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John C Dvorak: Dogs and cats
will watch TV. Adam curry.
Unknown: John C Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: October 6, 2024 this
is your award winning Kim on
Asian media assassination
episode 1701.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
Adam Curry: beginning every 15
minutes and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's too
damned hot. I'm John C Dvorak
buzzkill,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, yeah, I
figured you'd be you'd be mad
about that. You have a bad
attitude today about things you
got. You're mad because it's too
hot and you have no air
conditioning. Was 95 yesterday.
That's what I mean. It's too hot
for San Francisco. Too hot. It's
too hot. Listen to that.
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we have achieved the pinnacle
episode 1701 the same digits as
the Starship Enterprise. Have
you ever heard this version of
what this Theremin lady? It's a
live habit. It's a live
orchestra with a there man. I
love it. It's fantastic.
John C Dvorak: I we used to talk
about her. I can't remember her
name. She's a famous Theremin
artist,
Adam Curry: katika. Katika
Eleni, I think, I think she's
Eastern Bloc. Anyway, John, 1701
episodes, that's not bad.
John C Dvorak: 1701 Yeah, we
could have done a promotion, but
we'd get sued by Paramount.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's interesting you
put that in the newsletter,
because I hadn't even thought
about it until like, you know,
that's probably a good point if
you use what one little bit of
Star Trek imagery do, they come
after you right away. Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah. Then they
do it, because that's what they
do. And you, if you're gonna do
it, you have to do it all the
time, so they do it with
everybody.
Adam Curry: So we should tell
the artists up front, don't do
any Star Trek.
John C Dvorak: We will run
anything that's got, even the
Star Trek type logo.
Adam Curry: You can't even do
that for, for like, parodies
sake,
John C Dvorak: there's not a
parody Well, depending
parodying,
Adam Curry: it depends on what
the image looks like. I think
that's very dependent upon the
image.
John C Dvorak: And they, I think
they go after parodies too.
Well, maybe not so much. That's
beside the point. We usually
don't use parodies necessarily
in our art. No, well,
Adam Curry: we use a lot of
product parodies. I'm not I'm
not arguing the
John C Dvorak: fact mockery is
mock difference. Oh, okay,
Adam Curry: well, all right,
mockery, that's good, man. I
think we should just kick it off
with some ABC special live
coverage, very demure, very
mindful.
Unknown: Helene has now become
the deadliest mainland hurricane
since Katrina back in 2005
almost 20 years ago, the storm's
death toll is now at least 227
across several states, but many
people are still unaccounted
for, with their families
desperate for answers, and the
search for them is complicated.
The full extent of the damage is
still coming into focus, as
communities there struggle to
get basic supplies, and hundreds
of 1000s of people still remain
without power. This morning, our
Gio Benitez is leading our
special coverage, southeast
strong, and joins us now live
from Marshall, North Carolina.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is the
new thing, southeast strong. You
see, you've got to say southeast
strong. Misreport everything but
southeast strong.
John C Dvorak: I think
misreporting is the key to this.
Yes, it seems from every side of
the spectrum, yes. And I looked,
there was one that came up. I
think it was last night. This
woman comes on talking about
her, her elderly uncle and aunt
who aren't elderly at all, and
they wouldn't let it rescue
because the helicopter pilot was
told to stand down by the fire
chief, yeah, and if I'm gonna
arrest you, the fire chief said,
the fire chief's not a
policeman. But okay, and it was
like a three minute chopper ride
from the rescue point, which was
the side of a hill, to the town
where the fire chief told him to
stand down. Well, I don't
understand what? And he wouldn't
go back and pick this one guy
up. He picked went back and
picked up his son, which he
dropped off, but then I don't
know, it was only three minutes
away. Why did he just fly him
someplace else where this fire
chief wasn't standing around
telling you not to do it? Well,
I mean, these reports are just
sketchy. Well,
Adam Curry: that one I can, I
can explain, because they
between picking up the woman and
leaving his son and the husband
behind, they put a TFR in place,
temporary flight restriction,
and the only way to get there
through that valley or that
Gully, or whatever it was, was
right through what the Feds had
put up as a TFR. It doesn't mean
that the fire chief can arrest
anybody. Yeah, but I mean that,
yeah, there was, I mean there
was, there's also, this is so
politicized, It's sickening. And
I loved everybody, like Lindsey
Graham's a dick. Lindsey Graham
doesn't care. Lindsey Graham is
a horrible person. And they play
Unknown: this clip. You know,
I've been going all over
South Carolina, like most people
hadn't slept much, but look
what's going on in Israel. Our
friends in Israel, surrounded by
people
Adam Curry: that wanted doesn't
care about anybody. There was,
that's a good one. There was
six, six minutes of him and
Hannity talking about and and
even Graham was going off on his
print,
John C Dvorak: by the way, his
pronunciation of Israel, Israel
is something to behold Israel. I
can't even do it,
Adam Curry: so I, you know, I'm
the last person to kind of
defend Lindsey Graham, but in
this case, that's for sure, that
it was really it was so like
Lindsey Graham didn't care about
people. He was talking about it
for six minutes and calling
everybody out. But I went back,
actually did a little bit of
historical work, and was
checking some stuff. And, you
know, there's a governor race
going on in in North Carolina,
and the lieutenant governor is
running against the governor, as
far as I understand, that Mark
Robinson, he's the black, the
big black guy that's always
talking about, you know, hell,
fire and damnation, very, very
controversial guy, and it seems
like the kind of trying to pin
all of this stuff or the the the
slow federal response on
Unknown: on him. Republican
Lieutenant Governor Mark
Robinson says, even though he
missed a vote to prove the
state's emergency declaration
before Helene, the vote didn't
matter. Yeah, the lieutenant
governor was the only elected
official not to weigh in on
Governor Roy Cooper's request
ahead of the storm devastating
North Carolina Capitol reporter
Michael Hyland is joining us now
with this story, and Michael the
Lieutenant Governor pointed the
finger back at the governor. He
talked about all this today as
he was getting ready to take
more supplies out to the western
part of the state, which he's
been working on coordinating
with local leaders. In fact,
he's been working with the
Franklin County Sheriff's Office
over the last several days,
going back and forth from here
to western North Carolina,
helping to bring things like
food and water and coordinating
with local leaders with rescue
missions. He's posted on social
media about meeting with people
impacted, and said Governor Roy
Cooper has not done enough to
respond to the devastation.
Records show, last week, as the
storm was approaching, the
governor reached out to Robinson
and the other eight members of
the Council of State, which is a
group of statewide elected
officials, to ask for their vote
in support of declaring a state
of emergency. Robinson was the
only member not to vote. This
happened to several members of
his staff were resigning from
their jobs last week. Here's
what he said when asked why he
missed the vote. I don't
even need to cover why, because
here's the bottom line, my vote
in that it would that vote was
going to pass with or without my
vote. So it was absolutely
inconsequential that you know me
voting. It didn't matter.
Seems to me, Lieutenant Governor
had one job prior to this
disaster, and vote so that we
could get disaster relief. And
the one thing he could have done
he didn't do, a
spokesman for Governor Cooper
accused Robinson of engaging in
online disinformation campaign
about the storm response that he
says causes confusion in areas
with limited communications and
potentially puts lives at risk.
Robinson also criticized Cooper
for being in New York last week
on Wednesday as the storm was
approaching, Cooper's office
says he was back in North
Carolina Wednesday afternoon and
coordinating the state's
response ahead of time.
Adam Curry: It's it's so Oh,
it's his fault. Well, if you got
nine people and eight vote, then
it's okay, but there's so much
this.
John C Dvorak: Don't overlook
Robinson's being smeared last
week or the week before. That's
the whole point. Being on the
black pervs for teens, website
team years ago, and a black Nazi
thing and that whole thing. I
mean, this guy, it was so bad
that even Trump couldn't bring
himself to invite him to one of
the North Carolina rallies. So
the guys, they've gone after
this. He's a hot potato.
Unknown: He's a hot hot potato.
Hot potato.
John C Dvorak: He can still win.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah,
but, but, you know, people don't
really understand how everything
works in with emergency
management. And I'm pretty sure
that South South Carolina and
North Carolina, they, you know,
there were emergency workers, of
course, what everyone saw a lot
of, particularly on on social
media, was the redneck, redneck
army.
Unknown: It's the sound of
solace. Help is on the way. We
just kind of organized a private
helicopter army to go in and
survey the damage and get
extract people and take supplies
in and just create landing zones
for everybody to have supply
routes in and out. Matt McSwain
is a pilot from Mount Holly, and
says he received a call from
Operation AirDrop, an
organization now working to
shore up relief and rescue
efforts for folks trapped in
North. Carolina's High Country.
We've had 37 helicopters today,
volunteers. We've had people
from Texas to Maine all the way
across the East Coast just show
up and like, how do we help? For
folks
who remember Katrina,
there's like, the Cajun Navy.
I feel very much like this is
Cajun navy. Yeah, this is
redneck navy. Redneck Marine. So
redneck Marines, McSwain took us
back to the War Room, where we
were allowed to take photos but
not share any audio from inside,
there's a station where they
gather calls for help, often
from social media posts, then
triage the severity of the need
and what supplies should go on
the flight, and then attempt to
find that person in distress.
One of the biggest hurdles,
McSwain says is not having spots
to land. When we go to those GPS
coordinates, we may not be able
to land there. It might be a
mile, two miles on one side of
the other, just because we can't
get to that distress call
Tuesday. He says they plan to
help with another major concern,
shuttling in communication
devices for first responders.
There's actual whole communities
that are completely cut off from
the grid. We tried to establish
communications with the local,
sheriff's department, the fire
department. There is no
communications.
Adam Curry: So you know what I'm
seeing? I don't know about you,
but I just see all of this the
government, you know best. No
good. They're late. Everything's
horrible. They're doing this on
purpose. If it was, if it was a
blue state, they'd be there in
minutes, you know, on and on and
on and on and and we, of course,
we're still dealing with the,
oh, it's, it's a, it's for the
courts, it's for the lithium
this.
John C Dvorak: And let's, well,
you can drop that part of it.
But the blue state thing, it is
a blue state. It's got a it's
got a Democrat governor. A lot
of these people are black, yeah,
Asheville, North Carolina, one
of the centers is, is a lesbian
stronghold of the South. It's
always referred to locally as
she Ville. You take the A out of
the name, it's not Asheville,
she Ville. And so this is bull
crap. Well, besides
Adam Curry: that, I like, is it
hanlon's razor? I think it is
hanlon's razor. Never attribute
to malice, that which is
adequately explained by
incompetence.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's and
also it doesn't help that the
situation coming out of the
White House, from FEMA and from
Majorca, who said we're out of
money, and then the denial that
we're out of money, which I have
two clips from John Pierre, this
has been floating around. This
is what she said in a press
conferences kJP this week,
categorically,
Unknown: no. Biden did not take
FEMA relief money to use, to use
on migrants,
John C Dvorak: and then here she
is in 2022.
Unknown: FEMA Regional
Administrators have been meeting
with city officials on site to
coordinate, to coordinate,
available federal support from
FEMA and other federal agencies.
Funding is also available
through FEMA emergency food and
shelter program to eligible
local governments and not for
non for profit organizations
upon request to support
humanitarian relief for
migrants.
Adam Curry: Well, exactly. And
this is kind of my point, our
government is, and that's all
governments, our government
body, which people, somehow, in
my lifetime, have come to like,
oh, something's wrong. The
cavalry's coming. Yeah, the
Redneck Marine Corps is coming.
Your neighbors are coming.
People who, regardless of your
who you are, your background or
your gender, sexuality, your
religion, race, doesn't matter,
your neighbors were coming. But
stop waiting for the government,
because our government, that's
what our government is, an
administrative state filled with
pencil pushes and PowerPoints
seriously. And
John C Dvorak: in 89 it was
pointed out, like around here in
the Bay Area where he had the 89
Loma Prieta earthquake and the
freeway collapsed. It was just
all locals going out and
rescuing people. There was you
didn't there was no time to wait
the government. Screw the
government. You got to go out
and do what you do. And there's
all kinds of local heroes that
pull people out of cars, under a
crush, to overpass and all the
rest. And it was all just people
doing what you could do to help
your neighbor.
Adam Curry: But really, we need
to just come to grips with the
fact that all government,
especially state and federal
emergency, are completely
incompetent. They have forgotten
and forsaken their their
mission. You know, media, of
course, can't even cover this
because, oh, don't let anybody
catch on, specifically North
Carolina, I remember when it
came to gender neutral
bathrooms. We had a lot to say,
lot going on. That was during
Obama,
John C Dvorak: and it was mostly
in North Carolina, yes,
Adam Curry: but when the rubber
really meets the road, they have
no clue on how to operate. And
you know, people are even
saying, you know, do you really
want FEMA? Because here's.
Corrupt and nasty. The system
is, you know, people like yo,
they're stopping aid. They're
not letting us get through no
because if you the minute FEMA
comes into your state, they have
their approved, their approved
suppliers, you know, which may
be Walmart or whoever, I don't
know, they have their approved,
approved suppliers, and you are
they, they cannot, by agreement,
let any other supplies come in,
because it's, it's like, oh,
money grab. Just like where the
money originally went to, for,
you know, for asylum seekers,
migrants, the newcomers that you
know, that didn't even go to the
government. Just went straight
to nonprofits, the nonprofits
where the executive director
makes seven, $800,000 a year.
That's your problem. You've got
to they've got to stop thinking
that the government is going to
do anything for you. And do you
really want them in? Here's an
example of why you might not
want them in. Are they
Unknown: still not there
anywhere. What are
Adam Curry: you seeing from FEMA
in the federal and the federal
response, if any? I
Unknown: mean, they're present.
They're in the way. They are
directly interrupting our
ability to conduct missions and
operations. And I'm not going to
disparage anybody, because we
are trying to work with in
partner relationships, both
government and non government
entities within state and
federal and county, you know,
we, I went to put a couple of
people into a hotel last night,
and I they have a security guard
at the hotel. He said, Oh, we're
so sorry. The entire hotel has
been booked for federal
employees. And it's like, no, I
have people that would just pull
it out of a mountain that are
living out in the hills, and
there's not a place for me to
put them, because we have
federal employees that are
staying the hotel. I slept in
this white car last night. I
smell like foot and death right
now, as does every single person
our team. Not a single one of us
slept. We got done maybe at
three o'clock. The moment the
sun was up. We could fly
helicopters again. We were back
in the air, and we have not
stopped. And I was like, on the
fence about trying to get on
this program or not. I want
people to understand how
incredible this organization is,
save our allies and all the work
that all of these volunteers are
doing. But people, this is
biblical level devastation.
Yeah, this is apocalyptic. The
things that we see out there,
Adam Curry: yeah, just you can't
count on you stop counting on
your government. Then that's
what that's very tiring to see
everybody running around like,
oh, and all political, no good.
I mean, even the the kJP clips,
I mean, it's all being
politicized. Well, there's 1000s
of dead people. It's just, it's,
it's the good side of who we are
as Americans and the bad side.
And by the way, this is not a
once in a once, ever occurrence.
You know, I looked into this is
the Tennessee Valley. We have
the Tennessee Valley Authority,
which was brought in initially
to also work with, you know,
create dams and make sure that
there was not too much flooding.
You know, the big one was 1916
when this happened, this exact
same scenario happened, and the
city of Asheville was gone. I
think the water level is only a
few feet below what it was now.
This was quite incredible, the
amount of water. And then around
19, I think 1971 there was, yes,
there was a project to create a
lake which was going to be
called, hmm, I'm trying to think
what it was going to be called.
The French Broad River valleys.
They wanted to make a lake. The
Tennessee Valley Authority
wanted to, which would probably
have stopped this from happening
in Asheville. But back then,
there was this huge backlash,
because there were 60 families
who were there and they didn't
want, you know, to become part
of the lake. Well, okay, so you
all made a decision, and here
you go. That said these
hurricanes coming out of the
Gulf, particularly the one now
supposedly headed towards
Florida. Tina lived in Florida
for over 15 years. She said she
cannot remember a time when a
hurricane was about to hit all
of Florida that came out of the
Gulf. Can you,
John C Dvorak: I don't keep
track of that sort of thing. I
it doesn't seem like it would be
that unusual, Yeah,
Adam Curry: apparently it is. It
is because you have this
hurricane Katrina came out of
the Gulf, yeah, but that didn't
hit Florida. Well, Florida got
affected, yeah? Not, not like
this.
John C Dvorak: And there was
that one just a couple of years
ago that that hurricane they
went through Tampa,
Adam Curry: which one was that
it
John C Dvorak: was the one that
hit that one town really bad,
and they made a big fuss about
it. And Tampa was hit pretty
hard, and that came out of the
Gulf were the fish
Adam Curry: flopping in the
street. They're always, always,
yeah. Yeah. Well, I haven't
heard much climate change yet,
although I'm sure it's coming,
and we're all crazy. Climate
change is doing this. Somebody
brought
John C Dvorak: up the fact that
a lot of this moisture may have
been caused by a underwater
volcano, some, some like a year
22 I think, and put a bunch of
moisture in the air that had to
come out eventually. Well,
Adam Curry: you know, there's
plenty of government projects
that go way back that that have
tried to steer hurricanes. I
think that it was in like 1963
or something, when was, I was
Eisenhower president? No, that
was Kennedy. No,
John C Dvorak: Kennedy must
Adam Curry: have been earlier
and and so they would drop
silver iodine into the into the
hurricane iodide. They would
drop that into the hurricane and
then they could steer it. But it
also, of course, created an
enormous amount of water, which
is what we saw here.
John C Dvorak: So you know, how
would that mechanism work,
steering it with silver.
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
what, what? What the report was
that somehow, by I
John C Dvorak: remembered the
time, and say probably the 60s
or 70s, where they said, Well,
if it's really bad, we can drop
a nuke on this thing and knock
it out.
Adam Curry: How can we ever?
I've heard it on this show from
you. I've never, I don't think
they ever. They should try it.
Man, come on, give it a shot. Of
course, the real issue at hand
is this,
Unknown: as western North
Carolina recovers from
devastating flood damage
following Hurricane Helene,
election officials are
scrambling to prepare for early
voting. Yeah, North Carolina is,
of course, a key swing state
that could very well decide next
month's presidential election.
Steve Harrison from member
station WFA in Charlotte, has
been covering this and joins us
now. Hey, Steve, Hey, Scott.
Early voting begins in North
Carolina on october 17, a little
more than two weeks from today.
Do state elections officials
think they'll be ready? Yeah. I
mean, they're confident it will
begin on time in all counties,
but they can't really say what
voting will look like. As of
this morning, there's still 10
county elections board offices
that haven't reopened. That
means they can't process new
registrations, they can't send
out or receive mail ballots. I
mean, you have to imagine that
that voting sites were just were
just overwhelmed by the
flooding. How bad is the damage?
Are they unusable? Yes. Karen
Brinson Bell, the executive
director of the state board of
elections, said some of those
voting sites may be impossible
to reach for now, at least
because of mudslides and downed
trees and in some cases, roads
may be completely washed away.
Brinson Bell said the state has
had experience running elections
after hurricanes, after
Hurricane Dorian hit North
Carolina in 2019 she said the
board used a tent and trailers
for voting in Hyde County, which
is on the coast. And that may
happen again. The state hopes to
know by the end of this week
what voting sites can be used
and which ones can't.
Adam Curry: We'll have to see
how that affects this important
swing state.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
serious eclipse on voting. If
you're going to talk about
voting, early voting in
particular, yeah,
Adam Curry: I would just say I
think it's great what the
citizens of North Carolina have
done. And, of course, also in
Florida, grousing. But the
grousing, you know, I had boots
on the ground, RVG, truth on the
X I know, is ombre. And this
guy, he goes everywhere. He's,
you know, he was at the border
for months, and then always he
just drives up and he's and then
he's in North Carolina, and he
says, you know, the people are
actually getting it together.
And if anything, the social all
the social media stuff, all of
it. He says, sucks. It sucks for
the people there. Well,
John C Dvorak: I would say, also
I think the media coverage sucks
too.
Adam Curry: It's completely, I
mean, I was texting which
John C Dvorak: was trying to
dissensational as usual. Gee,
I'm shocked, shocked that
they're sensationalizing the
news. What's
Adam Curry: interesting, though,
is that in Europe, no one even
knows this is happening. It's
almost not covered, like, Yeah,
whatever this. We've seen
John C Dvorak: some reports, but
it's covered like, straight,
like, straight news, just a
mention, yeah. You know, there's
Adam Curry: much more important
things, you know, like Iran and
Ukraine and,
John C Dvorak: oh, money, money.
Well, that everyone
Adam Curry: has a universally,
people have an issue with all
the money being spent on other
countries. I think that that's
now almost a bipartisan issue or
nonpartisan.
John C Dvorak: Let's play these
clips. This is early voting.
This all from NPR. It's a long
report. I got through, I think
four clips here. They're not
long, but this is about early
voting, and there's a bunch of
subtle propaganda in here, as
usual as you would expect from
NPR,
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR. You. Or
PBS, Election
Day is a month away, and early
voting is already happening.
More than a million votes have
already been cast, with more
coming every day. Miles parks is
our voting correspondent. He
covers the topic 365 days a
year. What a
Adam Curry: voting correspondent
who has Yeah,
John C Dvorak: and did you hear
what he does? He covers the
topic 300 every day, every
Unknown: day of the year, every
year, but right now is the
moment when all of the
storylines he's following rise
to the top of everyone else's
minds as well. That is
especially true given how much
the attempt to overturn the
2020, presidential election
results hangs over everything in
this contest. So give it all
that we brought miles on to talk
to us about what he is focusing
on. Hey miles, Hey Scott.
Hey Scott. Hey miles,
Hey Scott.
Let's start with the lawsuits,
because many are already being
filed. What do we need to know?
Yeah,
so there's kind of two major
buckets. I think voters can kind
of monitor lawsuits over the
next couple of weeks. One is
about how people actually be
casting ballots. The two big
kind of things we're watching
that still have yet to be
determined. One is in
Pennsylvania, big battleground
state, as you know, well,
there's a big legal battle
brewing over when people turn in
a mail ballot and there's some
sort of mistake on it, whether
that's they didn't put in the
right envelope or put the wrong
date on it, whether those
ballots should count.
Republicans argue they should
not. Democrats argue they should
in Georgia, we're monitoring
lawsuits related to the
administration the actual
counting of ballots. Listeners
are probably familiar. The
Georgia elections board has
passed a number of new rules in
recent weeks, and there's a
bunch of litigation deciding
whether those new rules should
stand.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is all
pro Trump changes, if I recall
correctly. So that, of course,
John C Dvorak: no, no.
Adam Curry: I thought the
John C Dvorak: Georgia thing is,
what's pro Trump about Georgia?
And they never say this. They
never tell you any of this. They
just said, well, blah, blah,
blah.
Unknown: They don't mention what
it is.
John C Dvorak: They never say
what it is. But the Georgia
thing is, they're going to hand
count all the ballots to make
sure that the machine count
matches, right? That would be
anything pro Trump
Adam Curry: because that was the
because Republicans hate the the
machines,
John C Dvorak: yeah, let's start
D bold.
Adam Curry: Well, no, yeah.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: so the other,
which is the doesn't do them
anymore. Of course, those are
the George Bush machines. The
other the other thing about the
ballot being in the wrong
envelope. What have you ever
mailed in and it comes with an
envelope? Wow, that just doesn't
make any sense. That would be
what you stuff into some rando
envelope. I don't know. You
know. Okay,
Adam Curry: hold on before you
continue just about this
specifically, Tina went to see
that the new D'souza movie,
which is vindicating Trump.
Yeah, Dinesh D'Souza, where
John C Dvorak: do you go see a
movie like that? It's in the
Adam Curry: theater. She, she
and her and her friend went,
actually in the theater. She and
her friend were the only two,
John C Dvorak: well, in theater.
Granted, it
Adam Curry: was 1130 in the
morning, but yeah, still
vindicating Trump. And she said,
she said, Of course, it's a
complete, you know, it's all pro
Trump, pro Trump. But what de
Souza apparently shows there is
how you can for like 35 bucks,
you can buy the voter roll, and
then you can just print all the
ballots you want. You know,
it's, it's very our voting
system is very simplistic. It
seems rather easy to Jack around
with, and if you're first before
you know before the actual
person gets to the ballot, and
it's like, hey, wait a minute,
you already voted, then that's
that's just one of the many ways
to cheat. It's no one trusts
this anymore.
John C Dvorak: It's because it's
poorly operated. No kidding,
it's been taken. Is Everyone's
been so lax about assuming it's
fine that they just let it slide
it. This is ridiculous. Well,
remember,
Adam Curry: the term is no
widespread fraud. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that's coming in
these clips. Okay, okay, so
Unknown: that's bucket one, the
process one, itself. What about
the second? The second
is, we've seen a bunch of
lawsuits. This happened in 2020,
as well. The Republicans have
been filing a number of lawsuits
that legal experts basically say
have no shot at succeeding, but
just serve to kind of inject
doubts about the process. These
are generally been lawsuits
focusing on the idea of non
citizens voting in American
elections. This is not an issue
that there is evidence has ever
happened in anything but
microscopic numbers. But in a
number of states, we've seen
lawsuits from Republicans
alleging that it is happening or
could happen.
Let's talk more about that,
because this is something you've
reported on a lot. This
narrative of non citizens
casting
ballots, there's been a pivot
from whether it's Donald Trump,
Elon Musk, a number of prominent
figures on the far right, to
start talking over the last few
months about non citizens voting
in this election. And it seems
to be working. We had a poll out
from NPR, PBS, news, Marist
College, out this week that
found that nine in 10
Republicans are concerned that
non citizens. Will vote in this
elections process, which you can
kind of see down the road, how
this could make it an effective
narrative should trump lose,
that he could focus on to try to
overturn this election.
Adam Curry: Here we go again.
There's, there's some truth to
that. You know, I have a 38
second clip. You can I insert
that? Yeah, I think so. This is
from Arizona.
Unknown: This new data set, as
they're calling it, brings the
total number of people impacted
to 218,000 instead of the 98,000
we first reported. These people
were mistakenly marked as having
provided documentary proof of
citizenship, and Arizona voter
registration database now has
correctly flagged the impacted
individuals. Election officials
say they will contact the
affected Arizonans with
information regarding their
status after the general
election. That means for now,
the Arizona Supreme Court's
ruling is going to stay. That
impacted voters, that includes
all of them, will still be able
to vote. You get
Adam Curry: to vote, no problem.
They go back later. Is this
going to be the big dispute?
Well, it was 218,000 we got to
call every single one of them
asked for the ID. Man, yeah, and
we still can't put someone on
the moon. What good are we? I'm
very down on all this,
John C Dvorak: the and the idea
that, I mean the way they
downplay the possibility of
some, I mean in Cal, like here,
I've said it before, I go to
vote, I go in person. I have
voted by mail to I do both. But
I went person, you
Adam Curry: vote twice. You vote
twice.
John C Dvorak: I could, you say,
she
Adam Curry: said, I do both. So
I'm just, I could okay,
John C Dvorak: but I'd only do
one, and California, it doesn't
make any difference. So I wanted
to go in to use the machines so
I could see what was going on
with the machines. Yeah, you
talked about this. Yes, I did.
Made a long talk about it, and
it just but I noticed they never
asked for ID. Never, never, have
ever asked for ID. It's not as
though they're asking for ID.
And now it's illegal in
California to ask for ID,
although you have to, you have
to ask for ID for liquor and all
the rest of it. But no, no
voting. Forget it. No, it's
Adam Curry: not it's not that
important. It's just not that
important. It's harder to get
out of jury duty, which is the
other side of voting, as far as
I'm concerned. Like, oh man, I
want to get out of your jury
duty. Don't need an ID to vote.
John C Dvorak: So here we go
three.
Unknown: Let's talk about
another impact over the ongoing
rhetoric around the 2020,
election, the ongoing claims
that Trump won the election,
which, again, he did not. He
lost the election, but we have
seen this real uptick in
harassment and threats to local
election
officials. I
Adam Curry: have not actually
seen any of this. Is there an
actual report of someone being
threatened?
John C Dvorak: There have been
reports in it stems from the
2020 election and the Georgia
people, all right, who were who
were threatened after the fact,
and I don't know that it's
happening, but
Adam Curry: I haven't seen any
reports of someone saying that
guy threatened me. You know,
this is just, this is rhetoric
here. This is rhetoric,
Unknown: right? And a lot of
time talking to what are you
hearing from them in terms of
the threats coming in and how
they're preparing for a really
tense few weeks.
There's a lot of nervousness.
And when I talk to election
officials the last couple weeks,
I think where's the interview
the reason is going back to this
poll I mentioned a second ago.
The poll found that a majority
of Americans right now are
concerned that voter fraud is
going to occur in this 2024,
election, even though there's
never been evidence of
widespread or systematic fraud,
widespread or systematic fraud
in American elections,
especially recently,
Adam Curry: you don't need
widespread fraud. You only need
a couple of states Exactly.
That's the beauty of that's
John C Dvorak: the that's the
point of saying white, yeah, you
don't have widespread you have
targeted, yeah, that exactly.
It's Can you swap out the word
widespread for targeted fraud?
They won't do it,
Adam Curry: yeah? Because that's
all you need with the electoral
college. That's how it works.
You need a couple targeted
fraud. Yeah? And one way to do
that, and Arizona,
John C Dvorak: by the way, was
one of the targets. And yes,
it's fairly obvious. It keeps
coming up. Information keeps
coming to light. And who
Adam Curry: and who targeted?
Who was the first to target
Arizona? Fox News. They called
Arizona when there was 1% of the
votes were in Fox News. That's
John C Dvorak: a good point.
Yeah, Fox News, definitely and
and
Adam Curry: I would pay
attention to Fox News this time
around as well. These people are
the media chooses who wins in
our country. I'm staking my
reputation on it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: all right. Last
clip
Unknown: the fact that election
officials have spent the last
four years trying to educate
voters. All the myriad security
processes they have in place
that make it so fraud is so rare
and especially hard to pull off
at like a statewide or a
Adam Curry: federal race, right?
What's with all the laughters,
bro,
Unknown: that make it so fraud
is so rare and especially hard
to pull off at like a statewide
or a federal race, right?
They've been trying to educate
those right really clear. It's
made a dent because Donald Trump
and other Republicans have
continued hammering this issue,
though, I will say election
officials are optimistic that
they're in a better position to
respond to some of those doubts
this time around. Specifically,
they're working closer than they
ever have before with law
enforcement, whether that's
around polling places or
certifications, thinking about
after the election. And so I
think election officials are a
little bit dejected at the tone
and tenor in which some voters
are thinking about the election
this time around, but they're
feeling definitely better
prepared for it. Yeah,
what are you anticipating when
it comes to how people cast
their votes? Are you
anticipating less early voting,
mail in, voting the 2020, or
what? Well,
based on the conversations I've
had, both with experts and some
poll results that we've seen, it
seems like the trend towards
early voting is continuing. If
you actually zoom out and look
at like, think about in like,
2000 or 2004 almost all voters.
More than 80% of voters, cast
their ballot in person on
election day, right? Whereas now
there is the expectation that
the majority of voters will vote
early in this election, whether
that's early in person or by
mail. It is not a kind of height
of the pandemic moment. So we
are definitely going to see less
mail voting than we saw in 2020
but I think the majority of
votes in this election cycle,
probably in the 55 to 60% range,
are going to be cast early this
time.
John C Dvorak: Two Two things
that have to be pointed out,
yes, and I didn't. I could have
gotten gone back and found the
super clip of this, but there
was a super clip floating around
from 2016 where all the
Democrats are talking about a
fraudulent vote, and Trump was
not the, not my president. He
got in, you know, and Hillary
was the leader of the gang of
this, oh, we got gypped, you
know, as a fraud. It was a fake.
It was a phony. So the Democrats
are just as guilty of this
complaining as anybody. And but
they seem to go all of a sudden,
that seems to have disappeared.
And then the other thing is, the
Democrats, once again, back in,
I don't know, the 80s, maybe the
70s, they put together a big
panel showing how, a study group
showing how mail in ballots are
so easy to phony up and to, you
know, to make the Election
fraudulent. And there's all,
mostly Democrats on this panel.
And it and it was, it came out,
and they used to talk about
this, this, this, this discuss.
This was discussed during the
2016 election, when they thought
Trump stole the election, and
now that's not being discussed
anymore either. These guys are
terrible at journalism.
Adam Curry: No, they're doing
they're fantastic. They're doing
their actual job to to make the
donors to NPR happy.
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
me you, I didn't want to do
this, yeah, okay, but that
brings me to the two clips.
Okay, you're up, actually three
clips, but there's just two main
ones, which is the ambush clips.
And I took this from Megyn
Kelly's show.
Adam Curry: Go, go. Wow, you're
watching Megyn Kelly now. Oh,
John C Dvorak: this. It was the
clips that showed up, and I it
was, since I was stealing the
clips from her show, I might as
well let, let her also introduce
the clips. And these are some
James O'Keefe found some had is
one of his women. You've
Adam Curry: seen this this, by
the way, this is a she is. This
is the best example of the
culture war economy. This is how
we all make money. Now, we've
got to be all outraged. We got
undercover video We're all mad
about is crazy. It
John C Dvorak: is pretty funny
in that regard, if you from that
perspective, definitely. Yeah.
But this poor doofus sounds
pretty. I guess he's O'Keefe.
Got a couple of
Adam Curry: women on the Oh,
yeah, of course. Honey potting.
These
John C Dvorak: guys, right?
Honey pots is what we used to
call it, the business. It's
beautiful, yes. And so they got
this poor sucker from MSNBC, one
of the producers. These are the
guys, if you do any hits on any
of these shows, if you're in
that, if you're doing spots,
it's the producers who call you.
They're the ones who booked you.
They do all the work
Adam Curry: and do the pre
interview and make sure that you
know exactly what you're going
to say, so they know it. So they
can do the lead in, they can
time it perfectly, and you're
good to go.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then so
they can also write the copy for
the news reader, yeah, so they
get everything works smoothly.
It's its way. It's just the way
it is. And so here's some dumb
schlub who's named by Megan in
the second clip, getting Honey
potted into stupidity. All knew
Unknown: this about MSNBC, but
it's still interesting to hear a
producer at the network. Admit
it, saying the following. Watch,
do you feel like MSNBC is doing
enough to help the Harris
campaign?
I mean, they're doing all they
can, which is why amplify her
message? What? What her message
of the day is, is their message
of the day. This hammers home
the point that I'm making, that
this news network is
indistinguishable from the
party. Are
they just a Democratic Party's
mouthpiece? Exactly. MSNBC is
the Democratic Party's
mouthpiece. He
Adam Curry: kind of says it a
bit like with disdain, like he's
he even finds it somewhat
disgusting. Or am I mishearing
that?
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I
he's got a smile on his face, so
I'm not sure that's true. All
right? Well, in audio, sticky
smiling at her, and he's going
in line, and she's asking
leading questions. Of some
you're on a date. Hey, some
girls leading you on with these
sorts of what are you creating
questions? How
Adam Curry: hard up for a date
are you that you're gonna let
this shutting up? Come on, you
don't choose? Oh, man, yes,
crazy, yeah,
Unknown: so it's MSNBC, just
like doing whatever it takes to
get his home a real update.
She's
Adam Curry: even asking the
questions like an interviewer.
How can this guy not know what's
going on? Yes,
Unknown: they've made their
viewers dumber over the years.
Viewers get mad at the guests or
the hosts, if the host were to
criticize Democrats because
they're so brainwashed.
Yes, and to think, you know, the
Democratic Party can
do no wrong, not that they can't
do any wrong. It's maybe they
can do wrong. I just don't want
to hear about it. Don't say it
out loud, because if you say it
out loud, it helps Trump. I
think brainwashing and dumbing
down, it's bad, aggressive. I
get it helps Trump. You
Adam Curry: know, what I think
I'm hearing from him is that he
finds it all despicable. He
probably thinks Kamala Harris is
dumb, but the brainwashing has
taken place in him that, oh, no,
Trump's gonna get rid of the
Constitution. He's gonna get rid
of our democracy. I think that's
what I'm hearing. You know, it's
like, you know, he's going to
rip up the Constitution on day
one. He's going to be a dictator
from day one, all of these
things has seeped into his
brain, and he just believes it.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it could be. I
mean, I'm not sure he's talking
too much about it. And you know,
if you're going to be sneaky,
like this guy, or like the whole
network. I mean, it's the kind
of thing you'd be a little more
I think,
Adam Curry: well, it's not
sneaky. Then again, wait,
John C Dvorak: wait, let me
correct myself. It's possible
that they're not being, you
know, they are brainwashing and
dumbing down their pocket, but
they think they're doing it for
a good cause, for
Adam Curry: America, yeah, from
America. From
John C Dvorak: America, yeah,
yeah. I can. I can, yeah, I
can't argue against that
possibility, which has always
been my argument, which is that
sincerity on the part of these
people is quite high,
Adam Curry: but they are also,
they are, by extension, part of
the entire administrative state.
They also feel like they're part
of it. They're in DC, they're
going to the same parties.
They're hanging out with the
same people. They have a little
bit of a little bit of power
because, oh, I'm on TV, you
know, oh, you're important from
time to time. Can give me your
cell number. I can give you a
call, you know, when I hear
something that, you know, of
course, I'm going to be leaking
on purposely to you, but, you
know, it might be inside track.
It make you look good. You know,
they're, they're a part of that
system. The entire This is, what
is the Is it 4 million people
that work for the, for the, for
all administrative agencies?
John C Dvorak: I think it's
higher than that. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: it's, it's to coin a
mike Ben's phrase, it's the
blob, and they are part of the
blob, and they've and they feel
that they're an important part
of it. So this has nothing to do
with journalism. No, I'm sorry
it does. This is what they're
taught in Journalism School,
John C Dvorak: Jesus nowadays.
JC, so, yes, yeah,
Adam Curry: this is and look at
the professor, Jeff Jarvis. No,
not Jeff Jarvis, the other guy,
who's the that, who's the, ah,
who's the professor, who, who's
John C Dvorak: rosin. Rosen,
Adam Curry: yeah, Jay Rosen,
John C Dvorak: Jay Rosen, well,
Jarvis and Rosen are very
similar. I think Jarvis has been
same guy. I don't know if he's
what, they're the same guy,
basically, yes, the same basis,
basically the same guy.
Adam Curry: And, you know, and
they're out there teaching and
also yelling because I followed
them, I think they're on
Mastodon, like the New York
Times, dude, they put this Trump
travesty on page nine
John C Dvorak: once in a while.
It's knee jerk, yeah, well,
they're
Adam Curry: disappointed in the
New York Times because the New
York Times didn't caught them
out.
John C Dvorak: Then there must
be reasons. There's a very
strong movement amongst supposed
journalists of Slant the news,
and they talk about it openly. I
Adam Curry: have a after you're
done with these. MSM, yeah,
because. The
John C Dvorak: rest of this is
Megan and her and her friend
that's that's on the show,
mocking the whole thing. And I
kept these two clips because I
thought it was good enough that
it would be worth a listen. Poor
basil Hamden,
Unknown: pro tip, when your date
sounds more like the Inquisitor
at a deposition and has her
handbag pointed at you just ask
you to speak into it a note of
caution before you, before you
offer your unvarnished It was
unbelievable. Like, yeah, would
you say yes, I would.
Adam Curry: Hey, we should, you
know, can we do Pro Tip of the
day we get on that train, pro
tip and don't drink, like,
Unknown: don't get so, you know,
fuzzy that you're sort of like
spouting proudly what you're
doing. I mean, my favorite part
of that clip Megan is when he
says, We're dumbing our audience
down. Like this is the
viewership that likes to feel
like they're so high on their
own supply of, like, moral self
righteousness. Uh, Pot, kettle
black, hello, and that every
political position that's
espoused by this network, that's
Adam Curry: exactly what Megyn
Kelly does, is exactly the same
thing, only she's a podcaster,
only
Unknown: true and correct one,
and he's basically saying, we've
we've done them down, and we've
brainwashed them, and it's good
for us. And it's, you know,
like, let's just not get Trump
elected. It's and the way he
said, like he's smiling, he's
like, he thinks it's funny. He's
kind of proud of it. It seems
like, I mean it like I could
watch that thing on a loop. It's
amazing.
This is all I could think of a
couple of months ago when they
were all indignant about Ronna
McDaniel being hired as a
contributor after she left the
RNC, and they acted like the
devil himself had been under
contract now to MS, they all
went on the air trying to get
her fired, which was ultimately
successful, talking about
themselves and their network
like they were honest, Abe
themselves. They, you know, like
George Washington, we cannot
tell a lie. Here at MSNBC, we
could not possibly hire someone
who lies from pay. Remember, we
cut this sound bite and I
resurrected here.
Adam Curry: You know the thing,
the thing that gets me is that
in this culture war economy,
Megyn Kelly on the front lines,
if, she would talk about
something else, anything but,
but playing, you know, MSNBC
clips and the outrage, then no
one would see it. It's because
of
John C Dvorak: this. Yes, this
about, Is this, like log
rolling? Yes, it's like, it's,
it's called modeling post modern
versus modern of log rolling. It
is, yeah, because it's like,
Hey, you want go watch MSNBC.
Wait a minute. What? What?
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Oh,
wait, you don't have to. I'll
play a clip.
John C Dvorak: So here's the
clip she plays, which I thought
was a good clip, because it was
we played this clip before. But
it's, I like it, because the
very last thing that's said on
the clip is it makes it worth
playing again.
Unknown: I want to associate
myself with all my colleagues,
both at MSNBC and at NBC News,
who have voiced loud and
principled objections to our
company putting on the payroll,
someone who hasn't just attacked
us as journalists, but someone
who is part of an ongoing
project to get rid of our system
of government.
We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring, but if we were, we
would have strongly objected to
it
when NBC made the decision to
give her NBC News's credibility,
you got to ask yourself, what
does she bring? NBC News,
we welcome Republican. I wish
more Republican. I want Adam
Kinzinger and Liz Cheney to get
right here and come talk to me.
The reality is, this isn't a
difference of opinion. She
literally backed an illegal
scheme to steal
an election in the state of
Michigan,
and our democracy is in danger
because of the lies that people
like Ronna McDaniel have pushed
on this country,
not just they can do that on our
airwaves, but if they can do
that as one of us carrying
employees of NBC News, hey,
contributors to our sacred
airwaves? Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah, that was
John C Dvorak: we did airway
airwaves.
Adam Curry: And of course, we're
also participating in this
scandalous behavior,
John C Dvorak: yeah, no, we're
log rolling.
Adam Curry: We are log rolling
now. We
John C Dvorak: don't get any
rollback. They don't plug us.
There's
Adam Curry: no backlinks, man,
no ping backs, no ping backs. I
John C Dvorak: should probably
stop doing these clips, so
Adam Curry: the turn Yes. Well,
if we stop doing these clips,
there'd be no show,
John C Dvorak: except we know.
We just know those clips. I just
played those three clips of
Megan, the guy, and we could, if
I took those out of the show,
there would still be a
Adam Curry: show. Yeah, okay, it
would be three minutes shorter.
John C Dvorak: It'd be three
minutes shorter. It's about the
difference. So here's, it's
probably good.
Adam Curry: Here's the term,
here's the term, the term, and
just as we were talking about
with Rosen and Jarvis, the term
is, it's. Sane washing? Yes, we
have a term over here at CNN,
there's a
Unknown: new word being used in
this campaign, or at least new
to me, sane washing. And that's
the notion that the media
actually, contrary to what Brian
said, the media is cleaning up
some of Trump's more outlandish
remarks. For instance, here's
Trump this week talking about a
person in this country illegally
who killed someone.
She murdered him. In my opinion,
Kamala murdered him just like
she did, just like she had a gun
in her hand,
but he but here was the AP
headline about the speech Trump
rallies in Wisconsin's critical
Democratic stronghold ahead of
the vice presidential debate, no
mention of Trump accusing his
opponent, Vice President Harris,
of, in effect, murder.
Adam Curry: Oh no,
Unknown: what?
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, yeah, that
John C Dvorak: it now you got
you bordering on making a that,
that clip. Well, there's another
we should talk about insane.
This should be insane washing.
Adam Curry: Is the second half
is the
Unknown: media sanewashing Some
of Trump's comments,
I think it is the role of the
media to report on what happens.
I do not think it is the role of
the media to tell people how
they should feel about it. And I
think right now, there is a lot
of befuddlement on the part of
people don't like Donald Trump.
Anybody could possibly want to
see Donald Trump back in the
White House. And so they're
looking for reasons to say,
Well, gosh, maybe it's just that
the 47% of America that likes
Donald Trump and wants to vote
for him again is just they've
become immune to the idea that
he's crazy and it's the media's
fault. But it is really that a
lot of Americans have just
decided, You know what, I'm
willing to take the good with
the bad, and for them, they
think no amount of crazy is too
much.
John C Dvorak: So wait so, so
Trump, in his speech, delivers
what's more or less a metaphor
by making the claim that Kamala
is the murderer for letting a
murderer murder. Yeah, it was
Adam Curry: very similar, more
or less, Trump incited an
insurrection kind of the same
thing. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So, so that is,
somehow, that should be report.
I don't understand what they're
trying to tell us here. They're
Adam Curry: trying to get a word
into the dictionary so they can
say, Well, we did it. Has word
of the year. Well,
John C Dvorak: by the way,
that's a very important thing.
I've always this been one of my
is that one of your goals? Yeah,
everybody, everyone who's ever
been a writer, always has that.
Well,
Adam Curry: we might, we just
might get douchebag, oh, a
douchebags already in there bags
and is and is there any word
that we, that we can get, we can
promote to get into the
John C Dvorak: dictionary. Have
to look new. We have the top my
head, like,
Adam Curry: you know, we've got
some, we got some. So sane wash
this. Trump did a return to
Butler, Pennsylvania, big crowd.
What I could see, I don't know
how many people, a big crowd. It
was just a couple of clips
showing it was a big crowd. It
was big crowd. And brings out
Elon Musk, yeah, who is jumping
around like a like a maniac.
It's
John C Dvorak: like a spaz.
Adam Curry: Like, like a spaz.
And here was the core of what he
said for tech billionaire
Unknown: Elon Musk, it was the
first appearance at a Trump
rally. He urged listeners to
tell everyone they knew to
register to vote and framed the
election as a last stand for
American democracy.
I'm dark mega
Adam Curry: What's this dark
Maga nonsense?
John C Dvorak: I think. What is
that? I don't know if he said
dark or Darth. No, I think he
said dark. Well, if you said
dark or Darth, that's because he
had a black Maga hat. Oh, okay.
Oh, and it said it was, it was a
black hat, and in black threads,
it said, Make America great. He
said, dork, Maga, dork, mag and
then he had a shirt on that
said, occupy Mars. Yeah, yeah.
Okay. He's, he's being himself,
but I like the hat.
Adam Curry: Well, no, I don't
like the hat because it's off
brand the hat. You cannot like
that. I like that. It's off
brand.
John C Dvorak: This reminds,
well, it is off brand. But this
reminds me of years ago I went
to a raider Kansas City game,
and because the Raider fans are
kind of insane, and they would
beat you up if you were like,
wearing Kansas City colors at a
game like this. Oh, and so I was
sitting next to something, and
he had the black Raider colors,
but on the Raider sweater shirt
sweatshirt, it was actually said
Kansas City Chiefs in the Raider
colors. And it was very cute.
And I said, That's a great idea.
Says You better believe it. You
have to be careful around here.
So that's what he was doing with
the black hat. I equated it with
that sort of thinking, Okay,
well, back to dork Maga and
Unknown: frames the election as
a last stand for American
democracy.
Dark mega
text, people now.
Now and then make sure they
actually do vote. If they don't,
this will be the last election.
That's my prediction.
Adam Curry: Nothing's more
important this last election
John C Dvorak: thing, yeah, it's
getting on my nerves, too. Yeah,
well,
Adam Curry: so in my general
sphere, we have a family member
who exclusively watches MSNBC is
completely that's okay, because
we all love each other, and we
could just say we're not gonna
talk politics and completely
believes that, you know, Trump
will destroy the Constitution,
rip it up, that he's going to do
away with democracy. There will
be no elections. So this is now
playing on both sides. As an
aside from the circles here in
the hill country, I can tell
you, the latest meme is, there's
not going to be an election this
year, because they're going to
bring down the grid, I know.
John C Dvorak: And this spreads
getting better by the minute.
This spreads
Adam Curry: like and you know,
people are asking me, How should
I get a sat phone? So who you
gonna call? If the grid is down,
who are you gonna call? We
John C Dvorak: gonna call you
this year. You have a did you
tell him to get a ham radio?
Adam Curry: You know, I have
received multiple inquiries from
people about ham radios. Yeah, I
have to say, Hey, what should I
get? I said, first you need a
license.
John C Dvorak: I never thought
about that. Yeah, well, the list
you need a license. Just get a
license. Everybody
Adam Curry: knows it's to get
your technicians. Ham radio
operator license is incredibly
simple. You go to a rrl.org, you
look for technicians license,
and you'll find out where the
test is usually done once a
month, and in your area, it's
going to be a bunch of hams who
administer the test, I think
they're called VAs and and they
give you the exact questions for
that month's test, with all the
answers and multiple choice. The
only thing is, the answers will
be in a different order on the
John C Dvorak: test. Well,
there'll also be different
questions. No,
Adam Curry: they might all the
but you get all the questions.
No, all
John C Dvorak: the questions are
there, yeah, but they may just
as an example. Say, for example,
the test has 100 questions.
They'll give you 150 questions
with all the answers and
questions, and if you can
remember all of those, you can
take the test and easily pass
it. Yes, correct.
Adam Curry: See as you don't get
all of them. That's right, but
you get all of them on the
tests.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get all
of them from the sample. There's
no surprise question, no, no,
like you get at the DMV and I
Adam Curry: and here's an
example of a question, should
you think about putting an
antenna up during a lightning
storm? I think that was one of
the, I
John C Dvorak: don't remember
that. I
Adam Curry: think it was one of
the questions, maybe for Texas.
But there's, it really is quite
simple. And then you can get a
Bao Fang, or any of these
radios, and you can do it away,
by the
John C Dvorak: way, if you're a
computer guy, and most of our
lot of our audience are dudes
named Ben, you already know the
answers. Don't most of these
questions, because there are a
lot of them are just technical,
technical questions that you
would know normally in your day
to day life.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And so then
all you need to figure out is
how a repeater works. That's
what saved. Let's save lives in
in North Carolina. And what I
would recommend for the
computer, guys and gals, is
learn how to use one of these
digital programs, because with
very, very low output and a wire
hung up in a tree, you can
actually get a lot done,
John C Dvorak: just don't put
the wire up during an electrical
storm. That's uh, answer
Adam Curry: D on question 79
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah, yes. People
have to realize that the
question and there are tests,
there are online tests, and you
go to one of those, you don't
take, don't read the long book.
There's like an A, I think aarl
has, God no, no, giant book that
you're supposed to read. Don't
read the book. Go to one of the
online, this is like Tip of the
Day. Go to one of the online Q
and A's, and they'll give you
the this month's, this month's
or this quarter's questions, and
one after the after the other,
after the other, and then it
gives you a grade. And you keep
taking the test over and over
and over again. You could take
it maybe five or six. You can
take as many times as you want,
but after about the fourth time,
you'll get you'll get it more
than your than your passing
grade. And then you can go take
the test and you'll just pass.
Yeah, and do it now.
Adam Curry: Don't wait. Do it
now.
John C Dvorak: Let's do it now.
I
Adam Curry: agree. Have you
renewed your license? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: renewed it months
and months. Oh, good, yeah,
good, good. I
Adam Curry: just want to make
sure.
John C Dvorak: No, I told people
to remind me, and I find I did
it and and it would. There was
something. I had a story about
it too. There was some screwy
thing about it. Oh, renewing.
Oh, really, yeah, I talked about
on the show. And I can't
remember what it was, but
there's some number. There was
some I thought was like, well,
this doesn't make any sense, but
okay,
Adam Curry: they charge you more
money. No, there's, I
John C Dvorak: don't even think
it was. I think it was, it may
have been free, but there was
some, some mishap that was
involved in irksome
Adam Curry: while we're kind of
on, although we've moved off, a
little bit about about social
media. I'm not quite sure what
Hillary Clinton was. First of
all, she was on smirconish,
smirconish. And I guess she's,
she's plugging her book,
smirconish, you know, CNN,
Smerconish, who's this supposed
to be kind of easy douche, MER
dosh ish and, and I think this
is a message to the social media
companies. I'm not quite sure
it's like a pressure campaign or
it has to have something to do
with the elections, otherwise,
why would she even be
interviewed? So it's about kids
and social media, as you
Unknown: rightly point out,
Michael in the book, I write
about how I don't think our kids
are all right because I think
they become addicted to social
media. I think the phones in
their pockets or their purses
have a huge impact on how they
spend their time, whether they
interact with other people. And
now we know that very often kids
are affected by anxiety or
depression, or, you know, all
kinds of problems that are at
least connected to, if not
caused by this addiction to the
screen. So
I was happy to see you cite the
work of Robert Putnam. Bowling
Alone made an impact on me, the
discussion of social capital, of
the sort that I'm sure the
rodhams enjoyed in Park Ridge,
right? Participation, belonging,
volunteerism.
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
that the rodhams enjoyed in Park
Ridge? What is that? Is that,
where she grew up, in Park
Ridge,
John C Dvorak: I You got me. All
I know is there's nothing wrong
with bowling alone if you're a
bowler that is so miserable.
Unknown: Jonathan Haidt. You
cite gene twangy. Here's what
disappoints me, and it's not
about you, madam, Secretary, I'm
shocked that no person, no
Republican, no democrat, is
championing this issue. The
Social Science is so clear. The
Political Science is so clear.
Our fabric is frayed as a
nation. Our kids are
disconnected too much time
behind closed doors on devices,
and not enough time replicating
the experience of their parents
and grandparents.
Adam Curry: Okay, so that's kind
of the setup, but then she
hammers it home. And here, I
think, is the is the threat,
you're
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things
done,
Adam Curry: we should. That's
interesting. Legislative
political agenda, not
legislative health agenda.
Legislative political agenda.
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's an
interesting catch. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that and I just
heard this now. Oh, wait a
minute, you don't actually care
about the kids unless they're
voting, which they're too young
for. You're
Unknown: absolutely right. This
should be at the top of every
legislative political agenda.
There should be a lot of things
done. We should be, in my view,
repealing something called
Section 230 which gave, you
know, platforms on the internet,
John C Dvorak: stop, stop, and
back it up. The what because of
what you just caught, the
Democrats have captured the
educational system of primary
education, secondary education
and colleges of all as
brainwashing tools. Yes, for
political purposes, they lost
this one, and now this what,
this is, what she's really
talking about. This is a an
element of control that they
don't have control of, and they
lost it. And this is where she
where she's all freaked out
Unknown: playing something
called Section 230 which gave,
you know, platforms on the
internet immunity, because they
were thought to be just pass
throughs that they shouldn't be
judged for the content that is
posted. But we now know that
that was an overly simple view,
that if the platforms, whether
it's Facebook or Twitter, x or
notice
Adam Curry: Facebook comes
first, because, you know,
Zuckerberg is now turned into a
bro. Zuckerberg, he's got his
hairs all along. He no longer
has that Caesar, that dorky
Caesar cut. He's got long bro
hair. He's doing Taekwondo. He's
John C Dvorak: like ketamine to
me
Unknown: full view that if the
platforms, whether it's Facebook
or Twitter, x or Instagram or
Tiktok, whatever they are, if
they don't. Moderate and monitor
the content, we lose total
control. And it's not just
social and psychological
effects. It's real harm. It's,
you know, child porn and threats
of violence.
John C Dvorak: We lose total
control. Yeah, it's not that we
lose we're losing control the
way she phrases it, we lose
total control, because right now
they have total control over the
mechanism of information
Adam Curry: we have Yes, yes,
exactly. And so we were losing
our
John C Dvorak: total she should
have said, Are we lose this?
We're losing total control.
Should be we're losing our total
control over the information
flow. She freaked out about
Adam Curry: it. Yes, yes, and
mainly about Zuckerberg. We lose
Unknown: total control. And it's
not just the social and
psychological effects. It's real
harm. It's, you know, child porn
and threats of violence, things
that are terribly dangerous. So
I couldn't agree with you more,
we need to remove the immunity
from liability, and we need to
have guard rails. We need
regulation. We
Adam Curry: need to remove the
immunity from liability, okay?
So that can be like, Okay, now I
understand what she's saying, by
the way, yeah,
John C Dvorak: I I've been on
Twitter since, I don't know,
2007 or something like your OG.
I'm an ODE close to it. I have
never seen child porn on
Twitter, ever. I've never seen
it on Instagram. I've never seen
it on Facebook. I don't have a
Facebook account, but I can
sneak it on there sometimes, and
or somebody else's account. And
I've never seen i She's talking
about
Adam Curry: frazzle drip. I
Unknown: couldn't agree with you
more. We need to remove the
immunity from liability, and we
need to have guard rails. We
need regulation. We've conducted
this big experiment on ourselves
and particularly our kids, and I
think the evidence is in that
we've got to do more.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got to do
more. Yeah. NPR had a very,
very, just, very short clip
here. About as it pertains to
social media, another new term.
Unknown: Researchers have found
a phenomenon called belief
regression. It's when a
correction to misinformation
works really well in the short
term, but over
time, people's belief kind of
creeps towards these pre
correction levels, and what we
found is it's mostly down to
memory.
So it's worth repeating that
corrections to misinformation
are worth repeating.
Adam Curry: NPR, all
John C Dvorak: of hammer them.
Hammer them again, all of them.
All of them.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Well, it's all kind of fun
for the show. For the show, it's
great fun. I got a boots on the
ground from Dame aquamarine, and
she says, You know, I'm an avid
reader who's been reading
popular fiction. Have been a
member of book clubs in two
different states, in both public
library and private groups for
over 10 years. I hate to say it,
but I believe. And she says, The
Norman Lear foundation, but it
could be in any it's it's, well,
actually, I said I would read
this because you would be able
to explain it better. Because
about publishing, the Norman
Lear Foundation has infiltrated
popular literature in the
offices of the editors and the
offices of the booksellers.
Examples below. It used to be
that a book might contain
characters or situations that
were thought provoking and would
add to the story. Now, the
subjects seem to be added for no
real reason other than to
mention them. The Hunting Party
by Lisa Foley, climate change
mentioned often, and I mean
often I get it. It's hot and dry
in Ireland in the summer, the
measure, by Nikki Elric, a lot
is made of the lesbian
relationship between two of the
main characters. It was not just
the mention of the relationship,
but discussing the relationship
over and over again, also
climate change and interracial
relationships. And my favorite,
she says, mad Honey by Jodi pilk
Pikul and Jennifer Finney,
Bolin, boilin, I could only get
through 150 pages, and in that
150 pages, the following
subjects were included in the
story, suicide, domestic abuse,
anger management, climate
change, chan transgenderism,
gender reassignment at a young
age, interracial marriage,
lesbianism, gay marriage,
police, oppression of blacks and
alcoholism. I used to enjoy
Jodie picoul As an author, and
enjoyed many of her previous
books. They were formulaic, but
they were enjoyable. During this
book, I felt lectured
constantly, especially if I
didn't agree. It was frustrating
to me a no agenda listener to
hear how other readers felt for
the author's views. I was in the
lone voice when I brought up the
sterilization of long term
mental health outcomes. So I
said, you know, John would know
what's wrong with the publishing
industry.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's not
much to it. As. Just the people
who do people it. They're not
well paid. And so it's like
journalists. You have a low paid
crowd that is a very socialist,
because they want more money.
And they, they promote these
ideas, and they, and there's a
group think the all the whole
publishing company will probably
be is probably turned woke. I
Adam Curry: was gonna say how
many publishing companies are?
There are, there are, there's
about
John C Dvorak: 100 I guess are
Adam Curry: all of them woke?
John C Dvorak: I think most of
them are. Now, nowadays, yeah,
it's like, the same as the
newspapers. Oh, yeah, the
newspapers are. It's, there's no
difference. The newspapers are a
publishing company only. They do
a different type of publishing.
They publish a daily, yeah, a
daily tome. I mean, if you look
at a newspaper that thinks the
size of a book often, if you put
it and made it into pages, yeah?
So they're publishing books too,
in terms of volume of words,
and, yeah, they're all woke.
It's because the low pay, I
think, has a lot to do with it.
Then they tend to be unionized
the newspapers, for sure, yeah,
yeah, it's just, it's just the
people after
Adam Curry: Ford, Harley
Davidson, John Deere, Black and
Decker. Now Toyota walking back
their diversity equity and
inclusion programs saying they
will no longer sponsor cultural
events and parades such as LGBTQ
plus pride.
John C Dvorak: But I think, I
think it's less walking back and
more of them recognizing that
these things have become lewd
events. Dale gay pride parade
used to be a kind of, you know,
people doing a parade in San
Francisco and elsewhere, yeah.
And it was, you know, you bring
your kids. It was like a parade.
It was kind of cute, but they
became lewd events where they
had the guys, the last go round
they had in San Francisco, a
area where there was a bunch of
these plastic swimming pools.
They're peeing on each other.
Yeah, got it, you know, you can,
you're gonna sponsor that. This
is just a brand the state, brand
safety. What's that phrase that
is used all the time? Brand
safe, brand safety. Yeah,
there's not just not. These are
not brand safe events anymore.
So Toyota back out. It's not
because of, Oh, they've gone
anti dei it's because they've
gone they're brand safe, they're
the same as they are with
everything, and they're not
idiots. They're not going to be
associated with a bunch of guys
peeing on each other in public.
Adam Curry: Oh, what a loss for
the cause. They're Toyota's
walking us back. Man, it's no
good. All right, so the dock
workers strike ended very
abruptly, very quickly, with a
lot of fuzz, as in, what really
happened? Dock
Unknown: workers across the
eastern United States on
Thursday celebrated the news
that this week's strike was
ending quickly. I'm happy for
them, so
they can get back to work and
take care of their families. I
mean, they've been they been out
here for three days around the
clock, so this is a good thing
for everybody. It's a good thing
for the state, the port and all
the members here and all their
families. The
International longshoremen
Association launched their first
walkout since 1977 after
negotiations stalled over union
demands for significant wage
increases and protection against
automation related job loss, the
strike involved 45,000 workers
and paralyzed ports. From Maine
to Texas, at least 45 container
vessels unable to unload were
anchored outside the ports by
Wednesday, up from just three
before the strike began,
analysts cautioned that a long
strike could pose a major
economic headwind, leading to
shortages and raising prices at
a time when inflation has been
moderating. Under the tentative
agreement, dockworkers will
receive a 62% salary increase
over six years. The Union and
the United States Maritime
Alliance have agreed to extend
the existing contract until
January 15 while they negotiate
other outstanding issues.
Adam Curry: So Daggett, whatever
his name is, he was very clear,
77% five bucks across the board,
they settled for less for this
temporary halt, and just in
essence, punted it ahead until
after the election, right before
the insurrection can take place.
John C Dvorak: We have a boots
on the ground report from
someone we do, who lives next
door to these people.
Adam Curry: Oh, do you have it?
I don't have that. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: do. I thought you
had it. No, I
Adam Curry: don't. I don't.
Don't
John C Dvorak: expose my
identity, please. I live in the
got the home of mob union boss
Harold
Adam Curry: New Jersey. The guy
in New Jersey, yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah, was a boss
Harold, yeah, Daggett, along
with other execs of the ILA and
about 1.75 About 175 ILA
employees. We are in the woods.
Harrah is going to retire this
year. And he was told by many
around he has to do this strike
because he needs to beef up his
retirement, which I think sounds
right.
Adam Curry: How does the strike
beef up your retirement? Because
you
John C Dvorak: when you retire,
you go out at a higher amount of
money. You get
Adam Curry: a bigger percentage.
He already makes $800,000
John C Dvorak: he wants to make
more. Oh, please. It's still
going to be a percentage of it,
but I don't know. Maybe it's
100% but I don't know what their
retirement looks like. He says
Dennis will not be at the
negotiating table with Donald
Trump. By the way, some of the
rank and file were letting me
know that they did not support
the strike. They were required
to be walking in circles with
signs they didn't like the
strike, and it says they were
pissed because Harold Dennis and
the other bigwoods continue to
get paid. No, okay, yeah, but
they're, apparently they're both
Trump's. Everyone's a Trump
supporter, including the rank
and file and these guys. And I
think now this is, I gotta take
too much credit for this, for
the show, but when we brought up
the fact that if they go on the
strike and meat is re is
reintroduced to the American
public market, yeah, it will
lower the prices of beef, lower
the price of groceries and and
inflation will go down, right?
It will hurt with Trump. Can we
pay? We couldn't
Adam Curry: have that. Okay,
okay, two things start to make
sense. One dag it. He needed to
go beyond January then, because,
oh, I'm retiring. So there's
that part solved. And then
indeed it would, it would. It
would actually benefit the the
Harris campaign. But still, the
real issue here, it seems so
obvious to me the deeper I look
into it, it's the automation
part.
John C Dvorak: No, no, they
don't want that the point, but
they have, we have to
Adam Curry: have automation.
John C Dvorak: It'll happen.
It'll be built in no matter what
the how much noise they make
those it's the guy. What's going
to happen is the as the
employees, uh, kind of expire.
In other words, you know,
they've been there long enough,
when they're removed, when they
quit, when they retire, the
retire, their jobs will be
replaced by automation. So it's
not going to hurt any current
employees the automation, yeah,
I mean, because in China,
they're all those little, this
crazy looking, I don't know what
to even call them these like, I
don't know what to call them,
but they carry around the
containers around the yard. We
got, I got to know it from
somebody else who said, you
know, this is we need
automation, because you have to
time you you can't find your
load. Nobody knows what the hell
is going on. No, you sit in your
truck driving around
Adam Curry: terrible. And if you
look at the Port of Rotterdam,
that thing's almost completely
automated. They still have 4000
5000 workers, but it's not
50,000 and and the and the whole
idea of containers was
automation. It was stacking. It
was simple.
John C Dvorak: That was the
idea, exactly standardized.
Container idea was, it was a
revolution, and it was largely
because of you could, you could
automate it, yeah, as opposed to
loading, you know that you if
you looked at the old movies
from the 50s, and you see the
how they loaded a ship with a
bag full of shit, they dropped
it in the hole and sorted out.
He was just a joke like compared
to today,
Adam Curry: right? Just dropped.
The claw opened up. Good to go.
Yeah. So anyway, the good news
is the economy's doing great. We
had 250,000 jobs. Of course, if
you look into the report, you
see that 1.1 million citizens,
American citizens, lost their
jobs. Or like, no, was it? It
was, it was some. It was like,
most of the new jobs are by non
citizens. And I have no problem
with someone coming to America
to work, but we know that the
zone was flooded, and we know
the whole point.
John C Dvorak: Wait, hold on. I
said that doesn't make any sense
with good paying union jobs as
all Biden never said, Get go
dignity.
Adam Curry: Yeah, here. So Biden
came into the into the briefing
room. Not Joe Biden, by the way,
as far as I'm concerned, this
was daddy longlegs. The guy's
way too cognizant. He's, I mean,
he has some of the same stumbles
that have been practiced over
and over again. I just don't
think this is our president.
Anyway. He came in and say,
That's all great
Unknown: times. Joe Biden,
President with a rare visit to
the White House briefing room to
hail. Good news on the economy,
the nation is now created.
Adam Curry: He has not been in
the briefing room since his ever
see ever, maybe ever,
John C Dvorak: that's not rare,
ever. First time, ever times
Unknown: Joe Biden the President
with a rare visit to the White
House briefing room to hail.
Good news on the economy.
The nation has now created 16
million jobs. Have come to
office, 254,000
of them added in September. The
unemployment rate of 4.1% near a
50 year low. Wages rose 4% over
the past year, meaning paychecks
are growing faster than overall
inflation, and the Dow closed
today at a record high, gone
from
economy in crisis to literally
have the strongest economy in
the world. We've got more work
to do more
work, because many Americans
feel like they're struggling to
make ends meet with rising
prices of groceries, housing and
childcare.
Feels like it's harder to live.
Everybody's scratching and
scraping just to live still,
some say they're finally
starting to feel a difference.
I feel like it's it's getting
better, and one of the biggest
risks to the economy, the port
strike has been resolved. For
now, shippers and dock workers
agreed to an almost 62% pay
raise, bringing longshoremen
back on the job, at least until
January, when they've agreed to
bargain again over automation,
ending the port strike critical
for the economy, and especially
for small business like three
moms organics.
This is such a relief that
knowing that this is been worked
out for at least now, takes a
lot of pressure off, especially
because
Adam Curry: three moms organic
so they get all their crap from
China. Is that? Is that why it's
so so good for no idea
Unknown: what they're going to
the timing also key as the
southeast picks up the thesis
after Hurricane Helene and will
need significant rebuilding.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there's a thing.
There was a thing in that report
where they said that
unemployment is 4.1% of 50 year
low in recent memory, we heard
3.1 3.5 3.4 3.6 all within the
last year, and now it's up to
4.1 how has that become a 50
year low? Also
Adam Curry: to say that wages
have kept in in a in check with
inflation is a blatant lie. I
mean, oh, if you're talking
about money printing inflation,
okay, but if you're talking
about the actual inflation of
prices, no, 4% is nowhere near
what you need. No, you need 20%
John C Dvorak: closer to it,
because they like to downplay,
you know, they have to keep
reminding people that inflation
is cumulative. Yes. So, yeah, it
comes down to say it's 2.1% but
it was already nine and eight.
It's all adds up. It's like,
they never show you, and they
show a graph. It goes down to
whatever it is. Look at the
lines. Look at it pretty. Lines
down. If you do cumulative,
Adam Curry: we're feeling it. I
mean, everybody feels it. No,
I've noticed
John C Dvorak: my my when I go
to the vegetable store, fruit
market, it's I used to pay for
the same old, same old stuff. I
always buy the same stuff. And
it was always like $30 and now
it's always $50 it's always
everything's 20 bucks more,
yeah? For minimum, people
Adam Curry: of Fredericksburg
don't even go downtown anymore.
You want to, you want a glass of
wine? 27 Bucks what?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard
about some of these prices at
bars for it's liquor. It's just
like every time somebody tells
me one of these for a beer, like
16 bucks for a beer.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So we have
what we have a royalty in town
that probably here, Sir Mark and
Dame Astrid, the Grand Duke and
Grand Duchess of Japan, and all
the islands surrounding the
Japan Sea, disputed, disputed.
Yes, the disputed islands. And
so we're going out to dinner
tonight, and then tomorrow night
we're cooking for them here. So
I'm making them pick up the bill
for tonight. I can't afford it
anymore. I'm excited to see
them. Tina says I should take a
look at some of their
architecture. Yo, I haven't
looked at their portfolio
recently. Holy moly. I mean,
they did the Cartier store.
Well, that
John C Dvorak: would be the type
to do that. The stuff they do is
so beautiful. Design your back
porch. Sorry, have them design,
redesign your back porch. I
Adam Curry: can't afford them to
design anything for me. They're
going to come in. You just
wonder, what did two award?
Because they actually here
before they think they picked up
an award in Houston. And he has
an OBE for his architectural
work. He's like, almost an
actual Knight.
John C Dvorak: We're actual
knights.
Adam Curry: No, I mean British
night. You mean a British night?
Yeah, no, no, obviously they're
not just knights. They're Grand
Duke and Grand Duchess. They're
John C Dvorak: grand dukes. Much
bigger rank. Yes, much bigger
rank.
Adam Curry: But I'm just saying,
I think I'd come into our house,
and when you have these
architects who in the house,
they look around, go,
John C Dvorak: huh? Oh, yeah,
that's embarrassing. Person
exactly
Adam Curry: like, hmm, yeah, I
wouldn't have made that choice,
yeah, okay,
John C Dvorak: put the window
there like that.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in
the container automation, say
hello to my friend on the other
and the one and only, Mr. John C
tomorrow.
John C Dvorak: Good morning. You
Mr. Adam curry, the more ships
and sea blues, telegraphing, the
air, subsidy, water and all the
games and nights out there. In
the morning,
Adam Curry: we got 2255 at the
peak. 2255 at the peak. This is
why you say that's bad. It's low
200 it's low, it's low. We're
low 200 we're low 200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it should
be 24
Adam Curry: Well, that's all
right,
John C Dvorak: not Thursday.
Well, it's
Adam Curry: a tough times.
People don't have electricity.
Can't even listen to
John C Dvorak: this. Well,
that's true. We do. We have lost
the southeast.
Adam Curry: Hey, we had a lot of
producers in the in the
Asheville area. Interestingly,
we did no no this, I'm getting
notes from people who are
interchanging notes with other
people. And actually, for the
first time, finding out that
they both listen to no agenda,
which is kind of Yeah, which is
kind of
John C Dvorak: always funny,
yeah, you do What? What?
Adam Curry: In the morning, in
the morning. So those trolls are
in the troll room, and they are
all listening live@trollroom.io
or you can go to no agenda, dot
stream. Either one works
perfectly fine. This is a 24/7
operation, though we come in on
Thursdays and Sundays, and we
bring you our show live. We
start at one o'clock and we end
up whenever we're done, use
about three, three and a half
hours. And of course, you can
listen to it live right there on
the website, or you can get a
modern podcast app. And I use
podcast guru these days, pretty
good. It'll give you an alert
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the app, you see, so it's a
boom, oh, it's live. And you
click on that, and you hear the
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And if you miss the stream or
can't listen or your boss is
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The minute we publish, 90
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is actually through the podcast
and 2.0 technology, along with
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as transcripts, so English as a
second language, you can read
along as we speak. It'll even
end the transcripts now identify
your name correctly, and they
spell your name correctly. The
AI, the AI is improving. Okay,
good, yeah, it only took, what?
18 months we're there. Finally,
the large language model. Years
the large language model has
figured it out. We run the show
value for value, which means
26th of October. It'll be 17
years that we have never had a
commercial. We've never taken
any corporate money. It's all
been time talent and treasure
from our producers, which we're
very proud of. This someone sent
me an early, early twit, a
couple of clips. I didn't keep
them. I have them, but I didn't
bring them to the show. Um, when
Leo was still at the brick
house, I guess he's busy back at
the brick house now. Or, uh, no,
he's at home. He's in the
garage. And you were on the
show. We were talking about
different business models of
podcasting, and it was so early,
we weren't doing this show yet.
And no, I remember
John C Dvorak: during the
cottage era when we weren't
doing the show, but I think by
the time the brick house came
around, we will
Adam Curry: show it may have
been the cottage and maybe it
wasn't the brick house. And you
guys were talking about, well,
what are the possible models?
And well, and Leo is like, Oh,
well, you know, we'll get enough
money for advertisers. That'll
happen eventually. And there was
a lot of talk of donations. And
it was kind of like, well, you
know, we can easily get everyone
to donate $4 dollars. It never
works. And we started that way
too 17 years ago, like, hey, why
don't you? No, no, it doesn't
work. When you ask people just
to send you value for the value
received or the program. It's
amazing what happens. And I'm
it's a revolutionary thought,
and I'm surprised that more
people have not really picked up
on it. I mean this, there is,
you
John C Dvorak: have to, have to
be lectured on it. I lectured
people on this because they all
say the same thing that what you
just expressed, which as well.
You know, I got, I got 10,000
listeners. And if all of them
somehow, by the way, try 1% to
think in those terms, yes, a
little closer to reality. Uh, if
all of them gave me four bucks a
show, that would be $40,000 a
show. And I do a show a week
that's enough to get, I'll make
a lot of money, and it's like
you won't get that's never going
to happen,
Adam Curry: no. So we just only
have
John C Dvorak: 10. 1000, and you
leave it wide open so they can
donate what they want. Could be
four, could be 10, could be 100
could be 1000 there are people
that have enough disposable
income that they will gladly
give you $1,000
Adam Curry: yeah, and that is
because Val value is different
to them. That's what makes it so
beautiful. And also people can
just give us time and talent.
We, I don't think we have. We
ever built a website for this
show? I can't, I can't recall
ever building a website. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah,
dvorak.org/in
Adam Curry: a we don't, we don't
have the password anymore, so we
don't talk about that one. We
John C Dvorak: don't talk about
dvorak.org/and I still play
that. I
Adam Curry: still play the
jingle at the end, just to irk
you, because one day
John C Dvorak: I just put it
forwarding. Oh, please.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Will you
have that done by the next show?
It's so easy. You
John C Dvorak: just admit it. Is
this working? I can't hear
Adam Curry: what you lost the
password. Just admit it. Hello.
Put a blink tag in there. I'd be
very impressed.
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
think the blink tag works
anymore. It doesn't. They got
rid of pretty sure it doesn't.
They
Adam Curry: deprecated the blink
tag. I think they took it out.
That's no good. Yeah, I'd
John C Dvorak: rather have a
run. I like it where you have
the running cat going from one
side of the page to the other.
That's my favorite good times.
The cat running back and forth.
And then there's a mailbox that
spins and opens and closes. And
remember the little red flag
goes up
Adam Curry: and down? Don't you
remember the under construction
sign? Oh,
John C Dvorak: this is still
around the
Adam Curry: little yellow and
black construction wood. Our
website's coming. It's under
construction. We're building it.
Yes, we're building it anyway.
So no, we haven't done that. And
one of the many ways that people
contribute is through providing
us of new album art for each and
every single episode, which is,
looks great in the in the
rundown of podcasts. It looks
great for promoting the show. It
gives people a kick, and it's a
fun little competition. And we
have some very serious I cleaned
up the studio the other day, and
I found Mike Riley books. And
just, we have so many, like the
we have a pro comic guy who
just, like, high end,
John C Dvorak: oh, we have a
couple of high end comic guys,
couple of them,
Adam Curry: and as like this.
And I keep all that stuff, of
course, so they,
John C Dvorak: those guys don't
give us the art for the
Adam Curry: show. No, no, no,
no, they don't, but, but that's
the level that we have. Boy used
to, he used to, I, you know, I
put that in a box, and I'm like,
one day when I'm dead, my
daughter's gonna come in here,
like, I gotta clean out this
junk and throw it
John C Dvorak: out. Exactly what
this is to say. It might be
worth something, but some guys
scribble his name all over it.
What good is that?
Adam Curry: What are all these
coins? What are these coins of
all this different stupid coins?
These coins are no good. I got
stickers. I got all kinds. I can
just see her now, bring out one
of those containers boys get rid
of this junk anyway. NOAA Art
generator.com. Is the website we
can upload and participate in
this contest, which takes place
twice a week, and we want to
congratulate the artist who
brought us the artwork for
episode 1700 of course, it was a
big episode for us, and
Francisco Scaramanga nailed it.
John C Dvorak: Who hates us? By
the way, I don't understand that
he really hating art.
Adam Curry: By the way, 1700 was
titled turban tossing. And I
think we should keep an eye on
that, because that will be, that
will be the way the next it will
be the turbine tossing
revolution in Iran. And we'll
be, we have a boots on the
ground from a dude named Bahamut
coming up after we thank some
people here. So Francisco had an
automated containers, two robots
carrying a shipping container,
had 1700 on it. It was very
traditional Scaramanga color
palette. I would say he has this
kind of color palette with his
greenish background the letters
that have that little what is
the look I'm looking at here?
It's kind of washed out a
little. That's not the right
term. Are you looking at it?
John C Dvorak: Uh, I've got the
old look at it. What you're
talking about? What is this guy
talking about?
Unknown: What am I talking Yeah,
he
John C Dvorak: does have a is a
pasteli pastellian.
Adam Curry: That's what he is.
Yeah, he's
John C Dvorak: a pastellian. And
so he's got the blue sky is kind
of a pastel blue, pastel orange
containers, kind of a pastel
orange, yes, and that's good.
And then and the 17, yeah, it's,
it's got that, what would you
call that dirty, grungy, grungy,
dirty,
Adam Curry: grungy look, grungy,
John C Dvorak: dirty numbers
that have been. Wore, shop worn,
yes,
Adam Curry: and I can tell you
right now what I'm seeing coming
in for this episode. We're going
to be looking for an evergreen
once we said no Star Trek stuff.
Everyone gave up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it seems
like there's nothing here.
Adam Curry: So keep trying. The
artists, they do this while
they're listening live, which is
the beautiful thing about it.
There was she. Was there
anything else with a lot of
butts, a lot of 1700 a lot of
cheesecake? Was there anything
else that we like, I kind of
like, Nico sign signs, the
strike signs. But there was just
no doubt about it. Francisco
scaramangas piece was prettier.
Was Was it made scary manga
species nailed it nailed. No
agenda, Art generator.com, and
you can see many of these pieces
of art flying by in the
chapters. And if you if you're
in the car, if you're using
Android Auto or CarPlay, and you
plug it in, it'll change on your
dashboard. It's kind of fun.
It'll distract you while you're
driving. Thank you again.
Francisco Scaramanga. Now we
want to thank the people who
brought us the treasure, part of
the 3t of value for value, time,
talent, treasure, the executive
and Associate Executive
producers. We also still have
our Commodore promotion ongoing,
which is a very handsome
certificate. You become a no
agenda Commodore. It comes the
certificate as I still might
John C Dvorak: probably get
yours this week, okay, and then
before Thursday show, so make
sure you get a picture of you.
Yeah, showing it off, and
Adam Curry: it has a seal, and
it has a has a ribbon. It's one
of the best designs yet. I'm
very excited to see it, and very
excited to hang it on my wall.
So we'd like to thank our
executive and Associate
Executive producers, very
simple. And everybody can send
in through no agenda
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We mention all of them over $50
we always love the sustaining
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and we read your note. And that
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we read your note and we kick it
off with a rare certainly the
longer we do the show, show
number donation. This is for for
last, for the last show, 1700
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it came in late,
yeah. I mean, it came in by
mail, so he just missed it. So
we had to know what we can put a
show donation on this show. Oh,
yeah, we have to, yeah. No, it
has to be show donation. Yes, it
is. We, yeah, just put it on 17,
yeah, of
Adam Curry: course, of course.
And this is from baronettis,
bear of bend and Sir Ryan of
Central Oregon, $1,700 on a
check. Thank you very much. Dear
John Adam, thanks for 1700
episodes of The Greatest podcast
in the universe. This donation
will push sir Ryan over the
Baron finish line. You, you, you
will be upgraded today, if the
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good.
John C Dvorak: Violin, may
please
Adam Curry: sign us both up for
the no agenda Commodore
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Commodore ship is there. You can
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John C Dvorak: we need a mailing
address and the name you want on
the on the certificate. Thanks
for
Adam Curry: the hard work and
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Central Oregon. And thank you
both so much. It's highly
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John C Dvorak: Up next from
Cincinnati, Ohio, for $1,500
which is nothing to sneeze at.
No uh. Grant Schuler, greetings.
Thanks for what you guys do.
Here's a try Commodore donation.
That's interesting. I like to
try Commodore.
Adam Curry: It's like a it's
like a tricorder
John C Dvorak: for the special
1701 Star Trek show first. Let
me be known simply as Commodore
G I'd like to give two Commodore
ranks, one to my brother,
Commodore Clark, who hit me in
the mouth during the pandemic.
Well, good for him, and one to
his faithful canine companion in
Indy, uh, let her be known as
Commodore Indy the white
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Go to, uh, no agenda rings.com
and put this information in
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all those in the Cincinnati,
Ohio area, a shout out to my
brother's business, Central
Bank, doggy daycare.
Adam Curry: Bark. Bark bank. Try
that. Read again.
John C Dvorak: Said central bark
doggy daycare in the Madeira
Indian Hill area. It's a dog
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Adam Curry: I'm surprised most
of these luxury places also
advertised that they had that
they stream the dog channel
24/7, in the kennel. Does Mimi
have that? No, it's a big thing.
John C Dvorak: We don't have TVs
for the dogs.
Adam Curry: You'd be surprised.
It's a big thing. Now they're
streaming the dog channel. But
John C Dvorak: some dogs with,
you know, ever since people
should always kind of remember
this, that before the LCD
screen, dogs couldn't see TV.
That's right, that's a good
point, because it was flickering
at a 6030, cycles per second,
and it was just bits and pieces
that our eyes, human eyes, could
piece it together look like an
image, when, in fact, it wasn't
that. If you anyone ever took a
photo of a TV screen, you can
see what, what's really going
on, just a splash of something.
And dogs are stays. They
couldn't see the the images
weren't built into the dog eyes.
So they wouldn't watch TV. They
couldn't even cats. So when the
LCD screen came out, this is
useless information, no, when
the LCD screen came out,
riveting, dogs and cats will
watch TV.
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
good news. In some places they
eat the dogs. In other places
they let them watch TV. They're
eating the dogs. Duke of San
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submarine base, and the
protection of the bay is now
paramount to the defense of our
great nation.
Unknown: I've got information,
man, new shit has come to light.
He
Adam Curry: requested that
jingle, I shall patrol the bay
with Sir, lavish and
recalcitrant Steve to keep our
shores safe. When at sea now
ready for war. I shall be
Commodore, dude, named Ben,
named Ben, and we shall make it.
So I'm glad you're doing that
the certificate. Okay, yeah.
Well, change the font.
John C Dvorak: Change the font.
Onward with Ron Cooper, and he's
in Flanagan. No, no, sorry,
Baron. I'm sorry. Baron sir dude
named Ralph in Miami, Florida,
615 82 from Baron sir dude named
Ralph Miami, 500 for Commodore
donation. $85 for show. $1,730
for the PayPal fees. Thank you
very much.
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Wow.
PayPal. Ron Cooper, Flanagan,
Illinois, 533 dot 33 says, I
need a double D, douche. Why did
why do people think that need a
double you've been deduced,
showered lately. Love listening
to you. What are you drinking?
Same? Topo Chico Chico, love
listening to you every week. My
birthday is October 6. I'm
turning 54 and what better
present than becoming Commodore
Cooper followed both of you from
Adams, MTV days and John's
cranky geeks. See you in
Fredericksburg. Ah, October 18.
Go karma. He says, You got it
wrong. You've
Unknown: got karma.
John C Dvorak: You have to read
the next one because it's too
long.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. This is
from Sir 1% ITM fellows and
getmo nation. I am back with a
donation of 1% of my gross
business revenue to send sad
puppies scurrying away and claim
my promotion to Viscount the
honor of Commodore of Dixie
Washington. And if I'm gonna
read, you can't be blowing your
nose, or you gotta mute, it's
disgusting. And to ask
John C Dvorak: that disgusting
life, is it disgusting? Yeah,
Adam Curry: because you can just
hear it flying out of your nose,
John C Dvorak: not like I'm
doing it like a baseball guy
sporting on this on the ground.
Adam Curry: It's similar. It's
it's unbecoming, okay? And ask
that myself and President
Vladimir Putin be added to the
birthday list. Since we share
the same birthday, on Monday, I
will be hitting 49 I also want
to use this occasion to thank
those on the socials how I refer
to Mastodon for short, okay, who
helped me attempt to win Best
pest control service provider in
a local newspaper's recently
concluded Readers Choice poll.
Unfortunately, I do not have
news of a victory. However, I do
not know if that's because of my
business, Z pest control LLC did
not win. A strange thing has
happened. Nominated businesses
were invited to an awards dinner
and a minimum ticket cost of
$138 don't you lose? Who? Don't
you Yeah, don't you understand
that these are scams that.
That's the whole point of these
things, even the the Podcast
Awards. Now the whole, the whole
idea is you, you pay your money
and then and you pay to enter.
So I'm sorry that you, you got
snookered at the event, which
was live streamed and recorded.
Dozens of categories disappeared
from the presentation pest
control included.
John C Dvorak: Oh no,
Adam Curry: this is a travesty
of epic proportions. The list of
winners has not yet been
published, but I now suspect
that if no nominees from a
category bought tickets and
their category was eliminated
votes and all this poll may have
been nothing more than a scam by
the newspaper to score cash on
the names of other businesses.
Oh, well, life is a scam. Thank
you gentlemen for your tireless
work shining light and all the
BS out there. Jingle requests.
JCD, spooky, donate. George
Bush, Jr, just send your cash
and Biden whole load faithfully
supporting your exit strategy,
1% at a time, sir Dr, 1% Baron
turning Viscount of lieberland,
Dixie, Washington. I know a lot
of people want to send blankets,
sir water. Just send your cash.
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today.
You've got Donate. Donate.
Karma.
John C Dvorak: Eric Curtis in
Pleasant Ridge, Michigan, 500
bucks, no note, no nothing. So
he gets a double up karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Baronet fly not is
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what's your take on Mike Benz?
Do you have a take on Mike Benz?
John C Dvorak: I don't really
you do.
Adam Curry: I do. I think Mike
Benz is spot on. Unfortunately,
he usually takes 40 minutes to
make the point, and I think most
people have already kind of
drifted off and lost interest.
He is so detailed, and he almost
seems frustrated that people
don't understand what he's
saying. But I agree with almost
everything he says. But even
when you talk about the so
called blob, I just think he's
got to find a shorter way to
explain what he's saying. He
needs an editor. Onwards towards
Baron, regards, Baronet, fly,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Karma.
John C Dvorak: Tyler hooker in
Arcata, California, 500 and this
is switcheroo. Make a note this
donation of 500 and the
accompanying Commodore title of
practically crap. Proper crap,
practically perfect, I can't say
it practically perfectly is a
71st birthday gift for Donna
Jean Hooker from her son, Tyler
and her daughter on her daughter
in law. Then Danielle Hewitt,
please deduce her and add her to
the birthday list for October 7.
She's on the list. Also, please
know that no agenda kept all of
us sane and together throughout
the covid madness. Happy
birthday. Mom jingles biscuit on
my birthday. They always
Unknown: give me a biscuit on my
Adam Curry: you've been deduced.
By the way, I would hope we're
keeping you sane throughout
these insane times as well. You
know, there's a lot going on in
the world, and the media is
definitely affecting everyone's
amygdala one way or the other.
So bring it back to size. Media
John C Dvorak: is no good.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's that's
the easy way of saying it. Media
is no good. Am I? Am I not
mistaken, but I think it is
time, ladies and gentlemen, I
present
Unknown: the Grand Duke of the
Pacific Northwest, sir Dwayne
melon song,
Adam Curry: there he is. Sir
Dwayne melon song, Grand Duke of
the Pacific Northwest, $500 ITM,
gentlemen, economy, karma for us
all, that's jobs, jobs, jobs,
plus goats, please. And I don't
know if he wants a Commodore
ship. He hasn't mentioned it,
but I would hope so. So I and
John C Dvorak: he listens. He
knows to go to no agenda rings
calm and fill out the form
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs that's those are
jobs. Karma. You.
John C Dvorak: Sir Robertson of
the two sticks in DOS, Paulos,
California, two sticks. ITM sir
Robertson with two sticks,
requesting Commodore status.
Also a Trekkie NCC, 1701 dash D
enterprise, thank you for your
courage and go podcasting. I
dinged.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. Soap
soaps. Soap soaps, Peyton,
Colorado, 500 switcheroo,
Commodore donation for my better
half credit. Ep to Tabitha
soaps. I got an email from her
the other day. Tabitha soaps put
that in here. Okay, got your
switch. Rudone, uh, bringing her
to Dame status. She shall be
known as Dame Tabitha, keeper of
awesomeness, cowboy killers and
Calvados for the round table.
It's been ordered. We'll see her
there. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Brian telecki in
Lincoln Nebraska came in a
little late for the last show he
came in for show 1700 but it was
after the show had begun, yeah,
$500 within he says, Dear John
and Adam, I love this Commodore
promotional idea for show 1700
after witnessing the Vanderbilt
University Commodores defeat the
town that was that's just, oh,
this. This is a new note,
because this happened just
yesterday, defeat. This is a
ridiculous football situation
for people out there who follow.
I
Adam Curry: know, right. It was
crazy.
John C Dvorak: Okay, got felt
sports after witnessing the
Vanderbilt University Commodore
defeat of the top ranked, number
one Alabama, Crimson Tide.
Saturday night, I know I needed
to donate for those who who
don't know college football.
Adam, this is an extremely rare
victory. In fact, Vandy was oh
and 60 in previous attempts
against top five ranked teams.
Jingle request, Reverend Al
respect, the F 35 guy and goat
karma.
Unknown: ESPI, CT,
you've got
Adam Curry: karma. That guy's
great. Ah, now we move to 343,
75 so these are not Commodores,
but these are executive
producers. Sir Tiktok tunes is
in Roswell, Georgia. He says,
I'm Sir Tiktok tunes. Night of
the loud voices. Congratulations
to you both. First executive
producer donation, thanks to an
unexpected windfall, thanks for
the masterful media
deconstruction. Pot calling,
kettle, don't look over here. I
gotcha. Hello,
Unknown: kettle. This is the pot
calling
don't look over here. Nothing to
see here.
John C Dvorak: Look at that.
Nice. You know where the term
windfall comes from.
Adam Curry: I do not
Unknown: fruit orchards.
Adam Curry: Oh, so, so the
windfall would have more fruit
dropping on the ground.
John C Dvorak: Yeah? The big
wind comes in and dull bunch of
fruit drops. So you don't go
pick it and you load up and you
can sell the Yeah, the windfall
Adam Curry: fruit orchards in
where, in Georgia, in
California, everywhere, anywhere
there's a window. But, I mean,
what? But where did who first
coined the term windfall?
John C Dvorak: Well, now you're
asking me questions I can't
answer. Well, don't come to the
trying to stump me. Well, don't
come to the table you were to
come through. I don't have the
etymology. I don't have the
exact name of the orchard and
the poor guy who had the
windfall profit.
Adam Curry: And, well, well,
John C Dvorak: I'll take a look.
SDG, in Oakland, California, 340
and this is 170 This is an
interesting donation. It's 170
times two over four for shows,
1700 Oh, we got mathematicians
out there.
Adam Curry: Very impressive.
Umpers United, Ubers united.
That's y, O, O, P, E, R, S,
eopers United from Gurney,
Illinois, 333 dot, 30 thank you
for your exceptional show.
Signed. Uppers united. I wonder
who these jupers United guys?
John C Dvorak: I don't know, but
they seem to be in Illinois.
Take a look, sir. Kevin dills in
Huntersville, North Carolina,
330, 3.33. And he says, God
bless North Carolina and God
bless North agenda. Please pray
for us, Sir Kevin dills, Duke of
North Carolina, yes.
Adam Curry: Eupers United is a
place to find volunteer
opportunities. Interesting.
Hubers united, thank you.
John C Dvorak: Look it up.
Adam Curry: Then we go to Zach N
in Los Angeles, California, our
first Associate Executive
Producer with 283 36 shout out
Toba gentlemen, wishing you, Oh,
this one came in late. Wishing
you both a huge congrats on show
1700 and happy and healthy New
Year from one of no agendas.
Proud token Jews. Yeah.
Apologies for the late donation
as I was conspiring on a World
Takeover with my fellow Jews
last night at Rosh Hashanah
services.
John C Dvorak: Another fail. You
Adam Curry: failed again, Jews.
I'm also proud to announce my
knighthood has been achieved.
Please. Knight me, Sir Nanuk of
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Hashanah favorite and grassed
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chocolate babka at the round
table. What's a babka? Bob
chocolate, bobca. Bobca.
John C Dvorak: Isn't that a
Russian dessert of some sort?
Adam Curry: That's babushka. No,
that's a babka babushka. No,
that's the doll.
John C Dvorak: Babushka doll.
It's a great babushka means
grandmother, yes,
Adam Curry: okay. But Bob cook
anyway, this show is one of the
greatest blessings in my life,
and I thank you both and all the
producers for their continued
work. Karma for all thank you
from Zach N,
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Wyatt varums are
worms, worms. Varums gotta be
worms, worms, I think. And he's
in Phoenix, Phoenix Oregon. I
didn't know there was a Phoenix
Oregon. $210.95 Hello, Jess. My
name is, was called on on show
1700 by Commodore Brent Smith
from Legrand, Oregon. Pretty
sure I'm not that Wyatt, but I
will apply anyway. You got
called out. He
Adam Curry: got called out, and
he just he said, my name is
Wyatt, so I might as well jump
in. I love it,
John C Dvorak: but I will oblige
anyway. I need recovery karma
for my broken leg after an
accident in March. Broken leg,
yeah, that's bad. Thank you both
so much, and may you never find
an exit strategy. Wyatt verms,
thank
Adam Curry: you very much,
Wyatt, you've got
Unknown: karma,
Adam Curry: and I will do
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who invest in North Carolina.
And so we hope all is well.
There $200 no note, so he gets a
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Adam Curry: And according to
mutter in the troll room, babka
is typically made with a yeast
leave and dough that's rolled
out and spread with a filling,
such as chocolate, cinnamon,
fruit or cheese, then rolled up
and braided before baking. It's
popular in Israel. Jewish
Diaspora, we could have known
that it's Jew food,
John C Dvorak: Jew food that and
gefilte fish,
Adam Curry: oh, man, that I
can't understand. I mean, I can
eat raw herring, no problem.
Gefilte fish, no, that's just
nasty.
John C Dvorak: Test. Yes, you
get tests. You failed. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, I failed for
sure. Thank you very much to our
executive and Associate
Executive and Associate
Executive producers and our
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We'll also be thanking everybody
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Unknown: formula is this, we go
out, we get people in the mouth.
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of WTF clips that are political.
Okay, good. This is Harris in
North Carolina. One
Unknown: Okay. Vice President
Harris surveyed damage from
Hurricane Helene in North
Carolina. Emperor says muhallid
has more
in North Carolina. HARRIS
praised first responders and
volunteers on the ground for
doing God's work. The
work that is happening here and
that continues, really is the
best of what we can do to bring
federal, state and local
resources together. Federal
hurricane recovery efforts are
becoming politicized in this
campaign cycle. Wait
Adam Curry: a minute. She didn't
say they were doing God's work,
John C Dvorak: exactly then why
did,
Adam Curry: and why did this
woman say, and what is this
from? Is this NPR? What is NPR?
And why did she then say was
being politicized? Because
John C Dvorak: she's
politicizing it right there.
What
Adam Curry: a horrible woman.
I'm
John C Dvorak: glad you caught
that immediately.
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm like God's
work. Yeah, go Jesus. What?
John C Dvorak: Nothing about
God. She's an atheist. Come on,
she's
Adam Curry: a communist. Marxist
is the opposite. Be
John C Dvorak: a good communist.
You do. Here's part two. The
Unknown: Republican presidential
nominee has criticized the Biden
administration and made some
false allegations about the
government's response to the
disaster. Harris did not
publicly speak to the
misinformation during her trip,
but while she was in North
Carolina, the White House issued
a statement about, quote,
fighting hurricane Helene,
falsehoods with facts Asma
Khalid, NPR news,
John C Dvorak: what Wait, what
fall. What is he? What's she
talking about? The same woman
now she's saying that there was
false information without
telling us what it was. Well,
that's, oh, Trump's saying false
information.
Adam Curry: Well, what is this?
Just like a throwaway report.
They just do this 22 seconds
from time to time on NPR. Just
throw it in there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's just
so they can slam Trump. Oh, man,
Adam Curry: very strange.
John C Dvorak: If we want to
play weird clips, I still have,
Adam Curry: I don't really, I
don't. Oh, okay, good. Well,
John C Dvorak: let's play a
couple. Well, no, you had,
you're on board. Well, no,
Adam Curry: I want, I want to
talk about Iran and Israel and
all the important things in
life.
John C Dvorak: Iran. I've got an
Israel clip, but it's not going
to follow whatever you have to
do. Okay?
Adam Curry: Backgrounder, and if
you really want to know what the
intelligence community thinks,
you got to bring in Richard
Engel from NBC, Iran, Supreme
Unknown: Leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei led Friday prayers in
Tehran today for the first time
in more than four years. He said
Iran is ready to strike Israel
again, if necessary, to drive
home the point, the 85 year old
cleric clutched an assault rifle
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is at war with Iran's
network of allies. The main
battleground is Lebanon against
Hezbollah, which has been
attacking Northern Israel with
rockets for nearly a year. In
response, the group says to
Israel's war on Gaza, Beirut is
now rocked by Israel day and
night here, Israel targeted what
an official said was a meeting
of Hezbollah leaders in southern
Lebanon. Israel is trying to
carve out a buffer zone free of
Hezbollah Israeli strikes are
taking their toll here. The city
of Tyre, one of the biggest
cities here in southern Lebanon,
has effectively been evacuated.
There's very few civilians left
here. Hezbollah has taken a
beating in recent days, but the
group remains intact, and every
day down here, we have seen and
heard outgoing fire. Lebanese
officials say 1400 people have
been killed in Israel. Prime
Minister Netanyahu and his war
cabinet are still deciding how
and when to respond to Iran's
missile attack. That decision
will be felt across the Middle
East and beyond.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is the big one.
Now, how is Israel? Israel? How
are they going to respond?
They're going to blow up the
oil. They're going to blow up
the the nuclear. Are they going
to do nothing? Are they going to
just blow up some more pagers,
some more radios? What's going
on?
John C Dvorak: I think we should
have a betting pool.
Adam Curry: Well, let's, let's
see what Trump has to say.
Unknown: They asked him, What do
you think about Iran? Would you
hit Iran? And he goes, as long
as they don't hit the nuclear
stuff, that's the thing you want
to hit, right? I said, I think
he's got that one wrong. Is that
the what you're supposed to hit?
I mean, it's the most it's the
biggest risk we have, nuclear
weapons, the power of nuclear
weapons, the power of weaponry.
You know, I rebuilt the entire
military jets, everything I
built it, including nuclear. And
I hated to build the nuclear,
but I got to know firsthand the
power of that stuff. And I'll
tell you what, we have to be
totally prepared. We have to be
absolutely prepared. But when
they asked him that question,
the answer should have been, hit
the nuclear first and worry
about the rest later. And that's
why they should if they're going
to do it.
Adam Curry: I like how Trump
kind of interchanges nuclear
power with nuclear bombs and,
you know, just this whole back
and forth. And of course, nobody
wants to, nobody wants to hit
the oil, because then the oil
will skyrocket, and that's going
to need that aggravation that's
going to hurt Biden short term
and Trump long term, because no
matter what he does then, his 18
month promise won't happen if
they blow up some Iranian oil
rigs and refineries or whatever,
that's no good. So the question
is, CNN poses to former US
ambassador to Syria and Israel,
is is this political anyway?
Political is Netanyahu taking
advantage of some political
cycle going on in America, sir?
Unknown: What do you believe
our prime minister, Benjamin,
Netanyahu? Imperatives here and.
I think my sense what's his
thought trajectory? Central
question is, is the Israeli
Prime Minister taking advantage
of the fact that there is this
heated we are in the heated
final days of a US presidential
election? Is he pushing forward
more aggressively, in part
because of that?
Absolutely Casey. I think that
he feels he has a relatively
open field because of our
upcoming presidential elections,
it's very difficult for the
Biden administration, on the
cusp of a very tight
presidential race, to alienate
certain important constituencies
on our country, both the
American Jewish vote the Arab
American Arab vote in battle
ground states. So he knows the
American political scene very
well, like the back of his hand,
and I think he is taking
advantage of the inhibitions of
the Biden administration to be
more assertive in reining in
what he has been doing in really
asking for total military
victory in Gaza and now
attacking Beirut and southern
Lebanon. So that, obviously is a
consideration it is in his
personal interest to continue
the warfare into certain
measures.
Adam Curry: Well, that was
totally boring. I'm almost I'm
also
John C Dvorak: a minute in my
life. I'll
Adam Curry: never get back
longer. Was a minute and a half
John C Dvorak: so. But I did use
the term I unless you slipped it
in thought trajectory.
Adam Curry: I slipped. I
slipped. I clicked in thought
trajectory, please, because the
stupid Casey Hunt is like
thought trajectory is what you
just want to say. I'll read the
you know, our our theory, our
working theory, which can
change, but our working theory
is, this is all part of the
West. Clark seven. The idea is
to get Iran. We already have the
turban tossing happening. We
need regime change, and some of
the players may already be dead,
if not, they are on the hit
list, very similar to what
happened with Hezbollah and the
exploding the pagers was one
thing, I think, the the tactical
radios that really took out
some, some dudes who are
important. So speaking of dudes,
we have a boots on the ground
from dude named Muhammad. He's
in the region. And would you
explain why we put so much
weight on his reports?
John C Dvorak: Oh, he's the OG
dude named Muhammad. For one
thing, if it's the same guy, and
he I, he seems credible. I don't
know what you're wanting me to
say
Adam Curry: about how they how
people talk in the region. Oh
John C Dvorak: yes, they gossip
a lot. If you go, if you're in
the Middle East, and you go to a
cafe or even hang out with a rug
salesman in Turkey, all they do
is, is gossip about politics.
100% of the time they it's like,
it's on, it's like what we once
in a while, oh, don't talk
politics at the dinner table.
Oh, no, that's not the case in
the Middle East. No, that's all
you talk about.
Adam Curry: So we are thinking,
is that what you were looking
for? Thank you. I'll cut out the
part where I explain my
question. No one will ever know.
We
John C Dvorak: edit this show
down to nothing. The post that
goes into the show is
unbelievable. No one ever
Adam Curry: knows ITM gents,
here's my humble analysis of the
situation, having a good
understanding of the region US
and international affairs. It
seems that this is ramping up to
cleanse all Iranian proxies
before January 2025, this
explains the Trump Netanyahu
meetings, which are at Mar a
Lago, and will give both
something to brag about. Trump
ending a huge conflict from day
one and Netanyahu emerging like
a national hero. This will
revive a new Abraham accord with
friendly neighboring countries.
We've already heard Bibi talk
that way towards the Iranians.
Minimal threats for new
beachfront properties and
shining pipelines Hezbollah will
be completely eliminated. And I
believe there will be a new
leadership in Lebanon could be
supported by the Lebanese
military, which will guarantee
support by Gulf nations for
stable and friendly Lebanon,
Syria, on the other hand, will
most likely end with a military
coup, with a friendly military
leadership, just like Lebanon.
The same will be repeated in
Yemen. Iraq is already halfway
there with a couple of militias
to be pushed aside, and no
strong or charismatic leader for
the proxies in this part of the
world, people look for a
singular leader, and the proxies
lost a lot of them recently
during this Abraham accord. 2.0
stage, Iran will be isolated,
sidelined and ready to be
internally rebelized through
turban tossing and Tiktok
videos. Turban tossing and
Tiktok video. It's too long for
a title, but that's basically
it, and that will finally end
the West Clark seven. You know,
I was thinking about this. It's
a good note. It's a great note,
because it, you know, and you
kind of have, if you add Putin
and and Ukraine to the mix,
let's just, let's just take a
look at what happened since 1991
in American foreign policy. In
91 the Wall came down. The
Soviet Union ended. And I think
from that moment, the United
States, you know, the
government, was like, Yeah, we
run the world now. We don't need
anybody. But there's no one's
around. Putin. There's no guy to
do anything. Russia's weak. They
got nothing. So in 1992 Paul
Wolfowitz creates a defense
policy for Cheney, who was,
then, some people don't remember
this. He was the Secretary of
Defense for Bush one. Then we
get Clinton in 1994 a Democrat
now. So of course, everything's
going to change. Sure NATO would
expand to Ukraine. That actually
became public in 97 despite who
we had promised, Gorbachev, and
before that, Yeltsin was we're
never going to expand NATO.
Don't worry about it. Yeah, it
was a promise by Jim Baker, and
then who came in as Secretary of
State under Bill Clinton,
Madeleine Albright, another fine
specimen in 1998 Clinton already
had published the policy
document to replace Saddam
Hussein through regime change.
But don't worry, we'll get to
that later. Then we have the
first war in Europe after World
War Two, which people don't
really want to credit it with.
That was the 1999 bombing of
Serbia again. Madeleine Albright
Clinton, wasn't she out there
saying, hey, if we got to kill
some children, it's okay. I
recall her saying something like
that,
John C Dvorak: and I recall the
errant missile that found its
way into the Chinese Embassy and
blew it to smithereens. Yes,
Adam Curry: no. She said that
later, she said later here she
said,
Unknown: we have heard that half
a million children have died. I
mean, that's more children than
died when in Hiroshima. And, you
know, is the price worth it?
I think this is a very hard
choice, but the price, we think
the price is worth it. Uh huh.
So
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
Madeleine Albright.
John C Dvorak: Great clip.
Ready? Yeah, that's
Adam Curry: Madeleine Albright.
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one.
Adam Curry: No, at the time
during the Clinton, Bill
Clinton, our sax playing boxer
wearing Bill Clinton, Democrat
president who was number two in
the State Department Russian
policy. Come on, everybody. It's
an easy question to answer.
Victoria Newland, yes, she was
in there, 1999 so then we get
bush in after the disaster. She
was thin and kind of pretty. She
Well, in an odd kind of way.
Yeah, she was so then we have
Bush coming in 2001 he came in,
of course, in January, before
911 but don't worry, there's
only a couple months. This is
George W Bush. Newland then
becomes Deputy National Security
Advisor for who was the vice
president. Oh, there's Cheney
again. Oh, what a surprise, of
course. Then we read of the
Project for the New American
Century subtitle, rebuilding
America's defenses, we get 911
whatever happened? How that
happened? WTC, seven won't go
away. And this became the public
relations move to start all of
the wars. Of course, we know
West Clark seven, the big ones
by 2003 we needed to have Iraq,
Syria and Iran in 2004 This
isn't discussed very much. Seven
more countries join NATO,
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia,
Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia and
Slovenia. Remember, no
expansion. Russia. Na now, who
is ambassador to NATO in 2005
you? You'll never get who?
Victoria Newland. Oh, my God,
you're kidding. Then we have in
2008 well, that Bush was no
good. Let's bring in our hope
and change. Here's President
Obama, and who becomes Secretary
of State under Obama, Hillary
Clinton, and who was the
spokeshole for the Secretary of
State. Hillary Clinton, ah,
Victoria Nuland. She gets a lot
of work she does. Then we
switched out Hillary for
watermelon head Kerry and
Newland became Assistant
Secretary of State and the point
person on Ukraine. So then 2014
Victoria Newland coordinates the
coup that we have her on the
phone call f the EU, hey Clark,
and
John C Dvorak: then with our CIA
director, somehow, for some
reason, in Ukraine, hanging
around eating donuts and
Adam Curry: cookies and oh,
we'll bring in. Biden, he'll,
he'll, he'll, he'll deliver.
He'll midwife this thing. He'll,
he'll lube the baby. It's all
going to be great. Who else
enters the scene? Sullivan,
Blinken, so we got the whole
team in there. Now, Trump comes
in in 2016 and I, I mean, I
think he was, he was still kind
of perpetuating this policy by
reluctantly, I guess, but
eventually sending arms to
Ukraine, though not of the
nuclear variety. And he thought
he had a pretty bragging about
it. And he thought he had a
pretty good relationship with
with our dancer over there, our
actor, Zelensky. And right away,
you know, of course, it was a