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John C Dvorak: No, just load up.
Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, Thursday,
Adam Curry: September 12, 2024
this is your award winning
Gilbert nation. Media
assassination Episode 1694,
Unknown: this is no agenda.
Adam Curry: We are hyperscalers,
and we're broadcasting live from
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Country, right here in FEMA
Region. Number six in the
morning. Everybody. I'm Adam
curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all
asking the question as to why
did MTV become a station ground
for Satanists. I'm John C
Dvorak. It's
Unknown: Craig Vaughn
Adam Curry: and buzzkill in the
morning. Oh, man, you actually
watched.
John C Dvorak: I caught it by
accident.
Adam Curry: First of all, what a
who's doing the scheduling over
there? What a dumb, dumb timing
to do the MTV awards?
John C Dvorak: Well, like I
said, I didn't watch it. I
didn't I was just going through
channels, and I ran, actually
ran into the span onto the
Spanish channel. So it was all
subtitled to try to learn a
little more Spanish, yeah, and I
just caught the end of it. It
was terrible. And
Adam Curry: here's a good idea,
let's do a big award show with
Satanists on 911
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's pretty
funny. I
Adam Curry: i could not this the
first time in, oh man, 3030,
something years, I just I could
not watch, but I have no best
John C Dvorak: part. What did I
Well, trans Maoist stuff at the
end,
Unknown: oh goodness. See,
Adam Curry: this is, this is why
I'm happy I didn't watch. Did
you know what to expect? It's
the same every single year.
Actually, I think I I decided
not to watch when I read this
article from CNBC, when viewers
tune into the 2024, MTV VMAs,
which, by the way, that's,
that's just a little craw here
for me, stuck on my craw. But
well, because back in my day, we
would say VMAs, and then the
producer would come on and go,
Yeah, that's a burn. You have to
say Video Music Awards. You
can't say VMAs. Oh, interesting.
They wouldn't let us say
John C Dvorak: that. Actually, I
should stop. Just mentioned
before I forget that when I
tuned it in, by accident, I
thought it was the adult video
movie award because I did the
outfits. The outfit now scantly
glad that was a show
Adam Curry: back in the day the
AVN avns, yeah, with the same
time was Ava, dull video, no, I
think it was AVN wasn't it? Um,
wasn't that same time as Comdex,
I want to say
John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, it
was, you did crossover, yeah,
yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, honey, I
really have to go to Comdex this
year. It's really important, you
know, I'll just go the last few
days. That's always better.
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of the award show. I was done
like, no, no, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
John C Dvorak: You have to watch
these religiously, yes, but you
Adam Curry: know, and then I'd
report, and it's a grumbling,
grumbling the whole while. Yeah,
hey, guess what? Satanism.
Satanism. Again. Guess what?
Everybody, Satanism. So I got
tired of that. You know, we're
in this I did have a for the
first time in many, many years.
I had a moment of weakness. The
other day. I said the Ts, I
really love my job, but I'm
tired of the loop. You know, the
media has just become so
predictable, so dumb, and you
know, most people are starting
to figure it out. You know, it's
like, how much longer before I,
you know, before I do something
drastic? Don't you ever have
that feeling? And we're just in
this perpetual loop.
John C Dvorak: It always he has
enough. It's like, it's like a
stamp collecting,
Adam Curry: podcasting. Just
like stamp collecting, yeah?
Another thing chicks think is
really hot, yeah, sure. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah. The chicks
would all go from the podcasters
and the stamp collectors, the
stamp collectors and figurines,
action figures, Star
Adam Curry: Trek action figures,
Star
John C Dvorak: Trek,
specifically, chick magnet.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: so I interrupted you
about the poop loop you were
going to say,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
I was going to say now.
Adam Curry: Well, you were
saying the news has enough, and
then you said, stamp collecting.
Guys said, Don't you get tired
of the of the cycle of this
continuous No, I
John C Dvorak: find it. It's
interesting because they, they.
They're not standing still.
They're always doing new stuff.
I have a number of debate clips
here, and to dig into the
deconstruction to find these
little idiosyncratic things,
let's talk about the debate.
Well, let
Adam Curry: me start for one
second, and then I'll let you
get to get your clips. Clips.
You've got clips. Yes, here's
how the meeting went. Mr.
President, you were so effective
on the previous debate. You were
calm and collected. More of
that, please.
Unknown: They're eating the
dogs.
Adam Curry: Mr. President,
that's not exactly what we
meant.
John C Dvorak: That's great
stuff. But first of all, what
did you think? Who won?
Adam Curry: Well, I have, I have
a different thoughts than who
won. If you want to hear them,
I'll tell you what I thought.
First of all, I never
underestimate President Trump's
ability to effectively
communicate to the American
people. You know, he's a UFC,
he's a showbiz guy. He
understands, he understands the
American psyche. But this was
not his arena. This was not a
debate. This was not a UFC
Smackdown. This was a courtroom.
Now, if you've ever been in
court, and I recognize this
this, it's a very uneasy
experience when the other side,
whether it's whether if it's a
civil case, or if a prosecutor
is up there, is making their
case against you, even if
they're not lying, it can make
you question yourself. And I
remember this so well from my
MTV domain name case, people
should look it up, if you don't
know, because it was very clear
to me how that went down. They
said, Oh, you know, you can, you
can use it. Don't worry. We've
got the AOL keyword. We're not
interested in the internet. Yes,
exactly. We're not interested.
And and then the the Viacom
lawyer stood up and they
explained the version of the
truth from their side and and it
was the same feeling I had were
watching this, you know this,
this courtroom drama was not a
not a debate by any stretch of
the imagination. And I was like,
Oh, I recognize this feeling.
This is what happens when you're
in a courtroom. So when the
truth is being bent or told from
a different perspective, or if
it's a lie, you can't help but
respond. So this trolling that
Vice President Harris did, she's
an expert at this, because she's
a prosecutor, and I think that
he was unprepared for that, and
it made him protest too much,
and we were the jury. We were
the jury watching this, knowing
our version of the truth, and
had to shut up and sit silently
as you do in the jury box. So
her gestures, her glances,
looking straight at the
defendant, all courtroom drama,
but this, of course, isn't Judge
Judy, it wasn't a debate. This
is a representation, actually,
of the US legal system as it is
today. And in this case, we had
two judges instead of
moderators, and we the neuter
jury were sitting on the
sidelines. So afterwards, and
this is maybe where my fatigue
came from, all the discussion
that ensued was just part of the
culture war economy. You know,
cable news, big podcast names
like code Bongino and Megyn
Kelly and Beck and everyone's
always but they felt gypped.
Now, on the other hand, I I have
trust in the real American
people, not the culture war
economy, who are struggling, who
heard his repeated messages
about the economy, repetition
works about immigration, yes,
they're eating the dogs. I think
was genius, because in America
today, but around the world, but
in America, certainly we got fur
babies. We got dog tours. Oh,
someone's kid got raped and
killed. Tough luck. What they're
coming for the dogs. I think
that actually worked and war. So
I can't say that there was a win
for the for for the for the
talkers. Kamala Harris did a
phenomenal job as a prosecutor.
She didn't really say much, or
didn't say anything. Explain
much about her.
John C Dvorak: A lot. She did a
great job of that. But
Adam Curry: would you agree that
this was a she's a prosecutor,
and this is what she has done
her entire life, and Trump was
not prepared. And quite
honestly, I don't think you can
prepare to be in the witness box
or be on trial in a courtroom.
Just look at how Trump is in the
courtroom. It's very difficult.
And really, as a witness, you
had your lawyer can do stuff for
you, ie your surrogates, but you
really, you're defenseless in
that case. And so, for that
matter, if there's a win, I
think it's on Trump's side,
because he got his message out.
Can. Consistently, He showed
that he was angry if there's a
win for the what I call Mo, and
I just came up with this, the
culture war economy. It was
Harris. So, you know, not
really. And also, I'm not so
sure this so called debate
changes anyone's opinion.
John C Dvorak: Well, that I
think you're right. And that
analysis, which I've not heard,
I have a couple gotchas in my
stuff too, but that is
excellent. I think you probably
nailed it the I think the public
saw it as a Harris win. I think
everyone saw it as Harris. And I
watched it with a group. I had
Jay and her husband with your
church group, with a church
group of Democrats.
Adam Curry: Oh, so you were
watching the room,
John C Dvorak: and so they were
all, you know, just pleased this
punch about the whole thing. But
the funny thing was, we had it
on tape delay so we could stop
it. And JC, actually, in the
middle of he was here in the
middle of the the dog just
before, as the dog thing came
out, he he had looked into the
dog thing and the Haitians and
gave us about a seven minute
lecture as during pause on how
The Haitians eat stray animals
in Haiti, and it's not uncommon
for them to do that, and they
don't think it's a big deal. And
he had a lot of background
information on this, and I
thought that was and that's
true. That is absolutely true,
absolutely true. And so it's not
without outside the realm or
crazy talk to think that this
could be going on in
Springfield. There's a lot of
evidence for it. Now, my clips
are about the lying on on one
side or the other, mostly on the
parasite. She was a big liar. Oh
yeah, but, but the but I would
say that the summary that right
after the event, Rachel Maddow
and I have the clip, uh, did a
because this is interesting. I
recorded this thing on I on
YouTube video, I click, I I
agree, and it showed the check
mark. I recorded it on ABC, NBC,
Fox and MSNBC, you were going
for bear only. MSNBC recorded.
Unknown: Oh, isn't that
interesting?
John C Dvorak: I thought so. But
okay, I can, because I wanted
the fox one, but I the MSNBC one
was fine. That gave me the
Rachel thing at the end. So
Rachel Maddow comes out and does
a summary, and I think this was
the summary that most Democrats
as the way Democrats thought. I
think she did a wonderful job of
summarizing from the Democrat
perspective, exactly, sorry,
wait, wait, exactly what was,
what was being thought. Now I
want to mention, before you play
this, I don't know why. First of
all, we noticed a couple of
things. One, when they first
showed her, she had huge bags
under her eyes. Yeah, that were
like, What happened to this
woman? And then they fit
somebody, I guess, saw it in on
the monitor, and they went out
with the makeup person and
sprayed them. She looked
terrible, and she was almost in
tears, as she's giving this
little spiel here, she's like
crying, almost crying, for some
reason, she gets this kind of
maudlin style of presentation.
She's like borderline in tears.
I have no idea why, but here we
go. You
Unknown: could not have two more
different candidates with two
more different approaches to the
task at hand here, I had a
television executive once tell
me that everything you need to
know about a live event on
television, you can tell with
that, with the sound off. And if
you had the sound off for this
debate, which I'm sure nobody
did, what's funny, that's
Adam Curry: how I watch Rachel
Maddow all the time, she's
absolutely right. Yes, very
good.
Unknown: And if you had the
sound off for this debate, which
I'm sure nobody did. What you
would have seen was Trump
looking physically hunched,
angry, squinting, I never saw
the whites of his eyes. The
entire debate, shouting,
constantly interrupting himself,
not just going down tangents,
but being unable to finish a
thought seeming very frustrated,
very angry, very negative and
very tired. In contrast, Kamala
Harris appeared to be sort of
light on her feet, quite puzzled
by him. The two shot of him
squinting and hunching and
having seeming be having
physical trouble squeezing the
words out, certainly squeezing
the sentences out, while she
just looked at him, absolutely
puzzled by where it was he was
going. I think that visual may
be as much of a takeaway as
anything that was said. That
said, Boy, what was said? Trump,
repeatedly coming back to the
same lines over and over. Over
again about world crime rates
being low because not being the
explanation for America having
high crime rates. He said
strange things, like all
Democrats wanted Roe versus Wade
overturned. He said that it is
legal to kill children in the
United States. He insisted that
he saw something on television
about eating dogs, that was one
of the weirdest moments of the
debate, saying he saw it on
television. So therefore he
knows it's true, and so
therefore what the police said
about it can't be true. Kamala
Harris kept going back to her
plan her campaign, but also kept
going directly at him,
yeah, that sounds about right.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. There was a
big lie in there, a massive lie.
And my theme here is going to be
lie. You are what, uh, I am,
what I say you are,
Adam Curry: what yourself be,
yourself, which
John C Dvorak: was evident in
the lie that she had in there.
In the last 10 seconds, she told
a a whopper that you didn't
catch. Well,
Adam Curry: it to me, it was
all, what? What did she say?
John C Dvorak: She said that the
police had denied that there
were dog eating
Adam Curry: dogs. Yeah, the
police, I have body cam footage
of police in Springfield, it's
24 seconds. We
John C Dvorak: all seen that.
Well, not everybody, not
everybody.
Adam Curry: Let me just 24
seconds. Let me play it so
people have heard it. Please
sort it.
Unknown: What did you do?
Why'd you kill the cat? Did you
eat that cat? Did you eat it
now? Why'd you kill it? Did you
guys see all this? No, we pulled
up and she was just laying there
with him. Do
you see her eating it? She was
eating it. Yeah, she was gonna
call the Humane Society see if
they'll come pick those cat up.
It's deceased.
Adam Curry: Did did JC and his
cat analysis of Haitians? Did he
bring up the voodoo and
religious No, no, because
there's, there's that too in
Haiti, there's a lot of,
John C Dvorak: yeah, there's a
lot of animals. So, so she said,
and she was referring to David
Muir interrupting Trump during
the dog speech. And David Muir
specifically, and did it more
than once, I think twice, at
least, said it was the city
manager. Yes, the city manager
is not the police. It's not the
head of police, it's not the
chief of police. It's not
anything, no, that would have
anything. The chief the city
manager, is basically a
glorified bookkeeper who makes
sure that the city runs, uh,
oversees this and hiring and
things like that. He wouldn't
know the crime in the town to
this extent that they were
talking about, but they brought
up, I guess somebody at ABC
called the city manager, but
Rachel twisted that to say the
police. Yeah, that is a lie.
Adam Curry: Oh, surprise.
John C Dvorak: So let's listen
to the dog thing, because it is
funny. I have two. I have the
clip in the follow up clip about
Trump and his dog. Now I have to
say this. I thought that rate,
that not Rachel the that Kamala
had done an excellent job of
mugging. And I thought she if
there was going to be a winner,
she won. But then as I started
getting doing the clips and
taking chunks and not looking at
at the visuals. It was like it
reminded me a little bit of the
Kennedy Nixon debates, and I'll
go back in history, because it
was talked about a lot. If you
watched it on TV, there was they
did two polls. People who
watched it on TV thought Kennedy
won, and people who listened on
the radio thought Nixon won. Ah
yes,
Adam Curry: I remember this.
This is a big deal. And
John C Dvorak: when you start
listening to it, and just
listening to the clips, or even
seeing just clips, even though
you can't see some visuals,
Trump won,
Adam Curry: that's what that's
what I mean by all of his little
nuggets that he kept repeating,
those are the ones he
John C Dvorak: had a lot of gems
in there. But the dog thing,
which is the most interesting,
because it was the most
outrageous and got the most
attention, was actually quite
good. And the way he did it, I
can imagine his handlers going
nuts about it. But at the same
time, if you listen to these
clips just by themselves, like
we're gonna do now, there's, I
got the front end of it and the
end of it where she goes, thinks
it's nuts. I think it's genius.
And then to David Muir and his
associate there to interrupt him
with the city manager, said, no
that that makes it worse, but
let's play these,
Unknown: and I'm going to
actually do something really
unusual, and I'm going to invite
you to attend one of Donald
Trump's rallies, because it's a
really interesting thing to
watch. You will see during the
course of his rallies, he talks
about fictional characters like
Hannibal Lecter. He will talk
about when Mills cause cancer.
And what you will also notice is
that people start leaving his
rallies early out of exhaustion
and boredom. I. And I will tell
you, the one thing you will not
hear him talk about is you. You
will not hear him talk about
your needs, your dreams and your
needs and your desires. And I'll
tell you I believe you deserve a
president who actually puts you
first, and I pledge to you that
I will first. Let me
respond this to the rallies she
said, people started leaving.
People don't go to her rallies.
There's no reason to go this,
Adam Curry: by the way. That
was, that was an excellent troll
by her, and she got him to
defend it. That was, it was,
John C Dvorak: well, actually, I
will, should mention this. Chris
Hayes had an analysis of all her
uh resp, and I thought it was
pretty good. I didn't clip it,
but he did say that she was
doing binary responses, where
she say one thing and then troll
Trump as a one two punch, and he
claims it worked. I think it
kind of worked.
Adam Curry: It worked with with
crowd size.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they like,
they love to give him crap about
that. Didn't work
Adam Curry: with you disrespect
the military. He never took that
bait. And she tried it maybe
five times. She kept trying,
trying.
John C Dvorak: It did work once,
when he went on about how that
he had fired these people, and
then they, they turned on him.
Yeah. But
Adam Curry: she was, you know
what she was calling she was
talking about, oh yeah. She
John C Dvorak: was trying. John
Kelly, is the is the bet is the
bad actor. The guy was a creep.
Anyway, if you look at his
background, let's continue. She
said
Unknown: people started leaving.
People don't go to her rallies.
There's no reason to go. And the
people that do go, she's busting
them in and paying them to be
there and then showing them in a
different light. So she can't
talk about that. People don't
leave my rallies. We have the
biggest rallies, the most
incredible rallies in the
history. This is where
Adam Curry: Tina threw up her
hands stop doing that. This is,
this is where the jury in the
jury box is like, what are you
doing
Unknown: politics? That's
because people want to take
their country back. Our country
is being lost. We're a failing
nation, and it happened three
and a half years ago. And what?
What's going on here? You're
going to end up in world war
three, just to go into another
subject, what they have done to
our country by allowing these
millions and millions of people
to come into our country and
look at what's happening to the
towns all over the United
States. And a lot of towns don't
want to talk it's not going to
be Aurora or Springfield. A lot
of towns don't want to talk
about it because they're so
embarrassed by it. In
Springfield, they're eating the
dogs, the people that came in,
they're eating the cats. They're
eating they're eating the pets
of the people that live there.
And this is what's happening in
our country, and it's a shame.
I just want to clarify here. You
bring up Springfield, Ohio, and
ABC News did reach out to the
city manager there. He told us
there have been no credible
reports of specific claims of
pets being harmed, injured or
abused by individuals within the
immigrant community, people on
television. Let me just say
here, this is the people
on television say my dog was
taken and used for food. So
maybe he said that, and maybe
that's a good thing to say for a
city manager. I'm
not taking this from television.
Dog was eaten by
the people that went there.
John C Dvorak: Now the question
is, because, why is he getting
into a debate with Muir?
Adam Curry: Because this
happened throughout the
John C Dvorak: whole of the
whole of
Adam Curry: it, because Muir is
the judge, the judge, I'm just
seeing it from a courtroom
perspective. He's like, hey,
Judge, you're wrong and shut up.
Judge, that's not your job. Let
Kamala, let the prosecutor, uh,
make her Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: Yes. Well, that's
definitely going on. So he kind
of does have a comeback here,
which I guess is memorable.
Unknown: Regardless, Trump has
continued to strike a positive.
I'm sorry,
John C Dvorak: does that part?
No, no, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry, my
mistake. Hold on. You have it on
all caps. It's a little hard to
read sometimes, um, interesting.
Wait, where is it? Yes, I got
it. Here again, the
Unknown: Springfield city
manager says there's no evidence
of that. Vice President, I'll
let you respond to the rest of
what
you've heard talk about extreme
you know, this is, I think, one
of the reasons why in this
election, I actually have the
endorsement of 200 Republicans
who have formally worked with
President Bush, Mitt Romney and
John McCain, including the
endorsement of former Vice
President Dick Cheney and
Congress member Liz Cheney.
She's no longer in Congress.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: that's a lie.
Then yes, by the standards they
put on Trump, debt would be a
lie, just
Adam Curry: to intersperse this
debate analysis. So it's not all
just debate clips. I want to
just focus for a moment on
Springfield. First of all, one
of our producers went there and
he Texas junta. He said, I went
to see what was going on with
the Haitians. He said he went to
Springfield for a day. He just
went there to see what was going
on. He said, Holy cow, Haitians
are everywhere. He said he went
to the auto parts store a line
of Haitians getting things for
their cars. One guy in line
actually had to activate the
card he was using before he
made. Purchase you see where
he's coming from. So it's very
obvious what is happening in
Springfield, but then I found
from two days ago,
coincidentally, a PBS Frontline
piece on what's happening in
Springfield. I took, took two
relatively short clips from it.
This is exactly and when Trump
says people around the country
are seeing it, I think that hits
home, because whether it's
eating the dogs or driving like
crazy or gumming up the public
works, this is happening
everywhere. I've seen it for the
past 25 years, in the
Netherlands, where they bring in
immigrants, they throw them into
these small towns. In this case,
this is exactly what the bankers
wanted. We've talked about it.
Suppress wages, bring in cheap
workers, and this is what PBS
discovered boots on the ground
in Springfield, Ohio. The reason
Unknown: they left is their home
country is disintegrating.
Protests and increasing violence
in the Caribbean nation
culminated in the assassination
of President Jovenel Moise in
2021 since then, the country
spiraled. Armed gangs currently
control 80% of the capital. Port
de Prince mirceous is one of the
estimated 731,000 Haitian
immigrants now living in the
United States. I
got my brothers and sisters, my
mother still living there. I'm
always thinking about my family
in Haiti
because of that violence, the US
granted what's called Temporary
Protected Status to Haitians in
the US, giving them limited time
permission to live and work
here. TPS was then expanded by
the Biden administration. Mr.
Says he came to Springfield for
the same reason most Haitians
did. He heard that housing was
cheap and jobs were plentiful.
What started slowly, we had an
application pool that was a
little bit different. People
coming to work here, people
looking for jobs. What he's
welding here again, are welded
axle components. Jamie
McGregor is the CEO of McGregor
metal, which makes welded parts
for the auto and farm
industries. Right now, about 10%
of his workforce is Haitian,
over 30 employees.
I wish I had 30 more. Our
Haitian associates come to work
every day. They don't have a
drug problem. They will stay at
their machine. They will achieve
their numbers. They are here to
work, and so in general, that's
that's a stark difference from
what we're used to in our
community.
Adam Curry: So this is exactly
what the real story in America
is, particularly in the Midwest.
You look at Ohio. First, we
spread fentanyl everywhere, and
opioids, everyone got drugged
out. No one could work properly.
No one wanted to work then the
Biden administration expands the
TP, yes,
John C Dvorak: oh, it's just
gonna say that was, that
couldn't have been from
frontline. Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: PBS Frontline.
John C Dvorak: You sure wasn't
NewsHour, because that was
William Brangham, and he only is
on for on newshour.
Adam Curry: I may be wrong. I
thought it was frontline. It
could be NewsHour,
John C Dvorak: minor difference.
Just it is a difference where
they present okay and bring them
at NewsHour is more likely to be
biased. So it so if they brought
that out there, I think it's
even more important
Adam Curry: Good point. So we
drug Middle America. The
industrial base was shipped off
to China. Now the bankers want
to bring it back, but not for
American workers. No, no. We
can't have those idiots working
and creating we need cheap
labor. And there's a war going
on, you know, a civil war going
on. Haiti, notice we didn't go
in to fix it like the last time.
No, let the Jamaicans go in. Let
the Nigerians go in. No, no,
we'll just take 731,000 and give
them work permits. That's what
TPS is. We expanded it under
Biden Harris, and then you get
this willing
Unknown: McGregor acknowledges
the sudden arrival of so many
new immigrants is a challenge on
multiple fronts, but he believes
this is partly how the
industrial Midwest can regrow.
We want more jobs
in our community, and in order
to fill those jobs, some jobs
need to be people who are not
originally from here.
There's things in the last five
years that have really changed
and has been a forward
improvement for Springfield, but
this is taxing the resources of
the city. Springfield's
Mayor Rob Rue says he was
cautiously optimistic when the
first Haitians settled in town,
but then their numbers quickly
rose. The city estimates 12 to
15,000 Haitians are here now.
The infrastructure of the city,
our safety forces, our
hospitals, our schools,
Springfield is a close community
and has a big heart, but at the
same point, we've had this
influx that has taxed all these
services. Now,
Adam Curry: the way I see it,
this mayor's an idiot, because
you need you know that this is
going to happen. And now he's
like, oh, we need money. Okay,
so this, this whole thing, is a
setup from the beginning. Thing.
And I think that's why it
resonates with Americans who
probably are already Trump
voters, but maybe people who are
agnostic and just struggling and
saying, you know, this is this
really something here? Because
it is, this is this is the
problem. This is exactly what,
what, what has been going on,
and it's structural, and it's
the central bankers really, uh,
in collusion with the Biden
administration who expanded TPS.
Why don't we go in there and fix
the Civil War? No, no, we'll
just take everybody here. We
need them anyway. There you go.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I'm
gonna get back to my theme,
Adam Curry: yes, of course. I'm
just saying this for
Unknown: for effect.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to bonus
clip one. Bonus
Adam Curry: clip one. Ladies and
gentlemen, this came in late, so
hold on a second. You mean
debate bonus, I think, right.
Wait, how come it doesn't say
bonus here?
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's because
under debate. Oh, but it came in
as a, as a,
Adam Curry: right? But it
doesn't say bonus. What's the
name of it? No,
John C Dvorak: it doesn't, I'm
just telling you where it came.
Oh, okay,
Adam Curry: I can't play it if I
don't know what it
John C Dvorak: is, the name of
it, look it up. Because I, I
thought that if you if you saw
it, when you saw it, when it
came in, you know what? Okay,
no,
Adam Curry: because it would say
bonus clip and it doesn't say,
Okay. Well, let
John C Dvorak: me tell you what
the problem is with this. I can
get it for you, but when I send
the bonus clips in, they're not
on my main list. Oh, okay, well,
so all I know is I sent you the
bonus clips. In order of the one
is that I wanted to play
Adam Curry: falling down. Make a
note, we're falling down here.
We're falling down.
John C Dvorak: So I have to go
back and see what the clip is
called that I sent you even
though you had received it.
Bonus clip is called debate,
blatant lie. Clip on from
Tiktok. Okay,
Unknown: as
of today, there is not one
member of the United States
military who is in active duty
in a combat zone, in any war
zone around the world. The first
time this century, that's
John C Dvorak: a blatant lie.
The US is 2400 troops deployed
to Iraq right now to assist and
advise Iraqi forces engaging in
combat against ISIS. US forces
regularly participate in raids
in ISIS, and they have since
2014 just 11 days ago, seven US
personnels were injured in a
raid. We just had three soldiers
die back in January, killed by
Iran backed militias while
deployed in Jordan, which
borders Israel, until July, the
Dwight D Eisenhower aircraft
strike group was deployed to the
Red Sea, regularly fighting
Houthi rebels and was attacked
on numerous occasions. Just last
month, we deployed even more
ballistic missile capable
cruisers and destroyers to the
Middle East and Europe. We also
happened to have 10,000 troops
deployed to Poland on Ukraine's
border, and CNN was apparently
only able to count one lie that
Kamala told during the debate. I
counted 29 at least. So follow
me here, because I'm going to be
talking to be talking about all
of them now. The reason, the
reason I'm playing this clip
after the other ones to
emphasize this lying situation,
is that they went to the ABC
went to the trouble of calling
the city manager of Springfield
out of the blue just on the
hopes that Trump would bring up
the dogs, yes, but they don't
care about any of this other
stuff. Do you think this would
be a little more important when
she says, makes this lie that we
have no troops in a combat zone?
So
Adam Curry: what is interesting
is that you're surprised.
John C Dvorak: You know, I'm not
surprised well,
Adam Curry: but this is what the
culture war economy does. Oh,
that was biased. Yes, it was
biased. It was a setup. It was a
complete setup. And now let's
unprepared for it.
John C Dvorak: To make this
setup even more obvious to me,
is something that nobody picked
up on. Fox all the fox shows.
Didn't see it. Nobody saw it.
You're going to see it here. I'm
going to bring it out. You might
catch it knowing that there's a
gotcha in here. Play the debate
IVF killer on
Unknown: it. They know that, and
everybody else knows it. I have
been a leader on fertilization,
IVF, and the other thing they
you should ask, Will she allow
abortion in the eighth month,
ninth month, seventh month, come
on, okay, would you do that? Why
don't you ask that question to
answer the question, the
question you could do abortions
in the seventh month, the eighth
month, the ninth month, and
probably after birth.
Adam Curry: Yes. I'm glad you
brought that up. What did you
want to say about it?
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
thought her mic was supposed to
be off, yeah, she said right in
the middle of his commentary,
oh, come on, yeah, yeah. And
then her mic was open the whole
time throughout the debate.
Rights. They're supposed to be
cut mics. And you knew that
Trump's was cut because he
tried, when he tried to come in
on something, it was a dead mic,
and they brought it up. You
could see him do it. Her mic was
open the whole time. She could
keep us all she wanted. Nobody
noticed this.
Adam Curry: You know what I you
know what else I noticed, which
was very minor, but, and I it
was just minor. Trump's box was
a little bit smaller than her
box in the two shots. Width,
yes, width was a little hers was
John C Dvorak: lower.
Adam Curry: But no, no, I'm not
talking the box that she's
standing I'm talking the TV
screen, the two shot.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting. I didn't notice.
Yes, his box
Adam Curry: was now, I
understand for framing purposes,
because she needed to have a
little more room because she
kept looking to the right. But
that could be just a shot, and
it would have actually given
Trump a more just from a
television production
standpoint, it would have given
a more dominant appearance by
having to zoom out make her head
smaller in order to fit her her
sideway glances, so they made
his box a little bit smaller.
Was just it's a minor thing, but
I think they matter. Now on the
killing babies, I had to go into
the archives just to make sure
people know, because he said
West Virginia, which, now that
should have been fact checked,
because that was wrong. It was
John C Dvorak: another, yes,
well, they, they fact checked
him, I think, up to five times.
They never stopped her from
saying anything. She used fine
people hoax. She used the blood
bath. They didn't stop her. This
was worse.
Adam Curry: We'll get your
description. We'll get to that.
But they didn't fact check him,
because it was the former
governor of Virginia, which he
later said correctly, but he
started with West Virginia, and
we have that clip from 2019.
Unknown: Virginia's late term
abortion bill is gaining
international attention. It
would allow terminations at any
point during pregnancy,
including up until the point of
childbirth. The controversy
first started from this video
delegate Tran defending her bill
that would loosen abortion
requirements in the Commonwealth
through the third
trimester. Third trimester goes
all the
way up to 40 weeks, but to the
end of the third trimester,
I don't think we have a limit in
the bill.
Right now, late term abortions
are allowed under Virginia law
if three physicians certify the
pregnancy substantially and
irremediably threatens the
woman's life and health. Trans
bill would only require one
physician to certify the
abortion and removes the
substantially and irremediably
requirement, facing harsh
backlash, Governor Northam went
on a radio show stating that
trans comments were blown out of
proportion. He added that
politicians shouldn't interfere
with a woman's right to choose.
The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept
comfortable. The infant would be
resuscitated if that's what the
mother and the family desired,
and then a discussion would
ensue between the physicians and
the mother.
Governor Northam faced a
backlash of his own, accused of
supporting infanticide by
conservative leaders. Words
have meaning. You saw the tape.
I
think he was very clear in what
he said, and I
think that was very disturbing
Adam Curry: so and you know,
this is rarely brought up by the
the big the big talking heads in
podcast land, because they don't
have the archive, or the
producers that we do who dig
this up, and the systems that we
have. And so it's true, and
these people are demonic in that
way, and it's important, because
it just gets glossed over. She
says, That's not true. That's
not true. That's not true. Just
this week, this chick, I'm
saying chick, called a DC
District of Columbia clinic, and
she recorded it right calling
Unknown: the Care Clinic in
Bethesda, Maryland. Bethesda, I
am looking to have an abortion.
I'm 34 right now. I am in a
pretty desperate situation.
Adam Curry: That's eight months
just so if you can't calculate
eight months pregnant
boyfriends,
Unknown: is kind of out of the
picture. Now, so I don't really
have any support.
An abortion at any stage is
actually much safer than
delivering a term pregnancy.
It's a four to five day
procedure. We do some basic lab
work on you and start to dilate
your cervix. After that, we do
what we call the fetal
injection. A needle is inserted
through the abdomen and into the
fetal heart, where lidocaine is
injected, and that will
completely numb the fetus so
there's no pain. And then after
that, we inject a medication
called digoxin and another
medication called KCL into the
fetal heart, which will flow and
then stop the fetal heartbeat.
Then on that fourth day,
depending on how your cervix has
dilated, we'll break your water,
and then we'll give you a
medication called misoprostol.
Misoprostol will sort of induce
contraction and increase the
dilation of your cervix. You're
going to have contractions in
cramping, and then we'll assist
you in. Sort of pushing in the
induction and then remove all of
the products of conception.
Adam Curry: The product of
conception, you're definitely
going
Unknown: to comfort a
lot of pressure, but we do give
you fentanyl and verse fed
during the procedure. We
specialize in later trimester
care. Our doctor is very well
versed in what he's doing, and
he's very good.
So I'm not like a rare
situation. Y'all help women this
late in pregnancy all the time,
Adam Curry: all the time. So it
is true.
John C Dvorak: It is true. Of
course, it's true, but people
Adam Curry: need to hear that.
That's a sickening but this is
how your mom played
John C Dvorak: that Virginia
clip when it came out, and maybe
played it a second time. Glad
you found it, by the way. Um
yeah. I know Trump didn't lie at
all on any of this stuff, but
she and she never says that's
not true. She says, No, you're
lying. Yeah, you have to, you
know, that's different, because
they have to, they have to
promote this lie. Oh, you're a
liar. I mean, at one point,
there was two things I thought
were funny about the debate.
One, at one point, he actually
shushed her for interrupting
him.
Unknown: Does it sound familiar
John C Dvorak: with the open
mic? Yes. So that, which I
thought was funny, because that
she was known for doing that to
pence. And the other one was he,
she wouldn't answer the question
directly of whether she ever met
Putin. She's never met Putin.
And that came up later. This
thing was your idea that this is
just a kangaroo, not a
courtroom, but a kangaroo court.
There you go. Is, is right on
the money. Because the end these
two people, there's this dour
woman, I don't see her that much
on ABC that whoever she is. Was
Adam Curry: it just me, or did
she overfill her upper lip?
John C Dvorak: There was
something wrong with her lips?
Yes, and
Adam Curry: her upper lip, it
John C Dvorak: wasn't you,
Adam Curry: okay, okay. And by
the way, please stop sending me
the she had speaker earrings.
John C Dvorak: Actually, Mimi
looked into those speaker
earrings and found that they
were actually $30,000 Tiffany
earrings, which really irked
her.
Adam Curry: Yes, that is exactly
what I was going to say. I
happen to be a fan of Tiffany's.
John C Dvorak: That didn't
surprise anybody, but
Adam Curry: my sisters. My
sister's name is Tiffany, my mom
was a big fan of so I've always
followed Tiffany jewelry. And
Tina and I, when we got married,
we got, you know, these silver
Tiffany wedding bands and so.
And I like the shop. It's a nice
shop. I can't afford much in the
shop, but it's a nice shop. And,
and, and I looked it up, and
they no longer, no longer sold
online, and I'm not sure I got a
price quote of 22,000
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Mimi found
him at 30,000 and she said this
was the most let them eat cake
total moment. She said she
should be wearing some simple
studs or something. She
shouldn't be wearing $30,000
earrings, exactly.
Adam Curry: Now, there was one
thing which this is a clip from
Jen pasaki and Steele, who was
supposed to be a Republican. In
fact, he ran the Republican
Party. Now he's a Democrat, and
he's the head of the RNC. Yeah,
the head of the RNC, and he's on
the panel. And so he's first,
he's going to throw out some
Jive talk, and then he's going
to say something which I believe
to be true.
Unknown: Okay. Michael Steele,
you were quite animated when I
saw you in the hallway earlier
about that. You're going to tell
me you think of the debate that
you told me in the hallway, what
was your take on the debate?
Michael, still go ahead. Was the
key moment she spanked that ass
she
came what she's she came and she
walked on that stage. Look, for
me, this is one of those things
that you didn't realize happened
until about 20 to 30 minutes
into the debate, and it's what
everyone's talked about. And for
me, it was the pivotal, most
important moment of the debate
was when they were introduced
and Donald Trump came out. And
if you watch go back, I tell
everybody to go back and watch
this. He comes out. He goes
direct to the podium. He is not
usually go to the middle of the
floor to greet your opponent. He
went to the pot. He had no
intention of shaking her hand.
She walked across the stage
right into his space, stuck her
hand out and said, Kamala
Harris, it was a power move, and
he wasn't expecting it.
John C Dvorak: I think let me
give you my take on this. This
is a corrupt situation.
Adam Curry: And they said, Don't
shake hands. And they let her do
it anyway. No,
John C Dvorak: no, I got the
prop bets from an operation
called sports.
Adam Curry: Here we go. And
John C Dvorak: there was a prop
bet on, will they shake hands?
And if I was Camella, because
you already saw. He wasn't going
to shake hands. So the bet was
they weren't going to shake
hands. I think was two to ones.
I don't know the numbers. I'd
have to go look him up. But all
you do, your cameras say hey,
hey boys, I'm going to make a
point. I going over there and
shaking Trump's hand. Your bet.
The bet is, as a surefire
winner, you can win as much
money as
Adam Curry: you bet. We've got a
little change on the side as you
walk over
John C Dvorak: there. She made a
huge point of walking over
there. They all, she's so power,
bad bullshit. This was a betting
moment, and she knew this was
the one opportunity she had to
make a surefire win at online
betting. This was a this was as
corrupt. This is the corruption
that we're looking at. This is
corruption. I love it,
Adam Curry: the prop bet. All
right, now I have a question,
since you didn't get recordings,
even though, of course, you set
your your YouTube TV, CNN is
taking a very different track
with all of this. Listen to Jake
Tapper,
Unknown: Vice President Harris,
began the debate by punting the
first question on the economy.
Do you
believe Americans are better off
than they were four years ago?
So
I was raised as a middle class
kid, and I am actually the only
person on this stage who has a
plan that is about lifting up
the middle class and working
people of America.
It went on from there, despite
the economy being the number one
issue facing the country, the
sitting Vice President generally
reverted to talking points about
a few of her policy proposals.
Even Harris allies today are
saying that she needs to talk
more about what she will do for
Americans if elected. Senator
Bernie Sanders will be here in a
second to talk about more about
the need for her to fill in some
of those blanks on the border,
another vulnerable issue for
Harris, she also dodged. Would
you have done anything
differently from President Biden
on this?
So I'm the only person on this
stage who has prosecuted
transnational criminal
organizations for the
trafficking of guns, drugs and
human beings.
Okay, that wasn't the question.
When asked how she would break
through the Israel Hamas war
stalemate, Harris said this,
we need a cease fire deal, and
we need the hostages out, and so
we will continue to work around
the clock on that. Okay, but
again, how
Adam Curry: so Tapper? We know
is a CIA asset. He gladly
attends the birthday parties of
the agency
John C Dvorak: big I want to
stop you from the generalization
you earlier made that at CNN. I
think it's just Tapper. Well,
Adam Curry: that's what I
thought. But then enter Aaron
Burnett, formerly of CNBC,
John C Dvorak: now also counts
on Foreign Relations. Now on the
Adam Curry: ozempic train. She
looks good, but she's on the O
train. There's no doubt about
it. It's too bad and she did
this this week tonight,
Unknown: Kamala Harris releasing
details of her policy positions
for the first time on her
campaign website. A K file
investigation has uncovered,
meantime, a 2019 questionnaire.
And in this questionnaire,
Harris laid out some much more
liberal stances. K files, Andrew
Kaczynski joins me now, yeah.
And this was a questionnaire
that she filled out for the ACL,
ACLU, and this questionnaire is
really an interesting snapshot
in time of that 2019 Democratic
primary Kamala Harris was trying
to get to the left of Bernie
Sanders. She was trying to get
to the left of Elizabeth Warren.
And you really see that in a lot
of these answers. And I want to
walk our viewers through a
little bit of what she said.
Let's just take immigration and
look at what she said here. She
said on immigration, she made
this open ended pledge to end
immigrant detention. She said
she supported taxpayer funded
gender transition surgeries for
detained migrants. She also said
she
funded gender transition
surgeries for detained
actually said she supported she
wrote, both wrote and answered
in the affirmative when she was
asked this, and she said she
also supported it for federal
prisoners. Now, she also pledged
to slash immigration detention
by 50% close all family and
private facilities, and decrease
funding for ice. And then the
end ending, end ice detainers
with local law enforcement.
Adam Curry: So it's not just
Tapper. There's something in
CNN, and you know, there's, I
don't know, seems like they're
trying to lean more towards
Trump. Maybe they want to even
out the score for the ad.
Advertising rates make it more
of a horse race in their mind.
I'm not sure that
John C Dvorak: could be it
advertising, but Tapper is
definitely pushing back on
everything. So is baffling to
me. But okay, well,
Adam Curry: remember he is and
by he's far
John C Dvorak: there is a clip
which and so is Burnett. There
is a clip going around of her
sitting down, talking about how
the gender affirming care is so
important for prisoners, and
she's made a point of pushing it
so California is it's California
law is the best. So these clips
are out there, and they're just
starting. To show up. So my
favorite one, which I is a
useless clip for the show, but
I'll explain it is I retweeted
it for people who are concerned
about my tweeting too much. The
this was from 1996 it was Willie
Brown. It was a Willie Brown
party, and Kamala was there with
him, and the reporter who's
covering the the event goes up
to Camelot and says, Are you his
daughter?
Adam Curry: Yes, I saw that.
It's not real. It's not good for
audio for the show. And she
says, that's a mess. No, I'm
not. But
John C Dvorak: and then she was
there at the end. She was
standing right next to him at
the podium. Yeah, so she's a,
yeah, yes,
Adam Curry: one of those. That's
one of those where you get
earrings. Man, come on, that's
where you get those $2,000
John C Dvorak: earrings.
Actually, that was suggested by
Mimi. That is Willie Brown
bought those earrings for her.
Now, regarding
Adam Curry: the border, Trump
had, I thought a pretty good
line, although he mistakenly
called it a bill when he should
have said executive order or
order or anything but bill
regarding the shutting down of
the border. Right now,
Unknown: I ask you this. You
talk about the capital. Why are
we allowing these millions of
people to come through on the
southern border? How come she's
not doing anything? And I'll
tell you what I would do, and I
would be very proud to do it. I
would say we would both leave
this debate right now. I'd like
to see her go down to
Washington, DC during this
debate, because we're wasting a
lot of time. Go down to because
she's been so bad, it's so
ridiculous. Go down to
Washington, DC and let her sign
a bill to close up the border,
because they have the right to
do it. They don't need bills.
They have the right to do the
President of the United States,
you'll get them out of bed.
You'll wake them up at four
o'clock in the afternoon. You
say, Come on, come on down to
the office. Let's sign a bill.
If he if he signs a bill that
the border is closed, all he has
to do is say it to the border
patrol, who are phenomenal if
they do that the border is
closed. Now,
John C Dvorak: as a fact
checker,
Adam Curry: yes. Fact Check
false.
John C Dvorak: I would have
checked false, because you look
for everything. Trump says
that's even a little bit
erroneous. That would be two
lies on the on the count,
because you said those are two
lies twice. He said, sign a
bill. Bill, yes, and you're
right. It's an executive order,
yes. Now, so that's two lies.
Those are lies,
Adam Curry: those lies. So he
referenced TDA, which is the
Venezuelan gang in Aurora in
Colorado
John C Dvorak: and Chicago.
Well,
Adam Curry: let's just stick
with Aurora for a minute,
because we've been following
this story. We haven't quite
known exactly what's going on.
It is several apartment
buildings have been taken over
by these Venezuelan gangs. And I
know from one of our guys who
follows the border, he says, you
know, the the TVA, they have an
entire line all the way from
Venezuela all the way up to the
United States, and housing is
really one of their main things.
John C Dvorak: They take the
member. The membership is 5000
Yeah, they take
Adam Curry: over housing. And
then, you know, new gang members
come up. They stay in those
houses, they move on to the next
one, as they move all the way up
into American cities. So
Denver's local television
station, of course, had to look
into is this really true? Is it
really true about what's
happening in Aurora, and what
the mayor says is quite telling.
Former
Unknown: President Donald Trump
said that Aurora was taken over
by migrants and violently taking
over buildings. Is that
accurate? No,
it's really not. You know,
there's no question that there's
been some issues in several
apartment buildings, but it's
been so dramatically
exaggerated, so
Adam Curry: several apartment
buildings, but it's been
exaggerated that it's the entire
Unknown: city that is somehow
overrun by gang or criminal
activity that couldn't be
further from the truth. You
Adam Curry: see what's happening
here, right? It's like, well,
yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is ants
fucking Yes. He
Unknown: also mentioned that a
lot of the migrants coming into
the United States are criminals,
and that crime is at an all time
high. Do you believe that crime
is at an all time high in Aurora
right now?
You know, I really don't the you
know. Again, I think that there
are some issues with several
apartment buildings, and even
those issues have been
exaggerated. Mayor
Kaufman says, at all surprised
to hear Aurora come up.
I kind of expected it to come up
during the debate, and
unfortunately it
did. Many who live in the city
say they weren't shocked either.
I'm not really surprised about
it. Half of it's media, and half
of it's obviously people are
there's bad people everywhere in
a joint stop Wednesday, Mayor
Mike Kaufman, Councilwoman
Danielle jarinsky, and the city
manager said in part, trendara
West presence in Aurora is
limited to specific properties,
all of which the city has been
addressing for months.
There is an exaggeration of the
issue that the royal Police
Department is certainly
addressing. What issue right now
is. Real, and there are arrests
being made, and there are people
that are being held in custody.
Adam Curry: So then the same
Denver local television station
has this report Aurora
Unknown: police identifying more
members of the trend day Aragua
gang who have been arrested the
10 men you see here face charges
stemming from alleged assaults,
domestic disputes and shootings
in Aurora, including at the
Whispering Pines, condominiums,
Fitzsimmons place, apartments on
Nome street that have been in
the national spotlight.
Adam Curry: Activists say
racist, homophobic, anti semitic
comments at an aurora city
council meeting highlight a
divide that has grown since the
trend Aragua game came to the
spotlight. Here's your typical
Democrat stronghold city. This
is putting this all on the
council.
John C Dvorak: I like. What's
homophobia got to do with it? I
Adam Curry: don't know, but you
got to stop it
Unknown: and listen. A caller at
Monday's Aurora city council
meeting complained of immigrants
and used hateful language. His
comments were not cut short ever
seven
Adam Curry: just Crawford talked
to members of the community now
demanding that the council cut
off hateful commentary and
establish some other safeguards.
Yes, safeguards for those poor
immigrants, the 10 who were
arrested. This is this is crazy
so, and that's great. Let me
just get back to Aurora, because
I have two quick clips from one
of their council meetings, but
not Aurora, I'm sorry,
Springfield, Ohio. So this is
the residence, and let me
Unknown: be clear, this is not
about race. This is about people
being given the privilege of
coming here from another country
and having no respect for our
people, our land or our life's
work, people living their life
here the way they did in Haiti,
angry, stealing, polluting,
living in filth and acting like
animals. These are not civilized
people, opening containers in
our grocery stores, helping
themselves to what's inside and
throwing the rest onto the
shelves and floors, pulling off
of the highway to publicly clean
and gut the road kill lying
there in front of anyone that
passes by, stealing animals from
farmers and leaving their
severed heads at the site of an
old school where children play
relieving themselves in public,
making some barbaric stew out of
the birds that live in our park.
This is insanity, and it has to
stop.
So
Adam Curry: nothing to see here.
You're really exaggerating,
lady, but this guy is my
favorite. This guy is my
favorite,
John C Dvorak: by the way, dad,
because it's kind of out of the
blue and it's good clip. I'm
going to give you a borderline
Clip of the Day for that. Oh,
well,
Adam Curry: you should have
waited. No, you should wait. You
should have waited because this
is my favorite. They're
Unknown: in the park driving up
ducks by their neck and cutting
their head off and walking off
with them and eating them like
and it's going to get bigger,
and it's only going to get
worse. And y'all sitting up
there in these chairs, y'all
all, y'all need to get out here
and do something. Y'all making
hundreds of $1,000 y'all need to
put on a t shirt and some crocs.
And then y'all need to come out
here in these streets, and y'all
need to go out here and, uh, I'm
out here before the police is
Adam Curry: you got to put on a
t shirt and some Crocs and get
out here people. Y'all
Unknown: need to do something.
Bro, y'all really got to stand
on Minutes. Y'all getting paid
all this money just to wear a
suit and sit in a chair. I don't
think, I think it's, I think
it's crazy, bro, that's where
they come from, and that's what
they do. That's they country. I
don't know what they got going
on over there, but they can't do
that over here. And if y'all
just getting paid from it, and
then y'all ain't doing nothing
about I think that's super
weird, bro, y'all gotta stand on
business. Y'all gotta really,
like, step up. Like, it's lame,
bro,
yes, yeah. You
John C Dvorak: know what's
extremely overlooked in all this
is, I, I'd like to know the
genesis of why Haitians in
particular are all in
Springfield. Does our homeland
group take because we ship a lot
of these people. We fly them in
directly in a lot of instances.
But why? Because are they all
going to one spot? Because I
don't hear about the Haitians
anyplace else
Adam Curry: but Springfield,
first of all is because dole is
there. There's big industry
there. There's big industry
there's big factories. Dole,
yes, dole, there's big factories
there. You heard the
manufacturing so there's, yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, I understand
that, but there's big factories
here and there. But it would be,
hey,
Adam Curry: it because
everyone's drugged out. They
don't care. These companies are
in cahoots. And bring me some
cheap workers. You hurt the guy.
Hey, I want more of these. I
wish I could get 10 more. I want
30 more. Bring me more. You
don't think they're in
conversations. Of course, they
John C Dvorak: are. No, I'm It
was obvious. There's something
like that's going on, Alabama,
Adam Curry: Alabama, salacoo,
Sala Quagga city filled with
Haitians. I think it's a sila
Quagga. It's S, Y, L, H, it's in
the north. It's known as marble
city because a lot of marble.
There's stone quarries there.
Same thing, same. Thing Council
Patience, patience and the and
the and the council president
Tiffany Nix stopped the council
meeting saying, Oh no, this is
getting too heated. Here. You're
being aggressive. People are.
It's the same story. And what's
up there quarries. So it's all
coordinated exactly what the
former New York banker told us,
exactly what they want,
suppressed wages. It's good for
industry. It used to be the
Republicans with these games.
Now it's the Democrats. It's,
it's, it's so obvious. So yeah,
you'll see more. You'll see more
cities. I mean, we've got boots
on the ground everywhere. We'll
hear about it. Do you have any
more? Because I just want to
close out this segment with a
couple more clips, unless you
have something you want to get
in there. Well,
John C Dvorak: I did have some,
just some summary clips I
thought were good. Well, before
debates, before you get the
Adam Curry: summary. This is
this just asked, yeah, but I
Yes, I asked, and he said,
summary, I'm like, I'm striking.
Summary, I'm pushing it, pushing
it back. We're moving out to the
A one block. This is just, just
the clip that we have to play,
because this shows that they're
all in. They don't care. The
Democrats just gotta say it. The
Democrat Party are all it? I
heard Dave Weiner spouting this
nonsense on this podcast, the
people who are all in and are
hypnotized by these demonic,
spiritual forces of the Democrat
party believe these lies. Nancy
Unknown: Pelosi was responsible.
She didn't do a job. The
question
was about you as president, not
about former Speaker Pelosi, but
I do want vice president Harris
to respond.
Here. I was at the Capitol on
January 6. I was the vice
president elect. I was also
enacting senator. I was there,
and on that day, the President
of the United States incited a
violent mob to attack our
nation's capital, to desecrate
our nation's capital. On that
day, 140 law enforcement
officers were injured and some
died. And understand the former
president has been indicted and
impeached for exactly that
reason. But this is not an
isolated situation. Let's
remember Charlottesville, where
there was a mob of people
carrying tiki torches, spewing
anti semitic hate, and what did
the President then, at the time
say there were fine people on
each side. Let's remember that.
When it came to the proud boys a
militia, the President said, the
former president said, stand
back and stand by. So for
everyone watching, who remembers
what January 6 was, I say we
don't have to go back. Let's not
go back. We're not going back.
It's time to turn the page, and
if that was a bridge too far for
you, well, there is a place in
our campaign for you to stand
for country, to stand for our
democracy, to stand for rule of
law and to end the chaos. Good
line. End the approach that is
about attacking the foundations
of our democracy because you
don't like the outcome. And be
clear on that point, Donald
Trump, the candidate, has said,
in this election, there will be
a bloodbath if this and the
outcome of this election is not
to his liking, let's turn the
page on this. Let's not go back.
Let's chart a course for the
future and not go backwards to
the past. These
Adam Curry: people do not care
about the truth at all.
John C Dvorak: Well, there were
four instances in there that the
hosts, moderators, could have
stopped her for just falsehoods,
or
Adam Curry: done a summary
afterwards, or
John C Dvorak: anything. They
did nothing. No,
Adam Curry: they didn't. So it
was, it was really, well, let's
John C Dvorak: tell what they
were. The thing is, the stand
down thing was bullcrap that
hoaxes about fine people has
been even nope, here's that one
down, here's
Adam Curry: the here's the
original. I have the original.
And
Unknown: you had some very bad
people in that group, but you
also had people that were very
fine people on both sides. You
had people in that group. Excuse
me, excuse me. I saw the same
pictures as you did. You had
people in that group that were
there to protest the taking down
of to them a very, very
important statue and the
renaming of a park from Robert E
Lee to another name. And you had
people, and I'm not talking
about the neo Nazi. And the
white nationalists, because they
should be condemned totally. But
you had many people in that
group other than Neo Nazis and
white nationalists. Okay, there
you go. That's the full quote.
Adam Curry: And then the
bloodbath. We probably still
have that somewhere. That was
about the Chinese cars, wasn't
John C Dvorak: it about the
Chinese electric cars being made
in Mexico and being allowed to
come into the country through a
trickery, yes, without tariffs.
Here's of the here's the quote,
China
Unknown: now is building a
couple of massive plants where
they're going to build the cars
in Mexico, and think they think
that they're going to sell those
cars into the United States with
no tax at the border. Let me
tell you something to China, if
you're listening, President Xi
and you and I are friends, but
he understands the way I deal
those big monster car
manufacturing plants that you're
building in Mexico right now.
And you think you're going to
get that, you're going to not
hire Americans, and you're going
to sell the cars to us now,
we're going to put a 100% tariff
on every single car that comes
across the line, and you're not
going to be able to sell those
guys if I get elected. Now, if I
don't get elected, it's going to
be a bloodbath for the whole
that's going to be the least of
it. It's going to be a bloodbath
for the country that will be the
least of it. But they're not
going to sell those cars.
They're building massive
factories. A friend of mine,
there you go, there you go. It's
going to be a bloodbath for the
country.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So that's
futile.
John C Dvorak: It is fun,
Adam Curry: but that's what a
good prosecutor does. You know,
there's certainly in the
courtroom, there's nothing
against the prosecutor lying.
She's used to it. That's what
you do. That's what you do.
John C Dvorak: Well, this
reminds me of the prosecutor.
The other one that's out there
is Adam Schiff, who, during one
of the impeachment trials, made
up stories on the fly about what
he was managing. Remember that
he goes on and on about what
Trump and Zielinski were talking
about, and he was just lying,
and it was just the same thing,
exactly. Gosh,
Unknown: what was it? Was that
one?
John C Dvorak: I'd be stunned.
Adam Curry: It was he was doing
a little play. He was Schiff
story. Probably
Unknown: not going to find it.
Adam Curry: I think it might be
just worth it, just because I
think that was the strongest. I
think Trump's closer was strong,
and I haven't really seen it
clipped anywhere. I don't know
if people are considering
clipping it or not, I think they
should.
John C Dvorak: What the end of
the thing says, Well, if you're
such a hot shot, why have you
been doing this all along? No,
I'm
Adam Curry: talking about his,
his, his closing his closing
argument. So she
Unknown: just started by saying
she's going to do this, she's
going to do that. She's going to
do all these wonderful things.
Why hasn't she done it?
John C Dvorak: Just said,
Unknown: I misunderstood you.
Hasn't
she done it? She's been there
for three and a half years.
They've had three and a half
years to fix the border. They've
had three and a half years to
create jobs. And all the things
we talked about. Why hasn't she
done it? She should leave right
now. Go down to that beautiful
white house, go to the Capitol,
get everyone together and do the
things you want to do, but you
haven't done it and you won't do
it because you believe in things
that the American people don't
believe in. You believe in
things like, we're not going to
frack we're not going to take
fossil fuel. We're not going to
do things that are going to make
this country strong, whether you
like it or not, Germany tried
that, and within one year, they
were back to building normal
energy plants. We're not ready
for it. We can't sacrifice our
country for the sake of bad
vision. But I just ask one
simple question, why didn't she
do it? We're a failing nation.
We're a nation that's in serious
decline. We're being laughed at
all over the world. All over the
world, they're left. I know the
leaders very well. They're
coming to see me. They call me.
We're laughed at all over the
world. They don't understand
what happened to us as a nation.
We're not a leader. We don't
have any idea what's going on.
We have wars going on in the
Middle East. We have wars going
on with Russia and Ukraine.
We're going to end up in a third
world war, and it will be a war
like no other because of nuclear
weapons, the power of weaponry.
I rebuilt our entire military.
She gave a lot of it away to the
Taliban. She gave it to
Afghanistan. What these people
have done to our country, and
maybe toughest of all, is
allowing millions of people to
come into our country. Many of
them are criminals, and they are
destroying our country. The
worst president, the worst.
First vice president in the
history of our country. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I thought that was
good. That was, that was his
message. That was the whole
debate. That's right there. He
the
John C Dvorak: criticism of that
message was he should have used
that thematically throughout the
debate. Well, he did, because
people have tuned on there. I
don't know how many people
listen to the end, there was 67
point 1 million listeners, total
Adam Curry: viewers, or
listeners, viewers, probably
viewers,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. And I
don't know how many people were
at the end. They were because it
was getting kind of boring.
Adam Curry: I'm sure people
tuned out like, Oh no, can't
watch. Can't watch.
John C Dvorak: But as you listen
to these clips, stand alone,
Trump sounds great. Making the
Unknown: points, making the
points absolutely and
John C Dvorak: after they
they're regurgitated and run on
tick tock and elsewhere with
these guys over to dubbing
everything. He wins the debate.
In hindsight. Now I don't know
if he's going to do more
debates. I'll give you. There
was an interesting stat that ran
on his debating Hillary,
Adam Curry: oh, he's already
been asking for one. I think.
No, he's,
John C Dvorak: he's, yeah. He
want, if they do it on Fox,
he'll do it, yeah, but do, but
he, if he does it, he said, NBC,
for some unknown reason, he's
not going to do a debate there.
But someone she had this poll
up, or it wasn't a poll. It was
a stat that when Hillary,
Hillary beat him all three
debates, supposedly. And in
debate number one, her point
total went up in terms of, in
terms of the election one point
after debate number two, she was
up by five, and after debate
number three, she was up by
seven,
Adam Curry: right? And then she
was aware of this, then she
lost. It's amazing, and then she
John C Dvorak: lost, yes, which
is amazing, you're right, but if
I was, I don't think, I think
those numbers are frightening.
It because he'll be beaten by
her again, or it appears to be
He healed. I don't think he's
going to do anymore, unless it's
on Fox.
Adam Curry: Well, I don't think
these debates make that much
difference. I really just don't,
by the way, regarding our
previous episode, hey, I live in
Latvia, but Russian is my native
tongue. Regarding John's comment
that Russians wouldn't hear
comma they most definitely have
heard, especially her laugh.
Russia is a country where people
are very outward focused. They
are and we're always interested
in what happens in the west and
how the West sees them. On
federal channels. They are
showing American election news
all the time. When someone goes
to America to visit or live, the
most common question from
Russians to them would be, so
what do Americans think about
Russia? And when they answer,
they mostly don't. They, they
don't believe it. Oh, all right,
that's a Vitali. Malaysia checks
believe it. Malaysia checks in.
In Malaysia, you think about
Kamala, we think about the
laugh. So I think
John C Dvorak: I got in Yes, I
was wrong. Okay, it appears that
the Kamala laugh is more
universally accepted and known
than I thought. Because I didn't
see any reason why it would be,
but I guess it is. So I guess
she's it's cold, nuts. Her hyena
laugh is worldwide, well known.
It's tick tock.
Adam Curry: It's the, it's the
it's the coconut Gambit. So I'm
done with the debate. If you
are, we can move on. Oh, by the
way, did you see Biden put on
the Trump hat?
John C Dvorak: Yes, this was so
embarrassing. No, although, you
know, I have to wonder whether
he he knew what he was doing.
No. I mean, is it possible that
Biden put on the Trump hat
because he could feel the oil?
They're going to give him the
slack and flack for it, but he
knew he what he was doing,
because he doesn't like Camelot.
I think a bunch of stuff's going
to start coming out about camel.
More of these old clips are
going to get dredged up. There's
a lot of them. There's a lot of
dredged a few up on this show
already. There's a lot of time
for it, and we got 50 days for
more of it to come out. Uh,
Adam Curry: now the the Trump
meme squad is out. No doubt
they're out. The
John C Dvorak: memes are out,
yes, and the other size memes
are not good.
Adam Curry: They have weak
memes. They're weak memers. So
Now switching gears, but staying
on immigration. We just heard
that Germany, of course, is the
seam that the solar and wind
energy, the energy vendor and
blowing up their nuclear plants
or closing them down. At best, I
think they actually imploded.
Two of them, not a good idea.
John C Dvorak: They completely
decommissioned a couple, yeah,
not a good idea. So
Adam Curry: they're trying to
get back. Why they did it.
John C Dvorak: How did they get
talked into that stupidity?
Adam Curry: Be Well, the Germans
since World War Two, they're,
you know, they have guilt, and
they need to do what they're
told, and they're very sorry
about everything, and they're
traumatized people. But now,
with the alternative for
Deutschlands rising saying, hey,
the people are pissed now. Now
the German government's trying
to change some things, controls
Unknown: for those entering
Germany, such as this one near
Poland, now looks set to become
widespread across the country's
3700 kilometer long land border,
after ramping up security
measures on several of its
frontiers last year, amid a
surge in first time asylum
requests, Germany has announced
temporary internal checks at all
of the country's land borders.
These are the same measures that
we are now taking with the Czech
Republic, Poland, Austria and
Switzerland. We will then do
this with France, Belgium,
Luxembourg, the Netherlands and
Denmark. I have ordered this
today, and have already informed
the EU, starting
next Monday, the controls will
initially last for a period of
six months. The decision comes
after a deadly mass stabbing
last month in the western city
of zollingen, claimed by the
Islamic State group, an attack
which inflamed fierce debate
over asylum rules when it
transpired that the main suspect
was a Syrian refugee facing
deportation, the government has
sought a response to the
outrage. In the interior
Minister's view, stepping up
border security will help
prevent such incidents in the
future,
this will serve to further limit
irregular migration and protect
against the acute dangers posed
by Islamist terror and serious
crime. We are doing everything
we can to better protect the
people in our country against
this.
Adam Curry: So I love the term
irregular migration, instead of
illegal irregular migration. As
a person who grew up in the
Netherlands, having a border and
having a checkpoint with Germany
is is hard to even fathom. I
mean, you just drive straight
through and then, and now we had
Brexit. And, well, actually,
forget Brexit. We had the EU Oh,
you won't need passports and
anything like that. Now is like
checks on the roadways. Things
have got to be pretty bad. And
in general, this is something
I've been tracking with
Amsterdam, but it's happening
everywhere. We have the
irregular migration, destroying
all the beautiful cities in the
European Union totally
destroying them, getting the
cheap labor in to run the
tourism industry as the European
Union countries are now being
turned into Disneyland, Rome,
Unknown: Santorini, Barcelona,
Amsterdam, across Europe.
Efforts of all different sorts
continue to roll in in a quest
to curb mass tourism, a case of
biting the hand that feeds you,
or a necessary step to preserve
a local life. Such moves are
steeped in controversy, with
frequent protests among locals,
and as was the case this summer
in Mallorca, municipalities are
trying to find solutions. One of
the latest a proposal to charge
two euros at the Trevi Fountain
in Rome for the city's top
tourism official. The access fee
would help manage the crowds and
help them store a better code of
conduct among visitors. The
monument already has three
entrances, so one could imagine
an entrance, a normal exit and
an emergency exit. Of course, we
will experiment with this before
making it operational. The
proposal
comes after Venice tested out a
five year old fee to visit this
spring and summer, Greece
announced it plans to levy a 20
year old tax on cruise ship
visitors during the peak summer
season. The Prime Minister said,
overturism isn't a problem on
the whole in Greece, but it is
becoming one in popular
destinations like santorino
Mykonos, Barcelona, is also in
storing attacks on cruise ship
visitors that stay for less than
12 hours. Already, the city's
mayor has vowed to end short
term apartment rentals to
tourists by 2028 the city of
Bruges in Belgium also announced
its plans to crack down on short
term rentals, and it has had a
cap of two cruise ships a day
since 2019 in the nearby port of
ZBrush. Such moves come as the
UN's tourism agency says that
tourism is surging and exceeding
expectations by 2% with Europe
remaining the world's top
destination. I
Adam Curry: mean, go ahead and
go take a look at these European
cities. It's all immigrants in
the shops, in the restaurants,
regular or irregular, and it's
just been turned into one big
Disneyland. So yeah, we might as
well charge him those Horowitz's
were their cruise ship coming
over here, parking in front of
our beautiful beaches. We charge
you guys some money. This is,
this is a whole new world as
happening right before our very
eyes.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's a
lot of talk about Europe getting
nuked by the Russians. Well,
Adam Curry: that would certainly
make some room for people,
wouldn't it?
John C Dvorak: And, yeah, would.
And I, you know, it seems to. I
think it's almost as if we are
encouraging it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, did you see
the political article?
John C Dvorak: Which one? Oh,
there's
Adam Curry: a political article
talking about, well, you know,
we're really, we're really
starting to think about long
range weapons for Ukraine. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Well, here's, I
got two clips. Oh, good, good,
Ukraine. Mole, mole, money clip
Unknown: one and a half billion.
And Lam said, Britain will
provide more than 700
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. NTD let
me do this one.
Unknown: Secretary of State,
Anthony Blinken and British
Foreign Secretary David Lammy
have arrived in Ukraine. They're
on a joint visit to show support
for Kyiv. Ukraine is asking for
long range missiles to strike
deep into Russian territory, but
there are concerns in Washington
and some European capitals that
providing them would provoke
Russia into a direct conflict
with the West. Officials also
recognize that Ukraine needs
more support if it has turned
the war in its favor here up
Lincoln and Lamy, the bottom
line is this, we want Ukraine to
win, and we're fully committed
to keep marshaling the support
that it needs for its brave
defenders and citizens, to do
just that. As we're meeting here
today, we're again seeing Putin
dust off his winter playbook
targeting Ukrainian energy and
electricity systems to weaponize
the cold against the Ukrainian
people.
We're here to listen, to
understand the plan, to
understand the strategy and
understand the needs across a
whole range of fronts. Yes, of
course, equipment, but of
course, energy that has been
sabotaged, the support that's
needed on the humanitarian front
over these next few months, and
how we continue to mobilize the
international community on
Ukraine's behalf.
Blinken
has said he wants to hear
directly what kyiv's goals in
the war are and what Washington
can do to help achieve them.
Zelensky has repeatedly pushed
for permission to use Western
missiles to strike targets
within Russia President Joe
Biden and UK Prime Minister Keir
Starmer are set to discuss the
issue in Washington on Friday.
Biden previously allowed Ukraine
to fire us provided missiles
across the border into Russia in
self defense, but has largely
limited the distance over
concerns about further
escalating the conflict.
However, Russia suspects the
decision to give Ukraine long
range missiles has already been
made.
Adam Curry: Well, it's law, I
mean, the all that the only
thing that has to happen is our
president, after they wake him
up at four in the afternoon, all
he has to say is, yeah, it's
okay. It's already it's good to
go. Just have to say yes. And
the question is, when will they
say yes? And you know, this is
the military guys. They're,
they're the ones running all
this, and they don't care. What
city do you think will get hit
first in in Europe? Kia,
John C Dvorak: Kyiv, yes,
Adam Curry: Kyiv, but that would
just be a start.
John C Dvorak: No, once you did
one, then all hell would break
loose. And they'd had, you know,
if they wanted to have some fun,
they'd flatten Paris.
Unknown: I now,
Adam Curry: why would that
John C Dvorak: be? The French
are the big talkers about
sending troops over there
Adam Curry: if you want to have
some fun, yeah, blow that Eiffel
Tower up. So I play the second
clip this, UK. Yes,
John C Dvorak: the second clip
is just, it's about the UK.
Yeah, Panda
Unknown: Lam said, Britain will
provide more than $780 million
in additional support to
Ukraine. It will include around
350 million for humanitarian
needs and over 480 million in
loan guarantees before the end
of the year. That's in addition
to nearly $4 billion a year of
military support Britain has
already committed to Ukraine for
as long as needed.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so just 4
billion a year for as long as
needed. So just to
Adam Curry: recap, this goes
back to 2014 when Victoria
Newland came in. Started, the
Maidan, John McCain, Brennan,
everyone was over there getting,
getting everything all all
started. Of course, you know, we
had all kinds of corruption with
children of our elites who were
making money there, Hunter
Biden, but also Romney's kid,
all kinds of money just being
made, left and right. And before
this all started, there was a
peace treaty on the table. The
peace treaty was, was it looked
like everyone was okay with it.
Because why was Putin mad?
Because Zelensky came out and
said, Well, you know, I think we
should probably get some NATO
nuclear weapons here. Don't you
think that's a good idea? Am I
recalling that timeline more or
less correctly, more or less and
Boris Johnson went over and
said, hey, yeah, you can't sign
this peace deal that came much
later. You can't sign this peace
deal much later. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it would because
they had the peace deal done.
Yes, it was the Minsk. I think
this is the Minsk, one min and
as they were going to implement
it, that's when Boris Johnson
went over there
Adam Curry: and. And this was
detailed in a recent interview,
an interview with the one the
only Victoria Nudelman, ie
Nuland. There
Unknown: was a story first told
by former Israeli Prime Minister
navtali Bennett that that both
sides were really close to the
end to the successful end of the
negotiations. And then Prime
Minister Boris Johnson,
interfered and stopped
Ukrainians. Prevented Ukrainians
from from signing, signing the
deal. And then Ukrainian
Representative arahami, kind of
confirmed that, yes, he said in
an interview that there was some
kind of advice from Boris
Johnson to
stop negotiating and to win this
war militarily. Where is the
myth? Where is the truth?
Relatively late in the game, the
Ukrainians began asking for
advice on where this thing was
going. And it became clear to
us, clear to the Brits, clear to
others, that Putin's main
condition was buried in an annex
to this document that they were
working on.
Adam Curry: Oh, it was secret.
He buried it. It was a very
secret, secret demand he had,
Unknown: and it included limits
on the precise kinds of weapons
systems that Ukraine could have.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: NATO, nuclear
weapons. Oh, well, that was just
horrible
Unknown: after the deal such
that Ukraine would basically be
neutered as a military force,
and there were no similar
constraints on Russia.
Oh,
Adam Curry: so there she is,
full admission. So that's why
they stopped the deal, because
the whole thing was about in the
first place, about the nuclear
weapons, which Ukraine never
had. Ukraine is not a NATO
member, but they wanted to sneak
it in, encroaching on Russia.
And, yeah, I mean, remember when
Cuba had some nuclear missiles?
Well, we, we, we had to deal
with that, didn't we? These
people are horrible. And you
know what? She's so horrible.
She's become to look like the
person she is on the inside.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she's starting to
she looks exactly like a
horrible person. Jabba the Hutt,
yes.
Adam Curry: Here we go. Yeah,
yeah. The EU, yeah, that's what
she said. She doesn't care about
you. EU, she didn't care about
you. You'll see.
John C Dvorak: I'm actually
surprised that that clip didn't
have more backlash
Unknown: the interview. No, no,
John C Dvorak: the FD, FDU. When
she said, everyone in the EU
heard it, don't
Adam Curry: you remember the the
reporting, or she said an
expletive, they only focused on
the F word, not on the actual
what it was about, like
John C Dvorak: I was targeting
the EU, yeah, well, which is, of
course, I think the EU should be
targeted, and I think they've
I'm not the only one who thinks
that way, and I think pushing a
nuke nuclear exchange within
Europe and Russia would suit us
just fine, as long as they don't
shoot one at us. God, don't you
think? I mean, am I wrong?
Adam Curry: No, but I'm. I'm a
little more pacifist in this can
we? Can
John C Dvorak: we don't like the
idea, but I'm just saying it
seems that that's what we're
we're up to, and they're gonna
start well that we haven't
provoked one yet. So let's just
give them some long range
missiles and maybe a couple of
shots at Moscow might trigger
it. Yeah. We
Adam Curry: gotta get this
going, people. We gotta move.
Move, move. All right. I got to
switch, switch gears. I got to
move to something funny. Well,
John C Dvorak: before, oh, okay,
well, I want to play well,
Adam Curry: what do you have?
What
John C Dvorak: do you have?
Well, I want to play these.
These. There's some protests
going on around the world. Okay,
well, that's not funny. Yeah,
no, it's not funny, no. But
before I play that, I do want to
play this, since it kind of
relates to the clips you just
played. You just played, which
is the BBC had a representative
Poland on and I just want to
this was showed up on Tiktok.
And I just thought it was a good
clip, because it shows you that
in some Poland and Hungary in
particular, they actually the
leaders there care about the
people they're representing. And
I thought this was a good
exchange to classic BBC. How
Unknown: many refugees has
Poland taken? Zero. And you're
proud of that.
If you are asking me, if you're
if you are asking me about
Muslim Muslims, illegal
immigration, none. Not even one
will come to Poland. Not even
one. If it's illegal, we took
over 2 million Ukrainians who
are working, who are peaceful in
Poland, we will not receive even
one Muslim, because this is what
we promised. But
I asked illegal immigrants. I
asked about refugees and Jean
Claude Juncker, the commission
president, says that you're
racist. You sound. Proud of the
fact that you haven't taken any
refugees,
of course, because this is what
our people expecting from our
government. That's number one.
This is why our government was
elected, but this is why Poland
is so safe. This is the reason
why we have not even one
terrorist attack. Look at the
streets in Poland, and we can be
called populists, nationalists,
racists. I don't care. I care
about my family and about my
country. Now
Adam Curry: that's no good.
Can't have that. Caring about
your country. Maybe in Poland
you get a nuke. That's what
John C Dvorak: that's the
interesting angle to that was,
this is what the people wanted.
They wanted to be protected from
the bull crap and, well, that
that guy. We're not seeing that.
Here we see protecting the
bankers, as you mentioned. Keep
mentioning that. Yeah, yeah. You
know the benefits the bankers,
or
Adam Curry: some would say, the
Jews. It's not just bankers.
John C Dvorak: Do you know
here's so what I wanted to post
the anti arms protests in
Philly. This was interesting,
because this, I think this is a
democracy now clip, you might
want to put the warning up, but,
oh boy, this was not reported
anywhere.
Adam Curry: Oh man, where's the
Amy clip? I can't find Amy good
John C Dvorak: Don't you have to
play
Unknown: it. In Philadelphia,
several people were arrested
Tuesday evening as hundreds of
protesters gathered outside the
venue of the presidential debate
between Kamala Harris and Donald
Trump to demand an end to us
support for Israel's war on
Gaza. I'm definitely
not going to be voting for Trump
or Harris. Terrible war
criminals, and Kamala
want to act like she's one of
the people, and she is not. She
is part of the same
administration sending bonds to
death
ahead of Tuesday's debate,
Minnesota Governor and
democratic vice presidential
nominee Tim Walz was heckled by
pro Palestine protesters during
a campaign event in Phoenix,
Arizona. Meanwhile, in
Australia, hundreds of
protesters rallied outside a
weapons industry convention in
Melbourne. Earlier today, police
fired stun grenades, rubber
bullets and pepper spray,
arresting dozens of
demonstrators. Hundreds of
weapons traders representing at
least 30 countries are expected
to attend the land Force's 2024
military weapons Expo this week.
Oh,
Adam Curry: the weapons Expo
shopping. Let's go shopping. Is
Zelensky showing up? Expo? Is
Zelensky showing up? Let's go
shopping. I want some holy
range. Love
John C Dvorak: to go to the
weapons Expo.
Adam Curry: I bet it's a hoot. I
bet I bet there's a lot of
partying going on there. Can you
imagine those parties? Speaking
it's
John C Dvorak: got to be better
than anything the computer
industry ever put on. Well,
Adam Curry: speaking of such,
have you ever partied with Larry
Ellison?
John C Dvorak: I have never
partied with Larry Ellison, but
I do know him. You've met him?
Yeah, I actually introduced him
at an event once, and then I've
run into him a couple of times.
Can you
Adam Curry: give me a
characterization of Larry
Ellison? I mean, I've met him
once. He would, Oracle was my
client when we had think new
ideas. Actually, Ray Lane was,
was the big finance guy there,
who later was our VC at Kleiner
Perkins, and, and, you know,
and, and we, we did a Super Bowl
promotion for Oracle. We did the
ad for them, and we did the Sign
Up website. It must have been,
wow, 98 there was a 98 Super
Bowl. Does that sound right? I
didn't know, yeah. And he seemed
like a sharp guy to me. How
about you?
John C Dvorak: I've always
thought he seems like a very
smart guy, not a complete
asshole that I could tell, and
likable, very likable. I
Adam Curry: hear he's got great
weed. Just kidding. I hear he's
got great weed. I'm just
kidding. So he's now that he
stepped down from Oracle as the
Chief Executive Officer. He's
now the Chief Technology
Officer, which I think, I think
kind of makes sense. I mean, is
he really a tech guy? You always
see more like a sales guy? To
me,
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's kind
of a tech guy because, oh,
Adam Curry: I remember we also
produced the introduction of the
the network computer. What was
that? Was it called the network
computer? You remember that
debacle?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was a
little company rolled out now,
Gina Smith, actually, he named
her CEO of that thing for a
while. That was too early. That
was mistimed. It didn't work
out. It was a it was disaster,
yeah. So
Adam Curry: we did, what was the
name? Was it net? I had a name.
I
John C Dvorak: think it was
called network computer systems,
or something
Adam Curry: simple like that.
Because I remember we did the
the launch of that in New York
City. And it was, it was we
didn't do the production of it.
The stage production was
amazing. It had explosions and
then all kinds of smoke and and
like a helicopter flying through
the air. And it was a big.
Production. And then larisson
Ellison's opening line was, I
come to work that way every day.
I mean, it was, it was really,
it was a great bit. So Oracle
had a great had a great quarter.
Everybody, great cue, great cue,
guys, great cue that based upon
AI. And I hadn't really expected
that. I didn't expect Oracle,
nobody did. No and and so I
listened to the earnings call.
And the in the earnings call,
they also have their 2025,
guidance, oh, we're going to
tell you how great it's going to
be. And so this is where the
analysts call in, well, first as
a statement, you know, from the
CFO and the CEO and talk about
how great they are, and then
they have the analysts and
people who are doing coverage on
the company call up and ask
questions, and most of them
start with, hey, great quarter,
guys. You really knocked it out
of the park. That's really
great. Here's the question I
have for you, and in these
answers, this is where you want
to provide guidance, which you
know should make your stock
become very attractive to
institutional investors, etc. Am
I characterizing that correctly?
More or less. If you want to add
anything that I not do that
right? Well, typically,
John C Dvorak: the people in
Silicon Valley try to under,
under, under promote to get
better results. So you say,
well, we're gonna we look like
we're gonna do this much, and
then they do that much, plus a
panty, and the stock goes
skyrocket. Here's what they're
trying to
Adam Curry: do well. So Ellison
is here to promote the
technology that Oracle has and
how much money they're going to
make from it. So I have a couple
clips here. Larry,
Unknown: how do you envision the
market, transitioning from the
AI training phase to the AI
inferencing phase, there's,
there's some debate out there on
whether we have an imbalance or
a bubble on the front end of the
curve, because training is a
compute intensive and then
perhaps it recalibrates
differently somehow for the
inferencing Stage, which might
be less intensive, or do you see
the potential for high growth,
kind of all the way through both
of these phases? Well, a lot of
people think that, my God, I
send the kid to college, and
then I'm done. The training is
over. I got four years of
training, and then then I can
put the kid to work, and they'll
be doing inferencing. And that's
not true. This race goes on
forever to build a better and
better neural network, and the
cost of that training gets to be
astronomical. When I talk about
building gigawatt or multi
gigawatt data centers, I mean
these AI models, these these
frontier models, are going to
the entry price for a real
frontier model from someone
wants to compete in that area is
around $100 billion let me
repeat around $100 billion
that's over the next four or
five years, for anyone who wants
to play in that game. That's a
lot of money, and it doesn't get
it doesn't get easier. So
they're not going to be a lot of
those. I mean, we could, you
know, this is not the place to
list. Who can actually build one
of these frontier models.
Adam Curry: $100 billion will be
the entry price to play in this
AI game seems high, and I had to
look up frontier models, which
is just a fancy word for the
newest models, is not like
anything special is a frontier.
Oh, it's frontier like we're a
frontier podcast. So, hmm, what?
What can these specialized
models do? Larry,
Unknown: but in addition to
that, they're going to be a lot
of very, very specialized
models. I can tell you things
that I'm personally involved in
which which are using computers
to look at slide biopsies of
slides or CAT scans to discover
cancer. Also discover
Adam Curry: cancer. Have we
already discovered cancer?
Discover cancer. They're
Unknown: also blood tests we're
doing for, you know, for
discovering cancer. Those
Adam Curry: sounds like
Theranos, anybody. We'll do a
blood test and run the AI over
it, and then we'll discover
cancer. Uh huh, okay, for, you
know, if
Unknown: we're discovering
cancer, those tend to be very
specialized models. Those, those
tend not necessarily to use the
foundational, you know, that,
you know, the groks and the open
and the chatgpt and the llamas
and and the Geminis, they tend
to be highly specialized models.
Wow.
Adam Curry: So all that's bull
crap. You want to come to us,
because we can detect cancer in
your blood, which I think
there's pretty good tests for,
but for some reason we needed to
have ai do it. So maybe you can
just run into the drugstore.
This is Theranos. This is
literally what Theranos was
saying they could do. Oh, you
just do a quick little prick on
your finger, and then we'll see
if you have cancer. So then the
big question comes, hey, is
anyone going to monetize this
stuff? Can anyone make any money
on this AI stuff?
Unknown: You already have
traditional AI sprinkled
throughout all the oracles?
Products and capabilities, but
where do you see the
monetization, monetizable value
of Gen AI and the app side? How
long do you think it's going to
take for Gen AI to be a
meaningful revenue, not just for
Oracle, but software in general,
on the app side, not on the
training side. Thank you. Let me
start with with health care,
from everything from, uh, us
helping doctors diagnose
Adam Curry: different what?
John C Dvorak: Cancer?
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, this is
what's crazy. You I'm just
joking. No, keep playing. You're
laughing. You're joking. But
Unknown: that's it. Us helping
doctors diagnose, you know,
different diseases. When someone
goes in to get a sonogram, and
I've seen Hamana, Hamana,
Hamana, the nurses and the
technicians and the doctors
actually measure the baby's
skull and measure the baby's
spinal cord to see how the baby
that's utterly ridiculous. Let
Adam Curry: ai do that. You
don't need to look at a
sonogram. Doctor, no, no, we
need $100 billion to have aI
tell us that the umbilical cord
is wrapped around the baby's
neck. The
Unknown: computer should do all
of that. And if there's an
umbilical wrapped around the
fetus's neck, the computer
should discover all of that, and
that should all be recorded. The
doctor could get assistance from
a computer doing all of this
stuff, let the doctor know
Adam Curry: that whether there's
it's called a medical student,
Larry, there's stability
Unknown: or disease progression
or whatever the doctor needs to
know prior to the consultation
with the patient. That summary
is presented, created by AI,
human readable summary.
Adam Curry: It prints out a
report, okay, the umbilical
cords wrapped around the baby's
neck. Oh, that's good. I'm glad
I know that going into this
consultation, then
Unknown: AI listens to the
consultation between the doctor
and the patient. This is already
delivered. This is already out
there. It
Adam Curry: does a transcript,
just like we have for the
podcast, delivered to listen to
the
Unknown: constellation with
Doctor, the patient. If the
doctor orders a prescription,
the AI checks to make sure the
prescription is accurate and
enters the prescription the
doctor, the AI updates the
electronic health. Does
Adam Curry: this sound a lot
like your fridge will know when
your milk is out and will
automatically order it for you.
This is a Rube Goldberg machine
that cost $100 billion
Unknown: records the AI
transcribes and distributes lost
doctors orders, all from
listening to the conversation,
the doctor then gets a draft at
the end of the conversation that
the doctor can quickly review
and approve, and then the
prescriptions are filled and the
orders and the order order
orders are executed and the
electronic health records are
updated. We're already doing all
of that.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's amazing.
Oh, this is just already
John C Dvorak: doing all of
that. Why do they need the 100
billion dollar investment? Ah,
well, he
Adam Curry: has a kicker here.
This is the final clip, and at
the end, you'll hear him fall
apart and do something you
should never do, by the way,
he's channeling Ron Bloom here,
that whole sequence of well, you
know, then automatically, the
podcast will be delivered, and
we'll insert an ad, and we'll be
able to track that and know if
the person went into the store
online, and the future is just
limitless for $100 billion and
now Larry's gonna screw it up,
But first he's going to explain
what this really is. A spoiler
alert. It's a chat bot, just
Unknown: the user interface, our
user interface, you say, Oracle,
please show me Larry Ellison's
latest X rays. We it's a voice
interface. You just ask for
them. You know,
Siri. How
do you log on? Well, you look at
the computer, and it recognizes
your face and it recognizes your
voice, that knows you're the
doctor
Adam Curry: and you're
authorized to look at that. My
Microsoft laptop does that.
Unknown: All the authorization
is done with AI. You know, when
are we going to start monetizing
it? AI is just, I don't know.
Adam Curry: This is where he
this is the biggest mistake he
could have made when, because he
doesn't understand about apps.
He's talking about Oracle, and
he's making a big mistake here.
When are we going
Unknown: to start monetizing it?
AI is just, I don't know how to
describe the best way describe
it. It's not something you sell
separately. What it is, it is,
it is the diagnosis. It's the
diagnostic system, it's the
electronic health record system.
It is the pharmacy system, this
prescription system, the user
authentication, the login
system. It's all AI. And I know
people think it's a separate
thing that, oh my God, and I
hear a bunch of applications,
and they say, Oh, we got, we
got, now got AI agents we'll
charge for separately. I mean,
it's our applications are going
to be primarily AI applications,
everything. How do you charge
separately for everything? I
really don't I find it
bewildering when I listen to
them talk. I don't understand
what they're saying. I wonder,
I'll stop there. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you'll stop there.
He just said, we. No way of
making extra money on it. This
was a bad, bad mistake he made
here, and it's vapor. There's
nothing. Oh, yeah, you're gonna
need $100 billion
John C Dvorak: somebody's got to
come up with a jingle for the
Adam curry. I hate AI segment of
the show. It's a bubble.
Adam Curry: Well, Did you by any
chance watch the Apple event,
the special Apple event. I saw
some of it. I can give you.
Would you like my summary? Would
you Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm sure your
summary is as good as any Well,
I'd like
Adam Curry: to hear your your
version first. Hey,
John C Dvorak: we got some stuff
that's going to come out. We're
going to make a special phone,
and this is going to be the
greatest thing is sliced bread.
You have to buy this very
expensive phone. It's going to
be overpriced. But don't worry
about it, because we're going to
have software someday that might
take advantage of this
overpriced phone very
Adam Curry: close to mine.
Except I have some keywords.
Everything we make is gorgeous.
Our new chips will help you find
fix and fake pictures and videos
of your otherwise boring life
and make you feel like you're
awesome and gorgeous. Our AI
will help you get things done as
soon as we release it, which is
soon, everything's the same
price, but 20% bigger and 20%
more gorgeous. Yes, all of our
men here at Apple are still
disturbingly bow legged, but at
least they're gorgeous.
Unknown: That was my version of
the Apple event.
John C Dvorak: You need to say
gorgeous with more of a lisp,
gorgeous. There you go.
Adam Curry: I'm working on it.
It's just gorgeous. That's
John C Dvorak: kind of a
combination Lisp, Sylvester, the
cat. This is even funnier.
Adam Curry: Gorgeous, gorgeous,
just gorgeous. I was surprised
though, about the Cox media
story, which I finally got a
clip, had to come from France
20. Well
John C Dvorak: before you go to
there this, stay with the Apple
thing, for one thing, because
the big other story was this
$4,000 stupid phone that Huawei
supposedly sold 4 million copies
of, sight unseen, that has a
three fold aspect to it that's
vertical. It's a it's a horrible
looking product. I didn't see.
Have you seen this thing? I'm
Adam Curry: looking at it now.
What is up with it? It says 2800
you said $4,000 it says,
John C Dvorak: okay, 2800 Well,
it's expensive, yeah. No, 20
isn't 28 Yeah, maybe it's 28
whatever it is. I'm looking at
it. Who the hell you can buy a
used car for that? But okay,
really you
Adam Curry: can't buy, no, I
don't think you can buy a good,
you, a solid used car for 2800
bucks anymore. Well,
John C Dvorak: whatever you can
buy or not buy, that's a dumb
Adam Curry: Yeah, I like those
flip phones from Samsung, but
this, no, the Samsung one's
John C Dvorak: got the right
idea, because it makes it a nice
little compact unit. Your pocket
has got a screen on the outside.
It's dynamite. JC has one, yeah,
but this, every time I'm
impressed with what can
Adam Curry: I ask you? Can I ask
you about that phone? Is about
it? Is it gorgeous?
John C Dvorak: It's gorgeous?
Got it. Never quite right
either. No,
Adam Curry: you you're getting
there. It's gorgeous, it's
gorgeous, but every color is
gorgeous. It's just gorgeous.
But that
John C Dvorak: thing is just
hideous. I was
Adam Curry: reading in the Wall
Street Journal, dumb phones and
fax machines are the new boss
flex. Finally, finally, finally,
it's going to be cool again.
It's going to be cool again to
have a dumb phone. I
Unknown: don't know about the
fax machine.
John C Dvorak: The fax I mean,
what's the point of a fax
machine? Is idiotic, yeah.
Adam Curry: Anyway, Cox media,
this is the accusation. This is
a brief summary from France 24
from the technology chick.
Unknown: What happened is that a
couple months ago, the American
conglomerate Cox Media Group
admitted on their website that
they had the possibility of
listening in to private
conversations and then helping
advertisers target people
specifically. But we didn't
really have proof. And then just
a couple of days ago, what they
were able to obtain a pitch
deck, if you will, for
investors, in which they
advocate the power of voice
data. And here's what they say
in one of their sections, don't
just know what they're looking
for. So they're talking about us
here, users, consumers, know
what they are actually talking
about. So to really convince
their consumers of the power of
voice data, here's what they
add. I'm going to read it to you
because I think it's quite
chilling. Think about it.
Smartphones have become
appendages of our persons. We're
attached to them during the
workday. We bring them to date,
soccer games and even to the
bathroom. In most moments of the
day, there's a smart device
within a two inch radius of us.
That means a smart device. Is
likely within earshot when we
talk about our plans for the
weekend. For instance, badly we
need our kitchen remodeled, or
debate which SUV model is best
for the family with our spouse
and so much more. And they end
by saying, creepy. Sure. Great
for marketing, definitely. So I
mean, this is eerie. I mean,
this is evil. When you read
this, it's one thing to actually
know that it exists, but to
actually see how they're talking
about users as mere consumers,
it's really something else. Oh
no,
Adam Curry: I'm shocked. They
just look at us as dumb buyers.
Oh no, does gambling. I never
thought that this was happening
to this degree and sold like
this. And, you know, in fact,
I'd probably push back on it,
because I know that proximity is
used and, you know, but they
actually have been deploying
this in apps. I might add, it's
not, probably not in the in the
OS itself, but there's an SDK
you can get, you drop it in, and
your app can then, you know,
it'll say, Hey, give the give
your give this app your
microphone permission. Sure. Got
permission. EULA employees
John C Dvorak: any app you
install it gives you. It gives
them permission to go for your
contact list. Your turns your
camera on when it wants to,
turns your microphone on when it
wants to, yeah, yeah. It's a
spying device that you've agreed
to. Well,
Adam Curry: this is the
disturbing mini clip here that's
our our, our technology chick in
France, 24 who was always
wearing sneakers. And they do a
shot of the back from her. She's
got like, a fancy outfit on, but
she's always wearing sneakers.
It's like, I'm going to work.
But, you know, I just wear my
sneakers. And maybe that's the
to be tech cool. This is
something that is very
disturbing. I didn't know this
was going on. We've all
Unknown: experienced this
situation, I think, where you're
talking about something next to
a phone, and then minutes later,
even seconds later, you scroll
on an app, or you navigate
online and you find this
advertising that's specifically
linked to what you were just
talking about. So we all know
that it actually happens, right?
And it's even become a joke
online, you know, with women who
like purposely talk about
certain things next to their
husband's phone to try to
suggest maybe a gift ideas. So
that's just one way to do it. If
you have something to tell to
your your husband, what
Adam Curry: I didn't know this
was going on.
John C Dvorak: You've been
suckers.
Adam Curry: No wonder. I'm
seeing ads for Tiffany earrings.
Hmm. This is interesting. Well,
this is all no good.
John C Dvorak: This is quite
funny.
Unknown: This is all no good. It
really is no no, none of it
John C Dvorak: good. And it's
weak marketing too. You know,
they think, Well, it's great
because you really target
people, because you because they
talked about something or
another for five seconds, and
then let's go for it, and we can
sell an ad spot. Yeah, there's
better ways. There's all kinds
of ways of doing it, yeah,
without having to spy on an
individual,
Adam Curry: yeah? But they're,
they're drunk on it, man. It's
like, oh, look at all this data.
Look at all we can do. That's
beautiful. That
John C Dvorak: was what
interactive TV was all about
when it first showed up. Oh,
man,
Adam Curry: remember IPTV?
Remember all that IPTV? It's the
future, yeah. Oh, I talked to
John C Dvorak: always will be
Adam Curry: Did I talk did I
tell you about our, our, our
guy, our Hollywood, uh,
executive, about the the cable
channel. No. So remember he was
going to talk to, oh, right,
right, our cable channel, yeah,
yeah. Our V for VTV, yeah. So
he, he talked to the guy who
got, I think HBO started, and
couple other he has, he has
these contacts, yeah, it's not a
slouch. No, no, he's he's the
real deal. He says, Well, bad
news. My guy felt it was not
possible in this environment
that it would be incredibly
unlikely to get a carriage deal.
He did promise to give further
thought, but I'm currently not
optimistic. It's the state of
because I and I went back and I
said, but if we bring in Joe
Rogan, and we can bring all
these other big names, no, it's
not about Joe. He says it's the
state of the cable business and
the continually tightening
budgets and cutting not adding
channels, it's also the demo. It
continues to be an aging demo
that sounds like a death knell
John C Dvorak: when a cable is
yeah for the cable business,
when
Adam Curry: the cable business
won't even take a channel that
has Rogan and Megan Kelly and
code Bongino and anybody else,
we could get sucker into it, the
Jimmy door. Shoot, man, we'll
get, we'll get to a chunk, damn
John C Dvorak: chunks already on
cable. Hello. He doesn't need
us. So, in fact, why is chunk on
cable? Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: aging demographic,
there you go. That's what it is.
And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage say in the
morning to you, the man who put
2c into fact checks 3c say hello
to. Friend on the other end, the
one, the only Mr. John,
John C Dvorak: well in the
morning, Sam Craig is ships deep
on the graph. In the intercept,
a lot of the Dames and knights
out there,
Adam Curry: all right, cotton
gin is on the ball. Let me count
you troubles. Here we go. 2223
at the peak, trolls in the troll
room. People wanted to hear
something. Yeah, it's because of
the debate. Yeah. Well, no, it's
because we're the hyperscalers.
That's my new word of the day.
Hyperscalers.
John C Dvorak: Whatever that
means. Well, don't
Adam Curry: hear it all day on
CNBC. But is it? I don't know. I
think it's the it's, why would
we be it? Well, well, we're just
as vapid as chat. Ai, open AI,
that's, that's what they're
talking about, rapid at all the
hyperscalers, I think they mean
people who need to use a lot of
compute. If you use a lot of
compute, you're a hyperscaler. I
don't know. We should get a
definition. I just wrote it
down.
John C Dvorak: It'll come up on
Dvorak Horowitz. Well,
Adam Curry: you should talk to
Horowitz about the about the
hyperscaler. By the way, I liked
your ETF episode. That was good.
John C Dvorak: Ah, we're gonna
do a short seller. One next.
Yes, Dvorak.
Adam Curry: DH, unplugged. DH,
unplug.com, come ahead live on
Tuesdays comes I didn't. I
rarely just do it live, but
listen to it on Wednesdays. It's
a very entertaining overview of
the markets, and it's an
unrehearsed conversation, which
we join already in progress.
It's a pretty much it's a good
show. It's a good show.
John C Dvorak: Those we thank
you for that plug, because we
plug no agenda constantly. I
know, I know it's a deserved
plug. While we're at it's called
log rolling.
Adam Curry: We call it a pod
roll. Sorry, we, we
John C Dvorak: pod roll, log
roll. Hey, those trolls did we
wishes, by the way, surprises me
to this day that Joe Rogan's not
more into that,
Adam Curry: into pod rolling, or
blog rolling, pod rolling, yeah,
what do you mean?
Unknown: He doesn't like
John C Dvorak: let guys plug
stuff enough
Adam Curry: well, he plugged me
again just the other day.
John C Dvorak: He mentioned your
name.
Adam Curry: He said, Well, he
said, My said, my friend Adam
curry. You know who that is. You
know the guy who started
podcasting. He always says that,
John C Dvorak: yeah, what good
does that do to no agenda show
people
Adam Curry: go looking Adam
curry, guy who started
podcasting, nobody for anything.
Jamie, look that up. All right.
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Strength through joy. Yes,
witness Hogan's Heroes.
Unknown: That's something to go
on. Arrange a little party.
That is exactly what I was
thinking. Her general
good food and enough wine to
make him talkative and perhaps
even some charming feminine
company.
That is an excellent idea, by
the way, I have this young lady
friend, Gretchen. I met her at
the strength through joy picnic.
Please
spare me the details. Just
arrange the party.
Adam Curry: How about that?
Hogan's Heroes, good reference.
I was surprised by that
John C Dvorak: strength through
joy party,
Adam Curry: that's right, yeah,
the strength through joy party,
Democrats. Sorry, exactly.
Sorry. Democrat party, but you
guys are fact and you guys are
evil right now. You guys are the
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John C Dvorak: I thought you
sent out an alert. Are you? Ai?
Adam, intelligence,
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Thank you. And of course, it's
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Has many other features,
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We appreciate him so much. We're
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and we have our 17 100th
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Are we celebrating? Yep, do you
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comic strip blogger for Episode
1693 produced that one for you
in Mexico while I was
vacationing, and we titled The
show Freedom Force. And even we
could not resist this piece of
art, which was but we could
resist it, but we didn't. It was
hard. It was hard. It was just
so funny. It violated a rule. It
violated a whole bunch of two
rules,
John C Dvorak: actually, three,
maybe
Adam Curry: AI being one, it
being a person that was two. And
comic strip blogger was that the
third
John C Dvorak: one and the same
person we used in the previous
show? Oh, we
Adam Curry: violated many, many,
many, well, no, but we've, we've
done the same person. Oh, you
mean the same person subject in
the artwork,
John C Dvorak: yeah, two shows
in a row, very it's never
happened before. And
Adam Curry: the fact that it was
just AI, which is just kind of
mind boggling. But we had
complained the comic strip
blogger had not done a good job
with this prompt jockeying, of
putting lettering onto clothing,
etc,
John C Dvorak: because he tried
a couple times he wasn't surface
mapping properly. No
Adam Curry: good surface
mapping. So now he did a version
of Tim pool, the pool man with
his beanie, only the beanie was
worn by Vladimir Putin, who had
his headset on and he had his
microphone and a put casting on
the front. We just, we laughed
too much. I think that's why we
chose this. Like, what else can
we do? It's just that funny. And
people loved it. They really
did. And people just went like,
this is so good.
John C Dvorak: It was the bet.
It was the it was nothing really
to compete with.
Adam Curry: No, well, let me
take a look and see what we had.
I did,
John C Dvorak: like Fred the
mouse the rat. Like roundabouts
a lot. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: got some feedback on
the round. Did you get any
pushback on the roundabouts? No,
oh, lot of people weighed in.
Would they say? Here's an
example, Idaho. I moved to Nam
Nampa, Idaho in 2015 traffic was
horrible on the back roads. I
had to sit in traffic every day.
Over the past few years, they've
been pulling four way stops and
replacing them with roundabouts,
and they're amazing. Traffic is
so much better. I hate
government. I'm an anarchist. I
think governments are organized
criminal gangs. But that said,
Idaho has been very good at
maintaining our roads, and they
got rid of smog, and I don't
think they're doing it for
climate change here. Roundabouts
rule, but
John C Dvorak: we, I did get a
note from one of our guys who
once lived in Berkeley, and he
brought up, and I sent this to
you, have it too? Yeah, where he
said, We're we'd use the wrong
definition for roundabouts, the
ones in Berkeley. Oh, and
because it was supposed to save,
you know, climate change stuff.
And it's true what he said, in
Berkeley, there's a roundabout,
but there's a four way stop and
a roundabout. This is Berkeley
for you. So you have to stop,
and then you go into the
roundabout to make the and it
was to prevent people from
getting into wrecks on left
turns, which on a four way stop
is, I've never seen one. Well,
I've been driving for 50 years,
and I have never seen a wreck at
a four way stop because somebody
made a left turn. So, but, okay,
they put the roundabouts in
anyway. I but it's not a true
roundabout, as far as he's
concerned. No, a true
roundabouts, like the ones you
run into in England or France,
where it's like you're you come
up on the thing you got to yield
is angled so you go on to the
roundabout. And if you're in
France, I should mention the
rule is very they have a right
of way rule. So if somebody's
coming onto the roundabout on
the right, they have the right
of
Adam Curry: way, yeah, which is
not typical for most
roundabouts. No,
John C Dvorak: it's not typical.
Typically the roundabout, if
you're on the roundabout, you
have the right away, yeah. And
in France, no, I always enjoy.
Adam Curry: The roundabouts in
Europe. I thought they were I
thought they were convenient. I
liked him. We have
John C Dvorak: a true roundabout
at the top of the foot of, at
the top of Marin Avenue, there's
a roundabout that goes off to
1234, I think it's four or five
exits. So you can go right all
kinds of different directions.
And 12345, it's probably five.
And you and it's a real
roundabout, you go, there's no
stopping. And I find them to be
annoying because, and I'll tell
you why. Maybe in Europe, joke
because people are used to
nobody knows what they're doing.
In the United States, on a
roundabout, I remember stop
while they're in the roundabout.
Yeah, that's no good.
Adam Curry: That's wrong. That's
wrong. They're doing it wrong. I
do remember, um, moving to the
UK and the roundabouts, and it
happened probably three times
that I would enter the
roundabout going the wrong way.
Oh, that's terrible. And they'd
always have the Brits like and
like, and they'd hold up their
hands, like, foreigner like,
Yeah, I'm sorry, you know, and
try doing a three point turn on
a roundabout. It's a bad
situation. But otherwise, I
think roundabouts pretty good.
I'm sure you would rather have
the potholes fixed than
roundabouts. I'd
John C Dvorak: rather have
potholes fixed and more lanes on
the freeway than roundabouts.
Adam Curry: So we had Fred the
rat. See, there was, What else
was there? Some Mexico stuff, 47
with a sledgehammer, the camel,
lipstick, coffee cup. Yeah,
there really wasn't much else
was there?
John C Dvorak: Well, today,
there's quite a bit. I
Adam Curry: see a lot has come
in. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: a lot of it is
hilarious. So it's going to be
tough. Okay,
Adam Curry: oh, we'll be
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John C Dvorak: Douglas Ellis is
no slouch from New York City,
and he comes in with 1789 which
I think is a $1,700 donation in
charge of a lot of Wow. Send
Adam Curry: checks people,
John C Dvorak: 38 cents. And he
which will put him in. We have
guys. We're gonna we're putting
people into the 1700 club in
advance. So this is the second
one. I'll put him in the last
show too. I'll put him in. This
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and I had, but I had some recent
good karma, so I'm passing it
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celebrate 17 years and 1700
shows. Find where. Gentlemen, my
donation, along with Yeah, said
for 717 100, and that's how much
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send a check. My donation, along
with the will be my donation,
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$50 a month a few years ago,
made me a knight, or maybe more
I'd like to be he hasn't been
knighted yet. It's actually
Baronet at this point. I'd like
to be knighted, sir, maybe,
yeah, actually, maybe Baron. I'd
like to be knighted Sir Douglas
of the Bahamas at the round
table. I'd love to see some
prayer, Pirate Republic, beer.
No, I have a request. First is
something you can read to the
listeners to activate your no
agenda intelligence network.
Adam, you and I have discussed
this a little over email. In the
olden days, I used to listen to
Adam's daily source code. That
is olden days. I think I may
have gotten to that. I think I
may have gotten to that. My a
guest appearance. I can't read
what he said on on Adams, on the
Gilmore gang. I think of this as
the original Joe Rogan
appearance. That was a wonky
gang, but a fun listen.
Adam Curry: I don't know what.
Well, you remember the Gilmore
gang, don't you? Steve Gilmore?
Yeah, and those guys
John C Dvorak: during one
episode, maybe 10, four, 2006
but no later than 322, 2007 the
must. Poked and prodded. Jason
Calacanis was the guest. J, Cal,
J, Cal. He ended the show, yes,
yeah. He ended the show with a
fantastically funny riff where
he pretended to be Adam. Yeah,
he does voices. He does, uh,
stoned in the audio a six studio
parked on the streets of
Amsterdam. It was really good
and not mean spirited. No, it
was mean spirited. Jason's
voices are all mean spirited.
Don't kid yourself. The Golden
clip is not easy to find, I
guess not. I know there were
interpersonal issues among some
of you early podcasts, but that
may have made some of this
material vanish. Not sure what
he's talking about. Well, I
guess what he says around,
Adam Curry: let me, let me just
say something. Jason Calacanis
and I have known each other for
a long time. You've known him
for a long time. We poke fun at
each other. He's great. He just
moved to Texas. I'm gonna go
shooting on his property pretty
soon. Oh, are
John C Dvorak: you now? Of
course you can have this gun.
Would you like to shoot? I also
bought a Mac can.
Adam Curry: He also listens to
the show, by the way, yeah,
okay,
John C Dvorak: sure he does. He
does.
Adam Curry: He sends me notes
all the time, any, any,
especially the logical
impregnations that you do.
Unknown: Sure he does. He
Adam Curry: does. He does. He's
a listener, all right. Jason,
sending a donation just to prove
that you're listening. You
watch. There you
Unknown: go. Now
John C Dvorak: will be the day
now. Anyway, he goes on and
says, This golden clip is not
easy to find. I know there were
interpersonal issues among some
of you early podcasters that may
have made some of this material
vanish. No, no. But if someone
smarter than me could dig it up,
I would be great listen for the
no agenda. Audience, thanks,
gents, yeah,
Adam Curry: I'd love to hear
that too. Those are good days. I
would too, because it was true.
I was smoking weed in my Audi,
which I used at a studio, and
doing podcasts. Good times.
Thank you. Doug, uh, sir. Mr.
Bob dabulina checks in from
Franklin, Tennessee. $500 sir,
Mr. Bob dabulina here. Only
seven donors. Bob dobb is here
for you. Your show is too good.
We've got a support to keep you
all going. Please put some
voodoo on Kamala tax plan.
Hashtag. Save cap gains. Take me
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got it. First of all, don't be
confused about this. I guess
what he's talking about is the
Kamala saying I'm going to tax
unrealized gains. That's not
going to happen.
John C Dvorak: That'll No, it'll
break everyone in Congress.
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. That's
not going to happen. All right,
I'll take it out with Mr. Bob
Alina, Mr. Bob dabalina, because
I couldn't find a jingle. Thank
you very much.
John C Dvorak: Bowman McMahan in
San Antonio, you're right down
the street. $500 in loving
memory of James Patrick McMahon,
Adam Curry: moving on to
minister, Kat from Austin,
Texas, also right down the road.
What
John C Dvorak: happened to Sir
Luca?
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, moving on
to Sir Luca from savosa, oh,
from another one of those Swiss
guys. Yeah, the Swiss are
listening, yes? Well, Sir Luca
does. I think he also organizes
meetups. Happy birthday to me.
I. Greetings, Celinda Liu and f
the EU sir Luca, while
Unknown: I'm driving off
laughing, this is what I'll say.
Adam Curry: All right, you're on
the list,
John C Dvorak: and now we go to
miss Minister cat in Austin,
three, three, 3.33. You guys are
my sanity in this rapidly
declining world. Put it in the
Red Book that hydrogen fuel
cells are coming. They've
already come, and Taylor Swift
will have a late term abortion.
That's a good prediction.
Unknown: That's pretty funny.
John C Dvorak: Uh, yours, uh,
yours in ridicule and hopeful
peach peach peach peach. Peace a
minister cat of Austin, Texas.
All right.
Adam Curry: Minister cat, thank
you very much. We move on to
Duchess Kim, three, three, 3.33.
And Duchess Kim has a birthday,
turns 41 on the 22nd and sent in
a note. This is Duchess Kim,
keeper of the nutty fluffers.
Once jingle. Screw your freedom,
little girl, yeah. And a double
goat. Karma. Well, we can do let
me just make sure I got two
goats. We have two goats. Thank
you. Round them up, calling all
of gibbonation. I'm in need of
any prayers, karma, rain dances
and shoot even voodoo dolls at
this point, if it will help, I'm
going in for my third and
hopefully final retinal
detachment surgery on the same
eye. Now this is, this is Dame
Kim, who has been through this,
right? We've been through this
with her, Yes,
John C Dvorak: man. And planning
to do,
Adam Curry: oh man,
John C Dvorak: this is not
mistaken. You have to keep your
head upside down. You got to
keep it down looking to the
ground so they put you in a
special bed. You have to stick
to this has got to be the most
this got to be one of the most
uncomfortable things you can do
Adam Curry: no pressure, boys.
But with being blind in my good
eye due to a macular hole, I
will be counting on you guys to
make me laugh, and I would be
looking forward to your shows
more so than usual. Over the
next few weeks, we guarantee you
we're going to make you laugh.
John C Dvorak: Making you laugh
when you're after this operation
is necessarily a good thing.
Adam Curry: Well, it helped. The
last time she said, Well,
John C Dvorak: she didn't help
that much. She had to go in for
a second round. Also,
Adam Curry: since I will not be
able to see well enough, can I
please get a biscuit on my 41st
trip around the sun on September
22
Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. I
Adam Curry: have a feeling Jay
will add you to the list for
then. She's very good at that.
Happy birthday, Adam, thank you.
Don't worry, we're not getting
older. We're just getting finer
and more expensive, like wine,
man, I really wish I had my
rubbleizer tote bag or challenge
coin for my birthday. You two
are the bee's knees and I would
be wearing a tinfoil hat on my
head and living under my bed if
it was not for you to keep up
the great work and four more
years as Dutchess Kim keeper of
the nutty fluffers. Screw your
freedom.
Unknown: You've got karma a
Adam Curry: double as requested
karma. There we go.
John C Dvorak: Got you covered
onward with and get well soon.
Yes. Kim Nathan Rottier in West
Locke, Alberta, Canada, three,
three, 3.33. And he has a small,
very small, you can tell by the
pitch there, little bitty note
dear Adam and John, after seeing
the sad puppy, the couple does
last show so many shows in a
row, I decided to move my annual
donation up a month. And my 33rd
birthday is coming up, so I'd
like a fresh biscuit, please.
They always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. Fresh biscuit. And
as a side note, Adam, yes, your
pronunciation of my last name is
excellent, as it is French, but
unfortunately, during the 1700s
it migrated to Holland, then to
Canada in the 50s. So it's
changed to
Unknown: to wrote rotary
John C Dvorak: roti roti rotar.
I don't like it. We're just
gonna stick with rotier. We're
gonna stick with roti a side. I
still like
Adam Curry: rotate. That's what
it is. Man, your rotate us.
Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Is rototi Ro roto
here, Rotater, I don't know.
Rotator rotor, yeah. Okay. On to
our first
Adam Curry: Associate Executive
Producer, $250 mark from Graham
Washington also sent us a note,
and I have the note here. John
Adam, thank you for the years of
entertainment. Just to say I
can't just to say no to an exit
strategy, please give me
relationship karma. Because
although I will be always,
although I will always love my
ex, Oh, I must find a way to
move on. Oh, sorry about that,
and you will move on. You will
it'll be okay. Also, please give
her a jobs, karma. Lastly,
please give a f cancer and
prayer for sweet little four
year old Oakley. She's a
fighter, but we can use all the
help she can get. Adam, I love
that you found your way to
Christ, and hope to follow in
your footsteps. Well, follow in
his footsteps, absolutely. So we
will give you relationship, F,
cancer, karma and and you'll be
fine. I really think so. I
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: The Harper team
is back with in Temecula. Oh 250
bucks, Temecula, Temecula, the
Harper team would like to
shorten last week's message to
the following. Uh, okay, if
you're ready to get at the hell
out of California and move to
the great State of Tennessee, we
can help with that. However, if
you're committed to going down
with this ship in Southern
California because you refuse to
leave the perfect weather, we
totally get it. We can help with
that too. Call, text us at
760-450-4165, have a great week.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you.
Harper team, sir. Eternus quivi,
I think it is Laredo, Texas. He
wants to wish me happy birthday
with $250 for the for the show.
Thank you. Appreciate that.
John C Dvorak: Dame Beth in
Tucson, Arizona, 222, the 805,
rooftop meetup was the spookiest
ever. Probably a lot of spooks
in Arizona, we determined that
everyone was a spook or spook
adjacent, except me. I'm just
the chief of staff to an elected
official. Oh, wait. Jingle.
Fletcher, four more years. Thank
you for your courage. Dame Beth,
the Baroness of Baja, Arizona.
Four more years.
Adam Curry: Daniel perutzo,
Courtenay, British Columbia,
222, short row of ducks. Hello.
John Adams to switch Roo, just
want to say, Wow, what a great
show you guys put together. I
see a lot of crap out there. You
guys really rise above it all.
My smoking hot wife hit me in
the mouth of no agenda about six
months ago. We both look forward
to listening to your show
together while working on our
awesome little farm on beautiful
Vancouver Island in Courtenay,
British Columbia. Oh how nice.
Yeah. And you know, people who
know agenda together stay
together. So I would like to
dedicate this Associate
Executive producership to my
wife, Bailey Davies. It's our
15th anniversary today,
September 12, and I can't thank
her enough for being by my side
through all these crazy times.
And I look forward to the next
15 years and beyond. Could you
give her a deduction
Unknown: you've been D douche
Adam Curry: and some baby making
karma. Yeah, we're good for that
too. Also toss in a yak karma,
unless you have elk karma only
Yak, but I think it doubles. I
think Yak and Yak double as elk.
She is off to Cranbrook tomorrow
on her first hunting trip with
her new gun. She's such a
badass. Happy anniversary. Baby.
Cheers from D you bet
Unknown: you've got Parma.
You've
Adam Curry: got Parma. Remember?
Gotta name your baby after Adam
and John
John C Dvorak: Eli, the coffee
guy in bensonville, Illinois,
209 12. While researching Walter
water filtration to improve the
quality of my coffee brewing, I
ended up going down a rabbit
hole regarding Atrazine in the
water supply. Turns out Alex
Jones is right. Well, we played,
actually, he says seed, seed man
jingle. You'd like to hear that,
but we played a clip years ago
that was on Democracy Now, from
a professor at Cal who had done
all the research on this. Yes, I
remember that. And yes, Alex
Jones is right. There's the
frogs gay. Remember, folks
always use filtered water for
drinking or brewing coffee and
and I do. I use the Clearly
Filtered water, yeah, which
takes out fluorine too. And
visit gigawatt Coffee
roasters.com use code ITM for
20% off your order, stay
caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy,
and they do make a good, a good
blend of they make good, they do
a good job of roasting beans.
Adam Curry: Did you say
fluorine?
John C Dvorak: Said fluoride.
No, I
Adam Curry: thought you said
fluorine, which was kind of
weird. Well, I
John C Dvorak: thought I said
fluoride. I said
Unknown: weird. I don't like a
button. Chemicals. Weird, yes,
be quiet. I don't like them
putting chemicals in the water
that turn the friggin frogs gay.
Adam Curry: Beachview farm, Oak
Harbor, Washington, two. Oh,
2.02, nice, nice, nice. Number
there. Thank you both for what
you do. Adam, keep reminding
people to eat real food grown by
proper farmers. Find your
regenerative agriculture
operation near you? Any
producers in the Pacific
Northwest that want the best
Wagyu beef in the universe,
please support beach view farm
on Whidbey Island. Visit
beachviewfarm.com. For all your
excellent meat and food search
needs.
John C Dvorak: Well, how about
the new one? This
Adam Curry: is new. Yes, I have
meat needs,
John C Dvorak: so this a wagyu
American wagyu. Is that what
we're dealing with here?
Adam Curry: I think so. Sounds
like a good deal, and it's up
near you or near Mimi. I wonder
John C Dvorak: if this is the
group that sells the wagyu to
Costco. Oh, that's
Unknown: a good question.
John C Dvorak: Somebody told me
that they, they Ryan, know the
guys who sell their wagyu to
Costco, and I said, woohoo, and
I never heard back. Must be fake
news. It's fake news. Somebody
sells it to him.
Unknown: Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a
competitive atmosphere, but we
laugh a lot. Now, everyone hug
and share a secret. You've got
karma
John C Dvorak: each view farm in
Oak Harbor, yeah, or actually,
Whidbey Island, interesting, I
didn't know there was a
interesting Linda Lou padkin in
Lakewood, Colorado, as she comes
in with 200 bucks as usual, and
asks for jobs karma and says, I
think you have a lure and for a
resume that's alluring, Oh, I
see what she did. Yeah, she's
switching up her copy or ad
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's
Adam Curry: vote for jobs karma.
Wonderful. Linda Lou, thank you
for being here every single
episode. And we wrap up our
Associate Executive producers
with Anonymous with $200 no
note. So that means a double up
karma for you, anonymous,
Unknown: you've got
Adam Curry: karma. And thank you
to all of these executive and
Associate Executive producers of
episode 1694 we are well on our
way to 1700 thank you for
producing this episode of the
show. Our
Unknown: formula is this, we go
out. We hit people in the mouth,
Yeah,
Adam Curry: shut up, shut up,
slave, shut up, shut up, shut
up, shut
Unknown: up, shut up, all right,
Adam Curry: I have some things,
but maybe you have some things
that you want
John C Dvorak: to get out get
this out of the way. This is the
Adam Curry: it always sounds
like it's no good when you say I
want to get no I know it's got
to
John C Dvorak: be out of the
way, but good, that's what it's
no good. I got no good clips
here that are going to get out
of the way. But first, let me I
do have a humorous clip.
Unknown: Okay, dead in cubicle.
Oh, okay. This is this. We know
this story.
A Tempe Wells Fargo employee
died at her desk, and 12 news is
now confirming that it may have
taken as many as four days for
anyone in the office to notice.
Good evening, and thanks so much
for joining us for 12 News at
10. I'm
kadiva devine. I'm Mark Curtis.
It's a story we first reported
yesterday. Tonight, Tempe Police
are confirming the timeline of
when the woman clocked in to
when her colleagues found the
body. 12 news journalist
Gabriela vaquerra is in the
studio with New details tonight.
Gabby, four days. I
mean, this poor woman went four
days undiscovered. It's hard to
believe, and that's
a question many employees are
asking themselves. Tonight, I
spoke with an employee who said
that she shared her perspective
on the workplace environment,
and they say it's a big
building, but most people don't
work there on a daily basis, a
Wells Fargo employee went to
work the morning of Friday,
August 16, and never went home.
Tempe Police tell 12 news 60
year old Denise Prudhomme
scanned into work at seven
o'clock in the morning. Four
days later, police responded to
the office building near
Washington Street and priest
drive for reports of a subject
down. Prudhomme was declared
dead. The Tempe Police Criminal
Investigation Bureau is
investigating, but do not
suspect foul play. A Wells Fargo
employee exclusively spoke with
12 news but asked not to be
recorded or identified out of
fear for their job. They say a
colleague found Prudhomme dead
at her desk in a cubicle while
walking around the bill. On
Tuesday, August, 20.
Adam Curry: If I can just make a
programming note, this is a
really old story.
John C Dvorak: No, it's not
that. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's weeks old.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's been
sitting around. You won't let me
play these things. What do
Adam Curry: you mean? I have
never forbidden you from In
fact, I had the clip myself for
a couple shows, but it's like,
it's like, I just feel, I
John C Dvorak: just think, it's
a sad, sad story that needs to
be repeated. It's this poor
woman. She goes to work for
days. Nobody calls in and say,
Hey, where's Dad Becky or
anything? I mean, this is the
typical, I don't know Wells
Fargo is, you
Adam Curry: know, I have, I have
this recurring nightmare where
it's, uh, it's a Thursday, and
I'm waiting for you to come on
John C Dvorak: because I'm dead
in my cubicle for days
Adam Curry: since Sunday, no one
has checked on you. Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: that doesn't
happen, believe me, they're
always checking on you.
Adam Curry: You sound rather
irked about it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: let's go to this.
This is something we can both
talk about. FBI thwarts a one
man riot. Breaking
Unknown: news, the Justice
Department says a planned terror
attack in New York City has been
thwarted. The suspect allegedly
wanted to target Jewish people
on October 7, one year after the
attack in Israel, the suspect
was quoted by the FBI as saying,
If we succeed with our plan,
this would be the largest attack
on US soil since 911 CBS Nancy
Cordes is at the White House
with new reporting. Good
evening, Nancy, it is chilling
to read what this really is.
Nora, and it took the FBI
working with Canadian law
enforcement to identify and
apprehend the suspect, who is
now accused of plotting to carry
out a mass shooting at a Jewish
Center in Brooklyn, which
authorities say he wanted to do
just over a month from today.
The suspect's name is Mohamed
shahzab Khan. He is a 20 year
old Pakistani citizen who lived
in Canada. He allegedly began
posting on social media in
support of ISIS last November,
and eventually, without his
knowledge, began communicating
with two undercover law
enforcement officers. That's
what led them to him. According
to Attorney General Merrick
Garland, the defendant, is
alleged to have planned a
terrorist attack in New York
City around October 7 of this
year, with the stated goal of
slaughtering in the name of ISIS
as many as possible. October 7,
of course, will mark one year
since the brutal surprise attack
by Hamas on Israeli citizens
that left nearly 1200 people
dead. Now, Khan was apprehended
just a couple of days ago in
Quebec. It's believed he was
headed towards the US border. A
resident in the area said she
saw police officers outside her
home put a man in handcuffs on
her front lawn. He
John C Dvorak: was headed south
toward the US border. He was, he
was in Quebec, going to the
Hortons that was south of the
city. He's heading toward the US
border. This is the biggest six
week bogus story of the of the
Adam Curry: month, but it does
have the international aspect,
which is an extra payment, as we
learned. But if it's
international, then you get more
money for thwarting this, this
attack. They threw in some isis
that was good in, you know, big
ISIS, that's terrorism you get,
I mean, this is a money maker.
This was a money making
operation, the six week cycle,
the Ching now, there was a
separate terrorism story which
came out this week, which has to
do with telegram. And as you
know, I think Pavel is still
under house arrest, the CEO of
the telegram app, and he has
already said, Oh, all right,
we'll do more moderation. We'll
do some moderation so that app
is now compromised. But wait, we
have a little more. This
Unknown: apartment says it's
uncovered a plot to incite a
race war, arresting suspects
allegedly part of a white
supremacist group plotting
attacks. 34 year old Dallas
humor and 37 year old Matthew
Allison are facing more than a
dozen federal charges. According
to the indictment, the group,
which refers to itself as terror
grant, allegedly directed its
members to commit hate crimes
against black people as well as
Jewish people, immigrants and
members of the LGBTQ plus
community. The indictment also
claims that the group plotted to
quote kill high value targets,
including a U S senator, and
incited followers to carry out
terror attacks around the world.
The
John C Dvorak: threat of
domestic terrorism is on the
rise inside the United States,
and acts of violence carried out
by white supremacists is the
single most lethal type of
domestic violence extremism that
we see in the country
Adam Curry: right now. I'm
sorry, what domestic white
supremacist terrorist attacks
have we seen? Seen recently in
the country that being the most
severe form of terrorism we see
right now. Can you recall any?
No, well, they did. The
indictment
Unknown: claims that Huber
posted pictures at the 2016
Pulse nightclub shooting in
Florida as an example of what
members could carry out. The two
suspects are in contact with
white supremacist? No,
Adam Curry: that was done by a
jilted gay guy,
John C Dvorak: if I recall, or
something like along those
lines. But it wasn't a white
supremacist? No. But if you
listen to the parse it again,
you have to back it up and parse
it because she never said it was
done by a white supremacist to
say, play it. There's a little
word as she uses in there, which
is very, very tricky at the end,
at the end, not to be what she's
just said. It just back it up.
10 seconds before I interrupted,
the
Unknown: indictment claims that
Huber posted pictures of the
2016 Pulse nightclub shooting in
Florida as an example of what
members could carry out, could
carry
John C Dvorak: out, an example
of what they could carry out,
not what they did carry out. No,
of
Adam Curry: course not. They're
John C Dvorak: just too schlub
examples. You're right. This is
bold crap.
Adam Curry: I'd be very careful
on Mastodon if I were some
people, because if they're going
after this on Telegram, they're
gonna go after all kinds of
stuff, all kinds of salute.
Sure. They will. Hate crimes,
pre crime. Oh, you said
something bad. You used words,
it's no good. What are we coming
to? Since LGBT was brought up, I
have a trans Maoist segment for
us.
Had that for a while. I just dug
it up. It's cute. My favorite
hate Listen, although this
wasn't my favorite hate Listen,
per se, it was one of the
subjects of my favorite hate
listen. In this case, Kara
Swisher, your protege, was being
interviewed on the Jillian
Michaels podcast.
John C Dvorak: Jillian Michaels,
the lesbian bodybuilder,
Adam Curry: that's the one who
also has a an African American
adopted child. And you know, it
was a perfect it was a match
made in heaven.
Unknown: These two on the
podcast,
John C Dvorak: but sounds like
an opportunity to flirt. Well,
the opposite
Adam Curry: happened, and I am
liking what Jillian Michaels did
to Kara Swisher. So we started
off. They're talking about, of
course, with Kara, everything's
political. And when it's
political, it's about those
horrible Republicans. They're
horrible, and Trump, and Trump
is like, horrible. They're no
good. They hate gay people, they
hate trans children. And they're
talking about the laws being put
in place by states to not allow
underage children to undergo
transgender surgery and
therapies medical procedures,
which I think you and I agree,
is kind of a good idea not to
allow that, because it is pretty
much the definition of child
abuse when you
John C Dvorak: put kids, or
worse, yes, when
Adam Curry: you put kids on
puberty blockers and all kinds
of stuff, that is, it's not
good. It's not healthy, and
it's, quite frankly, it's
demonic. So we start off with
Cara explaining what this Not
really. Republicans don't care
about trans kids. What
Unknown: happens is, whether you
realize it or not, you're
becoming a weapon by they're
trying. They didn't, they
weren't able to turn the
bathroom issue. Remember a
couple of years ago, they were
all worried about transgender
people going in and bothered
exactly it didn't work. I've
always completely dismissed that
argument. It didn't work, and so
they moved on to sports, which
is a much more complex and
difficult issue, especially if
you're a parent of a female
athlete, it's a big deal. These
girls have worked so hard to get
to where they are, they
shouldn't compete unfairly with
other people. So Correct. You
have a problem with that
argument. I don't I because I
don't. First of all, I think
it's much more complex, and we
should all have a discussion
about it. Agree, I agree.
Because the problem I have is
it's being used by the right
who's pretending they're
concerned with girl athletes,
when what they're really trying
to do is go after trans people
in general. And honestly, the
reason they're going after trans
people is because they're still
angry about what gay people have
gotten, which is marriage,
adoption, full rights as
citizens. This you're all over
here. They're aiming there's the
most cynical people on earth.
They have never gotten over the
loss of gay marriage. This is
what they're actually going for.
And you're over here arguing
this. To me, the whole issues
that's happened is this is a
group of people that want the
government to they accuse the
left of doing things they're
doing. You're right. But I think
vice versa, perhaps, but, but
here's it should be a decision.
That should be a decision
between parents, their doctors,
and parents. What. The children,
well, mostly parents and the
doctors don't understand it all
of this, oh, now they're stupid.
Like, so let's let the
government decide.
Adam Curry: So I has this got my
attention? Like, Oh, someone's
schooling. Kara Swisher, who
then turns this around and says,
it's really because they hate
gay people. This really because
they're still so mad that gay
people can get married in
America, so which is, by the
way, a state's issue. It's not
an American issue, it's federal
issue. States can determine
that, and they're mad about
that. So they don't really care
about kids. They just hate gay
people. And then Jillian
Michaels comes in, kind of
John C Dvorak: a weird
projection, oh, because Thank
you.
Unknown: Even. She
Adam Curry: even said it.
They're projecting. She even
said it. They do what they
accuse others of. Now this Kara
Swisher is a horrible person.
She really is, I just have to
say it. She's a stuck up,
arrogant, horrible Democrat,
which puts her in the demon
camp. And then Jillian Michaels,
very intelligently, comes out
with information she has read
about W path and the cast
review, which you first
introduced here to the show. And
we know what the you know. Just
give us a brief rundown on the
cast review, a
John C Dvorak: brief the cast
review came out in England, and
it went through all the
documents they could find, lots
of them, and a lot of studies,
and said the idea of
transitioning kids is a bad idea
and let them grow up, and then
they can transition when they're
older. So
Adam Curry: Jillian Michaels
brings this to the table, and
listen what Kara Swisher does
Unknown: have you reviewed the W
puff files? Which one's the one
from England? No, no, that's the
cast review. Okay, so the W puff
files was Michael schellenberger
and me, I don't want to talk
about you. Don't like Michael.
Adam Curry: Okay, oh, I don't
want to talk about Michael
schellenberger. I can't talk I
don't care. I just don't want to
talk about him. This is he's a
journalist, a journalist. It
just is Michael.
Unknown: I just can't talk about
him because, you know,
he did the Twitter files,
nevertheless actually
inaccurate. So okay, but allow
it's
Adam Curry: inaccurate, though
it's inaccurate. She doesn't
even know what the cast review
is, but it's actually
inaccurate, though actually
Unknown: inaccurate. So okay,
but a lot, but he did a data
dump, okay, so take his opinion
out of it and look at the data.
Oh,
Adam Curry: thank you. Jillian
Michaels is doing some amazing
work here. Take your opinion out
of it and look at the data. And
the
Unknown: parents within this
organization, right? So they've
leaked emails, text messages,
video, right? They're
acknowledging. The experts
within the WPATH are
acknowledging that the parents
don't understand, and the kids
don't understand, the kids don't
understand. They are sterilized.
They don't I think this is take
I do not. I think the people
know what they're doing.
There's, you know, it's really
interesting, because I was just
looking at Elon Musk is not
dumb, and he just said, I didn't
understand. Ridiculous. He's
lying. Jillian, he's lying.
Okay, wow,
is this good, right? It
continues. He's
lying, actually lying to you.
Look at the Castro. This is the
most powerful, richest man on
earth, and he's dumb. Give me a
break.
Adam Curry: In other words, Elon
Musk doesn't, didn't understand
that this transition would be
puberty blockers, which change
all kinds of things in your
child's body and brain, but he's
just dumb. Oh, really, Elon knew
what he was doing, and it's
okay. So you think
Unknown: he was foreign and then
changed his mind. I don't, I
don't. I think he's a terrible
parent who wasn't available to
his kids, and his daughter is
speaking out because he's trying
to claim her near he's making up
ridiculous gay tropes about her
saying, Oh, I knew he was gay
because he said, fabulous lot.
Yes, daughter, who is now
daughter, is saying this is not
true. He's using it for his
whatever demented reason. This
man is doing it, but everything
he says is untrue. Family
members have said it's untrue.
So that's fair, and for him to
pretend he didn't know what was
going on is here's a person who
tells you how smart he is every
day of the week and twice on
Sunday, and here he's
Adam Curry: dumb. So then
Jillian Michaels comes with the
receipts, explains what the cast
review actually contains from
the data they have collected,
and schools Kara Swisher to a
very satisfying degree, within
Unknown: the cast review and
within the WPATH files, the
parents have been told, if you
don't support your child in this
they'll become suicidal. That is
the narrative. So the parents
are like,
Oh my God. Like,
I don't want my child to become
suicidal. I want them to think I
don't love them. And then the
transitioning begins, the
medicalization piece begins, and
that's the part that I
personally find, based on the
cast review and the WPATH files
alarming, and it has some kids
other kids face. Very much
should move down these roads. Do
you understand that when you
block people? Yes, I do. You're
impacting the development of
their brain. I do understand. So
how is that okay? They should be
older. You and I are
here. That's correct. You
know why they're weaponizing
we're here together, yes, but
they're weaponizing it for
something else, because they
Adam Curry: hate gay people. Go
away. Kara Swisher, I can't
believe that Vox media allows
her to still take a check from
them. It's she's really a
horrible person, and then, and
then just say, well, they should
be older. That was the whole
point of the conversation. I
John C Dvorak: Well, that was a
depressing series. I
Adam Curry: didn't think it was
depressing at all. I thought it
John C Dvorak: was because you
pointed out there's a person
that should have been a canceled
cancel.
Adam Curry: I'm not for
canceling anybody.
John C Dvorak: But yet, there
she is.
Adam Curry: I was just, it was
just crazy.
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way, I
did want to play this at the
beginning of the show, to play
it now, because this is was 911
Adam Curry: Yes, today's 911 No,
today's 912 but, yeah, but
John C Dvorak: the show was 911
but we were celebrating it.
Yeah, oh yeah. We said we
celebrate. And I had a clip that
I wanted to remind people that
on the on 910 the day before 911
we have to mention that this is
what Rumsfeld said. This shows
up every year. We should play
it. We don't play it much. But
this is Rumsfeld before, the day
before, and he was Secretary of
Defense, I believe he was
Secretary of Defense, the day
before all hell broke loose,
this is what he said. We are,
Unknown: as they say, tangled in
our anchor chain. Our financial
systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we
cannot track $2.3 trillion in
transactions. We cannot share
information from floor to floor
in this building because it's
stored on dozens of different
technological systems that are
inaccessible or incompatible. We
maintain 20 to 25% more base
infrastructure than we need to
support our forces at an annual
waste to taxpayers of some three
to $4 billion yes,
Adam Curry: and you know, since
they couldn't communicate from
floor to floor, and they had
that information in building
seven, they decided to move the
floors closer together so so
that they could communicate
better.
Yeah, $2.7 trillion in 2001
well, we
John C Dvorak: still it's worse
now, no, yeah,
Adam Curry: it's a trillion just
the Ukraine. Since you brought
that up, here's a reminder of
Kevin mcpadden, first responder
in New York on 911
Unknown: the Red Cross rep was
like, he goes over when he
anything, he says, Well, you got
to stay behind this line because
they're thinking about bringing
the building down. They didn't
say what buildings. They just
said bringing a building down.
So we're like, okay, you know,
we'll take that word before you
know, we'll stay behind the
line. And he went over and he
talked to one of the through all
the commotion. He goes over and
he asks one of the Red Cross or
one of the firefighters, what
was going on. I guess I don't
know if he got an answer or not.
He came back over with his hand
over the radio and what sounded
like a countdown. And at the
last few seconds, he took his
hand off, and you heard 321, and
he was just saying, just run for
your life. Just run for your
life. And then it was like
another two three seconds. You
heard explosions like, boom.
It's like a distinct sound. It's
not like when the compression
like, boom, boom, boom, boom,
like floors that were dropping
and collapsing. This was BA,
boom. And like, you felt a
rumble in the ground like,
almost like you wanted to grab
onto something.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Then, do you remember Trump?
John C Dvorak: By the way, that
was specifically WTC seven.
Adam Curry: Yes, that was WTC
seven. But Trump was recorded on
911 talking about towers one and
two.
Unknown: The World Trade Center
was always known as a very, very
strong building. Don't
forget, that took a big bomb in
the basement.
Now the basement is the most
vulnerable. Can you even hear
that? Is
Adam Curry: it inaudible? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, it's no I can
hear.
Unknown: And It withstood that.
And I got to see that area about
three or four days after it took
place, because one of my
structural engineers actually
took me for a tour, because he
did the building. And I said, I
can't believe it, the building
was standing solid, and half of
the columns were blown out. I
mean, so this was an
unbelievably powerful building,
if you know anything about
structure, it was one of the
first buildings that was built
from the outside the steel. The
reason the World Trade Center
had such narrow windows is that
in between all the windows you
had this. Steel on the outside,
see in the steel on the outside
of the building. That's why,
when I first looked and you had
big, heavy I beams, when I first
looked at it, I couldn't believe
it, because there was a hole in
the steel. And this is steel
that was, you remember the width
of the windows of the World
Trade Center folks, I think you
know, if you were ever up there,
they were quite narrow. And in
between was this heavy steel. I
said, How could a plane, even a
plane, even a 767, or 747 or
whatever it might have been? How
could it possibly go through
this deal? I happen to think
that they had not only a plane,
but they had bombs that exploded
almost simultaneously, because I
just can't imagine anything
being able to go through that
wall. Most buildings are built
with the Steelers on the inside,
around the elevator shaft. This
one was built from the outside,
which is the strongest structure
you can have, and it was almost
just like a like a can of soup.
And
Adam Curry: for those Zoomers
who are dead, clip I forgot
about, for the Zoomers out there
who are investigating this,
maybe for the first time, the
whole thing was a giant scam.
There's a lot of different
things to look at this. It's the
main thing is the Patriot Act,
which was signed into law, I
think, two weeks after 911 which
is what you're living with
today, is still in play. Yes,
the entire security state that
is spying on you is because of
this event. And we have to give
props to two people on july 25
of 2001 so well before September
11, Alex Jones went on the way
on the air from Austin, Texas,
and had this report, tyranny
Unknown: is enveloping the
globe, and the United States is
a shining jewel the globalists
want to bring down and they will
use terrorism as the pretext to
get it done. We know the
government's planning terrorism.
We know Oklahoma City and World
Trade Center was terrorism. We
know the joint chiefs of staff
wanted to blow up airliners. If
you do it, we're going to blame
you, because we know who's up to
it. Or if you let some terrorist
group do it, like the World
Trade Center, we know who to
blame. If any Terrorism comes,
it's from this government, and
if there was an outside threat,
like a bin Laden, who was a
known CIA asset in the 80s
running the Mujahideen war, and
whose family builds all the
military bases over in Saudi
Arabia right now, and sits on
the board of Iridium satellite
and phony system.
Adam Curry: But we also have to
give props in this case to Bill
Cooper, who on his radio show a
month earlier, June, 28 who was
very inconveniently shot to
death by an undercover cop in
November. He went on his radio
show and reported about CNN
finding Bin Laden well before
911 but kind of just in time.
Can
Unknown: you believe what you
have been seeing on CNN today,
ladies and gentlemen, can you
believe it supposedly a CNN
reporter found Osama bin Laden,
took a television camera crew
with him, went into Osama bin
Laden hideout, interviewed him
and his top leadership, his top
lieutenants and colonels and
generals in their hideout. This
is a CNN reporter with a camera
crew, and he came out and told
everybody, within three weeks,
Osama bin Laden has been
attacked the United States and
Israel. Now, don't you think
that's kind of strange, folks,
you see because the largest
intelligence apparatus in the
world, with the biggest budget
in the history of the world, has
been looking for Osama bin Laden
for years and years and years,
and can't find him. You see, the
CIA created Osama bin Laden.
They recruited him, they trained
him. They found his leadership.
They brought them all together.
They showed him, them how to
fight the Soviet Union in
Afghanistan, and when that was
over, they still continued to
fund him and train him, and
they're now using him to help
bring about world government by
making him the big boogeyman,
because they can't use Saddam
Hussein anymore, because they
needed a new boogeyman, and
whatever is going to happen that
they're going to blame on Osama
bin Laden. Don't you even
believe it?
Adam Curry: Yeah, the early
podcasters, yes, yes. The early
podcasters. So your government
is no good people, and Kamala
Harris and all those people who
you think maybe is, Oh, she's so
funny with a coconut tree. She's
no good. She's part of that
system, part of and I can't
leave 911 alone without at least
playing part of this clip to
Unknown: the September attacks.
There were countless rumors
about strange coincidences
surrounding the events. One
report about a group of Middle
Eastern men spotted the morning
of. September 11, parked just
across the river from New York
City, has not gone away.
Investigation of their presence
has led to questions about
whether Israel was conducting
espionage on US soil. We're
joined now by ABC John Miller
with an exclusive report this
evening. That's
Adam Curry: right, Elizabeth,
this is a case that took the FBI
and the CIA more than two months
to sort out while five Israelis
waited in jail, the dancing
Israelis. It began when this
woman was watching the Twin
Towers burning from her
apartment in New Jersey. She
noticed three men on top of a
van posing for pictures with the
towers burning in the
background.
Unknown: And I could see that
they were, like, happy, you
know, they
they were,
they didn't look shocked to me.
You know, they didn't look
shocked. I thought it was very
strange. Do
Adam Curry: you remember the
dancing Israelis? Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. Well,
their first dancing Arabs, yeah.
But
Adam Curry: then they became
Israelis. They morphed into
dancing Israel a Mossad, by the
way. Mutter, we're not endorsing
Trump. We're just telling we
Yes, we have gone completely
agenda on no agenda. You cannot
have these horrible people of
the Democrat Party, the New
Democrat Party, running our
country anymore. That's right,
I'm gonna say it. It's not an
endorsement of Trump. That's a
what is the opposite of
endorsement?
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
a good opposite word would be.
Adam Curry: It's a denouncement
of Kamala Harris and the entire
system that is running our
country, which is not President.
Joe Biden, hey, I'm 60. You
know, it's like I got if I'm
lucky.
John C Dvorak: Oh, now you're
gonna start pulling the age
card. Yes, that's right.
Adam Curry: I'm doing a JCD
here, I don't have to watch the
Video Music Awards anymore. I
know what it is.
John C Dvorak: This is an
interesting point. The Video
Music Awards, the satanists,
yes, uh, you, you've been
watching him religiously, kind
of biting your lip, pissed off
that you were never invited
back.
Unknown: Oh yeah.
Remember,
John C Dvorak: this is everyone
knows this is true. And now, now
that you've turned 60, you've
decided to just eschew the whole
thing. I find that fascinating.
Screw.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my phone
by donation to know what you're
Imagine
all the people who could do with
us. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
Adam Curry: It's the Voldemort
Music Awards, the VMAs. It's no
good people stop watching that.
It's bad for your health. We're
going to thank the rest of the
people who supported us for
Episode 1694, $50 and above.
John. Take us through them. Yes,
John C Dvorak: I will starting
with Mr. Planner perfect and
Platz mouth, Platt at Platts,
I'm sure is pronounced plat
Plath, Platt Smith, yeah,
probably uh. Nebraska, 170 902,
and it says to us, thanks for
waking people up. Please call
out my sub son Gabe for being a
douchebag, and he also mentions
the turning frogs gay concept.
Well, we play this came up
today, and it's been repeated
over and over. Interesting,
Unknown: isn't it? Yeah, Leslie
John C Dvorak: Sheeran Beck, I
believe, in Ashbury s berry
Park, uh, New Jersey, 150 and
it's her husband's birthday. Oh,
and he loves you guys. What
about you? Yeah, please give him
a shout. You got he's on the
birthday list. Lauren's D, uh,
Lauren is the cloister koister,
let me see in Belgium at 150 and
he needs a he needs to deduce.
You've been deduced. We need
more Belgium. Listeners,
Unknown: loud and the coaster, I
think, Lawrence, Lawrence,
John C Dvorak: QQ, in Key West,
Florida, ah. Q, 35 he's,
Unknown: he's a true spook. QQ,
he's a real one.
John C Dvorak: Is he? Mm, hmm, I
met him. That makes sense with
the name like QQ, yeah,
Adam Curry: he knows what he's
doing. It's good to have him on
our team.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
thing. He's got 59 for you. 59
for me, uh, 17 for some for the
17th anniversary. Okay? Ahmed.
Ahmed, Ahmed min in, I'm sorry,
Greg hoy, let's start with him.
Greg, hoy, he's hoy. Hoy. He's
in Pacifica. 133 33 Ahmed min in
Calgary, Alberta, Canada. And he
needs some jobs karma. Put that
at the end for you. Came with
100 Travis Moore in Gibsonville,
North Carolina. 100 he needs
goat karma for a buffalo. Bills,
win over Miami. Go bills, yeah,
good, big, actually, good, good
one. Adriana Marshall, where
Adriana in Shrewsbury, UK, 100.
Kevin McLaughlin finally comes
in again, never misses a beat.
He has yet to miss a show for
dive up to five years. Dollars.
8008 nice the Archduke of Luna.
He's the lover of American
boobs. Kelly chorky in Plymouth,
Michigan. 7903 Ryan Tierney in
Steven City, Virginia, 6767 with
a happy birthday to not Jake.
Luke suderman in Calgary, el
another Calgarian, 60 been
listening to a long time. Never
donated. Give him a deduction.
Unknown: You've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: We have no
thoughts on our author, Nick
Bryant, no none. Sabrina Graham
in Moxie Washington as a great
Moxie. 5402 Michael Ragus,
Ragus, Ragusa, maybe in Tustin.
5277 William wild in Baltimore,
Maryland. 5272 David Ingram in
vara junction, Victoria,
Australia, used to be an artist
named Dustin, who is just a
unbelievable portraitist, and
she's kind of hung up on Marilyn
Monroe pictures. And I met her
some years ago, and I said, you
know, I got to get a hold of
you. And she says, just remember
that I'm Dustin from Tustin. Oh,
and that was the last I heard of
her. I can never find her sense.
If anybody knows Dustin from
Tustin.
Adam Curry: Let me know. John
wants to go on a date. Now. I
John C Dvorak: don't want to go
on a date. I want to get some
art Arno in Amstelveen.
Unknown: No, my and close to my
old hometown. Yeah, 51 bucks.
John C Dvorak: What's some
health karma for Sir Andre.
Andre Andre put that at the end.
Sir fatigue decoder, which is
all coders in Knoxville,
Tennessee, 51 bad idea supply.
Now we usually have their
location. I don't remember where
it is, but you can look them up
on the internet. They make some
terrific burning gear. Bad idea
supply. Mimi actually has some
of their stuff. William Spain in
Springdale or Arkansas, 50. And
these are all 50s, just naming
locations, starting with William
Spain and my Michelle petty in
Grand Forks. Steven schumac in
Xenia, Ohio. Tim Delvecchio in
Blandin, Pennsylvania. Mike moon
in Athens, Georgia. John spade
in Edmond, Oklahoma. Andrew
Grasso in Mineola, New York.
Ross rebich in Casper, Wyoming,
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills,
California. And last on our list
is Steven ng in Box Elder, South
Dakota. Want to thank these
people for making show 1694, the
reality that it is
Adam Curry: good showing today.
Thank you all for the sustaining
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Unknown: jobs,
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
jobs. Karma, no
Adam Curry: agenda donations.com
and remember, we have John step
of the day coming up and some
great end of show mixes. But
first, Leslie Sheeran beckwich,
their husband Warren, a very
happy one. He celebrated
yesterday. Ryan Tierney, happy
birthday to Sir Not Jake 13th.
Tomorrow, sir Petit coder turns
51 on the 14th. Duchess Kim
keeper of the nutty fluffers
turns 41 on September 22. Nathan
Rossier turns 33 and finally, on
our list, we say happy birthday
to Sir Luca. Happy birthday from
everybody here, the best podcast
in the universe.
And we thank once again, the
former Duke of Central Florida,
thanks to his massive
rubbilizer, plus $11 donation,
and he now becomes the Archduke
of Central Florida. That is a
very exclusive club, the
archdukes, by the way, John I
have the arc Duch Archduke and
Archduchess of Japan and the
surrounding seas, coming to
visit us in October here in the
hill country. Good. That sounds
like fun. Yeah, they're going to
come hang out. They're going to
stay at an Airbnb. We're going
to have some meals together.
Very excited to have them out
staying in Austin, there one
night in Austin, and then
they're coming out to
Fredericksburg. They want to
they said they're sick of
cities, and they want to come
out and hang out in the hill
country. Well, we'll wine and
dine them. Literally, we'll take
them to a winery. We'll take
them to
John C Dvorak: a restaurant, a
bunch of wineries. You can take
a trip with the wine country. We
Adam Curry: can do a whole wine
and wine. You know, the
John C Dvorak: thing that's
interesting also is there's more
distilleries, it seems to me, in
the wine. Wine Country than
there is winery.
Adam Curry: No, there's more
wineries, but there are
certainly a number of
distilleries. But the winery,
well, if you want to call it a
winery, I mean, when you see the
AJ Foyt winery, you know that
we've kind of hit peak winery.
They literally have one of AJ
foyts cars, like a helmet, and
they sell some Napa wine there
anyway. Douglas Ellis is
standing by and need a blade for
him, because he's about to
become a knight. Douglas, that's
a good one for you. Come on up
here, sir. Well, not yet,
Douglas Ellis, because you are
about to become a Sir Knight of
the node, right? Jenner,
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with it. Thank you. I went to
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that on Sunday, got a couple of
nice things in the PO box. And I
love it when I get one of those
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Yes, before we get to the tip of
the day and our end of show
mixes, we have a couple of
meetups to tell you about and
two reports, one from Keene New
Hampshire. Hello,
Unknown: Adam and John. This
is the keen meetup, the too many
eggs.com meetup, and we tried to
figure out who the Fed is.
There's much controversy.
Definitely not
me, Adam and John. This
is Sir Lorna beach enjoying this
meetup.
I'll pass it to my wife, who
will not speak. I
may be the spook
slave.
Adam Curry: And now we go to
Denver. This is the Nate is the
spook edition of their meetup,
Unknown: Denver, Colorado,
Lincoln's Roadhouse NFL kickoff
meetup. This
is Colin. No sign of the
Venezuelan gangs here tonight,
which is always good, but the
night is young. Hey. This is
Nate. First time meetup. Haven't
spotted the spook yet.
Spoil alert. He's the spook.
Serve soothsayer here, getting
ready to get my ass out of
Denver, because, oh my god.
And Josh desdem Shannon in the
morning, just checking in from
Northern Aurora. Hate to
call out the new guy, but Nate
is totally the spook. Cousin
Vito out all
Adam Curry: right. Cousin veto.
Thank you very much. Thank you
for that report, guys. This is
This is fun. These meetups are
fun. You can tell people are
laughing, having a good time,
watching some football, talking
about Venezuelan gangs in their
hoods. And you can join the
North Carolina triad meetup on
Saturday at the little brothers
brewing, formerly Kernersville
brewing. Oh, they changed the
name, but it still is in
Kernersville, North Carolina,
that's at two o'clock. Fear is
freedom meetup for 40s and foul
also at two o'clock, but that is
in Chattanooga, Tennessee, at
champies in East Ridge, the
Sonoma Wino country meet up.
This is the fifth edition,
2:33pm, old casbier In Rohnert
Park, California, the Treasure
Valley Boise meet up three
o'clock at the Heritage social
club in Garden City, Idaho. A
lot happened on this Saturday,
the Fort Wayne, two year
anniversary club, 33 meetup,
3:33pm, Eastern casa, grill and
bar. Fort Wayne, Indiana. And
then on Sunday, our next show
day, the seafood and sangria.
Now this is going to be at
Harry's seafood Bar and Grill,
but you have to RSVP. It starts
at two o'clock in St Augustine,
Florida. Many more meetups
coming up all the way through
December, even into the new
year. You need to attend one of
these if you want the connection
that always brings you
protection that is part of being
a member and an upstanding
citizen and human resource of
Gitmo nation, go to no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you, start one
yourself.
Unknown: The name you wanna be,
where
everybody feels the same. It's
like a party.
Adam Curry: So before we get to
John's Tip of the day, we like
to look at the end of show ISOs,
which is always a fun way to end
the show, because we. Don't
really edit the show. We just do
it on the fly. And I have three,
and you have one I see, yep,
okay, shall I play yours first?
John C Dvorak: No, play yours.
Okay,
Unknown: it's all AI,
okay, that's not bad. Yeah, no
one understands this material
better than you. Too. Long,
Adam Curry: deep, yeah, well,
that's uh, James Earl Jones, who
passed away,
John C Dvorak: so I understand
he's now dead. Yes,
Unknown: I find your lack of
faith disturbing. Yeah, no good.
John C Dvorak: The first one was
okay. Let me hear mine goes off
a different track. Oh, okay,
Unknown: here we go. Lies,
lies, lies, lies.
Adam Curry: It's an edited one.
John C Dvorak: Of course it is.
Unknown: It's all AI, wow. What
do you think?
John C Dvorak: I think all AI? I
like it actually that. Yeah,
let's go with all AI,
Adam Curry: all AI. It is. Now
it is time, ladies and
gentlemen, for the famous Tip of
the Day from John Green.
Unknown: Last for you, sometimes
Adam Curry: these tips of the
day are sometimes polarizing and
very controversial. They can be
polarizing. Well, we got a lot,
I got a lot of feedback about
your your bungee dog leash,
whoo, like, what? Oh, I got
people texting me. No, it's no
good. Never use a bungee leash.
John C Dvorak: I know you should
talk to Mimi about this. She
owns a kennel. Yes, I know who
has standing in this field.
Adam Curry: Well, so do some of
the people who emailed me,
John C Dvorak: unless they own a
kennel. I'm not listening to
him.
Adam Curry: It's okay. Hey, it's
okay. It's okay. And I got a
note from Jay telling me why the
the extender roller leash is no
good.
John C Dvorak: She wrote a whole
article, you lose a finger,
yeah, yeah. She wrote
Adam Curry: a whole article
about it, yeah. Oh, so it's not
bad for the dog. It's bad for
me, for my finger,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, not
good for the dog either. But
okay, but sometimes
Adam Curry: it's just
controversial. Doesn't mean
they're bad.
John C Dvorak: This is a simple
one. This is kind of not, not a
rerun of the old ones, because
it's brand new. It seems as if
Costco, and I'm going there
right after the show to see if
they have it here locally, but
it'll be everywhere eventually.
The new four pack of cheap
Bordeaux is now in Instagram.
It's in a little wooden box, and
it's a 2022, edition. And
there'll be four wines in there,
a couple of Bordeaux superiors
and a couple of Premier Cote de
Bordeaux wines, including a
Cadillac, which is an area in
entre de mer that makes a
terrific wine. For some reason,
this little area makes a great
wine. And the four bottles of
wine in in this in the in the
states that don't add excise tax
to their alcohols, which is most
states, is $29.95 or 99 cents,
wow, which is $7.50 a bottle for
better wine than anything
California produces.
Adam Curry: Okay, now, how can
we identify this packaging?
Because this is this. It's in
John C Dvorak: a small box. It's
like a wooden box showing four
bottles. It's like a It's done.
It's in a mini crate, very you
can't not identify because the
only they only do this, these
little crates is little, like a
little crate of four bottles at
Costco, and there's not, like a
bunch of competing ones. There's
usually only one. Wow.
Adam Curry: This is a big tip,
people. This is what we always
wave. This is really the premier
tip you've always given us is
the good cheap wines at Costco.
This is a very, very, very big
deal. Yeah, these
John C Dvorak: are very, you
know, when they first started
doing this about, I think maybe
10 years ago, and they did every
vintage, and they did different
kinds. They did gold medal
winners, and most of these ones
are 90 points or above. And
which is accurate, I didn't
think much about the idea, until
I started trying these wines,
and then, Holy mackerel, this is
a steal.
Adam Curry: And is there a limit
per customer? No,
John C Dvorak: just load up
Unknown: for your consideration
the tip of the day. Yes,
everybody,
Adam Curry: that is your tip of
the day. And it was a big one.
Excellent tip. John, thank you
very much. We've got end of show
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Y'all. I'm Adam curry, and
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Unknown: Tonight, the high
stakes showdown here in
Philadelphia between vice
president Kamala Harris and
former President Donald Trump.
I was so proud that she was
presidential. She showed her new
way forward, new and forward her
plan to take us forward, command
of the issues, eloquence in
talking about them again,
strategic in her thinking. I
thought she was just
spectacular, but her excellence
did get under the skin, and it
was so strange, because one of
the things I was so proud about
Kamala, the Vice President last
night, was that she prioritized
in her answers, any one of them
could be a program's discussion,
but she prioritized the
importance of whether it was a
woman's right to choose, whether
it's our national security,
whether it's issues that relate
to our economy and the rest she
prioritized, and that makes
sense so much more to come as we
go from here. So I thought she
looked presidential. I thought
he looks
silly when a fighter loses, he
is I want a rematch.
I want a rematch. They always
the losing person, the fighter,
the debater. They always ask for
a rematch. Who's President
right now? I
don't even know if Joe Biden
knows he's alive. I
finally, election season is
here. Have no fearical. For at
least four more years to
deconstruct the news and make it
Clear
you king that the media is
mostly insincere. Ah,
oh, finally, election season is
really the triple Kabbalah this
year. There is no state in this
country where it is legal to
kill a baby after it's gone,
execute
the baby. Well, I think this is
so rich people can't go out and
buy cereal or bacon or eggs or
anything else and
understand they're eating the
pets. This comes at a time run,
Spot Run where the people of our
country actually need a leader.
I have been a leader on
fertilization. He exchanged love
letters with Kim Jong. Un the
whole
place is going to get blown
up. Talk about extreme when
somebody does
a bad job, I fire them. Donald
Trump
was fired by 81 million people
because of the things that they
say about
strength is not in beating
people down, it's in lifting
people up. Now she wants to
do transgender operations on
illegal aliens that are in
prison, coming
from someone who has been
prosecuted.
I probably took a bullet to the
head, and it bounced back, and
it went to their benefit, and
an attempt to take us backward.
People go to leave my
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