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November 21st, 2024 • 3h 24m

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Who's Dynamite?
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's November 21st, 2024.
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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
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assassination episode 1714.
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This is no agenda.
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Available for AGBM.
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Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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hill country here in FEMA region number six.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got
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Netanyahu, ICBMs, Matt Gaetz.
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What's going on?
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
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I'm glad you asked breaking at this hour,
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John.
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Breaking at this hour.
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No agenda news can exclusively reveal that Matt
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Gaetz has withdrawn from the attorney general position.
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Yes, as expected.
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Yes.
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Gee, didn't we say that would happen?
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Well, here's the scenario the way I see
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it.
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Matt, they definitely wanted to get Rubio in.
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And they have to replace him with somebody.
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As a senator?
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As senators.
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So you replace him with Matt Gaetz.
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But Matt Gaetz says, hey, I got this
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investigation going on.
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It's going to be an embarrassment.
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You're not going to be able to put
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me into Rubio's spot.
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Because he wants Rubio.
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He wants Matt Gaetz in there to counter.
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And you're going to see this.
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I guarantee you're going to see them on
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the same committees.
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Matt Gaetz and the creep from California.
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The turtle head guy.
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Oh, who slept with the Chinese spy.
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No, no.
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That's a congressman.
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We're talking about senators.
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Our new senator.
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Schiff.
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Adam Schiff.
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Schiff.
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Okay.
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So they need a guy to argue with
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Adam Schiff.
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So they're going to want to put Gaetz
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in there.
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So now Gaetz can't get the job with
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this investigation going on.
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So here's the deal.
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And I think Trump, because of the four
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years he's been spending scheming, he can come
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up with these things faster than he used
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to.
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He goes, okay, we're going to pick you
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for attorney general.
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You can quit the house before they release
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the report.
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There'll be a big kerfuffle.
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And then all of a sudden, just before
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all shit hits the fan, you quit the
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denomination.
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Go back to Florida.
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You're not in the house anymore.
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And then you can be moved into Rubio's
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spot before anybody knows what the hell is
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going on.
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And you're going to be the next senator
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from Florida.
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I like the theory.
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I will add a little twist to that.
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Something that I thought would come up in
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the combo, but it didn't.
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Because I immediately tried to get a clip
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of Matt Gaetz resigning.
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Oh, I'm sure everyone's all over this.
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Breaking, breaking at this hour.
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And I couldn't get a clip.
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But I did get this.
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It's unclear what happens next, though, to your
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question of does it matter.
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Because Matt Gaetz, remember, was elected to serve
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in the 119th Congress.
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We are right now in the 118th Congress.
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The 119th Congress doesn't take power until January.
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And when Matt Gaetz resigned, he said that
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he does not intend to take his seat
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in the 119th Congress.
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But he didn't resign from that Congress because
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he can't.
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Because that Congress doesn't exist yet.
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So if Matt Gaetz wanted to come back
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to Congress and serve in his seat come
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January, in theory, he could try to do
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that.
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We do not know if he wants to.
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I'm checking in with sources close to Gaetz
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right now to figure out that exact question.
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What is next here for Matt Gaetz?
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But if he wanted to join Congress again
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come January, he technically could, Diane.
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Oh, technically, yeah, he technically could.
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So, well, you know what?
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You know what?
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It doesn't matter.
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It's fun.
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Everybody can run around with their hair on
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fire, you know, talking about it.
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And the culture war economy is, oh, boy,
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oh, this.
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The Trump.
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I have a supercut.
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I have a supercut of hair on fire.
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This week, Trump has been revealing his cabinet
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chock full of loyalists, sycophants and perennial bootlickers.
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Matt Gaetz is literally the worst pick in
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the world for attorney general.
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Significant concerns, horror even.
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Somebody said to me today, I can't think
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of any single individual who'd be more damaging
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to public health than RFK.
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He's not going to receive a very warm
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welcome from the career folks there.
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We've seen people today, our fellow reporters crying,
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hugging in the hallways.
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Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed secretary of defense, defends
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war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white
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nationalism and Christian nationalism.
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Are completely incompetent, who most American business owners
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wouldn't hire to run a taco stand.
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The former and future president is moving quickly
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to fill the clown car and round out
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his cabinet before he changes his mind and
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fires them all.
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If you've been accused of being weird and
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dangerous, it seems like Trump is doubling down
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on that.
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So television, I'll just call it what it
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is.
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Television has not taken a moment, not a
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beat, not just let's step back.
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Well, a couple happens.
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Let's just step back for a second and
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evaluate what has happened here.
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We failed in our mission to discredit Hitler,
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to prevent him from ascending his throne because
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he's literally a king now.
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And it doesn't matter.
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Let's just keep it going.
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And you know what?
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People are falling right in.
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Oh, it's great.
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Oh, we have more stuff to put on
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social media.
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Ah, it's groovy.
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So much that it's overflowing to new social
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media.
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Blue sky.
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Blue sky.
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I had a thing about blue sky.
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This was funny.
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Where was it?
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Here it is.
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Blue sky safety.
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They have a safety team over there, John.
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Just so you know, if you go to
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blue sky, if you leave the evil X
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and go to blue sky, they have a
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safety team.
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And they said in the past 24 hours,
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we've received more than 42,000 reports, an
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all time high for one day.
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We're receiving about 3,000 reports an hour.
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To put that into context, in all of
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2023.
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Oh, and then it cuts off for some
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reason.
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Why is this?
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So they didn't even receive that many reports
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in all of 2023.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's including child sexual abuse material.
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I bet there's all kinds of stuff.
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And because they have AI doing most of
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the work over there.
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So it's going to be a disaster.
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Now, the other thing is that I found
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interesting was somebody reposted it on Twitter.
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Of course, the thing about Twitter is that,
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you know, all these maniacs just grab stuff
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from every place else and post it on
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Twitter.
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You like TikTok?
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Yeah, we got it for you.
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You like blue sky?
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We got it.
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Here you go.
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Put it on Twitter.
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And so they put it on Twitter.
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It's like a big aggregator.
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Rob Reiner, you know, has always been threatening
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to quit Twitter.
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I think he still has an account there.
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But now he went blue sky, blue sky.
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So he goes to blue sky.
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So they find a tweet or tweet or
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whatever, a posting on blue sky from Rob
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Reiner, who's now complaining that the kind of
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creeps that are on Twitter are now over
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on blue sky giving him grief.
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Gee, surprise.
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The hate is so much.
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I can't stand it.
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Get off of all of that.
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None of it's good.
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These are digital towers of Babel filled with
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A.I. slop in their stairwells.
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It's all no good.
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But everybody, including my friends, all in.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, Megyn Kelly.
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Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol.
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It goes on and on and on.
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Transgender.
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Oh, I'll get to that.
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But.
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That's a classic.
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In a rare moment, Lulu over there at
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CNN, Lourdes, but everyone calls her Lulu.
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She had a rare moment.
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I don't think she realized Lulu.
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She's we talked about her.
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She's the possible spook.
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Lourdes.
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She's a possible spook is CNN.
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What am I saying?
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Let me write that down for an idea.
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Yeah, come on.
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We talked about her.
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Lulu.
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I don't know who it might have, but
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I'll get it for you.
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Garcia Navarro.
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Lulu Garcia Navarro, of course, also known as
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Lulu.
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Don't ring a bell.
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So Lulu.
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Well, they call her Lulu.
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Lulu's on the Burnett woman's show.
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Six million dollars a year.
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Yeah.
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Six million dollars a year, we're told.
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And she has a rare moment of perfectly,
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perfectly describing Trump's appointee strategy, which we deconstructed
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two shows ago, I think, of having a
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front person who makes all the noise, the
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lightning rod, and have someone in the background
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who does all the work.
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So perfect is the first buddy.
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Elon, also known as the modern day Edison
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and Vivek, Vivek, I should say Vivek.
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Vivek as in cake.
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Yeah, people keep saying, you guys, you're always
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so precise about pronunciation and words you shouldn't
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say, but it's Vivek, so you should say
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it right.
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Yes, this is right.
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You know, we've trained our producers to be
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the way we are, which is sticklers for
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this sort of thing.
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And so now they become sticklers and they
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give us grief.
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There you go.
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So listen to Lulu as she figures it
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out.
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I still don't think she realizes exactly what
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she's figured out.
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So look, take a step back.
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There's a lot of people who get put
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into these jobs who haven't overseen much, right?
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So I'm not going to say the fact
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that he hasn't overseen something that large is
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disqualifying in and of itself.
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But the history here is relevant.
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The history is relevant.
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When I was listening right now, I thought
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that what was going to be announced was
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Dr. Phil was going to be the surgeon
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general.
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So at least we're not there yet.
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Yet.
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But listen, what is happening here is this.
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We are now in Donald Trump's TV show.
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And this is the world we're living in
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now.
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He is casting the characters that he wants
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to play in his administration.
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And the point behind this is actually a
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serious one.
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They're not just good looking people.
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They're very effective communicators who actually are recognizable
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to the American public.
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If you think about why Donald Trump thinks
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he won this election, it's because he was
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able to have a consistent message.
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People listen to him.
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He is recognizable.
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And he was palling around with people like
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Elon Musk.
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He is putting people in these positions that
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people know and that can sell his policies.
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So whatever he does, there are going to
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be people who are able to go out
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into the manosphere, into podcasts, on cable news,
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and talk about it in a way that
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people will relate to.
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And I think that's what he's up to.
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So I like that she says Donald Trump
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thinks he won because of this strategy.
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I don't know why she thinks he won.
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But this is the strategy.
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Absolutely.
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Well, if she's a spook, he won because
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this whole thing was a scam.
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It was set up to win.
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It had nothing to do with whatever strategy.
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And she knew that.
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That's why she said that.
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By the way, are we in the manosphere?
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We're in the manosphere.
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We're in the manosphere.
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Welcome to the manosphere.
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The manosphere.
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I wrote that down as a show title.
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Manosphere.
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I think it might have been overused by
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now.
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I mean, yeah.
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Manosphere.
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Oh, I'll put it down as a possibility.
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Manosphere.
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So, yeah.
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Abby, your girl, Abby.
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Abby Phillip.
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You had clips of her on the last
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show.
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Abby Phillip from CNN.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The black newsreader.
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Yeah.
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So, she was at the Harvard School Institute
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of Politics on the panel.
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On the panel.
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And she's- Boy, you really got to
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be- I don't want to say you
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have to be hard up for attention.
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I've never been invited.
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If the Harvard Institute of Politics- You
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wouldn't go?
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Of course I would.
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Do I get a per diem?
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Do I get travel expenses?
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Then I'm not going.
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If you're not going to pay for my
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travel expenses and a per diem, I'm not
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going to go.
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You should get an honorarium at least, not
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a per diem.
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That would be good.
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So, she also comes very close to understanding
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what's going on.
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And on one hand, I'm delighted because I
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love seeing people waking up and, you know,
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kind of like Anna Kasparian and Jillian Michaels.
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I love seeing these people wake up.
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On the other hand, it'll ruin the show
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if they figure it out.
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I have observed- You know, I know
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exactly what you're thinking.
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And I agree with the basic thought, but
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the hordes of people that aren't going to
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figure it out are going to be the
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Rob Reiners and the rest of them.
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They're always going to be around to keep
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the show going.
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I have observed that elites increasingly talk only
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to each other and come to believe that
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because there is consensus among them, that that
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consensus is shared broadly.
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And there are not enough voices that are
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confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives.
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And we, as a society, need to find
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better ways to uplift divergent voices.
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Otherwise, we will be victims of groupthink.
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And there is an activist class- I
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think this is particularly acute in the Democratic
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Party right now.
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There is an activist class in the Democratic
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Party that is multiracial, multi-ethnic.
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It is diverse, but it's an activist class.
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And so because of that, they're not able
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to see outside of that.
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And Republicans had the same problem before Trump.
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The heritage foundations of the world, et cetera,
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right?
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They had the same issue, fundamental issue, but
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Trump kind of broke them out of it.
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The Democrats are in that place now where
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they have to break out of it.
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Yeah, they need someone to break them out
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of it.
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Not that they have one, but they need
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to be broken out of that elitist culture.
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I love the self-realization.
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I think it's healthy.
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It's good for them.
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Why do they need anyone to break them
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out of it?
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They were doing fine with it.
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They're still doing fine with it.
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You just want the show.
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They lost an elite.
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I mean, I'll take their side.
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Okay.
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They lost an election, barely.
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It could have gone either way, as everyone
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noticed.
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Yeah, they did win everything, but it's beside
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the point.
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They'll be corrected in the midterms, and the
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Democrats will be right back where they were,
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more or less.
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At least they'll have enough people in Congress
15:33
in one house or the other to stop
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Trump, and then they can impeach him again,
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because it'd be good to be a third
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time would be good.
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And the elitist approach that they're using, which
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is the right approach, because they're elitists.
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If you're an elitist, it's not like you're
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going to change.
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Well, there's elitist Republicans.
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Yeah, there's tons of them.
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Yeah.
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So what are you saying?
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I don't think anything.
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I think the few people that are on
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the fringes that are, you know, that for
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some reason, like Julian Michaels is a good
16:10
example, that just got fed up with one
16:13
thing or another, or Kasparian, who only got
16:15
fed up because she got condemned for being
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a racist when she wasn't.
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Yeah.
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If it wasn't for those little moments of
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mistakes made by the elitist, because they're idiots.
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They're not elitist at all, really.
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If you want elitist, you know, you got
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Jacob Rothschild.
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There's an elitist.
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Is he still alive?
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Didn't he just die?
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No, he died.
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He died, unfortunately.
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But the Rothschild family is, you know, that's
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real elitism.
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It's not, you know, and they're not, they
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don't act like this.
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These guys are phonies.
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They're just academic elitists and they're full of
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crap and they're not going to change.
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Why would they?
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What?
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No, no, you're right.
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I have a podcast clip.
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If you want to hear some dumb, I
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have a new category in my clip folder
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called Dumb Dems.
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Dumb Dems.
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Dumb Dems.
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These are Dumb Dems.
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And I'm not against the, I'm not against
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any anyone's political views per se, but these
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are Dumb Dems.
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And this is the Slate Political Gab Fest
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podcast.
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And so they're discussing...
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It's from Slate?
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Yes, from Slate.
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Washington Post.
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Yes.
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And so they're discussing this very issue.
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And it's incredible that the young woman who
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is going to explain what is going on,
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she has the most Dumb Dem vocal fry
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I've ever heard as she explains this.
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If you need to interrupt and stop it,
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let me know.
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Emily, last question on this topic.
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Do you think, as some have argued, I
17:51
think Ezra Klein has argued this, that the
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Democrats are a party that roots out heretics
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and doesn't look for converts?
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Or is that actually true?
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Does the party need to have a kind
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of broad, encompassing, welcoming attitude that it doesn't
18:04
have?
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I think that right now the party is
18:07
associated with a lot of purity tests.
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Mike Peska of the podcast The Gist wrote
18:13
a piece in The Atlantic this week comparing
18:14
the Democratic Party to HR departments, talking about
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them as like being the sort of fussy
18:20
place of compliance and language policing and rules,
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none of which is a whole lot of
18:26
fun, even though it's sometimes necessary.
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And I thought that was a good metaphor
18:31
for capturing what doesn't feel broadly welcoming.
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I think to a lot of people as
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we're thinking about this today, and I was
18:38
writing, how do we describe deportation policies?
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And my natural instinct, maybe it's because I'm
18:43
badly trained on decades of false language, is
18:47
to say illegal immigrants or even illegal aliens.
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And I'm like, oh, but am I allowed
18:51
to say that anymore?
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I better not say that.
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I should say undocumented.
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And am I supposed to say undocumented immigrants?
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Undocumented.
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Do you see the struggle?
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These people?
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Do you see the the torment?
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No.
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Torment.
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Great.
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The torment.
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People undocumented.
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They're tormented by their own set of procedure
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procedures.
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They have this rule based party.
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It's rule based.
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Rule based.
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And you've got this, this, you got to
19:16
do this.
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You got to use pronouns.
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You got to do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You got to wear a badge that says
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I'm a him, her.
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You got to do that.
19:22
It's all these rules.
19:23
And it's like this.
19:24
It's like the bureaucracy just boiled into like
19:26
a party.
19:28
People undocumented.
19:30
And I was like, I don't even know
19:31
what to do.
19:32
And I feel like there's a whole bunch
19:34
of GabFest listeners are going to judge me
19:36
based on whatever language I've used.
19:38
So it's obviously, that's a very extremely tiny
19:42
example.
19:43
But it did occur to me today.
19:45
It's not that tiny.
19:46
I mean, I think there is, to me,
19:48
something troubling about calling a person illegal.
19:51
Like they know if that bothers you.
19:53
Of course.
19:53
Of course.
19:55
But I do agree with you that deciding
19:57
that that means that you have to excommunicate
19:59
someone is a different step.
20:02
From hearing it and wondering whether that's really
20:05
a good idea or not.
20:08
I had to get the fry in there.
20:10
The fry.
20:11
The fry.
20:11
The fry.
20:12
So now that's all good and fine.
20:14
But if you are trying to break out
20:17
of the mold, and you may have the
20:20
other motives such as, oh my God, they're
20:24
going to sell our station.
20:25
And you're like.
20:27
I have a bunch of clips.
20:29
Yeah.
20:29
I know.
20:29
I know.
20:29
I'm leading you into it.
20:31
Thank you.
20:33
They're going to sell the station.
20:34
I have to before you go in this.
20:36
I had to turn on CNBC this morning.
20:39
I wanted to see what's going on anyway.
20:41
Yeah.
20:41
And so they're all freaked out about it
20:43
because I'll tell you this.
20:45
If you want to put a name on
20:46
the list of someone who's going to come
20:47
out of this just fine.
20:49
Is this Kelly Evans woman?
20:51
She's the one who's the most talented presenter
20:54
on CNBC.
20:56
Person of all very good.
20:58
Is she the blonde?
20:59
No, no, no.
21:00
She's a brunette.
21:01
She's black hair.
21:01
Right, right, right.
21:02
Yeah, she and she is just she never
21:06
flubs.
21:07
She's fast on her feet.
21:08
She knows what she's doing.
21:10
She is a she should be one of
21:12
the nightly news anchors.
21:15
She might be just a bit too young.
21:17
And they may have put a few years
21:18
on her by putting her in something else.
21:20
But she's the one who come out ahead
21:22
on this whole thing, even though you can
21:23
tell she's worried sick.
21:26
They're always at CNBC.
21:28
And I think CNBC got the short end
21:30
of this deal.
21:31
You're moving ahead.
21:32
You're moving ahead too fast.
21:33
OK, OK, go on.
21:35
You take it.
21:36
Stop me first.
21:38
First, we have to stick with MSNBC, the
21:40
weakest sister of the bunch.
21:42
And Joe and Mika went to see President
21:45
elect Trump and talk with them.
21:47
I actually have clips, but I don't think
21:49
I'll play those because they're just so annoying.
21:51
And they're like, oh, well, you know, we're
21:53
not doing this to kiss the ring.
21:55
Well, yeah, that's not what Rosie O'Donnell thought.
21:58
So Mika and Joe went down to Mar
22:00
-a-Lago to kiss the ring.
22:03
It's the last time I ever watched Morning
22:04
Joe.
22:05
Oh, no.
22:06
Period.
22:06
End of statement.
22:09
Unreal.
22:11
Unreal.
22:13
For months, you were telling us he's the
22:14
worst thing that could happen to this country
22:16
and democracy.
22:17
And then you go kiss his ring.
22:22
Despicable.
22:25
Despicable you.
22:26
Both of you.
22:27
Despicable you.
22:28
So what is she got a band in
22:30
the house there?
22:31
Where's that music coming from?
22:32
What is she?
22:32
She's doing a this is a tick tock
22:34
video and she's got an orchestra.
22:36
What is this music?
22:37
No, she's she's the kind of woman who
22:39
has that playing in her in her Manhattan
22:42
apartment.
22:43
You know, boy, man, from the because, you
22:45
know, I, I help, you know, she has
22:48
12 Emmys.
22:50
Do you know that I helped her get
22:51
her first job?
22:54
Pray tell that we're all now we're all
22:56
stopped to show us stop for a story.
23:01
Rosie O'Donnell was doing comedy stand up at
23:05
it was in West Orange made the name.
23:09
It's something like chuckles.
23:10
Obviously, I can't remember.
23:12
Yuck, yuck.
23:13
I can't remember what the name of it
23:15
was.
23:16
And Steve leads, who also lives in New
23:19
Jersey.
23:19
Steve is guy who hired me when I
23:21
was still in in Amsterdam.
23:23
Steve is still with us.
23:24
A good guy.
23:25
I talked to him maybe twice a year.
23:27
And so Steve had seen her.
23:29
He's like, she would be great for VH1
23:33
as a because, you know, MTV own VH1
23:36
as a VJ.
23:38
And so he brought her in and I
23:41
had to I think she the way it
23:45
was set up is she would have to
23:46
interview me and then do some segments and
23:50
which she did.
23:51
And, you know, she made fun of me
23:52
and it was kind of cute.
23:53
And she was back then.
23:55
Rosie O'Donnell had a pretty good stick.
23:57
It was pretty funny.
23:58
And she got hired for VH1 as a
24:00
VJ.
24:01
And that's how she started.
24:02
So I'll take some blame for it.
24:05
You should.
24:06
You should take all the blame.
24:08
So I'm going to lead you into your
24:10
into your clips.
24:13
First, with a with a little background.
24:17
So this is about the Comcast spin off.
24:22
And here's a I got this article from
24:25
where is this?
24:26
This is from CNBC itself.
24:28
There you go.
24:29
So just some data that's in here.
24:31
Cord cutting continues to impact the traditional TV
24:34
business.
24:35
Comcast lost three hundred and sixty five thousand
24:38
customers during the third quarter.
24:41
The industry overall lost roughly four million traditional
24:46
paying customers in the first six months of
24:48
the year.
24:49
Still traditional TV networks, TV networks remain cash
24:53
cows for media business.
24:54
Comcast reported in October that third quarter revenue
24:57
for its media segment, which is comprised of
25:00
the TV network, was nearly up 37 percent
25:02
to eight point two three billion, largely due
25:04
to the Olympics.
25:06
Without the summer games, revenue was up five
25:08
percent.
25:08
Disney executives recently said they do not plan
25:11
to separate their TV networks anytime soon, noting
25:14
the complexities of doing so, but they kind
25:16
of would like to do so.
25:18
So I got a clip from Bill O
25:22
'Reilly, who was still a blow hard.
25:25
I have that clip in my series.
25:27
Well, can I can I play it first?
25:29
The one with Cuomo?
25:30
Yeah.
25:31
You want me to play it now, just
25:32
since I have it racked up?
25:34
Or do you want to do your series?
25:37
You know, that's interesting.
25:39
Yes.
25:40
You have the whole thing.
25:42
Minute 40.
25:44
My O'Reilly clip is 248.
25:46
I play.
25:46
I have the whole thing.
25:47
OK, then why don't you go?
25:49
Which is interruptible.
25:50
You can interrupt.
25:50
Yeah.
25:50
Go into yours.
25:51
Do you want me to play that one
25:52
first?
25:53
Well, no, because I want to I have
25:55
the same clip, but I have the I
25:56
have a longer version, which may be more.
25:58
Yeah, but do this.
25:59
Do your series, whatever you want to do.
26:01
I'm glad you brought this up because I
26:03
didn't know if I should put the O
26:05
'Reilly thing at the beginning or I should
26:06
put it at the end of the series.
26:08
But since you brought it up, let's start
26:10
playing that clip that you talked about.
26:13
He's he's on Cuomo on news.
26:16
Cuomo, who is still a dope, by the
26:18
way, he's just a dope.
26:19
He doesn't know anything.
26:21
I think he even says, oh, I only
26:22
know what the news says.
26:23
OK, news boy.
26:26
Exactly.
26:26
I agree.
26:28
I agree with that.
26:28
Yes, he's kind of a he's just a
26:31
you know, he's a he's a percent.
26:33
He's a presentable male.
26:35
He's just dope.
26:36
Comcast said you two were going to have
26:38
to try to mend some cliche fences and
26:42
you two are going to go in there
26:43
and you're going to try.
26:44
He's talking about Joe and Mika here.
26:46
Yes, he's talking about Joe and Mika.
26:51
Going.
26:52
Yeah.
26:52
Yeah.
26:53
Yeah.
26:53
And if you if this clip is interrupted,
26:55
there's a spot where they talk about Sonny
26:57
Hoskins.
26:58
Yeah, that's important, too.
26:59
That's where you're going to stop.
27:00
I think you have.
27:01
Yeah, well, you're going to stop it.
27:03
OK, I to tamp it down because Comcast
27:07
knew the next day they were going to
27:09
announce that MSNBC is vapor.
27:13
That is a huge media story.
27:15
Why is it vapor?
27:16
Just because they're putting them in the spitting
27:19
off a bunch of spin off.
27:21
There is a spin off company.
27:22
There's no spin off that.
27:25
See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo.
27:27
Oh, OK.
27:27
See what I mean?
27:28
I'm just saying what's being reported.
27:29
By the way, I don't know what O
27:31
'Reilly is talking about here, but there is
27:34
a spin off and there are executives moving
27:36
over and it will be its own entity.
27:39
It is technically what's the name of it?
27:43
Spin Co.
27:46
No, really?
27:46
You believe that really is it called spin?
27:48
You're kidding me.
27:49
I'm not getting a spin.
27:51
Co.
27:51
That's like new Co.
27:53
I mean, you're dead.
27:54
So you're dead when you're spun off into
27:57
spin Co LLC.
27:58
All right.
27:59
But how do what do you know?
28:00
Yeah, I know.
28:01
But why would you believe what's being reported?
28:03
You want the real story?
28:04
Yes, please.
28:06
So they're uncoupling their word Comcast MSNBC from
28:11
NBC News.
28:12
That means MSNBC is no resources at all.
28:15
Not they're not going to be able to
28:16
pay these people millions of dollars, racial matter,
28:19
whatever she's making.
28:20
NBC News is saying we don't want you
28:23
around.
28:24
Why?
28:25
Because NBC News's numbers, Lester Holt and The
28:28
Today Show are catastrophe because half the country
28:32
equates NBC News with MSNBC and they won't
28:36
watch.
28:37
So NBC is desperately trying to save the
28:40
mothership of information and they have to throw
28:43
MSNBC overboard.
28:45
They're not putting anything into MSNBC.
28:48
They want to sell it.
28:50
So where's Georgie Soros now?
28:52
Georgie's buying radio stations.
28:54
You can get MSNBC for nothing.
28:57
OK, first of all, weak to say Georgie's
28:59
buying radio stations.
29:00
We know what's really going on there.
29:02
But the radio station is very different from
29:06
this MSNBC without the cable network.
29:08
So that's a little weak from O'Reilly.
29:13
Why, why, why?
29:15
I'm going to talk to you like this.
29:17
Let me tell you, the spinoff of the
29:18
cable companies are suffering dwindling.
29:20
Why?
29:20
Well, that's because that's a very annoying thing
29:23
he does.
29:24
This is you.
29:25
You had some comments about Cuomo.
29:26
I'll have a comment about O'Reilly.
29:28
I think he's a blowhard and a prick.
29:30
OK, they'll give it to you.
29:33
They don't want any more of this.
29:36
Why?
29:36
Because it's hateful.
29:38
Not because it's so far left.
29:40
The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left,
29:43
but it's hateful.
29:44
You see, I disagree with this, too.
29:47
I mean, not that they're hateful, but if
29:49
hateful works, which it did for a long
29:52
time, they wouldn't putting it and be putting
29:54
into spinco.
29:56
They'd be giving him medals.
29:57
But it's just not working anymore.
30:00
They were, you know, when this little history
30:03
lesson out there, you have to remember that
30:05
MSNBC, which I had worked for for a
30:08
while.
30:09
I was there.
30:10
I was there at the launch before they
30:13
had before they had.
30:19
Before Princess Diana died, that's when it changed.
30:22
It was it was kind of a normal.
30:24
It was Microsoft and MSNBC is supposed to
30:26
be a tech channel.
30:28
It was Microsoft.
30:29
Yeah.
30:29
Microsoft NBC.
30:31
Yes.
30:32
Yeah.
30:32
And then eventually NBC just bought Microsoft out,
30:35
but they kept the name.
30:36
And then it became a kind of a
30:38
gossipy channel because the princess died.
30:41
And then it still was languishing.
30:43
And so the guy who I have to
30:45
say he probably made it what it was
30:47
during the Bush administration was Keith Olbermann.
30:50
Yes.
30:51
Good point.
30:52
He came on with a hateful.
30:54
Yeah.
30:55
Show.
30:57
And he and he's a hateful guy, very
30:59
hateful, and he he's the one who trained
31:02
Rachel Maddow.
31:04
And he mentored her to be the jerk
31:08
that she is, and she's the one who
31:09
trained the other guy, the the the guy
31:13
with the glasses.
31:14
Yeah, yeah.
31:14
Chris Hayes.
31:15
Chris Hayes.
31:17
She trained him.
31:18
So he's the third generation of hater.
31:20
Chris the queen.
31:23
And so so so it has a checkered
31:26
past, but it really, really got its start
31:28
during the hateful era of Olbermann.
31:32
And and I'd just like to say to
31:33
trolls and I've seen this floating around and
31:36
also good friends of mine text me this.
31:38
Hey, Elon might buy MSNBC and then make
31:42
sure to do a good channel.
31:43
MSNBC by itself is not worth anything without
31:46
the distribution.
31:47
The problem is the cord cutting.
31:49
That is the problem.
31:51
You know, what people watch these channels the
31:52
most right now is on YouTube TV.
31:55
YouTube TV is the biggest distributor of what
31:57
used to be cable programming by far.
32:00
For good reason.
32:01
Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs.
32:04
It's cheaper.
32:05
Tons of reasons for it.
32:08
I don't even know if they're making money
32:10
on it.
32:11
I don't think I can't believe that they
32:12
are.
32:13
I don't think they don't care that DVR
32:15
thing.
32:15
You could break them.
32:16
Yeah, here we go.
32:17
But it's hateful.
32:19
They hate Trump.
32:20
They hate people who vote for Trump.
32:23
Everybody knows that.
32:25
And you know what's next?
32:26
The view.
32:27
All right.
32:28
I'll stop it right there.
32:32
And this is why I kept this clip.
32:34
I didn't even know you had it.
32:35
I missed it in your lineup.
32:37
But I did see you had the Sonny
32:39
Hoskins reading.
32:42
So I'll let him intro what you had
32:44
to do.
32:45
Well, let him finish his thought because he
32:47
mentions this and then we'll cut to the
32:48
Sonny Hoskins.
32:49
I want to thank one of our producers
32:50
for sending me.
32:51
I've seen these Hoskins things a couple of
32:54
times.
32:54
I never recorded him.
32:56
Somebody sent him to me.
32:56
I said, oh, I should have recorded him.
32:58
I can tell because they're a little below
33:00
your level.
33:01
They won't be the same.
33:04
I noticed right away.
33:05
Oh, you didn't make that clip.
33:06
Someone else did.
33:07
All right, here we go.
33:08
Yeah, you can tell from the waveform.
33:10
Sure.
33:10
Yeah.
33:12
ABC News is going to have to cut
33:13
ties with the view.
33:16
And you saw that today or yesterday when
33:19
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
33:23
in the middle of a segment.
33:26
The lawyers got in or get whoopie Goldberg's
33:30
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
33:32
on a teleprompter.
33:34
She reads it.
33:35
All right.
33:36
She reads.
33:37
So now this is actually quite funny because
33:40
Hoskins is off the deep end anyway.
33:43
Yeah.
33:43
Yeah.
33:44
And so she is.
33:47
She she goes off and she basically slanders
33:50
on the on the air gates.
33:54
Is this the first clip?
33:56
The view.
33:57
Yeah, clip one.
33:58
OK.
33:59
And within the Department of Justice, you have
34:02
the sex crimes unit, which is what I
34:04
was a part of child sex crimes and
34:06
child trafficking.
34:07
How could you nominate someone with allegations of
34:11
child trafficking across or trafficking across state lines
34:15
and having sex with a 17 year old?
34:18
My understanding further on in the interview, they
34:20
discussed the fact that once he finds out
34:22
that she's 17, he stops having sex with
34:25
her.
34:25
Well, statutory sex doesn't require you to know
34:28
what age the person is.
34:30
It only requires the age.
34:32
Oh, man, she's just basing this on hearsay,
34:36
no?
34:37
Yeah.
34:37
Hearsay.
34:38
And the other thing is, you first of
34:40
all, you have to kind of visualize what
34:42
what is he having sex in a in
34:44
a room full of people?
34:45
I don't know.
34:46
Hey, she's always she's only 17, Matt.
34:49
You better get off her.
34:51
Oh, OK.
34:52
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
34:55
But so within five minutes.
34:58
Oh, this is the same show.
35:01
Yeah, this is within five minutes, five minutes
35:02
after she said this.
35:04
Wow.
35:05
Somebody who obviously put a bug in Rosie's
35:08
ear and they put it on the property.
35:09
Not Rosie, whoopee, whoopee, not Rosie, whoopee.
35:13
Oh, that's funny.
35:14
I said Rosie.
35:14
Yeah.
35:15
Whoopee whoopee hears that.
35:16
Oh, you better take care of this.
35:19
And so Sonny Hoskins reads from a prompter.
35:23
What's the next clip?
35:24
She reads.
35:25
But it's the look on her face.
35:27
She is so steamed up that she has
35:30
to do this because it's humiliating.
35:32
It's it's basically humiliation that she's doing this.
35:36
But here she goes.
35:37
Sonny, you have a legal.
35:39
I do have a legal.
35:40
No, thank you, whoopee.
35:43
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations calling
35:46
the claims, quote, invented.
35:49
And saying in a statement to ABC News
35:51
that this false smear following a three year
35:53
criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism
35:57
that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges
36:01
being brought.
36:02
We'll be right back.
36:04
Now, do you think that Gaetz can still
36:06
go after her because of the of the
36:08
read?
36:09
Like your read was not serious.
36:11
You still slandered me.
36:12
I mean, would that be possible?
36:14
I think it's possible.
36:15
I don't think it's going to happen, but
36:16
it's possible because then more than one or
36:18
two commentators have said this.
36:21
Oh, really?
36:22
You just said you're number three saying that,
36:25
hey, this is not a sincere apology by
36:27
any means, because she was just her jaw
36:31
clenched as she read this.
36:32
And she was not a happy camper.
36:34
Do you want to go back to O
36:35
'Reilly or are we good?
36:36
Do we need to go back to O
36:37
'Reilly?
36:39
No.
36:39
Yeah.
36:40
Go back to O'Reilly because it does
36:41
get pretty good.
36:42
But it's hateful.
36:43
Oh, hold on.
36:44
They hate Trump.
36:45
And you saw that today or yesterday when
36:49
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
36:53
in the middle of a segment.
36:56
The lawyers got in her get whoopie Goldberg's
36:59
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
37:02
on a teleprompter.
37:04
She reads it.
37:05
So it is over for these far left
37:10
networks.
37:11
Done.
37:12
Never coming back.
37:13
Dracula's stake in the heart.
37:15
Who benefits?
37:16
News Nation may.
37:18
But CNN, which is on the ropes, too,
37:22
will probably get some MSNBC viewers.
37:28
There you go.
37:29
What do you think of that?
37:31
Well, I'm certainly not going to accuse him
37:33
of not making sense.
37:35
You know, I disagree.
37:36
It's the problem is the cord cutting and
37:39
the expenses.
37:40
Is that so?
37:40
No, I'm I.
37:41
Yes.
37:42
In fact, when you listen to.
37:44
Well, here's this one more clip in the
37:45
series.
37:46
This is NBC spinoffs is an NPR version
37:49
of the event.
37:51
Yeah, got it.
37:52
Well, company Comcast says it will spin off
37:54
many of its networks that were once at
37:56
the center of the entertainment giants offerings comes
37:59
as people are increasingly trading their cable TV
38:01
subscriptions for streaming services like Netflix and Hulu.
38:05
Comcast will spin off USA, Oxygen, E, sci
38:07
fi and golf channels, as well as CNBC
38:09
and MSNBC.
38:12
Yeah, the CNBC thing is rough for them.
38:15
I like CNBC.
38:17
That's kind of rough.
38:19
They're getting a CNBC.
38:21
Well, it's very expensive.
38:22
They're going to take this very expensive.
38:23
And why do they keep Bravo and not
38:24
CNBC?
38:25
Because Bravo is a cable channel.
38:26
It's not over.
38:27
The Bravo is a super moneymaker.
38:30
I guess so.
38:31
Oh, yeah.
38:32
The franchise that they have with Real Housewives
38:35
and all that stuff, it's it's massive.
38:39
Now, that's really real.
38:41
That's that's just huge.
38:43
But the logic, I'm just saying the logic
38:46
is not a cord cutting.
38:48
I mean, Bravo does rely on cable.
38:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:52
But but they got to keep something.
38:55
And CNBC, that's got to be so expensive.
38:58
That's, you know, whenever you're doing live stuff,
39:00
that's expensive right there.
39:02
It's just expensive.
39:03
So the salaries need to come down.
39:06
We need new talent.
39:08
If you and I were doing it, you
39:09
know, and I think that one of the
39:12
top bosses of NBC is going to run
39:16
the spin spin co.
39:18
Or maybe yes, the guy who actually had
39:21
the he had MSNBC under his wing already.
39:26
OK, and they just get them moving him
39:28
out with the with the rest of it
39:30
now.
39:31
But this problem is not just television, the
39:34
Washington Post.
39:36
And this was was this actually an article
39:39
in The Post?
39:40
This was an article.
39:42
No, New York, New York, The New York
39:45
Magazine.
39:48
So there was a meeting.
39:49
There was a meeting at The Washington Post.
39:52
Even before 250,000 digital readers unsubscribed, I'm
39:57
unsubscribing Bezos from The Washington Post in protest
40:01
in protest.
40:01
The paper was on track to lose as
40:04
at least as much money as it lost
40:07
last year.
40:08
Seventy seven million.
40:11
A deputy manager editor shared the figure in
40:13
a recent meeting with reporters and editors per
40:16
multiple sources.
40:17
The editor did not say what the added
40:19
impact of the non endorsement exodus would be.
40:21
So it's going to be even more mind
40:24
blowing.
40:24
One staffer put it.
40:26
The level of anger is through the roof
40:27
and fear is also through the roof.
40:29
There's huge concern that Bezos is going to
40:32
pull the plug.
40:33
Yeah, well, he's not going to pull the
40:36
plug on the on the national newspaper.
40:38
Elon, you should buy Washington Post.
40:41
Elon, buy buy MSNBC and The Washington Post.
40:45
Elon, go ahead, Elon.
40:47
Please.
40:49
MSNBC staffers in a panic, in a panic.
40:55
So it's the changing landscape.
40:57
We knew the Internet would do this eventually.
40:59
We just had to wait a quarter of
41:01
a century.
41:02
But here it is.
41:04
Here it is.
41:05
It did take longer than you think.
41:06
Oh, goodness.
41:07
We were we were popping the champagne corks
41:10
in ninety nine like, oh, it's going to
41:12
be the end of it.
41:13
Well, it'll be over.
41:16
What were we thinking?
41:18
What were we thinking?
41:20
All right.
41:20
So I think we're done with with with
41:23
the M5M.
41:25
The next thing that we need to move
41:27
on to, because there's just such fear and
41:31
uncertainty and oh, yes, doubt that has crept
41:34
in.
41:34
And are we in World War three?
41:36
And what are we doing?
41:37
And Biden's going out with a bang.
41:40
And here is a short introductory clip.
41:43
In a big reversal, President Biden will now
41:46
let Ukraine use long range missiles supplied by
41:49
the U.S. to hit inside Russia.
41:51
Until now, the president had resisted this position,
41:54
concerned it could escalate Russia's war in Ukraine
41:56
into something even larger.
41:57
Kelly O'Donnell is traveling with the president in
41:59
Brazil.
42:00
And Kelly, this move coming as President Biden
42:02
only has a couple of months left in
42:04
office seems meant to send a message.
42:06
Exactly right, Hallie.
42:07
Good evening.
42:07
This is a notable shift in policy.
42:10
Two U.S. officials tell NBC News the
42:12
Biden administration is giving Ukraine the green light
42:15
to use American made long range weapons for
42:17
limited strikes inside Russia.
42:19
Until now, President Biden had restricted the use
42:22
of American made weapons to the Ukrainian battlefield
42:25
to prevent a wider war.
42:27
But the president is also alarmed by North
42:29
Korea sending thousands of its own soldiers to
42:32
help Russia.
42:33
And given the sensitivity of this change and
42:35
military operations, the White House and the Pentagon
42:38
are not commenting publicly on this.
42:40
So there's a couple of things that bothered
42:42
me right away.
42:43
First of all, Biden's roaming around there in
42:47
South America.
42:47
And by the way, it's not Biden.
42:50
It's daddy long legs.
42:51
He's jumping around.
42:53
He's got the aviators on.
42:54
Won't talk to the press.
42:55
Won't won't say anything.
42:57
There's why I liked it when he walked
42:58
into the jungle.
43:04
Did you hear the news?
43:07
The media was so desperate to get a
43:10
quote.
43:10
They're yelling at him.
43:11
Yeah.
43:11
Here, listen to this.
43:27
Yeah, you know, it just doesn't come through.
43:31
I had that clip and it was just
43:32
I said it's not you can't hear it.
43:34
I'm sure the audience.
43:35
Well, I did it.
43:36
I did it.
43:37
It is funny because she's screaming her head
43:40
off and he won't even acknowledge her existence.
43:43
He's just because you're right.
43:44
It's daddy long legs.
43:45
Is that other guy?
43:47
So there's a number of issues.
43:49
One, the story is based as far as
43:52
I can tell on reporting from Associated Press.
43:56
And so I was able to trace it
43:58
back to that.
44:00
And here's what they report.
44:02
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use
44:05
U.S. supplied missiles to strike deeper inside
44:07
Russia.
44:08
They're not saying attack comes here.
44:10
Easing limitations on the longer range weapons as
44:13
Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to
44:16
reinforce its war, according to a U.S.
44:19
official and three other people familiar with the
44:22
matter.
44:22
So there is zero publication of what's going
44:27
on here.
44:28
You know, there's nothing in the register.
44:31
There's nothing on WhiteHouse.gov. We're just accepting
44:34
that the media has told us this is
44:36
taking place.
44:37
And we have zero evidence of we got
44:40
all kinds of videos of of shooting, shooting
44:43
cannons and tanks.
44:46
And but we have no North Korea, the
44:48
North Korean dudes running around 10,000 of
44:50
them, apparently 10,000 of them.
44:53
I don't see that.
44:55
There's some good, funny reports about the North
44:57
Koreans shooting at the Russians, though.
44:59
It's very humorous.
45:00
Well, and then there's confusion because Ukraine has
45:05
other long range missiles which aren't from the
45:08
U.S. Tonight, a new escalation video circulating
45:15
online appears to show massive explosions rocking Russia's
45:18
Kursk region.
45:20
The Wall Street Journal reporting Ukraine launching at
45:23
least 10 British made storm shadow cruise missiles.
45:26
Ukraine not commenting.
45:29
Ukraine fighting to hold on to a small
45:31
patch of Russian territory it holds in Kursk
45:33
to use as leverage.
45:34
But Russian forces, assisted by thousands of North
45:37
Korean soldiers, are slowly pushing them back.
45:40
The U.S. in another policy reversal now
45:42
allowing Ukraine to use anti-personnel landmines to
45:45
try to slow the Russians down.
45:48
And amid growing fears about Russian retaliation, the
45:52
U.S. embassy in Kyiv closing down for
45:54
much of the day.
45:55
We were given exclusive access to the secret
45:57
command center of the elite Ukrainian heartier brigade
46:01
in Kharkiv.
46:02
Here, drone operators launch attacks on Russian troops.
46:05
For Ukrainians, we do not have a choice.
46:08
We have to fight because we are fighting
46:09
for our land and for our way of
46:11
life, for our freedom.
46:13
But this morning, the U.S. embassy in
46:14
Kyiv shutting down warning of a potential significant
46:17
air attack by Russia.
46:19
Staff being told to shelter in place and
46:21
other embassies also closing as these tensions rise
46:24
between the U.S. and Ukraine and Russia.
46:26
So as you dig into this U.K.
46:29
missiles, again, it's the media saying this.
46:33
Neither the U.K. nor the Ukrainian government
46:35
have confirmed it, but British media say they
46:38
have numerous sources.
46:39
And also Russian military bloggers are saying that
46:42
it was storm shadow missiles that were used.
46:45
It's on a town called Maryino in Kursk
46:48
region in Russia, only about 40 kilometers, actually,
46:51
from the Ukrainian border.
46:53
There's one video doing the rounds on social
46:55
media made by somebody in that town.
46:58
You can't see the missiles, but you hear
46:59
them flying in and you hear him becoming
47:02
increasingly agitated as one after another.
47:04
No video.
47:19
Yeah.
47:21
And then Moscow says, oh, no, we shot
47:23
down five of the six.
47:25
I won't play the clip because it gets
47:26
a little tedious.
47:27
So, oh, these are the great attack.
47:29
They shot down five of the six.
47:30
Luckily, on the soon to be spun off
47:34
spinco CNBC, there was a rare moment of
47:38
spin down and information that was actually useful
47:42
from a guy from the Brookings Institute.
47:45
For more insights on this move, we want
47:47
to bring in Michael O'Hanlon.
47:48
He's senior fellow and director of research for
47:50
foreign policy at the Brookings Institution.
47:53
And Mike, you were the first person I
47:54
thought of when I heard this report.
47:56
What does this mean?
47:57
It sounds like Biden is trying to help
48:01
Zelensky maybe get the best possible positioning he
48:05
can before the Trump administration comes in and
48:08
potentially forces a deal with Russia.
48:10
Hi, Becky.
48:11
Well, that's part of it.
48:12
But I also think it's just sort of
48:14
the most natural, relatively small, somewhat symbolic gesture
48:18
that can be made in response to the
48:20
North Korean involvement.
48:22
Because, as you know, the permission to use
48:24
these weapons is limited to that very small
48:27
part of Russia, where the North Koreans are
48:30
now fighting to try to drive the Ukrainians
48:32
out.
48:33
And moreover, we've known this kind of a
48:36
decision might be coming for a long time.
48:38
President Biden's made decisions like this before.
48:41
So I doubt very much that Russia and
48:44
North Korea allow themselves to have big troop
48:47
concentrations or vulnerable headquarters within range of these
48:50
missiles.
48:51
And moreover, it seems like we've told the
48:53
world about the decision before we gave the
48:56
Ukrainians permission.
48:57
So any element of surprise has probably been
48:59
lost.
49:00
So I think it has to be seen
49:03
more in the context of the diplomacy of
49:06
the war and trying to make sure the
49:08
North Koreans don't come in in larger numbers
49:11
rather than any effort to make a decisive
49:14
military difference on the battlefield.
49:17
Exactly.
49:18
It's not that big a deal.
49:20
Everybody's got their hair on fire.
49:22
Oh, Putin said, oh, I'm going to escalate
49:25
my rules.
49:26
Well, yeah, of course he's going to say
49:28
that.
49:28
It's tit for tat.
49:29
This is typical, typical war gaming.
49:33
And yes, everybody knew that the attack was
49:36
coming.
49:36
I read from the Supplemental Appropriations Act 2024,
49:41
Section 505, while you're picking up the phone.
49:44
Transfer of long-range attack is required as
49:47
soon as practicable after the date of enactment
49:51
of this act.
49:51
The president shall transfer long-range army tactical
49:54
missile systems, ATACMS, to the government of Ukraine
49:57
to assist the government of Ukraine in defending
49:59
itself and achieving victory against the Russian Federation.
50:03
If the president determines that executing the transfer
50:06
of long-range army tactical missile systems to
50:08
the government of Ukraine pursuant to Subsection A
50:10
would be detrimental to the national security interests
50:13
of the United States, the president may withhold
50:15
such transfer, which he, of course, has done
50:17
so far.
50:18
And then he has to issue a report
50:20
to the Committees on Appropriations and Foreign Relations
50:23
of the Senate and of the House.
50:25
So none of that happened.
50:27
What did happen, what did happen is there
50:32
was a memorandum on the 15th, memorandum on
50:37
the delegation of authorities under Section 507D and
50:41
508A.
50:42
Because I went looking, hey, wait a minute.
50:44
Don't tell me he let Anthony Blinken take
50:47
care of these ATACMS. No.
50:50
D, so 507D is cancellation of indebtedness.
50:55
Yes, this is exactly right.
50:58
This was the cover-up for what you're
51:00
just about to read, which I think is
51:01
just abhorrent.
51:03
So the president can, may not before November
51:07
15th, 2024, so this came out on the
51:10
15th, take any action related to the indebtedness
51:13
of the government of Ukraine that cancels any
51:16
indebtedness incurred by Ukraine pursuant to this section.
51:20
So that has been transferred to the Secretary
51:23
of State.
51:24
And so now Blinken can, if he hasn't
51:27
already, cancel Ukraine's debt to us.
51:30
Thanks a lot.
51:31
According to this morning's report, $4.7 billion
51:35
of loan forgiveness was released.
51:39
Right off the top.
51:41
I have no idea what the total is
51:43
going to be, but already the so-called
51:45
loan is bullcrap.
51:47
I mean, we have been taken for a
51:49
ride.
51:50
Not only is it a cover-up for
51:52
this, but it's also a cover-up for
51:55
that.
51:56
For the seventh consecutive time, the Department of
51:58
Defense could not fully account for how it
52:01
spends taxpayer dollars.
52:03
In the latest audit, the Pentagon could not
52:05
track billions of dollars.
52:07
The Defense Department's budget.
52:09
Over $800 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
52:11
For the 2024 fiscal year is $842 billion,
52:16
just over 12% of the total federal
52:18
budget.
52:19
Comptroller Mike McCord stating in a release that
52:22
despite the audit revealing areas for improvement, the
52:26
department has, quote, turned a corner and, quote,
52:29
momentum is on our side.
52:31
Now, I got this clip because, and this
52:34
was from News Nation, they did some very
52:37
interesting inserts here, which we'll discuss after the
52:41
clip plays out.
52:42
The Pentagon's reliance on private contractors, which account
52:45
for more than $400 billion annually, over half
52:48
the defense budget, according to USAspending.gov. From
52:52
jet fighters to missile systems, companies like Lockheed
52:56
Martin, Boeing and Raytheon secure multi-billion dollar
52:59
contracts each year.
53:00
These contracts have drawn scrutiny for cost overruns,
53:04
delays and insufficient oversight.
53:06
We're not going to be cutting ribbons, we're
53:07
going to be cutting costs.
53:08
President-elect Donald Trump vowing to reduce wasteful
53:12
federal spending with the newly created Department of
53:14
Government Efficiency, or DOGE, tapping billionaires Vivek Ramaswamy
53:19
and Elon Musk to lead the charge.
53:22
Our defense budget is pretty gigantic, it's a
53:24
trillion dollars, but the interest that we owe
53:28
on the debt is now higher than the
53:30
defense budget, over a trillion dollars and growing.
53:33
The failed audit revealing the Department of Defense
53:35
continues to face difficulties in tracking and reporting
53:38
property, equipment and inventory, preventing an accurate report
53:43
of a clear money trail.
53:45
This is about restoring self-governance and accountability
53:48
in America.
53:49
Most of the people making these decisions, from
53:52
healthcare to the Department of Defense, are failing
53:54
on effectiveness because they have no accountability.
53:57
Though DOGE is not an official agency and
53:59
Congress controls budget for federal agencies, the hope
54:03
of the president-elect is that the initiative,
54:05
which ends in 2026, can help the Pentagon
54:08
pass its first audit by 2028.
54:11
So I'm pretty sure all this noise was
54:14
definitely partially used or intended to cover up
54:18
this failed audit seventh time in a row.
54:20
And I love that News Nation, you know,
54:22
chopped in the DOGE boys saying, billionaire Vivek
54:26
Ramaswamy, I didn't know he was a billionaire,
54:28
but the DOGE boys, how much you want
54:30
to bet that they're not going to start
54:32
with the Department of Defense?
54:33
I have a very hard time seeing Elon
54:36
Musk saying, yeah, no, there's wasteful spending on
54:39
those rockets and that stuff.
54:40
You can't have that.
54:42
No, we'll see if they go after the
54:44
Department of Defense.
54:45
But these types of distractions for massive audit
54:50
failures within the Department of Defense go back
54:52
to 2001.
54:55
Yeah, that would have been perfect.
54:57
We are, as they say, tangled in our
55:00
anchor chain.
55:02
Our financial systems are decades old.
55:05
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2
55:07
.3 trillion in transactions.
55:11
We cannot share information from floor to floor
55:14
in this building because it's stored on dozens
55:17
of different technological systems that are inaccessible or
55:20
incompatible.
55:22
We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base
55:24
infrastructure than we need to support our forces
55:28
and an annual waste to taxpayers of some
55:31
$3 to $4 billion.
55:33
That was Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th, 2001.
55:38
You know, we didn't talk about defense issues
55:40
for a long time after that.
55:42
In addition, this is NATO freaking out about
55:46
Trump, freaking out about they.
55:48
They are freaked out.
55:50
We need to have more noise going on
55:52
in Russia with Russia and Ukraine, more stuff
55:55
to talk about.
55:56
We need to get as much money out
55:57
as we can.
55:58
And you know what?
56:00
Why don't we do an exercise while we're
56:01
at it?
56:02
This forest in Lapland is within Russian missile
56:05
range.
56:08
It's the first NATO military exercise since the
56:11
re-election of Donald Trump.
56:16
And as French artillery fires alongside U.S.
56:20
Army rocket launchers, the threat of American disengagement
56:25
is on everyone's minds.
56:27
This French colonel who is in charge here
56:29
doesn't want to consider this scenario.
56:32
NATO is important and so is France's role
56:35
in this military power.
56:37
NATO is vital for us and our partners.
56:41
Vital, especially as Russian President Vladimir Putin once
56:44
again raises the threat of a nuclear attack.
56:47
And for his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, a
56:50
U.S. withdrawal would mean a defeat for
56:52
Ukraine.
56:53
I can't predict the future.
56:55
I'll say the U.S. has been a
56:56
founding member of NATO for 75 years.
57:00
And I only see that continuing.
57:02
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022,
57:05
the United States have deployed in Europe some
57:08
90,000 soldiers from their naval and air
57:10
forces.
57:11
And as NATO allies await Donald Trump's first
57:14
decisions, war simulations remain on the agenda.
57:18
This whole report was set up to say
57:20
we need NATO.
57:21
NATO is important.
57:22
Finland, brand new NATO member.
57:24
They're in Finland doing these exercises within range
57:29
of these weapons, within Russian range of these
57:32
weapons.
57:33
The people speaking, they've got the good looking
57:35
uniforms on.
57:36
You know, yeah, it's camo, but it's freshly
57:38
pressed.
57:39
And they're not running through some mud doing
57:42
exercises.
57:43
They're due to do PR, promotion.
57:45
Oh, and while we're out at Finland, oh,
57:47
you should be very worried.
57:49
You really need NATO too.
57:50
This morning, questions about potential sabotage.
57:53
After two underwater Internet cables connecting parts of
57:56
Europe to the NATO countries of Finland and
57:58
Sweden were severed under the Baltic Sea, a
58:01
cargo ship in the area owned by a
58:03
Chinese company has raised suspicion.
58:05
Local authorities now tracking the ship that said
58:07
sail from Russia.
58:09
Unconfirmed reports claim the captain is Russian.
58:12
European officials not directly blaming Russia for the
58:14
disconnected cables, but Germany and Finland saying our
58:17
European security is not only under threat from
58:20
Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, but also
58:22
from hybrid warfare by malicious actors.
58:25
Hybrid warfare is a term that could include
58:27
unconventional tactics like cyber attacks.
58:30
Speaking generally, we are incredibly concerned about hybrid
58:34
warfare conducted by Russia, both in Europe and
58:37
around the world.
58:38
And it's something that we have been in
58:39
close coordination with our European allies.
58:43
It comes as Ukraine launches British made cruise
58:45
missiles into Russia for the first time.
58:47
After President Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American
58:51
long range missiles into Russian territory.
58:53
So we don't even know if attackers were
58:55
fired.
58:56
It's still these British shadow missiles.
58:58
And we're freaking out the new NATO members.
59:00
Oh, oh, the captain was Russian.
59:03
Hey, probably.
59:04
And I talked to Sir von der Helm.
59:06
I said, how's your Internet?
59:08
No problem with the Internet.
59:09
These were Internet cables.
59:11
There's no issue.
59:12
So I don't know exactly what's going on.
59:15
But we have to sigh up the Finnish
59:18
and Swedish people one more time.
59:20
How to prepare for the possibility of war?
59:23
That's the question addressed in this pamphlet sent
59:26
out to more than 5 million Swedes.
59:28
The booklet was written by the Swedish Civil
59:30
Contingencies Agency and provides practical tips for dealing
59:34
with crises, such as war, natural disasters or
59:37
cyber attacks.
59:38
We actually have to prepare for the worst
59:41
case scenario, a war scenario, not that we
59:46
necessarily think that there will be war, but
59:48
we really need to have that preparedness and
59:51
need to include the population in that preparedness.
59:54
The 32-page brochure gives logistical advice from
59:58
stocking up on food and water and growing
1:00:00
your own vegetables to finding reliable sources of
1:00:02
information and locating bomb shelters.
1:00:05
It also provides mental health advice on how
1:00:08
to deal with anxiety caused by the possibility
1:00:10
of war.
1:00:11
With simple ideas like talking about concerns to
1:00:13
friends and family, helping others to feel useful,
1:00:16
exercising or limiting the barrage of negative news
1:00:19
about the world.
1:00:21
The initiative has sparked intense debate in a
1:00:23
society unaccustomed to the reality of war.
1:00:26
But the Swedes are not the only ones
1:00:27
taking precautions.
1:00:29
Their Finnish neighbours, who share a 1,340
1:00:32
-kilometre-long border with Russia, have also set
1:00:34
up a website offering similar advice.
1:00:37
In 2022, after the Russian invasion began, the
1:00:40
two countries asked to join NATO, thus abandoning
1:00:43
several decades of military non-alignment.
1:00:46
So there it is, in my nutshell.
1:00:48
This is a bunch of bullcrap.
1:00:50
And don't be worried about World War III
1:00:52
starting and Biden going out with a bang.
1:00:55
This is all just typical PR to cover
1:00:58
up the audit, to cover up the debt
1:01:01
forgiveness, and to keep NATO looking very important.
1:01:05
And oh, boy, we can't.
1:01:07
No, Trump, you can't pull us out of
1:01:09
NATO.
1:01:09
That would be horrible.
1:01:10
This is public relations slash propaganda.
1:01:17
I can't argue.
1:01:18
No, it's the basic thesis.
1:01:20
You can't argue.
1:01:21
It's totally prepare for war.
1:01:25
Oh, my, my, my.
1:01:27
Well, we can take a look at the
1:01:28
three by three, which is about Ukraine shooting
1:01:31
these missiles.
1:01:32
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
1:01:33
I feel woefully unprepared.
1:01:35
I didn't even realise you had a three
1:01:38
by three.
1:01:38
Now it's time for three by three.
1:01:41
Experiment by J.C.D. Comparing stories from
1:01:45
ABC, CBS and NBC.
1:01:49
The never-ending three by three.
1:01:50
All right, Steve Jones on the ball once
1:01:52
again.
1:01:53
It's good to have him back with a
1:01:54
three by three.
1:01:55
Let's find out what's going on in US
1:01:56
propaganda of this war, this horrible turn of
1:02:00
events.
1:02:01
Start with ABC.
1:02:02
Tonight, Ukraine firing the first American-made long
1:02:06
-range missiles into Russia.
1:02:09
Targeting an ammunition store in the Bryansk border
1:02:12
region, seen in video circulating online.
1:02:15
A US official telling ABC News eight missiles
1:02:17
known as Atakoms were fired and two intercepted.
1:02:21
The Kremlin appearing to threaten possible use of
1:02:23
nuclear weapons in response.
1:02:25
But the Pentagon saying there are no signs
1:02:27
it's preparing to do so.
1:02:29
Russia already attacking Ukraine, though, day and night.
1:02:32
We joined drone hunters trying to intercept attacks.
1:02:35
Suddenly, an incoming drone.
1:02:37
You can hear it in the sky.
1:02:40
The team scours the skies and opens fire.
1:02:45
These drone hunters are out every night across
1:02:48
the country as Russia sends more and more
1:02:51
drone across the border into Ukrainian cities.
1:02:56
The drone gets away as the team works
1:02:58
through the night, defending family, country and freedom.
1:03:03
David, today marks 1,000 days of full
1:03:06
-scale war in Ukraine.
1:03:07
And despite all these talks about peace plans,
1:03:10
there's no clear end in sight.
1:03:12
They haven't.
1:03:13
So, wow, they have different numbers.
1:03:16
They've got eight drone, eight Atakoms.
1:03:19
Two were shot.
1:03:20
How?
1:03:20
I thought these Atakoms were like the big
1:03:22
deal.
1:03:23
They suck.
1:03:25
They're not doing anything.
1:03:28
One of them broke up in the sky
1:03:29
and fell down and hit someone.
1:03:31
But that seems to be happening a lot
1:03:33
with these missiles.
1:03:35
Okay, well, let's go to...
1:03:36
These are all the same report, but let's
1:03:38
go to CBS's version of the same report.
1:03:43
I love the opening.
1:03:45
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
1:03:49
-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:03:51
Which U.S. officials?
1:03:53
Who?
1:03:53
Give me a name.
1:03:54
If we're at war, if we are at
1:03:57
war...
1:03:57
By the way, if it's a U.S.
1:03:58
official, they're not anonymous.
1:04:02
Well, unless they're lying about it.
1:04:04
Or, you know, the U.S. officials spoke
1:04:06
on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized
1:04:09
to talk about it.
1:04:10
This is bullcrap.
1:04:12
If we're at...
1:04:13
We now know because Tucker Carlson and Glenn
1:04:17
Greenwald did a whole show about it.
1:04:20
We're at war now because it takes Americans
1:04:22
to operate these and we have to have
1:04:24
our U.S. satellite tracking technology.
1:04:27
But we're at war.
1:04:28
You didn't get the clip either.
1:04:30
No, I couldn't watch it.
1:04:31
I just saw that.
1:04:32
I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch
1:04:34
this.
1:04:34
I was tempted to get the part that
1:04:35
you just said.
1:04:37
You summarized faster than Greenwald ever could.
1:04:41
It's like, oh, please.
1:04:44
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
1:04:48
-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:04:50
The target was a military facility in...
1:04:52
And let's just...
1:04:53
Let's just...
1:04:53
Sorry to interrupt, but let's just determine what
1:04:55
Russia is, okay?
1:04:57
This is a border region that the Ukrainians...
1:05:01
That's that 1,000 square meters or whatever
1:05:04
that they went into.
1:05:05
It's that area.
1:05:07
It's not...
1:05:07
When they say into Russia, it's not Moscow.
1:05:12
You know, it's where the actual skirmish is
1:05:15
taking place.
1:05:17
And you notice that they say Kursk region,
1:05:19
not the Kursk region.
1:05:21
So be like, well, these missiles were shot
1:05:23
in Kursk region.
1:05:24
It's the...
1:05:24
I want to say the Kursk region.
1:05:27
Anyway, I'm not at CBS, so...
1:05:29
American-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:05:32
The target was a military facility in the
1:05:34
Bryansk region of southern Russia, according to the
1:05:37
Russian Defense Ministry.
1:05:39
U.S. officials say the Russians may have
1:05:42
shot down two of the missiles, powerful weapons
1:05:45
with a maximum range of close to 200
1:05:48
miles.
1:05:49
First of all, it's going to help our
1:05:50
troops right now at the front lines.
1:05:52
Aleksandra Ustinova is a member of Ukraine's parliament
1:05:56
who told us she lobbied the U.S.
1:05:58
government to allow Ukraine to use the Atakoms
1:06:01
deep inside Russia.
1:06:03
The U.S. only agreed to it two
1:06:05
days ago, worried it could escalate the conflict.
1:06:09
Are you angry that the U.S. didn't
1:06:11
give Ukraine permission earlier to use the Atakoms
1:06:14
deep inside Russia?
1:06:17
I'm really disappointed that every decision that the
1:06:20
U.S. government is making comes about six
1:06:24
months later than it was needed.
1:06:26
Russia accuses the U.S. of adding fuel
1:06:29
to the fire, and today Vladimir Putin approved
1:06:32
a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine, lowering the
1:06:36
threshold for a nuclear strike.
1:06:39
A U.S. official called that irresponsible rhetoric.
1:06:43
President Biden allowed the broader use of Atakoms
1:06:46
after more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers
1:06:49
were deployed to Russia, bolstering Moscow's forces.
1:06:53
Today, Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky, warned that number
1:06:58
could grow to 100,000.
1:07:06
Today marks 1,000 days since Vladimir Putin
1:07:10
launched his invasion.
1:07:11
We were here when it began, Nora, and
1:07:13
we've witnessed Ukrainians lose their homes, their limbs,
1:07:16
and their lives in a war they never
1:07:19
wanted.
1:07:21
I just want to add my own sound
1:07:23
effects from time to time.
1:07:27
All right, so that's pretty much the same
1:07:30
report.
1:07:30
Tell me that NBC starts with a missile
1:07:32
launch.
1:07:33
Tell me.
1:07:34
Yeah, I think they're given a sound effect.
1:07:38
Nat pops, baby.
1:07:39
Yeah, yeah, they had a good one.
1:07:45
Tonight, anxious hours after Ukraine fired American-made
1:07:49
long-range missiles called Atakoms at a nuclear
1:07:53
-armed Russia for the first time, according to
1:07:55
two U.S. officials.
1:07:57
It comes just days after the White House
1:07:59
approved their use outside Ukraine's borders.
1:08:02
Tonight, President Putin has lowered the bar for
1:08:05
Russia's use of nuclear weapons.
1:08:07
Under a new nuclear doctrine, Russia could deploy
1:08:11
its arsenal and be attacked by a non
1:08:13
-nuclear country allied with a nuclear state, a
1:08:16
message unmistakably directed at Ukraine and the U
1:08:20
.S. I'm Kelly O'Donnell in Rio de Janeiro
1:08:23
at the G20 Summit, where dozens of international
1:08:26
leaders have been gathered, including President Biden and
1:08:29
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who today called
1:08:32
the Ukrainian missile attack an escalation.
1:08:35
And he talked about Putin making changes to
1:08:37
how Russia could use its nuclear arsenal.
1:08:41
We are strongly in favor of doing everything
1:08:45
not to allow a nuclear war to happen.
1:08:48
As for the Atakoms, Ukraine says they will
1:08:51
help resist a Russian offensive supported by North
1:08:54
Korean troops just months before President-elect Trump
1:08:57
takes office and is expected to demand a
1:09:01
deal.
1:09:02
Ukraine today marking 1,000 days of war
1:09:05
with Russia, with talks on the horizon, but
1:09:08
no sign of compromise.
1:09:11
President Putin has made many unnerving nuclear threats.
1:09:14
Tonight, one European leader calling it rhetoric.
1:09:18
Rhetoric.
1:09:19
Oh, someone agrees.
1:09:20
Why do we have to have a British
1:09:21
guy?
1:09:22
Because this is an intelligence op.
1:09:24
My guys were British, too.
1:09:26
They're all British.
1:09:28
This thing is an op.
1:09:31
And it's been hard here, man.
1:09:34
It's been hard to calm people down because
1:09:35
they all think nuclear war is coming.
1:09:38
Where, you know, Lavrov said, He's sounding more
1:09:43
like Kissinger as he gets older.
1:09:45
He is, he is, he is.
1:09:47
This is posturing.
1:09:49
And, you know, so what?
1:09:51
So what's the big deal with North Korean
1:09:55
soldiers?
1:09:55
Who cares?
1:09:56
Do you know how many American soldiers were
1:09:58
in Ukraine?
1:09:59
Most of them are dead.
1:10:01
KIA, because I get the reports every single
1:10:04
day.
1:10:05
They all went over there and fighting for
1:10:07
freedom as mercenaries, of course.
1:10:11
There's all kinds of Americans, British, Dutch.
1:10:14
They're all over the place.
1:10:16
So what's the big deal?
1:10:18
So they got North Koreans.
1:10:19
Oh, 10,000.
1:10:20
Sure.
1:10:21
Yes, specifically.
1:10:21
The question you're asking is specifically what the
1:10:25
Russians have known to use.
1:10:26
Africans and mercenaries and all kinds.
1:10:29
So why now is North Koreans a big
1:10:34
deal when everything else seemed to be OK?
1:10:37
It's just a, it's a scare tactic.
1:10:41
It's an op of some sort.
1:10:42
Yeah, the same as this thing.
1:10:45
Just keep that noise in there all the
1:10:47
time.
1:10:47
The term that you see floating around is
1:10:50
they're trying to magaproof.
1:10:52
It's called magaproof.
1:10:53
Oh, yes.
1:10:54
Magaproof.
1:10:54
There you go.
1:10:55
Because when Trump gets in, he's going to
1:10:57
want to end this war.
1:10:58
But you want to magaproof it.
1:10:59
That means he won't be able to.
1:11:01
So they're trying to screw him over.
1:11:03
And the only way you can do that
1:11:04
is with an op.
1:11:05
But yeah.
1:11:07
Well, that brings us to Netanyahu.
1:11:09
Well, can I just stick with NATO for
1:11:11
one more second?
1:11:11
Oh, we're still there?
1:11:12
Yeah.
1:11:13
There's one more NATO thing I wanted to
1:11:14
get out of the way because this has
1:11:15
been bugging me for a couple of weeks.
1:11:18
So there's this.
1:11:21
Well, actually, Neil Oliver, who I like from
1:11:25
GB News in the UK, he summed it
1:11:29
up quite nicely.
1:11:30
This has been going around.
1:11:31
And I have some comments on this story.
1:11:35
Online publication Slay carried this headline recently from
1:11:39
the Dutch part of the lunatic asylum.
1:11:41
Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military
1:11:45
operation.
1:11:46
Ministry of Health obeys NATO.
1:11:49
A top Dutch government official that reads has
1:11:53
admitted that the COVID was a military operation
1:11:57
and revealed her nation was taking orders from
1:12:00
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
1:12:03
Dutch health minister Fleur Agema has revealed that
1:12:07
the military operation was led by NATO and
1:12:10
the Netherlands National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism,
1:12:15
NCTV.
1:12:16
The NCTV is a Dutch government agency that
1:12:20
serves the country's national security.
1:12:23
During a speech in the Dutch parliament, Agema
1:12:25
acknowledged that the government responded to the pandemic
1:12:29
by complying with NATO obligations.
1:12:33
Now, luckily for no agenda nation, I am
1:12:36
fluent in Dutch.
1:12:37
Not just that I speak the language I
1:12:39
grew up with it.
1:12:41
I am completely bilingual.
1:12:43
And I watched this.
1:12:44
I watched the question and answer session, which
1:12:47
was about money, about money for a future
1:12:49
pandemic.
1:12:50
At no point did Dutch health minister Fleur
1:12:53
Agema say that COVID-19 and the Corona
1:12:57
period was a NATO operation.
1:13:00
She did not say that.
1:13:01
She's new.
1:13:02
This is the new parliament that has come
1:13:03
in.
1:13:04
And she said, coming in as a newbie,
1:13:06
I was surprised to hear, she actually says,
1:13:08
I was very surprised to hear that under
1:13:11
the new preparedness doctrine, which comes from, she
1:13:18
said, I think Brussels, that there are new
1:13:21
rules that they want to implement and what
1:13:24
needs to be done under pandemic preparedness in
1:13:28
the event it is a biological attack.
1:13:30
I'm paraphrasing.
1:13:32
But she did not say NATO was controlling
1:13:35
this whole thing.
1:13:36
She just didn't say it.
1:13:38
She did not say it.
1:13:39
And you can look at the subtitles as
1:13:41
long as you want.
1:13:42
But I hear what she's saying.
1:13:44
She said, you know, there's something up that
1:13:46
this and this is all the pandemic treaty
1:13:49
business.
1:13:49
That's what's going on.
1:13:51
And they want money to prepare for a
1:13:54
pandemic, for a possible war scenario.
1:13:58
But she did not say that COVID-19
1:14:01
and the Corona period was run by NATO
1:14:04
operatives and the anti-terrorism group.
1:14:08
It's just not true.
1:14:09
So stop.
1:14:10
When I heard that guy talking, I thought
1:14:13
the guy was full of crap just from
1:14:14
the sounds of it.
1:14:16
Well, but I didn't have to do the
1:14:17
translation.
1:14:18
But this has been going around.
1:14:20
But the yeah.
1:14:21
But the other thing I think that might
1:14:23
be true is the ex-CDC guy, that
1:14:25
weird bearded looking character that keeps cropping up,
1:14:29
who claims now in a tweet or in
1:14:33
a presentation that was retweeted that the that
1:14:38
COVID-19 was actually developed in North Carolina
1:14:40
and then moved to Wuhan.
1:14:42
Oh, no.
1:14:42
Oh, no.
1:14:43
Oh, no.
1:14:43
That's since you brought it up.
1:14:45
I'll play this other clip.
1:14:46
There's now.
1:14:47
Oh, no, no.
1:14:48
Canada is you're wrong.
1:14:50
You are wrong, my friend.
1:14:51
We're approaching five years since the first known
1:14:54
COVID-19 outbreak and scientists are still trying
1:14:57
to trace the origin of the pandemic.
1:14:59
Did it come from a lab or an
1:15:01
animal market?
1:15:03
Well, a Saskatoon virologist is part of a
1:15:05
team determined to find out.
1:15:07
CTV's Alison Bamford is on this story.
1:15:10
And Alison, what does new data suggest?
1:15:14
Sandy, these researchers say it's the most critical
1:15:17
question of the pandemic.
1:15:19
How did it start?
1:15:21
Their previous research pointed to a market in
1:15:23
Wuhan as the origin of the pandemic, where
1:15:26
the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans.
1:15:29
Now, an international team of scientists is strengthening
1:15:32
its case that COVID-19 wasn't leaked from
1:15:36
a lab.
1:15:37
So we have evidence that the infection spread
1:15:39
outward in the human population from the market.
1:15:42
Now we have information that proves that those
1:15:45
animals were at the market and we know
1:15:47
that at least some of them were susceptible.
1:15:49
The most common animal found at the market
1:15:52
was the raccoon dog, known to be susceptible
1:15:55
to the virus.
1:15:56
But researchers are now testing to see what
1:15:58
other animals could have been carriers.
1:16:00
As far as we know, the animals themselves
1:16:03
were never sampled.
1:16:05
We probably won't be able to locate the
1:16:08
exact infected animal.
1:16:10
Based on the evidence we have now, these
1:16:12
researchers say it's very difficult to explain any
1:16:15
other theory of origin.
1:16:16
That includes the theory that the virus was
1:16:19
leaked from the Wuhan lab.
1:16:21
This team of scientists says that hypothesis is
1:16:24
not probable.
1:16:47
Oh, man.
1:16:49
None of this is news.
1:16:51
This is just complete propaganda.
1:16:54
And we've learned nothing.
1:16:55
We've learned nothing.
1:16:57
But we've learned how full of crap these
1:16:58
people are.
1:16:59
Well, we have.
1:16:59
We have.
1:17:00
No agenda nation has.
1:17:01
But I'm just looking at my text messages
1:17:03
and like, nope, we've learned nothing.
1:17:05
Oh, no.
1:17:06
It's all scary.
1:17:07
It's all scary.
1:17:08
So I have a few clips about the
1:17:09
machine gun drones that I wanted to talk
1:17:13
about.
1:17:14
Okay.
1:17:15
Because this, again, brings up the inability of
1:17:17
the mainstream Gaza.
1:17:18
This is in Gaza.
1:17:19
Yeah.
1:17:20
The Gaza stuff.
1:17:21
Okay.
1:17:21
But first, I want to mention that this
1:17:23
morning, it turns out that the International Criminal
1:17:25
Court has indicted Netanyahu.
1:17:28
And just as an ask Adam.
1:17:31
Yes.
1:17:32
There's this morning on France 24.
1:17:35
They're going all over every detail of this
1:17:36
thing.
1:17:37
France is going to uphold it.
1:17:39
Right.
1:17:39
They said, oh, yes, we're all in.
1:17:40
Well, no, no, no.
1:17:42
They Macron says, maybe, maybe not.
1:17:45
But then the left wing of France says,
1:17:47
yes, yes, yes.
1:17:47
We're going to arrest them if we can.
1:17:49
But there's only one country.
1:17:52
Does they ask Adam only one country in
1:17:54
the EU that definitely will arrest him on
1:17:57
the spot if they see him has to
1:17:59
be the Netherlands, because the exactly the Hague,
1:18:02
of course.
1:18:02
Of course.
1:18:03
And they're bringing their bikes to surround him.
1:18:06
Yes, of course.
1:18:09
That's of course.
1:18:11
Yeah, that's what we do over there.
1:18:13
But meanwhile, this this strange war crime of
1:18:16
these machine gunned these.
1:18:19
Now, first of all, I want to ask
1:18:22
you a question.
1:18:22
When you when you say quadcopter specific, can
1:18:26
you describe one for me?
1:18:28
A quadcopter would be a drone that has
1:18:30
four engines with propeller blades, hence quad.
1:18:37
Exactly.
1:18:37
And it keeps it in perfect balance and
1:18:39
makes it very maneuverable.
1:18:42
So we have these these supposedly drones floating
1:18:46
around Gaza shooting people with a gun is
1:18:49
a machine gun attached to it.
1:18:51
OK, but but to begin these series of
1:18:54
clips, I have to play the Gaza drones
1:18:56
net pop.
1:18:57
This was the first time.
1:18:59
And I think we're going to start hearing
1:19:00
this.
1:19:01
You never heard this before.
1:19:03
NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who have seen
1:19:06
the destruction that these drones can cause.
1:19:09
And here's Kat Lonsdorf has been reporting from
1:19:12
Tel Aviv.
1:19:12
And she takes the story from here.
1:19:14
A warning.
1:19:15
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:19:19
They have a trigger warning for the sound
1:19:21
of gunfire.
1:19:23
Wow.
1:19:23
They should just be putting that on loudspeakers
1:19:26
throughout Chicago.
1:19:28
Believe warning.
1:19:29
This city has sounds of gunfire.
1:19:31
Oh, man.
1:19:32
OK, warning.
1:19:34
And this guy's the biggest guy that is
1:19:36
NPR.
1:19:38
Yeah, this is NPR.
1:19:39
Let's go with the drones.
1:19:40
Hold on.
1:19:40
Stop.
1:19:41
That's the one thing.
1:19:42
That's the one thing that every man, woman
1:19:45
and particularly child in the United States has
1:19:48
been exposed to since the womb.
1:19:52
There's gunfire on every television show, every movie,
1:19:56
every Democrat run city.
1:20:01
There's gunfire everywhere.
1:20:02
Since when has this become a trigger for
1:20:04
people?
1:20:06
I found it.
1:20:07
Well, not to bring it up.
1:20:09
Yes, I found it screwy.
1:20:11
Video games are filled with them.
1:20:14
No, it just makes it's somebody at NPR.
1:20:18
The great operation that it is, which I
1:20:20
have a final clip here will indicate they
1:20:24
can't even do simple work.
1:20:26
But yeah, somebody had to come.
1:20:28
Oh, you know, it's going to trigger somebody
1:20:30
who may have heard gunfire in real life
1:20:33
while playing a video game.
1:20:35
Oh, I'm triggered.
1:20:37
OK, clip two.
1:20:38
I don't have a number two.
1:20:40
Is that the Duke Robotics?
1:20:43
No, no, no.
1:20:44
Duke Robotics.
1:20:44
Oh, I'm sorry.
1:20:45
I see it.
1:20:46
Number two.
1:20:46
Yes, I do see it.
1:20:47
Thirty seven year old Fatima Adama is a
1:20:50
freelance journalist from Jabalia in northern Gaza.
1:20:52
It's an area that has been besieged by
1:20:55
Israeli forces since early October.
1:20:57
Adama sent NPR voice notes from her home
1:21:00
there on October 9th.
1:21:03
Hi, how are you?
1:21:04
She starts.
1:21:06
Israeli tanks are closing in, she says.
1:21:08
And the army is nearby.
1:21:10
Suddenly she's interrupted.
1:21:14
Ah, hear that, she says.
1:21:16
That's the quadcopter.
1:21:18
It's what many in Gaza call the small
1:21:20
hovering drone with a rifle mounted underneath.
1:21:23
So if I try to go closer to
1:21:25
the door to get better service, she says,
1:21:27
the quadcopter starts shooting and I have to
1:21:30
go back inside.
1:21:31
It's very dangerous.
1:21:33
The whole town is under siege by the
1:21:36
shooting quadcopter drones, she says.
1:21:38
No one can move.
1:21:40
For months, NPR has collected accounts from more
1:21:42
than a dozen people in Gaza who say
1:21:44
they have seen these sniper drones and that
1:21:46
they've seen them used to shoot and sometimes
1:21:48
kill civilians.
1:21:51
55-year-old Adib Shaqfa says he was
1:21:54
walking with his 32-year-old son on
1:21:56
May 31st in Rafa in southern Gaza.
1:21:59
Shaqfa says it was a quiet day and
1:22:01
there was no fighting nearby when suddenly a
1:22:05
drone appeared and shot his son who was
1:22:07
walking up ahead.
1:22:08
Wow.
1:22:10
Hmm.
1:22:13
Okay.
1:22:14
Well, that's the eyewitness that you think that,
1:22:16
you know, captured one of these.
1:22:17
I didn't think that machine gun sounded very
1:22:19
hefty.
1:22:21
Well, it's good.
1:22:23
Have a recoil.
1:22:24
You can't have something that's too powerful.
1:22:26
I mean, give me something like...
1:22:27
Now add the quadcopter.
1:22:31
Now that's, that's a nat pop.
1:22:34
Yeah, well, that would be triggering if you
1:22:36
ask me.
1:22:36
That's how it should sound.
1:22:38
Okay, so let's go to clip three and
1:22:40
then we have their summary.
1:22:42
He says two men rushed in to help
1:22:43
his son and they were also shot.
1:22:47
Two older women nearby were also shot in
1:22:49
the head, he says.
1:22:50
Shaqfa says the women were killed, so was
1:22:53
his son.
1:22:54
The Israeli military told NPR it's unaware of
1:22:57
this incident and that any suggestion that it
1:22:59
intends to harm civilians is, quote, unfounded and
1:23:02
baseless.
1:23:03
NPR also asked the Israeli military repeatedly if
1:23:06
it was using the sniper drone technology in
1:23:08
Gaza.
1:23:08
It did not respond to the question.
1:23:11
Israel, frankly, like many militaries, is very cautious
1:23:14
about what kinds of information it provides about
1:23:19
its operations and tactics that it uses.
1:23:23
Seth Jones is president of the Defense and
1:23:25
Security Department at the Center for Strategic and
1:23:27
International Studies in Washington, D.C. But also
1:23:30
makes it more difficult for everyday Israelis or
1:23:33
journalists or other researchers to understand how these
1:23:38
things are being used.
1:23:39
Further complicating that understanding, until recently Israel had
1:23:43
a censorship law in place forbidding the media
1:23:45
from reporting on armed drone use by the
1:23:48
military.
1:23:49
And it's something most journalists can't witness with
1:23:51
their own eyes.
1:23:52
Israel has not allowed outside journalists independent access
1:23:55
to Gaza since the war began more than
1:23:57
a year ago.
1:23:58
But we do know that this sniper drone
1:24:00
technology exists and that the Israeli military has
1:24:04
it.
1:24:04
OK, so we know it exists and we
1:24:07
know they have they have it and we
1:24:09
know as far as they go with it.
1:24:11
So it takes like 10 minutes, 10 minutes.
1:24:14
It takes like two minutes for me to
1:24:16
find out the company making these things, Duke
1:24:19
Robotics.
1:24:21
And curiously, you might find a little bit
1:24:23
of information on their own website.
1:24:26
These things were and they're not quadcopters.
1:24:28
They have eight engines.
1:24:30
No, the octocopters, octocopters, octocopters.
1:24:35
And they have a machine gun mounted at
1:24:37
the bottom.
1:24:38
And they've been around since 2016.
1:24:40
And here's what their video has to say
1:24:45
about it.
1:24:45
What if we told you the future is
1:24:49
now?
1:24:50
Robots are replacing combat soldiers.
1:24:54
Unnecessary casualties are becoming part of the past.
1:24:59
Minimizing collateral damage and uninvolved casualties.
1:25:05
Duke Robotics presents TCAD, the future.
1:25:12
With TCAD, the future battlefield has arrived.
1:25:17
A fully robotic battalion capable of identification and
1:25:21
surgical neutralization of hostiles in the field can
1:25:26
now be deployed to places human soldiers can't
1:25:29
reach or simply shouldn't have to go.
1:25:33
TCAD is able to adjust to the right
1:25:35
place and time.
1:25:37
The TCAD robot is designed to identify, target,
1:25:41
and engage in real-life scenarios.
1:25:44
TCAD takes a full recoil of the weapon
1:25:46
discharged, compensates for its poor, and quickly readjusts
1:25:51
to stay on target and in the fight.
1:25:54
The Defense Department chose Duke as winner of
1:25:57
the 2016 Terror Combat Competition.
1:26:01
The company is in the process of implementing
1:26:04
orders from Israeli forces.
1:26:09
You're hired.
1:26:10
You're hired.
1:26:11
You're hired.
1:26:12
You're welcome to NPR's new staff.
1:26:15
Unbelievable.
1:26:16
It's right there.
1:26:18
And this was from 2016.
1:26:20
They've been selling these things.
1:26:22
And 2017, I guess, is when they started
1:26:24
selling them to Israel.
1:26:26
These guys can't cover this?
1:26:29
No.
1:26:30
No.
1:26:31
They could have shown pictures of this crazy
1:26:32
device.
1:26:33
The thing's actually got like a regular kind
1:26:36
of a machine gun that you could carry
1:26:39
in the field, you know, with a stock
1:26:40
and everything.
1:26:41
Really?
1:26:41
Hanging from it on a bunch of springs.
1:26:45
Nice.
1:26:46
And so when it fires and kind of
1:26:48
jerks the thing around a little bit, it's
1:26:50
hilarious to watch.
1:26:52
I think we should start all of our
1:26:55
podcasts with the following.
1:26:56
A warning.
1:26:57
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:26:59
I think our podcast should start with that
1:27:01
always so we don't trigger anybody.
1:27:03
Well, there's a couple of other things regarding
1:27:05
Israel.
1:27:06
Good work, John.
1:27:07
Your job is secure at NPR.
1:27:10
There was a vote over a resolution in
1:27:15
the United Nations.
1:27:16
Another school turned shelter in Gaza hit by
1:27:19
a deadly Israeli strike.
1:27:21
Residents in the enclave continue to pay a
1:27:24
heavy price as Israel presses ahead with its
1:27:26
military campaign against Hamas.
1:27:28
Meanwhile, attempts to halt the fighting are still
1:27:30
proving unsuccessful.
1:27:32
A ceasefire draft resolution at the U.N.
1:27:34
Security Council has been blocked after it was
1:27:37
vetoed by the U.S. Matthew Miller explained
1:27:39
the reasoning behind the move.
1:27:41
The resolution does call for the release of
1:27:43
hostages.
1:27:44
What it doesn't do is link the release
1:27:47
of hostages to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
1:27:50
Israel's U.N. ambassador criticized the text, describing
1:27:53
it as a resolution for appeasement of Hamas.
1:27:55
The resolution being considered by the Security Council
1:27:58
today is nothing short of a betrayal.
1:28:02
Betrayal.
1:28:02
It betrays the 101 innocent hostages.
1:28:06
Amongst the countries to voice their disappointment over
1:28:08
the U.S. veto was France, which stated
1:28:10
that the text very firmly insists on the
1:28:12
release of the hostages.
1:28:14
For the Palestinian envoy to the U.N.,
1:28:16
there is no excuse for failing to reach
1:28:18
an agreement.
1:28:19
There is no right to mass killing of
1:28:22
civilians.
1:28:23
There is no right to starve an entire
1:28:25
civilian population.
1:28:26
This is what Israel is doing in Gaza.
1:28:29
It marks the fourth time America has exercised
1:28:32
its veto power during the war in support
1:28:34
of its ally Israel.
1:28:35
So, no, and this is a new, this
1:28:39
is not the old, the female, the woman
1:28:42
ambassador.
1:28:43
There's some dude who's doing the veto.
1:28:46
Do they have a different ambassador all of
1:28:47
a sudden that I'm not aware of?
1:28:49
I don't keep up.
1:28:50
And and then the Pope, the Pope spoke
1:28:53
up about Israel.
1:28:55
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
1:28:57
study whether Israel's.
1:28:59
By the way, this is from Reuters, and
1:29:00
I have a couple of clips from Reuters
1:29:02
today.
1:29:02
I am pretty sure this is an AI
1:29:04
generated voice.
1:29:06
It's 14, it could be 14 seconds.
1:29:08
Have a listen.
1:29:09
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
1:29:11
study whether Israel's military campaign in Gaza constitutes
1:29:15
genocide.
1:29:16
It's some of the Pope's most explicit criticism
1:29:19
yet of Israel's conduct in its yearlong war
1:29:22
against Hamas.
1:29:24
I'm pretty sure that's AI.
1:29:26
Um, I don't know what, what is the
1:29:28
Pope doing?
1:29:30
What does he have to do with this?
1:29:34
I don't wanna get all my Catholic friends
1:29:36
irked.
1:29:37
No, well, I mean.
1:29:38
But he's the anti-Pope.
1:29:40
He's Satan.
1:29:41
Oh, John at Dvorak.org, which you can't
1:29:45
spell anyway.
1:29:46
So just send it to me.
1:29:47
I'll forward it.
1:29:48
Yes, send it to Adam McCurry, very easy
1:29:51
to spell.
1:29:54
A childhood school photo of you.
1:29:56
Have you ever seen this one?
1:29:58
I don't, probably not.
1:29:59
And you're wearing a Pabst Blue Ribbon shirt?
1:30:02
No, somebody doctored that.
1:30:07
And I said, why don't you send this
1:30:09
to John?
1:30:10
Why are you sending to me?
1:30:11
And he says, well, I couldn't remember how
1:30:13
to spell his name and his spam filter
1:30:15
would probably block it anyway.
1:30:17
So you're wasting my hard drive space with
1:30:19
this?
1:30:21
Really?
1:30:21
Send it to me.
1:30:22
I'll take a look at it.
1:30:22
Yeah, I have it.
1:30:24
I kept it.
1:30:25
I want people to know that we have
1:30:27
a lot of fun show bits coming up,
1:30:30
including some big tech, some big pharma news,
1:30:34
and trans Maoist news.
1:30:37
So you may not want to go away.
1:30:39
As I thank you, the man who put
1:30:41
two C's in Octocopter and say in the
1:30:44
morning to you, the man who put those
1:30:46
C's there, John C.
1:30:48
DeVore.
1:30:52
John, good morning to you, it's Adam Crane.
1:30:54
Good morning to our ships, Seaboots and the
1:30:55
Graffini.
1:30:55
Our subs in the water and all the
1:30:56
dames and knights out there.
1:30:58
Yeah, in the morning to the trolls in
1:30:59
the troll room.
1:31:00
Stand still, don't move, let me catch you.
1:31:06
All right, 21.11 for today.
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That's above average.
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Way above average 300.
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Yeah, you know why?
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Because everybody's freaked out about World War 3.
1:31:18
So if you came here for the...
1:31:20
Well, I wish they'd be more freaked out
1:31:21
about giving us more donations.
1:31:23
If you came here to be calmed down...
1:31:28
Hey, it's gonna...
1:31:28
No, World War 3 is coming.
1:31:30
You know, the last...
1:31:30
Get your bank accounts cleared out.
1:31:33
Get...
1:31:33
Buy Bitcoin.
1:31:35
Buy high so Adam can get out.
1:31:38
Adam's not getting out.
1:31:39
It's gonna crack 100,000.
1:31:42
It's crazy.
1:31:43
I think I'll get to 150.
1:31:46
Should I sell at 150?
1:31:48
Is that your advice?
1:31:49
I got nothing to do with advising you
1:31:51
on selling or buying Bitcoin.
1:31:55
So funny.
1:31:57
No, exactly.
1:31:59
But we provide a service.
1:32:00
If we really wanted to make money and
1:32:03
be living on the high hog, we'd be
1:32:07
saying things like, Oh my God, World War
1:32:09
3 is coming.
1:32:11
It's unbelievable.
1:32:12
What are we going to do?
1:32:15
We have our people over there because you
1:32:17
can't use and attack them without 25 American
1:32:20
soldiers.
1:32:21
They're all there in Ukraine.
1:32:23
It's under our guide.
1:32:25
That's right.
1:32:25
It's an active war.
1:32:25
Biden did this before Trump.
1:32:27
It's horrible.
1:32:27
I can't believe it.
1:32:28
We're all gonna die.
1:32:31
Calm down.
1:32:33
We can safely say this because we've been
1:32:37
through this.
1:32:37
We've seen this movie many times.
1:32:40
Go back and listen to the archives.
1:32:42
We've seen how this works.
1:32:45
And the fear of NATO getting the financial
1:32:49
plug pulled is very real and very big.
1:32:53
And Europeans aren't gonna put up with it.
1:32:56
No, no, nor is the military.
1:32:59
It's like the COP 29.
1:33:00
I only have one clip from that to
1:33:01
come later.
1:33:02
But, you know, this is about gouging the
1:33:04
American taxpayer.
1:33:06
That's all everything's about.
1:33:07
It's about gouging the Pentagon.
1:33:10
They can't audit it.
1:33:12
The ridiculous Medicare fraud.
1:33:14
Everything's about gouging and the NATO, UN gouged
1:33:19
the American taxpayer.
1:33:21
But meanwhile, when you listen to NPR.
1:33:23
A warning.
1:33:24
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:33:26
You should be very worried about all that.
1:33:28
Very, very worried.
1:33:30
You really like that clip.
1:33:30
I do.
1:33:31
It's rivaling their eating the dogs.
1:33:33
It's up there.
1:33:34
It's up there.
1:33:36
So the trolls are in the troll room
1:33:37
at trollroom.io. And that's where you can
1:33:42
listen to the live stream.
1:33:44
You can also jump in and troll around,
1:33:46
which a lot of them have been doing
1:33:49
today.
1:33:49
But, you know, they're there.
1:33:51
It's our live studio audience.
1:33:52
Sometimes they're helpful.
1:33:53
Sometimes they're just trolly.
1:33:55
You can also get this on a modern
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You want to get a modern podcast app
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because on Monday, December 16th, I am hosting
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A live concert, John.
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I'll be back on stage.
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Haven't done it in over two decades.
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You're going to be on stage with a
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microphone?
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Well, I'm not singing, but I'm emceeing.
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Huh?
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Huh?
1:34:32
You're going to wear a wig?
1:34:35
No, I'm thinking of putting on my Headbangers
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bald jacket.
1:34:39
I think you should definitely do that, but
1:34:40
you should wear a wig.
1:34:42
I don't think so.
1:34:43
Yeah, a big blonde wig.
1:34:44
Oh, that's so funny.
1:34:46
People have been asking if you want to
1:34:48
come to the show.
1:34:50
I'm like, I'm not even going to ask
1:34:51
you.
1:34:52
Oh, yeah.
1:34:53
That's the response.
1:34:54
Yeah, he's going to say, oh, yeah, oh,
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yeah, I'll be right there.
1:34:57
Let me hop on the plane.
1:34:58
I'll be right there.
1:34:59
Let me hop on the plane.
1:35:02
Well, there are other benefits besides seeing cool
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the music business.
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You'll also get alerted when we send out
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the bat signal for our live show and
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for that live show, for that matter.
1:35:15
And when we publish the show within 90
1:35:17
seconds, you get immediately notified.
1:35:21
We have transcripts.
1:35:22
We have chapters, all kinds of groovy stuff
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that you can't get from your legacy apps.
1:35:26
How's the transcripts guide?
1:35:29
How's that product doing?
1:35:30
Oh, the TurboScribe.ai?
1:35:32
Very well.
1:35:33
And what I like about it is the
1:35:35
transcript is done before I publish the show.
1:35:38
I used to have to put a little
1:35:39
dummy in there, a little dummy transcript file
1:35:42
that says transcript is processing because it was
1:35:45
literally processing.
1:35:47
And now, by the time, so the minute
1:35:50
the show is mixed down, you know, so
1:35:53
I just take off the ending and I
1:35:57
put our little opening segment, whichever we choose,
1:36:01
and then I mix it down into the
1:36:02
MP3.
1:36:04
And then the first thing I do is
1:36:05
I upload it to TurboScribe.ai, and it's
1:36:08
done before we're even done with the credits.
1:36:11
And that's so I can just, I can
1:36:13
publish the show with real transcripts in there.
1:36:16
So it's that, it lives up to the
1:36:18
name.
1:36:20
Turbo.
1:36:20
I can't get it to, the speaker recognition
1:36:24
is not as great.
1:36:27
They can recognize speakers, but it'll, you know,
1:36:30
you could say, how many speakers do you
1:36:31
want to recognize?
1:36:31
I say, well, two.
1:36:33
But then, you know, we have so many
1:36:35
voices in this podcast, it gets very confused
1:36:37
over who's saying what.
1:36:38
But because of the clips.
1:36:39
Yeah.
1:36:40
And it doesn't really, and if you go
1:36:41
in later, see the other thing I was
1:36:43
using, otter.ai. Once I had said, this
1:36:47
is John C.
1:36:48
Dvorak, then no matter, even if we hadn't
1:36:50
recorded a show for a year, I drag
1:36:52
in an MP3 of a show that we
1:36:54
did, it would recognize your voice again.
1:36:56
That was very nice.
1:36:57
So the speaker name, it's not the hardest,
1:36:59
it's not the worst thing to not have,
1:37:01
but it could be improved upon.
1:37:04
But it's free for us, so I'm not
1:37:05
complaining.
1:37:06
It's really fast.
1:37:07
I like it.
1:37:11
Well, that little commentary right there is probably
1:37:14
going to be listened to by the coders.
1:37:18
And they're going, oh, we can fix that.
1:37:21
We can fix that.
1:37:22
Mm-hmm.
1:37:23
Not just the coders, the CEO, Leaf.
1:37:25
The CEO is going to say, hey, boys
1:37:27
and girls, hey, North Koreans, get out of
1:37:30
Ukraine and code this up for me.
1:37:33
So that's what we call value for value.
1:37:36
He gave us some value.
1:37:37
We said, hey, I'm going to give you
1:37:38
this product.
1:37:39
You can use it for free.
1:37:40
He says, John, you want a copy?
1:37:43
Jay?
1:37:43
I still haven't got my copy because I
1:37:45
haven't sent him a note back.
1:37:47
Oh, well, there you go.
1:37:48
But that's one way you can open it.
1:37:50
So it's not a psychic product.
1:37:52
No, it's far from it.
1:37:54
So people can help in many ways to
1:37:57
help produce the show.
1:37:58
This is a time saver.
1:37:59
Time equals money always, so we appreciate that.
1:38:03
We appreciate any value returned to us in
1:38:05
time, talent, or treasure.
1:38:08
A longstanding way that people have provided us
1:38:12
with a treasure or with a time and
1:38:14
talent is the artwork.
1:38:15
I got another note from one of our
1:38:17
artists, if you want to hear.
1:38:21
This is about the hot topic.
1:38:23
Wait, wait.
1:38:23
Is this another note where the artist is
1:38:25
pissed off because we looked at him cross
1:38:28
-eyed, that type of note?
1:38:29
No, this is another artist who is saddened
1:38:33
by AI.
1:38:35
Oh, yeah, I saw this note.
1:38:38
Yeah, this has to be read.
1:38:39
From Sir Shug.
1:38:40
Sir Shug, who was one recently a couple
1:38:42
of times.
1:38:43
He says, as any artist, I felt like
1:38:45
sharing my experience with the hot topic of
1:38:47
AI.
1:38:48
As another Dutch master lamented, it can be
1:38:51
a real motivational killer.
1:38:53
And they said to Tante Neel.
1:38:54
By the way, he also mentioned in this
1:38:56
note, where's our other artist who hasn't been
1:39:01
around?
1:39:04
We have a bunch of them.
1:39:05
Are you kidding?
1:39:06
A whole bunch of them have just rage
1:39:08
quit.
1:39:08
Well, a lot of them quit because they
1:39:10
have the timing, they get jobs, they don't
1:39:13
listen to the show, they become Democrats.
1:39:18
This is since the influx of AI art.
1:39:21
They've become very demotivated.
1:39:22
And he actually has make some sense.
1:39:25
He said, notice quite some time ago, dramatic
1:39:27
increase in AI submissions.
1:39:28
It was very discouraging.
1:39:30
At first, I fought against it.
1:39:31
I fought and kept plugging along, doing what
1:39:34
I did.
1:39:35
But at a certain point, I realized some
1:39:37
of this AI stuff is winning.
1:39:39
And then I realized the compositions put together
1:39:41
as hybrids were winning as well.
1:39:44
It was all confusing and conflicting.
1:39:46
After a bit, I decided to simply get
1:39:48
good at using AI.
1:39:49
But honestly, something fell off and I've yet
1:39:52
to fully embrace it and know how to
1:39:53
take advantage of it using AI in an
1:39:55
effective manner.
1:39:56
This is not to say there's no skill
1:39:58
to producing effective AI art.
1:40:00
I believe Darren O'Neill has found a
1:40:02
great niche with his prompting.
1:40:03
And some of what he puts out is
1:40:05
brilliant.
1:40:05
Francisco Scaramanga is one of the best artists
1:40:07
contributing to the show and has a great
1:40:09
sense of combining his skills with AI.
1:40:12
He's a great designer and a great prompt
1:40:14
jockey.
1:40:14
Hubba hubba.
1:40:15
There are also others using AI really well.
1:40:18
But he's actually very honored that he's won
1:40:22
several times.
1:40:24
But he says to echo fellow Dutch masters,
1:40:27
Tantaniel, Boisvert, Koob.
1:40:29
It can be a very time consuming and
1:40:31
real challenging to do what it takes to
1:40:32
conceive of, compose, and execute a non-AI
1:40:35
piece that is worthy and capable of meeting
1:40:37
with your approval.
1:40:38
Anyway, so meeting of our approval has nothing
1:40:41
to do with slickness.
1:40:43
I'll just reiterate that.
1:40:45
In fact, a comic strip blogger uploads lots
1:40:48
of slick art and we think it sucks.
1:40:51
It sucks.
1:40:52
It's horrible.
1:40:53
Because he has no concept.
1:40:55
You need a concept, something.
1:40:57
And that often comes from the show.
1:40:59
It has to be something that we do
1:41:01
on the show that triggers, like gunfire, that
1:41:05
triggers something in the artist to go and
1:41:07
make something.
1:41:08
But this kind of reminded me back in
1:41:10
the day when we first started.
1:41:12
A comic strip blogger is still one of
1:41:14
the top winners.
1:41:16
It doesn't mean it doesn't suck.
1:41:18
Okay.
1:41:19
He used to draw stuff by hand.
1:41:21
He used to draw stuff by hand.
1:41:23
And we've used a lot now.
1:41:24
Some of his AI art we've used.
1:41:26
But he's on this round kick, which is
1:41:28
dumb.
1:41:29
And we told him not to do it.
1:41:30
The round thing's got to go.
1:41:31
And he keeps doing it.
1:41:31
Put a stop to that.
1:41:33
But back in the day, we had a
1:41:35
lot of artists who were hand drawing using
1:41:38
a Wacom tablet.
1:41:40
I would say Wacom, but I know you
1:41:41
say Wacom.
1:41:42
Using a tablet, drawing, doing stuff digital.
1:41:46
And I think we had similar conversations about
1:41:49
Photoshop and clip art.
1:41:52
Clip art was a big deal.
1:41:53
We would try to, you know, oh, he
1:41:55
used clip art.
1:41:56
That's not fair.
1:41:57
Remember?
1:41:58
No.
1:41:59
Yes.
1:41:59
And then these artists would say, no, no,
1:42:01
I have licensed this clip art.
1:42:03
Ah, yes.
1:42:03
That has happened.
1:42:04
Yes.
1:42:05
And it was either Tante Neal or the
1:42:08
other, who was the other one that hates
1:42:10
us?
1:42:12
At this point, they all hate us.
1:42:15
And by the way, we're just trying to
1:42:16
provide feedback.
1:42:17
We're not shitting on you.
1:42:19
We're just trying to provide feedback to make
1:42:21
you better.
1:42:22
It's a rare opportunity to be in the
1:42:24
room with the art director.
1:42:27
Because people are saying this about you anyway
1:42:30
behind your back.
1:42:31
But now you get to hear it.
1:42:32
Yeah.
1:42:32
It's got to be beneficial.
1:42:33
It's a service.
1:42:34
It's a complete service to you.
1:42:36
It's completely a service.
1:42:38
Take it from us.
1:42:39
It's a good thing.
1:42:40
They should be sending us money.
1:42:41
I'm saying.
1:42:42
Because of what they learned from listening to
1:42:44
us complain.
1:42:44
I'm just saying.
1:42:46
So, you know, yes, I think that the
1:42:49
tools are changing.
1:42:51
And I have to agree.
1:42:52
I'm amazed at what Darren O'Neill gets
1:42:54
done.
1:42:55
But he has concepts.
1:42:57
And you all have concepts.
1:42:59
And, you know, there was someone else who
1:43:01
sent me.
1:43:01
Well, this artist, he hand drew these things.
1:43:05
And you didn't give him any note, any
1:43:08
mention.
1:43:09
Okay.
1:43:09
It was.
1:43:10
They were pretty drawings, but they weren't funny.
1:43:14
They didn't pertain to something that was said
1:43:16
in the show.
1:43:17
It's supposed to.
1:43:18
It's also.
1:43:19
It's advertising art.
1:43:20
It's not highfalutin, high concept.
1:43:23
This is to draw people in.
1:43:25
Like, oh, what is this?
1:43:26
That must be a great episode.
1:43:28
Or what is this show about?
1:43:30
So, it's not your run-of-the-mill
1:43:32
art.
1:43:33
You know.
1:43:33
And you can get people.
1:43:36
You can draw people in with all kinds
1:43:39
of tools.
1:43:40
From a marketing perspective.
1:43:42
Unlike, by the way, Coca-Cola.
1:43:44
Who created their latest ads for Christmas with
1:43:47
AI.
1:43:48
And everyone hates it.
1:43:50
People are like, this doesn't feel Christmassy at
1:43:53
all.
1:43:55
I don't know what you're referring to offhand.
1:43:58
Oh, no.
1:43:58
I can believe it.
1:44:00
Coca-Cola is a woke company now.
1:44:02
They're no good.
1:44:03
You want to hear a woke company?
1:44:06
You got the Jaguar clip?
1:44:07
Yes, of course.
1:44:09
Of course.
1:44:10
I have it too.
1:44:10
Yes.
1:44:11
Hold on.
1:44:12
Where is it?
1:44:12
Where's my.
1:44:13
Bonus clip.
1:44:13
This is like one of the.
1:44:14
Bonus clip.
1:44:15
Yep.
1:44:15
The bonus clip.
1:44:18
Santino Petrosanti.
1:44:19
Yes.
1:44:20
Notice the name of the same clip.
1:44:23
My clip is called Short Jaguar.
1:44:25
Oh, well, he is head of brand strategy
1:44:28
for Jaguar.
1:44:29
Oh, before we play the clip.
1:44:30
A warning.
1:44:31
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:44:34
He is responsible for the branding internally and
1:44:39
externally.
1:44:40
And at Jaguar, we're passionate about our people.
1:44:44
And we're committed to fostering a diverse, inclusive,
1:44:47
and unified culture that is representative not only
1:44:51
of the people who use our products, but
1:44:54
in a society in which we all live.
1:44:56
A culture where our employees can bring their
1:44:59
authentic selves to work.
1:45:01
And we're on a transformative journey of our
1:45:03
own, driven by a belief in diversity, inclusion,
1:45:08
creativity, policy, and most importantly, action.
1:45:13
We've established over 15 DEI groups, such as
1:45:17
Pride, who are here tonight in the back.
1:45:19
Shout out to Pride.
1:45:22
Thank you guys for coming.
1:45:24
Women in Engineering and Neurodiversity Matters.
1:45:27
We've launched major policy revisions, such as transitioning
1:45:31
at work to drive equity and support for
1:45:34
our communities, embracing individuality as our superpower.
1:45:38
Oh, it says superpower.
1:45:40
Make a good car.
1:45:42
Yeah, how about that for an idea?
1:45:44
Make a good car.
1:45:46
Yeah, well.
1:45:47
Jaguars.
1:45:47
They changed their logo, too.
1:45:48
It doesn't even have the, I don't think
1:45:49
they stopped using the Jaguar.
1:45:52
Really?
1:45:53
Yeah, somebody's had some commentary about that.
1:45:56
Because it was unfair to the animal, or?
1:45:59
I have no idea.
1:46:00
Maybe they didn't get a license from the
1:46:01
Jaguar community, the diverse community.
1:46:04
I have no idea.
1:46:05
The whole thing is ridiculous.
1:46:07
Have you seen their ads?
1:46:07
And to be bragging about it as though
1:46:10
it's like some, you're right.
1:46:11
Just make a good car.
1:46:13
Do whatever you want.
1:46:14
Why are you kind of posturing this bull
1:46:18
crap?
1:46:18
Yeah, hello.
1:46:20
Hello, 2010.
1:46:22
Hello.
1:46:23
You did it twice.
1:46:25
I sure did, but.
1:46:26
Hello.
1:46:26
Have you seen their ads?
1:46:30
Yes, the ads are terrible.
1:46:31
Yeah, you don't even see the car.
1:46:34
They don't know.
1:46:34
Why show a car?
1:46:35
Now we're just going to show a bunch
1:46:36
of creeps walking around.
1:46:38
It's really incredible.
1:46:41
Hey, we want to thank you.
1:46:42
Well, we got time today.
1:46:43
If you people want to keep listening, I
1:46:44
have some TikTok clips that are of creeps.
1:46:46
Oh, is this stuff that you need to
1:46:48
be seeing it to understand it?
1:46:50
No, no.
1:46:51
It's just people whining and moaning and groaning.
1:46:54
All the way at the end, then.
1:46:56
This would be mostly people that aren't going
1:46:58
to meet with their family for Thanksgiving because
1:47:01
of the way they voted.
1:47:02
Oh, it's a holiday segment.
1:47:04
Yes, it's the holiday segment.
1:47:07
You can do that next couple of shows.
1:47:09
By the way, we're working on Thanksgiving, as
1:47:11
we always do.
1:47:13
I don't think there's been one Thanksgiving once
1:47:16
that we didn't work.
1:47:17
I don't recall that.
1:47:19
2017, I was in England.
1:47:22
Okay, I'll give that to you.
1:47:24
Anyway, we want to thank Capitalist Agenda, who
1:47:26
brought us the artwork for episode 1713.
1:47:28
We titled that, Lipless Wonder, after the $3
1:47:31
million news model, Caitlin, the lipless wonder.
1:47:37
And we looked at this.
1:47:38
We didn't even know if it was AI,
1:47:40
if so, how much.
1:47:42
It was a very Capitalist Agenda type piece.
1:47:46
Who does these pieces?
1:47:48
I actually used one of his pieces for
1:47:50
the newsletter, which we somehow overlooked.
1:47:55
It was actually a dynamite piece.
1:47:57
It was the spy versus spy characters, only
1:48:01
they were both donkeys.
1:48:03
And it said Dem versus Dem.
1:48:05
Oh, we missed that.
1:48:07
I think it's a piece that came in
1:48:08
later or something.
1:48:09
When I saw it, I decided to just
1:48:11
look up Capitalist Agenda art, because he's really
1:48:14
good.
1:48:15
I don't see it on the list.
1:48:19
You clicked on his art when it was
1:48:21
maybe an older piece?
1:48:23
Yes, it was an older piece.
1:48:25
It was maybe two or three shows ago.
1:48:27
No, it was 1709 is when he submitted
1:48:30
it.
1:48:31
Yeah.
1:48:31
Yeah, we must have chosen something else for
1:48:33
that episode.
1:48:35
It was a killer piece.
1:48:36
But thank you, Capitalist Agenda.
1:48:38
We liked it.
1:48:38
We thought it was good.
1:48:41
I kind of like Scaramanga's Robo Spear, as
1:48:46
in Shakespeare.
1:48:47
I like that a little bit.
1:48:50
The It's Nuts transition snack from Sir Net
1:48:54
Ned was high on our list.
1:48:56
But it lacked something.
1:48:58
I think it was the rabbit ears on
1:48:59
RFK that kind of turned us off.
1:49:04
I did use it for the bat signal
1:49:06
today.
1:49:07
By the way, most of these images, whether
1:49:09
we like them or not, are used in
1:49:11
the chapters.
1:49:12
So people do get exposure to them.
1:49:16
Dame Kenny Ben, who I know did this
1:49:20
by hand.
1:49:21
She had the first buddy of the United
1:49:23
States write good concept.
1:49:25
But the execution just didn't make sense.
1:49:28
It didn't really look like a challenge coin.
1:49:31
I think it was Dame Kenny Ben who
1:49:33
complained when we bitched about clip art.
1:49:36
Yeah, could be.
1:49:38
And it had the right.
1:49:40
By the way, I got a in the
1:49:43
PO box.
1:49:44
You remember the constitutional lawyer, Rob, who took
1:49:47
us out and we met the two former
1:49:49
spooks from the NSA who were in Germany?
1:49:53
Yeah.
1:49:54
So they sent me a mug.
1:49:57
Yes.
1:49:59
Straight from an authentic NSA mug.
1:50:05
It was a coffee mug.
1:50:06
It has National Security Agency logo on one
1:50:09
side.
1:50:09
On the other side, it has the super
1:50:11
secret squirrel.
1:50:12
There's an actual squirrel that has a super
1:50:15
secret badge on him.
1:50:17
This is very cute.
1:50:18
I like that they have humor over there.
1:50:21
At the NSA.
1:50:23
Sure.
1:50:24
That's supposed to be funny.
1:50:26
Yeah.
1:50:27
When you see it's a cute squirrel.
1:50:28
Yeah.
1:50:29
I think it's the dead squirrel.
1:50:33
Are you telling me the squirrels aren't real?
1:50:36
So were you telling me?
1:50:37
Yes.
1:50:38
And birds.
1:50:39
Darren did a cool piece, which I think
1:50:41
was meant for congratulating Ashley Speed.
1:50:46
Wow.
1:50:48
Man, they're on a roll over there.
1:50:51
Yeah.
1:50:52
Like I said, she's going to be very
1:50:54
world famous at some point as one of
1:50:56
the greatest female racers ever.
1:50:58
She's going to end up at Indy and
1:51:01
we're going to call her up and say,
1:51:03
hey, can we get some pit passes?
1:51:05
And she's going to say, who?
1:51:12
You stepped all over my line.
1:51:14
I'm sorry.
1:51:15
I'm sorry.
1:51:16
But you're right.
1:51:17
Who?
1:51:19
What else was there?
1:51:21
No, that was really the stuff we looked
1:51:23
at.
1:51:24
There were some other things.
1:51:26
Everyone tries.
1:51:27
I know.
1:51:27
I know everyone's trying to do stuff.
1:51:31
And so the hybrids.
1:51:32
You try some hybrids, people.
1:51:34
Go with the times.
1:51:35
What can I tell you?
1:51:36
It's horrible.
1:51:37
I hate it.
1:51:38
You know, there's even some music now that
1:51:40
I'm like toe tapping.
1:51:43
I'm like, oh, wait a minute.
1:51:44
This is AI.
1:51:45
I didn't even realize it.
1:51:46
Oh, wait.
1:51:47
You got suckered?
1:51:48
You were tapping your toe to some AI
1:51:51
music?
1:51:51
Do you know who's doing some really amazing
1:51:54
AI music?
1:51:59
Bob Dylan.
1:52:00
Listen to this.
1:52:02
Tell me, A, do you think this is
1:52:03
AI?
1:52:04
And then tell me who did it.
1:52:07
What is your miracle?
1:52:14
What is your miracle?
1:52:19
Every morning.
1:52:23
What is your miracle?
1:52:26
So that is completely AI generated with a
1:52:32
lot of work and prompting by Mo Facts.
1:52:37
I didn't care for it.
1:52:40
Had a very Motown-y vibe.
1:52:41
I liked it.
1:52:42
Mo and the Artifacts is the group.
1:52:46
Yeah.
1:52:47
Well, I played it yesterday or Wednesday on
1:52:50
the Booster Grand Ball.
1:52:51
People didn't know that it was AI.
1:52:52
Like, wow, this sounds just like Motown.
1:52:53
See, once I set them up, I said,
1:52:55
oh, this is Mo Facts who did this.
1:52:57
Then they didn't think about it being AI.
1:53:00
Very interesting.
1:53:02
Well, good.
1:53:03
It's fun to do this stuff.
1:53:05
Yeah.
1:53:05
Yeah.
1:53:06
But if people really had to pay what
1:53:07
it costs, they wouldn't be doing it.
1:53:09
And those days are coming.
1:53:12
Microsoft Copilot, now $20 a month.
1:53:16
It is?
1:53:17
Oh, yeah.
1:53:19
I've never used it.
1:53:21
I did do an AI test recently.
1:53:22
So I used Grok.
1:53:24
Yes.
1:53:25
And I used Perplexity.
1:53:27
Perplexity is not bad.
1:53:30
Well, both of these were a complete fail.
1:53:34
Oh.
1:53:34
And here's what the question was.
1:53:35
I asked very specifically, because I saw this
1:53:37
again.
1:53:38
They played it.
1:53:39
It's on YouTube.
1:53:40
And it was Jim Gaffigan yacking away at
1:53:43
the dinner, the Al Smith dinner.
1:53:47
And then Trump goes up there, and he
1:53:49
does another 10 minutes of material.
1:53:51
There is a blonde woman sitting next to
1:53:54
the podium who seems to be part of
1:53:57
the group that put this on or something,
1:54:00
because she's always kibitzing.
1:54:01
And when she's sitting next to Gaffigan, she's
1:54:03
between Gaffigan.
1:54:04
She is next to the podium between the
1:54:06
podium and Gaffigan when he sat down.
1:54:09
Question, who was this woman?
1:54:12
Because she's a scene stealer.
1:54:13
She's mugging the cameras.
1:54:14
You're doing a lot of work.
1:54:15
So I asked both Perplexity and Grok.
1:54:19
Grok said it was Melania Trump, which wasn't
1:54:23
sitting anywhere near the podium.
1:54:25
And so that's way off.
1:54:26
And she's not blonde.
1:54:27
And Perplexity couldn't identify her.
1:54:29
So what good does that do me?
1:54:31
Where's this AI?
1:54:32
It has to be some person that we
1:54:35
all know or that somebody knows.
1:54:38
A very prominent position in a very prominent
1:54:41
event.
1:54:42
Who was it?
1:54:42
They can't tell me.
1:54:43
I just asked Chad GPT and at the
1:54:46
2020-2024 Al Smith dinner, the prominent blonde
1:54:49
woman seen at the event was former First
1:54:52
Lady Melania Trump.
1:54:54
She's not blonde.
1:54:55
Prominent blonde woman, Melania Trump.
1:54:57
She's not blonde.
1:54:58
She's not blonde.
1:54:59
And she wasn't sitting there.
1:55:00
Now we have three fails of this AI
1:55:04
search.
1:55:05
It's crap.
1:55:07
No, it's no good.
1:55:08
It's no good.
1:55:09
And it's not getting better.
1:55:10
Did you hear that the new chips, they
1:55:13
have to recall them because they're overheating?
1:55:15
Yeah, well, that's kind of old news.
1:55:18
The stock still went up.
1:55:19
Oh, yeah, sure.
1:55:20
All right.
1:55:20
So was Bitcoin.
1:55:21
Fine.
1:55:22
Whatever.
1:55:23
So now we have three fails on a
1:55:25
simple question.
1:55:26
And I know if I just took a
1:55:28
picture of the image and circled her and
1:55:31
put an arrow and posted it on any
1:55:35
number of social networks, someone would have the
1:55:37
answer.
1:55:37
But these great AI search engines, they can't
1:55:41
come up with that simple answer.
1:55:44
None of them.
1:55:46
Thank you very much, Capitalist Agenda, and to
1:55:48
all the artists who did their best.
1:55:51
We appreciate it all.
1:55:52
Almost all of it gets used in the
1:55:54
chapters.
1:55:55
And it's fun to look at.
1:55:57
It's great to have this resource, noagendaartgenerator.com.
1:56:00
I hope that we get the people, the
1:56:04
Dutch masters with their getting used to some
1:56:08
of the new tools, if appropriate.
1:56:11
And if not, I hope you stick with
1:56:13
it because you all are very, very good.
1:56:14
And it's very appreciated what you do.
1:56:16
No matter who we pick, we love you
1:56:18
all.
1:56:20
Right, John?
1:56:21
Yep.
1:56:22
OK.
1:56:23
Now let's get to the treasure.
1:56:25
This is producers who support us financially.
1:56:28
The list is not very long today.
1:56:30
No, not on a Thursday.
1:56:31
This is really piss poor, to be honest
1:56:33
about it.
1:56:34
It must have been the newsletter, again.
1:56:37
Could be.
1:56:39
By the way, you should subscribe to the
1:56:42
newsletter.
1:56:42
You can do that at noagendashow.net, any
1:56:44
of the show notes pages.
1:56:46
It's a good read.
1:56:47
It really is.
1:56:47
It's worth looking at.
1:56:49
It's fun.
1:56:49
It's entertaining.
1:56:50
And we remind you that we have a
1:56:52
show coming up, and we do that the
1:56:53
day before.
1:56:53
So it's useful.
1:56:54
It's a very useful wagon.
1:56:57
We appreciate anyone who supports us, and all
1:57:00
of you are producers for that very reason
1:57:02
alone.
1:57:03
We read and thank all the names and
1:57:06
give you their donation amounts above $50.
1:57:08
$200 and above, we'd like to stop and
1:57:10
thank them in this segment.
1:57:12
Not only do we read their note, but
1:57:14
they also become associate executive producers of this
1:57:16
episode, which are credits that are real and
1:57:18
are recognized anywhere that you can put show
1:57:22
business credits down as a chit.
1:57:27
Say, here I am, associate executive producer, including
1:57:30
imdb.com, and $300 or above, and you
1:57:33
automatically become an executive producer of this episode,
1:57:36
and we read your note as well.
1:57:38
And so as we kick it off, our
1:57:40
top executive producer is Agent 99 from LaGrange,
1:57:43
Texas.
1:57:43
We've heard from Agent 99 before, 333.
1:57:46
And Agent 99 says, with this donation, Well,
1:57:58
once we knight you, which is coming up
1:57:59
later, he says, I presume you want that
1:58:08
at the round table.
1:58:16
Ah, good for your sanity.
1:58:17
Your content keeps me ahead 9 to 12
1:58:20
months of the M5M news cycle.
1:58:23
Your comedy and banter keep me laughing.
1:58:26
I have hit Mrs. Agent 99 in the
1:58:29
mouth, and we both have attended Bastrop and
1:58:31
Fredericksburg meetups, which were a blast.
1:58:33
I enjoyed meeting people I've heard reference on
1:58:35
the podcast, like Brian with an I and
1:58:38
Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.
1:58:39
By the way, I reject his attempts at
1:58:42
rebranding his handle by removing whore.
1:58:44
As a recovering dude named Ben, I found
1:58:47
the podcast index, which I also listen to
1:58:49
live on at 1x speed and only weekly.
1:58:57
I am amazed by the ability to bring
1:58:59
podcast education to the masses.
1:59:02
Keep a positive open source community moving together
1:59:05
is not easy.
1:59:06
Actually, with this community, it's pretty easy, because
1:59:08
people just want to keep speech free and
1:59:10
open.
1:59:10
I look forward to continuing fantastic content and
1:59:14
delaying any exit strategies.
1:59:16
And that's how he ends his note.
1:59:18
Well, thank you very much, Agent 99.
1:59:19
Appreciate it.
1:59:20
I'll see you at the round table.
1:59:23
Curiously, that's our only executive producer for today's
1:59:26
show.
1:59:27
The Jinxed Show 1714.
1:59:30
I think it was it.
1:59:31
What is the number?
1:59:32
1714.
1:59:35
But we do have Jesse.
1:59:38
What do you think?
1:59:42
In Lafayette, Colorado.
1:59:44
250.
1:59:45
And, whoops.
1:59:47
I pushed a down button, but the cursor
1:59:50
was someplace else, so it shot down to
1:59:52
the bottom of the screen.
1:59:53
I had to scroll back up.
1:59:55
Didn't take too long.
1:59:56
There it is.
1:59:56
Come on.
1:59:57
Get it together.
2:00:00
This is the trouble with these.
2:00:01
Here's a complaint of mine.
2:00:03
Is this about Excel?
2:00:04
You've got the little bar on the side
2:00:09
that you drag down the browser, right?
2:00:13
Mm-hmm.
2:00:14
So, you're dragging it down, dragging it down,
2:00:16
and then you move off center just a
2:00:18
little bit.
2:00:18
You get too far away from it.
2:00:19
It pops right back up to where you
2:00:20
began.
2:00:21
Yeah, you can disable that.
2:00:23
I think I've told you this many times.
2:00:25
Why doesn't it just leave it where you've
2:00:29
picked it up?
2:00:30
This is the snap feature, which you can
2:00:32
disable.
2:00:34
Yeah, where?
2:00:34
How?
2:00:35
Let's just move on, and I'll show you
2:00:36
again later.
2:00:38
Again?
2:00:39
Yes.
2:00:40
$250 from Jesse.
2:00:42
Dear John and Adam, I've been a long
2:00:43
-time listener.
2:00:43
This is my first donation.
2:00:45
De-douche, por favor.
2:00:46
Oh.
2:00:47
Hold on a second.
2:00:48
Sorry.
2:00:50
You've been de-douched.
2:00:53
I'm so grateful for your show in this
2:00:55
crazy world.
2:00:55
Thank you so much.
2:00:56
May I please get a Bitcoin jingle and
2:00:58
Jobs karma for those in search of the
2:01:00
next adventure.
2:01:01
Cheers, Jesse.
2:01:04
They're saying that all hell is going to
2:01:06
break loose, and you're going to need a
2:01:07
Bitcoin.
2:01:10
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:01:13
Let's vote for jobs.
2:01:15
You've got karma.
2:01:18
Jasmine McMahon, Temecula, California.
2:01:23
I think I'm saying that right.
2:01:25
Grove Ducks, 222.22. My son Ryan turned
2:01:28
nine on the 15th, and he needs to
2:01:30
be de-douche.
2:01:32
You've been de-douched.
2:01:34
Because, as Jasmine says, no son of mine
2:01:37
is going to walk around as a douche
2:01:39
bag.
2:01:39
Amen, mama.
2:01:41
We love you, buddy.
2:01:42
We pray that your amygdala forever stays small,
2:01:45
you forever sing no agenda jingles loudly, and
2:01:48
continue to be unbothered by the ruffling Democrat
2:01:51
feathers.
2:01:53
That's a mom right there.
2:01:56
Jingle request.
2:01:57
Trump, they're eating the pets, and Obama, no,
2:01:59
no, no, mariachi style, and mac and cheese.
2:02:02
Now, I was thinking about this, because she
2:02:07
didn't ask for eating the dogs.
2:02:10
She asked specifically for eating the pets, and
2:02:12
we do have that.
2:02:15
So, I figured I'd play that one.
2:02:17
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people
2:02:21
that came in.
2:02:21
They're eating the cats.
2:02:23
They're eating the pets.
2:02:26
Okay, you know what?
2:02:31
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:02:33
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:02:36
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
2:02:39
You slaves can get used to mac and
2:02:42
cheese.
2:02:44
Macaroni and cheese, cheddar melted together.
2:02:47
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and
2:02:49
cheese.
2:02:50
And she signs future Dame McMama of four
2:02:53
boys and a dog.
2:02:55
All right, right now We actually have the
2:02:57
second executive producer down here at 217 dollars
2:03:01
and 20 cents.
2:03:01
What?
2:03:01
Yes.
2:03:02
Why is he at 217?
2:03:04
How does he get the executive?
2:03:05
Well, sir, Richard, he's in Perth, Western, Australia
2:03:10
This is three hundred thirty three dollars and
2:03:12
thirty three cents of Aussie dollary dues from
2:03:14
Perth Give me your most potent jobs karma
2:03:17
and a 33 magic number love is lit
2:03:20
sir Richard of the lands down under right
2:03:23
and we still to this day recognize Canadian
2:03:26
Australian and New Zealander dollary dues and dollar
2:03:30
rates as As valid for executive producership.
2:03:34
So sir Richard, so be our second executive
2:03:37
producer for episode 1714 Oh
2:03:57
You wanted a potent one Eli the coffee
2:03:59
guy Bensonville, Illinois is next and I am
2:04:02
enjoying my coffee today Yeah, how much does
2:04:06
you have?
2:04:07
I had Six because my sixth cup my
2:04:11
six and final Wow No wonder.
2:04:16
What do you mean, no wonder?
2:04:18
Nothing, nothing, never mind.
2:04:19
I don't want to get on your bad
2:04:21
side with six cups of coffee in you.
2:04:23
I want to wish my smoking, you know
2:04:25
what the problem is?
2:04:26
I have a dealer who oversupplies me.
2:04:28
That's the problem.
2:04:30
It's like, you know, coffee's not cheap.
2:04:33
No matter where you get it from.
2:04:34
Coffee's not cheap.
2:04:36
It should be.
2:04:37
Coffee's not cheap.
2:04:38
But when you got a dealer that supplies
2:04:40
you, like, oh, there's some more from Eli
2:04:42
the coffee guy.
2:04:42
Well, I'll have another cup.
2:04:45
I want to wish my smoking hot wife,
2:04:46
Jen, a happy birthday.
2:04:47
Wait, how are you making this coffee?
2:04:50
French press.
2:04:53
Okay.
2:04:54
Why?
2:04:55
Why?
2:04:56
Is that the incorrect way to do it?
2:04:58
No, you make it any way you want.
2:05:00
There's all kinds of ways of making coffee.
2:05:02
I really, I like French press.
2:05:04
I want to wish my smoking hot wife,
2:05:06
Jen, a happy birthday.
2:05:08
Cheers to another trip around the sun while
2:05:10
having fun.
2:05:10
She designs all of our bags, runs our
2:05:13
social media and web design, plus has a
2:05:15
full-time job, besides being a great wife
2:05:18
and a mother.
2:05:19
Wow.
2:05:20
You lucked out, brother.
2:05:21
What do you do with the business?
2:05:22
What do you do?
2:05:24
He just sends us a couple hundred bucks
2:05:26
and asks for plugs.
2:05:30
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com to see the great work
2:05:32
that Jen does and use code ITM20 at
2:05:34
checkout for 20% off your order.
2:05:36
Stay caffeinated.
2:05:38
Eli the coffee guy.
2:05:39
Yeah, she does good work.
2:05:41
She has a look about her designs that
2:05:44
looks super high-end.
2:05:46
It does.
2:05:47
It does.
2:05:47
It looks like you paid big money for
2:05:49
it, which is a big deal.
2:05:53
The Donnellys, meanwhile, up in, oh, this is
2:05:56
in Upland Moor in Great Britain.
2:06:01
Scotland.
2:06:02
Sorry, it's been a while since our last
2:06:04
donation, and we've increased our $11.11 monthly
2:06:08
donation to $33.33. We missed John's Zephyr
2:06:12
report.
2:06:13
Oh.
2:06:14
Yes.
2:06:14
Well, it's because the Zephyr goes by two
2:06:16
hours before the show starts now.
2:06:18
Yep.
2:06:18
Can you please hear the, can I please
2:06:20
hear the R2-D2 jingle from the, the
2:06:24
R2-D2 jingle from the Donnellys in Upland
2:06:28
Moor?
2:06:30
You've got it.
2:06:31
Upland Moor.
2:06:34
Karma.
2:06:35
You know, Tina and I were, we were
2:06:38
watching a movie, and we said, you know,
2:06:39
we should go to Scotland.
2:06:40
We were watching Highlands for the Holidays, a
2:06:45
Christmas movie.
2:06:47
Highlands for the Holidays.
2:06:48
Yeah, I haven't been to Scotland either.
2:06:49
They're supposed to have greens you've never seen
2:06:51
in your life.
2:06:52
Well, it looked really nice, particularly around Christmas
2:06:55
time.
2:06:55
We were thinking, you know, we should probably
2:06:57
go.
2:06:57
We should go visit.
2:06:58
Hey, you're not invited.
2:07:00
What's your problem?
2:07:01
Elizabeth in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, 21060.
2:07:06
Thank you for all you do.
2:07:08
I am only making an associate producer, executive
2:07:11
producer donation because an executive producer donation would
2:07:13
have been almost $500 Canadian, and I'm not
2:07:17
made of money.
2:07:17
Well, just so you know, no, 300 Canadian.
2:07:21
We recognize your money as equal to our
2:07:25
money.
2:07:25
I don't know why, but we love you.
2:07:27
We did it because we felt sorry for
2:07:29
you.
2:07:29
And it's not been to our benefit, but
2:07:32
we love you.
2:07:34
I'm hoping for Jobs Karma for my daughter.
2:07:36
It hasn't hurt us either.
2:07:37
No, it hasn't hurt us.
2:07:39
We're hoping for Jobs Karma for my daughter,
2:07:41
who has run up against the worst job
2:07:42
market since she graduated with her comp sci
2:07:45
degree and F cancer for a dear soul
2:07:47
who I just found out has been battling
2:07:49
cancer for months, but is too humble to
2:07:52
be telling everyone.
2:07:53
So I thought I should.
2:07:55
Oh, no, I think he should.
2:07:56
There you go.
2:07:57
I want to thank you for the show.
2:07:58
I started listening after COVID, but you have
2:07:59
definitely saved my nerves.
2:08:01
I would have been one of those ladies
2:08:02
stockpiling beans because I was afraid of the
2:08:05
grid going down at any moment.
2:08:06
God bless you both.
2:08:07
And all the producers from Elizabeth.
2:08:14
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:08:17
Let's vote for jobs.
2:08:23
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
2:08:26
There she is 200 bucks as usual.
2:08:28
And she's asked for Jobs Karma surprisingly enough
2:08:32
and says for a winning resume and faster
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job search, go to image makers Inc.
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Dot com.
2:08:37
That's image makers Inc.
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With a K and work with Linda Lou
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Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes.
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Your go to for all your executive resume
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and job search needs jobs, jobs, jobs, and
2:08:50
jobs.
2:08:51
Let's vote for jobs.
2:08:53
Karma.
2:08:56
Now, do you want to do this one
2:08:58
and I'll do the note or I get
2:09:00
the note in front of me.
2:09:01
Okay.
2:09:01
Sherry Greenhouse, Sarasota, Florida, $200.
2:09:04
Thank you, Sherry.
2:09:05
Managing partner of CRM exchange with an X,
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a leading media platform dedicated to enhancing the
2:09:11
customer experience inspired by the value for value
2:09:13
model popularized by no agenda.
2:09:16
We introduced a similar program tailored for CRM
2:09:19
customer relationship management and contact center vendors new
2:09:23
to the industry with a few key stipulations.
2:09:26
We offered these vendors a seat at one
2:09:28
of our four, one of our online round
2:09:30
tables.
2:09:31
In return, we asked them to contribute based
2:09:33
on the value they received measured by the
2:09:36
number of contacts gained through their participation.
2:09:39
We plan to continue this invitation in 2025
2:09:41
fostering growth and collaboration within the industry.
2:09:45
Sherry, keep us updated.
2:09:47
That's fantastic.
2:09:48
I love the idea.
2:09:49
More people should try that and I'll bet
2:09:51
you're doing better than you would have expected.
2:09:53
So, let us know.
2:09:54
Sherry Greenhouse.
2:09:55
Thank you, Sherry.
2:09:56
Kim Killian in New Hudson, Michigan.
2:10:00
And she wrote, this came in as a
2:10:01
check.
2:10:02
She wrote a note, site data view.
2:10:05
Donation, $200.
2:10:06
Hello, no agenda.
2:10:07
Thank you for your show and the information
2:10:09
you share as a donation for you along
2:10:12
with my donation.
2:10:13
Another one.
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For all your SQL server database needs, call
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on site data view.
2:10:20
We are an expert at, oh, this is
2:10:22
why you wanted to read it.
2:10:23
I told you.
2:10:24
Well, I'm sorry.
2:10:25
I missed the cue.
2:10:27
Yep.
2:10:28
We are an expert at translating your unique
2:10:30
business needs.
2:10:31
Now, this is ad copy that's a little
2:10:35
too long, I think, is what we determined
2:10:38
before the show.
2:10:39
When I saw it, hold on a second,
2:10:42
let me bring it up.
2:10:44
When I saw it, it's on site data
2:10:45
view letterhead, no agenda show slash Jay Dvorak,
2:10:49
read donation $200.
2:10:51
And it says, hello, no agenda, which to
2:10:54
me is like, thank you for your show
2:10:57
and the information you share.
2:11:00
So, you think this may have been written
2:11:02
by a machine?
2:11:03
Well, I'm thinking more like someone is out
2:11:06
there saying, hey, you can get a cheap
2:11:08
ad with these guys if you just say
2:11:10
that you like their show and then give
2:11:11
them your ad copy.
2:11:14
That's what I was thinking.
2:11:16
I can see somebody thinking that because it
2:11:19
is pretty, I would say, I would say
2:11:21
this is a very impersonal note from Kim.
2:11:24
Hello, no agenda.
2:11:26
Yeah, hello, no agenda and thank you for
2:11:28
your show and the information you share, which
2:11:31
is something you will run into in a
2:11:34
canned note from a PR company.
2:11:36
Yes.
2:11:36
For example.
2:11:39
And so we're on to you.
2:11:42
Maybe.
2:11:43
But the point is, she just sent it
2:11:45
in.
2:11:45
So, you can get a hold of this
2:11:48
operation if you want to.
2:11:49
Okay.
2:11:50
Because they do SQL server stuff, which is
2:11:52
some people need.
2:11:54
And it's under www.SiteDataView.com.
2:12:00
SiteDataView.com.
2:12:01
So, she got her ad in.
2:12:02
Yes.
2:12:04
But we were suspicious.
2:12:05
We're expert at translating your unique business needs
2:12:09
into well-structured database solutions.
2:12:11
Whoa.
2:12:12
We need some database solutions.
2:12:15
Now, if she could, like Eli the Coffee
2:12:17
Guy, send us some database solutions, we'd be
2:12:20
a little more susceptible to this note.
2:12:23
This is true.
2:12:23
Yes, yes.
2:12:24
One of the background tasks that is kind
2:12:30
of interesting is the subtle, I don't want
2:12:33
to use the word bribe.
2:12:34
No.
2:12:35
Please don't.
2:12:36
But Eli the Coffee Guy does supply the
2:12:38
two of us with, every month or every
2:12:41
two months, probably four pounds of coffee.
2:12:44
Oh, yeah.
2:12:45
Each.
2:12:46
He's got to be taking a hit from
2:12:48
what he's sending us.
2:12:49
There's no doubt.
2:12:50
I don't know how expensive it is to
2:12:51
get coffee.
2:12:51
Well, we don't know one way or the
2:12:52
other.
2:12:52
No.
2:12:53
But, I mean, he could be making money
2:12:55
hands.
2:12:56
It could be Maxwell House in front of
2:12:58
the whole operation for all we know.
2:13:00
We don't know.
2:13:01
We never met him.
2:13:03
So.
2:13:05
That's funny.
2:13:06
And, yes, so there's that.
2:13:09
So there's a little more personal, something more
2:13:13
personable.
2:13:14
This idea does work.
2:13:16
You can get your ad copy read, but
2:13:18
it has to be a little better.
2:13:19
Yeah.
2:13:20
And send us some database solutions so we
2:13:22
can talk about it on the show.
2:13:24
That's what I need is a database solution.
2:13:27
Exactly.
2:13:27
We all need more database solutions.
2:13:29
Thank you very much.
2:13:32
Including site trade view.
2:13:34
Is that what it is?
2:13:35
Site trade view.
2:13:40
There you go.
2:13:40
Thank you all to our executive producers.
2:13:42
We have two of them.
2:13:43
And our associate executive producers.
2:13:45
We will thank everybody who came in over
2:13:47
$50 in our second segment.
2:13:49
We really do appreciate it.
2:13:50
Time, talent, or treasure.
2:13:51
That is the no agenda way we've been
2:13:53
doing it for, well, we're now in our
2:13:54
17th year.
2:13:56
And we can't imagine doing it any other
2:13:58
way.
2:13:58
Congratulations to our execs and our associate executive
2:14:01
producers for episode 1714.
2:14:04
Our formula is this.
2:14:06
We go out.
2:14:07
We hit people in the mouth.
2:14:21
So, you know, all industries, noagendadonations.com.
2:14:25
By the way, I should probably mention that.
2:14:27
noagendadonations.com.
2:14:28
Three times and you'll remember it for the
2:14:29
rest of your life.
2:14:30
noagendadonations.com.
2:14:33
So, industry is freaked out.
2:14:35
They're freaked out about what Trump is bringing
2:14:37
in, especially RFK Jr. What are we going
2:14:39
to do?
2:14:39
What's pharma going to do?
2:14:41
What's food going to do?
2:14:42
Food lobby is gearing up, by the way.
2:14:44
They're getting ready.
2:14:45
They're getting into the fight with RFK Jr.
2:14:48
Presuming that he gets confirmed and, God forbid,
2:14:52
that he lives.
2:14:54
He stays healthy.
2:14:57
I pray for his safety.
2:14:58
I'm telling you.
2:14:59
This guy is going to be the most
2:15:00
hated man in corporate America.
2:15:03
Well, in parts of corporate America.
2:15:06
In important parts.
2:15:07
The ones that pay for media, you know?
2:15:11
Yes.
2:15:12
Well, that's important to old media.
2:15:16
Yes.
2:15:16
Well, exactly.
2:15:17
Not the podcasters.
2:15:18
Not us.
2:15:19
No, no.
2:15:20
Can you imagine that?
2:15:22
If Novo Nordisk sent us some Wigovi and
2:15:26
it had a note.
2:15:27
We love your show.
2:15:29
We love your show.
2:15:30
Dear No Agenda, we love your show and
2:15:32
we love what you do.
2:15:34
Instead, they've got a new gambit going on.
2:15:37
Here comes the native ad.
2:15:39
Here's the promotion on NBC.
2:15:40
Well, now to some surprising health news this
2:15:43
morning.
2:15:43
Turns out, more than half of the nation's
2:15:46
adults are eligible for the wildly popular weight
2:15:49
loss drugs, Ozempic and Wigovi.
2:15:51
According to a new study from JAMA Cardiology,
2:15:53
about 140 million could be candidates for the
2:15:57
drugs.
2:15:57
NBC medical contributor Dr. Natalie Azar joins us
2:16:00
now to break it down.
2:16:01
That's a whole lot of folks watching and
2:16:03
listening right now.
2:16:04
What are the qualifications, Dr. Nat, to be
2:16:06
considered?
2:16:06
Yeah, so if we break that down, of
2:16:08
that 137 million, about 129 million people would
2:16:13
be eligible to manage.
2:16:15
Hold on a second.
2:16:15
Stop it.
2:16:17
This is half the population.
2:16:19
Yep.
2:16:20
Who are they kidding with this?
2:16:23
Hey, it's science.
2:16:25
OK, science.
2:16:27
It's study.
2:16:28
It's science.
2:16:29
It's research.
2:16:30
You cannot go against science.
2:16:33
Break that down.
2:16:33
Of that 137 million, about 129 million people
2:16:39
would be eligible to manage their weight, about
2:16:42
35 million to manage diabetes, and about 8
2:16:45
.9 million people to manage heart disease.
2:16:49
These numbers really are staggering.
2:16:51
And you know what?
2:16:52
137 million, that is more people that are
2:16:54
eligible for statins, which, as we know, are
2:16:57
just almost ubiquitous because of their dramatic risk
2:17:01
reduction in heart disease.
2:17:02
And this comes at a very timely moment
2:17:05
for us because just last week there was
2:17:07
a report that showed that about 75%
2:17:12
of Americans are either overweight or obese.
2:17:15
And in 1990, that number was just over
2:17:17
50%.
2:17:18
And the estimate is that 80% of
2:17:20
people are going to be so by 2050.
2:17:23
So this is definitely one of those wake
2:17:25
-up calls to say, wow, a lot of
2:17:26
people are definitely eligible for this medicine.
2:17:28
Eligible for this medicine?
2:17:30
Right there, the reporter that's given this native
2:17:33
ad, he says, well, gee, it seems that
2:17:35
we're getting fatter and fatter and fatter.
2:17:37
Why do you think that is?
2:17:39
Does he do that?
2:17:40
He does that, yes.
2:17:40
He does because of our other sponsor, McDonald's.
2:17:43
Come on.
2:17:43
It's obvious.
2:17:44
So the big question, who's going to pay
2:17:47
for it?
2:17:47
Well, does that mean that insurance has to
2:17:49
cover?
2:17:49
Because these are very expensive medicines.
2:17:51
They are very expensive, and that is the
2:17:53
rub, Savannah.
2:17:53
So if we're talking about commercial insurance, yeah,
2:17:56
there's a little bit more wiggle room there
2:17:58
in terms of covering for weight management.
2:18:00
But take a look at how Medicare covers
2:18:02
this.
2:18:03
It is covered for diabetes.
2:18:04
It's covered for what's called secondary prevention for
2:18:07
heart disease.
2:18:08
So if you're overweight or obese and you've
2:18:10
had a heart attack or a stroke, for
2:18:11
example, they will cover it.
2:18:13
But Medicare does not cover it for weight
2:18:15
loss management alone.
2:18:16
We have spent a lot of time on
2:18:18
our air talking about this.
2:18:19
I have patients who are about to turn
2:18:21
65 and are doing really well in these
2:18:23
medicines, and they already know that they probably
2:18:25
won't be able to get it covered by
2:18:26
Medicare.
2:18:27
So, again, it's studies like this that we
2:18:29
hope will definitely move the needle on coverage.
2:18:31
It's definitely something that's super important.
2:18:34
We need more studies.
2:18:36
Stop the clip.
2:18:37
More studies like this.
2:18:38
I want to know the logic of what
2:18:40
she just said.
2:18:40
She said, I have a bunch of patients
2:18:43
who are getting this drug, and then they're
2:18:46
going to be 65 and go to Medicare.
2:18:49
Now they're not going to get the drug
2:18:50
anymore.
2:18:50
Well, you can keep your old insurance.
2:18:53
There's all these other plans.
2:18:54
What's she talking about?
2:18:56
If you're affording it now...
2:18:57
You really need me to spell it out?
2:19:00
If you can afford...
2:19:01
Wait, let me try to psychically figure out
2:19:04
what you're going to tell me.
2:19:05
They're trying to soak the government for this
2:19:09
stuff.
2:19:09
Correct.
2:19:11
And she even says at the end how
2:19:14
exciting it is.
2:19:16
65 and are doing really well in these
2:19:17
medicines, and they already know that they probably
2:19:20
won't be able to get it covered by
2:19:21
Medicare.
2:19:22
So, again, it's studies like this that we
2:19:24
hope will definitely move the needle on coverage.
2:19:26
It's definitely something that's super important.
2:19:28
Thank you, Dr. Nettle.
2:19:29
Thank you.
2:19:30
Thank you so much.
2:19:30
Super important.
2:19:31
What disgusting network was this on?
2:19:34
NBC.
2:19:36
NBC.
2:19:37
Yeah.
2:19:38
And they're doing these studies.
2:19:41
This is another thing RFKJ, as we call
2:19:43
them now, RFKJ is going after is, you
2:19:46
know, RICO for these studies and for the
2:19:48
medical journals and all this nonsense.
2:19:50
Can you play that clip again?
2:19:52
Can you find it?
2:19:53
That was the third clip in the series
2:19:54
that you played in the last show where
2:19:56
you kind of go after these journals, which
2:20:00
are just corrupt.
2:20:01
Here it is.
2:20:01
In fact, we had a...
2:20:03
Here it is.
2:20:03
I have the clip.
2:20:05
You ask, we play.
2:20:05
And, you know, also, I'll bring all the
2:20:09
medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine,
2:20:13
the Lancet, JAMA, into the Justice Department as
2:20:19
soon as I appoint an AG.
2:20:21
And I'll say to them, you guys are
2:20:23
part of a racketeering syndicate.
2:20:25
You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry.
2:20:29
A lie to the American public about the
2:20:31
efficacy and safety of these products.
2:20:33
And you're causing enormous harm.
2:20:34
And we are going to sue you both
2:20:36
civilly for damages.
2:20:38
And we're going to sue you criminally unless
2:20:39
you come up with a plan right now
2:20:42
as to how you're going to stop doing
2:20:43
that.
2:20:43
So, I have, like, I have 100 things
2:20:46
that I'm going to do immediately.
2:20:51
Yeah.
2:20:52
Yep.
2:20:53
Beer for his life.
2:20:54
Yeah, I do.
2:20:55
I do.
2:20:56
I...
2:20:57
Yeah.
2:20:57
Because nobody's really got a plan to go
2:21:00
after these guys.
2:21:01
And everyone's freaking out with all the bad
2:21:03
information.
2:21:05
You know, they're smearing him left and right.
2:21:07
It's ridiculous.
2:21:08
Of course.
2:21:11
So...
2:21:11
He's got a lot of supporters, though, including
2:21:13
McCullough.
2:21:13
I'm a supporter.
2:21:14
Are you kidding me?
2:21:16
I'm all in on RFKJ.
2:21:18
We've always liked the guy.
2:21:19
RFKJ.
2:21:21
So, we were talking earlier...
2:21:22
He did that book on Fauci, the guy's
2:21:24
goal.
2:21:24
Yeah, that was great.
2:21:25
That was great.
2:21:27
We were talking about AI before the break.
2:21:29
And there's a new term, which I'd not
2:21:31
heard of, called AI pimping.
2:21:34
Have you heard of AI pimping?
2:21:37
No.
2:21:38
This is influencers on Instagram, TikTok, etc., who
2:21:46
are using stolen images, is what the story
2:21:50
says, of real-life adult content creators, and
2:21:54
using it to hype up their profiles.
2:21:56
So, what's your LinkedIn fake handle?
2:22:00
What's her name again?
2:22:01
You have a female profile?
2:22:03
Becky.
2:22:03
Becky.
2:22:04
So, you could make Becky.
2:22:06
You could take a Scaramanga-type AI image
2:22:08
and make Becky an influencer.
2:22:11
And, first of all, make real money for
2:22:13
once.
2:22:14
Make real money for once.
2:22:17
Well, Becky has the potential.
2:22:19
Yeah.
2:22:20
And this is rampant.
2:22:22
And the adult content creators...
2:22:24
This is not a bad idea.
2:22:26
I already know where it's headed, where your
2:22:29
report's going.
2:22:29
And I think you might be onto something.
2:22:31
Oh, this is huge.
2:22:33
And this is another part of what's going
2:22:36
to take it all down.
2:22:36
This is going to create...
2:22:38
I think Darren O'Neill and I should
2:22:41
team up.
2:22:42
Yes.
2:22:43
We should bury the hatchet.
2:22:45
No.
2:22:46
God, no.
2:22:47
No.
2:22:47
You need to team up with Scaramanga.
2:22:49
He hates you.
2:22:50
So, you need to bury the hatchet.
2:22:51
Oh, Scaramanga would be...
2:22:52
Yeah.
2:22:53
Well, he...
2:22:53
Yeah.
2:22:54
And have him bring Becky to life.
2:22:57
Yeah.
2:22:57
Becky would have a profile on LinkedIn that
2:23:01
won't quit.
2:23:03
And, by the way, you can be an
2:23:05
influencer on LinkedIn.
2:23:07
There's money there.
2:23:10
Yeah, but I think you want to move
2:23:11
Becky to only fans and...
2:23:14
There you go.
2:23:15
One of the later ones, the newest one,
2:23:17
is Strip Chat.
2:23:18
You should check that out.
2:23:19
Sorry, John.
2:23:20
I'm busy getting clips for the show.
2:23:23
I don't know what you're doing.
2:23:24
Strip Chat?
2:23:24
Well, I'm looking for clips for the show
2:23:26
on Strip Chat.
2:23:27
I haven't found any.
2:23:28
Strip Chat.
2:23:31
Remember Chat Roulette?
2:23:33
Do you remember Chat Roulette?
2:23:34
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
2:23:36
Okay, for those who are not...
2:23:37
Gross.
2:23:38
...to remember Chat Roulette.
2:23:39
Chat Roulette, you hook up your Logitech cam.
2:23:42
Gross.
2:23:42
Your little ball cam, and you plug it
2:23:46
into your computer, and do, you know, like
2:23:48
five frames a second.
2:23:50
And this Chat Roulette was a program that
2:23:52
you ran on your computer, and it would
2:23:54
just connect you randomly to a different person,
2:23:56
and then you could either decide to stay
2:23:59
on that person or just let it roulette
2:24:02
around to the next one.
2:24:04
And guaranteed within eight twists of the wheel,
2:24:09
there was some naked, hairy dude masturbating.
2:24:12
What?
2:24:13
Two.
2:24:15
Eight.
2:24:15
Every single time, you're like, Chat Roulette is
2:24:18
cool.
2:24:18
Oh, what did I just see?
2:24:20
I can't unsee it.
2:24:24
So what is Strip Chat?
2:24:26
What does it do?
2:24:28
It's a, it looks, I couldn't, I just
2:24:31
ran into it by accident.
2:24:34
It seems to be a competitor...
2:24:37
Accident.
2:24:37
With OnlyFans.
2:24:39
Oops, how did that happen?
2:24:43
Yeah, what?
2:24:44
What?
2:24:44
I don't understand.
2:24:45
There's gambling?
2:24:46
I don't understand.
2:24:48
And so it seems to be a competitor
2:24:51
with Snapchat, and it might be something that...
2:24:53
No, not Snapchat, you said OnlyFans.
2:24:55
Something for Becky to think about.
2:24:57
OnlyFans, you said, not Snapchat, OnlyFans.
2:25:00
Oh, I'm sorry, yes, you're right.
2:25:02
OnlyFans.
2:25:03
I'm telling you.
2:25:05
And there was another thing, I think this
2:25:07
came up, because there's a black guy that
2:25:09
has been putting up, and I think this
2:25:12
is on Instagram or it's on TikTok, it's
2:25:14
hard to say because I pick it up
2:25:16
off of Twitter.
2:25:18
This black guy has been interviewing or picking
2:25:21
up interviews done by these exotic dancers.
2:25:26
And I mean, I would have clipped some
2:25:28
of this stuff if I could, but it
2:25:29
was these exotic dancers singing the blues.
2:25:31
Some of them are kind of pretty.
2:25:35
I mean, they're like good-looking girls, and
2:25:36
they're singing the blues about, oh, the economy's
2:25:40
in the tank, nobody's going to strip clubs
2:25:42
anymore.
2:25:42
And it goes on and on and on
2:25:44
about nobody going to strip clubs.
2:25:46
And I'm thinking about this.
2:25:48
Strip clubs have got to have been a
2:25:50
fad to begin with, because I'm old enough
2:25:52
to remember, and you probably aren't old enough
2:25:54
to remember, topless bars, which had taken over
2:25:58
California back in the day during the Condor
2:26:01
era when Carol Doda had popularized it and
2:26:05
it became legal to walk around topless in
2:26:08
a bar.
2:26:09
These weren't strip clubs.
2:26:11
These were just bars, and all the waitresses
2:26:14
had no tops on, and it was very
2:26:17
common.
2:26:18
You were going to say it was dynamite.
2:26:19
I heard you were about to say it
2:26:21
was dynamite.
2:26:22
It was dynamite.
2:26:23
And that was like, all of a sudden,
2:26:28
boom, gone.
2:26:29
I think strip clubs are doomed.
2:26:32
So this, of course, Becky does not have
2:26:36
to take her clothes off.
2:26:38
Becky can just be Becky.
2:26:39
You do the writing, Scaramanga does the photos,
2:26:43
and you just have to do a day
2:26:44
in life.
2:26:45
Oh, good morning, everybody.
2:26:47
Becky's in her nightie, just getting out of
2:26:49
bed.
2:26:49
We can find a good voice.
2:26:52
We can have her talking.
2:26:54
Dame Jennifer.
2:26:56
No, no, we can use 11 Labs.
2:26:58
Oh, you don't want to cut her in
2:27:00
on the action, huh?
2:27:01
You just want to give it, okay, all
2:27:02
right.
2:27:03
Well, maybe she's got a good voice.
2:27:04
Sorry, Jen.
2:27:05
We'll cut her in.
2:27:06
We've got a Silicon Valley mentality.
2:27:09
Cut her in.
2:27:14
Anyway, this is happening.
2:27:16
You're actually probably a little late to the
2:27:17
game, and it is fulfilling.
2:27:19
Yes, this is the drawback.
2:27:20
It is fulfilling my prayers, which has been
2:27:22
to take down the digital towers of Babel
2:27:24
and fill their stairwells with AI slops so
2:27:27
they become unattractive to use, and this will
2:27:29
happen to every social media network.
2:27:32
They will just be filled with unbelievably pretty
2:27:35
women.
2:27:37
Yeah, that don't exist.
2:27:38
That don't exist, and it's going to suck.
2:27:44
And hopefully, and by the way, you could
2:27:47
make Becky trans and put her on Blue
2:27:49
Sky.
2:27:50
You'd probably corner the market.
2:27:52
I'm just telling you.
2:27:53
Again, I don't have a Blue Sky account.
2:27:57
I've never been there, but again, the Twitterverse
2:28:00
is grabbing these clips from Blue Sky and
2:28:03
reposting them, and some of the trans women
2:28:05
that are on there are just horrible.
2:28:09
Well, I don't know what your reference point
2:28:11
is.
2:28:12
Oh, my God.
2:28:14
Let's move on to another huge issue, this
2:28:17
time not in the pornographic sense, but in
2:28:20
the jobs market, there are some real problems
2:28:23
with AI and the job bots.
2:28:26
There's a new generation of AI job applier
2:28:31
apps.
2:28:32
So you go to a site, you upload
2:28:33
your resume, you give it some keywords, and
2:28:35
then it scans for the job boards.
2:28:38
It sees, oh, this position just got posted.
2:28:40
It adds the keywords from that job posting
2:28:43
onto your resume.
2:28:45
It writes a chat GPT-4 cover letter
2:28:47
for you, and it submits it on your
2:28:49
behalf, and so you end up with this
2:28:51
thing where this job gets posted.
2:28:53
It has been online for an hour, and
2:28:56
it's got 500 applications already, and none of
2:28:59
the 500 people that actually applied to it
2:29:01
have any idea that they actually applied to
2:29:03
it.
2:29:03
And so if a real person actually wants
2:29:06
to get in and try to apply for
2:29:09
that job, they're swamped in all of this
2:29:11
AI-generated garbage.
2:29:12
And the other thing that's really sad is
2:29:15
most companies now, and the more resumes they
2:29:17
get, the more likely they are to do
2:29:18
this, use AI bots to screen resumes and
2:29:22
make sure they have all the right keywords
2:29:23
and they have all the right cover letters
2:29:25
and all that kind of stuff.
2:29:27
And then the AI will rank the people
2:29:29
that applied, and it turns out that the
2:29:33
bots that auto-apply for the jobs train
2:29:37
themselves on the software that you can buy
2:29:39
that screens resumes.
2:29:40
And so it's a lot better at making
2:29:42
cover letters and making resumes that pass through
2:29:46
the screen of the AI screener bot.
2:29:50
So it's even harder for a real person
2:29:52
to actually get their resume in front of
2:29:53
a real person these days.
2:29:55
So we've got AI bots training on AI
2:29:57
bots, talking to AI bots, and it's a
2:30:01
losing proposition.
2:30:03
Once these AI companies start charging what it
2:30:06
actually costs, this will all go away.
2:30:09
But they're stuck in that loop.
2:30:10
They're stuck in the Silicon Valley loop of,
2:30:13
get audience, who cares?
2:30:14
Well, the Silicon Valley loops, that all began
2:30:17
with what was called, back in the 70s
2:30:21
and then 80s, what was called the learning
2:30:23
curve.
2:30:24
And that's what evolved into get eyeballs.
2:30:29
But the learning curve was developed by the
2:30:31
hard disk companies, who saw that these hard
2:30:36
disks were going to increase in capacity every
2:30:38
year, they're going to double every year.
2:30:40
So they priced them out for like two
2:30:44
years from now.
2:30:44
So every disk that you bought was losing
2:30:48
money, because down the road, they're going to
2:30:51
make all this money.
2:30:52
And it was called the learning curve specifically.
2:30:55
And that is the genesis for this eyeball
2:30:59
idea, where just keep getting eyeballs, eventually you'll
2:31:02
do okay.
2:31:03
Which was the basis for YouTube TV, and
2:31:06
it was the basis for Twitter, and all
2:31:08
the rest of them.
2:31:09
So the theory does work.
2:31:12
Well, no.
2:31:12
But it breaks most people.
2:31:14
It doesn't really work, because Twitter never really
2:31:17
did all that well, as a profit generator.
2:31:21
No, but it made somebody money.
2:31:23
And podcasting, meh.
2:31:26
You know, Spotify spent a billion dollars on
2:31:29
that concept.
2:31:30
Don't worry, we'll just get a whole bunch
2:31:31
of Hollywood stars, and we'll make them exclusive.
2:31:34
I know, I read that article too, you
2:31:36
said it to me.
2:31:37
The beauty.
2:31:37
Did not work.
2:31:39
So, it does not necessarily work.
2:31:42
And now, they're stuck between a rock and
2:31:44
a hard place, because they need to keep
2:31:46
brazing money to make the models better, you
2:31:49
know, which costs a hundred billion dollars a
2:31:51
model, starting choice, right?
2:31:53
Well, nobody's going to argue with you about
2:31:56
the fact that these things...
2:31:58
The problem you have with your argument is
2:32:00
that if it costs 50 bucks to make
2:32:03
one of these pieces of art, using the
2:32:05
computer and AI, and you're getting it for
2:32:08
free, you're not going to discourage people from
2:32:11
using it, you're going to make, wow, let
2:32:12
me get it while I can.
2:32:14
I'm going to get a free...
2:32:15
You know, I'm saving money.
2:32:16
They're shipping money with every piece of art
2:32:19
that they put on our art generators.
2:32:21
Probably a thousand dollars worth of art.
2:32:23
Yeah, but there's a couple other things here.
2:32:25
We have the entropy equation, because they're out
2:32:28
of content.
2:32:30
What they're doing now, the AI companies, are
2:32:32
now going to open captions, opencaptions.org, I
2:32:37
think, which is community-driven captions for movies
2:32:41
and television series, and they're now scraping all
2:32:45
of that, so guess how stuff is going
2:32:47
to sound when it's using movie scripts to
2:32:51
talk...
2:32:52
It's going to sound like a movie script.
2:32:53
Everything's going to sound like a movie script
2:32:55
or a Seinfeld episode, and it's not going
2:32:58
to improve, yet it costs more money, and
2:33:02
they need more energy continuously, and they're not
2:33:05
charging people for it.
2:33:06
So the equation is off.
2:33:08
You've taught me that Silicon Valley, it's always
2:33:11
the opposite direction.
2:33:13
We'll get the people now, it's expensive, but
2:33:16
as we move along, it'll draw less power,
2:33:18
it'll have higher output, it'll produce less heat,
2:33:22
and this is the opposite.
2:33:23
It's bound to fail.
2:33:26
Not once it starts producing more power with
2:33:28
less energy, blah, blah, blah, but yeah, we
2:33:32
haven't seen that.
2:33:33
I mean, generally speaking, Silicon Valley's based on
2:33:38
kind of a deflation model, which is always
2:33:42
surprising me.
2:33:43
Everything gets cheaper and faster and better, but
2:33:47
cheaper is the key to this whole thing,
2:33:49
and if it's not going to turn the
2:33:51
corner at some point and become cheaper and
2:33:54
faster, then it's violating the model and it
2:33:57
will fail.
2:33:57
Thank you.
2:34:00
And even people who had a great model
2:34:02
all figured out they're destined for problems too.
2:34:05
Hey, unless they can tell me who that
2:34:06
blonde's sitting there next to the podium.
2:34:08
These things are crap.
2:34:10
Punishing news for Google.
2:34:11
Yeah, we now know the specifics of the
2:34:14
U.S. government's line of attack on Alphabet,
2:34:17
Google's parent company, in the biggest antitrust trial
2:34:21
of this century.
2:34:22
The Justice Department has filed for the tech
2:34:24
giant to separate from its Chrome browser.
2:34:28
You probably use it regularly, along with three
2:34:30
and a half billion people globally.
2:34:32
It's also asked the D.C. federal judge
2:34:35
dealing with the case to warn Google that
2:34:37
if monopolistic misconduct continues, it should lose its
2:34:41
Android mobile phone operating system as well.
2:34:45
It all revolves around Google Search.
2:34:47
In August, the judge ruled that Alphabet had
2:34:50
maintained an illegal monopoly over how we search
2:34:53
the internet, reaping massive rewards from advertising as
2:34:57
a result.
2:34:58
Google's now hoping that the antitrust lawsuit goes
2:35:00
the same way as Microsoft's did in the
2:35:02
early 2000s.
2:35:03
That was thrown out on appeal.
2:35:05
But with the U.S. changing administrations, if
2:35:07
anyone tells you they know what's going to
2:35:10
happen, don't listen.
2:35:12
So this is interesting.
2:35:14
You know, Google has full control over most
2:35:16
of the browser market with Chrome.
2:35:19
Spinning that off, how would that change things?
2:35:23
I mean, will that really change things?
2:35:24
This is kind of your corner.
2:35:29
Well, if they're going to spin it off,
2:35:30
they're going to end up keeping a piece
2:35:32
of it, like NBC or like Comcast is
2:35:34
going to do with SpinSyn or whatever the
2:35:37
hell the thing is called.
2:35:38
I said it earlier.
2:35:41
SpinCo.
2:35:42
SpinCo.
2:35:46
So they'll keep a piece of it.
2:35:47
It might actually make the company more valuable.
2:35:49
But I'm almost of the opinion that they
2:35:52
want to get rid of Chrome because they've
2:35:55
got these browser deals with everybody else, including...
2:36:00
Apple, iPhone.
2:36:01
iPhone, yeah.
2:36:02
Which is also under scrutiny, I believe.
2:36:04
It's a search deal.
2:36:06
Yeah.
2:36:08
And they seem to be...
2:36:09
Somebody told me this about a year ago,
2:36:11
saying, you know, you're kidding yourself if you
2:36:13
think that the future of Google is search
2:36:15
because they're dropping the ball on it anyway.
2:36:18
Oh, it's AI.
2:36:20
No, it's not AI.
2:36:21
It's data.
2:36:21
Selling data.
2:36:22
Yeah.
2:36:23
Well, they've been doing that.
2:36:24
And they've been doing that, and that's where
2:36:25
their real money is to be made.
2:36:28
And so, I don't know.
2:36:29
I really don't know.
2:36:30
I think the browser has always been...
2:36:32
Well, the Android apps, I think that's really...
2:36:35
If they had to give up Android...
2:36:36
That would be a big deal.
2:36:37
Yeah, I think that may be on deck.
2:36:39
That may be on deck.
2:36:40
That is a big deal because Android is
2:36:43
the market leader in the world.
2:36:45
There's no competitions come up.
2:36:48
You'd think something would have showed up by
2:36:49
now, but no.
2:36:50
And they can track everything through Android.
2:36:52
They track how you're holding the phone, if
2:36:55
you're walking the dog, if you're pooping, everything.
2:36:58
If you're reading in bed.
2:36:59
Yeah, it's worth money.
2:37:02
So, I have a question for you that
2:37:04
I've been racking my brain.
2:37:05
I can't figure it out.
2:37:08
Probably about a year ago, we talked about
2:37:11
Pegasus, the Pegasus spyware, which is the competitor
2:37:17
to the Israeli Paragon.
2:37:21
And Paragon got...
2:37:23
We had a couple of stories, I think
2:37:24
maybe even some clips, about...
2:37:27
And I think it was an executive order.
2:37:29
Biden said, Paragon is out.
2:37:33
And we can't have Paragon...
2:37:36
I'm going to make sure I'm saying it
2:37:37
right.
2:37:37
Was it Paragon?
2:37:42
Let me make sure I'm saying the right
2:37:44
one.
2:37:45
Yeah, no.
2:37:47
Yes, Paragon versus Pegasus.
2:37:51
And the Pegasus spyware was brought in by
2:38:00
the NSO group and was being sold into
2:38:05
the US government.
2:38:07
And that really happened between when Obama left
2:38:10
office and Trump came in for four years.
2:38:13
It was...
2:38:14
Remember Blinken and all those jimokes?
2:38:18
They had a lobbying firm, which was Mercury
2:38:24
something or other.
2:38:25
And they were the ones that were using
2:38:27
their contacts to bring in this Pegasus software
2:38:32
to get the Paragon stuff out.
2:38:35
And they had all these stories, oh, Paragon
2:38:37
killed...
2:38:39
It was on...
2:38:40
It was the reporters who got chopped up
2:38:43
at the embassy.
2:38:46
I don't know.
2:38:47
You remember the guy?
2:38:50
He was...
2:38:50
Khashoggi?
2:38:51
Khashoggi, yeah.
2:38:52
That, yes, that he had that spyware on
2:38:57
his phone.
2:38:58
And so we needed...
2:38:59
Yeah, that was the Pegasus stuff.
2:39:02
And so Paragon brought in...
2:39:04
They brought in venture capital guys.
2:39:07
They had, I think, Redpoint.
2:39:10
And they brought in this group that was
2:39:13
in DC who had just kind of left
2:39:15
the administration during Trump.
2:39:18
So there's this ongoing war about whose spyware
2:39:21
should we be worried about and whose spyware
2:39:24
should we have.
2:39:25
And so Pegasus is the one that is
2:39:30
the current Biden administration's darling.
2:39:35
But now we have Ronan Farrow.
2:39:39
Sorry, Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Farrow, who has a
2:39:43
documentary coming out on HBO about spyware, but
2:39:49
only really one side of it.
2:39:51
And he happened to...
2:39:52
It's the view, but it's not horrible from
2:39:54
the view.
2:39:55
It's more about Ronan.
2:39:57
Listen to how he's discrediting one over the
2:40:00
other, and let's see what we think the
2:40:01
play is here.
2:40:02
These cases affect 450 million people.
2:40:05
It's a violation of their rights.
2:40:07
What we ended up finding was actually the
2:40:11
tip of the iceberg.
2:40:13
Spyware is this powerful surveillance tool.
2:40:17
Big spyware companies say they sell this tech
2:40:19
only to governments.
2:40:21
But this multi-billion-dollar industry is mostly
2:40:24
unregulated.
2:40:25
The most advanced spyware can turn your smartphone
2:40:28
into a spy in your pocket.
2:40:30
It can copy everything and record you without
2:40:33
you ever knowing, and then just disappear without
2:40:37
a trace.
2:40:39
So, can you tell our audience a little
2:40:43
bit more about what you mean by spyware,
2:40:45
and is there a way for us to
2:40:47
protect ourselves, even in the most rudimentary way?
2:40:51
Well, the film is about spyware hacking technology
2:40:55
that can hijack your phone, in the way
2:40:57
you just heard about, sold by private companies
2:40:59
to either governments who want easier access.
2:41:02
You know, even in this government, not every
2:41:03
government office has the CIS technology.
2:41:05
It is.
2:41:06
So this means just more people...
2:41:07
What?
2:41:08
I said, okay.
2:41:09
You said it was some other pharaoh.
2:41:12
Ronan's full name is Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Pharaoh.
2:41:15
Oh, okay.
2:41:16
It's technology.
2:41:17
Right.
2:41:17
He's developing...
2:41:18
I just noticed this, but I heard him
2:41:21
the other day, too.
2:41:22
He's developing a lisp.
2:41:25
He is.
2:41:26
Good catch.
2:41:26
This government, not every government office has the
2:41:29
CIS technology.
2:41:30
Right.
2:41:30
So this means just more people can use
2:41:32
it around the world and here.
2:41:34
And the way to resist this is, there's
2:41:37
a few simple things.
2:41:38
Reboot your phone every day.
2:41:40
Really?
2:41:40
That's a big one, yeah.
2:41:41
Not every form of spyware is foiled by
2:41:43
this, but some are, including...
2:41:45
They always told us this at the Department
2:41:46
of Defense.
2:41:46
You mean turn it off and turn it
2:41:48
on again?
2:41:48
Yes.
2:41:48
Is that what you mean?
2:41:49
Yes, don't just leave your phone on all
2:41:50
the time.
2:41:51
The other thing is, this may sound obvious,
2:41:52
but keep your phone updated.
2:41:54
Uh-huh.
2:41:55
Okay, so...
2:41:56
All right.
2:41:56
So I'm already feeling, I'm smelling a rat
2:41:59
here.
2:41:59
I'm smelling a rat here.
2:42:00
He's already promised retribution against media, the media,
2:42:04
and journalists.
2:42:05
Do you think he'll use this spyware to
2:42:06
go...
2:42:06
Oh, no.
2:42:06
Now they're talking about Trump.
2:42:08
Yeah, now they're talking about Trump.
2:42:09
We have two people, including us.
2:42:10
I'll tell you, I've been talking to privacy
2:42:12
law experts all day, doing this new piece
2:42:14
that's coming out, and they all believe that
2:42:17
this is a moment where there could be
2:42:19
a free-for-all.
2:42:20
So that's where calling your reps can be
2:42:21
important right now.
2:42:22
They don't think the Fourth Amendment will hold
2:42:24
in terms of unreasonable search and seizure?
2:42:25
Can you explain what the Fourth Amendment is?
2:42:26
I think depending on who's running the Justice
2:42:28
Department...
2:42:28
The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution provides that
2:42:31
we should be safe and secure in our
2:42:33
papers, our effects, or our things from unreasonable
2:42:36
search and seizure, and that is government reach
2:42:38
into our private lives.
2:42:40
Well, the reality, Sunny, is that there have
2:42:42
been courts interpreting that, obviously, over the decades,
2:42:45
and what privacy advocates say is the case
2:42:48
law has really eroded how that principle applies
2:42:51
to data privacy specifically.
2:42:53
Now, there have been some rulings that are
2:42:54
more supportive of aggressive enforcement and some that
2:42:57
chip away at it.
2:42:58
There's a lot of loopholes, and what you
2:43:00
see in a lot of these Western democracies
2:43:02
where this has spiraled out of control is
2:43:03
you wind up with a situation where if
2:43:05
the judiciary or the executive branch is saying,
2:43:08
oh, there's some thin basis.
2:43:10
We came up with an excuse for retaliating
2:43:11
against a political enemy.
2:43:13
Suddenly, it's getting used against anyone that the
2:43:15
political people in power don't like.
2:43:17
And it's usually done under the guise of
2:43:18
national security.
2:43:19
Exactly that, and that's why the Department of
2:43:20
Homeland Security and ICE purchasing this tech that
2:43:23
I've been writing about from another company called
2:43:26
Paragon is frightening because what the experts say
2:43:29
is DHS is often the place where they
2:43:31
acquire controversial technology that's a little legally questionable
2:43:34
and then use it with the excuse of
2:43:36
national security.
2:43:37
Yes.
2:43:38
Oh, my gosh.
2:43:39
Oh, my gosh.
2:43:41
So, he's discrediting Paragon versus Pegasus.
2:43:45
Ronan, what's our government's responsibility in terms of
2:43:48
having access to this technology while also protecting
2:43:50
the rights of our fellow citizens, and what
2:43:53
are they doing about this?
2:43:54
Well, the answer is not enough.
2:43:57
So, in response to a print story that
2:43:59
you see me do in this film, the
2:44:02
Biden administration did pass an executive order saying,
2:44:05
okay, the U.S. government shouldn't buy foreign
2:44:07
spyware that's been used in abusive ways to
2:44:10
crack down on dissent and so on.
2:44:12
Now, since then, what we've seen is there's
2:44:14
these loopholes.
2:44:15
DHS can purchase this kind of technology.
2:44:18
Now, in this case, it's from a company
2:44:20
where the argument in favor would be it
2:44:22
hasn't specifically been used in an abusive context.
2:44:25
But what it illustrates is there's a lot
2:44:28
of loopholes, and we're not seeing aggressive enforcement.
2:44:30
And I'll tell you, Sarah, one thing that
2:44:32
I heard from all of these companies that
2:44:34
make this tech, in this film I get
2:44:35
cameras into where they code Pegasus, for instance,
2:44:38
in Israel.
2:44:39
They say, look, we're arms manufacturers.
2:44:42
We make a new powerful kind of weapon,
2:44:44
and it is a weapon.
2:44:46
There's hundreds of cases where this has been
2:44:47
linked to violence.
2:44:49
Wow.
2:44:49
And they say it's not our fault that
2:44:52
there's no Geneva Convention equivalent.
2:44:54
There's no international law preventing this from being
2:44:57
used in certain destructive ways.
2:44:59
So we do just need more of a
2:45:02
framework, and the U.S. government could do
2:45:04
that.
2:45:05
Framework.
2:45:05
It's going to take legislators really pushing them.
2:45:07
Good luck.
2:45:08
Exactly.
2:45:09
Good luck.
2:45:09
Is it time to go back to the
2:45:11
rotary phone?
2:45:11
Yes.
2:45:12
So I'm just trying to understand, this feels
2:45:15
like some kind of setup, because we have
2:45:19
two competing software pieces, and that executive order
2:45:23
came out against Paragon, which to me feels
2:45:28
like he's kind of going anti-Paragon and
2:45:30
pro-Pegasus, which is an Israeli spyware.
2:45:34
I'm confused by it.
2:45:37
Do you think that they're trying to rekindle
2:45:41
the business on the outside as they're preparing
2:45:44
to leave?
2:45:46
Or is this just completely random that this
2:45:49
documentary appears?
2:45:53
I'll have to watch the documentary.
2:45:54
Maybe we can come up...
2:45:55
It'll be revealed in the documentary.
2:45:58
There'll be some moment in there where you
2:46:00
go, oh, what's this?
2:46:01
Wow.
2:46:02
Okay, I get it now.
2:46:03
Well, it's on HBO.
2:46:05
Is it on now?
2:46:06
Yes, it came out yesterday.
2:46:08
I have not watched it, but I think
2:46:10
we should pay attention to this.
2:46:12
I've been watching a fascinating documentary on Netflix.
2:46:17
I only watched the first episode, but it's
2:46:19
interesting enough that you should want to watch
2:46:21
it.
2:46:21
The Vince McMahon documentary about his bio, the
2:46:29
guy who ran the world wrestling operation.
2:46:31
WWF, yeah.
2:46:34
It's fascinating.
2:46:36
And I would recommend people check it out.
2:46:39
And McMahon, currently, at least when they filmed
2:46:41
it, which was a couple years ago, his
2:46:43
whole face has become this kind of goofy
2:46:47
-looking thing.
2:46:48
It's just like, what's happened to you?
2:46:51
You have to...
2:46:53
All right.
2:46:55
It's just an interesting story so far.
2:46:58
I only watched the first part.
2:47:00
It's a multi-parter, huh?
2:47:03
Yeah, which I don't like that, but it
2:47:07
seems deep enough that it keeps you interested.
2:47:09
Now, I have some clips, just some rando
2:47:13
clips of...
2:47:15
Tulsi Gabbard's another person they're going after.
2:47:17
Yes.
2:47:19
And so everybody's favorite, Nikki Haley's decided to
2:47:22
take up the cudgel.
2:47:23
She's the one...
2:47:24
They're not bringing into the operation the Trump
2:47:29
administration.
2:47:30
And she's got a podcast on Sirius, kind
2:47:34
of a podcast.
2:47:35
And she, out of the blue, and you
2:47:37
can tell she's reading every single item here.
2:47:40
Out of the blue, she goes after Tulsi
2:47:42
Gabbard and why she should not be picked
2:47:44
to be the DNI.
2:47:47
Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence.
2:47:50
Now, everybody loves that she is now saying
2:47:53
she's a Republican.
2:47:55
But I have always said, let's look at
2:47:58
what they've said, what their actions are.
2:48:01
DNI, that is the president's top intelligence advisor.
2:48:06
It's supposed to fairly represent the views of
2:48:08
18 separate intelligence agencies and units.
2:48:12
It has the authority over a $100 billion
2:48:16
annual U.S. spy budget.
2:48:19
A $100 billion U.S. annual spy budget.
2:48:22
And it holds sway over which secrets we
2:48:25
declassify.
2:48:27
That's a big deal.
2:48:28
This is a job for an honest broker
2:48:31
without any pronounced policy biases.
2:48:35
So hold that thought for a second.
2:48:39
Okay.
2:48:39
All right, let's hold that thought for a
2:48:40
second.
2:48:42
First of all, the DNI was created, if
2:48:44
you recall, during our show.
2:48:47
In fact, we voted for it, I believe.
2:48:49
You and I.
2:48:50
We said, hey, let's do this.
2:48:51
It's a good idea.
2:48:52
The DNI was done as a way, because
2:48:55
this was after 9-11.
2:48:56
Ah, yes.
2:48:57
And it was done to coerce, because 9
2:48:59
-11 had all these...
2:49:01
We screwed it up.
2:49:01
We weren't talking to each other.
2:49:03
It was no good.
2:49:05
They weren't talking to each other.
2:49:06
So DNI was created out of the blue
2:49:08
to make them talk to each other, not
2:49:13
to control their budgets or their secrets or
2:49:16
anything else.
2:49:18
And so she's...
2:49:19
This is bullcrap, what she's saying.
2:49:21
Of course.
2:49:22
It's Nikki.
2:49:23
It's Nikki.
2:49:25
So Nikki goes on there.
2:49:27
If you want to hear bullcrap, we're going
2:49:28
to play the...
2:49:28
If you want to hear...
2:49:29
You can stop me.
2:49:30
Yeah, I want to hear some bullcrap.
2:49:31
But if you want to hear more bullcrap,
2:49:33
everything Nikki says is like, wait a minute.
2:49:37
You just have...
2:49:38
This is one of the worst presentations.
2:49:41
This is a smear job, but it falls
2:49:44
on deaf ears to anyone who actually knows
2:49:46
what's going on.
2:49:47
So let's go next.
2:49:48
What are the facts about Tulsi Gabbard?
2:49:51
Now, is this just a straight-up video
2:49:52
where she's just talking to the camera?
2:49:55
She's reading this.
2:49:57
And it is a video.
2:49:58
And she's got some partner there who's named
2:50:01
Chaney.
2:50:02
I think is her first name.
2:50:03
Oh, really?
2:50:04
And this is some obscure, serious FM show
2:50:10
she has.
2:50:11
I never heard of it, but this was
2:50:13
played on...
2:50:13
It was recorded and pushed out there.
2:50:17
Let's get the facts.
2:50:19
She opposed ending the Iran nuclear deal.
2:50:22
She opposed sanctions on Iran.
2:50:26
She opposed designating the Iran military as terrorists
2:50:31
who say death to America every single day.
2:50:35
Every day.
2:50:36
She said that Donald Trump turned the U
2:50:39
.S. into Saudi Arabia's prostitute.
2:50:42
No, bitch.
2:50:42
This is going to be the future head
2:50:44
of our national intelligence.
2:50:47
In Congress, Tulsi criticized Trump's authoritarian strike against
2:50:52
Qasem Soleimani.
2:50:54
Now, I will remind you, he was considered
2:50:56
the master of death in Iran.
2:50:57
She said he had no justification whatsoever for
2:51:01
killing him.
2:51:03
She tried to limit Trump's war powers against
2:51:06
Iran.
2:51:07
She tried to cut our annual defense budget
2:51:11
so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder
2:51:14
their influence.
2:51:15
Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of
2:51:19
terrorism.
2:51:20
Oh, my goodness.
2:51:22
And this is supposed to work?
2:51:23
This is supposed to change somebody's mind?
2:51:25
Or what is the point?
2:51:27
That's what I'd like to know, but there
2:51:29
was a little gotcha in there at the
2:51:31
end.
2:51:32
If you listen to the last couple sentences,
2:51:35
replay them, you're going to hear, wait a
2:51:38
minute, what?
2:51:39
She said he had no justification whatsoever for
2:51:43
killing him.
2:51:44
She tried to limit Trump's war powers against
2:51:47
Iran.
2:51:48
She tried to cut our annual defense budget
2:51:52
so that we couldn't punish Iran and hinder
2:51:55
their influence.
2:51:56
Reminder, Iran is our number one sponsor of
2:52:01
terrorism.
2:52:01
There were a couple things in there.
2:52:03
Well, the first one that got my attention,
2:52:06
Iran is our number one sponsor of terrorism.
2:52:12
Our, like us.
2:52:16
There you go.
2:52:16
Hey, we pay those guys good money.
2:52:19
Now, the point, and that matches our basic
2:52:23
dude name, Mohammed, and everybody else tells us
2:52:28
that this is bullcrap.
2:52:29
We're in bed with Iran.
2:52:30
Yeah, we pay those guys top dollar, sometimes
2:52:34
just pallets of money, cash money, to do
2:52:38
some terrorism.
2:52:39
And now, and she tried to cut that
2:52:41
off.
2:52:42
Horrible Tulsi.
2:52:44
So Nikki says that Iran is our number
2:52:51
one sponsor.
2:52:52
What?
2:52:53
Okay, so something's up with that.
2:52:56
So let's go on to the next clip.
2:52:59
She went to Syria in 2017 for a
2:53:02
photo op.
2:53:03
After Assad and his wife were in Vogue
2:53:06
magazine for their photo op, but we'll just
2:53:08
forget that.
2:53:09
With Bashar al-Assad while he was massacring
2:53:13
his own people.
2:53:15
Pretty much disproven, or as Nikki might say,
2:53:18
debunked.
2:53:19
She said she was skeptical that he was
2:53:22
behind the chemical weapons attacks.
2:53:24
Now, this to me is disgusting, because Cheney,
2:53:27
you and I were at the United Nations
2:53:29
when Assad did those chemical attacks on those
2:53:32
children.
2:53:33
And you can go back and look at
2:53:35
a speech I gave holding up pictures of
2:53:38
dead children who had been killed by chemical
2:53:40
attacks.
2:53:41
Remember that?
2:53:41
That was awesome.
2:53:43
For her to say that Assad was not
2:53:46
behind that, literally everything she said about that
2:53:49
were Russian talking points.
2:53:51
Every bit of that.
2:53:52
That was Russian propaganda.
2:53:55
After Russia invaded Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard literally blamed
2:54:00
NATO, our Western alliance that's responsible for countering
2:54:04
Russia.
2:54:04
She blamed NATO for the attack on Ukraine.
2:54:10
And the Russians and the Chinese echoed her
2:54:13
talking points and her interviews on Russian and
2:54:17
Chinese television.
2:54:19
All right, hold on a second.
2:54:20
First of all, the White Helmets faked all
2:54:23
that nonsense.
2:54:24
There's ample evidence of that.
2:54:25
And the missiles were shown to be bull
2:54:27
crap.
2:54:27
They were actually sent by the other side.
2:54:29
And they were doing photo ops.
2:54:31
That whole thing was debunked, debunked, debunked.
2:54:32
And we did it on our show probably
2:54:34
earlier than anybody else.
2:54:36
The whole thing was a fraud.
2:54:38
Yeah, and remember it was Brad Pitt and
2:54:40
Jennifer Aniston driving around with Assad all buddy
2:54:43
-buddy, and then all of a sudden he
2:54:44
was killing children, and she had a picture
2:54:46
of it.
2:54:48
Dead children.
2:54:48
Remember when I held up dead children?
2:54:51
That was awesome.
2:54:53
She's a horrible, horrible, horrible woman.
2:54:55
And then the NATO thing, which we've discussed
2:54:58
to death.
2:54:59
Yes, of course NATO is to blame.
2:55:01
That's the premise of the last 10 years
2:55:06
of this show we've talked about, that ever
2:55:08
since Victoria Nuland and the cookies.
2:55:11
Yeah, and Brennan being there.
2:55:13
Brennan, everybody.
2:55:16
Okay.
2:55:17
There's more?
2:55:20
She's reading this from somebody who has put
2:55:23
her up to this.
2:55:24
I'm sure she bought into it because she's
2:55:25
not that bright.
2:55:26
The Boeing Corporation.
2:55:30
Maybe.
2:55:31
Yeah.
2:55:33
Onward.
2:55:35
Tulsi Gabbard pushed for dropping charges against WikiLeaks
2:55:38
founder Julian Assange and pardoning National Security Agency
2:55:42
contractor Edward Snowden, both whom were accused of
2:55:47
leaking highly sensitive U.S. secrets that put
2:55:51
Americans in danger.
2:55:53
Yeah, okay.
2:55:54
What Americans were in danger from that?
2:55:57
I don't know.
2:55:58
I don't know.
2:56:00
And what was wrong with that?
2:56:01
I mean, Trump probably would have done it
2:56:03
if it hadn't have been for, according to
2:56:05
rumors, this is not a provable fact, but
2:56:08
Trump wanted to because he liked WikiLeaks because
2:56:11
it helped him get elected in 2016.
2:56:13
So he would have pardoned Assange or stopped
2:56:17
it.
2:56:18
Yeah.
2:56:18
Assange is not even an American citizen.
2:56:20
How can you pick him up?
2:56:22
All right.
2:56:23
I'm glad it's only one last clip because
2:56:24
Nikki Haley is horrible.
2:56:27
Yes, exactly.
2:56:28
That's the point of these clips.
2:56:30
Oh, thanks.
2:56:31
All right, last clip.
2:56:33
So now she's defended Russia, she's defended Syria,
2:56:36
she's defended Iran, and she's defended China.
2:56:39
No, she has not denounced any of these
2:56:42
views, none of them.
2:56:44
She hasn't taken one of them back.
2:56:46
DNI, Department of National Intelligence, this is not
2:56:51
a place for a Russian.
2:56:53
Hold on a second.
2:56:54
It's not a department.
2:56:55
Isn't she the director?
2:56:58
Direct, DNI is Director of National Intelligence, not
2:57:01
Department of National Intelligence.
2:57:04
Am I incorrect?
2:57:05
Oh, good point.
2:57:06
Yeah, you're right.
2:57:07
So she's dumb.
2:57:08
Department of National Intelligence, this is not a
2:57:12
place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer.
2:57:19
Hey, my whistle's broken.
2:57:23
I want that on my business card.
2:57:25
This is not a place for a Russian,
2:57:28
Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer.
2:57:31
DNI has to analyze real threats.
2:57:35
Are we comfortable with someone like that at
2:57:38
the top of our national intelligence agencies?
2:57:41
Oh, you know what?
2:57:43
I think I have to do it.
2:57:45
I have to break it out.
2:57:46
I got to bring out Tim Draper, venture
2:57:48
capitalist extraordinaire, with his partial rap of Nikki
2:57:52
Haley for president.
2:57:53
And Biden, who's dying to drain our reserves.
2:57:57
When voters come out, he'll get his deserves.
2:58:06
Yeah.
2:58:09
Remember that?
2:58:10
Remember that hit?
2:58:11
Oh, yeah.
2:58:12
Yeah.
2:58:12
The classic.
2:58:16
Oh.
2:58:17
Tim still thinks that Elizabeth Holmes was innocent
2:58:20
and set up, and he was just crazy.
2:58:23
I think to this day, he's just crazy
2:58:25
about her.
2:58:27
Oh, yeah.
2:58:27
He wants her.
2:58:28
Theranos girl.
2:58:29
Yeah, exactly.
2:58:30
Who's in jail, as far as I know,
2:58:32
if I'm not mistaken.
2:58:33
All right.
2:58:33
Is that how we're going out?
2:58:34
We're going out with this Nikki business?
2:58:37
No, I got more stuff.
2:58:38
I mean, I just wanted to play that
2:58:39
and get it out of the way to
2:58:39
show you what a smear is.
2:58:40
We're three hours in.
2:58:41
By the way, this is a lousy smear.
2:58:43
I'm just letting you know, we're three hours
2:58:44
in.
2:58:45
So before you say, oh, I'm too long.
2:58:47
No, you got to do.
2:58:48
You got to do one more.
2:58:49
Do one of your tick tock clips.
2:58:50
Everybody can be really annoyed by it.
2:58:53
Okay, well, I've got a couple of only
2:58:55
one.
2:58:55
You have to choose one.
2:58:57
I'm looking at him right now to figure
2:58:58
out which one to do.
2:58:59
I'm going to do the I know you
2:59:03
got you.
2:59:04
How about the oh, now this is actually
2:59:06
a good one because it's not a bad
2:59:08
one.
2:59:08
It's not a bad.
2:59:09
Oh, I'll save the bad ones.
2:59:11
The one where people are going nuts.
2:59:12
This is a very interesting little story.
2:59:14
Some girl developed.
2:59:16
She's a kind of a pretty girl that
2:59:18
that was bragging about how easy it is
2:59:21
to use dating apps.
2:59:22
And so one of her friends said, hey,
2:59:24
you think so?
2:59:26
A guy says to her, why don't you
2:59:28
be me on dating apps and tell me
2:59:30
how it goes?
2:59:31
And I thought this was pretty revealing.
2:59:32
Some of my guy friends gave me permission
2:59:35
to make a hinge account for him because
2:59:38
I was telling him how easy dating is
2:59:41
with dating apps.
2:59:43
And he was telling me that it's incredibly
2:59:44
difficult.
2:59:45
And I was like, Pete, you must be
2:59:46
doing something wrong.
2:59:48
And he gave me permission to create an
2:59:50
account for him and just run the account.
2:59:53
I've been a virtual boy for three days
2:59:55
and I've never felt this bad about myself.
2:59:58
I feel like a freaking loser trying to
3:00:01
get these girls to like me.
3:00:02
And I'm starting to hate women because I'm
3:00:05
like, when I say I, I mean, Pete,
3:00:07
because that's the account I'm using.
3:00:09
Pete's about a six, but I'm so desperate.
3:00:12
I'm liking the twos and the threes and
3:00:13
even they won't like me back.
3:00:15
Pete, which is a six.
3:00:17
So what level of delusion has entered women's
3:00:20
head heads?
3:00:22
What is going on?
3:00:23
It is so difficult dating as a boy.
3:00:26
I hate it.
3:00:27
I'm on day three of being a boy
3:00:28
and I hate women and I'm more depressed
3:00:31
than ever.
3:00:31
Well, you have just uncovered something very important.
3:00:36
This is the reason why men are becoming
3:00:38
women.
3:00:39
This is this is the genesis of the
3:00:41
trans Maoist revolution.
3:00:43
It might, you know, there's a possibility.
3:00:46
I'm going to show my support by donating
3:00:48
to No Agenda.
3:00:49
Imagine all the people who could do that.
3:00:51
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
3:00:53
Yeah.
3:00:58
Well, luckily, we don't have to worry about
3:01:01
that anymore.
3:01:02
We are both happily married and that's good.
3:01:05
Get old.
3:01:06
Speak for yourself.
3:01:09
We have tip of the day coming up.
3:01:11
We have end of show mixes.
3:01:12
And of course, we have the no agenda.
3:01:14
We got a couple of meetup reports today,
3:01:16
including the one from Busan, Korea.
3:01:18
So stay tuned for that.
3:01:19
As John thanks our supporters who gave us
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treasure in the time, talent and treasure of
3:01:24
value for value.
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Fifty dollars and above.
3:01:28
Yes.
3:01:29
And it starts off with one that has
3:01:31
a little note attached, which I want to
3:01:33
read because it's in Colorado Springs.
3:01:35
Clayton Peterson's in Colorado Springs to be specific.
3:01:38
And he comes in with one hundred sixty
3:01:39
eight dollars and fifty cents.
3:01:40
But he says this is a night stalker
3:01:43
donation in honor of the Army's premier operations
3:01:46
aviation unit.
3:01:48
The one sixtieth SOAR Special Operations Aviation Regiment.
3:01:52
The Night Stalkers.
3:01:53
Oh, yes.
3:01:55
DQ Night Stalkers.
3:01:56
Don't quit.
3:01:57
Nice.
3:01:58
What's going on in Colorado?
3:02:01
Nathan Cochran's up next.
3:02:02
He's in Franklin, Tennessee.
3:02:03
One, two, three, four, five.
3:02:04
Elizabeth Gunther in Round Rock, Texas.
3:02:06
A hundred dollars.
3:02:08
Mackenzie Armstrong in Chesterfield, New Jersey.
3:02:11
One hundred dollars.
3:02:13
Need some rain stick.
3:02:16
It's raining everywhere.
3:02:18
It's raining here.
3:02:20
Where?
3:02:20
Rain stick for where?
3:02:23
New Jersey.
3:02:24
There's some fires.
3:02:26
I don't think we can do it without
3:02:27
taking a horrible risk.
3:02:29
Yeah, I need some more evidence that it's
3:02:32
rain stick time.
3:02:33
Yeah, I agree.
3:02:35
Sorry, Mackenzie.
3:02:35
But thanks for the hundred.
3:02:38
Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas.
3:02:40
Eight, eight, eight, eight.
3:02:41
Sir Brian Tobias in 8808.
3:02:46
Has to do with his anniversary.
3:02:49
8808.
3:02:49
Good man.
3:02:50
Yeah.
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I'm 8888.
3:02:53
That's right.
3:02:55
Sir Kevin McLaughlin.
3:02:57
There he is.
3:02:57
He's the Archduke of Luna and a lover
3:02:59
of America and boobs.
3:03:00
Came in with the classic 8008.
3:03:02
Joseph Weiss in Miami, Florida.
3:03:05
7777.
3:03:06
Bonicus.
3:03:08
Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta.
3:03:11
75.
3:03:13
She still likes the show.
3:03:14
She's been listening forever.
3:03:16
Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota.
3:03:21
7131.
3:03:22
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois.
3:03:24
6006.
3:03:25
Small boobs.
3:03:25
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona.
3:03:28
6006.
3:03:30
Michael Ragusa in Tustin, California.
3:03:35
6006.
3:03:35
What is it?
3:03:36
6006 day.
3:03:38
Ethan Moss in Birmingham, Alabama.
3:03:41
5555.
3:03:43
Dean Roker, 5510.
3:03:45
Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania.
3:03:48
5250.
3:03:50
Eric Asnes, I think, in Lawndale, California.
3:03:56
Asnes.
3:03:56
Asnes.
3:03:57
Asnes.
3:03:58
Oh, my gosh.
3:03:59
5150.
3:04:00
Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri.
3:04:02
5005.
3:04:03
And the following people, the short list that
3:04:05
we have today, at least we have a
3:04:06
few 50s.
3:04:07
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
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Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.
3:04:12
Hello, Alexandria.
3:04:13
Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
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Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
3:04:18
Nicholas Rudowich in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia.
3:04:24
Jim Perotti wallpapering.
3:04:26
Jim Perotti wallpapering.
3:04:30
And he's in Waltersboro, South Carolina.
3:04:34
Look him up.
3:04:34
He's on Google.
3:04:36
Simon Aronowitz in North Wembley, Middlesex, UK.
3:04:41
And he says, your premium content sucks.
3:04:45
I'm canceling my subscription.
3:04:47
We lost another one from the bundle.
3:04:50
The bundle is failing.
3:04:50
Yeah, the bundle, the plus bundle.
3:04:52
The bundle is failing.
3:04:55
Frank DiZoglio in Jamestown, Rhode Island.
3:04:58
And last on our list is Baroness Knight.
3:05:00
She's up in Edmonds, Washington.
3:05:01
I want to thank these people for making
3:05:02
1714 show.
3:05:04
Actually, go on the air and get done.
3:05:07
And go long.
3:05:09
Go long?
3:05:10
What do you mean go?
3:05:11
Oh, go, the show go long.
3:05:12
Well, that's because of your Nicky clips.
3:05:15
Your Nicky clips, man.
3:05:16
Yeah, I was looking for this donation from
3:05:18
Allie Jade.
3:05:19
I don't see it, but I will read
3:05:21
her note because I'm sure she'll donate.
3:05:23
She says, good morning, Adam.
3:05:24
The church, my family, and support and attend
3:05:26
are doing a big operation to bring Thanksgiving
3:05:28
and Christmas to the whole town of Old
3:05:30
Fort, North Carolina that was badly hurt from
3:05:32
the flooding of Hurricane Helene.
3:05:34
We're going to feed everyone that comes, and
3:05:36
every child that comes is going to get
3:05:38
a gift from Santa and a professional Santa
3:05:39
photo.
3:05:40
The site is OperationChristmasCheer.com.
3:05:44
Denton Wesleyan Church is organized with many great
3:05:46
sponsors.
3:05:47
So if you want to help that initiative,
3:05:49
OperationChristmasCheer.com.
3:05:50
Now, I appreciate that you did that.
3:05:52
Allie, I would say, though, that you are
3:05:57
perfect to do a hyper-local podcast instead
3:06:01
of being in the donation segment of the
3:06:03
Noah Jenner Show.
3:06:04
You should start this right away.
3:06:06
Do it with the church equipment, whatever.
3:06:08
And if you want information, send me an
3:06:10
email.
3:06:11
I've got a whole primer on how to
3:06:13
start a hyper-local podcast.
3:06:15
I have now over 120 people who emailed
3:06:17
me wanting to start a hyper-local podcast.
3:06:20
There's nothing to sneeze about, which you just
3:06:23
did.
3:06:23
I was blowing my nose, actually.
3:06:24
Sorry.
3:06:26
Yes, she's absolutely perfect.
3:06:29
In fact, people should be doing that for
3:06:32
these sorts of announcements.
3:06:33
We're an international show.
3:06:34
There's not that many people we can really
3:06:35
influence to go to that event.
3:06:38
We're an international show, he says.
3:06:41
We are.
3:06:41
International show.
3:06:43
Well, thank you to these producers who came
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in $50 and above.
3:06:48
Under $50 we don't mention for reasons of
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anonymity.
3:06:50
We always appreciate the sustaining donations.
3:06:53
You can go to noagendadonations.com.
3:06:56
You can use any amount, any frequency.
3:06:58
And, of course, thank you to our executive
3:07:00
and associate executive producers who we thanked earlier.
3:07:04
noagendadonations.com.
3:07:11
Very short list, but we're happy to say
3:07:14
that Jasmine McMahon wishes her son Ryan a
3:07:17
happy birthday.
3:07:17
Here's to a nine on November 15th.
3:07:19
We read that earlier.
3:07:20
And Eli the Coffee Guy once again wishes
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his smoking hot wife, who really is running
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all the business, Jen, a very happy birthday.
3:07:27
As do we.
3:07:28
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
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podcast in the universe.
3:07:34
And, wow, no title changes.
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We do have that one-nighting.
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So, if you get your blade out.
3:07:40
Get your blade out.
3:07:41
The one-nighting blade.
3:07:42
That's the one-nighting blade.
3:07:43
Up on the podium, please.
3:07:46
Agent 99.
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Yes, sir.
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Thank you for your support of the best
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podcast in the universe.
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The amount of $1,000 or more at
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noagendadonations.com.
3:07:56
I am very happy to pronounce the KD
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as Sir Agent 99, proprietor of the best
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little whorehouse in Texas and keeper of the
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Cone of Silence.
3:08:05
For you, sir, we have hookers and blow,
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prostitutes and cigars, rent boys and Chardonnay.
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We've got dyed silver and video games.
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Just to keep it easy.
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Harlots and Haldol, beers and blunts.
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We've got Rubenesque, Lumen and Rosé, Gateson and
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Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and Bourbon,
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Sparkling, Saturn, Escort, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Fresh
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Milk and Pablum.
3:08:23
And I'm sure you will enjoy our mutton
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and meat.
3:08:26
And, of course, you have steak, collard greens
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with bacon, peach cobbler and Shiner Bock all
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lined up at your place.
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Go to noagenderings.com and take a look
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at that wonderful Cignet ring that we send
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out to you.
3:08:37
Once you give us your address and your
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ring size, there's a ring sizing guide on
3:08:41
the website, noagenderings.com.
3:08:43
Thank you.
3:08:44
And welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable.
3:08:47
No Agenda Meetups!
3:08:53
Yeah!
3:08:55
Yeah, these No Agenda Meetups are no joke.
3:08:58
And just to your point, we are an
3:09:00
international show.
3:09:01
Our meetups happen around the globe.
3:09:03
They had one in Busan, Korea, and they
3:09:06
sent us a meetup report as requested.
3:09:08
Hey, it's Mertegu from Busan saying ahui ahui
3:09:12
and Mofos.
3:09:14
In the morning to you all.
3:09:16
Hello, Mofos.
3:09:17
This is soon to be Sir Yap of
3:09:19
the Wageningen Food Valley.
3:09:21
Hello, I'm Andy.
3:09:23
I met my friend in Daegu and here.
3:09:27
I want to talk about the Korean culture
3:09:29
related to the real equality and communism.
3:09:34
In the morning, John and Adam.
3:09:36
I am Zina and I'd like to thank
3:09:38
you for creating a podcast that keeps my
3:09:40
parents sane and busy.
3:09:44
Ahui ahui from Busan.
3:09:46
In the morning, Mofos.
3:09:49
You'd think that Korea would have better gear.
3:09:53
Yeah?
3:09:54
Where were they recording that on?
3:09:56
Thank you, Busan.
3:09:57
We appreciate that.
3:09:58
Leo Bravo once again doing those meetups in
3:10:00
the Los Angeles area.
3:10:02
He calls it the flight of the No
3:10:03
Agenda and he checks in.
3:10:05
The train's coming.
3:10:06
The train's coming.
3:10:09
Listen to that horn.
3:10:13
Hey, everybody.
3:10:14
It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 57.
3:10:16
Train's good.
3:10:17
Plane's bad.
3:10:18
Hello, this is Sir Leo Kim full pop
3:10:20
and I voted for Vermin Supreme.
3:10:22
10-4.
3:10:22
10-4.
3:10:23
These things are huge.
3:10:24
This is Sir Thomas the Engineer.
3:10:26
In the morning.
3:10:26
This is Angie from the ranch enjoying our
3:10:28
time right here in Fullerton.
3:10:29
In the morning.
3:10:31
In the morning to you and Roger Roundy
3:10:33
along with DC Girl.
3:10:36
They did the spook meetup in Alexandria, Virginia.
3:10:40
The train's coming.
3:10:40
The train's coming.
3:10:41
The train.
3:10:42
Oops.
3:10:43
That's not the one.
3:10:44
This is the one.
3:10:45
Hey, this is DC Girl from the Alexandria
3:10:47
meetup.
3:10:48
In the morning.
3:10:49
This is Roundy.
3:10:50
Hey, this is Sir William of West Pennsylvania.
3:10:52
Hey, John, your fictional third person's name's always
3:10:55
Bill and I take issue with that.
3:10:57
Dane Lee, I promise we're good company.
3:10:59
Don't listen to Roger.
3:11:00
Hi, this is Sir Bob.
3:11:02
Black night at Chesapeake Bay and train's good,
3:11:05
plane's bad.
3:11:05
In the morning.
3:11:07
Oh, thank you guys.
3:11:08
So, those are just a few of the
3:11:09
meetups that we had.
3:11:10
People love sending in their reports.
3:11:12
We love hearing it.
3:11:13
We love the camaraderie.
3:11:15
It is protection that you get through the
3:11:17
connection with your local first responders known as
3:11:19
the No Agenda Meetup attendees.
3:11:21
And as we speak, there's another meetup happening
3:11:24
in El Salvador, El Zante.
3:11:26
El Zante Beach, I believe, at the Sunset
3:11:28
Bar.
3:11:28
Pablo, make sure you send us a meetup
3:11:30
report.
3:11:31
Also today, the No Agenda New York City
3:11:33
No.
3:11:33
7.
3:11:34
That's always a pretty big one.
3:11:35
Bunk Bar Cafe in New York, New York.
3:11:37
Dan, love to hear a meetup report from
3:11:39
that.
3:11:39
North Georgia Monthly, 6 o'clock today at
3:11:42
Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
3:11:44
The Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock
3:11:47
tonight at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
3:11:50
And on Saturday, the pre-Thanksgiving meetup, 2
3:11:53
o'clock in the afternoon.
3:11:54
Spada Farmhouse Brewery, Snohomish, Washington.
3:11:57
Hey, could Mimi go?
3:12:00
In Snohomish?
3:12:00
Is she anywhere near there?
3:12:02
No.
3:12:02
Okay.
3:12:03
Don't expect Mimi.
3:12:05
But you can still, whenever I say Mimi,
3:12:07
you think TooManyEggs.com.
3:12:08
And on our next show day, Sunday, the
3:12:10
IndyNA Tribal Count and Count and Count on
3:12:13
US meetup, 3.30 at Broad Ripple Tavern,
3:12:17
Indianapolis, Indiana.
3:12:19
That's Sir Mark and Dame Maria of the
3:12:20
Greenwood organizing that.
3:12:21
So they always send us a very professional
3:12:23
report.
3:12:24
Looking forward to it.
3:12:25
Also on Sunday, we're all going to die,
3:12:26
but not yet.
3:12:28
It has been postponed.
3:12:29
That was the New South Wales, Australia event.
3:12:31
That has been postponed.
3:12:32
Sir Chris Wilson was going to do it.
3:12:34
I hope everything's okay.
3:12:35
So we're just going to presume it is,
3:12:36
and we'll look forward to a new date
3:12:38
for that.
3:12:39
Just some of the No Agenda meetups that
3:12:41
are on the calendar.
3:12:42
We have them all over the United States,
3:12:44
all over the EU, all over parts of
3:12:47
Asia.
3:12:48
It is unbelievable.
3:12:49
You need to be a part of this
3:12:50
if you really want to complete your No
3:12:52
Agenda experience.
3:12:53
Go to noagendameetups.com.
3:12:56
Look for one near you.
3:12:57
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
3:12:59
It's easy and always a party.
3:13:18
It's like a party.
3:13:20
Yeah, baby.
3:13:23
Wow, I am low on the ISO.
3:13:27
Let me see.
3:13:27
I think I have...
3:13:28
You were low on the ISOs last show.
3:13:30
I figured you'd be load up.
3:13:31
No, I'm not loaded up.
3:13:32
I have two.
3:13:35
I have this one.
3:13:36
I should have bleeped it myself.
3:13:38
Bleep.
3:13:40
Yeah, I know.
3:13:41
It's horrible.
3:13:42
I'm into that.
3:13:43
I'm into that.
3:13:45
That's not bad.
3:13:46
I kind of like that.
3:13:46
I'm into that.
3:13:47
I'm into that.
3:13:48
I'm here to God.
3:13:52
What you got?
3:13:55
Well, I don't know if I can beat
3:13:56
that, but...
3:13:57
I have a couple of randos.
3:13:59
Okay.
3:13:59
Let's start with individual...
3:14:02
Something or other.
3:14:03
Individuality?
3:14:04
Yeah.
3:14:05
Individuality as our superpower.
3:14:09
Do a jackal.
3:14:10
Yeah.
3:14:11
How about this?
3:14:11
That's a jaguar guy.
3:14:13
Yeah, it's...
3:14:14
Not for you.
3:14:15
This is not for you!
3:14:18
Hmm.
3:14:19
We have some kind of a toss up
3:14:20
here.
3:14:21
Let me see.
3:14:21
I'm into that.
3:14:22
I'm into that.
3:14:24
This is not for you!
3:14:26
No, I think that's...
3:14:27
I'm into that.
3:14:28
I'm into...
3:14:28
Are you into that?
3:14:29
I'm into that.
3:14:29
Are you into that?
3:14:31
Hello?
3:14:31
Are you into that?
3:14:33
It's not for you.
3:14:35
Uh, it's not...
3:14:36
I'm into that.
3:14:36
Hey!
3:14:37
You know what I'm into?
3:14:38
I'm into another tip of the day.
3:14:39
Let's get ready for JCD!
3:14:42
Greetings, guys, from you and me.
3:14:44
Just a tip with JCD.
3:14:48
And sometimes Adam.
3:14:50
And if I may, before you start, we
3:14:52
received several emails about the magic burn cream.
3:14:58
Did you see these?
3:14:59
No, I didn't.
3:15:00
No one sent me them.
3:15:01
No, I thought you were...
3:15:03
I thought you were copying.
3:15:04
Yes, we had Sam Williams says, the magic
3:15:07
burn cream that we talked about on the
3:15:09
previous episode, which you can find at tipsoftheday
3:15:13
.net.
3:15:15
Apparently, it is a chemical waste product from
3:15:17
paper mills called DMSO.
3:15:20
Oh, no, that's different.
3:15:22
I saw that note.
3:15:23
So, it's not DMSO?
3:15:25
In the burn cream?
3:15:26
Yeah.
3:15:27
No, that DMSO is a product that's used
3:15:29
for arthritis.
3:15:31
Okay.
3:15:32
Not for burns.
3:15:32
So, that's not what that was?
3:15:35
No.
3:15:36
Okay, well, you're the chemist.
3:15:39
And, um...
3:15:40
Well, I mean, I haven't got the burn
3:15:41
cream, so it could be cream DMSO, but
3:15:44
DMSO is a light liquid that is a
3:15:47
waste product that is used.
3:15:50
It's controversial.
3:15:51
Yes.
3:15:51
And it's used if you have arthritis.
3:15:54
Daryl Lamonica, the famous long ball-throwing quarterback
3:15:58
for the Oakland Raiders, he was a big
3:16:01
fan of that stuff.
3:16:02
Hmm.
3:16:04
We had another one, and he said, I
3:16:07
want to let you know, I did the
3:16:08
exact same thing to Paul.
3:16:10
My hand was about 16 years old.
3:16:11
This is kind of a sub-tip.
3:16:13
My grandmother was in the kitchen.
3:16:15
She was from Ireland, knew lots of tricks.
3:16:17
When I burnt my hand, she immediately pulled
3:16:19
out a regular potato from the refrigerator, raw,
3:16:22
cut it in half, and rubbed it on
3:16:24
the palm of my hand.
3:16:25
The starch from a potato will instantly neutralize
3:16:28
severe burns.
3:16:30
I mean, it's not really a product.
3:16:31
I mean, it's kind of weird to go
3:16:33
to Amazon to get a potato.
3:16:34
No, but this kind of a tip is
3:16:35
worth trying.
3:16:36
I just grab...
3:16:36
Get a potato.
3:16:38
I grab frozen food.
3:16:40
Well, you're going to love the burn cream.
3:16:43
You're going to love...
3:16:43
Have you ordered it?
3:16:45
Yeah, I ordered it.
3:16:46
I haven't gotten it.
3:16:47
Okay, good.
3:16:48
Anyway, that was just a little follow-up.
3:16:50
Time now for John's tip of the day.
3:16:53
Okay, there's a product that Mimi insists that
3:16:56
I promote because she's got one, I've got
3:16:59
one, everyone's got one.
3:17:01
Kids have got one.
3:17:02
This is the Bissell CrossWave Floor and Area
3:17:06
Rug Cleaner Wet-Dry Vacuum.
3:17:09
Oh.
3:17:11
It's called the CrossWave.
3:17:12
It's a...
3:17:13
If you have animals that...
3:17:15
Yes.
3:17:15
...accidentally make a mistake and pee on the
3:17:17
floor...
3:17:18
Yeah.
3:17:19
...this is for you.
3:17:21
It sucks it up.
3:17:23
It washes the floor.
3:17:24
It's good for...
3:17:24
It's good for cleaning linoleum floors or any
3:17:28
kind of hardwood floor, and it's also good
3:17:31
for cleaning rugs.
3:17:32
It's got two different kinds of brushes.
3:17:34
It's a dynamite product.
3:17:37
And what is it called again?
3:17:39
Bissell.
3:17:40
B-I-S-S-E-L-L.
3:17:42
You have a lozenge in your mouth, don't
3:17:43
you?
3:17:44
I do because I was...
3:17:45
Yeah, because I could tell you...
3:17:46
Do that or cough.
3:17:48
I do have a lozenge.
3:17:50
You're astute.
3:17:52
I just chewed it up and swallowed it.
3:17:53
Oh, no.
3:17:54
Okay, easy.
3:17:55
Easy does it.
3:17:55
It wasn't that big of a problem.
3:17:56
Bissell CrossWave Floor and Area Rug Cleaner.
3:18:00
Wet-Dry Vacuum.
3:18:03
I think there's a couple different models.
3:18:04
What is the price point on this item?
3:18:07
I think the cheapest I've ever seen them
3:18:08
is about $150, but they run around $219.
3:18:11
They're not cheap.
3:18:12
No.
3:18:12
But they're not expensive.
3:18:14
Well, if your pet makes a mistake, then...
3:18:18
It's also good for making the floors very
3:18:20
shiny and clean.
3:18:22
Yeah.
3:18:22
You know, you and I, we could do
3:18:24
a QVC show.
3:18:25
Don't you think?
3:18:26
Oh, I'd love to do.
3:18:27
Or home shopping there.
3:18:28
Either one.
3:18:29
Hey, hi, John and Adam.
3:18:32
I just picked up on that item you
3:18:33
were talking about.
3:18:34
You know, my dog makes mistakes, and boy,
3:18:37
that Bissell Wet-and-Dry Cleaner is really
3:18:40
great.
3:18:41
Yep.
3:18:42
And we go, oh, we're so happy you
3:18:44
picked up on that item, because we're almost
3:18:47
out.
3:18:47
We're almost out.
3:18:48
Yeah, we're almost out.
3:18:49
We sold 500.
3:18:50
We got another 20 left, only three in
3:18:52
the red.
3:18:53
We got five in the turquoise and one
3:18:55
in the cream.
3:18:56
The cream is going fast.
3:18:57
We can do it.
3:18:57
Oh, the cream, never mind.
3:18:59
The cream has been sold out.
3:19:12
We would be great at that.
3:19:13
And we'd probably make money.
3:19:16
We'd probably make more money than we made
3:19:18
today.
3:19:20
That is it for our show.
3:19:22
Thank you all very much for supporting us.
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End of show mixes.
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We had nothing new.
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Nothing, zero, zilch, nada.
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No new mixes.
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So I pulled out Tidewater Architect.
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Dog day.
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Yes.
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I pulled out Secret Agent Steve.
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Paul.
3:19:42
Is it Paul?
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Steve.
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Secret Agent Paul.
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Steve.
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And a clip custodian, Neal Jones, for your
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show here.
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We look forward to our next episode with
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you, which will be this coming Sunday.
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And remember, we're also working here on Thanksgiving
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just for your entertainment.
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Coming to you from the heart of the
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Texas hill country, here in Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA
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Region Number 6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the rain
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has stopped for a moment, but it's raining.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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42 degrees this morning when I walked Phoebe
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in Texas.
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It's chilly.
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Winter is coming.
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Remember us at NoahJenTheDonations.com until Sunday.
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Adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and such.
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He's Trump, he's Trump, the president.
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This month, the World Council for Health has
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called for a global recall of all vaccines
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because worldwide, 40,000 deaths with the vaccine.
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We must acknowledge that COVID-19 genetic injections
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cause far more harm than good and provide
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zero benefit relative to risk for the young
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and healthy.
3:21:06
These experimental gene therapy treatments can damage your
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children as well as yourself.
3:21:12
The typical standard for any biological product is
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50 deaths put off the market.
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50, not 40,000.
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They do not reduce COVID-19 infection, which
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is treatable and not terminal.
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So when there is a global recall by
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an international organization, this committee ought to be
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having emergency meetings.
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Furthermore, the most recent data demonstrates that you
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are more likely to become infected or have
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disease or even death if you've been vaccinated
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compared to the unvaccinated people.
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This is shocking to hear, but it is
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what the data are showing.
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79% of people with chromocytes were fully
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vaccinated.
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That is pretty much factual evidence that the
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vaccines have completely failed.
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They can damage your heart, your brain, your
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reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
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your brain, your reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
3:22:06
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
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your lungs.
3:22:11
This can include permanent damage of your immune
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system.
3:22:14
They can damage your heart, your brain, your
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reproductive tissue, and your lungs.
3:22:20
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
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your lungs.
3:22:25
Your heart, your brain, your reproductive tissue, and
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your lungs.
3:22:35
Don't worry.
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Be happy.
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Don't worry.
3:22:44
Be happy.
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I think if we ever allow ourselves to
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get to the point that we feel we
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need boots on the moon to protect some
3:22:53
assets, to protect an American flag, or an
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Apollo landing site, a historic landmark, we're in
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trouble.
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If Russia and China or other actors are
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going to seek to undermine our capabilities in
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space, we're going to be ready for that.
3:23:14
I also would like for our adversaries to
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know what we can do.
3:23:17
There are some things that we can do
3:23:18
that I think would help chill their enthusiasm
3:23:22
for aggression.
3:23:26
I possess a stellar converter, the most powerful
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weapon in the universe.
3:23:36
We do not want there to be war
3:23:38
in space.
3:23:38
We do not want there to be conflict.
3:23:40
We want all of mankind to enjoy its
3:23:41
benefits.
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But...
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The best podcast in the universe.
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Adios, mofo.
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