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John C Dvorak: Don't let them
eat the cats.
Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, it's Sunday,
Adam Curry: September 15, 2024
this is your award winning
giveaway nation. Media
assassination, Episode 1695.
This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: watching world war
three and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas show
country here in FEMA Region.
Number six. Why? In the morning,
everybody? I'm Adam curry from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we are not eating
the dogs yet. I'm John C Dvorak.
It's
Adam Curry: crackpot and
buzzkill in the morning. Yeah.
Keyword, yet, yet. That's right.
Oh, man, I'm slow today. Bye.
No, we, we went out last night.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, night
before a show. Well,
Adam Curry: you want to hear
about it was, was kind of
interesting. It was the
Fredericksburg Tea Party, boots
and barbecue dinner. Yes, I
knew, I knew you'd want to hear
about it. Yeah, typically I
would, I wouldn't really go to
something of this. Certainly,
anything that's a party. But the
Tea Party in Fredericksburg is,
I mean, you know, it's not still
a tea party. It's an old school
tea party. It's not, you know,
like the Ron Paul Yeah, days of
tea party. So not really, it's
not really a political party,
but it's a reason for the good
old boys and girls to get
together.
Unknown: And did you wear boots?
Adam Curry: I did. Did Tina?
Tina wore, like, a cute skirt
and boots, and I discovered I
need a hat, because I was one of
the few without a hat. So of
course, the Fredericksburg Tea
Party, boots and barbecue was
held in beautiful downtown
Kerrville. There's no There's no
place that can facilitate there
were 350 people there. It was.
It was quite a, quite a get
together. Now, this is organized
by Matt long. Matt is a fixture
in in Fredericksburg. He's been
running the Tea Party for 15
years, and he's actually the guy
who's also organizing the no
agenda meetup on the 18th of
October at the full moon in bed
and breakfast. Plug, well, of
course, it's a plug. And I met
Jenny, Jenny McCombs,
John C Dvorak: who owns, oh,
Jenny, I've always wanted to
meet Jenny. She owns
Adam Curry: the full moon in bed
and breakfast, and she's very
excited to meet everybody. And
she says she's, she's a January
sixer, tried, convicted. I think
she even served time wise, yeah,
I think she served time in
prison.
John C Dvorak: She went to DC,
yeah, oh, yeah. This is
dedication. I like it. So I
Adam Curry: didn't get the chat
with her real long. So I'll get,
I'll get the full story when we
see her on the 18th. Anyway,
there were some speakers, which
was quite interesting, Rick
Green, who runs the Patriot
Academy, which is that's a place
here in right near
Fredericksburg, where you can go
and learn how the Constitution
works and how Congress works and
how you get a bill on the floor.
And they educate young people,
but probably they're just as
well known for their four day
personal self defense class.
John C Dvorak: So they're
basically doing what the high
schools should have been, yes,
for decades, exactly.
Adam Curry: It's like a highway,
yeah, then with the four day
pistol training, and it's great.
He gets up, he says, Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: he used to have
gun clubs, of course, high
school, of course.
Adam Curry: He gets up says, Hi
everybody. I'm Rick. He's real
animate. I'm Rick Green. So what
do we do right now, if right
through that door in the back,
the dirtbag comes in his gun. AR
15 starts shooting. How many are
you prepared? So you know, 30
hands go up, at least,
John C Dvorak: all holding guns.
They shoot them all in the air.
That's what would really be
Adam Curry: funny. No one
actually pulled their gun up.
And he said, but are you
prepared to get the job done
anyway? It was a good pitch.
Really good pitch. Then,
John C Dvorak: this is sounded
nuttier and nuttier by the
minute. It was one. No,
Adam Curry: this is great. Then,
Chip, Roy spoke our chip, Roy
was there. Yes, Chip, Roy was
there. And very dark. Chip Roy
very dark. This is it. This is
if we don't win this election,
we're all gonna die.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's the
pitch,
Adam Curry: yeah. And then he
gave his pitch for the Save Act,
which is the, was it like? I
think it's basically make sure
illegals don't vote in our
elections. Act, which is, which
was controversial, because it
kind of blew up, I think this
week, where, what's our what's
our? Guy that from Kentucky,
Massey, he said, Now, this is
all nonsense. They jam all this
stuff into
John C Dvorak: the Massey, yes,
I don't do we. There is a clip
going around. I never took it,
but Massey is the guy to do
this. He is the wet blanket in
the Republican, yeah. Party who
doesn't put up with anything,
and everybody rolls their eyes,
and they all love him.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's kind of
like a new Rand Paul. He's like,
No, I'm just not going to do
this nonsense. So, so chip,
right? You know, he's okay, but,
you know, I can't remember what
it was, but he, he, sometimes
he, he does stuff. I'm like,
Man, I don't know. Man, he's,
seems like a good old boy who
got, got a little bit too much
politician in him, but it was
nice he was there. That was
nice, but that was a lot
John C Dvorak: different than
my, uh, yesterday. Well, I'm
Adam Curry: not done yet. Oh no,
I haven't gone to the headliner.
Wow. Oh yeah, there's a
headliner. So after chip,
pardon, after chip Roy, the
trumped up Texan, came in, who
was a Trump impersonator, very
good, and he even took questions
from the audience and stayed in
character. I was well impressed
with that guy. But then the
headliner, the one, the only Mr.
Mike pillow himself, Mike
Lindell,
John C Dvorak: so you got to
meet me. You got to meet Mike.
Adam Curry: I did. I met Mike
and get a free pillow. He was
not handing it's not going too
well with my pillow.com. Why? Oh
well, they pretty much canceled
them out of every box store, and
they've the guy. They canceled
his accounts. They they his
American Express account, his
Merc credit card. Oh yeah, he
got completely deplatformed.
John C Dvorak: You didn't know
American Express canceled him.
Oh yeah, for what
Adam Curry: for? Uh, questioning
the elections.
John C Dvorak: What's that got
to do with mercantile acceptance
of a credit card, yeah, they he
got canceled. So American
Express is an activist
organization. Is
Adam Curry: that what you're
saying? I would say so and
chase. You know, all his bank
accounts got frozen. But the
worst part is, he couldn't
accept any credit cards, so he
had to,
John C Dvorak: yeah, that sucks.
Adam Curry: If you're selling
stuff, yes, it kind of does.
John C Dvorak: And that should
be illegal. Actually,
Adam Curry: of course it should
be. So a couple of observations,
shorter than I thought he was. I
thought he was a much taller
guy. For some reason he
John C Dvorak: looked to be
about five six to me, yeah,
that's about maybe five
Adam Curry: seven. Little bit
tall enough, but I thought he
was kind of like six foot plus,
you know, and severe. I mean,
severe. ADHD, this guy can't,
can't look in one direction for
more than three seconds. He's
all over the map. You think it's
Tourette's? No, it's just, it's
real. ADHD, no, not Tourette's.
But as he was speaking, I
figured out he has a superpower.
He was telling some of his
history, some of it's well
known, but at one point he was a
professional card counter in
Vegas. I could see that, yes,
and so this is why he got
involved in these voting
machines, because he could see
the deviations, and he, you
know, you know how people have
that insight. They can
John C Dvorak: look at a
spreadsheet. It's always beyond
me, but yes, I have talked about
this on the show, about how
people can see what. They can
see radio waves. They can
visualize radio waves. They can
visualize like good friend of
mine can visualize every, every
signal on a on a bus, like a
computer card bus. You can see
that you can look at these
signals, you can see Whoa,
that's not going to work, or, or
every so often that's going to
Oh, that's a conflict. That's
Adam Curry: that's a little
beyond what Mike Lindell can do.
Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
there are people out there with
weird, whoa,
Adam Curry: that counts for two.
That's a double weird that you I
didn't say two. I didn't say it
twice, no, but it was so long
and so pronounced, I think it's
no, no.
John C Dvorak: I only got
counted for one. One, okay, but
I'm just saying it's astonishing
to me that these skills exist so
he can and, oh, he went, just
one more thing. People who have
this skill, these, whatever they
are, the, you know, this natural
skills, they don't even know it.
You almost have to point it out
to him. Well, he knows it. And,
and, you know what, after they
get older, yeah, at some point
you go, Wow. I thought everyone
could do this. So
Adam Curry: he that's why he was
looking at the vote. Says, no,
no, this is and so that makes
sense. And he dove what he
spent, $40 million invest of his
Oh, he says, my life savings,
which I believe that sounds
about right. He spent. And you
just send money to people. Go
ahead. Go investigate that. Go
investigate that. And he had
example after example, of like,
Philadelphia, you know, there
were
John C Dvorak: 80, yes, I
remember during this, this
controversial era he was in,
because he was on a lot of us,
he was out there. Fox won't even
have him on anymore. No would
have him on. Oh, really. C span,
and he would go on there with
these different experts. So
they'd be discussing the details
of this. It was all including
some statistical analysis guys.
And this is not possible. They
would exactly, exactly. So
Adam Curry: he was giving all
these different examples in
Philadelphia, 80 people who had
voted were who were 115 years
old, just which seems, which
seems unlikely. He was
explaining how some people who
would would initially run as an
as a third party, independent in
some districts, and then we're
not even on the ballot, how they
got votes, which, of course, is
how you take votes from one and
have the other person win. So he
had, he actually says, he says
this. He says, really, it's a
godsend. He said that Trump
lost, or we'd never know how bad
the corruption really is, which
I thought was an interesting
statement. He reminded us how
years ago, Klobuchar and all
those, all those people were
complaining about the very same
machines when they lost.
Remember? Die bold. Die bold.
Yeah. And so his his whole pitch
was, obviously, let's go back to
paper ballots. And he said the
he said, The worst thing is when
people show up to vote and then
they say, No, you've already
voted. So his recommendation is,
everybody, you should get your
mail in ballot, but don't open
the envelope. Just keep it
sealed and then take that with
you when you go to vote on
voting day itself. And then if
someone says, oh, you voted
already, say, Nope, here I am,
and here's my sealed mail in
ballot. Oh, that's a good one
tip, right? It's a good tip. And
John C Dvorak: what else that's
assuming you don't want to just
mail in the ballot. No,
Adam Curry: no, you don't want
to do that. No, you want. He
says the most, yeah, he's he
says it's a mess. Basically, he
says it's a mess. These machines
are no good. They're they've
been falsified the world over.
Like, okay, yeah, there you go.
So a lot of oohs and ahs and
then, you know, he did kind of
say, like, but really what
matters is the electoral
college. And I think that that
that was a kind of passed over
people's heads, because they
don't really realize, you know,
we all like, yeah, every vote I
gotta count. Gotta get my vote
counted. But it doesn't matter,
because it's the Electoral
College who elects the
president, and each state, the
legislature determines how those
electors are nominated. So the
hope is that the Republican
Party has their ground game
together in the states where it
matters. Because, I mean, this
is how you can win the the
popular vote and lose the
election, is through our
electoral college. I don't think
people really understand how
that works.
John C Dvorak: Well, we try to
explain it on the show over and
over,
Adam Curry: yeah, why don't you
give it another stab. You're
pretty good at
John C Dvorak: it. I'm not that
good. Yes, you are. The
electoral college is the is a
slate of electors that choose
the president based on each of
the states having a certain
number of electoral votes that
they can give to the Electoral
College and and the idea is, is
to minimize the large states
hogging because they'll have
they're overloaded with, with
people hogging the popular vote.
So if it was just all popular
vote, 90% of the time, it would
be deterred. The President would
be determined by California and
New York, two or three other big
states, right? And little states
like Wyoming, South Dakota,
North Dakota, these places, we
just whatever they want. It
doesn't matter. The idea was, is
to balance it a little bit and
to prevent the corruption of
these large states which get
corrupted over time. As you can
tell, anyone who's been lives in
California and New York with
these big, giant states, they've
been taken. They usually have
been captured by one of the
parties, generally the
Democrats. They do the better
job of it. And so they would
just throw all their votes into
the Electoral College, or the
popular vote. And but the thing
is, the Electoral College votes
do not necessarily represent on
a one to one basis the popular
vote, right? So you can get so
by manipulating the Electoral
College and just making sure you
win certain states in the
upcoming election, that's where
they're called swing states, you
win those you can win the whole
election, whether you get the
popular vote or not. Now,
sometimes the popular vote does
go the way the winner goes,
which like Reagan did that, and
I think Bush did it once, and
generally speaking, to the
Democrats, when the popular
vote, because giant states,
Adam Curry: let's say so. In a
state like let's take
Pennsylvania, if the if there
are more votes for let's just
say Harris the Electoral College
can still give their vote. To
Trump, correct? They don't have
to. Actually depends on their
specific law, on their laws,
right?
John C Dvorak: Generally
speaking, no, they can't just do
that. But it turns out, in this
upcoming election, according to
everybody, Pennsylvania is the
key state. That's why they talk
about it so much, right? And
Trump can win without winning
Pennsylvania, according to these
guys, really. But yes, but
Harris can't.
Adam Curry: Well, Pennsylvania
was certainly helping her out.
If you saw the local
Philadelphia ABC station,
John C Dvorak: which, oh, the
one that did the, the the
interview with her,
Adam Curry: well, so they did,
and I don't know how this
happened, but they, they did an
interview. The raw interview was
published, which, yeah, even
with the even with the count,
no, even with the countdown of
the camera and everything. So,
yeah. And so I say
John C Dvorak: somebody took it
from the studio, yes. So I have
to, I have a I have the begin. I
have both these clips.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, I have
them too. Do you have? How long
are yours? Well, mine,
John C Dvorak: I tried to keep
them short, because the point
can be made easily without
having to play the whole thing.
I was pretty boring. Let's
Adam Curry: lose, let's use
yours then. Kamala, oh, gee,
which
John C Dvorak: when you went,
here's this. I have the two,
yeah,
Adam Curry: we'll play the OG
first. I
John C Dvorak: thought, yes, the
OG, the original quality, yeah,
Adam Curry: did you pan it? Or
do I have to pan it?
John C Dvorak: I did what I
could. Okay, all right, but it's
going to be a little lopsided,
not too bad. But this is a this
is the way that this is then.
This is the beginning. This is
the beginning of the interview
and how it started. Here we go
when
Unknown: we talk about bringing
down
prices and making life more
affordable for people. What are
one or two specific things you
have in mind for that?
Well, I'll
start with this. I grew up a
middle class kid. My mother
raised my sister and me. She
worked very hard. She was able
to finally save up enough money
to buy our first house when I
was a teenager. I grew up in a
community of hard working
people, you know, construction
workers and nurses and teachers
and I try to explain to some
people who may not have had the
same experience, you know, if,
but a lot of people will relate
to this, you know, I grew up in
a neighborhood of folks who were
very proud of their lawn, you
know. And and I was raised to
believe and to know that all
people deserve dignity. Now,
Adam Curry: just as a little
aside, with this clip, we can
confidently say that she was
very good at memorizing her
prosecutorial lines in the
debate I had to talk 10 people
off the ledge last night about
the earrings. Oh, sorry, Adam.
Adam, did you think that they
were the she doesn't need to be
prompted on that. What good
would that be? No, no, those
were just elitist, expensive
earrings. Oh, if
John C Dvorak: you're gonna use
that technology, you get an ear
wig,
Adam Curry: all different kinds
of ways to do it. Yeah, you
John C Dvorak: get it. There is
the, you know, this crazy
earring story. Anyway, so that's
the way she starts off, and it
goes on and on. And this goes on
and on with this 11, oh, you
need dignity. And then, if this,
she starts, then she starts
generalizing about one thing.
Here is the way they presented
the same, the same this. They
edited that whole part. They
just edited her. They took it
all out, and here's what you
got.
Adam Curry: And before I play
it, I want to explain the use of
naughties and edits, because you
can hear in this audio how they
because you watch the whole 11
minutes, what you're about to
hear was not all set in
succession. They edited this
together as well, and just
briefly. When you go sit down
and interview someone with a one
camera, you do the interview.
Usually you're the interviewer.
The cameras over your shoulder
on the subject, and then when
the subject is gone, because
they always have very little
time, then you you do the intro.
Then they're going to switch the
camera around. You do the intro,
and then you're going to do what
are called noddies, like
nodding. You're nodding. You're
nodding your head yes. You put
your hand on your chin. Oh,
interesting. And then that can
be interspersed so you don't see
the edits of this one camera
shot that you have of the
subject. So when you hear
there's some obvious edits in
here, in the answer itself,
besides losing that whole front
end, and they put a naughty in
when we talk about bringing down
prices and making life more
affordable for people, what are
one or two specific things you
have in mind for that?
Unknown: So when I talk about
building an opportunity economy,
it is very much with the mind of
invest. In the ambitions and
aspirations and the incredible
work ethic of the American
people. Oh,
Adam Curry: man, do you mind if
I play a little bit of the
longer edit? Did you hear all
the edits they put in that
thing?
John C Dvorak: You might as
well. But the point is, is that
the funny thing to me is that
even the edited version of
disaster still
Unknown: we talk about bringing
down prices and making life more
affordable for people, what are
one or two specific things you
have in mind? I'll ring the bell
on every edit.
When I talk about building an
opportunity economy, it is very
much with the mind of investing
in the ambitions and aspirations
and the incredible work ethic of
the American people and creating
opportunity for people, for
example, to start a small
business. So my opportunity
economy plan includes giving
startups a $50,000 tax deduction
to start their small business.
It used to be $5,000 nobody can
start a small business with
$5,000 opportunity economy
means, look, we don't have
enough housing in America. We
have a housing supply shortage.
And what that means, in
particular, for so many younger
Americans, the American Dream is
elusive. It's just actually not
attainable. To help people who
just want to get their foot in
the door, literally and so
giving first time home buyers a
$25,000 down payment assistance,
another plan that I have that is
a new approach, is to expand the
child tax credit to $6,000 for
young families for the first
year of their child's Life.
Adam Curry: It's better when you
see the video. But anyway, they
so, they really, they really did
a good job helping her.
John C Dvorak: Well, do you
think so? Because she's she
still didn't answer the
question, and her answer to, how
do you get gonna fight
inflation, which is what
question was, just by throwing
more money at it? Yes.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah. I mean,
what I'm saying is they helped
her by
John C Dvorak: they at least
sounded less like less, yeah,
less like an
Adam Curry: idiot, exactly. Now,
her vice presidential candidate,
on the other hand, really tried
to help her. But the truth kind
of came out, because this
started, and I love this story
as a young prosecutor. You
John C Dvorak: I have listened
to that thing a million times.
It sounds like she's he's saying
prosecutor,
Adam Curry: I think it's
prostitutor, because this Yes,
because it was suggested to you,
I know, but listen again,
because this started,
Unknown: and I love this story
as a young prosecutor. No,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: It's one of those
blue dress, silver dress things.
It's great. When someone says
prostitutor, then that's all you
can hear.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
especially if you suggest it so
you have an LP going on.
Adam Curry: That's the whole
idea. That's why it's so good.
Unknown: But yes,
John C Dvorak: I know I saw it
too. Very funny across the
tutor.
Adam Curry: And you know, do you
think that Hillary Clinton is
vying for a spot in the cabinet?
Should Kamala Harris be elected?
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
No, you
Adam Curry: don't think she
would lie.
John C Dvorak: What were you,
what did? What are you making?
Much making you think this way?
Adam Curry: Well, she, she,
she's out with her book, and
she's, she wants
John C Dvorak: to sell more
books, some money maker, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. But I was just
thinking maybe back to Secretary
of State against and she was
John C Dvorak: so no, it's never
gonna happen. Wow.
Adam Curry: You think she's
completely done?
Unknown: Yeah? Do
Adam Curry: you don't think she
Hill dogs got some fight left in
her?
John C Dvorak: No Hill dog, it
has no fight left in her. Would
you like to hear I don't think
she wants to deal with it,
because she can't. The only
reason she was Secretary of
State, because it was supposed
to be a stepping stone to be
president, and since she didn't
get that, and now she's got this
camel situation where she's
going to ruin it for all women
for the next 20 years. Yeah,
probably figures out. What's the
point?
Adam Curry: Here's a here's a
little bit of the promo, the
book tour. Morning Joe, former
Unknown: Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton, has a new book
coming up, and Morning Joe has
an exclusive first look at one
key part of it, the book
entitled something lost,
something gained, reflections on
life, love and liberty. Clinton
was reporting the audiobook When
news broke that President Biden
had dropped out of the race for
the White House. So
coincidental, she decided to
record her first reaction to
that monumental shift
presidential politics on july 21
2024 when Joe Biden announced he
was dropping out of the
presidential race and endorsing
Kamala Harris, the dream of
seeing a woman in the Oval
Office was suddenly back within
reach. It wouldn't be me, but it
could be Kamala. History
beckoned, but a whole lot of
bigotry, fear and
disinformation, not to mention
the Electoral College stood in
the way. Could we do it? Could
we find why
Adam Curry: would she say not to
mention the Electoral College
stood in the way? Why would she
even mention that?
John C Dvorak: Well, they're out
to get the Electoral College,
and with the help of the media.
I This is one of the aspect of
the Electoral College I didn't
mention, which is that it's it's
not good for business. Go for
Adam Curry: the invite for
business. You mean their
business. For the
John C Dvorak: business of
advertising. For example, if you
had a if everything was done by
the by the popular vote, then
you would then Trump would be
advertising in California, which
is a done deal. California is
sold. It's done. It's going to
go for the Democrat, whoever the
Democrat is. New York's going to
go for the Democrat, whoever the
Democrat is. But if it was, if
the Electoral College was gone,
now, the advertising has to be
more spread around, a little
more. In fact, you might even
need more advertising
Unknown: Ken, not to mention the
Electoral College stood in the
way. Could we do it? Could we
finally shatter that highest,
hardest glass ceiling and prove
that in America there is no
limit to what is possible. When
Bill and I heard the news, we
were pissed off that Biden was
withdrawing and endorsing
Kamala, we drafted a joint
statement saluting him and also
endorsing her. She is talented,
experienced and ready to be
president, so it was an easy
decision.
John C Dvorak: What was the best
thing?
Adam Curry: She said, easy
decision.
John C Dvorak: It wasn't easy,
or wasn't, no,
Adam Curry: was, I think she
would say, was, it was an easy
decision. I can play the last
bit again, experienced
Unknown: and ready to be
president. So it was an easy
decision. There's a little
Adam Curry: laugh in there.
That's why that's probably, it's
a laughter. It wasn't easy
decision.
Unknown: Laughter, experienced
and ready to be president, so it
was an easy decision.
John C Dvorak: Why would you
Yeah, there's a laughter, and
it's an easy decision to what
say I say to right away. It was
an easy decision for her to say,
I'm a Democrat and I'm endorsing
the Democrat presidential
candidate. Yeah, yes,
Adam Curry: I think that's it.
You want to hear more? I have
another minute? Yeah, sure,
yeah. Why not? Some
Unknown: people have asked how I
feel about the prospect of
another woman poised like a
robot.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's
Adam Curry: not a great read of
the book. She's not a good
reader. No, some people
Unknown: have asked how I feel
about the prospect of another
woman poised to achieve the
breakthrough. I didn't, if I'm
being honest, in the years after
2016 I also wondered how I would
feel if another woman ever took
the torch that I had carried so
far and ran on with it.
Adam Curry: She's a torch bearer
with some
Unknown: little voice deep down
inside. Whisper is that should
have been me. That should have
been me. Now I know the answer.
It should have been me. After I
got off the phone with the Vice
President, I looked at bill with
a huge smile and said, Are you
dead yet? This is exciting. I
felt promise. I felt
possibility. It was exhilarating
when I imagined Kamala standing
before the Capitol
John C Dvorak: on his second
this is such a long does anybody
believe this?
Adam Curry: Not for a second. It
was exhilarating, and I so happy
for her and Kamala. I was so
happy
Unknown: when I imagined Kamala
standing before the Capitol next
January, taking the oath of
office as our first woman
president, my heart leaps. Dick
Cheney's after hard years of
division, it will prove that our
best days are still ahead and
that we are making progress on
our long journey toward a more
perfect union, and it will make
such a difference in the lives
of hardworking people
everywhere. Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: about to get harder
for now, thinking
Unknown: about this momentous
she didn't
John C Dvorak: say to make a
positive difference, it'll
Adam Curry: make a difference.
She knows the truth. It's going
to be bad for
Unknown: now, thinking about
this momentous period, I find
myself turning back to where
this book began, as Joni
Mitchell sang all those years
ago, something's lost, but
something's gained. Hello,
John C Dvorak: Boomer. Joni
Mitchell one of her great
sayings of something's lost,
something's game. Wow, yes,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Boomer reference, if
I've ever heard. One for Joni
Mitchell, throwing a lot of more
sat and you still old, I'm
telling you. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Is that supposed
to appeal to Joni Mitchell is
Adam Curry: to the MSNBC crowd.
I'm sure they, I'm sure they
eaten it up. They love it.
Meanwhile, Trump had a very
interesting talk at the New
York, the Economic Club of New
York. Yeah, that
John C Dvorak: was a couple
weeks ago.
Adam Curry: I hadn't seen this.
Oh, you missed out as I pulled
the clip, because I like the
question about tariffs, which
is, you know, was one of the big
so called debate questions about
tariffs.
John C Dvorak: Well, and, you
know, I have a pre clip, a pre
clip, okay, before you play
that, all right, my list,
Adam Curry: let's hear that
list. It's paper. Uh,
John C Dvorak: this is this,
this. This was not discussed in
the mainstream media, and I just
think it's funny. I caught it
off NHK, play this clip, and
then you can talk about
terrorists. Biden did what TF
Unknown: the administration of
US President Joe Biden has
finalized a decision to raise
tariffs on Chinese electric
vehicles from 25 to 100%
starting on September 27 the
office of the US Trade
Representative announced the
move on Friday. Additionally,
tariffs on lithium ion EV
batteries will rise from 7.5 to
25% and on solar cells from 25
to 50% the office said the hikes
were made after reviewing public
comments, Biden announced plans
in May to increase tariffs on a
range of Chinese imports, citing
the need to protect us workers
from what he Calls China's
unfair trade practices. Well,
isn't that interesting?
Adam Curry: Isn't
John C Dvorak: that interesting?
And how come nobody's discussed
this? Because they made such a
fuss about Trump terrorists,
Trump, know, the
Adam Curry: Trump tax,
John C Dvorak: the Trump tax,
yeah. But meanwhile, Biden, not
only that, but the 100% on EVs
is exactly what Trump was doing,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, so why
wouldn't so they couldn't make
any noise about it, and they did
it anyway, like they really
care. They did it because they
actually care. No, I don't
believe that for a second. There
has to be some kind of you know,
if anything hurts,
John C Dvorak: the fact that
they did it at all, and the fact
that the mainstream media
refuses to discuss it says
enough, because they've got this
narrative they're stuck with.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: says enough.
John C Dvorak: Who knows, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Well, maybe to
ratchet up some tensions with
China, got to get that thing
going, after all, got to get
that China war going. So yeah.
So Trump's at the Economic Club
of New York, and he gets the
question about tariffs. And his
answer, I thought was
interesting, because it wasn't
just about tariffs. The
Unknown: problem with what we
have with sanctions. And I was a
user of sanctions, but I put
them on and take them off as
quickly as possible, because
ultimately it kills your dollar
and kills everything the dollar
represents. And we have to
continue to have that be the
world currency. I think it's
important. I think would be
losing a war if we lost, if we
lost the dollar as the world
currency. I think that would be
the equivalent of losing a war
that would make us a third world
country. And we can't let it
happen. So I use sanctions very
powerfully against countries
that deserve it, and then I take
them off. Because, look, you're
losing Iran. You're losing
Russia. China is out there
trying to get their currency to
be the dominant currency, as you
know better than anybody, all of
these things are happening.
You're losing so many countries,
because there's so much conflict
with all of these countries that
you're going to lose that, and
we can't lose that. So I want to
use sanctions as little as
possible. One of the things that
we have with tariffs is that
I'll say to them, you don't
honor the dollar as your world
currency. Is that? Right? You're
not going to do it. No, we're
not. I said that's okay. I'm
going to put tariffs all over
your product, and they're going
to say, Sir, we'd love to honor
the dollar as the world
currency. You know, tariffs, in
addition to monetary and the
money that will take in, which
will be bigger than you've ever
seen in this country before,
gives you tremendous political
power. Like that. As an example,
I stopped wars with the threat
of tariffs.
Adam Curry: So, you know, we
forget about that. But Russia, I
mean, it was kind of crazy that
they were kicked off the SWIFT
system. I mean that, and which,
by the way, Europe had more of a
hand in than we did. It's like,
what was the point of that? If,
if you don't want to screw the
dollar, which also, for Europe,
makes no. Um, no sense. That's
obvious to me, seeing as the
Euro Dollar is the thing.
John C Dvorak: Well, the
Europeans don't like us have and
the proper term is reserve
currency. Yes,
Adam Curry: not the world world
currency. It's Trump, the world
currency.
John C Dvorak: I know I've
never, I'm never going to be
convinced that the Europeans are
going to work and do anything in
our favor.
Adam Curry: Well, no, in fact,
it looks to me more and more
because, you know, this is, it's
not really well explained, this
long range missile stuff, but
there's, there's more than one
kind of long range missile, and
the one that the US talks about
is the atacms.
John C Dvorak: The atacms, well,
they have the atacms, yeah, but
that's
Adam Curry: not what's being
talked about. No, of course, not
so well. Actually, I have a
couple NPR clips just to bring
us up to speed on this long
range missiles issue with
Ukraine. Putin
Unknown: said this week, such an
approval of long range missiles
inside Russia will show NATO is
at war with Russia. Now, there's
no question the White House has
been worried about escalation
from the start of the war two
and a half years ago, and
there's always concern that
Russia could possibly use
nuclear weapons. We've heard
that repeatedly. Most analysts
say that's really highly
unlikely. It's
Adam Curry: unlikely, then don't
be worried about it. But Putin
Unknown: has often made threats
of escalation after pretty much
every weapon system sent to
Ukraine by the West, Patriot
missiles, F 16 tanks and so
forth. But critics say the Biden
administration has been too slow
in providing Ukraine with the
necessary tools, too incremental
and too concerned about
escalation. Now Scott what's
changed recently is in making
approval of long range missiles
more likely. Is the fact that
Iran has just agreed to send
hundreds of missiles to Russia,
and also they have trained
Russian military personnel in
Iran. British Foreign Secretary
David Lammy said that fact has
quote changed the debate.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's changed the
debate.
John C Dvorak: I have a very I
think Mitch. I don't know if
it's the same clip, but played
my Ukraine use of missiles clip
Unknown: from NPR. Ukraine is
continuing to push Washington to
allow Kyiv to use long range
weapons provided by Western
countries inside Russia.
John C Dvorak: Stop at the clip.
The reason I want to play this
is because this is the same
clip. It's not the same because
different person different Yeah,
but the model for this clip is
the same as that. I could have
gotten you 20 of these clips.
And it says the long range
missiles out of that war is
going to be with Iran, Russia at
war on, and it's all because of
Iran. Inside Iran, we pointed
out the last show, Iran has been
providing Russia with drones and
all these things we they're all
been identified. We discussed
them in the newsletter with
pictures. I mean, this is not
this Iran thing. They're trying
to shoehorn it in. Is bull crap,
yeah, but it makes
Adam Curry: so much sense
because they you can connect it
to the Middle East, and you've
got a Hootenanny countries
Unknown: inside Russia, British
Prime Minister Keir Starmer met
with President Biden at the
White House yesterday, but Biden
hasn't issued a decision yet. By
Adam Curry: the way, that guy
who was meeting with Starmer and
and and his Lloyd Austin, that
was daddy longlegs. You can tell
this a different hair in the
back that was a different guy.
He's he's still decrepit, but
not like the guy with the Trump
hat getting on the plane, that
was a whole different Biden
altogether, who is running stuff
here, and that daddy longlegs,
John C Dvorak: what the Donnelly
brothers, whoever those guys
from Blackrock are running?
Yeah, they're running
Unknown: everything. And pierce
Tom Bowman says new developments
make this a tougher call for the
President.
What's changed recently is in
making approval of long range
missiles more likely is the fact
that Iran has just agreed to
send hundreds of missiles to
Russia, and also they have
trained Russian military
personnel in Iran. British
Foreign Secretary David Lammy
said that fact has quote changed
the debate. Meanwhile,
Russian President Putin says if
those weapons are approved for
use inside his country, that
would mean NATO is at war with
Russia. So
Adam Curry: I have an analysis
of why Putin says NATO would
then be at war with Russia. This
comes from the CBC Andrew
rasulus, who we've played before
for more now
Unknown: we're joined by Andrew
Rasulullah. He is a fellow with
the Canadian Global Affairs
Institute. He's also a retired
official with the Canadian
Department of National Defense.
So let's just start with these,
with the threats being made by
Russian President Vladimir
Putin. Do you see them as
credible?
Yes, because we have to look at
the context here. What the what
Putin has said is that these
systems should the approval. Be
given. They require Western that
is American, British support to
fire them. They're not just like
tanks. You see that you can give
the Ukrainians a German tank or
an American tank, and the
Ukrainians run it. That's very
different from these missile
systems, which require continual
Western involvement through
targeting analysis, data and
firing mechanism, firing the
whole system. The Ukrainians
cannot do it on their own. They
could only do this with the
support that is hands on of the
Americans, the British or the
French. And so Putin is saying,
because of that, that
constitutes, in effect, a state
of war.
Adam Curry: Makes nothing but
sense. I mean, it's already
American mercenaries who are in
the field and advisors, but this
would be absolute proof that it
is NATO behind all of this.
Meanwhile, the NATO gang all got
together in Kyiv for the what do
you what are you hiring about?
John C Dvorak: I just realized I
missed getting some clips of
Stoltenberg. He just interviewed
by Amanpour, and I was gonna go
back. Oh, that would have been
good. Ah, you should have heard
this maniac. This guy's nuts.
When is
Adam Curry: the Dutch guy coming
in? When's Stoltenberg stepping
down, isn't
John C Dvorak: No. Stoltenberg
likes to go out. He was doing a
long interview with the banana
and poor I've got, I will try to
go back and just see if I can
find it. They she does so much
material, it's hard to get some
of herself. They had
Adam Curry: the Yalta European
strategy conference in Kyiv,
which apparently is just safe
enough to have everybody go over
there, hang out that it was big.
Everyone was there, hookers, the
whole deal, champagne, caviar,
couple of those shrimp deals we
like so much.
John C Dvorak: Ah, the shrimp
deals. Yeah, the shrimp pile,
the pile of shrimp on ice, pile
Adam Curry: of shrimp with
caviar on top. And Deutsch
Avella interviewed this guy. Oh,
what a card. This is Professor
Francis Fukuyama. And Fukuyama
is some long term strategist.
He's in all the think tanks,
Council and foreign relations,
all those things. So he's out
there advising, I guess, Blinken
and anybody but the president,
because the President doesn't
know what he's doing. So whoever
is making decisions is not our
President and this guy, this,
this is the general attitude of
the NATO, but I'd say, in this
case, American elites of using
these long range missiles. So
everyone
Unknown: is talking right now
about the long range missiles
that Ukraine is asking for. From
your perspective, how important
are these missiles really, and
could they be game changer in
the situation we are
experiencing right now between
Russia and Ukraine?
I think the long range missiles
are very important that will
allow Ukraine to put the whole
of Crimea within range where
Russian forces, that's one of
their major operating bases, and
it's very important to be able
to threaten Crimea. The other
basic problem is that Russia has
used its own territory as a
sanctuary. They can launch
aircraft missiles from Russia,
but there's no way that Ukraine
can fight back, and the only way
you're going to stop them from
doing that is by targeting
objectives in Russia itself. And
you can't do this if you don't
have those kinds of missiles.
So you would say that these
missiles would be a game changer
in the panorama. Well,
you know, there's no single
weapons system that is going to
completely change the course of
the war, but I think it will be
very, very
Adam Curry: helpful, very
helpful. So we have to bear in
mind that Ukraine has already
been divvied up amongst the
largest corporations in the
world, the Ukraine
reconstruction project. I mean,
everything the minerals that
Lindsey Graham keeps talking
about. It's already all been
divvied up. They've just got
this Zelensky guy sitting in the
middle. You know, try playing
his part. Because the whole
point is they want to own
everything in Ukraine.
Ukrainians be damned. And the
worst bread basket, and the
worst thing that can happen is
if Trump comes into office,
because then, you know, it was
like this one, mess it up.
Unknown: Do you think that if
the Western Allies wouldn't put
so many conditions and limits on
the support they're giving to
Ukraine, do you think that the
war could then be ended soon? I
think that that's the only way
that you're going to get any
kind of settlement that isn't a
Russian victory. Yes, I think
that it's very important.
Adam Curry: So interesting. He
says that's the only way we'll
get any kind of settlement that
isn't a Russian victory. He's
very important that there's a
settlement because we don't want
to torch Ukraine, because
there's good stuff there. That
we already own pre owned. We
already got the down payment pre
owned. It's all pre owned, so we
can't have him rubbing
everything. Yes,
Unknown: I think that it's very
limited. I wouldn't put very
many limits on them. I'm not
quite sure you know what people
are worried about at this point.
But yeah, I think that they
should take off these
constraints. One
last question, the upcoming
elections in the United States.
So the government here,
President zelenskyy, they're
saying they would work either
with Kamala Harris as a
president or with Donald Trump.
Do you think this would make a
big difference regarding where
the war goes. Who will be
president next in
the US? It's night, night and
day. I mean, Donald Trump is on
the Russian side. So he's going
to end the war by, you know,
basically allowing Putin to get
what he wants. So it's
But President Zelensky is saying
that he could work with him.
Well,
of course he has to say that,
you know, he can't alienate
Trump before he's even elected,
but I think that it's going to
be the disaster for Ukraine if
Trump is elected. No, it's going
Adam Curry: to be a disaster for
you. For you, we can't have
Russia keeping all the good
stuff that's ours. So so then,
for whatever reason, I think
it's kind of obvious the US is
like. And as we know from the
Ukraine Israel so called border
deal, or the Ukraine Israel
funding bill, we know that the
only person who can authorize
the use of the atacms, the US
long range missiles, is the
President, only the president at
his discretion. And now, at
first I was thinking, you know,
this could be kind of if they
could hype this up enough, this
could be a reason for Kamala to
pull a quick 25th amendment. He
can't make that decision. He's
too far gone. We can't have him.
And by the way, we can't have
him making that decision. But it
seems like the powers that be,
the corporations who are running
our government, have decided,
yeah, and yet, let's not do
that. Let the Germans do it. Oh,
sorry, this is Deutsche Bell
interviewing Boris Johnson
Unknown: for Germany for chance,
or do you think it's time for
the long range missiles coming
from Germany?
I think that Olaf has done
extraordinary things already.
Olaf Scholz, but I do think that
the Taurus needs to be deployed
here.
Adam Curry: I do think the
Taurus needs to be deployed. The
Taurus missile. That is a joint
German French outfit that we I
don't think we have anything to
do with them, the Taurus
missiles. So, oh, US won't do
it. Let the Germans kick off
world war three. Olaf, should go
all come on. Olaf, you can do a
mail, you pussy man, come on.
Come on, Olaf. Send them all
down three things
Unknown: already. But I do think
that the towers needs to be
deployed, and I hope very much
that the German government will
do that. And but I also, you
know, I think we all need to do
more, and that includes the
United Kingdom, United States,
France. We all, and we all need
to do more together, and I'm
sure we will.
How important are the US
elections for this war?
Trump, as I said just now, I
hope very much that America will
continue with the policy of
supporting Ukraine. Whoever is
the whoever is the President
John C Dvorak: this okay, by the
way, just as clarification, yes,
the Taurus is a German, Swedish.
Oh, Swedish. I'm sorry. Sarah
launched cruise missile.
Adam Curry: Yes, Swedish. I
thought the French had a role in
it too. I guess that's it, all
right, so, but it's the Germans.
They're egging on the Germans.
Now,
John C Dvorak: the Germans are
suckers for this sort of thing.
You
Adam Curry: think they've done
it a couple of times. They're
going to start, yeah,
John C Dvorak: they were totally
suckered in World War One, and
then they brought them brought
it on themselves in World War
Two. Yeah, they have this
tendency to fall into this.
Adam Curry: But, you know, I
look at all this, this has
nothing to do. Well, first of
all, you can walk down any
street in Europe, any street in
America, and say, Hey, do you
hate Russians and people like,
no, do you know any Russians?
Yeah, I know some Russians. Are
they horrible, evil people? No,
you can walk down Moscow. Do you
hate Americans? No, this is,
this is corporate. This is the
College of corporations that
runs the system. It really is,
and it all fits together. People
always say, Who's they? This is
they? They are running this
show. And it's just agendas that
fit together because you get the
corporations that build this
stuff, the corporations who are
going to own Ukraine. These
corporations send money to
politicians for. Election funds
that, and they get tons of money
into the into the lobbyists, all
this plays back into Wall
Street. It plays back into the
banks. It's only about dollars,
petrodollars, eurodollars,
euros, pounds. Used to be Juan
and the rubles, this. It's all a
business. And in a way, that's
that's kind of why Trump is so
hated, because he is not a dummy
for the system, the way Harris
is perfect. She's a dummy. She's
dummy. She's a multi culty
candidate. She's got all the
things you need. I mean, even
the Republican and Democrat
Party, the whole idea is to give
us the illusion that we're
voting for the lesser of two
evils, and it's always some
dummy. Yeah, it seems like the
final goal is one big holding
company that all these
douchebags own a share of.
That'll be That's your new world
order, right there.
John C Dvorak: So one of the
things Stoltenberg said, he went
on and on about how great this
war is, and how why it has to
continue. He says, because our
end goal. He said this, our end
goal is to make sure that
Ukraine is is a member of NATO,
yeah, and we want to expedite
that, and that's the only reason
this war is going on. Yeah.
Russia does not want them to be
a member of NATO. They wanted,
they want this just a neutral
state there, and we want them to
be a member of NATO. All you
have to do is change that one
variable to, okay, we're not
going to be a member of NATO,
and the war is over. They can't
bring themselves to it. And what
grossed me out was, NHK had a
one half hour, or even an hour,
I couldn't watch more than 10
minutes of it because it was
making me sick of cell phone
videos of the war in Ukraine
taken by the Ukrainian soldiers.
Adam Curry: Oh, you see that
stuff? It's bad. Oh,
John C Dvorak: they have some
guy jumping and they point out
some of the details as they as
they show these cell phone
videos. Russia has the the
entire line there, where the
between the Donbas and Ukraine,
yeah, just millions of land
mines and all kinds of pits and
holes and and and the
Ukrainians. Meanwhile, if you
see some of these videos,
they're in deep, you know, it's
eight foot deep trenches. It
looks like World War one style
fighting. It's a it's horrible,
and especially with would got me
finally with some guy jumping
off of a tank to get to one of
his buddies. And just as he
jumped off, he landed right on
can they had it, filmed it. This
was, this is a mess.
Adam Curry: I've been seeing
this, you know, for the past two
years on these telegram
channels. And you see all these
tanks get taken out all the
time. It's like a joke,
John C Dvorak: yeah, well, me
imagine that all what you've
been watching over time is just
compressed into a two a one hour
special. Oh, God, in a NHK, Oh,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Should get a link to
that so people can watch it.
It's
John C Dvorak: not like, I think
sadistic to watch it,
Adam Curry: so just spitball in
here. But if, if they send the
Taurus missiles in, I don't
think you're going to get your
flattened Eiffel Tower. They're
going to blow something back up
in Germany.
John C Dvorak: Well, maybe that
was the plan all along when they
decided to shut down all the
power plants, because you guys
start blowing stuff up in
Germany. You don't want all
those things flying all over the
place. And
Adam Curry: one of octave, one
of our producers in Germany sent
me a note. I don't have it here,
but I can summarize it. He says,
It's so amazing how the psyop
worked on the German people. And
they also, oh, no, Energiewende,
oh, we all have to go to solar
and wind. They had the most
advanced nuclear plants. They
were so hardened that they even
did a demonstration by flying an
airplane into one of these
nuclear plants, just to show
that nothing would happen. They
crashed an airplane into the
into one of those, yeah, they
were advanced. They were modern,
and they just convinced the
German public that was okay to
shut them down.
John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah. Well,
the German public is seems
susceptible to these sorts of
programs more than any other
people. Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: they have guilds. I
John C Dvorak: mean, I mean, I
think the Americans are pretty
dumb too,
Adam Curry: but we're up there.
We're up there, but this is,
I've not been worth and I, you
know, I also don't think nuclear
war is something that is likely
to happen, but a full on war in
Europe, yeah, this seems quite
possible, or at least expanded
to Germany. This is so this is
so insane, these people must be
stopped. I.
John C Dvorak: Not that it must
be that Trump should win. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You know, the
question is, can trump play
enough of the cards with the
corporations to get in? Are
there enough? Is there enough
agenda?
John C Dvorak: He gave that
speech in front of
Adam Curry: the Financial Group
in New York. That's what I'm
hoping, because otherwise,
trying to convince
John C Dvorak: them that, and I
think, is his trump card, trump
card, so to speak, which is what
he is a trump card, was this
idea of losing reserve currency
status for the US dollar, that
would, that would ruin most
international corporations. They
need that, and for a lot of
different reasons, including the
fact that we can deficit finance
and not really worry about it
too much. Yeah,
Adam Curry: which they benefit
from? Everybody benefits from
that. I hope so, because, you
know, look, they tried to kill
him already, because that's
forgot about that is that ever
talked about anymore? Nah, I saw
this. I saw Jamie Raskin in the
hall with audio. Was too crappy
in the hallways of Congress
saying, Oh, we have a report
coming out. It will be shocking
to the American people about the
assassination. I'm like, oh,
okay, sure, unless it shows you
with your hand on the trigger.
And I don't believe it, not for
a second, not for a second, by
the way, breaking, breaking,
breaking ABC. Whistleblower says
Kamala got questions ahead of
time. Did you see that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. The funny
thing about that particular
report is the source, it's
bullshit,
Adam Curry: because this
morning, breaking, breaking,
ABC, whistleblower has been
killed in bizarre car crash,
Unknown: puh Lee's.
Adam Curry: It was nothing. It
was nothing. It was completely
nothing. There what you so
whistleblower and he signed an
affidavit, which was notarized
one day before the debate. It's
meaningless. And by the way,
you're not a whistleblower. If
you're anonymous, that is not a
whistleblower, that's an
anonymous source. Yeah, yeah,
we've gone crazy. These, this,
social media is not good either.
Okay, let's let me lighten it up
for a second. Just lighten it up
for one moment. Little, little
light to light, light stuff.
This morning, this took place
200
Unknown: we're bracing copy, 200
embrace,
bracing for splashdown. That
will be the final call we hear
from Jared until contact with
the ocean surface standing by
for a splashdown of the
polaristan crew
Adam Curry: Standing by. Here we
go,
Unknown: and there you can
see, as you can see on your
screen and by the cheers behind
us, the Polaris Dawn crew has
successfully splashed down.
Welcome back to planet earth.
Polaris Dawn,
Adam Curry: well done. Okay,
couple things about this. One
disappointing that we're still
landing in the ocean with
parachutes. What? How about we
do with that on landing? You
know, like on Earth,
John C Dvorak: disappointed
starship thing from Boeing
landed in the desert
Adam Curry: looked like a pretty
harsh landing to me. Second,
what was the big headline of
this SpaceX, Polaris Dawn
mission,
John C Dvorak: what was the big
headline that they walked in
space? They
Adam Curry: didn't walk in
space. The guy sticks his head
out the hatch, he's got one arm
like it's in a cast, and then he
goes back down. And they call
that a spacewalk. Yeah, it was
not a spacewalk. And in fact, I
learned quite a bit from France
24 I think, or maybe it was
Deutsche Vella, who brought in a
NASA Space nerd to talk about
it. And it was actually that
learned a lot about what's
happening and what this was
about.
Unknown: A new era in private
space flight has begun for the
first time ever to private
astronauts.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it is 20.
No, no, I'm sorry,
Unknown: no, have completed a
space walk which saw them leave
their Dragon capsule protected
only by their space suit. Space
X's new space suit has been
years in development. I guess
this was the catwalk we saw
today? Well, let's pull in Keith
cowring down. He's editor of
nasawatch.com Keith, good to see
you again. So NASA calling this
a giant forward.
John C Dvorak: I want to stop it
for a second. Yeah, I saw this
too. I thought that this was
kind of a non story, because it
was like, there's some point
behind it. I never could figure
out you're gonna have to try to
explain why you think this, what
they're getting at here. Okay,
now go back to play it more.
Adam Curry: Well, what I Okay,
well, you know, play continues.
Unknown: Or I want to say the
the commercial space industry is
that what it
is, yeah, you know. And there's
something about this that, in
some ways, this has been done
before, back in the day, when I
was a little kid, this is how
the first Soviet and American
astronauts went out. They just
kind of did a little thing. They
came back in. Then NASA
developed and Russia developed
spacesuits that have backpack.
My little thing here they have a
backpack that has all their life
support. But today, and of
course, these spaces, by the
way, NASA has been using them
for 40 years. They're trying to
make new ones, but it's taken
them decades, and they still
haven't done it. Well, SpaceX
took some of Mr. Isaac his
money, and went and developed
these new suits. And they're
kind of like brand new sexy
things that are 21st century,
but at the same time, they have
a tether, so they don't need the
backpack. They get all their
oxygen from this. So it's
something old, something new,
something tried, something true.
It's new and old and new and
old.
Adam Curry: No, it's new and old
and bull crap. What they're
doing here is replaying 40 or 50
years ago, which, again, for me,
is all questionable, since
there's nothing, there's only
one difference between the
spacesuits that are as old as I
am, and these are the ones that
are tethered. It doesn't even
have the fancy backpack, which
means you can actually walk in
space.
John C Dvorak: And the funny
thing is, during this
presentation, the guy had little
action figurines that he was
using to show off.
Adam Curry: I know I actually
cut that one part out. I'm like,
Shut up with your action
figurines. Do hilarious. You're
making my you're you're
weakening my argument. So, so he
it's not a spacewalk. The guy
comes out, not even to his
waist. He's tethered, so the
oxygen is coming through an
umbilical cord. So they looked
cooler. Maybe so was that it No,
no. It's really about something
that is an old trope for Adam.
This
Unknown: crew went three times
higher than the International
Space Station. Was that risky? I
mean, what are the risks of
going so far? It's
risky in that not for the
spacecraft. It can do this
easily, but you go into one
region near the Van Allen belts,
where you get a radiation dose
that's somewhat like three times
larger than you'd get if you
were in the space station for
six months, but you only dwell
or stay there for short period
of time. That said, Any
spacewalk is dangerous, and the
further way you are, the further
way you are. But these folks had
it all in hand and figured out,
and they did their thing. And
maybe next time they'll float
around and do something more
spectacular.
Adam Curry: They're trying to
shield the astronauts from the
Van Allen belts for when we
actually try to go back to the
moon again, which, as you know,
I don't believe we've ever been
to. This guy is just confirming
my my suspicions.
John C Dvorak: Oh no, no, if you
confirm your suspicions that,
well, will
Adam Curry: you no one can
determine my suspicions being
confirmed, but me,
John C Dvorak: by the way, I
I've been in one of the old
fashioned spacesuit you've
Adam Curry: been in one. Yeah,
that's pretty cool. Points.
There you got me on that one.
That's
John C Dvorak: because we were
doing a promotion at uh, Tech
TV, and we had to get into suit,
Unknown: ah, that,
John C Dvorak: if you I don't
have claustrophobia, but, but I
would, I would have it. It's
unbelievably. It's horrible.
What
Adam Curry: have you not done? I
mean, a lot. Have you been to
the
John C Dvorak: sky dived?
Adam Curry: Have you have not?
No, no. Can I make a
recommendation? What? Never jump
out of a perfectly good
aircraft? Dumb idea.
John C Dvorak: That's an old
joke. Yes. Okay, very funny.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you.
It's just not a good idea, then
you're gonna ask me, if I did
what? Oh, if you went to the
Titanic, did you go into
submersible to the Titanic? That
would be something. There's
John C Dvorak: plenty I didn't,
haven't done it. That would be,
that would be one of the top of
the list of things I don't want
to do. Not gonna do that.
Adam Curry: But it's just, you
know, like, go to the go to the
moon already? Someone go to the
moon with people. Show me. Show
me.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can.
It's just what they're working
on. No,
Adam Curry: yeah, for the first
time, exactly, for the first
time. So maybe that's what
they're doing with those
astronauts, the ones who went up
on the on the Boeing Starliner.
Maybe they're just checking for
radiation. If we keep them up
there longer than they thought,
will they die? Will they get
fried? How long can they stand
with radiation?
John C Dvorak: There's been
people up there for a couple
years. One of the things that
turns out is it almost
completely ruins your kidneys,
really. Yeah, there's a bunch of
research. Just showing that
having kidney problems because
weightlessness, I guess she's
not good for the kidneys. I
don't know why. Well, kidneys
Adam Curry: is not the only
problem Boeing has. Passing
drivers leaned into their
Unknown: horns to show some love
for the Boeing. Workers on the
picket line, let's go. Workers
say the deal that Boeing offered
doesn't cut it. They need to
fight for their family and stand
up for the future employees to
come. My son is in
kindergarten right now. My
daughter's hanging out with me
today during the strike. I feel
like this is a very historic
part of my life.
There's a real sense of unity
among these workers as they
stage this high visibility
protest following a contract
vote that more than 90% of union
members shot down. They say they
deserve a living wage, and we're
standing together against
corporate greed, but most
importantly, for a living wage,
Boeing workers are demonstrating
at job sites across the region,
waving signs and showing their
determination to hold out. Hold
on. What's that?
John C Dvorak: Are you telling
me that the Boeing workers are
striking for a living wage. What
are they paying them?
Adam Curry: This is not true. I
was going to play the whole
report to tell you that, but
they are it's not about the
living wage. They are sickened
from one of our producers. They
are sick and tired of being
spied on, being harassed. You
know, ever since all these
problems came about, now the
crackdown is so harsh that
they're being everyone's being
watched every second of the day.
They hate it. It's become an
unworkable environment, which
makes sense, really? Yeah, so if
you don't want to do the job,
just raise the price. It's one
of my business rules. And then
if they give you the price, all
right, well, it's a crap job,
but they're paying me really
good the region waving signs and
showing their determination to
hold out for a better contract.
I
Unknown: myself I'm not
scheduled to be out here till
next week that I thought I'm
gonna come out here and do some
overtime of for the Union. Well,
I'm
really proud of our membership
for voting the way they did. It
was a big sign to the company
that we are going to stick
together on this
as long as the strike lasts, it
will deprive Boeing of much
needed cash that it gets from
delivering new planes to
airlines. The company's chief
financial officer broke it down.
Any
impact is going to be dictated
by the duration of the work
stoppage. No strike will impact
production and deliveries and
operations and will jeopardize
our recovery. Late today, we
Adam Curry: learned that a new
round of contract talks
involving the union the company,
as well as a federal mediator
that is set to begin sometime
early next week. I can't help
thinking that this is all a part
of destroying Boeing, destroying
it completely. Maybe the Chinese
planes will have to come in.
John C Dvorak: Therefore,
Chinese are building a clone of
the 737, flying.
Adam Curry: There's there's
airlines. They're already using
it, you know, I don't think, but
the problem
John C Dvorak: is, if they
destroy Boeing, where are they
going to steal their designs
from?
Adam Curry: Well, the 737, is a
fine design we can keep you. I
John C Dvorak: mean, there's
newer designs coming out, and,
you know,
Adam Curry: they have them
already.
John C Dvorak: They got those.
Well, they have, yeah, but then
there's going to be stalled,
because they don't seem to dream
it up their own
Adam Curry: stuff. You know,
everyone's switching to Airbus
too. There's a lot of that going
on. You know, the only problem
Airbus has is, uh, slow down
because of interiors. The
interior guys can't keep up with
all the different
configurations.
John C Dvorak: But it's less SK,
use as the always,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, the full
retail
John C Dvorak: approach,
unfortunately, too many skews,
yeah,
Adam Curry: oh, standardized. It
just feels to me like Boeing has
got to go. They just wrong. They
just want to screw Boeing. And
you know, when does Elon
announce his new airplane
company? They're electric. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you know, one
thing we do, I don't. I have any
clips, and I didn't come up in
the conversation so far. And I
just want to mention because it
was mentioned in that Boeing
clip Trump coming out out of the
blue and saying no income tax on
overtime. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Where was that
during the debate,
John C Dvorak: that he could
have brought it out during the
debate. He had to have that in
his back. But, you know,
Adam Curry: I don't know if
that'll work as well as
intended, because typically,
companies will give you what
time and a half for overtime,
yeah, so wouldn't they just say,
well, there's no taxes, so
there's no time and a half. It's
just times one for overtime. Or
is there some log about
overtime? Do you have to do time
and a half? No,
John C Dvorak: there are laws.
And I know in California we have
laws that if you work overtime,
you have to have time and a half
at least. How about just no
income tax, double time? There's
double time. Here's here's
Adam Curry: a tip for President
Trump. How about just no income
tax? I. Just like no income tax,
Unknown: which is printed, I
Adam Curry: got it all figured
out, people, he's got some
problems, though he's got some
problems. This is the latest
talking point about Trump.
Earlier in
Unknown: the day, the former
commander chief held a news
conference at his golf resort in
California. It's there. He faced
questions on a woman who has
been traveling with him named
Laura Loomer, a far right
activist and a 911 conspiracy
theorist who has posted racist
language about Harris with some
of Trump's allies now asking him
to distance himself from her.
Laura is a supporter. I don't
control Laura. Laura has to say
what she wants. He's a she's a
free spirit.
Adam Curry: What is he doing?
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, where did this report come
from?
Adam Curry: That was, I think
that's local California.
John C Dvorak: I have, what was
the racist language?
Adam Curry: Oh, I have that
from, from joy Reid. If she if
we offer all things race, we go
to joy Reid on MSNBC,
Unknown: Donald John Trump. Just
look at the people he's
surrounding himself with, people
like Laura Loomer. Now you'd be
forgiven if you have no idea who
that is. She's mostly known for
Hawking right wing conspiracies
and bigotry on the fringiest
corners of the internet. She's
described herself as pro white
nationalism and a proud
Islamophobe, has called Islam a
cancer on humanity. In 2018 she
handcuffed herself to Twitter's
office building after being
banned from the social media
site wearing a yellow star of
David and comparing her Twitter
ban to the Holocaust after the
passing of Congresswoman Sheila
Jackson Lee in July, Loomer
called her a quote, ghetto b
word, and suggested she was
going to hell. And just the
other day, she posted that if
Kamala Harris wins the election,
the white house will smell like
curry and speeches will be
facilitated by a call center
racist much. It was a statement
so beyond the pale that even
Marjorie Taylor green called it
racist,
Adam Curry: yeah, because it'll
smell like curry.
John C Dvorak: That's how is
that racist? It's everything's
right. Go to an Indian
restaurant, it smells like
curry. Being a racist, yes, you
are. When I go there and say,
Hey, this smells great. It's
great. Smells great, terrific.
By the way, people should note
that racist the call center line
was actually pretty funny.
Adam Curry: I agree with that,
John C Dvorak: but what rumors
and numerous kind of a
screwball? There's no doubt
about it. I don't think it's any
question about it. And she goes
go to not part of his campaign,
but she's just hanging around.
She's
Adam Curry: on the plane,
John C Dvorak: yeah, but people
get on the Okay, well, she's on
the plane. What are they gonna
do? Tell her. Did she get how
did she get permission to get on
the plane? Is that been
explored? Trump?
Adam Curry: He says, Yeah, let
her on the plane. He's defending
a universe for a fact. No, of
course, I don't know it for 100%
fact, but it's his plane. You
know, you can't. Gotta
John C Dvorak: have a handler
that handles the who's who gets
on the plane is, I don't think
Trump's going over the the lawn,
the list of people
Adam Curry: he defended her,
John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, he
Yeah, of course, that's what he
does. And and
Adam Curry: if you walk in the
supermarket, look at the rags,
the tabloids. Oh, he's having
sex with her.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, he's having
Adam Curry: sex with her. Yeah,
there you go. It's not good. He
should eliminate her from his
life immediately.
John C Dvorak: Well, if she was
smart, she'd eliminate herself.
She should. She know she's doing
the campaign. She's hurting
things
Adam Curry: now she she's a
narcissist, yeah? Probably,
probably,
John C Dvorak: if you're
memorized,
Adam Curry: yeah, exactly by
definition. Let me see, there
was some other funny stuff.
John C Dvorak: Well, I got a
funny clip this from tick tock,
which is a little different
topic. It's about gender
ideology. Well, I
Adam Curry: wanted to stay with
Trump. Okay, you gonna switch
away? Oh, you gotta I got Trump,
yeah, just I wanted this for
this funny, I can take you and
John C Dvorak: we're gonna say,
I wait. I got two Trump clips. I
want to get out of the way. All
right. Now this one PBS, because
we still have this background to
thinking that Trump is the guy
they want in
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. To deal
with the war in Germany, the war
between the German Russ jermo,
jerma Russo war. How are we
going to call it Russo Russo
German, German Russo war.
John C Dvorak: I thought these
are two clips, one on Trump and
followed up by a clip on Harris
from PBS his trmp up. I thought
this was a gratuitous clip that
was just semi complimentary from
PBS NewsHour.
Unknown: Ongoing foreign wars
played a part in. US
presidential campaign with
former President Donald Trump
making this pledge to voters
during a campaign stop last
night in Las Vegas, I
will end the chaos in the Middle
East, and I will settle the war
in Ukraine, as I will settle
that as President Elect. Would
anybody like to be in war with
Russia if necessary? We would
when that, you know, but
preferably not,
Adam Curry: no, no, preferably
not.
John C Dvorak: So that was, like
unusual, I thought, because it
wasn't slamming Trump for one
thing or another, was kind of
like, okay, and then they played
the little thing on Harris to
balance it, and you get this
vice
Unknown: president Kamala Harris
in her first solo TV interview
since becoming a Democratic
nominee, said she offers a new
generation of leadership with a
different purpose than her
opponent.
Most Americans want a leader who
brings us together as Americans,
and not someone who professes to
be a leader who is trying to
have us point our fingers at
each other.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's her
main talking point right now,
we're so tired of it, which is
actually not bad from a
persuasion standpoint. We're so
tired of being divisive. We're
so tired of being so there are
the divisive lines. Well, hello,
what you said, being yourself.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I
Unknown: was not a Taylor Swift
Fan. It was just a question of
time. You'll probably, probably
pay a price for it at the in the
marketplace. What
makes you think that the way you
think should influence other
people? You sing for a living?
Just deal with that.
Su Taylor Swift,
well, look we, we admire Taylor
Swift's music, but I don't think
most Americans, whether they
like her music
Adam Curry: or this is a little,
it's a little Melange, a little
this is obviously coming back to
Joy,
John C Dvorak: really, this, I
understand, yeah, but who does
I'd like to know who likes
Taylor Swift's music. Can you
even hum one of her songs?
Adam Curry: And the haters gonna
hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
That's the one. That's the only
one that
Unknown: the way you think
should influence other people
use, by the way,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, we have
someone who can sing every
single Taylor Swift song,
John C Dvorak: and that person
is Darren O'Neill.
Unknown: That the way you think
should influence other people
you sing for a living. Just deal
with that. Su
Taylor Swift, well, look,
we we admire Taylor Swift's
music, but I don't think most
Americans, whether they like our
music or fans of hers or not,
are going to be influenced by a
billionaire celebrity who I
think is fundamentally
disconnected from the interests
and the problems of most
America. Look
Adam Curry: at the nonsense our
media is discussing this is such
nonsense. Look,
Unknown: when grocery prices go
up by 20% it hurts most
Americans. It doesn't hurt
Taylor Swift, well, that's
pretty much what you would
expect from Donald Trump in the
mag world following Taylor
Swift's endorsement of Vice
President Kamala Harris after
the debate this week, all
because she had the audacity to
share her thoughts with her fans
about the upcoming election and
reminding them to register to
vote despite the Maga outrage,
the Swifties assembled with
reports of an increase in voter
registration. Get this by 400 to
500% since her endorsement, and
now Maga world has set its focus
on its latest target, following
swiftgate, WNBA star, Caitlin
Clark, why? You may ask. Well,
because she dared to simply like
Swift's Instagram post.
Apparently, that's all it takes
to set these people off. It
seems the mega nut does not fall
far from the Trump tree.
Morning.
Taylor Swift is not a psyop.
Taylor Swift is not a
sign Taylor Swift is not a Swift
is not a psyop. Taylor Swift is
not
a psyop. Taylor Swift is not a
Taylor Swift.
Adam Curry: She's a psyop.
John C Dvorak: I never heard
that that the psyop, psyop has
good huh? No, I guess it's going
around. That was the Sinclair
Broadcasting.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Taylor
Swift is not a psyop. No,
Unknown: of course not.
Adam Curry: Okay, now you can go
into trans Maoism, because we're
there,
John C Dvorak: we're there. You
that, since you play the the non
story, yes, of Taylor Swift, I
have the worst non story ever
from NPR. And you i This is a
one minute clip. I put it on the
list. It was actually on the
last list, and it's like such a
non story that I'm going to say
in advance, this is a waste of
one minute of your life. Oh,
we'll never
Adam Curry: get it back. People,
a
Unknown: secret chamber 30 feet
deep was recently uncovered
under the National Mall in
Washington, DC. Not exactly
Harry Potter's Chamber of
Secrets, but still cause for a
lot of speculation about the
question, what was it for a
construction crew discovered? At
the cistern while renovating a
part of the Smithsonian known as
the castle, they only found this
hole because of a long term
effort to revitalize this part
of the historic building, the
first in half a century,
built in 1847 the structure's
main function was gathering
rainwater. But
120 years ago, it was sealed off
entirely until this construction
crew discovered it last month.
While
there are some false rumors and
Hollywood blockbusters alleging
that a labyrinth of archives or
secret tunnels lie underground,
there's nothing out of the
ordinary about this cistern,
except maybe that it still
exists at all.
Yes, we must disclose zero
secret symbols, zero ancient
archives were found in the
rainwater receptacle after it
was uncovered. Sorry
to burst your bubble. National
Treasure fans, don't
look over here. Nothing to see
you look at that. Yeah, no.
John C Dvorak: Sorry to burst
your bubble. This was they dig
it. They found a cistern, and
they made a story out of it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, because they
have to cover up the tunnels. We
all know. We all know there's an
underground network of tunnels
that connects everything, Denver
to Washington, DC with high
speed trains. Come on this
John C Dvorak: 70s. In the 70s,
there was a fad of hitchhiking
in this country. Yeah, and every
friends of mine that hitchhiker.
Everyone was hitchhiking all
over the place, and so I picked
up a hitchhiker once, and I
think it was a it was there's a
lot of cute girls hitchhiking.
This didn't last for long, for
obvious reasons, and with a with
just deadpan, she told me about
this, about the submarine bases
that are under Lake Tahoe. Yeah,
that did submarines come into
Wait.
Adam Curry: I need to back this
story up. So you picked up a
hitchhiker. Yeah, okay. First,
what car are you driving?
John C Dvorak: I was driving a
Mustang.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, JCD, bam,
bam, hey baby. Now wish did she
was she just thumbing it? Or did
she have a sign?
John C Dvorak: Did she have a
sign? Let's beside you want to
hear the basis for the story.
You just want to get look for
lewd, lascivious details that
don't exist.
Adam Curry: You had a Mustang
with a glass pack muffler. Baby
Bump, bump. Where you going?
Going My Way? Mm, hmm. I'm just
trying to visualize it
John C Dvorak: for everybody.
You're a legend. Schiff is what
you doing. You're a legend.
Adam Curry: Okay, so
John C Dvorak: the idea was, and
it was just with a dead straight
face and total seriousness. And
I've run into California's
loaded with these people. The
submarines come into San
Francisco Bay, into an
underground tunnel that's, I
guess, big enough to carry
submarines. And the submarines
go all the way through
California. You know, I think
it's like 200 miles to get to
Lake Tahoe, and then they then
they're based there.
Adam Curry: So how many tabs did
you guys eat together? I'm
John C Dvorak: just saying it's
just like, who comes up with
this stuff, and why would they
base and what's the point?
Adam Curry: Does it matter?
It's, it's, it's what we do in
America, we think about our
government like we're in some
some space age sci fi movie. And
I will point out that RFK Jr
himself said that he was taken
to the underground base in the
60s, and they had a McDonald's,
an old city there. You think
they didn't expand that?
John C Dvorak: It could have
been in Quebec. I mean, if you
go to Montreal, there's a whole
underground city, and there's
one in Toronto, and there's one
in Edmonton. They're huge, and
they have McDonald's down there.
So I can see Kennedy being
stoned on something, and then
going down underneath the York
hotel. I mean, the York hotel is
one of the end butt ends of one
of the tunnels underneath
Toronto. He was
Adam Curry: in DC. They didn't
drug him, and he was a kid. It
was probably
John C Dvorak: down where the
subway
Adam Curry: is, all right, what
you got,
John C Dvorak: this is the kind
of insane person that's out
there. This is a girl is telling
she's giving you dating rules if
you're going to date her, Oh,
there's rules. Okay, if you're
going to date her, you're going
to have to live with this
situation with her, because
she's gender fluid, and she
wants you to know what you're
going to have to do, because
it's all up to she calls the
shots on this no matter what,
and so if you're going to date
her, you're going to have to
follow these rules. Here we go.
Unknown: Since discovering my
gender expression and how fluid
it is, I've come to a
realization that if you want to
date me, you have to be okay
with the fact that you might.
Wake up to a little boyfriend, a
little androgynous partner, or a
little femme girlfriend. You
might have a boyfriend one day
and a girlfriend the next day,
depending on how I'm feeling in
my gender expression. And I love
that about me. I love that I'm
not being put in a box anymore.
I mean, I think I'm the only one
that put myself within boxes,
but I'm glad I'm taking myself
out of the box, and like
allowing myself to be more fluid
with my gender expression.
Previously, in the past, I would
date people that loved being
with a mask. Okay? They were
like, I only want to be with a
mask. I am femme for mask, 100%
you cannot be anything else. And
they loved that about me. They
loved that I was androgynous,
more masculine. They loved that
I would wear chest binders, and
that half the time, I would be
perceived as a boy. I literally
dated people who were like, Oh
my God, you just got called Sir,
I love that. What do you mean?
You love that? Because I didn't
love that. I didn't love that
I'm non binary. I don't like
being called ma'am or sir. Okay,
I didn't love that. Why do you
love it? And I hated that. Okay?
It was terrible. So if you want
to date me, you have to be okay
with the fact that some days you
have a boyfriend, some days you
have a girlfriend, and some days
you have a little androgynous
partner. Okay, that is what I
need. That is what I want,
because that is who I am.
Adam Curry: And you found this
peculiar, because why
John C Dvorak: she's nuts.
Adam Curry: I love those, uh,
those posts. They circulate on
Twitter from time to time, just
like I'm looking for a
boyfriend. Here's the boyfriend
I want. Must be between 27 and
33 years old, must be six foot
two or taller, must make between
300,000 $500,000 a year. Must
have brown eyes. I mean, it's
like what is wrong that we're
living in a fantasy world. These
children have been these
children have been programmed by
some horrible external force
through our schooling system. So
here's a non binary gender fluid
trigger clip. I hurry up. Have
Unknown: you ever been paid to
be hate crimes? Well, I have. So
let me tell you about it. Okay,
so yesterday, I was at work
serving this family that was
sitting there like the three
wise men, and then all of a
sudden, out of the mom's mouth,
I hear the trigger words, non
binary and gender fluid. And
court is in session, and my ears
are turned on. Let's do this. So
basically, the mom was trying to
explain to the dad what it meant
to be non binary or gender
fluid. After a few minutes go
by, the dad responds in the same
way that every guy that looks
like him would, and says, you
know, I understand where they're
coming from, but if you are
biologically a male or female,
that's what you are. And then
I'm standing there
on the spot. Oh, oh,
Adam Curry: no, horrible.
John C Dvorak: I saw this clip.
I think we you know, she looked
and she looks like the type of
person that you just don't even
want to be around.
Adam Curry: Parents. You should
just take these phones away from
kids. It's over. It's done.
Everybody a dumb phone back to
flip phones, and then we have
these kinds of organized, I'm
John C Dvorak: glad you're,
you've, you've warmed up. My, my
desire to get these clips out
there in the public domain.
Yeah, and you've, actually, this
is the first one you've done.
Adam Curry: Yes, well, as for
me, it's a lead in into part of
the problem when this is being
exaggerated and encouraged by
organizations.
Unknown: In just a few hours,
the first ever gender liberation
March will take place in DC. The
event comes as the US Supreme
Court has agreed to take up the
case challenging Tennessee's ban
on gender affirming care.
Arguments will be heard in the
fall, and a decision is expected
next summer. The demonstration
was coordinated by the gender
liberation movement, which
states that they are marching
for bodily autonomy, self
determination, collectivism and
the pursuit of fulfillment in
the face of increasing
restrictions on communities on
the margins. I
Adam Curry: don't want to sound
Boomer ish, but whatever
happened just burning your bra
back in the 70s, that was cool,
like burn the bra
John C Dvorak: ladies gender
liberation movement.
Adam Curry: Well, what this is
about, and all the words are
tricky. You know, gender was a
gender based health care you
know, it's like, I'm ill. I want
to perpetuate this illness,
please. Would you enable me with
the operations and medications?
And these organizations are the
ones that are doing this to
young people, not gonna say
children, but even young people.
Before you're 25 You're a moron.
You don't know what you're
doing. That's cool. Oh, it's
cool. Now sounds like,
John C Dvorak: what about the
transition transitioned six year
olds? Yeah. Well, that's
Adam Curry: that is, of course,
child abuse. The parents should
be arrested here well, but the
parents have been told if you
don't do this to your child,
your child will kill itself.
That's what they've been told.
So it is an evil, evil, demonic
scheme. And here's one of the
organizers, Raquel Willis,
joining
Unknown: us now, is one of the
core organizers of the march
author and activist. Raquel
Willis, Raquel, thank you so
much for joining us. We
appreciate it.
Adam Curry: But now, how do you
think Raquel is going to sound?
John C Dvorak: She's gonna sound
like a gay male.
Unknown: Thanks for having me
wet.
So Raquel, let me ask you.
First, how did the idea for this
March come about, and how long
have you been you
Adam Curry: already heard these
clips, or is it just an
educator?
John C Dvorak: I have not heard
these tips, but I've as I've
been collecting these clips
longer than you have. I know
exactly what's working on your
legs. Yes,
Unknown: it's true. Here we go.
Well, we
like to say that this March is
years in the making. We there
have been so many attacks on
various communities on the
margins, especially LGBTQ, plus
folks. But of course, folks who
need access to abortion and
reproductive justice. So in the
last we started to build a bit
of a coalition of different
leaders and organizations who
believe that we all deserve to
make our own decisions about our
bodies. Y'all
Adam Curry: and with the vocal
fry, it's fantastic. Okay, I
have more. I have two more of
these, just to make it worse.
Yeah, no, you're loving it. Yes.
Did you ever see Victor
Victoria? By any chance that
that was a great play. Julie
Andrews,
John C Dvorak: days are over.
Being a woman play beyond that.
Well, that
Adam Curry: was a that was a
mind bender. It was Julie
Andrews playing who as a woman,
playing a man, playing a woman.
I mean, that was tough. That
was, that was, that was
complicated person.
John C Dvorak: Yes, she was.
Unknown: And if counter
protesters come out today, how
is the organization working to
make sure that participants stay
safe? Stay safe? Well, we
definitely have a robust and
strong safety team that is
there, guiding us through the
streets. We're going to take our
voices and our bodies past the
Capitol. We're going to go past
the Supreme Court, as you said,
and then we're also going to
take this right outside of the
Heritage Foundation. As many
folks know the Heritage
Foundation are, you know, they
are a key architect of project
2025, we know that that plan
that they are putting forth will
restrict so many of our rights
as queer and trans folks, as
women, as folks of color, and we
just want to let it be known
that we're not going to have
that we're going to raise our
voices and continue to fight
Adam Curry: so this was the
clear giveaway. And to me, I
think the whole thing, all of
this transgender the
amplification of transgenderism
is has been political from the
from day one, it's not about
people or children or or
anything. It's just, it's just
another thing like like Kara
Swisher, though they they're
just going after trans kids
because they hate the gays. The
Republicans hate the gays, and
they got gay marriage, and they
hate that. It's all political,
all of it. But then the key
question, this is ABC, by the
way, the key question. And
Raquel,
Unknown: as you know, some of
the things that you're
advocating for have become
controversial political issues
in this really divided country.
Adam Curry: Oh, really, you
don't say that's what she's
about wit that
Unknown: we're in right now,
several Republican led states
have taken steps to bar access
to gender affirming care for
transgender minors, which for
people under 18, that typically
involves using reversible
hormones to delay reversible
Adam Curry: hormones. Oh, boy,
really have they invented
something we didn't hear about.
That's a lie,
John C Dvorak: that's a lie,
Adam Curry: that's a big fat
lie.
John C Dvorak: That's a Disney,
Disney,
Adam Curry: Disney. There you
go. By the way, you I would
cancel your Disney subscription.
They're controlling your kids,
mind controlling
Unknown: them minors, which for
people under 18, that typically
involves using reversible
hormones to delay puberty. So
what do you say to people who
may have nothing against the
trans community at all, but just
believe that miners are simply
too young to be making these
life changing decisions?
Adam Curry: Oh, you want to put
any, any, any prop bets on the
answer?
John C Dvorak: Prop bet your
lexicon? Yeah, you prop
Adam Curry: bet finally. Prop
bet. You want to bet on this
one.
John C Dvorak: What is the
answer. What would be the prop?
It would it be? She was only a
binary situation. She's gonna
say. She's gonna have some bogus
reason that it's good. I can't.
I can't. I actually might be
surprised.
Unknown: Well, I would suggest
that folks get to know trans
folks across all ages. You know,
our experiences are not new, not
something that just kind of fell
out of the sky yesterday, as
many folks have thought, we have
elders. We have ancestors and
transces. Who ancestors
Adam Curry: transcesters.
John C Dvorak: This is good.
Holy moly. What a show title
Unknown: mind us that queer,
trans and non binary folks have
always existed, and actually one
of the key struggles for a lot
of our people has actually been
having access to the health care
that we deserve. So we
understand folks may have
questions, but let's actually
hear and be in dialog with folks
who know. Know firsthand what a
trans or non binary or gender
nonconforming experience is.
Overwhelmingly, the folks
pushing this regressive
legislation don't know queer and
trans and nonbinary folks, and
they are trying to fearmonger
and dig into ignorance. So
Adam Curry: did you have no
answer on your bingo card?
Because that was what she did,
no answer.
John C Dvorak: I did not have no
answer. She just beat around the
bush. These
Adam Curry: people are dangerous
to our children. They're a
danger. They're a danger.
Shouldn't be you know, you want
me to wrap it up with some Neo
pronouns for you.
Unknown: I'm in. So this is a
video for neoprono users to
duets, or, if you're
considering,
John C Dvorak: wait, stop stuff,
she said, This is a video for
what, what was the phrase she
used? So this is a video. Let's
listen.
Unknown: So this is a video for
neoprono users to duets, Neo
Adam Curry: I can't understand
that actually neoproninians
John C Dvorak: or something.
This
Unknown: is a video for neoprono
users to duets. Neo
Adam Curry: pronoun use, I
think, is what she's saying.
John C Dvorak: We slow down
because
Adam Curry: they're on speed,
they're on drugs, they're on
drugs, they're all on uh, meds,
heads. So
Unknown: this is a video for
neoprono users to duets, or if
you're considering neopronouns
for yourself, maybe even try a
blind react, however, safety
first, before you do either of
those things, make sure you're
in a mental state where if you
do get misgendered, you will be
okay. Are you ready? Let's get
started. Do you see this person
next to me is my friend C's had
to put up with a lot to get to
where per is today. I just want
to let Glenn know that phone is
valid, that for pronouns are
valid, and that Sarah identity
is valid. I wish Boyd all the
best and look forward to maybe
even seeing some of their lovely
content someday. Please treat
them with respect, and I'm sure
a will respect you too.
A so how did that feel?
Are there any Neo pronouns that
stuck out to you that you might
want to use for yourself? Good
luck on your pronoun journey.
Good luck.
John C Dvorak: Good luck on your
pronoun journey.
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna use
that when I just say goodbye to
somebody here in the hill
country. See you tomorrow on
your pronoun journey. Yeah, good
luck on your pronoun journey.
You know, I was talking about
the ADHD and I had this from the
last episode. I'll just play a
little bit of it. It's the
oddest thing. But they're now
saying that high doses of ADHD
drugs are linked to a greater
risk of psychosis. No kidding,
and I don't understand how this
made it onto NBC. This morning,
doctors are issuing a new
warning to patients who are
prescribed stimulant drugs like
Adderall and by Vance. This
comes from a new study published
in the American Journal of
Psychiatry. It found that taking
high doses of these drugs, which
contain amphetamine could put
people at a much higher risk of
developing psychosis or mania.
In fact, one
Unknown: estimate shows that
nearly a third of patients are
prescribed dosages that may
increase their risk of
developing these psychotic
symptoms.
NBC News, medical fellow doctor,
Akshay Saleh joins us now to
explain what this study found.
Doctor say, all good to have you
with us to walk
us through drugs
for tests, walk us through these
drugs in this study and just how
much of a risk doctors found
they could pose to patients?
Yeah. Guys, good morning. Guys,
yeah. So that the link here
between psychosis and mania and
amphetamine stimulants isn't
new. That's something that we've
known for a while,
Adam Curry: but what since? When
has this been discussed? It is
discussed,
John C Dvorak: but we know, you
know, you speed freaks is to be
called, course, as
Unknown: what is needed, you
know, just as
John C Dvorak: one of them, by
the way, yes, he
Unknown: was, is it was sort of
getting some information about
what doses are required to sort
of increase your risk here,
developing those symptoms like
psychosis, Romania. And you can
see here, what we found is that
you know, if you take more than
these doses on the screen, so
more than 40 milligrams of
Adderall, more than 100
milligrams of Vyvanse, or 30
milligrams there of dexedrine,
you have a 5.3 greater
likelihood of developing
psychosis, and that
Adam Curry: these are normal
prescription levels, 40
milligrams of Adderall, 100
milligrams of Vyvanse. So
psychosis, which is that, right?
Yes, at normal, it's in the
story here somewhere. I think
the normal is 40 to 60. Is your
typical prescription? No, the
medium dosage of Adderall is 20
to 40. That's medium. That's
John C Dvorak: medium. That
means as many as above as below,
yes,
Adam Curry: 50 to 100 for
vivant. So hundreds at the top
ends, but it's all medium range.
So you Yeah, that
John C Dvorak: means most people
are getting or but half the
people are getting a psychotic
dose. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And do you think
that you could do. Stuff like, I
don't know, shoot up a school or
do something.
John C Dvorak: That's
interesting theory, but I've
never heard such an idea. But it
really
Adam Curry: doesn't matter,
because pretty soon, schools
will just have a machine. The
machine will be a dispenser. You
go into the machine, you talk to
the machine, the machine will
say, Yeah, I think you need to
up your up your meds. The Doro
Unknown: app uses AI technology
like chatgpt to offer users
early mental health
intervention.
Adam Curry: Oh yes, there's an
app. There's an app for early
men listen if you're on an app
you already need early mental
health help.
Unknown: The user types their
symptoms and questions in a chat
field, and Doro calling from
information available to it,
tailors a treatment and writes
back. So we, for
example, deliver ti PP, which is
a set of like things that you
should do when you when you have
a panic attack, what's your face
with cold water or try to do
some breathing.
Adam Curry: I'm having a pan
attack. Let me go to the app and
ask what I should do.
John C Dvorak: So if you see
some of the panic attacks, just
throw the your glass of cold
water right in their face.
That's right. That'll help. The
Unknown: app, according to
rasoli, is also programmed to
glean if a person is
experiencing serious or
potentially dangerous symptoms
like severe depression or
suicidal ideation.
This is the point that if you
realize the symptoms are too
serious, we refer them to the
therapist. Oh
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Get that
guy in apps, like doors.
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second.
Have you noticed the use of the
word ideation when they when
they bring up suicide? I don't
remember as a kid, anyone ever
saying suicide ideation? I think
it's an interesting phrase,
Adam Curry: which means you're
toying with the idea? No, I
John C Dvorak: think it means
you're idealizing the advantages
of suicide. I think there's
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no
ideation. This is a, that's a
real so let's look it up.
Ideation, ID, ideation, okay,
the capacity, oh, here, the
capacity for the act of forming
or entertaining ideas. So you're
ideating which it's like we used
to use this at me. VO, yeah, we
were ideating on that.
John C Dvorak: Well, it sounds
like a Silicon Valley, yes,
yeah, we were, we were ideating
on I've never heard anyone say
ideating in my life. Well, you
heard it, so now, now I have, I
can't say this. You've heard it
severe depression or
Unknown: suicidal ideation. This
is the point that if you realize
the symptoms are too serious, we
refer them to the therapist.
Yeah, the therapist
Adam Curry: will prescribe you
drugs. It's so obvious.
Unknown: Apps like Doro seek to
help fill a gap, especially for
young adults and teens who tend
to report higher rates of mental
health problems. This
Adam Curry: is a portal. This is
a portal to suck kids into
getting them on drugs. A 2022
Unknown: study by Canadian
Alliance of student associations
revealed that one in three
students said campus mental
health resources did not meet
their needs. The entry of AI and
psychiatry is a polarizing issue
for experts. Eduardo Bungay,
professor of psychology at Palo
Alto University, who specializes
in children and adolescents,
sees mostly positive outcomes.
So this is a very good first
line of treatment that may not
be, huh? Would you say? So
John C Dvorak: What school did
they say? It's Palo Alto unit.
There is no such school. Let
Unknown: me listen again. Entry
of AI into psychology and
psychiatry is a polarizing issue
for experts. Eduardo Bungay,
professor of psychology at Palo
Alto University. There's
Adam Curry: no such thing as the
Palo Alto. You
John C Dvorak: I've never heard
of Palo Alto, and this is not in
in the Bay Area, at some other
Palo Alto, someplace else, but
Palo Alto University.
Adam Curry: This is new to me.
Here it is Palo Alto University.
Yeah, is, where is it? I'm going
to look a boot. Let me see
private nonprofit, Palo Alto
University, a private nonprofit
university. Look what kind of
university is that? Of his
nonprofit, located in the heart
of Northern California, Silicon
Valley. That's where you are. Is
dedicated to addressing pressing
and emerging issues and
specializing in behavioral
health to equitably meet the
needs of today's diverse
communities.
John C Dvorak: Boy, this is some
bogus operation That
Adam Curry: sure sounds like it
doesn't well. I
John C Dvorak: mean, it's
allegedly bogus, I'll say that,
but because they may be
litigious for all I know, I've
never heard of them, and I'm in
the Bay Area, and I've never
heard of them. Well, they bring
some guy, and they couldn't
bring a Stanford guy in, or a
Berkeley guy, or a Santa Clara
guy, or a San Jose State guy or
or any mate. You know, we have
major universities in the area,
but they bring in a guy from
Palo Alto University, this like
the singularity. University,
they're going to bring that guy
in next
Adam Curry: at Pau, you can
expect a transformative
education tailored to your
needs. Our programs offer one to
one, advising, practical
experience through internships
and placements, expert faculty,
guidance and supportive
community. Graduates from Pau
find themselves well prepared
for careers in psychology,
counseling, social work and
behavioral health. This is some
kind of outfit, man,
John C Dvorak: they definitely
specialize. Yeah, that's
Unknown: that's for sure.
Eduardo Bungay, professor of
psychology at Palo Alto
University, who specializes in
children and adolescents, sees
mostly positive outcomes. So
Adam Curry: this is like a very
good first line of treatment
that may not be sufficient, may
not be enough, but it's better
than nothing. This is to
John C Dvorak: get the guy from
a Woody Allen movie.
Adam Curry: Listen to this. So
they specialize in Lesbian, Gay,
Bisexual and Transgender mental
health, cognitive behavioral
approaches to childhood anxiety
disorders, pediatric psychology.
This is, this is a frightening
group gender issues. They must
be pumping out salesmen for.
Gender health care could be
John C Dvorak: it's definitely
specialized, yeah,
Adam Curry: all right, well,
then let me finalize all this
nonsense with the latest we have
to worry about for your teens,
Unknown: a new study is
revealing unusual changes in
teenagers brain development
during the pandemic.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was a
good one. That was a good time
kids.
Unknown: It's not that
surprising to know that their
actual brain changes that
happened during the pandemic,
given everything that teens,
especially teen girls, faced,
Adam Curry: this guy sounds like
he's a graduate of the Palo Alto
University. The
Unknown: study found covid era
lockdowns ended up aging
teenagers brains faster than the
usual rate, more than four years
faster than usual in girls,
compared to just over a year
faster in boys. The
authors hypothesized that
adolescent girls were affected
more than boys, because they may
be more dependent on that social
interaction and being able to
connect with their friends.
Back in 2018 researchers began
tracking brain changes in 160
people ages nine to 17, they
found lockdowns contributed to
an increase of anxiety,
depression and behavioral
disorders causing their brains
to mature faster. The same type
of accelerated brain aging has
been documented in teens who
suffered severe trauma, stress
and neglect. But it's
important to note that these
studies don't exactly tell us
what the long term effects are,
or if the process can be
reversed or slowed down with the
right type of emotional support
moving forward.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, we screwed
up the world.
John C Dvorak: This is on
purpose. Yeah,
Adam Curry: lockdowns was a good
idea, wasn't it? Guys, two weeks
to flatten the curve. President
Trump, flatten that curve. All
Unknown: right, so we've got to
talk more about this. We want to
bring in ABC News Medical
contributor, Dr Lok Patel,
Adam Curry: yeah, please. Patel,
look.
Unknown: Dr Patel, it's good to
see you sort of explained for us
in that story what happened. But
how concerned should parents be
about this new finding parents
already being concerned about
what happened to the kids during
covid, and can the negative
impact here be reversed in any
way?
Adam Curry: By the way, I would
say to all the producers
listening right now, don't
believe any of this nonsense.
Don't fall for it. Don't take
your kid to the doctor. Don't be
looking if your kid is feeling
older. This is all just medical
sales. It's a sales job, every
single bit of it, which kid on
some some med. So be fine. Good.
Unknown: I think parents should
be just more aware about the
true impact of the stress of the
pandemic, stress from all around
us that that's had on those
developing teen brains. What the
study really does is it adds
some physical evidence to what
we already know about how
sensitive teen brains are during
those critical years and how
fragile they really are. Now the
headline is alarming, but it's
important for people out there
to understand that our brains go
through changes with age, with
maturity, and so some of these
changes are not necessarily bad
on their own, but they can be
accelerated with stress. So I
don't think parents should
really panic from the headline,
but what they should be doing
instead, is really doing what
they can to pay attention to the
emotional well being of their
teens and their young kids and
Adam Curry: use the proper
pronouns so you don't stress
them more. Whatever happened to
our kids, what do we do to them?
Do. See any behavior of this in
your children? No, no, no, me,
neither you know why, because
they listen to the no agenda
show, and actually they don't
know. They don't. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your
courage say in the morning to
the man who put the C in the
atacms, the one and only, Mr.
John Cena morning
John C Dvorak: to you. Mr. Adam
curry, the morning all shifts
and see boost in the ground,
feeding the air subs in the
water, and all the Dames and
nights out there. And in
Adam Curry: the morning to all
the trolls.
I'm waiting for cotton gin to
come in. We have 2076 but we are
late. We're late with the
donation segment today. So I
don't have subs in the tunnel, I
don't have a peak count, but
there's enough trolls. They're
all hanging out there in the
trolls low
John C Dvorak: number. We're
Adam Curry: one hour and 50
minutes. We're one hour and 50
minutes into the show. So I'm
sure it was more like 2300 you
can say that I am saying that
because I know maybe building it
may be higher. Well, let me see,
I thought I had a link to that.
I thought I had a link to the
somewhere there was a link to
the there's a chart. Could see
cotton gin. Cotton gins down.
Where's cotton gin anyway? The
trolls can be found at trollroom
dot,
John C Dvorak: even he's not
listening, it's so
Adam Curry: bad cotton gin is
not even listening. Trollroom.io
is where you can log in and
listen to the live stream.
There's plenty of stuff going on
24 hours a day. Or use a modern
podcast app, which you can
find@podcastapps.com it'll alert
you when we go live, which is
the, really, the modern way of
broadcasting, and if you can't
catch it live, like cotton gin,
then that. Oh, wait, here's the
cotton here it is. Here,
control, count, hold on. I got
it here. Oh, the peak was 2190
so it is a bit low. But yeah,
2190
Unknown: Is it that bad?
John C Dvorak: That's terrible.
I
Adam Curry: don't know about
terrible. Also, with these
modern podcast apps, you get
chapters and transcripts and all
kinds of fun things, and now you
can it's also when you're if
you're listening to us right
now, look for the little the
little dollar sign, or little
stack of bills you click on that
takes you right to no agenda
donations.com which is like
removing a whole bunch of steps.
You don't have to think about,
where do I go to paypal? What do
I do now? Just click on that
button. It's easy, and that
means that we operate under
value for value, which is
without doubt, the best way to
operate a podcast there's,
there's so many people
struggling, trying to figure out
how to monetize their show and
grow it. Well, forget about it.
Forget about it. I mean, this
is, this is the the era of media
being small. You just get your
group, you get your people.
Those people support you, and if
you're any good, then you'll
continue. If not, you won't.
It's survival of the fittest out
here, narrow casting. Oh, I
don't like narrow casting.
That's what it is. No, that's
Hello, 1985
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying
it's a new term. No, it's
Adam Curry: not narrow casting.
It's micro services, media.
Unknown: It's different.
Adam Curry: You don't like that
one either, do you?
John C Dvorak: Well, no,
actually, I'm thinking about it.
Maybe there's some element in
there that is micro services.
We're all
Adam Curry: using little micro
services and we're media. So the
idea behind value for value was
funny. I sent out a link. There
were a whole bunch of artists, I
think was the Bitcoin
Conference. They wanted a panel.
They're all talking about value
for value, and they're talking
they're doing it perfectly. I
mean, to the T they're
explaining exactly what it is
like. You just put your stuff
out there. If people listen to
it, if they like it and they
value it, they send you back
value, even using time talent
and treasure. This was for
musical artists, or talking
about people helping them with
their merch, or helping them
with their concerts, or booking
venues, merch, merch, merch,
like we have no agenda shop.com
and and I was, I was really
proud. Like, look at this.
People are using the term that
we've been using for, well, for
more than 15 years as we come up
on our 17th anniversary, and,
and people like these kids are
not even giving you credit.
You're missing the point where
they
John C Dvorak: aren't. This is
true. But so what? It's okay we
have, when you get into this,
this point of in media, in
general, everything gets stolen.
Yes,
Adam Curry: the way, it's that
works, but it's okay. I want to,
I want all
John C Dvorak: the clips we
play. We're not necessarily. I
have to, sometimes even ask
where some of these clips come
from. It's
Adam Curry: true. Yeah. Yes. So
a great example of value for
value is all the work that our
producers do. They send us
ideas. They send us links. Some
of us send us ready to make
clips, although those usually
aren't that usable, except for
the Jones brothers, of course,
Jones brothers, they do a great
job.
John C Dvorak: No, it takes
skill to to do clips it
Adam Curry: does and to label
them properly. That's
John C Dvorak: it, that well,
there is a skill I don't have.
Well, I'm used to your
Adam Curry: labeling, so it's
okay, but keeping it within time
limits. You know, if you count
it up like today, we have in our
bin 112 clips. Now we won't play
them all, but, you know, we put
on this, this show, this
performance, and we weave in and
out, and then it's like, hey,
you've got something, I got
something. We just make it look
easy, but it's a lot of clips.
And so some of that comes from
our producers. What also comes
from our producers is our
continuously changing and
entertaining album art, which
they upload to no agenda Art
generator.com, another website
we didn't build, because if we
did, we'd be poor. There's just
no way you can't there's no way
you can have producers on
payroll. No instead, we credit
people. We help them. We we've
helped them launch their own
podcast. We do whatever we can.
We send more value back to them
in many ways. And in this case,
we have producers who, most of
them are Dutch masters, such as
data. We have an or data, I
should say data, who hasn't come
in in a while, but data's been
out there.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, he's
hard working on and off for
years. Yes,
Adam Curry: and oh, by the way,
Martin JJ is alive. We did a
Well, nice check. Yeah, did. We
did? I tell you about that. I
thought you wanted to know.
John C Dvorak: I thought I
already knew he was alive. No,
where'd you find out? Well, we
did it. Well, I guess I made the
assumption I wasn't. Like,
Adam Curry: no, we did. We did a
wellness check. He checked in on
the mastodon. He's alive, but he
had a job change so he can no
longer listen live and do art.
So his his life changed. But he
actually says he likes it,
because now he can just listen
to the show and enjoy it instead
of
John C Dvorak: working, oh,
instead of fretting about the
art. Exactly. So Dave, yes,
well, he was still when it when
he was on a roll, which was
years ago. He was winning every
week. I think he had the longest
streak of of accepted art. Oh,
yeah, any artist, yeah, that was
at one time. And in fact, he
started gloating to the point
where says, I'm gonna stop,
because I'm taking I'm taking up
too much space. I'm too good.
I'm too good. Good.
Adam Curry: I gotta step back.
Let some other young people do
some work here. So data brought
us this delightfully cute little
kitty sitting inside a can of
cat food, only called feline
delight. Which do you think that
was? It looks like that must be
AI. I mean, it's so good. The
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, it
also has a flaw.
Adam Curry: What is that?
John C Dvorak: Well, the the
flaw is the tab on the on the
lid is on the wrong side.
Adam Curry: Ooh, good catch.
Yes, yeah, yes, you're right,
interesting, but
John C Dvorak: that's the only,
but the rest of it's just just
such a cute cat head. Yeah, it
was sticking out of the can. It
was a tomato soup can, a big
tomato can. It just was too much
to not choose. There was,
Adam Curry: there was a lot of
interesting pieces that people
came in with. There was a lot of
cat and dog stuff being eaten or
being prepared to eat. Let me
see, we had, of course, lots of
camel and Trump stuff, which,
although it does happen, we are
unlikely to use, a lot of round
stuff from comics or bloggers
prompt work. I kind of liked
Taunton Neal's Springfield Paw
Patrol, but I but the kitty just
it was hard to beat that cute
kitten. I mean, you put a cute
kitty in a can, we're kind of
good to go. I mean, that's,
yeah, it's pretty tough one to
beat. Anything else that you
wanted to talk about really?
John C Dvorak: I mean, I use the
camera buttons for the
newsletter the childless,
catless ladies and a dog in
every pot
Adam Curry: for Camelot, yeah,
appropriate use for the
John C Dvorak: news. Springfield
was a good one from comic strip
blogger. That was good.
Unknown: Yeah, exactly.
Adam Curry: So, no agenda, Art
generator.com, that's where you
can participate. You could not,
first of all, you can just take
a look at it. You can, if you're
listening live, you can scroll.
You can just refresh that page
and see it as it comes in. Or
you can, or you can participate
by uploading your own starting.
Account there. And as usual, Dr
Scott the Bruce Wayne of
podcasting 2.0 he is always
using many of these pieces for
our chapter art. And if you're
using a modern podcast app, will
be will change topics. Boom, the
art will change. You get another
chuckle. It's beautiful. That's
the time and the talent portion.
Then we have the treasure
portion, which is value that you
send in monetary units back to
the show, very much needed, for
sure. And it's very simple. You
just send us whatever the show
is worth to you. And $5 may be a
lot for you every single month,
that's fine. Then support us
that way, and it doesn't matter
what amount it is, as long as
you support the show, we can
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donations, which you can set at
no agenda donations.com set your
own frequency, your own amount.
We do like to highlight our
executive and associate,
executive producers. Associate,
$200 above, we read your note.
Executive, $300 above, and we
read your note. And wouldn't you
know it?
Unknown: Wow,
Adam Curry: we have a rubbilizer
donation coming in from let me
see, did I? Did I get the
rubbilizer? Rubbilizer? Here we
go. We have, sir, not sure, from
monument Colorado, coming in
with three sought, $3,333.33
rubbilizer. Out. That is a
rubbilizer donation. He says ITM
Sir, not sure, Baron of the tri
lakes. This donation brings me
to Viscount status. After
getting rid of the noodle people
from work, I find my finances to
be much better, and I felt I
should send a bit of treasure
your way as a thanks for all
that you guys do. Please. Let's
run a business. Yes, and he got
rid of the noodle the noodle
kids, yeah. Good for him, yeah.
John C Dvorak: The way to go.
No,
Adam Curry: maybe it may be
because we we told him that he
should indirectly, well and
directly, please add me
September 17 and my sister, Dame
Marie, on the 14th to the
birthday list and give her a
biscuit for her birthday. See, I
got a biscuit for her birthday.
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: I would like thee. I
love my truck, and I love what I
do. Jingle. Keep up the good
work, and thank you for your
courage. That's Mark rush
Schall, also known as Sir, not
sure, soon to be Viscount, and
that'll have to come from you,
John,
John C Dvorak: what, I'm sorry,
what?
Adam Curry: I love my truck.
That's not an actual jingle. I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry I was your
noise maker, the birthday list,
yeah, I was double checking
something. Sorry, but what so I
love my truck, and I love what I
do.
Unknown: India. Hang out. Mike
standby, 3333
Adam Curry: 33 rubies are out.
Awesome, sir, not sure. Thank
you so much. That is very much
appreciated.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that that
was a big deal. Amos in Port,
Lavaca, Lavaca, Lavaca, Texas,
who's also came in with a good
number, 1776 dot 33 huh? Wow. 76
Oh, yes. Freedom, dearest,
dearest JCD and pod father. This
donation is in honor of Sir and
Mrs. Heck of Engle Ford shale.
Engle Ford shale, shale company,
in the words of warrior poet
Alexander Jones, the solution to
1984 is 1776 Yes.
Adam Curry: Warrior poet
Alexander Jones, that's good.
John C Dvorak: Alexander. Seemed
appropriate. There's still a far
cry from what, what? Both you
and they deserve my introduction
to no agenda is one of the is
one of innumerable blessings, to
granted me, to granted me, I'd
say granted me through the hex.
Oh, they, they the hex did it.
The hex did it. Hex did it.
We're words cannot capture my
appreciation for all they have
done, nor you for that matter.
So I won't belabor it from the
kid that was told to never stop
asking questions. Thank you, God
bless signed, Amos. God
Adam Curry: bless you. Thank you
very much. Janet Webb is in
Gilbert, Arizona, $900 and she
has a note which is handwritten.
I have it here. ITM John Adam.
This donation is through the
best podcasts in universe. Nice
handwriting, by the way, along
with our $100 quite. Interest.
John C Dvorak: The handwriting
is, yes, it's unique.
Adam Curry: Along with our $100
donation last year will bring me
to damehood. I would like to be
Dame Janet of the TP, of the TP
Wyoming
John C Dvorak: jazz. Does it say
Jasper?
Adam Curry: Where does it say
Jasper?
John C Dvorak: Doesn't it
Jasper, no filming. Oh, it does
say, sorry, yeah. The tea, I
have a copy here, yes.
Adam Curry: Well, your copy
sucks. I can see it just fine.
At the round table, I'd like
spaghetti and carbonara and a
bottle of excellent dry red wine
chosen by John. Hold on. Let me
get my list here so I can do
this. So we have spaghetti and
carbonara and a bob Brunello,
Brunello, Brunello. What is do
we have a year for the Brunello?
John C Dvorak: I'll have to dig
up the year.
Adam Curry: By the way, we got a
number of reports from Costco.
Noticed from Costco. David Mike,
Costco
John C Dvorak: still hasn't got
the wine in yet. Yeah. David
producer,
Adam Curry: David said, Hey
guys, thanks for the help. I
asked an employee where they
were hiding the Costco, yes, the
four, the crate of four uh
Bordeaux. And the guy said
another guy was in here earlier,
looking forward to from some
podcasters advice. And someone
also let me know that I think
this is completely due to your
complaints. Costco has brought
back the rotisserie boxes for
the Oh yes, really, yes, the
road, their boxes are back.
John C Dvorak: Make the Brunello
a, 2016
Adam Curry: Okay, 28 2016 Bruno,
that was a good year for
brunellos.
John C Dvorak: I'm reliably
informed. Really, you just been
reliably informed. Uh, you two
Adam Curry: bring information
and humor into our lives. What
could be better? Please credit
this $900 to The Sims, to the
Sunday, September 16 show. It
was the 15th as that's our 40th
anniversary. So maybe their
anniversary is on the 16th, and
she was confused. So Happy
Anniversary in advance 40 years
they never had a fight. And
Happy belated birthday to Adam.
Thank you, blessings and may you
never find an exit strategy soon
to be in this episode, Dame
Janet of TP Wyoming, thank you,
Dame Janet, very kind.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that came in
last show and Jade decided to
archive it.
Adam Curry: Oh, and she also
wants, I love my truck and I
love what you do. Since she has
a Toyota four runner, she's
changed it to, I love my four
and I love what I do, but I
think you have to hit the jingle
Unknown: again. Oh, I love my
truck and I love what I do, and
I know you to cook it if you
don't use fresh vegetables.
Adam Curry: Wow, the extended
remix, and I love this next one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, this
is, uh, supposedly from Jason
Cali Candace in San Francisco,
even though he lives in Austin,
his most of his life's been
spent in Los Angeles. But okay,
we'll assume it's Jason Cali
Candace, even though I doubt it.
Adam Curry: Dude, he literally,
right after the show, sent me a
Twitter DM, and I'm pulling it
up now. Here it is. He said, he
sent me. He said, I do a great
Adam curry. I don't have a lift.
And he sent me. He sent me a
copy of the PayPal receipt for
333 it's, it's really him, he I
told you, he listened. I can't
believe you're now doubting that
it's him. It is him.
John C Dvorak: Did 333 and no
note, no. So he gets, he gets a
double up karma, doesn't he? He
sure does.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: I thought it was
great. Well,
John C Dvorak: it is. If it's
well, it's never sent us to
Adam Curry: John. It's him.
Would you please just thank
Jason nicely. Thanks,
John C Dvorak: Jason. There you
go. And I won't you don't have a
list. The voice that I do love
you. Is it more of a Sylvester,
the cat sort of thing? Well,
Adam Curry: sorry. And welcome
to Texas. Jason, welcome Scott.
Have
John C Dvorak: Adam over to the
ranch, yeah,
Adam Curry: did you just do that
again? Ranch? Did you just do
that?
John C Dvorak: No, I did not.
He's
Adam Curry: gonna have me over
to the ranch. I'm gonna record a
little bit for you. I'm gonna
have him record
John C Dvorak: a bit. Oh, he'll
do my voice. He's
Unknown: very
John C Dvorak: similar to the
voice that Mimi does when she
does me.
Adam Curry: Oh. Should hear the
one she does about you when
you're not in the room. I know
what it sounds like. Scott Cohen
is in Volga, South Dakota, and
comes in, oh, our first
Associate Executive Producer,
and comes in with $250 and says,
I'd like some baby making karma,
please. Okay, remember name him
after Adam and John. Oh, karma.
John C Dvorak: Brian D O, I
believe in Fishers Indiana, two
to two of the duck row of ducks
being that this is my fifth row
of ducks. Donation, please,
Knight me, Sir Ryan diazio.
Diazio diazio diazio, the knight
who couldn't give a who couldn't
give a single duck, but couldn't
give a duck, get it and provide
Chilean sea bass and a Cortese
of John's choosing, on, uh, on
the at the RT,
Adam Curry: at the brown tube,
round tube. Oh, okay,
John C Dvorak: so a corteze.
What's a Cortese?
Adam Curry: I don't know a bit.
You're the wine guy.
John C Dvorak: God bless no
agenda and well, he and goat
comedy or what. There used to be
a winery called Cortese in
California, but since he's in
Indiana, I'm sure he's not.
Adam Curry: It's an Italian
wine. It's a white, white wine
grape variety.
John C Dvorak: Oh, a Cortese
grape. Yes. Wow. I don't know
any wine is made with that
grape. I just don't.
Adam Curry: Well, you're you're
ill prepared,
John C Dvorak: yes, well now
that I'll look it up and give a
selection after the next couple
of donations,
Adam Curry: tell us that John,
I'm just writing it in here.
John will give eventually. Okay,
nice. All right. Well, way to
go. That's
John C Dvorak: the best I can
do.
Adam Curry: Up next, we
actually, this is Florida Lawn
solutions. Who hopes that that
you'll do this read,
John C Dvorak: oh, go look back
at that. I see The Cortices
here. It's some of them are
quite expensive. Oh, Florida
Lawn solutions. They're in
Panama City or Panama City
Beach, Florida to 1171 from
Florida Lawn solutions. I hope
JCD gets to do this. I started
listening since the end of 2021,
going through the archives of
2020, to 2021, on long weekdays
have been worth my donation. Ah,
just getting some of the covid
material. Yes, thanks for adding
that value and your courage. I
remember that you were running
out of deducings. It seems that
the supply is back in stock. Do
you need a new supplier? Oh, no,
we get it from Florida Lawn
solutions.
Unknown: You've been deduced
Adam Curry: Florida long
solutions for all your deducing
needs. Eli the coffee guy, is in
bensonville, Illinois, and he'd
like to do a switcheroo and
donate toward the knighthood of
one of our customers. Andrew
garland, Oh, now he's hooking up
his customers. How about that to
expedite his journey to the
roundtable. Thank you to all the
no agenda producers and who
we've talked to, from Canada to
Guam, what an awesome group of
people. We are lucky to be a
part of it. For all those in
Gitmo nation who want delicious,
fresh, roasted coffee, visit
gigawatt Coffee roasters.com use
code ITM 20 for 20% off your
order and stay caffeinated. Eli,
the coffee guy,
John C Dvorak: okay, get him a
2021 gavi degavi,
Adam Curry: okay, hold on, a
2021 gavi degave. Gavi degave,
how much is that? Is it
expensive? Because I got,
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
price. This doesn't matter. We
pay for it. Okay, good. Got it.
I can look up the price. I'm not
sorry. You're gonna do something
is cheap, and some like $80 a
bottle. It seems a little high
for Italian white wine that I've
never heard of. I'll
Adam Curry: do this. Next one is
from the Indiana meetup in
Greenwood, Indiana, Sir Mark de
Maria, of course, who always
organize that $200 it's a
switcheroo for Annette Miller.
Aha, because Annette Miller won
the raffle for this for this
meetup. Yeah, congratulations,
Annette. Thank you for helping
me make sense of the world
around me in all these years.
And even more so I thank you for
the no agenda family I found in
Indy. Please give a shout out
and some karma to my son, sir
Ryan Thomas, who hit me in the
mouth a very long time ago.
Peace from Annette Miller,
you've got karma? Yeah, we have
a meet
John C Dvorak: up report.
Adam Curry: We got a meet up
report from Indy coming up. It's
always a great meetup. You.
John C Dvorak: And last on our
list here a short list,
actually, is some big, top heavy
Linda lopatkin, our friend in
Lakewood, Colorado, asks for
jobs karma, and she says for a
gorgeous resume that gets
results. And she has gorgeous in
all caps, you
Adam Curry: gotta do gorgeous,
gorgeous.
John C Dvorak: Visit
imagemakers. Inc.com, for all
your executive resume and job
search needs, that's image
makers. Inc, i n k with a K, and
work with Linda Lou Duchess of
jobs and writer of resumes,
jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got
karma. And
Adam Curry: that wraps up our
executive and Associate
Executive producers for Episode
1695, thank you to all of you,
especially, as you said, top
heavy, wow. It's really been a
very good, good donation segment
for us, and we're looking
forward to thanking the rest of
you came in $50 and above in our
second segment. Remember, we
also have those meetups. We've
got the end of show mixes. We
have your tip of the day and
some more media deconstruction
again. Thank you for supporting
us. No agenda donations.com.
Unknown: Put some more
in the mouth. Spread the word
and donate.
Adam Curry: Thank you again to
our executive and Associate
Executive producers.
Unknown: Our formula is this, we
go out. We hit people in the
mouth. Shut
Adam Curry: up. Who you, who
you, who you, who
John C Dvorak: I got another
screw, screwball story from
North Korea or from NHK. Another
thing I've never heard of, okay,
this is the North Korea
abductions. Have you heard of
this? Tell me you've heard of
this. I
Adam Curry: have not heard of
the North Korean abductions, but
I'm ready to listen.
Unknown: The 88 year old mother
of a Japanese woman abducted
decades ago by North Korea has
again called on the government
to take immediate action. Yokota
sake told NHK time is running
out to recover her daughter.
It's been nearly 22 years since
North Korea admitted to
abducting Japanese nationals at
a summit with Japan, 13 year old
Megumi Yokota was abducted in
1977 while on her way home from
school in Niigata city on the
Sea of Japan Coast. Sakia spoke
to NHK about megumi's struggle
since that day,
how patient she must be to keep
calling for help for 47 years.
That really makes me feel so
frustrated.
Megumi is just one of 17
citizens the Japanese government
says were abducted by North
Korea in the 1970s and 80s. Five
have since returned, but the
others are still unaccounted
for.
John C Dvorak: What are they?
What are they? Is the girl on
her way home from school gets
abducted by the North Koreans,
and then they drag her over
there and make her live there
and do work, I don't know is
this is a screwball story? Well,
Adam Curry: it's a screwball
station.
John C Dvorak: Hello, okay,
screwball station.
Adam Curry: I must have
received, I don't You got any,
but I must have received five
different emails from people
around the United States to
complain about with the simp
complaints, very similar to
Aurora and Springfield. And I
think it's worth the just
mentioning, because it's all
it's all the same. They all have
the same complaints, and this
plays right back into the wage
suppression. And it's, I can, I
think I can pretty well
summarize what's going on and
how it works. And one of our
producers is in Utica, New York,
and he says, In the 90s, the
city brought in around 5000
Bosnian refugees as a result of
our Kosovo War. And he says what
happens is a local immigration
non profit pops up, lobbies the
local government to pass
legislation to welcome the
newcomers, done under the guise
of rebuilding a failing city. In
Utica case, the economy
collapsed when Bill Clinton
closed the local military base
and signed NAFTA, this decimated
the region's manufacturing
sector, which is only 10% so I
think you'd be more destruct
destroyed. The city was
desperate for a rebound. The
nonprofits promised an avenue to
revitalize, to revitalize these
communities with the importation
of cheap labor. And he shows me
the refugee, refugee
resettlement services for Utica
refugees. And if you look
around. Found there's one of
these in almost every single
community where there's an
overflow of immigrants. And if
you look at Springfield, the
organization there is called the
national youth advocate program,
they receive $160 million a year
to settle the immigrants. That
would be the Haitians. Marvina
twig the executive director or
president and CEO, her annual
salary is $1.169 million do you
see what's happening here? This
is we, and we've been on this
refugee resettlement thing.
There's a huge one in Austin,
also with million dollar C suite
pay packages. Many of them are
faith based, which is even more
excruciating to look at,
disturbing. Disturbing is the
right word. So this, again, is
the, is the College of
corporations. You know, it's
like, okay, we've got some refu
we got, we've got a refugee
situation in Haiti with, well,
there's some people over there.
Hey, we'll give them temporary
protective status, and we'll set
up this NGO over here. We'll
give them some money from the
National Endowment for
Democracy, that's and USA. Id
give them the money. They go to
the corporation say, hey,
everyone there is drugged out in
Ohio on opioids. You want some
cheap workers? Yeah, great. But
what happens is they give these,
these newcomers, as we like to
call them. They give them
housing. How do they do that a
apartment building guy, Hey,
listen, you got cheap rent over
there. We'll give you a 30%
more. If you kick everybody out,
we'll put some Haitians in
there. Okay, no problem. You're
out. Pay a Dole or Hey, machine
manufacturing, car plant
manufacturer, we got some cheap
labor. Okay, good. But then they
also, they give the the
newcomers housing money, they
give them debit cards with with
money for groceries, and they
get their $19 an hour. So
there's no way the local
citizenry can compete. And then
what? Just to poke everyone's
eyes out all these the Haitians
in in Springfield, they're
driving BMWs. They're like 345,
year old beamers and Mercedes
and so they don't care about the
citizens. They do not care the
whole system is set up, and it's
happened all across America, all
across it. I email after email
with the same story. I don't
know. I don't know how you stop
it, but this, this is the
gambit. And Germany just signed
a deal to welcome Kenyans,
250,000 Kenyans, because the
Germans apparently are no good
anymore.
Unknown: Did you hear this?
John C Dvorak: No, but I'm not
Adam Curry: happy about it.
Berlin has agreed to allow
skilled and semi skilled Kenyan
workers into Germany in a
controlled and targeted labor
migration deal. This is your new
world order. This is the whole
plan,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and it's
cheap labor, is it? The base of
it? Cheap labor? Cheap? No, not
for the taxpayer we're paying.
It's not cheap. We're pay. We're
paying the taxpayers are paying
for this. Yes, so it's being
subsidized by the US taxpayer
who's being kicked out of the
apartments that you have,
aforementioned apartments you
talked about. Yeah, this is
ridiculous. This is worse than
Oh, you know, this Indian guy
came in. I had to teach him my
job so I could get fired. This
is worse than that. It's much
worse than that.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, that's
John C Dvorak: what's really to
me. Is somewhat ironic, because
I was thinking about this is
that when California, we had a
system for farm labor, which has
still been an issue. It's always
an issue in California, and you
can't get enough people to work
in the farmlands, and we and so
they, they had a program called
the Bracero program, because
right now, Mexican nationals
will sneak over and they'll do
farm work and send the money
back to Mexico, to Mexico,
sorry. And the Bracero program
would brought the Mexicans up in
busses to do farm labor. They
got paid the same amount, and
then they shipped them back on
the same busses when they were
done and when the harvest was
over, and they just took the
money with them, yeah, which is
okay. Well, that was that was
not good enough. So he had to
end that program because it was
cruel or something. But now
we're doing this instead.
Adam Curry: Yep, and, and to
make matters worse, have you
seen what they're doing with
inmates in Alabama? No, it's. So
what is Kamala Harris is, by the
way, nobody,
John C Dvorak: no, no wonder
nobody's in the troll room.
We're depressing now.
Adam Curry: No, I think we're
confirming their fears, and
we're we're helping them
understand what, what's going on
in their world. This is not
meant to be depressing. After
the show, you turn it off and go
smoke a dupe. Everything you're
good to go. Everybody
John C Dvorak: was having the
Alabama prisoners.
Adam Curry: So we have, for
many, many generations in
America, we've always enjoyed
using our inmates for cheap
labor. You know, making Ikea
furniture license plates is kind
of the old joke, but they still
actually make license plates in
jail and and the I think most of
the inmates make between nine
and 13 cents an hour, depending
on on what job you're in. So
Alabama has a new twist on this.
Unknown: Well, a lot of people
are calling it modern slavery.
Does that feel right?
Just about to say that's
slavery, that's slavery. You
took away the Wilkes, but you
put the paperwork, took away the
Masters, and you gave put them
in uniform. Same difference,
Same difference.
It kind of appears that there is
a coordinated system in order to
protect the labor that's created
by the prison system.
Walk into a McDonald's in
Alabama and the worker flipping
your McDouble could be an
incarcerated person. It's
a sad situation
a way, they getting rich off of
the
Alabama Department of
Corrections farms out
incarcerated people to work at
hundreds of private companies
and government agencies across
the state. McDonald's,
Burger King, Golden Corral,
Wendy's. They got a Wendy's
contract right now. State
troopers office, they'll send
everybody everywhere. They'll
send you everywhere. Yes, the
parole office,
and even though Adoc trusts
these incarcerated people to
leave prison every day and work
alongside the general public.
Many of them are still denied
the chance at real freedom.
Adam Curry: So you're
incarcerated, you're in jail,
but we're going to let you out
to go flip burgers at
McDonald's,
John C Dvorak: probably pennies
on the dollar in terms of pay.
Adam Curry: Yes. How does this
make sense?
John C Dvorak: And we're always
bitching and moaning about the
Chinese,
Adam Curry: right? Exactly.
We're worse than the Chinese.
We've commercialized it. That's
slavery. That is real slavery,
right there. If you if you're
safe enough to go out into
society, which is the whole part
of incarceration, then you
shouldn't be incarcerated.
John C Dvorak: How's she gonna
get the cheap labor? We win.
Win. We need.
Adam Curry: We need a new
sheriff in town. Oh, I know.
Let's bring in Sheriff Harris.
She'll fix it all for us, my
goodness,
John C Dvorak: but she actually
kept there was a, I mean, the
Tulsi Gabbard slam against her,
which is probably, we have a
clip of it. She mentioned that
she wouldn't some guys were
supposed to get out of jail, and
she kept them in there to get
them in so they could do slave
labor with them? Yeah, yeah.
Once a slave owner, always a
slave owner.
Adam Curry: We're just reporting
it. People don't hate the
players hate the game.
John C Dvorak: So we can talk a
little bit about about
Adam Curry: claim it. Week. Oh,
how did I miss climate week?
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
was wondering myself.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this is an
important week, another scam of
epic proportions.
John C Dvorak: It's a beauty. I
have two. These are both
promotional. They were on NPR.
Okay, start with the new show
called reveal. This is the this
is a teaser for the show. I
don't have the show because it's
coming up. Is the teaser that
Adam Curry: climate? Climate
teaser? Okay,
Unknown: we want to be the next
Vanguard, the next Blackrock for
the climate conscious consumer,
because we don't believe that
those companies will do what we
need them to do to get us out of
this climate crisis that we're
currently in.
That's next on
Adam Curry: reveal. Well, I like
that the climate conscious
consumer. It's the Triple C
nice,
John C Dvorak: a person that
only exists in few areas of the
world. Yes, California, we have
client, the climate week
promotion from NPR. There are
Unknown: a lot of ways for
humans to both slow the pace of
climate change and adapt to our
new reality. NPR is spending a
week exploring areas where we
can improve
addressing food waste turns out
to be one of the biggest climate
solutions. Of them all
join us. For a look at the
future of food with NPRs, annual
climate solutions week, explore
with us at npr.org/climate
Adam Curry: week, oh, now I
understand why Tedros came out
World Health Organization, yeah,
yeah, yeah. He made a statement
for climate week.
Unknown: Our food systems are
harming the health of people and
planet. Food Systems contribute
to over 30% of greenhouse gas
emissions and account for almost
1/3 of the global burden of
business transforming food
systems is therefore essential
by shifting towards healthier,
diversified and more plant based
diets, plants, if food systems
delivered healthy diets for all,
we could save 8 million lives
per year. Who is committed to
supporting countries?
Adam Curry: I don't know
John C Dvorak: what. How are we
saving lives or creating
Adam Curry: them. If
Unknown: food systems delivered
healthy diets for all, we could
save 8 million lives per year.
Who is committed to supporting
countries to develop and
implement policies to improve
diets and fight climate change?
I'm therefore very pleased that
over 130 countries have signed
the cop 28 UA Declaration on
climate and health, together, we
can protect and promote the
health of both people and
planet.
Adam Curry: Well, let's start
with the Haitians. They're
eating the dogs. All right, stop
eating dogs. Stop eating the
dogs. Oh, boy, there. There's
John C Dvorak: a I don't have
the clip anymore because I just
never got to use it, which is
the guy who comes out says
farming is responsible for all
climate change. We must stop all
farming. Oh, yet they have so
they have a mixed message going
on. Here. They can't seem to get
it together. Here it is. In
fact, there it
Unknown: is. Farming needs to
stop. That's the single biggest
driver of climate change. Oh,
Adam Curry: so farming is the
problem, but we need to eat
plants.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I don't
know where they get in this, but
so my last climate clip is the
one where the bread, eat bread,
bread will solve the problem.
Adam Curry: What if you could
help address climate change by
eating more whole wheat bread?
It is not the biggest solution,
but it might be the tastiest.
No, not brown bread. Mom, here's
100 Burundi explains, oh, Sammy,
you're saving the Earth. It's
Unknown: warm and fragrant at
the Washington State University
bread lab, where a group of
scientists and professional
bakers have gathered to taste
slices of soft, mahogany Brown
100% whole wheat loaf just out
of the oven.
That's the best ever. That is
amazing. That's
Stephen Jones. He's a wheat
breeder and Baker, and until he
retired recently, he led the
bread lab. He wants to help
Americans learn to love whole
wheat, because when wheat gets
turned into white flour. Joan
says the rest of the kernel is
discarded. We could increase the
amount of food that we get per
wheat acre by 30% if we just eat
the whole wheat. Turning more
food grown into food eaten cuts
the climate impact.
Adam Curry: I just want everyone
to know that we can't vote our
way out of this situation, daddy
Trump is not going to fix all of
our problems. We need to kill
the elites. We need to stop the
nonsense and eat them. Eat them.
Yes, we need to eat them. We
need to take a stand and say no,
no, no to your climate change
nonsense. Oh,
John C Dvorak: you're in the
minority. That's the problem.
No, we're
Adam Curry: not in the minority.
It's all it's
John C Dvorak: just so, no,
well, Chris, I'm in California,
so I you're
Adam Curry: in the minority.
Yeah, I'm definitely. And while
we're at it, chop off California
now that earthquake was a good
start. Yeah, it's gonna take a
while. Well, there's gonna be a
big one. It's gonna break off
and float away, and we're not
gonna throw you a life raft.
John C Dvorak: I think it's
going in the other direction.
What California is pushing in
for more.
Adam Curry: I hope not.
John C Dvorak: You know the
there's, if you want. I don't
know if I had a presentation for
this before, but there's a lot
of thinking about, how did the
Rockies form? Because they, they
know how impact. You know, when
you have the tectonic plate
shifts, it creates mountain
ranges. And they're all They're
all accounted for. But except
the Rocky Mountains, can't be
perfectly explained unless you
unless you make the assumption
this is these guys would spend
their time on this stuff, that
when the when the giant one gob
of Earth mass, uh, started
moving away from split off of
Europe and Africa, and started
moving to toward the west. Uh.
That it impacted something that
may have been in the middle of
that giant Pacific Ocean that
another landmass has never been
accounted for, which turns out
to be California, and it rammed
into it with big, solid chunk,
and that's what pushed up the
Rockies, because there's nothing
else that could have possibly
done it, except, yeah, uplift,
Adam Curry: except, God, that's
my that's my story.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
assuming that the nature is set
up to do certain things, and
uplift is one of them. And so
that means that California, and
I'm convinced of this,
California and much, much of the
West, are very where we are is
not part of the big group that
moved over. It was always here,
and it's always been a different
situation. That's why the land
here is somewhat toxic.
Adam Curry: So, yes, exactly.
It's always been a hellscape,
and the land is toxic. It's
John C Dvorak: always been a
hellscape. Traditionally, it's
always on fire. There's a lot of
earthquakes. Yes, and it's
toxic. You can't agriculture.
That's why the wine in Napa
Valley isn't as good as you get
from France. It's just filled
with vinegar. It's got the
Adam Curry: whole place. I'm we
agree 100% Yeah, California is
toxic. It's always on fire.
John C Dvorak: It's always
Adam Curry: been, yes, whatever
happened to breaking off as your
own state over there? I always
thought that was a good idea.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you'd think
that. But you're Texas, you're
Texas, always wants to do that.
So why don't you do it there
first,
Adam Curry: sure
John C Dvorak: you know as your
own country, not only, good
Adam Curry: luck charging your
EV on wind power, and we're not
going to export any oil and gas
to you. We
John C Dvorak: have plenty of
oil and gas here that they
refuse to exploit Exactly,
Unknown: exactly.
John C Dvorak: And now, it turns
out, since my my son in law,
married to Jay, works at
Chevron, oh, one of the biggest
oil refiners on the West Coast.
Adam Curry: Oh, you're a fossil
fuel family. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they're thinking
of shutting down the refinery
completely and moving the whole
thing to Houston, exactly
Adam Curry: the prop in the
Republic of Texas.
John C Dvorak: And, this is and
then we have situations like, I
think there's a we have a clip
here on California gasoline
prices.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, you do,
yeah, I'll play it. Yes. Gas
prices
Unknown: are up nearly $2 more
per gallon across northern
California when compared to the
rest of the country,
California's oil market watchdog
Ty milder attributes this to
refineries going offline for
maintenance without enough
backup supply.
Gas prices in California are
going up at the same time that
national gas prices are going
down.
Governor Gavin Newsom has called
a special legislative session to
require companies to keep more
supplies on hand. Industry
groups have said that could
increase costs by forcing
refiners to keep fuel in storage
and off the market.
Adam Curry: I think is great. We
cut off California. You keep
your social media companies keep
Silicon Valley. We can use
Android. We don't need iPhones.
John C Dvorak: Just keep all
that comes out of California
too,
Unknown: Google, yeah, but
Adam Curry: we don't need to buy
Google. It's we have open source
Android. We're just going to use
open source over here. Y'all, I
John C Dvorak: have to mention
something about the California
this is a this is a blooming
problem, and the Democrats are
too stupid to figure it. Figure
it out, they've changed. The
problem with California gasoline
is that some years ago, somebody
pointed this out to me, and I
was bitching about the taxes on
the gasoline. And Chevron is one
of the companies that makes
gasoline for California. And I
say for California because the
gasoline blend for California is
different than the entire rest
of the country. Oh, it's a low
smog version. It's got some some
stuff in it. I don't know
exactly what the makeup is, but
there's work.
Adam Curry: Does it work? Well,
John C Dvorak: it's gasoline. It
works fine. You know, the people
don't realize that gasoline is a
blend of just this of witches
brew of explosive chemicals that
are all mixed up with all kinds
of volatiles in there, like
butane, and there's all kinds of
weird stuff in gasoline. But
it's not the same. From tank to
tank, you're always running
different stuff through but
California has to have some some
elements of something or other
in their gas, supposedly to
lower pollution, and it's nobody
else makes this gas, except a
couple of refineries. And so if
Chevron moves to Houston that we
won't have enough gasoline to do
anything. That's why I think
they're trying to move everyone
to electric cars here in
California faster than. Anybody
else, but then we haven't got
it's a mess. It's a ridiculous,
mismanaged, corrupt state,
Adam Curry: and it's toxic,
John C Dvorak: and it is toxic
too. Yeah, you have to deal with
that. Now, I have one other clip
from California, since we're on
the topic, yeah, now they want
to do a I legislation first in
the country? Yes. Okay, I don't
know what this legislation is
going to do, but this is going
to be a huge problem for Newsom,
because he doesn't know what to
do about this. And this is the
clip. Is a I Kelly, California
Unknown: Governor Gavin Newsom
is considering whether to sign
or veto an artificial
intelligence bill and pierce
Bobby Allen reports the measure
of past would be the strictest
AI regulations in the country.
The AI Bill has fiercely divided
the tech industry. Supporting
it, AI researchers who warn
about the societal risks of the
technology. It also has won the
support from Ai startup
anthropic and Elon Musk, but
opposing the bill are chatgpt,
maker open AI high profile
venture capitalists and AI
startup founders, they say the
regulations would slow
innovation and allow other
countries to leapfrog the US and
AI development criticism of the
bill did lead to a softer
version being passed, but it
still requires AI companies to
conduct safety tests and
requires firms to be able to
enable a kill switch if AI
systems go rogue, there are no
federal laws regulating AI in
the US, Governor Newsom has
until september 30 to act on the
bill.
Adam Curry: Well, finally, Elon
Musk has done I was about to
send him back to California, but
we'll keep him now, if he's
supporting bogus Legislation in
California,
John C Dvorak: that's true. You
have to have a kill switch, and
you have to have testing. I
don't know what this testing is.
What do you how do you test? You
know, algorithms like this and
and who's going to enforce these
laws? That's the other thing
that you need an enforcement
department, which is really
expensive. This is prep bull
crap, and I think you should be.
I'm surprised that you're
Adam Curry: that I'm not all
over it.
Unknown: Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you're the AI
hater of the two of us. I am.
Adam Curry: I am the AI hater.
Have you? Have you seen the
latest that they're doing with
with AI? Maybe? There it's
notebook LM is what it's called.
Don't know it so notebook LM, I
guess, is some kind of it's like
a closed loop AI system, so you
can put in documents that that
only you care about, and then
you can do AI stuff with it,
whatever that means,
John C Dvorak: query it.
Probably, yeah.
Adam Curry: You could, yeah. You
can query it. But now they have
an extra I'm looking for it. I
thought I had a link. I think I
do. Now you can put in an extra
thing, and you can say, make a
podcast out of these documents,
which, by the way, if it was any
good, I would be all for it, but
it makes these, let me see, oh,
man, I hope I have this here. It
makes a podcast. Yes, yes, it
makes a podcast. Okay, so this,
in this case, this guy put in
100,000 word document of like
random nothing, of random text
titled it patent, dot text, gave
it to the notebook and listen.
So this thing that makes a
podcast, by the way,
John C Dvorak: you know, I want
to stop you here and say, I
really, uh, admire the fact that
you are, you act. You are the
pod file. You keep track of
everything that has anything to
do with podcasting at the most
minute level. I never heard of
this.
Adam Curry: Somebody has to
protect the medium.
John C Dvorak: And that's
actually the way you see it.
Yes. Funny,
Adam Curry: yes, I do here.
Listen, so we've got another
head scratcher this week. These,
Unknown: these patent files you
sent in had me a little bit
stumped. I gotta say, yeah, it's
we've got a bunch of text files,
okay, all named patent, but with
these little numbers tacked on,
right, patent to patent for that
kind of thing. Interesting. And
I open these things up. Why
John C Dvorak: is that
interesting?
Adam Curry: This? This is what
is that interesting? This is
what the AI thinks a podcast
should sound like between two
people. Oh, this is the podcast
we're listening to. Yes, you're
listening to the podcast. This
is an
John C Dvorak: dipshit. These
are fake voices, yes. And so we
have a guy, and this is, like a
typical, this is, like fashioned
after NPR, some guy, exactly,
and a dipshit woman who's going,
yeah, oh, some moron, yes. And
okay, now I'm interested
basically
Adam Curry: pivot the pivot
podcast. Please start
John C Dvorak: it over. Okay.
Okay, so another
Unknown: head scratcher this
week. These, these patent files
you sent in had me a little bit
stumped. I gotta say, yeah, it's
we've got a bunch of text files,
okay, all named patent, but with
these little numbers tacked on,
right, right, patent to patent
for that kind of thing,
interesting. And I open these
things up, and it's just line
after line of binary. Oh, wow,
ones and zeros, as far as the I
can see. Okay, so that's our
challenge. Today. We are diving
headfirst into the world of,
Adam Curry: well, binary code.
Now I think that what I like
about this particular AI is it
adds the UHS and the ums to it.
But for some reason, the podcast
format has to be someone taking
the lead on talking and the
other someone going, Oh yeah,
yay, right, yeah, shoot. Let's
do get let's do it. Do it
Unknown: to see if we can crack
this code to figure out what in
the world is going on.
Absolutely so before we get too
far, I think it might be
helpful, sure, for some of our
listeners to do a little bit of
a binary one,
John C Dvorak: hold on. She's a
little too this is a they gotta
tone. They gotta turn her down a
little bit. She's She's, it
every phrase just she's throwing
a bit in there. It's like, oh,
ah, yeah. There's too much of
that. They gotta fix that. Hey,
unfixable.
Adam Curry: I'm looking looking
forward to the day when we just
throw a bunch of clips and and
and show notes stories into a
bin, and then I stay in bed on
Thursday and Sunday and the show
is just the show, just
Unknown: the very basics. What
are we even talking about when
we say binary code, right?
So at its simplest, binary is
really just a way of
representing
Adam Curry: now they're gonna
switch roles. She's talking and
he's gonna do the Oh yeah,
really, oh yeah. She's
Unknown: using only two options,
okay, so instead of our 10
digits, like we use in our
everyday lives, you know, zero
through nine, right, right.
Binary uses just zero and one.
Got
it those two
digits, that's all we need to
build even the most complex
information. So
it's kind of like a light
switch, exactly. It's either on
or off. That's it one or zero to
Adam Curry: kill myself. Now.
John C Dvorak: Okay, stop. Yes.
Clip of the Day. Well,
Adam Curry: thank you. I What
this? It wasn't even intended to
put it on the list today, but
I'll take
John C Dvorak: it unbelievable,
yeah, but I like the kibitzing,
the constant never ending, not
like we do. I interrupt each
other, kind of in a different
way to stop things, but it's but
this is always encouraging. All
right?
Unknown: Oh yes, okay,
John C Dvorak: oh yeah, good,
yeah. Like, interesting,
Adam Curry: yeah, very good.
Keep going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is why I have no fear of AI
at all.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my food
by donating to
no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun.
Adam Curry: Well, we do have a
bunch of AI donations which have
come in, which is all automatic.
It comes from PayPal. We've
programmed it so that it just
sends money to us from your
PayPal account. Thank you very
much. It even adds little notes,
and sometimes we'll read them
$50 and above. Right now, we
thank all of these. Producer AIS
for supporting the best podcast
in the universe. John, take us
through them. First
John C Dvorak: of all, I'd like
to say I've heard worst
podcasts.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the AI and on
Tiktok. Yes, we have, we have
Lucas
John C Dvorak: Williams starts
us off, and he is in the
fabulous town of Roswell, New
Mexico. Yeah, 100 bucks. Uh,
Debbie hyphen, oh, what do you
think heifer hyphen ish, maybe,
yeah, maybe in spring Texas, she
came in with 100 but she has a
little thing I want to say she
wrote this is because John is
nagging online. I do love the
shows, and should probably
donate more often. Don't let
them eat the cats. Be a theme
forever. There you go. Adriana
Marshall in Shrewsbury, UK, a
100 up already. This a very
short list. Kevin McLaughlin,
808. He's the Archduke of Luna,
lover of American boobs, sir
bachaviche in Miami, Florida,
6776 is for his daughter,
Josephine. Maybe a switcheroo,
not sure. Uh, circus media, the
Baron of Bozeman, in Bozeman, of
all places, Montana, 6180, and
is a happy birthday to you.
Adam. Oh, thank you.
Adam Curry: Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Uh. David
Weicker, wicker, Jackson wicker,
wicker,
Adam Curry: that's served by His
grace at. Yeah, you mispronounce
his name every single time, and
it irks him. But
John C Dvorak: I can say, keep
saying wicker. Would
Adam Curry: you keep saying
Wiker? Weicker?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Weicker. I
had this. It's a I can kind of,
I think it's because it was a
congressman or somebody named
Weicker that I can't get it out
of my head. Okay. Well, you're
excited. He's got another Happy
birthday to you. 6006 he's in
Jacksonville, Florida. Robin, no
Adam Curry: no, wait, no wait.
He has a happy birthday for his
dad, his dad, who turned 83 on
911 best dad ever. Thank God for
great fathers. They make all the
difference. That's what he says.
John C Dvorak: Robin Tolbert in
Topeka, Kansas, 60 another.
Happy birthday to you. This is
dragging on. Yeah. David in
coming Georgia, 5809 Christopher
dector In Parts Unknown, 5678
these are all $50 donations,
basically. Uh, well, that's kind
of a high no as much No. That's
that's not okay, right? No.
Ronald mills in Florence, South
Carolina, 5345 that sounds like
a 50 mark. Hardwick in Alito,
Texas, 5333 Lydia Terry
dominelli, 53 A Silent Night
zero. Picorillo, picarillo, or
picture RELO one of the two in
Hendersonville, North Carolina.
5272 answering the call of the
sad puppy. Dame Jan in Athens,
Georgia, and the sad puppy keeps
showing up on Sundays, Dame Jan
in Athens, Georgia, 51 and this
is a note you can read because
it's a Daming.
Adam Curry: Yes, we go, dear
John and Adam. I've reached
another $1,000 with my bi
monthly donations, and I'm
gifting a dame hood to my
daughter, Sonia for her 18th
birthday. Also added to the
birthday list for Wednesday,
September 18, she's on it.
Please Knight her or Dame her,
simply Dame Sonia. And for the
round table, please add Maryland
steamed shrimp and lobster
tails, nice, if at all possible.
Add to the end of show mixes the
Beatles parody. You know, you
know, since she used to sing it
around the house after it first
aired, it was my first real
introduction to the show. Also
happy birthday to dad, Joe,
turning 51 on September 20. This
is from Dane Jen, and since it's
only 20 seconds long, instead of
adding it to the end, I'll play
it now. Yeah, no, yeah, no,
yeah, no, you're saying yeah,
you'll say no, yeah, no, yeah,
no, you know, yeah, no,
Unknown: I don't know why you're
saying yeah, while saying
John C Dvorak: no, yeah, no,
yeah, no, yeah,
Unknown: no, I don't know why
you're saying yeah while saying
no, yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, yeah, no,
yeah, no, yeah, no, you
Adam Curry: Know a classic,
classic jingle.
John C Dvorak: It is a classic
onwards story, economic hit man
in tumble, Texas, 5001 and now
we got the $50 donors. I'll
start and just name a location.
I'll start with Brandon Savoy
and port orchard, Washington.
Jared yaw in Nashville,
Tennessee. Dame Patricia
Worthington is still with us.
And she's in Miami, Florida.
Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
Texas. Kevin dills in
Huntersville, North Carolina.
Diane back in johnsburg,
Illinois. Michael Thompson in
new brown fells, Texas, bronze.
Oh, yeah, I turned Braunfels,
yeah, Braunfels is he used to
make a great product. There a
barbecue pit. It was the Hondo.
Adam Curry: Hondo was another
town nearby
John C Dvorak: my and then they
stopped. So now you gotta it was
such a great product. Michael
peratch in Salem, Oregon, North
Stonington, Connecticut, gives
us easy landscapes. Philip
Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park,
Alberta, sir. Chris Carl Vogler.
Vogler in Dillon Beach,
California, sir. Jerry wing and
Roth in Saugus, California. And
last on the list is Dame Tracy
and Sir cane break in St George,
Louisiana. I want to thank these
people for helping us finish off
and complete show 1695. Five
shows away from show 1700 1700
Adam Curry: shows. And coming up
in October, our 17th anniversary
running at value for value we
cannot thank you enough for the
value you return, time, talent
and treasure. Thank you to
everyone who came in under $50
anonymity always assured under
50, and of course, our
sustaining donations, we
recommend everybody do that to
keep the show going through the
slower periods by going to no
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you can set your own amount and
frequency that you'd like to
donate. There's no other levels
or firewalls or paywall
firewall. The premium content is
upfront, and it's all there for
you to enjoy, whether you
support us or not. But if you're
still listening, what are you
doing? Remember us at no agenda,
donations.com. Thank you again.
Very, very much.
And as we said, David wicker
says Happy Birthday to his dad.
He turned 83 on September 11,
sir, not sure about to become
Viscount, which is his sister,
Dame Marie, a very happy one
that's she celebrated yesterday.
Hans is celebrating on the 17th,
sure, not sure himself, also on
the 17th. Dame Jen says Happy
Birthday to her daughter Sonia,
turning 18 on the 18th, and her
husband Joe turns 51 on
September 20. All Virgos in the
family. Happy Birthday to
everybody here at the best
podcast
in the universe, and coming in
real big with a whole bunch of
threes today, sir, not sure.
Baron of the tri lakes now
become sir. Not sure vi count of
the tribe tri lakes. And we
thank him very much for his
incredibly generous donation.
Follow his example. Be like Sir,
not sure the Viscount of tri
lakes. And we really appreciate
that you did that for us. We
have a layaway noting knighting
from Hans, who says ITM John and
I don't let me be clear, I've
finally reached knighthood with
a $4 weekly donation since
february 14, 2020, and a one
time donation of 5333, my dream
of joining the roundtable has
arrived. Living in New York City
is sometimes like participating
in absurdist theater, but it's
the business I've chosen
specifically. My business is
that of a performing musician.
For any jazz fans out there,
I'll shamelessly plug my
website, Hans lukes.com that's
H, A, N, S, l, U, C, H, s. Take
a look at that right now. Hans
lukes.com where you can check
out my music, if you like. Oh,
you should get it on
wavelake.com Get it on value for
value. Thanks so much to John
and Adam and the rest of the no
agenda community for producing
the best podcast in the
universe. May you never find an
exit strategy. Oh yes. I'd like
to be knighted, Sir Hans, Knight
of the West Side Highway. I'd
love for some enchiladas, a mole
poblano and a modelo negra et
modela. Do I pronounce that
right? Model Modelo, Modelo,
modelo modelo Negro at the round
table. It is ordered. There's a
lot of good things at the round
table. And thank you very much
for see it works, even the
layaway nights $4 a week for
four years. And he's here at the
round table. He's gonna get one
of those swanky rings. So why
don't we get
John C Dvorak: out? Don't
forget, Kurt. I don't have Kurt.
It's right under this other
note.
Adam Curry: I do not have it. I
don't have Kurt. Oh,
John C Dvorak: do you have Yeah,
I got Curtis right here. Oh, can
you read that? Kurt? Patrick, he
says, Dear John and Adam, I've
been contributing $50 a month in
my layaway night pun since
November, my 20th payment was
made on June 2, and I've yet to
be knighted. Please refer to me
as sir. Say it wrong of ni
naimo. Naimo, I have a scotch
and scallops at the round table.
That's what he wants. Scotch and
scallops
Adam Curry: right on time. Okay,
anything else?
John C Dvorak: No, that's the
end of it. Oh,
Adam Curry: great. I somehow I
missed that. Must have not seen
that in the email. Well, good.
That's why there's two of us.
Thank you very much. Layaway
knights, we are now going to
bring you into that exclusive
cub. Here is a blade. We got
lots of people right here.
That's beautiful, all right? Up
on the round table here, I mean,
up on the podium. We welcome
Janet Webb, we welcome Sonya
Hans, Kirkpatrick, Ryan diazio
And ladies and gentlemen, I am
very proud to pronounce the KV
as Dame Janet of TP Wyoming,
Dame Sonia Sir Hans, Knight of
the West Side Highway, sir say
it wrong of the Nymo sir. Ryan
dizzio, knight who couldn't give
a single duck for you? We have
hookers and blow rent poison,
Chardonnay, spaghetti and
carbonara and a bottle of 2016
Brunello Chilean sea bass and a
2121 Gabe degave Cortis
Maryland, steam shrimp and
lobster tail, enchiladas and
mole pobano and modelo Negro and
scotch and scallops. And can I
just please fit the mutton and
meat in there? There's a lot of
the Round Table. I don't think
we've ever had a feast like
this. Congratulations to the
five of you. Go over to no
agenda rings.com. You can see
the handsome and beautiful night
and Dame ring that we have on
display there. It's a signet
ring. So not only do you get
this ring sized to your finger,
there's a handy ring sizing
guide there. So. Send that to us
with an address. It comes with
wax to seal your important
correspondence, and, as always,
a certificate of authenticity. A
great day for the show, when we
can welcome so many Knights and
Dames to the round table.
Congratulations.
Yeah, yeah. I'm excited about
that October 18 meetup in
Fredericksburg. We've never had
a Fredericksburg meetup. It'll
be a home game. Home Game. Very
excited. People have already
apparently called over to the
full moon in and they're coming
from Pennsylvania, of course,
lots of people coming from
Austin, but they're already
calling and checking and I think
they may have an in there. I
think you could even stay there.
So curry and the keeper will be
there in the house. It'll be
exciting. Couple of meetup
reports. Here's a where we have
three of them. First one from
Sonoma, the Wino country, the
Wino country meet up. This
Unknown: is Brian from work.
We're here at the Sonoma County
Wino country meet up here at Old
Kaz beer. Everyone knows it
takes a lot of beer to make good
wine, and so that's why we're
trying all that beer. This is
Sir Rick
Halston, crazy Steve the second,
and after this party, we're all
going back to my house for a
Haitian barbecue
wannabe gonna be Dame Linda of
the Shire. No agenda meet ups.
Makes life fun again. Captain
Luke loving my local brew pub.
Hey, this is Jason. First time,
long time listener, and I check
with the city manager here in
rohner Park, and there's no cats
on the menu. This
dude named Ben, named Ben Duke
of San Francisco. I've
escaped the fog today for this
lovely of low facts, no agenda,
meetups,
golf winch from Rohnert Park
California, changing Harris for
Biden. It's kind of like crap in
your pants and then changing
your shirt. Connection is
protection. I'm
Sean, longtime listener, June,
Adam Curry: and we have two
reports from Indiana, Fort
Wayne, first,
Unknown: Adam and John. This is
Shannon helping host in Fort
Wayne. We had a great turnout.
We did not sing karaoke, and my
kale salad tasted like crap.
This is Mike from Fort Wayne in
the morning.
This is Ryan from St Joe's my
first meetup. This is great
time. Nice to meet Shannon and
Mike. Hope we have a better
turnout next time, get to meet
more lovely people in this crazy
area in the morning. This
is Haley, great people in the
morning. All
Adam Curry: right, in the
morning to all of you. And then
the final report comes from our
big group there in Greenwood,
the indie meetup. Always a lot
of people, probably about 100
This
Unknown: is day Maria and Sir
Mark, a wonderful day here in
needy to have in your Meetup.
And
it's so nice out here, except it
might be getting a little warmer
due
to climate change. Hey, this
is Emily the Fed, not a fed and
hot take. I
just don't like Kamala Harris.
Please don't vote for her.
Y'all, oh, Emily, was that
really necessary? Risky here in
the morning? Hey, it's
Annette Miller. I'm so excited.
I won the cash today. It's only
my second donation, though, but
I'm not a douchebag. I buy at
least 20 bucks worth of raffle
tickets every time I go to a
meetup, and somebody else gets
the donation someday, a dame in
the
morning, John and Adam. This is
Nick. I survived the fever and
colts traffic. Adam, the fever
and Colts are sports teams.
What a wonderful meet up today.
I think everyone here is my
friend. If I have anything to
say about it,
in the morning, this
is Kyra from Carmel. Just want
to thank all of Joe agenda
nation for getting out that
vote. Don't forget to vote. AC,
JD, in the morning, with AI self
hypnosis. Mud club. Tom not from
Carmel. This is Archduke Quinn
from the Zionsville Highlands.
I do believe 100% Google Gaga
in the morning. Adam and John.
This is Shannon visiting from
Fort. Wayne. These new cough
lozenges from ISIS, our great
Hezbollah in the morning.
Dave Trinity, having a great
time in Indy, as always. Thank
you for your courage
in the morning, John and Amster
PBR street gang, Adam, please
step stop and steep Yeah, stop,
yes. Stop stepping all over the
bat. Lady, Hi,
I'm Lindsay.
I am a server at prodigy burger.
I work today and serve for the
no agenda group. They're a great
group. I'm kind of interested to
listen to the podcast. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You know, when the
proverbial shit hits the fan, I
want to be an indie. That's
where you got some protection,
because that's the connection
that no agenda. Meet up to bring
you. You should try one. It's
like, it's like, Pringles. You
can't stop you'll keep wanting
to go on. You'll meet new
friends, children from other
lands. It's going to be great,
particularly today we have the
seafood in Sangria meet up. You
probably are already there. It's
at Harry's seafood Bar and Grill
in St Augustine, Florida. The
two hot Tucson meetup will kick
off at four o'clock at Canyon's
crown in Tucson, Arizona. The.
In September, meet up 630 this
evening. Oh, I'm sorry, Thursday
at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, and also on
Thursday, Charlotte's thirsty
Third Thursday monthly meet up
seven o'clock at edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina. So
many meetups are now being like
it's meetup season for some
reason, all over the world, from
the Netherlands to Scandinavia,
to Down Under, to well all over
the states, here in America. And
of course, one more plug for
that October 18 Fredericksburg,
Texas meetup. Looking forward to
see y'all there. Go to no agenda
meetups.com. If you can't find
one on the calendar near you,
start one yourself. It's easy
and always a party. Sometimes
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with all the nights and days.
It's like
a
Adam Curry: party. How many, how
many ISOs Do you have?
John C Dvorak: None? You
Adam Curry: got none. Yeah,
well, what are you phoning it in
today,
John C Dvorak: I forgot.
Adam Curry: How could you
forget?
John C Dvorak: I did,
Unknown: all right.
Adam Curry: Well, I have, I
luckily, I'm over isoed, yeah,
John C Dvorak: there was a
sense. I had a sense I could
feel it. I could feel it. Luke,
feel it.
Adam Curry: Okay, Luke, here we
go, ghetto b word there's one.
No, this is
Unknown: exciting. I like that.
I do believe it's possible.
John C Dvorak: No, I want to
thank you for your courage.
Adam Curry: And the final one,
preposterous and weird. Hmm. No,
no, you like the hill dog?
Unknown: This is exciting. Yeah.
Adam Curry: All right, Hill dog
on deck. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, it's time for your
favorite part of the show,
John's Tip of the Day. Green
bass for you
Unknown: and me. Just I
Adam Curry: don't everyone's
excited to find out what the
last tip of the day was. Great.
We have increased Costco stock
by Costco is is loving us. What
do you have for us? John,
John C Dvorak: oh, this is gonna
this time, it's gonna be Amazon.
You know how we used to drink
tea when you lived in England,
but you don't do it anymore. I'm
still a fan of PG Tips, which is
the English everyday drinking
tea, yeah, but I drink a lot of
green tea, but green tea,
depending on where you get, is
really expensive, and I have
found a kind of a PG, tips of
green tea, besides things like
gunpowder, this is just a very
specific green tea. You get a
pound of it for 13 bucks. And
it's like, you use a for a big
pot, you use like, Don't you
have to be careful to use, like
a kind of a level teaspoon,
maybe because this stuff just
blows up into all the full
leaves. And it's a tea that
sells for 13 bucks, for 16
ounces. It's called Tian hushan
T I A n, H, U, S, H, A N. It's
also called Yin Hao, y, I N, H,
A, W, right from China. It is, I
just drink to stuff like crazy.
It is a, it is an outstanding
just drink, drink, drink
product, and you do it, and you
also double pour into it. And
the second pouring, which is the
Chinese do all the time.
Americans don't do it. In other
words, you make your tea, and
then you pour off the finished
green tea, and then you pour
another batch of water into the
used leaves. And in China, they
think this is the better part of
the of the of the batches, the
second pouring is better we
need. In this case, I don't even
see the difference. It's almost
like at the same you just
doubled the amount. It's, I
don't know how long it's going
to take to get through the 16
ounces. Is this
Adam Curry: might take years a
small batch. The this, this
producer, this
John C Dvorak: all in Chinese. I
have no idea if it's small
batch.
Adam Curry: I think, you know,
you need to do a web page with
these tips of the day. So people
kind of think we're going to
have to do that. Yeah, get Jay
on the case. She's good at that.
Well, actually, we
John C Dvorak: may have some
volunteers out there. I was
asking for some volunteers for a
couple of things, and maybe
there's somebody out there that
can do some coding, or somebody
produce I like somebody can just
make a list of the tips that
we've done, some summaries that
would be good. What I would I
need somebody could do a PHP
server for me, so I can do my
own mailing product, own mailing
list. Oh, this
Adam Curry: is a very bad idea.
What that is a very bad idea to
do your own mailing list,
server, very, very bad idea.
John C Dvorak: There is a good
product out there that has
everything but the server
product is
Adam Curry: not the problem.
Them, it's the white listing
these companies that you use,
and I would actually say
substack is probably better
these days, they have been
whitelisted with all of the big
email providers, mainly Gmail,
and they have to pay a VIG we've
been through. I understand that,
yes. So if you, if you just show
up as no agenda@dvorak.org
you're going to get blocked
everywhere because you're not
paying the fee. So I recommend
against this. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, I'd still
like to experiment. No, it's Oh,
Adam Curry: rough times ahead.
Tears will come. Tears will
come. That's it, ladies and
gentlemen. Are you looking
Unknown: for good advice?
Perhaps something practical or
something you really need try
the new agenda. Tip of the day,
professional quality tips from
the best podcast in the
universe.
Adam Curry: There it is no lie.
Professional quality tips from
the best podcast in the
universe. You heard it here. I
wish we had a our tea supplier
in Portugal. He passed away.
Unfortunately, I'd love it.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, that's too
bad. Yeah, he didn't. He was
really into a permitted tease.
He didn't have too much green
tea.
Adam Curry: Well, he had no
agenda teas, which was just kind
of cool. Just love that, love
that idea. We still have some of
that. We've got our coffee guy.
Eli. Just need a tea guy. Maybe
Eli can expand on the way. We've
got end of show mixes from David
kekta Sir TJ, the raffle and the
clip custodian himself. Neil
Jones checks in. That's nice.
Always love it when he has a mix
and coming up next on the
stream, no agenda stream.com,
trollroom.io, and your modern
podcast app is the podcasting
2.0 board meeting for this week
titled helpful little wizard. So
you can stay tuned for that,
learn about the latest
podcasting coming to you from
the heart of the Texas Hill
Country, home of the meetup on
October 18, Fredericksburg,
Texas, FEMA Region number 16 The
Morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's
foggy, I'm John C Dvorak. We
Adam Curry: return on Thursday
with another deconstruction of
your media. Meet us there and
remember us at no agenda.
Donations.com, until then,
adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey and
such. They're eating the dogs.
We
Unknown: know that the companies
and we're seeing some of the
comments from Elon Musk
overnight, so they see
themselves above the law, and
the Australian law here should
apply equally in the real world
as it does online. As Phil was
pointing out before, you would
be sued for defamation, and you
would be taken before the courts
under various acts for
publishing some of that which
freely flows on the internet.
And there's an age verification
regime, which has been
recommended by the Safety
Commissioner from 2023 we think
that's something the government
should pick up. Well, this is a
very dark day in Australia's
history, ladies and gentlemen,
because this week respected work
and other matters. Amendment
Bill 2024 was passed in
Queensland Parliament. What does
this mean for you? Well, from
now on, we're going to have the
police our thoughts and our
speech very carefully on social
media. Here's why, any post made
on social media now is deemed by
this bill to be a public act.
And any public act found
offensive by a reasonable person
of the minority community that
it describes is then chargeable
under Section 52 A of the
Criminal Code, and these charges
carry a maximum sentence of
three years in jail time. These
are truly unprecedented times.
25 years in the parliament, I've
never seen legislation like him.
This is not the country I grew
up in, and is heading in
direction that I fear for future
generations.
Kamala DeVille. Kamala Deville,
if her cackle, don't scare you.
Her policies, well, your unborn
child, she would gladly kill
Kamala. Is horrible. Still,
Adam Curry: this is rarely
brought up, and it's true, and
these people are demonic in that
way. This chick, I'm saying,
chick, called a DC District of
Columbia clinic, and she
recorded it. I'm
Unknown: looking to have an
abortion. I'm 34
right now,
Adam Curry: eight months. An
Unknown: abortion at any stage
is actually much safer than
delivering a term pregnancy. You
do what we call the fetal
injection. We'll assist you in
sort of pushing in the induction
and then remove all of the
product of conception,
Adam Curry: the product of
conception, it is true. Of
course it's true, but people
need to hear that. That's this
is sickening, but this is
Unknown: what they have done to
our country by allowing these
millions and millions of people,
people can't go out and buy
cereal or bacon or eggs or
anything else. The people of our
country are absolutely dying.
They're eating the dog. People
that came in, they're eating the
cats. My dogs been taken my dogs
so they've destroyed the economy
in Springfield. They're eating
the pets of the people that live
there. You people, millions and
millions of people, people.
It's bad, you know?
This is exciting. You.