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Who's Dynamite?
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's November 21st, 2024.
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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
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assassination episode 1714.
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This is no agenda.
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Available for AGBM.
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Broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas
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hill country here in FEMA region number six.
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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where we've got
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Netanyahu, ICBMs, Matt Gaetz.
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What's going on?
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
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I'm glad you asked breaking at this hour,
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John.
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Breaking at this hour.
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No agenda news can exclusively reveal that Matt
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Gaetz has withdrawn from the attorney general position.
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Yes, as expected.
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Yes.
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Gee, didn't we say that would happen?
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Well, here's the scenario the way I see
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it.
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Matt, they definitely wanted to get Rubio in.
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And they have to replace him with somebody.
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As a senator?
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As senators.
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So you replace him with Matt Gaetz.
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But Matt Gaetz says, hey, I got this
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investigation going on.
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It's going to be an embarrassment.
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You're not going to be able to put
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me into Rubio's spot.
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Because he wants Rubio.
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He wants Matt Gaetz in there to counter.
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And you're going to see this.
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I guarantee you're going to see them on
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the same committees.
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Matt Gaetz and the creep from California.
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The turtle head guy.
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Oh, who slept with the Chinese spy.
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No, no.
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That's a congressman.
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We're talking about senators.
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Our new senator.
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Schiff.
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Adam Schiff.
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Schiff.
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Okay.
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So they need a guy to argue with
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Adam Schiff.
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So they're going to want to put Gaetz
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in there.
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So now Gaetz can't get the job with
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this investigation going on.
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So here's the deal.
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And I think Trump, because of the four
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years he's been spending scheming, he can come
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up with these things faster than he used
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to.
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He goes, okay, we're going to pick you
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for attorney general.
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You can quit the house before they release
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the report.
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There'll be a big kerfuffle.
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And then all of a sudden, just before
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all shit hits the fan, you quit the
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denomination.
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Go back to Florida.
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You're not in the house anymore.
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And then you can be moved into Rubio's
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spot before anybody knows what the hell is
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going on.
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And you're going to be the next senator
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from Florida.
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I like the theory.
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I will add a little twist to that.
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Something that I thought would come up in
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the combo, but it didn't.
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Because I immediately tried to get a clip
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of Matt Gaetz resigning.
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Oh, I'm sure everyone's all over this.
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Breaking, breaking at this hour.
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And I couldn't get a clip.
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But I did get this.
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It's unclear what happens next, though, to your
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question of does it matter.
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Because Matt Gaetz, remember, was elected to serve
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in the 119th Congress.
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We are right now in the 118th Congress.
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The 119th Congress doesn't take power until January.
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And when Matt Gaetz resigned, he said that
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he does not intend to take his seat
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in the 119th Congress.
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But he didn't resign from that Congress because
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he can't.
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Because that Congress doesn't exist yet.
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So if Matt Gaetz wanted to come back
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to Congress and serve in his seat come
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January, in theory, he could try to do
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that.
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We do not know if he wants to.
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I'm checking in with sources close to Gaetz
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right now to figure out that exact question.
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What is next here for Matt Gaetz?
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But if he wanted to join Congress again
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come January, he technically could, Diane.
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Oh, technically, yeah, he technically could.
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So, well, you know what?
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You know what?
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It doesn't matter.
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It's fun.
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Everybody can run around with their hair on
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fire, you know, talking about it.
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And the culture war economy is, oh, boy,
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oh, this.
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The Trump.
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I have a supercut.
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I have a supercut of hair on fire.
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This week, Trump has been revealing his cabinet
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chock full of loyalists, sycophants and perennial bootlickers.
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Matt Gaetz is literally the worst pick in
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the world for attorney general.
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Significant concerns, horror even.
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Somebody said to me today, I can't think
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of any single individual who'd be more damaging
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to public health than RFK.
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He's not going to receive a very warm
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welcome from the career folks there.
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We've seen people today, our fellow reporters crying,
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hugging in the hallways.
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Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed secretary of defense, defends
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war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white
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nationalism and Christian nationalism.
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Are completely incompetent, who most American business owners
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wouldn't hire to run a taco stand.
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The former and future president is moving quickly
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to fill the clown car and round out
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his cabinet before he changes his mind and
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fires them all.
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If you've been accused of being weird and
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dangerous, it seems like Trump is doubling down
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on that.
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So television, I'll just call it what it
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is.
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Television has not taken a moment, not a
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beat, not just let's step back.
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Well, a couple happens.
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Let's just step back for a second and
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evaluate what has happened here.
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We failed in our mission to discredit Hitler,
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to prevent him from ascending his throne because
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he's literally a king now.
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And it doesn't matter.
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Let's just keep it going.
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And you know what?
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People are falling right in.
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Oh, it's great.
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Oh, we have more stuff to put on
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social media.
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Ah, it's groovy.
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So much that it's overflowing to new social
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media.
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Blue sky.
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Blue sky.
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I had a thing about blue sky.
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This was funny.
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Where was it?
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Here it is.
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Blue sky safety.
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They have a safety team over there, John.
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Just so you know, if you go to
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blue sky, if you leave the evil X
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and go to blue sky, they have a
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safety team.
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And they said in the past 24 hours,
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we've received more than 42,000 reports, an
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all time high for one day.
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We're receiving about 3,000 reports an hour.
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To put that into context, in all of
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2023.
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Oh, and then it cuts off for some
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reason.
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Why is this?
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So they didn't even receive that many reports
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in all of 2023.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's including child sexual abuse material.
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I bet there's all kinds of stuff.
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And because they have AI doing most of
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the work over there.
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So it's going to be a disaster.
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Now, the other thing is that I found
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interesting was somebody reposted it on Twitter.
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Of course, the thing about Twitter is that,
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you know, all these maniacs just grab stuff
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from every place else and post it on
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Twitter.
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You like TikTok?
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Yeah, we got it for you.
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You like blue sky?
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We got it.
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Here you go.
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Put it on Twitter.
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And so they put it on Twitter.
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It's like a big aggregator.
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Rob Reiner, you know, has always been threatening
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to quit Twitter.
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I think he still has an account there.
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But now he went blue sky, blue sky.
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So he goes to blue sky.
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So they find a tweet or tweet or
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whatever, a posting on blue sky from Rob
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Reiner, who's now complaining that the kind of
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creeps that are on Twitter are now over
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on blue sky giving him grief.
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Gee, surprise.
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The hate is so much.
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I can't stand it.
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Get off of all of that.
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None of it's good.
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These are digital towers of Babel filled with
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A.I. slop in their stairwells.
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It's all no good.
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But everybody, including my friends, all in.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, Megyn Kelly.
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Oh, transgender bathroom in the Capitol.
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It goes on and on and on.
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Transgender.
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Oh, I'll get to that.
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But.
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That's a classic.
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In a rare moment, Lulu over there at
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CNN, Lourdes, but everyone calls her Lulu.
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She had a rare moment.
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I don't think she realized Lulu.
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She's we talked about her.
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She's the possible spook.
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Lourdes.
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She's a possible spook is CNN.
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What am I saying?
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Let me write that down for an idea.
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Yeah, come on.
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We talked about her.
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Lulu.
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I don't know who it might have, but
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I'll get it for you.
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Garcia Navarro.
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Lulu Garcia Navarro, of course, also known as
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Lulu.
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Don't ring a bell.
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So Lulu.
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Well, they call her Lulu.
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Lulu's on the Burnett woman's show.
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Six million dollars a year.
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Yeah.
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Six million dollars a year, we're told.
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And she has a rare moment of perfectly,
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perfectly describing Trump's appointee strategy, which we deconstructed
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two shows ago, I think, of having a
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front person who makes all the noise, the
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lightning rod, and have someone in the background
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who does all the work.
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So perfect is the first buddy.
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Elon, also known as the modern day Edison
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and Vivek, Vivek, I should say Vivek.
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Vivek as in cake.
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Yeah, people keep saying, you guys, you're always
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so precise about pronunciation and words you shouldn't
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say, but it's Vivek, so you should say
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it right.
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Yes, this is right.
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You know, we've trained our producers to be
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the way we are, which is sticklers for
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this sort of thing.
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And so now they become sticklers and they
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give us grief.
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There you go.
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So listen to Lulu as she figures it
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out.
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I still don't think she realizes exactly what
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she's figured out.
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So look, take a step back.
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There's a lot of people who get put
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into these jobs who haven't overseen much, right?
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So I'm not going to say the fact
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that he hasn't overseen something that large is
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disqualifying in and of itself.
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But the history here is relevant.
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The history is relevant.
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When I was listening right now, I thought
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that what was going to be announced was
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Dr. Phil was going to be the surgeon
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general.
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So at least we're not there yet.
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Yet.
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But listen, what is happening here is this.
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We are now in Donald Trump's TV show.
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And this is the world we're living in
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now.
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He is casting the characters that he wants
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to play in his administration.
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And the point behind this is actually a
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serious one.
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They're not just good looking people.
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They're very effective communicators who actually are recognizable
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to the American public.
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If you think about why Donald Trump thinks
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he won this election, it's because he was
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able to have a consistent message.
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People listen to him.
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He is recognizable.
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And he was palling around with people like
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Elon Musk.
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He is putting people in these positions that
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people know and that can sell his policies.
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So whatever he does, there are going to
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be people who are able to go out
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into the manosphere, into podcasts, on cable news,
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and talk about it in a way that
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people will relate to.
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And I think that's what he's up to.
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So I like that she says Donald Trump
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thinks he won because of this strategy.
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I don't know why she thinks he won.
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But this is the strategy.
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Absolutely.
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Well, if she's a spook, he won because
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this whole thing was a scam.
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It was set up to win.
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It had nothing to do with whatever strategy.
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And she knew that.
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That's why she said that.
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By the way, are we in the manosphere?
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We're in the manosphere.
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We're in the manosphere.
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Welcome to the manosphere.
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The manosphere.
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I wrote that down as a show title.
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Manosphere.
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I think it might have been overused by
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now.
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I mean, yeah.
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Manosphere.
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Oh, I'll put it down as a possibility.
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Manosphere.
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So, yeah.
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Abby, your girl, Abby.
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Abby Phillip.
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You had clips of her on the last
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show.
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Abby Phillip from CNN.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The black newsreader.
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Yeah.
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So, she was at the Harvard School Institute
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of Politics on the panel.
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On the panel.
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And she's- Boy, you really got to
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be- I don't want to say you
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have to be hard up for attention.
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I've never been invited.
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If the Harvard Institute of Politics- You
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wouldn't go?
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Of course I would.
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Do I get a per diem?
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Do I get travel expenses?
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Then I'm not going.
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If you're not going to pay for my
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travel expenses and a per diem, I'm not
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going to go.
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You should get an honorarium at least, not
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a per diem.
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That would be good.
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So, she also comes very close to understanding
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what's going on.
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And on one hand, I'm delighted because I
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love seeing people waking up and, you know,
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kind of like Anna Kasparian and Jillian Michaels.
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I love seeing these people wake up.
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On the other hand, it'll ruin the show
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if they figure it out.
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I have observed- You know, I know
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exactly what you're thinking.
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And I agree with the basic thought, but
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the hordes of people that aren't going to
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figure it out are going to be the
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Rob Reiners and the rest of them.
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They're always going to be around to keep
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the show going.
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I have observed that elites increasingly talk only
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to each other and come to believe that
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because there is consensus among them, that that
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consensus is shared broadly.
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And there are not enough voices that are
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confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives.
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And we, as a society, need to find
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better ways to uplift divergent voices.
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Otherwise, we will be victims of groupthink.
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And there is an activist class- I
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think this is particularly acute in the Democratic
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Party right now.
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There is an activist class in the Democratic
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Party that is multiracial, multi-ethnic.
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It is diverse, but it's an activist class.
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And so because of that, they're not able
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to see outside of that.
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And Republicans had the same problem before Trump.
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The heritage foundations of the world, et cetera,
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right?
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They had the same issue, fundamental issue, but
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Trump kind of broke them out of it.
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The Democrats are in that place now where
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they have to break out of it.
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Yeah, they need someone to break them out
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of it.
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Not that they have one, but they need
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to be broken out of that elitist culture.
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I love the self-realization.
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I think it's healthy.
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It's good for them.
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Why do they need anyone to break them
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out of it?
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They were doing fine with it.
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They're still doing fine with it.
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You just want the show.
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They lost an elite.
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I mean, I'll take their side.
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Okay.
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They lost an election, barely.
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It could have gone either way, as everyone
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noticed.
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Yeah, they did win everything, but it's beside
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the point.
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They'll be corrected in the midterms, and the
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Democrats will be right back where they were,
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more or less.
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At least they'll have enough people in Congress
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in one house or the other to stop
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Trump, and then they can impeach him again,
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because it'd be good to be a third
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time would be good.
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And the elitist approach that they're using, which
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is the right approach, because they're elitists.
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If you're an elitist, it's not like you're
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going to change.
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Well, there's elitist Republicans.
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Yeah, there's tons of them.
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Yeah.
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So what are you saying?
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I don't think anything.
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I think the few people that are on
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the fringes that are, you know, that for
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some reason, like Julian Michaels is a good
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example, that just got fed up with one
16:13
thing or another, or Kasparian, who only got
16:15
fed up because she got condemned for being
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a racist when she wasn't.
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Yeah.
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If it wasn't for those little moments of
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mistakes made by the elitist, because they're idiots.
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They're not elitist at all, really.
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If you want elitist, you know, you got
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Jacob Rothschild.
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There's an elitist.
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Is he still alive?
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Didn't he just die?
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No, he died.
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He died, unfortunately.
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But the Rothschild family is, you know, that's
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real elitism.
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It's not, you know, and they're not, they
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don't act like this.
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These guys are phonies.
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They're just academic elitists and they're full of
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crap and they're not going to change.
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Why would they?
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What?
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No, no, you're right.
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I have a podcast clip.
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If you want to hear some dumb, I
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have a new category in my clip folder
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called Dumb Dems.
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Dumb Dems.
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Dumb Dems.
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These are Dumb Dems.
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And I'm not against the, I'm not against
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any anyone's political views per se, but these
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are Dumb Dems.
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And this is the Slate Political Gab Fest
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podcast.
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And so they're discussing...
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It's from Slate?
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Yes, from Slate.
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Washington Post.
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Yes.
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And so they're discussing this very issue.
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And it's incredible that the young woman who
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is going to explain what is going on,
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she has the most Dumb Dem vocal fry
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I've ever heard as she explains this.
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If you need to interrupt and stop it,
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let me know.
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Emily, last question on this topic.
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Do you think, as some have argued, I
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think Ezra Klein has argued this, that the
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Democrats are a party that roots out heretics
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and doesn't look for converts?
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Or is that actually true?
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Does the party need to have a kind
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of broad, encompassing, welcoming attitude that it doesn't
18:04
have?
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I think that right now the party is
18:07
associated with a lot of purity tests.
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Mike Peska of the podcast The Gist wrote
18:13
a piece in The Atlantic this week comparing
18:14
the Democratic Party to HR departments, talking about
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them as like being the sort of fussy
18:20
place of compliance and language policing and rules,
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none of which is a whole lot of
18:26
fun, even though it's sometimes necessary.
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And I thought that was a good metaphor
18:31
for capturing what doesn't feel broadly welcoming.
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I think to a lot of people as
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we're thinking about this today, and I was
18:38
writing, how do we describe deportation policies?
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And my natural instinct, maybe it's because I'm
18:43
badly trained on decades of false language, is
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to say illegal immigrants or even illegal aliens.
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And I'm like, oh, but am I allowed
18:51
to say that anymore?
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I better not say that.
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I should say undocumented.
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And am I supposed to say undocumented immigrants?
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Undocumented.
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Do you see the struggle?
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These people?
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Do you see the the torment?
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No.
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Torment.
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Great.
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The torment.
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People undocumented.
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They're tormented by their own set of procedure
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procedures.
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They have this rule based party.
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It's rule based.
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Rule based.
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And you've got this, this, you got to
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do this.
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You got to use pronouns.
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You got to do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You got to wear a badge that says
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I'm a him, her.
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You got to do that.
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It's all these rules.
19:23
And it's like this.
19:24
It's like the bureaucracy just boiled into like
19:26
a party.
19:28
People undocumented.
19:30
And I was like, I don't even know
19:31
what to do.
19:32
And I feel like there's a whole bunch
19:34
of GabFest listeners are going to judge me
19:36
based on whatever language I've used.
19:38
So it's obviously, that's a very extremely tiny
19:42
example.
19:43
But it did occur to me today.
19:45
It's not that tiny.
19:46
I mean, I think there is, to me,
19:48
something troubling about calling a person illegal.
19:51
Like they know if that bothers you.
19:53
Of course.
19:53
Of course.
19:55
But I do agree with you that deciding
19:57
that that means that you have to excommunicate
19:59
someone is a different step.
20:02
From hearing it and wondering whether that's really
20:05
a good idea or not.
20:08
I had to get the fry in there.
20:10
The fry.
20:11
The fry.
20:11
The fry.
20:12
So now that's all good and fine.
20:14
But if you are trying to break out
20:17
of the mold, and you may have the
20:20
other motives such as, oh my God, they're
20:24
going to sell our station.
20:25
And you're like.
20:27
I have a bunch of clips.
20:29
Yeah.
20:29
I know.
20:29
I know.
20:29
I'm leading you into it.
20:31
Thank you.
20:33
They're going to sell the station.
20:34
I have to before you go in this.
20:36
I had to turn on CNBC this morning.
20:39
I wanted to see what's going on anyway.
20:41
Yeah.
20:41
And so they're all freaked out about it
20:43
because I'll tell you this.
20:45
If you want to put a name on
20:46
the list of someone who's going to come
20:47
out of this just fine.
20:49
Is this Kelly Evans woman?
20:51
She's the one who's the most talented presenter
20:54
on CNBC.
20:56
Person of all very good.
20:58
Is she the blonde?
20:59
No, no, no.
21:00
She's a brunette.
21:01
She's black hair.
21:01
Right, right, right.
21:02
Yeah, she and she is just she never
21:06
flubs.
21:07
She's fast on her feet.
21:08
She knows what she's doing.
21:10
She is a she should be one of
21:12
the nightly news anchors.
21:15
She might be just a bit too young.
21:17
And they may have put a few years
21:18
on her by putting her in something else.
21:20
But she's the one who come out ahead
21:22
on this whole thing, even though you can
21:23
tell she's worried sick.
21:26
They're always at CNBC.
21:28
And I think CNBC got the short end
21:30
of this deal.
21:31
You're moving ahead.
21:32
You're moving ahead too fast.
21:33
OK, OK, go on.
21:35
You take it.
21:36
Stop me first.
21:38
First, we have to stick with MSNBC, the
21:40
weakest sister of the bunch.
21:42
And Joe and Mika went to see President
21:45
elect Trump and talk with them.
21:47
I actually have clips, but I don't think
21:49
I'll play those because they're just so annoying.
21:51
And they're like, oh, well, you know, we're
21:53
not doing this to kiss the ring.
21:55
Well, yeah, that's not what Rosie O'Donnell thought.
21:58
So Mika and Joe went down to Mar
22:00
-a-Lago to kiss the ring.
22:03
It's the last time I ever watched Morning
22:04
Joe.
22:05
Oh, no.
22:06
Period.
22:06
End of statement.
22:09
Unreal.
22:11
Unreal.
22:13
For months, you were telling us he's the
22:14
worst thing that could happen to this country
22:16
and democracy.
22:17
And then you go kiss his ring.
22:22
Despicable.
22:25
Despicable you.
22:26
Both of you.
22:27
Despicable you.
22:28
So what is she got a band in
22:30
the house there?
22:31
Where's that music coming from?
22:32
What is she?
22:32
She's doing a this is a tick tock
22:34
video and she's got an orchestra.
22:36
What is this music?
22:37
No, she's she's the kind of woman who
22:39
has that playing in her in her Manhattan
22:42
apartment.
22:43
You know, boy, man, from the because, you
22:45
know, I, I help, you know, she has
22:48
12 Emmys.
22:50
Do you know that I helped her get
22:51
her first job?
22:54
Pray tell that we're all now we're all
22:56
stopped to show us stop for a story.
23:01
Rosie O'Donnell was doing comedy stand up at
23:05
it was in West Orange made the name.
23:09
It's something like chuckles.
23:10
Obviously, I can't remember.
23:12
Yuck, yuck.
23:13
I can't remember what the name of it
23:15
was.
23:16
And Steve leads, who also lives in New
23:19
Jersey.
23:19
Steve is guy who hired me when I
23:21
was still in in Amsterdam.
23:23
Steve is still with us.
23:24
A good guy.
23:25
I talked to him maybe twice a year.
23:27
And so Steve had seen her.
23:29
He's like, she would be great for VH1
23:33
as a because, you know, MTV own VH1
23:36
as a VJ.
23:38
And so he brought her in and I
23:41
had to I think she the way it
23:45
was set up is she would have to
23:46
interview me and then do some segments and
23:50
which she did.
23:51
And, you know, she made fun of me
23:52
and it was kind of cute.
23:53
And she was back then.
23:55
Rosie O'Donnell had a pretty good stick.
23:57
It was pretty funny.
23:58
And she got hired for VH1 as a
24:00
VJ.
24:01
And that's how she started.
24:02
So I'll take some blame for it.
24:05
You should.
24:06
You should take all the blame.
24:08
So I'm going to lead you into your
24:10
into your clips.
24:13
First, with a with a little background.
24:17
So this is about the Comcast spin off.
24:22
And here's a I got this article from
24:25
where is this?
24:26
This is from CNBC itself.
24:28
There you go.
24:29
So just some data that's in here.
24:31
Cord cutting continues to impact the traditional TV
24:34
business.
24:35
Comcast lost three hundred and sixty five thousand
24:38
customers during the third quarter.
24:41
The industry overall lost roughly four million traditional
24:46
paying customers in the first six months of
24:48
the year.
24:49
Still traditional TV networks, TV networks remain cash
24:53
cows for media business.
24:54
Comcast reported in October that third quarter revenue
24:57
for its media segment, which is comprised of
25:00
the TV network, was nearly up 37 percent
25:02
to eight point two three billion, largely due
25:04
to the Olympics.
25:06
Without the summer games, revenue was up five
25:08
percent.
25:08
Disney executives recently said they do not plan
25:11
to separate their TV networks anytime soon, noting
25:14
the complexities of doing so, but they kind
25:16
of would like to do so.
25:18
So I got a clip from Bill O
25:22
'Reilly, who was still a blow hard.
25:25
I have that clip in my series.
25:27
Well, can I can I play it first?
25:29
The one with Cuomo?
25:30
Yeah.
25:31
You want me to play it now, just
25:32
since I have it racked up?
25:34
Or do you want to do your series?
25:37
You know, that's interesting.
25:39
Yes.
25:40
You have the whole thing.
25:42
Minute 40.
25:44
My O'Reilly clip is 248.
25:46
I play.
25:46
I have the whole thing.
25:47
OK, then why don't you go?
25:49
Which is interruptible.
25:50
You can interrupt.
25:50
Yeah.
25:50
Go into yours.
25:51
Do you want me to play that one
25:52
first?
25:53
Well, no, because I want to I have
25:55
the same clip, but I have the I
25:56
have a longer version, which may be more.
25:58
Yeah, but do this.
25:59
Do your series, whatever you want to do.
26:01
I'm glad you brought this up because I
26:03
didn't know if I should put the O
26:05
'Reilly thing at the beginning or I should
26:06
put it at the end of the series.
26:08
But since you brought it up, let's start
26:10
playing that clip that you talked about.
26:13
He's he's on Cuomo on news.
26:16
Cuomo, who is still a dope, by the
26:18
way, he's just a dope.
26:19
He doesn't know anything.
26:21
I think he even says, oh, I only
26:22
know what the news says.
26:23
OK, news boy.
26:26
Exactly.
26:26
I agree.
26:28
I agree with that.
26:28
Yes, he's kind of a he's just a
26:31
you know, he's a he's a percent.
26:33
He's a presentable male.
26:35
He's just dope.
26:36
Comcast said you two were going to have
26:38
to try to mend some cliche fences and
26:42
you two are going to go in there
26:43
and you're going to try.
26:44
He's talking about Joe and Mika here.
26:46
Yes, he's talking about Joe and Mika.
26:51
Going.
26:52
Yeah.
26:52
Yeah.
26:53
Yeah.
26:53
And if you if this clip is interrupted,
26:55
there's a spot where they talk about Sonny
26:57
Hoskins.
26:58
Yeah, that's important, too.
26:59
That's where you're going to stop.
27:00
I think you have.
27:01
Yeah, well, you're going to stop it.
27:03
OK, I to tamp it down because Comcast
27:07
knew the next day they were going to
27:09
announce that MSNBC is vapor.
27:13
That is a huge media story.
27:15
Why is it vapor?
27:16
Just because they're putting them in the spitting
27:19
off a bunch of spin off.
27:21
There is a spin off company.
27:22
There's no spin off that.
27:25
See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo.
27:27
Oh, OK.
27:27
See what I mean?
27:28
I'm just saying what's being reported.
27:29
By the way, I don't know what O
27:31
'Reilly is talking about here, but there is
27:34
a spin off and there are executives moving
27:36
over and it will be its own entity.
27:39
It is technically what's the name of it?
27:43
Spin Co.
27:46
No, really?
27:46
You believe that really is it called spin?
27:48
You're kidding me.
27:49
I'm not getting a spin.
27:51
Co.
27:51
That's like new Co.
27:53
I mean, you're dead.
27:54
So you're dead when you're spun off into
27:57
spin Co LLC.
27:58
All right.
27:59
But how do what do you know?
28:00
Yeah, I know.
28:01
But why would you believe what's being reported?
28:03
You want the real story?
28:04
Yes, please.
28:06
So they're uncoupling their word Comcast MSNBC from
28:11
NBC News.
28:12
That means MSNBC is no resources at all.
28:15
Not they're not going to be able to
28:16
pay these people millions of dollars, racial matter,
28:19
whatever she's making.
28:20
NBC News is saying we don't want you
28:23
around.
28:24
Why?
28:25
Because NBC News's numbers, Lester Holt and The
28:28
Today Show are catastrophe because half the country
28:32
equates NBC News with MSNBC and they won't
28:36
watch.
28:37
So NBC is desperately trying to save the
28:40
mothership of information and they have to throw
28:43
MSNBC overboard.
28:45
They're not putting anything into MSNBC.
28:48
They want to sell it.
28:50
So where's Georgie Soros now?
28:52
Georgie's buying radio stations.
28:54
You can get MSNBC for nothing.
28:57
OK, first of all, weak to say Georgie's
28:59
buying radio stations.
29:00
We know what's really going on there.
29:02
But the radio station is very different from
29:06
this MSNBC without the cable network.
29:08
So that's a little weak from O'Reilly.
29:13
Why, why, why?
29:15
I'm going to talk to you like this.
29:17
Let me tell you, the spinoff of the
29:18
cable companies are suffering dwindling.
29:20
Why?
29:20
Well, that's because that's a very annoying thing
29:23
he does.
29:24
This is you.
29:25
You had some comments about Cuomo.
29:26
I'll have a comment about O'Reilly.
29:28
I think he's a blowhard and a prick.
29:30
OK, they'll give it to you.
29:33
They don't want any more of this.
29:36
Why?
29:36
Because it's hateful.
29:38
Not because it's so far left.
29:40
The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left,
29:43
but it's hateful.
29:44
You see, I disagree with this, too.
29:47
I mean, not that they're hateful, but if
29:49
hateful works, which it did for a long
29:52
time, they wouldn't putting it and be putting
29:54
into spinco.
29:56
They'd be giving him medals.
29:57
But it's just not working anymore.
30:00
They were, you know, when this little history
30:03
lesson out there, you have to remember that
30:05
MSNBC, which I had worked for for a
30:08
while.
30:09
I was there.
30:10
I was there at the launch before they
30:13
had before they had.
30:19
Before Princess Diana died, that's when it changed.
30:22
It was it was kind of a normal.
30:24
It was Microsoft and MSNBC is supposed to
30:26
be a tech channel.
30:28
It was Microsoft.
30:29
Yeah.
30:29
Microsoft NBC.
30:31
Yes.
30:32
Yeah.
30:32
And then eventually NBC just bought Microsoft out,
30:35
but they kept the name.
30:36
And then it became a kind of a
30:38
gossipy channel because the princess died.
30:41
And then it still was languishing.
30:43
And so the guy who I have to
30:45
say he probably made it what it was
30:47
during the Bush administration was Keith Olbermann.
30:50
Yes.
30:51
Good point.
30:52
He came on with a hateful.
30:54
Yeah.
30:55
Show.
30:57
And he and he's a hateful guy, very
30:59
hateful, and he he's the one who trained
31:02
Rachel Maddow.
31:04
And he mentored her to be the jerk
31:08
that she is, and she's the one who
31:09
trained the other guy, the the the guy
31:13
with the glasses.
31:14
Yeah, yeah.
31:14
Chris Hayes.
31:15
Chris Hayes.
31:17
She trained him.
31:18
So he's the third generation of hater.
31:20
Chris the queen.
31:23
And so so so it has a checkered
31:26
past, but it really, really got its start
31:28
during the hateful era of Olbermann.
31:32
And and I'd just like to say to
31:33
trolls and I've seen this floating around and
31:36
also good friends of mine text me this.
31:38
Hey, Elon might buy MSNBC and then make
31:42
sure to do a good channel.
31:43
MSNBC by itself is not worth anything without
31:46
the distribution.
31:47
The problem is the cord cutting.
31:49
That is the problem.
31:51
You know, what people watch these channels the
31:52
most right now is on YouTube TV.
31:55
YouTube TV is the biggest distributor of what
31:57
used to be cable programming by far.
32:00
For good reason.
32:01
Yeah, you get unlimited DVRs.
32:04
It's cheaper.
32:05
Tons of reasons for it.
32:08
I don't even know if they're making money
32:10
on it.
32:11
I don't think I can't believe that they
32:12
are.
32:13
I don't think they don't care that DVR
32:15
thing.
32:15
You could break them.
32:16
Yeah, here we go.
32:17
But it's hateful.
32:19
They hate Trump.
32:20
They hate people who vote for Trump.
32:23
Everybody knows that.
32:25
And you know what's next?
32:26
The view.
32:27
All right.
32:28
I'll stop it right there.
32:32
And this is why I kept this clip.
32:34
I didn't even know you had it.
32:35
I missed it in your lineup.
32:37
But I did see you had the Sonny
32:39
Hoskins reading.
32:42
So I'll let him intro what you had
32:44
to do.
32:45
Well, let him finish his thought because he
32:47
mentions this and then we'll cut to the
32:48
Sonny Hoskins.
32:49
I want to thank one of our producers
32:50
for sending me.
32:51
I've seen these Hoskins things a couple of
32:54
times.
32:54
I never recorded him.
32:56
Somebody sent him to me.
32:56
I said, oh, I should have recorded him.
32:58
I can tell because they're a little below
33:00
your level.
33:01
They won't be the same.
33:04
I noticed right away.
33:05
Oh, you didn't make that clip.
33:06
Someone else did.
33:07
All right, here we go.
33:08
Yeah, you can tell from the waveform.
33:10
Sure.
33:10
Yeah.
33:12
ABC News is going to have to cut
33:13
ties with the view.
33:16
And you saw that today or yesterday when
33:19
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
33:23
in the middle of a segment.
33:26
The lawyers got in or get whoopie Goldberg's
33:30
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
33:32
on a teleprompter.
33:34
She reads it.
33:35
All right.
33:36
She reads.
33:37
So now this is actually quite funny because
33:40
Hoskins is off the deep end anyway.
33:43
Yeah.
33:43
Yeah.
33:44
And so she is.
33:47
She she goes off and she basically slanders
33:50
on the on the air gates.
33:54
Is this the first clip?
33:56
The view.
33:57
Yeah, clip one.
33:58
OK.
33:59
And within the Department of Justice, you have
34:02
the sex crimes unit, which is what I
34:04
was a part of child sex crimes and
34:06
child trafficking.
34:07
How could you nominate someone with allegations of
34:11
child trafficking across or trafficking across state lines
34:15
and having sex with a 17 year old?
34:18
My understanding further on in the interview, they
34:20
discussed the fact that once he finds out
34:22
that she's 17, he stops having sex with
34:25
her.
34:25
Well, statutory sex doesn't require you to know
34:28
what age the person is.
34:30
It only requires the age.
34:32
Oh, man, she's just basing this on hearsay,
34:36
no?
34:37
Yeah.
34:37
Hearsay.
34:38
And the other thing is, you first of
34:40
all, you have to kind of visualize what
34:42
what is he having sex in a in
34:44
a room full of people?
34:45
I don't know.
34:46
Hey, she's always she's only 17, Matt.
34:49
You better get off her.
34:51
Oh, OK.
34:52
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
34:55
But so within five minutes.
34:58
Oh, this is the same show.
35:01
Yeah, this is within five minutes, five minutes
35:02
after she said this.
35:04
Wow.
35:05
Somebody who obviously put a bug in Rosie's
35:08
ear and they put it on the property.
35:09
Not Rosie, whoopee, whoopee, not Rosie, whoopee.
35:13
Oh, that's funny.
35:14
I said Rosie.
35:14
Yeah.
35:15
Whoopee whoopee hears that.
35:16
Oh, you better take care of this.
35:19
And so Sonny Hoskins reads from a prompter.
35:23
What's the next clip?
35:24
She reads.
35:25
But it's the look on her face.
35:27
She is so steamed up that she has
35:30
to do this because it's humiliating.
35:32
It's it's basically humiliation that she's doing this.
35:36
But here she goes.
35:37
Sonny, you have a legal.
35:39
I do have a legal.
35:40
No, thank you, whoopee.
35:43
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations calling
35:46
the claims, quote, invented.
35:49
And saying in a statement to ABC News
35:51
that this false smear following a three year
35:53
criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism
35:57
that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges
36:01
being brought.
36:02
We'll be right back.
36:04
Now, do you think that Gaetz can still
36:06
go after her because of the of the
36:08
read?
36:09
Like your read was not serious.
36:11
You still slandered me.
36:12
I mean, would that be possible?
36:14
I think it's possible.
36:15
I don't think it's going to happen, but
36:16
it's possible because then more than one or
36:18
two commentators have said this.
36:21
Oh, really?
36:22
You just said you're number three saying that,
36:25
hey, this is not a sincere apology by
36:27
any means, because she was just her jaw
36:31
clenched as she read this.
36:32
And she was not a happy camper.
36:34
Do you want to go back to O
36:35
'Reilly or are we good?
36:36
Do we need to go back to O
36:37
'Reilly?
36:39
No.
36:39
Yeah.
36:40
Go back to O'Reilly because it does
36:41
get pretty good.
36:42
But it's hateful.
36:43
Oh, hold on.
36:44
They hate Trump.
36:45
And you saw that today or yesterday when
36:49
Sonny Hassan had to read a legal statement
36:53
in the middle of a segment.
36:56
The lawyers got in her get whoopie Goldberg's
36:59
ear and said, we're bringing a statement in
37:02
on a teleprompter.
37:04
She reads it.
37:05
So it is over for these far left
37:10
networks.
37:11
Done.
37:12
Never coming back.
37:13
Dracula's stake in the heart.
37:15
Who benefits?
37:16
News Nation may.
37:18
But CNN, which is on the ropes, too,
37:22
will probably get some MSNBC viewers.
37:28
There you go.
37:29
What do you think of that?
37:31
Well, I'm certainly not going to accuse him
37:33
of not making sense.
37:35
You know, I disagree.
37:36
It's the problem is the cord cutting and
37:39
the expenses.
37:40
Is that so?
37:40
No, I'm I.
37:41
Yes.
37:42
In fact, when you listen to.
37:44
Well, here's this one more clip in the
37:45
series.
37:46
This is NBC spinoffs is an NPR version
37:49
of the event.
37:51
Yeah, got it.
37:52
Well, company Comcast says it will spin off
37:54
many of its networks that were once at
37:56
the center of the entertainment giants offerings comes
37:59
as people are increasingly trading their cable TV
38:01
subscriptions for streaming services like Netflix and Hulu.
38:05
Comcast will spin off USA, Oxygen, E, sci
38:07
fi and golf channels, as well as CNBC
38:09
and MSNBC.
38:12
Yeah, the CNBC thing is rough for them.
38:15
I like CNBC.
38:17
That's kind of rough.
38:19
They're getting a CNBC.
38:21
Well, it's very expensive.
38:22
They're going to take this very expensive.
38:23
And why do they keep Bravo and not
38:24
CNBC?
38:25
Because Bravo is a cable channel.
38:26
It's not over.
38:27
The Bravo is a super moneymaker.
38:30
I guess so.
38:31
Oh, yeah.
38:32
The franchise that they have with Real Housewives
38:35
and all that stuff, it's it's massive.
38:39
Now, that's really real.
38:41
That's that's just huge.
38:43
But the logic, I'm just saying the logic
38:46
is not a cord cutting.
38:48
I mean, Bravo does rely on cable.
38:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:52
But but they got to keep something.
38:55
And CNBC, that's got to be so expensive.
38:58
That's, you know, whenever you're doing live stuff,
39:00
that's expensive right there.
39:02
It's just expensive.
39:03
So the salaries need to come down.
39:06
We need new talent.
39:08
If you and I were doing it, you
39:09
know, and I think that one of the
39:12
top bosses of NBC is going to run
39:16
the spin spin co.
39:18
Or maybe yes, the guy who actually had
39:21
the he had MSNBC under his wing already.
39:26
OK, and they just get them moving him
39:28
out with the with the rest of it
39:30
now.
39:31
But this problem is not just television, the
39:34
Washington Post.
39:36
And this was was this actually an article
39:39
in The Post?
39:40
This was an article.
39:42
No, New York, New York, The New York
39:45
Magazine.
39:48
So there was a meeting.
39:49
There was a meeting at The Washington Post.
39:52
Even before 250,000 digital readers unsubscribed, I'm
39:57
unsubscribing Bezos from The Washington Post in protest
40:01
in protest.
40:01
The paper was on track to lose as
40:04
at least as much money as it lost
40:07
last year.
40:08
Seventy seven million.
40:11
A deputy manager editor shared the figure in
40:13
a recent meeting with reporters and editors per
40:16
multiple sources.
40:17
The editor did not say what the added
40:19
impact of the non endorsement exodus would be.
40:21
So it's going to be even more mind
40:24
blowing.
40:24
One staffer put it.
40:26
The level of anger is through the roof
40:27
and fear is also through the roof.
40:29
There's huge concern that Bezos is going to
40:32
pull the plug.
40:33
Yeah, well, he's not going to pull the
40:36
plug on the on the national newspaper.
40:38
Elon, you should buy Washington Post.
40:41
Elon, buy buy MSNBC and The Washington Post.
40:45
Elon, go ahead, Elon.
40:47
Please.
40:49
MSNBC staffers in a panic, in a panic.
40:55
So it's the changing landscape.
40:57
We knew the Internet would do this eventually.
40:59
We just had to wait a quarter of
41:01
a century.
41:02
But here it is.
41:04
Here it is.
41:05
It did take longer than you think.
41:06
Oh, goodness.
41:07
We were we were popping the champagne corks
41:10
in ninety nine like, oh, it's going to
41:12
be the end of it.
41:13
Well, it'll be over.
41:16
What were we thinking?
41:18
What were we thinking?
41:20
All right.
41:20
So I think we're done with with with
41:23
the M5M.
41:25
The next thing that we need to move
41:27
on to, because there's just such fear and
41:31
uncertainty and oh, yes, doubt that has crept
41:34
in.
41:34
And are we in World War three?
41:36
And what are we doing?
41:37
And Biden's going out with a bang.
41:40
And here is a short introductory clip.
41:43
In a big reversal, President Biden will now
41:46
let Ukraine use long range missiles supplied by
41:49
the U.S. to hit inside Russia.
41:51
Until now, the president had resisted this position,
41:54
concerned it could escalate Russia's war in Ukraine
41:56
into something even larger.
41:57
Kelly O'Donnell is traveling with the president in
41:59
Brazil.
42:00
And Kelly, this move coming as President Biden
42:02
only has a couple of months left in
42:04
office seems meant to send a message.
42:06
Exactly right, Hallie.
42:07
Good evening.
42:07
This is a notable shift in policy.
42:10
Two U.S. officials tell NBC News the
42:12
Biden administration is giving Ukraine the green light
42:15
to use American made long range weapons for
42:17
limited strikes inside Russia.
42:19
Until now, President Biden had restricted the use
42:22
of American made weapons to the Ukrainian battlefield
42:25
to prevent a wider war.
42:27
But the president is also alarmed by North
42:29
Korea sending thousands of its own soldiers to
42:32
help Russia.
42:33
And given the sensitivity of this change and
42:35
military operations, the White House and the Pentagon
42:38
are not commenting publicly on this.
42:40
So there's a couple of things that bothered
42:42
me right away.
42:43
First of all, Biden's roaming around there in
42:47
South America.
42:47
And by the way, it's not Biden.
42:50
It's daddy long legs.
42:51
He's jumping around.
42:53
He's got the aviators on.
42:54
Won't talk to the press.
42:55
Won't won't say anything.
42:57
There's why I liked it when he walked
42:58
into the jungle.
43:04
Did you hear the news?
43:07
The media was so desperate to get a
43:10
quote.
43:10
They're yelling at him.
43:11
Yeah.
43:11
Here, listen to this.
43:27
Yeah, you know, it just doesn't come through.
43:31
I had that clip and it was just
43:32
I said it's not you can't hear it.
43:34
I'm sure the audience.
43:35
Well, I did it.
43:36
I did it.
43:37
It is funny because she's screaming her head
43:40
off and he won't even acknowledge her existence.
43:43
He's just because you're right.
43:44
It's daddy long legs.
43:45
Is that other guy?
43:47
So there's a number of issues.
43:49
One, the story is based as far as
43:52
I can tell on reporting from Associated Press.
43:56
And so I was able to trace it
43:58
back to that.
44:00
And here's what they report.
44:02
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use
44:05
U.S. supplied missiles to strike deeper inside
44:07
Russia.
44:08
They're not saying attack comes here.
44:10
Easing limitations on the longer range weapons as
44:13
Russia deploys thousands of North Korean troops to
44:16
reinforce its war, according to a U.S.
44:19
official and three other people familiar with the
44:22
matter.
44:22
So there is zero publication of what's going
44:27
on here.
44:28
You know, there's nothing in the register.
44:31
There's nothing on WhiteHouse.gov. We're just accepting
44:34
that the media has told us this is
44:36
taking place.
44:37
And we have zero evidence of we got
44:40
all kinds of videos of of shooting, shooting
44:43
cannons and tanks.
44:46
And but we have no North Korea, the
44:48
North Korean dudes running around 10,000 of
44:50
them, apparently 10,000 of them.
44:53
I don't see that.
44:55
There's some good, funny reports about the North
44:57
Koreans shooting at the Russians, though.
44:59
It's very humorous.
45:00
Well, and then there's confusion because Ukraine has
45:05
other long range missiles which aren't from the
45:08
U.S. Tonight, a new escalation video circulating
45:15
online appears to show massive explosions rocking Russia's
45:18
Kursk region.
45:20
The Wall Street Journal reporting Ukraine launching at
45:23
least 10 British made storm shadow cruise missiles.
45:26
Ukraine not commenting.
45:29
Ukraine fighting to hold on to a small
45:31
patch of Russian territory it holds in Kursk
45:33
to use as leverage.
45:34
But Russian forces, assisted by thousands of North
45:37
Korean soldiers, are slowly pushing them back.
45:40
The U.S. in another policy reversal now
45:42
allowing Ukraine to use anti-personnel landmines to
45:45
try to slow the Russians down.
45:48
And amid growing fears about Russian retaliation, the
45:52
U.S. embassy in Kyiv closing down for
45:54
much of the day.
45:55
We were given exclusive access to the secret
45:57
command center of the elite Ukrainian heartier brigade
46:01
in Kharkiv.
46:02
Here, drone operators launch attacks on Russian troops.
46:05
For Ukrainians, we do not have a choice.
46:08
We have to fight because we are fighting
46:09
for our land and for our way of
46:11
life, for our freedom.
46:13
But this morning, the U.S. embassy in
46:14
Kyiv shutting down warning of a potential significant
46:17
air attack by Russia.
46:19
Staff being told to shelter in place and
46:21
other embassies also closing as these tensions rise
46:24
between the U.S. and Ukraine and Russia.
46:26
So as you dig into this U.K.
46:29
missiles, again, it's the media saying this.
46:33
Neither the U.K. nor the Ukrainian government
46:35
have confirmed it, but British media say they
46:38
have numerous sources.
46:39
And also Russian military bloggers are saying that
46:42
it was storm shadow missiles that were used.
46:45
It's on a town called Maryino in Kursk
46:48
region in Russia, only about 40 kilometers, actually,
46:51
from the Ukrainian border.
46:53
There's one video doing the rounds on social
46:55
media made by somebody in that town.
46:58
You can't see the missiles, but you hear
46:59
them flying in and you hear him becoming
47:02
increasingly agitated as one after another.
47:04
No video.
47:19
Yeah.
47:21
And then Moscow says, oh, no, we shot
47:23
down five of the six.
47:25
I won't play the clip because it gets
47:26
a little tedious.
47:27
So, oh, these are the great attack.
47:29
They shot down five of the six.
47:30
Luckily, on the soon to be spun off
47:34
spinco CNBC, there was a rare moment of
47:38
spin down and information that was actually useful
47:42
from a guy from the Brookings Institute.
47:45
For more insights on this move, we want
47:47
to bring in Michael O'Hanlon.
47:48
He's senior fellow and director of research for
47:50
foreign policy at the Brookings Institution.
47:53
And Mike, you were the first person I
47:54
thought of when I heard this report.
47:56
What does this mean?
47:57
It sounds like Biden is trying to help
48:01
Zelensky maybe get the best possible positioning he
48:05
can before the Trump administration comes in and
48:08
potentially forces a deal with Russia.
48:10
Hi, Becky.
48:11
Well, that's part of it.
48:12
But I also think it's just sort of
48:14
the most natural, relatively small, somewhat symbolic gesture
48:18
that can be made in response to the
48:20
North Korean involvement.
48:22
Because, as you know, the permission to use
48:24
these weapons is limited to that very small
48:27
part of Russia, where the North Koreans are
48:30
now fighting to try to drive the Ukrainians
48:32
out.
48:33
And moreover, we've known this kind of a
48:36
decision might be coming for a long time.
48:38
President Biden's made decisions like this before.
48:41
So I doubt very much that Russia and
48:44
North Korea allow themselves to have big troop
48:47
concentrations or vulnerable headquarters within range of these
48:50
missiles.
48:51
And moreover, it seems like we've told the
48:53
world about the decision before we gave the
48:56
Ukrainians permission.
48:57
So any element of surprise has probably been
48:59
lost.
49:00
So I think it has to be seen
49:03
more in the context of the diplomacy of
49:06
the war and trying to make sure the
49:08
North Koreans don't come in in larger numbers
49:11
rather than any effort to make a decisive
49:14
military difference on the battlefield.
49:17
Exactly.
49:18
It's not that big a deal.
49:20
Everybody's got their hair on fire.
49:22
Oh, Putin said, oh, I'm going to escalate
49:25
my rules.
49:26
Well, yeah, of course he's going to say
49:28
that.
49:28
It's tit for tat.
49:29
This is typical, typical war gaming.
49:33
And yes, everybody knew that the attack was
49:36
coming.
49:36
I read from the Supplemental Appropriations Act 2024,
49:41
Section 505, while you're picking up the phone.
49:44
Transfer of long-range attack is required as
49:47
soon as practicable after the date of enactment
49:51
of this act.
49:51
The president shall transfer long-range army tactical
49:54
missile systems, ATACMS, to the government of Ukraine
49:57
to assist the government of Ukraine in defending
49:59
itself and achieving victory against the Russian Federation.
50:03
If the president determines that executing the transfer
50:06
of long-range army tactical missile systems to
50:08
the government of Ukraine pursuant to Subsection A
50:10
would be detrimental to the national security interests
50:13
of the United States, the president may withhold
50:15
such transfer, which he, of course, has done
50:17
so far.
50:18
And then he has to issue a report
50:20
to the Committees on Appropriations and Foreign Relations
50:23
of the Senate and of the House.
50:25
So none of that happened.
50:27
What did happen, what did happen is there
50:32
was a memorandum on the 15th, memorandum on
50:37
the delegation of authorities under Section 507D and
50:41
508A.
50:42
Because I went looking, hey, wait a minute.
50:44
Don't tell me he let Anthony Blinken take
50:47
care of these ATACMS. No.
50:50
D, so 507D is cancellation of indebtedness.
50:55
Yes, this is exactly right.
50:58
This was the cover-up for what you're
51:00
just about to read, which I think is
51:01
just abhorrent.
51:03
So the president can, may not before November
51:07
15th, 2024, so this came out on the
51:10
15th, take any action related to the indebtedness
51:13
of the government of Ukraine that cancels any
51:16
indebtedness incurred by Ukraine pursuant to this section.
51:20
So that has been transferred to the Secretary
51:23
of State.
51:24
And so now Blinken can, if he hasn't
51:27
already, cancel Ukraine's debt to us.
51:30
Thanks a lot.
51:31
According to this morning's report, $4.7 billion
51:35
of loan forgiveness was released.
51:39
Right off the top.
51:41
I have no idea what the total is
51:43
going to be, but already the so-called
51:45
loan is bullcrap.
51:47
I mean, we have been taken for a
51:49
ride.
51:50
Not only is it a cover-up for
51:52
this, but it's also a cover-up for
51:55
that.
51:56
For the seventh consecutive time, the Department of
51:58
Defense could not fully account for how it
52:01
spends taxpayer dollars.
52:03
In the latest audit, the Pentagon could not
52:05
track billions of dollars.
52:07
The Defense Department's budget.
52:09
Over $800 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
52:11
For the 2024 fiscal year is $842 billion,
52:16
just over 12% of the total federal
52:18
budget.
52:19
Comptroller Mike McCord stating in a release that
52:22
despite the audit revealing areas for improvement, the
52:26
department has, quote, turned a corner and, quote,
52:29
momentum is on our side.
52:31
Now, I got this clip because, and this
52:34
was from News Nation, they did some very
52:37
interesting inserts here, which we'll discuss after the
52:41
clip plays out.
52:42
The Pentagon's reliance on private contractors, which account
52:45
for more than $400 billion annually, over half
52:48
the defense budget, according to USAspending.gov. From
52:52
jet fighters to missile systems, companies like Lockheed
52:56
Martin, Boeing and Raytheon secure multi-billion dollar
52:59
contracts each year.
53:00
These contracts have drawn scrutiny for cost overruns,
53:04
delays and insufficient oversight.
53:06
We're not going to be cutting ribbons, we're
53:07
going to be cutting costs.
53:08
President-elect Donald Trump vowing to reduce wasteful
53:12
federal spending with the newly created Department of
53:14
Government Efficiency, or DOGE, tapping billionaires Vivek Ramaswamy
53:19
and Elon Musk to lead the charge.
53:22
Our defense budget is pretty gigantic, it's a
53:24
trillion dollars, but the interest that we owe
53:28
on the debt is now higher than the
53:30
defense budget, over a trillion dollars and growing.
53:33
The failed audit revealing the Department of Defense
53:35
continues to face difficulties in tracking and reporting
53:38
property, equipment and inventory, preventing an accurate report
53:43
of a clear money trail.
53:45
This is about restoring self-governance and accountability
53:48
in America.
53:49
Most of the people making these decisions, from
53:52
healthcare to the Department of Defense, are failing
53:54
on effectiveness because they have no accountability.
53:57
Though DOGE is not an official agency and
53:59
Congress controls budget for federal agencies, the hope
54:03
of the president-elect is that the initiative,
54:05
which ends in 2026, can help the Pentagon
54:08
pass its first audit by 2028.
54:11
So I'm pretty sure all this noise was
54:14
definitely partially used or intended to cover up
54:18
this failed audit seventh time in a row.
54:20
And I love that News Nation, you know,
54:22
chopped in the DOGE boys saying, billionaire Vivek
54:26
Ramaswamy, I didn't know he was a billionaire,
54:28
but the DOGE boys, how much you want
54:30
to bet that they're not going to start
54:32
with the Department of Defense?
54:33
I have a very hard time seeing Elon
54:36
Musk saying, yeah, no, there's wasteful spending on
54:39
those rockets and that stuff.
54:40
You can't have that.
54:42
No, we'll see if they go after the
54:44
Department of Defense.
54:45
But these types of distractions for massive audit
54:50
failures within the Department of Defense go back
54:52
to 2001.
54:55
Yeah, that would have been perfect.
54:57
We are, as they say, tangled in our
55:00
anchor chain.
55:02
Our financial systems are decades old.
55:05
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2
55:07
.3 trillion in transactions.
55:11
We cannot share information from floor to floor
55:14
in this building because it's stored on dozens
55:17
of different technological systems that are inaccessible or
55:20
incompatible.
55:22
We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base
55:24
infrastructure than we need to support our forces
55:28
and an annual waste to taxpayers of some
55:31
$3 to $4 billion.
55:33
That was Donald Rumsfeld on September 10th, 2001.
55:38
You know, we didn't talk about defense issues
55:40
for a long time after that.
55:42
In addition, this is NATO freaking out about
55:46
Trump, freaking out about they.
55:48
They are freaked out.
55:50
We need to have more noise going on
55:52
in Russia with Russia and Ukraine, more stuff
55:55
to talk about.
55:56
We need to get as much money out
55:57
as we can.
55:58
And you know what?
56:00
Why don't we do an exercise while we're
56:01
at it?
56:02
This forest in Lapland is within Russian missile
56:05
range.
56:08
It's the first NATO military exercise since the
56:11
re-election of Donald Trump.
56:16
And as French artillery fires alongside U.S.
56:20
Army rocket launchers, the threat of American disengagement
56:25
is on everyone's minds.
56:27
This French colonel who is in charge here
56:29
doesn't want to consider this scenario.
56:32
NATO is important and so is France's role
56:35
in this military power.
56:37
NATO is vital for us and our partners.
56:41
Vital, especially as Russian President Vladimir Putin once
56:44
again raises the threat of a nuclear attack.
56:47
And for his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, a
56:50
U.S. withdrawal would mean a defeat for
56:52
Ukraine.
56:53
I can't predict the future.
56:55
I'll say the U.S. has been a
56:56
founding member of NATO for 75 years.
57:00
And I only see that continuing.
57:02
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022,
57:05
the United States have deployed in Europe some
57:08
90,000 soldiers from their naval and air
57:10
forces.
57:11
And as NATO allies await Donald Trump's first
57:14
decisions, war simulations remain on the agenda.
57:18
This whole report was set up to say
57:20
we need NATO.
57:21
NATO is important.
57:22
Finland, brand new NATO member.
57:24
They're in Finland doing these exercises within range
57:29
of these weapons, within Russian range of these
57:32
weapons.
57:33
The people speaking, they've got the good looking
57:35
uniforms on.
57:36
You know, yeah, it's camo, but it's freshly
57:38
pressed.
57:39
And they're not running through some mud doing
57:42
exercises.
57:43
They're due to do PR, promotion.
57:45
Oh, and while we're out at Finland, oh,
57:47
you should be very worried.
57:49
You really need NATO too.
57:50
This morning, questions about potential sabotage.
57:53
After two underwater Internet cables connecting parts of
57:56
Europe to the NATO countries of Finland and
57:58
Sweden were severed under the Baltic Sea, a
58:01
cargo ship in the area owned by a
58:03
Chinese company has raised suspicion.
58:05
Local authorities now tracking the ship that said
58:07
sail from Russia.
58:09
Unconfirmed reports claim the captain is Russian.
58:12
European officials not directly blaming Russia for the
58:14
disconnected cables, but Germany and Finland saying our
58:17
European security is not only under threat from
58:20
Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, but also
58:22
from hybrid warfare by malicious actors.
58:25
Hybrid warfare is a term that could include
58:27
unconventional tactics like cyber attacks.
58:30
Speaking generally, we are incredibly concerned about hybrid
58:34
warfare conducted by Russia, both in Europe and
58:37
around the world.
58:38
And it's something that we have been in
58:39
close coordination with our European allies.
58:43
It comes as Ukraine launches British made cruise
58:45
missiles into Russia for the first time.
58:47
After President Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American
58:51
long range missiles into Russian territory.
58:53
So we don't even know if attackers were
58:55
fired.
58:56
It's still these British shadow missiles.
58:58
And we're freaking out the new NATO members.
59:00
Oh, oh, the captain was Russian.
59:03
Hey, probably.
59:04
And I talked to Sir von der Helm.
59:06
I said, how's your Internet?
59:08
No problem with the Internet.
59:09
These were Internet cables.
59:11
There's no issue.
59:12
So I don't know exactly what's going on.
59:15
But we have to sigh up the Finnish
59:18
and Swedish people one more time.
59:20
How to prepare for the possibility of war?
59:23
That's the question addressed in this pamphlet sent
59:26
out to more than 5 million Swedes.
59:28
The booklet was written by the Swedish Civil
59:30
Contingencies Agency and provides practical tips for dealing
59:34
with crises, such as war, natural disasters or
59:37
cyber attacks.
59:38
We actually have to prepare for the worst
59:41
case scenario, a war scenario, not that we
59:46
necessarily think that there will be war, but
59:48
we really need to have that preparedness and
59:51
need to include the population in that preparedness.
59:54
The 32-page brochure gives logistical advice from
59:58
stocking up on food and water and growing
1:00:00
your own vegetables to finding reliable sources of
1:00:02
information and locating bomb shelters.
1:00:05
It also provides mental health advice on how
1:00:08
to deal with anxiety caused by the possibility
1:00:10
of war.
1:00:11
With simple ideas like talking about concerns to
1:00:13
friends and family, helping others to feel useful,
1:00:16
exercising or limiting the barrage of negative news
1:00:19
about the world.
1:00:21
The initiative has sparked intense debate in a
1:00:23
society unaccustomed to the reality of war.
1:00:26
But the Swedes are not the only ones
1:00:27
taking precautions.
1:00:29
Their Finnish neighbours, who share a 1,340
1:00:32
-kilometre-long border with Russia, have also set
1:00:34
up a website offering similar advice.
1:00:37
In 2022, after the Russian invasion began, the
1:00:40
two countries asked to join NATO, thus abandoning
1:00:43
several decades of military non-alignment.
1:00:46
So there it is, in my nutshell.
1:00:48
This is a bunch of bullcrap.
1:00:50
And don't be worried about World War III
1:00:52
starting and Biden going out with a bang.
1:00:55
This is all just typical PR to cover
1:00:58
up the audit, to cover up the debt
1:01:01
forgiveness, and to keep NATO looking very important.
1:01:05
And oh, boy, we can't.
1:01:07
No, Trump, you can't pull us out of
1:01:09
NATO.
1:01:09
That would be horrible.
1:01:10
This is public relations slash propaganda.
1:01:17
I can't argue.
1:01:18
No, it's the basic thesis.
1:01:20
You can't argue.
1:01:21
It's totally prepare for war.
1:01:25
Oh, my, my, my.
1:01:27
Well, we can take a look at the
1:01:28
three by three, which is about Ukraine shooting
1:01:31
these missiles.
1:01:32
Oh, man, I'm sorry.
1:01:33
I feel woefully unprepared.
1:01:35
I didn't even realise you had a three
1:01:38
by three.
1:01:38
Now it's time for three by three.
1:01:41
Experiment by J.C.D. Comparing stories from
1:01:45
ABC, CBS and NBC.
1:01:49
The never-ending three by three.
1:01:50
All right, Steve Jones on the ball once
1:01:52
again.
1:01:53
It's good to have him back with a
1:01:54
three by three.
1:01:55
Let's find out what's going on in US
1:01:56
propaganda of this war, this horrible turn of
1:02:00
events.
1:02:01
Start with ABC.
1:02:02
Tonight, Ukraine firing the first American-made long
1:02:06
-range missiles into Russia.
1:02:09
Targeting an ammunition store in the Bryansk border
1:02:12
region, seen in video circulating online.
1:02:15
A US official telling ABC News eight missiles
1:02:17
known as Atakoms were fired and two intercepted.
1:02:21
The Kremlin appearing to threaten possible use of
1:02:23
nuclear weapons in response.
1:02:25
But the Pentagon saying there are no signs
1:02:27
it's preparing to do so.
1:02:29
Russia already attacking Ukraine, though, day and night.
1:02:32
We joined drone hunters trying to intercept attacks.
1:02:35
Suddenly, an incoming drone.
1:02:37
You can hear it in the sky.
1:02:40
The team scours the skies and opens fire.
1:02:45
These drone hunters are out every night across
1:02:48
the country as Russia sends more and more
1:02:51
drone across the border into Ukrainian cities.
1:02:56
The drone gets away as the team works
1:02:58
through the night, defending family, country and freedom.
1:03:03
David, today marks 1,000 days of full
1:03:06
-scale war in Ukraine.
1:03:07
And despite all these talks about peace plans,
1:03:10
there's no clear end in sight.
1:03:12
They haven't.
1:03:13
So, wow, they have different numbers.
1:03:16
They've got eight drone, eight Atakoms.
1:03:19
Two were shot.
1:03:20
How?
1:03:20
I thought these Atakoms were like the big
1:03:22
deal.
1:03:23
They suck.
1:03:25
They're not doing anything.
1:03:28
One of them broke up in the sky
1:03:29
and fell down and hit someone.
1:03:31
But that seems to be happening a lot
1:03:33
with these missiles.
1:03:35
Okay, well, let's go to...
1:03:36
These are all the same report, but let's
1:03:38
go to CBS's version of the same report.
1:03:43
I love the opening.
1:03:45
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
1:03:49
-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:03:51
Which U.S. officials?
1:03:53
Who?
1:03:53
Give me a name.
1:03:54
If we're at war, if we are at
1:03:57
war...
1:03:57
By the way, if it's a U.S.
1:03:58
official, they're not anonymous.
1:04:02
Well, unless they're lying about it.
1:04:04
Or, you know, the U.S. officials spoke
1:04:06
on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized
1:04:09
to talk about it.
1:04:10
This is bullcrap.
1:04:12
If we're at...
1:04:13
We now know because Tucker Carlson and Glenn
1:04:17
Greenwald did a whole show about it.
1:04:20
We're at war now because it takes Americans
1:04:22
to operate these and we have to have
1:04:24
our U.S. satellite tracking technology.
1:04:27
But we're at war.
1:04:28
You didn't get the clip either.
1:04:30
No, I couldn't watch it.
1:04:31
I just saw that.
1:04:32
I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch
1:04:34
this.
1:04:34
I was tempted to get the part that
1:04:35
you just said.
1:04:37
You summarized faster than Greenwald ever could.
1:04:41
It's like, oh, please.
1:04:44
U.S. officials say Ukraine fired eight American
1:04:48
-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:04:50
The target was a military facility in...
1:04:52
And let's just...
1:04:53
Let's just...
1:04:53
Sorry to interrupt, but let's just determine what
1:04:55
Russia is, okay?
1:04:57
This is a border region that the Ukrainians...
1:05:01
That's that 1,000 square meters or whatever
1:05:04
that they went into.
1:05:05
It's that area.
1:05:07
It's not...
1:05:07
When they say into Russia, it's not Moscow.
1:05:12
You know, it's where the actual skirmish is
1:05:15
taking place.
1:05:17
And you notice that they say Kursk region,
1:05:19
not the Kursk region.
1:05:21
So be like, well, these missiles were shot
1:05:23
in Kursk region.
1:05:24
It's the...
1:05:24
I want to say the Kursk region.
1:05:27
Anyway, I'm not at CBS, so...
1:05:29
American-made Atakoms into Russia.
1:05:32
The target was a military facility in the
1:05:34
Bryansk region of southern Russia, according to the
1:05:37
Russian Defense Ministry.
1:05:39
U.S. officials say the Russians may have
1:05:42
shot down two of the missiles, powerful weapons
1:05:45
with a maximum range of close to 200
1:05:48
miles.
1:05:49
First of all, it's going to help our
1:05:50
troops right now at the front lines.
1:05:52
Aleksandra Ustinova is a member of Ukraine's parliament
1:05:56
who told us she lobbied the U.S.
1:05:58
government to allow Ukraine to use the Atakoms
1:06:01
deep inside Russia.
1:06:03
The U.S. only agreed to it two
1:06:05
days ago, worried it could escalate the conflict.
1:06:09
Are you angry that the U.S. didn't
1:06:11
give Ukraine permission earlier to use the Atakoms
1:06:14
deep inside Russia?
1:06:17
I'm really disappointed that every decision that the
1:06:20
U.S. government is making comes about six
1:06:24
months later than it was needed.
1:06:26
Russia accuses the U.S. of adding fuel
1:06:29
to the fire, and today Vladimir Putin approved
1:06:32
a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine, lowering the
1:06:36
threshold for a nuclear strike.
1:06:39
A U.S. official called that irresponsible rhetoric.
1:06:43
President Biden allowed the broader use of Atakoms
1:06:46
after more than 10,000 North Korean soldiers
1:06:49
were deployed to Russia, bolstering Moscow's forces.
1:06:53
Today, Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky, warned that number
1:06:58
could grow to 100,000.
1:07:06
Today marks 1,000 days since Vladimir Putin
1:07:10
launched his invasion.
1:07:11
We were here when it began, Nora, and
1:07:13
we've witnessed Ukrainians lose their homes, their limbs,
1:07:16
and their lives in a war they never
1:07:19
wanted.
1:07:21
I just want to add my own sound
1:07:23
effects from time to time.
1:07:27
All right, so that's pretty much the same
1:07:30
report.
1:07:30
Tell me that NBC starts with a missile
1:07:32
launch.
1:07:33
Tell me.
1:07:34
Yeah, I think they're given a sound effect.
1:07:38
Nat pops, baby.
1:07:39
Yeah, yeah, they had a good one.
1:07:45
Tonight, anxious hours after Ukraine fired American-made
1:07:49
long-range missiles called Atakoms at a nuclear
1:07:53
-armed Russia for the first time, according to
1:07:55
two U.S. officials.
1:07:57
It comes just days after the White House
1:07:59
approved their use outside Ukraine's borders.
1:08:02
Tonight, President Putin has lowered the bar for
1:08:05
Russia's use of nuclear weapons.
1:08:07
Under a new nuclear doctrine, Russia could deploy
1:08:11
its arsenal and be attacked by a non
1:08:13
-nuclear country allied with a nuclear state, a
1:08:16
message unmistakably directed at Ukraine and the U
1:08:20
.S. I'm Kelly O'Donnell in Rio de Janeiro
1:08:23
at the G20 Summit, where dozens of international
1:08:26
leaders have been gathered, including President Biden and
1:08:29
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who today called
1:08:32
the Ukrainian missile attack an escalation.
1:08:35
And he talked about Putin making changes to
1:08:37
how Russia could use its nuclear arsenal.
1:08:41
We are strongly in favor of doing everything
1:08:45
not to allow a nuclear war to happen.
1:08:48
As for the Atakoms, Ukraine says they will
1:08:51
help resist a Russian offensive supported by North
1:08:54
Korean troops just months before President-elect Trump
1:08:57
takes office and is expected to demand a
1:09:01
deal.
1:09:02
Ukraine today marking 1,000 days of war
1:09:05
with Russia, with talks on the horizon, but
1:09:08
no sign of compromise.
1:09:11
President Putin has made many unnerving nuclear threats.
1:09:14
Tonight, one European leader calling it rhetoric.
1:09:18
Rhetoric.
1:09:19
Oh, someone agrees.
1:09:20
Why do we have to have a British
1:09:21
guy?
1:09:22
Because this is an intelligence op.
1:09:24
My guys were British, too.
1:09:26
They're all British.
1:09:28
This thing is an op.
1:09:31
And it's been hard here, man.
1:09:34
It's been hard to calm people down because
1:09:35
they all think nuclear war is coming.
1:09:38
Where, you know, Lavrov said, He's sounding more
1:09:43
like Kissinger as he gets older.
1:09:45
He is, he is, he is.
1:09:47
This is posturing.
1:09:49
And, you know, so what?
1:09:51
So what's the big deal with North Korean
1:09:55
soldiers?
1:09:55
Who cares?
1:09:56
Do you know how many American soldiers were
1:09:58
in Ukraine?
1:09:59
Most of them are dead.
1:10:01
KIA, because I get the reports every single
1:10:04
day.
1:10:05
They all went over there and fighting for
1:10:07
freedom as mercenaries, of course.
1:10:11
There's all kinds of Americans, British, Dutch.
1:10:14
They're all over the place.
1:10:16
So what's the big deal?
1:10:18
So they got North Koreans.
1:10:19
Oh, 10,000.
1:10:20
Sure.
1:10:21
Yes, specifically.
1:10:21
The question you're asking is specifically what the
1:10:25
Russians have known to use.
1:10:26
Africans and mercenaries and all kinds.
1:10:29
So why now is North Koreans a big
1:10:34
deal when everything else seemed to be OK?
1:10:37
It's just a, it's a scare tactic.
1:10:41
It's an op of some sort.
1:10:42
Yeah, the same as this thing.
1:10:45
Just keep that noise in there all the
1:10:47
time.
1:10:47
The term that you see floating around is
1:10:50
they're trying to magaproof.
1:10:52
It's called magaproof.
1:10:53
Oh, yes.
1:10:54
Magaproof.
1:10:54
There you go.
1:10:55
Because when Trump gets in, he's going to
1:10:57
want to end this war.
1:10:58
But you want to magaproof it.
1:10:59
That means he won't be able to.
1:11:01
So they're trying to screw him over.
1:11:03
And the only way you can do that
1:11:04
is with an op.
1:11:05
But yeah.
1:11:07
Well, that brings us to Netanyahu.
1:11:09
Well, can I just stick with NATO for
1:11:11
one more second?
1:11:11
Oh, we're still there?
1:11:12
Yeah.
1:11:13
There's one more NATO thing I wanted to
1:11:14
get out of the way because this has
1:11:15
been bugging me for a couple of weeks.
1:11:18
So there's this.
1:11:21
Well, actually, Neil Oliver, who I like from
1:11:25
GB News in the UK, he summed it
1:11:29
up quite nicely.
1:11:30
This has been going around.
1:11:31
And I have some comments on this story.
1:11:35
Online publication Slay carried this headline recently from
1:11:39
the Dutch part of the lunatic asylum.
1:11:41
Dutch government official admits COVID pandemic was military
1:11:45
operation.
1:11:46
Ministry of Health obeys NATO.
1:11:49
A top Dutch government official that reads has
1:11:53
admitted that the COVID was a military operation
1:11:57
and revealed her nation was taking orders from
1:12:00
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
1:12:03
Dutch health minister Fleur Agema has revealed that
1:12:07
the military operation was led by NATO and
1:12:10
the Netherlands National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism,
1:12:15
NCTV.
1:12:16
The NCTV is a Dutch government agency that
1:12:20
serves the country's national security.
1:12:23
During a speech in the Dutch parliament, Agema
1:12:25
acknowledged that the government responded to the pandemic
1:12:29
by complying with NATO obligations.
1:12:33
Now, luckily for no agenda nation, I am
1:12:36
fluent in Dutch.
1:12:37
Not just that I speak the language I
1:12:39
grew up with it.
1:12:41
I am completely bilingual.
1:12:43
And I watched this.
1:12:44
I watched the question and answer session, which
1:12:47
was about money, about money for a future
1:12:49
pandemic.
1:12:50
At no point did Dutch health minister Fleur
1:12:53
Agema say that COVID-19 and the Corona
1:12:57
period was a NATO operation.
1:13:00
She did not say that.
1:13:01
She's new.
1:13:02
This is the new parliament that has come
1:13:03
in.
1:13:04
And she said, coming in as a newbie,
1:13:06
I was surprised to hear, she actually says,
1:13:08
I was very surprised to hear that under
1:13:11
the new preparedness doctrine, which comes from, she
1:13:18
said, I think Brussels, that there are new
1:13:21
rules that they want to implement and what
1:13:24
needs to be done under pandemic preparedness in
1:13:28
the event it is a biological attack.
1:13:30
I'm paraphrasing.
1:13:32
But she did not say NATO was controlling
1:13:35
this whole thing.
1:13:36
She just didn't say it.
1:13:38
She did not say it.
1:13:39
And you can look at the subtitles as
1:13:41
long as you want.
1:13:42
But I hear what she's saying.
1:13:44
She said, you know, there's something up that
1:13:46
this and this is all the pandemic treaty
1:13:49
business.
1:13:49
That's what's going on.
1:13:51
And they want money to prepare for a
1:13:54
pandemic, for a possible war scenario.
1:13:58
But she did not say that COVID-19
1:14:01
and the Corona period was run by NATO
1:14:04
operatives and the anti-terrorism group.
1:14:08
It's just not true.
1:14:09
So stop.
1:14:10
When I heard that guy talking, I thought
1:14:13
the guy was full of crap just from
1:14:14
the sounds of it.
1:14:16
Well, but I didn't have to do the
1:14:17
translation.
1:14:18
But this has been going around.
1:14:20
But the yeah.
1:14:21
But the other thing I think that might
1:14:23
be true is the ex-CDC guy, that
1:14:25
weird bearded looking character that keeps cropping up,
1:14:29
who claims now in a tweet or in
1:14:33
a presentation that was retweeted that the that
1:14:38
COVID-19 was actually developed in North Carolina
1:14:40
and then moved to Wuhan.
1:14:42
Oh, no.
1:14:42
Oh, no.
1:14:43
Oh, no.
1:14:43
That's since you brought it up.
1:14:45
I'll play this other clip.
1:14:46
There's now.
1:14:47
Oh, no, no.
1:14:48
Canada is you're wrong.
1:14:50
You are wrong, my friend.
1:14:51
We're approaching five years since the first known
1:14:54
COVID-19 outbreak and scientists are still trying
1:14:57
to trace the origin of the pandemic.
1:14:59
Did it come from a lab or an
1:15:01
animal market?
1:15:03
Well, a Saskatoon virologist is part of a
1:15:05
team determined to find out.
1:15:07
CTV's Alison Bamford is on this story.
1:15:10
And Alison, what does new data suggest?
1:15:14
Sandy, these researchers say it's the most critical
1:15:17
question of the pandemic.
1:15:19
How did it start?
1:15:21
Their previous research pointed to a market in
1:15:23
Wuhan as the origin of the pandemic, where
1:15:26
the coronavirus jumped from animals to humans.
1:15:29
Now, an international team of scientists is strengthening
1:15:32
its case that COVID-19 wasn't leaked from
1:15:36
a lab.
1:15:37
So we have evidence that the infection spread
1:15:39
outward in the human population from the market.
1:15:42
Now we have information that proves that those
1:15:45
animals were at the market and we know
1:15:47
that at least some of them were susceptible.
1:15:49
The most common animal found at the market
1:15:52
was the raccoon dog, known to be susceptible
1:15:55
to the virus.
1:15:56
But researchers are now testing to see what
1:15:58
other animals could have been carriers.
1:16:00
As far as we know, the animals themselves
1:16:03
were never sampled.
1:16:05
We probably won't be able to locate the
1:16:08
exact infected animal.
1:16:10
Based on the evidence we have now, these
1:16:12
researchers say it's very difficult to explain any
1:16:15
other theory of origin.
1:16:16
That includes the theory that the virus was
1:16:19
leaked from the Wuhan lab.
1:16:21
This team of scientists says that hypothesis is
1:16:24
not probable.
1:16:47
Oh, man.
1:16:49
None of this is news.
1:16:51
This is just complete propaganda.
1:16:54
And we've learned nothing.
1:16:55
We've learned nothing.
1:16:57
But we've learned how full of crap these
1:16:58
people are.
1:16:59
Well, we have.
1:16:59
We have.
1:17:00
No agenda nation has.
1:17:01
But I'm just looking at my text messages
1:17:03
and like, nope, we've learned nothing.
1:17:05
Oh, no.
1:17:06
It's all scary.
1:17:07
It's all scary.
1:17:08
So I have a few clips about the
1:17:09
machine gun drones that I wanted to talk
1:17:13
about.
1:17:14
Okay.
1:17:15
Because this, again, brings up the inability of
1:17:17
the mainstream Gaza.
1:17:18
This is in Gaza.
1:17:19
Yeah.
1:17:20
The Gaza stuff.
1:17:21
Okay.
1:17:21
But first, I want to mention that this
1:17:23
morning, it turns out that the International Criminal
1:17:25
Court has indicted Netanyahu.
1:17:28
And just as an ask Adam.
1:17:31
Yes.
1:17:32
There's this morning on France 24.
1:17:35
They're going all over every detail of this
1:17:36
thing.
1:17:37
France is going to uphold it.
1:17:39
Right.
1:17:39
They said, oh, yes, we're all in.
1:17:40
Well, no, no, no.
1:17:42
They Macron says, maybe, maybe not.
1:17:45
But then the left wing of France says,
1:17:47
yes, yes, yes.
1:17:47
We're going to arrest them if we can.
1:17:49
But there's only one country.
1:17:52
Does they ask Adam only one country in
1:17:54
the EU that definitely will arrest him on
1:17:57
the spot if they see him has to
1:17:59
be the Netherlands, because the exactly the Hague,
1:18:02
of course.
1:18:02
Of course.
1:18:03
And they're bringing their bikes to surround him.
1:18:06
Yes, of course.
1:18:09
That's of course.
1:18:11
Yeah, that's what we do over there.
1:18:13
But meanwhile, this this strange war crime of
1:18:16
these machine gunned these.
1:18:19
Now, first of all, I want to ask
1:18:22
you a question.
1:18:22
When you when you say quadcopter specific, can
1:18:26
you describe one for me?
1:18:28
A quadcopter would be a drone that has
1:18:30
four engines with propeller blades, hence quad.
1:18:37
Exactly.
1:18:37
And it keeps it in perfect balance and
1:18:39
makes it very maneuverable.
1:18:42
So we have these these supposedly drones floating
1:18:46
around Gaza shooting people with a gun is
1:18:49
a machine gun attached to it.
1:18:51
OK, but but to begin these series of
1:18:54
clips, I have to play the Gaza drones
1:18:56
net pop.
1:18:57
This was the first time.
1:18:59
And I think we're going to start hearing
1:19:00
this.
1:19:01
You never heard this before.
1:19:03
NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who have seen
1:19:06
the destruction that these drones can cause.
1:19:09
And here's Kat Lonsdorf has been reporting from
1:19:12
Tel Aviv.
1:19:12
And she takes the story from here.
1:19:14
A warning.
1:19:15
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:19:19
They have a trigger warning for the sound
1:19:21
of gunfire.
1:19:23
Wow.
1:19:23
They should just be putting that on loudspeakers
1:19:26
throughout Chicago.
1:19:28
Believe warning.
1:19:29
This city has sounds of gunfire.
1:19:31
Oh, man.
1:19:32
OK, warning.
1:19:34
And this guy's the biggest guy that is
1:19:36
NPR.
1:19:38
Yeah, this is NPR.
1:19:39
Let's go with the drones.
1:19:40
Hold on.
1:19:40
Stop.
1:19:41
That's the one thing.
1:19:42
That's the one thing that every man, woman
1:19:45
and particularly child in the United States has
1:19:48
been exposed to since the womb.
1:19:52
There's gunfire on every television show, every movie,
1:19:56
every Democrat run city.
1:20:01
There's gunfire everywhere.
1:20:02
Since when has this become a trigger for
1:20:04
people?
1:20:06
I found it.
1:20:07
Well, not to bring it up.
1:20:09
Yes, I found it screwy.
1:20:11
Video games are filled with them.
1:20:14
No, it just makes it's somebody at NPR.
1:20:18
The great operation that it is, which I
1:20:20
have a final clip here will indicate they
1:20:24
can't even do simple work.
1:20:26
But yeah, somebody had to come.
1:20:28
Oh, you know, it's going to trigger somebody
1:20:30
who may have heard gunfire in real life
1:20:33
while playing a video game.
1:20:35
Oh, I'm triggered.
1:20:37
OK, clip two.
1:20:38
I don't have a number two.
1:20:40
Is that the Duke Robotics?
1:20:43
No, no, no.
1:20:44
Duke Robotics.
1:20:44
Oh, I'm sorry.
1:20:45
I see it.
1:20:46
Number two.
1:20:46
Yes, I do see it.
1:20:47
Thirty seven year old Fatima Adama is a
1:20:50
freelance journalist from Jabalia in northern Gaza.
1:20:52
It's an area that has been besieged by
1:20:55
Israeli forces since early October.
1:20:57
Adama sent NPR voice notes from her home
1:21:00
there on October 9th.
1:21:03
Hi, how are you?
1:21:04
She starts.
1:21:06
Israeli tanks are closing in, she says.
1:21:08
And the army is nearby.
1:21:10
Suddenly she's interrupted.
1:21:14
Ah, hear that, she says.
1:21:16
That's the quadcopter.
1:21:18
It's what many in Gaza call the small
1:21:20
hovering drone with a rifle mounted underneath.
1:21:23
So if I try to go closer to
1:21:25
the door to get better service, she says,
1:21:27
the quadcopter starts shooting and I have to
1:21:30
go back inside.
1:21:31
It's very dangerous.
1:21:33
The whole town is under siege by the
1:21:36
shooting quadcopter drones, she says.
1:21:38
No one can move.
1:21:40
For months, NPR has collected accounts from more
1:21:42
than a dozen people in Gaza who say
1:21:44
they have seen these sniper drones and that
1:21:46
they've seen them used to shoot and sometimes
1:21:48
kill civilians.
1:21:51
55-year-old Adib Shaqfa says he was
1:21:54
walking with his 32-year-old son on
1:21:56
May 31st in Rafa in southern Gaza.
1:21:59
Shaqfa says it was a quiet day and
1:22:01
there was no fighting nearby when suddenly a
1:22:05
drone appeared and shot his son who was
1:22:07
walking up ahead.
1:22:08
Wow.
1:22:10
Hmm.
1:22:13
Okay.
1:22:14
Well, that's the eyewitness that you think that,
1:22:16
you know, captured one of these.
1:22:17
I didn't think that machine gun sounded very
1:22:19
hefty.
1:22:21
Well, it's good.
1:22:23
Have a recoil.
1:22:24
You can't have something that's too powerful.
1:22:26
I mean, give me something like...
1:22:27
Now add the quadcopter.
1:22:31
Now that's, that's a nat pop.
1:22:34
Yeah, well, that would be triggering if you
1:22:36
ask me.
1:22:36
That's how it should sound.
1:22:38
Okay, so let's go to clip three and
1:22:40
then we have their summary.
1:22:42
He says two men rushed in to help
1:22:43
his son and they were also shot.
1:22:47
Two older women nearby were also shot in
1:22:49
the head, he says.
1:22:50
Shaqfa says the women were killed, so was
1:22:53
his son.
1:22:54
The Israeli military told NPR it's unaware of
1:22:57
this incident and that any suggestion that it
1:22:59
intends to harm civilians is, quote, unfounded and
1:23:02
baseless.
1:23:03
NPR also asked the Israeli military repeatedly if
1:23:06
it was using the sniper drone technology in
1:23:08
Gaza.
1:23:08
It did not respond to the question.
1:23:11
Israel, frankly, like many militaries, is very cautious
1:23:14
about what kinds of information it provides about
1:23:19
its operations and tactics that it uses.
1:23:23
Seth Jones is president of the Defense and
1:23:25
Security Department at the Center for Strategic and
1:23:27
International Studies in Washington, D.C. But also
1:23:30
makes it more difficult for everyday Israelis or
1:23:33
journalists or other researchers to understand how these
1:23:38
things are being used.
1:23:39
Further complicating that understanding, until recently Israel had
1:23:43
a censorship law in place forbidding the media
1:23:45
from reporting on armed drone use by the
1:23:48
military.
1:23:49
And it's something most journalists can't witness with
1:23:51
their own eyes.
1:23:52
Israel has not allowed outside journalists independent access
1:23:55
to Gaza since the war began more than
1:23:57
a year ago.
1:23:58
But we do know that this sniper drone
1:24:00
technology exists and that the Israeli military has
1:24:04
it.
1:24:04
OK, so we know it exists and we
1:24:07
know they have they have it and we
1:24:09
know as far as they go with it.
1:24:11
So it takes like 10 minutes, 10 minutes.
1:24:14
It takes like two minutes for me to
1:24:16
find out the company making these things, Duke
1:24:19
Robotics.
1:24:21
And curiously, you might find a little bit
1:24:23
of information on their own website.
1:24:26
These things were and they're not quadcopters.
1:24:28
They have eight engines.
1:24:30
No, the octocopters, octocopters, octocopters.
1:24:35
And they have a machine gun mounted at
1:24:37
the bottom.
1:24:38
And they've been around since 2016.
1:24:40
And here's what their video has to say
1:24:45
about it.
1:24:45
What if we told you the future is
1:24:49
now?
1:24:50
Robots are replacing combat soldiers.
1:24:54
Unnecessary casualties are becoming part of the past.
1:24:59
Minimizing collateral damage and uninvolved casualties.
1:25:05
Duke Robotics presents TCAD, the future.
1:25:12
With TCAD, the future battlefield has arrived.
1:25:17
A fully robotic battalion capable of identification and
1:25:21
surgical neutralization of hostiles in the field can
1:25:26
now be deployed to places human soldiers can't
1:25:29
reach or simply shouldn't have to go.
1:25:33
TCAD is able to adjust to the right
1:25:35
place and time.
1:25:37
The TCAD robot is designed to identify, target,
1:25:41
and engage in real-life scenarios.
1:25:44
TCAD takes a full recoil of the weapon
1:25:46
discharged, compensates for its poor, and quickly readjusts
1:25:51
to stay on target and in the fight.
1:25:54
The Defense Department chose Duke as winner of
1:25:57
the 2016 Terror Combat Competition.
1:26:01
The company is in the process of implementing
1:26:04
orders from Israeli forces.
1:26:09
You're hired.
1:26:10
You're hired.
1:26:11
You're hired.
1:26:12
You're welcome to NPR's new staff.
1:26:15
Unbelievable.
1:26:16
It's right there.
1:26:18
And this was from 2016.
1:26:20
They've been selling these things.
1:26:22
And 2017, I guess, is when they started
1:26:24
selling them to Israel.
1:26:26
These guys can't cover this?
1:26:29
No.
1:26:30
No.
1:26:31
They could have shown pictures of this crazy
1:26:32
device.
1:26:33
The thing's actually got like a regular kind
1:26:36
of a machine gun that you could carry
1:26:39
in the field, you know, with a stock
1:26:40
and everything.
1:26:41
Really?
1:26:41
Hanging from it on a bunch of springs.
1:26:45
Nice.
1:26:46
And so when it fires and kind of
1:26:48
jerks the thing around a little bit, it's
1:26:50
hilarious to watch.
1:26:52
I think we should start all of our
1:26:55
podcasts with the following.
1:26:56
A warning.
1:26:57
This piece includes the sound of gunfire.
1:26:59
I think our podcast should start with that
1:27:01
always so we don't trigger anybody.
1:27:03
Well, there's a couple of other things regarding
1:27:05
Israel.
1:27:06
Good work, John.
1:27:07
Your job is secure at NPR.
1:27:10
There was a vote over a resolution in
1:27:15
the United Nations.
1:27:16
Another school turned shelter in Gaza hit by
1:27:19
a deadly Israeli strike.
1:27:21
Residents in the enclave continue to pay a
1:27:24
heavy price as Israel presses ahead with its
1:27:26
military campaign against Hamas.
1:27:28
Meanwhile, attempts to halt the fighting are still
1:27:30
proving unsuccessful.
1:27:32
A ceasefire draft resolution at the U.N.
1:27:34
Security Council has been blocked after it was
1:27:37
vetoed by the U.S. Matthew Miller explained
1:27:39
the reasoning behind the move.
1:27:41
The resolution does call for the release of
1:27:43
hostages.
1:27:44
What it doesn't do is link the release
1:27:47
of hostages to an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
1:27:50
Israel's U.N. ambassador criticized the text, describing
1:27:53
it as a resolution for appeasement of Hamas.
1:27:55
The resolution being considered by the Security Council
1:27:58
today is nothing short of a betrayal.
1:28:02
Betrayal.
1:28:02
It betrays the 101 innocent hostages.
1:28:06
Amongst the countries to voice their disappointment over
1:28:08
the U.S. veto was France, which stated
1:28:10
that the text very firmly insists on the
1:28:12
release of the hostages.
1:28:14
For the Palestinian envoy to the U.N.,
1:28:16
there is no excuse for failing to reach
1:28:18
an agreement.
1:28:19
There is no right to mass killing of
1:28:22
civilians.
1:28:23
There is no right to starve an entire
1:28:25
civilian population.
1:28:26
This is what Israel is doing in Gaza.
1:28:29
It marks the fourth time America has exercised
1:28:32
its veto power during the war in support
1:28:34
of its ally Israel.
1:28:35
So, no, and this is a new, this
1:28:39
is not the old, the female, the woman
1:28:42
ambassador.
1:28:43
There's some dude who's doing the veto.
1:28:46
Do they have a different ambassador all of
1:28:47
a sudden that I'm not aware of?
1:28:49
I don't keep up.
1:28:50
And and then the Pope, the Pope spoke
1:28:53
up about Israel.
1:28:55
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
1:28:57
study whether Israel's.
1:28:59
By the way, this is from Reuters, and
1:29:00
I have a couple of clips from Reuters
1:29:02
today.
1:29:02
I am pretty sure this is an AI
1:29:04
generated voice.
1:29:06
It's 14, it could be 14 seconds.
1:29:08
Have a listen.
1:29:09
Pope Francis has suggested the global community should
1:29:11
study whether Israel's military campaign in Gaza constitutes
1:29:15
genocide.
1:29:16
It's some of the Pope's most explicit criticism
1:29:19
yet of Israel's conduct in its yearlong war
1:29:22
against Hamas.
1:29:24
I'm pretty sure that's AI.
1:29:26
Um, I don't know what, what is the
1:29:28
Pope doing?
1:29:30
What does he have to do with this?
1:29:34
I don't wanna get all my Catholic friends
1:29:36
irked.
1:29:37
No, well, I mean.
1:29:38
But he's the anti-Pope.
1:29:40
He's Satan.
1:29:41
Oh, John at Dvorak.org, which you can't
1:29:45
spell anyway.
1:29:46
So just send it to me.
1:29:47
I'll forward it.
1:29:48
Yes, send it to Adam McCurry, very easy
1:29:51
to spell.
1:29:54
A childhood school photo of you.
1:29:56
Have you ever seen this one?
1:29:58
I don't, probably not.
1:29:59
And you're wearing a Pabst Blue Ribbon shirt?
1:30:02
No, somebody doctored that.
1:30:07
And I said, why don't you send this
1:30:09
to John?
1:30:10
Why are you sending to me?
1:30:11
And he says, well, I couldn't remember how
1:30:13
to spell his name and his spam filter
1:30:15
would probably block it anyway.
1:30:17
So you're wasting my hard drive space with
1:30:19
this?
1:30:21
Really?
1:30:21
Send it to me.
1:30:22
I'll take a look at it.
1:30:22
Yeah, I have it.
1:30:24
I kept it.
1:30:25
I want people to know that we have
1:30:27
a lot of fun show bits coming up,
1:30:30
including some big tech, some big pharma news,
1:30:34
and trans Maoist news.
1:30:37
So you may not want to go away.
1:30:39
As I thank you, the man who put
1:30:41
two C's in Octocopter and say in the
1:30:44
morning to you, the man who put those
1:30:46
C's there, John C.
1:30:48
DeVore.
1:30:52
John, good morning to you, it's Adam Crane.
1:30:54
Good morning to our ships, Seaboots and the
1:30:55
Graffini.
1:30:55
Our subs in the water and all the
1:30:56
dames and knights out there.
1:30:58
Yeah, in the morning to the trolls in