0:00
John C Dvorak: Wow. Pre crime.
0:01
Unknown: Adam curry.
0:03
Chelsea Dvorak, Sunday,
0:04
Adam Curry: September 8, 2024
this is your award winning give
0:07
our nation media assassination
Episode 1693
0:10
Unknown: this is no agenda,
countering
0:14
Adam Curry: Canadian
disinformation and broadcasting
0:17
live from the cruise ship,
capital of Mexico, just north of
0:20
Puerto Rita in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry and
0:23
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where the NFL
0:26
season has begun, and it's more
gay than ever. I'm John C
0:29
Dvorak. Buzzkill,
0:34
Adam Curry: wait a minute,
wasn't the first game in Brazil
0:38
John C Dvorak: that was on
Friday? Yeah. Oh. Was
0:40
Adam Curry: that the first game
of the season? And why was the
0:42
first
0:42
John C Dvorak: game? Was the
night before. Was Thursday. Oh,
0:45
it was the chiefs. And you said
beating up on the Ravens. You
0:48
said
0:49
Adam Curry: it was more gay than
ever.
0:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, one of the
quarterbacks of one of the teams
0:53
that they talk a lot about is
wearing a red fingernail polish.
0:57
I don't know what that means,
but it just seems a little
1:00
Adam Curry: unusual. Well, I can
tell they are. They're
1:03
alienating their core audience.
1:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I don't
think so. Everyone's got to be
1:08
open,
1:11
Adam Curry: yeah, especially the
opening of the show. All right,
1:13
hey, we are a value for value
podcast. That means that we give
1:18
you this show completely free,
open, no pay walls, no hurdles,
1:23
no levels, no no mandatory
subscription, no premium content
1:28
behind the firewall,
1:30
John C Dvorak: it's all premium.
No mugs for sale.
1:33
Adam Curry: Although I have
started calling what we're doing
1:35
mug club media. It's mug club
media, everybody. I'm looking
1:41
for a word that's the opposite
of mass media, and it's value
1:46
for value based. And the best I
could come up with is mug club
1:51
media. I don't think it works.
1:53
John C Dvorak: It's no good.
It's
1:54
Unknown: no good.
1:56
Adam Curry: Well, unlike Lex
Friedman, you know, the start of
2:01
his interview with Trump, he had
nine minutes of ads at the top
2:08
of the show.
2:10
John C Dvorak: You know, if I
was him, I would do the same
2:13
thing.
2:14
Adam Curry: But if you were an
advertiser, you'd probably be
2:16
upset. No one was because they
2:19
John C Dvorak: jammed them all
together, and it was just they
2:21
got weaker and weaker in terms
of their impact. Is that what
2:23
you're saying?
2:24
Adam Curry: No, I'm saying that
that's what the fast forward
2:26
button is for. No one's gonna
listen to those ads. Everyone
2:30
John C Dvorak: goes, yeah,
there's that. That's a fact,
2:32
yeah.
2:34
Adam Curry: So I don't know. We
also are not getting any tenant
2:39
media money, which, by the way,
I've done a little bit of race.
2:42
What tenant Media Go? Know It?
Yes, you do. That's the, that's
2:47
the whole pool boy and Reuben
and that whole outfit.
2:52
John C Dvorak: No, the Russian
money. Yeah, well,
2:55
Adam Curry: I'm calling it
tenant media money. Oh,
3:00
John C Dvorak: confused.
3:01
Adam Curry: I've delved into
this now. Oh
3:04
John C Dvorak: yeah, numbers,
you say, you know, maybe, maybe
3:08
we just said a little more
things. Pro Russian, hello.
3:12
Adam Curry: Hello, Comrade
Dvorak. How are you doing this
3:15
morning?
3:16
John C Dvorak: Or, I'm sorry,
net, so I think so I
3:19
Adam Curry: figured out what was
happening, what a Canar this
3:22
was, and I say Canar with a
reason. So what happened here is
3:28
this tenant media is Lauren
Chen, or whatever her name is,
3:31
and her husband, their plan, I
figured out their plan. Their
3:35
plan was to build their own
YouTube channel into a
3:39
powerhouse. Exactly. Yeah,
building a powerhouse. And of
3:48
course, they did this with the
Russian money. They knew exactly
3:51
what they were doing, and so
they figured, well, we'll give,
3:54
we'll give these guys, you know,
this team over here, as far as
3:57
we know, only
3:58
John C Dvorak: I should stop you
and mention that for people that
4:01
you to get a background on this,
which we're not obviously giving
4:04
you at this point, go to the
last show and listen to it,
4:06
because we have a rather
elaborate discussion of this
4:09
particular thing. So you may
have to listen to,
4:13
Adam Curry: I think most people
kind of know what's going on.
4:16
Maybe,
4:17
John C Dvorak: geez, I'm just
mentioning that. Okay,
4:20
Adam Curry: all right? Well,
stop now and go back and listen
4:22
to the last episode. And how
come you missed it anyway. So
4:26
the plan, the plan was to
because, you know, there's a lot
4:31
of people out there saying, oh,
pool board taking just some
4:34
great memes. They've got,
they've got Tim pool instead of
4:38
a beanie on his head. He's got
one of those Russian hats, furry
4:42
hats. They've got a cat. Yeah,
they've got him on, you know,
4:45
Putin Nate with a bear, bare
chest on the horse. They've got
4:49
little Tim there in front of
him, bare chested on the horse.
4:53
Really funny meme, yeah,
4:55
John C Dvorak: you're asking for
trouble, but it's who me. No,
4:58
him. Oh, yeah. Well. Or anybody
who take, take a bunch of
5:02
Russian money, do some
promotional Russian material.
5:05
Even though you might not know
it, you're asking for trouble.
5:08
It's just the way it is. I don't
5:09
Adam Curry: think he really
knew. I mean, of course, all
5:13
right, I guess it was some
Belgian guy. But the plan this,
5:19
this is what I'm getting to the
plan was for them to, you know,
5:22
license some, some hot content,
by the way, no agenda show
5:27
anybody. They could have
licensed it from us, and with
5:31
that, to build up this channel,
which really only had a couple
5:34
1000 subscribers, because, you
know, little do they understand
5:38
of how YouTube works. So it was,
yeah, you have to fake it. Yeah,
5:41
it was really this channel. You
have to
5:43
John C Dvorak: get some you have
to get some kid in there, who
5:45
knows what he's doing to jack up
the numbers. Exactly. You
5:49
remember 1220, 12.
5:53
Adam Curry: Yeah, Coney, 2012
exactly,
5:55
John C Dvorak: those numbers are
fake.
5:56
Adam Curry: So, so that failed,
but, but, you know, as I look a
6:01
little bit further into the
story this whole thing, it's
6:05
Canadians who are doing this.
This is Canadian disinformation.
6:09
This is not from Russia. We
should be putting sanctions in
6:14
place against Canada. The
Canadian
6:16
Unknown: owned social media
channel that the US Justice
6:18
Department alleges as a key part
of a Russian influence scheme is
6:22
now off YouTube. YouTube said
tenant media violated its
6:26
community guidelines. Tenant
media was founded by Canadian
6:29
Lauren Chen and her husband,
Liam Donovan. Last year, YouTube
6:33
is also taking down four
separate media channels owned by
6:36
Chen. Chen is a right wing
commentator with posts
6:38
supporting Donald Trump and
siding with Russia over the war
6:41
in Ukraine. US Department of
Justice, indictment doesn't name
6:45
Chen or her husband, and they
don't face charges. But as the
6:48
CBC Evan Dyer tells us, tenant
is allegedly central to a
6:51
Kremlin scheme to use millions
of dollars to influence American
6:55
public opinion and the US
presidential election. A
6:58
US federal indictment says those
opinions were bought and paid
7:01
for by the Kremlin, which
funneled ten million in part
7:04
through roaming millennial, a
Quebec company belonging to
7:07
Canadian influencer Lauren Chen
and her husband, Liam Donovan,
7:11
who then used her Tennessee
company tenant media to pay Maga
7:15
influencers like Dave Rubin,
Benny Johnson, Tim pool and
7:18
Canadian Lauren southern to
spread the Kremlin's pro Trump,
7:22
anti Ukraine messages.
7:24
We have not seen an adversary
attempt to influence an American
7:30
election to this degree
7:33
before this former
7:35
FBI Director of
counterintelligence says the
7:37
Russian president will be
infuriated to see this operation
7:40
rolled up.
7:41
The message the US government is
sending with these indictments
7:44
is we see you. We're on to you,
and we're going to call this
7:49
out. The charging documents make
it quite clear that they knew
7:52
who they were dealing with. So
7:54
far, though, the FBI has charged
only Russians, not the
7:57
Canadians, and Americans charge
7:59
Adam Curry: the Canadians. This
is horse crap.
8:02
John C Dvorak: What Russia's did
they charge? And how would they
8:04
know? Well, that's the it's the
this is a very dubious
8:07
situation.
8:08
Adam Curry: The Russians they
charge are the ones who were
8:10
sending the money to the
Canadians. This is Russia and
8:14
Canada colluding to interfere
with our elections. And I want a
8:17
wall stop these Canadians
8:21
John C Dvorak: this? Well,
you're, you're, I think you're
8:24
correct in the, in the in your
being irked by the fact that the
8:29
Canadians are seemingly getting
off scot free when it comes to
8:33
who's really behind this, whose
idea was it? Was it the
8:36
Canadians to begin with? It
sounds like it.
8:38
Adam Curry: It sounds like it to
me. And I think there should be
8:40
sanctions. Throw them off.
Swift,
8:44
Unknown: let's get rid of him.
8:46
John C Dvorak: Let's throw the
cannon off. Swift.
8:49
Adam Curry: So Tucker is on the
road with his show, which is
8:53
quite entertaining. I might say
it's basically the vote for
8:56
Donald Trump show, but with
interesting guests, and he had
9:00
Vivek, whoever he was, he's man
we, I wish we could do it. He's
9:05
got, like, 1000s of people in
these arenas and the just, he
9:08
just sits down with a guest and
like, boom, done. Buy some
9:11
merch. See you later. What a
gig, what a gig. Is good.
9:15
John C Dvorak: It's good up to
it.
9:16
Adam Curry: I'm happy. Yeah, no,
I'm happy for him. So this comes
9:19
up on, on this, I guess you call
it a show with Vivek, but
9:23
Unknown: this idea of Russian
election interference in
9:25
particular, let's trace the
history of that in each of the
9:28
last two elections. Let's go to
2016 the allegation of Russian
9:34
election interference to support
Donald Trump. When you double
9:37
click on that, look at what was
the actual foreign election
9:40
interference there. It was
actually US election
9:44
interference in the US election
through the Steele dossier, but
9:48
laundered through the narrative
of actual Russian interference.
9:52
And actually there was a Russian
intermediary to perpetuate that
9:55
attempt at election interference
about Trump's Russia collusion
9:58
hoax. That's in 2016 Right now
we get to 2020. Again, domestic
10:03
election interference is the
systematic suppression of the
10:07
Hunter Biden laptop story that
didn't happen by Russian
10:09
companies. Didn't happen by the
Russian government. It happened
10:12
by us social media companies
acting out the direction
10:15
Canadian deep state actors in
the US government that
10:19
suppressed probably a story
whose suppression changed the
10:22
outcome of the 2020 presidential
election. But again, what did
10:25
they say?
10:26
They said, No, no, this
10:27
was Russian disinformation,
sure. So now you're seeing a
10:30
pattern in 2016
10:31
John C Dvorak: there's domestic
Yes, are you telling me people
10:34
actually paid money to go into a
big auditorium to listen to
10:38
this?
10:39
Unknown: Oh yeah, they love it.
10:41
John C Dvorak: I hear it on TV
for free.
10:44
Adam Curry: People like live
entertainment people,
10:47
Unknown: oh, oh, I'm
10:49
John C Dvorak: sorry you're
categorizing this lecture as
10:51
entertainment. Okay, so now
10:54
Unknown: you're seeing a
pattern. In 2016 there's
10:56
domestic attempts at election
interference, but they run it
10:58
through a Russian smoke screen
in 2020 there's domestic
11:03
election interference, but they
run it through a Russian smoke
11:05
screen. So this time around,
when I see Merrick Garland in
11:10
the Department of Justice
sitting under the Biden
11:13
administration, suddenly
alleging election interference
11:16
by the Russians, I have any
facts other than to say, my
11:20
radar goes off and says, I want
to know where that election
11:24
interference is actually
beginning,
11:25
Adam Curry: Canada. So these two
11:28
John C Dvorak: big laughs I'm
not hearing, you know, funny,
11:30
you
11:31
Adam Curry: know, I've watched a
couple of these. And the here's
11:34
the mistake he's making. They do
not have good crowd microphones.
11:38
They did. The crowd is not,
well, miked. I
11:41
John C Dvorak: heard Mike, yeah,
this is common. It's, it's, it's
11:44
Adam Curry: a shame. It's
11:45
John C Dvorak: a church. I've
seen it. I've seen it. I was in
11:48
a situation once where the crowd
wasn't Mike properly, yeah. And
11:51
I was always hilarious, by the
way, yeah. And then you watch, I
11:54
watched the thing as they
streamed it, and it was, there
11:57
was no reaction. Look like an
idiot up there making jokes with
11:59
no response whatsoever.
12:01
Adam Curry: No, you look like a
dud. I know it's so typical for
12:05
these because, you know, I used
to do concerts that were for,
12:09
you know, concerts with big
audience, and then it would also
12:12
be broadcast on television back
in Holland, and we would always
12:15
focus the crew. It's not, you
know, you're doing stuff, yes,
12:19
make the house sound good, but
the lights are also TV lights,
12:23
and the sound is also TV sound
you have to focus on they missed
12:27
it on this. Anyway, I want to
12:30
John C Dvorak: mention we did
have a producer that went to one
12:32
of these events, RFK Jr showed
up as a special guest, and he
12:39
thought it was entertaining, but
it was only filled a 14,000 seat
12:43
arena with 12 by 1210, to 12,000
so
12:46
Adam Curry: only, only 12,000
12:49
John C Dvorak: Well, only 12,000
Yeah, with divide 18 to 10 bucks
12:53
they had, that's what it's good
money,
12:56
Adam Curry: yeah. And then you
get drinks. You get merch.
13:01
John C Dvorak: Parking. Merch is
probably where they get a
13:03
Adam Curry: piece of parking.
You get a piece of the parking.
13:05
You can have VIP parking. So
unfortunately, and there's a
13:09
second follow clip here, they
miss what we saw as obvious, a
13:14
lot
13:14
Unknown: of those allegations
that they were somehow helping
13:17
Trump. I actually got curious.
Actually, you could make strong
13:20
arguments that a lot of these
posts or whatever actually
13:23
weren't helping Trump at all,
but the fact that they called
13:26
that Russian election
interference again, just
13:28
suggests to me that this may be
part of a pattern of what we saw
13:31
in 2016 and 2020 so I don't
really buy what they're selling
13:35
on this. Wow. I think it's just
not a super clever group,
13:38
right? I think that.
13:40
I think the problem is they are
actually a super clever group.
13:43
Oh, I think that this is just
the beginning of a volley. So
13:46
this one's not gonna land. I
think the public Fool me once.
13:48
Fool me twice. The reality is, I
think there's some gonna be some
13:51
weird things that happen here in
the next two months. I think
13:55
they're gonna be some depending
what happens in the debate. So
13:57
I'm going to the debate next
week in Philadelphia. It's gonna
14:00
be Tuesday. Going to be probably
a Donald Trump demo, demolition,
14:06
destruction of the other side.
But don't share too much, right?
14:10
Because I was at the last one,
and that's actually, in some
14:13
ways, was a trap. It was
obviously a trap. But they
14:16
scheduled the earliest ever
presidential debate in US
14:19
history. Why did they do that?
It was obvious. It was that they
14:23
wanted to test Biden as a final
trial balloon, and they got a
14:26
free option because if he did
great, great, they turned the
14:29
race upside down. But if Biden
did as poorly as he did, they
14:31
swapped him out. It was
something unthinkable that
14:33
became the obvious. So I think
if we have another debate
14:37
smackdown on Tuesday, as I if I
was a betting man, I'd predict
14:40
that's what we're about to have.
I also would predict we're going
14:44
to have some very strange things
that happen on the back of that
14:47
as well. See, I,
14:49
Adam Curry: I think they missed
it. Our analysis was, it was so
14:53
clear to us, this is about
Ukraine, or, as we say, Ukraine,
14:59
you know it's like. No, I don't
think you're getting this right.
15:02
John C Dvorak: No, I would list
all the analysis of this, of
15:06
this Russian stuff, and it was
all and they left out. They left
15:10
out a lot. They always left
something out. We caught it all.
15:13
No, you're it was about Ukraine.
It had nothing to do
15:17
Adam Curry: at all. We can't be
saying Ukraine. We have to say
15:21
well, you just said it, no, but,
but no, that's, um, that's like
15:24
saying Gaza. You know, this is,
for some reason, all the in
15:29
crowd, which is not us, is
saying Ukraine, but you just
15:32
said it. I said Ukraine or
Ukraine? And I said Ukraine,
15:37
yeah, but you got, but we, I was
accentuating a point that we
15:41
don't say these things. Oh,
15:42
John C Dvorak: okay, well,
Ukraine, Ukraine, yeah, yes,
15:49
that's exactly right, but that's
not going to be picked up,
15:51
because that's not where the
narrative is going to head. And
15:55
while all this is taking place,
by the way, I think we should
15:57
start stop right here. And I
think it's time to create a
16:01
pool, oh, a betting pool on
where is because Vivek is
16:06
obviously an operative. Where is
he going to end up? In the in
16:10
the Trump administration?
Ambassador, he's going to get a
16:13
job. Ambassador, he's
16:14
Adam Curry: getting an
ambassadorship to India. You
16:16
think just ship him off.
16:19
John C Dvorak: That's probably
the best thing to do. Great
16:23
Adam Curry: job. Yeah, you need
to ship them off to one of the
16:25
bricks countries. So India would
be perfect. Let them go sit
16:28
there. I think that'd be good.
Yeah, and you can, yeah. I
16:32
think, I think that's where I
put my money in the pool India
16:36
ambassadorship. Good to go. So
meanwhile, while everyone is
16:41
running around talking about
Russian disinformation that came
16:45
from Canada, all the military
industrial complex came together
16:50
in Ramstein, the Ramstein Air
Base.
16:56
John C Dvorak: It's a Dirac
group, isn't it? Yeah,
16:59
Adam Curry: yeah. It's also an
army base in Germany. And
17:02
everybody was there, and all the
money was there. Everyone was
17:05
good to go, and we brought a big
check. The
17:08
Unknown: Arrival appeared
awkward, even if it was among
17:10
friends. Vladimir Zelinsky
arriving at a meeting of defense
17:13
ministers from Allied countries,
including the US, UK and hosts
17:17
Germany. He, like his country,
soldiers once on a mission to
17:22
ensure Ukraine's partners were
following through on promises to
17:25
help it win its war with Russia
17:27
a shortage of missiles and
cooperation. This applies even
17:31
to our territory, which is
occupied by Russia, including
17:35
Crimea. We think it is wrong
that there are such steps we
17:39
need to have this long range
capability, not only on the
17:43
occupied territory of Ukraine,
but also under Russia.
17:47
Zelinsky is frustrated that
allies still haven't permitted
17:50
Kyiv to hit Russia inside its
own borders using Western long
17:53
range missiles. He believes this
is a key way to put pressure on
17:57
Moscow to end its two and a half
year war on Ukraine. But
18:00
speaking after the meeting US
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,
18:04
appear to indicate that
Washington did not believe long
18:06
range capabilities would turn
the tide of the war.
18:10
We had this discussion about
about other capabilities, and
18:15
each time we point out that it's
not just one thing, it's a
18:19
combination of capabilities and
how you integrate those
18:23
capabilities to achieve
objectives.
18:25
Early on Friday, the US said it
would be providing an additional
18:28
$250 million in assistance,
while the UK and Germany also
18:32
said they were providing
equipment, including short range
18:34
missiles and how it says Ukraine
says it desperately needs to
18:38
bolster its defenses. So
18:41
Adam Curry: of course, we're not
going to give him long range
18:43
weapons, because that could
potentially could do one of two
18:46
things. Could start world war
three, minor issue, but it would
18:50
possibly end something, and they
don't want that. Keep burning
18:54
stuff on that border, keep
blowing stuff up, be doing a
18:57
good job. And who else was
there. Who else was in in
19:03
Ramstein, doing, I swear to God,
doing Instagram reels with
19:09
Zelensky. Lindsey Graham,
19:13
Unknown: I'm here with President
Zelensky. I
19:14
am such a
19:16
admirer of what you and your
country have done. What kind of
19:18
stop the Russians so we don't
have to fight them. They don't
19:21
want any American troops.
19:22
Adam Curry: You're going to stop
the Russians so we don't have to
19:24
fight them. You dope.
19:26
Unknown: Trying to stop the
Russians so we don't have to
19:28
fight them. They don't want any
American troops. They just need
19:30
the weapons to free their
country. Yeah, yeah. We
19:33
Adam Curry: don't want American
troops on the ground kill your
19:35
own people.
19:36
Unknown: Terrible invasion that
they're sitting on.
19:39
John C Dvorak: So funny. Oh, it
gets better. It
19:41
Adam Curry: gets better. He does
a classic here, it gets better.
19:44
Unknown: Terrible invasion.
They're sitting on trillion
19:47
dollars worth of minerals that
could be good to our economy,
19:50
helping our friends in Ukraine.
We can win this later. Help.
19:55
Yes, we need, and we have
already the biggest help. Is the
20:00
support of American people and
support of our friends. Thanks
20:03
to Lindsey and his colleagues,
to congressmen and centers from
20:08
the United States, thanks for
this support, bipartisan
20:12
support. Thank you so much.
20:14
Peace is coming. Yes,
20:18
Adam Curry: peace is coming
right after we so I don't know
20:21
if Zelensky is he must be in on
the game, because no way is he
20:26
gonna get any of the $26
trillion worth of minerals that
20:31
are in Ukraine's land. No way
you said it again. I'm doing on
20:36
purpose now. And this is this.
Lindsey Graham has been saying
20:40
this, but no one ever calls him
out on it or says this is the
20:44
real reason for this war.
They're
20:46
Unknown: sitting on 10 to $12
trillion of critical minerals in
20:50
Ukraine. They could be the
richest country in all of
20:53
Europe. I don't want to give
that money and those assets to
20:57
Putin to share with China or to
Ukraine. If we help Ukraine now,
21:01
they can become the best
business partner we ever dreamed
21:04
of. Sign here that 10 to $12
trillion of critical mineral
21:08
assets could be used by Ukraine
and the West, not given to Putin
21:13
and China. This is a very big
deal how Ukraine ends. Let's
21:17
help them win a war we can't
afford to lose. Let's find a
21:21
solution to this war. But
they're sitting on a gold mine,
21:24
Adam Curry: yeah, and this was
months ago that he said this. So
21:28
it's like this, so obvious what
is going on. They've already
21:31
given away all of the the bread
basket of Europe to the big, you
21:37
know, Monsanto and Cargill, and
not Montana Cargill, and who are
21:41
the other guys who did the big,
uh, big, AG, Tyson. Probably
21:46
think Tyson, so Tyson's
21:49
John C Dvorak: on this deal
well, but yeah, I'd rather have
21:53
the Russians. I hit the you
know, we're not getting paid
21:55
Russian money, but I'm going to
say it not yet. You're working
21:58
on it. I can hear you. I see
what the Russians should have
22:01
them, let them do it, because
the one thing I've noticed about
22:04
them is they're not gougers.
When they're given all the gas
22:08
and they're pumping it all into
Europe, and everyone said all
22:10
the way to go, we're gonna
depend in on it, they're not.
22:13
They're never gouged anybody.
They just let they just let it.
22:16
They take a look at it, take a
small profit, and then they dump
22:19
it out there. And, you know, the
gougers are, are looking for
22:24
that, that the wheat fields, and
the gougers are looking for the
22:28
minerals
22:29
Adam Curry: the gougers are
starving Africans with, with the
22:33
wheat and the grain, yeah,
22:38
John C Dvorak: that is, that is
the negative side of capitalism.
22:42
So
22:42
Adam Curry: this brings me to a
boots on the ground from one of
22:44
our producers in Russia who
says, I love your show. I'm an
22:49
American currently studying
22:51
John C Dvorak: American in
Russia. Yes, we need to get
22:53
Russians. You know, I want to
stop right here and mention that
22:56
people that are listening to
show that are in I know it's, I
23:01
know in Spain, they listen to
the show. And I visit with a few
23:04
of them once, and they said,
Well, the great thing about the
23:07
show is you guys speak clearly,
and it's good for us to practice
23:10
our English. All world listeners
out there should pass it along
23:15
to other people that are in the
community, Russia and elsewhere,
23:20
listen to this show so you can
practice your English. And
23:23
Adam Curry: we have transcripts
in the modern podcast app so you
23:25
can read along and learn
unbelievable and learn and learn
23:29
how to spell Dvorak,
23:31
John C Dvorak: John. See, John,
see,
23:33
Adam Curry: love your show on
American currently studying in
23:36
Russia because it's cheap. Just
wanted to tell you that I've
23:39
observed what I have observed
here in Russia regarding the
23:42
Russia, Russo Ukrainian war, I
think, and do believe, that
23:46
there will never be a
demilitarized zone in Russia, at
23:49
least maybe inside of Ukraine,
the Kursk region will not be
23:52
part of a demilitarized zone.
John touched on something I
23:55
think is true. In 1943 the
Germans attacked the Kursk
23:59
salient and set up and to set up
a trap. I think the Russians set
24:04
the same trap in the Kursk
Region this time, as well as
24:07
there was nothing but green.
This is a student. There's
24:10
nothing but green conscript
guarding the border. A little
24:13
like October 7. Ah, the total
number of troops crossing the
24:17
border at first was 1000 once
they got inside Russia, the
24:21
Ukrainians put another 11,000
troops into the region. As of
24:24
now, the casualty numbers for
the Ukrainians could be as high
24:28
as 6000 out of a total of 12,000
initial troop count. But of
24:32
course, you know that's not
reported. Also, the Ukrainians
24:36
not gambled and lost. Anybody
report facts. Also, the
24:40
Ukrainians gambled and lost that
Russia would pull the troops
24:43
from the entire eastern front to
stop this incursion, which they
24:45
didn't. Ukrainians had to
redeploy some of their forces
24:51
from Kursk to pro Kursk just to
slow down the Russian advance.
24:55
John, you had a clip from
YouTube channel, military
24:57
summary channel, I know you two
are busy and blah, blah. Blah.
25:00
Finally, just let the dames
knights and fellow producers
25:03
know that Russians are really
friendly, caring, and they have
25:05
a great sense of dark humor.
They hold hands and hug, that's
25:08
for sure. They hold hands and
hug while drinking overpriced
25:12
coffee, talking about how crappy
their pop music is. And did you
25:15
see that latest internet meme?
They could be Americans of the
25:19
eastern hemisphere, which is
maybe why our governments are at
25:22
each other's throats sometimes.
Also, I can still get Coke and
25:24
Pepsi here. McDonald's and KFC
just renamed themselves to Tasty
25:29
period and rustics. Well, tasty
period.
25:33
John C Dvorak: Nicey period.
What
25:35
Adam Curry: kind, what kind of
franchise marketing is that?
25:39
John C Dvorak: Oh no, but it
doesn't sound right, while
25:41
Burger
25:41
Adam Curry: King hasn't even
taken down their signs and are
25:44
still open for business in my
city's biggest Molly even found
25:48
a can of a and W Root Beer from
America. How do I know it's from
25:52
America? Ingredients in English,
and second ingredient was high
25:55
fructose corn syrup. Well, how
about that? That should be isn't
26:00
that illegal? Aren't they?
Aren't they breaking sanctions
26:03
by still operating in Russia?
26:06
John C Dvorak: Oh, they use
middlemen in some sort of a
26:09
legal way. Let's face it,
there's a work it's called a
26:12
workaround. And one of the
things Americans are good at is
26:16
workarounds. We're good at that.
You find them, we work them out,
26:20
reach around, that's different.
We're good. We're always mixing
26:24
these things. I'm
26:24
Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry. No
26:26
John C Dvorak: wonder you keep
screwing up.
26:28
Adam Curry: So there was a so
now we have a report, I think
26:31
France 24 it was maybe Deutsche
villa, and they bring in a
26:35
military industrial complex
shield, which the whole thing
26:39
was all mic, Ukraine
26:40
Unknown: says it is concerned by
foreign media reports that Iran
26:44
has delivered short range
ballistic missiles to Russia.
26:47
Moscow, they hear the Iran meme
coming in now stepped up missile
26:51
and drone attacks in recent
days, stretching Ukraine's air
26:55
defenses. Kief and its allies
have previously accused Iran of
27:00
supplying ahead drones to
Russia, but Iran denies playing,
27:04
supplying any weapons used to
attack Ukraine.
27:08
Adam Curry: Let's bring in the
shell well. So the story is,
27:12
What? What? What?
27:14
John C Dvorak: What? Why are
they making this disassertion?
27:17
What? What difference does it
make? Well, here
27:18
Adam Curry: comes the the shield
to tell us why,
27:20
Unknown: and we are now joined
by Mark. Can see in a former
27:23
colonel in the US military and
now the Center for Strategic and
27:27
International Studies in
Washington, Colonel, Russia,
27:31
need Iranian missiles. Does it
not have enough of its own?
27:35
Well, it does
27:36
not have enough on its on its
own. It has been producing
27:40
ballistic missiles all along,
often with parts smuggled in
27:45
from global sources. But those
haven't been enough to
27:50
accomplish the ends that they're
trying to accomplish, for
27:52
example, attacking Ukrainian
infrastructure, electricity, for
27:56
example. So they brought in
ballistic missiles from North
27:59
Korea, and now they're proposing
to bring in the ballistic
28:02
missiles from Iran. It's
important to keep in mind that
28:05
Iran has been supplying Russia
with missiles all along. 136 is
28:11
that we just heard about. Iran
has been sending for about a
28:15
year. And in fact, they've set
up a plant in the in Russia to
28:19
produce these missiles, these
kamikaze drones, the ballistic
28:24
missiles, is a step up in
support, but not fundamentally a
28:30
change in policy.
28:31
Adam Curry: Okay, so they're
just bringing Iran into it for
28:33
whatever reason. We can kind of
guess why. And if you heard at
28:38
the beginning of the well, of
course, they want war with Iran,
28:42
anything more military
industrial complex, finance?
28:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
bit of that, but it this whole
28:50
story that makes no logical
sense. One thing they claim is
28:55
basically, the Russians are
losers. They can't even make
28:58
their own damn missiles. Well,
28:59
Adam Curry: where does it come
from? At the beginning of the
29:01
report you heard, according to
reports? Well, where did it come
29:05
from? It came from the chiefs of
MI six and CIA themselves, who
29:11
appeared at a Financial Times
conference just before the
29:17
Ramstein conference,
29:19
Unknown: stepping out from the
shadows for the first time
29:22
together a united front in an
era of division and danger, such
29:27
as claims that Iran has supplied
Russia with ballistic missiles
29:32
for its war in Ukraine. Should
29:35
Iran ship ballistic missiles of
whatever kind, close range or
29:39
other kinds, it would be a
dramatic escalation of the
29:43
nature of that Defense
Partnership.
29:45
No confirmation that Russia's
invasion of Ukraine is a key
29:50
John C Dvorak: wait. So these
are good clips, by the way.
29:53
Thank you. The assertion there's
interesting cross purposes of.
30:00
Assertions. The first one was
that, oh no, they're not doing
30:02
anything, but they're going to
start doing it. Yeah. Oh yeah.
30:05
Which is which we've known since
day one, that they've been and
30:09
we've seen pictures of the
missiles. I've written, I I've
30:11
shown, yes, pictures of the
factories in the newsletter. Six
30:15
months ago, took longer, maybe,
of the factory in Iran, exactly
30:21
the model numbers and everything
that were for all these drones.
30:24
We have all the data, all the
information that missile lands
30:28
and doesn't blow up, and they
can see, they take pictures of
30:31
it and put those in the
newsletter. It's all been
30:34
documented, but now, all of a
sudden, they haven't really been
30:37
doing any of that, but they're
going to start to Are you
30:41
kidding me? They think that
we're that stupid.
30:43
Adam Curry: Well please bear in
mind, for the first time ever in
30:47
public together, it's the chief
of the CIA burns and the chief
30:50
of MI six more who are telling
us this. So now we can believe
30:55
it.
30:56
Unknown: Of the nature of that
Defense Partnership.
30:58
No confirmation, but Russia's
invasion of Ukraine is a key
31:02
focus for the spike East. They
applaud a recent incursion by
31:07
keys in the opposite direction,
with Ukrainian troops snatching
31:12
parts of Russian land.
31:15
It's typically audacious and
bold on the part of the
31:20
Ukrainians,
31:21
oh, so bold, on the part of the
Ukrainian, audacious,
31:25
to try and change the game in
the way. And I think they have
31:29
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, you want
to say something. No, I
31:32
John C Dvorak: was just saying,
I was just listening to the man
31:34
talk about
31:36
Unknown: my Shrek, to try and
change the game in the way. And
31:40
I think they have, to a degree,
changed the narrative around us.
31:44
The Kursk offensive is a
significant tactical achievement
31:50
boost and Ukrainian morale. It
exposed some of the
31:53
vulnerabilities of Putin's
Russia and of his military.
31:56
Despite
31:56
the blow, Vladimir Putin is
still deemed to be looking
32:01
strong for now, I
32:03
don't see any evidence today
that Putin's grip on power is is
32:07
weakening. He, he does one thing
really well, and that's repress
32:12
people at home. Yeah,
32:13
I mean, I just don't ever
confuse a tight grip with a
32:18
stable grip. So
32:20
Adam Curry: he all he does is
oppress people at home with, I
32:24
don't know, Burger King, KFC,
McDonald's, a and W Root Beer,
32:30
Pepsi's. And then what does he
actually come out and say
32:33
Unknown: an endorsement made in
jest speaking as a guest at a
32:37
forum in East Russia, Vladimir
Putin candidly suggested that
32:40
Kamala Harris was his preferred
candidate for November's US
32:43
presidential
32:45
election. She
32:46
has such an expressive and
infectious laugh, it shows she's
32:49
doing well. I mean, Trump, he's
imposed more restrictions and
32:55
sanctions on Russia than any
President has ever imposed
32:58
before. And if Mrs. Harris is
doing well, maybe she'll refrain
33:03
from doing something like that.
33:05
The comments were met with
laughter by the audience, adding
33:10
to the modern theme of the
remarks a common trend whenever
33:12
Putin has talked on social
issues in the United States, the
33:16
Russian president had earlier
this year backed outgoing
33:19
President Joe Biden over Trump
claiming he was more
33:21
predictable. Trump for his path,
said he was left feeling split
33:25
over Putin's latest comments. I
33:27
don't know exactly what to say
about that. I don't know if I'm
33:30
insulted or he did me a favor.
33:33
The US National Security
Council, meanwhile, called on
33:35
Putin to stop talking about
American elections and to stop
33:38
interfering with them. Stop
33:39
Adam Curry: talking about us.
33:44
Unknown: This is great. It's
like he's trolling while he
33:49
totally
33:49
John C Dvorak: while he is
picked up a clue. Yeah, he is
33:53
trolling. In fact, I like to
have somebody else translate
33:55
what he said, Because I
skeptical. I bet this clip came
33:59
out some time back and then was
skeptical about it's a
34:01
translation. Well, that's a good
point, although this
34:04
translation, with the one I
heard was a woman translator,
34:07
and this one was a male so this
is slightly different. Well,
34:09
Adam Curry: the reason I picked
this one is, is France 24 and
34:12
they had a much more coherent
translate. The translation was
34:15
the same as the the Russian
translator, the clip that we all
34:19
and
34:20
John C Dvorak: the thing, the
thing that made me suspicious
34:22
about the clip was that when he
talked about camel's infectious
34:26
laugh, or basically, or
cackling, yeah, the audience
34:30
cracked up as as if they'd heard
it. And I don't know why they
34:33
would. Well, they've heard her
life. Why would they have heard
34:37
Camela cackling? Why would they
have heard any of it? It's
34:40
really, it's, it's like some
minor, uh, little, uh piccadillo
34:45
That saves some politician in
Portugal might have, and if you
34:50
mentioned to an American
audience, they'd all, they'd all
34:53
laugh about it when we would
have no clue. You just didn't
34:56
make any sense to me that they'd
heard her laugh.
34:59
Adam Curry: Come on. They're
serious,
35:02
John C Dvorak: that a Russian
national would have ever heard
35:05
anything Kamala Harris ever
said.
35:08
Adam Curry: My I dispute that. I
think that the Russians are all
35:11
over listening to what's going
on with us. Why not?
35:17
John C Dvorak: I just don't see
it. I don't see one thing, she's
35:20
never said anything important.
35:22
Adam Curry: I mean, that's the
only thing, listen, that's the
35:24
only thing she's known for is
that laugh.
35:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to us the
35:31
Adam Curry: world over, the
Dutch are talking about it. I
35:33
see it in the Dutch press. So, I
mean, not quite Russia, but not
35:38
far off. So I don't know. We'll
look for it. I
35:44
John C Dvorak: just said it made
me skeptical. I mean, I didn't
35:46
know that the Dutch were all
aware of the stupid laugh, but
35:50
Adam Curry: everyone's aware of
the stupid laugh.
35:53
John C Dvorak: Dispute that. Now
you use the word dispute, so I
35:57
used it back. You
35:58
Adam Curry: can dispute it all
you want. Now, will they know
36:01
that she, all of a sudden,
starts talking Southern and
36:04
black? No, no, that I that I
think they wouldn't know until
36:09
now without
36:11
Unknown: voter suppression. JC,
Abrams would be the governor of
36:15
Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the
governor of Florida. Imma, get
36:20
into some business now. Okay,
you all helped us win in 2020
36:25
and we gonna do it again in 2024
What are you gonna do about it?
36:28
He does not walk it like he
talks sick when we get this done
36:32
together, my friend, can I get a
witness? You think you just fell
36:38
out of a coconut tree?
36:40
Best Rapper alive,
36:41
chouphop.
36:43
Are you kidding me?
36:44
I'm totally part of that whole
listening generation of music.
36:52
Young men of color. Black men.
Is not it's not just a
36:55
barbershop. We got these
brothers out there. This one
36:57
brother was doing a lot of work
space. We have to say, woke,
37:00
let's get a cease fire. There
must be an immediate cease fire,
37:05
like everybody needs to be, woke
to stay more woke than less.
37:09
Woke. Leave grandma's medical
marijuana alone. You better.
37:14
Thank a union member. Thank a
union member for sick. Leave,
37:19
you better. Thank a union member
for paid leave, and I thank a
37:24
union member for vacation time.
I also worked at McDonald's.
37:30
Adam Curry: There you go see the
Russians. Didn't know about
37:34
that. They do now.
37:36
Unknown: Hello, Russia.
37:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, the
one or two Russians that listen
37:41
to this show. They got to get
more people listening.
37:43
Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. Hit
some Russians in the mouth. Not,
37:47
not a call for violence. Yeah,
okay, well, I've opened the
37:52
show. Well,
37:54
John C Dvorak: I do have my all
my totality of Ukraine. Eclipse
37:59
is from PBS. It's a 22 second
clip was summarized. What was
38:04
you didn't even touch upon, but
it did summarize the Ukraine war
38:09
for the last week, and you might
as well play it. In
38:12
Unknown: Ukraine, Russian drone
attacks are getting dangerously
38:14
close to the country's capital.
Ukraine's Air Force said that
38:17
across the country, overnight,
it shot down nearly 60 long
38:20
range drones, debris and
shrapnel fell on the streets in
38:24
Kyiv, some of it narrowly
missing the country's parliament
38:26
building. President Volodymyr
Zelensky is in Italy. Today.
38:29
He's meeting with European
leaders to try to shore up
38:32
support and ask for more
38:33
Adam Curry: aid. Money. Money,
money. Looking for money. Money,
38:37
money. Come on, man, give me
some money. Yeah.
38:42
John C Dvorak: Hey, guys gotta
go,
38:43
Adam Curry: Oh, he's perfect.
He's, I mean, he's, he's perfect
38:46
for the whole, gotta go. He's
perfect for the whole, the whole
38:49
system.
38:50
John C Dvorak: I'm sick of the
system being exploited. That's
38:54
our money. It's your money, my
money. Everyone that listens to
38:57
this show, it's their money. Oh,
this. They're just stealing
38:59
money. No,
39:00
Adam Curry: I feel your, your
dismay. I'm just pointing out
39:06
the obvious. The guy's not going
to go he's fantastic. Look,
39:09
when, when we send another two
$50 million or if we're, if we
39:14
make decisions about long range
missiles, why is it only Lloyd
39:20
Austin that talks about, where's
our president? Isn't he the one
39:24
to get it out? Isn't he the one
that should be telling us what
39:27
we're doing? No, they just send
over generals and then
39:31
contractors, and they all sit in
at a long desk, and Zelensky
39:35
then, oh yeah, good man, yeah.
Keep it going, brother. Yeah. We
39:40
want more stuff.
39:42
John C Dvorak: Oh, you do have
another I have another clip of
39:44
play. This is the drone. It
says, Don't he have this is,
39:49
this is the counter clip. This
is a longer clip. NPR does a 33
39:54
Adam Curry: seconds. Oh, nice.
Here we go.
39:57
Unknown: Russia continued to
bomb Ukraine today. Strike. Near
40:00
the parliament in the country's
capital, Kyiv, during the early
40:03
hours, the country's Air Force
said nearly 70 drones were used,
40:07
and most were shot down with air
defenses. No deaths were
40:11
reported in the capital, but
elsewhere in Sumy, Kharkiv,
40:14
Kherson and Dnipro, local
officials say Russian attacks
40:18
injured or killed at least four
people. This as funeral services
40:21
were held for victims of an
earlier Russian attack on
40:24
Poltava that killed more than 50
people and injured hundreds.
40:30
John C Dvorak: You see that no
mention of money. There
40:32
Adam Curry: no but the horrible.
The reason why it's a 33 second
40:35
report is because even NPR knows
no one in America cares anymore
40:39
about this. We've we're immune.
We're like,
40:44
John C Dvorak: I agree. I agree
with that. So they're
40:46
Adam Curry: trying to keep their
audience. So PBS, so
40:50
John C Dvorak: they gotta do
more anti Trump stuff and stuff
40:52
about these wars or anything.
40:54
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you
need do more. You know, the I
40:57
didn't clip any of it, but the
latest trend in and I heard this
41:02
on on the media from NPR, the
trend is to say we're not
41:07
reporting right on Trump. We're
translating his incoherent
41:11
blather because he's old, he's
old and he can't senile and
41:16
senile, and so we're translating
it. We should be playing and
41:20
saying exactly what he said,
because no one understands it.
41:23
He's, I mean, it's all this is
the new move is to make you got
41:28
to make Trump sound stupid.
Well, the problem is that they
41:33
don't have enough air time,
because his what he calls the
41:36
weave. It takes too long. It
takes way too long for him to,
41:42
you know, to get to a point.
41:45
John C Dvorak: And, oh, it takes
forever. It's, that's his whole
41:48
thing, is he, he's just a
audience hog, the only way to
41:52
describe it, yes, he goes up
there and yaks, yaks, yaks, yes,
41:57
and he, and he tries to do
material. I had a clip here that
42:01
actually discusses this.
42:04
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
trend, so I'm glad, I'm glad
42:06
that you're on it, because I
didn't get anything.
42:09
John C Dvorak: Here's nb. This
says NPR. Put Emma seven in this
42:14
randomly ripping Trump on his
tariffs and some others. This
42:18
just a random NPR rip
42:22
Adam Curry: man, I wish I could
find it. You confuse me with M,
42:25
John C Dvorak: P R, M, as in,
Mary looking at m, O,
42:29
Adam Curry: M, P R, yes, I got
you.
42:31
Unknown: Former President Donald
Trump spoke at a rally in
42:33
mosney, Wisconsin this
afternoon, a speech that went on
42:36
for more than an hour and a half
the rally, no state push both
42:40
campaigns are doing with less
than two months until Election
42:43
Day and pierce Daniel Curtis
Leben reports,
42:46
Trump made many of his usual
arguments, like railing against
42:49
the quote fake news and casting
undocumented immigrants as
42:52
dangerous. See, this
42:53
Adam Curry: is what they want.
They Hey, hey, you can't do that
42:56
anymore. You have to verbatim
report what he said, because
42:59
he's he has cognitive issues. He
also repeats.
43:03
John C Dvorak: He would stop
before he finish that or that
43:06
thought. The way they begin the
report is, though he went on for
43:11
an hour and a half like he's a
rambling old man, as if he's
43:14
never He does 145 once in a
while. Yeah, an hour and a half
43:19
in the modern era is short,
43:22
Adam Curry: and you wonder why
people pay money to go see
43:24
Tucker and Vivek. They go, they
they love, people love the live
43:29
show. Can't afford Oasis
tickets, so you might as well go
43:33
to either the free Trump show,
which is
43:36
John C Dvorak: not you mentioned
it. What is a Taylor Swift
43:38
ticket cost? Oh, if you can get
one, I've been just like 500
43:43
bucks and up. I've been hitting
43:44
Adam Curry: refresh for hours.
Also repeatedly promoted
43:47
tariffs.
43:48
Unknown: We will charge other
countries when their product is
43:51
sent into our country. And why
shouldn't we? That's exactly
43:55
what they do. That's what that's
what made China strong. Foreign
43:58
countries do not pay tariffs.
Businesses importing goods to
44:01
the US do tariffs can be
attempts to protect domestic
44:05
industry, but economists say
many of tariffs costs are passed
44:08
on to us, consumers. As
President Trump imposed tariffs
44:12
on hundreds of billions of
dollars of Chinese goods.
44:14
President Joe Biden kept tariffs
on Chinese goods in place.
44:18
Danielle kurtzweb, NPR news now.
44:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, this is an
interesting report, because they
44:23
go on to condemn Him for
tariffs, yeah, but Biden did it
44:27
casually, yeah, casually just
kind of mentioned, just to
44:32
balance the report. I'm not sure
why they even did it. Well, they
44:35
mentioned that
44:37
Unknown: go ahead. Well, I
44:38
John C Dvorak: thought you had
something to say there.
44:40
Adam Curry: No go ahead.
44:41
John C Dvorak: I would do so
what they did was they set it up
44:44
with all this guy's terrible.
Oh, by the way, Biden did the
44:47
same thing. They only did that
because it because they would be
44:50
condemned by the media watchers
for not saying, hey, wait a
44:54
minute. Why is it so bad when
Trump does it, but it's okay
44:56
when Biden does it, which is
really what the combat so they.
45:00
Lip it in at the end, as though
you won't notice. So
45:03
Adam Curry: it's very poor. So
I've seen a couple things that
45:06
make me question. Well, I mean,
if you look at the headlines
45:12
today, neck and neck, it's very
close, within the margin of
45:15
error. It's a horse race,
everybody. Oh, it's crazy. It's
45:18
so close, so close. I don't know
if they're trying to pull
45:23
Trump's numbers up a little bit
or I don't know, yes, I don't
45:28
know what PBS was thinking with
this. This is so instead of
45:32
playing crazy Trump, let's play
something from the crazy Trump
45:35
voters. And Are they crazy?
45:37
Unknown: I spoke to another
Trump supporter, woman who
45:40
really spout
45:41
Adam Curry: why don't they say
voters? They always say
45:43
supporters. You don't notice
that. So that's a good I'll have
45:48
to start looking for that call
about they say fans or
45:51
supporters, or anyway,
45:53
Unknown: I spoke to another
Trump supporter, woman who
45:56
really spouted a series of
conspiracy theories. She was
46:00
someone being trained for this
Trump force 47 potentially, she
46:03
was in that she's gonna be one
of those people trying to
46:06
persuade she was in that
meeting. I didn't stay for the
46:09
actual training, but she was
there for that event.
46:11
John C Dvorak: And hold on,
Trump
46:12
Adam Curry: force 47
46:13
John C Dvorak: I didn't stay for
the actual Wait. Why didn't she
46:15
stay? Because it
46:17
Adam Curry: would, it would rot
her brain, and she'd become a
46:19
Trump supporter. She didn't want
the programming. I don't know.
46:24
This is Trump force. If
46:26
John C Dvorak: you're reporting
on something, no, even if you
46:29
didn't stay, why would you say
that? It seems to me that you,
46:32
especially if you're NPR or PBS,
whatever, this is same thing. I
46:36
Adam Curry: think this was these
are on YouTube. These are like,
46:39
Zoom calls. You can sign up to
become part of Trump force 40
46:43
Okay, okay, yes, I like it a
lot. Actually, I like the whole
46:47
idea of Trump force 47
46:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay, well,
you can just keep playing force
46:54
47
46:55
Unknown: I didn't stay for the
actual training, but she was
46:57
there for that event, and she
told me, you know, I believe Joe
47:01
Biden died three years ago, you
know, I told her, you know, that
47:04
sounds like a
47:06
Adam Curry: conspiracy theory.
Well, Boyd, she countered. She
47:09
said, Oh no, that's a conspiracy
theory. You know that, right?
47:12
And I told
47:12
Unknown: her, you know, that
sounds like a conspiracy theory,
47:14
you know, that's a stereotype
against Trump voters. And she
47:17
said, I know that. But again,
this is true. So I talked to the
47:21
first woman, suburban woman, I
Trump voter, said, you know,
47:23
these are the other supporters
of Donald Trump. These are the
47:25
same people in your party
supporting him. I just said, you
47:28
know, I think that's just crazy,
you know. So they're, they're
47:32
really on different pages.
They're both behind Donald
47:34
Trump, but they, neither one,
are quite seeing the full
47:37
picture of his support and what
he stands for to everyone who
47:41
supports him. So
47:42
Adam Curry: what I supports him.
What I like about this is
47:45
they're saying there's such a
wide array of people who are all
47:50
in on Trump, they're baffled by
it. Yes, they're baffled,
47:53
exactly like the crazy ones. And
the other ones say, Okay, well,
47:56
she's crazy, but it's all right.
They cannot fathom that. People
48:02
just want an agenda, or, you
know, they want a platform, or
48:06
they want something, anything,
but what we have, they can't
48:09
lockstep
48:10
John C Dvorak: is what this is,
the way they are. And the thing
48:12
that still fascinates me to go
back to it, this was agenda with
48:17
Trump 47 I guess, force,
whatever it's
48:20
Adam Curry: called, Trump force
47
48:22
John C Dvorak: Trump force 47
training, and you had the
48:26
opportunity to go to get in on
it as a reporter. And you you
48:30
could report on exactly what the
training was and how it works.
48:34
What kind of a Reporter Are
48:36
Adam Curry: you? There's and I'm
seeing all kind
48:39
John C Dvorak: of asking you, I
mean just gently, I
48:41
Adam Curry: hear you. I hear you
that it's PBS reporter, is what
48:44
she is.
48:45
John C Dvorak: Would you like to
come to our conspiracy theory
48:47
meeting? I know we don't usually
let the press in, but if you
48:51
come in, it's okay. It'll be
okay for you to come in and spy
48:54
on us. No problem. And you don't
do it. I hereby invite. Are you
48:59
nuts?
49:00
Adam Curry: I hereby invite any
PBS reporter to come to my vape
49:03
shop meetings, because you'd
love them. You'd love to hear
49:08
the ranchers receivable, I know.
So now it's interesting how we
49:12
kind of switched up beats out
just looking at the titles of
49:15
your clips. So you brought in
the Christian nationalism last
49:18
time, and CBS and that was, I
think, NPR CBS did a series, you
49:24
know, the little report. And it
sounded to me like they're
49:29
actually trying to get the non
voting evangelicals out to vote,
49:35
which makes no sense, because
that's the whole, you know, as
49:39
we've discussed. The whole
problem is that the
49:42
evangelicals, the Christians,
the Christian nationalists, they
49:46
don't vote. So they do a story
where they say, Hey, these guys
49:50
don't vote
49:51
Unknown: under a massive circus
tent in Eau Claire, Wisconsin,
49:53
Lance wall now is the ringleader
preaching Christian nationalism
49:58
and political activism to. A
rapturous following. Rapturous,
50:02
Adam Curry: a rapture,
rapturous. I missed that the
50:06
first time I heard it, a
rapturous following. Unless you
50:09
learn how to mobilize and how to
move in at
50:12
Unknown: a local level, then
you're letting the devil
50:16
dominate your culture, while now
68 is a business consultant,
50:20
self proclaimed Prophet and
firebrand influencer in the
50:23
growing charismatic Christian
movement. Oh, wow.
50:26
Adam Curry: What I want that on
my business card. Fire brand.
50:29
John C Dvorak: Just put it on
fire brand. Fire brand.
50:32
Unknown: He views Trump as a
once in 1000 years figure,
50:36
flawed yet divinely chosen to
navigate chaotic times. I caught
50:41
that idea in 2015 when I first
met Trump, and I got a lot of
50:46
pushback after he got elected,
because they were searching
50:49
around for how, why did the How
could the Evangelicals justify
50:52
voting for some, you know,
barbaric character like Trump
50:56
and they're hypocrites that they
are well now admits that Trump
50:59
twice divorced and roundly
accused of other moral failings
51:03
does not align with traditional
evangelical expectations. I
51:06
said, Listen, give the guy some
time. He doesn't know who we
51:09
are, but his values resonate
with our community. God's
51:12
raising up an outsider, while
now headlines the so called
51:16
courage tour, a religious road
show that aims to mobilize
51:20
religious conservatives to vote
and serve as election workers in
51:23
key counties.
51:24
Adam Curry: So that's just the
setup. But then we get closer
51:27
into it, and I really think
51:29
John C Dvorak: CBS so the
reporter is Major Garrett. Yes,
51:32
that's who that is. And he is
kind of on the fence. He used to
51:38
be his fox, and he's always been
on the fence with Trump, because
51:41
Trump because Trump is calling
out as a douchebag
51:43
Adam Curry: more than one Good
point, good point. So we should
51:47
keep that in mind. Well, it
doesn't matter. It still has to
51:49
go through the CIA broadcast
systems or the editors. Yeah,
51:54
and
51:54
Unknown: Trump evangelicals
don't see an abrasive, thrice
51:57
married billionaire. They do see
an anti establishment leader,
52:01
strong on abortion, gender
issues and Israel. I
52:05
want people to vote because he
stands for something. Jackie
52:09
Brokaw
52:09
lives in Wisconsin and attended
the courage to her with her
52:12
brother.
52:13
The number of Christians that
are in this area, if they would
52:16
vote, they could swing this
county, which would probably
52:19
swing the rest of the state
52:20
we are seeing here today is the
most targeted and tactical voter
52:26
mobilization effort done by
Christian nationalists ever.
52:30
Matthew Taylor has written
extensively about this new form
52:33
of religious activism that fuses
political outcomes with divine
52:37
intervention. What is the
political import possibly, in
52:40
the 2024 election of events like
this. Well, if Trump wins, then
52:45
that becomes a part of the
impetus that Donald Trump can
52:49
say, I don't just have a
democratic mandate. I have a
52:51
divine mandate to change the
country in accordance with the
52:56
biblical values that these folks
claim to have.
53:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, Trump's gonna
be, yeah, that's right, God. God
53:02
did it for me. And here comes
the final, the final pitch, I
53:05
think, from Major Garrett.
53:07
Unknown: January 6 was not an
insurrection, it was an election
53:10
fraud intervention. 2020,
election denialism is core to
53:15
wall now's world view, and the
terminology at his revivals is
53:19
apocalyptic. It's not us that's
dangerous. It's them describing
53:23
a spiritual battle between pious
believers and demons who speak
53:27
through Democrats or liberals.
Yes, it's not just the person,
53:31
spiritual force, demonic or
demonic? Yeah, they can
53:35
influence people with bodies. He
believes hyper focused Christian
53:38
political energy can overcome
those perceived obstacles, the
53:43
tendency to just look at
elections, pray about them, eat
53:45
popcorn, watch the result and
then go to bed, is over.
53:49
Christians as believers probably
should be engaged in this
53:52
process of shaping culture far
more aggressively and
53:56
intentionally from now on, as
for their impact on the
53:59
election, God only knows, major
carrot in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
54:07
Adam Curry: So, so that is he
literally is, is helping the
54:11
message. It's better than maybe
54:13
John C Dvorak: again, the CIA we
have talked about this on and
54:16
off and on and off, which is it
possible they really want Trump
54:20
to win, yeah, and the whole
thing is just a smoke screen
54:23
for, like, trying to get Trump
to win somehow.
54:26
Adam Curry: Well, this report
felt like it, and I can tell you
54:29
that churches around like it
too. Churches around America are
54:33
speaking like this. I don't know
if you want to call them
54:35
Christian nationalism,
nationalists or extremists, but
54:39
that that there's a, there's a
big movement out there trying to
54:42
do exactly this, and CBS just
helped. Very interesting.
54:46
Meanwhile, back at the ranch,
Anderson Cooper brought out a
54:49
whopper of lies. We begin
54:51
John C Dvorak: tonight with the
former president, campaign
54:53
politics, his legal troubles and
lies. He finished his day in
54:57
Charlotte, North Carolina, where
the Fraternal Order of. Police
55:00
endorsed him, and he had this to
say about a violent attack on
55:03
Nancy Pelosi husband.
55:04
Unknown: You know that Nancy
Pelosi is a big wall wrapped
55:07
around her house. Of course, it
didn't help too much with the
55:12
problem she
55:12
John C Dvorak: had. That is
that's the former president
55:14
speaking to members of law
enforcement making light the
55:17
first time I should point out of
the violent attack against Paul
55:20
Pelosi, a home invader, beat Mr.
Pelosi with a sledgehammer and
55:24
fractured his skull. What
sledgehammer? Sledgehammer we
55:32
saw the video. He's holding a
regular claw hammer,
55:35
Adam Curry: sledgehammer. I
55:36
John C Dvorak: love we all saw
it
55:40
Adam Curry: like, okay, pooper,
a sledgehammer, no less. Gotcha.
55:46
Hey, by the way, the Fraternal
Order of Police. Are those the
55:50
guys that always call me asking
for money.
55:54
John C Dvorak: Sometimes they
call. I mean, nowadays they have
55:57
this new guy. They have a new
with with the big, heavy voice.
56:01
Hey, the guy with the big voice,
which is a AI voice, oh, and
56:05
he's, it's an AI character, and
which is easy to hang up on,
56:09
because you don't have to make
an excuse.
56:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right.
And yes, you're right. It is an
56:13
AI.
56:13
John C Dvorak: It's an AI guy
says, Hi, how you doing? You
56:15
know, this is a nightclub. Don't
hang up because, oh and he
56:17
laughs about something, and he
but he has a voice. He has that
56:21
beautiful voice.
56:22
Adam Curry: This is Sergeant
Pete from the Fraternal Order of
56:25
Police. Are you interested in in
protecting police? It's, yeah,
56:30
he's
56:30
John C Dvorak: got this guy's
got a great voice, yeah. And
56:33
it's, it comes up, I get that
call about once every couple
56:37
months. Yeah, a couple of
months, I get it too. And it's
56:39
the same guy, it's the same
voice, and now it's an AI. So
56:43
it's not it's and it interacts.
It's interactive AI, so you can
56:47
say something to it, except Are
you an AI voice? And then you
56:51
hear the thing going to a stall
as it tries to dredge up an
56:55
answer to that. Or they got to
fix this. Because if you're
57:02
gonna do that, they gotta come
up with a quicker response,
57:06
yeah. Because every time you
call it out as a robot or AI, it
57:11
goes into a long loop, and then
it comes back with, oh, no, I'm
57:16
not AI. I'm a real person. It's
terrible. It is terrible. And
57:22
it's so easy to spot and very
easy to hang out.
57:25
Adam Curry: I'm not a I, yeah,
so I want to call out the the
57:30
press on all sides about this
bull crap Dick Cheney
57:36
endorsement. You think that Dick
Cheney was out there with his
57:40
heart in his in his shoulder
bag, which he has, he has that
57:44
battery powered thing that keeps
his heart going. If he still
57:48
Yeah,
57:48
John C Dvorak: he's got, yeah,
he has a heart. But Amazing how
57:50
long this guy can live.
57:52
Adam Curry: But it wasn't Dick
Cheney. He didn't come out and
57:55
say that. Oh, this happened in
Texas at the what was this? The
58:03
Texas Tribune interview of his
daughter,
58:06
Unknown: Dick Cheney. Your
father, a beloved figure among
58:09
Democrats for many, many years.
Do you if you know who he will
58:16
be supporting or who he'll be
voting for? Do
58:18
you care to share with us who
58:19
he might be voting for Dick
58:21
Cheney will be voting for Kamala
Harris.
58:25
Adam Curry: That's the extent of
the so called Dick Cheney
58:28
endorsement. I
58:29
John C Dvorak: thought that. I
thought there was a press
58:31
release that came out from Dick
Cheney saying he would support
58:34
Kamala. Well, I
58:34
Adam Curry: haven't seen it.
I've only, I've only seen
58:37
headlines
58:38
John C Dvorak: wheat maybe,
yeah,
58:40
Adam Curry: you're on. People
are calling for an intervention
58:43
of your your your ex, your ex
usage. They're very concerned.
58:49
John C Dvorak: As long as my
numbers go up, and they have
58:51
been going up, I'm keeping it
up. This is good for the show.
58:57
Adam Curry: So, you know, we
58:59
John C Dvorak: all come on
there's funny stuff in there.
59:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, there is funny
stuff. We're just worried that
59:03
you're too caught up in it.
People love you, John, that's
59:06
why, no, just want to make sure
you're okay. Blink twice.
59:10
John C Dvorak: So we handle it.
We anyway.
59:13
Adam Curry: So we finished the
whole series of Veep with Julia
59:18
Louis Dreyfus, and I've been
looking at all these parallels
59:21
with Kamala Harris, and there
was a, there was, near the end,
59:26
she's doing this negotiation
with the Chinese, and it turns
59:29
out the campaign manager she
hired is, you know, is working
59:33
for the Chinese, and they kill
her ex husband. And so this
59:37
throughout the thread of the
entire, you know, back end of
59:40
the series, her PR guy, stupid
Mike, who is stupid. He's trying
59:46
to adopt a kid from China, and
they're at Camp David, when she
59:50
becomes she's temporarily
president, and she pisses off
59:54
the Chinese. And then all of a
sudden, you know, the Chinese
59:57
say, Oh, we've now stopped all
adopt. Options of children from
1:00:01
China, and then this which,
well, this story pops
1:00:05
John C Dvorak: Today,
1:00:06
Unknown: China says it is ending
most foreign adoptions of
1:00:09
Chinese children. The
announcement puts hundreds of
1:00:12
American and other foreign
families with pending
1:00:14
application, their adoptions in
limbo. The only exceptions would
1:00:18
be for foreigners adopting the
children or stepchildren of
1:00:21
blood relatives in China. Since
the early 90s, the country has
1:00:24
sent 10s of 1000s of adoptees
overseas, with about half
1:00:28
arriving in the US. For decades,
China only allowed couples to
1:00:31
have one child, forcing many
families to put their children
1:00:34
up for adoption, but to slow
down a falling birth rate, the
1:00:38
government reverse policy?
1:00:40
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
so. I think that this is a
1:00:42
couple of days ago, by the way,
yeah, I know it's retaliation
1:00:46
today, huh? Yeah,
1:00:48
John C Dvorak: okay, I'm just
getting the timeline Correct.
1:00:50
Thank
1:00:50
Adam Curry: you. It's
retaliation. They don't want
1:00:54
whatever Carmel is doing with
China. They don't like it, which
1:00:58
could be,
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: by the way, you
you kind of, I think you may be
1:01:02
light hearted when you say that,
but I two people are trying to
1:01:06
adopt kids. You might be right.
Well, it really upsets. I mean,
1:01:11
people who are into adopting
kids because, for one reason or
1:01:15
another, because they can't have
kids they have to adopt. Are
1:01:17
they like kids? No, seriously,
yeah, they will. This is cutting
1:01:22
off one a stream of possible
kids that they can raise
1:01:26
Adam Curry: a stream of kids.
Well, it could be because of the
1:01:31
export controls that were
announced. You heard about this?
1:01:35
I'm not sure. Well, it's from
NTD. So you know, when it's
1:01:38
about China, it must be true.
Must be true, and it also hits
1:01:42
on another one of my favorite
topics.
1:01:44
Unknown: Washington has a new
plan for stemming the flow of
1:01:47
advanced microchips to Beijing.
The Commerce Department came out
1:01:50
with new rules Thursday. From
now on, companies looking to
1:01:54
export technology and tools
related to quantum computing
1:01:57
have to apply for export
licenses
1:02:00
Adam Curry: quantum computing.
You don't say, Are we pivoting?
1:02:03
Unknown: The new restrictions
are meant to prevent Beijing
1:02:06
from using that technology to
advance its own military
1:02:09
semiconductors are critical to
military power as they're
1:02:13
required for the most advanced
weapons and equipment. The
1:02:16
guidelines didn't name China,
but they expand similar
1:02:20
restrictions that the US
previously put in place. The
1:02:23
rules are effective immediately.
The expert controls cover a
1:02:27
number of things, quantum
computing, items, advanced tools
1:02:30
for making microchips and a
piece of key technology used in
1:02:34
chips for supercomputers.
Samsung has started using this
1:02:38
technology to make one of the
globe's most advanced chips,
1:02:41
though, there are exemptions,
friendly countries like Japan
1:02:45
already have their own export
controls, so entities in those
1:02:49
countries are not subject to the
new US export controls.
1:02:52
Washington's new action comes
after China found new ways to
1:02:56
get around restrictions
1:02:58
Adam Curry: so quantum computing
no longer AI, which I found
1:03:02
interesting. Now that NVIDIA is
crashing, I know it's up 100%
1:03:07
over year over year, but still,
it's bringing down the whole
1:03:10
market. And they've coerced,
they've coerced the Dutch into
1:03:14
this, like, Hey, you ASML Dutch
guys, you're not going to
1:03:19
export, right? Because, you
know, quantum computing is
1:03:22
important for advanced weaponry.
The US
1:03:24
Unknown: previously banned
Chinese companies from getting
1:03:27
their hands on certain powerful
AI chips, but some Chinese firms
1:03:31
have been able to utilize
computing power generated from
1:03:34
these chips with a workaround by
using us cloud computing
1:03:37
companies like Amazon, web
services, the Commerce
1:03:40
Department said it expects to
see similar export restrictions
1:03:43
from friendly countries. The
Netherlands is following
1:03:46
Washington's footsteps. The
country is home to the world's
1:03:49
leading supply of microchip
producing equipment, ASML, the
1:03:53
gear allows companies to mass
produce advanced chips. On
1:03:57
Friday, the Dutch government
said it would expand export
1:04:00
licensing requirements for some
of ASML chip making equipment.
1:04:04
Yeah,
1:04:05
Adam Curry: that's right. Shut
up. Duchies do what we say. I
1:04:09
just thought it was interesting
that you know, you you ban the
1:04:12
supply of kids from China right
around the same time that you
1:04:16
put export restrictions on
quantum computing chips. Is
1:04:20
quantum computing really one
chip. All I see is, nobody knows
1:04:25
what it is, obviously these
spaceship things that you see,
1:04:28
Google quantum wish it was one
chip that worked, yeah, of
1:04:33
course it's not. Yeah. That
worked, exactly the work
1:04:36
John C Dvorak: that that worked.
The word worked, yeah is the key
1:04:40
here. I'd love to know we've
been bullshitted into thinking
1:04:43
it does well, I'm extremely
scared. I mean, you may be
1:04:47
skeptical by AI, totally the
quantum computing is a non
1:04:52
starter. Just
1:04:53
Adam Curry: as skeptical of of
of quantum as I am of AI, my
1:04:57
question is, who I. These are
first. Who is making these so
1:05:03
called Quantum chips? What
company?
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
They've kind of hinted Samsung's
1:05:10
got something to do with this,
although that same assertion
1:05:13
about Samsung could apply to AI
chips the way they said, it was
1:05:18
vague. It's vague.
1:05:20
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
stick with the technology for a
1:05:23
moment. We have a lot of dudes
named Ben out there and dudettes
1:05:26
named Bernadette, who maintain
many systems of the windows
1:05:30
variety. This goes back to the
CrowdStrike bug that brought
1:05:37
down the entire world for a
little bit, stopped hospitals
1:05:40
from operating, stopped airlines
from flying, except for
1:05:44
Southwest the team over at the
pirate software podcast had an
1:05:50
interesting deconstruction,
which I'd like to know if you
1:05:53
saw this happen, and you can
probably go back in the logs and
1:05:56
check within your own IT
infrastructure. So the
1:05:59
interesting
1:06:00
Unknown: thing that I'm kind of
waiting on right now is you have
1:06:02
windows and you have CrowdStrike
right initially, I believe that
1:06:05
CrowdStrike is at fault for
this, and the reason why is
1:06:07
because CrowdStrike pushed an
update and then everything broke
1:06:11
in Windows because this update
was in place only for
1:06:14
CrowdStrike related machines.
But it's not that simple.
1:06:18
Windows pushed an update and
CrowdStrike pushed an update and
1:06:20
everything was fine, and
apparently Windows has then
1:06:23
pushed another update and then
everything broke. Now, the
1:06:27
interesting part about this is
that the machines were fine
1:06:31
initially under this
configuration, and Windows
1:06:33
changing that configuration
caused this problem to occur,
1:06:37
which then leads into a really
weird legal territory, which is,
1:06:40
Whose fault is this? Is it
Windows fault because they
1:06:43
changed that configuration?
Should they have changed that
1:06:46
configuration? Or is it
crowdstrikes fault because it
1:06:48
caused the system to die under
that configuration that wasn't
1:06:51
the initial one that they pushed
that update on? Usually inside
1:06:54
of the tech space, we would
blame the individualized
1:06:57
program, not the operating
system. The operating system
1:07:00
would not be at fault here, but
legally speaking, we don't know.
1:07:04
Adam Curry: So I thought this
was fascinating. I It happened
1:07:07
on a Friday, which is not
typical for a Windows Update.
1:07:11
No,
1:07:11
John C Dvorak: they always
happen on Tuesdays. And the
1:07:13
thing is, I I'm finding peculiar
that he keeps saying Windows
1:07:17
instead of
1:07:18
Adam Curry: Microsoft. Yeah, I
didn't like that either. But
1:07:21
Windows is not a company, but
that, that could just be
1:07:25
semantics. So what he's saying
is that Windows pushed an
1:07:31
update, CrowdStrike pushed an
update, and everything was fine,
1:07:36
but then Windows pushing up, and
remember, we had that Azure
1:07:39
outage, which was really odd. We
don't quite understand the
1:07:43
timing of that, which you would
think is Windows machines. Who
1:07:46
knows? It's probably all running
Linux. Remember Hotmail was
1:07:50
running on Linux. Remember
1:07:53
John C Dvorak: that Microsoft
bought and it's, oh, my God, we
1:07:55
got to recode the whole thing.
1:07:56
Unknown: Got to put it on NT.
1:08:00
Adam Curry: So I'd like to know
our dude's name, Ben out there.
1:08:03
Let me know if you have any
evidence that that happens,
1:08:06
because that would change some
potential liability or not. It's
1:08:12
EULAs, you know or not.
1:08:16
John C Dvorak: No, I haven't
heard that particular I like the
1:08:18
idea about So, what did else do
these guys talk about should
1:08:21
listen to this podcast. It's
1:08:23
Adam Curry: a little it's a
little tedious, you know,
1:08:26
because it's four guys, and
they're yucking it up, and
1:08:29
they're all talking together,
and they're drawn on
1:08:30
whiteboards, and it's the pirate
software podcast. Now, good
1:08:38
guys. I like them. I like them.
I like what they did there.
1:08:41
John C Dvorak: All right, let's
see what we got here. Let's go
1:08:47
with you. Just brought this up.
You brought up the issue of the
1:08:50
Chinese adoption. So might as
well go to the A series that was
1:08:53
done on PBS fixie, an exposition
on family planning that I
1:08:58
thought was kind of interesting
with the because it has a
1:09:00
kicker. Last
1:09:01
Unknown: year, the US birth rate
hit a record low, but data
1:09:05
suggests that over the past 30
years, the number of adults who
1:09:08
want or wish they had children
has remained relatively stable.
1:09:12
So why aren't they having
children or expanding their
1:09:15
families? Ali Rogin explores
some of the complexities of
1:09:18
today's family planning.
1:09:19
Over the past few weeks, we've
been speaking with Americans who
1:09:23
say they want to have a child or
grow their families about why
1:09:26
they're hesitant to do so. Their
answers were varied and complex,
1:09:30
just like the solutions they
said would help them change
1:09:33
their minds,
1:09:34
Adam Curry: grow your family.
1:09:36
John C Dvorak: Reminds me, I
stopped it here thinking, well,
1:09:38
this might be an interesting
report. Then it turns out that
1:09:41
you should listen and listen and
listen. It is just a pro. It's a
1:09:46
Kamala Harris promotional piece.
1:09:48
Unknown: Of course, I
1:09:49
always wanted kids I love before
you
1:09:52
John C Dvorak: play this second
part. It cuts into interviews
1:09:57
with just a random they have a
person. Then. Say, boy, they
1:10:00
don't like having kids, and then
another person, they just one
1:10:02
after the other, after the
other, after the other. And you
1:10:05
can start to hear the Kamala
Harris promotion within the what
1:10:10
these people are complaining
about. Not everyone, by the way,
1:10:13
look like they ever I'm sorry,
none of them look like they want
1:10:16
to have kids anyway. But okay, I
always
1:10:19
Unknown: wanted kids. I love
kids, but economically, I don't
1:10:23
really know of anyone who can
swing it anymore, even parents
1:10:26
that are working full time, they
can't afford childcare. They
1:10:30
don't have a village to help
them raise them.
1:10:33
I'm grateful that we are in
like, a stable financial
1:10:35
situation. Still, it's difficult
to raise a child. We don't have
1:10:40
any family close by. We have
friends who also have kids. Is
1:10:43
Adam Curry: she Chinese? Is
this? Is this a Chinese lady?
1:10:46
She was Spanish. Oh,
1:10:47
Unknown: so they are also busy
taking care of their families.
1:10:51
It's difficult. We don't we
don't have anyone. Every
1:10:53
year there comes out a new
statistic of whether or not
1:10:56
we've hit the turning point for
climate change, and that's
1:10:59
something that I take into
consideration when it comes to
1:11:02
starting a family, because I
don't want to raise a child in a
1:11:05
world that every year gets
closer and closer to becoming
1:11:08
uninhabitable. So
1:11:14
Adam Curry: Kamala Harris,
climate change, okay, you better
1:11:16
bring it home in the kicker.
1:11:19
John C Dvorak: Well, let's bring
it home in the
1:11:20
Unknown: kicker, if universal
child care was an option and we
1:11:23
didn't have to worry about that,
if universal health care was an
1:11:27
option, and, you know, I
wouldn't have to wonder if I can
1:11:31
anticipate, you know, regular
maternal care, high quality
1:11:36
maternal care while I was
pregnant, then, yeah, we
1:11:38
absolutely would have made an
effort to expand our family, for
1:11:42
sure?
1:11:44
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Because,
of course, that's the 6000
1:11:47
that's
1:11:47
John C Dvorak: exactly two main
things. Is, you know, having
1:11:50
universal child care, because
you can't keep care of your own
1:11:53
child, so you have to have
somebody else. You want the
1:11:55
government to take care of your
child, and you want the
1:11:57
government to take over the
medical system. So there you go.
1:12:00
There's, that's the camel. It
went on. And if you if I played
1:12:03
the whole thing, you start to
hear it. No, I
1:12:06
Adam Curry: heard it's all about
sense. And you know, Sir Brian
1:12:10
Baron of the Connecticut River
Valley, he went searching for
1:12:14
the 19 million new business
applications. Ah, which I love,
1:12:20
because, you know, that's what
time talent treasure is all
1:12:24
about. Yeah, totally, we have
the best producers in the
1:12:27
universe. He says, Ah, I found
it. The so called new business
1:12:31
application in the 19 million
claim is filing a Form SS four
1:12:37
to obtain an employer
identification number from the
1:12:41
IRS, of which, of course, you
know, 10 million will probably
1:12:46
never do anything with it. Oh,
so it's a little special,
1:12:51
John C Dvorak: good catch. Yeah,
congratulations on that. Yeah,
1:12:56
Adam Curry: which I thought was
a very good catch. Yeah, more
1:12:58
Bs, and that's not exactly a new
business filing. But okay, we'll
1:13:04
take it. We'll take it. Brought
up climate change. Do
1:13:10
John C Dvorak: you mind if I
good I got some climate change
1:13:12
clips. I'll start it off with
1:13:13
Adam Curry: the latest climate
change. This
1:13:15
Unknown: is what Asia's most
powerful storm so far this year
1:13:18
looks like, maximum sustained
winds in excess of 230
1:13:22
kilometers per hour, battered
southern China, damaging
1:13:26
everything in its path, from
buildings to trees, at least two
1:13:30
people were killed and dozens
injured in Hainan province,
1:13:33
hundreds of 1000s of homes were
left without power. Transport
1:13:37
links were suspended, schools
closed and millions of people
1:13:41
were told to avoid going out.
Yagi has doubled in strength
1:13:44
from tropical storm to super
typhoon since it hit the
1:13:47
Philippines earlier this week,
killing more than a dozen people
1:13:51
there a super typhoon has the
same damaging effects as a
1:13:54
category five hurricane. China,
Vietnam and Laos are all in its
1:13:59
path. Scientists say Typhoons
are becoming stronger and more
1:14:03
frequent as a result of warmer
ocean temperatures,
1:14:06
due to climate change, due to
climate change. There
1:14:09
Adam Curry: it is, due to
climate change. It's all climate
1:14:11
change. Everything is climate
change. It's all climate change.
1:14:16
You know, of course, we have
some kind I've
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: never had a super
typhoon before. I was in Taiwan
1:14:24
once during a typhoon. It was
interesting.
1:14:29
Adam Curry: Okay, John, so
1:14:31
John C Dvorak: I went to a to a
department store who would do
1:14:34
some shopping, and as this thing
was coming in before I get back
1:14:37
to the hotel, and I've never had
this quite this experience
1:14:40
before, but it started raining.
So you couldn't it was like, the
1:14:43
rain was like, it's like a like,
a Deep Fog. You couldn't see
1:14:48
five feet in front of you and
you, but you had to make a run
1:14:52
for it to get to a taxi to get
out of there. And one step, I
1:14:57
can still remember this one step
into. It to get out of the store
1:15:02
soaked from head to foot in like
one second, shoes ruined just
1:15:09
instantly. And it's just quite
fascinating to get that wet that
1:15:12
fast. It's like jumping into a
pool. And did people
1:15:15
Adam Curry: point at you and
say, due to climate change?
1:15:17
John C Dvorak: No, everybody
Yes. They always say, climate
1:15:19
change. A lot of broken
umbrellas. Let's put it that
1:15:22
way.
1:15:22
Adam Curry: Oh, that'll happen.
So I guess the western part of
1:15:29
the southwestern part of the
United States, we got Arizona.
1:15:32
We have Los Angeles, the heat
dome moved over there, also
1:15:36
known as summer in Texas. In
Texas, it's been written. How
1:15:40
about that? We were, we've been
in Mexico. It's been pretty.
1:15:43
It's very humid, but it's been
84 degrees. You know, it's nice.
1:15:47
It's beautiful Hawaii weather,
yeah, and a Texas, 7274 rain,
1:15:54
cold for Texas, for the hill
country, the heart of Texas. So
1:16:01
I don't know how the averages
work, but you've obviously got
1:16:04
to know it's the
1:16:09
Unknown: hottest year on record,
likely to hit 108 degrees today
1:16:12
in Phoenix Arizona tomorrow and
the next day. Nothing.
1:16:16
Adam Curry: It's that's, that's
low for Phoenix Arizona. Phoenix
1:16:20
John C Dvorak: Arizona, in the
summer like now, and it's, it's
1:16:24
unbelievably hot, and it would,
yeah, you can't even get back
1:16:28
into your car if you, if you
have to leave it outside, you
1:16:31
can't get back into it. You have
to take your key. You have to
1:16:34
try to open the door with like,
a napkin or so. You have need
1:16:37
something, because you burn your
hand on the door handle. You get
1:16:41
the door open, you you reach and
turn your put the key into the
1:16:44
ignition. Anyone in Arizona
knows this, put the key in
1:16:47
addition to start up the car and
turn on the air conditioner and
1:16:51
wait five to 10 minutes before
1:16:53
Adam Curry: getting in, before
getting in and and this is where
1:16:58
us being somewhat uh, older, or,
as they say in Mexico, Anejo,
1:17:03
she's
1:17:06
John C Dvorak: also the name of
a age tequila. Well,
1:17:08
Adam Curry: that's why I brought
it up. Anejo aged. We like a
1:17:12
fine age tequila. We know that
this is nothing new. I've been
1:17:17
to Arizona as a kid. It was hot.
I've been to Nevada. We as kids,
1:17:22
we went to, I remember our
parents, oh, you're in Vegas. I
1:17:25
don't remember why, but it must
have been nine, so a good 51
1:17:30
years ago. And we literally did
the old, oh, let's, let's boil
1:17:34
an egg, let's fry an egg on the
pavement. And it worked. You
1:17:38
know, it's so anyway, it's
horrible. It's 108 in Phoenix,
1:17:44
Arizona.
1:17:45
Unknown: This past Tuesday,
Phoenix officially recorded a
1:17:47
record breaking 100 straight
days of heat at or above 100
1:17:52
degrees Fahrenheit. And since
the heat dome over the Southwest
1:17:55
has not budged, that record is
likely to continue to go up.
1:17:59
Today will be 104 of one days of
100 degree weather, and more
1:18:04
than half of those days have
been higher than 110 degrees.
1:18:08
Record breaking heat in recent
years has also caused a record
1:18:11
number of heat related injuries,
illnesses and deaths across the
1:18:15
globe. World Health Organization
estimates that half a million
1:18:18
people worldwide die from heat
related causes each year here in
1:18:22
the United States, hospitals
have seen the cut. In the
1:18:24
country, have seen dramatic
increases in heat injuries like
1:18:27
severe burns from Sun baked
pavement and metal heat related
1:18:31
delirium and heat stroke. So
1:18:34
Adam Curry: obviously, dramatic
increases, the same as saying
1:18:36
50% increase over what we don't
know. We don't know what the
1:18:40
baseline is, and we know that
people who burn themselves on
1:18:45
the pavement are usually drug
addicts who are passing out and
1:18:49
burning on the pavement. But
doesn't matter. You know you're
1:18:52
just walking around and you burn
yourself on the pavement. That's
1:18:55
the impression they give us. But
you
1:18:57
Unknown: should know what
happens to your body when it
1:19:00
exposes itself to extreme heat.
What
1:19:02
Adam Curry: does your body do
when it exposes itself to
1:19:06
extreme heat? Job,
1:19:07
John C Dvorak: well, usually the
My body doesn't expose itself. I
1:19:13
have some some control over it,
and and usually, usually sweats,
1:19:22
maybe, or it decides to go
inside or find some shade. Does
1:19:26
Adam Curry: your body decide to
do that?
1:19:29
John C Dvorak: You on its own.
You've got a great
1:19:31
Unknown: body. The human body
has evolved to maintain a core
1:19:34
temperature of about 98.6
degrees Fahrenheit, or 37
1:19:39
degrees Celsius. Our bodies are
built with complex, effective
1:19:42
temperature regulation systems
to try to help us handle
1:19:45
variable weather in extreme
heat. Those temperature
1:19:49
regulation systems are hard at
work. First, your body attempts
1:19:53
thermal regulation by moving
blood flow outward toward the
1:19:57
surface of the skin the heart
rate. Quickens blood vessels
1:20:01
dilate to release heat, the skin
becomes flush, then your body
1:20:04
begins to sweat. Oh,
1:20:06
Adam Curry: wow. This he's
explaining sweating. This is
1:20:08
great.
1:20:11
John C Dvorak: What kind of
morons listen to this MSNBC
1:20:14
Adam Curry: viewers who think
everything is due to climate
1:20:17
change. By the way, the same
thing happens when you're in the
1:20:20
sauna,
1:20:20
Unknown: flush. Then your body
begins to sweat. A sweat
1:20:24
evaporates. It carries HEAT off
the body in an attempt to cool
1:20:27
it. But if it's really hot,
especially if it's hot and
1:20:31
humid, these thermal regulation
systems that we've developed
1:20:34
won't be enough. Oh
1:20:35
no. Go
1:20:36
Adam Curry: inside. Go inside.
Quick.
1:20:38
Unknown: The heart will continue
to be fast, putting strain on
1:20:41
cardiovascular systems. The skin
will continue to sweat,
1:20:44
depleting your body of water and
essential electrolytes. Oh,
1:20:48
I
1:20:48
need electro electrolytes.
Electrolytes. Quick
1:20:53
dehydration will set
1:20:55
Adam Curry: in. Have a drink of
water, maybe
1:20:58
Unknown: excessive sweating will
cause an imbalance of fluids and
1:21:01
salts in the human system,
muscles will cramp. They'll feel
1:21:04
weak. Your heart will keep
working harder. The kidneys,
1:21:07
which help filter waste and
manage fluid in your body,
1:21:09
become strained.
1:21:10
John C Dvorak: Wow, this
1:21:11
Adam Curry: is so good. I feel
weak my kidneys, I don't what
1:21:17
should I do?
1:21:18
Unknown: As your body loses
water, the volume of body in
1:21:21
your water decreases. So does
your blood pressure? No, the
1:21:24
blood thickens as it loses
moisture. The heart that has to
1:21:27
my
1:21:29
Adam Curry: blood is thickening.
I'm slowing down. I don't think
1:21:32
I can make it inside for a drink
of water. And harder
1:21:35
Unknown: to pump blood to the
brain, because less brain to the
1:21:38
less blood to the brain means
less oxygen to the brain, which
1:21:41
causes lightheadedness,
confusion, dizziness, even
1:21:43
fainting, like our president,
when unable to regulate your
1:21:48
body's core temperature rises
rapidly. If your body's core
1:21:51
temperature nears 104 degrees,
it reaches the threshold for
1:21:56
heat stroke, with that strain on
the heart, on the brain, on the
1:22:00
kidneys and the liver. All
that's happening now is that
1:22:04
your risk of organ failure has
increased. My
1:22:07
Adam Curry: organs are failing,
failing. If your
1:22:11
Unknown: body hits a core
temperature of 107 degrees, Wow,
1:22:15
your body's proteins begin to
break down. There is
1:22:18
irreversible vital organs, and
usually comes death,
1:22:24
Adam Curry: death, oh, no,
death, death is next. So this is
1:22:28
a very long lead into the
Copernicus Institute, which is
1:22:33
this, this European, you know,
they've now become the, the,
1:22:37
the, the, the official word on
climate change and temperatures.
1:22:43
They're in the EU, funded by the
EU and but everyone believes in
1:22:47
the Copernicus Institute,
extreme
1:22:49
Unknown: heat is even deadlier
than hurricanes, tornadoes and
1:22:51
floods combined. Really,
1:22:55
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't
think that's blood through I
1:23:00
think
1:23:01
John C Dvorak: combined
everything all dropped from
1:23:03
heat. Yeah,
1:23:04
Adam Curry: I have a feeling
that more people die in
1:23:07
hurricanes and stuff. But
1:23:08
John C Dvorak: okay,
statistician out there listening
1:23:10
to the show, we can get some
numbers.
1:23:12
Unknown: Last year was the
hottest here on record globally,
1:23:15
and this summer broke last
year's record. Just yesterday,
1:23:17
the European Union's Copernicus
climate change service reported
1:23:21
that summer 2024 was the
hottest, most humid summer ever
1:23:24
recorded on Earth, ever on
Earth. This summer, the Biden
1:23:27
administration announced a heat
plan, an initiative to help
1:23:30
protect workers from excessive
heat, as well as to fortify
1:23:33
communities across the country
to handle extreme heat as it
1:23:36
becomes more common. Their plan
includes cooling infrastructure
1:23:40
as well as heat information
systems to help prepare and
1:23:43
protect people from the growing
threat of extreme heat, all
1:23:46
supported by the National
Weather Service, the EPA and
1:23:49
NOAA, the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration,
1:23:52
supported by them. Meanwhile, as
Trump and some Republicans in
1:23:55
Congress continue to deny the
existence of human caused
1:23:58
climate change, the project
2025,
1:24:01
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop.
He all of a sudden changes from
1:24:07
climate change the very at the
very end, when condemning Trump,
1:24:11
yes to human caused climate
change. Why nowhere in the
1:24:16
report so far has it been
brought up that they believe
1:24:19
it's human caused? It's just
climate change. It could be a
1:24:22
natural phenomenon. Could
because of the sun, could
1:24:25
because of the 22 year Sun
cycle. Could be sunspots. It
1:24:28
could be a lot of things, but
now, because you're going to
1:24:30
condemn Trump, you slip it in as
though that was the factor all
1:24:35
along. Very tricky.
1:24:37
Adam Curry: I would say climate
change is caused by project 2025
1:24:43
that's what's going that's
what's going on here. Meanwhile,
1:24:46
Unknown: as Trump and some
Republicans in Congress continue
1:24:48
to deny the existence of human
caused climate change, the
1:24:52
project 2025 blueprint for the
next conservative administration
1:24:55
wants to gut the EPA. Wants to
completely dismantle the.
1:25:00
Weather Service and Noah, oh,
1:25:02
Adam Curry: no, we won't know if
there's climate change. Then
1:25:06
they
1:25:06
John C Dvorak: want to gut, if
they want to eliminate, they
1:25:09
want to shut down the epic, I
don't, I never
1:25:12
Adam Curry: heard this. Hello.
It's in Project 25
1:25:15
John C Dvorak: oh, it's in that
stupid project 2025. Thing that
1:25:18
they Yeah, that Trump never
read, yes,
1:25:21
Adam Curry: exactly. That's
what's going on.
1:25:25
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, I got a
couple of things here I want to
1:25:28
play. One is the course we have
to play this. This is a even
1:25:32
NTD, or which seems to be your
favorite channel. Now that
1:25:36
you're stealing my material,
you're
1:25:37
Adam Curry: stealing my
material,
1:25:40
John C Dvorak: I just have to
just have to just a little bitty
1:25:43
climate clip from man TD, and
this is the feels like feels
1:25:48
like temperature. They're even
doing it this
1:25:51
Unknown: week, the nation is
bracing for a severe heat wave
1:25:54
with extreme temperatures
anticipated to affect 32 major
1:25:57
cities. Some areas are expected
to exceed 105 degrees starting
1:26:02
Wednesday, a heat advisory has
been issued for South Florida,
1:26:06
including Miami, Dade Broward
and the Florida Keys were, feels
1:26:09
like temperatures could soar to
110 degrees Wednesday afternoon
1:26:13
feels
1:26:14
Adam Curry: like temperatures.
1:26:16
John C Dvorak: Feels like
temperatures. You know, I've
1:26:18
been working with Horowitz for
over a decade on the and he
1:26:21
lives in Florida, and I don't
care, any Floridian will tell
1:26:25
you the same thing, the summers
in Florida are miserable, yes.
1:26:30
So what else is new? Yeah. And
anyway, and CNN report feels
1:26:36
like temperature.
1:26:38
Adam Curry: CNN reports it's
early September. What should be
1:26:41
the busiest stretch of hurricane
season. Forecasters predicted
1:26:45
this was going to be a bad one,
storm after storm, the most
1:26:49
bullish forecasts on record in
straight instead, the Atlantic
1:26:53
Ocean is enveloped in a rare and
strange calm that has flummoxed
1:26:58
forecasters. And here's the
1:27:03
John C Dvorak: finish you read.
I know if you're reading that,
1:27:04
but yeah, this is fascinating,
because what's happened, and
1:27:08
this was reported. We didn't
have any I didn't get any clips
1:27:11
of it, but about two weeks ago,
they were wondering, Where's all
1:27:14
these damned hurricanes they're
supposed to have? Yeah, and they
1:27:18
and the and the water is warmer
than usual, and now they come up
1:27:21
with this bogus theory. They
keep theorizing. Everything's
1:27:24
done in the pat you know, this
old armchair quarterbacking
1:27:27
where, well, it must be this.
It's the temperatures have
1:27:31
gotten so hot in the oceans that
is confusing. The storms, they
1:27:37
can't form. I
1:27:38
Adam Curry: don't know what to
do. I'm confused. I think we
1:27:42
actually predicted this was
gonna this was gonna happen. I
1:27:45
think that maybe a few months
back, oh, it's gonna be the
1:27:48
worst September ever. You watch
climate change. It's gonna kill
1:27:51
so many people Florida, be on
beyond watch horrible. I think
1:27:56
we even just out of principle,
said, No, it's not gonna happen.
1:28:01
John C Dvorak: You got it right.
Just out of principle, exactly
1:28:04
so full of it, yeah, that it
doesn't take a genius to say,
1:28:08
Oh, that's not gonna happen. As
1:28:11
Adam Curry: an aviator, I can
tell you that you can predict
1:28:16
what's going to happen in a
certain area, like an airport.
1:28:19
Weather wise, you can do 24
hours, but really 12 hours, you
1:28:25
can predict that. You can't
predict anything out further out
1:28:28
than that. So it's all horse
crap. It really is. But this is,
1:28:37
this is the one man this. This
is what they're going to use to
1:28:40
talk about, you know, this will
be the reason for all these
1:28:46
mosquitoes. And, you know, all
the horrible we're all dying
1:28:51
from all of these horrible
triple equine you know, or was
1:28:57
it Eastern Equine Encephalitis?
Yeah. I think actually have a,
1:29:06
yeah, I have, I have a clip,
actually, of this West
1:29:08
Unknown: Nile virus, spread by
mosquitoes, is now deadly in New
1:29:12
Jersey, the state health
department New Jersey deaths
1:29:14
were older adults in Cumberland
and Mercer counties.
1:29:18
Adam Curry: Of course, old
people die all the time, from
1:29:20
from disease,
1:29:22
John C Dvorak: he died, please.
New infection. Well, I get the
1:29:24
bird. I could
1:29:25
Adam Curry: Oh, you just okay.
That's okay. You can you? Oh,
1:29:28
you have another play my
1:29:29
John C Dvorak: bird here's
another one, same thing, bird
1:29:32
flu. This time, bird flu. Get
you let bird flu out. Oh,
1:29:35
Unknown: I'm sorry. Health
officials have identified a
1:29:37
person in Missouri sick with
bird food, despite having no
1:29:41
known contact with animals,
marks the first case of the
1:29:44
virus in the United States this
year, not linked to farm work,
1:29:47
and appears Juliana Kim reports
1:29:49
the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention reported that a
1:29:52
person in Missouri was
hospitalized and treated for
1:29:55
bird flu. Unlike other human
cases, this patient has no
1:29:59
known. Exposure to a sick
animal. Bird flu has been
1:30:03
spreading across farms in the
United States since the spring.
1:30:06
So far, there have been 14 human
cases of the virus, and nearly
1:30:10
all the patients had been linked
to sick dairy cows or poultry.
1:30:14
The CDC says the Missouri
patient has recovered and the
1:30:18
virus did not appear to have
spread to close contacts, adding
1:30:21
that the risk of bird flu to the
general public remains low.
1:30:25
Aside from Missouri, human cases
have been reported in Texas,
1:30:29
Michigan and Colorado. So where
1:30:31
Adam Curry: do you get it from?
This? To get it from another
1:30:33
person or a monkey?
1:30:35
John C Dvorak: Well, the way I
see it, who cares? It's one guy
1:30:39
out of the blue who got bird
flu? There are people getting
1:30:42
sick or getting shot, or there's
all kinds of news around. This
1:30:45
is a non story. I'm going to
make a prediction, trying to
1:30:49
make it a story. Well, of
course, I'm
1:30:51
Adam Curry: going to make a
prediction. The on deck for the
1:30:56
next solution for climate change
will be roundabouts.
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, yes,
okay, you better explain that
1:31:06
one roundabouts
1:31:07
Adam Curry: in.
1:31:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, wait a
minute. Let me guess, let me I
1:31:08
can, I guess? Yeah, go for it.
You go round about, you know,
1:31:13
roundabout is the thing in the
middle of you. They have these
1:31:15
in Berkeley, they put them in
for no good reason. Climate.
1:31:20
What are we gonna do? We got
four way stops. I don't know
1:31:24
what to do. So then they have
the roundabouts, which are more
1:31:27
dangerous, and very few people
know how to use them correctly
1:31:30
so, but they have them anyway.
So they put one in. That's
1:31:32
because you go round and round
and round, it creates a
1:31:35
whirlpool, a vortex, which will
then change the weather patterns
1:31:39
and cause hurricanes and
tornadoes in areas where they no
1:31:42
longer exist or they never have
existed thus far. Well, yeah,
1:31:46
Adam Curry: no. First of all, it
doesn't surprise me that
1:31:48
Berkeley has them, and I bet, if
you look into it, Berkeley
1:31:51
probably had a study done that
said people don't idle at
1:31:57
roundabouts. You see, you're not
sitting there with your car
1:32:01
idling, idling, throwing
greenhouse gasses into the air,
1:32:07
waiting for either a a four way
stop, which is confusing, or for
1:32:13
a traffic light. Roundabouts
will be the I'm telling you. You
1:32:17
can write it down on the book.
Roundabouts are going to be the
1:32:20
next climate change solution.
1:32:25
John C Dvorak: Roundabouts, I
find them incredibly annoying.
1:32:29
With that,
1:32:30
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank
you for your courage. Say in the
1:32:31
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the kids from China,
1:32:34
say hello to my friend on the
other end, the one the only Mr.
1:32:37
John.
1:32:42
John C Dvorak: The morning to
you. Miss. The morning, all
1:32:43
ships to see boots on the
ground, feet in the air, subs in
1:32:46
the water, and all the Dames and
nights out there.
1:32:49
Adam Curry: Hello. Hello there
trolls. We have 21 let me count
1:32:52
the trolls for a second I was
looking for 2101 this seems on
1:33:02
par. It seems pretty good,
particularly for low for
1:33:06
vacation week. What was my what
was the cotton gin? What was
1:33:09
the, what was the the peak? What
was the, was the peak? I want
1:33:13
the peak was
1:33:14
John C Dvorak: we have one of
our producers that's, that's
1:33:18
good. Cotton Gin
1:33:19
Adam Curry: does that? Yeah?
Cotton gin? Yeah, cotton gin
1:33:21
hasn't posted it yet. He's
probably looking right. He's
1:33:23
John C Dvorak: doing a
statistical analysis of the flow
1:33:26
of the flow of roundabouts. He's
got all these numbers. It's
1:33:30
like, here it is. He can. He
sent me an email condemning me
1:33:33
for questioning his abilities.
Well, cotton
1:33:35
Adam Curry: gin is the man 2215,
he says
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: was that was the
hot, slow. The pillow thing is
1:33:40
low,
1:33:41
Adam Curry: it's low, it's low.
And we had a newsletter fail.
1:33:43
What happened?
1:33:46
John C Dvorak: I don't know I
but I'm looking at alternative
1:33:49
news. You
1:33:49
Adam Curry: blame you blamed
Linux. You said my Linux did it.
1:33:55
John C Dvorak: There is I got a
long note. We have a bunch of
1:33:58
guys out there that know what
they're doing. And he claims
1:34:01
that the Linux there's a couple
of products that Linux servers
1:34:05
use consistently that are spam
blockers, and we get that our
1:34:10
sites keep coming up in them.
1:34:13
Adam Curry: That's because
people report us. That's what
1:34:15
happens. That's how that's how
it happens. Douchebags, you can
1:34:18
get off for what
1:34:19
John C Dvorak: being night, for
telling the truth, for getting
1:34:22
to the bottom of things, or for
condemning Democrats. Yeah,
1:34:25
there you go.
1:34:27
Adam Curry: I think that must be
go. Look at who maintains Linux,
1:34:30
and we understand these trolls
are listening in the troll room,
1:34:34
which you can join@trollroom.io
or you can use a modern podcast
1:34:38
app, you know, the one that has
transcriptions so you can read
1:34:41
along if you're in a foreign
country and want to learn some
1:34:43
English and like, Oh, what is
this word? Oh, it's good. I get
1:34:46
it because we speak clearly. As
John pointed out earlier, by the
1:34:52
way, there was some
incompatibility with something
1:34:56
with the fountain modern podcast
that fountain for the live.
1:35:00
Show. Because the way it works
is when we send out the batch
1:35:02
signal, all these modern podcast
apps give you an alert. You tap
1:35:05
on the same place you get your
podcast, and then you can listen
1:35:07
right away. And so it was
crashing the app. Somehow we
1:35:10
fixed that. So if you were using
that before and you bailed out
1:35:13
on us, on the on the last
episode, just come back. It
1:35:16
works again. Podcast apps.com,
1:35:20
John C Dvorak: so it's a moving
target. It is, it is, it's
1:35:22
Adam Curry: a moving target. But
you know that's, that's why it's
1:35:24
worth a Nobel Peace Prize. I
heard that this past week,
1:35:30
Spotify deplatformed an
inordinate amount of episodes
1:35:34
and podcasts, and I'm getting a
list.
1:35:38
John C Dvorak: What's an
inordinate mean to you? 10, no,
1:35:41
100, 100 100
1:35:43
Adam Curry: I'd say 100 100
podcasts. That's a lot. And from
1:35:46
what I understand, most of it
were, most of these podcasts
1:35:50
were political podcasts.
1:35:53
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'd be toast
on that platform.
1:35:55
Adam Curry: You know, the we
used to have couple, we're not
1:35:58
John C Dvorak: even really
political. We're basically a
1:36:00
political it just so turns out,
yeah, yes, that we condemn one
1:36:07
side more than the other.
Although we condemn both sides
1:36:10
in
1:36:10
Adam Curry: this election, we
certainly do. I mean, I mean,
1:36:12
look the demons. Yeah, when
1:36:14
John C Dvorak: you got some
dipshit like Kamala Harris
1:36:16
running for president, people
are voting for you. You gotta be
1:36:19
honest. Do you gotta be Oculus.
You can't borderline nuts.
1:36:24
Adam Curry: You have to be
honest with the people. That's
1:36:26
just, that's just the fact, we
used to have a couple of guys
1:36:30
would upload the podcast to
YouTube, you remember that? And
1:36:33
then put, you know, just an
image in it. Some of them, I
1:36:36
think even, would put in extra
images. Yeah, and they stopped
1:36:39
doing they said, you know, I'm
getting strikes on my account.
1:36:43
Because some would, someone,
would, you know, report, or
1:36:47
whatever reason they take down
that episode, and then whoever
1:36:50
was doing that, their their
account, would get a strike.
1:36:53
Yeah, so you can see that. So
that shows that this is the only
1:36:56
place we are, the only place we
can be as, and we don't have
1:37:01
video, so we're struggling over
here, people we can't you know,
1:37:04
Linux is against our newsletter.
I mean, you got to help us out
1:37:07
here. Doesn't hurt. And you
know, what was I reading here?
1:37:15
So I already told you about the
nine minutes of ads in front of
1:37:19
the LEX Friedman, oh, so would
you consider only fans to be
1:37:24
kind of like value for value?
1:37:28
Unknown: Yeah, I would. Did you
hear their numbers?
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: Oh, there, I
can't. You're gonna make me
1:37:34
nauseous if you tell me their
numbers. I know. I mean, I had
1:37:39
Dana Brunetti wife. Is on
onlyfans. No, she's a, she's a
1:37:45
entertainment lawyer. Oh, no,
and she the inherit the she's an
1:37:53
heiress to the Bijan fashion
fortune.
1:37:56
Unknown: Oh, can she? Can she
get me a bag? She, you know, she
1:38:01
John C Dvorak: can't even get me
a sweater.
1:38:07
Okay, wait, Alex. Alex is her
name.
1:38:09
Unknown: I can just see you in a
Bijou sweater.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: So she's, it's
Bijon, I think, whatever. And
1:38:18
she's an entertainment lawyer.
And she just in passing,
1:38:21
mentioned to me about one of her
clients who was having, you
1:38:25
know, an only fans client,
person about their their never
1:38:31
mentioned who it was, but it's
one of her clients. And she said
1:38:36
she'd made 10 million last year
1:38:39
Adam Curry: only fans revenue
this past year, $7 billion
1:38:44
John C Dvorak: it's
unbelievable. Maybe, meanwhile,
1:38:47
people bitch about sending us
five bucks. Maybe we
1:38:49
Adam Curry: should, maybe we
should turn on some cameras,
1:38:51
take off our shirts. You
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: know, my pay off.
You never know. You can be
1:38:55
Adam Curry: in the troll room,
like, flip your hair. Adam,
1:38:57
okay, no problem. Yeah, I'll do
anything at this point.
1:39:01
John C Dvorak: No, yeah, and I'm
sure that the ten million girl,
1:39:05
I'm assuming it's a girl, is not
the top earner.
1:39:12
Unknown: Oh, no, I'm
1:39:13
John C Dvorak: sure there's I
didn't I should ask Alex about
1:39:15
this. But she probably, because
she's been into it enough, she
1:39:19
probably knows the top earners,
probably 50, 60 million bucks.
1:39:22
Who knows? Well,
1:39:22
Adam Curry: maybe this is a
year, maybe we can get some tips
1:39:26
on what to do, because we're
doing something wrong.
1:39:30
John C Dvorak: We're not doing
anything wrong and we're not
1:39:33
it's just as different type. But
there's, there's some people
1:39:36
that have a an allure that we
1:39:39
Adam Curry: lack. Yes, yes. I
think we lack several pieces of
1:39:44
allure. Was
1:39:45
John C Dvorak: two in
particular, yes, exactly two are
1:39:48
allures that a lot of these
girls have, yes, and I think
1:39:53
that accounts for a lot of it.
1:39:55
Adam Curry: Well, we know where
the donations are going. The
1:39:57
going to only fans stop spending
your money. They. Air, send
1:40:00
something to the best podcast in
the universe.
1:40:03
John C Dvorak: You're not
getting a date with those women.
1:40:05
Hello,
1:40:07
Adam Curry: John and Adam,
however, will come to clean your
1:40:09
house. No problem whatsoever.
Instead, we have opted for a
1:40:16
true value for value, mug club
media. The future of media is
1:40:21
small people, that's that's how
you know. I really believe that.
1:40:25
I think that, you know, you'll
have these just pockets, little
1:40:29
pockets of entertainment, and
people support them. And I'm
1:40:31
happy with, in general, happy
with the support we get. I know
1:40:34
you're never happy, but I'm
happy with the support we get.
1:40:37
No, you can't be. I'm amazed.
I'm amazed that people support
1:40:40
John C Dvorak: us at all. Yeah,
you're, you're shocked.
1:40:43
Sometimes
1:40:44
Adam Curry: I am like, What?
What? What this is actually,
1:40:47
still, hey, it'll be when is
October, right? Isn't it coming
1:40:52
up
1:40:53
John C Dvorak: the end of
October is our anniversary. But
1:40:55
we have before the at the end of
this month, we're having our
1:40:58
show 1700 Wow. And that'll be,
1:41:03
Adam Curry: Oh, that's right,
it's a seven episodes away. Oh,
1:41:06
that is the end. Yeah, it's
1:41:07
John C Dvorak: coming right up,
1:41:07
Adam Curry: though. So we have
1700 and our 17 year
1:41:11
anniversary. Is that what kind
of, what kind of
1:41:14
John C Dvorak: one two punch we
usually get some money for
1:41:16
during this period? Is not
today, necessarily, but we get
1:41:19
some money. Is
1:41:20
Adam Curry: 17 a particular
stone? Or is it a?
1:41:23
John C Dvorak: Is it a stone?
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, like a
diamond, Ruby, or is it a,
1:41:28
John C Dvorak: you know, the
book of knowledge? Who answered
1:41:30
this question? I don't have 17,
but somebody, somebody in the in
1:41:34
the troll room, the few people
that are there, one of them
1:41:37
should know what the 17th
anniversary stone is. I'd
1:41:40
Adam Curry: like to know. I am
indeed quite interested. The 17
1:41:44
whole would be my
1:41:45
Unknown: guess. Kidney No, that
1:41:47
Adam Curry: doesn't sound right.
Kid, no,
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: kidney stone is
not that'd be good. Interesting
1:41:52
ring, though I like
1:41:53
Adam Curry: it is a prime
number, though 17 is a prime
1:41:55
number. So that's, that's,
that's, there's something there
1:41:58
John C Dvorak: that is a, that's
a big deal. Yeah.
1:42:02
Adam Curry: Caroline. What
Caroline? Carnelian, carnelian,
1:42:06
or Carnelian
1:42:08
John C Dvorak: Carnelian? Yeah,
Carnelian. Those are the little
1:42:11
red stones. They actually have
met the beaches over here in San
1:42:13
Francisco, San Francisco in the
off the peninsula, not the
1:42:17
peninsula, but Marin County
beaches have Cornelius in the
1:42:22
sand that you can pick up as
1:42:25
Adam Curry: you walk along. So
it's not a very valuable stone,
1:42:27
is what you're telling Not
really. None
1:42:29
John C Dvorak: of it's just
sitting there. It's pretty
1:42:32
though.
1:42:32
Adam Curry: So the way it works,
and you've already heard some
1:42:35
boots on the ground, and we have
people we can call upon who help
1:42:38
us, because if there's one thing
about the best podcasting
1:42:41
universe, we have more and
better producers than any other
1:42:45
media outlet known to man.
That's why we can say in the
1:42:48
universe and everywhere,
somebody has some special
1:42:52
knowledge about that one thing.
And I think we've successfully
1:42:56
trained people that they are
producers, not listeners, and
1:42:59
they need to support us with
their time with their talent or
1:43:01
with their treasure. And part of
that is, of course, our Dutch
1:43:05
masters who create artwork for
every single new show. There was
1:43:09
a there was a guy who was
looking for some logo work on
1:43:12
the podcasting 2.0 development
group. And he says, Adam, I
1:43:16
really love, I really love the
artwork you guys do. Who do you
1:43:20
use?
1:43:23
Unknown: Like, who do we use
1:43:26
John C Dvorak: listening to the
show? You figure it out. It
1:43:28
really
1:43:28
Adam Curry: is, I send them a
link to no agenda Art
1:43:30
generator.com which is where
anyone who has talent or not at
1:43:34
all can upload art. And
sometimes the no talents or just
1:43:38
the prompt jockeys win. And
quite big actually, although I
1:43:41
was looking at the Latina
actually asked me, Do you still
1:43:43
have the stats? Yeah, it's still
nick the rat, Martin JJ, and
1:43:47
then comes Darren O'Neill, and
those guys are still at the top
1:43:51
for all the episodes they did.
And Nick uploads something from
1:43:55
time to time. Rarely he hasn't
really hit it. And Martin JJ, is
1:43:59
he still alive? Is he still
around? I don't see him any.
1:44:02
Yeah, he
1:44:02
John C Dvorak: posts on
mastodon. Oh, he
1:44:04
Adam Curry: does. Yeah, he How
do you know you're not on
1:44:08
mastodon? How do you know
1:44:09
John C Dvorak: this is so I'm
referring back to the last time
1:44:12
it was on Mastodon, which was
about a year ago, and he was
1:44:14
posting quite a bit. Okay, I
guess I have him confused with
1:44:19
someone else, but I don't think
so.
1:44:20
Adam Curry: I did hear from my
birthday. I did hear from
1:44:22
pelker. So he's still around.
Oh,
1:44:24
John C Dvorak: good as I wonder
if he listens to the show. I
1:44:26
Adam Curry: think so. Well,
maybe not. I don't know. I don't
1:44:29
know. Anyway, our
1:44:32
John C Dvorak: he found a new
lady and she told him to stop
1:44:35
listening. As you think that was
it. That's possible. That's
1:44:37
possible, very common. Yeah,
guys that do anything that women
1:44:41
tell them to
1:44:42
Adam Curry: Yes, see, true fans,
$7 billion
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: yes, perfect
example, only fans, not true
1:44:50
fans. Man, there's not like true
fans, though it'd be good. We
1:44:55
can start that. No, it's
1:44:56
Adam Curry: already a new
podcast app, true fans. True
1:44:59
fans. FM, that's why it was on
my brain. You saw it? Yeah, past
1:45:06
my brain. Yeah. We want to thank
correct a record who has been
1:45:09
around for a long time, who
brought us the artwork for
1:45:11
Episode 1692 we titled that one
salted ducks, and we just
1:45:16
laughed at this one. It was
Putin holding up some cash.
1:45:20
Yeah.
1:45:20
John C Dvorak: We normally don't
like putting politicians into
1:45:22
the arts. We don't make that
clear. So we don't have a bunch
1:45:25
of it happening. We
1:45:26
Adam Curry: don't. But this was
funny. It made sense in context
1:45:29
of the of the tenant media
scandal. And even had plastered
1:45:34
over there value for value. We
like the use of the Russian, you
1:45:38
know, the Cyrillic kind of font.
So
1:45:40
John C Dvorak: we chose it, yes,
yeah, I think, I think that made
1:45:43
it full, full for Cyrillic Yes.
Font worked at the top.
1:45:48
Adam Curry: There were a couple
of other decent tries. There was
1:45:53
data did niet agenda, which had
kind of an Uncle Sam puppet,
1:45:58
also with the faux Cyrillic
font. Darren O'Neill did a, he
1:46:03
tried, tried a good job there
with the podcaster vending
1:46:07
machine by a podcaster, but
didn't quite hit home. Let me
1:46:12
see, Darren also did a free
speech troll. No, the no Russian
1:46:18
money here, another corrector
record, a couple of manosphears,
1:46:21
which were which were nice, but
there was really nothing. It
1:46:25
just wasn't there was a comic
strip blogger did a but insert
1:46:30
Russian money here, and again,
he doesn't have the the prompt
1:46:34
skills that Darren O'Neill has,
because the lettering just
1:46:38
doesn't look like it's actually
on the jeans, yeah, you know.
1:46:43
And somehow Darren has figured
that out. I don't know what he's
1:46:45
using. And by the way, we've
1:46:47
John C Dvorak: looked at his
prompts, and it's like he's
1:46:50
really good. I mean, I think I
don't know where I get the sense
1:46:53
that Darren first got a clue
from comic strip blogger,
1:46:58
possibly, and then took it, took
it in a new direction. God, it's
1:47:04
like having the it's a knack
thing you get, you kind of get a
1:47:07
feeling for it, and you can just
start throwing requests at the
1:47:14
AI, and its response correctly,
1:47:17
Adam Curry: open AI.
1:47:18
John C Dvorak: It may also be, I
don't know what he's using for a
1:47:20
system. There's so many of these
1:47:22
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, there
are. Well open AI is now
1:47:25
discussing their new pricing
model for their next this is
1:47:28
going to be the the large
language model that really
1:47:31
works, the really, really good
one this time. It'll really,
1:47:34
really, really, really work. Do
you know what they're going to
1:47:37
charge per month?
1:47:39
John C Dvorak: $100 $2,000
1:47:42
Adam Curry: why? What? Yep,
yeah, for, I think it's called
1:47:47
Strawberry. Is there next? The
next release?
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
gonna work. It'll finally
1:47:53
Adam Curry: make sense with the
amount of investment that's gone
1:47:56
into it. Yes. The the new
reasoning focused LLM dubbed
1:48:01
strawberry, and a new flagship
LLM called Orion. It's finally
1:48:08
gonna work. You can alert Andrew
Horowitz. He loves this stuff.
1:48:11
It. It tells him exactly what to
do in the market,
1:48:16
John C Dvorak: and I'll bet it's
so accurate at picking stocks.
1:48:20
Yes,
1:48:21
Adam Curry: he won't have to go
to work anymore. This beautiful
1:48:26
anyway. Thank you very much.
Correct a record, but thank you
1:48:31
to all of our artists, all of
them, just like correct a
1:48:33
record, art masters Dutch fine
and Masters of Fine Art. And you
1:48:39
can join that Legion by going to
no agenda, artgenerator.com,
1:48:43
create an account if you don't
have one, upload it. You know,
1:48:45
we look at everything and we
appreciate and we'll be honest,
1:48:48
we're going to help you with
your skills. So there people
1:48:51
have got roundy. Roundy went on
to have an actual career with
1:48:55
his artistic skills, and he had
at least when he left, he
1:48:59
attributed some of that to our
critique of his work. And now he
1:49:04
works good, yes, now he works
for daily wire. He does well, I
1:49:09
think he started doing political
illustration art, yeah. And now
1:49:14
he's doing video stuff. Hey,
he's got quite a career over
1:49:17
there.
1:49:18
John C Dvorak: Spunk, so good
for him. He's a talented guy. I
1:49:21
actually prefer his fine art.
But
1:49:23
Adam Curry: yeah, I miss him. Do
all this. I miss him as long as
1:49:25
he's, you know, once he went
over there, yeah, he
1:49:27
John C Dvorak: wasn't, he was
he, he, when he was doing stuff
1:49:31
for the show, it was like, let
me get a couple of wins here,
1:49:34
and I'm out.
1:49:36
Adam Curry: See ya. See you
later, boys. Yeah, you know
1:49:39
exactly, see a boys done.
1:49:42
John C Dvorak: I'm out. We
1:49:43
Adam Curry: also like to thank
all of the producers who sent us
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doing it. That's how it works
here at mug club media.
1:50:05
John C Dvorak: I hope you should
get off. I'm gonna
1:50:07
Adam Curry: stop. I'm gonna stop
it. That was the last time it
1:50:10
just flows so nicely. But get
off. No, it doesn't okay. But
1:50:15
right. I'm stopping. Put it in
the meeting notes. We thank
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don't mention, for reasons of
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anonymity, actually had a number
of people come in under 50
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today, 4990 nines. What else did
I see here? I saw a lot of 4990
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1:51:00
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I have no idea what it is. And
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as always, we will give you a
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It's a real credit. You can use
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and we read your note. And Tony
Fitzpatrick, who sounds anything
1:51:30
but Swiss, came in with
1:51:32
John C Dvorak: exactly,
1:51:34
Adam Curry: sounds like an alias
to me, Tony Fitzpatrick from
1:51:38
Tony from fryingbach, $1,000 but
no note,
1:51:43
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's Swiss
intelligence. I
1:51:45
Adam Curry: hope well for that,
Swiss intelligence, you get a
1:51:49
double up karma. Thank you very
much.
1:51:50
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:51:56
John C Dvorak: Then we roll up
on Susan, Dame Susan of the salt
1:52:02
salner, s, o, l, D, N, E, R,
wheel. I don't know what quite
1:52:05
what that means. I don't know
either, but she is Dame Susan
1:52:09
from McKinney, Texas, $100.04
and she wrote a note in with a
1:52:18
check. Love the show. How about
some karma for the family?
1:52:22
Thanks for all the thanks and
all the best. Dame Susan of the
1:52:25
salner wheels, yes, here you go.
Thank
1:52:27
Unknown: you very sweet. You've
got karma.
1:52:32
Adam Curry: We moved to Sir JK,
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. He's in
1:52:36
De Pere, Wisconsin, 333 dot 33
one of our favorite amounts. We
1:52:41
love all the threes. Thank you,
John. And by the way, did you
1:52:44
notice all of a sudden, there's
a video going around of all the
1:52:48
30 threes, 33 cases from the
pandemic. Did you get tagged?
1:52:54
Yeah, I'm like, we, we were on
this when it actually happened.
1:52:59
Now, people like, Wow. Have you
seen this? Like,
1:53:02
John C Dvorak: yeah, we've been
talking about 30 threes for
1:53:05
1515, years, minimum. You used
to do a section on this show
1:53:11
called the magic number, yeah.
And you would read the 33
1:53:15
references for about 10 minutes,
and then it got such a to be
1:53:19
such a long segment, you just
stopped doing it.
1:53:23
Adam Curry: But also we had
boring we had super cuts and
1:53:26
everything during the pandemic.
Manners. Just
1:53:29
John C Dvorak: be pre pandemic
with this, doing it forever.
1:53:32
We're all over it. But no, we,
of course, we, we set the stage
1:53:36
for other people to take
advantage of the situation. So
1:53:39
what are you gonna do that's all
1:53:40
Adam Curry: right. That's why we
are the best podcast in the
1:53:42
universe. I
1:53:42
John C Dvorak: think some
reason, well, that among other
1:53:46
things, sir.
1:53:47
Adam Curry: JK says, Thank you,
John and Adam, I stepped away
1:53:49
for a bit, but I know it is time
to come back. Too many 30 threes
1:53:53
telling me a donation was in
order. Prosperity and abundance.
1:53:57
Karma will be greatly
appreciated. I'm a casualty of
1:54:00
the recent economic downturn, as
I was downsized back in July. So
1:54:04
I'd like a jingle rubbleizer
plus an r2, d2, karma. Thank you
1:54:07
again. John Adam, for your
dedication to media
1:54:09
deconstruction, love and let
sir. JK in Green Bay, Night of
1:54:13
the entertaining kerfuffle
1:54:16
Unknown: India. Mike standby,
1:54:21
3333 3333 33
1:54:24
barbaliser out.
1:54:31
You've got karma,
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: sir. Harry
Pilgrim, our buddy,
1:54:40
Fredericksburg, Virginia. He
1:54:42
Adam Curry: has been around with
this show for a since the
1:54:45
original Hot Pockets tour. Harry
Pilgrim, good
1:54:48
John C Dvorak: to hear you met
him. Didn't you sure did the Hot
1:54:51
Pockets sure did the sad puppy
would make all nights and Dames
1:54:56
step up and support the best
podcast in the universe without
1:54:59
doing. Nations, the exit
strategy is a no show. And JNK,
1:55:06
Sir Harry Pilgrim, Baron of
massaponics, and the
1:55:10
Rappahannock, that's right,
1:55:12
Adam Curry: sir Corby, whoever
that is, is in Hamilton, Ohio,
1:55:15
333. 33 weird. He says, things
are getting weird. Really weird.
1:55:20
This does not count, by the way,
towards our weird count. Love
1:55:24
the show. Sir Corby, thank you.
Thank
1:55:26
John C Dvorak: you very much.
Brother still stuck at six and
1:55:28
four. Now it's actually
1:55:29
Adam Curry: seven five the
latest. Count, seven for me,
1:55:33
five for you.
1:55:37
John C Dvorak: Game, wind
chimes, partridge in San Rafael,
1:55:41
California, 333 33 Yeah, we had
a good, goodly number of 333.
1:55:45
Today. Nice, nice to see in the
morning to you from the other
1:55:49
side of the San Francisco Bay,
boots on the ground. Big Pharma
1:55:52
is at it again in California,
trying to shut down compounding
1:55:55
pharmacies. I always thought
they were already shut down in
1:55:57
California in a public hearing
this Thursday, this California
1:56:01
State Board of Pharmacy, the BOP
is proposing regulations to
1:56:06
block patient access to safe
treatments like gluco
1:56:12
gluctathion, vitamin B 12,
vitamin B 12. You just buy that
1:56:18
over the counter. What's the
deal? And other infusions. I
1:56:21
guess it's because somebody
wants to blend it together and
1:56:23
have mortar and pestle, heaven
forbid. Nationwide, cancer is
1:56:27
the leading cause of death among
firefighters. A glutathione is a
1:56:32
natural antioxidant that
prevents cancer by repairing
1:56:35
cells damaged by pollution,
stress and harmful chemicals.
1:56:38
I've
1:56:38
Adam Curry: heard about this
from firefighters. They you,
1:56:40
they take it.
1:56:43
John C Dvorak: This is another,
yeah, when you get there, you
1:56:45
fight, you're gonna get that
that smoke has got to be nasty.
1:56:49
Just breathe any at any time,
let alone over and over. This is
1:56:53
another facet of our war on
compounding pharmacies, and
1:56:56
that's who makes these life
saving treatments. I encourage
1:57:00
the no agenda nation to learn
more@stopthebopp.com that's s,
1:57:06
t, O, P, the bop, bop.com. Sign
the petition. Show up. Show up
1:57:13
at the hearing virtually, or
whatever you can do to help us
1:57:16
fight back. Demand better for
our courageous firefighters.
1:57:20
Let's stop the bop. Okay,
1:57:23
Adam Curry: that was good point.
I'm all in Up next we have, we
1:57:30
have here. We have Kenny
Stevens, who sent in a note, hi,
1:57:36
$300 Hi, hi, just Hi, my
daughter, Allison, who listens
1:57:43
to your show, asked me to
listen. I am a loyal listener,
1:57:46
and sometimes listen to your
show multiple times. Is that
1:57:51
each episode?
1:57:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
that's what he means. Some
1:57:55
people listen to the show more
than once the same show. Living
1:57:59
Adam Curry: in the blue state of
Rhode Island, my vote never
1:58:01
really means anything, but I do
donate to various races outside
1:58:05
my state enclosed find my check
for $300 we appreciate the
1:58:09
checks, by the way, this
underappreciated form of people
1:58:14
in other countries laugh at our
check system. No, these stupid
1:58:18
Americans, they still use paper
checks.
1:58:23
John C Dvorak: I know, let's go
digital. Yeah,
1:58:26
Adam Curry: I think paper checks
are fantastic. I love them.
1:58:29
John C Dvorak: It's a small
document that that promises a
1:58:32
bunch of money to you via bank,
as the check is a middle man.
1:58:36
It's a great way to go do
business like
1:58:38
Adam Curry: It's like printing
your own money. It's a very
1:58:42
powerful feeling. I like it
when, when you sign a check,
1:58:45
here you go. I promise you this
money in close by my check is
1:58:49
$300 regards, Kenny Stevens an
alias. All right, Kenny, thank
1:58:53
you very much. Appreciate it.
Appreciate the check in
1:58:56
John C Dvorak: Rhode Island. He
has to be an alias. House.
1:59:01
You're not a Democrat.
1:59:03
Unknown: You're dead.
1:59:04
John C Dvorak: Sir, sir. Tooth
Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.
1:59:10
Happy eighth birthday to my
wonderful human resource, Layla.
1:59:14
Please add her to the list she's
added and give her a biscuit.
1:59:18
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday, and
1:59:21
John C Dvorak: he came in with
$223 or tooth fairy, $200.02
1:59:27
Adam Curry: a palindrome. Austin
McCullough from Hudson,
1:59:30
Wisconsin. Refer to email.
Hashtag, rates, 101, I looked.
1:59:36
I'm sure you looked. I did you
receive an email? No, I hate it
1:59:44
when that happens. Well,
1:59:45
John C Dvorak: let me take one
more look. I never looked under
1:59:48
right? So you want it so you can
1:59:49
Adam Curry: send that to notes,
N, O, T, E, S, notes at No.
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Adam Curry: And that wraps up
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Executive producers for Episode
1693 on our way to 1700 That'll
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be exciting to celebrate 1700
episodes with you, John, 1700 we
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were talking, we were talking
about relationships the other
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day. And like, that's funny,
John and I don't really have a
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relationship. We just, I guess
we have a working relationship,
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but
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John C Dvorak: we just, we're we
talk professionally, yes,
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Adam Curry: but after, I mean,
I've been with you in three
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years, and remember, four more
to go, I will have been with you
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longer than any of my marriages.
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's to
be expected,
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fight. It's beautiful. Thank you
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Unknown: our formula is this, we
go out. We hit people in the
2:02:10
mouth. Shut
2:02:19
up. Slay. Shut up. Shut up.
Slave,
2:02:25
shut up. Slave, shut up. All
right, get
2:02:28
John C Dvorak: one international
clip out of the way.
2:02:31
Adam Curry: Oh boy.
International clip riots
2:02:34
John C Dvorak: in France. France
the new prime minister.
2:02:36
Everyone's bent out of shape
about this guy? Yes,
2:02:41
Adam Curry: is it France? New pm
protests? Is that that would
2:02:44
Unknown: be itchy, angry
demonstrators from the left
2:02:46
turned out across France to
protest President Emmanuel
2:02:50
Macron decision to appoint a
Conservative Prime Minister
2:02:53
rather than a candidate from
among their ranks and Paris.
2:02:56
Eleanor Beardsley reports, while
no party got a majority, the
2:03:00
leftist coalition got the most
votes in a snap legislative
2:03:03
elections this summer. Voters on
the left say they're the ones
2:03:09
who kept the far right from
taking power. Yet their votes
2:03:13
are not being respected in the
choice of the new prime
2:03:15
minister. They accused Macron of
stealing the election. Macron's
2:03:19
choice was 70 year old Michel
bounier, a veteran politician
2:03:24
who he sees as a steady hand for
the country after divisive
2:03:27
elections. But protesters are
demanding a prime minister from
2:03:31
the left and a political program
that will begin with bringing
2:03:35
the retirement age back down to
62 they say their protests will
2:03:39
continue.
2:03:40
Adam Curry: Well, this is and
actually, I have a follow on
2:03:42
clip to this, because I've been
following this as well. This is
2:03:44
bull crap, because it was really
the far right who got most of
2:03:49
the votes, but the left, the
entire left and center said, Oh
2:03:55
no, we're not going to let you
into govern we're going to all
2:03:59
be together. And even though we
hate each other and can't decide
2:04:02
on anything, we just don't want
you far right to run the
2:04:05
country. And so then, and then
they go out and which, I think
2:04:08
this is actually a kind of a
good choice
2:04:13
John C Dvorak: for the guy's
pretty uh even keeled, yeah, I
2:04:16
think it's a good choice too.
2:04:17
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, he, by
the way, far right is bull crap,
2:04:22
because this guy, actually, I
have a who is Michel Barnier.
2:04:26
Clip. Who is
2:04:27
Unknown: Michel Barnier,
France's new prime minister.
2:04:30
Michel Barnier is a member of
the Republicans, a right wing
2:04:33
political party. The 73 year old
is set to be the oldest Prime
2:04:36
Minister in modern France's
Fifth Republic history,
2:04:39
replacing 34 year old Gabriel
Ital, who was the youngest
2:04:42
Barnier, is a seasoned
politician with a diverse
2:04:45
background as a foreign
agriculture and Environment
2:04:47
Minister in numerous governments
in the world of European
2:04:50
politics. However, he is better
known for his former role as the
2:04:53
EU's Brexit negotiator, which
earned him the nickname Monsieur
2:04:57
Brexit as Brussels top
negotiator. Barnier made a name
2:05:00
for himself as a strong defender
of EU institutions against the
2:05:04
UK's nationalist Brexit
politicians like Boris Johnson
2:05:07
in 2021 however, there came a
shift when Barnier ran for the
2:05:11
presidency against Macron,
transitioning from a pro EU
2:05:14
politician to embracing a French
nationalist stance. He advocated
2:05:19
for the superiority of French
sovereignty over the EU,
2:05:22
offering to develop a non EU
immigration policy. He also
2:05:25
opposed the powers of the
European Court of Justice and
2:05:28
the European Court of Human
Rights over the French states.
2:05:30
Barney's Republicans party only
has 39 deputies out of 577 seats
2:05:35
in the National Assembly, and
will need the support of far
2:05:38
right leader Marine Le Pen's
national rally party Le Pen has
2:05:41
said she would wait for Bonnie's
first policy speech in front of
2:05:44
Parliament to decide whether to
back him. If she does, it would
2:05:47
be a far right backed government
under Macron. Far Right. He has
2:05:50
long portrayed himself as the
last defense against the rise of
2:05:53
Le Pen. The question is, has
Macron handed the far right a
2:05:57
major win? Far Right,
2:06:01
Adam Curry: you know, the French
should be delighted,
2:06:03
John C Dvorak: guys of he's a
French guy. He's French. Yes,
2:06:06
he's for France. He's a, you
know, the, yeah, he's a,
2:06:10
basically, a French guy.
2:06:12
Adam Curry: He they should be
delighted. Should be delighted
2:06:14
with him. No,
2:06:15
John C Dvorak: they're the
globalists, aren't they're they
2:06:17
hate, they hate the French, they
hate the they hate all these
2:06:20
countries, they want to be one
giant, you know Reich,
2:06:24
Adam Curry: exactly, and and if
Trump wins, you're going to see
2:06:30
the same thing happen in the
United States. You're going to
2:06:33
see the left nut jobs, the
globalists come out and go
2:06:37
insane. I can guarantee it.
There was always Trump doesn't
2:06:41
win, it's gonna be civil war.
Now, if Trump wins, they're all
2:06:45
gonna go ape crap, or, I should
say ape shit. Really
2:06:50
John C Dvorak: ape crap. I'm so
show titles. I'm
2:06:53
Adam Curry: so used to saying
crap instead of shit that I said
2:06:56
ape crap doesn't sound right.
Don't you think
2:07:01
John C Dvorak: absolutely,
there's no doubt about it, that
2:07:05
they're gonna kind of a replay
of 2016 although it's gonna have
2:07:08
to change some of their
strategies, because we're
2:07:10
getting sick of the old
arguments. And the people that
2:07:13
are that are coming out, are the
ones that I always retweeting.
2:07:17
Are they, you know, crazy
looking people that are look
2:07:21
like women or guys. You don't
even know what sex they are, and
2:07:24
they got the big nose rings
right in the nostril, nothing
2:07:27
right in the middle. I want a
cow.
2:07:29
Adam Curry: How many of those
people do you really think there
2:07:31
are?
2:07:34
John C Dvorak: I don't think
there's that many. No, but they
2:07:37
have a there's not a lot, but
they have a high profile, and
2:07:40
then they're fun to mock. And
there's a lot of teachers that
2:07:45
fall into that category, which
is really a scary part. That's,
2:07:48
Adam Curry: it's that's
distressing. Okay, I'm gonna
2:07:52
walk into your beat. I can't
help it, but this is it. Is your
2:07:56
beat, and I'm taking it down to
the depths you have not been
2:08:00
able to go before because
Kristen Welker, who doesn't know
2:08:04
her for Meet the Press, I
2:08:06
John C Dvorak: was watching her
this morning, and you did those
2:08:08
hands of hers. You're like an
old black laborer. They're huge
2:08:13
and they're they're not made up
at all. You know, you're
2:08:16
supposed to do hand makeup to
lighten them up or something.
2:08:19
Yeah,
2:08:19
Adam Curry: it does yellow. They
2:08:21
John C Dvorak: don't do anything
with their hands.
2:08:24
Adam Curry: We're looking at
this purely from a television
2:08:27
production standpoint, yeah,
yeah, obviously I don't care.
2:08:29
Well, I'm just making sure
everybody but
2:08:31
John C Dvorak: it is distressing
to watch it
2:08:34
Adam Curry: either don't use
your hands or yellow. Her up,
2:08:37
was what John just said. Okay,
2:08:41
John C Dvorak: well, they yell
her, they yellow her up, but
2:08:43
they don't do anything with
their hands.
2:08:45
Adam Curry: I know which I, you
know, I'm
2:08:47
John C Dvorak: very pale. So
when they, when I was doing TV,
2:08:49
yeah, they would make me up your
hands and do the same. I always,
2:08:53
you always tell them that you
have to tell the makeup artist
2:08:55
to do it, because they rather
not. But you tell them you get
2:09:00
through some of my hands
because, because if you're, if
2:09:02
you're made up, and you're
darkened up a little bit, and
2:09:04
then you lift your hand, it
looks like a skeletal hand was
2:09:08
super white, you know. It
doesn't work. And so, yeah, and
2:09:11
they make up ours always, oh
yes, yes, yes, that's a good
2:09:14
idea, you know.
2:09:15
Adam Curry: And by the way,
these days, I mean, a lot has
2:09:18
changed since we were in
television, John, in fact, the
2:09:21
biggest change is we used to
have blue screen. Now it's green
2:09:24
screen. People, that's how old
we are. I remember when it was
2:09:28
blue screen,
2:09:31
John C Dvorak: but also screen
was the original.
2:09:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, the original
key, key color. But now,
2:09:39
nowadays they don't have pancake
makeup. They have spray. It's a
2:09:44
spray on, and you just go and
spray right on. So they could
2:09:48
easily spray the hands. It'll
take 30 seconds, 30 seconds to
2:09:53
spray the hands. Anyway, yeah,
so I am diving into a trend,
2:09:57
which you identified months and
months ago. Ago as something
2:10:01
new, something that is probably
well, that has always been the
2:10:05
question, is it even
constitutional? And here's the
2:10:07
opening salvo, 54
2:10:09
Unknown: year old father, Colin
gray faces 14 charges, including
2:10:13
four counts of involuntary
manslaughter, two counts of
2:10:17
second degree murder and eight
counts of Cruelty to Children.
2:10:20
The director of the Georgia
Bureau of Investigation saying
2:10:23
the father, quote, knowingly
allowed his son to possess a
2:10:26
weapon. Law enforcement sources
telling NBC News he gifted his
2:10:30
son an AR 15 style rifle after
both of them were interviewed in
2:10:35
May of 2023 by the FBI in
connection with threats to carry
2:10:39
out a school shooting. Colin
Gray's arrest comes just months
2:10:42
after James and Jennifer
Crumbley became the first
2:10:45
parents to be convicted for a
school shooting committed by
2:10:48
their child. Their son killed
four students in Oxford,
2:10:51
Michigan in 2021 so
2:10:53
Adam Curry: you identified this
right away as a new trend, which
2:10:56
is lock the parents up for the
things that the kids have done
2:11:00
and we've seen
2:11:01
John C Dvorak: and I to go
further, I I believe it to be a
2:11:05
racist trend, because I think
the long term target is the
2:11:09
black family.
2:11:11
Adam Curry: That's right,
because about that, yes, I'd
2:11:13
forgotten
2:11:14
John C Dvorak: about this, and I
believe this is just opening
2:11:16
salvos. So you can say, Well, we
did it the whites, and now we
2:11:19
can do it the blacks, and
they're going to go when they go
2:11:21
when they go after the black
family, especially those single
2:11:24
moms who raise a bunch of kids
that aren't are not well well
2:11:28
behaved. Let's put it that way.
There. It's going to cause
2:11:32
issues, but they've got, they're
going to, they're going to back
2:11:34
it up with it, doing it to the
white families, at least one or
2:11:37
two more. Then, then you're
going to see it happened, and
2:11:40
it's going to cause nothing but
trouble.
2:11:43
Adam Curry: So of course, this
was politicized. I'm actually
2:11:45