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Unknown: Okay? Adam curry.
John C Dvorak, Sunday,
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Episode 1685,
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Unknown: buzzkill, in the
morning,
Adam Curry: I spent a
significant time looking at that
yesterday, that at the throngs
of people?
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
more than one or two examples.
Adam Curry: Here's the only
thing. I cannot find, any
evidence the Harris campaign has
actually posted any of these
pictures. Seems to me that
people are making them and then
saying, Look what they posted. I
John C Dvorak: Does that include
the airplane one? Yes, which is
my favorite?
Adam Curry: Yeah, the airplane.
I found the origin of the
airplane one. It's an AP
picture, and the way it was done
is there, I guess the hair,
they're copying everything, the
Harris campaign, Harris waltz,
hey, waltz campaign.
John C Dvorak: Harry balls,
Harry,
Adam Curry: there you go. Harry
balls, they're, um, they're
doing hanger appearances. So it
was a shot that was cry. It was
a shot from the back of a hangar
was cropped. And that, by
itself, already gives an
illusion that people are all the
way up to the plane, and then,
you know, I there's probably
some other stuff put in there,
but I what I can. I did Google
image. I tried everything I
could. I couldn't find any
evidence that the Harris
campaign, the Harry ball's
campaign, actually posted that
picture. That's my problem with
it.
John C Dvorak: I haven't done
that research, and I think a lot
of this stuff eventually
originated on Facebook, so you'd
have to go to Facebook to do
this, and you don't
Adam Curry: do that. No, that's
a good point. That's a good
point. Some, some producers,
have been looking for me, and
they they haven't got much
further than the AP picture
either, although it doesn't look
like the AP picture has been
doctored, but there's a lot of
shenanigans going on. There's,
you know, they're doing
appearances in, you know, at
free concerts with a bunch of,
you know, with some Spotify
Latino star, and then they'll do
a little pre game. So yeah, but
ultimately, it's kind of
working, because I think Trump
is responding, oh, that's not
true. It's fake, yeah. So
they're kind of getting under
his skin with all this nonsense,
but that's
John C Dvorak: a meme. What's
the I'm not absolutely sure
they're getting under his skin,
but I keep hearing that on CNBC
and Yeah, well, now our CNN and
MSNBC that he's getting under
skin. In fact, today, that guy,
Steele, the black guy, who used
to be a
Adam Curry: Republican, he used
to be the head of the Republican
Party, yeah, which
John C Dvorak: was a sign of a
bad sign, says he never was a
Republican. It seems now he is
the substitute host for Jen
suckey. Well,
Adam Curry: of course, he's
always, he's always on MSNBC. He
does that. He does Sunday
mornings with Robin Sanders. He
used to run the the Bernie
campaign. Oh yeah, he's always
on that show.
John C Dvorak: So he's, he was
on this morning, going on and on
about us getting under Trump's
skin. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay, well, it's I
thought he had responded to the
to the crowd size. I don't have
proof of that. I do have proof
of them saying that. And of
course, now that you mentioned
it, I guess that right away we
have to discredit it. Here's
here's a joy Reid.
Unknown: I want to play this lie
that Donald Trump did in his
string of lies yesterday, that
Adam Curry: string of lies show
title already everybody
Unknown: sundowning press
conference that he did. This is
a story he told about Willie
Brown. Shouldn't it be
Adam Curry: the necklace of lies
or something? I mean, string of
lies. Let's keep it there. Oh
yeah, this is the Willie Brown
story. This is funny, and
Unknown: I want you all to note
that he talked about Willie
Brown. All right, take a listen.
I
know Willie Brown very well. In
fact, I went down in a
helicopter with him. We thought
maybe this is the end. He told
me terrible things about her.
Okay, that's not who he meant.
Trump was never in a helicopter
Willie Brown. Willie Brown came
out with a statement. He laughed
when he heard Trump's
allegations that he's nothing
but respect and admiration for
Kamala Harris for vice
president. Harris, Willie Brown
says he looks forward to
electing her to be the
president. Says the debate will
probably be unfair, because he
has because Trump is so inept,
the brown that he meant was
Jerry Brown. Jerry Brown, who
was the governor, but said that
he's never said anything bad
about Vice President. HARRIS
either it was gavid Newsome, who
was in a helicopter with Trump
when they were surveying
wildfire damage, and he said
that he remembers Trump worrying
about the helicopter crashing,
calling the town pleasure
instead of Paradise, and
suggesting California rake its
forests. Trump never had an
emergency landing in a
helicopter.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I played
the wrong clip because I had the
crowd clip. I'll play that in a
minute. But since we're on this
couple of things, string of
lies, there's actually been two.
Well, there was a horrible crash
where the Trump helicopter in 89
where, you know, everyone died,
but he had a tail strike when he
was on it. There was another
instance when Ivanka and Jared
had an engine issue. So it's not
like he's never had a problem in
the helicopter, but I could not
find we. I have my my fly boys
looking. We're trying to find
ATC, we're trying to find NTSB
reports. I cannot find any
emergency landing from any Trump
helicopter other than those two
two times. But Trump is seems to
be adamant about it, and that
would be pretty stupid. If, if,
if, if you didn't know, I think
you remember something like
that, but I watched like, 20
minutes of Willie Brown
interview, which is not even
worth clipping. He doesn't deny
it. He just says, no, no, he
doesn't know what he's talking
about. He didn't deny it at any
point in that. I don't know if
you saw that in like the
restaurant does. Willie Brown
just live in the restaurant in
San Francisco. Seems like he's
in there. You know, during the
day everyone's putting the
tablecloths on. He's like, Yeah,
but Mr. Mr. Brown, your table's
ready. Well,
John C Dvorak: in the olden
days, when stars was still in
business, which was the
restaurant to go to I went there
a number of times with Mimi, and
Willie Brown was always there.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So it's more likely
that it didn't happen because
Willie Brown lives in the
restaurant and then Trump is
lying. Here's the small crowd
clip. This is from CNN
yesterday.
Unknown: Trump went so far. This
is, this is why we're talking
about this today. He compared
the attendance of the rally that
he held on January 6, 2021
which, of course, was right
before the Capitol insurrection.
Many of those people walked down
the mall to the Capitol to one
of the most iconic speeches
that's been delivered here in
America.
Look at Martin Luther King when
he did his speech, his great
speech. And you look at ours,
same real estate, same
everything, same number of
people, if
not we had more. This is a whole
new level. MLK,
the thing about his obsession
with crowds is, you know, my
mother always taught me when a
man is arguing about size
of anything. In this case,
crowds. Where there's an
obsession,
he's probably insecure. That's,
I'll just put, leave it there. I
think women know what I'm
talking about, whether it's your
car, it's your crowd, it's your
yeah, whatever,
Adam Curry: yeah. So that's,
that's probably the only thing
he said about it. So they are
trying to make, to bring that.
They're trying to bring back a
lot of stuff. Seems like, you
know, the media is really no,
you know,
John C Dvorak: I can only think
of it this way. We screwed up
before Can we go back and take a
look at what we did? Yeah, and
re, rejigger it. Maybe that'll
make a difference. Definitely
preoccupied. Oh,
Adam Curry: I mean, it's, it was
even difficult to get other
topics for today, just like,
What is going on? It's like
everyone's hair on fire, running
around on social media. Shoot on
the television. Same thing. This
was, this was interesting,
though we know that in Nevada,
which is the big, you know, big
service sector, Trump, almost a
month ago, I think at this
point, said, You know, he told
his whole story about this
waitress, you know server and
Mr. Trump is so hard, you know
me, says, Ah, how about this?
I've got an idea. How about no
taxes on tips. So when Kamala
Harris, when Harry balls, was in
Vegas, this is what happened.
Unknown: Vice President Harris
touched down. Oops, sorry, this
one.
And it is my promise to everyone
here, when I am President, we
will continue our fight for
working families
of America, including to raise
the minimum wage and eliminate
taxes on tips for service and
hospitality
Adam Curry: that's pretty
awesome. Just take it from Trump
and just lay it out there like
it's something new. I was good.
John C Dvorak: That was the bill
clinton trick. Oh, do tell me
Bill Clinton that always. They
always said was the best
Republican candidate that
Democrats ever, yeah, put in
there, he would do that
constantly. Yeah, whatever the
idea was from the other side of
the aisle, he'd make it his,
yeah. And he did it very
consistently. And after a while,
said, Well, okay, well,
Unknown: it's good.
John C Dvorak: I mean, what you
do? I can't
Adam Curry: falter for it. It's
like, not bad at all. Well done.
CBS, though they were doing,
they did a kind of an excellent
propaganda piece with poll
numbers. And also, what's really
good now is they're doing the
picture of Kamala versus Trump.
So camel is all smiley and
joyful and Trump, it's the
Unknown: grumpy, exactly.
Adam Curry: It's the picture
from the, you know, the mug
shot. So you just look at it and
you see, Oh, happy over here.
Mean, mad guy over here, with
all kinds. I mean, just listen
to it, and you'll see what
they're doing over at CBS,
Unknown: Vice President Harris
touched down in Las Vegas
Saturday and rallied supporters
with her running mate, Tim Walz.
With
your help this November, we will
win
it capped a week long
battleground blitz with Pat
derinas Listening to her take on
former president, General Donald
Trump's tight,
but she shut down the crowd when
they chanced it lock him up
about Trump,
hold on the court's going to
take care of that. We just don't
beat him in November,
a new New York Times Siena
College Poll finds Harris ahead
among likely voters in three key
states, Michigan, Pennsylvania
and Wisconsin. Former President
Trump held fundraisers in
Wyoming and Colorado Saturday
after a Montana rally. Friday
night, we're going
to evict crazy camel.
But this morning, before Trump
spoke, is grabbing attention.
Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go
On, played for the crowd. The
singer released a statement
saying, in no way is this use
authorized, and Celine Dion does
not endorse this or any similar
use. Meanwhile, the Trump
campaign says it was hacked.
Politico first reported
receiving internal campaign
research documents from an
anonymous sender, the Trump
campaign suggesting Iran may be
behind the hack.
Adam Curry: Now, this was rather
interesting. First of all, we've
got some spokesman from the
Trump camp saying we were hacked
by Iran, huh? Microsoft coming
out immediately. Oh, yeah, no,
that was a and they always do
this spear fishing. Don't we
just say fishing? Why does the
media always say spear fishing?
John C Dvorak: Because,
supposedly, is, because it's
targeted, as opposed to mass
mailing. I guess. I don't know.
I don't know why they do that.
It's,
Adam Curry: it's odd, by the
way, Trump should just call her
cookie camera. This crazy camel
is no good cookie would
John C Dvorak: be. He's still
fishing around for I don't get
why he hasn't used cackling.
That's the one that we both
think is better cackling. But
Adam Curry: cookie would work.
The Iran
John C Dvorak: thing is kind of
interesting, because in security
circles, Iran is notorious for
being possibly better hackers
than the Ukrainians, and I
suppose they'd rather have
Camela in. I don't know what the
deal is with this. Well, this
particular hack, well,
Adam Curry: I think it's to me,
first of all, Microsoft comes
out right away. Microsoft, you
know, is notorious. They,
they're, they're leaky as a
sieve. So, yeah, they also just
did a deal with, or is it here?
They just did a deal with
Palantir to sell AI systems into
the intelligence community, you
know, so and Microsoft just
can't be trusted. I mean, come
on, we can't
John C Dvorak: really get back
doors. Go right straight to the
NSA. So,
Adam Curry: and what was that?
What actually came out? Again,
it's ProPublica, the same guys
who did the, you know, Russia,
all the rushing Russian
information, they
John C Dvorak: can't be trusted.
Yeah. So
Adam Curry: to me, it's more
like and what came out? Oh, we
have a 271 pages on research on
JD Vance, one portion, which was
marked possible vulnerabilities.
Yeah, hello. That's what you
John C Dvorak: do when you vet a
candidate. Totally. That's
exact. That's all you do. So,
Adam Curry: so this, this
document, is not interesting,
but it could be a little signal,
because that's the one thing
everyone forgets, is the
intelligence community they hate
Trump the most. I really have to
believe that that, you know,
they'd like to be in control the
military industrial complex, you
know, even big pharma, to a
degree. He, I think he's got mic
kind of placated with his Iron
Dome over America. Imagine what
that cost us. You know, big,
beautiful ships. So you know,
like, you know Trump, you know,
but we get our money. We don't
have to go to war. Maybe you
know he, I think they're okay,
but the intelligence agencies,
you know, just as they were
saying, Well, you know, it said,
this is all Russian
disinformation. Now it's like,
oh, Iran did it? Oh, yeah, Iran,
who knows? And now it gives them
the opportunity to put out some
other bogus stuff and just say,
Oh, it's from the Iran hack. You
know what? I mean.
John C Dvorak: It totally,
totally, and I hate to use that
word, you know, I ran into
Michael Hayden. Totally,
totally, the bald guy, Michael
Hayden, who's also one of the
big signees on that 51 guys. You
ran into him? No, I ran into his
post on Twitter. Oh, okay, he
has an account on Twitter, and
it might as well just be Rob
Reiner. He is totally
preoccupied with hating on
Trump, yeah, and extolling the
virtues of Camela. Yes, it's the
damnedest thing I've ever seen.
People should look it up, and
it's got a check mark. It's
General. Michael Hayden is, or
general, whatever he is. He's
Air Force General, I guess. And
he goes on and on. He was head
of the CIA and NSA, and he's
just nuts, yeah,
Adam Curry: well, again, it's
like those guys like to run
everything. CIA ran Obama. I can
totally see it. Here's a shorty,
same, same thing, I guess, same
story.
Unknown: The Trump campaign also
announced today it was hacked.
The breach was first reported by
Politico, which received
internal documents from an
anonymous account. The Trump
campaign is now blaming hackers
from Iran. Wait a minute.
Adam Curry: Oh, sorry. Politico,
I thought it was ProPublica.
Politico,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it was
Politico. Political. Wait, what
they talk about pro? That's what
I thought it was. Yeah, they're
always involved. The Trump
Unknown: campaign also announced
today it was hacked. The breach
was first reported by Politico,
which received internal
documents from an anonymous
account. The Trump campaign is
now
blaming hackers from Iran. Yes,
Adam Curry: I remember one was
say it was from an aol.com
account. And I can tell you with
some authority that many former
intelligence people and current
intelligence people use aol.com
accounts.
Unknown: So I
Adam Curry: don't know if I have
no idea. Maybe, because back
when the code could be code,
maybe back in the day when the
AOL accounts were available. You
know who you had an AOL account?
Bucha, Nick Channing had an AOL
account. There's other guys
this. For some reason, they have
AOL accounts. So I'm not sure. I
John C Dvorak: didn't even know.
I probably still have an AOL
account. I had dvorak@aol.com
but I don't know how to access
it. Yeah, well, anymore I don't
know. Problem. No idea it.
Doesn't know remembering a
password. I don't know
Adam Curry: how to do it
anymore. It was Glenn Greenwald
made a good observation about
Kamala Harris, which, and I'll
revamp this clip that we played
two shows ago. Remember when the
when the protesters started
yelling at her and she said, I'm
talking, you know? I'll play it
against just short tax
Unknown: breaks to billionaires
and big corporations. He intends
to cut Social Security and
Medicare. He intends to
surrender our fight against the
climate crisis, and he intends
to end the Affordable Care Act.
You know what? If you want
Donald Trump to win, then say
that otherwise, I'm speaking
Adam Curry: so Greenwald posted
a page from Animal Farm,
classic, classic novel Orwell's
animal form Animal Farm, and
I'll read it to you. We pigs are
brain workers. The whole
management and organization of
this farm depend on us. Day and
night. We are watching over your
welfare. It is for your sake
that we drink that milk and eat
those apples. Do you know what
would happen if we pigs failed
in our duty farmer? Jones would
come back. Yes, Jones would come
back. Surely, comrades cried,
Squealer, almost pleadingly,
skipping from side to side and
whisking his tail. Surely,
there's no one among you who
wants to see Jones come back.
Unknown: Very good observation
from Greenwald.
Adam Curry: There is, they're
the pigs in Animal Farm. It's
fantastic, yeah. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's what it
looks like, yeah.
Adam Curry: Now amidst all this,
I've had a couple of thoughts
about this when actually was
Nancy Pelosi, pop. Up this
morning in my feed with, I'm not
sure who she's been
John C Dvorak: showing up
everywhere, yes,
Adam Curry: and you've got to
wonder why. Let me see this was,
John C Dvorak: I want to stop
you as you go on to this, you
have to wonder why I it, is it
possible that Biden is going to
rebuke his being kicked out? Ah,
wait,
Adam Curry: I have a thought
about that. Listen to what
Pelosi says here. And this is
about the the letter that
appeared on a Thursday, right at
the beginning of our show day.
No White House letterhead looked
like a signature that was, at
least not what he has used
before, so possibly forged. And
here's what she said. This just
came in this morning.
Unknown: I didn't accept the
letter as anything but a letter.
I mean, I mean, there are some
people who are unhappy with the
letter. Let me say some said
that some people were unhappy
with the letter. I'll put it in
somebody else's mouth because it
was a I don't mean it didn't
sound like Joe Biden to me. It
really didn't.
Adam Curry: So what is she
saying here? She's saying that
Joe Biden didn't write it, that
Jill might have written it, or
someone else. Well, actually, if
John C Dvorak: you start looking
into it, Mike Donald wrote the
letter,
Adam Curry: oh, that's his
campaign guy. Mike Donald
John C Dvorak: is more than his
campaign guy. If you look him up
in the Wikipedia, you'll find
out that Mike Donald who is the
brother of Tom Donilon, Black
Rock, the two brothers are in it
together. Tom Donilon is the one
who Seymour Hersh thinks is
running everything. But Mike
Donilon is the guy that's in the
White House. He takes credit for
writing the letter he said, he
said so much. It's not like a
big mystery. I don't know why
this is becoming a mystery.
Everybody nobody wants to talk
about. To talk about this guy.
He did. I mean, he's been
running Biden since 81 or so.
It's all listed in there. It was
Adam Curry: also Bill Clinton's
who's in Clinton? Chief of Staff
in for the State Department. He
says, Chief of Staff in former
Bill Clinton State Department,
former National Security Advisor
to Obama.
John C Dvorak: There you go.
Yeah, no, this guy's getting
running things, and he, if you
look around, admits that he
wrote the letter.
Adam Curry: Oh, I didn't see
that. I didn't know that. Well,
why is Nancy Pelosi being so
weird about it? If it's out
there that he wrote the letter,
John C Dvorak: I don't know
where she's get she's weird
about something. And Donald
quit. Left in January, and then
came. He supposedly quit in
January, but yet he wrote the
letter, which was in July. So
he's never really left. He's
just still hanging around. And
now they have Paul Podesta and
people like that running the
show this. Something is very
fishy about all this well, and
I'm liking the idea that Biden's
gonna come out on the first day
of the conventions. Hey, I
didn't quit. I ever wrote that
letter? Yeah, I want my votes
back. Hello, it could
Adam Curry: be that or, I mean,
you know, I've been watching
Veep. We've been binge watching,
using
John C Dvorak: this as the
parallel I am. I am, yeah, to
analyze the situation currently
underway
Adam Curry: and last night,
yeah, I mean, yes, exactly. Last
night, we got to the episode
where Selena Meyer is
campaigning for president, and
she has a debate, and she comes
in second, some douche bag
baseball coach does much better,
and then all of a sudden, she
gets word the President is going
to resign because his wife keeps
trying to commit suicide, and
she's going to be president. And
I thought, wouldn't that be? So
there's two ways. And remember,
I also watched Dave. I mean, all
this stuff just keeps popping up
for me. It's like, you know. So
the options are, Biden keels
over, dead at the right at the
beginning, because he's
scheduled to speak on the first
night, I think so he keels over,
you know, or dead just keels
over. Or that, that Daddy Long
Legs guy comes in and keels
over. That could be one option.
The other is, Biden comes out
and says, Hey, guy, like you
say, how are my votes back? I
didn't do it. Or he just says,
you know, I'm looking at the
National Enquirer, which I
picked up at HEB, because that
now is that still Trump's guys
who run the National Enquirer?
Yeah, yeah. So front page. Real
Reason Biden quit. It's not what
you think untold story so well,
there you go. There's
John C Dvorak: your tease that
got you to buy it, of course.
Well,
Adam Curry: I was reading it,
and the article is almost at the
end, and so I'm reading it as
the belt is going and I felt
like such a douche. I'm like,
Okay, I guess. Have to buy it
now, because they can see me
leafing through the whole thing.
But then they have Old Joe won't
last four more years. Shocking
reason. Biden quit presidential
race. And then they have some
psychologist, Holly Schiff, who
basically says, now he's he's
got dementia. Well, what was
what? What reason was there
otherwise. I mean, that was a
phase that was, wow, bogus.
That's
John C Dvorak: a breakthrough
thought. That's
Adam Curry: bogus. Totally
bogus. Now,
John C Dvorak: well, the
possibility, I kind of agree
with these, these different
scenarios, and we have to, we
got till the 19th to keep
dreaming him up. Yes, but the
other possibility is that, you
know, that he real. I think it
now, as I look back on the
debate, I think they, you know,
because they're always going to
get Jack jacked up. Joe is was
missing, and we're always
wondering, why is it possible
that they actually gave him a
sedative instead of his normal
amphetamine cocktail, or
whatever they do to get him
jacked up? Yeah, so, so he was
out there just having you in a
daze, and you just know what to
do. He figures this out. He gets
rid of the doctors who screwed
him over for the debate. Gets
another guy that you know, Dr
feelgood character, in there to
Jack him up so he is all wired
to the gills on the on the 19th,
and that's when he freaks out
and wants his votes back. This
could be fun.
Adam Curry: It's very possible.
I went to YouTube and let me
see. Where's Joe. What's he
doing? Because you haven't heard
much about Joe, and it's really
not Joe. It's really Jill new
Unknown: at 11. President Joe
Biden and First Lady Jill Biden
are heading to New Orleans. They
will attend a Biden Cancer
Moonshot event in the city on
Tuesday. Details are limited on
what time and where they have
not been released yet. In March
of 2023 the First Lady visited
the Louisiana Cancer Research
Center in New Orleans to stress
the importance of cancer
research. You
Adam Curry: remember Dr Jill?
You know, she should have been
Surgeon General, because she's a
great doctor, according to
Whoopi
John C Dvorak: Goldberg,
nothing. So
Adam Curry: they're still out
there. They're still twiddling
around. I mean, it could be
super fun. It would be so boring
if he just gets up there and
goes and there's nothing. It
would be great. And just think
about it, if, and I have not
seen the rest of V but if she
becomes president, then
immediately there's all kinds of
issues that come into play. A
first of all, Trump's
merchandise sucks. He's got to
redo all that that'll that can
basically up the GDP of China
for all the new hats. Second,
can she then be blamed for
everything that's happening,
which, I mean, can she even
campaign as much with with two
wars and Iran and all this stuff
going on? And could that be a
rug pull from Obama? Who knows?
I mean, we're just dreaming
here. But, man, I
John C Dvorak: know we're having
nothing but fun. Yeah, it's
true. We're dreaming up
screwball ideas and scenarios
that could happen. Any one of
them could happen, yeah, but
Adam Curry: I don't hear anyone
else coming up with these
screwball ideas, just us.
John C Dvorak: I don't know
what. Well, it's because you got
the partisan media, you know, if
they weren't, if they were a
partisan like the no agenda
show, where we don't really take
us necessarily sides, we just
look for explanations that make
sense. Yeah, a lot of this makes
sense, if you think about it. I
mean, there it was presented by
Trump that Biden might do that,
yes, and once it but once that
thought is triggered, then you
have to take it to some, you
know, some logical extreme, and
say, Well, what happens if he
does this or that? And then
what, what would happen if, if
Biden went and said, I want my
votes back, chaos. It would be
Adam Curry: great. Well, then
there's the the lone wolf out
there who showed up on for some
reason now, a no agenda fan
favorite, Jesse waters,
John C Dvorak: and I always your
turn. I always had balls in your
car. Your turn. Yeah, see
waters, but
Adam Curry: I cut him out of my
clips. Here's Bobby the OP. We
finished the trials today. We
had a one week trial in Albany,
the DNC is trying to get me off
the ballot in New York State and
then all the other states. So
there is there essentially suing
me in every state we had. They
in order to get on the ballot in
this state, they they made so
many signatures. You need to get
47,000 signatures in 45 days.
They tried to make it
insurmountable. We got 150,000
signatures. We got a million
signatures nationally, and we're
now on the ballot on all we are.
Have enough signatures now to
get on the ballot in every
state, something everybody said
we couldn't do. There's a
million Americans who want to
vote, who want to see my name on
the ballot. Call it the DNC
strategy, is to make sure that
they will not see me on the
ballot. My father and uncle,
when they were running the
Democratic Party, their big
objective was to make sure that
every American could vote, and
today, the DNC is about making
sure that people don't have that
opportunity. Now, if it's true
what he's saying, Why? Why are
they so worried about him? Other
than man Joe could do something
really wacky, and then Bobby The
Op might pop up all of a sudden.
I think a lot of people are so
sick of everything, they'd be
like, ah, the most sane guy
right now seems to be RFK Jr.
Rogan would come out for him.
Lots of people would say, Yeah,
this guy's the only guy who's
even though there's a lot of
problems with him, you know
what? I mean,
John C Dvorak: yeah, well, they
just worry he's going to siphon
votes away from the Democrat
ticket. Yeah, I don't think it's
any more to it than that. Maybe
Adam Curry: you don't know.
John C Dvorak: I mean, Jill
Stein's not going to sucker any
votes away anymore.
Adam Curry: Mary Ann Williams
deep in, Mary Ann Williamson,
here's the Swift ops, somewhat
in play,
Unknown: and it is my promise to
everyone here when I am
president. Sorry,
Adam Curry: wrong one, I'm not
good today in my
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift
falling apart. Yeah, did
Unknown: Taylor Swift endorse?
Kamala Harris, the mega star has
yet to make a public
endorsement, but fans think an
Instagram post from two days ago
on Swift's account contained a
silhouette eerily similar to
Kamala Harris as a telltale
sign. Ooh, telltale
Adam Curry: sign, eerily
similar. Mmm, who
John C Dvorak: cares what Taylor
Swift's gonna do, though she
Adam Curry: has all those 13
year olds who can vote. It's
very important.
John C Dvorak: Well, they can
vote, if it's a Democrat state,
if they're 13. Oh, any age
doesn't matter. Six.
Adam Curry: You're good kid.
Come on in. Do you know your
address? Can you can you tell me
your attitude?
John C Dvorak: You don't need to
see it. You want to show ID.
Don't worry about it. I have
Adam Curry: two more Pelosi
clips. Maybe there's something
in here we can glean. Because
she was, she is everywhere
suddenly, saying that thing
about Biden, is
John C Dvorak: something going
did this? What this is? What
makes me think something's up.
Because, why? Why anywhere?
Well, here's here she is. They
always call her this speaker
Emeritus. When did that title
show up? Do they call Kevin
McCarthy the Speaker Emeritus?
Adam Curry: And am I the VJ
emeritus? Yeah, you would be, by
their standards. Are you
columnist emeritus for PC
Magazine
John C Dvorak: emeritus? Yeah,
PC Magazine emeritus. I like
Adam Curry: it. I like VJ
emeritus. I'm going to use that
from now on. Hello, Adam.
John C Dvorak: Sounds like a
good name for it, for for guys
doing mixing, yeah, mixologist,
mixologist, specifically for
mixing drinks. Never mind
Adam Curry: when, when Joe lar
Logan's husband introduced me to
General Flynn. He should have
said, this is a VJ emeritus. Oh,
you're the right honorable Adam
curry, V J emeritus is joy Reid
again with Nancy. I
Unknown: do want to talk a
little bit about that. You're
from, emerge from that San
Francisco political world. Of
course, you are from Baltimore,
from be more but you and there's
something about the Bay Area,
let me just list be more.
Baltimore
Adam Curry: is be more. I've
never heard be more. Maybe it's
a joy, Reid thing. I don't know
be more. Be more.
Unknown: You know, you came up
in San Francisco, and there's
something about the Bay Area.
Let me just list them. The
Great, late great, Harvey Milk,
Diane Feinstein, Jerry Brown,
the former governor, yourself,
Speaker Pelosi, gavid Newsome,
the current governor, and, of
course, Vice President Harris.
What are they putting in the
water in the Bay Area that
creates so many powerful people?
Don't forget Barbara Boxer,
don't we're so proud of her as
well.
Adam Curry: Kamala is from she's
from Oakland, not not San
Francisco. Or do you consider
that to be the San Francisco?
The same water as the San
Francisco have the same water as
Oakland?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he
Unknown: go. One of the things
that is in the water is that
we're an intellectual resource
in almost every issue you can
name. It's a hotbed of activity
where they're talking about
saving the planet, saving our
rights, fairness in every way,
in our economy. But we also
respect each other. We all are
not all in the same place on the
spectrum. We don't always agree,
but we respect each other, and
we do not take down anybody. So
we're always building strength.
We
Adam Curry: respect each other.
Everybody respect she says no,
but I'm saying speak. Here's the
second part, Kamala,
Unknown: you have to give her.
She is politically astute. She
won a tough District Attorney
race. She won a tough attorney.
General race, and then, of
course, it got easier for the
speaker, excuse me, the Senate
race, and now running for
President of the United States.
So women, what
Adam Curry: does that mean?
Easier for the Senate race. Why
was it easier for Did you just
step into it? I can't remember.
John C Dvorak: I believe she
stepped into it. Did someone
die? Didn't I think Feinstein
died, and they just put her in
temporarily, and then she ran
because, you know, she was the
incumbent, which was the Obama
I'm guessing. I'm not. I don't
know this for a fact, because I
don't remember that the sequence
of events necessarily Well,
Adam Curry: if you, if you
recall Obama became Senator when
they took that star, Trek Deep
Space Nine, seven of nine lady
and came up with the whole
scenario, my husband writes me
whatever that was, yes, yeah,
all right, he's the rest
Unknown: officially, something
about it personally. Well, you
know, personally, a person of
values and politically astute.
We like to think that with that,
whether it's in the water or
it's in the air or it's just in
our tradition in the Bay Area,
we're very proud of the
positions we take and the
friendships we develop, and the
respect we have for differences
of opinion. What
Adam Curry: is she signaling
here? Is this a San Francisco
like Reed Hoffman deal? Or what
is the I
John C Dvorak: have some clips
that might explain some of it,
because Newsom is going after
the homeless. Well,
Adam Curry: yeah, he's, he's
throwing them out. We don't he's
throwing into the bay. We don't
even know where he's putting
him,
John C Dvorak: throwing him into
the base he's got, he's got a
ramp they he's looking for 2028
as is, as is two or three other,
or as are two or three other of
these Democrats, including
Whitmer for president. And he,
and I think Shapiro, is probably
one of them. And so he's going
to try to clean up the state,
and he's got four years to do
it. So he's starting with the
homeless. Yeah, and I we can
play these clips when you're
done with your which, no,
Adam Curry: no, no, let's Well,
the only other thing is, Kamala
Harris ran against Sanchez, so
it wasn't handed to her, but it
was a landslide 68 to 30
something,
John C Dvorak: yeah? Well,
that's because it's rigged. I
hate to say that, yeah,
California elections are rig.
Yeah, let's do this. So
California, I've said this
before the states, that whether
you have rigged election, you
got Washington State. Nobody
likes these people that are
running Washington state, but
they get in with land with big
votes all the time, because it's
all mail in ballots. So it's
very easy to corrupt. Everyone
just been studied to death.
Everybody knows mail in ballots
are no good. California also
relies on them to an not to an
extent. Washington is 100% so
100% mail in ballots in
Washington State. So they
they've captured Washington
State. Oregon is similar.
California is similar. They did
capture it doesn't need to be
that bad, like it is in
Washington. Minnesota is
captured. Uh, I've always felt
that Massachusetts, Illinois,
for sure. Okay, totally corrupt.
So
Adam Curry: let's just go back
to Biden doing something
unexpected that they may be
expecting. And maybe this is
she, I didn't see the whole
interview, so maybe she talked
about Newsom. But if you've got
Kamala Harris all of a sudden
being president, wouldn't that
be a moment for Newsom to pop in
and say, Hey, let me take it
over, baby.
John C Dvorak: How's he gonna do
that? Just
Adam Curry: by saying exactly
that, this is a Democrat party.
You can vote when you're 13. You
can just step in say, Hey, let
me take it over, baby.
John C Dvorak: I think the, I
think originally, when Obama
came up with the scheme to get
rid of Biden, we have to, I
assume that scenario is true,
and then Biden screwed him by
announcing that camel is going
to be the candidate, right? And
people say the following this
analysis goes like this, well,
you can't bring in Newsome. You
can't bring in anybody, because
you got a woman of color at the
top of the ticket, and she's the
next one in line. You have to
give it to her. And so you have
to take that argument and say,
Well, how would Obama manage to
get around this, this situation?
Obama could do it. Obama could
ordain anybody and come out him
and Michelle could come out and
say, this is the way it should
be. Yes, I could. Doesn't
matter. It could be a black guy,
could be a white guy, could be
any it doesn't matter if Obama's
listen,
Adam Curry: if Kamala becomes
president, even for the next
what is it? The next four months
we had our black female
president that would be great,
and she, and you yourself, said
she's lazy, she doesn't want to
do anything. And then think
about it. I was the first
female, not just female, but
black president. And she is rich
for the rest of her life, can go
off do her own thing, and then
she could even say, you know,
I've got two wars here. I've
got, I'm gonna take care of
stuff, by the way, no taxes on
tips. And here's, here's Newsome
to run. I know I'm going off
kilter here, but why not? It's
John C Dvorak: premature for
Newsom, to be honest about it,
because he still has the
California city. This is the why
he's starting to clean up the
place, because it's hanging over
his head that it's like the
sword of Damocles. The homeless
situation in California is out
of control, yeah, and there's no
way you can run he but four
years from now, when it's all
cleaned up and he takes credit
for it. It's a different story.
So I so I don't think you can
slip Newsom in at this point.
You can slip somebody else in,
but no, they have nothing.
They're stuck with this woman.
Okay,
Adam Curry: all right. Well,
let's, let's hear your Newsome
clips.
John C Dvorak: Well, here's
Newsome going after the
homeless, and it's become
somewhat controversial. Here's
clip one.
Unknown: Two weeks ago,
California Governor Gavin Newsom
put out an executive order. He
urged cities and counties in the
state to remove homeless
encampments. This past week, he
upped the pressure, saying he
would take state funding away
from counties that didn't show,
quote, demonstrable results.
It's a move that puts the
Democratic governor closer to
conservatives on this issue than
to the progressives in his own
party to break down the details
and politics of this. I'm joined
by reporter Anna Scott in Los
Angeles. She covers housing and
homelessness with the California
newsroom, which is a
collaboration of NPR stations in
the state. Hey, Anna, hey, hey,
the governor said that he would
cut counties off from state
funding if they didn't
cooperate. Is this a real
threat? Did he give any
specifics on this? Oh, my
Adam Curry: God, this is NPR,
isn't it? How did they learn to
talk like this?
Unknown: Yeah, I think it's a
real threat. Not a lot of
specifics yet, but the state
provides a lot of funding to
cities and counties for all
sorts of different efforts to
fight homelessness. The Newsome
administration has spent around
$24 billion in fact, on this for
things like buying commercial
buildings to turn into housing
or funding new shelter beds, to
name just two things of many. He
didn't threaten to cut any
particular funding stream yet
from any specific place, but his
office told me he's ready to
redirect money away from any
county that's not meeting
milestones set by the state. And
he did call out Los Angeles
County specifically, and said
leaders here need to act with
more urgency on this issue.
Question.
Adam Curry: What county does is
that favela spot you've got,
you've got picked out.
John C Dvorak: Well, if San
Francisco is San Francisco
County, so just south of that, I
believe that would be in San
Mateo County. So he
Adam Curry: could say, You know
what, no money for you. Here's a
favela.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
think he's, I don't think he's
got the favela mentality yet.
Yet,
Adam Curry: you need to talk to
your governor. You've got some
good ideas.
John C Dvorak: He's the idea of
a favela there in South San
Francisco is probably the best
spot to do, to do the
experiment. And, of course, the
Hollywood sign in Los Angeles
and the Hollywood sign in Los
Angeles, that whole area is
right. Favela ready. It's favela
ready. That now there's this
show title. Write that one down.
I will favela ready. Yeah, it's
favela ready. But there's plenty
of places in LA that are favela
ready, yeah.
Unknown: All right. Cartoon, um.
So Anna, what exactly is
Governor Newsom wanting counties
to do that they're not already
doing well, it's
not completely clear, other than
get rid of more encampments. But
the problem is, people need
places to go, and we're short on
affordable housing. We're short
on shelter beds here in LA
County. Now, LA has made a lot
of progress in recent years on
adding beds and affordable
housing units. But the problem
is, in spite of that progress,
it's really not visible yet to
most people who are walking
around and looking at this
terrible crisis on the streets.
So
then, in that case, what would
make a visible difference here?
Just more housing for everyone?
Yes,
more housing. That's the simple
answer, because that's what is
at the root of the crisis a
shortage of cheap places to live
that has built up over decades.
John C Dvorak: I'm waiting this
is not true. The drug crisis is
part of the problem. They don't
mention that. It's got nothing
to do with housing. There's
plenty of people, and it's
documented to an extreme of guys
who said, go into here. This is
a place for you to stay. I'd
rather be on the street. Yes,
correct. And this happens
constantly. You, your friend
down in Texas must run into
this.
Adam Curry: Well, that that's,
that's where he finds people.
They're on the because drug
addicts the the main reason,
according to Alan Graham, the
reason from community, first
village, the main reason. Reason
people become homeless is
catastrophic, catastrophic loss
of family or community. And when
you are on the streets, you
usually fall into drugs, or
you've already you're already
into, you're already in some
kind of drug issue. And that's
why they all congregate, because
then you have a community of
druggies and and they look out
for each other. You know, it's,
it's a whole thing. So that's
that is now your new community.
So yes, and by the way, Newsome
does have a plan, but I'm, I'm
interested in your final clip on
this first unless you have
something else.
John C Dvorak: No, I have
another clip.
Unknown: Now, like I said,
California, Los Angeles in
particular, are making progress
on that, but it's a really big
gap to close. And on top of
that, the crisis is at such a
magnitude that you also have to
help all the people who are
already on the streets get into
the housing and stay there, and
everybody who's out there
probably needs a different
intervention. So it becomes very
hard to fix. Now the federal,
state and local governments all
share responsibility for
different pieces of these fixes,
but of course, they can always
point fingers at each other,
right? And Anna just quickly.
Are there politics at play
behind news one's most recent
statements here? Oh,
yes, of course, he's a
politician. I spoke with a long
time democratic political
consultant about this, Newsom
has been talked about as a
possible future presidential
candidate, but the homelessness
crisis in California is a huge
weakness for him, and so it
makes sense that he's distancing
himself from the responsibility
a bit and saying publicly to
local officials, look, the
state's giving you everything
you need, Money, support. Now
you have to act. I've done all I
can, but really, there's not a
quick fix to this.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm
disappointed now because I saw
your clips come in. People
should know John and I don't
talk in between shows. We don't
discuss what we're gonna do. He
sends his clips. I don't listen
to them. I look at the titles
just to see what he has covered.
So I see a three parter on
Newsom. I didn't clip in my
Newsome stuff because he has
proposed the solution. And I'm
very disappointed. Surprisingly,
not in NPR, they didn't mention
it. It is the cares court. Have
you heard of this?
Unknown: Maybe governor.
Adam Curry: I have the PDF. I
have the one pager PDF here
Governor Newsom's new plan to
get Californians in crisis off
the streets and into housing.
Treatment and care. It is the
community assistance, recovery
and empowerment, court care
court a new framework to get
people with mental health and
substance use disorders, the
support and care they need. So
what happens is they take you to
court. I'm sure there's a reason
why it's called court, and then
because it's a court, yes, and
then they so care. Court
connects, connect, connects.
This is great care. Court
connects a person struggling
with untreated mental illness
and often also substance use
challenges with a court ordered
care plan for up to 24 months.
So you have it's jail for
druggies. Each plan is managed
by a care team in the community,
and can include clinically
prescribed individual
interventions, i e r drugs with
special several support
services, medication and a
housing plan. The client
centered approach of these
convicts also includes a public
defender and supporter. What is
support like both pom poms, yay,
go. You to help, exactly to help
make self directed care
decisions, in addition to their
full clinical team. So he's
going to rouse them throw and by
the way, this is a $14 billion
multi year investment that will
also provide 55,000 new housing
units and treatment slots.
John C Dvorak: Well, 55,000 is
not enough, but they have slots.
Adam Curry: They just put you in
the wall in a slot, in the wall
slots and a more than 10 billion
annual investment in community
behavioral health services.
Dude, Bonanza, the governor's
comprehensive approach combines
a focus on bridge housing under
the bridge, I guess, to quickly
rehouse unsheltered individuals
with behavioral health issues,
all while more new units come
online, while also transforming
medical to provide more
behavioral health services to
people struggling the most. So
he's created a court. You get
rousted, you go to court. You're
a druggie. You got problems.
Take our meds. Sleep here. Or
else, or else. Yes, I'm
surprised NPR didn't catch on
to. That That's odd. I am too
now that you mentioned it
because it he has a solution.
It's a, it's a, kind of a weird
one.
John C Dvorak: It was, it's a
totalitarian solution. There you
go. Yes, totally, every
definition, yes, yeah. You go
on. And it's done by edict. If
you haven't noticed, they
mentioned that is all executive
orders. So there's no
legislature involved, or anybody
any input whatsoever. This is
just a totalitarian mechanism
that he put in place. And the
key to it is this, this phony
baloney kangaroo court, yes,
which is exactly what it is.
Yep. There you go. Yeah, they're
good for him well,
Adam Curry: and I think it's a
model for all of America. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's what
basically, that's the point he's
going to try to make when he
runs for president. The problem
is he still has that. He still
is, got that greasy, kind of
slick and he's with that
gravelly voice. He's got some
issues with his presentations,
especially when you compare him
to the Jewish Obama, the
Shapiro. Shapiro. Shapiro sounds
just like Obama. He's got the
cadence, he's got the better
speeches. He's much more dynamic
speaker than Newsom. Newsom is
not very good compared.
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter, you
know, doesn't matter people just
well,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't
matter, because they're going to
just choose somebody that, if
you're going to say that, but
they're going to choose
somebody, they're going to
choose Shapiro.
Adam Curry: I don't think
America is ready for a Jew
president.
Unknown: I really don't think
about
John C Dvorak: it. I don't think
that. I don't really believe
that. I don't think any, I mean,
there's probably a few people
that wouldn't appreciate it, but
the Nazis in general, nobody
cares that much about especially
a guy like that guy, he's pretty
neutral coming out. He's talking
about,
Adam Curry: he's a screamer. He
goes all off the off the rail.
He's like, Dean scream. Almost
no, yes, yes. Oh man, I thought
I had a dean scream clip of him.
Yes, he was going off the rails.
I know I didn't clip it crap.
Yeah, because it didn't matter,
because he's no longer in the
running. Oh yeah, his voice is
all skipping and stuff. Yeah,
Unknown: maybe I could find it
Adam Curry: somehow. No, I don't
think he's well,
John C Dvorak: the other thing
that you notice on these
networks that say that Trump is,
whatever that word was we used
earlier, freaked out about
something or other, which he's
not. Oh, here he's saying. Here
Adam Curry: it is, John. Listen
to this
Unknown: an America where, no
matter what you look like, where
you come from, who you love or
who you pray to, that this will
be a place for you. This is the
beginning of it. And
are you ready to look the
next President of the United
States in the eye and say,
Hello, Madam
President. Are you ready? Well,
John C Dvorak: that's a good
example. I have to say, I'll
give you points for that, okay?
Because that's not his nuts. All
right. So the other thing is,
they're, they're, they're
condemning Trump for not doing
enough rallies. And, oh,
Adam Curry: really, not enough
rallies. I thought he was doing
all kinds of rallies. Well, they
John C Dvorak: claim he's not
doing as many as he could. And
of course, this is just a
kibbutzinger he has. He said in
his press conference, he gave an
hour press conference, for some
reason, reasonably good amount
of time. Since nobody else is
doing them, yeah? And he says,
Look, I'm not going to do a lot
of work until we this, until the
convention is over, right? And I
think it's smart in that regard,
because the convention will
change the dynamics of
everything. He has to see what
happens.
Adam Curry: Well, he's throwing
out there this, I want three
debates. And camel is not, not
not biting like one debate. I
actually have a clip here. Vice
President
Unknown: Kamala Harris and
former President Donald Trump
take their campaigns to Western
states as they also prepare to
meet face to face in their first
presidential candidates.
Debate called for three debates.
I think it's
very important that we have
them. I hope she agrees to them.
September 4, September 10,
September 25 Harris
and her running mate, Minnesota
Governor Tim Walz, after stops
in Michigan and Wisconsin are in
Arizona Friday, a key stop in a
multi day battleground state
Blitz, both sides are heavily
courting the Latino vote in the
final three months of the
campaign, Harris, on Friday,
picked up the first ever
presidential endorsement of the
oldest Latino civil rights
organization in the US, the
League of United Latin American
Citizens, is expected to join
Harris for a rally this weekend
in Nevada. Trump traveled to
Montana for a fundraiser and to
campaign for. A Senate
candidate. He's insisted he has
not adjusted his campaign since
Harris became the Democratic
nominee.
I haven't recalibrated strategy
at all. It's the same policies,
open borders, weak on crime.
She's, I think she's worse than
Biden.
While Harris has surged in
recent polls, the Trump campaign
has dismissed it as a honeymoon
moment, both the Trump Vance
ticket and the Harris wall
ticket are ramping up
appearances in the handful of
battleground states, building
momentum for a high stakes
debate in September that could
be a make or break moment for
either campaign. Well,
Adam Curry: she's only planning
on doing one, from what I can
tell, she has not responded, but
we'll see about that. Bob, my
team is working on an interview.
Yeah, you're right. Trump is
probably just sitting back like
crazy. Joe could come out jacked
up. Joe could return, you know,
Jill now doing the injections
herself. She doesn't trust
anybody. Maybe Hunter. Hey, Dad,
I
John C Dvorak: got some good
stuff, and he knows how to do
it. You know,
Adam Curry: did I read somewhere
that that wacky woman from the
Secret Service who resigned,
that she had, like, a partial
DNA hit on the coke in the White
House, and she obfuscated it.
John C Dvorak: I read she wanted
the evidence destroyed. Well,
clearly, clearly, yes, this,
this is, I Yes, disgusted. What
you just said, yeah, that they
had a partial DNA hit, and she
wanted the evidence destroyed,
and they wouldn't do it because
it was violation of some process
and never got destroyed. But we
that's what she was angling for.
But we don't know what the part,
who, the part they ended the
investigation. Yeah, they could
do that. So that's what she did.
So meanwhile,
Adam Curry: as if it never
happened, you know, there was an
assassination attempt, and, man,
if you look at Instagram, I I
looked at my daughter's on
Instagram. That's the only way I
can keep up, keep up with what
she's doing. She doesn't tell me
everything. So I got to go look.
What are you doing? She's going
into the jungle again. She's
doing another reality show. I
think it's like girls in the
jungle. So it's all these kind
of cute girls, and they throw
them in the jungle.
John C Dvorak: Oh god, it's like
Naked and Afraid. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: and so I'm I'm
scrolling around, and I see
people posting things like it
was shrapnel. He didn't get SAS.
There was no assassination
attempt. There was just some
shrapnel from what exactly he's
John C Dvorak: lying I mean that
if you ever watch the clip of
him getting shot the
teleprompter, which is where
they say the shrapnel came from,
was intact. The teleprompter was
not hit. I'm just,
Adam Curry: I'm just saying
people, people have so it's as
if it never happened. I mean, it
was, it was an amazing moment in
in American political history.
It was like, we're just back to
calling him needle dick and
anything else. It just no good
this guy crazy, weird, weird
Vance, weird Trump blah, as if
it never no one is disturbed by
it. And I have a couple of clips
here. This is so now we have new
body cam footage, which really
shows us nothing but the Secret
Service that
John C Dvorak: shows body cam
footage,
Unknown: told them
they need to post the guy.
I told him that
the Secret Service, I told him
that Tuesday,
I told him to post guys over
here. What? No, we're inside. I
told them to post guys over
here. I
wasn't even concerned about it,
because I thought someone was on
the roof. The guy walking back.
I
talked to the Secret Service
guys. They're like, yeah, no
problem. We're gonna post guys
over here. So to put it into
context, Ryan, what we're
listening there is this local
law enforcement officer, again,
just approximately 10 minutes
after somebody fired or met
Thomas Matthew crooks fired
eight rounds at Donald Trump,
saying, Look, I told the Secret
Service we needed people back
here, because he's standing
behind the building or the
buildings where the shots were
fired from. Then he says, I told
the Secret Service that on
Tuesday, presumably there was a
site walk through. Obviously,
the shooting happened on a
Saturday, July 13, so that was
at least several days
beforehand. So
Adam Curry: there's, you know, a
new analysis, okay, but
everything is Secret Service.
Secret Service. I just want to
revisit briefly the theory that
we've discussed. This was a very
typical FBI six week cycle.
We've been on this for over a
decade, and it comes and goes.
But when it's on the six week
cycle, the FBI some, typically,
some poor, weak minded brother
is seeing an olive bar online,
and they they sigh up and for a
couple of months, Hey, man, you
should go blow something up.
And. And the guy goes out there,
just like crooks had a phony
baloney detonator with bombs. We
don't even know if the bombs
actually worked, because we've
heard nothing more about them.
That's when the van was whisked
away, or was it in his car? We
don't know. There's some
circumstantial evidence of FBI
cell phones. And, you know, near
the FBI, whatever it is, a lot
of FBI stuff, and it's a very
typical FBI setup. It's like,
make it look like someone's
going to try and kill the
president with bombs. We even
had the mainstream almost as if
they were, as if someone
triggered it and said the wrong
thing, or they were ready for
it. Oh, Trump falls down, afraid
of loud noises and but then the
kid went rogue, and he brought a
rifle and he took some shots.
So, lo and behold. So this is
our six week cycle theory. We've
we've heard this from people who
are in the know. Lo and behold.
I'm really from waters to the
pool boy, here we go. Tim pool
had an FB a former FBI agent on
his show, often called a
whistleblower. I don't know if
he's a whistleblower, but he, he
John C Dvorak: everybody,
everybody's a whistleblower. No,
I know
Adam Curry: that when you tell
the truth, you're a
whistleblower. And he lays out
the six week cycle, exactly
Unknown: when the FBI charts
their progress, they are looking
for a thing that are called
stats. This is something that
all law enforcement, you know,
this is like quotas, if you
will. And so we need to have
stats that say, I have X number
of cases in this field, and I
have X number of arrests in this
type of category. We're going
after ms 13. We're going after
organized crime, blah, blah,
blah. We're doing these counter
intelligence investigations.
They have a thing that's called
a disruption, which means the
plot basically got foiled, and
they have a thing that's called
a dismantlement, which means
that this network was taken
apart. And you get more points
for a dismantlement than you do
for a disruption, if my memory
serves. It may be backwards, but
I think it's that. So the thing
is, is these guys are literally
going for gold stars on a board.
And you think, Okay, well, would
they, you know, sacrifice public
safety to do this. If they
thought they can get away with
it safely, they will. And the
second thing is the oldest
reason that's ever existed, it's
greed, the Senior Executive
Service in all federal
governments, but definitely in
the FBI that I was able to
experience, they get paid a five
figure bonus. It's like between
30 and 50, maybe $60,000 if they
hit all their metrics. So they
are incentivized to get arrests
in certain categories. They're
incentivized to do these sort of
things.
Adam Curry: Okay, sounds pretty
much like the six week cycle. We
always thought it was for the
budget, so they can justify the
budget. Now it turns out, and
I'm gonna take this guy at his
word, that it's an individual
star collection thing. If you
get more money, if you can
disrupt something. And then
remember, we had that kind of
rogue Iran thing. Oh, Iran. The
Iranian wanted to take him out.
Remember that? Yeah. Well,
listen to this part, Vice
President
Unknown: Kamala Harris and
former sorry, I'm
Adam Curry: so bad today. Here
we go. The FBI
Unknown: went so hard on January
6 that they overdid the number
of hours that they're allowed to
assign to domestic terrorism,
because they have to spread
themselves to international
terrorism and domestic
terrorism. They massively
overdid it for dt, which is the
abbreviation. They did it so
badly that they sent out section
chiefs from headquarters to all
the field offices regionally,
and said, Listen, we need you to
go through all of your domestic
terrorism cases and find
connections to international
terrorism so we can recategorize
your hours. Imagine like an
attorney, Bill's hours. The FBI
assigns the work of an agent
against certain types of
categories of cases. So they had
too many, what are called 266,
cases. Those are the domestic
terror they needed more. 415,
cases. And in order to do that,
they were like, Hey, did you
find a dude who is a white
supremacist? But he was in a
chat room somewhere that later
on, an al Qaeda guy went into
because we can tie them together
and make this a 415 instead of a
266 it's the dumbest thing
possible. But when you
understand, we're talking about
bureaucracy here, here's the
scariest part for me. This has
been going on for 20 years.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: So that takes us
right back to this, the
Unknown: FBI arresting a
Pakistani national in connection
with an alleged plot to
assassinate former President
Donald Trump.
Adam Curry: There you go. They
went. They wanted a 415 so they
just throw that in. Good to go.
Unknown: I completely believe
this,
John C Dvorak: but I think we
both do. I think this has been
believed by us in one form or
another. What we did, the
missing information is the
bonus, yes, now we know which is
more impetus than just the
budget. It's even better. It's
even better because you get, you
get personal benefits. You don't
just, oh, I'm doing it for the
good of the agency. Yeah. So,
yeah. So it makes it even more.
It makes even more sense if you
bring that yes,
Adam Curry: yes, exactly,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, the
pack is standing, yeah, it's a
good one.
Unknown: Sure
John C Dvorak: everybody's all
in on this, yeah.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, everyone
is all yelling about crowd size.
Is an AI and capitalist. She's,
she's hiring people $250 to sit
in the crowd. Yeah, duh. Dex
John C Dvorak: is $15 an hour.
Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. That's all.
That's whether that
John C Dvorak: said. This
another thing that's all you
read, probably true. That's
Adam Curry: all you read on X,
news, social. It's all about
that. It's boring. Here's Elon
Musk. He keeps because I follow
him, he keeps posting X is the
number one news app, okay, yeah.
John C Dvorak: He's been pushing
that, that idea, yeah. Now
here's a while we're on this FBI
stuff, there is a couple of kind
of parallel weirdness is going
on.
Adam Curry: We got to stop using
the word weird. We have to stop
that we're using
John C Dvorak: I told you, I
called you out. I know. I'm glad
you did, but you you just Yeah,
I know it's bad, it's bad, it's
bad. This is bad. It's one of
those bad we've been I don't
like me. We've been
Adam Curry: influenced by by Tim
waltz. How bad or we,
John C Dvorak: which going after
for some reason? Scott Ritter,
yeah, the
Adam Curry: FBI visited him, and
Tulsi Gabbard was she's on that,
that fly check her out list or
something.
John C Dvorak: Well, she's irked
about it, yeah, I can imagine.
But what's interesting is that
two of them have both discussed
this, uh, Scott Ritter
discussing it everywhere he can.
But the best discussion comes
off of RT, which he works for.
Ah, and I want to play this,
these two clips, and then play
Tulsi clips, okay, and then see
if you can find the commonality,
the commonality between what
they both say,
Unknown: the FBI and the police
have raided the New York home of
former US Marine Corps
intelligence officer and current
RT contributor Scott Ritter. He
addressed his followers on
social media platforms,
excluding that the FBI has
concerns over his link with RT
and Russian media outlets, but
FBI has executed a search
warrant on my home. The search
warrant was based upon what they
deemed to be probable cause that
I am in violation of the foreign
agent registrations act. It
worked for RT, of course, and
they executed a search warrant
looking for electronic devices,
my computers, my cell phone,
things of that nature. Based
upon their questions, it appears
that they are primarily
concerned about my relationship
with RT and Sputnik Scott
himself was not detained in the
rate. Which is the latest in a
string of actions targeting the
former UN weapons inspector.
Back in June, the US State
Department seized his passport,
taking him off a plane as he
traveled to attend the St
Petersburg International
Economic Forum. It comes as the
threat of assassination has been
hanging over Mr. Ritter for
quite some time after he was
added to a notorious Ukrainian
kill list for his views on the
conflict. Scott says that
alternative stance the US
government has effectively
declared war on him.
Adam Curry: Okay, so far, just
sounds like harassment.
John C Dvorak: Well, the fact
that they took him off of a
plane, oh, I didn't know that
part. I didn't know that part
either, and I didn't know
anything about the kill list. So
this is our tea is actually
giving us better reporting.
Yeah, shocker. Shocker. Here's
the second part of this.
Unknown: This is absurd in the
extreme. This, this raid on my
home was designed to have a
chilling effect, to make me
think twice about speaking out,
about writing, about doing
podcasts, and as I told the FBI,
and I'll tell you now, there
isn't a snowball's chance in
hell that I'll back down because
I'm doing nothing wrong today,
the United States government
declared war on me. They
declared war on my ability to
write, my ability to speak, my
ability to interact with the
American people and indeed, with
a broader international
audience. So be it we're at war.
It's not a war I plan on losing.
Scott Ritter, well, another RT
contributor, former Senate aide
to Joe Biden, Tara Reid, has
repeatedly stated she's been
harassed by the FBI too, and
says there's an ongoing witch
hunt for Americans who hold a
different point of view. He
spoke
out against the war in Iraq and
revealed that the government
lie, the US government lied
about the weapons of mass
destruction. He he spoke out.
George Galloway famously spoke
out. And he was a whistleblower.
He has been a whistleblower. And
then, you know, he was put in
prison for charges that he was,
you know, convicted of, and he
did his time, he served his
sentence. So I don't think it's
related to that sentencing at
all. I think, again, it's just a
pattern of what you're seeing in
the United States, which is.
Their surveillance state and
authoritative government that
you know, we have the illusion
of free speech. We have that
illusion of a right to travel,
but in reality, it's only
allowed if we say what the you
know, United States wants people
to say. Otherwise, you're at
risk. Many say that are
unfortunately, the intelligence
Cabal has has really taken over
the United States government,
and I think you have seen that
pretty clearly just in the
recent events around the 2024
election.
Adam Curry: Well, yes, no
surprise to us. As an aside,
someone mentioned in the troll
room that we were on a weird
kick previously, around Obama
time and I went to Bing, it.io
Holy crap. We would say the word
weird, eight, 910, times an
episode. It's terrible. It
really is. It's bad. Okay, so,
yes, well, the intelligence
community runs the country. Duh.
All right, yeah, hello. Gotcha.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: they have not
contributed much to the show
recently. It's really annoying.
Well,
Adam Curry: where are those?
Aol.com addresses people. Come
on. Step it up. So
John C Dvorak: we have Tulsi on
watch list. And here she's,
she's off the deep end here, but
this interesting, the fact that
it seems to me that she should
be happy that there's three air
marshals on every flight she
takes. You feel like a lot of
safety around you. You know what
I mean. I hear
Unknown: you. So what exactly
did Tulsi Gabbard do? Oh,
Adam Curry: is this Frau
Ingraham?
John C Dvorak: It's, I'm sorry I
should have warned you, because,
because everything is traced
back to her Tulsi appearance on
fraud show,
Adam Curry: frouse show, very
good, added
Unknown: to the terror watch
list. It came the day after she
criticized the Biden
administration, right here on
the angle, whatever.
Adam Curry: I haven't watched
her in a while, but what this is
very nasty.
John C Dvorak: It's no
different. It's always nice. You
know, I got this. This is an
aside. I've mentioned this on
the show once before. She used
to have a radio show. Yes, I
think she, maybe she still does
not know, I don't think so, but
she had a radio, syndicated
radio show, and if I and it was
a later show wasn't like during
the day. It wasn't done drive
time or anything. So I tune into
it every so often by accident,
as I'm going through the
channels, when, if it was later
and I'd hear it, and I always
swore what it sounded like a
guy. She sounds like a male on
the radio. For some reason, she
just sounds like a like a hype,
you know, like a male 10 or not,
not a guy with a baritone voice,
but she sounds male ish, and I
was always stunned by that.
Adam Curry: Let's return.
Unknown: See our foreign policy
decisions are being made by
unelected people in the military
industrial complex who are
profiting from us being in a
constant state of war and the
national security state that has
more power to undermine our
freedoms and liberties when we
are in a state of war. Kamala
Harris does not have the
strength to stand up to the
military industrial complex.
Okay,
that's wild. Joining me now
Tulsa. Gat reforming us. KYLE
SIMON, Fox News contributor,
Tulsi,
now you serve this country in
uniform, even getting deployed
to Iraq.
Thank you for going unlike Tim
Walz, and now you're being
surveilled. I mean, it's a form
of surveillance hassling and
intrusion upon your freedom to
move by the government. What is
this? I mean, I didn't believe
it really when I first heard
about it, I said, Oh, that can't
be but how does this make you
feel? Laura, this is a clear act
of political retaliation.
There's no other way to put it.
You laid out the sequence of
events the very next day after
my conversation with you on the
air, warning the American people
about how dangerous a Kamala
Harris presidency would be, I
was placed on this domestic
terror watch list, which is
called the quiet skies list
under the Department of Homeland
Security. The clear pain and
real, visceral hurt that comes
from this is, as you mentioned,
like many Americans, I enlisted
because of the terrorist attacks
on 911 to go after the Islamist
terrorists who attacked us on
that day, and to now have my own
government now turn around and
put me on a domestic terror
watch list. It is, it hits to
the core and is the ultimate
sense of betrayal,
Adam Curry: okay? Because, yes,
it is a betrayal.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of an amusing
betrayal. I have nothing. I
Adam Curry: have I noticed just
one of those aside things. Tulsi
does not look good on her from
her, if they shoot her from the
left side. Have you noticed
this?
John C Dvorak: She does have
angles that make. Look better,
yeah,
Adam Curry: straight front on is
good. And and on her, let me see
her right side, the left side,
oh, makes her look very old and
kind of crackly and that then
you, you know, that block, her
John C Dvorak: site, her left
specifically, yes, her left
side, not looking at her, at her
left No,
Adam Curry: her left side
specifically. And that's also
the side with the with the the
blonde lock,
Unknown: oh yeah, tell
Adam Curry: them to look at,
look at someone. Some be on.
Look out for it. Once you see
it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: have probably
enough to look at it. Okay, too.
Unknown: We look at why they are
doing this, it has a chilling
effect. It sends a warning, both
to me and to anyone else who
even thinks about daring to
criticize our own government,
which is a guaranteed, protected
right under the First Amendment.
Yeah, that that we will be
subject to a violation of our
Fourth Amendment right to
privacy through this kind of
surveillance, and that's that's
the biggest stress that's been
caused by this entire situation.
Laura is now forever. I will. I
will always be looking over my
shoulder wondering if and how
our government in any of these
different agencies is
surveilling me, watching me. Are
they reading my phone calls?
Yeah. I was going to say yes,
yes and yes, that's what I would
guess. At least now in a letter
from whistleblower attorney
Tristan Levitt, he writes that
the special mission coverage in
MS gabbard's case reportedly
involves two explosive detection
canine teams, one transportation
security analyst and explosives
one plainclothes TSA supervisor
and three federal air marshals
on every flight. Ms, Gabbard
boards,
Adam Curry: well, do they get
her first class seating?
John C Dvorak: I just find the
whole thing peculiar. But did
you notice the commonality with
the sky? Ritter, clip,
Unknown: airplane, using
John C Dvorak: the term chilling
Oh, which you actually noticed
when he said it, yeah, chilling
effect. She says it right the
beginning of that clip. And I
listened to the Ritter clip. He
said, this is like code,
Adam Curry: hmm, you so they're
both, let me hear, let me hear.
Tulsi again, say chilling. We
Unknown: look at why they are
doing this. It has a chilling
effect. And
Adam Curry: did Ritter say that
in his first or second clip? I
don't remember, but I
John C Dvorak: don't remember
what he said, he but he said it
is at a point where you picked
up on it. I was like, probably
the second ship. But it's not
just chilling, a chilling
effect. It's exactly the same
wordage, which is like, Well,
okay, I guess it does, but it
just seems like a coincidence
that of all the people that are
being well, hold on a sec,
Unknown: they are both military.
So dia CIA.
Adam Curry: So it could be the
DIA code for chilling C chilling
effect.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know what to make of it, but I
just I did notice it, and it was
clear as day, and it was exact
same coded language, which
always, especially from these
two events, which are nowhere
near each other, but they're
using the same coded language.
So it just bother me. Okay,
final clip for Tulsi, literally
Unknown: like the Soviet Union,
China today, North Korea, any
totalitarian regime but Donald
Trump the totalitarian right?
He's the dictator in waiting.
Okay, yeah, this is just and
this is what, what we know
about, and we know about it
because of these brave
whistleblowers from the Air
Marshal Service who are coming
forward. What I'm questioning
is, what are the things that are
happening in our government that
I don't know about how long have
they been surveilling me. This
is just the recent occurrence. I
would not be surprised to know
that there are other government
agencies who are also being
weaponized against political
opponents, those who dare to
challenge this regime of the
Biden Harris administration, and
that's really what it comes down
to, and why they have to be
stopped the right to life,
liberty and the pursuit of
happiness, I cannot fund free.
And you pointed to this, yes,
exactly. I cannot get free so
long as my government is
breathing down my neck and
watching my every move.
Adam Curry: I disagree with her
here. I do not think that these
agencies or these divisions, and
I'm specifically looking at the
military industrial base or the
intelligence community, they're
not all in on anybody except
themselves, and as is witnessed
by the. The heavily military
industrial base funded AIPAC.
Unknown: It's been one of the
most expensive primaries in
history. APEC spent $8.5 million
for Wesley Bell's campaign to
defeat Missouri representative
curry bush. She's been a member
of the progressive congressional
group, the squad, and a target
of a pack because of her
critical stance on Israel's war
on Gaza since October 7, Cory
Bush is the second member of the
squad who has been unseated in a
similar APEC strategy in the
primaries this year, Democratic
Representative from New York,
Jamal Bowman, was defeated by
pro Israeli centrist George
Latimer. AIPAC put nearly $15
million into latimer's campaign
trail. The results showcase the
political and economic power of
AIPAC and deep divisions among
Democrats over Israel's own slot
on the besieged trip. But it's
not only Democrats who are being
targeted. A Republican
Representative from Virginia,
Bob good has lost his seat
against John McGuire, who was
endorsed by the Republican
Jewish Coalition. The group
attacked Congressman good after
his vote against financial aid
to Israel. AIPAC says these
victories are and I quote,
further proof that being pro
Israel is good policy and good
politics on both sides of the
aisle. Meanwhile, unceded
Congress members and their
supporters slam a pack for
spending millions of dollars and
I called again to brainwash
waters
John C Dvorak: now, wait, wait,
the Republican Jewish Alliance.
Is that? What she said? What is
it? Three guys,
Adam Curry: what? Let me listen.
Well, this is TRT, so let me
hear what she said, meanwhile,
Unknown: unceded Congress
members and their supporters
slam a pack for spending
millions of dollars, and I
called again to brainwash
waters. I
John C Dvorak: don't know where
she said that you just back for
but the
Adam Curry: whole, the whole
point is that thing is funded by
the by the military industrial
base. Sure, you know, it's and,
you know, the Jews are just,
basically in it, just, you know,
as a sideline. Because look at
what they're doing. Look at how
they're ramping up Iran. And,
you know, and I was listening to
a couple other podcasts about
it, I don't think Iran's going
to do anything. I think, you
know, they're just going to sit
back. You know, they're not
going to retire.
John C Dvorak: They killed the
guy themselves.
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah. He
was annoying. And it's
John C Dvorak: hanging out. He's
over there. It's they don't like
the the the Shia anyway. You
know, there is that thing we
brought it up in the last show,
that there's difference in the
religions, and
Adam Curry: it's better to have
Israel waiting. I mean, that's
terror. You know, you're waiting
like, do I have to go into my,
my, my bunker? Do I have to get
into my
John C Dvorak: meanwhile, the
USA has to spend millions of
dollars in fuel and efforts to
keep all these ships going
around and around. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. No, it's, it's a horrible
situation. No, it's
Adam Curry: a great situation.
Lots of money, lots of money
back to
John C Dvorak: Tulsi Gabbard,
and the fact that, you know, she
probably is not being targeted
by intelligence. She's being
targeted, though, by the demo.
I've said this before. I'll say
it again. The Democrat Party is
a cult. She quit. The cult is
within you. She quit the cult
and became kind of a independent
Republican type, and they're
going after for that reason. And
that's the only thing that's
going on. Is that, okay, you
quit the party. This happened to
anyone who's ever been a
Democrat. It lasts for about a
decade.
Adam Curry: Well, have they been
targeting you since you quit the
Democrat party? That was in 1979
Oh, so you're done. You're out
now.
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's been
done for years. I
Adam Curry: mean, I've been
long, you've been deprogrammed.
You're good. It's like, That
John C Dvorak: guy, I've been
out of that, yeah, but it was,
it's a cult, and so would be,
when you quit a cult, they
always go after you right away,
and they keep hounding you come
either come back into the cult,
or you or then you just, you
know, yeah, it takes forever,
though, so that, I think that's
what they're doing to her,
freaking her out. So we
Adam Curry: just put another
three and a half billion for
Israel to spend on US weapons,
according to CNN, you know,
we're positioning, uh, ships,
big, beautiful ships. Yes, it's
great. Just keep it rolling for
a little bit. And then we have
this. This was very odd, this
story. Well, here's the setup.
30 seconds, senior
Unknown: EU officials have
joined a growing chorus of
condemnation after an Israeli
air strike on a school compound
killed dozens in Gaza City. The
EU's top diplomat, Joseph
Burrell, expressed his horror at
the attack, which Gazan
officials say killed more than
90 people sheltering in the
school. Egypt and Qatar are
demanding an urgent
investigation, and the US has
said it's, quote, deeply
concerned about the strike.
Israel has repeatedly claimed
that Hamas uses schools as cover
in the wake of the October 7
terror attacks,
Adam Curry: so the way they make
its. Around, and I could have
clipped him 20 of these,
John C Dvorak: the way I have
the NPR version. Yeah, that.
Where is it? Under Israel? Got
it.
Unknown: You hit it. Vice
President Harris, ahead of a
campaign rally in Las Vegas
tonight, said, once again, that
there have been too many
civilian casualties in the
Israel Hamas war. Israel has a
right
to go after the terrorists that
are Hamas, but as I have said,
many, many times, they also
have, I believe, an important
responsibility to avoid civilian
casualties.
The school was being used as a
shelter for Palestinians
displaced by the war in an area
where people have been displaced
since the war started in
October, the Israeli military
says they were targeting a Hamas
command center within the
school. The attack came early
this morning, when many people
were praying in an area used as
a mosque.
John C Dvorak: So and then you
have the 14 second version,
which is the shortest of them
all on PBS, which is the called
last Israeli strike,
Unknown: an Israeli air strike
in Gaza hit a school today,
killing at least 80 people. The
strike happened during morning
prayers. According to witnesses,
Israeli defense forces say Hamas
militants were operating out of
the school. Hamas disputes the
claim. Okay, so
Adam Curry: all the other
reports I heard was according,
you know, according to the Hamas
medical information source. In
addition to that, when they say
school, school, school is a
Saturday, I looked it up,
there's not a lot of kids who go
to school in the Muslim faith on
Saturday, but they kind of make
it sound like they killed kids.
They certainly started that way.
And I think they, they did kill
some senior dude, didn't they?
It's kind of omitted from the
reports they.
John C Dvorak: I thought that
senior dude that was killed with
some in some other operation
could
Adam Curry: be but this is now
being used as a wedge. This is
one of these examples where, I'm
sorry, this is a spokes hole
from the US State Department.
Unknown: This is one of these
examples where the law of
unintended consequences in war
created some just disastrous
consequences. You know, as as
the White House said today,
although we understand and
recognize that Israel needs to
target terrorists, that they're
deeply concerned and that Israel
needs to take more precautions
to protect civilians. From the
American point of view, what
they're using this for,
hopefully, is to going to give
some more momentum for the
ceasefire hostage deal, that it
kind of underscores the urgency.
It's kind of a now or never
time, which is why we're hoping
to have a kind of diplomatic
train of representatives from
the United States, with this
August 15 date set for this week
to finally bring the table the
parties to the table and reach
agreement in a very sad and
tragic way. Today's event gives
the United States additional
leverage and pressure, because
while there is this tragedy that
took place this morning in Gaza,
there's another disaster looming
on their northern border with
Hezbollah. You know, the Israel
understands that they need the
United States to back them up
right now, while they're
standing and bracing for
retaliatory attacks on both Iran
and Hezbollah, they're heavily
dependent on the United States
for weapons and other assets
intelligence. So what in the
best case scenario, this
morning's event can do is to
create some kind of momentum and
incentive for the United States
to say to Israel, look, we need
some concessions from you to
reach that cease fire in Gaza.
You need us more, in fact, than
we need you at this point. And
Netanyahu, it's time to seal the
deal.
Adam Curry: Okay? Working a deal
would look good for Kamala.
That's from the State
Department. So I'll, I'll take
that as some genuine
information. But still, we got
to keep the ships in the, in the
in the region. Can't, can't be
given up on that. Do. Just
speaking, yes, I
John C Dvorak: wanted to talk
about Ukraine before we oh,
goodness, do you get about that?
Okay, all right, mainly because
of the Ukraine going into
Russia. And I have the three
clips,
Adam Curry: yes. So they say
John C Dvorak: I'm, I'm, well,
you know, maybe, maybe it's not
suspicious, yeah. But I have
the, I have the three clips. One
is the newest Ukraine into
Russia. NPR clips, 55 seconds.
Unknown: Oh, a second,
John C Dvorak: yes. Newest yet
got it. Ukrainian
Unknown: president Zelensky is
praising his country's troops
for their incursion into western
Russia, which caught the Russian
military by surprise. As NPR.
Greg myri reports these were
Zelinsky most explicit remarks
so far on Ukraine's ongoing
offensive.
In his nightly video address,
President Zelensky said he'd
receive updates on the operation
to, quote, push the war into the
aggressors territory. He went on
to say that the offensive is
exactly the. Kind of pressure
that's needed, pressure on the
aggressor. Ukrainian officials
have been tight lipped about the
offensive that began with
Tuesday's surge into Russia's
curse region, but some
information is starting to
emerge. Ukrainian troops are
beginning to post on social
media from inside Russia. They
show themselves tearing down
Russian flags and standing in
front of road signs to indicate
they've entered a village or
town.
Adam Curry: Okay? Now I've read
reports everything from Putin is
freaked out. He's rushing around
state of emergency in Moscow,
and then I see reports of him
going, well, there's something
going on. We got to take care of
that. I'm sorry, there's
John C Dvorak: also some reports
about, I don't have the guy's
name, and I now I feel bad about
it, but there's some general
that has been running things,
this Ukraine thing, and they're
trying to get rid of them. On
the Ukraine side of the
Russians? No, no. On the Russian
side. Oh, typical
Adam Curry: Russian way of
getting rid of somebody. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So I have two
analysis clips. Is Ukraine
analysis one and two. Let's just
play these and then we can talk
about it. Olga Robinson
Unknown: there, well, we can
bring in Peter Dickinson now. He
is editor of Ukraine alert at
the Atlantic Council Think Tank
is joining us this evening from
Kyiv. Very good to have you with
us, Peter, once again. So I have
to say we've not been hearing
that much from Ukrainian
authorities specifically about
this. I did see one comment from
one Ukrainian MP, of course, I'm
sure who you're very familiar
with, Alexei concerenko, who
told the BBC that Ukraine was
trying to take back military
initiative here. What do you
make of what is happening?
Well, you're absolutely right.
The Ukrainian authorities have
been very tight lipped about
this whole affair. They've said
very little. President Zelensky
has alluded to it in some of his
recent comments, but nothing
specific, and certainly nothing
that would give a clear
indication of what Ukraine's
ultimate intentions are, and
that fits with a broader pattern
of surprise. The Ukrainians
managed to plan this operation,
it seems to be a fairly
sophisticated and complex
military offensive, and prepare
it and plan it over a presumably
extended period without anybody,
without anybody being aware of
these preparations. So
certainly, the Russians were
taken by surprise. It would seem
that Ukraine's western partners
were taken by surprise, and
frankly speaking, most people in
Kyiv here were also taken by
surprise. So they seem to have
achieved quite a remarkable
success given the openness of
the battlefield these days, the
sort of ubiquity of drones and
the sense, certainly in on the
battlefield in east and south
Ukraine, that there is no real
opportunity for secrecy here,
Ukraine has shown that they can
still have they can still spring
a surprise.
Adam Curry: Valerie garyism off,
who replaced Nicola Makarov and
currently serves as the
commander of all Russian forces
in Ukraine, considered one of
the most powerful men in Russia,
and one of three people to hold
access to Russia's nuclear
weapons. That's the guy you're
talking about could be.
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, this
report is from the BBC. Is kind
of weird, like it kind of
confirms your
Adam Curry: leg or say cookie
instead of weird.
John C Dvorak: Did I say weird?
He
Adam Curry: just said,
literally. Said weird.
John C Dvorak: Flag on I wish I
you know I'm not as good as you
as turning this stuff off, but
you have to keep hounding me. I
will trust me, kooky, uh, maybe
that, you know what really gets
to me, to my you, gets that you
had that submarine sound,
honking sound,
Unknown: yes, okay, put
John C Dvorak: it at the ready
and just honked me when I do it.
Unknown: There you go, that one.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right, at
the ready,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and that,
of course, this annoys our
listeners, yeah, well, and
producers, because it's like,
why are these guys so upset? Why
are these guys preoccupied with
what they say?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's a
thing. It's
John C Dvorak: just a thing. We
do this because we we do this
part of our part two,
Unknown: well, we'll talking
about that surprise. I mean, we
did also hear that Washington
was reportedly surprised by
this. And you know, I was at the
NATO summit just a few weeks ago
there in Washington, DC, and
there was this continued
conversation about using longer
range missiles to strike
military targets deeper within
Russia and many of the Baltic
leaders that I spoke to all for
it, Washington didn't back it at
that stage. So I just wonder,
what do you think some of these
Western military partners will
be making of what we're seeing?
Well, I
think that's one of the big one
of the big questions of this
operation, and perhaps also one
of the reasons about. I have
this operation again, you're
quite right to say that there
has been a lot of resistance
from Ukraine's partners,
particularly the US and
particularly Germany, about the
use of Western weapons in Russia
against Russian targets within
Russia, and Ukraine has been
pushing very strongly to have
those restrictions lifted, to
have the right to be able to
attack, and Ukrainians have been
very vocal saying they cannot be
expected to win a war whilst
they're being asked to fight
essentially there with one hand,
tight, mind, their backs. So
what we're seeing now with this
very open and for the first
time, an actual direct invasion
of Russia by the Ukrainian
military, is them saying, Well,
you don't need to fear
escalation. You don't need to
fear Russia's red lines, because
actually, Russia will not react
in some dramatic fashion in
terms of escalation. There's
nothing there. It's essentially
a bluff. So Ukraine is calling
the
Adam Curry: bluff. Well, they
did this. They didn't do this
with our necessarily, with our
stuff. They did it with F 16.
They did it with drones, which
is yay for Eric Schmidt.
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
what's going on with this, and
maybe they did or didn't use our
stuff, but they're not supposed
to use our stuff, not without
permission. I don't know this is
going to develop into this is
not a good thing. I don't think
i It's all we call their bluff.
Okay, well, you don't know that.
What was the bluff that we're
not going to do anything? It
just the whole thing makes no
sense. It just seems like they
they had a plan to do something
like this, and they did it to
prove they could do it. Was just
meaningless. Yeah, all right,
yeah, that's all I got on
Ukraine, okay,
Adam Curry: just on the military
front. One of my one of our
dudes named Ben, checked in, um,
CENTCOM Central Command, uh, has
some kind of cyber event going
on. It's been going on
throughout the whole weekend,
and even centcom.mil is
unresponsive, which is their
their main website, and you
didn't hear about that anywhere
else. No.
John C Dvorak: Could be Iran
again? Could be Russia. Could be
Ukraine. I like a rod
Adam Curry: and I and, well,
while we're on that, I have a
crowd strike, EULA, lawsuit
update from, from Rob. Clown
strike, yeah. Clown strike,
write that down. Yes. A clout,
you know, the boys, David boys,
his they're, suing. Yeah, the
big boys, the big boys. Boys,
big boys are suing. So delta,
you know, delta is really mad.
They're saying, Hey, man,
because you guys, we lost a lot
of money. But So Rob got a hold
of Delta's reply to crowd
strikes response, which was sent
by David Boyce himself. And Rob
says it's interesting because it
touches on the contractual
limitations on damages that
crowd strike, or clown strike
has cited. Boys has not yet
invoked the F word, meaning
fraud, but he does allege,
quote, gross negligence and
quote, willful misconduct. And
to support these allegations, he
cites crowdstrikes own reports
when they came out with a very
technical reason for what had
happened, as for fraud. He makes
a not so veiled suggestion that
discovery will dislodge even
more evidence. The letter speaks
of a second bug that made the
problem even worse, and response
to crowdstrikes claim that delta
caused its own troubles through
bad IT operations boys argues
that Delta was just relying on
CrowdStrike and Microsoft, so
they're estimating damages at
half a billion dollars. Yeah,
yeah. So this EULA thing may
fall apart. This may be
John C Dvorak: Let's hope so.
Wouldn't that be great?
Adam Curry: It would be
John C Dvorak: great if it
actually falls apart, because
then it opens the door to what
it does. It opens the door to
better quality products, amen,
because right now, it uses the
all purpose excuse to make crap
and sell it. And
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the
man who put the sea in clown
strike. Say hello to my friend
and the other end, the one, the
only. Mr. Jones, the
John C Dvorak: morning to you.
Mr. Adam crane, the morning
ship. See Bruce and knights out
there. Hello. Chelsea.
Unknown: El Salvador.
Adam Curry: I didn't, I think I
counted most of them. Oh, 2358
good troll count. We have more
trolls in the troll room than
Kamala Harris has at one of her
rallies. This is good way to go.
Trolls.
John C Dvorak: How many? I
didn't get the number, 2358 for
Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, it's down
100
Adam Curry: it is down 100 but
we're also at one hour and 40
minutes because you insisted
upon doing Ukraine. And if
there's anything that scares
troll, my fault, it's it's
Ukraine news. It's almost as bad
as
Unknown: Africa.
Adam Curry: The trolls are in
the troll room. You can join
them at troll room.io. We highly
recommend that it's fun. We're
one of the few podcasts that
have figured out this is the way
to do them. You do the show
live. You have a, in essence, a
live studio audience, although
much bigger than the phony
baloney Hollywood guys. And you
can say, and you're interacting.
I'm reading what people are
saying. Clip custodian sending
me links, you know, like, Oh,
it's this guy from Russia. This
is this expands. We have
producers. We have 2000 over
2000 producers who are on our
ass throughout the entire show.
This is good. This is how it
should be, because it's value
for value. Know what I'm saying.
Everyone contributes. We also
recommend that use a modern
podcast app to listen and be
alerted when we go live, or any
of the shows that go live, no
agenda stream, they have a ton
of live shows there, but there's
others as well. There's even a
mastodon account, I think it's
at podcast live, or something.
You can see, whenever a podcast
goes live, there's a lot,
there's always somebody going
live. And you can be alerted in
the podcast app, where you get
all your podcasts, we recommend
you drop your legacy app,
because so many more features
and with all the de platforming
that's going on three to four a
day from Spotify and from Apple,
why don't you just keep
listening to the podcast that
you want to and support them all
through the modern podcast app.
Podcast apps.com value for value
is still our model, although we
are desperately seeking an exit
strategy. We got another note
from somebody who's, uh, who
knows about the cable business,
and that wasn't quite so rosy as
as as the previous one with the
spreadsheet. The thing that
stuck out for me was, if you
guys are going to own cable,
forget putting it out as a
podcast. They'll never go for
it. You get those notes from
that producer? Yeah, I
Unknown: got them. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't know.
Didn't, didn't sound this great.
They
John C Dvorak: were just
Negative Nelly stuff. I mean,
you can say this about anything,
any project you want to do,
you'll find some expert, and
it's usually an expert, yes,
typically, we'll have a million
reasons why it won't work, which
is, though, just it's a good
sign,
Adam Curry: and we really know
the reason why it won't work is
because we don't want to do any
work, and that's why we're gonna
this. Will go, oh, yeah, we're
doing this because Mimi wants
it. That's why we're gonna do
this. It's gonna happen. We
don't have any advertising. It
turns out, most podcasts don't
have advertising. Wall Street
Journal ran a big article
saying, you know, all the money
goes to the top, you know, the
top 1% of podcasts. I gotta say
that's probably true, most of
the money, and even that, it's
all down. It's down. You know,
their their CPMs are, they're
down. And that's not even taking
into account inflation. You
know, it's not good out there,
and by the way, it's not good on
cable. It's not good anywhere.
You'd think we're in some kind
of recession. John, what do you
think? What does the hair and
hooker index say? Have you
checked recently?
John C Dvorak: Well, no, but
there's been a number of
articles written about the use
hair and hookers. They use hair
and strippers. Oh, well, and
there's strippers. The stripper
count is different than hookers,
because the hooker theory, you
can just look and you can see,
with the strippers, they have to
actually ask the strippers. You
have to ask them. And so the
hook, the hairs part, which you
do, you have to ask the
hairdressers, and they'll tell
you, Well, you know, people
aren't doing as much. And you
have to ask the hookers, I'm
sorry, not the hookers, the
strippers. You have to ask the
strippers or you get, are the
tips as good as they used to be,
that's right. And the guy,
she'll say, man, you know, maybe
not because you've been better,
yeah. And what's your girl gonna
do? Have you called Raven
recently?
Adam Curry: Have you checked in
with Raven? Ravens,
John C Dvorak: she's down in
Mexico, and so getting
Adam Curry: a butt lift.
Unknown: So
John C Dvorak: so we're not the
only ones who noticed this, but
you know, it's hard to say. I
mean, I get a lot of notes from
people saying, I know that
you're bitching about the
donations being way down, but
we're broke.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's that
absolutely well, I mean, an
entire tech network basically
went out of business.
John C Dvorak: The other thing
is, if you're broke, if you
bought a Starbucks coffee in the
last month,
Adam Curry: yeah, are you that
broke? Yeah, people make
choices, you know, well,
John C Dvorak: they should make
the choice against the Starbucks
coffee and give send us if Yeah,
what is it? What is one of those
coffee? Just nine bucks, $18
Adam Curry: I don't know it's
very expensive these days.
That's okay. Well, the the model
remains the same. If you want us
to stay then, then support us.
It's that simple. It's that
simple. Now, for today, we have
some people to thank in our
time, talents and treasure
equation, because that's what it
is. Dame Kenny Benn came in with
the artwork that we chose for
Episode 1684, titled that no
guff, a nice throwback call back
to the old times, old timey
language, no guff. And we didn't
find a lot of very inspiring
art. And this was, yeah, I think
we both said, Yeah, this is
good. And Dame Kenny Benn made a
very simple piece, but nice,
nice font that she used kind of
a, what is this? A typewriter
typewriter font? Is that? What
this is? Yes, one of the
typewriter fonts, and she just
put words on there. Bizarre,
quirky, wacky, kooky, no agenda.
Adam curry, John C Dvorak,
functional. And, for my money,
very usable, because that was
what was playing in everybody's
mind, this weird word with Tim
waltz getting credited for it.
So it worked. It was spot on.
Now, there were other things,
you
John C Dvorak: know, the thing
is, I remember I was pushing for
package filtered, yes, you were
from Sir Shug. I thought it
would be
Adam Curry: misunderstood. I
John C Dvorak: don't think you
didn't like it at all. You hated
it. I
Adam Curry: didn't hate it. I
John C Dvorak: just said I
pulled rank. And said, we're
gonna do bizarre, quirky, wacky
cookie. I
Adam Curry: did not pull rank.
You keep. This is a lie. It's a
string of lies. You keep. You
keep stringing up. It's no good.
John C Dvorak: I eventually
agreed that, you know that the
Well, there was a lot of we
haven't done, we haven't done a
pure font or type true cover for
years. We have not, and they,
they're very kind. This is a
good it's, it's legit. So
Adam Curry: it was very legit.
It was, it was super legit. It
was good. It was good. And I
liked it. I liked it. Um, a lot
of AI, again, AI. I mean, it's
just going down. There was a big
study that came out let me see,
um, adverse impacts of revealing
the presence of artificial
intelligence technology in
product and service descriptions
on purchase intentions, colon
the mediating role of emotional
trust and the moderating role of
perceived Risk. Synopsis,
according to CNN. Brands should
avoid this popular term. It's
turning off customers. So people
do according to the study, this
is the journal of hospitality,
marketing and management, but
they did have 5000 people in the
study. AI, is not a good thing
to promoting your product. Take
that Apple iPhone, of course
they they have Apple
intelligence, which is
different,
John C Dvorak: but they can see
this being a fact, it's annoying
to hear it all the time,
constantly. Ai, this AI that,
you know, it's bogus, yeah,
Adam Curry: most of it isn't AI.
It's just some algorithm or
something. Yeah, exactly, but
people are turned off by it, so
no good. Good job. Tim Cook, see
how that works out for you. And
of course, because this also
sucks. I mean, most AI art just
is no good.
John C Dvorak: I like the AI art
that came in that has a picture
of of it's called cuddly Timmy,
and it's a bear
Adam Curry: came in today that
that isn't by drop co
John C Dvorak: I think it came
in before Today, because I saw
submitted,
Adam Curry: july 11. July 11.
What? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: seems to be
inaccurate.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think
everything seems like it's July.
So I think it came in today,
August 11.
John C Dvorak: That does seem
well, whenever it came in. I'm
pretty sure I saw it yesterday
or
Adam Curry: the day before,
yeah, but not, not on a show.
Day. It wasn't, wasn't on a
show. It wasn't. But whatever
the
John C Dvorak: case, I just like
it because it looks like that
guy, Tim, the tampon. Tim, it
looks like him and it's but it's
a cuddly teddy bear looking
thing. I don't know what prompts
he did to get that to work, but
I thought it was very funny
personally. And it's all AI
Adam Curry: well so far. I mean,
by the way, artists, jury is
still out. I'm not, I'm not all
in, like John is yet, and all I
see is AI stuff. More AI, stop
it. Clip, custodian just did a
pixel. Mike, there's the anti AI
art. Okay. I. Well, even prompt
jockeys are appreciated here. No
agenda, Art generator.com,
everybody can everybody can
participate. You can play along
while you're listening. You can
see what people are uploading.
It's always fun to see what
artists think is going to catch
our attention. I'm very anti AI.
And when it comes to art, it
just all looks kind of the same.
It's like, okay, and you can use
it as a good, as a tool, you can
use it as a tool,
John C Dvorak: but it's just a
bigot. You're bigoted. Yes, I
Adam Curry: am AI bigoted. A, i,
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And am I reading this correctly?
That sir cross threaded wheel
stud came in, then saved the
week? Yeah, wow.
John C Dvorak: It's actually
three. He considers this. And we
have to obviously credit three
people. Three donations, yes,
three donations of 11, 111,
1.11,
Adam Curry: but if you, if you
do a 333,
what is it? Three? This is a
rebel as a donation,
John C Dvorak: 3333 33
rubbliser, yeah, India.
Unknown: Hang out. Mike,
standby, 3333
33 Rob Eliza, out.
Now, I
Adam Curry: don't know now, is
He? Is this a new guy being
knighted as Sir cross threaded
wheel stud, because I don't
believe so I don't remember this
name. I'll read his note here,
which is pen. We have him on the
List of United we do not. That's
why I'm questioning it. Ah, so
Okay, there we have a conundrum.
Well, I mean, I don't have his
name. He says, Well, here's
Okay, here's why I thought he
should be on the list. ITM two
Switcheroos, 11111, 11111 for my
sweet sister, Dame Cece. 1111111
for Reed hot, hotly Huntley, in
honor of his late father, who
was my cousin and a help to
them.
John C Dvorak: I can help to
all.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, help to
all. Selfishly, I take credit
for 111111, please award me the
title of Sir cross threaded
wheel stud. Thanks for sharing
your insights. So I know he
needs to be knighted, okay, but
I don't know his name, so we
just say congratulations. Well,
he
John C Dvorak: does, since he
didn't, I mean, it's on the
check, I can go get his name,
but since he didn't put it on
his note, I assume that he wants
not to be known by his name, but
by Sir cross wheel stud. Well,
Adam Curry: he will be knighted
today, and I think appropriately
so. And we thank you very, very
much. I'm gonna just throw out a
gratuitous karma for him. That's
awesome.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Onward with Sir
Victor in Corvallis, Oregon,
673, 71 with this donation of
640, plus fees, I'm upgrading
from Baronet to Baron, all
right, and you're on the list
for the upgrade and my new
title, Sir Victor, Sir Victor,
the Baron of the Willamette
Valley in Corvallis Orion. Okay,
we got you.
Adam Curry: Thank you, Sir
Victor, Sir Jack ash in
Snohomish, Washington, 388 dot
88 and this is a congratulations
for John and Mimi. ITM gents,
congrats to John and Mimi. Very
respectfully, Sir Jack ash and
we thank you, Sir Jack ash,
John C Dvorak: this one here
blows up my spreadsheet. You
might want to take it, sir
Adam Curry: Matthew in Hanover,
Pennsylvania, 333, 42 he says,
I've been a man overboard for
too long. My last donation was
in 2017 please deduce me.
Unknown: You've been deduced. I
have been
Adam Curry: back listening for
the last six weeks or so, since
before the assassination attempt
on Trump. With this being a
momentous year in my life, I'm
requesting some various forms of
karma. Okay, on July 24 I turn.
40 july 29 I celebrated 18 years
of marriage to my wonderful
wife. I also made my wife filet
John. Steak o Poivre with, oh,
John's No, I also made my wife
filet John. I guess that's it.
Steak, OK with roasted he
fileted you. She fileted you. I
don't know. Steak. Or poi with
roasted sweet potatoes. Risotto.
After a battle with our local
school district over the
placement of my youngest son, we
got an autism support classroom
open where they should already
have where they should already
have had one after 15 years
working with my in laws as a
financial advisor, we have begun
ownership transition so they can
finally retire. A big hiring
karma please as we search for an
additional license advisor to
help support our clients, thanks
for all that you both continue
to do. Glad to be back at the
table enjoying a nice old
fashioned Adam dealer's choice
of jingles, please. That blows
out my spreadsheet too.
John C Dvorak: He says, the ones
I put together for my knighthood
were a nightmare.
Adam Curry: Sir Matthew, a
knight Since 2017 one of the
founding producers back in 2010
PS, in 2023 I was diagnosed with
celiac disease and ADHD. So that
was fun. Unfortunately, I did
the moderna covid vaccine in
2020 which triggered the celiac
maybe, maybe anything is
possible. Do you have a you have
a jingle that you'd like to play
for him?
John C Dvorak: I think we've
have, have not played the share
a secret jingle forever.
Adam Curry: Okay, okay, let's
play the share secret jingle.
Oh,
Unknown: there's no winning. We
don't like to foster a
competitive atmosphere, but we
laugh a lot now. Everyone hug
and share a secret. Yeah,
Adam Curry: good choice. Enemy
and a karma. You did need some
karma, but give him that you've
got
Unknown: karma.
John C Dvorak: Onward with
surfer. Pursuit of peace and
tranquility of three, three,
3.33. He sent a note. In keeping
it simple, ITM, he says,
donation for August, 33333, love
the show. Please grant me the
title of Viscount per accounting
below, and he's got all the
accounting. Adam, please throw
in a penny to align my total
donations with the universe.
There it is. No jingles, no
karma. Sincerely, sir, pursuit
of peace and tranquility in the
lands of red clay and cherry
trees beautiful, and he's got a
lot of numbers that he's added
up.
Adam Curry: Hey, there's there's
Jason rich. I know Jason rich,
he's a rancher. He's a good
rancher. Called up in Colorado,
I want to say, let's read his
note, 333, ITM gents, longtime
listener, second time donor,
yes. Our regenerative ranching
business, which includes direct
to consumer beef and hogs, one
of the founding members of the
beef initiative, now also
includes agritourism, farm stays
and are on farm store. Our
August and September bookings
have fallen off, so we are
offering a 20% 20% discount to
no agenda listeners with code
ITM 20 on our booking website,
rich ranches. Dot, holiday
future.com that's W, R, I, C, H,
R, a, n, C, H, E, S, rich
ranches. Dot holiday future.com,
come visit western Colorado,
enjoy local food and wine. Shake
your rancher's hand and support
a small, regenerative ranch.
Thank you for your courage.
Jason and Theresa. Rich, Rick.
He says Rick, I always pronounce
it rich, but I guess it's Rick.
And he has you can also find him
on Airbnb. That's so nice. Thank
you very much. Jason and I met
him at White Oak pastures in in
Georgia, when I went down there,
nice guy. I'll give them both a
karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: We have another
long note from anonymous in St
John's, Arizona. 202. I started
listening to no agenda in 2017
is my fourth donation. I think
the reason no agenda donations
are down is no agenda has a lot
more competition from
independent Dissident Voices
over the last couple of years,
thanks mainly to rumble and x
and even YouTube, as they're
relaxing their censorship.
Adam Curry: Oh, please. YouTube
is censoring people left and
right,
John C Dvorak: which gives,
brings us to the bonus clip,
yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. This was kind
of a sad moment.
Unknown: Long time, Google,
Adam Curry: I got it. I'm sorry.
I got it. Okay, one more time.
Let's just pretend we didn't do
any
Unknown: of that. Long time
Google executive and former
YouTube CEO Susan wojcick has
died. She had lung cancer. She
played a key role in the success
of Google, coming on as one of
the first employees after
renting her garage to Google's
founders for almost a decade,
wojcick was the head of YouTube,
which she had urged Google to
acquire. Susan. Susan wojcick,
also a wife and mother of five,
was 56 years old.
Adam Curry: 56 man. Lung cancer
is the worst. My mom died
John C Dvorak: of lung cancer.
Yeah, kind of a Turbo version.
Yes.
Adam Curry: It took, yeah. My
mom was alive a lot longer than
Susan's sickness that went very,
very fast. Turbo, gee. And she
really like censoring all of
that misinformation about covid
and vaccines. Yep, don't want to
say anything about it. Little
John C Dvorak: irony there. But
yeah, it's not the time to speak
ill of the dead. No, no, sir.
Um, that said no. Agenda is
still my go to source for
reliable, independent
information. What's really going
on in the world? You guys have a
serious you guys have serious
competition these days, and
almost every other source I
follow is utilizing value for
value, but all in all, you guys
are still the best, okay,
however, value for value is
spreading, and those of us are
willing to financially support
quality work, we spread much
thinner than we were even two or
three years ago. Well,
Adam Curry: hold on a second, it
would be just dandy if everybody
had a sustaining donation. You
can lower the amount, but
everyone spreads it out. That's
a pipe dream, but that would be
good, but people don't do that.
No,
John C Dvorak: I took Adam's
advice and refused to have my
photo taken by TSA on a recent
flight from Phoenix to Oakland,
I've already been photographed
for their facial identity
database. However, the
sneakiness of this program is
what caused me to refuse
continued participation. The TSA
agent told me no problem and
just made sure my ID matched my
boarding pass. However, when I
went through the hands up. Don't
shoot computer screening. I was
flagged for suspicious items in
both my crotch and buttocks
area. Hey, what's that? Patted
down like a criminal. I
complained to TSA supervisors,
but to no avail. Good luck. The
flight was then delayed. In my
honest opinion, due to my non
compliance, I have good reason
to believe TSA was reviewing the
video from my encounter, trying
to determine if they had reason
to ban me from my flight.
Eventually, they cleared the
flight for boarding, and I was
able to board without incident,
although I had, it's a chilling
effect, by the way, without
incident, although I had airline
personnel giving me suspicious
looks during the process, What's
Adam Curry: that in your crotch?
John C Dvorak: My father grew up
in El Cerrito. We took the ride
there. During my trip to the
bear, I talked about John and
Adam with my parents many times,
jokingly, acting like I actually
knew you guys. Obviously I
don't, but sometimes it feels
that way from being a long time
listen to the podcast. Oh yeah.
And he says I was disappointed I
missed the Bay Area meetup and
half jokingly told my parents
that we should try to find
John's house and stop by. Yeah,
I'm sure John would be happy to
hear that my parents talked me
out of this.
Adam Curry: What are you
packing? Anonymous? Anyway.
Thank you very much. Dan
Richmond, Al Kuwa, altua,
Florida.
John C Dvorak: Been a while.
Ella, Ella
Adam Curry: Alachua, there you
go. Thank you for something like
that. $200.66 been a while,
guys, please deduce you've been
deduced. Adam, you were in the
recent Bon Jovi documentary on
Hulu, filmed in two 2022 to 2023
Yes, hopefully. I was credited
as VJ emeritus. It featured Jon
Bon Jovi constantly surrounded
by masked servants. Not only
that, he's also lost his voice
and his mind. Sad, yeah, if you
just go on YouTube and look for
Jon, Bon Jovi lost his voice.
Oh, man. I
John C Dvorak: mean, happened?
Oh,
Adam Curry: he can't sing
anymore. He can't he can't hit
the notes. Did
John C Dvorak: he blow his vocal
cords out from the screaming?
Adam Curry: I think so. I mean,
he just can't. It was a
Unknown: living on a prayer.
He's like, Oh,
Adam Curry: it's no good.
Everyone, everyone in South
Jersey is talking about it. Hey,
man, Johnny lost. His voice is
set when you're a singer. That
sucks. Yeah, I would think
John C Dvorak: that really does.
Boys put a lot of strain on his
voice, but it could happen. PG,
Kelly's next on the list. He's
in Los Angeles, California, 200
bucks, Adam John and the rest of
the no agenda. Listeners, I come
to you in great need. Many of
you already know that I lost my
sister. PG, Chris, Linda, one
year ago today, I've been
working with attorneys, and
finally found out that does I
find? Found one that does both
medical records reviews as well
as medical malpractice, wrongful
death long suits, if wrongdoing
is found. There are many odd
issues with Linda's care in the
Hollywood Presbyterian Medical
Center. In Question, two. And
question that questions. It's
what it should say that need
investigating. My attorney is
anxious to get started. However,
I spend all my money, I reach
out to you and help with raising
funds so I can move in the next
step, the medical records
review, donate, promote, share
the link, whatever you can do to
get the word out. And it's help
fund Linda's extensive medical
records review, and it's, I
never heard of this operation.
Adam Curry: Give, send, go,
yeah, it's the Christian
crowdfunding site. Gibson. Oh,
gives,
John C Dvorak: send to go
justice for Linda with a Y, uh,
prayers are welcome. Bless you
all. PG, Kelly. PG,
Adam Curry: he's been listening
to the show, I think from the
from Show, episode number one,
he's been around, been around
for a long, long time. All
right. All right, brother. We
hope that works out. It's uh,
give sango.com/justice number
for Linda with a Y. And there's
another Linda John. You might as
well, uh, Linda
John C Dvorak: Lou patkin shows
up. She's in Lakewood, Colorado,
believe it or not, and she says
she would like some jobs karma.
And then she says for a resume
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Everyone likes her jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma
Adam Curry: that little freeze.
Hey, that's it. Don't know we
have one more. Joshua Parker in
Round Rock, Texas, 200 Associate
Executive producer. He says,
Keep up the great work. I'm just
chipping in for some that, some
of that sweet, sweet jobs karma.
Josh Parker from Austin, Thank
you, Josh jobs,
Unknown: jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs
Adam Curry: karma. There. You
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years. Thank you all again for
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1685,
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth.
Adam Curry: Shut up. I have a
John C Dvorak: couple of clips
that probably liven things up.
Okay, it's about deep fake porn.
Unknown: Well, it's about time.
Adam Curry: So, whereas we like
to say Veep fake,
John C Dvorak: and so here we
go. There's a four parter. This
is from PBS.
Adam Curry: What a four parter
on PBS?
Unknown: Yeah, PBS. Wow. Who
expected that?
John C Dvorak: That's fake porn.
PBS is the first clip sexual
Unknown: images posted online
without one's consent have long
been a problem, starting with
revenge porn, but deep fake and
AI technology's ability to
manipulate photos and even
videos has made things worse.
Even Taylor Swift has been a
victim of AI generated sexual
now, Google has announced new
steps to combat sexually
explicit deep fakes in their
search results, but there is no
one size fits all solution for
this complex problem. Paresh.
Dave is a senior writer at Wired
who's been reporting on all of
this and joins us now. Paresh,
thank you so much for joining
us. How quickly have we seen the
rise of non consensual sexual
images online, and what is
driving this?
I mean, it's huge. It's a huge
problem. The doubling of these
reports over the last couple of
years is what we've been seeing
in places like the UK and the
US, and it's in part driven by
those deep fakes that you were
talking about.
It is also driven in part by the
porn industry, right? And this
is all part of the porn economy.
Now. People are paying to
download images and videos of
this nature,
the non consensual nature, yes,
but I would draw a distinction
between porn and this non
consensual image based sexual
abuse, which is not considered
porn. You know, porn is
generally viewed as more
consensual. Now
Adam Curry: I just want to say
one of our producers, Eric
pepper, decided he was going to
send me every single back issue.
You of Wired magazine that he
possesses, which has been quite
tedious. I go to the PO Box, and
the guy comes out with, like,
what is this? Comes out with a
trolley, and Wired Magazine has
been wrong on just about every
single cover they have ever
published. Seriously, the web is
dead. This machine will change.
The world
John C Dvorak: is dead. One pill
should you should take shots at
some of these covers and put
together a compendium to to
prove this point of yours that
you're making? Well,
Adam Curry: there's a lot of AI
stuff from 2002
John C Dvorak: that was the,
yeah, okay.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's all,
it's all. Everything they've
done is wrong. So, okay, let's
hear about, let's hear
John C Dvorak: what the well,
that doesn't mean that this
guy's off. I actually was
skeptical of this character
because he came from Wired, but
then at the same time, he's
actually making some decent
points. Okay, he's It's okay.
It's okay.
Adam Curry: Well, this, it's not
a cover, it's a PBS special.
Unknown: Yeah. Thank you.
According to the company
sensitive, 96% of deep fakes are
sexually explicit and feature
women who didn't consent to the
creation of the content, who is
most vulnerable to being
victimized in this way,
everyone. There's been recent
surveys that have shown it's
men. You know, it's young boys.
There's a huge trend of
sextortion that's been
happening. It's anyone that has
their photo on the internet,
which at this point is pretty
much all of us.
Google has said purash That it
will reduce the prominence and
relevance of deep fake images in
its searches that addresses deep
fakes, but what about actual
images that are used without
consent? Does Google go far
enough to address those victims?
So Google already takes those
measures that you described that
they've just recently applied to
deep fakes, but what it reported
recently is that the key issue
here is that there are numerous
ideas on the table that Google
could adopt to reduce the burden
on victims of image based sexual
abuse. These are ideas proposed
by survivors, their advocates,
even employees within Google.
And Google has just refused to
adopt these ideas, in part
because they're worried about
over censorship, in part because
they're worried is coming off as
too much of a regulator of the
internet. But there are some
basic ideas here that is just
unfathomable. Why they haven't
pursued them.
Adam Curry: Well, if Google does
that, I'd say time to short your
alphabet stock. Who wants to use
them now? No, good.
John C Dvorak: Well, like you
said, you had them done Jack,
no,
Adam Curry: the but they they're
threatening.
Unknown: Part three, you use
this term, image based sexual
abuse. Can you describe some of
what happens to victims who find
themselves in this situation?
Yeah.
I mean, it's people who might
send an image consensually. You
know that they've taken
themselves a selfie, and then
they've shared it with a friend,
and then you know that friend
has seeking revenge. Something
goes wrong in that relationship.
They posted online. This could
be surreptitious recordings of
people. There's a number of ways
someone could be, you know,
suffering from this issue. And
then the big issue is then they
have to go to the place where
they were traumatized, go to the
internet and find all these
images, try to get it taken
down. It's a lot of burden on
the actual victims or survivors
here to get rid of all this
material from the internet, and
it takes years and years
sometimes, well, that's
something that all of us,
parents deal with and we talk to
our children. If your photo
shows up on online, it could be
there forever. How difficult is
the process for victims to take
this stuff down, and how willing
are the technology companies to
meet victims halfway and help
them? One
of the things that's remarkable
here is that there's a whole
cottage industry of companies
that have popped up, charging
sometimes 1000s of dollars, you
know, per sort of project or
initiative to help victims get
their images taken down. So this
problem is so bad that there's
like an economy that has been
created around it, and these
companies help the victims find
the images. They even use AI to
automatically find the images as
they pop up, immediately, send
take down notices. But it is but
it is a pain. Sometimes
companies will ask for identity
verification, so you have to
send them your ID, or they might
question whether it was
actually, you know, non
consensual. You know, maybe
you've been an only fans
creator, and then you have, you
know, images of yourself leaked
online. You know, Google. My
question, Well, are you still
commercializing those images?
It's a whole mess that these
survivors have to go through.
Sounds
Adam Curry: to me like this guy
is an only fans creator,
John C Dvorak: that's. Finish it
up, besides
Unknown: tech companies, who
else can be addressing this
problem? Is this a law
enforcement and regulatory
policy problem as well?
Absolutely. One of the things
that I heard consistently from
employees at Google and
reporting my story was that, why
aren't law enforcement doing
more to go after the criminals.
Why haven't we criminalized work
to do more of this behavior
across the country? There's, you
know, most states have
criminalized aspects of this,
but there's certainly not enough
effort from law enforcement to
go after the underlying
criminals, in part because, you
know, sometimes they may be
overseas, or even when they are
brought to justice, you can't
actually maybe get them in jail
or get them to pay up the
damages that they're supposed to
that
is Paresh devay, a senior editor
at Wired, joining us. Thanks so
much, Paresh. Gosh,
Adam Curry: I'd hope there'd be
some kind of big payoff on that
one.
John C Dvorak: No, it was just a
flop. It was a dud, like it
ended off it the cops didn't do
anything. And there's you're
gonna take years to get rid. It
sounds like a, like a ridiculous
situation that probably wouldn't
exist at the porn laws. In fact,
in general, if there were, were
a little more, I'd say it's like
they were in the 50s.
Adam Curry: Oh, is that's what
you want a very popular stance.
It's not
John C Dvorak: popular and it's
not what I want. I'm just saying
that that would solve the
problem. Let me
Adam Curry: do a couple other AI
stories I have to the first one
is in your backyard, new at 11.
Unknown: They say their
neighbors are too noisy, only
the new neighbors aren't people.
They're way more cars honking in
a parking lot, and neighbors say
it's keeping them up all night.
NBC Bay Area's Alyssa Gord shows
us what they're seeing, and
hearing that sound honking
is waking up neighbors lately,
in this South of Market
neighborhood, I
get woken up at, you know, four
o'clock in the morning, and I
look down and I'm convinced now
it is coming from the way most
neighbors
shared videos of driverless
Waymo cars filing into the lot
and backing into spots, which
appears to trigger honking from
the other way, most the cars
are robotic, and they're honking
at each other, and there's no
one in the cars when it's
happening. And that's absurd.
That I think is the most
frustrating thing apart about
this is that there's just nobody
to talk to, and even at the
corporate level, I'm finding it
difficult, not impossible.
Neighbors say they've reported
this to Waymo and are now taking
to social media to get the
company's attention. In a
statement, Waymo says it's aware
its cars may briefly honk while
navigating its parking lots way
more, says it has identified the
cause and is in the process of
implementing a fix. But these
residents say they want to see a
more neighborly response from
the new autonomous vehicle
company on the block.
We love having them there. We
just would like them to stop
honking their horn at four in
the morning repeatedly.
John C Dvorak: You make a story
that went by. I'm here and I
haven't heard this story. It's
great. Well, if
Adam Curry: you heard the
honking, you'd be all over it.
Imagine that the honk, and
you're right. It's like Furbies.
Unknown: Me,
Adam Curry: I found this to be
quite interesting. JP, Morgan,
who doesn't know him is now
deploying AI chat bots and
knowledge llms across all of
their 60,000 employees. You
Unknown: recall back in April JP
Morgan, CEO Jamie diamond, said
that generative AI was, in his
opinion, going to be as
potentially significant as the
advent of things like
electricity and the internet,
and then it would ultimately be
sort of a coach sitting on every
employee's desk, sort of helping
them out, helping him write
emails, generate reports, do
research, things like that. And
now we have an idea of what he
was really talking about. So
they rolled out about to about
60,000 employees, and
ultimately, I believe, hope to
have it really ubiquitous within
the bank, a program called LLM
suite. And LLM suite is
essentially their front end,
their wrapper, their portal into
large language models of open
AI, which is the, you know, the
LLM behind chat, GPT, and
ultimately will be the LLM
behind several other models will
be a port of several other
models of LMS, and so this is
essentially going to be sitting
on JP Morgan employees desks,
and it's going to be helping
them do cognitive tasks. And is
really kind of a surprising
Advent for this technology.
Andrew, Oh, well.
Adam Curry: So this was CNBC,
and which I like it when they do
send negative stories. There
wasn't really that negative, but
Andrew Ross Sorkin did ask an
intelligent question. You know,
ever since the I know, ever
since the deregulation of the
banks, you know, you can both be
a bank and an investment bank,
and they're supposed to. Be the
HERE IT COMES Chinese wall.
Remember that John the Chinese
wall? Yeah, the old
John C Dvorak: Chinese wall.
What was the Chinese wall
supposed to separate one thing
from another so they don't
interact? Well,
Adam Curry: how does that work?
In this case, you recall,
Unknown: last year, they
actually banned, they restricted
chat GPT from employee use, and
that's because they really
didn't want to expose their
proprietary JP Morgan data to
the models and train the models
of open AI, so they're
containerizing their data, and
this is an ability for them to
use the data of JP Morgan
without exposing it to the
outside world. But, yeah,
they're going to be able to use
it to do research, to do sort
of,
right, but I'm saying but, but I
must. I'm assuming there's going
to be an even more Chinese walls
inside. I mean, they're gonna
have to containerize control
parts of this. So, you know, the
folks in the wealth management
business can't be searching
stuff that would exist in the
banking business, the bankers
shouldn't be searching stuff,
yeah, from the analysts, right?
Like, how does this all work? I
would assume that's right,
Andrew, that there are specific
rules and obviously walls
between the different parts of
the business. You wouldn't want,
you know, for instance, in
wealth management folks to get
potential data access from the
investment bank, for instance.
And you know, they really took,
I mean, it took them about a
year to create this portal, and
I think it's really because they
want to do it in a way that was
data secure. Andrew, yeah, data
Adam Curry: secure,
containerized. Please. Doubt it.
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, short, but also,
John C Dvorak: there's a Chinese
wall or not, I'd like to have
some rationale for this, for the
Chinese wall, I'm no, I mean,
they've deregulated the banks,
so they can do all these
different things. They can be
insurance companies, they can be
investment bankers, they can be
venture capitalists, they can be
banks, actual banks. They can do
all these things. So what if
they interact with each other? I
Adam Curry: just want to go into
that LLM and say, how much did
Jamie diamond pay Epstein? Show
me that, show me that do
John C Dvorak: the LLM and
exploit its knowledge base? Yes,
Adam Curry: only if it's
containerized, though. So since
we're in big tech, AI, the
socials, we must go to the
United Kingdom, still in chaos.
Oh,
John C Dvorak: do I have any
clips on this? I
Adam Curry: have clips. I have a
couple of good ones. I think the
first one is I have one now. But
let's put first. I'll put a
little bit of, little bit of
parameters around what's going
on here. So there is, you know,
this talk of, we're, you know,
we're arresting anybody who does
something wrong online. And I do
have a copy of the the Online
Safety Act, which, now, this was
passed in 2023, it's still kind
of being implemented, but it
puts new duties on tech firms to
protect their users from illegal
content, which, under the Act
can include content involving
hatred, disorder, provoking
violence, or certain instances
of disinformation In the riots
that have taken place in the UK
since the three little girls
were stabbed at the Taylor Swift
uh dance a THON, more than 700
or actually, 741 arrests have
been made. How many of those do
you think relate to online
offenses? Which seems to be the
only thing I read about on X
news social
John C Dvorak: This is the
question for me. Yes, I'd say
100 not even 32
Adam Curry: Oh, curry two. But
here, here is the here's some
honcho saying we're coming after
you. We will
Unknown: throw the full force of
the law of people. And whether
you're in this country,
committing crimes on the streets
or committing crimes from
further afield online, we will
come after you talk
to me about that, because we
have seen some high profile
figures whipping up the hatred
you talked about it in there
with the officers, in fact,
about this being added to by
online commentary. I mean, I'm
even thinking of the likes of
Elon Musk getting involved. What
are you considering when it
comes to dealing with people who
are whipping up this kind of
behavior from behind a keyboard
and maybe in a different
country, keyboard
warriors. Being a keyboard
warrior does not make you safe
from the law. You can be guilty
of offenses, of incitement, of
stirring up racial hatred. There
are numerous terrorist offenses
regarding the publishing of
material, all of those offenses
are in play if people are
provoking hatred and violence on
the streets, and we will come
after those individuals, just as
we will physically confront on
the streets the thugs and the
jobs who are taking who are
causing the problems for
communities.
Adam Curry: Now I really like
how this has played out online,
and I. Really only have x and
Mastodon because it's always
CAPTIONED BY they're going to
extradite Americans? I don't
think so. But I would say if
you're posting on x, if you're
posting Hey, go and kick those
immigrants ass, you probably
should not visit the UK. Here is
an example of someone being
convicted to 20 months for an
online crime
Unknown: you have been committed
for sentence having pleaded
guilty to an offense of
publishing written material
which is threatening, abusive or
insulting, intending thereby to
stir up racial hatred. The
context of your offending is
that it arises out of the civil
unrest and disorder in many
parts of the United Kingdom on
the night of the second and
third of August, the Britannia
hotel in Leeds was attacked by
people who threw missiles,
missiles which damaged windows.
At the time, there were 210
occupants, many of whom were
foreign refugees and asylum
seekers, you took to social
media in order to encourage
others towards participation in
the attacks upon the hotel as is
recognized on your behalf, this
offense is so serious that an
Immediate custodial sentence is
unavoidable. Would you stand
please? The sentence that I pass
has been reduced by 1/3 to
reflect your guilty plea. The
sentence is one of 20 months
imprisonment.
John C Dvorak: Now I you know,
this is the clip. Do you never
see the guy? Correct, and
there's no background. You don't
see anybody, but this guy. I
think this is staged. Could be,
that could be, but that does
seem I saw this clip. I said
this is phony. There's some
phony about this clip could
Adam Curry: be. There may be
some specific rules about what
you can film and what angle you
can film, but I just like to say
so there's a lot of people that
we have, a lot of keyboard
warriors in America. I'd be
like, Oh yeah, come and take it.
Come on. Take
Unknown: it. Lie me. We
Adam Curry: kicked you. We
already did this. We tried it.
You came to Jim. We kicked you
out. We killed you. I will
remind everybody that if it
were, if it had not switched to
the immunity, President Trump
might actually be in some
trouble, because even in the
United States, there are some
limitations to your freedom of
speech. You can't I mean
inciting a riot or an erection,
as everyone said, meaning
insurrection. There are some
limitations around what you can
do. Am I correct in saying that?
John, just wanna make sure I'm
correct. I don't know that you
are, isn't it? You can't yell
fire in a crowded theater.
John C Dvorak: They always say
that, but where's the law
against it?
Adam Curry: I don't know. That's
why I'm asking.
John C Dvorak: So as far as I'm
concerned, you can say fire in a
theater, and maybe you might get
beat up, which is appropriate,
Adam Curry: very appropriate.
But it seems like this is, this
has just become a, I mean,
literally, Twitter slash x is,
is now all this, and I've tried
to get out of the algo hole, and
it's just all this. It's just
all of, oh my God, and, and the
way that's playing out in the UK
is they're using it to come
after people Nigel Farage is
one. I
Unknown: did more. I did more to
get rid of the BNP as a
political force in Britain than
anybody else in the country.
Amplified this misinformation, I
said, suggest, give us clarity.
You didn't just say that,
though, Nigel I did. Also said
the internet was awash with all
sorts of theories, all of which
proved to be unfounded, yes, but
that's what led to the riots in
Southport. But you indulged in
those theories. I've still been
told whether this person was on
a list or not. I don't know the
answer that one. Do you know? I
don't know, but this legitimate.
You think we deserve to know? I
absolutely. I think at least my
question is valid, but not in a
way that you put it, because you
know what you're doing. You
suggested some reports suggest
that he was known to the
security service, that they came
on in a boat, that he was an
asylum seeker. That's not true.
And I didn't know my question.
Did you know that I was getting
true? I don't know now whether
this man was no promoting those
reports because I want to know
the truth. I wanted to know it
then, and I want to know it now.
John C Dvorak: So he What the
hell crappy show was that where
they talk all over each other,
oh,
Adam Curry: that's LBC. That's
where, that's where it's all
playing out on LBC. But it
really seems like they want us.
They want to, they want to get
some. They want a guy, and that
guy is Tommy Robinson.
Unknown: Tommy Robinson, a man
who has been staring up anti
Muslim hatred online for
decades, is back in the
spotlight, accused of
influencing the worst riots
Britain has seen in over a
decade by spreading anti Muslim
disinformation to his 900,000
followers on apps,
so before people get on quick
and condemn the Angry Men that
anger is justified.
So who is Tommy Robinson? Tommy
Robinson, whose real name is
Steven yatse Lennon, is a well
known anti Muslim far right
figure in the UK. Co founded the
English Defense League, an anti
Muslim organization in 2009
Robinson's anti Muslim
activities heightened a few
years later when grooming gang
scandals in towns across England
rocked the UK. Robinson took
Alliance from Islamic scriptures
to suggest on street grooming as
a uniquely Muslim issue. Twitter
banned Robinson in 2018 and meta
followed suit a year later for
his anti Muslim posts under Elon
Musk's Twitter takeover,
Robinson's account was
reinstated in late 2023 over the
years, Robinson has raised
millions of pounds in donations
from followers. A guardian
investigation in 2018 found that
he also receives financial,
political and moral support from
foreign groups and individuals,
including us, think tanks, right
wing Australians and Russian
trolls. Where is Tommy Robinson
now? Robinson has been abroad
since 28 July. He left the UK on
the eve of a court hearing over
contempt of court proceedings.
He has since been supported on a
luxury resort on Greek
administered southern Cyprus.
Now with far right violence
causing disorder across the UK
and arrests underway, many are
asking what will happen to Tommy
Robinson. Well,
Adam Curry: they want him. They
want Him, for sure. They want
him. By the way, there's only
one case case law in first
amendment that I can find it's
Brandenburg versus Ohio, a from
1969 landmark decision of the
United States Supreme Court
interpreting the First Amendment
to the US Constitution. The
Court held that government
cannot punish inflammatory
speech unless that speech is
quote, directed to inciting or
producing imminent lawless
action, and is likely to incite
or produce such action which
seems iffy,
John C Dvorak: well, that
precludes a yelling fire in a
crowded theater.
Unknown: Yes, yes, that, which
is very old,
John C Dvorak: just kind of
accepted. I think it's, it's
just one of those agreed, you
agree, right?
Adam Curry: So if you're online
and you're saying, hey, go beat
up some some immigrants, that
could be a pro. If there's a
riot underway, that could be a
problem. It's just interesting
to see. What's happening in
general is just, it's like, wow,
all the keyboard warriors are
out, and the memes are
hilarious, of course. And yeah,
this will get you locked up for
20 months in the UK. Okay, great
memes, everybody. So I think
they'll, they'll calm this down.
The mainstream has already, man,
the front pages for the eighth
of August was all the same
picture. Then the UK, they
always do, they do this nightly.
Say, here's all the papers for
tomorrow, and they show you the
front pages, all the same, with
people saying, United Britain
stands firm against thugs and
yobs. 1000s take to the streets
to counter threat from far
right. And there it is. We've
always said that this was about
the far right.
John C Dvorak: I have an NPR
clip from this UK called UK odd
report. It's only 17 seconds
Unknown: across the United
Kingdom Today, 1000s of people
turned out for anti racist
rallies after anti immigration
riots took place this week
following the stabbing deaths of
several children in a seaside
town in London, people gathered
outside the right wing reform UK
parties headquarters.
Adam Curry: It is now blaming
the blame for eyes, yes. Far
Right,
John C Dvorak: that's it very
subtle.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Far Right.
We've been tracking this for
months, yet, years. Far Right.
Far Right, every far right. It
has now emerged that the
government in London has started
flagging content it deems to be
misinformation, but also
something referred to as
concerning content. X is among
those who have been asked to
remove posts which British
officials consider to threaten
the country's national security,
and while reports say Google,
meta and Tiktok are complying
with these demands, x is said to
be resisting them. That's right.
Elon free speech. The
accusations that social sites
John C Dvorak: because they
don't have enough people, it's
like, oh brother, we have to do
what?
Adam Curry: Yeah, get it. The
accusations that social sites
are providing a platform for
hate while allegingly
unaccountable for that, is,
while allegedly unaccountable
for that, what is coming from
Cabinet members and MPs alike.
Well, sentence structure, yeah,
not good. But the bottom line
is, I'm all for x being a free
for all. Do whatever you want.
Although I see zero posts or
anything from the left, I think
they've all, Oh, don't.
Unknown: Oh, please. I
Adam Curry: haven't seen it.
John C Dvorak: Go find the
Michael Hayden threads, and then
just go down the line again and
click on any of those people
that are Yeah, you're right.
Michael, yeah. Trump sucks.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, wait,
but wait, wait, that's freedom
of speech, not freedom of reach.
Is not popping up, is my point?
Well,
John C Dvorak: not Yeah, because
you've already been the elgos
have defined you, I guess, and
they're not going to give you
that stuff, right? You have to
go seek it. Yeah, you can find
it as tons of I mean,
Adam Curry: you can find porn on
X too, if you go seek it. I
mean, it's all, yes, you
John C Dvorak: can, oh, really
mediocre porn. It's usually a
link, not that I know.
Adam Curry: Um, but please. You
know, the the Garm lawsuit, and
you know advert, you know, don't
expect advertisers to show up.
You know, what was that all
about? Seriously, if I mean
freedom of speech and
advertising. They're
perpendicular. Advertising is
always censorship, if only for
the product, for the competing
product. You know what I mean?
John C Dvorak: It's like, we're
we're advertising is an
anathema. Is the word you're
looking for, anathema. Thank
you. I mean anathema to free
speech. Well, by the way, where
you want balls. You're not gonna
it's really gonna be tough. Yes,
Adam Curry: where was Eli, the
coffee guy today missing?
John C Dvorak: I didn't see him
missing and show up
Adam Curry: So, but, but, you
know, we talk about, I talk
about black rifle, I talk about
other kinds of coffee. Because
he's not advertising. He's
mentioning his code. Maybe
that's why he didn't send a
donation today. I don't know
John C Dvorak: well, because you
mentioned something, I don't
remember you plugging some other
coffee. Plug other coffee. You
get so much free stuff from Eli,
because I can't drink it fast
enough,
Adam Curry: because I, because I
like black rifle. I like black
rifle. Tina has had his, uh,
decaffeine. But my point is,
John C Dvorak: oh, it's
decaffeinated, yeah. My point
is, what's the point?
Adam Curry: You can't, you can't
be yelling at like, oh,
advertisers. But I know what's
happening. I know what the plan
is, and it's, it's interesting,
because that lawsuit was not
just Elon against Garm, the
advert the Federation of world
advertisers rating system, which
has apparently folded, was like
two guys, probably most likely,
but it was also rum, RUMBLE,
RUMBLE, RUMBLE. It
John C Dvorak: could be rumble.
It could be bitch, you
Adam Curry: know, it was rumble.
And what Rumble is now doing is
they are going after advertisers
who won't advertise. So they're
making this, that's the old way
of doing things. Yep, they're
saying, hey, Dunkin Donuts, you
don't want to advertise. We're
gonna that's the, you know,
John C Dvorak: publishing model,
by the way, people don't want to
realize it, but that is the old
model. It goes way back into the
20s and 30s, especially in the
newspaper business, where they,
you know, it would take over
some city that two or three
newspapers are competing, but
they'd all want these, like
Macy's to average. Where's your
Macy's advertising? I could be
you guys aren't ever you know
this. This is the type of sales,
a different kind of sales. You
go in and say, Hey, you guys
didn't advertise in the
newspaper The last Sunday paper.
You know, you got a big sale
coming up. How come you didn't
advertise? Well, you know, we
really can't afford, oh, really,
I don't think you can afford not
to advertise unless you want us
to roll out this, this
scandalous news about how you're
treating your employees. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. What's that
in your mouth? Duncan.
John C Dvorak: So that's the way
it used to be. Now they're so
passive. Well, you wonder why
they went out of business all
these newspapers. They don't
have any many balls anymore.
Well,
Adam Curry: it could be
changing. Could be changing, and
that's what Rumble is doing.
Rumble is
John C Dvorak: got the right
idea. That is the old fashioned.
It sounds corrupt because it is,
but it's the old way of doing
things.
Adam Curry: It works. It works?
No, yeah, so. But in general, I
mean, don't expect a lot of
advertisers be lining up your
door if you tell them to go F
themselves. And you have,
John C Dvorak: I know you guys,
you have. Yourselves. Okay, all
right, good. We're out of here.
Adam Curry: Quick update on
this, since everyone wants to
know, and I am the aviator, the
airman on duty Brazilian
Unknown: airline VoIP pass has
confirmed that all 61 passengers
and crew were killed when one of
its planes crashed in Sao, Paulo
state. The ATR, 72 aircraft went
down in a residential area in
the city of vinedo, around 80
kilometers north of Sao Paulo
city. Social media videos show
the aircraft tumbling out of the
sky, as you can see here,
authorities say they found the
black box and are working to
determine the cause of the
crash.
Adam Curry: So the news this
morning is on x of course, there
were six cancer doctors on that
plane. It was taken down.
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
hear you. I was going to send
you a note, because they, they,
I saw it. A couple of the videos
are pretty spectacular because
it shows the plan in a flat
spin, flat well, which is like,
Oh, there you go. You're not,
you're nice surviving this, no,
but it was like, I looked up the
ATR 72 and it has, on the wiki
page, has all the list of all
the accidents it's ever had,
yep, and 90% of all the
accidents has ever had was icing
issues. They I guess the plane
ice is up really easy, and then
it craps out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's so
there's two things this, I
believe this was icing. There
were severe icing conditions at
17,000 feet, where they were,
where they were flying. And all
turbo props always have to be
aware of icing conditions,
particularly tea tail, which is
what the ATR is. And there's a
the things you have to do to get
out of icing. The first thing
is, you immediately have to
reduce your engines. And from
what I could tell, that's just,
from what I could hear, didn't
sound like they did that until
they're almost down at the
ground. So it might have been
inexperienced or poor training.
But this was nothing more than
very an icing, August, Brazil,
southern hemisphere, you bet,
very unfortunate day record for
sure, but not some kind of hit
job on cancer scientists. It was
icing and and I think, I think
it was also the, remember that
plane crashed with the one of
the wives of the 911 victims who
was making a big deal about
stuff, and then that plane
crashed, that was also icing.
And if you remember that, we
followed that for a while, I
don't remember. It's always
like, well, who was on the
plane? Now this is when you're
in that flat spin, no, there's,
there's no recovery, pretty
much, not in that kind of
aircraft. So that's an aircraft
to avoid, if you can.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you look
at the wiki page for that
aircraft, there's a lot they has
a lot of issues, very although
there's lots of these planes out
there too. So it would be
unfair, but it's, it's always
icing. Yeah,
Adam Curry: the the Dutch city
Hopper, a lot of those planes
are like that, so be careful of
icing. Now on the cancer tip, oh
boy. What? What could this be?
Diseases
Unknown: of all sorts become
more common as we get older, but
now a new study shows
Millennials are at higher risk
of developing certain cancers
compared to Baby Boomers, and
what doctors say could be
driving that increase, I
would never have thought of
anything seriously wrong with me
at all being so young. Briana
Dillman was 41 healthy, a busy
working mom. Dillman couldn't
believe she had colorectal
cancer, but researchers say
there's growing evidence younger
people are more likely to
develop certain cancers than
their parents. What
we want to understand now is,
why are these individuals not
only being diagnosed with cancer
at young ages, but why are they
also facing poor outcomes than
the generations before
them? Miranda
Fiddler benutia is a research
scientist at the University of
Calgary. She worked with the
American Cancer Society on a
study that found in the US, 17
of 34 cancers are being
diagnosed more often in younger
adults. Fiddler benudia says the
risk of developing some of them,
including small intestine,
kidney and pancreatic cancer,
were two to three times greater
for millennials born around 1990
compared to Baby Boomers. And
then
we also found for some of these
cancers that mortality was also
increasing in these younger
people. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
it, because come on now, come
on. The number one group who
wanted to go out during covid.
What was the requirement, gee,
did they take that into
consideration in this survey,
this test, this puzzling, so
puzzling overall
Unknown: death rates from cancer
have been dropping, but the
American study found there was a
higher risk of death for young
people with certain cancers,
including endometrial,
testicular and colorectal
cancer. Cancer. We don't
want to freak people out. It's
not these are still very low
numbers overall. Thank you. Dr
Shadi
ashmallah is a cancer surgeon in
Toronto, while the new study is
American, he says cancer cases
are rising in younger Canadians
too. His hospital, Sunnybrook,
opened the first colorectal
clinic for younger adults. Dr
ashimala says more can be done.
So we're actually
winning in the population over
50 and those colorectal cancer
rates are going down in
populations that we're
screening. And so screening is
absolutely the key.
Check in with your body when
something doesn't feel right,
seek advice from your doctor.
Briana
Dillman was a patient at
Sunnybrook Hospital now 46 she's
thankful her cancer was caught
early. I'm
so grateful to my doctor, who
did not brush this away. Doctors
say it's not entirely clear
what's driving the increase in
cases, but 10 of the 17 cancers
rising in younger adults are
obesity related. Scientists
suspect changes in diet more
sedentary lifestyles and early
exposure to environmental
chemicals could be factors.
Adam Curry: Yes, of course. Of
course, they could be factor. Of
course they could be factors. I
am gonna
John C Dvorak: be a factor. At
least mention the vaccine. Why
don't they do that? Come on.
Well,
Adam Curry: now let's go to San
Francisco, because there's
another I mean, it looks like
they've cracked the case.
They've cracked the case of
severe illness in kids.
Unknown: It was 2020 and Doctor
Aaron bodansky kept seeing a
high number of children coming
into the ICU with a mysterious
inflammatory disease.
They had severe inflammation of
all of their bodies, but in
particular their lungs and
really their hearts. Turns
out, this was happening to
children across the world, and
no one knew why the illness came
to be known as multi system
inflammatory syndrome in
children.
Adam Curry: What could have
happened across the world that
that affects all these children?
It's so baffling or
Unknown: mis C
The only thing we knew was that
they had previously had a SARS
covid, two infection
as cases intensified, doctors
suspected the severe
inflammation was connected to
the immune system to keep
children alive. Medical
personnel acted on that hunch.
We
use medicines to suppress and
calm their immune system, which
thankfully worked extremely well
to save their lives. This has
been a puzzle that researchers
and clinicians across the
country and in fact, across the
world, have tried to figure out,
and yet it is alluded almost
everyone, until now,
after years in this lab, they
cracked the case.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I stopped
here for a second, and by the
way, I don't want anyone to get
cancer, and I'm absolutely sure
that the unhealthy sedentary
lifestyle, micro plastics, we're
not eating food anymore. I
guarantee you that does not
help. But I would just like to
have one study, one study that
goes mainstream with that. Just
look at the side effects of the
vaccination. It would be nice to
know and now this guy gives such
a screwball explanation for what
there's
John C Dvorak: Well, hold on a
second. No, no. There's plenty
of studies that show this. They
just don't want to talk about
Adam Curry: That's what I said.
That goes mainstream. That's
what I said. I was very
John C Dvorak: specific. I was
very specific depends. Yeah,
okay, specific about it. But
listen
Adam Curry: to what this guy
says and tell me. What is he
really saying
Unknown: to the aha moment was
realizing that that unusual
reaction to covid matched
something in our own immune
system, so it acquired a target
against covid that matched us.
So was attacking both at the
same time.
Adam Curry: What is he saying to
me? It sounds like a kind of a
convoluted way of saying it was
something that matched covid
that was inside our immune
system. You mean, like mRNA
vaccine, or is it some other
thing that we don't know about?
Listen again,
Unknown: realizing that that
unusual reaction to covid
matched something in our own
immune system, so it acquired a
target against covid that
matched us, so it was attacking
both at the same time.
Adam Curry: What does that mean?
Wow,
John C Dvorak: that's an
interesting deconstruction of
the gobbledygook, yes, that this
guy expressed, but what he's
actually saying was, and most
people who had covid Were still
encouraged to get the shot Yes,
particularly, so there's that
element. But what he's saying
is, there's an, there's a
there's a x factor that causes
both the cause, both the covid
and this, this immune thing,
what is? But he doesn't just say
what the X factor is. The X
Factor in your argument would be
the VAX
Adam Curry: or, you know,
remember, there was HIV in these
vaccines. Was all kinds of stuff
in there, maybe not every single
one. And I don't want to freak
anybody out, if you feel good,
you feel good is. It is a small
percentage, but holy crap, this
is weird. Cut
John C Dvorak: out yourself.
Adam Curry: I did. Let me go
back. I'll play it one more
time, realizing
Unknown: that that unusual
reaction to covid matched
something in our own immune
system, so it acquired a target
against covid that matched us so
was attacking both at the same
time.
Now they're hoping to use their
findings to advance science,
knowing
that a virus can provoke an auto
immune reaction later on, and
having this proof allows us to
potentially develop therapeutics
and diagnostics for anything
like this that might occur in
the future. Now listen to her.
Now, these scientists are
hopeful this finding will help
understand other diseases,
including type one diabetes or
MS, that we know are linked to
viruses.
Adam Curry: Diabetes and MS are
linked to viruses
John C Dvorak: the shed
specifically, but diabetes type
one, which means your pancreas
Adam Curry: craps out, but
that's because of a virus. Now,
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
that's what she just said,
Adam Curry: linked to viruses,
and MS, NMS linked to viruses.
John C Dvorak: All right, asking
me questions out of the
Adam Curry: blue, I would like
to lift everybody up with a
short good news. I have very
good news for you. Ozempic may
have another side effect.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard
about the good news? It's a good
news.
Adam Curry: Good news, side
effect, better sex.
John C Dvorak: Of course, yeah.
There you go. Jacqueline
Adam Curry: Smith had a healthy
sex life until she began take
began taking ozempic to lose
weight. That's when she noticed
some dramatic changes. Smith, 35
and her husband of seven years,
went from having sex several
times a week to doing it daily,
sometimes more than once. Well,
I'd say this thing needs to be
on Medicare. Stat,
John C Dvorak: What a crock.
Yes, I'm
Unknown: gonna show my support
by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fab.
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John, will you read them off for
us?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we had a
little top heavy today. So
there's not that many, but we're
going to start with Greg Hoy,
hoy, hoy in Pacifica,
California, 133, 33 followed by
Michael Henry hearts unknown,
9272 and he wishes us I have all
right, me and Mimi a happy
anniversary. Thank you very
much. Very nice, sir, Johnny. Be
good in 9272 congrats on 36
years of wedding bliss. Never
had a fight. What I cooked? I
cooked filet mignon. Yes, yes.
Cooking that a lot, yes. Some
reason it's good. Where
Adam Curry: do you get your
filet mignon for you? I
John C Dvorak: get I get to, if
I can find them, if they have
them, I get the ultras hyper
trimmed at Costco, the whole
giant piece, the entire filet
Oh, that $110
Unknown: hunk
John C Dvorak: isn't that.
That's one price and more. It's
a lot. It's good for two meals,
and you can make a roast out of
the big fat end of it. And as a
roast beef filet mignon, roast
beef is a very appreciated dish.
Adam Curry: Maybe, if you're, if
you're nice, maybe Jason Rick
will send you something from the
ranch in Colorado.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if I Yeah,
well, I'm sure there's gonna be
far superior to anything I can
buy on the opening Costco. Yeah,
for sure. Well, Costco is not
that bad, Sir. Camera, Chris
Baylor and curry Grafton,
Wisconsin, 89 and 97 he has a
very long note here. He's got a
birthday so that things always
say,
Unknown: Oh, he just, he does
give you the
Adam Curry: pronunciation guide
for Kaka,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, vote.
Kaka, Kaka, Kaka Na, Kaka Na,
Kaka Na, Kaka Na,
Adam Curry: we'll never forget.
Kaka Na,
John C Dvorak: I'll never forget
I said, What do I say? Kaka
Adam Curry: na, kakauna. Kaka
Na, Kaka, Kaka nah.
John C Dvorak: Kelly Hubbard,
$88 Happy anniversary, Baron of
the Gitmo nation coffee pot. 88
also have these are the leftover
anniversary donations. I
appreciate them really.
Harrington, Dame Rita and sparks
came in with 88 Uh, I'm up to
speed. And spun down. She says,
yeah, thanks to our media
deconstruction Mike McCoy in
Schaumburg, Illinois, 808 it's a
boob donation, and it's in
support of Kevin McLaughlin, who
came up. Is next in Concord,
North Carolina, 808 16. Always.
Adam Curry: Tina always asks me.
Says to Kevin McLaughlin, come
in again the Duke of lunacy. You
bet every single show he never,
ever
John C Dvorak: forgets it's been
going on for about three years.
Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you.
Maybe even longer. Thank you.
Todd, banner in the troll room.
Hey, Todd. Medford, Oregon, 5555
Todd, Mark Hardwick in Alito,
Texas, 53
Adam Curry: mystery, sir. Greg
with 5555 think we missed him.
John C Dvorak: Sir. Greg, 5555 I
missed him also. Mark says, I'm
Mark Hardwick, not Mary
Hardwick. That called
Unknown: America saga
John C Dvorak: Larson in uh,
Sweden, 5223 and since he came
in from Sweden, I'm going to say
once the wish is beautiful and
amazing partner, Ronnie, a happy
birthday today. All right, he is
my absolute favorite person.
Also want to introduce me to
your show a couple years ago.
This is saga saga, which I guess
is female name. Maybe
Adam Curry: now you don't know
they're Swedish. Maybe
John C Dvorak: they're Swedish,
Swedish. Amanda Adams in Fort
Wayne, Indiana, 5310, happy
anniversary. Bat. Oh, here we
go. Oh, we're interested in
location. Bad idea supply. Look
them up. You can look them up on
Google. Bad idea so they make
all kinds of things that you can
burn with. They make like
fireplaces for your patio, made
out of steel. Uh, William Spain
in spring Dale, Arkansas, 50.
Oh, now we got the 50s already
took that long, not long at all.
I'm just gonna go name and
location, starting with with
William and then Steven schumac
and Xenia. Michelle petty in
Grand Forks, North Dakota. Uh,
Tom del Vecchio in bland in
Pennsylvania. Andrew Grasso in
Mineola, New York. John spade in
Edmond, Oklahoma. Mike moon in
Athens, Georgia. Steven crummy
in El Cajon, California. Michael
ra goose Ragu, maybe Ragusa in
Tustin, Tustin, California, uh,
Brenda for Codd, I'm guessing,
in Paul's bow, Washington, too
little town, if you ever get a
chance to go through it. David
keckta, in sun tan Valley,
Arizona, with a long note, uh,
he's
Adam Curry: our end of show
mixer. David kecta, what does he
What is he saying? Uh oh, the
odomena showed me two sets of 33
clear indicating it's time to
donate. Thank you for suffering
my tip of the day jingles and
humoring me by playing my end of
show mixes. And last
John C Dvorak: on the list is
Elizabeth Little in Louisville,
Louisville, Texas, and it's a
short list total of 38 people,
which is not a lot. Want to
thank them all for helping us
get show 16. I don't know what's
the number 1685, 85 off the
ground and 15 away from a 1700
Adam Curry: it's a big deal.
Here is your Adam curry Dr
Pepper. Can test Ah, I got a
good one.
John C Dvorak: Got a good one.
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Dave, sir. Matthew turned 40 on
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Birthday. Jessica Mancuso,
wishes Dame Susan of the
parkways, a happy one. She
turned 81 yesterday. Happy
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Saga Larson wishes her
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about the guy? That's the second
one? Oh, okay, yes, sorry. And
so that is Sir cross, and we're
just going to, we don't know his
name, but if he wants to let it
be known later, we can always
add that. But we have a layaway
night. Tim DelVecchio, and he
says, Hey, I've been asleep at
the wheel of my regular
contribution on autopilot. I
realize this is how it happens.
People become knights. All of a
sudden. They're like, hey, wait
a minute. I passed knighthood
level a few shows ago. I listen
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appreciate the work that you
both put in to deliver knowledge
and entertainment to us all. I
haven't been deduced yet, so
please deduce me. Whoops.
John C Dvorak: The book of
knowledge. No,
Adam Curry: I'll deduce instead.
Unknown: You've been deduced,
and he
Adam Curry: would like to be
knighted, sir Yankees fan. If
that's available, I believe it
is. Keep up the great work. ITM
Tim delvio, So, Tim, I've got a
blade right here, John, if you
can bring out your blade, then
we can get these guys. There you
go. Very nice. Okay, something
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the buttons. Hey, sir cross and
Tim, step on up. Both of you
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But of course, there is always
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Yeah, baby.
Unknown: The latte.
Adam Curry: I thought I had a
thought I had a meet up report.
I have two promos, so I might as
well play those. This is a
repeat promo, but it is coming
up. It is the Austin slash San
Marcos float meet up to big
deal. You float on the river and
then you have a meet up later
on.
Unknown: This is Baron Scott and
keeper Christine.
It's time again for the fourth
annual Central Texas float meet
set for Saturday, August 17.
We will start on the 72 degrees
Springstead, San Marcos River.
Then we'll meet the party over
the Ivers river pub overlooking
the river in the heart of San
Marcos
go to no agenda meetups for
details into RSVP to both the
morning three hour float and the
afternoon meet up. Remember,
connection is protection on the
river.
Adam Curry: There you go, Baron
Scott and Dame Christine. And of
course, we have the Kansas City
meet up. Always fun.
Unknown: It's sir Spencer here
inviting all the Kansas City, no
agenda, nights, dames and even
the lames to the next meet up at
a hidden gem burger joint in
North case e hamburgers. What
kind of hamburgers they got?
These big, juicy, home style,
grass fed beef burgers,
McDonald's,
Wendy's, Jack in the Box.
No, no, no. This is tays burger
shack on armor road. We're
talking about,
I hear they got some tasty
burgers. I never had one myself.
Why don't you come find out for
yourself next Sunday, August 18,
at 3:33pm catch some amygdala
therapy with your no agenda,
fam, and we'll have you saying
this is a tasty burger. RSVP at
no agenda meetups.com. You.
Adam Curry: It All right, sir
Spencer, another no agenda
stream favorite. Here's what's
coming up. Meetup wise, you do
have one, actually a couple
taking place today, the
margarita meetup. Now you needed
to RSVP for that one. It's a
Palm Beach Gardens in Florida.
The Reiki princess is hosting
that. So hopefully we'll get a
report. The we drink, the we
know things. The Soviet Sunday
edition of the meetup. Three br
distillery, Keyport, New Jersey,
well underway. As we speak, the
save democracy and cat ladies
meet up 330 in Indianapolis. So
y'all can they're underway
there. That's day mark, Sir Mark
and Dave Maria, and that is at
the St Joseph brewery and public
house. We have the no agenda
southwest New Hampshire meetup
taking place in Keem, New
Hampshire at the king New
Hampshire local burger then on
Thursday, our next show day, the
Deutsch bags in the USA, five
o'clock at the Norwegian in
Rockford, Illinois, and the
monsoon Dodgers summer meet up
630 at the Denver Museum of
Nature and Science Park. Also
Charlotte's thirsty Third
Thursday meet up seven o'clock
at Ed Tavern in Charlottesville,
North Carolina. Many more
meetups to take a look at. They
are producer organized. We
sometimes we come to them.
Otherwise, we usually just hair
with there, with heads only, on
sticks, if at all possible. They
are fun to go to. You will meet
interesting and wildly different
people from anything you have
ever met, but you will all get
along because we all know
connection is protection, no
agenda. Meetups.com. If you
can't find one near you, start
one yourself. It's easy.
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with all the nights
and days. Triggered, or, hell,
you wanna be where
everybody feels the same.
It's like a party. Yes, I
Adam Curry: have two ISOs. We
always like to choose them
before we end the show. It's an
ISO that we will end the show
with. Do you have any ISOs at
all? Actually? Yeah, you do.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I have a
bunch of ice Okay, well, I'll
Adam Curry: do mine first. This
Unknown: is amazing.
John C Dvorak: Not bad, not bad.
What? Say it again.
Adam Curry: This is, well, you
didn't hear it, not really. Let
me play it again.
Unknown: This is amazing.
Adam Curry: This is amazing.
Okay, no, no. No, good, damn.
Unknown: This could be bigger
than Obama.
Adam Curry: Okay, you're
underwhelmed. How about you?
Wow. So
John C Dvorak: you didn't even
try.
Adam Curry: I didn't. You're
right. I was busy with other
stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's why I
get this. The simple ones, let's
go with Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown: It's not bad.
Adam Curry: Can't go wrong with
that. We can't go wrong.
Unknown: Thank you
so much. Thanks so much.
Adam Curry: No good, no good.
John C Dvorak: And then what's
up?
Unknown: What's up with that?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. Maybe I'll do a
combo today. Let me see
Unknown: what's up with that.
Thank you.
Adam Curry: That sounds pretty
good. You don't like that, you
think, Well, how about if
anything, I just
John C Dvorak: like the other
way around. Thank you. And
what's up with
Adam Curry: that? Let me try
that one. Let me see how we do.
Thank you.
Unknown: What's up with that?
Okay,
Adam Curry: I can do that. That
works for me. Thank you. What's
up I just have to remember, hey
everybody about time to go, but
before we do it's always your
favorite moment of the show.
Unknown: That's not
Adam Curry: everybody. We'd like
to thank you out of the show
with a tip of the day.
John C Dvorak: All right, this
is a screwball tip. Unlike all
the others, people who just no
lube involved, the people who
have a mouse a rat problem in
their environment, yeah, it
happens. The latest thing now is
to use these birth control
mechanisms. What? And the
animals can't reproduce, and
they the generation dies off
right on the spot. The product
is called evolve for mice. Wow.
You look for a product called
evolve, and I get Mimi came up
with this idea as a tip. And I
said, you know, because
everybody like my idea of you
get a mouse or rat or something,
or you use a blue trap, you
can't catch them. You just
poison them with the deadliest
stuff you can't Oh, no. Hawk is
going to eat the thing and he's
gonna die. Because, I guess this
happens once in a blue moon
where some poor animal, you
know, sees a dying mouse or
something. Anyway, they even
bad. But no, because of all the
guilt ridden people in the
family, the other one is, yeah,
they don't want to go. They
don't want to go. They don't
want to keep going. Yeah, Contra
pest is another brand to look
for, which is for rats. Contra
pest, wow. And Evolve is the
other brand. So this you want to
get rid of your, uh, pests,
vermin, as I would like to refer
to them, which includes, to me,
dear, yeah.
Adam Curry: Uh, vermin. If you
could do that with D, you can
give this to deer as well.
John C Dvorak: No, no, this. The
thing about this stuff, it only
works on these, on these
rodents. So it's actually, just
say, one of the safer products
out there.
Adam Curry: Wow. All right,
excellent. Castrate your rats.
Beautiful.
Unknown: And now John C Dvorak,
with the tip
of the day
Adam Curry: and only the tip,
that's all we got for you. All
right, everybody coming up next
on the no agenda stream, or one
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says sir, seat sitter. I haven't
heard him on the stream in a
bit. That's beautiful. Make sure
you listen to him. Hitachi
wonton is the title of that
episode. Well, that that offers
a lot of perspective. End of
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John C Dvorak: I tell you the
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Unknown: Suggestions
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a thank you. What's up with
that? You?