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July 18th, 2024 • 3h 15m

1678: Stolen Cookies

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John C Dvorak: There's gonna be a lot of pink guy. Let's put it
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that way. Adam curry,
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Unknown: John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Award winning nation media assassination episode
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1678. This
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Unknown: is no agenda
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Adam Curry: and broadcasting live from the heart of the
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country here and fever. Reason number six in the morning,
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everybody. Madame Curie
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John C Dvorak: came from Northern Silicon Valley where
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terreno Fuji is back, undefeated. I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Nailed it. Only only you could give us some sumo
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headlines at the start of a show on a day like this. Only you
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John C Dvorak: could have said JD Vance. Oh and birded one Oh,
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no, no
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Adam Curry: wait, breaking breaking.
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Unknown: I feel standby we're gonna get back to you soon. But
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there's some breaking news emerging right now. CNS Kayla?
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Toshi. She's on the scene for us. Kayla, the president United
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States was about to speak but something has gone on. He's just
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got new information. Tell us about that. Well,
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President Biden has just tested positive for COVID that
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according to the president of Unito, as the leader viewer, oh,
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no,
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Adam Curry: he tested positive for COVID. And it gets worse now
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that,
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Unknown: you know, the President has received probably at least
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five doses of vaccine as a lot of us and has also had the right
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for it. And that has really, you know, all those elements are
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served to increase his immunity. Plus, he you know, we also have
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packs loaded now. And we've already heard that he's just the
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brand. Dr.
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Reiner, we're seeing live pictures of the president
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boarding Air Force One right now. And what jumped out at me
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and I'm sure to others as well. I didn't see him wearing a mask,
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as it was. Those other people have
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Adam Curry: no mask. Oh, no. Breaking breaking. But remember
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everybody it's safe and effective. President
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Unknown: Joe Biden slowly making his way off Air Force One in
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Delaware Wednesday night. This is one of the first images of
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the president we've seen since confirmation came in to be
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tested positive for COVID 19.
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So I think Biden being second is a big deal, but I don't think
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he's going to suffer any real consequence. Because it is a
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manageable disease. Even in the older population.
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That's Stanford's Dr. Yvonne Maldonado. Right rest is key for
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someone. For COVID, the President's press secretary says
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Biden will self isolate in the days to come. He did eventually
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put a mask on after getting into his waiting SUV. Biden's medical
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team says he has been vaccinated and has all of his current
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annual booster dose. Maldonado says that is important. That
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Adam Curry: is important. He's had all his booster shots. He's
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wearing a mask, you still got COVID It's unbelievable how safe
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and effective it really is.
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John C Dvorak: Glad I didn't make the clip of it. But Gutfeld
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had kind of, I don't know, probably a sketchy joke where he
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said, when he announced it on his show, he says, Well, there's
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another shot that didn't work.
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Adam Curry: And I and I think this came right after he
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announced that he would only only only only really give up if
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he had some kind of medical emergency.
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John C Dvorak: Yes. And there's one report that I have from NPR.
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The Biden has COVID clip. And there's a little factoid at the
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end of this, which they've left out of all these other reports
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President
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Unknown: Biden campaigning in Nevada left early today. That's
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after confirmation from the President's doctor. The 81 year
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old president has tested positive for COVID. By most of
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delivered remarks to Latino organization conference,
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President instead left early to self isolated his home in
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Rehoboth Delaware finds doctor says the president symptoms are
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mild,
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mild, mild.
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Adam Curry: Yes, no problem. But I think this is the clip where
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they they're trying to get rid of him. And then I think this is
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it. I'm not sure if he says they only five some medical problems,
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Unknown: the pressure from Democratic leaders, for Biden to
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get out of the race is intensifying. In fact, one
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person who has been out there publicly defending Biden told me
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just a short while ago, Biden is going to see the whole house of
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cards come down soon. As for that meeting with Delaware, I am
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told that this was a one on one meeting just the Senate leader
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and the President and the Chuck Schumer forcefully made the case
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for the better for Biden better for the Democratic Party and
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better for the country if he were to bow out of the race. And
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David, when I went to to Schumer's office to ask them
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about to tell them I was to report this and tell you this
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tonight, absolutely no denial from Senator Schumer's office.
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They only said this leader Schumer conveyed the views of
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his caucus. In other words, the views of democratic senators, I
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am also told that Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic Leader
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of the House, has expressed similar views directly to the
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president at Joe.
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Adam Curry: And I mean, showing my caucus. Let me show you this.
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Maybe, maybe, maybe maybe we can spin this ladies and gentlemen,
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maybe we can spin this in a positive direction Joy read help
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us.
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Unknown: These two men are both elderly. Donald Trump is an
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elderly man who, for whatever reason was given nine seconds to
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take a iconic photo op during an active shooter situation. weird
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situation. We'll figure that out one day. But his survival of
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that and bouncing right back and going right to his convention is
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being conveyed in the media world as a sign of strength.
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This current President of the United States is 81 years old,
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and has COVID. Should he be fine in a couple of days? Doesn't
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that convey exactly the same thing? That he's strong enough
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older than Trump to have gotten something that used to really be
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valuable to people his age? So if he does fine out of it and
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comes back and is able to do rallies? Isn't that exactly the
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same? It's not exactly the same. It's not same incident but it's
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all it's an elderly man coming through out of an age should
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take
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Adam Curry: her off the air. What an nincompoop. It's exactly
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the same yummy shots exactly
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John C Dvorak: the same, exactly the same word
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Adam Curry: on the street. I have from from reliable sources.
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Biden will step down tonight. Tonight Tonight, this is what
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I'm hearing. And it kind of goes along with this news and I
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believe this is the the Biden won't quit until he cyclic
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Unknown: the Democratic National Committee announces its shelving
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and effort to make Biden's nomination official by the end
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of July through a virtual roll call vote. The DNC rules
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committee now announcing no virtual voting will begin before
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August one. The move perhaps intended to buy more time to
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convince Biden to drop out of the race sources telling ABC
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News it came at the urging of the two most powerful Democrats
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in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and house
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minority leader Hakeem Jeffries so far Biden resisting all
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entreaties to drop out of the race, but he has had words of
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praise for his vice president Kamala Harris by the way
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she's our great Vice President she can be president united
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states
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in an interview with b e. T. Biden did say a doctor's
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recommendation could sway him as
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a medical condition and emerged if somebody if the doctors came
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to me said you got this problem that problem? Yeah,
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Adam Curry: there's you're out.
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Unknown: I don't know. I
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John C Dvorak: think I don't think he wants it out.
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Adam Curry: No, but did you see him going into and getting out
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of the plane? That is not
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John C Dvorak: good. barely get up the stairs and it was the
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short bed little boys. wasn't a big deal. roll that out for him
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any more than the stairway?
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Adam Curry: No. Now I'm just telling you I heard from
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reasonably good inside sources.
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John C Dvorak: microdot guys,
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Adam Curry: no, close, though. Here in the hill country? Yes.
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The word is you stepping down? It comes. This comes from Trump
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associates. So who knows? Well,
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John C Dvorak: tonight would be timed because Trump gives his
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speech tonight. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: So they could ruin the coverage.
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John C Dvorak: That's why it would make logical sense to do
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it if you're going to do it at all. But I don't believe that. I
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don't think it's going to happen. And they keep bringing
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up this August 1 thing, one of the early tweets that was taken
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down to after the Trump shooting was it. Don't worry at Trump's
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going to be dead by August 1. I think that was one of my one of
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the newsletters I sent out. We still had
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Adam Curry: that tweet on it. So we have to wait until August 1.
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Is that is that the idea? Well,
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John C Dvorak: I think that if they're planning to try to kill
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him again. Man. I'd say that August 1 is one of the days that
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has been set up. So why would you throw in the towel today
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doesn't make sense. Well,
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Adam Curry: I mean, clearly he didn't have to didn't have to
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say Oh, I got COVID I'm going home and that was not necessary.
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His symptoms are mild isn't you know it wasn't wearing a mask.
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It's a hoax. It's a reason to maybe just doesn't like Latinos.
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He doesn't
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John C Dvorak: like Latinos because they're turning on him a
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pooped. He himself talked about the schedule he's been on.
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Adam Curry: I want to run through a couple of bad takes
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bad assassination takes that, that cropped up in the media and
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hope and some of it was was thwarted or combated by by the
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blue team. We started with by the blue team that the depth of
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the CNN basically CNN. Here's the X. Axelrod does this or on
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CNN, this is Obama's guy. You know, the reality is that there
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are things you can't erase. I mean, we all remember January 6,
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we remember the President's rhetoric then. Just a few weeks
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ago, he retweeted a tweet, which was Cheney was accused of
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treason, and it said read truth if you want televise military
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tribunals, and he did. So I think the speaker should talk to
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the President as well, because he has, he has done his share to
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put us where we are now he brought it upon himself. But
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there's David urban to say, Oh, David. Yeah, I
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Unknown: was just gonna say, look, there's actually you and I
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will disagree on this. There's no excuse. That's like blaming
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the victim a little bit here, right? Like, so somebody gets
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assaulted, you blame the victim, oh, he shouldn't have been
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wearing that that outfit or that man deserved to be being hit by
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a car or whatever. And he's not saying that. Indirectly is but
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you know, you got to condemn them. Actually gonna condemn it
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outright, right. There's no justification of it. I've
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condemned
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it from the very beginning for that, for that, but you
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also can't say January 6, is the reason the President almost got
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killed yesterday. Did
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I say that? You kind of said the speaker said we have to lower
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our voice. And I'm suggesting that he should speak to his own
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cat. And I
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agree, and we should speak to lots of Democrats, lots of
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Republicans, the president united states at some rhetoric
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heated rhetoric.
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Adam Curry: Well, let's start let's do this. Let's start by
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not putting words in my mouth. Okay. Well, I'm not
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Unknown: saying sec. I just want to say January 6, did not cause
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what happened. I
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Adam Curry: don't think nobody said I don't think it was saying
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that. He did exactly what he's wire. A lot of people getting
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fired from the jobs for saying, Oh, he missed it. No bad shots.
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But my favorite was of course what happened in Australia. A
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Unknown: joke about a missed shot from an attempted assassins
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rifle has brought musical duo Tenacious D in the crosshairs, I
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mean calls for their deportation from Australia. The controversy
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brought down the curtain on the rest of the tour across
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Australia and New Zealand. And it could mean no more wrong
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cause for the comedic raucous from
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tenacious days, Carl gasps This is not the greatest quote in the
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world.
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You will miss Trump next.
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thing no tributes to his band bait. The other half of the
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comedic rock duo Jeff flag posted. I was blindsided by what
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was said at the show on Sunday, and I would never condone hate
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speech or encourage political violence with that the rest of
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the Dewar's spicy meatball to was canceled and all creative
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plans put on us
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Adam Curry: Oh, that was one of my top three the top the top or
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the topper? What had to be Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway on
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the on the pivot podcast?
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John C Dvorak: me on this one. I'm sure this is gonna be a news
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to me Get a
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Adam Curry: load of this one.
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Unknown: Social media is flooded with misinformation, conspiracy
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theories, especially x of course. And Elon Musk keeps
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touting it. He's real media. Now. He's 80s piece of him
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anyway, Elon Musk and some other tech business leaders, using
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your megaphone to criticize the Secret Service diversity
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initiatives and making unsubstantiated claims about the
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shooting just like they did with that guy who got killed in San
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Francisco Wrong. Wrong. He's not an Tifa. He also formally
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endorsed Trump after the shooting as to Bill Ackman
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because they couldn't have the spotlight away from them. People
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on both sides of the political spectrum are sharing theories.
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The false flag claiming the picture was staged. Yeah,
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certainly was fast on his feet.
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So there's ridiculous theories on both sides. The worst on the
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right, but I don't know if you heard that. Right before
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Mallanna gave her public statement. She was heard yelling
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into a phone You had one job too soon.
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I like a joke. I like my favorite joke was from someone
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where they said it's let's let's hope it's not a time traveler
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from the future. Who can't shoot it was something like that
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anyway. Oh, no.
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The truth is, I mean, the probably the most likely
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conspiracy theory is the Democratic Party order to hit
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but they use TV for it. They use Timo and Oh,
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all right, well, stop with the jokes.
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Adam Curry: It's just like, they hate so much that they still
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have to make jokes. And they and they didn't they didn't deliver
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it. No, that didn't deliver a single one of them. What I what
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I really played this clip for is Kara Swisher says no, there's
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lots of conspiracy theories. Like was an inside job. I gotta
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say he did get up pretty quick. That picture was pretty iconic.
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And I just need to stop and say something about this. Because
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there is a large contingent quite large, who all believe
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this was staged. It was meant to to get that iconic photo of
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Trump and the flag and his fist pumping in the air. It was too
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perfect. Everything was too well orchestrated. Please don't pay
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attention to the dead guy as irrelevant. But I would just
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like to remind people that if the current of our consulting
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group had advise on such a strategy, we would do it in
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October. Not in July. That just discredits that whole theory.
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It's, it's idiotic, wouldn't you say?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. I have a couple
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of clips that kind of refer to this. One is first I got a bunch
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decision about the nature of the shooting. Vaughn Gino came up in
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here he who is an ex, Secret Service guy, so and so he has a
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lot of contacts. And he was bitching about it. I guess
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you're going to ingest another investigation by this time by
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the House speaker. So they have about six or seven of these
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things going on at the same time. They're definitely going
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to get rid of this woman. I don't know how they're going to
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manage it. But you're gonna have to give her a golden parachute
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or something.
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Adam Curry: Oh, you mean, the Secret Service? Lady Cheadle?
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Yeah, I mean, you had some stuff in the newsletter about her,
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which I did not know that Jill Biden actually was
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John C Dvorak: parsing real Biden harder. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: really? How do we know this? Well, there's
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John C Dvorak: an article in The New York Post. There's an
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article in the Daily Mail. There's an article in Politico,
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there's an article in The Hill, I think there's plenty of
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articles that indicate that Joe Biden did this. So that's how we
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know it. All right. But since you're on the topic of being a
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people being abhorrent, which I thought was funny to hearing
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that coming from x, yeah. Right on Monday with you know, they
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canceled the mica and the morning, Joe Show. Morning, Joe
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guy kicked off the air because they were and then the next day,
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of course, more I don't have the clip, by the way.
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Adam Curry: I think we're responsible, because you called
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out the CEO of Comcast. You said is that guy's fault? And I think
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he heard it anyway. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: yeah. I doubt if he heard it, but he should have
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been saying, oh, meanwhile, they let Nicole Wallace do her show.
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Yeah. And you and she's worse than those two. And so I have
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some Nicole Wallace's material that I got three clips here.
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They're fairly short. So for the first one, but here's what
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happens. This is the day at you know, this is the first Monday
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when they she comes back on the air. She wasn't bumped. And here
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we go. So
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Unknown: Claire and David is 439 in the east and we've memory
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hold Mike Pence the whole reason Donald Trump needs a new VP is
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because he called Mike Pence the P word because he wouldn't be
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the final nail in his coffin and then left him to die, of course
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wanted to quote hang Mike Pence. And
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by the way, JD Vance has said he would not have certified those
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electors. Can I show
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you what what Jamie Masse was actually confronted by foxes,
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Brett bear, about all the things JD Vance said about Donald
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Trump. Let me tell you that.
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Well, you know, Senator, this is an evolution and I know you've
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been asked about this before about past comments that you've
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made about Donald Trump. You've said I've never I'm a Never
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Trump guy. Never liked him. Terrible candidate. Idiot if you
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voted for him might be America's Hitler. Might be a cynical
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aihole cultural heroine noxious, reprehensible about
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Donald Trump. I
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didn't think he was gonna be good president Brett. He
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was a great presidents.
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I don't know if the flip flop does make you throw up in your
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mouth the you know, sick a fan he's turned into might. Yeah, I
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think flip flopping is baked in in the Trump era for
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Republicans. Sadly, as I mentioned, that's why they do
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the unqualified tag is important. But I think at the at
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the base of what you just raised about the reason JD Vance is now
19:15
needed is because Donald Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence
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has been disenfranchised by Republicans but most of Donald
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Trump's cabinet won't support the former president either
19:25
either. For a fundamental reason, because Donald Trump did
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try to topple democracy with violence and Mike Pence refused
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to do it. And this is important to the context of what we saw in
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Butler. We don't know the shooters motivations. Let's just
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let's say it was political violence politically motivated.
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That shooter almost interrupted democracy to violence through a
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bullet. On January 6, Donald Trump led an insurrection to
19:53
interrupt democracy.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, this is this is the big it's a false
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equivalency. What are you doing?
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John C Dvorak: The I like this is that guy jolly a Republican
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Congressman Of course. Nicole Wallace is an ex Republican. She
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was, I think, a spokes holder for Bush. Yeah. And she now says
20:13
that she was like a self loathing Republican she was
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feeling bad about.
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Adam Curry: I always I always hated being Republican, but I'm
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not a flip flopper. And speaking about puking in your mouth,
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John C Dvorak: Nicole was a good point. I'm not a flip flopper.
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That's nasty.
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Adam Curry: That's nasty. But
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John C Dvorak: she's, she's really a pathetic example of
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Well, here's a listen to this clip to
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Unknown: Unfortunately, nobody was killed, but the crowd was
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chanting hang Mike Pence and Donald Trump watched as that
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occurred. It is why
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a tweet calling him not the P word. But we know from Ivanka
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Trump's assistant that that's what he was saying in private.
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And as I've said that what?
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John C Dvorak: He sent out a tweet, what is not calling him
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to pee word. But what was the tweet? He is always sending out
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tweets. So she said, so she implies the by the way she
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presents this, that he sent out a tweet, but he didn't like Mike
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Pence a prick. or pushy or pushy.
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Adam Curry: We don't know. We don't know because but it's the
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P word. It's a P Well, you can't say the P word. Unless you're
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wearing a pink hat.
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John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: So but just think of this. He
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John C Dvorak: sent out a tweet. Not calling him with the tweets
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that what? What is she talking about? They're very
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Adam Curry: confused at this moment. They're confused. They
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don't know what to do. They're there. No one's no one's giving
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up. There's no call from Jill. She's trying to you know, keep
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Joe afloat that their deal isn't done yet. You know, she's
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managing Schumer. The house, I get this guy. I gotta make it
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happen. Hunters. You know, he's in the corner. She's just, it's
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it's a problem. They got problems as problems in paradise
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here. So nobody knows what to do. Well,
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John C Dvorak: here we go to the last short clip
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Unknown: of Trump where the guy and the first girlfriend that
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was dating him was Mike Pence. And you say well, you know, I
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It's not you. It's him. I mean, he left you to actually die.
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They were chanting hang Mike Pence. And he said, Yeah, go for
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it. Basically.
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Adam Curry: It's really unbelievable. We sit right Wait,
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she
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John C Dvorak: says she claims that Trump said there are
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chanting hanging Mike Pence. I don't remember this. I watched
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the whole thing too. If he was watching what I was watching,
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which was on C span, there wasn't much going on. And so
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they're chanting according to her hang Mike Pence, which could
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have been just the FBI chanting it. And then Trump said Go for
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it. When was this? Do you remember this? No. And what
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Adam Curry: they had He also claimed they built a gallows if
22:55
there was a small there was no gallows. There was a guillotine
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like a model guillotine that was outside. You know, someone
23:03
brought it in our trailer. Yeah, this is a great surprise,
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surprise. The media sucks. Just surprise. The media is doing no
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good. No
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John C Dvorak: deny that but they're there. i This is where I
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want to play this clip. This is the one I just sent in. Oh, this
23:24
is Brian O'Shea. And Brian O'Shea is married to Naomi Wolf,
23:31
Adam Curry: man. Well, yes. And he's a former
23:34
John C Dvorak: Intel guy. Yeah, yeah. He's a private security
23:38
company entail ex Intel ex army. Green Berets had a hell of a
23:44
background. He and She married him because she he was he was a
23:48
bodyguard. Yeah. Bodyguard says when the marrying the bodyguard,
23:52
yes. Yeah. So this guy regular Whitney Houston. So she wrote a
23:59
a substack claiming that Jill Biden is behind the whole
24:05
Adam Curry: No, it was really it was really cagey. She's like I
24:08
don't want I I'm writing to get sued. But it looks like Jill is
24:13
in charge here was an interesting piece.
24:16
John C Dvorak: And that piece by I would link to that in the
24:21
newsletter but I read it after the fact. And it because it was
24:24
interesting. I I tweeted it so people should follow me the real
24:28
Dvorak because I'm not on Macedon anymore. No. So he has a
24:36
couple of new he has one insight that I've never heard it and
24:41
she's claimed it she just goes on for a while. And she says
24:44
it's like breaking news and they talk about that but they talked
24:47
about some other stuff. But this is the one of the key little
24:50
elements in it. interview she did with him on her, one of her
24:54
podcasts and I will say this. She doesn't. I don't know why
24:58
this is so She's always poor. She is so poorly miked on her
25:04
own podcast. Yeah, and everybody else all the guests are Well,
25:08
Mike. Yes, she
25:09
Adam Curry: does on the laptop mic. I have no idea why someone
25:13
should shake her about to Hey,
25:15
John C Dvorak: instance. I've never heard a podcast where the
25:17
host, the host
25:19
Adam Curry: of the worst. I'm gonna get worse gear. She needs
25:22
some gear. We got to help help. No. Oh, me with a mic.
25:25
John C Dvorak: She needs a mic. Okay. Okay,
25:27
Adam Curry: I'll send her a mic. Alright. So this is Brian
25:31
O'Shea. Yeah,
25:32
Unknown: Brian, my first reaction was I, and I'm not
25:36
going to judge the Secret Service's conduct. I will say
25:41
that I've heard and I don't know, I have a lot of Secret
25:45
Service friends, or they're telling me some of those people
25:48
in that detail detail. We're kind of short. And why is that
25:53
important? They
25:54
were very a lot of them were like midgets like this. Yeah.
25:58
And the thing is, it's so I took no offense when my friend Gary
26:03
would assign me to, for instance, a former naval
26:08
commander, submarine commander, because submarine commanders are
26:12
short, I am about five foot eight. And so I could, I can
26:16
shield him. But there were a few that were Donald Trump is a tall
26:21
man. And I would just think you'd want people at least his
26:27
height. But again, I don't know. But I also noticed like, there
26:30
are a couple of people I noticed in the crowd that stood out. I
26:33
don't know who they were. There's one guy that just
26:36
they're standing. That was really weird. But I will say
26:40
this, when I got the audio of the when they did their huddle
26:46
around him the Secret Service. There's some things that the
26:51
media is censoring right now. And I think it's because Secret
26:55
Service has been pushing diversity, equity and inclusion
27:00
with the goal of having 30% Women by like, 2030 what I did
27:05
here in the audio that has been censored, they've just cut the
27:09
sound for the split second, but I caught it early. Is you hear
27:15
through Donald Trump's mic, one of the female agents saying what
27:20
are we doing? Now as a security professional, cannot a secret
27:26
service guy but I'm really good. You always know what you're
27:32
doing.
27:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, which brings me to another couple of
27:39
points that are interesting that me now the media obviously bleep
27:42
bleep that out. So I've never heard that I've heard either.
27:47
And but I have her I have
27:49
Adam Curry: what I what I did here is I heard on your on your
27:52
go. Alright, go. And then they did nothing goes that just he's
27:56
still on the floor. They're supposed to
27:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was weird. There were two other
28:01
censorship issues, though. One of them was the New York at this
28:06
was was a whole segment of the Goodfellas show and I could have
28:10
clipped it, I suppose. But I can just say it they they are
28:13
censoring the photo of Trump with his fist in the air and the
28:17
flag in the background. And they're taking the flag out
28:19
Adam Curry: by request by requests. I have. Unnamed editor
28:24
of quote, major news outlet wants the media to stop using
28:27
the iconic photo of Trump because it helps Trump.
28:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so the news media is deciding not to use a
28:35
real photo that hasn't been altered.
28:39
Adam Curry: The whole thing was set up to get that picture.
28:41
Don't you know that this whole thing is the Inside Job false
28:44
flag.
28:46
John C Dvorak: Now that you and I want the other thing that's
28:48
been taken out and I do remember seeing this, and then I don't
28:51
haven't seen it since, which is one of the incompetent Secret
28:55
Service guys had a rifle. And it's I don't think it was one of
28:58
the girls. I mean, we do know about the girl can't holster her
29:01
gun. Yeah, that's been played up on the Twitter and everyplace
29:05
else, she can't get it, she got the gun out and she couldn't put
29:08
it back. And this was She held it out and kept it in our
29:12
possession of holding it. But there's a shot of a guy whose
29:17
deeds he did these people are all confused and this guy's got
29:20
this rifle and he had any actually pointed it at Trump.
29:25
Adam Curry: You know, just on that, on that topic. What
29:30
bothered me is so many people were behind the president
29:34
roaming around photographers like zipping across to the front
29:38
and not a single, a single reaction from any of the law
29:43
enforcement or Secret Service. And maybe maybe we should just
29:48
consider that we don't actually live in in the West Wing
29:51
television series, and that in reality, the presidents are a
29:57
lot less safe than than we do.
30:00
Unknown: Er leave,
30:01
Adam Curry: you know, it's like, mate. Let me just read this for
30:03
a second. Our anonymous lobbyist checked in with me, and he's in
30:08
Milwaukee at the RNC. You remember the anonymous lobbyist?
30:12
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah.
30:12
Adam Curry: He says the amount of security and police presence
30:14
in Milwaukee for the RNC is shocking, actually very
30:17
impressive. I work for an organization who put on a party
30:20
for attendees after the convention last night on
30:22
Tuesday. there that basically says this is one week of
30:26
partying from lunchtime till the morning hours, just outside the
30:30
front of our event building are barriers to stop vehicles from
30:32
proceeding into the hard security zone. There are two
30:36
security zones around the forum soft and hard which span
30:39
multiple blocks in all directions vehicles are allowed
30:42
in the hard security zone, but must pass through a designated
30:45
checkpoint where a bomb check on the vehicle is performed. In
30:48
front of our van building was not a designated vehicle
30:51
checkpoint. At the barriers in front of our van building Secret
30:54
Service was stationed in an unmarked patrol vehicle. And the
30:57
building next to our event building was actually housing
30:59
Secret Service officers for the week of the convention. During
31:03
setup of the event, broad sunny daylight I was in the front of
31:06
the building, assisting with various tasks to prepare for the
31:08
party, a man on a moped managed to speed through the security
31:12
barrier into the heart zone unabated by the barrier, which
31:15
was designed to stop cars of course not mopeds oops. As soon
31:19
as the moped got through the barriers, a Secret Service
31:21
Officer popped out of his duty vehicle. He walks over to me and
31:25
says, Did you see the man on the moped? I said yes. With some
31:29
additional trivial comments, the Secret Service officer says,
31:32
Well, I didn't want to kill the guy, so I let him through. I
31:36
mean, in reality, you're just not as safe as everyone thinks
31:41
you are. It's just a fact of life. You know, Trump is not
31:45
necessarily safe tonight at the event. I mean, anything could be
31:49
hidden in the in the, if they want to get him they'll get him
31:53
eventually. Without intervention of some kind. So we need to stop
31:58
dreaming that we live in this fantasy of Harrison Ford, and
32:03
Secret Service and police and everybody does everything right.
32:08
It's just shoot a shot the guy in the moped, yes, right to the
32:11
noggin. I mean, seriously, that that's the reality of it. We're
32:17
living. We're all living in a fantasy world, you know,
32:20
preconditioned by movies and television. It's just not so
32:24
it's hard to do this kind of protection. It's hard.
32:29
John C Dvorak: So let's just do the damn bungee nose. Take on
32:32
some of this bungee. No. All right,
32:35
Adam Curry: everybody get ready. Remember, code bond Gino for 10%
32:39
off.
32:39
Unknown: A high level source reached out to me last night and
32:42
said to me that the rooftop that the shooter engaged from as I
32:47
told you last night during the Tucker Carlson special and anon
32:51
Don Jr. Show was actually supposed to be posted by a local
32:56
police department or non secret service counter sniper team. So
33:00
we're clear on the facts. There were two counter sniper teams
33:04
from the Secret Service to those two were assigned to the scene.
33:08
That rooftop was obviously deemed a threat. It was a line
33:11
of sight issue. So because they didn't have the assets and I'll
33:14
get to why in a few minutes. It involves Dr. Jill Biden, who has
33:18
a extremely low threat level relative to Donald Trump. Now,
33:22
this is the breaking news right for some reason that local
33:26
police but this is not about Monday morning quarterbacking
33:29
folks again, this is not a football game. These are
33:31
people's lives. For some reason, that local tactical counter
33:36
sniper team didn't make it to the roof. What I'm hearing from
33:40
sources is that that tactical team position that through a
33:45
second floor window, which seeds the high ground now I wish I
33:51
wasn't breaking this on my show. The fact that nobody is
33:55
comfortable talking to the media because there's such insider
33:58
hacks, they're afraid they're all going to be exposed and they
34:01
all have to come to me candidly, folks is a travesty. Wait John,
34:06
breaking
34:06
Adam Curry: news breaking coming to bed. I love you have a good
34:09
trip. All right, honey, I love you. Tina is leaving for
34:12
Indiana. Oh that yeah, sorry. That was breaking
34:18
John C Dvorak: the thing that pointed that Yeah. Sorry about
34:21
that joke. Sorry. The point of that was why are you know that
34:25
Bungie and I agreed with this and nobody's talking to the
34:28
media about this? Because these guys like
34:32
Adam Curry: Sorry, right. Now we just got the dog barks. It
34:35
wasn't me. The dog is barking. Oh,
34:37
John C Dvorak: the the media are partisan hacks and you can't
34:43
talk to him. You get busted. You get outed. They're just not
34:46
trustworthy. So like that's been Geno's lament Was that why are
34:51
they telling me this stuff? I mean, I'm just a talk show host.
34:54
And that's where I thought the point where that really was.
34:59
Unknown: Um, A
35:02
Adam Curry: couple of things. First of all, if we really want
35:07
to go back to the genesis of hurting the President, I'm going
35:10
to put that squarely on. Kathy Griffin. She kicked it all off
35:15
with the Trump severed head. And boy did she pay for it dearly
35:20
with her career and with her health. So I just want to send
35:23
John C Dvorak: her a hell so I get by someone who's gone
35:26
downhill Yeah, I
35:27
Adam Curry: mean that so I we don't have to be mad at her but
35:30
she did really start this this Phoebe Be quiet. This, there's
35:38
the things that bother me. And well, okay, let me let me step
35:41
back a second. From looking at all of the videos that people
35:45
have sent me all of the personal videos, people taking all the
35:49
rumble stuff, all the Bridey on stuff, all the cue stuff. I can
35:53
safely say we have a lot of snipers in our country.
36:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I noticed that
36:01
Adam Curry: we got a lot of snipers. A lot of just go
36:05
John C Dvorak: on Twitter, the number of snipers in the
36:08
woodwork. We
36:10
Adam Curry: got snot if you need a sniper just come here and
36:12
throw a brick. And you got a sniper. I mean, it's
36:15
unbelievable. This reeks to me completely of an FBI type
36:25
operation which was probably not supposed to include a gun. And I
36:31
say this because of the very prototypical TV why we got
36:38
people working on the bathroom upset. I say this because the
36:42
very prototypical we're gonna get we're gonna we're gonna jack
36:45
you up online, probably while you're playing a game, which is
36:50
now is now known that he posted some messages on on on Steam
36:55
gaming site,
36:57
Unknown: baby.
37:00
Adam Curry: And we're going to give you some explosive devices,
37:03
I'm going to give you a remote control. And when we give you
37:05
the signal, you press that button is going to blow up it's
37:08
going to be awesome.
37:09
John C Dvorak: He did have some explosive devices in his car and
37:12
they found some at the house
37:13
Unknown: the butler Township police were not responsible for
37:16
the security of the building, according tonight, but it's
37:19
unclear which local agency was the Secret Service says it was
37:24
outside of their security perimeter, and was primarily the
37:27
responsibility of local law enforcement. Even though the
37:30
rooftop had a vantage point 148 yards from the podium the
37:35
AR 15 or variations the M four has a maximum effective range of
37:40
656 yards retired
37:42
Secret Service agent rich star poli also worked for the
37:45
Department of Homeland Security under Trump,
37:48
that building was nowhere near the outer perimeter. There is no
37:51
excuse for not having someone posted on the roof of that
37:54
building.
37:54
The Secret Service tells ABC News that no one was put on the
37:57
roof because it was dangerously sloped. That argument called
38:00
into question because of images like these. The Secret Service
38:04
did not respond to NBC News's multiple requests for comment
38:07
putting out a statement on X overnight. We are deeply
38:10
grateful to the officers who ran towards danger to locate the
38:13
gunman and to all our local partners for their unwavering
38:16
commitment. 70
38:18
It looks like a lot of pieces may be falling into place.
38:21
You're also learning there was another moment along the way
38:23
that the shooter had been reported as suspicious.
38:27
Yeah, last year for officials tell us that rally goers notice
38:30
crooks at the metal detectors, pacing and acting strangely,
38:35
police then notified the Secret Service. According to a US
38:38
official all of this happening before crooks got on that
38:42
rooftop. So
38:42
Adam Curry: all of this happened an hour before. I mean, this has
38:46
FBI written all over it. How many times have they given some
38:50
poor sap a remote control? You press this you blow it up? It'll
38:54
be awesome. You know, you'd be doing something good. The kid
38:57
literally post on Steam, like July 13. I'm making my premiere
39:04
and it's gonna be awesome. And I'm paraphrasing. I don't think
39:08
they expected him to have the gun and he popped off two shots
39:12
before it even it's not like he was an expert assassin. In fact,
39:17
according to reports from his schoolmates, he was a horrible
39:20
shock, like laughably bad, and kicked him out of the gun. Boy,
39:24
I
39:24
John C Dvorak: never heard a laughably bad Yes, I
39:27
Adam Curry: had laughably, but laughably bad is the reporting I
39:30
have. So and So then, what really bugs me is that they
39:34
start to spin the narrative. And the first narrative which popped
39:40
up a day ago was this naughty one.
39:43
Unknown: Tonight, a new report that security around Donald
39:46
Trump was increased in recent weeks, because US intelligence
39:49
learned of an Iranian plot to kill him. According to three
39:53
officials briefed on the matter, raising even more questions
39:56
about how a 20 year old gunman in rural Pennsylvania with no
39:59
apparent connect To the Iranian plot was able to get on a
40:02
rooftop last Saturday. And
40:05
Adam Curry: so not so they try it. Oh, it was Iran. It was an
40:08
Iranian plot everybody. It was Iran who did this. That's
40:11
narrative spin number one, which of course results in hilarious
40:15
gas from the mainstream media. Listen to this morning.
40:18
Unknown: We're learning more about the increased security
40:20
around former President Trump before Saturday's assassination
40:24
attempt. Yeah,
40:24
it all comes as US intelligence directed and Iranian plot. But
40:31
Adam Curry: she literally said, Yeah.
40:35
John C Dvorak: Direct in Iranian plot,
40:37
Unknown: yeah, it all comes as US intelligence directed and
40:41
Iranian plot. Truth
40:42
Adam Curry: wants to come out. So that was that was yesterday.
40:45
Today, though.
40:46
John C Dvorak: This is good one.
40:47
Adam Curry: This is the new one. This is this goes back to he was
40:49
a gamer. He was an INCEL. New
40:52
Unknown: this morning, a source tells CNN that the gunman wrote
40:57
on the gaming platform steam apparently before quote, July
41:03
30, will be my premiere. Watch as it unfolds. CNN senior
41:10
national security analyst, former assistant secretary for
41:12
the Department of Homeland Security, Julia Cayambe, is with
41:15
us now. So what do you think about that there was some kind
41:19
of cryptic, somewhat cryptic posting, from the shooter.
41:23
Yeah, so he knew what's interesting about all the
41:25
information we're getting out is now is that he knew that there
41:30
was some performative, violent action that he wanted to do,
41:35
right. So there's, because he's looking at the DNC dates, he's
41:39
looking at the Trump dates, he's, he's sort of searching all
41:42
around. He then focuses on a relatively close event for him
41:47
geographically, which is Trump. So we know that for reasons that
41:51
might be you know, psychological, historical, for
41:56
him, cultural, he's isolated, I keep looking for a moment to get
42:01
his headline. What's interesting is, he doesn't care what the
42:05
headline is, I mean, in other words, his search history now is
42:09
showing someone who's sort of scrambling for an ideology. And
42:12
that's what so I think you for this kind of political
42:16
assassination attempt is, we generally have a mode of
42:19
relatively quickly they either don't like the candidate, right,
42:22
so or trying to do something to impress someone to say, the
42:27
Ronald Reagan assassination attempt. And so I think we're
42:30
going to learn a lot more and what we may learn, John, is that
42:34
we can't put a nice bow around this.
42:37
Adam Curry: Yes, you can. Insell loner, no, no girlfriends,
42:42
bullied at school playing video games, wanted to make a name for
42:46
himself had no political motive, very well done, well done. And
42:51
just as stupid and bumbling as, as the Secret Service, and no
42:56
disrespect. I mean, it's just the fact you know, half of these
43:00
people probably don't train enough in a in a real life
43:03
situation. You know, one of our producers also mailed in, well,
43:07
you know, the DEI hire, she's probably our first real live
43:12
event, you know that something really happened. And maybe, you
43:15
know, she was adrenaline's flowing, couldn't reholster her
43:18
weapon. But that's because we all believe in the movies. So
43:23
then we have this other fantastic, fantastic quote from
43:28
The Secret Service Director Cheatle why no one was stationed
43:31
on the roof, which has just resulted in hilarious memes
43:35
Secret
43:35
Unknown: Service Director is saying a decision was made early
43:39
on not to place any personnel on the rope. That building in
43:44
particular has a slope roof at its highest point, she said, and
43:48
so you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered
43:52
there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped
43:55
roof. It's
43:56
Adam Curry: hilarious. The memes like cows on the roof, you know,
44:00
John C Dvorak: that roof is hardly even sloped. No, it's,
44:03
Adam Curry: it's ridiculous. So everybody's full of crap.
44:07
Everybody in the whole veil has just dropped has been lifted
44:11
really? Like oh, oh, it turns out, you're not really safe.
44:14
Give me a break.
44:16
John C Dvorak: But you remember when Trump first got elected in
44:19
2016 He didn't trust the Secret Service and decided to have his
44:24
own people. Yes.
44:26
Adam Curry: Now it's my understanding he still has his
44:28
own people. It could be but I don't know which ones my
44:33
understanding is he has special forces which may have been the
44:36
military guys who who also see who pointed
44:39
John C Dvorak: the gun at it. Yeah. See pretty ineffective.
44:42
Now I have
44:43
Adam Curry: two clips. And by the way, I just want to say
44:46
again, Secret Service they all did shield him and that does
44:51
take a certain amount of who takes a lot of guts so and you
44:54
know I don't want to disparage people. I just being realistic
44:58
about this.
45:00
John C Dvorak: You have we have we have our to shooter new
45:03
details. Let's get this out of the way. Okay,
45:05
Unknown: we're learning new details about the suspected
45:08
shooter who tried to assassinate former US President Donald
45:11
Trump, or authority say Thomas Matthew crooks was scheduled to
45:16
work the day of the shooting, but took the day off. Law
45:19
enforcement said crooks first arouse suspicion three hours
45:23
before the shooting at the rally venue when he pre our security
45:27
are carrying a rangefinder. The binocular type devices are used
45:32
by hunters or target shooters to measure distances when setting
45:35
up a long range shot
45:37
Adam Curry: as amazing it's amazing. Hey, what's that rate
45:39
arrange a rangefinder. Okay, carry on.
45:43
John C Dvorak: Come on. And the other only other clip I've got
45:47
on this is Butler Police Department clip.
45:50
Adam Curry: Whereas Yes, God is here. Meanwhile,
45:53
Unknown: the butler Police Department has confirmed its
45:55
officers confronted the gunman on the roof outside the Trump
45:58
rally last Saturday shortly before he fired the former
46:01
president coming close to killing him more from MPRs
46:04
Martin Kosti
46:05
In a written statement the butler Township Police
46:07
Department says its officers were assigned traffic duty
46:10
outside the rally traffic but they broke free from that to
46:13
respond to a report of a suspicious mail around a
46:16
business called American glass research. They didn't find him
46:20
at first, then one officer hoisted another to the roof
46:23
where the gunman pointed his rifle at him, causing the
46:26
officer to let go and fall. The statement says the gunman opened
46:30
fire quote Moments later, it's still not clear whether the
46:34
Secret Service's Protection Plan relied on the sheriff's office
46:37
state police or other local officers to safeguard that
46:41
rooftop.
46:43
Adam Curry: So you know and you know me as a conspiracy
46:45
therapist, I'm looking at everything. You know that that
46:50
weird Q anon guy was in the audience. He didn't move. He
46:53
knew it was coming. Q Q was all set up is it's all it's all. I
46:57
mean, so just for the record, I completely believe that this
47:00
happened. This kid was probably not even supposed to fire it's
47:04
it feels completely like an FBI.
47:06
John C Dvorak: Your thesis I liked the idea that this was an
47:09
FBI another one another six weeks cycle FBI scam
47:14
Adam Curry: not meant not meant to actually harm the president
47:16
they
47:16
John C Dvorak: have this and the kid because he was he was so I
47:20
guess spun up by the FBI. That he decided you know, he's going
47:26
to freelance instead. They picked the wrong guy.
47:29
Adam Curry: They well he even said that you got the wrong guy.
47:32
He said it on that video. That's right. You got the wrong guy.
47:34
I'm not just gonna detonate some bombs, which probably as far as
47:38
I can tell, we're not detonate double, or deaths and double,
47:42
which would be typical, which should be very and you haven't
47:45
heard Oh, yeah, they had to detonate him because they were
47:47
bombs. No, he didn't. They didn't blow them up in the in
47:49
the detonation unit. Now it's like is a little unclear about
47:53
that. Okay, fine. Then we have the photo of the bullet. This is
47:57
another point of contention. People saying that, it's,
48:05
there's no reason there's no reason for this shot to have
48:08
ever been made. And I'll explain why as we have Doug Mills from
48:11
the New York Times who has been a photographer of presidents, I
48:16
think since forever, forever, ever. He explains his settings.
48:20
And he does say something interesting here.
48:23
Unknown: My name is Doug Mills. I've been covering politics
48:25
since 1983. And I was yesterday covering President Trump's rally
48:30
in Butler, Pennsylvania. I was taking pictures and that's when
48:33
the Pops started happening. And I just happened to have my
48:36
finger on the shutter and I heard the Pops and just kept
48:38
shooting. I didn't know what I captured. But when I got to my
48:42
laptop, I could see that bullet flying behind his head because
48:45
it's definitely not in the frames right before it. And it's
48:49
not an afterwards it's only that one frame. And I was shooting an
48:52
8,000th of a second. It captured that streak behind him. So
48:56
Adam Curry: the so the theory goes no reason he was shooting
49:00
at 1/8000 of a second. He wanted to get the shot of Trump's head
49:04
exploding. I'm not a photography expert,
49:09
John C Dvorak: but a lot of that's interesting. I haven't
49:11
heard that angle. Oh, yeah. Well, so
49:14
Adam Curry: first of all, he says here like I looked at my
49:16
laptop. In an interview on NBC, which was too boring and too
49:20
long. He says he sent it to his editor and his editor called him
49:23
and said hey, you don't you won't believe what you have. So
49:26
there's a little discrepancy in his story there. But it's my
49:31
understanding that if you are photographing in a very bright
49:36
daylight environment and you want to blur out the background,
49:40
you want to have your object very sharp that 1/8000 of a
49:44
second is not completely out of the out of the range of ideas.
49:50
Now you know more about it than I do.
49:54
John C Dvorak: is pretty high shutter speed. But you can get
49:57
some you can get some effects that you otherwise wouldn't have
50:03
by shooting at that speed, that's a very high speed. I'm,
50:07
you know, if he is he's a professional photographer, he
50:11
wants to shoot a lot of shots. He's probably shooting like a
50:14
maniac. I mean,
50:16
Adam Curry: like, no more. It's more. I mean, these things do
50:19
spray and pray. That's what you do. That's why he got That's
50:22
John C Dvorak: right, exactly. There's two kinds of
50:24
photographers I've run into over the years who, because I've had
50:26
a lot of photos taken for one magazine or another. And there's
50:30
two kinds of photographers you run into. The one is the like
50:33
you just described, they take it, they sit you down, and they
50:37
will take, I don't know, 200 pictures of you. Yeah. And then
50:42
they'll, and then they show you the proofs and the doll on the
50:46
sheet, little bitty pictures. And then you circled a couple
50:48
that you might like, or he'll say, here's the one I want to
50:50
use. And maybe you're allowed to select it or not depends on the
50:55
photographer. Most of the time, they'd let you pick one that you
50:58
don't look at any idiot. And then there's the other kind and
51:01
I had this done for my when I did the telecommunications book
51:04
in the 80s this guy he and this is the other kind of
51:10
photographer and this is the artist. He shoots an eight by 10
51:15
Negative Yeah, on a big giant camera set you up. Brings a
51:21
makeup person in they stand you there.
51:24
Adam Curry: We got to do a Polaroid first Polaroid.
51:27
John C Dvorak: I don't remember the Polaroid on the hustle. The
51:30
hospital for lighting the hospital blah, you put the
51:32
Polaroid back on it first not a Hasselblad This is an I know a
51:35
10 I know I'm just telling you. Yeah, Hasselblad guys are pretty
51:39
close to the same thing. Because they got a big negative. So the
51:42
guy sets up shop and he's got this big camera, they put you up
51:47
there make you up, you're probably I don't remember the
51:49
Polaroid but he probably did that just to get the lighting to
51:52
make sure it looked okay. And then takes one picture. And it's
51:57
perfect. That's a different kind of photographer. And so you have
52:02
the two got two different styles. But, but shooting one
52:06
1000 means you weren't really trying to get a lot of shots
52:08
off. I'm sure this shooting that, you know, maximum frames
52:12
per second blank, blank, blank blank.
52:14
Adam Curry: I mean, there's a lot of people very suspicious of
52:17
this. If that's all you got then okay, you wanted to get the
52:20
exploding head shot of the year, you know, but I just exploding
52:25
John C Dvorak: headshot would never be you know. So that
52:28
doesn't make any sense. They're not nobody's going to print a
52:31
shot of a guy's head exploding.
52:34
Adam Curry: So now is the next part of the theory. Now and this
52:37
one I actually wanted to call up Horowitz. But then I found a
52:42
clip. This is the the wealth fund management that shorted the
52:48
d j t stock. Yeah, the day before the shooting 12 million
52:55
shares, which was not really a short it was a put, which is
53:00
technically
53:01
John C Dvorak: it's basically a short E. Okay.
53:04
Adam Curry: And Jason Goodman called and got someone on the
53:08
phone. Hello,
53:10
Unknown: Alex. Is this
53:12
Mr. Wagner? Yes. My name is Jason Goodman. We don't know
53:16
each other. But I was calling to see if you're aware of this
53:18
information that's going around the internet, about Austin
53:22
private wealth, shorting 12 million shares of Trump media
53:29
stock is this. Is there anything to this? There's a lot of
53:31
information about your company going around right now. Right?
53:34
I don't think so. It was a reporting error. So if you go
53:39
back and look at that same baling, you'll see it show that
53:43
it was a clerical error in the violin. Well,
53:46
how did that occur? I mean, were you
53:48
trying to short fewer shares than that? It's how could such
53:51
an error like this, it seems like a remarkable coincidence
53:53
for that dramatic of an error to occur the day before this
53:57
historic incident, doesn't it?
54:01
So the reporting is generated June 30. And it was a clerical
54:06
error. I do believe we'll be releasing something to our
54:11
website with more detail on a bid if you go look at the
54:14
updated piling up the proper, proper data in there.
54:19
Adam Curry: So that's something for Horowitz but I'm sure you
54:22
can tell.
54:23
John C Dvorak: I kind of talked about it. Yeah. About we talked
54:26
about the stock and his response to the shooting which if
54:30
skyrocketed the next day was that squeezing shorts. Well,
54:34
that well it was a put the puts a really just get wiped out, you
54:38
know, it's not like you had to cover yours, right?
54:40
Adam Curry: You don't even get don't get wiped out a put is is
54:43
a is a fraction of the total share amount correct?
54:48
John C Dvorak: Because it's basically an option is stock
54:50
that's borrowed and sold and it's as an option option, right?
54:55
So you lose your option. You basically it's not like actually
54:58
when you actually short you can lose You're asking
55:01
Adam Curry: your house and everything. Yeah, you can
55:03
John C Dvorak: lose a lot of money if you're short against
55:07
run up, I think, panic and you sell bad you buy Oh,
55:10
Adam Curry: they also wrote call options. I think that a straddle
55:13
going.
55:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that would make sense. But I mean, there's
55:16
these operations do that constantly.
55:18
Adam Curry: But the second part of it is that this awesome
55:21
wealth management fund, they donate a lot of money to Jews.
55:26
So you know, I'm just saying that to do with it, I'm just
55:29
saying, I'm just saying it was all kinds of stuff like that.
55:34
So, so people are really going, sadly, a bit off the rails with
55:38
this. Whereas I think the only explanation I can come to is,
55:44
it's almost like Occam's razor. We've seen this from the FBI,
55:48
the remote makes total sense.
55:51
John C Dvorak: The FBI immediately took over the
55:53
investigation. Of
55:54
Adam Curry: course they did. And it will, you know, who knows if
55:57
this will ever come out, because typically they do a report and
56:00
they say, Well, I'm a confidential informant person
56:02
and, you know, call in I talked to this kid for two months, and,
56:06
you know, that would make nothing but it has all the
56:09
hallmarks everything to make a big Bloom to make, you know,
56:13
make some noise. Now, could that have been pro Trump may be I
56:18
don't know. But there has always been a conspiracy against Trump,
56:23
there is a conspiracy and there always will be the literal
56:26
definition to breathe together. There is a conspiracy and it's
56:30
massive. Its massive, they hate the guy would they I mean,
56:37
John C Dvorak: a large contingent of the of the of the
56:40
government yes of the government itself hates the guy this is
56:44
true. The stock market and making any friends by making it
56:49
by putting JD Vance in there who's who probably is more
56:52
against the administrative state and Trump himself
56:57
Adam Curry: well, the stock market responded very favorably
56:59
to Trump surviving this assassination.
57:03
John C Dvorak: Yes, the death it's fast it's gone way higher
57:07
than I expected it to. I mean, it's up I think the Dow is at 42
57:12
Now it's it should I am stunned is over 40 is amazing. It's
57:16
amazing. It's just Yeah, but But it's over over heated our
57:21
anyway.
57:23
Adam Curry: Just for just because I love George Carlin
57:27
wanted to play his 42nd bid on assassinations, which is always
57:31
just fun to listen to We miss him assassination.
57:35
Unknown: You know what's interesting about assassination?
57:37
Well, not only does it change those popularity polls in a big
57:40
fucking hurry. But it's also interesting to notice who it is
57:45
we assassinate you ever notice who it is not to think of who it
57:47
is we kill. It's always people who've told us to live together
57:51
in harmony and try to love one another. Jesus Gandhi, Lincoln,
57:55
John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Medgar
57:58
Evers, Malcolm X, John Lennon, they also try to live together
58:01
peacefully
58:04
in the fucking head
58:11
apparently we're not ready for that.
58:15
That's difficult behavior for us.
58:18
Adam Curry: Miss George,
58:19
John C Dvorak: we need to wait that is a good bit
58:21
Adam Curry: we need to every couple of years and I need to
58:23
give you massive props. You called it You nailed it right on
58:27
the money. President Trump walks in on the first day of the
58:31
Republican National Convention with a big bandage on his ear.
58:35
You could not have been more right about this.
58:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, why would you not do that?
58:40
Adam Curry: It was it was I mean, it was just it was so big
58:43
though.
58:46
John C Dvorak: There was criticized for their fact
58:48
there's a funny meme going around I might put it in the
58:50
next my pillow says no, the meme is I don't understand why he's
58:56
wearing such a big bandage what's what's he afraid of? And
59:00
then the person saying this The Meme Meme or has got a big giant
59:03
mask on Yeah, I've
59:05
Adam Curry: seen COVID mask so here guys. I'm sorry. I
59:09
John C Dvorak: was just gonna say the this became with some of
59:13
the MSNBC and some of these other I don't know if it's CNN
59:16
and MSNBC virtually. They started bitching about this
59:19
bandage. And, and so they had to get Ronnie Jackson or Jones
59:25
whatever's there. JOHNSON I can't remember his last name.
59:28
Jackson, I think who's Trump's still Trump's doctor? Yes,
59:33
Jackson check. He had to put the giant bandage on because the
59:37
nature of the wound is such that because at the end, that skin is
59:41
very susceptible. This is just really just cartilage. Yeah, it
59:46
is. He said Jackson said that if you touched it just touched it.
59:51
It would start bleeding so you had to protect it with a big
59:55
bandage.
59:56
Adam Curry: So Trump comes walking in and this is CNN with
1:00:00
former Fox host, Chris Wallace, and Jake Tapper, and even they
1:00:05
could not deny the electrifying moment that it was Chris Winston
1:00:11
Unknown: Churchill famously said nothing in life is so
1:00:14
exhilarating as to be shot at without effect. And you can see
1:00:19
that today the idea that just hours ago, a few days ago, this
1:00:24
man and assassin's bullet whizzed by him, hit him in the
1:00:28
ear, inches from his temple, and it'd be just by the slightest
1:00:34
fraction of an inch. He survived shot without effect. And you can
1:00:38
see the, the joy of this crowd, I gotta tell you, as somebody
1:00:45
who's been covering these, these conventions since 1964, that may
1:00:50
have been the most electric moment I ever saw that was quite
1:00:53
extraordinary. You can do whether you like the man or not,
1:00:57
that was
1:00:59
well, I mean, this is a crowd these 10s of 1000s of people who
1:01:03
love Donald Trump, and they, this, this figure that that
1:01:09
figures so prominently in their lives,
1:01:11
and it's so interesting tonight, there has been zero talk about
1:01:15
the Democrats and rhetoric and political rhetoric and blaming
1:01:19
the media, why that's all been talked about. Evidence, a
1:01:23
miracle. And I think that's what most of these people view is
1:01:27
that it is by the grace of God, that Donald Trump is here
1:01:31
tonight and representing them going forward. So
1:01:34
Adam Curry: that was kind of interesting. Trump's first truth
1:01:37
or truth, truth post truth was, this was God alone who saved me.
1:01:44
And the certainly the first day of the convention, there was a
1:01:47
lot of God talk two
1:01:48
Unknown: days ago, evil came for the man we admire and love so
1:01:54
much. I thank God that His hand was on President Trump. Because
1:01:59
on Saturday, the devil came to Pennsylvania holding a rifle.
1:02:07
But an American lion got back up on his feet.
1:02:14
Continuing on the religious theme and actual man of God paid
1:02:17
tribute to Trump's rhetorical style, much to the former
1:02:21
president's July,
1:02:22
you're gonna be so blessed. You're gonna be tired of being
1:02:29
blessed. I guarantee it's believe me.
1:02:35
Adam Curry: That guy was pretty funny.
1:02:36
John C Dvorak: Did you see him? Yeah, you know, the whole
1:02:39
convention has been a tear jerker, the way they
1:02:43
orchestrated and I have to say that I have seen a lot of these
1:02:46
conventions. I went to one once when I was in high school, which
1:02:49
was that where Wallace was, it was it was it was a long time
1:02:53
ago. Was I think was the last San Francisco convention
1:02:59
whatever the case was you that you can get into these things. I
1:03:03
didn't remember ever being checked for guns or anything but
1:03:06
you get in as you go it this is the era of the all the signs
1:03:10
used to be on sticks. I noticed this two things that yes,
1:03:13
convention. Yes, there's no stick, no sticks. People just
1:03:18
holding different signs up as though they run the like, card
1:03:22
section of a college football game where they have these
1:03:25
different cards, they lift this way, okay, lift up card number
1:03:28
three, and they lift up to one of the cards and every night is
1:03:31
a different card. Because they've had this they've made
1:03:34
this convention thematic with a different theme for every night.
1:03:38
And they preface all the speeches, all the big, big boy
1:03:41
speeches, with the general public coming out and giving
1:03:45
their stories, and they're just heartbreaking. And they just to
1:03:49
make it sound like the country is falling apart. And it's very
1:03:53
well done. I think this is the best orchestrated convention
1:03:57
I've ever seen. And so far as showmanship is concerned, you
1:04:00
can see Trump's the TV background and you know, he's
1:04:04
talking to Bert Burnett and some of his buddies to make the
1:04:08
design to sing the way it is. It's spectacular. The
1:04:12
Adam Curry: last night they had the Goldstar families 13 of them
1:04:15
who lost kids in Afghanistan home man they all went up there
1:04:21
and said Joe Biden lied He said not a single serviceman or woman
1:04:26
lost lost their life on his watch. He has never said my
1:04:31
child's name out loud and then they all went you know, they
1:04:35
said the names out loud and the crowd said their names out loud.
1:04:39
I mean, that was just like an even CNN I didn't clip all of
1:04:42
that but even CNN was like, well, that's a political you
1:04:45
know deathblow right there which it was a lot
1:04:49
John C Dvorak: of it was a I would say all ever all three
1:04:51
days so far and tonight OB Trump's night have been like
1:04:56
that. They've been just it's been. I've never seen anything
1:04:59
so Well done. They
1:05:01
Adam Curry: had the worst speech I think was Don JR. He's not a
1:05:06
good orator, but he did bring out his granddaughter. I mean,
1:05:10
Troy's great brought as daughter Trump's grant and she gave her
1:05:13
grandpa's cool type speech was fantastic, brilliant move. JD
1:05:20
Vance made some as a huge, huge mistake. He forgot that this was
1:05:27
being televised. He was talking to the audience. He was playing
1:05:32
on the crowd. He forgot that he was being he was on television.
1:05:36
That was
1:05:37
John C Dvorak: a bad and see it as a faux pas unnecessarily. I
1:05:41
noticed about him was that he needs his elocution could be
1:05:45
improved. He could have a little deeper voice and yeah, he sounds
1:05:51
a little thin. But I basically liked it. But he did. You're
1:05:57
right. And the artists do different kinds of chants like
1:06:00
Jay Dee's mom's mom was there that was fantastic. The JDS
1:06:05
mommy they would they would start chanting different things
1:06:08
they'd make up in the audience and then JD was merging, ma'am,
1:06:12
ah, grandma and all the rest of it. I actually watched I thought
1:06:17
I thought he was is no advance. I wasn't thinking they were
1:06:22
going to pick him. And I thought it was because of the beard. For
1:06:26
one reason, but everybody's treated like a
1:06:28
Adam Curry: Mimi likes, Jr. has a beard. I don't understand why
1:06:31
people say no, I
1:06:32
John C Dvorak: don't know what I was thinking when I made that
1:06:34
assertion because Eric has a beard. Did Yeah. He has a beard.
1:06:38
Yeah. They're all bearded. Yeah. So maybe it's just Trump doing
1:06:42
is, you know, sleight of hand, but I heard JD Vance. Two days
1:06:49
earlier on the Hannity radio show. I was driving to the
1:06:52
store. And Hannity was on with JD Vance. And I had never He is
1:06:58
quick witted. He's fast. He's sharp. He was holding his more
1:07:03
than holding his own. He was dominating Sean Hannity on the
1:07:06
radio show. And he was just I'm listening to him going, oh, boy,
1:07:10
this is news to me. And when I heard him on the on the radio
1:07:14
just going, you know, just at the sounding, I would say,
1:07:18
competing with Kellyanne Conway from talking to Mike. I was
1:07:24
impressed and so I when I heard I saw I was waiting for this
1:07:27
speech. And it is EQ could have been maybe it could have been
1:07:31
improved. But you know, they could have given a little big
1:07:34
bottom. Running through some some. You mean
1:07:37
Adam Curry: what I give you I give you a big bottom twice a
1:07:40
week bottom. Yeah.
1:07:41
John C Dvorak: So that I now I think, Okay, this guy's probably
1:07:45
okay. And he is only 39. And he and he does. He's definitely a
1:07:50
Trumper. And he's got the same basic concepts and ideas even
1:07:54
though the Cole Wallace just calls him a brown noser.
1:07:57
Adam Curry: Well, here's, here's JD Vance. I think this is the
1:08:00
Ohio senatorial race, where you know, he's, his feet are held to
1:08:04
the fire. You are never Trumper you call him an eight hole. But
1:08:08
borderline Nazi, which he did. And here's JD Vance.
1:08:12
Unknown: You've admitted you've changed your mind on Donald
1:08:15
Trump. But in the past, you've said quote, I'm a Never Trump
1:08:18
guy, quote, My God, what an idiot and, quote, God wants
1:08:21
better of us all statements. You have either said or tweeted
1:08:24
about Donald Trump at some point, the question you have 60
1:08:27
seconds, why should Trump voters Trump supporters? Vote for you?
1:08:31
Yeah, look, I
1:08:32
mean, all of us say stupid things. And I happen to say
1:08:34
stupid things very publicly. You know, I've been very public
1:08:38
about the fact that I voted for the president 2020 that I was
1:08:41
wrong about the president back in 2015 2016. And that he has
1:08:45
been the greatest president of my lifetime. For the very simple
1:08:47
reason. There are many, but one very important reason is that he
1:08:50
revealed the corruption in Washington DC, I mean, who would
1:08:53
have believed five years ago, six years ago that the FBI would
1:08:56
actually investigate illegally get an illegal wiretap on a
1:08:59
sitting US presidential candidate, we saw that Trump
1:09:03
revealed it. And he revealed in a way that showed us the sticks
1:09:06
of the fight, which is why I'm running for this office in the
1:09:07
first place. And one thing I'd point out is that, you know, I
1:09:10
was I was I was just north of 30 years old, when I said a lot of
1:09:13
those things. Lots changed in my life. I reengaged. With my
1:09:16
faith. I got baptized three years ago, I've had three kids
1:09:19
since then, you know, a lot different. And one of the things
1:09:21
that's different is that I did change my mind about Donald
1:09:23
Trump. He was a great president. And I think at the end of the
1:09:26
day, one of the things this race presents is an opportunity who
1:09:29
actually agrees with Trump on the core issues of trade of
1:09:31
immigration who's willing to fight for an America First
1:09:34
foreign policy? I think it's clearly me.
1:09:37
Adam Curry: Interesting, got baptized. Yeah, he
1:09:40
John C Dvorak: also did a well, I know you respond to that. He
1:09:44
also had another interview. I think maybe it was on Hannity.
1:09:49
He kind of blamed the media for brainwashing him against Trump.
1:09:53
Oh, I
1:09:53
Adam Curry: wish we had that one. I
1:09:54
John C Dvorak: wouldn't. I wish I had it, too. Wouldn't surprise
1:09:56
me. That makes nothing but sense.
1:09:59
Adam Curry: So A couple other people showed up. The most
1:10:02
interesting one to me was Amber Rose. Amber Rose, who has a huge
1:10:10
social media following. I think mainly for her boobs. And she's
1:10:16
black or mixed race. And so she came out and by the way, she's
1:10:22
most famous for dating Kanye West. That's really what oh,
1:10:26
just her. Yes, she
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: did. She was good. The
1:10:29
Unknown: first person I knew who supported Donald Trump was my
1:10:32
father. I was shocked. My entire family is racially diverse. And
1:10:38
I believe the left wing propaganda that Donald Trump was
1:10:41
a racist. My father said, No, he's not Amber, what are you
1:10:46
talking about? And when I insisted, he said, prove it. So
1:10:51
it's approved my father wrong. I did my research and looked into
1:10:55
all things Donald Trump. People have to do their research. I
1:11:04
watched all the rallies. And I started meeting so many of you
1:11:08
his red hat wearing supporters.
1:11:17
I realized Donald Trump and his supporters don't care if you're
1:11:21
black, white, gay or straight. It's all love.
1:11:25
It's all my baby.
1:11:34
And that's when it hit me. These are my people. This is where I
1:11:37
belong.
1:11:48
I let go of my fear of judgment, of being misunderstood of
1:11:52
getting attacked by the left and I put the red hat on too.
1:11:56
Adam Curry: So this was this really shook a lot of people up.
1:11:59
Here's a quick reaction from the daily blast. People have
1:12:02
Unknown: a right to change their minds. I think flexibility of
1:12:05
thought is very important. But right now, this moment, to me
1:12:11
when it comes to Amber Rose is giving the short line. I've
1:12:15
spoken about the short line a lot because when you're a person
1:12:18
of color, you're often enticed with more revenue, more
1:12:22
eyeballs, more of a following if you do the contrary and point of
1:12:27
view to people like you and from the people who don't because you
1:12:30
stand out. Exactly. I see. And that's what it was giving to me
1:12:35
last night.
1:12:37
Adam Curry: She doesn't really care. Here's Van Jones. He had
1:12:41
his own take,
1:12:42
Unknown: but what I would say is would you call them in CO aid
1:12:46
coalition. I see it as the Republicans are trying to eat
1:12:52
our cookies. We've had some cookies called the black vote
1:12:57
and they're trying to take those cookies we've had the labor vote
1:13:00
they're trying to take those cookies. Cookies man cookies
1:13:05
John C Dvorak: that's a good one.
1:13:07
Adam Curry: Take it our cookies. Oh no.
1:13:11
John C Dvorak: So another person similar to their her speech? I
1:13:15
thought that was really got the audience were devastated Jewish
1:13:18
student from Harvard. Oh, last night Oh, Mastodon
1:13:22
Adam Curry: went crazy. Dog these bringing into you to the
1:13:25
bringing into uterus. Literally, literally, literally. Oh, no.
1:13:31
John C Dvorak: The biggest anti semitic operation there is.
1:13:34
Adam Curry: It's unbelievable. You mean the fediverse?
1:13:37
John C Dvorak: The fediverse Yeah, to federate, versus I call
1:13:40
it Mastodon because it's bested on
1:13:42
Adam Curry: Yeah. And then you had the two Americans whose son
1:13:46
is is a hostage and they they were very unsuccessful at
1:13:51
getting the crowd to do bring them home.
1:13:54
John C Dvorak: And they didn't get bring them home started but
1:13:56
it didn't go very far. Now the
1:13:57
Adam Curry: rhythm was all off was it was not good. One other
1:14:02
observation. Now Mike Johnson who just has a Cheshire Cheshire
1:14:07
Cat vibe about him? And I don't like
1:14:10
John C Dvorak: not you Mitch. I never thought of it. I did
1:14:12
something about his stupid grin. Not like I didn't recognize now
1:14:17
that you mentioned Cheshire cat that's exactly what it is. And
1:14:21
Adam Curry: did you see the hammer? The gavel? No that
1:14:26
things as big as his head. It's it's the biggest gavel I've ever
1:14:32
seen anywhere.
1:14:34
John C Dvorak: I have a short clip with by Johnson. Okay. This
1:14:38
is called another investigation as an NPR clip. House
1:14:41
Unknown: Speaker Mike Johnson is launching a bipartisan Task
1:14:44
Force to investigate the attempted assassination of
1:14:46
former President Trump appears Claudio Gusau supports
1:14:49
congressional briefings are also being held with officials about
1:14:52
the shooting. Speaker
1:14:53
Johnson told Fox News that investigators will be able to
1:14:56
move faster than a traditional committee and have the thority
1:15:00
to force witnesses to testify, there's not
1:15:03
a lot of the procedural hurdles and we'll have subpoena
1:15:05
authority for that task force as well. It'll be compelled to
1:15:08
Republicans and Democrats to get down to the bottom of this
1:15:10
quickly, so the American people can get the answers that they
1:15:13
deserve.
1:15:14
Johnson's Task Force is expected to be part of several
1:15:17
congressional probes that will look into security failures
1:15:21
posed by the shooting at the Trump rally in western
1:15:24
Pennsylvania
1:15:25
Adam Curry: now, just to counter your slight snide remarks,
1:15:30
despite the fact that he's a believer. I do not like Mike
1:15:34
Johnson. I
1:15:35
John C Dvorak: don't like him either. I do. I do like the fact
1:15:37
that he's political enough that he was the one sitting next to
1:15:40
JD Vance's mom, who's 10 years sober as they like to keep
1:15:45
pointing out. And he was kibitzing whether Yeah. And it
1:15:48
was it was it was cute to see because he was, yeah, he's
1:15:52
smart. That way. You know, he's smart.
1:15:54
Adam Curry: We watched Hillbilly Elegy I'd never seen it had not
1:15:57
read the book. Impressive story. And I'm going to presume it's
1:16:02
true. But so many people Oh, no, he's manufactured. He's
1:16:07
manufactured. Where I came away. Have you seen the movie or read
1:16:11
the book? No, I
1:16:12
John C Dvorak: have not seen the movie. I've not read the book.
1:16:14
Adam Curry: I came away from it thinking Wow, seriously, only in
1:16:18
America. In America, can you go from from the backwoods of well,
1:16:23
really Kentucky but also Ohio? You know, what, what people
1:16:27
would call white trash? Yeah, I
1:16:29
John C Dvorak: would say what he's definitely would be called
1:16:32
white trash,
1:16:33
Adam Curry: you know, and then go into after 911 Go into the
1:16:37
Marines. And, and then with GI Bill was able to barely scrape
1:16:42
by in Yale. You know, the whole story is nice. Firstly, went to
1:16:46
Ohio, Ohio. I'm sorry, the Ohio State.
1:16:49
John C Dvorak: Where Yes. A person always says,
1:16:53
Adam Curry: Now is there a football thing between Wisconsin
1:16:56
and Ohio?
1:16:57
John C Dvorak: No, it was the football thing is between Ohio
1:17:01
State and Michigan and Michigan bring it? Yeah. Okay. And it's a
1:17:04
major major hatred between the two schools. Hey, another
1:17:09
Adam Curry: thing I do like he owns over $100,000 in Bitcoin go
1:17:15
JD
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: you'd like that go Jay dad and being baptized
1:17:18
would be your your two things. Well,
1:17:20
Adam Curry: Guy on that note, what do you think so Trump said
1:17:24
he has completely rewritten his speech. He threw it out. He
1:17:27
said, I'm going in a completely different direction. Besides
1:17:31
Hulk Hogan showing up tonight, which would be awesome.
1:17:33
John C Dvorak: It couldn't be by the way Trump could be Miss
1:17:35
directing. He does that constantly could be. In fact, in
1:17:39
fact, I'd never realized it until the the Trump
1:17:44
granddaughter came up to 17 year old and gave that little speech
1:17:47
and talked about him trying to psych her out on the golf
1:17:50
course. Being kind of an a hole, which is what sports guys do to
1:17:55
each other. Well, she's
1:17:56
Adam Curry: she's teaching her she's teaching her to be
1:17:58
competitive. That's what a good grandpa Papaw does. Don't your a
1:18:07
grandpa, don't mess with your kid or with your grandkid all
1:18:11
the time. You do the best you can to get them prepared for
1:18:14
life and you'll be able to figure out hoaxes
1:18:18
John C Dvorak: that were the parents won't do any of the good
1:18:20
stuff. No,
1:18:21
Adam Curry: that's why you give the your grandson now
1:18:23
noisemakers right for his birthday. Oh,
1:18:26
John C Dvorak: yeah. You want to always give kiss? Drum Kit is my
1:18:29
favorite gift drum.
1:18:33
Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly. So I believe Elon Musk may be
1:18:38
speaking tonight. That'll be interesting. So let's just go
1:18:42
back to JD Vance for a second. I think he's a good pick. Even
1:18:46
though you are sure was going to be Marco Rubio, no doubt about
1:18:50
it. Looking
1:18:51
John C Dvorak: back on it, largely because of the beard
1:18:54
again. i What were you thinking, man?
1:18:56
Adam Curry: What were you thinking?
1:18:58
John C Dvorak: I was thinking that Trump was was you know, you
1:19:00
weren't course I never heard Trump say this could have been
1:19:03
you heard it. Yeah. Yes, suckered suckered by the media.
1:19:07
So what else is new? I mean, this is what they do. And so I
1:19:12
have some JD Vance clips. Oh, yeah. Let's do that with Misty,
1:19:14
give us a little insight here. Oh, I only have two actually.
1:19:17
They're both from NPR and this talking about his techie does
1:19:20
why thing must go be there. This JD Vance? techie.
1:19:25
Unknown: The Republicans night two of the GOP convention was a
1:19:29
night of rivals coming together to back Donald Trump, including
1:19:34
his final primary opponent to drop out Nikki Haley.
1:19:37
I'll start by making one thing perfectly clear. Donald Trump
1:19:44
has my strong endorsement period.
1:19:48
Tonight, Ohio Senator JD Vance will accept his party's vice
1:19:52
presidential nomination. You might be
1:19:54
aware of Vance's roots in Appalachia, thanks to his best
1:19:57
selling memoir, Hillbilly Elegy is less known or his roots in
1:20:01
the world of Silicon Valley and venture capital. As NPR is Bobby
1:20:05
Allen reports Vance has close ties to tech billionaires could
1:20:09
supercharge Trump's reelection bid supercharge shortly
1:20:12
after JD Vance published his memoir Hillbilly Elegy in 2016.
1:20:16
Another career began to rise in San Francisco. He was hired to
1:20:19
work in a venture capital firm run by Peter Thiel, the co
1:20:22
founder of PayPal, who is one of the most powerful figures in
1:20:25
Silicon Valley. Here's writer Max chavkin, who wrote a book on
1:20:28
teal that mentions Vance
1:20:30
Vance worked for teal for a relatively short amount of time,
1:20:33
less than two years and then moved to Ohio, where he
1:20:37
continued to invest but clearly was starting to, you know, think
1:20:40
about his political future.
1:20:42
But before his political life even started he launched his own
1:20:45
VC fund with backing from Thiel and other tech heavy hitters
1:20:48
like investor Marc Andreessen. In other words, he was compiling
1:20:51
a deep pocketed tech roster that came in handy when he ran for
1:20:55
Senate in Ohio and one with financial help from Thiel and
1:20:59
other tech investors. And now as Trump's vice president pic Vance
1:21:02
is tapping his tech billionaire contacts once again and a
1:21:06
growing group of them are embracing the mega movement says
1:21:08
author jaskin So
1:21:10
Adam Curry: this is also quite controversial the to connection
1:21:13
and so the messages I receive are keys is Intel is is Palantir
1:21:20
T IL is it's no good. This Oh, no, he's all in with the
1:21:24
intelligence agencies. He supported by them. He's bringing
1:21:27
in he's a horrible guy. And I'm thinking my uncle was one of the
1:21:31
highest guys in the CIA. Why are you listening to me if you think
1:21:35
that way?
1:21:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I would say the same thing. i Why is anyone
1:21:39
listening to you?
1:21:40
Adam Curry: Yeah. Really stop. Now, the
1:21:43
John C Dvorak: other thing about this read, there's a second clip
1:21:45
and now I actually have a third. Well, I'm going to play an inner
1:21:48
rate intermediate exam, because when Trump picked this just a
1:21:52
very short clip is only a couple seconds. But this is where the
1:21:56
NPR says that they that Trump named his dick.
1:22:01
Unknown: So Trump named Vance is pick on Monday, you have been
1:22:03
speaking to Republicans in Milwaukee, how's he being
1:22:06
received?
1:22:07
Adam Curry: Let me hear that again.
1:22:08
Unknown: So Trump named Vance's pick on Monday, you have been
1:22:10
speaking to Republicans in Milwaukee, how's he been?
1:22:13
Adam Curry: You know, that's what you want to hear. Maybe? I
1:22:16
don't know. I
1:22:18
John C Dvorak: you know, I listened to it. I slowed it down
1:22:20
and everything and he definitely says Pick it pick is what I
1:22:23
heard. But if you dropped the idea that he says Dick, and you
1:22:27
listen to it, he says dick. Yeah, yeah. It's the blue dress
1:22:31
dress. Gold. Silver. Yes. I mean, let's play the second part
1:22:35
of the JD Vance clip. It's
1:22:37
Unknown: tempting to paint us with a broad brush and say all
1:22:39
of Silicon Valley is getting behind the former president. But
1:22:42
what's actually happening is that Silicon Valley's right wing
1:22:46
has been activated and persuaded to open their pockets.
1:22:50
A new tech align political action committee called America
1:22:53
PAC was unveiled just after Trump announced Vance as his
1:22:56
running mate. Elon Musk is poised to flood the group with
1:22:59
cash venture capitalists Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz,
1:23:02
also planned to contribute on the duo's podcast on Tuesday,
1:23:05
Horowitz said he wished they didn't have to pick aside but
1:23:09
the future of our business, the future of technology, new
1:23:14
technology and the future of America's literally at stake.
1:23:17
Many big players in Silicon Valley traditionally sat on the
1:23:20
sidelines for presidential elections or voted for
1:23:22
Democrats. But now that has changed. Samuel Hammond is an
1:23:26
economist at the right leaning Think Tank foundation for
1:23:28
American innovation. He says many of the new financial
1:23:31
backers of Trump and Vance are placing big bets on two
1:23:34
industries artificial intelligence and crypto
1:23:39
pays off depends entirely on the policy of the US government.
1:23:43
chavkin,
1:23:44
the book author who is also a reporter at Bloomberg
1:23:46
Businessweek says there is a fear that AI policy and the
1:23:50
Biden White House will be too heavy handed.
1:23:52
They perceived, you know, to some extent, I think correctly,
1:23:55
that Joe Biden less so than pretty much any president that
1:24:00
they have encountered in their lifetimes, is not as willing to
1:24:04
accommodate them
1:24:05
newly added to the Republican Party platform just in time for
1:24:08
the RNC, repealing Biden's AI executive order that attempts to
1:24:12
provide some modicum of AI oversight. Oh, I
1:24:15
Adam Curry: can't Well, we'll talk about AI in a moment
1:24:17
because,
1:24:18
John C Dvorak: uh, you know, Silicon Valley's mostly
1:24:21
Democrats know
1:24:22
Adam Curry: what not to hold on a second before Obama. They were
1:24:26
all reading Ayan Rand and they were all wearing Rolexes and
1:24:30
then they
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: came along and they all became Democrats and
1:24:33
they became staunch Democrats that John Doe is always a
1:24:35
Democrat.
1:24:36
Adam Curry: Yeah, he doesn't count. He doesn't count. Well,
1:24:38
he's VC
1:24:40
John C Dvorak: you know, and he's getting most of those
1:24:41
Kleiner guys are Democrats, persons a Democrat, they're all
1:24:44
Democrats, but they
1:24:45
Adam Curry: were all reading iron Rand and talking all big
1:24:48
Rolexes and fast cars were still they
1:24:52
John C Dvorak: were still supporting the Democratic
1:24:54
candidates and they all were jobs had me to upset his house
1:25:01
yeah, Tim Cook had big, you know, money gathering operations
1:25:05
and
1:25:06
Adam Curry: other things that
1:25:08
John C Dvorak: Zuckerberg put a bunch of 400 million bucks or
1:25:11
some ridiculous amount of money into the in Wisconsin.
1:25:16
Adam Curry: We just put it this way. Silicon Valley are
1:25:18
globalists, they're not bright or left really the globalist
1:25:22
whoever has the best globalist
1:25:26
Unknown: path
1:25:27
Adam Curry: they'll take. That's what they can argue about that.
1:25:31
No, absolutely true. That's that's what
1:25:33
John C Dvorak: they really are. They tend to be Democrats in
1:25:36
terms of where they give their money. I mean, in
1:25:38
Adam Curry: fact, if we just really think about it, the
1:25:39
Republicans, Republican Party, the Democrats, it just you get
1:25:43
lower taxes. And that's about the only thing so far until
1:25:46
Trump came along and he stopped wars, which is a big problem. So
1:25:49
he's gonna have to deal with with that without stopping war
1:25:52
business, he's
1:25:53
John C Dvorak: gonna have to still stopping Wars is not good
1:25:56
for business. Well, unless
1:25:57
Adam Curry: you ramp up China, which he's always been, he's
1:26:00
always been an anti China guy. And, you know, we need big
1:26:04
beautiful ships subs that go so deep deeper than others. Now
1:26:09
that I'm thinking tonight, and this really hit me because I saw
1:26:14
Tucker did a speech. Why are you laughing? Why you're laughing?
1:26:20
John C Dvorak: Because Tucker has been showing up everywhere.
1:26:23
Exactly. He
1:26:23
Adam Curry: shows up the first night. He's right there.
1:26:27
John C Dvorak: And he was right there. He was up into in that
1:26:29
booth where Trump was a VIP
1:26:31
Adam Curry: box. Yeah. So so why is Tucker there? Why I think
1:26:37
Tucker, then he's been hanging out with Trump a lot. Now he
1:26:41
goes to the UFC fights, there's Tucker. You know, Tucker is
1:26:45
around Trump a lot in sightless call it social settings. So I
1:26:51
think he has his ear.
1:26:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I was looking at the damage. And I cut
1:27:01
down the
1:27:01
Adam Curry: background and he drops. So so just taking him at
1:27:08
his word, which is usually a mistake, and maybe even some art
1:27:12
of the of war. Perhaps Trump is going to change the battlefield
1:27:17
tonight. He has said that he doesn't want to go into this
1:27:21
whole mode about, you know, whatever he was going to do is
1:27:24
it was he was, he was going to burn everything down who's going
1:27:27
to, you know, just slash and burn the Democrats. He says he's
1:27:32
going to change it all up. So just at face value with Vance,
1:27:39
even Mike Johnson, with his close call with what everyone is
1:27:43
saying at this convention,
1:27:46
Unknown: Tucker, again, and again, and again, throughout
1:27:48
history, there are forces within every society because they
1:27:51
reside in the human heart, that are against people, they are
1:27:54
dedicated to the destruction of people and the civilizations
1:27:57
that people built. And if you pay any attention at all, to
1:28:04
history, you will recognize it. It's like wait a second, people
1:28:07
are saying exactly the same things, the climate people, the
1:28:10
AI people, the transhumanist people, the Biden administration
1:28:12
are seeing exactly the same kinds of things, the same themes
1:28:16
that every other movement have this kind of they had a million
1:28:19
different names for them. Throughout history, we're also
1:28:20
saying, just the first thing, I noticed, the second thing I
1:28:24
noticed is what do all of these movements for the past 2000
1:28:27
years have in common? Who do they hate most? As you can tell,
1:28:30
by what I said about JD Vance, I think you'll learn very much by
1:28:35
taking a look at who's mad at whom and about what. So if
1:28:40
there's something that threatens you pay close attention to what
1:28:42
makes them angriest. But certainly true in my business,
1:28:46
which is the speech business. What are they trying to get you
1:28:48
not to say? What are they punishing you for saying those
1:28:50
are likely to be the truest things, not the false things.
1:28:53
It's not misinformation, it's not disinformation, as truth.
1:28:56
That's why you hate it. Obviously. It's obvious now took
1:28:59
me about 10 years to figure this out. I'm not a super genius. But
1:29:03
What group do they dislike most? What group are they absolutely
1:29:07
terrified of, and hoping to eliminate what's Christians?
1:29:11
That's who it is, as Christians. And I'm saying this is not a
1:29:15
particularly fervent, lifelong Christian, I am a Christian. But
1:29:19
I haven't spent my life you know, surrounded by plumes of
1:29:22
incense deep and prayers went away from the newsroom saying
1:29:25
the F word. I mean, I'm not sort of a pious person at all. But I
1:29:30
try to be a notice or since I'm paid to do that. And the group
1:29:34
that makes them angry as triggers that most I guess we
1:29:36
would say now is Christians, Christian nationals and people
1:29:41
pray outside abortion clinics, people celebrate Easter and not
1:29:44
trans visibility day. These are the real enemies. But that's
1:29:49
been true in every revolution in the past 2000 years. It
1:29:57
Adam Curry: was a really it was an interesting speech, the
1:29:59
Tucker game If, and so I'm thinking If Trump were to move
1:30:03
this from lawfare to spiritual warfare, he has a whole
1:30:07
different game going on. And I'm just saying this from an
1:30:10
analytical point of view because here's the stories that are
1:30:14
popping up. New York Times this is this is after Saturday,
1:30:17
Trump's devotees see God's protection. Christian
1:30:21
nationalism is emerging as an overt threat to democracy. Los
1:30:27
Angeles Times, pro Trump Christian extremists use
1:30:30
scripture to justify violent goals Washington Post, The
1:30:35
Defiant Trump image that made critics join the cult I mean,
1:30:38
it's, it's everywhere. Yeah,
1:30:41
John C Dvorak: well, this is the atheists getting a little
1:30:46
Adam Curry: upset well, on cue, someone who I don't really even
1:30:51
like that much I try to avoid playing any clips is Josh
1:30:54
Hawley. Now isn't Josh Hawley also a tech guy?
1:30:59
John C Dvorak: Who I think that I know of I mean, Josh Holly's
1:31:02
name has come up in the conversation quite a bit. Well,
1:31:06
here's a look him up while you are here.
1:31:08
Adam Curry: Here's a clip that that popped
1:31:10
Unknown: up. Faith leaders are speaking out on what they say
1:31:12
are the dangers of Christian nationalism, and its impact on
1:31:16
our democracy and government. This
1:31:17
is in response to Senator Josh Holly's words advocating for
1:31:20
Christian nationalism a week ago, or David M. allottee. is
1:31:23
breaking down the conversation for us in studio tonight. So
1:31:26
these religious leaders today tell me their biggest fear is
1:31:29
violence in the aftermath of Senator Holly's speech where he
1:31:33
advocates for Christian nationalism, but insists he is
1:31:36
for religious tolerance. I'm told by the panel of faith
1:31:38
leaders today the issue with professing advocacy of Christian
1:31:42
nationalism is that the stance nice religious freedom to Jews,
1:31:45
Muslims, LGBTQ Christians, and people of color. And
1:31:50
some will say that I'm advocating Christian
1:31:53
nationalism. And so I do that
1:31:55
extra tough last Monday speech by Senator Josh Hawley continues
1:31:59
to make waves in our country and pulled together religious
1:32:02
leaders in Missouri this Monday, condemning the senior senators
1:32:05
words Christian
1:32:06
nationalism is not compatible with religious tolerance or
1:32:09
religious freedom, because it's saying we will have a Christian
1:32:12
nation sorry, Muslim, sorry, Jews, sorry, atheists, this
1:32:16
nation isn't for you the same way it's for others at best will
1:32:19
tolerate you being here. But you don't get the same level of
1:32:23
rights as others. Christianity is 2 billion people across the
1:32:26
world. It's a very diverse religion. So when they talk
1:32:29
about a Christian nation, they really mean a very specific form
1:32:33
of mostly white that mostly evangelical conservatives,
1:32:37
straight patriarchal Christianity, that often becomes
1:32:41
white Christian nationalism.
1:32:42
Last week, Senator Hawley said his focus is keeping the left
1:32:45
from destroying the First Amendment and religious liberty
1:32:48
our country is built on. It's a
1:32:50
fact of history not open to debate. It's a fact of history,
1:32:54
that we were founded by Christian believers and that our
1:32:56
fundamental ideals, including those in the Constitution, the
1:32:59
Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights all come to
1:33:02
us from the Christian tradition. That's just a fact. And I think
1:33:05
it's worth preserving.
1:33:07
Adam Curry: So that man has a lot of fear,
1:33:10
John C Dvorak: but no, no tech connection. And I thought, why
1:33:13
don't I think that what is the opposite? What what is he?
1:33:15
Adam Curry: Where does he come from?
1:33:17
John C Dvorak: Well, he actually graduated from Stanford. And he,
1:33:24
I mean, he lives in Missouri, obviously. And he went up and
1:33:27
he's another Yalie. I could just like, oh, like Vance, like
1:33:31
advance and you guys run the country, and what was what
1:33:36
they're up to?
1:33:37
Adam Curry: So what is interesting is there's that you
1:33:39
said,
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: Holly's been on this theocratic thing forever. I
1:33:42
didn't know nothing new with him.
1:33:44
Adam Curry: I didn't know that. But he but he, he said, I'm a
1:33:48
Christian nationalist, and everyone freaks out about it.
1:33:51
And then you know, so there's, oh, it's and then you get all
1:33:53
these so what do we really have? We have the sparkle clergy which
1:33:57
is you know, God is trans. Then we have the extreme right nut
1:34:02
jobs. You know, God Hates Fags, you know, go in a storm storm
1:34:06
abortion clinics? No, I mean, there's all kinds of crazy
1:34:09
things going on. And then you have the, what they call like
1:34:13
the remnant church who believes in the history of America being
1:34:18
you know, the Pilgrims came literally after, strengthen
1:34:22
their faith in Leiden of all places, and Amsterdam. And you
1:34:26
know, all of the first presidents, the con everything
1:34:30
is all based upon upon the word of God. So Holly's actual
1:34:34
message is something that I think Trump could actually use.
1:34:38
Unknown: The left's primary purpose is to attack our
1:34:40
spiritual unity our common loves. They want to destroy the
1:34:44
affections that link us one to another, and substitute a set of
1:34:48
all together different ideals. The left preaches its own
1:34:51
gospel, a creed of intersectionality of deliverance
1:34:55
from tradition, from family from biological sex, and of course
1:34:59
from God They regard the faith of our fathers as a fetter to be
1:35:03
broken. they deem our common moral inheritance is cause for
1:35:06
repentance. Instead of Christmas they want pride month instead of
1:35:11
prayer in schools they venerate the trans flag. Diversity,
1:35:15
Equity and Inclusion are their watchwords their new Holy
1:35:18
Trinity. And they expect their preachment to be obeyed. They
1:35:23
may speak of tolerance, but they practice fundamentalism. Those
1:35:28
who resist are called deplorable. Those who questioned
1:35:32
are labeled threats to democracy. And this is why
1:35:34
progressives, I submit to you have such a little patience
1:35:37
these days for working people. They're too attached to the old
1:35:42
ways to the old faith of God and family, home and nation. Now,
1:35:48
this is the left's true replacement theory, their true
1:35:51
replacement agenda to replace the Christian ideals on which
1:35:56
this nation was founded, and to silence those Americans who dare
1:36:00
still stand by them. Boom.
1:36:02
Adam Curry: That's That's what Trump should do tonight.
1:36:04
John C Dvorak: I don't think Trump's going to do that. I
1:36:06
don't think that's what he should do. I think he's just
1:36:09
falling into a trap. If he does, I think he's going to be mostly
1:36:12
about family in the working class. All right. That's why he
1:36:16
brought on I think the most of
1:36:18
Adam Curry: the head of the Teamsters team said, well, they
1:36:21
want they want labor on their side, they want their cookies.
1:36:25
They
1:36:25
John C Dvorak: want to steal the cookies. From the Democrats and
1:36:28
cookies. They already had, they got plenty of religious stuff
1:36:32
going on. They don't need to Trump doesn't need to pile on
1:36:37
that he's not going to mention it. But I think it's going to be
1:36:40
about family is going to be about unity. And it's going to
1:36:43
be about and he's going to slip a bunch of labor stuff in there
1:36:46
to try to get the working class, the middle class. And blacks and
1:36:50
Hispanics. He's going to do a lot of crossover stuff to bring
1:36:53
them in because he knows that there they can get a lot of
1:36:57
black votes, mostly black men. And black women still reject
1:37:02
him.
1:37:02
Adam Curry: Keep your eye on Hulk Hogan tonight to see what
1:37:05
he said he's
1:37:05
John C Dvorak: gonna have Hogan. Yeah. How to yeah, don't get
1:37:07
what that group that's just that's kind of
1:37:09
Adam Curry: now you watch you. I'm going to disagree with you
1:37:13
on this. But
1:37:14
John C Dvorak: yeah, we disagree. You can disagree. I
1:37:16
don't think he's going to push that. It's not a good idea.
1:37:19
Adam Curry: I think it's a great idea that obviously you would
1:37:22
Yes, i You're a religious No, I'm a Jesus freak, as though.
1:37:29
That's what I am.
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: Is religious free?
1:37:33
Adam Curry: No, no, no, I'm not. I'm a Jesus freak, not a
1:37:36
religious freak. Because different things anyway, just to
1:37:39
move to the AI portion. Because that's very interesting that
1:37:43
these tech bros, as Kara Swisher would call them, the tech bros.
1:37:47
Oh, yeah, they want to AI regulation, you know, we got to
1:37:51
change that. We got to get rid of it. You can't hamper our
1:37:54
fantastic investment. Yeah,
1:37:56
John C Dvorak: let it the way I see it. Let that aI think
1:37:59
collapse on its own. Wait, why should the government get
1:38:02
involved?
1:38:02
Adam Curry: Here's the Goldman Sachs exchanges podcast about AI
1:38:07
and the investments,
1:38:08
Unknown: the biggest challenge is that over the next several
1:38:12
years alone, we're going to spend over a trillion dollars
1:38:15
developing AI, you know, around the infrastructure, whether it's
1:38:18
datacenter infrastructure, whether it's utilities,
1:38:20
infrastructure, whether it's the applications, a trillion
1:38:24
dollars, and that is the issue, in my mind, what trillion dollar
1:38:27
problem is AI going to solve? This is different from every
1:38:31
other technology transition that I've been a part of over the
1:38:34
last 30 years that I've closely followed the technology
1:38:37
industry, historically, we've always had a very cheap
1:38:40
solution, replacing a very expensive solution. Here, you
1:38:44
have a very expensive solution that's meant to replace low cost
1:38:48
labor. And that doesn't even make any sense from the jump.
1:38:51
Right? And that's my biggest concern on AI at this point.
1:38:54
But
1:38:55
isn't technology always expensive? In its nascent stage,
1:39:00
and then you improve, you evolve, you iterate and the cost
1:39:04
comes down? Dramatically? Yeah,
1:39:07
not always. Let's take E commerce and the internet as the
1:39:10
best example of this from the get go, right? You had a very
1:39:14
cheap technology ecommerce, replacing a very expensive brick
1:39:17
and mortar retail solution. Amazon was able to sell books
1:39:20
from the first day that they started selling books on the
1:39:23
internet, because it was cheaper to sell over the internet than
1:39:26
it was for Barnes and Noble to have retail stores. That was
1:39:30
cheaper from the beginning like so there's a real life example
1:39:33
of arguably the most important technology development of our
1:39:36
generation e commerce that was cheaper from day one. Fast
1:39:39
forward 30 years, right. And it's still cheaper. We still
1:39:42
have a cheaper solution replacing a more expensive
1:39:45
solution. Take, you know, Uber replacing limousine services,
1:39:48
right. So you started cheaper and 30 years later, the internet
1:39:52
is still enabling things to be cheaper than what the incumbent
1:39:55
solution is. There's nothing about AI that's cheap today,
1:39:58
right and your star Going from a very high cost base. So that
1:40:02
part I think there's a lot of revisionist history on about how
1:40:05
things always start expensive and get cheaper. Nobody started
1:40:08
with a trillion dollars.
1:40:11
John C Dvorak: You know, he could have been pushed back
1:40:12
further. When she did. It's never been more expensive
1:40:16
navigating now, I mean, when the when the personal computer first
1:40:20
came out those things to put them together. So there's
1:40:22
actually useful it cost about $3,500 for a machine. As opposed
1:40:27
to today, you need a Beelink, which has more power with a
1:40:30
great, great hard drive. Well, that's your issue. Yeah. So get
1:40:36
us can condition to power, that would be my advice. Anyway. The
1:40:42
point is, is that it's always been when that's when the $3,500
1:40:46
machine came out, or even you could even spend more than that.
1:40:50
It was so much cheaper than a mini computer. You're a
1:40:53
mainframe everything else in between. It's, there's no it's
1:40:56
always been cheap. It always starts off, it starts off
1:40:59
cheaper. That's your original, so called value proposition.
1:41:02
Jumper. This value is the word value. And it's always been
1:41:06
cheaper. The fact that it's going to cost a trillion dollars
1:41:09
to solve a cheap labor problem, which is like worldwide you get
1:41:13
cheap labor anywhere. Is it is ridiculous. This guy. I don't
1:41:16
know who that guy was. But he nailed it. He's from Goldman
1:41:19
Sachs. They know what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. They're
1:41:24
shorting where everyone's going long. They're shorting well,
1:41:27
they're telling everyone else to go along.
1:41:30
Adam Curry: Well, of course, that's what you do on CNBC. So
1:41:32
along in that vein, we've really started something with the
1:41:37
economic indicators. We had the the hair salons, and I think you
1:41:45
and Horowitz were doing some of this stuff. Sounded like it. I
1:41:50
got one from one of our producers who follows Helen or
1:41:53
Troy ah, oh,
1:41:55
John C Dvorak: by the way, these these are all called coincident
1:41:58
indicators. Is this a known unknown thing to look out for?
1:42:02
Adam Curry: I like economic indicators better, but Cohen's
1:42:07
What do you call them? Coincident
1:42:09
John C Dvorak: indicators, inquiries, their economic
1:42:11
indicators that just happened to coincide with some other action
1:42:15
going on someplace else. So if you can find one that's obscure,
1:42:19
and that really nails it, you can make a lot of money. Well,
1:42:22
Adam Curry: here's one this is. So how long are Troy there hair
1:42:25
hair products. Consolidated net sales declined 12.2% driven by
1:42:30
declining sales of hair appliances, prestige, haircare
1:42:33
products and humidifiers in beauty and wellness.
1:42:38
John C Dvorak: Helena Troy became a produce some earnings
1:42:42
recently they were off Mark. Yeah. And they became a kind of
1:42:46
a topic of discussion for an entire day at CNBC.
1:42:50
Adam Curry: Here is I like this one police officer in Chicago
1:42:54
here. Hello, thank you for your service. And in Chicago for both
1:42:59
police and fire departments for the last four to five years as
1:43:02
it has a large quantity of people passing up the
1:43:04
opportunity to take the job. And a lot of people in Chicago have
1:43:07
mentioned that the economy's good is good. And people don't
1:43:10
want to be cops or firemen. Because money is loosen. There's
1:43:13
plenty of jobs. I am roughly 35 years old, and I have had at
1:43:16
least three people that are around my age as my advice on
1:43:19
becoming a police officer in Chicago. One of them works in
1:43:23
finance, finance, but stated its suit on finance. It's too boom
1:43:28
and bust and the market is brutal. I'm also noticing a lot
1:43:31
of people in my age group 28 to 35 moving back home with parents
1:43:34
I think we can assume 2020 21 was the generations 2008 But
1:43:39
covered up by COVID. Like has been discussed on the show. He
1:43:42
feels that when when people start to look for jobs at police
1:43:46
and fire that that is an economic indicator of rough
1:43:50
times ahead. Right that's I think we could have an
1:43:54
interesting thesis. I think we can have the copy indicator, and
1:43:58
then hop indicator. Yes, the copy indicator. And then the
1:44:03
most mind boggling segment on CNBC. All the orange pill boys
1:44:10
are jacked
1:44:11
Unknown: as you know, I was discusses
1:44:13
Adam Curry: Larry Fink tick
1:44:17
Unknown: I was a proud skeptic. And I studied it and learned
1:44:23
about it and I came away saying okay, you know, my opinion five
1:44:27
years was wrong. Here's my opinion say this is what I
1:44:29
believe in today. I believe the opportunity today, I believe
1:44:33
bitcoin is legitimate. I'm not trying to say there's not bet
1:44:36
misuses like everything else. But it is a legitimate financial
1:44:41
instrument that allows you to have maybe uncorrelated non
1:44:46
correlated type of returns. I believe it is an instrument that
1:44:49
you invest in when you're more frightened, though. It is an
1:44:52
instrument when you believe that countries are debasing their
1:44:55
currency debase their currency by excess deficits. And some
1:45:00
countries are I believe we have countries where you're
1:45:05
frightened of your everyday existence and they have you an
1:45:08
opportunity to invest in a something that is outside your
1:45:12
country's you know, control then you can have more financial
1:45:17
control. And so I'm a major believer that there is a role
1:45:21
for Bitcoin and in portfolios, I believe you're going to see that
1:45:26
as an as one of the asset classes that we all look at. I
1:45:30
look at it as digital gold as I said before, and I do believe
1:45:34
there's a there's a there's a real need for everyone to look
1:45:38
at it as as one alternative to I would say the optimism that I
1:45:45
have in the world and I believe there's a great industrial use
1:45:48
for it and I think a lot of people are missing that
1:45:51
industrial
1:45:52
John C Dvorak: use let's see industrial use
1:45:55
Adam Curry: edge he believes it I have no idea do believes do
1:45:59
believes it. We've come a long way from being
1:46:05
John C Dvorak: last guide listen to Well, I mean, the AI guy and
1:46:08
you know, the black group Black Rock has got their heads up.
1:46:12
Biden's ask. Yeah, and
1:46:13
Adam Curry: they make no money. They're very unsuccessful. Oh,
1:46:16
they made
1:46:17
John C Dvorak: plenty of money, but they're not making money
1:46:19
because of these this off handed advice that they're giving other
1:46:22
people okay.
1:46:25
Adam Curry: All right. You know, they have an ETF, right? It's a
1:46:28
very successful Bitcoin ETF. So they do put their money where
1:46:33
their mouth is.
1:46:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know how successful that ETF is ETFs are
1:46:41
not a good idea. Okay, because they naturally degrade it just
1:46:46
naturally. Well, there's a real there's a real problem with ETFs
1:46:50
because you're shorting
1:46:51
Adam Curry: alright. ETFs No, good. I can't. I cannot pray
1:46:54
your comment about ETFs. All I know is they have one. We can
1:47:01
take a break here or we could get to the other big news which
1:47:04
just it spanned all the networks for about an hour and then it
1:47:09
disappeared. But man this was a doozy. Senator Baldwin has left.
1:47:13
What was it? Here it is.
1:47:15
Unknown: Senator Bob Menendez left Federal Court today a
1:47:18
convicted
1:47:18
criminal and deeply deeply disappointed by the jury's
1:47:22
decision. The jury finding
1:47:24
him guilty of 16 counts including bribery, extortion,
1:47:28
and acting as a foreign agent.
1:47:29
I have never violated my public oath. I have never been anything
1:47:33
but a patriot up my country.
1:47:35
No Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is joining a group of more than
1:47:38
30 Democrats calling for the senators resignation.
1:47:41
Prosecutors spent nine weeks proving Menendez accepted 1000s
1:47:45
of dollars in cash gold bars and a new Mercedes in exchange for
1:47:49
actions that important benefited the Egyptian government's
1:47:54
Adam Curry: they had another clip and they had his music
1:47:56
John C Dvorak: guitar and now I thought was Egypt. I mean,
1:48:00
governments this was he working for
1:48:02
Adam Curry: all kinds of government when there was this
1:48:04
the dead someone had his nickname here. I think this is
1:48:07
Unknown: a Senator Bob Menendez is facing calls to resign after
1:48:10
being convicted of corruption prosecutor said the New Jersey
1:48:14
Democrat abused his power as chairman of the Senate Foreign
1:48:17
Relations Committee by doing favors for Egypt and several
1:48:20
businessmen as part of a scheme that involved extortion and
1:48:23
bribery. Those bribes included gold bars a luxury car and
1:48:27
hundreds of 1000s of dollars. Menendez is vowing to appeal
1:48:31
Adam Curry: somewhere they call him gold bar Bob which gold gold
1:48:35
bar Bob everybody that but that guy's I mean, I still think it's
1:48:40
his wife. I think he got really screwed by his wife. Because
1:48:44
she's the one she's the one that introduced all the connections
1:48:50
John C Dvorak: a mover and a shaker that woman and with
1:48:52
Adam Curry: that I'd like to thank you for your courage say
1:48:53
in the morning to you the man who put the seeds in the coup
1:48:56
coffin say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only
1:48:58
Mr.
1:49:05
John C Dvorak: Crane Immortelle ships to see boots on the ground
1:49:07
up in the air subs in the water and all the names and nights out
1:49:09
there in
1:49:09
Adam Curry: the morning you trolls that's interesting. We
1:49:17
are about an almost as a half an hour late on the troll count.
1:49:23
Last Thursday we had 1873 and that was after about an hour and
1:49:28
10 minutes today. 2319 at a buck 50 Hello, trolls. Good to have
1:49:35
you here.
1:49:36
John C Dvorak: That's the number it used to be common. Yeah, but
1:49:39
Adam Curry: it would have been much higher if I had done it
1:49:41
half an hour ago. So the trolls are tuning it and they're doing
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are using a modern podcast app. Support your your independent
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John C Dvorak: Boom, they're gone. They're gone.
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Unknown: Poof.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right podcast apps.com. And, of
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course, you get all the cool features, which includes
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artwork. In the chapters, you get chapters, which are mean,
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there's no one really has this chapter feature. You get
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transcripts, you get all kinds of fun extras that are just not
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available. And you get these modern podcast apps alert us to
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system. Blockchain within 90 seconds of us publishing so you
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go ahead, you know, the blockchain, we have a blockchain
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is a blockchain. Yes. The pod ping system runs on a
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blockchain. Why? So it's completely decentralized. No one
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owns it. So anybody can ping the blockchain. It's not a I don't
1:50:55
want to own it. But
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: where's the blockchain is that you can
1:50:57
Adam Curry: pin it's in the cloud. The place it's in
1:51:01
blockchain space.
1:51:02
John C Dvorak: You can you can ping somebody has to be hosting
1:51:04
something. No,
1:51:05
Adam Curry: it's what, like, hundreds of 1000s of people are
1:51:09
hosting this blockchain. So you can they all stop? Yeah. Okay.
1:51:13
All right, John. They're not all going to stop. But if they all
1:51:17
stop, then we have other problems. So that blockchain has
1:51:21
been around for 50 years, the net goes down. Yeah. I don't
1:51:25
think you'll be worried about your podcast. If the net goes
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down, you won't be getting your podcast. And we can say wherever
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you don't get your podcasts. Those images come from our
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artists who understand the value for value system extremely well,
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they, they'd like to give us value back for the value they
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received from the show, which is what we've been doing. It'd be
1:51:46
17 years in October. And instead of taking corporate you know, as
1:51:50
someone got mad, and said that your tip of the day, which was I
1:51:56
think it was a book. No, it was a water filter. Was it a water
1:52:00
filter? Oh,
1:52:01
John C Dvorak: yeah. The Clearly Filtered Yeah.
1:52:04
Adam Curry: And you said you'll get it on Amazon and then
1:52:06
immediately, man, that's insulting. Do you got native
1:52:10
ads? I said, a native ad for an a water filter three hours and
1:52:15
10 minutes into the show, boy we're rockin and rollin aren't
1:52:19
we? Now the whole point of being value for values we can talk
1:52:22
about actual products we like and that we use? If you
1:52:25
couldn't? You couldn't see idea we
1:52:27
John C Dvorak: do that all the time with different computers. I
1:52:29
mentioned
1:52:31
Adam Curry: Beelink Oh, yeah. Oh, there's
1:52:33
John C Dvorak: paying us off. Yeah, they can they're losing
1:52:36
money on his computer. I
1:52:37
Adam Curry: mean, people are too conspiratorial.
1:52:40
John C Dvorak: No it's just guys like that guy's a dick. No, he's
1:52:44
Adam Curry: not he apologized. And once I said your I said
1:52:47
quite frankly I find this insulting I didn't mean it that
1:52:50
way. Okay, well
1:52:53
John C Dvorak: hey, you know now did you mean it
1:52:54
Adam Curry: people write stuff they've been I understand how it
1:52:57
works. You know, people some guy
1:52:59
John C Dvorak: wrote a note in it says I ended I offended John.
1:53:03
He goes on and on and on. And I'm thinking what? I don't even
1:53:07
know what he's talking about. It was that the Brahman? No, it
1:53:12
wasn't the Brahman Brahman I
1:53:13
Adam Curry: do offend yeah and all of India.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: He did Brahman deserves a couple of guys he
1:53:19
Lords it over everybody's a Brahmin. This would be if I
1:53:21
Adam Curry: were you, I wouldn't go to Bangladesh anytime soon.
1:53:23
I'm
1:53:24
John C Dvorak: not going to Bangladesh. I won't be there.
1:53:27
Anyway, time,
1:53:28
Adam Curry: talent and treasure is, is the way that it works.
1:53:32
You can hit somebody in the mouth, turn them on to the show,
1:53:35
get them to donate call someone out as a douchebag support us
1:53:39
however, you can't I mean, it's in kind when you're doing things
1:53:42
that would cost us money like websites. You know, the art
1:53:48
Well, I'm gonna get to avoid zero does the infrastructure
1:53:51
everybody pray for Mark, he has all kinds of intestinal issues.
1:53:54
Oh, this is not good. Now. Now it's in fact, it's really not
1:53:59
good. You know, he can't really sit down even. Oh,
1:54:04
John C Dvorak: I gotta go should give him a call. Yeah,
1:54:05
Adam Curry: you know what, he would really appreciate that.
1:54:08
And he's been he's been with the show for what? 15 years every 15
1:54:12
At least 15 of our of our 17 came in after Mr. oil that I
1:54:17
know he was there before because he had the chat. Okay, which is,
1:54:21
you know, the troll room still is is on his server. He's just,
1:54:27
there's just running for everybody, which has no agenda
1:54:30
stream, which is you know, where all the trolls hang out. So yes,
1:54:33
we do have artists who like to give us art. Some of them donate
1:54:37
to financially, but the artists just phenomenal for us to be
1:54:40
able to choose. There's a little slim pickins for us on the last
1:54:44
show. For a number of reasons we'll get to but firstly want to
1:54:47
thank our Dutch master Dame Kenny bam. We chose her volume
1:54:52
knob her rhetoric volume knob, which that
1:54:55
John C Dvorak: was a vet that was under protest.
1:54:59
Adam Curry: Yes, under protest do explain
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: was not my favorite. We've had another I
1:55:07
see it as a best possible fallback, but you are rejecting
1:55:11
everything.
1:55:12
Adam Curry: Well, here was the main problem. So we kind of
1:55:16
liked the idea of Trump as Van Gogh and Scarah manga had
1:55:23
probably the best version of Trump as Van Gogh, but you
1:55:27
didn't see it because there was John's favorite boobs front and
1:55:30
center, which
1:55:31
John C Dvorak: of course, that wasn't the reason the Bucha
1:55:33
Graham Angus boobs? No, there were two of the Dutch there are
1:55:37
two of them, the Trump and the in the past year, one of them
1:55:41
you liked which was tenten eels. And I like Scarem mangas are
1:55:46
right next to each other. And I like Scarah mangas not because
1:55:49
of the heavy topped a woman although that was not I didn't
1:55:53
think it hurt that piece by any means. But the but Scarah manga
1:56:00
did a tremendous job of making Van Gogh look like Trump he did
1:56:04
and to kneel did not
1:56:07
Adam Curry: agreed. And there were a number of people who did
1:56:12
Trump era things which we were kind of against but the Van Gogh
1:56:15
thing was funny, but they had the wrong year
1:56:19
John C Dvorak: yes, it was one piece in particular right the
1:56:21
record correct the record correct the record has the wrong
1:56:25
year and mine how would that doesn't take any talent?
1:56:29
Adam Curry: Did you see Darren O'Neal synthesis prompts for the
1:56:34
his artwork
1:56:35
John C Dvorak: yes I saw the prompts. Darren O'Neal has
1:56:37
decided to issue his own artistic capabilities in favor
1:56:44
of comic strip bloggers prompt jockey AI and he sent a sent I
1:56:51
we had did we because of the show before we demanded that he
1:56:56
sent us send us your prompts. So he sent a whole a very nice
1:57:02
presentation which is actually something that could I should
1:57:04
put in the substack column just as as as is
1:57:08
Adam Curry: was quite quite amazing how really simple it is.
1:57:12
I mean in that regard and he only pays 20 bucks a month I'm
1:57:15
sure it's costing somebody money somewhere personally,
1:57:19
John C Dvorak: you know because he just the example for that one
1:57:21
piece that he did he the thing coughed out about 10 pieces at
1:57:26
least and each one of those has got to cost a number of dollars
1:57:29
apiece to to generate by the AI Yeah. For 20 bucks a month he's
1:57:35
he's killing it. Yeah. So it's a moneymaker so so the so the
1:57:40
rhetoric button I felt felt was usable and you ended up agreeing
1:57:45
Yes,
1:57:45
Adam Curry: I did. The see what other you know, there were other
1:57:49
ear things but that I think we both felt like like gummy ears.
1:57:53
Okay.
1:57:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we didn't know it was it was that was a
1:57:56
little sick.
1:57:57
Adam Curry: Yeah, we're not we're not Kara Swisher and Scott
1:57:59
Galloway. What do you think we are?
1:58:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we try to keep the Yeah. Yeah, we're also
1:58:05
not going to do any more for the fist in the air and the flag
1:58:08
Adam Curry: and we're not gonna we're not gonna glorify anybody.
1:58:11
No, no, we're
1:58:12
John C Dvorak: not gonna it's just, you know, it's just just
1:58:15
know, we were talking about creative. We need creative. Yes,
1:58:19
Adam Curry: creative and creative means creative. It
1:58:21
comes from your soul. Yeah, that's why that's why or
1:58:27
John C Dvorak: your training. In some cases.
1:58:28
Adam Curry: That's why Darren O'Neal is one of the top of the
1:58:31
leaderboard. He has soul. Even though he is just a prompt,
1:58:36
Chucky, it's amazing. It's amazing. Well, we want to thank
1:58:41
all of our artists, of course, because they provide just a very
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valuable service. And that's how value for value works. We really
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appreciate it. Thank you so much for doing that. And now we go to
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the treasure component of our value for value model, our
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executive and Associate Executive Producers go to no
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agenda donations.com to learn how to support us with your
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finances. We do need that because this is all we have. We
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don't you know, reached out to me, podcast one. Are you
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familiar with podcast one?
1:59:14
John C Dvorak: A the name rings a bell from years ago?
1:59:16
Adam Curry: Well, podcast, one went public. And they have Adam
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Carolla and okay, that group and they said, hey, yeah, a lot of
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our users are telling us we need to get you guys into our
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network. And I reply, and yeah, they're like, Hey, we provide
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money. We got money, we help you monetize with ads and money. And
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I say, well, you're gonna have to make it extremely attractive
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for us to leave our producers behind. So I don't know if you
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if you can
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John C Dvorak: provide or do. Of course not. To grant money is
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like, you know, an exit strategy. I'm looking at their
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money is like, you know, 50 bucks. I mean, they most
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podcasters that or part of these networks don't make
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Adam Curry: anything. Well, Corolla is making something
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John C Dvorak: is he? Oh yeah,
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Adam Curry: he's definitely making some and he got stock
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John C Dvorak: the stock it probably was useful
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Adam Curry: he gots they want to hear this note. Yeah, let's play
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the note, play the note. I can't play the notes. I can read you
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the note. Let me see where it is. Hi there.
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John C Dvorak: That's a good start. That's the kind of notes
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I get on LinkedIn. I'm
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Adam Curry: the Development Coordinator at podcast one a
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full service podcast production, marketing and advertising
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as we would love to work with you on the no agenda podcast.
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Our staff has been our staff, our staff has been submitting
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their favorite podcasts and your shows come up from multiple fans
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at our company. Yeah, sure. If you're open to it, we'd love to
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set up a call or grab lunch if you're in LA. Yeah. Have you
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ever listened to our show? To see if there's an opportunity to
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work together or very least make a formal dinner? No. We limit
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the number of shows on our slate. These are real Hollywood
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people jump which has contributed to the five plus
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year longevity of hits like Are you ready for these hits?
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John C Dvorak: I'm ready lady gang.
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Adam Curry: off the vine, a an ease slate. That's arts and
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entertainment network, the Adam Carolla network, the Kyle Lowry
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network and Jordan Harbinger. Just recently we launched with
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Cody Rigsby. Have you heard of any of these people?
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John C Dvorak: No I by Adam Carolla
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Adam Curry: that we support with revenue generating a top class
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sales for Howard Stern for 20 years. John, think of the
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opportunity, I'd rather, I'd rather be dead. Seriously, I
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would rather thank our executive and Associate Executive
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Producers twice a week for sending us the value that they
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get out of the show. That's really all it is, is just
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sending us the value that you get a show of any amount,
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John C Dvorak: whether the thing is one of the things we we've
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worked out on this show is lack of dependency correct.
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Adam Curry: Because you lose one advertiser because you said
2:02:26
something stupid, and weird. And then we can't pay the rent?
2:02:31
John C Dvorak: Well, you could say something stupid and make us
2:02:34
lose to the advertiser to we bought, at fact, we used to do
2:02:39
in our in our we don't do it so much as we used to, at the end
2:02:43
of the show, when we do our post boredom to get the art and do
2:02:46
the rest of it and talk about the show. Yeah, we used to say,
2:02:49
you know, we would have been fired for this, this and this we
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used and I think we still do it, we just don't pay as much
2:02:55
attention to it. All the things we do on this show because we
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were not limited by worrying about the advertisers exam.
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We're not limited to what we say or what we do. We're live we're
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only limited by liability issues. So we and we, and we
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keep each other Brander we can't slander people. We don't do
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that. We're responsible
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Adam Curry: to each other. Right, right. Right. Best of
2:03:19
all, remember no meetings. That's the real reason right
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there. We don't want to meet with the with anyone.
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John C Dvorak: You know, lunch in LA
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Adam Curry: what's what's that big, fast moving consumer goods
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group with ie the Dutch group. What's their name? They do all
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the soap stuff. Yeah, what's their name? They do dove. Cute.
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Well, how about this? Listen, guys, we've got we've got a
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great buy opportunity. From Eric prince with his with his
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unplugged phone. You're gonna He's gonna give you a phone. And
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you can and you know what we'd love for you to interview him on
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the show. Unilever. Thank you very much. Osteen. Bearish,
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John C Dvorak: you see what? They said the name starts with
2:04:12
an E. Yeah, I was wrong. Yeah, well, that's why couldn't get
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it. Unilever Of course. Buna monster company. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: The guys at Unilever, they really would love
2:04:21
to advertise with Doug. But can you dial back? You know, the DEI
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hates because they're really big on black skin. That's the kind
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of stuff we'd have to deal with. Can you imagine Yes,
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John C Dvorak: that's exactly in fact, what you just said is was
2:04:36
from obviously, extracted from a meeting you've already had years
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ago we were doing
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Adam Curry: work and the women are always always the same type
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of woman. Yes. Hey, the team and with the team has been talking
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about your last your last episode. We have a couple of a
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couple of notes for you. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you
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be recognized as such. And we read your note and the 300 and
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above you're an executive producer and Lubar Bender, is
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from checklist of Archaea Rudnick to be exact was rude
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Nick Rudnick, rude Nick, rude Nick, and came in with a
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beautiful note that just said, love, love, love, and sent us
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$1,000
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John C Dvorak: Now, now, that was pretty, that's generous.
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That's
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Adam Curry: love, love, love donating his loving proof. Thank
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you so much Libra. And that's good to
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John C Dvorak: know that guy from Argentina says I did
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actually I'll read
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Adam Curry: it to you. I thought that was very interesting. Oh,
2:05:49
man, I have it here. As requested, I hereby confirm I am
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a DH unplugged Argentinian listener. I guess you guys were
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talking about it. I don't know if anybody else however, a bunch
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of people listen to no agenda here all hit by me still need to
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find someone I don't know who listens to the show. I live in a
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rural setting in Oregon. Why? A few houses in the woods. I can
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assure you, you can walk around the hood and you might be able
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to hear the no agenda show playing you can't miss the sound
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of goat karma in the woods. It's hilarious. I personally listened
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friends down here. Don't forget we don't have much cash but we
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Well, we just might take you up on that Santiago. Right here.
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Argentina is beautiful this time of year.
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John C Dvorak: Uruguay supposed to have some tremendous food
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then soccer players. Andrew Alexander's next on the list and
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he's from your neck of the woods, Fredericksburg, Texas.
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Hey came in with 54375 A neighbor night team. We live in
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F Burg which I guess what they call it there
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Adam Curry: were no burn though. We call it Fred. I don't know
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why you said F Berg I've read makes me makes me suspicious.
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John C Dvorak: We live in F Berg and have been on the sidelines
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of this shift for about a decade. Come by our place and
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cool water ranch. We have an insane barn with restored neons
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from Mexico and 3000 collectible liquor bottles. Hmm. He's a
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hoarder.
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Adam Curry: I got to come visit John. You'll love it. And Fred.
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John C Dvorak: Note from my friend Elias a big fan of yours.
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You should send them something. It is the note from Fred Elias,
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you should send them something about how your best friend dated
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the girl who testified against Hunter Biden and hit you in the
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mouth aka told you about the show and how we almost got shot
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by the Secret Service for grinding on Malia Obama while
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she was a Harvey Weinstein intern. So there's no way that
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guy under roof was allowed to take that shot unless it was a
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setup. Best wishes. Andrew.
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Adam Curry: Do we have the best producers or what?
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John C Dvorak: I guess so. So
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Adam Curry: I'm the ground while I was grinding Malia Obama, you
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guys. You guys are the best. Sir Smith EOPS Smith, yachts,
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this out of the way. Rodney. How are you still a douchebag and
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Robert, welcome to no agenda nation. You are now a douche
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bag. Sorry, I haven't donated in a while to be honest. I'm
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donating because of John's giant ear bandage prediction. Keep up
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the great work for more years. And he wants a couple of jingles
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here he wants. Oh, he wants he wants to dumps he wants Trump
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calm and then he wants Don't eat me Joe Biden. Okay, well, we
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have all of that. And he ends it by saying regards sir Smith
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yacht myths mediate rhymes with idiots. Okay, gotcha.
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Unknown: They did dumps they call them
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dumps big massive dump I'm gonna come
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
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Yep. JC Young is in rosharon Texas I'm probably saying that
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Unknown: formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth
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John C Dvorak: I would like to start this off in a lighter
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note.
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Adam Curry: Okay have a show no All right.
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John C Dvorak: Second half of show this is the second half of
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show oh
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Adam Curry: okay but it's not second half of show material.
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John C Dvorak: No Oh okay well second half a show well you I
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mean you confuse all you are gonna play the jingle nevermind
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don't do that. Okay, why don't you play this jingle ask Adam.
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Adam Curry: All right, everybody. It's ask Adam time
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what could be going on?
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John C Dvorak: This is actually to ask Adams. The other. So
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let's start with ask Adam puzzle Q.
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Adam Curry: Okay. And people should know that John sends me
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his clips in the morning. I don't listen to him. We don't
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coordinate. This is a this is a performance that we do together.
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So I have no idea what's coming. And here is my ask Adam. Puzzle
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cue cue for question. I presume one
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Unknown: of the world's most famous puzzles turns 50 this
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year.
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John C Dvorak: puzzle. A famous puzzle. Turns 50 famous
2:16:19
Adam Curry: puzzle I have to come up with something What
2:16:27
could the troll room was already telling me I don't I don't want
2:16:30
to I don't want to cheat. I
2:16:33
John C Dvorak: have troller Ms. is helping you cheat.
2:16:36
Adam Curry: I just looked over and they gave it they gave it
2:16:38
away? I don't I don't appreciate that troll room.
2:16:42
John C Dvorak: Comes here's your answer. There
2:16:44
Unknown: has never been a puzzle like like Rubik's Cube. Wow.
2:16:50
Yes.
2:16:51
The Rubik's cube
2:16:52
that a creator is an 80 year old Hungarian architect or no Rubik
2:16:56
back in the day, he was a professor in Budapest fascinated
2:16:59
with geometry, and he created a prototype in 1974 that took a
2:17:02
month to solve. So
2:17:04
the creator of the Rubik's Cube, Mr. Rubik himself was stumped by
2:17:07
his own invention very difficult.
2:17:09
Adam Curry: I would not have guessed that and in fact, 50
2:17:13
years, and I'm thinking back I was I 10. When that came out, I
2:17:18
guess so. No, that is crazy. It's, you know, my, my nephew,
2:17:25
Connor. Connor is from the from the elite side of the family. He
2:17:32
did his submission to an if it was the Juilliard that he plays
2:17:39
a classical piece. while solving the Rubik's Cube is a great,
2:17:44
that's
2:17:45
John C Dvorak: talent.
2:17:45
Adam Curry: I gotta find it. Yeah, he's from the, from the
2:17:49
Buckley side of the family. Dad brings
2:17:52
John C Dvorak: in a another ask Adam Q, which is a bonus. The
2:17:57
second part of this is this one.
2:17:59
Unknown: Now half a century later, about 500 million Rubik's
2:18:02
Cubes, official versions, and look alikes have been sold
2:18:05
worldwide and
2:18:06
solving it has become a competitive sport. The world
2:18:10
cube
2:18:11
Association has
2:18:12
an association for everything. Yeah, that's what the script
2:18:14
says. I wouldn't know
2:18:16
now. The world cube Association says the current world record
2:18:19
set last year is just over.
2:18:22
Adam Curry: Okay, how much time? Yeah, how
2:18:24
John C Dvorak: much time does it take to solve a Rubik's cube a
2:18:27
Rubik's Cube puzzle? By the number one guy.
2:18:31
Adam Curry: I've seen some of these. I'm going to say Oh,
2:18:33
John C Dvorak: this is astonishing to say seven
2:18:35
seconds. Play the answer heard set last year is just over three
2:18:40
seconds. Watch it on YouTube.
2:18:42
Unknown: Three seconds must be a very short video. Wow,
2:18:45
Adam Curry: three know how
2:18:46
John C Dvorak: that's possible. Except I'll say this. Now our
2:18:51
old spreadsheet guide of a friend of ours is Eric Mackey.
2:18:57
Yes. Eric Matt, the guy who does can do a Rubik's Cube in three
2:19:02
seconds sees things differently than you do. Because he can look
2:19:07
at it and then they say go and he's got it done in three
2:19:10
seconds. Eric is one of these guys. He does not the Rubik's
2:19:14
cube so much. But we used to do this all the time at the table.
2:19:17
You could take one of those crazy puzzles that have a bunch
2:19:20
of white you know, things hooked together and some off awkward
2:19:24
way and you're supposed to pull on you try to get this thing on
2:19:26
ya
2:19:27
Adam Curry: know? Those those things that curly cube metal
2:19:30
things Yeah,
2:19:31
John C Dvorak: those curly Q metal things. And I I would say
2:19:35
I would have one it took me like five minutes to you know,
2:19:38
jerking around getting the thing to fall apart. Eric and this is
2:19:42
God's truth and and he does this with other things too. He can
2:19:46
like pack a container.
2:19:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he has kind of a Rain Man vibe. You can
2:19:50
count things and room and do all kinds of stuff like
2:19:53
John C Dvorak: he does do I don't know if he does that. But
2:19:55
he does with the puzzles. He does the following. Do you put
2:19:59
it in front of him and he looks at it for about, I don't know,
2:20:05
15 seconds, and then just grab it and boom, it's all part it
2:20:09
just instant. It's like as soon as he picks it up as into the 10
2:20:12
pieces that it was designed to be part of the puzzle, and then
2:20:16
he can put it right back together. It's unbelievable. And
2:20:20
so I have to assume that Rubik's Cube guy and I've heard this
2:20:23
from a lot of engineers have these this capability. Chad
2:20:27
Heath, who did one of the buses for the IBM PC, he said he
2:20:31
didn't realize that he can, he can look at a bus. And he can
2:20:35
see immediately why it won't work. Just by what the pin outs
2:20:40
are. Contracts are going to work Contrary
2:20:42
Adam Curry: to popular belief. Eric actually has a family with
2:20:44
three kids. He
2:20:46
John C Dvorak: has three kids, and they're all a happy camper.
2:20:49
He
2:20:49
Adam Curry: figured it out.
2:20:51
Unknown: As Adam will he know Oh, really? Well.
2:20:55
I don't know.
2:20:59
Answer the question go.
2:21:04
John C Dvorak: There are people that have that, you know, that
2:21:06
was good for you, by the way how you're gonna that would sound of
2:21:11
what? You're kind of one of these guys. Oh,
2:21:15
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Oh, sound big is big
2:21:18
with me. Sound sound. I like doing so well. Like, let me do a
2:21:22
little light, light to clip in here. This, this was kind of
2:21:27
fun. Because I saw this story six days ago. And I think I
2:21:33
might have clipped it, Mike, who cares? The reason why it was
2:21:37
interesting to me is I built a website back in the onramp days
2:21:42
before it became think new ideas. And it was the website
2:21:45
you visit more than once a month tampax.com. That was the actual
2:21:49
slogan on the website. And so there was this study that came
2:21:55
out. And I had clipped off like now that's something I should
2:21:57
probably probably put on the backburner if we have some time.
2:22:01
And today, a new report comes out and I'll play the original
2:22:04
report in a moment. Dr.
2:22:05
Unknown: Lauren Stryker, thanks
2:22:06
for being with us again. Morning. So we're gonna do some
2:22:08
health headlines of the day. First off, I think we did this
2:22:11
story where they said metal was detected in tampons. Should
2:22:14
people be worried about this talk about
2:22:16
okay, this sounds terrifying, right? So I don't mind this is
2:22:19
nothing to panic about. So what's this all about? Got a lot
2:22:23
of media last week, basically, some scientists tested to look
2:22:26
for the presence of metals in tampons, all kinds of tampons,
2:22:30
every brand organic, inorganic, and they found that there was
2:22:34
metal on all of them for arsenic, cadmium, lead. So this
2:22:37
sounds terrible, right. But there's three reasons that no
2:22:40
one needs to panic. Number one is there's no evidence that
2:22:43
these metals get outside the tampon, much less get absorbed
2:22:47
by the body. Number two, we're talking trace amounts, teeny,
2:22:51
teeny, tiny amounts that are being like, clinically
2:22:54
significant at all. But number three is a big one, you're
2:22:58
already getting your daily dose of arsenic in your kale salad in
2:23:02
your arugula in any fruits or vegetables that either grow or
2:23:06
in the water, because we have metals in our water supply in
2:23:12
the ground. So this idea that you're going to put this tampon
2:23:15
in your body and it's going to do terrible things to you is not
2:23:18
based in science. This is clickbait. This is fear
2:23:22
mongering. And in fact, the people that wrote this article
2:23:25
said, Hey, this is like no big deal. We just want people to
2:23:28
know this. And let's just talk about organic for a minute.
2:23:32
Adam Curry: The reason why I play this is because I happen to
2:23:36
know how these companies operate. And the choice a young
2:23:40
woman makes between different menstrual cycle products will
2:23:45
probably determine their usage for the rest of their life. So
2:23:49
Tampax was really all in on trying to get young girls as
2:23:53
soon as possible to use their product. And what this was, was
2:23:57
a bogus as stupid study from the makers of cup products, which is
2:24:03
now all over social media girls going oh, look at this. They're
2:24:06
all getting paid for it. So they put out this fear mongering
2:24:10
report.
2:24:10
Unknown: As you can well imagine I have a teenage daughter and
2:24:12
I'm thinking about this, you know, for her as well. And so we
2:24:16
are going to spend a bit of time talking about alternatives for
2:24:19
people that they can consider if they are concerned about this.
2:24:22
Okay, well let
2:24:23
me tee you up on that one.
2:24:24
Adam Curry: Let me tee you up. This is MVC let me tee you up.
2:24:26
Let's read what the script says. Okay, well,
2:24:29
Unknown: let me take you up on that. What are what are some of
2:24:30
those alternatives? I think people know obviously pads are
2:24:33
an option there's
2:24:36
a exactly so there are two things that were kind of
2:24:38
similarly there are there are menstrual cups there are
2:24:41
menstrual discs which essentially sort of
2:24:43
Adam Curry: this was a native ad of horrible proportion.
2:24:47
Unbelievable scaring people into thinking this arsenic in your
2:24:51
tank what goes
2:24:52
John C Dvorak: on and the mainstream media constantly as
2:24:55
suppose it news exactly, the exactly disgusting Yes. And then
2:25:01
we get called out because I recommend a water filter. Well,
2:25:04
there's that.
2:25:06
Adam Curry: It's your own fault. You did it. You brought that on
2:25:09
yourself. Hey, let me tee you up. John. Let me tee you up. I
2:25:12
need to be teed up. I'm gonna tee you up with a very short
2:25:16
report from The King's Speech, which was Prince Charles. And
2:25:21
this is the piece that was sent to me a
2:25:23
Unknown: bill will be introduced to progressively increase the
2:25:25
age at which people can buy cigarettes and impose limits on
2:25:30
the sale and marketing of vapes. Ministers will also legislate to
2:25:34
restricted advertising of junk food to children. Along with the
2:25:40
sale of high caffeine energy drinks, to children, a bill will
2:25:44
be introduced to progressively Oh,
2:25:46
Adam Curry: sorry. So there you go. Progressively making it
2:25:50
difficult to get vapes get your hand on vapes and energy drinks
2:25:54
and junk food. The King is very obsessed.
2:25:58
John C Dvorak: It's worse than that. I sent him a bunch of
2:26:01
clips from the King's speech that were done by NTD. UK, which
2:26:07
I normally don't. Interesting. Okay, so they have these are
2:26:11
four clips and they stay in the fourth clip is the kicker. But
2:26:15
let's listen to the basic introduction just
2:26:18
Adam Curry: like a State of the Union. What exactly is the
2:26:20
King's speech?
2:26:22
John C Dvorak: The King's Speech is confirming what the new party
2:26:26
is is up to and agreeing with it and promoting it and it seems to
2:26:32
me that's what it is. The queen I think just be the Queen's
2:26:34
speech, but she never got so involved hit this guy's almost
2:26:38
like wanting to be a governor. I don't like this guy. Just
2:26:42
Charles. No,
2:26:43
Adam Curry: he's a douche. Sorry. He's
2:26:46
John C Dvorak: definitely in on you know all this. This is this.
2:26:51
If you listen to these four clips, this is Britain turning
2:26:56
socialist. King Charles says I'm concerned I'm sorry. As far as
2:26:59
I'm concerned. As far as
2:27:00
Unknown: you're concerned, King Charles has set out the new
2:27:03
government's legislative agenda. The King's speech delivered
2:27:06
within a ceremony full of pageantry promises a government
2:27:10
of service focused on reviving the economy and tackling issues
2:27:13
from an acute housing shortage to the cost of living crisis.
2:27:17
Jean Charles sat down Prime Minister Kier, Starmer has
2:27:20
legislative agenda on Wednesday, promising a government of
2:27:24
service focused on reviving the economy. Charles told the
2:27:28
gathered peers and MPs. The Government's program will be
2:27:31
based upon the principles of security, fairness and
2:27:34
opportunity for all.
2:27:36
Stability will be the cornerstone of my government's
2:27:39
economic policy. And every decision will be consistent with
2:27:43
its fiscal rules,
2:27:45
Adam Curry: the package of more than 35 bills were focused on
2:27:48
growing the economy, performing planning laws to make it easier
2:27:51
to build homes, speeding up the delivery of major infrastructure
2:27:55
projects, improving transport and creating jobs. My
2:27:59
Unknown: ministers will get Britain building, including
2:28:02
through planning reform, as they seek to accelerate the delivery
2:28:06
of high quality infrastructure and housing. They will also
2:28:10
pursue sustainable growth by encouraging investment in
2:28:15
industry skills and new technologies.
2:28:19
Adam Curry: Now, do they need the approval of the king in
2:28:23
order to implement because it says My ministers
2:28:26
John C Dvorak: because I thought it was just simply they do
2:28:28
Adam Curry: I thought there was just a formality is tradition.
2:28:31
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a formality but turns out
2:28:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, turns out
2:28:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this guy who is a socialist as far as I'm
2:28:40
concerned, he continues and we're going to clip to its
2:28:42
Adam Curry: charter home and also set out plans to gradually
2:28:45
rationalize the passenger rail network, and set affordable
2:28:48
fares to draw people back on to train Wait, did he say
2:28:51
nationalize?
2:28:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah nationalized.
2:28:55
Unknown: This decision would mostly reverse the privatization
2:28:58
of the railways, conducted in the 1990s. By the then
2:29:01
Conservative government with brands
2:29:03
Taken together, these policies will enhance Britain's position
2:29:06
as a leading industrial nation, and enable the country to take
2:29:11
advantage of new opportunities that can promote growth and
2:29:16
wealth creation.
2:29:17
The speech delivered in the House of Lords by the king with
2:29:20
all the traditional pomp and pageantry includes many of the
2:29:23
policies championed in Labour's manifesto
2:29:26
economic growth measures to modernize the constitution will
2:29:30
be introduced, including House of Lords reform, to remove the
2:29:35
rights of hereditary
2:29:36
Adam Curry: Wait, let me get me here that again. This to modern
2:29:39
go back back. includes many of the policies championed in
2:29:43
Labour's manifesto make great
2:29:45
Unknown: measures to modernize the constitution will be
2:29:48
introduced, including House of Lords reform, to remove the
2:29:53
rights of hereditary peers to sit and vote in the laws.
2:29:58
Adam Curry: Wow, you can kick doubt that revising the
2:30:02
Constitution and I'm sure they have an amendment process don't
2:30:09
they? What is the constitution the Magna Carta?
2:30:12
John C Dvorak: Well no, it's just whatever it is. I don't
2:30:14
know what it is but they're going to change it in the House
2:30:16
of Lords guys are done. Yeah, basically gonna eliminate I
2:30:19
mean, the House of Lords has always been kind of like what
2:30:21
you know, they just kind of rubber stamp stuff but they're
2:30:24
fun like they're they're funny they're funny and they're but
2:30:27
they're not dangerous and needs to be like kicked out of office.
2:30:31
This is this is really extreme changes that people are I'm I
2:30:37
think is going to screw up the country. But I think it's all
2:30:39
part of the socialist agenda and that he's falling for because
2:30:43
he's all in on climate change and all these other ideas
2:30:46
useless. Clip three behind
2:30:48
Unknown: me here in Parliament King Charles set out so kiss Tom
2:30:52
has plans for governments in his King speech. It contains 40
2:30:56
pieces of proposed legislation. Some of the key bills announced
2:30:59
include a bill to toughen spending rules. This seeks to
2:31:03
strengthen the role of the economic watchdog the office for
2:31:06
budgetary responsibility to guarantee that major fiscal
2:31:09
decisions are properly scrutinized. There is a crime
2:31:12
and policing bill which will include a ban on zombie style
2:31:15
knives. It will also include a new type of antisocial behavior
2:31:19
order and penalties for shoplifting labourers landmark
2:31:23
bill to boost workers rights is referred to as a new deal for
2:31:27
working people. It includes a ban on zero hour contracts
2:31:30
giving workers rights immediately on starting a job
2:31:34
and they crack down on the practice of fire and rehire.
2:31:37
There's a strengthened version of the renter's reform bill.
2:31:40
This retains a ban on no fault evictions, and would bring in
2:31:43
measures to boost renters rights. Then onto planning
2:31:47
infrastructure and energy. There's a bill to reform
2:31:49
procedures to accelerate house building across the country. The
2:31:52
government is seeking to re nationalize nearly all passenger
2:31:56
rail services within five years a key priority for the Labour
2:31:59
governments and the bill to establish GB energy a state
2:32:03
owned company which will oversee investments in decarbonisation
2:32:06
projects such as offshore wind. Wow, how
2:32:09
Adam Curry: are they going to pay for this? Inflate the pound?
2:32:14
John C Dvorak: Well, that's an interesting point. I think you'd
2:32:16
think of that.
2:32:17
Adam Curry: Hey, could be cheap for us to go visit.
2:32:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's already Yeah, but every I mean,
2:32:23
the pound is worth less now. It's only a buck 20 I mean, I
2:32:26
used to go there was a buck 60 was always 16. Sure, but
2:32:31
everything's overpriced now, so it doesn't really still a gyp
2:32:35
now. So the last thing is the kicker, which is this one, and
2:32:38
this is classic, classic socialist idea that is
2:32:42
incorporated into these 40. Labor parts of the labor
2:32:47
manifesto. And then you define things that use a manifesto
2:32:50
term, which fits right in here we go. Moving on
2:32:53
Unknown: to AI another bill, which creates binding rules to
2:32:56
govern the development of artificial intelligence. This
2:32:59
legislation will enhance legal safeguards with a focus on
2:33:02
general purpose technology that underlines AI products such as
2:33:06
chess GPT. In regards to border security, this government plans
2:33:10
to strengthen Britain's borders by modernizing the asylum and
2:33:13
immigration system modernize in EU UK Border Security Command
2:33:17
with counter terror powers to tackle organized crime. Labour's
2:33:21
also resurrecting the previous government's proposed ban on
2:33:24
anyone born after 2009 Buying tobacco, and alongside devolving
2:33:30
powers to mess and councils labor seeking major
2:33:33
constitutional reform to reform of the House of Lords is on the
2:33:37
table, which would include removing hereditary peers.
2:33:41
There's also a hint at potentially lowering the voting
2:33:44
age to 16.
2:33:48
Adam Curry: Wow, they will. Every country gets the
2:33:51
government she deserves. That's what y'all voted for. Because
2:33:55
you hated the conservatives like, let them let those labor
2:33:58
guys in. They've been chomping at the bit. And yeah, they can
2:34:02
lower
2:34:02
John C Dvorak: the age to 16 that is always a winner of if
2:34:05
you're a socialist,
2:34:07
Adam Curry: they are going to throw you in irons. And what do
2:34:10
you think those those reforms? Oh, you won't be able to say
2:34:13
anything. They won't be able to say anything. So he can't
2:34:17
already can't
2:34:18
John C Dvorak: know they're already cracked down on social
2:34:20
media in the UK. Wow. It will get arrested for nothing.
2:34:25
Adam Curry: There's unconfirmed rumors coming in. The Chinese
2:34:28
president Zhi Jing ping had a stroke.
2:34:33
Unknown: Who I haven't heard that.
2:34:35
John C Dvorak: Today's news from out of China was that they got
2:34:38
rid of a number of people from the ministry.
2:34:41
Adam Curry: Now could be a palace coup going on. Who knows?
2:34:45
John C Dvorak: I want to play I just wanted this back to Biden
2:34:48
for just a second. Why not? I wanted to play these two clips
2:34:53
from his Lester Holt interview. Yeah, he
2:34:55
Adam Curry: was pretty angry.
2:34:56
John C Dvorak: He was late. He was mad and he kept saying look,
2:34:59
look Look, look, look. I mean, when you hear somebody saying
2:35:03
look as much as Biden does he this is like, this is defiant.
2:35:08
He's very defiant. But he's also half brain dead. And I only have
2:35:13
two clips. But the one the first clip is the good one. But
2:35:17
Unknown: let's talk about the conversation. This just started
2:35:19
and it's really about language, what we say out loud and the
2:35:23
consequences of those you called your opponent and existential
2:35:26
threat. On a call a week ago, you said it's time to put Trump
2:35:30
in the bullseye for some dispute about the context. But I think
2:35:34
you appreciate the crosshairs
2:35:36
that's all we focus on. Look, the truth of the matter is what
2:35:40
I guess I was talking about at the time was, there was very
2:35:43
little focus on Trump's agenda. The other term was Bullseye was
2:35:49
the mistake to use or I didn't, I didn't say crosshairs. I have
2:35:52
a bull's eye net focus on it. Focus on what he's doing. Focus
2:35:56
on one as far as policies focus on the number of lies. He told
2:36:01
the debate focus. I mean, there's there's a whole range of
2:36:04
things that look, I'm not the guy that said, I want to be a
2:36:07
dictator on day one.
2:36:09
Adam Curry: He didn't say that. He said it'd be a dictator under
2:36:13
for one day. Lies. Lies if
2:36:17
John C Dvorak: they did Biden is a liar. But this idea that, you
2:36:20
know, I said crossers? I mean, bulls. I mean, I mean, focus was
2:36:24
great. So we have part of the second part is not as
2:36:28
entertaining. But it's funny too. And I
2:36:30
Unknown: asked him about his struggle in the debate and the
2:36:33
calls from some Democrats, for him to step aside. Do you feel
2:36:36
like you've weathered the storm on this issue of whether you
2:36:39
should be on the ticket or not?
2:36:42
13 million people voted for me to be the nominee in the
2:36:45
Democratic Party. Okay.
2:36:48
In your last TV interview, you were asked if you had watched
2:36:51
the debate, and your answer was I don't think so. No. Have you
2:36:55
since seen it?
2:36:56
I've seen pieces of it. I've not watched the whole debate.
2:36:58
The President also responding to news of Donald Trump's new vice
2:37:02
presidential pick, when I asked you about just shortly before
2:37:05
you and I sat down, former President Trump named his vice
2:37:09
presidential pick JD Vance, what does that tell you? His
2:37:13
qualities? What does that tell you about former President
2:37:17
Trump's values and to him in terms of who he will surround
2:37:20
himself with in the next administration? Should he win?
2:37:24
It's not unusual, it's gonna surround himself with people who
2:37:26
agree completely with him. And wouldn't recognize supportive
2:37:31
even though if you go back and listen to the things that JD
2:37:33
Vance Said About Trump.
2:37:35
Adam Curry: You know, I think I have angrier clips from Joe from
2:37:38
that interview. If if you don't if you will
2:37:42
John C Dvorak: enjoy. That's fine. That's all I got as those
2:37:44
two because I thought they were meaningful, but yeah, well, he
2:37:46
was the clips I should have gotten. I didn't get but I just
2:37:50
couldn't get a good reason I didn't get them. These are the
2:37:54
clips from the NCAA speech. I have one play NCAA, but the
2:37:57
NAACP since I have where he's, he's good. He's screaming is
2:38:03
yelling is like gone nuts. I mean, he's goes crazy. He's one
2:38:06
of those crazy speeches where he's unhinge, but I found two
2:38:10
copies of it. And they were too echoey. I wasn't going to run
2:38:13
them to either. No, there were no
2:38:15
Adam Curry: there were no good. No good. Here's a very, very
2:38:17
short one boat that definitely my favorite. One of
2:38:21
Unknown: my best friends. When I was a lifeguard and projects. He
2:38:25
was his name is nickname is mouse.
2:38:30
Adam Curry: This is when he got in the tangled. He rumbled with
2:38:34
with corn pop he had his buddy there in the projects, which was
2:38:37
mouse. Does anybody take this guy serious?
2:38:43
Unknown: I got some short angry clips here. When I asked you
2:38:45
about just shortly before you and I sat down. Former
2:38:49
presidents rep named his Oh, no, you got that one. You had this
2:38:52
one. Mr. Trump has said he has given you a chance to redeem
2:38:55
yourself basically the idea of engaging in another debate.
2:38:59
We're gonna have another debate. Yeah, you're gonna have one of
2:39:00
September that's on the books. Would you be open to doing one
2:39:03
in the next few weeks?
2:39:05
I'm going to debate him when we agreed to debate him in
2:39:09
September.
2:39:11
But if if the opportunity came up to do and between now and
2:39:14
then is there is a sense of wanting to get back on their
2:39:17
horse. I'm on a horse.
2:39:21
I was on 22 major events for 1000s of people. A lot of noise
2:39:26
and crowds. A lot happening. I'm on the horse. What I'm doing is
2:39:31
going out and demonstrating to an American people that I have
2:39:34
commanded all my faculties that I don't need notes. I don't need
2:39:39
telephone. I can go out.
2:39:42
Adam Curry: I don't need calibre. Oh,
2:39:43
Unknown: and I stood there when when NATO isn't I sit there for
2:39:47
an hour and answer questions.
2:39:51
If you were to have continued
2:39:53
Adam Curry: poor follow up from Lester Holt. Yeah, that's when
2:39:56
you identified vice president Kamala Harris as press Isn't
2:40:00
Trump and President Solinsky as President Putin? Is that what
2:40:03
you're talking about? Mr. President? No.
2:40:07
John C Dvorak: Hold is a soft ball.
2:40:09
Adam Curry: He's a soft baller issues.
2:40:12
Unknown: If you were to have continued to run and be
2:40:15
officially nominated, what happens if you have another
2:40:18
episode like we saw during the episode? What happened? What
2:40:24
happened? What happens if you have performance on that level?
2:40:31
I don't plan for us.
2:40:35
President, I know he's good to talk to you. Good to see you.
2:40:37
Thank you for making some time for us sometimes
2:40:39
come and talk to him about what we should be talking about. All
2:40:41
right. Okay. The issues.
2:40:45
John C Dvorak: With this, he talked about the issues. What is
2:40:48
that is bullcrap. Oh, I hope he stays in. Yeah,
2:40:54
Adam Curry: well, he's quitting tonight. What he's quitting
2:40:57
tonight. It's over tonight. Tonight. Oh,
2:40:59
John C Dvorak: well, this is yeah. microdots. No.
2:41:04
Adam Curry: It's quantum dots. Okay.
2:41:07
John C Dvorak: Quantum dots is funnier quantum dots.
2:41:11
Adam Curry: The Olympics are starting soon in Paris. I for
2:41:13
one, I have a Olympic fever. I'm very excited. Although I always
2:41:17
find it. Kind of. I gotta admit, I don't like that. We always
2:41:22
send the Dream Team for basketball. And I was like, oh,
2:41:26
Lebron James. Okay. Well, at least we can win in one thing.
2:41:31
John C Dvorak: Always it is. I think it's a version of cheating
2:41:34
years ago, seen before the original dream team when they
2:41:37
couldn't you couldn't be pro. You couldn't be a pro and they
2:41:41
so they had these college kids and we'd win and we wouldn't
2:41:43
win. And we knew we knew. And somebody got sick of the fact
2:41:46
that other countries are beating our college kids. And we said,
2:41:50
okay, these guys as far as we're concerned, they're bringing in
2:41:53
pros. We're bringing in pros. Yeah. Oh can make up your mind.
2:41:57
Adam Curry: But I think who's that that freak the guy who's
2:41:59
seven foot nine that guy?
2:42:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I always come. He's open. Yamaha I think
2:42:04
is his name.
2:42:06
Adam Curry: I always call him a Bama but he'll play for his own
2:42:08
country.
2:42:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well a lot of guys do. In fact, one of the
2:42:13
best players in the league is playing for Serbia.
2:42:16
Adam Curry: Right That guy just what's his name?
2:42:19
John C Dvorak: It's yeah, I should have the name of top my
2:42:24
head being a sports ball fan. But yes, you are
2:42:26
Adam Curry: a fan. Anyway.
2:42:30
John C Dvorak: The part of the of the deal was no yo KOVITCH
2:42:33
mediocre the Joker. Part of
2:42:35
Adam Curry: the deals would have flying taxis. Well, we know
2:42:37
that's out the flying taxis not happening. Surprise surprise.
2:42:41
Which means we won't have people dying in these death traps.
2:42:45
Trust me, trust me. And they're supposed to have all kinds of
2:42:50
competitions in the sand.
2:42:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a classic. This is a good story,
2:42:55
but the sand
2:42:56
Adam Curry: is is basically full of poop. And poopy. So to to
2:43:03
prove to prove that it's not poopy. The mayor took a took a
2:43:08
swan dive into the sin.
2:43:12
Unknown: It's the dive into the sin river that Paris's mayor has
2:43:15
been dreaming about dreaming
2:43:17
show the water is clean.
2:43:19
It's amazing. We work a lot and very hard for that. Very lucky
2:43:26
and happy day.
2:43:28
Happy because the sin will be the centerpiece of the Paris
2:43:31
Olympics. In less than two weeks from now. Opening ceremonies
2:43:35
will be hosted on the river for the first time. But there had
2:43:39
been concerns about athletes competing in the water. The
2:43:42
river so polluted swimming in the sin was banned for more than
2:43:46
a century, with only a third good reason. Determined to make
2:43:50
it safe again for the Olympics. cleanup efforts began over nine
2:43:54
years ago, costing one and a half billion dollars. It
2:43:58
included a giant underground water storage basin, renovating
2:44:02
sewer lines and treatment plants. Even with all that water
2:44:06
quality tests last month indicated more than needed to be
2:44:09
done. We did it we did it we do visual say the latest water
2:44:14
quality tests show welcomed improvements and Paris is ready
2:44:18
to let the games begin.
2:44:20
Adam Curry: Why did they have to do sewage changes? Were they
2:44:23
dumping the poop in the sand?
2:44:26
John C Dvorak: Well the coliform cast were always failing now
2:44:29
there's a it's possible that they they could possibly fix it
2:44:33
I went to him I was hanging out hanging out
2:44:38
Adam Curry: I was hanging out in
2:44:40
John C Dvorak: in Paris in Paris with a guy
2:44:43
Adam Curry: with a croissant
2:44:45
John C Dvorak: he said I asked him I said you know what did
2:44:47
this what do you what would you define definitive French as
2:44:50
being really good at and I was thinking you know growing
2:44:54
peaches wine there's all these different things you drink a
2:44:57
basis crap he says the number one thing that French are great
2:45:00
that is public works rail designs sewage system to the
2:45:05
sewers of France all the rest of them and did they do that better
2:45:08
than anybody else in the world and I've noticed this the first
2:45:10
time I was over there the roads don't have potholes all over the
2:45:15
place there's
2:45:16
Adam Curry: that move to Paris than your freak
2:45:19
John C Dvorak: so the so I can I can see them possibly being able
2:45:24
with their public works kind of mentality being really good at
2:45:29
it maybe cleaning up the sand but that's a big project. I
2:45:33
don't know that I think there's going to be a lot of pinkeye
2:45:36
let's put it that way.
2:45:40
Adam Curry: From there we move to what we actually we had the
2:45:44
King's speech the queen is under attack the coal wait
2:45:47
John C Dvorak: before I just said to stay with the Olympics.
2:45:49
I do have a clip. Oh, yeah, I'm
2:45:51
Adam Curry: gonna Olympics clip. Okay.
2:45:53
John C Dvorak: I have an Olympus clip that I think is funny.
2:45:56
Adam Curry: You see All right, here we go.
2:45:58
Unknown: Paris Olympics will provide recycled cardboard beds
2:46:01
for athletes. The manufacturer of the beds said they are so
2:46:05
strong, that's five or six people can jump on them. The
2:46:08
mattresses of the beds can be customized to enhance sleep
2:46:11
quality. To
2:46:13
Adam Curry: the to the floor revealed the recyclable
2:46:15
cardboard beds that will be helping athletes catch up on
2:46:18
their beauty sleep during the Summer Games. The beds were
2:46:21
designed by airwave a Japanese company. Its CEO said cardboard
2:46:27
beds were initially created in 2021 for the Tokyo Olympic
2:46:31
Games. He said the beds for Paris Olympics were even
2:46:34
stronger. Board beds didn't they have that? A couple of years
2:46:41
back I remember the
2:46:43
John C Dvorak: previous Olympics but I didn't know that. And it's
2:46:46
like is that the best you can do? Sleep well on a futon I
2:46:51
Adam Curry: know the cardboard beds is my understanding is so
2:46:54
that it discourages sex
2:46:59
John C Dvorak: I never heard that part of it. Yeah,
2:47:00
Adam Curry: I think that's I really did you know that there
2:47:02
was a 4chan poll about us.
2:47:06
Unknown: About Us Yeah.
2:47:08
Adam Curry: No agenda guys yay or nay?
2:47:11
John C Dvorak: We get probably got 4chan we've probably got I
2:47:14
don't know what we get from I know Reddit would give us a day.
2:47:17
Well
2:47:17
Adam Curry: listen to this worth listening to if you have seven
2:47:20
hours a week to kill. I remember listening to Jhansi Dvorak for
2:47:24
years related to tech. I did not realize he was involved in
2:47:27
politics. Yeah, they're pretty good. Although divorce is
2:47:32
increasingly naive for someone as old as he is who has seen as
2:47:35
much as he has. He's always giving MFRs the benefit of the
2:47:38
doubt when it's really really not warranted. He also read
2:47:41
slash Paul, so that's great. I guess you're in a fourth
2:47:44
chapter. Then. Adam is a retard. Jhansi Dvorak is the goat. It's
2:47:55
a shame that it's a shame that tranny made that god awful
2:47:59
keyboard layout and made it his last name. Wow, 4chan.
2:48:05
John C Dvorak: real accurate. They're
2:48:06
Adam Curry: fantastic. Anyway, back to the Queen the queen is
2:48:09
under
2:48:10
Unknown: attack. It was five years ago that Ursula von der
2:48:12
Leyen squeaked her way into the chair as head of the European
2:48:15
Commission by just a handful of votes. Her attempt to get
2:48:18
reelected for a second term is likely to be just as close. Two
2:48:22
weeks ago EU leaders nominated von der Leyen despite and
2:48:24
occasionally controversial stint in charge of the bloc's
2:48:27
executive branch,
2:48:28
I would plain and simply like to express my gratitude to the
2:48:32
leaders who endorsed my nomination.
2:48:35
On key dissenting voice, though is Italy's Prime Minister
2:48:38
Giorgio Maloney
2:48:40
the leadership proposal from the conservative socialist and
2:48:43
liberal parties was wrong, partly because there was no
2:48:46
discussion considered regarding the mandate for these leadership
2:48:50
nominees. In the wake of European elections, where
2:48:53
citizens clearly asked for a new direction for the EU.
2:48:58
Do Maloney is not the only person unhappy with von der
2:49:00
Leyen and head of Thursday's ballot on whether to confirm her
2:49:02
for another five years in charge talk has grown about objections
2:49:06
and opposition to her leadership of the commission. A vital issue
2:49:09
for some is the question of transparency that was kept on
2:49:12
Wednesday ahead of the boat by an EU court ruling which
2:49:15
criticized the Commission's handling of COVID-19 contracts.
2:49:18
More significant, however, are questions about Ukraine MEPs on
2:49:22
Wednesday, in fact, a motion reaffirming support for Kyiv at
2:49:26
a time when Europe appears increasingly divided about the
2:49:29
war with Russia. That comes less than three weeks after EU
2:49:32
leaders signed a new security deal with Ukraine. The key
2:49:35
player is Hungary, which currently holds the EU's
2:49:38
rotating presidency. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has
2:49:41
talked about using the position for something he calls peace
2:49:44
missions. Those include meetings with Ukrainian war critics, like
2:49:48
China's President Xi Jinping, Donald Trump, and a visit to
2:49:51
Moscow.
2:49:52
Adam Curry: And what's the over under Do you think she'll she'll
2:49:55
stay in? Are they going
2:49:56
John C Dvorak: according to this morning? She's back. Oh, really?
2:50:00
Yeah, she's in. Ah,
2:50:02
Adam Curry: well, I'm happy because we need her for the
2:50:04
show. She's good for the show. She's
2:50:06
John C Dvorak: good for the show.
2:50:07
Adam Curry: And my last clip before we will person she is Oh
2:50:10
no, she's the worst. She's never been elected by the public to
2:50:13
anything. She was a failed finance minister for Germany.
2:50:16
People discarded her. They didn't like her and she totally,
2:50:20
totally was all in on the backroom deals with Pfizer.
2:50:25
Yeah, and everyone knows her stage. Everyone must be a lot
2:50:29
more Pfizer stooges for her to stay in. Yeah, good tribe.
2:50:34
Maloney are
2:50:35
John C Dvorak: voices amazing.
2:50:37
Adam Curry: I'm Georgia Maloney. Texas news, which is also it's
2:50:43
actually it's a it's no agenda news. It's Texas and California
2:50:47
living
2:50:47
Unknown: in capital X and Texas billionaire mogul Elon Musk
2:50:51
shared on his social media site X, formerly known as Twitter
2:50:55
that he's had it but California. He plans to move its
2:50:59
headquarters in that of SpaceX to the Lone Star State. Musk
2:51:03
explained he decided to make the move after California's governor
2:51:06
signed into law, a pro LGBTQ plus bill. This
2:51:10
is the final straw because of this law and the many others
2:51:13
that preceded it attacking both families and companies. SpaceX
2:51:17
will now move its headquarters from Hawthorne, California, to
2:51:20
Starbase, Texas and x's headquarters will move to Austin
2:51:24
have had enough of dodging gangs of violent drug addicts just to
2:51:27
get in and out of the building.
2:51:30
From The California law that asks AI or give schools more
2:51:33
leeway in regard to informing parents of a child's gender
2:51:37
choices. It forbids schools from requiring teachers to tell the
2:51:40
parents of any changes. Elon Musk has long voiced
2:51:44
inflammatory statements against trans people. And he hasn't
2:51:48
trans daughter in court documents that she no longer has
2:51:51
a relationship with him.
2:51:53
Adam Curry: I think Austin should block this. They don't
2:51:57
want it we don't want that trash that x trash.
2:52:01
John C Dvorak: Well, he this is he has to do this stuff publicly
2:52:04
because the to get out of California to because he's gonna
2:52:07
get some billions of dollars in payment. He has to get out of
2:52:12
California, very publicly, and it can't have any connections to
2:52:16
like, the Twitter offices or anything because California goes
2:52:21
after you have an exit tax, right? No, not just extra tax a
2:52:26
claim that you're if you spend more than so many hours in
2:52:29
California a year, you're considered a California citizen.
2:52:33
And so the only way to really extract your so you have to get
2:52:36
everything out. You got to make it very public. And then you
2:52:38
have to, then they're still gonna go after you. They're very
2:52:43
into going after people who leave the states.
2:52:46
Adam Curry: Wow, that's like leaving the Manson family is
2:52:48
John C Dvorak: exactly the same as Democrats. I said this, you
2:52:51
know, a number of times I mentioned it, which the Democrat
2:52:55
party which runs California is more like a cult than it is like
2:53:01
a party political party. I mean, so when you quit the cult,
2:53:05
Adam Curry: it's hard is that while you're still there, you're
2:53:07
afraid of the cult? No,
2:53:09
John C Dvorak: no, I've divorced myself from the cult. In
2:53:14
1979 1980, and it took this long to be accepted as some outsider.
2:53:20
I'm not in the call. I don't. Nobody cares. But I'm telling
2:53:23
you for at least a decade, I was hounded for not being a
2:53:26
Democrat. I'm
2:53:28
Unknown: going to show my school but donate to no agenda. Imagine
2:53:31
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
2:53:41
Adam Curry: We want to thank everybody who came in $50 and
2:53:43
above and the value for value proposition that we bring to you
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whatever you think the show is worth to you. If you enjoyed if
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you're still listening. You probably got some value out of
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it. So consider us. That would be very helpful. John is going
2:54:03
to take us through the 50s. And
2:54:05
John C Dvorak: we do have a tip after this to stick around us.
2:54:08
We do have a tip and by the way, I'm unaffiliated. Yes,
2:54:12
politically, yes. Alex Thomas in Northcote Victoria, Australia.
2:54:16
167 starts us off. And then Jake, from Blissfield, Michigan,
2:54:21
one 4008 And he wants a deed douching got it.
2:54:28
Unknown: D deuced.
2:54:30
John C Dvorak: And he condemns Colin not for being a douchebag
2:54:33
but for saying claiming that he got him to listen to the show
2:54:35
and he doesn't believe it. Yeah. Eric Anderson and Henry, South
2:54:38
Dakota. One, one 1.11. He has a note, and since he's going to be
2:54:43
a knight, I think might want to open that note and read it. Yes,
2:54:47
Adam Curry: I happen to have it here. crackpot and Buzzkill. In
2:54:51
celebration of getting my ham license. I figured I would
2:54:54
complete my knighthood. I tested and passed my tech and general
2:54:58
and I'm really enjoying it. So For check me out on V var C var
2:55:05
AC. I'm on digital mode baby beaconing every 15 minutes
2:55:09
please note me, Sir idiot of the rural intelligencia I want a
2:55:14
geisha and a bucket of fried chicken at the round table. It's
2:55:16
yummy. Thanks for keeping me sane for the years it took me to
2:55:19
get here. I think I started listening somewhere in the one
2:55:22
hundreds long timer. No agenda has helped me look at world
2:55:25
events with with the skepticism it deserves 73 says the soon to
2:55:30
be sir idiot. 70 threes from kilo five Alpha Charlie Charlie,
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Thanks, brother. Diane
2:55:35
John C Dvorak: shawanna Back in johnsburg, Illinois 105 35 dolet
2:55:41
Xang doesn't have probably Shane Goosen in Santa Clara. 100 ITM I
2:55:50
just wanted to get into this historic episode, getting Lucas
2:55:54
Williams in Roswell. There you go. New Mexico $100 Sean Pilla
2:55:59
Chow ski in Portage reportage, Wisconsin 100. He says last
2:56:06
week's show is worth 100. So I'm giving you 100 Thank you. Last
2:56:09
week's show you show us a good show. The last show was a show
2:56:12
it was good. Ash, Texas 100. Steven C in Bedford,
2:56:16
Massachusetts. 92. And he has this thing about 92 is in honor
2:56:22
of Donald J. Trump, who would be our 45th plus 47th. President
2:56:27
and our first Bitcoin presidency. You see, that's
2:56:30
actually $92 donation in honor of Trump. It's not a bad one.
2:56:35
It's good number. I didn't want to do anything that's that.
2:56:39
Nobody
2:56:39
Adam Curry: will take it.
2:56:40
John C Dvorak: Thank you, Steven C. 45. plus 47 is 92. Kevin
2:56:44
McLaughlin, there he is in North Carolina and Concord to be
2:56:47
exact. He's the Archduke of Luna and he gives 808 which is a boob
2:56:51
donation Travis more in Gibsonville North Carolina 808
2:56:56
And she's got a birthday call it for his wife Anna
2:57:00
Adam Curry: then and and I think she wants a let me see if she
2:57:04
wants a biscuit. So we'll give her a biscuit for a birthday.
2:57:06
They
2:57:07
Unknown: always give me a biscuit on my birthday,
2:57:09
you Sir Kevin O'Brien
2:57:11
John C Dvorak: in Chicago. 606 small boobs. Care Chad Hewitt in
2:57:16
Folsom, California also 606 Jeff hunt at 510 Double nickels on
2:57:23
the diamond. He's got a little he's got a knighting coming up.
2:57:25
You want to read this
2:57:26
Adam Curry: and I believe after 15 years he says this brings me
2:57:29
to knighthood. Love the show and I need some graduate MBA karma
2:57:32
dealer's choice. I can use anything I can get. We'll do
2:57:35
that at the end for you. Regarding the MBA, my ethics
2:57:38
class was 100% focused on UN Sustainable Development Goals,
2:57:43
no room for dissent, and what little I put up against
2:57:46
globalism questions about global warming or something simple like
2:57:49
maybe we shouldn't treat science like religion. I was shut down
2:57:53
the state despite being the only one with any understanding of
2:57:57
science. For context. This is a Jesuit Catholic school, which
2:58:00
should be questioning everything dogmatic at least my
2:58:04
understanding. All right, Jeff, you will be naive. That's
2:58:07
terrible. That is terrible. That's
2:58:09
John C Dvorak: James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
2:58:12
5510. Dean Roker 5510 Riley Murdoch in Ketchikan, Alaska.
2:58:18
5272 Kip Hoffman in Crestview, Florida 5150. Michael Thompson a
2:58:27
new brown fells Texas 50 Oh, these are all $50 donors were
2:58:31
there already is a very short list. Michael Thompson Chris
2:58:36
Lewinsky and Sherwood Park, Alberta Michael parrot in Salem
2:58:40
Oregon Philip blue in Louisville, Kentucky, John Ford
2:58:43
and McKinney Texas. Say anything here's you need anything No.
2:58:49
Peter odo in orig New York, Cory Bennett in Denver, Colorado Luke
2:58:56
Olson in Alexandria, Virginia, gadget free 10 in Western
2:59:00
Springs, Illinois. Scott lavender, sir Scott and
2:59:04
Montgomery, Texas. Andrew Alexander and Fredericksburg you
2:59:09
go you're loaded up here. It's about time for surgery, Fred in
2:59:14
FY F Berg. Sorry, John and Blaine, Minnesota. He served on
2:59:20
the Dunkirk, mudflats, Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington
2:59:26
surgery wing and Roth in Saugus, California and last on our
2:59:31
shortlist. Barron Allen being in Beaverton, Oregon, sending a
2:59:38
nice meme for me to use. Thank you, Alan.
2:59:40
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you all very much for your support under
2:59:42
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people this week John Lord bass player for Deep Purple who I
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just heard that Lou Dobbs apparently just died. Lou Dobbs
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Yeah, that's I this is unconfirmed is unconfirmed, but
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it's what I just I knew I knew
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John C Dvorak: him. Yeah, I have a silicon spin a couple of times
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when he was running that's really site site what science
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site he had a site with after he got fired the first time he
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started some rocket science site is a website that was rockets
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and launches and dead was pretty good. So
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Adam Curry: you know who else just died Bob Newhart?
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John C Dvorak: Oh, well, that's a shame.
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Adam Curry: Did you know him? No, I
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John C Dvorak: never met Bob knew we're out living everybody.
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I did get to see Bob Newhart when he first showed up as a
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stand up. Oh, that must have been great. Oh, he was
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unbelievably funny, because he was the first super dry comic
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that was just killing it. It's an IED. There's two best selling
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ASA one who got popularized a cut comedy album above all
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others, right?
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Adam Curry: It's a bad day for Bob's basically it's not a good
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day for Bob's here's the karma that was requested.
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Unknown: You've got karma
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There we go. You get all bladed out. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: I have a blade for you. Here you go. Oh, nice.
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welcome to the roundtable no one
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no agenda meet up it connects you with other people at which
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immediately gives you protection connection is protection. It is
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a great addendum or denim is a good piece I think good way to
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put it to your no agenda show because you may be in the troll
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room hanging out but you can actually meet these people. And
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we've had people meet and get married. We've had meet people
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meet and start businesses. You've had people meet and just
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hang out together and and drink and have fun and talk about
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stuff. Never has there been a fight. Never has there been any
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angry words that I have ever heard of. In fact, here's an
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example of a great meetup report from Fort Wayne to mac and
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cheese meet up
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Unknown: Adam and John. This is Shannon in Fort Wayne where law
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and Nat pops and low on Biden voters. But we're very high in
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mac and cheese. Hi, I'm
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Shelly from Fort Wayne.
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Thank you for your courage. Hey, Jared, thank
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you for Shelley's courage in the morning.
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I met some wonderful people
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today and it wasn't paid to say that. Hey Sir, PBR streaking is
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Morning John and Adam. Here we are in Fort Wayne Eaton the mac
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and cheese Dame
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Trinity having a great time at JK O'Donnell's in the morning,
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Mike with the Fort Wayne crew in the morning so
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Adam Curry: barren spot the Mighty is it trolling around in
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the troll room says don't expect to meet you don't expect to meet
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any chicks at the meet up. I just heard a Couple right there.
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It's not true blatant lie. In fact, once you give it a shot if
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you're in Charlotte, North Carolina tonight seven o'clock
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Ed's tavern gotta meet up there Charlotte's thirsty Third
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John C Dvorak: Thursday. Women that go to these meetups.
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Adam Curry: Barentsburg the mighty me hi I'm spot the mighty
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All right. Yeah, I'm sure that chicks run away from you but the
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mighty Saturday the Chicago River rendezvous. That's where
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you can meet chicks. One o'clock at the island party hut in
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Chicago, Illinois. Hey, Darren, you should go. Dr. Ruth's last
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call Miller's Ale House Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey on
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Saturday. That should be a good one to go to pour one out for
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Dr. Ruth, Michigan local one central meets at two o'clock on
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Saturday at Horrocks Farm Market beer garden in Lansing,
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Michigan. The shrunken amygdala support group meets on Saturday
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at two o'clock at task group for him in Cincinnati, Ohio. The
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Sonoma Wine Oh count a country meet up four o'clock at iron and
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vine in Santa Rosa, California. The Insane Diego monthly meet up
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as always the third Saturday, the roundtable pizza and Rancho
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Rancho Bernardo San Diego and the Fort Worth a smoke filled
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back room. Join that happy crowd at four o'clock on Saturday at
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the 1849 cigar shop in Fort Worth, Texas. And the margarita
3:06:23
made up on Sunday, July 21. Lee Norris Alton, Palm Beach Gardens
3:06:28
Florida and also on Sunday, the East Central Illinois meet up
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three o'clock at triptych brewing in Savoy Illinois.
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That's your no agenda lists. There's many more. We've got a
3:06:39
lot internationally as well. And if you're out there somewhere in
3:06:42
the sticks and if you're an Oregon, why, and you're
3:06:45
listening. Stop listening to goats in the woods. I want you
3:06:51
to do a little meet up and do a meet up report. We'd love to
3:06:53
hear from you guys in in Oregon. Why? Please it would be a lot of
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fun. No agenda meetups.com If you can't find one there you
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start one yourself. It's easy.
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Unknown: Day days.
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Adam Curry: Is like a body it's like a pot. It always is like a
3:07:25
party. Got another Austin meetup coming up soon. I think we
3:07:28
should probably go. And one's going to be organizing Bernie.
3:07:33
Bernie Texas Cohen Ernie. Yeah, yeah, that's Mitch. Mitch THE
3:07:38
MAVERICK the periodontist. He's going to start one. He's going
3:07:41
to Yeah. He's got dough, so it'll be cool.
3:07:46
Unknown: He'll set it up, right.
3:07:48
Adam Curry: You're getting I suppose.
3:07:51
John C Dvorak: You know, I failed again.
3:07:55
Adam Curry: For Luckily, I have to hopefully one of them is
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useful.
3:07:59
John C Dvorak: You're always one useful.
3:08:01
Unknown: Maybe it's the ghost of corncob.
3:08:05
Adam Curry: I don't like it either.
3:08:06
John C Dvorak: It's usable, but it's blurry. Yeah.
3:08:09
Adam Curry: This is the one you want. Are
3:08:10
Unknown: you saying it's a false flag?
3:08:14
John C Dvorak: Only because your voice
3:08:17
Adam Curry: is the best. Come on. We all know it's good. Show
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this is what we do every single show.
3:08:27
Unknown: JC That's
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Adam Curry: right, everybody. It is a tip from John C. Dvorak as
3:08:33
we lead you into your weekend. Well, almost weekend. John, what
3:08:39
kind of tip do you have for us today,
3:08:41
John C Dvorak: I have a food tip, a food tip.
3:08:43
Adam Curry: We love our food.
3:08:45
John C Dvorak: And the only reason I'm going to bring this
3:08:46
tip up is because every time I go to the store that is the
3:08:48
situation that occurs and I always have to I have actually
3:08:51
discussed this with shop fellow shoppers at the grocery store
3:08:54
and ocean whose and very few people seem to know this simple
3:08:58
fact. Which is that pineapples are not bananas and they don't
3:09:04
ripen after they're picked. They stay frozen in time as to the
3:09:09
ripeness when you buy a pineapple, and for some reason,
3:09:13
almost nobody knows this. So how do you always think of
3:09:16
everything is a banana or even all kinds of things ripe and
3:09:20
after you're picking but not pineapples. So pineapples you
3:09:23
want to
3:09:24
Adam Curry: if you go if you go before me, that'll that's that's
3:09:28
going to be I'm going to put that in my eulogy John taught me
3:09:32
people think everything's a banana. And that's just not true
3:09:35
people.
3:09:36
John C Dvorak: So pie when you buy a pineapple, you want to get
3:09:41
one that is gold colored not green, but gold colored because
3:09:45
it is by a green when this all greenish is not going to go
3:09:49
anywhere. It's going to be sour and kind of like not as sweet as
3:09:52
it should be. So the things should be solid gold colored.
3:09:56
You don't find me very often but when you do, they stand out like
3:09:59
a sore thumb. And that's the one you buy a gold pineapple. And
3:10:02
when you cut one of those babies open, they're super sweet. The
3:10:06
core is edible. It's unbelievable how good that
3:10:08
pineapple is when it's ripe, but it will not ripen.
3:10:14
Unknown: Good news, it's good advice. John
3:10:18
says
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Adam Curry: everybody is going to be valuable tip of the day. I
3:10:26
hit my own tip here, tips too long. And that will conclude our
3:10:31
broadcast day live from Northern Silicon Valley and the Texas
3:10:37
Hill Country. Fred. No calls here. No calls here. Before we
3:10:45
leave, though, we do have a couple of end of show mixes
3:10:48
we're getting short on people doing these kinds of end of show
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mixes. The of the song, the song variety, which we do love so
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much. It takes a lot of effort. Nostradamus did that for us and
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also click custodian Neal Jones. These are evergreen, so we'd
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love rolling them out for you. And recipe oh, what we have
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coming up next. The MMO millennial media offensive on
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the no agenda stream or if you're listening on one of those
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modern podcast apps coming to you from the heart of that Texas
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Hill Country and Fred de Ville reached number six in the
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morning everybody I'm Adam curry.
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John C Dvorak: If another Silicon Valley, where it's sunny
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today I'm John C. Dvorak
3:11:29
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday with another media
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deconstruction just for you read all about it on 4chan. Until
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then adios mofos a hui Hui, and such
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Unknown: this guy this guy no reason this guy no
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lies with the ads
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loud
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a seat
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know me this guy
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faces were rock
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scream at the sky sanctuary
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socialist leaders stopping
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by a red rock
3:13:53
Trump is telling us what
3:13:59
Trump means to throw people in jail who
3:14:02
disagree with them
3:14:08
listen to what he says because he's telling us what he will do
3:14:17
he says let's remove all of that this is what I'm about. This is
3:14:21
what I'm about this
3:14:24
will execute through whatever Geez Oh wow.
3:14:35
Take him at his word.
3:14:41
predilection predilection for? Revenge
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past
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Trump is telling
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us what be
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asked to be eliminated
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MoPhO boruch.org/n
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Are you saying it's a false flag?
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