September 19th, 2024 • 3h 19m
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John C Dvorak: Hey babe, just
give me a call on my page. I'll
meet you.
Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, it's Thursday,
Adam Curry: September 19, 2024
this year, award winning. Give
our nation media assassination
Episode 1696,
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: finding our freakoff
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas. No country
here in FEMA Region, number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And for Northern
Silicon Valley, where everybody
agrees it's Trump's fault. I'm
John C Dvorak
Unknown: buzzkill in the
morning.
Adam Curry: I love the the nose
blow was pretty good. Well.
Timed, yeah.
John C Dvorak: Timed. Well,
Adam Curry: hey. I've got good
news and bad news.
Unknown: Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Shall I give
you the bad news first?
John C Dvorak: As long as the
good news isn't quote, that's
all the bad news. There is no
no.
Adam Curry: The bad news is
World War Three is underway. The
good news, it's asymmetrical
warfare. It's drones and
devices. This is a no one
expected this. We all thought
nukes like, oh, it's going to be
nuclear. No, no. This is, I
mean, it's, first of all, it's
humorous. Second, it's obviously
John C Dvorak: very, very sick,
very sick way. It's a very sick
way is humorous. It's very sad,
of course.
Adam Curry: I wonder how many
people really want to still
upgrade to the iPhone 16 at this
point. It gives you, gives you
some things to think about
John C Dvorak: not feeling
really good about the phone in
the drawer. Or,
Adam Curry: how about your Icom
or bell Fang, you know, these
are not good devices to have
anymore. Or, apparently your
solar installation. This is
here's TRT, who I think have
been doing the best reporting on
this.
Unknown: Lebanon has been rocked
by a second wave of blasts, this
time linked to handheld radios.
Smoke rises in Ceylon in South
Lebanon. It's just one of
multiple blasts in different
parts of the country, including
here at this phone shop. The new
wave of explosions comes a day
after 1000s of pages used by
Hezbollah members exploded,
killing a dozen people and
wounding 1000s. At least one of
the blasts took place near a
funeral held for several people
who were killed on Tuesday in
Beirut. Here, ambulance forced
to break up mourners. Two solar
panel systems have reportedly
exploded, leading to small fires
that were extinguished.
Hospitals are inundated, and the
public have been called on to
give blood.
Adam Curry: This is incredible.
Solar installations, handheld
radios, pagers. This is this is
some this is new. This was not
expected.
John C Dvorak: It wasn't
expected, but it hasn't been
tested. Well, in 96 they
actually killed some guy with a
cell phone.
Adam Curry: Well, we've had that
actually. I went back and looked
in our archives. It wasn't quite
the same, but we we were joking
about it. Then, if you remember,
do you remember this jingle? I
Unknown: The
Adam Curry: laptop of doom. You
remember that? No, I don't. It
was a it was, let me see episode
797, I think this was goodness.
This is a long time ago. I
pulled the clip, but they also
found the laptop that was
responsible for it. Very, very
worried
Unknown: is that the device that
investigators believe was the
explosive device was actually a
laptop.
Adam Curry: You know, as you
know what's coming an
Unknown: explosive device either
inside the laptop, or it was
needed a laptop, so
Adam Curry: it was inside the
laptop. But this, this is like
mi six CIA Mossad level
Unknown: stuff, definitely.
Adam Curry: France 24 had I
found the best report of tracing
back the pagers. I really looked
around and everybody had
something. And, you know, I love
John C Dvorak: where they take
it to oh, well,
Unknown: listen the simultaneous
explosions of 1000s of Hezbollah
pagers and other communication
devices raised many questions,
and some of those are starting
to get answers on the method
used. A Lebanese security
official told the AFP that
explosives were inserted in the
devices, P, E, N T, this
material is very powerful yet
relatively easy to conceal. It's
believed a few grams of Petn
were integrated along with a
circuit board into the pager.
The model used is an AR nine to
four from Taiwanese brand Golda
Polo. The company immediately
denied being involved. It says.
A factory based in Budapest. BAC
consulting was authorized to
manufacture the pagers, but
there is no factory nor
warehouse at the company's
address. The Hungarian
government confirms BAC is a
trading intermediary with no
manufacturing or operational
site in Hungary the quote
reference devices have never
been in Hungary, the company
created two years ago, has one
employee, its general manager.
The walkie talkies that were
targeted on Wednesday had the
logo of a Japanese brand, I come
but the company said it stopped
producing the model 10 years
ago. As far as who is behind
these attacks, the operating
mode and the target point to one
country, Israel, although it has
not claimed responsibility. Now,
Adam Curry: that's pretty deep,
man, well,
John C Dvorak: I've heard all
that, but I still don't see why
it all points to Israel. Well,
because, I mean, I think it was
real too. But where's the
evidence the
Adam Curry: Jews are responsible
for everything? What are you
talking about? We know this.
John C Dvorak: I think I'm just
not saying unless they come up
with something a little more
substantial than these, you
know, non existent factory. I
have two clips from NTD on this
that might be doesn't really add
anymore, but it's a different
perspective slightly for
Unknown: the second day,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry
Unknown: for the second day in a
row, explosions ripped across
Lebanon as Hezbollah's handheld
radios exploded. At least 14
people were killed and hundreds
were injured. Entity's Jason
Perry has city tells,
chaos filled the streets of
Lebanon for a second day in a
row as another wave of
electronic devices exploded
throughout the country. This
time, Hezbollah two way radios
exploded, killing at least 14
people and injuring more than
450 according to Lebanon's
health ministry, a Lebanese
Doctor shared his experience
taking care of the injured.
Adam Curry: Of course, since
patients began arriving
Yesterday, we saw the extent of
the damage and wounds. We were
working nonstop. I took my first
break after 5am here in the
office, and now I came back in
the morning,
Unknown: and an electronic store
owner in Lebanon shared his
concerns about not knowing what
could happen next.
We had some devices
here that we believed were 100%
safe, but out of caution, we
removed them from the store
because we got worried.
A Lebanese woman said she was
not shaken by the second day of
explosions throughout the
country.
For sure, we are not afraid. We
are devoted to the leader of
Hezbollah in Lebanon, and we
stand with the resistance.
Everything happening now is
nothing compared to what we are
willing to endure for him, my
family, my children and my
husband
are all devoted to him.
Israel has not claimed
responsibility, but many think
it's behind the recent
explosions in Lebanon, Israel's
defense minister said this on
Wednesday, you'll do I think
that when you look at the
current picture, the Israel
Defense Forces have made
excellent achievements together
with the Shin Bet Security
Service and the Mossad with all
Their units and organizations,
and the results are very
impressive.
Adam Curry: I think that kind of
implies that they did it or
taking credit for it,
John C Dvorak: that, you know,
Unknown: but I don't know about
it. I
John C Dvorak: don't see this
being much of a problem. And
then there's this woman going on
about the dedication to the head
of Hezbollah is always a God,
which is something screwy. Yeah.
This is a very interesting
development, I have to say, this
played part two of this. He also
Unknown: said the war is
entering a new phase, and that
Israel is now shifting its focus
to the Lebanese border. Also, on
Wednesday, the Israeli Air Force
struck several Hezbollah targets
in southern Lebanon. Nearly
100,000 residents in northern
Israel have been displaced from
their homes because of the
attacks from the Iran backed
Hezbollah terrorist group. On
Wednesday, Israel's Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said
Israel will return the citizens
of the North to their home
safely.
Oh, hmm,
Adam Curry: I doubt that this
will end anything and notice
we've would it? No, we've
completely shifted away from
Gaza. Gaza just is no longer
important. Now it's Lebanon. You
know that, of course, is the is
the shifting of the focus,
because there's nothing left to
do in Gaza. I think everyone's
dead and everything's bombed
out. Nothing left. You know,
good luck with the hostages,
John C Dvorak: the hell of them.
Adam Curry: So. So the next
thing that, when you know, if
everyone's interested in is, so
where did this conversion take
place? Which, you know, is
somewhere along. A very vast
supply chain
Unknown: in Taipei, reporters
and TV crews piled into the
office of gold Apollo, the
Taiwanese tech company first
linked to those pagers. The
company's president su Qing Quan
insists his firm didn't supply
the devices he pointed instead
to a Hungarian company licensed
to use the gold Apollo brand.
Hungarian officials say the
pagers were never in that
country, as for those walkie
talkies that blew up today, the
radios were reportedly marked
made in Japan. But some experts
caution you should
look at the entire chain of the
vendors Oleg brought
is a cyber security researcher
at Israel's Ben Gurion
University. He says electronics
manufacturing involves several
components, and the vendor of
any one part could have been
infiltrated. Look at every
stage of the chain, and think
about who can get compromised,
whether it's the battery
manufacturer, whether it's the
assembly facility, whether it's
the shipping Israel's
defense minister didn't claim
responsibility, but praised the
country's army and security
agencies, saying their results
are very impressive.
Adam Curry: So you know more
about this than I do, but these
supply chains, they can be quite
vast for one device, right?
John C Dvorak: Well, the way
it's been set up, you can thank
various people in the tech
industry for this. They've set
up, you know, the just in time
sort of manufacturing that was
developed by HP, I think, and
then affected by Apple, yeah,
you get stuff from all over the
place. It all comes in just in
time, and you put the device
together, you want to inventory
anything, and you can't keep
track of stuff. And so if
somebody could do a man in the
middle exploit, as it were, kind
of symbolically, where you just
take over one of the one of the
aspects of the supply chain, and
you can, but this, these were
old products, like the that I
that radio hasn't been made for
time is old, yeah, yeah. So
there's something, there's
something more sinister, where
they somehow, I think they got a
bunch of gear, put it in some,
some warehouse in the UK, or who
knows where, and then slipped it
through the some sort of
channel, because it was best
price. Obviously, there's a best
price aspect about it is
Adam Curry: I got, I got it fell
off the back of the truck,
John C Dvorak: so the Hezbollah
guys, there's maybe even a mole
in Hezbollah itself that
installed these, or installed,
well, I heard it
Adam Curry: recorded somewhere.
I didn't capture it that someone
had figured it out, and so they
blew that guy up first. I mean,
I have no no evidence of this
report, but I recall it like
they blew that guy up. But what
no one's really talking about is
a guy
John C Dvorak: figured it out.
He wouldn't be carrying the
device. So I question that
story, but yeah,
Adam Curry: so I wonder, did
they use I mean, the way these,
these, these pages, are not like
on a on a national pager
network, you know, they're on a
thing. It's a 400 megahertz, and
it's more like for hospitals
which use them. So you you have
a central transmitter which can
reach quite far, maybe even with
some repeaters, to be able to
read all, you know, reach all of
the area. So it, it seems to me,
the easiest way to trigger these
devices would be having your own
transmitter. Wouldn't be it
would just be a burst of
transmission. And that would
kind of explain the Icom radios
too, because they can also
operate on those frequencies,
certainly if they were, and most
icons, I think, are software
defined radios, even 10 year old
ones. So it's, it's just mind
blowing that that, you know,
Hezbollah was going, oh, man, we
can't, we can't have everybody
tracking our cell phones. So
we'll go to this solution. And
that was the thing that did them
in it's crazy to think. And now
I also have to wonder about the
numbers. You know, how many we
don't really know how many
pagers hit, I mean, so there's
over, like 2700 people were
injured, obviously, within the
blast radius of these pagers, I
don't know it's, it's baffling.
For sure. We don't know anything
about it. We have nothing,
nothing. Oh, good information.
John C Dvorak: Here's
Adam Curry: a rear I don't
here's Rear Admiral Kirby
Unknown: Admiral. What's the
White House response to the
exploding walkie talkies
in Lebanon today? I know Karine
addressed the pagers yesterday.
But
what's the latest US assessment,
and
does the US consider this a
justifiable escalation?
I can tell you is we were not
involved
in yesterday's incidents or
today's in any way, and I don't
have anything more to share.
John C Dvorak: So he jumps to
that. Inclusion real quickly.
Adam Curry: We're not involved.
Very
John C Dvorak: suspicious. We're
Adam Curry: not involved. That's
the Hey, Adam,
John C Dvorak: how you doing? I
didn't do it. Hey.
Adam Curry: We're not involved.
We're not involved in
yesterday's incidents
Unknown: or today's in any way.
And I don't have anything more
to share. As the US as
the Israelis let you
know about these operations, I
don't have anything more to
share today. Confirm that it's
the US assessment that the
Israelis were
behind all this year.
Adam Curry: You know that
shouldn't not be acceptable to
the press corps. I have nothing
to share, nothing. So you have
something. You just can't share
it. They okay. I found this,
this clip from t, R t, where
they they say, The United
Nations says one thing about
this, because, of course, they
condemn it. But then the head of
the United United Nations, the
Secretary General, Guterres,
says something completely
different, and quite smugly, I
might say, the
Unknown: first of its kind,
calculated and precise attack
has compromised Hezbollah's
communications. It's being
described as unprecedented and
an act of digital warfare. The
UN says civilian objects should
not be weaponized and warns of
escalation.
Obviously, the
logic of making all these
devices explode is to do it as a
preemptive strike before a major
military operation. Measure. So
as important as the event in
itself, is the indication that
this event confirms that there
is a serious risk of a dramatic
escalation in Lebanon, and
everything must be done to avoid
that escalation.
Adam Curry: So we didn't really
condemn it. In that clip,
John C Dvorak: they just said,
Oh, they were about to begin, I
should mention it. They
Adam Curry: were about to
undertake a measure, measure,
measure, uh, whatever.
John C Dvorak: There was also a
comment in there I thought was
screwy, which was civilian
devices should not be
weaponized. Tell that to car
bombers, yeah, they've been
weaponized forever. Civilian
devices are always weaponized,
just a new, creative way.
Adam Curry: Well, what I take
away from this is, this is the
new this is like the sixth
generation of warfare, the fifth
being psychological operations.
And this is, by itself, a cycle
psychological operation, because
really, nobody can now know if
your device is safe or not.
John C Dvorak: The good news,
yes,
Adam Curry: you don't have one.
John C Dvorak: Besides the good
news for me, because my devices
are all in a drawer downstairs,
but it did blow up the dining
room. The good news is maybe
they'll force manufacturers of
these devices to make sure you
can open them up and take the
battery out. Yeah, that's not
going to happen. It's got to
happen because you don't know
what's in these things. A little
small piece of explosive
material, some Semtech with a
tray.
Adam Curry: This is in the EULA.
Your device may explode. We
have, we
John C Dvorak: will be in the
EULA next, the next EULA will
say this, if
Adam Curry: your device
explodes, we have no
responsibility. Yeah, wow, but
it really, it's, everything has
come down. I mean, we're all
talking about, oh, long range
missiles, no, nuclear war, no,
no. If I was, if I was like
Zelensky or Putin or anybody,
even Trump. Trump shouldn't be
using a phone anymore. Keep it
away from them, and think of all
that we could have, exploding,
televisions, exploding, well,
the laptop, anything, anything
could, this was undetectable.
The there's blah, you know, they
have, there's blood. They have
dog, you know, they have dogs
that sniff out explosives.
They're pretty good at
protecting themselves. No, this
was, this was next level,
thinking, completely unexpected.
So, and, you know, and how about
you don't even need one of those
bigger Iranian drones anymore.
Just get one of those, you know,
those little consumer jobbies,
fly down, blow up in your face.
This is the next level. So, so,
as I said, is I'm kind of happy
because, you know, I just don't
see nuclear being necessary
anymore. And you know, if you
look at Ukraine, Russia doesn't
want to blow up Ukraine. They
don't want to nuke it. They
don't want to radiate it. They
want it. They want whatever
pieces they're interested in or
believe belongs to them. They
want to keep it pure, just like
even minds are. Dumb now. Now
this is, this is this is next.
How about your Starlink blowing
up next? Anything? I don't want
to freak people out, but I'm
glad I have my Pixel six running
graphene. Os six running
grapheneos, I bet it is. I'm
Unknown: not on the battery
blows up by itself. No, well,
Adam Curry: there's that. Can I
actually take the battery out of
this thing? I think I can.
John C Dvorak: I think I can the
early Google phones. You could
easily get the battery out and
replace it,
Adam Curry: yeah, I think I can
take it out of the pixel six,
Unknown: yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: other than boots on
the ground from Lebanon. One of
our producer's brother is living
in Beirut, trying to sell off
all his stuff and get out
Unknown: big Good luck.
Adam Curry: He says that
actually, he says it's so bad in
Lebanon, particularly the
banking we don't want to hear
much about that anymore, but he
said a lot of the younger
Lebanese wish that Israel would
just take over so it would have
financial stability. It's really
the older generation that are
the warmongers. You're only
allowed to withdraw a certain
amount of money from your bank
account each day. One woman's
sister had cancer. I'm not quite
sure how it fits into the story,
but she got a gun. I guess she
wanted treatment, got a gun,
went to her bank, withdrew as
much as they would give her, and
then fled the country. He says,
you look at the banks, there's
bullet holes in the walls
everywhere. People are just
trying to get their money. It's
crazy. Street lights are off.
Potholes. They got big potholes.
Potholes, really big potholes.
That's the biggest, that's the
biggest gripe they have. They
got potholes everywhere. So, you
know what's next? What what will
be the next thing to go? I mean,
you know that they've got it in
some cell phones. Now, it'll be
crazy not to do that. This is
the the Castro exploding cigar
Gambit
Unknown: taken to the next
level. Yeah. So I don't know
what in the Middle
John C Dvorak: East is, just
like it is here. These people
are walking around with a phone
in their hand. Even more so they
walk down the street,
Adam Curry: yeah, even more. So
well, I'm telling you, You
should be glad you've got that
old crappy Android, which you
never use. I mean, you'll just
never use it now, and I'm sure
you have a pager somewhere.
John C Dvorak: No, I, you know,
I've never had a pager in my
life. Oh, I
Adam Curry: do. You remember
when I had the two way pager and
I was abusing that instead of,
no, I've tried every I've had
aprs, you know, text messages go
to aprs on ham radio. It's all
very complicated. It's not, it's
not gonna know why you do not a
great way, not a great way, to
date. Honestly, it was kind of
hard date. Yeah, back in the day
you
John C Dvorak: used a pager.
Hey, babe, just give me a call
on my page or I'll meet you. No,
Adam Curry: no, the text
messages would go to the pager,
and then I could reply from the
pager. It was, I don't know. I
was just doing stuff, okay,
yeah, I was trying, you know,
trying to catch a hot chick like
Tina, Hey, baby.
John C Dvorak: Hey, check out my
pager, look, it's on my belt.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: they're cool. Pages
are still kind of cool.
John C Dvorak: They're never
been cool,
Adam Curry: yeah, they Yeah,
kind
John C Dvorak: of cool. Yeah,
they
Adam Curry: are, bro, I think it
is, yeah. Well, not anymore. No,
no, the pager just become very
literally hot, not cool. So,
John C Dvorak: so there's a
stink going on out here in the
West Coast. I want to get this
out of the way. This is, yeah,
Adam Curry: it's called Los
Angeles or San Francisco, a
different kind
John C Dvorak: of stink. Oh,
okay, so Newsom signed a bill,
yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Is this the AI
bill?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he signed
some stupid bill saying it's
illegal. You're gonna try to
trick people with AI even
though, you know it's like,
okay, yeah. So immediately, and
I have the clip here. It's the
AI clip. It's immediately the
Babylon B does an ad violating
this, the Newsom. Newsom's law,
his law, Newsom's law, which is
unconstitutional. There's no
doubt about it. And it's and
stupid. I mean, it's like
desperate because it's over. I
mean, you're gonna have these
things going on, these, these,
you know, they're funny, yeah,
Harris saying something dumb,
and all the rest. But play this
Hi.
Unknown: I'm Gavin Newsom, the
governor of California. This is
a message for the people of
America given in my
authentically recorded non AI
voice. Thanks to my leadership
over the last several years,
California has. Become a world
leader in extremist left wing
governance. My policies were so
effective that almost 1 million
people are now fleeing the state
every year. We even ran out of U
hauls during the covid pandemic.
I locked everyone in their homes
and shut down businesses for
months, not the French Laundry,
though that's my favorite
restaurant. Last year, I cleaned
up the dangerous, messy Streets
of San Francisco, you know,
because Chinese communist
President Xi was coming, and I
really wanted to impress him.
He's my boss. After all this
year, I signed legislation that
allows me to take custody of
your kid if you refuse to give
him artificial hormones and chop
off his genitals, because if you
don't do that, you're a bigot,
and bigots shouldn't be allowed
to have kids. I've also led the
way in green energy by banning
all cars that don't run on
electricity. Then I banned
almost all the electricity. This
is smart leadership. On my
watch, the cost of living and
homelessness have skyrocketed.
Schools are failing, drug
dealers and human traffickers
are pouring across the border,
and poop has covered the
sidewalks of San Francisco. This
is the positive, joyful vision
we offer as Democrats. That's
why I'm enthusiastically
endorsing Kamala Harris for
President in 2024 she'll do to
the country everything I did in
California. Anyway, I'm
California Governor Gavin
Newsom, and I approve this 100%
real message, which is a
recording of my voice without
the assistance of any AI
whatsoever. This isn't a deep
fake, and you can rest assured
that it isn't, because I just
signed an unconstitutional law
outlawing deep fakes. No one
would dare violate it. Thank you
and science, bless America.
Adam Curry: Have you? Have you
looked at the text of the bill?
John C Dvorak: I only glanced at
it. You? Have you? Yeah,
Adam Curry: so it's, it's a b2,
839, which really accelerated a
previous bill, a, b2, 655, which
requires large online platforms
to remove or remove or label
deceptive and digitally altered
or created content related to
elections during specific
periods, and requires them to
provide mechanisms to report
such content. It also authorizes
candidates, elected officials,
elected elections officials, the
Attorney General and a district
attorney or city attorney to
seek injunctive relief against a
large online platform for non
compliance with the act. So
it's, it's a little different
than B is being portrayed. I of
course, it's should still be
deemed unconstitutional, but
he's trying to shoehorn this in
to protect our democracy, or
something of the like,
John C Dvorak: which, well, of
course, and immediately this
reminds me of the idiot Prime
Minister and Elmer Fudd
character down in Australia. Oh,
yeah. Well, this is all who
tried to ban memes, and the
first thing that happens, of
course, is a million memes.
Yeah, targeting him,
Adam Curry: yeah. Can we agree
that this type of work with
video and audio, that that is
not AI, but it is, in fact, CGI,
that's a that's a more it's like
computer generated imagery with
text input. And this is, this is
not artificial, and it doesn't
even have anything to do with
intelligence. I think that
should be made clear.
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
good point. It's, it's CG, and
I'm not going to argue with it.
I think you're right. Most of
it, you know, there's just the
moniker that showed up, and now
everyone's just attaching it to
everything. But you could have
done this. It's just a bunch of
very interesting algorithms.
Yeah. I mean, what's the, what's
the AI part of it?
Adam Curry: No, there's zero AI
part. But, oh, you know, AI,
that's all very, very, very
impressive. Very, very
impressive. I think that this is
the only thing it should be used
for. AI is great for this. It is
great for parody and humor. And
you can't, I mean, you can't,
you're gonna see even songs that
are made with it has to be
labeled as all as parody. Well,
John C Dvorak: here, here's the
other thing about that
particular bit, that the Newsom
phony ad, you can get a good
comedic image mimicker. There's
or that woman a couple, there's
a couple of women that do,
Kamala Harrison, she could just
do the voice, is that going to
be illegal? Because, you know,
there is an intelligence
involved there. Well, this is an
illegal to now mock somebody by,
you know, sounding like them.
Adam Curry: Well, if you're a
politician during an election
year. Large platform, which I
don't think includes podcasts,
needs to include a label. You
know, it doesn't say that you
it's mandatory to take it down.
It says it has to be labeled as
as parody or fake or CGI, yeah,
because,
John C Dvorak: heaven forbid the
public can't spot this stuff.
Well, you know, that's a genuine
Gavin Newsom commercial. Yes,
Adam Curry: that sounds pretty
real to me. No, you know, from
the party of joy, they really
are taking the joy out of
everything,
John C Dvorak: aren't they?
Party of crazy, party of joy.
Behar,
Adam Curry: taking everything
out. All the joy is going out.
Do you mind if I do a little
diddy Stein stuff for a moment?
Who did he Stein? You know,
maybe I should say Diddy Steen.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. We talking
about, did he daddy?
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got Diddy,
Diddy Epstein, did he Steen?
John C Dvorak: Oh, did oh,
you're trying to be, oh, that's,
that's cute, yeah. Well, well, I
would be interested. I'm, I'm,
I'll listen to this for sure,
because I've been very
suspicious about the whole thing
from the get go. Well, the
Adam Curry: timing is what's
suspicious. The timing is before
the election, and I don't think
it's, it is related to trying to
get rid of Trump and to shut
people up about certain things.
This has been brewing for a
long, long time. And you know,
Diddy Steen himself has been out
there naming off names. This
whole freak off thing has been
the subject of YouTube videos
for months. There's all kinds of
people have been talking about
it, so starting to come to a
head. And here's a backgrounder
that I got this
Unknown: morning. Sean Diddy
Combs is behind bars, locked up
on racketeering and sex
trafficking charges that make
the music mogul sound like a
monster between
at least 2008 and the present
combs abuse threatened and
coerced victims to fulfill his
sexual desires, protect his
reputation and conceal his
conduct.
Home seen here smiling with his
children the day before his
arrest is being held without
bail, with several of his
children watching in court,
combs pleaded not guilty to
charges he led a criminal
enterprise that subjected young
women to violence, use of
firearms, threats, coercion and
verbal, emotional, physical and
sexual abuse. The 14 page
indictment alleging combs
manipulated women to participate
in highly orchestrated
performances of sexual activity
with male prostitutes called
freakoffs. He
used the embarrassing and
sensitive recordings he made of
the freakoffs as collateral
against the victims.
Prosecutors said authorities
seized the records along with
firearms, drugs and more than
1000 bottles of baby oil and
lubricant during raids last
month in Miami and Los Angeles,
the indictment describes
aggressive, open, violent,
hedonistic abuse that you say
was recurrent and widely known.
Why did it take law enforcement
so long to intervene? How many
women were victimized by Sean
Combs and how many others were
involved?
Look, our investigation is
ongoing. We are committed to
bringing justice everyone who's
been victimized by the
defendant. I can't tell you why
it took so long. I think the
better focus is on the fact that
we are here today, and we are
committed to making sure that
justice is
done. His attorney, promising a
vigorous defense, saying those
freakoffs were nothing more than
consenting adults experiencing
intimacy.
Adam Curry: So you laughed at it
too, when I when I heard the
when they heard the words of the
of the prosecution, like, oh,
okay, so you, you really don't
have that much. And of course,
we have the the indictment,
which is now unsealed because it
was one of 1000s that are still
sealed, but the main thing we
need to do with our M 5m media
is just focus on the show
business aspect. Focus on the
show business aspect. TMZ, help
us out. You know, good morning,
Brian
Unknown: and Natalie. I got to
tell you my thoughts reading the
14 page indictment yesterday
were that there is going to be,
there are a lot of people in
Hollywood. We're probably
worried about which Diddy
parties they were at and what
was going on. That's not to say
that they were necessarily even
involved in any of the things
that are alleged by the US
Attorney's Office. But if you're
at that party, and it turns out
that that's when he set up one
of these freakoff sex parties,
or that it was going on in
another room and you didn't know
about it. There's a good chance
that you're going to be called
by the U S attorney's office if
you're and certainly if you were
involved, you would get a call,
because they're going to want to
know everything you want to.
Ellen may even want you to be a
witness. I just think, you know,
we're just starting to scratch
the surface of what this case,
who is this case, is going to
touch and involve. And the feds
have said that this remains an
open investigation. There could
be more charges for Diddy, there
could be more charges for other
people involved. And usually the
way this works is, once they
find out other people are
involved or were witnesses, they
bring them in, and they sort of
lean on them, and it's sort of
like you're going to cooperate
with us, or there's a
possibility that you could face
charges. So this is going to be
a slow developing case here,
because we're just getting
started, and I don't see how
this trial begins anytime before
next year, yeah,
Adam Curry: until after the
election. Yeah, exactly. That's
that's the reason for doing this
all now, because and the people
who are involved in this, and by
the way, Diddy, Diddy Steen
being gay, is like, Okay, this
is, like the oldest news ever.
Who is Diddy Steen's boss? He
has a boss. You know? It's Clive
Davis. Clive Davis, who, during
his I think third or fourth
marriage, said, You know, I'm
really kind of gay, and I'm
having a good time over here
with all the gay guys. So I'm
going to call myself bi or
whatever. There is what's Rick
Ross. I mean all these guys,
there's a lot of gay and hip
hop, and there is such a an
injection, infusion of all kinds
of businesses, with the music
business, which, if you think
it's a perfect racket, I mean,
it really is a gangster racket,
because I've learned with even
just with value for value music,
if you have a good song and you
can play it for someone, and you
they hear it three times, you
can make it a hit. I mean, it's
just a fact. That's how it
works. So if you have control,
that's how payola used to work
out. Oh, yeah, totally. Now you
don't need payola because the
record companies are the literal
owners of Spotify. I mean, some
of them sold their stock when
they kind of did that weird
public off. I did it. I did it.
It's now 10 nine.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's 10
nine. They did
Adam Curry: that strange public
offering, which wasn't really a
public offering, was a liquidity
event for the insider, the
inside holders. And if you know
how Spotify works, it's all
based upon playlists that you
have to pay to get on. And these
playlists are operated by the
record companies. I mean, the
whole thing is it just pushes
music to the forefront
continuously. There's also an
interesting connection between,
if you remember this, I think
it's the Malaysian one MBD Fund,
which it had the guy, I think
the whole bunch of musicians
were involved in this. I think
also the guy from Black Eyed
Peas and money went to Pharrell
Williams, and, you know, a
couple million went to Kim
Kardashian. And it was, you
know, stolen money is, I mean,
it's all, all crazy kinds of
money that's floating around.
Oh, yeah. Now this, this
diddystein, these freak offs,
which is just a perfect name for
it. They were all videotaped, so
they're sitting on videotapes.
But please don't, don't think
about that. You don't hear too
much about it. Even his lawyer,
who was by himself, a very
interesting character, Mark
ignifio. Now, what is Mark
agnifio done previously? He
defended Keith Rainier, the
founder of Nexium. You remember
that the sex, sex cult, sex cult
with the Bronfman girls? Was it
mom and daughter, if I remember
correctly, he also, he also, oh,
here you go. He also represented
Roger ng of Goldman Sachs, who
was convicted in 2022, of
bribery and corruption involving
the Malaysian sovereign wealth
fund. So there's a lot of things
that tie. I don't have all the
answers. A lot of things that
tie together, but this arrest is
untimely for the crimes or
whatever you know the it's all
allegations from a grand jury
and agnifico and niflco appeared
on CNN with Caitlin. Do you know
what the Caitlyn used to be a
blogger for the daily wire. She
used to go on Fox News all the
time. Caitlin, who Collins, the
CNN, the new CNN girl who with
the with the unfriendly face.
Oh, that one. Yeah. She used to
work for the, she used to be a,
like a right, a right wing
blogger for daily wire. You
know,
John C Dvorak: these? People. It
really annoying. This reminds me
of, remember that that guy was,
I can't remember that gruff
character who was like a right
winger, then he went to work for
CNN. He was a left winger, and
he was Ed Schultz. And then
Schultz went to RT, where he
became and he died. And then he
died. Yeah, he went to RT. Then
he became a kind of a Russian
asset, and then he died.
Flipping around. These guys are
not they have no allegiance
whatsoever. They just, you know,
oh, you're telling me. Oh, I how
much you gonna pay me to be a
right winger? How much you gonna
pay me to spew left wing
propaganda? It's really
pathetic. I don't really have a
lot of respect for those folk
Adam Curry: well, and she has
that Joker mouth, like she has
kind of those high corners of
her mouth, notice in Joker
mouth. Anyway, here she is with,
with Diddy's lawyer, of the guy
who was, who was intimately
familiar with all kinds of
shenanigans. And he has it makes
a very interesting point about
what the indictment really says.
Unknown: When you read through
the indictment, they say that
there's not just one victim.
They say there's multiple
victims here today. And what I
heard described was they said
they have 50 witnesses or
victims. Yeah, I
think it's 49 witnesses and one
victim. I think if you broke it
down, and I say that because
count two, which is a sex
trafficking count, has victim
number one, and there is no
victim number two anywhere in
the indictment.
So you're saying that there are
not other women. Because what
they were essentially arguing
here is that he coerced and
forced women into sex acts by
using physical force, financial
pressure, emotional abuse and
narcotics for what they
described as these freak off
sessions. They say that he self
described them as that.
Yeah, there's one victim in the
indictment. That's that the
charging victim does count,
right? No, no, of course, but
I'm just not it's not 50. I
mean, what they did is a little
too cute. Is, is 50 witnesses or
victims? Well, it's, it's one
victim. That's all that's in the
indictment. Our
reporter, who was in the
courtroom today, said that he
appeared to have a stunned
expression on his face. Was he
surprised that he was arrested
last night?
No, he definitely was not. I
mean, I told him myself in early
September, you are going to be
arrested soon, and you're going
to be charged with racketeering
and charged with sex
trafficking. So come to New
York. There wasn't a long
conversation. He agreed. So we
knew this was coming, and in
fact, we offered that he would
turn himself in.
Adam Curry: So there was really
only if I understand it, and
I've read it as from what I can
understand from the legalese.
I'm sure rob the constitutional
lawyer will check it out. He
loves this kind of stuff. There
was one victim. And the victim,
quote, unquote, was a male
prostitute who was trafficked
across state lines, which is
kind of this, very reminiscent
of Epstein. And everyone else
was like, Well, we were kind of
there having a good time at the
freakoff and, you know, so you
make 14 pages of,
Unknown: well, you know, he
Adam Curry: had guns and you had
lube, lots of lube, which, you
know, no one can no one get past
the 1000 bottles of lube. I
mean, that's just crazy. What
kind of free costs were you
doing? The women who were not
happy, they're not listed as
victims in the in the
indictment, as it stands, they
have civil suits against him.
They've all been trying to get
money out of him, but still only
one victim that's pretty
Unknown: powerful, though, to
have that many people who have
if they go to court and argue
that they that they witnessed
this behavior by your client.
Well, defensive against
so my defense is very well
established. I interviewed
myself to different men who were
being brought, sort of into Mr.
Combs and this person's, you
know, intimate situation. I've
flown around the country. I've
interviewed a large number of
them. There's not the slightest
inkling, according to the
interviews that I've done, of
anything that's coercive, non
consensual. Nobody was too
drunk, nobody was too high.
These were adults in a
relationship. This is a 10 year
relationship. We can't forget
that this is a 10 year
relationship, and it was adults
and consensual, and everybody
who was there wanted to be
there. So I feel very
confident in our position. You
said you interviewed the men,
but what about the women I
haven't interviewed
the one, the woman's not
available to me. She's
presumably a grand jury witness.
And we would not, we cannot try
to interview a grand jury
witness. And
you don't think that there are
any other women who are going to
say that they were coerced into
this, given drugs. And
essentially, as prosecutors were
saying that, that's what kept
them compliant.
So there are a lot of women in
these civil cases. There's been
a there's been a mountain of
civil cases ever since the civil
case that was filed in November.
I don't see them as victims in
the indictment. That's my point.
Adam Curry: So once you get to.
Clive Davis, you know, who was
definitely been at the freak
offs. I mean, come on, this is
the whole reason he left his
wife is because he wanted to be
in this scene, in this gay hip
hop scene. Before you know what?
You're Jeffrey Katzenberg.
You're Jeffrey Katzenberg,
you're at the upper echelons of
the Democrat Party. And
definitely you're at Kamala
Harris. There's lots of pictures
of her in her nightie. You know
that? You know this goes back to
the Montel William days, when
she was kind of trolling around,
hanging out at the parties.
Willie Brown days, no, this
video is damning. The videos are
the problem, and they had to get
Diddy out of the limelight
before he did anything rash,
like tell people, and I don't
know, this doesn't look good for
his health. Can I? Can we be the
first to say, did he didn't kill
himself?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting. The also, yes,
well, these videos are probably
not a good thing to have, no to
have released. And
Adam Curry: as a side note,
Diddy was from the reports I've
seen, one of the investors who
put money in to help Elon Musk
buy Twitter and turn it into x.
So there's, there's all kinds of
connections. This went on for
far too long. And you can just
go to YouTube and put in
freakoff, and you'll see all
kinds of people talking about
these parties right up to what's
his face. LeBron James, ain't no
party like a Diddy party, uh
huh. Now there's a lot of money
at play here, a lot of lot of
assets, as it were,
John C Dvorak: yes in the
blackmail game, yes.
Adam Curry: So you know this,
this will be very, very
unfortunate for a lot of people,
and it's the videos. It's always
look now, will we ever see these
videos? Doubtful, no, like,
we're
John C Dvorak: still, it's like
seeing the day Epstein. Yes, you
had a room full of them. Does
not. In fact, they won't even
give us a list of names. I mean,
they these. It's the government.
This is a government cover up.
Yes.
Adam Curry: Oh, big time. Big
time.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Let's grab
this guy, you know, put him on
ice, literally, yep, and it may
be permanently and
Adam Curry: and shut him up from
whatever he has. And it's, it's
not, is not going to be pretty
John C Dvorak: well, they've
done a good job, but it's weak.
Adam Curry: But it's weak. You
know, the indictment is weak and
then not given, not letting him
out on bail. He said, hey, I'll
do $50 million bail. Nope. Oh,
okay. He was ready to give
himself up to say, Okay, let's
just, let's just discuss this,
like, like men and take care of
this. You know, there's just
some videotapes. No, there's,
there's something very damning
going on. And I don't it's,
somehow it feels like it's not,
it's not, it's it this Latin
most recent attack on Trump,
which I have to say, I'm a
little disappointed in our
trolls. There are trolls who
have my signal, my telegram,
myself. Yes, not a this
happened. This. This happened
John C Dvorak: during the show.
Any of this at least two hours,
yeah, before the show end. And
Adam Curry: email doesn't count.
I'm not looking at email during
the show. There's so many people
who could have just said, hey,
hey, hey, show day, hello. This
is what's happening.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, the
trolls missed this completely.
It was a complete fail of the
troll
Adam Curry: room. Complete.
Fail, yes, yes. Fail, yeah. We
John C Dvorak: both do at the
end of the show, we closed the
show, and then we first thing we
noticed, he opened the, you
know, some browsers up and jump.
Well, they said assassination.
So the trolls
Adam Curry: are saying that they
were talking about it during the
during the show, but you can
send me a DM in the troll room,
and it's, it fires up an alert.
Anyway, it was just
disappointing to me, like, oh,
we
John C Dvorak: were talking
about before we get into that.
Since we're on the music
business, I do have to play this
clip. Oh,
Adam Curry: you got some music
business stuff, huh? Well, this
John C Dvorak: is Taylor Swift.
Have you seen this?
Adam Curry: If do, I need to
tell you. This is from 2015
John C Dvorak: Okay, don't I
you? You
Adam Curry: need to tell me that
that video that that everyone
has been sending me is an old
video from, from this is, she's
talking about Blackburn in in
Tennessee. This is not a recent
video of Taylor Swift talking
about Trump.
John C Dvorak: How come it
starts off with the discussion
of Trump, because it was 2015
Adam Curry: this very video,
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to
play it then, yeah, no, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. We. Get duped
all the time, and I had to look
at it. Well,
John C Dvorak: I didn't get
duped. I found it myself. Oh, I
duped myself. If people
Adam Curry: sent it to me like,
Oh, look at this. Taylor Swift
is mental. You know, this is
2015 and it was on some
documentary that she was doing
at the time. So
John C Dvorak: here's what my
takeaway from it was, even
though, if you want, we can play
it. No, no, it's not necessary,
because it actually makes sense
that it was about Blackburn, but
because she keeps referring to
the her she Yeah, is that Taylor
Swift? That's what the thing
that's interesting is, because
her dad's there, and we never
get to see much of him, and
she's like a little tween.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, she was
10 years younger.
John C Dvorak: Well, she was 24
if she was 10 years younger, she
wasn't.
Adam Curry: She's 34 now, is
that how old she is? Yes,
John C Dvorak: she's 34 holy
Adam Curry: crap. Grow up girl.
John C Dvorak: And she's like a
in this thing, she's 24 Well,
it's not even 10 years ago, 25
it said nine years ago. She's
Adam Curry: 20 she's 34 you're
right, she's 34
Unknown: so
John C Dvorak: she's like a
tween. She's like, she's like a
little kid, in terms of the way
she responds to everything.
She's I, I wonder how cloistered
some of these who you would know
better than me, how cloistered
some of these artists become to
the point where they don't
really have a clue about
anything going on.
Adam Curry: Well, I would say
many of them. Well, okay, how
about another just taking it
back to diddystein, Justin
Bieber. Justin Bieber was
literally taken under Diddy's
wing for like, a weekend, if
there's all kinds of weird
stuff. I
Unknown: mean, yeah,
Adam Curry: those kids are on
YouTube. Yeah. Now he fired his
Tristar agent Lou Taylor, just
like this week, who was also
behind Britney Spears
conservatorship. This goes much
deeper than than we think. Much
deeper. I'm thinking
presidential models, if you know
what I'm saying, yeah.
John C Dvorak: MK, Ultra, yes,
yes. Thinking yes, absolutely.
Adam Curry: Hey, come on. I
mean, Taylor Swift, go look at
the at the credits on her songs.
There's sometimes 15 people on
there. There's entire Swedish
Writing teams that jump in on
this stuff. They
Unknown: have a lot of writers.
Yeah, it's it's manufactured.
Still aren't that good. It's
Adam Curry: formulaic. And just
keep repeating it. Keep
repeating it. And look at how,
look at the effect that has on
the children.
Unknown: You know, it works
Adam Curry: now. I love that
she's doing witchcraft on stage.
And please, Swifties don't email
me and say it's just it's just
like a theater. It's just
theatrics.
John C Dvorak: What Swifties
email you? What Swifties listen
to this show. Well, it
Adam Curry: starts with a D
Darren gets my face. Hey, man,
hey, Mandy,
John C Dvorak: I'm on it today.
Adam Curry: Hey, man, that's no
good so and Well, since we're
talking about it, I would say
that just looking at this guy's
background, this Ryan Wesley,
Roth, Ruth, Roth,
John C Dvorak: yeah, three. They
got the three names too, which
is always
Adam Curry: a classic without a
doubt, MK, Ultra, whether he was
triggered by a trigger word or
would, I would be very likely to
believe is some special agent
was jacking this guy up.
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of
the movie Manchurian Candidate,
where this play, let's play a
game of cards. I think it was
right. That was the trigger
word, yes. And because this guy
is just this guy, it's, it's
ludicrous, this character, yeah,
I mean his shack in Hawaii, and
the fact that he did a long, I
It's been posted. We're not
playing any clips from it
because it's idiotic. But he
goes on and not he's in Ukraine.
The show goes on for a news
week,
Adam Curry: the Newsweek
interview. But it is, yeah,
yeah. So this was what's so if
you look at the machine as it
is, you know, just remove
politics and parties and
ideologies and just look at the
machine of companies and turf,
because that's really what the
world is. Trump, by the way,
sees this, and he's the problem
because he wants to protect the
USA Inc. He believes in USA Inc,
and he wants to keep it, and
that's he was right about the
trade balance. I mean, the only
problem. He has with China's,
they were ripping us off by
debasing their currency. And the
trade, the money flow was was
imbalanced, and the money was
flowing out of our country. He
sees it. It's very simple, if
you really look at stealing
John C Dvorak: our money, yeah,
and,
Adam Curry: you know, and that's
been going on for a long time,
and he wanted to stop it, and he
knows the things that have to
happen. But at a top level,
especially Ukraine, I mean, you
know, who owns Newsweek, who
owns the New York Times? These
are all big entities, entities
that are tied to big money, and
it's all, it's a game. It's just
a game, and it's a roll up. It's
a everyone's rolling up turf.
The EU was a roll up of sorts,
and Ukraine is the acquisition
target. It's like, who gets
Lindsey Graham is an idiot
because he keeps saying, well,
there's trillions of dollars of
minerals. Uh huh. Shut up,
Lindsay. We know it, and the EU
wants it to be theirs. Make no
mistake, they're not our
friends. They want it to be
theirs. And we're being duped.
The American public, at least,
is being duped into, Oh yeah,
well, it's NATO, okay, yeah,
we'll help you out. Here's all
we're paying for it. Democracy,
for democracy. Yeah, it's one
big shell game. It's the College
of corporations. It's already
been the grain and all the
farmlands have already been sold
and divvied up. That was the
first step as BlackRock. And
it's easy to make Blackrock the
bad guy of everything, by the
way. You know that video is
going around. Oh, he was in a
Blackrock commercial. No, that
wasn't a Blackrock commercial.
That was. That was my favorite.
Everyone just sends me this
video and says, A Blackrock
commercial. Did you look at the
video? No, it was a promotion
for the military industrial
complex, and which Blackrock has
as a share in. I mean, no doubt
about it, but they've already
loaned Ukraine half a trillion
dollars for the rebuilding. You
know, it's just, it's just a
game of companies and money and
turf. That's all that it is. I'm
John C Dvorak: reminded, if you
it's kind of a small version of
what you just described, is the
way the hotel business operates.
Okay? You know, we have a hotel.
They open up a and then next
thing, you know, it's owned by
Hilton, and then they sell it to
Sheraton. And Sheraton does, and
it's just like a bunch of cars,
like guys playing cards. So, you
know, I think we should open a
couple, let's get a couple
places in London. From there,
Sheraton wants to get out of
London. I think we should try
it. And every time they do that,
there's a bunch of financial
possibilities. You can write off
this and that, and you can do
this shell game Exactly. It
changes how you spend your money
and how you can the investment
Adam Curry: you put in, and what
you can write off of the
remodeling, all of that,
absolutely. And it
John C Dvorak: takes, and it
takes a little bit, but that
does take a lot of work.
Adam Curry: Well, but that's the
only work. That is the only
look, the
John C Dvorak: only work. It's
just handling with numbers. I
mean, the military,
Adam Curry: corporate industrial
base, they give money to the
lobbyists. The lobbyists give it
to the politicians, the
politicians, they pass
legislation. You know, it's
like, it's all, all part of the
same system. And for the love of
money, is the root of all evil.
It is truly, always the root of
all evil. So you get this, Ryan
Wesley, Roth, dude, and he's
being, he's a, he's like a drop
of oil underneath the cracked
engine block. We just don't know
that where the crack and, you
know, the cylinder head is
cracked because stuff is
starting to be revealed to us
because of just the vast amount
of communications. And you put
this guy, you know, the New York
Times interviews him. Then when
the New York Times comes to
interview, you be like, Oh, I'm
pretty special. How about the
NGOs? All of our money goes into
not all, but significant,
billions of dollars goes into
USA ID, National Endowment for
Democracy, and they give money
to the NGOs. That's why the
immigrants are still coming in,
because the NGOs are getting
paid, people getting million
dollar salaries, a lot of them
faith based. I got to add that,
because it's really disgusting.
What's happening, same thing
with this guy. You know, every
Roland Martin went over to
Ukraine. Oh, yeah, you know who
pays for that? The NGOs. The
NGOs are sitting there. They've
got money. He even went to the
Netherlands, Helsinki Institute
in Holland. Rouse, yes, they
did. Yes. They posted, well, we
had a chat with Mr. Ruth. He
wasn't said he was in Washington
to meet with the US commission
on security incorporation in
Europe, known as the Helsinki
Commission, for two hours to
help push more support for
Ukraine. And that commission is
led by members of Congress. Is
staffed by congressional aides,
very influential on matters of
democracy and security, and
they've been very vocal for
support for Ukraine. So, you
know, if people just throw money
at you, any we could have, we
could have said, hey, you know
what? I want to go help the
Ukrainians. You land in Kyiv
International, there's somebody
there. Hey, here's some money.
Here's an apartment. Do your
videos? I mean, it's, this has
been, this is a much bigger
operation than just what we're
seeing. And we're not really
seeing anything, because we
don't see anyone being maimed
and killed or the tanks being
blown up continuously? No, we're
just seeing little bits and
pieces of information. So it's
everywhere he went, every
institution, Institute, every
NGO, every magazine, every
newspaper that interviewed him,
they probably said, Man, Trump's
a problem. You know, Trump's a
problem. So, yeah, does it? You
know? And then if, if you read
in the same newspapers and
magazines that came to interview
you, he's Hitler, he's gonna
remove our democracy. What else
do you expect? Now, suspicious
is the is the assault style
rifle that had the serial number
obliterated, you know? So
please, M, 5m. Stop saying,
Well, how could he, how could he
buy an assault rifle every
convicted felon from, by the
way, if you are convicted of
having a machine gun without the
proper documentation, you're
going to jail. You don't just
walk around after that. You go
to jail. That is a federal
offense, that is a felony. So
this guy was a ticking time
bomb, and whether he was MK
Ultra and they had a code word,
someone got him to Florida,
someone told him to be there.
There's no doubt about it, and
that's why I'm a little
suspicious of a six week cycle
type event, maybe not intended
to actually assassinate the
president, but they and they
sure knew. And then, how can you
you see that? You see the gun,
you you spring into action, you
start firing, and you miss, huh?
What kind of secret service are
you? God? Ashley Babbitt was
spot on. It's like, it doesn't
make sense. And my favorite
piece is Sean Hannity, who
John C Dvorak: was, before you
go on, I do want to mention
something. It was in Trump was
on. I don't have any clips from
it because it was a little
tedious, but I maybe go back and
watch the rest of it. But Trump
was on Gutfeld as a guest. I
have a clip. And the thing at
the very beginning, he's, you
know, they, they pretty much
give him the show. So he's
yakking away. He mentions that
the woman, it was a woman who
saw the guy running from the
scene and got his license plate
and sent it to send it on to the
law enforcement and and one of
the other guests said at the
time, and I agreed, it's like,
why we were never told it was a
woman, which was a fact. It was
always some helpful citizen, or
they never would say it was a
woman. For some reason, I found
that very peculiar. Trump said
it was a woman. But they went
out of their way to assiduously.
Suggested was, I was under the
impression with some dude, hmm.
So I just found that to be
fascinating.
Adam Curry: And how, and how
does he know there's a woman? I
mean, can you, Trump, said it
was, can you tell me what is a
woman? Okay, I'm just saying,
yeah. Okay, so Hannity was
supposed to be out on the golf
course with him. He makes a very
unfortunate statement in
explaining his experience that
day, where he had breakfast with
the President's golf partner. So
Unknown: I got a lot of details.
I'm very aware of the New York
Post report that said that it
was outside of the what's called
Trump International in West Palm
Beach, which is where, actually
where I am. And anyway, so long
story short, is President Trump.
They were on the fifth hole.
They were about to go up to putt
and the way Steve Witkoff. Now,
just as a little bit of
background arthal, I happened to
go to breakfast with Steve
Witkoff and another friend of
mine this morning, and I was
invited to play golf. They
happen to be really good
golfers. I don't have a lot of
time to play golf, so I didn't.
I said, Thank you, but I'm not
going to go. A lot on the golf
course and get killed out there.
But long story short,
oops
Adam Curry: Sean, think about
what you're saying that looks
bad. Don't say these things.
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
that guy who's something who's
got some mental issues because,
and I say that because he can't
stop talking. He doesn't have
time. I've never seen anybody
just he does it. He does a three
hour radio show every day of the
week, and then does an hour
every day of the week on Fox, a
TV show. Nobody that is the
hardest working man in show
while
Adam Curry: writing books.
John C Dvorak: Well, he's
probably got some help there,
but it's like, how I it's beyond
me. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he's got a four hour
workday. It's
John C Dvorak: crazy. You want
to go golfing? No, I
Adam Curry: don't think so. So
this ties into,
John C Dvorak: well, it's not
just, yeah, it's a four hour
work week, work day, work day. I
mean, no, it's four hours on the
air. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I know. We know. We
know what that really means. I
mean, you're continuously doing
stuff, no doubt. But he also
wears 18 pins from all of the
agencies. I got an NSA pin. I
got a CIA pin.
John C Dvorak: Yes, he's
Adam Curry: got all kinds and a
flag, and I got a flag, yeah,
John C Dvorak: so yeah, well,
he's he's wrong.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, Holly's
got his panties in a bunch,
because he has a whistleblower.
Now, when Holly says
whistleblower, I think that's a
little more believable than the
whistleblower at ABC who you
know, died breaking the
whistleblower is already dead.
We didn't, never. Nothing ever
came of that. Oh, she got the
questions in advance. He was on
waters. Well, what we've heard
Jesse from new whistleblowers
who've come forward about this
second assassination attempt on
Donald Trump's Life. And here's
what they have told us that golf
course that the President was
playing Secret Service have
guarded that course many, many
times. And what the
whistleblower says is protocol
calls for Secret Service to
station agents along the places
in the course that are known
vulnerabilities. I want to
emphasize, the service has
guarded this course many times.
They know where there are
vulnerable vulnerabilities. They
normally station agents there
ahead of Trump's appearance on
the course, but they apparently
did not do that this last
weekend. And the whistleblowers
tell me that's strange. That's
out of protocol. It's not even
clear Secret Service swept the
perimeter before Trump took to
the course. Also a brooch, a
breach, rather a protocol. And
they want to know why, and so do
I. I think the Secret Service
deserves to give us answers.
Yeah, it's even worse than that,
because they still don't have
any answers on requested
documents from Butler,
Pennsylvania. Do you know that
the Secret Service still has not
given congressional
investigators the documented
evidence we have been asking for
for two months, two months since
Trump was shot in the face. Now
he has been shot at or nearly so
again, and still, Secret Service
is stonewalling right down to
this hour. I mean, what is going
on here? What is happening?
Yeah, yeah,
John C Dvorak: he dramatizes it.
Adam Curry: I do have one clip
of Trump on Gutfeld. I didn't
watch the whole thing actually.
I figured you would have clips.
I'm kind of surprised you
didn't. But, well,
John C Dvorak: you know, it's
like, it's trying. I could have
gotten a rally clip. It's, I
listen as I listen. It's just
Trump going on and on. He talks
a lot. And so I had, and I
didn't watch the whole thing. I
watched the beginning, and I
thought it was going to be kind
of boring. And so not, I mean,
it's always kind of interesting
with Trump, and you had, you had
campagno there, and she's
laughing at everything. She's
just, who is hysterical, who's
companion Emily, the ex Raiders
cheerleader, who's also one of
the smartest women you run into.
And she used to be a, she's the
dark complected girl that's
sitting there with the dark
hair. She was a light complected
blonde head of the cheerleader
issues that really cheerleader
for the Oakland Raiders, and
thinks everything is hilarious.
So she laughs a lot. She and
Gutfeld loves to have her on the
show because she laughs laughing
last time well and, and you had
Tyrus and and what's her name,
the timf, Tim cat. Tim.
Adam Curry: So here it is,
here's, here's the clip. You
Unknown: bring up God and you've
almost been killed twice. Do you
think more about your own
mortality and
what happens after you go move
on? Yeah,
not about mortality, but I do
think more about God, because,
okay, Butler was really the
greatest of all miracle. If I'm
not looking over there, and I
mean a full turn exactly 90
degrees, I wouldn't be here
right now, and your ratings
would be a little bit lower.
Perhaps
kill me there, but you. Hear
something
about that, because I said,
bring down the chart. And the
chart drops down. And I go look
at those numbers, and I look
over to the right, I ping, and
that was that I knew something
was definitely wrong, and it was
a mess I touched. I said, That's
unusual. Remember when
you showed it to me? I showed
it, yeah, you showed it to me.
Said, I
know people aren't going to
believe this. So Gutfeld, take a
look at my ear.
That's right. You know, I met,
we met in at the convention,
yeah. And I said, Who am I going
to show it to? You know, we have
a lot of guys. They'll say it
didn't exist. And I actually did
have such confidence in him, and
he's really a very special guy,
talented guy, good guy, great
guy. And I said, you know, if
I'm going to show it, let's do
it with Gutfeld.
That's amazing,
because it happened right after.
How did you get him to see the
top of your ear?
I sat in a low chair
Adam Curry: this funny. This
he's, he's, he's, he's quick,
John C Dvorak: yeah, I know. But
it was that was not atypical. It
was, I didn't get any clips for
that. That was, you proved my
point. Well,
Adam Curry: I like that one. I'd
like the ear story that was
pretty funny.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the years.
Yeah, it's the Gutfeld story.
Let me get back. I was only five
foot five, which is a joke that
was in there. Let me get back to
the
Adam Curry: to this character,
this actor, by the way, he also
wrote a book,
John C Dvorak: this guy, and we
know how that yeah, they said
they wrote a book, but where is
this book? Now?
Adam Curry: Let me see if I got
the name of it.
John C Dvorak: They keep talking
about this book, and in the
Adam Curry: book my war, he
wrote, wrote big air quotes this
book. He says, while I was
instructed to describe the
events of my trip, you know, as
all these like he was being told
what to do, I've been instructed
that some sort of background and
backstory is required. So this
guy is such a product of this
machine, and even CBS Holly
Williams had talked to him, and
here
Unknown: he is. This is the
suspect, Ryan Wesley Ruth was in
his late 50s. He spent time as a
volunteer in Ukraine after the
Russian invasion, and our holly
Williams was in touch with him
when he was overseas, and she
joins us now. Holly, good
morning. What else can
you tell us about this man? Hey,
there. Nate. Look When I woke up
this morning in London to the
news that Ryan Ruth was the
suspect in an alleged
assassination attempt on former
President Donald Trump, I was
stunned to recognize the name,
because I had been in touch with
Ryan Ruth for over a year in the
early stages of the war in
Ukraine, like 1000s of other
international volunteers, he
apparently went to Ukraine to
help. I do not believe he was
fighting himself, but he had put
signs up in Kyiv, Ukraine's
capital, offering to help other
foreigners find places in
Ukrainian battalions. And that's
how I initially came across him.
I spoke with him, I think, once
on the phone and texted
frequently, and he put me in
touch with several foreign
fighters. Now, he seemed very
genuine and passionate about
supporting Ukraine. He mentioned
plans to bring in 1000s of
Afghan and Syrian fighters,
which I took, frankly, with a
grain of salt. In an interview
with the news website semaphore,
he claimed he had been unable to
get visas for those Afghan
fighters, but we don't know if
he was actually in touch with
any Ukrainian officials at all.
Now, I've met American
volunteers everywhere from Syria
to Ukraine. Some are experienced
soldiers and very clear about
the dangers they're facing.
Others seem less well informed,
and their motivations can be
quite confused. To be honest,
Ryan Ruth did, at times, seem
fairly naive. At one point, he
sent me an audio track of a song
he'd apparently recorded about
the carnage caused by the war in
Ukraine. In November of last
year, he told me he was back in
the US in Hawaii, and that was
the last time I heard from him.
What
Adam Curry: do you want to bet
this guy was at one of Diddy's
freak off parties?
John C Dvorak: I bet no,
Adam Curry: anything's possible.
So the M 5m is taking this to a
different place, of course,
because, you know, we have to,
we have to blame it on Trump
himself. Somehow. I have a
couple of examples
John C Dvorak: before you go
there. I do have a clip to
interrupt you with, okay,
because I don't think that just
that this guy's just
propagandized, but the public
itself has been you're going to
get into this so ridiculously
propagandized to make Trump
think it was his fault that he
did everything. I want to play
this C span guy who calls in, oh
yes,
Unknown: this is great glide,
Louisiana. Willie. Democrat,
good morning. Good morning.
I just want to say I'm a very
patriotic American. I did 20 of
the military, two to the Vietnam
only 1966 when back in 68 and I
look at myself and think. About
we as a military man. We pull
the clothing, kill capital,
destroy the enemy by all means
available. And I see we let this
man, Trump, destroy America. And
I look at and say, well, these
two people had to step up and
take that shot. I made it
through.
I'm sorry, Willie, you're not
advocating violence, are you
not violence. I'm talking about
defending my country. All right,
Dan in Louisville, Kentucky,
independent. Oh, yeah, yeah,
boom.
Adam Curry: That's what happens,
of course. And so think about
how, how easy it is for this
weak brother, this Ruth
character, who is clearly not
right in the head. You just look
at him like now, and all you
have to say is, you know, Trump
is the source of all problems.
Trump is the reason why Russia
is is gaining ground and is
going to get hold of Ukraine and
democracy, of course, of course.
But the mainstream, oh no, let's
just blame it on each other.
This is NBC
Unknown: tonight, former
President Trump thanking
officers who caught the suspect
in the apparent assassination
attempt against him, and
describing the alarming moments
on his golf course.
All of a sudden, we heard shots
being fired in the air, and I
guess probably four or five
Secret Service knew immediately
it was bullets, and they grabbed
me an agent
had fired on the armed suspect
who was able to hide in the
bushes undetected by Secret
Service for nearly 12 hours.
This is the second attempt on
Trump's life in nine weeks.
Trump blames democratic rhetoric
against him, and so does his
running mate. No
one has tried to kill Kamala
Harris in the last couple of
months, and two people now have
tried to kill Donald Trump in
the last couple of months. I'd
say that's pretty strong
evidence that the left needs to
tone down the rhetoric and needs
to cut this crap out
the Trump campaign pointing to
comments like these as stoking
fear, Donald
Trump is an existential threat
to our democracy and our most
fundamental freedoms.
Well, Democrats argued Trump's
rhetoric sparked the January 6
attack, and that he's used
heated language against them. If
we don't win on november 5, I
think our country is going to
cease to exist.
And Garrett, the former
president, about to take the
stage now this will be his first
rally since the apparent
assassination attempt.
That's right. Lester, this crowd
has been chanting Fight, fight,
fight. Mr. Trump's rallying cry
after that first assassination
attempt. But unlike then, when
he briefly spoke of unity, his
campaign is rejecting the
premise that he needs to do
anything else to lower the
rhetorical temperature in this
country.
Adam Curry: So that's where it
has to go is, well, it's Trump
doing this. Well, it's Kamala
doing this. And what are we all
doing? We're all on. Elon's ex
arguing about it. Here's CNN,
Unknown: a few days ago, we had
an incident. I have to say,
Secret Service did a hell of a
job. This guy was all set. He
was all set to do his number,
and there was no talk. He didn't
say, Hello. What are you doing
here? Please. And he ends up
getting shot himself. No. Took
his gun, started shooting him,
and this guy ran
Sunday's events, reignited
debate in Washington over Secret
Service shortcomings and over
the relationship between heated
rhetoric and political violence.
Trump's opponent Kamala Harris
called him yesterday to check on
him. Here's what she told the
National Association of Black
Journalists about their
conversation,
I told him what I have said
publicly, there is no place for
political violence in our
country. We can and should have
healthy debates and discussion
and disagreements, but not
resort to violence to to resolve
those issues.
Harris's running mate echoed her
message yesterday.
JD Vance Trump's running mate
told a crowd in Michigan that
calls to lower the temperature
on the trail could actually lead
to violence. Do you
have we don't solve our
differences in
this country's violence. We
condemn all its forms. We solve
our differences
at the ballot box. Don't lecture
Donald Trump, about softening
his rhetoric after two people
tried to kill him. It's
ridiculous. Don't try to censor
your political opponents,
because censorship will
eventually lead to political
violence. We've seen that now
twice in the last couple of
months, and I hope Democrats
learn the lesson. Censorship
Adam Curry: leads to political
violence. That's interesting.
Not quite sure what he means by
that. Then there was this, you
know, they've got this. Scott
Jennings now on CNN, have you
noticed this guy? No, not at
all. He's he's a Republican.
They brought him in. Actually,
the first time I really noticed
him is during the Democrat
national convention. And he's
kind of like the foil. He's
there to say, Well, I do know
this. You see this guy, so he
really he was trolling in this
roundtable discussion with Abby
Phillip and Tim Naftali, and I
have a couple clips from it.
Good evening. I'm
Unknown: Abby Phillip in New
York. Let's get right to what
America is. Talking about an
apparent
second No, we're
Adam Curry: talking about Diddy.
We're not talking about anything
else.
Unknown: Assassination attempt
on Donald Trump. And this
country is incapable of talking
about this five alarm fire,
instead of focusing on the
crisis of violence in our
politics. Or, by
Adam Curry: the way, whatever
happened to words are violence.
Unknown: Remember that? Yeah,
words
Adam Curry: of violence. I guess
that went out the window.
Unknown: How better to protect
these candidates? This is being
treated like any other political
incident along partisan lines.
Trump himself is blaming the
rhetoric of President Biden and
vice president Kamala Harris,
despite zero evidence to back
that up.
Rhetoric going on. A lot of
people think that the Democrats,
when they talk about threat to
democracy and all of this, and
it seems that both of these
people were radical left,
and Trump's running mate is
doing the same.
You know, the big difference
between conservatives and
liberals, is that we no one has
tried to kill Kamala Harris.
Oops,
Adam Curry: little flub there.
We haven't. I mean, no one has
tried to kill Kamala Harris in
Unknown: the last couple of
months, and two people now have
tried to kill Donald Trump in
the last couple of months. I'd
say that's pretty strong
evidence that the left needs to
tone down the rhetoric and needs
to cut this crap out. Somebody
is going to get hurt by it, and
it's going to destroy this
country.
Adam Curry: Yes, tears will
come. These are all pretty short
from this roundtable. Here's now
we add one more bit from Abby.
Here, you and
Unknown: I, Tim, were sitting on
the set the day that Donald
Trump was attacked that first
time, terrible, and we talked
about the sickness in this
country that assassination
attempts represent. It's not
about the politics of the
individual. I mean, look at
these people. The thing that
they have in common is their
complete lack of mental
stability. Why is that not the
conversation? Why are we in this
place of who's to blame is that
the Democrats or the
Republicans? The Republicans the
Republicans aren't trying to
assassinate the Democrats. And a
lot of talk of they and they,
it's just a person. It's, it's
an individual.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, because
if we talk about what's really
going on, then we expose the
whole game of NGOs and military
and money and bull crap. So of
course, send everybody off to
the weapons grade military
machine known as x to go argue
with the algos. I
Unknown: remember so well, July
13,
John C Dvorak: what you brought
twice now. The number of people
that use twitter is really
inconsequential.
Adam Curry: That's what do you
mean? The very people who watch
this stuff watch it on Twitter.
No one's watching CNN. It's a
loop. It's a closed loop. You
don't get these clips by
watching CNN. You get these
clips by seeing them on Twitter.
Would you like Twitter? That's
what? Yes, I would say I get
almost every single clip from
Twitter. If people send me a
link, it's to Twitter. Sure
people are not watching. Look at
the numbers. People not
watching. CNN, they're not
watching the cable channel.
People don't even have cable
anymore. That's what this this
is a closed loop. You can add
Facebook if you want
John C Dvorak: finish this clip,
I'd be interested. And
Unknown: I remember the
conversations in the days that
followed. I remember President
Biden's speech about toning down
the rhetoric. And I saw the
rhetoric toned down on both
sides, and then 20 minutes into
his acceptance speech, Donald
Trump turned up the volume. I'm
not blaming him for what
happened. Of course, in our
country, you do not decide
political disputes through
violence. But the problem is
that we have too much hate
speech right now.
Adam Curry: So So the whole
point of a Scott Jennings is so
then you can get people saying,
Yeah, Scott Jennings, yeah, he's
great. Look at him. Here's the
clip, share. Give me an example.
What
Unknown: do you mean by hate
speech? Because I
want to, because I want to
specifically know, because I
think I know what it is. But I'm
interested in what you think
about this, because I agree with
you. I do think we have too much
hate speech. But give me an
example,
I would say when you use the
term vermin to describe your
political opponents, so
you think it's Trump's fault
that he got shot or got
shot. Thank you, Scott. I won't,
I won't step in that trap.
That's not what I said. There is
no place in this country for for
violence, but let's be honest
about why we have so much
tension in this country. When
you dehumanize people, you are
using the rhetoric of the 30s.
I'm not using I'm not going to
say which country in the 30s,
but when. You dehumanize people,
you make it easier for disturbed
minds to do the wrong thing. And
let me just remind you of
something in 2019 Donald Trump
said that the internet is a
dangerous Avenue okay to
radicalize disturbed minds. He
was right, yeah. And he said,
remind us.
John C Dvorak: By the way, this
is, this is why nobody listens
to CNN, yeah, it's just, like a
big it's so juvenile. It's
Adam Curry: just trolling.
That's my point.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's get
to real trolling. Then, because
I have some clips, can
Adam Curry: I just say one
thing? Can you say that
everything you want? Yeah,
before you get to your clip,
what's the next piece of my
sentence? Why did X take down
this guy's Twitter account?
Who's this? Ryan Wesley, Roth,
guy. Why? I
John C Dvorak: didn't know you
had an account. Oh
Adam Curry: yeah, he had a
Facebook account that was taken
down, but he also had a Twitter
account. Why? Why? Why don't we?
Why don't we get to
John C Dvorak: stuff up on
Facebook too so the public can
examine it because
Adam Curry: someone told them to
take it down. Yeah, so, but
isn't Elon all for I'm not
taking down that tweet. No
Brazil. I'm not taking that
down. Why does he? Why does this
taken down?
John C Dvorak: Gun to the head.
Okay?
Adam Curry: Then he's not in
control of it. That answers my
question.
John C Dvorak: Of course, he's
gonna take it down. No. Why? Of
course, stuff's taken down. And
you'd think, no,
Adam Curry: I know there's a lot
more taken down, but that's not
the image he's portraying. You
know, I have a Yeah, no, I don't
have jihad against him. Jihad,
jihad, because it's it's okay.
John C Dvorak: These are musk
donations.
Adam Curry: I don't care. I do.
I do not care. I'd rather be
right than rich. And by the way,
Dev,
John C Dvorak: you are. You got
to the point, did you? Did you
throw away your Skylink
connection. I've given money to
musk. You're actually paying him
money, serious money. Do
Adam Curry: you know that the
that the Starlink was the
Starlink star Do you know that
it was out almost all day,
yesterday and and I couldn't
figure it out. I mean, because I
have a monitor on it, like, why
is this thing going down? What
is happening? What it it would
come up. It would go down, come
up. I don't know. Yesterday,
John C Dvorak: okay?
Adam Curry: I have the answer.
John C Dvorak: Well, I, I would,
if I was going to guess, I'd say
because we had some solar flare
activity that was pretty nasty.
A
Unknown: powerful solar flare
erupted from the sun, causing
radio blackouts across North
America and the Pacific Ocean.
The flare was classified as an X
1.5 on the solar flare scale. An
X 1.5 flare can emit energy
equivalent to billions of
hydrogen bombs. The flare caused
radio communications to be
disrupted in the western United
States and the Pacific Ocean,
yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: And when I saw this,
like, Oh, of course. But it
really, I mean, it had that
thing going up and down all day.
I only have my bitcoin miners on
it, so I lost money. Musk, but,
yeah, it's, it doesn't do well
with solar flares. Nothing does,
yeah, but that also, that
John C Dvorak: particular one
you're talking that this guy's
talking about, he has a Twitter
feed talking about, yeah, yeah,
that it works. Basically a
weather report
Adam Curry: on solar players,
space weather, yeah, it's great,
and
John C Dvorak: it's really
interesting, yeah, yeah. This
was, he predicted this was going
to happen last a week ago. Yeah.
Oh, Sunday, yeah, yeah, Sunday
was the big and he had photos.
It's actually fascinating, well,
but it also screws up cell
service, everything,
Adam Curry: yeah, including
setting off pagers,
Unknown: just saying,
John C Dvorak: you know, that's
kind of interesting.
Unknown: You never know. Hey,
man, I
John C Dvorak: can't get this
thing to no one has suggested
that. That's the first time. I
wouldn't have even thought of
it. But why not? Anything's
possible. You got a bunch of
bombs walking around there and
just boom, there to go.
Accidentally. We didn't mean to
do it today. Man, nobody,
Adam Curry: all right, you had
some trolling clips you wanted
to play. So we
John C Dvorak: have Hillary. I
don't have the all of it, but
Hillary comes on Maddow show no
Adam Curry: for promoting her
book, no doubt,
John C Dvorak: her 10th memoir.
And so. And it's so pathetic to
listen to these two, and it's an
annoying and so I managed to do
it
Unknown: good for you,
John C Dvorak: please. So I
start off with this matter 37
seconds of her asking, begin
asking a question. Leading the
witness and going on and on and
on, but Hillary is a hateful
person that is just beyond the
pale. But sorry, I'm sorry.
Let's listen to these clips. I
wanted to
Unknown: ask you, as somebody
who has a little bit of
experience in these things, you
write extensively in the book
about not just not the
experience of running against
Trump, but how you have felt
since, and what you think about
where we are as a country in
what is now, sort of the end of
this decade of Trump's influence
in our politics. You sounded a
very, very hopeful note at the
Democratic Convention. Do you
feel like Democrats and
Americans in general, are
getting any better at sort of
resisting his tricks, or
understanding what you see as
the threat of his ascending to
power again.
Adam Curry: Oh, threat, threat,
tricks, tricks, tricks and
threats, threats, tricks. So
John C Dvorak: this came at this
whole interview you have to
remember, showed up on the air
after the assassination, or the
Ruth guy showed up, and it was
just tasteless, completely
tasteless. And here's Hillary
coming back with her little
ditty. I think
Unknown: many Americans are
Rachel, and I'm particularly
impressed by the many, many
Republicans, people who served
in other Republican
administrations, and especially
people who served in Trump's
term as well, who are just
sounding the alarm. They're
making their voices heard as
loudly as they can above the
den, above all the distraction
and diversion that goes on in
our political discourse right
now. So I do think many, many
more people are being given the
opportunity to reject what Trump
offers, what he represents, not
as many. The race is still too
close. The electoral college is
still the big hurdle that has to
be overcome. But I am very
hopeful and even optimistic that
Americans who do not want to see
a continuation of this politics
of hate and division will reject
Trump, and maybe some
Republicans who know that they
can't vote for Trump will end up
voting for the Harris waltz
ticket as well. You
Adam Curry: know, I, I have, I'm
not going to play him, because
you have some that's tedious
enough. I have MSNBC Morning Joe
clips with Hillary. I could not
tell you. A, what the title of
her book is, or B, what's what
it's about. All she's talking
about is Trump.
John C Dvorak: Well, the book is
not about, well, I don't know
what the book see exactly.
Adam Curry: She's not promoting
a book. Good point, yeah. Uh,
here
John C Dvorak: she continues. I
think this is still her.
Unknown: I am struck by the fact
that as his campaign, no, sorry,
what?
John C Dvorak: No, it's not this
is mad out going on and on
again.
Unknown: I am struck by the fact
that as his campaign careens
into very, very offensive
terror, the association with
Holocaust deniers and the
outrages at Arlington. Hello,
Adam Curry: 2015 what's the
Holocaust denier thing? What is
that about? Do you even remember
this? They
John C Dvorak: she tends to use
stuff from 2015 2016 Lacoste
Unknown: deniers and the
outrages at Arlington National
Cemetery of all places, the
insults to recipients of the
Medal of Honor, the recent
incredibly racist and dangerous
lies about specific groups of
immigrants, Haitians in this
case, and Venezuelans in The
case of Colorado. I am struck by
the fact that as much as we
thought we might have been
inoculated against sort of
outrage tactics like that, where
everything else gets thrown by
the wayside and everybody starts
responding to his outrage du
jour, it's a way of sort of
yanking everybody's chain. I
sort of feel like we haven't
learned, and he's he's still
being taught, especially by the
media, that the more offensive
he is, the more he can dominate
the media space entirely. And I
feel like you've, you've been a
good diagnosis of that, not only
from when you were up against
him, but from what others have
done. So do you have a an
antidote for that, or a way that
people can talk themselves out
of taking that bait.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, okay. Well,
I'm sure Hillary has some great
advice for us.
John C Dvorak: This is
considered, this is to be the
nut. This is the good clip. And
it's like, this is, I think the
definition of insanity is to
listen to this. I. And thank
Adam Curry: you for your
courage.
Unknown: I think that's really a
critical question, and I think
there's a couple of things going
on here. You mentioned the
press, and sadly, the press is
still not able to cover trump
the way that they should. They
careen from one outrage.
Adam Curry: Why is Kareem now
the word again,
Unknown: the impressions
John C Dvorak: bouncing out of
control.
Unknown: Karine not able to
cover trump the way that they
should. They careen from one
outrage to the
Adam Curry: next the way that
they should. Don't you know how
to cover the news. What was
Unknown: outrageous three days
ago is no longer on the front
pages, even though it threatens
the physical safety of so many
people, particularly as you
point out, immigrants that he
and Vance have decided to
demonize, yeah,
Adam Curry: because you were so,
so good to the Haitians,
Hillary, you and Bill were You
were great with Haiti. And
Unknown: I don't understand why
it's so different
John C Dvorak: stealing their
money. They stole their money,
stole
Adam Curry: their money, stole
their money. That's it. Stole
their money. And
Unknown: I don't understand why
it's so difficult for the press
to have a consistent narrative
about how dangerous Trump is,
you know, the late, great
journalist, Harry Evans.
Adam Curry: Uh huh, who was
Harry Evans? Okay, so
John C Dvorak: I was going to
take this out to try to tighten
this clip up, but
Adam Curry: it's important, I
John C Dvorak: guess. Well,
Harry Evans is, no it's because
she because what she uses as an
example is reminds me of the old
Deepak Chopra nonsense where he
once says or the responsibility
is the ability to have a
response. He said that once.
Adam Curry: But that's a Kamala
Harris thing, and it's
John C Dvorak: a kind of
idiotic, kind of deconstruction
of words that just is
ridiculous. And so Terry Evans,
who was the kicked out as the
editor in chief of The Times of
London once Rupert Murdoch
bought it, was somewhat famous
in certain hoity toity circles.
And here we go. Trump
Unknown: is, you know, the late,
great journalist, Terry Evans,
you know, one time said that,
you know journalists should, you
know, really try to achieve
objectivity. And by that, he
said, I mean, they should cover
the object. Well, the object, in
this case, is Donald Trump his
demagoguery, his danger to our
country and the world and stick
with it. You know, they were
merciless about what they saw as
President Biden's, you know,
problems in the debate and
calling for him to withdraw. I
believe Donald Trump has
disqualified himself over and
over and over again to be a
presidential candidate, let
alone a president.
Adam Curry: I'm disqualifying
you from running for president.
John C Dvorak: She's an insane
woman. Yeah, she is. Now I have
two more clips that really have
nothing to do with that, but
they're more about how
propaganda works and how the
left likes to, you know,
notoriously, likes to change
language and meaning, yeah, and
I just want to get these two out
of the way. The first one is the
short shorty, and it reminds me,
if you remember I was on, on the
on my high horse, about
Buttigieg when he said the same
thing. This is the matto Clinton
clip five. Listen to this. Is
only nine seconds, but listen to
this. They
Unknown: have to take Trump,
both seriously and literally. He
has said what he wants to do he
and his allies with Project
2025.
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, Buttigieg
said the same thing, seriously
and literally.
John C Dvorak: Well, you have to
take him both seriously and
literally, which is redundant,
Adam Curry: ah, but it's milieu
speak.
John C Dvorak: I don't get it.
And then then there's this. And
this is a matt This is the last
clip. This is Matt o discussing.
This is, to me, a jaw dropper.
You Why you before you play this
clip, we can all go online and
look up the definition of
fascism, and we can look at
letting, let's look at that
definition after we play this
clip, which is another,
completely different definition
of fascism that they're
promoting, and if you listen to
it carefully, it's kind of a
subtext. As a Republicans, our
Unknown: next guest appears on
page 27 of Secretary Clinton's
new book, where she cites his
explanation of. Fascism. Quote
fascism, as Yale history
professor Timothy Snyder put it.
Quote is, might over right,
conspiracy over reality, fiction
over fact, pain over law, blood
over love, Doom over hope.
Wow,
Adam Curry: wow. Okay, from
Merriam Webster, fascism, a
political philosophy movement or
regime that exalts nation and
often race above the individual,
and that stands for a
centralized, autocratic
government headed by a
dictatorial leader severe
economic and social
regimentation and forcible
suppression of opposition.
Sounds like we're living under
that already, but for some
reason, for some reason, let me
get that back fascism, as
Unknown: Yale history professor
Timothy Snyder put it. Quote is,
might over right, conspiracy
over reality, fiction over fact,
pain over law, blood over love,
Doom over hope. You know
Adam Curry: what that reminds me
of? Fear
Unknown: is freedom. Subjugation
is liberation. Contradiction is
truth. Those are the facts of
this world, and you will all
surrender to them. You kids in
Adam Curry: human clothing? Yes,
there you go, pigs and human
clothing. That's how Rachel
thinks of us. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Well, I can, and
this is what Hillary quoted in
her book. Yeah, I think I might.
This is unbelievable to me. This
is so communist. It's it's over
the top. Well,
Adam Curry: while we're on
definitions, this will be my
last clip before we do something
different. Because, wow, this is
harsh for for everyone's ears, a
definition of a stochastic
terrorism. I'd never, I'd never
heard of the
John C Dvorak: term. I have
it's, I've seen this term
stochastic terrorism,
Adam Curry: yeah, can you want
to give it a shot?
John C Dvorak: I know. Okay. I
every time I see it, I have to
look it up. Well,
Adam Curry: whenever I want to
know the definition of
something, I of course go to joy
Reid because, you know, I She's
a professor, clearly, in in all
kinds of arts and humanities.
This is the best example of what
you said. Ben yourself. Magic.
Copdur de heft,
Unknown: stochastic terrorism.
Stochastic terrorism is when the
public demonization of a person
or group of people through
ideologically driven hate speech
increases the likelihood that
those people will be violently
attacked and targeted because of
those vicious claims. It's when
attacks on drag queens claiming
that they are grooming and
sexualizing children lead to
drag shows being canceled
because of bomb threats. It's
the right demonization of
Speaker Nancy Pelosi that leads
to a deranged man breaking into
a San Francisco home searching
for her so he can, quote, put
her on trial and instead bashing
her husband's head in and of
course, it's what JD Vance has
done to Haitian immigrants in
Springfield, Ohio.
Adam Curry: Isn't that amazing?
She can't see what's really
going on with assassination
attempts on a former president,
but oh, it's JD Vance, and she
has another term for this,
Unknown: because, also a second
term you need to know to
understand what these people are
doing. And I promise you, I
promise you, I'm not making it
up. It's called Dead catting,
making a shocking, dramatic and
usually false claim to distract
from a more damaging story. It's
like if a comedian threw a dead
cat onto the stage to divert
attention from the fact that
he's
Adam Curry: bombing. How meta is
this clip, she is literally dead
catting to distract from the
fact that stochastic terrorism
is being exhorted on the former
president by saying JD Vance
talking about cats is the real
problem. What is going on? This
is some deep, deep psychological
warfare this lady is doing, and
she doesn't even know it.
John C Dvorak: I don't think she
does either. It's
Adam Curry: great, though. It's
like, wow, wow. Meanwhile and
this and we got to take a break,
but residents of Chicago. Thank
god they're not watching CNN,
thank God they're not watching
MSNBC, thank God they're not on
Twitter. For all I care, they've
got it straight when their ward
what's the what's the ward
president? What you call that
the ward master? What's his
name?
John C Dvorak: The war is the
ward master. The
Adam Curry: ward the ward
master. The ward master said,
hey, guess what, kids, we're
gonna have a shelter here for
immigrants. You know, the
irregular kind.
Unknown: We're going to have a
shelter at this particular
location.
Adam Curry: Can. Comes the
chant,
yeah, there you go. Finally, you
work for us. This is the chant
that needs to be going on
everywhere. Don't you think
people have forgotten this you
work for us. It's that simple.
And with that, as we're working
for you, members of no agenda
nation, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. Say in the
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the careening all
over the place, say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one
and only. Mr. John C demoraz,
John C Dvorak: tomorrow. In the
morning, you Mr. Adam curry. In
the morning, all the ships at
sea, boots on the ground,
ourselves in the water, the
Dames and the nights out there.
Adam Curry: Hello, hello, hello,
trolls.
Unknown: Don't move.
Adam Curry: All right. Our peak
today was 2056 trolls in the
troll room. This is where you
say low.
Unknown: That's super high.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so lost. I
have no idea. Is that high? 2056
John C Dvorak: it would be, it
would be normal for Sunday. This
is Thursday. Yeah, right now. Or
at work, they have things to do.
Adam Curry: Oh, you know what
they have to do. They're like,
what are the boys saying? Help
me calm down. What's Diddy
Steen? I don't know. What's
happening with with the shooter.
What's going on? Everybody
exploding pagers. That's why
we're here. We're here to keep
your amygdalas in check and to
bring you a little bit of humor
from time to time, and those
massive amounts of trolls who,
that's right, who are not doing
anything at work. Obviously,
they're listening
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I'm not sure exactly what
happens, but this is probably
something happened. This is
probably the lowest amount of
donations we've seen in Thursday
John C Dvorak: for, I'd say five
years,
Adam Curry: for five years,
really, for a Thursday, hmm?
John C Dvorak: And you know,
what's interesting is there's
not one, which is, I don't know
if it's got, what has to do with
it, but there's not one stripe
donation in the whole pile, hmm.
Does it still work? Well, I
Adam Curry: think it will. We
don't know. We don't know. I
mean, maybe we've been
deplatformed, debanked.
John C Dvorak: It's possible,
you think could happen.
Adam Curry: So we run it on
value for value. It was actually
kind of funny. We're talking
about it the other day. You
know, we have Linda Lou patkin,
who, who, every single show, she
donates, I think, $200 and and
she's she always thanks us for
the show, and she says, Hey,
I've got a business here. Now,
do you know what that would cost
with the amount of listeners we
have if you were to buy a spot,
a commercial, an
John C Dvorak: ad? I mean, in so
far as CPM is concerned, yes,
Adam Curry: the cost per mil, as
it were, yes, yes, 4000 Yeah. So
at today's rates, that would be
$2,000
Unknown: that's pretty
incredible.
Adam Curry: It's a steal, and
I'm sure she's there again
today. We'll find out. But first
in our value for value, which is
time, talent and treasure, we
want to thank people who
contribute to the show in other
ways. What? What? No, what,
John C Dvorak: what? It's just
that she's there, and so is Eli,
and that's it, plus our one guy.
This is like three people total,
Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Well, I
guess we screwed up. What did we
do wrong? Well,
John C Dvorak: I. I'm saying
there's something amiss,
Adam Curry: obviously. No, well,
I don't know. I mean, it's hey,
if, if people get value out of
the show, they will send value
back. And if there's other
things going on their life or
whatever, maybe they're all, uh,
on Twitter. Got other thing? I
gotta be on Twitter. Yeah, I
gotta, we gotta tell someone
they're wrong.
Unknown: Go Elon.
Adam Curry: We love the time,
talents and treasure that people
offer back to the show. Just
telling someone to listen to, I
do see that a lot on on Twitter,
people say, Hey, you should
listen to no agenda show. And
from time to time, I see someone
say, Okay, I'll check it out,
usually followed by, oh, man.
And then they try it again, and
they come back. And then they
start to like it, because we
know, we know for almost 17
years, Episode, 1700s coming up,
our 17th anniversary in October,
four more years help us get
through it. We have artists who
are hands down, all of them
Dutch masters, and many of them
are using CGI. I'm just going to
keep using that. Many of them
using CGI to create artwork. I'm
not so sure about the one that
we chose for Sunday's Show,
Episode 1695, we titled it
pronoun journey. Carter came in
first time. Artist wins. Right
off the bat. This
John C Dvorak: is the only
second time in the history of
the show that at one shot,
artist won right out of the
chute. Yes, and you
Adam Curry: can see at no
agenda, Art generator.com you
can see all the submissions, and
you can see what what each
artist has done. And thank you,
Sir Paul couture, for
maintaining that as part of your
value. Back to the show. Now we
were, of course, thinking of
naming the show transcestor,
because it came up and, like,
that's a great title. You even
said show title. But then when
this art came up, which was
George Washington trans with the
with the word transcessor in it,
it was just too good to pass up.
And do you think this, this has
to be computer generated, don't
you think? Oh,
John C Dvorak: absolutely, yeah.
I mean, because I would say
that, because Carter, although
it seems to be a guy who can
really do the trick, this would
take too long to render by hand
in the time allotted, allotted
this. This was done at the end
of the show.
Adam Curry: Now, data tried it,
but he just, he just had, you
know, some rando,
John C Dvorak: Yeah, isn't that
the guy who won the Euros Song
Contest? Might be
Adam Curry: it was too, too
random.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, George
Washington was the way to go.
Abe Lincoln. It
Adam Curry: was great. Hey, I
bet you you couldn't have done
it with Martin Luther King. I
bet you the the computer would
have rejected it.
John C Dvorak: Good point. I bet
you 10 bucks. Yeah, probably
Adam Curry: Oh, he can't do
that. That's no good. What was
cute is we had a couple of
people picking up on your your
hitchhiking story. So a lot of
Ford Mustangs with the with
cheesecake girls hitchhiking by
the side of the road. Yeah.
Those were cute.
John C Dvorak: Those were cute.
There was, there was one on what
we were gonna mention, sir shugs
Loomer screwball Curry was
rejected. It was a nice piece,
but we stopped accepting
crackpot and buzzkill solely.
Yeah, have that if you had
Dvorak and curry, but not just
straight up. Crackpot and
buzzkill is not acceptable.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Kind of
broke the rules. And then comic
strip blogger had some lewd
stuff that was never going to
make it, but I guess he just
thought that was funny, and lots
more computer generated imagery.
I think that was, it wasn't it.
Think that was, yeah, pretty
much about it. There was a
pillow silence. Nestworks was a
decent try, but I don't think
anyone got it. My pillow guy
being shut up. Oh man, I can
already see what the theme of
the show is for the art the that
we're gonna have to choose from
lot of pagers, okay, we
appreciate the work that every
single one of these artists do.
You can be one of them, and
we'll gladly tell you why we
didn't pick you, or we might
pick you. You never know. I it
was great to see this brand new
guy coming. Let me just check
if, if Carter has done anything
since then. Let me see I look at
his artist profile. Oh, yeah,
he's tired. No, no, he he has
another piece.
John C Dvorak: I have to say
something about the hitchhiking,
yes, which I observed, yes, uh,
because correct a record has a
AI hitchhiker with their thumb
up in the air, sticking straight
up. There was something during
that era that was always
interesting, is that Americans,
when they hitchhike and use
their thumb, they point in the
direction that they're going.
Yes, that's true, and Europeans
always point in the direction of
the. Oncoming car with the thumb
is that they point that they
pointed the thumb in the wrong
direction.
Adam Curry: Hitchhiking was
never a thing in Europe. In
Europe, well, if it was, then
you just have a sign it was.
That's probably why it was a
Berlin.
John C Dvorak: You got the thumb
in the wrong direction,
Adam Curry: no, and I'm talking
70s, maybe when I saw that maybe
once or twice, but it was always
Berlin, you know, and that would
be it. Hitchhiking was not a
thing, because we have trains,
you know, we have this service
in Europe. Didn't need to
hitchhike
John C Dvorak: anyway. It was
just, it was a it was a fad.
Adam Curry: It was until, uh,
there must have been some movie
where maybe I was in a movie,
or, I mean, it fell out of favor
because it got deemed as very
dangerous, if I can recall, and,
and I'm thinking, was it some
movie about a hitchhiker that
got horribly killed? Or
John C Dvorak: this somebody in
the in the troll room might
know,
Adam Curry: I can kind of
remember, there was some, some
movie that, Oh, you shouldn't be
hitchhiking. Is very dangerous.
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John C Dvorak: station, or a
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John C Dvorak: yeah, but they're
also the Texaco services in per
Cassie.
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look at this. Oh, you're right.
You're right, bro. So maybe it
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John C Dvorak: Yes, I find that
peculiar. I'm gonna go jump to
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already up there, because we
only have three people in this
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Unknown: Jobs, jobs and jobs,
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Adam Curry: and our final
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Eli the coffee guy, bensonville,
Illinois, 209. 19. He says the
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stove made me laugh. One of my
friends who was all in on the
narrative recently, you want to
explain what you want to
explain? What you put in the
newsletter about the gas stoves?
I
John C Dvorak: put a headline
that because California is going
to try to propagandize the
public to hating gas stoves. Of
course, this is the sell more
electricity, which we which has
already put those big there's
already a burden on the electric
grid because of the cars,
electric cars, but now they want
to get rid of gas. And I think
it's just, I don't know who's
behind it, but the idea, I
think, is so when they do
subdivisions, they don't have to
dig the trenches for the gas
lines. That, I think is the real
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everyone would be dead in
restaurants. They have nothing
but. Gas stoves running full
tilt all over the place. By the
by this argument, is this carbon
monoxide? Well, again, a carbon
monoxide detector. I've never
had an issue.
Adam Curry: Eli goes on to say,
one of my friends who was all in
on the narrative, recently
argued that outlawing outlawing
gas stoves would help fight
climate change and that I was
slowly poisoning my family with
carbon monoxide by cooking with
one. I guess it's cumulative,
ironic, since she also has a gas
stove. And although I love my
gas stove when it comes to
coffee roasting, electric is the
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coffee guy, I'm surprised you
don't have Diddy's lube supply
as an Associate Executive
Producer today, because that's
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associate executives, we will be
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John C Dvorak: happens come in.
Who knows possible?
Adam Curry: Any big anything is
possible. Anything is possible
is
John C Dvorak: anything could
have been the solar flare? Yeah,
there you
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Unknown: our formula is this. We
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Adam Curry: I did one of those
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then Tina was listening to the
show later, she said, Hey, you
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sound very professional there.
Let me go back and fix the
John C Dvorak: head as I had a
moment where I said, um, that
out,
Adam Curry: take out the ums.
Yes, indeed. Um, can I move to
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna, you
gotta request. Yes, you gotta
stop. I have a request, request
of you in particular. Uh oh, I
like that fake podcast so much
in terms of his laughable
qualities that I think we should
make a make it doesn't have to
be every show, but I think every
so often to play one of these
fake AI podcasts would be kind
of funny. Okay, mentioning to
you, because I don't even know
where you got those
Adam Curry: things. Well, the
way you make it is notebook, LM,
anybody this is what we should
ask for our producers, because
you're asking me something. I'm
like, work. No, not extra work.
Anybody who uses notebook LM,
which, I don't know if that's
free or not. I don't have it.
You just drag a couple of text
files in there and, say, make a
podcast. In fact, comics, your
blogger, this is your chance,
man. Because I agree. It sounded
so hokey. It was it was great.
It was cute. Yes, I got Clip of
the Day. Didn't I get Clip of
the Day for it? Yes, you did.
That's good. That's good. Yes, I
wanted to move to Europe for a
moment because there's been a
shake up.
Unknown: A shake up.
Adam Curry: Let me see the shake
up is now, this is very
interesting. So Ursula von der
Leyen, known as Queen Ursula, in
circles of no agenda, was
reelected to be the queen of the
European Union for another five
years. And somehow the. Because,
you know, it's a democracy, she
just decides to change the whole
structure of the Starfleet
Command. There's no more vice
presidents in each different
area. It's just, you know, it's
just, they're not ministers, but
they're managers. I guess, of
certain areas, she's reshuffled
the areas, and she just decided
who should be in those spots
based upon gender. Europe,
you're in trouble. Listen to
this,
Unknown: the European Wait,
yeah.
John C Dvorak: Wait before you
now, she was a famous politician
that's been elected over and
over by the general public.
Before she got these, these jobs
at the she was
Adam Curry: basically kicked out
of the, I think she wasn't she
defend economics or something.
John C Dvorak: She's never been
elected to anything. No, no. Oh,
she's just a Yeah, okay.
Adam Curry: She's the queen,
though, think
Unknown: of the European
Commission, like the EU's civil
service, or the executive with
three main jobs to put forward
policies and legislation, to
make sure the legislation is
followed and to manage the EU's
budget. That
Adam Curry: seems like a job
elected officials should do, but
for some reason, she just gets
to appoint them, and then the
representatives of the people
get to say, Okay, it's
Unknown: led by this woman, the
president Ursula von der Leyen,
who's starting another five year
term in office. On Tuesday, she
announced her top team of
commissioners and vice
presidents, 27 in total, each
nominated by an EU country and
what jobs they're doing. First
thing to note, 40% of the new
commissioners are women. That's
up significantly after the
president forced some member
states to nominate them. Instead
of men, six executive
vice presidents, I assigned four
women and two men. So you
recall, the share of the college
is 40% women, 60% men. We flip
this.
Secondly, the most influential
jobs went to Italy, Spain and
France, overseeing industrial
strategy, competition policy and
the green transition, plus the
single market for
that, we want to build a
competitive, decarbonised and
structural economy.
Adam Curry: Competitive
decarbonized and circular sounds
like a tasty vegan donut. For
Unknown: that, we want to build
a competitive, decarbonized and
circular economy with a fair
transition for all, we will only
be able to do that when, if we
design a bold industrial
strategy with innovation and
investment at its heart.
Adam Curry: Now, this was so
egregious. This just determining
that she wanted to have certain
roles played by women and other
roles by men that Thierry
Breton, he's the guy who was
threatening Elon Musk to, you
know, hey, you get you getting
in trouble if you don't stop
that election interference or
whatever it was. He resigned. He
rage quit. He says you're doing
this for your personal, you
know, personal agendas. And
you've told my country, France,
you told them to, you know, that
you want a woman. He didn't. I
didn't think he said woman, but
it was clear, and he rage quit
over it. And of course, no one
cares. So here's the second part
of this announcement.
Unknown: Finally, there's a new
role. Lithuania's Andreas
Kubilius will be in charge of
Defense and Space. It's his job
to persuade EU countries to pull
their defense spending and get
more bang for their buck. Very
first step, that's
Adam Curry: kind of funny,
defense spending more bang for
your buck. His
Unknown: job to persuade EU
countries to pull their defense
spending and get more bang for
their buck.
The very first step that we did
is deducted from the political
guidelines to define our core
priorities, and they are built
as you know, and it's no ranking
around prosperity, security,
democracy. This is the
overarching these are the
overarching topics. All of
the nominees need final approval
from the European Parliament,
which will take weeks the
President von der Leyen
selection mirrors a difficult
juggling act, providing support
to Ukraine, improving European
defense and reshaping the EU's
economy to compete with China
and the US, while at the same
time presiding over a bloc that
is more right wing and more
skeptical about Brussels power.
I'm
Adam Curry: telling you, the
people of Europe should revolt
over this. This is an outrage
today. It's an outrage. Yeah,
and just I pulled a 44 second
clip of her trying to convince
everybody that now more
security, which is basically it.
A war machine. More war machine
is good for the climate. The
treaty says
Unknown: very clearly, each
member of the college is equal,
and each commissioner has an
equal responsibility to deliver
on our priorities. That means
that all commissioners must work
together, and it is in this
spirit that each Executive Vice
President will also have a
portfolio to focus on, for which
they will have to work with
other commissioners. So
Adam Curry: she just changed the
way it works. Not a problem.
It's a democracy. So
Unknown: in simple words, what
affects security also affects
the economy. What affects
climate or environment also
affects people, and vice versa,
the business community. And you
can can go on with that.
Adam Curry: Run for the hills
Europe. Run for run to Hungary.
Do something. Man, she is crazy.
Absolutely, I don't understand
how. I mean, clearly it's, it
must be legal. But it just
doesn't make any sense.
Unknown: These people.
John C Dvorak: Oh, they do. They
like to fall into this sort of
kind of one man rule, one woman
rules thing. I have a couple of
clips from China. Actually,
we've just stay in Europe. Did I
have I thought had a Ukrainian
keeping the
Adam Curry: mic, John, you're
drifting.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to
China, because the China economy
is tanking. Whoops, the
Unknown: Chinese Communist
Party's economy is tanking. But
how is that offset by their
nonmarket business practices,
and what will happen if it's
left unchecked? Entity's
Washington correspondent Jack
Bradley has more from Capitol
Hill
countering the Chinese Communist
Party's technology sector. This
was a topic of discussion at a
panel on Capitol Hill on
Wednesday. They discussed what
would happen if the Chinese
regime's unfair business
practices were left unchecked,
the US
John C Dvorak: economic thinking
is really oriented around one
thing, and that's allocation
efficiency. The Chinese system
is not oriented. They don't care
about that. What they care about
first and foremost, is
dominating advanced industries
that
Unknown: are global and lead to
power.
The event was hosted by the
Washington based think tank,
Information Technology and
Innovation foundation. One of
the panelists, Rick Switzer, the
former director of the State
Department, said, the US needs
to create industrial policy that
is self reliant, rather than
sourcing globally or being out
competed by China's highly
subsidized products. And so if
we wait for a world where a
Taiwan invasion happens and that
hoping that that will break us
out of our stupor,
it will have already been too
late. But war over Taiwan will
will mean the collapse of the US
industrial ecosystem.
I agree with that. I
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But of
course, if the ecosystem
collapses, the US industrial
ecosystem collapses, so does
China's Yeah, we're so
Adam Curry: integrally,
intimately intertwined, yeah,
what when they say it's on the
verge of collapse? What does
that really mean? I mean, what
does that thing? It's just
words. It's just
John C Dvorak: words. Okay,
there's part two.
Unknown: Keynote speaker,
Congressman John Molinar, who's
the Chair of the House Select
Committee on the CCP, said he
used to think that economic
engagement with the Chinese
regime will lead to more freedom
in the country, but it turned
out the opposite was true, and
from the militarization of the
South China Sea to unabashed
economic coercion and market
manipulation flooding our
communities with fentanyl, the
Chinese Communist Party has
shown its true colors.
The bipartisan House Select
Committee on the CCP has
released over 150
recommendations on how to
counter the Chinese Communist
Party. This may be one of the
few areas of bipartisan
agreement that we see in
Congress.
Adam Curry: Well, so they agree
on something, yeah, hmm. I mean,
I'm sorry, I
John C Dvorak: was just gonna
say before you ask me, why don't
you play this clip, which is
from NHK about the China real
estate collapse?
Adam Curry: Yeah, that have been
following. New
Unknown: home prices are down in
over 95% of major Chinese cities
surveyed. China's National
Bureau of Statistics said on
Saturday, the prices fell in
August from the previous month
in 67 of 70 major cities. That's
one more than the 66 saw
declines in July. Prices rose
month on month in two cities and
remained unchanged in one.
Looking at the biggest cities,
prices edged up by 0.6% in
Shanghai, but dropped in
Shenzhen by 0.8% and by 0.5% in.
Jin and Guangzhou, smaller
regional cities, saw an average
decline of 0.8% steps taken by
the government, such as
purchasing unsold homes have
failed to reverse the property
slump. Observers are waiting to
see if the government takes
further action. All
Adam Curry: right, so now
compare that to us. We just had
a 50 basis point cut. I have not
heard the latest DH unplugged. I
don't know what if you guys
predicted 50
John C Dvorak: bits? No, we both
kind of pushed toward 25
Adam Curry: so what does this
mean? Does that mean the economy
is in worse shape than than
being lied about? Or
John C Dvorak: is it being lied
about.
Adam Curry: Or is it to create
more money? Or what is that?
What is it about that's what
John C Dvorak: kind of the
market is thinking. Is thinking,
well, 25 Wait a minute. Why are
they doing we kind of thought
they were gonna lie. The
consensus
Adam Curry: was 25 was 25 right?
No, that
John C Dvorak: that flipped. Oh,
like days before. No, it was, it
was most people thought was
going to be 50. Oh, yes, I was
kind of a surprise to me too.
And so, so the market goes, Oh,
great, we get this cheaper
money. Oh, wait a minute, that's
set telling us that this
bidenomics isn't working and the
economy's going down the tubes.
I don't know. What should I buy?
Should I sell? It's caused a
dilemma,
Adam Curry: and I guess was it
four more cuts before the end of
the year being announced,
John C Dvorak: this mystery,
black magic.
Adam Curry: BlackRock magic is
what that is. BlackRock magic.
Meanwhile, as we suspected, the
Save act did not pass, and
therefore neither did the
continuing resolution, oh no, 13
days until the lights go out.
Just over
Unknown: an hour ago,
Republicans killed their own
bill to fund the government.
House Speaker Mike Johnson tied
the funding to the Save act
requiring citizenship to vote,
which is, of course, already law
of the land punishable by
felony,
Adam Curry: and he did so at the
back. I never heard that. What
is that nonsense? What
John C Dvorak: this is the
Democrats talking point. It goes
the following, why do we need
that law? Because we already,
it's already a law that you
can't do that. We only it. So
I'm not going to vote for it.
The Democrats pull this stunt
all the time. They always throw
in these gratuitous laws about
usually involving abortion, and
they put something in some
document, and the Republicans
rebuke it. This is just
gamesmanship, but politicking as
usual, yeah, oh no, it's hard.
Nobody's my the two talking
points I keep hearing over and
over again is, oh, it's already
against the law. You have to be
a citizen to vote, so I don't
see what the problem is. And the
other one is, oh, the number of
fraud, the amount of fraud and
the national elections, is so
minuscule you can barely count
it.
Adam Curry: It's not a grand
scale at all. Well, when these
types of issues come to light,
we need to bring out the Crypt
Keeper
Unknown: House Speaker Mike
Johnson tied the funding to the
Save act requiring citizenship
to vote, which is, of course,
already law of the land
punishable by felony. And he did
so at the behest of Donald
Trump, who totally replicans
agree to a continued
resolution. Yeah. Sorry,
John C Dvorak: punishable by
felony.
Adam Curry: Is that what he
said, Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I said it's
punishable by felony. That's
right. No, it's a felony and
it's punishable, but it's not
punishable by felony.
Unknown: Of course, already law
the land punishable by felony.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this Chris
Matthews being Come on. He's
excited because
John C Dvorak: that's not Chris
Matthews. That's
Adam Curry: no Chris, Chris
Hayes. Hayes, yes, he's excited
because the crypt keepers on the
line,
Unknown: and he did so at the
behest of Donald Trump, who told
Republicans not to agree to a
continuing resolution to fund
the government without it, but
enough Republicans voted against
it anyway, defeating their own
plan for a short term funding
bill 13 days before government
shutdown. I'm joined now by
Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
democratic California.
Adam Curry: Emerita, please.
Speaker Emerita, we can't say
emeritus anymore, because you
know, that's misgendering.
Speaker Emerita join now,
Unknown: by the way, when
John C Dvorak: did this ever
happen? Anyone ever called this
anyway? I've never heard it.
There's all kinds of ex speakers
here and there. They don't call
them on merit our America.
Adam Curry: No, they usually say
former Speaker of the House.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that would be
more, yes, gender neutral. It
would be white, poloy bullcrap.
We've
Adam Curry: already been through
this. I'm Adam curry. VJ
emeritus. We've already been
through this. This is our titles
now. John C Dvorak, columnist
Emeritus, 13
Unknown: days before Governor
shutdown, I'm joined now by
Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
democratic California. We. What?
What do you make of today's
vote? Well,
I think it's an example of
ineptitude, but it's also an
example of the President, former
president, being a puppeteer,
telling the Republicans in the
House that they must shut down
government.
Adam Curry: The people don't
control the representatives
Trump controls them.
John C Dvorak: It's all Trump,
and
Unknown: that's usually does
shiny lights on his puppet
strings, so they really look
bad. But the fact is, I'm an
appropriator, and that's where a
budget bill comes from. The
preparations committee, Laura
was our leader on the House
side, and we've always said,
left to their own devices, the
Democrats and Republicans on the
Appropriations Committee can
find a compromise, a solution.
You just have to want to do
that. Apparently, the Republican
leadership in the House has
decided they don't want to leave
it up to the appropriators, who
know the legislation very well,
and they want to leave it up to
Donald Trump, who doesn't, but
who wants to shut down
government, which would be a
tragedy?
Adam Curry: Yeah, because, of
course, everyone
John C Dvorak: wants a horrible
tragedy. Well, what never
happened before? We've been
doing this show for almost 17
years, even though we still
don't get any money. Apparently,
we've been doing the show for
almost where's your
appropriations? And this has not
happened, like, over and over
and over again. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Now Trump did post
on truth social. Truth social,
he posted, we can't let them get
away with it. We can't let them
have illegals like this law is
going to stop anything. I don't
see how this bill will stop
anything. You know, the the
people who have, uh, come out,
well,
John C Dvorak: I'll protect the
elections. The bill's not
designed to stop anything. It's
designed to get the Democrats to
vote no on it. So you can point
the finger. Look, they want
illegals to vote
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, correct,
correct. And it was Massey who
said, this is a stupid he says,
I'm not going to be a thespian
in this theater. I mean, this
seems like
Unknown: a situation which
there's broad bipartisan
consensus to pass a continuing
resolution fund the government
and avoid a shutdown. And
Adam Curry: by the way, Massey's
right. We shouldn't be doing
these continuing resolutions.
It's there were 12 bills they
should have voted on, maybe
more. They should have just
voted on them instead of horsing
around.
Unknown: But Donald Trump is
obsessed with this piece of
legislation, which essentially
is a kind of
institutionalization of The Big
Lie rant on his social media,
including many things that they
don't have to get the Save act.
He accuses Democrats falsely of
registering illegal voters by
the 10s of 1000s as we speak,
and he calls the shutdown so
this, this is both. He wants
them to shut the government down
so that they could promote the
big lie, basically,
well,
the big lie?
John C Dvorak: What is the big
lie
Adam Curry: that the election
was stolen?
John C Dvorak: What's that got
to do is shutting down the
government? Hey,
Adam Curry: we got to fill air
time. It's Nancy Pelosi on the
line. His
Unknown: lips were moving. He
was lying, and that's just the
way it is. He sometimes doesn't
even know what he's talking
about, and other times he just
makes it up as he goes along.
But it's really a tragedy, and I
just only wish they would leave
it up to the Congress to pass
the legislation that is
necessary to keep government
open. He's not even in the
government, and yet he wants to
shut it down.
Adam Curry: He wants to she's
not even in the government. He
wants to shut it down. This man
is no good. Unfortunately, it
turns out that Kamala Harris is
also no good. We have to choose
between the worst of two. No
goods, even Dana Bash is tired
of it. When
Unknown: you listen to Kamala
Harris and what she will do, you
can almost start a drinking game
every time she says, small
businesses. Let
me let me give you an example.
Part of
my plan under my economic
opportunity plan going forward,
is that, right now, startup
entrepreneurs, small businesses,
only get a tax deduction of
$5,000 nobody can start small
business with $5,000 so I'm
expanding that to $50,000
understanding again, that when
people have the opportunity to
have the resources to get
started, they're going to put
the good ideas, they're going to
put the hard work into it.
Describe the
politics of that. She says that
she also talks about being a
middle class kid. That's also
the front of her answers. If you
look at the interviews they've
been doing local media, and
they've opened up a bit more
since the debate. The first
question is often, what are you
going to do to lower prices,
which is a very hard question
for an incumbent party to
answer, and it has implicate
implications that are very
Trumpian. It is. Trump says he's
going to do mass deportation
that will decrease demand. Trump
says he'll explore more energy
that'll decrease energy costs.
Democrats can point to the fact
that inflation is actually it
was bad two years ago. It's not
now good. People want to hear
is, how do you make the prices
go down? So everything she says
is something realistic that
could survive a fact check that
answers a very hard question.
There is not a plan to say, to
say that we're going to lower
the cost of your grocery bill to
what it was in 2019 there was a
pandemic, there was a money,
money supply inflation. You
can't hit the button that makes
that go away. But Trump has an
answer that gets them through
these questions. And Harris, I
think, with a different set of
incentives and a different
relationship to something she
can back up in the policy paper.
She doesn't have an answer, so
she goes to a larger Well,
imagine a future where there are
more businesses and this starts
to ameliorate.
Adam Curry: Yes, imagine a
future so it's not good when CNN
is talking about drinking games
on your talking points, and
Martha Raddatz, oh, man, she got
mad, and she got mad and she
didn't have Kamala there to get
mad at, because, you know,
that's obviously sacrilegious,
but Massachusetts governor Maura
Healey got the full frontal
assault from a mad Martha.
Unknown: I want to ask you about
her comments about the military.
She said during the debate this
about the US military, let's
listen,
as of today, there is not one
member of the United States
military who is in active duty
in a combat zone, in any war
zone around the world. The first
time this century, our
fact checkers found that to be
false, and I have a lot of
experience in that area as well.
There are currently 900 US
military personnel in Syria.
2500 US troops in Iraq, all have
been under regular threat from
drones and missiles for months.
We also have action in the Red
Sea. We also, every single day,
the Navy SEALs, Delta forces,
special operators can be part of
it.
Adam Curry: Sounds like her son
is in the special ops or
something. She's getting worked
up over this,
Unknown: any sort of deadly
raid. So why would she make that
claim?
Adam Curry: What say you
Unknown: I think what's
important here, Martha is that
Kamala Harris, in contrast to
Donald Trump, demonstrated
herself to be commander in
chief. We are in a world where
there are all sorts of
conflicts. What reason we
somebody who serious and who
supports the military? Just
remember,
Governor, excuse me, but she
said there is not one member of
the United States military who
is an active duty in a combat
zone. That is not true. You say
she demonstrated her ability to
be commander in chief. But did
she not know about these people
in Syria and Iraq? Why would she
say that? Look, that
was a comment. That was a
comment in a debate. I think the
point that she was trying to
make was a broader point. And of
course, we have military in
place all around this country.
You're not a
Adam Curry: very good surrogate.
Get out
John C Dvorak: of here. Get off
and then she says all around
this country, yes, this
Adam Curry: is the best that's
us. Yeah, may have this
military,
John C Dvorak: have you? So
we're an active Yes, we
Adam Curry: are correct. We are
a war zone. There was this great
video I saw on telegram. Then
it's being filmed the debate. So
it's shot from behind some
heads. You probably saw it,
yeah. And then she says, Oh,
there's no one in active
military. And then they flip the
camera around. It's all these
dudes sitting in a tent, in some
in some desert somewhere, going,
wow. What about us? Yeah, but
that, but, you know, that's
Martha Raddatz, ABC. The debate
was on ABC, no fact checking
there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's kind
of interesting. And
Adam Curry: you know this, I
think it was Dan or bash, you
know, talking about the
Unknown: future, something's up.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, no. Well,
Trump needs to win. Trump needs
to win. That's why, 50 basis
points. Because let's
John C Dvorak: go back to the
Ruth guy. How about this? Oh
guys, MK, Ultra, he was never
meant to shoot. And the reason
that the, oh, the super
observant, uh, Secret Service
guy, because they was just they
let they knew he was there. As
soon as he stuck the gun out,
they took a couple of pot shots.
The whole thing was a setup,
just to make it look like
another assassination attempt.
And the whole thing was just to
get more attention to Trump.
Adam Curry: I think it's very
plausible. It's plausible
because the
John C Dvorak: guy's an idiot,
this Ruth guy, yeah, we've seen
his interviews in the after the
fact, and he's apparently, when
they took him into court, he's
laughing, yucking it up, like
he's got it made or something,
or he did the right thing or
something, that he felt like
Adam Curry: the Manchurian
Candidate who was also totally
and when they arrested him,
Manchurian Candidate, I wonder
what His trigger word was.
Maybe, maybe we could use a
trigger word and might activate
some MK Ultra people,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and tell
them to donate.
Adam Curry: That's the trigger
word, Donate.
Unknown: Donate.
Adam Curry: Um, I picked this up
from. A the guy on Tiktok, Chad
o Jackson, and I was thinking of
just telling you this story, but
he put it together so well. It's
only a minute and a half that I
figured I'd just use his audio.
Because this one, I mean, we've,
we know about the Joy Division
and the, you know, the although
never used, the whole concept of
joy, is kind of a Goebbels esque
type of, yeah, and what was the
other one? Strength through joy,
although they never used it,
it's all implied and just the
joy word. But there's other
things she says which come
directly from the Communist
Party, and Chatto Jackson puts
it together, and
Unknown: we are not going back.
America is ready for a new way
forward. We are not going back.
We together will chart a new way
forward. We're not going back
together. We'll move forward.
We're not going back forward
together, folks, this has
literally been the slogan of the
Communist Party for the past 10
years. I'm not even joking. If
you go to the Communist Party
USA website, three years ago,
communist co chair Rosanna
Cambron literally wrote an
article titled, we're not going
back forward together. Rosanna
is a communist to and through
and she's unashamed of it.
That's
how we communists work. This is
how you build that movement
that's going to be the massive
movement that we need to topple
capitalism. It's
not a coincidence that this just
so happens to be Kamala Harris's
campaign slogan, nor did she
plagiarize it from the Communist
Party. Communists have long
acted as the kind of ideological
undergird of the Democrat party
here in the United States, and
Kamala Harris is just a
continuation of that.
Together, together,
we'll move forward again. For
the past decade, communists have
been given speeches all over the
country where they have the
banner we're not going back,
plastered behind them. Chicago
has produced more outstanding
communist leaders, maybe than
any other place around in a lot
of ways. So
this begs the question, do you
continue to pretend that Kamala
Harris is not influenced by
communist ideology, choosing
instead to blindly accept the
Marxian policies that she's
pushing forward, or do you
choose not to be the idiot they
think you are?
Adam Curry: I thought that was
quite good. Well, there's
John C Dvorak: a there was an
analysis that's similar to that
about the unburdened by comment
that she used to make, yes, and
that's communist too, yes.
Adam Curry: And, you know,
commune, you either have
communism or you have a system
such as was determined by our
founding fathers, who say that
the laws don't come from
government, but the laws come
from our Creator. And so it's
really, we really are at a
either this laws, the rights,
the I'm sorry, the lights, the
rights you're correct in alien
is it inalienable or
unalienable?
John C Dvorak: I think both are
proper, but I think inalienable,
inalienable is what they like to
use.
Adam Curry: So it's either that
or communism, because communism
definitely doesn't is not on
board with that train. No, so
that's
John C Dvorak: also mean, anti
capitalist.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,
John C Dvorak: no good, because
it benefits the people that
actually put a lot of effort
into
Adam Curry: it. You see that
video where there's one, this is
a famous the YouTuber dude, and
he goes on to college campuses,
and you say, you know, what do
you think about socialism? Yeah,
I think it's really good, you
know. And so why don't we take
some of your grade point average
and give it to someone who has a
lower grade point average? Have
you seen this? They all go like,
well, that's not fair. No, I
worked really hard, say, but
people who work really hard and
make more money, why should they
give their money away? Well,
but, and they all get brain
freeze.
John C Dvorak: Well, you have to
always go back to the the basic
phrase of the whole system,
which is, uh, give to each
according to their needs and
take from each according from
according to their abilities.
Yeah, from each according to
their abilities to each
according to their needs. So
people that need more and are
enabled to do anything, yeah, we
have a little bit of that for
people that are disabled, but
for the normal person, you don't
want to do that. But okay, and
so do you redistribute things?
And that's what equity is all
about, and that's why equity is
so important to the Democrats
equity. So
Adam Curry: I have two similar
but contrasting clips, because
the Christian nationalists are,
of course, the problem. They are
the ones that are going to elect
Donald Trump. Know they've never
come out to vote.
John C Dvorak: They never vote,
yeah, but this is a vote. They
don't care. Yes,
Adam Curry: but you don't
understand the networks. The
networks, the pastor network is,
in effect, they
Unknown: call themselves God's
soldiers, fighting to save the
soul of America. Their weapon,
the Bible. These Christian
nationalists believe that
religion should define us laws
and set the country back on
track. Around
this church, you can get out.
Get out.
You demon from Donald
Trump, they might even help him
return to the White House.
President
Trump is the man that will be
bring righteousness the rule of
law and the Judeo Christian
values to our civilization.
Many stormed the capitol in
january 2021 and could have a
drastic impact on American
democracy. For many Christian
nationalists, Donald Trump is a
hero. Donald Trump also relies
on preachers to rally his
evangelical base, like Jackson
lawmaker, founder of pastors for
Trump, officially, pastors are
not allowed to tell people who
to vote for, but Jackson
lawmaker has found another way
to influence voters.
You could target them one by
one, cost you a lot of money,
take a lot of time, or you could
go and you could influence
pastors to encourage their
churches to register to vote, to
vote their value system. And if
Christians vote their value
system, they will vote for
Donald Trump.
According to religious experts,
radical Christian nationalism is
on the rise,
if you are talking about
spiritual warfare all the time.
It's a very small jump to get to
actual warfare. We see more
threats to poll workers, to
candidates, to our democracy as
a whole.
About a third of Americans say
they support Christian
nationalism, and they could sway
the upcoming election in
November.
Adam Curry: That's from France
24 by the way. And there are
definitely, definitely networks
who are encouraging pastors to
have people vote for biblical
values. And I think this next
pastor who was from the world,
what is this? Called the world
overcomers. Church is probably
one of them. There's just one
problem. He's not white.
Unknown: I can't do it. I can't
do it. I don't care what
President what color he is. If
you ain't in line with God, I
can't stand with you. You're
getting off with God because
you're trying to stand with
black I can't vote for a party
that is for all kind of sexual
perversions. I can't do it. I
can't go with a party that says
you can be a boy today and a
girl tomorrow. I can't do it. I
can't do it. I can't support a
party that wants to remove God
from its party platform. You in
trouble when the nation forgets
God. Y'all got to make a
decision, I gotta be with my
color. I gotta stand with my
color, meaning I'll reject
Christ. Color going to get you
in trouble. It's either God or
the devil. But when you vote for
people with these convictions,
and they get in office, and they
start doing these things you got
a responsibility for. You can't
separate your politics from your
biblical worldview. It's my
biblical worldview that
determines my politics you vote
for whoever you want, but you're
gonna have to stand before God.
No.
It's a big problem. Big
John C Dvorak: problem that guy
brought up to Saint Peter to
give you hell for voting for
Camelot. I have to play a
counter clip. Okay? Tick tock.
This is a talk clip. Republicans
hate women.
Unknown: I'm having flashbacks
to 2016 when all I heard was, I
don't have an issue with a woman
being president, just not that
woman, not that woman. How many
times do we hear that in 2016
and it's all coming back, it's
all coming back, not that woman.
So the people who are saying not
that woman, I'm sure, said that
about Hillary as well. And my
question is, Which woman, woman
would it take for you to vote
for? Would have to be a
Republican Woman? Because I
don't think that's ever going to
happen. Because Republicans hate
women, regardless of whether you
agree or not. It's just a fact
they hate women. They picked a
convicted felon, wannabe
dictator, over a woman to
represent them. So keep waiting.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: whoever that was,
not a woman.
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
was a
Unknown: woman, not telling me
that was a woman.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
your counter programming, right
there. So
Adam Curry: the 50 basis point,
uh, cut immediately sent Bitcoin
up the chart,
John C Dvorak: yes, which makes
no sense. Well, I guess it does
make sense. It also gold went up
and silver went to $31 which is
unbelievable, out
Adam Curry: of control. And
John C Dvorak: yeah, and the
market went up, whereas the
market went down to but America
went up and down. I talked about
that since you mentioned the
Fed, I do have a
Adam Curry: clip I was leading
into something else, but as long
as you bring me back to Bitcoin,
then I'll then it's okay, you
John C Dvorak: can go back to
Bitcoin real easy, because this
was a clip I got from a bunch of
commentary on the Fed and how
they did this and that. And this
was just some off the wall
comment research that sorry on
the rate cut
Adam Curry: research, actually
from the sound money project,
has seen the Fed increased
discussion of things like
climate change and income
inequality over the past 10
years, which has shown that
mission creep is affecting the
Fed just as it's affecting every
other institution, and
regardless of how viewers feel
about those issues, the Fed has
no business doing that. The
Fed's main focus should be on
stable monetary policy, and the
only way to get politics out of
the Fed is to tie it down with a
constitutional monetary rule,
not the discretionary policy
that it has now,
John C Dvorak: climate change.
Climate change, of course,
Adam Curry: well, I'm sure that
the white paper from Blackrock
helped Bitcoin by Blackrock
saying, hey, you know, in times
of instability, Bitcoin is a
good place to put your money
that, I'm paraphrasing to
extreme. But maybe this little,
this little Gambit that
President Trump pulled might
might have helped this was kind
of funny.
Unknown: In the meantime, we're
keeping an eye on Donald Trump.
He is in a bar, I believe, in
downtown New York, called the
pub key in downtown Manhattan.
Maybe we can play up some sound
here, guys and see if he says
anything.
Fantastic. It went through all
right. We're done. Perfect.
First transaction
by a president on the Bitcoin
protocol.
Adam Curry: He's at a burger
joint, and he just bought some
burgers.
Unknown: Hello, everybody.
Yeah, crypto
Adam Curry: burger. This is a
crypto burger, okay? The only
pay with Bitcoin, yeah, pay with
Bitcoin for the crypto burger,
which, of course, I like. I
think they're making a big
mistake, though, the the Trump
Organization, they came out with
the World Financial, some kind
of, like, token, uh, based on
Ethereum, and it's a, it's like
a lending protocol. I foresee
bad things in the future for
that. It's like, what are they
doing? Like,
John C Dvorak: Trump stakes,
yeah, exactly the University of
Trump. The kids got
Adam Curry: suckered into it.
Trump's like, oh, there's
crypto. Sounds good. I don't
think that's a very good idea.
But anyway, he's
John C Dvorak: just the non
stop.
Adam Curry: But go Bitcoin.
Thanks, Trump. Then we'll take
meanwhile,
John C Dvorak: talking about
Trump, there was an, I
personally think an energy
weapon was deployed. Yes, I
Adam Curry: heard about this.
Porter is
Unknown: a former President
Donald Trump, that were allowed
to sit behind his stage at his
Tucson rally last week tell the
news four Tucson investigators,
they left with mysterious
injuries to their eyes. News for
Tucson chief investigative
reporter, course, Nylander is
live outside the Tucson Music
Hall downtown. Course, what are
we learning about their
situation? Monica,
this is where 1000s of people
came out to hear former
President Donald Trump speak.
Last week, there was a group of
48 people allowed to sit on
stage behind Trump throughout
the event, they were split into
two groups on each side of the
stage. One side seemed to walk
away without any issues, but
multiple people seated near each
other on the other side tell me
that they had to go to the
emergency room after they left
the event here tonight, for the
first time, the Trump campaign
is confirming that they're
investigating this situation.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: that was wild.
People. Uh, going to the
hospital, and the hospital
saying, Are you sure you didn't
get sprayed with some kind of
chemical? Yeah. And
John C Dvorak: one woman claims
she's now blind, at least
temporarily, yeah? And it sounds
like, and there's a bunch of
them, they're all on one side,
and they think that's we were
unusual, yeah, I'm gonna make
sure that get upset at word
unusual. Yes, is that this,
these audiences were split in
two, instead of right behind
him, like normal, yeah, there
was this, this bifurcation of
the of the background, and I
don't understand it. There was
this whole thing was, you know,
it's unusual. It was a small
audience overall, yeah,
Adam Curry: well, speaking of
speaking of eye problems, this
happened
Unknown: this morning, new
details of the terrifying
moments 140 passengers faced
just minutes after takeoff on a
flight from Salt Lake City to
Portland on Sunday, we're Boeing
737, 900 forced to make an
emergency landing back in Salt
Lake. The problem Delta tells
NBC News, the aircraft was
unable to pressurize above
10,000 feet. One passenger
speaking out to our affiliate
KSL TV, it felt like somebody
was stabbing me in the ear.
Passengers say they knew
something was wrong, but the
oxygen masks did not deploy. The
plane would go higher, and then
it would drop down, and then it
would go higher, and it kind of
dropped down, and you could tell
something wasn't right, but they
weren't saying anything. Some
on board began bleeding from
their ears and noses Salt Lake
before making that emergency
landing with medical teams
treating 10 passengers on the
ground. In a statement to NBC
News, Delta says it sincerely
apologizes to its customers for
the experience adding the flight
crew followed procedures and
supported passengers with their
immediate needs. Tom
I feel like there's so many
safeguards on planes that
prevent them from taking off. So
how did this plane take off
without the cabin being
pressurized?
Well, by the way, this only
happens when half a dozen times
a year. It is very rare. Bottom
line, you can lose
pressurization if you've got a
bad seal around the window or
door or a valve, even valves in
the restrooms, for example, if
they're not properly closing up
that can create this kind of a
pressurization issue. We
mentioned 10,000 feet is the
magic number. Planes are
supposed to be pressurized to
8000 feet or below. You get
above 10,000 if you don't have
pressurization, people can start
feeling the effects pretty
quickly.
Adam Curry: Now, what I was
missing from the report is
Boeing. I mean, they mentioned
it was a 737 900 but this
doesn't, this seem like an
obvious aircraft issue, but yet
they don't mention that. Well,
they
John C Dvorak: did say it was a
730 Yeah, but, but they it was
so, you know, he's talking about
emphasize Boeing. Boeing,
Boeing, yeah, leaky
Adam Curry: doors, leaky
windows, even the toilet. You
know, can't we just say Hey? Is
that another door about to blow
off the Boeing? I don't know why
they didn't say, maybe
John C Dvorak: the word has
gotten out to stop.
Adam Curry: Well, it's going to
stop by itself, because, you
know, I think I got boots on the
ground from one of our producers
about the Boeing strike. Update
from work. Initially, our senior
managers arrogantly, didn't
believe the strike would last
beyond the weekend. On Friday
morning, they essentially told
the entire supply chain
management division it was
business as usual. However, by
the end of the day, they started
to consider what to do in case
the union continued striking for
an extended period, given the
tactics they want us to go with,
it's absurd to see how
unprepared our leadership is to
handle a crisis like this.
Apparently, during the 2008
strike, corporate employees who
had previously trained as
machinists returned to the
factory floor to continue
building planes. However, given
Boeing's recent blunders, I
doubt they'll want to entertain
that idea with the FAA. FAA
breathing down their neck. I
mean, this is so they weren't
they didn't even think this
strike would last very long. Our
producer says he thinks it'll
last into the new year. Ooh,
yeah, there's, there's some you
can trade on them. Short Boeing,
not advice. Um, let me see what
else he says here. Yeah, they
don't plan to return until the
new year. From what I've heard
about the contract clauses.
Boeing has about 50 days after
the delivery date to submit the
plane before penalties start
kicking in. There are also
strike clauses for protection.
Now he's going to reconfirm
that. And we have the best
producers, man, we have
producers everywhere. You can't
escape. Can't escape. No agenda,
nation,
John C Dvorak: um, let's talk to
him. I have a note from someone
that should be looked at. This
is a kind of interesting I
thought this is from our
producer, W I work at the hub in
Memphis. He works at FedEx.
Yeah. Yeah, it's what's called a
material handler, which is means
I drive a cargo thing, or,
anyway, says, he says that
they're, they lost their
contract with United Postal
Service, and they're going to
go, they're going to have
issues. And so they're starting
to treat their employees like
crap, uh oh,
Unknown: and
John C Dvorak: and the work. And
he discusses the workforce,
which is 50% black, 30% white
and 20% Hispanic, and he says
that everyone gets along just
fine, but there's their issues
ahead.
Adam Curry: Yeah, if you I
didn't know they lost the USPS,
uh, contract,
Unknown: I guess so. Man.
Adam Curry: I mean, what's going
on with Tupperware filed for
bankruptcy? I mean, the world is
ending.
John C Dvorak: Then I have a
bunch of bunch of weird stuff
going on with
Adam Curry: these. There it is,
1010, Oh, I gotcha. I got you. I
got you. 1010. All right, I got
one final clip before we take a
break here. One final clip
because finally, finally, we
have a group that's doing some
good.
Unknown: The first ever national
urban rat summit kicked off in
New York City today. The summit
is bringing together a range of
experts like researchers and
academic institutions and
municipal pest control managers,
the groups are collaborating on
ideas for best practices, on
rodent mitigation, advancing
science. Of it all, rat
sightings are down in New York
after businesses switch to use
covered containers for trash
instead of just putting out
plastic bags. But Mayor Adams
says that he would like to see
more progress in the fight
against rats. He says it's a
quality of life issue.
Could only imagine, you know,
lifting up your toilet seat in
the morning and seeing a road
come out your garbage bag. You
take the garbage you put
outside, and you see a rat run
across your feet. You think
about that all day. The
Summit continues tomorrow. It
comes as New York City continues
to focus on identifying rat hot
spots and removing conditions
that allow them
to thrive. I'm
Adam Curry: glad they have a rat
summit going on that tells you
about the state of America,
doesn't it? It's so bad, we need
a rat summit
Unknown: there's rats in New
York, yeah,
Adam Curry: but this was from
all over the country, yeah,
John C Dvorak: I guess those
rats. Rats are a problem. I'm
Unknown: gonna show my salad by
donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fab. On,
Adam Curry: and we'd like to
thank our producers once again,
who supported us today, those
who made it through whatever
firewall we're dealing with. We
appreciate you very much. Under
$50 we never mentioned for
reasons of anonymity, and those
are the sustaining donations,
which you don't get credit per
se on the show, but you should
have a good feeling that you are
helping the show out. You can do
a sustaining donation by go by
going to no agenda donations.com
you enter the amount you want,
the frequency you want, per
show, per week, per month, per
year. Whatever you want to do,
just send value back to the show
in an equal amount, the value
that you receive from it. John
will take us through to the 50s
right now. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we're starting
with Nathan Cochran and
Franklin, Tennessee, okay, from
Mercy Me, our boy. Nathan, yeah,
Mercy Me. Guy, yeah. We have, we
have musicians. We do that.
Listen to the
Adam Curry: show. They
understand the value for value
concept, because they all
started off value for value, one
way or the other. 12345,
John C Dvorak: thank you.
Nathan, which is a favorite
donation of mine anyway, Keith
Stevens in South Bend, Indiana,
12121, um, he says, Don't send
your blankets and water. Just
send your cats. Okay, all right,
they're eating the dogs. Sheila
Ryan in Paris, France, we got a
Adam Curry: Parisian lady. Ah,
Sheila in Paris. Hello, Sheila.
Uh.
John C Dvorak: She says, Uh,
thank you for all the pleasure
and laughs. Both bring in
regards from pari Yes, merci.
Mark Stokes, bury in Centennial,
Colorado, 8438 This is a
knighting, I think. And so you
can read this as we read these
Knight notes. Yes, ITM
Adam Curry: heroes. Today, I'm
writing to claim my knighthood
with a boobs donation of 808,
plus an additional amount to
cover transaction fees. We
appreciate it. I could have
claimed my knighthood on 615 of
this year, the last time I
donated. But apparently I cannot
add and I'm not smart, that's
night material, right there. I'm
still in Colorado, the gayest
state, east of John Dvorak, but
will soon be moving to the
fatter, less though less gay
pencil tucky. For this reason,
I'd like to be, hey, we have gay
listeners. Easy bro. For this
reason, I'd like to be knighted,
sir. No skid mark of the pencil.
Tucky lowlands, all right, at
the round table, I would like
anthrax lines, obviously, and
Aardvark blessing, blessings to
Adam the believer and John the
heathen. I love my truck and I
love what I do. Says Mark
stokesbury from Centennial,
Colorado, I
John C Dvorak: love my truck and
I love what I do. Kevin
McLaughlin's coming up from
Concord, North Carolina, and he
is keeping up the pace with his
808 boob donation. He is the
Archduke of Luna. He's the lover
of American boobs. He is Timothy
White in Elburn, Illinois, 6969
he wants to stop the hammering.
Eventually you'll play that, I
think the Sir Chris Abraham,
Abraham in Arlington, Virginia,
6707 not a spooky claims. Uh,
sir. Kevin O'Brien in Chicago,
606, small booze. Brian Brad
Brinkley, or Binkley. Binkley in
Snellville, Georgia, he is a
deduction. Yeah. He's
Adam Curry: of the propaganda
report
Unknown: you've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: Is that a
podcast? I think so. Oh, we
should listen to it. Dame
Denise, Queen of the cobalt
cobalt.
Adam Curry: I remember her.
John C Dvorak: There used to be
a device called the cobalt. You
had one? Yes,
Adam Curry: the cobalt cube. I
still have it. I still am
possess and collectible. I
should fire that thing up.
Unknown: See, oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: I bet it works. It's
John C Dvorak: maybe use it as
firewall. Danny, she's in damned
in Ohio, uh, 16 who has a
birthday call out for Emma and
Adam Curry: also wishes her
smoking hot husband, Fred, a
happy 24th anniversary. Oh, a
John C Dvorak: couple baronetta,
salty ketchup in Manchester, New
Hampshire. Um, 5555 lets us know
that EXO semiconductor sales are
in the toilet. That's always
good to know. James Edmondson in
South Plainfield, New Jersey,
5110 Dean Roker also 5110
Michael Van der horn, 55 with
the these health karma for sure.
Andre actually put that, yeah,
Adam Curry: let me read this,
because this came in from
several people who sent messages
to me, Sir Andre Knight of the
empty paypal account currently
night with the broken brain
Natalia writing on behalf of Sir
Andre to kindly request some
health karma, since he's not
capable of doing so himself, he
suffered a cerebral infarction,
and his left side is paralyzed.
The recovery, if possible, will
take many months, and he lives
day by day. Sir Andre hopes that
the requested health karma could
be given to him without a
donation from his part, while
people donated for him, as this
is currently not possible.
Operating his phone is very
difficult, and apparently when
he was knighted, he was omitted
or forgot to ask what he would
like to have at the round table.
So he feels some health karma
could be granted to him to make
up, you didn't have to do any of
that. We do that we we give
karma, certainly to anyone who
needs emergency medical karma.
So sir, Andre, you are loved by
many, and we have I'm gonna
throw in a goat, and I'm praying
for you as well, brother,
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Well, insofar as
throwing some karma out. I would
request some for Mimi. Uh oh,
she has shingles again. No,
she's only had him once
Adam Curry: again. I thought she
already had it once.
Unknown: No, not that I know of
Adam Curry: that's horrible.
Yeah, she's
John C Dvorak: complains a lot.
Unknown: You thought card
Adam Curry: complains a lot from
your loving husband, John, stop
complaining about your shingles.
That's horrible. That's
horrible.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
likely she doesn't have the one
on her head, no, but I don't
want to know where it is that's
everywhere else, goodness. James
Moore in San Pablo, California,
5445 he does have a note. He
says, great podcast. Thanks. Sir
loin In Winter Haven, Florida,
5430 Matthew boi there were
there in Edmonton, Alberta. 5272
is switcheroo to D douche,
birthday boy, Timothy, sailor,
Unknown: you've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: Shannon in Citra,
Florida, 5272 Aaron. Aaron.
Aaron, anonymous, cop, Oh,
that's good. Jay got that. Yep,
got it. Got it. Uh, he's in
Redwood City. He's down in the
peninsula. 5150 also a fellow
ham Darcy Midland in Midland.
Darcy in Midland, Michigan. 51
is the switcheroo. Call out for
Keith Johnson's got a birthday
coming up.
Adam Curry: He's sir Beavis of
the Saginaw Valley. It's from
his smoking hot wife, Darcy Yes.
Lisa mikalski,
John C Dvorak: 5033 and she
wants some house selling Carmen.
We'll put that at the end. And
now we got the $50 donors. Scott
lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
Luke Olson in Alexandria,
Virginia. Andrew Alexander in
Fredericksburg, Texas. Hello.
Just on the street from you.
Yeah, I guess. Corey Bennett in
Denver, Colorado. Andrew gusik
in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Michael Golob in Glen, Burnie,
Maryland. And last on our list,
a short list, I might add a very
short list, Alan being the Baron
Allen being in Beaverton,
Oregon. Want to thank these
people for making shows 1696,
closer to 1700 Yes,
Adam Curry: and of course, 1700s
coming up and our 17th
anniversary. Thank you all for
supporting the best podcast in
the universe. You are the best
producers in the universe. And
the karma for those who need it
is here. You've got karma.
Remember us at no agenda,
donations.com
Here they are in a row. Dame
Denise, wishes. Beth Cox, a
happy one celebrated on
September 8. Also wishes her
grandfather, granddaughter, I'm
sorry, Emma Bradley, a very
happy birthday. She turned 13 on
the 16th. Darcy, happy birthday
to her husband, Keith. He turns
51 today. And Matthew boibert
says Happy Birthday to Timothy
Saylor. And we, of course, say
happy birthday from everybody
here at the best podcast in the
universe. We have a had one
nighting note. We have a layaway
night Jared. He says, Man, how
time flies. I donated 203 14 on
March 17, 2019, just a little
too late for the pie episode.
Hence the 314 then I began
paying from PayPal under two
accounts. One is titled Jared. I
don't know if he wants this
mention. The other is ot fam
photography. I've has a whole
accounting here, so I guess we
figured out. Put it all
together, his total is well
enough for a knighthood. He
would like to be the Duke of
Tatanka bison run into the storm
to get to the other side. And
that's what I need to do. In the
years since I was an associate,
my 25 year marriage ended in my
house burned down, it's time to
get to the other side. Damn
cancer. He says, Well, I'm gonna
give you an F cancer. You've got
karma, and we'd like to welcome
you, Jared, along with Mark
stokesberry, if you can get out
your blade, John, we'll Knight
these two gentlemen properly.
Ah, here
Unknown: you go. Oh,
Adam Curry: oh, wow, a long one.
So Mark stokesbury, Jared, hop
up from the podium. Both of you
today have supported the no
agenda show, and the amount that
is enough to become a knight.
It's over $1,000 I am very proud
to pronounce the K the as Sir No
skid mark of the pencil Turkey
lowlands and Sir Duke of Tatanka
for you. We've got hookers and
blow, rent poison, Chardonnay by
request, anthrax and Aardvark
also here at the round table,
redheads and rise. We've got
beer and blunts. We got cowgirls
and coffin varnish, always a
favorite, Rubens, wound and rose
a geishas and sake, vodka,
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Box, and of course, it always
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Thank you both for your support.
Thank you for the value sent
back to no agenda and welcome to
the roundtable. Our brand new
knights.
No agenda meetups, part of the
value for value system. These
are producer organized. We have
no agenda, meetups.com.
Producer, run website, I should
say, Sir, Daniel does that. And
you can go there, check out, and
you can search by location, by
date. You can see what's going
on, where it's going on. There's
a lot of these happening all
around the world. The North
Florida Meetup is now competing
with the indie meetup for the
amount of P. People who show up.
And since we only have one
report today, I let them slide
and let them do the long promo
at the end
Unknown: in the morning. This is
Brian, the North Florida seafood
and sangria. Beat up. The people
of Florida are starved for no
agenda beat ups. It's growing
exponential. This is Melissa.
No agenda, 2024 This is Jorge.
Thank you for your courage. This
is Leslie, and we're still
trying to figure out who had the
Sangria. I think
we spot the spook, but it might
be the same spook from last
time. We'll have to see in the
morning, this is Rodney, my
first meet up. Beautiful,
beautiful people love this
crowd. In the morning, I'm Bill,
have a great day. Sis. Austin.
In the morning, I came for some
strength through joy, and I
found it. This is grumpy green
guy in the morning. This is
Chrissy in the morning. IPM, sir
Island dog here. This is my
sixth meetup. Great people at
all of
them. Dame Janet here, thanks
for the tip. I've
got four cases of Bordeaux in
the car down here in St
Augustine, and today I got the
whole load in the morning. First
Florida meetup. John C for
president, 2020,
this is senesta, my first, but
not last meetup. We'll be
hosting sometime soon and in the
morning. Hey fellas, thank
Adam Curry: you for your
courage. It's
Unknown: their values, Grace.
Dub, it's
a wikis. Chickies, push
back. Stay free, love God,
let's go. This is Nate from St
Augustine, great. Meet up today.
ICM, hey. This is Mary. I just
came for the beer in the
morning. John Adam, Chris, again
and I have not escaped the name
of spook.
Thanks, John Adam, for all you
do, R, E, s, p, i, c, t, this D,
from the crest city to the first
50.
Joe Biden,
if you're ready to join the
Florida producers of no agenda
nation, make sure you go check
out all of our amazing upcoming
meetups at no agenda meetups.com
Next up, we have our central
Florida Second Amendment Sunday
meetup that's happening in
October. Then in November, we
have our November to remember
meetup that's our Gainesville
Ocala glass bottom boat tour
meetup. And in December, we will
be down in West Palm Beach,
Florida for a game of axes. Meet
Up, where we will be throwing
axes and knives. And then in
January, we will be down in
Miami. Meet me down in Miami.
It's like a party,
Adam Curry: man. They do fun
little activities, glass bottom
boat tour, AX and knife
throwing. Hey, you never know
what's gonna happen in a no
agenda. Meet up, and you could
check one out yourself if you're
in Arizona, four o'clock canyons
crown in Tucson. The second,
that's the two hot Tucson
meetup. The second September
meetup, 630 this evening at
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado, Charlotte's thirsty.
Third Thursday monthly meetup,
seven o'clock tonight, as
always, at edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina. Then
on Saturday, the DFW mid cities,
meet up 1130 in the morning at
the Bourbon Street Bar and
Grill. Never too early for some
for some bourbon. Sir. Nerd
works is hosting that that's in
Bedford, Texas, the Florida west
coast, meet up two o'clock.
Three daughters brewing in St
Pete, Florida, the insane Diego.
Third Saturday meetup, 3:30pm of
course, roundtable pizza in
Rancho Bernardo, San Diego,
California, the fight flight of
the no agenda. That's number 56
that is Leo Bravo. That's Long
Beach, California. It'll be held
at Steelcraft, the Low Country
meetup, four o'clock at throw
brewing Creek, South Carolina,
in throw brewing is what the
venue is. Then on Sunday, the
too many eggs.com meet up in
Keene, New Hampshire. It's the
sixth time they're doing it.
Margaritas, Keene and Keene New
Hampshire. Many more meetups to
come, including the 28th until
birth, the Netherlands, which is
an interesting place. I'd like
to hear a meet up from there,
Bastrop, Texas, Ocala, Florida.
And of course, we have the big
Fredericksburg hoot nanny
happening on October 18, right
here in the hill country, the
heart of the Texas Hill Country.
Fredericksburg curry and the
keeper will be there. We're
looking forward to everybody
joining us. Go to no agenda
meetups.com. To find out where
there is a meetup scheduled near
you. If you can't find one,
start one yourself. It's easy
and guarantee a party. It's
Unknown: like a
me, it's
Adam Curry: like a party. I'm
looking over your list. Is this
the second week in a row you do
not have an end of show? ISO,
John C Dvorak: no, where's the
second show in a row? Um,
Adam Curry: okay, what's up with
that? I
John C Dvorak: just forgot. I
just, for some reason I've lost
my train of thought when it came
to the getting a good ISO. I'm
always on the lookout for him,
but I didn't have buying any
Well, I
Adam Curry: mean, I had, I hope
one of my two ISOs suffices. We
always like, No, I'm listening.
Well, here I go. That
Unknown: was some weird shit.
Adam Curry: There's that one
that's.
John C Dvorak: A
Adam Curry: faint it is, but
it's Hillary, and she says the W
word, she said that, yes, it's
in her book. Want to hear it
again? That
Unknown: was some weird shit.
Yeah.
Okay, next, oh,
Adam Curry: this is the only
other one I have
Unknown: really shocking,
Adam Curry: that neither,
neither one is great.
John C Dvorak: Well, the weird
one is okay, I didn't say that
word no, no
Adam Curry: doesn't count. Okay,
we'll use the W word. I mean,
who cares about shit? I mean,
it's the W word we have to be
careful of. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, time to end the show
with John's famous Tip of the
Day. JC,
Unknown: me just
JC, and if I, and
John C Dvorak: sometimes had to
start documenting these
Adam Curry: chips. Yes, hello.
We've been talking about
documenting these and trying to
get into a giblet. It needs to
be a giblet. It needs to be a
giblet. Giblet.
John C Dvorak: What have I
plugged Irfan view.
Adam Curry: I, what is it sounds
familiar. Perfect
John C Dvorak: view is the the
troll room would know if I
plugged this before Earth fan.
View is the is the image viewer
that yes, everybody should be
no, you did I have Yep, you're
good. Okay. Then we moved to,
Adam Curry: but can I just say
something for a moment, sure,
the previous tip of the crate of
Bordeaux at Costco. First of
all, I think Costco stock is up.
It's now sold out everywhere.
All Costco team members have
been alerted. There's a weird
podcast that sends people to
their store. Tina went to Costco
in San Anton, could not find
there was they're out curiously,
Costco also was out of eggs. So
eggs out of eggs, too many
eggs.com. They're out of eggs,
no eggs, no Bordeaux crates.
What is happening? Well, the
John C Dvorak: Costco here has
yet to have this Bordeaux mini
pack in stock, and so I'm still
waiting to get my couple of
batches. But yes, it's people
are buying two or three of these
things. It's Yes, sucking them
up. They
Adam Curry: should have done
limit to per customer. But all
right, do you have a different
tip for Yes?
John C Dvorak: Kurt, I go back
to Costco. Since you brought it
up. Kirkland, I should people
should know this one little
factoid, the cheap Kirkland
vodka in the 1.75 liter bottle,
which goes for 25 bucks or so.
It's cheap, huh? It's in a big,
very attractive bottle, and it
says very carefully, and it says
Made in France, that's that is
actually gray goose.
Adam Curry: No, so it's a liter
and a half gray goose, no, 1.75
1.75 liters of gray goose for 25
John C Dvorak: bucks or so.
Yeah, it depends on your Costco
at prices. But how did you find
out about this, about it being
gray goose, from some industry
insider, huh?
Adam Curry: So they're just
white labeling gray goose now.
Well,
John C Dvorak: not only that,
but if you compare it to the
gray goose bottle, it's one of
the most spectacular bottles
that Costco has, and it's all
his Kirkland lineup. It's a
beauty. It's like a big,
beautiful crystal bottle is
huge. And, I mean, it's not
useful for anything else, but
wow.
Adam Curry: What is it called?
Again,
John C Dvorak: Kirkland vodka,
but it's, but it's important.
It's, there's two of them.
There's a cheap American
Kirkland vodka, which is like
nothing. They basically here.
Have it for free. And then they
have this one, which is the
imported one. And it says, mate,
you can find it if it says, Made
in France, is made in France. Is
a beautiful bottle, terrific
product.
Adam Curry: Long Costco, we're
gonna put we're gonna man.
Another tip from John C Dvorak,
everybody. He is the man with
the plan. Go get your Kirkland
vogtech. Unbelievable. Hey,
stick around on the stream if
you're listening@trollroom.io or
no agenda stream.com, we're on
the modern podcast. I have just
two good old boys coming up. I
think that's sir gene is one of
those two good old boys well
worth listening to. End of show
mixes. We have some good ones
today. David kecta, he's doing
one every, every single show, it
seems like Sir Dr i with a
shorty. Judd Holly with a home
brew, beautiful and Cliff
custodian, Neil Jones had time,
once again, to bring us an Ender
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the value you receive. For the
past three hours and 15 minutes
of media deconstruction and good
old fashioned humor coming to
you from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in
Fredericksburg in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry, yeah,
John C Dvorak: if you really
Silicon Valley, where's foggy
again. I'm John C Dvorak. We
Adam Curry: return on Sunday,
right here with another no
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show.net, until then, adios,
mofos, a hooey, hooey and such.
Unknown: You take on the
intelligence community. They
have six ways from Sunday at
getting back at you and boosting
Trump back in 2016 but I also
think there are Americans who
are engaged in this kind of
propaganda, and whether they
should be civilly or even in
some cases, criminally charged,
is something that would be a
better deterrent. Right now, I
feel like Maga in general, they
are threats to us domestically.
I just don't even know why there
aren't uprisings all over the
country. Maybe there will be.
You know what Maga hates the
most about of us, our joy. We
are the party of fun
and giving everybody a life.
Man, this is an unbelievable
thing. Man, like we all made
everybody know ain't no party
like a Diddy party.
Everybody know ain't over party
like a
Diddy party,
we are the party of it's
like
John C Dvorak: stamp collecting
Adam Curry: podcasting. Just
like stamp collecting, yeah,
another thing chicks think is
really hot.
Unknown: Oh yeah, the
John C Dvorak: chicks we all
know from the podcasters and the
stamp collectors, stamp
collectors and figurines, Star
Trek, action figures, chick
magnet.
Unknown: Yup, yummy, yummy,
yummy. I've got cats in my
tummy, and I feel like a kitty
stew. A cat is such a sweet
thing, good enough to eat, and
it's just what I'm gonna do, put
you on the stove. Ooh, you're
Sweeter, sweeter the sugar
kitty, I won't let you go.
Yummy, yummy, yummy. I've got
dogs in my tummy. And as silly
as it may seem, I want some dog
chili or a kitty sandwich, maybe
ducks and geese. Add a little
sugar, add a little spices, add
a little kitty roast. Kinda
sounds funny. I love it. I love
you so.
And any idiot that runs some
like podcasts, they're begging
Adam Curry: smash the subscribe
button.
John C Dvorak: Smash that like
Smash begging, smash, smash.
Adam Curry: Listen to my hands
begging
Unknown: Adios, moforat.org/
vorac.org/n,
a that was some weird shit. You.