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November 14th, 2024 • 3h 24m

1712: Data Plateau

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Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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Thursday, November 14, 2024, this is your award
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-winning Kid Von Nation media assassination episode 1712.
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This is no agenda.
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Putting Post-its on the good gear, and
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broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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snow country here in FEMA Region Number 6.
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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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Man from Northern Silicon Valley, well, I'm still
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working on it.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Working on your opening or just working on
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it?
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I had I had a convoluted I think
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was just a bit too long and I
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just couldn't pull it off.
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I'm sorry.
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Hey I'll tell you what it is.
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Oh okay here we go we get a
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post a post opening joke.
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Yeah I so I've been working on some
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on some new material.
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I've been working on a spice mix it's
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a commercial product a spice mix that brings
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out the flavors brings forward the flavors of
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meat and vegetables and I'm calling it the
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seasoning of reveal.
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Yeah you can ridicule me all you want
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but until you can show me where the
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15 million Democrat voters went I think we
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have a season of reveal.
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That is your season of reveal right there
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15 million people are dead.
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They disappeared.
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They just disappeared.
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Hey good news this is it the post
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get your post-its note get your post
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-it notes ready.
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Starting December 2nd we can bid on production
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equipment gym offices and vehicles from Infowars.
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Yeah I heard this.
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Kind of sad.
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Yeah well maybe Elon will just buy it
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all up and give it back to him.
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Well this this auction by the way does
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not include the intellectual property which has already
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been purchased.
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And we have breaking news that just came
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in four minutes ago from the Associated Press.
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Remember we told you how Alex Jones's Infowars
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site was going up for auction yesterday in
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order to pay the 1.5 billion dollars
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he owes Sandy Hook families for claiming that
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shooting was a hoax.
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I'm leading up to this because we now
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found out who bought Infowars.
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It is the satirical news outlet The Onion.
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They bought it at a bankruptcy auction.
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Again that's according to the relatives of Sandy
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Hook victims who spoke to the Associated Press.
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That's all we know at this point.
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We don't know how much The Onion bought
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Infowars for or if there were any other
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terms or anything else with the deal that
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we know of.
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Forgive me I'm thinking of the word any
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other catastrophes of that contract.
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The sale price again was not immediately disclosed.
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But again the satirical news outlet The Onion
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has bought Alex Jones Infowars site.
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Okay a couple things.
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I would have bought Infowars.com.
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Do they even exist anymore?
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Well they're trying to exist.
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They're trying to combat the Babylon Bee with
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a little bit of news.
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Well I have real news if you're gonna
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do breaking news and this is something we
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must get out of the way.
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And now back to real news.
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No it's not real news in that regard.
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This is the six week cycle.
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I have it.
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The FBI.
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This just came out.
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It's breaking.
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Breaking this hour.
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I'm sorry.
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Breaking this hour.
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Breaking this hour.
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FBI Houston has arrested a man accused of
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attempting to provide material support for the terror
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group ISIS.
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The agency is telling us.
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We learned this about five minutes ago but
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we are scooping up more information now.
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The agency is now telling us that the
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28 year old suspect admitted to planning a
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terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
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That's all that we know right now.
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We know that details are coming out.
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We'll continue to do our due diligence as
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journalists and ask great questions.
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Hey how do you do journalism?
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We will continue at this hour breaking this
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hour to ask great questions.
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Continue to do our due diligence as journalists
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and ask great questions.
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Oh that's it.
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I want to share with you now the
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FBI statement.
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Please.
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A quote.
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FBI Houston special agent in charge Douglas Williams
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announces the arrest of 28 year old Anas
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Saeed.
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He is accused of attempting to provide material
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support to ISIS and by his own admission
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planning a terrorist attack on U.S. soil
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all from his apartment in Far West Houston.
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Oh no.
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The suspect has admitted to researching how to
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conduct an attack on local military recruiting centers.
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Google search.
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Offering his home a safe sanctuary to ISIS
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operatives.
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Bragging he would commit a 9-11 style
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attack if he had the resources.
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A plane.
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Attempting to produce ISIS propaganda.
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More as we get it on the story.
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Be afraid.
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Be afraid everybody.
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Be very afraid because they're here.
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Wow.
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Dynamite.
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Wow.
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He researched and he told the FBI you
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know if I can if I can get
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a plane a 9-11 style attack.
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What nonsense is this?
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They're trying to get some extra bonus money
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before time runs out.
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Unbelievable.
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Before that you know you know Trump is
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doing a real like a typical business reorg
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thing with the FBI.
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He built a new building and then it's
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like okay here's the new building you guys
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in this old building you're not going over.
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It's like that's that's what you do in
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a it's a perfect business turnaround.
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I never thought about it in that regard
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but it's exactly right.
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You know this is a classic business turnaround
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a pivot.
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Yeah 10 guys you can go over and
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by the way we've wired it the way
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we want it wired now.
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So we can hear everything we need to
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hear.
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Here's your new building.
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So obvious.
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This is these guys are disgusting.
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Some schmuck.
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They probably wait until we see the the
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indictment.
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We'll get the the report like well you
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know we had we were talking to him
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for a couple of months told him to
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do some Google searches.
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He said if only I could get an
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airplane a 737 57 you know I could
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probably crash it into a building.
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Oh God.
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Let it end.
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Let it end.
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I just found it interesting because I didn't
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do the math on it because it just
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came out this morning but I figure six
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weeks ago there was whatever.
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Oh yeah yeah what was the last six
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weeks like?
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I probably have it on a second.
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Six week cycle.
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Was that hmm that was well yeah September
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30th.
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Is that six weeks?
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Holy crap it's exactly six weeks.
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It's always exactly six weeks that's the joke.
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Six weeks ago.
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He first caught the attention of the FBI
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because of jihadist oriented messages he posted on
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social media.
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Same guy.
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Same guy.
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It's unbelievable.
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We're on to you FBI.
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We're on to you.
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And nobody else cares.
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You know I was I was just there's
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there's a lot of different things to discuss.
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Of course the appointments.
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I think what is most interesting is the
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total befuddlement and in a way looking at
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the ratings that is a big story of
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course.
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The collapse of the mainstream media.
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At least the cable news let's put it
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that way.
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And if I just wrote some stuff down.
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Well you should write you should tell people
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you know I don't think everyone knows this
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you should give them some background on the
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collapse of these shows.
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Okay CNN will be axing top stars in
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layoffs that will see hundreds fired as ratings
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continue to tank.
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Headline.
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My favorite CNN host Chris Wallace leaving network
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after three years to explore possible full-time
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podcasting career.
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Right get out before you get fired.
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Comcast to put MSNBC and Oprah's oxygen networks
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up for sale in cable sell-off as
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they force them to reimagine reimagine their news
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operations.
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MSNBC ratings.
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Morning Joe down 39.6. That's the first
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hour.
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Second hour 36.9 percent.
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Andrea Mitchell.
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The Mitchell report 39.7 percent down.
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Ari Melber.
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Did anyone ever watch him in the first
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place?
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Down almost 50 percent.
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Joy Reid down 54.6. All in with
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Chris Hayes down 47.
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I mean it's it's a bloodbath.
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And with the cord cutting going on it's
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just it's just not happening.
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There's you know the the carriage fees are
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going away and these you know highly paid
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stars.
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Anderson Cooper makes 20 million reportedly.
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Aaron Burnett makes six million reportedly.
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And the Caitlin woman makes three million dollars
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a year.
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She's new.
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How did how did she get into that
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gig?
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She got I want her agent.
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That's really good.
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So I just wrote down a couple of
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things because why are they befuddled?
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Why are they befuddled?
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Well they're befuddled.
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What?
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How could this happen?
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Let's just look at a second what what
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the the establishment including the mainstream legacy MSM
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5M media.
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We had the lawfare, the SCOTUS insurrection, booking
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Trump, the huge fines, Department of Justice attacks,
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the home raid.
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We had celebrity endorsements everywhere.
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It's unbelievable.
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It's unbelievable how I mean Joy Reid still
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can't believe it.
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I think it's important to say that you
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know anyone who has experienced or been in
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the United States for any period of time
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and experienced this country's history and knows it
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cannot have believed that it would be easy
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to elect a woman president let alone a
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woman of color.
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Let's just be clear.
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Nothing that was true yesterday about how flawlessly
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this campaign was run is not true now.
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I mean this really was an historic, flawlessly
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run campaign.
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Queen Latifah never endorses anyone.
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She had every prominent celebrity voice.
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She had the Taylor Swifties.
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She had the Swifties.
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She had the Beehive.
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You could not have run a better campaign
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in that short period of time and I
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think that's still true.
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I mean it's unbelievable.
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She had the Swifties.
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She had the Beehive.
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She had I mean Queen Latifah never endorses
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anybody.
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Okay so we had the celebrity endorsements.
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Let's remember the algo and search manipulation.
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The autocomplete on Google search.
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All of that was manipulated.
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Multiple assassination attempts and then the media came
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out with he incited an insurrection.
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He's racist.
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He's a rapist.
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He's mentally ill.
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He favors only the rich.
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Misogynist.
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Don't forget that.
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Misogynist.
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Thank you.
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He'll take away your rights.
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He's gonna be a dictator.
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He's gonna rip up the Constitution.
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We'll use the military against the American people.
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Hates gays, trans, women and they's.
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Project 2025.
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Hitler.
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We can't believe that the guy won.
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What is wrong with the American people?
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Actually to be honest about it with that
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laundry list I'm surprised he won myself let
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alone swept.
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It's just unbelievable.
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It does tell you something.
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It tells you that the media has lost
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its mojo.
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Even if you listen to Charlemagne the God.
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The voice of black America.
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Charlemagne the God.
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Who is also just he's just befuddled by
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the demographics of it.
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What do you make of the the demographics
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here?
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I mean Trump got one out of every
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three voters of color.
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No.
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When you say color you mean like black,
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brown.
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Like Kamala people.
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Oh well I think that you know people
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have on different issues that they care about
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and I think that there's nobody out there
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that's a single issue voter.
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I think some of this is a backlash
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to race and gender and identity politics.
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Most people they just care about keeping food
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on a on a table and keeping a
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roof over their head and I think sometimes
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people forget about that.
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I think that they forget about you know
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the working class and I for whatever reason
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Donald Trump speaks to the grievances for whatever
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reason class in a real way and I
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keep telling folks people will forget what you
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did.
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They'll forget what you said but they'll never
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forget how you made them feel and when
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you go back to 2020 even though it
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was a pandemic and it was COVID.
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Yeah.
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People don't care.
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All they know is they got the stimulus
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checks with his name on it and that's
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what they remember.
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Oh that did it.
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People think about that when you have conversations
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with folks they'd be like I remember how
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2020 felt and they think that they're gonna
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feel that you know in this in this
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next this next term.
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People were burning the envelopes you remember that
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when the checks came in with Trump's signature
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on it.
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They didn't burn the checks mind you.
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Just the envelopes.
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I don't know where you're going with this
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but I do have some clips on demographics
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that I have.
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Sure sure.
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The NPR was freaked out about the same
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exact topic.
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They're befuddled.
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And they're befuddled and so they brought this
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they brought these clips are not this is
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I got five clips but they're not like
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they don't flow from clip to clip they're
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each pretty standalone and interesting the this is
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one of the one of those specials they
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do in the echo chamber.
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They brought in three Democrat strategists including Paul
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Beglia who seemed to be the odd man
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out because he was the old guy and
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the other two people were just younger one
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was black and one was just some gay
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guy and they were they were pushing their
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agendas.
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Just the gay guy.
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Rando.
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Rando gay guy couldn't figure it out.
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Why other gay guys voted for Trump.
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They are trying to discuss how this came
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about and none of them except and Paul
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Beglia kind of loses it at the end
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which will be the last clip but they
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you can hear within the discussion what the
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problem really is and the fact that they're
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going to die on a hill and it's
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gonna be you'll hear what it is quickly
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this is demographics befuddlement NPR be the first
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clip let me ask for as long as
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I've been covering politics 20 years or so
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Democrats have preached demographics is destiny believing that
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as the country gets less white it will
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move left this election showed that to be
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false so what replaces that as the new
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paradigm the vision of where the party goes
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from here so Adrian Paul what's the new
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paradigm yeah I mean I this idea that
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demographics is destiny I think was never real
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I think that the the challenge for us
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right now I think I agree with what
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lead about the sort of vacuum that has
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been left in communities in terms of that
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vacuum being filled with misinformation disinformation outright lies
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in propaganda you know we think about what
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is the new paradigm when you have real
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conversations with people and not just sort of
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gloss over and have knee-jerk reactions I
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think that we're sort of seeing right now
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in the post-mortem that's happening about you
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know have we gone too far did we
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go too far left I think the Democrats
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need to decide what they are fighting for
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and they need to fight for those things
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I want you to jump in Paul she
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really didn't say much there her comments the
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whole time is we have to have a
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conversation we have to have a conversation meeting
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we need a meeting so she's the meeting
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conversation by the way that when I was
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even when I was a Democrat the idea
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that demographics are is the future because once
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we get rid of these damn whitey's we're
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gonna be you know take it over the
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place will be great and so that so
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this guy who's hosting this is quite reasonable
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but nobody else is it's quite funny so
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we can this one is now the it's
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got the ad sign instead of a tube
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it's the Wow clip I think that Democrats
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need a both-and approach around delivering real
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economic results to working-class Americans and not
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shying away from real societal changes that are
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happening around us that we can't just pivot
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away from we need to humanize trans Americans
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we need to contextualize trans Americans we need
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to do the same thing that we did
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in the struggle for gay rights which is
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fight these battles and persuade not just an
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election season but in the years before election
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season and I think we lost to the
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oldest playbook in human history which is divide
17:40
and conquer and one place I would push
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back on Paul is that Democrats also need
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we're too conflict diverse we're trying to be
17:48
everyone everything to everyone we need to create
17:50
villains you know part of the thing is
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the Democrats have gotten too close to the
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boardrooms of uber and Facebook and Wall Street
17:57
Oh some of the groceries companies and we
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need to take on those villains otherwise the
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Republicans will create and manufacture villains every single
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time so the corporations the corporations that clothed
18:11
and fetus or villains yes and we have
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to support the trans now this is interesting
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to me right so whatever that is gay
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rights wait he went from you know went
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from get you we the way we did
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gay rights is now has to be moved
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to trans trans rights yes we have to
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the trans Maoist agenda is is I've determined
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that's the hill they're gonna die on Wow
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they they need to contextualize trans is what
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he said yeah they're trans they're going to
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the Democrat Party is going to die on
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the trans Maoist Hill I've heard it and
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I believe me I listen to a lot
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of NPR and PBS a lesser extent on
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PBS but they they're all in on the
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here's what we did wrong well is this
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that the other was a misogyny there wasn't
18:59
good communication there was a bunch of racism
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that said and if we just focus on
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trans it's absolutely incredible to me but let's
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go to the third clip which is the
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racism clip does the other complaint the last
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time Democrats were in the wilderness for 12
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years Ronald Reagan for eight years followed by
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George HW Bush Bill Clinton got back into
19:22
power by saying it's the economy stupid we're
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gonna attack to the center is the same
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answer gonna work for Democrats four years from
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now two years from now no no yes
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and Adrian no no I don't think that
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we're in a fundamentally different world than we
19:42
were then again I would say to stop
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the clip this is that one that woman
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again she says we're in a fundamental you
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have to remember her own words this is
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another problem that they have there's a the
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fundamentally different world is the trans world but
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that but she's but she's kind of carries
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it to racism now if we're in a
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fundamentally different world listen to her final conclusion
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when she raps okay I don't think that
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we're in a fundamentally different world than we
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were then again I would say to Walid's
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point like the country has changed right not
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just in terms of its complexion and we
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have to address the issues that are fundamentally
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dividing Americans and that is not just the
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economy you know we can't as a country
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we are incapable unable unwilling to address the
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sort of central issues that have created our
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inability to get to a more perfect Union
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and that is absolutely racism the Democratic Party
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absolutely cannot run away from that and I
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know that for myself and my community we've
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been dealing with this for a very long
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time oh wait a minute is she black
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does she represent her community the black community
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I guess mm-hmm but she did you
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hear that little phrase it there what she
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said what did she say play it again
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play the end here the Democratic Party absolutely
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cannot run away from that and I know
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that for myself and my community we've been
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dealing with this for a very long time
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we've been dealing with dealing this wait a
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minute she just said it's fundamentally changed don't
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bring their whole comment with its fundamentally changed
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but then it falls back to we were
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dealing this was very very long time so
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she's probably a consultant oh yeah well she'd
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know they're all consultant yeah and so they
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all come in with their own consulting bent
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and it's like I'm black I'm a consultant
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for racism for the Democrats I'm gay I'm
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a consultant for trans for that which by
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the way is it almost an oxymoron because
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they are not in the same community certainly
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not gay men and trans this is dumb
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these people are stupid well let's go to
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clip for things I think what I'm frustrated
21:57
with is there's been all this talk this
21:58
past week of about about how Democrats need
22:01
to abandon the woke part of their party
22:03
and very little talk about abandoning the billionaires
22:06
who are part of their party who are
22:07
harming our ability to speak in terms of
22:10
class warriors and not just cultural warriors and
22:13
the Elon Musk and they managed to do
22:16
it but they are running they are running
22:19
a campaign based on again the oldest playbook
22:23
which is Elon Musk is somehow a victim
22:25
of American democracy rather than a success story
22:28
of how the economy and democracy works for
22:30
people like him and so I feel so
22:32
ashamed that the Democrats were unprepared for the
22:35
onslaught of what was going to be attacks
22:38
on the lines of migration the border transgender
22:41
Americans when we when we knew this was
22:43
coming years ago and yet we didn't develop
22:45
a strategy to explain to the American people
22:47
what this was designed to do which was
22:49
to help elect Republicans and people like Elon
22:51
Musk and get them more power oh my
22:55
goodness now the interesting new term that was
22:59
introduced here besides electing Elon Musk for something
23:02
I don't know what he's talking about there
23:03
transgender Americans yeah I heard that too it's
23:09
like Mexican Americans or Jewish Americans as transgender
23:13
Americans as a category yes people are gonna
23:16
die on this hill well they're gonna die
23:20
that's for sure so so if so this
23:23
is the last clip so Baglia who's it
23:25
was the old Democrat used to work for
23:27
the Clinton administration he's fed up with listening
23:31
to this and he goes off on him
23:32
this is the last clip he goes off
23:35
on him but at the same time you
23:36
can hear him it's in there it's subtle
23:39
but he pulls back on certain things he
23:41
knows will alienate this new group and so
23:45
he kind of he couches he does couching
23:48
is a way except for except for he's
23:52
a wimp now bait Paul Baglia who's a
23:54
guy who's pretty much a clone of Lawrence
23:58
O'Donnell on MSNBC they're very similar personalities and
24:01
they just go after they hate Republicans to
24:03
an extreme but this situation this at the
24:07
near the end of this I don't know
24:08
a half hour of discussion and he just
24:12
gets irked and blasts these people but at
24:15
the same time he you can hear him
24:17
not really you know completely closing the door
24:21
on him I'm smiling because not only do
24:24
we not explain it we rub their noses
24:27
in it if they dare use the wrong
24:29
word I'm sorry there is a woke sensorious
24:33
preachy elitism in our movement and we got
24:37
a flush that you don't go to someone
24:40
who's busting his ass at seven bucks an
24:43
hour and tell him he's privileged just because
24:45
his skin is white I'm sorry you don't
24:47
do that if you if you not if
24:49
you want to get his vote okay and
24:50
I'm not naive I understand there's racism and
24:52
prejudice in this country I've got to build
24:55
bridges to those folks I want to reach
24:57
out to him and what the easier way
24:59
to do that is on these economic crises
25:02
that they're all facing irrespective of race gender
25:06
and religion Wow Wow but there's a lot
25:11
of the lot of these consultants are saying
25:14
this they're saying you've got to stop with
25:16
the woke stuff it doesn't work so he
25:19
had that right how many bet you can
25:22
hear him backing off on it though yeah
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oh yeah tell me that please tell me
25:27
that that I can get a longer version
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of losers it sounds pretty much like an
26:06
NPR ad whoever did that did a good
26:07
job Jeffrey Crocker I'm so but I find
26:10
it somewhat encouraging that I'm hearing Neil we
26:13
had I think we had a consultant on
26:15
the last show where she said the same
26:17
thing you got to stop calling brown people
26:19
Latin X you got to stop with this
26:21
nonsense because it's condescending and now you're right
26:25
oh no now we have transgender Americans another
26:28
category instead of just Americans yeah now it's
26:32
you know American yeah in fact it's a
26:34
good point they've added categories instead of backing
26:40
off on this politics yeah adding more added
26:44
a new category 60 minutes took a little
26:48
different tact and we're very serious about what's
26:51
going on here with Arizona called last night
26:55
Donald Trump swept all seven swing states for
26:58
in six of them flipped from Joe Biden's
27:01
column in 2020 so far the president-elect
27:04
has won just over 50% of the
27:07
popular vote and he made gains in key
27:10
demographics including the young Latino the young and
27:14
women Republicans took the Senate and are on
27:17
track to control the house Tuesday more than
27:20
80% of all the nation's counties move
27:24
toward the right the shift is decisive and
27:28
leaves Democrats arguing over how they misread the
27:31
people to understand what just happened we went
27:35
to Pennsylvania one of the places that made
27:38
all the difference Oh all the different well
27:42
it's very serious John this is the show
27:45
okay the shift is apparent and it's always
27:50
ultimately in America whether you're black American brown
27:55
American red American gay American trans American it's
28:00
always about the eggs for 25 years Chris
28:04
Borick has been conducting one of the leading
28:06
polls of Pennsylvania voters he's a professor of
28:09
political science at Muhlenberg College next to Northampton
28:13
County it was an Obama County then it
28:16
was a Trump County then it was a
28:18
Biden County and in 2024 it once again
28:21
is a Trump County how did Trump win
28:23
it's a great question you know first of
28:25
all I think he had the wins on
28:26
his side here from talking to voters they're
28:29
not in a great mood they're not in
28:31
a good place there's lots of good things
28:34
happening in Northampton County the economy's good but
28:37
they're feeling things in their lives that really
28:39
trouble them housing prices here grocery prices I
28:43
can't tell you how many times when I've
28:45
talked to people about elections this year they
28:47
referenced eggs and the price of eggs too
28:51
many eggs calm perfect yeah I have one
28:57
more clip here but the issue with trans
29:00
is much less of and the Republican Party
29:03
played this very well it's much less about
29:06
if if you know all right you know
29:08
so you've let some some person who is
29:11
licensed by the Association of Pediatrics and you
29:15
know who are stand to lose their license
29:18
if I don't go with the flow of
29:19
oh you're depressed you're a boy little girl
29:22
that's one thing and America's like well you
29:25
know okay but when you put boys into
29:28
girls sports that's the line that's the limit
29:31
it was it was so stupid and we
29:34
said so we kept saying this is dumb
29:36
that Americans will not stand for that hey
29:39
my girls shouldn't be competing against this dude
29:41
no matter what you say you know and
29:44
you know this and that we just this
29:46
this analyzes for a second because we you're
29:49
right we have been talking about this for
29:50
it since I think Leah Thomas or before
29:52
yes and it's like it's such an obvious
29:56
thing and we had there's the pictures that
29:59
I think number of years ago there are
30:01
these pictures that big black dude the guy's
30:03
a monster running track and field all muscled
30:06
up big guy running track and field with
30:09
women in the NCAA saying oh you know
30:11
he identifies as a girl so he should
30:14
be a girl yeah and then and then
30:16
if I think the worst part was the
30:18
hordes of mostly Democrats defending the practice and
30:24
then one other thing which it was just
30:27
abhorrent is the tranny story our come on
30:30
come on you know it was dumb this
30:34
just stupid but anyway according to CBS it's
30:38
about the eggs too many eggs calm egg
30:41
prices doubled and featured on the menu of
30:45
discontent at the Nazareth diner near Bethlehem no
30:49
one sees a sunny side to inflation high
30:52
interest rates and housing prices the average tab
30:56
here in 2020 was $24 now it's 38
31:00
and that's the election in an eggshell obviously
31:06
because the food cost and for a family
31:10
of like four people five people I have
31:12
them come in and say oh my god
31:14
I spent a hundred dollars with with the
31:15
tip for breakfast that's easy which it is
31:19
yeah 730 we open 730 to 10 Ross
31:23
Workheiser was a waitress 25 years ago now
31:26
she runs the place my mother used to
31:28
always say gotta vote Democrat you know they're
31:31
for the poor people you grew up in
31:33
a Democratic household yes but you just voted
31:36
for Donald Trump yes inflation is down by
31:39
more than half interest rates are falling mortgage
31:42
rates are falling wages are going up are
31:45
you not feeling I don't feel it no
31:49
I don't feel it I don't feel it
31:51
at all everybody I talked to it and
31:53
nobody's wages went up but we had four
31:55
years of this I mean four years gas
31:58
was super high yes it just went down
32:00
now but what the past four three and
32:02
a half years it was up so their
32:05
analysis is it's the price of eggs and
32:08
yeah that is very important and Trump spoke
32:11
to that constantly specifically it's like oh come
32:15
on there was there's one other issue at
32:18
play and I'm in a way a little
32:20
a little disappointed but you know I'm Mike
32:24
my good friends in text groups they're just
32:26
like who is this friends of mine like
32:35
guys who should know better and I call
32:38
them out on it and they still do
32:40
it and it's funny and what yeah and
32:43
one of the things is I can't believe
32:46
they spent them to give Oprah million dollars
32:49
you know like and four million dollars for
32:52
private jets you know when you're running the
32:55
greatest show on earth which the presidential election
32:58
is that's what you do please don't go
33:01
look at what Trump spent it was half
33:03
the half the amount of money but you
33:06
know that's what the you know Oprah put
33:08
to get we saw the show and she
33:10
put out a studio studio audience you know
33:13
what I don't even think it was it
33:15
in her own town I don't think it
33:16
was no idea where it was I know
33:18
that you build this in like $100,000
33:22
to call her daddy you know no it
33:25
was 500 whatever it's either way but you
33:29
know it's like what that's what you do
33:30
in a presidential campaign who cares but this
33:34
is a big problem here's a this is
33:36
a boy well I just to defend the
33:38
people that are on the other side of
33:40
this argument nobody you're right and I think
33:43
it's absolutely especially you have a billion dollars
33:45
to spend but how do you have a
33:47
billion dollars to spend and then go over
33:48
budget by 220 million I mean that's what
33:52
was shocking that's pretty interesting Tina told me
33:57
that Trump offered to pay that did I
33:59
see that somewhere yeah that keeps going around
34:01
I haven't heard it I mean I've heard
34:03
about him supposedly I think it I still
34:06
think it's tongue-in-cheek yeah well I
34:08
think anyway so the Cuomo kid had this
34:13
Democrat bundler on so she's someone who collects
34:17
a lot of money and yes this woman
34:18
yeah I did this by the way before
34:21
you play that this woman is the Asian
34:23
woman yes yes yes she China doll she's
34:26
a China doll she looks porcelain yeah she's
34:30
got one of those looks but she had
34:32
I'm dubious about this about why would you
34:36
come on and and well it's news play
34:39
like this news nation what do you expect
34:42
what am I thinking never mind just ignore
34:45
what I said and although Oprah says she
34:48
wasn't paid a cent by Harris the campaign
34:51
did pay her company a million dollars to
34:54
produce Oprah star-studded town hall wasn't that
34:58
pain and the Harris team reportedly spent six
35:01
figures to build that set I told you
35:03
about on that call her daddy podcast I
35:06
could have a built
35:15
a set for half a mill I told
35:17
you about on that call her daddy podcast
35:19
that call her daddy podcast that's a little
35:22
bit of envy in your voice Chris you
35:24
know which I got her hundreds of thousands
35:26
of views but I mean I don't know
35:27
that it was cost-effective and then you
35:30
got Eminem then you got Beyonce so let's
35:33
talk to somebody who lives oh what about
35:35
Eminem and you know there's a war they
35:38
pay Beyonce a million dollars there's no evidence
35:40
of that there and the FEC filings there's
35:43
a bunch of evidence of it you know
35:45
a million dollars for Beyonce no they don't
35:47
have the exact numbers for they have bundles
35:50
of money that went to different talent agencies
35:53
so you can't tell okay all right how
35:56
come no one wanted an endorsement from the
36:01
pod father in the podcast election what is
36:03
wrong with you people I'm always bringing this
36:06
topic up you don't have to do it
36:08
you can stop okay got Eminem then you
36:12
got Beyonce so let's talk to somebody who
36:15
lived it okay and is speaking out now
36:17
with her own concerns Lindy Lee joining us
36:20
now Lindy thank you very much for taking
36:22
the opportunity what do you think of these
36:24
allegations of what Oprah I mean either they
36:26
paid the production company or they didn't I've
36:28
never heard of people getting paid for endorsements
36:30
paying to perform maybe maybe but usually they
36:34
give it but do you believe it I
36:36
it's not a matter of believing it's literally
36:38
in the report and she can deny it
36:40
however much she wants to but it says
36:42
Harper Productions on the FEC report I really
36:45
don't know how you get around that it's
36:47
her company and she may not have gotten
36:49
paid personally as a person but it paid
36:51
her company so I think this is a
36:54
matter of semantics and she got paid and
36:57
it's just if my donors had known beforehand
37:00
that the money would be dispersed this way
37:02
I do not think they would have given
37:04
you know it's it's a sacred trust these
37:06
people a lot of my donors have worked
37:08
hard all their lives and again these are
37:10
everyday Americans around the country I didn't just
37:12
deal with big donors I also fundraise on
37:15
grassroots donors who gave $25 as I mentioned
37:18
I did something called geeks and nerds for
37:20
Harris people are giving like ten to fifteen
37:22
dollars these are people you know you know
37:25
hold on a second she did that geeks
37:27
and nerds with Wonder Woman I wonder how
37:29
much money she got paid that way I
37:33
didn't hear what you said oh she said
37:35
I did something called geeks and nerds for
37:37
Harris and that was the Wonder Woman hosts
37:40
and nerds that was the Wonder Woman hosted
37:42
webinar does zoom call right and so did
37:48
she do that for free that's a good
37:52
question I probably not $25 as I mentioned
37:55
I did something called geeks and nerds for
37:57
Harris people are giving like ten to fifteen
37:59
dollars these are people you know some people
38:02
are living paycheck to paycheck so it's a
38:05
sacred trust for them to give money to
38:07
a campaign it is our utmost responsibility to
38:11
use that money in a responsible manner and
38:14
to not treat it as OPM which is
38:16
other people's money if we can't handle campaign
38:20
money the right way how can taxpayers how
38:22
can Americans possibly trust us that we would
38:25
handle taxpayer money the right way all right
38:27
well gee now I just go back to
38:29
your point that you get a pot full
38:34
of money you you spend it the way
38:36
you think is wisely spent if you know
38:38
he had to buy endorsements which is kind
38:41
of low when you could probably get him
38:44
for free if you tried hard enough you
38:45
you know get better people yeah you know
38:47
spring spring scene is going what people got
38:50
paid sure he is I'm going to Canada
38:57
so there's something about there's something about her
39:00
whining about this which is if I give
39:04
25 bucks to the Harris campaign and she
39:06
gives that 25 bucks to Beyonce or she
39:10
gives that 25 bucks to Oprah Ogilvy to
39:14
be right do an ad yeah yeah what's
39:16
the difference what's the difference I mean the
39:18
Beyonce if somebody thinks the Beyonce's going on
39:23
and on about something is going to be
39:25
more valuable than the advertisement that yeah so
39:28
I just wonder this woman is just it
39:31
seems like in like a well the counter
39:35
agent or she's like a yeah I mean
39:37
she first of all she just doesn't look
39:40
trustworthy period second she's on Cuomo show so
39:44
okay but your point is exactly right it's
39:49
like that's how the thing is they all
39:51
believe still still for some reason even though
39:55
it didn't work with Hillary Clinton that celebrities
39:57
matter news flash at this hour breaking celebrities
40:02
don't matter in people's lives they haven't mattered
40:05
for quite a long time I think the
40:08
MTV Music Awards were on did we miss
40:10
that I mean this is this is the
40:12
level of you know non we not caring
40:15
nobody nobody cares anymore it's just it's it's
40:19
not that important the whole industry the gossip
40:23
industries is is not a maybe TMZ is
40:26
pro that's okay yeah you just made a
40:29
good excellent point look at the magazine whatever
40:31
happened to the gossip industry that used to
40:34
be so important we used to have had
40:35
a hopper we used to have the archer
40:38
army army archer whatever his name was and
40:40
all these different people that would do gossip
40:42
gossip gossip and all that's left now is
40:44
page six on the New York Times and
40:46
I'm or the New York Post and I'll
40:48
tell you the truth when I go I
40:49
look at page six every once in a
40:51
while which is the gossip of the country
40:53
and I don't recognize any names on there
40:56
it's like it's an embarrassment I think that's
40:58
my embarrassed maybe I'm not know the gossiping
41:01
and look at the magazines at checkout they're
41:03
very thin and it's always someone with cancer
41:06
it is it's always there oh he's got
41:09
cancer no it's not funny but that is
41:11
pretty much funny but it's like that's true
41:13
but the gossip industry sold out to entertainment
41:16
by just hyping people up for movie ticket
41:20
sales oh they're in a fight oh they're
41:23
doing it's like when when that movie came
41:26
out and it was what's her name she's
41:31
married to Ryan Gosling and she had a
41:35
movie come out recently and she was like
41:37
oh this is a great girls night out
41:39
movie and Gosling is like and by the
41:41
way it's a pretty good movie movies this
41:43
and it's it's really about it's about abuse
41:47
and rape it's it's a it's a that
41:49
sounds terrific yeah and so then the gossip
41:52
industry is like oh well you know there's
41:55
a spat going on between them and the
41:57
whole thing was so obviously set up just
42:00
to just to you know make generate ticket
42:03
sales generate ticket sales the other thing the
42:05
gossip industry sold out to is the fashion
42:07
industry what are you wearing who are you
42:09
wearing oh this is beautiful oh what go
42:12
to our 360 cam that's they sold out
42:15
they sold themselves out like a whores anyway
42:20
it's no it was any different before no
42:22
no it was always to move ticket sales
42:25
no but they'd move to the fashion industry
42:28
well the fashion thing yeah does seem yes
42:30
yeah well five I mean they've always oh
42:33
I'm wearing a Dior you know you're wearing
42:35
a Valentino Ford who are you wearing who
42:39
are you wearing well can't you see Tom
42:40
Ford on my back here hey Tom Ford
42:43
is hanging on to me so there's all
42:46
kinds of shifts going on and people are
42:49
rage quitting Twitter hi everyone I have loved
42:54
connecting with all of you on Twitter and
42:56
then on X for all of these years
42:57
but it's time for me to leave the
42:59
platform that it was a place for in
43:02
case you didn't know this is Don Lemon
43:04
for honest debate I saw this but he's
43:07
leaving the platform to do what and by
43:09
the way somebody pointed out his last tweet
43:12
he tweets three more times after this transparency
43:15
and free speech but I now feel it
43:18
does not serve that purpose in addition starting
43:21
this Friday November 15th X is implementing new
43:25
terms of service which among other things states
43:28
that quote all disputes be brought exclusively in
43:31
the US District Court for the Northern District
43:34
of Texas or state courts located in Tarrant
43:37
County Texas and what's so new about this
43:40
quote the full terms of service can be
43:42
found on my written statement or on the
43:44
X website now as the Washington Post recently
43:46
reported on X's decision to change the terms
43:49
this quote ensures that such lawsuits will be
43:52
heard in courthouses that are a hub for
43:55
conservatives which experts say could make it easier
43:58
for X to shield itself from litigation and
44:01
punish critics I think that speaks for itself
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44:18
is the big shift everybody's moving to blue
44:22
sky some X users jumping ship to a
44:25
new platform called blue sky you might have
44:27
heard of it in the past week or
44:28
so the open source social media platform says
44:31
they've seen an influx of over 1 million
44:34
users in the past week bringing their total
44:36
to 15 million users so still low but
44:38
a good start many of those fleeing are
44:41
fleeing X after the election they're unhappy that
44:44
owner Elon Musk used that platform to support
44:46
president-elect Trump now blue sky was originally
44:49
created by former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey in
44:52
2019 it's been around for a while but
44:54
it was recently open to everyone so it
44:56
had to be invite only for many years
44:58
now it's open to everyone the decentralized platform
45:01
lets you post texts photos and more you
45:04
can also better customize what you see and
45:07
it's easy to take your data and move
45:09
to another platform later my initial thought on
45:12
this is that yes people are going to
45:14
it is it as big as something like
45:16
threads or Facebook or Instagram or Twitter no
45:19
but it's growing there's a lot of sort
45:22
of momentum behind it and it looks just
45:24
like Twitter I was gonna say as someone
45:27
who's just kind of tiptoeing with it and
45:28
trying to figure out if I want to
45:30
make the switch I think one of the
45:32
things that people are concerned about on X
45:33
is all the bots and like if you
45:35
say anything you're like inundated comments and stuff
45:38
like that and so my question is does
45:40
that exist on blue sky as well so
45:42
there's a lot of controls to help you
45:44
see exactly what you want to see and
45:46
to cut out some of that stuff okay
45:48
so they just have a lot of controls
45:50
and they have these algorithm lists you can
45:51
like you know I'm still checking it out
45:53
but it seems like you can tweak it
45:55
a lot more I gotta say where did
45:57
you get that commercial that's KTLA 5 in
46:00
Los Angeles let me um let me just
46:02
say something about blue sky I knew about
46:05
blue sky before it was launched one of
46:08
our producers worked on it it was the
46:10
secret Jack Dorsey project one of our I
46:12
met him one of our producers in South
46:14
Carolina meet up and he told me all
46:15
about it and yeah it is open source
46:19
you can set you set up your own
46:20
server it's not like doing a mastodon but
46:23
I got an invite very early on I
46:25
don't have you ever been on blue sky
46:27
nah no it is tranny central I mean
46:32
oh really oh from day one oh that's
46:35
interesting because of Dorsey's kind of his background
46:40
you didn't have much to do with it
46:42
at that point but it was all just
46:45
all these woke people and just you know
46:48
trans rights flags everywhere and like okay interesting
46:52
yeah so and but this is not a
46:55
bad development I feel that's perfect you know
46:58
go where you want to go and be
47:01
I agree with people you want to be
47:02
with what you will find over there as
47:06
far as I know maybe that's changed but
47:08
there's no algorithmic presentation of content so it's
47:13
it does not have them then yes this
47:16
is the same thing was doomed it's the
47:18
same thing with Nostra Nostra great idea not
47:22
technically I'm just gonna say I don't think
47:25
it's all that great you know because you
47:29
have an identity that is cryptographically provable and
47:33
no one can steal your identity okay of
47:36
the 40 or the 40,000 people that
47:38
are on there it's not that great you
47:41
know they keep saying oh this is Nostra
47:44
is fantastic because you know it's censorship resistant
47:48
yeah no one wants to be on there
47:50
because again there's no algorithm and if there's
47:53
no algorithm it's there's no excitement you don't
47:55
get juiced up about stuff that is the
47:59
secret to these addictive and I say that
48:03
in air quotes addictive social media networks is
48:06
you have to have the algorithm otherwise people
48:09
will get bored of it and even on
48:11
those short little YouTube has a series of
48:16
these clips now that they do it's cool
48:19
I don't even like tick-tock like clips
48:21
shorts yeah and you get on one of
48:24
the one of the threads mm-hmm and
48:27
they're all very similar and like there'll be
48:29
like most different kinds of most of their
48:32
tick-tock videos just put on YouTube it's
48:34
true they stole but this is good I
48:39
see this is good people so people are
48:41
now getting sick of it you know we
48:43
already saw that you know people are leaving
48:46
subscriptions on YouTube and they're doing other things
48:50
that they're they're gonna find other things to
48:53
do in their life and as the news
48:56
cable news outlets diminish severely and they move
49:00
to I guess only pure opinion there'll be
49:03
little there's just no money gonna be left
49:05
for news it won't be that interesting to
49:07
keep these stuff like X I think it's
49:10
kept alive by news clips you know there's
49:13
still you'll still get a joy read that
49:15
is funny and you but that's gonna get
49:17
old too but at a certain point how
49:19
much more laughing can you do about the
49:22
libs melting down uh-huh if people will
49:26
get bored so it's just it's in not
49:30
the way we do it no no and
49:33
that's mainly because we don't have video that's
49:35
the best part you know ironically you might
49:40
be right I back to the topic I
49:43
can bring it up the ask Adam oh
49:46
hold on a second Oh the question go
49:51
all right now the thing is now the
49:53
thing about ask at this ask Adam is
49:55
this is a cheap trick to get into
49:57
a some more analysis okay because it's pretty
50:02
off the wall now this is the one
50:04
of course you plays ask Adam Q and
50:06
then I'll ask you the question okay here
50:08
we go when vice president Kamala Harris was
50:10
campaigning for the presidency she landed on a
50:13
signature line she landed on a signature line
50:17
okay okay what was it well there's a
50:21
couple do you did you just fall out
50:23
of a coconut tree yeah but it's probably
50:27
we're not going back we're moving forward it
50:31
is Wow this is funny cuz I when
50:34
I when I heard this I might what
50:36
came to my mind there was joy well
50:39
that's not a signature line that that's that's
50:41
just a word well we're both wrong or
50:44
unburdened by what has been we're both wrong
50:48
and you're wrong still continue to be wrong
50:50
so now you want to play answer plus
50:53
plus okay when vice president Kamala Harris was
50:55
campaigning for the presidency she landed on a
50:59
signature line this summer at the Democratic National
51:01
Convention it was everywhere in the pump-up
51:04
video set to Beyonce really across posters in
51:10
the audience and in speech when we fight
51:14
we win after speech because as we've all
51:18
these known in Texas when the new channels
51:21
and animals when we fight we win after
51:24
speech and as the next president of the
51:27
United States always says when we fight and
51:32
this election the Democrats fight was pretty good
51:35
they successfully ditched their unpopular presumptive nominee they
51:39
raised a billion dollars with record-breaking speed
51:42
they reached tens of millions of people with
51:44
their massive door knocking and phone banking operations
51:47
but the win of course never came and
51:51
since then we've seen another law of politics
51:53
take shape when you don't win you fight
51:57
amongst yourselves the finger-pointing began the morning
52:00
after the election Democratic representative Ritchie Torres from
52:03
New York said that quote Donald Trump has
52:06
no greater friends than the far left look
52:09
if the goal is to win elections on
52:11
Twitter then you should embrace movements like defund
52:13
the police but if the goal is to
52:15
win elections in the real world where it
52:17
matters then you have to appeal to working
52:20
-class people of color who historically have been
52:23
the base of the Democratic Party that's him
52:25
on MSNBC well this is very interesting since
52:29
we both were wrong about about what the
52:33
signature line was and it goes to show
52:37
that in popular dish there the Democrat Party
52:40
is divorced from understanding popular culture because if
52:44
I if I asked my 28 year old
52:47
and I said what do you think she'll
52:49
say coconut tree she might say we're not
52:52
going back she might even say freedom but
52:56
I don't freedom I do not think that
52:59
in popular culture anyone would say when we
53:02
fight we win sorry see y'all see
53:06
y'all yeah I was kind of surprised
53:08
I agree with all that and the irony
53:11
of course to what you just said which
53:13
is that they don't understand popular cultures they're
53:15
the ones wrapped up in Hollywood but then
53:17
again Hollywood doesn't seem to understand popular culture
53:21
either with the results the box-office results
53:24
they get with some of their good ideas
53:26
yeah great ideas so here's a part two
53:30
of this this this kind of cheat that
53:34
I did meanwhile former Speaker of the House
53:36
Nancy Pelosi who was instrumental in convincing President
53:39
Biden to step aside suggested in a New
53:42
York Times interview that he should have thrown
53:43
the nomination open earlier had the president gotten
53:46
out sooner there may have been other candidates
53:49
in the race Kamala I think still would
53:52
have won but she may have been stronger
53:54
having taken her case to the public sooner
53:58
Pramila Jayapal the Washington congresswoman who leads the
54:01
Progressive Caucus says Democrats didn't do enough to
54:04
distinguish themselves from Trump we don't offer a
54:07
different option he is a billionaire yes but
54:09
we also surrounded ourselves with billionaires and we
54:12
allowed corporate interests to dictate policy she's speaking
54:15
there to NPR member station KUOW in Seattle
54:18
we have to stand up for who we
54:20
are and I'm not sure we totally know
54:22
as a party who we are consider this
54:26
after a resounding defeat the Democratic Party has
54:30
to figure out where it goes next and
54:32
the struggle over its future is already underway
54:35
oh well that is interesting I have a
54:40
follow-up clip to that specifically about Pelosi
54:43
because she has also lost her standing and
54:46
when I say lost your standing I mean
54:49
the ladies from the view don't even like
54:51
you about Nancy Pelosi Oh child Oh child
54:56
she must have been absent the day in
54:59
kindergarten where they did the lesson if you've
55:01
got nothing good to say don't say anything
55:02
at all I I mean why Nancy why
55:05
I find this so unproductive so nasty so
55:09
unnecessary it's like she wants to make sure
55:12
that people know it wasn't her she has
55:14
no blame in this I said Biden should
55:17
have gotten out earlier I said there shouldn't
55:19
have been a primary don't blame me I
55:22
think it's really unseemly and you know frankly
55:25
it's done with yeah right these criticisms against
55:29
Biden look we're not we will never know
55:32
if the result would have been different had
55:34
Biden stepped off earlier what we do know
55:37
is that Biden is in there for the
55:38
next two and a half months and this
55:41
is what I'm gonna tell Joe Joe since
55:42
they're talking smack about you anyways you know
55:45
what baby pardon hunter yeah pardon hunter because
55:49
basically America just pardoned a criminal yes it
55:54
was convicted yes of felonies yes America yes
55:58
a man who pardoned Jared Kushner's father he's
56:03
probably gonna pardon some of the folks from
56:06
January 6 those insurrection those you know what
56:09
it's your son he probably wouldn't have been
56:11
prosecuted if his last name wasn't Biden baby
56:14
you got two and a half months I'm
56:15
good with you pardoning hunter which brings us
56:18
to much-needed analysis of the Trump Biden
56:21
meeting this is where you say I have
56:24
the clip and in fact I have a
56:27
clip or two President Biden met at the
56:30
White House today with President-elect Donald Trump
56:32
as NPR's Tamara Keith reports they both emphasized
56:35
a desire to have a smooth transition with
56:38
cameras on them the two presidents shook hands
56:40
Biden said his administration would do everything it
56:43
could to make sure Trump had what it
56:45
needed for a smooth transition well thank you
56:48
very much and politics is tough and it's
56:54
many cases not a very nice world but
56:57
it is a nice world today and I
56:59
appreciate it very much a transition that's so
57:02
smooth it'll be as smooth as it can
57:04
get Melania Trump didn't come to Washington for
57:07
the visit but first lady Jill Biden gave
57:09
the former president a handwritten letter to deliver
57:12
to his wife so first things first when
57:18
we see the picture of Trump and Biden
57:20
walking down the little corridor there to the
57:24
Oval Office Trump being six feet three Biden
57:29
being six feet zero Biden is taller than
57:34
Trump by at least an inch if not
57:37
an inch and a half now the the
57:40
answer from the answer is well he's wearing
57:44
orthopedic shoes okay so there's four four inches
57:48
no for each Trump not meet with the
57:51
real Joe Biden in my opinion that was
57:53
daddy long legs the guy who was all
57:56
jacked and can run and and was speaking
57:58
in the Rose Garden all all excited all
58:01
jacked up and I don't what I would
58:06
have hoped is that he got to speak
58:08
with the actual Joe Biden who then would
58:10
say hey here's the skeletons here she's out
58:12
to get you here's what you need to
58:14
look out for pardon hunter that would have
58:17
been fine but they they psyops this that
58:20
was not Joe Biden I'm going but we
58:22
don't know who he met with for the
58:24
two hours that were closed no we don't
58:27
we don't but I mean he he was
58:30
with that guy I mean they must have
58:32
done like a switcheroo in one door out
58:34
the other door oh hey here I am
58:36
I'm Joe it was it was so hot
58:40
you cannot you don't think that's possible yeah
58:42
but I mean these were these I cannot
58:46
stand the boy is orthopedic shoes it's not
58:48
four and a half inches four and a
58:51
half inches got longer legs that's the problem
58:54
yes yes and his gate is different so
58:59
I'm hoping that I mean the biting that
59:01
they saw that he didn't show enough of
59:02
this by the way I find that to
59:04
be of course not we can't have I
59:06
have to know I'm talking about biting at
59:07
the beach go the recent shots where he
59:11
almost fell on his ass a couple times
59:13
trying to walk in sand just trying to
59:14
walk yeah no mm-hmm they'd really minimize
59:20
that I'm surprised and and I'm sure it's
59:22
already did lectures over so why would you
59:24
care now anyway two hours I mean huh
59:27
to a CBC had a report I'll play
59:29
this it'll lead us into something else I
59:31
think with broad smiles and a handshake u
59:39
.s. president Joe Biden and president-elect Donald
59:42
Trump sat side-by-side in the Oval
59:44
Office and put on a rare display of
59:47
civility in their face-to-face Trump barely
59:57
acknowledged the bitterness of their past politics is
1:00:00
tough and it's many cases not a very
1:00:03
nice world but it is a nice world
1:00:06
today that's especially true for those in Trump's
1:00:09
immediate orbit like the Republicans in Congress who
1:00:12
greeted him with a hero's welcome it's nice
1:00:17
to win other wins for the Republicans the
1:00:21
House of Representatives and a new Senate majority
1:00:24
leader John Toon of South Dakota also included
1:00:27
in a stream of new appointments today Florida
1:00:29
Senator Marco Rubio as Secretary of State and
1:00:33
Florida Congressman Matt Gates who was the subject
1:00:36
of a US Justice Department investigation as Attorney
1:00:39
General but to what extent Trump's bold new
1:00:42
agenda was discussed White House Press Secretary Corinne
1:00:45
Jean-Pierre gave few details look they met
1:00:47
for more than two hours the length of
1:00:50
the meeting tells you that they had an
1:00:54
in-depth conversation on an array of issues
1:00:56
with that much-anticipated meeting wrapping without a
1:00:59
hitch Trump is now one step closer into
1:01:02
his steady march back to the White House
1:01:05
I love the little subtle Nazi smear he's
1:01:09
one step closer to his march into the
1:01:11
White House he's goose stepping his way in
1:01:14
by the way I want to congratulate everybody
1:01:16
on Mastodon thank you thanks to you and
1:01:20
your memes America was saved I am so
1:01:22
appreciative of that what would we have done
1:01:24
without your frog memes we would not have
1:01:27
won we would not have won Donald Trump
1:01:29
is forever grateful so I think we should
1:01:33
discuss some of these appointments you did a
1:01:35
pretty good rundown on on the newsletter which
1:01:40
ended in typical Dvorak trolling fashion by saying
1:01:44
and nothing's gonna change it's true it's like
1:01:49
well I think that was awkward talking about
1:01:51
Vivek and Max suck which one max max
1:01:58
Macintosh computers suck it was reminiscent of an
1:02:01
old-school column yeah it was good well
1:02:03
nothing's gonna well with date with the government
1:02:05
officials doge okay this is bull I need
1:02:10
to say something first of all I'm sick
1:02:12
of doge I'm sick of it it's and
1:02:15
I think it's borderline illegal if he holds
1:02:18
any dogecoin I think there's issues because he's
1:02:22
pumping he's pumping an asset by doing this
1:02:25
and everybody knows it also I disagree I
1:02:30
don't think everybody knows it enough people know
1:02:33
it I mean he did this on Saturday
1:02:35
Night Live and he's always pumping doge and
1:02:39
that and that should put that dog the
1:02:42
stupid dog okay doge all right ha ha
1:02:46
ha ha ha we get the joke and
1:02:48
now he's posting AI memes you know computer
1:02:52
-generated pictures of him and he looks all
1:02:55
badass like pride comes before a great fall
1:02:59
Elon be very careful with I do it
1:03:01
well you know you're gonna have to make
1:03:03
up your mind if his pride comes before
1:03:05
a fall or if he's if he's an
1:03:06
intelligence asset and if psyop a walking psyop
1:03:10
it's got to be one or the other
1:03:11
can't when when did I say he was
1:03:12
a walking side oh I thought you were
1:03:14
in the camp of him being a psyop
1:03:16
no I said he's no good I never
1:03:19
saw okay well that's different I never said
1:03:21
he was a walking psyop he said he's
1:03:23
no good but what I think he wants
1:03:26
is he wants X to be the everything
1:03:27
app all payments run through X it's it's
1:03:31
going to turn into a news app that
1:03:34
you can already see it it will be
1:03:36
where every and it's already he categorizes it
1:03:38
as a news app it'll be for your
1:03:40
news if that social media is over people
1:03:43
are not interested anymore maybe in four years
1:03:46
something will spark up again but they really
1:03:48
that people just want to what's going on
1:03:50
and they won't even care if it's real
1:03:51
or not that's funny that's great you know
1:03:54
what's happened I'll just check in on X
1:03:56
actually that's you I think you made a
1:03:58
point there again which is shocking oh thanks
1:04:02
is that people don't care if the information
1:04:04
is accurate if you know all these little
1:04:09
details about everything like in the bus let's
1:04:12
go back to the Bay of Pigs the
1:04:15
Castro situation if you can just alter all
1:04:18
the details and you know once I say
1:04:21
you know half the details are completely wrong
1:04:23
and half of them are right or just
1:04:24
ever you flip it it doesn't make any
1:04:26
difference it's like the Gulf of Tompkins it
1:04:29
was like okay we found I was a
1:04:30
bunch of bullcrap but what difference does it
1:04:32
make so and I'll reiterate my stance on
1:04:36
Elon he's a phony he is a front
1:04:38
man for all these organizations he's they've got
1:04:41
real NASA real Space Force people running SpaceX
1:04:46
there's real car people running Tesla you know
1:04:51
all of these other little things that fall
1:04:53
apart no one ever talks about you know
1:04:55
a boring company and the flamethrower and all
1:04:58
I have to mention something I know if
1:05:01
you caught this but Trump and I think
1:05:03
he you know he did it as though
1:05:04
he was joking but I'm not completely convinced
1:05:08
of it he made the comment because Elon
1:05:11
is in hanging out in Mar-a-Lago
1:05:13
he's always uncle now to the kids oh
1:05:16
he says he can't get rid of him
1:05:19
yes now there you go and you know
1:05:23
I follow the his his jet you know
1:05:27
there's a guy he got kicked off of
1:05:29
X of course but he still has a
1:05:31
Mastodon account and Elon's always on the plane
1:05:34
and he's always on X so and then
1:05:37
he's at Mar-a-Lago he's not running
1:05:38
anything so in that regard he's just a
1:05:41
phony he didn't invent Tesla didn't invent SpaceX
1:05:45
oh and oh boy the rocket came back
1:05:48
go to Mars go to the moon impress
1:05:50
me and then with this Department of Governmental
1:05:53
Efficiency it's gonna be Vivec I made that
1:05:58
claim in the news, I was gonna be
1:06:01
Vivec the two trillion I stand corrected no
1:06:03
no I'd want to be very clear about
1:06:04
the scale I want to be very clear
1:06:06
about the scale that we're thinking here we're
1:06:08
not thinking small we're playing big here because
1:06:10
we have a once-in-a-generation mandate
1:06:12
right now the American people have voted for
1:06:14
drastic reform of the government and our federal
1:06:17
government is broken really no secret that is
1:06:19
a fourth branch of government the administrative state
1:06:22
that makes most of the rules that creates
1:06:24
a federal bureaucracy that's hampering our economy so
1:06:27
what do we want to do we want
1:06:28
to go in and slash and burn that
1:06:29
bureaucracy to help Americans stimulate the economy and
1:06:33
to restore self-governance against Sean the people
1:06:35
we elect to run the government they're not
1:06:38
even the ones who run the government anymore
1:06:39
it's these unelected bureaucrats Republican politicians have talked
1:06:43
about fixing this for a long time not
1:06:45
with a lot of progress so I do
1:06:47
think it's gonna take a couple of outsiders
1:06:48
you know and I have built a great
1:06:50
friendship over the last year we're working together
1:06:52
intensely and we're not gonna stop till we
1:06:54
get the job done yeah so yeah no
1:06:57
I'm sure they can they can trim to
1:06:59
two trillion dollars the first time I heard
1:07:03
about the Republicans in particular and I only
1:07:06
I wasn't around but the first time I
1:07:09
heard about this was that Herbert Hoover when
1:07:11
he became president before the economic collapse of
1:07:14
the 30s yeah I think was called the
1:07:16
Hoover Commission I could be wrong about that
1:07:18
but he set up shop to do the
1:07:20
exact same thing because back then in the
1:07:23
late 20s the government was too big and
1:07:25
need to be trimmed and then and then
1:07:27
Bill Clinton came along and there's a speech
1:07:29
that's going around from 1996 where he comes
1:07:32
out and he says we've got it you
1:07:34
know government's too damn big we got to
1:07:35
start trimming it down and it went from
1:07:38
I think the figure was at the time
1:07:41
the budget was just around a trillion out
1:07:43
seven this has been going on forever it
1:07:46
never does anything except it's just it's just
1:07:50
bullcrap the this was the indeed the Hoover
1:07:54
Commission which was the Commission on organization of
1:07:58
the executive branch of the government and also
1:08:01
known as koa big I think Doge is
1:08:04
much better than koa big and Truman actually
1:08:09
used the reorganization act of 1949 to implement
1:08:12
the recommendations so they could only make recommendations
1:08:16
of the Hoover Commission real or I'm reading
1:08:18
from Wikipedia in case you wondered reorganization plans
1:08:22
issued under the act could be nullified by
1:08:24
a concurrent resolution enacted by both chambers of
1:08:26
commerce so it didn't have a lot of
1:08:29
a lot of girth to it probably but
1:08:32
yes I think you're right the idea of
1:08:34
doing this is a very tall order it'll
1:08:39
be great they'll make some changes I'm sure
1:08:41
let's go through some of these other by
1:08:43
the way it will just be recommendations they
1:08:45
have no power to do anything I'm in
1:08:48
agreement with you but let's I have I
1:08:52
have Doge clips if you want to just
1:08:53
get them out of the way sure when
1:08:56
I call them Doge knowing that it would
1:08:58
attract your attention I'm so attracted to your
1:09:01
clips this is NPR is trying to explain
1:09:05
it one Donald Trump announced the creation of
1:09:08
the Department of governmental efficiency or Doge he
1:09:13
named two of his most prominent allies from
1:09:15
the business world to lead Doge Elon Musk
1:09:18
the CEO of space but just a point
1:09:20
of order the pronunciation of Doge is about
1:09:27
the shit coin known as Doge otherwise it'd
1:09:30
be Doge or something so the fact that
1:09:33
it's Doge is completely connects it to that
1:09:37
so I just don't like it X and
1:09:40
Tesla and Vivek Ramaswamy an entrepreneur who ran
1:09:43
against Trump for the Republican nomination earlier this
1:09:46
year Doge is getting a lot of attention
1:09:50
but a lot about it is unclear here
1:09:53
to tell us what we do know is
1:09:54
NPR political correspondent Daniel Kurtzleben hey Daniel hey
1:09:58
Elsa let's do this what do we know
1:10:01
so far about Doge we know very little
1:10:04
but we can glean some information from the
1:10:07
statement Trump put out about it for example
1:10:09
it is not clear if Trump envisioned Doge
1:10:11
as an official governmental department and creating that
1:10:14
would require an act of Congress right but
1:10:17
what we do know is that Trump said
1:10:18
Musk and Ramaswamy would be providing guidance from
1:10:21
as he put it outside of government so
1:10:23
presumably question mark they are not intended to
1:10:27
be government officials huh but that raises more
1:10:30
questions because if this is an outside Commission
1:10:32
somehow how is it funded if it's taxpayer
1:10:35
how does that work and how big is
1:10:37
it if it's somehow maybe funded from outside
1:10:41
of government wouldn't there be conflicts of interest
1:10:43
but then there's one more important important point
1:10:46
here which is that whatever cuts Doge ends
1:10:48
up recommending Musk and Ramaswamy can't cut anything
1:10:51
Congress has the budget power exactly exactly yes
1:10:55
no one thinks about this I'm glad you
1:10:59
have these clips is it NPR even though
1:11:02
they are spot on the role right now
1:11:05
NPR be after the election has just calmed
1:11:08
down they're not doing propaganda they're trying to
1:11:10
explain things to the public which is what
1:11:12
they're supposed to do and I think they're
1:11:13
doing a decent job if you notice Elon
1:11:16
Musk I'm going to cut all funding to
1:11:19
NPR 4% that they get from government
1:11:24
we don't all right yes because they're woke
1:11:27
they're no good all right all right all
1:11:30
right those two calm down okay so do
1:11:32
we know anything about what Musk and Ramaswamy
1:11:35
priorities might be in short cutting but that's
1:11:39
about it Ramaswamy said during his primary campaign
1:11:42
for president he that he wanted to cut
1:11:44
the federal workforce by 75% yeah meanwhile
1:11:48
Musk said during Trump's October campaign rally at
1:11:51
Madison Square Garden he wants to cut government
1:11:53
spending by two trillion dollars now both of
1:11:56
those would be massive if they somehow happen
1:11:58
two trillion dollars is around one-third of
1:12:01
total government spending per year that would be
1:12:03
very hard to cut without slashing the biggest
1:12:07
government spending programs like Medicare and Social Security
1:12:10
which Trump has said he would not cut
1:12:13
so it's unclear how that would work likewise
1:12:15
cutting three quarters of the federal workforce is
1:12:17
a lot and keep in mind there are
1:12:20
federal workers all over the country including in
1:12:22
red states so it's not as if GOP
1:12:25
members of Congress would be gung-ho about
1:12:27
cutting a bunch of jobs but here's something
1:12:30
important we don't know what the top priority
1:12:32
of this Commission is the statement about it
1:12:35
talks a lot about cutting the federal workforce
1:12:37
but also talks about spending those two are
1:12:40
not equivalent the federal workforce is such a
1:12:43
small part of government spending as of 2022
1:12:46
that workforce received around 270 billion in compensation
1:12:50
government spending total is 6.5 trillion so
1:12:53
it's hard to put a dent in that
1:12:55
by cutting workers it's a gimmick this whole
1:12:59
Doge thing is a gimmick how does this
1:13:06
new department or non department I don't know
1:13:09
what to call this yet play into what
1:13:11
we know about Trump's other ambitions for his
1:13:14
second term I mean in brief it'll it
1:13:17
aligns with something he did the at the
1:13:19
end of his last term which is called
1:13:20
schedule F the basic idea is to recategorize
1:13:23
federal workers replace people in career positions with
1:13:25
political appointees Biden rescinded that but he could
1:13:29
do that again cutting a lot of workers
1:13:30
but the big question to me is Trump's
1:13:32
fiscal plans this could save some money but
1:13:35
he wants a bunch of tax cuts exactly
1:13:38
and so deficits could go up as they
1:13:40
did the last time he was president that
1:13:42
is in Pierce Daniel Kurtzleben thank you Daniel
1:13:44
so one of the people not really talked
1:13:47
about in this storm of appointees is RFK
1:13:50
jr.
1:13:51
we don't know exactly what what his position
1:13:53
will be but I think the effect of
1:13:55
him saying we're going to make America healthy
1:13:58
again is already having an effect as this
1:14:02
came out on good morning America this morning
1:14:04
Kraft Heinz says it's pulling lunchables from the
1:14:07
national school lunch program it comes after consumer
1:14:09
reports urged the government to drop the product
1:14:12
from school lunches entirely we found relatively high
1:14:15
doses of lead cadmium or both in all
1:14:18
of them and most also had phthalates which
1:14:21
is a chemical used to make plastic that
1:14:23
had been linked to a host of health
1:14:24
problems Kraft Heinz bet big on its push
1:14:27
to get lunchables into schools modifying the product
1:14:30
to comply with federal guidelines touting lunchables as
1:14:35
a way schools could cut costs but nutrition
1:14:37
advocates criticized offering processed branded foods in schools
1:14:41
and Kraft says the demand never materialized it's
1:14:44
the latest school lunch idea to face challenges
1:14:46
we also need to significantly change the quality
1:14:50
of food that kids are getting at school
1:14:52
as first lady Michelle Obama made improving nutrition
1:14:55
a priority resulting in new standards in 2010
1:14:58
studies showed the standards help lower childhood obesity
1:15:01
but many schools said the costs were too
1:15:03
high and one study found students were throwing
1:15:05
away 60% of vegetables and 40%
1:15:08
of fruits the Trump administration rolled back the
1:15:10
regulations in 2018 but now with Robert F
1:15:13
Kennedy expected to play a major role in
1:15:15
the nation's health care more changes could be
1:15:18
on the way I'll get processed food out
1:15:20
of school lunch immediately about a half the
1:15:24
school lunch program goes to process food we're
1:15:26
creating diabetes problem in our our kids by
1:15:31
giving them food that's poison Kraft Heinz says
1:15:34
lunchables meets all safety standards so craft is
1:15:39
smart like I would better cut this right
1:15:40
away we don't want any bad but let's
1:15:42
let's be good guys here oh there's lead
1:15:45
in there the lead in cadmium process crap
1:15:49
and they know it and I think this
1:15:51
is this is a good development let's talk
1:15:53
about some of the other like let's talk
1:15:56
about some of the other appointees do you
1:16:00
want to you have clips I'm sure I
1:16:02
have clips kind of naming them naming and
1:16:05
shaming yeah well you name and shame and
1:16:06
you do a clip and then I'll do
1:16:08
a clip okay well let's go where are
1:16:10
my clips where are Trump chooses let's start
1:16:12
with this one well let's do the long
1:16:16
form when they we have a bunch of
1:16:18
people all jump jumbled together as Trump chooses
1:16:20
long form in PR okay Trump is moving
1:16:24
at a rapid clip announcing personnel picks for
1:16:27
his new administration and some of them I
1:16:29
think what we could safely call shock nominee
1:16:31
Wow did you hear how she sounded there
1:16:35
no did you cue me in it again
1:16:39
hold on a second let me get the
1:16:42
get the clip here listen listen and tell
1:16:45
me it's not the same same lady I
1:16:47
think what we could safely call shock oh
1:16:50
there's no winning it doesn't be the same
1:16:55
person doing voiceover and it's her yes oh
1:17:00
there's no winning new administration and some of
1:17:02
them I think what we could safely call
1:17:04
shock nomination Wow there was Fox and Friends
1:17:07
host Pete Hegseth for defense secretary then there's
1:17:10
former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for director of national
1:17:13
intelligence and Florida congressman Matt Gaetz for Attorney
1:17:17
General we're gonna be talking about these pics
1:17:20
for weeks to come they all lack relevant
1:17:22
management experience but they have the most important
1:17:26
qualification of all which is loyalty to Trump
1:17:28
and a willingness to execute on his vision
1:17:31
and all this is in line with Trump's
1:17:33
lessons learned from the first time in office
1:17:35
when he surrounded himself with people who were
1:17:37
generally very well qualified for their jobs but
1:17:40
who ultimately stood in the way of the
1:17:42
norms busting things that Trump was trying to
1:17:44
do excellent okay that's good long form it
1:17:47
has no secrets let's just all hold hands
1:17:49
and by the way that's a great catch
1:17:51
it's her it's her possibly a certain woman
1:17:54
doing voices for the that was American dad
1:17:57
yes maybe she is little side gig okay
1:18:02
let's start with Gaetz let's just go with
1:18:05
Gaetz because he is by far the most
1:18:08
controversial we have Democrats and Republicans who were
1:18:13
befuddled by this choice do you have any
1:18:16
Gaetz clips I have them just the announcement
1:18:19
of it but I do and I could
1:18:21
have gotten some clips from it was one
1:18:23
of the I think it was Nicole Wallace
1:18:26
don't worry I have some clips don't worry
1:18:28
I guess okay where's your Gaetz clip well
1:18:31
the Gaetz clip is in here it's a
1:18:33
Trump chooses Rubio and Gabbard here Trump chooses
1:18:36
Gaetz got it NPR president-elect Trump floored
1:18:41
some Senate Republicans today for Attorney General some
1:18:46
pairs Deirdre Walsh reports Trump opted for a
1:18:48
loyalist with a national reputation as a disruptor
1:18:51
to help him overhaul the Justice Department Trump's
1:18:53
pick for Attorney General Florida Republican Matt Gaetz
1:18:56
set off shockwaves among Senate Republicans he's a
1:19:00
top Trump loyalist and a conservative firebrand he
1:19:03
was the member who led to the removal
1:19:05
of former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over a
1:19:07
year ago and part of their public feud
1:19:10
was over a House ethics investigation about allegations
1:19:13
about Gaetz possibly involved in sex trafficking the
1:19:17
Justice Department investigated that and did not bring
1:19:19
any charges but there's still a House ethics
1:19:22
investigation so I'll play my first clip and
1:19:24
then we'll discuss this is Caitlin the three
1:19:27
million dollar woman over there at CNN with
1:19:30
George Conway and his view on Gaetz as
1:19:34
pick my legal sources are here a pair
1:19:36
of former federal prosecutors and Ellie Honig and
1:19:39
Elliot Williams and also the conservative attorney who
1:19:42
was once actually if you can remember that
1:19:44
far back considered by Trump to be his
1:19:47
solicitor general the number three at the Justice
1:19:49
Department now outspoken Trump critic George Conway that
1:19:52
was a very long introduction George yes your
1:19:57
thoughts I you know everybody's like shocked surprised
1:20:01
there's nothing surprising about this this is Matt
1:20:06
Gaetz in a lot of ways is the
1:20:07
perfect attorney general for Donald Trump okay I
1:20:11
mean we have a criminal convicted criminal who's
1:20:15
a president who has been adjudicated to engage
1:20:19
in sexual abuse so why not select a
1:20:23
guy who is loyal to him and who
1:20:26
wants to seek revenge in the same way
1:20:28
Donald Trump does and who is you know
1:20:31
it was it was accused of sex sex
1:20:35
trafficking it's he's the perfect choice so I
1:20:38
don't know why everybody's surprised all right your
1:20:42
thoughts I have another clip but your thoughts
1:20:43
on Matt Gaetz as attorney general well when
1:20:47
I was watching Nicole Wallace have she had
1:20:49
Swalwell on right and Swalwell well it's interesting
1:20:53
because I've seen Swalwell clip not clips now
1:20:55
a couple of for a couple days he's
1:20:57
showing up he's got a new agent or
1:20:58
something he's showing up in a lot of
1:20:59
clips and he's who sounds of extremely reasonable
1:21:03
and he said that everyone's all bent out
1:21:07
of shape about Gaetz and of course we
1:21:09
remember that he got Kevin McCarthy kicked out
1:21:13
of the house and Kevin McCarthy goes around
1:21:16
now on a different Fox shows calling it
1:21:18
calling Gaetz a pedophile yeah now calls him
1:21:23
a pedophile bit of an issue and yes
1:21:26
I would say and so Swalwell says this
1:21:31
is bullcrap the whole thing is just a
1:21:33
setup so he can't he won't get confirmed
1:21:35
by the Senate and he goes on it
1:21:38
says you guys are all freaked out about
1:21:39
nothing because it's not gonna happen which you
1:21:42
know may might be true but I didn't
1:21:44
think much of it one way or the
1:21:45
other until they had the Senate whip the
1:21:48
new Senate whip whip whip whip guy on
1:21:53
this morning's John Roberts show and he says
1:21:56
that when they brought up Gaetz he was
1:21:58
like in his Republican he's hemming and hawing
1:22:01
in a very awkward way because he was
1:22:04
asked point-blank are you as a senator
1:22:08
just gonna just approve all these things just
1:22:11
so you know just across the board or
1:22:14
you're gonna give a careful thought or you
1:22:15
some and the guy was hemming and hawing
1:22:17
in a very awkward way which makes me
1:22:19
think of that Swalwell may be corrected Gaetz
1:22:22
just won't get approved I have that's possible
1:22:25
and it doesn't really matter I have a
1:22:28
thought based upon another clip with the three
1:22:31
million dollar woman listen to this pick for
1:22:34
Attorney General is confirmed by the Senate of
1:22:37
course a big if tonight they will have
1:22:39
a long to-do list including ending weaponized
1:22:42
government Trump's words protecting the border dismantling criminal
1:22:46
organizations rooting out corruption at the Justice Department
1:22:49
and fighting crime and I have new reporting
1:22:52
tonight on who Trump may install in the
1:22:54
second highest position there at the DOJ I'm
1:22:57
told Trump is seriously considering naming his lead
1:23:00
attorney that you may recognize from his criminal
1:23:02
cases who represents him there Todd Blanche to
1:23:05
serve as the next Deputy Attorney General though
1:23:08
I should note tonight nothing has been finalized
1:23:10
this is now I'm seeing a pattern I'm
1:23:13
seeing a pattern with what President Trump is
1:23:15
doing he has Elon as the as the
1:23:19
the guy out front and Vivek is gonna
1:23:21
be tasked with actually rolling up his sleeves
1:23:23
and going in Matt Gaetz is the lightning
1:23:26
rod he's perfect because all Trump has to
1:23:30
say is hey Matt what's that in your
1:23:32
mouth I mean he's that guy is so
1:23:34
compromised the real guy is Todd Blanche this
1:23:39
guy is he's the one your Deputy Attorney
1:23:42
General you've got power you've got a lot
1:23:45
of power this guy was in this he
1:23:48
was a United States Attorney for the Southern
1:23:50
District of New York he's a real New
1:23:54
Yorker guy he's been you know he's done
1:23:57
racketeering public corruption this is a serious lawyer
1:24:03
he's born in 74 so he's a you
1:24:06
know 50 this is the guy this is
1:24:09
the guy who's gonna change a lot of
1:24:11
things and Matt Gaetz is just a distraction
1:24:14
it doesn't matter who is put in there
1:24:16
as long as there's compromise I'm telling you
1:24:18
Matt Gaetz is easy Matt do this no
1:24:20
I don't feel like it what's that in
1:24:21
your mouth oh I'm sorry yeah I got
1:24:23
the yeah we had those pictures I think
1:24:25
Todd Blanche is the guy to watch he's
1:24:28
the guy that's gonna and who is the
1:24:30
Deputy Attorney General under Merrick Garland do you
1:24:33
know no no I don't either no one
1:24:35
ever talks about him you think that guy
1:24:38
doesn't have some real clout can't do something
1:24:41
I'm pretty sure he does well during the
1:24:43
peer previous era when you had some of
1:24:46
those creeps struck struck whatever his name is
1:24:49
that was FBI it was FBI oh that
1:24:51
was FBI but it was still the second
1:24:53
it was an underling it was a second
1:24:54
level yeah that was doing all the damage
1:24:56
they can they have a lot of power
1:24:58
they can do a lot of things so
1:24:59
I think I like that I like the
1:25:01
theory Matt you take this you set up
1:25:03
a straw man and you have some some
1:25:06
real nasty assholes underneath I don't think that's
1:25:09
true with the with the border guy guy
1:25:12
well let's do the border guy do you
1:25:14
have a clip of the border guy I
1:25:17
do not okay I have a clip of
1:25:20
the I've got two clips of the border
1:25:21
guy this is CBC so it's international news
1:25:24
and well I'll play that one second hold
1:25:26
on where is where's my guy here oh
1:25:33
here we go this guy Democrats are already
1:25:37
preparing to push back on former president Trump's
1:25:40
planned migrant deportation program Massachusetts governor Maura Healey
1:25:44
is already declaring that her state will not
1:25:47
comply if the Trump administration requested would the
1:25:51
Massachusetts State Police assist in mass deportations no
1:25:56
absolutely not every tool in the toolbox has
1:25:58
got to be used to protect our citizens
1:26:00
to protect our residents and protect our states
1:26:03
and certainly to hold the line on democracy
1:26:06
and the rule of law but the president
1:26:08
elects newly named borders are Tom Homan says
1:26:10
he won't be stopped by sanctuary cities or
1:26:13
states what I've seen I've seen these some
1:26:16
of these Democratic governors say they're gonna stand
1:26:18
in the way they're going they're going to
1:26:20
make it hard for us well I know
1:26:21
a suggestion if you're not gonna help us
1:26:23
get the hell out of the way we're
1:26:25
gonna do it so if we can't get
1:26:26
assistance from New York City and I may
1:26:30
have to double the number of raises we
1:26:32
send in New York City because we're going
1:26:34
to do the job we're going to the
1:26:35
job without you or with you and Homan
1:26:38
defended the president elects deportation plan saying that
1:26:41
it puts our national security first president Trump
1:26:44
has made it clear we will prioritize public
1:26:47
safety threats and national security threats first during
1:26:50
the country legally you shouldn't feel comfortable absolutely
1:26:53
not I won't feel comfortable if I'm in
1:26:54
the country illegally you shouldn't be comfortable either
1:26:57
because when you enter this country legally you
1:26:59
have committed a crime you are a criminal
1:27:01
and you're not off the table and I
1:27:03
think this is great I mean I don't
1:27:05
even care if the guy does it I
1:27:06
just want to hear him say he does
1:27:08
it every day all day long I'm gonna
1:27:11
do it get out of the way he's
1:27:13
perfect and oh it's it's essential casting yes
1:27:22
congratulations the baby is now a US citizen
1:27:24
it's frankly ridiculous that was president-elect Trump
1:27:29
five years ago expressing his desire to end
1:27:32
birthright citizenship a 14th Amendment right guaranteeing anyone
1:27:36
born on US soil US citizenship and as
1:27:39
we inch closer to the beginning of his
1:27:41
next administration it appears Trump may move forward
1:27:44
with ending that right and I talked to
1:27:46
immigration attorney Ernesto Walsh who says he could
1:27:50
be successful in doing so could you see
1:27:52
there being any legal challenges to this oh
1:27:54
absolutely without question it'll be challenged and now
1:27:57
at the end of the day whether it'll
1:27:59
be something that they'll be allowed to remove
1:28:00
or not it's more likely that they will
1:28:03
be able to pull this benefit Walsh says
1:28:05
it likely wouldn't be applied retroactively meaning no
1:28:08
one would lose citizenship if they were born
1:28:11
here and Walsh says all of Trump's immigration
1:28:13
proposals will take time to implement it's important
1:28:17
to understand that the courts are severely backlogged
1:28:20
and so with even the most aggressive spirit
1:28:23
that President Trump may have it still logistically
1:28:27
takes time in order to be able to
1:28:29
do things and I think this is one
1:28:31
of the reasons why we see the private
1:28:33
prison stock soaring on Wall Street yeah that
1:28:36
was a good pick we should have had
1:28:38
that one one last one on the on
1:28:40
our new bulldog before you go on I
1:28:44
do have to make one comment which is
1:28:45
the this 14th Amendment thing the way they
1:28:48
they presented as though it's oh my god
1:28:50
we had this 14th Amendment is this a
1:28:51
violation of rights do you have to remember
1:28:53
the 14th Amendment which was acted in 1868
1:28:58
was done to protect the birthrights of American
1:29:03
slaves that were freed that's the only way
1:29:06
it wasn't for so some people could come
1:29:08
in the ground and have a baby right
1:29:10
it's interpretation of the law as usual the
1:29:15
Board of Bulldog is also putting Candinavia on
1:29:18
notice with Joe Biden's time in the White
1:29:21
House rapidly running out and US President-elect
1:29:24
Donald Trump naming his new team of top
1:29:27
officials at a furious pace Deputy Prime Minister
1:29:30
Chrystia Freeland today chaired a meeting of the
1:29:33
federal government's newly reactivated Cabinet Committee on Canada
1:29:37
-US relations but that relationship looks almost certain
1:29:41
to become more complicated on a number of
1:29:43
fronts one of Trump's key promises has been
1:29:46
to carry out mass deportations of migrants who
1:29:49
have entered the US mainly via Mexico but
1:29:52
in an interview this week Tom Homan Trump's
1:29:55
newly appointed border czar put Canada on notice
1:29:58
over its border it's an extreme national security
1:30:02
national security vulnerability on northern border it's one
1:30:04
of the things I'll tackle some of them
1:30:06
in the world human smuggling has risen sharply
1:30:08
across the Canada-US border particularly between Eastern
1:30:12
Quebec New York and Vermont the US Border
1:30:15
Patrol says it encountered more than 19,000
1:30:18
people crossing in this area between October 2023
1:30:22
and October of this year Homan fears criminals
1:30:25
or terrorists could make their way into America
1:30:28
via this route and he wants more enforcement
1:30:31
on both sides yeah and look there has
1:30:33
to be President Trump had to work with
1:30:35
the Prime Minister Trudeau and said look you
1:30:38
need to enforce what immigration laws you have
1:30:40
because this is a gateway get out you
1:30:42
dirty Canadians get out get out of here
1:30:46
the border Bulldogs on the case this isn't
1:30:50
aside from something that was said in that
1:30:52
clip they're going they make a big point
1:30:56
of this too it's like Trump is appointing
1:30:58
people at a breakneck rate breakneck speed a
1:31:02
fast clip fast clip so it seems to
1:31:07
me Trump's been running for this job for
1:31:09
at least a year that it's it just
1:31:12
seems to me that if you're if you're
1:31:14
going to run for president and then become
1:31:17
president January 6 or whatever you get with
1:31:20
the 20th 20th 20 the 20th that's not
1:31:23
another riot the riot is on the 6th
1:31:25
after the right on the 6th you get
1:31:28
put in as president in the 20th the
1:31:30
wouldn't you have your cabinet and everything all
1:31:34
your ducks in a row like six months
1:31:36
before you even started your campaign wouldn't you
1:31:39
have everybody lined up ready to would you
1:31:42
like this job that job the other job
1:31:43
it just seems to me well he hasn't
1:31:45
lined up and I know yeah but it's
1:31:47
only part of why you just roll out
1:31:49
the entire cabinet in one day I mean
1:31:52
I don't see why this has to be
1:31:53
dragged out like this even though they say
1:31:55
well breakneck it's it's flip I think it's
1:31:57
slow it's my understanding the way President Trump
1:32:00
does these things he has a big list
1:32:02
and he puts a whole bunch of people
1:32:04
on it and he floats that around because
1:32:06
he wants to get feedback from people it's
1:32:08
almost like choosing the right UFC fighter you
1:32:11
know to who's gonna bring in the biggest
1:32:14
crowd what you know he has he has
1:32:16
all kinds of show business done that six
1:32:18
months ago well cuz he has recess appointments
1:32:21
that he's trying to get no but no
1:32:24
I'm just saying the list to pass the
1:32:26
list around could have been done well you
1:32:29
know I don't know maybe because he got
1:32:31
shot I don't know there's all kinds of
1:32:32
stuff going on he was find a whole
1:32:34
thing peculiar he was focusing on running and
1:32:37
I know that the press secretary I know
1:32:39
several people who were on the list including
1:32:42
my neighbor I don't know if I ever
1:32:44
brought that up but she was on the
1:32:46
list she was in Mar-a-Lago for
1:32:48
yeah you actually have discussed it for a
1:32:51
week and I'm I'm delighted to hear that
1:32:54
okay no I'm not better Alina ha ha
1:33:00
ha is going to be the spokeshole which
1:33:03
is great she's the thing she's a lawyer
1:33:06
she's cute that's what you want well if
1:33:10
you just want a cute spokesman that's all
1:33:13
you need it's all you need and I
1:33:15
and I also think she's not gonna do
1:33:16
something every single day I think maybe once
1:33:19
a week maybe every I don't think they're
1:33:21
gonna do he's learned from that mistake anyway
1:33:24
let's move on to another interesting pick I'll
1:33:28
set you up Hegseth's announcement coming as the
1:33:30
Wall Street Journal reports that the Trump transition
1:33:32
team is considering a draft of an executive
1:33:35
order that would create a panel of retired
1:33:37
military personnel empowered to review and recommend the
1:33:40
removal of three and four star generals that
1:33:43
order is still a draft but it's also
1:33:46
in line with previous comments from Hegseth echoing
1:33:48
Trump's claims that the military is being undermined
1:33:53
it's one thing to have DEI inside your
1:33:54
corporation or inside your university it's a whole
1:33:56
nother thing to have it inside the 101st
1:33:58
Airborne you can move to a different state
1:34:00
if you want to go to a different
1:34:01
school or if you want a different tax
1:34:03
rate we only have one military and if
1:34:05
the military goes woke then it is less
1:34:08
equipped to fight the wars that needs to
1:34:09
fight I'm straight up just saying we should
1:34:11
not have women in combat roles it hasn't
1:34:14
made us more effective hasn't made us more
1:34:16
lethal has made fighting more complicated we've all
1:34:18
served with women and they're great it's just
1:34:21
our institutions don't have to incentivize that in
1:34:24
places where traditionally not traditionally over human history
1:34:29
men in those positions are more capable okay
1:34:32
so he's anti-di DEI your thoughts on
1:34:35
Pete Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense well
1:34:40
this is the one I think maybe the
1:34:42
most controversial of the picks mainly because they
1:34:47
keep the left and the crappy media keeps
1:34:51
calling him a Fox host when he's actually
1:34:54
he is a Fox host but so is
1:34:56
it you know so are a lot of
1:34:57
different people I mean there's like coaches that
1:34:59
go on and do John Brennan's MSNBC host
1:35:04
yes but the thing is he's a two
1:35:07
-time decorated Afghanistan Iraq War vet both both
1:35:12
of them two bronze stars it's been running
1:35:14
or veterans organizations he's a buff guy the
1:35:19
guy's buffed and tatted up and he's a
1:35:21
kind of a interesting character he has no
1:35:26
I don't think it's a bad idea to
1:35:28
have somebody that is this adamant picked and
1:35:32
he probably is qualified to do something but
1:35:35
he's not he doesn't have a background of
1:35:38
a bureaucrat and he can't you know I
1:35:42
don't see how it's somebody like that can
1:35:43
run the Pentagon but taking your step and
1:35:48
saying who's gonna be under him I do
1:35:52
it him being the front man for somebody
1:35:55
else that we don't know who it is
1:35:56
yes this is the format I think would
1:35:58
make it all work fine and they do
1:36:00
to also at the same time learn the
1:36:02
ropes because the way I see it I
1:36:05
think he's probably a great guy smart I've
1:36:07
seen him talking because goes on all these
1:36:09
shows he handles himself well and he's a
1:36:13
Fox News host hello he can do that
1:36:16
he could do a great job of being
1:36:18
the front man for somebody who knew the
1:36:21
ropes of the bureaucracy and how it operates
1:36:24
which is something you just can't walk into
1:36:26
I mean I've worked in a bureaucracy myself
1:36:29
a government bureaucracy and it's it's daunting and
1:36:32
I don't see how you just don't take
1:36:34
charge of the Pentagon the one that can't
1:36:36
even get audited out of the blue with
1:36:39
no experience running a crazy organization like that
1:36:42
so it's I think now I'm gonna relent
1:36:46
and go with it he's he's not a
1:36:48
bad pick if you put the right guy
1:36:50
under him yes and so I agree we
1:36:53
don't yet have information on who the deputy
1:36:56
deputy Secretary of Defense would be but Pete
1:37:00
has all the right ideas and he is
1:37:03
I would say read in on the strategy
1:37:07
and he knows how to talk about it
1:37:09
he knows how to sell it as witnessed
1:37:11
by him on the Sean Ryan podcast the
1:37:15
Pentagon is in the book the exact amount
1:37:18
of years but in the past X number
1:37:20
of years 10 12 15 the Pentagon has
1:37:23
a perfect record in all of its war
1:37:25
games against China we lose every time inside
1:37:30
the Pentagon war games we know what our
1:37:33
real capability you see we didn't even get
1:37:35
to this part of the war on warriors
1:37:36
I mean the military-industrial complex the way
1:37:38
we procure weapon systems you know we're always
1:37:41
the way our system works the way our
1:37:43
bureaucratic system works where the speed of weapons
1:37:45
procurement works we're always a decade behind in
1:37:49
fighting the last war whereas China there we
1:37:53
have a we have you know what Rumsfeld
1:37:55
say you go to the war of the
1:37:56
army you have we have the army China's
1:37:58
building an army specifically dedicated to defeating the
1:38:02
United States of America that is that is
1:38:03
their strategic outset take hypersonic missiles so if
1:38:06
our whole if our whole power projection platform
1:38:10
is aircraft carriers and the ability to project
1:38:12
power that way strategically around the globe and
1:38:14
yeah we have a nuclear triad and all
1:38:15
of that but a big part of it
1:38:17
and if you know 15 hypersonic missiles can
1:38:19
take out our 10 aircraft carriers in the
1:38:21
first 20 minutes of a conflict what does
1:38:24
that look like yeah I mean and and
1:38:27
when they're if they've already got us by
1:38:29
the balls economically which you pointed out very
1:38:32
well with our grid culturally there's plenty of
1:38:35
elite capture going on around the globe I
1:38:38
mean and then microchips and everything why do
1:38:41
they want Taiwan they want to corner the
1:38:42
market completely on the technological future we can't
1:38:46
even drive our cars without the stuff we
1:38:47
need out of China these days I mean
1:38:49
they they have a full spectrum long-term
1:38:54
view of not just regional but global domination
1:38:57
and we are we have our heads up
1:38:59
our asses Pete knows exactly how to sell
1:39:02
China he's going to be perfect as Secretary
1:39:05
of Defense it's perfect whoever runs it underneath
1:39:11
him we don't know yeah he's perfect that
1:39:16
would be more money spent oh well yes
1:39:19
in fact which is gonna have to be
1:39:21
done because the way things are going is
1:39:23
going to I mean I still think 2026
1:39:26
is gonna be a economic finally yeah and
1:39:29
we need that we need the 2026 economic
1:39:31
crash and then we're gonna rebuild it the
1:39:33
best way to rebuild an economic crash between
1:39:36
between two countries because China also has economic
1:39:41
issues is to pretend we got war let's
1:39:44
build some and then we need hypersonic missiles
1:39:46
we still need big beautiful ships and subs
1:39:49
that go deeper than anyone else's boots on
1:39:51
the ground from one of a senior airman
1:39:54
in the United States Air Force I work
1:39:57
maintenance on b-52s and you guys are
1:39:59
talking about China on the last episode I
1:40:00
have some insight on what they tell us
1:40:02
about the upcoming conflict we made new aircraft
1:40:05
maintenance units also known as AMU's that are
1:40:08
now bomber generation squadrons with the intent to
1:40:11
have them ready to go as quickly as
1:40:13
possible for upcoming missions and conflicts on China
1:40:16
they tell us constantly to stay ready for
1:40:19
the upcoming conflict that it will be sooner
1:40:21
rather than later we are sending birds all
1:40:24
over the world as an act of deterrence
1:40:26
we are expecting sometime between 25 26 to
1:40:31
start a conflict as they believe that China
1:40:33
will take Taiwan soon since they have a
1:40:35
lowering birth rates and the population is diminishing
1:40:38
and the time to act is now next
1:40:41
boots on the ground Lockheed Martin sitting here
1:40:44
in real time at my Lockheed Martin all
1:40:46
hands meeting same guy I mentioned in my
1:40:49
last boots on the ground correspondence was on
1:40:51
stage same China warning a new face is
1:40:54
on the stage now decorated female marine heavy
1:40:57
lift pilot she is going deep on the
1:40:59
China rhetoric pushing heavy marine recruitment goals to
1:41:03
be ready for wait for it 2027 China
1:41:07
issues it's far from behind the scenes now
1:41:09
out in the open and the Trump appointments
1:41:11
line up with this perfectly I do believe
1:41:14
he says you guys nailed this one this
1:41:18
is this is a setup and to me
1:41:21
and I think you probably agree China's in
1:41:23
on it we're not gonna blow up China
1:41:26
they're not gonna blow up America we need
1:41:29
each other we're mutually beneficial and certainly in
1:41:33
how we gonna how we gonna dig ourselves
1:41:36
out of this economic problem we have well
1:41:39
we need something to build I'm not gonna
1:41:42
build computers and I will build computers but
1:41:44
computers are the problem with computers are they're
1:41:47
naturally cheaper as time goes by yeah you
1:41:50
need isn't it's a deflationary product it's no
1:41:53
good you need hypersonic missiles and it's gonna
1:41:58
be great it's gonna be great and by
1:42:01
the way I think that Colorado now did
1:42:06
Colorado vote completely Democrat as expected yes Colorado
1:42:10
you're out of the game with a second
1:42:12
Trump term comes a renewed fight over a
1:42:15
permanent headquarters for US Space Command Alabama congressman
1:42:19
Mike Rogers telling his home state on a
1:42:21
radio talk show Monday he expects the president
1:42:24
-elect to order Space Command to relocate from
1:42:26
Colorado Springs to Huntsville as soon as he
1:42:30
takes office those
1:42:35
comments reigniting the years-long fight over the
1:42:42
command's permanent home US Senator John Higginlooper saying
1:42:46
Colorado Springs is the best place for Space
1:42:48
Command because it's already at work here congressman
1:42:51
Doug Lamborn raising security concerns quote as the
1:42:54
world becomes more dangerous we cannot afford any
1:42:57
lapse in combat readiness the Colorado Springs chamber
1:43:00
estimates the area would lose out on 450
1:43:03
million annually serves you right Colorado okay and
1:43:07
by the way this is not a new
1:43:09
phenomenon this is what Bill Clinton did yep
1:43:14
when he pulled the super collider which was
1:43:17
being was probably almost 10 minutes from being
1:43:20
finished monstrous product that would have that sir
1:43:26
it was essentially CERN that we would have
1:43:29
here in the United States and he just
1:43:30
pulled the plug on it because Texas voted
1:43:32
Republican I'm going to take the lead on
1:43:35
the last two controversial or interesting appointments this
1:43:40
would be Senator Marco Rubio as Secretary of
1:43:43
State and this a waltz character who will
1:43:46
be Director of National Intelligence this clip says
1:43:51
it all I want to start this evening
1:43:52
with CNN's Jim Schuette who is joining me
1:43:54
on the phone on this breaking news Jim
1:43:56
I just want to first get your take
1:43:58
on hearing that it doesn't appear this is
1:44:00
formal yet but but if Trump is leaning
1:44:02
in this direction and that is what all
1:44:04
of our sourcing is indicating at this hour
1:44:07
significance of a Marco Rubio as a Trump
1:44:10
pick for Secretary of State would be in
1:44:12
your view for one very much Caitlyn puts
1:44:15
China at the center of Trump's foreign policy
1:44:18
the combination of Rubio and waltz both of
1:44:21
whom are big China hawks Rubio's portfolio in
1:44:25
China goes back years he's drawn attention to
1:44:28
China's trade practices he's pushed for restrictions on
1:44:33
selling advanced technology to China he's highlighted China's
1:44:37
mass incarceration and forced labor of Uyghurs in
1:44:40
Xinjiang as well as China's intelligence gathering inside
1:44:44
this country so he has a deep and
1:44:46
long resume on China and listen shouldn't be
1:44:51
surprising given that Trump himself of course it
1:44:53
has made China a target both of his
1:44:56
national security policy but also with economic policy
1:44:59
the discussions during the campaign of imposing significant
1:45:02
tariffs on Chinese goods and this would bring
1:45:08
to his team a Rubio and a waltz
1:45:12
to individuals with history there and focus on
1:45:16
China is it becoming clear to everybody what's
1:45:18
going on it's we can we can predict
1:45:23
everything we can predict it all we've been
1:45:25
doing this China it's China and that's why
1:45:29
Rubio was chosen he's perfect and if he
1:45:32
gets out of line a Marco what's that
1:45:33
in your mouth we know you were probably
1:45:37
got plenty of photos you were a dancer
1:45:39
we I mean dancer mm-hmm yeah he
1:45:42
was mm-hmm mm-hmm any more thoughts
1:45:45
on those no I think that there was
1:45:50
I think there was another angle to this
1:45:52
which is the which I have to which
1:45:54
I did bring up at the newsletter I
1:45:55
think I said it pretty succinctly there which
1:45:57
is Cenk Uygur's thesis what was that again
1:46:00
which a shank it's not that I listen
1:46:04
to a show all the time but I
1:46:05
have to say his ranting of recently has
1:46:08
been quite entertaining and he claims that Rubio
1:46:11
and waltz and one I think one other
1:46:14
person were all put in because there were
1:46:18
there were is Israel Hawks and there was
1:46:23
at the behest of the huge amount of
1:46:25
money that was invested into the Trump campaign
1:46:28
by Miriam Adelson ah yeah yeah I do
1:46:31
remember that now yeah and so he says
1:46:34
that no one's talking about that and these
1:46:36
these pics had you had to pick some
1:46:38
Israel pro-israel Hawks to assuage her assuage
1:46:44
her now I don't like this waltz guy
1:46:46
what's his Rubio I think you're right Rubio
1:46:49
is controllable because of the what the photos
1:46:51
what's waltz his first name Oh Mike yeah
1:46:56
it's Mike yeah okay he is a he's
1:47:02
just a he's like the Holman type guy
1:47:05
he's a grumpy looking prick who I have
1:47:11
mixed feelings about so I'm not a big
1:47:13
fan of his but again it's like if
1:47:15
he's gonna be the director and he's not
1:47:18
the DNI he's the security oh it's it
1:47:23
Tulsi's DNI and he's the national security adviser
1:47:25
is that the idea is national security national
1:47:28
security adviser is usually a spook my uncle
1:47:32
was national security adviser to Bush yeah that's
1:47:36
well they have spooky they're very spooky in
1:47:39
some way or other that's for sure it's
1:47:40
a spook job and so this guy and
1:47:42
he I think he was a spook and
1:47:44
they have to then we have to see
1:47:46
the guy they're gonna head up to CIA
1:47:47
who is another guy I don't care for
1:47:49
he was the old DNI guy and we
1:47:54
might as well discuss Tulsi as the DNI
1:47:56
person I think that's a good pick she's
1:47:59
gotta have BS she's suspicious I like Tulsi
1:48:07
I have everybody likes Tulsi that's that's it
1:48:10
even better I mean nobody doesn't like her
1:48:14
that's as good and it's not like Bolton
1:48:17
I mean everything Bolton was creepy at least
1:48:19
Tulsi's we like her you know Tulsi she's
1:48:22
great what was Bolton's job I thought he
1:48:28
was no I don't think so I think
1:48:31
it was just a just a dipshit did
1:48:33
it in the White House of something or
1:48:35
other now what I'm a DIW what's that
1:48:38
dipshit in the White House yeah to give
1:48:43
some credence to your 2026 prediction there's new
1:48:45
evidence that Americans are drowning in debt credit
1:48:48
card balances hit a new record high between
1:48:50
July and September more than 1 trillion dollars
1:48:53
and total household debt which includes credit cards
1:48:56
student and car loans and mortgages also broke
1:48:58
a record on the bright side wages are
1:49:01
now rising at a faster pace and debt
1:49:03
so things aren't all that great yet and
1:49:08
what you think may be the catalyst is
1:49:11
of course a major portion a major part
1:49:14
of Trump's appeal to some technology sectors including
1:49:19
myself Bitcoin is nearing $90,000 in fact
1:49:23
it's up about 30% since November 5th
1:49:26
traders are betting on Trump's promises to be
1:49:29
a crypto president by lowering regulation and ushering
1:49:33
in a crypto friendly Congress reporter Hannah Lang
1:49:37
has been looking into what kinds of changes
1:49:39
the industry expects from the new administration the
1:49:43
crypto industry is broadly expecting that the Trump
1:49:46
administration will be more lax on enforcement and
1:49:50
overall take a very different approach than the
1:49:54
current SEC where they've claimed that most crypto
1:49:58
tokens are securities and need to be registered
1:50:00
as such and provide disclosures to investors the
1:50:03
crypto industry disagrees with that sentiment so they
1:50:07
claim that they've had difficulty really lifting some
1:50:12
of the guardrails in place so there are
1:50:16
some people in the industry that are hopeful
1:50:18
that with the Republican majority in the Senate
1:50:21
and probably the house as well it really
1:50:25
enables legislation to be passed through a reconciliation
1:50:28
where you could see a crypto bill kind
1:50:31
of tacked on to a larger spending or
1:50:33
tax bill that could pass kind of in
1:50:35
a fast-tracked way with a simple majority
1:50:37
since the election Bitcoin actually blew through 93
1:50:42
,000 hit 94,000 back down again I
1:50:45
think somewhere eight high 87 I did reach
1:50:48
out to the former New York banker a
1:50:50
skeptic of Bitcoin and I said how about
1:50:54
that Bitcoin his reply the more real it
1:50:59
gets the sooner they will crush it okay
1:51:03
he's probably that's an interesting take yeah just
1:51:07
giving you the inside info no I'm biased
1:51:09
but he said crush they will crush it
1:51:13
so well you know I'm still waiting for
1:51:16
Goldman Sachs to collapse I think he had
1:51:19
that on his list too and that was
1:51:20
a couple years ago been waiting no I
1:51:23
think the I still have a feeling that
1:51:25
Trump's love of the stable coin that that
1:51:28
is his way of printing money because if
1:51:31
I understand how the stable coin works there
1:51:34
the tether is probably the biggest USD T
1:51:38
is the biggest stable coin now and or
1:51:41
the biggest buyer of treasuries and other debt
1:51:44
instruments to back their stable coin which is
1:51:48
one for one with the US dollar and
1:51:50
it's a great way to print money it's
1:51:53
like oh whatever works you got you guys
1:51:55
if you just buy our debt and then
1:51:57
turn that into dollars that we can use