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Unknown: Where's my Twinkies?
Adam curry. John C Dvorak, yes.
Thursday,
Adam Curry: September 5, 2024
this is your award winning
gimlination. Media assassination
Episode 1692,
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: spreading Russian
disinformation and broadcasting
live from the cruise ship,
capital of Mexico, just north of
Puerto Vallarta. In the morning,
everybody? I'm Adam curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're
wondering why you're on the run.
I'm John C Dvorak.
Unknown: It's Greg von Buzzkill.
In the morning, on the
John C Dvorak: run, you're on
the run, on the border. I'm
Adam Curry: on the land, man,
John C Dvorak: I'm on Mexico.
Way.
Adam Curry: Yeah, indeed. Excuse
me, yes. Tina, this was what I
thought was my only present was
this
John C Dvorak: short press. You
got a shotgun, yeah, I
Adam Curry: know shot. Maybe I
got a lot of cool things,
completely unexpected. 60 was a
great birthday. I had no effing
hands and hope this thing pass.
Ah, you want
John C Dvorak: to be 60 again
next year?
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. No, I
don't care. Okay, I still feel
15. That's, that's Dvorak laugh
for Yeah, you just wait. You
just wait anyway. So we got it
all set up. It's all working. We
got good bandwidth. This is the
John C Dvorak: new rig. Sounds
Okay. Sounds good. That
Adam Curry: sounds good. It
sounds like it always sounds
John C Dvorak: the stream didn't
sound good, though. Oh, really,
no. I
Adam Curry: haven't gotten any
complaints about that. Stream
didn't sound well.
John C Dvorak: I mean, from my
perspective, getting it through
the system here, it was breaking
up a lot. Oh,
Adam Curry: but you hear me?
Okay, hello, yeah,
John C Dvorak: I'm actually
shocked the difference. Okay,
Adam Curry: hey, this was really
something interesting that
happened last night, and I
didn't even really pay much
attention to it until Tina
alerted me to a whole side
thread about this particular
occurrence, and I will start it
with a short background or clip.
The Justice Department
Unknown: says it has moved
aggressively to shut down what
it says are Russian efforts to
influence the 2024 US
presidential election. The DOJ
says it sees 32 Kremlin run
websites that were used to
spread Disinformation and
Propaganda. Officials say
Russian argued operatives used
AI to target us voters and
generate kind generate content,
sharing false narratives to
Russian nationals who are media
executives at a Russian state
news site. Have also been
charged with violating the
foreign Agents Registration Act.
They're accused of spending
almost 10 million on the scheme,
using an American based company
to create and post hundreds of
English language videos. The FBI
field office will continue in
Philadelphia, will continue to
investigate the case.
Adam Curry: Now, were you
following this at all? Yeah,
Unknown: of course. Eclipse,
Adam Curry: okay, what do you
have?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, right. RT,
busted one,
Adam Curry: okay. RT, busted
one.
Unknown: Russia is allegedly
meddling in this year's
presidential election. Federal
us departments are now pressing
charges against Russian
individuals while trying to
seize dozens of internet domains
and TVs. INTERNATIONAL
CORRESPONDENT Aryan pastor has
the story,
the government of Russia
continued to use RT to direct
Disinformation and Propaganda
multiple us departments on
Wednesday alleging that Russia
is meddling in this year's
presidential elections. The
Department of Justice indicted
two editors in chief for the
Russian state owned media
outlet, RT, RT and
its employees, including the
defendants, implemented a nearly
ten million scheme to fund and
direct a Tennessee based company
to publish and disseminate
content deemed favorable to the
Russian government.
The Department alleges that the
two individuals violated the
foreign Agents Registration Act
in return for the money, the
Tennessee company allegedly
created English content, which
it then posted on Instagram,
YouTube, X and other platforms.
The Treasury Department also
sanctioned the two editors plus
nine others over the alleged
meddling in the elections. RT
responded with ridicule, saying
three things are certain in
life, death, taxes and RTS
interference in the US
elections, and separately from
the actions against RT the FBI
and the Justice Department are
also seeking court permission to
seize 32 websites, so called
Cyber squadron domains. These
websites were designed to appear
to American readers as if they
were major US news sites like
the Washington Post or Fox News,
but in fact, they were fake
sites. All right,
Adam Curry: couple things before
we before we move on. First of
all, the foreign agent
Registration Act is this. Does
this really qualify if someone
is paying someone to. Have set
up, you know, whether it's a
fake news site or just a news
site. I mean, this is not
they're not lobbying Congress.
Does Farrah really qualify for
this?
John C Dvorak: This is a good
question. I can't answer they.
They like to throw that. I mean,
how come Hunter Biden hasn't
been charged with that? Well,
Adam Curry: so if so, if I
look@justice.gov and there's,
here's the Farah foreign Agents
Registration Act was enacted in
1938 requires certain agents of
foreign principles who are
engaged in political activities
or other activities specified
under the statute to make
periodic public disclosure of
their relationship with the
foreign principle, which I think
RT is kind of disclosed that, as
well as activities, receipts and
disbursements in support of
those activities. I mean, it
doesn't, first of all, we're the
kings of this. You know, hello,
Voice of America. Hello, voice
John C Dvorak: I got some clips
coming up. I
Adam Curry: mean, this, this is
same thing. This is obviously
complete crud. But the thing
that got really interesting is
the Tennessee company that's
mentioned in these clips.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's play
the second part of this and then
even talk about that. Okay,
Unknown: the DOJ published
examples of such sites. For
example, this one, which appears
to be a Washington Post article
stating, Middle East coalition
of US allies, crumbles like a
house of cards. Or another fake
article reading, no more money.
Kremlin will solve Ukraine's
problem. The FBI is now working
to take these sites down. The
two indicted editors for RT
remain at large.
Adam Curry: I know you have a
Kirby clip. I have a real short
one here, Rear Admiral Kirby,
with a little bit of details,
Unknown: as you saw today, the
Department of Justice,
Department of Treasury and State
Department a series of
coordinated actions against
foreign actors associated with
the Russian government who are
attempting to covertly influence
our elections. Specifically, all
these federal agencies revealed
activities directed and funded
by RT, formerly known as Russia
today, to covertly spread
Russian government propaganda
with the aim of reducing
international support for
Ukraine, bolstering pro Russian
policies and interests and
influencing voters here in the
US and in foreign elections as
well. For their part, the
Treasury Department is
sanctioning six executives and
officials affiliated with RT,
three executives associated with
other Kremlin controlled
organizations. And additionally,
the Treasury Department is
designating a n o dialog, a
Russian government funded, I'm
sorry, a Russian government
founded nonprofit that uses
artificial intelligence to
create and distribute online
Russian disinformation for use
against election campaigns.
Adam Curry: Okay, so we have a
lot of by the way, yeah,
John C Dvorak: why is he so
breathless, he sounds like he's
hyperventilating. Well, the
whole little thing, well,
Unknown: I would say, what
John C Dvorak: is going on with
him? Well, I
Adam Curry: would say the the
main reason that he is out here,
and I have, you have
John C Dvorak: clips, I have
other clips. I don't know if the
clip's any different than that
one. Well,
Adam Curry: this is military
industrial complex. This is Hey,
hey, hey, hey, we've got people
speaking against Ukraine, and
he's, you know, he's the rear
admiral. So they bring in the
military, the ex military guide,
to say, oh, no, we can't have
this. We can't have sites out
there and AI generated content
that goes against the narrative
of Russia. Bad Ukraine, good.
But what? And this is funny,
because Tina, she unrelated,
said, have you seen what's going
on with Tim pool? Now this is
the part of the story where it
gets interesting. The Nashville
or the Tennessee based company
that received $9.7 million to
create 2000 different YouTube
videos is tenant media, yeah,
tenant media, I'll just read
from their website, fearless
voices live here and the talent.
Meet the talent. Lauren
Southern, Tim pool, Taylor
Hanson, Matt Christianson, Dave
Rubin, Benny Johnson, so it
turns out that any show and the
Benny show, well, there's a
couple of things to focus on.
Turns out that, you know, Tim
pool has his his regular pool
boy show, right with everyone at
the desk and yelling back and
forth. But there was another
one, beanie, Beanie boy show,
another one, which is the the
culture war show. Now check this
out. It turns out that he was
receiving to produce one episode
a week. They're about two hours,
$100,000 an episode for a two
hour basic, you know, just
podcast and I. I've always
wondered, like, he's always
flying guests in and, you know,
he's got that, you know, swanky
studio in West Virginia has a
lot going on, and he's got just,
it seems to be good budget. And
now, like, okay, so he was
making about $5 million a year
for producing one episode a
week, and this was a show that
they had licensed, so he wasn't
necessarily doing it. It wasn't
like he was talking to the
Kremlin, but he was making the
show. It was licensed to tenant
media. And so this has put Tim
pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin,
in a very precarious situation,
I'd say, I'll read his
statement, my statement, Tim
pool statement, my statement
regarding allegations in the DOJ
indictment. Should these
allegations prove true, I, as
well as the other personalities
and commentators, were deceived,
and we are victims. I cannot
speak for anyone else at the
company as to what they do or
what they are instructed. The
culture war podcast was licensed
by tenant now, by the way, this
was not mentioned anywhere in
the indictment. I read I read
the indictment. Yeah, I read it
too. I didn't hear any of this.
So he's telling us that it was
about the culture war podcast
was licensed by tenant media. It
existed well before any license
agreement with Tenet, and it
will continue to exist after
such agreement expires. The only
expires. The only change where
the agreement was the location
of the live broadcast move to
tenants YouTube channel. I and
TCW never produce any content
for tenant media. Now I'm
thinking that tenant media
probably also you get these
emails suggested guests. Hey,
you should have this guy on as a
guest, you know what? I mean?
You get those emails for no
agendas. Of those, yeah, and no
agenda. This would be a great
guest for no agenda. You have
never listened, you dope.
Because we don't have guests.
Never at any point did anyone
other than I have full editorial
control the show, and the
contents of the show are often
apolitical. Examples include
discussing spirituality, dating
and video games. The show is
produced and it's entirely by
our local team, blah blah That
being said, we still do not know
what is true, as these are only
allegations. Putin is a scumbag.
Russia sucks donkey balls. And
to the
John C Dvorak: that doesn't
work,
Adam Curry: she protested too
much. Me thinketh, and to the
journalists who wish to jump the
gun create their own narrative
or lie about what is currently
going on. You can eat my Irish
ass. Okay? So then Benny
Johnson, that's
John C Dvorak: actually in this
statement, yes, which is not
good, no.
Adam Curry: And then Benny
Johnson a statement on the leak
DOJ indictment today, a year
ago, a media startup pitched my
company to provide content as an
independent contractor. Our
lawyers negotiated a standard,
arm's length deal, which was
later terminated. We are
disturbed by the allegations in
today's indictment, which makes
clear that myself and other
influences were victims in this
alleged scheme. So there's the
victim meme. My lawyers will
handle anyone who states or
suggests otherwise. Oh boy, and
then Dave Rubin, who doesn't
know him? Statement
John C Dvorak: on Ruben was
working for Glenn Beck.
Adam Curry: I'm just I don't
know statement on the DOJ
indictment, these allegations
clearly show that I and other
commentators were the victims of
this scheme. So seems like they
had some, uh, victims.
John C Dvorak: Seems to be the
common advice. You nailed that
Adam Curry: I knew absolutely
nothing about any of this
fraudulent activity, period.
People of the internet was a
silly show. So nowhere did I see
this mentioned. But he knows
what it's about. They know what
that what is going on here.
People of the internet was a
silly show covering viral
videos, which ended four months
ago. The DOJ has never contacted
me regarding this matter, and I
have no intent, intention to
come to comment further. This
screenshot directly from the
indictment, speaks for itself.
So there was a lot of money
flowing around, and you know, so
of course, what is happening is
people are saying, Hey, you're
getting $100,000 for a two hour
episode podcast. Didn't you
think something might have been
up with that. And then people
are pulling clips from old Tim
pool shows, and this is a 45
second one, and they're saying,
Oh yeah, you traitor. You took
Russian money. But I don't know
Unknown: that it matters
anymore. This is psychotic.
Ukraine is the enemy of this
country. Ukraine is our enemy
being funded by the Democrats. I
will stress again, one of the
greatest enemies of our nation
right now is Ukraine. They are
expanding this war now. Don't
get me wrong. I know you've got
criminal elements of the US
government, pushing them and
guiding them and telling them
what to do. Ukraine is now
accused a German warrant issued
for blowing up the Nord Stream
pipeline in triggering this
conflict. Ukraine is the
greatest threat to this nation
and to the world. We should
rescind all funding and
financing, pull out all military
support, and we should apologize
to Russia.
Adam Curry: So. Little different
than his. You know, can suck
donkey balls. Quote, so. So I
think what's going on here is
the just Department of Justice,
which obviously all Democrats,
Biden Obama operatives, they're,
they're doing some kind of mega
sweep here where, first of all,
we bring back in Russia's trying
to get Trump elected. And then
they bring in anyone who's ever
been positive about Trump or or
positive about Russia and and
implicating them where they're
actually, you know, they were
licensing content. It seems, I
don't think that they were
necessarily knowledgeable about
what happened, but this
discredits a lot of alternative
media. Makes people very
suspicious. Yeah, it's kind of
good, I mean, as in, it's a,
it's a good op that they've
pulled here. Well,
John C Dvorak: I think that the
OP, of course, is done, is being
done by the Justice Department,
yes, in conjunction with the
military industrial complex,
yes, as a preemptive strike
against Trump, yes. So when
Trump gets in, if he does which
we they're not absolutely sure
they can pull off getting
calmly, and if they even want
to, right, they have this all
set up. So everything now that
if you, if you pull the plug on
Ukraine. You're part of this op,
of the supposed op? Yes, so
Trump had so Trump has to tread
lightly when he gets he can't
just pull a you know, who is it?
Kennedy or, or I get? No, I
guess it's Tulsa. You know, they
want to just pull the plug on
Ukraine, just right. Drop of a
hat. But what Trump has to do,
because he now he's screwed.
This is a pre screw job, again,
aimed at Trump, and what he has
to do is end the war
immediately. Ah, by going over
there, right? Because that's the
only thing you can do. Can't
stop funding, yeah.
Adam Curry: So, yeah, it's, it's
a mill. That's the first thing I
thought, is, like he got Kirby
out and he did a interview with
PBS. You want to hear some of
that? Sure, yeah, because when
PBS gets involved, oh, now it's,
this is ten million what is ten
million in the in the realm of
disinformation? Is that, like,
some huge amount that I'm
unaware of? And okay, it funded
pool boy and Benny boy and Dave
boy, who were probably oblivious
to it and were just thinking,
I'm that good.
John C Dvorak: That's exactly
right. And
Adam Curry: by the way, we would
be like, yeah, we're that good.
We deserve this kind of money to
license our content. You know,
Spotify license Joe Rogan's
content for millions. I can see
where you get I don't want to
implicate any of these people,
but they, they certainly got
wrapped up in something. So
here's PBS on this story. Now
Unknown: to the day's other top
story, foreign efforts to
interfere with the US
presidential election in a press
conference this afternoon us,
Attorney General Merrick Garland
outlined what he called
sophisticated disinformation
campaigns undertaken by Russia
and other adversaries,
sophisticated
Adam Curry: 2000 YouTube videos
that sophisticated
Unknown: promoting lies via fake
news outlets And real social
media influencers. And garland
issued this warning.
The Justice Department's message
is clear, we have no tolerance
for attempts by authoritarian
regimes to exploit our
demographic our democratic
system of
Adam Curry: government, because
that's our job. That's what we
do.
Unknown: We will be relentlessly
aggressive, encountering and
disrupting attempts by Russia
and Iran as China or any other
foreign malign actor to
interfere in our elections and
undermine our democracy. Oh,
Adam Curry: our democracy is
being undermined by propaganda.
Look at the M 5m bro. Anyway,
John C Dvorak: the thing about
this is another aspect which
makes me think this was a
preemptive strike, and it all
has to do with Ukraine. It's got
nothing to do with the elections
Ukraine. I complain, that's
right. And to balance that, that
argument, they brought in Iran
as the foil to say, well, Iran
was interfering with Trump,
because they were going after
Trump in different ways. We're
going to assassinate him.
They're going to do this and
that. So they so they keep the
balance. So it was like it
wasn't they were trying to get
Trump in or trying to get Kamala
in. It was they're trying to
mess with the election, kind of
in general. But in fact, it's
got nothing to do with the
elections. It has only to do
with Ukraine. Yes, it's very
well done. I think so now
Adam Curry: they bring and of
course, because if you listen
to, I mean, listen to our show,
we know what went down in
Ukraine. We know how it
happened. Everyone knows the
backstory. We've been following
that since 2014 and. We know you
cookies, my Don, we saw it all
happening. The expansion of NATO
John C Dvorak: Brennan was
there. Cookies was there. The
enemy CIA is there. And I think
the giveaway
Adam Curry: is bringing in
retired Rear Admiral John Kirby,
because he is the military
industrial complex spokes hole,
and he will explain how this
interferencelessly,
John C Dvorak: I might add, with
his hyperventilating, because he
knows that. He knows, he knows
if he's really good at he's not
as good an actor as he should
be.
Adam Curry: No but he's all they
got. So they'll, they'll just
say he does the job, but gets
the job done. So and also, PBS
immediately doing this big
story. You know that's that's
not typical for some phony
websites and some domain names
they didn't like, which they
don't mention, never really
John C Dvorak: did much about
the Macedonian kids who did a
lot more damage.
Unknown: All right, here's Kirby
Joining us now from the White
House. Is National Security
Council spokesman, retired Rear
Admiral John Kirby. Admiral
Kirby, welcome back. Thanks for
joining us. Thank you so much
for having so these efforts. I
think it's safe to say her a
long way Oh, she
Adam Curry: Oh, she's she's
already laugh telling Oh, safe
to say, oh no, oh my goodness.
Unknown: So these efforts, I
think it's safe to say her a
long way from Russian
intelligence packing and dumping
emails like they did with the
DNC back in 2016
Adam Curry: Yeah, right, you
are, because it's not about the
election lady. Just before
Unknown: we dig into some of the
specifics today, big picture and
briefly, what does all of this
say to you about how Russian
election interference has
evolved over the years? They've
gotten more sophisticated.
They've gotten more organized.
And quite frankly, if they
John C Dvorak: were more
sophisticated, they wouldn't
have gotten caught.
Unknown: It's organized. They've
Adam Curry: got pool boy, yeah,
it's sophisticated and
organized. More
Unknown: sophisticated, they've
gotten more organized. And quite
frankly, they've gotten more
more funding. Wait,
John C Dvorak: stop a second. I
got to put this in there. It's
gonna be interrupted a lot.
That's all right. That's all
right. It's
Unknown: good. It's good stuff.
John C Dvorak: When you say,
quite frankly, are you lying the
rest of the time? Well, of
course, to tell you the truth.
Adam,
Adam Curry: yes,
Unknown: what?
Adam Curry: I'm not lying
honestly. There's another
honestly. I'd like to say, yeah,
Unknown: all of these more
organized and, quite frankly,
they've gotten more, more
funding support right at the top
of the Kremlin, we believe Mr.
Putin, what's 10 million?
John C Dvorak: What's he
comparing that funding to the
$100,000 they spent on Facebook
ads back in 2020 2016 was, it
good? Was a scandal? Or
Adam Curry: the 400 million
Zuckerberg pumped into
everything? Yeah, exactly.
John C Dvorak: Compare that to
400 million Zuckerberg pumped
into Wisconsin alone getting of
Unknown: this scheme, or these
schemes, I should say there's
more than one, but they've
gotten a lot more clever. And
unfortunately for them, we've
gotten pretty clever too. We got
pretty strong. Well, we were
able to detect and monitor these
threats, and as you said today,
take action to hold them
accountable. Oh
Adam Curry: yeah, we were able
to detect these threats. It's a
website.
John C Dvorak: Oh no, the phony
story. It's a website. We were
good able to detect this threat
Adam Curry: and notice how they
say Washington Post and Fox
News, let's get both sides of
the spectrum. Again.
John C Dvorak: That brings us
back to the bringing in Iran, so
we have the balance over. So
it's not really about the
elections. Is about Ukraine and
the money we're spending. So
Unknown: one of these schemes,
as you put it, let's kind of
break it down here. The
Department of Justice has
charged two employees of a
Russian state controlled media
outlet RT saying that they
poured ten million into, poured
an effort to distribute, poured
Adam Curry: all its 10 million
at all. Man, they poured it in
to influencers. They didn't call
them podcasters. They're calling
them influencers. They
Unknown: poured in dollars into
an effort to distribute content
with hidden Russian government
messaging.
Adam Curry: What hidden
messaging?
John C Dvorak: How hidden is it?
Ukraine's
Adam Curry: no good. That's
hidden messaging. Oh, it's
subliminal. It's the subliminal
frames. Kind
Unknown: of messaging, old,
yeah, are we talking about and
where might people have seen
that? Well,
a great example of the
messaging, for instance, was
blaming Ukraine and the United
States for the terrorist attack
that happened in Moscow several
months ago.
This one that's interesting.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: this I just, I
almost had this clip that he
they've been harping on this
particular this. And one other
example is Kirby's main thing,
which was this switcheroo about
this attack in Russia that's
Unknown: we all know was
conducted by ISIS. Even ISIS
acknowledged that they conducted
that attack on that concert hall
we all know.
Adam Curry: We all know ISIS
tweeted it, man, they put a
statement on x
Unknown: so that. Is one
example. Another example was
continuing to put out
information to undermine
Ukraine's fight for its own
democracy and for its
sovereignty. So it's messaging
and just another
Adam Curry: laugh tell, by the
way,
John C Dvorak: yeah, good point.
Ukraine's
Unknown: fight for its own
democracy. Very laughing because
John C Dvorak: he's joking,
because he knows no democracy.
This guy's cancel elections,
shut down, the press out of
control. What this guy's doing
for its own
Unknown: democracy and for his
sovereignty. So it's messaging
and disinformation. It's
propaganda that that tries to
undermine public support for
what Ukraine is trying to do to
defend itself and a range of
other things Russia wants to do
to sort of portray the United
States as some sort of evil
actor in the world. So there's a
series of initiatives that
they're undertaking, again, to
undermine faith and confidence
in democracy. Writ large,
certainly undermine faith and
confidence in America's
democracy.
Adam Curry: America's demand.
We're going to be talking a lot
about America's democracy today.
So now we go to the other
schemes. Let's go to those,
those, those sneaky websites.
One of
Unknown: the other schemes laid
out was related to the
Department of Justice seizing 32
internet domains that they say
were used to spread Russian
propaganda with the aim of
influencing voters in the US and
foreign elections, including the
US 2024, presidential election,
I just want to show for viewers
here, the websites were designed
to look like us, information and
news sites like these that
you're seeing right now that
look exactly like Washington
Post articles, but they are not.
Can these kinds of sites be
taken down faster than they can
keep going up? Is it safe to
assume this information still
out there?
Well, we're certainly going to
keep having conversations with
tech companies about about
making sure they're aware of
these threats. And
Adam Curry: what tech companies
what? What are they going to
talking to godaddy for domain
names? Or does it when he said
we'll be talking to is this
another one of those? Don't
worry about Section 230 we won't
take it away from you
conversations. I don't like
this.
John C Dvorak: We'll be talking
to tech companies.
Adam Curry: Let's listen. What
else you
Unknown: have to say here,
because with tech companies
about about making sure they're
aware of these threats and these
these actors out there, we have
actors, you know, rely on them
to take the decisions that that
they deem are appropriate to
their own policies and
procedures. But we're certainly
going to keep having that
conversation with tech
companies. But I think what
you're seeing here, and I'm glad
you mentioned that the social
design agency and what they've
been doing, as well as
Adam Curry: that social design
agency that's tenant media.
They're talking about with the
fearless voices who live here.
You
Unknown: know, on one hand,
you've got them using RT, a
former propaganda outlet now
just a full on covert influence
organization. RT,
Adam Curry: covert. How is RT
covert?
John C Dvorak: It's not covert.
It's always over.
Unknown: It's over just a full
on covert influence organization
to work through funding
companies, even a company here
in the United States, to get
them to push information out in
the vein of a legitimate media
outlet, and they also working at
a tactical level with social
media influencers. Many of them,
as the attorney general laid
out, are simply made up their
fictional persona, but they're
going at it from a media outlet
perspective, and they're going
at it from an individual social
media user perspective, wow.
Adam Curry: I mean, first of
all, I don't see what the
Justice Department the I mean,
you can pull if you can police
anything you want, if this is
okay, like, Oh no, the onion. Oh
the onion. Making jokes. No, we
gotta seize their domain name.
Good
John C Dvorak: point. Seize
their domain Well, let's go.
Babylon B, the onions,
Adam Curry: right? Babylon B,
well, exactly right. You know
what I'm talking about. All
right. Let's go with the Oh yes.
What is the preferred outcome?
Yes. But
Unknown: when it comes to
influencing, especially the
2024, presidential election,
Attorney General garland said
that they're they're seeking a
preferred outcome. Here
Adam Curry: it includes not
Trump. That's the preferred
outcome.
Unknown: What is that preferred
outcome? What do you see this
Russian propaganda working
towards
Adam Curry: boy leading the
witness? They
Unknown: are working towards
undermining us, policies the
kinds of us that this
administration has been laboring
so hard to pursue around the
world, shoring up alliances and
partnerships in the Indo
Pacific, supporting Ukraine,
obviously, is that to say
that they're working to
undermine the Democratic
candidate, in this case, Kamala
Harris.
I don't have specific evidence
that I can speak to about
undermining a particular
candidate, but we have seen in
the past where Mr. Putin
certainly has shown up.
Proclivity for one particular
candidate. But again, I don't
want to get where we are right
now. Where we are right now is
we know that they are using
these tools, these vehicles,
this funding, discord and try to
try to increase here in the
United States,
Adam Curry: he is falling apart.
Witness this next shorter clip.
Unknown: Wouldn't it help people
though to spot some of this
disinformation if they knew if
it tends to lean one way or the
other?
Well, look, that's what we did
today.
John C Dvorak: What ask Alexa.
Unknown: That's what we did
today.
Adam Curry: Ask Alexa. Alexa, is
this misinformation? Look,
that's
Unknown: one of the things that
we did today, why the Attorney
General went public. That's why
we here at the White House laid
it out. The State Department,
the Treasury. I mean, part of
the aim of educating the
American people is to disclose
what we're seeing out there and
the kinds of content that
they're putting out there. And
as I said in my opening
statement today in the briefing
room, we can't just be the
government doing this. We need
the help of American citizens to
bear a hand here and to
carefully and scrupulously take
a look at what you're digesting,
the news, information that
you're getting online or
elsewhere, to try to make sure
that you're getting the absolute
best, credible, most accurate
information you can
Adam Curry: get, it from the
good sources, not those crazy
alt media guys, no poll boy,
Tucker, none of them are good.
Let's wrap it up. It
Unknown: is also worth pointing
out, people start voting in this
election very soon, within days,
and the last day of voting,
election day is just over 60
days away. A lot of this content
has already been out there for a
while, has had millions of
views. Are these steps and
actions coming too late to have
an impact? Too late? Well, we
certainly hope not. I mean, I
would just tell you that the
timing today was driven by the
scope of the investigation that
the Attorney General talked
about, and he made it clear,
it's an ongoing investigation.
So there may be additional
actions here coming, I don't
know, but it was driven really
by the status of the
investigation. That was what was
really on our minds. And as soon
as we could package all that
information up and get it out
into the public domain, we
wanted to do that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is
completely about Ukraine, and it
is no coincidence of the timing.
It's nothing about all the
timing was just we were ready.
We had all the evidence. No the
timing is the forthcoming visit
by Zelensky with his victory
plan.
Unknown: President Zelensky sat
down with NBC News in his first
interview since that surprise
move,
Adam Curry: by the way, Richard
Engel here doing the reporting.
Now you've
Unknown: captured this territory
in Russia. So the big question
is,
what do you plan to do with it?
We don't need the Russian
territory.
Our operation is aimed to
restore our territorial
integrity.
We don't need their land. Is
the plan to take more territory?
I
will not tell you, sorry I can't
speak about it. It's like the
beginning of our discourse
operation. I didn't communicate
anything clearly. With all
respect, I can't speak about it.
I think that the success is very
close to surprise. But
conceptually,
you have this territory. Now you
say you don't want to keep it
long conceptually,
we will hold it conceptually. We
will hold it well, there's been
Adam Curry: what is this
conceptually? We'll hold this
land. What was in your mind
talking about, they're
John C Dvorak: both going on and
on about conceptually? Yeah,
what
Adam Curry: does that mean? It
doesn't mean it. It's
John C Dvorak: bull. See,
conceptually, we're going to do
a podcast today.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right, but
I'm staying in bed for this
conceptual podcast. Yeah,
exactly. Conceptually. We
Unknown: will hold it.
Conceptually. We will hold it.
Well, there's been another
government shake up here in
Ukraine. This time, the foreign
minister tendering his
resignation, and Craig, it's all
related. I spoke to President
zelenskyy said what he's
preparing right now is to
present what he describes as his
victory plan to President Biden,
to Vice President Harris, and to
Donald Trump in the United
States later this month. And he
wants to arrive with some
military success after the
ongoing military campaign inside
Russia and with a new,
revitalized government. So he
wants to go in with a full head
of steam as he goes to to
Washington, it goes to the
United States later this
John C Dvorak: month. Yeah, it's
a new hand picked government.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
if, if rats are jumping the ship
or exact I mean, it seems like a
whole bunch of people said,
Okay, I'm out. I don't want any
part of this. But the victory
plan is coming.
John C Dvorak: The victory plan
so these guys are scammers,
yeah, well,
Adam Curry: concluding of the
highest order. I feel bad for
these, for these podcasters. But
on the other hand, Dude, did you
not think this was odd?
John C Dvorak: No, I think your
original um analysis absolutely
on the money, I'm
Adam Curry: that good,
John C Dvorak: I'm great,
Unknown: I'm that good,
John C Dvorak: I am fabulous,
and I whatever they throw out, I
expected this surprise. It took
that long that damn Joe Rogan's
making all the money. That's
Adam Curry: right, that's right.
Well, yeah, anyway, oh man, I
just, I just, it was like, Wow.
This all fell into my lap. Like,
this is, this is crazy.
John C Dvorak: So did you miss
the Alexa stuff? No,
Adam Curry: I did. Yeah, I don't
know about the Alexa stuff. Oh,
I
John C Dvorak: would. I was
gonna get a clip, but I figured
you'd either have the clip or
knew about it. Or no, you
probably did look it up real
quick, quick someone. This was
about four days ago. I'm
surprised you didn't catch
Adam Curry: it. Oh, yeah, but
she's saying, Alexa, give me
who's going to win the
elections. Is that the tell
John C Dvorak: me why I should
vote for Donald Trump. And Alexa
says, We can't tell you anything
like that. This is a this is
politics. No, no, no, no, no.
You can't ask a question like
that. She says, Hey, tell me why
I should vote for Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris is great. She's in
all these terrific things. She's
a perfect candidate. She should,
you should vote for her?
Adam Curry: Yeah, you know, I'm,
honestly, I did see the clip.
I'm so jaded by that stuff. It's
like, it's like, that's standard
operating procedure these days,
we know, but you Mimi sent,
John C Dvorak: sent a copy to
me, and she says, late, you
know, it was just last night,
and she says, Can you believe
this? What you're behind on?
Really, days ago? Really,
Unknown: yeah, she's
John C Dvorak: all worked up
about it, so I figure, well,
maybe some, you know, somebody
we should have, probably, I
should have, probably clipped
it, but that's my but I ever I'm
doubting that. I think 90% of
our audience has heard this over
and over. Yeah, yeah, done it
every if you watch anybody watch
this fox, every single Fox show
has played this
Adam Curry: Well, that would be
the main reason I didn't clip
it.
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
that's the main reason clip it.
You just didn't clip it. I
didn't clip it either. No,
Adam Curry: but it's just like
all this. It's out. The auto
completes on Google Search come,
but
John C Dvorak: this is, this is
nothing new. It's all part of
the same bull crap.
Adam Curry: It's nothing new.
And you know that you're getting
different results than I'm
getting based upon your location
or anything. Go, yeah, I use,
well, what's that thing I use?
John C Dvorak: I think Duck Duck
go, does you know, I go to
Google once for one purpose and
one purpose only, maps, yeah,
I'll put an address and I'll do
it through Google, because the
best mapping stuff that you like
around you can get directions
is, is great you like for
everything else, I use Duck Duck
go. Duck Duck go does a better
job of showing images, which I
use for the newsletter
occasionally, and it organizes
them better it. I just think the
results are better with that
product. They don't track you,
but I don't believe.
Adam Curry: No, they try. I use
cog, E, K, A, G, I
John C Dvorak: and I pay for it.
Yeah, yeah, you do. And
Adam Curry: it's, I would say,
for 98% of all my searches, cog
E is good, some of the
historical stuff, like really
old stuff, they may not have. So
let's just talk about American
democracy for a moment. And I
put together this series of
clips because I here's an
example of some of the emails
I've received. Please don't let
your disfavor or hatred of Elon
get the best of you.
John C Dvorak: This that's just
Adam, by the way, I think Elon's
Great.
Adam Curry: This judge is an
absolute tyrant who tells people
to censor people he just doesn't
like and tells them it's illegal
for them to say the order came
from him. It really feels like
you just don't like Elon so
badly that you're ignoring a
huge story and mock must for
saying he's standing up for free
speech, as if everything he does
has to be disingenuous. So first
of all
John C Dvorak: is that the same
tone of voice that get probably
sounds like a guy would say
that, you
Adam Curry: know, those guys?
Yeah, so. But I get a lot of
these, and I just, and here's my
my turn. No, why
John C Dvorak: they you know, I
don't have the issue with Musk
at all. But at the same time, I
don't see why everyone's
defending into such an extreme
as if the guy can't defend
himself. Or is it? Well, it just
doesn't make sense to me that
people were all well, also crazy
about this.
Adam Curry: Also, there's two of
us. There's Adam and John. And
aren't you happy that someone is
looking over his shoulder? Just
in case, that's what I've been
trained to do throughout almost
17 years, when everyone's all
goo goo, Gaga. I'm not gonna.
Same thing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm with
you. I'm looking at your
religious, religious,
religiosity.
Adam Curry: I have no
religiosity. Okay, I all right,
what? I don't know. I don't know
what that statement was about.
Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
it's not as though that you're
looking, you know, making sure I
don't foul up. And I'm always
looking at your
Adam Curry: foibles, of course.
But this is not about you. This
is about Elon. So I just want to
the here's the reason is why i i
saw that he brought in electric
vehicles and kicked off an
entire climate change based
John C Dvorak: narrative three.
Now this part of that about the
complaint I'm all in on and
because it did cause a
Adam Curry: problem. And he's
all in on climate tax, or carbon
tax and carbon credits. In fact,
he lives off of it. He is one.
He is one of the biggest
exploitative Is he a word?
You're looking for one of the
biggest military contractors for
lots of spooky stuff, including
the National Reconnaissance
Office and Space Force and, you
know, but we're all like, Oh,
he's so great. He's Tony Stark's
he's Oh, he's the best. Well,
that's a bit and I have, well,
that's out there. I mean, just
look at the pictures of him in
that, you know, that red
Halloween suit. And he's always
like, Oh, he looks so dapper
with his hair plugs, so and I
don't, I mean, I've met the guy.
I was there at the launch of
Tesla, which he didn't invent.
He bought it. You know, he
supposedly spends 80% of his
time doing engineering. Seems
like he spends 80% of his time
on X shit posting nowadays,
yeah, for sure. So you know. And
you can see the woman who really
runs SpaceX. She's a former, I
think, NRO lady. I mean, you
know, he's got people in all
these different places doing the
work. He's flying around. He's
doing whatever he needs to do,
which is fine, but
John C Dvorak: when the one
thing he does, which is not easy
to do, in my opinion, it's the
hardest thing to do, is he hires
the right people to do this job.
That makes it look like he's
doing it. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm a little
more skeptical about who's
running, who's hiring, but
doesn't, doesn't really matter.
Um, but when, when everyone's
all jacked up about Yeah? Free
speech, yeah, it's great. X is
great. That's what I'm like.
Yeah. It's always great when
someone's on your team, but it's
the same with de platforming.
It's always great when someone
else gets the platform, who you
don't like, who you disagree
with, but these tools can be
turned around on a dime and be
focused at you
John C Dvorak: one in fact,
Twitter proves that
Adam Curry: so this, well, yes,
in fact, I got another note from
a guy I'll read
John C Dvorak: this, turned
around on a dime, and now it's
going out the other direction.
This is
Adam Curry: from coconut Pete.
I've been on Twitter since the
beginning in 2007 I've
experimented with different
accounts for various projects,
sometimes just playing around
with random accounts. From my
experience using Twitter under
Jack and Elon, I think I can say
with certainty that the free
speech in quotes under Elon is
definitely worse. Under Jack,
there are always lots of crazy
tweets flying around, perhaps
the worst case scenario, what
might get shadow banned, but at
least you could keep your
account and vent to yourself
thinking you are changing the
world. Most people think that
Elon is the Savior free speech,
and he loves to brand himself
this way, but they don't see the
many other layers of censorship
right in front of their face,
such as unpaid peasant accounts
get little to no visibility. I
agree, paid accounts get more
visibility. Ex Premium accounts
get more exposure. Remember the
whole mantra was freedom of
speech, not of reach. Then, if
you're a well known celebrity or
public figure that has the max
account on X, you probably have
more free speech and leeway than
anyone else. He goes on to say,
one of my accounts, I just got
suspended, I believe, for
applying to someone saying they
were an idiot. If you do get
suspended, if you do get
suspended, there's no
explanation why. So you know
there's and I believe this to be
true. So anyway, we're back to
democracy and free speech in
America. And this brings me to x
and Brazil, which I have some
thoughts on. And we'll start
with a backgrounder from Fox
live, who bring us up to speed
on where we are with x being
banned in Brazil, the social
media platform, by the way,
these guys have some click in
their audio, which is not me,
but it's in there. The social
Unknown: media platform,
formerly known as Twitter,
remains offline in one of South
America's largest countries.
Brazil's Supreme Court
unanimously upheld a ban of the
site x by its top judge on
Monday, the ruling blocks access
station wide for some 40 million
users in mandates, ex founder
Elon Musk pay more than $3
million in fines and nominate a
legal representative within the
country. I
don't know how far we can go.
I'm going to say strange how far
we're getting in terms of
information and the limitations
they're trying to put on the
population. The
court's top judge, Alexander de
Maria suspended X last week,
claiming it allows the spread of
misinformation. He also said a
daily fine of nearly $9,000 for
anyone using virtual private
networks to access the platform.
Musk said the ruling is
destroying free speech. Adding
the current Brazilian
administration likes to wear the
cloak of a free democracy while
crushing the people under its
boot. Brazil's President issuing
this warning,
having a lot of money does not
allow you to disrespect it. He
is not a citizen of the world,
President, Congressman, Senate
or the Supreme Court.
In addition to the ban on x, the
court has also frozen satellite
internet provider starlinks
financial accounts in Brazil,
which is owned by musk.
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's kind
of the backgrounder. And I found
this Brazil professor of
Brazilian studies on France 24
who was commenting on it, and it
kind of gave me like, Oh, yeah.
This makes total sense, because
this is about, remember, we have
a First Amendment. We have
freedom of speech. You know, for
some reason, Elon is very
troubled about the freedom of
speech in Brazil, which, of
course, doesn't exist in any
other country, to my knowledge,
documented in the Constitution,
but the United States. And
everyone's like, yeah, freedom
of speech, yeah. Freedom
Unknown: of speech is an
American concept. It has no
place in European democracy.
It's important, but it's not
central. It's not the first
amendment so, and the same
situation is in Brazil. So this
is clearly the American values
being exported worldwide. It's a
problem. It should be taken like
this. It's the United States,
the old way of seeing the United
States, the First Amendment of
the American Constitution being
exported worldwide. And been
like that since the very
beginning of Twitter, since the
Green Revolution in Iran, since
the Arab Spring, the Americans
has been, have been exporting
the First Amendment worldwide
using social network. It's still
like that, and Musk is doing
exactly the same thing. The
value of the First Amendment is
very different. Now, the
Republicans are still very keen
on preserving the First
Amendment, but the Democrats are
not that keen on preserving the
First Amendment. So things are
changing in the United States,
and therefore they're changing
worldwide.
Adam Curry: So when I hear this,
I'm reminded that, yes, Arab
Spring, all of these things set
up by techno experts, Hillary
Clinton's little State
Department outfit there, Elon
Musk, is stirring up trouble and
sentiment in Brazil for so I
believe, for some kind of
people's revolution, and it's
probably working quite well. And
there's a new administration
possibly coming in. He used to
be a Trump hater. I think he was
a Trump hater. He switched on
Elon,
Unknown: oh yeah, he
Adam Curry: switched on a dime.
And now, boys, he's going to be
in the administration, because
there's something about Brazil
that we all want to be have a
part of. We'll get to that. But
first, he is that professor for
a short clip, right
Unknown: and now the finances of
a second Musk business, the
SpaceX Starlink, satellite
internet service, has also been
frozen. Could you tell us a bit
about this and what kind of
implications it may have for
Brazil? Well, the Brazilian
military rely on Starlink to
communicate, just like
Ukrainian, just like many
military worldwide, they need
stalling to establish
communication. So Matt could
theoretically stop every means
of communication for the army in
Brazil. Nobody knows it is going
to go that far, but he could
play this game.
Adam Curry: There's a lot of
leverage Elon Musk has with
this. You don't want your
military to communicate. I can
just turn all of that off. No
problem. So what is the big deal
about Brazil? What do we care?
Why would we want regime change?
Why would we want a revolution?
Kevin O'Leary shows up on I
think Fox Business, talking
about Brazil. He's the, you
know, he's, was he, Mr.
Wonderful, the super investor
from Shark Tank. But he
John C Dvorak: kind of, he's on
Fox a lot, well,
Adam Curry: because he has
business dealings
Unknown: Shark Tank investor,
Kevin O'Leary is here. Kevin,
great to see. Well, we'll talk
about us in just a second. But
Brazil, I used to cover it at
the Wall Street Journal. It's a
modern economy. A lot of us
businesses deal with Brazil, but
its president, a guy named his
nickname is Lula, is a Marxist,
and like most Marxists, one of
the first things he's done is
essentially taken over the
judiciary, including the.
Supreme Court. I just wonder who
what business in their right
mind would want to do business
in a country where this sort of
thing happens? Everybody
wants to do business in Brazil
because of growth, the growth
ethics there, the population,
demand on goods and services,
whether it's technology or
anything else, is just straight
up, almost double digits. So
there's a lot of interest,
including me, this latest
tussle, if you want to call it
that, and let me, let me be put
out, you know, let me be
transparent about how I feel
about it. As far as I'm
concerned, Elon Musk is a modern
day Bruce Wayne. I mean, he this
guy has been so successful in so
many sectors. So I'm a huge fan.
And what I really love about him
is his executional skills. But
he's also got another trait,
which I find very endearing, and
you may or may not like this.
He's a real poopoo disturber, if
you know what I mean. He just
doesn't give a poopoo. And I
love that about him. He doesn't
care what country, what
dictator, what leader, what
judiciary. If they don't want
his technology over the Amazon
where they need high speed
internet, he's happy to shut it
off. He doesn't care if he
doesn't get free speech, which
is why he bought that, paid 42
million or billion dollars for
Twitter in the beginning.
Really, he owns it. He controls
it. It's private. He can do
whatever he likes. If I were the
Lulu, as they call him, I think
about that little bit. You got a
lot of people that like internet
and like social media. Be
careful on the egg shows you
walking on Lulu baby.
Adam Curry: So $44 billion which
didn't come out of his own
pocket, it came from banks who
have all kinds of interest,
where Saudi but also US banks
who are trying to sell to get
money for 30 cents on the
dollar. And then O'Leary winds
it up, he would just explain
exactly what's going on. Yeah,
Unknown: it's Lou love, but
that's that's all right, but,
but the real question I have for
you, you brought you mentioned
that you're still involved
there, and it does have this
upward trajectory. But how long
can that continue if you have,
if you have a Marxist leader
who's controlling to the
judiciary, who, at any whim, can
decide that you're no good and
just take over what you what you
built there?
Well, if you look at the history
of those kinds of situations,
the outcomes are not good for
the lulas. And thank you for
correcting me, of the world,
because it's what the people
want, and musk knows that, and
people want technology, and they
want to communicate with each
other, and this is one of the
services they like using. I
think this thing will be
resolved, because when you start
shutting down commerce in where
there's so much productivity and
opportunity in the Amazon that
hurts the country. And I think
this, and look, as I said
before, I just love the way he
does it. He doesn't give
Adam Curry: No, he doesn't so
I'm just saying beware. He seems
to be acting. Everyone has a
master, and Musk is not
masterless. He's doing stuff for
for for different parties or
interests. It's not just, it's
not just for free speech. I just
don't believe it.
John C Dvorak: Well, you're
gonna have to come up with
something a little better than
these vague generalities to I'm
not going to argue that he's not
maybe working for the CIA or who
knows who, and this whole thing
may be some sort of a CRA
Adam Curry: Is he already? Is
he's already working for these
agencies? What
John C Dvorak: we heard from
Larry was useless information.
No, it's about, I don't know
what? No, listen, that was worth
a shit there. Said the Poopoo
thing. He has to keep saying it.
It's
Adam Curry: about, he's saying
that people were will revolt.
This is to get rile people up in
Brazil and have a change in
regime. They don't want the
Marxist there, because there's
lots of good resources in
Brazil, and there's growth and
etc, etc. There's business to be
done. This is the same as
exporting American democracy.
It's exporting American freedom
of speech, which I like, of
course, but it's suspicious to
me.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's Brazilians don't think
like Americans think at all. And
they they'd like Mark, not yet,
not yet. Oh, there never will
change. There's a saying about
Brazil, and I've been there
dozens of times. There's a
saying about Brazil, which is,
Brazil's the country of the
future, and always will be,
which is, pretty much summarizes
everything going on there. And
they have their mentality is
they've gone through these
cycles of these Marxists, then
go to the radical other guy, the
right winger, than the Marxist
and the right winger back and
forth forever, and they just
don't seem to ever get it
together. I don't know what
Leary Leary's thinking, or is it
O'Leary O'Leary at all? And this
whole thing with with Musk is,
is probably some other thing
altogether we don't know
anything about, maybe some
something, some scammers, thing
going on that we don't know
about. Who knows. I think who
the guy was good was that
France, 24 character that you
played that clip of that guy who
had some analysis, I thought was
more interesting, which is that
we are the only country that has
enshrined in our Constitution
the right to free speech, and
nobody else cares. They're not
that jacked up about it, like we
are correct. And I think that's
the one thing we never we just
do not have at the top of our
mind. We don't think like that.
We think, well, everybody wants
free speech, but they don't
necessarily.
Adam Curry: Well, the government
certainly don't. And the
Brazilian professor,
John C Dvorak: sure, the
government here does it either.
Adam Curry: The Brazilian
Professor guy brought up one
other thing which kind of stuck
in my brain, like, oh, yeah,
that's right. Another Elon hater
was Glenn Greenwald. Glenn
Greenwald did not like did not
like Elon, but there was this
whole thing kicked off with
Glenn Greenwald, who, I might
add, is politically active and
lives in Brazil.
Unknown: Well, it all began when
Elon Musk, right after having
taken control of Twitter.
Released some internal
communication within Twitter and
gave them to Glenn Griswold, who
is well known for being behind
the Snowden affair. And those
communications showed that
during President bolsonaro's
legacy, the legal system in
Brazil censored many, many
Bolsonaro militants and fan and
was doing some interference,
clearly, in Brazil's democratic
system. And it ended up by, well
as of today, censorship of
Twitter in Brazil.
Adam Curry: So we can't, on one
hand, say, Oh, poor Tim pool, he
got duped by the Russian money.
Not think that anyone else is in
that that happens to except us.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, where's our
Russian money? Our Russian
millions, 100,000
Adam Curry: per episode. If
that's what I'm less or I'm
waiting for, I'll be all in
Ruski Uber Alice, good to go.
John C Dvorak: There's a good
one. Ruski Uber Alice, kind of
mixed metaphor, if there ever
was, I
Adam Curry: don't know where it
came from anyway, so Well, the
John C Dvorak: problem is that
we're too damned objective. I
Adam Curry: have no hate for
Elon Musk, but I just keep my
eye on it, and I do it for you,
for you people, I'm just keeping
my eye on it. I just you, just,
you can.
John C Dvorak: I like the fact
that you're you're adamant,
yeah, I like it. Yeah. You
should give me as a
counterpoint. I can, yes,
looking for flaws in your logic.
Adam Curry: I'm very happy. I'm
very happy the Brazilian
John C Dvorak: thing, there's
more, there's more to it than
we're getting. There's info,
there's missing information. I'm
totally convinced of that. I
Adam Curry: agree. I agree. We
don't, we don't have everything
yet. But for a guy who spent $44
billion of other people's money,
you know, has completely blown
all advertising away. No one
wants to advertise there
anymore, you know. And
everyone's running, oh, Elon's
the best, you know, with, with,
you know,
John C Dvorak: you know, I had,
I think it was Horowitz who
brought it up. So, just a
success pool, Twitter's bad. And
when it just said something
minor. I feel just the opposite.
As far as I'm concerned, after
Elon took over Twitter, it is
hilarious, as you always bitch
about I broke too much reposting
too many things. I think Twitter
is funnier than it's ever been.
It's got more nut balls, even
though a lot of it's derivative,
because they steal tick tock
clips and put them on Twitter.
Yeah, lot of the best stuff is
tick tock. Yes, still, but I
think talk is just,
Adam Curry: just so we know,
I've never said I don't like
what, what x is. I mean, I think
it's funny too. It's better than
me funny. Yeah, no, I'm they
John C Dvorak: have a lot of
phony baloney, AI stuff that's
really, have you seen the one
with the fly on his forehead?
Adam Curry: Hold on. There's
another thing Elon Musk started
open. Ai started it yes to for
to warn everybody and to keep
the dangers, the danger of
artificial intelligence in
check. And now he's got the most
outrageous grok thing running
which does anything crazy you
want it to. So how does that
work? What is his actual modus
operandi? You know, it's not to
make money on x, because that we
know is not happening unless he
gets his all of his money.
Offset. Or he's
John C Dvorak: definitely, he's
definitely posting too much on
Twitter, yeah, with commentary.
He's either post or reposting
with commentary. He's always
been the thing, wow, I put,
he'll put that a lot, yeah, and
look at this. Or, Oh, this is
bad. And seems to spend more
time on Twitter than Trump used
to, yes, and which makes you
wonder.
Adam Curry: And I follow and I
follow that. You know, the his
jet account is,
John C Dvorak: uh oh, I've never
followed the jet account, yeah,
it's still on
Adam Curry: Mastodon the guy,
because he got kicked off of
Twitter for doing that, and the
guy still posts on Mastodon, so
I follow him there. And Musk is
flying every day. So he's
flying, he's in the air. He's
John C Dvorak: tweeting when
he's in the sky. Yeah, of
Adam Curry: course, of course.
But you know, so is he really
running companies?
John C Dvorak: I'm wondering
about that, which, again, brings
you back to my original point,
which is, I think he knows how
to hire people well, and he
seems so good at it.
Adam Curry: Or he's been put
installed to run Kleiner
John C Dvorak: party. Have he's
just, he's a front man, yes, for
the intel community.
Adam Curry: Probably, I mean,
when I saw him with rulov Bota,
who is now the CEO of Sequoia
Capital, he was his handler,
clearly, during the Tesla
launch. You know, the guys at
PayPal kicked him out. They
hated him. So, you know, look,
John C Dvorak: I don't see him
hanging around with Peter Thiel
or any of the guys, no, because
they
Adam Curry: hate him. They
thought he was kooky, didn't
like him, didn't like what he
was doing, thought he was not a
minor player. I mean, there's
lots of, lots of evidence they
don't the PayPal Mafia doesn't
like him, so, you know, like
each other, possibly so. But I
have no hatred towards Elon. I
think it's phenomenally funny,
but I am definitely keeping my
eyes open for humanity. Yeah,
not me. You're just retweeting,
like, look at this nut ball. You
are all in on it. You love it.
John C Dvorak: It's great.
Adam Curry: I know, I know you
think it's great, but you know,
you know some of us care about
the world.
John C Dvorak: Well, at some
point you get over that, yeah.
Well, I'm
Adam Curry: not there yet.
Unknown: You're getting there.
You get no, no, no, I
Adam Curry: have at least
another 10 years before I become
like that. No. And
John C Dvorak: let's do, uh,
let's do the three by three and
talk about this
Adam Curry: all right. Now it's
time for three by three. Yeah,
baby experiment by JC D
comparing stories from ABC, CBS
and NBC, the never endings. So
the jonesboy syndicator back in
action for you, huh? They
John C Dvorak: or Steve? Yeah,
it fits here because I had a
series of three clips on China
spies. Ah, yes, okay, first, so
I wanted to play the three by
three to see what the network
was doing. Then we'll go to NTD
and have better stories, because
it gets as we know, NTD hates
China, yes,
Adam Curry: yes, exactly. All
right. Where
Unknown: do we start?
Adam Curry: This is ABC, CBS,
NBC, the spies in America. We
have several of them. It turns
out,
John C Dvorak: yeah, I think,
well, there's a lot of spies.
Let's face it, yeah, there's
everyone's all shocked. And my
favorite stuff is coming up with
the discovery that there's spies
in the Chinese embassies. Oh,
no, we don't do that ever. No,
no, no, nothing we would ever
do.
Adam Curry: No way. So
John C Dvorak: let's start with
the short one and start with
NBC. Okay,
Unknown: before we top aide to
New York Governor Kathy Hochul
was arrested today on charges of
acting as a secret agent of the
Chinese government. Chief
Justice contributor Jonathan
Deans is following this and John
According to prosecutors, how
did this work?
Yeah, well, prosecutors
say Linda Sun betrayed her
official office by instead
acting on requests of Chinese
communist government officials.
Son is charged with acting as an
unregistered foreign agent. Her
husband was also arrested today.
He's accused of laundering
millions of dollars from China
into the US. The couple pleaded
not guilty in federal court.
According to the indictment, the
scheme went on for years. In
return, son and her husband were
allegedly given business
opportunities in China and
luxury gifts. The FBI says the
pair used that money to buy a $4
million home on Long Island and
a $2 million condo in Hawaii.
Governor Hochul office says Son
was fired last year after
evidence of misconduct was
discovered. Lester
Adam Curry: misconduct that's
not classified as
John C Dvorak: buying ducks, and
she also worked for Cuomo. And
the thing that's funny,
interesting is that she, or she
is an assistant, you know,
working in the government,
driving a Ferrari, and nobody's
suspicious of this.
Adam Curry: Hey, Kathy, you. So
what, I'm what I missed in all
of these news reports. And I
don't know if, because you have
two other ones here. Did Hochul
come out and talk to anybody
about this? Has anyone asked her
to speak on camera? Oh,
John C Dvorak: no. Hochul claims
that she's responsible for them
for kicking her out. Oh, okay.
Oh, smart move. That's what. No,
she came out and said, Yeah. She
says she was suspicious. I don't
think the Ferrari as for a
government worker, was much to
evidence. But okay, and
Adam Curry: How stupid are you
as a spy to be rolling around in
a Ferrari? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there you go.
That's actually a good point
that why would a spot good spies
don't go around driving around
Ferraris in the Emmy James Bond
might. But you know, we're
talking about real spies? Well,
Adam Curry: you know, there's so
much there's so much corruption.
You see all these like that
Mayor, all of these people who
get into government places, a
lot of them women, actually, and
then they just go nuts on
spending and buying cars and
taking trips, and think that no
one will figure it out, because
I think the corruption is so
deep and the money has been
flowing for so long, I'm talking
decades, they're
John C Dvorak: delusional. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes,
John C Dvorak: they're totally
delusional. Let's go to a B C's
report
Unknown: tonight. A former aide
to two New York Governors has
been arrested and charged with
spying for China authorities
searching the Long Island Home
of Linda sun and her husband,
Chris who, federal prosecutors
say the couple received,
Adam Curry: who, who spying
husband
Unknown: Chris who, federal
prosecutors say the couple
received millions in kickbacks
from China and laundered the
monetary proceeds to buy the
mansion and then Hassett New
York for three and a half
million dollars a condominium in
Honolulu, Hawaii for nearly 2
million in various luxury
automobiles including a Ferrari
Sun worked for former Governor
Andrew Cuomo and his successor,
Governor Kathy Hochul for more
than a decade, and never
disclosed any benefits she
received. Instead, prosecutors
say she acted as an undisclosed
agent of China, allegedly
blocking representatives of the
Taiwanese government from having
access to the New York State
Governor's office, and changing
the governor's messaging
regarding issues of importance
to the Chinese Sun traveled to
China, as seen in this photo
included in the indictment,
where prosecutors say she met
with officials from the Chinese
Communist Party. She and her
family also allegedly received
gifts from China, including
tickets to shows, concerts and
events, as well as salted ducks
prepared by a Chinese settlement
official's personal chef. Sun is
a naturalized US citizen who was
born in China and rose to become
hokul is Deputy Chief of Staff
late today, Hochul responding,
I'm curious, and I'm outraged,
absolutely shocked at how brazen
her behavior was. It was a
betrayal of trust, the trust of
government, the trust of the
people. And I'll tell you this,
the second we discovered some
levels of misconduct, we
fired her and a
representative for former
Governor Cuomo, saying that
while he was in office, son had
little to no interaction with
the governor.
Adam Curry: You know, it's kind
of funny in the parallel
universe. Before we left for for
our quote, unquote vacation, we
finished up Veep.
John C Dvorak: And oh, you
finally finished Veep. Yeah. And
so in
Adam Curry: the last season,
where they kind of compress
everything and get it done, they
didn't even have a full season.
It seemed like she's running for
president again. Selena Meyer
and she hires a campaign
manager, and it's, it's the
wrong guy. She thought it was
some other guy. And this dork,
like a total dork, oh, he comes
in, and they keep shutting him
out of meetings, everything, and
and, you know, because actually,
if someone, she has someone else
running the campaign, and then
it turns out that guy is
actually a Chinese operative.
And then he's in, he turns
around and starts threatening
her, like, oh, no, you if you
don't do that, we're gonna want
to, you know, we'll never let
you become president. She says,
you know, you got to take care
of my husband. They blow her
that guy calls the Chinese. They
blow up her ex husband on his
boat. You know, it's just like,
it's Wow. It's like this has
been going on, and that's why
they parody it. You know, these
spies and the ones you never
expect, except the Ferrari might
have been a clue. Ferrari.
Ferrari, you know,
John C Dvorak: she, when you
look at she also did a speech.
She gave a speech on dei and how
important it was. Oh, yeah,
Unknown: there you go.
John C Dvorak: I've seen that
this, when you see her, she's
one of those. She has a certain
look that you see when you when
you go to China and you're
escorted by Chinese escort
nationals who who speak no guys.
It was just like a guy in this
case, perfect English. Perfect
English. Yeah, red flag. Well,
besides that, the sense of
humor, they, it's weird because
they they can't do, they can't
deal. You have this theory about
a sarcasm in certain uh,
cultures, those cultures, but
the. Chinese, perfect speaking
English, speaking Chinese, in
Chinese, Chinese. We're talking
about the Nationals. Their sense
of humor is not there. They
don't have it. And they you can
I remember this one. We were on
this bus, and there was this guy
from uh, giving us a lectures as
we're driving around the bus, a
bunch of us, and I'm in the
front, and I'm making my doing
one liners, just one thing
after. And I noticed this guy
was he looked at me like, funny.
Like, what? Why is he was saying
that, and it would and I
realized he has zero sense of
humor, which encouraged me to do
this even more well. So I would
say something that was
incredibly funny. We have guy
was oblivious. This girl looks
like
Adam Curry: that guy. We have a
clip that accentuates that lack
of humor.
Unknown: Don't laugh. Why you
are laughing? Shut up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly so
onward, now that we moved to the
CBS clip. Slip the CIA says,
Linda, what do you have to say
to the allegations?
Unknown: Linda's son and her
husband had nothing to say as
they walked out of a Brooklyn
federal court Tuesday, the
former high ranking aide to New
York Governor Kathy Hochul and
her predecessor, Andrew Cuomo,
pleaded not guilty to several
charges accusing her of a brazen
scheme to serve as a secret
agent of China, a
lot of the allegations.
FBI agents raided Sun's Long
Island Home back in July. At the
time, the reason was not
disclosed. Now, the Justice
Department alleges she shaped
New York State messaging to
align with Chinese priorities,
blocked references to Taiwan and
government documents and stopped
meetings between state and
Taiwanese representatives. In
return, Prosecutors allege sun
and her husband received
millions of dollars in business
in China, along with personal
benefits, such as paid travel,
event tickets and a job for a
family member. Federal
investigators also claim the
couple laundered the profits to
purchase several multimillion
dollar properties and luxury
cars. Nice hochul's office said
son's employment was terminated
in March of 2023 after evidence
of misconduct. And a
spokesperson for Andrew Cuomo
said son had little interaction
with the then governor in her
roles under his administration.
Tony, all right. Trika, thank
you very much.
Adam Curry: You know Cuomo is
going to have to come before the
I think it's a Senate committee
about, you know the 15,000 old
people he indirect, indirectly
killed. But I wonder if she was,
you know, any, I don't know
this. You get China, you got
Yeah, and why don't we do what?
What they do with our agents,
kill them.
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
thing that the one aspect of
this that I find baffling is
that they fired her in March,
and then they raided her place
in July, and she's still here.
Why didn't her, she and her
husband pull up stakes and head
out?
Adam Curry: And is it
interesting that if you look at
the known Chinese spy stories,
it's hokel Democrat, it's well,
well, Democrat, oh, well, and,
and, what's the the old bag?
What's her name? From Feinstein?
Feinstein, 20 years you know
Democrats,
John C Dvorak: Democrats keeping
an eye on her. I know it's this.
It's Yeah, well, let's go to
what NCD has to say. In place,
China spy is one. This is in D,
D, the State
Unknown: Department confirmed
today that China's counsel
general in New York is no longer
in office. The department said
diplomat Huang Ping was not
expelled and left after
completing his scheduled
rotation. The clarification came
after New York Governor Kathy
Hochul had said she asked for
the Chinese diplomat to be
expelled to send a message to
the Chinese officials who worked
with one of her former aides,
Linda sun. Sun was charged
yesterday with being an
unregistered agent of the
Chinese regime. Here's State
Department spokesperson Matthew
Miller addressing the issue
today
foreign interference, including
attempts to influence by through
covert activities that should be
registered under the Foreign
Agents Registration Act and are
not registered. Are things that
we take serious, very seriously,
as you saw by the action
Department of Justice took
yesterday.
Adam Curry: Where's the Chinese
influencer, cash? You know, what
are those guys? Dumb? You got to
get some of those podcasters.
Hint, hint, you got to get some
podcasters on the payroll if you
really want to influence anyone
in America. And by the way, this
timeline, which is bothersome,
March 2023, and now it's coming
out, this has got to be a ramp
up towards the the Pacific.
John C Dvorak: There's something
go. You're right. This is a ramp
that's too that is suspicious.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: we got to go out,
start going after China. Pretty
soon it's been in the man,
John C Dvorak: I think this is
all part of the, yeah, we have
to keep the money going to
Ukraine or fix that problem. So
we, let's set this, do this bull
crap with the election
interference and RT of all play
places. Yeah? And now, let's
ramp this Chinese thing up, even
though I think your original
point, which is, why don't we
just kill them like they do to
our people in China? Yeah. Okay.
Onward.
Unknown: This comes after Linda
sun, a former Deputy Chief of
Staff a to Governor Hochul and
former Governor Cuomo, was
charged with conspiring to
violate the foreign Agents
Registration Act that's on top
of other charges like alien
smuggling, money laundering and
visa fraud. While working for
state government, Sun influenced
the messaging of high level
state officials. In the
indictment, Prosecutors allege
that sun blocked Taiwanese
government representatives from
communicating with officials, as
well as obtained official New
York State proclamations for
Chinese state representatives
without authorization. So
Adam Curry: here's a
commonality. So we have Farah
act in the news today in two
separate cases, one, Russia,
two, China. But you know who's
not registered under the Farah
act APEC? Why? Because their
money comes from the military
industrial complex. So as long
as you're in that camp, you're
good to go influence all you
want. Yeah, this is like, come
on. Okay, so, well, this is
interesting. I didn't expect
this, actually, but 60 minutes,
did a profile of Gina Raimondo.
Oh,
John C Dvorak: God, I saw that.
Yes,
Adam Curry: I got a couple
clips, because she goes, let's
finish the spy. Oh, I'm sorry. I
thought you were done with the
spies. No, no, you
John C Dvorak: did you play
clip? Dude? Did you play clip?
Adam Curry: That was that was
clear to clip three, I'm sorry.
Clip three,
Unknown: I missed that one. And
joining us now to explore how
Chinese consulates are involved
in CCP spy operations on
American soil. Are two guests.
Nan Su is a senior investigative
reporter with The epic times,
and Jimmy Quinn is a national
security correspondent for The
National Review. Thank you both
so much for joining us. Great to
see you both again. And so I
want to start with you from your
research, what is the role of
Chinese consulates when it comes
to the Chinese regime's overseas
operations?
Well, first of all, thank you,
Tiffany, for having me. Now the
Chinese Consulate for long, long
time, many years, they have been
reaching out local different
Chinese group like oversee
Chinese alum alumni groups,
Chinese student groups, local
culture groups, for example,
certain peoples from certain
region, They will have speak
different dialects, and so they
form some of the local cultural
groups. And what they have done
is they will have this group
after these groups of form, they
will keep the tight connection
with only three or four,
basically, very small group of
top leaders. You know, we they
know the true relation between
their group and Chinese
Consulate, and how, that's how
the Chinese Consulate control
all different all these
different groups.
And expanding on that, Jimmy we
saw in 2020 when the Chinese
Consulate in Houston shut down,
video showing personnel burning
papers or documents in the back
from a national security
perspective, what is your
reaction to those videos?
Well, it's important to know
that the Chinese Communist
Party's long arm reaches right
into American cities, and the
Chinese consulates are directing
the hand of CCP repression. So
the role that they play is that
they are engaging with community
members, as Nan said, and
exerting the party's malign
influence over politics, over
community organizations. It's
all part of the party's united
front strategy.
Adam Curry: This is a Red Scare.
Repeat
John C Dvorak: a little bit.
They definitely this went on and
on. I stopped it there, because
it goes on and on with holy, you
know, the different groups and
the different kinds of way they
do the spying, and then the
phony baloney police
departments, including the one
they set up in New York City.
It's kind of fascinating. They
do a decent job, but they get
caught. So, so do we?
Adam Curry: So let me now that
you've said that the 60 Minutes
interview with Gina Raimondo,
where did she come from? Gina
Raimondo, did she just she was
John C Dvorak: the governor of
Rhode Island, I believe, really.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Gina Raimondo. I
will consult the book of
knowledge. Briefly, she, she
looks spooky, by the way.
John C Dvorak: She's creepy.
Yeah, she
Adam Curry: is kind of creepy.
Let me see, well, it doesn't say
where she comes. I need the
Wikipedia. So she was
interviewed. Why? You know,
well, there's, there's a couple
of reasons. Probably, when you
think about this, oh, she was in
here it is. Oh, she began her
career in venture capital.
John C Dvorak: Ah, yes, she was
point VC Judith capital,
Adam Curry: Rhode Island's first
venture capital firm. Then she
was the general treasurer of
Rhode Island, where she
prioritized reforming Rhode
Island's public employee pension
system, money, money, money.
Okay, so she's, she's a, she's
been around. She's a mover and
shaker. So
John C Dvorak: she, she seems
dumb, though, well, you
Adam Curry: got to be careful
with the dumb ones, the most
dangerous. So she pivots from
Russia to China in this
interview. And we started off
because, well, you'll hear what
what she her whole thing, and
she's the What is this? What
does the Department of Commerce
really do? What is their job?
John C Dvorak: Became an issue,
a point that she explained in
this interview, because she
didn't know what it did either
when she took the job. Let's see
Adam Curry: if she explains it
here.
Unknown: What does the Secretary
of Commerce do until now? Mainly
promote US businesses abroad. It
had not been a high profile job
till Gina Raimondo turned the
second tier agency into a center
of job creation, manufacturing
and national security. Once the
governor of Rhode Island,
Raimondo, at 53 seems to have
come out of nowhere to become a
rising star of the Democratic
Party.
Adam Curry: Got to be careful of
those rising stars that come out
of nowhere and
Unknown: of the Biden
administration as Commerce
Secretary, she's running new
projects that, as we first
reported in April, could touch
the lives of every American, and
she's helping lead the expanding
cold war with China and confront
Russia's aggression in Ukraine.
The battlefield for both
John C Dvorak: do with Russia
and Ukraine? Well, it's
Unknown: coming up is
technology. Technology,
if you think about national
security today, in 2024 it's not
just tanks and missiles. It's
technology, it's semiconductors,
it's AI, it's drones, and the
Commerce Department is at the
Red Hot center of technology,
Adam Curry: the red hot center.
Okay, so she This is making more
sense. She's placed firmly in
all of these issues with Russia
and China
Unknown: and at the Red Hot
center, a global chip war ramped
up, says Gina Raimondo, when
Russia invaded Ukraine, the
Commerce
Department stopped all
semiconductor chips from being
sold to Russia. Every drone,
every missile, every tank, has
semiconductors in them. And you
know Leslie, you know we're
being effective, because shortly
after we started that work, we
heard stories of the Russians
taking semiconductors out of
refrigerators, out of
dishwashers, out of breasts.
John C Dvorak: By the way, you
should stop for a second. I
heard this. This is bull crap,
of course. How many refer I have
a big refrigerator. I got
dishwashers. I've there's no
semiconductors in any of the
gear I have. And I'm in the
United States with high end
gear, yeah,
Adam Curry: but, but she says,
here they took them. They took
semiconductors out of breast
pumps. Yeah, come on.
John C Dvorak: And they just
can't take random semiconductor
and then all of a sudden put it
in a drone. I mean, is this a
chip? You can do any bull, yeah,
it's a chip. That's exactly
right. That's the way she it's a
chip. It's a chip. Just is so
much nonsense. She's the same
woman that we had a clip. I
don't know if we actually played
it, but we had the clip of her
being called out on the fact
that there was this job, the
jobs report was off. And she
says, Well, Trump's a liar. Oh,
was this Bureau statistics that
said this? And then she says, I
never heard of him.
Adam Curry: Hold on a second,
liar,
John C Dvorak: it would be a
good we just played
Adam Curry: ramondo, yeah,
unfortunately, I don't have
John C Dvorak: he was she
Anyway, she's, she's a dummy.
That was just the other day. It
was just the other day. It was
recently. Yes,
Adam Curry: jobs report, let me
see. Well, I'll look for it
while we continue with this
clip,
Unknown: out of refrigerators,
out of dishwashers, out of
breast pumps, getting the chips
to put them into their military
equipment. However,
the Russians are now working
their way around this. They are
successfully and they're doing
better in the war. Probably.
Because of this, you are
right in what you say, but she
says it's absolutely the case
that our export controls have
hurt their ability to conduct
the war, made it harder, and we
are enforcing this every minute
of every day, doing everything
we can now.
Adam Curry: Do you hear her
speaking there? Does she sound
like Kamala Harris, or what
John C Dvorak: she sounds a
little BS, is a milieu? Yes,
Adam Curry: listen to it again,
that
Unknown: our export controls
have hurt their ability to
conduct the war. Made it harder,
and we are enforcing this every
minute of every day, doing
everything right there, right
Adam Curry: there every minute
of every day. All right. So
Unknown: talk about this
enforcement. These are some of
the enforcers. We should talk
about our controls on Russia.
Raimondo, team at Commerce that
monitors and polices the ban on
any company in the world from
selling products with American
chips in them to Russia, China,
but not just Russia.
I've made sure that the most
advanced American technology
can't be used in China. The
Chinese warn that these export
controls could trigger an
escalating trade war. Trade with
China accounts for 150,000 US
jobs, and if trade ends, we lose
our jobs.
We want to trade with China on
the vast majority of goods and
services, but on those
technologies that affect our
national security. No, no, no.
Those advanced chips are in
consumer goods. Banks use them
hospitals. This is going toward
products that are made for
civilian use, yeah,
well, they also go into nuclear
weapons surveillance systems.
And we know they want these
chips and our sophisticated
technology to advance their
military, just so
Adam Curry: you know, breast
pump chips are spying on you.
She is a member of the Council
on Foreign Relations and an
Aspen Institute Rodel fellow. So
here so now she's gone to the
Chinese and this is what it's
all about.
Unknown: Her toughness has made
her a target in China, where
fake ads have her promoting the
new Chinese made smartphones.
Last year, the government in
Beijing hacked her email, and
when she was in China,
Adam Curry: what they hacked her
email? This would have been a
pretty big story, of the Chinese
are hacking
John C Dvorak: whole story of
this whole presentation is bull
crap for the fact that the
Chinese are putting they
developing. Here's what a lot of
people believe is happening when
they would, would Biden put the
kibosh on sending certain kinds
of chips to China that they that
are made in Taiwan anyway, as if
they can't get a back door from
Taiwan. But that's
Adam Curry: coming up. That's
coming up, yeah, is that
John C Dvorak: the Chinese are
going to start doing their own
fabs and they'll catch up? Well,
Adam Curry: this is the story
her
Unknown: email. And when she was
in China on a trip, ironically,
to improve relations, the tech
company Huawei introduced that
new smartphone with an advanced
Chinese made chip. It was kind
of in your face, as if to say,
look at the chip, and it was a
pretty good high level chip.
Adam Curry: Leslie Stahl knows
all about high level chips.
Unknown: I have their attention
clearly, and they've gotten
yours. Well, what tells me is
the export controls are working
because that chip is not nearly
as good. It's years behind. What
we have.
Adam Curry: How does she know
all this is years behind? Yeah,
what
John C Dvorak: is years behind?
Mean, I mean, the reason for the
newer chips is because they're
cheaper and faster, but the old
ships. I mean, you can use a
phone that's five years old and
is still dynamite. Yes, this is
near old crap.
Unknown: Really is good. It's
years behind what we have in the
United States. We have the most
sophisticated semiconductors in
the world. China, doesn't we've
out innovated China. Well,
we, you mean, Taiwan, fair while
American companies design the
world's most advanced chips,
none are actually made in the
US. 90% of them come from
Taiwan, and they are key to the
future of us, military weaponry
and China, from time to time,
threatens, you know, the wolf to
invade Taiwan, and some people
say the whole reason is to get
their hands on those chips.
That's a problem. It's
a risk. It makes us vulnerable.
There
Adam Curry: it is. We have to
protect our chips made in Taiwan
from the Chinese.
John C Dvorak: That's that's as
we can. Come here and the chips
Act's doing nothing. Nope. The
tmsc guy, the TSMC guy, came
over here and you can't set up
shop because of the labor laws
and whatever, he says, screw
that. And then recently, since
they gave a billions to Intel
because they have a couple of
fabs, and they're going to build
some out, and then Intel made
this announcement. I think it
was in the last couple of weeks
that, you know maybe we're going
to get out of the ship, making
business, the stock skyrocketed.
So, I mean, what is going on
here? These guys are just
bumblers.
Adam Curry: What does Intel do
besides chips? Nothing. So
they're just going to become a
VC or something. No,
John C Dvorak: well, if they
don't, I mean, they can,
they're, most of their designs
are, I think I don't know where
they're making their chips at,
but they can make them in
Taiwan, just like anybody else
does, right? Or any other fab
someplace
Adam Curry: else, getting out
your fab business is what they
see. Yeah, they were thinking of
John C Dvorak: getting at,
thinking of getting out of the
fat business, even though there
was some rumor going around that
they were going to start making
Nvidia chips, which is very
humorous, yeah, because they
can't sell enough of their own
chips, but they were thinking of
making Nvidia but once. But the
thing that's the kicker is when
they said they might get out of
the fab business, the stock went
skyrocketing. That's funny. So
some things so these guys that
are running things are but and
with Raimondo at the at the top
of it, are bumbling idiots.
Adam Curry: Well, since you
brought up Nvidia, I might as
well play it.
Unknown: He's AI's top dog being
brought to heal. Nvidia has
reportedly been issued a
subpoena by the US Justice
Department amid a deepening
probe, Bloomberg reporting that
the DOJ suspects the chip making
giant of using monopolistic
practices to keep clients from
switching to other suppliers and
penalizing those that don't use
its chips exclusively, the
company defending itself in a
statement
in video, wins on merit, as
reflected in our benchmark
results and value to customers
who can choose whatever solution
is best for them.
The recent boom in artificial
intelligence applications like
chatgpt has put Nvidia's
specialized processors in high
demand, with sales more than
doubling each quarter, its
annual revenues have skyrocketed
from 16 billion in 2020 to more
than 120 billion expected this
year. Regulators are reportedly
focusing on Nvidia's recent
acquisition of run AI, which
makes software that manages AI
computing sales practices that
favor clients who run Nvidia
products exclusively are also
said to be under the microscope,
led by CEO Jensen Huang.
Nvidia's blockbuster performance
has seen its share price more
than double this year, briefly
becoming the world's most
valuable company. The probe
comes at a pivotal moment for
the industry, though, as the AI
boom has been losing steam on
markets over fears that its hype
has far outpaced its actual
economic benefits.
Adam Curry: I did not have on my
bingo card the Department of
Justice kicking off the AI
downturn. That was pretty
interesting. Nvidia beat their
numbers, but yet the stock
dropped by 10%
John C Dvorak: Yeah, kind of
nuttiness goes on constantly,
Adam Curry: yeah. Well, you
heard it there. It's like, well,
we're not so sure that. See,
yeah, I'm, I am bearish on AI.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
that. There's a nice story that
came out saying, so far AI has
lost half a trillion dollars. I
had to look twice at it, half a
trillion, trillion. Wow.
Adam Curry: Hey, with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage. In morning. The in the
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the chip roar. Say
hello to my friend on the other
end, the one the only Mr. John
John C Dvorak: C divorce, well,
well, in the morning to you, or
Mr. Adam curry. In the morning,
all ships the sea boosted the
ground, feet in the air,
substance in the water and all
the days.
Adam Curry: All right, let's see
we have in the troll room, 1733
which I think is kind of on par.
Where's my where's my peak
number? Cotton, oh, the peak was
1862 Thank you, cotton gin. All
right, for Thursday, makes
sense, especially on this, this
kind of holiday week which are
still in, I don't know if people
did people even go back to work
anymore.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, why bother?
Yeah, just,
Adam Curry: it's just stay home.
And of course, we have the, you
know, right to not be disturbed.
We should have that's good.
That's good. That's coming in
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So what do you do on x? You
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John C Dvorak: I'm just that's
an interesting phrase. They
might catch on.
Adam Curry: I've only been using
it for six months,
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
it.
Adam Curry: I say it every
single morning when we start the
show, I said, boost the two,
retweet the tweets and slash the
X.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
this. Okay? And you say it every
single morning,
Adam Curry: every show morning,
yes, as we go into
John C Dvorak: the No, as I was
every morning, just wake up. I
Adam Curry: just wake up. That's
right. I said good morning.
Slash the X baby. Let's go,
boom. And Tina's All right, hold
on a second. By the way, Tina
got put in comment jail. But for
she doesn't know she
John C Dvorak: What does she
say? Does she know what she's no
no, but she doesn't know what
she said,
Adam Curry: No. So this is on
Instagram. And so she posts, she
can post. She posted, you know,
picture, video of the surprise
party, and she says, Hey, I
can't comment. And says, You
can't comment for a week.
John C Dvorak: I said, Well,
when she says something, she
doesn't, She's not the type of
person that says the cool, nasty
stuff. No,
Adam Curry: she must have hurt
somebody's feelings.
John C Dvorak: I mean, how else
does it? That's not the kind of
that's not the way. No, well,
she must have said, used a rot,
you used the word weird or
something. Again, that doesn't
count.
Adam Curry: Okay, we'll let you
slide. Doesn't count. Well, let
John C Dvorak: you say I'm
quoting that. She may have said
that because I know that some
wordage, just casual wordage
that people would normally use,
gets you put in these, these
prisons. I know
Adam Curry: you can't say kill
that's why people are saying
unalive. The unalive can't kill
it. No, you're killing it. Lady.
No, you unilate it. You can't
say rape. You can't say
pedophile. Say you say PDF file.
There's all kinds of yeah, oh
yeah. There's on the ground
that's also on X, on x,
John C Dvorak: if you do that,
you can't say pedophile on x.
Adam Curry: Go ahead, try it.
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, you
mentioned I won't. I never said
it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you can't. You
can't do that. It's No, I just
pedo, maybe I don't know. No,
she does, and she, you know, and
she's like, What did I do? And
you can't find out, which is,
makes no, yeah, that's
ridiculous. Makes no sense. How
John C Dvorak: you not going to
do it again if you don't know
what it was you did in the first
place. I know all these
platforms do this because they
don't have anybody working
there. It's all done by
machines. They're lazy. This is
like, the customer service,
like, I'll have some issues with
my YouTube TV. No, you tried to
contact there's no customer
service. You can't use this.
Whatever it is. You tried
Adam Curry: to contact someone
at Google. That's No, you can't,
like trying to contact someone
at Apple. It's like, no, not
possible. No, no. It's not
unless
John C Dvorak: having difficulty
getting YouTube TV to work on on
the you'd think one of my
browsers, well,
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
You'd think that with all the AI
that Google is involved with,
there'd be an just say, and I'm
going to use the word an awesome
AI chat bot,
John C Dvorak: who could, oh,
there is, there's an AI chat
bot. And don't know anything, go
here. Did that Was that helpful?
Yes, no, go here. Was that
helpful? Yes, no. It's always
no, because it's not helpful
Adam Curry: at all. No, where. I
have a problem with my USB. You
know, I'm looking up all kinds
of AI and search engines. And
no, I
John C Dvorak: have, you need
Darren. Darren O'Neill,
Adam Curry: that's right, you
need Darren. That's exactly what
it is. Darren is one of our
Dutch masters who create artwork
for the show. We use new art for
every single episode. It helps a
lot. It grabs attention. You
know, you throw it on your on
your timelines, people like,
whoa, what's that? And it's and
it also entertains us. We like,
we like. It entertains
everybody. Really good artists
is always entertaining. Ai
generated or not good art is
good art. So for Episode 1691 we
titled that joy boy. Oh, by the
way, you remember we were
talking about the word joy,
yeah, and I said it had
something to do with Nazis. We
thought we could have Joy
Division, Joy Division, so, but
a lot of people said, yes, these
were brothel camp brothels in
the concentration camps that
service the Nazi officers to
boost morale, as well as a form
of sex therapy for those with
homosexual tendencies who needed
to be shown the joy of the
opposite sex. And these sex
slaves in the brothels were
typically female Jewish
prisoners, and if they expired,
they just replaced it with more.
But they that was known as the
Joy Division of the Nazis. And
it kind of makes sense the Joy
Division in at NPR, they have a
joy czar. Well, yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: to keep it's got
to be a whore. Yeah,
Adam Curry: there you go. You
nailed it. Uh, thank you to Sir
net Ned, who brought us the
artwork for Episode 1691 was
pretty good. We were looking at
different pieces. This was the
vibe meter, where we had, on the
left, joy and hope, a nice green
colors, and on the right, fear,
anger and then just Trump's
head. Yeah, for the for the for
the vibe meter. And let me see
what other artwork was there
that we were looking
John C Dvorak: much. It was a
few Joy boy pieces that we
didn't like. We you know, they
were usable, but now we were
going to use that for the title.
And that was pretty obvious,
yeah. And people should
recognize. We usually spot the
title the show.
Adam Curry: Here's what's funny.
You were like, Hey, I like that
pack of cigarettes. I said it
says fags keep pubs alive. Do
you think that will be
understood everywhere?
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, you
got me on that one. And then it
was by tanta Neil, and the title
of the art was fags. It was
probably a bad idea. Sorry. That
was out I did like sweepers
pieces.
Adam Curry: Yes, I use new
newsletter. Sweepers new. I
think he's
John C Dvorak: new or she is
new. And they do. They're doing
evergreen that is usable to me.
So Evergreens are always
welcome. Yeah,
Adam Curry: let's see what else
was there.
John C Dvorak: They had a
picture your head with joy boy.
That was a bit much rather
disturbing,
Adam Curry: disturbing piece of
art. More AI stuff, of course,
some 60th I kind of like the joy
czar that Darren did, which was,
again, AI, but it was this just
dour looking clown who has a joy
czar button on. It's a funny
piece, but I think you thought
it was too gruesome.
John C Dvorak: No, you're the
one that thought it was
gruesome. I kind of liked it.
What I said we should use it.
Oh, no, no, I don't think,
whereas I keep looking for it,
I'm not seeing it. It's
Adam Curry: next to this on the
row with the bottom, yeah, yeah.
I
John C Dvorak: never said it was
too gruesome. I didn't like it.
No, you just said you liked it.
Well, I mean, I liked I didn't
like it enough to pick it. Okay?
It's a cute piece in the funny
way, because it's, you know,
it's essentially
Unknown: waltz, yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Is that waltz
dancing? That video everyone's
sending around the one
John C Dvorak: that he's wearing
his halter top, yeah, that one
that's a, like, a Texas gay
convention somewhere, Austin,
yeah, is
Adam Curry: that wall? No,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't. I
mean, I think somebody did a
walls head on it, but, no, I
liked it, but it might as well
be. His
Adam Curry: whole family hates
him. All of all of Minnesota
hates him. They have, like,
Walt's dunk tanks and shoot the
waltz head at the at the county
fairs, they don't like
John C Dvorak: him. He didn't do
a very good job of picking that
guy.
Adam Curry: Or did they? It all
dwells. There you go. It all
depends. It all depends. Well,
thank you, sir net Ned for
bringing us the artwork for 1691
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John C Dvorak: you're gonna send
it in. Send it in anonymously.
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John C Dvorak: a show donation.
Adam Curry: Oh, it Oh, it's da.
That's how long has it been
since you've had a show number
donation?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, at least
the months. And
Adam Curry: anonymous says no
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John C Dvorak: from stripe.
Nice. Well, thank
Adam Curry: you very much
anonymous, and you are top of
the list, with the top executive
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, very
interesting to say the least.
Fryer Freyja from The Hague that
comes in, is that right? Yeah.
With 343, 75 Hi John and Adam.
Adam and John, this is my first
time donation. So please deduce
me.
Unknown: You've been deduced
John C Dvorak: me. Blow out my
speech.
Adam Curry: Sorry about that.
Yeah, sorry, sorry. I'll try and
I'll dial it. This is my
John C Dvorak: first time
donation. Uh, greetings from
fryah in Don hog. Future Dame
mooseton. Muston is moose town,
moustane in bull dyke.
Lowlandia,
Adam Curry: future Dame moose
town, which is vegetable garden
in pool dyke. Lowlandia, yeah,
bull dyke, that's
John C Dvorak: what I said,
Unknown: okay, yeah,
John C Dvorak: I got hit in the
mouth by Dame tuttola And Iris.
A big shout out to Iris. I call
out Dame to Tola for being a
douchebag.
Adam Curry: Uh oh, she's calling
her out now. Okay, yeah,
John C Dvorak: she's in the in
the Bucky buddies, yes, the
Bucky not a code here. I don't
understand, but it's funny. It's
funny in Dutch, but something to
do with lesbians. I could, could
you add me to the birthday list
tomorrow? Friday, the sixth is
my 55th birthday. So the three,
three, 3.33, added up exactly on
my birthday. 9669, can I have a
biscuit for my birthday?
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
John C Dvorak: On the last show
I heard that there's another
Dutch listener who are Carano,
who has his birthday tomorrow, a
biscuit for him, too. They
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday, not a birthday
biscuit, and I hope to meet him
one day in a meetup, because
connection is protection. I
really love the meetup. So they
love the meetups in Holland,
that's for sure. They sure do.
So sorry that I didn't have a
chance to chat with you at the
meetup in Amsterdam because it
was so damn crowded. Thought I
got every time a blast, though.
Thank you for being there, and
congrats on your 60th birthday
on this oh, well, before I
forget, a big shout out to Arno
from ampstelveen, oh, for being
a fellow zip warrior, and Sir
Hendrick for his awesome T
shirts. Thank you so much for
the shows, for it is keeping me
sane. I always listen to the
show when I'm working in my
vegetable garden. Hence her name
and me laughing out loud because
of your jokes on this show. Keep
the others befuddled. Ha, ha,
thank you for your courage.
Adam Curry: We go to Dan from
Epping New Hampshire. S.
Switcheroo. He says, Hello, John
and Adam. I'm writing to wish a
happy birthday, and as her
birthday gift, a final
switcheroo donation for Angie to
finally claim her Dame hoods. He
attached to county, I request
that she be named Dame little
Anne of Where the Red Fern
Grows. Angie is my beautiful
wife, and we were recently
married. Congratulations. She
hit me in the mouth over a year
ago, and we started dating, and
I've slowly come to love
listening to the show together
and overjoyed to give her a well
deserved title. I'd like to Yes.
I'd like to request that she be
deduced.
Unknown: You've been deduced.
Adam Curry: What? It's too
John C Dvorak: loud. I
Adam Curry: keep turning it
down. It's still too loud. I
don't understand, by the way,
that's only on your mix. It's
not that bad in the final but
the rest of the stuff is normal.
John C Dvorak: It's there's
Adam Curry: reasons. I'd like to
request that she'll be deduced
and have some baby making karma
for the round table. May she
have salmon nigiri and a plate
of 12 lengua tacos. Thank you,
Dan. PS. Special thanks to T who
started the process of her no
agenda Daming and contributed
greatly in her becoming,
becoming the dame that she is.
Well, of course, we'll do that.
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Those are Tonga
tacos, by the way. Oh,
Adam Curry: you wanted to know?
I'm happy to know. And
John C Dvorak: they typically
are delicious, because if you
know how to cook tongue, Dame, a
mama Susan's in Escondido,
California, 333, Hi, I'd like to
deduce my daughter, Julia beats
you've been deduced Julia Beals
the birthday switcheroo. So she
gets credit. Her birthday was
September 1, and mine is this
Saturday. Hopefully they're both
on the list. Please send us both
birthday karma and add mariachi
music. Love and kisses. There we
Unknown: go.
Here we go. You've got karma.
Adam Curry: You ask, we deliver.
Michiel Buren is in flissingen
in the Netherlands, 333, dot 33
here's my long overduination.
This isn't my first one, but I
haven't asked for a deducing. So
if you could do this on this
one, that'd be nice.
Unknown: You've been deduced,
Adam Curry: and the show has
been valuable as always. The
last show, I especially like the
part about the strength through
joy. As a car guy, I also
recognize the term because the
Volkswagen Beetle was originally
named Kraft dur freudewagen,
strength through joy car.
John C Dvorak: That's that's a
little obscure I didn't know.
Well,
Adam Curry: of course, Hitler
did create the Volkswagen, as
the people's car, also known as
the KDF wagon, and part of the
KDF program used by the NSDAP to
make Nazis more joyful. So, yes,
the Nazis, those in Germany 33
to 45 did use the term
extensively, just so, you know,
I thought others might find that
interesting. NPR, thank you for
your courage and four more
years. Best wishes from me.
He'll buden, PS, good. L, sharp
and jingle always makes me
chuckle.
Unknown: R, E, s, p, i, C, T,
John C Dvorak: sir. Walkman.
Walkman in Louisville, or
Louisville, hard to say. I don't
know it's in Ohio, so I don't
know how to pronounce it
necessarily to pronounce it
anyway, 333, and keeping it
short and sweet, he writes, uh,
happy birthday. Adam, no
jingles, uh, Jace, GK, something
was that mean karma,
Adam Curry: no jingles, just
goat karma.
John C Dvorak: Jah, goat karma.
Duh, sir, welcome Duke of
Buckeye or Ohio. You've got
Adam Curry: karma. That's right,
we decode your messages on site.
Genevieve. Genevieve Wimberly is
in Liberty Lake, Washington,
313, 46 she says this is a row
of ducks plus today's show date
222, dot, 22 plus 91 dot, 24 to
celebrate the marriage of two
slaves, Kyle toig and Genevieve
Wemberly Wimberly getting
hitched on last Sunday's show
day is time for these newlyweds
to claim our seat at the round
table on our wedding day. Yes,
it's a four ring day. Big thanks
the best man, Brian Maloney, for
hitting us both in the mouth and
sending us on a path toward
knighthood to proudly be a
couple that no agendas together
and stays together. Of course,
we never had a fight. A quick
plug for sustaining donations
their surefire path from slave
to royalty. We'll be celebrating
our nuptials as well as becoming
a night in a dame by staying in
a castle on the mountain, as one
should baby making karma,
please, and a smokin hot wife
jingle followed by, it's true
for the bride and for the bride
and groom. And Kyle would like
to be dubbed sir spook of
Spokane, protector of
infrastructure. And Jen would
like to be Dame Jen with a G
protector of women's vaginas.
She is at OB, GYN, no, dude,
pussy please. Okay, at the round
table, we'd like patagong. Oh,
what is this? Did I order this?
We'd like Patagonian toothfish,
toothfish, French crepes and
champagne, please. Well, I don't
have any champagne here because
they can't legally do that. So
they give you a what Cava. That
what they do here in, uh,
outside of the Champagne region,
cava, uh,
John C Dvorak: cava, Spanish,
yes. Well, this Cava still
imported. Adam
Adam Curry: question, where are
you in Mexico for your birthday,
just north of Puerto Vallarta,
where the love boat docks? We
leave for Sayulita on Thursday's
show the fifth producers comment
thinking about Trump's fall
endorsement. What about Dave
Chappelle? No, I don't think
that. I don't think Dave
Chappelle will will move the
needle that much. Thank you very
much for your donations.
Congratulations. You will be at
the round table for your
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what you're requesting.
Unknown: You've got Parma,
John C Dvorak: that's true. Now
we have Dame Astrid, the art
Dame Astrid, oh, the arch
Duchess and Archduke of Japan,
and all the disputed islands in
the Japan Sea. I think it's
coming in from both of them in
Tokyo. Dear Adam, happy
birthday. The nice thing about
turning 60 is that one can
finally say, Get off my lawn
with a smile, great confidence
and with no regret. Much Love
Dame Astrid plus Sir Mark, yes,
the arch
Adam Curry: 6260 of Japan and
all the disputed islands in the
Japan Sea. Next, Associate
Executive Producer 250 the
Harper team from Temecula,
California. Is that I pronounce
it Temecula, yep. Please feel
free to shorten this if it's too
long, it is my husband and I
never miss an episode. The
Harper team, founded by Jason
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top producing husband and wife
real estate team in Southern
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Since 2021 we've assisted an
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Interesting. You can contact
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are happy to help you find the
perfect home or get top dollar
for your current one. Well,
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California. Yes. Go to go to
Tennessee, for sure. Thank you.
Harper team.
John C Dvorak: Eli, the coffee
guy's up. He's in bensonville,
Illinois, 20905 Eli says, over
the weekend, we visited the
Bristol Wisconsin Renaissance
Fair, and a lot of people had
some really cool medieval garb.
There were jousts, jugglers,
acrobats, magicians and furries,
yay. This seems to be the most
popular with the teenagers.
There costumes, yes, but not
very period authentic. All
performers operate on the value
for value system, which made me
think it was it got a cup out,
which made me think of the show,
especially with so many dressed
as nights for producers who
support value for value in all
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Adam Curry: ITM 20 is the code
ITM 20. Pat Eckert in Rochester,
you said ITM No. Pat Eckert in
Rochester, Minnesota, $200
Associate Executive producership
This. Oh, it's a switcheroo.
This donation is for Alex
Eckert. Let me change that right
away. Alex, okay, taken care of
who is leaving this year to go
to school in La Crosse,
Wisconsin for the firefighting
program. There you go. That's a
young guy I'm talking I can't
believe it's been 18 years
already. We are proud of you.
Can you give all the no agenda
kids leaving home this year? Can
you give all the no agenda kids
leaving home this year? Make it
Oh, make a ton of money and buy
your parents cool crap karma. I.
We all As parents, we all wish
for that. We all hope our our
kids are able to go off and be
so successful they can give us
cool crap. So for, oh, for
three, thank you, John and Adam.
And here's the karma.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: by your parents,
cool crap.
John C Dvorak: And last on the
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Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Adam Curry: And that concludes
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We'll be thanking the rest of
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Donations.com support the show,
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Unknown: is this, we go out, we
get people in the mouth.
Us, shut
Adam Curry: up. All right, I
have, well, there's, I have
different stuff, just a just a
quickie, because this has been
one of our staples for so long
on the show, then maybe we'll
try one more time, one more time
to see if the Department of
Homeland Security will consider
licensing our excellent Jeff
Smith jingle DHS has
Unknown: designated September 25
as if you see something, say
something Awareness Day, also
known as hashtag seesay day on
September 25 and year round,
stay prepared to identify the
signs. Report suspicious
activity to local authorities
and help prevent terrorism
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make the difference. Learn more
by visiting dhs.gov/see say
Adam Curry: something. It's so
good.
John C Dvorak: I know it's
crazy, giving it away. Yes, yes,
you just want some credit here a
couple of clips that backs up
your thesis that you always like
to bring out, where the New York
banker thinks that all this
immigration is working out.
Adam Curry: Oh well, it's not
just the New York banker. It's
all the New York Bankers.
John C Dvorak: It's all the
bankers. So here's New York
banker. I got two clips that
kind of just goes along that
line of thinking. The US
Unknown: is experiencing the
largest immigration surged since
the great wave of the late 1800s
the Congressional Budget Office
says an overwhelming majority,
around 6.5 million, are illegal
immigrants. There were fewer
babies born in the United States
last year, less than 3.6
million. Then there were illegal
immigrants coming into this
country. Population
researcher Steve Mosher says 10%
of those babies are the babies
of illegal immigrants.
I'm all in favor of more
children. All right, I'm all in
favor of population growth. I
think a population decline leads
to economic collapse. It leads
to societal collapse.
Mosher says this immigration may
help the US with its
historically low fertility rate,
but he says it's better for
citizens to have more babies
than illegal immigrants. Census
Bureau data suggests most
illegal immigrants are young,
have a low level of education
and are ready to work. These
immigrants compete with native
foreign Americans for low paying
jobs, and this is likely to keep
wages relatively low.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's the
whole idea. It's working,
John C Dvorak: from the sounds
of this report, it sure is. Of
course, it would be nice if we
have babies, but nobody wants to
do that. No. So here we go with
part two.
Unknown: The jobs most commonly
worked by illegal immigrants are
as construction workers,
housekeepers, cooks and
janitors. The overwhelming
majority come from Latin
American countries like
Venezuela, Mexico and Honduras.
Many are also from China,
Russia, India or Africa. Their
top destinations are California,
Texas, New York, New Jersey and
Florida. The Congressional
Budget. Office estimates the
migrant surge will boost federal
revenues by 1.2 trillion over a
decade. It says the surge will
boost economic activity and the
migrants themselves will pay
taxes.
Adam Curry: Don't worry, they'll
pay taxes. Well, this brings me
to I should mention
John C Dvorak: that they left
out the other job opportunities
for them, which is apartment
Adam Curry: management, managing
apartments. Yeah, if that's now
spread to Chicago, isn't she,
the Venezuelans, supposedly,
John C Dvorak: but there's, you
know, well, yes, I had a clip
about some guy threatening them
with, yeah, the black guy, the
black guy in the car, yeah, the
black guy with the switches,
which is a rigged Glock, yeah,
and yes, there's been, you know,
the the actual evidence of this
is, is scant.
Adam Curry: Well, just That's,
oh, there you go, producers, we
need the evidence. Get into
those apartment buildings, let
us know what's going on. Now,
this baby thing is a is a point
of propaganda, anti propaganda,
from the from the Democrat run
mainstream media, which is all
of it. And sorry to do this, but
I do need to bring in joy Reid,
because she's, of course, still
the spokes hole for MSNBC. She's
so good at it. And you know,
whenever you're talking about
babies, if you're talking about
American babies, then you're a
dick basically, then you're just
a douchebag. And she actually
has a name for it, and it's not
just the people. Obviously,
she's talking about JD Vance,
because He's weird. But also
about the
John C Dvorak: count, no,
Adam Curry: it doesn't count.
Also about the podcasts that the
President is going on. You know,
he's been on Theo Vaughn, I like
John C Dvorak: everything he was
freed
Adam Curry: megs, Freedman.
Friedman, yeah. And, and here
you go. Listen to this. Well,
Unknown: if it's a day that ends
in why, that means yet another
clip of Donald Trump's running
mate, Senator JD Vance, has
resurfaced. And folks, if you
thought it couldn't get any
weirder. Think again. There it
is. Take a listen to comments
that he made back in September
2021 when asked about where he
thinks gender and racial
resentment come from.
To me, what it is is sort of a
value system to replace the fact
that they're all fundamentally
atheist or agnostic. They have
no real value system. Their only
value system is achieve in a
very conventional way, and so
the idea that somehow they're
pursuing racial or gender equity
is like the value system that
gives their life meaning. Well,
of course, they all find that
that value system leads to
misery, leads to unhappiness.
Clearly, this value set has made
me a miserable person who can't
have kids because I already, you
know, passed the biological
period when it was possible, and
I live in a 1200 square foot
apartment in New York, and I pay
$5,000 a month for it, but I'm
really better than these other
people. What I'm gonna do is
project my like, racial and
gender sensitivities on the rest
of them. I mean,
what? Seriously?
I mean, did anybody, anybody
from the Trump camp, met this
guy? But I guess it isn't too
surprising.
Adam Curry: So then she
introduces a term, which I think
we need to be on top of, What
John C Dvorak: is her problem?
To what he said,
Adam Curry: she's just laughing
for laughing sake, but it's a
setup to discredit men. Hello,
and not just men, but the
manosphere. Wait, manosphere.
Where's the manosphere? The
Unknown: trove of unearthed
comments from Vance, all seem to
have one thing in common. They
all vilify women who don't have
kids, specifically biological
kids, which may sound odd to
those of us on earth one, but
it's actually a popular
sentiment in something called
the manosphere. The manosphere
is basically a network of online
communities, websites, blogs,
forums and podcasts, podcasts
that all promote masculinity,
misogyny and anti feminism, they
are obsessed with birth rates
and the idea that women should
be nothing more than baby
makers. Only job should be
taking care of the home and
raising children. Praised a 2017
report on families written by
the architects of project 2025
the introduction to this report,
calling it admirable, and should
trump and Vance win the White
House, these ideas as long with
the along with those of the
manosphere, could become a
reality for the rest of us,
something we know because their
buddies wrote it all down in
Project 2025 the.
Man, the
Adam Curry: manosphere, baby. I
John C Dvorak: didn't remember
that word being in the project
2025, manuscript. It
Adam Curry: is now the
manosphere. We are part of the
manosphere. It used to be toxic
masculinity, yeah. Are you a man
John C Dvorak: or toxic
masculinity? Are we toxically
masculine? The two of us, I
would hope so kind of old to be
toxically masculine, and I'm
catching up. Does that count?
I'm
Adam Curry: catching up the
manosphere. The manosphere,
yeah, that's it. It's it's Tim
pool, the Joe Rogan, no agenda
show. I'm just inserting us into
the big names. Theo Vaughn with
the manosphere. Man, we got
podcasts. They're coming for
podcasts, by the way. Have you
noticed there's ever since Trump
started going on all these
podcasts? They're coming for
podcasters. Podcast, no good
man. Oh, sphere, oh, wait,
here's Alex. Alex Wagner, MSNBC,
again tonight.
Unknown: JD Vance spoke at an
event for the conservative group
turning points USA, which
supports Donald Trump. Trump,
meanwhile, is sitting for a town
hall this evening on his
preferred network, Fox News. And
even though Trump speaks almost
exclusively to friendly outlets,
he has broadened his horizons
this election cycle, the New
York Times reports this week on
Trump's new strategy to court
what is being called the man
overseer.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
hey,
Adam Curry: hold on a second. I
like manosphere now it's man
overseer. Consolation
Unknown: of YouTubers,
pranksters and streamers with
massive online followings.
Adam Curry: If you're a
podcaster, it's manosphere. If
you're a streamer, it's
manoverse.
Unknown: The aim here is to
target young men and to exploit
and deepen the existing gender
divide between Trump supporters
and Harris supporters. And these
streamers in the man overseer
all of whom are young white men.
They have hosted Trump on their
online channels for what might
technically be called
interviews, but really defy any
sort of journalistic
characteristics. Oh,
Adam Curry: they're not really
interviews. They defy any
journalistic integrity or
whatever. So
John C Dvorak: yeah, Donna Bash
is much better at the hard
questions than some podcaster.
Adam Curry: So I have one clip
from Lex Fridman with Trump.
Have you noticed that Trump does
mirroring in these podcasts?
Yes,
John C Dvorak: he does mirroring
a lot. So it was brought up by
Tyrus on the guy I wish should
taking the clip, because it was
quite good, right?
Adam Curry: Tyrus part of the
manoverse, because obvious, he's
not white, and
John C Dvorak: you know, he says
he's not, he's honorary,
honorary man. He's honorary
white, uh, Trump lover, yeah, he
goes off on Lex Freeman is
saying, How can this guy talk
any slower? I wanted to, yeah,
kill him, you know. And went on
and on about, it's quite funny,
yeah, and
Adam Curry: so you saw it with
Theo Vaughn, Trump was totally
mirroring Theo Vaughn and with
Lex Friedman, it was Trump was
almost, you know, was he
breathing? Wow, it was we got
really slow. And this is the one
clip I pulled. But
Unknown: a lot of big people
went to that island, but
fortunately, I was not one of
them. It's
just very strange for a lot of
people that the list of clients
that went to the island has not
been made public.
Yeah, it's, it's very
interesting, isn't it probably
will be, by the
way, so if you're able to,
you'll be,
yeah, certainly take a look at
it now. Kennedy is interesting
because it's so many years ago.
You know, they do that for
danger too, because, you know,
endangering certain people, etc,
etc. So Kennedy is very
different from the Epstein
thing. But, yeah, I'd be
inclined to do the Epstein. I'd
have no problem with it.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: no problem. All
right, yeah, another reason to
vote for Trump. Answer, there
another reason to vote for
Trump. He's gonna release the
alien
John C Dvorak: files. Yeah,
Kennedy files, yeah, everything,
yeah. I, where
Adam Curry: have I heard that
before?
John C Dvorak: We'll see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have the
because you bring Trump in just
to balance things off. I do have
Harris's Small Business speech,
which I want to play. Yes. This
was I have a question to ask you
about. This is a two parter.
Here she is in part one.
Adam Curry: Make sure I have the
right one. Yeah, this is kind of
her whole economic policy that
she announced with this. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: right. In a
nutshell,
Unknown: yeah. Vice President
Kamala Harris spoke in New
Hampshire. Wednesday afternoon,
she revealed a new part of her
economic plan focusing on small
businesses. Jason Blair brings
us the latest
in Portsmouth. Vice President
Kamala Harris proposed her new
plan to quote support small
businesses and invest in
entrepreneurs.
Part of my plan is we will.
Expand the tax deduction for
startups to $50,000 second, my
plan will help existing small
businesses grow. We will provide
low and no interest loans to
small businesses that want to
expand. She
says she wants to make it easier
to open a small business by
removing hurdles and creating
support. And her campaign says
Harris has the goal of creating
25 million new business
applications in her first term
as president, if elected.
John C Dvorak: All right, well,
so she's going to do throw some
money in tax benefits. It's not
like you're gonna actually get
any cash. No,
Adam Curry: you actually have to
be a small business that is
making profit to take
John C Dvorak: any benefit, any
benefit. Yeah, but here's the
part that gets me as a part two,
there's a thing in here that
just, I just befuddled by, I'm
gonna ask you. Okay,
Unknown: according to AP, since
Biden took office, about 19
million of those applications
have been filed, and the Granite
State is how many 19 million of
those applications have been
filed, and the Granite State is
a bit of a deviation from her
recent focus on battleground
states such as Michigan,
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Poll
averages for New Hampshire are
showing Harris up by 5% over
former President Trump. The
Trump campaign responded to
Harris's announcement to help
small businesses, saying in a
statement, quote, why hasn't she
done it during her four years as
Vice President? After the
Portsmouth event, Harris will
travel to Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania, where she is
expected to stay until the
debate between her and Trump on
September 10. Trump is also
visiting Pennsylvania this week.
On Wednesday, he'll be appearing
at a Fox News Town Hall in
Harrisburg. Okay,
Adam Curry: what's your
question?
John C Dvorak: What is this
application they're talking
about? I
Adam Curry: looked for that's
funny. You say that. I'm like,
Hey, how can I get in on this?
Do you need an application?
John C Dvorak: You just either
do it or you don't. Don't. Yeah,
you
Adam Curry: just hang out a
shingle. You're good to go reply
to
John C Dvorak: anybody the Small
Business Administration to start
a small business? Yeah, she
makes it sound like you got to
go through jump through hoops to
start a small business. You
Adam Curry: don't. That's
America. That's the beauty of
it. You just say, here I am.
Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: how does she know
that? As far as she's concerned,
everything goes through the
government. Well, that's what
she wants.
Adam Curry: Exactly what she had
a similar clip, but also I had
the name of her economic policy.
Did you not catch the names
she's branding it?
John C Dvorak: You know what?
Night I did not catch it. I'll
just play a little bit of this
Unknown: as a late comer to the
race. Kamala Harris has been
rolling out her agenda piece by
piece, focused on what she's
branded the opportunity economy.
There
Adam Curry: it is, the
opportunity, the opportunity
economy, okay? So
John C Dvorak: the opportunity
economy, so the regulations, so
Kamala an opportunity to fill
out more forms.
Adam Curry: Kamala went to
Pennsylvania, and a couple
things happened. First,
President Biden was there as a
surrogate to to help her out.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, and,
Adam Curry: and, I don't know if
this
Unknown: helped you no longer be
the manufacturing capital world.
Where the hell is that written?
We are the greatest
manufacturing city or county in
the world, state in the world.
Remain that way. Eric dean of
the ironworker,
Adam Curry: I love that the
people are just clapping.
Bricklayer, yeah. Bricklayer.
Unknown: SEIU, his dad was
great. And Jimmy Williams, the
painters Allied Trades. And then
his dad, his dad's a really good
man.
Holy crap.
John C Dvorak: Jimmy Williams,
who has
Adam Curry: the nuclear codes,
who has them? And now I have a
question for you. There's
John C Dvorak: more stuff into
you. I mean, I'm glad you got
that clip. I didn't get any, but
he was just off the rails. It
Adam Curry: was the real Biden.
I mean, he's still he's the real
Biden is out there trying to get
something done to show that he's
still alive, which is all that
he is. I mean, this guy, this
this person, cannot be, uh,
running our government. You
know, do you think that that
there's still, let's say, how
about this? What if Trump wins
the election, Kamala could still
pull a quick switcheroo? Do the
25th amendment be the first
female black president for two
months?
John C Dvorak: That would be
funny. Like, why
Adam Curry: not? She could be in
the history but she's crazy
enough to do it. I mean, what
does she have to lose? Well,
John C Dvorak: at that now, I
didn't, you know, I didn't
consider that. I've always
thought about her pulling that
stunt so she'd be the president.
She can't do it before the
election, because then it would
look like she was trying to, you
know, get some it looked cheesy,
but I never thought about it
after the election, yeah, or
maybe two months, I think it's
the whole of December, she'd be
the president. Yeah, she could
do almost November and part of
January.
Adam Curry: She could start a
nuclear war in Ukraine, do
anything she wants. Now, this is
a very well known clip, and I
have a question about this clip
for you. Everywhere
Unknown: I go, I tell people,
Look, you may not be a union
member, you better. Thank a
union member for the five day
work week, you better. Thank a
union member for sick leave you
better. Thank a union member for
paid leave you better. Thank a
union member for vacation time.
Adam Curry: So of course,
everyone focused on her code
switch. There her southern
drawl, which came out. But is
that true? Did the unions create
the five day work week, the sick
the paid sick days and vacation.
Was that the unions who did
that,
John C Dvorak: I think this
needs looking into. It was,
Adam Curry: in fact, Henry Ford.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, right,
because Henry Ford this. There
was a special on Henry Ford on
the BIOS channel, and they
discussed this. And it was the
problem with what Henry Ford ran
into. He invented the assembly
line, yep, because the the I'll
just run down it, you know, to
watch it. But he was the demand
for the Model T Ford, which took
him five years to develop. And
he had a bunch of the Dodge
Brothers, included investors he
had to pay back. Eventually he
got the thing out, and because
it was cheaper than anything
else, and it was, it was
reliable and rugged, and the
demand went through the ceiling.
And so he by looking at a meat
packing plant, he decided to
invent the assembly line, the
modern assembly line for
automobiles, so he could keep up
with the demand for the car. And
then what it turned out, as he
did this, the jobs were so
repetitive and boring that
people were quitting left and
right. He had a huge employment
problem. He couldn't keep
anybody working there because
they were quitting left and
right. It was because it was
dull. And that's when he
invented these things.
Adam Curry: So it was not a
socialist union member. It was,
in fact, the capitalist
industrialist Henry Ford who you
need to thank. Just a little
point of contention, yes, on
your agenda. Yes, she's
John C Dvorak: full of shit.
Let's face it.
Adam Curry: All right, this is a
day late, a day short. These
Unknown: actions will not be our
last.
Attorney General Merrick Garland
announced terrorism charges
against senior leaders of Hamas.
The charges relate to their
roles in the atrocities
committed in Israel. On October
7,
the Justice Department unsealed
charges against Yahya senoa and
other senior leaders of Hamas
for financing and directing a
decades long campaign to murder
American citizens and endanger
the security of the United
States.
The charges come after Israel
said it recovered the bodies of
six hostages who were killed by
militants in captivity, that
included Israeli American Hirsch
Goldberg Poland. We
are investigating Hershey's
murder, and each and every one
of the brutal murders of
Americans as acts of terrorism.
Goldberg
Poland's parents are Chicago
natives who became international
icons in the struggle to free
hostages. They said they hope
their son's murder becomes a
turning point in the
negotiations. So
Adam Curry: okay, there
John C Dvorak: were hot. Here we
are the world's police. Yep,
Adam Curry: we were hot. There
were hostages since October 7 of
last year, and now all of a
sudden, we're going to engage
the military industrial complex
to go bomb them further.
Because, well, we got our arrest
warrants out for you. You know
what? This is, how this gets
interpreted by the nut jobs in
our Congress. And when I say the
nut jobs leading the pack.
Lindsey Graham,
Unknown: sinwar, your days are
numbered, pal. We're not gonna
indict you. We're gonna kill
you. We're
Adam Curry: gonna kill you. Just
send Lindsey Graham over to get
a tough talker. Send him over.
Send him over. There
John C Dvorak: you go. Now
you're talking to him. Do
Adam Curry: it. Let him do it.
John C Dvorak: Now I'm going to
play, I would like to play a
controversial clip, because
we've had people thinking that
we, you know, we are on the side
of Israel or in on the side of
Palestine, depending on who you
are. We're getting them. You
don't take sides on this thing
mosaics,
Adam Curry: but
John C Dvorak: we, you. We
share, Where's our money? So we
have, we know that the
Palestinians, or mainly the
Hamas people, are genocidal.
They want to end Israel and kill
all Jews. And we have to realize
that this is a two way street.
And I'm going to play a clip
from a podcast called Two nice
Jewish boys that is out of
Israel, and it's everybody's all
bent out of shape, because these
guys expressed what I think is
not necessarily a not
necessarily a singular thought,
because I think the Jewish
population of Israel is hates
the Palestinians. We've talked
about this to the to an extreme,
and is, and it goes both ways.
And I just think we should get
this out of the way so we can at
least be on the record for for
acknowledging this thing. Here's
the two nice Jewish boys,
Unknown: if you gave me a button
to just erase Gaza, every single
living being in Gaza would no
longer be living tomorrow. I
would press it in a second.
That's just, I think, I mean, I
think most Israelis, if that's
the choice, yeah, yeah, no, even
if it's not like right now,
yeah. And I would press it right
now, yeah. Same with the
territories. I would press it
right now. No choice, no. I'm
saying for the chance, yeah,
yeah.
I would press
it right now. Give me that
button and press it right now.
There you go. And I think most
Israelis would, yeah, most
Jewish, they wouldn't post. They
wouldn't talk about it like I
have. They wouldn't post. They
wouldn't say, I pressed it.
Yeah, but they don't have balls
of steel like you. But they
would press it right, like if
they were in a closet alone.
They wouldn't even hesitate.
Someone came to them and said,
no one will know you press this.
All the Palestinians are gone.
You'd be like, is there another
one?
Adam Curry: Well, I think this
is true. I know Sir Brian of
London would be all in on that.
And I think these two nice
Jewish
John C Dvorak: boys, by the way,
I want, I want to thank Sir
Brian of London for sending me a
bunch of books. Yeah.
Adam Curry: She sent everybody
books. Yeah. I think the two
nice Jewish boys, I have a
recommendation for a guest for
their podcast,
Unknown: sinwar. Your days are
numbered, pal. We're not gonna
indict you. We're gonna kill
you. Better kill you.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I was reading
Lindsey
John C Dvorak: Graham.
Adam Curry: I was reading I just
John C Dvorak: wanted to point
out that the genocidal maniacs
in the Middle East are
everywhere on both sides of
these arguments. It's not just
the Palestinians, one to kill
all Jews, all the Jews. And I
had a clip before. I don't know
if I ever played it, but it was
just somebody in the some one, a
woman, talking about the only
good Arab is a dead Arab. And
it's just as these people are
out of control on all sides, and
it's just something we need to
at least recognize
Adam Curry: and sad, because
ultimately, the whole dispute is
just over. Who makes better
hummus?
John C Dvorak: There is a there
is a moment of that. That's the
sad the best hummus ever had was
in Jaffa. Yeah, there you go.
Name Dropper. So
Adam Curry: I was reading the AP
report about the large scale
polio vaccinations, beginning in
war ravaged Gaza after the first
case in 25 years. You had a
report on that the last show.
But what was interesting is this
one little line in this report
from the Associated Press, the
polio virus that triggered this
latest outbreak is a mutated
virus from an oral polio
vaccine. The oral polio vaccine
contains weakened, live virus,
and in very rare cases, that
virus is shed by those who are
vaccinated and can evolve into a
new form capable of starting new
epidemics. So in fact, this
outbreak comes from previous
vaccination could
Unknown: be, yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, I'm pretty
sure it is
John C Dvorak: out of control.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's just the
world we live in. Man, it's just
the world we live in. Um, let me
see. Well, let's
John C Dvorak: see. I got some
other stuff here that could be
get gotten out of the way I
would since we talked about
immigration the United States
and how great it is for us,
let's talk about UK, because
they have a different opinion
about everything. Yeah, and this
is the UK immigration update.
Britain
Unknown: has rejected calls for
an asylum treaty with the
European Union. This a day after
12 migrants died trying to make
a perilous ocean journey from
France to England. NTDs
INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
Malcolm Hudson has more for us.
Britain has rejected proposals
to be part of a European Union
plan on asylum instead, Britain.
Reiterated its own plans to
tackle the criminal gangs behind
the UK's illegal immigration
crisis. This comes after the
French interior minister Gerard
dominin called for a treaty
following the deaths of 12
migrants who tried to cross the
English Channel on Tuesday. I
was
Adam Curry: a little confused by
this story, because I also saw
it, are they trying to make a
treaty where they pay France
more money to keep them, or it's
John C Dvorak: hard, it's not
made clear, but the British
aren't going for any of these
agreements with the EU regarding
immigration, because they think
they're taking the brunt of it,
because people are going through
Europe and saying, We don't want
to be here. We want to go and
it's explained In
Adam Curry: these clips, why
only valve the French say, go
ahead, go. Let's go. We go. Get
in the boat. Yeah,
Unknown: okay, next Dominion's
proposal could see migrants
claim UK asylum from within the
EU without needing to make the
dangerous journey. But this is
unlikely to happen. Other Prime
Minister Keir Starmer has
indicated he'd prefer to send
illegal immigrants back to the
EU despite the deaths of
Tuesday. Wednesday morning saw
several dozen more migrants
board a crowded boat on the
French coast of wimaru. French
patrol boats watched as the
flimsy boat labored through the
seas. The Coastal town's mayor
Jean Luc Dubai is also calling
for French and British officials
to do more to stem the number of
migrants attempting the journey.
He asked, Why do they want to go
to Britain? They can ask for
asylum in France, but he said
they want to go to Britain
instead. So Dubai says something
is drawing them to choose the UK
over France. It echoes dominance
remarks, dominant condemned the
people smugglers, but he pointed
to what he sees as Britain's
loosely regulated job market. He
said migrants are attracted to
Britain because they can often
work without papers and are
rarely deported. Yeah,
Adam Curry: and the bankers love
it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, same as
here.
Adam Curry: Sure, it's the exact
same issue we need. We need this
cheap labor to come on in
suppress wages across the
country. Yes,
John C Dvorak: suppressed wages
is the key. Yeah. Well, here we
go.
Unknown: Thomas said that in the
first two months in power, the
government supported over 400
people who have no right to be
in Britain. However, UK
Government figures show that in
the last seven days alone, more
than 2000 people have arrived in
Britain on small boats. So far
this year, nearly 22,000 people
have made the dangerous journey.
I
Adam Curry: think it's more than
that that seems low. That seems
low. Follow up to Chris,
John C Dvorak: we're comparing
to our just walk over and take
it Yes, although, if you recall,
during the show era, there were
these guys sneaking on the
channel trains, yes, and going
through the channel, which has
got to be a better way to get
into England. Yes,
Adam Curry: it's less wet. For
sure, it's
John C Dvorak: less wet net.
That's a terrible crossing.
Follow
Adam Curry: up on the femicide
story we did so when a when a
man kills a woman. Now the term
is femicide. I mean, used to be
homicide, and I have to call it
femicide. And producer, Joe
says, you know, I was listening
to that. And he was, he was
talking to an ER doctor from
Detroit. And this ER doctor
says, you know, I get patients
in the ER multiple times a week
who've been shot in the crotch
men. And of course, the question
was, well, is that because
they're putting the gun in their
waistband? Says, Yeah, you do
get that, but the vast majority
is their female partner who shot
them in the crotch, mainly for
cheating.
John C Dvorak: That's pretty
gotta be a term for that.
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
if there's a term for that, but
I think tranicide is on deck.
That's coming.
Unknown: Trane site.
Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of Did
you see the full Nashville
shooters, unredacted journal
that was released? I
John C Dvorak: haven't read it,
but I am aware of the fact that
it was released. Oh, oh, man,
it's horrible. We had a
policeman that was involved in
this who had seen it when he
reported to us that it's
horrible, and when it first
happened, he said they wouldn't
release it because it was so
gross. Well,
Adam Curry: it's clearly them
this. This kid was on SSRIs and
is just going through just a
roller coaster of emotions. It's
really, it's really nuts. And
now I'm wondering, we haven't
heard about it yet, but this,
this recent shooting in this
Georgia school, you know, 14
year old kid you know. Do we
know if, if this kid. Was on
SSRIs.
John C Dvorak: They never tell
us anything. They just say it's
because of guns.
Adam Curry: Producer sir Lane
Hart sent me a note. He says, I
just want to let you know that a
lot of things have happened in
Georgia this year, the lake and
Riley murder, illegal immigrant
murder in Athens, Georgia, about
an hour away from Fulton County.
Fannie Willis. Now this this
shooting in Georgia, and this
was almost like a gift for the
for Harris for the upcoming and
I'm sure there'll be questions
about it for the upcoming
debate. Then, of course, the FBI
knew about this kid and talked
to him, and oh, well, sorry,
couldn't do anything, right?
This is true. Seems, seems like
almost a gift for the debate.
You know what I mean? Not a good
people see, not a gift for the
dead kids. But you know what was
going on with this kid? We don't
know any we have a name, and
John C Dvorak: it was just the
beginning of the school year.
Wasn't like a build up. And he's
from another area, so it's not
like a build up of frustrations,
you know that he's picked up
halfway through the school year.
This just started, yeah, so
there was something else going
on, again, not reported to us.
We don't have a clue. I
Adam Curry: do have a clip about
this.
Unknown: Here, a community is in
mourning after another
unspeakable American Tragedy
America day just before 10:30am
Police say a 14 year old student
carrying an AR style rifle
opened fire at Appalachia High
School, located just about an
hour outside of Atlanta.
The gunshots were so close to
me, like my ears started ringing
real bad. Like,
Adam Curry: by the way, this
kid, this, this kid with the
dreads was on every it was like
there was one press conference,
and this kid was the only one
talking. I just found that
interesting. Every single report
I saw of this was this kid High
School
Unknown: located just about an
hour outside of Atlanta.
The gunshots were so close to
me, like my ears started ringing
real bad, like the whole
classroom was smoking. I had saw
one of my classmates on the
ground bleeding so bad, students
and
teachers barricaded themselves
in classrooms. You could hear
gunshots just ringing out to the
school, and you're just
wondering which one of those is
going to be somebody that you're
like, best friends with, or
somebody that you love. The
suspected shooter, identified as
Colt Gray, was taken into
custody alive. Later, ruffling
1900 students were escorted out
of the school and on to the
football field, where they
reunited with their families.
The FBI says the suspect and his
father were both questioned by
Jackson County Sheriff's
officials last year after they
received anonymous online tips
about a school shooting threat,
but at that point they did not
have probable cause to make an
arrest,
John C Dvorak: to make an
arrested keep an eye on him.
Yeah, this also people think
that this may be one of those
cases where the parent, I guess
there's only one, right?
Arrested, arrested,
Adam Curry: yeah, where was that
other one was that was Oklahoma.
It was
John C Dvorak: another,
Adam Curry: I can't remember the
name case fans. Time to expand
John C Dvorak: arrest parents.
Rest these parents. I
Adam Curry: think there's a big
Bonanza going on now with
advertising and native ads in
the big pharmaceutical space on
network television, because now,
now it's on, we've, we've been,
I've been following this, you
know, GLP one drugs they want to
get it on Medicare that keep
popping up, you know, these,
these very awkward and somewhat
devastating side effects. Now
they're just saying, Oh, it's
not the GLP one. It could be
this one. It could be that one.
And I think we're seeing a brand
war now, who's going to
discredit the other one as not
being the good one? And CBS, CBS
is in on this. Millions
Unknown: of Americans have
turned to prescription
medications to treat diabetes
and lose weight these GLP one
drugs better known by brand
names like ozempic with govi and
others, are very popular.
According to Gallup, about 15
million US adults say they've
used these injectable drugs to
reduce their body weight,
Adam Curry: and notice we have
Pfizer with a pill. So these are
the injectables. Some say
Unknown: those drugs can have
serious, negative health
effects. Our senior
investigative correspondent Anna
Warner has been looking into
that part of the story. And a
good morning. Good
morning. Tony, yeah, you know,
many doctors say these, GLP one
medications can offer dramatic
benefits for patients, but some
patients say they've had serious
side effects, ranging from
nausea and vomiting to needing
emergency surgery. Even doctors
admit they can't always know who
might experience these rare
complications, like one woman
from Pennsylvania, and
Adam Curry: then we get the one
from Pennsylvania with a heart
wrenching report.
Unknown: Diabetes is rampant in
my family, and I knew that that
all plays with weight. Juanita
Gantz struggled with her weight
at age 62 she weighed 242
pounds, yet the most she could
lose trying various diets, she
says, was about 20 pounds.
I almost felt defeated and
humiliated. I mean, why couldn't
I lose this weight? Then she
saw ads for drugs, including
ozempic.
Adam Curry: Her doctor, pretty
obvious, who they slamming here.
Read that
Unknown: because of her diabetes
risk, she was a good candidate
for one of those drugs and
prescribed her, we go V and
later, ozempic, both GOP one
drugs made by Novo Nordisk. How
are you feeling? Were
you I was feeling fine. I
Adam Curry: This seems so
obvious. It just me that this is
an obvious hit job on Novo
Nordisk and not on other
manufacturers,
John C Dvorak: while the ad
where they play the jingle that
seems to me to be just a
promotion, one
Unknown: drugs made by Novo
Nordisk. How are you feeling?
Were
you I was feeling fine. I
enjoyed the days that I didn't
have to worry about my appetite.
I didn't, have cravings. I just
felt like I was doing something
positive for myself. And then,
but several months later, in
october 2023 gantt's husband
found her on the floor
unconscious. This photo was
taken by her daughter, a nurse
at the hospital where Gant was
taken. I had no idea what had
happened to me. Doctors found
parts of her large intestine had
died. It had to be removed.
Then, while recovering from
surgery, she went into cardiac
arrest, prompting the hospital
to call her daughter to warn
her, her mother could die. This
Adam Curry: stuff will kill you.
Underneath. Here is Gant. Wanted
to
Unknown: show us how she lives
now, with her colon gone, she
has a bag called an ileostomy
bag attached to her abdomen at
all times to collect waste. I
had
no warning that this was even a
possibility. She's
now suing drug maker Novo
Nordisk, claiming its drug
labels do not adequately warn
patients and doctors about
potentially serious side
effects, including gastroparesis
or stomach paralysis and bowel
obstruction against attorney
Parvin amino Roya
always put a lot of resources
into marketing the drug,
hundreds of millions of dollars
to expand the market, get new
patients for the drug, but it
hasn't spent that money on
warning patients the risk of
gastroparesis, alias, small
bowel obstruction, and the fact
that these injuries can be
severe, even if it's in a rare
case.
Novo Nordisk declined to do an
on camera interview, but in a
statement, said the known risks
and benefits of the medicines
are described in their FDA
approved product labeling. The
company wrote that the
allegations in these lawsuits
are without merit, and the
company intends to vigorously
defend against these claims, I
Adam Curry: don't know, but I'm
thinking the pill is the way to
go. You don't want these
injectables from Novo Nordisk.
John C Dvorak: I Well, there's
two things going on at the same
time, and you have to
acknowledge your attitude about
one of them, which is that you
scare people. They use it. This
is the thing with the tobacco
warnings, agreed. So that could
be going on, because when they
play the jingle, yeah, that is a
trigger that is bothersome,
yeah?
Adam Curry: So people, you can
stop emailing me saying these
drugs are great, because I say
stuff like, you know this. This
was misunderstood. When I say
you can eat whatever crap you
want, people say it's not true
because you lose your appetite.
No, no. What I'm saying is you
can continue to eat the crap
food that most Americans
certainly eat, processed junk,
which has little health benefit,
if anything, the adverse the
reverse is true. And then you
get fat from all these horrible
ingredients, and you get just,
you just start to wither away in
your lard. And But then here's a
drug that will fix it. You have
to fix the root problem. The
root cause is, is not eating
actual food. No one's talking
about that. That's why you're
still with us. You're still
alive because you eat good food
you cook for yourself.
Unknown: What?
John C Dvorak: Where's my
Twinkies? We had a letter from a
doctor who because we played
that ad and all of side effects
that were just horrible. You
know, you break your bones, your
head falls off, your this sort
of thing. He says he'd been
giving his prizes. These are all
new to him. These, these side
effects. He's now seeing nothing
to indicate this, but he
couldn't explain where they came
from. But I have a couple more.
I don't have them in this series
of clips of more drugs with
screwball side effects. I mean,
why would you take a pill that
gives you tuberculosis? I mean,
how does that even work? You
notice this, or anal, more than
one drug that they ought to be
careful when you take this drug
and get tuberculosis. What?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: anal leakage. No
good. No good.
John C Dvorak: Um, I have a
Trump clip, okay? Just to, just
to balance things off, a little
bit, we played clips of Harris
yacking away, yeah, Trump. A
little bit with the LEX budget.
This, this is a classic. This is
the mosquitoes. Yes, the
Unknown: Democrats who there was
a mosquito. I don't want
mosquitoes around me. I don't
like mosquitoes. I don't like
those mosquitoes. I never did.
Okay. Speaking of mosquitoes,
hello, Hillary, how are you
doing?
John C Dvorak: It's just this
material.
Adam Curry: Man, oh, man, oh
man. You know, I've been
following what's happening in
Germany with the alternative
feud Deutschland party right
wingers, which is fantastic
because, you know, Schultz came
out and said, Hey, let's just
block them. Don't give them.
Don't do whatever you do. Don't
enter into a coalition with
them, which seems kind of
undemocratic, totally and then
it turns out that they went back
and checked the voting machines,
and in order to have to sit in
the minority, they actually were
one vote short, which was caused
by a computer glitch. Can you
believe it?
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, I can
believe it.
Adam Curry: And I have one
example. This is just an intro
to a roundtable conversation,
but throughout Europe, this is
it's the same message over and
over again, which I found just
disturbing to hear. You'll
you'll notice it right away.
Unknown: Germany is reckoning
with the results of regional
elections that have left many
questioning whether German
history is rearing its ugly
head. For the first time since
Nazi rule, right wing extremists
have won a regional election in
Germany in the state of syringe.
This
Adam Curry: is what you hear all
day long. For the first time
since the Nazis, the far right,
have, now, you know, garnered
votes. So it's just this. They
were hammering on this, far
right, far right, far right. Now
they just, they equated, equate
it to Nazis. And it's a bunch of
basically old German people who
are sick of the immigration.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's all it is.
And they're nationalists. They
want to protect the border and
make it Germany for Germans and
the devil forbid, and they're
Adam Curry: just being called
Nazis. This is, this is not
good. It's really It's so this
just bad. Props to you, Mr.
Dvorak, you are right. Thank
you. Amazon was not going to
stand for this team you and all
these Chinese dropship companies
that are practically given the
products away, and Amazon PR and
lobbyists are on the case.
Unknown: Federal regulators are
now calling for an investigation
into websites sheen and temu
over potentially deadly baby and
toddler products. Two Consumer
Product Safety commissioners are
behind the new calls, citing a
recent article online in the
information that makes
accusations alleging the foreign
owned bargain sides might be
selling products that don't
comply with us safety
regulations. Timu and sheen have
not commented on the article or
the possible investigation.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: they're killing
babies just we're going to ban
them on that reason. What's
happening to Tiktok, by the way,
isn't that supposed to be over
pretty soon? Aren't they
supposed to be
John C Dvorak: key? I wish I had
this clip. I'll get, I'll try
to, maybe I go back and get this
clip for Sunday, the Vivek was
on hair or fraud Ingraham show,
and he was mentioning that this
idea, he was pushing the Free
Speech notions, and he and he
mentioned tick tock as being
just basically a free speech
vehicle. And she jumped all over
him with, oh, no, you're wrong.
This is dead at all. These guys
are this Chinese spying on us?
And she went on off the deep end
about this, and she said, called
him ignorant for thinking this
way, and all the rest of his
quite unique issues really bent
out of shape about Tiktok and
how it should go. Well, there
Adam Curry: was a viral
sensation that took place with
Tiktok, which was a real head
scratcher, and Tiktok is being
blamed for it.
Unknown: Chase Bank is issuing a
warning about a viral Tiktok
trend. A number of videos show
people depositing checks for
large sums of money at Chase
ATMs and then making a
withdrawal for a smaller amount.
Many believe they got free cash
from those ATMs, but Chase Bank
says that wasn't a glitch. It
was check fraud a crime.
Adam Curry: Did you see any of
this in your tick tock? Travels.
So there were just oodles, I
said it oodles of videos. It's
actually a good word, saying,
Oh, look, if you deposit this
check, you know, people putting
in a $31,000 check, and then,
right away, you could then in
the you can deposit that into
the ATM, and you could say,
Okay, now I want $20,000 and
they were showing, I don't know
if it's true, they were showing
the machine spitting out $20,000
and somehow these morons thought
that this was free money. People
don't the youngins these days
don't even understand the basics
of banking.
John C Dvorak: So the other
thing is, the other thing is
that's not it doesn't work that
way. You can't necessarily put
the money in and take it out
immediately, and you can only
take out $400 that's pretty good
size checking account that has a
lot of money in it. And you
could trying to get more than
400 out, it doesn't spit out
$20,000 in whatever bills.
That's like, I didn't have that
much money in the damn thing.
That's
Adam Curry: why, when I heard
tick tock, I'm like, Okay, this
is an anti tick tock thing. What
else could it be? What else
could it be? It has to be
something like that.
John C Dvorak: Well, they
people, of course, you
identified it before I did,
which is that the anti tick tock
stuff is not it's is done by the
other social media companies.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: now they got it
away. There you go. Sorry,
John C Dvorak: let's work on
that. I've I do have a tick tock
Clip to play though, which I
think is a good one. Okay, this
might tick tock clip of the guy.
This guy floats around, does a
lot. He's on the street
interviews, and he's got some
woman on there who thinks Trump
should have been shot. Talk,
Unknown: talk, tick tock.
So Donald Trump was recently
shot at one of his rallies. How
do you feel about that?
I wish he would've gotten shot
in the forehead. Oh, this one,
really? Yeah. I mean, he's
basically like, teaching our
country, like, what communism is
like, so what? So you wish death
upon someone him, Yeah,
unfortunately, I hate to say
that, because I don't have
hatred in my soul at all, but I
think the way that our country
has divided families, marriages,
all of it about politics alone,
like it all really started with
him. So So
do you think wishing someone
death is not hateful?
I would say, yeah, absolutely. I
would say, obviously, I don't
wish death upon him. I wish that
he would be in jail for the
insurrection, which he should be
okay, yeah, but you just said
you wish that he would get hit
in the forehead.
Would have made things a little
easier on our country, but
actually really probably won it,
because the proud boys would
come out and start probably
shooting other people. So
the proud boys, yeah. Do you
think that, like, 60% of the
country are the proud boys that
support Trump? No,
I think a lot of it is, you
know, wealthy people that only
care about the finances. And,
you know, there's, there's a lot
of ignorance, I think in this
country, yeah, a lot of fake
news. And a lot of just
unhealthy like bias and
political propaganda, I don't
think we have a good. We're
fought essentially as a country.
We don't have a good we don't
have a good runner at all. So,
Adam Curry: yeah, this was, I
saw this clip, and I didn't want
to clip it, because I just like,
but I'm glad you did. What is
going on here? Is she has all
the right information. She's
just focused on the wrong party.
It's, it's the wicked, evil
Democrat party who is doing, and
I don't like being partisan, but
that is them. Everything she
said is what you say, being
yourself.
John C Dvorak: Hateful. Totally.
I said that twice today, but I
Yeah, 300% hate. I said 100%
Adam Curry: and, she's pretty
much an NPC. And the clue, by
the way, was those earthy, open
shoe sandals she was wearing. Do
you see a woman like that? You
need to walk the other side,
other direction. I'm gonna show
Unknown: my salad by donating to
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun. Oh, me we
Adam Curry: want to thank our
producers who came in $50 and
above. We don't mention below 50
for reasons of anonymity. And of
course, we have our sustaining
donors. We appreciate everything
that everyone does when it comes
to the time, talent and treasure
of our values. Value for value
model now, and it's almost 17
years that we've been doing
this. And John, would you mind
reading some of these? Thank
you,
John C Dvorak: yes. And I'm
going to throw it to you. We get
to the birthday donation. Sure,
sure, sure. Benjamin nites in
San Francisco starts us off.
Leonard, $66.66 he is doing a
big meetup up in the old cat,
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brewery in ronard Park, and go
to no agenda meetups.com to get
information. Uh, M, Andrew Jones
came with $111.11 and he, uh,
Adam Curry: he sent a note in,
but, oh, he's our he's the
writer, right? He's our writer.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he does fantasy
fiction, which is not easy to
write, and he's sending his new
book out. It's in the note.
Adam Curry: What's it called?
What's it called?
John C Dvorak: Look at the note.
I think I opened it. No, I
didn't know, but the
Adam Curry: book is called, let
me see clocking in at a hefty
160,000 words. It's called uh
under huge under oblara. Yeah,
under oblara, this chunky book
took over seven years to produce
and continues the adventure of
krigal Bear duvante As he tracks
the thief Humber to the wilds of
knoweth,
John C Dvorak: you get on his
newsletter list from M Andrew
jones.com Yes, like that, yes,
he by Count of very fine people,
yes, good guy. So he is a good
guy, and they definitely worth
checking out. Joshua Stanfield
in Moreno Valley, California,
$105.35 Uh, he's Charlie the
office cat, I guess. Or for the
cat, Baron latikin, our buddy in
Houston, Texas, 100 John Robin,
100 sir Kelly, SpongeBob.
Haven't heard from him for a
while. From the Rocky Mountain
House in Alberta, $100 no
jingles, no karma, of course,
not still listening for over 17
years, even though you only been
on 16.8
Adam Curry: he's magic. That man
is Sir
John C Dvorak: Road Dog in Twin
Falls, Idaho, 8008 followed by
Kevin McLaughlin, our Archduke
of Luna, lover of America and
boobs with the 808 boob
donation. Tom keys L in Hanford,
California, 808 Luca Marie l
asberto in savosa, ch,
Switzerland, Switzerland, I
guess that's where as eight oh.
And there's a switcheroo for
Marty from Otten, Alton, uh,
boobs. And belated Happy
Birthday to Adam. Yeah. Thank
you. Good for your day. Jeff
Noss bush in Minneapolis,
Minnesota, 7777, and you can
take the rest, because these are
all birthday call outs to Adam,
yes, and final but the final
batch of
Adam Curry: them, yes, the final
batch, and I think these are all
60. Some have some fees added,
so I'll just say they're all 60,
and I will read the fan the
Happy Birthday Wishes, surplus
fantasy, understood. Happy
birthday, says Daniel Bozak,
Mickey boss says, Happy
Birthday. Adam. He's the Irish
Catholic sinner. Julie G, happy
birthday. Adam. Happy belated
anniversary. John. Julie G from
Brighton, Ontario, in the
beginning was the 60. That's the
numerical value of the word,
apparently, says Paulo Moore,
happy birthday. AC from Brett
Harding, Happy belated birthday.
Adam from Timothy, Brashear sir
Timothy. Belated birthday wishes
from Valerie Ray, Alina of Avery
van harte feliz steered frolica
ZIL varchias, Alina and
Sebastia. Sir Rain Man, happy
birthday. Sir roderhead, happy
birthday. Nicole iovan. Iovan
Polly Robbins and Nicola Hannah
all say happy birthday, as does
Dave Jackson. I wonder if that's
the famous School of podcasting
Dave Jackson. I'm thinking it
might be. Ash is in Texas and
says Happy Birthday, and turns
53 today. So you're on the list.
Happy birthday. Adam from an
Indiana douchebag, Steve Brown
in Monticello, Edward Bala in
shul. Cork Ireland. Happy 60th.
Happy birthday. Adam. We will
raise a glass the upcoming
Tilburg meetup, says Baron Robb
Happy Birthday. Adam from Alison
olsofsky, happy birthday. Adam
from Dan in Mount Juliet needs
some jobs karma. I hate that at
the end for you. And the final
one is from Eric Frederick's a
happy birthday, and I thank you
all very much. It's been a very
happy birthday. It was nice
turning 60, accentuated by I
mean, it was I feel good. I feel
good about this age, and I'm
good for another four more years
at least. Brian
John C Dvorak: Furley is up
next, and he's at 5510, it's.
Sir Tom dari comes in at 5510 uh
Troy, Thunder Burke in Missoula,
Montana. 55 Heather Harper in
Lubbock, Texas. 5333 Mark
Hardwick in Aledo, Texas. 5333
Michael gates, Parts Unknown.
5280 John basano in Madison,
Alabama, 5272 and now we go to
the 50s, which is curious,
because you need to have any of
the 50 Oh ones, which is fine
with me. Matt frazzi Frazee in
St John's Florida, foster foster
birch in New York City. Daniel
leboy in Bath, Michigan. James
Shara Mehta in napanoch Kurt
Patrick in naimo. BC. Our
Canadian friend, Jacob Martin is
in El Monte, California. Michael
Felix in Modesto. Chris con
Necker, coniker connecr in
Anchorage that. Alex Zavala in
Kyle, Texas. Kalori Kerry crooks
in Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia. Make some comment
about the money. Jason deluzio
in Miami Beach, sir, Jason and
Sir Severn up partridge in San
Rafael, California. Want to
thank all these people for
making show 6092 the reality
that it is. And
Adam Curry: thank you to all our
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs
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and we do have a list here. Dame
mama Susan wishes her birthday
her daughter, Julia Beale, a
happy one. This is belated
celebrate on the first Dan says,
Happy Birthday with his wife,
Angie, it's her birthday today.
Jay wishes Marnie a happy
birthday. Is this? RJ, our very
own, Jay. Jay and her dog,
Marnie. Ah, her dog, Marnie,
turns two years old today. Happy
birthday. Marty Ashton, Texas,
turns 55 today. Freya turns 55
tomorrow, and day. Mama Susan
herself, she celebrates us.
September 7. Happy birthday for
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe. And no
title changes, but we do have
two Dames and one night to bring
up, so we'll bring out why to
John C Dvorak: Dame one night.
Adam Curry: Very nice play.
Thank you very much. Up on the
podium, Angie Genevieve,
Wimberly, Kyle towig, all of you
are gonna get that shiny, nice
ring and an official knighting
or Daming ceremony. I'm very
proud to pronounce the KB as
dame, little Anne of Where the
Red Fern Grows. Dame Jen with a
G, protector of women's vaginas
and Sir spook of Spokane,
protector of infrastructure. For
you, we've got hookers and blow
Ren boys and Charmin a
Chardonnay salmon nigiri and a
plate of 12 lengua tacos,
Patagonian toothfish, French
crepes and champagne along with
sparkling cider, escorts, gin
trail and gerbils, breast milk
and pablum and, of course, the
mutton and Mead. That's right,
it's always here for you at the
round table. And if you go to
noagindarings.com Give us all
your information so we can send
off your handsome night and Dame
ring. There's a handy sizing
guide there so we know what size
to send to you. It is a signet
ring, so we provide the wax for
which you can use to seal your
import correspondence. And as
always, to make it official,
there is a certificate of
authenticity. Thank you all for
supporting the show and welcome
new knights, new knights and new
dames to the no agenda
roundtable. No agenda
yes, those no agenda meetups are
always like a party. People like
coming together. The people that
part that no agenda together
stay together, and often party
together, as is the case with
the North Idaho sanity brigade.
Here's their meetup report. Hey,
it's sir
Unknown: Scott the Jew here at
the nuptials, the celebration of
the wedding of Kyle, the spook
from Spokane, and Jen with a G,
these two have both found their
last best spouse, and unlike
their first marriages, this
wedding was no cheap fake
in the morning. Here's your
spook from Spokane, celebrating
the Daming and the knighting of
Jen with a G and the spook of
Spokane. We couldn't be happier.
In fact, we're just gonna go
stay in the castle tonight,
because I just locked down the
total keeper, smoking hot wife
material all the way. I love
you, Jen.
I am Brian. Also spook.
Congratulations to spook of
Spokane and Jen with the G love
you guys so excited. You're no
Jenning together. Stay. Stand
together and live a life
together, ride all the trails
and find the powder turns baby.
This
is Jen with the gene. We're
gonna prove better than anybody
else in the whole world, than
those who know agenda together,
stand together and in honor of
our Daming. And today, we are
gonna stay in a castle, and we
will send pictures.
So raise your glasses as high as
you can, and let's toast Kyle
and Jen May your love continue
to grow on every trail. May
every day together be a powder
day, and may Uber Kyle with
Jenna the G away into the sunset
forever.
Adam Curry: That's the kind of
fun you want to be at. I'm
telling you, these meetups are
off the hook, and sometimes
they're in historical places,
like the monument to the
forefathers in Plymouth. In the
morning.
Unknown: This is Hey citizen at
the Adam and Tino we're here
meetup.
Dame de Lorian
was here. Mr. Spencer Wolf,
Kansas City. We're here in
beautiful Plymouth. It's right
on the water
in the morning. This is kanjin,
happy birthday, Adam.
I'm John Winston. Hi, John and
Adam. This is who I am. In the
morning, I am, coincidentally,
visiting the monuments today.
And then I hear no agenda, that
there's a meet up up here. So I
stop by and say hi in the
morning. In the morning. In the
morning,
Adam Curry: very nice. There's a
couple of meetups taking place.
In fact, today, the 805 rooftop
Meetup is underway at Goleta HGI
rooftop in Goleta, California.
The northern wake public slave
gathering kicks off at six at
happy endings in Raleigh, North
Carolina. Get on and get in the
car, go and visit them. The
Denver back to the bar. Meet up
830 tonight at Lincoln's
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado,
tomorrow. The Go pack go at HQ.
630 at headquarters bar in
Oregon, Wisconsin on Saturday.
The tiny amygdala, amygdalay of
Anchorage rain dance. That's two
o'clock in the afternoon. This
is an Anchorage Alaska at sir
Lane's house, so you need to
RSVP, do a quick if you want to
go there for Saturday, the real
Fox Valley number four. 330 at
two brothers Roadhouse in
Aurora, Illinois. That is the
Chirac central meetup locale on
Sunday, the the annual, the
monthly in the NA tribal
September Shindig. 330 at
prodigy Burger Bar,
Indianapolis, Indiana, Marco
Marie of the Greenwood, of
course, organizing that as
always and on Sunday as well the
too many eggs.com. Meet up. 333
at yasho Jamaica grill in Keene,
New Hampshire. Many more to
find, many more to see, many
more to take part in. And a
reminder, October 18 is a
Fredericksburg Texas meetup. I'm
very excited about that we will
be attending. But every single
meetup has people you've heard
of before on the show you've
heard them in the meetup reports
maybe that you recognize them as
nights and days, people come
out, wear their rings, and you
all get together, and there's
never, ever been a fight, never
been any kind of bad vibes at a
no agenda. Meet up, because
connection brings protection, no
agenda. Meetups.com. If you
can't find one near you, start
one yourself. Always guaranteed
a party.
Unknown: Sometimes you wanna go
hang out with all the nights and
days you wanna be a hell lame
gonna be where everybody feels
the same. It's like a
Adam Curry: party. Always a
party, Party Party Party Party.
It's a good party. I have, let
me see, I have two ISOs. We'd
like to pick them before we end
the show, and this will be our
end of show, ISO. I have, do you
have any ISOs at all?
John C Dvorak: I have one. Okay,
well,
Adam Curry: let's see. I'm
looking for it. Oh, here it is.
Okay. I'm gonna play yours.
Unknown: I don't like
mosquitoes,
Adam Curry: not bad, but I have
this one, sir,
Unknown: pick a hole.
Mm hmm.
Oh,
John C Dvorak: just gross. Or
Adam Curry: this one, hey, that
actually wasn't so bad.
John C Dvorak: I like that one.
I
Adam Curry: thought you'd like
that one. I liked it too. All
right, everybody, end of the
show. That means it's time for
the famous Tip of the day,
Unknown: green fast for you and
me. You and me, just a tip with
JCD
and sometimes Adam, we
Adam Curry: are very excited as
always, to hear about John's Tip
of the Day. What do you have for
us? John, okay,
John C Dvorak: and this is a
call back to the About two weeks
ago I talked about a foaming
device you could put in your
hose, and you can also buy more
expensive ones for your pressure
washer. This was,
Adam Curry: this was to foam up
your car. Lot of people were
happy, including me. I like this
foaming tip. Well,
John C Dvorak: here's the follow
up to it, which is, and this is,
Mimi turned me on to this stuff.
Now I had washed my car a few.
Days before that tip, and this
is like two weeks ago, for two
and a half weeks at least, my
car, and I've washed it before.
I haven't washed. I washed. I do
that. Not one speck of dust or
dirt has stuck to the car for
I've never seen anything like
this for two and a half weeks
and it, and I have to credit it.
To wait a minute. Did
Adam Curry: it wash the wax off?
John C Dvorak: No, the white.
No. It's shiny. Or shiny. I have
a I have a ceramic coated car.
But and as shiny as can be, it's
unbelievable, and it's all due
to this product, which Mimi
says, you know, you got to start
looking at these guys. It's
called Chemical Guys. Chemical
Guys, and the one I used in this
case was the watermelon snow
foam auto wash, pH neutral. It
was foaming agents, and it's got
the list of ingredients. Is
outrageous, but there's
obviously something in here.
These guys know what they're
doing for a washing products and
cleaning products. And you can
they are available on Amazon,
but they're all over the place.
But the company is Chemical
Guys, and I would recommend
looking at what they they're
making. They obviously are
chemists that are high order
chemists that know what they're
doing. And do you think they
have a product? No idea how.
Sorry, well, do
Adam Curry: you think they have
a product that can clean metal
roofs, like the kind we have in
Texas, that
John C Dvorak: gets, I think if
you got a hold of you could
Adam Curry: ask got all the tree
sap on it. It's a dusk,
John C Dvorak: quite possible.
They do. They have a they guy
was going over the products with
the Jay, was looking at this
stuff too, and I and it has
stuff on it, like it has some
chemicals in here that are kind
of interesting, including
benzene. Oh, okay, for a car
wash is very unusual, but it
does take off. The benzene
itself will take off. What
you're bitching about, it's not
a healthy item. Benzene is,
don't drink it. Wash your car.
You know, I'm not drinking this
stuff. I'm sure if you drank
this, this wash, you would be
dead in in minutes. But I'm
telling you, it's I'm still
stunned the car at this point. I
don't know how that mood there'd
be months before I have to wash
the car again. There's something
in here. They're doing. They're
doing something special. And so
the company's Chemical Guys look
for their products.
Adam Curry: Check your local
legislation, for products that
may be banned in your state.
There it is another great tip in
the middle,
Unknown: guys, show us your
tips. I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry I got
startled by that jingle. Thank
you. Keep the tips coming. We
show your tips every single
show. We do it for you. That's
right. And that concludes your
no agenda show in its 16th year.
Episode 1692 we do have some end
of show mixes. We got Leo le
puke with a classic. We have a
David kecta bringing us the
backbeat, and Professor Jay
Jones returns from China with
with another one of his mixes.
This time, it's about joy. So
you know that's going to be good
coming up right after the no
agenda show on the stream. If
you're listening to listening to
us@trollroom.ao or on the modern
podcast app, we have the mere
mortals book review. Oh, that's
Kyron from Australia. He'll be
see he's reviewing. It's helpful
to question everything, the
problems of philosophy. Well,
that'll keep you awake. Love
Kyron. And I am coming to you
from the cruise ship capital of
Mexico, right here, a little bit
north of Puerta Vallarta in the
morning. Everybody. I'm Adam
curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I'm not on
the run in Mexico. I'm John C
Dvorak. Remember
Adam Curry: us at no agenda,
donations.com, we'll see on
Sunday, I'll still be here till
then, adios, mofos, a hooey,
hooey and such.
Unknown: I'm talking about
dishwashers. I'm talking about
dishwashers, sinks, toilets,
sinks, toilets and showers. You
don't get any water. Try going
and buying the new faucet. You
turn it on, no water comes out.
We won't talk about toilets, but
how about the shower? I have
this beautiful head of hair. I
need a lot of water. You turn on
the water, drip, drip, drip,
drop. It's a very unpleasant
experience. You areas Trump,
situation where we're looking
very slowly at sinks and showers
and other elements and
bathrooms. I'm talking about
dishwashers, sinks, toilets.
Since people are flushing
bullets 10 times, 15 times,
why does the Vice President have
what sounds like a Southern
accent?
No, I knew what you're talking
about. Well, she was talking
about
unions in Detroit, one
tone of voice, five southern I
mean, do you
take Americans seriously? Think
that this is an important
question. They care you want.
They care about, they care about
the economy. The
Biden administration taking a
series of actions to target what
they allege are attempts by
Russian backed actors to
manipulate public opinion here
in the US
ahead of the presidential
election,
according to two senior US
officials joining us, NBC, Ken
dilang and Ken, what more have
we learned? Jose, this is being
described by our sources as a
whole of government action
designed to target Russian
propaganda and disinformation
aimed at interfering in the 2024
election. It is set to include
sanctions by the Treasury
Department, law enforcement
action by the Justice
Department, and one of the
focuses on RT, formerly known as
Russia today,
Adam Curry: in her infinite
wisdom, to do her bit for the
party, NPR has appointed a joy
czar.
Unknown: No, yes,
Adam Curry: that's right. I love
that black joy. There's only two
types of vibes man.
Unknown: One is hope and joy.
Most elections are vibes
elections.
Adam Curry: Who wants to be the
joy czar? No, hands go up.
John C Dvorak: Is it joy? Behar,
Unknown: the politics of joy
vibes election that we're all
feeling right now. Talk about
Adam Curry: your disinformation.
Ratchet up our joy quotients.
Unknown: Joy czar, yes,
it already felt like a vibe
selection before.
Adam Curry: No one wants to hear
that insinuating he had sex with
his couch.
John C Dvorak: I like that
piece.
Adam Curry: We have the joy
department, Joy Division. That
should be a donation.
Unknown: JD Vance said,
uplifting stories.
Adam Curry: He hates women.
Unknown: Vibes, man vibes.
John C Dvorak: It was pathetic
politics
Adam Curry: of joy and your joy
quotient for the party.
Unknown: Isn't that a Nazi
thing. Most selections provide
selections because it
John C Dvorak: took them two
days to edit it down.
Adam Curry: Black joy on screen.
Live Joy Division, Nazis. A lot
of corn, sweat stuff. Stating
your policy is a very dumb move.
Ratchet up our joy quotient,
Unknown: distraction.org/n.
A, hey, that actually wasn't so
bad. You.