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John C Dvorak: Line up boys for
your free vasectomies. Adam
curry. John C Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: August 18. 2024 this
is your award winning. Keep our
nation media assassination.
Episode 1687,
Unknown: this is no agenda. Stop
Adam Curry: texting me and start
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country, here
in FEMA Region. Number six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I just got
back from a fabulous Mallard
club meetup. I'm John C Dvorak.
It's
Unknown: Greg botton Buzzkill.
In
the morning,
Adam Curry: I am so sick of
these political text messages,
and I made a mistake weeks ago.
It always says, type, stop. You
John C Dvorak: know you're
mocking me for having a landline
and my cell phone in the drawer.
I
Adam Curry: never mock you for
that. I never mock you for that.
I think you're awesome for that,
John C Dvorak: and I don't have
this issue well. So the worst
Hold on. One more thing, you
know, for my texting, I use
Google Voice Yes,
Adam Curry: yeah, on the web
browser, I presume Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but that's what I
do. I use a web browser so well,
Adam Curry: let me just explain
what's happening. Well,
John C Dvorak: I just want to
mention that I never get these.
Why don't? Why don't I get this
on Google?
Adam Curry: Because they know
that you're a loser. They're not
interested in you. Not
interested if you do that stuff.
No, they don't care. I don't
care. No. So if you have a
regular, regular phone number,
and somehow there's a cell phone
we're talking about, yeah, and
so I get in the database. And
this, this happens every four
years, but this year has been
particularly bad, and it's high.
It's Donald Trump, hi, it's
Donald Trump Jr, hi. It's Ted
Cruz, hi. It's Tulsi Gabbard. I
mean, and then if you, and it's
always ends with type stop. And
if, and that's the big mistake,
never, ever, ever, ever, type
stop, because then immediately,
oh, we got a live one, boys. And
then you start getting messages
from all these different phone
numbers, yep, yep. And it just
never, ever. It's all
John C Dvorak: you did when you
type stop, was confirm that
you're not just a dead number
correct.
Adam Curry: And that was months
ago, yeah. And it's just
ongoing, urgent, urgent
John C Dvorak: Democrat thing
too. Well,
Adam Curry: I used to get the
Democrat stuff, I guess they
determined me to be dead. But
it's out of control. And it's
from. It's not like from a, you
know, one of those short code
numbers, it's from. Oh, and
here's a pig butcher. Hi. I'm
Anna. I'd like to discuss a
potential job opportunity with
you. Would you be interested in
receiving more information?
Diana,
John C Dvorak: you know pig
butcher? Yeah, we talked about
pig dirt soliciting, pig
butchers. John,
Adam Curry: don't pretend you
don't remember what pig
butchering is. We went through
this. We even got one of them on
the air. The Pig butcher is
these starts with a text
message, something like Anna
there, or, Hey, I have this
number, but I can't remember who
this is, or want to go play
tennis. And, and then you answer
pickleball, by the way, and,
yeah, and, and then they, you
know, they, it's a long game.
You remember, they had like,
1000 of these people in Northern
Thailand or somewhere. They were
all slaves in some encampment,
and they all had to do this
John C Dvorak: in the
Philippines. But, yeah, no, no,
Adam Curry: no, it was. It was a
big thing. It was, it was in, in
time should be stopped, by the
way. Well, Elizabeth Warren
promised she would stop that,
and she lied. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she's and that
was 10 years ago. Now,
Adam Curry: I'm sure you heard
about that 2.9 billion records
hack. You heard about it, right?
Yeah, so we obviously ignored
that because, like, okay,
whatever. But someone actually,
sir, by His grace, he emailed me
said, Are you purposely ignoring
this story? And I was like,
Well, I don't like those
insinuations. I know if he meant
it that way. No, that's what he
meant, but it stayed in the back
of my mind. And an NBC version
of the story came by, and then,
and it's like a double whammy.
It's like, oh, I think this is
what it's about. And then, oh,
that's what it's about. This is
an obvious PR, then I want to I
got a few short clips here to
explain what's going on. Here's
the setup tonight.
Unknown: Fears a massive data
breach may have impacted
billions of people across the
globe, according to a new class
action lawsuit, which means so.
Security numbers and other
sensitive information could now
be up for sale on the dark web.
Dark Web, a company called
Jericho pictures, which operates
as national public data, is a
Florida based background check
company. NPD takes data from
public record databases,
national and state databases and
court records. It then sells
that data to a range of
organizations like background
check, websites, investigators,
app developers and data
resellers. So
Adam Curry: immediately I know
what's going on here. This is
one of these. I would call it a
microservices company that
provides these horrible websites
with your address, you know, and
I've been to several that you're
like, Oh, come on, man, you've
got all the same and they all
get it from the same data
source, and so. And I'm like,
okay, so this is it even says
you can, you can literally
subscribe to it. Oh, big hack.
Okay, if you really want to do
something with it, like those a
holes who text me, no doubt you
just go subscribe and just say
hey, give me some information on
Adam curry, or give me some
information on people in Texas.
So this is not some fantastical
breach, but now we're taking it
one step further. We have to
reiterate that it's everywhere.
It's everywhere this day's
everywhere. And initially I
thought, Oh, this is this is a
promo for other services listen.
Unknown: According to the
lawsuit, in April of this year,
a hacking group called us DoD
breached NPD systems and stole
private information. The suit
goes on to say in a post on the
dark web on April 8, US DoD
claim they stole 2.9 billion
records of personal data,
Adam Curry: and by the way, so
obviously it's not going to be
all social security numbers,
because there's not 2.9 billion
Americans. But what do they mean
by records? Is that each line is
a record, so it's already very
specious in
Unknown: records of personal
data, and we're trying to sell
them for $3.5 million that's
nothing that personal data
includes names, address,
histories, relatives and social
security numbers. In a statement
on their website, MPD
acknowledges the breach and says
we cooperated with law
enforcement and governmental
investigators and have
implemented additional security
measures. We reached out to MPD,
but did not hear back. Since the
information was posted for sale
in April, other hackers have
released different copies of the
data, including a hacker known
as finice, who posted the most
complete version for free in
August, cyber security news site
bleeping computer. Some good
news, the database does not
contain information from
individuals who use opt out
services, according to the
lawsuit. So
John C Dvorak: okay, so there we
go. There's the gimmick. That's
what
Adam Curry: I thought and, and,
you know, obviously this is of
no value. That's why, you know
someone posted it for free. Oh,
okay, so all by the
John C Dvorak: way, I consider
it a great compliment by you to
me for using the word specious.
Oh, I heard you would never use
her entire life if it wasn't for
me. I
Adam Curry: heard you chuckle.
John C Dvorak: I heard you
chuckle. We're using it.
Adam Curry: I have, I have used
it in normal parlance as well.
And people go, great. Word
specious is a good word. And
then people go, Oh, I don't
think I should argue with him.
He used a word that I barely
understand. Okay, so I thought,
Yes, this is opt out services.
But then it takes a twist. They
bring in influencers. This year
Unknown: has just been the year
of the hackers,
but people on social media still
panicking, biggest data breach
possibly in human history, as
many
fear their private data is up
for sale. So
Adam Curry: okay, why are they
bringing in influencers who
usually get paid to talk about
anything, and the payoff comes
in the final clip, as they bring
in a cybersecurity expert who is
an obvious government shill
because he himself was involved
in the OPM hack. Do you recall
the OPM hack?
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to say
that I don't, but I if you
remind me, I'm sure I will. This
Adam Curry: was the database of
government employees that got
housed, right? And it was a big
problem.
John C Dvorak: It was that was a
big deal. Yes, that was a big
deal. So the
Adam Curry: fact that this guy
was in that data breach means
that he's a government chill and
listen to what he has to sell
for on this concern. Remember,
this is NBC, not some local
yokel.
Unknown: More on this concerning
data breach and what it means
for you. I want to bring in
cyber security expert David
Kennedy.
This is a background check
checking company that basically
looks at, you know, making sure
you don't have a record if you
go to a job employment. But they
have access to all of these
national databases that can pull
information on any US citizen.
And there's hundreds, if not
1000s, of these organizations,
you know, background check.
Check facilities companies
around the country, we can
pretty much assume that this is
the largest data breach we've
ever seen around social security
numbers in the history. I mean,
I was impacted by OPM, which was
the data breach around
classified top secret folks are
contractors or folks that were
in the military. I was part of
that as well. Two things that
are really important to notice
that, you know, social security
numbers in general are such a
legacy piece of data, we need to
move to more of a digital
format. The government really
needs to be pushing for more
digital ways of identifying
individuals that are unique to
an individual. Social Security
numbers are never designed to be
a security mechanism. I mean,
they're designed like the 50s
and 40s, and I think a lot of
has changed since then around
technology. So we need to do a
better job around social
security numbers and how we
actually protect people's
personal information. Personal
Information, and
Adam Curry: that's what it's all
about. There's a federal class
action lawsuit against this
company, which, I don't know
what that means exactly, a
federal class action lawsuit,
John C Dvorak: but What? What?
Yeah, yeah. This makes no sense.
Yeah. It's
Adam Curry: they literally, I
didn't have it in the clip,
literally called a federal class
action lawsuit. So I guarantee
you that we are going to see
someone who has been you know,
is some through some lobbying
firm, no doubt, is going to be
touting that we need to upgrade
this outdated, antiquated system
of using social security numbers
as a way to identify yourself.
John C Dvorak: It's obvious.
What do they you have? You
looked into this, whether you
propose, well, they
Adam Curry: haven't pronoun.
It's coming this. They're just
getting started. That's why they
John C Dvorak: it doesn't make
sense. Whether you need to use a
bigger number,
Adam Curry: no, they're going to
give us digital ID from the
government. And how
John C Dvorak: come that can't
be stolen? Of course, it can.
Adam Curry: It's easy. The whole
thing is bull crap. No, no, this
is a government move. It's a
government move. It's obvious. I
mean, you hear what the guy
says, Oh, this is antiquated. We
should be doing something else.
Of course, they've been wanting
this. They want this. They want
us all to have some kind of
newfangled government ID, just
like Australia launched. They're
doing it now. This is, this is
John C Dvorak: unavoidable, Real
ID in a sheep's clothing.
Adam Curry: Correct, correct.
That's exactly what it is, Real
ID. But then digital. They want
to be digital. And they want to
tie your vaccinations you
John C Dvorak: want to make it
digital? Ai,
Adam Curry: they might, they
might. So once I, once I saw
that guy come in, I'm like, oh,
okay, I get it. I get it.
Everyone's running off to the to
freeze their credit. Believe me,
I hear ice. Oh, I am all the
ladies are going nuts on the
text groups. Oh,
John C Dvorak: there was,
there's a commercial on TV that
actually exploits this, this
fear. Crocker, stop my stop my
credit card. Oh, there I found,
I found my card. It was in my
purse. Oh, Crocker, turned back
on. Turn it back on. Have you
seen this commercial? No,
Unknown: I haven't. I haven't.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well,
Adam Curry: the OP, I mean, the
opt out service is just a
temporary thing, I mean, and
that's exactly the point. Is,
all of our information is out in
these databases. It's amazing
what they have on me,
everything, every you know, and
the minute you buy a house,
unless you and I, I should have
been smart and put it into a,
you know, what is it? It's like
as a term for it, not a you can
put it in escrow, not escrow,
some other term this goes where
you just hold the money. No, you
can put it into some kind of
entity. Yeah, probably
John C Dvorak: the thing is,
these database, because I look
at these things all the time, a
trust, that's right, trust,
thank you. Yeah, you can do a
Trust's opinion, yes. So you
look at these things, you look
at these things, and it's like
you look yourself up and these,
they're these things are they
cross their cross referencing
issues are really problematic.
This is why you get if you
recall the people out there who
are longtime listeners, I
remember Adam curry getting
pulled aside every time he came
in out of the country because of
a guy in I guess it was North
Dakota or
Adam Curry: Oklahoma, and he was
also a pilot. And this was 2006
I think so it wasn't that long.
After 911 I lit, I remember the
one time because it happened
five, six times in a row, and I
recorded it once. Yeah, and,
well, the time I remember most
is when, because, of course,
this was me video days pod show.
So I flew virgin upper class,
which was great. I mean, Richard
Branson man, he gave me
bathrobes for Christmas. Those
days are over, long gone. And
then I remember when media, when
I left me, whatever it was,
like, all of a sudden, the
number I had to call for
reservations wouldn't answer
anymore, like I was off the list
very quickly. You don't have the
miles, you're no good. You. But
one time I was so I'm sitting in
the front, and they say, Oh, Mr.
Curry, could you come to the
front when we landed at San
Francisco? And I went to the
front, and there's two agents,
like, Oh, hey, and they
recognize me. And I thought, I
literally thought they were
giving me some special service.
Like, hey, you know, come with
us. And I'm walking like, Hey,
this is really cool guys. And
you could see they were
uncomfortable and embarrassed.
And it turns out I was going
into, you know, special
screening, and they opened up my
suitcases and like, what is
going on? And then the one time
I said, Why can't I get into the
country? Well, you know, there's
all kinds of issues. And I wave
my passport, does this not give
me permission to come into my
own country. And then they, they
held me for another two hours,
or you're one of those guys,
well after the fourth time. And
then we complained about it
endlessly on the show. And
John C Dvorak: yes, we did. We
complained endlessly on the
show. I think somebody finally
heard it, yeah? And
Adam Curry: they ended it. They
ended, they ended the terror.
Yeah. It was a
John C Dvorak: Yeah. It was
ridiculous. Actually, it was
Yeah. But if you look at your
own databases, and sometimes
some people have gotten somehow
you can manage to, most of these
guys will, will kind of cloak
your stuff, your information, if
you, if you tell them to, they
they have to, I think they do.
So they will. They'll take a lot
of this information offline, but
there's too many. There's all
these different companies doing
this. Yeah, and you start
looking at it, you start
discovering that, well, that's
interesting. I own property in
Covina, and, oh, well, that's
That's funny. I seem to be have
money do me in Covina or
whatever. I mean, there's just a
there's a lot of this is the
problem with these databases,
and there's a problem with
dossiers. Yes, they get you
this. Like the time I got a call
from the IRS once, I think I've
told the story on the show,
well, tell it again. I don't
remember if we, guy comes up and
calls me, and there's not
supposed to do this, by the way,
but they do it. And no matter
what they say, they do it,
because it's been done. And so
the guy from the IRS calls me,
says, we're waiting, we're
waiting for your payment. You
always says this amount of
money, we don't understand why
you haven't gotten back a hold
of us. And he's reading me the
riot act. And I said, I don't
know what you're talking about.
And you're going, well, you job
all. I said, Wait a minute.
What's my social security
number? Ah, good one. And he
said, and he gives me a number,
yeah, not
Adam Curry: your number.
John C Dvorak: I said, That's
not my number. Where do I where
am I supposed to be living? He
says, You're you're in Kansas
City. I said, I'm in all I'm in
Albany, California right now. He
says, oh, and because I know
there's a writer, this is funny.
There's a writer named John
Dvorak that wrote for the Kansas
City Star in Kansas City,
obviously, the IRS taxes, by the
way, this should not be public
information, but I guess it is
now that I mentioned it. And so
I said, No, no, no, I'm the you
went to John Dvorak. That's a
writer for The Kansas City Star,
not me. You got the wrong guy.
And the guy went into a massive
apology. Well,
Adam Curry: you know, John, if
we just had government ID, none
of this would happen anymore.
You'd be safe. You'd be safe.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have, we
have, actually, for this show,
and personally, we have other
numbers that we use for the IRS.
Yeah, we're running numbers. We
don't use our social security
numbers anymore because of we
actually had an issue. Mimi had
a problem with somebody filing
associate a tax return with our
numbers and then getting a bunch
of money. Now we have to
literally hand associate our tax
filing. You don't have to do
this. No, no person where Mimi
has to go into Silverdale and
she drops it off and, oh, hey,
Adam Curry: it's been a year,
John C Dvorak: and it's like,
it's, this is the problem that
everyone because of this
nonsense. Yeah,
Adam Curry: if only we had some
kind of digital
John C Dvorak: anything. And you
know it, and I know it, you have
to have a secret number that
nobody knows, but it
Adam Curry: will give them so
much more to connect to it. You
see, that's the point that and,
and I'm sure it's Palantir or
some other company, it's going
to surface. Just keep everybody,
keep your eyes open. There's
going to be some company and
some Congress critter is going
to say, Hey, I propose a bill,
and it will be, and it probably
going to be Elizabeth Warren,
that'll be Senator, but that
John C Dvorak: would be ironic.
No, not at all. She can't do
anything. What happened to
Rachel? I mean, okay, Rachel's
gone. I guess she got rid of
her. No, listen,
Adam Curry: Warren will say,
I've been on this for 10 years.
No one has done anything about
it. I have the final solution
now. It'll be Bose on one of her
other benefactors, some tech
company is going to That's
funny. It was Bose last time
with the hearing aids.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Bose. Well,
do you know the problem with
Bose? I will say, Oh, here we
Adam Curry: go. Here we go.
Bose.
John C Dvorak: Bose is
litigious. Oh, are they know,
yeah, they're very and so
there's something when you're a
writer in working in especially
trade magazines,
Adam Curry: bad Bo's, rocks,
okay, gone.
John C Dvorak: You would be you,
you there was a company. There's
a computer company. I can't
remember the name of them, but
everybody knew that you would
never they would just never get
mentioned. What happens? You
just stop mentioning him as a
player. Uh, they're just they
are blackballed, blacklisted
Bose. And you blacklist
companies if you're a writer
writing about a product, oh, you
blacklist price, and Bose is one
of them, because Bose sued is
very well known. And once this
happened to Bose is blacklisted
for being discussed. They sued
Consumer Reports. Of all people,
really, this was years and years
ago. Wow. Bose had these, this
weird speaker system. Is that
the 902 or something, somebody
in the chat room might remember
it. It was
Adam Curry: 901 I'm looking at
it. There's an actual wiki page
about it, the Bose one the
review expressed skepticism of
the system's quality and
recommended that consumers delay
purchase until they had
investigated for themselves
whether the loudspeaker systems
unusual attributes would suit
them.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they were a
I had given, been given a demo
of that I thought they sounded
good, personally, and but they
did have a they had a kind of
they didn't have a sound stage
that was easily defined for
people who are audio files. You
know what I'm talking about,
where, you know where the
saxophone is right there. You
know exactly where it is that
stuff would be floating around a
little bit. And so Bo sued him.
And once they did that, they got
blacklisted by everybody who
heard about this, I'll bet. And
by blacklisting, I mean, you
just wouldn't write about them.
I'm not going to even compare.
And the funny thing was, they
did make some tremendously good
speakers, not those,
necessarily, but other speakers
that were quite good, but that
Nope, they wouldn't get
Adam Curry: no I will say their
noise canceling aviation
headsets are pretty much
standard now. That they are by
far the best
John C Dvorak: that could be.
Everybody sure they're, they're,
they're probably regretful that
whoever the attorney was that,
because Consumer Reports is
nuts.
Adam Curry: That's dumb. That's
very dumb, especially
John C Dvorak: over something
that you just read, which is
just minor. It's a minor
complaint, yeah, basically it
was, yeah, check this out before
you buy it.
Adam Curry: Oh God. And I
remember back in the day when we
had our stereo towers, yeah,
remember those stereo towers?
John C Dvorak: I still have a
pair. Oh, my,
Adam Curry: oh my individual
rack elements, Bose. You know,
if you had Bose speakers, it
was, I mean, it wasn't quite B
and O, but, oh, you got Bose
speakers. Oh, it's got to be
good. I wonder. I wonder if they
really lost a lot of market
share.
John C Dvorak: I think they did.
They just it was a bad idea.
Don't people out there in
manufacturing or doing product,
do not be very careful about
suing reviewers, especially, you
will never be reviewed again,
ever. Consumer Reports, which is
Consumer Reports, of all of
them, they, you know, Consumer
Reports doesn't. They're not.
They don't, you know, they don't
review everything. So there's a
lot of comparison reviews that
they could do. But when they're
as honest as they can be. I'm
Adam Curry: going to move to
another scam, another government
scam. They keep ramping it up,
and it's just funny to listen to
Doctor
Unknown: John. I did want to ask
about a breaking development
we're following. The World
Health Organization has declared
the current M pox outbreak in
Africa a global health
emergency. Sweden had the first
reported case of the strain
outside of Africa. And pox
outbreak
Adam Curry: an MPEG, she said,
an MPEG outbreak. We didn't MPEG
outbreak.
John C Dvorak: We added an
impact. Took place about 20
years ago.
Unknown: God, we had an impact
pox outbreak here in the US, not
long ago. So
how concerned should we be about
this resurgence, and at
this point, it's going to be
rare outside of that area there,
although today, we were just
notified that Sweden has their
first case of M pox, and it's
this clay one variant they're
talking about, it tends to be
more contagious and more
dangerous is from somebody who
had gone to Africa, gotten it
and brought it back to Sweden so
it could spread globally. We saw
that in 2022 we just need to be
aware of that, and that means
doing the things that you need
to stay safe, and that's
basically not touching anybody
that has M box because it's a
contact related infection. And
if you need to get vaccinated,
because your high risk factors
get vaccinated. And
Adam Curry: just a reminder to
everybody, when we have this in
2022 It was only men who have
sex with men. It wasn't gay men.
It was men who have sex with
men. That was it was baffling.
And men who have sex with men
stood in line for hours to get
their M pox vaccine. Remind us
again what this is. Doctor John.
People hear
Unknown: this and they go, Oh,
covid. Can you just remind us
what M pox is, what
it entails, and pox is a virus
is very closely related to
smallpox and the chickenpox, and
so it's very contagious, and
unfortunately, this case, it can
be deadly as well. Symptoms
right there, the biggest ones
are the rash they get, which
looks like a chickenpox rash,
and those swollen lymph nodes.
When they get to that stage,
that's when they're infectious
as a contact infection. So if
you touch them or touch
something they touched and maybe
had gotten the virus on. You can
get it as well that way.
Adam Curry: So it's interesting,
because this doesn't really have
the hallmarks. And what was
great about covid is you
couldn't see if someone had it.
John C Dvorak: That was the best
Yeah, asymptomatic transmission.
Asymptomatic transmission, which
is bull crap, but that's what it
was, yeah.
Adam Curry: So, so it's nowhere
near it, but I can see where a
lot of people the mask wears in
the cars, they'll be, oh, monkey
pox, don't touch me. Stay away.
John C Dvorak: Monkeypox, you go
to the voting machine and you do
touch the voting machine, you'll
pass it on. You don't want that.
You want to mail in voting. Mail
in voting. Yeah,
Adam Curry: here's a professor
in London.
Unknown: It is inevitable that
this strain of this new strain
of M parks,
Adam Curry: it's a new strain of
impact. It's a Claude one that
started off in, sorry, the clade
one. It's not Claude, but clade
balls
Unknown: and parks that started
off in 2024, from the Democratic
Republic of Congo from the
Adam Curry: Democratic Party. I
thought she was going to say,
wouldn't that have been funny?
That's exactly right.
Unknown: In 2024 from the
Democratic Republic of Congo.
But it's now spread to at least
nine neighboring countries. Will
come to the UK because of
international time. That doesn't
mean it will spread widely
within the
Adam Curry: Why tell us? Well,
just listen, it's almost done,
because
Unknown: in the UK, we have the
ability to diagnose and do
contact tracing and also to
provide vaccination to people
who've been exposed.
Adam Curry: Okay, so we're
hearing the same things that we
like with our pandemics, contact
tracing, testing, by the way,
the test for mpox is PCR, so
everybody has it, the
Unknown: declaration of a public
health emergency of
international concern is helpful
because it allows the vaccine to
be emergency licensed in those
countries. Oh,
Adam Curry: it's helpful if you
have one of those W who major
concern classifications, because
then you can do vaccines under
emergency use authorization, no
testing of the vaccine needed.
Unknown: And there has been some
promises of donations from
stockpiles, both in Europe and
the US,
John C Dvorak: donations of
mpox. Now vaccines
Adam Curry: now on German
television, German television.
Dr Wolfgang vorda came out. EB
said, and it's available in
German. Obviously. He said, This
is nonsense. This is I'll
translate on the fly. This is so
absurd, even that doctors would
parrot this information and let
themselves be fooled, because
when there are local boils on
the body with these monkey pox,
they come with strong pain.
Well, my God, isn't that typical
of shingles as well diagnosing
they should at least ask
themselves, what is this monkey
pox? Just because of this test,
this PCR test, which they are
marketing, the monkey, the mpox
test marketing for a lot of
money. This is just another one
of these scams they're pushing.
He says. He says, wait for it.
He says, this is shingles as a
result of immune immune system
issues from people who have been
vaccinated with the mRNA
vaccine.
John C Dvorak: Well, I do have
one more anecdote. So a friend
of mine and his wife, famous guy
and his wife live up the hill.
Both went and got the shingles.
Adam Curry: Her name's Jack, and
Jill
John C Dvorak: went up the hill.
She both got the shingles
vaccine. And she, within days,
got shingles course. And so I
was over visiting, and then she
shows she showed it. She got
this huge rash, I have painful
rash on her arm, and it's like
it looks like hell. And I said,
you just what? Yeah, we just got
the vaccine. We just got
vaccinated because the doctor
chose we should get shingle,
which I've been told to oh, you
should get shingles vaccine. No,
oh, yeah. They're telling
everybody to do that. Yeah,
yeah, because it's a money
maker. Somebody. This is vague.
There's somebody's getting bit.
There's kickbacks involved here.
This has gone out of control.
This should be illegal for
vaccine companies or
pharmaceutical companies to kick
back anything to doctors ever.
Should be. It should be a
felony.
Adam Curry: But if you look at
some of the pictures online,
they show now, remember,
autoimmune blistering disease
was on the Pfizer list of
adverse events of special
interest for their mRNA vaccine.
No, that was in the Pfizer
documents. Remember the ones
they wanted to lock down for 72
years? 75
John C Dvorak: Yes, 70 years.
No, there's no reason anyone
should look at this.
Adam Curry: So it's very
possible. And you know, now
we're a couple of years into it,
and I mean, we're seeing all
kinds of amazing things, like
prostate cancer, particularly in
younger people. More young
people have the cancer than
older people now. And I'm not
trying to scare anybody, but for
sure, don't get suckered into
some mpox vaccine. And shingle
sucks, but it's, it's
survivable, you know, I don't
know. I, you know, they have
very small numbers of of kids in
Africa who have died. And you
know, none of them look at that
healthy. They don't look very
healthy to start with. But I, I
certainly would believe, just
like they can't figure out. We
can't figure out these cancers.
We have looked at everything
except
John C Dvorak: we can't figure
out this. All of a sudden,
there's athletes dying on the
field. We can't, well, that's
always been going on, yeah,
yeah. We
Adam Curry: can't figure it
being reported more, yeah. We
can't figure it out. And now
this, and to me, it looks like
shingles. I've seen shingles,
and shingle shows up in
different ways, but it's all
these very painful blisters, and
the last thing you want to do is
scratch it. You know, it just
gets
John C Dvorak: worse. Because
what makes it makes my butt hurt
thinking about it,
Adam Curry: you know, there's
your opening right there. Makes
my butt hurt thinking about
that's not gonna be acceptable.
I'm still isoing it for
prosperity. Yeah,
Unknown: prosperity,
Adam Curry: I glad you caught
that, but I would hate to think
that they are lying to us about
this being a side effect, which
was listed in the documentation.
John C Dvorak: That's an
interesting I forgot about, that
could be listed in the in the
documentation. Yeah,
Adam Curry: all right, I'll just
get us started with some very
obvious media simple, simple
media deconstruction, very, very
simple. And why is it simple?
Well, it's simple because the
media lies, and is certainly in
the United States, but I think
in general, most media comes
from a Marxist propagandistic
background, even Fox News. Let's
listen. Let's not kid ourselves
about it. And I'm sure we'll,
we'll get into the the economic
report, economic suggestions,
economic ideas from Democrat
apparent nominee, Kamala Harris.
Or is it Kamala and she rolls
out an interesting extra tax
credit. Under
Unknown: my plan, more than 100
million Americans will get a tax
cut, the Earned Income Tax
Credit and the Child Tax Credit.
How?
Through which millions of
Americans with children got to
keep more of their hard earned
income. We know it works, so as
President, I'll not only restore
that tax cut, but expand it. We
will provide $6,000 in tax
relief to families during the
first year of a child's life,
that is a vital, vital year of
critical development of a child,
and the cost can really add up,
especially for young parents. We
will do this while reducing the
deficit.
Adam Curry: So yeah, there is
already a child tax credits. I
believe it's $3,500 for the
first year, $2,500 subsequent
years. This is, of course,
exactly what JD Vance proposed.
He proposed $5,000 for the first
year. And if you recall what
they said right away is he wants
to punish people who don't want
to have children. And it was it
was Molly Jung fast and in
Louisiana, the Daily Advertiser
reports that the United States
birth rate is down as fewer
adults want to have kids. I
should have clipped this close
for Hold on a second. Some older
adults say they don't have kids
due to medical reasons or
because they have. Found the
right partner and Molly is the
stats are there more and more
Americans choosing not to have
kids, which
Unknown: again emphasizes why JD
Vance's comments about childless
Americans, childless cat ladies
could be so politically
damaging. Well. So
what's interesting is this, is
this natalism That comes from an
authoritarian playbook, right?
That there, there need to be
more white children,
Adam Curry: right? So, so when
JD Vance proposes it, it's more
white children. Yeah, it's
natalism, natalism. So there's
your phony baloney. Media.
John C Dvorak: It's
unbelievable. Well, if
Adam Curry: we hadn't been doing
this for almost 17 years, maybe,
but for us, it's like, oh,
that's believable. Oh, there it
is. Actually have, let's just
stick on this Harris economic
plan for a moment. I have a
couple clips
Unknown: tonight. Vice President
Kamala Harris in her first major
policy speech casting herself as
a champion of the middle class.
Building up
the middle class will be a
defining goal of my presidency.
The
Adam Curry: NASDAQ, the
nasality. Is that a word,
John C Dvorak: very hard. It's
just adenoidal. Yes, of
Unknown: my presidency. Harris
acknowledging that even as
inflation slows, middle class
families are still feeling the
pinch. The vice president, she's
been there pinch,
Adam Curry: a pinch, the pinch.
No, it's a slap. Later
Unknown: in college, I worked at
McDonald's to earn spending
money. Uh huh, well, some of the
people I worked with were
raising families on that
paycheck. I
Adam Curry: would love to meet
some of these people that you
work with at McDonald's during
your college. Was that in
Ottawa? Was that in Canada?
Where did she go to college? No,
no, that's right. Now she went.
She was capital okay now, she
went to college at the
historically backed black
university. They
Unknown: worked second or even
third jobs to pay rent and buy
food. That only gets harder when
the cost of living goes up.
HARRIS
zeroing in on pocketbook issues,
proposing a ban on corporate
price gouging on food and
groceries.
Adam Curry: What a what a
beautiful gift to the
Republicans. I mean, it's as if,
if I didn't know any better, and
maybe I do, this is planned
like, let's just bring in price
controls. Every political
historian in America knows that
it works. Every historian
John C Dvorak: of world power
knows that it works. You said,
knows that it works, that
Adam Curry: it doesn't work. I'm
sorry, knows it doesn't work.
Every world historian knows that
this is the definition of
socialist price fixing, and it's
it usually results in food lines
and less choice if any food are
on the show, because you're not
John C Dvorak: going to make a
product that that loses money by
government edict. So you stop
making the product,
Adam Curry: making this, and
stop putting it on shelves, up
to $25,000
Unknown: in down payment support
for first time homeowners, a tax
credit of up to $6,000 for
families with the newborn, and
capping the cost of insulin at
$35 in out of pocket expenses
for prescription drugs at 2000
Adam Curry: it was really
interesting to see the
Washington thing. The Washington
Post opinion Harris's economic
plan is full of gimmicks that
don't make sense. Like, whoa,
did Obama put in a call or
something? And, and you look at
it, and it's like, you know,
they're kind of like, oh well,
you know, yeah, the president
opted for blaming big business,
and she vowed to go after price
gouging. But it was so
interesting that the Washington
Post is even crazier than
Kamala. They said here from this
opinion piece, which I don't
think I saw anyone pick up on.
She offers clever tax incentives
to help make it happen, but her
proposed $25,000 in down payment
assistance for first time
homebuyers stimulates the demand
side, which risks putting upward
pressure on prices. I think
that's correct. That's
John C Dvorak: the first thing I
thought when they when she
suggested 25,000 that well,
there goes a yes, real estate is
going up.
Adam Curry: That's that's just
like when, when Tesla got the
seven and a half $1,000
incentive, everyone just put
seven and a half $1,000 on top
of the Tesla price. That's
exactly what happens. Yes, what
you do. But then they go on such
a measure might make sense of
Miss Harris paid for it, but Ms
interesting, isn't she married
to Doug? Ms Harris paid for by
eliminating other demand side
housing subsidies, such as
mortgage interest deduction. Are
they insane? At the Washington
Post?
John C Dvorak: Read that again.
I don't know what they said.
Such
Adam Curry: a measure the
$25,000 down payment might make
sense if Ms Harris paid for by
eliminating other demand side
housing subsidies such as the
mortgage interest deduction. Oh,
my God, you're right, roughly
$30 billion annual drain on
federal revenue that benefits.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go for that
and see how that gets your
votes, of
Adam Curry: course. So I don't
understand. What the Washington
Post is thinking here?
John C Dvorak: Well, there that
that is a communist statement,
correct? It's
Adam Curry: the one thing that
actually makes, uh, buying a
home kind of affordable, even
though Trump capped it at, what
is it, 10,000
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he kept it
at 10, which was every Well, as
you know, on our show, we had
the our our famous accountant,
to the to the rich and famous,
Adam Curry: yes, the anonymous
gay accountant, yeah, he, uh,
John C Dvorak: pointed out that.
And I'll remind everyone that
when they're always these, these
rich guys are all hearing about
what the Democrats were saying,
which, oh, there's a tax cuts
for the rich. And then when they
got their tax bill, which went
way up, yeah, if you many of
them million
Adam Curry: dollar, you know, $5
million mortgage,
John C Dvorak: because they have
these, these, because they
capped the mortgage at $10,000
the write off at $10,000 and it
hurt, it hurt the rich. The rich
weren't benefiting from the
Trump tax cuts at all because of
this one little trick that he
pulled where so the whole idea
that the rich are benefiting
from Trump's tax cuts is a
blatant lie. Oh, I was
Adam Curry: going to say
specious.
John C Dvorak: No, no, the
difference being specious and a
blatant lie.
Adam Curry: What they really
what somebody really should go
after, but they're all too
afraid, is insurance companies
Hone owner insurance, I think
ours went up 35% and that's,
that hurts. That's
John C Dvorak: a gouge.
Adam Curry: It's Oh, it's
because of climate change. John,
they literally say, oh, no, I'm
sorry. It's because of climate
change. And if you want to
switch to another, cheaper
insurance, you'll never get
insured after that again.
John C Dvorak: Yes, as and now
you have another story. It's I
told this. I have told this
story probably twice on the show
when I was taking driver's
education so I can get out of a
ticket. You know
Adam Curry: the three hour
class,
John C Dvorak: the three hour
class. So I took this class in
Chinatown, Oakland, because it
was the cheapest. And this guy
was given to see who had never
talked about driver safe. He
was, he was lecturing us about
the sleazeball insurance
companies. Yeah, and he's
mentioned the fact that there's
a database that all insurance
companies use. And if you start
swapping from one company to the
next to the next, after you do
it like you just share done, you
do it once, okay, you can do it
once. You do it again, you'll
never get insurance. And he went
on and showed the evidence of
anyone on. We went to lunch. I
came back, the guy was under
arrest.
Adam Curry: Wow, I don't
remember that story. He
John C Dvorak: was under arrest.
Rest, that's great. And they
close the class and send us our
money back. Wow, I never found
out what they arrested him for,
Adam Curry: probably hitting up
on some cheekies.
John C Dvorak: He wasn't hitting
up on anybody. The whole thing
was very suspicious. Here's the
Adam Curry: second part of this
ABC report
Unknown: tonight. Many questions
remain about how Harris would
get her plan through Congress
and how it would be paid for.
But in North Carolina, the Vice
President focused on drawing a
contrast with Donald Trump. He
plans to give billionaires
massive tax cuts year after
year. You know, I think that if
you want to know who someone
cares about, look who they fight
for.
And she attacked Trump's
proposal for tariffs on all
imports.
It will mean higher prices on
just about every one of your
daily needs, a Trump tax on gas,
a Trump tax on food, a Trump tax
on clothing, a Trump tax on over
the counter, medication.
Tonight,
the Trump campaign firing back
bashing Harris's economic plan
as extremely damaging and a
massive expansion of government
control.
John C Dvorak: Just stop for a
second again. I don't I didn't
notice it because I don't have a
lot of Harris clips, but her
adenoidal that, which is kind of
a California accent, I think
somebody describing was as a
Berkeley accent, that
Adam Curry: she's not humming,
she's not humming, she's not
humming. No, she's
John C Dvorak: not a Berkeley
Hummer. That's different than
this accent she has. This is
more typical. It is a nasally
deviated knowing and when you
because when you watch her on
TV, it's not as noticeable as
when you're playing these clips.
When you're playing these clips
that ought just pure audio. It's
unacceptable.
Adam Curry: Yes, unacceptable.
John C Dvorak: So I think you'll
see how anyone can listen to her
voice and vote for well, just
that alone, just as
Adam Curry: a political
consultant from the courage of
our consulting group, I would
say the entire idea here is not
about truth, but about
connecting tax to Trump
alliteration, tax, Trump tax, a
Trump tax, a Trump tax. And of
course, it's ridiculous to say
that it's going to be a Trump
tax on gas, because that's the
one thing we know that will
definitely go. Down. So this is
so bad that now people are
calling her kamu law, as in
communists, which is very funny.
So this may be, is probably
going to be Trump's new term.
We're going to miss out on the
cackling combo, I'm afraid. But
it was so bad that CNN did the,
I mean, just an outrageous
comparison on the economy
between Trump and Harris. Listen
closely and
Unknown: what does the poll tell
you about the different ways
that Harris and Trump are
talking about the economy,
which, of course, is the issue
Americans say they care about
the most.
Adam Curry: Okay, so it is a
comparison between Trump and
Harris on the economy. That's
what Americans care about most.
Come on in polling, kid, yeah,
Unknown: economy, economy,
economy. So this is rather
interesting. All right. So this
is the Harris versus Trump
margin in Arizona, Georgia,
Nevada, North Carolina. Look at
this. Donald Trump holds an
advantage in who voters trust
more on the economy. Look at
that. He leads Harris by 12
points. But interestingly
enough, this is a question that
I really don't think pollsters
asked nearly enough. Which is,
who cares about people more?
Like you look at this, Harris
holds a five point advantage on
that. You go back to 2012 Mitt
Romney won on the economy.
Adam Curry: Do you see what they
did? So they have two boxes. One
has Trump's head, plus five plus
12 for Trump on the economy and
play and Kamala leads Trump by
five points on what people
people think that she'll care
more about people like me, which
has nothing to do with the
economy. It was, it's I've never
seen any witch or rude. I've
never seen anything more
dystopian 1980 fours than this.
But
Unknown: interestingly enough,
this is a question that I really
don't think pollsters ask nearly
enough, which is, who cares
about people more like you? Look
at this, Harris holds a five
point advantage on that. You go
back to 2012 Mitt Romney won on
the economy, but Barack Obama
won that election because he won
on this question. Cares about
people like you. And Harris
right now is leading on this,
less of a lead than Trump has on
the economy. But right now, I
think voters are balancing these
two thoughts in their head, and
that's why we have such a close
race across the Sunbelt
battleground so
Adam Curry: cares about people
like you. That must mean black
people or people of so called
color. What else could it mean?
Does it mean people who were
attorney generals, people who
slept with Willie Brown, people
who you know were Senators. What
does it mean? Women, no people
who care about people like me.
It's racist, is what it is.
John C Dvorak: It's totally
racist. Yeah, uh huh, you're
seeing, you know, I don't you
know, CNN is lost. It's a lost
cause.
Adam Curry: They're all lost,
John and be happy they're still
here. It's the only reason we
still have a gig. So then final,
I think this is final for me.
This 2019 clip popped up, and I
just wanted to deconstruct it a
little bit, because there is
something interesting that no
one really went bothered to go
into.
Unknown: I will snatch their
patent, so that we will take
over. And yes, we
can do that. Yes, yes,
we can do that.
Yes, we can do that. It's the
question is, do you have the
will to do it? I have the will
to do it.
Adam Curry: So here she is
talking about, this
John C Dvorak: is a great clip,
by the way, and you have to,
kind of, I had to listen to it
two or three times to hear it.
Yeah. So she's, she says, snatch
your patent. Yes, they
Adam Curry: will snatch their
patent. And of course, the the
comments on X are, you know how
patent law works, baby. Well,
December 7 of 2023 the Biden
administration announced a new
policy called march in rights.
It has not been used yet march
in rights that will allow it to
seize patents for medicines
developed with government
funding if it believes their
prices are too high. The policy
sets a roadmap for government,
so called march in rights which
have never been used before.
They would allow government to
grant additional licenses to
third parties for products
developed using federal funds if
the original patent holder does
not make them available to the
public on reasonable terms. Talk
about a bunch of commies. Well,
John C Dvorak: this is actually
not an a completely
unprecedented situation. Oh,
dude, it's been written about,
talked about before the CIA and
the intelligence state has been
snatching patents for years,
really, yes, they do it because
it's national security. If you,
if you come up with, like, a new
weapon that is a, that's just
some sort of crazy thing, and
you, you try to patent it,
you'll, you'll have the patent
pulled. They'll hold it aside.
You won't even get paid. Wow. I
did not know about that. This
has been going on for some time,
and every once in a while it
gets written up. That seems
unconstitutional to me. It's
totally unconstitutional, but
it's never been it's never been
challenged. I don't know been
doing it. They've been doing it.
Yes, there's a bunch of these,
these missing things that would
be in in the they don't even
allow the patent to be published
because of the national security
aspect to it. This is
interesting. Just yeah, it's
been going on for some time.
I've read about this for
probably these 10 years. So all
of this, every once a while,
some guy will come out, some guy
with the best you know, the
government screwed me out of my
patent and blah, blah, blah, and
they bitch and moan about it,
and then nothing comes of it.
Adam Curry: Well, this, of
course, leads to much fodder for
Trump. Kamala went
Unknown: full communist. You
heard that she went full
communist. She wants to destroy
our country after causing
catastrophic inflation, comrade
Kamala announced comrade
Institute, socialist price
controls, you saw that never
worked before, never ever
worked,
Adam Curry: didn't we? I thought
we tested that in polling at the
at the consulting group, comrade
comrade Kamala. I mean, it
didn't work, but now it works.
She,
John C Dvorak: I don't think we
did.
Adam Curry: John, this is what
consultants do we lie about what
we did? Are you kidding? Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, we
did. This
Unknown: is the Maduro plan,
Venezuela. Maduro plan of like
the old Soviet Union. This is
they tried it. How did the
Soviet Union work out? It became
Russia, smaller versions. It was
a smaller version. It will cause
rationing, hunger and
skyrocketing prices, just like
their inflation Reduction Act
calls one of the great scams of
all time. They got it approved
with a beautiful name, inflation
reduction, because inflation
under their system has been so
bad, it's gone up much more than
50% you know they say 3040, 50,
much more people are being
devastated. They're being
devastated.
Adam Curry: So he's got that
going form, and then this day
one, day one. I mean, it's also
obvious,
Unknown: yesterday, Kamala laid
out her so called economic plan.
She says she's going to lower
the cost of food and housing
starting on day one. But day one
for Kamala was three and a half
years ago. So why didn't she do
it then? So this is day 1305
we're at 1305 so why isn't she
doing it now? I
Adam Curry: mean, it's almost
like they called each other and
said, Hey, listen, get me out of
this thing. I'm sick and tired
of it. I'm gonna do some
communist crap, and then you
call me out on it. We're good to
go. It'll work, Don it'll work.
It's fine. And and he still
hasn't figured out our pet,
Mame, I mean, this test is
John C Dvorak: gonna happen. Now
it's too late.
Unknown: This woman is nuts.
Look, people say, be nice. Have
you heard her laugh? That is the
laugh of a crazy person. That is
the laugh of a crazy, laugh of a
lunatic. Have you heard you
know, they prohibited her. They
prohibited her for laughing.
I've been waiting for her to
laugh because as soon as she
laughs, the election's over.
Adam Curry: I think now, listen
to what he's doing. He's putting
it in her head, if you laugh
like that, which she can't help.
John C Dvorak: No, it's because
and I, yeah, I've got second
thoughts about your earlier PBA,
or whatever it was called, yeah.
PB, diagnosis. PBA, yes, I ever
since you brought that back into
the conversation, I'm wondering.
And of course, we have a, you
have a clip coming up that'll go
ahead, go ahead. Yeah, do
whatever you need. Well, the
clip I wanted to bring is the is
the Jordan Peterson clip that he
was on kill me show over the
weekend, and he brought in this
idea of, I didn't even know
about these things, Cluster B.
Oh, we
Adam Curry: talked about Cluster
B.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
talking about Cluster B
Adam Curry: the right let me
just tell you why I know about
Cluster B is because of the
disaffected podcast by Josh
Slocum. And Josh Slocum, this a
great podcast. And he talks, and
he's, he's gay guy who is
completely gone, against the
whole he was a Democrat. He's
gone. I think he lives in
Washington, Washington, and he,
he specifically talks about
clush to be and it's a medical
term. And I didn't know about it
until I started listening to his
pod. It's a great podcast, by
the way. Good podcast to listen
to is, I have not heard this
Peterson bit.
John C Dvorak: Well, this play,
this is about Kamala and and I
didn't know about, I knew about
the. The variety of syndromes
within Cluster B, because they
they're discussed on a
borderline, borderline personal
borderline personality disorder
is one of them, and there's
others, and
Adam Curry: which is serious, by
the way, not making fun of that.
It's serious, it's
John C Dvorak: serious, but it's
not a mental illness, that's the
thing, yeah, but
Adam Curry: you can't you either
you decide to live with someone
who has border it was a
borderliner, or you have to
leave them see my second
marriage. The
John C Dvorak: we have a link in
the show notes to a discussion
of Cluster B. It's a YouTube
video. You can check it out.
It's very interesting. But here
is Jordan Peterson discussing or
bringing it up on kill me's
weekend show, and it was I just
caught my attention with
Unknown: a huge week ahead, the
Democratic National Convention
is about to kick off and polls
showing, but the Democratic
Republican nominee in a virtual
dead heat in all the
battleground states, the
Democratic party seems to be
coming to their senses, if we're
to believe what they Say, almost
echoing what Republicans have
been saying for years. We need a
stronger border. We need to
tackle inflation. We need to
essentially abandon the woke
initiatives, the green
initiatives, and have the Dems
really come seen the light? Are
they really come to the senses,
or they pretending to to get
elected, because they know,
right? They know their ideas are
so unpopular. Let's ask one of
the smartest people you'll ever
talk to or listen to, clinical
psychologist and author of the
host of the Jordan Peterson
podcast. Dr Jordan Peterson. Dr
Peterson, great blazer. Great to
see you. First off,
Adam Curry: are we to believe
with the debt, by the way, just
looking at that blazer makes me
cluster be Krauts are saying now
that
Unknown: they're just getting
off the wokeness?
No, I don't believe so. I think
that this is a classic maneuver
by what would you say, a group
of advisors and maybe the VP
herself, who show the pathology
associated with what's known as
the Cluster B of personality
disorders. And I really believe
this. And the strategy would be
this, the radical leftist, and I
would put Kamala Harris in that
category. Have provoked for
years, for years on the DEI
racial division culture war
front, constantly prodding and
poking, when the Conservatives
finally woke up enough to
respond, the the manipulators at
the bottom of the Democrat
organization said, Oh, we don't
even know what you're talking
about, all this culture war
stuff. Where did you invent
that? The real issue is the
economy. The real issue is
health care. The real issue is
education. All you people are
strange and weird for bringing
anything else up. We've been
focusing on the important issues
all along. I don't know what
you're imagining, and that's
classic cluster being
manipulative behavior. And if we
think that this new messaging on
the part of a candidate who's
using nothing but image to
promote her views is reflects a
deeper reality than we're
deluded beyond comprehension.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
manipulative behavior, and
that's what's going on with the
media. And the fact that Kamala
has not done a speech, she won't
talk to anybody, she hasn't done
that, that crazy laugh, but she
has actually, now and again, the
whole thing is a giant
manipulation, which is a Cluster
B, part of the Cluster B, which
is a group of erratic disorders.
I'll read what they are, the
anti social behaviors, one of
them borderline personalities,
another one, histrionic
personality disorder. We all
know somebody like that, and
also the narcissistic
personality disorder. All these
are in this one Cluster B, and
they, and he says that the
Democrat Party is just using a
bunch of people that have this,
these, this, this problem, or,
if you want to call it a
problem, or, in fact, this looks
like an advantage in so far as
the media is probably involved
with this, it's unbelievable.
Well, it's not unbelievable. I
just stopped me from saying I
just got
Adam Curry: a text message from
President Trump. Yes, thank you,
President Trump. They want me in
jail in one month before I'm
sentenced by a corrupt Democrat
judge. Please read link. Stopped
opt out? Yeah, I don't think so.
It's and it's in all stop, to
opt to stop, to opt out on this
number, but we'll send you five
more. I swear to God, I'm going
to do this just for the show,
because I love every because I
love my truck, I'm going to do
stop, and let's see how long it
takes me to get a new message.
Stop,
John C Dvorak: you'll get a new
message before the end of the
show. I bought quicker
Adam Curry: than that. Okay,
stop. So I'm alive, signaling
that I'm alive, we'll see how
long it takes.
John C Dvorak: It's a, it's a
on, I don't know what to say
about it. I like I said, That's
Jared.
Adam Curry: That's jared's Big
Red or whatever it is. It's the,
it's the counter to. Um, act
blue. Act blue. Yeah, it's
horrible. It's, and it's, it's,
it makes me hate them. It really
does. Like, do you think I'm an
idiot? I know what that link is.
It's a link with chip in I know
what it is. I'm not gonna fall
for that, but that's what they
do every single time. It's
annoying, I get what must work?
Obviously, it
John C Dvorak: must work. It
must work, or they wouldn't be
doing it. They just figured
you're gonna annoy one person,
but they get a lot of money from
others, so, and there's probably
a lot of people that aren't you
know that they this is like
their social interaction.
They're getting all these cool
messages. Maybe,
Adam Curry: yeah, maybe some
people like that now they, now
they, I did not get a message
back saying you're opted out.
And I sometimes I think these
are just people who have phone
numbers and they're just doing
this. You know, they just can't,
it's not even, it's not even
automated system. So President
Biden joined ms Harris in
Maryland on their on the
campaign trail. And I have to
say, not Biden. This was daddy
longlegs. His face looked
different. I did not hear the
clicking clacking of the teeth,
and it wasn't really jacked up,
Joe. Listen today, Vice
Unknown: President Kamala Harris
standing side by side with
President Biden, her first
official event together since
Biden dropped out of the race.
Folks,
I'm an incredible partner. The
progress we made, she can make
one hell of a president
Maryland announcing the lowering
of prescription drug costs for
those using Medicare.
Adam Curry: So here's another
clip of him, started in January.
Now this all of a sudden, he's
jacked up. So, I mean, it's very
interesting. I don't know if
this is jacked up Joe now, or
what I believe it to be his
daddy, long legs with the mask.
Oh, you have successfully
unsubscribed. Okay, let's see
what happens next, starting
Unknown: in January of this
year, every senior in the United
States of America, no matter
what their cost of drugs. And
like I said, some of these
cancer drugs are 12,000 bucks a
year. Every single penny they
spend. They never have to spend
more than $2,000 a year for all
drugs. Surprise, surprise, Big
Pharma doesn't want this to
happen at all. The
pharmaceutical industry last
year, spent $400 million
lobbying to Congress to stop
this.
Adam Curry: Now, does this sound
like the actual Joe Biden to you
that we hear in all these
interviews? No, I don't think
this is jacked up Joe anymore. I
think this is a guy who's just
got the fumbling and bumbling
down, and he doesn't look like
him, and the hair in the back is
different. I look at hair, it
just it's not the same guy. The
real Biden may be alive, but I
don't think he's on the campaign
trail.
John C Dvorak: Well, the real
Biden is going to have to be the
gut. Well, maybe this will be
the Biden that comes up at the
at the DNC. That's what's going
to be interesting. Yeah, which
Biden we're going to get? Yeah,
I would like to see jacked up
Joe. Personally,
Adam Curry: I'm so afraid that
there's just going to be a big
poop and it's going to be
nothing, and he's not going to
do anything weird. I said it,
that he's not going to do
anything outrageous, just going
to be ho hum. You know, that's
John C Dvorak: probably right.
Yeah, I might. My hope is that
the protesters, 100,000 strong,
storm the place. Well, I
Adam Curry: have some updates
tonight.
Unknown: Chicago's guard is
already up. Fencing lining the
streets. Rose closed off to
vehicles, a large protective
zone built around the United
Center, where vice president
Harris is set to accept the
Democratic nomination for
president, and just like at the
Republican Convention in
Milwaukee, Secret Service
responsible for everything
inside that hardened perimeter,
local police taking the lead for
nearly everything else, is the
Chicago Police Department ready
for the DNC
said it for a while. The Chicago
Police Department is ready.
Chicago's
top cop says there are no
specific, incredible threats,
but to expect a heavy police
presence throughout the city.
It's
a huge project, but the Chicago
Police Department and the city
as a whole, is used to working
towards something this large.
Looming over the convention is
the promise of large scale
protests just blocks from the
United Center,
this is one of the streets we'll
be on. Yes, despite
months of legal battles over the
protest area, the largest
demonstration is expected to
draw more than 20,000 people.
Hatem Abu dhaya is one of the
lead organizers preparing to
voice his opposition to Israel's
war in Gaza kefir wearing dude,
the. What's the main message for
you guys?
Yeah, the main message is that
the Democrats who are going to
be in that building are
complicit in this war against
the Palestinian people.
Police Superintendent Larry
Snelling says his officers
received special training
focused on de escalation and
respecting constitutional
rights, but warns violent scenes
reminiscent of Chicago's 1968
Democratic convention will not
be tolerated.
We want to have fights in the
streets with people. Absolutely
not. But I want to make one
thing clear. I want to make this
perfectly clear. We need to know
the difference between rioting
and protesting that
says it's prepared for any
situation.
Adam Curry: So you recall that
there was some anger that they
weren't allowed to go where they
wanted to go the route. And I
guess they did some negotiation
with the city, and they have
reached an agreement.
Unknown: An agreement was
reached Friday between the city
of Chicago and a coalition of
demonstrators days before the
start of the Democratic National
Convention, we announce
it all the time. We talk about
how in the mass movements, power
can seize nothing without a
demand. The city
will allow the coalition to
march on the DNC, to use sound
equipment set up staging and
bring in at least seven portable
toilets during their
demonstrations. Earlier this
week, the city denied items in
the group's permit application,
citing safety concerns,
organizers felt the rules made
it impossible to share their
message of calling for an end to
US aid to Israel and a ceasefire
in Gaza. In response, the group
filed an emergency motion
alleging the denial was
unconstitutional. Hours before a
federal hearing, both sides got
back to the negotiating table.
We talked to the mayor himself,
directly, one of the top leaders
of our coalition, spoke with the
mayor, and we did the grassroots
organizing that we know how to
do, and we won what we needed to
win. The group
says they are still fighting for
a longer marching route. They
say the route they are approved
for is too short. They also want
the city to approve the usage of
tents in the parks for medical
staff and members of the press
to use. The mayor addressed
negotiations earlier in the day.
It's fundamental to our
democracy. Want to make sure
that these individuals have
everything that they need, to
make sure that their voices are
heard. The group
is approved to be in Union Park
and park number 578, near
Washington and Damon, with
restrictions, the city of
Chicago has released the
schedule for permitted parades
and assemblies. The first is
scheduled for Sunday evening,
tonight.
Adam Curry: Tonight. Kicks off
tonight. And then I want to
John C Dvorak: note a couple of
things, please. You noticed, of
all they all the reporting is
the following, well, we're
prepared. Unlike in 1968 we're
prepared in 1968 this the so
called lack of preparation
involved. They didn't have the
Secret Service and the FBI. They
had the National Guard out. Yes,
they had basically the army,
plus every cop in Illinois was
out. There's this bullcrap that
they're going to be more
prepared. There's no way the
National Guard was guarding this
convention and it got out of
control. There's that they're
going to, I think, if these guys
can be kept from storming the
stage, not to mention the fact
that people can get in, because
there's a audience
Adam Curry: there. Was fighting
inside the the DNC in if you
John C Dvorak: can keep people,
I don't see how they're going to
keep Democrats. If you've been
to one of the ever been to a
convention, there is, there was
the public is in there. It's,
you know, there's a convention
floor, which has all the
delegates, but surrounding them
are is the general public. You
get in the fact that there's
going to be protesters inside,
right off the bat, because
they're going to find their way,
and they're going to get a pass.
I'm Oh, yeah, no, I'm okay.
They're going to get in. So the
place this is not I. If they
can't really make a mess of this
and cause nothing but chaos,
then they suck. In other words,
hippies could do a better job in
1968 than you. You guys, a
violent group, Hamas, you can't
do it better than that. I'd be
I'd be stunned stop.
Adam Curry: President Trump
texts me again. New number,
John C Dvorak: no already,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, from Trump,
and it says, Adam. I had a
minute, so I wrote you a
personal letter.
Unknown: Take,
Adam Curry: take a look. Stop to
end. There you go. That's how
fast it goes.
John C Dvorak: So that was less
than 10 minutes.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah,
here's Governor Pritzker on his
desire to bring the DNC to
Chicago, and what he feels about
what might be just a few bad
apples.
Unknown: Every time I saw
President Biden, I literally
would shake his hand and the
first thing I'd say to him is,
we're going to have the
convention in Chicago, right?
And he would. Laugh after the
third or fourth time Chicago
fashion, just promoting the
city, you got to keep working.
You know what I mean. So anyway,
that's one reason. I think
another is that, you know, we
show off the values of the
Democratic Party, we have,
literally, we've protected
people's freedoms here, the
freedom to choose, the right to
read a book that you want to
read.
Those rights often exercise in
Chicago the right to protest,
but some of these groups, as we
mentioned, are amping up their
rhetoric to cause disruption.
One group saying, quote, f the
GNC the G for genocidal in an
Instagram post, and another post
saying, quote, let's crash the
party with a list of
demonstrations and rallies in
Union Park. CPD superintendent
Larry Stelling has been training
officers for a year for this
event, and has repeatedly said
that his force is ready to allow
protesters to exercise their
rights while keeping a peace.
Governor Pritzker says he has
faith in that plan.
There may be some bad apples,
usually they'll come from out of
town to do it. So there's been a
lot of planning, I want to be
clear, every four years, and
I've been to almost every
convention since I was able to
vote every four years. At a
Democratic and Republican
convention, there are protests,
and there will be protests this
time. We're going to protect
people's freedom of speech, but
we're also going to protect the
people who live here and the
delegates that are coming to
visit.
Adam Curry: Did you guru in the
troll room says I was there in
Grant Park for the 68 DNC
convention. The cops were brutal
in beating the living daylights
use a different word out of
anybody that was congregating
around there, I had to run for
my life to escape the
pandemonium at age 18, boots on
the ground.
John C Dvorak: The other thing
they have to deal with, which
there's they're starting to talk
about, is the hotels.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Burnham,
John C Dvorak: this was a
problem in 68 too. In fact, I
had a headline of front page of
the sun times in the last
newsletter, which was an epic
fail, by the way.
Adam Curry: Yeah, no kidding.
Thank God for meetups.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so the so
the there's a fear that they're
going to track down the
delegates as staying at the
various hotels around Chicago,
and they're going to raid the
hotels, pester them.
Adam Curry: Now, that may be
thwarted by the latest idea, as
DNC attendees, thanks to Planned
Parenthood, and I would presume
the organizers, uh, will have
opportunity to get free
abortions and free vasectomies
on site. Yes, it's I'm not
kidding.
John C Dvorak: Sign up boys for
your free vasectomies.
Adam Curry: They have a van, and
they have a van. Uh, beep, beep.
Health care, no matter where
it's actually an RV with a slide
out. That's that's where they do
the vasectomy part. Chicago,
we're headed your way to provide
free vasectomies and abortions
Planned Parenthood from great
rivers. That's good idea.
John C Dvorak: Go. Might as
well. The Democrat parties, they
notorious for having their balls
cut off. Nice
Adam Curry: looking van, by the
way, RV, it's nice got it's got
a slide out, everything. It's
got to be a, goodness, great.
That's got to be a 47 footer,
huh? Everyone's laughing about
that. Of course, what you do on,
on X, laugh about that stuff.
Laugh about it,
Unknown: yeah. All right, all of
this. I
John C Dvorak: got some, I got
some Trump Harris stuff. Here. I
want to get back and forth from
NPR. This is Harris Trump back
and forth discussion that took
place this week,
Unknown: Vice President Kamala
Harris and former President
Donald Trump outlined their
plans to combat high prices. The
dueling proposals reflect just
how important inflation and
economy are to voters and pierce
Franco Ordonez has been looking
at both plans. Franco, thanks
for being with us.
Thanks for having me,
Scott. Let's begin with the
Harris plan. What can you tell
us? Well, I
mean, she's been facing some
criticism for not offering her
own vision of the job, how she
would distinguish herself from
Biden, from bidenomics. Frankly,
in North Carolina yesterday, she
did acknowledge how tough it is
for many middle income families,
because, look, the bills add up,
food, rent, gas,
back to school, clothes,
prescription medication. After
all that, for many families,
there's not much left at the end
of the month.
And while she didn't really get
too specific, she did offer some
broad outlines of what she
described as a more forward
looking economic plan. It
includes assistance for
homeowners, caps on drug prices.
There's a lot of attention on a
proposal for a federal ban on
price gouging in the food
industry. And she also wants to
raise the child tax credit more
and eliminate taxes on tips.
Which those two things? Things,
by the way, are also being
proposed by Trump as well.
Yeah. And so there is agreement
between parts of the Harris and
Trump plan. No, huge contrast,
aren't there?
Yeah, big contrast. And Trump
also laid out parts of his plan
this week, again, not deep in
specifics, but he plans to also
eliminate taxes on Social
Security benefits. He also
talked a lot about boosting
fossil fuels and nuclear energy.
He really wants to roll back
many of Biden's efforts to fight
climate change, which he blames
for rising energy costs.
Adam Curry: Tell me if you don't
want me to do this anymore,
urgent, urgent. Ted Cruz's race
was named one of the most likely
to flip Russian emergency $32.75
to provide critical support.
Stop to end. It's just so you
flood
John C Dvorak: Well you can, you
can hold off for a while. Okay,
all right. But so you got a
message within 10 minutes of
your opting out and another one.
And now you just got a second
message, different numbers, of
course. And gee, everybody
wonders why I put my phone in a
drawer. Yes, different number,
yeah, of course. This is, should
be illegal. These are number
spoofers.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's time for a
government ID so it can block
everyone who's sick. Okay, all
right. So, and I've heard people
look at these two economic plans
and say, there's almost no
daylight. You might as well go
for the for the for the person
who's joyous,
John C Dvorak: yeah, the person
who's a liar, who won't do any
of these things. Yeah, vote for
them. That's the thing I've been
hearing, which is people who,
who hear that the same basic
theory. You know, theoretical?
Yes, why would? Why would the
Democrats, all of a sudden
change course to such an extreme
and actually follow through?
Does it make sense to anybody?
Well,
Adam Curry: unfortunately,
there's a great documentary
called, it's James, I think
James Lindsay. He's in it a lot.
I don't know if it's I think
someone else did. It's called
beneath sheep's clothing, and it
tracks the Marxist movement in
the United States back to, you
know, basically World War One,
when the women had to go into
the factories and government
schools came into play. And
we've had 100 years of Marxist
teaching and ideology and the
people, and I know some of them
who are in Chicago, they really,
really believe in people like
Kamala Harris. They believe in
the black lady. They believe in
the lady. They believe in you
know that Trump will take away
your rights. They have extreme
victim mentality. And of course,
you know, throughout the
documentary, not atypical for
James Lindsay is, you know,
obviously it's Christian
nationalism, which is the
problem, which is, which is the
inverse of Marxism. It's, it's,
I don't think it's available for
free. I paid for it 12 bucks,
well worth watching for a bit of
history of education in American
and no one's ever going to
convince these people
differently. You're just not. I
mean, they are for there. It's a
form of MK Ultra. It's
brainwashing. They have been
brainwashed. Generation of
generations. Everyone who I
know, who didn't go to school in
recent years, myself included,
is okay. Everyone who went
through the program, not okay. I
John C Dvorak: went to the
program. No, I went to the
program in the in the belly of
the beast, University of
California, Berkeley, not
Adam Curry: as but it's
progressively gotten worse with
media blanketing. I'm
John C Dvorak: looking back on
it and I'm wondering, well, you
know,
Adam Curry: I do have my
questions about you, to be quite
honest, you were a Democrat for
a while, but, you know, you got
saved. Something happened?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I came to
my senses. Yeah. Well, that
Adam Curry: does How old were
you when you came to your sense?
John C Dvorak: It was a pretty
late in the game.
Adam Curry: I think I was, there
you go.
John C Dvorak: These are young.
That is a problem, but, but it
after a while, you keep noticing
that the Democrats, the way I
saw it, the Democrats, were
going out of their way to to
kill me. They are. They were out
to kill the baby boomers to get
ridden. They're they're very and
the population control oriented
when the Vietnam War was killing
the baby boomers. Yeah, the
situation that would Jimmy
Carter, but
Adam Curry: hold on. But at
least then television was
showing blown up guys on the
battlefield that was new. You
don't see blown up guys in Iraq,
Afghanistan, any you know,
Syria, you don't see that. You
don't see the horrors of war. By
the way, we finally know what
the C in John C Dvorak stands
for, communist. That's right,
commie. I mean, that was unfair.
That was unfair.
John C Dvorak: It was unfair.
I'm not a communist. I never had
been. In fact, even when I was a
little kid, we, there was a lot
of anti communist stuff taught
to us,
Adam Curry: well, yeah, you went
through, you went through the
Red Scare and all that. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we and it was
always it was, it was it was
probably good. It probably had
some long yes effect, yes.
Adam Curry: This is why it's
good. And I think we're going
through a cycle where Kamala is
being called communists,
communists, whatever you know
they're doing with the K to tie
it into common communist Yeah.
And is good. We need another Red
Scare. We need to be afraid of
communism is Marxism
specifically, but Kamala
communists, it goes well
together. We need that with that
is what's necessary to wake
people up again and that they
want. I
John C Dvorak: think the house
on America, un American
Activities Committee would be a
useful tool. Yeah, that's been
disbanded in the 70s.
Adam Curry: John for Congress.
There you go.
John C Dvorak: There's a there's
a that I wrote about this. Yes,
you brought me in. You did. You
did,
Adam Curry: all right. Clip two,
John C Dvorak: part two. Clip
two. And
Unknown: I gather they also
included some sharp attacks on
vice president terrorists.
They certainly did. I mean,
Trump's been under pressure from
Republicans to tone down the
personal attacks, and I've
spoken with allies who say Trump
should really stick to his
winning message, which is, are
you better off now with Harris
and Biden than you were with
Trump? I mean, the election is
less than three months away, and
they say that he's wasting
precious opportunities to
highlight the contrast high
issues like the economy and the
border, but it doesn't look like
he's going to hold back from
criticizing Harris, and not just
on policy.
I think I'm entitled to personal
attacks. I don't have a lot of
respect for I don't have a lot
of respect for her intelligence,
and I think she'll be a terrible
president, and I think it's very
important that we win, and
whether the personal attacks are
good bad. I mean, she certainly
attacks me personally. She
actually called me weird. He's
weird.
Yeah, that weird line has really
gotten under his skin,
apparently, and ultimately,
though, what he made clear at
his press conference was that
he's the candidate, and he needs
to do it his own way.
Adam Curry: He's so lucky he has
Vance to go out there and
translate him. What a genius
choice.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and he
keeps saying that he's regretful
that he picked Vance. I see the
media says that I have seen no
evidence of this.
Adam Curry: Did you see the
latest Vanity Fair?
John C Dvorak: They know I did.
Oh, they did a real hit job on
who, non
Adam Curry: Trump, Trump. Donald
Trump has watched a video clip
of the attempt on his life at a
Pennsylvania rally, quote over
and over again, leading to fears
that he may be suffering from
PTSD. This is, according to
people familiar with the
campaign. The forms were
John C Dvorak: that I Okay. I
heard this. I heard about this.
And this, this idea that Trump
has PTSD. Here
Adam Curry: it is. He's been
watching that seven second clip
of how close he was to getting
shot right in the head. Over and
over again, the Republican close
to the campaign told Vanity
Fair, the Republican close to
the Trump campaign, I just love
that the Republican, some dude
who voted Republican once, who's
sweeping the floor, told Vanity
Fair that the former president's
recent run of appearances and
subsequent gaffes felt like he
was choosing to lose allies of
Trump see His conspiratorial
messages and insults based on
race as anything but productive.
This comes back to your clip.
They want him to focus on his
attacks on policy issues such as
immigration and the economy,
rather than personal attacks
against Harris. This is
literally what the NPR guy just
said. So it's the same. It's
messaging. This
John C Dvorak: is, this is a
schema? Yes, a schema. And I
think the mistake they're making
is that when they brought the
PTSD thing up, and this has come
up in the conversation around
the house, they're getting a
sympathy vote for Trump. He's so
Adam Curry: stupid. They all
they do all they do with
everything. Was a huge I think
it's a blunder. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I agree if you
think that Trump is suffering
from PTSD because they shot at
him, that which is possible,
yeah, but then you feel sorry
for Trump. Oh, that's terrible.
He's suffering from the horrible
attempt on his life. I feel bad
about that. Yeah, this is not
what you're trying to do here,
to get him voted out. But
Adam Curry: you're right. It's,
it's a schema. It's the same,
same messaging in Vanity Fair of
all places as NPR, brought to
you by any Liebowitz,
John C Dvorak: yeah, this is,
well, this is all coordinated,
yes,
Adam Curry: yes. It's great.
Hello. Four more. You. Years. So
done with this nonsense. All
right. Final clip, Franco, what
Unknown: will you be looking for
at the Democratic National
Convention next week?
Well, I mean, the economy isn't
the strongest issue for
Democrats, so I'm not so sure
how much they're going to be
talking about that. You were
just talking about the protests
over Gaza. Are they going to
find their way into the arena? I
mean, there is going to be a lot
of attention on Harris next week
for good and bad. So I will want
to see the contrast with the
Republican convention in
Milwaukee from just a few weeks
ago, where there really was this
kind of sense of inevitability
among Republicans that Trump was
going to win. I mean, the change
the race has changed so much.
The dynamics have changed so
much. I'm also, of course,
focusing a lot on the Trump
campaign. So I will be watching
how they respond and try to take
back some of the spotlight. Next
week, I expect Trump will be
pretty busy as well. Yeah,
Adam Curry: counter programming,
of course, he's already, he's
already signaled that he's gonna
do something big. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he does that all
the time. Yeah, that's a smart
idea
Adam Curry: that we done with
Trump Harris.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I think so.
Well
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the
man who put the C in schema, say
hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only Mr. John
C,
John C Dvorak: D, radio, Mr.
Adam curry and Maria ship C
Woodson, brown fee near subs,
award games. Nice out there.
Hello,
Adam Curry: trolls. Very helpful
today, trying to count you
trolls. Okay, there we go. 2418,
nice, up, up from last week. The
closer we get to the election,
the more it looks like a horse
race, the more the trolls want
to tune in and hear about the
schemas that are going on. And
there in the darkness is the
shining light of curry and
Dvorak to help you understand
something like that, to help you
understand what's going on in
your world. Yoke trolls hanging
out in the troll room. Troll
room.io. Of course, this live
stream 24/7 you can drop in just
you can lurk. Whatever happened
to lurking used to be, I was
just lurking. Nope, no. Lawyer,
you control. That's really the
whole idea. It's a 24/7 live
podcasts, repeats of podcasts
that are all part of the big no
agenda nation station. And every
single Thursday and Sunday, when
we kick it off live before that,
we have Darren O'Neill, Darren
O'Neal doing the Rock and Roll
pre show. And there's always
some something interesting after
our show. It's good. And you can
also listen to this in the
modern podcast apps drop the
legacy apps. You will
eventually, because something,
if you like this show, if it's
not this show, there will be
some other podcast that has
dropped the legacy apps drop an
average of three to four every
single day. I know this because
I know all the hosting companies
and, you know, it gets fed back
to them, up that, and sometimes
it's just an episode, you know,
Spotify literally removes
certain episodes they don't
like, which is, like, that's
weird.
Unknown: Don't use the word
weird.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. So I
wanted to compliment. I wanted
to compliment Darren for doing a
call out for poor old Greg kin
who died? Yes, my life's in
general. Local boys like lives
in Berkeley, my
Adam Curry: life's in jeopardy.
Baby only had one hit,
John C Dvorak: one, yeah, and
that wasn't his best song. No,
he was a, basically a bar band.
Did you know him? I didn't know.
I'm never met him, but he was,
you'd see him around town. He
was just one of the locals.
Adam Curry: Pick up one of those
modern podcast apps at podcast
apps.com as a benefit, there's
something I want to mention.
Every one of the modern podcast
Apps has a donate button for the
show, and so when you're
listening to it on the app,
you're like, you know, I should
support these guys, because the
value I'm getting out of it. You
just look at the top, and
there's a little little button
that some say support. Some say
someone has a little dollar
sign, or a euro sign. You tap it
goes right to no agenda
donations.com. That is also an
innovation we put into
podcasting, 2.0 you can't do
that on Apple. Can't do it on
Spotify. Just a little little
added bonus, which I think is
good, is handy. Same for DH. Oh,
I'm sorry, dH, unplugged is
still on. What's that stupid
feed burner? You got to talk to
Horowitz about that.
John C Dvorak: Well, he listens
to the show. You can tell him
right
Adam Curry: now, he's on feed
burner. It will only be a few
weeks before you know Google
turns Google owns it. They can
turn it off at any minute.
John C Dvorak: I'll tell I'll
talk to him about moving it.
Yes,
Adam Curry: we have to. We have
to move it. It's ridiculous.
Feed burner. I actually got a
call back from, you know, before
we get into thanking some of our
executive and Associate
Executive producers, I had the
ex Disney guy call me back about
our about our cable idea. He
likes it. He likes it a lot,
actually. And I said, you want
to be CEO, and let me see, did
he text me after that?
John C Dvorak: He ghosted you
after that? No, he didn't.
Adam Curry: Actually, he's no,
he said that he was going to,
let me tell you what he was
going to reach out to. He was
going to reach out to some
people for us. Now he had some
he, first of all, he's working
at some FinTech company. So I'm
sure he'd be happy to to get
back into something sexy. He
says he knows. Who does he know
here? Friend of mine in LA was
number two at Hulu, then ran HBO
Max. I'll ask him. And I know a
strategy guy at NBC who was
really involved in peacock. So
he's gonna, you know, we got
real people on it, man,
John C Dvorak: that's real
people. That's,
Adam Curry: that's some real
people. Yeah, I met, but I said,
I said to him, I said, Dude, you
need to run this. You'd be
great. Because, you know, Adam
and John are not going to do
anything. We're
Unknown: not going to run
anything.
Adam Curry: In the meantime, we
are still value for value, and
we love it to
John C Dvorak: do anything. We
didn't do a lot of work. We do
some we thought we were big
thinkers. Well,
Adam Curry: just look at the
landscape paramount. Television
Studios shutting down. So, I
mean, they're shutting down. You
know, are you? Did we talk about
to be? You know what to be is.
Do you have to?
John C Dvorak: I know what to be
is, but we didn't talk about it.
No.
Adam Curry: So Tubi is they have
the largest catalog of old
movies and TV shows, old, old
stuff, you know, Hogan's Heroes
level, because it's very cheap
for them to have. They're
completely ad based. Word on the
street is they were going to
report 50% drop in advertising,
five, zero. And there's a this
is your recession coming. And
the funniest news of all was
crooked media. These are the
guys who do pod save America.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And why?
Why would you call yourself
crooked media.
Adam Curry: You know, who cares?
John C Dvorak: It's ironic,
maybe. Or it's like, hahaha,
it's funny. So
Adam Curry: they have, I think
they have 70 or 80 people
working on these shows. I mean,
I know pod save America, pod
save the UK, uh, love it, or
leave it. Never heard that one,
and they now signed with the
Writers Guild of America East.
Yeah, and listen to this.
Starting salary, $80,000.49 days
paid time off. You imagine that?
Wouldn't that be nice? 49
John C Dvorak: days paid time
off is like. What are these?
This is a European idea, even
only the French. They don't even
have 45 the French take the rich
French take off on Bastille Day,
and then they take off the
entire month of August.
Everybody takes but that's only
45 days,
Adam Curry: if, um, maternity
leave, 20 weeks, 20 weeks,
John C Dvorak: and it has to be
paid for. Yes,
Adam Curry: they're gonna go
they're gonna go out of
business. That's impossible to
do in podcasting. I just don't
believe that they can
John C Dvorak: make especially
with the staffs that they have,
they have way too many people
producing these shows. They got
writers and producers and
engineers, and they'll pay $955
Adam Curry: a month towards
health insurance, which is low
minimum, 13 weeks of severance,
guaranteed, 12 hour minimum rest
time between end of work and
Next day start cell phone
stipend, commuting
reimbursement. Yes. Hello, hi.
We want to join crooked media.
Instead. We don't really want to
do that. We love what we do, and
we love our trucks, and we love
our artists. That's one of the
primary time and talent measures
that we look at of people
supporting the show. We have
many professional artists. Many
of them are, I think all of them
are Dutch masters. You always
think about all the AI art, and
I realize that, you know, AI
creates, it can create art. But
I'd like someone to type into
the prompt create a funny image
based on this exchange from the
show. See, that is what is
missing from Ai. It can't make
up funny stuff yet. No, please.
You know how many people send me
end of show mixes. Listen to
this great song I made, and I
look at him like, Okay, you
listen. Like, right away. It's a
professional sounding song. It's
AI. It's not funny, if it's not
a cover, if it's not a parody,
it's almost never funny. It's
just a song. And you fed it some
lyrics, and you hear the auto
tune. It's like, Yeah, okay.
It's never a hit. It's never a
hit yet. Well, when it gets to
that point, I had to love
nothing more to not have to show
up, John, I'm telling you, but I
just don't believe it's true. I
don't think that AI understand
your position, and do you think
that it AI can't do what we do
yet. Yeah, exactly.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'd say
1000 years from now. Okay,
Adam Curry: we want to thank sir
Shug, aka faux Diddley, for
bringing us the artwork for
Episode 1686, we titled that
publical Something our dear
friend, Dr Tedros said it was, I
think, a veterinarian. And this
was kamalas cackle. Now with
more PBA, it's the candy that
all the kids are crazy about.
Camels cackle. It was good. It
was a typical no agenda packet
shot 333, calorie. Calories. It
had it all in there. And I don't
know if I don't think this was
AI, it looks like Photoshop to
me. I can see the anomalies in
the cackle. So actual work was
done, which we do always
appreciate. Let's take a look at
some of the other artwork that
was submitted. We did talk for a
second about Darren O'Neill's no
agenda airport. Everybody be
nice again. Stop with the Biden
and the and the Kamala heads.
We're not going to choose it,
especially
John C Dvorak: when it doesn't
even look like them. I like
Adam Curry: sloth fever, but we
didn't really talk about sloth
fever. Yeah, we did. I didn't
like it. No, we didn't talk
about sloth fever on the show.
That was uh Ness works. God, no,
we
John C Dvorak: did. We did
briefly, very briefly, we
mentioned it. It was a very
short bit,
Adam Curry: you know, and you
get like, Matthew dropco
Uploading a whole bunch of
waltz, interviewing Harris. No,
no. It's just, it's just slick
art because AI did it. But this
is no comedy to it. There's no
comedy. This is, this is the
problem and, and I think that
that a lot of artists, good
artists, become gun shy, like,
oh, well, I could never create
something that good looking. We
put poop looking art up there.
If it's funny, it doesn't have
to be perfectly slickly done.
Back me up here.
John C Dvorak: I totally agree
with it. We don't. If it's a
sketch done by hand that is
funny, yeah, and has some it has
dimensionality, which is my
thing, which is you got to have
some references to 33 and all
the other stuff that goes on on
the show in general. ITM Yeah,
then we're good to go with it.
But yeah, the slick stuff is all
AI created, but it's, it's we
said it before. It's soulless,
mostly, and
Adam Curry: that's why Darren
O'Neill often wins with AI
because Darren understands
comedy. He understands what's
funny well.
John C Dvorak: Also we asked
Darren for to show us his
prompts on one of the art pieces
he did. He sent us an email
showing every prompt he did,
every piece that came out of it
and went on and on, he spends as
much time prompt prompting the
AI art generator to produce what
he wants than if he did it by
hand, which
Adam Curry: actually means that
we should have a lot more really
good art, because we have a lot
of funny producers out there who
can't do art at all, but No,
instead, It's like Kamala eating
an ice cream cone. Okay,
Unknown: no.
Adam Curry: And this and dropco.
Dropco is funny. He has humor,
and then he brings us this. I
mean, I love dropco. He's won
recently, but yeah, Tim Rogers
Neighborhood, no, no. It's just
not funny. It's hard. Humor is
hard,
Unknown: very hard
Adam Curry: and and right now I
can tell you, I see nothing.
John C Dvorak: I see nothing,
correct.
Adam Curry: But we thank you
very much, foe diddly, sir Shug,
for your contribution, your
wonderful value that you have
provided us. You can provide
value in time, talent and
treasure. If you're confused
about the concept, value number
four, value, dot info, it's
pretty good. Write up. Been
doing this for a long, long
time, so long in fact, that
other people think they've come
up with it. Yeah. It's amazing
how often I hear that, yeah,
man, it's a Bitcoin thing. No,
no, it's not. It's from this
show. And it did. I went back
and listened to some of our
early shows, and I think I did
know that we, we came up with a
model very early on of just send
us whatever it's worth to you.
That's how we positioned it.
You're listening to the show.
You're getting some value out of
it. If you like more of it, then
provide that value back. That's
how simple it is. But it was, in
fact, around Episode 160 I think
that I had read Atlas Shrugged.
Took a month and
John C Dvorak: read Atlas,
shrugged less shrug, and that's
where it
Adam Curry: and that's where the
value for value came from, from
something in that book. So if
anything, I and Rand gets some
credit, but the model itself and
the feedback loop of thanking
people for the for producing the
show, not calling you listeners
or fans, insulting you with that
instead calling you producers,
which you really are. I mean,
here's an example. Rob the
constitutional lawyer. He sent
me a note. He said he loved, he
loved your EULA. Idea of having
a minor sign a EULA, and he
added to it, I'll read it for
the day. Jcds legal hack with
minors is gold in most
jurisdictions. It's even better
than he knows. Miners can indeed
sign contracts, but only the
miners can enforce them. So if
Disney were to try to enforce a
EULA signed by a miner, the
miner can walk away. But if
Disney were to breach a
provision in the EULA, the miner
can pounce with both feet. In
other words, the contract isn't
void, per se, but voidable at
the miner's sole option. How
about that? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: learn something
new every day. That's a good
one. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. Production.
Producers. We have more than we
have more than crooked media.
Make
John C Dvorak: sure your kids
sign those EULAs. That's right.
Adam Curry: We have more
producers than crooked media,
but don't you dare get pregnant
before
John C Dvorak: paramount.
Adam Curry: Don't you doubt you
dare get pregnant because you're
not getting 20 weeks paid off at
all. And now we'd like to thank
our executive and Associate
Executive producers. Now these
are the producers who come in
and really save the day. In
fact, many of them were at the
Albany meetup. Otherwise, sad
puppy would have been crawling
all over this thing today.
John C Dvorak: Well, the sad
puppy should have been out
anyway, but the meetup did save
the day. But I will. I want to
compliment Steve, the
recalcitrant night. He organized
it. Who organizes? He does all
the meetups over on the East
Bay, and he did a tremendous
job. And then I was talking to
Mimi about it, because we had
about, oh, at least 40 people,
maybe more, considering the last
time we did the mallard Club was
like 12 people, nobody showed
up. Was very low. And so then I
noticed that Mimi read his his
plea, and he used the guilt
sales pitch. Oh, really, good
job. What do you do to guilt
everybody? He didn't know. I
don't think he knew what he was
up to. He was just doing it
naturally. He was he does a
great job. I like this guy. And
so he guilted everyone, saying
John, and nobody showed up last
time, and Adams getting hundreds
of people, and we love John, and
everyone looks like they hate
him. He goes, and I mean, wow.
And I'm thinking, and so that we
had a big crowd. And not only
that, but they were generous.
This was not a minor amount of
money. This is
Adam Curry: probably the one of
the, the most
John C Dvorak: per head, I
think, is probably the highest
we've ever done, one of the most
generous meetups in a while. So
that was a big deal, the way it
works. Go ahead. Well, I'm just
saying that. I just wanted to
thank Steven. I hope you got his
ball of Pinot Noir out of this.
There's that the guy didn't
forget to give it to him.
Adam Curry: So the way it works
is, if you donate $200 to an
episode of the show or above,
you become an Associate
Executive Producer, it's a real
credit. You can use this
anywhere show business. Credits
are recognized. You can use it
anywhere you want, but it will
be accepted anywhere, including
imdb.com, if you don't have an a
production account, that you can
open one up and go ahead and go
search for no agenda, see how
many executive and Associate
Executive Producers are. There
are also, we'll read your notes,
$300 or above. We'll read your
note, and you are an executive
producer, and that at the top of
the list, we have Ben nidus from
San Francisco, who came in with
$622 equivalent, I believe he
gave you gold and silver. He
had,
John C Dvorak: well, a little
piece of gold, but it was a
chunk. He bought this from a
Metal Exchange. And. A big
piece, a giant piece
Adam Curry: of silver. Nice,
five ounces.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was a big
chunk of silver. And so you have
to, I don't know what we're
gonna do. How are we gonna get
that into the bank? But I have
it.
Adam Curry: What? The bank won't
accept silver. What is this
nonsense? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's California.
They don't accept, they will
accept gold. I think they have a
little scale there. You can drop
it off.
Adam Curry: Well, he gave us
five grams of gold and five
ounces of silver to make him the
Duke of San Francisco and and I
appreciate that. I often have to
correct people about the value
for value model. And if you use
PayPal stripe, you abuse voter
book, no people send us check.
Was it 40% checks? Because that
high? Is that too high?
John C Dvorak: That's way too
high. Oh,
Adam Curry: I thought it was up
there.
John C Dvorak: No, it's, well, I
don't do the calculation in my
head, and I will tell you that
it is probably, it's close to
3030,
Adam Curry: 25, to 30% and it's,
it's almost no fee, 15 cents.
Processing for us. You can send
them directly from your bank
account in the US, of course,
and it's appreciated. I mean,
some of these processing fees
are getting pretty high.
John C Dvorak: That's four or
five, six bucks. Thanks. Biden,
no processing fees with a silver
ingot No.
Adam Curry: All right, so Ben,
you will be up to Duke of San
Francisco. Thank you, sir.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, in fact, I
he sent me a note about that
because I got confused who gave
me the silver, and I was gonna
almost credit Steve with it. Oh
no. Oh no, Steve did give me a
book, though, sir. Etima quive
quivel, quivi. Quivel quievi,
queve eterna Laredo, Texas,
eternas quievi in Laredo, he's
350 uh, Why does nobody talk
about American Airlines and
their relationship to an
immigration surge? We've talked
about it a lot, a lot. Not
against it, but there's a
distinction in nationalities
that benefit from the shadow
program versus people who travel
with infants at times by foot
train horrific conditions. If we
need to expand the labor force,
let's put it all on the table.
Mexico's new president speaks
English fluently. Can we work
together toward a future that
actually makes sense. Why does
our neighbor and trade partner
continue to have such a large
wealth gap? 3050 bucks. Thank
you very much for that donation
and message.
Adam Curry: Dr Don marata
Cupertino, California, came to
the meetup. 333, dot 69 Dame
Audra and I love giving and
receiving, value for value this.
That's all that it is, giving,
receiving. Thank you. Beautiful
beautiful note, beautiful
donation. Appreciate it.
John C Dvorak: I will mention
that a lot of people came to the
meetup and they either handed
off some money, they didn't have
the envelope with the note or
anything, so they're not going
to get any credit because I
didn't, couldn't keep track of
who they were, but everybody
else is on the spreadsheet. So I
want to thank everybody for
helping us out there in that
meetup. That was a good meetup,
uh. TK, Gustafson in Wasilla,
Alaska, 333. 33 greetings,
gents, uh. TK, Gustafson.
Gustafson. Gustafson. Gustav.
Gustafson, I've hit every show
since the first Rogan and
thought it was time to bring my
douchebaggery to an end. I think
we can deduce him.
Unknown: You've been deduced
John C Dvorak: for the last
month or so, y'all been
tiptoeing around the name I
think you've been looking for
with Harris, and I just can't
believe it hasn't come out yet.
I do believe the name you're
looking for is kakala. I hope
this helps. Please deduce me,
which we just did, and it's not
too much trouble. Uh, hassle.
Bugs, I like the bugs jingle and
Reverend Al of your choosing and
a rubbilizer for jingles.
Keeping an eye on those pesky
Ruskies with Sarah.
Adam Curry: TK, yeah. TK, oh,
wait, that's not the right one.
Unknown: Why is that? Hmm, bugs,
maybe
John C Dvorak: he wants ants.
Adam Curry: No, he wants bugs.
But no, that's not it. Oh, here
it is. I got it there. Oh, I
feel better
Unknown: now. R E, s, p, i, C,
T, India. Hang out. Mike
standby, 3333 33 barbaliser,
out.
Adam Curry: All right. Michael
polling, San Francisco, Cal.
California, 333, dot, 33 from
the Albany meetup. Albany
meetup, I don't see any note.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
he had a note. It's just
probably in an envelope. Okay,
well, thank
Adam Curry: you very much.
Appreciate it. I'm
John C Dvorak: guessing he has a
note you can send in a future
date. Can in El Sobrante,
California, three, three, 3.33.
They're John and Adam, my
smoking hot wife, Jamie, and I
started listening to no agenda
show after hearing Adam's first
appearance on the Rogan probably
get some you have some late
bloomers. Yes, we do. From the
old Rogan podcast from the
Austin studio. The Albany meetup
was my first ever, and it was
great. Yeah, a fine group of
friendly, outgoing and
intelligent listeners. I am
looking forward to the next no
jingles. Next one's going to be
at a restaurant so we can bring
in some people that have kids.
They've moaned about this being
at a bar. So he's going to set
it up at a restaurant so we can
see violet and see how she's
grown, the trap baby from a
couple years back.
Adam Curry: So I was about to
put Dr Don and Dame Audra
together as executive producer,
because of the 333 dot 69 but
what do we see here? Dame Audra
comes in with her own donation
of $300.33 and says, Keep it up,
gents also from the Albany
meetup. So together, they came
in as top, top donors. Thank you
so much. It's beautiful.
John C Dvorak: Lawrence wolf in
Oakland 300 he actually wrote a
note. He did the note thing. And
I have it, and you can tell it's
a real because it's
Adam Curry: paper on paper. Uh,
it's a little long.
John C Dvorak: It's too long, so
I'm going to just read the first
paragraph. I wish to thank you
for your amygdala shrinking.
Media deconstruction. I have
been listening to the best
podcast in the Universe since
early 2023 after listening to
Adam once again on the Joe Rogan
podcast, another late bloomer.
This is, this is a classic brand
of numbers. Thing
Adam Curry: today is now, I wish
I will. I will add his second
paragraph. All I can say is, I
wish I had known about you guys
during the scam demic as it was,
I had to survive on Twitter,
verse ramblings, and was able to
get through it without the jab.
It would have been better with
you and the connection that you
get from the meetups. Well,
we're going through all kinds of
dystopia right now. In fact, he
wants to be knighted today as
Sir Lawrence of dystopia, and
wants Malbec and Mallow Mars at
the round table. And also wants
a biscuit for his birthday. They
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday, which he celebrated a
day after John's 38th wedding
anniversary. He turned 20 a day
after they were wed so he's 58
then I guess thanks again. May
you never find an exit strategy.
Adios, mofos, Lawrence F Wolf,
kilo, Oscar six, Echo, Juliet,
Echo, well. 7373 kilo, five,
alpha, Charlie. Charlie,
John C Dvorak: uh, okay. I think
onward to Sir
Adam Curry: Robert Montoya,
Black Knight of Pleasant Hill,
in Pleasant Hill, California,
from the Albany meetup, $300
Thank you, Sir Robert.
John C Dvorak: Uh, onward to Ron
Norin in Holland, in the town.
It looks like Luton.
Adam Curry: Well, it's sir Ron
Norton. Ron in floating, in
floating. I'll read it so you
can do the next one. A small
donation, returning some
treasure. After all the value
received. Keep up the great
work, boys, that's how it works.
Whatever, whatever you get out
of the show, no matter what the
value is, to send it back, we
can't determine your size of
your pocketbook. In this case,
$200 is perfect for Sir Ron
Norton. And he says, No jingles,
no karma. Warm regard, sir Ron
Norton. And thank you very much.
John C Dvorak: Linda lupatkin,
there she is, Lakewood,
Colorado. That's why he's having
me read it, because I seem to be
the one that gets this every
time, and because you know why
she asked for jobs karma every
time. And then she mentions your
premium content is the best,
because all the contents
premium, speaking of premium
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's go for
Adam Curry: jobs. And Sir seven
up partridge and Dame wind
chimes partridge. We're also at
the Albany meetup, and they
kicked in $200 Associate
Executive producers for them.
Thank you. Thank you both.
John C Dvorak: And so John
Siebert in Auburn came down from
Auburn to go to the Albany
meetup, and he came in with 200
bucks too. Very nice. Craig,
thanks for the best podcast in
university rights.
Adam Curry: Craig Clifford
closes us out as the final
associate. Executive producer
from Uxbridge, Ontario, $200
Canadian bucks, I don't know.
Doesn't matter. We count them
equal, because we're not a holes
Adam and John Craig Clifford
from communist Canada. Here,
it's been some time since my
last donation on August the
18th. It'll be my 63rd trip
around the sun. This donation is
a switcheroo to credit our
beloved grand sir grandson, Remy
Clifford. Remy Remy. What do you
think? Remy Remy Remy Remy
Clifford. Let me just switch a
rue that Remy Clifford, who will
be 10 months old. Remy won't
care how I pronounce it. 10
months old on the 23rd of
August, stardom, early on his
way to knighthood. Yes, we think
this is good for all kids. Also,
I've been neglecting to claim my
knighthood, dating back to show
1500 he sent his accounting.
Could I please be titled sir
Craig, Knight of the rolling
hills of Uxbridge? Of course, at
the round table, a bottle of
2019 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon.
Is that any good? The Caymus?
Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it would be
better. Yeah, it is good. But
I'd say the 2012 and 2013 would
be better, by the way, this I
Adam Curry: didn't clip it, but
ABC this weekend did a whole
special on wine country of
America and highlighted the
Texas Hill Country right here,
right in the back backyard, as
one of the up and coming
fantastic wine regions of
America. Yeah, you laugh. All
you want a rib steak cooked
medium rare as well, and garlic
mashed potatoes. Thank you for
your courage. If you could
please play pigs in human
clothing, that'd be great. Kind
Regards from Craig, fear is
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Those are the facts
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to them.
You pigs in human
Adam Curry: clothing. Ah, their
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Unknown: formula is this, we go
out, we hit people in the mouth.
You
Adam Curry: I wanted to do a
little presentation, because
I've seen this guy before. Cali
means he was, do you remember
when RFK Jr announced his
horrible vice president pick the
socialite? Oh, right, the woman
and this guy. And I think I
played clips from then, Callie
means, and he used to be a
lobbyist in in DC. And his
sister, I forget what her name
is. She was a doctor. I think
she was a surgeon. And she quit
the medical industry in disgust,
in true disgust over basically
she was being educated to
diagnose, prescribe, that was
it, and all the things that she
was told to do to people she
might have been an ear, nose,
throat surgeon, she said they
really didn't help anybody. And
the two of them got together,
and they actually wrote a book
about the food industry and how
they are that work together with
the healthcare industry, and
they were on Tucker show. And I
have to say, Tucker has done a
good job of emulating Rogan.
He's got the big the big table.
He's got the same mics, you
know, he's got one person on
this one side, one person on the
other side. He has a different
style. What do you think of
Tucker as his his style.
John C Dvorak: Well, Tucker has
an aghast style.
Unknown: Aghast,
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's
aghast. A, G, H, A, S, T, I
think is, I
Adam Curry: think it's genuine.
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying
it's not genuine. I'm just
saying he's aghast. And it's and
to the point where it's almost a
parody of itself. He's, you
know, the mouth is slightly
open. It's like, I can't believe
what I'm hearing, as opposed
Rogan's a little more
aggressive. He's more like a
like a UFC fighter. He's
actually a different style of
interviewer, to say the least.
And he's not aghast, please,
necessarily. They're
Adam Curry: both
conversationalists more than
interviewers. I wanted to click.
He had Peter Thiel on impossible
to clip. I'll do Peter Thiel.
John C Dvorak: No, Peter Thiel
is impossible to clip. I saw
that He's worse than musk. It
must be some milieu. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's the difficult
talk. It's a difficult talking
California tech people. Let me
steel man, that for you. Steel
man, what is this? When did this
become a thing? Let me steel
man, that for you?
John C Dvorak: No, it's another
new one. It's quite irritating.
Oh, you mean, you were all
irritating.
Adam Curry: So Peter, how much
you've been spying on everybody
with your Palantir outfit. So
what was most interesting and
is, oh, now I'm starting to
sound like him is Callie's
experience as a lobbyist in
Washington, DC, and he starts
off with a history of food,
which I guess, if I think about
it, yeah, I could have known,
but no one has ever said it
quite this. Clearly, I wanted
Unknown: to be contributing to
politics from an early age, and
went to Stanford to go back into
politics, studied economics,
political science, went straight
back to campaigns after school.
What I learned quickly is that
in campaigns over you work for
the biggest spenders in DC, and
I found myself across the desks
from food industry in the farm
industry, the farm industry
spends five times more in DC
than the oil industry, by far
the biggest spender bipartisan.
You're working for Pharma. But
starting with food, I learned
early on the food industry and
the processed food industry was
created by the cigarette
industry. And I think this is
very telling. It's something I
learned. So in the 1990s the two
largest food companies in the
world were RJ Reynolds and
Philip Morris. What happened is,
when the surgeons enter way too
late in the 1980s said
cigarettes were maybe
problematic. These were some of
the largest companies in the
world with the largest cash
piles of any company in the
world. So they, what they did is
they used their cash piles to
buy food companies. You know, we
think about the 80s as the Wall
Street era, M and A. You know, a
lot of deals, the two biggest M
and A deals up until 1990 in
world history were cigarette
companies buying food companies.
So you had, in the 90s, these
two cigarette companies, very
strategically, do two things.
They shifted their 1000s of
scientists who were experts at
making cigarettes addictive to
the food department. So we had
the rise of ultra processed
food, where our food now it's a
science experiment.
Adam Curry: I of course it makes
sense. RJR, Nabisco, I never
realized that that it was
actually the cigarette guys who
went, Oh, okay, we can't do
that. We'll do this. Have you
ever thought about it that way?
John C Dvorak: No, and I
wouldn't think about it that way
after listening to this guy
blather on, these companies
don't operate that way. It makes
it sound like a giant
conspiracy. It's not when RJR
button to say they own Nabisco
that they all of a sudden change
the way Shredded Wheat is
manufactured because of some
tobacco idea. I'm not buying
this guy. I don't like him. I
don't like the way he talks. I
don't like his patter.
Adam Curry: I'm hearing a buzz
in the microphone at Tucker's
not here, Tucker's place. Well,
now, now I'm after that
outburst. I'm apprehensive to
play anymore. I don't think I
want to.
John C Dvorak: Well, the problem
is, I'm hearing a guy who is,
like, seeing, you know, ghosts
in the closet kind of thing.
Adam Curry: Well, he was there.
He was a lobbyist, yeah. Well,
I'm sure that
John C Dvorak: the food industry
does have a lot of lobbyists and
and they're probably not doing
us any favors, generally
speaking, but it's not as though
this idea of processed food just
came along because of tobacco
companies,
Adam Curry: no, but they started
lobbying big with their with
their powerful cash lobby.
John C Dvorak: And then the
Unknown: second thing they did
is they shifted their lobbying.
So the cigarette industry, of
course, was the biggest, you
know, lobbying spenders, and
very had a good playbook. They
shifted their playbook on
lobbying and rigging
institutions of trust to food.
So they created the food
pyramid. So the cigarette
industry, through the food and
companies they bought, paid off
the FDA, the USDA Harvard to
create reports saying sugars and
cos obesity, and they lobbied
for the food pyramid in the
1990s we all remember, which
said, you know, animal based
fats or bad carbs are good.
Remember, carbs and sugar were
basically the base of the
pyramid. So the American diet
because of that, because we
trust our medical institutions
would stay in. Oh, we shifted
our diet significantly to ultra
processed food. It was very
intentional. The food pyramid
that was a ultra processed food
marketing document that carbs
were fine, Sugar was fine, and
that shifted. And you look at
dietary patterns today, kids, a
child diet is 70% Ultra
processed food. Now, what does
that mean? Those are literally
foods invented by the cigarette
industry to addict kids. You
know, obviously we've got sugar,
but there's 1000s of different
ingredients and science
concoctions that scientists work
in a lab to make it more
palatable, to make it more
addictive. No, you
Adam Curry: don't believe that,
so I might as well stop.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't. And
the food pyramid, which first
appeared in 1972 came out of
Scandinavia, had these same
issues with the carbs being too,
too high. Of course, in
Scandinavia probably need more
carbs. No, I'm not. No, I don't
think they're. They're trying to
make food more addictive. You
don't? I think there's, I think
there are issues with sugar,
there's issue with with there's
issues with the way wheats
processed and aged. There's all
kinds of issues. But he makes it
sound like it's some sort of a,
you know, all because of to the
tobacco industry is the only
people behind it all some sort
of a scheme, because they knew
how to addict people to
cigarettes. They figured they
can do the same thing with food.
This has been going on a lot
longer than they when they start
buying up food companies. This
did not start in 1990
Adam Curry: I'll agree with you
on that. Well, I'll just, I'll
just skip to the last bit. Then
the overall point, and that's
why he's there with his sister,
is that you often see pharma and
food, and this is what we see on
television, pharma and food
lobbying together. And that's
why, if you look at television,
you get fast food, fast food,
fast food, diabetes drug,
diabetes drug, ozempic heart
drug. I mean, I think there's
something to it that there that
this is what he calls the he has
a name for it, the criminal
Devil's bargain. Yeah, the
criminal Devil's bargain is what
he calls it, is that it's highly
tied
Unknown: to the healthcare
industry. And as Casey said, the
fastest growing industry in
America right now isn't AI. It's
not tech, it's healthcare. It's
the largest and fastest growing
industry, and just as a
statement of economic fact, the
best thing for that industry is
a child getting sick. When a
child gets sick, or any American
gets sick with a chronic
condition, with diabetes,
obesity, kidney disease, heart
disease, whatever, they go on a
lifetime medication, they go on
the Metformin, they go on the
statin, they have lifetime
treatments, and they keep
racking up more comorbidities.
If you're diabetic, you have an
average of four other
comorbidities. So you keep
racking up, but you don't die.
You just suffer. You inevitably
get infertility, depression, you
start racking them up. So that's
very good for the medical system
to have these chronic conditions
that need to be managed. Just
from a pure economic standpoint,
that's how the system's set up.
The criminal part, the devil's
bargain, is that the healthcare
system you'd expect to be
speaking out about why we're
getting so sick. They're silent
enough, they're actually
complicit. Working for Coke, I
helped steer money to the
American Coca Cola. Yeah,
working for Coca Cola, they
actually pay money to the
American Diabetes Association.
Anyway. I
Adam Curry: think it's just good
to hear it from time to time,
we're not eating real food, you
and I don't have that issue. We
eat good food. A lot of people
don't,
John C Dvorak: and most people
don't,
Adam Curry: particularly in
America, although I've seen it,
John C Dvorak: but I would say
again, what I brought up earlier
that the physician, it was it
felony to accept money, a direct
payments for prescribing drugs.
Yes, I think that would have a
bigger impact than when he's,
you know, him. And is this a
conspiracy kind of a thing that?
Well, of course, and he brought
tobacco in as you know, as the
tobacco guys are just these evil
villains that are finding ways
to addict people to poison the
food supply in this country is
toxic. There's no question about
it. You go
Adam Curry: more seed oils,
sludge.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right,
that's all. That's all well,
then let's play as something a
little lighter. I've got light
to lighten things up. I'm
Adam Curry: gonna pull it no
matter what you know, I'm gonna
do that to you. Now this
John C Dvorak: is going to be a
little discussion on this NPR.
So important to discuss brat
summer.
Adam Curry: I thought that
already came and went. Brat
John C Dvorak: summer is
morphing into something new. Oh,
brat summer
Unknown: this viral trend that
took its name from the latest
Charlie XCX album titled brat.
But as summer starts to wind
down, we're also seeing a new
trend start to emerge on social
media here to tell us about it
is. Is USA Today. Health and
wellness reporter Charles
trepone, wait, okay, stop
John C Dvorak: the clip. This
Adam Curry: isn't just a Kamala
commercial.
John C Dvorak: No, no. You think
it would be. I mean, I have
undertones in the commercial by
anti Trump stuff, but this is
the health and wellness reporter
for USA Today. Okay? And he's
talking about breath. This is a
this is National Public Radio,
their treasure with the most
inane conversation. I'm going to
say before you do the most inane
stupid conversation, plugging
this record and and talking
about Brad summer that nobody
cares about except some kids out
and on tick tock. I found this
to be the most offensive series.
This is two parter. It's
offensive to me. You're
Adam Curry: gonna offend us with
this offensive nonsense. I think
John C Dvorak: people should be
aware that this is this sort of
thing. Is what the national
public treasure is plays on the
weekends.
Unknown: Charles, welcome to all
things considered, hi. Thank
you so much for having me worth
it already.
Adam Curry: What was that?
John C Dvorak: Oh, I did sweeten
it a bit. Oh, okay, I'll
Unknown: shut up. Charles
trepone, Charles, welcome to all
things considered, hi. Thank
you so much for having me.
Thank you
for being here. And First things
first, for anyone who missed
brat summer, can you just tell
us what was this all about?
So having a brat summer
basically means embracing chaos,
embracing your messy side,
embracing your wild side. It's
about clubbing, partying. When
Charlie XCX sort of described
what a brat means to her. She
said that it can include luxury.
It can include trashiness.
There's no one right way to be a
brat, as long as you're sort of
living your life and you just
don't care what other people
think. Okay,
so this meme has gotten a lot of
mileage this summer, but we're
even starting to see kind of a
new trend. Challenge, brat
summers throne. Can you tell us
about what this thing demure
fall is all about? Yes.
So in response to brat, there is
a new trend afoot called being
demure. People online are
declaring it demure
fall. So pretty, pretty
different vibes.
Yes, completely different vibes.
It's brother. I'd say demure is
almost embracing like a quiet
confidence. It's going through
your life with calmness, with
gentility, with consideration
for others. It's not making
waves. It's not drawing
attention to yourself, and in a
way that not drawing attention
to yourself is the power and
being demure. A lot of it is
sort of the very basics of just
living your day to day life. But
it casts it in a more graceful,
kind of elegant mindset and
attitude, basically.
Oh,
Adam Curry: so I know about
this. You know, we still have
the millennial from Brooklyn
staying with us. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: okay, why don't
you give us a little
enlightenment here? Because I
found this to be for one thing,
this extremely, maybe not gay
health and wellness reporter
from USA Today to be like, What?
What has this got to do with
anything, especially your job?
But he's, I guess, a social I
don't know. No,
Adam Curry: that's a big part of
it. This is the the the American
communism has resulted in a
complete withdrawal from
society. In other words, we're
just going to all get blue
collar jobs, work at bars, work
in restaurants, live on tips. Go
Trump, no tax on Oh, go Kamala,
no tax. What doesn't matter.
We're not going to vote. We're
only going to take care of our
own community. We barter, we
live a quiet life, we smoke
weed, we just chill. And yes,
I'm telling you, and have and we
have no actual care about our
future. They have completely
withdraw. Yes, that is the brat
summer. Yes, that is exactly
what it is. It is our communism
is a little different because it
has seed oils, and we just don't
care. That's what it's become.
They are. We don't, we don't
look at Twitter anymore. We
don't, you know, we do Doom
scroll on tick tock for the
last, for the dogs, for the
dancing, completely withdrawn
from, uh, economic future,
political future. Don't want to
have kids. That's, that's what,
I think this is an accurate
report.
John C Dvorak: You're making me
sick.
Unknown: So these are both kind
of delightful in very opposite
ways. Right? Like Brad is, yes,
childish and immature, demure is
poised and grown up, but both of
these memes are sort of taking
up space in the online hive
mind. What do you make of that,
even though they're both very
opposite, I think they're kind
of reacting to the same sort of
theme. Feeling in the culture
that people are experiencing
this year. I think people in
general are just feeling a lot
of chaos. And what's interesting
to me about brat and demure is
that both of them are sort of
different ways of coping or
moving through chaos and
uncertainty. Brat is embracing
it, fully embracing the mess,
embracing the wildness and then
demure. In a way, it's like a
more calming way of moving
through life. It's really sort
of, I think, tuning out the big
noise and just focusing on the
small things.
So this raises an important
question on the spectrum of brat
to demure. Where are you right
now?
Oh, my gosh. I go up and down. I
think I'm ready for demure fall,
but I think you have to go
through a brat era before you
can truly appreciate demure. Oh,
okay,
I love it.
Yes. What about you? Adrian,
oh, man.
I mean, it depends on how much
sleep I've gotten.
Listen eight hours of sleep a
night is very demure.
Well, I think we have our
answer. I've been speaking with
USA Today health and wellness
reporter Charles trepany,
Charles, thanks again.
Thank you,
elitist. Voices of America.
This is NPR,
Adam Curry: but I think I
described it
John C Dvorak: perfectly. Yeah,
you might be right onto
something. It's beyond me.
That's for
Adam Curry: sure. Well, that's
not our producers, that's not
our trolls. Don't think so at
all. Okay, I have a series of
very quick clips, very quick
clips and a clip Blitz, ooh,
well, I don't know if I can do
it is kind of a clip Blitz, but
I won't be able to as too many
as too many clips for me to it's
literally like 10 seconds, 12
seconds, eight seconds, six
seconds, this. This pissed me
off. Because, what? Well, I was
pissed off.
John C Dvorak: You got irked.
Now, I
Adam Curry: was pissed off on
the last show, okay, on the last
show, you played a Ukraine clip,
and they talked about this, you
know, one quarter acre that
Ukraine had, uh, invaded Russia,
and it was 1000
John C Dvorak: meters square
kilometers,
Adam Curry: kilometers. And I
said, I heard him talk about
1000 and you said, No, and I'm
not saying that you weren't
pushing against
John C Dvorak: no use the way I
heard it. You said that they
moved into Russia, 1000
kilometers? Well, 1000
Adam Curry: square kilometers is
400 is 427,000 acres.
John C Dvorak: Okay? So, yes,
but going in 1000 if you went in
1000 and you had 1000 square
that you'd only be in by 1000
kilometers, by one kilometer.
Why? So, the point
Adam Curry: of the clips here is
that they're all full of crap.
So this is five days ago.
Unknown: Tony. How much do we
know about Ukraine's operations
inside Russia? You put it in
that historical context for us,
yesterday, the first foreign
incursion, military incursion,
into Russia since World War Two.
Yes,
I mean, that tells
you the significance of it and
how embarrassing in many ways,
it is for the Kremlin to have to
confront this. And yesterday,
Ukrainian officials met with
President Zelensky, and the
military told him that they had
control of 1000 square
kilometers of Russian territory.
That's about 386 square miles.
So that was Bloomberg. Here's
Deutsche Bella. Ukraine says it
now controls around 1000 square
kilometers of Russian territory.
Prize offensive, the biggest
attack on Russian soil since the
Second World War.
Adam Curry: And now we go to,
John C Dvorak: what was that?
What was that? That was a
misreport. Yeah, it's Deutsche
Bella.
Adam Curry: But now we're going
to go to just two days ago, and
now you hear this. Ukraine's
Unknown: army chief gave this
update when speaking to
President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Since the start of today, troops
have advanced around one mile in
various directions. Okay,
Adam Curry: one mile now went
from 1000 square kilometers to
one mile. Now we go to the BBC
after
Unknown: advancing up to 10
kilometers into korsk, Ukrainian
troops have now posted video
showing them inside the
neighboring Russian region of
Belgorod. Okay, let's
Adam Curry: go to the CBC.
Reports
Unknown: suggest Ukrainian
troops have advanced more than
10 kilometers inside Russian
territory.
Adam Curry: Let's go to France.
24
Unknown: Well, those are the
declarations of the Commander in
Chief, Alexandre sisky, on the
size of the territory currently
under Ukrainian control. So of
course, this is what Kyiv is
saying, that there's 1150 square
meters of territory Russian
territory currently under
Ukrainian. Control.
Adam Curry: And then finally,
today's report,
Unknown: Ukraine says it does
not want to permanently occupy
Russia's Kursk Region after
launching a major offensive into
the territory last week, Ukraine
says its intention is to thwart
Russian attacks on its territory
and to pull Russian military
resources away from the
Ukrainian frontline. Russia's
Defense Ministry's released
footage of what it says are
operations against Ukrainian
forces operating inside the
Kursk Region, close to the
Ukrainian border. Analysts say
Ukrainian troops have advanced
up to 25 kilometers into Russian
territory. Russians displaced by
the fighting are arriving in the
capital Moscow. More than
130,000
people have been, already been
forced from their homes, with
another 60,000 in the process of
leaving on Tuesday.
Adam Curry: So if I mean, no one
has the story straight.
Everybody has different numbers,
different summer, measuring
distance. Some are measuring
area. Okay, they're all full of
crap. But what I think we're
looking at here. But by
John C Dvorak: the we should
back up and mention that we
since day one of this Ukraine,
Russia fiasco, yeah, we have
been saying that these reports
are all boat. We can't trust
anybody saying anything about
anything is the same thing with
the Israel and and Hamas. You
can't believe anybody on either
side. Which takes us right back
to your earlier point, which is
that we don't get to see the
mangled bodies anymore. The
reporting stinks.
Adam Curry: The only thing I
hear out of this final report
that I just played is we have a
demilitarized zone in the
making, and it's being
determined partially by the
press, by the media Russia
taking citizens out, that is
pretty consistent, although,
again, different numbers
everywhere. I think we're
looking at a DMZ, and that means
and they're talking about
bargaining chips, and we're
getting very close to some kind
of negotiation, and now we're
just jockeying for position.
We're calling different areas or
different distances. There's a
demilitarized zone in the making
here. That's my conclusion.
John C Dvorak: Well, it looks
like there, I get the sense that
the Ukrainians are panicking,
feeling that Trump could win,
and they know that once that
happens, there's
Adam Curry: no more money. He
has no more money. I did get an
awesome clip.
John C Dvorak: I do have some
Ukrainian. This is a shorty.
Adam Curry: Is just light
hearted, new word. So Ukraine
apparently has an ombudsman, an
ombudsman. What does the
ombudsman do? What is an
ombudsman?
John C Dvorak: Yes, he is the he
is a person that's usually set
up as a neutral party within a
corporation or a government that
is supposed to be beholding to
nobody that actually hired him.
And he is, he or she is supposed
to be a middle man for
complaints.
Adam Curry: Well, this middleman
for complaints in Ukraine came
out with a report about the
Russians torturing Ukrainians,
and he had an interesting word,
yes.
Unknown: So the the Human Rights
Commissioner here, ombudsman
here in Ukraine, opened an
investigation following this
video, which has been
circulating on social media. It
hasn't been identified yet, but
it is in line of previews. I
Adam Curry: love this new word
authentic.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's not a
word as authenticated as what
we're supposed to be. I know,
but I love identified. I love
it. There's another show title
for us, which
Unknown: has been circulating on
social media. It hasn't been
identified yet, but it is in
line
John C Dvorak: of it's groovy.
We have to look it up to make
sure it's not a word. I
Adam Curry: looked it up.
There's no it's not a word.
There's no word authentic. Well,
natalism also didn't show up.
Let me see. So natalism is a
word. Well, now what was the
other word that didn't it was
another word that didn't show
up. Apparently, uh, publical is
a word somewhere. Wait,
authentic. Oh, no. Wait,
identified. What is this?
Wictionary, Wiktionary, simple
past and past part participle of
authentic, really,
John C Dvorak: that doesn't
sound right to me. Doesn't sound
right to me either,
Adam Curry: to authentic. Let me
see, can you authentic?
Unknown: That's crazy.
John C Dvorak: We're mocking
people for using correct
language. That's great. No, no,
Adam Curry: there is no, there
is no word authentic in the in
the online dictionaries, but
there will be soon identified.
Please use identified in a
sentence. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: All right, okay,
get my Ukraine. Uh, odd report,
Ukraine. It's about this is just
up. It says, odd report. For a
reason,
Unknown: Ukrainian military
forces continue to control
hundreds of square miles of land
in the Russian territory of
Kursk. Well, now it's hundreds
of square miles. That's more
than a week after they launched
an invasion that took Russia by
surprise. Now, few reporters
have gotten right up to the
front lines of the fighting, but
one who's gotten close is Nick
Connolly from the German outlet
DW news. Earlier today, I
reached Conley in Sumy, which is
a city on the Ukrainian side of
the border where Ukraine's
military is staging equipment
for the operation. I asked him
what the scene was like in a
city just 20 miles away from the
front line. So
it's around 6pm local time here
on Saturday evening, and people
are out walking with a
conspicuous number of children.
This is really not something
we're used to seeing in Ukraine
cities so close to the Russian
border. It's a lot more alive
than places like Kharkiv. I
can't really explain it, because
it's a city that constantly gets
hit. Just this morning, there
was an Iskander ballistic
missile hit less than a mile
from where I'm sitting now, in
downtown. And you really
wouldn't tell by seeing all the
people out. We saw a wedding
earlier, people taking pictures
now, people out with coffees,
with drinks. It feels pretty
idyllic. It's a really jarring
kind of feeling. Just two hours
ago, we were close, we were
close to the border, and there
were Russian glide bombs coming
in, which are these kind of
devastating, very cheap weapons
that are kind of half a ton
heavy and can just take houses
apart in a few moments. And here
in SUNY, it kind of seems like
the war is pretty far away, if
you kind of ignore the military
vehicles that you see passing
through pretty much all the
time,
and I can hear some children in
the background there. Also,
it's really weird, because, you
know, you've seen so many
families in Ukraine, for Europe,
anyone who had small children,
especially in Kyiv, which
actually is much safer than
Sunni, where we are now, and
we're less than about 20 miles
direct line to Russian border.
This is a city that gets
attacked with cruise missiles,
with ballistic missiles, with
drones, and yet it seems very
alive. And it is strange. It is
fact that Sumi is a bit less on
the radar, maybe, than Kharkiv.
It has less symbolic importance
for the Russians, so they really
have focused on Kharkiv, which
is not very far away, but it is,
it is, you know, something we
weren't expecting, even though
we're in Ukraine all the
Adam Curry: time. Okay, what was
weird about it? What was odd
about it? Who
John C Dvorak: was strange about
it? Well, his comment was that
it's like as if nothing is going
on, and he's got their kids out
there. They're playing in the
playgrounds. There's no it's not
a war no zone, even though it's
right there,
Adam Curry: by the way, the
minute they start talking about
the 33 square miles or
kilometers, will know it's over.
It's coming. It's coming. So,
yeah, so they're just hanging
out there with the kids and the
playground. Everything's groovy,
John C Dvorak: yeah. And he
found this is a Deutsche Valley
guy, so, you know, that's CIA,
so we, so I just found the
report to be odd, and that's why
I called it this, because and
everyone, the guy himself, the
DW guy, is kind of befuddled,
and so is the reporter that's
taking the story in. So here we
go. So what
Unknown: do you make of this
shift in the mood? I think
people
are really happy to have
something else to talk about, to
have some grounds for optimism.
There is a real sense of kind of
pride that, you know, the
Russians are now having to feel
what war, isn't it? This isn't
just going all in one direction.
There's a hope that maybe
ordinary Russians will put
pressure on their government to
end this war, if they see the
real cost of this war, if it
stops being this kind of
colonial war that Russia can
basically just carry out on
someone else's territory, far
away. But there is also a lot of
worry about if this goes wrong,
if the Ukraine troops there were
to be encircled or to get into
Russian captivity. But for now,
it really reminds us of, kind of
the 30 of the war, that late
summer, autumn of 22 when the
Ukrainians were taking back
territory and really pushing the
Russians back. There's a real
sense about him.
And I'm curious about Russians
who live in the area. I
understand that some Russian
locals to get away from the
fighting have actually crossed
into Ukraine, rather than
fleeing further into Russia. Why
is that?
So we spoke to a mother and son
who were here in swimming
yesterday. They are joint
Russian American citizens us in
the 90s, and got citizenship and
had come back for some family
reasons, and so they were keen
to leave Kursk Region Russia to
get to their family left in the
US. So that was a kind of fairly
unusual case, but there are now
reports coming in more people
trying to come to Ukraine
because they decide that it's
actually worth it, that crossing
the front lines between
Ukrainian Russian troops to get
to Russian territory is just too
unsafe. But for now, the
number's pretty small. Most
people we're seeing coming into
Sumi are Ukrainians from
villages along the border who
are seeing the Russians upping
their aerial bombing campaign
and trying to get away from
Adam Curry: that where's the
war?
John C Dvorak: That's what makes
this, these clips, so odd. Now I
there's something else that's
kind of odd, this Kursk thing,
mainly because I was watching
some documentaries about. World
War Two, and Kursk was the last
place that the Nazis attacked
after they got driven out of
Stalingrad. They got driven out
of Russia and regrouped in
Kursk. To no they regrouped
outside of Kursk, probably in
Ukraine, because which was a
Nazi it was a Nazi state for all
practical purposes. It still is.
And they attacked Russia. They
figured they're going to do a
second attack, and they're going
to attack Kursk, the city, not
the area. The area is called
curse, but it's city itself, and
the Russians got wind of it, and
set up a and booby trapped
everything and and set up a kind
of a ambush, and ambushed the
Germans before they could get
get their plan underway. And
that was actually the moment
when World War Two, really
that's when the Russians took it
over at that point, and it was,
and it involved Kursk, and so I
might think, man, you know, this
is kind of an interesting
coincidence that nobody's
mentioning.
Adam Curry: Well, when I think
of Kursk, I think of that sub
that all those guys died when
they sank. Remember that it was
at
John C Dvorak: the bottom the
Kursk submarine disaster. I
think it was in the year 2000
something like that. Yeah, now
we'll play this last clip, and
that'll be the end of
Unknown: it. Are you seeing any
signs that make you think that
the Ukrainian military is
thinking of moving on or or
potentially giving up some of
this territory? Actually, quite
the opposite. We've
had news in the last few days of
them setting up these military
authorities. So basically, this
kind of administrations to deal
with Russian civilians left
there. We've also seen them
blowing up bridges across some
strategic rivers, which would
allow them to defend the
territory more easily and
prevent the Russians coming back
in. So it seems, I don't think
there's any sense the Ukrainians
want to annex this territory,
like the Russians have done with
bits occupied Ukraine, but they
want to hold on to it for a
while to then trade it for other
territory that Russia has seized
in Ukraine. Hmm,
John C Dvorak: something's up,
yeah. Well, Russians don't seem
to be caring that much about it,
no, which makes it even more
strange.
Adam Curry: The whole thing is
lame. It's lame, really, it's
lame before we go to war torn
Israel, which I'm sure we have
to talk about briefly. I would
just go, like to go to war torn
UK for a moment.
John C Dvorak: I should get more
clips from this. You the UK
thing is completely, it's, it's
like, it's like propaganda wars
in some funny ways. Oh, very
much we have, we have no idea of
what the truth is.
Adam Curry: Some headlines mi
five could scrutinize Tommy
Robinson funding and checks, and
it may extend to Farage. So here
comes the political hit jobs. So
Tommy Robinson, who founded and
left the EDL, but apparently the
EDL is responsible for all of
this and Elon Musk, according to
the Guardian, inciting rioters
in Britain, was just a test run
for Elon Musk, just see what he
plans for America.
John C Dvorak: Oh man, here's
the guardian.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, here's a
BBC hit piece on Farage. Newly
published figures suggest the
leader of reform UK, Nigel
Farage, has the highest earnings
outside parliament of any MP in
the latest register of members
financial interests, Mr. Farage
declared earnings of more than a
million pounds a year over and
above his MP salary. More
details from our political
correspondent Damian
grammaticus,
Unknown: as the MP for Clacton
Nigel, Farage earns an annual
salary of 91,000 pounds a year.
It's now emerged that he is, in
addition, paid more than that
every month by GB news, 97,900 a
month, to be exact, to present
on its TV channel, all MPs have
to declare their outside
earnings. The newly published
register shows Mr. Farage also
earns 4000 pounds a month
writing for The Telegraph
newspaper, and he's been paid
more than 16,000 pounds for
recording short, personalized
video messages individuals can
purchase online. The website
that sells the service says Mr.
Farage is often asked to
reference his political views on
Brexit, immigration and the
Reform Party. His total earnings
outside parliament are almost
one and a quarter million pounds
a year, comfortably, more, it's
thought, than any other MP. Mr.
Farros declares that his extra
parliamentary work takes the
equivalent of around nine work
days a month. Boris Johnson's
government had following a
scandal about second jobs, said
it was in favor of capping both
the amount of time MPs could
spend on outside. Work and the
amount of money they could earn,
but later said restrictions
would be impractical. Labor in
its last manifesto, promised it
would bring in rules to prevent
MPs taking up roles that stopped
them serving their constituents
and the country. Oh, come
Adam Curry: on. After Nigel,
making plans for Nigel over
there is this
John C Dvorak: like peanuts
compared to what our congress
people make on insider trading,
on insider trading and
everything in between, is public
speaking and the rest of it? Oh,
yeah, they're going after him
for some what's he doing,
though? Yeah, we haven't gotten
any clips from about him. He
hasn't spoke at Question time
that I can find. So he did
Adam Curry: one question time.
It was boring and long, and
everyone left, and there was no
oohing and eyeing or booing,
yeah. And then just thought this
was rather interesting. The
Church of England is going to
rebrand. They're rebranding to
drop the word church.
John C Dvorak: They're just
going to call themselves
England.
Adam Curry: The Church of
England looks set to undergo a
rebrand by dropping the word
church in favor of relevant and
modern sounding descriptions
such as community,
John C Dvorak: the community of
England. Yeah, yeah. What it is?
A church. Hello, yeah, no, no,
Adam Curry: we can't have that.
A spokesman for the church
claim, one reason why the word
church appears less often in
descriptions of new worshiping
communities is that these forms
of worship can exist outside
traditional brick and mortar
churches. Oh, okay,
John C Dvorak: so what?
Adam Curry: England has fallen.
They've fallen. It's over with
at least for a couple years,
until we get
John C Dvorak: a big apologist
for religions or churches. But a
church is a church. It looks
like a church, it acts like a
church, and there are services
that are convened within the
church. You think, Why would you
call it what? Why don't you just
call it what it is? What's the
point of this? Is like the 1984
Adam Curry: No, it is 1984 it's
2024 it's 1984 all over again.
You can't do anything in the UK.
You can't annoy anyone on social
media. I, you know, I live
there. I like the Brits.
John C Dvorak: What good is
social media if you can't annoy
people?
Adam Curry: That's the whole
point of social media, I know.
And then we cannot let an
episode go by without the latest
very, very scary temperature
rise,
John C Dvorak: climate change.
Curiously, I got some climate
chips. The chips, climate chips.
Well, here's
Adam Curry: my climate chip.
Spanish beachgoers
Unknown: seeking cool reprieve
from the summer's heat, may have
been surprised when they dipped
their feet in the water on
Friday. All right,
Adam Curry: so the Spanish
beachgoers were surprised when
they dip their toe in the water.
Let's find out why they might
have been surprised.
Unknown: The Mediterranean Sea
hit a new heat record, topping
its highest ever temperature for
the second year running, the
daily median water surface
temperature reached 28.9 degrees
Celsius compared with 28.7
degrees Celsius last year,
Adam Curry: it's two tenths of a
degree warmer, and people were
surprised, oh, oh my, this is so
warm, two tenths of a degree
warmer. Wait
John C Dvorak: a minute, this.
So this report claims that
people can sense two tenths of a
degree to the point where it
becomes a news story. What's
Adam Curry: wrong with you? You
can't sense that you don't you.
You anti climate change
conspiracy theorists. You
Unknown: the daily median water
surface temperature reached 28.9
degrees Celsius compared with
28.7 degrees Celsius last year.
The Record comes on the heels of
a scorching July over large
parts of the basin, and for
experts, the news is concerning.
Overheating of the sea prevents
the air from cooling at night
and encourages heat waves.
Adam Curry: It encourages heat
waves. Hey, hey, hey, hey, heat
climate. This is the ocean
talking. How about a heat wave.
Warmer
Unknown: water also leads to
higher mortality rates among
many fish species. Experts from
the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change, long classified
the Mediterranean as a hotspot
for global warming, they say it
is particularly vulnerable to
rising sea surface temperatures
and faces significant risks due
to climate change. Due
Adam Curry: to climate change.
There it is due to climate
change. Everything is due to
climate change. I think we we
should just keep that. We should
just keep that in we should just
say, Oh, I'm not feeling well
Unknown: due to climate change,
yeah, oh,
John C Dvorak: I have a
headache. Definitely make that a
sub clip.
Unknown: I have a headache due
to climate change, yeah,
Adam Curry: just, we just got to
keep it in there due to climate
change. Oh. Oh no, I missed the
bus due to
Unknown: climate change.
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. Okay, good. I
got a climate change in SoCal
Southern California and the
water crisis,
Unknown: cities and suburbs in
Southern California rely on the
Colorado River for about a third
of their water supplies. Now,
the
biggest user of that water is
set to receive more than a half
billion dollars from the federal
government to use less. Alex
Hager, with member station K
UNC, has more. The Imperial
Irrigation District in Southern
California agreed to leave a
portion of its Colorado River
water in Lake Mead over each of
the next three years. That'll
boost the nation's largest
reservoir, which has been sapped
by decades of steady demand and
dry conditions fueled
by climate change,
the federal government will pay
the farm district with money
from the inflation Reduction
Act. Some opponents of the new
water saving deal say it was
rushed and didn't leave time for
public comment.
They also say sending less water
through the river could hurt
wildlife habitats and air
quality, lower flows could dry
out a nearby lake bed and send
windblown dust towards some
cities
due to climate change,
dust,
Adam Curry: it's gonna get
dusty. Brother, oh man, you
know, and it's still a punchline
for us, but it's really going
one of these days, they're going
to clamp down, and we're all
going to be sad that we only
laughed about it. Yeah. Well,
there's
John C Dvorak: nothing else we
can do but laugh about it.
Here's climate change and
hurricane Debbie, which is funny
name for hurricane in Georgia,
Unknown: a crew is hauling away
a makeshift road block outside
Statesboro, Georgia, a large
pile of dirt heaped on the road
to keep people from crossing a
bridge that flooded in the
storm.
We done this because people have
been running the barricades.
Dink Butler
is the public works director for
Bullock County, about 50 miles
northwest of Savannah and an
hour and a half from the beach.
Heavy rainfall from Tropical
Storm Debbie overflowed. Stream
banks burst through dams and
washed away dirt roads here,
some neighborhoods were stranded
by water, especially
along the rivers, the dead end
roads that go into the river.
Butler
says the county is hauling in
rock to fully rebuild some
roads. We're
addressing the limited access or
the no access locations. We're
prioritizing those for so that
we'll be able to get emergency
services to them if they need it
beyond emergency repairs, the
county has a long recovery
ahead. Bullitt County has around
700 miles of dirt roads, the
most in the state. Butler says,
and the storm washed away a lot
of them. We
probably lost an average of a
foot of dirt across most of
these roads, like many of the
areas hardest hit by tropical
storm, Debbie Bullitt county is
pretty far inland. The path of
the storm has a lot to do with
that. Debbie came from the Gulf
of Mexico across Florida into
South Georgia, rather than
traveling up the Atlantic coast.
But Debbie also caused those
heavy inland impacts because it
moved slowly while dumping a lot
of rain. University of Georgia
meteorologist Marshall Shepherd
says storms like that are
getting more common. We know
that climate change is juicing
precipitating systems in general
due to climate change.
Adam Curry: Juicing climate
change is, hey, I thought we
were gonna get a whole bunch of
hurricanes. Where's the big
hurricane season? Oh, I'm sorry.
Talking about, oh, I'm sorry.
We're only a, we're only at D
for Debbie,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's not
that many. We should be at
Adam Curry: Samantha by now,
according to the earlier
reports, didn't we have reports
about that storms?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there was a
bunch of reports, because they
had one early and they said, Oh,
this will be the worst, because
it goes till November, so we can
catch up. There's plenty of
time.
Adam Curry: Let me see, it was
hurricane. Hurricane. Gotta
John C Dvorak: get the Zelda,
Adam Curry: yes, hurricane,
wasn't it. This old
Unknown: report and now with
back to back to back natural
disasters, Biden is asking
Congress to boost emergency
funding to $16 billion
Adam Curry: I don't know when
that was from. When is that
that's from last year, and we
were supposed to get big
hurricanes. I don't understand.
Okay. Anyway, due to climate
change, you
John C Dvorak: have a part two
to this. Okay.
Unknown: Shepherd says the
intense rainfall fits the
overall trend.
The data has been very clear for
several years now that when it
rains, it rains with greater
intensity, even in just sort of
heavy afternoon thunderstorms,
not just hurricanes, it's
not just more rain. The warming
ocean is also making hurricanes
more powerful. Hurricanes have
historically lost steam as they
move over land, but Shepherd
says that's not as true anymore
as
the. Storms are more juiced, and
as their I think impacts further
inland will be significant.
Officials
are trying to adjust to this new
reality of hurricane impacts
outside typical coastal areas.
Jill Nagel with the Georgia
Department of Transportation,
says the agency learns from each
storm, with
this one being different, we
will put this in our plan, our
statewide plan, and looking at
the future. If we have another
event like this, what's our best
course of action? Like,
what roads and bridges should
they monitor for flooding? Local
leaders like Butler say they've
also learned lessons. I
just hope that we don't have to
face using them again. No time
soon,
hurricane season continues
through November and usually
gets more active in the fall.
Yeah, I just
Adam Curry: got a note from Sir
by His grace, who is in Florida.
He said, No, no, September,
September. September is when
it's all supposed to happen,
okay, but I hope it doesn't for
him and his family, yeah, for
everyone, it's no good. I have
two clips just of some things
that are actually this. You
know, you had a 4.4 magnitude
momentum scale earthquake
John C Dvorak: last week,
Southern California. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And
Adam Curry: listening to this
clip, I'm like, Oh, I see what
you're doing. This is a real
estate scam.
Unknown: Angelenos felt the
jolt, the shaking, of a 4.4
magnitude earthquake this week.
It felt like a basketball some
put their earthquake drills to
good use and sheltered
underneath kitchen tables. This
latest one originated from the
Puente Hills fault, which is 25
miles long and runs from
Glendale to Pasadena to Puente
Hills. It's been really active
in recent months, much more so
than in past years. In its
location near apartment
buildings, homes and businesses,
is concerning.
Has the potential for a very
large earthquake. It's been
modeled up to magnitude seven
and a half.
The issue retrofitting is coming
back to the forefront. In 2015
the LA City Council voted to
require certain older buildings
to undergo retrofits to make
them more resilient. Owners had
until 2023 to make those
changes. According to analysis
from the LA Times, there are
currently 6000 buildings
potentially in need of
earthquake updates in LA County.
KTLA consumer expert David
Lazarus says, luckily,
technology and infrastructure
has improved enormously over the
decades.
Buildings that go up now will
simply be safer than buildings
that went up, say, 2030, years
ago. So that's an element to all
of this at the same time. Make
no mistake, it's a roll of the
dice. If you're planning to
spend millions or billions of
dollars on a new project, you
know full well there could be a
catastrophe around the corner.
Adam Curry: No, I think what's
happening here is 6000
homeowners are going to get a
knock on the door. It's going to
be up. If you don't want to
upgrade, we're going to tear it
down and we're going to put a
new building here. Smells like a
real estate scam to me.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know
that earlier report about the
water, they cut the water off,
seems like a real estate scam
too. I mean, when you drive down
Highway five over the last few
years and you get down to maybe
100 miles north of Los Angeles,
everything is all dried up, and
there's sign there's billboards
up, people saying they've taken
they're screwing us over. They
won't give us water, so we're
farmers are going out of
business left and right, and
there's a bunch of dead. You see
dead trees all over the place,
orchards that are just dried up
and dead.
Adam Curry: Oh, you know? Why
you know? Why don't you know?
Why don't you
Unknown: climate change? Due to
climate change,
Adam Curry: exactly due to
climate change. Man, get out of
there. Get out of there. You're
never going to leave. Are you?
You want? You want to? I love it
here. You're going down with the
ship. All right. Final clip.
This is just one of those little
revealing things that you didn't
hear much about in the
headlines. The voting
Unknown: technology company
suing right wing media outlets
over 2020 Election coverage is
now embroiled in its own
controversy. The US Justice
Department indicted three
current and former executives
from Smartmatic on charges
connected to a bribery scheme.
Prosecutors say the executives
use a slush fund to bribe the
former top election official in
the Philippines, Andy Bautista,
in exchange providing voting
machines and services for the
country's 2016 elections. The
alleged bribes amount to at
least $1 million Bautista, who
was indicted in another case in
the US, is currently in hiding,
though he responded to the
indictment on X saying he's
innocent and the charges are
politically motive. Debated by
Philippine officials, Smartmatic
responded, saying the current
employees indicted have been
placed on leave but remain
innocent until proven guilty.
The company maintains the
indictment does not involve
voter fraud and the business
itself is not included in the
indictment. Smartmatic is
currently suing several media
personalities and news outlets,
including Fox News and Newsmax,
in a nearly $3 billion
defamation lawsuit over
commentary falsely accusing the
company of helping to steal the
2020, election from former
President Donald Trump,
Adam Curry: there you go. Bunch
of corrupt, corrupt people in
that company. Sounds like he's
in hiding, but he posts on X,
yeah, and we can't find out
where you are. No,
John C Dvorak: you can't find
out anything. Can't find out
who's calling me and telling me
that. Hey, Mr. Davok, Yo, you
got a call wreck recently. Why
you are in call wreck? Do you
have? Did you got good insurance
for a car wreck you had just
recently
Adam Curry: or like I got due
tonight? GOP petitioned to
require ID to vote in all 50
states. We were just 15
signatures away. Just 15 don't
cost us this sign now stop.
Equals, end. That's the third
one. Just
John C Dvorak: read another one
of these things. That's the
third. Have there been any other
ones that you kind of passed
over and No,
Adam Curry: no, so
John C Dvorak: you've gotten
three? Three,
Adam Curry: yes. Well, okay, the
night is young. Anyway, I'm
happy that you're in California.
You are boots on the ground in
California. Yeah, that's good.
I'm
John C Dvorak: boots on the
ground. One of the guys that was
coming to the meetup says, you
know, I don't know you guys a
safe place to park my Tesla. And
I'm saying I'm in the East Bay.
That's all the car you park it,
you won't find your Tesla.
That's the problem, because
there's this Tesla, Tesla,
Tesla, Tesla. You know, he's and
his thought was that, well, you
know, people hate Elon Musk now,
so they're gonna break my Tesla
windows.
Unknown: Imagine all the people
who could do, oh, yeah, that'd
be
Adam Curry: fun. No, we're gonna
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and above, we give your name and
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it, sometimes there's a message,
if we can slip it in there, and
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Thank you to those came in under
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go ahead and tell us who. Yeah.
Let's start
John C Dvorak: with Erie. Kira
Kira Kira Augi. Kiragi, karagi,
baby. Prague Oklahoma, okay?
Prague, Oklahoma. James Watson
in concord township, Ohio, 105
35 he's on his way to
knighthood. It looks like then
we have Angela Garcia in San
Francisco, Adam Reimer in Napa,
and light Chow and Sophie nuyen
in parts unknown, but also in
California, because they all
went to the Albany meetup, each
one of them dropped in $100
nice. That's nice. Robin Tolbert
in Topeka eight, and it's got
too many eggs.com. Mentioned too
many eggs.com. Beautiful sir
Dave of the clay pits in East
North port. Pert, I'm sorry,
East North port, New York,
eight, 888. Baroness knight in
Edmonds, Washington, 88 Tyler
Darrington in Las Vegas, las
wages, Nevada, 808. And guess
who's missing?
Unknown: Oh,
Adam Curry: no, this.
John C Dvorak: This may be the
reason that there was numbers
were so low off the mailing.
Adam Curry: We need to we need a
health check. We need a wellness
check.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so Kevin,
we have to assume Kevin
McLaughlin sent it in and didn't
go through this is this was an
issue, I think, which caused the
low numbers. What kind of issue?
Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, like a
paper issue. We had a PayPal
issue. I had. It has to be Kevin
O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois,
606. James Edmondson in South
Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510
Dean Roker, 5510 sir. Robertson
of two sticks in DOS palos,
California. Yeah. He came in
from dos Paulos, $55 at the
Albany meetup. Mark Hardwick in
Alito, Alito, Texas, 5533 sir,
recalcitrant. This is crazy.
Steve Yes from Santa Rosa. Uh,
5150, uh. He also, I think he's
the one who gave me the book. He
gave me a book, kind of, what
kind of book it was, one of
these, you know, anti fed, where
the government's screwing us.
Economics, the kind
Adam Curry: of book you get on a
list, a pile of them you get on
a list for having that book.
Well, maybe
John C Dvorak: us anyway. That's
recalci, and he did the meetup.
So he's, I can't good guy.
Compliment him enough. Dean, a
carrier in Laval, Quebec, $50
long time. Douchebag needs a D
douche
Unknown: you've been D douched.
So that's
John C Dvorak: 50 these. Rest of
these are all 50s. This came in
the short list today. Hopefully
I'll do better next Thursday.
Scott lavender in Montgomery,
Texas. Luke Olson in Alexandria
of Virginia. Andrew Alexander in
Fredericksburg, Texas. Hey,
Cory. Hey, who Frederick Andrew
Alexander,
Adam Curry: I don't I don't
know. Andrew. Andrew, let's hang
out at Java Ranch,
John C Dvorak: Corey Bennett in
Denver College. There's 5000
people in that town, 11,000
there's a lot. Well, there's
five that doesn't mean there's
not 5000
Adam Curry: Oh, there's no
evidence there. There's 5000
John C Dvorak: there's 5000 that
you know, there is 5000 there's
there's one. Corey Bennett in
Denver College, just this is
what you call parsing four more
years. Corey Bennett in Denver,
Colorado. Leanne Shipley in
Covington, Covington, Covington,
Washington. Sir Jerry wing and
Roth in Saugus, California. Ah,
Dame Abigail, the weird poet who
was spelled with a Y. She was at
the Albany meetup and $50 and
Paul best in Bedford UK, 50 and
he says, enjoyed your banter
since discovering you again on
the Joe another Joe Rogan,
laggard
Adam Curry: man, Joe's got to
have me back on the show.
John C Dvorak: If the lag time
is what this is like, what's the
last time you run a year ago? No
Adam Curry: longer. It's been,
it's been, oh, man, it'll be
coming up three years, two
years, two years, I think. And
John C Dvorak: now we're getting
these, these guys coming in
late. That's, I find it very
strange. Well, it could be just
random numbers. Thanks for the
entertainment and analysis. He
says, donate some karma to
Bitcoin. As a Bitcoin guy, never
mind forget what I read. These
are our groups of tricked you
are of our well wishers and
donors and producers for show
16, 887.
Adam Curry: Thank you all so
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And we would like everybody to
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Lawrence wolf celebrated on
August 8, so it's a belated, but
Happy belated birthday. Craig
Clifford turns 63 today. Sue
William of West. Bessler
Pennsyltucky wishes DC girl a
happy birthday. It's her
birthday today. Hello, DC girl.
How you doing? Tyler Derrington
also celebrating today. And Erie
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universe. Title changes to
into title changes, as we heard
earlier, Sir Ben nitist UPS his
quota by bringing us some some
gold and some silver. We take it
all. We accept it all. We
appreciate it. He will
henceforth be known as Sir Ben
nitist, duke of San Francisco,
man, when you hit that Grand
Duke, then you get a jingle. You
know that, right? I'm just
saying that's the grand dukes.
We love hearing from our grand
dukes. Haven't heard from a
couple of them. And I'm very
concerned about Sir Kevin
McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna and
lover of America, and boobs. I'm
concerned about him. This is not
like him. I want a wellness
check done. I'm concerned. Can't
say it any other way.
John C Dvorak: Want to make sure
that I'm sure he has friends who
listen to the show that can
check in on him. Please do it.
So make sure he's okay. That's
all could have been the could
have been, Debbie, well, we just
want
Adam Curry: to make sure,
Debbie, so I want to make sure
you're okay. Hey, we got two
nights to bring up onto the
podium. This is always a great
celebration. John. I have my
sword here. Thank you very much.
Craig Clifford and Lawrence
Wolf, gentlemen, come on down.
Both of you today become
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of the no agenda Roundtable. I'm
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A bottle of 2019 CAVIS Cabernet
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and gerbils. We got breast milk
and pablum. We got Ruben, sluman
and Rose and mutton and Mead.
That mutton and Mead is good,
man. The meat is a very good
batch, actually, that test,
yeah,
John C Dvorak: but donate to it.
The fat is what stinks
Adam Curry: on the mutton.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, mutton,
Adam Curry: but, but the meat,
the meat, it takes away all the
fatty tastes. If you don't like
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to the roundtable. And as
always, we thank all of the
Knights and Dames of the no
agenda roundtable. You
I unfortunately, I was prepping
yesterday until like 435
o'clock, so there was no way I
could get to the float meet
which Baron Scott did in San
Marcos. But I know that a lot of
people went, and I'm sure they
had a very good time. Hopefully
we'll have a meet up report from
him for the next show on
Thursday. In the meantime, we
have a report from Rockford,
Illinois. This is the Deutsch
bags meetup. Dame
Unknown: anonymous got us. Here
is the Rockford meetup. Deutsche
bags in the USA. Is a successful
time with good friends, good
drinks. Here we
go and small amygdalas. This is
former douchebag ray in the
morning, Adam and John, we got
kicked out by some spooks, and
we're sitting outside. But have
a nice little hooey. Hooey. It's
great, people. Great food.
Kyle Baron of the north of North
Valley of foxes. John, get the
Cadillac plan. Adam, I
love you, brother.
This is John the UN deducible.
This is Dame Julie bunny here in
the morning. In the morning,
Adam Curry: a nice little mix.
There some good people, the
Deutsch Deutsch bags in the USA.
Meet Up. Only one meet up taking
place today, the hidden gem
burger shack edition in tays
burger shack that's North Kansas
City, Missouri, that is underway
as we speak. Sir Spencer, The
Wolf of Kansas, who doesn't know
him, will be hosting that coming
up in the month of August.
What's left we have Rogers,
Arkansas, Monrovia, California,
Alexandria, Virginia,
spooksville, Spearfish, South
Dakota, London, UK, in the 25th
Keene, New Hampshire, Tulsa,
Oklahoma. Alpharetta, Georgia,
Sharpsburg, Maryland, Medford
lakes, New Jersey, Goleta,
California, Raleigh, North
Carolina, Aurora, Illinois,
Garden City, Idaho, St
Augustine, Florida, Tucson,
Arizona, Bedford, Texas, North
Charleston. Now into September,
North Charleston, South
Carolina, Sacramento, California
is on the list for November. So
many meetups. Tina and I were
talking about doing a meetup
somewhere. I got to think about,
we were, there was some
traveling. Oh, I, you know, I, I
didn't know that cotton gin
actually lives in Plymouth. And
we were there, and he didn't, he
didn't tell me, yeah, we could
have done a little mini meetup.
It would have been great. He
could have, it was fun driving
through, uh, Plymouth and
saying, We're in Massachusetts,
nuts, and boy, were we ever even
cotton gin says, Yeah, we're
crazy over here, that's the no
agenda meetups. You can go to
any one of these on the list.
There's no entry fee. Usually
it's in a bar, some cool
hangout, sometimes a pizza
restaurant. Sometimes it's
somebody's home. You will meet
people and children from other
lands that you never have would
have encountered otherwise. We
all have one thing in common.
You were all part of no agenda
nation. It's a good time
guaranteed. Never had a negative
report, ever a fight has never
broken out at a no agenda meetup
that I'm aware of. So that's
something to say. Go to no
agenda meetups.com. Go search
for a town near you, if you
can't find one, here's a
thought. Start your own meetup.
No agenda. Meetups.com. Easy and
always a party.
Unknown: Gonna be where
everybody feels the same,
it's like a party.
Adam Curry: There's like a
party, okay? ISOs, we always
like to select our end of show.
ISO. Do it out in the open. Show
you how the i. How the sausages.
Sausages is made. Sausages is
made. I have 123, I have five,
five,
John C Dvorak: then you go
first. None
Adam Curry: of them good,
probably,
Unknown: it's hard to explain.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm on the
Biden tip here. Nothing,
Unknown: nothing, nothing
Adam Curry: kind of like that,
or
Unknown: its counterpart,
economy, economy, economy, no.
Adam Curry: And then we always
have,
Unknown: due to climate change,
Adam Curry: there's that one,
there's that one. You guess you
have better ones, huh?
John C Dvorak: I think so. Okay,
so let's start with a I had to
do one of these because you do
them all the time. So I did.
Mine is 100
Unknown: 100%
John C Dvorak: okay, it's out of
the way. Now, you got a little
laughing thing here, he, he, a
little
Adam Curry: he, he, okay, ah,
you cut it off. That's too bad.
John C Dvorak: That was no
problem. Okay, we got, here's an
oh my gosh,
Unknown: oh my gosh, yo, good
one. Yeah, I'm
Adam Curry: liking that.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. And then this one, which I
think is interesting, because it
kind of applies to the show. Oh,
thank you both. It
Unknown: was so fun.
Adam Curry: I don't like the
music. I like,
Unknown: Oh my gosh.
Adam Curry: I think, I think
that that's a clear winner. Oh
my gosh, is the winner we'll be
playing at the end of the show.
But first, it is time once
again, for John's last
Unknown: for you and me.
Just kidding, with JCD. And
sometimes I don't,
Adam Curry: yeah, time for the
tip of the day. People love this
item. They learn something. It's
often it's a tip that improves
your life. It really is
something that you can only get
here the best podcast in the
universe.
John C Dvorak: Well, this is a
screwball one. This one's
actually Mimi's,
Adam Curry: unlike all the other
ones, really.
John C Dvorak: And she reminded
me of this, because I've gotten
into these things too. It's a
product that you get it on
Amazon, you can get it all over
the place, but it's a product.
It's a sponge substitute,
because it's not a sponge, but
it looks like it acts like a
sponge, but it's not a sponge.
It's a scrubber scrubbing device
called, and you could look them
up there. I think they're a
little overpriced. I think
they're like, three or four
bucks each, but they, they
don't, you know, you buy these,
these different kinds of
scrubbing devices, and the
sponge on one side and scrubber
on the and they A week later,
they stink to something. They
they make them so they go bad,
they go rotten. That doesn't
happen with these devices.
Adam Curry: Lessons,
John C Dvorak: yeah, stinker.
Lessons,
Adam Curry: scrub daddy. Scrub
daddy.
John C Dvorak: Get the scrub
daddy and see what you think
these scrub daddies are killer,
especially if you have nonstick
pots and pans or anything,
actually, any sort of ceramic
wear. These things are terrific.
This is an amazing product,
scrub daddy. And they're about
three or four bucks a pop.
Adam Curry: You know what? I
have a lot of things to scrub. I
think I'll try a scrub. Daddy
myself.
John C Dvorak: You won't regret
it. The
Unknown: world's gone mad. But
don't you worry, it's time for
Tip of the Day with Helen curry,
Adam Curry: oh and John Cena
vorac, sorry. Wrong jingle.
Unknown: It happens.
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for the monkeypox. I'm sorry. M
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Region, number six in the
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
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mofos. A hooey. Hooey, first and
Unknown: foremost. Let's just
start from the beginning. How
exactly is monkeypox spread?
According to the CDC, 98% of
monkeypox cases are in men. 93%
among men who reported recent
sexual contact with other
men. Look The CDC says the vast
majority of cases have involved
men having sex with other men.
But it. Late Friday night,
Illinois officials reported that
a daycare worker tested
positive.
CBC, the warning
over the weekend about children
under the age of eight now to
the
monkeypox outbreak spreading in
the US. A seventh child has now
been infected for
a suspected case of human to dog
monkeypox transmission. It
happened in France. First and
foremost, let's just start from
the beginning, how exactly is
monkeypox spread? Spread
well, as much as many people
don't want to accept this. It is
primarily a sexually transmitted
infection. When
we first get it, we started to
get those reports. And then it
wasn't just cats. It wasn't just
dogs. We saw it with other
animals as well. We have
an outbreak that has spread
around the world, rapidly
growing concern over the global
spread of monkeypox
spreading. Spreading.
The nation's monkeypox outbreak
is spreading.
A lot. A loaf of bread cost 50%
more today than it did before
the pandemic. Ground beef is up
almost 50%
I'm Donald Trump and I have Ruth
as best. This is the Maduro
plant, Venezuela. Maduro plant.
It will cause rationing, hunger
skyrocketing, and we got the
best
John C Dvorak: commercial of the
week, and we didn't do anything.
Unknown: We just played her. But
here's the problem, the things
that she said yesterday don't
work. They have never worked.
They've never been used many
times before in many other
countries, they've never worked.
They've just never worked. It's
a communist. It's what her
father a Marxist. He was a
Marxist. It's what her father
taught her.
When I am elected president, I
will make it a top priority to
bring down costs and increase
economic security for all
Americans. As President, I will
take on the high costs that
matter most to most Americans,
Like the cost of food You you're
really
proud of
brain policies.
Want to say you don't
have a brain. You
don't have a brain. You
have a brain.org/n
a, oh, my gosh. I.