal the records of
calls and texts of 10s of
2:16:46
millions of cell phone users and
many non customers were exposed
2:16:50
as well. The wireless company
says the data was illegally
2:16:53
downloaded and a third party
cloud platform. at&t says their
2:16:57
breach includes data capture
between May 1 of 2022 and
2:17:01
October 31 of that same year.
Plus it also includes records
2:17:06
from January 2 to 2023. For a
very small number of customers.
2:17:10
at&t has more than 100 million
wireless customers and all
2:17:14
here's what the stolen logs
contain a record of every number
2:17:18
a customer called or texted, the
number of times they interacted
2:17:21
and the duration of those calls.
at&t says the data does not
2:17:25
contain the content of calls or
texts, or other personal
2:17:29
information like social security
numbers and dates of birth.
2:17:32
However, the company
acknowledges that publicly
2:17:34
available tools can often link
names with specific phone
2:17:38
numbers. The company admits it
learned about it back in April.
2:17:42
You might recall that was while
the company was dealing with an
2:17:44
unrelated major data leak. TNT
released a statement saying in
2:17:49
part, we launched an
investigation and engaged
2:17:51
leading cybersecurity experts to
understand the nature and scope
2:17:55
of the criminal activity. We
have taken steps to close off
2:17:59
the illegal access point. That
goes on to say the company is
2:18:03
cooperating with law enforcement
and reports at least one person
2:18:06
has been apprehended so
2:18:07
far that our Justice says it is
investigating the incident at&t
2:18:11
promising to defy current and
former customers whose
2:18:14
information was involved in this
hack and provide them with
2:18:16
resources to help protect the
information moving forward.
2:18:19
Adam Curry: This is so the
reporting is so poor This is
2:18:22
they're just reading press
releases at this point. This is
2:18:26
part of the snow snowflake
issue. Snowflake is this company
2:18:30
that does external data for
companies and they they're the
2:18:33
ones that have all these
problems and from what I
2:18:35
understand it's coming from
probably from the exploiting
2:18:39
Confluence you remember this
bike maybe a year ago? I don't
2:18:45
know if it was a zero day but
somehow the you know Atlassian
2:18:49
they have all they bought all
these different programs. They
2:18:52
have JIRA and Confluence and
another one I'm sure and
2:18:57
Confluence I mean we use that at
me vo but that's been
2:19:01
compromised at some some crazy
low level and it's just that's
2:19:05
just been a leaking sieve and a
lot of government a lot of
2:19:10
government contractor
contractors use it government
2:19:13
use it in general but he does
like no reporting on it. And and
2:19:20
even funnier, the award winning
technology podcast pivot with
2:19:25
your buddy Cara. Cara go ahead
Swisher. They're all they do ad
2:19:32
reads. And the and Atlassian
advertises on their podcast. Do
2:19:36
you think they would handle this
issue? I think they would report
2:19:40
on it.
2:19:42
John C Dvorak: Well, not if they
want to keep their advertiser.
2:19:45
Exactly.
2:19:48
Adam Curry: But at this point, I
mean, I wasn't AT and T customer
2:19:54
and one of those previous leaks
leaked all of my information.
2:19:58
And they are how many days Front
offers do I need to get from
2:20:01
companies that say, oh, we'll
give you a year off of dark box
2:20:07
or whatever, you know, all these
different companies that that
2:20:11
protect you protect your
identity, it's compromised, your
2:20:14
compromise. Everything is
compromised. It's no good and
2:20:18
the reporting is poor. We should
start a tech show.
2:20:24
John C Dvorak: Because everyone
is so interested. The did you
2:20:29
what? What was? So what's the
status of this fiber going down?
2:20:33
Adam Curry: My fiber? Yeah, no,
they didn't tell me
2:20:37
John C Dvorak: up again. Oh,
yeah. No,
2:20:39
Adam Curry: it was down for
about eight hours. And you know,
2:20:42
I diligently go on the website,
and I type in my address, which
2:20:46
I'm sure is being leaked
somewhere. And then they and
2:20:49
they say, well, there's no
outage. And then I go to the
2:20:51
chat bot. And I go through all
the questions until it finally
2:20:55
says, Would you like to speak to
a human? Yes, please. And then
2:20:59
you get little dot dot dot
bubbling. Oh, hi. Looking up
2:21:04
your data. Okay. All right. I
see. Yeah. Already. Did you
2:21:08
check on the outage? Yeah, I
checked on the outage. There's
2:21:10
nothing there. Let me check your
line. Via five minutes later.
2:21:14
Well, it looks like you are in
the area of an outage. And then
2:21:18
also an outage shows up on their
outage map will text you when
2:21:22
it's back up? No. It's also
poor.
2:21:26
John C Dvorak: When you went to
what's the provider frontier,
2:21:29
Adam Curry: which they bought up
the FiOS system from was that
2:21:33
Verizon Fios. And in general is
good. I mean, it's I haven't had
2:21:38
a problem for at least a year.
It goes down yet. Maybe once a
2:21:42
year. There's something but they
did not tell me what's
2:21:44
happening.
2:21:47
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of clips from Scott Ritter
2:21:51
analyzing the Ukraine air
defenses that are that keep
2:21:55
wanting more money from us. And
more, more,
2:21:58
Adam Curry: more gear. Yes. And
the Dutch f6 teams
2:22:02
John C Dvorak: and Scots kind of
a boring guy but he I think he's
2:22:05
accurate with his analysis. So I
thought I clipped this in play
2:22:09
it Ukraine
2:22:10
Unknown: seems to have a
particular desire for the
2:22:13
Patriot air defense system, but
it will take whatever it can
2:22:17
get, whether it be NASAMS
whether it be the Irish T
2:22:21
whether it be the French Mamba,
they're just looking for modern
2:22:25
air defense systems. The problem
is how do you reconstruct
2:22:30
integrated air defense umbrella
when you don't have an existing
2:22:35
umbrella under which you will be
allowed to maneuver these newly
2:22:41
acquired air defense batteries
into place, set them up, get
2:22:44
them prepared to fight. You see,
when Ukraine was initially
2:22:47
provided with these NATO air
defense systems, the Patriots
2:22:51
NASAMS Iris de Mamba, they had a
Soviet era air defense umbrella
2:22:57
that consisted primarily of the
s 300 air defense system, but
2:23:01
there were others the book and
other systems in place. And so
2:23:04
Russia had to contend with an
existing capable air defense
2:23:08
system in order to get to the
air defense systems that were
2:23:12
being provided by NATO. This
allowed Ukraine the time to put
2:23:16
these systems where they wanted
to put them and to operate them
2:23:20
roughly the way they were
intended to be operated,
2:23:24
including with great assistance
from Western technical
2:23:27
specialists, Western
intelligence, etc. But now we
2:23:30
have a situation where this air
defense umbrella no longer
2:23:33
exists and when Ukraine brings
in their air defense systems,
2:23:37
they have to do to so in a very
makeshift haphazard manner. They
2:23:42
aren't able to use them the way
they were designed. This
2:23:45
requires trickery, you know,
turning on and off radars firing
2:23:50
missiles before radar lock is
taking place. It's a very
2:23:53
inefficient way to use air
defense systems. And because
2:23:57
Russia is able to put an
intelligence surveillance and
2:23:59
reconnaissance umbrella over
Ukraine anytime Ukraine uses air
2:24:03
defense it's detected and then
the Russians in very short
2:24:07
order, locate and destroy the
systems. Why isn't that
2:24:11
Adam Curry: the whole point so
we can get more money to send
2:24:14
more
2:24:15
John C Dvorak: guy get trumpet
just to stop the stupid war.
2:24:20
Anyway, goes on his muzzle rapid
2:24:23
Unknown: pretty much Ukraine's
in one of these vicious cycles
2:24:26
where there simply isn't enough
weapon systems available to
2:24:32
allow Ukraine to build the air
defense umbrella it needs in
2:24:37
Russia will continue to destroy
those weapons systems that are
2:24:40
provided by the West, depleting
the West's own supply of air
2:24:44
defense system. This is one of
the detrimental consequences of
2:24:48
the attritional warfare that's
being waged today in Ukraine.
2:24:52
Russia is able to destroy
Ukrainian military equipment
2:24:56
provided by the West especially
air defense and Iran. far
2:25:00
greater than the West can
resupply Ukraine or even
2:25:04
replenish its own stocks. This
is a losing equation. And
2:25:08
without air defense, Ukraine is
literally an open target for
2:25:13
Russia to take apart as it best
sees fit. This is one of the
2:25:16
consequences of the war in
Ukraine. And it's one of the
2:25:21
issues that this NATO Summit has
not been able to resolve in
2:25:25
favor of Ukraine. Indeed, no
issue has been resolved in favor
2:25:29
of Ukraine. That's the reality
of NATO today.
2:25:32
Adam Curry: Oh, it's even worse
than that. a stern warning from
2:25:37
Moscow about the latest
development in Germany,
2:25:41
Unknown: Russia is stationing
need us long range missiles here
2:25:45
in Germany could mean that
European capital cities become
2:25:48
military targets. The Biden
administration announced the
2:25:52
deployment from 2026 at a NATO
summit in Washington earlier
2:25:56
this week. Now the agreement
includes Tomahawk and hypersonic
2:26:00
missiles, these weapons are
nuclear capable and have a range
2:26:03
of more than 2000 kilometers.
The US and German governments
2:26:07
say the development is immense
their commitment to NATO and
2:26:11
European Defence
2:26:12
Adam Curry: the German citizens
who believe it or not, or just
2:26:15
people have banded together and
protest and when you do that,
2:26:19
what do you do? Well, you get
all of your country singers
2:26:22
together and do it We Are the
World type deal. And they said
2:26:26
this is no us playing it because
obviously it's all in German.
2:26:31
It's kind of black and white
video and it's all the you know,
2:26:33
it's like the heavy metal guys
singing the folk singer girls
2:26:36
singing and and like some opera
guy singing and they all take
2:26:40
turns. And the the the chorus is
we're not going to give you our
2:26:45
sons. We're not going to give
you our sons to fight your
2:26:48
battles. A little late, Germany,
2:26:53
John C Dvorak: I say a little
late. Yeah.
2:26:58
Adam Curry: That means the
people don't matter anymore.
2:27:01
They don't matter to any of
these
2:27:02
John C Dvorak: journeys. Leaders
are no good. They are not.
2:27:07
Adam Curry: They are not.
2:27:10
John C Dvorak: But as Katie
Hopkins says, at least they're
2:27:12
clear.
2:27:14
Adam Curry: Let's do a little
bit of Big Pharma news here AI
2:27:17
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2:27:20
sorry, not a development. It's
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with a daily weight loss pill.
Ariel ratcheted back with what
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we know. Good morning again.
Aereo Hey,
2:27:32
Unknown: good morning again to
you, Michael. It's approved this
2:27:34
would be one more tool in the
fight against obesity Pfizer
2:27:37
this morning announcing it has
selected a formula for its once
2:27:40
a day GLP one receptor weight
loss pill. The pills intent is
2:27:44
to act similarly, as a as those
weekly shots like the Gobi and
2:27:48
zet bound that suppress appetite
and lower food intake. While
2:27:51
last winter, Pfizer decided to
end a trial of a pill that you
2:27:55
take twice a day after 50% of
the participants reported
2:27:59
experiencing side effects like
nausea and vomiting. They come
2:28:02
and they stop taking those pills
by the way the company decided
2:28:05
to end instead rather to channel
its efforts into creating a pill
2:28:09
patients would only take once a
day Pfizer will be developing
2:28:13
the pill through the end of the
year and will start trials after
2:28:16
that to determine the safety and
efficacy and tolerability before
2:28:20
submitting it to the FDA for
approval. Rebecca so much
2:28:23
popularity among these drugs you
can see why they're trying to
2:28:26
get one out there as well. Ariel
Thank you
2:28:29
Adam Curry: know, they're all
trying to get it onto Medicare.
2:28:30
That's that's really a goal.
boots on the ground. John and
2:28:37
Adam by work at a third party
administrator for group health
2:28:41
benefit plans. I know I'm a real
hoot. This is our producers
2:28:46
enjoying your coverage of the
GLP one craze I'll be keeping my
2:28:49
ear to the ground at work for
any info you might find useful
2:28:52
decided to send this off our
chief legal officer told me how
2:28:57
it's easier for patients to get
coverage now for bariatric
2:29:00
surgery, because it's cheaper
for the insurers than GLP ones.
2:29:06
Bariatric Surgery tends to be a
covered service for our clients,
2:29:09
which is large employers, but
patients are usually required to
2:29:13
jump through a lot of insurance
hoops because it's so expensive.
2:29:15
The thought of that surgery
actually being preferred by
2:29:18
insurers really points out to
how out of control the GLP ones
2:29:22
have become. Example my co
worker has a family member who
2:29:26
is roughly 40 pounds overweight,
they were denied Medicaid in
2:29:29
Nevada coverage, Nevada for GOP
ones and we're guided towards
2:29:33
bariatric surgery instead which
was approved and her two cents.
2:29:40
Driving people towards the
surgery is very extreme,
2:29:42
expensive and unnecessary option
when you could just incentivize
2:29:46
healthy behavior. A little fat
shaming paired with health
2:29:50
benefits for nutritional
counseling and personal training
2:29:53
could go a long way to saving
insurers money and saving
2:29:56
patients from the extra health
risks that come with surgery or
2:29:59
medication. Since Well, I can
tell you that I've heard from
2:30:03
other people in the medical
device industry, other
2:30:06
producers, that they've got a
lot of lobbyists on K Street
2:30:12
pushing for more bariatric
surgery because they're
2:30:15
basically going out of business
because of GLP. One. So these
2:30:19
are the fights that are going
on. Yeah, have a surgery. That's
2:30:24
better. Oh, take a pill. It's
better. Is
2:30:30
Unknown: it less?
2:30:33
Adam Curry: Easy for you to say?
Easy for you to say? Update on
2:30:38
our astronauts.
2:30:39
Unknown: NASA has acknowledged
potential alternatives to
2:30:42
Boeing's Starliner if needed to
bring back astronauts to Earth
2:30:47
from the International Space
Station. So
2:30:48
the Starliner brought the two
astronauts to Space Station on
2:30:52
his first mission carrying
people but the pair have been
2:30:55
docked far longer than planned.
NASA said, NASA says the pair
2:30:59
may return at the end of the
month pending results of testing
2:31:01
on a faulty propulsion system.
And the space agency said
2:31:05
Boeing's Starliner still remains
the primary option for what
2:31:09
Adam Curry: you clip is coming
in and out. Yeah, I know. But
2:31:12
everyone else can hear just not
you. Boeing's
2:31:15
Unknown: Starliner still remains
the primary option for returning
2:31:18
crew. But officials did
acknowledge that a Space X
2:31:21
capsule could be part of a
contingency plan for returning
2:31:25
them if necessary. At the
moment, officials don't see any
2:31:27
reason just yet to turn to
another transportation option
2:31:31
that we like options.
2:31:33
Adam Curry: Alright, so let me
explain what what happened. So
2:31:37
after both my drives blew up,
2:31:42
John C Dvorak: you can explain
what happened with the Starliner
2:31:45
Adam Curry: now they're gonna
have to come back on the on Elon
2:31:48
Z
2:31:49
John C Dvorak: deal. Yeah, there
you go. Elon is going to lord it
2:31:51
over him after that.
2:31:53
Adam Curry: And I guess rightly
so. Yeah, I
2:31:56
John C Dvorak: think so too.
2:31:59
Adam Curry: So both of these my
all my machines have now blown
2:32:06
up ever blowing
2:32:08
John C Dvorak: up problem?
2:32:09
Adam Curry: I do. And then as I
say, I bet
2:32:11
John C Dvorak: you you know, how
about getting some ups is in
2:32:13
there. Maybe that's got
something to do with it? No, you
2:32:17
don't think so?
2:32:19
Adam Curry: That my mistake was
to listen to you and ghost my
2:32:21
drive.
2:32:23
John C Dvorak: But what else
were you gonna do? Well,
2:32:25
Adam Curry: I don't know. But I
Ghost Ghost. I'll tell you what
2:32:29
happened. And I think it's my
fault. Okay, well, that will
2:32:31
that make you feel better. So I
don't
2:32:33
John C Dvorak: really care one
way or the other. I'm just
2:32:35
telling you that most people
ghost the drive and you're fine
2:32:38
and dandy afterwards, unless
they have some power issues. So
2:32:43
Adam Curry: I ghosted the drive.
And which worked fine. I had a
2:32:49
perfect copy. And the machine
was working now it's a surface a
2:32:53
Surface Pro eight. So you can't
actually get to the battery or
2:32:56
the drive. Of course, Microsoft,
that was cheap, weird. Now I was
2:33:01
cheap. And I so then I decided,
well, let me see how it works.
2:33:09
And so I decided to try and boot
up from the ghost to drive. And
2:33:14
that's when it all fell apart.
And then both boot records or
2:33:18
master boot records or whatever
it is exactly, I don't know, got
2:33:24
corrupted. I couldn't save it
with the rescue disk. I couldn't
2:33:27
I couldn't restore it. The only
you know, have you ever been in
2:33:31
the automatic repair loop? Have
you ever seen so
2:33:34
John C Dvorak: I would never run
that in a million years but
2:33:36
doesn't do
2:33:37
Adam Curry: anything is it just
keeps going into a loop? It was
2:33:40
horrible. Yeah, it doesn't do
anything. It was it was
2:33:43
absolutely horrible. Now I was
lucky. Lucky that Jeremy Allen
2:33:50
had sent me a Dell 3830 at
slimline computer and and he
2:33:57
loaded windows 10 on it and he
took out all the bloatware and
2:34:00
he really it really was very
kind of him they sent it with a
2:34:04
with a keyboard and mouse and
some green tips, armor piercing
2:34:10
the shells some rounds you know
the usual stuff that you send in
2:34:17
along with, you know, an ankle
holster all the stuff you need.
2:34:20
So I spent Saturday rebuilding
everything from scratch. I mean,
2:34:25
I have all the data I have all
of our clips and then my my show
2:34:29
prep and all that stuff. But I
had to rebuild the whole playout
2:34:33
system this thing called an
Error List. And over the years
2:34:36
I've done a lot of custom
configuration. And what I was I
2:34:40
was doing clips and this is from
yesterday I was and that's what
2:34:44
I think happened here to make
long story even longer. I was
2:34:48
running it through the through
the road caster and you know the
2:34:51
road caster just hooks into the
window sound system. And now I
2:34:55
understand why you sound so good
all of a sudden, is because
2:35:00
Astok somehow it recognizes two
of the sound cards in the road
2:35:04
caster, as is like headphone
interfaces for Skype or
2:35:10
something like that. And it
automatically selects those and
2:35:13
puts all kinds of sound
enhancements on it. And it
2:35:18
wasn't until this morning when
I'm like I'm clipping like, this
2:35:21
sounds like crap, what is going
on here. And then, and I finally
2:35:25
dig into the actual sound sound
control panel, which is from
2:35:29
Windows three, that pops up. And
you click on these drivers and
2:35:35
in there, it's like, oh, well,
you look at that it has all
2:35:37
kinds of sound enhancements pre
selected for your convenience.
2:35:41
And I've that probably was
always you, you sound so good
2:35:46
today, compared to the years
years literally years, because I
2:35:51
figured this one small thing I
use I had to dial down your low
2:35:54
end everything it's amazing what
this is done now that I figured
2:35:57
it out.
2:35:58
John C Dvorak: Now I gotta go
listen to this show. Is that
2:36:00
what you're telling me? So I can
hear myself? Please.
2:36:02
Adam Curry: Whatever you do,
don't listen to our show. I
2:36:04
mean, that would be horrible.
That would just that was doing
2:36:06
the show. I usually don't listen
to it. Sad news came across my
2:36:10
desk yesterday. Breaking news to
tell you
2:36:12
Unknown: about fitness guru
Richard Simmons has died. Just
2:36:17
turned 76 years old yesterday.
In a post on X Friday. He said
2:36:21
he received numerous birthday
wishes and was responding to
2:36:25
many emails. Simmons was best
known for his aerobic exercises
2:36:30
and uplifting spirit he rose to
fame in the 70s and 80s and
2:36:34
establish several gyms across
the country while starring in
2:36:38
and producing energy fitness
videos.
2:36:41
Ah, that's a loss. You know?
Well, it
2:36:45
John C Dvorak: makes you wonder
about fitness. Have
2:36:47
Adam Curry: you ever met him?
No, I
2:36:49
John C Dvorak: haven't you have
you?
2:36:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did some
shifts. It was a time at MTV
2:36:54
when they would always bring in
guest V J's, which the regular
2:36:58
VJ is kind of detested. It's
like you know Paul Provenza was
2:37:02
there every week Paul prevent on
MTV? Not funny. Ever. They tried
2:37:09
to they tried to stay resented.
We resented it. Paul prevents a
2:37:14
Judy to nuda and emo like them
again. Yeah, so Richard Simmons
2:37:20
did meet emo. He's actually
pretty smart.
2:37:24
John C Dvorak: He is exactly the
way he portrayed. That's
2:37:28
Adam Curry: not an act of
Gilbert Godfrey. There's another
2:37:31
one Gilbert Godfrey was all man.
Oh, he's had so many guests,
2:37:36
Vijay shifts. It was annoying
because it devalued like oh,
2:37:40
well any douchebag can do this
apparently. Which I guess it's
2:37:43
true. But
2:37:44
John C Dvorak: this is a little
this is a little inside baseball
2:37:47
here. We're getting a little of
the long term simmering
2:37:50
complaint.
2:37:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, and then we
get preempted by Monty Python
2:37:55
and Beavis and Butthead. I mean,
it was horrible. John, it was a
2:37:57
grind. It was rough. It was
tough to be a VJ.
2:38:02
John C Dvorak: Z said good
looking hair. Yeah,
2:38:05
Adam Curry: yeah. And another
person who passed away
2:38:07
yesterday. Shannon Doherty from
Beverly Hills 90210.
2:38:12
John C Dvorak: How old was she?
She
2:38:13
Adam Curry: was he was very old
now. She was young. I think she
2:38:15
was in her early 50s And she had
horrible horrible cancer.
2:38:21
John C Dvorak: So turbo cancer
No,
2:38:23
Adam Curry: no, she had she had
cancer for quite a while that
2:38:27
Tina met her. She came when Tina
was working at the store here.
2:38:30
She would come in and she
2:38:32
John C Dvorak: lived down there.
2:38:34
Adam Curry: I think she had a
house around somewhere in hill
2:38:36
country or in Texas. Maybe
Houston let alone Hall was a
2:38:42
good store Let me see. I
2:38:48
John C Dvorak: would get to
watch stories. No, I'm sorry. I
2:38:51
got a Death Watch story kind of
an advanced Death Watch story.
2:38:56
Okay, this play this. This is
the Mexico port. So we talked
2:39:00
about China earlier. Let's talk
about um, some more. Navy
2:39:03
Unknown: leaders in charge of
Mexico's largest shipping port
2:39:06
say they are seeing an increase
in unregulated dual use
2:39:09
chemicals. The same chemicals
that are used in food and
2:39:13
medicine production can also be
used in producing meth and
2:39:16
fentanyl. And other officers say
the majority of these chemicals
2:39:20
are coming from communist China
2:39:22
Mexican naval officers say close
to 60% of the shipping
2:39:26
containers that enter the
country each day come to the
2:39:28
Manzanita port. When the
containers arrive. Officers say
2:39:33
only about 2% of the contents
are inspected, and total only
2:39:38
about 10% of the ships that dock
at the port are physically
2:39:41
searched. They note a full
search is conducted if it get
2:39:45
tipped off about illegal cargo.
The head of the Port says due to
2:39:50
its location the man's Ennio
port is ideal for transporting
2:39:53
cargo to North America, South
America and Asia. According to
2:39:58
US Drug Enforcement official
tolls. Mexico has long been the
2:40:02
source of most of the fentanyl
that comes into the US. Within
2:40:06
the last few years Mexican drug
cartels have stepped up exports
2:40:10
of meth to Australia, the
Netherlands and China. For the
2:40:14
first time Mexico was listed as
one of the world's top producers
2:40:19
of meth. That's according to the
UN's office of drugs and crime
2:40:23
report for June. The port
commander is raising concerns
2:40:27
about the increase of the dual
use chemicals. He says
2:40:31
international cooperation is
needed to help regulate the
2:40:35
transport of these chemicals.
It's
2:40:38
Adam Curry: amazing you buy a
strip of 12 ivermectin from
2:40:41
Mexico and the US Postal Service
stops it right away and send you
2:40:45
a nasty note but this no
problem.
2:40:49
John C Dvorak: Just send it
through. We I take it you tried
2:40:52
this ship in Mexico, many,
2:40:54
Adam Curry: many people have
have this at this stop from
2:40:56
Mexico. Yes. In Port kind of and
Shipping News. The pier in Gaza
2:41:05
is shutting down tonight
2:41:07
Unknown: this $230 million
dollar problem plagued here
2:41:12
built to provide desperately
needed aid to Gaza will soon
2:41:16
cease operations built by the US
military on President Biden
2:41:20
square. The Pier has been
operational only about 20 days
2:41:25
since its completion in May, due
to technical issues and rough
2:41:29
seas that the pier could not
handle. We were on the pier just
2:41:34
weeks ago, seeing the
destruction of Gaza behind me
2:41:37
makes you realize how important
humanitarian missions are to get
2:41:41
food into Gaza. But it is also
obvious how difficult it is on
2:41:45
this floating pier and you feel
it going up and down and you can
2:41:49
hear the clinging as well.
Despite the massive price tag
2:41:54
and the forced shutdowns, the
Pentagon called it a success
2:41:58
today, with the head of USAA
saying enough food has been
2:42:02
delivered to feed 450,000 people
for a month. But it is unclear
2:42:09
how much aid actually reached
the people after it crossed the
2:42:13
pier. Those Palestinians whose
situation grows more dire every
2:42:18
day, the UN saying famine has
spread throughout Gaza.
2:42:24
John C Dvorak: So let me get
this straight $320 million pier
2:42:29
that doesn't work. And you
already floated off how it
2:42:33
floated off already. And this is
a considered a success by the
2:42:37
Pentagon.
2:42:39
Adam Curry: It would have been
more successful if it had cost
2:42:40
half a billion
2:42:43
Unknown: wasn't believable
wasn't enough.
2:42:47
Adam Curry: I'm still watching
out for the downturn in AI.
2:42:50
Although I think Darren O'Neil
success with his art is a good
2:42:54
indicator. Chad GBT secretly
developing a new type of AI
2:43:01
reports Reuters is a broad
project strawberry. Yes, the way
2:43:07
strawberry works is a tightly
kept secret. Even within open AI
2:43:13
itself. The source reported to
Reuters of the project involves
2:43:18
a special way of processing an
AI model after it has been pre
2:43:22
trained on extensive data sets.
Its aim is to enable artificial
2:43:27
intelligence to not just
generate answers to queries, but
2:43:30
to plan ahead sufficiently to
conduct so called deep research
2:43:36
by navigating the internet
autonomously and reliably. What
2:43:42
could possibly go wrong? Reuters
said it had reviewed an internal
2:43:46
open AI document detailing a
plan for how the US firm could
2:43:49
deploy strawberry to perform
research. Googling basically,
2:43:54
however, the agency said it was
not able to establish when the
2:43:57
technology will become available
to the public. It's a work in
2:44:00
progress. And that brings me to
a boots on the ground you are
2:44:04
curious about the NVIDIA GB 200
Scientific Computing chip. And,
2:44:11
and we have a producer just to
give him his give you some
2:44:16
background on him. He's been
doing performance optimization
2:44:19
for scientific computer codes
for 15 years, worked for an
2:44:23
optimized scientific computing
models for Department of Defense
2:44:26
Department of Energy, academia
and industry led a team that was
2:44:30
part of the design and delivery
of the frontier supercomputer at
2:44:33
Oak Ridge National Lab optimize
scientific computer models for
2:44:38
many fields such as weather
forecasting, climate modeling,
2:44:42
that's where you that's where
you you stumbled on that one,
2:44:45
nuclear physics, acoustics and
more, Kenny says listening to
2:44:51
Episode 1673 about the NVIDIA GB
200 Super chip. The clip has
2:44:57
somebody claiming that the new
Blackwell chip will be great for
2:45:00
Scientific Computing, especially
for CFD, what that was the
2:45:04
website again, the flow, the
flow computations, CFD, I
2:45:09
John C Dvorak: forget what it
was computerized flow diagram. I
2:45:12
think that's it. Scientific
2:45:13
Adam Curry: Computing still
almost exclusively uses Fp 64
2:45:17
double precision floating point
for calculations. The Blackwell
2:45:21
chip has Fp 64 performance of 90
teraflops, which is only a 25%
2:45:27
increase over the H 100. GPU.
The memory bandwidth of the
2:45:31
Blackwell chip is double that of
the h 100, which can have a
2:45:34
large impact on performance or
the amount of increase is not
2:45:37
unexpected for new generation of
hardware and isn't better than
2:45:40
what Nvidia competitors are
offering. Maybe the person that
2:45:43
video was excited about the NVL
72 system. But even that isn't
2:45:48
particularly novel. As someone
who's been deeply ingrained and
2:45:51
optimized performance of
Scientific Computing codes for
2:45:53
some of the largest and fastest
high performance computing
2:45:55
system in the world. I can
confidently say that those of us
2:45:58
in high performance computing
who actually understand how
2:46:01
hardware impacts application
performance are pretty
2:46:04
underwhelmed by the utility of
the latest in video products.
2:46:09
What Yeah. Not to mention, I'm
intrigued not to mention the
2:46:15
fact that the cost of Nvidia
hardware is so high that the
2:46:19
performance per dollar of Nvidia
for scientific computing is not
2:46:23
good. Many people still purchase
new Nvidia hardware for
2:46:27
scientific computing with us
because they have already ported
2:46:30
their models to CU da queued up
and don't want to invest the
2:46:34
resources porting the other
software to other alternatives.
2:46:37
So according to our our boots on
the ground here, not that
2:46:40
impressive.
2:46:43
John C Dvorak: Well, just based
on the tone of that note, I have
2:46:47
to probably assume I will assume
that he knows what he's talking
2:46:50
about
2:46:51
Adam Curry: short and video.
2:46:54
John C Dvorak: Well, not that
not advice, not advice. Don't do
2:46:58
it.
2:46:59
Adam Curry: And then finally,
for you, we all know the vortex
2:47:02
law of what is your law about
the economy and economic
2:47:09
John C Dvorak: downturns? Yes.
2:47:10
Adam Curry: Can you explain it
again? Yes,
2:47:11
John C Dvorak: every when the
economy starts to fail, the
2:47:14
hookers get better looking and
are cheaper.
2:47:20
Adam Curry: So this article from
me see hairdresser in New York.
2:47:32
She says we've all heard that
she says strippers are the first
2:47:36
people to know when the economy
is getting bad. She doesn't
2:47:39
really complete the model. But
she says as a hairstylist, I
2:47:42
have my own theories. There's a
new economic theory from hair.
2:47:45
Okay, when girls start going
natural or getting more low
2:47:49
lights getting smudge roots
that's how we know it's not just
2:47:54
because they don't have enough
money for maintenance but they
2:47:56
also don't have enough time to
come to the salon and get their
2:47:59
highlights touched up every four
weeks because they're working or
2:48:03
they're stressed or busy and she
says game on economy is down
2:48:08
because of the hair theory
though she
2:48:11
John C Dvorak: says the
economy's down
2:48:12
Adam Curry: is going down yes
2:48:14
John C Dvorak: is going down but
oh wait that sounds to me as
2:48:16
though she's saying the women
are busy and don't have time to
2:48:20
do all this work on their hair
so that's the economy should be
2:48:23
going up no
2:48:25
Adam Curry: they're working
three jobs that's what they're
2:48:27
working on this on the street
corner that's probably what's
2:48:29
happening
2:48:32
John C Dvorak: she needs to
bring this she needs to flesh
2:48:35
this out as it were.
2:48:36
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll see if I
can give you an update soon.
2:48:39
Unknown: I'm going to show my
school by donate to no agenda
2:48:42
Imagine all the people who could
do that oh yeah, that'd be fun
2:48:53
Adam Curry: value for value
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above we will read your notes.
2:48:59
No, we won't read your note
unless it's super interesting.
2:49:01
We might read it but definitely
name and location and we've got
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we got some fun a night a dame
and some birthdays and of course
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meetups on the way John take us
through to the 50s Yes,
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John C Dvorak: sir chaotic mash
and Plano Texas starts us off
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with $167.70 and he needs a deed
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exactly
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John C Dvorak: how we came to
sir and didn't get D douche by
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now is beyond me. Count a hugger
or kittens. They're in Zaandam,
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and who's 93 You got it. So if
you can put that at the end,
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yes, of course. That's tar
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seven teens. Jimsy. Zook got in
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105 35. Sir, hold my bear in
Austin, Texas. You know him in
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his 100 bucks. Allina A Varvara
a Volvo very above our I don't
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know, every in light inch lights
and dumb life and dumb it means
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the light light colored Damn,
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Adam Curry: it's the damn near
light in.
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John C Dvorak: Holland 9364
Kevin McLaughlin areas finally,
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Concord New Hampshire is
Archduke of Luna 808 Boobs.
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in Mechanicsville, Virginia, we
had a lot of people in
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Mechanicsville, Virginia 75 Sir
Darius unity in Essex, Maryland
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5856. Kindly plug for the
awesome book of wartime
2:51:00
snapshots.
2:51:02
Adam Curry: Oh, well, I talked
the other day, I want to say is
2:51:09
he's one of our producers who
was in in Operation Iraqi
2:51:14
Freedom. And he published the
book Darius Dickerson, and it's
2:51:19
called war time snapshots. And
it's basically his personal
2:51:22
photo diary of his his tours in
Iraq. And it's a it's very, very
2:51:29
cool to see.
2:51:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's good.
Yeah,
2:51:32
Adam Curry: it's good. It's
definitely worth the read by go
2:51:35
by
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John C Dvorak: John's Bill
Johnson and Grovetown ga 5693.
2:51:42
He's trying to get his daughter
in the University of Georgia. We
2:51:46
can't help him. I don't think I
don't have a context. Now.
2:51:50
Question for Dexter for the 678
Yeah, you need somebody in
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Georgia.
2:51:54
Adam Curry: Well, we might have
a producer out there.
2:51:56
John C Dvorak: Maybe Maybe
somebody in dibs some Georgia,
2:51:59
Georgia and can help. Billy Ray
Johnson, Oregon to UGA didn't do
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his daughter. Behind him. is
also a birthday shout out for
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his dad who is on the list.
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recalcitrant crazy Steve the
second Santa Rosa 5150. Oh, he
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is the our meetup guy. He does a
lot of meetups. He's going to do
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a shout out to this normal
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next Saturday and he'll be at
the club Mallard next month.
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I'll be there. Eric Frederick's
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Adam Curry: is this right we
have really only one birthday.
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That doesn't somehow that
doesn't seem right to me. That
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can't be right. No we have
Lauren July 14 Bill Johnson
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wishes dead Billy Ray Johnson
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Happy birthday from everybody
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John C Dvorak: we got to get
give deaf cancer karma to
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account hugger kiddies?
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Adam Curry: Yes. Okay. I'm
having a serious machine issues
2:56:15
here. So figure that out. Hold
on a second. I'll do that here.
2:56:23
Unknown: You've got karma.
2:56:25
Adam Curry: I can't even explain
how bad it is. Okay, but you
2:56:31
believe me Believe me. Okay,
where are we at now? We have a
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layaway Dame that I'd like to
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Emily celebrating on July 14 to
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Shortly after the first Rogan
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John C Dvorak: it was on the
notes
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Adam Curry: now I know I guess
it just lay lay awake at night
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slay Wayne night. Okay, got
that? Where's the dame then?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, layaway
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Adam Curry: but we had a did we
have a Daming? I guess not.
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Unknown: I don't recall one. No,
no. Okay.
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Adam Curry: Sorry for the mess.
That's what that's what I do.
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Swish There we go. Give me your
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Unknown: yes,
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Adam Curry: no agenda meetups a
must for anybody who wants to
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hang out with some no agenda
people and quite honestly, you
2:59:20
should. I mean, if you're in the
troll room and we had over 4000
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At some point in the troll room
today, you might want to go to a
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meet up I think you'll enjoy
just as much if not even more
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because connection is
protection. And we heard that at
2:59:32
the 711 Denver meetup.
2:59:36
Unknown: Hey folks here at the
711 na meetup out in the park.
2:59:41
Got a few new folks got a few
old folks gonna pass the
2:59:44
phone around to call me Oh, Ryan
from
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the west side of Denver in the
morning Josh assumption coming
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in from Aurora Colorado, always
in cash never in writing second
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down Slurpees and playing
soccer.
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This is Corey from Denver in the
morning, Colorado Carebear
3:00:00
Calling out let me go back and
where are you? Denver meetup
3:00:04
out
3:00:11
Adam Curry: all right. Stop
abusing the kids please. Denver
3:00:16
stop abusing the kids. Here's
McKinney Texas.
3:00:20
Unknown: This is sarcastic mass
I'm not man overboard in the
3:00:23
morning
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doing a man in the morning
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this is damn Mary with the dome
stead and I got to work
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on the dome said resist me much
more
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dying to see thank you for your
courage
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thank you for your courage and
making amazing questions.
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Jamie and a smokin hot wife
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John C Dvorak: don't get a
bigger bucket and I
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Adam Curry: don't care how much
you produce it it was over
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modulated you can't you can't
cover it up with some music in
3:01:11
the background but we
appreciated Kernersville last
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report
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Unknown: John and Adam This is
Sir William of West Pennsyltucky
3:01:18
at the Kernersville meetup thank
you for your excellent media
3:01:22
deconstruction of the Joe Biden
elder abuse trains good plains
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man
3:01:27
this mark from Mocksville my
first meet up I'm pleased to
3:01:29
have met remembers that a royal
family in one afternoon. Yeah,
3:01:34
making our own bill you in
3:01:36
the morning John and Adam
produce records we will meet up
3:01:39
we were swimming in horse paste
3:01:40
sir Jason No the Piedmont and I
just got the horse paste
3:01:46
Adam Curry: thank you all very
much for your reports. We do
3:01:48
love them coming up meetup wise
on the calendar today the rabbit
3:01:51
hash Kentucky meetup one o'clock
it's underway at in this rabid
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hash Kentucky you should already
be there. You should be
3:01:58
listening live. I hope the no
agenda southwest New Hampshire
3:02:02
meetup just kicked off in New
Hampshire in Keene at the Keene
3:02:05
New Hampshire local burger. On
Tuesday. I don't know a lot of
3:02:09
meetups on Tuesday, Colorado
Springs meets at 530 and coati
3:02:13
or CO T in Colorado Springs
servido. Hosting that for you
3:02:17
and the next show day Thursday.
Charlotte's Thirsty Thursday
3:02:20
seven o'clock at edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina.
3:02:24
Coming up Chicago, Illinois in
the 20th New Jersey Mount Laurel
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on the 20th Lansing Michigan
Cincinnati, Ohio Santa Rosa,
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California, San Diego,
California. Palm Beach Gardens
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Florida on the 21st Savoy,
Illinois on the 25th Eldoret
3:02:37
Alpharetta, Georgia. It goes on
and on and on. I'm looking
3:02:41
forward to meet up reports from
Amsterdam and from the Trinidad
3:02:43
and Tobago meetup. That's on
July 28. No agenda meetups they
3:02:48
are something they are at
something to be experienced. Try
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it once. If it doesn't work out
for you let me know no one ever
3:02:55
has go to no agenda meetups.com
If you can't find one near you
3:02:58
start one yourself. It's easy.
3:03:02
Unknown: Go hang out with all
the Tyson days. You'd have
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to say
3:03:18
is like a body.
3:03:21
Adam Curry: We always like to
choose our ISO material. Or the
3:03:24
last little clip that we play at
the end of every single show and
3:03:27
I have I only have two today. Do
did you come up with any at all?
3:03:31
I
3:03:31
John C Dvorak: defer to your
two.
3:03:33
Unknown: Oh man.
3:03:35
John C Dvorak: I'm worried about
should be good. Well, I'm
3:03:38
Adam Curry: afraid and I'm let's
see what we got.
3:03:40
Unknown: I really want to tuck
into that beef Qi. No,
3:03:43
Adam Curry: see, that's no good.
Wow, it's poor showing today.
3:03:50
Unknown: Holy crap. What was he
thinking?
3:03:52
Adam Curry: That's all okay, I'm
3:03:53
John C Dvorak: a winner.
3:03:54
Unknown: Thank goodness. But
don't you worry. It's
3:03:58
time for Tip of the Day with
curry. Oops, I
3:04:01
Adam Curry: got no tip. It's
John's Tip of the day, John. I
3:04:04
hope that you had time to bring
us a tip of the day everybody
3:04:07
loves them. Do
3:04:09
John C Dvorak: you have a tip of
the day good. If people want to
3:04:11
collect some art for the wall,
don't buy a poster or anything.
3:04:14
Go to Ben garrison.com The
cartoonist Ben garrison. He's a
3:04:19
cartoonist and he sells very
they're actually pretty big
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prints of any cartoon you want
that he does and they're well
3:04:29
produced. These are good looking
prints. Believe me I bought two
3:04:33
of them. And he'll sign them and
you can have them put something
3:04:37
on there like I had him sign one
of them for the best podcast in
3:04:43
the universe signed Ben
garrison. Really and
3:04:47
Adam Curry: that's gonna be
worth money someday. What does
3:04:48
it cost? What are his prices?
Well,
3:04:51
John C Dvorak: he added the
prices vary but he you can get
3:04:53
most of them for 44 bucks.
3:04:56
Adam Curry: Wow, what's the
size?
3:04:58
John C Dvorak: It's a seven by
seven seems like that is not a
3:05:01
it's not small like they're
fairly decent size decent size I
3:05:05
don't have the exact
measurements that my original
3:05:08
art but the original ours too
expensive just buy one of these
3:05:10
prints he'll sign it but
something on there hello bill or
3:05:14
whatever you want and then make
sure to mention the agenda show
3:05:17
Adam Curry: if your name was
Frank get one with Hello bill as
3:05:20
beauty can do that.
3:05:22
John C Dvorak: But if make sure
you mentioned that you heard it
3:05:24
on no agenda show because I
think he should be listening to
3:05:27
the show even though I bought
prints from him. I'm absolutely
3:05:30
sure he doesn't listen. And he
but he should
3:05:33
Adam Curry: and, and 10% off if
you use code Bong, Gino, there's
3:05:38
John C Dvorak: no temperature
has been used
3:05:40
Unknown: to do the day. Thanks
for listening. Y'all come back
3:05:44
Adam Curry: now you're here you
go. Come back. Now you're here.
3:05:47
We would like to have you come
back on Thursday. I'll have my
3:05:51
gear sorted out for sure. I got
some work to do. And you are in
3:05:58
luck. If you're listening live
right now because we have bowl
3:06:00
after bowl coming up. Sir
Spencer and Dame DeLorean.
3:06:06
Always a pleasure. And end of
show mixes David kicked checks
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in tie Robinson, Professor J.
Jones and Tom Starkweather. Yes,
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the melodious owl himself brings
it to you. Keep calm everybody,
3:06:22
no agenda on it's all going to
be okay. We will have a lot more
3:06:26
to deconstruct for you on
Thursday as more information
3:06:29
becomes available. Remember,
boots on the ground clips,
3:06:32
anything you find. Never
hesitate to send it to us.
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That's why you're producers of
the no agenda Show. Coming to
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you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country right here in
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Fredericksburg, Texas FEMA
Region number six in the
3:06:45
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
3:06:47
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain
3:06:49
I'm John C. Dvorak.
3:06:51
Adam Curry: We will be back on
Thursday right here. same bat
3:06:54
time, same bat space. Remember
us had no agenda donations.com
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Until then adios mofos or Hui
Hui, and such
3:07:10
Unknown: assets to make sure
that those were cleared for
3:07:13
investigators to move safely in
areas are still working on it's
3:07:18
still an active crime scene. I'm
not gonna say that the
3:07:21
scene is 100% Clear to super
savers wasn't available for the
3:07:28
press conference in.
3:07:37
More detail.
3:07:47
Tonight, breaking news over
president and presumptive
3:07:50
Republican presidential nominee
Donald Trump rushed off the
3:07:53
stage after being shot at a
campaign rally in what is now
3:07:58
being called an assassination
attempt both being the 45th
3:08:01
president and posting on his
drugs, truth social life on this
3:08:05
evening. bullet grazed his right
arrow.
3:08:16
Super Sarris wasn't available,
3:08:18
rather chaotic at that point,
half the people were looking in
3:08:21
because if
3:08:22
anyone's got to
3:08:27
understand the diversity of this
community as unique as the
3:08:33
breakfast tacos here in San
Antonio, is your string. Who is
3:08:39
your favorite
3:08:40
fearless hero? Well, your unique
Ted Easterbrook from a taco,
3:08:44
you'd have to go to the doctor
and think she was rude to when
3:08:48
he sold in the right mind would
reduce you to your immutable
3:08:52
characteristics and see you as
their statistics are normal and
3:08:56
class would never be crossed and
they would never treat you like
3:09:00
we've been usually a frenzy or
ghosts in the dark your brains
3:09:03
put into a tizzy as you start to
see something started through
3:09:05
the cognitive dissidence. At
least we know we can rely on our
3:09:09
favorite fear lists here we can
rely on Old Joe to never say
3:09:14
something racist.
3:09:16
was a bad dude and he ran a
bunch of bad boys if you have a
3:09:20
problem figuring out where do
your premier from and you ain't
3:09:24
black.
3:09:26
Mr. Shot you can chuck
3:09:27
it sounded like there was six
seven shots to start with coming
3:09:30
from behind the bleachers saw
the man tilting the head and I
3:09:33
thought he heard another couple
rounds I don't like it was
3:09:36
behind me but I belong up
3:09:37
nobody's ever walked off that
corner like very
3:09:40
confusing initially. It's like
we Kennedy couldn't quite tell
3:09:43
where I was gonna miss
3:09:44
a shot you can chuck what
3:09:46
was going through your mind as
you heard gunfire Get
3:09:49
down get down. All you
3:09:51
got to do is make 10 points and
3:09:52
then we heard a different
caliber gun. Very confusing
3:09:55
initially I thought it was a
firecracker.
3:09:56
Now if we go
3:09:58
through magnetometers your bags
so Search. I'm not
3:10:00
shocked that this happened. And
then we heard a different
3:10:02
caliber gun
3:10:04
shop shop took a gunshot wound
to the head. Everyone
3:10:07
seems very angry.
3:10:08
So do magnetometers your bags
are searched what was going
3:10:12
through your mind as you heard
gunfire Get
3:10:14
down, get down.
3:10:16
I'm not shocked that this
happened. Nobody's ever walked
3:10:18
up that corner line.
3:10:21
What I said was I beg your
pardon? What can we do for you?
3:10:28
Nice, David. What are we doing?
Look, I wouldn't have picked
3:10:32
Vice President Trump to be vice
president. I thought that would
3:10:35
happen. I mean, I my numbers are
better Israel than both China,
3:10:41
South Korea and North Korea,
Russia. My state and Delaware,
3:10:47
from Wisconsin to North Carolina
anyway, in Russia. And in China.
3:10:54
By the way, how accurate Does
anybody think the polls are
3:10:58
these days, and by the way, is
ready to talk. I'm not ready to
3:11:03
talk to Putin. I'm prepared to
talk to any leader who wants to
3:11:06
talk, including Putin call me.
I'm determined on running. But I
3:11:13
think it's important that I
realize my fears. I see him see
3:11:18
me out there. Let me she's my
head. I beg your pardon. What do
3:11:26
you hear from mainstream
economists? Are you safer? Is
3:11:30
your family safer? So if I slow
down I can't get the job done.
3:11:35
That's a sign that I shouldn't
be doing. Or put there's no
3:11:39
indication No. Anything beg your
pardon?
3:11:53
vorak.org/in
3:11:56
A
3:11:57
holy crap. What was he thinking?