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Adam Curry: He'll never shut it
down here. He'll keep it rolling
for us.
Unknown: Adam curry,
John C Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: September 1. 2024
this is your award winning give
our nation media assassination
Episode 1691
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: not banned in
Brazil, and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry, and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I want to
say, let me be clear. Let me be
clear. Happy birthday to Adam.
I'm John C vorac. It's crack
line buzzkill in the morning.
Adam Curry: Well, thank you. Did
you? Did you? Did you not
respond to your invite.
John C Dvorak: What invite
Adam Curry: you are on the list?
Tina said you opened it. She had
an open from you. Ah, that's
interesting. So you read it, but
they didn't register my surprise
party.
John C Dvorak: Well,
congratulations, you didn't have
a heart attack. That's a plus.
No, I
Adam Curry: did not it. Man,
it's a little concerning when
your wife can actually keep
something from you for two
months and I had no clue.
John C Dvorak: So you're telling
me you're clueless,
Adam Curry: completely clueless.
But also the fact that Grand
Duke Foley was there with his
wife from California, Duke of
Texas, Gene Rob, the
constitutional lawyer, the
former New York banker, and his
wife, the blood diamond
smugglers, the international
arms dealer, my full dental
team, Sir Mark Hall, Dame
Christina Pearl, Charles the
Lord King. I mean, it was
John C Dvorak: Charles the Lord
King. Yes,
Adam Curry: Charles the Lord
King. It was fantastic. It
really was It was great. I was
very surprised, and I felt very
loved John. And everyone wanted
to know, is John here? Is John
here? And so I guess you didn't
know
John C Dvorak: it just did not
fit into the schedule, like, if
I felt it was not I got one
evite thing, but most of the
evite stuff gets put into the
spam folder. Oh, yeah, okay, and
I didn't. I did open one, and
then I never saw it again, and
then I kind of forgot about
Adam Curry: it. I said, if
John's coming, he'll probably
roll up just as we're leaving,
and he'd be like, turn on. That
John C Dvorak: would probably be
true, because I always get the
time wrong. Skirt just happened
once.
Adam Curry: Anyway, the keeper
really earned her name. I've
never had a surprise. Have you
ever had a surprise party
throne? God, no, I never thought
I would like it. But, man, I
sure did. I sure did.
John C Dvorak: That was a lot of
gifts
Adam Curry: I got outrageous.
Amount. I mean, just that people
showed up was fantastic. I got a
lot of gifts. Well, let's
John C Dvorak: talk about it.
What did you get? I got a 12
Adam Curry: gage shotgun, short
barrel home defense unit. That
was a good one. I got this
amazing travel bag that's, I
John C Dvorak: think this
shotgun says it all. That's
Adam Curry: from my brother,
Vic, out from Dallas. Yeah, the
shotgun was right up there. No,
I mean, just tons of gifts. I
mean, I can't even mention them
all. I have to thank everybody
saying, Oh, it's going to be my
first day of vacation, which
I'll be working on leave
tomorrow from that I thought
that was my gift, my my Birthday
Trip. But no, this was good. It
was it was a Fredericksburg
affair. We shut down six twists
on Main Street, just for the
Unknown: just for the party.
Adam Curry: You were missed. Let
me just say that you were
missed. Well, I appreciate that.
Yeah, you were missed.
Meanwhile, back at home, we're
not banned in Brazil yet. No,
can't ban us in Brazil. There's
no way. We're on. We're on.
IPFS, man, there's no way they
cannot stop us. We're
unstoppable. It's all the
podcasting. 2.0 stuff. Have you
been following this X band in
Brazil, which is just an
outrage. It is an outrage. Yeah,
really, is it really? Though,
John C Dvorak: what's the point?
Adam Curry: Well, the point,
well,
John C Dvorak: I mean, the
Brazilians. First of all, you
have to remember the Brazilians
are the only ones who adopted
that Google. I can just about to
remember the name of it, the
Google social network that was
competing with Facebook back
about 10 years ago. God,
Adam Curry: what was that
called? It was quick jump.
John C Dvorak: Quickly,
Adam Curry: quick, quick jump.
John C Dvorak: That's the news.
Something crazy sounding uh,
Adam Curry: or cut, or cut or
cut.
John C Dvorak: Was it or cut? No
or or cut?
Adam Curry: Yeah, didn't they
didn't they buy or cut. They,
who's they? Google? Didn't
Google buy something
John C Dvorak: they started this
was, I think there was an
internal whatever the case was,
it doesn't matter. It was hugely
popular in Brazil
Adam Curry: that was, or that
was, or cut it was popular with
the with the with the lady boys.
John C Dvorak: Well, Brazilians,
you have to remember, or have to
know, that they're extremely
sociable. Yeah, it's probably
the most sociable place I've
ever been. And they'll throw a
party for anything and and so
their social networks, that
would be something they'd really
fall into fast, but without but
it wouldn't prevent them from
being normally sociable. It's
not like here, where your son's
stuck on the phone all the time,
like a teenage girl. It you
don't talk to anybody, and you
just glued to the phone, right?
That's a little different there.
And so they're very concerned
about any social media thing,
because it could take over the
country. Well,
Adam Curry: yeah, that's, I
mean, they got that, right. So I
looked into the story, and
there's a couple of interesting
angles. Quick clip from
Scandinavia, a Brazilian
Unknown: Supreme Court judge has
ordered the immediate suspension
of the social media platform x
in Brazil, meaning people there
can no longer access or use it.
Ex owner, Elon Musk failed to
meet a deadline set by the court
to name a new legal
representative in the country.
The Brazilian court and musk
have been at odds for months,
fighting over free speech and
for x allowing far right
accounts and misinformation on
the platform. The Supreme Court
won't bring back the platform
until Musk complies with his
orders and pays millions of
dollars in fines. Musk was quick
to react to this news, posting
on the platform overnight,
attacking the judge that issued
the suspension.
Adam Curry: All right, so we
have some details there. I had
to get everything from
foreigners. Can't really get
anything useful from American M,
5m this is France, 24 with some
other details.
Unknown: The Brazilian Supreme
Court Judge Alessandra de Marais
has ordered the full and
immediate suspension of Elon
Musk's social media platform x
in Brazil. In his ruling, he
condemned the owner of x, saying
Elon Musk showed his total
disrespect for Brazilian
sovereignty, and in particular
for the judiciary setting
himself up as a true
supranational entity and immune
to the laws of each country. The
judge on Wednesday said x in
Brazil would be suspended if it
didn't respect a deadline to
appoint a legal representative,
as required by Brazilian law,
that deadline was not respected.
The round between the judge and
the tech billionaire has been
simmering for months after X
failed to comply with legal
orders to block certain accounts
accused of spreading fake news
and hate messages on his social
media platform with a volley of
posts saying that, among other
things, free speech is the
bedrock of democracy, and an
unelected pseudo judge in Brazil
is destroying it for political
purposes. In his post, he
compares the judge to Lord
Voldemort out of the Harry
Potter books.
Adam Curry: So there's a lot of
misinformation, hate speech, the
bedrock of democracy, we need
free speech. So I really it
seemed like they would just so
the reason for the blocking, I
don't know if they blocked it,
other than they turned off the
electricity in Brazil for like,
overnight. Oh, just got no
electricity. So reboot your
routers everybody while we
install some blocking software.
Oh, that
John C Dvorak: was your gag. No,
no,
Adam Curry: no, no. The gag is
really, is really. What's next?
John C Dvorak: I referred to the
gag before the show. Oh, I had a
gag. Yeah, you said re Have you
rebooted your
Adam Curry: router? Oh, no, only
because a troll said that we're
no longer saying, reboot your
router. No, no, that had nothing
to do. It just came up again. So
I wanted to know the sequence of
events. What actually happened
is it just because of fake news
and misinformation and hate
speech, and is Elon just
standing up for free speech
because everyone needs us. We're
wired and Deutsche villa. Take
it for what it's worth, because
we know who feeds Deutsche Villa
the information our own three
letter agencies, they gave us
some actual detail on the
accounts that they wanted
blocked. And so this is not
atypical for for X, even we know
that x blocked several accounts,
clearly for political reasons in
Turkey at the behest of the
Turkish Government. And Elon
said, Well, you know, I want to
keep operating there. It seems
like this was kind of the same,
but Elon just spun everybody all
up over four. British bridge X
Unknown: announced on X that it
would not comply with the
court's instruction. Here's some
of what this
Adam Curry: is a Brazilian
professor who is the guy's got
on the horn here appeared
Unknown: on the company's global
affairs account today, soon, we
expect judge Alexander demores
will order x to be shut down in
Brazil simply because we would
not comply with his illegal
orders to censor his political
opponents. Now these enemies
include a duly elected senator
and a 16 year old girl, amongst
others. So Professor, what is
Elon Musk referring to there?
He's referring to some of those
investigations that I mentioned.
So in this case, there was a
senator who was using his
account to, for instance, incite
the military against the
civilian government. In the
other case that he mentioned, a
profile of a young girl was
used, apparently by her father,
to dox a police officer who was
working in one of those
investigations. And so it was in
that context that Justice more
guys ordered the platform to
bring those profiles down. But
Mr. Musk, as I mentioned, is
refusing to do that, and he's
claiming that this is
censorship, which I do not agree
with, because, as I mentioned
this, these decisions are being
adopted in the context of
investigations that look into
violation of Brazilian laws.
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's a
little different story, and who
knows what's true. But as you
said, you know, I'm sure they
wanted to stop some politician
who was inciting the military to
get out on the street, because
that seems to work in Brazil and
then doxing. I don't think
that's cool under any
circumstance. So I, you know, I
don't know. I'm, uh, I'm on the
fence about this. It's certainly
being played as Elon. He'll
never shut it down here. He'll
keep it rolling for us. We're
safe. We're safe. Don't worry.
Please pay no attention to
jacorino and her twin in the
background, twiddling the dials.
So I don't know. Man, I don't
know. And I'm surprised that our
own M, 5m didn't come out and
say, Yeah, you know, just like,
uh, Trump was blocked for
inciting an insurrection. So
yeah,
John C Dvorak: little iffy,
little I don't know who is
controlling the narrative here
in our media regarding this,
it's not played well. Satan
Adam Curry: is controlling the
whole media. Come on. The media
in America is, is it's just
become tedious. It's so stupid
and boring. Well, it's actually,
it's humorous for us, but for
people. I mean, are people still
watching the M 5m I guess they
must be
John C Dvorak: the numbers. Are
there?
Adam Curry: Something must mean
John C Dvorak: they're not what
they used to be. No, you want to
look at numbers. You go to a
football game, you know? You see
some numbers? Yeah.
Adam Curry: That's why the
Kelsey brothers are making so
much money, apparently.
John C Dvorak: So I guess
brothers
Adam Curry: that, and, you know,
he's, he's dating Taylor Swift.
I'm sure that doesn't hurt.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure that's,
that's the main marketing movie
could make. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they could make.
John C Dvorak: So probably
double, double teaming, or,
Adam Curry: you know, football
and Okay, so Meanwhile, back
here in the United States of
America, all eyes on America,
because we got the most
important election of our life
coming up our lifetime. Nothing
matters more than this one. This
is the one. Aren't you glad that
you're we're still alive, and I
can say this, yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: fabulous. Nothing
in history has ever been like
never today. It's
Adam Curry: It's so tight too.
It's tight, then you have no
seriously,
John C Dvorak: it's tight. Every
time we've, we've been doing
this show for 17 years almost,
and it's always been tight,
tight. This is always been
tight.
Adam Curry: Our fourth
presidential election, tight,
tight, tight, tight. So
John C Dvorak: when the money
starts flowing in one direction,
they make it tight in the other
direction. Coincidentally, how
does that work? I
Adam Curry: don't know. It's,
it's, it's, I'll
John C Dvorak: tell you how it
works from the industry
perspective. Look, hey, look,
Trump spent spending more money
than you guys, and now look,
he's getting higher numbers. You
better start ponying up, or
it'll
Adam Curry: be tight. Be tight.
So vice president Harris and
Vice President Elect, elect
nominee waltz did their
interview on CNN. I think it
does warrant some some
deconstruction. I think you and
I both saw right off the bat,
what was wrong about this? Well,
let
John C Dvorak: me be clear.
Adam Curry: Please
John C Dvorak: do that was it?
That's all I have to say.
Adam Curry: Why was she sitting
on a kindergarten chair?
John C Dvorak: She looked like a
little kid. Who
Adam Curry: styled this and for
what read was this sabotage. I
John C Dvorak: think it was
incompetence. I think is, I
think it is, I don't think it
needs to be sabotaged.
Personally, I think that they're
an incompetent group. They don't
know what they're doing. She's
always wearing these dumpy pant
suits. What is the who, who's
styling her
Adam Curry: well, it's to be
fair, the the pantsuits are
there to hide things, including
the the there's other
John C Dvorak: ways of doing it.
These are very dumpy pantsuits.
There can be style. If you had
Armani or somebody styled a pant
suit, it would, yeah, still be a
pantsuit, and could still hide
what you're trying to hide, but
it wouldn't look like a dumpy,
cheap, not even, you know, like
a Ross pant suit. It's just
that, plus the fact that she's
sitting on a what on the floor.
Also, the
Adam Curry: lighting was very
poor, because lighting was
terrible. Her, I mean, we're
just coming at this from
television production
standpoint, because we have a
lot of experience with I would
have stopped this. Anybody with
eyes to see would have said,
Hold on a second. Tim, you need
to get on the kindergarten
chair, because you look like the
Jolly Green Giant here towering
over her Dana Bash had the
lighting. Dana Bash, I did the
same thing. Kamala did. Dana
Bash. Dana Bash had the
lighting. She had good lighting.
John C Dvorak: And we did have
good lighting, right? Was
Adam Curry: this a cafeteria or
what? What was the supposed
John C Dvorak: to be? A diner or
something? There was no casual
location. It
Adam Curry: looked like it was
in an apartment building.
John C Dvorak: What's the point?
Exactly?
Adam Curry: It made no sense. It
wasn't casual. It's looked very
uncomfortable. It's
uncomfortable dark,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it dingy.
It was emphasized her little
girl look. She's down low to the
ground. Oh, you
Adam Curry: think that was the
idea, let's make her look like a
little girl.
John C Dvorak: That's what it
looked like. Where
Adam Curry: was JJ Abraham?
John C Dvorak: Think that was
the idea, though. I think it's
just base incompetence. Nobody
knows the basics. You had all
the head levels are supposed to
be the same in these in these
three shots, but you got to
Adam Curry: presume that CNN set
this up to see is CNN now
completely incompetent as well?
John C Dvorak: Well, if you, if
you're thinking that they
brought over somebody that knew
that they were doing at CNN, and
they let it happen like this,
I'm wondering. We don't know
behind the scenes what was going
on. It could have been all
Camela people telling them what
to do, and with the CNN people
going, okay, whatever you want.
You're editing it. Just
Adam Curry: imagine, madam, Vice
President, you look fantastic.
This is a perfect shot. This
will really go over well. I
mean, JJ, Abrams did the DNC,
they couldn't give him, like,
get an extra day out of him.
They got money, money, you know,
John C Dvorak: hubris note here
is, you have to assume that you
needed JJ, Abrams. Hey, you know
I did TV, and when I was in high
school, and we had a little TV
studio, and I've done this. I
know what I'm doing. No, it's
Adam Curry: better than that.
Hey, I do a podcast. So I can
help. I can help, madam, Vice
President, I'm a podcaster. I'm
a I'm a tick tocker. Tick tock
is better than this. It was, it
was pathetic. And then to have
on screen live that was
John C Dvorak: taped. Yes, talk
about, you're out about that.
You should have put that in the
newsletter.
Adam Curry: Disinformation. That
was live, that was a lie. Was
not live anyway.
John C Dvorak: It was fact. It
was what, two days earlier than
when they taped it, because it
took him two days to edit it
down.
Adam Curry: Here's before the
interview, and this is mainly
from CNM. I think there's an
MSNBC in there as well. The M
5m, our, our mainstream media
was really just totally
understanding of of the lack of
interviews, because elections
aren't about policy. In fact,
stating your policy is a very
dumb move. No one wants to hear
that that can tank you. What
people in America want the way
we elect our presidents is the
same way we choose our breakfast
cereal. Vibes, man. Vibes,
candidates
Unknown: don't need us as
journalists to get their message
out. They don't anymore in this
ecosystem, in
the media preoccupied with like,
how much access, how many
conversations is she going to
have?
I don't know how much that
matters. There is risk in
talking to us. There's
no doubt about that. Then
you hear the criticism,
oh, she's to do more interviews.
She has to talk about policy
insiders you're speaking to.
They're
sort of like, no, yeah, no,
I love you all, but I don't want
to talk them to you. All right
now, remember what Elizabeth
Warren did when she ran back in
2020? She had a white paper for
every policy position under the
sun, and what happened? She
collapsed in the primary. So the
belief that perhaps you put more
ideas on paper, that's a bad
idea. The
more details you share, the more
your policies are going to get
picked apart. Harris has
changed this from being a policy
election and more of like a
movement,
a cultural, vibes,
policy, vibes, vibes election.
It's a vibes election.
This vibes
election that we're all feeling
right now. It already felt like
a vibes election before most
elections are vibes elections. I
think every
election, frankly, is a vibes
election. And I think there are
really only two vibes that
matter in American politics. One
is hope and joy, and the other
is fear and anger.
John C Dvorak: Wow, that's that
is the best. I'm actually going
to give you a borderline clip,
because that's one of the better
Supercuts I've heard for
Unknown: a while. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: So funny.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I love that
there's only two types of vibes,
man, hope and joy or fear. And
what was the what was the last
thing that said fear and
Unknown: fear and anger, hope
and joy, and the other is fear
and anger,
Adam Curry: fear and anger and
right in lockstep. We've kind of
forgotten about our our new CEO
of National Public Radio or
national treasure. What's her
name? Again? Catherine Katie,
John C Dvorak: no, I
Adam Curry: let me Homer second.
Catherine Marr. Catherine Marr,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we did a
whole thing on her. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: horrible person. Her
infinite wisdom to make sure
that she keeps her her aging.
Listeners, I'm the last person
to talk about aging.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I just had
a surprise birthday for how old
are you?
Adam Curry: But on Tuesday, I'll
be 60. I still feel 15 inside.
You still make me laugh with the
funny jokes in her infinite
wisdom to make, to do her bit
for the party. NPR has appointed
a joy czar. No,
John C Dvorak: yes, ah, you
caught me flat footed. I
Adam Curry: just joy czar. Yes,
that's right,
John C Dvorak: is it? Joy Behar,
no, no, no, no, no, no. Joy
Reid,
Adam Curry: amid the highly
charged partisan politics in the
US, along with wars in Ukraine,
the Middle East, National Public
Radio, it's appointed a joy czar
to help the broadcaster find
more uplifting stories embedded
in the newsroom throughout the
year, the person will aim to
ratchet up our joy quotient.
It's now KPI, your joy quotient
across platforms. This is from
an internal memo. We do not know
the name yet of the joy czar,
but you can bet that person's
gonna have an interesting time.
In fact, we should have that
should be a donation level. Joys
are, can be a joys are of the no
agenda show.
John C Dvorak: It's, I mean, but
you've given me ideas. Isn't
Adam Curry: this kind of obvious
what they're doing. You know, if
we didn't have enough politics
of joy and Black joy, and that's
John C Dvorak: obvious, what
they're doing, they're promoting
Kamala Harris, yes,
Adam Curry: and that's your
news. This is, this is our first
big move from the new CEO. All
right, everybody, I'm the new
CEO. I'm gonna fix this place.
Here's what we're gonna do when
appoint a joys are who wants to
be the joy czar? No hands go up
on me, not me.
John C Dvorak: Do you want to
just hire the guy or they fired
from the DEI position? Oh,
Adam Curry: that's, well, you
know, that's, that's not a bad
idea. We have the joy
department. Ooh, Joy Division.
There you go. The Joy Division.
Wasn't that a Nazi thing?
John C Dvorak: The Joy Division,
it all is a Nazi thing. Strength
through joy. Look it up on
Google.
Adam Curry: Well, they've never
actually used that, that slogan,
John C Dvorak: but doesn't
matter. We can say they did.
Adam Curry: I mean, Joy Division
was a band, clear, to be clear,
Joy Division was a band. But I
always thought that the whole
thing was the whole Let me see.
What if I just concert consult
the book of knowledge on Joy
Division Nazis. Maybe that'll
pop up. Let's see what happens.
Joy, Joy Division, it's just
good. It's just good. Joy
Division,
John C Dvorak: they say, hi,
aloha. Do you want to hear a
couple K let's play a couple of
Camel Eclipse. Oh,
Adam Curry: because I have,
yeah. Did you get some from the
interview?
John C Dvorak: I think there's
one in here. Mike, I'm not
seeing it, but I do have one I
want to play. Just. Says in a
warning, a warning shot across
the bow. This was a slight
supercut taken from the Kamala
versus pence debate.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, that's old.
That's very
John C Dvorak: old. It's very
old. It's from 2019 oh, no, no,
2020, and it was, this is what
she's up to when they talk about
the open mics and the closed
mics and this and that. This is
just a super cut of her
interrupting, or her being
interrupted, or claiming to be
interrupted by pence. And it,
and it, unfortunately, this
would be better in video,
because she has a she has this
condescending, you're an idiot.
Look on her face constantly. And
this is, here's the clip, Mr.
Vice
Unknown: President, I'm
speaking. I have I'm speaking.
Mr. Vice President, I'm
speaking.
I'm speaking. Be important if
you said the truth.
Vice President, speaking. I'm
speaking though. Okay, if you
don't mind letting me finish, we
can then have a conversation.
Okay, please. Okay, fine. Answer
you now, do
people deserve a straight
answer? I
will not sit here and be
lectured by the Vice President.
I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to
I will not be lectured by the
Vice President.
Adam Curry: Wow. She she did
that again. She was got heckled
again by Palestinian pro
Palestinian protesters at one of
her JAM PACKED events. Yeah, she
did that again. It's like, I'm
speaking right now. And that's
John C Dvorak: her whole thing.
Her whole bit is Yes, like that.
That is wait. You just
Adam Curry: heard it, yeah,
please wait for the lady I'm
speaking right now. And I'm sure
that's what the September 10
debate will be. Her saying, miss
it. I will not be lectured by a
former president. I'm speaking.
I'm the vice by
John C Dvorak: a felon, a fella
felon. I know felons. I
Unknown: know, I know.
Adam Curry: I know his type
Exactly. It didn't. It didn't
take more than 36 seconds for
her to bring up Trump at the
beginning of that interview. Did
you notice that right here it
is,
Unknown: the voters are really
eager to hear what your plans
are if you are elected, what
would you do on day one in the
White House? Well,
there are a number of things I
will tell you. First and
foremost, one of my highest
priorities, is to do what we can
to support and strengthen the
middle class. When I look at the
aspirations, the goals, the
ambitions of the American
people. I think that people are
ready for a new way forward, in
a way that generations of
Americans have been fueled by,
by hope and by optimism. Here we
go. I think sadly, in the last
decade, we have had in the
former president, someone who
has really been pushing an
agenda and an environment that
is about diminishing the
character and the strength of
who we are as Americans, really
dividing our nation. And I think
people are ready to turn the
page on that? Yeah, yeah, we're
Adam Curry: ready to turn the
page on that. It's really no
substance. I was surprised at
how non substantive her answers
were, even though she was late,
led to an extreme by Dana Bash.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she gave
her a lot of opportunities
Adam Curry: and not a lot of
pushback on things like the
whole Trump says, You black. I
mean, it's only 29 seconds, and
it was over, and that's it. No
further questions.
Unknown: I was a little bit
surprised. People might be
surprised to hear that you have
never interacted with him. Met
him face to face. That's going
to change soon, but what I want
to ask you about is what he said
last month. He suggested that
you happened to turn black
recently for political purposes,
questioning a core part of your
identity,
any same old, tired playbook.
Next question, please.
That's it, that's it,
Adam Curry: that's it, that's
it. Who's in control? Hey, I'm
speaking, and when I'm not
speaking, that's it.
John C Dvorak: Now, yeah, that
was the clip I actually had.
That was a great clip because
she she didn't know what to say.
Well, she hasn't. She had no no
she hadn't even she knew that
had to be coming. And she could
have probably formulated or
worked with people to formulate
something that was really
clever, yeah, but she couldn't
even do that same
Adam Curry: person who who
staged that whole interview, was
doing the answers, I guess, just
say next question. There's no
pass if. Same presidential
interview. You don't get to pass
next question, please. I'll pass
on that question. Diana, but I
have to say she is pretty black.
I mean, she is so black, she
does this. I
Unknown: have a friend who had a
Christmas party Christmas Eve
every year, and she asked me to
make the greens for a party
every year. And I am not lying
to you that I would make so many
greens that I'd need to wash
them in the bathtub. I'm telling
you the truth. So how do you
make your greens? You put Turkey
in them. Bacon. I do bacon,
garlic. I put white vinegar. I
do so I start with, I slice up
my garlic, but no first I fry
chocolate, then bacon, and get
all that fat on. Then I put
garlic, some chili peppers, and
then a lot of water and a little
chicken stock, and I let it go
for a while before I put the
greens in. And then, right, so
you get that going and all that
flavor, and then I put the
greens in for a couple hours.
Then I do vinegar, and then I
cheat and do a little Tabasco.
No, that's okay, but Tabasco, of
all, like, I like Louisiana hot
sauce, but Tabasco has that
right amount of vinegar, yeah,
and that's so that's how I do my
green
Adam Curry: Well, there it is.
Once you bring in the hot sauce
and tabasco, and remember, when
people say, I'm not lying,
that's the truth. They're lying.
It's not the truth. That's
always the case. That's what
kids do. I'm not lying, but I'm
not lying. I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, you are.
John C Dvorak: If she has to
wash that many greens in the
tub,
Adam Curry: yes, I was waiting
for some, some cooking analysis
on this.
John C Dvorak: Thanks. If she
has to wash that many greens in
the tub. What does she cook
these greens? And she must have
the pot the size of Manhattan,
yeah, the biggest pots you can
get on a stove will not I mean,
it doesn't make sense the
volume, because she's talking
about cooking collard greens, or
mustard greens, probably
collards, because that's the
ones you cook for two to three
hours, yeah, to get them to
soften up,
Adam Curry: but wait, she she
lets them sit in the bathtub
first for a couple hours. That,
no,
John C Dvorak: she never said,
really. Said that. Yes, she did.
No, she says she washes them in
the bathtub. Oh, okay, all
right, good point. And the other
woman says, when she started
talking about the boiling water
she's she said a couple hours
she she's just eating up the the
goo, the bacon and the stuff
that's in the water to get it. I
don't know what the point of
that is, a stump, whatever the
case. No, this bull crap. She's
no way. She cooks a tub full of
green. She'd have to do them in
batches. And she never mentioned
anything about doing them in
batches, and where would she put
the cooked greens? But the whole
thing is a joke. She's
Adam Curry: not lying. She's not
lying. She's telling you the
truth. This gaslighting from the
M 5m is the best it's ever been.
It really is.
John C Dvorak: I mean, we've
definitely going to an extreme.
I mean, the walls parted that
interview, I know if you have
any clips from walls, yeah, I
have one. I have one, one clip.
And I mean, his whole idea of
blaming bad he's a teacher, and
he's blaming bad grammar. Here
it is,
Unknown: Governor Walz, the
country is just starting to get
to know you. I want to ask you a
question about how you,
Adam Curry: by the way, talk
about turn that frown upside
down. That guy's mouth is
perpetually weighted down by by
fishing lures or something.
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? I mean he's got that look.
Yeah, it's grim.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Grim
Unknown: described your service
in the National Guard. You said
that you carried weapons in war,
but you have never deployed,
actually in a war zone. A
campaign official said that you
misspoke. Did you Well,
first of all, I'm incredibly
proud. I've done 24 years of
wearing uniform of this country.
Equally proud
John C Dvorak: he wasn't wearing
the uniform for 23 he worked. He
was what they used to be called,
weekend weekend
Adam Curry: warrior. Yes, he on
the weekend. He put the because
he was teaching and being
football coach and whatever
else. He makes it sound
John C Dvorak: like he was in
the army for 24 years. Yes, now
I've had several,
Adam Curry: uh, several
producers write in saying, Hold
on a second. No one's really
saying what this was. Weekend
warrior.
Unknown: I've done 24 years of
wearing uniform of this country,
equally proud of my service in a
public school classroom, whether
it's Congress or the governor,
my record speaks for itself, but
I think people are coming yet to
know me. I speak like they do. I
speak candidly. I wear my
emotions on my sleeves, and I
speak especially passionately
of. Out about our children being
shot in schools and around
around guns. So I think people
know me. They know who I am.
They know where, where my heart
is, and again, my record has
been out there for over 40 years
to speak for itself,
and the idea that you said that
you were in war. So
Adam Curry: this was, I think
this was set up because Dana,
this is not Dana going, Hey, you
didn't answer the question. This
is Dana reminding him, remember
what we rehearsed, remember you
got to answer that one. Remember
the line,
Unknown: the idea that you said
that you were in war. Did you
misspeak, as the campaign has
said, I
said we were talking about, in
this case, this was after a
school shooting, the ideas of
carrying these weapons of war,
and my wife the English telling
my grammar is not always
correct, but again, if it's not
this, it's an attack on my
children for showing love for
me, or it's an attack on my dog.
I'm not going to do that thing.
I'll never do this. I'll never
demean another member's service
in any way. I never have and I
never will.
Adam Curry: Has anyone made fun
of his dog, or is that it
doesn't mean his kid? I mean,
does he think his kid is a dog
or his wife is a dog? I didn't
know he had a dog. Has anyone
made fun of his dog? No, no.
Maybe they have. Maybe we missed
it. Maybe it was an important
media moment. We missed
anything. You know, I was
listening to, and
John C Dvorak: by the way, he
threw that thing out there. He
did besmirch Vance for his
military service. Early on, he
even served. Yes, he did. He's
full of shit. This guy.
Adam Curry: I was listening to
disaffected podcasts with Josh
Slocum. Slocum,
John C Dvorak: I think it is,
and the name is what the
disaffected podcast a great name
for a podcast. It's
Adam Curry: a great podcast
because this is the whole, this
is where I learned about, what's
the B thing I learned so much
about I forgot already, you
know, the mental illness you had
to clip about it, the B, the B,
the not dimension B, oh man. Why
am I like
John C Dvorak: to see you
swinging in the wind? Raise
here. This is, this is going to
go on for a while. I think
Adam Curry: it wasn't vitamin B.
Thank you for being so helpful.
Troll, bipolar, yeah. But it had
a it had a name. It had a name.
Yes, it was borderline. Is under
there? Bipolar, borderline
John C Dvorak: personality
disorder, yeah, but it was, it
was
Adam Curry: something B, ah, I
feel like an idiot anyway. And
he was saying that, you know,
he, he comes from a Cluster B,
thank you, Cluster B. You're the
one that had the clip about
Cluster B, remember,
John C Dvorak: but you were
saying B, B, B, like. It starts
with B, no
Adam Curry: Cluster B, I heard
it from him first, okay, and,
and he said that he observed the
the the arm yank that waltz did
on stage, which I looked at him
like, that seems like the kid
was going to walk into a into a
teleprompter. And he comes from,
Josh comes from a very abusive
household. And he said, Oh no,
this is someone who may be very
different than we think at home.
And I'm not going to say that,
but because I'm going to say
Josh said it, but I wouldn't, I
wouldn't be surprised. Look,
just look at the guy's face. I
mean, I've heard of resting
bitch face, but that's, that's
amazing. What that guy has, you
imagine looking at that
John C Dvorak: you think is an a
hole, possibly? Yeah, well,
possibly. I don't know why you
should be so reluctant to say
that he's just seems like one. I
mean, I have a clip I've been
hanging on to because he keeps
saying, whatever is just a
mistake. And this is where he
can't, you know, he, didn't
retire as Sergeant Major or
whatever. Yeah, he army. He had
the Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor.
He had the he was downgraded
because he never finished.
Adam Curry: He didn't complete
the course, he didn't take the
test. He was not he
John C Dvorak: didn't do it
right so, but he's still taking
credit for it. And so this is a
clip of just a few examples of
his refusing to correct people
who said it, and him saying it
and everything in between. This
is the waltz misspoke, supercut
Unknown: major as a retired
Sergeant Major in the Army
National Guard out of Minnesota,
retired out as Command Sergeant
Major. I spent 24 years in the
military Congressman as a
Command Sergeant Major. I
hope Tim Walz is
one of those everyday people,
coach to the state champs,
Teacher of the Year, Command
Sergeant Major.
I am a retired Command Sergeant
Major in the Minnesota National
Guard. I am retired Sergeant
Major in the Army National
Guard, what I consider to be the
responsibility and the privilege
of being the highest ranking
enlisted personnel ever to serve
in Congress and Democrats. What
rank was that? Command Sergeant
Major?
So when you first came
to Washington, you were a
retired Command Sergeant Major
in the Army National Guard. So I
was an enlisted soldier for all
those years and care of true.
And making sure they have the
right equipment is is paramount.
So he's a
coach to the State football
champs, and he's a command
sergeant major in the Army
National Guard. And I introduce
you my favorite coworker who
achieved the rank of Command
Sergeant Major in the Army
National Guard, and someone who
proudly wears the Red Bull
whenever he can. So please join
me in welcoming our governor, a
veteran, Governor DeWalt 17
served
24 years, including not racist
during freedom retirees, which
makes it the highest rank for
listed
Adam Curry: and the one you've
been hanging on to it was
almost, almost unintelligible.
John C Dvorak: Well, it falls
apart, yes, but what's so to me?
But it's obvious what's what
he's up to. Well, he's a liar.
Well,
Adam Curry: it's fascinating,
because if you went out on the
streets of America to man on the
street before Walt's, no one
would have even known of the
rank, command assert, Sergeant
Major. I didn't you know
Lieutenant Serge, maybe Sergeant
Command Sergeant Major. I don't
think anyone would have known
about it. Now, everyone's like,
Oh, he's Command Sergeant Major.
That's how it works. And and I
will have to say that the the M
5m reach is pretty large because
it's, it's, it's put online.
That's where it gets traction.
And that's how we also get
traction for the horrible JD
Vance, you know, he, he, Oh, my
Lord, He is so mean to women. He
hates women. In fact, he hates
women so much, his example of
dumb women could make you John C
Dvorak, Vice President. Let's
Unknown: start with JD Vance, of
course, Trump's running mate.
Last night, he posted an old
viral video on x of a teenage
beauty contestant who badly
flubbed a question, and he wrote
breaking I have gotten a hold of
the full Kamala Harris CNN
interview, and that post, in and
of itself, trades on, of course,
misogynist and reductive tropes
about beauty queens being stupid
and insinuating that Harris, by
extension, fits in this
category. So this morning, when
he was told that the young
contestant in that video,
Caitlin Upton, was traumatized
by how that embarrassing moment
was so widely shared back in
2007 and even contemplated
suicide. JD Vance said this,
politics has gotten way too
lame. John, way too boring. You
can have some fun while making a
good argument to the American
people about how you're going to
improve their lives. I'm not
going to apologize for posting a
joke, but I wish the best for
Caitlin. I hope that she's doing
well. And again, what I'd say is
one bad moment shouldn't define
anybody, and the best way to
deal with this stuff is to laugh
at ourselves.
Of course, the trouble with that
answer is that Vance isn't
laughing at himself, the optics,
if you parse it, he's making a
joke about a woman at the
expense of another woman. Oh,
Adam Curry: oh no, it's a double
whammy harsh this.
John C Dvorak: Oh brother. He's
really a nice guy, and he's
trying to do his best there. And
I think he did well. And then
all of a sudden, you turn that
on, turn it back on.
Adam Curry: Him making fun of a
woman at the expense of another
woman. Well, let's double down.
Recent
Unknown: polls have shown a
fifth of Americans can't locate
the US on a world map. Why do
you think this is
I personally believe that us
Americans are unable to do so
because some people out there in
our nation don't have maps, and
I believe that our education,
like such as in South Africa and
the Iraq everywhere, like such
as and I believe that they
should our education over here
in the US should help the US, or
should Help South Africa. It
should help the Iraq and the
Asian countries, so we will be
able to build up our future for
our children. Thank you very
much, South Carolina.
Adam Curry: So this is the so JD
Vance, the guy that Tim walls
can't help saying he had or
insinuating he had sex with his
couch, which is also funny.
John C Dvorak: It's funny and
total bull crap. Yeah, it was
just dreamed up by a comedian,
basically. But
Adam Curry: then, but then, wait
another JCD moment, because how
many times have you not said at
least half of this joke? And
Unknown: that is not the only
post that's getting this team
into hot water. One post in
particular shared by Donald
Trump, a photo of Hillary
Clinton and Kamala Harris. And
I'm going to warn you now that
the joke attached to it is very
vulgar. So if you have little
ones that don't want to hear
this, just sort of turn off the
TV. This is your moment. It
basically says it's funny how
blow jobs impacted both. Of
their careers differently. That,
of course, a reference to Bill
Clinton's inappropriate behavior
with a White House intern, as
well as an insinuation that
Harris slept her way to a
position of influence. So none
of that likely to win over many
women voters.
Adam Curry: What I think lots of
women would be like, hey, good
point. Yeah, we've gone, we've
sunk to a new low in politics.
Unbelievable.
John C Dvorak: No, it's
completely You're right. I do
that gag. I don't do it that
much, but I have done that gag
at least 20 I've made mention,
yeah, usually with the timing,
with the purpose of timing
correct, to get a cheap laugh
from you, and it always works.
It tends to work, which is
pathetic on your part.
Unknown: I'm blaming you for
Adam Curry: this. Hey, you're
making fun of me at the expense
of someone else. Now I don't
know this is
John C Dvorak: wrong. Yeah, it's
terrible that people do that.
It's
Adam Curry: wrong. Yeah. Hmm,
that's hilarious. I'm glad that
we there's material here,
though, but it's just, is that
really the level? If anything,
the whole point is to make
people tune out. I think, yeah,
just tune out. Who cares? I have
just one final thing I've got
John C Dvorak: to want to
mention something else, this
vibe, Joy vibe thing, or the
doll we don't need policy. We
just needed vibe versus like
that. Woman is not likable. She
is arrogant, condescending,
patronizing. She is she's glib.
She has a these looks on her
face that she develops around
people. She's borderline anti
social. It's just, I don't see
what, what the appeal is. These
guys have got to be biting their
tongue constantly when they're
because they have to Democrat,
once a Democrat, always a
Democrat. This,
Adam Curry: no, this is not
Democrat. This is this is just
their job. This is what they're
paid to do. They're part of the
system. It's just, it's what it
is. It's what you do when the
system is threatened, which it
clearly is by Trump and Bobby D
op. Who is he belongs in a loony
bin? Oh, someone sent me the
clip. Where is it? Here, I still
don't have the Axelrod clip,
which is really the best one, if
anyone can find that someone did
send me the James Carville clip
calling Bobby The Opera a nut
job.
Unknown: I really feel sorry for
the Kennedy family, because I
remind them you can pick your
friends, you can't pick your
relatives, and if Bobby Kennedy
lived in a rocky mountain
country, they would have him in
a nice rubber room and, you
know, three hots and a cotton
take care of this guy. He's no
business being out on the
street, mixing and mingling with
people. But this is where we
are. In this country. We have a
mental health crisis.
Adam Curry: Mental Health
Crisis, Bobby, the up is part of
the mental health crisis. So
then we, we get Ari Melber,
Harry Melber, you know, you
know, he's
John C Dvorak: a lawyer, Mr.
Five o'clock shadow, hip hop
expert.
Adam Curry: He's always doing
Hip Hop lyrics in the in the
great, in the great words of
fill in the blank flavor, flav
of Public Enemy, the guy with
the gold tooth and the big clock
around his neck. And it'll cite
some rap lyrics. So supposedly,
he made fun of which they were
all doing. And by the way, we
made fun of it too of Trump
would come out with a giant, a
giant, you know, pad on his ear
at the RNC, which he kind of,
did, you know, giant, giant
gauze predicted? Yeah, we were
talking. I mean, there were
jokes everywhere, like a big my
pillow on his head. And it was
kind of a joke at the RNC people
had big, big pads on their head,
out of solidarity. So Corey
Lewandowski, is he back on the
scene? Isn't this the guy who
was Trump's campaign manager,
but then he got kicked out
because he roughed up some, some
journalist, he's
John C Dvorak: the one. Yes,
he's the one. And he is kind of
back, but he's not back in the
in the position he used to be.
Yeah, he's the one, if you
recall, he didn't do anything to
any journalist. He kind of, kind
of tapped somebody on the
shoulder and told her to move
aside. And then Ben Shapiro,
who, at the time, hated Trump,
made a big stink about it.
Because Shapiro, I believe, was
working for Breitbart, and he
wanted to do his own thing, and
so he made a big stink about
Lewandowski beating up this poor
woman, and him and the woman
started their own operation,
Daily Caller, or whatever the
hell it is, daily wire, daily,
daily
Adam Curry: wire, yeah,
whatever. But, but she had a
bruise. I remember her showing
her. Her whole arm was bruised.
John C Dvorak: It was a the
whole thing. Was a scam, and I
really lost a lot of respect for
Shapiro at the time, because it
was obvious that he was in on it
to make a fuss so he could start
his own thing. So he had an
excuse to quit. Buck Breitbart,
Adam Curry: well, so Corey
Lewandowski is on MSNBC for some
reason, and he gets into it with
Ari Melbourne, Ari melbers
pushing back. And it was just,
this was really good television.
I
Unknown: do want to turn to
something that came up in the
last time we did an interview,
and it's been a few years,
you're back here as
representative of the campaign.
That's a way back. Machine
baby, okay,
Adam Curry: wait a minute. He's
back as representative of the
campaign, and is, and the first
thing he says is, Whoo, that's a
way back. Machine baby, okay.
Trump, fire this guy.
John C Dvorak: It's pretty bad.
Can
Adam Curry: someone please get
rid of Lewandowski? Well,
Unknown: Corey, when you were on
here, we asked you, point blank
about these reports that Donald
Trump as president had tried to
use you as a kind of improper
cutout to shut down an open
federal probe, which is a big
deal. We have some headlines on
that, and we asked you about at
Adam Curry: the time, what
federal probe? What was that? I
don't remember you. Now, I
Unknown: want to turn to this to
deal with the first time you've
been back since then. Do you
want to state for the record
that what you stated on air was
false, because people are
listening to you about the
campaign, and why should they
believe you if you're lying
about other things?
Adam Curry: This is great. It's
like, hey, camel lied for 18
minutes. So we're gonna, we're
gonna make a fuss about you
lying. Four years ago.
John C Dvorak: Ari, if we're
going around the road, are you
gonna state that Donald Trump
had a bandage on his ear just
for a spectacle? Are you gonna
say that that was false? The guy
got shot in the head, and you
said the only reason he had a
bandage on his ear, I can read
you the quote if you want
deflection that you said it was
just respecting so if you
Unknown: want to answer the
question, Corey Ari, you're not
take back your statement. I know
what you're referring to, and at
the end of the interview, we can
touch base on that. We're going
to finish this question. I will
return to that. This
Adam Curry: is, you know, I
hope, just for the show sake
that Louie, Louie, Louie
corindowski, Corey Lewandowski,
he's now, from now on, he's
Louie Corin doski, Louis, he's,
I hope Lou Louie will be press
secretary. Please. We have
John C Dvorak: now Now, yes,
Adam Curry: yes. There it is.
John C Dvorak: That would be
fantastic. Well,
Adam Curry: wait until you hear
what we're going to have for the
next four more years. You're
Unknown: clear. I gave you time.
I didn't lead with this. I gave
you time to talk about 2024 you
got that time, and this is now
your chance to address this. And
you're not addressing that's
fine. Ari,
you're not addressing the
interview.
I'm me to respond? I'm gonna I'm
gonna respond to you on
Adam Curry: live air. Oh, boy,
oh, I have to turn it up. I'm
gonna spawn respond to you on
live air or live air. A
Unknown: New York Times article
that said at the convention.
Donald Trump was his own biggest
prop. It was a New York Times
quote about how he let me how he
had become such an important
figure in rebounding from what
was a horrific assassination
attempt. Fox News, Cory, I said
I'd address it. I'm going to
finish Fox News. Many viewers
may not know about this, but
apparently you do, and some do,
Fox News which has been caught
in defamation ran a false peace
defamation, falsely stating
that, wait
Adam Curry: a minute, Fox News
which has been caught in
defamation so that that would
that would pertain to the
Dominion voting machines case,
or it has to what else would it
be? So? So Fox News, no good,
Unknown: falsely stating that I
said something else that I
didn't say. So I stand on that.
I stand on the New York you
didn't say
this
bandage was a proper spectacle
from a candidate with
spectacles, Mr. Landowski
Adam Curry: brought out the Mr.
Mr. Louis.
Unknown: And if you, I'm putting
you on notice. If you continue
to,
Adam Curry: oh, no, he's being
put on notice by Ari Melbourne.
Oh, this is bad. I'm putting you
Unknown: on notice. If you
continue to repeat falsely that
I said that you will be
potentially in a defamation
situation. I'm gonna sue your
ass buddy, because I didn't say
that. But I understand that
you're working off the
John C Dvorak: internet.
Definitely misquoting somebody's
not defamation. He's full of
shit, this guy, but
Adam Curry: Ari knows rap lyrics
So, so okay, that
Unknown: I said that you will be
potentially in a defamation
situation because I didn't say
that, but I understand that
you're working off the internet,
which is a lot of false
information. With that and Corey
Lewandowski, we gave you time. I
appreciate you coming to prison
for that. Thank you for joining
Adam Curry: me. Oh, hung up on
him. Rage Quit. Oh, man, please,
please, Mr. Trump, make him your
press secretary. So good. What
is that guy doing? And wasn't
he? Remember he was banging
Christy Nome.
Unknown: Lewandowski,
Adam Curry: I think so. Oh,
John C Dvorak: no, way, yes,
yes, way,
Adam Curry: Lou and dowski
Gnome, think so.
John C Dvorak: I don't think
yes, thank you. Christy GNOME,
Adam Curry: Corey Lewandowski
affair, shakes up. Trump here.
Yes, they even had a clip about
it then, Lewis,
John C Dvorak: you had been the
guy who gave her the the tip, if
she doesn't want to be vice
president, shoot your dog. Shoot
Adam Curry: your dog. Yes, that
yes, that's right,
John C Dvorak: wow. That's a,
that's a that's wild,
Adam Curry: yep, yep, yeah, we
how much we forget, but not our
trolls. Our trolls remember
these things because I would
never say banging, that came
from the troll room. Obviously,
John C Dvorak: banging. That's
not a British troll. They say
shagging, shagging.
Adam Curry: That's what I should
have said, shagging. You're
right. Final thing on this from
on the the CNN interview, this
is the overview from NBC
perspective. Who did not get the
exclusive? You know, Dana Bash
is now promoting her book,
coincidentally, and I heard her
this morning talking about,
what's
John C Dvorak: your book? He's
gonna read a Dinah bash book.
Well,
Adam Curry: I mean, someone's
gonna buy it. It's America's
deadliest election, the
cautionary tale of the most
violent election in American
history, and that is actually
the violent election of 1872
John C Dvorak: but that will be
fascinating, a fascinating read
from a news anchor on CNN about
the historic events of 1872 I
don't think so.
Adam Curry: The entire country
watched in grim fascination as
the wounds of the Civil War were
ripped open, and the promise of
President
John C Dvorak: Grant, we're
watching TV,
Adam Curry: and President
Grant's reconstruction faltered
in the face of violent
resistance and the birth of the
Ku Klux Klan. Here we go. You
see, do you see what this going
on here? In this riveting book,
according to Amazon, Dana Bash
and David Fisher, the guy who
wrote the book, obviously, David
Fisher tell the incredible,
little known story of the
election. O'Reilly, yes, little
known story of the election that
pushed democracy to the breaking
point and sparked historic
events. Now you're a historian.
Do you remember the historic
events of the 1872 election? It
was just a little kid the
Colfax, the Colfax massacre,
which at least 150 black men
were killed by white
supremacists, also known as
Maga, the extraordinary, the
extraordinary train race from
New York to New Orleans for
control of the state government.
They still have the same train
running there, the election of
the first black congressman from
from Louisiana in the face of
violent resistance and the
John C Dvorak: black a black
Republican, I might add, thank
Adam Curry: you. The Supreme
Court ruling that ended
reconstruction became the
foundation of southern
segregation, changing the
American legal system for the
next century. I mean, this is so
planned, and that Dan is saying
on her own station. And mind
you, oh, it's been quite a week.
It's been, I mean, I've barely
got any sleep. I had you this
incredibly, you know this, it
was just exciting interview all
18 it was, you know, maybe the
whole she was interviewing for
the whole week to get those 18
minutes, I don't know. Ah, yes.
John C Dvorak: Well that I want
to play a couple of things here,
but I doubt you brought that
1872 thing up. I would, I
wouldn't mind playing these,
these clips about Christian
nationalism, which is also
playing. Here we go. This is the
same, the same thing. What you
just cited. This is all part.
It's like the Reagan movie
coming out, and movie, yeah,
it's all both sides are, you
know, vying for for attention
and but this is the most
pathetic one. And this is a
Adam Curry: now repeat that. So
this is, this is my beat here.
Yeah, I'm planning
John C Dvorak: to miss this. You
step on my beat all the time. So
I didn't have any problem going
into No, you go for you go girl.
But it was, this was on NPR, and
the subtext is that, sorry,
you'll hear the subtext right
away, but it's just so it's just
an anti Trump without ever
mentioning Trump ever kind of a
and it's so. So dumb it this is
incredibly dumb. This is a NPR
special report on Christian
nationalism. I actually cut I
have five short clips. I
actually had to cut it off
because it continued for another
10 minutes and it was just more
than I could take. But let's
play just start with clip one,
elitist
Unknown: voices of America. This
is NPR. Christian
nationalism is a movement that
has gained momentum in
conservative circles in recent
years. The basic idea is a blend
of government and religion,
specifically Christianity, that
is way more explicit and intense
than it has typically been the
case throughout American
history. What
Adam Curry: now I'm gonna have
to interrupt these from time to
time. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you should
interrupt because that, what he
just said, is nonsense. There
used to be a revivalist moments
in history that were outrageous.
And if you go back this was,
this is, and when you start to
hear the numbers he throws out
of the number of people that are
involved in one thing or
another. Here it's, it's
ridiculously low. But okay, here
we go. Let's hear that again. I
Adam Curry: gotta hear it again.
It's the basic
Unknown: idea is a blend of
government and religion,
specifically Christianity, that
is way more explicit and intense
than it has typically been the
case throughout American
history,
Adam Curry: except for the
actual beginning of it, but
okay,
Unknown: new public radio
podcast takes a look. Oh, it's
Adam Curry: a podcast. Oh, this
wasn't on the air. Yes, it was.
He says, new public radio,
John C Dvorak: no, okay, I
pulled this right off of the on
the air feed. He's referring to
a podcast that talks about this.
I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. All
right. I strike that from the
record. The jury will disregard
my remark. The
Unknown: case throughout
American history. A new public
radio podcast takes a look
inside the Christian nationalist
movement. It's called extremely
American Onward Christian
Soldiers. Here's host Heath
druzen and reporter James Dawson
from Boise State Public Radio.
I'm talking to Gabriel rich, a
media personality and activist
in Idaho. Most people call him
Gabe. Okay, great. Gabe has a
lot of ideas about how America
should change. He said it would
probably take a long time, but
that you would like to see only
Christians be able to run for
office. So if you're Jewish, if
you're Muslim, if you're
atheist, certainly, if I had you
right, you said that, yes, you
would. You would support
eventually that them not being
allowed to run for office.
That's
Adam Curry: correct. I did say
that because Gabe, is it? So
this guy? Where do they dig this
guy up? What's his name? What's
his last name? Gabe. This is
Gabe from Idaho. I'm surprised I
don't have him on my in my
podcast app. I
John C Dvorak: think he should
be. He's not on your phone with
you. Push a button you call
Adam Curry: him. Hey, Gabe,
let's get all them Muslims out
of Congress. Man, this no good.
This is, this is what the Lord
wants. I did say that
Unknown: because Gabe is a proud
Christian nationalist.
Adam Curry: I think that the
Christian faith is the ideal
John C Dvorak: stop again. You
have to and back it up. This guy
is so adenoidal. It's like, if I
had a talk, I was gonna talk
like this, because I can't
really breathe through my dose.
I'm not absolutely sure why, but
it just can't get any air out.
What's
Adam Curry: it what is his name?
Gabe, right. What is his name?
John C Dvorak: Gabe some. Well,
I
Adam Curry: gotta find him. I
mean, I'm looking in
John C Dvorak: the definitely,
definitely, Gabe
Adam Curry: wrench, okay, Gabe
wrench, are not with a W, I'm
just looking at his website.
John C Dvorak: Dave wrench,
wrench,
Adam Curry: r, e, n, C, H, like
French without the F. This is a
good old boy. He's got his hat
on. He's sitting in his rocking
chair on the porch with a cigar
and
John C Dvorak: his big cigar, a
smoker and a drinker and
Adam Curry: a Texas mug, even
though he's in Boise. Okay, here
we go. I did say that, because
Unknown: Gabe is a proud
Christian nationalist,
Adam Curry: I think that the
Christian faith is the ideal
moral doctrine and principles
for a thriving society. And the
farther you get away from that,
the more in chaos we descend.
And so the only way to maintain
that, or one of the ways
maintain that is you have to
have people who are running for
office who believe that, or
you're gonna get back into that
chaotic decline. That doesn't
mean that they can't be agnostic
or, you know, or atheists. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry, chaotic
decline.
Unknown: So I'll tell you
straight up as a Jewish
American. Oh, there it is that I
can't run for office. Other non
Christians can't. And I have to
admit, it's a little terrifying
to me, because to me, that means
a fundamental freedom of mine in
this theoretical world is gone.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so what is
this? Where do they dig this guy
up? This is great
John C Dvorak: well as this is
what you do, because it's to
scare the NPR audience into
thinking, this is what's going
on with Trump. Oh, my Lord,
Trump doesn't want Jews, but the
office Trump doesn't want any
Muslims, or anybody, or or the
atheists that run the country,
they don't want to know. This is
what you're going to get. You're
going to get because but you
find some guy like this. This is
so this reminds me of the old
trick where you you set up a
debate with two people, and you
pick both of them, yeah, and you
have one guy who's on your side,
and he's very reasonable, smart
guy, and then you bring the
dumbest weirdo that you can
think of, and put that person on
the other side, and have them do
a debate in public, and then see
what happens. This is, this is a
setup. The only,
Adam Curry: the only thing that,
that, I think, is, you know,
Christian nationalism is, you
know, the so called Judeo, by
the way, note the term Judeo
Christian values, which our
constitution is derived from,
basically the 10 Commandments.
And the founders were were all
into it, but I don't think the
first in the Bill of Rights is
like first amendments, like
freedom of religion. There's no
and it doesn't explicit there,
explicitly stating no religious
test. Did that come up in this
interview? No, yeah, you're
saying that in a country where
you experience all these immense
freedoms that was built on the
Unknown: Christian faith, so
where I can run for office right
now? Yeah, because your
worldview is not good for
society. So
Gabe wants biblical law to apply
to everyone. That means a lot
less democracy, especially for
non Christians like me,
Adam Curry: this is great
biblical law that means a lot
less democracy. Okay,
Unknown: I should probably pause
a moment here to acknowledge the
bizarre journey I've been on for
the past year. Please do I've
mentioned before that I'm
Jewish, and it has been surreal,
dude.
John C Dvorak: Hey, tell us
again. Are you I've mentioned
Unknown: before that I'm Jewish,
and it has been surreal to be
immersed in this world of
Christian nationalism.
Adam Curry: Well, Jews don't
believe in Jesus, so let's start
there. Don't
Unknown: get me wrong, people
like Gabe have been unfailingly
polite, which frankly, makes it
weirder, weirder and being
politely told I don't deserve
key rights. But the reason I'm
here listening to Gabe explain
why I should lose my rights is
not to feel uncomfortable. It's
because plenty of people agree
with him.
Adam Curry: Oh, so that's make
that you're supposed to make the
listener feel uncomfortable.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and plenty
of plenty with this guy. And
notice, and by the way, they're
all Trump voters.
Adam Curry: And notice the key
term weird being slipped in
there. Yes,
John C Dvorak: he slipped that
in. The whole thing is, this is
an anti Trump presentation that
is all subtext, subtextual, and
it is extremely subversive, and
I it it's disgusting, it's
disgusting, and it's basically a
lie. But let's continue. There's
all kinds of people that would
think, just like this guy,
there's more. There's more.
Unknown: Gabe is part of a
younger vanguard of Christian
nationalists trying to make
their vision a reality, and
they're spreading their word
through popular streaming shows,
including gabe's creation cross
politic.
Adam Curry: Merry Christmas.
Could not wait. They couldn't
get a more recent version. They
had to get, they had to take the
Merry Christmas show. Is that I
John C Dvorak: don't know what
they're doing. Interesting.
Adam Curry: Merry Christmas.
Welcome to cross politic. I
could not wait for the weekend
to end.
Unknown: Across now to begin.
Cross
politic is a mash up of
fundamentalist religion,
politics and drinking.
Adam Curry: They're all drunks,
so it's kind of faster paced
show, and, you know, a little
rough around the edges. So I
think that's attractive to a
younger generation. Our music,
you know, is a little more hard
hitting.
Unknown: These aren't the mega
church pastors of your with
their faith healing and fire and
brimstone, those guys focused on
arena size. Gabe and his allies,
he's popular, streaming, savvy,
yeah,
John C Dvorak: straight out
going on. Uh, this guy doesn't
know what he's talking about.
Uh, mega churches do anything
but, but Byron, exactly.
Adam Curry: That's as much
smaller churches do that kind of
stuff? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, the mega
churches are based are
entertainment vehicles. They're
they have large audiences, and
they put on a show correct, and
it's a good show. So this guy
doesn't know what he's saying.
But okay, we're going to
generalize based on the fact
that you don't know what you're
talking about. But let's
continue, because this. Is
really not about that anyway.
It's about Trump.
Unknown: Those guys focused on
arena sized church crowds, Gabe
and his allies use popular
streaming shows and savvy social
media. They have followers
around the country. They write
books extolling the patriarchy,
and want their followers to get
political. Well, hold
Adam Curry: on, what books
extolling the patriarchy? This
is this. They write books
extolling the
John C Dvorak: patriarchy. Yeah,
The
Adam Curry: Handmaid's Tale
project 2025 they
Unknown: have followers around
the country. They write books
extolling the patriarchy. And
want their followers to get
political and get more Christ
into government.
They love to get into my tribe,
your tribe, tribalism and all
sorts of nonsense.
Gabe and his Christian
nationalist peers are a whiskey
drinking, cigar smoking set that
favor expensive boots and well
quaffed hair. Oh, yes, you Adam
Adam Curry: me. Well, expensive
boots and well quaffed hair. Oh,
oh, hey, maybe you know, just
thinking back to that opening
where he says, Yes, I did say
that. It sounds like that might
have been something that was
taken out of context. Is that
possible? No, no, no, no. Gabe
means it. V means it. No Jews in
Congress, too many of them.
Sounds about right for the
Christian nationalism. What clip
are we on? We're on four kick.
Art says, okay,
John C Dvorak: yeah. Play, yeah,
play, please.
Unknown: What we drinking? Um,
this is uh, Clinton fittic, 14
Adam Curry: year. I don't know
if this is what from a listener.
Hold on a second. What kind of
Merkin is that drinking that
Fern whiskey, single malt, no
less. What happened to Jack baby
kind
Unknown: of hipster theocrats
with a distinctly bro motif and
business is good. These guys
have popular books, a large
podcast and a YouTube channel
with about 20,000 subscribers. I
ah,
Adam Curry: 20,000 subscribers
on YouTube. Well, yeah, wow,
they're rocking it, and they're
marching on their they're
marching their way to
Washington, DC, everybody. So
John C Dvorak: when I heard
that's obviously why I cut this
one short, I
Adam Curry: can't wait to be on
this guy's podcast.
John C Dvorak: This guy is, is a
loser. And, you know, 20,000 uh,
subscribers on YouTube is not
falling off. That's not even
falling off a log. That's the
algo just signing up.
Adam Curry: The algos barely hit
you with that. So,
John C Dvorak: so this is a, an
extreme this, this presentation
on NPR, very pathetic, is what,
what this is. It's, it's
pathetic, but it's, it probably
works, because the NPR people
are so naive and dumb the
listeners. And by the way, if
anyone's sending money to these,
these folks, please send it far
away instead, because you're
getting real information, as
opposed to, this is essentially
a lie, what this presentation
is. Yeah, there it is, 20,000
Oh, they've got popular books, a
big, popular podcast, and 20,000
subscribers on YouTube. This is,
like the typical one of these
shows, like, what do you think
Jordan Peterson's got to get
what? 5 million people on
YouTube. I mean, now
Adam Curry: this Gabe guy has
written exactly zero books. He
hasn't written any books, at
least not.
John C Dvorak: Oh, you're,
you're on his web page. Yeah, he
would have his books listed,
yeah. He
Adam Curry: says, my writings,
and it's just blog posts.
There's no books about me. Now,
let's read about me. He was born
in the promised lands of Texas.
Six states later, he ended up in
Moscow, Idaho. Can't believe
you're in some commie named
town. He graduated. He graduated
from the University of Idaho.
Man, although I will say, if you
look at his family, good looking
family, but he literally has the
girls dressed up in Handmaid's
Tale outfits.
John C Dvorak: This whole thing
sounds fixed. It
Adam Curry: does Okay, all
right. Last clip is a word from
Texas. And
Unknown: each year, leading
Christian nationalist thinkers
as well as rank and file
believers gather at a
conference. As
Adam Curry: soon as I walked on
campus, someone handed me a
glass of whiskey, and I was
like, All right, I'm at the
fight laugh feast conference.
Now it's official. It's
official.
Unknown: This is gabe's
creation, but one of the ways
fight laugh feast is four days
of fundamentalist Christians
talking to Christians about
being Christian. One of
Adam Curry: the gifts that God
has given us is to be able to
kind of be a place where we
could bring like minded
Christians together.
Unknown: So journey and I went
church, anybody flew across the
country to where Gabe and his
compatriots were brainstorming a
Christian takeover of America.
We're in the Northern Kentucky
countryside. The landscape
is rolling and wooded with lots
of farms and of course.
Distilleries. But we're not here
just as an excuse to go bourbon
tasting. We're here to attend
fight, laugh, feast. The theme
is the politics of the six days
of creation. This, of course, is
the granddaddy of Bible verses,
Genesis. One in the beginning,
God created the heavens and the
earth. From there, each day, God
creates a new facet of the
earth. And on the seventh day,
he rests. And yeah, Christian
nationalists definitely go with
he creation
in six days,
Adam Curry: those dirty
Christian nationalists,
Patriarch, Patriarch. God is a
he? Oh no, creation in
Unknown: six days, a gigantic
floating zoo with giraffes
sticking their heads out the
windows, burning bushes,
donkeys, dragons and unicorns.
Resurrection from the dead.
Yeah, we believe all of
Adam Curry: it. Oh, man, this is
so awesome. Well, I'm sure
people are shaking in their
boots. You really think that
works? Yeah, I don't think. I
think what they did wrong is
they took it into they keep
saying some backwoods and, you
know, people don't care about
that they care about if it's in
Boise, no. Well, figure wrong.
That's pretty
John C Dvorak: funny. I think
this and it continues. They went
on and on about unicorns,
actually.
Adam Curry: And I have not had,
I gotta ask pastor Jimmy for the
unicorn sermon,
John C Dvorak: yeah. And they
then they cited the Bible talks
about unicorns X number of
times. And they're obviously,
and these guys are big believers
in the unicorn, and it goes on
and on again. Just after a
while, I had to cut it off
because it was, like,
ridiculous. But this is a
propagandistic technique that
they like to use at NPR of
creating a bogus world that is a
threat to you, yeah. And this is
very, you know, this is this, I
mean little. I mean, cult. Did
they do
Adam Curry: a whole series on
the Jews in the tunnels in New
York? Or did this guy not cover
that if you wanted, if you
wanted to
John C Dvorak: know, probably
did. But the point is, this is,
like, all very subtle to me,
subtle. Anti Trump propaganda,
anti subtle. It's Republican.
It's not so subtle at all. I
consider it to be subtle. And if
you're a believer of the
Democrat side of things, and
you're listening to this, you're
not noticing that, you're just
appalled. It's make you
appalled, and then to make you
connected to the Yeah. Why you
appalled? Well, because of the
patriarchy and unified you
appalled. Well, it's because
these Christian nut cases that
are all voting for Trump. Yeah.
They're a threat to democracy.
Yeah. The whole thing is really
Adam Curry: Trump is begging
them to come out and vote,
please, CD. CD is a good word.
Wow. Well, seems to be a lack of
history of the country the way
he's presenting it. But okay,
John C Dvorak: it is, of course,
because they're not teaching
anybody anything in schools
except gender affirming care.
Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of such
and the patriarchy. CBC, over
there in Scandinavia, which of
course, is our beta test ground,
they've introduced a new term to
the lexicon. It's not a new
term, but in this context, it
was new to me. Good evening. We
Unknown: begin tonight with the
latest on a murder investigation
in the city's west end. A 47
year old woman is dead after
police were called to a home in
a rural area early yesterday
evening, her 55 year old husband
is now charged with second
degree murder, and Ottawa police
are calling the murder a
femicide, a rare use of the
label by the service femicide
described as the killing of a
woman or girl by a man,
Adam Curry: femicide,
John C Dvorak: femicide was
bringing that in. Well,
Adam Curry: here's a brief
explanation.
Unknown: Police say her death
was related to an alleged act of
intimate partner violence. The
details determined that it met
the criteria for femicide.
Femicide is really about women
and girls who are murdered for
their gender and usually for
misogynistic reasons.
Adam Curry: Wow, femicide. But
let's call abortion choice and
not infanticide. They hate to be
doing that, but it's just, it's
okay. We're in, we're in crazy
times, man, crazy. It's
John C Dvorak: just crazy. It's
crazy down,
Adam Curry: crazy town. I don't
know what to make of it. So
crazy. Well, let's see. I could
make it a little bit crazier.
But. By bringing you. Okay, here
we go. Let's start. Let's just
ease into it. Let's ease into
it, because France is very
concerned about their flamingos.
Did you were you aware of
France, France's flamingos? Not
at all. Neither was I. I was
very, very surprised about the
love of the French flamingos
shimmering
Unknown: planes and lagoons. As
far as the eye can see in the
southwesterly corner of France's
Mediterranean coastline, these
elegant silhouettes streak
across the horizon an iconic
part of the landscape. Some 5000
Pink Flamingos live in and
around the salt marshes,
performing their nightly ballet
for these delighted tourists,
captivated by the natural
spectacle, they're so endearing.
Their colors, the way they fly
and the way they move in a
group, has been an inch divide
in this region for 12 years.
He's an expert in Flamingo
behavior.
Diet, small varieties of
seaweed, or shrimp. Planktonite
are readily available in large
quantities, and that's what they
eat.
Yet this diet's part of a
delicate balancing act. As
global warming causes water
levels to rise, the fear is that
these planes could flood,
submerging the landscape and
making it uninhabitable for the
birds.
Adam Curry: So nothing's
happened. The birds are fine,
but because of climate change,
you could lose your flamingos,
which I guess, is the national
bird of France,
Unknown: due to climate change.
Adam Curry: So due to climate
change, this was a beautiful
promo that I came across, and
it's a special that I must
watch. It's from Channel Five in
the UK. Do you remember 1976 in
the UK? What happened in the UK
John C Dvorak: in 76 in the UK?
And I
Adam Curry: didn't remember I
was in Holland. So I think I
remember this part of that was
in Holland too. But does
John C Dvorak: that something to
do with Yoko
Adam Curry: close in 1976
Unknown: the UK was one of the
hottest places on earth. You
never saw a cloud. It was like
living in the Mediterranean.
Imagine a summer when Britain
ran out of water. Well, the flow
of the Thames has now, in fact,
stopped. The perception
of England
was that it always rain,
temperatures reaching 36 degrees
centigrade, lasting for 10 long
weeks. All of a sudden we were
into a parallel universe
and
45 days without a drop of rain.
To ask for two solid weeks of
rain is like crying for the
moon. That's when we started to
take it very seriously, leading
to the most devastating drought
for 250
years. Water supplied to this
area will be constructed between
the hours of 12pm
I'd taken water for granted all
my life. I think it really
drought for minutes, worse than
the war in there, it was, Oh, my
God, this is the like of which
we've never known. But as Brits,
rose to the challenge. I never
actually bathed with a friend
because I didn't have a friend
at the time I fancied enough to
have a bath with for kids, it
was a summer that seemed to last
forever. We
just played out. I just remember
Yeah, with unalloyed happiness,
were
these the most Halcyon Days in
British history? Everyone was
stripping off. It was just
bliss. Everyone was popping off
with absolutely everyone. But
when the weather finally broke,
grid plopping drops of rain,
ending
months of communal standpipes
for millions of bricks, society
would never be the same again.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is a
great report. The Thames dried
up in 1976 people hadn't there
was no water. It was worse than
the war, and the kids loved it.
They weren't being told to be
afraid of climate change, and
they were taking baths together.
It was great. No one really
talks about the summer of 1976
now do they?
John C Dvorak: No, why would
they? It makes it, makes it
falls out of the timeline that
you want. But something
happened. This happened again in
the 80s, because I remember
going to England with Mimi and
and the it was another one of
these weird droughts, 80, I'm
Adam Curry: going to say 80,
1980 itself, maybe, maybe was it
really? It
John C Dvorak: could be. But
whatever the case, it was a
probably wasn't 1980 or later.
Yeah, but it was the Hyde Park
was dead, dead. The grass was
all brown. It was all it was
just like 76 problem. This
happens a lot.
Adam Curry: It's called Summer.
It's called Summer,
John C Dvorak: by the way, yes,
the red jungle fowl or the
Gaelic rooster, that. Is the
national bird of France. Oh,
thank
Adam Curry: you. Good to know.
I'm gonna stick with the UK,
because there was, there's a
video that's gone viral in the
in the UK, and when I say viral,
I mean millions of views on
Tiktok. So I'm surprised it
didn't show up in your algo,
reposted everywhere, millions of
views on x. Have you seen a day
in the life of an Englishman?
No, so you have to kind of get
into it, because it's obviously
a Brit so he uses a bit of slang
and a bit of language. He's
walking around doing a typical
selfie stick walk through the
streets of London, and he is
going to explain a typical day.
It's like an update of the
Beatles day in the life, only
different. Let's tell
Unknown: you a little story. All
right, sit back, relax and enjoy
it's called a day in the life of
an Englishman. Now, picture
this. You're in London. It costs
more than you earn to live here,
so you're slowly accumulating
there. You can't afford a
holiday, so you're addicted to
drugs, just to fucking escape
your life. The weather's shit.
The people that live here are
even shitter and they hate each
other with a passion, and you
can't afford to leave. There's
homeless people all over the
place. The shops are boarded up
because of covid. Anyway, you
wake up one morning to find out
your taxes going up because
Labor's in and this is after you
les the cost of living crisis,
energy prices, interest rates,
have all eaten that last little
bit of extra money you had left
over each month from your wage
and your outgoings. So now
you're proper, folks, and while
you're sat there on the toilet
in the morning reading tweets
from the Metropolitan Police
about online trolls and how they
upset them, a SWAT team smashes
through your bathroom window
straight pasture on the shitter
and goes into your 11 year old
son's bedroom and arrests him
for shouting at a police
officer. Then your sister rings
her She's recently got fired
from her job as a doctor for
refusing to ask biological men
if they're pregnant, and she
tells her that your grandma's
just frozen to death because
Keir Starmer gave her a winter
allowance to a country on the
other side of the planet that's
wealthier than us to help them
with climate change. It's all
getting a little bit much
anyway. And you think you know
what I'll do, I'll nip off for a
pint to relax. Maybe I'll sit in
the beer garden and have a fag.
But while you're doing that, you
get barred, because that's
illegal now. So you decide you
know what I'm gonna do, I'm
gonna go for a walk to clear my
head morning. And while you're
on your walk clearing your head,
you get stabbed to death. Yes,
stabbed to death violently just
walking around the city. Then
the Guardian plasters your face
all over the news for randomly
jumping on a perfectly good
night 54 times that was held by
a choir boy. Then your sister's
enraged by this, so she tweets
about it. She gets nicked. Your
son comes out of prison, all
right, and he decides, I'm going
to protest it because my dad's
dead. But this time he shouts at
a police horse, and he gets
nicked for that, but the prisons
are too full, so they let out
Ian Huntley to put him in. Now,
the mad thing about this tale is
it doesn't even sound far
fetched anymore, does it? It's
perfectly believable. I'll tell
you why, because it's all based
on true events. This is our
story. This is fucking England.
I Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's bad when you
look at it from that
perspective. And I didn't
believe the my friend Michelle.
He's been a pub guy, owner of
pubs and clubs for as long as
I've known him, when I lived in
Guilford. And I mean, he doesn't
even text me anymore. He's so
depressed because, you know, his
clubs are closed. He can't. They
have they're bringing in
regulations for how much you can
charge for for alcohol, or I
think, actually going to charge
extra for alcohol so that it
becomes less desirable to buy
alcohol. And I didn't, I How did
you go to a pub for of course,
but and and people go to pubs,
and then they have their beer
garden. You go, as you said, you
know, God, so I'd have a fag,
which is British for cigarette.
And indeed, they're going to ban
this. Here is the new Prime
Minister of the
Unknown: UK. My starting point
on this is to remind everyone
that over 80,000 people lose
their lives every year because
of smoking. That's a preventable
death. It's a huge burden on the
NHS, and of course, it's a
burden on the taxpayer. So yes,
we are going to take decisions
in this space. More details will
be revealed, but this is a
series of deaths, and we've got
to take the action to reduce the
burden on the NHS and reduce the
burden on the taxpayer. You said
when you became prime minister,
you wanted politics to tread
more lightly on people's lives.
This is the opposite, isn't
it? I think it's important to
get the balance right. But
everybody watching this who uses
the NHS will know that it's on
its knees. We have to relieve
the burden, and that's why I
spoke before the election about
moving to a preventative model
when it comes to health. I want
the NHS back on its feet, but I
also want it fit for the next 75
years, just as we've had a
brilliant 75 years already. E
and that means taking action in
relation to preventable deaths.
And these are 80,000 a year
preventable deaths.
Adam Curry: You know, when I was
in the UK in 2005 the NHS was on
its knees. You had to wait six
to nine months just for an MRI.
This is, this is, this is not
good. What's going on there. And
you just got to wonder, are the
British people just taking it,
or are they going to rise up
again? Or is that all just Tommy
Robinson lore? Is he the only
one
John C Dvorak: doing this?
You're asking the wrong guy. And
Adam Curry: then there's the new
one. And I think this this, and
it's rolled out to Australia,
the right to disconnect. Have
you heard of this? This is a new
one.
John C Dvorak: Nope, you got me
flat footed once again, twice in
one show. Okay,
Adam Curry: I'll play the
Australian clip first, because
it explains it in a little more
detail, and then I'll play the
UK clip. The
Unknown: ICT U is pushing to
strengthen right to disconnect.
Laws being introduced by the
Albanese government. The union
is requesting the Fair Work
Commission to insert the laws
into awards, arguing employers
should be held accountable for
proper staffing. It's proposing
a further two factors be taken
into account, whether the
employees on leave or another
authorized absence, so
Adam Curry: you have the right
to disconnect, meaning your
employer cannot pester you,
which is a problem, but you
know, to make this a law and oh,
no, you can't. You cannot talk
to me after five o'clock. And
from what Nigel Farage says,
this appears to be happening in
the UK as well. I wonder
Unknown: if a new prime minister
is telling you that you can do
plenty of work from home and you
can't be contacted outside
office hours, otherwise you
might be subject to 1000s of
pounds in compensation. You
shouldn't be working after five
o'clock, and all of this will
boost productivity. Let me tell
you, this is a load of cobblers
if you only want in life and
succeed, believe me, you've got
to work hard. You've got to work
damned hard. You've got to be
prepared to get out of your
house, meet people, do stuff,
and if necessary, work late into
the evening. It's up to you. You
want to be successful. Work
hard. You want to fail. Listen
to our prime minister. You
Adam Curry: know this can only
lead to that. This can only lead
to universal basic income. As
far as I'm concerned,
John C Dvorak: it has to, I
don't know about what connection
there. No, I don't know what the
point of it is. I mean, when I
was at working in an oil
refinery where you worked shift
work, where you'd work one week
of
Adam Curry: were you on? Were
you on the one of the islands?
Were you on the drilling islands
up
John C Dvorak: here in rodeo at
the Union oil refinery? Oh,
okay, and you would work
overtime. Sometimes there would
be a lot of and sometimes they'd
call you at home to tell you,
can you come in because we need
somebody for some reason or
other, you just never answered
the phone. You're in bed,
sleeping well, like now, for
example, I don't have a phone
anywhere near the bedroom. I
know I can you want to call me?
I'm in bed. Is your nose picking
up? So what's How? How does that
not work to keep you
disconnected if you want to be
Adam Curry: well, that's why you
missed my surprise birthday
party. Tina was calling you and
you were just ignoring the
phone. Never called me once.
Unknown: How do you know? Never
called me? How
Adam Curry: do you know? How do
you know you never heard it? You
just you were in bed. Well, I
John C Dvorak: have a phone if
she if she called during the
day, the working hours. I'm
working out. There you go,
working out the landline.
Adam Curry: It's called the
landline. People.
John C Dvorak: Nobody even knows
what that is anymore. Bring
Adam Curry: out the tech grouch
everybody. Where is he?
Bakelite? Oh, no, I have it
right here.
Unknown: Only good phone's a
landline, and the phone should
be made out of big light,
Adam Curry: a classic, bring him
back,
John C Dvorak: that guy, you
know, I Carlos will do it and do
it, produce that again, if I've
ever, if the guy ever wants to
come back.
Adam Curry: Oh, you don't need
Carlos to do it. It's all you,
it's all it's all personal.
Nobody, somebody
John C Dvorak: produced the
whole thing is a piece. I need a
I need a videographer. I mean,
I, I could do it myself, but I'm
not gonna do that. It's you
know, me.
Adam Curry: I'm still hoping you
get the microphones done by
Christmas. No, I'm sure you're
not gonna, you're not going to
bring
John C Dvorak: back. I'll talk
about that after this when we do
our later. Well, listen, the
microphone problem is like, I'm
not so sure that that company
that appears to be making the
microphones that we're trying to
OEM, is the company. Oh,
Adam Curry: man, this is. Is
going to be another failed exit
strategy. The whole party
everyone's talking about, Hey,
man, I hear you guys got an exit
strategy with microphones. Mark
halls from Mark Hall actually
bought, he gave me as a gift, a
microphone. Yes, a Neumann
replica made in ah, was it?
Well, I'm sure it's from China,
but maybe it was Brazil or
something. It looks exactly like
the big Neumann, you know, the
$8,000 Neumann. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's beautiful. I
have one of those myself. Do
they handmade by somebody who
put it together? Oh, it has the
Telefunken logo on the logo on
it. Now this original U 47 is
what we're talking about.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's the one,
the big one, the big, the big
the one that's a big, giant
tube. Mike, yeah, the one they
have at NPR or at at crooked
media, crooked media,
John C Dvorak: crooked media.
Maybe the ones, the ones
Adam Curry: we're going to put
stickers on when they go out of
business because of their
because of their union. Union
contract, union Good luck. Hey,
no union contract here. But I
would like to say in the morning
to you, the man who put the C in
the curry Dvorak microphone
company, say hello to my friend
on the other end, the one and
only Mr. John C
John C Dvorak: Dvorak. Actually,
it's curry. Dvorak, audio
products. Oh, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. Audio
products,
John C Dvorak: let's get that
straight. All right, hi in the
morning to you, Mr. Adam curry,
also in the morning, ships and
sea boosts the ground, feet in
the air. Substantite in the
morning to the trolls.
Adam Curry: So thank you very
much. Who posted that cotton
gin? Cotton Gin, keep doing
that. I like that. We had a peak
of 2274 in the troll room. It's
dropped down to 2118 that cotton
gin. I'd like you to do that
every single time so I can know.
Well, he gave me the peak listen
moment of the show, oh, which is
kind of cool. Yeah, I like that.
He is kind of cool. He does a
graph. He has a graph, he has a
graph, graph, yeah, he has a
chart, a graph. And you can
John C Dvorak: now, he's got to
take it to the next level, which
is, have arrows at the different
points in the chart, saying,
talked about this, talked about
that, so we could talk about
this. So we can see, when you
bring some of your topics up,
and you see the dip. Will know
the reason,
Adam Curry: why and how come.
It's when I bring some of my
topics up, not when you bring
some of your topics up. Yes.
Okay, so the trolls are in the
troll room, which you can
join@trollroom.io or you can
participate live. This is a
fantastic invention of
podcasting, 2.0 you get one of
those modern podcast apps. I use
podcast guru because it does
video, does all kinds of stuff,
and it does these. It does live
as well. So you get alerted when
we when we send out the batch
signal at the beginning of the
show, and then all you have to
do is tap it, and then, boom,
you got to stream live, and you
can listen in, and it's the same
app that you don't have to use a
different app, you don't have to
go to a different website or
something like that, even though
you can, if you don't want to,
if you don't use podcast apps.
Got to wonder what you're
listening to the show on? Yeah?
Just, just a thought, well, you
don't, do you use a podcast app?
John C Dvorak: No, I listen to
everything on the web.
Interesting.
Adam Curry: I mean, you just go
direct to their website. Or do
you go
John C Dvorak: to the time this?
Yes, almost Yes, I go to the
website. Sometimes I end up on
Apple
Adam Curry: on the you know. So
Apple just released
podcast.apple.com so you can now
use the apple podcasts on the
website, which you used to be
able to do, but now they've
upgraded it so it's even worse,
which is phenomenal how they did
that.
John C Dvorak: It's even worse.
Adam Curry: It is worse. I don't
know those guys. I I feel for
that. Why
John C Dvorak: don't they hire
you for a short one month stint
as a consultant to bring their
their quality up to par.
Adam Curry: No, no. Why would
they get it for free? They just
listen to the the podcasting,
2.0 board meeting every Friday.
Nobody thinks like that. No,
they do. They believe me,
there's people from the apple.
It doesn't
John C Dvorak: mean you. They
shouldn't hire you for a one
month stint.
Adam Curry: Okay? First of all,
um, I would never do that
because I'm unhireable and they
don't have no one really wants
to hear what I have. The last
time I talked to someone Apple
podcast, the guy laughed at me
and then he quit. He was running
the show. Employees,
John C Dvorak: ladies and
gentlemen, bring in Adam curry.
Hire Adam.
Adam Curry: No, actually, I like
the team over there, but I this
is not a profit center for
Apple. They lose money on the
team.
John C Dvorak: It's called a
lost leader. It makes money in a
different sort of way, right?
Adam Curry: So it's all about
the experience. So they did.
Added transcripts, which we, we
did they have joy Oh, they, that
they, you know what? I'd love to
be in the apple. Joy Division,
if I can be there, I'm, I'm open
for business people, yeah. Joy
boy, we'll call you, okay. Oh,
let me write that down. It's
another good I like Joy
Division, but joy boy, Joy boy,
Joy boy, yes. Oh, you know what?
That's it. No agenda. Hi, I'm a
no agenda. Joy boy, see it's on
my T shirt. So we, we do not
participate in programs like,
what is it? Patreon, where you
have all kinds of levels, and
you have to use apps to
subscribe. And by the way, do
you see the the the Wall Street
Journal article about
podcasting? Would you like to
hear one paragraph from, I
John C Dvorak: would like you to
Yes, yes. Okay,
Adam Curry: podcasts used to be
ad lite oases. Not anymore.
John C Dvorak: Now. What? What
Adam Curry: add what? Add light,
l, I, G, H, T, so light on, add
light. They were oases of light,
lightness of ads, very, just a
sprinkling of ads, you know,
like use code, bong, Gino, yeah,
there is, yeah. Well, apparently
not anymore. No, ads in the
second quarter of this year took
up an average of how much do you
think of podcast runtime? What
percentage
John C Dvorak: an hour? Can I
just give a percentage out of an
hour? Yeah? Ads, yeah. Well,
under, over in the old light
days, it would be five minutes
an hour. Maybe I would say now
it be. I would say 10 minutes
max. No,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, it's
not that bad. It's 11. Well,
10.9% of podcast run times. So
in this show, which is 180
minutes, you'd have 18 minutes
of ads.
John C Dvorak: Well, considering
what you have on a radio
station,
Adam Curry: which is 18 minutes
per hour, yeah, 18 minutes to 20
Yeah?
John C Dvorak: 20 minutes an
hour, I would say yes, yes.
That's that's still light, and
we're
Adam Curry: moving, of course,
more in that direction with
inserted, you know, the did I
tell you that? Tune in, you
know, tune in the app. Tune in.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you already
bitched about okay, well,
Adam Curry: then I won't bitch
about it anymore. In 2024 How
much do you think podcasters
collected in ad revenue per hour
of programming per listener?
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, per
hour per listener, I would say
Adam Curry: $1 Ha, six cents,
six cents, six off, six cents.
So they're ruining everyone's
experience. For you are when you
listen to a podcast that has
ads, the value they place on you
is six cents. Good luck slave.
We, however, run no ads, so we
value you highly. This
John C Dvorak: is interesting
because the network TV is
always, usually budget $1 per
person per viewers. So if
Network 10 million viewers, that
networker, cable, network, if
you have 10 million viewers of
uh NCIS, your budget is ten
million Wow. Well,
Adam Curry: it used to so I
think that just with these, with
these numbers, you're just going
to see more ads in podcasts.
There's no other way. And the
thing that they all forget is
that it's unlimited inventory.
You're not limited like radio by
24 hours, so there's no way you
can create what is the term I'm
John C Dvorak: looking that's
the problem, the unlimited
inventory aspect to Yeah, you
Adam Curry: can't create
scarcity. That's the term. You
can't create artificial
scarcities
John C Dvorak: to go longer,
yes, just two more ads.
Adam Curry: Anyway, we, we
decided that was never going to
be for us, and not because of
the money. We just didn't want
to do any, just didn't want to,
no, it didn't want to do any,
any meetings. It's a pain in the
ass. Yes. So instead, we decided
to go value for value, which we
coined the term, and we, I mean,
it wasn't that hard to figure
out, but it was kind of a we
didn't just we discovered it
more than invented it. It's
like, Hey, if you, if you ask
people to just send you whatever
they think it's worth this, it's
much better, because people
don't feel a need. They can do
it whenever they want. That
means it's roller coaster for
us, but we're here almost 17
years. We're still hanging in
there by our fingernails. We're
hanging in I'm glad I have a
birthday. Got a lot of 60
donations today, which I'm very
happy. I can't wait to read
them. And thank everybody and
you. We also say you can, you
can just hit us with time,
talent or treasure. And that's
the that's the beauty of our.
Podcast. It's really about the
producers. You're not listeners.
You're producers. It is your job
to produce the program, which
means keep it going financially,
but also add your talents. And
people have a lot of talent.
People have a lot of
information. Actually, this is a
special, a special donation
segment, boots on the ground.
You know, we had asked these
reports are out there saying,
oh, 33 nurses died suddenly.
Well, we know that we have a lot
of people working in as nurses,
registered nurses, doctors, all
kinds of people who work in the
field. And I have a quick boots
on the ground from leaf. Who is
a nurse? Adam, I'm a nurse on a
sustaining donation. Thank you
so delivering time, talent and
treasure. And I have not seen a
recent sudden die off of nurses.
However, what I have seen is an
absolute explosion of pots,
which I was not familiar with.
This term I thought was plain
old, television, telephone
system, but it stands for
Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia
Syndrome among my young female
co workers. Have you ever heard
of this?
Unknown: No, and
Adam Curry: neither had I. He
explains it's a syndrome,
meaning its cause is not well
understood, but has to do with
uh, autonomic cardiovascular
regulation, the rates among the
under 25 females is probably 10%
on a syndrome that is supposed
to be 0.2% it's a diagnosis of
exclusion. So it takes a while
to diagnose. Once you rule out
everything else, you get
diagnosed based on the symptoms,
also the viral diabetes thing,
type one is usually triggered by
a viral infection. We aren't
really sure why. So there is
something going on. It's not
that they're dying off in great
numbers, but 10% of this
syndrome doesn't sound good.
John C Dvorak: No, not when it
was supposed to be point oh two,
yeah. So
Adam Curry: we are thinking,
John C Dvorak: what changed in
society? Ah,
Adam Curry: you know, it's,
it's,
John C Dvorak: let me think
Adam Curry: it's, probably, it's
plastics.
John C Dvorak: Could it be micro
plastics in the dye
Adam Curry: is I'm really, I got
it.
John C Dvorak: You got it? What
climate change? There
Adam Curry: you go. Due to
climate change. Due to climate
change. All right, so that's one
way you can support us. Another
way is, well, our artists, our
artists always provide us
multiple pieces of artwork to
choose from, to put in the any
album art for every single show
we think it's useful and fun.
It's just another fun thing to
do instead of fun, instead of
having AI write up some crappy
description of which is what
they talked about in the show,
you know, AI does that for us.
When I do the transcript,
another podcasting 2.0
invention, AI will then that we
use otter.ai, or that's what I
you know, the one that can't get
your name right, keeps calling
you John, C, j, h, n, s, I
suddenly Indian, yes. So it'll
do a summary of the show. So
here's the summary from the last
show. Tell me if you'd like to
put this into our description.
The Conversation covers various
topics, including the upcoming
interview with Kamala Harris,
the arrest of telegram Founder
Pavel Durov, and the political
dynamics surrounding Donald
Trump. They discuss the
challenges of free speech on
platforms like x controlled by
Linda yakarino and and the
potential influence of Saudi
money, which I don't think we
ever mentioned. The Conversation
also touches on the impact of
climate change on mosquito
populations and the spread of
diseases like Eastern Equine
Encephalitis. Additionally, they
analyzed the legal implications
of the superseding indictment
against Trump, emphasizing the
Supreme Court's ruling on
presidential immunity and the
challenges for special counsel
Jack Smith improving Trump's
actions were unofficial. I
wouldn't turn that podcast on in
a million years. That sounds
horrible, because we do it with
pizzazz and with humor and with
jokes, yuck, yuck. So no, we'd
rather have a funny piece of
art. And people go, Oh, let me
see what these guys are doing.
Let's see what those guys are up
to. So I know right, if
John C Dvorak: you can't say
it's wrong,
Adam Curry: no, it's not wrong,
but it's, that's not marketing,
that's, that's anti marketing.
It's like, do not tune into
this. Whatever you do, it's
boring. So not boring was
friends. Actually,
John C Dvorak: there's an
interesting you're making an
interesting point about the
boring. So it at its base level.
AI is dull, yes, humorless?
Well, of course, it has to be
humorless, because the humor,
artificial humor, a hard you
need artificial humor somehow
when AI can write jokes, yeah,
come back, genuinely funny,
yeah. Give us a call.
Adam Curry: Give us a call,
yeah, give us a. Pretty good.
One of you can write jokes. So
instead, we come up with a funny
title, like corn sweat, which
neither of us had heard of. A
lot of people in the in the
north, in the Midwest were like,
Hey, man, corn sweat is a real
deal, man, all right, gotcha. We
never told us about it before.
Yeah. And now and then we choose
a beautiful, I thought, great
piece of art from Francisco
Scaramanga, which was the kind
of Elvira esque cheesecake lady
spray painting. No agenda, zero
impact, which is what we claim
to have on society. Zero impact
in graffiti style, or, as you
would say, graffiti. And we both
liked it. We both thought it was
a good piece. Well, we
John C Dvorak: it was funny
because it was a fallback on the
fact that we couldn't really
come up with anything old. Most
of the art was corn sweat, yeah,
Adam Curry: which just didn't
work. Sloth fever was, we didn't
really talk about sloth fever
one clip, maybe, yeah,
John C Dvorak: sloth fever was
no good. No, it was no good. It
was just a rough go in terms of
Adam Curry: the art. It was Sir
Shug faux diddley did the
molasses of subversion, which we
looked at, but it wasn't really
a great piece as a product shot
I saw you use the free podcast
sign from Darren as the
newsletter artwork. I was good.
I liked that piece. Nestworks
did the politics of joy, which
wasn't anything, wasn't
compelling. I actually like
Darren's curry Dvorak. Girls
with, I'm not big on the
cheesecake, but for some reason
it's the two girls, one saying
both wearing no agenda T shirts,
one saying curry, one saying
Dvorak. It was actually kind of
good. Yeah, a lot of corn, sweat
stuff. What else was there Black
joy comics or Blogger? Let the
prompt jockey extraordinaire, no
peanut butter. No agenda. Peanut
butter. Why? None of that really
hit us. Did it? Was it really?
No, yeah, and then, and then you
looked at it was just, it was a
good piece, the Scaramanga
thing, it stood out, you know,
green, oh, I kind of like tanta
Neal's tools that didn't work,
but it didn't work.
John C Dvorak: It didn't work.
No, this is too can it was
something confusing about
Adam Curry: it, yeah, hammer
with no Hammerhead, screwdriver
with no shaft, saw with no
blade. We got the idea just
didn't quite work. So thank you
Francisco Scaramanga for
bringing up,
John C Dvorak: by the way, I
don't know why he contributes to
heart. Doesn't make sense. It's
love
Adam Curry: hate relationship,
man. You know he's just trying.
I see John G do came in late
with the Swiss Army surrender,
which probably wouldn't have
been chosen, but at least he
tried to do a Swiss army knife
with no blade, yes, but you know
what? We appreciate all of it.
All like
John C Dvorak: the I like the I
like the piece with the instead
of a blade, you have a surrender
flag, yes,
Adam Curry: but it's cute. It's
cute, but the curry Dvorak is
not right. No agenda off center.
Yeah, too small. Yeah, we're
very discerning here.
John C Dvorak: We're horrible
about that. We're
Adam Curry: kind of horrible,
but we take
John C Dvorak: the moment to
become art directors. Yes, we're
and all these artists know that
art directors are all a holes,
and
Adam Curry: we play it to a T,
ladies and gentlemen. So along
with that, we also have
treasure. We'd like to thank our
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers.
So the way now anybody can
support the show with any
amount. In fact, we have a
layaway night and a layaway
dame, so both who have been just
supporting the show with
whatever amount they choose, on
whatever regular basis they
choose, and been doing that for
a while, so both of them will be
joined the roundtable getting
that beautiful Knight and or
Dame ring. But in the case of
the executive producers per
show, if you're $200 or above,
you get an Associate Executive
Producer title, and we read your
note, $300 and above, executive
producer, and we read your note
as well. And you get a credit,
which is a real credit. You can
use it anywhere. You can put it
on your LinkedIn profile. It'll
be recognized as such by anyone
who's a Hollywood douchebag or,
you know, it impresses people
some places. And if there's any
question, you can say, oh, yeah,
look at my imdb.com it's real.
Oh, okay, and you'll see some
real Hollywood names in there as
well, which you can point out.
And so let's thank them. Right
now, I'm looking at this first
donation, which is Beltre Lama
in the town of Erika, which now
neither of this sounds right.
Right? So this is a Dutch
donation, $333.33 let me see,
because it says, see the email,
but I don't have this email.
Have you seen this email? No, I
wouldn't be
John C Dvorak: able to read it
if I did. It
Adam Curry: says Z email, Na,
Adam found quirano out. Erika on
quirano. So it's from someone
named kurana. Let me double
check, make sure I'm not missing
this.
John C Dvorak: I don't have
anything, but it was sent to you
specifically.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute.
No, I have quirano here. Here
was this? Hold on a second. What
did this come in? Oh, did this
come in? Friday? Here we go. Oh,
okay, so this is all in Dutch,
so I'll just have to read it in
Dutch. Backslater linked, taken,
said Naya frack. Taken, the
answer of Trump. Check this
video. This is main tip of the
quartal tiny fault. Doner for my
comrade, Van leywa. Shout out to
Mickey van leywa. Picasso Doner
and a producer word of triple,
China is asshole, okay? And it
says we understood that one,
didn't we? Okay? All right,
it's, it's kind of odd that it's
that it's that it's in Dutch,
but I'll be happy to comply.
China
Unknown: is asshole. China is
asshole. China is asshole. And
Adam Curry: quirano Martin.
That's his name soon to be night
of the flatter lands. He says
he's celebrating his birthday on
September 6. So I think that's a
show day. So we can send in a
note, and we'll make sure send a
note in English, so we can make
sure we get you on the list. And
thank you very much for your
support of the no agenda show,
John C Dvorak: sir loudpipes is
in Charlotte, North Carolina. He
comes with the same amount,
three, three, 3.33, and he says,
Happy Birthday, Adam. Thank you.
And he said, Then he signs off
with Sir loud pipes, the Baron
of Mecklenburg County. No
agenda. Is your exit strategy
from the insanity we're
Adam Curry: gonna die spitting
in the mics.
John C Dvorak: And I wash my
thing off once in a while in the
dishwasher. A tip,
Adam Curry: oh, you your your
spit screen, your windscreen,
yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: one of the metal
ones, the best kind, instead of,
you know, there's others,
there's certain kinds of spit
screens. But this is really a
killer. It's a good one, but it
does get nasty. Yeah, needs to
get washed once in a while in
the dishwasher.
Adam Curry: 333 dot 33 from
Jason Edmonds in Johnson City,
Tennessee. Hey, Adam and John. I
regret that it took me this long
to get off the douchebag roles.
So I'm starting down my path to
knighthood. I got hit in the
mouth by my buddy Spencer back
in the spring, and I haven't
missed a show since. I regret
that I didn't know about you in
2020 but better late than never.
Gentlemen, thank you for your
courage and for slowing down the
shrinking of my amygdala. Please
censor Spencer some baby making
karma. And if you wouldn't mind,
could you please deduce me?
Unknown: You've been deduced.
Oh, you've
got karma.
John C Dvorak: Sir. Chris
Beaverton, Oregon, two, two,
2.33, is Associate Executive
Producer. Sir Chris of Cascadia,
here, I just need stereo. Luge
goat karma, please keep up the
good work
Unknown: you've got.
Adam Curry: Scott Porter in
Frisco, Texas, 210 60 was just
up there in Frisco. Adam and
John, thank you for the show. My
mother is 80. I had a nasty fall
last Friday, resulting in a very
serious head injury. Ah, I
humbly request health and
healing karma aimed her way so
she will make a speedy recovery.
Yes, here it comes for your mom.
You've got karma. Everybody.
Pray for mom.
John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee
guy, bensonville, Illinois,
20901, happy birthday, Adam and
Happy Labor Day to all those.
That's right, it's labor Labor
Day. We say Labor Day weekend.
No one of the yeah, do all those
and get mo nation. I'll be
smoking a brisket in Illinois.
Okay, getting the right brisket
to smoke if you're going to do
one, that is what takes to work.
I'll be smoking a brisket using
a brown sugar coffee rub. Coffee
rubs are not unusual. Producers
should visit gigawatt Coffee
roasters.com and use code ITM
for 20% off your coffee order,
because coffee is not only good
for drinking, but makes a mean
barbecue rub. There are recipes
online, stay caffeinated. Eli,
the coffee guy,
Adam Curry: you know Tina, she
sometimes does a rub on the Tri
Tip, and she actually uses
gigawatt coffee, espresso, and
it's really good. She does it
with, with the brown shirt. I'm
sure that it's all wrong
according to you, but I like
what she I never said that, no,
but typically you're like that.
You typically just would poo,
poo it. But if you'd showed up
to what, since when? If you'd
showed up to my birthday party,
you could have had
John C Dvorak: some, well, you
could always ship me some.
Sandra,
Adam Curry: Ferreira is in
Brooklyn, New York, enemy
territory. $200 Happy Birthday.
Adam. Thank you for always
making me laugh. John, please
send some jobs karma our way,
says Sandra, and we're happy to
do so. Stand by
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma.
The
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lupekin. She's here again, once
again, the Lakewood, Colorado.
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hair. Adam,
Adam Curry: thank you. Linda
Lou, jobs, jobs,
Unknown: jobs and jobs,
jobs, she reads the
Adam Curry: newsletter. Yes,
very funny. Very funny. Yes, she
does read the newsletter. Thank
you to our executive and
Associate Executive producers.
There more people to thank in
our second segment, $50 and
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Also, you can set up your
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again to our Associate Executive
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producers for this episode. Our
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth.
Adam Curry: Well, I hate to say
it, but they're ratcheting it
up. John, they're ratcheting it
up.
John C Dvorak: They've been
ratchet ratcheting it up.
Adam Curry: No, but this, this
is the new new this is the new
thing. And for this, we go back
to my old stomping grounds of
New Jersey. Is bad, people. It's
very, very bad. Two
Unknown: deaths from the West
Nile virus are now being
reported in southern New Jersey,
one in Mercer County, another in
Cumberland County. Meanwhile,
New York City seeing a surge in
cases. 10 people have now been
confirmed infected. There are 10
other cases around New York
State. And with people headed
outdoors this holiday weekend,
Governor Hochul reminding
everyone to be careful. Use a
spray repellent to protect
yourself against mosquitoes
possibly carrying West Nile next
week, New York city plans to
resume mosquito spraying in
Queens and Manhattan.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just
that's a light version of it.
But despite the spraying, two
people died in New Jersey. Now
we have to bring in some, some
new terms for the triple E, the
Eastern Equine Encephalitis is
the stuff that makes your brain
swell and burst out of your
head. Of course, we know what
causes this
Unknown: week, a new hampshire
man died of Eastern Equine
Encephalitis, or triple E, after
being bit by a mosquito. U S,
health officials are warning
that cases of mosquito borne
diseases like triple E and West
Nile are on the rise this year,
especially in the northeast,
hotter temperatures, more severe
weather events and piles of
plastic trash have created
environments where mosquitoes
thrive, allowing insects to
reach areas formerly
inhospitable to them. For
example, dengue cases are rising
in Europe, where the disease
used to actually be quite rare.
The number of European countries
with a self sustaining
population of a mosquito breed
known to carry Dengue fever has
grown from eight to 13 in the
last decade. And it's not just
that diseases are spreading to
new areas. Mosquito season is
also getting longer because of
climate change. A 2023 study by
the nonprofit Climate Central
found that 173 locations across
the US have seen an increase in
the number of mosquito days. The
average increase for those
locations is 16 days. But some
areas in the country have had
their mosquito days actually
extended by much longer. These
10 cities have at least an extra
month. Of days that are
favorable to mosquitoes. So
Adam Curry: it's all, of course,
because of climate change, to
climate change. But we have the
new term, mosquito days. How
many mosquito days this year? So
I like that. It's a nice
mosquito days, a new metric.
Yeah, it's a new metric,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and it's up
and it's up a number of
percentage points. Yeah, number.
Adam Curry: Just quite a number,
and we need to make it a little
we can kind of bring that home
for people and give them a
little more visual. NBC Today
show is great at doing these
things for
Unknown: those heading to a lake
for Labor Day, be on high alert
mosquitoes. Look for still fresh
water, and be sure to apply a
deep based insect repellent on
top of your sunscreen. In
Missouri, John Proctor wishes
his family had known about the
danger of mosquito borne
illnesses. His 18 year old son,
known as BB, has a long road to
recovery. He's on a ventilator,
paralyzed from the neck down
after contracting West Nile
virus from a mosquito bite his
dad believes he got while
playing with their dog in the
backyard. It's
such a small horror story.
Insignificant creature can take
a perfectly 100% healthy human
being and it just causing havoc
on his body
that fast. It only takes one
mosquito
Adam Curry: to get you. It only
takes one mosquito to catch you.
John C Dvorak: One is that?
Well, you had the one that guy
in New Hampshire, which they
keep talking about.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the two in New
Jersey. And now this kid, poor
kid. So
John C Dvorak: we have four out
of a population of three, 50
million. Be
Adam Curry: afraid. Be afraid,
if that doesn't scare you. Oh,
please. We've got plenty more
where that came from. NBC, we're
Unknown: heading into the
holiday weekend, and a special
guest no one wants on their
travels is coming along anyway.
I'm talking about covid cases
surging, hospitalizations up in
almost every state, and deaths
double what they were in the
spring. We still seem to be
hitting a stride of covid
normalcy, with some some
travelers even opting not to
normalcy so covid doesn't
disrupt their trips. Some,
Adam Curry: oh no, these
horrible travelers opting not to
test so covid. Covid doesn't
disrupt it. I hope everybody
tested before they came to my
surprise birthday party. It
could have been a super spreader
event. Bring in
Unknown: Doctor John Torres. Dr
Torres, why the rise right now?
Is it mostly fueled by all the
travel that we're doing? Or is
this new strain kind of really
contagious, or both,
you're leading the witness. This
is not the guest you want to
travel with or travel to. I
think what's happening here is
kind of a confluence of a couple
different things. Number one,
the variant is changing, and we
know the variants can continue
to change, but in this case,
it's changing one that's more
contagious, luckily, it's not
more deadly, and that's the good
news behind that. But on top of
that, certain things are
happening now that we haven't
had happen over the last year
and a half or so. You know,
people are aren't caring as much
about getting covid. They aren't
testing as much. They aren't
getting vaccinated. It's a
little bit delayed, and they're
certainly not wearing mastering
like that. So, you know, whole
factors, all those added
together, are, I think, are
causing this rise here. But by
far the biggest one is that
variant changing to a more
contagious status, which is
going to happen continuing as we
go on here. Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: as we gone, continue
to change. So, yeah, yeah. Well,
could you give me a tip like no
agenda, gives me a tip of the
day, gives me some good products
to use. Give me some interesting
information. Could you give me a
tip for the travel.
Unknown: In terms of travel,
what steps should people be
taken to safely enjoy their time
away, instead of the sort of
like, out of sight, out of mind
mentality when it comes to
getting the virus,
Adam Curry: stay safe everybody.
You
Unknown: know, I think that's an
important thing to bring up. You
know, number one, the virus is
still the virus. Is a virus is
still the virus. Can you
continue to do things that's
done right now we're seeing
higher cases than we've seen in
the last year and a half. But
like I mentioned, it's more
contagious, but likely it's not
more deadly, but it still is a
deadly virus, and people still
end up in the hospital and dying
from
Adam Curry: it. Why hold on a
second. It's not deadly, but it
still could be deadly. Maybe
it's deadly. Do you know anyone
who's had covid at this moment
in time, at this actually, I do
you Yes. JC,
John C Dvorak: Jesse and
Theodore all have covid. Are
they?
Adam Curry: Are they dying?
Well, they're
John C Dvorak: not happy.
Adam Curry: Well, tell them not
to travel. He
John C Dvorak: got it because he
went to Montreal for some event
and got it on the way back on a
bus ride
Adam Curry: the most jabbed
country in the world. Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: everyone was got
sick on the bus, everybody,
yeah, he brought it here locally
and gave it to the kids and his
Adam Curry: wife. He's work.
He's the patient zero.
John C Dvorak: He's patient zero
for the Bay Area. Now,
Unknown: there's a variety of
reasons people aren't aren't
getting the vaccines. There's a
variety of reasons people aren't
masking or testing. Is because
they're horrible people. Those
are things that still work. You
know, the vaccine granted. No,
they don't too late to get it
for this weekend, but you
definitely want to get it for
the fall season coming up,
because it's a new variant out
there. Masking I always carry
mine. The last couple flights
I've had, I've wanted the entire
flight because people are
coughing and hacking around me.
I certainly don't want to get
covid, or certainly don't want
to spread it to them. Ah. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I wore a I'm a good
man. I'm a good man, and I wore
a mask the whole flight.
Unknown: And then think about
that social distance, and we
used to do if you're sick,
social distance, especially if
there's somebody that's
vulnerable in the place you're
going to Christina,
Adam Curry: he's the he's Dr
John over at the NBC Today Show
You can't stop talking. He's a
chatterbox. But wait, just when
you thought it couldn't get even
better than this, the miracle
cure just got more miraculous.
Let's, let's
Unknown: talk treatments. We're
learning from some new studies
that weight loss, drugs like
govi might actually help prevent
covid. What do we know about
that this
Adam Curry: is amazing. I mean,
I mean, would you have a
hangnail ozempic? And
Unknown: this is one that's
surprising a lot of people,
because it's not a result that
has been expected. But what they
found out in the large we go V
trial, 17,000 people, that of
those that got covid, the death
rate was decreased by 33% and
this is the important part, that
death rate was increased almost
immediately. In other words, as
soon as they started taking the
drug, not once, the weight came
off, because we know that
obesity can cause issues if you
get covid, and so you know
losing that weight can be
important, but in this case,
something else seem to be going
on here is another factor that
scientists definitely need to
dig into. And I think the
important point here is to
realize that this is a study
that needs more studies to try
and figure out what's happening
here and why this is benefiting
the people, and is it something
that can benefit all of us and
so hopefully, so keeping our
fingers crossed. It as we find
out more about covid, we get
more answers as well,
potentially exciting
if they can find out why that's
happening. Dr John Torres,
Adam Curry: thank you so much.
So exciting. Oh, but, but, I
mean, I don't have another clip,
but now I do. Scientists have
discovered that ozempic is
literally the fountain of youth.
It can turn back the clock on a
host of diseases. This is, I
mean, John, we've got to get on
this train. This ozempic fixes
everything. How could we it's
been around for 18 years or so.
Yeah, now
John C Dvorak: they're just
discovering all this. I guess
they never studied it at all. Is
that what you're saying?
Adam Curry: I have no idea, but
it's, it's fixes everything.
John C Dvorak: Well, you gotta
get, gotta have it. It has to
have a lot more power near the
end of its patent, uh, period,
because you can GOP.
Adam Curry: One is not
patentable. It's, you know, the
only thing that's patented is
there is the injector. That's
why you can compound it. But you
got to have the brand name. You
don't want some dupe. No, I want
to do well. I
John C Dvorak: think that you're
missing the point of all these
diseases. Oh
Adam Curry: no,
John C Dvorak: because the big
one coming our way any minute,
which will kill a lot more
people, and it's a lot deadlier,
is polio,
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah, yeah,
polio has a resurgence. I've
noticed that in
John C Dvorak: a bunch of clips,
because war
Adam Curry: torn outbreak in
Gaza, yes, war torn Gaza.
John C Dvorak: And I want to ask
a question of you before I play
these clips. Okay, I was under
the impression, based on what
the mainstream media has been
telling me most of my life, for
years, for decades, that polio
was eradicated. That's from the
world stage, eradicated, yep.
And
Adam Curry: that's why you need
you've heard this too, yes. And
the reason I heard it is because
everyone told me that you need
the MMR shot for the measles,
because, like Polio, we can
eradicate this horrible killer,
even though I had measles and
had chicken pox and all that,
and the mumps. So now polio
somehow magically appears in war
torn Gaza, out of the blue, yes,
just in time for, I don't know,
vaccine? Is it vaccine? Are they
doing sugar cubes?
John C Dvorak: Oh, funny, it's a
vaccine. I
Adam Curry: thought I got, I got
the sugar cube. I think back in
the day,
John C Dvorak: you know, that's
another thing. Well, this will
come up in the conversation,
okay, yes, it is a oral vaccine.
And I actually had the shot. I'm
lucky to be alive, yes, indeed.
Because, seriously, I'm not
lucky to be alive. A
Adam Curry: lot of people got
polio from the polio vaccination
because
John C Dvorak: they had live
virus. And a lot of them, the
ones from cutter labs in
particular. Yes, indeed, cutter
I got that shot you got? Wait,
wait, wait,
Adam Curry: you got the cutter
labs polio vaccine? Yeah, you
are lucky to be alive. I
John C Dvorak: am. Wow. You the
people listening to this
podcast, should donate to the
show in thanks that I lived
through it. So I also, I'm lucky
to be alive, and then I and I
never, you know, they obviously
didn't get the bad batch, no,
but the but later, years later,
I also got the sugar cube, the
Sabin. It was so.
Adam Curry: Hold on. Hold on. I
don't understand if you got the
polio vaccine, whether it was
the good one or the bad one. Why
did you also have to take the
sugar cube? Wasn't that one? One
and done with the polio drink?
John C Dvorak: I was duped
Adam Curry: with your parents
certainly were. Well,
John C Dvorak: what am I going
to do? I can't do anything now.
They're both dead. I can't sue
him so. So here we go. I
Adam Curry: got a sugar cube,
and, man, it was trippy. And
Unknown: war ravaged, Gaza, the
United Nations is beginning to
administer polio vaccinations.
This weekend, more than half a
million children are due for the
shots. The virus has reemerged
in Gaza after more than 10
months of war between Israel and
Hamas NPR Kerry Khan reports
that with so much of Gaza's
infrastructure and ruins, it
will be a logistical challenge
to vaccinate 600,000 children.
There are many challenges ahead
for UN health workers, including
getting the vaccines and
patients to clinics, as well as
keeping the vaccines
refrigerated, Israel has agreed
to limited pauses in the
fighting in certain areas. Hamas
has said it will cooperate too.
The polio virus has not been
present in Gaza for at least 25
years. It was recently detected
in a 10 month old boy who is now
partially paralyzed. Doctors say
Many factors contribute to polio
return, including kids not
having access to vaccines during
nearly a year of war, wastewater
treatment plants are in ruins,
and more than 90% of residents
have been displaced from their
homes and now live in
substandard conditions.
Adam Curry: So the question, are
we sure that Polio is a virus,
does that? Has that even been,
yeah, determined. I
John C Dvorak: think it's pretty
well confirmed, but it was
supposed to be eradicated.
That's what gets me.
Adam Curry: Well, I know people
probably around your age in the
UK who still have limp because
they had polio as a kid, I mean,
but they're, you know, they're
now of Medicare age. But I have
not seen anyone with polio.
Heard of any polio, and how can
it be eradicated? This just
makes me think, is it from
something else? Have we been
duped about polio in general?
Logical
John C Dvorak: way to go,
considering that you and I have
both been told it's been
eradicated. Yes, and I know what
the definition of eradicated is.
Yes, gone. All right. Part Two,
Unknown: polio, which has been
gone from the Gaza Strip for
decades, is back as the war
there continues, but there is
the possibility of good news
tomorrow, the United Nations
will begin to vaccinate children
in Gaza against that preventable
and highly contagious virus. It
will be an enormous effort, one
that NPR international
correspondent, a bit trowy will
follow from her base in Dubai,
and she joins us now. Aya,
thanks for being with us.
Thank you, Scott.
Tell us about how this
vaccination campaign is being
rolled out.
Well, the UN has really big aims
here. They want to reach more
than 640,000 children across
Gaza to give them two courses of
the polio vaccine. It will be
given orally in droplets, but it
needs Refrigeration at every
step. And pretty much Gaza has
no electricity. They're just
running on generators and fuel
that's in short supply. If
Adam Curry: they have
generators. They have
electricity. Sorry, she
literally said they have no
electricity. They just have
generators. Well, what does
generator do? It just
Unknown: it will be given orally
in droplets, but it needs
Refrigeration at every step. And
pretty much Gaza has no
electricity. They're just
running on generators and fuel
that through short supply,
another logistical challenge
here is that the whole
population is displaced, and so
it's not easy for them to reach
UNrun clinics. But the UN groups
leading this vaccination effort,
which is UNICEF and the World
Health Organization, they say
the most critical factor is a
pause in airstrikes so that the
vaccines can reach all these
children. Now, Israel says it's
agreed to short pauses,
basically it won't attack for
about eight hours a day in
specific parts of Gaza for the
few days that this campaign is
being rolled out. And Hamas says
they'll also cooperate.
Adam Curry: So we're going to
stop the war to give these kids
polio and then go back to
bombing
John C Dvorak: polio
vaccination, vaccine? Well,
Adam Curry: slip of the tongue,
or was it didn't Bill Gates,
like, kill a whole bunch of
children with his polio
vaccination. I mean, I don't, I
don't
John C Dvorak: know what it was,
but there was some situation
India where he got kicked out of
the country, I think. And then
also in Africa,
Adam Curry: I'll take that back.
I don't he didn't kill children,
but no, he didn't kill there
was, there was a Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation
sponsored, if I remember
correctly, polio vaccination
drive, yeah. And there was an
India and whole bunch of kids
didn't turn out good for them.
So who says this isn't some kind
of death. Shot to kill these
children in Gaza?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
that would be extreme. Oh,
Adam Curry: it's because it's so
much more humane than bombing.
Yeah, exactly. I was waiting
three
Unknown: How did the the polio
spread there in the first place?
Doctors tell me this was a
combination of factors. You
know, you have children Scott
that haven't had access to
vaccines, but also most of
Gaza's hospitals have been
destroyed or closed. You also
have wastewater treatment plants
and desalination plants that
have been bombed, so people have
been drinking dirty water to
survive. And we know from the
Gaza health ministry that more
than 40,000 people have been
killed by Israeli fire in this
war, but we don't have a tally
for people who've died from
illness. However, we know
there's been a huge spike in
kids with infections and
diarrhea. Children are hungry.
They are malnourished. They're
living in these overcrowded
shelters open in tents with weak
immune systems.
And do we know how widespread
polio could now be in Gaza?
Well,
there's already been a case
confirmed in a 10 month old baby
boy who was active and crawling,
and he's now paralyzed in one
leg after contracting polio, and
he is the first case of polio in
a quarter century in Gaza. Now
it comes after the Gaza Health
Ministry and the World Health
Organization, they sounded the
alarm on this in July when they
announced that the polio virus
had been found in sewage water
flowing in the streets around
the tents of displaced people,
and there are now at least two
other suspected cases as well.
Now the symptoms for polio show
in one out of every 100 to 1000
people. So the doctors I spoke
with say this means 1000s of
people in Gaza likely already
have contracted polio. It is
spreading, and one doctor called
it a powder keg.
John C Dvorak: Hey,
asymptomatic, that's a new one.
Adam Curry: Asymptomatic polio,
because Did they mention they're
doing PCR testing? Because
that's what I would suspect.
John C Dvorak: And no. In fact,
let me mention this. There was a
lead. Be clear, there was a PBS
had almost the identical report
as the NPR report. It was, it
was uncanny. I recorded both of
them. I said, what? I can't use
both of these almost identical.
They. This is a program. This
has been put out for a reason. I
think the four kind of explains
part of the reason. And it was
very
Adam Curry: I actually have
three clips from the NPR, I
don't know if you want to hear
them after yours, but no, this
is, this is NPR, oh, I'm sorry,
you said PBS. Yes. Okay, here we
go. No, I
John C Dvorak: said PBS. Had the
identical report, and I had to
decide which. Yeah, you took we
both
Adam Curry: got. NPR, okay, no
problem.
John C Dvorak: And so here's
cake. I'm sorry, here's the end.
Unknown: Yes, powder keg. And
that powder keg would present a
risk to other neighboring
countries, wouldn't it? Oh,
Adam Curry: wow. NPR is really
rocking the edits these days.
That's
Unknown: great. That powder keg
would present a risk to other
neighboring countries, wouldn't
it. Whoa.
Extremely so. I mean, you know,
for weeks now, you have Israel's
military vaccinating its own
soldiers, even if they've
already been vaccinated against
polio before, because polio
spreads through water systems,
aquifers and in droplets in the
air. And so not only could the
virus spread to Israel, Egypt
and Jordan, it could also reach
Europe and the US. You know, two
years ago, an unvaccinated
Orthodox Jewish man in upstate
New York contracted polio, and
the virus spread there, and the
strain of that virus was traced
to Jerusalem and London, where
there's frequent travel back and
forth. And so to try to
understand more about this, I
reached out to Dr Jeffrey
Goldhagen. He is a pediatric
professor at the University of
Florida and a global health
expert, there
is no reason not to expect the
disease to spread from Gaza to
the surrounding countries, to
unvaccinated communities in
Israel, and from there to
Europe, the UK and United
States. Only way of stopping the
spread is by a successful,
rigorous polio vaccine campaign,
Adam Curry: okay? Oh, hold on.
First of all, very anti semitic
report, NPR, you're making
people afraid of Jews, because
you know that Jew might have
polio. Second, are we now going
to see the campaign in Europe
and in the United States to to
get your polio booster?
John C Dvorak: Well, did you
hear the little the little
gotcha in there was the Israeli
armed forces were getting a
shot, whether they had a shot or
not or not. Yeah, so it's a
booster. So they're gonna try to
this is a money maker.
Adam Curry: This is genocide.
This is my opinion. And what
happened to cholera, good old
cholera. That's, that's our
John C Dvorak: is coming. That's
kidding. It's
Adam Curry: our disease of
choice.
John C Dvorak: You gotta do
these one at a time.
Adam Curry: So. Put it in the
Red Book, cholera on deck for
Gaza. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: cholera should
have been I would have guessed
that cholera would come up in
the timeline before polio. Me
too. But no, they've decided to
go with polio. You watch
Adam Curry: it's coming,
everybody. You got to get a
booster for polio. Babies in
America, babies,
Unknown: oh man,
Adam Curry: so disheartened.
Never let up. They don't Well,
speaking of Never Letting up,
this is one of your favorite
topics. There's a
Unknown: growing movement of
social media influencers
promoting raw or unpasteurized
milk. Wow. It's coincided with a
recent spike, by
Adam Curry: the way, is raw
milk? By definite, is that or
unpasteurized? Is the is raw is
unpasteurized equals raw milk.
John C Dvorak: I think it would,
yeah, yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: these darn social,
probably on Tiktok, these
horrible influencers promoting
Unknown: raw or unpasteurized
milk, milk, it's coincided with
a recent spike in sales across
the country. Half of US states
giving farmers the power to sour
raw milk direct to consumers.
Adam Curry: We got to know we
got on alive those farmers. It
is good
Unknown: for business, but
health officials say the
consequences could be dangerous.
Chanel call on
John C Dvorak: a second stop
when he said it's good for what
business for the for the farm
business to sell raw milk, it's
a pain in the ass. Yes, we have
a raw milk dairy up in near
Port, Angeles, and we go there
all the time. This guy, they
have to work like, 10 times
harder than a normal dairy,
yeah, to produce raw milk, it is
not good for business.
Adam Curry: No, I'm with you.
I'm with you. But maybe there's
polio in the raw milk. You never
know on this dairy farm in here.
Yes, coming Arrington,
Unknown: Delaware, we take a
clean towel off of the team.
Stephanie Knutson is busy
milking her cows. So the cows
are milked twice a day. This
milk gets pasteurized and sold
at grocery stores across the
country. She's a good doobie.
We're milking her into this
bucket milk are down here, but
come January, Knutson hopes to
sell it raw. We have always
drank raw milk and that we
produce on the farm. I'm a big
proponent of this being
regulated. People are having a
heart and regulation could soon
be coming as Delaware considers
legalizing the sale of raw milk,
amid a recent and growing
movement online. I drink
raw cream in my coffee every
morning. Raw Farm Show me raw
farm dairy. If I'm going to do
milk, it's going to be raw milk
that I get at the farmer's
market. Celebrities,
influencers, even some
politicians, are endorsing raw
milk, milk that is not been
pasteurized or boiled to kill
dangerous germs
Adam Curry: like polio. We had
due to climate change. Now it's
due to raw milk polio. So let's
bring in Dr gounder. You'll
recall, she is the one who
John C Dvorak: would before you
do that, it just comes across.
I'm thinking, this raw milk,
anti raw milk thing has been
going on for I know we've been
covering it for over a year.
Adam Curry: Oh, much longer than
that.
John C Dvorak: And I like to
know why, why is it? Why is it
an issue? Who cares? It's a very
small minority of dairies that
even try to make it, and most of
them are over regulated already,
because you have to have a lot
of inspections, because you have
to be careful. There
Adam Curry: it is, more
inspections, more inspections,
control of the food supply.
Hello. It's about control.
That's all that. It's not about
your health. It's about control.
That's the that's the only thing
I can see. What else is it?
Well, maybe Dr gounder can help
us understand. We
Unknown: ask CBS News Medical
contributor, Doctor Celine
gounder to weigh in.
There is no nutritional benefit
from drinking raw milk. People
like the idea of it. Maybe they
think it tastes better. Maybe
they think it's, quote, more
natural, yes, but it's really no
more natural than drinking water
that has not been treated,
Adam Curry: which I also drink
out of my well and all that
bacteria can lead to health
problems like polio, E
Unknown: coli, Campylobacter,
salmonella, these can give you
fever, abdominal pain, diarrhea,
kidney failure. Listeria can
cause fetal abnormalities, even
fetal death. This
year, doctors found high
concentrations of the bird flu
virus in the raw milk of
infected dairy cattle.
Salmonella outbreak linked to
raw milk sickened 170 people on
the West Coast. Oh,
Adam Curry: no, oh, bird flu in
your milk. No. Good. Let's wrap
it up here these crazy
influencers. We've got to put a
stop to this. So
Unknown: why is raw milk
popularity and access still
growing? I
think this goes back to people's
lack of trust in public health
and wanting to feel like they
can make choices for themselves.
Unfortunately, in this case,
that is not the healthy choice
the
CDC, the American Academy of
Pediatrics and the American
Medical Association all agree.
But in a bid to help struggling
dairy farmers, it's been very
difficult to
operate on the positive side of
things
for 20 some years now, more than
half of US states created a
pathway for raw milk to be sold
directly to consumers within
state lines. With raw milk, we
can set the price, and that
national average price for raw
milk is 10 to $14 a gallon from
our co op. You know, we might be
getting a buck 50 a gallon. So
without federal oversight, the
standards are inconsistent.
States have been left to come up
with their own rules. They are
really, literally all over the
place, from pretty much
incidental sales being totally
unregulated, and all you have to
do is put a warning label on it
to say it's unpasteurized to
other states that require, you
know, a lot more high level
testing, while doctors still
warn against consumption,
farmers like the knudsens see an
opportunity. She's opt to meet
this growing milk market. It can
absolutely help us to thrive,
not just survive.
Adam Curry: Well, it's a very
confusing series of reports
there, other than I'm afraid to
drink it.
John C Dvorak: You know, what's
annoying about these reporting,
this reporting and these
reports, is they say stuff like,
Well, yeah, and then some states
don't do this, and some states
do that, and some states, what
states are we talking about?
Named the states? What kind of
reporting is it to say some
states do this and some states
do that without telling us
specifically the states? Does it
take that much work for a
reporter to make a phone call
find out what the states are
apparently? Is it too much work
to tell the public that they're
reporting to what states they're
talking about.
Adam Curry: Is it reporting, or
is it mind control?
John C Dvorak: You tell me,
yeah. All I know is that these
this journalism sucks. It
stinks. There's no details
whatsoever this like, oh, it's
up 10% what does that mean?
Adam Curry: Are you are you
done? Yeah, I'm
John C Dvorak: John, C, D, bore
today.
Adam Curry: Well, they mentioned
the bird flu, which has kind of
fallen by the wayside, which is
very slip that in, yeah. Well,
we've, we've, I have one bird
flu report we just had last
weekend, the Gillespie County
Fair, which is the large, the
oldest fair in the state of
Texas, and right around the
corner from the Texas State
Fair. Yep, this is the one. This
is the oldest Texas State Fair I
have not, Oh, it's great. I've
John C Dvorak: been there. Well,
it's one of the best state fairs
in the country.
Adam Curry: Well, we have the,
we have the oldest here in
Galatia. It was, it was cute.
You know, we had throughout the
you know, there's everyone with
their prize cows and their pigs
and and cowboys everywhere. No,
it was nice. It was kind of old
school
John C Dvorak: auction by a pig.
Yep, they
Adam Curry: had the auction.
John C Dvorak: Did you buy a pig
on the hoof?
Adam Curry: No, I didn't go. Are
you kidding me? It was too hot.
However, in Minnesota, they have
a state fair with new
regulations.
Unknown: Sounds of The Steele
County Fair are in full force.
That includes a melody
of moves, Melody
Maddie Murphy brought her cow
named collarbone, hoping for the
top pro. It's
exciting.
I love doing it with bird flu
infecting some Minnesota cows
this year, collarbone needed to
be tested before she could
appear and
Adam Curry: notice the music
change.
Unknown: Bird Flu infecting some
Minnesota
cows this year, collarbone
needed to be tested before she
could appear at the fair. We
have to make
sure to test all the cows. Are
milking cows and make sure that
they're negative before we bring
them into the barn.
Minnesota Health officials are
requiring testing of some cows
for the h5 and one virus at
county fairs and State Fair.
Have
to take extra precautions, like
we did during covid. This is the
first
time at the Steele County Fair,
they've ever had to do this type
of testing.
This year is a little bit
different. It's a little
stressful for all of us. Sandy
jurly with the fair, make sure
the tests have been done. As the
trailers come in, I ask for
their paperwork. Wait. Feel it's
very important. We we don't want
to have any of our animals come
down with this. The Minnesota
Department of Animal Health
feels it's important, so we're
going to follow what they're
requesting. We
Adam Curry: do what we are told
to do papers. Please of your
cow, yes, test your cows. Yeah,
you obey? Yes, you will obey.
Indeed. I'd like melody of
moves.
John C Dvorak: I wrote a
Dennis's show title. Yeah, it's
a possibility.
Adam Curry: Let me just there's
some messaging here in this, in
these two Ukraine stories, it's
a two stories, but basically
the, you know, it's the same
story, but two reports with two
similar, I think, messages which
need to be discussed, and these
come from let me see, is this a
US report? No, I think these are
foreign, foreigner reports.
Unknown: Al, let's talk about a
subject that we have talked
about so often here, the Russia,
Ukraine war, and the fact that
US made us provided f 16 are now
flying in the skies of this
Adam Curry: us made. You know, F
16 are sold to people and
countries all over the world.
But then they have to point out
it's us made. Well, yeah. You
know, we make all the stuff and
Unknown: the fact that US made
us provided f 16 are now flying
in the skies of Ukraine in this
war there. But the Wall Street
Journal, our friend Laura
Seligman, had this scoop today
us how, and this is what she is
reporting. I want to read from
her article that a Ukrainian
pilot was killed in combat when
his F 16 jet fighter crashed on
Monday, just weeks after the
first of the American made
aircraft arrived in Ukraine. Now
this is according to both us and
Ukrainian officials, according
to Laura seligmans reporting,
she goes on to say the pilot
died while helping to repel a
massive Russian missile attack.
Monday, initial reports indicate
the jet was not shot down by
enemy fire. Us. Officials said
the Pentagon referred questions
to the Ukrainian Air Force for
comment. The Ukrainian Air Force
acknowledged the crash and
pilots death in a statement
today, Ukraine used the jets for
the first time in combat to
shoot down Russian missiles
during the strikes this week,
according to President Volodymyr
Zelensky. Okay,
Adam Curry: so we have us. Made
us. Made us, made and it comes
back in the second report,
Unknown: Ukraine's president
announced the sacking of the air
force chief in his nightly
address, he didn't give a
specific reason, but The move
came days after an F 16 fighter
jet delivered to Ukraine earlier
this month from its Western
allies was shot down. Ukraine
initially said the US made F 16
was shot down by Russian forces,
but military analysts suspect it
may have been downed in a case
of friendly fire. Zelensky
statement did not go into
detail, a probe into the crash
is underway. Us. Ukrainian and
foreign military analysts are
investigating the potential
causes. They speculate the
warplane was shot down
accidentally by Ukraine itself
using the country's us
manufactured Patriot missile
system.
Adam Curry: So a US made F 16
was shot down by a US made
Patriot missile, which I believe
to be true. What is this
messaging? What am I not
understanding? Or what are they
trying to say? Here I
John C Dvorak: got one report,
which may include some of this
information from my Ukraine
clip, but the guy who is the
head of the Ukrainian Air Force
was fired, fired, yeah, of
course. And that was mentioned
in those reports.
Adam Curry: We just mentioned
it. He did. Were you not
listening to my report? I
John C Dvorak: was listening to
I was listening specifically to
hear that, and I didn't hear it.
He
Adam Curry: literally said,
Zelensky fired his air force
chief. Oh, yeah, missed it
somehow, yeah. Well, because you
are too busy, think I got a
better clip than that.
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
better clip than that. Well, no,
of course you could, I said,
have a different clip. Well, you
were thinking about it. Maybe
it's possible he was he may have
caught me in a moment of thought
Adam Curry: or fog. Who knows?
Unknown: Just play this clip. So
today, a Russian guided bomb
attack on Ukraine's second
largest city killed at least
five people and injured dozens
more. Authorities in Kharkiv say
the bombs hit five locations
across the city, including a
playground where at least one
child died. Others were killed
in a nearby apartment building
that caught fire as a result of
that attack. Meantime, in
Washington, Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin met with his
Ukrainian counterpart today and
condemned Moscow's recent wave
of strikes on civilian
infrastructure. Let
me be clear. Let me be clear.
Let me be clear. It is never,
never acceptable to target
civilians, and Ukraine's
resilience will help it prevent.
Over Putin's aggression and
atrocities. Separately,
Ukraine's president has fired
the country's Air Force
Commander after an F 16 war
plane supplied by Ukraine's
Western allies crashed earlier
this week. U S experts have
joined the investigation into
why the jet went down during a
Russian missile and drone
barrage on Monday. Well,
Adam Curry: they didn't use the
US made moniker, which is no the
scios. They,
John C Dvorak: I think they.
Well, where'd you get that other
clip?
Adam Curry: Well, I think the
first one must have been a US
one. I don't have it marked,
sadly. The second one was
France, 24 I believe the first
one, I'm unsure where it came
from.
John C Dvorak: There's some
reason they were saying that
they're not us here, because I
think we're not that dumb. Well,
Adam Curry: I would like to
point out that we are a US made
podcast. We are and I have a
possible exit strategy that's
been staring us in the face for
a long time.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I have to
point out to you that Mimi's
objecting to this concept.
Adam Curry: Do you even know
what my concept is? It doesn't
matter. Oh,
John C Dvorak: she says that
every time you mention exit
strategy, it gives her a The
Chill, chill, uh huh. And she's
she says is a triggering. It's
triggering, and she says it's
hurting donations.
Adam Curry: Well, what if I told
her that we could with with our
Dutch masters, we could bring in
maybe five, $600 million as an
exit strategy? Would that give
her a different billionaire
John C Dvorak: hurt donations
we've had bet that'll hurt
donations more? They got that
much money? Well, they don't
need mine,
Adam Curry: really now. So
you're saying that our joke
about exit strategy, which will
never achieve and have been
talking about for almost 17
years. I think show number 10 we
were talking about, how do we
get out of this gig that's been
hurting donations.
John C Dvorak: She says, Yes,
let me be clear. But what is
this? I want to hear this. Oh,
you're interested. You're
interested. Well, I'm
interested. I'm just telling
you, we're good. Donations are
going to be down because of it.
Adam Curry: Well, that you're
possibly right. But what do we
have with our artists? We have a
number of our artists who are
what talented talent, but I'm
talking about they have talent.
Yes, they're talented. And
John C Dvorak: there is, there's
a number of artists. Now this is
different, by the way, yeah, we
got have become Yes, yes, of the
highest order, yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. So I've
identified a trend that, well,
I've identified it because CNBC
gave me a clip about it. The the
trend is, you want to play the
clip, now play the clip, and
then you tell me that we can't
incorporate with some of our
expert prompt jockeys. And I
think every single one of our
artists could do this, I
John C Dvorak: think we get at
least 10, well, professional
prompt jockeys that are
languishing so in the in the
world. So what is the
languishing? What is because
they're not being exploited as
they should be? And most
artists, by the way, want to be
exploited, because they like to
get their stuff out
Adam Curry: of there. That's
right. So what is the big
problem with artificial
intelligence, with all these AI
startup companies, I don't know
what. They're not making any
money there. Never will exactly,
they're not making any money.
And this is what's happening
Unknown: character. AI was one
of the most promising startups
in the age of generative. Ai,
personalized AI, highly
engaging, loyal user base, $150
million in funding at a billion
dollar valuation.
Character.ai launched its
software last September, and has
had more than 173
million visits last month, a 61%
increase from March and a
founder who pioneered generative
AI, there was just one problem,
the startup couldn't make money.
And according to reports, it
struggled to generate enough
revenue from paid users.
Character
AI, billion dollar valuation,
pre revenue, very much feels
like the 2010 app store, where
you gain a lot of users and kind
of figure out the monetization
later. So it
turned to a well established
money printing mega cap Google,
which was happy to cut a deal,
especially since it was arguably
more interested in the talent
than the technology. Character,
AI, co founder Noam shazier was
an author of a groundbreaking
paper that laid the foundation
for today's age of AI. It would
bring shazier back to Google,
along with a fifth of his
employees in licensed characters
technology without having to
outright buy the startup in an
acquisition. It's a playbook
that skirts the regulatory
crackdown on big tech dominance
provides an exit for AI startups
struggling to make money, and
allows mega caps to pick up the
talent needed in the AI arms
race.
There's a. Very small number of
researchers, AI practitioners
that operate at the frontier of
the technology. There's probably
only 1000s right now. And the
hyperscalers, the mega caps,
want that talent, and they're
looking to get it any way they
can.
Adam Curry: How about it? We
just value ourselves at a
billion dollars, and they, they
buy us because we can't make any
of
John C Dvorak: that though they
just stole the talent. Well,
yeah, but, but this is what Hold
on a second. This is the worst
aspect of Silicon Valley. This
is why everyone keeps everything
a secret. You have a bunch of
talented guys running this
company, and they have investors
of 160 or whatever that number
was, million dollars, of people
who put angels and Sequoia, who
knows who was involved. And
then, instead of them getting
their payback, which they
expect, they have their whole
team ripped out from under them
and taken to Google because they
who was too cheap to buy out the
company, which was valued at a
billion dollars, which is like
falling off a log for Google.
They could, they could afford a
billion dollars in in a drop of
a hat. This is bull crap. I'm
very upset by this.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, it's
because of regulatory oversight
that they're doing that.
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is
better, yes, screwing the
investors to that extreme.
Adam Curry: The investors get
the licensing fee, don't you see
it not
John C Dvorak: getting anything,
is what they're getting.
Adam Curry: It's the end of AI
John, that's what it is. They're
just bringing in more people to
say we've got the best people.
John C Dvorak: Well, Google's is
notorious for doing a crappy job
of anything other than search
Yes and also selling data. Yes,
everything else is a joke. Yes,
Adam Curry: I'm so there's that.
I didn't mean to upset you.
John C Dvorak: I'm just, I'm
upset on behalf of the
investors.
Adam Curry: What do you want? An
LP at Kleiner Perkins,
John C Dvorak: I wish. But no, I
don't wish. I'd be broke.
Adam Curry: All right, one quick
trip to Germany. The far right
is a big problem. If you think
that it's just America that has
Maga, they've got Maga
Unknown: as the sun sets over
Dresden, anger among the far
right rises far rise before
voters take to the
Adam Curry: polls. Boy, they
sound really angry. Did you hear
that clapping? That was very
angry clapping upcoming regional
Unknown: elections. These people
believe they represent the
majority view in the east of
Germany, arguing
multiculturalism is threatening
their way of life.
We want change to Germany,
because here in Germany, so much
refugees, and from this, from
the refugees, is coming so much
crimes, murdered and soling the
AfD has tapped into high anti
immigration sentiment, a view
that is likely to translate into
votes. These posters are
plastered on almost every
lamppost. They read, sun,
Summer, remigration, another
homeland, not multiculturalism.
This local AFD candidate blames
a lack of border control for
last week's fatal knife attack.
You know what has happened in
Seoul England
that, of course, makes people
angry.
There are rapes that doesn't
every day, the
AfD are expected to win big, a
potent signal just over a year
before the next national
election, party leaders say they
must take back control.
Join us in making sure that the
whole of Germany brings a sigh
relief on September 1, thank you
for your support for our
homeland, for Germany, for
Saxony.
Adam Curry: So there you go.
They
John C Dvorak: said homeland, as
opposed to fatherland
hinterland,
Adam Curry: and this is exactly
what happened in France. The far
right came out in droves.
Everyone's voting, and then the
the left went, Oh, well, we're
all gonna we're all gonna just
say no, and we're all gonna get
together. And they've been
without a, literally, without a
government, without a prime
president or prime minister,
ever, yeah, ever since the
election six weeks ago and and
it's still no sign of
breakthrough. More than six
weeks after snap legislative
elections, France still has no
proper government. Macron began
a new round of political
negotiations on Wednesday aimed
at finding a viable Prime
Minister amid a hung parliament,
in a break with tradition,
Macron is refusing to appoint a
prime minister from the
winningest party in July's vote,
the left wing, new Popular Front
Alliance came in first place,
but without an actual majority,
the President is instead trying
to cobble together a new
coalition with conservatives,
but striking out there as. Well,
he's sent to head to Serbia for
a two day visit on Thursday, but
he's squeezing in some meetings
before he leaves, so they're
just not doing governments
anymore.
John C Dvorak: You know, the
administrative state runs these
countries, including ours, ours.
You don't need a government.
It's just a facade.
Unknown: But well, there you go.
Prove
John C Dvorak: me wrong. No,
Adam Curry: I can't prove you
wrong. You have a lot of clips
left over, so if you have
anything you'd like to share
with the group,
John C Dvorak: well, let's get
this, some of these old clips
out of the way. What's this
podcast clip? Oh, yes, this is
the podcast. This is all of a
sudden, we've got all kinds of
issues because serial the
podcast actually did some
damage. Don't know if it's good
or bad, but play the clip.
Maryland's
Unknown: Supreme court has
ordered a redo of the hearing
that freed Adnan Syed over
concerns about the rights of the
victim's family. It's the latest
twist and illegal drama that was
the focus of the Serial podcast,
which propelled the case to
national attention. Syed was
convicted more than two decades
ago for killing his high school
ex girlfriend. He was freed in
2022 only to have his conviction
reinstated a year later, one of
the dissenting judges in today's
ruling did not mince words,
writing that the case is, quote,
a procedural zombie. It has been
reanimated despite its
expiration. Syed will remain
free as a lower court considers
whether to throw out his
conviction.
Adam Curry: Man, they missed the
best part. So the Serial
podcast, which launched in 2014
and became a sensation around
2016 Yes, reinvigorated
podcasting. There's no doubt
about it, people would just love
that it came at the moment.
Everybody was binge watching
Breaking Bad five seasons in a
weekend and showing up to work
on Monday with dark circles
under their eyes and and did you
know that season four of serial
launched, came and went just in
the past, I haven't followed it
at all. Nobody. In fact, the
producer, Sarah Koenig, she
says, you know, it was complete
dud. No made no money, no one
cared. No one listened. I mean,
no, obviously somebody listened.
And so now here you have a a
great tee up for wherever this
report came from to say, serial
Season Four is PBS. Serial
Season Four is currently
available wherever you get your
podcasts, but they didn't even
get that. So I think it's very
sad that cereal didn't get,
didn't get a plug of that
nature. And be okay, well, this
is the old cereal, but the new
cereal, no, nothing. Crickets
fail.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to make of it. Yeah. Well, maybe
it's hard to do that kind of
podcast and continually do it.
It reminds me of the thing was
an HBO show called the detective
or something. It was with for
they had a season of it. It was
all specials, like a, like a
mini series. Are
Adam Curry: you talking about
true true detective. True
Detective? Yeah. My butt, my
buddy, wrote and produced and
directed that the first season,
all three seasons. Well, the
first season was a killer with
Woody Harrelson, yeah, yeah. And
then it dropped off. And now,
now what That's Nick pizzlato,
he lived, he he moved. Uh, yeah.
Well,
John C Dvorak: I admire the fact
that you know the guy. But what
happened, he cleaned up was
missing from the second and
third season.
Adam Curry: What happened is he
cleaned up on season three.
Like, massive, massive payout.
Yeah, it's good for him. Yeah,
that's yeah, of course. But that
isn't that with everything. I
mean, have you seen, have you
gone to see the Wolverine and
Deadpool yet? I mean, what did
they do? $11 million in the
opening weekend. People are sick
of these things. They're sick of
the repeats. They're sick of the
sequels.
John C Dvorak: They want what
happened to serial Yeah, they
Adam Curry: want original
programming twice a week,
John C Dvorak: couple hours
worth on Thursday and Sunday.
It's called the no
Adam Curry: agenda show.
Everybody I'm gonna show my
Unknown: salute by donating to
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fabulous.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right.
This is where we thank people
who came in $50 and above or
above. And of course, we once
again want to thank everybody
who was a sustaining donor. We
will be bringing a night and a
dame on stage today here at the
round table, who have just been
supporting on sustaining
donations on a layaway plan for
as long as they wanted to do it.
And there's some birthday
things. And do you want me to
read the book? I'm gonna
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna throw
it to you. Toss it to me. When
we get to the 6388 and down to
the 60s, all for you. Yes, I'm
Adam Curry: very excited. I love
people saying happy birthday. I
can't get enough of it.
John C Dvorak: Read it. I got a
chuckle. Yeah, don't pee
yourself when you're doing this.
Read, sorry, I already
Harrington is sparks. Nevada
starts to solve it 160 bucks.
She does say, Happy Birthday
Adam. And she's following at 160
bucks. ITM ITM anonymous in a
Bucharest, oh, Bucharest. In
Bucharest, Romania, nice 105. 35
but she's actually in South
Africa. Oh, no, she he's the
anonymous South African here
temporarily. He also sent an
emergency note in this morning
saying that he wants to call out
the other anonymous South
African. He wants to call him
out as a douchebag. Now, we
don't know who these people are.
No but there, there are people.
Leroy. Leroy Pacheco in Santa
Fe, New Mexico, $100 and he
says, happy birthdays. John
Adam, well, thank you, sir
Spencer in Sherwood Park,
Alberta, Canada, $100 Sir Brian
Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas,
9063, there's another birthday
call out. So you're getting
birthdays all over, beautiful.
Thank you. Kevin McLaughlin,
lover of or he's the Archduke of
lunar lover. American boobs
comes in with his boob donation
from Concord, North Carolina,
808. And does not wish you a
happy birthday. Oh. Manuel
Medeiros in Tracy, California,
75 bucks for some shenanigans.
Sean Simmons in Stanford,
Virginia, 6969 and now we began
with 69 we begin with the I just
want to bring that right with
Mark Hall, your buddy, and
starts us off in there. You've
got it, and you can read and
thank these people for thanking
you. That's right.
Adam Curry: I'll just read the
name and and location and any
note and know that these are all
basically 60s. For some reason,
Sir Mark Hall paid more for the
fees. He says, Happy 60s. Adam,
welcome to the sexy 60s. Sean
Douglas Glen, you
John C Dvorak: wait stop. Mark
Hall mentions that you're 11
years older than he is. No,
that's right, you should know
that. That's
Adam Curry: Sean Douglas the
next line. Oh, okay, but thanks.
Not just 11 years, but 11 years
and one day older than him. $60
to celebrate your birthday, and
49 for him, okay? And he also
took care of the PayPal fees.
God bless. Thank you. Sean
Alexander stalinski stavinsky,
Denver, Colorado. Happy
birthday. Adam Bratt, summer is
over. Arno from am from heart to
Feder. John de Santi Belford,
New Jersey, happy birthday.
Adam, you're old. Thanks. That
makes me feel good. Do four
Creative Services? Elkhart,
Indiana, happy six. Oh. Adam,
Dame slamy Bastrop, Texas, from
Dame slay me. Happy birthday.
Podfather, PayPal is being dumb,
so this is $60 plus fees. Thank
you for your courage. Anonymous.
Fairfield, Ohio, happy birthday.
Adam, I prefer anonymous.
Anonymity, done. Sarah Gardner,
happy birthday. Adam. Danny
Hayes, God bless you. Adam,
numbers 624, and 226, I shall
check. Oh, I know what that is.
That's the God Shola. Shyness.
Face upon you. I think. Robert
Rowell, congrats on not dying.
Ah, so uplifting. Thank you.
Robert Stokes, happy birthday.
Adam servant, happy 60 is not
bad. I've survived six years of
it. Yeah, you're older than me.
Brother. Eric Adler, look to
fail to see him, but you pod
father, sure. Eric Baronet of
the fat point, gadget freak 10.
Happy birthday. Adam surveilled.
Happy birthday. Adam surveilled.
Viconn of FEMA Region number
four. Teresa Gannon, no note,
6229 so that's with the fees, I
guess. Marianne Schmidt, happy
birthday. Adam. 60 plus fees
party on Dame Christina pearl.
She was at the birthday party,
the surprise party. Happy
birthday, Adam, Dame Christina
Pearl, and of course, Sir
Robert, Charles, both of them
were there. You know, she gave
me a special Southwest Airlines
luggage tag that you can only
have if you're a crew member.
And apparently it gets you
benefits when you're walking
around the airport with it,
which is cool, praise God, says.
Christopher Altman, with the $60
donation plus fee, sir, hold my
beer. Happy birthday, Adam. Hold
my beer. Jennifer rain, Oh, wow.
Happy 60s birthday. Adam. Black
Knight, sir. Last row. Happy
Birthday to Adam from Black
Knight, sir, last row and the
Laster Farmstead, official. No
agenda. Egg smugglers, yes,
bring some by. I like those blue
and green eggs you got. Randy
Balzer says, Happy Birthday,
sharing my beer money with you.
Happy with you. Adam, Happy
Happy Birthday. From Susan
Erickson, happy 60th curry, sir,
dude and chick from Bastrop
Texas. Sharon Searle, because
time itself was. Like a spiral.
Something special happens on
your birthday each year. The
same energy that God invested in
you at birth is present once
again. Menache, Mendel
Schneerson, Beth Zen, barrister,
all right. Lisa Pyles with a
birthday donation. Randy
O'Rourke with a happy one for
me. Thank you, Dame Janet and
Sir Island, dog go dogs with a
birthday donation. Lee Doolin
from the UK, happy birthday,
Adam, congrats on the day to say
zero. Here's to you guys never
finding an exit strategy. My
Friday and Monday mornings would
never be the same. UK listener,
of course, that's why Baron OG
podcaster and the lovely lady
Leanne i That must be Steve
Webb, happy 60th, Adam, may this
be your best year ever. My
brother Annika, Anka Schneider.
Schneider. Anka anchor. She's
from Quebec, Quebec, Verdun,
Quebec. ITM John and happy
birthday, Adam. PS, please
deduce me.
Unknown: You've been deduced.
Adam Curry: And she would like
an additional baby karma later
on, which I'm happy to divulge
after we're done with all these
at the end. Brian Mickey Prague,
Oklahoma, 6033 Simon Reid
Scarsdale, New York. Happy
birthday. No jingles, no karma.
Happy birthday. Podfather says
Sir Chris of sexy. William
Wellborn in Georgia, 6033, happy
birthday. Adams are becoming
heroic. May small boobs surround
you and protect you. Oh, thank
you. Please credit this to fair
volt T, happy birthday, Adam C,
hope you have a wonderful day.
Thank you and JCD for your
everlasting courage. Adam's
birthday, from Daniella Pompeo
and Abby to the birthday list.
Says, Brent Dombrowski, you got
it along with me, I guess, the
same birthday. Sir Scotland de
brave, long Mayor lumeric, he
says, and all the Scottish
lairds and ladies. Then a couple
more 60s here from Saras, from
Stefan Anders, Sarah steinlin,
Douglas Enstrom, Baron Victor,
who is also 60. He says Baron
sir phenom. Jason Babcock,
Robert Ballard, happy 60th uncle
Adam says sir Stewart, looking
forward to celebrating my 60s in
a few months as well. He's the
Angry accountant from the UK.
Happy birthday. Adam. Long live
the no agenda show. John Le
Clerc, Oh sir. Quijibu from
Luxembourg. Patrick cannon with
the $60 Rita Harrington, happy
birthday, Adam, can I get a
deduction you've been deduced?
The deducing is for Paul racco.
Rochelle Rocco, he's a knight,
but that's due to others
donating on my behalf.
Shamefully, his first donation.
And then we're at 5856 so I'm
gonna toss it to you. Bob.
John C Dvorak: Matthew Markel
starts us off at Broomall,
Pennsylvania, 5856 he calls the
soy boys, by the way, no nice.
Les Tarkowski in Kingman,
Arizona. 58 Mark Hardwick in
Alito, Texas. 5333 Stefan
truckles In Sust Deutschland,
5272 we had a lot of Germans. I
like that. Joseph Morocco in
Florida. 5225 David Deloria in
Santa, Clarita, California, 5060
calls it an ugly Zoe Lofgren
donation, sir Lady Boy in Mount
Laurel, New Jersey. 5060
Brandon. Locklear and sugar,
Bill Georgia. 50, Scott McCarty
in Lodi, California. Tony Lang,
these are 50s. These are all
50s. Tony Lang and Castle Pines,
uh, Colorado. 50, Jordan,
Tierney and oral, oral, South
Dakota, as opposed to the other
part of South Dakota, Jordan,
hoyno in Salem, Oregon, Leslie
Walker in Roseburg, Oregon. Lot
of Oregonians here, yeah. Says,
Love you guys. And last on our
list here is Aichi Kitagawa in
San Francisco, California. I
want to thank these folks, all
of them, for wishing Adam and
happy birthday, and also for
supporting show, 1516,
Adam Curry: 91 you want 91 yes.
Appreciate it. Thank you,
everybody under 50, as we
mentioned previously, karma of
the baby making variety, as
requested, coming your way right
now.
Unknown: You've got, oh, ah,
Adam Curry: karma, support the
show. Never an exit strategy. No
agenda, donations.com
shortlist today, outside of
myself, of course, Sophie wishes
her. Daughter, Kayla, happy one.
She turns 19 today. Baron bird
dog wishes his keeper and a very
happy birthday. And Brent
Dombrowski, who apparently
celebrates on the same day as I
do, which will be on Tuesday,
September 3, happy birthday.
Everybody from the Stafford
Management here at the best
podcast in the universe. We have
a dame and we have a knight,
both of them layaways. So I'll
start with the dame first. So
this is what is her name? Oh,
interesting. Okay. This is for
Anne John and Adam. Thank you
for your outstanding work. My
wife and I have been longtime
listeners and sustaining donors
Since 2016 please add my keeper
of 20 years and to the birthday
list. Did that for Sunday show.
I'd also like to have her damed.
I'm not sure what she wants her
Dame name to be, but with her
love of quitting and bee
quilting and beekeeping, let's
try Dame Annie the quilting bee.
Please add bacon wrapped moose
roast on the barbecue and gin
and tonic to the round table.
Can I get a Sharpton and a don't
Raff Well, of course you can
keep up the good work. And
remember, no agenda saves lives.
Don't
Unknown: laugh. Why you are
laughing? Shut up.
Espict,
Adam Curry: then we have our
layaway Knight. This is Mike
hoken hokan and Ho Ho Ho I think
hoken Adel the in the morning.
Gens, thank you for providing us
with the minty fresh media
deconstruction to cleanse
ourselves from the pre processed
junk that is the M 5m I
especially want to wish a happy
birthday to Adam as he hits the
big six. Oh, may his exit
strategy be quick and painless.
Yes, spitting in the mic. Shout
out to my lovely wife and kids.
They are my guiding light. I
would like to be known as Sir
hokey of the second floor
basement. Please deduce
Unknown: you've been deduced.
Adam Curry: And talk about your
random, random number theory.
Hook me up with a tech grouch
jingle if you have one lying
around. Uh, that's that's a
coincidence I happen to because
we played it earlier, sir. Hokey
of the second floor basement.
Thanks. He says, Mike, well,
here it is.
Unknown: Only good phone's a
landline, and the phone should
be made out of big light.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's
interesting. A classic. Well, we
already played the classic. All
right, let's bring them both up
on the table, John, if you don't
mind, very nice play, very good.
All right, please, up to the
podium here, Anne, Anne, Anna
and Mike coconado, I'm glad you
have a night named be a lot
easier for me. Both of you have
succeeded in achieving night and
Dame status thanks to your
support of the no agenda show
with your layaways. I'm very
proud to pronounce the KB as
Dame Annie the quilting bee and
Sir hokey of the second floor
basement for you. We've got
hookers and blow, rent poison,
Chardonnay, bacon wrapped moose
roast on the barbecue and a gin
and tonic along with the
rubenes, aluminum rose a we've
got the geishas and sake. We've
got vodka, Manila, bongots and
bourbon sparkling cider,
nescorch, ginger ale and
gerbils, breast milk and pablum.
Of course, that's raw milk. And
as always, the mutton and the
mead go to no agenda rings.com
and there you can see the
beautiful rings for knights and
for dames. And along with that
comes wax to use for sealing
your important correspondence.
Since it is a signet ring,
everyone can go take a look at
that, of course, and there's a
sizing guide. So let us know we
can send that off to you. And as
always, they all come with a
certificate of authenticity.
Welcome to the round table.
Enjoy your mutton and meat and
thank you for supporting the
best podcast in the universe.
It was basically, basically a
meet up in Fredericksburg, at
the surprise birthday party, we
had so many no agenda people
there was fantastic. Everybody
hanging out, having a good time.
And you can do one of these
yourself anywhere you want, by
going to no agenda meetups.com.
You can start a meet up. You can
do it, do it anywhere you want.
We recommend a bar that is
friendly to crowds, maybe with
an outdoor space. And always
remember to tip your your
servers. And North Georgia sent
in a report from their recent
meetup in the morning. Get mo
Unknown: nation, sir Bob here,
from the north Georgia monthly
meetup. Another great night,
another great turnout.
Let's hear what the slaves had
to say. Hello
dude named Ben here, but I've
never programmed in the morning,
Sean here,
my amygdala is filled with joy.
Hey, this
is take at alphatucky. Glad to
be here. I'm
still a douchebag. This is Sir R
I'm sitting here with two
archeologists, and I'm wondering
where is Graham Hancock in the
morning. This
is Jay. A good time was had by
all. Karen double doctor, sir.
Mike Ross. Here, if you have to
take a covid test, just Huck
Tura spit on that thing, not
medical advice. Connection is
protection.
Adam Curry: All right, there's a
meetup taking place today, the
first annual no agenda Antietam
battlefield meetup. I got the
pronunciation guide. Thank you.
That's at the Antietam National
Battlefield, Sharpsburg,
Maryland, and, oh, that was that
already passed. They're probably
wrapping up by now. The annual
South Jersey pig roast meetup
kicks off just about now at
Medford lakes, New Jersey and
Dane went of the lakes. Needed
you to RSVP, so I hope you did.
Looking forward to a report from
that one on Monday, Labor Day,
the adamantina were here meetup
that'll be at noon in Plymouth,
Massachusetts, 72 allenton
street that is at the monument
to the forefathers. And I expect
a report from Sir Hey citizen,
along with some pictures on
September 5, Thursday, our next
show day, the 805 rooftop meetup
at four o'clock in Goleta, HGI
rooftop Goleta, California, and
the northern wave public, public
slave gathering at six o'clock
at happy endings in Raleigh,
North Carolina. And finally, for
the next show, Denver, back to
the bar, meet up at 8:30pm
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado. Then, well one let you
know that on September 7, there
will be meetup in Anchorage,
Alaska. It's always a good time
up there. Aurora, Illinois, on
the seventh. On the eighth,
Indianapolis, keen New
Hampshire, Kernersville, North
Carolina, the 14th, along with
Chattanooga, Tennessee, Rohnert
Park, California Garden City,
Idaho, Fort Wayne, Indiana on
the 15th. St Augustine, Florida,
Tucson, Arizona on September 19,
Charlotte, North Carolina,
Bedford, Texas on the 21st with
San Diego. Goose Creek, South
Carolina on the 27th Richland,
Washington the 28th Dilber of
the Netherlands. Remember
October 18, Fredericksburg,
Texas, the big hill country
meetup. We will be there curry
and the keeper will be there,
along with many other
luminaries, no doubt, from the
hill country. And then there's
many more to come in October,
November, all the way through to
December, if you want a nice,
warm meetup in December, the
West Palm Beach Florida Meetup
is on December 15, if you want
to know more, if you want to
learn about them, if you want to
register for any of these, let
people know you're coming. Go to
no agenda meetups.com. If you
can't find one near you, then
start one yourself. It's easy
and always guarantee the party.
Sometimes
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with all
the nights and
days. It's like a party.
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby, like a
party. Always like a part.
They're fun. Meetups are fun. I
like doing meetups. Let's see I
have, I have a couple of ISOs
actually. Oh, I came loaded for
bear. Came loaded for bear. Can
I just roll out? I got 5123, I
got six, six. You want to hear
him?
John C Dvorak: Yes, here we go.
He
Unknown: is awful at Podcasting
Adam Curry: A little too long. I
actually have five. Here's the
next one. They don't know what
they're talking about. I kind of
like that one.
Unknown: I like that one. I
Adam Curry: like that one.
Unknown: The whole thing is
crazy.
Adam Curry: I'd like that one
too. That's
Unknown: it. And
same old, tired playbook.
Adam Curry: I think there's at
least one in there,
John C Dvorak: like the Pelosi
one.
Adam Curry: Yeah, what you got?
Okay, well,
John C Dvorak: I've got a bunch.
I've got four, so I'm almost
many. Yeah, let's start with
embarrassed. Embarrassed.
Unknown: We are not embarrassed
by any
Adam Curry: of it. Ah, little
echoey.
John C Dvorak: It's too echo
Yes, though, yeah,
Adam Curry: it won't punch
through.
John C Dvorak: Let's try the
classic. Thanks. Okay,
Adam Curry: thank you. Yeah
Pelosi, pleasure.
John C Dvorak: All right, always
Unknown: a pleasure.
John C Dvorak: Again. The last
on the list is awesome. Pretty
awesome.
Adam Curry: I don't think
anything tops Pelosi. Let's hear
it again.
Unknown: They don't know what
they're talking about. I
Adam Curry: mean, it slams us.
It's Pelosi. It's all the good
stuff. You got to admit.
John C Dvorak: Are we good?
Yeah, okay, Pelosi is always All
Adam Curry: right, ladies and
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Unknown: it.
And sometimes
John C Dvorak: this is a good
one. This is an offbeat This is
a. Product that people don't
even know exists. They're
Adam Curry: all good. By the
way. It's not just this one
that's good. They're all good.
John C Dvorak: This is padding
adhesive.
Adam Curry: Padding adhesive.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: yeah, if you've
ever had like, a bunch of, like,
a bunch of sheets or something
you wanted to make into a
notepad that you can tear off
page after page. Yeah, this is
what printers use when they make
you. You go over there and say,
I like to get a bunch of
notepads. And they make you a
bunch of notepads with your logo
at the top, or whatever size you
want. And then they're all,
they're all glued together with
this. What they use is the same
stuff you can buy called padding
adhesive. And you can get a
small jar of it, or you can get
a big gallon of it. It depends.
I mean, if you're you don't want
a big pile of it, because you're
not going to use it that often,
but when you use it, it's pretty
cool. I just did this recently
with a bunch of deposits slips
from the bank that would be
scattered around a drawer
normally, but I made him into a
notepad. I just used the padding
it. He's if you could use it
with you can paint it on the
edge, or you can make a little
dipping device and dip it in
there and make it and then let
it dry overnight. And you have a
notepad you tear off one after
the other. It's dynamite product
that nobody knows about. And
Adam Curry: how would I use that
in my life? Specifically,
John C Dvorak: do you ever have,
like, a bunch of, a bunch of you
ever have a notepad? Or do you
have a desire to have something
you could print yourself, or
something you it's you'll find
you'd find a use for it. Hmm,
Adam Curry: is it better than
paperclips or staples?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
cooler. Makes a cool little
product. You get a little it
tears off. It looks like it
looks professional. Okay,
Adam Curry: what is the name of
this product? Again,
John C Dvorak: you'd look it up.
There's a number of different
brands out there, and it's
called this one I have is CFS,
binding supplies, padding,
adhesive notepad adhesive. You
can use that notepad adhesive,
and you don't think much of it
at the time, but you'll find if
you had some, and it's rather
really expensive, you'd find a
use for it. I
Adam Curry: would recommend you
pick up one of these products
and take it to the office.
People will be amazed by your
ingenuity. You could even get a
raise. You
John C Dvorak: could get a
raise. That's right, here's,
here's, here's, here's something
you can use it for. If you want
to have some fun. You get, you
go to the bank, and you get a
pile of fresh dollar bills, yes,
dollar bills. And you stack them
up, you make sure that even and
you put the padding adhesive on
the end, and then put in your
wallet. And then, when you go to
the store, and you once, and
they ask for money, you tear off
piece after piece of the dollars
from this, from this notepad,
which is now a bunch of dollars,
10s, 20s, you can do with any
bill. Oh, they have to be
obviously brand new. So yeah,
make this work, yeah. Oh, and
that would get some attention.
Yes,
Adam Curry: take it to the
script, to the strip club with
your dollar bills, with your
little bound
Unknown: book of dollar bills.
It's beautiful.
Adam Curry: That's right, it's a
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No, not at all.
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I have
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