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John C Dvorak: Dogs and cats
will watch TV. Adam curry.
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Unknown: John C Dvorak, Sunday,
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Adam Curry: October 6, 2024 this
is your award winning Kim on
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episode 1701.
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minutes and broadcasting live
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country here in FEMA Region,
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everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's too
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damned hot. I'm John C Dvorak
buzzkill,
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Adam Curry: oh yeah, yeah, I
figured you'd be you'd be mad
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about that. You have a bad
attitude today about things you
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got. You're mad because it's too
hot and you have no air
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conditioning. Was 95 yesterday.
That's what I mean. It's too hot
0:47
for San Francisco. Too hot. It's
too hot. Listen to that.
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the Starship Enterprise. Have
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you ever heard this version of
what this Theremin lady? It's a
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live habit. It's a live
orchestra with a there man. I
1:13
love it. It's fantastic.
1:15
John C Dvorak: I we used to talk
about her. I can't remember her
1:18
name. She's a famous Theremin
artist,
1:20
Adam Curry: katika. Katika
Eleni, I think, I think she's
1:24
Eastern Bloc. Anyway, John, 1701
episodes, that's not bad.
1:30
John C Dvorak: 1701 Yeah, we
could have done a promotion, but
1:33
we'd get sued by Paramount.
Yeah,
1:34
Adam Curry: it's interesting you
put that in the newsletter,
1:36
because I hadn't even thought
about it until like, you know,
1:39
that's probably a good point if
you use what one little bit of
1:42
Star Trek imagery do, they come
after you right away. Oh,
1:46
John C Dvorak: yeah. Then they
do it, because that's what they
1:48
do. And you, if you're gonna do
it, you have to do it all the
1:51
time, so they do it with
everybody.
1:52
Adam Curry: So we should tell
the artists up front, don't do
1:55
any Star Trek.
1:57
John C Dvorak: We will run
anything that's got, even the
1:59
Star Trek type logo.
2:00
Adam Curry: You can't even do
that for, for like, parodies
2:03
sake,
2:04
John C Dvorak: there's not a
parody Well, depending
2:06
parodying,
2:06
Adam Curry: it depends on what
the image looks like. I think
2:10
that's very dependent upon the
image.
2:15
John C Dvorak: And they, I think
they go after parodies too.
2:17
Well, maybe not so much. That's
beside the point. We usually
2:20
don't use parodies necessarily
in our art. No, well,
2:24
Adam Curry: we use a lot of
product parodies. I'm not I'm
2:27
not arguing the
2:28
John C Dvorak: fact mockery is
mock difference. Oh, okay,
2:31
Adam Curry: well, all right,
mockery, that's good, man. I
2:36
think we should just kick it off
with some ABC special live
2:40
coverage, very demure, very
mindful.
2:49
Unknown: Helene has now become
the deadliest mainland hurricane
2:52
since Katrina back in 2005
almost 20 years ago, the storm's
2:56
death toll is now at least 227
across several states, but many
3:01
people are still unaccounted
for, with their families
3:04
desperate for answers, and the
search for them is complicated.
3:08
The full extent of the damage is
still coming into focus, as
3:11
communities there struggle to
get basic supplies, and hundreds
3:15
of 1000s of people still remain
without power. This morning, our
3:19
Gio Benitez is leading our
special coverage, southeast
3:22
strong, and joins us now live
from Marshall, North Carolina.
3:25
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is the
new thing, southeast strong. You
3:28
see, you've got to say southeast
strong. Misreport everything but
3:33
southeast strong.
3:34
John C Dvorak: I think
misreporting is the key to this.
3:37
Yes, it seems from every side of
the spectrum, yes. And I looked,
3:42
there was one that came up. I
think it was last night. This
3:45
woman comes on talking about
her, her elderly uncle and aunt
3:52
who aren't elderly at all, and
they wouldn't let it rescue
3:55
because the helicopter pilot was
told to stand down by the fire
3:58
chief, yeah, and if I'm gonna
arrest you, the fire chief said,
4:02
the fire chief's not a
policeman. But okay, and it was
4:06
like a three minute chopper ride
from the rescue point, which was
4:11
the side of a hill, to the town
where the fire chief told him to
4:14
stand down. Well, I don't
understand what? And he wouldn't
4:18
go back and pick this one guy
up. He picked went back and
4:20
picked up his son, which he
dropped off, but then I don't
4:23
know, it was only three minutes
away. Why did he just fly him
4:26
someplace else where this fire
chief wasn't standing around
4:29
telling you not to do it? Well,
I mean, these reports are just
4:33
sketchy. Well,
4:34
Adam Curry: that one I can, I
can explain, because they
4:39
between picking up the woman and
leaving his son and the husband
4:44
behind, they put a TFR in place,
temporary flight restriction,
4:48
and the only way to get there
through that valley or that
4:51
Gully, or whatever it was, was
right through what the Feds had
4:55
put up as a TFR. It doesn't mean
that the fire chief can arrest
4:59
anybody. Yeah, but I mean that,
yeah, there was, I mean there
5:03
was, there's also, this is so
politicized, It's sickening. And
5:08
I loved everybody, like Lindsey
Graham's a dick. Lindsey Graham
5:12
doesn't care. Lindsey Graham is
a horrible person. And they play
5:16
Unknown: this clip. You know,
I've been going all over
5:18
South Carolina, like most people
hadn't slept much, but look
5:21
what's going on in Israel. Our
friends in Israel, surrounded by
5:23
people
5:24
Adam Curry: that wanted doesn't
care about anybody. There was,
5:28
that's a good one. There was
six, six minutes of him and
5:31
Hannity talking about and and
even Graham was going off on his
5:36
print,
5:36
John C Dvorak: by the way, his
pronunciation of Israel, Israel
5:39
is something to behold Israel. I
can't even do it,
5:43
Adam Curry: so I, you know, I'm
the last person to kind of
5:45
defend Lindsey Graham, but in
this case, that's for sure, that
5:48
it was really it was so like
Lindsey Graham didn't care about
5:52
people. He was talking about it
for six minutes and calling
5:57
everybody out. But I went back,
actually did a little bit of
5:59
historical work, and was
checking some stuff. And, you
6:03
know, there's a governor race
going on in in North Carolina,
6:10
and the lieutenant governor is
running against the governor, as
6:13
far as I understand, that Mark
Robinson, he's the black, the
6:16
big black guy that's always
talking about, you know, hell,
6:19
fire and damnation, very, very
controversial guy, and it seems
6:24
like the kind of trying to pin
all of this stuff or the the the
6:29
slow federal response on
6:34
Unknown: on him. Republican
Lieutenant Governor Mark
6:36
Robinson says, even though he
missed a vote to prove the
6:38
state's emergency declaration
before Helene, the vote didn't
6:41
matter. Yeah, the lieutenant
6:42
governor was the only elected
official not to weigh in on
6:45
Governor Roy Cooper's request
ahead of the storm devastating
6:48
North Carolina Capitol reporter
Michael Hyland is joining us now
6:51
with this story, and Michael the
Lieutenant Governor pointed the
6:53
finger back at the governor. He
6:56
talked about all this today as
he was getting ready to take
6:58
more supplies out to the western
part of the state, which he's
7:00
been working on coordinating
with local leaders. In fact,
7:03
he's been working with the
Franklin County Sheriff's Office
7:05
over the last several days,
going back and forth from here
7:07
to western North Carolina,
helping to bring things like
7:10
food and water and coordinating
with local leaders with rescue
7:13
missions. He's posted on social
media about meeting with people
7:16
impacted, and said Governor Roy
Cooper has not done enough to
7:19
respond to the devastation.
Records show, last week, as the
7:22
storm was approaching, the
governor reached out to Robinson
7:25
and the other eight members of
the Council of State, which is a
7:27
group of statewide elected
officials, to ask for their vote
7:29
in support of declaring a state
of emergency. Robinson was the
7:32
only member not to vote. This
happened to several members of
7:35
his staff were resigning from
their jobs last week. Here's
7:38
what he said when asked why he
missed the vote. I don't
7:40
even need to cover why, because
here's the bottom line, my vote
7:44
in that it would that vote was
going to pass with or without my
7:47
vote. So it was absolutely
inconsequential that you know me
7:51
voting. It didn't matter.
7:52
Seems to me, Lieutenant Governor
had one job prior to this
7:55
disaster, and vote so that we
could get disaster relief. And
8:00
the one thing he could have done
he didn't do, a
8:04
spokesman for Governor Cooper
accused Robinson of engaging in
8:07
online disinformation campaign
about the storm response that he
8:11
says causes confusion in areas
with limited communications and
8:14
potentially puts lives at risk.
Robinson also criticized Cooper
8:18
for being in New York last week
on Wednesday as the storm was
8:21
approaching, Cooper's office
says he was back in North
8:24
Carolina Wednesday afternoon and
coordinating the state's
8:27
response ahead of time.
8:28
Adam Curry: It's it's so Oh,
it's his fault. Well, if you got
8:33
nine people and eight vote, then
it's okay, but there's so much
8:37
this.
8:38
John C Dvorak: Don't overlook
Robinson's being smeared last
8:42
week or the week before. That's
the whole point. Being on the
8:44
black pervs for teens, website
team years ago, and a black Nazi
8:50
thing and that whole thing. I
mean, this guy, it was so bad
8:54
that even Trump couldn't bring
himself to invite him to one of
8:57
the North Carolina rallies. So
the guys, they've gone after
9:01
this. He's a hot potato.
9:03
Unknown: He's a hot hot potato.
Hot potato.
9:06
John C Dvorak: He can still win.
9:08
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah,
but, but, you know, people don't
9:11
really understand how everything
works in with emergency
9:15
management. And I'm pretty sure
that South South Carolina and
9:21
North Carolina, they, you know,
there were emergency workers, of
9:24
course, what everyone saw a lot
of, particularly on on social
9:28
media, was the redneck, redneck
army.
9:34
Unknown: It's the sound of
solace. Help is on the way. We
9:37
just kind of organized a private
helicopter army to go in and
9:41
survey the damage and get
extract people and take supplies
9:44
in and just create landing zones
for everybody to have supply
9:47
routes in and out. Matt McSwain
is a pilot from Mount Holly, and
9:51
says he received a call from
Operation AirDrop, an
9:54
organization now working to
shore up relief and rescue
9:58
efforts for folks trapped in
North. Carolina's High Country.
10:01
We've had 37 helicopters today,
volunteers. We've had people
10:05
from Texas to Maine all the way
across the East Coast just show
10:08
up and like, how do we help? For
folks
10:10
who remember Katrina,
10:12
there's like, the Cajun Navy.
10:13
I feel very much like this is
Cajun navy. Yeah, this is
10:17
redneck navy. Redneck Marine. So
redneck Marines, McSwain took us
10:22
back to the War Room, where we
were allowed to take photos but
10:25
not share any audio from inside,
there's a station where they
10:29
gather calls for help, often
from social media posts, then
10:33
triage the severity of the need
and what supplies should go on
10:37
the flight, and then attempt to
find that person in distress.
10:41
One of the biggest hurdles,
McSwain says is not having spots
10:45
to land. When we go to those GPS
coordinates, we may not be able
10:48
to land there. It might be a
mile, two miles on one side of
10:51
the other, just because we can't
get to that distress call
10:54
Tuesday. He says they plan to
help with another major concern,
10:57
shuttling in communication
devices for first responders.
11:01
There's actual whole communities
that are completely cut off from
11:04
the grid. We tried to establish
communications with the local,
11:07
sheriff's department, the fire
department. There is no
11:10
communications.
11:11
Adam Curry: So you know what I'm
seeing? I don't know about you,
11:13
but I just see all of this the
government, you know best. No
11:17
good. They're late. Everything's
horrible. They're doing this on
11:21
purpose. If it was, if it was a
blue state, they'd be there in
11:25
minutes, you know, on and on and
on and on and and we, of course,
11:29
we're still dealing with the,
oh, it's, it's a, it's for the
11:33
courts, it's for the lithium
this.
11:35
John C Dvorak: And let's, well,
you can drop that part of it.
11:37
But the blue state thing, it is
a blue state. It's got a it's
11:41
got a Democrat governor. A lot
of these people are black, yeah,
11:44
Asheville, North Carolina, one
of the centers is, is a lesbian
11:49
stronghold of the South. It's
always referred to locally as
11:54
she Ville. You take the A out of
the name, it's not Asheville,
11:58
she Ville. And so this is bull
crap. Well, besides
12:02
Adam Curry: that, I like, is it
hanlon's razor? I think it is
12:09
hanlon's razor. Never attribute
to malice, that which is
12:13
adequately explained by
incompetence.
12:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's and
also it doesn't help that the
12:21
situation coming out of the
White House, from FEMA and from
12:25
Majorca, who said we're out of
money, and then the denial that
12:29
we're out of money, which I have
two clips from John Pierre, this
12:32
has been floating around. This
is what she said in a press
12:37
conferences kJP this week,
categorically,
12:42
Unknown: no. Biden did not take
FEMA relief money to use, to use
12:47
on migrants,
12:49
John C Dvorak: and then here she
is in 2022.
12:51
Unknown: FEMA Regional
Administrators have been meeting
12:54
with city officials on site to
coordinate, to coordinate,
12:57
available federal support from
FEMA and other federal agencies.
13:02
Funding is also available
through FEMA emergency food and
13:05
shelter program to eligible
local governments and not for
13:09
non for profit organizations
upon request to support
13:12
humanitarian relief for
migrants.
13:14
Adam Curry: Well, exactly. And
this is kind of my point, our
13:18
government is, and that's all
governments, our government
13:22
body, which people, somehow, in
my lifetime, have come to like,
13:25
oh, something's wrong. The
cavalry's coming. Yeah, the
13:28
Redneck Marine Corps is coming.
Your neighbors are coming.
13:32
People who, regardless of your
who you are, your background or
13:36
your gender, sexuality, your
religion, race, doesn't matter,
13:39
your neighbors were coming. But
stop waiting for the government,
13:42
because our government, that's
what our government is, an
13:46
administrative state filled with
pencil pushes and PowerPoints
13:50
seriously. And
13:52
John C Dvorak: in 89 it was
pointed out, like around here in
13:54
the Bay Area where he had the 89
Loma Prieta earthquake and the
13:59
freeway collapsed. It was just
all locals going out and
14:03
rescuing people. There was you
didn't there was no time to wait
14:06
the government. Screw the
government. You got to go out
14:08
and do what you do. And there's
all kinds of local heroes that
14:11
pull people out of cars, under a
crush, to overpass and all the
14:15
rest. And it was all just people
doing what you could do to help
14:18
your neighbor.
14:19
Adam Curry: But really, we need
to just come to grips with the
14:21
fact that all government,
especially state and federal
14:25
emergency, are completely
incompetent. They have forgotten
14:28
and forsaken their their
mission. You know, media, of
14:33
course, can't even cover this
because, oh, don't let anybody
14:36
catch on, specifically North
Carolina, I remember when it
14:39
came to gender neutral
bathrooms. We had a lot to say,
14:44
lot going on. That was during
Obama,
14:48
John C Dvorak: and it was mostly
in North Carolina, yes,
14:50
Adam Curry: but when the rubber
really meets the road, they have
14:52
no clue on how to operate. And
you know, people are even
14:56
saying, you know, do you really
want FEMA? Because here's.
15:00
Corrupt and nasty. The system
is, you know, people like yo,
15:04
they're stopping aid. They're
not letting us get through no
15:06
because if you the minute FEMA
comes into your state, they have
15:13
their approved, their approved
suppliers, you know, which may
15:18
be Walmart or whoever, I don't
know, they have their approved,
15:21
approved suppliers, and you are
they, they cannot, by agreement,
15:25
let any other supplies come in,
because it's, it's like, oh,
15:29
money grab. Just like where the
money originally went to, for,
15:34
you know, for asylum seekers,
migrants, the newcomers that you
15:39
know, that didn't even go to the
government. Just went straight
15:42
to nonprofits, the nonprofits
where the executive director
15:46
makes seven, $800,000 a year.
That's your problem. You've got
15:51
to they've got to stop thinking
that the government is going to
15:55
do anything for you. And do you
really want them in? Here's an
15:57
example of why you might not
want them in. Are they
16:00
Unknown: still not there
anywhere. What are
16:02
Adam Curry: you seeing from FEMA
in the federal and the federal
16:04
response, if any? I
16:05
Unknown: mean, they're present.
They're in the way. They are
16:08
directly interrupting our
ability to conduct missions and
16:11
operations. And I'm not going to
disparage anybody, because we
16:14
are trying to work with in
partner relationships, both
16:18
government and non government
entities within state and
16:20
federal and county, you know,
we, I went to put a couple of
16:24
people into a hotel last night,
and I they have a security guard
16:27
at the hotel. He said, Oh, we're
so sorry. The entire hotel has
16:30
been booked for federal
employees. And it's like, no, I
16:34
have people that would just pull
it out of a mountain that are
16:37
living out in the hills, and
there's not a place for me to
16:39
put them, because we have
federal employees that are
16:42
staying the hotel. I slept in
this white car last night. I
16:44
smell like foot and death right
now, as does every single person
16:48
our team. Not a single one of us
slept. We got done maybe at
16:50
three o'clock. The moment the
sun was up. We could fly
16:53
helicopters again. We were back
in the air, and we have not
16:55
stopped. And I was like, on the
fence about trying to get on
16:58
this program or not. I want
people to understand how
17:00
incredible this organization is,
save our allies and all the work
17:04
that all of these volunteers are
doing. But people, this is
17:08
biblical level devastation.
Yeah, this is apocalyptic. The
17:11
things that we see out there,
17:12
Adam Curry: yeah, just you can't
count on you stop counting on
17:15
your government. Then that's
what that's very tiring to see
17:18
everybody running around like,
oh, and all political, no good.
17:24
I mean, even the the kJP clips,
I mean, it's all being
17:28
politicized. Well, there's 1000s
of dead people. It's just, it's,
17:33
it's the good side of who we are
as Americans and the bad side.
17:37
And by the way, this is not a
once in a once, ever occurrence.
17:42
You know, I looked into this is
the Tennessee Valley. We have
17:45
the Tennessee Valley Authority,
which was brought in initially
17:49
to also work with, you know,
create dams and make sure that
17:55
there was not too much flooding.
You know, the big one was 1916
18:01
when this happened, this exact
same scenario happened, and the
18:06
city of Asheville was gone. I
think the water level is only a
18:11
few feet below what it was now.
This was quite incredible, the
18:14
amount of water. And then around
19, I think 1971 there was, yes,
18:23
there was a project to create a
lake which was going to be
18:30
called, hmm, I'm trying to think
what it was going to be called.
18:35
The French Broad River valleys.
They wanted to make a lake. The
18:40
Tennessee Valley Authority
wanted to, which would probably
18:43
have stopped this from happening
in Asheville. But back then,
18:47
there was this huge backlash,
because there were 60 families
18:51
who were there and they didn't
want, you know, to become part
18:54
of the lake. Well, okay, so you
all made a decision, and here
18:57
you go. That said these
hurricanes coming out of the
19:03
Gulf, particularly the one now
supposedly headed towards
19:07
Florida. Tina lived in Florida
for over 15 years. She said she
19:12
cannot remember a time when a
hurricane was about to hit all
19:16
of Florida that came out of the
Gulf. Can you,
19:23
John C Dvorak: I don't keep
track of that sort of thing. I
19:27
it doesn't seem like it would be
that unusual, Yeah,
19:29
Adam Curry: apparently it is. It
is because you have this
19:33
hurricane Katrina came out of
the Gulf, yeah, but that didn't
19:37
hit Florida. Well, Florida got
affected, yeah? Not, not like
19:40
this.
19:41
John C Dvorak: And there was
that one just a couple of years
19:42
ago that that hurricane they
went through Tampa,
19:45
Adam Curry: which one was that
it
19:48
John C Dvorak: was the one that
hit that one town really bad,
19:50
and they made a big fuss about
it. And Tampa was hit pretty
19:53
hard, and that came out of the
Gulf were the fish
19:55
Adam Curry: flopping in the
street. They're always, always,
19:58
yeah. Yeah. Well, I haven't
heard much climate change yet,
20:02
although I'm sure it's coming,
and we're all crazy. Climate
20:06
change is doing this. Somebody
brought
20:08
John C Dvorak: up the fact that
a lot of this moisture may have
20:09
been caused by a underwater
volcano, some, some like a year
20:15
22 I think, and put a bunch of
moisture in the air that had to
20:18
come out eventually. Well,
20:20
Adam Curry: you know, there's
plenty of government projects
20:22
that go way back that that have
tried to steer hurricanes. I
20:27
think that it was in like 1963
or something, when was, I was
20:32
Eisenhower president? No, that
was Kennedy. No,
20:35
John C Dvorak: Kennedy must
20:38
Adam Curry: have been earlier
and and so they would drop
20:42
silver iodine into the into the
hurricane iodide. They would
20:47
drop that into the hurricane and
then they could steer it. But it
20:51
also, of course, created an
enormous amount of water, which
20:57
is what we saw here.
20:58
John C Dvorak: So you know, how
would that mechanism work,
21:00
steering it with silver.
21:01
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
what, what? What the report was
21:06
that somehow, by I
21:07
John C Dvorak: remembered the
time, and say probably the 60s
21:10
or 70s, where they said, Well,
if it's really bad, we can drop
21:13
a nuke on this thing and knock
it out.
21:15
Adam Curry: How can we ever?
I've heard it on this show from
21:18
you. I've never, I don't think
they ever. They should try it.
21:21
Man, come on, give it a shot. Of
course, the real issue at hand
21:25
is this,
21:26
Unknown: as western North
Carolina recovers from
21:28
devastating flood damage
following Hurricane Helene,
21:31
election officials are
scrambling to prepare for early
21:34
voting. Yeah, North Carolina is,
of course, a key swing state
21:37
that could very well decide next
month's presidential election.
21:41
Steve Harrison from member
station WFA in Charlotte, has
21:44
been covering this and joins us
now. Hey, Steve, Hey, Scott.
21:47
Early voting begins in North
Carolina on october 17, a little
21:51
more than two weeks from today.
Do state elections officials
21:54
think they'll be ready? Yeah. I
mean, they're confident it will
21:57
begin on time in all counties,
but they can't really say what
22:00
voting will look like. As of
this morning, there's still 10
22:04
county elections board offices
that haven't reopened. That
22:07
means they can't process new
registrations, they can't send
22:10
out or receive mail ballots. I
mean, you have to imagine that
22:14
that voting sites were just were
just overwhelmed by the
22:17
flooding. How bad is the damage?
Are they unusable? Yes. Karen
22:21
Brinson Bell, the executive
director of the state board of
22:23
elections, said some of those
voting sites may be impossible
22:26
to reach for now, at least
because of mudslides and downed
22:29
trees and in some cases, roads
may be completely washed away.
22:33
Brinson Bell said the state has
had experience running elections
22:37
after hurricanes, after
Hurricane Dorian hit North
22:39
Carolina in 2019 she said the
board used a tent and trailers
22:43
for voting in Hyde County, which
is on the coast. And that may
22:47
happen again. The state hopes to
know by the end of this week
22:49
what voting sites can be used
and which ones can't.
22:52
Adam Curry: We'll have to see
how that affects this important
22:55
swing state.
22:59
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
serious eclipse on voting. If
23:02
you're going to talk about
voting, early voting in
23:04
particular, yeah,
23:05
Adam Curry: I would just say I
think it's great what the
23:09
citizens of North Carolina have
done. And, of course, also in
23:12
Florida, grousing. But the
grousing, you know, I had boots
23:17
on the ground, RVG, truth on the
X I know, is ombre. And this
23:22
guy, he goes everywhere. He's,
you know, he was at the border
23:27
for months, and then always he
just drives up and he's and then
23:30
he's in North Carolina, and he
says, you know, the people are
23:34
actually getting it together.
And if anything, the social all
23:39
the social media stuff, all of
it. He says, sucks. It sucks for
23:43
the people there. Well,
23:44
John C Dvorak: I would say, also
I think the media coverage sucks
23:46
too.
23:47
Adam Curry: It's completely, I
mean, I was texting which
23:51
John C Dvorak: was trying to
dissensational as usual. Gee,
23:54
I'm shocked, shocked that
they're sensationalizing the
23:58
news. What's
23:59
Adam Curry: interesting, though,
is that in Europe, no one even
24:02
knows this is happening. It's
almost not covered, like, Yeah,
24:07
whatever this. We've seen
24:08
John C Dvorak: some reports, but
it's covered like, straight,
24:11
like, straight news, just a
mention, yeah. You know, there's
24:15
Adam Curry: much more important
things, you know, like Iran and
24:19
Ukraine and,
24:20
John C Dvorak: oh, money, money.
Well, that everyone
24:24
Adam Curry: has a universally,
people have an issue with all
24:27
the money being spent on other
countries. I think that that's
24:30
now almost a bipartisan issue or
nonpartisan.
24:37
John C Dvorak: Let's play these
clips. This is early voting.
24:39
This all from NPR. It's a long
report. I got through, I think
24:42
four clips here. They're not
long, but this is about early
24:46
voting, and there's a bunch of
subtle propaganda in here, as
24:50
usual as you would expect from
NPR,
24:54
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR. You. Or
25:00
PBS, Election
25:01
Day is a month away, and early
voting is already happening.
25:05
More than a million votes have
already been cast, with more
25:08
coming every day. Miles parks is
our voting correspondent. He
25:11
covers the topic 365 days a
year. What a
25:15
Adam Curry: voting correspondent
who has Yeah,
25:16
John C Dvorak: and did you hear
what he does? He covers the
25:19
topic 300 every day, every
25:22
Unknown: day of the year, every
year, but right now is the
25:25
moment when all of the
storylines he's following rise
25:28
to the top of everyone else's
minds as well. That is
25:31
especially true given how much
the attempt to overturn the
25:34
2020, presidential election
results hangs over everything in
25:38
this contest. So give it all
that we brought miles on to talk
25:42
to us about what he is focusing
on. Hey miles, Hey Scott.
25:46
Hey Scott. Hey miles,
25:47
Hey Scott.
25:48
Let's start with the lawsuits,
because many are already being
25:52
filed. What do we need to know?
Yeah,
25:53
so there's kind of two major
buckets. I think voters can kind
25:56
of monitor lawsuits over the
next couple of weeks. One is
25:58
about how people actually be
casting ballots. The two big
26:01
kind of things we're watching
that still have yet to be
26:04
determined. One is in
Pennsylvania, big battleground
26:06
state, as you know, well,
there's a big legal battle
26:09
brewing over when people turn in
a mail ballot and there's some
26:12
sort of mistake on it, whether
that's they didn't put in the
26:14
right envelope or put the wrong
date on it, whether those
26:16
ballots should count.
Republicans argue they should
26:18
not. Democrats argue they should
in Georgia, we're monitoring
26:22
lawsuits related to the
administration the actual
26:24
counting of ballots. Listeners
are probably familiar. The
26:27
Georgia elections board has
passed a number of new rules in
26:30
recent weeks, and there's a
bunch of litigation deciding
26:33
whether those new rules should
stand.
26:34
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is all
pro Trump changes, if I recall
26:37
correctly. So that, of course,
26:39
John C Dvorak: no, no.
26:41
Adam Curry: I thought the
26:41
John C Dvorak: Georgia thing is,
what's pro Trump about Georgia?
26:45
And they never say this. They
never tell you any of this. They
26:47
just said, well, blah, blah,
blah.
26:49
Unknown: They don't mention what
it is.
26:51
John C Dvorak: They never say
what it is. But the Georgia
26:54
thing is, they're going to hand
count all the ballots to make
26:56
sure that the machine count
matches, right? That would be
26:59
anything pro Trump
27:02
Adam Curry: because that was the
because Republicans hate the the
27:05
machines,
27:07
John C Dvorak: yeah, let's start
D bold.
27:11
Adam Curry: Well, no, yeah.
Okay,
27:13
John C Dvorak: so the other,
which is the doesn't do them
27:15
anymore. Of course, those are
the George Bush machines. The
27:20
other the other thing about the
ballot being in the wrong
27:23
envelope. What have you ever
mailed in and it comes with an
27:27
envelope? Wow, that just doesn't
make any sense. That would be
27:30
what you stuff into some rando
envelope. I don't know. You
27:33
know. Okay,
27:34
Adam Curry: hold on before you
continue just about this
27:37
specifically, Tina went to see
that the new D'souza movie,
27:42
which is vindicating Trump.
Yeah, Dinesh D'Souza, where
27:45
John C Dvorak: do you go see a
movie like that? It's in the
27:47
Adam Curry: theater. She, she
and her and her friend went,
27:49
actually in the theater. She and
her friend were the only two,
27:54
John C Dvorak: well, in theater.
Granted, it
27:56
Adam Curry: was 1130 in the
morning, but yeah, still
27:59
vindicating Trump. And she said,
she said, Of course, it's a
28:03
complete, you know, it's all pro
Trump, pro Trump. But what de
28:08
Souza apparently shows there is
how you can for like 35 bucks,
28:12
you can buy the voter roll, and
then you can just print all the
28:15
ballots you want. You know,
it's, it's very our voting
28:21
system is very simplistic. It
seems rather easy to Jack around
28:26
with, and if you're first before
you know before the actual
28:30
person gets to the ballot, and
it's like, hey, wait a minute,
28:33
you already voted, then that's
that's just one of the many ways
28:37
to cheat. It's no one trusts
this anymore.
28:41
John C Dvorak: It's because it's
poorly operated. No kidding,
28:44
it's been taken. Is Everyone's
been so lax about assuming it's
28:49
fine that they just let it slide
it. This is ridiculous. Well,
28:52
remember,
28:52
Adam Curry: the term is no
widespread fraud. Oh,
28:56
John C Dvorak: that's coming in
these clips. Okay, okay, so
29:00
Unknown: that's bucket one, the
process one, itself. What about
29:03
the second? The second
29:04
is, we've seen a bunch of
lawsuits. This happened in 2020,
29:07
as well. The Republicans have
been filing a number of lawsuits
29:10
that legal experts basically say
have no shot at succeeding, but
29:13
just serve to kind of inject
doubts about the process. These
29:17
are generally been lawsuits
focusing on the idea of non
29:20
citizens voting in American
elections. This is not an issue
29:23
that there is evidence has ever
happened in anything but
29:25
microscopic numbers. But in a
number of states, we've seen
29:29
lawsuits from Republicans
alleging that it is happening or
29:32
could happen.
29:33
Let's talk more about that,
because this is something you've
29:36
reported on a lot. This
narrative of non citizens
29:39
casting
29:39
ballots, there's been a pivot
from whether it's Donald Trump,
29:43
Elon Musk, a number of prominent
figures on the far right, to
29:47
start talking over the last few
months about non citizens voting
29:49
in this election. And it seems
to be working. We had a poll out
29:52
from NPR, PBS, news, Marist
College, out this week that
29:56
found that nine in 10
Republicans are concerned that
29:59
non citizens. Will vote in this
elections process, which you can
30:02
kind of see down the road, how
this could make it an effective
30:05
narrative should trump lose,
that he could focus on to try to
30:08
overturn this election.
30:10
Adam Curry: Here we go again.
There's, there's some truth to
30:14
that. You know, I have a 38
second clip. You can I insert
30:19
that? Yeah, I think so. This is
from Arizona.
30:22
Unknown: This new data set, as
they're calling it, brings the
30:25
total number of people impacted
to 218,000 instead of the 98,000
30:30
we first reported. These people
were mistakenly marked as having
30:33
provided documentary proof of
citizenship, and Arizona voter
30:38
registration database now has
correctly flagged the impacted
30:42
individuals. Election officials
say they will contact the
30:45
affected Arizonans with
information regarding their
30:48
status after the general
election. That means for now,
30:51
the Arizona Supreme Court's
ruling is going to stay. That
30:55
impacted voters, that includes
all of them, will still be able
30:58
to vote. You get
30:59
Adam Curry: to vote, no problem.
They go back later. Is this
31:03
going to be the big dispute?
Well, it was 218,000 we got to
31:06
call every single one of them
asked for the ID. Man, yeah, and
31:11
we still can't put someone on
the moon. What good are we? I'm
31:16
very down on all this,
31:20
John C Dvorak: the and the idea
that, I mean the way they
31:25
downplay the possibility of
some, I mean in Cal, like here,
31:29
I've said it before, I go to
vote, I go in person. I have
31:32
voted by mail to I do both. But
I went person, you
31:37
Adam Curry: vote twice. You vote
twice.
31:39
John C Dvorak: I could, you say,
she
31:40
Adam Curry: said, I do both. So
I'm just, I could okay,
31:44
John C Dvorak: but I'd only do
one, and California, it doesn't
31:49
make any difference. So I wanted
to go in to use the machines so
31:55
I could see what was going on
with the machines. Yeah, you
31:57
talked about this. Yes, I did.
Made a long talk about it, and
32:01
it just but I noticed they never
asked for ID. Never, never, have
32:05
ever asked for ID. It's not as
though they're asking for ID.
32:08
And now it's illegal in
California to ask for ID,
32:11
although you have to, you have
to ask for ID for liquor and all
32:15
the rest of it. But no, no
voting. Forget it. No, it's
32:17
Adam Curry: not it's not that
important. It's just not that
32:19
important. It's harder to get
out of jury duty, which is the
32:22
other side of voting, as far as
I'm concerned. Like, oh man, I
32:26
want to get out of your jury
duty. Don't need an ID to vote.
32:31
John C Dvorak: So here we go
three.
32:32
Unknown: Let's talk about
another impact over the ongoing
32:35
rhetoric around the 2020,
election, the ongoing claims
32:38
that Trump won the election,
which, again, he did not. He
32:40
lost the election, but we have
seen this real uptick in
32:44
harassment and threats to local
election
32:47
officials. I
32:48
Adam Curry: have not actually
seen any of this. Is there an
32:50
actual report of someone being
threatened?
32:55
John C Dvorak: There have been
reports in it stems from the
32:58
2020 election and the Georgia
people, all right, who were who
33:02
were threatened after the fact,
and I don't know that it's
33:05
happening, but
33:05
Adam Curry: I haven't seen any
reports of someone saying that
33:08
guy threatened me. You know,
this is just, this is rhetoric
33:12
here. This is rhetoric,
33:14
Unknown: right? And a lot of
time talking to what are you
33:17
hearing from them in terms of
the threats coming in and how
33:20
they're preparing for a really
tense few weeks.
33:24
There's a lot of nervousness.
And when I talk to election
33:27
officials the last couple weeks,
I think where's the interview
33:30
the reason is going back to this
poll I mentioned a second ago.
33:34
The poll found that a majority
of Americans right now are
33:37
concerned that voter fraud is
going to occur in this 2024,
33:41
election, even though there's
never been evidence of
33:43
widespread or systematic fraud,
widespread or systematic fraud
33:46
in American elections,
especially recently,
33:49
Adam Curry: you don't need
widespread fraud. You only need
33:51
a couple of states Exactly.
That's the beauty of that's
33:54
John C Dvorak: the that's the
point of saying white, yeah, you
33:57
don't have widespread you have
targeted, yeah, that exactly.
34:01
It's Can you swap out the word
widespread for targeted fraud?
34:05
They won't do it,
34:07
Adam Curry: yeah? Because that's
all you need with the electoral
34:10
college. That's how it works.
You need a couple targeted
34:12
fraud. Yeah? And one way to do
that, and Arizona,
34:16
John C Dvorak: by the way, was
one of the targets. And yes,
34:18
it's fairly obvious. It keeps
coming up. Information keeps
34:21
coming to light. And who
34:22
Adam Curry: and who targeted?
Who was the first to target
34:25
Arizona? Fox News. They called
Arizona when there was 1% of the
34:32
votes were in Fox News. That's
34:35
John C Dvorak: a good point.
Yeah, Fox News, definitely and
34:39
and
34:39
Adam Curry: I would pay
attention to Fox News this time
34:42
around as well. These people are
the media chooses who wins in
34:47
our country. I'm staking my
reputation on it. Yeah,
34:54
John C Dvorak: all right. Last
clip
34:55
Unknown: the fact that election
officials have spent the last
34:57
four years trying to educate
voters. All the myriad security
35:01
processes they have in place
that make it so fraud is so rare
35:05
and especially hard to pull off
at like a statewide or a
35:08
Adam Curry: federal race, right?
What's with all the laughters,
35:10
bro,
35:12
Unknown: that make it so fraud
is so rare and especially hard
35:15
to pull off at like a statewide
or a federal race, right?
35:18
They've been trying to educate
those right really clear. It's
35:21
made a dent because Donald Trump
and other Republicans have
35:24
continued hammering this issue,
though, I will say election
35:28
officials are optimistic that
they're in a better position to
35:31
respond to some of those doubts
this time around. Specifically,
35:34
they're working closer than they
ever have before with law
35:36
enforcement, whether that's
around polling places or
35:38
certifications, thinking about
after the election. And so I
35:42
think election officials are a
little bit dejected at the tone
35:46
and tenor in which some voters
are thinking about the election
35:48
this time around, but they're
feeling definitely better
35:50
prepared for it. Yeah,
35:52
what are you anticipating when
it comes to how people cast
35:55
their votes? Are you
anticipating less early voting,
35:58
mail in, voting the 2020, or
what? Well,
36:00
based on the conversations I've
had, both with experts and some
36:03
poll results that we've seen, it
seems like the trend towards
36:06
early voting is continuing. If
you actually zoom out and look
36:09
at like, think about in like,
2000 or 2004 almost all voters.
36:13
More than 80% of voters, cast
their ballot in person on
36:16
election day, right? Whereas now
there is the expectation that
36:20
the majority of voters will vote
early in this election, whether
36:24
that's early in person or by
mail. It is not a kind of height
36:27
of the pandemic moment. So we
are definitely going to see less
36:30
mail voting than we saw in 2020
but I think the majority of
36:33
votes in this election cycle,
probably in the 55 to 60% range,
36:38
are going to be cast early this
time.
36:40
John C Dvorak: Two Two things
that have to be pointed out,
36:43
yes, and I didn't. I could have
gotten gone back and found the
36:47
super clip of this, but there
was a super clip floating around
36:51
from 2016 where all the
Democrats are talking about a
36:55
fraudulent vote, and Trump was
not the, not my president. He
36:59
got in, you know, and Hillary
was the leader of the gang of
37:03
this, oh, we got gypped, you
know, as a fraud. It was a fake.
37:06
It was a phony. So the Democrats
are just as guilty of this
37:09
complaining as anybody. And but
they seem to go all of a sudden,
37:13
that seems to have disappeared.
And then the other thing is, the
37:16
Democrats, once again, back in,
I don't know, the 80s, maybe the
37:19
70s, they put together a big
panel showing how, a study group
37:26
showing how mail in ballots are
so easy to phony up and to, you
37:32
know, to make the Election
fraudulent. And there's all,
37:36
mostly Democrats on this panel.
And it and it was, it came out,
37:40
and they used to talk about
this, this, this, this discuss.
37:43
This was discussed during the
2016 election, when they thought
37:46
Trump stole the election, and
now that's not being discussed
37:50
anymore either. These guys are
terrible at journalism.
37:55
Adam Curry: No, they're doing
they're fantastic. They're doing
37:58
their actual job to to make the
donors to NPR happy.
38:04
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
me you, I didn't want to do
38:07
this, yeah, okay, but that
brings me to the two clips.
38:11
Okay, you're up, actually three
clips, but there's just two main
38:15
ones, which is the ambush clips.
And I took this from Megyn
38:19
Kelly's show.
38:20
Adam Curry: Go, go. Wow, you're
watching Megyn Kelly now. Oh,
38:24
John C Dvorak: this. It was the
clips that showed up, and I it
38:26
was, since I was stealing the
clips from her show, I might as
38:30
well let, let her also introduce
the clips. And these are some
38:35
James O'Keefe found some had is
one of his women. You've
38:40
Adam Curry: seen this this, by
the way, this is a she is. This
38:43
is the best example of the
culture war economy. This is how
38:46
we all make money. Now, we've
got to be all outraged. We got
38:49
undercover video We're all mad
about is crazy. It
38:55
John C Dvorak: is pretty funny
in that regard, if you from that
38:58
perspective, definitely. Yeah.
But this poor doofus sounds
39:03
pretty. I guess he's O'Keefe.
Got a couple of
39:05
Adam Curry: women on the Oh,
yeah, of course. Honey potting.
39:08
These
39:09
John C Dvorak: guys, right?
Honey pots is what we used to
39:12
call it, the business. It's
beautiful, yes. And so they got
39:15
this poor sucker from MSNBC, one
of the producers. These are the
39:19
guys, if you do any hits on any
of these shows, if you're in
39:22
that, if you're doing spots,
it's the producers who call you.
39:27
They're the ones who booked you.
They do all the work
39:29
Adam Curry: and do the pre
interview and make sure that you
39:32
know exactly what you're going
to say, so they know it. So they
39:34
can do the lead in, they can
time it perfectly, and you're
39:36
good to go.
39:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then so
they can also write the copy for
39:39
the news reader, yeah, so they
get everything works smoothly.
39:44
It's its way. It's just the way
it is. And so here's some dumb
39:47
schlub who's named by Megan in
the second clip, getting Honey
39:53
potted into stupidity. All knew
39:55
Unknown: this about MSNBC, but
it's still interesting to hear a
39:58
producer at the network. Admit
it, saying the following. Watch,
40:02
do you feel like MSNBC is doing
enough to help the Harris
40:06
campaign?
40:07
I mean, they're doing all they
can, which is why amplify her
40:12
message? What? What her message
of the day is, is their message
40:16
of the day. This hammers home
the point that I'm making, that
40:20
this news network is
indistinguishable from the
40:23
party. Are
40:24
they just a Democratic Party's
mouthpiece? Exactly. MSNBC is
40:27
the Democratic Party's
mouthpiece. He
40:29
Adam Curry: kind of says it a
bit like with disdain, like he's
40:32
he even finds it somewhat
disgusting. Or am I mishearing
40:36
that?
40:37
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I
he's got a smile on his face, so
40:39
I'm not sure that's true. All
right? Well, in audio, sticky
40:43
smiling at her, and he's going
in line, and she's asking
40:46
leading questions. Of some
you're on a date. Hey, some
40:50
girls leading you on with these
sorts of what are you creating
40:54
questions? How
40:55
Adam Curry: hard up for a date
are you that you're gonna let
40:57
this shutting up? Come on, you
don't choose? Oh, man, yes,
41:01
crazy, yeah,
41:02
Unknown: so it's MSNBC, just
like doing whatever it takes to
41:05
get his home a real update.
She's
41:07
Adam Curry: even asking the
questions like an interviewer.
41:09
How can this guy not know what's
going on? Yes,
41:12
Unknown: they've made their
viewers dumber over the years.
41:15
Viewers get mad at the guests or
the hosts, if the host were to
41:19
criticize Democrats because
they're so brainwashed.
41:22
Yes, and to think, you know, the
Democratic Party can
41:25
do no wrong, not that they can't
do any wrong. It's maybe they
41:29
can do wrong. I just don't want
to hear about it. Don't say it
41:32
out loud, because if you say it
out loud, it helps Trump. I
41:36
think brainwashing and dumbing
down, it's bad, aggressive. I
41:40
get it helps Trump. You
41:42
Adam Curry: know, what I think
I'm hearing from him is that he
41:46
finds it all despicable. He
probably thinks Kamala Harris is
41:50
dumb, but the brainwashing has
taken place in him that, oh, no,
41:55
Trump's gonna get rid of the
Constitution. He's gonna get rid
41:58
of our democracy. I think that's
what I'm hearing. You know, it's
42:01
like, you know, he's going to
rip up the Constitution on day
42:05
one. He's going to be a dictator
from day one, all of these
42:08
things has seeped into his
brain, and he just believes it.
42:12
Yeah,
42:13
John C Dvorak: it could be. I
mean, I'm not sure he's talking
42:17
too much about it. And you know,
if you're going to be sneaky,
42:20
like this guy, or like the whole
network. I mean, it's the kind
42:24
of thing you'd be a little more
I think,
42:27
Adam Curry: well, it's not
sneaky. Then again, wait,
42:29
John C Dvorak: wait, let me
correct myself. It's possible
42:34
that they're not being, you
know, they are brainwashing and
42:37
dumbing down their pocket, but
they think they're doing it for
42:39
a good cause, for
42:40
Adam Curry: America, yeah, from
America. From
42:44
John C Dvorak: America, yeah,
yeah. I can. I can, yeah, I
42:47
can't argue against that
possibility, which has always
42:50
been my argument, which is that
sincerity on the part of these
42:53
people is quite high,
42:54
Adam Curry: but they are also,
they are, by extension, part of
42:56
the entire administrative state.
They also feel like they're part
43:02
of it. They're in DC, they're
going to the same parties.
43:05
They're hanging out with the
same people. They have a little
43:08
bit of a little bit of power
because, oh, I'm on TV, you
43:13
know, oh, you're important from
time to time. Can give me your
43:16
cell number. I can give you a
call, you know, when I hear
43:18
something that, you know, of
course, I'm going to be leaking
43:21
on purposely to you, but, you
know, it might be inside track.
43:24
It make you look good. You know,
they're, they're a part of that
43:27
system. The entire This is, what
is the Is it 4 million people
43:31
that work for the, for the, for
all administrative agencies?
43:35
John C Dvorak: I think it's
higher than that. Yeah. So
43:38
Adam Curry: it's, it's to coin a
mike Ben's phrase, it's the
43:43
blob, and they are part of the
blob, and they've and they feel
43:46
that they're an important part
of it. So this has nothing to do
43:49
with journalism. No, I'm sorry
it does. This is what they're
43:52
taught in Journalism School,
43:53
John C Dvorak: Jesus nowadays.
JC, so, yes, yeah,
43:57
Adam Curry: this is and look at
the professor, Jeff Jarvis. No,
44:01
not Jeff Jarvis, the other guy,
who's the that, who's the, ah,
44:05
who's the professor, who, who's
44:06
John C Dvorak: rosin. Rosen,
44:09
Adam Curry: yeah, Jay Rosen,
44:10
John C Dvorak: Jay Rosen, well,
Jarvis and Rosen are very
44:12
similar. I think Jarvis has been
same guy. I don't know if he's
44:16
what, they're the same guy,
basically, yes, the same basis,
44:19
basically the same guy.
44:20
Adam Curry: And, you know, and
they're out there teaching and
44:24
also yelling because I followed
them, I think they're on
44:27
Mastodon, like the New York
Times, dude, they put this Trump
44:32
travesty on page nine
44:37
John C Dvorak: once in a while.
It's knee jerk, yeah, well,
44:41
they're
44:41
Adam Curry: disappointed in the
New York Times because the New
44:44
York Times didn't caught them
out.
44:48
John C Dvorak: Then there must
be reasons. There's a very
44:50
strong movement amongst supposed
journalists of Slant the news,
44:55
and they talk about it openly. I
44:57
Adam Curry: have a after you're
done with these. MSM, yeah,
44:59
because. The
45:00
John C Dvorak: rest of this is
Megan and her and her friend
45:02
that's that's on the show,
mocking the whole thing. And I
45:06
kept these two clips because I
thought it was good enough that
45:09
it would be worth a listen. Poor
basil Hamden,
45:13
Unknown: pro tip, when your date
sounds more like the Inquisitor
45:17
at a deposition and has her
handbag pointed at you just ask
45:21
you to speak into it a note of
caution before you, before you
45:26
offer your unvarnished It was
unbelievable. Like, yeah, would
45:30
you say yes, I would.
45:33
Adam Curry: Hey, we should, you
know, can we do Pro Tip of the
45:36
day we get on that train, pro
tip and don't drink, like,
45:42
Unknown: don't get so, you know,
fuzzy that you're sort of like
45:46
spouting proudly what you're
doing. I mean, my favorite part
45:49
of that clip Megan is when he
says, We're dumbing our audience
45:52
down. Like this is the
viewership that likes to feel
45:55
like they're so high on their
own supply of, like, moral self
45:59
righteousness. Uh, Pot, kettle
black, hello, and that every
46:03
political position that's
espoused by this network, that's
46:07
Adam Curry: exactly what Megyn
Kelly does, is exactly the same
46:10
thing, only she's a podcaster,
only
46:12
Unknown: true and correct one,
and he's basically saying, we've
46:15
we've done them down, and we've
brainwashed them, and it's good
46:19
for us. And it's, you know,
like, let's just not get Trump
46:22
elected. It's and the way he
said, like he's smiling, he's
46:26
like, he thinks it's funny. He's
kind of proud of it. It seems
46:29
like, I mean it like I could
watch that thing on a loop. It's
46:32
amazing.
46:33
This is all I could think of a
couple of months ago when they
46:37
were all indignant about Ronna
McDaniel being hired as a
46:41
contributor after she left the
RNC, and they acted like the
46:45
devil himself had been under
contract now to MS, they all
46:50
went on the air trying to get
her fired, which was ultimately
46:53
successful, talking about
themselves and their network
46:58
like they were honest, Abe
themselves. They, you know, like
47:01
George Washington, we cannot
tell a lie. Here at MSNBC, we
47:05
could not possibly hire someone
who lies from pay. Remember, we
47:10
cut this sound bite and I
resurrected here.
47:12
Adam Curry: You know the thing,
the thing that gets me is that
47:15
in this culture war economy,
Megyn Kelly on the front lines,
47:19
if, she would talk about
something else, anything but,
47:25
but playing, you know, MSNBC
clips and the outrage, then no
47:30
one would see it. It's because
of
47:34
John C Dvorak: this. Yes, this
about, Is this, like log
47:37
rolling? Yes, it's like, it's,
it's called modeling post modern
47:43
versus modern of log rolling. It
is, yeah, because it's like,
47:46
Hey, you want go watch MSNBC.
Wait a minute. What? What?
47:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Oh,
wait, you don't have to. I'll
47:53
play a clip.
47:54
John C Dvorak: So here's the
clip she plays, which I thought
47:56
was a good clip, because it was
we played this clip before. But
47:58
it's, I like it, because the
very last thing that's said on
48:03
the clip is it makes it worth
playing again.
48:05
Unknown: I want to associate
myself with all my colleagues,
48:07
both at MSNBC and at NBC News,
who have voiced loud and
48:12
principled objections to our
company putting on the payroll,
48:16
someone who hasn't just attacked
us as journalists, but someone
48:21
who is part of an ongoing
project to get rid of our system
48:24
of government.
48:25
We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring, but if we were, we
48:28
would have strongly objected to
it
48:30
when NBC made the decision to
give her NBC News's credibility,
48:34
you got to ask yourself, what
does she bring? NBC News,
48:37
we welcome Republican. I wish
more Republican. I want Adam
48:40
Kinzinger and Liz Cheney to get
right here and come talk to me.
48:43
The reality is, this isn't a
difference of opinion. She
48:47
literally backed an illegal
scheme to steal
48:52
an election in the state of
Michigan,
48:53
and our democracy is in danger
because of the lies that people
48:56
like Ronna McDaniel have pushed
on this country,
49:00
not just they can do that on our
airwaves, but if they can do
49:03
that as one of us carrying
employees of NBC News, hey,
49:09
contributors to our sacred
airwaves? Oh,
49:12
Adam Curry: yeah, that was
49:14
John C Dvorak: we did airway
airwaves.
49:17
Adam Curry: And of course, we're
also participating in this
49:20
scandalous behavior,
49:21
John C Dvorak: yeah, no, we're
log rolling.
49:23
Adam Curry: We are log rolling
now. We
49:24
John C Dvorak: don't get any
rollback. They don't plug us.
49:27
There's
49:27
Adam Curry: no backlinks, man,
no ping backs, no ping backs. I
49:31
John C Dvorak: should probably
stop doing these clips, so
49:33
Adam Curry: the turn Yes. Well,
if we stop doing these clips,
49:35
there'd be no show,
49:38
John C Dvorak: except we know.
We just know those clips. I just
49:41
played those three clips of
Megan, the guy, and we could, if
49:44
I took those out of the show,
there would still be a
49:46
Adam Curry: show. Yeah, okay, it
would be three minutes shorter.
49:49
John C Dvorak: It'd be three
minutes shorter. It's about the
49:51
difference. So here's, it's
probably good.
49:53
Adam Curry: Here's the term,
here's the term, the term, and
49:56
just as we were talking about
with Rosen and Jarvis, the term
49:59
is, it's. Sane washing? Yes, we
have a term over here at CNN,
50:04
there's a
50:05
Unknown: new word being used in
this campaign, or at least new
50:07
to me, sane washing. And that's
the notion that the media
50:11
actually, contrary to what Brian
said, the media is cleaning up
50:15
some of Trump's more outlandish
remarks. For instance, here's
50:18
Trump this week talking about a
person in this country illegally
50:22
who killed someone.
50:25
She murdered him. In my opinion,
Kamala murdered him just like
50:29
she did, just like she had a gun
in her hand,
50:32
but he but here was the AP
headline about the speech Trump
50:36
rallies in Wisconsin's critical
Democratic stronghold ahead of
50:40
the vice presidential debate, no
mention of Trump accusing his
50:45
opponent, Vice President Harris,
of, in effect, murder.
50:48
Adam Curry: Oh no,
50:49
Unknown: what?
50:50
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, yeah, that
50:51
John C Dvorak: it now you got
you bordering on making a that,
50:54
that clip. Well, there's another
we should talk about insane.
50:58
This should be insane washing.
51:01
Adam Curry: Is the second half
is the
51:03
Unknown: media sanewashing Some
of Trump's comments,
51:06
I think it is the role of the
media to report on what happens.
51:10
I do not think it is the role of
the media to tell people how
51:13
they should feel about it. And I
think right now, there is a lot
51:16
of befuddlement on the part of
people don't like Donald Trump.
51:19
Anybody could possibly want to
see Donald Trump back in the
51:22
White House. And so they're
looking for reasons to say,
51:25
Well, gosh, maybe it's just that
the 47% of America that likes
51:28
Donald Trump and wants to vote
for him again is just they've
51:32
become immune to the idea that
he's crazy and it's the media's
51:34
fault. But it is really that a
lot of Americans have just
51:37
decided, You know what, I'm
willing to take the good with
51:39
the bad, and for them, they
think no amount of crazy is too
51:42
much.
51:43
John C Dvorak: So wait so, so
Trump, in his speech, delivers
51:48
what's more or less a metaphor
by making the claim that Kamala
51:54
is the murderer for letting a
murderer murder. Yeah, it was
51:57
Adam Curry: very similar, more
or less, Trump incited an
52:00
insurrection kind of the same
thing. Yeah.
52:03
John C Dvorak: So, so that is,
somehow, that should be report.
52:09
I don't understand what they're
trying to tell us here. They're
52:12
Adam Curry: trying to get a word
into the dictionary so they can
52:14
say, Well, we did it. Has word
of the year. Well,
52:17
John C Dvorak: by the way,
that's a very important thing.
52:19
I've always this been one of my
is that one of your goals? Yeah,
52:23
everybody, everyone who's ever
been a writer, always has that.
52:26
Well,
52:26
Adam Curry: we might, we just
might get douchebag, oh, a
52:28
douchebags already in there bags
and is and is there any word
52:32
that we, that we can get, we can
promote to get into the
52:35
John C Dvorak: dictionary. Have
to look new. We have the top my
52:39
head, like,
52:39
Adam Curry: you know, we've got
some, we got some. So sane wash
52:46
this. Trump did a return to
Butler, Pennsylvania, big crowd.
52:54
What I could see, I don't know
how many people, a big crowd. It
52:56
was just a couple of clips
showing it was a big crowd. It
52:58
was big crowd. And brings out
Elon Musk, yeah, who is jumping
53:04
around like a like a maniac.
It's
53:06
John C Dvorak: like a spaz.
53:08
Adam Curry: Like, like a spaz.
And here was the core of what he
53:12
said for tech billionaire
53:13
Unknown: Elon Musk, it was the
first appearance at a Trump
53:16
rally. He urged listeners to
tell everyone they knew to
53:19
register to vote and framed the
election as a last stand for
53:23
American democracy.
53:24
I'm dark mega
53:27
Adam Curry: What's this dark
Maga nonsense?
53:29
John C Dvorak: I think. What is
that? I don't know if he said
53:31
dark or Darth. No, I think he
said dark. Well, if you said
53:36
dark or Darth, that's because he
had a black Maga hat. Oh, okay.
53:40
Oh, and it said it was, it was a
black hat, and in black threads,
53:45
it said, Make America great. He
said, dork, Maga, dork, mag and
53:48
then he had a shirt on that
said, occupy Mars. Yeah, yeah.
53:53
Okay. He's, he's being himself,
but I like the hat.
53:57
Adam Curry: Well, no, I don't
like the hat because it's off
53:59
brand the hat. You cannot like
that. I like that. It's off
54:02
brand.
54:03
John C Dvorak: This reminds,
well, it is off brand. But this
54:06
reminds me of years ago I went
to a raider Kansas City game,
54:16
and because the Raider fans are
kind of insane, and they would
54:20
beat you up if you were like,
wearing Kansas City colors at a
54:23
game like this. Oh, and so I was
sitting next to something, and
54:26
he had the black Raider colors,
but on the Raider sweater shirt
54:32
sweatshirt, it was actually said
Kansas City Chiefs in the Raider
54:36
colors. And it was very cute.
And I said, That's a great idea.
54:40
Says You better believe it. You
have to be careful around here.
54:44
So that's what he was doing with
the black hat. I equated it with
54:49
that sort of thinking, Okay,
well, back to dork Maga and
54:52
Unknown: frames the election as
a last stand for American
54:54
democracy.
54:55
Dark mega
54:57
text, people now.
55:00
Now and then make sure they
actually do vote. If they don't,
55:11
this will be the last election.
That's my prediction.
55:15
Adam Curry: Nothing's more
important this last election
55:18
John C Dvorak: thing, yeah, it's
getting on my nerves, too. Yeah,
55:21
well,
55:22
Adam Curry: so in my general
sphere, we have a family member
55:28
who exclusively watches MSNBC is
completely that's okay, because
55:34
we all love each other, and we
could just say we're not gonna
55:37
talk politics and completely
believes that, you know, Trump
55:44
will destroy the Constitution,
rip it up, that he's going to do
55:48
away with democracy. There will
be no elections. So this is now
55:53
playing on both sides. As an
aside from the circles here in
55:58
the hill country, I can tell
you, the latest meme is, there's
56:02
not going to be an election this
year, because they're going to
56:05
bring down the grid, I know.
56:12
John C Dvorak: And this spreads
getting better by the minute.
56:15
This spreads
56:16
Adam Curry: like and you know,
people are asking me, How should
56:18
I get a sat phone? So who you
gonna call? If the grid is down,
56:24
who are you gonna call? We
56:25
John C Dvorak: gonna call you
this year. You have a did you
56:29
tell him to get a ham radio?
56:31
Adam Curry: You know, I have
received multiple inquiries from
56:34
people about ham radios. Yeah, I
have to say, Hey, what should I
56:39
get? I said, first you need a
license.
56:43
John C Dvorak: I never thought
about that. Yeah, well, the list
56:46
you need a license. Just get a
license. Everybody
56:49
Adam Curry: knows it's to get
your technicians. Ham radio
56:53
operator license is incredibly
simple. You go to a rrl.org, you
56:59
look for technicians license,
and you'll find out where the
57:03
test is usually done once a
month, and in your area, it's
57:06
going to be a bunch of hams who
administer the test, I think
57:09
they're called VAs and and they
give you the exact questions for
57:17
that month's test, with all the
answers and multiple choice. The
57:21
only thing is, the answers will
be in a different order on the
57:24
John C Dvorak: test. Well,
there'll also be different
57:26
questions. No,
57:28
Adam Curry: they might all the
but you get all the questions.
57:31
No, all
57:31
John C Dvorak: the questions are
there, yeah, but they may just
57:35
as an example. Say, for example,
the test has 100 questions.
57:39
They'll give you 150 questions
with all the answers and
57:42
questions, and if you can
remember all of those, you can
57:46
take the test and easily pass
it. Yes, correct.
57:48
Adam Curry: See as you don't get
all of them. That's right, but
57:50
you get all of them on the
tests.
57:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get all
of them from the sample. There's
57:56
no surprise question, no, no,
like you get at the DMV and I
58:00
Adam Curry: and here's an
example of a question, should
58:02
you think about putting an
antenna up during a lightning
58:07
storm? I think that was one of
the, I
58:10
John C Dvorak: don't remember
that. I
58:11
Adam Curry: think it was one of
the questions, maybe for Texas.
58:15
But there's, it really is quite
simple. And then you can get a
58:18
Bao Fang, or any of these
radios, and you can do it away,
58:21
by the
58:21
John C Dvorak: way, if you're a
computer guy, and most of our
58:25
lot of our audience are dudes
named Ben, you already know the
58:29
answers. Don't most of these
questions, because there are a
58:31
lot of them are just technical,
technical questions that you
58:34
would know normally in your day
to day life.
58:38
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so then
all you need to figure out is
58:41
how a repeater works. That's
what saved. Let's save lives in
58:46
in North Carolina. And what I
would recommend for the
58:49
computer, guys and gals, is
learn how to use one of these
58:53
digital programs, because with
very, very low output and a wire
58:59
hung up in a tree, you can
actually get a lot done,
59:02
John C Dvorak: just don't put
the wire up during an electrical
59:04
storm. That's uh, answer
59:06
Adam Curry: D on question 79
Yeah,
59:11
John C Dvorak: yeah, yes. People
have to realize that the
59:14
question and there are tests,
there are online tests, and you
59:18
go to one of those, you don't
take, don't read the long book.
59:22
There's like an A, I think aarl
has, God no, no, giant book that
59:26
you're supposed to read. Don't
read the book. Go to one of the
59:29
online, this is like Tip of the
Day. Go to one of the online Q
59:35
and A's, and they'll give you
the this month's, this month's
59:38
or this quarter's questions, and
one after the after the other,
59:41
after the other, and then it
gives you a grade. And you keep
59:44
taking the test over and over
and over again. You could take
59:47
it maybe five or six. You can
take as many times as you want,
59:49
but after about the fourth time,
you'll get you'll get it more
59:52
than your than your passing
grade. And then you can go take
59:56
the test and you'll just pass.
Yeah, and do it now.
59:58
Adam Curry: Don't wait. Do it
now.
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: Let's do it now.
I
1:00:00
Adam Curry: agree. Have you
renewed your license? Yeah, I
1:00:03
John C Dvorak: renewed it months
and months. Oh, good, yeah,
1:00:04
good, good. I
1:00:05
Adam Curry: just want to make
sure.
1:00:06
John C Dvorak: No, I told people
to remind me, and I find I did
1:00:09
it and and it would. There was
something. I had a story about
1:00:12
it too. There was some screwy
thing about it. Oh, renewing.
1:00:15
Oh, really, yeah, I talked about
on the show. And I can't
1:00:17
remember what it was, but
there's some number. There was
1:00:19
some I thought was like, well,
this doesn't make any sense, but
1:00:22
okay,
1:00:23
Adam Curry: they charge you more
money. No, there's, I
1:00:26
John C Dvorak: don't even think
it was. I think it was, it may
1:00:28
have been free, but there was
some, some mishap that was
1:00:32
involved in irksome
1:00:35
Adam Curry: while we're kind of
on, although we've moved off, a
1:00:38
little bit about about social
media. I'm not quite sure what
1:00:43
Hillary Clinton was. First of
all, she was on smirconish,
1:00:47
smirconish. And I guess she's,
she's plugging her book,
1:00:50
smirconish, you know, CNN,
Smerconish, who's this supposed
1:00:54
to be kind of easy douche, MER
dosh ish and, and I think this
1:01:03
is a message to the social media
companies. I'm not quite sure
1:01:07
it's like a pressure campaign or
it has to have something to do
1:01:12
with the elections, otherwise,
why would she even be
1:01:15
interviewed? So it's about kids
and social media, as you
1:01:18
Unknown: rightly point out,
Michael in the book, I write
1:01:21
about how I don't think our kids
are all right because I think
1:01:24
they become addicted to social
media. I think the phones in
1:01:28
their pockets or their purses
have a huge impact on how they
1:01:33
spend their time, whether they
interact with other people. And
1:01:36
now we know that very often kids
are affected by anxiety or
1:01:41
depression, or, you know, all
kinds of problems that are at
1:01:47
least connected to, if not
caused by this addiction to the
1:01:52
screen. So
1:01:53
I was happy to see you cite the
work of Robert Putnam. Bowling
1:01:56
Alone made an impact on me, the
discussion of social capital, of
1:02:00
the sort that I'm sure the
rodhams enjoyed in Park Ridge,
1:02:04
right? Participation, belonging,
volunteerism.
1:02:07
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
that the rodhams enjoyed in Park
1:02:10
Ridge? What is that? Is that,
where she grew up, in Park
1:02:12
Ridge,
1:02:13
John C Dvorak: I You got me. All
I know is there's nothing wrong
1:02:16
with bowling alone if you're a
bowler that is so miserable.
1:02:21
Unknown: Jonathan Haidt. You
cite gene twangy. Here's what
1:02:24
disappoints me, and it's not
about you, madam, Secretary, I'm
1:02:27
shocked that no person, no
Republican, no democrat, is
1:02:31
championing this issue. The
Social Science is so clear. The
1:02:35
Political Science is so clear.
Our fabric is frayed as a
1:02:38
nation. Our kids are
disconnected too much time
1:02:41
behind closed doors on devices,
and not enough time replicating
1:02:44
the experience of their parents
and grandparents.
1:02:47
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's kind
of the setup, but then she
1:02:49
hammers it home. And here, I
think, is the is the threat,
1:02:52
you're
1:02:53
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every
1:02:56
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things
1:03:00
done,
1:03:00
Adam Curry: we should. That's
interesting. Legislative
1:03:03
political agenda, not
legislative health agenda.
1:03:09
Legislative political agenda.
1:03:12
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's an
interesting catch. Yeah,
1:03:14
Adam Curry: that and I just
heard this now. Oh, wait a
1:03:16
minute, you don't actually care
about the kids unless they're
1:03:19
voting, which they're too young
for. You're
1:03:21
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every
1:03:24
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things
1:03:28
done. We should be, in my view,
repealing something called
1:03:32
Section 230 which gave, you
know, platforms on the internet,
1:03:37
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, and
back it up. The what because of
1:03:40
what you just caught, the
Democrats have captured the
1:03:45
educational system of primary
education, secondary education
1:03:50
and colleges of all as
brainwashing tools. Yes, for
1:03:54
political purposes, they lost
this one, and now this what,
1:03:59
this is, what she's really
talking about. This is a an
1:04:02
element of control that they
don't have control of, and they
1:04:06
lost it. And this is where she
where she's all freaked out
1:04:09
Unknown: playing something
called Section 230 which gave,
1:04:13
you know, platforms on the
internet immunity, because they
1:04:16
were thought to be just pass
throughs that they shouldn't be
1:04:19
judged for the content that is
posted. But we now know that
1:04:23
that was an overly simple view,
that if the platforms, whether
1:04:27
it's Facebook or Twitter, x or
notice
1:04:31
Adam Curry: Facebook comes
first, because, you know,
1:04:33
Zuckerberg is now turned into a
bro. Zuckerberg, he's got his
1:04:38
hairs all along. He no longer
has that Caesar, that dorky
1:04:41
Caesar cut. He's got long bro
hair. He's doing Taekwondo. He's
1:04:48
John C Dvorak: like ketamine to
me
1:04:50
Unknown: full view that if the
platforms, whether it's Facebook
1:04:53
or Twitter, x or Instagram or
Tiktok, whatever they are, if
1:04:59
they don't. Moderate and monitor
the content, we lose total
1:05:04
control. And it's not just
social and psychological
1:05:08
effects. It's real harm. It's,
you know, child porn and threats
1:05:13
of violence.
1:05:15
John C Dvorak: We lose total
control. Yeah, it's not that we
1:05:19
lose we're losing control the
way she phrases it, we lose
1:05:22
total control, because right now
they have total control over the
1:05:26
mechanism of information
1:05:28
Adam Curry: we have Yes, yes,
exactly. And so we were losing
1:05:31
our
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: total she should
have said, Are we lose this?
1:05:35
We're losing total control.
Should be we're losing our total
1:05:38
control over the information
flow. She freaked out about
1:05:42
Adam Curry: it. Yes, yes, and
mainly about Zuckerberg. We lose
1:05:46
Unknown: total control. And it's
not just the social and
1:05:50
psychological effects. It's real
harm. It's, you know, child porn
1:05:54
and threats of violence, things
that are terribly dangerous. So
1:05:59
I couldn't agree with you more,
we need to remove the immunity
1:06:03
from liability, and we need to
have guard rails. We need
1:06:06
regulation. We
1:06:07
Adam Curry: need to remove the
immunity from liability, okay?
1:06:12
So that can be like, Okay, now I
understand what she's saying, by
1:06:15
the way, yeah,
1:06:17
John C Dvorak: I I've been on
Twitter since, I don't know,
1:06:19
2007 or something like your OG.
I'm an ODE close to it. I have
1:06:25
never seen child porn on
Twitter, ever. I've never seen
1:06:31
it on Instagram. I've never seen
it on Facebook. I don't have a
1:06:34
Facebook account, but I can
sneak it on there sometimes, and
1:06:38
or somebody else's account. And
I've never seen i She's talking
1:06:42
about
1:06:42
Adam Curry: frazzle drip. I
1:06:44
Unknown: couldn't agree with you
more. We need to remove the
1:06:46
immunity from liability, and we
need to have guard rails. We
1:06:50
need regulation. We've conducted
this big experiment on ourselves
1:06:55
and particularly our kids, and I
think the evidence is in that
1:06:58
we've got to do more.
1:07:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got to do
more. Yeah. NPR had a very,
1:07:04
very, just, very short clip
here. About as it pertains to
1:07:09
social media, another new term.
1:07:11
Unknown: Researchers have found
a phenomenon called belief
1:07:14
regression. It's when a
correction to misinformation
1:07:17
works really well in the short
term, but over
1:07:19
time, people's belief kind of
creeps towards these pre
1:07:23
correction levels, and what we
found is it's mostly down to
1:07:28
memory.
1:07:28
So it's worth repeating that
corrections to misinformation
1:07:31
are worth repeating.
1:07:36
Adam Curry: NPR, all
1:07:38
John C Dvorak: of hammer them.
Hammer them again, all of them.
1:07:42
All of them.
1:07:44
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Well, it's all kind of fun
1:07:52
for the show. For the show, it's
great fun. I got a boots on the
1:07:56
ground from Dame aquamarine, and
she says, You know, I'm an avid
1:08:02
reader who's been reading
popular fiction. Have been a
1:08:04
member of book clubs in two
different states, in both public
1:08:06
library and private groups for
over 10 years. I hate to say it,
1:08:10
but I believe. And she says, The
Norman Lear foundation, but it
1:08:13
could be in any it's it's, well,
actually, I said I would read
1:08:17
this because you would be able
to explain it better. Because
1:08:19
about publishing, the Norman
Lear Foundation has infiltrated
1:08:22
popular literature in the
offices of the editors and the
1:08:24
offices of the booksellers.
Examples below. It used to be
1:08:30
that a book might contain
characters or situations that
1:08:33
were thought provoking and would
add to the story. Now, the
1:08:35
subjects seem to be added for no
real reason other than to
1:08:38
mention them. The Hunting Party
by Lisa Foley, climate change
1:08:42
mentioned often, and I mean
often I get it. It's hot and dry
1:08:45
in Ireland in the summer, the
measure, by Nikki Elric, a lot
1:08:50
is made of the lesbian
relationship between two of the
1:08:53
main characters. It was not just
the mention of the relationship,
1:08:56
but discussing the relationship
over and over again, also
1:08:59
climate change and interracial
relationships. And my favorite,
1:09:03
she says, mad Honey by Jodi pilk
Pikul and Jennifer Finney,
1:09:08
Bolin, boilin, I could only get
through 150 pages, and in that
1:09:13
150 pages, the following
subjects were included in the
1:09:16
story, suicide, domestic abuse,
anger management, climate
1:09:20
change, chan transgenderism,
gender reassignment at a young
1:09:23
age, interracial marriage,
lesbianism, gay marriage,
1:09:26
police, oppression of blacks and
alcoholism. I used to enjoy
1:09:30
Jodie picoul As an author, and
enjoyed many of her previous
1:09:33
books. They were formulaic, but
they were enjoyable. During this
1:09:36
book, I felt lectured
constantly, especially if I
1:09:39
didn't agree. It was frustrating
to me a no agenda listener to
1:09:43
hear how other readers felt for
the author's views. I was in the
1:09:46
lone voice when I brought up the
sterilization of long term
1:09:49
mental health outcomes. So I
said, you know, John would know
1:09:54
what's wrong with the publishing
industry.
1:09:58
John C Dvorak: Well, there's not
much to it. As. Just the people
1:10:00
who do people it. They're not
well paid. And so it's like
1:10:04
journalists. You have a low paid
crowd that is a very socialist,
1:10:11
because they want more money.
And they, they promote these
1:10:15
ideas, and they, and there's a
group think the all the whole
1:10:18
publishing company will probably
be is probably turned woke. I
1:10:21
Adam Curry: was gonna say how
many publishing companies are?
1:10:23
There are, there are, there's
about
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: 100 I guess are
1:10:27
Adam Curry: all of them woke?
1:10:30
John C Dvorak: I think most of
them are. Now, nowadays, yeah,
1:10:32
it's like, the same as the
newspapers. Oh, yeah, the
1:10:35
newspapers are. It's, there's no
difference. The newspapers are a
1:10:38
publishing company only. They do
a different type of publishing.
1:10:41
They publish a daily, yeah, a
daily tome. I mean, if you look
1:10:44
at a newspaper that thinks the
size of a book often, if you put
1:10:47
it and made it into pages, yeah?
So they're publishing books too,
1:10:52
in terms of volume of words,
and, yeah, they're all woke.
1:10:57
It's because the low pay, I
think, has a lot to do with it.
1:11:02
Then they tend to be unionized
the newspapers, for sure, yeah,
1:11:06
yeah, it's just, it's just the
people after
1:11:10
Adam Curry: Ford, Harley
Davidson, John Deere, Black and
1:11:15
Decker. Now Toyota walking back
their diversity equity and
1:11:19
inclusion programs saying they
will no longer sponsor cultural
1:11:24
events and parades such as LGBTQ
plus pride.
1:11:30
John C Dvorak: But I think, I
think it's less walking back and
1:11:33
more of them recognizing that
these things have become lewd
1:11:36
events. Dale gay pride parade
used to be a kind of, you know,
1:11:44
people doing a parade in San
Francisco and elsewhere, yeah.
1:11:48
And it was, you know, you bring
your kids. It was like a parade.
1:11:50
It was kind of cute, but they
became lewd events where they
1:11:54
had the guys, the last go round
they had in San Francisco, a
1:11:58
area where there was a bunch of
these plastic swimming pools.
1:12:00
They're peeing on each other.
Yeah, got it, you know, you can,
1:12:04
you're gonna sponsor that. This
is just a brand the state, brand
1:12:09
safety. What's that phrase that
is used all the time? Brand
1:12:11
safe, brand safety. Yeah,
there's not just not. These are
1:12:14
not brand safe events anymore.
So Toyota back out. It's not
1:12:18
because of, Oh, they've gone
anti dei it's because they've
1:12:22
gone they're brand safe, they're
the same as they are with
1:12:24
everything, and they're not
idiots. They're not going to be
1:12:27
associated with a bunch of guys
peeing on each other in public.
1:12:30
Adam Curry: Oh, what a loss for
the cause. They're Toyota's
1:12:36
walking us back. Man, it's no
good. All right, so the dock
1:12:43
workers strike ended very
abruptly, very quickly, with a
1:12:48
lot of fuzz, as in, what really
happened? Dock
1:12:52
Unknown: workers across the
eastern United States on
1:12:55
Thursday celebrated the news
that this week's strike was
1:12:58
ending quickly. I'm happy for
them, so
1:13:00
they can get back to work and
take care of their families. I
1:13:02
mean, they've been they been out
here for three days around the
1:13:04
clock, so this is a good thing
for everybody. It's a good thing
1:13:07
for the state, the port and all
the members here and all their
1:13:10
families. The
1:13:11
International longshoremen
Association launched their first
1:13:15
walkout since 1977 after
negotiations stalled over union
1:13:19
demands for significant wage
increases and protection against
1:13:23
automation related job loss, the
strike involved 45,000 workers
1:13:29
and paralyzed ports. From Maine
to Texas, at least 45 container
1:13:34
vessels unable to unload were
anchored outside the ports by
1:13:38
Wednesday, up from just three
before the strike began,
1:13:42
analysts cautioned that a long
strike could pose a major
1:13:45
economic headwind, leading to
shortages and raising prices at
1:13:49
a time when inflation has been
moderating. Under the tentative
1:13:53
agreement, dockworkers will
receive a 62% salary increase
1:13:57
over six years. The Union and
the United States Maritime
1:14:01
Alliance have agreed to extend
the existing contract until
1:14:05
January 15 while they negotiate
other outstanding issues.
1:14:10
Adam Curry: So Daggett, whatever
his name is, he was very clear,
1:14:17
77% five bucks across the board,
they settled for less for this
1:14:21
temporary halt, and just in
essence, punted it ahead until
1:14:28
after the election, right before
the insurrection can take place.
1:14:32
John C Dvorak: We have a boots
on the ground report from
1:14:35
someone we do, who lives next
door to these people.
1:14:38
Adam Curry: Oh, do you have it?
I don't have that. Yeah, I
1:14:40
John C Dvorak: do. I thought you
had it. No, I
1:14:41
Adam Curry: don't. I don't.
Don't
1:14:43
John C Dvorak: expose my
identity, please. I live in the
1:14:45
got the home of mob union boss
Harold
1:14:48
Adam Curry: New Jersey. The guy
in New Jersey, yeah,
1:14:51
John C Dvorak: yeah, was a boss
Harold, yeah, Daggett, along
1:14:55
with other execs of the ILA and
about 1.75 About 175 ILA
1:15:01
employees. We are in the woods.
Harrah is going to retire this
1:15:05
year. And he was told by many
around he has to do this strike
1:15:08
because he needs to beef up his
retirement, which I think sounds
1:15:11
right.
1:15:12
Adam Curry: How does the strike
beef up your retirement? Because
1:15:15
you
1:15:15
John C Dvorak: when you retire,
you go out at a higher amount of
1:15:18
money. You get
1:15:19
Adam Curry: a bigger percentage.
He already makes $800,000
1:15:22
John C Dvorak: he wants to make
more. Oh, please. It's still
1:15:26
going to be a percentage of it,
but I don't know. Maybe it's
1:15:28
100% but I don't know what their
retirement looks like. He says
1:15:32
Dennis will not be at the
negotiating table with Donald
1:15:34
Trump. By the way, some of the
rank and file were letting me
1:15:37
know that they did not support
the strike. They were required
1:15:40
to be walking in circles with
signs they didn't like the
1:15:42
strike, and it says they were
pissed because Harold Dennis and
1:15:47
the other bigwoods continue to
get paid. No, okay, yeah, but
1:15:51
they're, apparently they're both
Trump's. Everyone's a Trump
1:15:55
supporter, including the rank
and file and these guys. And I
1:15:59
think now this is, I gotta take
too much credit for this, for
1:16:02
the show, but when we brought up
the fact that if they go on the
1:16:06
strike and meat is re is
reintroduced to the American
1:16:11
public market, yeah, it will
lower the prices of beef, lower
1:16:14
the price of groceries and and
inflation will go down, right?
1:16:18
It will hurt with Trump. Can we
pay? We couldn't
1:16:20
Adam Curry: have that. Okay,
okay, two things start to make
1:16:23
sense. One dag it. He needed to
go beyond January then, because,
1:16:28
oh, I'm retiring. So there's
that part solved. And then
1:16:33
indeed it would, it would. It
would actually benefit the the
1:16:38
Harris campaign. But still, the
real issue here, it seems so
1:16:44
obvious to me the deeper I look
into it, it's the automation
1:16:47
part.
1:16:48
John C Dvorak: No, no, they
don't want that the point, but
1:16:50
they have, we have to
1:16:51
Adam Curry: have automation.
1:16:53
John C Dvorak: It'll happen.
It'll be built in no matter what
1:16:55
the how much noise they make
those it's the guy. What's going
1:16:58
to happen is the as the
employees, uh, kind of expire.
1:17:03
In other words, you know,
they've been there long enough,
1:17:06
when they're removed, when they
quit, when they retire, the
1:17:10
retire, their jobs will be
replaced by automation. So it's
1:17:14
not going to hurt any current
employees the automation, yeah,
1:17:18
I mean, because in China,
they're all those little, this
1:17:21
crazy looking, I don't know what
to even call them these like, I
1:17:24
don't know what to call them,
but they carry around the
1:17:27
containers around the yard. We
got, I got to know it from
1:17:30
somebody else who said, you
know, this is we need
1:17:33
automation, because you have to
time you you can't find your
1:17:36
load. Nobody knows what the hell
is going on. No, you sit in your
1:17:39
truck driving around
1:17:41
Adam Curry: terrible. And if you
look at the Port of Rotterdam,
1:17:44
that thing's almost completely
automated. They still have 4000
1:17:48
5000 workers, but it's not
50,000 and and the and the whole
1:17:54
idea of containers was
automation. It was stacking. It
1:17:57
was simple.
1:17:58
John C Dvorak: That was the
idea, exactly standardized.
1:18:01
Container idea was, it was a
revolution, and it was largely
1:18:05
because of you could, you could
automate it, yeah, as opposed to
1:18:08
loading, you know that you if
you looked at the old movies
1:18:11
from the 50s, and you see the
how they loaded a ship with a
1:18:15
bag full of shit, they dropped
it in the hole and sorted out.
1:18:19
He was just a joke like compared
to today,
1:18:22
Adam Curry: right? Just dropped.
The claw opened up. Good to go.
1:18:27
Yeah. So anyway, the good news
is the economy's doing great. We
1:18:35
had 250,000 jobs. Of course, if
you look into the report, you
1:18:40
see that 1.1 million citizens,
American citizens, lost their
1:18:46
jobs. Or like, no, was it? It
was, it was some. It was like,
1:18:51
most of the new jobs are by non
citizens. And I have no problem
1:18:56
with someone coming to America
to work, but we know that the
1:19:00
zone was flooded, and we know
the whole point.
1:19:02
John C Dvorak: Wait, hold on. I
said that doesn't make any sense
1:19:04
with good paying union jobs as
all Biden never said, Get go
1:19:08
dignity.
1:19:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, here. So Biden
came into the into the briefing
1:19:17
room. Not Joe Biden, by the way,
as far as I'm concerned, this
1:19:20
was daddy longlegs. The guy's
way too cognizant. He's, I mean,
1:19:26
he has some of the same stumbles
that have been practiced over
1:19:29
and over again. I just don't
think this is our president.
1:19:32
Anyway. He came in and say,
That's all great
1:19:34
Unknown: times. Joe Biden,
President with a rare visit to
1:19:37
the White House briefing room to
hail. Good news on the economy,
1:19:41
the nation is now created.
1:19:43
Adam Curry: He has not been in
the briefing room since his ever
1:19:46
see ever, maybe ever,
1:19:47
John C Dvorak: that's not rare,
ever. First time, ever times
1:19:51
Unknown: Joe Biden the President
with a rare visit to the White
1:19:54
House briefing room to hail.
Good news on the economy.
1:19:57
The nation has now created 16
million jobs. Have come to
1:20:00
office, 254,000
1:20:02
of them added in September. The
unemployment rate of 4.1% near a
1:20:07
50 year low. Wages rose 4% over
the past year, meaning paychecks
1:20:12
are growing faster than overall
inflation, and the Dow closed
1:20:16
today at a record high, gone
from
1:20:18
economy in crisis to literally
have the strongest economy in
1:20:22
the world. We've got more work
to do more
1:20:27
work, because many Americans
feel like they're struggling to
1:20:30
make ends meet with rising
prices of groceries, housing and
1:20:34
childcare.
1:20:35
Feels like it's harder to live.
Everybody's scratching and
1:20:38
scraping just to live still,
1:20:40
some say they're finally
starting to feel a difference.
1:20:43
I feel like it's it's getting
better, and one of the biggest
1:20:47
risks to the economy, the port
strike has been resolved. For
1:20:51
now, shippers and dock workers
agreed to an almost 62% pay
1:20:55
raise, bringing longshoremen
back on the job, at least until
1:20:58
January, when they've agreed to
bargain again over automation,
1:21:01
ending the port strike critical
for the economy, and especially
1:21:05
for small business like three
moms organics.
1:21:08
This is such a relief that
knowing that this is been worked
1:21:12
out for at least now, takes a
lot of pressure off, especially
1:21:15
because
1:21:16
Adam Curry: three moms organic
so they get all their crap from
1:21:18
China. Is that? Is that why it's
so so good for no idea
1:21:21
Unknown: what they're going to
1:21:24
the timing also key as the
southeast picks up the thesis
1:21:28
after Hurricane Helene and will
need significant rebuilding.
1:21:32
Yeah,
1:21:33
John C Dvorak: there's a thing.
There was a thing in that report
1:21:35
where they said that
unemployment is 4.1% of 50 year
1:21:38
low in recent memory, we heard
3.1 3.5 3.4 3.6 all within the
1:21:46
last year, and now it's up to
4.1 how has that become a 50
1:21:51
year low? Also
1:21:53
Adam Curry: to say that wages
have kept in in a in check with
1:21:57
inflation is a blatant lie. I
mean, oh, if you're talking
1:22:02
about money printing inflation,
okay, but if you're talking
1:22:06
about the actual inflation of
prices, no, 4% is nowhere near
1:22:12
what you need. No, you need 20%
1:22:16
John C Dvorak: closer to it,
because they like to downplay,
1:22:20
you know, they have to keep
reminding people that inflation
1:22:23
is cumulative. Yes. So, yeah, it
comes down to say it's 2.1% but
1:22:28
it was already nine and eight.
It's all adds up. It's like,
1:22:32
they never show you, and they
show a graph. It goes down to
1:22:34
whatever it is. Look at the
lines. Look at it pretty. Lines
1:22:37
down. If you do cumulative,
1:22:41
Adam Curry: we're feeling it. I
mean, everybody feels it. No,
1:22:44
I've noticed
1:22:44
John C Dvorak: my my when I go
to the vegetable store, fruit
1:22:50
market, it's I used to pay for
the same old, same old stuff. I
1:22:54
always buy the same stuff. And
it was always like $30 and now
1:22:59
it's always $50 it's always
everything's 20 bucks more,
1:23:03
yeah? For minimum, people
1:23:04
Adam Curry: of Fredericksburg
don't even go downtown anymore.
1:23:07
You want to, you want a glass of
wine? 27 Bucks what?
1:23:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard
about some of these prices at
1:23:13
bars for it's liquor. It's just
like every time somebody tells
1:23:17
me one of these for a beer, like
16 bucks for a beer.
1:23:22
Adam Curry: Yeah. So we have
what we have a royalty in town
1:23:26
that probably here, Sir Mark and
Dame Astrid, the Grand Duke and
1:23:31
Grand Duchess of Japan, and all
the islands surrounding the
1:23:34
Japan Sea, disputed, disputed.
Yes, the disputed islands. And
1:23:39
so we're going out to dinner
tonight, and then tomorrow night
1:23:42
we're cooking for them here. So
I'm making them pick up the bill
1:23:45
for tonight. I can't afford it
anymore. I'm excited to see
1:23:52
them. Tina says I should take a
look at some of their
1:23:56
architecture. Yo, I haven't
looked at their portfolio
1:23:59
recently. Holy moly. I mean,
they did the Cartier store.
1:24:06
Well, that
1:24:08
John C Dvorak: would be the type
to do that. The stuff they do is
1:24:11
so beautiful. Design your back
porch. Sorry, have them design,
1:24:15
redesign your back porch. I
1:24:17
Adam Curry: can't afford them to
design anything for me. They're
1:24:21
going to come in. You just
wonder, what did two award?
1:24:24
Because they actually here
before they think they picked up
1:24:26
an award in Houston. And he has
an OBE for his architectural
1:24:32
work. He's like, almost an
actual Knight.
1:24:37
John C Dvorak: We're actual
knights.
1:24:39
Adam Curry: No, I mean British
night. You mean a British night?
1:24:42
Yeah, no, no, obviously they're
not just knights. They're Grand
1:24:46
Duke and Grand Duchess. They're
1:24:47
John C Dvorak: grand dukes. Much
bigger rank. Yes, much bigger
1:24:51
rank.
1:24:52
Adam Curry: But I'm just saying,
I think I'd come into our house,
1:24:54
and when you have these
architects who in the house,
1:24:56
they look around, go,
1:24:57
John C Dvorak: huh? Oh, yeah,
that's embarrassing. Person
1:25:00
exactly
1:25:01
Adam Curry: like, hmm, yeah, I
wouldn't have made that choice,
1:25:04
yeah, okay,
1:25:06
John C Dvorak: put the window
there like that.
1:25:09
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
1:25:11
courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in
1:25:14
the container automation, say
hello to my friend on the other
1:25:16
and the one and only, Mr. John C
tomorrow.
1:25:24
John C Dvorak: Good morning. You
Mr. Adam curry, the more ships
1:25:26
and sea blues, telegraphing, the
air, subsidy, water and all the
1:25:28
games and nights out there. In
the morning,
1:25:36
Adam Curry: we got 2255 at the
peak. 2255 at the peak. This is
1:25:41
why you say that's bad. It's low
200 it's low, it's low. We're
1:25:46
low 200 we're low 200
1:25:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it should
be 24
1:25:49
Adam Curry: Well, that's all
right,
1:25:50
John C Dvorak: not Thursday.
Well, it's
1:25:52
Adam Curry: a tough times.
People don't have electricity.
1:25:55
Can't even listen to
1:25:56
John C Dvorak: this. Well,
that's true. We do. We have lost
1:25:58
the southeast.
1:26:00
Adam Curry: Hey, we had a lot of
producers in the in the
1:26:03
Asheville area. Interestingly,
we did no no this, I'm getting
1:26:09
notes from people who are
interchanging notes with other
1:26:13
people. And actually, for the
first time, finding out that
1:26:15
they both listen to no agenda,
which is kind of Yeah, which is
1:26:19
kind of
1:26:19
John C Dvorak: always funny,
yeah, you do What? What?
1:26:23
Adam Curry: In the morning, in
the morning. So those trolls are
1:26:28
in the troll room, and they are
all listening live@trollroom.io
1:26:32
or you can go to no agenda, dot
stream. Either one works
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operation, though we come in on
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Thursdays and Sundays, and we
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1:26:43
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good, yeah, it only took, what?
1:27:36
18 months we're there. Finally,
the large language model. Years
1:27:41
the large language model has
figured it out. We run the show
1:27:45
value for value, which means
26th of October. It'll be 17
1:27:50
years that we have never had a
commercial. We've never taken
1:27:54
any corporate money. It's all
been time talent and treasure
1:27:57
from our producers, which we're
very proud of. This someone sent
1:28:02
me an early, early twit, a
couple of clips. I didn't keep
1:28:07
them. I have them, but I didn't
bring them to the show. Um, when
1:28:11
Leo was still at the brick
house, I guess he's busy back at
1:28:15
the brick house now. Or, uh, no,
he's at home. He's in the
1:28:18
garage. And you were on the
show. We were talking about
1:28:22
different business models of
podcasting, and it was so early,
1:28:27
we weren't doing this show yet.
And no, I remember
1:28:33
John C Dvorak: during the
cottage era when we weren't
1:28:35
doing the show, but I think by
the time the brick house came
1:28:38
around, we will
1:28:39
Adam Curry: show it may have
been the cottage and maybe it
1:28:41
wasn't the brick house. And you
guys were talking about, well,
1:28:47
what are the possible models?
And well, and Leo is like, Oh,
1:28:50
well, you know, we'll get enough
money for advertisers. That'll
1:28:53
happen eventually. And there was
a lot of talk of donations. And
1:28:56
it was kind of like, well, you
know, we can easily get everyone
1:28:59
to donate $4 dollars. It never
works. And we started that way
1:29:06
too 17 years ago, like, hey, why
don't you? No, no, it doesn't
1:29:10
work. When you ask people just
to send you value for the value
1:29:13
received or the program. It's
amazing what happens. And I'm
1:29:17
it's a revolutionary thought,
and I'm surprised that more
1:29:20
people have not really picked up
on it. I mean this, there is,
1:29:23
you
1:29:23
John C Dvorak: have to, have to
be lectured on it. I lectured
1:29:26
people on this because they all
say the same thing that what you
1:29:29
just expressed, which as well.
You know, I got, I got 10,000
1:29:34
listeners. And if all of them
somehow, by the way, try 1% to
1:29:38
think in those terms, yes, a
little closer to reality. Uh, if
1:29:43
all of them gave me four bucks a
show, that would be $40,000 a
1:29:47
show. And I do a show a week
that's enough to get, I'll make
1:29:51
a lot of money, and it's like
you won't get that's never going
1:29:55
to happen,
1:29:57
Adam Curry: no. So we just only
have
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: 10. 1000, and you
leave it wide open so they can
1:30:02
donate what they want. Could be
four, could be 10, could be 100
1:30:07
could be 1000 there are people
that have enough disposable
1:30:11
income that they will gladly
give you $1,000
1:30:14
Adam Curry: yeah, and that is
because Val value is different
1:30:18
to them. That's what makes it so
beautiful. And also people can
1:30:22
just give us time and talent.
We, I don't think we have. We
1:30:25
ever built a website for this
show? I can't, I can't recall
1:30:30
ever building a website. Oh
1:30:31
John C Dvorak: yeah,
dvorak.org/in
1:30:34
Adam Curry: a we don't, we don't
have the password anymore, so we
1:30:37
don't talk about that one. We
1:30:38
John C Dvorak: don't talk about
dvorak.org/and I still play
1:30:43
that. I
1:30:43
Adam Curry: still play the
jingle at the end, just to irk
1:30:45
you, because one day
1:30:46
John C Dvorak: I just put it
forwarding. Oh, please.
1:30:49
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Will you
have that done by the next show?
1:30:52
It's so easy. You
1:30:54
John C Dvorak: just admit it. Is
this working? I can't hear
1:30:57
Adam Curry: what you lost the
password. Just admit it. Hello.
1:31:03
Put a blink tag in there. I'd be
very impressed.
1:31:07
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
think the blink tag works
1:31:08
anymore. It doesn't. They got
rid of pretty sure it doesn't.
1:31:12
They
1:31:12
Adam Curry: deprecated the blink
tag. I think they took it out.
1:31:15
That's no good. Yeah, I'd
1:31:18
John C Dvorak: rather have a
run. I like it where you have
1:31:19
the running cat going from one
side of the page to the other.
1:31:22
That's my favorite good times.
The cat running back and forth.
1:31:27
And then there's a mailbox that
spins and opens and closes. And
1:31:32
remember the little red flag
goes up
1:31:33
Adam Curry: and down? Don't you
remember the under construction
1:31:36
sign? Oh,
1:31:37
John C Dvorak: this is still
around the
1:31:40
Adam Curry: little yellow and
black construction wood. Our
1:31:46
website's coming. It's under
construction. We're building it.
1:31:49
Yes, we're building it anyway.
So no, we haven't done that. And
1:31:53
one of the many ways that people
contribute is through providing
1:31:57
us of new album art for each and
every single episode, which is,
1:32:01
looks great in the in the
rundown of podcasts. It looks
1:32:04
great for promoting the show. It
gives people a kick, and it's a
1:32:08
fun little competition. And we
have some very serious I cleaned
1:32:11
up the studio the other day, and
I found Mike Riley books. And
1:32:15
just, we have so many, like the
we have a pro comic guy who
1:32:19
just, like, high end,
1:32:20
John C Dvorak: oh, we have a
couple of high end comic guys,
1:32:23
couple of them,
1:32:23
Adam Curry: and as like this.
And I keep all that stuff, of
1:32:26
course, so they,
1:32:27
John C Dvorak: those guys don't
give us the art for the
1:32:29
Adam Curry: show. No, no, no,
no, they don't, but, but that's
1:32:31
the level that we have. Boy used
to, he used to, I, you know, I
1:32:36
put that in a box, and I'm like,
one day when I'm dead, my
1:32:39
daughter's gonna come in here,
like, I gotta clean out this
1:32:42
junk and throw it
1:32:43
John C Dvorak: out. Exactly what
this is to say. It might be
1:32:47
worth something, but some guys
scribble his name all over it.
1:32:50
What good is that?
1:32:52
Adam Curry: What are all these
coins? What are these coins of
1:32:54
all this different stupid coins?
These coins are no good. I got
1:33:00
stickers. I got all kinds. I can
just see her now, bring out one
1:33:05
of those containers boys get rid
of this junk anyway. NOAA Art
1:33:11
generator.com. Is the website we
can upload and participate in
1:33:15
this contest, which takes place
twice a week, and we want to
1:33:19
congratulate the artist who
brought us the artwork for
1:33:22
episode 1700 of course, it was a
big episode for us, and
1:33:27
Francisco Scaramanga nailed it.
1:33:30
John C Dvorak: Who hates us? By
the way, I don't understand that
1:33:33
he really hating art.
1:33:35
Adam Curry: By the way, 1700 was
titled turban tossing. And I
1:33:39
think we should keep an eye on
that, because that will be, that
1:33:43
will be the way the next it will
be the turbine tossing
1:33:46
revolution in Iran. And we'll
be, we have a boots on the
1:33:49
ground from a dude named Bahamut
coming up after we thank some
1:33:53
people here. So Francisco had an
automated containers, two robots
1:33:58
carrying a shipping container,
had 1700 on it. It was very
1:34:03
traditional Scaramanga color
palette. I would say he has this
1:34:07
kind of color palette with his
greenish background the letters
1:34:12
that have that little what is
the look I'm looking at here?
1:34:17
It's kind of washed out a
little. That's not the right
1:34:21
term. Are you looking at it?
1:34:24
John C Dvorak: Uh, I've got the
old look at it. What you're
1:34:28
talking about? What is this guy
talking about?
1:34:31
Unknown: What am I talking Yeah,
he
1:34:32
John C Dvorak: does have a is a
pasteli pastellian.
1:34:36
Adam Curry: That's what he is.
Yeah, he's
1:34:37
John C Dvorak: a pastellian. And
so he's got the blue sky is kind
1:34:40
of a pastel blue, pastel orange
containers, kind of a pastel
1:34:44
orange, yes, and that's good.
And then and the 17, yeah, it's,
1:34:49
it's got that, what would you
call that dirty, grungy, grungy,
1:34:56
dirty,
1:34:56
Adam Curry: grungy look, grungy,
1:34:57
John C Dvorak: dirty numbers
that have been. Wore, shop worn,
1:35:01
yes,
1:35:01
Adam Curry: and I can tell you
right now what I'm seeing coming
1:35:04
in for this episode. We're going
to be looking for an evergreen
1:35:08
once we said no Star Trek stuff.
Everyone gave up.
1:35:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it seems
like there's nothing here.
1:35:15
Adam Curry: So keep trying. The
artists, they do this while
1:35:18
they're listening live, which is
the beautiful thing about it.
1:35:20
There was she. Was there
anything else with a lot of
1:35:22
butts, a lot of 1700 a lot of
cheesecake? Was there anything
1:35:28
else that we like, I kind of
like, Nico sign signs, the
1:35:33
strike signs. But there was just
no doubt about it. Francisco
1:35:37
scaramangas piece was prettier.
Was Was it made scary manga
1:35:41
species nailed it nailed. No
agenda, Art generator.com, and
1:35:44
you can see many of these pieces
of art flying by in the
1:35:47
chapters. And if you if you're
in the car, if you're using
1:35:50
Android Auto or CarPlay, and you
plug it in, it'll change on your
1:35:56
dashboard. It's kind of fun.
It'll distract you while you're
1:35:58
driving. Thank you again.
Francisco Scaramanga. Now we
1:36:01
want to thank the people who
brought us the treasure, part of
1:36:04
the 3t of value for value, time,
talent, treasure, the executive
1:36:07
and Associate Executive
producers. We also still have
1:36:10
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1:36:19
certificate as I still might
1:36:21
John C Dvorak: probably get
yours this week, okay, and then
1:36:24
before Thursday show, so make
sure you get a picture of you.
1:36:26
Yeah, showing it off, and
1:36:29
Adam Curry: it has a seal, and
it has a has a ribbon. It's one
1:36:33
of the best designs yet. I'm
very excited to see it, and very
1:36:36
excited to hang it on my wall.
So we'd like to thank our
1:36:38
executive and Associate
Executive producers, very
1:36:41
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1:37:20
Yeah,
1:37:20
John C Dvorak: it came in late,
yeah. I mean, it came in by
1:37:23
mail, so he just missed it. So
we had to know what we can put a
1:37:26
show donation on this show. Oh,
yeah, we have to, yeah. No, it
1:37:30
has to be show donation. Yes, it
is. We, yeah, just put it on 17,
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Adam Curry: course, of course.
And this is from baronettis,
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Central Oregon, $1,700 on a
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John Adam, thanks for 1700
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please
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John C Dvorak: Up next from
Cincinnati, Ohio, for $1,500
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No uh. Grant Schuler, greetings.
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Thanks for what you guys do.
Here's a try Commodore donation.
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That's interesting. I like to
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Adam Curry: It's like a it's
like a tricorder
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John C Dvorak: for the special
1701 Star Trek show first. Let
1:38:55
me be known simply as Commodore
G I'd like to give two Commodore
1:38:59
ranks, one to my brother,
Commodore Clark, who hit me in
1:39:02
the mouth during the pandemic.
Well, good for him, and one to
1:39:07
his faithful canine companion in
Indy, uh, let her be known as
1:39:13
Commodore Indy the white
Shepherd. Oh, all right. Again.
1:39:16
Go to, uh, no agenda rings.com
and put this information in
1:39:21
there so you can get it shipped
to the right place. Also, for
1:39:26
all those in the Cincinnati,
Ohio area, a shout out to my
1:39:30
brother's business, Central
Bank, doggy daycare.
1:39:34
Adam Curry: Bark. Bark bank. Try
that. Read again.
1:39:42
John C Dvorak: Said central bark
doggy daycare in the Madeira
1:39:48
Indian Hill area. It's a dog
care reimagined with enrichment
1:39:55
daycare reimagined with
enrichment daycare lectures
1:39:59
about. Communism, grooming,
luxury boarding and much, much
1:40:04
more, a wonderful place with a
staff who just love to pamper
1:40:09
your pup all day long. Come by
and check it out.
1:40:13
Adam Curry: I'm surprised most
of these luxury places also
1:40:16
advertised that they had that
they stream the dog channel
1:40:20
24/7, in the kennel. Does Mimi
have that? No, it's a big thing.
1:40:26
John C Dvorak: We don't have TVs
for the dogs.
1:40:29
Adam Curry: You'd be surprised.
It's a big thing. Now they're
1:40:32
streaming the dog channel. But
1:40:35
John C Dvorak: some dogs with,
you know, ever since people
1:40:37
should always kind of remember
this, that before the LCD
1:40:41
screen, dogs couldn't see TV.
That's right, that's a good
1:40:46
point, because it was flickering
at a 6030, cycles per second,
1:40:51
and it was just bits and pieces
that our eyes, human eyes, could
1:40:54
piece it together look like an
image, when, in fact, it wasn't
1:40:57
that. If you anyone ever took a
photo of a TV screen, you can
1:41:00
see what, what's really going
on, just a splash of something.
1:41:05
And dogs are stays. They
couldn't see the the images
1:41:09
weren't built into the dog eyes.
So they wouldn't watch TV. They
1:41:13
couldn't even cats. So when the
LCD screen came out, this is
1:41:17
useless information, no, when
the LCD screen came out,
1:41:20
riveting, dogs and cats will
watch TV.
1:41:24
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
good news. In some places they
1:41:29
eat the dogs. In other places
they let them watch TV. They're
1:41:32
eating the dogs. Duke of San
Francisco comes in with 690,
1:41:37
6.33, and says, I the Duke of
San Francisco have learned of
1:41:42
the Lake Tahoe, submarine Tahoe,
submarine base, and the
1:41:46
protection of the bay is now
paramount to the defense of our
1:41:48
great nation.
1:41:49
Unknown: I've got information,
man, new shit has come to light.
1:41:53
He
1:41:53
Adam Curry: requested that
jingle, I shall patrol the bay
1:41:55
with Sir, lavish and
recalcitrant Steve to keep our
1:41:58
shores safe. When at sea now
ready for war. I shall be
1:42:03
Commodore, dude, named Ben,
named Ben, and we shall make it.
1:42:07
So I'm glad you're doing that
the certificate. Okay, yeah.
1:42:11
Well, change the font.
1:42:14
John C Dvorak: Change the font.
Onward with Ron Cooper, and he's
1:42:20
in Flanagan. No, no, sorry,
Baron. I'm sorry. Baron sir dude
1:42:24
named Ralph in Miami, Florida,
615 82 from Baron sir dude named
1:42:30
Ralph Miami, 500 for Commodore
donation. $85 for show. $1,730
1:42:36
for the PayPal fees. Thank you
very much.
1:42:39
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Wow.
PayPal. Ron Cooper, Flanagan,
1:42:43
Illinois, 533 dot 33 says, I
need a double D, douche. Why did
1:42:52
why do people think that need a
double you've been deduced,
1:42:59
showered lately. Love listening
to you. What are you drinking?
1:43:03
Same? Topo Chico Chico, love
listening to you every week. My
1:43:06
birthday is October 6. I'm
turning 54 and what better
1:43:09
present than becoming Commodore
Cooper followed both of you from
1:43:13
Adams, MTV days and John's
cranky geeks. See you in
1:43:17
Fredericksburg. Ah, October 18.
Go karma. He says, You got it
1:43:21
wrong. You've
1:43:21
Unknown: got karma.
1:43:26
John C Dvorak: You have to read
the next one because it's too
1:43:28
long.
1:43:31
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. This is
from Sir 1% ITM fellows and
1:43:38
getmo nation. I am back with a
donation of 1% of my gross
1:43:41
business revenue to send sad
puppies scurrying away and claim
1:43:45
my promotion to Viscount the
honor of Commodore of Dixie
1:43:49
Washington. And if I'm gonna
read, you can't be blowing your
1:43:52
nose, or you gotta mute, it's
disgusting. And to ask
1:43:55
John C Dvorak: that disgusting
life, is it disgusting? Yeah,
1:44:00
Adam Curry: because you can just
hear it flying out of your nose,
1:44:05
John C Dvorak: not like I'm
doing it like a baseball guy
1:44:07
sporting on this on the ground.
1:44:09
Adam Curry: It's similar. It's
it's unbecoming, okay? And ask
1:44:14
that myself and President
Vladimir Putin be added to the
1:44:17
birthday list. Since we share
the same birthday, on Monday, I
1:44:20
will be hitting 49 I also want
to use this occasion to thank
1:44:24
those on the socials how I refer
to Mastodon for short, okay, who
1:44:30
helped me attempt to win Best
pest control service provider in
1:44:33
a local newspaper's recently
concluded Readers Choice poll.
1:44:37
Unfortunately, I do not have
news of a victory. However, I do
1:44:40
not know if that's because of my
business, Z pest control LLC did
1:44:44
not win. A strange thing has
happened. Nominated businesses
1:44:48
were invited to an awards dinner
and a minimum ticket cost of
1:44:51
$138 don't you lose? Who? Don't
you Yeah, don't you understand
1:44:57
that these are scams that.
That's the whole point of these
1:45:01
things, even the the Podcast
Awards. Now the whole, the whole
1:45:06
idea is you, you pay your money
and then and you pay to enter.
1:45:12
So I'm sorry that you, you got
snookered at the event, which
1:45:16
was live streamed and recorded.
Dozens of categories disappeared
1:45:19
from the presentation pest
control included.
1:45:23
John C Dvorak: Oh no,
1:45:24
Adam Curry: this is a travesty
of epic proportions. The list of
1:45:30
winners has not yet been
published, but I now suspect
1:45:33
that if no nominees from a
category bought tickets and
1:45:35
their category was eliminated
votes and all this poll may have
1:45:38
been nothing more than a scam by
the newspaper to score cash on
1:45:42
the names of other businesses.
Oh, well, life is a scam. Thank
1:45:46
you gentlemen for your tireless
work shining light and all the
1:45:48
BS out there. Jingle requests.
JCD, spooky, donate. George
1:45:54
Bush, Jr, just send your cash
and Biden whole load faithfully
1:45:59
supporting your exit strategy,
1% at a time, sir Dr, 1% Baron
1:46:04
turning Viscount of lieberland,
Dixie, Washington. I know a lot
1:46:07
of people want to send blankets,
sir water. Just send your cash.
1:46:11
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today.
1:46:16
You've got Donate. Donate.
Karma.
1:46:25
John C Dvorak: Eric Curtis in
Pleasant Ridge, Michigan, 500
1:46:29
bucks, no note, no nothing. So
he gets a double up karma.
1:46:34
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:46:39
Adam Curry: Baronet fly not is
from Meredith, New Hampshire,
1:46:42
500 he says, Congrats on 1700
jobs. Karma for all. I hired
1:46:47
Linda Lou patkin In q3 of 2023.
And just got a sweet new gig.
1:46:53
Her connections on LinkedIn are
pretty amazing for a resume that
1:46:57
gets results use image makers
inc.com, that's image makers,
1:47:01
Inc, with a k.com question,
what's your take on Mike Benz?
1:47:05
Do you have a take on Mike Benz?
1:47:07
John C Dvorak: I don't really
you do.
1:47:09
Adam Curry: I do. I think Mike
Benz is spot on. Unfortunately,
1:47:14
he usually takes 40 minutes to
make the point, and I think most
1:47:17
people have already kind of
drifted off and lost interest.
1:47:21
He is so detailed, and he almost
seems frustrated that people
1:47:25
don't understand what he's
saying. But I agree with almost
1:47:29
everything he says. But even
when you talk about the so
1:47:33
called blob, I just think he's
got to find a shorter way to
1:47:37
explain what he's saying. He
needs an editor. Onwards towards
1:47:41
Baron, regards, Baronet, fly,
not of the open maps,
1:47:44
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Karma.
1:47:53
John C Dvorak: Tyler hooker in
Arcata, California, 500 and this
1:47:59
is switcheroo. Make a note this
donation of 500 and the
1:48:03
accompanying Commodore title of
practically crap. Proper crap,
1:48:11
practically perfect, I can't say
it practically perfectly is a
1:48:16
71st birthday gift for Donna
Jean Hooker from her son, Tyler
1:48:23
and her daughter on her daughter
in law. Then Danielle Hewitt,
1:48:28
please deduce her and add her to
the birthday list for October 7.
1:48:33
She's on the list. Also, please
know that no agenda kept all of
1:48:37
us sane and together throughout
the covid madness. Happy
1:48:43
birthday. Mom jingles biscuit on
my birthday. They always
1:48:47
Unknown: give me a biscuit on my
1:48:49
Adam Curry: you've been deduced.
By the way, I would hope we're
1:48:54
keeping you sane throughout
these insane times as well. You
1:48:58
know, there's a lot going on in
the world, and the media is
1:49:00
definitely affecting everyone's
amygdala one way or the other.
1:49:04
So bring it back to size. Media
1:49:05
John C Dvorak: is no good.
1:49:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's that's
the easy way of saying it. Media
1:49:13
is no good. Am I? Am I not
mistaken, but I think it is
1:49:19
time, ladies and gentlemen, I
present
1:49:22
Unknown: the Grand Duke of the
Pacific Northwest, sir Dwayne
1:49:26
melon song,
1:49:27
Adam Curry: there he is. Sir
Dwayne melon song, Grand Duke of
1:49:30
the Pacific Northwest, $500 ITM,
gentlemen, economy, karma for us
1:49:35
all, that's jobs, jobs, jobs,
plus goats, please. And I don't
1:49:40
know if he wants a Commodore
ship. He hasn't mentioned it,
1:49:42
but I would hope so. So I and
1:49:45
John C Dvorak: he listens. He
knows to go to no agenda rings
1:49:47
calm and fill out the form
1:49:49
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs that's those are
1:49:57
jobs. Karma. You.
1:50:00
John C Dvorak: Sir Robertson of
the two sticks in DOS, Paulos,
1:50:03
California, two sticks. ITM sir
Robertson with two sticks,
1:50:08
requesting Commodore status.
Also a Trekkie NCC, 1701 dash D
1:50:15
enterprise, thank you for your
courage and go podcasting. I
1:50:21
dinged.
1:50:23
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. Soap
soaps. Soap soaps, Peyton,
1:50:29
Colorado, 500 switcheroo,
Commodore donation for my better
1:50:33
half credit. Ep to Tabitha
soaps. I got an email from her
1:50:37
the other day. Tabitha soaps put
that in here. Okay, got your
1:50:42
switch. Rudone, uh, bringing her
to Dame status. She shall be
1:50:46
known as Dame Tabitha, keeper of
awesomeness, cowboy killers and
1:50:50
Calvados for the round table.
It's been ordered. We'll see her
1:50:54
there. Thank you.
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: Brian telecki in
Lincoln Nebraska came in a
1:50:59
little late for the last show he
came in for show 1700 but it was
1:51:02
after the show had begun, yeah,
$500 within he says, Dear John
1:51:07
and Adam, I love this Commodore
promotional idea for show 1700
1:51:12
after witnessing the Vanderbilt
University Commodores defeat the
1:51:16
town that was that's just, oh,
this. This is a new note,
1:51:19
because this happened just
yesterday, defeat. This is a
1:51:23
ridiculous football situation
for people out there who follow.
1:51:27
I
1:51:27
Adam Curry: know, right. It was
crazy.
1:51:34
John C Dvorak: Okay, got felt
sports after witnessing the
1:51:37
Vanderbilt University Commodore
defeat of the top ranked, number
1:51:41
one Alabama, Crimson Tide.
Saturday night, I know I needed
1:51:45
to donate for those who who
don't know college football.
1:51:49
Adam, this is an extremely rare
victory. In fact, Vandy was oh
1:51:55
and 60 in previous attempts
against top five ranked teams.
1:51:59
Jingle request, Reverend Al
respect, the F 35 guy and goat
1:52:03
karma.
1:52:09
Unknown: ESPI, CT,
1:52:16
you've got
1:52:19
Adam Curry: karma. That guy's
great. Ah, now we move to 343,
1:52:24
75 so these are not Commodores,
but these are executive
1:52:27
producers. Sir Tiktok tunes is
in Roswell, Georgia. He says,
1:52:31
I'm Sir Tiktok tunes. Night of
the loud voices. Congratulations
1:52:34
to you both. First executive
producer donation, thanks to an
1:52:37
unexpected windfall, thanks for
the masterful media
1:52:42
deconstruction. Pot calling,
kettle, don't look over here. I
1:52:47
gotcha. Hello,
1:52:50
Unknown: kettle. This is the pot
calling
1:52:52
don't look over here. Nothing to
see here.
1:52:55
John C Dvorak: Look at that.
Nice. You know where the term
1:52:58
windfall comes from.
1:53:00
Adam Curry: I do not
1:53:02
Unknown: fruit orchards.
1:53:04
Adam Curry: Oh, so, so the
windfall would have more fruit
1:53:07
dropping on the ground.
1:53:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah? The big
wind comes in and dull bunch of
1:53:11
fruit drops. So you don't go
pick it and you load up and you
1:53:14
can sell the Yeah, the windfall
1:53:16
Adam Curry: fruit orchards in
where, in Georgia, in
1:53:18
California, everywhere, anywhere
there's a window. But, I mean,
1:53:21
what? But where did who first
coined the term windfall?
1:53:24
John C Dvorak: Well, now you're
asking me questions I can't
1:53:26
answer. Well, don't come to the
trying to stump me. Well, don't
1:53:28
come to the table you were to
come through. I don't have the
1:53:31
etymology. I don't have the
exact name of the orchard and
1:53:34
the poor guy who had the
windfall profit.
1:53:36
Adam Curry: And, well, well,
1:53:37
John C Dvorak: I'll take a look.
SDG, in Oakland, California, 340
1:53:41
and this is 170 This is an
interesting donation. It's 170
1:53:45
times two over four for shows,
1700 Oh, we got mathematicians
1:53:53
out there.
1:53:55
Adam Curry: Very impressive.
Umpers United, Ubers united.
1:54:01
That's y, O, O, P, E, R, S,
eopers United from Gurney,
1:54:05
Illinois, 333 dot, 30 thank you
for your exceptional show.
1:54:08
Signed. Uppers united. I wonder
who these jupers United guys?
1:54:13
John C Dvorak: I don't know, but
they seem to be in Illinois.
1:54:15
Take a look, sir. Kevin dills in
Huntersville, North Carolina,
1:54:18
330, 3.33. And he says, God
bless North Carolina and God
1:54:22
bless North agenda. Please pray
for us, Sir Kevin dills, Duke of
1:54:26
North Carolina, yes.
1:54:29
Adam Curry: Eupers United is a
place to find volunteer
1:54:31
opportunities. Interesting.
Hubers united, thank you.
1:54:36
John C Dvorak: Look it up.
1:54:38
Adam Curry: Then we go to Zach N
in Los Angeles, California, our
1:54:43
first Associate Executive
Producer with 283 36 shout out
1:54:47
Toba gentlemen, wishing you, Oh,
this one came in late. Wishing
1:54:51
you both a huge congrats on show
1700 and happy and healthy New
1:54:55
Year from one of no agendas.
Proud token Jews. Yeah.
1:55:00
Apologies for the late donation
as I was conspiring on a World
1:55:03
Takeover with my fellow Jews
last night at Rosh Hashanah
1:55:06
services.
1:55:07
John C Dvorak: Another fail. You
1:55:09
Adam Curry: failed again, Jews.
I'm also proud to announce my
1:55:13
knighthood has been achieved.
Please. Knight me, Sir Nanuk of
1:55:16
the West, I request apples and
honey. That's a that's a Rosh
1:55:20
Hashanah favorite and grassed
grass finished. Rib eyes and
1:55:23
chocolate babka at the round
table. What's a babka? Bob
1:55:27
chocolate, bobca. Bobca.
1:55:28
John C Dvorak: Isn't that a
Russian dessert of some sort?
1:55:31
Adam Curry: That's babushka. No,
that's a babka babushka. No,
1:55:36
that's the doll.
1:55:38
John C Dvorak: Babushka doll.
It's a great babushka means
1:55:41
grandmother, yes,
1:55:42
Adam Curry: okay. But Bob cook
anyway, this show is one of the
1:55:45
greatest blessings in my life,
and I thank you both and all the
1:55:47
producers for their continued
work. Karma for all thank you
1:55:51
from Zach N,
1:55:53
Unknown: you've got karma.
1:55:58
John C Dvorak: Wyatt varums are
worms, worms. Varums gotta be
1:56:03
worms, worms, I think. And he's
in Phoenix, Phoenix Oregon. I
1:56:08
didn't know there was a Phoenix
Oregon. $210.95 Hello, Jess. My
1:56:13
name is, was called on on show
1700 by Commodore Brent Smith
1:56:18
from Legrand, Oregon. Pretty
sure I'm not that Wyatt, but I
1:56:22
will apply anyway. You got
called out. He
1:56:24
Adam Curry: got called out, and
he just he said, my name is
1:56:26
Wyatt, so I might as well jump
in. I love it,
1:56:29
John C Dvorak: but I will oblige
anyway. I need recovery karma
1:56:32
for my broken leg after an
accident in March. Broken leg,
1:56:36
yeah, that's bad. Thank you both
so much, and may you never find
1:56:39
an exit strategy. Wyatt verms,
thank
1:56:42
Adam Curry: you very much,
Wyatt, you've got
1:56:44
Unknown: karma,
1:56:46
Adam Curry: and I will do
Michael day from Fouquet Varina,
1:56:51
who invest in North Carolina.
And so we hope all is well.
1:56:54
There $200 no note, so he gets a
double up karma. And for all
1:56:58
there as well,
1:57:01
Unknown: karma, and
1:57:03
John C Dvorak: last on our list
is Linda lupatkin in Lakewood,
1:57:06
Colorado, $200 also. And she's
requesting, believe it or not,
1:57:10
she's requesting jobs karma, and
says for a resume that gets
1:57:14
results. Visit imagemakers
inc.com for your go to, your go
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to for all your executive resume
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of jobs and writer of resumes,
jobs,
1:57:31
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
karma.
1:57:39
Adam Curry: And according to
mutter in the troll room, babka
1:57:42
is typically made with a yeast
leave and dough that's rolled
1:57:44
out and spread with a filling,
such as chocolate, cinnamon,
1:57:47
fruit or cheese, then rolled up
and braided before baking. It's
1:57:52
popular in Israel. Jewish
Diaspora, we could have known
1:57:57
that it's Jew food,
1:57:59
John C Dvorak: Jew food that and
gefilte fish,
1:58:03
Adam Curry: oh, man, that I
can't understand. I mean, I can
1:58:08
eat raw herring, no problem.
Gefilte fish, no, that's just
1:58:11
nasty.
1:58:14
John C Dvorak: Test. Yes, you
get tests. You failed. Yeah,
1:58:16
Adam Curry: yeah, I failed for
sure. Thank you very much to our
1:58:19
executive and Associate
Executive and Associate
1:58:21
Executive producers and our
Commodores, who will be honored
1:58:23
later on. We appreciate it.
We'll also be thanking everybody
1:58:26
over $50 and remember any
donation helps, even a
1:58:29
sustaining donation, which you
can find and enter at no agenda
1:58:32
donations.com thank you again to
our executive and Associate
1:58:36
Executive producers of 1701, our
1:58:38
Unknown: formula is this, we go
out, we get people in the mouth.
1:58:58
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of WTF clips that are political.
1:59:02
Okay, good. This is Harris in
North Carolina. One
1:59:10
Unknown: Okay. Vice President
Harris surveyed damage from
1:59:13
Hurricane Helene in North
Carolina. Emperor says muhallid
1:59:17
has more
1:59:18
in North Carolina. HARRIS
praised first responders and
1:59:21
volunteers on the ground for
doing God's work. The
1:59:24
work that is happening here and
that continues, really is the
1:59:27
best of what we can do to bring
federal, state and local
1:59:31
resources together. Federal
1:59:33
hurricane recovery efforts are
becoming politicized in this
1:59:36
campaign cycle. Wait
1:59:37
Adam Curry: a minute. She didn't
say they were doing God's work,
1:59:41
John C Dvorak: exactly then why
did,
1:59:43
Adam Curry: and why did this
woman say, and what is this
1:59:46
from? Is this NPR? What is NPR?
And why did she then say was
1:59:50
being politicized? Because
1:59:52
John C Dvorak: she's
politicizing it right there.
1:59:54
What
1:59:55
Adam Curry: a horrible woman.
I'm
1:59:57
John C Dvorak: glad you caught
that immediately.
1:59:58
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm like God's
work. Yeah, go Jesus. What?
2:00:03
John C Dvorak: Nothing about
God. She's an atheist. Come on,
2:00:06
she's
2:00:06
Adam Curry: a communist. Marxist
is the opposite. Be
2:00:10
John C Dvorak: a good communist.
You do. Here's part two. The
2:00:12
Unknown: Republican presidential
nominee has criticized the Biden
2:00:16
administration and made some
false allegations about the
2:00:18
government's response to the
disaster. Harris did not
2:00:22
publicly speak to the
misinformation during her trip,
2:00:25
but while she was in North
Carolina, the White House issued
2:00:28
a statement about, quote,
fighting hurricane Helene,
2:00:31
falsehoods with facts Asma
Khalid, NPR news,
2:00:34
John C Dvorak: what Wait, what
fall. What is he? What's she
2:00:38
talking about? The same woman
now she's saying that there was
2:00:41
false information without
telling us what it was. Well,
2:00:44
that's, oh, Trump's saying false
information.
2:00:47
Adam Curry: Well, what is this?
Just like a throwaway report.
2:00:49
They just do this 22 seconds
from time to time on NPR. Just
2:00:53
throw it in there.
2:00:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's just
so they can slam Trump. Oh, man,
2:01:00
Adam Curry: very strange.
2:01:02
John C Dvorak: If we want to
play weird clips, I still have,
2:01:04
Adam Curry: I don't really, I
don't. Oh, okay, good. Well,
2:01:07
John C Dvorak: let's play a
couple. Well, no, you had,
2:01:09
you're on board. Well, no,
2:01:10
Adam Curry: I want, I want to
talk about Iran and Israel and
2:01:13
all the important things in
life.
2:01:16
John C Dvorak: Iran. I've got an
Israel clip, but it's not going
2:01:19
to follow whatever you have to
do. Okay?
2:01:21
Adam Curry: Backgrounder, and if
you really want to know what the
2:01:23
intelligence community thinks,
you got to bring in Richard
2:01:26
Engel from NBC, Iran, Supreme
2:01:29
Unknown: Leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei led Friday prayers in
2:01:33
Tehran today for the first time
in more than four years. He said
2:01:38
Iran is ready to strike Israel
again, if necessary, to drive
2:01:42
home the point, the 85 year old
cleric clutched an assault rifle
2:01:47
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is at war with Iran's
2:01:51
network of allies. The main
battleground is Lebanon against
2:01:55
Hezbollah, which has been
attacking Northern Israel with
2:01:58
rockets for nearly a year. In
response, the group says to
2:02:02
Israel's war on Gaza, Beirut is
now rocked by Israel day and
2:02:08
night here, Israel targeted what
an official said was a meeting
2:02:13
of Hezbollah leaders in southern
Lebanon. Israel is trying to
2:02:18
carve out a buffer zone free of
Hezbollah Israeli strikes are
2:02:22
taking their toll here. The city
of Tyre, one of the biggest
2:02:25
cities here in southern Lebanon,
has effectively been evacuated.
2:02:29
There's very few civilians left
here. Hezbollah has taken a
2:02:32
beating in recent days, but the
group remains intact, and every
2:02:36
day down here, we have seen and
heard outgoing fire. Lebanese
2:02:40
officials say 1400 people have
been killed in Israel. Prime
2:02:45
Minister Netanyahu and his war
cabinet are still deciding how
2:02:49
and when to respond to Iran's
missile attack. That decision
2:02:53
will be felt across the Middle
East and beyond.
2:02:55
Yeah,
2:02:56
Adam Curry: this is the big one.
Now, how is Israel? Israel? How
2:03:00
are they going to respond?
They're going to blow up the
2:03:02
oil. They're going to blow up
the the nuclear. Are they going
2:03:05
to do nothing? Are they going to
just blow up some more pagers,
2:03:08
some more radios? What's going
on?
2:03:10
John C Dvorak: I think we should
have a betting pool.
2:03:13
Adam Curry: Well, let's, let's
see what Trump has to say.
2:03:17
Unknown: They asked him, What do
you think about Iran? Would you
2:03:20
hit Iran? And he goes, as long
as they don't hit the nuclear
2:03:24
stuff, that's the thing you want
to hit, right? I said, I think
2:03:28
he's got that one wrong. Is that
the what you're supposed to hit?
2:03:31
I mean, it's the most it's the
biggest risk we have, nuclear
2:03:34
weapons, the power of nuclear
weapons, the power of weaponry.
2:03:38
You know, I rebuilt the entire
military jets, everything I
2:03:41
built it, including nuclear. And
I hated to build the nuclear,
2:03:45
but I got to know firsthand the
power of that stuff. And I'll
2:03:48
tell you what, we have to be
totally prepared. We have to be
2:03:51
absolutely prepared. But when
they asked him that question,
2:03:54
the answer should have been, hit
the nuclear first and worry
2:03:57
about the rest later. And that's
why they should if they're going
2:04:01
to do it.
2:04:02
Adam Curry: I like how Trump
kind of interchanges nuclear
2:04:05
power with nuclear bombs and,
you know, just this whole back
2:04:09
and forth. And of course, nobody
wants to, nobody wants to hit
2:04:13
the oil, because then the oil
will skyrocket, and that's going
2:04:17
to need that aggravation that's
going to hurt Biden short term
2:04:20
and Trump long term, because no
matter what he does then, his 18
2:04:24
month promise won't happen if
they blow up some Iranian oil
2:04:29
rigs and refineries or whatever,
that's no good. So the question
2:04:34
is, CNN poses to former US
ambassador to Syria and Israel,
2:04:43
is is this political anyway?
Political is Netanyahu taking
2:04:48
advantage of some political
cycle going on in America, sir?
2:04:52
Unknown: What do you believe
2:04:54
our prime minister, Benjamin,
Netanyahu? Imperatives here and.
2:05:00
I think my sense what's his
thought trajectory? Central
2:05:02
question is, is the Israeli
Prime Minister taking advantage
2:05:07
of the fact that there is this
heated we are in the heated
2:05:10
final days of a US presidential
election? Is he pushing forward
2:05:15
more aggressively, in part
because of that?
2:05:20
Absolutely Casey. I think that
he feels he has a relatively
2:05:25
open field because of our
upcoming presidential elections,
2:05:29
it's very difficult for the
Biden administration, on the
2:05:32
cusp of a very tight
presidential race, to alienate
2:05:37
certain important constituencies
on our country, both the
2:05:42
American Jewish vote the Arab
American Arab vote in battle
2:05:49
ground states. So he knows the
American political scene very
2:05:54
well, like the back of his hand,
and I think he is taking
2:05:57
advantage of the inhibitions of
the Biden administration to be
2:06:01
more assertive in reining in
what he has been doing in really
2:06:08
asking for total military
victory in Gaza and now
2:06:12
attacking Beirut and southern
Lebanon. So that, obviously is a
2:06:18
consideration it is in his
personal interest to continue
2:06:22
the warfare into certain
measures.
2:06:25
Adam Curry: Well, that was
totally boring. I'm almost I'm
2:06:27
also
2:06:28
John C Dvorak: a minute in my
life. I'll
2:06:30
Adam Curry: never get back
longer. Was a minute and a half
2:06:32
John C Dvorak: so. But I did use
the term I unless you slipped it
2:06:36
in thought trajectory.
2:06:38
Adam Curry: I slipped. I
slipped. I clicked in thought
2:06:41
trajectory, please, because the
stupid Casey Hunt is like
2:06:47
thought trajectory is what you
just want to say. I'll read the
2:06:51
you know, our our theory, our
working theory, which can
2:06:54
change, but our working theory
is, this is all part of the
2:06:58
West. Clark seven. The idea is
to get Iran. We already have the
2:07:01
turban tossing happening. We
need regime change, and some of
2:07:05
the players may already be dead,
if not, they are on the hit
2:07:10
list, very similar to what
happened with Hezbollah and the
2:07:14
exploding the pagers was one
thing, I think, the the tactical
2:07:17
radios that really took out
some, some dudes who are
2:07:20
important. So speaking of dudes,
we have a boots on the ground
2:07:24
from dude named Muhammad. He's
in the region. And would you
2:07:28
explain why we put so much
weight on his reports?
2:07:36
John C Dvorak: Oh, he's the OG
dude named Muhammad. For one
2:07:39
thing, if it's the same guy, and
he I, he seems credible. I don't
2:07:44
know what you're wanting me to
say
2:07:46
Adam Curry: about how they how
people talk in the region. Oh
2:07:51
John C Dvorak: yes, they gossip
a lot. If you go, if you're in
2:07:53
the Middle East, and you go to a
cafe or even hang out with a rug
2:07:57
salesman in Turkey, all they do
is, is gossip about politics.
2:08:04
100% of the time they it's like,
it's on, it's like what we once
2:08:08
in a while, oh, don't talk
politics at the dinner table.
2:08:11
Oh, no, that's not the case in
the Middle East. No, that's all
2:08:15
you talk about.
2:08:17
Adam Curry: So we are thinking,
is that what you were looking
2:08:19
for? Thank you. I'll cut out the
part where I explain my
2:08:23
question. No one will ever know.
We
2:08:26
John C Dvorak: edit this show
down to nothing. The post that
2:08:28
goes into the show is
unbelievable. No one ever
2:08:30
Adam Curry: knows ITM gents,
here's my humble analysis of the
2:08:33
situation, having a good
understanding of the region US
2:08:36
and international affairs. It
seems that this is ramping up to
2:08:39
cleanse all Iranian proxies
before January 2025, this
2:08:45
explains the Trump Netanyahu
meetings, which are at Mar a
2:08:48
Lago, and will give both
something to brag about. Trump
2:08:51
ending a huge conflict from day
one and Netanyahu emerging like
2:08:56
a national hero. This will
revive a new Abraham accord with
2:09:01
friendly neighboring countries.
We've already heard Bibi talk
2:09:04
that way towards the Iranians.
Minimal threats for new
2:09:07
beachfront properties and
shining pipelines Hezbollah will
2:09:11
be completely eliminated. And I
believe there will be a new
2:09:13
leadership in Lebanon could be
supported by the Lebanese
2:09:16
military, which will guarantee
support by Gulf nations for
2:09:19
stable and friendly Lebanon,
Syria, on the other hand, will
2:09:23
most likely end with a military
coup, with a friendly military
2:09:27
leadership, just like Lebanon.
The same will be repeated in
2:09:30
Yemen. Iraq is already halfway
there with a couple of militias
2:09:34
to be pushed aside, and no
strong or charismatic leader for
2:09:37
the proxies in this part of the
world, people look for a
2:09:40
singular leader, and the proxies
lost a lot of them recently
2:09:43
during this Abraham accord. 2.0
stage, Iran will be isolated,
2:09:47
sidelined and ready to be
internally rebelized through
2:09:52
turban tossing and Tiktok
videos. Turban tossing and
2:09:59
Tiktok video. It's too long for
a title, but that's basically
2:10:02
it, and that will finally end
the West Clark seven. You know,
2:10:07
I was thinking about this. It's
a good note. It's a great note,
2:10:12
because it, you know, and you
kind of have, if you add Putin
2:10:15
and and Ukraine to the mix,
let's just, let's just take a
2:10:20
look at what happened since 1991
in American foreign policy. In
2:10:27
91 the Wall came down. The
Soviet Union ended. And I think
2:10:31
from that moment, the United
States, you know, the
2:10:34
government, was like, Yeah, we
run the world now. We don't need
2:10:39
anybody. But there's no one's
around. Putin. There's no guy to
2:10:41
do anything. Russia's weak. They
got nothing. So in 1992 Paul
2:10:46
Wolfowitz creates a defense
policy for Cheney, who was,
2:10:51
then, some people don't remember
this. He was the Secretary of
2:10:54
Defense for Bush one. Then we
get Clinton in 1994 a Democrat
2:11:00
now. So of course, everything's
going to change. Sure NATO would
2:11:04
expand to Ukraine. That actually
became public in 97 despite who
2:11:08
we had promised, Gorbachev, and
before that, Yeltsin was we're
2:11:11
never going to expand NATO.
Don't worry about it. Yeah, it
2:11:14
was a promise by Jim Baker, and
then who came in as Secretary of
2:11:17
State under Bill Clinton,
Madeleine Albright, another fine
2:11:22
specimen in 1998 Clinton already
had published the policy
2:11:28
document to replace Saddam
Hussein through regime change.
2:11:31
But don't worry, we'll get to
that later. Then we have the
2:11:34
first war in Europe after World
War Two, which people don't
2:11:37
really want to credit it with.
That was the 1999 bombing of
2:11:41
Serbia again. Madeleine Albright
Clinton, wasn't she out there
2:11:45
saying, hey, if we got to kill
some children, it's okay. I
2:11:48
recall her saying something like
that,
2:11:50
John C Dvorak: and I recall the
errant missile that found its
2:11:53
way into the Chinese Embassy and
blew it to smithereens. Yes,
2:11:58
Adam Curry: no. She said that
later, she said later here she
2:12:01
said,
2:12:01
Unknown: we have heard that half
a million children have died. I
2:12:05
mean, that's more children than
died when in Hiroshima. And, you
2:12:12
know, is the price worth it?
2:12:14
I think this is a very hard
choice, but the price, we think
2:12:18
the price is worth it. Uh huh.
So
2:12:20
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
Madeleine Albright.
2:12:22
John C Dvorak: Great clip.
Ready? Yeah, that's
2:12:24
Adam Curry: Madeleine Albright.
2:12:25
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one.
2:12:26
Adam Curry: No, at the time
during the Clinton, Bill
2:12:29
Clinton, our sax playing boxer
wearing Bill Clinton, Democrat
2:12:34
president who was number two in
the State Department Russian
2:12:37
policy. Come on, everybody. It's
an easy question to answer.
2:12:41
Victoria Newland, yes, she was
in there, 1999 so then we get
2:12:46
bush in after the disaster. She
was thin and kind of pretty. She
2:12:50
Well, in an odd kind of way.
Yeah, she was so then we have
2:12:55
Bush coming in 2001 he came in,
of course, in January, before
2:12:59
911 but don't worry, there's
only a couple months. This is
2:13:02
George W Bush. Newland then
becomes Deputy National Security
2:13:07
Advisor for who was the vice
president. Oh, there's Cheney
2:13:12
again. Oh, what a surprise, of
course. Then we read of the
2:13:16
Project for the New American
Century subtitle, rebuilding
2:13:20
America's defenses, we get 911
whatever happened? How that
2:13:25
happened? WTC, seven won't go
away. And this became the public
2:13:31
relations move to start all of
the wars. Of course, we know
2:13:34
West Clark seven, the big ones
by 2003 we needed to have Iraq,
2:13:39
Syria and Iran in 2004 This
isn't discussed very much. Seven
2:13:45
more countries join NATO,
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia,
2:13:50
Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia and
Slovenia. Remember, no
2:13:54
expansion. Russia. Na now, who
is ambassador to NATO in 2005
2:14:02
you? You'll never get who?
Victoria Newland. Oh, my God,
2:14:06
you're kidding. Then we have in
2008 well, that Bush was no
2:14:11
good. Let's bring in our hope
and change. Here's President
2:14:14
Obama, and who becomes Secretary
of State under Obama, Hillary
2:14:20
Clinton, and who was the
spokeshole for the Secretary of
2:14:23
State. Hillary Clinton, ah,
Victoria Nuland. She gets a lot
2:14:28
of work she does. Then we
switched out Hillary for
2:14:32
watermelon head Kerry and
Newland became Assistant
2:14:36
Secretary of State and the point
person on Ukraine. So then 2014
2:14:42
Victoria Newland coordinates the
coup that we have her on the
2:14:46
phone call f the EU, hey Clark,
and
2:14:49
John C Dvorak: then with our CIA
director, somehow, for some
2:14:53
reason, in Ukraine, hanging
around eating donuts and
2:14:57
Adam Curry: cookies and oh,
we'll bring in. Biden, he'll,
2:15:00
he'll, he'll, he'll deliver.
He'll midwife this thing. He'll,
2:15:04
he'll lube the baby. It's all
going to be great. Who else
2:15:07
enters the scene? Sullivan,
Blinken, so we got the whole
2:15:12
team in there. Now, Trump comes
in in 2016 and I, I mean, I
2:15:19
think he was, he was still kind
of perpetuating this policy by
2:15:25
reluctantly, I guess, but
eventually sending arms to
2:15:29
Ukraine, though not of the
nuclear variety. And he thought
2:15:33
he had a pretty bragging about
it. And he thought he had a
2:15:36
pretty good relationship with
with our dancer over there, our
2:15:40
actor, Zelensky. And right away,
you know, of course, it was a
2:15:45
horrible phone call, and he's no
good, and they went crazy over
2:15:50
Trump not wanting to do what
they wanted him to do. But he
2:15:53
did relent a little bit. So then
we get 2021, Biden. Remember, he
2:15:58
helped over overthrow Ukraine,
all kinds of shenanigans with
2:16:03
this kid. And again, Sullivan
and blink, and everybody's in.
2:16:07
Putin even tries to get a peace
treaty. Oh, let's send him.
2:16:10
Boris Johnson to intervene. It's
the same policies, the same
2:16:14
people. And again, Newland got
promoted. She was on point for
2:16:18
the war of 2022 Biden calling
for regime change in Russia. And
2:16:23
now, do we understand and do we
find it strange or not that Dick
2:16:29
Cheney endorses Kamala Harris
2:16:33
John C Dvorak: this? Wow, this
like a shaggy dog story. That
2:16:36
was good. Thank
2:16:36
Adam Curry: you. Thank you. This
2:16:37
John C Dvorak: is the reality. I
was waiting. You were waiting.
2:16:40
You're waiting. Where's
2:16:41
Adam Curry: he gonna end it? He
better end it. Now.
2:16:44
John C Dvorak: I was thinking,
where's he going with this? I
2:16:46
thought it might be something,
just a minor thing, but to bring
2:16:48
it back to Cheney, that's it,
and him endorsing Kamala Harris,
2:16:52
which is an abomination for any
Republican at his level,
2:16:56
exactly. Yes, congratulations.
That's one of the best tales
2:17:00
you've told so
2:17:00
Adam Curry: far, when a rare
compliment,
2:17:04
John C Dvorak: it was a good was
worth complimenting. It was
2:17:07
good. Yes, indeed, in fact, that
you nailed it. Thank you. And
2:17:10
our den, our dude named people,
our feet on the ground are named
2:17:13
Muhammad. And everyone knows
this is going on. Anyone who's
2:17:17
got a clue knows this is going
on. And then people in the
2:17:21
Middle East, generally speaking,
can see through a lot of this
2:17:24
stuff.
2:17:25
Adam Curry: I remember I was in
Holland, and it was Bush one,
2:17:32
and who was he running against?
2:17:36
John C Dvorak: Who was the
Dukakis? Was it one? Yes, yeah,
2:17:38
yes. I think was that the caucus
in the tank, that's it.
2:17:42
Adam Curry: And I remember
being, you know, my buddy Ben,
2:17:44
Ben Cohen, who had the swarma,
the swarma joint in Amsterdam.
2:17:49
We, I used to talk about him
back in the day. You may not
2:17:51
remember, I don't remember. And
I and, well, this is before we
2:17:54
were doing the show. No, you
definitely won't remember that.
2:17:57
No, but I talked about him many
times after. It doesn't matter.
2:18:00
And that was, you know, I was
young, I was on TV, I was
2:18:03
popular. I'm like, Yeah, I'm in
teen beat magazine. All,
2:18:07
John C Dvorak: you're a hot
Tiger. I'm a hottie. I'm
2:18:10
Adam Curry: a hottie. Yes, I'm
the heartthrob of the week in
2:18:14
the Dutch Tiger. Now you're 60,
yeah, don't get me started,
2:18:18
Jason.
2:18:19
John C Dvorak: Now you're the
same age as walls.
2:18:23
Adam Curry: I'm actually, I
think I'm a little older than
2:18:24
walls.
2:18:25
John C Dvorak: I think he's that
guy looks like he's 90, so
2:18:28
you're in good shape. And so
2:18:29
Adam Curry: this is kind of a
hat tip to our dude named
2:18:32
Mohammed, so Ben and his
brother, I learned a little bit
2:18:36
of Hebrew, you know, because he
was a real Israeli. Now, Shiro
2:18:40
team, all these important words,
I ate apples with honey on Rosh
2:18:45
Hashanah and but he and his
brothers were always talking
2:18:51
about politics, always, always.
And I couldn't understand most,
2:18:54
but I picked up a lot along the
way. And I remember on because
2:18:59
why you do it for a living? Yes,
always had the TV on, always on,
2:19:04
CNN and so. And I knew nothing
about the world. I knew Tina
2:19:10
Turner, David Bowie, I was on
top of that world. I knew
2:19:13
nothing about was happening. And
there was a bush, I think either
2:19:17
after I can just remember I'm in
his living room like he says,
2:19:20
there's that Bush who said,
Yeah, I think it'll be good for
2:19:22
America. And he looks at me, his
head whips around, what he's the
2:19:26
biggest criminal in the world.
Don't you know that he owns all
2:19:29
the oil? And I was so I'm like,
Really, I had no idea. And I
2:19:36
think most of the world is like
that still today. Watch the
2:19:40
Today Show, read your People
Magazine, and so yes, people in
2:19:47
the region have known this
forever and have discussed it,
2:19:50
and it's been withheld from us,
and still no, it has to
2:19:54
John C Dvorak: be withheld from
us. And just as a little extra
2:19:57
room to be withheld.
2:19:58
Unknown: Hello. Mm, hmm. And
2:20:00
Adam Curry: along the site the
same sidetrack. And now you kind
2:20:03
of understand why Victoria numes
is so beside herself about
2:20:07
Putin, because she was part of
the you know, we, we, we own the
2:20:12
world. We are the world. We are
the children. We are running the
2:20:15
show this and what, what is this
guy? He's ruining it, not just
2:20:18
that is a troublemaker. We were
raping that. We were raping
2:20:21
Russia. We had everyone was in
there making money. Good. We
2:20:25
were, yeah, but we thought
everyone got kicked out.
2:20:28
Everyone did. Everyone's
paycheck got slashed. And you
2:20:32
know, it was,
2:20:33
John C Dvorak: it was the NGOs
kicked out. All the connections
2:20:36
to the oil industry kicked out.
It
2:20:38
Adam Curry: was a great Gambit
while at last. And then this,
2:20:40
this Putin guy came in and
ruined it. And you remember how
2:20:44
Biden, and we've forgotten about
it, but the narrative was, all
2:20:49
right, CIA, you know, if you're
in Russia, you can contact the
2:20:52
CIA, you can work for us. And
Putin, oh, he's got cancer. He's
2:20:56
got Parkinson's. He's not gonna
last.
2:20:58
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, he got
into a train wreck. He's almost
2:21:00
dead. You got a broken back. He
2:21:04
Adam Curry: doesn't look good.
It's no good. There's
2:21:06
John C Dvorak: a million things
wrong with Putin. Yeah,
2:21:08
Adam Curry: they can't even do a
proper regime change anymore.
2:21:11
You know why? Because the
Russian people like him. They
2:21:13
actually like us. The Russian
people like Yeah, we like you
2:21:17
guys. How are you doing? Good
guys? Doing America. Send some
2:21:19
more MTV our way. We love
Europe, Dr Pepper and
2:21:23
McDonald's. We just changed the
name McDonald's the ski,
2:21:28
McDonald's ski. So we're not
falling for this nonsense,
2:21:32
which, just as an aside, started
33 years ago. Just throw out a
2:21:37
little magic number for you.
2:21:40
John C Dvorak: There you go.
That's a it was a good little
2:21:43
exposition there.
2:21:44
Adam Curry: Thank you. I have a
surprising clip here. Since you
2:21:48
brought this in the last week,
the third hour of the CBS This
2:21:54
Morning. Is that? What it was?
That horrible
2:21:56
John C Dvorak: CBS This
morning's new third hour with
2:21:58
the with the two ding bats, and
they, and one of them, by the
2:22:02
way, the guy, Dokka Pol, or
whatever his name is, is married
2:22:05
to Katie tur, really, and he's
had a vasectomy, and he brags
2:22:10
about it. Does he look like a
lesbian? And not yet, for fairly
2:22:14
research, so he will totally
look like a lesbian coming. It's
2:22:17
coming. And he and I was looking
him up to do some background on
2:22:21
him and Katie Tur was way it
seems that she was raised by two
2:22:24
lesbians. Well,
2:22:26
Adam Curry: her dad is trans,
well, okay, and,
2:22:31
John C Dvorak: and her middle
name is bear, bear B, E, A, R,
2:22:37
huh, Katie bear turd. Katie
bertur, there's an
2:22:44
Adam Curry: interesting
documentary about her dad. He
2:22:48
was a very famous chopper pilot
journalist in Los Angeles, and
2:22:52
then one day he decided, all
right, now I want to wear a
2:22:54
dress. I'm a chick, yeah, it's a
very it's things on
2:22:59
John C Dvorak: YouTube. But then
he married, yeah, but he, I
2:23:01
think, Well, I think she's
estranged from him, yeah,
2:23:04
because she's estranged from
one, she's
2:23:06
Adam Curry: a transphobe.
2:23:09
Unknown: She is,
2:23:10
Adam Curry: yeah, she knows she
she likes it when it happens to
2:23:13
little kids. She doesn't like it
when it happens to her own
2:23:16
family. That's, that's what I
said. No, that's, well, that's
2:23:18
pretty that was my takeaway.
That was my takeaway from the
2:23:21
documentary. It was, I had seen
this. It's on Netflix. Maybe
2:23:25
I've seen I was like, this is I
had no idea, yeah, oh, she, she
2:23:29
completely shunned him, yeah,
uh, yeah. So what was the point
2:23:35
of Katie Turner? I
2:23:36
John C Dvorak: don't think
daughters in general like the
2:23:39
idea of their dad not being
their dad forever. Yeah?
2:23:46
Adam Curry: Witness Bruce Jenner
and the Kardashians. They kicked
2:23:51
him out of the house. Go live in
your own house. Anyway, they
2:23:57
were having trouble explaining
how airplanes work.
2:24:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah. What's an
airfoil? Well, turns airplanes,
2:24:04
it's a mystery. It's a mystery
how they fly.
2:24:07
Adam Curry: Turns out, this is
indeed a mystery. This is from
2:24:12
the Scientific American podcast.
You know, Scientific American,
2:24:16
John C Dvorak: but which and the
Scientific American around 1985
2:24:20
I think or 86 went woke the
magazine has been downhill ever
2:24:25
since, and it basically stinks
2:24:29
Adam Curry: and they can't
explain so this doesn't surprise
2:24:32
me. They can't explain how it
works, either.
2:24:35
Unknown: How do planes stay in
the air? Not even Einstein could
2:24:37
figure that one out. After
devising his general theory of
2:24:39
relativity, he turned to a
different problem, how plants
2:24:42
fly. He even designed his own
wing called the cat's back wing,
2:24:45
but when it was tested, the
unimpressed pilot reported that
2:24:48
it flew like a quote, unquote,
pregnant dunk. Yeah, that seemed
2:24:52
to have been the last time
Einstein grappled with
2:24:54
aeronautics. From there, he
focused on other things, like
2:24:57
finding a unified theory of
everything, which apparent. Was
2:25:00
easier than figuring out how
planes fly. Now, make no
2:25:03
mistake, we do actually
understand how heavier than air
2:25:05
flight works quite well. There
are two classical theories, each
2:25:09
is correct in application, but
neither fully explains flight
2:25:12
without leaving some unsightly
loose threads. They are
2:25:15
incomplete. The first dates to
1738, via the mathematician
2:25:18
Daniel Bernoulli, who modeled
air as a fluid, Bernoulli
2:25:22
postulated that a fluids
pressure decreases as its
2:25:25
velocity increases, and vice
versa. So when air flows over a
2:25:29
curved wing, it moves faster
over the top than the bottom.
2:25:32
That generates lift. But
bernoullis theory did not
2:25:35
adequately explain why planes
can still fly inverted, or why
2:25:39
their wings can work even when
they're flat and not curved at
2:25:42
all. The second theory of flight
traces back to our good friend
2:25:45
Isaac Newton and his classical
mechanics. Every action has an
2:25:48
equal and opposite reaction,
right? Well, air has mass, and
2:25:51
so when air is displaced by a
wing cutting through it, other
2:25:54
air rises up underneath it, and
that is lift. Newton's theory
2:25:58
very nicely explains what
bernoullis Couldn't like why
2:26:00
inverted flight works and why
Wings of many different shapes
2:26:04
can still let you fly, but it
doesn't fully explain why
2:26:06
there's a region of low pressure
atop the wing during flight,
2:26:10
regardless of its shape. In many
respects, modern approaches to
2:26:13
modeling and explaining heavier
than air flight trace back to
2:26:15
these two competing classic
ideas. The problem is that real
2:26:18
world systems are messy and
complex and defy being squeezed
2:26:22
into a shortly simple
explanation like this video. So
2:26:26
where does this leave us? Well,
it may be true that not even
2:26:28
aeronautical engineers fully
understand how planes fly. Rest
2:26:32
assured, they understand well
enough to make flying in one
2:26:35
very safe and very routine. I
find
2:26:37
Adam Curry: it interesting that
Scientific American was able to
2:26:41
explain how WTC seven fell, but
they can't explain why airplanes
2:26:46
stay in the air.
2:26:52
John C Dvorak: I find this whole
thing somewhat anti
2:26:54
intellectual. Yes, these
discussions that all of a
2:26:59
sudden, why are they even
talking about this. We know how
2:27:01
they fly airfoils. And, yeah,
you could say plane can fly
2:27:06
upside down if it has enough
power. I mean, a rocket flies it
2:27:10
doesn't have an airfoil. Well,
you go, how's that work?
2:27:14
Adam Curry: Here's something I
did not know until just
2:27:16
recently, Fredericksburg, Texas
native Jacob Brodbeck. Brodbeck
2:27:24
who moved to Fredericksburg from
Germany in 1846 in 1860 he flew
2:27:35
with an airplane with a wing.
Now this is 44 years before the
2:27:41
Wright Brothers, with their
Kitty Hawk design, and a model
2:27:45
of this airplane is at the
Gillespie airport, FBO. Now it
2:27:52
only he only flew for 100 feet
until he crashed into his
2:27:55
brother's chicken coop. But he
did fly before the Wright
2:27:59
brothers, and they used the same
he had the wing design. He had a
2:28:04
he had a he had a giant spring,
so that where the Wright
2:28:07
brothers had a, you know,
bicycle mechanism where they
2:28:10
were pedaling, he had just a
prop with the spring. So went,
2:28:14
and then it crashed, but it
flew.
2:28:19
John C Dvorak: Bobby doggone,
yeah,
2:28:20
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
that's why we celebrate him. He
2:28:25
never got the recognition he
deserved.
2:28:28
John C Dvorak: Frederick's
pretty common and everything,
2:28:30
you should find some predecessor
to pretty much any invention,
2:28:36
yeah,
2:28:36
Adam Curry: like podcasting.
Hey, man, I invented
2:28:40
John C Dvorak: some point,
they've been trying to cut you
2:28:43
out as a picture Forever,
forever, if it wasn't for me,
2:28:48
Adam Curry: that's right, and I
promoting you. I appreciate it
2:28:51
on the Wikipedia relentlessly. I
might add on the Wikipedia for
2:28:55
podcasting. There's people like,
No, I was I? I digitized my
2:29:00
radio shows on cassette and put
them on the internet, and I
2:29:04
invented podcasting. Yeah, yeah,
there'll be a lot of that. Oh,
2:29:08
there is a lot of that. It's
okay. There's no check in this,
2:29:12
by the way, in case you just
there's, there's no check,
2:29:15
there's only the honor and even
that, even that's taken away
2:29:18
from
2:29:18
John C Dvorak: me. They tried to
anyway. Yes, they did. Let's
2:29:21
play a couple of tick tock
clips. Oh,
2:29:23
Adam Curry: why not? It's has?
It's been way too long since
2:29:26
I've had some tick tock clips.
2:29:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these, I
love these tick tock clips,
2:29:29
because tick tock is really the
voice of the voice of the
2:29:32
people,
2:29:33
Adam Curry: the voice the voice
of the people. Yes. And as we
2:29:36
know, tick tock and and turban
tossing will take down the
2:29:40
Iranian regime.
2:29:43
John C Dvorak: I have two, okay,
I have the I have what's called
2:29:46
a says, bland man, but it's a
black man. He's a black guy, and
2:29:50
he's just speaking. Sheryl
Hodge, I sent this to Mo and
2:29:53
he's he said, Yeah, well, yeah,
people have a clue something.
2:29:57
What
2:29:57
Adam Curry: did why did you send
this? Mo and what did you think
2:30:01
John C Dvorak: of this guy?
2:30:04
Unknown: If I were a rich white
racist that hated black people,
2:30:07
this is what I would do. I would
handpick young black boys,
2:30:10
mostly from single mother
households who want to be
2:30:12
rappers, and pay them millions
of dollars to make music geared
2:30:15
to destroying the black
communities. I would make young
2:30:18
black women become dependent on
government assistance, but only
2:30:20
if there's no father in the
home. I would dump drugs into
2:30:23
poor black communities,
incentivize them to sell it and
2:30:26
use it to cope with their
problems, then put them in
2:30:28
prison. I would turn black women
against black men, making them
2:30:30
disrespect them and hate them. I
will use black celebrities,
2:30:33
daytime TV, magazines and media
to help push this. I will then
2:30:37
poison their food and make it
cheap so that poor blacks can
2:30:40
afford to buy it, which will
slowly kill them off. Then I'll
2:30:42
implement liberal politicians
and celebrities. They'll sell
2:30:45
them truthful sounding lies.
They'll pretend to relate to
2:30:48
them. They'll make them think
that Republicans are only for
2:30:50
the rich and we're for the poor,
even though we live in big
2:30:53
houses and safe neighborhoods
far away from you poor blacks.
2:30:56
And for my final trick, I'll cut
them off at the source. I'll
2:30:59
stop them from reproducing. I'll
make abortion their Get Out of
2:31:02
Jail Free card. I won't even
have to kill Black people. I'll
2:31:05
just stop them from ever being
born. And now make sure black
2:31:08
women have abortions at a much
higher rate than white women.
2:31:11
They'll never suspect a thing,
because we'll make up some
2:31:14
catchy slogan, something like,
my body, my choice. Yeah,
2:31:19
that'll get them. We'll keep
them broke, emotional, childless
2:31:23
and fatherless, and the best
part is they'll still vote for
2:31:27
us.
2:31:32
Adam Curry: Well,
congratulations. You just summed
2:31:34
up 100 episodes over 350 hours
of mofax with Adam curry in one
2:31:39
minute and 28 seconds, that's
2:31:41
John C Dvorak: yeah, so he felt
this is similarly,
2:31:43
Adam Curry: I'm sure he did
2:31:47
John C Dvorak: so, so that was
that. And I the other one I
2:31:50
have, which is, you know, over
the dinner table this last week,
2:31:54
we had JC lamenting, and I think
it was backed up by pretty much
2:31:59
everybody. You can't hire Gen Z
people because they're they're
2:32:05
asocial, they're they're not
socialized correctly. They're
2:32:08
dumb. They don't know that you
should show up for work on time.
2:32:11
They're they feel that they
should be getting more money
2:32:15
than they're getting. And it's
just the whole thing is a mess.
2:32:18
And I thought that this woman
and her quarters lament, uh,
2:32:23
pretty much exemplify what I
would think was a Gen Z dummy.
2:32:28
Unknown: Here's a I'm an idiot,
and here's why my laundry
2:32:32
machine takes quarters
naturally. I'm like, Where does
2:32:38
one just get quarters? So I'm
like, Okay, I'm gonna go on
2:32:41
Amazon buy quarters. You can
buy, like, rolls of quarters on
2:32:46
Amazon. I'm like, perfect. I'll
do that. I'm just like, 72 rolls
2:32:53
for $10 that the math doesn't
equal up, but that's a score.
2:32:58
Like, I'm getting
2:32:59
1772
2:33:01
rolls of quarter sleeves and
quarters in them for $10 like,
2:33:07
I'm like, okay, stupid Amazon.
Zoe money. Get the package
2:33:14
empty.
2:33:16
It's just
2:33:16
72 plain quarter roll sleeves
with no quarters in them. I
2:33:25
don't really know what I was
thinking.
2:33:33
Adam Curry: I just went to
Amazon. You can buy $10 worth of
2:33:39
quarters 2024, uh, uncirculated
quarters, I will say 2499
2:33:52
and yes, 999, for 72 piece
performed, coin wrappers.
2:33:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she figured
that the rappers came with the
2:33:59
quarters in them for 999, no,
the math doesn't make sense, but
2:34:05
they're taking a beating. I'm
all I'm all in this kind of
2:34:09
idiocy is beyond not
2:34:11
Adam Curry: all Gen Z are
idiots. John and many of them,
2:34:14
listen to our show.
2:34:15
John C Dvorak: No, we have no
there. There's no such thing as
2:34:19
an all idiot generation. It's
just that there's too many of
2:34:23
them. And the people, the ones
who listen to our show, who are
2:34:26
sharp, I'm assuming, I think
most of them are, yeah, they all
2:34:30
agree with this.
2:34:35
Adam Curry: They don't vote, so
it doesn't matter.
2:34:37
John C Dvorak: So California's
got the plastic bags. I got a
2:34:40
plastic couple clips of the
plastic bag. You know, we had
2:34:43
made plastic bags illegal? Yes,
yes. And then we made them
2:34:47
illegal again. Why did we make
them illegal again? We made them
2:34:50
illegal in 2017 2018, and, well,
2:34:54
Adam Curry: I thought you made
so can you use paper bags?
2:34:56
You're not allowed to use paper
bags. No. Paper
2:34:58
John C Dvorak: is fine papers.
But we used to always have paper
2:35:01
bags before this the plastic
bag. Are
2:35:04
Adam Curry: they completely
outlawed? Or can you pay to use
2:35:07
them?
2:35:08
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, this is
this all covered in the story.
2:35:10
10 years
2:35:11
Unknown: ago, California
approved the first statewide ban
2:35:14
on plastic bags. And then
something unexpected happened
2:35:18
over the years, the state
reported more plastic grocery
2:35:22
bags and landfills now
California is trying again with
2:35:26
a new law NPR. Bill Chappell has
been reporting on this story.
2:35:30
Hey, Bill, Hey, glad to be here.
So Bill, walk us through this
2:35:33
new California law. What does it
do? Exactly? Well,
2:35:37
starting in 2026 when customers
go to a grocery store or lots of
2:35:42
other retailers, they're going
to have less options than they
2:35:45
used to have. They're going to
need to pay at least 10 cents
2:35:48
for a paper bag, or put stuff in
a reusable bag, or just carry it
2:35:52
out in their hands.
2:35:54
As we mentioned, California
already had a ban. So what went
2:35:58
wrong with it?
2:35:59
The state was trying to ban the
single use, thin bag that
2:36:02
everybody has seen and likely
used. But stores could give
2:36:08
shoppers different plastic bags
for a small fee, just 10 cents,
2:36:12
but those bags were thicker, and
in theory, they were reusable,
2:36:17
but in practice, that became an
even bulkier type of bag waste.
2:36:21
So
2:36:22
those thicker plastic bags were
like some sort of loophole for
2:36:25
grocery stores or something.
2:36:26
Well, that's how it kind of
played out. You know, this law
2:36:30
was first passed in 2014 and
then there was this long delay
2:36:34
of getting it actually in force.
What basically happened was
2:36:39
these thicker bags sort of came
on the scene during that delay,
2:36:43
is my understanding. And the
state's recycling agency
2:36:47
CalRecycle, says nearly 100,000
more tons of plastic bags went
2:36:52
into landfills in 2021 than in
2018 so if the overall goal was
2:36:57
to cut down on how many of these
bags were going to landfills, it
2:37:01
totally did not work. I blame
that. I blame Californians. You
2:37:05
guys are polluting the earth.
You horrible calories.
2:37:08
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
argue this point with you. This
2:37:10
Adam Curry: is no good. What
2:37:11
John C Dvorak: you're doing.
Stupid idea of banning the
2:37:13
little bags in the first place,
and they get nothing but these
2:37:16
thick bags, which are now double
use, but you can use them over
2:37:18
and over, but nobody does that.
They just throw them out,
2:37:21
Adam Curry: yeah? Where you used
to pick up dog poop and then
2:37:23
throw it out?
2:37:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah? Well, here
we go at Part Two, explaining
2:37:26
Unknown: just a bit more. Ban
also took place just before the
2:37:30
covid 19 pandemic came in,
experts started wondering, like
2:37:35
trying to figure out how the
coronavirus was spreading,
2:37:37
reusable bags were actually
banned from grocery stores for a
2:37:40
while because there was a fear
that bags could spread covid 19.
2:37:45
Okay, so forgive me, but what is
so bad about plastic bags?
2:37:50
The plastic bag industry says
These bags are recyclable, but
2:37:54
that has been something that's
been said for years and not done
2:37:58
for years. So when I talked to
Cal Recycle, the state recycle
2:38:01
agency, they told me they had
not identified facilities that
2:38:04
recycle plastic bags in the
state of California. So these
2:38:09
bags are, you know, they're
thin, they're soft, they're
2:38:11
really hard to process. They
tend to jam up equipment, and
2:38:15
that gets really expensive to
fix, and shuts down a line where
2:38:18
people have to go in and
manually, like take stuff out.
2:38:21
So California officials are just
saying there's a public
2:38:25
perception in some quarters that
plastics can be recycled really
2:38:30
easily, but they're saying
that's just not the case.
2:38:32
And how does this ban fit into
the bigger fight against, you
2:38:36
know, just plastic waste in
general,
2:38:39
there's a lot of momentum right
now for taking responsibility
2:38:42
off of consumers and shifting it
toward companies like toward
2:38:46
plastic producers and oil and
gas giants like ExxonMobil that
2:38:50
derived the polymers. So
Governor Gavin Newsom signed
2:38:54
this bill into law in late
September, and the day after
2:38:57
that, California's Attorney
General sued ExxonMobil, saying
2:39:01
the company has been deceiving
people for years about how
2:39:04
recyclable plastic even is. So
this ban doesn't start to affect
2:39:09
people in stores until 2026 so
there's time for the landscape
2:39:13
to shift some more between now
and then.
2:39:15
Oh brother,
2:39:17
John C Dvorak: Welcome to
California.
2:39:19
Adam Curry: You know, I, I'm,
I've stopped saying it. I mean,
2:39:22
you're gonna go down with that
ship. You're gonna go down
2:39:25
you're going down with that ship
since, oh, well, it's
2:39:28
John C Dvorak: not going down
yet. Since
2:39:29
Adam Curry: they brought up, uh,
covid In the beginning of that
2:39:31
clip, I've been waiting to do
this. And by
2:39:33
John C Dvorak: the way, that
that was a reminder that, if you
2:39:35
remember, there it is of covid,
if you touch something, you were
2:39:38
gonna die. Yeah. And it was, I
remember, going to a grocery
2:39:43
store, and then people all
masked up in this woman with her
2:39:47
husband, and he grabbed some
some hamburger buns or
2:39:50
something, and she screamed at
him. Somebody may have touched
2:39:54
those that packaging, and they
were just freaked out over the.
2:40:00
And this is the era when you
have to remember the people
2:40:02
wearing the mask, the visor and
blue gloves. Remember these
2:40:08
guys? Yes.
2:40:11
Adam Curry: I mean, I only
remember them from pictures
2:40:13
because they were in your in
your land in California. No,
2:40:17
John C Dvorak: you had them too.
No. Well, Austin, for sure,
2:40:22
Adam Curry: Austin, yeah, I
remember the day when I was
2:40:24
like, I was so sick of I'm not,
I'm going into whole foods
2:40:27
without a mask. I remember that
day and and no one seemed to
2:40:32
care. Just one other guy looked
at me he didn't have a mask, and
2:40:35
went, hey, hey, got your
brother.
2:40:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because
everyone thinks you were
2:40:38
carrying,
2:40:40
Adam Curry: carrying disease.
I've been waiting for a clip
2:40:45
about this because I've been
following it, and I have no idea
2:40:51
who these Japanese dudes are,
who's sitting at the desk and
2:40:54
the panel, I know the story and
and, and the story is self
2:40:59
replicating, mRNA. And so I keep
getting emails like, this is
2:41:05
horrible. This is crazy. This is
mRNA that replicates and that
2:41:10
spreads to other people. And
it's a story. It's a story, and
2:41:13
I could not get because a bunch
of Japs, sorry, didn't mean for
2:41:18
it to come out like that, but
they just,
2:41:21
John C Dvorak: they're just
sitting there. There goes our
2:41:23
audience, all
2:41:24
Adam Curry: three of them. How
do I just talking? It's all
2:41:27
subtitled, and voiceovers like,
this is no good for the show.
2:41:31
And then I get a clip. It's from
the rescue the Republic rally,
2:41:36
which took place in Washington,
DC. Not a lot of exposure. I
2:41:41
think there are about 20,000
people there, but it rained, so
2:41:45
it kind of sucked. I think that
really put a damper on the whole
2:41:49
on the whole rally. But Dr
Malone, who doesn't know him, he
2:41:55
spoke, and he spoke about this
very topic, so I wanted to share
2:41:58
that with the group. So
2:42:00
Unknown: here's what's going on.
I just came back from Tokyo,
2:42:03
where they had a 30,000 person
rally because they're about to
2:42:07
deploy self replicating RNA
vaccines. Japan is being used as
2:42:13
the guinea pigs for the world
for this new technology. The
2:42:17
Japanese people are calling this
the third atomic bomb. This is
2:42:21
being deployed in a cooperative
agreement between a US company,
2:42:25
our tourists, a Canadian, I'm
sorry, a Australian company
2:42:30
called CSL, and a Japanese
company. Now, the CEO of the
2:42:35
Japanese company recently gave a
press conference. What'd he say?
2:42:39
He said, anybody that is
spreading misinformation, we're
2:42:43
going to go after him legally.
We're going to try to have them
2:42:46
jailed if you say anything
against their self replicating.
2:42:50
RNA vaccine technology that's
never been rigorously tested. We
2:42:55
don't know if it's going to
infect other people. We don't
2:42:57
know if it's going to spread. We
know it's going to replicate. We
2:43:00
don't know if it's going to get
into the brain of the elders in
2:43:03
Japan, but we do know that if we
say anything about these
2:43:07
concerns, the CEO is going to
come after us and try to put us
2:43:11
in jail. That's the new world
order. That's what we're coming
2:43:15
into. That's what they want to
implement on us. They want to
2:43:18
shut us down. They want to
prevent us from speaking. They
2:43:22
want to completely control the
narrative. And they want to be
2:43:25
able to deploy psychological
warfare on all of you, to
2:43:29
control you, to train you to
respond to the fear narratives
2:43:34
about avian influenza and
monkeypox and whatever it is
2:43:38
they want to deploy next, in
order to control you, in order
2:43:42
to teach you to shut up, sit
down, stay in your homes and do
2:43:46
what you're told. Now I'm not
okay with that. I don't think
2:43:50
you're okay with that, and I
hope that you join all of us in
2:43:55
fighting this new tyranny.
2:43:58
Adam Curry: So I don't know,
sounds a bit like they're gonna
2:44:03
pull down the grid so we can't
have votes. Sounds like
2:44:07
John C Dvorak: bull crap in some
way or other. Well,
2:44:12
Adam Curry: sir, Mark and Dave
mastered will be
2:44:15
John C Dvorak: with that will be
about this being jailed. First,
2:44:19
Adam Curry: I ask if they have
any self replicating RNA on them
2:44:22
because, you know, stay away.
2:44:24
John C Dvorak: They're from
them. Sure. You can be certain
2:44:26
they don't.
2:44:28
Adam Curry: And then I have one
other big pharma story, which,
2:44:31
as I was writing up the rundown
for my clips and stuff this
2:44:35
morning, I was typing too fast.
And instead of Big Pharma, I
2:44:39
wrote big Harma. I'm like, oh,
that's kind of interesting.
2:44:41
Cute, yes, this is the follow on
from NPR about the the failure
2:44:49
of 23andme and they have a nice
little intro here with a
2:44:55
reminder of how stupid everybody
was to go along. Of this dumb
2:45:01
scheme, despite despite warnings
from your no agenda show.
2:45:06
Unknown: It was an idea that
caught on, pay about 100 bucks
2:45:08
for a saliva kit, and weeks
later, learn all about your
2:45:11
ancestry. The company behind
this 23andme was a hit. It was
2:45:16
worth billions. Oprah raved
about it, and countless people
2:45:19
took to social media to share
their experience, like tiktoker.
2:45:22
Danielle Edwards,
2:45:23
okay, I did it, y'all. I finally
took my 23andme kids. Jesus, all
2:45:29
right, spit in tube. So I'm
concentrating. I'm trying to
2:45:33
think about anything, but what I
have to do, which is spitting in
2:45:36
this tube.
2:45:37
More than 14 million people spit
in a 23andme tube. People were
2:45:41
holding spit parties. The
company was part of the
2:45:44
zeitgeist, but there was one big
business problem. Nobody needed
2:45:48
to do a 23 me test twice. It was
one and done, and now 23andme
2:45:53
stock is worth pennies.
Financial news networks like
2:45:55
CNBC have been blaring the news.
It has since lost 99.9%
2:46:00
of its value from a $6 billion
market cap peak.
2:46:03
Then there were two other big
blows. Last year, the company
2:46:06
was hit with a major data breach
of customer passwords, and last
2:46:09
week, its entire board of
directors resigned. Some
2:46:13
analysts say 23andme could go
out of business by next year,
2:46:16
which raises the question,
what's going to happen with the
2:46:19
genetic data has from millions
of people.
2:46:23
Adam Curry: So we never realized
at the time, and I'm kind of mad
2:46:26
at myself for not saying, what
kind of business is this, where
2:46:30
you only have your there's no
repeat business for customers.
2:46:33
You spit once and you're done
once. You got everybody to spit.
2:46:36
What else do you have? And we
we,
2:46:39
Unknown: well, we did shortly.
2:46:40
John C Dvorak: Yes, it was an
obvious short, but, or put
2:46:46
whatever the case, it's possible
that if they had marketing
2:46:49
people there that knew more than
you know Sergey Brin, they would
2:46:55
have come up with other things,
other ancillary products, other
2:46:59
things they could do, other
services they could provide it
2:47:04
to because you, when you have a
customer, you capture a
2:47:06
customer, you should be able to
sell them other things, books. I
2:47:10
mean, anything books. But they
did nothing. They just they it's
2:47:14
their own fault. I mean, it's
not very few. Most businesses
2:47:18
are one and done. If you take it
to a base level, and they come
2:47:22
up with other ideas you got, you
know, you get your repeat
2:47:25
customers, not necessarily from
buying a second car from your
2:47:28
brand. So they didn't have any
skills,
2:47:32
Adam Curry: right? And the big
joke for us was, oh, you're
2:47:37
gonna do the 23 of me, I'll bet
you that there's at least 1%
2:47:41
Ashkenazi Jew, because everybody
had some Ashkenazi Jew in them.
2:47:46
And now the question is, what is
going to happen to the data of
2:47:50
your Chinese, of your DNA? Well,
here's the
2:47:53
Unknown: answer, even if the
company goes under that data
2:47:55
could change hands. That may
surprise some customers. They
2:47:58
might believe that the
information is more protected
2:48:00
than it actually is that's on
your price. She's a law
2:48:03
professor at the University of
Iowa's College of Law who
2:48:05
focuses on genetic privacy. She
says federal health privacy
2:48:09
protections like HIPAA don't
apply here, since 23andme is
2:48:12
outside of the healthcare realm.
What the company does depends on
2:48:16
what customers agreed to when
they signed up for the service.
2:48:18
Some states like California and
Florida do give consumers rights
2:48:21
over their genetic data. If
customers are really worried,
2:48:24
they could ask for their samples
to be withdrawn from these
2:48:27
databases under those laws. When
I asked 23andme what it plans to
2:48:31
do with all the genetic data if
it goes out of business, a
2:48:33
spokesman wouldn't say, but he
did mention a partnership with
2:48:36
pharmaceutical giant
GlaxoSmithKline GSK which has
2:48:40
been analyzing the data to try
to find medical breakthroughs.
2:48:43
23andme says 80% of customers
opted into this kind of research
2:48:47
when they signed up. Company
says the data is anonymous.
2:48:51
Prince, thanks. If people now
are second guessing that
2:48:53
decision, they might be out of
luck. I couldn't go to GSK and
2:48:58
say, hey, my sample was given to
you. I want that taken out if it
2:49:01
was anonymized, right? Because
they're not going to re identify
2:49:04
it just to pull it
2:49:05
out of the database. The
2:49:06
23 me spokesman said the company
is committed to being
2:49:09
transparent with whatever
happens to customer data, saying
2:49:12
its core value is, quote, behind
every data point is a human
2:49:16
being, and
2:49:17
Adam Curry: there you go. You're
screwed. GlaxoSmithKline has
2:49:21
John C Dvorak: that screw how
you screwed? They say, I mean,
2:49:25
tell me how you're screwed. Are
they screwed?
2:49:27
Adam Curry: They say, it's
anonymous. I'm not believing
2:49:29
that. Well, let's
2:49:30
John C Dvorak: assume it is be
anonymous or not anonymous. How
2:49:32
are you screwed?
2:49:34
Adam Curry: If it's not
anonymous, you're screwed if
2:49:36
it's anonymous, maybe because
they can create all kinds of
2:49:40
things tailored for you to kill
you.
2:49:43
John C Dvorak: Who's they?
GlaxoSmithKline,
2:49:47
Adam Curry: why
2:49:47
John C Dvorak: would they do
that? How are you screwed? I
2:49:49
think you're exaggerating. Well,
2:49:50
Adam Curry: why would moderna
and Pfizer create for the sake
2:49:55
of argument? Because
2:49:56
John C Dvorak: I I agree it's a
dumb idea to give this
2:49:58
information away. Because.
Because it could be weaponized
2:50:01
in terms of a genetic, a genetic
targeted virus that could be
2:50:06
developed in China. Because, you
know, if they're against, yes,
2:50:09
go ahead, against the general,
against all white people,
2:50:13
against all black people. Yes. I
mean, we've been trying to kill
2:50:16
off the back black population in
Africa, if you want to go
2:50:19
conspiratorial, since the
invention of AIDS, but
2:50:22
Adam Curry: they didn't
Dietrich, they didn't spit in
2:50:25
the tube. So, you know, you get
2:50:27
John C Dvorak: these people to
volunteer their information,
2:50:29
which is probably a mistake,
2:50:30
Adam Curry: yes, and everyone
put it out there on ancestry,
2:50:34
and they all uploaded to all
these open source databases.
2:50:39
Well, that
2:50:40
John C Dvorak: way they can find
out who their relatives are,
2:50:43
yeah,
2:50:43
Adam Curry: which also didn't
turn out to be such a great
2:50:45
idea. Yeah, I found a relative.
I found my relatives. That guy's
2:50:49
a douche. How many times I heard
that story?
2:50:53
Unknown: Yeah? Anyway,
2:50:55
Adam Curry: I played it more to
say, listen to your no agenda
2:50:58
show. We're not that dumb. We've
tried to protect you,
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: I think so
2:51:03
Adam Curry: we're here for you.
2:51:05
John C Dvorak: We I only have
one clip that I can play before
2:51:08
we finish. Actually, it's true.
Since you brought this up, let's
2:51:10
bring up the VAX clip. You know,
they have to bring you. Know, we
2:51:14
gotta. People aren't taking up
on the vaxes. In fact, it's
2:51:16
gotten out of control. People
are so skeptical that we have
2:51:20
this report, new data
2:51:21
Unknown: from the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention
2:51:24
shows a drop in vaccination
rates among us kindergartners in
2:51:28
the current school year as NPRs,
Maria goy reports, the
2:51:32
proportion of children with
exemptions from vaccines rose to
2:51:36
a record high compared to The
2023 school year.
2:51:40
The CDC says about 127,000
kindergarten had exemptions from
2:51:44
at least one vaccine in the last
school year. That's about 3.3%
2:51:48
of all kindergarteners, an all
time high overall, nearly 93% of
2:51:52
kindergarteners had all the
required vaccines during the
2:51:55
last school year. Vaccination
rates against measles dropped
2:51:58
from the year before, and they
remained below the 95% threshold
2:52:03
considered crucial to prevent an
outbreak in the community. Other
2:52:07
CDC data show measles outbreaks
are up this year compared to
2:52:11
last year. The new CDC data show
coverage with MNR, DTaP, polio
2:52:16
vaccine and varicella vaccine
decreased among kindergarteners
2:52:20
in more than 30 states. Ah,
well,
2:52:23
Adam Curry: we're getting
through to him. Finally. Did you
2:52:28
have another one you wanted to
play?
2:52:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know, I
mean, we could skip it, but
2:52:32
let's see. Yes, I do have this.
Because this really annoyed me.
2:52:35
Somebody, one of our producers
sent me this. This is from
2:52:37
Nebraska, because when I heard
this from Nebraska, Nebraska
2:52:43
Public Radio, there's two
gotchas in this little
2:52:45
announcement I want you you'll
spot them both immediately. It's
2:52:50
about Nebraska's black maternal
health month.
2:52:55
Unknown: Okay? Tuesday marks the
beginning of Nebraska's black
2:52:58
maternal health month. Advocates
are using this time of year to
2:53:01
bring awareness to health
disparities among black birthing
2:53:04
people. Nebraska Public Media's
Cassidy arena was at the launch
2:53:08
event. The
2:53:09
US has the highest maternal
mortality rates in the
2:53:12
industrialized world, and
Nebraska has one of the highest
2:53:15
rates at 26.2% this is what
Nebraska black maternal health
2:53:19
month addresses. Ashley Spivey
is the executive director of the
2:53:23
reproductive justice
organization IB black girl. She
2:53:26
says this month is the time to
call for more support in black
2:53:30
maternity care.
2:53:31
We have an opportunity to have
impactful change today, not
2:53:35
tomorrow, not seven years from
now, but right now we can make a
2:53:39
commitment to changing the
experiences for our black
2:53:42
pregnant people and folks with
the capacity for pregnancy and
2:53:45
root that enjoying abundance.
2:53:47
Ivy, black girl will host
maternal health events
2:53:49
throughout the month, including
networking events and community
2:53:52
baby showers. I'm Cassidy arena
Nebraska, public media news. I'm
2:53:56
Adam Curry: very confused by
this report. What exactly is
2:54:01
going on. They're doing baby
show.
2:54:04
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of
virtue signaling about birthing
2:54:06
people. Yes, I heard that
burning people, and the other
2:54:10
one was at the end of the clip,
was, was, oh no, is the first
2:54:15
one was birthing person, yes.
And then the other one was
2:54:18
birth, birthing people. I mean,
they can't say woman, I guess in
2:54:23
Nebraska, uh, if you're black,
well, they also, yes, they
2:54:27
Adam Curry: also can't say
maternal. Then, because maternal
2:54:29
is very specific to matriarch,
don't they have to change that
2:54:32
as well.
2:54:33
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
they're up to. I just found it
2:54:36
the clip to be one of those
makes your teeth itch. Clip,
2:54:42
Unknown: donut. Donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people
2:54:45
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd
2:54:46
be fab.
2:54:54
Adam Curry: Well, if your teeth
are itching, then don't worry.
2:54:57
Help is on the way. We have the
tip of the day. We've. Got our
2:55:00
end of show mixes. We have all
kind we got groovy stuff coming.
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We have Commodores. We've got
the meetups. And right now, John
2:55:07
is going to take us through to
$50 of our supporters, our
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producers for episode 1701, the
Star Trek donation episode. You
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know, this
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John C Dvorak: is a short short
list. It's like, well people,
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but we'll start with Mount
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there. He might have a he's got
a birthday. Call out for sure.
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Adam Curry: Let me check here.
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John C Dvorak: Are you doing
that? I'll continue.
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Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on. I
have it here. He says, For my
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my 71st birthday gift, I asked
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my wife to donate the amount of
my birthdate, which is one oh 10
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That's right. Thomas Hurtado in
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Thank everybody for helping,
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SIR so he will be sir Doctor 1%
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Viscount of lieberland. There
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the. Uh, title changes, who, of
course, have upped their amount
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of supports to the best podcast
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time once again to welcome the
new Commodores into the realm of
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Commodore ship here on the no
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Commodore sir Ryan. Commodore
baronetti Bear Commodore G
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the white Shepherd, Commodore,
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Commodore, sir dude named Ralph
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fly not Commodore, title of the
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the paperwork, yes, that's what
I was looking for. Hey, we have
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one night, one Dame to bring up
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and come on up, both of you
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joining the very exclusive group
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Tabitha, keeper of awesomeness,
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you. We've got hookers and blow
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Bach, the Manila bong hit, some
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3:01:47
of course, the mutton and Mead.
And you also can go to noagender
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rings.com if you're not there
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That is where you can find our
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So along with that, we give you
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some wax to seal your important
correspondence and also a
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certificate of authenticity.
Make sure you give us a mailing
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address and a ring size. There's
a handy ring sizing guide right
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there. Thank you all for
supporting no agenda, the
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perfect
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the perfect compliment to your
no agenda show experience is
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visiting a no agenda meetup.
These are producer organized.
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They are organized at no agenda
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will meet children from other
lands. Some even walk off into
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the sunset together. There's
never been a fight, never been
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any kind of fructose at a no
agenda meetup, because everyone
3:02:40
comes together, hangs out
together, and often wind up
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helping each other in trying
times, such as we've had
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recently. There is one taking
no, let's see. There's two
3:02:51
taking place today, the TMI
evacuation zone October surprise
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is now underway at Evergreen
brewing in Camp Hill,
3:02:57
Pennsylvania, and the Indiana
tribal October surprise meetup
3:03:02
also underway now at blonde
blind owl brewery, Indianapolis,
3:03:06
Indiana. Hello. Wave back. It's
usually about 100 people there.
3:03:09
And on Thursday, our next show
day, the northern wake public
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slave gathering, will kick off
at six o'clock at hoppy endings.
3:03:17
And that is in Raleigh, North
Carolina. Man, that's a long
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list that goes all the way
through to January. Let me see,
3:03:24
there's a couple in Texas,
Bedford, Texas, bastard Texas.
3:03:28
Also, of course, the big October
18 Fredericksburg Texas meetup,
3:03:32
curry and the keeper will be
there. It's going to be a
3:03:35
hootenanny. And Florida is also
working on a meetup. And they
3:03:39
sent in their own little promo
to make it official.
3:03:45
Unknown: Hey, y'all, I just
wanted to invite you down to the
3:03:48
ok gun corral for a day of
shooting at the range in
3:03:52
Okeechobee, Florida, on Sunday,
October 20 and 11am we're going
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to have a professional with us.
So don't y'all worry about a
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thing, just come dress to shoot
some clays, and don't forget to
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sign your waiver. All this and
more at no agenda meetups.com,
3:04:09
yee haw. Remember guns, good,
knives, bad. See y'all soon,
3:04:16
Adam Curry: they do a lot of
interesting things there in
3:04:18
Florida. Make sure you check
that out. Thank you all very
3:04:21
much for organizing your
meetups. Thank you for attending
3:04:24
them. You will enjoy this. It's
like eating potato chips. You
3:04:27
have one you just can't stop.
You keep going. You'll go to
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every one single one around the
world. There's at least 10 a
3:04:32
week all around the globe. No
agenda meetups.com. If you can't
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find one near you, start one
yourself. It's easy. Sometimes
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you want
3:04:39
Unknown: to go hang out with all
the
3:04:41
nights and days. It's like
3:04:53
a party, and
3:04:58
Adam Curry: this is the portion
of the. Show where we like to
3:05:02
determine what we're going to
play at the very end of the
3:05:04
show, also known as the ISO
choosing moment we get them from
3:05:08
all over. And I have two. You
seem to have a lot of them. Seem
3:05:14
to have 401. That many. Why
don't you play yours first? All
3:05:18
John C Dvorak: right? Well,
let's start with veggie
3:05:20
Adam Curry: veget. Okay, not
3:05:22
Unknown: my thing personally as
a vegetarian. Okay,
3:05:27
John C Dvorak: okay, well, I
didn't go over scandalous,
3:05:31
Unknown: scandal and redemption.
3:05:35
Adam Curry: It's not really
floating my boat just yet.
3:05:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, how about
how?
3:05:38
Unknown: How do they do it?
3:05:39
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, that's
it's punchy. Yeah, possibility.
3:05:43
John C Dvorak: Great podcast,
3:05:45
Unknown: great podcast.
3:05:48
Adam Curry: Well, I think I can
compete with that. How's this
3:05:52
one
3:05:52
Unknown: I know about work. I'm
a podcaster.
3:05:58
Adam Curry: Okay, so far, that's
a swing and a miss, and there's
3:06:02
this one rack scores. I don't
even know where that came from.
3:06:08
Unknown: No, no, I
3:06:09
Adam Curry: think, I think this
one. I think this is the winner.
3:06:12
Here it is great podcast. That's
the winner for me. You know? You
3:06:17
John C Dvorak: know what? It's
clear in line. You know why?
3:06:19
Because she says, gah, no,
because
3:06:21
Adam Curry: we do a great
podcast. Hello. It's simple like
3:06:24
that. Now, ladies and gentlemen,
waiting for it's John's Pro Tip
3:06:28
of the day and
3:06:34
Unknown: sometimes Adam,
3:06:39
John C Dvorak: all right. Pre
tip.
3:06:40
Adam Curry: I'm excited a
preach. I
3:06:42
John C Dvorak: gotta know from
Keith asking me, I recall
3:06:43
mentioning something recently
about a tool to save convert
3:06:46
videos from other platforms into
audio files, not really, but I
3:06:49
want to say, if you want to con,
you got your stuff going on in
3:06:52
the computer, you want to
convert to an audio file, get a
3:06:55
free copy of Audacity. Oh, wow,
3:06:59
Adam Curry: that's your tip,
huh? And
3:07:01
John C Dvorak: then, no, it's
not my tip. Is the pre clip, pre
3:07:03
tip. That's a pre tip. Okay, pre
tip. So it audacity, what? And
3:07:09
you have to Dick with the
settings a little bit, but it
3:07:11
will, it will record system
audio. And then, so you just
3:07:18
play a video, and you put, push
the button and it'll record
3:07:20
whatever is being played, and it
turns into an audio file. And
3:07:23
then you can screw with it.
3:07:24
Adam Curry: One I don't
understand what this tip is. I'm
3:07:27
confused.
3:07:28
John C Dvorak: Well, he wants to
know what he can use to play
3:07:31
good to create audio files on
his computer. Well, what would
3:07:37
you recommend?
3:07:39
Adam Curry: Well, no, but you
didn't really explain how to do
3:07:42
it. I mean, you've got, you've
got to set up the output to the
3:07:44
input. Yeah,
3:07:45
John C Dvorak: no, as I said,
it's, it takes a it's a little,
3:07:48
sometimes it's complicated, but
it will record the system's
3:07:52
sound. Yes, yeah. You have to
change a couple of settings here
3:07:56
and there to get it to work on
something. This is, I'm not
3:07:58
going to go through the whole
thing. These are tips. They're
3:08:02
not tutorials.
3:08:03
Adam Curry: Audacity. There's
your tip. Hey, are you starting
3:08:06
to podcast? You should get
Audacity is a tip to
3:08:10
John C Dvorak: tip, not a
tutorial. That's my motto.
3:08:13
Adam Curry: All right. I need a
new jingle, everybody. It's a
3:08:15
tip, not a tutorial.
3:08:18
John C Dvorak: Anyway, my tip,
real Tip of the Day. Oh, okay,
3:08:20
Adam Curry: I'm sorry I was,
geez, that's a pre tip. Okay,
3:08:23
well, you're confusing me. Now
we don't the pre
3:08:25
John C Dvorak: time. You're
easily confused. So let's I just
3:08:28
want to recommend a TV show. Now
if you get over the air
3:08:31
broadcast, which everyone should
do, get a cheap antenna, and you
3:08:34
stick it on
3:08:35
Adam Curry: TVs. Have a 11
bucks, 11 bucks, whatever,
3:08:40
John C Dvorak: hover far away.
You stick it on there and you
3:08:42
point it at the whatever
mountains nearby, or wherever
3:08:45
you get your transmitters, and
boom, you can get, like, 100
3:08:47
channels, probably, and NHK is
usually in the package. Oh, so
3:08:55
NHK has a show that I can't
recommend enough, is called
3:09:01
somewhere street somewhere, and
it's a red and if you haven't
3:09:06
seen this show, people, this is
the travelog show you want to
3:09:09
watch. Forget Rick Steves and
all these people floating
3:09:13
around. No, somewhere Street is
a fantastic show because that's
3:09:18
the way most people actually
travel. It's some random guy
3:09:21
walking through some town,
asking people about this and
3:09:24
that, and just having casual
conversations. Actually, it's
3:09:27
kind of produced later, as you
can tell, it's posted up as a
3:09:30
cute for girls voice, Hi, how
you doing? What are you doing?
3:09:34
Oh, I can come into your house.
They take into people's houses,
3:09:37
into the grocery stores, into
it's just a fabulous Travel Log
3:09:41
show. And if you, if you can
find it, watch it. It's a
3:09:44
killer.
3:09:45
Adam Curry: I think that's an
excellent tip. I'm going to do
3:09:47
that because I have an over the
air antenna. Thanks to you sure
3:09:50
you do, yes, you, of course you
do somewhere street on NHK from
3:09:55
Japan. Now that's a tip of the
day. It's not
3:09:59
Unknown: good. Good news. It's
good advice. John, C's Tip of
3:10:04
the Day.
3:10:05
Adam Curry: What other podcast
gives you viewing tips like
3:10:08
that? I ask you, none. Only the
best podcast in the universe can
3:10:13
do that with end of show mixes
coming up, all about bombing.
3:10:18
We're just gonna bomb. I'm gonna
bomb 'em hard. We have let me
3:10:23
see who's up next. If you're
listening at the troll room or
3:10:26
no agenda stream or on the
modern podcast app, don't tune
3:10:29
out, because we have a walk
through the mind coming up next.
3:10:34
I don't think I've heard this.
Is this Billy Bones? I think it
3:10:37
is Billy Bones. Billy Bones with
a three for the E and we look
3:10:44
forward to Episode 1702 which
we'll be doing for you on
3:10:49
Thursday. I'll have a report of
Sir Mark and Dame Astrid visit
3:10:53
here. And of course, we move on
towards our 17th anniversary on
3:10:58
the 26th of October. Right now I
am coming to you from the heart
3:11:02
of the Texas Hill Country, here
in Fredericksburg, Texas, where
3:11:05
they're taking down the grid.
There'll be no voting this year
3:11:08
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry, and
3:11:11
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it doesn't
3:11:13
matter if you vote or not
because it's rigged. I'm John C
3:11:16
Dvorak.
3:11:18
Adam Curry: We'll talk to you
again on Thursday. Remember us
3:11:20
at no agenda, donations.com
Until then, adios, mofos, a
3:11:24
hooey hooey a hooey hooey and
such,
3:11:32
Unknown: bomb them. We need to
kill and bomb them. Bomb them.
3:11:37
We need to kill and bomb them,
bomb them. We need to bomb them.
3:11:43
We need to kill them and bomb
them again. I'm gonna,
3:11:49
I'm gonna,
3:11:50
I'm gonna bomb bomb.
3:11:51
I'm gonna,
3:11:53
I'm gonna,
3:11:54
I'm gonna bomb bomb.
3:11:56
The shit out of I'm gonna,
3:11:58
I'm gonna, I'm gonna bomb, bomb.
I'm gonna,
3:12:01
I'm gonna,
3:12:03
I'm gonna hand it.
3:12:22
People, how you talking
3:12:42
about? Easy. I'm gonna
3:13:10
it up. CDC, greatest hit, now
available with proof of
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vaccination.
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You've been fasting. Classics
like tell
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me Dr Fauci enter with a signed
company album by Brian Johnson
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and Johnson revolutionary.
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It's like quarantine
3:13:51
for just two weeks. Stay away
from me for just
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he say, your wife me for just
six feet will tell you lies.
3:14:08
Somebody come
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podcast in the universe.org/n,
3:14:48
a great podcast. You.