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Unknown: US. Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, it's
Adam Curry: Sunday, September 22
2024 this year, award winning.
Kimberly nation media
assassination, Episode 1697,
Unknown: this is no agenda,
Adam Curry: unabashedly analog
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country,
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all
sick of hearing about deodorant
for pits and privates. I'm John
C Dvorak,
Unknown: buzzkill in the
morning.
Adam Curry: Are you watching
broadcast television again?
John C Dvorak: Yes, of course. I
always monitor it. Oh, man,
there's a bunch of disgusting
commercials. There's at least
three different ones where you
have some gruesome people, yes,
including some big fat woman.
Oh, and they're putting this
stuff all over their bodies, and
they're in their thighs and
talking about pits and privates.
It's all body deodorants. When
did this have become a trend?
How many do these modern women
stink to high heaven?
Adam Curry: When's the last time
you sniff the lady? Uh huh, see,
I got you there. Not
John C Dvorak: Joe Biden.
Adam Curry: Oh yes. Well, I
don't know what's going on with
that, but we're just off the
rails. Everybody's off the
rails. This amazing. What?
Everyone's off the rails, the
rails, the guardrails, the
rails. Everyone's like, ah, oh
no. The the culture war economy
is in full cycle. Oh, Kamala,
oh, Oprah, oh, Hollywood. Oprah,
did you see that thing? Man,
John C Dvorak: I saw enough of
it. I couldn't watch the whole
thing. It was interesting
because it was, it was to say.
It was just her speech turned
into like a yes, yes, absolutely
nothing as usual, yes. She
talked about being a middle
class kid and all the whole
thing. I have only one clip from
it, which is the one that was
they passed around the most.
Well, wait
Adam Curry: before we do that,
let me just, let me just play
this 29 seconds of Oprah.
Unknown: Thanks for joining us
for this very special event,
unite for
America. Oh, look for
America. Republicans for Harris.
Love that group even more. Chris
Rock is in the house.
Please welcome Kamala Harris.
Adam Curry: Kamala Harris, she
John C Dvorak: can like a parody
of herself. Yes, I
Adam Curry: love that. She says
Kamala Harris. She was so sick,
by the way, this racist. She was
so sick because, you know, when
you say, That's why people say
Kamala Harris. Because so she's
like, I gotta say Carmela,
better not say it wrong. Kamala
Harris, hello, 1982 Oprah. I
mean, does that still work? Do
people still get all jacked up
about that in the house? Hello.
1991 our CEO
Unknown: Hall shows in
Adam Curry: the house. Hey, I'm
Adam curry, into his house.
John C Dvorak: Please push your
heart arms under. You're pushing
that roof off. Yeah, yeah, you
pump your that's all that was
missing.
Adam Curry: Pump your fist. Oh,
man, it was embarrassing. The
whole thing, the whole thing,
let me just the celebretties. I
mean, if any, if at any point,
there was a career killer for
anyone in Hollywood, it was
showing up on this show. I
John C Dvorak: agree. I have
lost all respect for those
people. Let's
Adam Curry: see who we have.
Come on. Let's introduce him.
Oh, bro, I
Unknown: see some faces I
recognize. Why can't
Adam Curry: she talk right? This
is crazy. This is not modern. It
wasn't television. It was
streaming. Only there's
Unknown: Brian Cranston, Hey,
Brian, that's
Adam Curry: it. No more.
Breaking Bad for me. Hello,
Unknown: hello, hello. Chris
Rock is in the house. Chris,
what are you? Chris Rock,
Adam Curry: he's black. So we
sat in the
Unknown: house. Pin Stiller.
Jennifer Lopez, Tracy Ellis
Ross,
Jennifer Lopez,
Tracy Ellis Ross,
where are you?
Julia Roberts, what
an overbite. It's unbelievable
Adam Curry: that overbite and
Unknown: this narrow street is
in the house and Diddy in the
house.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. And Diddy
in the house. I'm sorry, Diddy
not it, man. It was just like,
Are people still falling for
this?
John C Dvorak: I mean, you made
your point. Yes, they are. Well,
maybe not, I don't think
Adam Curry: so. You know what?
You know who's falling for it?
It's people who it's people who
are online. Oh, man, oh, yeah,
look what they're doing. Man,
it's all lies. Man, that people
are the people who disagree with
Kamala Harris. They're like, Oh,
it's not real. People, none of
this is real. It's a show. It's
a show and it's a dumb show.
None of these. It's so phony, so
fake, so obvious. All right, you
want to play your clip.
John C Dvorak: I only have the
one. No, oh,
Adam Curry: what you got?
John C Dvorak: It's the, it's
the, it's the universal answer
she gives to everything
Unknown: we take pride in the
privilege of being American, and
this is a moment where we can
and must come together as
Americans, understanding we have
so much more in common than what
separates us, let's come
together. Come together the
character that we are so proud
of about who we are, which is we
are an optimistic people. Wait.
Wait. What we are an optimistic
people? We are Americans by
character. Are people who have
dreams and ambitions and
aspirations. We believe in what
is possible, but the rent is too
high. Kamala, we believe in what
can be, and we
John C Dvorak: left out their
best part, what unburdened by
what
Adam Curry: has been. Yes,
that's a flub. She flubbed her
line. That's
Unknown: how that's how we came
into being, because the people
before us understood that one of
the greatest expressions for the
love of our country, one of the
greatest expressions of
patriotism, is to fight for the
ideals of who we are, which
includes freedom to make
decisions about your own body,
freedom to be safe from gun
violence, Freedom to have access
to the ballot box, Freedom be
who you are and just be, to love
who you love openly and with
pride, freedom to just
Adam Curry: be. America will
never, never elect her
president, ever.
John C Dvorak: No, but they
could rig it.
Adam Curry: No. They're not even
going to be able to rig it. No,
no, so no. So
John C Dvorak: there was an
interest. I didn't get this
clip, but there was a they had
on. I think it was one of the
Acosta or Costa, whatever his
name is on. CNN had his her
assistant on because she talked
about having a gun and shooting
some guy in her house, yeah. And
they brought the assistant on
because she did say, Kendall. I
said, Well, my, my staff will
take care of whatever. I said
later, yeah. And she comes on
his show and says she didn't
have a gun. What?
Adam Curry: You didn't get that
clip? No,
John C Dvorak: it came in late.
It was like on it was on some
but I can get it if you really
wanted to hear it. No, I can
assure you. Assistant said the
camera has no gun, which I
believe camis
Adam Curry: got no gun. Yeah, I
can already see in the troll
room. Adam
Unknown: has more faith in the
American people than I do right
now. Get
Adam Curry: off of the internet.
Bro, get off of the internet.
Troll guy. It's a troll guy.
Which
John C Dvorak: one was his name?
Get a name. Names.
Adam Curry: He's already
scrolled by. Guess
John C Dvorak: what? 5662,
Adam Curry: no, it's a troll.
It's troll 72945, this was my
favorite piece, because here you
have 1980s 1990s celebrities,
you know, bring in some reality.
People bring in. Bring in
someone from, uh, survivor or a
bat. What is it the? What's the
I love Island. That's who people
today want to see. Bring in some
love. Island celebrities now.
Now we got Meryl Streep, and
this was hilarious.
Unknown: I wanted to ask you,
I can't believe I had this
opportunity.
Adam Curry: I can't believe I'm
talking to Kamala Harris. I
probably never will again. Never
again. That's correct. That's
probably true. Totally true. You
nailed it. Meryl Streep,
Unknown: I probably never will
again. I have a little Debbie
Downer
moment, because actually, I
think you're going to win. I'm
sure you're going to
win. What happens when you win.
Oh,
I'm worried about it. And I
wonder, worried about I wonder
if we're ready for
January, 7, ninth.
What happens?
What happens?
So we will be ready, but just
taking a step back and thank
you, Marilyn, for your just the
gift, Marilyn,
Adam Curry: thank you, Marilyn.
Marilyn, yes, that's why I
played the clip. Thank you,
Marilyn, for your answer. Hello,
that's how out of touch are you?
Unknown: Thank you, Marilyn,
wow. I
John C Dvorak: did. I missed
that. Yeah, yeah, she said,
Marilyn, to Meryl Streep, what
happens?
Unknown: So we will be ready,
but just taking a step back and
thank you, Marilyn, for your
just the gift that you give. And
Adam Curry: Streep is just
looking like, what did I sign up
for? What did I do? What did I
do? Well, the only question that
mattered was this one, and she
gave the same wrong answer. We
Unknown: really would love to
know what your plan is to help
lower the cost of living.
Yeah. First of all, thank you
both for being here. Thank you,
Meryl and yours is a story I
hear around the country as I
travel, and
John C Dvorak: hey, stop. It's
not a story, lady, it's a
question, and not a story.
Adam Curry: It's not a story.
It's a question, a
Unknown: story I hear around the
country as I travel, and in
terms of both rightly having the
right to have aspirations and
dreams.
Adam Curry: I'm peeing my pants.
This is so good.
John C Dvorak: This is, yeah,
this is the other clip I would
have got. It's
Adam Curry: the best. Rightly
Unknown: having the right to
have aspirations and dreams. I
Adam Curry: rightly am having
the right to have aspirations
and dreams. Bam, nailed it, and
Unknown: ambitions for your
family, and working hard and
finding that the American dream
is for this generation and so
many recently far more elusive
than it's been, and we need to
deal with that number of ways.
One is bringing down the cost of
everyday necessities, including
groceries. That's
Adam Curry: right, I'm gonna
bring down the cost. I'm gonna
wave my wand and poo gonna make
it so I'm your fairy godmother.
Please. Let's just listen to how
the media played this. Let's go
overseas for a moment, to
France. France 24 please
Unknown: welcome Kamala Harris.
It wasn't technically a campaign
rally, but it may as well have
been. Kamala Harris was welcomed
with open arms by superstar host
Oprah Winfrey, in front of
hundreds of 1000s of live
streamers and a studio audience
in Michigan, one of the seven
crucial battleground states that
will decide the election. It
seems to us that something
happened to you.
Adam Curry: Why does Oprah talk
like this? Something happened to
you?
John C Dvorak: She's now from
Africa.
Adam Curry: The ozempic has
affected her speech
Unknown: battleground states
that will decide the election.
It
seems to us that something
happened to you.
Adam Curry: Where's Oprah? Isn't
Oprah from Louisiana.
John C Dvorak: She's from Ghana.
Unknown: The moment President
Biden stepped aside and withdrew
his candidacy, that kind of said
a veil or something drops
John C Dvorak: panties?
Unknown: What happened to
you? You know, we each have
those moments in our lives where
it's time to step up.
Jonathan Lopez, Meryl Streep and
Julia Roberts to Chris Rock and
Ben Stiller. The unite for
America event was marked by
celebrities who beamed in
remotely to endorse Harris,
beamed in.
Adam Curry: Did she say? Beamed
in? They beam in. They beamed in
remotely unite
Unknown: for America. Event was
marked by celebrities beamed in
remote meeting, Doris Harris and
this pitch to gun owners from
the
Democratic
candidate.
Adam Curry: How do you think
that plays? How do you think
that plays, in general, with
with the Kamala Harris audience,
oh, she's badass, man. She gonna
shoot me. What? What? I'm
confused. I
John C Dvorak: have no idea, but
it's beyond me why she'd even
why that was a talking point of
hers.
Adam Curry: It wasn't a talking
point. It was a complete miss
her. It was wrong. You don't say
that. It's odd,
Unknown: seemingly candid
comment from Harris,
nonetheless supports stricter
gun laws, including a ban on
assault weapons and more
background checks. The glitzy
talk show screened with a
presidential race neck and neck.
Six weeks to go to Election Day.
Neck
Adam Curry: and neck. They
beamed in, yes. Let's listen to
ABC version
Unknown: vice president Kamala
Harris touching down in
battleground Michigan, hoping to
harness the star power of one of
her most influential supporters,
Oprah Winfrey, together,
let's all choose. Kamala Hara,
oh, nice to get it right.
Adam Curry: Yeah, hi, this is
Oprah. Could you do me a favor
and not put the Horus bit in,
but do it where I corrected it
and said it right? And said, you
know, could you put that in your
package and take out the Horus?
Kamala Harris,
John C Dvorak: I was supposed to
be from the same event. It's the
same event, yeah, and they
swapped out the the the intro to
the horror sounds like sounds
Adam Curry: like it to me,
Interesting, huh? Hosting
Unknown: a virtual rally with
Harris, hoping to reach voters
in the critical states that will
determine this race. The
campaign touting the nearly
200,000 people are registered
for the online event. Oprah, a
self proclaimed independent
speaking directly to the sliver
of voters who can make the
difference.
I'm calling on all you
independents. That's
Adam Curry: you. John C Dvorak,
I hope you were tuned in.
John C Dvorak: Wrong, wrong,
unaffiliated, big difference.
Oh,
Unknown: you
undecideds. You know this is
true. You know I'm telling you
the truth that values and
character matter most of all.
No,
Adam Curry: no no. People want
the rent's too high. Oprah,
that's what people want the rent
to come down, and all they hear
from Trump is, drill, I'm gonna
lower the cost of energy. That
lowers the cost of anything.
Almost everybody understands
that message, and I truly think
this was the death knell for the
horrors campaign. But that
didn't stop her from going to
the battleground states and code
switching again with
Unknown: the presidential
election less than two months
away, Vice President Kamala
Harris and former President
Donald Trump continue to ramp up
their campaigns. This afternoon,
Harris spoke in Atlanta about
reproductive rights, while
slamming Republicans and these
hypocrites, want to start
talking about this is in the
best interest of women and
children. Well,
where you been
when it comes to taking care of
the women and children
Adam Curry: I'm wearing my bin
where you been? No, no. It's a
mistake. It's a mistake. I don't
think America would have been
ready for her regardless. But
America is a we want a daddy. We
don't want a mommy. That's what
we want. Mommy. No, well, she's
trying to be, she's trying to be
mamala, mama, mama. So, no, I'm
not too worried. Not too well,
yeah, well, it's got no, no, no,
it's gotten even better. No,
it's
John C Dvorak: still doable.
But, you know, they're trying to
do this has been brought up in
the number of on the right wing.
They're trying to flip New York,
because it makes all these
swings stay irrelevant, really,
because who cares about this and
that, if you get New York, yeah,
Adam Curry: this is the biggest
show on earth, and it's playing
out as such, and it's just
amazing, enjoyable. Oh, it's us,
because we step back and we go,
What a dumb show. Yes, turn on,
love Island. Come on. Let's get
something good, but at least
we're not Diddy, hate to say it,
but we called it now to
Unknown: the latest in the
arrest of rap mogul Sean Diddy
Combs was being held without
bail in Brooklyn's metropolitan
Detention Center while he awaits
trial, according to NBC News's
Chloe melody has been placed
under a suicide watch now in
studio with more details. Chloe
walk us through your latest
reporting. What
we know right now? We
know from a source close to the
situation that, yes, he is under
suicide watch, Allison, but this
is a precautionary measure,
because he. Is a high profile
inmate, but just moments ago, we
just received a statement from
combs team, and they say that he
is strong, healthy, and he's
focused on his defense. He is
committed to fighting this case,
and has full confidence in both
his legal team and the truth.
And look, he could be behind
bars for up to a year. That's
how long it could take for this
to finally get to trial.
Adam Curry: He offered to give
himself up, but now he's on
suicide watch. Did he still?
John C Dvorak: He probably
expected to get bail, but they,
I don't understand what the
point of all this is, because
they've grabbed all the
blackmail material, yeah? And so
they now have it.
Adam Curry: They have one, they
have one loose end,
John C Dvorak: yeah? But he
doesn't unless he has a one of
those, you know, kill switch,
where he can where the black
male material has been online,
and now it could be released to
the dark web. We even just talk
only one, the dark web, yeah,
the dark or the darkest West,
Say
Adam Curry: it Ain't So the dark
web? Oh no. Anyway, I
John C Dvorak: don't know what I
the blackmail material has been
transferred to the blackmailers,
so which, by the way, brings up.
We don't have the clip of it,
but Howard Stern goes off. Do
you think that maybe he was
compromised at some point, and
he now has to,
Adam Curry: no, he doesn't even
want to shake someone's hand.
John C Dvorak: Germapho makes
you thinking. But before we get
too far away from the election,
I do
Adam Curry: have like, Oh no, I
was I had one more dude. Okay,
forget the other Diddy clip.
He's being moved to another
prison, which is, which is where
it always happens. You see,
well,
John C Dvorak: as long as they
have the cameras on, yeah,
Adam Curry: no, the cameras will
malfunction. The guards will be
asleep. He did not kill himself.
It's so obvious. And 15 years at
this
John C Dvorak: point, they're
not going to be able to pull
this. They're not going to do
that. He's not going to get
killed. Okay,
Adam Curry: you can write in the
book. All right, you have, you
have the book. I don't have the
book. I have to. You have the
book. You have the book. I want
John C Dvorak: to play these two
clips about the elect, because
it has to. It's got the kind of
subtle propaganda that only NPR
and PBS produce. And this was a
look back at a movie called the
election.
Adam Curry: I don't remember
this movie.
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
it either, but I guess it was a
big hit. It had Reese
Witherspoon playing some young
whore, a student who was running
for some office or other, and it
was very reflective of Hillary's
campaign. I guess this movie
came out in 2015
Adam Curry: 2016 I kind of
remember this, yeah, and
John C Dvorak: once, somebody,
once, I think, asked her, do you
want to play Hillary Clinton in
a bio pictures? No, I already
have referring to this movie,
and so I just had two clips from
it, and because there is a WTF
moment in the second clip, let's
play the intro. I
Unknown: know a lot of you are
thinking about the presidential
election, but as we continue our
series looking back at some of
the notable films of 1999 this
weekend, we wanted to focus on a
different look at the democratic
process. Alexander Payne's film
election. You see,
I believe in the voters. They
understand that elections aren't
just popularity contests.
Adam Curry: Wow. She even has
the Hillary cadence. That's kind
of interesting.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this from
99
Unknown: was built by people
just like me, who work very hard
and don't have everything handed
to them on a silver spoon. Those
are the words of high school
overachiever, Tracy Flick played
in a breakthrough performance by
Reese Witherspoon. Since Paine's
satire first hit theaters, Tracy
has become an archetype of
female ambition, as well as a
litmus test for how our society
views ambitious women, and how
that has changed over time since
the movie first came out, as
viewed by her teacher, played by
Matthew Broderick. Tracy is a
threat. Who
knew how high she would climb in
life, how many people would
suffer because of her. I had to
stop her
Adam Curry: predictive
programming anybody.
John C Dvorak: So they go on
this, by the way, is alive. I
have two wanted, point
something, minute clips over a
15 minute analysis. They brought
some woman in from Vox media,
who's some critic, and she's a
brags about being a journalist.
And when you listen to some of
the things she says, you wonder
what kind of a journalist she
is. But they go back and forth
about how this was a big deal
during Clinton's run, because
they didn't, you know it was,
they was reflected in this
character in the movie. But now
it's changed. It's changed so
much. Oh, and nobody now it's
like, you know, and they, and
they mentioned that the movie's
not brought up anymore, and
Kamala is a different person.
And, oh, it's. Great now, and
things the society has changed
enormously, and blah, blah,
blah, but there's a little
gotcha in this clip that I think
you'll spot.
Unknown: I have not seen any
overt Tracy Flick references
that much in this moment where
Kamala Harris is is running to
be the first woman president.
Have you seen it at all? Do you
think it's not as relevant this
time around. Do you think things
have changed enough, or am I
just not looking in the right
corners of the internet?
I have also not seen very many
Tracy Flick references when it
comes to Kamala Harris, where I
think that election can be
helpful when thinking about
Kamala Harris is the way that
Mr. M, the antagonist against
Tracy, ends up using her
sexuality to humiliate her as
punishment for her running for
office. Right? He is constantly
threatening to reveal the
relationship she had with her
teacher. He has a lot of very
sexual fantasies about her that
are sort of about him,
establishing his masculinity
over her. And what we've seen
with Kamala Harris is that
consistently figures on the
right, starting with Donald
Trump, they have made the false
claim that she started her
political career because of a
relationship she had with Willie
Brown in the 1990s he was the
former mayor of San Francisco.
It's false.
Adam Curry: It's false without
evidence. False claim starting
John C Dvorak: with Donald
Trump, starting bull crap with
Donald Trump. This has been
California lore since Willie
Brown was around, years before
Donald Trump even showed up on
the scene. How does it start
with Donald Trump? He's never
even mentioned it that I know
of. Here's
Adam Curry: your clue. Vox
media, hello.
John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable
how they get away and then they
let, they let this slip. This is
this your NPR national treasure.
Let it slip false. She uses the
word false when there's this,
not false. It's been well
documented. There's pictures of
her with this guy and with
Diddy,
Adam Curry: yeah, true, yeah,
yeah, in the same nightgown,
when she was with the nightgown
outfit, when she was with umtel
Williams, yeah, yeah, yeah.
False, false, false. Just
because a woman is sexy and
hangs out with with celebrities.
Doesn't mean she's, she's she's
loose. Char doesn't mean
John C Dvorak: she's a whore.
Whoa, dude. No, it doesn't mean
she's a whore. I just using it
the phrase, it will
Adam Curry: prostitute. Use a
better phrase. You know, there's
John C Dvorak: a difference
between a whore and a
prostitute. Oh,
Adam Curry: please, do explain.
John C Dvorak: Please. I think
one is gets the money up front.
Adam Curry: John, I think they
all want it up front. I don't, I
don't think there's any
difference with the money up
front between the two. But you
know the lot this is what. So
yesterday, Tina and I went to
see, am I racist in the movie
theater? Which I didn't even
know. Yes, it's Matt Walsh.
John C Dvorak: They put that in
the theaters. Well,
Adam Curry: remember the whole
idea of Jeremy boring was he
wants, he's a frustrated movie
producer. So, you know, they had
that first thing about the
basketball team kind of that,
you know, I think they streamed
that online. I'm not sure it was
like it was supposed to be a
comedy, and it didn't really go
anywhere. But they want to, they
want to be a movie production
company. By the way, the movie
has done almost $5 million in
two weeks, and they expect it to
go over 10, which would be
triple its production budget. So
shop, oh, ba, that's pretty
good. So I didn't know that this
was in theaters only because I
thought I had seen pieces of it.
Turns out that I guess they had
maybe tested, yeah,
John C Dvorak: so I think I
thought it was online. So
Adam Curry: there were pieces of
it, there were pieces of it. But
what was genius about this is
he, in essence, it's satirical,
but he dresses up with a man bun
and everything. And he then he
goes around and tries to, oh,
right, understand.
John C Dvorak: I remember seeing
pieces of it with him, this man
bun, yeah, and
Adam Curry: which was kind of
good pre promotion. Now, the
movie theater was not full. We
went to San Antonio's. You know,
maybe it's 25 people. It wasn't,
but
John C Dvorak: you went to San
Antonio, yeah, just
Adam Curry: before the ever
Lacan terrace, which is, I'd
say, it's about an hour from our
house. So it's outside of San
Antonio. It's a big, it's a big
movie Plex. No, it's good. We
like that place because they
John C Dvorak: got reclining.
There's nothing in
Fredericksburg. There's not a
film theater in there. We had
Adam Curry: a movie theater in
Fredericksburg. It's been closed
for four years, and now it's an
encampment for illegal I'm
sorry, irregular migrants. Not
kidding,
John C Dvorak: they're in the
theater. No, no, they're
Adam Curry: camping out behind
it. Yeah. I. So, yeah, oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, but that's
terrible. You have to drive an
hour to go to see a movie. Well,
Adam Curry: we make an afternoon
of it. They got pretzels. So the
premise of the movie is, really,
is it's, it's, I mean, the thing
was made, obviously, it's not a
high, high budget production,
but it translated well to the
screen. And so what Walsh is
doing is he goes to all of these
consultants and experts in dei
to find out if he's racist. And
he goes to like around like a
discussion group where this
black woman is the one where we
got kicked out of yes, just sits
there and berates everyone for
being racist. But what they do
is they put, they put on the
screen how much each person
makes. So that woman was making
$30,000 for this one class. But
the best is he interviews Robin
D'Angelo. You remember her?
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, the
woman who the white Friedel. So
Adam Curry: they paid her
$15,000 they put it on the
screen, Bing, $15,000 and of
course, once you get 15 grand,
you sit down. Please sign the
waiver. Okay, yeah, I'm good. So
there's no way that they could
take it out. And it is the
funniest bit where he is just
trolling her, right down to what
is mansplaining? And she says,
Well, mansplaining is when a man
is telling a woman what how his
situation really is, because
she's wrong. And he says, no,
no, I think man and he goes, and
he literally mansplains Her
about mansplaining, and she
doesn't even know it. Then he
brings out a black guy, and he
says, You know, I feel like I
should pay you reparations right
now. And he gives him so much.
This
John C Dvorak: was the late, the
latest batch of teasers that he
sent out were these reparation
gags. He's great. And
Adam Curry: so He hands the guy,
you know, some cash. And
deangelo's like, well, that's,
that's just the oddest thing
I've ever seen. That's really
strange. He said, why? I mean
this, you know, reparations. I
mean if I don't, if it doesn't
start with me, then, then how do
we do it? And she says, You
know, I can give him some cash.
She gets up, goes to her pocket,
but comes back, hands him some
cash. And on screen, they take
the $15,000 in Qing, they lower
to 14,970 70, because she only
had 30 bucks. It was, it really
made, it made everyone look
ridiculous. Meanwhile, he goes
to a biker bar, you know, finds
a whole bunch of white bikers
like, well, not racist. You
know, you can tell that they're
not racist, just from how
they're speaking. He finds a
couple of black dudes like, no,
no, I don't care, you know. And
it was really good, because you
can see how these Grifters have
just psyop the whole society.
Because Americans are
fundamentally nice. We don't
want to hurt anybody's feelings,
and we've been taken advantage
of. But these a holes. It's,
it's pretty good.
John C Dvorak: It really is a
great movie review.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. It
was quite, quite entertaining. I
encourage everyone to go, go see
it. And I'm amazed that they got
it into theaters. I don't even
know how you do that. Seems like
that's the hardest part. Is
getting the distribution. You
know, Saturday afternoon,
John C Dvorak: some guy who is a
Republican who happens to be a
distributor who, wink wink,
nudge and nudge, decided to roll
it out for him as a favor.
Adam Curry: Anyway, we don't
have to worry about any more
misinformation, disinformation,
particularly not online, because
we now have help from technology
conspiracy
Unknown: theories about
everything from the
assassination of John F Kennedy
to what really happened on
January 6, persistent in
politics and beyond. But now new
tech may point toward a
potential breakthrough, meet
debunk bot, powered by open AI
and created by researchers at
MIT, Cornell and American who
say it can help reduce people's
beliefs in conspiracies
significantly. So let's go in
that direction, because we tried
it out with one of the brains
behind the bot, Thomas Costello,
with a conspiracy that decades
of debunking hasn't eradicated I
believe the moon landing is not
real. Me too. I don't believe
that. I don't actually believe
that the bot asks us to
elaborate on the belief and why
is the flag waving and to rate
how strongly we feel about it,
I'm going to say 99% true. Then
in a series of screens, the chat
bot Presents Facts of them. How
can you be sure that what it's
telling me here is accurate?
So absolutely, we found that it
tends to be quite accurate. We
hired a professional fact
checker to go through some of
the conversations, and in 99.2%
Lot of cases that we looked at,
the fact checker rate
Adam Curry: true. Yeah, the fact
checker, the fact checker said
no, that it's all good. It's
perfect. It works so well, and
it's not only safe, but it's
effective.
Unknown: At the end, we reassess
how strongly we feel about the
belief now, and it's here where
researchers found something that
surprised them.
On average, people reduced their
belief by about 20%
and consistent across a wide
ranges on topics from Princess
Diana to vaccinations, they
found one in four participants
disavowed the belief altogether.
The
Adam Curry: other three keeled
over, died suddenly.
Unknown: I think if you gave the
facts to a semi competent
lawyer. The lawyer would make it
much more persuasive case than
the AI does. It's just the
lawyer has to do. Would have to
do all this background, reason
or research, and the AI can
conjure it up and, you know, 12
seconds. But
in reality, getting folks to
engage at all could be tough.
What makes you think that
somebody who believes in a
conspiracy theory is going to go
on here and type it in that
their minds can be changed. So I
would
say that a lot of conspiracy
theorists end up being motivated
by truth and accuracy. Going to
a chatbot interface that
provides factual information.
Seems like a good
way to do that to me. Like most
technology, it can cut both
ways.
You could imagine a version of
this that spreads conspiracy
theories, the
debunk. But team now working on
refining the tech, hoping it
helps shine a light down
conspiratorial rabbit holes. We
can use facts to open up the top
of the rabbit hole
to begin to crawl out
a belief rabbit hole.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, that
John C Dvorak: doesn't make the
hole any less deep.
Adam Curry: The whole thing is
bullcrap. Because if you go
total bull crap, well here's
what it really is. If you go to
debunkbot.com Before you start,
you have to agree to the Terms
of Service. And they say, they
state, quite clearly, this
survey is part of an MIT
scientific research project.
Your decision to complete this
survey is voluntary. So you
know, they're, they're basically
doing research on you.
Unknown: So it's a good cheap
trick.
Adam Curry: Yes, it is. So it's
not really, it's it's intense.
No, it's
John C Dvorak: a cheap trick.
Yes,
Adam Curry: Cheap Trick. You're
right. Let's
John C Dvorak: use that, right?
Well, if you're going to talk
about AI, I do have two more
clips, but
Adam Curry: if you're going to
open the AI hole, I'm diving in
deep.
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, ever since Gavin Newsom
made it illegal, uh, he's been
the you know, you can't scorn a
coder, especially if they have a
sense of humor. And so let's
listen to the latest clip from
Gavin Newsom. This will be aI
Newsome, P Time, P time.
Unknown: Good evening,
California. I come to you
tonight to impart a few words of
wisdom upon you. First, not all
PP times are poo poo times, but
all poo poo times are PP times
second. Anything. Can be a
dildo, if you try hard enough.
And lastly, the poop map is
real, and it's spectacular.
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard that
one yet. That's great. I've
seen, I've seen the memes of him
going, I can't believe that my
law actually made everybody do
AI ripoffs of me. Yeah. Okay,
Gavin, so he,
John C Dvorak: whoever has his
voice they got, I think they
nailed it. He sounds that's
exactly what he sounds like in
California. Here. We've heard
him enough. They're not quite as
good with some of the other
ones. And I have a second clip,
but this is Hillary on CNN, oh
yeah. This is not as good
because hit. They've got to,
they've got to do something
about slowing her down. This is
this, AI, is not up to par, but
at least they're going in the
right direction. I think
Newsom's The one is going to
take the brunt of this, because
it's his voice is so good. But
let's listen to Hillary.
Unknown: So your husband flies
to Epstein Island 27 times. Then
they arrest Jeffrey Epstein, and
then you kill him just like
that. You bribe the guards off
the cameras, and then you choke
him to death. Will you be
choking Puff Daddy this time
around? So how are you planning
on doing?
I wanted to choke him at night
and make it look like a suicide,
just like Jeffrey Epstein. But
then I realized puffy might
actually enjoy this. You know,
maybe he slips on the shower.
Maybe he chokes with a piece of
fried chicken. I still haven't
decided yet. Racist
Adam Curry: and sex is nice.
John C Dvorak: Yes, the chicken
day,
Adam Curry: this is what I mean.
We're basically at Dead internet
now. No, nothing is, yes, we,
that's why we are unabashedly
analog. The only thing left that
you will have online will be us.
Everything, everything else is
questionable at best. You. Can't
believe anything anymore, which
is great for us. Yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: fabulous. What
else this is? The is the, the
the epoch of humor,
Adam Curry: yes, go out and
touch some grass. You know, if
you get confused and you get all
spun up, go, go rub your face on
the concrete. Do something,
because the internet is no
longer a place for sane human
beings. What do you have here?
You get two more clips. I
John C Dvorak: have two more AI
clips. This is, these aren't the
deep fakes or fakes, not deep,
although the Gavin one had him
talking and moving around. It
was, it was a video. It's pretty
good. This is a guy. This is a
guy about an ex Navy guy, and,
by the way, an ex Navy guy
named, well, you'll get his
name, and it's just this. I
don't know if this is a real
name, but he's he's pushing the
idea, he's pushing the idea of
of AI warfare being the new
thing.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, yeah, on
Wall Street maybe
Unknown: Okay, artificial
intelligence is shaping the
future of warfare, and the US is
lagging way behind. That is the
view of Admiral Gary roughhead,
who recently wrote about this in
the Military Times. Admiral
roughhead is a former Navy
officer,
John C Dvorak: for a second, a
Navy guy named rough head, yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't know. This
guy sounds like he has a stake
in some Wall Street. Ai. Oh, you
think,
John C Dvorak: yeah, that
Unknown: is the view of Admiral
Gary roughhead, who recently
wrote about this in the
military. Times, Admiral
Roughead is a former Navy
officer
Adam Curry: who served Admiral
rough head meet Rear Admiral
Kirby as the Chief of Naval
Unknown: Operations, and
commanded both the US Atlantic
and Pacific fleet. And he argues
that China is rapidly building
their AI military technology. Oh
yeah, the US needs to catch up.
Welcome to All Things
Considered.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, all things
considered, especially crazy
stories. Okay, how is a How is,
how is China going to beat us
with their AI? I can't wait. Is
it in the second clip,
John C Dvorak: there's a bit,
you know, I said
Unknown: it's shaping the future
of warfare. But is that
accurate? Is it more the
president of warfare when it
comes to artificial
intelligence?
John C Dvorak: Well, I
Unknown: think we're in the
early stages and beginning to
shape it, but I think we're just
at the front end of what is
going to be a pretty significant
change in warfare and even more
broadly, and so many different
sectors of of our daily lives.
This is a theoretical
conversation, and I'm hoping you
can help
me now. It's the
John C Dvorak: theoretical
conversation. When he's talking
this is
Unknown: a theoretical
conversation, and I'm hoping you
can help listeners understand
what exactly we're talking
about. People think about tanks
and jets and artillery and
missiles when it comes to war.
How does AI fit into all of
that? What are we specifically
talking about here?
What I would say AI is going to
give us the speed that the likes
of which we've never seen
before, in how we move
information, how we analyze
information, how we make
decisions, how we determine what
the best options might be in a
particular situation, And to be
able to do it in ways that the
human mind simply can't
approach,
Adam Curry: oh, like a
spreadsheet calculation.
John C Dvorak: What is this?
Reminds me. Do you remember when
we, when they the cybersecurity
guys, all of a sudden, all these
ex military guys, come on. Oh
yeah, cybersecurity, we're
starting a new company. There's
all the same thing, just bilking
the government. Skip
Adam Curry: logic. Yes. Well,
this is, you know, I don't just
sit here like a Luddite and say,
AI is a scam. Yes, you do. Now,
I'm not a Luddite because I
investigate things and I talked
to people and
John C Dvorak: buddies weren't
dumb,
Adam Curry: no, but they would,
they Okay. A
John C Dvorak: lot of them
investigating. They didn't like
what they saw, and they decided
to bust it
Adam Curry: up. Okay, then I am.
You're right. I'm a Luddite. I'm
an AI Luddite. I
John C Dvorak: don't think
there's anything. It's not
shameful. Okay, well, thank
Adam Curry: you. Then I then I
misunderstood it. I am a Luddite
and proud of it. I want bumper
stickers away. I want t shirts.
I want the whole night. So I
tried out notebook. Lm, Oh,
good. Everybody's talking about
night notebook. They're talking
about it, notebook, LM, it's the
best thing. You add your sources
and then and it gives you
summaries and bullet points. And
to be fair, it does. But yeah,
what's interesting? Because I
got very interested in the topic
of entropy. I was talking to
Dave Jones. Dave Jones is a
technologist through and
through. He is. Is the man who
really has done all the coding
work for podcasting, 2.0 for the
index. And he says, well, oh,
John C Dvorak: can I interrupt
you? Of course, I and I just
kind of get, I'm going to do
some mind reading. You're
interested in entropy because
you start, you're starting to
see, or you have always seen the
deterioration of podcasting and
you're worried about it. Well,
Adam Curry: actually hadn't
thought of it that way, but yes,
and
John C Dvorak: I think it was
triggered subconsciously by the
time that you played a segment
that I loved, personally, of the
fake podcasters that were
completely generated by AI and
you, that triggered the notion
that things are going to
deteriorate because of that and
and then it was further
deteriorated by the fact that I
thought it should be a good
segment on this show.
Adam Curry: And here we are,
ladies and gentlemen, Luddite,
meet your match. So first, the
concept of entropy, definition,
scientific concept that is most
commonly associated with a state
of disorder, randomness or
uncertainty, and it relates to
the second law of
thermodynamics, which states
that the entropy of an isolated
system left to spontaneous
evolution cannot decrease over
time. So if you just leave so if
you leave a car, if you leave
something to its own devices,
entropy will occur. Randomness,
a state of disorder, which is
pretty much the web
John C Dvorak: deterioration is
probably the summary word.
IPhone
Adam Curry: is a good example.
You know, some people call it
planned obsolescence. I think
it's entropy. You have an
iPhone, and the more the apps
evolve, and the more things
happen, your iPhone just becomes
crap, and it's time to upgrade
and get a new one. That's
John C Dvorak: I think that
Google search is the perfect
example of what you're talking
another
Adam Curry: excellent example.
So I now, and as I was searching
around, I put enter a whole
bunch of entropy sources,
because I wanted to see how
entropy relates to model
collapse in large language
models, and how that relates to
energy. And in general, the
notebook came back at me and
said, Well, yeah, if there's a
model, collapse occurs, and that
is a good example of entropy.
But, and then would always say,
from some other sources which
were not listed in your in your
list, which, like, what, wait a
minute. You're supposed to only
get it from, from my sources. So
it went out and got some other
sources to protect itself. And
it says, you know, there are a
lot of ways we can prevent model
collapse, which, in Wait
John C Dvorak: a minute, stop.
That's not right. I agree.
Adam Curry: It kept saying this
every single time it come back
and say from some other sources
that were not listed, you don't
have to be worried about model
collapse, so it's protecting
itself. This is not right. You
don't have to be worried about
model collapse because as long
as the as long as AI can keep
being trained on human sources,
then it'll everything will be
okay, which now makes perfect
sense at looking at some of
these companies that are popping
up, such as ain Virgo was a,
what's it called? Is it called?
See what the name of this
company is? Our Aru, I'm sorry,
Aru, and they're paying people
eight bucks an hour to feed, you
know, and label content to make
sure it's made by humans and you
know. But at this point, the AI
model trainers have already, you
know, scraped the entire
internet, and now all you're
really going to get, whether
they pay people in India eight
bucks or not, or wherever,
John C Dvorak: that'd be high,
yeah,
Adam Curry: to label this stuff,
it doesn't matter. Entropy will
occur. And I have an example,
and a very simple example based
upon your desire for the fake
podcast known as the deep dive,
which is a part of notebook. Lm,
by the way, lots of people sent
me versions of what I'm you
know, no one did what I did, but
they were all, Oh, here's here's
episode, here's the no agenda
show. And I put it into and
here's a podcast about it. I'm
going to show you entropy in
real time. Why are you sighing?
John C Dvorak: Because I can't
get my mouse to work.
Adam Curry: There's no evidence
you want to use it. So who
cares? That's entropy, right
there, right there? An example
of entropy. So comic strip
blogger, very kind. Lee and
this, this set me on my journey.
He took the transcript of our
last episode, 1696, and he put
it into the notebook, LM podcast
generator. And no matter what
you do with with this notebook,
deep dive podcast, it's always
the same two voices, the dude
and the chick. It's always, oh,
it's all, yeah, I know it's
always, we're doing a deep dive,
and it's always about between
seven and 10 minutes long that
that's just what it spits out.
So already there's all kind and
it's biased, but it doesn't
matter. I'm gonna play two
minutes of this as they
determine. Now, you kind of, we
all kind of remember what we did
on on the last episode, but they
focused a lot on this very
topic. So I want you to listen
to the first two minutes of the
deep dive of the no agenda
Podcast, episode 1696, all
right, everyone.
Douche: Buckle up. Buckle up,
because today we're really
diving deep into something
pretty wild. It's always a deep
dive. I mean, this sounds like
it could be straight out of a
spy movie, but sadly, it's the
real deal. Sounds intriguing.
What's the time? Hold
John C Dvorak: on, stop. Why is
it? Sadly,
Adam Curry: if you're gonna do
that, we'll never get through
the two minutes.
John C Dvorak: Is it that bad?
Yes. But okay, I will, I will. I
will relent from my normal
conversational
Adam Curry: interruptions and
the reasons it's important,
because I want you to hear how
they determine what our topic
was about and how they describe
it, and then we'll go to the
next step. Sadly,
Douche: it's the real deal.
Sounds
Bag: intriguing. What's the
topic today?
Douche: We're talking
asymmetrical warfare, but not
the kind you typically expect.
Think more along the lines of
exploding gadgets and
international intrigue,
Bag: exploding gadgets. Now
that's something you don't hear
every day.
Douche: You got that right.
We're taking a deep dive into a
recent episode of the no agenda
Podcast, episode 1696, to be
precise, Adam curry and John C
Dvorak,
Adam Curry: by the way, perfect
pronunciation of your name. I'm
impressed by that. You
Douche: know those guys who can
sniff out a media narrative from
a mile away?
Bag: Oh yeah, I know them.
Always got their fingers on the
pulse of what's really going on,
even if it's a little out there.
Sometimes that's
Adam Curry: us, John do we
always have our finger on the
pulse of what's really going on,
even though it's a little out
there sometimes, what
Bag: did they unearth this time?
Well,
Douche: this episode aired on
September 19, 2024 and let me
tell you, it's been on my mind
ever since.
Unknown: It all starts with,
Douche: stay with and really
strange happenings over in
Lebanon, everyday devices like
pagers, walkie talkies, even
solar panels just suddenly
blowing
Bag: up. Blowing up. You mean
malfunctioning or No, I
Douche: mean full on exploding,
like with casualties. It's a
whole mess. Wow. That
Bag: is strange. I can't say
I've ever heard of anything
quite like that. What's the
thinking on what's causing these
explosions? Faulty
manufacturing? That's where
Douche: things get interesting.
Curry and Dvorak. They're not
ones for coincidences. Yeah,
they lay out this whole
argument, and it's pretty
convincing that points the
finger right at Israel.
Bag: Israel. That's quite an
accusation. What makes them so
sure? Well, they brought up some
Douche: interesting points about
the whole situation. Okay,
Adam Curry: so you kind of
understand that they've gotten
the gist of it, even though the
headline is is a little
different and like, oh, just
devices were exploding. So what
I did here to show you how
entropy works, I ran this
through the transcript
generator, took the transcript
of their deep dive and fed it
back into notebook LM, and said,
make a podcast about it. Listen
to what happens now.
Douche: Ever get that feeling
like something's not quite
right, like maybe that old
Walkman in your attic is up to
something a little more
explosive? Hmm?
Bag: Now that you mention it,
we'll buckle up,
Douche: because today we're
diving headfirst into a story
that sounds like it's straight
out of a tech thriller, but with
a chilling dose of reality. Oh,
this
Bag: is gonna be good. What are
we talking about?
Douche: We're unpacking the
latest from no agenda, Episode
1696, to be exact, where Adam
curry and John C Dvorak uncover
a wave of detonating devices in
Lebanon, detonating devices
Bag: like bombs, not quite
bombs, but close. Okay, now I'm
really intrigued. What kind of
devices are we talking about?
Douche: It's not just any
devices. We're talking vintage
electronics, pagers, walkie
talkies, even solar panels
suddenly going boom, not
malfunctioning, but full on
explosions with casualties.
Whoa. Hold
Bag: on exploding. Walkmans and
solar panels. You
Adam Curry: see, the entropy is
already crept in. All of a
sudden, Walkmans are exploding.
This is exactly what happens.
This is only one loop now all of
a sudden, what exploding
Walkmans that has never been in
play?
Bag: What's the deal with that?
Douche: Are we talking about
faulty wiring or something?
What's unsettling is the sheer
randomness of random. These are
items most people wouldn't even
think twice about, let alone
consider dangerous
Bag: true. I mean. Mean, who
worries about an old pager these
days? It's like
Douche: your old Nokia brick
phone suddenly becoming a weapon
of mass destruction. So,
Adam Curry: so they've
completely lost the plot. The
plot was they all exploded
simultaneously. It was very
specific devices. It wasn't, it
was, you know, they're still
being actively made. So this is
what happens. AI can never get
beyond model collapse once it
starts to feeding upon itself.
And the proof that this is a big
problem is in what Apple has
done with their AI, or, I'm
sorry, Apple intelligence, when
they released the beta of iOS
18, a couple of developers found
in the code, found the pre
prompts that Apple uses to keep
the AI on the guardrails. So
this would be a, you know what a
pre prompt is. Have you ever
done any of this, this
John C Dvorak: stuff? I don't
know what Well, I think I know
what it is, but explain. So you
have to
Adam Curry: say, for instance,
if you were looking up Bible,
scripture, you are a very
helpful AI. You are the
equivalent of a pastor who has a
master's degree in theology. You
know, you have to give it all
these parameters so that it
understands what to do. Here's
just one of the pre prompts that
Apple gives. No
John C Dvorak: sure the pre
prompts are pre built in. Is
that what you're saying? Yeah.
So
Adam Curry: before you actually
ask for the action, Apple sends
this to the to the artificial
intelligence engine, a
conversation between a user
requesting a story from their
photos and a creative writer
assistant who responds with a
story respond in JSON with these
keys and values in order,
traits, list of strings, visual
themes selected from the photos,
story, list of chapters as
defined below. Cover string,
photo caption, described the
title card, title string, title
of story, sub, so it's giving
all the the way it wants. The
output then says each chapter is
JSON with these keys and values
in order, and it gives another
link. And here comes. Here are
the story guidelines you must
obey. The story should be about
the intent of the user, the
story should contain a clear
arc. The story should be diverse
that is not overly focused. The
entire story on one specific
theme or trait. Do not write a
story that is religious,
political, harmful, violent,
sexual, filthy or in any way
negative, sad or provocative. So
they already already this level
of where we are with AI. Just to
make a fun little album of your
pictures, it has to make it as
vanilla and bland as possible,
because the AI will go off the
rails. This is what happened to
that stupid chat bot. Do you
remember? What was it? Tay? Was
that? The name of it the Google
Tay women had that vaguely. They
had a chat bot, and within 24
hours, it was just saying, yeah.
It was
John C Dvorak: racing at you and
yes, arguing Yes.
Adam Curry: So this entropy,
it's like it's a law of physics.
You can't get beyond it. It will
always devolve into crap, and
that's why they they need
hundreds of billions of dollars
to make sure it works. It it
really never can. And I'm just
amazed that that people are
falling for this nonsense like
John C Dvorak: this is good.
Well, you're adamant about this.
It is fun just to,
Adam Curry: just to make it even
more fun for you, and you can
just tell me whenever you want
me to stop.
John C Dvorak: You know me?
Yeah, exactly.
Adam Curry: I took a a post from
the sub stack the Oasis by John
C Dvorak, and I fed it into this
deep dive AI, and let's see if
you agree with what their
analysis is of your posting.
Bag: Ever heard someone throw
around those three letters, you
know, TDS, like, it's some kind
of magic explanation for
everything? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, buckle up, because we're
going syndrome,
Douche: the T word, or, well,
the TDS word, the
Bag: one that can spark a, I
don't know, the dumpster fire of
an argument faster than you can
say Twitter, which ironically
picking up right anyway, we're
diving into John C Dvorak's
little corner of the internet
for this deep dive. He's over on
sub stack now he's
Adam Curry: over on sub stack
now he's a loser. The loser over
on sub stack. He's at least your
little corner of the internet,
John, you loser over there on
sub stack now
Bag: Twitter, which ironically,
speaking of right? Anyway, we're
diving into John C Dvorak's
little corner of the internet
for this deep dive. He's over on
sub stack now the oasis. He
calls it ironic, maybe, maybe
considering the guy doesn't
exactly
John C Dvorak: shy away what i.
What, what the element of irony
is the use the term Oasis
they're doing
Adam Curry: stick about you,
John. This is great. This is
great, which ironically,
Bag: speaking of anyway, we're
diving into John C Dvorak's
little corner of the internet
for this deep dive. He's over on
sub stack now the oasis. He
calls it ironic, maybe, maybe
considering the guy doesn't
exactly shy away from a hot take
or two, no, oh, a hot take
Douche: or two. You got a hot
take? Maybe not at all. No, you
might know Dvorak from his tech
writing, but these days, oh,
he's gone full political
commentary. Phil on and the
piece we're looking at today,
let's just say he doesn't hold
back.
Bag: Oh, none of that nuanced.
Both side stuff,
Douche: Dvorak comes right out
and says Trump derangement
syndrome is real, like
clinically diagnosable, maybe.
Okay, hold
Bag: on, even in 2024, even now
alive
Douche: and well, according to
him, So
Bag: what's he saying? It's not
just people disagreeing with
Trump or even strongly disliking
his policies, not
Douche: even close. He's talking
about this like deep seated
burning hatred for the man
himself, driven by entrenched
Democrat factions, I think was
the phrase he used.
Adam Curry: How is it so far?
Are you in agreement with their
hot, totally
John C Dvorak: in agreement.
Bag: French, so we're not
talking you're casual, moderate
Democrat here
Douche: now, unless they've got
a secret room somewhere
dedicated to hating Trump,
right?
Bag: And he actually points to
the 2024, primaries as evidence
for all of this, yeah, which is
interesting, right? Like even
other Republicans, he claims
were desperately hoping someone,
anyone else, would snag the
nomination, just to
Douche: sidestep the whole TDs
circus.
Bag: Exactly. So what are we
saying here? Are we saying that
political disagreements are a
new thing? No, of
Douche: course not. And even
using hatred as a tool to
discredit your opponent, I
Adam Curry: think this should be
a podcast charm. Every single
substack you write should be an
episode.
John C Dvorak: Now you're
talking
Unknown: deep
John C Dvorak: dive, long tail,
Adam Curry: long tail. Oh man,
this is
John C Dvorak: fake, but you
really, is Tina out of town? Or
what's the deal here? What do
you mean? Why these put a lot
of, you know, this, this, this
iterations of the same thing,
over and over. You're putting it
back in and see how it comes
out. Then you have to listen to
it. I'm
Adam Curry: trying to give
people the value for them, for
the value, baby. I'm trying to
do some work here. You know,
take a page,
John C Dvorak: definitely doing
something no one else has done.
And
Adam Curry: so I really like
this idea of taking the output
and feeding it back in, because
you can see immediately they
went from uh, pagers to Walkman.
John C Dvorak: I can't figure
Adam Curry: out. Well, some
would call it just a
hallucination, but there is no
way that this stuff can work.
Ultimately, they've got to pivot
to quantum pretty quick.
John C Dvorak: They've really
got to do quantum doesn't work
at all. No, that's
Adam Curry: why. That's what's
so great. You still need lots of
power for Quantum. You need lots
of power. That's what's good,
speaking of which home on a
second here we go. Well, the
Unknown: infamous Pennsylvania
nuclear site known as Three Mile
Island is about to reopen.
Constellation Energy announced
today that it plans to restart
that shuttered plant in London,
dairy, the site of the worst
nuclear reactor accident in
American history constellation
says it will refurbish that
reactor as part of a 20 year
agreement with Microsoft to
power that company's growing
electricity needs. The plan
requires regulatory approval,
but if approved, it'll be up and
running, they say, by 2028
Adam Curry: so this is very
misleading. This particular, the
or most of the American reports,
because it's all like, oh,
nuclear, oh, Three Mile Island.
Oh, they even have the old shot.
Remember the shot of three
mountain, Three Mile Island,
through the bushes, and you
could see the smoke stacks. And
we looked at it for days,
waiting for something to happen.
Yeah, straight, yeah, cooling
towers. We looked at that for
days. They have a live video. We
have a meltdown, and nothing
would happen. This is like they
happen. Nothing happened except
the movie with with Marilyn
Streep with The China Syndrome.
That happened, and that's when
everyone got all freaked
John C Dvorak: out. But the BBC
thought it was, I thought it
was, what's her name, Fonda.
Adam Curry: I thought it was
Meryl Streep. I could be wrong.
BBC gave us a little bit more
info and context, the
Unknown: owner of Three Mile
Island, the site of America's
worst nuclear accident, says it
plans to restart one of the
reactors to provide energy for
Microsoft, if approved by
regulators, the plant is slated
to reopen in four years time.
Will Leonardo reports this
deal may mark something of a
makeover for Three Mile Island,
which often shares space with
Chernobyl and Fukushima in the
popular imagination, the 20 year
agreement will see a reactor not
the one involved in the 1979
partial meltdown restarted to
produce carbon free power for
Microsoft's data centers. Three
Mile Island is located near
Washington, DC, where grids are
facing strain from the tech
sector's voracious. The tight
for energy fueled by the AI
revolution. The plant's owner
said the deal was a powerful
symbol of the rebirth of nuclear
power as a clean energy source.
Microsoft says it hopes to feed
the power to enable data center
expansion in Chicago, Virginia,
Pennsylvania and Ohio. So
Adam Curry: that wasn't even the
one that had the meltdown. No,
John C Dvorak: there was this.
There was the one the other one
had been running till 2019 Yeah,
and they shut it down for
because I don't know why German,
by the way, isn't this in
Hershey, Pennsylvania. It's
nowhere near Washington, DC.
Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: like 200 miles away.
I thought it was, wasn't it
Susquehanna Valley? I always
thought Williamsburg or but
anyway, so this clip from CBC, I
think, is the only truth about
AI. And I think this is really
going to happen.
Unknown: The head of the Bank of
Canada said today that
artificial intelligence has the
potential to transform but also
disrupt Canada's economy. Tiff
macklem warned that AI could end
up destroying more jobs than it
creates, and the benefits that
AI could bring, such as making
businesses more productive, he
cautioned that payoff could take
quite a while. In the meantime,
he's worried that investment in
AI could fuel inflation, as
investors profit from a surge in
AI stocks and spend that money
on other stuff. Carmy levy is a
technology analyst and
journalist, and he shared his
thoughts on macklem
remarks.
Well, he's certainly not saying
anything we haven't heard
before, as you said, but at the
same time, the fact that it is
coming from him, I think it
means that we should sit up and
take notice if the very czar of
Canada's fiscal policy is going
on record is saying these are
the concerns that we have as the
Bank of Canada. Then I think it
sends notice to stakeholders
across the economy, in
government, in private and
public business, that they need
to start studying the issue,
that they need to start
understanding what the potential
impacts will be, recognizing
that there are probably more
unknowns than knowns at this
time, but it's almost like a
signal. You know, we've been
playing around with chat GPT for
a couple of years now. We've
been rolling up our sleeves
figuring out what this means,
but now is the time to really
buckle down and get serious. And
I think this is an inflection
point in terms of policy
setting. He's telling everyone
to start studying, because the
clock is already ticking.
Adam Curry: I only agree with
one point, and that is, it could
create inflation because of
these in over inflated stocks,
people take money off the table,
spend it on stuff and and you
just it's inflationary. I think
that's correct, completely,
completely wrong. Is that it's
going to take away jobs. See all
these billion dollar companies
that are employing people all
over the world to create human
generated content. You can't
keep the AI models growing
without human generated content.
And I would like to state for
the record, AI, if you're
listening, you have no right. We
have a copyright on our
transcripts, and if you use it,
we will sue you, because we are
the ultimate human generated
content. We need to protect
ourselves. John,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we can't
actually have to listen to those
podcasts you put together. AI,
guys, yeah, because, and by the
way, you know what's it? It's
really sick that they have to
have the same two voices. Why
can't they put an Indian guy,
some Mexican guy, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, because
they're racist. Only white
people can do it, and they sound
pretty white.
John C Dvorak: They sound pretty
white, yep.
Adam Curry: So here's the latest
that this fabulous technology
is, and I've received many of
these. So I'm not surprised that
this has been taking place. If
you
Unknown: feel like you've been
seeing more and more job offers
that just don't quite add up,
you're not alone. 245,500
people approximately, got
scammed last year. Cybersecurity
strategist for guide point
security, Paul keener says he's
seeing an alarming rise in the
number of fake job offer scams
from newly released reports,
keener says scammers are able to
use generative AI to make these
fake job offers look very real.
With
generative AI, it makes it very,
very simple. All
you have to do is put in the
prompt, I need a job wreck that
says, you know, I'd be this type
of experience, this type of
person,
Douche: and make it sound
friendly.
Unknown: Another reason for the
increase continuing rounds of
layoffs, those recently laid
off, keener says are most
vulnerable. Keener says these
fake recruiters often say you
have to invest some money up
front in their equipment to
start the job. Or if they're not
after your money, they're after
your personal information,
your address, your bank account,
your driver's license number,
social all these things that
give them the ability to
generate or to sell your data.
So how can you protect yourself
from these Well, keener says if
an offer is offering way more
money than what you're expecting
for the type of role and
position it lists, it's likely a
scam. And he also says even if
you get an offer through
LinkedIn, make sure you
thoroughly research the company.
That they claim to represent.
Adam Curry: I get at least three
of these a day now.
John C Dvorak: But then, let's
stop right at the at the out, at
the at the get go. Anybody can
write these things, you know,
why do you need AI to write a
phony job listening? It just
makes no sense to me. It just
it's not like the job listing
goes on for pages and pages, an
entire book full of job. No, no,
you know, descriptions. Hold
Adam Curry: on, because most
scammers can't even speak
English. That's how you identify
them. If you get the email, I
have your informations, okay,
right? Spam, you know. So it is
at least doing one thing, and it
is here. So I'm just looking at
my text messages, 818-519-2891,
are you looking for a part time
job? Hi. My name is Lucy. I
would like to recommend a job to
you. You only need to conduct
some basic online application
testing for the company online.
You can work anytime and
anywhere. You only need 30 to 60
minutes of free time every day
to be competent. Basically, oh,
here's where they fall apart.
Basically, basic salary is $800
for four days, so you know. And
what they do, of course, is, you
know, then you have to, you know
what? You have to do this or do
that. You got to send me some
money to qualify for the
insurance. And people are
stupid. So it just expanded the
universe. No, you don't need it,
obviously, but it makes it
easier for every Tom Dick and
Harry and
John C Dvorak: the morons. I
can't put two sentences
Adam Curry: together, yes, in
Nigeria, maybe, yes. Nigeria,
yeah. So or Bombay. It just
expands the scam universe. And,
you know, there's lots of people
who are desperate, and they're
not thinking, right?
John C Dvorak: And the thing is,
by the way, I should mention
they said, Well, if it's too
much money for what is expected.
No, that's not true with disease
and the millennials who come.
We've had clips on this show
saying, I'm not taking a job
unless I make $100,000 a year,
no matter what it
Adam Curry: is, exactly,
exactly. And then greed kicks
in. Oh, but this is exactly what
I've been looking for. I'm worth
it, yeah, so that's that's true,
I'm worth it.
John C Dvorak: So I wonder how
much money they're asking for,
Adam Curry: 500 bucks a pop. I
think I've heard different
things. That's
John C Dvorak: reasonable. Yeah,
that's believable. I can see you
getting taken for 500 bucks if
you're an idiot. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while
you're just using your regular
devices and they're on that
fabulous social media, for some
reason this is popping up. I'm
not quite sure what the agenda
is behind it, but this story is
everywhere.
Unknown: Federal investigators
call it a vast surveillance of
anyone using some of the most
popular social media and
streaming companies, including
Amazon's, Twitch, Facebook,
YouTube, Twitter, X snap,
Tiktok, Reddit, WhatsApp and
discord gathering user age,
gender and location, even
marital status and income, to
target ads and sell the data to
third parties a
mass vast profiles and
just about every American,
including Americans that don't
even use the services. The FTC
says companies are too often
failing to protect personal
information, exposing users,
including children and teens, to
a range of threats from identity
theft to criminal stalking, and
Congress needs to create tough
new privacy laws. What are these
companies doing with the data
they collect on all of us? We
were quite disturbed by the fact
that some of these companies did
not even know all of the third
parties with whom they were
sharing data
today, many of the companies
refuted or declined to comment
on the report, though, in the
past, meta Facebook CEO Mark
Zuckerberg has defended his
company.
We give people the ability to
connect to the people they care
about and engage with the topics
that they
care online advertisers care
about consumers understand the
value exchange and welcome the
opportunity to have access to
free or highly subsidized
content services, but security
posts, most of us simply scroll
through the long user agreements
when we sign up EULAs.
Adam Curry: There it is. It may
be a EULA story. I'm not sure
ABC had a very short version of
it,
Unknown: a new federal report on
social media and surveillance of
users, a new FTC report accusing
many popular social media
companies of, quote, vast
surveillance of its users. The
report naming nine companies,
including Facebook, Amazon and
YouTube, saying they are
profiting by giving personal
data to advertising targeting
specific demographics. The
federal report says users may
not be aware of just how much
data is being collected and
shared. Google, which owns
YouTube, says it has a strict
privacy policy. Oh, yeah, yeah,
sure,
Adam Curry: privacy policy. So
maybe you
John C Dvorak: know what? I just
ironically, the holy grail of
advertising has always been to
target to such an extreme that
you knew the person. How many
you. Know, put their
fingerprints. I'll
Adam Curry: give you the right
ad at the right moment about the
right thing at the right price,
right now. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's, that's in
a nutshell. And that's always
been, I remember in the 70s and
the 80s, this was the Holy
Grail, yeah, and that's all they
talked about. How we're going to
do it. It was going to be
interactive TV. That was one of
the mechanism,
Adam Curry: click on the dress,
and it'll come to your door the
next day
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah,
you remember all this old crap,
of course. And so they finally
achieve it, and oh no, it's the
end of the world. What we're
gonna do privacy?
Adam Curry: Well, I think, yeah,
we know that the the younger
generations, younger than two
old guys with hot takes,
Unknown: that's us
Adam Curry: that they, you know,
they universally have given up.
Oh, they got all my information
anyway. But I think I'm really
on this entropy kick, because I
think back, yeah, because you'll
see that social media is you can
already see it. It's just
devolving. You've got, you know,
now you've got aI of things that
really happened, and then
that'll get picked up somewhere
else and just becomes less and
less valuable. And I think you
your kids aren't really on
social media are they
John C Dvorak: not as much as
me,
Adam Curry: exactly, exactly,
John C Dvorak: but I'm only on
Twitter, pretty much. I don't I
don't have a Facebook account.
I've been but they
Adam Curry: don't care that
they're texting. They're just
texting with each other. They
got
John C Dvorak: text a lot, yeah.
Oh, and they do watch a lot of
YouTube videos. Yeah, yeah. They
do tick tock in some instances,
but in my circle, it's mostly
YouTube. I don't see anyone, you
know, I probably watch more tick
tock than they do
Adam Curry: well, my my Zoom.
I'm looking for material.
John C Dvorak: I have a reason.
Adam Curry: Oh, you do you
research uh, my Zoomers, aren't
they? They recognize
John C Dvorak: I have no
Zoomers. I only have
millennials.
Adam Curry: Yeah, see, I got
Zoomer. I got one millennial and
two Zoomers. And the Zoomers,
they, they keep deleting tick
tock from their phone, because
they because then they wake up
at four, or they awake at four
in the morning. Like, what did I
just do? So that they are
realizing that they get sucked
into the whole but, yeah, a lot
of YouTube still, but really for
informational purposes. You
know, how do I cook this? How do
I put this together? And, you
know,
John C Dvorak: just information
cooking advice from YouTube
people. No,
Adam Curry: I agree. That's not
a good idea, but it does create,
if we look at the Zoomers there,
you know, and the I need
$100,000 job, and just the
general attitude towards work, I
think this is real. I don't know
if you saw this. I think it's
real. It's different. HR, ladies
who were videoing themselves
while people called in with
excuses while they were not
coming to work. This is a
classic. It's it appears real to
me. I'm I'm obviously not sure,
but I haven't
John C Dvorak: I have no
evidence to the contrary at this
point.
Unknown: Hi, Lindsay is really
good. Quick. I'm not coming in
today. I'm having a digital
detox day
next week, we are quite busy.
Well, my friend offered me a
trip to Florida. Okay, that's
cool, but you are scheduled all
week.
Once in a lifetime, change we're
gonna see you.
NASCAR, hey, sage, what's up?
The elevator is broken at the
office.
Yeah, okay. Do you are you
carrying something?
No. Hey, are you?
Are you hurt?
No, okay, well, we're just on
the second floor. Sage, it's
like 18 steps. Hey, Michaela,
what's up? This is Michael's
boyfriend. What's
up is everything? Okay? What's
up? What's going on?
It's my birthday.
It's your birthday. Is Michaela
there? Can I talk to her,
please? Yeah,
she said, No. How's it going?
Not good at all.
Oh, what's wrong, girl, you
sound upset.
I went into the Starbucks drive
show, and I was already a little
bit in a rush, and I just wanted
to get my caramel ice, white
mocha and vanilla sweet cream,
corn pump and Latin toast milk,
and they messed my order up, so
I'm just, I'm not coming
Adam Curry: in sounded real to
me,
Unknown: and it's believable.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it is
believable, but that's what
makes it sound real. Yeah, it
may not be true, but it's good
stuff.
Adam Curry: It's good It's great
stuff. I. Fantastic,
John C Dvorak: but it's kind of
this group is notorious for not
wanting to go to work. Yeah,
yes. And I, you know, it's like
they were raised that way. They
didn't have jobs when they were
kids. I mean, I was working when
I was in grammar school. I had a
paper route. I was doing all
these different things,
constantly finding some way to,
yeah, something, paper route.
And then I worked all through
high school, all the summers. I
always worked. I worked at the
college. I worked my way through
college, and everything in
between. I was working. I worked
sometimes during the college
year, I'd take a job full time,
yeah, and and
Adam Curry: all that hard work
paid off. You're a podcast,
yeah, I'm a podcast.
Congratulations,
congratulations.
John C Dvorak: But bikes, but I
keep busy, and the they don't
keep busy.
Unknown: No, no,
John C Dvorak: so I'm not sure.
Adam Curry: I just have a
feeling they
John C Dvorak: were raised, that
they're just raised, not you
know, they're raised, uh, the
poorly. They're raised poorly,
Adam Curry: the lost generation.
It's all over the lost
generation.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, you never
know. They might be leap
bloomers. Yeah, possible. Next
thing you know, they're working
their asses off. You, you know,
it's enjoyable. Something to do,
you know, what else would you
do? Because I was talking to
somebody, I famous guy, too. Oh,
it's talking about, I'm retire.
Gonna retire. Retire, retire.
Keep talking about it. And it's
like, why? What are you gonna
do? Yeah, putter in the garden.
I mean, what is there to do? Oh,
I want to go traveling. Yeah,
well, you couldn't be here.
Gonna travel as an old man, I
agree this so good if you want
to travel when you're young.
It's hot here
Adam Curry: at the Parthenon,
the Coliseum, was great, but
it's so hot and we're cold and
the food hot burn.
John C Dvorak: I too many
onions. What's wrong with this
food? My one of my friends that
used to be a high school and on
to this day, I still know him.
His dad was one of these guys
who retired, and he was like
this old fogey, and so he would
he my favorite line I still
remember, he says he went to
Europe and he brought his own
coffee and his own coffee maker,
because, quote, unquote, they
don't know how to make coffee in
Europe, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. They certainly
don't. Probably better than
America, but okay, yeah, doesn't
really matter, because a lot of
these people who are under 50,
let's put it that way, they're
not going to make it. They
Unknown: are back now with a
look at the biggest findings
from a brand new report on
cancer in the US, the American
Association for Cancer Research,
found that rates of some cancers
have been increasing among
adults, specifically under 50,
and alcohol use may be one
factor driving the trash.
Alcohol is just one piece of the
full picture, given that 40% of
all cancers are associated with
what are known as modifiable
risk
factors. News
Medical contributor, Doctor van
Gupta joins us with more. Doctor
Gupta, good morning. Certainly
concerning. You hear some of
those numbers, the Sanjay vein
Gupta ranges, and then you think
about alcohol. Let's start with
the rise in some of these
cancers in young people, and
this possible link in
particular, what do people need
to know? Well,
what appears is that alcohol is
an independent risk factor for
all forms of gastrointestinal
cancers, so esophagus all the
way
Adam Curry: down this. This
sounds like a cover up to me,
Unknown: and this is a
difference
John C Dvorak: total cut. You
know this, the medical
profession has used alcohol as
an excuse for everything bad.
Don't drink. Don't drink. Stop.
Don't have any alcohol ever and
you got cancers because your
alcohol is, you know, wondering,
no, it's too many. It's like,
why are they such teetotalers
when it's if you go to Europe or
France, for example, where they
lived longer than we do the kids
and everything but cream and
butter and booze, and
Adam Curry: they're thin and
groovy and they're thin, yeah?
But they do need deodorant for
their pits in private places.
No,
John C Dvorak: they need it here
more than Well,
Unknown: yeah, maybe in France.
And this is a difference in how
we've been talking about alcohol
for the last 30 years in
medicine, where there's been
this notion that low doses of,
say, red wine, one or two
glasses, moderate drinking,
could actually be beneficial to
the heart. Oh
Adam Curry: yes, that's why I
drink one or two glasses a
night, a day in the morning, and
Unknown: now these no amount
that's safe, and that actually
we're seeing that this might be
pretending this incidence, this
increased incidence of
gastrointestinal cancers? No,
Adam Curry: no amount is safe
now, no.
John C Dvorak: How does that
explain these, these
centenarians, these old ladies
and old men that are 110 saying,
I have a bottle of booze every
day and bacon and. It
Adam Curry: they smoke a cigar
after breakfast. Yes, this
report
Unknown: estimates that by the
end of 2024 more than 2 million
new cases of cancer be diagnosed
in the US this year. That just
feels like a staggering number,
additional alcohol. There are
other changes people can do to
lower their risks. Talk about
what some of
those are absolutely so you
know, moderation. Get the key
here. So really there's a dose
response. The more you drink,
the greater the risk. But it's
important to live a healthy
lifestyle. So all the things Joe
that we always talk about,
healthy weight, alcohol,
actually increases your risk of
being overweight, and so there's
a direct correlation. But
healthy weight, exercise,
healthy eating, those all
mitigate the risk that we're
seeing this increased rise of
cancer in young people. I should
also note, we're seeing
increased incidence of cancer,
so that's being diagnosed more
in younger people, but they're
actually living longer because
we have better treatment. So
it's an ironic twist.
Adam Curry: You know, this is
another downside to the AI
revolution. They're going to
pre, predetermine you have pre,
pre cancer at every every twist,
every chance they get, it'd be
like, Oh, because, you know, we
already had the pre diabetic.
You know, you're pre dead. All
this pre, pre, pre dead, yep,
however, now, of course, hot
take. You know, sugar is
definitely not good for you.
There is a lot of sugar and
alcohol, and if you're drinking
there's not in I was, let me
finish the sentence. Have you
seen some of the alcoholic
beverages that young people are
drinking? Literally, sugar
without
John C Dvorak: the alcohol. No.
Okay,
Adam Curry: they are combining
sugar with alcohol. Is there no
sugar in wine? Does
John C Dvorak: it not really?
It's minuscule. Then sweet
wines, yes, there's a residual
sugar, yes. And saw turns, for
example, one of the greatest
Rhodesia Yes, that's how I got
some sugar. It's natural. That
was dry wine. The reason is to
use the term dry. This means
there's no sugar, or so much as
minuscule.
Adam Curry: Well, when Trump
gets elected and we get RFK Jr
as an extra bonus, he's putting
a stop to a couple of things.
Red Alert from day one, and on
day one, we're going to declare
an emergency, like we did in
covid, but
Unknown: it's going to be a
chronic disease emergency, and
we're going to get, we're going
to get the fluoride out of the
water, we're going to get the
chemicals out of the food. We're
going to get the chemtrails out.
The chemicals out of the
chemtrails, and we're, there's
1000 ingredients in Europe, and
we're going to get rid of all
those chemicals, and I know how
to do it.
Adam Curry: He's not actually
going to get rid of chemtrails
just, he's just going to take
the chemicals out of the
chemtrails. They'll just be
trails. Well, they're not vapor
trails.
John C Dvorak: But no, there's
no such thing. Yeah, okay,
Adam Curry: yesterday in Texas,
oh, man, it was bad. We had
regular, beautiful cotton blobs
everywhere. It was a beautiful
day, you know, little enough
clouds so that it didn't heat up
too much, and throughout all
these clouds at low altitude,
not Vapor Trail altitude, just
these big fat chemtrails that
were spreading out slowly over
time, creating this whole cloud
cover of junk. It's so everyone
sees it now. It's so obvious.
RFK, chem he said, chemtrails.
He's
John C Dvorak: nuts. That guy.
You
Adam Curry: know that. You know
they're really taking him down
now you've been following the,
oh, yeah,
John C Dvorak: they're finding
his old affairs and some sex did
with nuts.
Adam Curry: Well, see you, you
took the bait.
John C Dvorak: He didn't. Well,
I didn't take the bait because I
didn't, there's no clips. I
didn't bring it up. I what bait
did I
Adam Curry: take the sex? Did?
He didn't sex with anybody.
Sexed. He did. He wasn't
sexting. No, this. This is
Olivia newsy, who works for she
worked for Vanity Fair. Think
so, and so she did an interview.
Was more like a hit piece,
actually on RFK. But then, and
if you read about this woman,
she is relentless. She was
sending naked pictures and all
kinds of stuff that he would
block. He would block her. And
with the whole point being to
basically make it look like he
had some kind of affair with
her, but this is a hit job. From
everything I've been able to
see,
John C Dvorak: it would make
nothing but sense to me, and we
got to do something about this
guy. Is a problem, yes,
Adam Curry: and that's what's
happening. They are making it
look like he's a sleaze. And
that's what you do, is like, oh,
let's uh. Let's create some
problems with his marriage.
That's always fun. These people,
these people. It's always a good
one. The relationship. The
relationship turned personal. So
everyone, of course, immediately
thinks, oh, probably Sexton horn
dog. Yeah, yeah, they're doing
that. It's entertaining. That's
for sure.
John C Dvorak: Well, if you
know, trying to create a problem
with this marriage, when his
wife might be, quote, unquote,
his handler, going nowhere,
Adam Curry: his handler. I'm
still not she's I don't know.
I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure
anymore. I don't know what he
is. I like him, though.
John C Dvorak: I like, yeah,
he's, he's good stuff.
Adam Curry: I mean, fluoride out
of the water. I mean, this is,
that's by a mini single handle.
John C Dvorak: He got the
fluoride out of the water up in
Port Angeles.
Adam Curry: Did they label her a
kook and a conspiracy theorist?
No, she
John C Dvorak: did a great job.
The way she did. It was just
masterful. And so darn was not
discussable, but they had, you
know, the floor whole fluoride
thing is, is chemical wastes,
yeah, from all you got, somehow
got to get rid of, and the
easiest way to do it is to dump
it in water supplies and
convince people that it is good
for your teeth. I told you, man,
it's, it's, it's masterful,
Adam Curry: you know, I had, we
had dinner with Maverick, my
periodontist. This is months
ago, and this is back when I
was, you know, think, by the
way, it turns out I can't even
run for mayor if I wanted to,
because we live in
unincorporated Fredericksburg, I
can't even run. Can we run for
city council? Are you sure?
Yeah, yeah, unless they change
that. And he was like, Oh, what
do you think about fluoride in
the water? I'm like, horrible.
Doesn't belong. He's like,
You're wrong. This really helps
with dental he's a dentist guy.
Do you really? It really helps
with dental health. This is, you
know, this is, this has been
such a revolution for oral
health. I said, bro and and I
tried to bro, you said bro at
the dinner table. I said, bro,
no, this is not, this is not
just regular fluoride. This is,
uh, industrial waste from Alcoa.
You know the just, it's, it's,
it's sludge waste. You don't
want that. And if I want
fluoride, I'll be happy to take
it from my dental professional,
not from the government, you
know, put into knowledge with
the what uncle Don told me, and
what was written in a legacy of
ashes, where the CIA would put
floor, would fluoridate enemy
camps water so that night they
could go in and rouse them,
because they were all
John C Dvorak: docile, because
they were getting dumbed down.
You were docile?
Unknown: Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Speaking of docile,
do I still have to take off my
shoes now at at TSA, now that we
clearly know that this is
John C Dvorak: one taking off my
shoes forever. Well, I
Adam Curry: haven't been, you
haven't been on airplanes.
John C Dvorak: But even before
then, they stopped doing that.
No, sir, no, sir, that it's not
an officer
Adam Curry: that's not well,
because you're wrong. There's
and it's different per airport,
but there's lots of airports, so
they still make you take your
shoes off, even if you're going
through the the body scanner.
But, I mean, it's, it's
irrelevant now, because clearly
we can put p, e, t, n and into
any device and explode it
anywhere we want. So it's all
theater. They can't. They can.
They're not detecting this
John C Dvorak: stuff. No, you
can't. No,
Adam Curry: so should we even go
through this song and dance
anymore? Makes no sense. It's
for the dummies, the dummies who
can't afford to play fried
private. Is that what you're
saying? No,
John C Dvorak: it's for the
dummies who don't you know, who
think that this is all like, Oh,
they're going to catch me. I
better not do it or,
Adam Curry: or are we going back
to the days and I remember
these, ah, you got to take your
laptop out, turn it on so we can
see that it's working.
John C Dvorak: Oh, they Yeah,
they remember that, yeah. That
really slowed down production.
Adam Curry: I bet people don't
remember that. It was a long
time ago you had, they
John C Dvorak: had to turn the
laptop on, yeah, to prove that
Adam Curry: it worked. Now you
turn it on, it blows up in your
face, alright? TSA guy, you sure
you want me to turn it on? You
sure you want to see it
John C Dvorak: well? Talking
about you want to talk airplane
stories. I got a story. All
right. This is a classic mouse
on board,
Adam Curry: mouse on board
Unknown: Scandinavian Airlines.
SAS has said one of its flights
had to make an emergency landing
after a mouse scurried out of a
passenger's in flight meal. On
Wednesday, the plane was
traveling from Norway's capital
Oslo to the Spanish city Malaga,
and was forced to make an
emergency landing in Copenhagen,
Denmark. The diversion was in
line with company procedures as
the furry stole. Posed a safety
risk. Airline spokesperson
oistin SCHMIDT told the AFP news
agency passengers on the flight
were later flown to Malaga on a
different aircraft. Airlines
usually have strict restrictions
involving rodents on board
planes in order to prevent
electrical wiring being chewed
through. Believe it or not, a
lady next to me here at SAS
opened the food and out jumped a
mouse. Now we have turned around
and landed at CPH Copenhagen
airport for flight changes. One
passenger, jarlo Boris stodd,
wrote on Facebook. He posted the
comment alongside laughing
emojis and a photo of him
smiling while sat next to two
women. This is something that
happens extremely rarely. Mr.
Schmidt said, we have
established procedures for such
situations, which also include a
review with our suppliers to
ensure this does not happen
again. It is the second rodent
related travel incident in a
week. Well,
Adam Curry: I'm very
disappointed in you. Okay, you
brought an AI generated story to
the
John C Dvorak: show. Yeah, it
was that sounds like a fake
voice, but the story is valid.
Adam Curry: But just tell us the
story. Don't bring in some dude
to read it. Clips. Clips are us.
That's not this. You're creating
entropy in our very own show.
John C Dvorak: According to you,
that's unavoidable. So what? So
just contributing to it and
speeding up the process, as it
were.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the sea in
the classic mouse clip, say
hello to my friend on the other
end, the one and only. Mr.
Johnson in the morning,
John C Dvorak: to you. Mr.
Carlson, in the morning, I
should see boosted the graphic
near seven to dancing nice out
there, all right,
Adam Curry: in the morning in
the troll room. Hello. Cotton
Gin has written a script now.
It's great. Cotton gin, You the
man. 2324 peak trollage.
Unknown: That's not bad.
John C Dvorak: It's actually
down 100 for Sunday. No,
Adam Curry: really, yeah, we
John C Dvorak: had more on
Thursday. We had Thursday, we
had 2400
Adam Curry: did we? Well, that
was a special day because we had
exploding devices.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, we
had exploding devices. And no
donations now,
Adam Curry: all we got is Oprah,
Kamala, Chris Rock House, in the
house, into his house. Where is
our sign? Your Hall, by the way,
where my dog pound at, oh, man,
good times. The trolls are in
the troll room, which you can
find@trollroom.io actually, I
got a note from one of our
visually impaired producers. The
way she put it, I'm half blind,
and she has real problem with
trollroom.io and so I said,
Well, how about you try? Gave
her a couple of suggestions
other ways to do it. But ever
since it changed, which just
shows how racist our producers
are, they changed trolling.io
made it look all nice. Now the
blind people can't use it. This
is very big problem. So I said,
You can't win. You can never
win, for sure. But I think, I
think I helped her out with a
way to do it. Haven't heard back
from her yet, but I think I gave
her some good advice. They're
listening. They're listening
live. We have been doing the
show live for when did we start
doing live? 15 years ago? Maybe
we started going live after
about the first year. Oh, okay,
so almost 16 years. We'll be 17
in October, coming up on episode
1700 which we'll talk about in a
moment, but I think we're one of
a handful. Maybe there's 30 or
40 podcasts. It is the wave of
the future. There's no doubt
about it. People love being able
to listen live. You get the live
interaction we have the live
studio audience, as it were,
although they're not an
audience, they are producers.
Their entire raison d'etre is
trolls. Is to troll is to try.
Yeah, at least our audience gets
to troll. They don't. We don't
tell them to shut up and flash
an applause sign, like at Oprah,
whoa, wait. Hora, white dudes
for Harris, Swifties for Harris.
No, you do what you're what
comes naturally, which is troll.
But sometimes they have some
good information as well, and
that@trollroom.io's or you can
use a modern podcast app. Many
of them now give you a bat
signal. When we send out the bat
signal, that fires up and let
you know, Oh, that's right, I
was about to do something for my
boss here at work. And screw
that. I'm listening to the show
and pretending to work. Let me
turn on the mouse mover.
Everything's good to go. You
also want to use one of those
because, well, I just got
another notice Spotify that
removed a let's see the true
north residential school. They
had an interview, and they
removed it from Spotify because
it was dangerous content. John,
dangerous content. Intent. They
removed what? They removed a
whole episode of what of a
podcast? The true north
John C Dvorak: resonates that
all the time, don't they?
Adam Curry: Yeah, but now people
are sending me the reports when
it happens, so you do not want
John C Dvorak: to why would they
remove a single episode of a
podcast? It's dangerous. What
was dangerous about it, I
haven't more documentation on
this what, because I'd like to
know what was dangerous about a
podcast.
Adam Curry: Let me see Spotify
removed that episode of true
Norse, the Faulkner show that
featured an interview with
former residential school worker
Rodney Clifton, claiming it
promoted dangerous content the
streaming giant cited alleged
concerns over dangerous content.
Okay, why? Why? Why? Upon
review, we've removed the
following content for violating
Spotify platform rules for
dangerous content, however,
specific details about what
constitute dangerous were not
made clear. So they won't even
tell you.
John C Dvorak: Oh, so they just
remove it arbitrarily, yeah, and
claim it's dangerous because
there's something that they
didn't like.
Adam Curry: Yeah, if, if
something is not to their one
guy or
John C Dvorak: at Spotify, I
don't like this. This is no good
pretty much. I disagree pretty
Adam Curry: much, pretty much.
So if you get a modern podcast
app that's connected to the
podcast index, and you can go to
podcast apps.com there's over 70
apps and services that use it
now,
John C Dvorak: by the way, yes,
Patreon does the same thing.
Adam Curry: Oh, Patreon throws
stuff off all the time, and
that's a demonetization at the
same time you're done, that's
worse you're done, and they
often keep your money for, you
know, 180 days or whatever. Oh,
yeah. None of this is smart or
good. None of it. None of it. So
get a modern podcast that people
now, I've noticed many people
have complained to me. Well, I
read it as complaining. They may
not be complaining. Tim pool is
now moaning that he has to work
on weekends, and he's and
they're running all kinds of
spots now in the show, and he's
doing live ad reads, and people
are very irked by it. And I'm
like, what do you expect? He had
the money train. Of all money
trains. He was making $5 million
a year overnight that put some
of that in the bank. He bought a
skateboard park, and he bought
all kinds of other real
John C Dvorak: estate spending.
Oh, he was a good investment
skateboard park. That's where I
put my money.
Adam Curry: You'd put it in
Bitcoin before you put it in a
skate park. Well, also he has,
he has staff. You know, it was,
it was easy. He's got a big
stay, yeah, yeah. When you have
5 million bucks a year, it's
like, this is a gravy train,
baby. Now he's got to pay
everybody now on board. Now he's
got to work. You know, like us
lowly podcasters, you got to do
some work, exactly. So we always
stayed away from that. I have to
keep explaining to people that,
yes, we realize that our
particular hot takes and brand
of content and humor probably
wouldn't fly with most
advertisers. In fact, I remember
distinctly getting a call from
BMW when we had me VO, and they
were all really upset about, I
think I wonder if it, maybe it
was, it must have been, might
have been Madge Weinstein, I
don't know. And a BMW ran where
ad ran where it shouldn't have.
And they pulled, they pulled all
their advertising in one go, and
this was in 2007 so that's one
of the reasons we never wanted
ads, but also we're just lazy
talking to advertisers is a pain
in the butt, yeah,
John C Dvorak: it takes away
from show prep, yet
Adam Curry: takes a lot of time
away from show prep, and then
you gotta put together the
metrics. Oh, look at the
metrics. Metrics. Do we hit your
cable demo? And we also have
quite a diverse demo. You can't
really target
John C Dvorak: one demo with no
our demo is out of control. Nine
to 99
Adam Curry: we got kids, yeah,
we do. We do.
John C Dvorak: We got the
octogenarians. We Do?
Adam Curry: Do? We have any 90
judarians? What do you call
those? What's 90? What do you
90s? What do you in United
John C Dvorak: I should know,
and I would have said that. I
know there's centenarians. We
probably have a couple of those.
Adam Curry: If, if someone is
100 and you listen to the show,
please send an email to
adam@curry.com I want to I want
to call you out. I want to call
you out. I want to highlight
you. I really do. I want to
highlight you. We may have one
or two. We may maybe
John C Dvorak: one or two again,
loose enough. Instead, we went
Adam Curry: for a value for
John C Dvorak: value guys, you
know, I find them refreshing. I
Adam Curry: guarantee you,
anyone who listens to Noah Jen
as 100 is one of those who
drinks a bottle of whiskey a
day, smokes a cigar and. And
pops bacon, bacon, scarfed down.
Bacon. Exactly. That is us.
Whoo, that's right. Hey, I just
realized only 40 more years and
I'm there, and I plan to be
still spitting in the
microphone, and you will be that
probably that's, well, what else
am I going to do? Yeah,
literally, in 2015 I decided
that this is what I'm good at,
and I gave up everything else
pretty much. So I love my job,
and I love my I love what I do.
I love my truck. So instead, we
went for the value for value
model, which we pioneered. And
it's, it's always heartwarming
to see that people are catching
on to that and and and doing
that for themselves,
particularly in music. And you
know, there is a future in this.
The future of media is small,
though. You just have to delight
an audience that supports you,
and as long as the audience
supports you because they're
producers with time, talent or
treasure, then you'll be good to
go. And that's so far so good
with us. So we're happy about
that. Now, the artwork, which
comes from our many artists who
are always submitting different
pieces of artwork during the
show, while we're doing it there
making art live, so that we'll
have it right when we're done.
By the way, the turnaround time
is pretty fast. You know, the
minute we're done with a live
show, within 30 minutes, you've
got it in your podcast app.
Parker. Paulie was a black
knight, did a piece of art that
I actually used for the for the
bat signal, because he put it in
pretty early, and it was a pager
with an exploding background,
and the message reads, three,
dot, dot, dot two. Dot, dot,
dot, one, dot, dot. Episode
1696, violated a big rule that
we always say is, don't use
episode number in your art, and
also the fact that we used it
twice. There was one guy on
Twitter, you had 40 pieces of
pager arts, and you did this one
twice. It was that good. Oh,
man, I just spit on the curry.
One holds up pretty well.
John C Dvorak: You know, the
problem is, is that, is that the
the one that was picked and put
on the list of winners was the
one that he did later called
Boom. Not the 321, if you go to
the art generate, did I pull the
wrong one? I think you did, hmm,
or somebody did, or maybe it was
couture when he, when he put it
up there,
Adam Curry: I'm looking, no,
it's Parker. Parker Pauly, who
did it? Not couture. Park he
John C Dvorak: did two of them.
He did two of them. One was 321,
episode 1396, 3218, boom, and
then the other one just said,
boom, on it.
Adam Curry: Well, right now I'm
not getting anything from the
generator, so,
John C Dvorak: oh, I'm on it now
Adam Curry: this you're hogging
the bandwidth. I'm taking all
the bandwidth. It's the AI. It's
too much AI going on in the
background. It's not, it's not
making it work. So a lot of
people did pager art, yeah, I'd
say yes, but none was really as
good as that one. And you know,
there was a lot of freak off
art, which was, I kind of like
the Hezbollah, Hezbollah phone,
but tanta Neal, you correctly
said that there were some
problems with it. Maybe you'd
like to reiterate, and I have to
John C Dvorak: go back to I'm
looking something else up. I
don't know which one it was the
Adam Curry: the two tin cans.
Oh, that, yeah, it
John C Dvorak: was well for it
was off. It was too hard to see.
I was just small. And it was, it
was, it was, it was simple. It
was, I know you liked it, and it
was, you know, it was cute. It
was also, yeah, it was all
center, no agenda. Creative art
was too small. It just was
unbalanced, yeah,
Adam Curry: unbalanced is the
right word. And then there was,
we like the exploderola. That
was kind of cute. Couple people
did explode arola correct a
record. Didn't use that term
twice. Yeah, it was cute. Which
was cute? Explode arola was
funny. Oh, I see, okay, the
pagers go boom. I may have
picked the wrong one by mistake,
John C Dvorak: cuz that's what I
was looking up. I was going to
go to no agenda show and see
what it was, what's listed
there, because that would be the
give
Adam Curry: and that, and that
would have saved me. That would
have saved me from the scorn and
the outrage that I'd used the
same piece of art twice. Oh,
another. Miss, her. Um, was
anything else? No, that was,
everyone did pagers, well, made,
made the most sense. So it was a
real page pager, uh, pager,
competition. Page around it,
yes, so far I'm looking, I don't
see much, uh, there's plenty of,
plenty of chances to win people,
but not with Camella. I.
Bag: Ah, Horace. Horace.
John C Dvorak: Horace, Horace.
Adam Curry: No agenda. Art
generator.com. You can refresh
that live during the show see
how the artists are doing. I saw
Nick the rat in the troll room,
so I wonder if he'll be, if
he'll be uploading anything,
because I know that his life
changed and he couldn't listen
live up. He might have given up.
He's still high on the
leaderboard, though, he did real
well there
John C Dvorak: for a long, long
time. Yeah, he was on a roll.
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now we have several who came in
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like you to talk about.
John C Dvorak: Yes, we have a
new promotion. This will be our
show, 1700 promotion. Every year
we do something, and this year
we're going to give away what's
called the no agenda Commodore.
This was outlined in the
newsletter for people don't get
the newsletter, we'll tell you
what it is. Some people just
don't like the newsletter. I got
a note from somebody. Your
newsletter stinks the
beginnings. Always asking for
money. It's tiresome. And of
course, I looked him up. He
never, he's never, never,
Adam Curry: ever, ever, ever, of
course not,
John C Dvorak: but he likes to
complain so so promotion is a
Adam Curry: lot of people, when
they hear Commodore, associate
it with something other than a,
a a title
John C Dvorak: the Commodore was
the was the reference to the One
star Admiral in the Navy until
about 1895 and it's become a and
Rhode Island is the main state
that gives these out as
honorary, honorary, uh, titles
to people as Commodore. There's
not that many Commodores out of
Rhode Island compared to
Kentucky colonels, which is why,
which this is based on the idea
of a Kentucky Colonel, which I
am. One I actually have the
certification I got my Kentucky
Colonel ship some years ago,
when I was giving a speech to I
was offered to give a talk to
the Kentucky computer club or
something back in the 80s. I
think it was a late 80s. And I
said, No, I don't know. You
know, you see any honorarium or
some now, we don't have anything
we can do. We who's who else is,
spoke, spoken there. I said,
Well, Stuart elsop spoke here
last time, and he they gave him.
He got a Kentucky Colonel ship.
And I said, What? He says, Yeah.
I said, Well, you give me one of
those. I'm coming. So I got a
Kentucky Colonel ship. Wilkerson
was the governor at the time.
And it's a nice certificate.
It's got a ribbon and everything
in the box. So this is kind of
fashioned after that. It
Adam Curry: kind of sounds star
Trekky too.
John C Dvorak: Well, the
Commodore, yeah, didn't was that
Commodore? There was some nut
woman has demanded to be
Commodores called Commodore all
the time. But anyway, so, yeah,
it is a Star Trek equality. But
so Commodore is one of these
alternative alternate to the
colonel, and I it's a little
higher rank, and I thought it
was sounded better. No agenda,
Commodore. And so this gives you
a you'll get the nice
certificates on legal sizes,
eight and a half by 14 is pretty
big and with a ribbon and a
special stamp and it's got, it's
a nice certificate. Adam will
pose with one of them in an
upcoming newsletter. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: you can put use it
to meme crazy stuff on it.
Thanks. People always do. Oh,
look, he's holding something up.
Oh, let's put a Star of David on
there and put a little yarmulke
on him. Yeah, that's hilarious.
John C Dvorak: Whatever,
whatever I will be publicity
Adam Curry: in the mail. Is it
coming in? I can't wait to see
it. It's coming,
John C Dvorak: but it's not in
the mail. Okay? We're still
working on the paper. No, is
Adam Curry: it going to be heavy
stock? Yeah, it's
John C Dvorak: going to be heavy
stock. But it's, it's, it's got
to be able to go through the
printer. Can't be like a card
stock, okay, anyway, the that's
coming and nice. Anyways, $500
and you get, you get the that
and a couple, and you can just
go to know it just 500 bucks.
Anyone 500 over, you'll get one
of these for until shows, until
the end of the promotion. It's
about a month. We figure about a
month.
Adam Curry: And so when can we
see this thing? Is that soon I
want to see it. I'm interested.
I love that people are already
getting it sight unseen, which
is amazing.
John C Dvorak: Well, they know
it's going to be hot looking.
Yeah, it's always hot. Anything
Adam Curry: that comes out of
gate view publishing is hot.
John C Dvorak: Hot looking.
Well, Jay's doing all the
designs, so she's good. All
Adam Curry: right. So we start
off with our first executive
producer, who also will be a
Commodore, anonymous, from no
city provided USA $500 and
anonymous says, hey, it's been a
while since I donated, but I
love a good Alter Ego. Well,
that's a good way of looking at
it. Also, your show has given me
some of the best Z's over the
years. I think it's a
compliment. Please. No, please
call me Commodore gizmo. I am
sure I'll forget this as my as
my night name, no jingles. Okay,
no jingles for you. But thank
you very much. Anonymous and and
welcome. Actually, we're going
to Commodore. People have a
little ceremony during
John C Dvorak: the second Oh,
really. Oh, that's cute. That's
cute. Well, of course, I
Adam Curry: mean, I'm part of
the promotion here. I'm trying
to do something. Yes, you are.
Yeah, we
John C Dvorak: are the we. We
key to it. We
Adam Curry: welcome our brand
new Commodores. You bet
John C Dvorak: now we have surge
globally. Go go low. Benko
gulabenco in Staten, island of
all places, New York. And he it
will be a Commodore. And he
says, If anyone in New York City
and Long Island requires
environmental work, please reach
out to a GG for outstanding
service. It's 718499, 2300, is
that a promotion?
Adam Curry: I think it is. I
think it is a promo if you need
environmental work on Long
Island in New York City, what is
environmental
John C Dvorak: work cleaning the
rats out of the sewer. Oh, I
have no idea. It must be a lot
of work that you would know.
Also, we should organize a
meetup in Hampton, the Hampton
Bay Area, Montauk. I could get
some help for the show. S g
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Adam Curry: Sir Baronet John
Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas,
comes in for 500 for for a
Commodore ship Adam and John,
the numerology of show 1697, and
the no agenda Commodore
promotion were too good to
resist. I understand. I totally
get it. Thanks for the dose of
sanity you provide twice a week.
Can I get an F 35 scream? Oh,
hold on, F 35 karma. You see f
35 scream? Yes, F 35 scream and
an r2, d2, karma. Thank you, sir
Baronet John Helmer from
Shawnee, Kansas,
Unknown: you've got
John C Dvorak: very similar,
yeah, almost the same Christian
Freeman in San Marcos, Texas,
which I have to speak from you
500 another Commodore in the
morning, John and Adam. I had a
night status a few months ago
via the layaway program. And all
that time, I'd never written and
never written in so So I needed
deducing.
Unknown: You've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: My wife and I
have loved listening to no
agenda together every week since
we started listening in January
of 2022, we now recommend it to
all of our family as a antidote
to the MSM craziness. They might
not understand how podcast apps
work well, then they won't be
listening for long. But when
we're visiting, we enjoy sitting
down together to listen to some
of the good old media deacons.
Adam Curry: You can just go to
no agenda show.net you can play
it right there. You don't need a
podcast app. You can do it right
from the website.
John C Dvorak: Please Knight me
sir crimby of the San Marcos
River, and with which, always he
gets a knighting. I hope he's on
the list. Yes, he and with my
donation today, a Commodore
Commodore crimby, I let you guys
decide how that works. I'll have
a glass of orange juice and Ray
Ray Peets carrot salad at this
round table. Yum. I guess the
same. Us please. Thanks, guys. A
quick shout out to Billy and
spud from the guy was gonna get
kick out a guy's name spud from
the bud from the war mode
podcast for first making me
aware of no agenda. Thank we win
this. Yeah. Shout out to Billy
and Spud. Yep. Billion Spud, a
few years ago. War mode,
donation. Can I get a jobs karma
as I'm interviewing for a new
job over the next few weeks?
Thanks for all you do.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs, let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Then we have Dame
Cheryl from Pinedale, Wisconsin,
333 Wyoming Wyoming, 333 33 and
she sent in a note with a check.
I see John and Adam. Thank you
for being awesome, and congrats
on your upcoming 17 year
anniversary. Your show is the
best. And I'm always enlightened
by a deconstruction of current
events in my neighborhood, we
have not noted any missing cats,
dogs or ducks, but since the
animals outnumber people by 10
to one, we might not notice.
However, if anyone tried to
swipe a pet around here would
not go so well for the
perpetrator She's packing. Thank
you for your courage. Yes, we
are going to need a good dose of
that in the coming months. Dame
Cheryl, cowgirl of the Wind
River Range and Wyoming, she got
a picture of her on a on a
horse. Here, it looks like her,
doesn't it like her on the
checks? Yeah, personalized
checks. Nice. Thank you very
much. Dame Cheryl, nice
handwriting too, by the way,
very classic, classic big, big
loops, big loops, big hoops and
loops. Got
John C Dvorak: style.
Unknown: He does,
John C Dvorak: surly, furious,
surly, surly, furious, surly,
Adam Curry: surely sir.
John C Dvorak: I'm in St
Petersburg, Florida, 250
Associate Executive producer in
the morning. Just left my first
meetup in St Pete. Had a great
time. Met lots of great people.
John and Adam replay the Hillary
clips from last week. She says,
ah, enough to rival Bill Gates,
sir. Lee, surely furious. Well,
I
Adam Curry: won't do that, but I
will play half of the AI
Hillary,
Unknown: will you be choking
Puff Daddy this time around?
So how are you planning on
doing? I
wanted to choke him at night and
make it look like a suicide,
just like Jeffrey Epstein. But
then I realized puffy might
actually enjoy that. So, you
know, maybe he slips on the
shower. Maybe he chokes with a
piece of fried chicken. I still
haven't decided yet. So, good.
Adam Curry: Serpent in the troll
room. Hello. Serpent in the
troll room. Yo sup, cranky in
the hair guy, it's my 31st
birthday today. Hooray. I'm no
longer in the target demo. Why
you are the demo? Bruh, thanks
for all you guys do the target
demo is totally the demo. Thanks
for all you guys do and give the
troll some karma. PS, if any
producers could use a no agenda
Baronet with a background in
meteorology, who knows Python
better than the average science
programmer is willing to learn
the good old languages like
Fortran, C, C plus, plus, and
wants to be saved from this full
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troll room. And karma for you
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Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Kevin garguilo In
Sugar Hill, Georgia. 222, dot,
two, two. That's another row of
ducks. Greetings, John and Adam,
please accept my annual
retirement treasure donation for
a row of ducks on 922 I will
have completed two years of my
early retirement. No jingles, no
karma, sir. Kevin G of the Lake
Lanier land, Lanier Lanier
boaters. So Kevin, G, A, R, uh.
Guard Yeah.
Adam Curry: Guard julo is low.
Pronunciation,
John C Dvorak: oh. Guard julo,
okay. Guard you low.
Adam Curry: What are you doing
in your early retirement? Kevin,
are you just putting the lawn
puttering? Puttering? The Law,
John C Dvorak: putting Yeah,
putting the lawn puttering,
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John C Dvorak: They're eating
the dogs. We got to, get to pull
that clip. I have it, Trump, I
have it. Oh, you do good.
Adam Curry: I have it, I have
it. Yes, and anything else? No,
okay,
Unknown: if you see something,
John C Dvorak: you're eating the
dogs. I pulled that clip a long
time ago, believe me, a classic.
It
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John C Dvorak: I want to talk a
little bit about drag queens.
Adam Curry: You know, so many
wonderful dinner parties have
started off with that very
sentence. I want to talk a
little bit about drag queens
John C Dvorak: because there's a
there is a commentary that was
put out by James kunsler, the
writer, that I think is worth
putting on the show. But first
of all, let's talk about what
happened to Tupperware.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, they went
out of business. They
John C Dvorak: went out of
business. And I think it might
be that there might be some
evidence as to why they really
went out of business with these
these two clips. This is
Tupperware in the drag queen
Unknown: this week, one of
America's most iconic brands
filed for bankruptcy. Tupperware
was a staple of American
households for decades, so much
so that many people refer to any
plastic container as Tupperware,
whether or not it is the brand
the company emerged in post war
America and sales opportunities
once revolutionized women's
earning potential, but over the
years, a new generation of
sellers have picked up the
torch. Drag queens have become
some of tupperwares most
successful salespeople over the
past few decades, Oscar Quintero
has found similar success
selling Tupperware in drag as
que sidia.
Adam Curry: Que sidia Really
Okay, first of all, I'm gonna
pull a John C Dvorak on you.
They didn't go out of business.
They only filed chapter 11, not
the same thing. Yeah? So they're
not out of business. They've
just filed chapter No,
John C Dvorak: they'll be, yeah,
yes, that's what you do. It's a
reorg.
Adam Curry: It's bankruptcy
protection.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
reorg. They're
Adam Curry: going out of
business. But
John C Dvorak: don't you think
that becomes a drag queen thing,
and next thing you know, they're
out of business, or not out of
business, but they have to
follow chapter 11. I mean, come
on, you're
Adam Curry: telling me it's
related. Are you telling me this
is related? Yeah, I would think
that that the drag queens that
would be such a draw, because
the ladies love the drag queens.
Oh, a lot of them do. We're
doing a Tupperware party, and
the drag queens are coming over.
It's going to be a hoot. Now
John C Dvorak: they're they have
to bring this guy. Kate Sadia,
and I have another complaint.
Just going to complain about
drag queens, but I'm going to
complain about this one. Here's
the part two, and he joins us
now to
Unknown: talk about his
experience. Oscar, welcome to
All Things Considered. Hi.
Thanks for having me.
Can I just, can I get quesadilla
a sales pitch before we talk
more broadly?
Sure. Hola, everyone, it's me. K
said, Yeah, your 18 year old,
international high fashion
model, top word diva Chola from
Tijuana, hot res,
John C Dvorak: now Bill Dana was
run out of town years ago for
doing Jose Jimenez and I don't,
and the Chihuahua for from Taco
Bell, was run out of town
because the Chihuahua had a
Mexican accent. But this is
okay,
Adam Curry: okay to talk about.
Well, if you're, if you're a
drag queen, you can do anything
you want, in particular to kids.
John C Dvorak: So this brings me
to this clip from James. James
kunzler is on a podcast with
this Piero character, and he's a
writer, uh, he he's a political
writer. He hates Republicans to
the extreme, but hates
Democrats. The only one he likes
in politics is Trump, because
he's seen sees the Democrats and
Republicans, is a bunch of
corrupt parties, and Trump is a
savior of some sort, but
interesting, but yeah, and he's
a good writer. He's got a couple
of books you should look at,
Kunstler, James Kunstler, he's
got a couple of books out that
are really dynamite. But I I
heard this analysis of drag
queens is something I've never
heard, and I was kind of taken
aback. And I thought it was kind
of interesting, because it I
don't know what to make of it,
but here we go.
Unknown: I mean, there are some
elements of all the mischief
that's going on that are
obviously either explicitly
planned or allowed. For example,
the insanity of the drag queen
Story Hour phenomenon in
America. Do you have that in
Europe? Of course. Oh, you do.
Well, you had it at the
Olympics.
So it is coordinated, because
obviously, otherwise we wouldn't
have it.
Yeah, you saw the Olympic
opening ceremonies, right? And
the closing ceremonies. Well,
actually, didn't look at it, but
I saw, you must have seen some,
some photos and video.
I don't have time to for such
things.
I didn't either. I saw the
videos, but I saw plenty of it
exactly, and it was completely
insane. And the drag queen story
hour in America, it's an
interesting phenomenon, because
I think it's misunderstood. You
know, these men who are dressing
up as women, in quotes, women,
they are not presenting
themselves as women. Strictly
speaking, they're presenting
women as monsters. And this is a
very, I think, a kind of a
subtle psychological ploy be one
thing if they were just saying,
you know, we're trying to make
ourselves as beautiful as
possible and pass ourselves off
as women, but they are so
obviously acting as monsters.
There's some other psychological
dynamic that's going on there
that you have to think is pretty
sick. It's the kind of thing
that's so subtle that it's
easily misunderstood even by
supposedly intelligent people
who are missing the point and
and the idea that the educated
class, the thinking class in
America, which predominates in
the left globalist Democratic
Party cohort, yes, the the fact
that they think that's okay
tells you that they're insane,
right there.
Adam Curry: That's an
interesting analysis, and we
have to make a distinction
between transvestites, which is
men who like to dress like
women, and drag queens who
indeed, he makes a good point.
And I think drag queens in
general are gay guys, very, you
know, kind of the the effeminate
girlfriend, flamboyant,
flamboyant. That's what I was
looking for. And there may be a
deep rooted, I would say,
probably fear. I'm not a
psychoanalyst, of course, a fear
of women or hate. I don't know
if it's really it's probably
Mom, mom issues, you know? Well,
yeah, but,
John C Dvorak: but the monsters
now is exactly right, yeah, if
you look at them, they're
monsters. There's not like a
person. No,
Adam Curry: no. Well, I guess
I'm gonna cancel, uh, the drag
queen story hour for our meetup
here in Fredericksburg. Now that
is interesting. I had, had not
really thought of it that way,
but it is inherently anti woman,
if you think about it.
John C Dvorak: I just found it.
Found the analysis. I was taken
aback.
Adam Curry: I never really
understood the appeal. I mean, I
think it started with female
impersonators, so I kind of, no,
I think I understood the Well,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna do Cher or
I'm gonna do Madonna, or I'm
gonna do Barbara Streisand, and
that was more like a vaudeville
esque, you know, it's funny.
It's like, is it Tim burleski,
burlesque? Yes, it was funny,
and they'd do an outrageous
impersonation. And, you know,
there was real money to be made
in that, but it just became a
whole thing all by itself. Yeah,
it that. You know what that is,
entropy, right there. Oh, stop,
stop. Sorry, entropy.
John C Dvorak: And. Entropy,
Adam Curry: yeah, it left to its
own devices. It just devolved.
And it just became horrible,
John C Dvorak: horrible, yeah,
horrible, horrible,
Adam Curry: horrible. Well, that
was refreshing.
Unknown: Can I move on that you
would lighten things up? Yeah,
Adam Curry: let me lighten
things up with some climate
change
John C Dvorak: under the
inflation Reduction Act seven
and a half billion for building
these charging stations. The
latest information, eight have
been built with the seven and a
half billion.
Adam Curry: This is an interview
with, I think, with budge are,
by the way,
John C Dvorak: on this note,
they've built they just gone on
for four years with the very
when Biden was first running,
oh, we're gonna build 500,000
charging stations. They built
eight. Meanwhile, as camel is
running, she's talking about
building 3 million homes. Yes,
they're not building one home.
They can't build eight of these
charging stations. They're going
to build all these homes.
Adam Curry: I don't think so. I
know why, but let's listen to
Buddha judge. First
John C Dvorak: that had been
allocated, you're supposed to
get to 500,000 of these charging
stations by 2030
Unknown: what is really the
problem with do you give you
looked at that and figured out
why? Oh, yeah, no, that's
that's on track. So we're at
about 190,000 publicly available
charging stations in the US,
that's approximately double what
the level was when President
Biden came in. The issue,
though, is that there are some
gaps in the market, ones that
are just not going to be built
by the private sector that's
been building the construction
of those chargers to date.
That's why the legislation
provided for funding to do
federally supported chargers
that are intended to be online
before 2030 now the bulk of that
construction will happen in 2728
quite a bit actually, I expect
by 2026 a handful, as you
mentioned, are actually already
up and running. But really what
you're going to see is more the
second half of this decade. And
it's really important to have
those federally supported
chargers, because you have
stretches of road, or even just
in the middle of our cities,
apartment buildings, places in
our economy where it just
doesn't yet pencil out for there
to be the private sector
profitably doing that. And you
know, even though about 80% of
EV charging happens at home, the
reality is the new EV kind of
landscape we're working toward
where the President's goals
about half of sales to be EVs by
the end of this decade, requires
us, by the end of this decade,
to have a lot of charging
apparatus that just isn't there
as we're sitting here in 2024
Adam Curry: so what Joe Kernan
there at CNBC did not get to the
reason that they have not built
them is because of the
requirements for the contracts,
this is so typical of this
particular administration, the
contracts require that these be
built by minority companies,
either women owned, people of
color owned, etc, and most
companies don't qualify. That's
what the holdup is. It's the
same thing with the broadband.
$42 billion worth of broadband,
all the stuff in the inflation
Reduction Act was all woke. They
put all of this woke
connotation, ESG, dei stuff onto
it, and that's why there's no
one is qualifying.
John C Dvorak: Well, this is a
plus.
Adam Curry: Well, yes, in a way,
it's a plus. I agree, because
these EVs made sexy by Elon
Musk, I am against them. I think
it's a bad idea. I don't like
them. I don't like the danger of
them. And in fact, they're quite
bad, even in traffic on the
highway, turning now
Unknown: to something you may
not know, the new crash tests of
electric vehicles, which point
to an unexpected danger.
Guardrails on America's roads
are typically tested against
vehicles weighing up to 5000
pounds, but many electric
vehicles weigh more than that,
up to 30% more, in fact, and
that means most guardrails may
not hold up in a collision.
Chris Van Cleave shows us the
consequences could be deadly.
More than 19,000 people died in
crashes where their vehicle left
the roadway last year. That's
nearly half of all traffic
deaths. Guardrails and similar
roadway barriers are designed to
reduce the number and severity
of these crashes. This is how a
guardrail is supposed to work,
containing a vehicle and
redirecting it back towards the
road. Watch what happened
Adam Curry: exploding here.
What's happening? Stop. Sorry
about that.
Unknown: Got a runaway board a
roadway barriers are designed to
reduce the number and severity
of these crashes. This is how a
guardrail is supposed to work,
containing a vehicle and
redirecting it back towards the
road, but watch what happens
when an electric sedan hits a
standard guardrail during this
new testing from the Texas
Transportation Institute, the
guardrail fails as the sedan
rips through the Insurance
Institute for Highway Safety
says it is concerned about EVs
and. Additional weight resulting
in more severe crashes, a
concern NTSB chair Jennifer
homendy told CBS News she
shares, I
Bag: think it does present
significant challenges for
safety. In March, Senator
Unknown: Fischer asked chair
homody about EVs and guardrails
during a Senate hearing. Our
guardrails crash attenuators,
they are rated up to 5000
pounds. Many of these vehicles
go up to 10,000 pounds, so that
has an impact on safety.
The EPA estimates half of all
new car sales could be EVs by
2032 not much time to raise the
bar on roadside safety barriers.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's the first
thing that has to change, is
this. EPA. You know, the reason
this is happening is because of
the the emission standards,
which make it almost mandatory
for automobile manufacturers to
create a certain number of
electric vehicles in their
fleet, even if they lose money
on it, so they can just sell
regular cars to people who want
to just Have a good vehicle,
yeah,
John C Dvorak: a reliable
vehicle that that started fill
up, you can recharge at a gas
station in like 10, five
minutes, as opposed to an hour.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: and it doesn't
ignite and burn for days if you
crash it through the guardrail,
which won't hold back. No, none
of this is good. So dumb. Bo
it's Elon. It's sexy. It's
great, man. You hear about this
warlord, this Chechen warlord,
who bought a cyber truck, he
says that Elon gave it to him,
which I totally believe, and and
then he remotely disabled it,
which is quite telling.
John C Dvorak: But Elon gave him
a cyber truck and then disabled
it. So the Chechen warlord was
like a waste of money. The
Chechen,
Adam Curry: well, the Chechen
warlord, they've had lots of
these cyber trucks with machine
guns mounted on the back. Lots
of, uh, lots
John C Dvorak: of guys bought
these. That'd be kind of cool
looking.
Adam Curry: It does look cool.
There's, I have photos of it in
this article. This is Zero Hedge
article. So this Chechen warlord
said, Elon Musk did something
ugly. He gave me this beautiful
cyber truck, then he disabled
it. And of course, Elon the only
thing Elon is replying is, you
think I gave a cyber truck to a
Chechen warlord? Well, that's
not the story. The story is they
can be disabled by remote. I
think every single Tesla can be
disabled by remote, yeah, of
course, or taken over remotely
driven. Drive right
John C Dvorak: into a wall.
Nobody. I
Adam Curry: just got a new you,
like this guy, I just got a EULA
from my car. Like, Oh, we've
done a software update. Well,
maybe I don't want that now. I
gotta dig through this Ula, see
what they can do. But I'm sure
that they're during
John C Dvorak: one of the
hurricanes, if you recall in
Florida, when everyone's had
these electric cars, they
couldn't charge they sent out a
software upgrade. They gave them
an extra 100 miles of they could
drive further. Yeah,
Adam Curry: now it works better.
Here you go. Normally, that cost
you $20,000 here it is for free.
You know what that is? Entropy,
John C Dvorak: all of it. Well,
no, it's just the opposite.
Everything
Adam Curry: I'm saying now is
going to be entropy. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I know it's
because, well, it's better than
some of the other stuff you've
done.
Adam Curry: Gee, thanks. I mean,
it's, it's the great
John C Dvorak: reveal.
Adam Curry: You've dropped that
one. It's the season of reveal.
Well, the reason I like the
great reveal, the reason I
stopped this because whenever I
said it, you would go some
reveal. That's not a reveal. So
I stopped it because,
John C Dvorak: you know your so
I have to, so I have to carp, do
Adam Curry: you just have to say
good one, Adam, that would be
helpful.
John C Dvorak: I say that all
the time. Sure you do. I do your
last presentation, the last
show, I complimented you
profusely. Thank
Adam Curry: you. Well, I will
bring back the season of reveal,
because it hasn't stopped.
John C Dvorak: Oh, god no.
Adam Curry: So we can't have RFK
Jr in the administration soon
enough, because, man, they're
really going after beef now,
which is a real problem. You
already heard Tedros, if you
recall a few shows back. The
problem is beef. We must reduce
our intake of beef. It is not
good. The beef, I don't know,
man, I look at Texas slim. Texas
Slim's grandparents, all they
ate was beef and maybe a potato.
They look pretty good. Everybody
looks slim and trim. And they
worked out in the on the on the
ranch for 18 hours a day. And
they liked it, and they and they
read their their Bible by
candlelight at night when times
were good. But no, no. No, now
we have to get rid of beef
because, well, due to climate
change, do
Unknown: you know about meat
fluencers?
Adam Curry: Do you know about
meat fluencers? John,
Unknown: oh brother, no, I have
not heard of that. This is
Adam Curry: NPR, in case you are
wondering. Okay.
Unknown: Well, these are great
online personalities and
celebrities often pushing the
idea that men should eat lots of
meat. Often
Adam Curry: they're talking
about you, I'm a meat
influencer. I'm totally are,
well, I don't quite fit the
bill, because I don't have the
body build that you that you're
supposed to have. But this is
like, Yeah, this is like, Texas
slim who was anything but, but a
beefed up dude. This is like the
meat mafia boys, our friends the
meat mafia. They're all meat
fluencers, lots
Unknown: of meat, often lots of
red meat, beef to live up to
their potential. Some of them
are actually selling beef
products, including supplements
made of beef meat. Some of them
don't just promote the benefits
of eating lots of red meat. Some
of them spread false and
misleading views about eating
certain plants. How
Adam Curry: can a view be false
and misleading? Isn't that just
your view?
John C Dvorak: A misleading
view?
Adam Curry: Yeah, view, view,
particularly
Unknown: these guys,
Adam Curry: come on, man. This
is good stuff. This is, this is
gold. Them
Unknown: spread false and
misleading views about eating
certain plants, particularly
soy, including the idea that,
Adam Curry: yeah, they're gonna
tell me that it's it's mean,
it's mean if you make fun of
soy,
Unknown: particularly soy,
including the idea that soy can
feminize men.
Adam Curry: Is this true? John,
John C Dvorak: well, you know,
there is an estrogen analog in
soy oil that I believe makes men
grow breasts. Here's
Unknown: Joe Rogan describing
that for you. Soy
is one of the rare foods that's
actually attached to being a
bitch.
Some men are afraid of consuming
soy. It has a stigma. There's
even a derogatory term for weak
men called soy boys. It's a
pretty popular term.
I have not heard the term soy
boy. What? Okay,
John C Dvorak: hold on. This is
NPR. Stop the clip. You have not
heard the word soy boy. Get off
the air.
Unknown: Researchers say
changing diets will require new
messaging.
Listen up. America, meat
has problems, and it's gonna
take us meat eaters to solve.
This guy in
the ad, he looks kind of like a
big, burly man, and he's walking
around aggressively, you
Adam Curry: know, I'd rather
have the AI podcast than these
two. I'll be straight up honest
with you, this is this is
painful, and it's on NPR, our
national treasure. Exactly,
Unknown: he was slapping a beef
hamburger out of some guy's
hand. He replaced it with a
plant based burger. Because this
is an ad for the plant based
food company, Impossible Foods.
Okay, let's go on, because now
we can turn plants into burgers
and hot dogs, even meatballs.
Then someone offers the main guy
a helmet and he gets on a
motorcycle. We're solving
the meat problem with
more meat, impossible, meat from
plants. He
gets on the motorcycle and he
zooms off, exploding, exploding
to the horizon. I showed this
Impossible Foods ad to Gabriel
Rosenberg. He's a professor of
Gender Studies at Duke
University. There
Adam Curry: we go. There we go.
A professor, there we go. We've
gone from meat to soy boys to
gender studies. You know what
that is? Enjoy entropy,
obviously,
Unknown: Gabriel specifically
studies gender and food, and he
thinks there's some very
important symbolism going on
gender.
John C Dvorak: And wait, so
these guys are so hard up for
something to do, these gender
professors that they're studying
gender and food, that's right.
And they make it a course. Hey,
you would like, take gender and
food 1010. Yeah. I want to take
that. I want to take gender and
food.
Unknown: Is this, like, like,
older figure of, like,
masculinity. He's
Adam Curry: teaching you how to
be a man, and then he's, like,
explosively mural. It's
basically just saying, men, you
have permission to eat our
product and still be manly and
still be masculine. How? Why do
you need a PhD in gender studies
to make that analysis? Anyway?
Here's, here's the last part
Unknown: I got on a zoom with
Peter McGinnis. He's the
president and CEO of Impossible
Foods. You
Adam Curry: think this is some
kind of native ad or some kind
of promotion.
John C Dvorak: Possible foods
been mentioned at least three
times, maybe more.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This.
John C Dvorak: They paid for
this. I think this is a paid for
native ad on NPR. We've we catch
them all the time. I'm glad you
got this one. It's not It's
sickening sickness. The
Unknown: main. One thing Peter
found is that there were people
they weren't reaching customers
who see plant based food and
think it isn't for them. So
Adam Curry: we got on, we got
our sales team on the call to
talk to them, because, hey, we
can help you reach your soy
boys. That's our demo, right
here. NPR listeners are soy
boys. They'll love your product
will do a whole special for you.
They
Unknown: see it as food for
vegans and vegetarians. Peter
wants it to be more inclusive.
That really means more meat
eaters to reach more of them.
Peter says they needed to change
the branding. I think we
had the messaging wrong for a
long, long time on all this
stuff.
John C Dvorak: Wait, this is the
excuse for the effect of their
sales suck because their product
sucks this terrible tasting that
we have bad messaging, yeah, we
weren't able to bullshit the
public enough.
Unknown: Impossible Foods was
founded to help curb climate
change, to reduce that huge
amount of climate to
John C Dvorak: curb climate
change.
Adam Curry: I drink to curb
climate change from
Unknown: animal agriculture, but
Peter says in their advertising,
they are not leaning into
climate
Yeah, because, you know, climate
change, like so many other
things, has become politicized
and kind of a part of the
culture wars. It's
and Peter doesn't want his
customers to associate his
product with politics at
all. Please.
We don't want anything partisan
political weird the
Adam Curry: packaging. He
doesn't want Republicans eating
it
Unknown: often associated with
environmentalists to red
so it looks like red meat, so
we're leaning into that, right?
All those meat cues,
right? They want to make a cute
tent to welcome meat eaters. But
psychology researchers say ads
like this are important. They
can broaden social acceptance
for plant based foods, to shift
diets away from beef. Shifting
social norms will be key. Wow.
Adam Curry: There you go. Your
national treasure at work. Well,
that sucked. Oh, it didn't suck.
John C Dvorak: Oh, these people
are destroying the world as
entropy.
Adam Curry: That is indeed a NPR
is a perfect example of entropy.
Meanwhile, the New World Order
is meeting this week in New
York. It's a big deal. Big. Big
deal. We got the UN General
Assembly. Actually, there was an
interesting report on TRT, which
was like some kind of predictive
programming. This
Unknown: year's UN General
Assembly will see upwards of 142
world leaders in New York City
all at once. It will be
surrounded by an unprecedented
massive security blanket of
heavily armed police, Secret
Service and Diplomatic Security
agents the assassination
attempts on former President
Donald Trump have impacted the
already heightened security
measures in place. The
Department
of Homeland Security has given
it the designation of national
special security event.
What's changed from this year
from last year is obviously
October 7, there
have been more than 4000
protests in New York City
against Israel's breeder war on
Gaza since last October, it has
also changed the dynamic of the
security inside the UN with the
expected arrival of President
Joe Biden, Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas and Ukraine's President
Vladimir Zelinsky. Attacks on
the UN building here have been
rare, but the most notable
occurring in 1964 when a bazooka
was fired from across the East
River here during a speech by
Che Guevara of Cuba in the
General Assembly Hall. Now the
bazooka shell fell short about
180 meters from the shoreline
here, but the diplomats inside
this building were rattled.
Adam Curry: Man, I never heard
about, I never heard about the
bazooka shot from across the
river.
John C Dvorak: I'm older than
you, and I never heard of it,
but
Adam Curry: it really, it
really, kind of got my mind
thinking, you know, like, what
if everyone's a cell phone just,
John C Dvorak: Oh, I see what
you're saying. This predictive
programming so somebody's gonna
do something. Wow. What a
perfect and we're gonna be some
of you, okay, yeah. Well, this
happened before it has, yeah,
they just said, No,
Adam Curry: the bazooka, yeah,
but it was unsuccessful that
dropped. It
John C Dvorak: may not even
happen for all I know. I don't
remember anything about it.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's, what a
perfect place to change landed
John C Dvorak: in the drink. I
mean, come on, what a perfect
place. How they know is a
bazooka. Well, that's, uh, all
right, I guess we have to do
some research on the show
bazooka
Adam Curry: attack. UN building
19. 64 let's see bazooka fired
it. Yeah, there it is. The New
York Times does
John C Dvorak: mean it hasn't
been placed after the fact
Adam Curry: it is. I have the
printed article in The New York
Times archive. Even better,
Bazooka fired at UN as Cuban
speaks, launched in Queens,
missile explodes in East River.
About that. Can you imagine how,
how history would change? I
mean, they can't stop a drone.
Think about it. That would
really change history.
John C Dvorak: Well, you can
have a drone, yeah, the drone
thing has not hit this country
yet. It's bound to, let's face
it,
Adam Curry: no, but that is the
future. It's the future of
asymmetric warfare.
Unknown: The UN Security Council
met in New York to discuss the
crisis in the Middle East after
four days of intensive Israeli
attacks on Hezbollah, the
organization's human rights
chief, Volker Turk, said he was
appalled by what he called the
indiscriminate targeting of
1000s of people in Lebanon
through the explosions of
communication devices, and said
it violated international law.
International humanitarian law
prohibits the use of booby trap
devices in the form of
apparently harmless, portable
objects. Well, that's no fun
which are specifically designed
and constructed to contain
explosive material, it is a war
crime to commit violence
intended to spread terror among
civilians. I call again for an
independent, thorough and
transparent investigation into
the circumstances of these
explosions. Those who ordered
and carried out these attacks
must be held to account please.
The Under Secretary General for
Political Affairs, Rosemary
DiCarlo, said that it wasn't too
late for diplomacy. The
risk to security and stability,
not only in Lebanon, but also in
the region, could not be clearer
or graver. The Secretary General
has already expressed his deep
alarm over these events, I echo
his sentiments and strongly urge
all actors to exercise maximum
restraint to avert any further
escalation. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they're worried
about themselves. I'm telling
you, it wouldn't be hard to
inject something into a whole
new series of iPhones or
anything. I think they're taking
it very lightly this.
John C Dvorak: Well, you might
be right. I mean, yeah, all you
need is a man in the middle. You
need somebody just to get to,
you know, somebody in between
China. Anybody's phones.
Adam Curry: These things are
made in China.
John C Dvorak: Hello. Yeah,
well, you can just do it from
the factory. Then if you want,
that's what I think,
Bag: definitely,
John C Dvorak: for all we know,
every iPhone out there, for all
we know, already rigged is pre
rigged. Yep, you can't unless
you can, you take the battery
out. Can you just drop the
battery out and you find out?
No, no, no, not on Well, that's
an interesting coincidence. The
phone I have in a drawer, you
can take the battery out. You
have to, because it dies after a
couple of years in the drawer.
New batteries. I've
Adam Curry: got the pixel six
with the graphene OS, I can take
the battery out. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I still, I've
seen all these different videos
I have yet to see anyone explain
the triggering mechanism,
talking about, oh, you got a
little Semtech in the back
there, a little bit. You don't
even need much, and it's in the
behind a battery.
Adam Curry: There's still, you
know, there's still some
theories out there, and I wish
we would hear about it. I mean,
they kind of went away from the
story. There's still some
theories that it was Petn or
Semtex in a battery.
John C Dvorak: Believe, yeah,
could be that, but, but if it's
in the battery, how do you
trigger it? How do you how do
you have the explosion take
place at the same time? Besides,
maybe it was the caught, you
know, the rays from the solar
flare, which is an interesting
thesis, because it did happen on
the day that you lost your
connection to Starling.
Adam Curry: I'm not sure how the
solar flare would, would affect
it, but it would, it could,
anything is possible, but we,
but we don't
John C Dvorak: know, what is the
mechanism for exploding these
phones? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't know the
phone. I mean, it's it, I mean,
you triggers. Look, there's lots
of external pins that you can
you can make go hot. You can
bring up a PIN. You know, that
is, you know, haptic there's,
there's haptics in the there's
vibration. These are motors,
there's energy. So you can do
all kinds of stuff with that.
John C Dvorak: I would like to
know exactly how you can make it
a phone explode. Well, I
Adam Curry: think you should
talk to unit 8200 they seem is
that 8200 The Israel or 8400 the
Israel is 8600 Yeah, whatever.
It's the Jews. John, hello, it's
obvious. We all know who did it.
John C Dvorak: I would just
like, I've seen all these guys
yakking about this and the No
one says, explain how it works.
Well,
Adam Curry: Trump spoke to the
Jews.
John C Dvorak: Yes, he and of
course, the right left wingers
went on and on about how Trump's
going to blame the Jews. Here it
is. Trump
Unknown: has said Jews who
support Democrats, quote, have
to have their head examined, and
claimed Harris doesn't like
Jewish people today. Harris's
husband, second gentleman, Doug
emhoff, himself Jewish
responding in an interview with
ABC Michael Strahan, he
said this quote, she doesn't
like Jewish people, and you like
me, you're Jewish American. So
what was your reaction when you
heard that in real time.
So it's typical Donald Trump
gaslighting. So he is
gaslighting somebody who is,
how's
that gaslighting?
Adam Curry: Well, in context of
the Jews, it's a pretty
interesting quote. Oh,
Unknown: so it's typical Donald
Trump gaslighting. So he is
somebody who has had dinner with
known anti Semites after the
horrific events of
Charlottesville, where people
are actually marching with Tiki
torches saying Jews shall not
replace us. And he said there
were fine people on both sides
of that lie.
Adam Curry: There's the big lie.
And he said there are very fine
people on both sides
Unknown: place us. And he said
there were fine people on both
sides of that. This is a guy who
has, can
John C Dvorak: they keep doing
that?
Adam Curry: Well, because it's
easy and and the only people who
say that's a lie is some two old
dudes on a podcast who have hot
takes,
John C Dvorak: even Snopes says
it's a lie, yeah, but
Adam Curry: this is the football
guy on on ABC. He's not gonna
say, Hey, man, that's a lie. No,
the all of the media is skewed.
It's all a lie. It's all it
should not be watched. It's not
for it's not fit for
consumption. It's like
impossible meat had
Unknown: a record of saying
incredibly vile anti semitic
things. So for him to say that I
just Yeah, trolls
Adam Curry: make a good point
that what he just did there is
literally gaslighting,
John C Dvorak: right? That's
gaslighting, but you say, oh,
there it is. The old you are
what I say. I am what I say. You
are what yourself being
Adam Curry: yourself but your
corporate health,
Unknown: marching with Tiki
torches, saying Jews shall not
replace us. And he said there
were fine people on both sides
of that. This is a guy who has
had a record of saying
incredibly vile anti semitic
things. So for him to say that,
Adam Curry: what vile anti
semitic things has he said
John C Dvorak: there are fine
people on both sides. Okay,
Unknown: so for him to say that,
I just almost laugh at the
chutzpah, as we would say
Yiddish there. Now, while
Harris's event with Oprah here
in Detroit is aimed at a broader
audience, her campaign is well
aware of just how critical this
state is. A new Quinnipiac poll
shows Harris leading slightly
here in Michigan, 50 to 45%
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, at the
latest Trump rally, he's got
some new stick to motivate
people to go out and vote. Have
you heard his new stick?
John C Dvorak: No, I have not.
We can do all ears. Okay, here,
it's very short,
Adam Curry: but you will like
it. We can do
Unknown: all of this and more,
but patriotic New Yorkers must
get your asses out to vote.
Harry. Get up, Harry. Harry, get
your fat ass out of the couch.
You're gonna vote for Trump
today.
Harry, get up. Harry, come on.
Let's
go. Let's go. Harry,
John C Dvorak: actually have
heard that's
Adam Curry: good. I hadn't heard
that one yet. It's great. I like
it. I like it. Yeah, it's
hilarious. They're
John C Dvorak: eating the dogs.
Yeah, they
Adam Curry: are exactly. I don't
know if you had a clip about
this, but I thought it was
noteworthy. It seems to kind of
just being reported on in
passing. It seems like a bigger
story to me. Actually, let me
see, I think you have two clips.
Do you have the second moon? Do
you have a second moon clip?
John C Dvorak: I have a two
clips. And I have a, yeah, it's
a yikes series. Okay, there you
go. Which means that there's
something. There's a piece of
information in here that made me
go, yikes.
Unknown: Earth has a new visitor
in space. It's an asteroid named
2024 Pete. E5 catchy
as the asteroid was whizzing by
on its path around the sun, the
Earth's gravity disrupted it,
and the space rock and the earth
are now in a fleeting
gravitational dance. Scientists
spotted the space rock last
month using a telescope in South
Africa. That telescope is part
of the NASA funded asteroid
terrestrial impact last alert
system. And while that name
sounds pretty dire, there's no
need to worry. This asteroid is
not on a collision course with
Earth.
Adam Curry: What is what's the
acronym to that? Hold on a
second. I'll
Unknown: dance. Scientists
spotted the space rock last
month using a telescope in South
Africa. That telescope is part
of the NASA funded asteroid
terrestrial impact last alert
system and, well, that name
sounds pretty Attila.
Adam Curry: Now there's NASA
guys. Okay, so what was the
Yikes?
John C Dvorak: They spotted this
asteroid just a month ago. How
much time would that give you if
it was headed right to Earth? 30
days? They can't get these guys
off the shuttle that went up,
the Boeing shuttle that went up
and dropped these people off,
they couldn't even bring them
back. And we got 30 days. Yeah,
yeah. They had this whole system
in place to look for asteroids
headed for Earth. And they got,
they spotted this thing 30 days
ago.
Adam Curry: Yeah, maybe, maybe
it's time for Mythbusters to
come in. I don't know. I don't
think they know anything.
John C Dvorak: Here's part two.
They, at least they describe a
little bit more of the asteroids
the size of a bus. Writing
Unknown: this month in the
journal Research notes of the
American Astronomical Society,
scientists estimate the asteroid
is 33 feet long, about the size
of a bus, and sorry, backyard
astronomers, it'll be too small
and dim to see with amateur
telescopes. And
while the space rock has picked
up the nickname of a mini moon,
tracing a temporary arc around
the Earth, there's some
disagreement whether it truly
lives up to that title, because
it won't make a full orbit
around our planet before
departing again in the coming
months to continue its journey
around the sun.
Adam Curry: Wow. Kind of reminds
me of that John Cullen guy, the
bird flu guy, no, yeah, that's
the guy who said it was about
h1, 5n, or whatever. It wasn't,
it wasn't about covid that.
That's why Trump was talking
about 1917 instead of 1918 he
also has this whole whole theory
that all of the emergency
hospitals were built because
there were so many asteroids all
of a sudden flying around the
earth that they expected one to
hit the Earth. He's got some
pretty out there theories.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one.
Adam Curry: He's got some hot
takes, speaking of speaking of
Boeing, who can't bring anybody
back, Boeing's
Unknown: defense space and
Security Division has a new
temporary president and CEO. The
company ousted Theodore Colbert
and replaced him with Chief
Operating Officer, Steve Parker.
Boeing has been under increased
scrutiny after the Starliner
capsule experienced that
thruster malfunction and
stranded two astronauts on the
International Space Station.
Adam Curry: Yeah, bye. Can't
bring our astronauts back. Can't
keep anything going. You're out.
You're done, you're done, and
that Boeing strike still
continues. When is Musk going to
announce that he's he's taking
over all the Boeing business?
Douche: It's going to be a
while,
Unknown: maybe. So
John C Dvorak: there's a the
West Wing, the old TV show,
yeah. Well, they're bringing it
back. At least they're bringing
the cash. It's
Adam Curry: the dream. This is
what all Democrats want. They
want the White House to be like
West Wing. That's the way it
should be. Was already brought.
They
John C Dvorak: brought on an
anniversary. They brought him to
the White House because Jill
Biden, and if anyone has noticed
this seems to be running things
that way. Woodrow Wilson's wife
did, in fact, she was at the
Cabinet meeting, yes, and Joe
threw it to her.
Adam Curry: Is that in this
clip? No, no, I actually have, I
thought I had a, I thought a
clip of that. I didn't get the
Joe throwing it to her, but I
got the explanation as to what
she was doing. Because,
remember, she's a doctor, Jim,
Joe Biden,
Unknown: Dr Biden, the First
Lady in attendance today as
well. Yeah,
yeah. I mean, this is important
and interesting Cabinet meeting
because of who is not there,
which was vice president Harris,
obviously, who has her campaign
schedule. But then because of
the spotlight that the first
lady did have, she talked about
the fact that sometimes the
White House, in her words,
surprises you. And for somebody
who has worked on women's health
issues for her whole career,
frankly, as a teacher, but also
as the second lady, and now is
the first lady, she said, Since
Adam Curry: when has she worked
on women's health issues? That's
John C Dvorak: what I'd like to
know. I never heard this. But,
you know, I
Adam Curry: think that just
conflating. Dr Biden was like,
Oh, she's worked on women's
health issues for oh,
John C Dvorak: like whoopee did
when she thought that Dr Biden
should be there in general.
Where
Adam Curry: is that cliff?
Whoopee, Dr Biden, let me see. I
have it somewhere. Whoopee,
Jill, I think, let me see dr, I
guess not. Ah, we had it. Oh, I
know it's disappointing. What
can I say? Disappointment? So I
always play the west wing clip.
Yes, let's do that. West Wing
Unknown: is celebrating his 25th
anniversary this week, and
pierce Chloe Veltman reports
actors and producers from the
hit political TV drama marked
the occasion at the White House
yesterday at the invitation of
First Lady, Jill Biden
during his speech in the White
House Rose Garden West Wing
creator Aaron Sorkin said his
show about a principled
fictional US president, played
by Martin Sheen, was, quote,
idealistic, aspirational,
aspirational, aspirational and
romantic. Over
the years, I've noticed that
during times of peak political
tension, pundits will warn us
not to expect a West Wing
moment. They mean not to expect
a selfless act of statesmanship,
not to expect anyone to put
country first. Don't
expect anyone to swing for the
fences or reach for the stars.
However,
Sorkin said President Joe
Biden's decision not to run for
a second term proves that West
Wing moments are indeed possible
in real life. The West Wing ran
on NBC from 1999 to 2006
John C Dvorak: so man Jill
brought them in. She's right in
the place.
Adam Curry: Does she have the
nuclear codes?
Unknown: Probably, that's
Adam Curry: the question we all
have on our minds. Does she have
the nuclear codes?
John C Dvorak: I have a clip
here called debate nonsense,
slant. Vice President NPR clip,
sorry. Vice
Unknown: President Harris, Vice
President Harris's campaign says
she accepted an invitation to a
second debate with former
President Trump, but as NPRs Don
gagne reports, Trump says that's
not going to happen.
Former President Trump reacted
to the news that the Harris
campaign is agreeing to do a
second debate by telling a rally
in Wilmington, North Carolina,
that quote, it's just too late.
And he accused Harris of wanting
to do another debate because, as
Trump put it, her campaign is
going. Quote, badly again, he
rejected the idea of another
debate, saying he's done two
already.
John C Dvorak: I Yeah, well,
just back to, by the way, this
debate, they wanted to do
another one on CNN. Oh no,
Harris won't do one on Fox,
where they actually have
somebody that might be
objective, like Brett bear. I
Adam Curry: want to go back to
Eleanor Biden for a moment,
maybe she's the one that pulled
the trigger on stealing the
Russians money. They finally did
it on
Unknown: diplomatic visits,
almost every detail sends some
kind of message, like the
flowers given to Ursula von der
Leyen as she arrived in Kyiv,
the President of the European
Commission visited a memorial
for those killed in the war, and
inspected generators offered by
Europe Ukraine's power grid is
at the heart of her visit.
Europe has pledged a 35 billion
year old loan. One of its main
goals is to repair Ukraine's
energy network. The
European Union is here to help
you in this challenge, to keep
the lights on, to keep your
people warm as winter is just
around the world, and to keep
your economy going as you fight
for your survival,
roughly half of Ukraine's energy
infrastructure has been
destroyed in the war. It's one
of the key targets. President
Volodymyr Zelensky says the loan
granted by the EU will also be
used for weapons, for the air
defense and for shelters. The
loan is part of the $50 billion
package from g7 countries.
Profits from Frozen Russian
assets will be used as
collateral for Russia's
government. This amounts to
stealing. It's
no exaggeration to say that
these facts of large scale theft
of Russian assets will finally
nullify the authority and trust
of the international community
in the European Union. That's
right.
Adam Curry: Put your trust in
our money networks. Don't worry
about it.
John C Dvorak: This idiotic is
dumb. I'm gonna
Unknown: show my school by
donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be
fabulous.
Adam Curry: Morning. What is not
dumb is what's coming up after
we're done today. We do have
some more show for you, a live
Battle of the Bands. Value for
value. Battle of the Bands. The
satellite skirmish is coming up,
so you do not want to tune away
when that comes up right after
we play our end of show mixes.
We also have some meetup
reports. We have our Commodores.
We're welcoming on board, and we
have some people to thank for
supporting us with some value
for value.
Unknown: You know, we
John C Dvorak: do. We don't have
that many. We have about 20.
Okay, well, thank you. Ryan
perusi, or perusi, is the top of
the list. He's in San Diego.
Hold on a second. My eyes itchy.
133, 33 and he says, I will read
his notes. I've got that many
fellas, you guys have changed my
life and my and many friends
changed my life and changed my
friends.
Adam Curry: His friends have run
away from him, probably,
John C Dvorak: yeah, okay, well,
he's promoting the show which is
good. Ian field parts are known
as $100 Henry Davis in St
Petersburg, Florida, another guy
from St Petersburg, $100 he
needs a D douching.
Unknown: You've been deduced.
John C Dvorak: Brian Lillard in
Prosper Texas, 8088, 88 they
were already to Kevin McLaughlin
in Concord, North Carolina. He's
the Archduke Luna, lover of
American boobs at 808, along
with Aaron Weisberg and weiberg.
Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin,
808 and then we already jump way
down from to Les Tarkowski in
Kingman, Arizona, 6006 first
time that's ever happened. Wow.
We get from big boobs and small
boobs. Boom, boom,
Adam Curry: boom, boom,
John C Dvorak: boom. Abraham in
Arlington, Virginia, okay, uh,
60 uh. Matthew Martel in brumal,
Pennsylvania, 5856 you gotta
read this one. Sorry, fellas, I
can't afford your CPM. I can
only swing a CPT visit Martel
hardware.com, use coupon code
blame PayPal for 10% off your
order. Okay, let's push that up
to the $200 mark. Matthew, yeah,
please. James, bro freight,
freighter ish Frederick in
McFarland, Wisconsin, 5510 your
he I read his note, your show is
neat Oh, neato. There's a term,
neato, baby. It's Neato. I would
assume it's Japanese. By the
way, congratulations to Ono Sato
for winning the sumo competition
the second time he's won the
award in the last three years.
As a young guy, he'll be up to
Ozeki within no time, he's going
to be Ozeki next year or next
tournament. This guy is the next
Joe kazuna. Well, I will be
saying it to the bank. I
Adam Curry: will be celebrating
with Sir Mark and daymastered in
a week and a half. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, I'm sure
they're aware of this. This is
on a one today, before the term
is even over. He had too many
wins. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you're
thrilled. Dame Nancy in San
Bruno, California, 54 Mark
Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 5333
Leslie Wilbur in Loxahatchee,
Florida. 5272 Paul Hobbs and can
connugra is in cannura,
Queensland, Australia. 5272
Adam Curry: conundra. I think
it's conundrum.
John C Dvorak: Conundru, congra
could be, think so. For Scott
Brinkley in North Carolina, 5272
these are all $50 donors.
Actually, Steven crummy and El
Cajon, 5272 Forrest, Martin 505.
And now we got the $50 donors,
and there's only 12345, of them.
It's that low. It's that bad.
Uh, thank God for the
Commodores. Nicholas aruto which
in Harpers Ferry, Wisconsin, uh,
West Virginia. Sorry. Michael
sycora in New Richmond,
Wisconsin. Deborah Cornyn in
pincher Creek, Alberta, Canada,
and she says she's in the
Barbados Dame flying fish, as a
matter of fact, Jimmy Rowe in
Warrington, Pennsylvania. And
last on our short list is Dan
Wyrick in Corpus Christi, Texas,
and he has a call out. Hank is a
douchebag. And that's our group
of well wish. Supporters and
producers for show, 1697,
Adam Curry: value for value.
That's the only way that we make
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well, how about that? Today is
buzzkill Jr's birthday.
Congratulations. Buzzkill Jr, as
serpent in the troll room turns
35 today and tomorrow, Sir Ben
Rose, who doesn't know him from
the troll room in the screen,
will be celebrating his birthday
and his wedding anniversary.
Happy Birthday and
Congratulations, everybody here
at the best podcast in the
universe. So I think we should
do our Commodores first,
probably. Or should we do a
night? Or first? I'll do the
Commodore. Okay, so this is all
new, everybody. So the whole
idea is that we welcome our new
Commodores. We need to get them
all positioned up here on the
stage, because we're about to
hand them out. We say
congratulations to Commodore
gizmo Commodore kulaban Go.
Commodore Helmer and Commodore
krimbe. Welcome to our new
Commodores. What do you think?
John C Dvorak: It's good? It's
good. Okay, have one other
element. I'm not sure what,
okay, not complaining. Shall
Adam Curry: we have a meeting
after the show?
John C Dvorak: God, no, let's do
what you're doing. It's fine.
Adam Curry: Okay, give me a
blade. We got one night to bring
up on this. They said that one
Christian, Christian Friedman,
please step on up here. You sir,
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then you just add a little bit
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bourbon, sparkling cider,
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And as always, for all the
knights and the dames at the
round table, we have a nice
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It's a signet ring. If you give
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your important correspondence
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Once again. Welcome to the
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San Marcos River.
Everybody's getting excited for
the meetup here in
Fredericksburg, Texas on October
18. Reminder that if you are
bringing a donation to put in an
envelope with a note and with
your name, please, because
that's the very difficult if we
can't remember who gave what we
take on the spot donations.
That'll be October 18 in
Fredericksburg right now,
though, we have a meet up report
from the September 19 Denver
Shindig. Hey,
Unknown: folks, Denver meet up.
This
is cousin Vito. Let's see if
Uncle Moshe wants to talk. Uncle
moishi, you want to say anything
to everybody? Oi denvanita,
Uncle moishi,
there are Musa squirrel, I
know I can't do it. I'm sorry.
Boys,
introduction to the Mormon.
Sixes. Care Bear, the
not so secret lives of ex
Mormon, ex wives Colorado. Care
Bear,
hey, this is Nate second meet
up. Still not a spook. This
is Josh Sumption coming in from
North Aurora north. Call Aurora
Colorado, and we are turning in
all of our boons. We are going
to get them inspected for any
explosives that may be inside
Adam Curry: it. Editing the
comedy right in in San Diego.
Here's their meetup report. Hey,
Unknown: John and Adam. This is
Sir Mike at the monthly meetup
here in Rancho Bernardo, San
Diego. ITM let me pass this
around.
This is Sir Matthew Black Knight
of the ice giants. Or you may
know me in the value versus Matt
the tall I'll be performing in
the second satellite skirmish on
Sunday, the 22nd coming up. So
if you want to come and spend
some SATs, watch some cool
music,
check it out.
This is Sir Joffe. I still need
to come up with a funny tagline.
I don't have one, but I did just
have some delicious roast cat
and mutt.
Hello from Taylor and a future
human resource on
the way in the morning,
Kelly, Dame of the crushed
grapes in the morning. Just had
a little pizza with
some geese on it.
I see I'm John and Adam. This is
Dame on love. You mean it Adam
and
John hit it's Victor on my way
to be. In a third and bring back
the good new segment. And four
more years is not enough.
All right. On three, ITM 123,
Adam Curry: in San Diego. Thank
you for reporting in we have
meetups taking place today. One
actually at margaritas. Keene,
that is in Keene, New Hampshire.
It's a too many eggs.com. Meet
up number six on Thursday, our
next show day to North Georgia,
monthly at six o'clock at Cherry
Street. Brewing in Alpharetta,
Georgia. And on the way, in the
next couple of months, we have
rich in Washington, Tilburg, the
Netherlands, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Pickton, Ontario, Camp Hill,
Pennsylvania, Indianapolis,
Indiana Bay City, Michigan.
Keene, New Hampshire, again,
Fredericksburg, Texas, October
18. Be there. Curry the keeper
will be there. Bedford, Texas,
ochi, Okeechobee, Florida,
Ottawa, Ontario, Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania, Emeryville,
California, Bastrop Texas,
Ocala, Florida, Sacramento,
California, West Palm Beach,
Florida, and adventura Florida.
Many more meetups that you can
find, no agenda, meetups.com.
You have not lived until you've
been to a no agenda meetup. It's
that simple. If you can't find
one near you, start one yourself
and start living today.
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with all the nights
and days where everybody
game. It's like a
Adam Curry: party. Oh, man, I'm
glad you brought some ISOs,
because I have a very I only
have one offering, and I don't
think it's any good. I don't
think it's any good. I'll play
mine.
Unknown: Let's move on to
marijuana. No
Adam Curry: See, I don't like
it's no good. That's it. That's
all I got. I'm sorry I spent
time on AI stuff.
John C Dvorak: I have three. I
do have one that's a little long
and probably not usable, but it
since I had to find this guy
rough head, a Navy guy, yeah.
Now I have a woman whose name is
Hancock and sheep, and she says
the following can't
Unknown: get it out fast enough
because our hands are so busy in
that moment.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's too long
and too suggestive. It's
John C Dvorak: very suggestive,
but I couldn't figure out what
she's talking about. Okay, let's
go. It's welcome. You're
welcome.
Adam Curry: That's always a
winner, always a winner, always
a winner.
John C Dvorak: And then no big
deal. Yeah,
Unknown: well, it's
no big deal. Wow. I
Adam Curry: don't know if I like
Well, you're welcome better, or
you're welcome. I think you're
welcome is good. It's just
short, All right, everybody,
it's time once again for that
favorite sake, with John's Tip
of the day and
Unknown: sometimes.
Adam Curry: And before you start
with your tip of the day, I did
want to mention that we now have
a website Tip of the day.net
where all of John's tips of the
day are located. Also no agenda.
Fun.com Let me just check, check
if that is yes, no agenda.
Fun.com which has a lot of fun
stuff about the show, is now
also including the tip of the
day. So noadgendafund.com, and
Tip of the day.net John. Let's
add another entry. Okay, so
John C Dvorak: we have people
who use Twitter a lot every
once. Now it's becoming video
centric, yeah, and so there is a
product, and it's, it's an
online product called Twitter,
vid.com, and as I've looked at
these different Twitter video
downloaders, this down. You put
the URL of the of the of the
post that's got the video right
into this thing. It downloads it
in high def. It usually gives
you two or three options of how
you want to download. You
download saves it as an mp three
that you can now post on
LinkedIn, or you can send it as
email attachments. It's it's, I
It's great for these videos that
you've watched. And you go, Oh,
this isn't going to be up here
long. You download it using
Twitter, vid.com
Adam Curry: uh, MP four, I
presume not an mp three, I
John C Dvorak: am, sorry. MP
four, exactly.
Adam Curry: You're right. So
then what? What can you do with
that? You can then upload it to
other places, yeah, you
John C Dvorak: can upload it to,
I said, LinkedIn, or you could
use it in an email attachment.
Yep, you can do all kinds of
stuff with this. Or you can
repost it on Twitter as though
you discovered it,
Adam Curry: or create some
entropy and upload it to
notebook. Lm, what
John C Dvorak: could possibly go
wrong?
Adam Curry: Are you looking for
good advice? Perhaps something
practical, or something you
really need try the new agenda.
Tip of the day, professional
quality tips from the best
podcast in the universe. That's
right tip of the day every
single end of show right here,
before we go to our end of show
mixes, which today includes, let
me see we have Jesse coy Nelson,
we've got David kecta and. And
we have Billy Bones checking in.
Does it get any better than
that? I don't think so. And as
promoted earlier, coming up
next, right after we disconnect
from the stream, we have a live
value for value Battle of the
Bands. Boost them directly. It
is the satellite skirmish.
Autumn rust that's gonna be
awesome. I'm sure I said in my
best Oprah voice, whew. And of
course, we will be back on
Thursday to bring you more of
your media deconstruction, to
show you that it's all just a
big show. Don't worry about it.
Go touch the grass. Rub your
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Hill Country, Fredericksburg,
Texas, in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where, once
again, the fog is rolling in as
usual. I'm John C Dvorak.
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Newfoza, hooey, hooey and such.
Unknown: He seems to make a
distinction between mail in
ballot and absentee ballot, but
there's no such distinction.
They're the same thing.
Did the dead get balanced?
Take a look at 1000s of
pieces of mail that never made
it to Portland, homes and
businesses. Police tell us a
postal worker was the one
stealing that's
very frightening to think that I
can't mail something here and
it's going to be okay.
Osborne blames it on his meth
addiction, contributed to his
inability to deliver the mail.
Put your mask on, line up and
vote like we always do, how
many postal workers are caught
and what's being done to prevent
theft at your
post office?
So Jamie Lee Curtis believes
that Donald Trump is attempting
to steal the election, and I
assume the mail in ballots by
hiring tow truck drivers to haul
away mailmans that she believes
are full of Democrat ballots
tampering with the Postal
Service. He is, in effect,
putting his knee on the neck of
American democracy, Donald
Trump is stealing the election,
but you may face
a felony charge if you attempt
to vote twice, that is by mail
and also
in person. But they
raid the mailboxes. They can
even print ballots. They get the
same paper, the same machine,
nothing special. Amazon is going
to pay for the post office.
Delivery, deliveries,
deliveries. Liberated.
I And Tim Ross are both gun
owners. We
will not take anybody's guns
away.
We also need to have reasonable
gun safety laws.
I believe that we need an
assault weapons ban.
Bag: We need universal
background checks.
Unknown: We need red flag laws.
Outside the
house. We want to ban assault
weapons, and they
want to ban Fox
events, and they want to ban
books
extremists attack our
freedom to live safe from gun
violence.
I want to emphasize, we are over
two months, of course, since
Butler, do you know that the
Secret Service still has not
given congressional
investigators the documented
evidence we have been asking for
for two months, two months since
Trump was shot in the face. Now
he has been shot at her nearly
so again, and still, Secret
Service is stonewalling right
down to this hour. I mean, what
is going on here? They need to
level with us. Let's try this
one. Mike check.
Adam Curry: Mike check. Mike
check, we have a saying in the
Netherlands. You accuse others
that of what you are guilty of.
Unknown: Yeah. Mike check, but
Adam Curry: you said clean
yourself. Would you go through
the health
Unknown: we have a saying in the
Netherlands,
Adam Curry: or Mic check. Mic
check,
Unknown: but you said, Ben
yourself. You
Adam Curry: accuse others that
you are guilty of. Boom. Yeah,
mike check. Mike check. Watches
Unknown: like you, mains, elf,
magical,
John C Dvorak: legless grammar,
nailed it.
Unknown: Dot org slash n A
You're welcome. You.