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July 25th, 2024 • 3h 13m

1680: Seismic Sundae

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John C Dvorak: violation of the Logan Act.
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Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Devora.
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Adam Curry: Thursday, July 25 2020. For the show award
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winning nation media assassination episode 1680. This
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Unknown: is no agenda, unburdened
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Adam Curry: by what has been and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six.
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Morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we realize
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that four ways to pronounce Camela and they're all racist.
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And Jhansi. Dvorak was kill
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Adam Curry: you Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's so boring.
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But racism is back.
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John C Dvorak: That's about time. Well, we
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Adam Curry: racism has been been gone for far too long. I agree.
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I did a show with Moe yesterday.
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John C Dvorak: And with show number was that
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Adam Curry: 99? Oh, yeah, that's almost the last one.
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John C Dvorak: Right? Yeah, we'll see.
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Adam Curry: What does that even me?
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John C Dvorak: Well, you guys brought, you know, most you
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know, it has this rationale for wanting to quit because he's
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actually worked works for a living. Yeah. He put his number
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100. But I just don't. I doubt it. Okay. Oh, this Tiki
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boastfully shit.
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Adam Curry: Thanks. Well, he said, he said it's all gonna be
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racism. This is this is it? I mean, it's it wasn't that hard
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to predict. But he said that he took it one step further.
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Actually. He says he knows who the VP pick is going to be.
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Well, first, let me let me just make it
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John C Dvorak: really. Oh, well, I'm interested in this now.
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Because I wrote a whole at substack on it. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: What did you and I saw it come through. It's in my
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reading stack. I've not read it yet. Well,
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John C Dvorak: you should have read it. I'm horrible. Nothing
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else is for the unbelievable art that I got from Darren O'Neal.
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Huh?
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Adam Curry: This is a divorce. act.substack.com. Yeah. The
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OASAS.
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John C Dvorak: Right, you can actually quickly look
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Adam Curry: at the art. I'm gonna take Oh, yeah, that's some
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good AI art right there.
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John C Dvorak: It's really good AI art.
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Adam Curry: It's just enjoy it while it lasts. We'll talk about
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it later.
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John C Dvorak: I have some AI clips to Yeah, good. So my
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thinking was my thing is that she should pick Shapiro from
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Pennsylvania so she can get that state. Well, but he's Jewish.
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Adam Curry: This is what most said. He says too much Jew.
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She's already married to a Jew. There'll be too much Jewish Not
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gonna happen.
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John C Dvorak: I agree with that. I think
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Adam Curry: you No, no, no, no, no, I he came up with a very
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surprising pick, which I had not thought about. But then I looked
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at the guy. I'm like, Yeah, also the denials. Here it is. Okay,
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who here it is. So give it a more, as you well know, your
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name is been mentioned among many as a possible running mate
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for vice president Harris. Have you heard from her campaign? And
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even if not, would you be interested? So this is Westmore,
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the governor of Maryland? Who has the look he's got. He's a
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Rhodes Scholar. I mean, come on. And so the question is quite
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clear. MSNBC morning, Joe. How are you? Are you going to do it?
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Unknown: You know, I'm very I'm very flattered that, that the
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calls and encouragement continue to come in. And I think people
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are paying attention to what's happening here in Maryland. You
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know, if you look at just in our time in office, we've gone from
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being 43rd in the country and unemployment to now having
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amongst the lowest unemployment rates in the entire country were
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2.8%. Right now, if you look at where we are, in terms of public
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safety, Maryland has had amongst the steepest drops in homicides
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and violent crime in the entire country during that same period.
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So I'm really thankful and and, and humbled that people are
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paying attention what's happening here in Maryland, I
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will do anything to make sure that Vice President Harris
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becomes the next president of the United States. I think it's
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that important to our state. I think it's that important to our
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country. I think it's
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John C Dvorak: no, no democracy.
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Unknown: No, I am in love with my job. And I'm in love with the
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people of my state. And I'm very happy to continue serving as the
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governor of the state of Maryland.
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Adam Curry: That's what you always say. You always say no,
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I'm happy with my job. I'm happy with my job until you get paid.
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I'm like And I want to be vice president. He's got everything.
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He's got arms, you know, bigger than my thighs. He's got a you
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know, a clean slick look. I think Moe is onto something here
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and he says that the only thing the Democrat party can do is go
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full on racism and you can only do that if you have an all black
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ticket. I don't think it'll work but that seems that seems what
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they want to do. That's
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John C Dvorak: not going to happen. I Democrats are
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practical is that that point, and I don't even think she's
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going to pick the guy.
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Adam Curry: I like the idea. I like it. Let me just give you a
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few more. A few more points here. Because obviously, it's to
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recapture the black vote, particularly the black men, that
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seems to be the problem. Let's go to tick tock for a second.
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Here's will,
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Unknown: if the Democratic Party wants the black male vote. I'm
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not too sure they get it with Kamala Harris, but I know what
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she's going to do. She's going to do exactly what the
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Republicans just did in Milwaukee, without without
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sister Amber Rose, and with Hulk Hogan. Wait till you see the
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Negro pins are going to speak at the Democratic Negro peons is a
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new word for me and I like it national convention is going to
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be a complete circus. I'm telling you what they're going
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to do. I believe they are going to grab the rappers and they're
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going to grab the athletes, they're going to find someone
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extremely popular within the hip hop industry, and the
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entertainment world to speak for Kamala Harris, or whomsoever the
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Democratic Party convention nominates. I promise you,
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because they have to outdo Hulk Hogan, and they have to outdo
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Amber Rose Dan, of
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Adam Curry: course, they're already reaching back to the
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High Priestess of all things Beelzebub.
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Unknown: You might hear that Beyonce song a lot over the next
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few months that 32 time Grammy winner has given vice president
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Harris permission to use freedom. Throughout her run for
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the White House. Beyonce who is known for maintaining very
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strict guidelines clearance guidelines around
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Adam Curry: music, gave quick approval to the Harris campaign
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just hours before she walked out to the song yesterday. Freedom
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debuted on Beyonce 2016 album, lemonade, and then here's Ben
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Jones, who was ramping it all up.
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Unknown: You start insulting black women. You hear that job?
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You're gonna see something you haven't seen before. Black men
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are not going to put up with that. I was on a phone call with
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20,000 Black men.
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Adam Curry: Were at some party line van.
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Unknown: The word protect came
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Adam Curry: up about 1000 20,000 blank.
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Unknown: Protect this sister, protect the sister. We're going
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to protect her. Protect her you're about to see something
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you haven't seen before. Your you look people messed around
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with Hillary Clinton and said a bunch of mean stuff to her black
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men set that out. We won't set this out. So I don't think that
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the Republican Party understands that all the work that they did,
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trying to get us over there. Two more days of this is gonna be a
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problem. Okay.
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Adam Curry: So the definitely doing the racism thing. I
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understand that it's a it's a off the wall pick by Mo but I
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I'd like it. I think it would be great.
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John C Dvorak: Just not in a million years. Democrats aren't
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idiots. Really?
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Adam Curry: They're pretty evil when it comes to this.
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John C Dvorak: I didn't say they weren't evil. I said they
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weren't idiots. They know they're going to lose. They
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don't know they're going to lose. That's That's nonsense.
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They're going to pick some bounce something to bounce the
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ticket out and Cooper's their best bet he's the most
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milquetoast guy this. Who's this paper guy who's the Cooper, he's
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the governor of North Carolina, and he's the guy who, which is a
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swing state, unlike Maryland, which is pretty much a red
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state.
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Adam Curry: Roy Asbury Cooper the third. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: But I mean, she, they should pick Shapiro, he's
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perfect. Shapiro is great. Actually, he should be picked
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up. But they're not going to do that. Because I think she
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doesn't like jews. You know, where there's too much Jews,
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like you said. And the topic that could be foisted on her
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which is the laughable pick is this guy, Kelly from Arizona.
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Now
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Adam Curry: from what I hear, that's who Obama supposedly
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actually wanted to be running on running and running the ticket
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instead of Biden. That's just what I hear. So I don't know
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what's true like Kelly. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Have you seen this guy? Yeah, no, well, the
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Adam Curry: the bonus of this guy's he's got a twin brother.
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So we can campaign twice as much?
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's be
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Adam Curry: honest, that would be pretty good.
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John C Dvorak: But he's, he is one of those bald farts that
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looks like it and I described him in the news in the substack
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column as a Marine drill sergeant type that is just
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offensive is offensive and putting him alongside Kamla to
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be like a or Kamala or Kamala or Kamala or Kamala or Camelot.
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There's a lot of ways
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Adam Curry: is it differently herself all the time to or in
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fact
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John C Dvorak: she came out was I would like to for somebody to
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find this clip. where she was going on about how it doesn't
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matter how you pronounce her name. But everyone's all bent
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out of shape about the pronunciation. If she putting
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her next to this guy, that's just a bad look. It's kind of
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young and vibrant and you know, and this guy looks like an old
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fart, grouchy, old man and Roy
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Adam Curry: doesn't look like an old grumpy old fart
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John C Dvorak: coupe not like this don't like Kelly.
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Adam Curry: I Cooper looks pretty, pretty decrepit man, you
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know, guy. And let me play a couple more racism clips. Get it
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out of the way. Here's the view. And
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Unknown: that's why I'm encouraging women. Regardless of
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what your mix is who you are mix, this is an opportunity to
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write this ship. Yeah. Okay. This is very important.
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Adam Curry: Very important.
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John C Dvorak: Because she was gonna poop in her pants to vote
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for Biden. Now she's turned on I think
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Unknown: I'm gonna say is listen.
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She
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is ready. I'm sure it's a little freaky, freaky, because I don't
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think that she was anticipating this, but it's not like, scary
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to her. She knows what she's doing in
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there. She's a second cheer to him through all of these amazing
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ends of this administration. The
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last thing I'm gonna tell you, you were wondering about black
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jobs. There is one
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Adam Curry: die that's hilarious will be now everything I see
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points toward trying to get the young generation get them in on
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it. And for sure, I'm hearing well, Trump represents old white
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racist America Kamala represents something new this by the way
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from people who I don't think have any intention of voting at
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all. But but you know, but it'll it'll look cool. And of course
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she's completely using the brat XC X colors on our campaign and,
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and, you know, neither of you had ever heard of what's her
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face? Charlie sex before but we're getting an education
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Unknown: and the Harris campaign is seeing growing support from
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an unexpected source fans of pop sensation, Charlie FCX, we
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think you just fell out of a coconut tree.
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All in which you live and
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you're just watching one of the many edits of Kamala Harris over
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songs from Charlie FCX is viral album brat. Thursday KAMAZ
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energy matches the album's message of enjoying life, in
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spite of the struggles that you're facing. But Eclipse
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caught the attention of Charlie FCX who seemingly endorsed
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Harris boasting Kamala is Brett on x.
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Adam Curry: So these memes is really the popularity that
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Harris has because she's so idiotic. My stepdaughter came
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out of out of surgery yesterday. And the first thing she says is,
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do you think you fell out of a coconut tree? I mean, that's
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that's how deeply ingrained these memes are, as reported by
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Reuters in the most boring way possible,
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Unknown: give us some of these key means that we should know
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about so we don't embarrass ourselves in front of our
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younger colleagues when they come up. Users
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calling Kamala brat and that is after Popstar Charlie, sex is
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very recent and viral album, also called brat. And Brad The
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singer has explained via a recent Tiktok refers to quote
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that girl who is a little messy and likes to party and like
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maybe says some like dumb things, sometimes perfect
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presidential material, who like feels herself but then also like
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maybe has a breakdown and social media users have taken this new
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viral album and really used it to show their support for Harris
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calling her brand and stitching videos together video edits of
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her being goofy dancing, walking deplaning, off of Air Force to
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to show that they support her and like her. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: but they no one none of these kids is going to even
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if they're old enough, they're not going to vote for her. This
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is a losing proposition. But Reuters has more coconut
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Unknown: tree. Please explain. That stems from a 2023 event
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that Kamala did a speech for it was a White House event and in
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that speech, there's a there's a part where Harris is quoting her
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mother actually and she starts off and says, You think you just
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fell out of a coconut tree in the context
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of all in which you live in came before you. Over
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the past months, we've been seeing social media users taking
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that clip, and stitching it to use in their own videos either
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by lip syncing over it, or using it as a sound as a backdrop to
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their videos. And it's actually been co opted by a lot of Harris
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supporters online who have now taken to flagging their support
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for Harris via a coconut emoji and a palm tree emoji.
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Adam Curry: That's a winning strategy. I think coconut
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emojis, palm tree emojis that's gonna win.
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John C Dvorak: I think your basic analysis Yeah, that these
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people are going to vote. It's right on the money. Now,
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Adam Curry: there's already a complete redo of history
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underway, which is just phenomenal to see this is your
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media deconstruction, where we all know that she was put in
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charge of the border at the almost in a mean way. And we all
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saw it, like give that crap to Kamala. So Joe doesn't have to
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deal with I agree.
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John C Dvorak: I agree. It was done it. It was done
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specifically to embarrass her. And so
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Adam Curry: the media and these this is a short mini cut about a
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minute minute, seven seconds. And it's only MSNBC and CNN and
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it's interspersed of them calling her the borders are
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which is exactly what she was dubbed. And now saying that's
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not true,
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Unknown: quote unquote, borders. Our Vice President Harris was
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not a borders are
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being time vice president and borders are Kamala Harris facing
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some backlash what
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he said about Harris and immigration was not true. She
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was never appointed borders.
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And this will be her first visit to the US Mexico border region
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since she was appointed as the borders are by President Biden
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people
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that have to counter the misinformation you already hear
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folks talking about the borders are she wasn't the borders are
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President Biden tapped Kamala Harris vice president Kamala
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Harris to be the borders are
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she wasn't the borders are. That's what Republicans labeled
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her they were very critical
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of Kamala Harris especially in her role as borders are now
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what she's up against his folks lying about her border record
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calling
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her borders are
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Adam Curry: Kamala Harris, who
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Unknown: was appointed as the borders are
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the Biden team didn't declare her the borders are
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they wanted her to work on
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kind of the root causes of immigration
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there has been so much criticism against Kamala Harris you know
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she was the borders are
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calling her sort of the borders are
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which wasn't necessarily the case for the border if
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they weren't planning to address it in a major way do not make
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her your borders are
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she met with some of the Northern Triangle countries but
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nothing has effectively changed?
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Adam Curry: I mean it's amazing actually I was even came out
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with a statement you know, she was never the borders are a by
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the way we made a mistake. We're going to correct that now. We
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mistakenly called her boarders are but we were wrong.
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John C Dvorak: You know, these guys it's always the same group
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as the Atlantic magazine CNN and MSNBC and Axios to a lesser
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extent they they're their gas lighters, but there seems to me
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they're gaslighting themselves.
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Adam Curry: Oh yeah. They have to gaslight themselves into
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believing they're basically
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John C Dvorak: gaslighting themselves. And they're all in
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it's embarrassing to watch. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: but people forget now people forget Oh, forget
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John C Dvorak: that much. Especially when you This is well
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okay. They forget to a point. But that's what advertising is
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for? Well, that's
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Adam Curry: this is what repetition is just a Republican
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said that is not true. That's that's how it works is
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repetitions repetition, just say it often enough. Now, the other
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thing that to me was a blatant lie, was this, she raised a
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billion dollars, at 1 million 100 million 121 million. She's
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raised all this money. Let's talk about the money for a
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second. And I think it's kind of obvious what happened here. This
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is on the media,
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Unknown: you can't give money from one candidate to another,
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there's very small amounts are allowed.
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But you said it could go to the DNC, therefore, the money could
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end up in support of whoever the nominee turned out,
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right. But then that money is not as valuable in the hands of
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the DNC for two reasons. First, the DNC would not be able to
19:15
coordinate messaging to the extent it uses that money, you'd
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have to have actually like a separate group that would spend
19:21
this money. It's one of the weird quirks of our campaign
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finance system. The other thing is the candidates get the lowest
19:29
cost for commercials on TV by law. And so the money is more
19:33
valuable in the hands of a candidate. It's in the hands of
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a party. So it matters if it stays in the hands of the party.
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Adam Curry: So the way I see it, I think, you know, there's a lot
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I don't know if it's true or not, but there's a lot of talk
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about $50 million dollars coming from one donor, which I think is
19:50
probably true. And then there's about 30 million that the DNC
19:54
could get or can go to Kamala and then an extra million of
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people who actually donated little little to one dollar $50
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donation that's how they came up with 81. This is all marketing.
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Unknown: This I agree.
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John C Dvorak: We talked about this on horror with show. Yes.
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Adam Curry: And I called him which
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John C Dvorak: is funny. Inside. Yeah so where's the auditor?
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This is it's just a way to say hey look at doing the bandwagon
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is underway get on board. This is bullcrap these numbers are
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fake.
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Adam Curry: They're fake. I think so to think so too. And I
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love it.
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John C Dvorak: Especially so quickly before anyone had got
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got a chance to take a breath. I have a clip of went live Camela.
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Yeah. This is erase
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Adam Curry: the racist. It's Kamala
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John C Dvorak: Harris by this is the Harris by Harris. Harris by
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Unknown: Well, well, well. I knew this day would come. Come
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No. That sounds it in my ovaries.
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. This is one of those women on Tiktok.
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Unknown: I didn't think that sticking all those needles in
21:09
that Biden doll would help it here. Good. I'm gonna have so
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much fun. I've been a little busy since the news broke. And,
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you know, I was galvanizing with many donors. And I asked my good
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friend John Claude Van Damme peer speech so here it goes.
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Nothing. Oh, say can you see By the dawn's early light. John
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con. I don't want to talk about Don in the speech. Okay, I think
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you're confused. Yeah, hanging around Joe just really fucked
21:56
you up. All right. I'm gonna do this my way. All right. I got
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this far. Okay, America, and Willie. Get ready. Because it is
22:13
time to unburden what has been.
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Adam Curry: You know, I can't believe that all these women who
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imitate Kamala clearly listen to our show.
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John C Dvorak: A must. I agree. She looks like she stole that
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this is SD penalty pa LTI. Yeah. And she's one of the I think she
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I think was regressed who's good. As she doesn't I would
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like to hear a little more. Nasal nasal. She's nasal but I
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don't think she's nasal enough. And well, while
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Adam Curry: we're producing Yes. Well, what we want is we want to
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we want some no agenda drops. We want to calmly saying something
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funny about us. That's what we want. That's what we should have
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had. We should have had that two years ago. Yep. Yeah. And and
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our girl fell through she's, uh, yeah, I'm gonna do it. And then
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she never did.
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John C Dvorak: But whatever happened to her?
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Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't know. She got a cease and
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desist probably.
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John C Dvorak: Like could be. Did you see? Yeah. You
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Adam Curry: see Chuck Schumer announcing his unwavering and
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enthusiastic support for for Kamala, the clinching the
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nomination kind of presumptive. Vnus.
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John C Dvorak: And the great thing about this, if you have
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the clip, I do the great thing about this is if you have the
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whole clip, I don't he he says it's grassroots grassroots.
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Yeah, I don't have that part, he says is grass roots. It is
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basically a coronation. But it did grow in the heavens grass
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grass.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but the whole thing. I mean, so there's an
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actual audience here and then here today to throw our support
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behind vice president Kamala Harris. I'm clapping. You don't
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have to.
23:54
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, the clap is a happy day. What
23:59
Adam Curry: can I say? Wow, what a tell that is.
24:04
Unknown: Is that happy day?
24:05
Adam Curry: He's probably thinking that that damn SHVARTS.
24:08
You know that it's what he's thinking. Guys. No, good.
24:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly what he's thinking horrible,
24:15
Adam Curry: man. What's horrible, man? I remember
24:17
meeting him. He was it was very scary, man. Very scary, man. Did
24:22
we really arrogant, horrible man. All right, let's talk about
24:29
AGI Biden. A GI Joe a GI Joe, everybody who showed up on our
24:35
television screens and in all kinds of well, actually, yes.
24:39
John C Dvorak: I funny thing is I got a clip of the rehearsal.
24:45
Adam Curry: You're not gonna you've already had an F bomb.
24:47
You're gonna do another one. All right. This is on you. This is
24:51
on you.
24:52
John C Dvorak: Is it though? I looks like I clipped his twice.
24:55
Yeah, let's
24:55
Unknown: go. Yeah,
24:56
John C Dvorak: I know what the hateful one is two seconds
24:58
longer now. Okay. Hey,
25:01
Unknown: fellow Americans, I want to take a moment to address
25:04
some of the hateful shit. You've been talking about me. Many of
25:07
you have said I am suffering from brain worms, or that I have
25:10
applesauce for brains. Well, I won't mince words. So you're
25:13
this talk you You're all a bunch of faggots and to, quote, repeat
25:16
the line. So enjoy President cackles or President booty
25:19
juice. I really don't give two fucks anymore. fight it out.
25:23
Adam Curry: All right. Very good. John. We all saw it. We
25:26
didn't need to bring it to the show. But you did. Of course.
25:30
No. So the the, you know, of course, the the president air
25:34
quotes, spoke to the nation yesterday. Before before we get
25:39
to that though. Kamala went to the Biden Harris HQ, and spoke
25:47
to the troops told them they all still had jobs, which is the
25:49
real reason they were all cheering. And this of course, is
25:53
the the bit that that aired, which didn't come back by the
25:57
way in, in like Lawrence O'Donnell, he did a whole
26:00
segment on how awesome she is and how awesome that Joe called
26:05
in. And he didn't actually include this one bit, which
26:08
everybody saw.
26:09
Unknown: It is so good to hear our President's voice, Joe, I
26:13
know you're still on the on the call on the record record
26:17
recording and we've been talking every day. You probably you guys
26:21
heard it from Doug's voice. We love Joe and Jill. We really do
26:26
like family. And we did everybody.
26:30
Adam Curry: Alright, so I of course watch the whole thing.
26:34
And this was so obviously fake. And of course, by the time I
26:37
went to look for it, people, people had already input this
26:41
recording into 11 labs. And you know, it comes back. Oh, yeah,
26:46
that's definitely an AI recording. But you can tell,
26:49
because in no way is this the Joe Biden who we saw before he
26:54
went away, or the one we saw last night? Oh,
26:58
John C Dvorak: it's another guy. It's, well, no, I
27:01
Adam Curry: don't think it's
27:01
John C Dvorak: fake voice.
27:02
Adam Curry: It's fake. And we know it's not a phone call.
27:05
Because all of his phone calls are done on speakerphone. This
27:08
was very direct. It was blessed.
27:11
John C Dvorak: It was a good observation. I didn't notice
27:13
that. It didn't even
27:15
Adam Curry: sound like a phone call. And then listen how how
27:18
the HQ lady Joyce, I think her name is how she introduces him
27:23
because he spoke before Kamala came up.
27:25
Unknown: Mr. President, thank you for calling in today. Over
27:28
to you. Over to you.
27:31
Adam Curry: If I didn't I mean, who says over to you? Who says
27:35
that? Over to you that? Listen, I'll cue you with over to you.
27:40
Okay. Okay, that's good. We're ready. Go ahead, Joyce.
27:45
Unknown: Julie, if I didn't have COVID I'd be sitting there with
27:48
you standing there with you. And
27:50
Adam Curry: I thought is COVID was over? Nah,
27:54
Unknown: I'm so proud of what you're now
27:56
Adam Curry: also whenever the audience cheers and cheers. What
28:00
is what is President Biden always do? He says not a joke.
28:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says not a joke. Always respond.
28:07
Adam Curry: So he's either not I mean, either. This is not a
28:10
phone call, or it was pre recorded with
28:13
Unknown: you standing there with you. I'm so proud of what you
28:19
did on TV. Keep me
28:20
Adam Curry: out of He's not responding to the cheers. He's
28:23
not the typical me. So what he couldn't hear it. He just keeps
28:26
on talking people's
28:28
Unknown: hair for the next four days. But I'm going to be on the
28:32
road. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to just kept me
28:36
wanting to
28:38
John C Dvorak: hold on. I'm gonna be on the road. I'm not
28:41
going anywhere. Yeah. Now, here's,
28:43
Adam Curry: here's the real tell. He rattles off a whole
28:46
bunch of names of people who who supported the fundraising and
28:53
not a single mistake one after another. He hasn't done this in
28:56
15 years. Now.
28:57
Unknown: He's kidding saying no, I'm only 40. But I've been
29:00
around long, better campaign organization grassroots
29:04
campaign. You know, we have by
29:06
Adam Curry: the way, I don't know if that's his recording or
29:09
my recording. But there was an obvious digital flowable in
29:12
here.
29:13
Unknown: I don't know of a better campaign organization
29:15
grassroots campaign. We have over 230 offices opened. We have
29:20
over 2000 paid staff. And we have literally several 1000
29:24
volunteers on a regular basis 1000s of them, and they've been
29:28
relentless and tireless and reaching out and contacting
29:31
voters. The leadership of this campaign has been amazing. Jen
29:34
O'Malley Dillon, Julie Quinn, Michael Tyler Brown, Florida,
29:39
raising money and so many more.
29:40
Adam Curry: Couldn't even remember. Lloyd Austin's name a
29:44
week ago. Yeah, black guy. Yeah, that black guy. So all of a
29:48
sudden you can rattle off these names. Now we go to the Biden
29:52
who spoke to the nation last night. You know,
29:55
Unknown: we've come so far since my inauguration on that Today I
30:00
told you as a student, that winter winter student in a
30:03
winter apparel and winter possibilities, apparel and
30:09
possibilities. Were in the grip of the war we were in the grip
30:13
of a worst pandemic in the century winter
30:15
Adam Curry: apparel, a parent apparel. Guy if it if it's a GI
30:22
Joe, no doubt about it. There's a lot of weirdness with this
30:28
speech from last night. He has a huge bruise on the left side of
30:32
his chin bruise on the on his left side of his forehead. It
30:36
looked like he had a fat lip. His watch was an hour behind. Do
30:43
you see any of that? No, I did not. Yeah, you can see his
30:47
watch. It's it's an hour behind, you know, insinuating that it
30:53
was recorded that it was recorded an hour earlier.
30:56
Everything case his whole family's in the Oval Office, his
30:59
granddaughters crying because they know what's the end of the
31:01
road is the end of the road. But the guy that I saw walk up the
31:05
steps on the Air Force One in Delaware. That was not Joe
31:09
Biden. It just what he's taller. He's taller than the other one.
31:15
Because he stands next to Joe, I looked at all the pictures of
31:17
Joe and Jill. And in she comes up barely to his shoulder with
31:22
this guy. And which brings me back to the TED talk from a few
31:28
years ago of the CIA chief of disguise,
31:31
Unknown: sort of the culmination of my career as the chief of
31:34
disguise, I, I know that once we did this, once we could create
31:40
these, think of what we could do, we could change you into
31:44
anything, we could change your gender, a man into a woman,
31:48
that's a little hard men didn't like to do that a woman into a
31:51
man that was easier. We could change your ethnicity. We could
31:55
change your nationality. The most fun thing we could do is we
32:00
could make another you we could make your twin. So there could
32:04
be two of you. We needed to find a donor who would kind of match
32:07
you height weight. But we can make a second you. And we did.
32:12
And we had some good times with that. Now I know that some of
32:16
you in this audience are already thinking, are they going to
32:20
arrest her? Is she in trouble for telling these secrets? And
32:25
you have to know that these secrets have all been published?
32:29
We've written four books, they've all gone through CIA
32:31
Review. The CIA has looked at them including this last one
32:35
with all these Moscow rules. CIA says are okay. So I want you to
32:40
relax. I want you to know that I don't have to kill you. It makes
32:46
me so happy. So
32:48
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm thinking that the Biden we saw go on to
32:53
the plane where he didn't answer any questions. His head wasn't
32:57
even the right shape. That was a twin. And then the guy who then
33:02
later walks out with with Jill and the press corps in the Rose
33:06
Garden. That was not him. I think the real Biden spoke and
33:09
everyone's sad and crying because the guy is dead. He's
33:12
almost dead. He's dying. The what's with the bruise that he
33:16
fall down?
33:17
John C Dvorak: Well here like this, play this and maybe I
33:19
don't know if this helps. But this is the body language guy.
33:23
This cut from a podcast. Yeah, yeah. And this guy. This is a
33:27
long is long and interesting, except I just snipped it this
33:32
one little piece.
33:33
Unknown: The last tip that we have. Are these rumors that
33:37
President Biden suffered an undisclosed medical emergency
33:40
during his time in Las Vegas. Police sources say was was just
33:46
today, just fresh. We still don't know what has happened to
33:53
President Biden. I don't trust that call. That there's so many
33:58
things that you can do with AI nowadays. I really don't trust
34:03
that. Having no zoom calls and not having the person I think I
34:07
think this is all too strange. But I would love love to know
34:11
what you think about this.
34:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, you know, this this stems originally from
34:16
actually Laura Loomer, I think on July was that fifth was it
34:21
was two weeks ago. She was all over Twitter going down. There
34:26
was a medical emergency on Air Force One and something happened
34:30
to buy it and she was saying it before Charlie Kirk had some
34:34
tweet that he put out which Tucker Carlson read on his show.
34:38
This
34:39
Unknown: is from Charlie Kirk. I got a weird I'm reading this
34:41
cold. I got a weird lead on a story.
34:43
Adam Curry: I'm reading this cold. So you know I'm Tucker
34:45
Carlson. People ought to look
34:47
Unknown: into I got a call from a source close to Las Vegas
34:49
Metro Police. The official story was that Biden's trip was cut
34:52
short last week due to COVID. However, according to this
34:55
source, he was Secret Service informed Las Vegas Metro that
34:58
there was an emergency situation involving Joe Biden. And to
35:01
close necessary streets so that POTUS can be transported
35:04
immediately to University Medical, which began to which
35:07
they began to do in earnest. Then mysteriously there was a
35:10
stand down order and the Secret Service informed local Vegas PD
35:13
that they were going to medivac POTUS to Johns Hopkins, which
35:16
they presume meant flying back east as soon as possible.
35:19
Apparently, the rumor mill in the police department was that
35:21
Joe Biden was dying or already dead. Possibly. I didn't think
35:27
too much about this lead. It seemed too wild to be true. But
35:29
given the Joe Biden has been out of public sight for days, and
35:32
dropped out of the race via an x post, and his brother James
35:35
indicated health was a factor. I'm beginning to grow more
35:37
curious if COVID Or something else has been more serious than
35:40
reported. So
35:41
Adam Curry: then, you and I both watched this. I didn't clip it.
35:44
But Brett Weinstein comes out and does a 12 minute emergency
35:49
video from the woods. He's in the woods. Why is
35:53
John C Dvorak: he stopped with the emergency video people he
35:57
was not that important than emergency
35:59
Adam Curry: pod from the woods. And he's like, this was a psyop.
36:04
They just wanted to be able to call everybody conspiracy theory
36:07
theorist and that and but Joe Biden's not dead. He's not in
36:10
hospice care. He's the SIOP Weinstein is the SIOP Get with
36:16
it. This guy's no good I think it listen to the CBS is three
36:23
short clips but CPS really is putting out their hit on Biden a
36:28
Unknown: massive earthquake in this already historic
36:30
presidential race. Good evening. This seismic Sunday I'm Norah
36:35
O'Donnell in Juarez mix Sunday, Washington with 100 days until
36:40
Election Day, President Joe Biden announcing he is ending
36:44
his reelection campaign. The President released the decision
36:48
today in a statement at 1:46pm. Eastern time, Mr. Biden saying
36:53
quote, it has been the greatest honor of my life to serve as
36:57
your President. And while it has been my intention to seek
37:00
reelection, I believe it is in the best interest of my party
37:04
and the country for me to stand down and to focus solely on
37:07
fulfilling my duties as president for the remainder of
37:10
my term.
37:11
Adam Curry: So that's the intro then we bring in Nancy Cortez,
37:14
CBS News Chief White
37:15
Unknown: House correspondent Gloria Cordis Cortez at the
37:18
White House at
37:19
Adam Curry: the White House all Nancy, what do you like? What
37:21
are you learning at this hour and answer?
37:23
Unknown: What do we know about how the President came to this
37:26
historic decision?
37:28
When he came to this decision, or within the past 24 hours, it
37:32
has been days if not weeks, of White House officials from the
37:36
President on down insisting that he was in it to win it that he
37:40
was tuning out the doubters and that he was going to win this
37:45
race. Until this morning. When we started to get worried that
37:49
potential potentially he had had a change of heart. Right around
37:53
two o'clock Eastern time this afternoon. He made it official
37:57
in an announcement to the American people were told that
38:00
just a few minutes before that he told his senior advisors
38:03
before that, though, holed up in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. He was
38:07
there with just a few members of his inner circle, including his
38:11
deputy chief of staff, his longtime right hand woman and he
38:14
tommasini, two of his longtime senior advisors, Mike Donalyn,
38:18
and Steve are Shetty. All those doubters that appears just got
38:22
too loud. And he started to have a change of heart.
38:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. Okay. And then she rolls out the
38:28
weirdest piece of this report.
38:30
Unknown: We got word Nora, from the President's brother earlier
38:33
today saying that the President's health he believes
38:37
was a factor in his decision. But just a short time ago, I
38:40
heard from a source close to the Biden family and they said that
38:44
Frank Biden the President's younger brother is an alcoholic
38:48
that he hasn't spoken to the President in weeks, and that the
38:51
President's health had nothing to do with his decision to leave
38:55
the race.
38:56
Adam Curry: So so let me get this straight. So Biden's
39:00
brother says nice health is not good that's why to drop out and
39:03
then CBS as as drunk is now key. That's really crazy. Wow,
39:10
John C Dvorak: this is funny now I have to alter it let me throw
39:13
another little another bolt into that works. I don't have a clip
39:19
for it, unfortunately. But But there's one rumor going around
39:22
that they that some hot shots and the top guys Donald and
39:25
being one of them. Who's Who Donalyn is the guy see more
39:30
hearse thinks is running everything right.
39:33
Adam Curry: I read this substack it was good. And
39:37
John C Dvorak: then went to Biden and maybe something
39:39
happened in Vegas where it was like you said the the bruises
39:42
and baby may have been part of this. They threatened Biden with
39:48
the 25th amendment. Kamala was on board and she was gonna do it
39:53
and even though it was gonna make her look bad, maybe they
39:55
could. They could run somebody else. This morning. There was a
39:58
news article in the SF Gate Debt during this era during this
40:02
period, Gavin Newsom was getting phone calls that he didn't pick
40:05
up because he was at the gym. So it was possible they're going to
40:12
they're doing something that was going to get Newsom in there.
40:15
were threatening Biden with the 25th amendment. If he didn't
40:17
quit, he quit. And then it took a while before he comes out and
40:21
says Harris is going to be the choice, right? They couldn't get
40:25
a hold of Newsom. He talks about it. I'm I'm guessing on his
40:29
podcast, which he has to everyone's got
40:31
Adam Curry: Pat. Hey, it's my invention, baby is good. Yeah,
40:35
the
40:35
John C Dvorak: credit you get his is not zero. It's not paying
40:39
the bills. Anyway, so. So there's intrigue going on. But I
40:45
think this element that the 25th amendment would have been
40:47
dropped on Biden, and he would have been humiliated is what's
40:50
really behind because he never, he never says in that stupid
40:54
little talk. He gave why yesterday quit. Why, actually
40:58
why he quit.
40:59
Adam Curry: Well, he actually said better for the party. And
41:01
then the country, which I thought was quite telling you, I
41:05
thought I thought you were for the country, bro. Yeah. So
41:08
Walter Kern was on Mata ABC podcast. He's better podcasting.
41:14
Walter Kern, as he's a screenwriter, I think he wrote
41:17
up in the air George Clooney, his movie, a whole bunch of
41:19
other
41:20
John C Dvorak: based on gut felt all the time. Ah, well, he
41:24
Adam Curry: overheard a phone call in the airport when he was
41:26
stranded. And here's what he heard
41:28
Unknown: when I was in the Delta airline club, Saturday in
41:33
Milwaukee waiting all day, hour after hour for my flight to be
41:39
my delayed flight. I happened to be sitting next to a major White
41:43
House reporter who I won't name. But who was chatting up a storm
41:50
for hours, one foot from me giving what he believed to be
41:56
the inside line from his White House sources to all his friends
41:59
about what was going on with BI. And what he was saying was that
42:05
Nancy Pelosi was taking the lead to get Biden now that the Biden
42:10
people were freaked that there were two circles of them, the
42:13
sort of outer circle that is completely in the dark, and the
42:17
inner circle that felt incredibly betrayed and hurt by
42:22
this, quote, orchestrated campaign to get rid of him. Now,
42:27
he repeated these stories to at least four different phone
42:32
partners. And the common theme of all of them was the Biden was
42:37
not going quietly that
42:39
John C Dvorak: he was
42:42
Unknown: that he was indeed sick. And that he was not
42:48
sounding well on the phone and the conversations that he had
42:51
had reported to him. But he was there, he was apparently alive
42:57
as of at least Friday or, you know, maybe early Saturday when
43:02
this guy was being told he was on the phone with Pelosi, etc.
43:07
And there were a lot of details in this, like, Biden kept
43:10
saying, I don't want to sit there on election night and see
43:13
Trump win and realize I could
43:15
John C Dvorak: have done something.
43:17
Adam Curry: Now that kind of jives with the 25th amendment
43:19
because that's Pelosi is hold deal. Remember, she she tried to
43:23
get a resolution passed in Congress so that Congress could
43:28
the House of Representatives could be the ones to approve?
43:32
Track?
43:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All kinds of violation of separation of
43:35
powers. The
43:36
Adam Curry: Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi. Yes. So let's go to CNN.
43:42
I like listening to Van Jones, because, you know, he, he's
43:46
funny.
43:46
John C Dvorak: He's the worst.
43:48
Unknown: He's the best band
43:49
Jones joining us. He is CNN senior political commentator and
43:52
a former Obama administration official event, obviously,
43:55
that's
43:55
Adam Curry: why I like it. I want to hear but the this is the
43:58
Obama official
43:59
John C Dvorak: guy for like two days before they jumped all over
44:01
him being a fraud. You
44:04
Unknown: and I were talking a lot about this dynamic and how
44:06
this was ultimately going to play out when we were covering
44:08
the Republican convention in Milwaukee last week. And with
44:11
this news, this entire campaign has just upended itself.
44:17
Yeah, there's a lot of political stuff. There Guys, the family at
44:24
the end of the day is a family matter you know, Joe Biden's
44:27
body may not be as strong as it used to be. His language skills
44:30
may not be as sharp as it used to be. His heart is as big as
44:33
ever. Yeah, his heart is as big and as true and as strong. And
44:39
this is this is the difference between a politician and a
44:42
leader. He made a selfless decision and people are
44:47
heartbroken even people who are pushing for this to happen. It's
44:50
kind of like, like when you're when your grandpa you got to
44:53
take the keys and everybody you got tickets keys, gotta take his
44:56
keys, you got it. And he's fighting and he's fighting
44:59
everybody so far. straight. And then finally,
45:02
Adam Curry: I tell you, man, if my kids come up to me, my
45:04
grandkids if I remember blessed with grandkids, and they try to
45:07
take my keys, I'm gonna pull out a piece of I'm gonna pull out a
45:09
gun and shoot them step back from your kid.
45:12
Unknown: And then you just make quiche, I wanted somebody who
45:18
was better for you to somebody, you wouldn't be here without
45:20
him, and had to take something from him. Yeah, we
45:22
Adam Curry: need more metaphors like Van Hey, van, this is
45:25
great. And more metaphors, politics is
45:27
Unknown: politics. But this is a human moment. For one of the
45:31
great humans in America, this is a huge moment for him for his
45:35
family, for all of us who are for those who want him to get
45:39
across the finish line. But if you're a young person watching
45:42
this, yeah, this is leadership. This is
45:46
John C Dvorak: what, but when you're done with that job, I
45:49
gotta follow up. This
45:51
Unknown: is what it means to put the country first and put the
45:53
party first and put the cost first, when your arm gets tired,
45:56
you let somebody else finish pitching the game. That's what
45:59
Joe Biden has done. And he's done that for all of us. And so
46:02
I just want to say, I don't know who's going to be the VP, the
46:05
non VP. I don't know anything about politics. I just know that
46:08
I love this man.
46:09
Adam Curry: I know. What's a non VP I just care about
46:12
John C Dvorak: non VP. This
46:14
Unknown: man, it was painful everyday to sit up here and talk
46:16
about him. Like he's just, you know, some some problem for the
46:19
party. Yeah, wait till we get to the convention, you're gonna see
46:22
people crying, standing, screaming, cheering, he may not
46:26
get a chance to talk for 10 minutes, we finally get a chance
46:28
to put our arm around this guy. isn't the right thing for this
46:31
country, do the right thing for this party. All of us are going
46:33
to be in a situation someday. And I hope that we can take a
46:36
moment to honor this man and to love this man. I love Joe Biden.
46:39
I appreciate what he's done. And a lot of people are heartbroken
46:42
today, even if it's the right thing. It's still just horrible.
46:44
It's horrible. It's horrible. I
46:47
John C Dvorak: mean, we're big, hard, great guy. You know, we're
46:49
all gonna we all love him, blah, blah, blah. Here it is. He is in
46:53
2008 inferring, or implying that Obama's gay This is why he's
47:00
running for president in 2008. This is great.
47:03
Unknown: I know, Barack got tested for AIDS. There's no
47:06
shame and being tested for aid. It's an important thing. Because
47:10
the fact of the matter is in the community, and the communities
47:13
engaged in denial. They're engaged in denial. No one wants
47:18
to talk about it in the community. And we do not have
47:21
enough leaders in the community and outside the community,
47:24
demanding we face the reality confront the men in the
47:28
community, as well as the women letting them know there are
47:32
alternative. Thank you.
47:39
I just got to make clear, I got tested with Michelle. Yeah.
47:49
I don't want any confusion
47:52
about what's going
47:54
to save my life because
47:58
I'm sure Michelle, appreciate you clarifying.
48:02
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah,
48:03
John C Dvorak: that was that was funny thing about that clip.
48:06
When you see it, is that as Biden's going off on Obama by
48:10
getting tested for AIDS and playing he's gay the way he did
48:14
it, obviously, is Hillary city is right next to to Biden
48:19
nodding her head and you Yeah,
48:23
Adam Curry: bathhouse Barry. We all know. Well, no. Have you got
48:28
let me go back to divan here for a second. Because he's, he's got
48:31
he had, he tells us more than than he should to see,
48:35
Unknown: you know, what the reporting has been behind the
48:37
scenes of Democrats who wanted him to get out on Friday night,
48:40
the reporting was that he was seething over, you know, seeing
48:43
big allies of Pelosi come out and call on him to get out even
48:47
upset to a degree with his former running mate, President
48:50
Obama and just to see, you know, what he personally has witnessed
48:54
and these calls from from his longtime allies, people who
48:57
certainly praise his legacy. But that said, you know, it's time
49:01
for this decision to be made.
49:04
But how we all come through this with our own family members,
49:07
like Yeah, he's hurt. He's pissed. A lot of us wouldn't
49:10
have crews I wouldn't have agree without Joe Biden, Joe Biden
49:12
picked me out of the puppy pile. He's the person that everybody
49:15
says you work for Brock Obama, not I worked. I worked for Joe
49:17
Biden, when I was in the administration, I was on his
49:19
middle class. You know, all of us have known that embrace all
49:24
of us have gotten those phone calls and those cards when bad
49:26
things have happened to us. So you know, that's, that's the
49:29
family. That's what it is. You know, he's hurt now. He feels
49:33
let down. He feels that his friends turned on him, in the
49:36
fullness of time, though, recognize that it was done out
49:39
of love and as loving away as possible. But at the end of the
49:43
day, some people and I don't want to mention any names and
49:46
ruin this day, but some people will back their leader no matter
49:49
what, some people, they don't care how many people this man is
49:52
hurt. And I mean, we lost he's broken, no matter how many bad
49:55
things he's done. That's our leader. We're gonna back up no
49:57
matter what. But this party is not like that this is not a
50:01
cult. This is a political organization. And we believe in
50:05
these principles and if somebody is sick, if somebody can't do
50:09
it, there's no shame in that. If
50:12
Adam Curry: somebody's sick if somebody can't do it, what Advan
50:16
just say?
50:17
John C Dvorak: He said Joe's sick and he can't do it. Yet
50:22
he's going to be president for the next six months or so.
50:26
Adam Curry: I liked Mike Johnson, the Cheshire Cat. No,
50:31
actually, I dislike Mike Johnson, the Cheshire Cat, I
50:34
really don't listen, listen to him. Listen to this.
50:37
Unknown: You've had interactions with the president privately has
50:40
he seemed cognitively
50:41
impaired? Yes. I mean, look, I didn't want to come out and talk
50:45
about, you know, personal interactions with the President,
50:48
because I've been concerned about what I just said about
50:50
this projection of weakness on the world stage in a very
50:52
dangerous. Oh, really? It's an interesting question, Jake. If
50:55
He's incapable of running for president, how is he capable of
50:59
governing right now? I mean, there is five months left in
51:02
this administration. It's a real concern. And it's a danger to
51:05
the country because on the world stage or adversary see exactly
51:09
what all of us see. And that's a problem. We're projecting
51:13
weakness on the world stage. And that's why our our adversaries
51:16
are acting so provocatively, this is a great concern to all
51:19
the American people. You've had interactions
51:20
Adam Curry: with the press. So I don't buy this first. Second.
51:24
You're telling me that Mike Johnson didn't didn't want to
51:27
tell anybody that Biden is losing his marbles because it
51:31
was dangerous on the underworld stage. No, I don't this guy is
51:37
in multiple camps. I don't trust him. Well, I
51:40
John C Dvorak: don't trust him either. I don't like him at all.
51:42
But I, but I think he's right. On that on this count.
51:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, but everyone was everyone saying it but Mike
51:51
Johnson. I don't know. This stinks. stinky, stinky, stinky,
51:56
stinky.
51:57
John C Dvorak: Well, he's greasy,
51:59
Adam Curry: greasy for sure. I think we should probably just
52:06
talk briefly about some of the well, this a lot has happened
52:09
actually. Since since the the Sunday show. Of course. Breaking
52:17
breaking.
52:18
Unknown: Good morning to you are coming on the air with some
52:20
breaking news. The director of the Secret Service, the director
52:24
of the Secret Service, has resigned her resignation coming.
52:27
Just one day after Kimberly Cheeto was grilled by members of
52:31
Congress on both sides of the aisle during a testy hearing
52:35
with the House Oversight Committee yesterday. As you
52:38
probably know, the Secret Service itself has been under
52:42
intense scrutiny for the past week or so after last week's
52:46
assassination attempt against former President Trump.
52:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Oh, she got out of that one easy. If you
52:53
if you resign as directors is that it then you don't have to
52:58
come and testify anymore? And that's it.
53:00
John C Dvorak: If you're subpoenaed. Well, yeah.
53:03
Adam Curry: Basically this we have an ABC version of this
53:06
report
53:06
Unknown: sources telling ABC sources the Secret Service has
53:08
recommended the Donald Trump's campaign stop holding outdoor
53:12
rallies following the assassination attempt. And Phil
53:15
Sylvania comes just 24 hours after that blistering hearing
53:19
your follow up. Today, bipartisan calls for the
53:22
resignation of Secret Service Director Kim Cheeto.
53:25
Not only should you resign if you refuse to do so. President
53:28
Biden needs to fire you tonight taking
53:30
responsibility for the security failures. That led to the
53:34
attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump in
53:38
an email to staff CIO saying I do not want my calls for
53:42
resignation to be a distraction from the great work each and
53:46
every one of you do towards our vital mission. In light of
53:49
recent events. It is with a heavy heart that I have made the
53:52
difficult decision to step down as your director. Yeah.
53:57
Adam Curry: So she's out of the way because she failed. She had
53:59
one job to kill.
54:03
John C Dvorak: Yes, she had one job and she'd
54:05
Adam Curry: failed. And then Christopher Rea, the head honcho
54:08
of the FBI shows up the next day to testify which got a lot less
54:11
coverage.
54:12
Unknown: Tonight we're learning the gunman who nearly
54:15
assassinated FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP entered a chilling
54:18
Google search a week before the shooting.
54:21
On July 6, he did a Google search for quote, how far away
54:28
was Oswald from Kennedy?
54:31
An FBI analysis of crooks his laptop found he did the search
54:35
on the same day he registered for Trump's rally, and
54:38
references Lee Harvey Oswald who assassinated President John F.
54:42
Kennedy in 1963. They can see the guy Investigators are still
54:47
looking into whether the gunman hid his firearm ahead of the
54:50
rally.
54:50
The weapon had a collapsible stock, which could explain why
54:57
it might have been less easy for people to observe. In
55:00
a CBS News Analysis found crooks fired eight bullets in less than
55:04
six seconds before being shot and killed by a secret service
55:08
sniper.
55:09
Why was crooks allowed to get off eight shots?
55:12
Well, that I think is something we're still digging into.
55:15
Adam Curry: That's worth it. That's a good question. That's a
55:17
great question. Why why did that happen? Now the thing that has
55:20
bothered me and just as a pilot in general, but all you know, we
55:26
have a lot of drone dorks, Will is one of them. We have a lot of
55:30
different drone dorks in the no agenda producing audience. And
55:34
so this information from FBI director, Ray, there's a lot of
55:38
problems with this, we
55:40
Unknown: have recovered a drone that the shooter appears to have
55:44
used, it's being exploited and analyzed by the FBI lab, the
55:48
drone visa
55:49
Adam Curry: is being exploited.
55:52
John C Dvorak: But he said, abused, it's
55:54
Unknown: being exploited, analyzed by the FBI lab, the
55:57
drone was recovered in his vehicle. So at the time of the
56:01
shooting, the drone was in his vehicle 3:50pm, four o'clock in
56:07
that window, on the day of the shooting, that the shooter was
56:13
flying the drone around the area 11 That's not to be clear, but
56:19
when I say the area, not over the the stage, and that part of
56:24
the area itself, I would say about 200 yards, give or take
56:27
away, okay, and that we think, but we do not know. So again,
56:31
this is one of these things that's qualified because of our
56:33
ongoing review, that he was live streaming, you know, viewing the
56:37
footage from that again, about 11 minutes, and around the 354
56:42
o'clock pm re two hours
56:43
John C Dvorak: before he's flying a drone in the in the
56:45
vicinity of about 200 yards away.
56:47
Adam Curry: Okay, couple of things from our producers boots
56:49
on the ground. Any drone, unless it was a drone from before 2015,
56:56
which is unlikely because the kid would have been 11 You can
57:01
download the full flight data log in seconds, all you have to
57:05
do is connect the USB cable to the drone fuselage to computer,
57:09
you download it very accurate 3d flight data log, which you can
57:13
overlay on a Google map, you can see this immediately. So to say
57:17
that, you know, we're exploiting it. It's also complicated and
57:20
difficult, but they obviously have the data and they got it
57:23
very quickly and simply. So Ray is full of crap here. Because
57:27
they know exactly where it was flying. And they knew at what
57:30
time and this is troubling. Remember that temporary flight
57:34
restriction that was put in place, which is an aviation
57:38
thing, and so no plane, or drone or anything can fly in that area
57:44
was up to 1000 feet. That was in place from 4:10pm to 6:20pm,
57:58
which is odd by itself. Because if the President was the if the
58:03
foreign president was coming out to speak at 10, after six, he
58:08
really only had 10 minutes of coverage. Before you could fly
58:13
anything you want over that area, which makes no sense
58:15
unless Trump was late, I don't know. But you'd think you'd have
58:18
that TFR in place a lot longer than that and any drone modern
58:24
drone today will actually not even take off. It has all of
58:29
them have to have this is all legal stuff. The DJI DJI drones
58:33
all have this to take won't even take off if you're in a in a
58:38
temporary flight restricted area. And it does have a
58:41
transponder and it will ping and that would have been noticed. So
58:46
for this kid, he's now flying this drone 10 minutes before the
58:49
TFR goes into place. I just find that to be too much of a
58:54
coincidence. I don't like it. And of course this is the FBI
59:00
launching some kind of Oswald conspiracy. Oh, look at the CIA.
59:04
It's not us. No, no, no, no, he was looking at Oswald. Yeah, how
59:08
far was this is? This is so hokey is so hokey. It
59:13
John C Dvorak: is pretty okay. Would you start looking at the
59:15
details? Yeah. And
59:17
Adam Curry: to me, it feels a bit like whoever is you know,
59:21
Satan, whoever's behind this the whole I'd say it's never one
59:26
person Satan's
59:27
John C Dvorak: really at the meetings. Representatives. Okay.
59:32
Yes,
59:33
Adam Curry: his representatives, I think we're at the meetings
59:36
and the idea was let's get rid of both of these guys. Because
59:41
whilst we're you have your first debate before both conventions
59:49
John C Dvorak: makes those says zero so it makes zero
59:51
Adam Curry: sense so we got a bite and so we had to show to
59:54
the world Biden's a vegetable Okay, we got that done. You
59:57
know, we didn't even give him any didn't mean When jack them
1:00:00
up for 15 minutes, just let them go out there, Screw him. And
1:00:03
then the idea is I guess to take out Trump. So we could have I
1:00:08
don't know Newsom Newsom versus Nikki Haley.
1:00:13
John C Dvorak: Well, it would have been Nikki Haley. Probably,
1:00:15
yeah, got some votes because she stayed in the race. But I would
1:00:18
say, I would say that you take out Trump and then Biden who is
1:00:22
sick and is everyone knows it would have then resigned because
1:00:26
he would have said, Look, I only reason I was in this race is
1:00:29
because of Trump, I can beat him, I can beat him, I beat him
1:00:31
before I could beat him again. But now I don't need to be here.
1:00:34
So now pass the torch, then he would show the whole thing,
1:00:38
whether Trump was in, in or out if he was out to take it out.
1:00:42
Biden would have quit in the meantime. And that was, I think,
1:00:45
part if the if there was a plan, that would be it.
1:00:50
Adam Curry: And that's what and I would
1:00:52
John C Dvorak: have been Nikki Haley should have had two women,
1:00:53
Nikki Haley versus Camela. And then we're or Gavin, but it
1:00:57
would have to be camera like because of their nature. And the
1:00:59
part
1:01:00
Adam Curry: of the plan that is still working as, as expected is
1:01:05
to have so many holes, so didn't let the internet go crazy about
1:01:11
second shooter third shooter
1:01:13
John C Dvorak: was a child. That was flute ludicrous. Oh,
1:01:17
Adam Curry: and I think that was always the plan. And that's
1:01:19
working very well. People are so obsessed.
1:01:24
John C Dvorak: Now, I think they're out of control. And
1:01:25
Adam Curry: if there really was a second and a third shooter,
1:01:27
Trump would be dead.
1:01:30
Unknown: He would be dead. Yeah,
1:01:32
John C Dvorak: he would be these guys don't mess around me guys
1:01:35
shooting out. You don't mess around long range rifles. No.
1:01:41
Adam Curry: Now, I mean, it still could have just been a
1:01:44
met. I mean, again, I still think that this kid blew it.
1:01:48
Yeah,
1:01:48
John C Dvorak: there's a new I don't have the clip of this. But
1:01:51
there was there was a couple of clips out there about how he did
1:01:55
have a remote control device.
1:01:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, we had a fireworks remote control with a
1:02:00
broken antenna as an aside. But his his pipe bombs were
1:02:05
cardboard pipe bombs. They weren't metal. You know, we had
1:02:11
the headlines, loud noises. So maybe it was just to send a
1:02:15
message to Trump I would look for sure Trump got a message.
1:02:18
And he I think he responded to the message by saying Don't
1:02:21
worry, big ships, Iron Dome, plenty of money to go around.
1:02:26
Don't worry about me. Don't worry about me. I'll
1:02:28
John C Dvorak: take your spot. That would be the response if
1:02:31
you're smart. Yes. And subs that go deeper than any very
1:02:36
Adam Curry: deep, very beautiful, beautiful, sleek
1:02:39
sleep deep subs. Very, very good. And then and then just to
1:02:42
add insult to injury, we've got now all of a sudden you saw the
1:02:48
cell phone data that was published on an X. Now I don't I
1:02:57
mean, you know, you can get cell phone data, you can buy it on
1:03:01
the public market. So now that we're showing that other cell
1:03:05
phones, visited the shooters address crooks home, and then
1:03:11
went back to DC. And we're very close to the FBI office.
1:03:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was that that was one of them. That
1:03:19
was one another another thesis that's floating around, which is
1:03:23
that whatever was going to happen to Trump or whatever
1:03:28
crooks was up to, was going to always be attributed to this
1:03:32
this late comment that the Iranians wanted him killed and
1:03:37
he had three bitcoins secret Bitcoin accounts somehow that
1:03:41
were going to be attributed to Iran and they were going to be
1:03:44
able to go after Iran for killing Trump.
1:03:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's that sounds good, too.
1:03:50
John C Dvorak: I liked it. I mean, some of these theories, or
1:03:52
at least fascinating if you're a writer. Yeah. Because there's
1:03:56
some there's some some plot lines and some very interesting
1:04:00
analysis. Yeah. This always stems from the fact that you
1:04:03
mentioned earlier, that their lack of information and the lack
1:04:07
of forthrightness with these tests, total
1:04:10
Adam Curry: lies, lies. Lies. They're just making it up.
1:04:14
John C Dvorak: Now, I will say I do have a couple of clips that I
1:04:17
would like to play Yes. I know there's some really good super
1:04:21
cuts of of Cheadle saying nothing she's really good at it.
1:04:27
Yeah, she's not good enough. You know, I was thinking about this
1:04:30
she you know, she never was in the government at the level
1:04:33
where she should be know how to testify properly. When when they
1:04:37
went after her I don't have this clip. But when they went after
1:04:39
about the number of bullets, one of the Congress women said how
1:04:43
many bullets were there? I can't say ongoing investigation. And
1:04:48
she said what did the FBI tell you how many bullets or were are
1:04:50
shell shell casings? Which I by the way, I want to apologize for
1:04:54
saying bullet when I met shell. Yes, I got a bunch of notes now.
1:04:58
Is it 22 Yeah. Now you say Ba ba ba ba. So because I said it was
1:05:03
a big bullet. Yeah. No, it's not. It's a big shell. Yeah, the
1:05:07
bullet itself is small, but the shell is huge. And this create a
1:05:11
high you
1:05:11
Adam Curry: got you got slapped appropriately?
1:05:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's I don't think so. And I mean, let
1:05:17
me explain why I don't think so if you walked into a room yells,
1:05:22
and there was somebody took a handful of 45 shells and threw
1:05:26
them on the floor, and you walked into the room, and
1:05:29
there's a bunch of these around. And you said, what are all these
1:05:32
bullets doing on the floor? Are you wrong? Yeah. But we weren't.
1:05:37
But
1:05:37
Adam Curry: we were talking. We were talking specifically about
1:05:40
556 versus two threes and 20. Very
1:05:44
John C Dvorak: similar. It's okay that you want to say that
1:05:48
oh,
1:05:48
Adam Curry: the Hey, at least we never say clip when we mean
1:05:51
magazine. All right. I mean, we try. But
1:05:54
John C Dvorak: yeah, we have our clips or the what we play on the
1:05:56
show. We
1:05:57
Adam Curry: have a lot of people who like to make sure we're
1:06:00
being accurate. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not a bad.
1:06:04
John C Dvorak: I apologize. I'm sorry. Mia culpa. All right. So
1:06:09
there's this one woman that went on and on and but but I still
1:06:12
think Nancy Mays, who I actually kind of admire because she's,
1:06:16
she is like, where
1:06:18
Adam Curry: she been all our life. All of a sudden she pops
1:06:21
up and she does good stuff. This is good.
1:06:24
John C Dvorak: For a couple of years now. I've heard her they
1:06:26
would tell us to play or we haven't just played her a lot.
1:06:29
That's I don't think so. No, but she is funny. She's like, she's
1:06:33
in between Bo Bert and Dan Green woman. Yeah. Only she and she's
1:06:38
pretty in in kind of a big jawed way. She is. She's good enough
1:06:44
for a big part in one of our productions. Absolutely. And so
1:06:49
I'd say that she and I think she's a little more dead green
1:06:55
woman. She is a little off to Margaret Marjorie Taylor Greene.
1:06:59
Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's funnier, but she's nuts. Now
1:07:03
this woman's
1:07:04
Adam Curry: room. Now I want to remind you that Marjorie Taylor
1:07:07
Greene was your pick. You were like, I like her. She's spice. I
1:07:10
do.
1:07:11
John C Dvorak: I still like her. Okay, all right.
1:07:12
Adam Curry: Are you calling her nuts?
1:07:13
John C Dvorak: It's not very cool. She's nuts. But she's on
1:07:17
the money most of the time. And I like her. She's just a very,
1:07:20
she's brutal. Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. It makes us not as bad in
1:07:25
that regard. But she's pretty straightforward. Yeah. And this
1:07:28
is slicker. She's slicker. This is a little, one minute 15
1:07:31
segment out of her five minutes that she had with Cheadle. And
1:07:35
this is the part people keep playing and they keep beeping it
1:07:37
out. And I think screw that, you know, you should. There's no
1:07:41
reason to bleep it out. This isn't Congress. It's on the
1:07:43
floor of the of the of the House of Representatives. And
1:07:47
Adam Curry: this isn't CNN, this is a podcast. You
1:07:49
Unknown: stated earlier. Secret Service is not political. Is
1:07:52
that correct? Yes. Okay, would you say leaking your opening
1:07:56
statement to Punchbowl news Politico's playbook and
1:08:00
Washington Post several hours before you sent it to this
1:08:04
Committee as being political? Yes or no? I have no idea how my
1:08:09
statement got out. Well, that's bullshit. Okay. Is the Secret
1:08:17
Service my Perley cooperating with our committee?
1:08:21
Yes. Okay.
1:08:24
You say you're fully cooperating with this committee. On July 15.
1:08:27
This committee sent you a list of demands of information that
1:08:31
we wanted. Has the Secret Service provided this committee,
1:08:35
a complete list of all law enforcement personnel that were
1:08:38
there that day? Have you done that? Have you provided a list
1:08:40
to the Oversight Committee? Yes or No. We'll have to get back to
1:08:43
you on that. That is a no. Have you provided all audio and video
1:08:47
recordings in your possession to this committee? As we asked on
1:08:50
July 15, yes or no. I would have to get back to you as a no,
1:08:53
you're full of shit today. You're just being completely
1:08:56
dishonest. Oh,
1:08:57
Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman,
1:08:59
I want to Mr. Chair, I
1:09:01
don't mind we have to maintain decorum in this committee.
1:09:05
decorum.
1:09:06
Adam Curry: My pearls are no. Oh, no. I have one more clip
1:09:11
from Ray. I think this is the JFK thing. It's short. Newly
1:09:14
Unknown: released body cam footage shows the moments after
1:09:17
the assassination attempt. Former President Donald Trump.
1:09:20
Officers climb to the roof to find the body of government
1:09:22
Thomas Crux FBI director Christopher Rea, testified about
1:09:26
the shooting during a congressional hearing yesterday
1:09:28
he says the crooks conducted an online search about the
1:09:31
assassination of JFK. On the same day that he registered for
1:09:35
the rally. Kirk's also shot and killed one civilian and injured
1:09:39
two other people. One of the wounded men was discharged from
1:09:41
the hospital yesterday. The other one remains in serious but
1:09:44
stable condition. The House passed a resolution yesterday to
1:09:47
establish a bipartisan Task Force to investigate the attack.
1:09:51
Oh,
1:09:52
Adam Curry: Warren Commission. Perfect. Perfect this. They're
1:09:56
pulling out old playbooks. And I think this is the FBI. Cool
1:10:00
clearly saying, Oh no, this is this is not us. You got a good
1:10:03
CIA in the mob? That's who killed JFK. Cubans? Maybe? I
1:10:08
don't know. Nothing to do with us. I'm
1:10:11
John C Dvorak: sticking with the mob theory.
1:10:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, now that's fine. That's fine. I mean, what
1:10:18
a what a week it was. And then it was great. It really was. And
1:10:22
then of course, we got the which is just like, Oh, we're just
1:10:26
gonna talk about the cyber pandemic anymore. We'll just let
1:10:29
that go by, you know, the crowds, the CrowdStrike issue.
1:10:35
And
1:10:36
John C Dvorak: before we leave, Ray, I do have two clips. Okay.
1:10:39
These are wraps
1:10:40
Adam Curry: remind me to come back to CrowdStrike
1:10:44
John C Dvorak: I don't have anything I don't know. I do. I
1:10:46
it's gonna be hard for me to I remind you I have boots on the
1:10:49
ground. Oh, okay. Well, let's go at this are the NTD wraps of
1:10:53
Ray. I think they're worth listening to because they did a
1:10:58
pretty good as just a rapid. We're done with Ray.
1:11:02
Unknown: This is in di D FBI director Christopher Ray
1:11:06
testified before the House Judiciary Committee on
1:11:09
Wednesday. Now, among other things, lawmakers tried to find
1:11:12
out why disorder tried to kill former President Trump and what
1:11:15
the FBI knew about him before the incident happened. Here's
1:11:19
how it went. There's
1:11:21
doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it so far.
1:11:25
Ray told lawmakers that the FBI is currently looking into the
1:11:28
shooters, personal devices, his social media accounts and more.
1:11:32
So far without much success.
1:11:34
We do not yet have a clear picture of his motive. You might
1:11:38
see a manifesto, things like that. We're not seeing that yet.
1:11:43
But we are digging in hard.
1:11:46
Adam Curry: Yet we're writing it. We got to put the lemon
1:11:50
juice on it and everything. We're not done yet where we're
1:11:52
digging hard things
1:11:53
Unknown: like that. We're not seeing that yet. Yeah. But we
1:11:58
are digging in hard because one of the central questions for us.
1:12:02
As
1:12:02
newly released body cam footage shows an interaction between a
1:12:05
Secret Service agent and local law enforcement shortly after
1:12:09
the shooter was killed
1:12:11
in Beaver County.
1:12:13
This is him. Okay. Ray
1:12:14
explained why the FBI investigation didn't make much
1:12:17
progress yet. He says that even after they got their hands on
1:12:21
the shooters phone, new challenges popped up. And
1:12:24
it turned out he was using some encrypted messaging application.
1:12:27
Was
1:12:28
John C Dvorak: this a pretty sophisticated? Or is this this
1:12:30
is the kind of the norm you see what folks like you know,
1:12:32
Unknown: this is unfortunately now become very commonplace. And
1:12:35
it's a real challenge for not just the FBI, but state and
1:12:37
local law enforcement. Why
1:12:39
Adam Curry: not name it? Was it signal? Come on? Come on, tell
1:12:43
us that's a good point name naming apps.
1:12:48
John C Dvorak: And what they should do is name the one with
1:12:50
the backdoor. If there was Yes, everyone would think they would
1:12:54
say Yeah, well, you know, one of the apps that we just had
1:12:56
nothing but trouble with his blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and the
1:12:59
thing is totally backdoored. And that's what that's what you do,
1:13:02
because you're criminals are dumb. Yeah. Okay, part two.
1:13:07
Unknown: Tell me one thing the FBI did find on a device tied to
1:13:10
the shooter is a telling Google search, looking up details of
1:13:14
the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
1:13:16
He did a Google search. How far away was Oswald from Kennedy?
1:13:22
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. So now, I guess they did get into
1:13:27
the phone. I mean, there's so many questions that weren't
1:13:32
asked,
1:13:32
John C Dvorak: or they had to get into the phone and get that
1:13:34
search information or
1:13:35
Adam Curry: No, they just call Google or just hop on the portal
1:13:39
that they have. Could be that.
1:13:42
John C Dvorak: It'd be easier if they could do it on the phone
1:13:44
site because Google had I don't know how they got too much info
1:13:47
to get loaded with data.
1:13:48
Adam Curry: They know. They haven't there's a partner's Come
1:13:50
on. As Whitney Webb, she knows. She'll tell you the truth. That
1:13:57
Unknown: is the same day that it appears that he registered for
1:14:02
the butler rally.
1:14:04
Another pressing question is what the FBI knew about the
1:14:07
shooter before the incident happened. Florida Republican
1:14:11
Matt gates question right on that
1:14:12
no
1:14:13
communication in any chat rooms, no see eyes or confidential
1:14:17
human sources of any interaction.
1:14:19
We've run a thorough search for the subject through all of our
1:14:23
holdings and he was not in them anywhere. Ray
1:14:26
made it clear that investigations are still ongoing
1:14:29
and that the FBI will disclose more information as the probe
1:14:32
continues.
1:14:35
Adam Curry: So I don't want to augment or change my, my initial
1:14:40
thinking about, you know, the failed assassination on Trump.
1:14:44
You know, we had to change that narrative. And that's why
1:14:47
CrowdStrike was deployed something that would definitely
1:14:52
distract which it did perfectly. Can you just imagine though,
1:14:59
imagine And let's say that the CrowdStrike thing was pre
1:15:02
programmed or meow. It was like already set up to take place.
1:15:06
And you had had Trump dead. We have video nonstop of his head
1:15:11
exploding. I know it's a horrible visual, but it wouldn't
1:15:14
put it on the air. We'd have it it'd be everywhere on the
1:15:17
internet.
1:15:18
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure. Well, maybe because of people
1:15:20
taking these now. It'd be everywhere everywhere
1:15:22
Adam Curry: on the internet, then we'd have the convention or
1:15:24
not, I don't know. But and then you have this massive computer
1:15:29
fail. This would have been the country would have been in
1:15:33
chaos, which may have also been the point you imagine, there
1:15:39
will be guys running around with with AI AR fifteens all over the
1:15:43
whole country. They'd be shooting and everybody your copy
1:15:47
probably part of it would have been horrible. Just a mess. I
1:15:50
mean, we don't really realize what kind of real disaster we
1:15:56
avoided here. Just imagine, because, you know, assassination
1:16:02
attempt failed. Everyone's cool. There's no rioting. No one's
1:16:05
burning flags. No one's burning down buildings. It's all cool,
1:16:11
all calm. But if it had been different, oh, man. And so I am
1:16:17
not sure about CrowdStrike. But I do have some boots on the
1:16:21
ground that are worth sharing. One of our nights as an
1:16:25
employee. He says By the way, this is not This has nothing to
1:16:30
do with a microservice. He's being technical about it. John,
1:16:34
your your analogy still holds. But he's saying the Falcon is
1:16:38
basically a rootkit you install on your machine. And one of the
1:16:42
data files was corrupted causing the code to crash. It's not like
1:16:46
the back end service was down, the file gets delivered over a
1:16:49
CDN a content delivery,
1:16:51
John C Dvorak: I'll concede that it's not technically technically
1:16:55
a
1:16:55
Adam Curry: service, Mike. He's, he's not making a problem out of
1:16:59
it. Now he says CrowdStrike is a very odd company. I feel like I
1:17:03
work in the alias or something. And I'm what is the alias is
1:17:07
that I think he's
1:17:08
John C Dvorak: referring to the the TV show that was on for
1:17:11
about three, three or four seasons alias, with Jennifer
1:17:15
Garner playing a spy that seemed to be working for the CIA. But
1:17:19
it turned out that this whole operation was some other thing.
1:17:23
It wasn't even it was countered to the CIA and it was very
1:17:27
strange. Show us what JJ Abrams first big hit. So
1:17:32
Adam Curry: he says he feels like he's working in the alias.
1:17:35
It's extremely compartmentalized. I can't even
1:17:38
see the Falcon code as a high level engineer. During the call
1:17:42
a higher level engineer made comments on Thursday, warning an
1:17:47
external partner we were working on a deal with that there might
1:17:51
be a hold up. He goes on to say you are correct, in my opinion,
1:17:56
that there's no way this update could to the file hit the CDN
1:18:00
unless it was intentional. Falcon is the oldest and most
1:18:03
mature part of the product. Basically, it's the part that
1:18:06
runs in all customers computers sends kernel level back to
1:18:10
CrowdStrike. So that can analyze everything, all caps, that
1:18:14
happens on a computer for ongoing attacks. CrowdStrike
1:18:18
doesn't only run on AWS, it stores data on its own hardware,
1:18:22
and we store exabytes. So that's nice to know, they store
1:18:26
everything
1:18:27
John C Dvorak: crowded since CrowdStrike.
1:18:29
Adam Curry: itself sent out an update, and they said it was
1:18:36
faulty testing software. That's got to be a lie. And by the way,
1:18:42
they are certified. They have an eye they have a lot of
1:18:45
certifications, but they have an ISO 27 Double oh one N double oh
1:18:50
two, they should at least lose that certification. Because
1:18:55
there's no I mean, they they're basically they're saying our
1:19:00
vet, there was a bug in our validator. Are you kidding me?
1:19:04
That's just just gotta be a lie. Faulty test, faulty testing
1:19:09
software. Now, here's an off the wall, one from one of our
1:19:14
producers, who runs an independent ISP in Los Angeles.
1:19:21
I think it's it's software. So it serves not internet service
1:19:26
provider but IT service provider. While we are quite
1:19:31
small in comparison to the incumbents in our area, about
1:19:33
80% of our customers are small to medium businesses, including
1:19:36
one municipality. Thus we have some direct insight into issues
1:19:40
like what have been happening the past week, we are aware of
1:19:43
the CrowdStrike incident and something else seems to have
1:19:46
gone unreported. On Thursday afternoon about 3pm Now 3pm
1:19:52
makes it 11pm Zulu time is it 10 or 1110 or 11. When the
1:20:01
CrowdStrike outage did not happen until the file was
1:20:05
delivered at thing was 4am. So this is at least six to nine
1:20:12
hours, if not longer before the CrowdStrike file was delivered.
1:20:19
So at 3pm Pacific Standard Time, we began getting calls from
1:20:22
clients complaining they couldn't do certain things,
1:20:24
access their email, get to their SharePoint. And in one case,
1:20:28
single sign on with Microsoft 365. Then we started accessing
1:20:32
these clients to open support tickets on our cloud hosted
1:20:36
software, and we're getting 550 server not found errors. These
1:20:41
were all on Microsoft Azure. And I have read this that there was
1:20:46
people were seeing all kinds of Azure problems. And this
1:20:50
producer says it's possible that Azure was hit with some kind of
1:20:54
attack and ask CrowdStrike to push something out to fix it.
1:20:58
And either that fix took a dump or it was intentional. Because
1:21:03
doesn't the government have all their contracts with AWS and
1:21:06
Azure? Isn't it huge? I don't know this. I remember they were
1:21:10
fighting I remember Microsoft was fighting with Amazon and
1:21:14
Amazon got the contract and then it got unwound.
1:21:19
John C Dvorak: So there's been shenanigans I do know that.
1:21:24
Adam Curry: So whatever the case, this I believe this to be
1:21:28
an intentional action on crowd strikes. Part and the
1:21:37
CrowdStrike chief security officer apparently was an
1:21:41
executive assistant director of the FBI under Obama. He also
1:21:45
sold 1500 or 15,000 shares at 1500 15,000 shares two days
1:21:53
before this all happened somebody knew something well
1:21:58
that's suspicious Yeah, yeah, you should do you want to your
1:22:01
insider sales thing you never know sometimes they're they're
1:22:04
usually automatic
1:22:06
John C Dvorak: these these things slowly Yeah, well, that's
1:22:09
easy to prove you can just see because he can he's been doing
1:22:12
it but if it's just a one time thing is suspicious. But
1:22:18
Adam Curry: there's just just even from our insider inside
1:22:21
CrowdStrike says there's no way this kind of bug could you know
1:22:26
this kind of faulty update file could get through with it you
1:22:32
know, through the testing etc. So whether that was a call that
1:22:36
went out hey, we've got to change the the narrative which
1:22:38
It sure did. And of course as we discussed in the last show,
1:22:41
because of EULAs and all that stuff there's although that
1:22:44
there is a stack sent me a link there is a class action lawsuit
1:22:48
they're going to try and do something good luck Yeah, good
1:22:52
John C Dvorak: luck out. When does that ever work? Yeah.
1:22:54
Adam Curry: CrowdStrike sent out to $10 Uber Eats gift cards to
1:22:57
everybody which subsequently that true yeah which
1:23:02
subsequently Thanks for nothing were all canceled people started
1:23:05
to went to Uber Eats to input them and says this has been
1:23:08
cancelled by the issuer also
1:23:11
John C Dvorak: there was data and even sent out to tempt Buck
1:23:13
Thank you know what that reason was probably because it was an
1:23:16
admission of guilt. Oh, that's
1:23:18
Adam Curry: right. Someone said no, no, no, no, no rollback
1:23:20
rollback. Yeah. Oh, man.
1:23:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you have to be careful if you're doing
1:23:26
admissions that you know this is the member one time he got into
1:23:30
I don't have much but it's happened I've gotten to a car
1:23:33
wreck.
1:23:35
Adam Curry: Was it your fault? It was
1:23:37
John C Dvorak: totally my fault. The only time I know of English
1:23:40
since I was a little kid when I was in high school. Another
1:23:43
story
1:23:43
Adam Curry: I don't know about what is happening to you. So
1:23:48
you're regressing. You're going your life is flashing before
1:23:51
your eyes. Get
1:23:53
John C Dvorak: to me stories is the problem. So I was I felt bad
1:23:58
about this too. It was like I'm in Arizona and I've got a rental
1:24:07
and I'm driving down the road just like a normal person I had
1:24:09
I had this is another reason I don't like having phones. So I
1:24:13
had a cell phone on the in the car. It was sitting in the
1:24:17
passenger seat as I reached to get it to grab it because I
1:24:20
don't know why they had to tie you swear I look up and there's
1:24:23
a dumb girl who stopped in the fast lane to make a left. Oh
1:24:28
man, so I plowed right into her. That was what was weird because
1:24:33
I'm normally dry. Usually by me my car is a Lexus, of course and
1:24:37
the car I was renting was a Nissan knows that one of the
1:24:39
reasons I don't like Nissan's I slammed the brakes on in my
1:24:44
Lexus I would have stopped in time. But now this thing didn't
1:24:48
stop at all. It just kept going. You know I'm just I just floor
1:24:53
it, you know and it doesn't stop the cars no good. It plows into
1:24:58
a boom. All right And so I get out, you know, we exchange
1:25:03
information and she's like, she's a pretty girl too. She's
1:25:07
on my neck. And she's I said, you know, you know and I saw I
1:25:11
was the I didn't pay any attention to the car in front of
1:25:13
the car was just ruined. And so I did later, just drove the car
1:25:20
and I drove it in to drop it off. It's just typical. I know
1:25:23
if anyone's gotten to a car wreck with a rental, but it's
1:25:26
like no surprise to anybody when you bring the car in and it's,
1:25:29
it's and by the way the airbag never went off. That's another
1:25:32
thing about this Nissan, so I didn't have an airbag go off. I
1:25:37
think they take them out anyway, so I dropped the car off and
1:25:39
didn't think much about it. But I felt bad about the about the
1:25:44
girl and I wanted to send her an apology note and the lawyer for
1:25:47
the insurance can no ever make contact with her ever. It's an
1:25:52
admission of guilt and they made a big thing about it. So we lost
1:25:57
interest picked the whole thing up I didn't even know it was
1:25:59
including that I guess they fixed the car to I don't know,
1:26:03
you know an airbag in it.
1:26:04
Adam Curry: I got a note from Brad, you know, after your Canon
1:26:08
Spectre story. And he says, Okay, enough is enough. I am now
1:26:14
convinced John as a time traveler, following his recent
1:26:17
can inspector story, this man has had too many jobs, more jobs
1:26:21
than a man of his age could accommodate. I'll bet you $33
1:26:24
That if you covered a story like a nationwide tuna fish outage,
1:26:28
or shortage, John would tell tale of his days as a tuna boat
1:26:31
captain. This man is truly the most interesting man on the
1:26:36
planet.
1:26:38
John C Dvorak: Tuna boat captain No, but I knew a friend of mine
1:26:41
who was the tuna boat.
1:26:45
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
1:26:47
courage say in the morning to the man who put the seat in his
1:26:49
car wreck in Arizona say hello to my friend on the other end
1:26:52
the one and only Mr. John Cena
1:27:01
in the morning to the trolls and the troll. 2153 Well, that's not
1:27:12
bad. We had 2319 on the last Thursday show. So we're in the
1:27:19
same ballpark. It's good to have the trolls here. Welcome trolls,
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Bitcoin is live from Nashville. And you can watch that live on
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these modern podcast apps as well. Not just audio, but also
1:28:01
video. So that's how that's the revolution, you can't do it on
1:28:05
your legacy app, not with Spotify, not with Apple, not
1:28:08
with Amazon, only in the modern podcast apps. Now along with the
1:28:14
with the everyone supporting the independent podcast, app
1:28:18
developer and that infrastructure, which keeps the
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show on the air, we also have value for value keeping us
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going. And the way that works is whatever value you get from the
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show. We don't give it we give it all away. I mean, it's
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everywhere. We distribute it wherever we can. People use the
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distributed on torrents, I don't think they do that anymore. What
1:28:38
happened? I know whatever, torrents fall out of favor,
1:28:41
somehow, maybe jazz only movies
1:28:44
John C Dvorak: now. Maybe now it may have fallen out of favor.
1:28:47
People
1:28:47
Adam Curry: used to love that, you know, you can get it on
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IPFS, the inter interplanetary file system, it's everywhere.
1:28:56
And there's no hoops or anything, you know, you can
1:28:58
listen as much as you want for as long as you want. But at
1:29:01
certain point, you're like, Yeah, I'd like this to continue.
1:29:04
That is when you need to deliver some value back and whatever
1:29:07
that is, is how much you got out of it. For some people, that's
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amazing. The amount they get, the value they get and what they
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send back, or what they do for the show. Like people are
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hitting people in the mouth or organizing meetups, when all
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kinds of things. time, talent or treasure is the three ways you
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can send value back to us and let us know if it's if it's time
1:29:27
and talent, let us know what you're doing. We just we'd love
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to know we appreciate it. And of course, at this point in the
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show, we'd like to thank the people who supported us with big
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amounts doesn't mean that it's more valuable than the $5. That
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doesn't mean that at all. But we're like Hollywood in that
1:29:43
regard. You know, we want to give people credits. Executive
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producer, Associate Executive Producer, if it's $200 and above
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you get that Associate Executive producer credit and we read your
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those are credits that are real. It is just like Hollywood. As
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you can put them where the Hollywood donations
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are@imdb.com, there's over 1000 people already have done that,
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or on your LinkedIn profile, it looks interesting, and it could
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get you a job.
1:30:11
John C Dvorak: You never know. It's very possible, won't hurt.
1:30:14
Adam Curry: So let's start with thanking our artists first
1:30:18
because they definitely deliver the time and the talent. And if
1:30:22
I look at Episode 1679, which he titled No jet, no deal, and the
1:30:27
jury's still out on whether Biden President Biden got a net
1:30:32
jet card or not for his maybe that's where his granddaughter
1:30:36
was crying. Just guard Graham's Paw Paw. We had a hard time once
1:30:46
again, looking at whatever we could find for artwork. Now
1:30:49
there's a lot of submissions, which he loved, and somehow
1:30:52
Correct. A record just hit us because you couldn't remember
1:30:55
the name Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, and you kept saying
1:30:58
Baphomet, which is hilarious. So it kind of worked. Because we
1:31:03
had you know, Biden with the minute we started the show. That
1:31:07
phony baloney letter with a forged signature came out. I
1:31:10
mean, let's be honest, that was not Biden's original signature
1:31:13
no is no way. And so you know, welcome to the correct record
1:31:18
made the sign Welcome to Baphomet Delaware endless
1:31:21
discoveries abandoned elections, ye who enter here, and it was
1:31:24
funny, and we liked it. We did look at a lot of other things,
1:31:27
though,
1:31:27
John C Dvorak: actually got a note from somebody saying hey,
1:31:29
you gotta just not Baphomet is Rehoboth Beach. Oh,
1:31:34
Adam Curry: okay, Captain Obvious. Hello. So there are a
1:31:36
number of other things. We now we thought now we really liked
1:31:40
Mr. Glitch by networks. And that would have been the winner. But
1:31:45
we had a unique opportunity because we found out about
1:31:47
Biden's resignation on the air so we wanted to make sure that
1:31:51
it at least looked like we were current which we were I love the
1:31:54
people who was I can't believe he didn't talk bad bit. So did
1:31:58
you even listen to the show? No. Oh, okay.
1:32:02
John C Dvorak: The what? I didn't hear what you said people
1:32:04
Adam Curry: people are tweeting, axing slashing, saying I can't
1:32:07
believe we didn't talk about Biden quitting. Did you listen
1:32:12
to the show? And what are these people? Do they they needle
1:32:15
dropped 10 minutes. I don't know what that was. So networks was a
1:32:20
very close second for that reason. We wanted to see if we
1:32:24
could use something and there really wasn't a lot. Dame Kenny
1:32:27
Ben of another fine Dutch Master had a pallet of cash with Joe.
1:32:32
Thank you, which I think the cash just wasn't clear enough.
1:32:35
It was too small.
1:32:36
John C Dvorak: Yes.
1:32:39
Adam Curry: honorable mention for Francisco Scarah mangas.
1:32:41
Cannon Specter. Honor honorable, very honorable mention that was
1:32:45
very funny. They got the biggest was funny. It was very funny.
1:32:49
John C Dvorak: We'll, by the way back to the can inspector thing.
1:32:52
One of the reasons I had so many jobs because I'm from the era
1:32:56
where I worked every summer when I was in high school. That's for
1:33:00
jobs. I worked every summer when I was in college, just eight. So
1:33:05
I have eight jobs right there. And there except for one repeat
1:33:09
job. Worked for International Harvester, two different times.
1:33:13
They're all different. And so it's a lot you get good stories.
1:33:17
Adam Curry: I mean, I got stories. I worked in the Rose
1:33:19
nursery, I stacked wood. I got job stacked wood. Yes. That was
1:33:25
that was a very tough summer. It was Maha mahogany. firewood and
1:33:31
they had these big orange bags and they must have been 100 by
1:33:34
the time you fill up an orange bag must have been about 80
1:33:37
pounds. And you see it's a filming a terrible job. Oh, it
1:33:41
was he had to fit him in these it was this really heavy duty
1:33:44
orange plastic. I don't know if they exist in America or in
1:33:46
Holland. And, and you could only there were no handles on it. He
1:33:50
had to grasp it. And so your knuckles at the end of the day
1:33:53
or just your your front knuckles just completely raw from trying
1:33:56
to pull these bags up and then you know, someone else would
1:33:59
stack it in there. You had to kind of do it like a Tetris
1:34:02
puzzle. And then together you had to lift it up and put it on
1:34:04
top of the stack. I mean, it was it was a tough job.
1:34:08
John C Dvorak: I know it's hard. It's called hard labor. Yeah,
1:34:11
well done. I avoided those jobs like the plague. Well, I
1:34:14
Adam Curry: thought the rose nursery will be great because
1:34:16
you're just basically sorting rose roses. You know, you're
1:34:20
gonna get by laying a lot. Oh, man, you come home. Your whole
1:34:23
forearm was just all scratched up.
1:34:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, you're probably immune to having
1:34:28
any reaction to a lot of chemicals because of that.
1:34:32
Adam Curry: That's correct. Yes, I'm very strong, healthy man.
1:34:35
Knock on wood. At Taunton, Neil and other Dutch master did an
1:34:41
exit sign at the White House. What it was the right idea was
1:34:47
usable, it was usable was usable. Tanzania also did a
1:34:51
Harris Clinton like no that was not usable. We knew that wasn't
1:34:54
going to work. And we see was anything else A Biden ice cream
1:35:01
cone, the golden parachute, Matthew Dropo is funny, but I
1:35:06
don't think anyone would get it just from looking at it. See a
1:35:08
lot of these times people put the title under their work and
1:35:11
then it's like, well now you get it. But if you don't look at the
1:35:14
title, which the title is never underneath the work and we post
1:35:17
the show, right, get what? You wouldn't get the joke. Was it
1:35:22
anything else? Hit the road dirty Jersey horror hit the road
1:35:25
Jack. Some kind of McCobb future home of Joseph R Biden. I use
1:35:32
that in the newsletter library. That was another dank, the Dutch
1:35:35
masters man, they are good. We love them all. And correct the
1:35:38
record another fine Dutch Master I think from from Leiden in the
1:35:42
Netherlands. Great job. Great job. And we appreciate it
1:35:46
because no other show has this type of production that I know
1:35:52
of I know that not maybe I don't
1:35:54
John C Dvorak: think so. And that with this quality. overall
1:35:57
quality.
1:35:58
Adam Curry: Yes is very high and a lot less AI in general. This
1:36:02
this last round, which I thought was pretty good. Just yeah, it
1:36:07
was less less a which is good. We liked that. Alright, let's
1:36:13
thank our executive and Associate Executive producers
1:36:15
and we will start off with our top executive producer. Like
1:36:21
clockwork, he comes in around the end or the beginning of the
1:36:24
month. The one the only Serrana Miss of Dogpatch. And Lois
1:36:28
LeBeau via we never understand his donation amounts, they are
1:36:32
always kind of
1:36:33
John C Dvorak: so I have to talk about this donation amount. You
1:36:36
want to okay, it's 21 point we think it's a coded and so it
1:36:40
came in as 2114. When I counted it, it was 2112. J, what she
1:36:47
does is she adds we see we always agree, right number Yeah.
1:36:52
So she says yeah, I got 2114. I said what? And she says yeah, I
1:36:57
said was it there was only one $2 bill? She says no, there were
1:37:00
two, the $2 bills were stuck together. So like, you know,
1:37:04
when you get fresh bills, these are fresh on nor does he just
1:37:07
got he always
1:37:08
Adam Curry: he always sends cash.
1:37:10
John C Dvorak: And so the $2 bills I I counted it twice. And
1:37:14
that $2 Bill kept coming out as one bill. You know, interesting.
1:37:20
And so it's possible that he really sent because 2112 was
1:37:24
more. Yeah, Palindrome right?
1:37:26
Adam Curry: It's possible that he didn't know. So something
1:37:29
could go wrong. Whatever
1:37:30
John C Dvorak: the code is out there, it could be 112 or 211.
1:37:34
Adam Curry: I hope no one pushed the button yet because it could
1:37:37
have been a 2112 code could be 2114. Either way, it's a lot and
1:37:41
we really appreciate you synonymous of Dogpatch and Loris
1:37:44
LeBeau. Via and he sent the following note he always has a
1:37:47
printed note. Thank you to all old and new producers for making
1:37:51
this a valuable source of information perspective and
1:37:54
insight. Keeping my letter short as I have no insight into
1:37:58
whatever is going on in the US politics. The Gods Must Be
1:38:02
Crazy. No jingles no karma. Sure, Animus. Thank you. You're
1:38:07
you are a real match.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: Well, he I prefer it when he has these longer
1:38:17
observational notes. Yeah, they're always very education.
1:38:20
He
1:38:21
Adam Curry: must be he must be traveling so I'm sure he'll have
1:38:23
something. I think he's always traveling and but he must be
1:38:27
somewhere where he's a little cut off.
1:38:30
John C Dvorak: Birmingham, Alabama is is the next site of
1:38:34
Craig Bayless. He comes with 724 24 John and Adam thank you
1:38:40
so much for the sanity you provide this community all
1:38:43
uppercase in these times. We need you more than ever. Okay,
1:38:48
we'll take that. Please reconsider for more years. If
1:38:51
2028 Looks like 2024 or 2020 my ducks in bones donation 72424.
1:38:58
Ducks and bones did not catch on. Fourth. Oh, okay. This is a
1:39:05
I can't remember what that donation was on for poor Phoebe.
1:39:10
So please apply this for her Dame hood. I think this may put
1:39:14
her over the top. All right. Also shout out to any producers
1:39:18
like in the orange. Orange Beach, Alabama area that wants
1:39:23
to do a meet up. There will be at least two of you. too, if you
1:39:29
post one of the on the meetups, you okay mill and Nagios know
1:39:32
Kurt from Craig. Hi,
1:39:34
Adam Curry: Craig. Thank you very much. Nice number brother.
1:39:36
I appreciate that. On to William Levin Berg. He's in Los Angeles,
1:39:41
California. 350 and 58/4 time executive producer, send jobs
1:39:47
carnamah as well as crypto trading karma, so I can donate
1:39:51
more money to the best pod in the universe. Saying that all
1:39:56
hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bit cost
1:39:59
Unknown: jobs. Jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. Pharma.
1:40:08
John C Dvorak: Now we have virtuoso guitarist Jackie green
1:40:11
and orange Vale, California Jackie green, Jackie grade 350.
1:40:16
And he just says a short simple note Keep up the good work boys.
1:40:19
Thank
1:40:19
Adam Curry: you Jackie Harjeet Dosanjh Dosanjh Do you think
1:40:25
that's how I pronounce it? In California there? Is it Fremont
1:40:29
or friands California?
1:40:32
John C Dvorak: Fry it I guess I never heard of that harshly. I
1:40:34
don't know what this how to pronounce his name either.
1:40:37
Adam Curry: So Harjeet says in the Morning John out of my
1:40:39
husband, Raj Dosanjh. has been listening to your show since
1:40:44
2009. And he's an executive producer and regularly monitor
1:40:47
donor. I would listen in the car when we took road trips together
1:40:50
and he loves your show. Well, after all these years, I finally
1:40:54
got hit in the mouth and now I listen to no agenda on my own
1:40:57
and I also love it. You guys are amazing and I value the show so
1:41:02
I'm making my own donation please add me to the birthday
1:41:05
list turning 57 on July 27 Okay, you're on it. We value the
1:41:10
wonderful work you both do for all of us hard working Americans
1:41:14
give me some good karma and a bomb them bomb them and bomb
1:41:17
them again a thank you.
1:41:18
Unknown: In fact, I would say bomb a bomb and then bomb them
1:41:21
again.
1:41:24
You've got
1:41:29
John C Dvorak: Eric Yan Newman in
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Adam Curry: Noma Hey, Norman. Eric young woman you're gonna
1:41:35
kill nomen in The
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John C Dvorak: Hague in the Netherlands 33333 In the
1:41:40
morning, John and Adam. I've had some health issues the last
1:41:44
couple of months. But those are now fixed good. So here's a
1:41:48
donation to celebrate jingles don't enslave me. Camelot and
1:41:52
don't enslave me Camela and an F cancer please sir manila
1:41:56
envelope in The Hague, Netherlands. And
1:41:59
Unknown: flav me camp
1:42:06
Adam Curry: karma. Yes. And before we move on, we got to a
1:42:10
sad note that we were looking for Dame Elise Garling our
1:42:15
Lehmann cello producer Dame Yes, and it seems that her breast
1:42:20
cancer has returned and there's a GoFundMe I'll put that in the
1:42:24
in the show notes. But we we I want to give her some karma as
1:42:28
well. And I'm gonna give her some F cancer karma because
1:42:31
that's horrible. And she had beaten it so she can beat it
1:42:34
again
1:42:41
and of course I prayed for helps even more. Dame mama Susan,
1:42:48
Escondido, California 333 dot 33. Hay Day mama Susan of the
1:42:52
North County San Diego here. I'd like to do a belated birthday
1:42:56
switcheroo for my st. son James Beals and go towards his
1:43:00
knighthood xx Oh, all right. de mama. James Beals, it is James
1:43:06
Beals and he's on the list.
1:43:08
John C Dvorak: We're gonna go to Dixie Washington, sir. Dr. 1%
1:43:12
Baron of liberal land, which is Washington State. Dixie,
1:43:18
Oklahoma. Dixie Washington. Sorry. Three, three 3.33 News.
1:43:22
You got some jingles requests right to top Trump is hard to
1:43:26
get it aroused George Bush send your cash and a goat scream.
1:43:31
Greetings fellas. And all of Gitmo Nation. I'm back to kick
1:43:36
the sad puppy with 33333 of treasurer my last donation was
1:43:41
October 28 of last year in keeping with my practice of
1:43:44
setting aside 1% of my gross business revenues for no agenda.
1:43:49
Thank you. It has taken this long to climb out of the student
1:43:52
loan debt I incurred securing my PhD in media deconstruction.
1:44:00
Before Yes, before amassing another executive producer chunk
1:44:05
of change, I received zero help from the Biden installation and
1:44:11
my education debt. So add that to the malarkey spewing from the
1:44:16
firehose of lies. Thank you again for all you do when you
1:44:20
hear from me next, I will be claiming the title of Vi
1:44:23
countered faithfully suppressing your exit strategy 1% at a time
1:44:28
with no federal subsidies, sir Dr. 1% barren of liberal land
1:44:34
and Dixie Washington that was hard
1:44:36
Unknown: to get it aroused and it is hard to get it aroused,
1:44:38
but we got it arrest.
1:44:39
Adam Curry: I know a lot of people want to send blankets or
1:44:42
John C Dvorak: water. Just in your cash.
1:44:45
Unknown: You've got our money.
1:44:48
Adam Curry: Thank you. So Doctor 1% Mine cosmos is in bad
1:44:52
belling? Oh, it's Germany. Bots belling in a bad Bellingen Hey,
1:45:01
Bob belling in in Deutschland Hello, Deutschland. Here's the
1:45:04
half 333 Mine Cosmos Dear John Adam the way don't always share
1:45:08
your perspective on reality I do appreciate and learn from it. No
1:45:12
jingles no karma but please de douche. You've been de deuced
1:45:18
and it goes on to say aloha Lucas aka mine Cosmos PS Sumo is
1:45:25
awesome. Awesome, awesome. And
1:45:30
John C Dvorak: Terena Fuji render Fuji is still going
1:45:34
strong pack okay yeah the Yakuza una ser skip logic and Spring
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Hill, Tennessee 2655 9/65 birthday year in the list and I
1:45:43
beat Medicare donation which refers to Joe Biden is 65 Thanks
1:45:50
for insight and entertainment moving karma requested sir skip
1:45:55
logic in Spring Hill, Tennessee,
1:45:57
Adam Curry: moving karma.
1:45:58
Unknown: You've got karma
1:46:02
Adam Curry: that went to the Executive Associate Executive
1:46:05
producers here with Candace Mae and Nelson British Columbia,
1:46:08
Canada. Navia 233. By
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John C Dvorak: the way, I want to mention this before I forget.
1:46:12
We're moving her that comes out to 320 mugs. I believe she moves
1:46:17
up yep. She's uh, she gets moved up to executive producer.
1:46:20
Adam Curry: Thank you very much, Candace, you will be credited
1:46:22
properly and it's also it's actually a switcheroo because
1:46:25
this donation will be dedicated to Craig seedhouse for his
1:46:28
birthday on July 24. So Craig will receive an executive
1:46:33
producer ship for episode 16 at Happy Birthday Craig thanks for
1:46:36
everything X. Oh, Candice.
1:46:40
John C Dvorak: Casey van heel in Columbus, Ohio, Ohio. To 1060
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Casey van heel here longtime listener first time caller
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mainly because they've screwed up the note every other time for
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person of merit. Okay, may I get a an F cancer karma for it? It's
1:47:13
kind of a take off on Linda Lou patcon may get an FQHC with a K
1:47:18
or the C may I get an F cancer karma from my mother in
1:47:21
remission and my father still in the fight? He's tougher than a
1:47:25
$2 steak. But extra karma love is always appreciated for
1:47:29
jingles. In honor of the moneyed elites. rousting of sleepy Joe
1:47:36
may I request Howard Dean scream? Goat scream F 16 Scream
1:47:41
kept with Joe Biden or JCD I got hairy legs. I dubbed this combo
1:47:47
the song of Baphomet. May this goat throated choir a carry Joe
1:47:53
toward the Valhalla of becoming the answer to the semi difficult
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Trivial Pursuit question. Thank you for everything you do
1:48:00
fellows Casey van heel person of merit PS Adam, could you point
1:48:06
me to where I could find your Pio Box address? I'd hate to be
1:48:10
to deprive the library. Oh, she's got something for you.
1:48:13
Okay, it's
1:48:14
Adam Curry: very easy. It's very easy. It's Pio box 1849 Like the
1:48:18
40 Niners in California 1849 in Fredericksburg, Texas. Oh 78624
1:48:24
Okay, so after you hear the bell remember man a good man ma'am.
1:48:29
That's when you do the hairy leg so standby
1:48:36
Unknown: this I got hairy legs.
1:48:43
You've got
1:48:48
Adam Curry: the song of Baphomet beautiful. Eli the coffee guy
1:48:52
comes in with 207 25 from Bensenville Illinois in the
1:48:55
morning. We are sending this missive from the North Woods,
1:48:57
enjoying nature breathing fresh air and watching Eagles fly
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overhead. I think they soar between the assassination
1:49:04
attempt on dj t and the media being on a full frontal
1:49:07
offensive to shove Kamala down our throats. It's good to take a
1:49:10
break and unplug sometimes nothing like a cold beer while
1:49:13
fishing on a quiet Lake and of course, a hot cup of coffee on a
1:49:16
brisk morning. Can I get travel karma for everyone out there
1:49:19
trying to get away for a mid summer break and visit gigawatt
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coffee roasters.com and use code ITM 20 for 20% off your order
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because a good cup of coffee is a little vacation in itself.
1:49:30
Stay caffeinated says Eli the coffee guy and I would like to
1:49:33
thank him for sending another mini care package including and
1:49:38
this was perfect. Tina ran out of her. Her elite decaffeinated
1:49:43
coffee which she's been drinking decaffeinated for a couple of
1:49:46
months now. And so she gets some elite stuff sent to her and
1:49:49
beans and she grinds it up and yeah, so that she was she came
1:49:54
back from a visit to her, her family in Indiana and And she
1:50:00
was at a coffee and she was really bummed. But just in time,
1:50:04
the care package came and Eli had offered had enclosed some,
1:50:09
some very nice decaf coffee and she loved it. So thank you very
1:50:14
much. saved my bacon.
1:50:16
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: Got a care package from them too, just in
1:50:21
time. I go through about a pound every week. Linda LAPACK hands
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up.
1:50:32
Adam Curry: Now, Jill, oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'll do. I'll
1:50:35
do Jill. You do Linda? Yes, that's fine.
1:50:38
John C Dvorak: There goes the smoothness of the show. 200
1:50:43
bucks. She wants jobs karma. For a competitive edge. Go to Image
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Unknown: jobs,
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jobs and jobs for jobs.
1:51:05
Adam Curry: Oh, well, wouldn't you know what there's Jill
1:51:06
Melcher from Havertown. Pennsylvania $200.60 donation
1:51:11
from Jill Melcher to deduce my husband for his birthday. Oh,
1:51:15
well, okay. You've been de Deus. Now she says. See note sent an
1:51:22
email but I didn't receive anything. John, did you receive
1:51:25
anything? No, I
1:51:26
John C Dvorak: don't get anything. And by the way, if you
1:51:28
guys people are going to send a notes make sure you put donation
1:51:31
in the subject line.
1:51:32
Adam Curry: Now. Do we at least have Jill's husband on the
1:51:35
birthday? No birthdays? Let me see. Yeah, well, we have we have
1:51:40
as your husband, but we'll gladly read your note if you
1:51:44
send it to notes at no agenda. show.net.
1:51:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's your best bet. Now we have Aaron
1:51:53
Moreno in Covina, California. And it was Nadine. From me
1:52:00
actually Cal CAMI Forney as well. He likes to have his Erin
1:52:03
and Nadine from California. Greetings, John and Adams $200.
1:52:08
In addition to the donation please find enclosed Ayaka Zuna
1:52:12
Taro, no Fuji, Toronto footwear and a Fuji towel which he sent
1:52:17
me. It's the knowledge that you have. If you go to the sumo
1:52:20
thing you see people holding up these towels. It's got the guy's
1:52:22
name on that you're a fan of cool, so I got this out.
1:52:25
Dynamite by the way, is a little more colorful than I'd expect.
1:52:30
And a May 2024 tournament programming that the wife and I
1:52:33
picked her wife and I picked up for you. During our recent trip
1:52:37
to Japan being a big sumo fan like John watching top division
1:52:41
sumo in person at the home of the Sumo. Real Goku was one of
1:52:47
the highlights of our three week romp to northern Japan.
1:52:51
Unfortunately, Yokozuna was injured on day two. Yes, he was
1:52:56
he's been a missed two tournaments in a row actually
1:52:58
from URIs. Oh, no. So far. He's Lebanon in one in this
1:53:03
tournament with a couple of days left. And I've come to the
1:53:06
conclusion. I've watched all his matches, that as long as he
1:53:11
doesn't fall, fall down or get knocked down. He'll be fine but
1:53:16
it's an I noticed all the injuries I'm actually concerned
1:53:19
about this all the injuries to the sumo guys is when they get
1:53:23
tossed or they fall off the whole thing is elevate and they
1:53:27
go fallen into the crowd it's they always get injured
1:53:30
Adam Curry: now do the sumo guys actually get picked up and
1:53:33
tossed
1:53:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, wow yeah, there was one get picked up and
1:53:38
tossed. Yeah, wow. Yeah. We had a handle to this morning show
1:53:43
which is last night's tumor. There's a I had locked toss and
1:53:48
the the Ozeki grabbed this guy by the head and flipped and
1:53:52
flipped him up in the air you guys what? 400 pounds or so and
1:53:56
he goes, fallen into the crowd.
1:53:59
Adam Curry: It's amazing. Dangerous you and your sweaty
1:54:02
fat guys. Some interest sweaty fat guys. Yes.
1:54:05
John C Dvorak: But the good news is that he's looking good during
1:54:07
the early stages talking about terreno Fuji in the July
1:54:10
tournament and currently sits at five and Oh, this isn't these 11
1:54:13
to one now. an ephah sumo talk he says. Thanks to the two of
1:54:17
you for all the work you put into the show me you never find
1:54:19
an exit strategy. No jingles No. carnamah?
1:54:22
Adam Curry: No. All right. No, no given you got it. And finally
1:54:25
our final Associate Executive Producer Tiara car, Baltimore,
1:54:29
Maryland. $200. Hello. Hello.
1:54:32
John C Dvorak: I'd like to Baltimore I'd like
1:54:34
Adam Curry: to wish my amazing fiance Alex Schlegel a very
1:54:37
happy 44th birthday on July 30. and donate $200 to no agenda on
1:54:43
his behalf. He has been an avid listener for a long time, and I
1:54:47
hope that he can now be deduced. Well hope no more. You've been
1:54:52
de douche. Thank you so much. Dr. Carr. Thank you to our
1:54:56
record
1:54:56
John C Dvorak: for Switcheroos and you know,
1:54:59
Adam Curry: so that should be Good. Is that a switcheroo?
1:55:02
Yeah, I
1:55:02
John C Dvorak: think so. Okay, well, it
1:55:03
Adam Curry: wasn't actually listed. I think you're on his
1:55:06
behalf. Yeah, it should be a switcheroo. Let me just put that
1:55:09
in there. So nice of you tiara. And he's got a good woman right
1:55:14
there. Good woman and
1:55:17
John C Dvorak: she's named after a crown She's a queen. Yes.
1:55:20
Well,
1:55:21
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Unknown: is this we go out yet people in the mouth
1:56:21
Adam Curry: as you know, speaking of I'm going to lead
1:56:22
you into it speaking of the art, the AI art, there was a very
1:56:28
interesting study that came out. And this is in think Nature
1:56:35
magazine had a report on it. Ai models fed AI generated data
1:56:41
quickly spew nonsense, research money, this is the model
1:56:45
collapse theory, researchers gave successive versions of a
1:56:49
large language model information produced by a previous
1:56:53
generation of the AI and observed rapid collapse. And
1:56:57
this article is worth watching because they show AI art how
1:57:01
within nine generations of of importing information that comes
1:57:07
from a you know that is synthetic comes from AI, the art
1:57:11
actually degrade significantly. And
1:57:16
John C Dvorak: this makes nothing but sense. So here's
1:57:18
Adam Curry: an example of the study authors train their large
1:57:21
language model and Wikipedia articles and train successive
1:57:25
generations of the model on the text produced by the previous
1:57:28
version. prompted to follow on from a paragraph of text from
1:57:32
the Wikipedia entry on grade one listed buildings in Somerset in
1:57:36
the UK, the models output the following text so here's
1:57:39
generation zero. So this is just what from feeding it original
1:57:45
Wikipedia information, which by itself is sketchy. Yeah, here's
1:57:50
here's generation zero Revival architecture such as St. John's
1:57:53
Cathedral in London. The earliest surviving example of
1:57:56
perpendicular Revival architecture is found in the
1:57:59
18th. At sign at sign century church of Our Lady of Guernsey,
1:58:06
which dates from the late 19th century, there are two types of
1:58:09
perpendicular per hyphen perpendicular churches colon
1:58:14
those now we go to generation nine architecture in addition to
1:58:20
being home to some of the world's largest populations of
1:58:22
black at sign at sign tail jack rabbits white at sign at sign
1:58:27
tail jack rabbits blue outside, outside tail jack rabbits, red
1:58:31
at sign outside tail jack rabbits comma yellow at sign. So
1:58:37
this whole nonsense is gonna take care of itself. And the
1:58:40
great thing about it is everything takes care of it's
1:58:43
every generation that you create costs exponentially more to
1:58:50
train the model. So as you spend more money to trains the to
1:58:54
train the model or she gets
1:58:56
John C Dvorak: worse, so the more money you spend, the worse
1:58:59
it gets. Pretty much true. That's an ironic twist.
1:59:02
Adam Curry: I love it. And I'm happy. That means that we'll all
1:59:05
take as you said, it'll all take care of itself.
1:59:11
John C Dvorak: And, and good except for the fact that Darren
1:59:13
O'Neal's on a roll I got the new AI Bs is interesting. This is
1:59:21
new AI BS clips. This is clip one Meadows
1:59:24
Unknown: new artificial intelligence models speaks eight
1:59:27
languages rights higher quality computer code and solves complex
1:59:31
math problems. But at what cost entities Andrew Thomas spoke
1:59:35
with a data scientist to learn more about the impact on users
1:59:38
and regulators. The
1:59:40
rapidly evolving AI industry requires an increasing amount of
1:59:44
data to make strides met his latest tech llama three arrives
1:59:48
us tech companies raised to show off their data hungry language
1:59:51
models. Data Scientist Sidharth Gupta explains that tech
1:59:55
companies do take measures to protect user data but they're
1:59:57
not perfect. Why
1:59:59
companies It is best to anonymize the data set while
2:00:03
using for AI development.
2:00:04
Adam Curry: Oh yes, we try very hard.
2:00:06
Unknown: There could be issues that they have not accounted for
2:00:09
while doing so. And security is obviously a big concern, as I
2:00:13
mentioned, because data breaches are not uncommon. Companies
2:00:17
have been collecting user data for some time. But Gupta says
2:00:21
they need to be clear about their intentions, we
2:00:23
need to account for many different risks in this like
2:00:27
transparency is another big one, like you need to make sure that
2:00:30
users are aware of how their data is used is used. user
2:00:35
consent is another important issue here. Like, are the
2:00:38
companies making sure that they're getting consent from
2:00:41
users before they make use of the data. Okay, I'm
2:00:44
Adam Curry: confused, is, first of all, this isn't they released
2:00:47
this open source this new llama model, which is great, because
2:00:51
you know, no one else can charge for it. I think if if you have
2:00:54
more than 700,000 700 million users, then you have to pay a
2:00:59
license fee. So pretty much everybody can use it. But is he
2:01:02
talking about the model sucking in personal data? Yes,
2:01:08
John C Dvorak: he's worried about that. No kidding. Unless
2:01:11
you give it up your unless you have actually given permission,
2:01:14
which I think is reasonable. Yeah. The trouble is, is going
2:01:20
to suck it up whether you like it or not, especially Western
2:01:23
second up random databases. It's just it's a nightmare for
2:01:27
everybody. Everybody, there's some lawsuits involved, that
2:01:30
will happen eventually. Although they're going to have the the
2:01:33
EULA thing is really the the the problem hit this gotta go, it's
2:01:38
gotta go, it's gotta go.
2:01:41
Unknown: Alright, part two. Gupta emphasizes the vast amount
2:01:45
of data available to tech companies to train their AI
2:01:47
models
2:01:48
vary, they have access to depending on which company is
2:01:51
developing it, and what platform they own. They have access to
2:01:56
almost all of the information that user generates on their
2:01:59
platform, as well as on the open Internet. And so they can
2:02:02
collect all of that while developing this AI and making it
2:02:05
better over time. Gupta
2:02:07
knows that artificial intelligence is outpacing
2:02:09
regulation, he expects the gap to close. But in the meantime,
2:02:13
tech companies will have to balance innovation against user
2:02:16
data protection and privacy.
2:02:19
Adam Curry: Well, which is never gonna happen. Did you happen to
2:02:22
see the Abu Dhabi autonomous Racing League this past weekend?
2:02:27
John C Dvorak: I did not. Oh,
2:02:28
Adam Curry: it was great. So you had these a Phoebe quiet yet
2:02:33
these she doesn't like aI she hates it. So you have these race
2:02:38
cars look very much like the other super formula racers. And
2:02:43
they're there's no driver they drive on AI and you've got to
2:02:48
watch this video because the Olsen the cars are just juking
2:02:52
in the middle of a straightaway you know turning left turning
2:02:54
right. One of them just crashing into the wall you know spinning
2:02:58
out pulling off the track and just stopping yellow flag you
2:03:03
know where you can't you can't be past cars in front of you. So
2:03:06
the so these cars just stopped they just stopped the middle of
2:03:09
the track stop. It was it was fantastic. And then we'll have
2:03:12
one
2:03:12
John C Dvorak: car stops and they said she can't pass it they
2:03:15
will stop no
2:03:16
Adam Curry: but that car the car the cars won't stop. But these
2:03:19
two of these cars just stopped. And and the grid the best thing
2:03:23
is the commentators they're like, well, these cars are
2:03:26
really pushing the edges of science. Now they suck. It was
2:03:30
amazing. And you've got it's like there's a great video it's
2:03:34
in the show notes.
2:03:37
John C Dvorak: The then it must cost a fortune for one of these
2:03:41
cars. Then
2:03:42
Adam Curry: CBS had quite the story on AI in healthcare
2:03:47
because this is one of the real world applications where it's I
2:03:50
mean, it's going to be phenomenal. It's going to it's
2:03:53
going to you know those of you who are pre dead it's gonna save
2:03:56
you from dying is his AI is great Major Garrett has the
2:03:58
story.
2:03:59
Unknown: This spring, Google unveiled a an AI overview
2:04:02
feature where answers from Google's chatbot started to
2:04:06
appear above search results for many health related queries,
2:04:10
just apps, and Google will do the googling for you. sounds
2:04:14
good in theory, in practice, there have been some glitches.
2:04:19
chatbots shared misguided medical advice that was
2:04:22
sometimes comical, sometimes dangerous. In the first week of
2:04:26
this new tools use one user said Google AI gave her tips for what
2:04:31
to do if you get bitten by a rattlesnake that included
2:04:34
sucking out the venom that advice if followed could be
2:04:38
lethal. The AI technology also gave advice on how to get a
2:04:42
week's old baby to eat their vegetables. Physicians say
2:04:46
infants should not eat solid food until after six months of
2:04:50
age. Google AI even recommended eating quote at least one small
2:04:55
rock per day unquote, to increase vitamin and mineral
2:04:59
intake That advice was lifted from an article in the onion, a
2:05:03
well known satirical website. Google says it has limited
2:05:07
inclusion of satire and humor sites and overviews and removed
2:05:11
ones that for the wrong reason went viral oh
2:05:14
Adam Curry: so from now on all AI is going to be humorless Well
2:05:18
that's no good
2:05:19
John C Dvorak: well, you know you can't stop this because a
2:05:21
lot you know, the Babylon B. Nowadays the onion it used to be
2:05:26
this way, but not as much but take the onion, the Babylon B,
2:05:29
they are symbolically viruses. Yeah, that get into the model
2:05:36
and screw it up and kill it, or make you give you tips like
2:05:39
eating a rock. That this is an interesting little twist. No, it
2:05:44
gets better a Google Sam by the way, a lot of the Babylon B and
2:05:47
onion stuff is posted out everywhere. Yeah, you can block
2:05:53
those two sites. But this doesn't mean they're not out
2:05:57
there. I mean, I always I use a Babylon B piece every so often
2:05:59
in my main section of the newsletter, who
2:06:02
Adam Curry: in their right mind thought it would be a good idea
2:06:04
to use the internet as your input source.
2:06:07
John C Dvorak: Commodity with a low budget. A Google
2:06:10
spokesperson
2:06:11
Unknown: tells CBS News for health queries, we've always had
2:06:14
strong quality and safety guardrails in place including
2:06:17
disclaimers that remind people that it's important to seek out
2:06:20
expert advice, but not all of it. CBS News confirmed that some
2:06:25
health misinformation persists on the tool queries about
2:06:30
introducing solid foods to infants under six months old,
2:06:33
still returned tips in late June when we tested it searches on
2:06:37
the health benefits of dubious wellness trends like detoxes or
2:06:41
drinking raw milk included debunked claims Oh, no.
2:06:46
John C Dvorak: Oh, they put the raw milk propaganda in their
2:06:50
Adam Curry: propaganda and more propaganda what that's about?
2:06:53
Yeah, well, let's continue despite
2:06:54
Unknown: the quirks and outright errors, many healthcare leaders
2:06:57
remain optimistic about AI chatbots. In the long run, I
2:07:01
think these technologies are going to do us a lot of good.
2:07:03
One
2:07:04
of them is Dr. Nigam Shaw, chief data scientist at Stanford
2:07:07
healthcare.
2:07:08
When Google Search came around, everybody was like panicking
2:07:10
that you know, his patients will self diagnose, and there'll be
2:07:13
all hell break loose didn't happen. Same thing will go
2:07:16
through that phase with chatbots. That yes, of course,
2:07:18
the new ones that are not fully formed will make mistakes, and a
2:07:21
couple of them will be bad. But by and large, having information
2:07:25
at your disposal when there's no other option is a good thing.
2:07:29
Adam Curry: I mean, just wait until these chat bots start
2:07:33
sucking up their own advice and putting that into the model. I
2:07:37
mean, I predict right now, help desk humans will be a big and
2:07:46
good paying job in the future. People who actually know what's
2:07:51
going on in the company, not just reading a script. And it
2:07:56
will be the differentiator with being named what company people
2:08:02
choose. I can predict it right now.
2:08:05
John C Dvorak: It's not I don't know how much of a prediction it
2:08:07
is because it's been proven to be the case. Generally speaking,
2:08:12
from the days of was that word processor that was bought by
2:08:16
somebody else, it was WordPerfect WordPerfect. The
2:08:20
word processor does your back in the 80s, I guess, late 80s was
2:08:26
always word star. Yeah. And then there was other ones zire,
2:08:30
right. And there's a bunch of these different word processors,
2:08:32
but WordPerfect came along, I think it's not a Utah with the
2:08:35
thesis that customer service, real customer service where you
2:08:39
could call them up if you had any issues at all with
2:08:43
formatting or anything else. And they had banks of people made
2:08:47
started to make WordPerfect the number one word processor, not
2:08:52
because it was the best by any means. It wasn't as far as I'm
2:08:56
concerned. And never but it was had the best customer service
2:08:59
was real people who would talk to you. And it was very
2:09:02
appealing. And I think you're dead. Right? This is what's
2:09:06
missing. You know, you call these things these machines up
2:09:09
and they walk you through a bunch of bull crap to get into a
2:09:13
person to talk to as it's annoying, dude, whether you
2:09:17
could just cut to the chase. I know. Not understanding the
2:09:21
mechanism here necessarily known fact. You know
2:09:25
Adam Curry: what's also annoying? Is these political
2:09:28
text messages. I don't get him. I just got it. JD Vance.
2:09:34
Emergency Broadcast to Deep State raised over a quarter of a
2:09:37
billion dollars for Kamala, my emergency response link stopped
2:09:41
to end. Brother. Oh,
2:09:45
John C Dvorak: that's no good. Adam,
2:09:46
Adam Curry: can I give you a call? It's Donald Trump. I need
2:09:49
your endorsement for the first presidential debate. Oh, that
2:09:51
was June 28. Sorry. That's the same same number. Oh my god. I
2:09:56
mean, they you do start to end and they just text From a
2:10:00
different number it never stops. Anyway, back to Major Garrett,
2:10:03
last clip for him. Hi, I'm Sarah. This
2:10:06
Unknown: is the World Health Organization's chatbot Sara.
2:10:10
Sara pulls information from the World Health Organization and
2:10:13
trusted partners. How can I lower my risk of heart attack
2:10:17
focus on a balanced diet, regular exercise,
2:10:20
but managing stress.
2:10:22
Advocates of chatbots are quick to say that physicians like bots
2:10:26
can make mistakes. Estimates vary, but a 2022 study by the
2:10:31
Department of Health and Human Services found up to 2% of
2:10:35
emergency room patients each year may have suffered harm from
2:10:38
a misdiagnosis with the right design and oversight. Ai
2:10:43
chatbots might one day give better medical advice and reach
2:10:46
more patients in need three ma but if you are turning to an AI
2:10:50
chatbot for health advice today, note the warning that comes with
2:10:54
Google's version. Info quality may vary. Hey,
2:11:00
Adam Curry: that should be on our show. No agenda, info
2:11:04
quality may vary. Info quality may vary, but is that the end it
2:11:13
cost what is an AI query is like 10 to 30 times more expensive in
2:11:18
Compute and energy. This is a disaster. Disaster. I love it.
2:11:28
John C Dvorak: And the result gives us something to complain
2:11:30
about
2:11:30
Adam Curry: all the results are in Sam Altman. It's very
2:11:36
important that we get to AGI very complicated and I stopped
2:11:41
talking. Sam Altman did a universal basic income pilot
2:11:50
test. Because he's convinced that his chat to GPT will put
2:11:58
hundreds of millions of people out of work, so we need to
2:12:01
distribute the wealth evenly. The results are in
2:12:05
Unknown: this morning new insight into whether a universal
2:12:07
basic income could one day be sustainable is from a study
2:12:11
conducted by Sam Altman, the CEO of open AI who has warned about
2:12:15
major job losses across certain industries. As artificial
2:12:18
intelligence grows more powerful. The
2:12:20
speed of the change that may happen here is the part that I
2:12:22
worry about the most.
2:12:24
Altman study gave 1000 low income people $1,000 per month
2:12:27
over a three year period. It was free money, no strings attached.
2:12:31
It's something former presidential candidate Andrew
2:12:33
Yang supported during the 2020 campaigns.
2:12:36
This would create millions of jobs make our children and
2:12:38
families stronger, and give all Americans a better chance to
2:12:42
transition and the economy of the 21st century.
2:12:44
Altman's study found people mostly spent the extra money on
2:12:47
basics such as food, rent and transportation. The largest
2:12:50
increase in their spending was to help family and friends with
2:12:53
their bills. Many people also put money in the bank. On
2:12:56
average with the extra money they worked about one hour less
2:12:59
per week, the research was conducted amid concerns that
2:13:02
artificial intelligence will eventually make millions of jobs
2:13:05
obsolete, leaving many people scrambling to find new ways to
2:13:08
make a living
2:13:09
with every great technological revolution in human history.
2:13:12
Although it has been true that the jobs change a lot. Some jobs
2:13:15
even go away. And I'm sure we'll see a lot of that here.
2:13:18
Critics dismissed the idea of a universal basic income as
2:13:20
unAmerican, comparing it to socialism, saying it would lead
2:13:24
to dependency and suffocate innovation in the economy. But
2:13:27
tech industry titans including Elon Musk, Twitter, co founder
2:13:30
Jack Dorsey, and the so called godfather of artificial
2:13:33
intelligence, Geoffrey Hinton support it.
2:13:35
I'm very worried about AI taking over lots of mundane jobs. And
2:13:43
that should be a good thing. It's going to lead to a big
2:13:45
increase in productivity, which leads to a big increase in
2:13:48
wealth. And if that wealth was equally distributed, that will
2:13:51
be great. So
2:13:53
Adam Curry: they're all full of crap. It doesn't lead to more
2:13:55
productivity people work less. Yeah, I have free money. I don't
2:14:00
think I'll take a day off. This is dumb. Sam Altman, I got to
2:14:07
work on that.
2:14:10
John C Dvorak: My year Gagnaire. Like getting close.
2:14:12
Adam Curry: Like every tech innovation. There's always not
2:14:15
always
2:14:16
John C Dvorak: a lot of gravel. Yeah, often time away jobs.
2:14:21
Adam Curry: Very, we need regulation to protect the
2:14:23
incumbents. And I have a plug in hybrid that costs $30 million.
2:14:27
I'm Sam Altman.
2:14:29
John C Dvorak: Plug in a hybrid, which is what that thing is.
2:14:34
Adam Curry: This is no good. I can't wait for the collapse.
2:14:37
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's no collapse. Yes. All right. It's
2:14:39
coming. What do we have? Oh, I
2:14:44
Adam Curry: have actually, I have a little mini series here.
2:14:50
This is about the pharmacy benefit managers. This is
2:14:56
something that you A Trump worked on you remember that? He
2:15:02
says I'm getting rid of these guys in the middle. The end he
2:15:05
said a lot of people not gonna like it not gonna like what I'm
2:15:08
doing not gonna like it. You remember that? No. Oh, well this
2:15:14
is the problem when people say why is it so expensive in
2:15:18
America? Why is drugs so expensive? Well here are let me
2:15:26
see three clips to from CNBC. The first was NBC because there
2:15:30
was a hearing on the Hill about the pharmacy benefit managers
2:15:36
who are the middlemen who jack up the prices
2:15:38
Unknown: tonight the powerful middlemen managing prescription
2:15:41
drug access for millions of Americans grilled on Capitol
2:15:45
Hill,
2:15:45
people are dying because they can't afford their medication.
2:15:48
And you all are part of the problem. pharmacy
2:15:51
benefit managers or PBMs are responsible for negotiating
2:15:55
pharmacy prices with drug manufacturers. They're being
2:15:58
accused of profiting by inflating drug costs and
2:16:01
squeezing Main Street pharmacies impacting patients. One survey
2:16:05
shows nearly three in 10 Americans have rationed or
2:16:08
skipped doses of prescribed medicines due to high costs,
2:16:12
your
2:16:12
setting dramatically different prices for some medications
2:16:15
across the country. If
2:16:16
you're not delivering an outcome to the people who use it. How
2:16:21
long do you all think you're gonna have a job?
2:16:23
During the heated and complicated bipartisan hearing?
2:16:26
Adam Curry: I feel like the more I hear the less I understand.
2:16:29
Democratic Congressman
2:16:30
Unknown: ro Khanna pointed to the case of a 10 year old girl
2:16:33
who he says needed HUMIRA to treat her juvenile arthritis,
2:16:37
but was denied for six months. But while her arthritis got
2:16:41
worse,
2:16:41
they were saying that the doctor needed to prescribe something
2:16:44
cheaper. Can you make a commitment today that you'll
2:16:46
privilege the doctor's recommendation over the
2:16:50
bureaucracies recommendation?
2:16:52
As a physician, I hope you understand this. We value our
2:16:55
partnership with physicians, executives
2:16:57
from the three largest PBMs responsible for managing access
2:17:00
to nearly 80% of all prescription drugs in the US
2:17:04
pushed back on allegations they drive up prices. Last year
2:17:08
alone, we saved our clients $64 billion. They blame brand
2:17:11
manufacturers who they say raised drug costs up to 60%.
2:17:15
It's hard
2:17:16
work to keep those costs down on patients and clients.
2:17:18
Adam Curry: So that was very cagey report from NBC knowing of
2:17:23
course that they don't really want to bite the hand that feeds
2:17:26
them, but they still had to report on it. As CNBC got a
2:17:30
little bit closer and start off with the explanation that what
2:17:34
these guys really do. They just sit in the middle and they just
2:17:37
drive up the cost the FTC
2:17:39
John C Dvorak: issuing an interim report and its two year
2:17:41
probe into the big pharmacy benefit middlemen was some
2:17:45
damning conclusion. So we were right all along middlemen person
2:17:50
comes joins us now it's more
2:17:51
Unknown: they Bertha. Hey, Joe,
2:17:52
the FTC is interim report argues that pharmacy benefit managers
2:17:56
PBMs have gotten too big and points to the ways that these
2:17:59
middlemen allegedly inflate drug prices allegedly or profits,
2:18:03
like the treatment of specialty drugs, high cost or complex
2:18:06
drugs to treat special conditions. It outlines how the
2:18:09
Big Three PBM CVS Caremark, Cygnus Express Scripts, and
2:18:13
UnitedHealth optim have amped up their sales growth by
2:18:17
designating more and more drugs and specialty pharmaceuticals,
2:18:20
which they then make patients buy at their preferred
2:18:24
pharmacies. One example the report highlights the price of
2:18:27
the generic version of cancer drug Gleevec to treat leukemia
2:18:30
generic and 2022 PBM preferred pharmacies were reimbursed
2:18:34
$2,700 a month for the drugs 40 times the net cost of $66. And
2:18:40
the report cites a quote from a PBM rep admitting to a
2:18:44
consultant that they'd actually designed their plan to, quote
2:18:47
aggressively steer customers to home delivery, where the generic
2:18:51
cost is 200 times higher, over $19,000 Amazon non preferred
2:18:57
outlets like Costco which customers might not go know to
2:19:01
go to charge $97.
2:19:04
Adam Curry: So now that they're just reading the report, but if
2:19:07
you really want to get the full insight on how it works, you got
2:19:11
to go to the One and Only Mr. Big Pharma himself, who of
2:19:14
course sees the cutting out of the middlemen only benefiting
2:19:18
his employers, mainly Pfizer. Scott
2:19:22
Unknown: Gottlieb problem is that the way that the
2:19:24
discounting happens in the marketplace right now, we've
2:19:26
talked about this before, is to back into rebates. So what
2:19:30
happens is the PBMs negotiate with the drug makers to extract
2:19:34
discounts. Those discounts are paid in the form of rebates that
2:19:37
are paid after the transaction takes place. So if you're a
2:19:40
patient, you go to the pharmacy, and there's $1,000 medication
2:19:44
and medications listed $1,000 list price. So take for example,
2:19:47
the weight loss drugs that we've talked about. The PBM might
2:19:50
negotiate with the drug maker for a $500 rebate on that drug.
2:19:54
But when you're at the pharmacy counter, you're going to pay
2:19:56
$1,000 and your insurance insurance gonna pay $1,000 So if
2:19:59
you have a 20 percent copay on the medicine, your copay is
2:20:01
going to be $200. Now later, perhaps six months later, the
2:20:05
drug maker will pay a $500 rebate back to the insurance
2:20:08
company. So the actual cost to the insurance company was $500.
2:20:12
What the drug maker got paid was $500. But the patient paid at
2:20:15
the pharmacy counter was $200. And those rebates when they go
2:20:19
back to the insurance company, the insurance company typically
2:20:22
doesn't give it back to the patient, what they do is use all
2:20:24
those rebates collectively, to pay down the cost of the
2:20:27
premiums. And so there's heavy discounting in the marketplace
2:20:30
driven by the PBMs. But those discounts aren't always flowing
2:20:33
back to the patients who are out of pocket for the cost and
2:20:35
medications. Now, some PBMs like CVS, and others have launched
2:20:39
initiatives to try to get the rebates back to the patient at
2:20:43
the pharmacy counter through their true cost initiative and
2:20:45
other other PBMs are doing this. But employers who are ultimately
2:20:49
responsible for setting those contracts, they like the rebates
2:20:53
because it allows them to offset the costs in their
2:20:56
administration of their health benefit. So they don't often
2:20:59
engage in the contract. So the PBM is where the rebates would
2:21:01
go back to the patient and that's the problem.
2:21:04
Adam Curry: What a scam
2:21:07
John C Dvorak: unbeliever thinks a giant scam. Yeah.
2:21:11
Adam Curry: So it's yes, it's a giant scam. This is really
2:21:16
John C Dvorak: outrageous. It is designed to gouge the American
2:21:19
public. Yep. Yeah.
2:21:24
Adam Curry: So that's why it's so expensive because we're being
2:21:26
scammed. Surprise, bringing meaning.
2:21:34
John C Dvorak: All right, well, thank you for that. You're
2:21:35
welcome. Uplifting report. Well, it's
2:21:39
Adam Curry: this is information quality may vary.
2:21:46
John C Dvorak: Here's an old Kamla Harris clip. Oh, brother,
2:21:49
we're going back to her. Well, just for this clip. No, and I'm
2:21:53
gonna save this clip. Nevermind.
2:21:56
Adam Curry: I know what it is play it because then I can play
2:21:58
something else.
2:22:00
John C Dvorak: That has to do with Kamala Harris. Oh, yeah.
2:22:02
With this particular clip. This is what this is. You're gonna
2:22:08
get she's got so many things out there that she said that are so
2:22:11
stupid. Yeah, that is gonna they're gonna pile them up. And
2:22:15
they're gonna, you know, they. It's ridiculous. And this is one
2:22:18
example. When
2:22:19
Unknown: we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and
2:22:23
reduce population. More of our children can breathe clean air
2:22:28
and drink clean water. This
2:22:30
Adam Curry: is the reduced population Gaff? Or did she mean
2:22:34
Oh, it
2:22:34
John C Dvorak: wasn't a gap. What would be the get what was
2:22:37
she? What was she trying to save? She didn't say renews. Now
2:22:40
she alleges she means that
2:22:42
Adam Curry: we need to reduce population through I guess,
2:22:45
women's health care. I'm not sure what she means. Because
2:22:48
that's all I can conclude from it. Like, hey, if we stop babies
2:22:52
from being born, that's reducing the population. That's that's
2:22:54
part of her agenda. It is And right on cue when it comes to
2:22:59
climate change. As
2:23:01
Unknown: soon as one climate record is broken, another
2:23:03
startling one comes to take its place. According to the EU
2:23:07
climate monitor the Copernicus climate change service, July 21,
2:23:12
was the hottest day on the planet. since records began
2:23:14
being kept in 1940. The global average air temperature was
2:23:18
17.15 degrees Celsius, or 62.87 degrees Fahrenheit. But then
2:23:25
heat record was broken the very following day, making July 22,
2:23:29
the warmest ever and it's not just the day to day that's
2:23:32
ringing alarm bells. It's the wider trend since June 2023.
2:23:36
Every single month has broken the previous year's record, with
2:23:40
Copernicus calling this 13 month streak of unprecedented
2:23:44
temperatures. truly staggering, staggering. Climate watchdogs
2:23:47
fear that the frequency of such records could desensitize people
2:23:51
to the very real and alarming effects of climate change. Even
2:23:55
if in the moment the heat is not easily ignored. Via the current
2:24:00
wildfires in North America. Heat warnings in China typhoons in
2:24:04
Taiwan, or blistering heat waves in Southern and Eastern Europe.
2:24:08
Climate change is making extreme weather come earlier with
2:24:11
increased frequency and making it last longer.
2:24:15
Adam Curry: So Copernicus in in the EU, which is now the new one
2:24:20
that everyone cites who are just a bunch of liars, well, not
2:24:23
really, since records were had been kept in 1945. Really? I
2:24:29
mean, I'm looking here at and it's in the show notes, photos
2:24:33
from 1911 New York, people struggling in deadly heatwave.
2:24:38
So I guess someone had a record of it, where it was 100 degrees
2:24:43
a
2:24:43
John C Dvorak: convenient time to start.
2:24:46
Adam Curry: Correct. And this
2:24:48
John C Dvorak: is a convenient truth. And you
2:24:51
Adam Curry: know, so here's people passed out in Battery
2:24:54
Park. People swimming in the fountain at Madison Square
2:25:00
airpark free shower baths for horses only because the horses
2:25:06
were falling dead. I mean, we've had this in the past terrific,
2:25:12
here we go what is this? This is from 1911 Terrific heat claims
2:25:17
35 more victims 15 drowned in waters around the city. Because
2:25:22
you know people are trying to cool down in as the beautiful
2:25:27
pictures, it's all black and white and just see everyone's
2:25:30
just like, oh my god, it's so hot, and then all passed out.
2:25:34
Battery Park is the best.
2:25:36
John C Dvorak: We got a report that kind of agrees with your
2:25:41
bull crap. Yeah, this is the this is a twofer. This
2:25:45
particular clip. This is about the 2030 Olympics. And it turns
2:25:49
out according to these people, that they're having trouble
2:25:52
finding places to do the Winter Olympics because of climate
2:25:55
change.
2:25:56
Unknown: The International Olympic Committee has approved
2:25:58
the French Alps as host of the 2030 Winter Games. As NPRs Becky
2:26:03
Sullivan reports from Paris, the bid is still subject to approval
2:26:07
by the next French Prime Minister, France was the only
2:26:11
country to bid for the 2030 Winter Games. It's big calls for
2:26:14
some events to be held at ski resorts in the Alps and others
2:26:17
like figure skating to be held at arenas in Nice. The vote
2:26:21
comes as finding host cities for the Winter Games has grown more
2:26:23
challenging. Climate change has shrunk the number of realistic
2:26:27
hosts. French President Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday that
2:26:30
France is committed to continuing the tradition. We do
2:26:33
believe in the future of Winter Games. We do believe in the
2:26:37
future. The
2:26:39
2030 games he said could represent a new sustainable
2:26:42
model for how the Winter Olympics could look going
2:26:44
forward. If the bid is approved this fall by the new French
2:26:47
Prime Minister, Becky Sullivan, NPR News, Paris.
2:26:51
Adam Curry: I don't much care of do believe I don't care much for
2:26:53
any of the agenda but just for President Trump calling out the
2:26:59
green hoax. It's worth it. Stop this nonsense this boondoggle
2:27:06
this. sigh up this this gaslighting. It's
2:27:12
John C Dvorak: been going on just amazing how long has gone
2:27:14
on since before? I mean, it broke down at climate gate,
2:27:18
which we covered extensively. Yes. On the show. 16. Yeah. And
2:27:23
it just keeps going even with that involved even with the
2:27:26
fakery and the bull crap and the phony baloney numbers and
2:27:29
everybody who's spots the flaws. Never just keeps going with for
2:27:34
some
2:27:34
Adam Curry: reason it was 78 degrees yesterday here. And
2:27:38
maybe the hottest day on record, but Texas is beautiful. We got a
2:27:41
great summer here. So no, and then okay, this this is a
2:27:48
topper, a topper of all nonsense. It's not
2:27:52
Unknown: just daylight savings. The Mesa days feel longer and
2:27:54
new research is showing that climate change is actually
2:27:57
having an impact on the length of our days. The National
2:27:59
Academy of Sciences says that ice sheets melting at the
2:28:01
Earth's poles are redistributing the mass of the planet's
2:28:05
surface. Water from the ice is now moving toward the equator,
2:28:09
slowing the rotation of the earth and resulting in
2:28:12
milliseconds being added to every day. experts worry if that
2:28:18
increase continues. It'll eventually impact how we measure
2:28:21
time.
2:28:23
Oh, police
2:28:28
winds
2:28:30
Adam Curry: the days are getting longer because of climate
2:28:33
change. This charge go into our job to buy battery Margaret. We
2:28:39
I don't want to ruin our days. This unbelievable. There's a lot
2:28:44
of bullcrap news, I got a couple of me just to roll them out
2:28:49
researchers
2:28:50
Unknown: from meals, Waldo cruise foundation tested 13
2:28:53
sharpnose. Sharks, small species little threats to humans who run
2:28:57
the waters off Rio de Janeiro. All 13 were found to have high
2:29:01
levels of cocaine in their system. In fact, concentrations
2:29:05
were up to 100 times higher than previously reported in other
2:29:09
aquatic creatures, which researchers say is having a
2:29:12
harmful impacts on the eyesight, hunting skills, and overall life
2:29:16
expectancy.
2:29:18
Adam Curry: What I find so odd is that shark week ended two
2:29:22
weeks ago on Discovery Channel. All of this stuff is coming
2:29:26
late. Can't you can't do shark stories after shark week is
2:29:30
over.
2:29:31
John C Dvorak: I'm all in with you. Absolutely they dislike
2:29:35
these latest stories that came in because of the Trump shooting
2:29:39
and in the CrowdStrike issues and pushed off the stories but
2:29:44
they feel obliged like I do with some of the clips. I've just
2:29:47
been playing a good point. The clip out of the way.
2:29:51
Adam Curry: I haven't I haven't asked JCD Oh, that's rare. Yes,
2:29:56
I haven't asked JCD and I'm going to give you the question.
2:30:00
First, a seventh grader from Bell Elementary School spelled
2:30:03
it out this afternoon to secure her spot at the Scripps
2:30:05
Unknown: National Spelling Bee
2:30:06
Better you than me. She
2:30:08
competed against dozens of other kids at the citywide Spelling
2:30:11
Bee championship. Okay.
2:30:14
Adam Curry: Even though the host of this television news program
2:30:17
cannot even spell it or pronounce the word himself. What
2:30:21
do you think the winning word was? For this young child to go
2:30:25
to the National Spelling Bee? What word would you put out
2:30:30
there into the spelling bee? As a winning question
2:30:35
John C Dvorak: antidisestablishmentarianism.
2:30:39
Adam Curry: Not even close.
2:30:40
Unknown: The winning word was a noun mio chi
2:30:44
carditis
2:30:46
I was so close
2:30:48
Adam Curry: myocarditis who would have thought
2:30:55
John C Dvorak: and they couldn't pronounce it.
2:30:57
Adam Curry: Isn't that weird though? What a word to choose.
2:31:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, wonder why
2:31:05
Adam Curry: more gaslighting, more gaslighting. It's all
2:31:09
here's
2:31:10
John C Dvorak: an interesting story. This is about the
2:31:11
atheists talked about this the other day about the drones but
2:31:14
here's an ATC do you know about the air traffic controllers
2:31:17
having now they finally getting rest.
2:31:22
Adam Curry: They don't deserve it. They can smoke weed on their
2:31:24
break.
2:31:25
Unknown: Another airport public safety issue is being resolved
2:31:28
air traffic controllers will be getting longer rest breaks
2:31:31
between shifts. The
2:31:33
Federal Aviation Administration announced longer rest breaks for
2:31:37
air traffic tower workers. A scientific panel assess the risk
2:31:40
of fatigue and recommended 10 to 12 hours between shifts in the
2:31:44
2025 contract agreement between the FAA and the national air
2:31:49
traffic controllers Association tower workers will get 10 hours
2:31:53
off between shifts. Those who work at midnight will have 12
2:31:57
hours off before and after the shift. The agreement also
2:32:01
includes fewer in successive overtime assignments. Union
2:32:05
chief rich Santa says air traffic controller fatigue has
2:32:08
been an issue for years. He believes the New Deal quote will
2:32:12
begin to provide relief to the understaffed workforce. The FAA
2:32:17
has already had to reduce the number of flights in New York
2:32:20
and Florida because of the lack of controllers to help ease the
2:32:24
shortage. FAA administrator Mike Whittaker says the agency plans
2:32:28
to hire no more than 1500 controllers this year. That was
2:32:33
Adam Curry: always the plan. If you recall, we have quite a few
2:32:37
air traffic controllers to do amongst our producing audience.
2:32:41
And what I've understood from them is all right, they just
2:32:44
want more money to hire people. They just want more money. And
2:32:48
they will check in with me again of course and let us know if
2:32:52
that is still true. But yeah, congratulations, more money for
2:32:56
everybody longer breaks, get a vacation. I'm happy for them.
2:33:00
Who's gonna argue about no one's going to argue about that more
2:33:03
dei hires is going to be dynamite. Well, that'll
2:33:05
John C Dvorak: be the issue.
2:33:07
Adam Curry: That's the next issue. Dame Christina Pearl, who
2:33:11
is one of our many flight attendants. She is I think 27
2:33:15
years with Southwest sent me this very, very sad for her
2:33:19
happy because she likes it. I'm very sad about this particular
2:33:23
news item.
2:33:24
Unknown: A huge shift and over 50 years say goodbye to
2:33:27
Southwest's open seating. Are you kidding me the airline
2:33:30
announcing this morning is getting rid of it and will offer
2:33:33
extra legroom seats starting next year. It will also start
2:33:37
overnight flights in February. This is the airline's faces
2:33:41
mounting pressure to increase revenue
2:33:43
and that's one of the appeals
2:33:45
of Southwest
2:33:46
democratic approach. Oh, but
2:33:50
I can't imagine
2:33:52
you have to train for it. Yeah, just stress and trying to get
2:33:56
into the a group of boarding you have to like at four hours in
2:34:00
advance.
2:34:00
Yes, do it right.
2:34:02
You set an alarm on your phone you're like please universe
2:34:05
remove
2:34:05
me today. Just like the rest Oh,
2:34:08
yes.
2:34:09
Please assign me a seat. It's okay
2:34:11
to be like to do what's normal. I feel like sometimes
2:34:16
he throws elbows I'm sure yeah,
2:34:20
Adam Curry: I'm very sad about this. I love the whole southwest
2:34:23
open seating you boarding process. I think it's a bad
2:34:26
idea. I predict the end of the airline. This is
2:34:30
John C Dvorak: well the airline is just gonna become another
2:34:32
another. Yeah, like everyone else Airlines is no good. I
2:34:36
agree. I you know, the way it used to be was a fabulous way of
2:34:41
doing it. Herb
2:34:42
Adam Curry: is rolling over in his grave.
2:34:45
John C Dvorak: I can't it's one of those things you know where
2:34:47
the original CEO just really Stoli I,
2:34:50
Adam Curry: but I know why they're doing well. I know where
2:34:52
they're doing it. I know why they're doing it. Because, you
2:34:55
know, as we know, they run the whole airline on a Commodore 64
2:34:59
Which is why they had No issue during the CrowdStrike outage
2:35:03
are very little issues, certainly not internally, they
2:35:06
have to justify the upgrade of their systems. So the way you do
2:35:11
that as well, we're going to change the way we do it we have
2:35:14
to do we're going to do bookings now you can book your seat. So
2:35:17
we're gonna have to, we have to upgrade our software, it's going
2:35:20
to be $10 billion hit to the object don't worry about whose
2:35:24
John C Dvorak: way of making more money this is a way of
2:35:26
losing money, they're gonna lose money and
2:35:29
Adam Curry: it'll be $10 billion will be some astronomical
2:35:32
amount. And probably these bean counters who are running I would
2:35:35
say they're gonna get sold some bill of goods on some AI booking
2:35:39
system which is gonna suck
2:35:41
John C Dvorak: Well, that'd be great
2:35:42
Adam Curry: with chat bots that tell you know, give you bad
2:35:46
information. I think is the end of have a great of herbs cattle
2:35:50
car. It was a great idea. And it also opens up an opportunity at
2:35:55
think there's a new opportunity for a new airline that comes in
2:35:58
and does it right.
2:36:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree. That did the model is broken. It
2:36:06
was they do this the model is broken for Southwest now. It's
2:36:09
just another just another airline just like everyone else
2:36:12
would probably be susceptible to the same CrowdStrike outage as
2:36:15
everyone else.
2:36:18
Adam Curry: I have bad news for you. Well, not really kind of
2:36:20
half bad news, but you're probably on deck next. Christian
2:36:25
nationalism has long been associated with white
2:36:28
evangelicals. Now, Catholics are emerging. As some of Christian
2:36:33
nationalisms, most muscular champions. Soon it will be
2:36:36
lapsed Catholics. Yeah.
2:36:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right. All those lapsed Catholics out
2:36:43
there. Signs a protest,
2:36:46
Adam Curry: right? Yep. Yep, old white men. That's right. That's
2:36:49
right old white Catholics who have lapsed, you're going to be
2:36:51
in trouble. But I say this, of course lead into a report from
2:36:58
the Oklahoma State Superintendent. As you recall,
2:37:02
there was quite the fractious about requiring the Bible in
2:37:07
schools. And he listened to the show and took our advice, John,
2:37:12
how
2:37:12
Unknown: to apply the Christian Bible to the Oklahoma classroom
2:37:15
and a five page document sent out by state superintendent Ryan
2:37:18
Walters Wednesday morning, teachers now have clear steps on
2:37:20
how they're supposed to do exactly that. This comes almost
2:37:23
a month after Walters announced the requirement at the last
2:37:26
Board of Education meeting, every
2:37:28
school district will adhere to wishes that every teacher every
2:37:31
classroom state will have a Bible in the classroom, that
2:37:35
will be teaching from the Bible in the classroom, to ensure that
2:37:40
this historical understanding is there for every student in the
2:37:44
state of Oklahoma,
2:37:44
Walter says there to be applied this school year, which is just
2:37:47
weeks away for several districts. It applies the Bible
2:37:50
towards three areas of the classroom for upper elementary,
2:37:53
middle school and high school levels. Those three are
2:37:56
historical contexts literary significance, and artistic and
2:37:59
musical influence. Here's what Walters told me two weeks ago
2:38:02
about why the Bible should be applied in the classroom
2:38:05
in the standards, it talks about the Mayflower Compact, it talks
2:38:07
about natural rights, it talks about the faith of some of the
2:38:09
founders and individuals throughout our history. Well, if
2:38:12
you don't include that in a history curriculum and its
2:38:14
historical context, that's academic malpractice and
2:38:18
Adam Curry: academic malpractice. Exactly. And your
2:38:21
history lesson perfect maulin Good idea. I think recommend me
2:38:28
John C Dvorak: it's gonna be abused in a very negative way.
2:38:32
Adam Curry: What in schools? I don't think so. Yeah, you'll
2:38:35
see. There's the lapsed Catholic. Thank God. He he jumps
2:38:40
out? I don't think so. It's gonna be by abused.
2:38:46
John C Dvorak: I mean, it will be it will be ridiculed. Oh, no,
2:38:49
Adam Curry: of course, it will be ridiculed. Now, of course,
2:38:51
there's separation of church and state. No, good. We need the
2:38:55
Koran in there. See, do you have anything I think? Oh, I did want
2:39:04
to mention one thing, because I think you have a couple of
2:39:06
Netanyahu clips. I certainly have one I have one. Well, let's
2:39:11
play your clip. And then I have some thoughts on the overview
2:39:13
John C Dvorak: clip from NTD.
2:39:15
Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed a
2:39:18
joint session of Congress for the fourth time today, the first
2:39:21
foreign leader ever to do so. He thanked the US for its support
2:39:25
and made the case for why the US should keep supplying Israel
2:39:29
with tools to fight Hamas. Some lawmakers including Vice
2:39:32
President Kamala Harris chose not to attend while others
2:39:35
showed strong support for Netanyahu. And while Netanyahu
2:39:39
delivered his address protesters took to the streets surrounding
2:39:43
the Capitol. Both pro Palestine protesters and pro Israel
2:39:46
counter protesters swarmed the area with some demanding
2:39:50
Netanyahu is arrest and others demanding the immediate release
2:39:54
of hostages held by Hamas. Yeah, I
2:39:57
Adam Curry: have a similar version from CBS
2:40:01
Unknown: 1000s of raucous protesters converging at the
2:40:04
capitol this afternoon some burning an American flag. It's
2:40:07
peaceful protests and an effigy of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
2:40:12
Inside the Capitol, the Israeli leader took them on
2:40:15
yet incredibly Mandi, many anti Israel protesters. Many choose
2:40:21
to stand with evil. They stand with Hamas,
2:40:25
who urged the joint meeting of Congress to continue backing the
2:40:28
war and his country's efforts to free the hostages. Though he's
2:40:31
been unable to reach a ceasefire deal to bring them home.
2:40:34
We're not only protecting ourselves, we're protecting you.
2:40:38
Netanyahu compared the October 7 attack to Pearl Harbor and
2:40:41
argued enemies of America, including Iran have targeted
2:40:44
Israel with sights set on the US.
2:40:47
Our fight is your fight, and our victory will be your victory.
2:40:54
He defended his nation's prosecution of the war as the
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death toll nears 40,000 many civilians and Gaza faces extreme
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food shortages.
2:41:02
If there are Palestinians in Gaza who aren't getting enough
2:41:05
food. It's not because Israel is blocking it. It's because Hamas
2:41:09
is stealing it.
2:41:10
political tensions pulsed through the audience, Michigan
2:41:13
Democrat Rasheeda to leave held a sign which read war criminal,
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I will not rest. Dozens of congressional Democrats
2:41:20
boycotted the address. I
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think it's important not to legitimize a leader who has
2:41:26
attacked democracy, as
2:41:28
Netanyahu who spoke protesters in Tel Aviv, booed his speech
2:41:31
has played live on television.
2:41:35
Adam Curry: So his main theme was, hey, I'm really protecting
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you. So there's, you know, you don't have to have your boots on
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the ground here. Of course, he had a nice little joke about the
2:41:45
gays for Gaza. Some
2:41:47
Unknown: of these protesters hold up signs proclaiming gays
2:41:51
for Gaza. They might as well hold up signs saying chickens
2:41:54
for KFC,
2:41:56
Adam Curry: I was good. I was pretty good. It was a little
2:42:01
disturbing, though, to see the destruction of property spray
2:42:06
painting monuments,
2:42:08
John C Dvorak: which is just as illegal as a felony, but they
2:42:11
don't do anything about it.
2:42:12
Adam Curry: No. And they're just like walking around like, Oh,
2:42:14
it's okay. I can just I can just spray paint Gaza, Gaza. They
2:42:19
took down American flags, burn them and then hoisted
2:42:22
Palestinian flags, which there may be some something about
2:42:25
that. That's not entirely legal. But here's what I think will
2:42:29
happen. You know, Trump is receiving net not Netanyahu at
2:42:34
Mar a Lago on Friday. He also sent out on truth, social. A
2:42:41
very nice note he got from Muhammad Abbas, from the ages of
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the Palestinian Authority, President of the Palestinian
2:42:49
Authority that said, hey, Donald, sorry about the
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assassination. Glad you're okay. And he put on his with Big Magic
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Marker Mahmoud. It's okay. It's all gonna be good. See you soon
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best Donald. I predict an October surprise which may come
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early. If I think that Trump will negotiate a peace deal, it
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will be recognized as his deal violation
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John C Dvorak: of the Logan Act
2:43:25
Adam Curry: either by Netanyahu or a boss or both. And I think
2:43:30
this is a huge Gambit. He's going to play. I don't know if
2:43:32
he's going to do it earlier than October. But this would be the
2:43:35
one I mean, and he'll get some hostages back. I mean, boy,
2:43:38
Reagan, anybody. Hey, let's get the hostages back. I can see it,
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you can just see it see his mind thinking I can I can make Bibi
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stop doing this. I can make my move to hand over some hostages.
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John C Dvorak: But first, I think the meaning is going to be
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to get assurance that the war goes past the Democratic
2:44:02
National Convention. Yes.
2:44:04
Adam Curry: I mean, of course, we've got to don't want to do
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that. Oh, no, no, no, we don't want to do that. No, of course
2:44:09
not.
2:44:11
John C Dvorak: So there'll be a nice riot in Chicago. And a lot
2:44:15
of heads cracked by the well, the Chicago Police, as brutal as
2:44:19
they were in 1968. But it still should be a lot of destruction.
2:44:24
Adam Curry: Now, let's see, the Logan Act criminalizes
2:44:27
negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign
2:44:31
government by an unauthorized American citizen. So I don't
2:44:35
think it pertains to that point. So you know, yelling, the Logan
2:44:39
Act may not work in that case.
2:44:41
John C Dvorak: They're yelling it already.
2:44:42
Adam Curry: Well, they're wrong because we're not agree. We have
2:44:46
no, I
2:44:46
John C Dvorak: didn't realize it had to involve US policy. Not
2:44:50
just involve US policy, not necessarily us involved.
2:44:53
Adam Curry: Well, we just heard from the President that America
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is not any worse. Yeah, so he's right. When he said and Zelinsky
2:45:01
is also already talking, yeah, well, we've got to cope with the
2:45:05
peace plan. Do you see that mean? It's very funny to mean,
2:45:10
that looks like the the alert screen of Joe Biden cell phone.
2:45:15
And it has missed call, like 52 missed calls from Zelinsky. And
2:45:20
then he texts. Let me see I have it here. And he texts. Hey, I'm
2:45:26
still gonna get my money, right. I'm really worried.
2:45:29
John C Dvorak: I just see that.
2:45:30
Adam Curry: I'm scared. Please answer. Yeah. That's fantastic.
2:45:36
Yeah. Yeah.
2:45:37
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you're warming up to the memes.
2:45:40
Adam Curry: I think what?
2:45:42
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I thought I was gonna say I think
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they're going to be a major part of the upcoming presidential
2:45:47
campaign.
2:45:48
Adam Curry: Just say it again. I think I'm glad you're warming up
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to the memes.
2:45:52
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you're warming up to the memes.
2:45:55
Unknown: I'm going to show my load by Jonah.
2:45:58
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
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Adam Curry: made up for my my Linda Lou patcon. That gaff
2:46:11
earlier Yeah. Nice. Nice and slick, John slick, slick, slick,
2:46:15
slick. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Okay. All right. Everybody can edit that you can
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edit that out sound like a winner. sounds smooth as silk.
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Hola.
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you can actually make good wine but they can't because they
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can't find a good winemaker. They won't pay him enough money.
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So they moved to Texas where they make lousy wine there
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instead. That makes sense. Now there's
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Adam Curry: What emails do you send him? What do you ask him?
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Maybe maybe your questions as wrong as
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I don't think we were started.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, we've discussed Seinfeld. We've
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VT might be funny because it's it's life imitating Allah by the
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John C Dvorak: No, Camela is the name because it sounds like
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then there's Kamala, which and then Kim Maula there's four
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Adam Curry: Shouldn't we just call her vice president Harris?
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What I mean everyone everyone's like Trump Biden. Why not
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Harris?
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John C Dvorak: Okay, Harris is good Harris. I
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Adam Curry: think it's better we have to look at some ISOs we
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concept.
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Adam Curry: Let me try my three on you. And then you'll, you'll
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give us Okay, here we go. This is my first one. It's fantastic.
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little teeny little teeny. This one this next one I think is too
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long
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Unknown: and the F is for
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Adam Curry: I don't like the music too much noise in the
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back. I think this one
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Unknown: useful areas. That one I like so
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John C Dvorak: cute. So I have three ADO first one by way you
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have to look it up as I put in a hit a and said it so it's ay ay
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oh. And these are all the same basically done by different
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people saying thank you. And I have the first one which is Ay
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ay OTT. Thank you t y. And I don't know what this means.
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Thank you. Okay.
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Adam Curry: Wow, big lead in for that bummer.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I guess. oversold it. Yeah. Now here's
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the ISO. Thank you, Britt. Thank you.
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Adam Curry: So short, I'm hoping this Last one is the winner. The
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John C Dvorak: last one is longer. And this is the this is
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the sexy girl.
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Unknown: Thank you. Thank you. Thank
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John C Dvorak: you. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: you got a winner right there.
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John C Dvorak: You get a little little you know what that's
3:05:17
called? And some women can do it though. Thank
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Adam Curry: you. What is that called? It's called? It does. I
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John C Dvorak: don't know. Does it have a name? Does anyone out
3:05:24
there know what that's called? When they Little?
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Unknown: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
3:05:30
Adam Curry: It's a flirt. I'm just gonna call that a flirt. I
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think it's a little it's an audible flirt. I think it's all
3:05:37
about flirting. Now it's time for the real deal, John step.
3:05:47
Unknown: JC
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and sometimes Adam,
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Adam Curry: the segment is still on, we could not be happier it
3:05:53
is John C DeVore. X of the day. This
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John C Dvorak: one is actually a real tip. Because it's about PG
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Tips.
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Adam Curry: Ah, PG Tips, your favorite tea.
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John C Dvorak: You can just want to tell people if you ever drink
3:06:09
if you like to drink British tea or like the you know, if you're
3:06:11
a tea drinker and drink tea all the time, you should buy the big
3:06:14
giant boxes of this stuff. And your best bet is you can get 240
3:06:18
of these things on Amazon, typically sent from England even
3:06:24
though I think they've changed where you're getting it from
3:06:25
now. But you can buy like a lot of PG Tips for first 18 to $20.
3:06:34
on Amazon, you buy the big, big boxes and don't buy the rest of
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the does. The real tip is don't buy the restaurant version of PG
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Tips that come in because the bag of tea is actually smaller.
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I don't know why.
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Adam Curry: I you know, I've stopped. I'm trying to stop
3:06:54
buying from Amazon.
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Unknown: Well, good luck.
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Adam Curry: No, I think I have one that can be done. I have a
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John C Dvorak: second tip. Well, you I want you to keep that up.
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Okay, I have a second tip which is Don't send me ideas for tips
3:07:09
that aren't really tips. It's a bonus tip. Some guy sent me a
3:07:14
lengthy I want to do tips. I think we should do a tip segment
3:07:17
we can do a tip website. And he says good example. And he gives
3:07:21
me a process not a tip at all. But a process for cleaning
3:07:25
dishes and how to put them in the dishwasher. And it's like 10
3:07:28
steps. This is not a tip.
3:07:32
Adam Curry: My tip is skip the dishwasher. Just wash them by
3:07:35
hand because when you use a dishwasher, you're handling the
3:07:39
dishes twice.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, there you go. Okay, that's Adams tip.
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Don't use a dishwasher. Don't
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Adam Curry: use a dishwasher. That is my
3:07:49
Unknown: tip for the day.
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Adam Curry: My tip is sending Tip of the Day jingles please.
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We need some Tip of the Day jingles. Oh, there you go.
3:07:59
Everybody. I think we brought you up to speed. your amygdala
3:08:03
should be a normal size. Now we've scrubbed it clean. Don't
3:08:06
worry about it. Everybody stay calm. We'll be back on Sunday.
3:08:10
It's all going to be good. We have a couple of end of show
3:08:15
mixes coming up. We have Q Allison with a very funny one
3:08:20
Kamala one DS laughs and the clip custodian himself. Neal
3:08:24
Jones checks in he had time to do a mix. We appreciate that.
3:08:28
Coming up next if you're listening at troll room.io The
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no agenda stream we have the MO facts with Adam curry podcast
3:08:36
episode number 99. Get it now while stocks last only one more
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before the series ends. And that's it. It's all done. And we
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will return to your regularly scheduled programming right
3:08:50
after the dare no rock'n'roll show on Sunday. We'll do it live
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coming to you from the heart that Texas Hill Country here in
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Fredericksburg, Texas FEMA Region number six. Indeed. I
3:09:01
love it here in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
3:09:04
John C Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley,
3:09:05
California. I'm Josie Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Stay tuned for Sunday show. Remember us at no
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agenda donations.com Until that adios mofos a hui Hui. And such
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John C Dvorak: Yes, here's the deal. Give me Give me Give me
3:09:21
the whole load Kamla Harris looks terrible. She has a number
3:09:24
of problems that to me still looks more like Botox than
3:09:26
anything except for the fact that I had to notice this the
3:09:29
last time I looked at these horrible pictures and I kept
3:09:31
dozing off in the computer so I put that picture Kamla Harris,
3:09:35
look at it. Just wide awake. So works. Got
3:09:41
Unknown: a black lid makes perfect sense. Got a back that
3:09:47
you might want to know that's just reasonable. We got black
3:09:53
dogs I can't.
3:09:55
I will give the United States Congress 100 day back
3:09:59
act got Democrats
3:10:03
to get their act together.
3:10:04
She got a spell on
3:10:07
and if they fail to do it, God spell baby then I will take
3:10:12
executive action. She got
3:10:14
a spell on baby to sue us they can see it's
3:10:20
intense.
3:10:22
But this back at Kanuma she came AC and JCD
3:10:27
I will take executive action takes one look at her he's
3:10:30
John C Dvorak: gonna jump just away. I do want to have her
3:10:32
picture on the screen. Biden is being pressured with joy Reid
3:10:35
had him on her show and she was demanding Are you going to now
3:10:40
just now in the net right now tell us that you will be
3:10:43
nominating a black woman a black man by the way, which has to be
3:10:49
a black woman because Biden is going to pick a woman which is
3:10:52
stupid Why do you claim anything dummy
3:10:55
Unknown: has to figure out how it has to get through it's
3:11:00
thought that you're going to have to use propaganda to
3:11:06
shock us
3:11:07
make us think side everything these days the brand I mean, why
3:11:10
not? As a kid all you needed was a Washington State and a rubber
3:11:14
band hit him in the mouth trolls we understand. Lawyer liar
3:11:18
sounding similar to beat Trump is doing material getting
3:11:21
better. Randy's rowdy was comedy while he posted 50k buffering
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Biden struggles to read the prompter or even walk away when
3:11:29
newcomer trading cards just make a man of tees. There's a
3:11:32
lifeguard shortage in NYC please there's a lifeguard shortage and
3:11:38
Mayor Adams and why seniors people hide their private
3:11:41
security plan to join survey patrol the pours that's where
3:11:44
you will meet this batch of digital bees drone in Melton the
3:11:47
noise drone assistance program will be given to our girls and
3:11:50
boys emerging tech will be used for crowd control breaking up
3:11:54
their protests or feeling grotesque is that really is a
3:11:56
gold money toxin be as runs a marathon SATs been jacking
3:12:00
Toronto now looking good what is over video on
3:12:04
and Huawei elaborate on that I'm not being excited I definitely
3:12:09
believe it but in what ways I'd love to hear about that
3:12:16
and I told Brock if if if I read something where there's a
3:12:21
fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle I'll
3:12:28
I'll I'll develop
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some disease and say after resigned after resigned say
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after resign, say after his I resigned
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after resigned I
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have developed some diseases or develop some disease and develop
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some diseases some diseases sure after resign.
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thank you. Thank you. Thank you
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