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September 8th, 2024 • 3h 20m

1693: Freedom Force

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John C Dvorak: Wow. Pre crime.
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Unknown: Adam curry.
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Chelsea Dvorak, Sunday,
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Adam Curry: September 8, 2024 this is your award winning give
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our nation media assassination Episode 1693
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Unknown: this is no agenda, countering
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Adam Curry: Canadian disinformation and broadcasting
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live from the cruise ship, capital of Mexico, just north of
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Puerto Rita in the morning. Everybody. I'm Adam curry and
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where the NFL
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season has begun, and it's more gay than ever. I'm John C
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Dvorak. Buzzkill,
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Adam Curry: wait a minute, wasn't the first game in Brazil
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John C Dvorak: that was on Friday? Yeah. Oh. Was
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Adam Curry: that the first game of the season? And why was the
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first
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John C Dvorak: game? Was the night before. Was Thursday. Oh,
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it was the chiefs. And you said beating up on the Ravens. You
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said
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Adam Curry: it was more gay than ever.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, one of the quarterbacks of one of the teams
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that they talk a lot about is wearing a red fingernail polish.
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I don't know what that means, but it just seems a little
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Adam Curry: unusual. Well, I can tell they are. They're
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alienating their core audience.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I don't think so. Everyone's got to be
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open,
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Adam Curry: yeah, especially the opening of the show. All right,
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hey, we are a value for value podcast. That means that we give
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you this show completely free, open, no pay walls, no hurdles,
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no levels, no no mandatory subscription, no premium content
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behind the firewall,
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John C Dvorak: it's all premium. No mugs for sale.
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Adam Curry: Although I have started calling what we're doing
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mug club media. It's mug club media, everybody. I'm looking
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for a word that's the opposite of mass media, and it's value
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for value based. And the best I could come up with is mug club
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media. I don't think it works.
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John C Dvorak: It's no good. It's
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Unknown: no good.
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Adam Curry: Well, unlike Lex Friedman, you know, the start of
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his interview with Trump, he had nine minutes of ads at the top
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of the show.
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John C Dvorak: You know, if I was him, I would do the same
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thing.
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Adam Curry: But if you were an advertiser, you'd probably be
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upset. No one was because they
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John C Dvorak: jammed them all together, and it was just they
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got weaker and weaker in terms of their impact. Is that what
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you're saying?
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Adam Curry: No, I'm saying that that's what the fast forward
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button is for. No one's gonna listen to those ads. Everyone
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John C Dvorak: goes, yeah, there's that. That's a fact,
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yeah.
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Adam Curry: So I don't know. We also are not getting any tenant
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media money, which, by the way, I've done a little bit of race.
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What tenant Media Go? Know It? Yes, you do. That's the, that's
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the whole pool boy and Reuben and that whole outfit.
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John C Dvorak: No, the Russian money. Yeah, well,
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Adam Curry: I'm calling it tenant media money. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: confused.
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Adam Curry: I've delved into this now. Oh
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John C Dvorak: yeah, numbers, you say, you know, maybe, maybe
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we just said a little more things. Pro Russian, hello.
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Adam Curry: Hello, Comrade Dvorak. How are you doing this
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morning?
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John C Dvorak: Or, I'm sorry, net, so I think so I
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Adam Curry: figured out what was happening, what a Canar this
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was, and I say Canar with a reason. So what happened here is
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this tenant media is Lauren Chen, or whatever her name is,
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and her husband, their plan, I figured out their plan. Their
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plan was to build their own YouTube channel into a
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powerhouse. Exactly. Yeah, building a powerhouse. And of
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course, they did this with the Russian money. They knew exactly
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what they were doing, and so they figured, well, we'll give,
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we'll give these guys, you know, this team over here, as far as
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we know, only
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John C Dvorak: I should stop you and mention that for people that
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you to get a background on this, which we're not obviously giving
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you at this point, go to the last show and listen to it,
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because we have a rather elaborate discussion of this
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particular thing. So you may have to listen to,
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Adam Curry: I think most people kind of know what's going on.
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Maybe,
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John C Dvorak: geez, I'm just mentioning that. Okay,
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Adam Curry: all right? Well, stop now and go back and listen
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to the last episode. And how come you missed it anyway. So
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the plan, the plan was to because, you know, there's a lot
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of people out there saying, oh, pool board taking just some
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great memes. They've got, they've got Tim pool instead of
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a beanie on his head. He's got one of those Russian hats, furry
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hats. They've got a cat. Yeah, they've got him on, you know,
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Putin Nate with a bear, bare chest on the horse. They've got
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little Tim there in front of him, bare chested on the horse.
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Really funny meme, yeah,
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John C Dvorak: you're asking for trouble, but it's who me. No,
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him. Oh, yeah. Well. Or anybody who take, take a bunch of
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Russian money, do some promotional Russian material.
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Even though you might not know it, you're asking for trouble.
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It's just the way it is. I don't
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Adam Curry: think he really knew. I mean, of course, all
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right, I guess it was some Belgian guy. But the plan this,
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this is what I'm getting to the plan was for them to, you know,
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license some, some hot content, by the way, no agenda show
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anybody. They could have licensed it from us, and with
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that, to build up this channel, which really only had a couple
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1000 subscribers, because, you know, little do they understand
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of how YouTube works. So it was, yeah, you have to fake it. Yeah,
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it was really this channel. You have to
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John C Dvorak: get some you have to get some kid in there, who
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knows what he's doing to jack up the numbers. Exactly. You
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remember 1220, 12.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, Coney, 2012 exactly,
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John C Dvorak: those numbers are fake.
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Adam Curry: So, so that failed, but, but, you know, as I look a
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little bit further into the story this whole thing, it's
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Canadians who are doing this. This is Canadian disinformation.
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This is not from Russia. We should be putting sanctions in
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place against Canada. The Canadian
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Unknown: owned social media channel that the US Justice
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Department alleges as a key part of a Russian influence scheme is
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now off YouTube. YouTube said tenant media violated its
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community guidelines. Tenant media was founded by Canadian
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Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan. Last year, YouTube
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is also taking down four separate media channels owned by
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Chen. Chen is a right wing commentator with posts
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supporting Donald Trump and siding with Russia over the war
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in Ukraine. US Department of Justice, indictment doesn't name
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Chen or her husband, and they don't face charges. But as the
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CBC Evan Dyer tells us, tenant is allegedly central to a
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Kremlin scheme to use millions of dollars to influence American
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public opinion and the US presidential election. A
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US federal indictment says those opinions were bought and paid
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for by the Kremlin, which funneled ten million in part
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through roaming millennial, a Quebec company belonging to
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Canadian influencer Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan,
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who then used her Tennessee company tenant media to pay Maga
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influencers like Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, Tim pool and
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Canadian Lauren southern to spread the Kremlin's pro Trump,
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anti Ukraine messages.
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We have not seen an adversary attempt to influence an American
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election to this degree
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before this former
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FBI Director of counterintelligence says the
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Russian president will be infuriated to see this operation
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rolled up.
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The message the US government is sending with these indictments
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is we see you. We're on to you, and we're going to call this
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out. The charging documents make it quite clear that they knew
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who they were dealing with. So
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far, though, the FBI has charged only Russians, not the
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Canadians, and Americans charge
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Adam Curry: the Canadians. This is horse crap.
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John C Dvorak: What Russia's did they charge? And how would they
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know? Well, that's the it's the this is a very dubious
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situation.
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Adam Curry: The Russians they charge are the ones who were
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sending the money to the Canadians. This is Russia and
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Canada colluding to interfere with our elections. And I want a
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wall stop these Canadians
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John C Dvorak: this? Well, you're, you're, I think you're
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correct in the, in the in your being irked by the fact that the
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Canadians are seemingly getting off scot free when it comes to
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who's really behind this, whose idea was it? Was it the
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Canadians to begin with? It sounds like it.
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Adam Curry: It sounds like it to me. And I think there should be
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sanctions. Throw them off. Swift,
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Unknown: let's get rid of him.
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John C Dvorak: Let's throw the cannon off. Swift.
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Adam Curry: So Tucker is on the road with his show, which is
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quite entertaining. I might say it's basically the vote for
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Donald Trump show, but with interesting guests, and he had
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Vivek, whoever he was, he's man we, I wish we could do it. He's
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got, like, 1000s of people in these arenas and the just, he
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just sits down with a guest and like, boom, done. Buy some
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merch. See you later. What a gig, what a gig. Is good.
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John C Dvorak: It's good up to it.
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Adam Curry: I'm happy. Yeah, no, I'm happy for him. So this comes
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up on, on this, I guess you call it a show with Vivek, but
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Unknown: this idea of Russian election interference in
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particular, let's trace the history of that in each of the
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last two elections. Let's go to 2016 the allegation of Russian
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election interference to support Donald Trump. When you double
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click on that, look at what was the actual foreign election
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interference there. It was actually US election
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interference in the US election through the Steele dossier, but
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laundered through the narrative of actual Russian interference.
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And actually there was a Russian intermediary to perpetuate that
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attempt at election interference about Trump's Russia collusion
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hoax. That's in 2016 Right now we get to 2020. Again, domestic
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election interference is the systematic suppression of the
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Hunter Biden laptop story that didn't happen by Russian
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companies. Didn't happen by the Russian government. It happened
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by us social media companies acting out the direction
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Canadian deep state actors in the US government that
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suppressed probably a story whose suppression changed the
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outcome of the 2020 presidential election. But again, what did
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they say?
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They said, No, no, this
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was Russian disinformation, sure. So now you're seeing a
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pattern in 2016
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John C Dvorak: there's domestic Yes, are you telling me people
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actually paid money to go into a big auditorium to listen to
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this?
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Unknown: Oh yeah, they love it.
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John C Dvorak: I hear it on TV for free.
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Adam Curry: People like live entertainment people,
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Unknown: oh, oh, I'm
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John C Dvorak: sorry you're categorizing this lecture as
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entertainment. Okay, so now
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Unknown: you're seeing a pattern. In 2016 there's
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domestic attempts at election interference, but they run it
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through a Russian smoke screen in 2020 there's domestic
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election interference, but they run it through a Russian smoke
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screen. So this time around, when I see Merrick Garland in
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the Department of Justice sitting under the Biden
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administration, suddenly alleging election interference
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by the Russians, I have any facts other than to say, my
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radar goes off and says, I want to know where that election
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interference is actually beginning,
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Adam Curry: Canada. So these two
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John C Dvorak: big laughs I'm not hearing, you know, funny,
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you
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Adam Curry: know, I've watched a couple of these. And the here's
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the mistake he's making. They do not have good crowd microphones.
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They did. The crowd is not, well, miked. I
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John C Dvorak: heard Mike, yeah, this is common. It's, it's, it's
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Adam Curry: a shame. It's
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John C Dvorak: a church. I've seen it. I've seen it. I was in
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a situation once where the crowd wasn't Mike properly, yeah. And
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I was always hilarious, by the way, yeah. And then you watch, I
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watched the thing as they streamed it, and it was, there
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was no reaction. Look like an idiot up there making jokes with
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no response whatsoever.
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Adam Curry: No, you look like a dud. I know it's so typical for
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these because, you know, I used to do concerts that were for,
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you know, concerts with big audience, and then it would also
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be broadcast on television back in Holland, and we would always
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focus the crew. It's not, you know, you're doing stuff, yes,
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make the house sound good, but the lights are also TV lights,
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and the sound is also TV sound you have to focus on they missed
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it on this. Anyway, I want to
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John C Dvorak: mention we did have a producer that went to one
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of these events, RFK Jr showed up as a special guest, and he
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thought it was entertaining, but it was only filled a 14,000 seat
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arena with 12 by 1210, to 12,000 so
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Adam Curry: only, only 12,000
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John C Dvorak: Well, only 12,000 Yeah, with divide 18 to 10 bucks
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they had, that's what it's good money,
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Adam Curry: yeah. And then you get drinks. You get merch.
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John C Dvorak: Parking. Merch is probably where they get a
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Adam Curry: piece of parking. You get a piece of the parking.
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You can have VIP parking. So unfortunately, and there's a
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second follow clip here, they miss what we saw as obvious, a
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lot
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Unknown: of those allegations that they were somehow helping
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Trump. I actually got curious. Actually, you could make strong
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arguments that a lot of these posts or whatever actually
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weren't helping Trump at all, but the fact that they called
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that Russian election interference again, just
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suggests to me that this may be part of a pattern of what we saw
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in 2016 and 2020 so I don't really buy what they're selling
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on this. Wow. I think it's just not a super clever group,
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right? I think that.
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I think the problem is they are actually a super clever group.
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Oh, I think that this is just the beginning of a volley. So
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this one's not gonna land. I think the public Fool me once.
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Fool me twice. The reality is, I think there's some gonna be some
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weird things that happen here in the next two months. I think
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they're gonna be some depending what happens in the debate. So
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I'm going to the debate next week in Philadelphia. It's gonna
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be Tuesday. Going to be probably a Donald Trump demo, demolition,
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destruction of the other side. But don't share too much, right?
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Because I was at the last one, and that's actually, in some
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ways, was a trap. It was obviously a trap. But they
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scheduled the earliest ever presidential debate in US
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history. Why did they do that? It was obvious. It was that they
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wanted to test Biden as a final trial balloon, and they got a
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free option because if he did great, great, they turned the
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race upside down. But if Biden did as poorly as he did, they
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swapped him out. It was something unthinkable that
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became the obvious. So I think if we have another debate
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smackdown on Tuesday, as I if I was a betting man, I'd predict
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that's what we're about to have. I also would predict we're going
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to have some very strange things that happen on the back of that
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as well. See, I,
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Adam Curry: I think they missed it. Our analysis was, it was so
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clear to us, this is about Ukraine, or, as we say, Ukraine,
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you know it's like. No, I don't think you're getting this right.
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John C Dvorak: No, I would list all the analysis of this, of
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this Russian stuff, and it was all and they left out. They left
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out a lot. They always left something out. We caught it all.
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No, you're it was about Ukraine. It had nothing to do
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Adam Curry: at all. We can't be saying Ukraine. We have to say
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well, you just said it, no, but, but no, that's, um, that's like
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saying Gaza. You know, this is, for some reason, all the in
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crowd, which is not us, is saying Ukraine, but you just
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said it. I said Ukraine or Ukraine? And I said Ukraine,
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yeah, but you got, but we, I was accentuating a point that we
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don't say these things. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: okay, well, Ukraine, Ukraine, yeah, yes,
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that's exactly right, but that's not going to be picked up,
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because that's not where the narrative is going to head. And
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while all this is taking place, by the way, I think we should
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start stop right here. And I think it's time to create a
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pool, oh, a betting pool on where is because Vivek is
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obviously an operative. Where is he going to end up? In the in
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the Trump administration? Ambassador, he's going to get a
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job. Ambassador, he's
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Adam Curry: getting an ambassadorship to India. You
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think just ship him off.
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John C Dvorak: That's probably the best thing to do. Great
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Adam Curry: job. Yeah, you need to ship them off to one of the
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bricks countries. So India would be perfect. Let them go sit
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there. I think that'd be good. Yeah, and you can, yeah. I
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think, I think that's where I put my money in the pool India
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ambassadorship. Good to go. So meanwhile, while everyone is
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running around talking about Russian disinformation that came
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from Canada, all the military industrial complex came together
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in Ramstein, the Ramstein Air Base.
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John C Dvorak: It's a Dirac group, isn't it? Yeah,
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Adam Curry: yeah. It's also an army base in Germany. And
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everybody was there, and all the money was there. Everyone was
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good to go, and we brought a big check. The
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Unknown: Arrival appeared awkward, even if it was among
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friends. Vladimir Zelinsky arriving at a meeting of defense
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ministers from Allied countries, including the US, UK and hosts
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Germany. He, like his country, soldiers once on a mission to
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ensure Ukraine's partners were following through on promises to
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help it win its war with Russia
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a shortage of missiles and cooperation. This applies even
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to our territory, which is occupied by Russia, including
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Crimea. We think it is wrong that there are such steps we
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need to have this long range capability, not only on the
17:43
occupied territory of Ukraine, but also under Russia.
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Zelinsky is frustrated that allies still haven't permitted
17:50
Kyiv to hit Russia inside its own borders using Western long
17:53
range missiles. He believes this is a key way to put pressure on
17:57
Moscow to end its two and a half year war on Ukraine. But
18:00
speaking after the meeting US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,
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appear to indicate that Washington did not believe long
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range capabilities would turn the tide of the war.
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We had this discussion about about other capabilities, and
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each time we point out that it's not just one thing, it's a
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combination of capabilities and how you integrate those
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capabilities to achieve objectives.
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Early on Friday, the US said it would be providing an additional
18:28
$250 million in assistance, while the UK and Germany also
18:32
said they were providing equipment, including short range
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missiles and how it says Ukraine says it desperately needs to
18:38
bolster its defenses. So
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Adam Curry: of course, we're not going to give him long range
18:43
weapons, because that could potentially could do one of two
18:46
things. Could start world war three, minor issue, but it would
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possibly end something, and they don't want that. Keep burning
18:54
stuff on that border, keep blowing stuff up, be doing a
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good job. And who else was there. Who else was in in
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Ramstein, doing, I swear to God, doing Instagram reels with
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Zelensky. Lindsey Graham,
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Unknown: I'm here with President Zelensky. I
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am such a
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admirer of what you and your country have done. What kind of
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stop the Russians so we don't have to fight them. They don't
19:21
want any American troops.
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Adam Curry: You're going to stop the Russians so we don't have to
19:24
fight them. You dope.
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Unknown: Trying to stop the Russians so we don't have to
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fight them. They don't want any American troops. They just need
19:30
the weapons to free their country. Yeah, yeah. We
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Adam Curry: don't want American troops on the ground kill your
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own people.
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Unknown: Terrible invasion that they're sitting on.
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John C Dvorak: So funny. Oh, it gets better. It
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Adam Curry: gets better. He does a classic here, it gets better.
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Unknown: Terrible invasion. They're sitting on trillion
19:47
dollars worth of minerals that could be good to our economy,
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helping our friends in Ukraine. We can win this later. Help.
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Yes, we need, and we have already the biggest help. Is the
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support of American people and support of our friends. Thanks
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to Lindsey and his colleagues, to congressmen and centers from
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the United States, thanks for this support, bipartisan
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support. Thank you so much.
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Peace is coming. Yes,
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Adam Curry: peace is coming right after we so I don't know
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if Zelensky is he must be in on the game, because no way is he
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gonna get any of the $26 trillion worth of minerals that
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are in Ukraine's land. No way you said it again. I'm doing on
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purpose now. And this is this. Lindsey Graham has been saying
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this, but no one ever calls him out on it or says this is the
20:44
real reason for this war. They're
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Unknown: sitting on 10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in
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Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of
20:53
Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to
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Putin to share with China or to Ukraine. If we help Ukraine now,
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they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed
21:04
of. Sign here that 10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral
21:08
assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin
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and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let's
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help them win a war we can't afford to lose. Let's find a
21:21
solution to this war. But they're sitting on a gold mine,
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Adam Curry: yeah, and this was months ago that he said this. So
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it's like this, so obvious what is going on. They've already
21:31
given away all of the the bread basket of Europe to the big, you
21:37
know, Monsanto and Cargill, and not Montana Cargill, and who are
21:41
the other guys who did the big, uh, big, AG, Tyson. Probably
21:46
think Tyson, so Tyson's
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John C Dvorak: on this deal well, but yeah, I'd rather have
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the Russians. I hit the you know, we're not getting paid
21:55
Russian money, but I'm going to say it not yet. You're working
21:58
on it. I can hear you. I see what the Russians should have
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them, let them do it, because the one thing I've noticed about
22:04
them is they're not gougers. When they're given all the gas
22:08
and they're pumping it all into Europe, and everyone said all
22:10
the way to go, we're gonna depend in on it, they're not.
22:13
They're never gouged anybody. They just let they just let it.
22:16
They take a look at it, take a small profit, and then they dump
22:19
it out there. And, you know, the gougers are, are looking for
22:24
that, that the wheat fields, and the gougers are looking for the
22:28
minerals
22:29
Adam Curry: the gougers are starving Africans with, with the
22:33
wheat and the grain, yeah,
22:38
John C Dvorak: that is, that is the negative side of capitalism.
22:42
So
22:42
Adam Curry: this brings me to a boots on the ground from one of
22:44
our producers in Russia who says, I love your show. I'm an
22:49
American currently studying
22:51
John C Dvorak: American in Russia. Yes, we need to get
22:53
Russians. You know, I want to stop right here and mention that
22:56
people that are listening to show that are in I know it's, I
23:01
know in Spain, they listen to the show. And I visit with a few
23:04
of them once, and they said, Well, the great thing about the
23:07
show is you guys speak clearly, and it's good for us to practice
23:10
our English. All world listeners out there should pass it along
23:15
to other people that are in the community, Russia and elsewhere,
23:20
listen to this show so you can practice your English. And
23:23
Adam Curry: we have transcripts in the modern podcast app so you
23:25
can read along and learn unbelievable and learn and learn
23:29
how to spell Dvorak,
23:31
John C Dvorak: John. See, John, see,
23:33
Adam Curry: love your show on American currently studying in
23:36
Russia because it's cheap. Just wanted to tell you that I've
23:39
observed what I have observed here in Russia regarding the
23:42
Russia, Russo Ukrainian war, I think, and do believe, that
23:46
there will never be a demilitarized zone in Russia, at
23:49
least maybe inside of Ukraine, the Kursk region will not be
23:52
part of a demilitarized zone. John touched on something I
23:55
think is true. In 1943 the Germans attacked the Kursk
23:59
salient and set up and to set up a trap. I think the Russians set
24:04
the same trap in the Kursk Region this time, as well as
24:07
there was nothing but green. This is a student. There's
24:10
nothing but green conscript guarding the border. A little
24:13
like October 7. Ah, the total number of troops crossing the
24:17
border at first was 1000 once they got inside Russia, the
24:21
Ukrainians put another 11,000 troops into the region. As of
24:24
now, the casualty numbers for the Ukrainians could be as high
24:28
as 6000 out of a total of 12,000 initial troop count. But of
24:32
course, you know that's not reported. Also, the Ukrainians
24:36
not gambled and lost. Anybody report facts. Also, the
24:40
Ukrainians gambled and lost that Russia would pull the troops
24:43
from the entire eastern front to stop this incursion, which they
24:45
didn't. Ukrainians had to redeploy some of their forces
24:51
from Kursk to pro Kursk just to slow down the Russian advance.
24:55
John, you had a clip from YouTube channel, military
24:57
summary channel, I know you two are busy and blah, blah. Blah.
25:00
Finally, just let the dames knights and fellow producers
25:03
know that Russians are really friendly, caring, and they have
25:05
a great sense of dark humor. They hold hands and hug, that's
25:08
for sure. They hold hands and hug while drinking overpriced
25:12
coffee, talking about how crappy their pop music is. And did you
25:15
see that latest internet meme? They could be Americans of the
25:19
eastern hemisphere, which is maybe why our governments are at
25:22
each other's throats sometimes. Also, I can still get Coke and
25:24
Pepsi here. McDonald's and KFC just renamed themselves to Tasty
25:29
period and rustics. Well, tasty period.
25:33
John C Dvorak: Nicey period. What
25:35
Adam Curry: kind, what kind of franchise marketing is that?
25:39
John C Dvorak: Oh no, but it doesn't sound right, while
25:41
Burger
25:41
Adam Curry: King hasn't even taken down their signs and are
25:44
still open for business in my city's biggest Molly even found
25:48
a can of a and W Root Beer from America. How do I know it's from
25:52
America? Ingredients in English, and second ingredient was high
25:55
fructose corn syrup. Well, how about that? That should be isn't
26:00
that illegal? Aren't they? Aren't they breaking sanctions
26:03
by still operating in Russia?
26:06
John C Dvorak: Oh, they use middlemen in some sort of a
26:09
legal way. Let's face it, there's a work it's called a
26:12
workaround. And one of the things Americans are good at is
26:16
workarounds. We're good at that. You find them, we work them out,
26:20
reach around, that's different. We're good. We're always mixing
26:24
these things. I'm
26:24
Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry. No
26:26
John C Dvorak: wonder you keep screwing up.
26:28
Adam Curry: So there was a so now we have a report, I think
26:31
France 24 it was maybe Deutsche villa, and they bring in a
26:35
military industrial complex shield, which the whole thing
26:39
was all mic, Ukraine
26:40
Unknown: says it is concerned by foreign media reports that Iran
26:44
has delivered short range ballistic missiles to Russia.
26:47
Moscow, they hear the Iran meme coming in now stepped up missile
26:51
and drone attacks in recent days, stretching Ukraine's air
26:55
defenses. Kief and its allies have previously accused Iran of
27:00
supplying ahead drones to Russia, but Iran denies playing,
27:04
supplying any weapons used to attack Ukraine.
27:08
Adam Curry: Let's bring in the shell well. So the story is,
27:12
What? What? What?
27:14
John C Dvorak: What? Why are they making this disassertion?
27:17
What? What difference does it make? Well, here
27:18
Adam Curry: comes the the shield to tell us why,
27:20
Unknown: and we are now joined by Mark. Can see in a former
27:23
colonel in the US military and now the Center for Strategic and
27:27
International Studies in Washington, Colonel, Russia,
27:31
need Iranian missiles. Does it not have enough of its own?
27:35
Well, it does
27:36
not have enough on its on its own. It has been producing
27:40
ballistic missiles all along, often with parts smuggled in
27:45
from global sources. But those haven't been enough to
27:50
accomplish the ends that they're trying to accomplish, for
27:52
example, attacking Ukrainian infrastructure, electricity, for
27:56
example. So they brought in ballistic missiles from North
27:59
Korea, and now they're proposing to bring in the ballistic
28:02
missiles from Iran. It's important to keep in mind that
28:05
Iran has been supplying Russia with missiles all along. 136 is
28:11
that we just heard about. Iran has been sending for about a
28:15
year. And in fact, they've set up a plant in the in Russia to
28:19
produce these missiles, these kamikaze drones, the ballistic
28:24
missiles, is a step up in support, but not fundamentally a
28:30
change in policy.
28:31
Adam Curry: Okay, so they're just bringing Iran into it for
28:33
whatever reason. We can kind of guess why. And if you heard at
28:38
the beginning of the well, of course, they want war with Iran,
28:42
anything more military industrial complex, finance?
28:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a bit of that, but it this whole
28:50
story that makes no logical sense. One thing they claim is
28:55
basically, the Russians are losers. They can't even make
28:58
their own damn missiles. Well,
28:59
Adam Curry: where does it come from? At the beginning of the
29:01
report you heard, according to reports? Well, where did it come
29:05
from? It came from the chiefs of MI six and CIA themselves, who
29:11
appeared at a Financial Times conference just before the
29:17
Ramstein conference,
29:19
Unknown: stepping out from the shadows for the first time
29:22
together a united front in an era of division and danger, such
29:27
as claims that Iran has supplied Russia with ballistic missiles
29:32
for its war in Ukraine. Should
29:35
Iran ship ballistic missiles of whatever kind, close range or
29:39
other kinds, it would be a dramatic escalation of the
29:43
nature of that Defense Partnership.
29:45
No confirmation that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a key
29:50
John C Dvorak: wait. So these are good clips, by the way.
29:53
Thank you. The assertion there's interesting cross purposes of.
30:00
Assertions. The first one was that, oh no, they're not doing
30:02
anything, but they're going to start doing it. Yeah. Oh yeah.
30:05
Which is which we've known since day one, that they've been and
30:09
we've seen pictures of the missiles. I've written, I I've
30:11
shown, yes, pictures of the factories in the newsletter. Six
30:15
months ago, took longer, maybe, of the factory in Iran, exactly
30:21
the model numbers and everything that were for all these drones.
30:24
We have all the data, all the information that missile lands
30:28
and doesn't blow up, and they can see, they take pictures of
30:31
it and put those in the newsletter. It's all been
30:34
documented, but now, all of a sudden, they haven't really been
30:37
doing any of that, but they're going to start to Are you
30:41
kidding me? They think that we're that stupid.
30:43
Adam Curry: Well please bear in mind, for the first time ever in
30:47
public together, it's the chief of the CIA burns and the chief
30:50
of MI six more who are telling us this. So now we can believe
30:55
it.
30:56
Unknown: Of the nature of that Defense Partnership.
30:58
No confirmation, but Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a key
31:02
focus for the spike East. They applaud a recent incursion by
31:07
keys in the opposite direction, with Ukrainian troops snatching
31:12
parts of Russian land.
31:15
It's typically audacious and bold on the part of the
31:20
Ukrainians,
31:21
oh, so bold, on the part of the Ukrainian, audacious,
31:25
to try and change the game in the way. And I think they have
31:29
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, you want to say something. No, I
31:32
John C Dvorak: was just saying, I was just listening to the man
31:34
talk about
31:36
Unknown: my Shrek, to try and change the game in the way. And
31:40
I think they have, to a degree, changed the narrative around us.
31:44
The Kursk offensive is a significant tactical achievement
31:50
boost and Ukrainian morale. It exposed some of the
31:53
vulnerabilities of Putin's Russia and of his military.
31:56
Despite
31:56
the blow, Vladimir Putin is still deemed to be looking
32:01
strong for now, I
32:03
don't see any evidence today that Putin's grip on power is is
32:07
weakening. He, he does one thing really well, and that's repress
32:12
people at home. Yeah,
32:13
I mean, I just don't ever confuse a tight grip with a
32:18
stable grip. So
32:20
Adam Curry: he all he does is oppress people at home with, I
32:24
don't know, Burger King, KFC, McDonald's, a and W Root Beer,
32:30
Pepsi's. And then what does he actually come out and say
32:33
Unknown: an endorsement made in jest speaking as a guest at a
32:37
forum in East Russia, Vladimir Putin candidly suggested that
32:40
Kamala Harris was his preferred candidate for November's US
32:43
presidential
32:45
election. She
32:46
has such an expressive and infectious laugh, it shows she's
32:49
doing well. I mean, Trump, he's imposed more restrictions and
32:55
sanctions on Russia than any President has ever imposed
32:58
before. And if Mrs. Harris is doing well, maybe she'll refrain
33:03
from doing something like that.
33:05
The comments were met with laughter by the audience, adding
33:10
to the modern theme of the remarks a common trend whenever
33:12
Putin has talked on social issues in the United States, the
33:16
Russian president had earlier this year backed outgoing
33:19
President Joe Biden over Trump claiming he was more
33:21
predictable. Trump for his path, said he was left feeling split
33:25
over Putin's latest comments. I
33:27
don't know exactly what to say about that. I don't know if I'm
33:30
insulted or he did me a favor.
33:33
The US National Security Council, meanwhile, called on
33:35
Putin to stop talking about American elections and to stop
33:38
interfering with them. Stop
33:39
Adam Curry: talking about us.
33:44
Unknown: This is great. It's like he's trolling while he
33:49
totally
33:49
John C Dvorak: while he is picked up a clue. Yeah, he is
33:53
trolling. In fact, I like to have somebody else translate
33:55
what he said, Because I skeptical. I bet this clip came
33:59
out some time back and then was skeptical about it's a
34:01
translation. Well, that's a good point, although this
34:04
translation, with the one I heard was a woman translator,
34:07
and this one was a male so this is slightly different. Well,
34:09
Adam Curry: the reason I picked this one is, is France 24 and
34:12
they had a much more coherent translate. The translation was
34:15
the same as the the Russian translator, the clip that we all
34:19
and
34:20
John C Dvorak: the thing, the thing that made me suspicious
34:22
about the clip was that when he talked about camel's infectious
34:26
laugh, or basically, or cackling, yeah, the audience
34:30
cracked up as as if they'd heard it. And I don't know why they
34:33
would. Well, they've heard her life. Why would they have heard
34:37
Camela cackling? Why would they have heard any of it? It's
34:40
really, it's, it's like some minor, uh, little, uh piccadillo
34:45
That saves some politician in Portugal might have, and if you
34:50
mentioned to an American audience, they'd all, they'd all
34:53
laugh about it when we would have no clue. You just didn't
34:56
make any sense to me that they'd heard her laugh.
34:59
Adam Curry: Come on. They're serious,
35:02
John C Dvorak: that a Russian national would have ever heard
35:05
anything Kamala Harris ever said.
35:08
Adam Curry: My I dispute that. I think that the Russians are all
35:11
over listening to what's going on with us. Why not?
35:17
John C Dvorak: I just don't see it. I don't see one thing, she's
35:20
never said anything important.
35:22
Adam Curry: I mean, that's the only thing, listen, that's the
35:24
only thing she's known for is that laugh.
35:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to us the
35:31
Adam Curry: world over, the Dutch are talking about it. I
35:33
see it in the Dutch press. So, I mean, not quite Russia, but not
35:38
far off. So I don't know. We'll look for it. I
35:44
John C Dvorak: just said it made me skeptical. I mean, I didn't
35:46
know that the Dutch were all aware of the stupid laugh, but
35:50
Adam Curry: everyone's aware of the stupid laugh.
35:53
John C Dvorak: Dispute that. Now you use the word dispute, so I
35:57
used it back. You
35:58
Adam Curry: can dispute it all you want. Now, will they know
36:01
that she, all of a sudden, starts talking Southern and
36:04
black? No, no, that I that I think they wouldn't know until
36:09
now without
36:11
Unknown: voter suppression. JC, Abrams would be the governor of
36:15
Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida. Imma, get
36:20
into some business now. Okay, you all helped us win in 2020
36:25
and we gonna do it again in 2024 What are you gonna do about it?
36:28
He does not walk it like he talks sick when we get this done
36:32
together, my friend, can I get a witness? You think you just fell
36:38
out of a coconut tree?
36:40
Best Rapper alive,
36:41
chouphop.
36:43
Are you kidding me?
36:44
I'm totally part of that whole listening generation of music.
36:52
Young men of color. Black men. Is not it's not just a
36:55
barbershop. We got these brothers out there. This one
36:57
brother was doing a lot of work space. We have to say, woke,
37:00
let's get a cease fire. There must be an immediate cease fire,
37:05
like everybody needs to be, woke to stay more woke than less.
37:09
Woke. Leave grandma's medical marijuana alone. You better.
37:14
Thank a union member. Thank a union member for sick. Leave,
37:19
you better. Thank a union member for paid leave, and I thank a
37:24
union member for vacation time. I also worked at McDonald's.
37:30
Adam Curry: There you go see the Russians. Didn't know about
37:34
that. They do now.
37:36
Unknown: Hello, Russia.
37:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, the one or two Russians that listen
37:41
to this show. They got to get more people listening.
37:43
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. Hit some Russians in the mouth. Not,
37:47
not a call for violence. Yeah, okay, well, I've opened the
37:52
show. Well,
37:54
John C Dvorak: I do have my all my totality of Ukraine. Eclipse
37:59
is from PBS. It's a 22 second clip was summarized. What was
38:04
you didn't even touch upon, but it did summarize the Ukraine war
38:09
for the last week, and you might as well play it. In
38:12
Unknown: Ukraine, Russian drone attacks are getting dangerously
38:14
close to the country's capital. Ukraine's Air Force said that
38:17
across the country, overnight, it shot down nearly 60 long
38:20
range drones, debris and shrapnel fell on the streets in
38:24
Kyiv, some of it narrowly missing the country's parliament
38:26
building. President Volodymyr Zelensky is in Italy. Today.
38:29
He's meeting with European leaders to try to shore up
38:32
support and ask for more
38:33
Adam Curry: aid. Money. Money, money. Looking for money. Money,
38:37
money. Come on, man, give me some money. Yeah.
38:42
John C Dvorak: Hey, guys gotta go,
38:43
Adam Curry: Oh, he's perfect. He's, I mean, he's, he's perfect
38:46
for the whole, gotta go. He's perfect for the whole, the whole
38:49
system.
38:50
John C Dvorak: I'm sick of the system being exploited. That's
38:54
our money. It's your money, my money. Everyone that listens to
38:57
this show, it's their money. Oh, this. They're just stealing
38:59
money. No,
39:00
Adam Curry: I feel your, your dismay. I'm just pointing out
39:06
the obvious. The guy's not going to go he's fantastic. Look,
39:09
when, when we send another two $50 million or if we're, if we
39:14
make decisions about long range missiles, why is it only Lloyd
39:20
Austin that talks about, where's our president? Isn't he the one
39:24
to get it out? Isn't he the one that should be telling us what
39:27
we're doing? No, they just send over generals and then
39:31
contractors, and they all sit in at a long desk, and Zelensky
39:35
then, oh yeah, good man, yeah. Keep it going, brother. Yeah. We
39:40
want more stuff.
39:42
John C Dvorak: Oh, you do have another I have another clip of
39:44
play. This is the drone. It says, Don't he have this is,
39:49
this is the counter clip. This is a longer clip. NPR does a 33
39:54
Adam Curry: seconds. Oh, nice. Here we go.
39:57
Unknown: Russia continued to bomb Ukraine today. Strike. Near
40:00
the parliament in the country's capital, Kyiv, during the early
40:03
hours, the country's Air Force said nearly 70 drones were used,
40:07
and most were shot down with air defenses. No deaths were
40:11
reported in the capital, but elsewhere in Sumy, Kharkiv,
40:14
Kherson and Dnipro, local officials say Russian attacks
40:18
injured or killed at least four people. This as funeral services
40:21
were held for victims of an earlier Russian attack on
40:24
Poltava that killed more than 50 people and injured hundreds.
40:30
John C Dvorak: You see that no mention of money. There
40:32
Adam Curry: no but the horrible. The reason why it's a 33 second
40:35
report is because even NPR knows no one in America cares anymore
40:39
about this. We've we're immune. We're like,
40:44
John C Dvorak: I agree. I agree with that. So they're
40:46
Adam Curry: trying to keep their audience. So PBS, so
40:50
John C Dvorak: they gotta do more anti Trump stuff and stuff
40:52
about these wars or anything.
40:54
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you need do more. You know, the I
40:57
didn't clip any of it, but the latest trend in and I heard this
41:02
on on the media from NPR, the trend is to say we're not
41:07
reporting right on Trump. We're translating his incoherent
41:11
blather because he's old, he's old and he can't senile and
41:16
senile, and so we're translating it. We should be playing and
41:20
saying exactly what he said, because no one understands it.
41:23
He's, I mean, it's all this is the new move is to make you got
41:28
to make Trump sound stupid. Well, the problem is that they
41:33
don't have enough air time, because his what he calls the
41:36
weave. It takes too long. It takes way too long for him to,
41:42
you know, to get to a point.
41:45
John C Dvorak: And, oh, it takes forever. It's, that's his whole
41:48
thing, is he, he's just a audience hog, the only way to
41:52
describe it, yes, he goes up there and yaks, yaks, yaks, yes,
41:57
and he, and he tries to do material. I had a clip here that
42:01
actually discusses this.
42:04
Adam Curry: Well, this is the trend, so I'm glad, I'm glad
42:06
that you're on it, because I didn't get anything.
42:09
John C Dvorak: Here's nb. This says NPR. Put Emma seven in this
42:14
randomly ripping Trump on his tariffs and some others. This
42:18
just a random NPR rip
42:22
Adam Curry: man, I wish I could find it. You confuse me with M,
42:25
John C Dvorak: P R, M, as in, Mary looking at m, O,
42:29
Adam Curry: M, P R, yes, I got you.
42:31
Unknown: Former President Donald Trump spoke at a rally in
42:33
mosney, Wisconsin this afternoon, a speech that went on
42:36
for more than an hour and a half the rally, no state push both
42:40
campaigns are doing with less than two months until Election
42:43
Day and pierce Daniel Curtis Leben reports,
42:46
Trump made many of his usual arguments, like railing against
42:49
the quote fake news and casting undocumented immigrants as
42:52
dangerous. See, this
42:53
Adam Curry: is what they want. They Hey, hey, you can't do that
42:56
anymore. You have to verbatim report what he said, because
42:59
he's he has cognitive issues. He also repeats.
43:03
John C Dvorak: He would stop before he finish that or that
43:06
thought. The way they begin the report is, though he went on for
43:11
an hour and a half like he's a rambling old man, as if he's
43:14
never He does 145 once in a while. Yeah, an hour and a half
43:19
in the modern era is short,
43:22
Adam Curry: and you wonder why people pay money to go see
43:24
Tucker and Vivek. They go, they they love, people love the live
43:29
show. Can't afford Oasis tickets, so you might as well go
43:33
to either the free Trump show, which is
43:36
John C Dvorak: not you mentioned it. What is a Taylor Swift
43:38
ticket cost? Oh, if you can get one, I've been just like 500
43:43
bucks and up. I've been hitting
43:44
Adam Curry: refresh for hours. Also repeatedly promoted
43:47
tariffs.
43:48
Unknown: We will charge other countries when their product is
43:51
sent into our country. And why shouldn't we? That's exactly
43:55
what they do. That's what that's what made China strong. Foreign
43:58
countries do not pay tariffs. Businesses importing goods to
44:01
the US do tariffs can be attempts to protect domestic
44:05
industry, but economists say many of tariffs costs are passed
44:08
on to us, consumers. As President Trump imposed tariffs
44:12
on hundreds of billions of dollars of Chinese goods.
44:14
President Joe Biden kept tariffs on Chinese goods in place.
44:18
Danielle kurtzweb, NPR news now.
44:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is an interesting report, because they
44:23
go on to condemn Him for tariffs, yeah, but Biden did it
44:27
casually, yeah, casually just kind of mentioned, just to
44:32
balance the report. I'm not sure why they even did it. Well, they
44:35
mentioned that
44:37
Unknown: go ahead. Well, I
44:38
John C Dvorak: thought you had something to say there.
44:40
Adam Curry: No go ahead.
44:41
John C Dvorak: I would do so what they did was they set it up
44:44
with all this guy's terrible. Oh, by the way, Biden did the
44:47
same thing. They only did that because it because they would be
44:50
condemned by the media watchers for not saying, hey, wait a
44:54
minute. Why is it so bad when Trump does it, but it's okay
44:56
when Biden does it, which is really what the combat so they.
45:00
Lip it in at the end, as though you won't notice. So
45:03
Adam Curry: it's very poor. So I've seen a couple things that
45:06
make me question. Well, I mean, if you look at the headlines
45:12
today, neck and neck, it's very close, within the margin of
45:15
error. It's a horse race, everybody. Oh, it's crazy. It's
45:18
so close, so close. I don't know if they're trying to pull
45:23
Trump's numbers up a little bit or I don't know, yes, I don't
45:28
know what PBS was thinking with this. This is so instead of
45:32
playing crazy Trump, let's play something from the crazy Trump
45:35
voters. And Are they crazy?
45:37
Unknown: I spoke to another Trump supporter, woman who
45:40
really spout
45:41
Adam Curry: why don't they say voters? They always say
45:43
supporters. You don't notice that. So that's a good I'll have
45:48
to start looking for that call about they say fans or
45:51
supporters, or anyway,
45:53
Unknown: I spoke to another Trump supporter, woman who
45:56
really spouted a series of conspiracy theories. She was
46:00
someone being trained for this Trump force 47 potentially, she
46:03
was in that she's gonna be one of those people trying to
46:06
persuade she was in that meeting. I didn't stay for the
46:09
actual training, but she was there for that event.
46:11
John C Dvorak: And hold on, Trump
46:12
Adam Curry: force 47
46:13
John C Dvorak: I didn't stay for the actual Wait. Why didn't she
46:15
stay? Because it
46:17
Adam Curry: would, it would rot her brain, and she'd become a
46:19
Trump supporter. She didn't want the programming. I don't know.
46:24
This is Trump force. If
46:26
John C Dvorak: you're reporting on something, no, even if you
46:29
didn't stay, why would you say that? It seems to me that you,
46:32
especially if you're NPR or PBS, whatever, this is same thing. I
46:36
Adam Curry: think this was these are on YouTube. These are like,
46:39
Zoom calls. You can sign up to become part of Trump force 40
46:43
Okay, okay, yes, I like it a lot. Actually, I like the whole
46:47
idea of Trump force 47
46:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, well, you can just keep playing force
46:54
47
46:55
Unknown: I didn't stay for the actual training, but she was
46:57
there for that event, and she told me, you know, I believe Joe
47:01
Biden died three years ago, you know, I told her, you know, that
47:04
sounds like a
47:06
Adam Curry: conspiracy theory. Well, Boyd, she countered. She
47:09
said, Oh no, that's a conspiracy theory. You know that, right?
47:12
And I told
47:12
Unknown: her, you know, that sounds like a conspiracy theory,
47:14
you know, that's a stereotype against Trump voters. And she
47:17
said, I know that. But again, this is true. So I talked to the
47:21
first woman, suburban woman, I Trump voter, said, you know,
47:23
these are the other supporters of Donald Trump. These are the
47:25
same people in your party supporting him. I just said, you
47:28
know, I think that's just crazy, you know. So they're, they're
47:32
really on different pages. They're both behind Donald
47:34
Trump, but they, neither one, are quite seeing the full
47:37
picture of his support and what he stands for to everyone who
47:41
supports him. So
47:42
Adam Curry: what I supports him. What I like about this is
47:45
they're saying there's such a wide array of people who are all
47:50
in on Trump, they're baffled by it. Yes, they're baffled,
47:53
exactly like the crazy ones. And the other ones say, Okay, well,
47:56
she's crazy, but it's all right. They cannot fathom that. People
48:02
just want an agenda, or, you know, they want a platform, or
48:06
they want something, anything, but what we have, they can't
48:09
lockstep
48:10
John C Dvorak: is what this is, the way they are. And the thing
48:12
that still fascinates me to go back to it, this was agenda with
48:17
Trump 47 I guess, force, whatever it's
48:20
Adam Curry: called, Trump force 47
48:22
John C Dvorak: Trump force 47 training, and you had the
48:26
opportunity to go to get in on it as a reporter. And you you
48:30
could report on exactly what the training was and how it works.
48:34
What kind of a Reporter Are
48:36
Adam Curry: you? There's and I'm seeing all kind
48:39
John C Dvorak: of asking you, I mean just gently, I
48:41
Adam Curry: hear you. I hear you that it's PBS reporter, is what
48:44
she is.
48:45
John C Dvorak: Would you like to come to our conspiracy theory
48:47
meeting? I know we don't usually let the press in, but if you
48:51
come in, it's okay. It'll be okay for you to come in and spy
48:54
on us. No problem. And you don't do it. I hereby invite. Are you
48:59
nuts?
49:00
Adam Curry: I hereby invite any PBS reporter to come to my vape
49:03
shop meetings, because you'd love them. You'd love to hear
49:08
the ranchers receivable, I know. So now it's interesting how we
49:12
kind of switched up beats out just looking at the titles of
49:15
your clips. So you brought in the Christian nationalism last
49:18
time, and CBS and that was, I think, NPR CBS did a series, you
49:24
know, the little report. And it sounded to me like they're
49:29
actually trying to get the non voting evangelicals out to vote,
49:35
which makes no sense, because that's the whole, you know, as
49:39
we've discussed. The whole problem is that the
49:42
evangelicals, the Christians, the Christian nationalists, they
49:46
don't vote. So they do a story where they say, Hey, these guys
49:50
don't vote
49:51
Unknown: under a massive circus tent in Eau Claire, Wisconsin,
49:53
Lance wall now is the ringleader preaching Christian nationalism
49:58
and political activism to. A rapturous following. Rapturous,
50:02
Adam Curry: a rapture, rapturous. I missed that the
50:06
first time I heard it, a rapturous following. Unless you
50:09
learn how to mobilize and how to move in at
50:12
Unknown: a local level, then you're letting the devil
50:16
dominate your culture, while now 68 is a business consultant,
50:20
self proclaimed Prophet and firebrand influencer in the
50:23
growing charismatic Christian movement. Oh, wow.
50:26
Adam Curry: What I want that on my business card. Fire brand.
50:29
John C Dvorak: Just put it on fire brand. Fire brand.
50:32
Unknown: He views Trump as a once in 1000 years figure,
50:36
flawed yet divinely chosen to navigate chaotic times. I caught
50:41
that idea in 2015 when I first met Trump, and I got a lot of
50:46
pushback after he got elected, because they were searching
50:49
around for how, why did the How could the Evangelicals justify
50:52
voting for some, you know, barbaric character like Trump
50:56
and they're hypocrites that they are well now admits that Trump
50:59
twice divorced and roundly accused of other moral failings
51:03
does not align with traditional evangelical expectations. I
51:06
said, Listen, give the guy some time. He doesn't know who we
51:09
are, but his values resonate with our community. God's
51:12
raising up an outsider, while now headlines the so called
51:16
courage tour, a religious road show that aims to mobilize
51:20
religious conservatives to vote and serve as election workers in
51:23
key counties.
51:24
Adam Curry: So that's just the setup. But then we get closer
51:27
into it, and I really think
51:29
John C Dvorak: CBS so the reporter is Major Garrett. Yes,
51:32
that's who that is. And he is kind of on the fence. He used to
51:38
be his fox, and he's always been on the fence with Trump, because
51:41
Trump because Trump is calling out as a douchebag
51:43
Adam Curry: more than one Good point, good point. So we should
51:47
keep that in mind. Well, it doesn't matter. It still has to
51:49
go through the CIA broadcast systems or the editors. Yeah,
51:54
and
51:54
Unknown: Trump evangelicals don't see an abrasive, thrice
51:57
married billionaire. They do see an anti establishment leader,
52:01
strong on abortion, gender issues and Israel. I
52:05
want people to vote because he stands for something. Jackie
52:09
Brokaw
52:09
lives in Wisconsin and attended the courage to her with her
52:12
brother.
52:13
The number of Christians that are in this area, if they would
52:16
vote, they could swing this county, which would probably
52:19
swing the rest of the state
52:20
we are seeing here today is the most targeted and tactical voter
52:26
mobilization effort done by Christian nationalists ever.
52:30
Matthew Taylor has written extensively about this new form
52:33
of religious activism that fuses political outcomes with divine
52:37
intervention. What is the political import possibly, in
52:40
the 2024 election of events like this. Well, if Trump wins, then
52:45
that becomes a part of the impetus that Donald Trump can
52:49
say, I don't just have a democratic mandate. I have a
52:51
divine mandate to change the country in accordance with the
52:56
biblical values that these folks claim to have.
53:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, Trump's gonna be, yeah, that's right, God. God
53:02
did it for me. And here comes the final, the final pitch, I
53:05
think, from Major Garrett.
53:07
Unknown: January 6 was not an insurrection, it was an election
53:10
fraud intervention. 2020, election denialism is core to
53:15
wall now's world view, and the terminology at his revivals is
53:19
apocalyptic. It's not us that's dangerous. It's them describing
53:23
a spiritual battle between pious believers and demons who speak
53:27
through Democrats or liberals. Yes, it's not just the person,
53:31
spiritual force, demonic or demonic? Yeah, they can
53:35
influence people with bodies. He believes hyper focused Christian
53:38
political energy can overcome those perceived obstacles, the
53:43
tendency to just look at elections, pray about them, eat
53:45
popcorn, watch the result and then go to bed, is over.
53:49
Christians as believers probably should be engaged in this
53:52
process of shaping culture far more aggressively and
53:56
intentionally from now on, as for their impact on the
53:59
election, God only knows, major carrot in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
54:07
Adam Curry: So, so that is he literally is, is helping the
54:11
message. It's better than maybe
54:13
John C Dvorak: again, the CIA we have talked about this on and
54:16
off and on and off, which is it possible they really want Trump
54:20
to win, yeah, and the whole thing is just a smoke screen
54:23
for, like, trying to get Trump to win somehow.
54:26
Adam Curry: Well, this report felt like it, and I can tell you
54:29
that churches around like it too. Churches around America are
54:33
speaking like this. I don't know if you want to call them
54:35
Christian nationalism, nationalists or extremists, but
54:39
that that there's a, there's a big movement out there trying to
54:42
do exactly this, and CBS just helped. Very interesting.
54:46
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Anderson Cooper brought out a
54:49
whopper of lies. We begin
54:51
John C Dvorak: tonight with the former president, campaign
54:53
politics, his legal troubles and lies. He finished his day in
54:57
Charlotte, North Carolina, where the Fraternal Order of. Police
55:00
endorsed him, and he had this to say about a violent attack on
55:03
Nancy Pelosi husband.
55:04
Unknown: You know that Nancy Pelosi is a big wall wrapped
55:07
around her house. Of course, it didn't help too much with the
55:12
problem she
55:12
John C Dvorak: had. That is that's the former president
55:14
speaking to members of law enforcement making light the
55:17
first time I should point out of the violent attack against Paul
55:20
Pelosi, a home invader, beat Mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and
55:24
fractured his skull. What sledgehammer? Sledgehammer we
55:32
saw the video. He's holding a regular claw hammer,
55:35
Adam Curry: sledgehammer. I
55:36
John C Dvorak: love we all saw it
55:40
Adam Curry: like, okay, pooper, a sledgehammer, no less. Gotcha.
55:46
Hey, by the way, the Fraternal Order of Police. Are those the
55:50
guys that always call me asking for money.
55:54
John C Dvorak: Sometimes they call. I mean, nowadays they have
55:57
this new guy. They have a new with with the big, heavy voice.
56:01
Hey, the guy with the big voice, which is a AI voice, oh, and
56:05
he's, it's an AI character, and which is easy to hang up on,
56:09
because you don't have to make an excuse.
56:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right. And yes, you're right. It is an
56:13
AI.
56:13
John C Dvorak: It's an AI guy says, Hi, how you doing? You
56:15
know, this is a nightclub. Don't hang up because, oh and he
56:17
laughs about something, and he but he has a voice. He has that
56:21
beautiful voice.
56:22
Adam Curry: This is Sergeant Pete from the Fraternal Order of
56:25
Police. Are you interested in in protecting police? It's, yeah,
56:30
he's
56:30
John C Dvorak: got this guy's got a great voice, yeah. And
56:33
it's, it comes up, I get that call about once every couple
56:37
months. Yeah, a couple of months, I get it too. And it's
56:39
the same guy, it's the same voice, and now it's an AI. So
56:43
it's not it's and it interacts. It's interactive AI, so you can
56:47
say something to it, except Are you an AI voice? And then you
56:51
hear the thing going to a stall as it tries to dredge up an
56:55
answer to that. Or they got to fix this. Because if you're
57:02
gonna do that, they gotta come up with a quicker response,
57:06
yeah. Because every time you call it out as a robot or AI, it
57:11
goes into a long loop, and then it comes back with, oh, no, I'm
57:16
not AI. I'm a real person. It's terrible. It is terrible. And
57:22
it's so easy to spot and very easy to hang out.
57:25
Adam Curry: I'm not a I, yeah, so I want to call out the the
57:30
press on all sides about this bull crap Dick Cheney
57:36
endorsement. You think that Dick Cheney was out there with his
57:40
heart in his in his shoulder bag, which he has, he has that
57:44
battery powered thing that keeps his heart going. If he still
57:48
Yeah,
57:48
John C Dvorak: he's got, yeah, he has a heart. But Amazing how
57:50
long this guy can live.
57:52
Adam Curry: But it wasn't Dick Cheney. He didn't come out and
57:55
say that. Oh, this happened in Texas at the what was this? The
58:03
Texas Tribune interview of his daughter,
58:06
Unknown: Dick Cheney. Your father, a beloved figure among
58:09
Democrats for many, many years. Do you if you know who he will
58:16
be supporting or who he'll be voting for? Do
58:18
you care to share with us who
58:19
he might be voting for Dick
58:21
Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris.
58:25
Adam Curry: That's the extent of the so called Dick Cheney
58:28
endorsement. I
58:29
John C Dvorak: thought that. I thought there was a press
58:31
release that came out from Dick Cheney saying he would support
58:34
Kamala. Well, I
58:34
Adam Curry: haven't seen it. I've only, I've only seen
58:37
headlines
58:38
John C Dvorak: wheat maybe, yeah,
58:40
Adam Curry: you're on. People are calling for an intervention
58:43
of your your your ex, your ex usage. They're very concerned.
58:49
John C Dvorak: As long as my numbers go up, and they have
58:51
been going up, I'm keeping it up. This is good for the show.
58:57
Adam Curry: So, you know, we
58:59
John C Dvorak: all come on there's funny stuff in there.
59:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, there is funny stuff. We're just worried that
59:03
you're too caught up in it. People love you, John, that's
59:06
why, no, just want to make sure you're okay. Blink twice.
59:10
John C Dvorak: So we handle it. We anyway.
59:13
Adam Curry: So we finished the whole series of Veep with Julia
59:18
Louis Dreyfus, and I've been looking at all these parallels
59:21
with Kamala Harris, and there was a, there was, near the end,
59:26
she's doing this negotiation with the Chinese, and it turns
59:29
out the campaign manager she hired is, you know, is working
59:33
for the Chinese, and they kill her ex husband. And so this
59:37
throughout the thread of the entire, you know, back end of
59:40
the series, her PR guy, stupid Mike, who is stupid. He's trying
59:46
to adopt a kid from China, and they're at Camp David, when she
59:50
becomes she's temporarily president, and she pisses off
59:54
the Chinese. And then all of a sudden, you know, the Chinese
59:57
say, Oh, we've now stopped all adopt. Options of children from
1:00:01
China, and then this which, well, this story pops
1:00:05
John C Dvorak: Today,
1:00:06
Unknown: China says it is ending most foreign adoptions of
1:00:09
Chinese children. The announcement puts hundreds of
1:00:12
American and other foreign families with pending
1:00:14
application, their adoptions in limbo. The only exceptions would
1:00:18
be for foreigners adopting the children or stepchildren of
1:00:21
blood relatives in China. Since the early 90s, the country has
1:00:24
sent 10s of 1000s of adoptees overseas, with about half
1:00:28
arriving in the US. For decades, China only allowed couples to
1:00:31
have one child, forcing many families to put their children
1:00:34
up for adoption, but to slow down a falling birth rate, the
1:00:38
government reverse policy?
1:00:40
Adam Curry: No, I don't think so. I think that this is a
1:00:42
couple of days ago, by the way, yeah, I know it's retaliation
1:00:46
today, huh? Yeah,
1:00:48
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm just getting the timeline Correct.
1:00:50
Thank
1:00:50
Adam Curry: you. It's retaliation. They don't want
1:00:54
whatever Carmel is doing with China. They don't like it, which
1:00:58
could be,
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: by the way, you you kind of, I think you may be
1:01:02
light hearted when you say that, but I two people are trying to
1:01:06
adopt kids. You might be right. Well, it really upsets. I mean,
1:01:11
people who are into adopting kids because, for one reason or
1:01:15
another, because they can't have kids they have to adopt. Are
1:01:17
they like kids? No, seriously, yeah, they will. This is cutting
1:01:22
off one a stream of possible kids that they can raise
1:01:26
Adam Curry: a stream of kids. Well, it could be because of the
1:01:31
export controls that were announced. You heard about this?
1:01:35
I'm not sure. Well, it's from NTD. So you know, when it's
1:01:38
about China, it must be true. Must be true, and it also hits
1:01:42
on another one of my favorite topics.
1:01:44
Unknown: Washington has a new plan for stemming the flow of
1:01:47
advanced microchips to Beijing. The Commerce Department came out
1:01:50
with new rules Thursday. From now on, companies looking to
1:01:54
export technology and tools related to quantum computing
1:01:57
have to apply for export licenses
1:02:00
Adam Curry: quantum computing. You don't say, Are we pivoting?
1:02:03
Unknown: The new restrictions are meant to prevent Beijing
1:02:06
from using that technology to advance its own military
1:02:09
semiconductors are critical to military power as they're
1:02:13
required for the most advanced weapons and equipment. The
1:02:16
guidelines didn't name China, but they expand similar
1:02:20
restrictions that the US previously put in place. The
1:02:23
rules are effective immediately. The expert controls cover a
1:02:27
number of things, quantum computing, items, advanced tools
1:02:30
for making microchips and a piece of key technology used in
1:02:34
chips for supercomputers. Samsung has started using this
1:02:38
technology to make one of the globe's most advanced chips,
1:02:41
though, there are exemptions, friendly countries like Japan
1:02:45
already have their own export controls, so entities in those
1:02:49
countries are not subject to the new US export controls.
1:02:52
Washington's new action comes after China found new ways to
1:02:56
get around restrictions
1:02:58
Adam Curry: so quantum computing no longer AI, which I found
1:03:02
interesting. Now that NVIDIA is crashing, I know it's up 100%
1:03:07
over year over year, but still, it's bringing down the whole
1:03:10
market. And they've coerced, they've coerced the Dutch into
1:03:14
this, like, Hey, you ASML Dutch guys, you're not going to
1:03:19
export, right? Because, you know, quantum computing is
1:03:22
important for advanced weaponry. The US
1:03:24
Unknown: previously banned Chinese companies from getting
1:03:27
their hands on certain powerful AI chips, but some Chinese firms
1:03:31
have been able to utilize computing power generated from
1:03:34
these chips with a workaround by using us cloud computing
1:03:37
companies like Amazon, web services, the Commerce
1:03:40
Department said it expects to see similar export restrictions
1:03:43
from friendly countries. The Netherlands is following
1:03:46
Washington's footsteps. The country is home to the world's
1:03:49
leading supply of microchip producing equipment, ASML, the
1:03:53
gear allows companies to mass produce advanced chips. On
1:03:57
Friday, the Dutch government said it would expand export
1:04:00
licensing requirements for some of ASML chip making equipment.
1:04:04
Yeah,
1:04:05
Adam Curry: that's right. Shut up. Duchies do what we say. I
1:04:09
just thought it was interesting that you know, you you ban the
1:04:12
supply of kids from China right around the same time that you
1:04:16
put export restrictions on quantum computing chips. Is
1:04:20
quantum computing really one chip. All I see is, nobody knows
1:04:25
what it is, obviously these spaceship things that you see,
1:04:28
Google quantum wish it was one chip that worked, yeah, of
1:04:33
course it's not. Yeah. That worked, exactly the work
1:04:36
John C Dvorak: that that worked. The word worked, yeah is the key
1:04:40
here. I'd love to know we've been bullshitted into thinking
1:04:43
it does well, I'm extremely scared. I mean, you may be
1:04:47
skeptical by AI, totally the quantum computing is a non
1:04:52
starter. Just
1:04:53
Adam Curry: as skeptical of of of quantum as I am of AI, my
1:04:57
question is, who I. These are first. Who is making these so
1:05:03
called Quantum chips? What company?
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. They've kind of hinted Samsung's
1:05:10
got something to do with this, although that same assertion
1:05:13
about Samsung could apply to AI chips the way they said, it was
1:05:18
vague. It's vague.
1:05:20
Adam Curry: I'm just going to stick with the technology for a
1:05:23
moment. We have a lot of dudes named Ben out there and dudettes
1:05:26
named Bernadette, who maintain many systems of the windows
1:05:30
variety. This goes back to the CrowdStrike bug that brought
1:05:37
down the entire world for a little bit, stopped hospitals
1:05:40
from operating, stopped airlines from flying, except for
1:05:44
Southwest the team over at the pirate software podcast had an
1:05:50
interesting deconstruction, which I'd like to know if you
1:05:53
saw this happen, and you can probably go back in the logs and
1:05:56
check within your own IT infrastructure. So the
1:05:59
interesting
1:06:00
Unknown: thing that I'm kind of waiting on right now is you have
1:06:02
windows and you have CrowdStrike right initially, I believe that
1:06:05
CrowdStrike is at fault for this, and the reason why is
1:06:07
because CrowdStrike pushed an update and then everything broke
1:06:11
in Windows because this update was in place only for
1:06:14
CrowdStrike related machines. But it's not that simple.
1:06:18
Windows pushed an update and CrowdStrike pushed an update and
1:06:20
everything was fine, and apparently Windows has then
1:06:23
pushed another update and then everything broke. Now, the
1:06:27
interesting part about this is that the machines were fine
1:06:31
initially under this configuration, and Windows
1:06:33
changing that configuration caused this problem to occur,
1:06:37
which then leads into a really weird legal territory, which is,
1:06:40
Whose fault is this? Is it Windows fault because they
1:06:43
changed that configuration? Should they have changed that
1:06:46
configuration? Or is it crowdstrikes fault because it
1:06:48
caused the system to die under that configuration that wasn't
1:06:51
the initial one that they pushed that update on? Usually inside
1:06:54
of the tech space, we would blame the individualized
1:06:57
program, not the operating system. The operating system
1:07:00
would not be at fault here, but legally speaking, we don't know.
1:07:04
Adam Curry: So I thought this was fascinating. I It happened
1:07:07
on a Friday, which is not typical for a Windows Update.
1:07:11
No,
1:07:11
John C Dvorak: they always happen on Tuesdays. And the
1:07:13
thing is, I I'm finding peculiar that he keeps saying Windows
1:07:17
instead of
1:07:18
Adam Curry: Microsoft. Yeah, I didn't like that either. But
1:07:21
Windows is not a company, but that, that could just be
1:07:25
semantics. So what he's saying is that Windows pushed an
1:07:31
update, CrowdStrike pushed an update, and everything was fine,
1:07:36
but then Windows pushing up, and remember, we had that Azure
1:07:39
outage, which was really odd. We don't quite understand the
1:07:43
timing of that, which you would think is Windows machines. Who
1:07:46
knows? It's probably all running Linux. Remember Hotmail was
1:07:50
running on Linux. Remember
1:07:53
John C Dvorak: that Microsoft bought and it's, oh, my God, we
1:07:55
got to recode the whole thing.
1:07:56
Unknown: Got to put it on NT.
1:08:00
Adam Curry: So I'd like to know our dude's name, Ben out there.
1:08:03
Let me know if you have any evidence that that happens,
1:08:06
because that would change some potential liability or not. It's
1:08:12
EULAs, you know or not.
1:08:16
John C Dvorak: No, I haven't heard that particular I like the
1:08:18
idea about So, what did else do these guys talk about should
1:08:21
listen to this podcast. It's
1:08:23
Adam Curry: a little it's a little tedious, you know,
1:08:26
because it's four guys, and they're yucking it up, and
1:08:29
they're all talking together, and they're drawn on
1:08:30
whiteboards, and it's the pirate software podcast. Now, good
1:08:38
guys. I like them. I like them. I like what they did there.
1:08:41
John C Dvorak: All right, let's see what we got here. Let's go
1:08:47
with you. Just brought this up. You brought up the issue of the
1:08:50
Chinese adoption. So might as well go to the A series that was
1:08:53
done on PBS fixie, an exposition on family planning that I
1:08:58
thought was kind of interesting with the because it has a
1:09:00
kicker. Last
1:09:01
Unknown: year, the US birth rate hit a record low, but data
1:09:05
suggests that over the past 30 years, the number of adults who
1:09:08
want or wish they had children has remained relatively stable.
1:09:12
So why aren't they having children or expanding their
1:09:15
families? Ali Rogin explores some of the complexities of
1:09:18
today's family planning.
1:09:19
Over the past few weeks, we've been speaking with Americans who
1:09:23
say they want to have a child or grow their families about why
1:09:26
they're hesitant to do so. Their answers were varied and complex,
1:09:30
just like the solutions they said would help them change
1:09:33
their minds,
1:09:34
Adam Curry: grow your family.
1:09:36
John C Dvorak: Reminds me, I stopped it here thinking, well,
1:09:38
this might be an interesting report. Then it turns out that
1:09:41
you should listen and listen and listen. It is just a pro. It's a
1:09:46
Kamala Harris promotional piece.
1:09:48
Unknown: Of course, I
1:09:49
always wanted kids I love before you
1:09:52
John C Dvorak: play this second part. It cuts into interviews
1:09:57
with just a random they have a person. Then. Say, boy, they
1:10:00
don't like having kids, and then another person, they just one
1:10:02
after the other, after the other, after the other. And you
1:10:05
can start to hear the Kamala Harris promotion within the what
1:10:10
these people are complaining about. Not everyone, by the way,
1:10:13
look like they ever I'm sorry, none of them look like they want
1:10:16
to have kids anyway. But okay, I always
1:10:19
Unknown: wanted kids. I love kids, but economically, I don't
1:10:23
really know of anyone who can swing it anymore, even parents
1:10:26
that are working full time, they can't afford childcare. They
1:10:30
don't have a village to help them raise them.
1:10:33
I'm grateful that we are in like, a stable financial
1:10:35
situation. Still, it's difficult to raise a child. We don't have
1:10:40
any family close by. We have friends who also have kids. Is
1:10:43
Adam Curry: she Chinese? Is this? Is this a Chinese lady?
1:10:46
She was Spanish. Oh,
1:10:47
Unknown: so they are also busy taking care of their families.
1:10:51
It's difficult. We don't we don't have anyone. Every
1:10:53
year there comes out a new statistic of whether or not
1:10:56
we've hit the turning point for climate change, and that's
1:10:59
something that I take into consideration when it comes to
1:11:02
starting a family, because I don't want to raise a child in a
1:11:05
world that every year gets closer and closer to becoming
1:11:08
uninhabitable. So
1:11:14
Adam Curry: Kamala Harris, climate change, okay, you better
1:11:16
bring it home in the kicker.
1:11:19
John C Dvorak: Well, let's bring it home in the
1:11:20
Unknown: kicker, if universal child care was an option and we
1:11:23
didn't have to worry about that, if universal health care was an
1:11:27
option, and, you know, I wouldn't have to wonder if I can
1:11:31
anticipate, you know, regular maternal care, high quality
1:11:36
maternal care while I was pregnant, then, yeah, we
1:11:38
absolutely would have made an effort to expand our family, for
1:11:42
sure?
1:11:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Because, of course, that's the 6000
1:11:47
that's
1:11:47
John C Dvorak: exactly two main things. Is, you know, having
1:11:50
universal child care, because you can't keep care of your own
1:11:53
child, so you have to have somebody else. You want the
1:11:55
government to take care of your child, and you want the
1:11:57
government to take over the medical system. So there you go.
1:12:00
There's, that's the camel. It went on. And if you if I played
1:12:03
the whole thing, you start to hear it. No, I
1:12:06
Adam Curry: heard it's all about sense. And you know, Sir Brian
1:12:10
Baron of the Connecticut River Valley, he went searching for
1:12:14
the 19 million new business applications. Ah, which I love,
1:12:20
because, you know, that's what time talent treasure is all
1:12:24
about. Yeah, totally, we have the best producers in the
1:12:27
universe. He says, Ah, I found it. The so called new business
1:12:31
application in the 19 million claim is filing a Form SS four
1:12:37
to obtain an employer identification number from the
1:12:41
IRS, of which, of course, you know, 10 million will probably
1:12:46
never do anything with it. Oh, so it's a little special,
1:12:51
John C Dvorak: good catch. Yeah, congratulations on that. Yeah,
1:12:56
Adam Curry: which I thought was a very good catch. Yeah, more
1:12:58
Bs, and that's not exactly a new business filing. But okay, we'll
1:13:04
take it. We'll take it. Brought up climate change. Do
1:13:10
John C Dvorak: you mind if I good I got some climate change
1:13:12
clips. I'll start it off with
1:13:13
Adam Curry: the latest climate change. This
1:13:15
Unknown: is what Asia's most powerful storm so far this year
1:13:18
looks like, maximum sustained winds in excess of 230
1:13:22
kilometers per hour, battered southern China, damaging
1:13:26
everything in its path, from buildings to trees, at least two
1:13:30
people were killed and dozens injured in Hainan province,
1:13:33
hundreds of 1000s of homes were left without power. Transport
1:13:37
links were suspended, schools closed and millions of people
1:13:41
were told to avoid going out. Yagi has doubled in strength
1:13:44
from tropical storm to super typhoon since it hit the
1:13:47
Philippines earlier this week, killing more than a dozen people
1:13:51
there a super typhoon has the same damaging effects as a
1:13:54
category five hurricane. China, Vietnam and Laos are all in its
1:13:59
path. Scientists say Typhoons are becoming stronger and more
1:14:03
frequent as a result of warmer ocean temperatures,
1:14:06
due to climate change, due to climate change. There
1:14:09
Adam Curry: it is, due to climate change. It's all climate
1:14:11
change. Everything is climate change. It's all climate change.
1:14:16
You know, of course, we have some kind I've
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: never had a super typhoon before. I was in Taiwan
1:14:24
once during a typhoon. It was interesting.
1:14:29
Adam Curry: Okay, John, so
1:14:31
John C Dvorak: I went to a to a department store who would do
1:14:34
some shopping, and as this thing was coming in before I get back
1:14:37
to the hotel, and I've never had this quite this experience
1:14:40
before, but it started raining. So you couldn't it was like, the
1:14:43
rain was like, it's like a like, a Deep Fog. You couldn't see
1:14:48
five feet in front of you and you, but you had to make a run
1:14:52
for it to get to a taxi to get out of there. And one step, I
1:14:57
can still remember this one step into. It to get out of the store
1:15:02
soaked from head to foot in like one second, shoes ruined just
1:15:09
instantly. And it's just quite fascinating to get that wet that
1:15:12
fast. It's like jumping into a pool. And did people
1:15:15
Adam Curry: point at you and say, due to climate change?
1:15:17
John C Dvorak: No, everybody Yes. They always say, climate
1:15:19
change. A lot of broken umbrellas. Let's put it that
1:15:22
way.
1:15:22
Adam Curry: Oh, that'll happen. So I guess the western part of
1:15:29
the southwestern part of the United States, we got Arizona.
1:15:32
We have Los Angeles, the heat dome moved over there, also
1:15:36
known as summer in Texas. In Texas, it's been written. How
1:15:40
about that? We were, we've been in Mexico. It's been pretty.
1:15:43
It's very humid, but it's been 84 degrees. You know, it's nice.
1:15:47
It's beautiful Hawaii weather, yeah, and a Texas, 7274 rain,
1:15:54
cold for Texas, for the hill country, the heart of Texas. So
1:16:01
I don't know how the averages work, but you've obviously got
1:16:04
to know it's the
1:16:09
Unknown: hottest year on record, likely to hit 108 degrees today
1:16:12
in Phoenix Arizona tomorrow and the next day. Nothing.
1:16:16
Adam Curry: It's that's, that's low for Phoenix Arizona. Phoenix
1:16:20
John C Dvorak: Arizona, in the summer like now, and it's, it's
1:16:24
unbelievably hot, and it would, yeah, you can't even get back
1:16:28
into your car if you, if you have to leave it outside, you
1:16:31
can't get back into it. You have to take your key. You have to
1:16:34
try to open the door with like, a napkin or so. You have need
1:16:37
something, because you burn your hand on the door handle. You get
1:16:41
the door open, you you reach and turn your put the key into the
1:16:44
ignition. Anyone in Arizona knows this, put the key in
1:16:47
addition to start up the car and turn on the air conditioner and
1:16:51
wait five to 10 minutes before
1:16:53
Adam Curry: getting in, before getting in and and this is where
1:16:58
us being somewhat uh, older, or, as they say in Mexico, Anejo,
1:17:03
she's
1:17:06
John C Dvorak: also the name of a age tequila. Well,
1:17:08
Adam Curry: that's why I brought it up. Anejo aged. We like a
1:17:12
fine age tequila. We know that this is nothing new. I've been
1:17:17
to Arizona as a kid. It was hot. I've been to Nevada. We as kids,
1:17:22
we went to, I remember our parents, oh, you're in Vegas. I
1:17:25
don't remember why, but it must have been nine, so a good 51
1:17:30
years ago. And we literally did the old, oh, let's, let's boil
1:17:34
an egg, let's fry an egg on the pavement. And it worked. You
1:17:38
know, it's so anyway, it's horrible. It's 108 in Phoenix,
1:17:44
Arizona.
1:17:45
Unknown: This past Tuesday, Phoenix officially recorded a
1:17:47
record breaking 100 straight days of heat at or above 100
1:17:52
degrees Fahrenheit. And since the heat dome over the Southwest
1:17:55
has not budged, that record is likely to continue to go up.
1:17:59
Today will be 104 of one days of 100 degree weather, and more
1:18:04
than half of those days have been higher than 110 degrees.
1:18:08
Record breaking heat in recent years has also caused a record
1:18:11
number of heat related injuries, illnesses and deaths across the
1:18:15
globe. World Health Organization estimates that half a million
1:18:18
people worldwide die from heat related causes each year here in
1:18:22
the United States, hospitals have seen the cut. In the
1:18:24
country, have seen dramatic increases in heat injuries like
1:18:27
severe burns from Sun baked pavement and metal heat related
1:18:31
delirium and heat stroke. So
1:18:34
Adam Curry: obviously, dramatic increases, the same as saying
1:18:36
50% increase over what we don't know. We don't know what the
1:18:40
baseline is, and we know that people who burn themselves on
1:18:45
the pavement are usually drug addicts who are passing out and
1:18:49
burning on the pavement. But doesn't matter. You know you're
1:18:52
just walking around and you burn yourself on the pavement. That's
1:18:55
the impression they give us. But you
1:18:57
Unknown: should know what happens to your body when it
1:19:00
exposes itself to extreme heat. What
1:19:02
Adam Curry: does your body do when it exposes itself to
1:19:06
extreme heat? Job,
1:19:07
John C Dvorak: well, usually the My body doesn't expose itself. I
1:19:13
have some some control over it, and and usually, usually sweats,
1:19:22
maybe, or it decides to go inside or find some shade. Does
1:19:26
Adam Curry: your body decide to do that?
1:19:29
John C Dvorak: You on its own. You've got a great
1:19:31
Unknown: body. The human body has evolved to maintain a core
1:19:34
temperature of about 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, or 37
1:19:39
degrees Celsius. Our bodies are built with complex, effective
1:19:42
temperature regulation systems to try to help us handle
1:19:45
variable weather in extreme heat. Those temperature
1:19:49
regulation systems are hard at work. First, your body attempts
1:19:53
thermal regulation by moving blood flow outward toward the
1:19:57
surface of the skin the heart rate. Quickens blood vessels
1:20:01
dilate to release heat, the skin becomes flush, then your body
1:20:04
begins to sweat. Oh,
1:20:06
Adam Curry: wow. This he's explaining sweating. This is
1:20:08
great.
1:20:11
John C Dvorak: What kind of morons listen to this MSNBC
1:20:14
Adam Curry: viewers who think everything is due to climate
1:20:17
change. By the way, the same thing happens when you're in the
1:20:20
sauna,
1:20:20
Unknown: flush. Then your body begins to sweat. A sweat
1:20:24
evaporates. It carries HEAT off the body in an attempt to cool
1:20:27
it. But if it's really hot, especially if it's hot and
1:20:31
humid, these thermal regulation systems that we've developed
1:20:34
won't be enough. Oh
1:20:35
no. Go
1:20:36
Adam Curry: inside. Go inside. Quick.
1:20:38
Unknown: The heart will continue to be fast, putting strain on
1:20:41
cardiovascular systems. The skin will continue to sweat,
1:20:44
depleting your body of water and essential electrolytes. Oh,
1:20:48
I
1:20:48
need electro electrolytes. Electrolytes. Quick
1:20:53
dehydration will set
1:20:55
Adam Curry: in. Have a drink of water, maybe
1:20:58
Unknown: excessive sweating will cause an imbalance of fluids and
1:21:01
salts in the human system, muscles will cramp. They'll feel
1:21:04
weak. Your heart will keep working harder. The kidneys,
1:21:07
which help filter waste and manage fluid in your body,
1:21:09
become strained.
1:21:10
John C Dvorak: Wow, this
1:21:11
Adam Curry: is so good. I feel weak my kidneys, I don't what
1:21:17
should I do?
1:21:18
Unknown: As your body loses water, the volume of body in
1:21:21
your water decreases. So does your blood pressure? No, the
1:21:24
blood thickens as it loses moisture. The heart that has to
1:21:27
my
1:21:29
Adam Curry: blood is thickening. I'm slowing down. I don't think
1:21:32
I can make it inside for a drink of water. And harder
1:21:35
Unknown: to pump blood to the brain, because less brain to the
1:21:38
less blood to the brain means less oxygen to the brain, which
1:21:41
causes lightheadedness, confusion, dizziness, even
1:21:43
fainting, like our president, when unable to regulate your
1:21:48
body's core temperature rises rapidly. If your body's core
1:21:51
temperature nears 104 degrees, it reaches the threshold for
1:21:56
heat stroke, with that strain on the heart, on the brain, on the
1:22:00
kidneys and the liver. All that's happening now is that
1:22:04
your risk of organ failure has increased. My
1:22:07
Adam Curry: organs are failing, failing. If your
1:22:11
Unknown: body hits a core temperature of 107 degrees, Wow,
1:22:15
your body's proteins begin to break down. There is
1:22:18
irreversible vital organs, and usually comes death,
1:22:24
Adam Curry: death, oh, no, death, death is next. So this is
1:22:28
a very long lead into the Copernicus Institute, which is
1:22:33
this, this European, you know, they've now become the, the,
1:22:37
the, the, the official word on climate change and temperatures.
1:22:43
They're in the EU, funded by the EU and but everyone believes in
1:22:47
the Copernicus Institute, extreme
1:22:49
Unknown: heat is even deadlier than hurricanes, tornadoes and
1:22:51
floods combined. Really,
1:22:55
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't think that's blood through I
1:23:00
think
1:23:01
John C Dvorak: combined everything all dropped from
1:23:03
heat. Yeah,
1:23:04
Adam Curry: I have a feeling that more people die in
1:23:07
hurricanes and stuff. But
1:23:08
John C Dvorak: okay, statistician out there listening
1:23:10
to the show, we can get some numbers.
1:23:12
Unknown: Last year was the hottest here on record globally,
1:23:15
and this summer broke last year's record. Just yesterday,
1:23:17
the European Union's Copernicus climate change service reported
1:23:21
that summer 2024 was the hottest, most humid summer ever
1:23:24
recorded on Earth, ever on Earth. This summer, the Biden
1:23:27
administration announced a heat plan, an initiative to help
1:23:30
protect workers from excessive heat, as well as to fortify
1:23:33
communities across the country to handle extreme heat as it
1:23:36
becomes more common. Their plan includes cooling infrastructure
1:23:40
as well as heat information systems to help prepare and
1:23:43
protect people from the growing threat of extreme heat, all
1:23:46
supported by the National Weather Service, the EPA and
1:23:49
NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
1:23:52
supported by them. Meanwhile, as Trump and some Republicans in
1:23:55
Congress continue to deny the existence of human caused
1:23:58
climate change, the project 2025,
1:24:01
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop. He all of a sudden changes from
1:24:07
climate change the very at the very end, when condemning Trump,
1:24:11
yes to human caused climate change. Why nowhere in the
1:24:16
report so far has it been brought up that they believe
1:24:19
it's human caused? It's just climate change. It could be a
1:24:22
natural phenomenon. Could because of the sun, could
1:24:25
because of the 22 year Sun cycle. Could be sunspots. It
1:24:28
could be a lot of things, but now, because you're going to
1:24:30
condemn Trump, you slip it in as though that was the factor all
1:24:35
along. Very tricky.
1:24:37
Adam Curry: I would say climate change is caused by project 2025
1:24:43
that's what's going that's what's going on here. Meanwhile,
1:24:46
Unknown: as Trump and some Republicans in Congress continue
1:24:48
to deny the existence of human caused climate change, the
1:24:52
project 2025 blueprint for the next conservative administration
1:24:55
wants to gut the EPA. Wants to completely dismantle the.
1:25:00
Weather Service and Noah, oh,
1:25:02
Adam Curry: no, we won't know if there's climate change. Then
1:25:06
they
1:25:06
John C Dvorak: want to gut, if they want to eliminate, they
1:25:09
want to shut down the epic, I don't, I never
1:25:12
Adam Curry: heard this. Hello. It's in Project 25
1:25:15
John C Dvorak: oh, it's in that stupid project 2025. Thing that
1:25:18
they Yeah, that Trump never read, yes,
1:25:21
Adam Curry: exactly. That's what's going on.
1:25:25
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, I got a couple of things here I want to
1:25:28
play. One is the course we have to play this. This is a even
1:25:32
NTD, or which seems to be your favorite channel. Now that
1:25:36
you're stealing my material, you're
1:25:37
Adam Curry: stealing my material,
1:25:40
John C Dvorak: I just have to just have to just a little bitty
1:25:43
climate clip from man TD, and this is the feels like feels
1:25:48
like temperature. They're even doing it this
1:25:51
Unknown: week, the nation is bracing for a severe heat wave
1:25:54
with extreme temperatures anticipated to affect 32 major
1:25:57
cities. Some areas are expected to exceed 105 degrees starting
1:26:02
Wednesday, a heat advisory has been issued for South Florida,
1:26:06
including Miami, Dade Broward and the Florida Keys were, feels
1:26:09
like temperatures could soar to 110 degrees Wednesday afternoon
1:26:13
feels
1:26:14
Adam Curry: like temperatures.
1:26:16
John C Dvorak: Feels like temperatures. You know, I've
1:26:18
been working with Horowitz for over a decade on the and he
1:26:21
lives in Florida, and I don't care, any Floridian will tell
1:26:25
you the same thing, the summers in Florida are miserable, yes.
1:26:30
So what else is new? Yeah. And anyway, and CNN report feels
1:26:36
like temperature.
1:26:38
Adam Curry: CNN reports it's early September. What should be
1:26:41
the busiest stretch of hurricane season. Forecasters predicted
1:26:45
this was going to be a bad one, storm after storm, the most
1:26:49
bullish forecasts on record in straight instead, the Atlantic
1:26:53
Ocean is enveloped in a rare and strange calm that has flummoxed
1:26:58
forecasters. And here's the
1:27:03
John C Dvorak: finish you read. I know if you're reading that,
1:27:04
but yeah, this is fascinating, because what's happened, and
1:27:08
this was reported. We didn't have any I didn't get any clips
1:27:11
of it, but about two weeks ago, they were wondering, Where's all
1:27:14
these damned hurricanes they're supposed to have? Yeah, and they
1:27:18
and the and the water is warmer than usual, and now they come up
1:27:21
with this bogus theory. They keep theorizing. Everything's
1:27:24
done in the pat you know, this old armchair quarterbacking
1:27:27
where, well, it must be this. It's the temperatures have
1:27:31
gotten so hot in the oceans that is confusing. The storms, they
1:27:37
can't form. I
1:27:38
Adam Curry: don't know what to do. I'm confused. I think we
1:27:42
actually predicted this was gonna this was gonna happen. I
1:27:45
think that maybe a few months back, oh, it's gonna be the
1:27:48
worst September ever. You watch climate change. It's gonna kill
1:27:51
so many people Florida, be on beyond watch horrible. I think
1:27:56
we even just out of principle, said, No, it's not gonna happen.
1:28:01
John C Dvorak: You got it right. Just out of principle, exactly
1:28:04
so full of it, yeah, that it doesn't take a genius to say,
1:28:08
Oh, that's not gonna happen. As
1:28:11
Adam Curry: an aviator, I can tell you that you can predict
1:28:16
what's going to happen in a certain area, like an airport.
1:28:19
Weather wise, you can do 24 hours, but really 12 hours, you
1:28:25
can predict that. You can't predict anything out further out
1:28:28
than that. So it's all horse crap. It really is. But this is,
1:28:37
this is the one man this. This is what they're going to use to
1:28:40
talk about, you know, this will be the reason for all these
1:28:46
mosquitoes. And, you know, all the horrible we're all dying
1:28:51
from all of these horrible triple equine you know, or was
1:28:57
it Eastern Equine Encephalitis? Yeah. I think actually have a,
1:29:06
yeah, I have, I have a clip, actually, of this West
1:29:08
Unknown: Nile virus, spread by mosquitoes, is now deadly in New
1:29:12
Jersey, the state health department New Jersey deaths
1:29:14
were older adults in Cumberland and Mercer counties.
1:29:18
Adam Curry: Of course, old people die all the time, from
1:29:20
from disease,
1:29:22
John C Dvorak: he died, please. New infection. Well, I get the
1:29:24
bird. I could
1:29:25
Adam Curry: Oh, you just okay. That's okay. You can you? Oh,
1:29:28
you have another play my
1:29:29
John C Dvorak: bird here's another one, same thing, bird
1:29:32
flu. This time, bird flu. Get you let bird flu out. Oh,
1:29:35
Unknown: I'm sorry. Health officials have identified a
1:29:37
person in Missouri sick with bird food, despite having no
1:29:41
known contact with animals, marks the first case of the
1:29:44
virus in the United States this year, not linked to farm work,
1:29:47
and appears Juliana Kim reports
1:29:49
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that a
1:29:52
person in Missouri was hospitalized and treated for
1:29:55
bird flu. Unlike other human cases, this patient has no
1:29:59
known. Exposure to a sick animal. Bird flu has been
1:30:03
spreading across farms in the United States since the spring.
1:30:06
So far, there have been 14 human cases of the virus, and nearly
1:30:10
all the patients had been linked to sick dairy cows or poultry.
1:30:14
The CDC says the Missouri patient has recovered and the
1:30:18
virus did not appear to have spread to close contacts, adding
1:30:21
that the risk of bird flu to the general public remains low.
1:30:25
Aside from Missouri, human cases have been reported in Texas,
1:30:29
Michigan and Colorado. So where
1:30:31
Adam Curry: do you get it from? This? To get it from another
1:30:33
person or a monkey?
1:30:35
John C Dvorak: Well, the way I see it, who cares? It's one guy
1:30:39
out of the blue who got bird flu? There are people getting
1:30:42
sick or getting shot, or there's all kinds of news around. This
1:30:45
is a non story. I'm going to make a prediction, trying to
1:30:49
make it a story. Well, of course, I'm
1:30:51
Adam Curry: going to make a prediction. The on deck for the
1:30:56
next solution for climate change will be roundabouts.
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, yes, okay, you better explain that
1:31:06
one roundabouts
1:31:07
Adam Curry: in.
1:31:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, wait a minute. Let me guess, let me I
1:31:08
can, I guess? Yeah, go for it. You go round about, you know,
1:31:13
roundabout is the thing in the middle of you. They have these
1:31:15
in Berkeley, they put them in for no good reason. Climate.
1:31:20
What are we gonna do? We got four way stops. I don't know
1:31:24
what to do. So then they have the roundabouts, which are more
1:31:27
dangerous, and very few people know how to use them correctly
1:31:30
so, but they have them anyway. So they put one in. That's
1:31:32
because you go round and round and round, it creates a
1:31:35
whirlpool, a vortex, which will then change the weather patterns
1:31:39
and cause hurricanes and tornadoes in areas where they no
1:31:42
longer exist or they never have existed thus far. Well, yeah,
1:31:46
Adam Curry: no. First of all, it doesn't surprise me that
1:31:48
Berkeley has them, and I bet, if you look into it, Berkeley
1:31:51
probably had a study done that said people don't idle at
1:31:57
roundabouts. You see, you're not sitting there with your car
1:32:01
idling, idling, throwing greenhouse gasses into the air,
1:32:07
waiting for either a a four way stop, which is confusing, or for
1:32:13
a traffic light. Roundabouts will be the I'm telling you. You
1:32:17
can write it down on the book. Roundabouts are going to be the
1:32:20
next climate change solution.
1:32:25
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, I find them incredibly annoying.
1:32:29
With that,
1:32:30
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the
1:32:31
morning to you, the man who put the sea in the kids from China,
1:32:34
say hello to my friend on the other end, the one the only Mr.
1:32:37
John.
1:32:42
John C Dvorak: The morning to you. Miss. The morning, all
1:32:43
ships to see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in
1:32:46
the water, and all the Dames and nights out there.
1:32:49
Adam Curry: Hello. Hello there trolls. We have 21 let me count
1:32:52
the trolls for a second I was looking for 2101 this seems on
1:33:02
par. It seems pretty good, particularly for low for
1:33:06
vacation week. What was my what was the cotton gin? What was
1:33:09
the, what was the the peak? What was the, was the peak? I want
1:33:13
the peak was
1:33:14
John C Dvorak: we have one of our producers that's, that's
1:33:18
good. Cotton Gin
1:33:19
Adam Curry: does that? Yeah? Cotton gin? Yeah, cotton gin
1:33:21
hasn't posted it yet. He's probably looking right. He's
1:33:23
John C Dvorak: doing a statistical analysis of the flow
1:33:26
of the flow of roundabouts. He's got all these numbers. It's
1:33:30
like, here it is. He can. He sent me an email condemning me
1:33:33
for questioning his abilities. Well, cotton
1:33:35
Adam Curry: gin is the man 2215, he says
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: was that was the hot, slow. The pillow thing is
1:33:40
low,
1:33:41
Adam Curry: it's low, it's low. And we had a newsletter fail.
1:33:43
What happened?
1:33:46
John C Dvorak: I don't know I but I'm looking at alternative
1:33:49
news. You
1:33:49
Adam Curry: blame you blamed Linux. You said my Linux did it.
1:33:55
John C Dvorak: There is I got a long note. We have a bunch of
1:33:58
guys out there that know what they're doing. And he claims
1:34:01
that the Linux there's a couple of products that Linux servers
1:34:05
use consistently that are spam blockers, and we get that our
1:34:10
sites keep coming up in them.
1:34:13
Adam Curry: That's because people report us. That's what
1:34:15
happens. That's how that's how it happens. Douchebags, you can
1:34:18
get off for what
1:34:19
John C Dvorak: being night, for telling the truth, for getting
1:34:22
to the bottom of things, or for condemning Democrats. Yeah,
1:34:25
there you go.
1:34:27
Adam Curry: I think that must be go. Look at who maintains Linux,
1:34:30
and we understand these trolls are listening in the troll room,
1:34:34
which you can join@trollroom.io or you can use a modern podcast
1:34:38
app, you know, the one that has transcriptions so you can read
1:34:41
along if you're in a foreign country and want to learn some
1:34:43
English and like, Oh, what is this word? Oh, it's good. I get
1:34:46
it because we speak clearly. As John pointed out earlier, by the
1:34:52
way, there was some incompatibility with something
1:34:56
with the fountain modern podcast that fountain for the live.
1:35:00
Show. Because the way it works is when we send out the batch
1:35:02
signal, all these modern podcast apps give you an alert. You tap
1:35:05
on the same place you get your podcast, and then you can listen
1:35:07
right away. And so it was crashing the app. Somehow we
1:35:10
fixed that. So if you were using that before and you bailed out
1:35:13
on us, on the on the last episode, just come back. It
1:35:16
works again. Podcast apps.com,
1:35:20
John C Dvorak: so it's a moving target. It is, it is, it's
1:35:22
Adam Curry: a moving target. But you know that's, that's why it's
1:35:24
worth a Nobel Peace Prize. I heard that this past week,
1:35:30
Spotify deplatformed an inordinate amount of episodes
1:35:34
and podcasts, and I'm getting a list.
1:35:38
John C Dvorak: What's an inordinate mean to you? 10, no,
1:35:41
100, 100 100
1:35:43
Adam Curry: I'd say 100 100 podcasts. That's a lot. And from
1:35:46
what I understand, most of it were, most of these podcasts
1:35:50
were political podcasts.
1:35:53
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'd be toast on that platform.
1:35:55
Adam Curry: You know, the we used to have couple, we're not
1:35:58
John C Dvorak: even really political. We're basically a
1:36:00
political it just so turns out, yeah, yes, that we condemn one
1:36:07
side more than the other. Although we condemn both sides
1:36:10
in
1:36:10
Adam Curry: this election, we certainly do. I mean, I mean,
1:36:12
look the demons. Yeah, when
1:36:14
John C Dvorak: you got some dipshit like Kamala Harris
1:36:16
running for president, people are voting for you. You gotta be
1:36:19
honest. Do you gotta be Oculus. You can't borderline nuts.
1:36:24
Adam Curry: You have to be honest with the people. That's
1:36:26
just, that's just the fact, we used to have a couple of guys
1:36:30
would upload the podcast to YouTube, you remember that? And
1:36:33
then put, you know, just an image in it. Some of them, I
1:36:36
think even, would put in extra images. Yeah, and they stopped
1:36:39
doing they said, you know, I'm getting strikes on my account.
1:36:43
Because some would, someone, would, you know, report, or
1:36:47
whatever reason they take down that episode, and then whoever
1:36:50
was doing that, their their account, would get a strike.
1:36:53
Yeah, so you can see that. So that shows that this is the only
1:36:56
place we are, the only place we can be as, and we don't have
1:37:01
video, so we're struggling over here, people we can't you know,
1:37:04
Linux is against our newsletter. I mean, you got to help us out
1:37:07
here. Doesn't hurt. And you know, what was I reading here?
1:37:15
So I already told you about the nine minutes of ads in front of
1:37:19
the LEX Friedman, oh, so would you consider only fans to be
1:37:24
kind of like value for value?
1:37:28
Unknown: Yeah, I would. Did you hear their numbers?
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: Oh, there, I can't. You're gonna make me
1:37:34
nauseous if you tell me their numbers. I know. I mean, I had
1:37:39
Dana Brunetti wife. Is on onlyfans. No, she's a, she's a
1:37:45
entertainment lawyer. Oh, no, and she the inherit the she's an
1:37:53
heiress to the Bijan fashion fortune.
1:37:56
Unknown: Oh, can she? Can she get me a bag? She, you know, she
1:38:01
John C Dvorak: can't even get me a sweater.
1:38:07
Okay, wait, Alex. Alex is her name.
1:38:09
Unknown: I can just see you in a Bijou sweater.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: So she's, it's Bijon, I think, whatever. And
1:38:18
she's an entertainment lawyer. And she just in passing,
1:38:21
mentioned to me about one of her clients who was having, you
1:38:25
know, an only fans client, person about their their never
1:38:31
mentioned who it was, but it's one of her clients. And she said
1:38:36
she'd made 10 million last year
1:38:39
Adam Curry: only fans revenue this past year, $7 billion
1:38:44
John C Dvorak: it's unbelievable. Maybe, meanwhile,
1:38:47
people bitch about sending us five bucks. Maybe we
1:38:49
Adam Curry: should, maybe we should turn on some cameras,
1:38:51
take off our shirts. You
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: know, my pay off. You never know. You can be
1:38:55
Adam Curry: in the troll room, like, flip your hair. Adam,
1:38:57
okay, no problem. Yeah, I'll do anything at this point.
1:39:01
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, and I'm sure that the ten million girl,
1:39:05
I'm assuming it's a girl, is not the top earner.
1:39:12
Unknown: Oh, no, I'm
1:39:13
John C Dvorak: sure there's I didn't I should ask Alex about
1:39:15
this. But she probably, because she's been into it enough, she
1:39:19
probably knows the top earners, probably 50, 60 million bucks.
1:39:22
Who knows? Well,
1:39:22
Adam Curry: maybe this is a year, maybe we can get some tips
1:39:26
on what to do, because we're doing something wrong.
1:39:30
John C Dvorak: We're not doing anything wrong and we're not
1:39:33
it's just as different type. But there's, there's some people
1:39:36
that have a an allure that we
1:39:39
Adam Curry: lack. Yes, yes. I think we lack several pieces of
1:39:44
allure. Was
1:39:45
John C Dvorak: two in particular, yes, exactly two are
1:39:48
allures that a lot of these girls have, yes, and I think
1:39:53
that accounts for a lot of it.
1:39:55
Adam Curry: Well, we know where the donations are going. The
1:39:57
going to only fans stop spending your money. They. Air, send
1:40:00
something to the best podcast in the universe.
1:40:03
John C Dvorak: You're not getting a date with those women.
1:40:05
Hello,
1:40:07
Adam Curry: John and Adam, however, will come to clean your
1:40:09
house. No problem whatsoever. Instead, we have opted for a
1:40:16
true value for value, mug club media. The future of media is
1:40:21
small people, that's that's how you know. I really believe that.
1:40:25
I think that, you know, you'll have these just pockets, little
1:40:29
pockets of entertainment, and people support them. And I'm
1:40:31
happy with, in general, happy with the support we get. I know
1:40:34
you're never happy, but I'm happy with the support we get.
1:40:37
No, you can't be. I'm amazed. I'm amazed that people support
1:40:40
John C Dvorak: us at all. Yeah, you're, you're shocked.
1:40:43
Sometimes
1:40:44
Adam Curry: I am like, What? What? What this is actually,
1:40:47
still, hey, it'll be when is October, right? Isn't it coming
1:40:52
up
1:40:53
John C Dvorak: the end of October is our anniversary. But
1:40:55
we have before the at the end of this month, we're having our
1:40:58
show 1700 Wow. And that'll be,
1:41:03
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right, it's a seven episodes away. Oh,
1:41:06
that is the end. Yeah, it's
1:41:07
John C Dvorak: coming right up,
1:41:07
Adam Curry: though. So we have 1700 and our 17 year
1:41:11
anniversary. Is that what kind of, what kind of
1:41:14
John C Dvorak: one two punch we usually get some money for
1:41:16
during this period? Is not today, necessarily, but we get
1:41:19
some money. Is
1:41:20
Adam Curry: 17 a particular stone? Or is it a?
1:41:23
John C Dvorak: Is it a stone?
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, like a diamond, Ruby, or is it a,
1:41:28
John C Dvorak: you know, the book of knowledge? Who answered
1:41:30
this question? I don't have 17, but somebody, somebody in the in
1:41:34
the troll room, the few people that are there, one of them
1:41:37
should know what the 17th anniversary stone is. I'd
1:41:40
Adam Curry: like to know. I am indeed quite interested. The 17
1:41:44
whole would be my
1:41:45
Unknown: guess. Kidney No, that
1:41:47
Adam Curry: doesn't sound right. Kid, no,
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: kidney stone is not that'd be good. Interesting
1:41:52
ring, though I like
1:41:53
Adam Curry: it is a prime number, though 17 is a prime
1:41:55
number. So that's, that's, that's, there's something there
1:41:58
John C Dvorak: that is a, that's a big deal. Yeah.
1:42:02
Adam Curry: Caroline. What Caroline? Carnelian, carnelian,
1:42:06
or Carnelian
1:42:08
John C Dvorak: Carnelian? Yeah, Carnelian. Those are the little
1:42:11
red stones. They actually have met the beaches over here in San
1:42:13
Francisco, San Francisco in the off the peninsula, not the
1:42:17
peninsula, but Marin County beaches have Cornelius in the
1:42:22
sand that you can pick up as
1:42:25
Adam Curry: you walk along. So it's not a very valuable stone,
1:42:27
is what you're telling Not really. None
1:42:29
John C Dvorak: of it's just sitting there. It's pretty
1:42:32
though.
1:42:32
Adam Curry: So the way it works, and you've already heard some
1:42:35
boots on the ground, and we have people we can call upon who help
1:42:38
us, because if there's one thing about the best podcasting
1:42:41
universe, we have more and better producers than any other
1:42:45
media outlet known to man. That's why we can say in the
1:42:48
universe and everywhere, somebody has some special
1:42:52
knowledge about that one thing. And I think we've successfully
1:42:56
trained people that they are producers, not listeners, and
1:42:59
they need to support us with their time with their talent or
1:43:01
with their treasure. And part of that is, of course, our Dutch
1:43:05
masters who create artwork for every single new show. There was
1:43:09
a there was a guy who was looking for some logo work on
1:43:12
the podcasting 2.0 development group. And he says, Adam, I
1:43:16
really love, I really love the artwork you guys do. Who do you
1:43:20
use?
1:43:23
Unknown: Like, who do we use
1:43:26
John C Dvorak: listening to the show? You figure it out. It
1:43:28
really
1:43:28
Adam Curry: is, I send them a link to no agenda Art
1:43:30
generator.com which is where anyone who has talent or not at
1:43:34
all can upload art. And sometimes the no talents or just
1:43:38
the prompt jockeys win. And quite big actually, although I
1:43:41
was looking at the Latina actually asked me, Do you still
1:43:43
have the stats? Yeah, it's still nick the rat, Martin JJ, and
1:43:47
then comes Darren O'Neill, and those guys are still at the top
1:43:51
for all the episodes they did. And Nick uploads something from
1:43:55
time to time. Rarely he hasn't really hit it. And Martin JJ, is
1:43:59
he still alive? Is he still around? I don't see him any.
1:44:02
Yeah, he
1:44:02
John C Dvorak: posts on mastodon. Oh, he
1:44:04
Adam Curry: does. Yeah, he How do you know you're not on
1:44:08
mastodon? How do you know
1:44:09
John C Dvorak: this is so I'm referring back to the last time
1:44:12
it was on Mastodon, which was about a year ago, and he was
1:44:14
posting quite a bit. Okay, I guess I have him confused with
1:44:19
someone else, but I don't think so.
1:44:20
Adam Curry: I did hear from my birthday. I did hear from
1:44:22
pelker. So he's still around. Oh,
1:44:24
John C Dvorak: good as I wonder if he listens to the show. I
1:44:26
Adam Curry: think so. Well, maybe not. I don't know. I don't
1:44:29
know. Anyway, our
1:44:32
John C Dvorak: he found a new lady and she told him to stop
1:44:35
listening. As you think that was it. That's possible. That's
1:44:37
possible, very common. Yeah, guys that do anything that women
1:44:41
tell them to
1:44:42
Adam Curry: Yes, see, true fans, $7 billion
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: yes, perfect example, only fans, not true
1:44:50
fans. Man, there's not like true fans, though it'd be good. We
1:44:55
can start that. No, it's
1:44:56
Adam Curry: already a new podcast app, true fans. True
1:44:59
fans. FM, that's why it was on my brain. You saw it? Yeah, past
1:45:06
my brain. Yeah. We want to thank correct a record who has been
1:45:09
around for a long time, who brought us the artwork for
1:45:11
Episode 1692 we titled that one salted ducks, and we just
1:45:16
laughed at this one. It was Putin holding up some cash.
1:45:20
Yeah.
1:45:20
John C Dvorak: We normally don't like putting politicians into
1:45:22
the arts. We don't make that clear. So we don't have a bunch
1:45:25
of it happening. We
1:45:26
Adam Curry: don't. But this was funny. It made sense in context
1:45:29
of the of the tenant media scandal. And even had plastered
1:45:34
over there value for value. We like the use of the Russian, you
1:45:38
know, the Cyrillic kind of font. So
1:45:40
John C Dvorak: we chose it, yes, yeah, I think, I think that made
1:45:43
it full, full for Cyrillic Yes. Font worked at the top.
1:45:48
Adam Curry: There were a couple of other decent tries. There was
1:45:53
data did niet agenda, which had kind of an Uncle Sam puppet,
1:45:58
also with the faux Cyrillic font. Darren O'Neill did a, he
1:46:03
tried, tried a good job there with the podcaster vending
1:46:07
machine by a podcaster, but didn't quite hit home. Let me
1:46:12
see, Darren also did a free speech troll. No, the no Russian
1:46:18
money here, another corrector record, a couple of manosphears,
1:46:21
which were which were nice, but there was really nothing. It
1:46:25
just wasn't there was a comic strip blogger did a but insert
1:46:30
Russian money here, and again, he doesn't have the the prompt
1:46:34
skills that Darren O'Neill has, because the lettering just
1:46:38
doesn't look like it's actually on the jeans, yeah, you know.
1:46:43
And somehow Darren has figured that out. I don't know what he's
1:46:45
using. And by the way, we've
1:46:47
John C Dvorak: looked at his prompts, and it's like he's
1:46:50
really good. I mean, I think I don't know where I get the sense
1:46:53
that Darren first got a clue from comic strip blogger,
1:46:58
possibly, and then took it, took it in a new direction. God, it's
1:47:04
like having the it's a knack thing you get, you kind of get a
1:47:07
feeling for it, and you can just start throwing requests at the
1:47:14
AI, and its response correctly,
1:47:17
Adam Curry: open AI.
1:47:18
John C Dvorak: It may also be, I don't know what he's using for a
1:47:20
system. There's so many of these
1:47:22
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, there are. Well open AI is now
1:47:25
discussing their new pricing model for their next this is
1:47:28
going to be the the large language model that really
1:47:31
works, the really, really good one this time. It'll really,
1:47:34
really, really, really work. Do you know what they're going to
1:47:37
charge per month?
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: $100 $2,000
1:47:42
Adam Curry: why? What? Yep, yeah, for, I think it's called
1:47:47
Strawberry. Is there next? The next release?
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not gonna work. It'll finally
1:47:53
Adam Curry: make sense with the amount of investment that's gone
1:47:56
into it. Yes. The the new reasoning focused LLM dubbed
1:48:01
strawberry, and a new flagship LLM called Orion. It's finally
1:48:08
gonna work. You can alert Andrew Horowitz. He loves this stuff.
1:48:11
It. It tells him exactly what to do in the market,
1:48:16
John C Dvorak: and I'll bet it's so accurate at picking stocks.
1:48:20
Yes,
1:48:21
Adam Curry: he won't have to go to work anymore. This beautiful
1:48:26
anyway. Thank you very much. Correct a record, but thank you
1:48:31
to all of our artists, all of them, just like correct a
1:48:33
record, art masters Dutch fine and Masters of Fine Art. And you
1:48:39
can join that Legion by going to no agenda, artgenerator.com,
1:48:43
create an account if you don't have one, upload it. You know,
1:48:45
we look at everything and we appreciate and we'll be honest,
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we're going to help you with your skills. So there people
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works good, yes, now he works for daily wire. He does well, I
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think he started doing political illustration art, yeah. And now
1:49:14
he's doing video stuff. Hey, he's got quite a career over
1:49:17
there.
1:49:18
John C Dvorak: Spunk, so good for him. He's a talented guy. I
1:49:21
actually prefer his fine art. But
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Adam Curry: yeah, I miss him. Do all this. I miss him as long as
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he's, you know, once he went over there, yeah, he
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John C Dvorak: wasn't, he was he, he, when he was doing stuff
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for the show, it was like, let me get a couple of wins here,
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and I'm out.
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Unknown: You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: Then we roll up on Susan, Dame Susan of the salt
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salner, s, o, l, D, N, E, R, wheel. I don't know what quite
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what that means. I don't know either, but she is Dame Susan
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from McKinney, Texas, $100.04 and she wrote a note in with a
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Thanks for all the thanks and all the best. Dame Susan of the
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Unknown: you very sweet. You've got karma.
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Adam Curry: We moved to Sir JK, in Green Bay, Wisconsin. He's in
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De Pere, Wisconsin, 333 dot 33 one of our favorite amounts. We
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love all the threes. Thank you, John. And by the way, did you
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notice all of a sudden, there's a video going around of all the
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30 threes, 33 cases from the pandemic. Did you get tagged?
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Yeah, I'm like, we, we were on this when it actually happened.
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Now, people like, Wow. Have you seen this? Like,
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John C Dvorak: yeah, we've been talking about 30 threes for
1:53:05
1515, years, minimum. You used to do a section on this show
1:53:11
called the magic number, yeah. And you would read the 33
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references for about 10 minutes, and then it got such a to be
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such a long segment, you just stopped doing it.
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Adam Curry: But also we had boring we had super cuts and
1:53:26
everything during the pandemic. Manners. Just
1:53:29
John C Dvorak: be pre pandemic with this, doing it forever.
1:53:32
We're all over it. But no, we, of course, we, we set the stage
1:53:36
for other people to take advantage of the situation. So
1:53:39
what are you gonna do that's all
1:53:40
Adam Curry: right. That's why we are the best podcast in the
1:53:42
universe. I
1:53:42
John C Dvorak: think some reason, well, that among other
1:53:46
things, sir.
1:53:47
Adam Curry: JK says, Thank you, John and Adam, I stepped away
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for a bit, but I know it is time to come back. Too many 30 threes
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telling me a donation was in order. Prosperity and abundance.
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Karma will be greatly appreciated. I'm a casualty of
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the recent economic downturn, as I was downsized back in July. So
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I'd like a jingle rubbleizer plus an r2, d2, karma. Thank you
1:54:07
again. John Adam, for your dedication to media
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deconstruction, love and let sir. JK in Green Bay, Night of
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the entertaining kerfuffle
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Unknown: India. Mike standby,
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3333 3333 33
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barbaliser out.
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You've got karma,
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John C Dvorak: sir. Harry Pilgrim, our buddy,
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Fredericksburg, Virginia. He
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Adam Curry: has been around with this show for a since the
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original Hot Pockets tour. Harry Pilgrim, good
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John C Dvorak: to hear you met him. Didn't you sure did the Hot
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Pockets sure did the sad puppy would make all nights and Dames
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Rappahannock, that's right,
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Adam Curry: sir Corby, whoever that is, is in Hamilton, Ohio,
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333. 33 weird. He says, things are getting weird. Really weird.
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This does not count, by the way, towards our weird count. Love
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the show. Sir Corby, thank you. Thank
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John C Dvorak: you very much. Brother still stuck at six and
1:55:28
four. Now it's actually
1:55:29
Adam Curry: seven five the latest. Count, seven for me,
1:55:33
five for you.
1:55:37
John C Dvorak: Game, wind chimes, partridge in San Rafael,
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California, 333 33 Yeah, we had a good, goodly number of 333.
1:55:45
Today. Nice, nice to see in the morning to you from the other
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side of the San Francisco Bay, boots on the ground. Big Pharma
1:55:52
is at it again in California, trying to shut down compounding
1:55:55
pharmacies. I always thought they were already shut down in
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California in a public hearing this Thursday, this California
1:56:01
State Board of Pharmacy, the BOP is proposing regulations to
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block patient access to safe treatments like gluco
1:56:12
gluctathion, vitamin B 12, vitamin B 12. You just buy that
1:56:18
over the counter. What's the deal? And other infusions. I
1:56:21
guess it's because somebody wants to blend it together and
1:56:23
have mortar and pestle, heaven forbid. Nationwide, cancer is
1:56:27
the leading cause of death among firefighters. A glutathione is a
1:56:32
natural antioxidant that prevents cancer by repairing
1:56:35
cells damaged by pollution, stress and harmful chemicals.
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I've
1:56:38
Adam Curry: heard about this from firefighters. They you,
1:56:40
they take it.
1:56:43
John C Dvorak: This is another, yeah, when you get there, you
1:56:45
fight, you're gonna get that that smoke has got to be nasty.
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Just breathe any at any time, let alone over and over. This is
1:56:53
another facet of our war on compounding pharmacies, and
1:56:56
that's who makes these life saving treatments. I encourage
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the no agenda nation to learn more@stopthebopp.com that's s,
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fight back. Demand better for our courageous firefighters.
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Let's stop the bop. Okay,
1:57:23
Adam Curry: that was good point. I'm all in Up next we have, we
1:57:30
have here. We have Kenny Stevens, who sent in a note, hi,
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$300 Hi, hi, just Hi, my daughter, Allison, who listens
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to your show, asked me to listen. I am a loyal listener,
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and sometimes listen to your show multiple times. Is that
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each episode?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think that's what he means. Some
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people listen to the show more than once the same show. Living
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Adam Curry: in the blue state of Rhode Island, my vote never
1:58:01
really means anything, but I do donate to various races outside
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my state enclosed find my check for $300 we appreciate the
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checks, by the way, this underappreciated form of people
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in other countries laugh at our check system. No, these stupid
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Americans, they still use paper checks.
1:58:23
John C Dvorak: I know, let's go digital. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I think paper checks are fantastic. I love them.
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John C Dvorak: It's a small document that that promises a
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bunch of money to you via bank, as the check is a middle man.
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It's a great way to go do business like
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Adam Curry: It's like printing your own money. It's a very
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powerful feeling. I like it when, when you sign a check,
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here you go. I promise you this money in close by my check is
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$300 regards, Kenny Stevens an alias. All right, Kenny, thank
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you very much. Appreciate it. Appreciate the check in
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John C Dvorak: Rhode Island. He has to be an alias. House.
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You're not a Democrat.
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Unknown: You're dead.
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Happy eighth birthday to my wonderful human resource, Layla.
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Please add her to the list she's added and give her a biscuit.
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Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday, and
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John C Dvorak: he came in with $223 or tooth fairy, $200.02
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Adam Curry: a palindrome. Austin McCullough from Hudson,
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Wisconsin. Refer to email. Hashtag, rates, 101, I looked.
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I'm sure you looked. I did you receive an email? No, I hate it
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when that happens. Well,
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John C Dvorak: let me take one more look. I never looked under
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right? So you want it so you can
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Adam Curry: send that to notes, N, O, T, E, S, notes at No.
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Agenda show.net, by the way, while you're at it, go to no
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elements, chapters, transcripts, it's all there. It's a very
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John C Dvorak: similar title. Under that title, no, no, I'd
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Adam Curry: look too. So resend it to us. We'll make good if we
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need to. Austin. Thank you very much, and we might as well like
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give them a double up karma. Then for the lost note, you've
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got karma.
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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Adam Curry: And that wraps up our executive and Associate
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Executive producers for Episode 1693 on our way to 1700 That'll
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be exciting to celebrate 1700 episodes with you, John, 1700 we
2:01:09
were talking, we were talking about relationships the other
2:01:13
day. And like, that's funny, John and I don't really have a
2:01:15
relationship. We just, I guess we have a working relationship,
2:01:22
but
2:01:22
John C Dvorak: we just, we're we talk professionally, yes,
2:01:26
Adam Curry: but after, I mean, I've been with you in three
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years, and remember, four more to go, I will have been with you
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longer than any of my marriages.
2:01:36
John C Dvorak: Well, that's to be expected,
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much, and thank you for being producers of episode 1693
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Unknown: our formula is this, we go out. We hit people in the
2:02:10
mouth. Shut
2:02:19
up. Slay. Shut up. Shut up. Slave,
2:02:25
shut up. Slave, shut up. All right, get
2:02:28
John C Dvorak: one international clip out of the way.
2:02:31
Adam Curry: Oh boy. International clip riots
2:02:34
John C Dvorak: in France. France the new prime minister.
2:02:36
Everyone's bent out of shape about this guy? Yes,
2:02:41
Adam Curry: is it France? New pm protests? Is that that would
2:02:44
Unknown: be itchy, angry demonstrators from the left
2:02:46
turned out across France to protest President Emmanuel
2:02:50
Macron decision to appoint a Conservative Prime Minister
2:02:53
rather than a candidate from among their ranks and Paris.
2:02:56
Eleanor Beardsley reports, while no party got a majority, the
2:03:00
leftist coalition got the most votes in a snap legislative
2:03:03
elections this summer. Voters on the left say they're the ones
2:03:09
who kept the far right from taking power. Yet their votes
2:03:13
are not being respected in the choice of the new prime
2:03:15
minister. They accused Macron of stealing the election. Macron's
2:03:19
choice was 70 year old Michel bounier, a veteran politician
2:03:24
who he sees as a steady hand for the country after divisive
2:03:27
elections. But protesters are demanding a prime minister from
2:03:31
the left and a political program that will begin with bringing
2:03:35
the retirement age back down to 62 they say their protests will
2:03:39
continue.
2:03:40
Adam Curry: Well, this is and actually, I have a follow on
2:03:42
clip to this, because I've been following this as well. This is
2:03:44
bull crap, because it was really the far right who got most of
2:03:49
the votes, but the left, the entire left and center said, Oh
2:03:55
no, we're not going to let you into govern we're going to all
2:03:59
be together. And even though we hate each other and can't decide
2:04:02
on anything, we just don't want you far right to run the
2:04:05
country. And so then, and then they go out and which, I think
2:04:08
this is actually a kind of a good choice
2:04:13
John C Dvorak: for the guy's pretty uh even keeled, yeah, I
2:04:16
think it's a good choice too.
2:04:17
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, he, by the way, far right is bull crap,
2:04:22
because this guy, actually, I have a who is Michel Barnier.
2:04:26
Clip. Who is
2:04:27
Unknown: Michel Barnier, France's new prime minister.
2:04:30
Michel Barnier is a member of the Republicans, a right wing
2:04:33
political party. The 73 year old is set to be the oldest Prime
2:04:36
Minister in modern France's Fifth Republic history,
2:04:39
replacing 34 year old Gabriel Ital, who was the youngest
2:04:42
Barnier, is a seasoned politician with a diverse
2:04:45
background as a foreign agriculture and Environment
2:04:47
Minister in numerous governments in the world of European
2:04:50
politics. However, he is better known for his former role as the
2:04:53
EU's Brexit negotiator, which earned him the nickname Monsieur
2:04:57
Brexit as Brussels top negotiator. Barnier made a name
2:05:00
for himself as a strong defender of EU institutions against the
2:05:04
UK's nationalist Brexit politicians like Boris Johnson
2:05:07
in 2021 however, there came a shift when Barnier ran for the
2:05:11
presidency against Macron, transitioning from a pro EU
2:05:14
politician to embracing a French nationalist stance. He advocated
2:05:19
for the superiority of French sovereignty over the EU,
2:05:22
offering to develop a non EU immigration policy. He also
2:05:25
opposed the powers of the European Court of Justice and
2:05:28
the European Court of Human Rights over the French states.
2:05:30
Barney's Republicans party only has 39 deputies out of 577 seats
2:05:35
in the National Assembly, and will need the support of far
2:05:38
right leader Marine Le Pen's national rally party Le Pen has
2:05:41
said she would wait for Bonnie's first policy speech in front of
2:05:44
Parliament to decide whether to back him. If she does, it would
2:05:47
be a far right backed government under Macron. Far Right. He has
2:05:50
long portrayed himself as the last defense against the rise of
2:05:53
Le Pen. The question is, has Macron handed the far right a
2:05:57
major win? Far Right,
2:06:01
Adam Curry: you know, the French should be delighted,
2:06:03
John C Dvorak: guys of he's a French guy. He's French. Yes,
2:06:06
he's for France. He's a, you know, the, yeah, he's a,
2:06:10
basically, a French guy.
2:06:12
Adam Curry: He they should be delighted. Should be delighted
2:06:14
with him. No,
2:06:15
John C Dvorak: they're the globalists, aren't they're they
2:06:17
hate, they hate the French, they hate the they hate all these
2:06:20
countries, they want to be one giant, you know Reich,
2:06:24
Adam Curry: exactly, and and if Trump wins, you're going to see
2:06:30
the same thing happen in the United States. You're going to
2:06:33
see the left nut jobs, the globalists come out and go
2:06:37
insane. I can guarantee it. There was always Trump doesn't
2:06:41
win, it's gonna be civil war. Now, if Trump wins, they're all
2:06:45
gonna go ape crap, or, I should say ape shit. Really
2:06:50
John C Dvorak: ape crap. I'm so show titles. I'm
2:06:53
Adam Curry: so used to saying crap instead of shit that I said
2:06:56
ape crap doesn't sound right. Don't you think
2:07:01
John C Dvorak: absolutely, there's no doubt about it, that
2:07:05
they're gonna kind of a replay of 2016 although it's gonna have
2:07:08
to change some of their strategies, because we're
2:07:10
getting sick of the old arguments. And the people that
2:07:13
are that are coming out, are the ones that I always retweeting.
2:07:17
Are they, you know, crazy looking people that are look
2:07:21
like women or guys. You don't even know what sex they are, and
2:07:24
they got the big nose rings right in the nostril, nothing
2:07:27
right in the middle. I want a cow.
2:07:29
Adam Curry: How many of those people do you really think there
2:07:31
are?
2:07:34
John C Dvorak: I don't think there's that many. No, but they
2:07:37
have a there's not a lot, but they have a high profile, and
2:07:40
then they're fun to mock. And there's a lot of teachers that
2:07:45
fall into that category, which is really a scary part. That's,
2:07:48
Adam Curry: it's that's distressing. Okay, I'm gonna
2:07:52
walk into your beat. I can't help it, but this is it. Is your
2:07:56
beat, and I'm taking it down to the depths you have not been
2:08:00
able to go before because Kristen Welker, who doesn't know
2:08:04
her for Meet the Press, I
2:08:06
John C Dvorak: was watching her this morning, and you did those
2:08:08
hands of hers. You're like an old black laborer. They're huge
2:08:13
and they're they're not made up at all. You know, you're
2:08:16
supposed to do hand makeup to lighten them up or something.
2:08:19
Yeah,
2:08:19
Adam Curry: it does yellow. They
2:08:21
John C Dvorak: don't do anything with their hands.
2:08:24
Adam Curry: We're looking at this purely from a television
2:08:27
production standpoint, yeah, yeah, obviously I don't care.
2:08:29
Well, I'm just making sure everybody but
2:08:31
John C Dvorak: it is distressing to watch it
2:08:34
Adam Curry: either don't use your hands or yellow. Her up,
2:08:37
was what John just said. Okay,
2:08:41
John C Dvorak: well, they yell her, they yellow her up, but
2:08:43
they don't do anything with their hands.
2:08:45
Adam Curry: I know which I, you know, I'm
2:08:47
John C Dvorak: very pale. So when they, when I was doing TV,
2:08:49
yeah, they would make me up your hands and do the same. I always,
2:08:53
you always tell them that you have to tell the makeup artist
2:08:55
to do it, because they rather not. But you tell them you get
2:09:00
through some of my hands because, because if you're, if
2:09:02
you're made up, and you're darkened up a little bit, and
2:09:04
then you lift your hand, it looks like a skeletal hand was
2:09:08
super white, you know. It doesn't work. And so, yeah, and
2:09:11
they make up ours always, oh yes, yes, yes, that's a good
2:09:14
idea, you know.
2:09:15
Adam Curry: And by the way, these days, I mean, a lot has
2:09:18
changed since we were in television, John, in fact, the
2:09:21
biggest change is we used to have blue screen. Now it's green
2:09:24
screen. People, that's how old we are. I remember when it was
2:09:28
blue screen,
2:09:31
John C Dvorak: but also screen was the original.
2:09:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, the original key, key color. But now,
2:09:39
nowadays they don't have pancake makeup. They have spray. It's a
2:09:44
spray on, and you just go and spray right on. So they could
2:09:48
easily spray the hands. It'll take 30 seconds, 30 seconds to
2:09:53
spray the hands. Anyway, yeah, so I am diving into a trend,
2:09:57
which you identified months and months ago. Ago as something
2:10:01
new, something that is probably well, that has always been the
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question, is it even constitutional? And here's the
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opening salvo, 54
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Unknown: year old father, Colin gray faces 14 charges, including
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four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of
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second degree murder and eight counts of Cruelty to Children.
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The director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation saying
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the father, quote, knowingly allowed his son to possess a
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weapon. Law enforcement sources telling NBC News he gifted his
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son an AR 15 style rifle after both of them were interviewed in
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May of 2023 by the FBI in connection with threats to carry
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out a school shooting. Colin Gray's arrest comes just months
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after James and Jennifer Crumbley became the first
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parents to be convicted for a school shooting committed by
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their child. Their son killed four students in Oxford,
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Michigan in 2021 so
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Adam Curry: you identified this right away as a new trend, which
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is lock the parents up for the things that the kids have done
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and we've seen
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John C Dvorak: and I to go further, I I believe it to be a
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racist trend, because I think the long term target is the
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black family.
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Adam Curry: That's right, because about that, yes, I'd
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forgotten
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John C Dvorak: about this, and I believe this is just opening
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salvos. So you can say, Well, we did it the whites, and now we
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can do it the blacks, and they're going to go when they go
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when they go after the black family, especially those single
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moms who raise a bunch of kids that aren't are not well well
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behaved. Let's put it that way. There. It's going to cause
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issues, but they've got, they're going to, they're going to back
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it up with it, doing it to the white families, at least one or
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two more. Then, then you're going to see it happened, and
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it's going to cause nothing but trouble.
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Adam Curry: So of course, this was politicized. I'm actually
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