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Who's Dynamite?
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's November 21st, 2024.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
assassination episode 1714.
This is no agenda.
Available for AGBM.
Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got
Netanyahu, ICBMs, Matt Gaetz.
What's going on?
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
I'm glad you asked breaking at this hour,
John.
Breaking at this hour.
No agenda news can exclusively reveal that Matt
Gaetz has withdrawn from the attorney general position.
Yes, as expected.
Yes.
Gee, didn't we say that would happen?
Well, here's the scenario the way I see
it.
Matt, they definitely wanted to get Rubio in.
And they have to replace him with somebody.
As a senator?
As senators.
So you replace him with Matt Gaetz.
But Matt Gaetz says, hey, I got this
investigation going on.
It's going to be an embarrassment.
You're not going to be able to put
me into Rubio's spot.
Because he wants Rubio.
He wants Matt Gaetz in there to counter.
And you're going to see this.
I guarantee you're going to see them on
the same committees.
Matt Gaetz and the creep from California.
The turtle head guy.
Oh, who slept with the Chinese spy.
No, no.
That's a congressman.
We're talking about senators.
Our new senator.
Schiff.
Adam Schiff.
Schiff.
Okay.
So they need a guy to argue with
Adam Schiff.
So they're going to want to put Gaetz
in there.
So now Gaetz can't get the job with
this investigation going on.
So here's the deal.
And I think Trump, because of the four
years he's been spending scheming, he can come
up with these things faster than he used
to.
He goes, okay, we're going to pick you
for attorney general.
You can quit the house before they release
the report.
There'll be a big kerfuffle.
And then all of a sudden, just before
all shit hits the fan, you quit the
denomination.
Go back to Florida.
You're not in the house anymore.
And then you can be moved into Rubio's
spot before anybody knows what the hell is
going on.
And you're going to be the next senator
from Florida.
I like the theory.
I will add a little twist to that.
Something that I thought would come up in
the combo, but it didn't.
Because I immediately tried to get a clip
of Matt Gaetz resigning.
Oh, I'm sure everyone's all over this.
Breaking, breaking at this hour.
And I couldn't get a clip.
But I did get this.
It's unclear what happens next, though, to your
question of does it matter.
Because Matt Gaetz, remember, was elected to serve
in the 119th Congress.
We are right now in the 118th Congress.
The 119th Congress doesn't take power until January.
And when Matt Gaetz resigned, he said that
he does not intend to take his seat
in the 119th Congress.
But he didn't resign from that Congress because
he can't.
Because that Congress doesn't exist yet.
So if Matt Gaetz wanted to come back
to Congress and serve in his seat come
January, in theory, he could try to do
that.
We do not know if he wants to.
I'm checking in with sources close to Gaetz
right now to figure out that exact question.
What is next here for Matt Gaetz?
But if he wanted to join Congress again
come January, he technically could, Diane.
Oh, technically, yeah, he technically could.
So, well, you know what?
You know what?
It doesn't matter.
It's fun.
Everybody can run around with their hair on
fire, you know, talking about it.
And the culture war economy is, oh, boy,
oh, this.
The Trump.
I have a supercut.
I have a supercut of hair on fire.
This week, Trump has been revealing his cabinet
chock full of loyalists, sycophants and perennial bootlickers.
Matt Gaetz is literally the worst pick in
the world for attorney general.
Significant concerns, horror even.
Somebody said to me today, I can't think
of any single individual who'd be more damaging
to public health than RFK.
He's not going to receive a very warm
welcome from the career folks there.
We've seen people today, our fellow reporters crying,
hugging in the hallways.
Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed secretary of defense, defends
war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white
nationalism and Christian nationalism.
Are completely incompetent, who most American business owners
wouldn't hire to run a taco stand.
The former and future president is moving quickly
to fill the clown car and round out
his cabinet before he changes his mind and
fires them all.
If you've been accused of being weird and
dangerous, it seems like Trump is doubling down
on that.
So television, I'll just call it what it
is.
Television has not taken a moment, not a
beat, not just let's step back.
Well, a couple happens.
Let's just step back for a second and
evaluate what has happened here.
We failed in our mission to discredit Hitler,
to prevent him from ascending his throne because
he's literally a king now.
And it doesn't matter.
Let's just keep it going.
And you know what?
People are falling right in.
Oh, it's great.
Oh, we have more stuff to put on
social media.
Ah, it's groovy.
So much that it's overflowing to new social
media.
Blue sky.
Blue sky.
I had a thing about blue sky.
This was funny.
Where was it?
Here it is.
Blue sky safety.
They have a safety team over there, John.
Just so you know, if you go to
blue sky, if you leave the evil X
and go to blue sky, they have a
safety team.
And they said in the past 24 hours,
we've received more than 42,000 reports, an
all time high for one day.
We're receiving about 3,000 reports an hour.
To put that into context, in all of
2023.
Oh, and then it cuts off for some
reason.
Why is this?
So they didn't even receive that many reports
in all of 2023.
Yeah.
I mean, it's including child sexual abuse material.
I bet there's all kinds of stuff.
And because they have AI doing most of
the work over there.
So it's going to be a disaster.
Now, the other thing is that I found
interesting was somebody reposted it on Twitter.
Of course, the thing about Twitter is that,
you know, all these maniacs just grab stuff
from every place else and post it on
Twitter.
You like TikTok?
Yeah, we got it for you.
You like blue sky?
We got it.
Here you go.
Put it on Twitter.
And so they put it on Twitter.
It's like a big aggregator.
Rob Reiner, you know, has always been threatening
to quit Twitter.
I think he still has an account there.
But now he went blue sky, blue sky.
So he goes to blue sky.
So they find a tweet or tweet or
whatever, a posting on blue sky from Rob
Reiner, who's now complaining that the kind of
creeps that are on Twitter are now over
on blue sky giving him grief.
Gee, surprise.
The hate is so much.
I can't stand it.
Get off of all of that.
None of it's good.
These are digital towers of Babel filled with
A.I. slop in their stairwells.
It's all no good.
But everybody, including my friends, all in.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Megyn Kelly.
Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol.
It goes on and on and on.
Transgender.
Oh, I'll get to that.
But.
That's a classic.
In a rare moment, Lulu over there at
CNN, Lourdes, but everyone calls her Lulu.
She had a rare moment.
I don't think she realized Lulu.
She's we talked about her.
She's the possible spook.
Lourdes.
She's a possible spook is CNN.
What am I saying?
Let me write that down for an idea.
Yeah, come on.
We talked about her.
Lulu.
I don't know who it might have, but
I'll get it for you.
Garcia Navarro.
Lulu Garcia Navarro, of course, also known as
Lulu.
Don't ring a bell.
So Lulu.
Well, they call her Lulu.
Lulu's on the Burnett woman's show.
Six million dollars a year.
Yeah.
Six million dollars a year, we're told.
And she has a rare moment of perfectly,
perfectly describing Trump's appointee strategy, which we deconstructed
two shows ago, I think, of having a
front person who makes all the noise, the
lightning rod, and have someone in the background
who does all the work.
So perfect is the first buddy.
Elon, also known as the modern day Edison
and Vivek, Vivek, I should say Vivek.
Vivek as in cake.
Yeah, people keep saying, you guys, you're always
so precise about pronunciation and words you shouldn't
say, but it's Vivek, so you should say
it right.
Yes, this is right.
You know, we've trained our producers to be
the way we are, which is sticklers for
this sort of thing.
And so now they become sticklers and they
give us grief.
There you go.
So listen to Lulu as she figures it
out.
I still don't think she realizes exactly what
she's figured out.
So look, take a step back.
There's a lot of people who get put
into these jobs who haven't overseen much, right?
So I'm not going to say the fact
that he hasn't overseen something that large is
disqualifying in and of itself.
But the history here is relevant.
The history is relevant.
When I was listening right now, I thought
that what was going to be announced was
Dr. Phil was going to be the surgeon
general.
So at least we're not there yet.
Yet.
But listen, what is happening here is this.
We are now in Donald Trump's TV show.
And this is the world we're living in
now.
He is casting the characters that he wants
to play in his administration.
And the point behind this is actually a
serious one.
They're not just good looking people.
They're very effective communicators who actually are recognizable
to the American public.
If you think about why Donald Trump thinks
he won this election, it's because he was
able to have a consistent message.
People listen to him.
He is recognizable.
And he was palling around with people like
Elon Musk.
He is putting people in these positions that
people know and that can sell his policies.
So whatever he does, there are going to
be people who are able to go out
into the manosphere, into podcasts, on cable news,
and talk about it in a way that
people will relate to.
And I think that's what he's up to.
So I like that she says Donald Trump
thinks he won because of this strategy.
I don't know why she thinks he won.
But this is the strategy.
Absolutely.
Well, if she's a spook, he won because
this whole thing was a scam.
It was set up to win.
It had nothing to do with whatever strategy.
And she knew that.
That's why she said that.
By the way, are we in the manosphere?
We're in the manosphere.
We're in the manosphere.
Welcome to the manosphere.
The manosphere.
I wrote that down as a show title.
Manosphere.
I think it might have been overused by
now.
I mean, yeah.
Manosphere.
Oh, I'll put it down as a possibility.
Manosphere.
So, yeah.
Abby, your girl, Abby.
Abby Phillip.
You had clips of her on the last
show.
Abby Phillip from CNN.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The black newsreader.
Yeah.
So, she was at the Harvard School Institute
of Politics on the panel.
On the panel.
And she's- Boy, you really got to
be- I don't want to say you
have to be hard up for attention.
I've never been invited.
If the Harvard Institute of Politics- You
wouldn't go?
Of course I would.
Do I get a per diem?
Do I get travel expenses?
Then I'm not going.
If you're not going to pay for my
travel expenses and a per diem, I'm not
going to go.
You should get an honorarium at least, not
a per diem.
That would be good.
So, she also comes very close to understanding
what's going on.
And on one hand, I'm delighted because I
love seeing people waking up and, you know,
kind of like Anna Kasparian and Jillian Michaels.
I love seeing these people wake up.
On the other hand, it'll ruin the show
if they figure it out.
I have observed- You know, I know
exactly what you're thinking.
And I agree with the basic thought, but
the hordes of people that aren't going to
figure it out are going to be the
Rob Reiners and the rest of them.
They're always going to be around to keep
the show going.
I have observed that elites increasingly talk only
to each other and come to believe that
because there is consensus among them, that that
consensus is shared broadly.
And there are not enough voices that are
confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives.
And we, as a society, need to find
better ways to uplift divergent voices.
Otherwise, we will be victims of groupthink.
And there is an activist class- I
think this is particularly acute in the Democratic
Party right now.
There is an activist class in the Democratic
Party that is multiracial, multi-ethnic.
It is diverse, but it's an activist class.
And so because of that, they're not able
to see outside of that.
And Republicans had the same problem before Trump.
The heritage foundations of the world, et cetera,
right?
They had the same issue, fundamental issue, but
Trump kind of broke them out of it.
The Democrats are in that place now where
they have to break out of it.
Yeah, they need someone to break them out
of it.
Not that they have one, but they need
to be broken out of that elitist culture.
I love the self-realization.
I think it's healthy.
It's good for them.
Why do they need anyone to break them
out of it?
They were doing fine with it.
They're still doing fine with it.
You just want the show.
They lost an elite.
I mean, I'll take their side.
Okay.
They lost an election, barely.
It could have gone either way, as everyone
noticed.
Yeah, they did win everything, but it's beside
the point.
They'll be corrected in the midterms, and the
Democrats will be right back where they were,
more or less.
At least they'll have enough people in Congress
in one house or the other to stop
Trump, and then they can impeach him again,
because it'd be good to be a third
time would be good.
And the elitist approach that they're using, which
is the right approach, because they're elitists.
If you're an elitist, it's not like you're
going to change.
Well, there's elitist Republicans.
Yeah, there's tons of them.
Yeah.
So what are you saying?
I don't think anything.
I think the few people that are on
the fringes that are, you know, that for
some reason, like Julian Michaels is a good
example, that just got fed up with one
thing or another, or Kasparian, who only got
fed up because she got condemned for being
a racist when she wasn't.
Yeah.
If it wasn't for those little moments of
mistakes made by the elitist, because they're idiots.
They're not elitist at all, really.
If you want elitist, you know, you got
Jacob Rothschild.
There's an elitist.
Is he still alive?
Didn't he just die?
No, he died.
He died, unfortunately.
But the Rothschild family is, you know, that's
real elitism.
It's not, you know, and they're not, they
don't act like this.
These guys are phonies.
They're just academic elitists and they're full of
crap and they're not going to change.
Why would they?
What?
No, no, you're right.
I have a podcast clip.
If you want to hear some dumb, I
have a new category in my clip folder
called Dumb Dems.
Dumb Dems.
Dumb Dems.
These are Dumb Dems.
And I'm not against the, I'm not against
any anyone's political views per se, but these
are Dumb Dems.
And this is the Slate Political Gab Fest
podcast.
And so they're discussing...
It's from Slate?
Yes, from Slate.
Washington Post.
Yes.
And so they're discussing this very issue.
And it's incredible that the young woman who
is going to explain what is going on,
she has the most Dumb Dem vocal fry
I've ever heard as she explains this.
If you need to interrupt and stop it,
let me know.
Emily, last question on this topic.
Do you think, as some have argued, I
think Ezra Klein has argued this, that the
Democrats are a party that roots out heretics
and doesn't look for converts?
Or is that actually true?
Does the party need to have a kind
of broad, encompassing, welcoming attitude that it doesn't
have?
I think that right now the party is
associated with a lot of purity tests.
Mike Peska of the podcast The Gist wrote
a piece in The Atlantic this week comparing
the Democratic Party to HR departments, talking about
them as like being the sort of fussy
place of compliance and language policing and rules,
none of which is a whole lot of
fun, even though it's sometimes necessary.
And I thought that was a good metaphor
for capturing what doesn't feel broadly welcoming.
I think to a lot of people as
we're thinking about this today, and I was
writing, how do we describe deportation policies?
And my natural instinct, maybe it's because I'm
badly trained on decades of false language, is
to say illegal immigrants or even illegal aliens.
And I'm like, oh, but am I allowed
to say that anymore?
I better not say that.
I should say undocumented.
And am I supposed to say undocumented immigrants?
Undocumented.
Do you see the struggle?
These people?
Do you see the the torment?
No.
Torment.
Great.
The torment.
People undocumented.
They're tormented by their own set of procedure
procedures.
They have this rule based party.
It's rule based.
Rule based.
And you've got this, this, you got to
do this.
You got to use pronouns.
You got to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to wear a badge that says
I'm a him, her.
You got to do that.
It's all these rules.
And it's like this.
It's like the bureaucracy just boiled into like
a party.
People undocumented.
And I was like, I don't even know
what to do.
And I feel like there's a whole bunch
of GabFest listeners are going to judge me
based on whatever language I've used.
So it's obviously, that's a very extremely tiny
example.
But it did occur to me today.
It's not that tiny.
I mean, I think there is, to me,
something troubling about calling a person illegal.
Like they know if that bothers you.
Of course.
Of course.
But I do agree with you that deciding
that that means that you have to excommunicate
someone is a different step.
From hearing it and wondering whether that's really
a good idea or not.
I had to get the fry in there.
The fry.
The fry.
The fry.
So now that's all good and fine.
But if you are trying to break out
of the mold, and you may have the
other motives such as, oh my God, they're
going to sell our station.
And you're like.
I have a bunch of clips.
Yeah.
I know.
I know.
I'm leading you into it.
Thank you.
They're going to sell the station.
I have to before you go in this.
I had to turn on CNBC this morning.
I wanted to see what's going on anyway.
Yeah.
And so they're all freaked out about it
because I'll tell you this.
If you want to put a name on
the list of someone who's going to come
out of this just fine.
Is this Kelly Evans woman?
She's the one who's the most talented presenter
on CNBC.
Person of all very good.
Is she the blonde?
No, no, no.
She's a brunette.
She's black hair.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, she and she is just she never
flubs.
She's fast on her feet.
She knows what she's doing.
She is a she should be one of
the nightly news anchors.
She might be just a bit too young.
And they may have put a few years
on her by putting her in something else.
But she's the one who come out ahead
on this whole thing, even though you can
tell she's worried sick.
They're always at CNBC.
And I think CNBC got the short end
of this deal.
You're moving ahead.
You're moving ahead too fast.
OK, OK, go on.
You take it.
Stop me first.
First, we have to stick with MSNBC, the
weakest sister of the bunch.
And Joe and Mika went to see President
elect Trump and talk with them.
I actually have clips, but I don't think
I'll play those because they're just so annoying.
And they're like, oh, well, you know, we're
not doing this to kiss the ring.
Well, yeah, that's not what Rosie O'Donnell thought.
So Mika and Joe went down to Mar
-a-Lago to kiss the ring.
It's the last time I ever watched Morning
Joe.
Oh, no.
Period.
End of statement.
Unreal.
Unreal.
For months, you were telling us he's the
worst thing that could happen to this country
and democracy.
And then you go kiss his ring.
Despicable.
Despicable you.
Both of you.
Despicable you.
So what is she got a band in
the house there?
Where's that music coming from?
What is she?
She's doing a this is a tick tock
video and she's got an orchestra.
What is this music?
No, she's she's the kind of woman who
has that playing in her in her Manhattan
apartment.
You know, boy, man, from the because, you
know, I, I help, you know, she has
12 Emmys.
Do you know that I helped her get
her first job?
Pray tell that we're all now we're all
stopped to show us stop for a story.
Rosie O'Donnell was doing comedy stand up at
it was in West Orange made the name.
It's something like chuckles.
Obviously, I can't remember.
Yuck, yuck.
I can't remember what the name of it
was.
And Steve leads, who also lives in New
Jersey.
Steve is guy who hired me when I
was still in in Amsterdam.
Steve is still with us.
A good guy.
I talked to him maybe twice a year.
And so Steve had seen her.
He's like, she would be great for VH1
as a because, you know, MTV own VH1
as a VJ.
And so he brought her in and I
had to I think she the way it
was set up is she would have to
interview me and then do some segments and
which she did.
And, you know, she made fun of me
and it was kind of cute.
And she was back then.
Rosie O'Donnell had a pretty good stick.
It was pretty funny.
And she got hired for VH1 as a
VJ.
And that's how she started.
So I'll take some blame for it.
You should.
You should take all the blame.
So I'm going to lead you into your
into your clips.
First, with a with a little background.
So this is about the Comcast spin off.
And here's a I got this article from
where is this?
This is from CNBC itself.
There you go.
So just some data that's in here.
Cord cutting continues to impact the traditional TV
business.
Comcast lost three hundred and sixty five thousand
customers during the third quarter.
The industry overall lost roughly four million traditional
paying customers in the first six months of
the year.
Still traditional TV networks, TV networks remain cash
cows for media business.
Comcast reported in October that third quarter revenue
for its media segment, which is comprised of
the TV network, was nearly up 37 percent
to eight point two three billion, largely due
to the Olympics.
Without the summer games, revenue was up five
percent.
Disney executives recently said they do not plan
to separate their TV networks anytime soon, noting
the complexities of doing so, but they kind
of would like to do so.
So I got a clip from Bill O
'Reilly, who was still a blow hard.
I have that clip in my series.
Well, can I can I play it first?
The one with Cuomo?
Yeah.
You want me to play it now, just
since I have it racked up?
Or do you want to do your series?
You know, that's interesting.
Yes.
You have the whole thing.
Minute 40.
My O'Reilly clip is 248.
I play.
I have the whole thing.
OK, then why don't you go?
Which is interruptible.
You can interrupt.
Yeah.
Go into yours.
Do you want me to play that one
first?
Well, no, because I want to I have
the same clip, but I have the I
have a longer version, which may be more.
Yeah, but do this.
Do your series, whatever you want to do.
I'm glad you brought this up because I
didn't know if I should put the O
'Reilly thing at the beginning or I should
put it at the end of the series.
But since you brought it up, let's start
playing that clip that you talked about.
He's he's on Cuomo on news.
Cuomo, who is still a dope, by the
way, he's just a dope.
He doesn't know anything.
I think he even says, oh, I only
know what the news says.
OK, news boy.
Exactly.
I agree.
I agree with that.
Yes, he's kind of a he's just a
you know, he's a he's a percent.
He's a presentable male.
He's just dope.
Comcast said you two were going to have
to try to mend some cliche fences and
you two are going to go in there
and you're going to try.
He's talking about Joe and Mika here.
Yes, he's talking about Joe and Mika.
Going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you if this clip is interrupted,
there's a spot where they talk about Sonny
Hoskins.
Yeah, that's important, too.
That's where you're going to stop.
I think you have.
Yeah, well, you're going to stop it.
OK, I to tamp it down because Comcast
knew the next day they were going to
announce that MSNBC is vapor.
That is a huge media story.
Why is it vapor?
Just because they're putting them in the spitting
off a bunch of spin off.
There is a spin off company.
There's no spin off that.
See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo.
Oh, OK.
See what I mean?
I'm just saying what's being reported.
By the way, I don't know what O
'Reilly is talking about here, but there is
a spin off and there are executives moving
over and it will be its own entity.
It is technically what's the name of it?
Spin Co.
No, really?
You believe that really is it called spin?
You're kidding me.
I'm not getting a spin.
Co.
That's like new Co.
I mean, you're dead.
So you're dead when you're spun off into
spin Co LLC.
All right.
But how do what do you know?
Yeah, I know.
But why would you believe what's being reported?
You want the real story?
Yes, please.
So they're uncoupling their word Comcast MSNBC from
NBC News.
That means MSNBC is no resources at all.
Not they're not going to be able to
pay these people millions of dollars, racial matter,
whatever she's making.
NBC News is saying we don't want you
around.
Why?
Because NBC News's numbers, Lester Holt and The
Today Show are catastrophe because half the country
equates NBC News with MSNBC and they won't
watch.
So NBC is desperately trying to save the
mothership of information and they have to throw
MSNBC overboard.
They're not putting anything into MSNBC.
They want to sell it.
So where's Georgie Soros now?
Georgie's buying radio stations.
You can get MSNBC for nothing.
OK, first of all, weak to say Georgie's
buying radio stations.
We know what's really going on there.
But the radio station is very different from
this MSNBC without the cable network.
So that's a little weak from O'Reilly.
Why, why, why?
I'm going to talk to you like this.
Let me tell you, the spinoff of the
cable companies are suffering dwindling.
Why?
Well, that's because that's a very annoying thing
he does.
This is you.
You had some comments about Cuomo.
I'll have a comment about O'Reilly.
I think he's a blowhard and a prick.
OK, they'll give it to you.
They don't want any more of this.
Why?
Because it's hateful.
Not because it's so far left.
The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left,
but it's hateful.
You see, I disagree with this, too.
I mean, not that they're hateful, but if
hateful works, which it did for a long
time, they wouldn't putting it and be putting
into spinco.
They'd be giving him medals.
But it's just not working anymore.
They were, you know, when this little history
lesson out there, you have to remember that
MSNBC, which I had worked for for a
while.
I was there.
I was there at the launch before they
had before they had.
Before Princess Diana died, that's when it changed.
It was it was kind of a normal.
It was Microsoft and MSNBC is supposed to
be a tech channel.
It was Microsoft.
Yeah.
Microsoft NBC.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then eventually NBC just bought Microsoft out,
but they kept the name.
And then it became a kind of a
gossipy channel because the princess died.
And then it still was languishing.
And so the guy who I have to
say he probably made it what it was
during the Bush administration was Keith Olbermann.
Yes.
Good point.
He came on with a hateful.
Yeah.
Show.
And he and he's a hateful guy, very
hateful, and he he's the one who trained
Rachel Maddow.
And he mentored her to be the jerk
that she is, and she's the one who
trained the other guy, the the the guy
with the glasses.
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Hayes.
Chris Hayes.
She trained him.
So he's the third generation of hater.
Chris the queen.
And so so so it has a checkered
past, but it really, really got its start
during the hateful era of Olbermann.
And and I'd just like to say to
trolls and I've seen this floating around and
also good friends of mine text me this.
Hey, Elon might buy MSNBC and then make
sure to do a good channel.
MSNBC by itself is not worth anything without
the distribution.
The problem is the cord cutting.
That is the problem.
You know, what people watch these channels the
most right now is on YouTube TV.
YouTube TV is the biggest distributor of what
used to be cable programming by far.
For good reason.
Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs.
It's cheaper.
Tons of reasons for it.
I don't even know if they're making money
on it.
I don't think I can't believe that they
are.
I don't think they don't care that DVR
thing.
You could break them.
Yeah, here we go.
But it's hateful.
They hate Trump.
They hate people who vote for Trump.
Everybody knows that.
And you know what's next?
The view.
All right.
I'll stop it right there.
And this is why I kept this clip.
I didn't even know you had it.
I missed it in your lineup.
But I did see you had the Sonny
Hoskins reading.
So I'll let him intro what you had
to do.
Well, let him finish his thought because he
mentions this and then we'll cut to the
Sonny Hoskins.
I want to thank one of our producers
for sending me.
I've seen these Hoskins things a couple of
times.
I never recorded him.
Somebody sent him to me.
I said, oh, I should have recorded him.
I can tell because they're a little below
your level.
They won't be the same.
I noticed right away.
Oh, you didn't make that clip.
Someone else did.
All right, here we go.
Yeah, you can tell from the waveform.
Sure.
Yeah.
ABC News is going to have to cut
ties with the view.
And you saw that today or yesterday when
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
in the middle of a segment.
The lawyers got in or get whoopie Goldberg's
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
on a teleprompter.
She reads it.
All right.
She reads.
So now this is actually quite funny because
Hoskins is off the deep end anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so she is.
She she goes off and she basically slanders
on the on the air gates.
Is this the first clip?
The view.
Yeah, clip one.
OK.
And within the Department of Justice, you have
the sex crimes unit, which is what I
was a part of child sex crimes and
child trafficking.
How could you nominate someone with allegations of
child trafficking across or trafficking across state lines
and having sex with a 17 year old?
My understanding further on in the interview, they
discussed the fact that once he finds out
that she's 17, he stops having sex with
her.
Well, statutory sex doesn't require you to know
what age the person is.
It only requires the age.
Oh, man, she's just basing this on hearsay,
no?
Yeah.
Hearsay.
And the other thing is, you first of
all, you have to kind of visualize what
what is he having sex in a in
a room full of people?
I don't know.
Hey, she's always she's only 17, Matt.
You better get off her.
Oh, OK.
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
But so within five minutes.
Oh, this is the same show.
Yeah, this is within five minutes, five minutes
after she said this.
Wow.
Somebody who obviously put a bug in Rosie's
ear and they put it on the property.
Not Rosie, whoopee, whoopee, not Rosie, whoopee.
Oh, that's funny.
I said Rosie.
Yeah.
Whoopee whoopee hears that.
Oh, you better take care of this.
And so Sonny Hoskins reads from a prompter.
What's the next clip?
She reads.
But it's the look on her face.
She is so steamed up that she has
to do this because it's humiliating.
It's it's basically humiliation that she's doing this.
But here she goes.
Sonny, you have a legal.
I do have a legal.
No, thank you, whoopee.
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations calling
the claims, quote, invented.
And saying in a statement to ABC News
that this false smear following a three year
criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism
that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges
being brought.
We'll be right back.
Now, do you think that Gaetz can still
go after her because of the of the
read?
Like your read was not serious.
You still slandered me.
I mean, would that be possible?
I think it's possible.
I don't think it's going to happen, but
it's possible because then more than one or
two commentators have said this.
Oh, really?
You just said you're number three saying that,
hey, this is not a sincere apology by
any means, because she was just her jaw
clenched as she read this.
And she was not a happy camper.
Do you want to go back to O
'Reilly or are we good?
Do we need to go back to O
'Reilly?
No.
Yeah.
Go back to O'Reilly because it does
get pretty good.
But it's hateful.
Oh, hold on.
They hate Trump.
And you saw that today or yesterday when
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
in the middle of a segment.
The lawyers got in her get whoopie Goldberg's
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
on a teleprompter.
She reads it.
So it is over for these far left
networks.
Done.
Never coming back.
Dracula's stake in the heart.
Who benefits?
News Nation may.
But CNN, which is on the ropes, too,
will probably get some MSNBC viewers.
There you go.
What do you think of that?
Well, I'm certainly not going to accuse him
of not making sense.
You know, I disagree.
It's the problem is the cord cutting and
the expenses.
Is that so?
No, I'm I.
Yes.
In fact, when you listen to.
Well, here's this one more clip in the
series.
This is NBC spinoffs is an NPR version
of the event.
Yeah, got it.
Well, company Comcast says it will spin off
many of its networks that were once at
the center of the entertainment giants offerings comes
as people are increasingly trading their cable TV
subscriptions for streaming services like Netflix and Hulu.
Comcast will spin off USA, Oxygen, E, sci
fi and golf channels, as well as CNBC
and MSNBC.
Yeah, the CNBC thing is rough for them.
I like CNBC.
That's kind of rough.
They're getting a CNBC.
Well, it's very expensive.
They're going to take this very expensive.
And why do they keep Bravo and not
CNBC?
Because Bravo is a cable channel.
It's not over.
The Bravo is a super moneymaker.
I guess so.
Oh, yeah.
The franchise that they have with Real Housewives
and all that stuff, it's it's massive.
Now, that's really real.
That's that's just huge.
But the logic, I'm just saying the logic
is not a cord cutting.
I mean, Bravo does rely on cable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But but they got to keep something.
And CNBC, that's got to be so expensive.
That's, you know, whenever you're doing live stuff,
that's expensive right there.
It's just expensive.
So the salaries need to come down.
We need new talent.
If you and I were doing it, you
know, and I think that one of the
top bosses of NBC is going to run
the spin spin co.
Or maybe yes, the guy who actually had
the he had MSNBC under his wing already.
OK, and they just get them moving him
out with the with the rest of it
now.
But this problem is not just television, the
Washington Post.
And this was was this actually an article
in The Post?
This was an article.
No, New York, New York, The New York
Magazine.
So there was a meeting.
There was a meeting at The Washington Post.
Even before 250,000 digital readers unsubscribed, I'm
unsubscribing Bezos from The Washington Post in protest
in protest.
The paper was on track to lose as
at least as much money as it lost
last year.
Seventy seven million.
A deputy manager editor shared the figure in
a recent meeting with reporters and editors per
multiple sources.
The editor did not say what the added
impact of the non endorsement exodus would be.
So it's going to be even more mind
blowing.
One staffer put it.
The level of anger is through the roof
and fear is also through the roof.
There's huge concern that Bezos is going to
pull the plug.
Yeah, well, he's not going to pull the
plug on the on the national newspaper.
Elon, you should buy Washington Post.
Elon, buy buy MSNBC and The Washington Post.
Elon, go ahead, Elon.
Please.
MSNBC staffers in a panic, in a panic.
So it's the changing landscape.
We knew the Internet would do this eventually.
We just had to wait a quarter of
a century.
But here it is.
Here it is.
It did take longer than you think.
Oh, goodness.
We were we were popping the champagne corks
in ninety nine like, oh, it's going to
be the end of it.
Well, it'll be over.
What were we thinking?
What were we thinking?
All right.
So I think we're done with with with
the M5M.
The next thing that we need to move
on to, because there's just such fear and
uncertainty and oh, yes, doubt that has crept
in.
And are we in World War three?
And what are we doing?
And Biden's going out with a bang.
And here is a short introductory clip.
In a big reversal, President Biden will now
let Ukraine use long range missiles supplied by
the U.S. to hit inside Russia.
Until now, the president had resisted this position,
concerned it could escalate Russia's war in Ukraine
into something even larger.
Kelly O'Donnell is traveling with the president in
Brazil.
And Kelly, this move coming as President Biden
only has a couple of months left in
office seems meant to send a message.
Exactly right, Hallie.
Good evening.
This is a notable shift in policy.
Two U.S. officials tell NBC News the
Biden administration is giving Ukraine the green light
to use American made long range weapons for
limited strikes inside Russia.
Until now, President Biden had restricted the use
of American made weapons to the Ukrainian battlefield
to prevent a wider war.
But the president is also alarmed by North
Korea sending thousands of its own soldiers to
help Russia.
And given the sensitivity of this change and
military operations, the White House and the Pentagon
are not commenting publicly on this.
So there's a couple of things that bothered
me right away.
First of all, Biden's roaming around there in
South America.
And by the way, it's not Biden.
It's daddy long legs.
He's jumping around.
He's got the aviators on.
Won't talk to the press.
Won't won't say anything.
There's why I liked it when he walked
into the jungle.
Did you hear the news?
The media was so desperate to get a
quote.
They're yelling at him.
Yeah.
Here, listen to this.
Yeah, you know, it just doesn't come through.
I had that clip and it was just
I said it's not you can't hear it.
I'm sure the audience.
Well, I did it.
I did it.
It is funny because she's screaming her head
off and he won't even acknowledge her existence.
He's just because you're right.
It's daddy long legs.
Is that other guy?
So there's a number of issues.
One, the story is based as far as
I can tell on reporting from Associated Press.
And so I was able to trace it
back to that.
And here's what they report.
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use
U.S. supplied missiles to strike deeper inside
Russia.
They're not saying attack comes here.
Easing limitations on the longer range weapons as
Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to
reinforce its war, according to a U.S.
official and three other people familiar with the
matter.
So there is zero publication of what's going
on here.
You know, there's nothing in the register.
There's nothing on WhiteHouse.gov. We're just accepting
that the media has told us this is
taking place.
And we have zero evidence of we got
all kinds of videos of of shooting, shooting
cannons and tanks.
And but we have no North Korea, the
North Korean dudes running around 10,000 of
them, apparently 10,000 of them.
I don't see that.
There's some good, funny reports about the North
Koreans shooting at the Russians, though.
It's very humorous.
Well, and then there's confusion because Ukraine has
other long range missiles which aren't from the
U.S. Tonight, a new escalation video circulating
online appears to show massive explosions rocking Russia's
Kursk region.
The Wall Street Journal reporting Ukraine launching at
least 10 British made storm shadow cruise missiles.
Ukraine not commenting.
Ukraine fighting to hold on to a small
patch of Russian territory it holds in Kursk
to use as leverage.
But Russian forces, assisted by thousands of North
Korean soldiers, are slowly pushing them back.
The U.S. in another policy reversal now
allowing Ukraine to use anti-personnel landmines to
try to slow the Russians down.
And amid growing fears about Russian retaliation, the
U.S. embassy in Kyiv closing down for
much of the day.
We were given exclusive access to the secret
command center of the elite Ukrainian heartier brigade
in Kharkiv.
Here, drone operators launch attacks on Russian troops.
For Ukrainians, we do not have a choice.
We have to fight because we are fighting
for our land and for our way of
life, for our freedom.
But this morning, the U.S. embassy in
Kyiv shutting down warning of a potential significant
air attack by Russia.
Staff being told to shelter in place and
other embassies also closing as these tensions rise
between the U.S. and Ukraine and Russia.
So as you dig into this U.K.
missiles, again, it's the media saying this.
Neither the U.K. nor the Ukrainian government
have confirmed it, but British media say they
have numerous sources.
And also Russian military bloggers are saying that
it was storm shadow missiles that were used.
It's on a town called Maryino in Kursk
region in Russia, only about 40 kilometers, actually,
from the Ukrainian border.
There's one video doing the rounds on social
media made by somebody in that town.
You can't see the missiles, but you hear
them flying in and you hear him becoming
increasingly agitated as one after another.
No video.
Yeah.
And then Moscow says, oh, no, we shot
down five of the six.
I won't play the clip because it gets
a little tedious.
So, oh, these are the great attack.
They shot down five of the six.
Luckily, on the soon to be spun off
spinco CNBC, there was a rare moment of
spin down and information that was actually useful
from a guy from the Brookings Institute.
For more insights on this move, we want
to bring in Michael O'Hanlon.
He's senior fellow and director of research for
foreign policy at the Brookings Institution.
And Mike, you were the first person I
thought of when I heard this report.
What does this mean?
It sounds like Biden is trying to help
Zelensky maybe get the best possible positioning he
can before the Trump administration comes in and
potentially forces a deal with Russia.
Hi, Becky.
Well, that's part of it.
But I also think it's just sort of
the most natural, relatively small, somewhat symbolic gesture
that can be made in response to the
North Korean involvement.
Because, as you know, the permission to use
these weapons is limited to that very small
part of Russia, where the North Koreans are
now fighting to try to drive the Ukrainians
out.
And moreover, we've known this kind of a
decision might be coming for a long time.
President Biden's made decisions like this before.
So I doubt very much that Russia and
North Korea allow themselves to have big troop
concentrations or vulnerable headquarters within range of these
missiles.
And moreover, it seems like we've told the
world about the decision before we gave the
Ukrainians permission.
So any element of surprise has probably been
lost.
So I think it has to be seen
more in the context of the diplomacy of
the war and trying to make sure the
North Koreans don't come in in larger numbers
rather than any effort to make a decisive
military difference on the battlefield.
Exactly.
It's not that big a deal.
Everybody's got their hair on fire.
Oh, Putin said, oh, I'm going to escalate
my rules.
Well, yeah, of course he's going to say
that.
It's tit for tat.
This is typical, typical war gaming.
And yes, everybody knew that the attack was
coming.
I read from the Supplemental Appropriations Act 2024,
Section 505, while you're picking up the phone.
Transfer of long-range attack is required as
soon as practicable after the date of enactment
of this act.
The president shall transfer long-range army tactical
missile systems, ATACMS, to the government of Ukraine
to assist the government of Ukraine in defending
itself and achieving victory against the Russian Federation.
If the president determines that executing the transfer
of long-range army tactical missile systems to
the government of Ukraine pursuant to Subsection A
would be detrimental to the national security interests
of the United States, the president may withhold
such transfer, which he, of course, has done
so far.
And then he has to issue a report
to the Committees on Appropriations and Foreign Relations
of the Senate and of the House.
So none of that happened.
What did happen, what did happen is there
was a memorandum on the 15th, memorandum on
the delegation of authorities under Section 507D and
508A.
Because I went looking, hey, wait a minute.
Don't tell me he let Anthony Blinken take
care of these ATACMS. No.
D, so 507D is cancellation of indebtedness.
Yes, this is exactly right.
This was the cover-up for what you're
just about to read, which I think is
just abhorrent.
So the president can, may not before November
15th, 2024, so this came out on the
15th, take any action related to the indebtedness
of the government of Ukraine that cancels any
indebtedness incurred by Ukraine pursuant to this section.
So that has been transferred to the Secretary
of State.
And so now Blinken can, if he hasn't
already, cancel Ukraine's debt to us.
Thanks a lot.
According to this morning's report, $4.7 billion
of loan forgiveness was released.
Right off the top.
I have no idea what the total is
going to be, but already the so-called
loan is bullcrap.
I mean, we have been taken for a
ride.
Not only is it a cover-up for
this, but it's also a cover-up for
that.
For the seventh consecutive time, the Department of
Defense could not fully account for how it
spends taxpayer dollars.
In the latest audit, the Pentagon could not
track billions of dollars.
The Defense Department's budget.
Over $800 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
For the 2024 fiscal year is $842 billion,
just over 12% of the total federal
budget.
Comptroller Mike McCord stating in a release that
despite the audit revealing areas for improvement, the
department has, quote, turned a corner and, quote,
momentum is on our side.
Now, I got this clip because, and this
was from News Nation, they did some very
interesting inserts here, which we'll discuss after the
clip plays out.
The Pentagon's reliance on private contractors, which account
for more than $400 billion annually, over half
the defense budget, according to USAspending.gov. From
jet fighters to missile systems, companies like Lockheed
Martin, Boeing and Raytheon secure multi-billion dollar
contracts each year.
These contracts have drawn scrutiny for cost overruns,
delays and insufficient oversight.
We're not going to be cutting ribbons, we're
going to be cutting costs.
President-elect Donald Trump vowing to reduce wasteful
federal spending with the newly created Department of
Government Efficiency, or DOGE, tapping billionaires Vivek Ramaswamy
and Elon Musk to lead the charge.
Our defense budget is pretty gigantic, it's a
trillion dollars, but the interest that we owe
on the debt is now higher than the
defense budget, over a trillion dollars and growing.
The failed audit revealing the Department of Defense
continues to face difficulties in tracking and reporting
property, equipment and inventory, preventing an accurate report
of a clear money trail.
This is about restoring self-governance and accountability
in America.
Most of the people making these decisions, from
healthcare to the Department of Defense, are failing
on effectiveness because they have no accountability.
Though DOGE is not an official agency and
Congress controls budget for federal agencies, the hope
of the president-elect is that the initiative,
which ends in 2026, can help the Pentagon
pass its first audit by 2028.
So I'm pretty sure all this noise was
definitely partially used or intended to cover up
this failed audit seventh time in a row.
And I love that News Nation, you know,
chopped in the DOGE boys saying, billionaire Vivek
Ramaswamy, I didn't know he was a billionaire,
but the DOGE boys, how much you want
to bet that they're not going to start
with the Department of Defense?
I have a very hard time seeing Elon
Musk saying, yeah, no, there's wasteful spending on
those rockets and that stuff.
You can't have that.
No, we'll see if they go after the
Department of Defense.
But these types of distractions for massive audit
failures within the Department of Defense go back
to 2001.
Yeah, that would have been perfect.
We are, as they say, tangled in our
anchor chain.
Our financial systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2
.3 trillion in transactions.
We cannot share information from floor to floor
in this building because it's stored on dozens
of different technological systems that are inaccessible or
incompatible.
We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base
infrastructure than we need to support our forces
and an annual waste to taxpayers of some
$3 to $4 billion.
That was Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th, 2001.
You know, we didn't talk about defense issues
for a long time after that.
In addition, this is NATO freaking out about
Trump, freaking out about they.
They are freaked out.
We need to have more noise going on
in Russia with Russia and Ukraine, more stuff
to talk about.
We need to get as much money out
as we can.
And you know what?
Why don't we do an exercise while we're
at it?
This forest in Lapland is within Russian missile
range.
It's the first NATO military exercise since the
re-election of Donald Trump.
And as French artillery fires alongside U.S.
Army rocket launchers, the threat of American disengagement
is on everyone's minds.
This French colonel who is in charge here
doesn't want to consider this scenario.
NATO is important and so is France's role
in this military power.
NATO is vital for us and our partners.
Vital, especially as Russian President Vladimir Putin once
again raises the threat of a nuclear attack.
And for his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, a
U.S. withdrawal would mean a defeat for
Ukraine.
I can't predict the future.
I'll say the U.S. has been a
founding member of NATO for 75 years.
And I only see that continuing.
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022,
the United States have deployed in Europe some
90,000 soldiers from their naval and air
forces.
And as NATO allies await Donald Trump's first
decisions, war simulations remain on the agenda.
This whole report was set up to say
we need NATO.
NATO is important.
Finland, brand new NATO member.
They're in Finland doing these exercises within range
of these weapons, within Russian range of these
weapons.
The people speaking, they've got the good looking
uniforms on.
You know, yeah, it's camo, but it's freshly
pressed.
And they're not running through some mud doing
exercises.
They're due to do PR, promotion.
Oh, and while we're out at Finland, oh,
you should be very worried.
You really need NATO too.
This morning, questions about potential sabotage.
After two underwater Internet cables connecting parts of
Europe to the NATO countries of Finland and
Sweden were severed under the Baltic Sea, a
cargo ship in the area owned by a
Chinese company has raised suspicion.
Local authorities now tracking the ship that said
sail from Russia.
Unconfirmed reports claim the captain is Russian.
European officials not directly blaming Russia for the
disconnected cables, but Germany and Finland saying our
European security is not only under threat from
Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, but also
from hybrid warfare by malicious actors.
Hybrid warfare is a term that could include
unconventional tactics like cyber attacks.
Speaking generally, we are incredibly concerned about hybrid
warfare conducted by Russia, both in Europe and
around the world.
And it's something that we have been in
close coordination with our European allies.
It comes as Ukraine launches British made cruise
missiles into Russia for the first time.
After President Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American
long range missiles into Russian territory.
So we don't even know if attackers were
fired.
It's still these British shadow missiles.
And we're freaking out the new NATO members.
Oh, oh, the captain was Russian.
Hey, probably.
And I talked to Sir von der Helm.
I said, how's your Internet?
No problem with the Internet.
These were Internet cables.
There's no issue.
So I don't know exactly what's going on.
But we have to sigh up the Finnish
and Swedish people one more time.
How to prepare for the possibility of war?
That's the question addressed in this pamphlet sent
out to more than 5 million Swedes.
The booklet was written by the Swedish Civil
Contingencies Agency and provides practical tips for dealing
with crises, such as war, natural disasters or
cyber attacks.
We actually have to prepare for the worst
case scenario, a war scenario, not that we
necessarily think that there will be war, but
we really need to have that preparedness and
need to include the population in that preparedness.
The 32-page brochure gives logistical advice from
stocking up on food and water and growing
your own vegetables to finding reliable sources of
information and locating bomb shelters.
It also provides mental health advice on how
to deal with anxiety caused by the possibility
of war.
With simple ideas like talking about concerns to
friends and family, helping others to feel useful,
exercising or limiting the barrage of negative news
about the world.
The initiative has sparked intense debate in a
society unaccustomed to the reality of war.
But the Swedes are not the only ones
taking precautions.
Their Finnish neighbours, who share a 1,340
-kilometre-long border with Russia, have also set
up a website offering similar advice.
In 2022, after the Russian invasion began, the
two countries asked to join NATO, thus abandoning
several decades of military non-alignment.
So there it is, in my nutshell.
This is a bunch of bullcrap.
And don't be worried about World War III
starting and Biden going out with a bang.
This is all just typical PR to cover
up the audit, to cover up the debt
forgiveness, and to keep NATO looking very important.
And oh, boy, we can't.
No, Trump, you can't pull us out of
NATO.
That would be horrible.
This is public relations slash propaganda.
I can't argue.
No, it's the basic thesis.
You can't argue.
It's totally prepare for war.
Oh, my, my, my.
Well, we can take a look at the
three by three, which is about Ukraine shooting
these missiles.
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
I feel woefully unprepared.
I didn't even realise you had a three
by three.
Now it's time for three by three.
Experiment by J.C.D. Comparing stories from
ABC, CBS and NBC.
The never-ending three by three.
All right, Steve Jones on the ball once
again.
It's good to have him back with a
three by three.
Let's find out what's going on in US
propaganda of this war, this horrible turn of
events.
Start with ABC.
Tonight, Ukraine firing the first American-made long
-range missiles into Russia.
Targeting an ammunition store in the Bryansk border
region, seen in video circulating online.
A US official telling ABC News eight missiles
known as Atakoms were fired and two intercepted.
The Kremlin appearing to threaten possible use of
nuclear weapons in response.
But the Pentagon saying there are no signs
it's preparing to do so.
Russia already attacking Ukraine, though, day and night.
We joined drone hunters trying to intercept attacks.
Suddenly, an incoming drone.
You can hear it in the sky.
The team scours the skies and opens fire.
These drone hunters are out every night across
the country as Russia sends more and more
drone across the border into Ukrainian cities.
The drone gets away as the team works
through the night, defending family, country and freedom.
David, today marks 1,000 days of full
-scale war in Ukraine.
And despite all these talks about peace plans,
there's no clear end in sight.
They haven't.
So, wow, they have different numbers.
They've got eight drone, eight Atakoms.
Two were shot.
How?
I thought these Atakoms were like the big
deal.
They suck.
They're not doing anything.
One of them broke up in the sky
and fell down and hit someone.
But that seems to be happening a lot
with these missiles.
Okay, well, let's go to...
These are all the same report, but let's
go to CBS's version of the same report.
I love the opening.
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
-made Atakoms into Russia.
Which U.S. officials?
Who?
Give me a name.
If we're at war, if we are at
war...
By the way, if it's a U.S.
official, they're not anonymous.
Well, unless they're lying about it.
Or, you know, the U.S. officials spoke
on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized
to talk about it.
This is bullcrap.
If we're at...
We now know because Tucker Carlson and Glenn
Greenwald did a whole show about it.
We're at war now because it takes Americans
to operate these and we have to have
our U.S. satellite tracking technology.
But we're at war.
You didn't get the clip either.
No, I couldn't watch it.
I just saw that.
I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch
this.
I was tempted to get the part that
you just said.
You summarized faster than Greenwald ever could.
It's like, oh, please.
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
-made Atakoms into Russia.
The target was a military facility in...
And let's just...
Let's just...
Sorry to interrupt, but let's just determine what
Russia is, okay?
This is a border region that the Ukrainians...
That's that 1,000 square meters or whatever
that they went into.
It's that area.
It's not...
When they say into Russia, it's not Moscow.
You know, it's where the actual skirmish is
taking place.
And you notice that they say Kursk region,
not the Kursk region.
So be like, well, these missiles were shot
in Kursk region.
It's the...
I want to say the Kursk region.
Anyway, I'm not at CBS, so...
American-made Atakoms into Russia.
The target was a military facility in the
Bryansk region of southern Russia, according to the
Russian Defense Ministry.
U.S. officials say the Russians may have
shot down two of the missiles, powerful weapons
with a maximum range of close to 200
miles.
First of all, it's going to help our
troops right now at the front lines.
Aleksandra Ustinova is a member of Ukraine's parliament
who told us she lobbied the U.S.
government to allow Ukraine to use the Atakoms
deep inside Russia.
The U.S. only agreed to it two
days ago, worried it could escalate the conflict.
Are you angry that the U.S. didn't
give Ukraine permission earlier to use the Atakoms
deep inside Russia?
I'm really disappointed that every decision that the
U.S. government is making comes about six
months later than it was needed.
Russia accuses the U.S. of adding fuel
to the fire, and today Vladimir Putin approved
a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine, lowering the
threshold for a nuclear strike.
A U.S. official called that irresponsible rhetoric.
President Biden allowed the broader use of Atakoms
after more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers
were deployed to Russia, bolstering Moscow's forces.
Today, Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky, warned that number
could grow to 100,000.
Today marks 1,000 days since Vladimir Putin
launched his invasion.
We were here when it began, Nora, and
we've witnessed Ukrainians lose their homes, their limbs,
and their lives in a war they never
wanted.
I just want to add my own sound
effects from time to time.
All right, so that's pretty much the same
report.
Tell me that NBC starts with a missile
launch.
Tell me.
Yeah, I think they're given a sound effect.
Nat pops, baby.
Yeah, yeah, they had a good one.
Tonight, anxious hours after Ukraine fired American-made
long-range missiles called Atakoms at a nuclear
-armed Russia for the first time, according to
two U.S. officials.
It comes just days after the White House
approved their use outside Ukraine's borders.
Tonight, President Putin has lowered the bar for
Russia's use of nuclear weapons.
Under a new nuclear doctrine, Russia could deploy
its arsenal and be attacked by a non
-nuclear country allied with a nuclear state, a
message unmistakably directed at Ukraine and the U
.S. I'm Kelly O'Donnell in Rio de Janeiro
at the G20 Summit, where dozens of international
leaders have been gathered, including President Biden and
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who today called
the Ukrainian missile attack an escalation.
And he talked about Putin making changes to
how Russia could use its nuclear arsenal.
We are strongly in favor of doing everything
not to allow a nuclear war to happen.
As for the Atakoms, Ukraine says they will
help resist a Russian offensive supported by North
Korean troops just months before President-elect Trump
takes office and is expected to demand a
deal.
Ukraine today marking 1,000 days of war
with Russia, with talks on the horizon, but
no sign of compromise.
President Putin has made many unnerving nuclear threats.
Tonight, one European leader calling it rhetoric.
Rhetoric.
Oh, someone agrees.
Why do we have to have a British
guy?
Because this is an intelligence op.
My guys were British, too.
They're all British.
This thing is an op.
And it's been hard here, man.
It's been hard to calm people down because
they all think nuclear war is coming.
Where, you know, Lavrov said, He's sounding more
like Kissinger as he gets older.
He is, he is, he is.
This is posturing.
And, you know, so what?
So what's the big deal with North Korean
soldiers?
Who cares?
Do you know how many American soldiers were
in Ukraine?
Most of them are dead.
KIA, because I get the reports every single
day.
They all went over there and fighting for
freedom as mercenaries, of course.
There's all kinds of Americans, British, Dutch.
They're all over the place.
So what's the big deal?
So they got North Koreans.
Oh, 10,000.
Sure.
Yes, specifically.
The question you're asking is specifically what the
Russians have known to use.
Africans and mercenaries and all kinds.
So why now is North Koreans a big
deal when everything else seemed to be OK?
It's just a, it's a scare tactic.
It's an op of some sort.
Yeah, the same as this thing.
Just keep that noise in there all the
time.
The term that you see floating around is
they're trying to magaproof.
It's called magaproof.
Oh, yes.
Magaproof.
There you go.
Because when Trump gets in, he's going to
want to end this war.
But you want to magaproof it.
That means he won't be able to.
So they're trying to screw him over.
And the only way you can do that
is with an op.
But yeah.
Well, that brings us to Netanyahu.
Well, can I just stick with NATO for
one more second?
Oh, we're still there?
Yeah.
There's one more NATO thing I wanted to
get out of the way because this has
been bugging me for a couple of weeks.
So there's this.
Well, actually, Neil Oliver, who I like from
GB News in the UK, he summed it
up quite nicely.
This has been going around.
And I have some comments on this story.
Online publication Slay carried this headline recently from
the Dutch part of the lunatic asylum.
Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military
operation.
Ministry of Health obeys NATO.
A top Dutch government official that reads has
admitted that the COVID was a military operation
and revealed her nation was taking orders from
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Dutch health minister Fleur Agema has revealed that
the military operation was led by NATO and
the Netherlands National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism,
NCTV.
The NCTV is a Dutch government agency that
serves the country's national security.
During a speech in the Dutch parliament, Agema
acknowledged that the government responded to the pandemic
by complying with NATO obligations.
Now, luckily for no agenda nation, I am
fluent in Dutch.
Not just that I speak the language I
grew up with it.
I am completely bilingual.
And I watched this.
I watched the question and answer session, which
was about money, about money for a future
pandemic.
At no point did Dutch health minister Fleur
Agema say that COVID-19 and the Corona
period was a NATO operation.
She did not say that.
She's new.
This is the new parliament that has come
in.
And she said, coming in as a newbie,
I was surprised to hear, she actually says,
I was very surprised to hear that under
the new preparedness doctrine, which comes from, she
said, I think Brussels, that there are new
rules that they want to implement and what
needs to be done under pandemic preparedness in
the event it is a biological attack.
I'm paraphrasing.
But she did not say NATO was controlling
this whole thing.
She just didn't say it.
She did not say it.
And you can look at the subtitles as
long as you want.
But I hear what she's saying.
She said, you know, there's something up that
this and this is all the pandemic treaty
business.
That's what's going on.
And they want money to prepare for a
pandemic, for a possible war scenario.
But she did not say that COVID-19
and the Corona period was run by NATO
operatives and the anti-terrorism group.
It's just not true.
So stop.
When I heard that guy talking, I thought
the guy was full of crap just from
the sounds of it.
Well, but I didn't have to do the
translation.
But this has been going around.
But the yeah.
But the other thing I think that might
be true is the ex-CDC guy, that
weird bearded looking character that keeps cropping up,
who claims now in a tweet or in
a presentation that was retweeted that the that
COVID-19 was actually developed in North Carolina
and then moved to Wuhan.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's since you brought it up.
I'll play this other clip.
There's now.
Oh, no, no.
Canada is you're wrong.
You are wrong, my friend.
We're approaching five years since the first known
COVID-19 outbreak and scientists are still trying
to trace the origin of the pandemic.
Did it come from a lab or an
animal market?
Well, a Saskatoon virologist is part of a
team determined to find out.
CTV's Alison Bamford is on this story.
And Alison, what does new data suggest?
Sandy, these researchers say it's the most critical
question of the pandemic.
How did it start?
Their previous research pointed to a market in
Wuhan as the origin of the pandemic, where
the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans.
Now, an international team of scientists is strengthening
its case that COVID-19 wasn't leaked from
a lab.
So we have evidence that the infection spread
outward in the human population from the market.
Now we have information that proves that those
animals were at the market and we know
that at least some of them were susceptible.
The most common animal found at the market
was the raccoon dog, known to be susceptible
to the virus.
But researchers are now testing to see what
other animals could have been carriers.
As far as we know, the animals themselves
were never sampled.
We probably won't be able to locate the
exact infected animal.
Based on the evidence we have now, these
researchers say it's very difficult to explain any
other theory of origin.
That includes the theory that the virus was
leaked from the Wuhan lab.
This team of scientists says that hypothesis is
not probable.
Oh, man.
None of this is news.
This is just complete propaganda.
And we've learned nothing.
We've learned nothing.
But we've learned how full of crap these
people are.
Well, we have.
We have.
No agenda nation has.
But I'm just looking at my text messages
and like, nope, we've learned nothing.
Oh, no.
It's all scary.
It's all scary.
So I have a few clips about the
machine gun drones that I wanted to talk
about.
Okay.
Because this, again, brings up the inability of
the mainstream Gaza.
This is in Gaza.
Yeah.
The Gaza stuff.
Okay.
But first, I want to mention that this
morning, it turns out that the International Criminal
Court has indicted Netanyahu.
And just as an ask Adam.
Yes.
There's this morning on France 24.
They're going all over every detail of this
thing.
France is going to uphold it.
Right.
They said, oh, yes, we're all in.
Well, no, no, no.
They Macron says, maybe, maybe not.
But then the left wing of France says,
yes, yes, yes.
We're going to arrest them if we can.
But there's only one country.
Does they ask Adam only one country in
the EU that definitely will arrest him on
the spot if they see him has to
be the Netherlands, because the exactly the Hague,
of course.
Of course.
And they're bringing their bikes to surround him.
Yes, of course.
That's of course.
Yeah, that's what we do over there.
But meanwhile, this this strange war crime of
these machine gunned these.
Now, first of all, I want to ask
you a question.
When you when you say quadcopter specific, can
you describe one for me?
A quadcopter would be a drone that has
four engines with propeller blades, hence quad.
Exactly.
And it keeps it in perfect balance and
makes it very maneuverable.
So we have these these supposedly drones floating
around Gaza shooting people with a gun is
a machine gun attached to it.
OK, but but to begin these series of
clips, I have to play the Gaza drones
net pop.
This was the first time.
And I think we're going to start hearing
this.
You never heard this before.
NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who have seen
the destruction that these drones can cause.
And here's Kat Lonsdorf has been reporting from
Tel Aviv.
And she takes the story from here.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
They have a trigger warning for the sound
of gunfire.
Wow.
They should just be putting that on loudspeakers
throughout Chicago.
Believe warning.
This city has sounds of gunfire.
Oh, man.
OK, warning.
And this guy's the biggest guy that is
NPR.
Yeah, this is NPR.
Let's go with the drones.
Hold on.
Stop.
That's the one thing.
That's the one thing that every man, woman
and particularly child in the United States has
been exposed to since the womb.
There's gunfire on every television show, every movie,
every Democrat run city.
There's gunfire everywhere.
Since when has this become a trigger for
people?
I found it.
Well, not to bring it up.
Yes, I found it screwy.
Video games are filled with them.
No, it just makes it's somebody at NPR.
The great operation that it is, which I
have a final clip here will indicate they
can't even do simple work.
But yeah, somebody had to come.
Oh, you know, it's going to trigger somebody
who may have heard gunfire in real life
while playing a video game.
Oh, I'm triggered.
OK, clip two.
I don't have a number two.
Is that the Duke Robotics?
No, no, no.
Duke Robotics.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I see it.
Number two.
Yes, I do see it.
Thirty seven year old Fatima Adama is a
freelance journalist from Jabalia in northern Gaza.
It's an area that has been besieged by
Israeli forces since early October.
Adama sent NPR voice notes from her home
there on October 9th.
Hi, how are you?
She starts.
Israeli tanks are closing in, she says.
And the army is nearby.
Suddenly she's interrupted.
Ah, hear that, she says.
That's the quadcopter.
It's what many in Gaza call the small
hovering drone with a rifle mounted underneath.
So if I try to go closer to
the door to get better service, she says,
the quadcopter starts shooting and I have to
go back inside.
It's very dangerous.
The whole town is under siege by the
shooting quadcopter drones, she says.
No one can move.
For months, NPR has collected accounts from more
than a dozen people in Gaza who say
they have seen these sniper drones and that
they've seen them used to shoot and sometimes
kill civilians.
55-year-old Adib Shaqfa says he was
walking with his 32-year-old son on
May 31st in Rafa in southern Gaza.
Shaqfa says it was a quiet day and
there was no fighting nearby when suddenly a
drone appeared and shot his son who was
walking up ahead.
Wow.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, that's the eyewitness that you think that,
you know, captured one of these.
I didn't think that machine gun sounded very
hefty.
Well, it's good.
Have a recoil.
You can't have something that's too powerful.
I mean, give me something like...
Now add the quadcopter.
Now that's, that's a nat pop.
Yeah, well, that would be triggering if you
ask me.
That's how it should sound.
Okay, so let's go to clip three and
then we have their summary.
He says two men rushed in to help
his son and they were also shot.
Two older women nearby were also shot in
the head, he says.
Shaqfa says the women were killed, so was
his son.
The Israeli military told NPR it's unaware of
this incident and that any suggestion that it
intends to harm civilians is, quote, unfounded and
baseless.
NPR also asked the Israeli military repeatedly if
it was using the sniper drone technology in
Gaza.
It did not respond to the question.
Israel, frankly, like many militaries, is very cautious
about what kinds of information it provides about
its operations and tactics that it uses.
Seth Jones is president of the Defense and
Security Department at the Center for Strategic and
International Studies in Washington, D.C. But also
makes it more difficult for everyday Israelis or
journalists or other researchers to understand how these
things are being used.
Further complicating that understanding, until recently Israel had
a censorship law in place forbidding the media
from reporting on armed drone use by the
military.
And it's something most journalists can't witness with
their own eyes.
Israel has not allowed outside journalists independent access
to Gaza since the war began more than
a year ago.
But we do know that this sniper drone
technology exists and that the Israeli military has
it.
OK, so we know it exists and we
know they have they have it and we
know as far as they go with it.
So it takes like 10 minutes, 10 minutes.
It takes like two minutes for me to
find out the company making these things, Duke
Robotics.
And curiously, you might find a little bit
of information on their own website.
These things were and they're not quadcopters.
They have eight engines.
No, the octocopters, octocopters, octocopters.
And they have a machine gun mounted at
the bottom.
And they've been around since 2016.
And here's what their video has to say
about it.
What if we told you the future is
now?
Robots are replacing combat soldiers.
Unnecessary casualties are becoming part of the past.
Minimizing collateral damage and uninvolved casualties.
Duke Robotics presents TCAD, the future.
With TCAD, the future battlefield has arrived.
A fully robotic battalion capable of identification and
surgical neutralization of hostiles in the field can
now be deployed to places human soldiers can't
reach or simply shouldn't have to go.
TCAD is able to adjust to the right
place and time.
The TCAD robot is designed to identify, target,
and engage in real-life scenarios.
TCAD takes a full recoil of the weapon
discharged, compensates for its poor, and quickly readjusts
to stay on target and in the fight.
The Defense Department chose Duke as winner of
the 2016 Terror Combat Competition.
The company is in the process of implementing
orders from Israeli forces.
You're hired.
You're hired.
You're hired.
You're welcome to NPR's new staff.
Unbelievable.
It's right there.
And this was from 2016.
They've been selling these things.
And 2017, I guess, is when they started
selling them to Israel.
These guys can't cover this?
No.
No.
They could have shown pictures of this crazy
device.
The thing's actually got like a regular kind
of a machine gun that you could carry
in the field, you know, with a stock
and everything.
Really?
Hanging from it on a bunch of springs.
Nice.
And so when it fires and kind of
jerks the thing around a little bit, it's
hilarious to watch.
I think we should start all of our
podcasts with the following.
A warning.
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
I think our podcast should start with that
always so we don't trigger anybody.
Well, there's a couple of other things regarding
Israel.
Good work, John.
Your job is secure at NPR.
There was a vote over a resolution in
the United Nations.
Another school turned shelter in Gaza hit by
a deadly Israeli strike.
Residents in the enclave continue to pay a
heavy price as Israel presses ahead with its
military campaign against Hamas.
Meanwhile, attempts to halt the fighting are still
proving unsuccessful.
A ceasefire draft resolution at the U.N.
Security Council has been blocked after it was
vetoed by the U.S. Matthew Miller explained
the reasoning behind the move.
The resolution does call for the release of
hostages.
What it doesn't do is link the release
of hostages to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
Israel's U.N. ambassador criticized the text, describing
it as a resolution for appeasement of Hamas.
The resolution being considered by the Security Council
today is nothing short of a betrayal.
Betrayal.
It betrays the 101 innocent hostages.
Amongst the countries to voice their disappointment over
the U.S. veto was France, which stated
that the text very firmly insists on the
release of the hostages.
For the Palestinian envoy to the U.N.,
there is no excuse for failing to reach
an agreement.
There is no right to mass killing of
civilians.
There is no right to starve an entire
civilian population.
This is what Israel is doing in Gaza.
It marks the fourth time America has exercised
its veto power during the war in support
of its ally Israel.
So, no, and this is a new, this
is not the old, the female, the woman
ambassador.
There's some dude who's doing the veto.
Do they have a different ambassador all of
a sudden that I'm not aware of?
I don't keep up.
And and then the Pope, the Pope spoke
up about Israel.
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
study whether Israel's.
By the way, this is from Reuters, and
I have a couple of clips from Reuters
today.
I am pretty sure this is an AI
generated voice.
It's 14, it could be 14 seconds.
Have a listen.
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
study whether Israel's military campaign in Gaza constitutes
genocide.
It's some of the Pope's most explicit criticism
yet of Israel's conduct in its yearlong war
against Hamas.
I'm pretty sure that's AI.
Um, I don't know what, what is the
Pope doing?
What does he have to do with this?
I don't wanna get all my Catholic friends
irked.
No, well, I mean.
But he's the anti-Pope.
He's Satan.
Oh, John at Dvorak.org, which you can't
spell anyway.
So just send it to me.
I'll forward it.
Yes, send it to Adam McCurry, very easy
to spell.
A childhood school photo of you.
Have you ever seen this one?
I don't, probably not.
And you're wearing a Pabst Blue Ribbon shirt?
No, somebody doctored that.
And I said, why don't you send this
to John?
Why are you sending to me?
And he says, well, I couldn't remember how
to spell his name and his spam filter
would probably block it anyway.
So you're wasting my hard drive space with
this?
Really?
Send it to me.
I'll take a look at it.
Yeah, I have it.
I kept it.
I want people to know that we have
a lot of fun show bits coming up,
including some big tech, some big pharma news,
and trans Maoist news.
So you may not want to go away.
As I thank you, the man who put
two C's in Octocopter and say in the
morning to you, the man who put those
C's there, John C.
DeVore.
John, good morning to you, it's Adam Crane.
Good morning to our ships, Seaboots and the
Graffini.
Our subs in the water and all the
dames and knights out there.
Yeah, in the morning to the trolls in